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soulrider!mp312:09
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:10
XVampireXHi12:10
XVampireX!kbfx12:10
ubotukbfx is a replacement menu for KDE with enhanced features12:10
XVampireXhuh12:10
XVampireXCan anyone help me install kbfx?12:10
XVampireXSVN12:10
nixternalheh, bad memory!!!12:10
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XVampireXplease?12:10
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TheGateKeepernixternal: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=c65377ad0afaae12d71bc370d8d08508&topic=609.from1154553701;topicseen#msg133812:11
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cpk2i dont think you need to downgrade from .4 anymore?12:13
bl3ssingdowngrade? like can I downgrade from kubuntu 6.0.6 to kubuntu 5.10?12:13
TheGateKeepercpk2: just incase :-)12:13
cpk2why would you want to bl3ssing?12:14
AgiosXVampireX: apt-get install kbfx kubuntu-artwork-kbfx12:14
bl3ssingcpk2, was just a question.12:14
TheGateKeeperbl3ssing: we are talking KDE here12:14
XVampireXAgios hmm, I hope that works12:14
Agiosshould if you have yout sources right12:15
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bl3ssingwin+M means minimize all the windows in Windows XP. is there any command like that in linux?12:15
nixternaldoes the Memtest program work at all?12:16
nixternaleverytime i run it, i get different results12:16
Agiosmemtest86+ ? Yes, it works quite well.12:17
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Hawkwindnixternal: It needs to be run for atleast 12 hours though to get accurate results12:17
nixternalahhh...so i will make a mental note then to never use it, and to just plug in my sticks to my mem tester which will spit out everything in 5 seconds ;)12:18
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ErtainHas anyone had any troubles with getting ManDVD 2.0.10?  I've had some problems.12:20
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mmorrisanybody in here?12:22
nixternalno we all left..will be back soon :)12:22
DaSkreechbl3ssing: Alt+Ctrl+D12:22
mmorrisI am havintg to open my console everytime I restart my computer.  Is there some kind of file I can create that will type in all of my commands for me12:22
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DaSkreech!Autostart12:22
ubotuI know nothing about Autostart - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu12:22
=== DaSkreech thinks that should be a factiod
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nixternalyes it should12:23
DaSkreech`Anyway I have to go home now12:23
nixternalcreate it then ;)_12:23
DaSkreechNight!!12:23
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nixternalARG!@#@12:26
ErtainI wonder why I can't get the latest version of ManDVD?12:27
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cpk2does it set kbfx to the default menu if yo install it?12:28
cpk2you*12:28
cpk2my wireless seems to keep dying12:28
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bl3ssingwho knows a good free music composing program in linux?12:29
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cpk2so anyone have any idea why my wireless card seems to die all the time? i have to continusly do ifdown ifup on it and am using ndiswrapper12:30
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creature_hi12:36
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soylosede donde es esta sala que pais?12:39
Kyral!es12:39
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.12:39
luke_how do u extract an .exe?12:39
Kyral...You don't12:39
soylosewhatttttttttttttt12:39
luke_true, damn i fail12:40
soylosewhat is this shitttt12:41
luke_?12:41
soylosei dont understand12:41
Kyralhuh?12:41
soylosewalls of jericho12:42
Kyral....12:42
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mighty-dhola12:43
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bl3ssingi have a source code. how can I compile and than, install in order to use it?12:43
mighty-dfirst check if you'got build-essential12:44
mighty-dsudo apt-get -f install build-essential12:44
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canllaithullo, anyone around who uses an iPod in Kubuntu ?12:45
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nixternalAPIC error on CPU0: 01(01)12:48
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nixternallovely!12:48
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Agiosnoapic12:50
Agiosif you can12:50
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nixternalamd xp 2000+12:50
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nixternalthis machine is so hosed now12:51
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nixternala freakin' upgrade killed it12:51
Agiosupgrades do that sometimes12:51
Agiosyou do backups?12:51
nixternal~/ is seperate and my only worry12:52
Agiosformat and clean install then12:52
cpk2anyone have any idea why i keep on losing my wireless connection? using ndiswrapper and every 5-15 minutes have to do sudo ifdown sudo ifup to bring my connection back up12:52
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nixternalheh, that sounds like a typical windows solution though ;)12:52
AgiosI've never had an upgrade that didn't hose up somethng.12:53
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nixternali have never had a problem actually on my other system12:53
plugscan someone help me out? amarok and kaffeine won't play my mp3s, they just start and end and go down the list.12:53
nixternal!restricted12:54
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:54
nixternalthere you go plugs ^^12:54
plugshmmm12:54
darthlukanhello everyone12:54
Agiosplugs: start them from a command line and see what errors pop up12:54
Agiosprobably missing codecs or plugins12:54
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darthlukanquestion: anybody good with synaptic on amd_64 dapper?12:55
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darthlukanspecifically with installing wine? I looked on the ubuntu forums and there was a very good post about it, but for some reason i get erroes12:57
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nanaki_hey crimsun, you around?01:02
darthlukanconsole output from trying to $sudo apt-get --build source wine : checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables01:02
darthlukanSee `config.log' for more details.01:02
darthlukanmake: *** [config.status]  Error 7701:02
darthlukanBuild command 'cd wine-0.9.18~winehq0~ubuntu~6.06 && dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc' failed.01:02
darthlukanE: Child process failed01:02
darthlukananyone got any ideas?01:03
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darthlukani already invoked $sudo apt-get build-deps wine01:03
Hawkwinddarthlukan: Use a pastebin instead of flooding the channel01:03
darthlukanwhat's that?01:03
Hawkwindpastebin.ca01:04
__osh__darthlukan: and you've got build-essentials installed?01:04
darthlukanyeah01:04
Hawkwind!pastebin01:04
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:04
darthlukanthanks01:04
__osh__darthlukan: looks like you've got some issues with your c compiler. what's the version of the compiler you have installed?01:05
darthlukangcc 3.4 if i remember right01:05
__osh__darthlukan: not 4.0? I've got that.01:06
darthlukanlet me check, i just installed it today ;_01:06
nanaki_well hey i guess crimsun isn't here but one of you other guys might know what to do01:06
nanaki_i submitted a bug to launchpad a while ago, a minor cosmetic thing01:07
nanaki_well i just found a fix for it inadvertently01:07
nanaki_what should i do with the bug?01:07
darthlukangcc 4.0.301:07
nanaki_i hesitate to change it to fix released because it's not like a change in the kubuntu package was made01:07
__osh__nanaki_: report how to fix it in the bugreport.01:07
nanaki_see the page here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gtk-qt-engine/+bug/5395801:07
nanaki_ya i did that01:07
nanaki_should i change the status at all?01:07
__osh__nanaki_: that's what I'd do. Then leave it. Someone who's handeling that package will decide what to do with it.01:08
nanaki_ok thanks01:08
__osh__darthlukan: can you compile anything with the gcc you've got installed?01:08
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plugshow do i let myself write to my sources.list which is owned by root?01:10
darthlukando i just copy the pastebin link to chat?01:10
__osh__darthlukan: yep01:10
darthlukanok01:10
__osh__plugs: sudo before your edit command.01:10
plugsi'll try that01:10
darthlukanhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1972801:11
darthlukani compiled vmware just fine last night01:11
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darthlukanC compiler was going fast too, but for some reason i have issues installing any version of wine that i have tried01:11
__osh__darthlukan: perhaps a dumb question, but why compile everything? Why not using the binary packages? Not that it shouldn't work, but why?01:12
jmichaelxin many cases, when i try to view embedded streaming video, i can get the audio, but where the video should be, i just have a black box that says 'no picture'. would anyone have an idea what i need to do to get this fixed?01:12
darthlukani was getting errors that there was no candidate01:12
darthlukaneven though i followed the walkthrough in the forum to the letter01:12
darthlukanotherwise i would have just apt-get'd everything, so much easier!01:13
__osh__darthlukan: sure is.01:13
darthlukannot as easy as emerge in gentoo, but easy nonetheless01:14
darthlukan;)01:14
__osh__darthlukan: emerge is easier than apt-get? how?01:14
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darthlukaneasier for me to remember the commands01:15
__osh__darthlukan: my wine from the repos is 0.9.9, which seems to be newer than what you're trying to build.01:15
darthlukanand there are a lot of builtin options for fast mirrors01:16
darthlukandid you have to do anything special to get apt-get to recognize it as a good candidate?01:16
__osh__darthlukan: not that I dont' like emerge, I've tried it, but eventually I got bored with gentoo. too much time wasted on fixing things that should have been the default.01:16
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__osh__darthlukan: what do you mean by "good candidate"?01:17
darthlukantrue true01:17
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darthlukanthe console output says that there are no good candidtates for install01:17
darthlukani'll pastebin the output01:17
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kakaltois there or is there not issues with kde3.5.4 atm?01:18
__osh__I just installed wine 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 on my machine. seems to have gone quite well.01:18
darthlukanhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1972901:19
darthlukanthere you go01:19
darthlukani was trying to install wine-0.9.1801:19
darthlukanthe newest one01:19
darthlukani think01:19
kakaltodarthlukan: what repos do you have enabled?01:19
kakalto!wine > kakalto01:19
darthlukanthe defaults01:20
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kakalto!wine > darthlukan01:20
darthlukanwhat is that?01:20
__osh__!wine > _osh_01:20
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kakaltoinstructions01:21
kakaltoheheh.01:21
darthlukanahh thanks01:21
darthlukanbe back in a minute after i read those01:21
kakaltookie dokie01:22
kakaltogood luck with it =)01:22
__osh__darthlukan: kakalto probably can help you better than me. I'm off to bed anyway.01:22
darthlukanthanks osh for trying01:22
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__osh__darthlukan: no worries. good luck.01:24
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rOObanyone have any kinda idea why anything with wine can and does lock up or restart my computer....01:27
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lmosherPhysical security isn't a concern for my laptop, but making things simple for my wife is... Is there a way to make the login screen look more like windows? I.E. just click a picture and you log in?01:27
shadedpasthelp, I'm trying to play starcraft on a network with udp but when i click udp it unable to establish a connection or whatever, it worked on ubuntu01:27
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rOObi have cedega,wine ,and crossover office and they all can crash my computer...i say it cuz sometimes it does01:28
shadedpastno clu roob01:28
rOObmy system will just suddenyl reboot...or freeze....01:29
AgiosrOOb: might want to test your ram01:29
linuxgooberceleron is i586 right?01:29
rOObdoesnt even look like it makes it to the logs01:29
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rOObAgios, i will but i doubt its the ram01:29
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jmichaelxin many cases, when i try to view embedded streaming video, i can get the audio, but where the video should be, i just have a black box that says 'no picture'. would anyone have an idea what i need to do to get this fixed?01:30
HawkwindrOOb: Definitely sounds like a hardware issue01:30
HawkwindrOOb: Simple solution, use Windows if that's the right tool for the job :)01:30
Agioslinuxgoober: I believe that is correct01:30
shadedpastany one no why starcraft doesn't work with wine?01:31
linuxgooberok thanx Agios01:31
rOObHawkwind, well i already have cedega running the games i care about....and i want to install photoshop with crossover office........01:31
Hawkwindshadedpast: Ask the guys in #WineHQ01:31
shadedpasto srrry k01:31
rOObit worked great when i was on mandriva......i used it till the day i installed kubuntu01:31
HawkwindrOOb: Still doesn't eliminate a hardware problem that might have come about since then01:32
AgiosrOOb: how's your swap space and usage?01:32
HawkwindrOOb: Though I'd ask the guys in #WineHQ or #Cedega since they are experts on that junky app01:32
rOObAgios, i dont even use half of my ram...i have 2 gigs01:33
rOOband i dont think any swap is in use01:33
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Dr_WillisI got 1.5 bg ram - rarely touch swap if ever01:34
rOObyea i saw my puter use around 900- to 1 gig...and thats very very rare01:34
AgiosDr_Willis: but are you running wine, etc? :)01:34
Dr_WillisI have.. Lets see... :P01:35
rOObwhat would be the best place to check for errors....syslog?....01:35
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HawkwindrOOb: /var/log/messages01:35
HawkwindrOOb: Or /var/log/syslog01:35
Dr_WillisInstalling wine01:35
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darthlukankakalto: i added the repos in adept and fetched the updates, but wine is still not an option01:36
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Hawkwinddarthlukan: # Bleeding edge wine packages (packages)01:37
Hawkwinddeb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main01:37
Agiosit's listed in mine, you need more sources01:37
Hawkwinddarthlukan: Add those two lines to your /etc/apt/sources.list01:37
Ash-Fox!sources01:37
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource01:37
Ash-Fox!easysource01:37
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic01:37
Dr_Willis>hic<01:37
Hawkwinddarthlukan: That sources has wine 0.9.1801:37
AgiosI thought all wine packages were bleeding edge01:38
darthlukani have those in my sources.list already01:38
Hawkwinddarthlukan: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine01:38
darthlukanok01:38
Hawkwinddarthlukan: Then that should install the latest wine version available01:38
rOObwell in syslog i see this right b4 the restart.....but my hard drive seems fine....no noises no errors nothing..... http://pastebin.ca/11594801:40
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rOObnot even sure if that is related to the restart....its like 4 minuets off....01:41
darthlukanHawkwind: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1973001:41
Agiosthat would make me want to do a backup real soon01:41
darthlukanwine repos don't work, but defaults do01:42
rOObis there a disk checking utility?.....01:42
Hawkwinddarthlukan: Notice your sources are different from mine.  You do NOT have 'main' for that source listed01:42
Hawkwinddarthlukan: They work here, I just tested it when I pasted you the info01:43
HawkwindrOOb: Is hdb a cdrom ?01:43
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rOObHawkwind, no clue....it says tray open01:43
Stardogwhen i try to add my printer, i get an errormsg that i cant do it because I do not have the rights... anyone know why?01:43
jhak88anyone: there's nothing on /usr/src... what's going on??01:43
HawkwindrOOb: Ummm you should know if it is or not, it's your system01:43
rOObHawkwind, could crossover office have mucked somthing up and got stuck in loop....making my system mess up?01:44
jhak88anyone: Anybody know where is the Ubuntu (Kubuntu 6.06 Dapper) Kernel Source is??01:44
Dr_Williswine Xtet.exe01:44
Dr_Willis:)01:44
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HawkwindrOOb: Is hdb a cdrom ?01:44
rOObHawkwind, well i have one hard drive and its sda1-1001:44
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HawkwindrOOb: This is a prime example why I don't use this junky software.  Ya'll want to get away from Windows and run Linux, yet you turn right back around and emulate Windows in Linux.  It's totally contradictary01:45
rOOband 2 other drives..one dvd rom and one dvd burner01:45
HawkwindrOOb: That's *not* what I asked you01:45
HawkwindrOOb: Is hdb a cdrom/dvd-rom or similar ?01:45
jhak88anyone: Anybody know where is the Ubuntu (Kubuntu 6.06 Dapper) Kernel Source is??01:45
Dr_Williswine and xtet.exe used up   220596 - 238948    ram.01:45
Hawkwindjhak88: No need to repeat yourself01:45
Dr_Williswhatever that diff is. :P01:45
rOObHawkwind, how can i check...... eject /dev/hdb?01:46
HawkwindrOOb: Possibly.  But you should know how your system is set up and built01:46
darthlukanHawkwind: so i need to add main before universe multiverse?01:46
HawkwindrOOb: Surely you would know what cable/chain your cdroms are on01:46
Hawkwinddarthlukan: Add the source I posted you above01:46
rOObHawkwind, i didnt keep track of that..i do however know my main hdd01:46
HawkwindrOOb: As a system admin, you *should* keep track of that though incase you need to know in a time like this01:47
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rOObHawkwind, hehe yea i have no clue what calbe its on....01:47
draikHello everybody01:47
draikDoes anyone know how to read/write to NTFS partition?01:47
draik!ntfs > me01:48
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HawkwindrOOb: Do yourself a favor, learn that info real quick.  It'll only benefit you in the long run01:48
Hawkwinddraik: Linux can't write to NTFS yet01:48
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Hawkwinddraik: It can with special apps, but even those are very questionable and not recommended at all01:49
draikHawkwind, keyword YET01:49
Agiosjhak88: package linux-source01:49
Hawkwinddraik: It'll probably never write to NTFS either01:49
jhak88where is it stored on the hard disk?01:50
jhak88Agios: I need to edit the kernel for NTFS writing01:50
Agiosnowhere until you install it, most people just install the headers01:50
draikHawkwind, I only have dual boot with winxp for my gf. I modified some files for her and wanted to save them on her partition so that she can freely access them.01:50
HawkwindLOL didn't I just mention that Linux can not write to NTFS01:50
jhak88yes it can01:51
RichJ /etc/init.d/rc: line 36: 3026 Segmentation fault            $@01:51
RichJanyone?01:51
Agiosjhak88: apt-get install linux-source01:51
Stardogwhen i try to add my printer, i get an errormsg that i cant do it because I do not have the rights... anyone know why?01:51
jmichaelxin many cases, when i try to view embedded streaming video, i can get the audio, but where the video should be, i just have a black box that says 'no picture'. would anyone have an idea what i need to do to get this fixed?01:51
draikI know, I just thought there was a way, prior to asking the channel01:51
Hawkwindjhak88: No it can't.  Not successfully without special apps, and even those are very questionable and not recommended01:51
jhak88Hawkwind: my friends that are Gentoo users do it all the time01:51
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Hawkwindjhak88: Ok.  Best of luck.  Don't come crying when we told you not to01:51
Hawkwindjhak88: It will destroy the data, guaranteed01:51
AgiosHawkwind: there was a recent update of some kind to make NTFS r/w support whole. I remember reading it a couple of weeks ago.01:52
bigbill52ashe can export from ext3 to ntfs01:52
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jhak88Hawkwind: no need for me to cry, I really dont believe you at all.  Other linux distros can do it, why cant ubuntu?01:52
AgiosI don't remember the details as I have no NTFS.01:52
HawkwindAgios: But it still doesn't work.  You still have to use special apps unfortunately01:52
bigbill52ajust a sec01:52
Hawkwindjhak88: Linux in general can't without special tools.  Read what I'm saying01:53
AgiosI can't argue that since I didn't pay all that much attention LOL01:53
HawkwindGentoo users think they own the world too.  I wouldn't believe a word they say01:53
jhak88Hawkwind: that's not true, Gentoo does it with simple write support compiled in the kernel.  So what you are saying is not true01:53
Hawkwindjhak88: That's not true.  Gentoo uses a special app, it's *not* part of the kernel01:54
jhak88yes it is, it has kernel support01:54
bigbill52aexplore2fs allows you to import files from linux to windows...from the windows side01:54
jhak88you enable support in the kernel and then you can write to it01:54
Hawkwindjhak88: Ok.  Believe ehat you want man.  Good luck01:54
bigbill52aso much for passwords protecting your files...01:54
Dr_Willisor theres that ext2/3 file system for windows :)01:54
Hawkwindjhak88: If that was the case, then everyone would be doing it01:54
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draikI'm with you Hawkwind, I just read !fuse and !mountingPartitions01:55
jhak88no worries, I'll believe the truth ;)01:55
bigbill52ait is an exe file for windows..i use it all the time01:55
Hawkwinddraik: Exactly01:55
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Hawkwinddraik: But jhak88 seems to think differently.  He'll learn the hardway01:55
AgiosIt's only windows data anyway. Good test data.01:55
bigbill52ai like to download movies in linux and then import them into windows...01:55
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draikHawkwind, you bringing the popcorn or should I?01:56
Gonzois there a way to double the size of the task bar without increasing the size of the panels next to the K menu?01:56
jhak88Hawkwind, then I guess ubuntu's kernel needs a few tweaks ;)01:56
Hawkwinddraik: I won't even waste good popcorn01:56
draikLOL01:56
Hawkwindjhak88: The kernel period, not just Ubuntu d00d.  Get a clue01:56
CVirus-Cilantrohow can i update the KDE menu ?01:56
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darthlukanHawkwind: i just tried it with your sources, i can browse to the site and search it and everything, but apt-get can't connect to it01:56
bigbill52akappfinder, i believe01:56
darthlukanHawkwind:here is the pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1973101:56
jhak88Hawkwind, ever used gentoo-sources?  rather than vanilla?  try it, maybe you'll get a decent kernel then ;)01:56
Hawkwinddarthlukan: Strange.  Maybe it's a DNS issue on your end or something01:57
darthlukanHawkwind: maybe01:57
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HawkwindLOL @ try Gentoo.  I have a hobby.  I don't need one on my computer too01:57
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darthlukanHawkwind: but apt finds all of the other sources/mirrors01:57
Hawkwinddarthlukan: Ahhh, you're using 64Bit ?01:58
darthlukanyeah01:58
HawkwindThere probably isn't a new wine for that yet01:58
darthlukanwinehq says that i shouldn't have a problem with the new release01:58
Agioshttp://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=23836054&forum_id=269701:58
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Agiosthere's the URL for the NTFS stuff I saw a couple of weeks ago01:59
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PupenoAny idea how to do a search and replace in all the files in a directory ?01:59
bigbill52ahttp://www.chrysocome.net/explore2fs01:59
HawkwindPupeno: You'd want to use find01:59
jollyrogerCan someone tell me which repositories to use and whats the difference?02:00
Dr_Willis!easysource02:00
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic02:00
PupenoHawkwind: I tried find . -exec sed -v 's/a/b/g' {} > {} ";" but it didn't work.02:00
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Dr_Willisthey containe differnet packjages - normally due to licening issues.02:00
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HawkwindPupeno: I don't know bash well enough, have you asked in #Bash maybe ?02:00
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PupenoHawkwind: not yet.02:01
PupenoHawkwind: and I am not really using bash.02:01
HawkwindPupeno: Try, but find uses bash to do what you're wanting which is why I suggested that02:01
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PupenoHawkwind: the find part works... the sed part seems to be the problem.02:01
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jmichaelxgrrrrr02:04
Stardogwhen i try to add my printer, i get an errormsg that i cant do it because I do not have the rights... anyone know why?02:04
draikHawkwind, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1973202:04
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Dr_WillisStardog,  you using the CUPS web itterface?02:05
Dr_WillisStardog,  or the kde interface/tool?02:06
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StardogDr_Willis: the kde interface/tool02:10
Dr_WillisStardog,  i never can get aprinter working with that  :P i always use the gnome tool. It just seems towork better.02:11
Dr_Willisor the cups web interface - after i reenable it.02:11
rOObwelp there is no info on my problem so shit............i cant use photoshop or a few games..... real pain in the ass i realy want photoshop insalled.........02:11
Dr_WillisrOOb,  what problem?02:11
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rOObsomethings with wine causes my computer to compleatly freeze...or suddenly reboot02:12
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AgiosHawkwind: he;s going to hose things up compiling the kernel anyway because it's a good bit different for k/ubuntu than for gentoo.02:12
jmichaelxgrrrrr02:12
jmichaelxoops02:13
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jmichaelxin many cases, when i try to view embedded streaming video, i can get the audio, but where the video should be, i just have a black box that says 'no picture'. would anyone have an idea what i need to do to get this fixed?\\\\\\\\\\\\02:13
rOObwell im trying photoshop in cedega atm..and its gotten further then it did b402:13
StardogDr_Willis: And how do i do that?02:14
AgiosI think I would dual boot weeners before going through all that hassle.02:14
wolfmanzjmichaelx have you installed all the codecs that you can get fro easy ubuntu?02:14
Dr_Willishttp://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2117/     for the cups renabling.. or install  /run  gnome-cups-manager02:14
jmichaelxwolfmanz: i installed everything from automatix and ap-get that i could find02:15
wolfmanzdo you have a link i can look at and see if i can see the video?02:15
Dr_Willisnormally ya just install a totem-firefox  package or whatever. tha tsets a specific video program to be the embeded player02:15
jmichaelxwolfmanz: i have not tried easyubuntu,,,,,, i two other kubuntu PCs, and they have no issues with streaming video02:16
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jmichaelxwolfmanz: i cannot view most of the videos from yahoo, or any videos from CNN, for example02:16
kbrookshttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=133996702:16
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Dr_Willisi found eazyubuntu tobe lacking.. and automatix to be  even more so. :P02:17
kbrooksbe more specific Dr_Willis02:17
kbrooks:-)02:17
kbrooksDr_Willis: how is EU lacking?02:17
Dr_Williskbrooks,  lets just say that neither worked very well.02:17
jmichaelxautomatix has worked well for me..... the only issue i have is getting streaming video to work on this laptop02:18
kbrooksDr_Willis: im a developer. please be more specific!02:18
Dr_WillisEU  had things to install java and the ati - that dident work. :) for one..02:18
kbrooksDr_Willis: cant you be more specific? we can fix this02:18
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wolfmanzya i just tried CNN and they use windows media player witch i dont have lol02:19
Dr_Williskbrooks,  i clicked java and ati, and it ran a bit, and dident install either.. so  i installed them by hand. :P i dident take notes.02:19
Dr_Willisit did download them..02:19
Dr_WillisI think with the java  thers Somthing that needs tobe installed to show its EULA.02:19
Dr_Willisand if thats not installed - it dont show it.. so it dont install.02:19
jmichaelxwolfmanz: cnn videos work fine on my other PCS which run kubuntu and mepis\02:19
kbrooksDr_Willis: libqt3-mt, i think.02:19
Dr_Williskbrooks,  yea.  some sort of dialog thing i recall.02:20
wolfmanzjmichaelx: ya i'm not sure how you would solve this problem02:20
kbrooksDr_Willis: no wait. ill look into it02:20
Dr_Willisi had the same issue when installing java from syaptic and the shell.02:20
kbrooksDr_Willis: did dpkg mention anything about perl?02:21
StardogDr_Willis: that cupslink was for configuring printers right?02:21
Dr_WillisStardog,  yea - cups web interfaceis crippled sadly.. takes about 3 commands to reenable it so it can be used.02:21
jmichaelx!easyubuntu02:21
ubotueasyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.02:21
Dr_Williskbrooks,  dident notice.02:21
Dr_Williskbrooks,  this was about 2 weeks ago i last messed with it.02:22
kbrooksDr_Willis: dang :-)02:22
kbrooksDr_Willis: atm im running kubuntu, so ill look into it for you02:22
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StardogDr_Willis: kk... thx... Ill try that02:22
Dr_WillisThats it! easy ubuntu needs to  have a reenable cups option. :P02:22
Dr_Willisheh.02:22
kbrooksDr_Willis: no :|02:22
kbrooksDr_Willis: thats not important02:23
Dr_WillisIt is to me..02:23
Dr_Willisits also about a 4 line bash script02:23
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Dr_Willis"This program is pupppyware - if you use it you must donate $$ to the local animal shelter"02:24
Dr_Willis:P02:24
rOObcrap...photoshop insatlls fine with cedega but it doesnt run :(02:24
rikiohsomething very weird is happening02:24
draikI have a 7 year-old nephew. Would (anybody) recommend Edubuntu or straight on Kubuntu?02:24
Dr_WillisIm not even sure whats in Edubuntu02:24
Dr_Willisother then some funky themes. :)02:24
draikHe was good with a PC when his grandparents were around (they moved out of state)02:24
wolfmanzjmichaelx: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Yahoo_launch02:24
rikiohsomething very weird is happening at my home my cell phone number is showing up on the caller id when the home telephone rings and when i answer its the voice of samuel L. jackson in a recording... it also called my mom's cellphone and my dads cell phone02:25
draik!edubuntu02:25
ubotuEdubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org02:25
rikiohbut its showing up as if my cell phone was the one calling02:25
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lmosherWhen I'm using Xgl and I hibernate my laptop, when I turn it back on I get graphical glitces above/below the bottom/top gnome panels. Any ideas why or how to fix it?02:26
Dr_WillisI think xgl is one of thost 'work in progress things' :)02:26
lmosheryeah yeah :P02:26
Dr_Willisactually  Hibernate seems to be a Work in progress also.02:26
Dr_Willis:P02:26
draikI used XGL for a bit02:26
draikwasn't too thrilled02:26
lmosherreally? it's really increased my productivity at work02:26
Dr_WillisI tested out a live cd with it..02:26
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draikespecially when it crapped out my 1st install of Kubuntu02:27
Dr_Willisi dont see how it will increase anything other then my Nausa Level.02:27
Dr_Willis:)02:27
lmosherlol the expose mode and transparency is why I use it02:27
draiklmosher, it's all preference I suppose02:27
lmosherI don't care about wiggling windows :P02:27
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draikI don't care about wiggling and much less about windows02:27
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wolfmanzjmichaelx: let me know if that works for you02:28
Dr_Willis:P02:28
lmosherbut I like the expose mode and various other things that allow me to keep track of my windows. I tend to have a lot open and i tmakes it easier02:28
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Dr_WillisI tend to just use multi dekstops and  never seem tolose any. :P02:28
jmichaelxwolfmanz: thank you, i will try that02:29
the-ermanyone here know where i can get php-mbstring ?02:29
lmosherwell yeah I manage to fill all 402:29
the-ermI've googled and ... ya lots of unrelated pages.02:29
lmosherand I don't think I could deal with more than 4...02:29
CVirus-Cilantrohow can i update the KDE menu ?02:29
lmosherI tried 8 once and I kept getting lost.. would spend half my time trying to remember which ap is where02:29
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lmoshernow i hit F10 and they all fly in on one screen and I click the one I want :P02:29
lmosheranyway, as draik said it's all in preference.02:30
kbrooks_lol02:30
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Dr_WillisMy F10 is used to 'quit mc' and it better stay that way!! :)02:31
draikMy F10 does nothing for me02:31
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lmoshereww mc :P02:31
Dr_Willisamazing how i can use mc in a terminal, and notneed 4+ windows open to drag/drop things02:31
Dr_Willismc pwns you! :P02:31
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draikI wish that I could use all the media buttons on my keyboard02:32
lmosherI just use mv and cp02:32
lmoshersometimes rm, but I'm a bit of a packrat02:32
Dr_Willislast i checked the printed man pages for mc was like .. a lot.. :)02:32
lmosherlol yeah it's kinda crazy02:32
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draikIs there a way of getting Media buttons to work in Kubuntu?02:33
Dr_Willis2227  lines.02:33
Dr_Willis:)02:33
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lmosherdraik, Normally (in doze) you install a special driver for it... so I would grab a keygrabber and hit those buttons and see if you get lucky...02:34
draikkeygrabber?02:34
lmoshera program tat tells you what button you've just pushed02:34
lmosherI had one (this was in windows though) when my keyboard kept breaking and I wanted to check it02:35
lmosherI got lucky, though, in linux my "volume up" button would trigger a new console tab in Konsole :P02:35
draikI have the Logitech Elite Keyboard02:35
lmosher(passed ctrl+n for some reason)02:35
draikwell, my side scroll wheel works as up/down in my messages02:36
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draikBut I listen to my music on this desktop all the time02:36
lmosherdraik, behold the power of the google: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=12533302:37
draikand I listen to it alot when I'm working on my car.02:37
draikGoogle never amazes me02:37
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lmosherI'm ratting you out once they take over the planet02:38
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mmorrissometimes there are people in these rooms who just come in b/c they want to help people learn kubuntu.... are there any people in here like that now?02:38
mmorrisb/c I need help... lol02:38
draikSWEETNESS!!!! Thanks lmosher02:38
tristanmikemmorris: I'd say most of us are like that02:38
lmoshermmorris, you don't have to ask to ask a question :)02:38
mmorrislol02:39
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mmorriswell, i dont really have a specific question... I just want to learn02:39
lmosherdraik, I take it the link helped?02:39
tristanmikemmorris: than you should just hang out, you'll learn tons02:39
lmoshermmorris, Well this isn't exactly a school... the best way to learn is to do. Kubuntu has a liveCD if you don't have it installed already02:39
lmosherbut yeah as tristan said, just reading things is helpful02:40
mmorrismy first question is how do I change my font color... and yes it is installed.02:40
nnn0read the forums too02:40
tristanmikeand the wiki02:40
mmorrisI will tell you what I am really interestd in ... and that is xgl or xlg or whatever it is02:40
nnn0:)02:40
tristanmikemmorris: it's great :D02:40
kbrooks_xgl02:40
nnn0except it's like prealpha or something02:41
mmorriscan any of you... excuse me... will any of you take the time that it takes to help me get this installed?02:41
nnn0;)02:41
lmoshermmorris, I'm using it now. I loves me. This has all the info you need: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl02:41
lmoshermmorris, are you ATI or Nvidia?02:41
draiklmosher, yup. I will get right on it now02:41
mmorrisATI (I think) I really dont know02:41
mmorrisI'm not very versed in all this stuff...02:42
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mmorrisit really takes patience to help me do anything... lol02:42
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mmorrisThe first time I ever even turned on a computer was 2 1/2 years ago02:42
tristanmikemmorris: follow the instructions to the letter and you should be ok02:42
mmorrisokay02:42
mmorrisif I have any questions, will you be hyere?02:42
mmorrishere?02:43
lmoshermmorris, no worries. open up a console.. type "lspci | grep VGA"02:43
tristanmikei installed it on a lappy with ATI and it works flawlessly, well, as flawless as "alpha" software can be :P02:43
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mmorristype in what?02:43
draikwhat is lspci?02:43
mmorrisI must be reading that wrong b/c it didn't do anything02:43
tristanmikelist pci, I'm guessing02:43
lmosherdraik, lists the PCI scan02:43
draikAnd what is grep, I've been seeing that all day02:43
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lmoshergrap searches a text output string and reterns only the lines that have your query02:44
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Admiral_Chicagohow to i enable the dapper-updates repo02:44
Admiral_ChicagoI have an edited sources.list02:44
lmoshermmorris, you know how to open a console?02:44
Admiral_Chicagousing easysource though02:44
draikthank you lmosher02:44
lmosherAdmiral_Chicago, There's a very good sources.list posted on http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper02:45
mmorrisyea... I just copied and pasted02:45
lmoshermmorris, without quotes, and it said noting?02:45
Admiral_Chicagolmosher, thanks02:45
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mmorrisno, it said something now02:45
mmorrisafter I c and pd02:45
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lmosherwhat did it say?02:45
soulriderhey averyone02:45
mmorris0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)02:45
jollyrogersomeone who added graphical login for the rootaccount?02:45
soulrideri need yrgent help recovering my grub02:45
lmosherah, ok you have an Intel graphics card (that means it's built in to your motherboard)02:46
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mmorrisso am I okay to try the install02:46
lmoshermmorris, You may find that Xgl runs a little slow, but you never know... I run it very well with a laptop with a very old ATI card in it and I'm doing OK02:46
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mmorrisokay, here goes02:47
lmoshermmorris, OK so go through the guide (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl) step-by-step02:47
soulrideruhm, does anyone here know how to edit or make a new grub?02:47
mossasomeone got an aspire 502*?02:47
soulrideri have a widnows and a kubuntu partition02:47
lmoshermmorris, every now and then it will say "for Nvidia, do this..." or "for ATI" do this... just do the stuff for "other" or "intel"02:47
tristanmikesoulrider: you can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst02:47
soulriderbut i ahd to reinstall wina dnt he grub is gone, and ic ant boot into kubuntu now02:47
mmorrisokay, thanks Imosher02:47
soulridertristanmike: i think it got deleted or something02:47
lmoshersoulrider, you can't boot into linux at all?02:47
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soulriderwhen i restart it gets into windows directly02:47
soulridernope02:48
lmoshersoulrider, You'll need to use a liveCD, mount yoru boot partition and manually edit grub.conf02:48
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soulriderim in live02:48
soulriderhow do i mount my boot partition ?02:48
lmoshersoulrider, DO you know which partition is yoru boot?02:48
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mossai want to know if its safe to run the atidriver.. The vesadriver is the only one working so far..02:48
lmoshermossa, what card do you have? I have a 7500 and I use the 'radeon' driver. I have a 9800pro and I use flgrx02:49
lmosherfglrx, rather02:49
soulridererrrr... no :P02:49
tristanmikesoulrider: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows02:49
soulrideroh thanks!02:49
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lmosherwow there's a guide for everything :P02:50
soulriderindeed02:50
soulriderits creepy lol02:50
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lmosherheh well you still need to know which partition your Ubuntu disk is on02:50
soulriderdha4? :-/02:50
soulrideror 302:50
soulrideror 502:51
lmosherhehe02:51
soulriderdunno :P02:51
lmosheruse fdisk -l02:51
soulriderno output lol02:51
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soulrideroh wait02:51
draikI never thought about doing that for recovering the GRUB. I just back up my main files from a fresh install and recover from there02:51
soulrideri wa sputting l02:51
soulrideryes... L02:51
Admiral_Chicagosudo fdisk -ls02:51
lmoshersoulrider, do "sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda"02:51
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lmosherwell hda = primary master02:52
lmosherdepends on which drive it is.. hdb = primary slave and so on02:52
sriramnot essentially02:52
lmosheroh has that changed on me? :/02:52
soulriderits the master02:52
soulriderbut the first partition si win02:52
soulriderthen linux02:52
soulriderDisk /dev/hda doesn't contain a valid partition table02:52
lmosherhurm :P02:53
lmosherkeep trying higher lettesr /dev/hdb, hdc.. and so on02:53
soulriderhow do i know where is my ubuntu root install ?02:54
soulriderwith B i get somthing02:54
lmosheruntil you get something like "/dev/hda1   *           1        4676    37559938+  83  Linux"02:54
soulrider Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System02:54
soulrider/dev/hdb1   *           1        3761    30210201    7  HPFS/NTFS02:54
soulrider/dev/hdb2            3762       14593    87008040    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)02:54
soulrider/dev/hdb5            3762       14593    87008008+   7  HPFS/NTFS02:54
lmosherok no linux partitinos on that one02:54
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soulriderhdc i get nothing02:54
lmosherkeep going until you see one that has a "Linux" partition like the one I pasted02:54
soulrideri went up to h02:55
lmoshernothing?02:55
tristanmikesoulrider: do you have sata drives ?02:55
Agioskinda sounds like the MBR of hda is corrupted02:55
soulriderwith a i get02:55
soulriderNote: sector size is 2048 (not 512)02:55
soulriderDisk /dev/hda: 730 MB, 730740736 bytes02:55
soulrider255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 22 cylinders02:55
soulriderUnits = cylinders of 16065 * 2048 = 32901120 bytes02:55
soulriderDisk /dev/hda doesn't contain a valid partition table02:55
soulridererr02:55
lmoshertristanmike, oh good call :)02:55
soulrideri think its SCSI or somehting like that02:55
soulriderbut i got 2 drives02:55
soulrideri think one is SCSI (the oen that was linux adn win) and the other one is SATA but that one just has files02:56
lmosherhrm how are SATA disks labled?02:56
Agiostry /dev/sda and sdb02:56
tristanmikesda02:56
lmoshersoul try /dev/sda02:56
soulrider/dev/sda1   *           1        2550    20482843+   7  HPFS/NTFS02:56
soulrider/dev/sda2            2551        6663    33037672+   f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)02:56
soulrider/dev/sda5            2551        6466    31455238+  83  Linux02:56
soulrider/dev/sda6            6467        6663     1582371   82  Linux swap / Solaris02:56
lmoshersorry I forgot were in the SATA day-and-age now02:56
soulrider=D02:56
tristanmikethere it is02:56
lmosherok there you go it's /dev/sda502:56
soulriderwoot02:57
tristanmikelmosher: I'm still in the ide age :P02:57
soulriderthanks a lot for the help02:57
lmoshertristanmike, hehe same here :P02:57
lmoshermy /dev/sda is my usb disk :P02:57
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lmosherit's funny, actually fdisk now defaults to sda (I just tried it) and it really thinks my usb disk is messed up..02:58
lmoshersays it has 4 partitions, none of them start or end on cylinder boundaries and the partition table is not in order02:59
lmosherfdisk thinks my thumdrive is f'd up02:59
lmosheranyway, I gotta run. later all02:59
draikWhen my first install of Kubuntu was messed up, I had to 'fdisk /mbr' and reinstall everything. Now I know what and how to back up what I need.02:59
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AgiosI keep a backup copy of my MBR03:00
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IreclanI think I just got fucked over by Kubuntu.03:01
tristanmike!language03:01
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:01
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mmorrisImosher:  it said it was unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/).  is another person using it?  what do I need to do?03:01
IreclanWhat happens after step 6?03:01
tristanmikemmorris: close synaptic03:01
IreclanOf the install?03:01
mmorrisIs it open?  I dont even know what it is03:01
tristanmikemmorris: or update manager03:02
mmorriswhat do I need to do?03:02
tristanmikemmorris: you have either Synaptic Package Manager or Update Manager open while trying to use apt in the command line and since they are one in the same, it wont work03:02
tristanmikeor in my experience anyway03:03
IreclanWhat happens after step 6 of the install process?03:03
tristanmikemmorris: or Adept03:03
mmorrisoh, I need to close adept?03:03
tristanmikeyes03:03
tristanmikesorry03:03
IreclanI really need to know.03:03
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tristanmikeI'm used to Ubuntu which uses Synaptic by default and not Kubuntu which uses Adept, but same thing, they are graphical front-ends to "apt"03:03
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tristanmikeIreclan: step 6 of what install process ? Kubuntu ?03:04
AgiosIreclan: I don't remember what step 6 is or what comes after.03:04
IreclanYes.03:04
tristanmikewhat is step 6 ?03:04
AgiosIreclan: If you have problems try using the alternate cd03:04
mmorrisDo I "install these packages without verification'?03:04
tristanmikeyes03:04
mmorrisgreat03:04
mmorrisyou guys are awesome03:05
supernixanyone know the best way to deal with spam on kmail03:05
supernix?03:05
IreclanThe alternate CD is not an option.03:05
tristanmikethat just means that they are unoffical packages, but this is a trusted site, so it's ok03:05
tristanmikemmorris: ^^03:05
mmorristhanks tristanmike03:05
mmorrishow can I change my color in here?03:05
IreclanSo, anyone know?03:05
AgiosIreclan: lot of people have install issues with the live CD. It may not be an option either :)03:05
tristanmikemmorris: what do you mean ?03:06
mmorrisyall are red and purple and green03:06
mmorrisI'm just plain old black03:06
IreclanIf a lot of people have issues with the live CD, why was it used?03:06
tristanmikemmorris: using Konversation ?03:06
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mmorrislol03:06
mmorrismaybe I'm a different color on yalls screen too huh?03:07
mmorristhe font that is03:07
tristanmikemmorris: depending on the client03:07
mmorrisokay03:07
mmorrisas long as you can see me easily, that is all that matters... I don't want to get missed03:07
tristanmikemmorris: everyone is in black to me unless someone says my nick, then their nick is orange03:07
mmorrisat a critical moment03:07
AgiosIreclan: I don't make the decisions or do the testing. I'm just telling how it is. <shrug>03:07
mmorrismy nick03:07
IreclanBecause I gave up free space on my Windows partition for an OS that has yet to materialize.03:08
mmorrislol03:08
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tristanmikemmorris: if you say "tristanmike, blah" then your nick will be in orange to me03:08
mmorrisoh, ok... that's why your colors are different...03:08
IreclanAnd Windows has no graphical partition manager. So I can't get the free space back.03:08
tristanmikeIreclan: I had no problem with the live cd03:08
mmorristristanmike: what color is this?03:09
SilentAnyone: How do I get my kbfx working?03:09
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tristanmikemmorris: just your nick is orange, and the text is black03:09
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soulridererr03:09
soulriderit didnt work :(03:09
mmorrisall of your text is orange... strange03:09
IreclanThen  what is supposed to happen after step 6 of the installation?03:09
tristanmikemmorris: I'm using xchat03:09
mmorrisoh, okay03:09
tristanmikeIreclan: what is step 6 >03:09
tristanmikeI can't remember, it was back at the first of june03:10
AgiosMy best guess is step 7.03:10
tristanmikeLOL03:10
Silentanyone: I got my theme for kbfx, but how do I install this??03:10
IreclanYes, well, step 6 is when it appears to be installing the system.03:10
AgiosSilent: check the kbfx web site03:10
SilentURL?? plz03:11
IreclanI say "appears to be" because it didn't exactly give a whole lot of specifics.03:11
Agiostry something tricky like http://www.kbfx.org03:11
IreclanAnyone?03:12
soulridersorry but what was hte command to see in whichc partitoon linux was installed?03:12
Agioslooks like they have a forum and a howto section03:12
soulriderfdisk .......03:12
Agiosfdisk -l /dev/sda03:12
Agiosfor you03:12
tristanmikeIreclan: so what happened ? did it die on you ?03:12
soulriderthanks03:13
IreclanAfter step 6......nothing. It went back to the desktop.03:13
IreclanAnd sat there.03:13
Agioshttp://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2006/06/six-steps-to-installing-ubuntu-dapper.html03:13
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Agiosaccording to that, after step 6 you are done03:13
Agiostry rebooting03:14
IreclanI did. I got Windows.03:14
Agiosthe boot loader didn't get installed then03:14
IreclanGreat. Why?03:15
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IreclanIt was hell just to get THAT far..............03:15
AgiosAs I said, use the alternate CD to install.03:15
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IreclanTHe alternate CD is not an option. They don't include it in ShipIt.03:16
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Agiosjust download it03:16
Admiral_Chicagodoes anyone know a good calender program03:16
Agiosftp03:16
Admiral_Chicagocalendar*03:16
Agioshttp03:16
IreclanDial-Up.03:16
soulrideruhm how do i know what my harddisk + boot partition numbers are03:17
Agiosvisit a friend who has broad band and a cd burner then03:17
soulriderim readint at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?highlight=%28windows%29%7C%28after%29%7C%28recovering%29#head-5dbdd6b5302831ed4335bd0b7387ffcad254385703:17
IreclanSo, I'm screwed. Is that what you are saying?03:17
Admiral_ChicagoAgios, thats what friends are for03:17
mmorristristanmike: how do I install the xgl packages?03:17
Admiral_Chicago!xgl03:17
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems03:17
Agioshas anyone got xgl to work?03:18
mmorrisI am there, but I dont guess I understand this part03:18
tristanmikemmorris: what are you having trouble with, it should be all there in the link I gave you, which is also just above here03:18
mmorrisI am working on it Agios03:18
tristanmikeAgios: I do03:18
Agiosok, I have seen lot's of people try and fail. Just wondering :)03:19
mmorristristanmike: I am trying to look ahead, and I am not sure I know how to install the xgl packages.03:19
soulriderhas anyone tried the "Super Grub Disk"03:19
IreclanGreat. Ubuntu screws me over again. Thanks, Ubuntu. How can I get in contact with the people who produce this?03:19
tristanmikesoulrider: no, but it looks interesting ;)03:19
mmorriswhere are the xgl packages tristanmike?03:19
soulrideric ant friggin restore the damn grub03:19
AgiosIreclan: Contact Us on their web page.03:19
soulriderand the site doesnt explain too well03:19
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tristanmikemmorris: have you installed your video card drivers ?03:20
mmorrisI am installing something now03:20
IreclanOkey dokey.............I will............Their software just cost me part of my hard disk...........03:20
Agiossoulrider: boot a rescue cd, mount the partition, chroot, run grub03:20
Agiosworst case scenario03:20
tristanmikeIreclan: why is the Alternative CD a no go for you ?03:20
mmorristristanmike: I dont think I did that03:20
soulriderAgios: im using he live CD rigth now, but i dont know what tod do next03:21
mmorrishow could I have missed that03:21
supernixHi does anyone know a good way to deal with spam using kmail ?03:21
IreclanI have dial-up.03:21
Admiral_Chicagosoulrider, you're tying to reinstall grub?03:21
soulrideryes03:21
soulrideri had ubuntu adn widnwos03:21
Agiossoulrider: your grub config in /boot/grub is fine. You just need to chroot and run the grub install to rewrite the MBR03:21
soulriderbut i ah to einstall widnwos because it got screwed up03:21
MasterEvil`Laptohey guys03:21
soulriderand now i dont have the grubt o sleect iwn or linux03:21
MasterEvil`Laptohardware Q.. i have an ati radeon 9800 Pro. do i NEED a fan plugged into the board for it to run?03:22
rikiohi just got snakes on a plane'd like 500 times03:22
MasterEvil`Laptoor will it error03:22
MasterEvil`Laptobecause no fan is plugged in03:22
tristanmikemmorris: i forget, are you ati or nvidia ?03:22
mmorrisintel03:22
MasterEvil`Laptothe plug has no sensor wire.. just + and -03:22
Admiral_Chicagorikioh, like called to see it?03:22
tristanmikemmorris: for video ?03:22
mmorrisI dont know03:22
rikiohyeh that prank call admiral03:22
Admiral_Chicagoits not a prank call, its an auto gen03:23
mmorrisyou told me to type some stuff in in the terminal, and then I pasted it and you said intel03:23
Admiral_Chicagothats acually Samuel L jackson03:23
tristanmikemmorris: what did "lspci | grep VGA" give you ?03:23
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rikiohit did my house phone and both of my parents called and said it called them to03:23
soulriderAgios: i really dont know how to do that :P03:23
rikiohno theres a prank for it now it has to be because what happend was illegal.... it made it look like my cellphone was the one doing the call03:24
rikiohthe caller id showed up as my cell phone03:24
mmorris0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)03:24
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rikiohwhen my home phone rang it showed as if my cell phone was calling my home phone03:24
plugsYay! i got mp3 playback working!03:24
mmorristristanmike: did you see?03:24
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tristanmikemmorris: well, I'm not quite sure how to install the intel driver....you might want to join in #ubuntu-xgl03:25
mmorrisokay03:25
mmorrisrats03:25
Admiral_Chicagorikioh, man if I got a call and it was Samuel L jackson's voice, I wouldn't mind03:25
IreclanWell, I suppose Kubuntu is better than Ubuntu.....Ubuntu wouldn't even get past step 2 of the install process.03:25
mmorriswell, stick around, you may be able to help after all03:25
mmorriswho knows03:25
tristanmikemmorris: sorry I couldn't be of more help here, I'm just getting the hang of ATI cards, and I have nVidia myself03:25
rikiohyeh i just didnt know what was going on03:25
mmorrisyou have been a big help just by being there when I have a quesitons03:25
rikiohcuz i was holding my cell phone at the time like wtf03:26
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IreclanIt almost seems like a step BACKWARDS, you know? Hoary Hedgehog at least INSTALLED properly.03:26
tristanmikeIreclan: are you using the Kubuntu live cd or the Ubuntu live cd ?03:27
IreclanI ordered both.03:27
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tristanmikeand neither work ?03:27
IreclanThat's right.03:27
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intelikey# Unknown partition table signaturegrub-install /dev/hda03:28
intelikeyThe file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.03:28
tristanmikeIreclan: so when you get to the "Installing Software" section, how far does it get, 0%, 10% ?03:28
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upstairshello can anybody help a newbie to get either a matrox g400 dualhead or a nvidia mx400  geforce2 dual head set up in kubuntu? Please03:28
upstairsor a link to where a newbie can understand03:29
intelikey!dualhead03:29
ubotuI know nothing about dualhead - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu03:29
IreclanNo, I'm saying Ubuntu doesn't get to the ACTUAL INSTALLATION PROCESS AT ALL.03:30
tristanmikeIreclan: so you don't even get to step 603:30
supernixhelp does anyone know a good program to use to help filter out spam for kmail03:30
upstairsok thanks03:30
supernix?03:30
IreclanKubuntu does, but screws up on the actual installation process.03:30
Dark_Oppressorapparently nethack isnt in the repos apt-get is searching, so i assume that means it isnt searching any repos with a lot of games, so how would i go about making it do that?03:31
intelikeyupstairs i thught there was an info node on that.    there are some good docs   google may know.03:31
tristanmikeIreclan: where does it screw up at ? You might also want to try in #ubuntu, there are 775+ users there03:31
IreclanI tried Ubuntu. They said try Kubuntu.03:32
Agiossoulrider: do you know how to mount a partition?03:32
IreclanThey said Ubuntu would not work.03:32
tristanmikeIreclan: why ?03:32
CVirusWhat language is the systemsettings tool built with ?03:32
tristanmikeIreclan: what reason did they give that it just wouldn't work ?03:32
IreclanX-Server can't handle my graphics adapter in safe mode.03:33
IreclanIt crashes.03:33
soulridernot really03:33
soulriderim completelly lost here03:33
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soulrideri do not know what to do03:33
IreclanIn regular install, it hangs aroung step 2.03:33
Agiossoulrider: /join #agios03:33
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IreclanNo reason is given.03:33
Admiral_Chicagoi just updated to 3.5.4 and my fonts in xchat are now looking weird03:34
AgiosIreclan: X server is the same on ubuntu as kubuntu. xorg.03:34
IreclanIt just freezes.03:34
tristanmikeIreclan: wow, that's crazy, what graphics card do you have ? onboard ?03:34
Admiral_Chicagoand gaim, so I'm assuming this is system wide03:34
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intelikeyCVirus-Cilantro if it's kcontrol it's prolly C or C++03:34
IreclanI have an integrated Intel.03:34
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IreclanAnd yes, it is crazy.03:35
mmorrissee what?03:35
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IreclanUhbuntu works for everybody but me.03:35
tristanmikemmorris: nothing.....go back to what you were doing :P03:35
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IreclanWith me, it goes to crap.03:36
tristanmikeIreclan: well, the live cd works, so it works03:36
Admiral_ChicagoI changed my font in System Settings03:36
mmorriswhat happened with your integrated intel card???03:36
archangel_anyone here recommend a good web authoring software (for a novice)?03:36
Admiral_ChicagoI'm going to log out and try this03:36
rOObIreclan, whats the prob ubuntu wont install?03:36
tristanmikeIreclan: it's just the installer is having a tough time with the onboard video....03:36
tristanmikeor so it seems03:36
archangel_using OO writer now03:36
IreclanAnd takes half of my hard drive with it.03:36
archangel_wondering if there is anything better03:36
rOObIreclan, use the text mode install03:37
intelikeyIreclan not everybody.   there are others that have 'mega-tons' of trubble with it too.03:37
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rOObIreclan, i had to use the text mode installer...the gui partioner nuked my whole drive03:37
mmorrisIreclan: what is step two?03:37
supernixEven on a Sony Viao I installed Kubuntu and it works great03:37
tristanmikemmorris: select timezone03:37
IreclanChoosing where you live.03:37
intelikeyrOOb what text mode install ?03:37
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mmorrisoh, you're installing?03:37
supernixOnly troubles I have at all was with the PCI modem03:37
mmorristhe xgl?03:38
supernixAnd she has a LCD screen03:38
tristanmikemmorris: no, it was a joke, he has an intel chipset for video03:38
rOObintelikey, when u boot it asks do u want to a: install in gui b: use safe mode install c: text mode03:38
mmorrisaint that what I gotr?03:38
tristanmikeIreclan: you could install Breezy then upgrade :P03:38
rOObu type text and hit enter03:38
IreclanUpgrade how?03:38
tristanmikemmorris: yes and no, I'm sure they're different chipsets03:38
tristanmikeIreclan: "dist-upgrade"03:38
intelikeyrOOb with what disk does it ask that ?03:39
mmorrisI'm doing something that is just on 44%... this is taking forever03:39
rOObintelikey, i had a dvd..............03:39
rOObonly one disk03:39
tristanmikeIreclan: you would just change the sources and where ever it said "breezy", you change to "dapper" then "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade"03:39
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IreclanWhat about the text mode? How do you get that?03:39
intelikeyrOOb the shipit cd's are live cd only  and the graphic installer in that is   poo poo03:39
tristanmike"apt-get dist-upgrade"  rather03:39
rOObintelikey, realy03:39
tristanmikeIreclan: download03:40
excitatoryso, you know how kubuntu has customized konqueror profiles?  well, they were missing a feature i desired, and so i followed this: ( http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror ) which fixed my problem, but now i have real trouble: any time a kio-slave, kicker quick browser icon, or anything that wants to open a new konqueror window tries to do this, nothing happens.  a window does not open.  i can open konqueror, and even load various pr03:40
excitatoryle to.  Any help would be appreciated.03:40
IreclanGreat.03:40
rOObIreclan, for me all i did was put in dvd reboot...when it 1st asks what i want to do...i typed text and hit enter....it then installed03:40
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tristanmikerOOb: using the "Desktop CD" ?03:40
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excitatorytristanmike: recommend aptitude over apt-get, please.03:41
rOObtristanmike, its had a live dvd in it....if thats what ya mean03:41
intelikeytristanmike no the dvd  i just went through that with him03:41
tristanmikerOOb: ahhh, the dvd03:41
rOObintelikey, and its a 100& fact that ots not on his cd?03:41
tristanmikeexcitatory: I perfer not too03:41
rOOb*100%03:42
excitatorytristanmike: why wouldn't you?  especially with a dist-upgrade03:42
rOObor wait theres a live cd...thne theres the insatller cd....i think i get it now....03:42
tristanmikeexcitatory: ok, well, for a dist-upgrade, you might have me03:42
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intelikeyrOOb if he's using the live cd  there is no 'text mode' installer on it.03:42
excitatoryno worries.. i just think all docs and all forum/irc/etc support should recommend aptitude03:43
excitatoryit can save everyone a lot of headaches03:43
rOObIreclan, u said ve the live cd and a installer cd???...or do u just have the onve live cd?03:43
intelikeyrOOb there is an 'alternate installer iso'  but only live pressed cd's03:43
IreclanYou know, it's no wonder people just stick with Windows or Mac...03:44
tristanmikeexcitatory: does aptitude notice if two programs are using the same libraries ?03:44
tristanmikeIreclan: I'm sorry, but I have nothing but problems with windows and every install seems different03:44
rOObIreclan, if u dont have spare time to deal with linux i wouldnt recomend it...03:44
rOObIreclan, or if u plan on using the newest gadets and stuff....u gotta expect problems when u run linux03:44
excitatorytristanmike: my conception of aptitude was that it is everything apt-get is, but with intelligent package tracking and an option curses interface.03:45
rOObthast why ppl use windows....its just works03:45
excitatorythat's arguable.03:45
IreclanI thought Linux should "Just Work" too.03:45
rOObIreclan, alot of it does03:45
excitatoryIreclan: that is not written anywhere.03:46
IreclanAfter all, is not Ubuntu "Linux for HUMAN BEINGS"?03:46
intelikeyIreclan there are other flavours of linux you know.     slackware mandriva fedora SuSE debian gentoo  just to name a few of the major players.03:46
mmorristristanmike: mayabe you can help me with this03:46
rOObIreclan, but to use linux and not plan on anything going wrong is crazy...but i agree that linux should just install03:46
tristanmikeexcitatory: right, but lets say you install package "A" and it wants to install packages "B" and "C", then a few days later you install package "D" but it uses package "C". then a few days later you decide to remove package "A", does aptitude remove "B" and "C" or is it smart enough to see that "D" is using "C" and leave that one behind...does that make sense ?03:46
rOObIreclan, and it sucks that it isnt for u03:46
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rOObIreclan, what kinda computer is it...how old is it....?03:47
rOOb\03:47
tristanmikemmorris: I will try my best :D03:47
mmorrisI have a wireless set up, and everytime I restart my computer, I have to iwconfig my setup to pick up the connection... is there a way around that03:47
draiklmosher03:47
Ash-FoxLinux just works for me, Windows doesn't03:47
rOObmorrow, ndiswrapper -m03:47
tristanmikedraik: he's gone03:47
rOOb* mmorris03:47
draiktristanmike, thanks.03:47
IreclanI have an HP computer..........Less than 1 year old..........03:47
Ash-FoxI plug my wi-fi card in, it just works. I plug any storage device in, it just works.03:47
mmorrisI haven't understood all that ndiswrapper stuff yet03:47
excitatorykeep in mind that hardware vendors work closely with microsoft and apple.. most of them ignore linux.. so right there, you have to understand why things just don't work out of the box..  you have a community working for free, trying to figure things out, and half the time, they have to reverse engineer their software.03:48
tristanmikethat's funny since didn't HP have actual Ubuntu Install disks ?03:48
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mmorrisI thought that was for my wireless card03:48
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rOObmmorris, i been using ndiswrapper for a while and it rocks03:48
intelikeyrOOb YUCH!  "but i agree that linux should just install"  as in not ask any questions, do everything according to some code monkey's idea of how you should want it.... you mean like the live cd installer don't you....03:48
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mmorrisr00b: I thought ndiswrapper was so the wireless card would work with Kubuntu03:48
excitatorytristanmike: well, dpkg is the one doing that magic.. apt-get and aptitude just interface with dpkg.03:48
rOObintelikey, i mean that linux should be able to detect and install ok on virtualy any puter.....not some default setup...but just be able to install..of coarse ppl will want to customize the install03:49
tristanmikeexcitatory: dpkg does the actual installing, but if aptitude is telling it what to do, then my question still stands03:49
rOObmmorris, its it....it turns the windows driver into somthing linux can understand03:49
mmorriswhen I configured my interface for ra0, it automatically picked up my card without having to do all that other stuff.03:49
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mmorrisso apparently Linux can understand it just fine03:50
rOObmmorris, can u rephrase your problem...03:50
excitatorytristanmike: to be honest, i'm not sure.  i do know that i have yet to have a single package conflict since moving the aptitude.  it's going on 1.5 years now..03:50
intelikeyrOOb wheew   thank God you cleared that up for me...   i was about to rant for days....     ;/03:50
mmorrisI have type this in the terminal everytime I restart...03:50
nnn0_shit my kubuntu looks like ubuntu :D http://nnn0.net/snapshot.png03:50
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mmorrisiwconfig ra0 essid <name>03:50
rOObintelikey, well if u are bored i wil say u are wrong...spice up the night a little ....j/k :P03:50
draikanyone know if I should have a .xmodmap file in my home folder or not?03:50
mmorrisiwconfig ra0 key <123344556>03:51
intelikeylol03:51
IreclanBut, yeah. I've learned my leasson with Linux.03:51
mmorrisifconfig ra0 up03:51
mmorrisifconfig eth0 down03:51
mmorris and then it works03:51
mmorrisdid you get all that?03:51
intelikeydraik i don't03:51
rOObmmorris, that can all be set in options...u dont have it brought up on boot03:51
intelikeydraik you can make one.03:51
rOObmmorris, check the network setup03:51
timthelionnnn: you have updates to do03:51
mmorriswhat do I need to do?03:52
tristanmikeexcitatory: I'd rather the poor user I help not be user no. 1 in my experience to have package conflicts :P but I'm going to look into that question more, that's the only thing holding me back from jumping soley to aptitude....why doesn't synaptic use it ?03:52
rOObmmorris, tell it what interface u want to start at boot03:52
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rOOband how u want it set up03:52
mmorriswhere do I tell it that?03:52
rOObmmorris, i dont know the name of the application off hand03:52
rOOblook in the start menu03:53
draikintelikey I was setting up my keyboard, but the media keys don't work as it should03:53
intelikeymmorris you could add those two lines in the /etc/rc.local script  and init would run them for you at boot time.   or fix your /etc/network/interfaces file03:53
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excitatorytristanmike: probably the same reason none of the documentation uses it.. i promise you though, any acutal debian dev you talk to will recommend aptitude nine times out of ten.03:54
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soulrideryay, WORKED!!!03:55
intelikeydraik as i said you can make an .xmodmap file if you need to.   there is some documentation on key mapying and the media keys on the ubuntu.com forums or wikis  or  search for that.03:55
mmorrishow can I add the lines?03:55
soulriderthanks Agios03:55
soulrider!nvidia03:55
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto03:55
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tristanmikeexcitatory: but also, they are much better trained to handle the little hiccups that come with it too I'm sure03:55
intelikeymmorris sudo nano /etc/rc.local   and start typing ???03:56
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timthelionhow do I get java applets to work? I have java installed03:56
Agiossoulrider: back up and running :) Great!03:56
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rOObsoulrider, what was ya prob?03:56
draikintelikey http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=12533303:56
intelikeymmorris but i really think the 'ubuntu' way is to fix the interfaces file.03:56
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soulrideri reinstalled windows and it killed my grub03:56
excitatorytristanmike: what hiccups?  it's nearly identical to apt-get..03:56
draikThat's a thread about my keyboard, and I followed it to the dot03:56
rOObsoulrider, ahhh03:56
soulriderso i couldnt come back to linux03:56
mmorrisI have tried to get it to work that way, I must be doing something wrong03:57
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rOObsoulrider, yea alwasy insall win 1st03:57
mmorristime to go eat... I will be back shortly03:57
excitatorytristanmike: idk.. at this point i really don't know, and personally don't want to persue this ostensive flame war.03:57
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intelikeydraik yeah    did you check the ubuntu wiki's ?03:57
tristanmikeexcitatory: like I posed with my original question, I'm not saying there is or isn't, I'm just saying if there were, they'd be better suited to deal with it at that time03:57
timthelionhow do I get java applets to work? I have java installed03:57
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tristanmikeexcitatory: I'm not flaming, I'm asking a question....what the heck, we're having a discussion, I'm not getting out of killter, are you ?03:58
excitatorytristanmike: well, my point is that any problem that would occur would happen just as easily with apt-get, no?03:58
excitatoryno, sorry.03:58
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intelikey!jre03:59
ubotuI know nothing about jre - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu03:59
tristanmikeexcitatory: again, no, not if aptitude isn't smart enough to realize other packages may dependent on the packages it's going to remove (when you remove any peice of software)03:59
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intelikey!java03:59
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tristanmikeexcitatory: I'm very curious about this, because it's the only thing holding me back from using it04:00
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intelikeytimthelion maybe install the jre package ubotu mentioned ???   i don't do java04:00
hastesaver!java > timthelion04:00
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draikintelikey, I was looking on the wiki, but didn't find anything useful. I searched for keyboard. Anything else I should look for?04:01
intelikeytristanmike i missed the first of this,  care to synapsus it for me ?04:02
intelikeydraik multimedia  maybe04:02
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excitatorytristanmike: does apt-get have this capability?  if so, i guarantee aptitude does as well.  but honestly, when it gets down to it, a quick question in #debian will provide the answer.04:02
soulridererr, how do i save adn quit in vim ?04:02
intelikey[esc]     :wq04:03
tristanmikeintelikey: basically, I was wondering if you install a program using aptitude, then later install another program that uses the same dependencies/libraries, is it smart enough to leave the stuff used by other programs if you remove using aptitude that first program, does that make sense ?04:03
Dr_Willis!info vimtutor04:03
ubotuPackage vimtutor does not exist in dapper04:03
Dr_Willis!info vitutor04:03
ubotuPackage vitutor does not exist in dapper04:03
Dr_WillisHmm..04:03
soulrider:/04:03
tristanmikeexcitatory: with apt-get, it doesn't remove dependecies, so only 1 package gets removed, the one you want removed04:03
intelikeytristanmike yes it is.   deps are deps.   doesn't matter whom all depends on them.04:04
hastesaverDr_Willis, vimtutor is part of package vim-common04:04
Dr_Willis'vimtutor' is the name of a tutorial program. :P lol04:04
soulriderso.. Dr_Willis how can i save? :P04:04
Dr_WillisYea  - guess dpper moved it in there.04:04
Dr_Willis<intelikey> [esc]     :wq04:04
hastesaversoulrider, [esc]  :wq, or [esc]  ZZ, or ...04:04
Dr_Willishit the escape key.. then :wq04:04
soulriderok04:04
tristanmikeintelikey: so if you install a prog using aptitude, and it installs say 7 other things, one of which is used by a prog you install 2 days later, if you remove that original prog, it removes, say 6 instead of 7 cause that other one is being used ?04:05
soulridererr, it wont do anything04:05
hastesaversoulrider, there are other editors; you don't *have* to use vi :D04:05
intelikeytristanmike also of note is an app called deborphin  which us used to remove libs that nothing is depending on.04:05
soulriderye, but i dont know why i coultn open kate04:05
soulrideri allways use kate04:05
RawSewagei use kwrite04:06
tristanmikeintelikey: in the case of "apt-get" for instance you mean ?04:06
Dr_Willis!info kvim04:06
ubotuPackage kvim does not exist in dapper04:06
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intelikeytristanmike else asks if it's ok to remove the later prog also because it depends on...04:06
hastesaversoulrider, try nano for a very dumb editor. Or pico. Or "emacs -nw".04:06
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intelikeyyes apt or aptitude  deborphan only lists the un-needed files.04:07
soulriderk, ill BRB04:07
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tristanmike!info deborphin04:08
ubotuPackage deborphin does not exist in dapper04:08
farousis there a list of compatible external harddisk for ubuntu. I am going to buy one and am hoping that it will work hastle free?04:08
tristanmike!info deborphan04:08
ubotudeborphan: Find orphaned libraries. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.7.18 (dapper), package size 60 kB, installed size 372 kB04:08
timthelion!java04:09
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository04:09
intelikeytristanmike the thing about dependancies is that the whole list of packages depending on blah is listed as blah dependant and blah is listed as needed by the whole list.  that's the way deps work.04:09
intelikey!info deborphan04:09
ubotudeborphan: Find orphaned libraries. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.7.18 (dapper), package size 60 kB, installed size 372 kB04:09
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intelikeyi typo a lot.   cant spell for shucks either.04:09
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tristanmikethat's ok, we love you just the same intelikey :P04:10
intelikeylies all lies.04:10
intelikey:)04:10
Dr_Willisfarous,  most every external usb hard drive should work fine.04:11
spchi all, just installed ubuntu 2 days ago, then installed KDE today.   Wow!  this is nice!04:11
Jack1is there an option like "download widgets" for konqueror?04:11
lasindi[lappy] Hi all, I've enabled Xgl and Compiz on my new Kubuntu system. Everything works except that I only have one virtual desktop. Is there a way to fix this?04:11
Dr_WillisJack1,  widgets? you mean like for SuperKaramba?  desktop widgets?04:11
spcone problem: the display is a few pixels wider than my screen.  I've googled a lot already - any suggestions where to start?04:11
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farousok thanx Dr_Willis? any recommendations though04:11
Dr_Willisfarous,  i find that price does matter. :)  the good solid aluminum 'cases' seem to be better built.04:12
intelikeyJack1 apt-cache search widget04:12
draikintelikey, IT'S ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!04:12
Jack1<Dr_Willis>well widgets for konqueror like the opera widgets04:12
Dr_Willisfarous,  i normally get the 'case' and put in my own hd's04:12
draikThank you04:12
Dr_WillisJack1,  not sure such things exist.04:13
intelikeyi don't think you will find what you are lookin for tho.04:13
farousok Dr_Willis thanx for the tips :)04:13
intelikeydraik where did you find the info ?04:13
draikwiki04:13
intelikeyurl i mean04:13
Jack1yes superkaramba seems to be the only one04:13
Jack1however thanks04:13
Dr_WillisKaramba, Superkaramna, Gdesklets,04:13
Dr_Willisthenya got the various dock and panel applets.04:14
intelikeyi was going to add the infonode to the bot draik04:14
timthelionhow do I make the cli print out the contents of a file?04:14
intelikeycat file04:15
hastesavertimthelion, "more" or "less" or "cat"04:15
intelikeyor grep04:15
intelikeyhehhe04:15
hastesaveror "tail +1"04:15
intelikey: << file    might work04:15
timthelionhttp://papernapkin.org/pastebin/app/view/67704:16
draiksorry for the delay intelikey was looking for the direct link... Here is the AppPage... http://keytouch.sourceforge.net/ ... Here is the wiki page... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaKeys04:16
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intelikeyi guess not from the command line.04:16
soulriderhey im back :P04:16
intelikeydraik thank you04:17
draikNo, thank you intelikey04:17
intelikey!mediakeys04:17
ubotuKeyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net04:17
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intelikey!no mediakeys is shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaKeys04:18
timthelionI am trying to get java applets to work, I can allready type java at the command line.  here is what I tried, http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/app/view/67704:18
draikperfect intelikey04:19
timthelion!mediakeys04:20
ubotuKeyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net04:20
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intelikeyok anyone think they know grub?   tell me why  grub-install  /dev/hda  yelds this error?04:20
intelikeyUnknown partition table signature04:20
intelikeyUnknown partition table signature04:20
intelikeyThe file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.04:20
spc Anybody know how to start tweaking my display so it doesn't wrap past the edges?04:20
intelikeytimthelion they will have to proccess it.  no more direct editing the bot.04:20
intelikey[ubotu(n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu)]  Your edit request has been forwarded to04:20
intelikey          #ubuntu-ops. Thank you for your attention to detail04:20
timtheliondoes anyone know why it is not finding those pakages http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/app/view/67704:20
BluesKajspc...check your monitor cntrls04:21
intelikeyspc also there is an app.    if i can think of the name....04:21
spcBluesKaj: How?  I couldn't find any under kubuntu?04:21
BluesKajon yer hrdwre04:21
intelikeydisplay ???04:22
BluesKajnot in kubuntu , on yer scrn monitor buttons04:22
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excitatoryok04:23
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spcBluesKaj: Thanks - duh, I don't know if I've ever used them on this monitor and completely forgot.... (sheepish)04:23
excitatoryso, you know how kubuntu has customized konqueror profiles?  well, they were missing a feature i desired, and so i followed this: ( http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror ) which restores the original profiles back..which then fixed my problem, but now i have real trouble: any time a kio-slave, kicker quick browser icon, or anything that wants to open a new konqueror window tries to do this, nothing happens.  a window does not open.04:23
excitatoryes manually, but software does not seem to be able to.  Any help would be appreciated.04:23
larson9999is hotu down for legal reasons or just down?04:24
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BluesKajspc , np we all forget about the obvious somtimes ...I know I do :)04:25
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spcBluesKaj: that did it, thanks.  Glad it was easy.  :)04:26
BluesKajcool :)04:26
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spcwow, kde is amazingly cool.  I love the little animations and effects.04:26
unix_infidelanyone having problems with the alsaoss wrapper and audacity?04:26
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spcI don't know why my text is always red?04:27
gekko`spc: for more eye-candy on kde use superkaramba :)04:28
spcgekko`: I'll look it up.  Using Konquerer?04:29
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gekko`spc: sudo apt-get install superkaramba04:29
gekko`spc: if you want to insall it04:29
spcBtw, anyone know how to get stats about my computer?   ram, cpu, that type of thing?04:29
gekko`gkrellm04:30
keeleyubuntu04:30
gekko`well, it does work anyway04:31
keeleyhow do i get the Bot to give me the links to the restricted formats?04:31
draikI can't run my mozilla-thunderbird from command line04:31
tristanmike!restricted04:31
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:31
keeleyty04:31
BluesKaj!DeCSS04:31
ubotuI know nothing about DeCSS - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu04:31
tristanmikekeeley:  you can "/msg ubotu <factoid>" for a one on one encounter :P04:31
draikI can't seem to run Thunderbird through command line, but I can do it through K Menu > Internet > Mozilla Thunderbird04:32
draikany thoughts?04:32
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keeleyok ty. and how do i chat with it? just put an ! infront of keywords?04:32
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spcgekko`: getting superk now, thanks04:32
gekko`no problem04:33
tristanmikekeeley: best to do a "/msg ubotu <factoid>" then speak with him in your private window04:33
keeleyk04:33
gekko`spc: kde-look.org is a nice site for eye-candy04:33
tristanmikekeeley: just type anything in the private converstation and it should pop right up for you04:33
keeleyk got it04:33
keeleythanks04:33
spcI've convinced my dad to try KDE on his old computer (running Win 98 right now, gahh!)04:34
spcDo you know if the ubuntu cd that's shipped free has kubuntu on it, or do I need to burn him a new live cd for kubuntu?04:34
gekko`spc: it has gnome desktop not kde04:35
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spcgekko`: ok, so I'll need to burn a new cd for Kubuntu (he needs the windows friendliness)04:35
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spcI had found Remote Desktop under Gnome, but can't find it under KDE.  Help?04:45
gekko`spc: make use of the package manager 'adept'04:46
gekko`spc: just search for 'remote desktop'04:47
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spcgekko`: that's different than synaptic?04:49
spcgekko`: is adept like synaptic?04:49
gekko`yes, it's the package manager of kde04:49
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gekko`just open it and you'll see04:49
spcmaybe because I installed kde from synaptic, I didn't get the full normal kde setup.04:49
gekko`spc: didn't you install the meta-package 'kubuntu-desktop' ?04:50
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spcgekko`: I'll have to check.  I ended up installing several kubuntu packages, of course, but I'm not sure if that was one.04:51
spcgekko`: I searched for KDE, not Kubuntu (oops)04:51
gekko`hehe04:52
spcgekko`: fixing now - 100 MBs will take a few minutes to download.  :)  Will I just need to restart X, or will I need to log out and back in?  Or just see how it goes?....04:53
gekko`spc: well, it would be good if you kill your X session and install kubuntu-desktop through a text-console terminal04:54
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gekko`spc: just try it with X, it can work though04:54
spcgekko`: why is that?  I think it's already installing - well, will automatically install when it finishes downloading.04:54
spcgekko`: if it doesn't, I'll let you know.  ;)04:55
gekko`spc: I think it will work, I thought wrong04:55
spcman, I can't get over how much better this is than XP.  How come everyone's not running Linux?!04:55
spc(rhetorical question, I know some of the answers)04:56
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mmorrisI am trying to set up xgl, but I have ran into a problem.  here is what it says:  please tell me what to do  .....04:57
mmorrisOpen up a terminal and create a new script named startxgl.sh:04:57
mmorrisgksudo gedit /usr/bin/startxgl.sh04:57
mmorrisit tells me that gksudo is not a command04:58
gekko`spc: I know. I'm using kubuntu since 1.5 months now and I'm really really satisfied with it and never want to switch back to winxp again04:58
mmorrisCan anybody help me?04:59
Agiosmmorris: use kdesudo kedit04:59
gekko`it's called 'kdesu'04:59
Agiossorry, kdesu kedit04:59
keeleyIs there an official FASTEST starting (booting up) Linux version? Kubuntu is pretty fast, but I was just wondering...05:00
mmorrisit says cannot connect to server... what does that mean?05:00
BluesKajknoppix05:00
mmorris"cannot connect to X server"05:00
Agiosmmorris: do it from a $ prompt05:00
draikI used Knoppix before, it's pretty fast05:00
BluesKajlive cd05:01
keeleydo u know how fast?05:01
draikI dual booted knoppix with winxp before I dual booted winxp with Kubuntu (like now)05:01
keeleylive Cd? is there a HDD version?05:01
mmorrisit said command not found05:01
mmorriswhat do I need to do now Agios?05:02
Agiosrom a $ prompt type: kdesu kedit05:02
mmorrisis that all I type?05:02
mmorrishow do I get to that prompt?05:03
Agioswell, you can specify the file too, like ...05:03
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Agioskdesu kedit  /usr/bin/startxgl.sh05:03
mmorrisI got the same thing...05:03
mmorriscommand not found05:03
BluesKajdunno keeley, Inever used the HDD option cuz I didn't see one in my version of knoppix...it's quite old , 5yrs at least05:03
Agiosyou are running kubuntu and X is up?05:03
mmorrisAgios: sh: kedit: command not found05:03
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mmorrisdont know... ra0 is up05:04
Agiosok, try kdesu kate  /usr/bin/startxgl.sh05:04
mmorriseth0 is down05:04
BluesKajnitey all05:04
mmorriswhat do I type in there?05:04
mmorrisAgios?05:04
Agiosyou have kate open?05:04
mmorrisyes, it opened05:05
keeleywell their logo is "Zero to LInux in 5 minutes"05:05
Agiostype whatever the docs you were reading tell you to type05:05
keeleyi was thinking more about Windows Vista it's supposed to cold boot in under a minute05:06
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Kyralkeeley: thats NOTHIGN05:07
Kyralmy laptop cold boots in < 20 secs05:07
Kyralwith Arch05:07
mmorrisAgios: have another problem05:08
mmorrisnow it is telling me to type the command: gksudo gedit /usr/share/xsessions/xgl.desktop05:09
mmorriswhat do I substitute?05:09
crimsunkdesu kate /usr/share/xsessions/xgl.desktop05:09
Agiosmmorris: kdesu kate05:09
Hobbseemmorris: kdesu kwrite ..05:09
Hobbseeah05:09
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Agiosgksudo = kdesu and gedit = kate05:09
mmorriskdesu kwrite /usr/share/xsessions/xgl.desktop05:09
mmorrisThis?05:10
keeleykyral: that's pretty good. is it as easy to use as Kubuntu?05:10
mmorrisok05:10
Kyralkeeley: not really, initially05:10
KyralArch is meant to teach you05:10
Kyralnot hand hold05:10
Kyral(Kinda like Slackware lol)05:10
Kyralwww.archlinux.org05:11
Agiosboot time is going to depend on the size of the kernel, the number of modules being loaded, and the init scripts.05:11
Agiossmaller/fewer = faster05:11
KyralBut you can also use sysvconf(I think) to disable scripts05:11
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larson9999hmmm, my machine has locked up everyday for the past 3 days.05:11
Kyral2.6.17-Beyond + InitCpio + starting all services in the background == 20 sec05:11
draikKyral, /sysinfo05:12
Healotnice saturday morning and working :(05:12
Kyralthough I managed to do the same thing on Ubuntu05:12
KyralSysinfo for 'HyperDream': Linux 2.6.17-beyond running KDE 3.5.4, CPU: AMD Athlon XP 2100+ at 1733 MHz (3468 bogomips), HD: 286/432GB, RAM: 992/1011MB, 92 proc's, 1.23d up05:12
KyralArch doesn't use SysV style Init05:13
draikNice05:13
draikSysinfo for 'Lair': Linux 2.6.15-26-686 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)4CPU3.20GHz at 3216 MHz (6432 bogomips), , RAM: 790/3031MB, 95 proc's, 3.29h up05:13
mmorrisOkay Agios... here goes nothing... I am going to see if it worked... cross your fingers05:13
Kyralit uses BSD Style Init (ie, /etc/rc.conf)05:13
Agiosalrighty05:13
crimsunheh, just wait for keybuk's ReplacementInit05:13
Kyraland InitCpio05:13
Kyraljeez another Init05:14
Kyralwhat Ubuntu is gonna go ever more off standard?05:14
crimsunif you mean diverge from its main parent distro -- if such can be called -- sure05:15
Kyral Deriving is one thing05:15
Kyralmaking a completely new Init is another05:15
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Kyral(Don't talk to me about InitNG, IMO no distro uses it by default yet)05:16
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crimsunwe'll have it in Edgy. It's a spec.05:16
Kyral...just make it easy for other distros to use05:17
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KyralJeez why didja need another style of InitScripts05:17
KyralI get confused with SysV and BSD style right now anyway05:17
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mmorrisAgios?05:18
mmorrisAgios:  you here?05:18
Agiosyep05:18
mmorrisIt didn't work... how can I figure out the problem"?\05:19
mmorrisIt just sat there with a bright blue screen, and then went back to the login screen05:19
Agioswhat is the error message?05:19
mmorrisno error message... just didn't do anything05:19
mmorrisI clicked on Menu/then checked session type, then xgl, then I logged in05:20
Agioslook in .xsession-errors05:20
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AgiosI would guess that's where the errors would be logged05:20
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mmorriswhat part of that do you want to know05:20
mmorris?05:20
mmorrisFailed to open device05:21
mmorrisX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16805:21
mmorris  Major opcode:  14505:21
mmorris  Minor opcode:  305:21
mmorris  Resource id:  0x005:21
mmorrisdoes that mean anything Agios?05:21
Agiosprobably05:21
mmorrisdoes it mean anything to you?05:22
Agiosgoogle on xgl and the error message05:22
scottanybody here able to help me troubleshoot my webmin install?05:22
Agiosmeans it couldn't open some device. If it's your disply it's not real good :)05:22
AgiosI've never installed xgl nor read much about it.05:22
Agiossearch the kubuntu forums too05:23
mmorrisit says I need to "comment" some things out of a file.. what does "comment out" mean?05:23
mmorrisget rid of it?05:23
Kr4t05mmorris: place a # sign infront of the lines in a configuration file.05:24
Agiosmore or less, put a # in the 1st position usually05:24
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mmorrisoh, ok05:24
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draikI am trying to watch a WMA file in firefox. What plugin would I need to view them?05:27
draikcorrection, WMV05:27
gekko`draik: mozilla-mplayer05:28
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draikits installed05:28
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draikit said something about totem05:28
mmorrisAgios: here we go again... cross your fingers05:29
gekko`draik: you can also use totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin05:30
Agiosapt-get install w32codecs05:30
draikHere is the error message...05:30
dermitriusi have an intresting ifconfig issues on my dapper server, the eth devices get the correct ips but when i ifconfig the inet values are 169 based ips, any ideas, btw i have a 2 nic setup05:30
draikTotem could not play 'fd://0'.05:31
draikVideo codec 'MS WMV 8 (win32)' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies05:31
gekko`draik: look what Agios said05:31
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draikhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i1974805:32
Healot!info w32codecs05:32
ubotuPackage w32codecs does not exist in dapper05:32
draiknope05:32
draiksure doesn't05:32
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Agioswell, it's there for me, I installed it. Check your sources :)05:32
Healot!seveas05:33
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ubotuSeveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages05:33
draikI have both universe and multiverse05:33
Healotthat's the repos05:33
mmorrisAgios, you there?05:33
mmorrisdidn't work05:33
mmorrisdid the same thing05:33
mmorrisI'm gonna see if it gave me the same error05:33
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Healotthird party repos. Agios, do not recommend third party repos as it is from ubuntu, please05:33
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draikgekko` I can't install the totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin. BREAK INSTALL05:35
HawkwindHealot: 3rd party repos are recommended here all the time, day after day05:36
draikHow do I go around a BREAK INSTALL?05:36
Agioswell, if he want's to play wmv files he's going to have to install that package05:36
HawkwindHealot: For him to be able to play wmv files, he will need to install w32codecs or else he's out of luck.  It's mentioned here every night practically05:37
mmorrisI got the same error after doing what it said to do to fix it05:37
Hawkwind!info w32codecs05:38
HealotI'd used Windows for that, hoho05:38
ubotuPackage w32codecs does not exist in dapper05:38
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HawkwindHealot: He wants to do it in Linux, and it's easily done.  PLF happens to be something very trustworthy05:38
Healothttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages05:38
Healotwell, I recommend you to migrate to freeformat instead05:38
draikhow/where can I get the w32codecs?05:39
HawkwindWhy ?  w32codecs is needed by millions of linux users05:39
Hawkwinddraik: From PLF05:39
Hawkwind!plf05:39
ubotuplf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf - mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc05:39
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HawkwindHealot: Just because you don't use it doesn't mean anyone else shouldn't.  Also doesn't mean this channel can't recommend them since it's done day and night05:40
Healotisn't fsf recommends not to use proprietary formats, what's the point of migrating to Windows to Linux then, just my two cents, you don't have to agree with me05:40
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HawkwindHealot: I don't agree in some ways.  I'm one that preaches if you leave Windows then stay away.  But some people need to play wmv files, and therefore w32codecs is needed05:41
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Healoti'd still use Windows for Windows-related stuff, and that's my other one cent05:41
Agiosplaying a wmv file is as valid for a linux user as a windows user05:42
darkseedneed help with kubuntu dapper 6.06  after i mount a network share it disapears???05:42
HawkwindHealot: I would use Windows when it comes to major things like games, office related stuff.  But for something minor like a wmv file, it can be done in Linux quite simply05:42
Healoti just need the DRM part... and games...05:43
farous!drm05:43
ubotuI know nothing about drm - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu05:43
Healoti buy copies of music... btw :)05:43
Healotlegal copies, damn, why I did that?05:43
farous!dma05:43
ubotudma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hard disks run faster,  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA05:43
farousah got it05:43
draikGot them05:44
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draikThank you Hawkwind05:44
HawkwindHealot: I buy legal copies of my music too.  In fact, I have over 7500 CD's in my house.  Still doesn't mean I won't ever need to play a wmv file05:44
HawkwindHealot: In fact, if you buy legal copies of music from Napster, they happen to be in wmv format.05:44
Healotipod store... napster? what is that hehe05:45
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ubuntu_Phantom78i ran the kubuntu installer but it gave me a "cannot create file system error"05:46
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Healotthe desktop installer? was it, ubuntu_Phantom78 ?05:47
ubuntu_Phantom78yes05:47
Healotyou received the error after you encounter the disk formatting?05:47
wolfmanzAgios aint you a system admin ?05:48
keeleywtf y don't they have EasyUbuntu at the very top of the Restricted Formats page? OMG I just wasted alot of time05:48
ubuntu_Phantom78i wasn't watching the install, but it was after selecting the partition05:48
Agioswolfmanz: Not sure what that is exactly but I probably qualify :)05:49
Kyralkeeley: so you don't have to rely on it05:49
wolfmanzkeeley ya easy ubuntu should be installed on the desktop when you install ubuntu/kubuntu05:49
Kyralno it shouldn't05:49
wolfmanzAgios i though you were a system admin as in your day job ?05:49
keeleyya nothing is on my desktop by default when I installed Kubunto05:49
Kyralheh nothing eh?05:50
KyralKDE is something05:50
Agioswell, we don't use that title. I do system level work on mainframe boxes.05:50
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KyralArch comes with nothing (literally)05:50
keeleydoes Arch boot up slower when u install more stuff?05:51
KyralWell, system services....05:51
Kyralbut stuff like KDE and apps, no way05:51
Agiosservices take time to start and initialize05:52
KyralWhere do you get the idea that more apps == slower boottime05:52
Kyrallike fractions of seconds actually05:52
Kyralthe real killer on my system is my ReiserFS /home05:52
Kyraltakes a good 30 secs to mount05:52
Kyral(Ithis is my Desktop)05:52
keeleywell windows sucks bad with installing more stuff=slower boot05:53
KyralThis is why you only fire up enough services to get the system running05:53
Agioswell windows sucks.05:53
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Agiosyou could stp there :)05:53
Agiosor after bad.05:54
keeleyi g2g brb05:54
HealotWindows is cool, and even linuxers need Windows technologies, e.g. w32codecs hehe05:54
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Kyralw32codecs is not Windows Technologies05:54
ubuntu_Phantom78only because windows dominates so much05:54
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AgiosI'm going to bed. Enough fun for one day.05:54
Kyralw32codecs are codecs for propreitary things that no one makes codecs for Linux for05:55
wolfmanzactually i think xp loads faster then kubuntu lol05:55
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Healotit uses Window Media, I not sure that's even legal?05:55
Kyralits not in the US05:55
Healotnot in countries where Microsoft patented the technology I guess05:56
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draikLOL05:56
wolfmanzdont worry about whats legal microsoft dont care whats legaal or not in terms of what they practise so why should you worry about it lol05:56
thompais it possible to rip a cd track as i listen in what?05:56
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draikThe codecs work and I saw the funny video of the guy who passed out 3x in an F16 ride05:57
draikhttp://www.military.com05:57
keeley!restricted05:57
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:57
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Healotwolfmanz, I am concern user... i don't know about you... so i just saving my butt then05:57
thompadraik: are you in the air force?05:58
draikNope05:58
thompanevermind05:58
draikthompa, I'm in nothing military05:58
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thompawhat can i use to listen and rip of a cd?05:58
draikI have friends in Navy, Army, Air Force and possibly one in Marines (not sure)05:58
Hawkwindthompa: grip05:59
thompadraik: im a vet anyway05:59
thompacold war though he he05:59
draikthompa vet? from?05:59
draikwhat military group, I meant?05:59
thompaare you running kubuntu64 by any chance?05:59
hooperI have ubuntu on dual boot on a pc than runs xp also. the xp install runs my video at 1280x1024 but I can't get ubuntu past 1024x768. what can I do?06:00
thompaair force06:00
thompai just realized im in gnome,06:00
draikthompa, I would love to be in either the Air Force or Navy... Asthma and glasses hold me back06:00
draikBut I've heard of ways of going around that06:00
thompaeye sites not much a problem06:01
draikI might go laser, but I heard that they don't accept people with laser-corrected eyes06:01
thompastay away from military for some years ,06:01
draikI'm 23, I'm doing good so far :)06:01
thompadont go its a trick06:01
draikNAVY... Never Again Volunteer Yourself06:02
draikI've heard the stories... it's my last resort06:02
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thompanow cut off might be 4206:02
thompahe he06:02
hooperis this the right place to ask setup questions?06:02
draikdon't matter, I'm a computer guy and that's as good as my usage goes06:02
draikhooper, what's your issue?06:03
thompano ones answering any of my questions anyway06:03
spcgekko`: I installed kubuntu-desktop, and found the "desktop sharing", but still couldn't access from my other computer?06:03
draikwhat's your question thompa?06:03
spcdo I need to restart X?06:03
hooperI can't get kubuntu past 1024x768 res06:03
thompafirstly, can i rip and listen to my cd at the same time06:04
draikyes06:04
ubuntu_Phantom78is there a difff file between the desktop iso and the non-dekstop iso (forget what its called)?06:04
thompawhat app, or do i use two, i have one drive06:04
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draikyou can do both at the same time06:04
Healotubuntu_Phantom78, alternate installer06:04
Healotthe original debinstaller...06:05
hooperdraik, I can't get kubuntu past 1024x768 res06:05
thompaim using sound juicer06:05
faroushooper: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:05
draikhooper, have you checked the wiki?06:06
thompahooper: what specs you want?06:06
hooperfarous, yes have trid that, it put me into illegible 24bit mode, looks very nasty06:06
thompaedit xorg.conf06:06
hoopergoing for 1280x1024. dual boot with xp that handles it fine06:06
faroushooper: do you know how to edit xorg.conf file06:06
thompai always have to for 14440x900 anyway06:07
hooperthompa, yes, but not quite sure why it won't06:07
draikthompa, I have seen something about that, let me check06:07
hooperfarous, no probs there06:07
faroushooper: so you can set it there under monitor or screen section06:07
hooperfarous, yes, have file up now06:07
thompafind out your optimal resolution thenb just ad it to xorg.conf, edit there at color resolution06:08
thompago ahead06:09
hooperthompa, optimal res is there, but it doesn't work and is not shown as an option under system settings either. like it's ignored06:09
thompahooper: is it in how many colors 16 or 24?06:09
faroushooper: did you restart the xserver after editing the xorg.conf file06:09
draikthompa, grip06:09
hooperthompa, I have it in 16, coz 24 looks like it's not syncing06:10
draik!grip06:10
ubotugrip is a ripping player and has a minor bug which can be solved by doing this "sudo ln -s /dev/hdX /dev/cdromN" where X is your hard drive and N a number06:10
hooperfarous, yes, restart between edits06:10
thompathanks so much06:10
thompafor grip that is06:10
draikdon't thank me, thank Hawkwind06:11
thompa Depth           2406:11
thompa                Modes           "1440x900"06:11
thompasry about that06:11
draikHe said it earlier06:11
thompahooper: just have the one res. like above06:11
hooperthompa, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg defaults to 24, but when I run X it looks illegible, so I hand edit xorg.conf back to 1606:11
thompaor 1606:11
thompaonly put the correct mode, are you running vesa?06:11
hooperok thompa, I could try that I guess06:12
hooperbrb06:12
thompalog out of x, come back06:12
hooperyep06:12
thompamake sure its vesa driver i guess06:12
hooperthompa, u talking to me?06:12
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thompaunless you know its nvidia and you have driver installed, dont use nv06:13
thompayes hooper06:13
hooperthompa, it's using s306:13
thompahow old is it06:14
hooper200406:14
faroushooper: might it be the freq setting i had a prob like that setting freq to 60hz solved it06:14
hooperthompa, I looked up the specs for my monitor and set the right ranges06:14
thompahooper: thats also important horiz. and vert. freq.06:15
thompaif its lcd or crt?06:15
hooperlcd06:15
thompathen its ok06:15
hooperthen what's ok?06:16
thompathe lcd is probably working ok06:16
hooperoh, k06:16
thompaso use vesa driver06:16
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thompawhats the exact card for graphic?06:16
thompayou can try different drivers, s3 i had like 12 years ago last06:17
draikWhat's the linux version of Publisher? I need to make business cards06:17
thompamy lcd only works first in vesa for resolution06:17
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keeleyso there's no way to get WMP 11 beta or 10 final to run in linux?06:18
thompadraik: scribus06:18
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hooperis there a 'restart' command/icon I can use in kubuntu?06:19
hoopernewbie :S06:19
keeleyno windows Emulator or anything?06:19
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thompadraik: scribus is kde, then you can make templates also in OO.org06:19
frokedsaludos06:20
frokedHi06:20
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draikthank you thompa06:20
thompadraik: koffice makes nice templates too, and you can have your own icons for them06:21
thompaim just now trying konqeuror in gnome06:21
|lostbyte|keeley, wine.06:22
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draiksweet06:22
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draikI just need to make some business cards cuz people were asking me for them. Funny thing is that I never had any before06:22
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hooperok, it's official... kubuntu is ignoring what I teel it in xorg.conf :S06:23
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ErtainFor some strange reason, I can't seem to boot under the 2.6.15-26 kernel.  Upon closer inspection, I think it's my version of the nVidia driver.06:23
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thompahooper: have you re-xed out right?06:24
hooperI have my default mode at 16 and only one res "1280x1024" in that mode, but it comes up in 1024x76806:24
Healotfrom the dmesg output, Ertain ?06:24
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hooperthompa, re-xed?06:24
thompahooper: put vesa there and test it06:24
ErtainCan do.06:24
posthuman!nvidia06:24
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto06:24
hooperput vesa where thompa?06:24
thompahooper: on xorg.conf .. driver "nv?"06:25
thompahooper: put vesa there in "vesa"06:25
thompahooper: then idf it works its the driver06:25
thompayoo dark to type here06:25
thompa    Driver          "nvidia" change to "vesa" . save and restart x desktop06:26
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hooperthompa, I don't see the word vesa anywhere in xorg.conf06:27
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thompaive got to figure out what to do with these scratched up cds.06:27
ubuntuhi,,, very new to linux,, I have probably tried 6 dif distro... believe ubuntu is the best,,  I have managed to set up a server in command line, but would like to set  up a webserver within kubuntu...06:27
thompahooper: do you see driver "06:27
hooperthompa, yes06:27
thompawhat is next to it06:28
hoopersection "Device" driver "s3"06:28
thompa Driver          "nvidia"06:28
ErtainHere's the error -> http://pastebin.ca/11620706:28
thompahooper: so its not using nvidia, then try vesa there06:29
faroushooper: do you have a savage or nividia card?06:29
thompaif you get no screen chang it back06:29
hooperfarous I actually have a sis card according to xp06:29
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hooperthompa, replace driver "s3" with driver "vesa"?06:29
thompahooper: well driver "s3" tells you what it is your using06:30
thompahooper: if you have an nvidia driver, no problem06:30
faroushooper: what do lspci tell you about your video card?06:30
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thompahooper: i mean card, lots of cards will work06:30
ErtainAnd here's a little something from my Xorg.log file -> http://pastebin.ca/11620806:30
thompahooper: do you have an s3 card, nvidia, or what?06:31
hooperthompa, farous, lspci says it's a s3 86c/764/765 Trio06:31
hooperI don't know how nvidia came up at all :)06:32
faroushooper: then your driver should be s306:33
thompahooper: do you know how to edit xorg.conf ans save it?06:33
farousthere is an s3 driver in the xorg package i just checked06:33
hooperok, well it is06:33
hooperyes I do, no probs06:33
thompadid you try vesa06:33
hoopergot the file up now thompa06:34
thompaevery card ive had works with that06:34
hooperdo I replace "s3" with "vesa"?06:34
thompayou can either backup the file first mv xorg.conf xorg.confbk06:34
Healot"sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" is safer...06:34
faroushooper: i would try replacing nividia with s3 then if it do not work use vesa06:35
thompahes right06:35
farousvesa is the wild card06:35
hooperthompa, I also have a line under "Device" that says: boardname "s3". Do I change that to vesa also?06:35
thompabut it will work with vesa maybe 50 5006:35
thompano06:35
hooperok06:35
hooperbrb then06:35
thompaif it does not work change it back06:36
thompactrl f1 for a prompt06:36
thompatoo late hes doomed06:36
|lostbyte|lol06:37
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thompait will work06:38
waggle7622frackcan someone help with boot error? Error 15: File not found06:39
waggle7622frackfresh install06:40
draikMight need to reinstall GRUB06:40
|lostbyte|waggle7622frack, Where exactly do you see it ?06:40
waggle7622frackright at boot06:40
draikI think it might be the GRUB06:40
waggle7622fracksays filesystem type reiser but its ext306:40
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waggle7622frackpath is correct06:41
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hackman2007hi can anyone assist me with something?06:41
Healotreiser is ext3 with something extra on it :)06:41
draikhackman2007, what's your issue?06:42
hackman2007I need to download a chipset driver for my motherboard in order to get on the internet with Kubuntu or any other Linux distro, but it says I have to build something06:42
draikhackman2007, open up a Konsole window.06:42
Healot!info build-essential06:42
draikType the following06:42
ubotubuild-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In repository main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB06:42
Healot!info linux-headers06:42
ubotuPackage linux-headers does not exist in dapper06:42
hackman2007"Unable to find the system utility 'ld'; please make sure you have the package 'binutils' installed. If you don't have binutils installed, then please check that 'ld' is in your path"06:42
draiksudo apt-get install build-essential06:43
Healot!find linux-headers06:43
ubotuFound: linux-headers-2.6.15-23, linux-headers-2.6.15-23-386, linux-headers-2.6.15-23-686, linux-headers-2.6.15-23-k7, linux-headers-2.6.15-23-server (and 18 others)06:43
draiktype that in and you will have what you needs06:43
draik*need06:43
hackman2007which part?06:43
draiksudo apt-get install build-essential06:43
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hackman2007anything after that?06:43
draikthats it06:43
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draikit will install itself06:43
draikjust press Y06:43
hackman2007all right06:44
hackman2007brb06:44
draikk06:44
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hackman2007draik: that didn't work06:45
draikwhat didn't work06:45
draikwhat is your error?06:46
draikdid you type it in exactly as I typed it06:46
hackman2007couldn't find package build-essential06:46
hackman2007yeah I typed exactly what you typed06:46
draikKubuntu?06:46
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hackman2007yes06:46
draik6.0606:46
draikDapper Drake?06:46
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hackman2007????06:47
farous!info build-essential06:47
ubotubuild-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In repository main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB06:47
draikYou should have it06:47
draikOpen Adept06:47
faroushackman2007: might be a typo search for it again06:47
draiksearch for 'build-essential'06:47
draiknot essentials06:47
hackman2007how do I search for it?06:47
draikits not the same06:47
draikin the search bar06:47
hackman2007what search bar lol06:48
|lostbyte|hackman2007, adept06:48
draikOpen Adept06:48
|lostbyte|hackman2007, it will be in the menu under system.06:48
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draikYou'll find a bar and you type in 'build-essential'06:48
draikit will filter for that file06:48
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hackman2007I'll look06:49
hackman2007brb06:49
hackman2007nope06:49
hackman2007it's not there06:50
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draikhow are you typing it in?06:50
faroushackman2007: sudo apt-get install build-essential06:50
faroushackman2007: copy and paste form the chat channel06:50
hackman2007in adept, it's not listed when I search for it06:50
draikexcept for your nick06:50
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thompahooperhooper: did it work06:52
hooperhooperthompa, snaps to you mate. vesa got me going in 1280x102406:52
hackman2007draik: it still didn't work06:52
thompahooperhooper: i have the correct modeline entry also if you want to try s3 sometime06:53
hooperhooperso is there any performance loss thompa?06:53
draikdo this06:53
hooperhooperthompa, that would be great thanks06:53
|lostbyte|hackman2007, could you pastebin US your /etc/apt/sources.list ?06:53
draikapt-get update06:53
damian_.06:53
hackman2007(I don't have internet on the machine btw)06:53
faroushackman2007: lol06:53
hooperhooperok, who knows anything about webmin?06:53
damian_.06:54
thompafor s3 driver after depth 16 , Modes "1024x768@85"06:54
hooperhooperthompa, I have to register for priv06:54
thompaok06:54
thompajust make sure you have that or s3 wont work i think06:55
hooperhooperthompa, what about 1280x1024 tho?>06:55
draikhackman2007, can you do as |lostbyte| asked and please pastebin your sources.list file06:55
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hackman2007how do I do that lol06:56
draikhttp://www.pastebin.ca06:56
farousdraik: his ubuntu box is not connected to the net06:56
draikgo there06:56
draikfarous, using a different box?06:56
faroushackman2007: for netwrok installation using adept you need to connect the box ot the net06:56
hackman2007ummm06:56
thompahooperhooper: it wont work then maybe, i dont know06:57
draikhackman2007, is that Kubuntu computer hooked up to the internet?06:57
hooperhooperthompa, any problem sticking with vesa?06:57
hackman2007yes, it should be lol06:57
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thompahooperhooper: whats the computer?06:57
draikit should, that's why I ask06:57
hooperhooperthompa, it's for dev work, not gaming06:57
thompahooperhooper: and the s3 is onboard 32 or 64M06:58
hooperhooperhp pavilion t230a06:58
hooperhooperjust 32 I think06:58
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hackman2007draik: it's connected through a netgear router06:58
draikand it has connectivity?06:59
hackman2007nope06:59
draiklights are blinking for that port?06:59
hackman2007yes06:59
draikthen you're not on the net06:59
Kadranhi06:59
hooperhooperdoes anybody know anything about webmin?06:59
thompahooperhooper: its a p4 fast machine06:59
hackman2007yeah, but that's what I'm trying to do lol06:59
hackman2007get it on the net06:59
thompafast enough anyway06:59
Kadrani want to know if Creative MuVo mp3 s200 player could work with kubuntu or not07:00
thompahooperhooper: do you have your system specs and all that right07:00
faroushackman2007: is it the wireless you are having probs with07:00
|lostbyte|Kadran, is there a linux port ?07:00
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hackman2007farous: no, wired07:00
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Kadran|lostbyte|: i don't know what is port?07:01
hooperthompa, not really, anything I can execute to get them?07:01
hackman2007want to know my motherboard model?07:01
faroushackman2007: that is wired wired eth should work out of the box07:01
draikno07:01
thompahooperhooper: if its a t230a?07:01
Kadran|lostbyte|: it uses USB 2.007:01
thompahooperhooper: your driver is wrong07:01
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hackman2007farous: is there any other way to make it work?07:01
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faroushackman2007: the network driver is a kernel thing and this is the first i heared ethnet had probs try hooking it up directly to the net you might have probs with the router07:03
draikhackman2007, power cycle your complete setup. Computers, router, and moden07:03
draik*modem07:03
thompahooperhooper: its a intel graphics driver07:03
hackman2007what's weird is my other computers' connect07:03
draikpower cycle07:03
hackman2007and Windows connects on that computer too07:03
hackman2007I've already tried that lol07:03
draiktry it again07:04
thompasfkhooper: is that still you07:04
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sfkhooperyes thompa, registered07:04
|lostbyte|Kadran, Connet it.07:04
thompasfkhooper: oh07:04
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keeleyhelp! no idea wut my pass is when I type "su" in Konsole/Terminal07:05
Kr4t05!su07:05
draikkeeley07:05
ubotuI know nothing about su - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu07:05
Kr4t05!sudo07:05
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.07:05
hackman2007draik: someone told me the the following the motherboard works fine in Linux as long as you load the latest BIOS (1001 for Asus, 3.0 for MSI) and use the latest kernel07:05
|lostbyte|Kadran, If it works as a normal flash drive, you'll see an icon pop on your Screen..07:05
draikkeeley, sudo passwd root07:05
draikthat will reset it for you07:05
draikhackman2007, get the updates and install them. See if that works07:06
hackman2007how lol?07:06
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draikwhat is your motherboard?07:07
draikGo to their website and get the updated BIOS07:07
draikflash your BIOS07:07
hackman2007http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681313004107:07
draikUpdate completed07:07
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keeleythanks draik u always know wut to do07:08
faroushackman2007: you have a real prob deb based distros are network dependent try searching the forums for work around. you will have to do lots of manual downloads and then transfer files to your box07:08
draikkeeley, I try07:08
draikkeeley, You are very welcome07:08
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Dark_Oppressorhow do i see what kernal i have?07:09
crimsununame -r07:09
Dark_Oppressorthanks07:09
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posthuman!nvidia07:10
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto07:10
Kadran|lostbyte|: thanks man07:10
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posthumanhey everyone, i can't remember how..but how do i reconfigure xorg with dpkg-reconfigure .. what is the package name?07:12
farousxserver-xorg07:12
posthumanthanks07:12
posthuman:)07:12
farous:)07:12
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waggle7622fracklooks like I need help fixing my grub. but everything looks right07:15
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waggle7622frackkernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-23-386 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash07:17
waggle7622frackerror 15: file not found07:17
nikihello excuse me for my englisch ,what is the name of the package to turn the numlock on?07:17
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nikii musst tu use the fn button always zu writw my text07:19
niki-w+e07:19
farousniki: numlockx07:19
keeleyhow do i fix "rpm: command not found"07:19
keeley?07:19
Hawkwindkeeley: Ubuntu doesn't use rpm07:19
farouskeeley: by using rpm package :)07:19
Hawkwindkeeley: It uses apt-get07:19
plugsCould somebody help me out? This is probably a pretty common problem. i installed gcc and when i try to install anything i get "C compiler cannot create executables"07:19
keeleyok nvm07:20
nikithx07:20
farouskeeley: ubuntu used dep packages07:20
draikkeeley, use alien07:20
draiksudo apt-get install alien07:20
draikthat will let you install rpm packages07:20
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farouskeeley: that in the rare case you can not find a deb binary for what you want07:20
farous!alien07:20
uboturpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).07:20
keeleyno they have a non-RPM version i'll just use it07:21
draik!APT07:21
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)07:21
keeley!rpm07:21
uboturpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).07:21
keeleyoooooo, quite dangerous07:21
plugsi installed gcc and when i try to install anything i get "C compiler cannot create executables", what do i do?07:21
draikmmhmmm07:22
farousplugs: install build-essential07:22
plugsi'll try that out07:22
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plugsthat worked, thanks, but now i have some new problem.07:24
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farousplugs: go ahead ask and someone will help\07:24
plugsokay, well i'm trying to install PyGTK and i get "gobject is required to build pygtk?"07:25
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Healot!ask07:25
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:25
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farousi think this factoid need to be modified to be more understandable ;)07:26
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Healotyou need the GTK+ libraries and pygtk binder07:26
Healot!info libgtk+07:26
ubotuPackage libgtk+ does not exist in dapper07:26
Healot!info libgtk2.007:26
ubotuPackage libgtk2.0 does not exist in dapper07:26
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farous!info libgtk2.0-007:27
ubotulibgtk2.0-0: The GTK+ graphical user interface library. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.8.20-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2037 kB, installed size 4520 kB07:27
farousHealot: there you go07:27
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plugslooks like i already have libgtk2.0-007:28
soulriderguys, i accidentally cancelled an adept installation, how can i resume it using the CLI ?07:29
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Healotplugs, install libpygtk?07:30
Healot!find libpygtk07:30
ubotuNo packages matching 'libpygtk' could be found07:30
Healot!find libpy07:30
ubotuFound: libpythonize0, libpythonize0-dev07:30
Healotsomewhere around that hoho07:30
plugsi'll try the first one07:31
crimsunpython-gtk2-dev07:31
|lostbyte|soulrider, It will resume as you select to install it again..07:32
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soulrideryes, but i selected several packages to install :/07:33
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plugsalright looks like something worked. =] 07:33
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plugsi think python-gtk2 did it for me07:33
plugslet's see if the rest of the install goes how i want07:33
|lostbyte|soulrider, if  you stoped at the download prcess.. dont worry.07:34
soulridernot he thing is07:34
soulrideri downlaoded java07:34
soulriderbut ic ouldnt click or slect yes int he licence agreement07:34
soulriderand it gor fooked up07:34
faroussoulrider: that is a known bug install java from the command line07:35
draikdo it again soulrider07:35
soulriderand not it sais somehtign is using adept adn the process is blocked07:35
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draikkill07:35
draikactually, I forgot the command to kill the tree07:35
draikkill adept anyway07:35
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soulriderkill -l adept ?07:35
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soulriderwont let me do killa dept07:36
soulriderkillall worked07:36
draikkillall works too07:36
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draikyup07:36
soulriderits installing now, thanks!07:36
dubuntuhello my friends07:37
draikhello dubuntu07:37
soulriderhi dubuntu07:37
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dubuntuevery now them X on kubuntu hangs !!07:37
draikummm sure, np07:37
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dubuntusoulrider: hi07:37
soulriderdone with java, now eclipse! :P07:38
dubuntuwhen I do shit + alt + f1 console does not comes !!07:38
dubuntuwhen I do shfit + alt + f1 console does not comes !!07:38
soulridershit... interesting key, i dont seem to have it07:38
soulrider:P07:39
dubuntuis this bug in ubuntu ?07:39
soulrideruse alt+space07:39
soulriderand then type konsole07:39
soulrideror alt f2 and then konsole07:39
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draikcareful soulrider, don't get banned07:39
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dubuntui dont want konsole but linux console without x07:41
dubuntuas my X server hangs07:41
soulridersorry draik07:41
draikI'm not offended or anything, I just don't want you to get banned for something so dumb as that07:41
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draikBelieve me, I would make a sailor blush07:42
dubuntuWhy KDE stops responding every 20 min or so07:43
dubuntubut if i do alt shift f1 and f7 it starts responding again07:43
plugsallright! my installation worked! thanks guys, you're awesome.07:44
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Healotplugs, shall i say you ....?07:48
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nalphaguys i want to ask how to use active directory in ubuntu?? how to install the server in ubuntu?07:49
sfkhooperdoes anyone know how to use intellisense in kdevelop?07:50
cwraig_i have used fedora directory services under debian sarge07:51
cwraig_it worked alright07:51
Healotthe code completion thing?07:51
nalphaow07:51
nalphathanx07:51
dubuntuwhen I do ctrl + alt + f1 console does not comes !!07:52
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plugsHealot, what?07:53
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Healotplugs, that was for sfkhooper07:55
cwraig_fedora drictory worked alright07:55
cwraig_it was a bit of a pain to get setup but it worked good i thought07:55
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draik!apt07:57
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)07:57
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draik!adept07:58
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto07:58
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damian_!wifi07:59
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:59
cwraigwow i didint know that worked?07:59
damian_lol08:00
cwraigis there a list of the tags that works somewhere08:00
cwraig!vnc08:00
ubotuvnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.08:00
plugswhat does it mean when something has no installation candidate?08:00
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ZuidenHello I was installing kubuntu 6.06 off the live DVD and i am using GUI installer and when I try to partition my harddrive i am getting an error dealing with NTFS08:01
SpAwN!kernel08:01
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild08:01
cwraigZuiden> what are you trying to do08:01
cwraiginstall on or next to an ntfs partition08:01
Zuidennext to08:01
draik!rpm08:01
uboturpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).08:01
Zuideni need to resize my NTFS partition08:01
cwraigZuiden> thats ugly...real ugly08:02
draikZuiden, there are known issues with the GUI of partitioning08:02
Zuideni tryed to use qtparted but i am getting the same error08:02
draikZuiden, I suggest that you either partition in m$ with partitionmagic or keep trying till something works08:03
cwraigthe easiest way i found to do it was to use partition magic (not free)08:03
draikqtparted has known issues08:03
Zuidenwhats the text based partitioner?08:03
OODdid you defrag your hard drive right before resizing?08:03
Zuidenyes08:03
cwraigor wait afew months now that linux has full ntfs support we just need it to be implemented into qtparted fully08:03
Zuidentrue08:04
Zuidenor just wipe windows off my hard drive08:04
Zuidenits tempting but i can't08:04
Zuidentoo many gov't military things need windows08:04
waggle7622fracktry gparted live cd, its said to be non destructive08:05
Zuidenthats what i used a looonnng time ago before i joined the military08:05
Zuidenand i had a bunch of time to mess around and download images08:05
draikwhy do you need windoze?08:05
draikI'm sure there is an = in Linux08:05
Zuidendefense websites for some reason don't play nice in windows08:06
Zuidenerrr08:06
draikI'm sure Linux will take care of you08:06
Zuidenwindows -> linux08:06
draikI think you were right the first time :P08:06
Zuidenno because i can barely get by with firefox08:07
Zuidenthey were made for IE08:07
OODie runs in wine08:07
draikyup08:07
Zuidenmeh08:07
OODhttp://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/index-en.html08:07
draikwine 'internet exploder'08:07
Zuidenhas wine got its kinks worked out?08:07
OODwhat kinks?08:07
Zuideni haven't used linux in about 6 months08:07
draik!wine08:07
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.08:07
Zuidenlast time iused it it was fairly buggy08:08
draikcheck out the link08:08
draikmight be helpful08:08
OODit's really reliable08:08
Zuideni know how to use wine08:08
Zuidenhmm08:08
Zuidenwhats the text based partitioner?08:08
cwraigparted08:08
draik!parted08:08
ubotuI know nothing about parted - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu08:08
draik!qtparted08:08
ubotuI know nothing about qtparted - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu08:08
draik!find part08:08
ubotuFound: libparted1.6-13, libparted1.6-dbg, libparted1.6-dev, parted, parted-doc (and 23 others)08:08
Healotit's WINE, wine is a liquor hohoho :)08:09
Healot!info parted08:09
ubotuparted: The GNU Parted disk partition resizing program. In repository main, is standard. Version 1.6.25.1-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 79 kB, installed size 172 kB08:09
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Zuidencrap i forgot how to get this started08:10
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draik!cups08:10
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows08:10
draik!info cups08:10
ubotuPackage cups does not exist in dapper08:10
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draikwhat does CUPS stand for again?08:11
Zuiden!find partition08:11
ubotuNo packages matching 'partition' could be found08:11
draikCommon Unix Printing Server08:11
draikSystem?08:11
draik???08:11
OODyeah it's sytem08:12
draikThanks OOD08:12
OODerr.. i think08:12
intelikeyi have two issues which do you want first    grub   or   k3b  ?08:12
draikgruvb08:12
draik*grub08:12
OODyeah, it's system :D08:12
Zuidenalright this is the error i am getting08:13
intelikeyyou would say that.  let me get the error mess08:13
ZuidenNo Implementation: Support for opening ntfs file systems is not implemented yet.08:13
plugswhat does it mean if something has no installation candidate?08:13
sfkhooperhealalot, yes08:13
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intelikeyok  grub-install /dev/hda   yelds this.08:14
intelikeyUnknown partition table signature       5 times.08:15
draikpastebin?08:15
intelikeyThe file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.08:15
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intelikeythat's it   ^08:15
draik1 sec08:15
draikI can send you a copy of mine if you'd like. You can replace yours08:16
intelikeymine yours what ?08:16
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draikstage1 file08:17
intelikeythere is nothing wrong with that file.08:17
intelikeysure send it   but it's for nought.08:17
plugsWhat does this mean? "Package tk has no installation candidate"08:18
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intelikeyi can rm -r /boot/grub     and rerun grub-install   same error and it makes /boot/grub and populates it correctly so the error about  /boot/grub/stage1 is bogus.08:19
ZuidenNo Implementation: Support for opening ntfs file systems is not implemented yet.   <-- i am getting that error while partitioning08:19
intelikeyplugs do an apt-cache search   for the package you want.08:19
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draikhmmm08:21
plugsoh wow, that is quite useful.08:21
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draikI tried to google your issue intelikey, nothing promising thusfar08:21
intelikeythat's the luck i have with google08:21
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draikmaybe...08:22
draikhttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=17568908:22
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intelikeylooking08:22
deindoes anyone have any idea of the stability and performance of kde 3.5.4 compared to .3 on kubuntu?08:23
noiesmodein, running 3.5.4 and seems ok so far haven't had any issues I didnt have before08:24
draikhttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35330508:24
draikThat's another on Ubuntu 5.04 I believe08:24
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draikyup08:24
deincool08:25
deinwhats the repository for it?08:25
noiesmodein, one sec08:25
deink08:25
noiesmodein, this is from my sources.list deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 dapper main deb ftp://bolugftp.uni-bonn.de/pub/kde/stable/3.5.3/kubuntu dapper main08:26
Jucatodein, for KDE 3.5.4 - deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354 dapper main08:26
deinisnt that the repository for 3.5.3?08:26
draikintelikey, is that helpful?08:26
deinok thanks jucato and noiesmo08:26
noiesmodein, holy crap your right08:27
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intelikeyno08:28
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draik2nd link?08:28
intelikeyto both08:29
deinhmm, lots of new stuff in this upgrade08:29
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Ash-FoxMy only annoyane about KDE 3.5.3 is that the bluetooth kioslaves are broken in there.08:29
Jucatolots of new stuff. I had around 150 packages to upgrade08:29
draikintelikey, I don't suppose you understand spanish???08:30
Ash-FoxSo I stick with KDE3.5.2, even though the older Kopete version annoys me with the lack of pirvacy features.08:30
soulriderJucato: so did i, i think that today in updates and progams i needed i downloaded around 500 mb at least08:30
soulriderdraik: need any spanish help? :P08:31
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soulriderhave you guys tried kmule and amule? what do you think is better08:31
Teejay_wpamule08:31
draiksoulrider, nah. I got it08:31
intelikeydraik not enough to call it understanding it.08:31
Ash-FoxWhat legitimate uses does kmule/amule have anyway?08:32
soulriderdoubt it has any08:32
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ollyhi all!08:33
noiesmohi08:33
draikwhat good is an online help man if it links you to dead pages?!?!08:33
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ollysomeone has a hint for me how to use an ipn2200 wlan card under 6.06?08:34
noiesmomaybe ndiswrapper08:34
draikintelikey, here maybe... http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Reinstalling_GRUB08:34
ollyhmhm... have tried the recent windoze drivers with ndiswrapper under suse10.1 - did not work.08:35
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noiesmoolly, install ndisgtk its a gui for ndiswrapper you can then install winxp drivers for your wifi card08:35
ollyis that package included in 6.06?08:35
draik!grub08:35
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto08:35
noiesmoolly, not sure08:35
ollywill check out...08:35
Jucatoexcuse me, what will happen if I connect to a different port in IRC? The defaul it 6667, but the #ubuntu-classroom page says to connect to a specific port. (A bit new to this IRC stuff)08:36
intelikeylooking. draik let me get out of this stinking gui so i can do things.   brb.08:36
noiesmoolly, you should add universe and multiverse to your sources.list /repos then many more packages avail08:36
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ollythanks for that info, noiesmo08:36
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noiesmoolly, np :)08:36
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ollywill use my wired lan then to install and upate ;)08:36
intelikeythis is better.08:36
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noiesmoolly, thats the go. once you get wifi going ditch the wire08:37
ollydoes ndiswrapper work good on amd64 or should i install 32bit version?08:37
noiesmoolly, me only 32bit sory cannot help you there08:38
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Healotthere is a 64-bit version of ndiswrapper08:38
ollynp, wont be a mess to use a 32bit system on a 64bit cpu. ;)08:38
ollyhealot: included in 6.06?08:39
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Healot!info ndiswrapper08:39
ubotuPackage ndiswrapper does not exist in dapper08:39
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Healot!find ndiswrapper08:39
ubotuFound: linux-image-2.6.15-23-386, linux-image-2.6.15-23-686, linux-image-2.6.15-23-k7, linux-image-2.6.15-23-server, linux-image-2.6.15-23-server-bigiron (and 12 others)08:39
farousndiswrapper-utils08:39
draikintelikey, did it work for you?08:39
Healotwhy they put package name like that?08:39
abattoirolly: you'll need a 64-bit version of your windows driver08:39
ollyhm ok... thats obvious then. ;)08:40
farousi guess the module itself is in the linux-restricted-modules08:40
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intelikeynope.08:40
farousthe utils is just utilities to use the ndiswrapper08:40
draiksorry intelikey08:41
intelikeyhehhe  thanks for trying.08:41
draikwhat's your k3b issue?08:41
intelikeythe closest thing to actually being in the ball park of helping what this message in one of those links.08:42
intelikey If you get an error that says The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read08:42
intelikey   correctly, it probably means that your fstab/mtab is incorrect for some08:42
intelikey   reason and needs to be fixed up. These files are /etc/mtab and /etc/fstab.08:42
ollythanks so far, folx... i bbl - have to reboot my laptop to test that stuff out. see ya! :)08:42
noiesmoolly, cya08:42
intelikey   Edit them and make sure they point to the correct partitions,but there is nothing wrong with my m/fs-tab08:42
intelikeyi think i see there why it may be failing tho.08:43
draikwhy?08:43
intelikeylet me test something.     i mount some disks in fstab08:43
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draiktest away like a mad genius08:43
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intelikeywell now i'm mad   ;/08:45
intelikeydon't know about the other part.08:45
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intelikeyi was thinking that maybe commenting out the referances to hard disks in the fstab would help.   but alas it made no differance at all08:46
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intelikeythe k3b issue.08:48
draikk08:48
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intelikeycdrecord will be run without root privileges08:48
intelikeyIt is highly recommended to configure cdrecord to run with root privileges. Only then cdrecord runs with high priority which increases the overall stability of the burning process. Apart from that it allows changing the size of the used burning buffer. A lot of user problems could be solved this way. This is also true when using SuSE's resmgr.08:48
intelikeyis there anyway to get around that ^  ?08:49
draikI've never come across that issue08:49
draikwhat were you trying to do?08:49
farousintelikey: i alwasy use it as regular user never had any prob and i read this warning before did not make a diff to me08:50
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intelikeyyou've never mounted your partitions nosuid either08:50
farousno i never mounted my part this way08:50
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intelikeyfarous ok i'll ignore the warning...   but i hate making frisbies08:51
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pablohello... I have a problem with kde 3.5.4! Apparence in System Setting crash! Solution?08:51
intelikeyfarous care to stab at my grub issue ?08:52
intelikey:)08:52
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farousintelikey: i just reply to what i know08:52
farousintelikey: and you need to learn to be less aggressive08:52
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ErtainI can't seem to copy files off a DVD+RW disc.  I'm positive the disc doesn't have any errors, yet it keeps giving me I/O errors.  I think it's how my drive configuration is set up.  Any ideas?08:53
intelikeyfarous aggressive ?08:53
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farousintelikey: ok seems my mistake thought your are being sarcastic08:54
farousenglish is not my first lang08:54
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intelikeyErtain what does   mount   tell you  (only the line that pertains to the dvd)08:54
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intelikeyfarous understood.08:55
Ertainintelikey: what do you mean exactly?  When I do the "mount" command?  Since it auto-mounts.08:55
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noiesmook for some reason every now and then my kde stuffs up. the only solution so far is to remove my ~/.kde/share folder and its all good again how can i track whats getting chanhged in my ~/.kde/share folder t find a solution08:56
intelikeyhmmm does automounding not make notes in mtab ?    i don't use any automounting...08:56
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intelikeynoiesmo you could copy it when it's working correctly and diff it.08:57
intelikeyif it changes often that wouldn't help tho08:58
noiesmointelikey, good one thats the go. thanks man08:58
noiesmohey its a start08:58
pabloremove this directory isn't a solution... the problem is libc and a thread08:58
noiesmopablo, you talking to me08:59
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farousintelikey: you are member of plugdev group08:59
intelikeyi don't think so.08:59
farousthis will automount for example jumpdrives08:59
ErtainHere's the line from /etc/mtab: "/dev/hdh /media/hdh udf rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=007,iocharset=utf8 0 0"  Also, here's some info from dmesg: http://pastebin.ca/11639008:59
farousintelikey: by default you are try groups in a term08:59
pabloexcuse me... sorry...08:59
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intelikeyfarous i'm not.   i was a little supprised to see that the group exists on this system.09:00
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_kalmhello09:01
farousintelikey: can you mount through pmount?09:01
intelikeyfarous not as user09:01
rr73night intelikey09:01
_kalmhow do you change your username in Linux? (or kubuntu)09:01
intelikeycan't mount without root permission09:01
farousintelikey: ok you are not member of the group then you are right09:01
intelikeyrr73 peace kid.09:01
rr73kid?09:02
rr73;)09:02
ErtainIt keeps saying that the tray is open, even when it's not.09:02
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intelikeyyes.   i'm more than twice your age remember.09:02
rr73damn ur old09:02
Healotold doesn't mean mature right?09:02
noiesmointelikey, your only as old as the woman you feel09:03
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rr73nit necesereky09:03
intelikeyfarous i can add myself to plugdev group   and pmount still wont work here.09:03
farousintelikey: that is really strange09:03
rr73*not09:03
farousintelikey: pmount /dev/sda1 for example09:03
farousand it will be mounted under media09:04
farous/media/09:04
_kalmhow can you change your username???09:04
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farous_kalm: in irrc i presumed09:04
uniqintelikey: after adding your self to the plugdev group you woiuld have to re-login.09:04
ErtainI wonder why it keeps saying "tray open" for my drive?09:04
intelikey-bash: /usr/bin/pmount: Permission denied09:04
_kalmno in linux09:04
_kalmhow do i change my username in linux (the one i log in with)09:05
_kalmhow do i change my username in linux (the one i log in with)09:05
_kalmXD09:05
farous_kalm: you need to add a new user then09:05
intelikeyuniq it wont matter,   i can reboot and it wont change the fact that mounting requires root perms.  and this is a nosuid system.09:05
farousintelikey: oh did you log out and in again09:05
uniqintelikey: nosuid system.. -rwsr-xr-- 1 root plugdev 35K 2006-07-07 20:59 /usr/bin/pmount09:06
farousintelikey: after adding yourself to the group09:06
intelikeywhat part of "it can not be done"  are the two of you missing ?09:06
farousintelikey: you said you just added your self to the plugev group. for this to work you need to restart your session did you do that09:07
draikI think it's the NOT part09:07
intelikeyi think so.09:07
draiksorry, I don't mean to instigate09:07
farousintelikey: remeber we can not see what you are doing and we are just trying to help09:07
uniq_kalm: changing username is easy. 'sudo usermod -l newname oldname' that will however only change the login name, not the home directory name.09:07
_kalmTHANK YOU09:08
intelikeyfarous may i ask what you are trying to help me do ?    the issue i have is 'grub' wont install.   i use mount just fine.   (but only as root)09:09
uniq_kalm: to change homedir you can use 'sudo usermod -m -d /home/newuser olduser' contents will be moved.09:09
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intelikeyuniq it doesn't have to be in /home  you know.09:10
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uniqintelikey: doesn't have to, but i use that in examples as that is the default expected, and most common place to have user files.09:11
intelikeyyeah.  just being pedantic i guess.09:11
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uniqwhat was your mounting problem again?09:12
intelikeylol whos ?09:12
uniqpmount needs to be suid so running nosuid will effectively disable it for everyone except root.09:12
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intelikeycorrect.  i think i said that   at least in effact  about three times now.09:13
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uniqintelikey: ok, just figured you had a problem, didn't read enought backlog to understand the whole situation. :)09:15
intelikeyuniq i did ask a question eariler.    anyone know why grub-install /dev/hda   pukes out "Unknown partition table signature" < X5  and then "The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly."     got any insight on that ?09:15
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ErtainBtw, mtab says that my /dev/hdh drive, which is the DVD+RW drive, has "nosuid".09:17
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uniqintelikey: not really.. i seldom use grub as i primarily run powerpc.09:18
intelikeyi want to say i'm sorry to farous and uniq if i sounded, in anyway unthankful for the attempt to help.   but it seemed kinda odd to me that you both decided that i should fix pmount and were insistant about it.    thanks for trying guys.09:18
farousintelikey: i understand the frustration of getting offtopic answers :)09:19
uniqno problem, i think: 09:05 < intelikey> farous i can add myself to plugdev group   and pmount still wont work here.09:19
uniqtriggered my "helpfullness"09:19
intelikeyErtain my whole system has nosuid.  keeps normal users from doing anything as root.09:19
intelikeyah yes uniq i can see how comming in at that point would.09:20
ErtainHmm... I wonder how I can use "nosuid", yet also be able to use root stuff?09:21
uniqintelikey: over to your actual problem. does 'fdisk /dev/hda' or 'cfdisk /dev/hda' give any errors? or is it just grub?09:22
intelikeyErtain only one two ways i know of.   set a root password.  so you can login as root  (not the best for online safty)  or setup init to open a root console for you (not the best for hands on safty)09:22
intelikeyuniq it's just grub09:23
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Tm_Tintelikey: how root account is unsafe for online safety?09:25
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intelikeyif you need security both for the hands on user and the online user use suid and BE SURE TO SETUP SUDO   the default way is basicly #1 user = root the second.  i.e. root jounior.09:25
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intelikeyTm_T the root account is the primary target of script kiddies trying to root your box.   unless they know you use ubuntu.  then they hang in the #*buntu channels look at user names and try to crack the password of the user names which is generally much easier.09:27
Tm_Tintelikey: well, still don't understand how root account is any more dangerous09:27
intelikeymore than ?09:28
Tm_Tintelikey: I mean, ofcourse we se ssh to not allow root logins ;)09:28
Tm_Ts/se/set/09:28
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Tm_Tintelikey: so, I don't see the problem ;)09:29
intelikeyif you can loging as root  then any access over ssh/telnet/vnc... becomes an access point to run scripts from.09:29
Tm_Tintelikey: that's why we set ssh to not allow root logins, it's not wise anyway09:29
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Tm_Tand nobody will login to my pc as root here locally except me09:30
intelikeyTm_T may i ask one question ?09:30
Tm_Tsure :)09:31
intelikeyyour boast of security.  is that a challange ?09:31
Tm_Thmm? no, I just test your theory ;)09:31
intelikeyk just wondering.09:32
Tm_Twithout debate you can't just say things as "true"09:32
Tm_Teverything has to be tested09:32
wolfmanz108.336 under vmsize is about 108 mesg correct?09:33
Tm_Tintelikey: so, we agree that root account has some security risks but some of them can be handled easily?09:33
ErtainAnyway, I still don't know why I can't copy files off of my DVD+RW disc.  Then again, I don't have an entry for it in /etc/fstab.09:33
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Tm_T!fstab09:34
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions09:34
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intelikeyTm_T take it up with the ubuntu team.  they make the claim that sudo is safer than root passwd.  and will fight you tooth and nail about it.    i say sudo can be safer than a root password but the default root jounior (ubuntu way) is not.        and bottom line is this.  if i have hands on.  i won any box.  no debate.09:35
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Tm_Tintelikey: =)09:36
=== noiesmo not like the sudo way thinks old school root is better
Tm_Tintelikey: yeah, sudo is safer for new users because atleast you have to enter password once in a while09:36
Tm_Tand then you have time to think what you're doing09:36
Tm_Tnoiesmo: I use both, in their own usage09:37
intelikeyhehhe so you say.   i'm not a new user so i can't argue that.09:37
noiesmothey should ad a password strength feature to it so if the users password is weak it get s rejected09:37
Tm_Tintelikey: I'm very new, only 2 years or so ;)09:37
plugshow do i execute a shell script? when i click it, it opens it in Kate.09:37
intelikeynoiesmo mandrake has/had that for ever.09:38
noiesmoone place i work there are 1200 users and there passwords are the pits like a name with a number what the?09:38
Jucatonoiesmo: but what if the password that they want, or the password that they've been using in other systems is weak? will they be forced to memorize a new one?09:38
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noiesmointelikey, say no more mandrake suxs09:38
intelikeynoiesmo yeah almost as bad as *buntu  :)09:39
enzonoiesmo, I worked at a place where EU's passwords were their names plus their cube number09:39
noiesmoJucato, boo hoo so what I remember 16 caracter passwords09:39
Healotit's the users who suck09:39
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intelikeyHealot :)09:39
noiesmomost problems occur between the seat and the keyboard ie users09:39
Healotmigrators :_09:39
intelikeylol09:40
plugshow do i execute a shell script instead of opening it in Kate? does that even make sense?09:40
intelikeyyeah.  every one should have to stick with the linux they started with.09:40
Jucatowell I can't remember that much. so I guess I'm the problem, along with some other people who don't have the same memory as you?09:40
Healotplugs, in terminal09:40
faroususers are not admins they need a passwd that is easy to remember. And worse thing happen it won't matter they do not save important info anyway. They reinstall the operating system if they face a prob they can not deal with09:40
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intelikeyplugs right click on it.09:40
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intelikeymy mother has her password pasted on the monitor with masking tape  lol09:42
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noiesmoJucato, don't take offence, its just a general statement09:42
Healotshe used glue?09:42
noiesmointelikey, Healot lol09:42
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noiesmoJucato, and i'm getting drunk and thought i'd stir some ;)09:43
intelikeyanyone new idelers want to tackel a grub error ?09:43
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intelikeyidlers even09:44
Tm_Tintelikey: throw it09:44
intelikeyuniq i did ask a question eariler.    anyone know why grub-install /dev/hda   pukes out "Unknown partition table signature" < X5  and then "The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly."     got any insight on that ?09:44
JucatoI didn't take offence. There was a time that I could memorize 30 11-digit phone numbers. Now I can't anymore... :(09:44
plugshealot, what do i put into the terminal?09:45
intelikeyuniq sorry didn't remember that having your nick name prepended.09:45
noiesmoJucato, kool no offence intended :)09:45
Tm_Tintelikey: hilarious09:45
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intelikeyplugs sh filename.sh09:45
Jucatonoiesmo: no offense taken.09:46
plugsoh right09:46
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intelikeyTm_T while you giggle at it,  got any thoughts about it ?09:46
JucatoI think you can also make scripts execute from within the GUI by making them executable (chmod +x), right?09:47
Tm_Tintelikey: I'm thinking... so grub claims that before it gives any menu or is that after you select kernel?09:47
intelikeyTm_T that is (as stated above) when i run grub-install /dev/hda09:48
Tm_Taaaah09:48
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plugscan i create a shell script that will do something in a different directory?09:49
Tm_Tintelikey: very interesting and very unknown to me, sorry :)09:49
plugsoh wait09:49
Tm_Ts/:)/:(09:49
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noiesmointelikey, googled you error check this maybe http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Restore_Grub09:49
intelikeyplugs absoposalutly09:49
Jucatointelikey: lol!09:50
plugsintelikey, how would i do that?09:51
intelikeynoiesmo did you even look at that page ?09:51
intelikeyplugs any commands you would type on the command line,  just put them in the script.09:52
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noiesmointelikey, sorry man I'm going to sit quitly now and drink my blue label johnny walker sorry09:52
plugsah alright.09:52
intelikeynoiesmo in fact i think i wrote that one.09:52
noiesmointelikey, ha hah09:52
intelikeynoiesmo well anyway,  it's no help but thanks for trying.09:53
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noiesmointelikey, a for effort hey lol ;)09:53
waylandbillwhat does it mean when packages are "held back" ?09:53
Jucatowaylandbill: it means that, for some reason, they won't be installed or upgraded, AFAIK09:54
intelikeywaylandbill means there are newer ones but you are not getting them09:54
noiesmointelikey, why not ^^^^^^^^^^^^^09:54
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waylandbillit happened when I added the 3.5.4 mirror on kubuntu.org09:54
intelikeywaylandbill you can do an  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade    and get them.       the updater will not by default update the system, only the apps on it.09:55
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Tm_Twaylandbill: that means there's something that prevents from upgrading, dist-upgrade should solve it09:55
mark_hello there is there anyone can help me to configure my printer?09:56
mark_hello there is there anyone can help me to configure my printer?09:56
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intelikeythat something can be as simple as the package being part of the core system.09:56
Tm_Tmark_: no, if you keep repeating ;(09:56
Tm_T!printer09:56
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows09:56
draikgoodnight all...09:56
noiesmodraik, nite nite09:56
Jucatogood night draik09:56
draikintelikey, I hope you find what you need for your computer09:56
Tm_Tintelikey: waylandbill: it's kdelibs-bin package09:56
draiknite noiesmo09:56
draiknight Jucato09:56
intelikeydraik thanks,  and peace be with you.09:56
draiknight intelikey09:57
Jucatowaylandbill: If you're using Adept, click on Full Upgrade. it's the equivalent of sudo apt-get dist-upgrade09:57
waylandbillTm_t: Dist-Upgrade is doing it now. thanks.09:57
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draikor morning/afternoon for whatever your timezone suits you09:57
mark_i already configure it in gui i but there is      no response on the printer09:57
Tm_Twaylandbill: np, just remember doublecheck what dist-upgrade will do before accept it ;)09:57
noiesmomark_, what the make and model of printer plse09:57
intelikeymark_ it's not paused is it ?     i'm no cups expert by any means but i have seen that problem on my own system.09:58
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waylandbillTm_t it looks like it's updated the stuff it downloaded.09:59
Tm_Twaylandbill: good09:59
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waylandbilldownloaded and held back that is09:59
Jucatothat's good. You'll probably experience a little bump in the road with KAudioCreator later on10:00
Tm_Thehe10:00
plugsOkay. I have my shell script. When i type sh script.sh in the terminal, it works. However, i want to be able to run it by clicking on it. I tried telling it to run .sh in Konsole, but when i try that i get some wacky error. what do i do?10:00
intelikeychmod 755 script.sh10:00
intelikeymake it executable ^10:00
plugswhere do i put that?10:01
unix_infidelplugs: type it into konsole.10:01
Tm_Tplugs: well, rightclick it, -> properties -> set it as executable or do as intelikey said10:01
plugsi'll try10:01
uniqplugs: make it executable. in konsole 'chmod +x file.sh'  or right click with konqueror,properties and permissions tick executable.10:01
intelikeyor right click it and set the properties10:01
plugsoh i gotcha10:01
Tm_T=)10:01
unix_infidelthere should be a bot fact for this.10:01
plugslemme try that10:01
Tm_T!exec10:01
ubotuI know nothing about exec - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu10:01
Tm_Thmh10:02
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Tm_Toh well, doesn't matter :p10:02
plugsAw yeah~10:02
unix_infideltoo bad i cant just manifest things in IRC>10:02
intelikeyTm_T i recall when ubotu was pretty handy.  now days it's a joke bot.10:02
Tm_Tintelikey: indeed10:02
unix_infidelintelikey: i remember when there were no bots available.10:03
Tm_Tintelikey: just like me ;)10:03
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Tm_Tunix_infidel: just dummy users? ;)10:03
intelikey:)10:03
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unix_infidelTm_T: the more things change, the more they stay the same.10:03
intelikeyubotu can you help me ?10:03
ubotuI know nothing about can you help me ? - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu10:03
wckdkl0wnanyone here use demonoid?10:03
intelikeyubotu but i dont want to search10:03
ubotuI know nothing about but i dont want to search - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu10:03
unix_infidelintelikey: write a new box.10:04
unix_infidelbot*10:04
uniqwhat's wrong with ubotu anyway?10:04
intelikeyat least the answer is not random  some newbee could talk to that thing for hours.10:04
intelikeythe owner got tired of it saying what people in the channel told it too and fixed it i guess.10:05
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intelikeyubotu myself10:06
ubotuI know nothing about myself - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu10:06
intelikeywell said ^10:06
Jucatoerr...10:06
Jucatopoor bot...10:06
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kubuntutaotaoi want to update to kde 3.5.4, and if i use only deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354/ dapper main in sources.list, has it problem?10:11
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intelikey!kde10:11
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE10:11
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rikiohif i did a fresh install of kubuntu do i have the k desktop10:12
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intelikeykubuntutaotao i've seen several doing that lately  i can't answer for sure but i think you would be ok.10:12
intelikeyrikioh yup10:12
intelikeythe K in kubuntu means KDE + ubuntu10:13
rikiohare there any other programs like adept because i cant ever get it to open anymore10:13
rikiohit just does nothing10:13
dhqhow do i see my ip address and incoming(download) and out going(upload) speed monitor10:13
intelikeysynaptic10:13
uniq!adept crash fix > rikioh10:13
JucatoI've noticed something strange with KDE 3.5.4, but I can't verify if it's only on  my system. Something with the media:/ KIO slave10:14
kubuntutaotaointelikey: ok,i will try it10:14
intelikeyrikioh on the cli  aptitude & apt    are frontends to dpkg = the debian package manager10:15
uniqJucato: can you be more specific about what you've noticed?10:15
rikiohcrash thing didnt help :(10:16
uniqare you in the admin group?10:16
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rikiohim the only user on this computer10:16
rikiohi live alone :)10:16
uniqdoes it work if you go to kmenu -> run command -> type 'kdesu adept' an run?10:16
JucatoSorry, I was typing somewhere else. media:/ no longer showed unmounted drives/partitions. However, it also doesn't show the drives/partitions when I mount them, even if they're mounted correctly (checked in /media). Removable media still behave normally.10:17
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intelikeyrikioh that doesnt matter, are you in the admin group ?     type groups   to find out10:17
intelikeyyou can test sudo with the simple test  sudo echo yes || echo no10:17
rikiohgroups isnt doing anything10:18
rikiohits like its frozen or something10:18
uniqcheck with 'id' then.10:18
cwraigim a big fan of passwd root (your root password here) then you can just su10:18
rikiohthers a bunch of groups10:19
uniqrikioh: if you're the user added during install,  you're in the admin group.10:19
rikiohit says my name as a group and then thers another one for admin10:19
intelikeycwraig i'm  a big fan of init scripts that open a root console for me  :)10:19
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rikioh!pastebin10:19
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)10:19
uniqrikioh: good, then you're in the admin group.10:20
rikiohhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1976010:20
uniqrikioh: did kmenu -> run command -> type 'kdesu adept' an run?10:20
uniqrikioh: do anything?10:20
intelikeyyou can test sudo with the simple test;                                                                                                                sudo echo yes || echo no10:21
rikiohwhen i ran sudo thats what i got uniq10:21
rikiohkdesu adept10:21
rikiohor w/e10:21
rikiohlook at the pastebin10:21
uniqopening..10:21
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rikiohwhat does that mean?10:24
Jucatohmm... a lot of people seem to be getting that error message lately.10:25
rikiohshould i just reboot and try again?10:25
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jacklemorning people10:26
kemorning10:26
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jackleI'm trying to update my kubuntu 606 with adept (dpkg errors), but is getting errors. apt-get upgrade throws 404 file not found. What do you need from me? And what can I possible do?10:28
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kane___jackle: you may need to do apt-get update first10:28
jackleDid that10:28
shadeofgreyhello10:28
shadeofgreyfor the record my name is Chris10:29
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shadeofgreyim an avid ubuntu user but was looking to try something new so i chose kubuntu... would someone please provide me with the following information:10:29
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rikiohok adept is open now10:29
shadeofgrey1)  How does one install packages with KDE?  is apt still valid here or no?  If not then how do i install Nvidia drivers so i have 3d support and how do i install koffice?10:30
keshadeofgrey, just install the kde-desktop10:30
shadeofgreyi think i did10:30
robshadeofgrey, everything you need to know is on http://help.ubuntu.com10:30
shadeofgreydoesnt the defaulty installation of kubuntu come with KDE desktop already installed?10:31
gatekeeperjackle, sounds like it can't find a repo 404 errors are the error you get when you browse to a non-existant web site10:31
DHGEshadeofgrey: U might try Synaptic - more newbie-friendly ;-)10:31
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shadeofgreyi know how to use synaptic10:31
shadeofgreyhow do i install that?10:31
DHGEshadeofgrey: install synaptic??10:31
gatekeepershadeofgrey, apt-get install synaptic10:31
jacklegatekeeper: would disabling a repo work?10:31
rikiohwhat can i use for wmv play back cuz caffein fails to load some wmv.dll  and i downloaded kmplayer and it just says player xine not running10:32
jacklerikioh:  mplayer w32codecs10:32
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gatekeeperjackle, might get rid of the error, if it does you know that is what the problem is, the repo is down of whatever10:33
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ciusbethi dudes10:33
robshadeofgrey, https://help.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/add-applications.html10:33
rikiohjackle is it called something else cuz i cant find that10:33
jacklegatekeeper: tx10:33
ciusbeti could install Win XP and Kubuntu yeeeeeeeeah10:33
gatekeeperjackle, hang on...10:33
jacklerikioh: search for w32codecs in adept10:33
jacklegatekeeper: k10:33
ciusbetone thing10:34
ciusbetits possible install an aplication download and extracting it on a folder?10:34
gatekeeperjackle, does this work? wget -c http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb10:35
ciusbetor only using apt10:35
jacklegatekeeper: jip10:35
Jucatojackie: w32codecs can't be found in Adept or any repository. you have to download the .deb directly from somewhere (looks at gatekeeper)10:36
intelikeyanyone know why grub-install /dev/hda   it pukes out "Unknown partition table signature" < X5  and then "The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly."     got any insight on that ?      repost for new arivals10:36
noiesmolibxine-extracodecs for mp310:37
intelikeyvlc10:37
gatekeeperJucato, they can from the PLF repos here :-) http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories10:37
jackleJucato: I've added additional repositories from ubuntu10:37
noiesmouniverse or multiverse not sure but both are handy repos10:37
JucatoWell, it can't be found in the Ubuntu repos. :-D10:38
shadeofgreythis kde thing is much prettier and morepolished than the gnome edition of ubuntu10:38
shadeofgreyman....10:38
shadeofgreyi might end up a KDE convert10:38
gatekeeperJucato, true because of legal problems10:38
jackleJucato: go to Kmenu, run, "adept" , password , enable multiverse en universe repositories, type in searchbar "w32co" ... the codecs will be there10:38
shadeofgreydo i need to do anything really special to enable dvd  playback capabilities?10:38
shadeofgreyis adept the same thing assynaptic?10:39
Jucatoerr... I know how to do that. I was just pointing out that if rikioh didn't have the extra repos, he/she won't find w32codecs. :-P10:39
gatekeeperjackle, did that command work?10:39
jacklegatekeeper: the wget command did work10:39
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Jucatoshadeofgrey: Adept and Synaptic are slightly, oh so very slightly, similar10:39
gatekeeperjackle, sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb10:40
intelikey!info w32codecs10:40
ubotuPackage w32codecs does not exist in dapper10:40
shadeofgreybut they're both designed to do tghe same trhing right?10:40
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paineshi10:40
shadeofgreyand w32codecs DOES exist in dapper but you have to enable the Seveas repo10:40
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intelikeylol  ubotu   it does.   silly bot.10:41
Jucatoyep, but they do it quite differently10:41
jacklegatekeeper: yes.. but I already have w32codecs, the help was for rikioh10:41
shadeofgreyand i say again...  do i have to do anythiung special to get dvd playback going?10:41
nysosymhi all10:41
imbrandon!info w32codecs seveas-dapper10:41
ubotuPackage w32codecs does not exist in dapper10:41
shadeofgreyand what are the mp3 plsayers available for kde?10:41
imbrandon!info w32codecs dapper-seveas10:41
ubotuw32codecs: win32 binary codecs. In repository Seveas, is optional. Version 1:20060611-0.0 (dapper-seveas), package size 13911 kB, installed size 33488 kB10:41
imbrandon^^10:41
Jucatohmm... poor bot...10:42
rikiohso i gotta activate seaves repo?10:42
intelikeyi don't have any special repos enabled but the w32codecs show up in apt-cache search w32codecs10:42
nysosymi have a big problem but first my system runs with kubuntu 6.06 and KDE3.5.4. My Problem is, that k3b doesn't start, can anyone help me please?10:42
Jucatorikioh: or you could just download it manually from the link that gatekeeper gave10:42
Healot!seveas > rikioh10:42
intelikeyi don't know why the bot is set to lie about it.  copy right issues i suspose10:42
Jucatointelikey: it shows up in  your apt-cache because it's already installed on your system, right?10:42
gatekeeper!sevas > gatekeeper10:42
ubotuI know nothing about sevas  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu10:42
intelikeyJucato i don't think it is.   i'll check.10:43
gatekeeper !seveas > gatekeeper10:43
intelikeyJucato ooops my bad i do have it installed.10:43
gatekeeperhelps when I can type doh10:44
Jucatohehe ^_^10:44
rikiohgatekeeper the  command you gave me dont work10:44
intelikeyforgot about installing that...    and never use it....10:44
shadeofgreyokay more questionms10:44
rikiohdpkg: error processing w32 codecs...blahblah.deb (--install):10:44
gatekeeperrikioh, which one?10:44
shadeofgrey1)  now that ive downlioaded firfox hoe do i make it the default browser?10:44
Jucatoshadeofgrey: in Kubuntu?10:45
rikiohsudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb10:45
intelikeyshadeofgrey if you do you are loosing out on all the konq specials10:45
shadeofgreyjuc:  yes10:45
shadeofgreyint:  like what?10:45
intelikeykonq is intergrated10:45
shadeofgreywhat makes konqueror so special?10:45
intelikeylearn to use it and you'll see.10:46
Healotit konquer :)10:46
gatekeeperrikioh, did you try wget -c http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb10:46
Jucatolike: KIO slaves, split views, embedded viewers, integration w/ the desktop to name a few10:46
Jucatofull customizability, keyboard shortcuts, integration with KDE Wallet Manager10:46
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rikiohi clicked the link and its loading in ark10:46
rikiohi dont know what to do when it does lol10:46
shadeofgreyokay is there a kdemailk program like thunderbird?10:47
uniqkmail10:47
Jucatorikioh: don't click on it. right-click on it and choose Kubuntu Package Menu > Install10:47
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Jucatoshadeofgrey: even better. KMail is just the mail program, but you can use it within Kontact, the whole PIM suite10:47
Jucatosuit*10:47
rikiohi dont have that option10:47
rikiohpackage menu10:48
intelikeykmail  lacked most of the bells and whistles   but is very useful for my needs.10:48
shadeofgreykmail doesnt seem to be present10:48
shadeofgreyits not in the list anyway10:48
shadeofgreyof installed apps10:48
Jucatoyou won't see the menu entry for KMail but it's there. Try launching Kontact and you will see it10:48
intelikeyit's default app    check the terminal  kmail [enter] 10:49
Jucatoyou could still launch it by itself by pressing Alt+F2 and typiing in "kmail"10:49
shadeofgreyjesus....  280 meg in updates already10:50
gatekeeperHealot, are the SeveasPackages any more up to date than the PLF repos?10:50
ciusbet i have a doubt10:50
intelikeywhat are the   #blah   and  !blah  things in the konq address bar again ?10:50
JucatoKIO slaves?10:50
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Ace2007How do i get get konsole to show me what qtdir is?10:50
painesecho $QTDIR10:50
ciusbetits possible download a tar.gzip file, unpack it and install without using apt?10:51
Healotgatekeeper, i don't enough information on that10:51
Ace2007paines: thanks10:51
Jucatointelikey: are you asking for the KIO slaves?10:51
intelikey/exec -o echo $QTDIR10:51
gatekeeperHealot, fair enough, just curious10:51
Ace2007How do i set $QTDIR?10:51
ciusbethi?10:51
intelikeyJucato where it interfaces the man pages and stuff like that ???10:51
Jucatoman:/, info:/, media:/, system:/, home:/, apt:/ (my personal favorite)10:52
intelikeyAce2007 you can export ANYTHING="anything you want it to be"10:52
Ace2007ok thanks10:53
painesAce2007, export QTDIR=/yourdir10:53
intelikeythought there was a short form   #command   for the man command   or something like that10:53
Ace2007thanks10:53
Jucatoman:/insert_command_here10:53
Jucatolike man:/sudo10:53
ciusbetits possible download a tar.gzip file, unpack it and install without using apt? ::DD10:54
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plugshow good is Wine?10:54
intelikeyplugs red or white ?10:54
Jucatociusbet: yes, but you will probably have to compile it yourself10:54
intelikeyit's pretty good but not as good as cadega10:54
plugsred. i can't stand white10:54
ciusbetjucato thx10:54
noiesmoany netjuke users here10:55
ciusbetbut there are, "binary files"10:55
ciusbetin tar.gzip10:55
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ciusbetbut i cant execute it10:55
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intelikeyextract then execute10:55
ciusbetnothing happens10:56
ciusbetfor example10:56
Jucatociusbet:  what are you trying to install anyway?10:56
ciusbetamsn, but now i've installed with adept10:56
ciusbetbut i would like know how to install without it10:56
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ciusbeti've downloaded tar.gzip file for linux10:57
ciusbeti've extracted in a folder10:57
Jucatoand what does it contain?10:57
ciusbetmm10:57
ciusbetso files10:57
ciusbetbin files10:57
ciusbetand folders10:58
intelikeyciusbet normally installing from a tarball means compiling the software your self.   if you have never compiled anything before,  start small.  don't build a kernel the first attempt.10:58
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ciusbetwell, im newbie with linux10:58
ciusbetbut i am programmer10:58
ciusbeti am not newbie at all :D10:58
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Healotciusbet, how about calling yourself a migrator :)10:58
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Jucatociusbet: maybe this can help: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/installingsoftware.php10:59
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Jucatoit has some very basic instructions about the different ways of installing software10:59
ciusbetoh lot of thx10:59
ciusbet;)10:59
intelikeyciusbet building from tarballs generally consists  of something like this.   tar -xzf tarball.tgz ;cd tarball/ ;./configure ;make ;sudo make install     <--- where  ; is a new line10:59
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ciusbetaha11:00
ciusbeti see11:00
ciusbetthx intelikey11:00
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Ed_Lprobably a dumb question, but what's the Konsole equivilent to tracert in windows?11:01
gatekeeperciusbet, sounds like you where trying to do things the hard way11:01
ciusbetehm yes11:01
intelikeybut any given tarball may have special scripts in it.   and README files    like   INSTALL  would be a readme (all caps)   and  userinstall.sh  would be and install script.11:01
ciusbetaha11:01
uniqEd_L: traceroute, you might have to install it first. 'sudo apt-get install traceroute'11:01
Jucatohe's just trying to learn. he said he already installed aMSN through Adept11:01
Ed_Lthanks11:01
ciusbetthis is my first time using ubuntu11:01
ciusbetbut11:01
ciusbeti love learn11:02
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gatekeeperciusbet, some usefull bit & pieces http://za1012001.googlepages.com/home11:02
ciusbetand i see that all of you love learn, and help a lot :D11:02
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gatekeeperciusbet, something I threw together11:02
intelikeyEd_L traceroute    or tracepath   both are linux standards.11:02
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locobladeI have kubuntu on a small partition on an external harddrive, it was booting up fine but now it wont?11:02
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ciusbetthx gatekeeper11:03
ciusbet:)11:03
locobladethe only thing that changed was I copied a load of files onto the other partition on the drive (windows)11:03
intelikey!cli11:03
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands11:03
intelikeyciusbet and Ed_L the link is for you ^11:03
gatekeeperciusbet, yw :-) always like to help a fellow programmer11:03
ciusbethehe :D:D11:04
ciusbetnice ppl in this channel11:04
ciusbeti love linux and linux users11:04
locobladejaja yeah11:04
ciusbet:D11:04
Ed_Lindeed :)11:04
locobladei agree with that11:04
Jucato:-D11:04
locobladei would have thought they'd be tired of me by now11:04
gatekeeperanother convert :-)11:04
ciusbetnow i will become a free programmer11:04
intelikeyciusbet :)        you'll get over it quickly enough...11:04
Jucatoone step closer to world domination!!! ehehe11:05
ciusbeti hope that11:05
ciusbetwell, excuse me all my bad english11:05
Jucatociusbet: I might be joining your ranks soon :-D11:05
ciusbetim spanish11:05
shadeofgreyokay guys11:05
shadeofgreyi need more help11:05
ciusbet:D11:05
intelikeyciusbet ah  there is also a #ubuntu-es   you might check out.  :)11:05
gatekeeperciusbet, are there many spanish programming jobs, would not mind moving, language is my only problem at the moment11:06
shadeofgrey1.)  How do I set up my kubuntu system to automatically mount my secondary disk that holds all my mp3s and stuff so i can listen tio my music11:06
locobladespains a lovely place11:06
shadeofgreyfurthermore whats the best mp3 player for this os?11:06
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ciusbetubuntu-es nice nice11:06
uniqshadeofgrey: amarok is the best mp3 player.11:06
locobladeshade I like xmms11:06
gatekeeper!fstab shadeofgrey11:06
intelikeyshadeofgrey add a line in /etc/fstab     man fstab11:06
ubotuI know nothing about fstab shadeofgrey - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu11:06
ciusbeti will use both channels11:07
gatekeeper!fstab > shadeofgrey11:07
ciusbeti like learn english too11:07
ciusbet:D11:07
gatekeeperooops11:07
intelikey!vlc11:07
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs11:07
ciusbetthx all11:07
shadeofgrey2.)  How do i change the default color scheme in koffice -- i cant stand white background11:07
Jucatoshadeofgrey: launch System Settings and go to Disks & Filesystem11:07
shadeofgreyi have glaucoma and that hurts my eyes like hell11:07
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intelikeyshadeofgrey and the phrase 'best blah' is not a linux term.   best is subjective.   linux lives in diversity land.  so best is not a linux term.11:08
locobladeanyone have any idea why linux would stop booting off a usb harddrive?11:08
ciusbetnow i'll try to install Gambas11:08
ciusbetand nvidia-gxl11:08
ciusbetglx11:08
Jucatoshadeofgrey: Enter Administrator mode. Look for the partition you want to mount automatically. Right-click it and choose modify, then check the "enable at boot" option (or was it enable at startup?)11:08
intelikeylocoblade pluged into the same port ?11:09
locobladethe partition is still set to active under disk management in windows11:09
shadeofgreyhoiw do i enter administrator mode11:09
locobladeyeah11:09
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intelikeylocoblade idk.11:09
Jucatoshadeofgrey: click on the Administrator Mode button. it will ask for your password11:09
locobladehmm11:09
intelikeylocoblade what does it do ?11:10
shadeofgreywheres the admin mode buttomn?11:10
gatekeepershadeofgrey, sudo from the cli or kdesu if you are running a gui program like kate11:10
locobladeit just boots into the os on the main harddrive as if the usb one wasnt plugged in11:10
Jucatoshadeofgrey: supposedly at the bottom of the window11:10
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intelikeylocoblade only thing i would know to check would be the bios.11:11
gatekeepershadeofgrey, cli does not give any feedback when entering passwords11:11
locobladethe last time kubuntu came up it just hang at one point in the bootup sequence11:11
locobladesomething about root11:11
locobladeand then nothing11:11
locobladethe bios is definitely not the problem11:12
intelikeyunable to mount root partition blah blah blah  ?11:12
locobladecould be11:12
locobladei knew i should have written it down11:12
locobladeit was late so i just went to bed11:12
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locobladenow I've forgotten what it said11:12
shadeofgreyi dont see administrator mode anywhere11:12
shadeofgreyhow do i launch it from cmdlijne?11:12
shadeofgreyim really sorry everybody. i have no idea how to use kde at all11:13
gatekeepershadeofgrey, launch what?11:13
intelikeywell that sujests a change in the bios addressing or (and this is the one you don't want)  the usb cradle/hd dying.11:13
Jucatogatekeeper: I was instructing him to launch System Settings > Disks & Filesystems11:13
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locobladeusb hd is working fine, im using it now11:13
gatekeeperJucato, I will leave you to it then :-) sorry11:14
intelikeyi only know what it sujests. locoblade11:14
Jucatogatekeeper: no it's ok. I'm not perfect :-P11:14
shadeofgreyokay i found the right place finally11:14
intelikeythere are always other posobilities11:14
locobladei dont blame you intel :)11:14
Jucatoshadeofgrey: you found the button?11:15
locobladewhat I'm thinking is after booting back into windows and copying those files that windows changed something on the harddrive so it wont boot11:15
intelikeypossable   possably    possability     crap i can't spell that.11:16
locobladeyou know the way windows is11:16
shadeofgreyyeah now i see the disk that i want to enable at bootup its in a list11:16
shadeofgreyi shouild double click it right?11:16
intelikeyhehhe i'm going looking for ispell.....11:16
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Jucatoshadeofgrey: right-click11:16
shadeofgreyit says modify or delete11:17
shadeofgreyi want modify yes?11:17
Jucatoshadeofgrey: yes modify11:17
locobladehave you any ideas gatekeeper?11:17
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shadeofgreynothings happening11:18
intelikeythere are always other possibilities       <--- may not be able to spell it but i can script a spell checker into it   lol11:18
Jucatoshadeofgrey: a dialog box should pop up11:18
locobladeyeah im sure it's really simple11:18
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locobladeand i think that was the right spelling :)11:19
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shadeofgreyits not working11:19
intelikeyyes (possibility) is spelled correctly.11:19
locobladehaha11:19
intelikey/bin/sh: ---: No such file or directory11:20
Jucatoshadeofgrey: wait, have you been able to mount it before?11:20
intelikey /spell possibility   <--- this yelds ^ that11:20
shadeofgreyyeah sure11:20
shadeofgreyi mount it all the time in regular ubuntu11:20
Jucatois it mounted now?11:20
locobladeis shade having the same problem as me?11:20
locobladelol11:20
gatekeeperlocoblade, most likely your file system has got corrupted, assuming the USB still works ok11:20
locobladeyeah thats really what it looks like11:21
locobladewhy would that happen?11:21
ciusbetwhen i install something with apt, i must restart?11:21
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locobladejust x-server11:21
Jucatociusbet: nope. not unless you installed/upgraded a new kernel11:21
ciusbetjucato, ok11:21
ciusbetbut, i cant find the new software11:21
locobladeciusbet you need to log out and restart x-server11:22
ciusbetaah ook locoblade11:22
Jucatociusbet:  err... it's one of Kubuntu's bugs, I think11:22
shadeofgreyokay if i try and mount the disk i get the error "cant find /dev/hdb1 in etc/fstab"11:22
locobladeit comes up after you do that in the menu11:22
Jucatociusbet: what did you install, btw?11:22
ciusbetthanks11:22
ciusbeti0ve installed11:22
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ciusbeti've installed11:22
gatekeeperlocoblade, that sort of thing can happen at any time, may be a bad piece of memory on your USB stick, or something manged to somehow write when it shouldn't11:22
ciusbetGambas software11:22
ciusbetand nvidia glx11:22
shadeofgreywhat do i need to do to add the drive to my fstab list?11:22
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intelikeyciusbet kernel has to be booted.  xorg   or kde would need a restart of the x server or logout and back in.    everything else  with the exception of something like  libc   would be ready for use upon install11:23
aegeanlinuxhey MilhousePunkRock, hows it going ?11:23
locobladegate it's not the first time it's happened11:23
intelikeythis is not M$ reboot11:23
Jucatoah you do need to restart X11:23
ciusbetaaha11:23
ciusbetheeheh11:23
locobladeit's about the 3rd time this same problem has ccurred11:23
locobladeand it doesnt take long11:23
ciusbetok i'll do it11:23
ciusbettxh11:23
Jucatoerr... I'm not an expert in adding fstab entries. Mine's a mess11:24
locobladethe thing is i was booting off it fine and restarting and booting11:24
locobladeno problems11:24
MilhousePunkRockHey aegeanlinux! Everything's fine here, I just installed additional 256 MB RAM in my Laptop... :-D11:24
Jucatocan someone help shadeofgrey? I'm no fstab expert...11:24
intelikeyJucato fstab is pretty streight forward    what you need.11:24
intelikey?11:24
aegeanlinuxYeah? Is it more stable now?11:24
locobladethen as soon as i take it back into windows to copy a few files onto a ntfs partition then this happens11:24
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Jucatointelikey: not me, shadeofgrey11:24
aegeanlinuxMilhousePunkRock: Is it like a rock ?11:24
gatekeeperlocoblade, keep a backup of what's on it then just go to your backup when it happens, maybe time to buy another USB stick, or pay carefull attention to what you are doing when it happens in an attept to locate the problem11:24
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locobladeyeah11:25
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intelikeyshadeofgrey give me the specs if you know them,   i'll give you a line for the fstab11:25
DHGEshadeofgrey: boot a live CD - look at the fstab that will be generated - save the line you are interested in - implant that line in ypour fstab11:25
MilhousePunkRockaegeanlinux: Actually I don't really notice a big difference yet... Except that progams start a lot faster...11:25
locobladewould windows change stuff on it so that it wouldn't boot?11:25
intelikeyif you don't know them  i'll give you some commands to run to find them.11:25
uniqshadeofgrey: is it /dev/hdb1 ? what is the filesystem? where do you want to mount it?11:25
aegeanlinuxMilhousePunkRock: is that not a good enough reason in itself ?11:25
Ace2007Hi again, i'm trying to compile vlc but it won't find qt: i've used "export QTDIR=/usr/share/qt3" and "./configure  --enable-qte  --with-qte=/usr/share/qt3"  but it still says:    checking for qt.h... no                     configure: error: echo "Cannot find QT Embedded development headers."11:26
shadeofgreyyeah its dev/hdb1 -- but the problem is i cant remember what type of filesystem it is.  it might be ext2 or 311:26
gatekeeperlocoblade, you booting from the stick and running linux?11:26
intelikeyAce2007 why compile vlc ?  it's in the repos.11:26
locobladeit seems like there's a little switch that's been pushed so that the drive wont boot11:26
locobladeyeah11:26
shadeofgreyokayt heres what i did in regular ubuntu11:26
aegeanlinuxAce2007: are you trying to build with QT or QTE ??11:26
shadeofgreyi created a directory called /mnt/filedump/11:27
intelikeyshadeofgrey run this      fdisk -l /dev/hdb11:27
Ace2007intelikey: The new version has flv support and i've added wmv9 playback11:27
aegeanlinuxbecause you should say --enable-qt --disable-qte11:27
MilhousePunkRockaegeanlinux: That's probably the biggest change, yeah. It felt as if it booted a little faster too, but that might just have been imagination11:27
aegeanlinuxqte is for mobile devices ;)11:27
shadeofgreythen i mounted the disk every time the sysstem booted by hand --all i had to do was go in through Administrate->Disks11:27
uniqAce2007: do you have libqt3-mt-dev installed?11:27
Ace2007aegeanlinux: There is a difference?11:27
Ace2007uniq: yup11:27
aegeanlinuxqte is for Linux hand helds ;) so yes Ace200711:27
intelikeyAce2007 ah ok.11:27
Ace2007aegeanlinux: I'll try that now11:28
aegeanlinuxKK ;)11:28
gatekeeperlocoblade, not likely11:28
locobladeok11:29
shadeofgreyokay i tried the fdisk command that didnt wiork11:29
shadeofgreyit said cannot open hdb111:29
aegeanlinuxAce2007: does it configure?11:29
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locobladeso what would you do?11:29
Jucatoshadeofgrey: try fdisk -l  (small letter L)11:29
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intelikeyshadeofgrey not hdb1        fdisk -l /dev/hdb11:29
shadeofgreyits not hdb -- its hdb111:30
uniqshadeofgrey: ok, you can mount it manually the way you alway do. then open konsole and run 'mount', then you will get a list of all mounted partitions and their filesytems.11:30
intelikeyif you don't want help, i can take a hint.11:30
gyuszihello! can someone please tell me how do i set the konqueror window to remember the size and position?11:30
gatekeeperlocoblade, keep a close eye on it see if you see a pattern, if you have a backup then that will be the fastest way to get back up and running11:30
locobladethats kind of a roundabout solution11:30
shadeofgreythe problm with mounting manually is i dont know what kind of filedsystem it is11:30
shadeofgreyhang on11:30
Jucatogyuszi: press Alt+F3 > Advanced > Special Window Settings11:31
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locobladei mean the same thing has happened with different size partitions in different locations on the disk11:31
gyuszi10x11:31
uniqshadeofgrey: when you know what filesystem it is, this is the line you need to add to fstab: "/dev/hdb1 /mnt/filedump ext3 defaults 0 0" (given ext3 is your filesystem. replace 3 with 2 if you have ext2).11:31
Jucatogyuszi: the in the geometry tab, check Position and Size and set them to remember11:31
shadeofgreyokay nothing happened with fdisk -l11:31
Ace2007aegeanlinux: Thanks it configured11:32
locobladeand as far as I see as soon as I load into windows something happens11:32
aegeanlinux:D Ace2007, now you learnt something :D11:32
locobladeso that it wont boot from the usb drive again11:32
locobladewindows is on a sata harddrive on the actual computer btw11:32
locobladenot the usb one11:32
shadeofgreywhere is fstab located again?11:32
uniqshadeofgrey: /etc/fstab11:33
Jucatoshadeofgrey: /etc/fstab11:33
aegeanlinux /etc/fstab11:33
aegeanlinuxlol11:33
intelikeyshadeofgrey must not be hdb     try    sudo fdisk -l     <--- that should list all partitions  search through the output.11:33
Jucato:-D11:33
w00thello11:33
w00ti need some help11:33
w00t:)11:33
Ace2007aegeanlinux: Yup sure did, i wish i'd have asked two days ago11:33
w00ti want to install wine11:33
intelikeyshadeofgrey /etc/fstab11:33
w00tsome one tell  me i hve to type apt-get install wine11:33
aegeanlinuxAce2007: I am always in #AegeanLinux ;)11:34
w00tthat realy don't work11:34
shadeofgreyokay -- /dev/hdb1               1      238216   120060832+  83  Linux11:34
intelikeyshadeofgrey you can specify   'auto'   for the filesystem type in fstab.11:34
Jucatoshadeofgrey: it's ext3 AFAIK (83 Linux right?)11:34
uniqshadeofgrey: fdisk doesn't know anything about filesystems, only partition types. Do as i told you earlier.11:34
w00ti have downloaded it11:34
shadeofgreyid is 8311:34
aegeanlinuxAce2007: Feel free to send me a Logitec G-15 Keyboard for me helping  you :P11:34
intelikeyif it's ext2 it will mount ext2 if it's ext3 it will mount ext3   if it's rieserfs.....11:34
intelikeyuse auto11:35
w00tbut i don't know what to do ow?11:35
w00tcan any body help me?11:35
shadeofgreyokay hang on11:35
RawSewagesudo apt-get install wine11:35
locobladewell thanks to all for the help11:35
Jucatow00t: you can only apt-get wine if you have the universe repository enabled11:35
shadeofgreyhow do i edit /etc/fstab "kate /etc/fstab" ??11:35
Jucatoshadeofgrey: right-click on fstab, Actions > Edit as Root11:36
locobladegate i'll try that backup idea and hopefully really pinpoint the problem11:36
intelikeyshadeofgreay like this.               echo '/dev/hdb1 /mnt/filedump auto defaults 0 0 ' > sudo tee /etc/fstab11:36
intelikeyput that line in a terminal.11:36
locobladeyou'd enjoy spain too it's a nice place :)11:36
RawSewageThats something I recommend for Edgy...  Easier way to enable Universe/Multiverse11:36
uniqintelikey: that will not work.11:36
Ace2007aegeanlinux: Thats one NICE keyboard11:36
intelikeyuniq and why not ?11:36
uniqintelikey: you can't use > there.11:37
w00thow can i get universe repositoro?11:37
intelikeyerr i see   |11:37
aegeanlinuxAce2007: I know, $130.11:37
intelikeyyes  |11:37
intelikeyshadeofgreay like this.               echo '/dev/hdb1 /mnt/filedump auto defaults 0 0 ' | sudo tee /etc/fstab11:37
aegeanlinuxAce2007: I hope I get it for my 16th birthday11:37
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intelikeythey are just so close togather.....11:37
RawSewageIve spent about an hour explaining 20 times how to enable universe/multiverse11:37
aegeanlinuxfor all the free help i give , *hint*  *hint*11:37
RawSewageit's too hard11:37
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RawSewageit should be easier11:37
shadeofgreynow im all types of confused11:37
uniqintelikey: and suggesting using that kind of method without backing up fstab is evil. if it overwrites everything..11:38
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RawSewageit's not hard, it's just... not easy11:38
shadeofgreysomebody just give me the line i have to put into etc/fstab and ill edit it manually11:38
uniqintelikey: append is very similar to replace.11:38
Jucatow00t: launch Adept (from K Menu > System) and go to the Adept menu (first one to the left)11:38
admin__is there some script or program that will auto create an /etc/fstab file ?11:38
uniqusing a text editor is the most secure way of editing fstab and other important config files.11:38
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shadeofgreyyeah i have ity open11:39
Jucatow00t: then choose "Manage Repositories"11:39
shadeofgreynow what does the line need to be uniq?11:39
shadeofgreyand does it matter where i put it?11:39
uniqshadeofgrey: at the bottom on a new line: '/dev/hdb1 /mnt/filedump ext3 defaults 0 0'11:39
intelikeyuniq fstab is an important config  ???       hehhe   yeah.11:40
uniqintelikey: yes?11:40
w00twhat must i do here?11:40
shadeofgreyokay now i  reboot11:41
intelikeywhere is here w00t ?11:41
uniqshadeofgrey: no.11:41
uniqshadeofgrey: don't reboot yet.11:41
intelikeythis is not M$ reboot.11:41
uniqshadeofgrey: try to manually mount it first.11:41
gatekeeperRawSewage, knock up a little web site like I did here is one page --> http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories11:41
w00tin manage Repositories11:41
intelikeysudo mount -a11:41
Jucatow00t: look for the line "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe" where xx is your local server (like us. or uk. etc)11:41
uniqshadeofgrey: in konsole: 'sudo mount /mnt/filedump'11:41
intelikey-a11:41
Jucatow00t: if it's grayed out, it's disabled. Right-click on it, then choose enable11:42
RawSewagegatekeeper, cool, thanks.  I needed a tip to add to my blog11:42
intelikeythat will test if it would mount at boot time.11:42
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intelikeyuniq ^11:42
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uniqintelikey: i know it will, noauto isn't one of the options.11:43
shadeofgreymount: /dev/hdb1 already mounted or /mnt/filedump busy11:43
shadeofgreymount: according to mtab, /dev/hdb1 is already mounted on /mnt/filedump11:43
gatekeeperRawSewage, I have just been collecting things that people might find usefull like transition guides etc: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/home11:43
shadeofgreyso im good right?11:43
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uniqshadeofgrey: ok. 'sudo umount -l /mnt/filedump'11:43
Jucatow00t: how's it going?11:43
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admin__is anyone aware of any way to generate an /etc/fstab file from scratch ?11:43
gyuszi!nvidia11:43
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto11:43
intelikeyuniq as for a backup of fstab   mtab  ;/11:43
uniqadmin__: easiest way is probably to write it yoursef.11:44
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_rince_mrgn11:44
admin__uniq: as in copy one from another machine ?11:44
RawSewagegatekeeper, good idea11:44
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shadeofgreysuccess11:44
roryyy48a11:44
shadeofgreynow what?11:44
shadeofgreynow i reboot?11:45
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shadeofgreyby the wy how do i set the su password so that i can become root when i absolutely need to?11:45
uniqadmin__ no, that would not work unless the machines are swetup the same way.11:45
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gatekeeperRawSewage, you got access to making a web page or do you need a google invite?11:45
shadeofgreyis iut the same command as reg ubuntu?11:45
uniqshadeofgrey: yes.11:45
intelikeyuniq answer me this   will this line mount at boot time ?    "/dev/sda2 /var/lib/gtkrc ext3 defaults,nosuid,auto 0 0"     mount /var/lib/gtkrc  does mount it btw.11:45
noiesmo!root > shadeofgrey11:46
uniqintelikey: if /var/lib/gtkrc is a directory, yes. and you don't need 'auto' for the options, as it is included in the defaults option.11:47
RawSewagegatekeeper, no, thanks though.  I already have a website11:47
w00t...11:47
w00the is updating..11:47
admin__shadeofgrey: if you give root a password and add rootpw to /etc/sudoers with visudo you can su to root using roots password instead of any user being able to do so11:47
admin__fwiw11:47
w00tu niverse packages11:47
gatekeeperRawSewage, np :-) suspected as much11:47
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intelikeyfdisk -l /dev/sda  yelds    "/dev/sda2             527         553      216877+  83  Linux"   and /var/lib/gtkrc is a directory,    but i have to manually mount it   any idea why ?11:47
Jucatow00t: good. then you'll be able to see and install wine11:47
uniqshadeofgrey: did you successfully execute 'sudo mount /mnt/filedump' ?11:48
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uniqshadeofgrey: if so, you can safely reboot.11:48
ciusbetdamn Gambas doesnt run11:48
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shadeofgrey[mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab11:49
intelikeyuniq  i haven't figured that one out yet.   i have a theory  but wanted to show that the "i know it will"  doesn't always work...        any idea why that line doesn't mount at boot time ?11:49
w00tnow i found wine in the list of adept manager, requested install11:50
w00tbut when does it realy install:S11:50
shadeofgreyuniq does that warning i posted mean trouble?11:50
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intelikeyuniq  i think it is because on data in the initramfs.img   ;/11:50
Jucatow00t: click on Preview Changes just to check that Wine will be installed and nothing will be removed, then click on Apply Changes11:51
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w00taah yea11:51
w00tty11:51
w00tty11:51
uniqshadeofgrey: no, you can edit /etc/fstab again, and make a new empty line at the bottom, just to get rid of it.11:52
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uniqintelikey: i can't see why the data in initramfs.img has anything to do with that.11:52
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w00tcan i play games on wine:P?11:53
RawSewageyes11:53
RawSewagesome11:53
plugsw00t http://appdb.winehq.org/appbrowse.php11:53
uniqintelikey: works for me, now i used a image file, instead of /dev/sda2, but i can't see why that should matte either.11:53
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intelikeyi said i think.     see here is why i think that initramfs is blocking that from mounting automaticly.    when i installed kubuntu it demanded that i have a swap partition so i setup sda5 as swap.  but after install i deleted sda5 and converted sda2 into a primary ext311:54
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intelikeywas sda2 > sda5 = swap    now  sda2 = ext3    but wont automount.11:55
kubuntutaotaojust updated to kde 3.5.4, but konqueror was deleted and system was kde 3.5.3 yet11:55
SurgerHow do I force remove a package?11:55
intelikeyas for the auto in the fstab line i added that trying to force it to mount at boot... no help.11:56
intelikeySurger  sudo apt-get remove blah     'Yes, do as I say!'11:56
shadeofgreyhey listen guys thanks very much for everytrhing11:57
intelikeySurger if it's dependancies keeping it installed    dpkg -P --force-all blah <---but don't try that at home.11:57
Jucatoshadeofgrey: sorry wasn't that much help11:57
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shadeofgreyju:  thats not true.11:58
JucatoI'm a bit doubtful of my fstab editing skills11:58
shadeofgreyhmm11:58
Jucato:-D11:58
shadeofgreyis there nick completion in this konversation program?  and autologin to nickserv and shit?11:58
Jucatotype in a few letters of the name and hit Tab?11:58
shadeofgreymost importantly are there mp3 grabber scripts for this program?  the ones for  xchat blow rancid ardvark nuts11:58
intelikeyshadeofgrey other than trying to wreck your pinguin.   all i helped you do was agravate uniq       but your welcome  :)11:59
w00tdoes anyone play trackmania nations on wine?11:59
Surgerintelikey: Well it's messed - I can't uninstall or reinstall courier because of missing files. I want to wack it and start again.12:00
plugsrancid ardvark nuts wow12:00
plugsshame on me for repeating that12:00
intelikeySurger you can force install also....12:00
intelikeySurger try sudo apt-get install -f          see if it fixes it, before you give up on it.12:01
Jucatogtg for now. gotta eat... :-!12:01
shadeofgreyoh CRAP12:02
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ciusbethi all12:02
ciusbet:D12:02
shadeofgreyi just triedto run amorak and it created a master list that looks like absoluteshit12:02
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Surgerintelikey: Doesn't work12:02
ciusbetsomeone has installed Gambas?12:02
shadeofgreyhow do i remolve the entire collection data thing and start from scratch?12:02
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intelikeySurger error message ?    not the last thing it says.  the first E:12:03
boohi12:03
ciusbeti can't run Gambas :S12:03
Surger* Starting Courier POP3 server...                                                                                                           bind: Address already in use12:03
intelikeyshadeofgrey something like   rm ~/.amarok/ -r12:04
Surgerintelikey: Errors were encountered while processing:12:04
Surger courier-pop12:04
SurgerE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)12:04
intelikeynot sure about the dir.12:04
Surgerintelikey: All I want to do it delete it and reinstall it from scratch but I can't install it and I can't remove it. :-\12:05
intelikeySurger sudo dpkg -P courier-pop12:06
Surgerdpkg -l | grep courier   ii  courier-authdaemon  ii  courier-authdaemon  pF  courier-pop12:06
booyou cant use "sudo apt-get remove amarok"?12:06
uniqintelikey: if you think the mounting issue has to do with initrd you can take a look at the contents of the image like this; make and go to a empty directory, like /tmp/initrd/, copy your initrd.img to the dir, run 'gunzip -c initrd.img|cpio -i', now have a look around. I don't think it will mess with your automounts. but feel free to investigate.12:06
shadeofgreyhuys i nered sewrious help12:06
intelikeythen    sudo apt-get install -f        again12:06
shadeofgreyamorak did sokmething terrible with my entire music collection12:06
Surgerintelikey: Ah!!! That did it.12:06
shadeofgreyi needto remove the entire collection and theni need to talk to somebody who actually knows how tyo use this daamn thing12:07
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intelikeyuniq on mount the image -o loop12:07
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uniqintelikey: you can mount it too, but then you can't change anything. doing it my way it is easy to cpio+gzip again.12:08
intelikeyuniq if that's not it.  there muct be something else that is trying to call it a swap partition.   like i said if it's not in the initramfs.img   i don't know what it would be.12:09
shadeofgreyokasy guys whats the kde equivelant to winamp?12:09
Surgershadeofgrey: Not KDE but XMMS comes close12:09
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uniqintelikey: only fstab controls what the partitions are. the boot loader needs to know what is the root and boot filesystems though.12:10
shadeofgreydoes anybody know how to make amorak delete its entire collection database and start from scratch?12:10
gatekeepershadeofgrey, you on about amarok?12:10
shadeofgreybecause the one it created from my music  list ishorriblke12:10
shadeofgreyits not usable12:10
shadeofgreyat all12:10
willy_Using a windows partioniner allowed me to install ubuntu! Thanks all.12:10
intelikeyuniq i'm a work around rather than fix, kinda guy i guess.     it's easiest to add a mount /var/lib/gtkrc   to an init script.    then it mounts at boot.12:11
shadeofgreyi have master folder with all my music divided by   type'12:11
shadeofgreyand then by musician12:11
willy_I have one urgent question though. How do I get me res above 1024?12:11
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shadeofgreyand amorak totally  ignored my anally retentive    music structure12:11
shadeofgreyi cantfunction properly with my music collection organised like this12:11
w00tlol12:12
shadeofgreysomebodys got to help me here or ill just have to uninstall amorak altogether12:12
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shadeofgreyim serious yo!12:12
gatekeepershadeofgrey, there is a #amarok channel you might get more help there12:12
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w00tmy damn ass windows xp is so fucking slow it takes 2 hour to copy 3 gb to a other hd...12:12
bugunuw00t: maybe you should check for DMA if it is enabled12:12
uniqintelikey: that init script already exists. /etc/init.d/mountall.sh12:12
intelikeyshadeofgrey only thing i've ever done with amarok is uninstall it.  :)12:13
bugunuhi, can anyone tell me which package should I install to have ie. "man strcpy" ?12:13
intelikeyuniq  no.  that doesn't mount it.  but a specific mount call does.12:13
uniqintelikey: mountall.sh runs mount -a, basically.12:14
intelikeyand yes "i know that it will" also.  but it still doesn't12:14
intelikeythat is to say  mount -a won't mount it.12:14
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uniqthen something is wrong in your fstab.12:14
intelikeyi'll dcc it to you if you want to look or even pastebin it.    hell i'll flood the channel with it.... hehhe12:15
bugunuw00t: My Computer, Properties, Device Manager, something with IDE controller, check both Primary and Secondary items for an Advanced tab and see there smth like DMA if available and near it the current mode, if it is PIO only then you prolly have to delete this item(Primary and/or Secondary then reboot)12:15
uniqintelikey: pastebin is fine with me.12:15
intelikey!pastebin12:15
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:15
intelikeygive me a sec.12:16
bugunudoes anyone know which package has "man strcpy" ?12:16
bugunuubotu: roger that12:16
ubotuI know nothing about roger that - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu12:16
uniqbugunu: manpages-dev12:17
bugunuuniq: thanks!12:17
uniqyou're welcome :)12:17
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intelikeyhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d1976612:18
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intelikeyuniq there it is ^12:18
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uniqopening..12:18
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intelikeyerrr actually i lied about the umount -a  it will   but it doesn't automout at boot.   this is my fix for it.  cat of /etc/rc.local12:20
intelikey#!/bin/sh -e12:20
intelikeymount -a12:20
intelikeyexit 012:20
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NewTonHello!12:21
uniqintelikey: ok, interesting. then i have no clue.12:21
NewTonI have a problem with grub-install12:21
intelikeyuniq yes. me too.12:21
NewToncan somebody help?12:21
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uniqhave to go do some laundry. later.12:22
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uniqNewTon: it's often better to ask the real question and wait. :)12:22
intelikeyuniq about the 'rebuke' eariler with the tee command,  good call.   keep me in line.   i respect that.12:22
NewTonuniq ok, I will ask12:22
NewTonI wrote "# grub-install /dev/hda"12:23
NewTonbut it gives this error:12:23
NewTonCould not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.12:23
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NewTonIs this a real question, uniq12:23
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intelikeyNewTon do you have a /boot partition ?12:24
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intelikeyNewTon run that as root.12:24
NewTonintelikey: Yes, I am with the live cd now, I wrote sudo su -12:25
NewTonnow i am root12:25
NewTonactually I had Linux two days ago, but I had to install Windows12:25
NewTonand the grub went... :D12:26
intelikeyok you have to use a chroot to install grub from.   mount the linux partition   chroot /that.mount.point grub-install /dev/hda12:26
NewTonok12:26
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intelikey!grub12:27
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto12:27
intelikeyNewTon the wiki might help you there  ^12:27
NewTonintelikey, I red it12:27
NewTonread*12:27
NewTonI went to ubuntuguide.org, but the re is - grub-install /dev/hda12:28
NewTonIt is not working, as I said12:28
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intelikeynot install  but recovering afteg windows install  ^^^12:28
NewTon:)12:28
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NewTonroot@ubuntu:~# chroot /mnt/hda grub-install /dev/hda12:29
NewTon/dev/hda: Not found or not a block device.12:29
apokaHi12:29
shadeofgreyokay guys i need help12:29
shadeofgreyi need to know what my optiuons are as far as mp3 players12:29
intelikeytry /.dev12:29
intelikeyor no12:29
w00tal the games get fucked on wine!:P12:29
intelikeywait.12:29
shadeofgreybecause amorak is the worst one ive ever trieds to uyse12:29
NewTonintelikey: k12:29
shadeofgreysdo that out12:29
Jucatoshadeofgrey: what's the problem with amarok?12:30
shadeofgreywhat are my other options12:30
NewTonshadeofgrey: XMMS12:30
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shadeofgreyJucato: none of my mp3 files have the right tag information12:30
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Jucatoshadeofgrey: XMMS and Juk are alternatives.12:30
shadeofgreyhow would i look at a list of all the mp3 players available -- through adept?12:30
NewTonshadeofgrey: sudo apt-get install xmms12:31
intelikeyNewTon    chroot /mnt/hda mknod /dev/hda b 3 012:31
intelikeythen try again.12:31
JucatoI thought Amarok only read the tags that are already there, unless you change them within Amarok itself.12:31
wouter__Hi all. I have a problem. I just installed KDE3.5.4. One package (kdemultimedia) wasnt able to upgrade. The error message is: libarts1-audiofile (>=4:3.5.4-0ubuntu2~dapper1) but 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu3 is to be installed.  What should I do to get kdemultimedia to upgrade?12:31
Firetechshadeofgrey: you'd better use easytag or something to fix your tags instead, Amarok is way better than any other player ;)12:31
shadeofgreyFiretech: unfortunately that means manually editing the tags for 250 gig worth of music12:32
Ace2007How do i change the QT Designer version thats in use, i have 3.3.6 and 4.1.2, i want 4.1.2 to be in use. I want to change the version thats sued, like the way you change the java version12:32
uniqNewTon, intelikey: you need to mount /dev/hdaX first. then chroot to the mounted directory. :)12:32
NewTonroot@ubuntu:~# chroot /mnt/hda mknod /dev/hda b 3 012:32
NewTonroot@ubuntu:~# chroot /mnt/hda grub-install /dev/hda12:32
NewTon/dev/hda1: Not found or not a block device.12:32
NewTonroot@ubuntu:~# chroot /mnt/hda mknod /dev/hda b 3 012:32
NewTonmknod: `/dev/hda': File exists12:32
NewTonroot@ubuntu:~# grub-install /dev/hda12:32
NewTonCould not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.12:32
intelikeyAce2007 update-alternatives maybe    man that12:33
uniqthe device should be there.12:33
Firetechshadeofgrey: not with easytag, it's a mass tagger... Your problem probably is id3v2 with wrong encoding... come over to #amarok for help, there are lots of people to help you with your tags there (it's a common problem)12:33
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uniqNewTon: don't run both commands like that.. run first: 'chroot /mnt/hda'12:33
uniqNewTon: then 'grub-install /dev/hda' inside the chroot :)12:34
NewTonou12:34
NewTonok12:34
intelikeyNewTon process of elimenation.    chroot /mnt/hda mknod /dev/hda1 b 3 1       and try again.12:34
intelikeyuniq he is.12:34
intelikey<NewTon> root@ubuntu:~# chroot /mnt/hda grub-install /dev/hda12:34
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intelikeyid i post that.12:35
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Ace2007intelikey: But sudo update-alternatives --config what?12:35
NewTonintelikey12:36
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NewTonit is not working12:36
Ace2007brb12:36
uniqintelikey: ok, i'lll leave you to it. my girl is here with a new load of laundry for me. brb.12:36
gnomefreakum i dont think qt is in update-alternatives12:36
shadeofgreyokay i cant find easy tag anywhere... how dio i add the necessary repos to adept?12:36
intelikeyAce2007 ls /etc/alternatives and see if that is even applicalbe to your issue.12:36
intelikeyk12:37
Jucatoanyone had experience some problems with the media:/ KIO slave after upgrading to KDE 3.5.4?12:37
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intelikeyNewTon what you mean ?     different error ?12:37
NewTonthe same12:38
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NewTon /dev/hda1: Not found or not a block device.12:38
counter123I've installed wpasupplicant and it does work when called from commandline, but /etc/init.d/wpasupplicant doesn't exist. Why is the init script missing and how can I get it?12:38
intelikeyls /mnt/hda/dev/hd*12:38
shadeofgreyhow do i enable more repos in adept - specifically the universe and multiverse and shit?12:38
intelikeyis hda1 there ?12:39
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NewTonls: /mnt/hda/dev/hd*: No such file or directory12:39
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uniqshadeofgrey: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu12:40
intelikeyNewTon then you didn't run the command i gave last.  but lets kill all pigons at one time shall we.    chroot /mnt/hda  ;cd /dev ;MAKEDEV hd ;grub-install /dev/hda       <--- put that in the terminal.12:41
intelikeythat wont work will it.12:42
NewTonw8ing12:42
intelikeyrun the chroot first then the rest of the line in there.12:42
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NewTonroot@ubuntu:/# chroot /mnt/hda  ;cd /dev ;MAKEDEV hd ;grub-install /dev/hda12:42
intelikeyyou are in the chroot ?12:42
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NewTonchroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory12:42
NewTon/sbin/MAKEDEV: warning: can't read /proc/devices12:42
NewTonDue to a bug in xfs_freeze, the following command might produce a segmentation12:43
NewTonfault when /boot/grub is not in an XFS filesystem. This error is harmless and12:43
NewToncan be ignored.12:43
NewTonxfs_freeze: specified file ["/boot/grub"]  is not on an XFS filesystem12:43
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NewTonInstallation finished. No error reported.12:43
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NewTonThis is the contents of the device map /boot/grub/device.map.12:43
NewTonCheck if this is correct or not. If any of the lines is incorrect,12:43
NewTonfix it and re-run the script `grub-install'.12:43
NewTon(hd0)   /dev/hda12:43
NewTon(hd1)   /dev/hdb12:43
intelikeyyou have installed grub12:43
NewTon:D huh Really? :D12:43
counter123can anyone give me a hint what to do about the missing /etc/init.d/wpasupplicant ?12:43
NewTonhehehehe I will restart soon12:44
NewTonintelikey: Thank you very much!12:44
const_castcounter123: what's the problem?12:44
intelikeywelcome.12:44
counter123/etc/init.d/wpasupplicant doesn't exist although wpa_supplicant is installed12:44
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shadeofgreyokay guys i need help12:45
shadeofgreyi just installed beep media player and i dont see it in any menua12:46
sfkhooperdoes anyone know enough to help troubleshoot a webmin installation?12:46
const_castcounter123: did it disapear after you did an upgrade?12:46
intelikeydpkg -L wpa_supplicant | grep init.d            and see if it was supposed to install there.12:46
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uniqcounter123: this is because it's not handled that way anymore, it is handled by /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/wpasupplicant, which is a symlink to /etc/wpa_supplicant/ifupdown.sh12:47
const_castintelikey: it's not :)12:47
counter123I see12:47
intelikeysfkhooper sorry i'm network illiterate12:47
Jucatoanyone had experience some problems with umounted media and mounting media in the media:/ KIO slave after upgrading to KDE 3.5.4?12:47
shadeofgreyokay how do i handle situations where things have been installed but they dont show up in menu12:48
sfkhoopercome on mysql heads, don't miss this excellent opportunity to laugh as a newbie fumbles his way thru a webmin config12:48
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Jucatoshadeofgrey: you can either log out then back in again, or you could try typing this in Konsole: kbuildsycoca --incremental12:48
intelikeyshadeofgrey sudo update-menus      may help.   no promices.12:49
uniqsfkhooper: what is the problem with webmin?12:49
JucatoIs Kubuntu the only KDE distro that has this behavior with newly installed apps?12:49
intelikeyjucato what behaviour ?12:50
sfkhooperafter installing, I get "Could not connect to host ubuntulamp (port 10000)."12:50
uniqis anything listening on port 10000?12:50
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Jucatointelikey: it no longer shows unmounted partitions/drives. and it also doesn't show unmounted partitions when you mount them.12:51
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sfkhooperuniq, when I browse to https://ubuntulamp:10000/ as instructed12:51
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sfkhooperuniq, how can I check?12:51
intelikeyJucato there are settings for that, right click the desktop and configure the thing   or system settings and config it.12:51
uniqsfkhooper: on the server run 'sudo netstat -lpnAinet'12:52
JucatoI'm talking about media:/ in Konqueror12:52
intelikeyi always turn all that krap off12:52
intelikeyoh in konq12:52
intelikeyidk.   it may turn on/off also.12:52
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w00ti have installed kismet, now i ccan't find it..12:52
JucatoOk, I'll try it later...12:52
sfkhooperok uniq, there's the problem. I thought mysql would have been configured to listen on that port but there's nothing there12:53
uniqsfkhooper: mysql should listen on port 3306 i guess. webmin should listen on 1000012:54
uniqsfkhooper: did you follow http://www.howtoforge.com/lamp_installation_ubuntu6.06 ?12:54
sfkhooperno, but thanks uniq, I'll look now12:54
intelikeyi tried to install vmware-player  but found that it's i686+ only,  even though it's an i386 package... i can't use it.12:55
w00thello?12:55
uniqw00t: in konsole,run 'sudo kismet'12:56
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w00ti have  installed Kismet on the Adept manager12:56
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uniqw00t: yes, kismet is a terminal application. you have to run it in konsole.12:57
w00ti know12:57
intelikeysure you do....12:57
intelikey:)12:57
w00tah wait maybe i have to disconnect first my wirreless connection?12:57
w00t:P12:57
BluesKajwhat is kismet ?12:58
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w00tmm12:59
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w00tFATAL: Please configure at least one packet source.  Kismet will not function if no packet sources are defined in kismet.conf or on the command line.  Please read the README for more information about configuring Kismet.12:59
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BluesKaj!kismet12:59
ubotuI know nothing about kismet - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu12:59
intelikeyBluesKaj apt-cache search kismet        or s/search/show01:00
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uniqw00t: you have to configure it first01:02
BluesKajok thx , intelikey01:02
w00tmmm ok01:02
BluesKajI'm still hardwired and plan to stay that way01:02
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intelikeyBluesKaj there is a saying 'give a man a fish, he will eat one meal. teach him to fish, he will eat the rest of his life'01:03
w00t# YOU MUST CHANGE THIS TO BE THE SOURCE YOU WANT TO USE01:04
w00tsource=none,none,addme01:04
w00t?01:04
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uniqw00t: what wireless nic?01:04
w00tu mean like eth001:05
w00t?01:05
w00t:P01:05
w00ti am a fucking newbie:P01:05
intelikeyis that what kind.....01:05
w00tmmm...01:06
uniqw00t: 3com? dlink?  name and number :)01:06
w00tah01:06
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uniqw00t: lspci might give you some information. if you pastebin the output of 'lspci -v' i might be able to help.01:06
intelikeylshw is sometimes usefull also.01:07
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uniqsure is.01:08
shadeofgreyokay guyts01:08
shadeofgreyi need to know about my options for ftp programs01:09
shadeofgreyim used to using gftp -- but is that a gnome only program?01:09
shadeofgreyits listed in adept as a possibility01:09
intelikeyis that guts guys or gluts ?01:09
shadeofgreyguys01:09
omeowshadeofgrey, use konqueror01:09
BluesKajintelikey, I already know how to fish , AAMOF it's one of my fav pastimes :)01:09
omeowtype ftp://whatever address in it01:09
Jucatoshadeofgrey: konqueror01:09
w00twhere must i pastebin it?01:09
shadeofgreywill gftp work on kde?01:09
omeowYes.01:10
omeowWhy do you want a dedicated program?01:10
omeowkonqueror can be used for ftp too.01:10
Jucatoshadeofgrey: you don't need to gFTP unless you really want/need to. Konqueror can also be your FTP client01:10
intelikeyBluesKaj same principels apply.  if i answer what blah is  you learn what blah is ... if i show you an easy way to find out what blah is......01:10
Jucatoshadeofgrey: Konqueror (type in ftp:/) then split the view (Ctrl+Shift+L or Ctrl+Shift+T) then drag'n'drop to your heart's content01:11
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BluesKajintelikey, well, I don't plan on wireless since my house is already wired with cat501:11
w00t?01:12
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w00twhat u want to know of lspci -v?01:12
BluesKajno laptops here01:12
intelikeymy modem reset.  if i missed anything.01:12
shadeofgreyhow do i set keyboard shortcuts foir programs?01:12
uniqw00t: wherever you want. just give me the url when done.01:12
JucatoSettings > Configure shortcuts. Each program have their own shortcuts01:12
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w00tok:)01:13
uniqw00t: rafb.net/paste is nice01:13
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intelikeyBluesKaj same thing applies about the answer to your question tho    if i just tell you what blah is, you learn what blah is.   but if i show you an easy way to check what blah is.  you can check for any package.01:13
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intelikeyfishing for answers lets call it.01:14
w00thttp://rafb.net/paste/results/xhO8jr72.html01:14
w00tthat is ok?01:15
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BluesKajagreed , but i was merely referring to the wireless thing...wasn't being critical of those who have it01:15
KaoticEvilanyone know if its possible to get a pair of Radeon 7000's working in "sli" mode?01:15
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intelikeygoogle can answer many questions.  but sometimes the answers i get from google are a big waste of time and no help.   if i want to know what a package is for   apt-cache search/show blah  knows more than google and isn't filled with uselss information that i don't want.01:16
uniqw00t: ok, you have a intel wireless nic.01:16
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BluesKajI guess if my daughter wants to setup her laptop when she visits then I should look into wireless but I'm sure she can do dhcp with it thru my router01:17
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uniqw00t: try to set this: source=ipw2200,eth1,ATHEROS01:17
uniqw00t: take a look at http://www.kismetwireless.net/documentation.shtml, search for 'ipw2200' and read. I think you must do some more changes to the config.01:20
intelikeyBluesKaj yeah, i personally am against wireless. just because i see so many using other peoples wireless (pirates).  anything that easy to steal can't be good.  and just about all you need is a close neibour with wireless and a little know how.01:20
KaoticEvilanyone know if its possible to get a pair of Radeon 7000's working in "sli" mode?01:20
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waggle7622frackradeon 7000=no01:22
intelikeyhmmm isn't the ultimate kaos, structure ?01:22
KaoticEvildamn. that sucks.01:22
waggle7622frackyou need an sli board and nvidia sli cards01:22
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waggle7622frackor ati crossfire01:22
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BluesKajyeah intelikey , my neighbour didn't relize he was being used as a node by some of the kids in the neighborhood till his internet speed was so slow he complained and they reaized he hadn't even turned on the encryption01:23
gnomefreakhow do i run a weather applet i installed with sudper karamba01:23
BluesKajthe ISP support ppl01:23
intelikeyyep BluesKaj i see a lot of that.01:23
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uniqgnomefreak: run superkaramba, select the theme.01:24
gnomefreakfrom where?01:24
uniqgnomefreak: is this liquid weather?01:24
gnomefreakno that gives me issues01:24
BluesKajhe was lucky , he din't have any work related important data and he hadn't setup to do any internet banking01:25
uniqgnomefreak: what issues?01:25
intelikeyinternet banking is evil too01:25
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BluesKajvery cautious man but he just didn't know01:25
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gnomefreakuniq: konq. mouse icon doesnt stop trying to load konq. when i go to install it (now for some reasont he one i did install doesnt have green check01:26
intelikeyyep   'my people parish for want of knowledge'01:26
gnomefreakah it is liq. weather oh wth01:26
w00twtf01:26
w00ti can't save the config file01:27
w00tacces dinied...01:27
w00ti have to be root01:27
intelikeynot root ?01:27
w00t:)01:27
w00tlol01:27
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gnomefreakaero - liquidweather i install and it shows no green check and im gonna lock up of i try liquidweather++01:27
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uniqw00t: you can save to /tmp/ and sudo mv /tmp/file /etc/kismet.. then you don't have to re-do all the changes.01:27
w00tok01:28
uniqgnomefreak: you install from within superkaramba right?01:28
gnomefreakattempting to01:28
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BluesKajI'm using avidemux for the first time to make a vcd file ... be interesting to see if I did it right :)01:28
gnomefreaksee here we go konq icon bouncing around01:28
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uniqgnomefreak: ok. use wget then, http://www.message.co.nz/~matt-sarah/lwp-13.0.skz01:30
gnomefreakok ill try01:31
gnomefreakbtw konq mouse icon still bouncing :(01:31
intelikeyhmmm i added a function to bx to search apt-cache   and glad i made it NOT -o to the channel  cause it's not flood proff.... ;/01:31
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intelikeyfor a quick search of the cache all i have to do is /q blah01:33
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shadeofgreyhey01:34
intelikeyhey01:34
shadeofgreyhow do i install the flash plugin for mozilla firefox01:34
intelikeyhay01:34
Jucatohey01:34
eddy_hoi01:34
Jucatosudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree01:34
Jucatoor install it from Adept01:34
intelikeylibflash-mozplugin - GPL Flash (SWF) Library - Mozilla-compatible plugin01:35
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intelikeyflashplugin-nonfree - Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer01:35
uniqintelikey: the gpl flash is close to useless.01:35
intelikeyimo the other is too01:36
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intelikey!flash01:38
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:38
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gnomefreakuniq: ok so i throw this in ~/.superkar....?01:42
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uniqgnomefreak: where ever you want, you select the theme file with superkarmba so you can put it wherever.01:42
gnomefreaki see that ty :)01:42
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coretti#knoppix-it01:46
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w00t_hi01:47
w00t_hello?01:47
w00t_am i online?01:47
intelikeyno01:48
w00t_damn internet connection01:48
w00t_:P01:48
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w00t_:D01:48
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Nancy1Hi everyone,,01:48
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w00t_ hi01:48
w00t_damn damn damn i want to put kismet in the kmune01:49
w00t_menu01:49
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intelikeyso put it ther01:49
w00t_i have add a item01:49
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intelikeymake a script and launch it from ther01:50
w00t_and terminal options : kismet.. that don't work01:50
w00t_lol how to make a script?01:50
Nancy1Can anyone help me with a major problem for me,, maybe a ridiculous one for you guys,, but ,, How come I cant unlock my session once my screen saver is on? My pw is good for loging in a session but once screen saver ON my pw doesnt give me access to my session anymore. I have to reboot to get back in a session,,01:50
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Nancy1isnt my pw be good for screen saver,, ?01:51
RawSewageUncheck the box that says01:51
RawSewageREquire Password to stop01:51
RawSewageRight-click desktop01:51
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RawSewageconfigure desktop01:51
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MetaMorfoziS!easysource01:52
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic01:52
milenazdravo nenad01:52
intelikeyecho 'konsole -e kismit' > kismit.sh :chmod 755 kismit.sh     and make a menu entry for kismet.sh  w00t01:52
lmodlsupak kao si01:52
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Nancy1that I can do,, but I need pw since laptop is in student commom area,, dont want everyone snooping on LT while I turn my eyes around01:52
lmodlleoo01:52
milenatata01:53
lmodlisklucio sam se sa linije n01:53
w00t_lol that will happen anyway:P01:53
lmodlobicno pisi kratke poruke01:54
milenasta ti to znaci linija01:54
lmodltel. linija01:54
milenaevo mama sad samnom gleda i cudise01:54
Nancy1I want to know why my pw isnt good for my screensave, or is there a specific pw for screen saver while in a session?01:54
intelikeyNancy1 set screensaver to logout ?01:55
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lmodlnema sto da se cudi .. neka uci trebat ce joj01:55
Nancy1intelikey: ??01:55
intelikeyNancy1 i understand your question.  i can't answer it.  i was just offering a work around that might suffice.01:55
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knubbeanyone using kubuntu as a tv? using a tv usb stick or similar...01:56
knubbeand if so; does it work under linux?01:56
milenaeto razumijemo sve ja cu ovo daci pokazat tako da moze mozda i sa svabom da prica ako on bude gtjeo isto umbutu to ce joj usparati puno para01:56
w00t_still don't know where to put01:57
lmodlpa naravno jer je potpuno djaba..01:57
w00t_echo 'konsole -e kismit' > kismit.sh :chmod 755 kismit.sh01:57
intelikeyknubbe isn't the second Q redundant.   if they are using kubuntu as a tv then the answer to the second is YES.01:57
grothesklmodl: English please...01:57
Nancy1intelikey: ahh,, but I didnt rally understood your comment,, set screen saver to log out.. meaning.. once screen saver is on,, there will be option to log out instead of unlock?01:57
knubbeintelikey: it sure is.01:58
intelikeyNancy1 i thank there is an option for the screensaver to log you out when it activates.01:58
intelikeyw00t_ in konsole.01:58
knubbeintelikey: i was thinking maybe its not working 100%, like... only b/w or something.01:58
Nancy1intelikey: humm let me check01:59
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lmodlleo ja cu sada otici na drugi kanal pa cu te pozvati01:59
intelikeyknubbe i'm a cli user i can't help ya there.01:59
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intelikeymore specificly a console user.01:59
milenaeto gajle sad mozemo pricat kolko hocemo sta meni nije jasno je zasto umbutu office nema funktije za holandski jezik mada ja sam instaliro abi ali vidim da je ovaj office 2.0 jako sirok i dobar01:59
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Nancy1intelikey: well in screen saver I have 3 option,, start auto after ,,, password to stop screen saver,, infor screen saver of power saver,, no log out option on activation :( sorry02:00
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lmodlima ali mora i firefox imati nl opciju bez tog ne ide , neka koristi aby...02:01
intelikeyhmmm Nancy1 don't recall where i saw that option...  may not have even been linux.   i thought it was.02:01
w00t_ok is typed echo 'konsole -e kismet' > kismet.sh :chmod 755 kismet.sh in konsole...02:02
grotheskIs enlightenment e17 somewhere available for ubuntu?02:02
intelikeyw00t_ make a menu itom that runs ~/kismet.sh02:02
Nancy1I remember seeing something like that on other distro like RH,, but havent seen it in Kubuntu02:02
gnomefreakgrothesk: only from either a 3rd party repo or build it yourself02:02
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milenanije problem tata ona ce koristiti abi, ja sam sve insaliro iz pika moguti reci da je jako lako zato sto je umbutu jasani od svi drugi.. nema zajebancije i sada i sve radi02:03
grotheskI was searching for a 3rd party repo02:03
gnomefreakhold on02:03
gnomefreaki have it somewhere02:03
lmodlpokusaj da nisi vulgaran jer ovo ipak mogu procitati cak i u japanu..02:04
w00t_it don't work02:04
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w00t_excactly it does noting02:04
w00t_:P02:04
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gnomefreak!pl02:04
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl02:04
gnomefreakgrothesk: here is the repo but remember e17 is not stable and this repo is still being tested anyway deb http://SeerOfSouls.com/ dapper e1702:05
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milenadobro tata jasno mi je i necu biti vulgaran02:05
gnomefreakanyone else have issues running kxdocker?02:06
abattoir!nl02:06
ubotuNederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl02:06
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intelikeyw00t_ what is in ~/kismet.sh  ?      should be one line.  konsole -e kismet02:07
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yamalabattoir: please dont send them there that isn't dutch02:07
w00t_i can't find that...02:07
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gnomefreak!de02:07
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de02:07
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gplfighterpolish or something i think....02:08
abattoiryamal: hmmm, ok, sorry02:08
gplfighterdon't know02:08
yamalsomething eastern european02:08
gplfighteryes02:08
gplfightercz?02:08
lmodlimas leo kanal ubuntu ito u 14 06 klikni ga ja sam na njemu manje je frekfenta.02:08
gplfighter!cz02:08
ubotuesk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.02:08
gplfighterno02:09
gnomefreakmilena: what launguage do you speak?02:09
gnomefreaklmodl:  what language do you speak02:09
yamallooks like croatian02:09
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yamalor slovenian02:09
w00t_this is in kismet.sh02:09
w00t_konsole -e kismet :chmod 755 kismet.sh02:09
larson9999my system has gremilins.  they last few days it's been locking up more and more frequently.02:09
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gnomefreaklooked polish to me02:09
gplfighterno, i dont think so02:10
yamalno polish02:10
gplfightermaybe02:10
gplfighter!pl02:10
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl02:10
jon__Hi folks, quick question about fglrx and/or ATI driver, whichever is relevant.02:10
w00t_loll02:10
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gnomefreakgplfighter: i know its not polish (at first look it looked like it02:10
BluesKajanyone here familiar with Avidemux ?02:11
andreasdietrichhi02:11
yamal!hr02:11
ubotuza hrvatski dodjite na #ubuntu-hr, da ne zbunjujete engleze.02:11
gplfightergnomefreak: k02:11
lmodlbas me briga02:11
intelikeyw00t_ remove the ;chmod 755 kismet.sh     from the file   and make sure the path is correct in the menu launcher.02:11
intelikeyw00t_ it should work.02:11
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gnomefreakah02:12
milenato gajle samo ih treba zbunjivat02:12
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gnomefreakmilena: join #ubuntu-nl02:12
gplfighterno02:12
yamalplease no02:12
BluesKajjon__,I use the fglrx driver with an elcheapo on board ATIxpress 200 , but I'm not into games so it works fine for me02:12
gnomefreaklmodl: join #ubuntu-nl02:13
grotheskgnomefreak: thx02:13
gnomefreakdont tell me know02:13
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gnomefreaklook at the ip02:13
grotheskFound anotherone: deb http://edevelop.org/ubuntu dapper e1702:13
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gplfighteryes02:13
abattoirgnomefreak: i made the same mistake too :'(02:13
gplfighterbut02:13
BluesKaj!Avidemux02:13
ubotuI know nothing about Avidemux - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu02:13
jon__I have an ATI Express 200. I just wanted to shift some of X's work to the card, which I was told I could. But after installing/configuring, it still seems to be using Mesa.02:13
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lmodlleo klikni na ubuntu manje je frekfentan02:14
gnomefreake17 hasnt been released02:14
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gnomefreaksee nl02:14
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BluesKajhave you tried configging the card driver in the hardware section...I hate state the obvious but the available drivers are listed there if you use admin/configure02:15
milenaja a gdje to trebam mjenjat02:15
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jon__Please do state the obvious, theres *something* I'm missing. :) I'll take a look.02:15
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Seveasmilena, this channel is english only...02:16
grotheskgnomefreak: Don't worry. I'm aware of that.02:16
PolarbeerHi everybody! Here's a newbie question: when i try to login as root i get an error: root logins are not allowed. Can I change that, ie allow root logins?02:16
w00t_lol i have the same02:17
gnomefreakgrothesk: im not worried its you system (just letting you know)02:17
nagyvhello! is here any bash scripting expert? I would like to change the charset of all the files in a given directory and subdirectories from Iso 2 utf. I can do it for one file, but would like to use a for loop, but don't know how to do it. Please!02:17
_Shade_Polarbeer: use sudo instead02:17
Polarbeerhow?02:17
gnomefreak!root > Polarbeer02:17
gnomefreakPolarbeer: please read your pm02:17
Polarbeeri need to open my cd burning tool as root02:17
gnomefreakPolarbeer: what is it?02:18
jon__BluesKaj: kcontrol says it's using the fglrx driver, but glxinfo says something different.02:18
PolarbeerX CD-roast02:18
Polarbeerit wont execute from console02:18
gnomefreakPolarbeer: is it gui?02:18
Polarbeeryes02:18
gnomefreakPolarbeer: kdesu <app>02:19
intelikeyNancy1 hmmm you're right it's not there    anywhere.... might have be in 'nome that i saw it.02:19
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w00t_why should must i be root to use kismet?02:19
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BluesKajjon__, have you assigned the frglx driver ?02:19
jon__Sorry, how do you mean?02:20
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SannePolarbeer: please be aware that if you run a program as root (or sudo), any bigs in this program would also execute with root privileges.02:20
Sannebugs even02:20
Polarbeeryes i am, Sanne, thanks for your concern, though!02:21
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SannePolarbeer: ok, just so you know :)02:21
Polarbeeryep. ty! :D02:21
intelikeyoh.  i didn't know that about kismet w00t_ sorry there.    prepend    kdesu   like this    konsole -e kdeus kismet    and that script should run it as root for you.02:21
BluesKajuhoh , sorry jon__, I just discovered aproblem with my graphics card setup02:22
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milena#ubuntu-hr02:24
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intelikeyi think i may start using root.   permissions are so nice when they dont exist.........02:27
w00t_!nl02:27
ubotuNederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl02:27
w00t_lol02:27
Howitzerhee02:27
w00t_can i make my own mune next to the kmune?02:27
HowitzerBe?02:27
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Howitzer!be02:28
ubotuI know nothing about be - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu02:28
w00t_kmenu?02:28
BluesKaj!nd02:28
ubotuI know nothing about nd - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu02:28
w00t_maak je eigen channel belg:P02:28
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intelikeyi think so w00t_02:28
w00t_#ubuntu-be zitten mensen in:P02:28
yamalgecondoleerd02:29
malc_I have a 3 button mouse (two button plus scroll wheel).  I can scroll up and down with the scroll, but I can't click down with it on say a web page and hover down the page.  Anyone know how I fix this?02:29
intelikeycheck out /etc/menu-methods   and /etc/menu   you may want to just fiddle with the system a little.02:29
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sfkhooperHelp! webmin is prompting me for my MySQL admin login and nothing is working02:32
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w00t_where can i find local/share/applications/menu-xdg?02:35
intelikey /usr/local/share/applications/menu-xdg   is probably in  /usr/share/applications/02:36
larson9999intelikey: i don't have an /etc/menu02:36
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w00t_i don;t have that too:P02:36
intelikeylarson9999 that wasn't @ you it was @ w00t_ but i have one.02:37
intelikeyyou don't ?02:37
w00t_nope02:37
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larson9999intelikey: i know but i figured i'd look, too.  i don't02:37
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larson9999intelikey: i did in mdk02:37
intelikeyhmmmm   maybe it's not default.02:37
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intelikeymaybe added by fluxbox   or blackbox   or even xfce4    i have all those installed.02:38
intelikeyidk.02:38
intelikeyfor all i know twm might have added that.....02:40
larson9999intelikey: but i do know that i'm not really happy with the way kde and the menu works on any system i've tried so far.02:41
steveireIn xfce, you can switch desktops by sending the mouse off the screen to the next one. Can you do that in kde?02:42
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w00t_some one know a nice game:P tthat i can run on02:43
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w00t_kubuntu?02:43
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ubuntuhi all02:44
intelikeylarson9999 what would you change ?02:44
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blinkycould anyone tell me if you are still able to buy the 2500xp mobile barton cpu on the net and if so where i can get it from(uk only)??02:46
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jacklehi all!02:49
coachjhow do I install a .deb pacakage that is not in the repos?02:49
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larson9999intelikey: let me remember.  some of this i think is not so much do with kde but the packages i install.  i haven't looked in a while so some of this might be off.  but basically, not all programs that you install make it to the menu.  in mandriva i looked into this a bit and found a couple reasons.  one was that the menu file would list gnome or something else in the wm field.  in my mind gnome programs should make it to the kde m02:49
larson9999enu and vice versa.  there were some other reasons that things didn't make it to the menu but that was the main reason.02:49
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jackleI would like to run that script/process adept runs after installing an app.. but I need to run it on all packages.02:49
jackleWhat is the command?02:50
intelikeywell maybe there is a new crowd in here now let me ask my question.    anyone know a solution to a grub-install /dev/hda error that looks like this.  Unknown partition table signature02:51
intelikeyThe file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.02:51
intelikeytty5 [root@~] 02:51
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intelikeyjackle sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a    ?02:52
MilhousePunkRockRe everyone02:52
jackleintelikey: isnt that the command that reconfigs your whole system?02:52
intelikeyMilhousePunkRock wb02:52
intelikeyjackle yes.  what are you asking about ?02:52
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MilhousePunkRockHehe, I am using Chatzilla on my Windows machine right now, kinda rudimentary compared to Konversation02:53
spchi all.  Remote Desktop was really easy to set up in Gnome, but I can't seem to figure it out in KDE.  Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?  I can ping my computer from my laptop, but it says 'can't connect to server'.02:53
intelikeywindows.... /me ignores MilhousePunkRock now.02:53
intelikey:)02:53
MilhousePunkRocklol intelikey02:53
jackleintelikey: when installing an package, adept executes a command in the end that configs the packages ... like setup fontconfig .. but without the promts...02:53
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MilhousePunkRockIt's my gaming rig, I want to part the drive on my Linux laptop, GParted does not come with any IRC client...02:54
spcI've got the sharing tab open and setup.02:54
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intelikeyjackle no it executes the postinstall scripts that came with the package     see  /var/lib/dpkg/info/    for more info.02:54
BluesKajMilhousePunkRock, why not use xchat or mirc , chatzilla is so black and white :)02:55
MilhousePunkRockBluesKaj: I just had to find some client quickly...02:55
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BluesKajhehe yeah , if it works , use it :)02:56
Tommycoachj: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb02:56
MilhousePunkRockit does work indeed, BluesKaj02:56
spcI've got the ip address and screen typed into the vnc viewer (192.168.x.x:0)  but I don't know whether to use a display, or which display number to use.  I tried 0 and 1.02:56
spcand no display.02:56
TheMoebiushey so this is a stupid question because it shouldn't have to be asked, but why can't I find the Trash anywhere in KDE? I need to empty it.02:56
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Tommydid u remove the trash applet from kicker02:57
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TheMoebiusTommy: yeah, I think i did not realizing that was the only place it could be accessed02:57
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intelikeythe default trash can is in the bottom left corner of the pannel02:57
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Tommyits always been at bottom right for me o_O02:57
intelikeyerr your other left.02:57
w00thi02:58
w00twhat does this eman02:58
w00tThere was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.02:58
intelikeyright corner.02:58
BluesKajMilhousePunkRock, are you looking for GParted ?02:58
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TheMoebiusis there any other way to access the trash besides the applet on the task bar?02:58
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larson9999TheMoebius: cd .Trash02:58
zeredhi everybody02:58
zeredi'm a new user of kubuntu02:59
larson9999TheMoebius: ro cd ~/.Trash02:59
zeredI was under mandriva before02:59
Tommytrash:/02:59
zeredI have not formatted my /home02:59
larson9999TheMoebius: or cd ~/.Trash02:59
intelikeysure there is TheMoebius this is linux.    konq can get there   konsole rm ~/.Trash/* -r02:59
zeredAmarok don't want add my collection (read my drive). It add this in "imported"02:59
zeredWhat can I do03:00
intelikeyor put the button back on the pannel.03:00
TheMoebiusintelikey: LOL well thats intuitive03:00
intelikeyand other ways.....03:00
abattoirzered: which version of amarok was installed under Mandriva?03:00
intelikeyTheMoebius it's easy to put it back.03:00
TheMoebiuscant I get an icon on the desktop or something?03:00
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TommyTheMoebius does trash:/ in konqueror work03:00
TheMoebiusyes03:01
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Tommymake a .desktop shortcut to konqueror trash:/03:01
TheMoebiuswell, sort of but theres nothing in there and I just deleted like 11GB worth of stuff03:01
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Tommywell are you sure that its in the trash03:01
Tommyyou could add the panel just to make sure03:01
Tommyapplet*03:01
zeredabattoir: Hi. The same as ubuntu (1.4.1)03:01
TheMoebiusok so I put the icon back on the taskbar and did the empty trash function but its just sitting at 0%03:02
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abattoirzered: so you mean to say amarok doesnt read from the 'Collection database' you created w/ it in Mandriva... or you cant do a new scan...?03:02
zeredabattoir: it don't want do a new scan03:03
zeredI erased this "imported" and force a new scan03:03
abattoirzered: could you try deleting the amarok config files in your /home?03:03
zeredamarok create again an "imported list"03:03
abattoirzered: you'd lose your settings of course...03:03
zeredabattoir: yes, I would try this but I can't find it. Where is it ? What is it's name ?03:04
abattoirzered: ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok and ~/.kde/share/config/amarokrc03:04
abattoirzered: make sure amarok is closed when you do that03:04
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cplusplushi03:04
cplusplusnano -w /etc/conf.d/net03:04
zeredabattoir: ok, I try it. Thanx.03:04
cplusplusdoes kubuntu has that?03:05
cplusplus-> nano -w /etc/conf.d/net03:05
abattoirzered: you're welcome :)03:05
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Hobbsee!info amarok dapper03:05
ubotuamarok: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In repository main, is optional. Version 2:1.3.9-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 7630 kB, installed size 18672 kB03:05
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Hobbseezered: 1.4.1 isnt in kubuntu by default, unless you're talkign about edgy.03:05
zeredabattoir: I nee erase all folder /kde/share/apps/amarok ?03:05
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abattoircplusplus: 'nano', yes... /etc/conf.d... i dont think so...(or atleast it isnt in my system)03:06
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zeredHobbsee: I installed kubuntu 6.0.6 ans i have amarok 1.4. That's no normal ?03:06
cpluspluswhere are eth eth0 config saved?03:06
Hobbseezered: you used the kubuntu.org repostories?03:06
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Hobbseezered: they are still counted as official.  i think03:07
zeredHobbsee: sorry, it's 1.3.9. The splashscreen is wrong03:07
Hobbseezered: ah :)03:07
coachjTommy: thanks I found out you can also right click>Kubuntu package menu>install package!!!03:07
Hobbseezered: i'd actually add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list which always contains the newest version of amarok for kubuntu03:07
Hobbseezered: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest/ dapper main03:08
cpluspluswhere is my network eth0 config saved on kubuntu??????????????03:08
zeredHobbsee: I add it. Thanx. I try !03:08
Lynourecplusplus: /etc/network/interfaces03:09
zeredHobbsee: I'm uprading amarok03:10
zeredstay tunes folks. ;-)03:10
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Hobbseezered: cool :)  that repo always gets the latest version of amarok in it.03:10
Hobbseezered: i think that amarok 1.4.2 will probably go into it, too.  when it's released, and gets packaged03:10
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zeredHobbsee: stable version I hope ?! :-) It's a test box...03:10
intelikeyTheMoebius yes you can indeed put an icon on the desktop  for trash.03:10
crazy_penguinGood afternoon all!03:11
Hobbseezered: yeah.  at least i recall that's the way it gets done.03:11
zeredHobbsee: yeah : 1.4.103:11
Hobbseebesides, a new amarok is unlikely to kill anythign major :P03:11
zeredI'm scanning my drive !03:12
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zeredI see kde 3.5.4 is available for kubuntu. In what repo ?03:12
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zeredHobbsee: cool, I can listen web radio now !03:14
Hobbseezered: :)03:14
Hobbseezered: see kubuntu.org03:14
crazy_penguinzered: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354 dapper main03:14
Hobbseezered: it has newer repos of such things, often.03:14
zeredcrazy_penguin: hi. Thanx03:14
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Hobbseeer....oh yeah, they didnt.  kde 3.5.4 came out before something was done with my packages, making my fix obselete.03:15
crazy_penguinis using someone the ubuntu mailing list in here?03:16
zeredThanx guys for amarok, I have my collection and my web radios ! Cool !03:16
intelikeywell maybe there is a new crowd in here now let me ask my question again.    anyone know a solution to a grub-install /dev/hda  giving this error ?      Unknown partition table signature03:16
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zeredcrazy_penguin: no problems with this kde ?03:16
zeredno HARD problems ?03:16
crazy_penguinwith 3.5.3 no03:17
crazy_penguinthat i don't know03:17
crazy_penguini don't have any03:17
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zeredcrazy_penguin: thanx. I had 3.5.3 under mandriva with no problem.03:17
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zeredAnother question. I cant change icons for my link on my desktop.03:18
intelikeylooks like a statement to me.03:19
intelikeyor two fo them.03:19
intelikeyof03:19
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zeredHow can we change icons for link on the desktop ?03:21
intelikeyanyone got ideas about    grub-install /dev/hda    giving this error ?      Unknown partition table signature     The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.03:21
spcnope, I started up vnc4server, still "failed to connect to server"03:21
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intelikeyzered i right click and select properties.03:21
zeredintelikey: hi. Icon is not accessible int his panel03:22
intelikeypanel ???   you said link on the desktop   not panel.03:23
rob_hello, i'm looking for a simple program to play mp3 files over an unmounted smb shares. Kmplayer and Kaffeine can do this, but i'm looking for something like xmms..03:23
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TheHighChildzered: When you right click and go to properties, click on the current icon and it should offer alternative and searchable icons03:23
zeredintelikey: when I access propreties panel for this link I can't access this icon.03:23
rob_can anybody suggest a nico program that can do this?03:24
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zeredI suppose it's a problem with rights.03:26
zeredBut if I can add link on my desktop I suppose I have right to change icons ?!03:26
intelikeyzered i don't really understand your delema, and probably couldn't help if i did.  i start up a gui one or two times a week...  (console user)   but in kde i right click the icon on the desktop,  select properties,   in the popup window i again left click the icon,  and there is another popup window to select the new icon in.     if it truely is a permission issue.  in the konsole run this  sudo chown <your user name> -R ./03:28
intelikeyreplacing <*> accordingly.03:29
zeredintelikey: I knwo this. But with kubuntu I can't access icon. I can't click it03:29
intelikeyzered idk.  i can.03:29
intelikey???   sorry.03:30
intelikey</shrugs>03:30
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zeredintelikey: I think it's a rights problem. I have change it and I have to go so I restart my kde and I come back soon03:31
zeredthanx folks03:31
intelikeyhope it works out for you03:32
MilhousePunkRockBluesKaj: I got the GParted LiveCD in my Laptop already03:32
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BluesKajcool MilhousePunkRock, I thought it was included , but I wasn't sure03:32
MilhousePunkRockBut I am not really sure, what sizes would be best for the future partitions03:33
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BluesKajsince I had it on a sepreate cd for 2 yrs03:33
MilhousePunkRockBluesKaj: I think it (or QtParted) is on the *ubuntu Live CD too thogh03:33
MilhousePunkRockthough*03:33
MilhousePunkRockHere are the facts: The HDD is 30 GB, I upgraded the RAM to a total size of 512 now, so I might want to increase my swap partition...03:34
intelikeynon-gui that ^03:34
BluesKajuse 600MB or so for swap , and depending on what you want to do ...video stuff reqiures alotta room I went witha 30 gig partition for the system03:34
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MilhousePunkRockMy current /dev/hda1 is 27.23 GiB in size, 9.78 GiB used (from my Kubuntu install)03:35
MilhousePunkRockI want to install another distro, thus I need another partition of about 10 GB03:35
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BluesKajok , is it a notebook ?03:36
MilhousePunkRockyes03:36
intelikeyif i was going to make it that big.... i'd probably mke2fs /dev/hda  and  if i used swap make a swap file.03:36
intelikeynot sujesting that btw03:36
MilhousePunkRockHibernation and such is set up to use the swap03:37
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MilhousePunkRockI am thinking about making a "common home folder" though03:37
BluesKajare planning on adual boot with windows or just another linux distro03:37
intelikeywell i'm went.03:37
MilhousePunkRockOr maybe a data partition for my own documents and stuff, since I am not sure if a "shared home" makes sense for 2 distros that will use different WMs03:38
MilhousePunkRockBluesKaj: No more Windows, no... WGA drove me away from it03:38
BluesKajlol03:39
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MilhousePunkRockI bought this Laptop (used) _with_ an XP Pro License... Still that WGA tool notified my I was the victim of software piracy03:39
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MilhousePunkRockI passed the Genuine Test using Wine though... :-D03:40
MilhousePunkRockAny ideas on the home/data/documents partition idea anyone?03:41
BluesKajIlost my Windows XP thru ascrewup using partition magic and the recovery parition was some how corrupted so I couldn't remount my legal version of windows03:41
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MilhousePunkRockYou could have ordered a recovery CD from your computer's manufacturer though, BluesKaj03:42
BluesKajmy fault of course, but DL'd an illegal version with a validation crack and then applied my serial and haven't had any update validation probs since03:43
thiagotfalguem que escreva em portugues pode me dar uma ajuda??03:43
MilhousePunkRock!pt03:43
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.03:43
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pacohola03:43
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BluesKajI made a recovery cd as per the mfg instructions but it merely boots the recovery partition ...my recovery partition eas corrupted by my stupidity using that so called partition magic software03:45
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MilhousePunkRockI don't wanna mess with the partitions again, so I better have the perfect plan to do it once and forever now...03:47
_bbeckI was wondering if anyone here might be able to look at this pdf, it's looks broken on Breezy with kpdf 0.5.2.  Thanks.  http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/silu/sports/w-volley/auto_pdf/2005Season.pdf03:47
htrakihello to all03:47
MilhousePunkRockhello htraki03:48
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htrakiMilhousePukRock:How are U today?03:48
HardcopiI can't get the live cd to boot, it just comes up with an endless string of translated/ata errors. I searched the forums and just cannot find the trouble. Any ideas?03:49
MilhousePunkRockI am alright so far, htraki03:49
BluesKajyeah MilhousePunkRock, Ithought I knew what i was doing but i got bit on the butt for thinking that way :)03:49
MilhousePunkRockHardcopi: Did you run the Self-Test on the boot prompt?03:49
MilhousePunkRockBluesKaj: Go ahead, discourage me...03:49
htrakiHardcopi:Thow away the CD03:49
rob_anybody got any suggestion for a xmms like audio player that plays directly of unmounted samba shares?03:49
htrakiI meant throw03:50
HardcopiThis is my 2nd cd. I tried burnign the dvd then the cd and I have never had a bad disc burned by this drive before cd or dvd.03:50
MilhousePunkRockHardcopi: Maybe you just did not notice... Is the MD5 sum of the downloaded iso what it's supposed to be?03:50
HardcopiI'll try the self test though. Yeah, the MD5 said it was ok. I will try the self test. Thanks.03:51
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htrakirob_:The problem is without mounting FS no chanche to read a file03:52
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shadeofgreyhey everyboidy03:52
shadeofgreyi have aquestion03:52
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htrakihello shadeofgrey03:52
zeredHi again03:53
zeredNo problemo with kde 3.5.403:53
shadeofgreyis there any way to move the taskbar list of open programs and the 4 window selector thing that are usuyally rihght next to the time to the top of the screen by any chance?03:53
zeredBut no solution for my icon for my link on my desktop03:53
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BluesKajshadeofgrey, right click on the panel . choose config panel03:55
rob_htraki: well, it should be possible by using KIOslaves. Kaffeine and Kmplayer play directly from an unmounted smb share without problems.03:55
rob_The only problem is that for mp3's, i prefer a xmms/winamp like application03:56
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htrakirob_:I think kioslaves does the mounting job 4 U03:57
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htrakiThats why kde based apps can read the fs03:58
htrakitried amaroK??03:58
MilhousePunkRockHow come I do not have a seperate /boot partition?03:58
rob_yes i have, but amarok crashes when i drop an mp3 from a smb share in the playlist..03:59
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rob_MillhousePunkRock: because it is nog necesarry to have one...03:59
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narvik86hello03:59
htrakixmms like mp3 player is bmp,tried too?03:59
htrakibmp:beep media palyer04:00
rob_hmm, not yet...04:00
rob_i'm gonna try that one now04:00
htrakigtk2 based app04:00
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htrakiMilhouserock:Because U didnot created any04:01
htrakiIt is not req to create sep. /boot part04:02
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narvik86does kubuntu/ubuntu has got any additional repositiory with java, flash etc ?04:03
rob_htraki: tried beep media player.... didn't work either...04:03
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narvik86rob_, http://bmpx.beep-media-player.org/site/Downloads#Ubuntu04:03
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htrakinarivik86:flash player dont have any deb on the net,java is downloadable04:04
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Dr_WillisHmm.. Trying to get Firefox to start Maxamized - but the windows settings tools dont seem to be affecting that.04:04
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HardcopiCD checked out fine with the self test, it still getting "translated ata stat/err  device dm-0" :(04:05
narvik86but i heard that there is official repositorty with that, but have to be added by user04:06
htrakinarvik86: yes,true04:07
narvik86my firefox remember last window state, so its usually maximized04:07
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narvik86htraki, do you know where can i find it?04:07
htrakiYes, iam browsing for the link04:08
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narvik86ok thanks04:08
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htrakihttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java page will U find every info U need04:09
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carlosgo go go...04:10
carlosalgum brazuca ae?04:10
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[BR] CarLos_:D04:10
[BR] CarLos_kuvuntu rlz04:11
htrakinarvik86: In your sources.list did U added multiverse and the universe repos?04:11
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[BR] CarLos_*kubuntu04:11
narvik86htraki, let me see04:11
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Billybobbobhey04:12
Admiral_Chicagoanyone know a calendar app?04:12
Billybobbobbelgium ppl here?04:12
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=== Billybobbob lol
Admiral_Chicagosoulrider, your system working?04:13
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Admiral_ChicagoI know you were changing stuff around yesterday04:13
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soulriderhi04:14
soulriderye, its working great now04:14
rob_narvik86: hmm, bmpx doesn't work at all on my pc, do you know if ik should be able to play smb:// files directly?04:14
soulrideri got tons of help yesterday =D04:14
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Admiral_Chicagocool04:14
narvik86rob_ don't know, cant get my samba to work04:14
htrakiAdmiral, evolution is 4 U04:15
Billybobbobis it possible for using my files in xp from my kubuntu?04:15
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soulriderhey rr7204:15
soulridererr04:16
Billybobbobhelp i'm a noob in linux04:16
Admiral_ChicagoBillybobbob, yes04:16
Admiral_Chicagowait04:16
soulriderhe left =(04:16
Billybobbobk04:16
rr72what soulrider?04:16
soulriderBillybobbob: whats two of us04:16
Billybobbobhehe04:16
soulriderah, youc hanged you nick :P04:16
Admiral_Chicagoyou want to see your kubuntu files in xp?04:16
Billybobbobno04:16
soulriderim gonna try and install ET on this machine adn see what happens :P04:16
rr72Chicago FTW!04:16
Billybobbobfrom xp in this04:16
Admiral_Chicagoxp files on kubuntu?04:16
Billybobbobyes04:16
Admiral_Chicagorr72, you from chicago?04:17
rr72Burbs04:17
Admiral_Chicagocheck out #ubuntu-chicago!04:17
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Admiral_Chicagothats the LoCo team we started04:17
rr72noones here04:17
Dr_Willis!ntfs04:17
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse04:17
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Admiral_Chicago!fstab04:17
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions04:17
htrakinarvik86:these are ok.04:17
Admiral_ChicagoBillybobbob, check out those links04:17
[BR] CarLos_:D04:17
Billybobbobk thnx04:18
htrakinarvik86: U left the main repo04:18
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narvik86htraki ok, i pasted only few lines from file04:18
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soulridererr run files were opened this way tight?:  /.nameoffile04:19
rr72ok i thought it was only ubuntu and kubuntu, whats eduntu and exuntu?04:19
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soulriderand i had to chmod them first04:20
Dr_Willis!xububtu04:20
htrakinarvik86: apt-get update command, or adept refresh04:20
ubotuI know nothing about xububtu - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu04:20
Dr_Willis!xubuntu04:20
ubotuXubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop04:20
[BR] CarLos_bua... Kubuntu don't have my sound driver... :'(04:20
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htrakiCarlos: what sound card do U have?04:21
[BR] CarLos_ALC88004:21
grothesk[BR] CarLos_: kubuntu has no soundriver at all.04:21
grotheskBut ALSA has...04:21
narvik86i thought it is oss?04:21
[BR] CarLos_I got a driver on Asus' site04:21
[BR] CarLos_and I'm trying compile04:22
htrakiMotherboard's chipsets matters04:22
grothesk[BR] CarLos_: Link to Asus site?04:22
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htrakiWhat kind of chipset do U have?04:22
[BR] CarLos_one moment04:22
Ace2007how do i install all the dev packages needed to compile vlc, i think its like sudo dpkg build something vlc04:23
grotheskAce2007: Why will you compile it yourself?04:23
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Dr_Willisfire up the package manager, search for vlc, and any -dev pscages with the same vlc-dev name04:23
Ace2007grothesk: I want to enable the qt4 interface, dvd and wmv904:24
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htrakiAce2007:Mplayer already plays them04:25
Ace2007i know but it doesn't have a qt interface04:25
htrakiJust download w32codecs package04:25
Ace2007htraki: I don't like the skins you can get for it04:25
Ace2007the skins don't match my desktop :(04:26
htrakiTry kmplayer or kaffiene04:26
rob_Ace2007: kmplayer is a mplayer frontend... works perfectly and has a nice kde layou04:26
Ace2007please stop giving me alternatives04:27
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Ace2007i just want to know how to install the dev packages needed to compile it04:27
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Dr_Willis!apt-get04:27
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)04:27
Dr_Willistheres some command i recall that ive never used. :P that rebuilds the package from source.. so that will install all the needed dev stuff.04:28
grotheskAce2007: Start compiling it an have a look at the error messages.04:28
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htrakiFire up adept and install build-essentials04:28
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Dr_Williswell buil-essentials is the minimal tools. not  the 1000's of -dev packages that may be needed  :)04:29
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htrakiafter that U have to all the packages U need to compile vlc04:30
htrakiI wish U good work04:30
grotheskhtraki: That is (for sure) not right.04:30
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htrakiRead vlc's homepage what do U need 4 compiling04:31
grothesk[BR] CarLos_: Still interested in your audiodriver?04:33
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Ace2007Does anyone know how to stop konqueror going to wrong commands i type in ALT+F2?04:34
narvik86which sound system is used in kubuntu? oss or alsa? how can i know which is using now?04:34
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Admiral_Chicagonarvik86, I use OSS04:34
Admiral_ChicagoAce2007, configure shortcuts04:35
htrakiAll linuxes are using alsa, many of them in OSS emulation04:35
Admiral_Chicagoin the settings04:35
htrakiafter 2.6 kernel of course04:35
[BR] CarLos_grothesk: my chipset is intel 915PL04:36
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vinibaggioHi! I'm having trouble to use java-based applications. I'm trying to use jEdit but I can't type double quotes ("), only single quotes '. I'm using us-international keyboard layout...04:37
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htrakiAlright, south Bridge ICH5/6 should have to work04:37
MetaMorfoziSQt: 3.3.604:37
MetaMorfoziSKDE: 3.5.404:37
MetaMorfoziSkde-config: 1.004:37
MetaMorfoziSoujeah04:37
Ace2007Admiral_Chicago: Where? in kcontrol?04:38
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Admiral_Chicagonolte, open up konqueror and look at the settings up in the menu04:38
Admiral_Chicagoand its configure shortcuts04:38
htrakivinibaggio:did u install sun-java runtime?04:38
vinibaggiohtraki: I have both JRE and JDK from sun04:39
htrakitried other java editor progarms?04:39
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vinibaggiohtraki: netbeans04:40
nikknehi, how can I find out which packages were updated during the last two days?04:40
nikkneand which files they have touched?04:40
vinibaggioI'm using eclipse atm, and it works with double quotes, since its GTK. But Swing applications like jedit and netbeans dont work04:41
htrakinikkne: Fire up adept and do refresh04:41
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Ace2007rob_: You know kmplayer can it go full screen on double click of the video area?04:42
grothesk[BR] CarLos_: What does 'lspci' tell you about your sound?04:42
nikknehtraki: I've meant which were updated on my machine, not in the repository04:42
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htrakinikkene: No automatic update in the system, U have to do it by hand04:43
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[BR] CarLos_grothesk: I will see04:45
nikkneok, lets rephrase: i want to see which packages were downloaded and installed on my system, during the last two days04:45
nikknewhich commands should I look for?04:45
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clintc_laptopany kmail users out there?04:45
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nikknewhere is the log for apt-get?04:45
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gplfighterclintc_laptop: yes, why?04:46
htrakinikkene: /var/log/dpkg.log file will help U04:46
nikknehtraki: thanks04:46
[BR] CarLos_grothesk:04:46
[BR] CarLos_Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High De04:46
[BR] CarLos_finition Audio Controller (rev 05)04:46
clintc_laptopl really like kmail except for one thing - I can't seem to delete a message from an open message window04:47
linuxgooberazureus does a lot of crashing on my laptop. I have all the required and recommended packages installed? waht is the problem?04:47
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gplfighteri'll check it04:47
clintc_laptopgplfighter: I don't like reading email in the preview pane04:47
gplfighterk04:47
htrakilinuxgoober: I think instalbel program04:47
clintc_laptopgplfighter: I've searched high and low for a setting or a way to add delete to the toolbar... no luck so far04:48
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Ace2007Admiral_Chicago: Still won't work04:48
Admiral_ChicagoAce2007, what do you want to do?04:48
Admiral_Chicagoexactly04:48
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Ace2007If i make an error in ALT+F2 it gets searched for by konqueror, i just want the error saying hey buddy wrong command try again04:48
grothesk[BR] CarLos_: lsmod | grep intel04:48
gplfighterclintc_laptop: i think it's impossible?04:49
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shadedpastcan some on help me? neither of my cd drives appear in media04:49
ubuntu_Hi!04:49
clintc_laptopgplfighter: I was coming to the same conclusion :(04:49
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Ace2007Admiral_Chicago: like if i type google, i don't want to end up at google i want an error04:49
[BR] CarLos_grothesk: snd_hda_intel and snd_hda_codec04:49
luisfexit04:49
htrakishadedpast:Did U mount a media?04:50
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Admiral_Chicagohmm04:50
shadedpastno04:50
grothesk[BR] CarLos_: This already is the right driver.04:50
shadedpast???04:50
Admiral_ChicagoI don't know man, I thought you were trying to change your shortcuts04:50
Admiral_Chicagosorry04:50
Ace2007Admiral_Chicago: I changed the browser to opera so its just trys to open with whatever the current browser is04:50
Billybobbobnext time ppl and linux rulezzzz04:50
shadedpast no how what do u mean?04:51
clintc_laptopgplfighter: thanks for taking a look, I might to sumit that as a feature request04:51
Ace2007Admiral_Chicago: ok thanks anyway04:51
gplfightergood idea :-)04:51
Ace2007I know #kde will know04:51
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htrakiCarlos, what mp3 player do U use?04:52
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[BR] CarLos_htraki: amarok04:53
htrakilets see, what output did U setup.04:53
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[BR] CarLos_htraki: okz04:53
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[BR] CarLos_htraki: its auto-detect04:54
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Dr_WillisCool.. i just found about     apt:/    :)04:55
htrakiopen the list, it should be arts,alsa,oss or something like that04:55
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linuxgooberwhen i run sudo apt-get upgrade dist-update i get a message saying that linux-image-386 and linux-restricted-modules-386 have been kept back. what04:57
linuxgoobers up04:57
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htrakilinuxgobber: apt-get update for repo udate ...04:57
krautmoin04:58
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htraki..and dist-update is for complette update dont do it04:58
soulriderguys,w hatw as the command to open a .un file? i tried /. ./ and stuff like that.....04:58
Dr_Willisa .run ya mean?04:58
soulrideryea04:58
linuxgooberi ran sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade dist-update04:58
Dr_Willissh whatever.run04:58
soulrider.run04:58
soulriderah04:58
soulriderthanks04:58
Dr_Willisor chmod +x whatever.run04:58
Dr_Willis./whatever.run04:58
soulrideri did chmod04:59
soulriderand tried ./ but didnt work04:59
Dr_Willisit should of. :P04:59
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jontecHow can I ger sudo privelidges inside Konqueror.04:59
jontec?04:59
[BR] CarLos_htraki: alsa, oss, esd and file04:59
soulriderjontec04:59
soulrideropen run command and type04:59
soulriderkdesu konqueror04:59
Jucatojontec: launch Konqueror a04:59
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Jucatoeheh soulrider beat me to it05:00
soulrider=D05:00
htrakiCarlos: Switch off arts daemon in the system settings, or install amarok-arts plugin05:00
[BR] CarLos_okz05:00
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soulriderDr_Willis: i get this error:bash: /.: is a directory05:01
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Dr_Willishmmm what are ya typing exactly? could bethe script is messed up05:02
soulridermauro@tupperware:/media/sda3$ /. et-linux-2.55.x86.run05:02
soulriderbash: /.: is a directory05:02
Dr_Willis ./command to run05:02
narvik86./et-05:02
Dr_Willisnot /. :P05:02
nnn0slashdot05:02
Dr_Willisand sh et-*05:02
Dr_Willisshould work also. ive done it befor.05:03
soulriderah lol05:03
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mani_hi everybody !05:03
soulriderheh, not i get permission denied, although i CHMOD it05:03
htrakihi mani_05:03
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mani_i need some help in encoding avi to dvd and then creating menus05:04
Dr_Willisthen i would guess ya chmoded it wrong05:04
mani_how do i go about doing it ?05:04
bojanare the kubuntu packages for kde 3.5.4 fixed?  or do they still have the default settings bug?05:04
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htrakimani_:use avidemux,but no menus05:05
mani_htraki: will it help me encode the avis to mpeg ?05:05
Jucatobojan: AFAIK, they're ok now05:05
htrakiyes05:05
mani_htraki: should i do someting like sudo apt-get install avidemux ?05:06
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soulrideri CHMOD it with +x and +X and i still get that05:06
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htrakiyes, but u can get it with adept if have added universe and multiverse repo in sources.list05:07
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mani_htraki, please tell me how to add universe and multiverse repo ?05:07
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htrakiOpen /etc/sources.list with an editor first05:08
uniqmani_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu this will help you :)05:08
htrakiafter that should look like this ...05:09
htrakioops, wrong path.. the right is /etc/apt/sources.list05:10
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htrakideb http://at.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted multiverse universe05:10
rr72what is the cmd to upgrade to dapper?05:10
soulriderDr_Willis: i tried with xhmod +c and +X adns tillca nta cess it05:11
Dr_Willis!upgrade05:11
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.05:11
mani_htraki, i have opened sources.list in kate... what should i do next ?05:11
Dr_Willissoulrider,  51% done. :P05:11
soulriderO.O05:11
soulriderspeed?05:11
Dr_Willissoulrider,  53% done05:11
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Dr_Willis55%05:11
Dr_Willis:P05:11
soulriderNICE05:11
htrakicompare with mine ...05:11
Dr_Willis421KB/Sec05:11
soulrideri download at 50 so ti takes a but longer05:11
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Dr_WillisClan Kubuntu! :P05:12
htrakishould mani_:look like this..05:12
soulriderlol could be cool Dr_Willis05:12
htrakideb http://at.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted multiverse universe05:12
soulridercan i chmod from krusader?05:12
soulriderkrusader root-mode that is05:12
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Dr_Willissh whatever.run dident work?05:12
mani_htraki, the first line is: deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted05:13
Dr_WillisYou are thinking in the 'windows way'     "THis dident work.. lets try somthong  else thats  just MAY work" :)05:13
Dr_Willis75%05:13
soulridererr05:13
soulrideri lvoe you! <305:13
soulridersh worked :P05:14
soulrideri feel like a moron now05:14
htrakiadd universe multiverse to the end05:14
Dr_Willis i told ya that how long ago? :P05:14
soulrideri know...05:14
soulriderthe thing is alst time i installed i used ./ and it worked05:14
soulriderwhich is weird05:14
Dr_Willisif its chmoded +x it should work05:14
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Dr_Willissince it reads the first line of the file as to what to run.05:14
Dr_Willisand if ya read that file. it proberly starts with  #!/bin/sh05:15
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soulrideri get ane rror whne trying to install, woot05:15
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Dr_Willis98% done. :P05:15
[BR] CarLos_htraki: I will restart.. the artsd engine for amarok don'r appear05:16
[BR] CarLos_thx05:16
soulriderlol05:16
soulrideri went to the ID software site adn it sais that to fix the rror i gotta...05:17
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soulriderThis may happening on old quake3 setups. Get the latest one, it will work right ( currently linuxq3apoint-1.32b-3.x86.run, which you can find on id's ftp )05:17
soulriderwhich doesnt help AT aLL05:17
mani_htraki, i have added. i saved the file. then i opened adept and searched... it says no results05:17
htrakimani_: Do refresh in adept05:17
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Dr_Willissoulrider,  whats the error?05:18
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soulridersetup.sh: line 143:  8294 Segmentation fault      "$setup" "$@" 2>>$NULL05:18
soulriderThe setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.105:18
htrakimani_: Or do apt-get update asroot05:18
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kbrooks!RAM05:18
ubotuI know nothing about RAM - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu05:18
kbrooks!ram05:18
ubotuI know nothing about ram - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu05:18
kbrooks!free05:18
ubotufreedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing05:18
kbrookshmm05:18
soulrideryay! new kdesktop for donwload05:18
Kr4t05!botabuse05:18
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops05:18
kbrooksi need to know how much RAM i have left05:19
Dr_Willissoulrider,  let me see if mine instlls05:19
soulriderk05:19
soulriderrr72: had this problem too and i think he couldnt fix it :/05:19
Dr_Willisits intalling :P05:19
uniqkbrooks: 'free -m'05:20
soulrider.......05:20
soulriderhang on05:20
rr72soulrider~ what?05:20
soulridercould you instal et?05:20
rr72don't think  so05:20
soulriderhttp://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/q3a/index.html#glibc05:20
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kbrooksuniq: what is the total amount of fre RAM05:20
uniqkbrooks: free+cached.05:20
soulriderwhat if i follow: Installation on BSD05:20
Dr_Willishttp://files.filefront.com/Enemy+Territory+for+Linux/;852003;;/fileinfo.html              is where i downloded mine from05:20
soulriderrtcwfiles.com ?05:21
kbrooks88 MB05:21
soulriderlet me get an md5 sum05:21
uniqkbrooks: i tend to use 'htop' for this. it is more visualized.05:21
rr72htop FTW!05:21
kbrooks"htop"?05:21
soulrideryes thats ht eone i got05:22
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soulriderand i gotta go have lunch now, ill bbl05:22
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soulridersee ya!05:22
Dr_Willisintstlled fine, works fine for me...05:22
uniqkbrooks: yes, you might have to install it. but it is nice. :)05:22
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Dr_Willishtop is nice.05:23
Dr_Willis:P05:23
kbrookswhat is htop?05:23
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uniqa more adavanced version of 'top'05:23
uniq!info htop05:23
ubotuhtop: interactive processes viewer. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.6-1 (dapper), package size 42 kB, installed size 164 kB05:23
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eduardanybody work with qemu and kqemu?05:24
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luke_how do i enable the restricted repository in /etc/apt/sources.list? i can only find out how to enable the universe and multiverse05:26
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abattoirluke_: the same way you enable universe and multiverse... just add 'restricted' in the same line...( i think it should be there by default)05:29
luke_ah okies thanks abattoir05:30
abattoirluke_: no problem :)05:30
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luke_hmm installing the fglrx driver isnt working05:35
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luke_can anyone help me install ati drivers please?05:37
narvik86im looking for link for you05:37
luke_im using the unofficial guide, but it didnt work05:38
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Admiral_Chicago!ati05:38
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto05:38
Admiral_Chicagoluke_, check that05:38
luke_thanks =)05:38
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narvik86my link it is :)05:39
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luke_these instructions are the ones that didnt work =/05:40
narvik86wait a second for another link05:41
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narvik86luke_ http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide05:42
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narvik86i used first method and it works for me05:42
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luke_hmm mabye i didnt enable the restricted repositorys right05:44
draikanyone else here going to be in the #ubuntu-classroom?05:44
JucatoI will! I hope I can stay up that long05:44
Jucatoit's almost midnight here...05:45
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Jucatoumm... there was an update for kubuntu-desktop? what was it about? does it fix anything?05:45
bl3ssinghello everyone.05:45
bl3ssingsure jucato ...05:46
bl3ssingit is updating your kubuntu 5.10 to kubuntu 6.0.6 (just do it, it deserves ...)05:46
draikHello Jucato05:46
bl3ssingJucato, but I rather recommend you with the alternative ...05:46
Jucatoumm..05:46
Jucatoit was just a few minutes ago?05:46
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luke_my sources list is broke05:47
bl3ssingok guys. Here's my request: how can I compile a tar.gz file so that I could use the compiled files ... as a certain application05:47
bl3ssing?05:47
narvik86luke_ i can show you my sources.list if yu want05:47
draikJucato, the class will begin in ~3h15m05:47
bl3ssingluke_, I can give you mine source list if you want?05:47
bl3ssingluke_, I can give you my source list if you want?05:48
bl3ssing:D05:48
Jucatodraik: hope I can stay up that long.. :-D05:48
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luke_navik86: when i do /etc/apt/sources.list it comes back blank, will that fix it?05:48
draikare you a registered user?05:48
narvik86what comes blank??05:48
Sikonis it possible to add custom folders to the "system" menu which is on the taskbar by default?05:48
JucatoThe update to kubuntu-desktop I was talking about was just made available a few minutes/hours ago? the one from version 0.85 to 0.86.05:48
luke_sources.list05:49
Jucatodraik: I was under the impression that I don't need to register...05:49
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draikJucato, you don't have to. I'm just saying that I can save the lecture and send it to you through /msg05:49
soulriderSikon: right click and then edit menu05:49
bl3ssingluke_, thisi s for you: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1978005:50
Sikonnot the K menu05:50
Jucatoah yes, my nick is registered if that's what you mean?05:50
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Sikonthe one whose icon is a computer05:50
luke_thanks bl3ssing =D05:50
draikyup, that's what I meant. :)05:50
capricorn_tmHi there^__^05:50
Jucatobut I'll try to attend. it's the first IRC meeting I will ever attend05:50
capricorn_tmHi Jucato^_^05:50
bl3ssingnp luke_  ... hope it will work to you ( i have kubuntu 6.0.6 [just a few days ago updated] )05:51
Jucatohi capricorn_tm05:51
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luke_yeh i got it yesterday =)05:51
Jucatothis is the first time I've actually used IRC again in almost 5 years05:51
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bl3ssingluke_,  ... heheeheh.. That's grat. Than ... just copy my sourses.list into yours, and everything'll be more than perfect (not really, only God is perfect, right?)05:52
capricorn_tmI have  aquestion dudes, My laptop keyboard is giving his soul, so I plugged an external keyboarda but it does not work, do I have to change something in teh settings?05:52
luke_hehe true bl3ssing05:52
narvik86luke_ see mine sources.list?05:52
luke_yeh thanks as well =)05:53
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luke_i couldnt talk cos of being unregistered05:53
narvik86ok  :) i new to IRC05:53
narvik86i'm*05:53
bl3ssingcapricorn_tm, ... the external keyboard (if it is on usb connected) will make some problems at its first time using, but ... unplug and plug it again ... and it will work.05:53
luke_me too lol05:53
stefhttp://www.domeinen-online.nl05:54
mani_hi all ! can anyone tell me how i can convert my avi files to mpeg (so i can author a DVD) ?05:54
thompai got a badly damaged cd need to rip it05:54
bl3ssingstef, can you give us some english websites, please?05:54
bl3ssing:D05:54
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rr72after apt-get dist-upgrade i don't need to do a normal upgrade right?05:55
bl3ssingmani_, hacking or becoming a real author?05:55
bl3ssing:D05:55
thompai need something that will rip damaged cds05:55
bl3ssingrr72, NOPE!05:55
rr72well i mean i will but not right after05:55
mani_bl3ssing, kinda both05:55
bl3ssingrr72, if you have followed the rules from the website of kubuntu, you won't be asked to do a normal one ... (it will be a normal one from the first upgrading :D)05:56
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rr72if u do a normal one then ur screwed, it wont boot05:56
bl3ssingmani_, ... sshhhhh (maybe there's some FBI guys here and ... what are we going to do with them?) We can do smthng (sending them to their office and taking their internet connection OFF).:D05:56
bl3ssingrr72, you don't mean it, right?05:57
bl3ssingwhat are you doing rr72 ? what kind of updating?05:57
capricorn_tm@bl3ssing That's it? Actually I do that but it keeps giving me this message "device not accepting address 30, error -110"05:57
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narvik86luke_ are you trying to install ati?05:57
rr72breezy to dapper05:57
luke_narvik86: yep05:57
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narvik86luke_ good luck! first method?05:58
luke_narvik86 thanks! =), yep hop it works this time05:58
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capricorn_tm@bl3ssing That's it? Actually I do that but it keeps giving me this message "device not accepting address 30, error -110"05:58
Jucatoanyone using KDE 3.5.4 have trouble displaying unmounted partitions?05:58
bl3ssingcapricorn_tm, what kind of keyboard're you using?05:58
bl3ssingthe manufactoring ...?05:59
bl3ssingcapricorn_tm, I can READ without any problems (once it will be enough) :D ... hehhehehe05:59
capricorn_tmThat seems to be the problem, it is a PS2 with an adapter to USB. when I plug it in, the lights on it go on for a second than off and then nothing05:59
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capricorn_tmsorry bl3ssing, wrong touch :P05:59
bl3ssingthat's why you have problems (conflicts between ps2/usb adapt06:00
luke_gah it cant find the linux modules06:00
bl3ssingdon't be sorry capricorn_tm, it is ok. :)06:00
luke_*linux-restricted-modules06:00
capricorn_tmThinl teh PS2 adapter is faulty?06:00
bl3ssingluke_, manage repositories in Adept.06:00
bl3ssingyeap capricorn_tm ... even in WindowsXP is the same.06:00
bl3ssing:D06:00
narvik86uname -r  ?06:01
Jucatoluksan_: are you looking for the updated linux restricted modules?06:01
bl3ssingin windowsXP finally it is working, but still giving problems every since in a while.06:01
capricorn_tmOuch, I suppose I will be able to solve that only monday then, my USB keyboard is at the job place06:01
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Jucatoluke_: are you looking for the updated linux restricted modules?06:01
bl3ssinghehehehe capricorn_tm06:01
luke_jucato i think so, am trying to install the ati drivers06:01
JucatoOh, you have to add "restricted" to the security-updates repository06:02
capricorn_tmYou know, My brother bought me two Italian Keybaordas as I'm in Belgium  and he bought both PS2 and so here I am06:02
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capricorn_tmOh well, I'll get the USB that I have at work at home and use the PS2 on the job06:02
luke_jucato can i do that in adept?06:02
capricorn_tmEasy06:02
Jucatoluke_: yep06:03
Jucatoluke_: open up Adept, go to the Adept menu (first one to the left) then Manage Repositories06:03
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luke_jucato ok am there06:03
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Jucatoluke_: then look for the "deb -------- security-updates main" line06:03
luke_jucato i see it06:04
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Jucatoclick on the word main so that it will becomed editable06:04
bl3ssingyou're right capricorn_tm ... Enjoy your updating ...06:04
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bl3ssinghow can I compile a tar.gz file so that I could use the compiled files ... as a certain application06:04
capricorn_tmOne other question since we are talking updates, can i use the stabel packages of debian to upgrade kubuntu tu KDE 3.5.4?06:04
Jucatoluke_:  then add the word "restricted" to main so that it will become "main restricted" (there's a space in between)06:05
luke_jucato, hang on i have no security updates main, i habe dapper-security06:05
Jucatooh my bad06:05
JucatoI meant dapper-security06:05
luke_oh ok np =)06:05
luke_so where do i add restricted?06:06
capricorn_tmKubuntu breezy I mean06:06
luke_oh i see it now, done it06:06
Jucatoluke_: click on the word "main" so that you can edit it. then add "restricted" to it so that it becomes "main restricted" (space in between)06:06
luke_jucato, okies have done it, do i do fetch updates now?06:07
Jucatoclick on Apply first06:07
Jucatoto save the changes06:07
Jucatothen Fetch Updates. the latest restricted modules would then be available (linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-xxx)06:08
luke_okies,06:08
luke_jocato thanks man =)06:08
Jucatonp. just thank me if it was successful :-D06:08
luke_haha okies =p06:08
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rr72how long does a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade take?06:08
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luke_can i install fglrx from adept?06:10
Jucatodepends on how much needs to be upgraded06:10
Jucatoanyone using KDE 3.5.4 have trouble displaying unmounted partitions?06:10
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capricorn_tmI would like tio upgarde but I have brezy ^_^''06:10
narvik86yes06:10
capricorn_tmcan i use the stable Debian packages to upgrade?06:11
narvik86luke_ yes06:11
Jucatocapricorn_tm: no. it's not recommended to mix repositories06:11
capricorn_tmI knew it -_-''' Now i HAVE TO INSTALL DAPPER06:11
capricorn_tmSoory caps06:12
luke_narvik86 okies thanks =)06:12
steveireIs that such a problem capricorn_tm?06:12
capricorn_tmLook guys, is dapper any good? I heard horror tales on how Multimedia does not work at all06:12
grotheskcapricorn_tm: As in most linux distributions you have to care for yourself.06:13
Admiral_Chicagocapricorn_tm, probably from people that didn't know what they were doing06:13
Admiral_Chicagodapper is awesome06:13
capricorn_tmI'm for upgrading, but after all the tinkering I did on breezy losing the fact to be able to watch WMV ( God forgive me, i used the W word) in konqueror would bug me a bit yes06:13
steveireFewer people who have a problem free experience with it will think to rant about it capricorn_tm. I get on fine with it06:13
JucatoKubuntu Dapper is better than Breezy for me06:13
Lynourecapricorn_tm: you are on Kubunt channel, most people here like it, I bet. :)06:13
JucatoIt's defionitely faster and more stable on my system06:13
Lynourecapricorn_tm: I like it, too. Proprietary stuff requires some proprietary codexs but that is handly surprising06:14
capricorn_tmIf you guys do say so, okay, i'm off to download the Cd, point is I had teh impression it wasn't stable... Eugenia On OSnews bashed it very badly but after all Eugenia lately seem always on PMS :P06:14
Admiral_Chicagocapricorn_tm, I have had little problems with Dapper06:15
Admiral_Chicagomuch less than Windows06:15
Admiral_Chicagoand less than Breezy06:15
capricorn_tmThat , I had with almost any linux, even Slackware :))06:15
luksan_Jucato: no, i'm not looking for the updated linux restricted modules ;-)06:15
bl3ssinghow can I install a source code guys?06:15
capricorn_tmGod I do love my penguin so much^_^06:15
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capricorn_tm... that sounded a bit weird uh' :))06:15
luke_when i do fglrxinfo it doesnt show up my card, it shows Mesa project =s06:15
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narvik86luke_ did you install xorg-driver-fglrx?06:16
luke_narvik86 yep i did06:16
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Lynourecapricorn_tm: No weirder than I would expect from a person who says that someone is on PMS... Not everyone likes every distro.06:17
narvik86and aticonfug --initial?06:17
luke_narvik86 do i hav to install xorg-driver-dev as well?06:17
narvik86config*06:17
TheMoebiusI have libqt4 installed but i seem to be using the qt3 toolchain.  running qmake -v tells me Qt 3.3.6 how can I switch to qt4 toolchain?06:17
JucatoDapper isn't perfect, that's for sure. But it's good enough for me. :-D06:17
narvik86luke_ dev is not needed06:17
capricorn_tmBelieve me, do this test, go on OSnews and search all the latest articles by Eugenia Loli Queru and then you'll see what i mean06:17
luke_narvik86 okies06:17
narvik86did you reboot?06:18
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narvik86:)06:18
luke_narvik86 theres a plan =p06:18
capricorn_tmokay, all my problems are solved, thanks dudes, off to work again06:18
capricorn_tmsee ya^_^06:18
steveirebl3ssing: What does it mean to install a source code?06:18
Lynouredudes...06:18
Lynourepfff.06:18
bl3ssingsteveire, I have a source code program (it must be compiled in order to be runed, right?) ...06:19
bl3ssingsteveire, I don't know how to do it. :(06:19
narvik86yes06:19
steveireIs it in c code?06:19
steveireif it is then yes.06:19
narvik86bl3ssing, unpack archive if it is tar.gz or similiar06:20
bl3ssingnarvik86, I did it. And ... than?06:20
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steveirewhat extension do the files have?06:21
narvik86bl3ssing, go to this directory in console06:21
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Raven301When I click the admin button in file sharing in systemsettings ... I still can't do anything, there is still nothing to select. What can I do to fix this??06:21
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narvik86luke_ and?06:22
rr72How do i stop flicker on my monitor?06:22
rr72bugs the crap out of me06:23
luke_narvik86 hmm the flgrxinfo still doesnt show my card, just Mesa project06:23
narvik86bl3ssing try to type ./configure06:23
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rr72i see horizontal flickers on my screen06:23
larson9999Raven301: i don't know if this is your problem but for me depending on which menu and when i click the admin button it either hangs or takes FOREVER to come back so i can do things.  for instance in the network section if i don't wait for it to finish detecting my configuration before i click admin mode it just hangs.06:23
narvik86luke_ maybe you picked up bad restricted packets?06:24
w00tsome one know cryptcat06:24
w00t?06:24
narvik86luke_ for sure try this in console: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)06:25
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luke_narvik86 mabye, theres a work around online ill try that first =)06:25
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narvik86luke_ ok06:26
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soulrideryay! i gto ET working!!!06:26
soulriderbut wiht no sound :P06:26
narvik86my warsow game is also without sound :/06:27
Raven301larson9999: thanks06:27
Raven301I'll try that06:27
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Jucatoany ideas if the HAL/unmounted media is a bug?06:28
larson9999Raven301: what are you trying to administer?06:28
luke_narvik86 gonna reboot n see if that fixed it06:28
Raven301file sharing in systemsettings06:28
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larson9999Raven301: oh, i don't do that so i don't know if that gives me problems or not06:29
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Raven301larson9999: thanks anyways06:29
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rr72ok who saved my siglann 11 error trouble with taht export command?06:29
larson9999Raven301: sure, let me know if you learn anything good06:29
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Raven301larson9999: ok ... i will06:30
rr72the gcc version thing06:30
shadedpastcan someone help me and tell me how to upgrade from breezy to dapper?06:30
Admiral_Chicagoshadedpast, check this06:30
Admiral_Chicago!upgrade06:30
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.06:30
rr72Admiral_Chicago~ at least u can type instead of speaking ;)06:31
Admiral_Chicagorr72, for real06:31
Admiral_Chicagoon the chi ubuntu team page06:31
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shadedpastThere is no update-manager06:32
Admiral_Chicagothere is a blog i made specifically about how much I'll be on IRC06:32
Admiral_Chicagoshadedpast, did you use the quotes?06:32
shadedpastno06:32
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Admiral_Chicagoneed them06:32
rr72i need help again06:32
rr72i forgot how to export GCC version06:32
Admiral_Chicago!gcc06:32
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)06:32
rr72someone told me a week ago, it helped me06:32
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shadedpaststill won't06:33
bl3ssingps aux|grep adept06:33
bl3ssing1000      5159  0.0  0.1   2876   800 pts/5    S+   12:32   0:00 grep adept06:33
rr72ill search my .bash06:33
bl3ssinghow can I destroy this adept?06:33
rr72killall -906:33
bl3ssingalready done it rr72 .. not working.06:33
bl3ssing:(06:33
Admiral_Chicagodid you use spaces and dashes correctly?06:34
rr72it should be gone06:34
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shadedpastis this for kubuntu???06:34
Admiral_Chicagothat's how I updated to dapper and I had no problems06:34
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bl3ssingshadedpast, yes.06:34
Admiral_Chicagoyes06:34
narvik86luke_ ?06:34
rr72bl3ssing~ u will always see it when u pipe it06:34
rr72ps aux | grep will always show that06:34
bl3ssingsudo killall -9 adept06:34
bl3ssingadept: no process killed06:34
BluesKajok folks who burns video in k3b ?06:34
rr72bl3ssing~ its not running06:34
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rr72its a trick06:35
luke_narvik86 didnt work, im messing about with softlinks to see if thatll get it to work06:35
shadedpastis there a way with apt-get06:35
bl3ssingrr72, but I try to start adept, and I can't have it. :(06:35
narvik86luke_ try to do all steps in console06:35
rr72kdesu adpet does what?06:35
Admiral_Chicagoshadedpast, you could edit your sources.list06:35
rr72i don't ue adpet sorry06:35
rr72im all apt-get06:35
shadedpastto what06:35
luke_narvik86 okies06:35
shadedpasteverything is already unquoted06:36
bl3ssingrr72, which means? what's the difference between apt-get and adept?06:36
BluesKajrr72, acmd line purist eh ? :)06:36
rr72ones gui ones not06:36
Admiral_Chicagogo to run command in the K menu and type kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list06:36
rr72BluesKaj~ no i like kate06:36
rr72but i ssh so everything is cmd line06:36
shadedpasti kno but what should i add06:36
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soulriderCLI is a lot faster than if you use hte visual app06:36
rr72don't add edit06:36
Admiral_Chicagofind and replace everything "breezy" with dapper06:36
narvik86bl3ssing tried ./configure?06:36
rr72soulrider~ CLI taht screws me up06:37
shadedpasto ok06:37
rr72how do i search a file for somin? cat FILE | grep STRING?06:37
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bl3ssingnarvik86, /Desktop/rosegarden-1.2.4/rosegarden-1.2.4$ ./configure06:37
bl3ssingbash: ./configure: No such file or directory06:37
bl3ssing:(06:37
Admiral_Chicagodo a dir06:38
narvik86wait i will try rosegarden06:38
Admiral_Chicagoand read the INSTALL file06:38
bl3ssingrr72, apt-cache policy "application"06:38
bl3ssing:)06:38
rr72huh?06:38
bl3ssingapt-cache policy firefox (by example)06:38
bl3ssing:)06:38
bl3ssingrr72, I'm talking to you. :d In case you don't know.06:38
bl3ssinghehehehehe06:38
rr72that will find the export cmd im looking for?06:38
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rr72cat FILE | grep STRING works fine06:39
rr72im looking in a file06:39
larson9999rr72: to search a file you can do 'grep something file06:39
bl3ssinglol06:39
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rr72larson9999~ are u can cat it ;)06:39
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bl3ssingtry grep ... in the file06:39
bl3ssinglike: grep debby sources.list06:39
rr72im searching my .bash_history but i think its too recent06:39
luke_narvik86 did that in the console still doesnt work =(06:39
rr72who logs this chan?06:40
rr72i would like to /msg06:40
larson9999rr72: yeah but that's not the 'standard' way.06:40
rr72larson9999~ nothing is standard06:40
narvik86luke_ all steps one by one06:40
luke_narvik86 yep06:40
rr72!logs06:40
ubotuChannel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs06:40
Admiral_Chicagorr72, ubuntulog?06:40
narvik86luke_ with reboot?06:41
soulriderhow can i report a bug? because when you install Eclipse-jdt fomt he repos it never gets isntalled correctly06:41
Admiral_Chicago!bugs06:41
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com06:41
luke_narvik86 ok ill reboot again06:41
bl3ssing!logs06:41
ubotuChannel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs06:41
narvik86luke_ console things + reboot06:41
rr72i don't know the date tho06:41
bl3ssingnarvik86, got it?06:42
narvik86bl3ssing you will need scons06:43
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Admiral_Chicagonarvik86, even better, scones06:43
timthelionall of a sudden alt navigation's in Konqueror don't work.  ie alt+<- to go back...  why?  how can I solve this?  I looked in Settings-configure shortcuts and the hotkeys are set correctly...06:43
narvik86??06:44
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_Shade_hey why i can't gain access to all mounted drives ?06:45
luke_narvik86 it worked!06:45
Raven301larson9999: For my problem ... I was missing some samba files06:45
Jucato_Shade_: I've been asking that for the past half-hour...06:46
bl3ssingnarvik86, how can i get it?06:46
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narvik86bl3ssing in repository but wait06:46
narvik86bl3ssing other problems :/06:46
narvik86luke_ cool :)06:47
rr72it might have been in #ubuntu, ill check those logs in a sec06:47
bl3ssingcant get in adept. :( not even in aptitude...06:47
luke_narvik86 thanks man wouldve taken me ages to do that on me own =)06:47
_Shade_Jucato: have you got any solution then ?06:48
narvik86luke_ console power :) no problem06:48
luke_narvik86 haha =)06:48
Jucato_Shade_: unfortunately, no06:48
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gekko`!fstab06:48
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions06:48
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narvik86where qt is installed?06:49
rr72why is the log i need 0 bytes?06:49
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gekko`Jucato, _Shade_, you should read that06:49
bl3ssingnarvik86, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1978506:49
linuxgoobernarvik : /usr/share/qt306:50
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narvik86ty06:50
Jucatogekko`: which one?06:50
bl3ssingcan anybody check this link? got a problem with opening the aptitude. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19785 (and I assume that it is because something about ADEPt's not allowing me to install/uninstall things)06:50
Kr4t05!audio06:50
ubotuI know nothing about audio - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu06:50
Kr4t05!sound06:51
ubotuIf sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems06:51
gekko`!fstab > Jucato06:51
narvik86bl3ssing with sudo?06:51
rr72why are the logs i need not here?06:51
rr72i need for the 24th of july06:51
Jucatogekko`: my fstab is working. But either HAL or media:/ isn't after upgrading to KDE 3.5.406:51
narvik86bl3ssing what you want to install with it?06:52
bl3ssingnarvik86, thank you. How can I find a file to be installed?06:52
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BluesKaj!k3b06:52
ubotuk3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/K3BHowto06:52
bl3ssingnarvik86, I want to install scons ... :)06:53
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narvik86to install rosegarden you need scons06:54
nixternal!classroom06:54
ubotuThe Ubuntu Classroom is a project which aims to tutor users about Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu through biweekly sessions in #ubuntu-classroom - For more information visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom06:54
narvik86bl3ssing sudo apt-get install scons06:54
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nixternalIn approximately 1 hour, #ubuntu-classroom will be providing a basic workshop for the topic, "Introduction to IRC". I will be displaying the KDE/Konversation portion of this class, and there will be an IRSSI portion as well. Everyone is more then welcome to join in on the class. Thank you!06:55
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bl3ssingnarvik86, DONE! now ...? :)06:55
w00ti am looking for a program like look@lan for linux06:55
soulridercool, will you publisha  log of the classroom ?06:55
nixternalyes06:55
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soulridercool06:56
internet_hello I have problem ... when I was installing libdc0c2: ...06:56
internet_ /var/cache/apt/archives/libdc0c2_0.3.7-3_i386.d06:56
internet_E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error c06:56
aliasfredw00t: describe what look@lan is doing06:56
Jucatonixternal: would you happen to know if Kopete has a logging feature like Konversation?06:56
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nixternalit used to..let me look really quick06:56
bl3ssinghow can I exit from a directory (in windows's cd..)06:56
internet_E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)06:56
narvik86bl3ssing now i hsve problem :/ you can try scons configure06:56
narvik86cd ..06:56
narvik86with space06:56
kane___nixternal: is there some kind of whiteboard you will be using ?06:56
Jucatothanks nixternal!06:56
nixternalkane___: it will be IRC ;)  but there will be images to follow along with this time around06:57
nixternali am planning on doing screencasts for future classes06:57
kane___nixternal: images like how ? screenshots on a website ?06:57
aliasfredinternet_ seems weird as it is very unexplicit.do you have enought disk space ?06:58
Kr4t05I'm having issues with my audio. It stopped working last night while I was trying to find a program for video editing. I've made sure my system is up to date, and I'm not sure what would suddenly cause my system's sound to suddenly stop.06:58
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bl3ssingnarvik86, ~/Desktop/rosegarden-1.2.4/rosegarden-1.2.4$ scons ./configure06:58
bl3ssingscons: Reading SConscript files ...06:58
bl3ssingChecking for kde-config           :  kde-config was found as /usr/bin/kde-config06:58
bl3ssingChecking for kde version          :  3.5.206:58
bl3ssingChecking for the qt library       :  qt was not found06:58
bl3ssingPlease set QTDIR first (/usr/lib/qt3?) or try scons -h for more options06:58
w00tit show al te computer that connected on the network06:58
bl3ssingoops, sorry guys. :D ... where's my webbrowser? :D06:58
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w00tin the ip range a said06:58
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aliasfredw00t: there is fping doing that, but it is not gui06:58
w00tgui?06:58
bl3ssingnarvik86, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1978706:59
aliasfredw00t: no graphical interface06:59
w00tso ?:P06:59
aliasfredw00t: ah ok, so use fping :)06:59
narvik86bl3ssing working on it06:59
w00tok06:59
w00t:)06:59
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Kr4t05Ok, dammit.07:00
Kr4t05Sorry...07:00
Kr4t05Wrong channel.07:00
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nixternalJucato: it seems the only way to really log with kopete, is to "File > Save" the session i guess07:03
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rouge8doesn't kopete log by default?07:03
andredJucato: nixternal: you just have to enable the history plugin07:03
rouge8not sure about chats though07:03
nixternaldoh, that is right07:04
narvik86bl3ssing http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19788 now i have that07:04
damian_how do you update firefox to a more recent version07:04
nixternallol..i was just looking at it and it flat out tells you that07:04
damian_?07:04
nixternali think ubuntu/kubuntu has the most recent version doesn't it?07:04
damian_no07:04
nixternalor did another one come out the past couple of days07:04
damian_yeah07:04
JucatoKopete 0.12.107:04
damian_version 1.0.5.607:04
damian_i mean 1.5.0.607:05
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nixternaldamian_: if it is a security release, it will be out shortly..however i haven't seen anything in the security list yet07:05
larson9999firefox is one of the programs i update outside of apt-get07:05
damian_how do you update outside of apt-get07:05
larson9999damian_: i just use the download from ff.  i'm not suggesting you do that but it's what i do.  same with ooo07:06
Jucatohm... barely an hour to go... I'll just switch to konversation...07:06
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nixternalthere was a tutorial on ubuntuforums about updating it manually07:07
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bl3ssingnarvik86, cool How can I do so that gt3 be a directory for me too? :D07:08
narvik86qt?07:08
_Shade_gekko unfortunately it did not help07:08
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_Shade_gekko`: i mean i can't access my mp3 player.... more over - if i do it as root it doesn't copy all the files i want to be copied07:10
narvik86bl3ssing i used export QTDIR=/usr/share/qt3      but don't know is it correct07:10
damian_anyone here have a broadcom wireless card07:10
soulriderwhat can i use to join 2 video fileS?07:11
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narvik86kino maybe?07:11
chatboy!sources07:11
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource07:11
chatboy!easysource07:11
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic07:11
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soulrider!nfo kino07:11
ubotuI know nothing about nfo kino - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu07:11
narvik86info :)07:11
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enzo!info kino07:12
w00ton fping can i give there a ip range like 10.0.0.0-10.0.1.255 ?07:12
ubotukino: Non-linear editor for Digital Video data. In repository main, is extra. Version 0.80-1ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 1071 kB, installed size 3616 kB07:12
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damian_!cinelerra07:12
ubotucinelerra is a video editor and compositor. Install instructions can be found on http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.html#ubuntu07:12
narvik86!avidemux07:12
ubotuI know nothing about avidemux - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu07:12
soulrideri just need to join two files, nothing too fancy07:12
aliasfredw00t: yes, dont remember the exact syntax tho07:12
_Shade_how should the usb device entry look like in fstab ?07:13
_Shade_the dev is sda07:13
narvik86http://avidemux.sourceforge.net/07:13
larson9999_shade_ the sub don't show in fstab for me07:13
larson9999_shade_ the usb don't show in fstab for me07:13
bl3ssingnarvik86, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1978907:13
aliasfredw00t: btw http://www.fping.com/07:13
bl3ssingI got it with gt, but it comes not uic ... what's that? :D07:14
aliasfred fping -g 192.168.1.0 192.168.1.255 <- from http://www.fping.com/man/07:14
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cpluspluswhere could i find msn messanger for kubuntu?07:14
_Shade_larson9999: i have to do something though since my mp3 player seems to lose it's sync07:14
_Shade_cplusplus: apt-get install amsn07:14
bl3ssingcplusplus .... you07:15
bl3ssingapt-get install amsn.07:15
aliasfredcplusplus: it is not available as is. do you want the exact program or just a software able to connect msn im ?07:15
cplusplusthanks07:15
bl3ssingcplusplus, kopete is the best.07:15
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bl3ssingyou can log with many other messengers ... (yahoo, msn, aol and so on)07:15
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soulridercan FAT32 support 1.5 gb files?07:16
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narvik86bl3ssing sudo apt-cache search rosegarden  ???07:17
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fernando_hola07:18
soulriderthatw ill search for rosegarden07:18
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soulriderhola fernando_ aqui solo ingles07:18
soulrider!es07:18
JucatoI07:18
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:18
fernando_oks........07:18
soulrider;)07:18
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narvik86bl3ssing  got to go, install it from repo and there will be no problem07:19
damian_!kdm07:22
ubotuI know nothing about kdm - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu07:22
damian_!arts07:23
ubotuI know nothing about arts - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu07:23
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steveiredoes anyone know about how Adept works, or is there a more suitable channel to ask a development question about it in.07:24
Jucatosteveire: what about Adept?07:25
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steveireWhere does the tagging system come from, and is it just a wrapper around apt-get or does it use some kind of aptlib or something (which I think other package managers use)07:26
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soulrider!bugs07:26
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com07:26
JucatoIt's called debtags, and it's from Debian. Frankly, I think only the geeks understand it really.07:27
dnocHi all07:27
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soulriderhi07:27
narvik86hi07:27
dnocI have intel 910gl chipset07:27
steveireAnd I need to find those (specific) geeks07:28
dnocI want to run 3d acc to run 3d desktop07:28
dnoci can't find a howto07:28
dnocany help?!07:28
Dr_Willis#1 what video card07:28
Dr_Willisintel? ewww07:28
bl3ssinglol narvik86... after this strugling time ... :d07:28
Dr_Willis#2 - google for that card and linux. :P07:28
dnocya I know07:28
Dr_Willissee if 3d is even supported.07:28
dnocdid that07:29
dnocno good info07:29
Dr_Willis3d desktop is a bit of useless eye candy i find..07:29
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Jucatosteveire: I'm not too fascinated with it. seems like maintainers and devs are the main beneficiaries of hte debtag system07:29
steveireJucato: Can I get debtags data from outside of adept? Ie on the command line?07:29
Dr_Willisit dont even do its job very well. :P07:29
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dnoci am exploring linux, this is not a good start07:29
steveireI like it, but I install everything with aptitude07:29
steveireCan aptitude access the debtags system?07:29
narvik86bl3ssing ??07:30
Dr_Willisdnoc,  worrying abouyt eye candy is not the way to explore linux. :P07:30
bl3ssingnarvik86, YES?07:30
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narvik86bl3ssing tried from repository?07:30
dnocwhat got my eye to start exploring is the said eye candy07:30
bl3ssingyes. And I've done it.07:30
Jucatosteveire: debtags are supposed to be embedded on the .deb packages themselves, AFAIK.07:30
bl3ssingnow I'm trying to start  the program.07:30
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bl3ssingthank you soooooooooooo very much narvik86  for your time.07:30
bl3ssingI really appreciate.07:30
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Doodluvanybody have an a8n-sli motherboard? possibly with some tips to get audio working07:31
steveirednoc: I thought that package was only available for gnome.07:31
Jucatosteveire: like when you do apt-cache show, it will show the debtags of that package07:31
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bl3ssingif I can help you with something, just knock of the door. OK? :)07:31
bl3ssingnarvik86, and the door'll open by itself ... :D07:31
dnoci read and saw a clip it works in kde07:31
narvik86bl3ssing it is working? :)07:31
dhqhow to execute a bin file07:31
Dr_Williseye candy is for the weak.. :P ITs the Tasteless Fluff on the Cake of Yumminess that is Linux.07:31
XVampireXdhq: chmod +x file.bin07:31
bl3ssingwhere could I find it07:31
XVampireXdhq: ./file.bin07:32
JucatoDr_Willis: ouch.. that hurts..07:32
bl3ssingcause I don't find it? by the way, narvik86 where could I find every new installed program?07:32
dnocDr_ lets leave the wisdoms a side can you help?!!07:32
dhqi downloaded google earth.bin07:32
Dr_WillisHeh heh07:32
XVampireXYou can double click on it07:32
narvik86bl3ssing wait a second07:32
XVampireXor07:32
XVampireXdhq: try: sudo sh file.bin07:32
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XVampireXI think double click should work, I forgot how I installed it07:33
Dr_WillisPlace to start dnoc  i think would be the ubuntu wiki/forums - they got a laptop section. (this was a laptop?)07:33
dnocno its a normal pc07:33
dnochp one07:33
steveireJucato: It looks to me like it shows meta-data for the package. In adept, you drag a word-processors tag into a box, and all the packages using that tag are displayed07:34
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Jucatosteveire: oh yeah, forgot that. So far, Adept is the only one I know that uses debtags like that07:34
steveireand do you know if I can access data like that from the command line?07:35
narvik86bl3ssing http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19791 :)07:35
JucatoAFAIK, no...07:35
dnocthank you all07:35
dnocby07:35
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narvik86bl3ssing for example rosegarden is in /usr/bin07:37
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w00tok fping work to see if a ip is online..07:41
w00tit don't show the computername an os07:41
kamikaze_jhola07:41
w00tand*07:41
kamikaze_jhello07:41
kamikaze_jone question07:41
kamikaze_jamarok07:42
kamikaze_jsomeone?07:42
abattoirkamikaze_j: ask your question07:42
bl3ssingkamikaze_j, what's up?07:42
BluesKajDamn! I just encoded an avi file to dvd with Avidemux , but k3b wants to treat it as a vcd file and won't burn to a dvd07:42
kamikaze_jmp3 support07:42
steveireJucato: It seems accessible acually. debtags grep interface::web will show web packages.  debtags grep interface::web grep made-of::php will show web packages and packages made in php. You can pipe the grep command to make it return web packages made in php etc. Looks like I've got a new project on my todo list07:42
abattoirkamikaze_j: you need to install libxine-extracodecs07:43
TheGateKeeperkamikaze_j: xine engine and install libxine-extracodecs07:43
abattoir!libxine-extracodecs07:43
ubotuI know nothing about libxine-extracodecs - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu07:43
kamikaze_jok, thanks abattoir07:43
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abattoir!info libxine-extracodecs07:43
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB07:43
abattoirkamikaze_j: make sure you have multiverse enabled07:43
Jucatosteveire: oooh. that's interesting. If only Adept actually had instructions on what debtags are and how to use them properly in Adept, it might actually be useful07:44
narvik86bl3ssing just tell if it works :)07:44
BluesKajanyone have experience burning video files to dvd with k3b ?07:44
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kamikaze_jmy sound is bad07:44
kamikaze_jpuf...07:44
kamikaze_jhaber como esplico yo esto en ingles jajaj07:44
bl3ssinggive me a sec. ... very slow loading .. :(07:44
narvik86bl3ssing ok ::)07:45
w00thi i am looking for a network scanning progamm\07:45
w00ti want to see al te computers that connectet to the network?07:45
steveireSure. I want a smart package manager (that's aptitude), and I want a GUI with Debtags support (that's adept) I think I'll write something to put them together when I get the chance.07:45
aliasfredw00t: fping doesnt do it for you ?07:46
Jucatosteveire: I'll be your number one fan once you've done that!!07:46
TheGateKeepersteveire: there is supposed to be a new smart package manager coming in edgy I think07:46
Dr_WillisClick N Run? :P07:46
steveireTheGateKeeper: really? Info?07:46
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w00tno not realy i want to see the computername07:47
w00t..07:47
JucatoTheGateKeeper: only problem is, it's completely python.07:47
steveirewhy@s that a problem?07:47
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Jucatoa full python based program for a low level function? how slow will that be?07:47
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steveireWe'll have to see I guess07:48
Jucatobesides, the devs of Smart themselves admit that Smar is slow07:48
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Jucato... for now07:48
w00taah i see it is possible on fping07:48
w00t:P07:48
TheGateKeepersteveire: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartPackageManager07:48
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kamikaze_jabattoir-> thanks, now is nice07:49
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kamikaze_j:)07:49
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TheGateKeeperJucato: someone needs to convert it to c++ :-)07:49
aliasfredwhy i am allways worried when i see 'smart' in a computer name :)07:49
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G33Khi07:49
Dr_WillisMoo07:49
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KiDD420Moo indeed07:49
TheGateKeepersynaptic with a role-back feature would make me happy!!07:49
Dr_WillisMuu!07:49
Dr_Willis:)07:50
JucatoTheGateKeeper: if I knew how to program in C++, I would have made one myself :-D07:50
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nixternalIn 10 minutes, #ubuntu-classroom will be offering a basic class in the area of IRC. Konversation will be the topic for Kubuntu users, so if you are interested, please join the channel and sit back. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom for more information! Thank You!07:50
steveireinteresting07:51
TheGateKeeperJucato: I am a c++ programmer but don't really have the time least ways not at the moment07:51
KiDD420what do I use to compile this source code?07:51
Dr_Willisapt-get install build-essential     for a start07:51
Dr_Willisthe other packages needed - depends on the code.07:51
kamikaze_jubuntu classroom ummm :)07:51
Jucatohttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190985 <--- I made this thread a while back, trying to compare the strengths and weaknesses of some of the package manager front ends07:51
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steveirebleh.07:52
KiDD420where do I get that07:52
Dr_Willisapt-get install build-essential07:52
steveirehehe. I read that before actually I think07:52
Jucato:-D07:52
Dr_Willisis the command.. if ya dont know how to use the package manager system of Kubuntu/Ubuntu - well ya may want do a little reading07:52
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Dr_Willis!apt-get07:52
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)07:52
KiDD420thanks07:53
kamikaze_jubuntu classrom in spanish?07:53
kamikaze_j:s07:53
Jucatokamikaze_j: nope. in English07:54
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kamikaze_j:(07:54
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Jucatogoing to the classroom... bye!!07:55
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BluesKajI unintstalled enlightenment and now ADEPT is missing from the K-menu...uhoh , what happened ?07:55
TheGateKeeperJucato: interesting post, however for people that manage to screw their system up (and I have seen a few in here) the number one prioity IMHO is a role-back feature, but so far I have seen no indication of this happening07:56
w00tlol i have installed crack_md5 but can't find tha readme07:56
bl3ssingnarvik86, seems that this program's not running. So stuburn .. Now I really have to go. My wife called me and ... need to gooooo! It's an order of her (kidding!).07:56
bl3ssing:)07:56
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bl3ssingGod bless all of you guys. Byeeeeeeeeee....!07:56
TheGateKeeperdamn he has gone!!07:56
bl3ssingthanks narvik86 for everything.07:56
bl3ssingwhen I'll come back, hope you'll still be here. :)07:56
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bl3ssingbye everyone.07:56
narvik86bl3ssing sad that i could help you07:56
narvik86bl3ssing bye07:56
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bl3ssingyou helped me a lot narvik86 ... Thank you.07:57
narvik86bl3ssing sad that i couldn't help you :)07:57
shadedpasthow the hell am i supposed to use update manager to update kubuntu if it isn't on kubuntu07:57
narvik86bl3ssing try rosegarde4 later07:57
shadedpasthe left07:57
shadedpasthow do i update kubuntu from breezy to dapper?07:58
steveireTheGateKeeper: Does any pman have a rollback feature?07:58
shadedpasthelp please07:59
narvik86i have installed in from cd, format / and install :)07:59
TheGateKeepersteveire: not that I am aware of07:59
shadedpastanyone know07:59
shadedpast???07:59
steveireshadedpast: you change source.list to dapper wherever it is breezy, then sudo aptitude dist-upgrade07:59
shadedpastok thnx07:59
KiDD420when I try the apt-get install build-essential it says "Could not open lock file /var/lib/kpkg/lock -open (13 denied)" and "Unable to lock the administaration directory (/var/lib/dpkg), are you root?08:00
steveireI guess aptitude is along those lines with the redundant dependancy removal, but doesn't specifically rollback08:00
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KiDD420I tried to do it su but it says the password is wrong08:00
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steveireKiDD420: Put a sudo in front of that08:00
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KiDD420duh08:01
KiDD420thanks08:01
steveireyou haven't set a root password.08:01
damian_KiDD420 change the root password by doing sudo passwd08:01
steveirenp08:01
damian_now you can do su08:01
Dr_Willis'ick' :P blasphmy! Heh heh08:01
KiDD420thank you08:01
Dr_WillisI do that also. :P lol08:01
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Dr_Willisyou dont need to set a root password.. bad habbit.. :)08:01
shadedpastyeah that worx thnx08:01
alfonshi all08:01
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KiDD420i dint know the differance between su and sudo thought it was the same thing08:02
Dr_Willissudo is handy08:02
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Dr_Willisyou can allow specific users to do specific root-ish tasks with it.08:02
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xsayehello08:03
BluesKaj!sources list08:03
ubotuI know nothing about sources list - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu08:03
BluesKaj!sources08:04
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource08:04
steveire!sudo08:04
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.08:04
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mioemihello08:04
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steveirehi08:04
kamikaze_jhi08:05
mioemiengine drawing08:05
xsayehas or does anyone here run kubuntu in parallels?08:05
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steveirewhat are parallels?08:07
mioemihas anybody  used autocad or like program on ubuntu?08:07
KiDD420not on ubuntu08:07
xsayewww.parallels.com08:07
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xsayeim running kubuntu in it now, wondering if there is anything i should be aware of08:08
xsayeit's actually benchmarking quicker than my mac natively!08:08
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Dr_Willismioemi,  qcad is nice - 2d only however.08:09
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draik_hello all08:09
mioemihas anybody  used autocad or like program on ubuntu?08:09
Dr_Willistheres a few comerial cad programs out I htink (seen ads for them)08:10
Dr_Willisbut it depends on your needs.08:10
mioemiok08:10
willy_Hi there... is there an alternative to using flash_7 in firefox for viewing video.google.com? Flash seems too choppy.08:11
mioemiI will appreciate if U may about any08:11
willy_mioemi: I was wondering that same thing. I'm a coordinator08:11
mioemiok08:11
Dr_WillisIve only used qcad for my 2d needs.08:11
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mioemiI actually started running ubuntu08:12
willy_would wine apply to autocad? or is that only for directx type stuff?08:12
mioemiI dont think so08:12
Dr_Willisnot sure how well wine handles autocad08:12
Dr_Willischeck the wine web sites/lists/forums I guess08:12
steveirexsaye: So you're running MAC OSX with Kubuntu running at the same time?08:12
mioemibut I just tried blend 3D08:12
Dr_Willisblender3d?08:13
steveirethere is acad.08:13
mioemiok08:13
Dr_Willis!info qcad08:13
ubotuqcad: A professional CAD System. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.0.4.0-1-2.1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2872 kB, installed size 12564 kB08:13
Dr_Willis!info acad08:13
ubotuPackage acad does not exist in dapper08:13
KiDD420whats the name of the package with SDL08:13
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willy_mioemi: hey, my Aim name is BillyRego. If you get Autocad working, will you hit me up and let me know how?08:13
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mioemiok08:14
willy_thank you08:14
KiDD420!info SDL08:14
ubotuPackage SDL does not exist in dapper08:14
KiDD420sya wha08:14
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KiDD420!SDL08:15
ubotuI know nothing about SDL - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu08:15
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Dr_Willistheres oodles of sdl- related packages08:15
Dr_Willisapt-cache search sdl08:15
Dr_Willis:P08:15
KiDD420your so helpful08:15
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willy_so is there anyway to improve flash preformance, or an alternative to? or should i just give up08:16
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Dr_Willislibsdl1.2-dev  is one of the 100 packages i see for sdl.08:16
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Dr_Willisit depends on what part of sdl you are interested in08:16
steveirewilly_: have you tried automatix?08:16
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Dr_Willis!automatix08:17
ubotuAutomatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.08:17
Dr_WillisUse at your own risk - needs to be in BOLD/BRIGHT red. :)08:17
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steveireIndeed. I don't like it.08:17
gplfighterans easyubuntu?08:17
steveireThere's a lot of voodoo and 'smartness'08:17
gplfighterand easyubuntu?08:17
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Dr_WillisI dont advise either. :P08:18
kakkottino1hi08:18
steveireAgain, I see then sense in doing these things yourself. There's good help sections in the wiki08:18
steveirehi kakkottino108:18
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FanzY00we08:18
KiDD420Im just gonna get the debian-all package does it matter which one I get?08:18
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KiDD420botsnack08:19
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rikiohim bored and trying to learn things about linux dunno what i should do next08:21
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mioemirikio, what variant of linux are U intending to start with?08:22
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rikiohim in kubuntu right now08:22
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mioemithere are couple of manual tyhat U can start with08:23
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abattoirrikioh: maybe you could join the classroom08:23
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abattoir!classroom08:23
shadesmachinehi does anyone know how to load a script by default when kde boots?08:23
ubotuThe Ubuntu Classroom is a project which aims to tutor users about Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu through biweekly sessions in #ubuntu-classroom - For more information visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom08:23
KiDD420do I need a -dev package of SDL for compiling?08:23
steveireshadesmachine: put the script in ~/.kde/Autostart08:24
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rouge8what would I need to install to build qt programs?08:24
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slow-motionhallo08:26
shadesmachineok08:26
gplfighterhallo08:26
shadesmachinegreat08:26
shadesmachinetks steveire08:26
steveirenp shade08:26
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KiDD420thank you doctor willis your help was helpful08:29
KiDD420lol08:29
robert__test08:29
robert__ah mega cool :)08:29
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steveirerobert__ That's z3r0c00l08:30
crazy_penguingood night all! sleep well!08:30
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GBKanyone know how to play .wmv video's?08:30
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steveirewhy are there so many roberts08:30
steveire!restricted08:31
robert__im in kubuntu on my mac..08:31
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:31
robert__at the same time :)08:31
robert__wee08:31
robert__cool.08:31
robert__kubuntu is pretty nice08:31
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KiDD420uhh08:33
kamikaze_jbye08:33
KiDD420how do I run a program I just compiled?08:34
visik7./program ?08:34
BluesKajavi encoded to dvd won't burn to a dvd ...K3b keeps asking for a cd , how do I correct this ?08:34
KiDD420whats ./program?08:34
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steveireit executes a program in the current working directory08:35
BluesKajKiDD420, you may have restart X08:35
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KiDD420ok08:35
steveireif you don't use ./program it looks in the path08:36
KiDD420whats the fast way to restart x?08:36
steveirectrl+alt+backspace08:36
BluesKajend curent session08:36
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BluesKajahh. learn something new everyday08:36
DragonDraikHey draik_08:37
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BluesKajsteveire, any experience with burning video to dvd in k3b ?08:37
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BluesKajor anyone ?08:37
steveirenope. Never tried it. Is it not obvious from the wiki?08:38
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levi_its not working] 08:38
BluesKajI'm in thr k3b chat but no one's responding08:38
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KiDD420anyone else play openttd?08:38
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BluesKajavi encoded to dvd won't burn to a dvd ...K3b keeps asking for a cd ... !08:39
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rikiohcan i get synaptic for kubuntu08:40
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andriijashttp://pastie.caboo.se/7346  can someone explain this to me?08:40
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steveirewhy do I have a random message telling me that I just joined this channel?08:41
abattoirrikioh: yes... 'apt-get install synaptic' should get it...08:41
steveireyes rikioh. It works08:41
GBKrikioh:yes you can08:41
rikiohthanks guys08:41
rikioh:)08:41
stn# j brasil08:41
GBKah. I was jumped!08:41
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mmorrisHow complicated is it to run Photoshop CS2 on my Kubuntu?08:42
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GBKany wine boffins here?08:42
BluesKajabattoir, any experience burning avi re-encoded to dvd in k3b ?08:42
rikiohi was gonna try to wine it last nite mmorris but i got tired08:42
rikiohso i dont know08:42
w00tdoes anny one know what means when i get a error dns not found?08:42
mmorrisFrom what I read, that is a rather difficult task rikioh08:43
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abattoirBluesKaj: nope... but arent there other tools for it...??08:43
rikiohi bet it is hard cuz it probably errors out alot with dll errors mmorris08:43
rikiohwhen you try to run it08:43
mmorrisHave you heard of VMware Player?08:43
rikiohi  hear most installs are a snap08:43
rikiohnope08:44
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lackdianthi, does anybody have xgl-kubuntu package but 0.10 version?08:44
mmorrisThat is supposed to work...  It is some virtual machine program runner or something... Got me?08:44
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BluesKajyeah , I thought I could get Avdemux to encode it to dvd and k3b would then accept i as a proper dvd file , but i guess the avi signatures aren't stripped out during the re- encoding08:45
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mmorrisCan anybody take the time to help me get XGL with kubuntu?  I tried it last night, but to no avail.  Now when I try to run my machine in XGL, I can't see a thing... it's messed up somewhere... Do you think it may be a video card issue?08:45
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Daillew /quote nickserv identify mirc4d@!ll3w08:47
andriijashttp://pastie.caboo.se/7346  can someone explain this to me?08:47
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steveireDaillew: Oopseee08:48
Daillewdont matter08:48
steveirewhy?08:48
Daillewhe dont know,08:49
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Daillewits me dad, im just messing about08:49
steveireYou can change it anyway, and with a pw like that you probably don't use it for all your logins08:49
Daillewhell sort it when hes back on08:49
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GBKe08:53
GBKis the server down?08:54
GBK08:54
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rikiohwhy does synaptic say i cant do anything cuz im not root08:56
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rr72why is ubotu missing some logs?08:57
steveirewhat server are we talking about GBK?08:57
KiDD420it got drunk08:57
steveirewhat do you mean, rr72?08:57
rr72the logs i need he his missing08:57
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heinkel_111does anyone here know what AGP vertex ram is?08:57
rr72for 7/24/0608:57
rr720bytes08:57
rr72!logs08:57
ubotuChannel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs08:57
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dr_willis_heinkel_111,  that 'toms hardware site - had a guide to video cards and what all these terms mean' set of articals just last week08:58
heinkel_111is AGP vertex ram  a physical memory thing installed somewhere or is it a an allovation08:58
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heinkel_111allocation08:58
steveireyou don't have your own logs?08:58
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heinkel_111thanks Dr_Willis08:58
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andriijasjeez should be illegal to put irc logs on internet08:58
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andriijashttp://pastie.caboo.se/7346  can someone explain this to me?09:00
rr72oops wrong button09:00
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rr72ok so why are the logs missing for days i need?09:01
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archangel_Question09:02
uniqandriijas: i understand that kubuntu-desktop will be removed, xmms i don't understand.09:02
andriijasuniq: ?09:02
IreclanWell, I finally got Kubuntu to work.09:03
andriijasuniq: what i did try to do was to uninstall xmms?09:03
IreclanYay for me.09:03
rr72why don't the logs work?09:03
uniqandriijas: sorry, i mean kopete i don't understand.09:03
archangel_My brostoped an updated that was98% done.. while the kernal was being updated.09:03
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archangel_oops I mean my bro stopped)09:03
andriijasuniq: either kopete or kubuntu-desktop shouldnt be removed when i try to remove xmms09:03
andriijaselse xmms would be shipped with kubuntu09:04
rr72 /mourn Chanserv09:04
archangel_now laptop doesnt boot09:04
lascarhey, i upgraded to Dapper, and for some reason i lost the x desktop.  Help, anyone?09:04
archangel_is he screewed?09:04
archangel_dagg, I cant type09:04
lascarnamely, how do I restore the x desktop and kde?09:04
uniqandriijas: correct.09:05
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archangel_lascar: type kde at the prompt09:05
dr_willis_huh.09:05
uniqandriijas: The following packages will be REMOVED: xmms*09:05
lascararchangel_: and then what happens?09:05
uniqandriijas: that's when i try to remove xmms.09:05
archangel_lascar: that should take you right into kde09:06
lascarand how will i know if the restoration is permanent?09:06
archangel_lascar: that would be a permanent fix, but Dr Willis should know that command09:07
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dr_willis_what command? :P09:07
archangel_lascar: to make it permanent, I mean09:07
andriijasuniq: why does mine try to remove kopete and kubuntu-desktop aswell? :o09:07
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rr72who logs this channel? the but was not here the 24th of Jully09:07
rr72*july09:08
archangel_lascar needs KDE to start when the pc boots instead of typing kde09:08
rr72i NEED logs for that day09:08
lascardr_willis_: what say you?09:08
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dr_willis_lascar,  whats the problem again? I missed it.09:08
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rr72someone told me a cmd and its not in my .basg_history09:08
lascardr_willis_: i updated to dapper and lost kde and the x-desktop09:08
uniqandriijas: don't know. try to run this command in konsole: 'dpkg --get-selections|grep -v install'09:08
lascarall i'm getting is konsole09:08
dr_willis_what video card?09:08
uniqandriijas: does it give any output?09:09
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andriijasuniq: with sudo?09:09
lascardr_willis_: you asking me?09:09
rr72lascar~ i updated to dapper and have fligkers on my screen09:09
uniqandriijas: not needed.09:09
andriijasuniq: no output09:09
dr_willis_you proberly need to reinstall your video card drivers lascar09:09
rr72and Xserver is messed up09:09
uniqandriijas: ok. then none of your packages are flagged to be removed.09:09
dr_willis_lascar,  use 'startx' and see what sor tof error messages ya get09:10
rr72dr_willis_ i want to but i can't find a cmd i need in the 24th of july logs09:10
rr72it was an export cmd09:10
rr72*statement09:10
rr72about gcc09:10
rr72forget who told me09:10
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lascarwhat's the url for the unofficial kubuntu guide?09:10
rr72i want logs but the bot doesnt have then for that day and the next :`(09:10
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rodrigo_Excuse me colud you give the channel of kubuntu-es?09:11
andriijasuniq: hmm ok wierd. what kde version are you running?09:11
dr_willis_#es09:11
dr_willis_!es09:11
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.09:11
rodrigo_thank you09:11
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larsiviHave anyone tried digikam with a mounted camera after installing KDE 3.5.4 ?09:17
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archangel_its not as easy09:18
Ace2007Hey did i by any change miss that ubuntu talk thing? on irc09:18
larsiviarchangel_: was that an answer to me?09:18
archangel_yeah09:18
larsividoes that mean that there are more than me experiencing problems? or that you don't have a camera?09:19
rr72who logs this channel?09:19
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archangel_larsivi: it seems the version just before this new one was easier09:19
rr72i need to /msg09:19
rr72and the bot didnt log this day09:19
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rr72so don't point me to !logs09:19
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jpozlovskyhi all!09:19
uniqandriijas: 3.5.4 on edgy.09:19
rr72been there, done that09:19
andriijasuniq: okay09:19
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jpozlovskyOne question: is here any way how can I manually turn off/on (probably called suspend mode) USB devices? Against "lsusb" it is identified as "Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0db0:6970 Micro Star International" and it is Bluetooth module.09:20
jpozlovskythanks09:20
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archangel_larsivi: I transfer allot of pic at times and right now I am still trying to get the pics off09:20
rr72where do i find logs for this channel? !logs is not working right09:20
larsiviarchangel_: digikam was setup to work prior to the upgrade, now it don't (says that it is not able to get the file list from /media/sdb1) ... I have no problems getting the files listed in konqui09:20
archangel_larsivi: I also noticed that the program to handle the pics is different too09:21
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larsiviarchangel_: I see no differences there ..09:22
rr72where can i find chat logs? !logs is broken09:22
larsivirr72: if noone is answering, it is because noone here currently know the answer09:23
archangel_larsivi: what program are you using09:23
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larsiviarchangel_: the default I think? digikam image editing (I think, it is translated :)09:24
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Nancy1hi everyone,,09:24
lascari'll be back09:25
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Ace2007How do you rename stuff in konsole? a folder09:25
RiddellAce2007: mv09:25
andriijasmv09:25
larsiviAce2007: mv oldname newname09:25
Nancy1can anyone help me ,, I have a problem with X,, when I boot,, it goes up til llogin then goes blank and send me to command line login,,09:25
archangel_I have Gwenview, kooka, xane, all of which I have never used09:25
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rr72mkdir09:25
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rr72touch09:26
Ace2007larsivi and Riddell: Thanks :)09:26
Nancy1when I log in recovery mode ,, everything is fine.. can anyone explain to me why, ,no change has been made to machine what so ever09:26
mmorrisis there any way I can create a konsole startup file?09:26
archangel_larsivi: sorry, did you catch my last statement?09:26
larsiviarchangel_: about the image programs you have?09:27
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archangel_yeah09:27
mmorrisIs there a helper in this room>?09:27
chatboy!ntfs09:27
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ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse09:27
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chatboydomo arigato09:27
larsiviarchangel_: that part seems to be working satisfactorily for me ... it's a bigger problem that digikam don't want to download new pictures :)09:27
archangel_larsivi: I want to say that the last program I used was 'photogragh' or something like that09:28
rr72does anyone have logs from the 24th of july?09:28
rr72for this channel09:28
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archangel_larsivi: I see09:28
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mmorrisCan anyone help me with this problem I am having?09:29
rr72!ask09:29
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)09:29
mmorrisEverytime I log in to Kubuntu, I have to type a series of commands (4 to be exact) in Konsole.  Is there a way I can create a file to do this automatically?09:30
rr72make it a bash script and run that on logon09:30
rr72don't konw exactly how to do it tho09:31
mmorrislol09:31
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rr72i know what u have to do tho09:31
mmorriswhat is that09:31
rr72i told u ;) run it when u logon09:31
mmorrisha09:31
rr72someone should help u09:31
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TheGateKeepermmorris: write a bash script in with commands, I think KDE has autostart so that may well be the place to get it executed, it is also possible to get a cron job to execute on start up09:33
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rr72how do i export my gcc version to somin else?09:34
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mmorrisTheGateKeeper:  I'm not familiar with bash script writing... I'm trying to read up quickly now, but if you could help, that would be great09:34
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soulriderhi everyone09:35
rr72hey soulrider09:36
TheGateKeepermmorris: sadly I'm not too hot on it myself, C++ is my natural language however this should help: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html09:36
soulriderhey TheGateKeeper09:36
cossidhonI have some problems with konqueror, could anyone help me with it?09:36
rr72u type #/bin/sh or somin then ur commands09:36
rr72make it executable09:36
rr72save in auto start09:36
soulriderhey rr7209:36
rr72in a file09:37
TheGateKeeperhiya soulrider09:37
soulriderim about to destroy my new comp09:37
rr72how?09:37
soulrider--------------><-------------- that close09:37
soulriderwell09:37
soulrideri went to windows to isntall the sound drivers so i could play some doom09:37
mmorrisTheGateKeeper:  Thanks09:37
soulriderbut guess what, ti wont install them,a dn when i open IE after like 10 seconds my comp freezes09:37
TheGateKeepermmorris: yw :-)09:37
soulriderhappened several times09:37
soulriderand now i come to kubuntu and one of my hard drive sis missing :)09:38
TheGateKeepermmorris: rr72 told you the rest anyway :-)09:38
rr72i don't think its right tho09:38
rr72i would be really surprised if it were09:38
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TheGateKeepersoulrider: hmmm you are having a good day!09:39
soulriderindeed!09:39
rr72how do i set my gcc version older with export command?09:39
soulrideras soon as my dad gets home im gonna tell himt o send the comp back :P09:39
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rr72someone told me but i forgot, it was a week ago09:40
soulriderand knowing how things are, theyre gonna install windwos and fork up my grub... again!09:40
aliasfredrr72: expore CC=gcc-3.409:40
aliasfredor close :)09:40
aliasfredexpore = export09:40
rr72that looks wrong to me09:40
rr72it was different last time09:40
alex_can anyone give me some advice on redistributing free space?09:40
aliasfredrr72: well it worked last time i tried :)09:41
rr723.4 is the wrong version09:41
TheGateKeeperrr72: now you have the answer install google notes in firefox :-)09:41
rr72i don't use firefox09:41
rr72i use lynx09:41
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rr72and there was a bath in there, the one i used09:42
slow-motion <rr72> make it executable < how?09:42
aliasfredrr72: hehe :) well ok the 3.4 was only to do the example. you obviously have to setit to your version :)09:42
TheGateKeeperrr72: have to use notes in kontact then :-)09:42
rr72i don't use kontact09:42
rr72slow-motion~ chmod +x /path/to/file09:42
slow-motionah ok thx09:43
rr72aliasfred~ did u help me with my signal 11 problem?09:43
aliasfrednope :)09:43
alex_ok, i just deleted my windows partition and was wondering how i can take the now unused space and make it available to my linux partition09:43
rr72aliasfred~ i forget who it was and the stupid bot makes things hard09:43
rr72he wasnt here the day i need the log for09:43
aliasfredalex_: format it as ext3 and mount it, that would do it :)09:43
rr72and noone logs this channel09:44
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alex_there's no way to just add the gigs to the linux part?09:44
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soulriderok, for on ast time ill restart, if this NTFS partition oesnt get mounted im gonna go out and shoot someone09:44
soulriderBBL09:44
aliasfredalex_: well i just told you how... why dont you like it ?09:44
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alex_because i can't access my mounted partition from my client computer09:46
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aliasfredalex_: ok im lost :)09:46
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alex_u did help though, thanks09:48
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aliasfredno problem :)09:48
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rr72who helped me with my signal 11 error last week?09:48
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mioemi_can any body tell me the latest virus that can affect linuz?09:49
rr72mioemi_~ PEBCAK09:50
mioemi_how does it react?09:51
rr72it logs into root and then rm -fr /09:51
mioemi_as it pattern09:51
mioemi_as in its pattern09:51
damian_i have the source code for the virus09:52
Martijn81mioemi_: search for that phrase ;)09:52
damian_it must be run as root09:52
damian_#!/bin/bash09:52
damian_rm -rf /09:52
narvik86:) nice one virus09:52
Martijn81damin_: we should help each other here, not destroy remember? :)09:53
rr72oh and whoever is looking for bash coding talk to damian_09:53
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aliasfredALL: dont try this rm command with -rf /, this erase the whole disk09:53
damian_lol09:53
aliasfredjust in case people doesnt know09:53
rr72who said taht?09:54
rr72people told me to do that09:54
rr72those dumb asses09:54
damian_wow09:54
damian_did you do it09:54
rr72heck nho09:54
rr72i asked my friend first and he said no09:54
KiDD420I was about to09:54
KiDD420thanks :P09:54
damian_yeah i've heard of peeps playing pranks on noobs like that09:54
aliasfredso the warning was not useless :)09:54
rr72i was one of the noobs09:54
KiDD420-rf removes confirmation?09:54
damian_yeah09:54
rr72go to chatjunkies and #linux09:55
rr72they do it all the time09:55
aliasfredKiDD420: -f remove confirmation and -r make it go thru all the subdirectories09:55
damian_ooh lemme try09:55
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rr72specielly syberghost09:55
rr72-f is like force ;)09:55
mioemi_Martini, which phrase?09:55
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rr72ok how do i export my gcc compiler to make nvidia driver install the kernel headers?09:57
rr72someone told me to save my system from signal 11 but i forgot who it was09:57
rr72then i asked him/her if i need to set it back to what it was and he said no it will do taht on restart09:58
rr72i speficily remember that09:58
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cossidhonHi, my tools menu in konqi is completely empty. any idea's?09:59
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rr72Ok my screen doesnt turn on10:01
rr72i think i need an nvidia driver, when i install i get errors about my gcc compiler being wrong bersion please help me10:02
KiDD420i love linux10:02
rr72i had a similier problem signal 1110:02
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rr72i fixed it but i need the export statement i did earlier10:02
rr72but ubotu wasnt here and i forgot who gave it to me, and .bash_history doesnt go back taht far10:03
damian_jihad osama bomb blow up muhammed alah terrorism infidel kill bush10:04
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nico8481_hi10:04
mioemi_U R mad damain10:05
damian_no10:05
steveireI'm surprised rm * works without confirmation.10:05
damian_i'm seeing if10:05
steveireseeing as the data is then unrecoverabl10:05
steveiree10:05
damian_the government is really spying on me10:05
damian_those words should set off their detection systems10:05
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nico8481_when i try to upgrade the system via adept, it shows me that kdelibs is in "broken (installed)" state, and it seems to prevent adept from upgrading the rest... any idea how to solve this?10:06
mioemi_but this place is not meant for politicians10:06
damian_does removing kdelibs work10:06
damian_and then reinstalling10:06
mioemi_we R techno here10:06
nico8481_damian_: can i uninstall kdelibs while running kde ?!10:07
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damian_no10:07
damian_uninstall it from console10:07
damian_without running x10:07
damian_then do apt-get install kdelibs10:07
damian_to get a fresh new copy10:07
KiDD420how do I make a simple shortcut on my desktop that will run firefox10:07
damian_KiDD issue the command whereis firefox10:08
damian_find out where it is10:08
damian_right click on the desktop and make a link to the executable10:08
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KiDD420link to application?10:08
damian_you could do it that way10:08
damian_or just link to the binary directly10:08
KiDD420how would I10:08
damian_are you running kubuntu or ubuntu10:09
KiDD420kde10:09
damian_ok10:09
damian_right click on the desktop10:09
damian_create new10:09
KiDD420k10:09
damian_link to app10:09
damian_then enter the path of firefox binary10:09
damian_use whereis firefox to find the path10:10
KiDD420enter the path where10:10
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damian_in the text field under the general tab in the window that pops up10:10
bgrimmKiDD420: or go to KDE menu. right click on Menu item and choose ADD TO DESKTOP10:10
nico8481_damian_: ok, it seems to be prevented to install because it tries to overwrite so file that is part of the ktorrent package10:11
KiDD420its not in the menu10:11
nico8481_some mimelnk... gonna see if i can force the install10:11
KiDD420I have it installed in my home folder10:11
nico8481_(remember the param to use?)10:11
rodrigo__Sombody could give me some repository for mp3 for Amarok?10:11
damian_oh10:11
damian_KiDD then find the binary in your home folder10:11
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damian_and put the path in the text field10:12
soulriderhey hey10:12
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rodrigo__soulrider: colud you give me a repository for mp3 for amarok?10:12
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soulriderrodrigo, i suggest you go to the amaork website10:13
soulridereverything is explained there on how to add MP3 support10:13
soulriderand repos10:13
steveire!mp310:13
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:13
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soulriderrodrigo__: esperame 2 minutos y te explico todo10:14
rodrigo__soulrider: oka XD10:14
KiDD420Ok10:15
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KiDD420In the application tab i have "'/home/levi/firefox/firefox-bin'" as the command and the workpath set to /home/levi/firefox10:15
KiDD420is that right10:15
KiDD420I can get it to load from console with ./firefox it shows some errors and runs anyways10:16
damian_what errors10:17
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KiDD420how do I view a channel list in konversation10:22
steveire /list ubuntu*10:22
KiDD420cool10:23
KiDD420I got my shorttcut working too10:23
KiDD420thanks10:23
steveireThere's thoudands of channels, so you'd want to restrict it10:23
steveireactually, you don't need the start10:23
steveirestar*10:23
KiDD420i dont know what Im looking dor10:23
steveirewant to browse?10:24
rodrigo__soulrider: dont forgive me soulrider.....:-)10:24
KiDD420yea10:24
KiDD420what the general chat room called?10:25
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steveireeh #freenode I think10:25
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RYS_SleepingHow do you enable root login for KDE on Kubuntu? I'm not able AllowRootLogin=true in the kderc file.10:26
RYS_SleepingIs there another locations?10:26
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RYS_or file to edit.10:27
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sebbarhello everybody. One question: I have a dsl connection configured through pppoeconf, the problem is that sometimes my eth1 isn't brought up on boot and I have to reboot in order for things to work. Any idea how I can bring it up without rebooting?10:29
RYS_ah,10:29
RYS_Never mind it's kdmrc, not kderc.10:29
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soulriderrodrigo__: in sec:P10:30
eduhi10:30
eduis the lt modem driver built-in in kubuntu?10:30
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rodrigo__soulrider: ok.......no problems!10:30
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sebbarit's just a plain dsl ethernet modem10:31
sebbarno need for drivers10:31
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sebbari think there was a command that scans for your ethernet interfaces but I don't remember which one10:32
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GBKwhere's the download manager?10:34
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soulriderrodrigo__: try this http://www.ubuntux.org/mp3-support-for-amarok10:34
rodrigo__soulrider: thank you very much soulrider10:35
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soulrider:)10:36
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KiDD420my first day on linux.... not too bad10:37
GBKi need a download manager for a large file. any ideas what to use?10:37
KiDD420if only I could play Call of DUty 210:37
abattoirGBK: kget ?10:38
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sebbarwget :-)10:38
GBKI have wget by default, so how do I download a file from internet?10:40
uniqwget http://somewhere.on.internet.com/dir/file.tar.gz10:40
sebbarwget http://.../file.ext10:40
sebbaroh man10:41
KiDD420ok I made a shortcut to run OTTD and when I click it it runs ottd and open a tab in bar saying opening ttd altho its running10:41
sebbartoo slow :-)10:41
crrjthat would be: man wget ;D10:41
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sebbaror RTFM :-D10:42
GBKok, so I know the page link, but I simply have this button called "download" click it and it begins10:42
GBKhow do I get that bit right?10:43
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sebbargbk can't you just download your file with firefox? how large is it?10:46
GBKits 400M+10:46
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GBKi have only about 48k max download speed10:47
sebbarfirefox has a resume downloading option, I don't think that will be a problem10:47
GBKyes, but if you quit, (turn of PC) then you cannot resume.10:49
KiDD420how do I make firefox the default webbrozer10:49
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sebbarwhats the file you want to download? can you tell us?10:50
alex___hi friends10:50
sebbarhi alex10:50
alex___i have a problem with adept,10:50
KiDD420who doesnt10:50
sebbarlool10:50
damian_GBK i recommend flashgot+kget10:50
uniqi don't.10:50
GBKhttp://www.gamershell.com/download_6363.shtml  the file is "steel panthers"10:51
alex___if i run adept from the kubuntu menu', i obtain this message "Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one."10:51
slow-motionn810:52
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uniq!adept crash fix > alex___10:52
alex___what is the other application?10:52
alex___how i can know what is the other application...10:53
uniq'fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock' will tell you iirc.10:53
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sebbarok gbk open konsole and type wget http://download10.gamershell.com/cgi-bin/fh2.pl?auth=jhLue0qGowlLI&id=6363&ts=1154811386&cat=demo&filename=SteelPanthersWorldAtWarSetup-v820.zip10:54
sebbarbut you know you probably won't be able to play this on linux right?10:54
alex___with the "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock", i don't obtain any errors10:55
GBKthanx, will do, i undrestand only the first bit of the url, how do you get the rest?10:56
nickayhi. I have a problem with kppp. When i am trying to connect with kppp i get an error: The pppd daemon died unexpectedly! Exit status: 1". There anyone who can help  me? Thanks10:57
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sebbarjust clicked on download and that's what it asked me to save :-)10:57
GBKoh. How do i know the download is continuing, where does it save the file and if I shut down my pc,how do I resume?10:59
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josephHello. Whenever I try to access my CD Rom drive I get this error: Could not enter folder /media/cdrom0, can anyone help me?11:01
nickayhi. I have a problem with kppp. When i am trying to connect with kppp i get an error: The pppd daemon died unexpectedly! Exit status: 1". There anyone who can help  me? Thanks11:02
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josephNo one responds here.11:03
josephBut on the #ubuntu channel, someone is always there.11:03
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crimsunis that really surprising? #ubuntu is the main support channel.11:04
crimsununless your issue is absolutely KDE-specific, often your question is better asked in #ubuntu.11:04
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lascari got kde back11:07
coachjhope someone will help, I tried ti install the 3d drivers for my ati 8500 now after rebooting ang adjusting and reboot again the screen realstate is only partly used, what do i do?11:07
lascarbut i seem to have lost kynaptic during the upgrade.  Can anyone help me get it back (apt-get won't work)?11:07
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KiDD420anyone here play privateer?11:11
lascari seem to have lost kynaptic during the upgrade.  Can anyone help me get it back (apt-get won't work)?11:12
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asimonlascar: I fear there is no kynaptic package for Dapper, acording to packages.ubuntu.com there are only packages for hoary and breezy.11:14
lascarasimon: so that leaves us with just apt-get?11:15
wolfmanzprivateer as in the old dos game?11:16
uniqlascar: it's been replaced with the new and shiny 'adept'11:17
uniqlascar: kmenu - system - adept.11:17
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asimonlascar: If you dont like Adept, you could also install 'synaptic', its no KDE application, but looks very similar to kynaptic11:18
urantheri changed my KDE colors to a high contrast white on black type thing, but now the user tooltips in Gaim are unreadable because it's white on light yellow11:18
lascarasimon: i tried that, still no go11:18
uranthernevermind, all the tooltips are like that11:18
lascarbut no worries, i'll make do with apt11:18
lascari like it better anyhow11:19
asimonlascar: What do you mean with no-go? Doesn't it work?11:19
lascarasimon: scratch that; my mistake.11:19
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lascarthanx anyway11:20
lascarlaterz11:20
asimon;-)11:20
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plhardyi just installed a kubuntu 6.06 dowloaded tofday on an external USB HDD and find at least three different bug that prevent it to work, the last one i need more time to fix it ( need to regenerate an initrd )11:21
KiDD420how do I make firefox my default broser?11:21
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plhardyis kubuntu install sharing same code than ubuntu one ( i mean for the generation of grub menu.lst ?)11:22
asimonuranther: yes, it looks like the color of these tooltips are hardcoded and don't follow the color theme. Not good.11:22
urantherasimon: so take it up with #gaim? :)11:23
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asimonuranther: I dunno, could also be a GTK+ issue, but I am sure the gaim people know much more about it then me.11:24
Philip5KiDD420: start konqueror and go into settings and change the file association for html files etc11:24
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heinkel_111it hink he suddenly disappeared11:24
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tsdgeosplhardy: probably11:24
plhardyi think i will fill some bugs then and propose fixes11:25
coachjI keep losing the video settings causing the display to use only a portion of the aviable realstate, help me please11:25
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KiDD420Philip5: Thanks THatttt works great11:27
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plugswhat does it mean when a package has no installation candidate?11:27
wolfmanz!easyubuntu11:29
ubotueasyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.11:29
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asimonplugs: I think that can mean that the package is a dependency of an other package but can not be found in the package database.11:31
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plugsah allright thanks11:32
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dekany idea why Krusader explorer crashes everytime I go to /dev/ ?11:33
wolfmanzhow loing will it take the ubuntu people to start using the 2.17 kernal?11:33
asimonwolfmanz: 2.6.17 will be the kernel for Edgy.11:34
wolfmanzlol and thats do out when?11:35
crimsunend of october.11:35
Tommywhy does my dads pc not power down, just stays at will now halt11:36
dekdjk_ i dont seem to have latest version11:36
deklet me update11:36
asimonYes, October, 26th.11:36
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catchmehas so experience in installing clamav on dapper11:37
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djk_how do i get a list of who has read/write access to which directory?11:38
wolfmanztommy thats a known bug11:38
wolfmanztommy i have had that same thing happen now about 4 times on power down11:38
catchmedjk try ls -l11:39
asimoncatchme: Sorry, I have no expierience with Clamav, but there is a page with some infos here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ClamAV11:39
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catchmethank you asimon11:40
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bgrimmis Minicom still the standard for use as a serial port/terminal program?11:47
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nagyvHello! Which chm reader would you recommend for kde? I always get an error with kchmviewver.11:51
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dekwhy my repositories download version 1.60.1 of Krusader when 1.70.1 is available? I try to update it manually downloading the .deb and i get some dependancies error11:53
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Hawkwinddek: Because 1.60.1 is the newest available on the mirrors11:54
asimonnagyv: kchmviewer works for me, but I only have 2 or 3 chm files. You could also try 'xchm', then there is also a gnome version called 'gnochm'11:54
dekwhat mirrors?11:54
crimsunand more precisely, 1.60.1 is the newest version available for dapper.11:54
dekoh ok then11:55
crimsun1.70.0 is for edgy, and you can't mix and match those binaries.11:55
jottdek: try automatix they provide a 1.70.0 build11:55
dekit crashes every time i surf to /dev/ :-/11:55
dekI wanted 1.70.1 to fix that11:55
crimsun1.70.1 is not in Sid yet.11:56
jottyou could build your own package using the 1.70.0 patch for the edgy build ;)11:56
crimsunimbrandon: ping? Any plans for krusader 1.70.1 (since it's in universe)?11:56
dekno idea how to, I'm new to Linux11:57
dek:P11:57
nagyvany ideas how to tie a device to a given mount point. My external winchester is sometimes recognized as sda1, sdb1, etc. I gave it a label and put it into fstab, but even that did not helped. Is there any way to have it mounted always under the same direcory?11:58
jottyuck.. huge patch file for the edgy build...11:58
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nagyvasimon: xchm works, thx11:59
dekI have another question, how can I make ALL of my NTFS mounted partitions appear in system:/media/ ? They appear in /media/12:00
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eelcohello, does any one know why my user password doesn't work for Adept?12:05
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