[12:09] <soulrider> !mp3
[12:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:10] <XVampireX> Hi
[12:10] <XVampireX> !kbfx
[12:10] <ubotu> kbfx is a replacement menu for KDE with enhanced features
[12:10] <XVampireX> huh
[12:10] <XVampireX> Can anyone help me install kbfx?
[12:10] <XVampireX> SVN
[12:10] <nixternal> heh, bad memory!!!
[12:10] <XVampireX> please?
[12:11] <TheGateKeeper> nixternal: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=c65377ad0afaae12d71bc370d8d08508&topic=609.from1154553701;topicseen#msg1338
[12:13] <cpk2> i dont think you need to downgrade from .4 anymore?
[12:13] <bl3ssing> downgrade? like can I downgrade from kubuntu 6.0.6 to kubuntu 5.10?
[12:13] <TheGateKeeper> cpk2: just incase :-)
[12:14] <cpk2> why would you want to bl3ssing?
[12:14] <Agios> XVampireX: apt-get install kbfx kubuntu-artwork-kbfx
[12:14] <bl3ssing> cpk2, was just a question.
[12:14] <TheGateKeeper> bl3ssing: we are talking KDE here
[12:14] <XVampireX> Agios hmm, I hope that works
[12:15] <Agios> should if you have yout sources right
[12:15] <bl3ssing> win+M means minimize all the windows in Windows XP. is there any command like that in linux?
[12:16] <nixternal> does the Memtest program work at all?
[12:16] <nixternal> everytime i run it, i get different results
[12:17] <Agios> memtest86+ ? Yes, it works quite well.
[12:17] <Hawkwind> nixternal: It needs to be run for atleast 12 hours though to get accurate results
[12:18] <nixternal> ahhh...so i will make a mental note then to never use it, and to just plug in my sticks to my mem tester which will spit out everything in 5 seconds ;)
[12:20] <Ertain> Has anyone had any troubles with getting ManDVD 2.0.10?  I've had some problems.
[12:22] <mmorris> anybody in here?
[12:22] <nixternal> no we all left..will be back soon :)
[12:22] <DaSkreech> bl3ssing: Alt+Ctrl+D
[12:22] <mmorris> I am havintg to open my console everytime I restart my computer.  Is there some kind of file I can create that will type in all of my commands for me
[12:22] <DaSkreech> !Autostart
[12:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about Autostart - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:23] <nixternal> yes it should
[12:23] <DaSkreech> `Anyway I have to go home now
[12:23] <nixternal> create it then ;)_
[12:23] <DaSkreech> Night!!
[12:26] <nixternal> ARG!@#@
[12:27] <Ertain> I wonder why I can't get the latest version of ManDVD?
[12:28] <cpk2> does it set kbfx to the default menu if yo install it?
[12:28] <cpk2> you*
[12:28] <cpk2> my wireless seems to keep dying
[12:29] <bl3ssing> who knows a good free music composing program in linux?
[12:30] <cpk2> so anyone have any idea why my wireless card seems to die all the time? i have to continusly do ifdown ifup on it and am using ndiswrapper
[12:36] <creature_> hi
[12:39] <soylose> de donde es esta sala que pais?
[12:39] <Kyral> !es
[12:39] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:39] <luke_> how do u extract an .exe?
[12:39] <Kyral> ...You don't
[12:39] <soylose> whatttttttttttttt
[12:40] <luke_> true, damn i fail
[12:41] <soylose> what is this shitttt
[12:41] <luke_> ?
[12:41] <soylose> i dont understand
[12:41] <Kyral> huh?
[12:42] <soylose> walls of jericho
[12:42] <Kyral> ....
[12:43] <mighty-d> hola
[12:43] <bl3ssing> i have a source code. how can I compile and than, install in order to use it?
[12:44] <mighty-d> first check if you'got build-essential
[12:44] <mighty-d> sudo apt-get -f install build-essential
[12:45] <canllaith> ullo, anyone around who uses an iPod in Kubuntu ?
[12:48] <nixternal> APIC error on CPU0: 01(01)
[12:48] <nixternal> lovely!
[12:50] <Agios> noapic
[12:50] <Agios> if you can
[12:50] <nixternal> amd xp 2000+
[12:51] <nixternal> this machine is so hosed now
[12:51] <nixternal> a freakin' upgrade killed it
[12:51] <Agios> upgrades do that sometimes
[12:51] <Agios> you do backups?
[12:52] <nixternal> ~/ is seperate and my only worry
[12:52] <Agios> format and clean install then
[12:52] <cpk2> anyone have any idea why i keep on losing my wireless connection? using ndiswrapper and every 5-15 minutes have to do sudo ifdown sudo ifup to bring my connection back up
[12:52] <nixternal> heh, that sounds like a typical windows solution though ;)
[12:53] <Agios> I've never had an upgrade that didn't hose up somethng.
[12:53] <nixternal> i have never had a problem actually on my other system
[12:53] <plugs> can someone help me out? amarok and kaffeine won't play my mp3s, they just start and end and go down the list.
[12:54] <nixternal> !restricted
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[12:54] <nixternal> there you go plugs ^^
[12:54] <plugs> hmmm
[12:54] <darthlukan> hello everyone
[12:54] <Agios> plugs: start them from a command line and see what errors pop up
[12:54] <Agios> probably missing codecs or plugins
[12:55] <darthlukan> question: anybody good with synaptic on amd_64 dapper?
[12:57] <darthlukan> specifically with installing wine? I looked on the ubuntu forums and there was a very good post about it, but for some reason i get erroes
[01:02] <nanaki_> hey crimsun, you around?
[01:02] <darthlukan> console output from trying to $sudo apt-get --build source wine : checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[01:02] <darthlukan> See `config.log' for more details.
[01:02] <darthlukan> make: *** [config.status]  Error 77
[01:02] <darthlukan> Build command 'cd wine-0.9.18~winehq0~ubuntu~6.06 && dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc' failed.
[01:02] <darthlukan> E: Child process failed
[01:03] <darthlukan> anyone got any ideas?
[01:03] <darthlukan> i already invoked $sudo apt-get build-deps wine
[01:03] <Hawkwind> darthlukan: Use a pastebin instead of flooding the channel
[01:03] <darthlukan> what's that?
[01:04] <Hawkwind> pastebin.ca
[01:04] <__osh__> darthlukan: and you've got build-essentials installed?
[01:04] <darthlukan> yeah
[01:04] <Hawkwind> !pastebin
[01:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:04] <darthlukan> thanks
[01:05] <__osh__> darthlukan: looks like you've got some issues with your c compiler. what's the version of the compiler you have installed?
[01:05] <darthlukan> gcc 3.4 if i remember right
[01:06] <__osh__> darthlukan: not 4.0? I've got that.
[01:06] <darthlukan> let me check, i just installed it today ;_
[01:06] <nanaki_> well hey i guess crimsun isn't here but one of you other guys might know what to do
[01:07] <nanaki_> i submitted a bug to launchpad a while ago, a minor cosmetic thing
[01:07] <nanaki_> well i just found a fix for it inadvertently
[01:07] <nanaki_> what should i do with the bug?
[01:07] <darthlukan> gcc 4.0.3
[01:07] <nanaki_> i hesitate to change it to fix released because it's not like a change in the kubuntu package was made
[01:07] <__osh__> nanaki_: report how to fix it in the bugreport.
[01:07] <nanaki_> see the page here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gtk-qt-engine/+bug/53958
[01:07] <nanaki_> ya i did that
[01:07] <nanaki_> should i change the status at all?
[01:08] <__osh__> nanaki_: that's what I'd do. Then leave it. Someone who's handeling that package will decide what to do with it.
[01:08] <nanaki_> ok thanks
[01:08] <__osh__> darthlukan: can you compile anything with the gcc you've got installed?
[01:10] <plugs> how do i let myself write to my sources.list which is owned by root?
[01:10] <darthlukan> do i just copy the pastebin link to chat?
[01:10] <__osh__> darthlukan: yep
[01:10] <darthlukan> ok
[01:10] <__osh__> plugs: sudo before your edit command.
[01:10] <plugs> i'll try that
[01:11] <darthlukan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19728
[01:11] <darthlukan> i compiled vmware just fine last night
[01:11] <darthlukan> C compiler was going fast too, but for some reason i have issues installing any version of wine that i have tried
[01:12] <__osh__> darthlukan: perhaps a dumb question, but why compile everything? Why not using the binary packages? Not that it shouldn't work, but why?
[01:12] <jmichaelx> in many cases, when i try to view embedded streaming video, i can get the audio, but where the video should be, i just have a black box that says 'no picture'. would anyone have an idea what i need to do to get this fixed?
[01:12] <darthlukan> i was getting errors that there was no candidate
[01:12] <darthlukan> even though i followed the walkthrough in the forum to the letter
[01:13] <darthlukan> otherwise i would have just apt-get'd everything, so much easier!
[01:13] <__osh__> darthlukan: sure is.
[01:14] <darthlukan> not as easy as emerge in gentoo, but easy nonetheless
[01:14] <darthlukan> ;)
[01:14] <__osh__> darthlukan: emerge is easier than apt-get? how?
[01:15] <darthlukan> easier for me to remember the commands
[01:15] <__osh__> darthlukan: my wine from the repos is 0.9.9, which seems to be newer than what you're trying to build.
[01:16] <darthlukan> and there are a lot of builtin options for fast mirrors
[01:16] <darthlukan> did you have to do anything special to get apt-get to recognize it as a good candidate?
[01:16] <__osh__> darthlukan: not that I dont' like emerge, I've tried it, but eventually I got bored with gentoo. too much time wasted on fixing things that should have been the default.
[01:17] <__osh__> darthlukan: what do you mean by "good candidate"?
[01:17] <darthlukan> true true
[01:17] <darthlukan> the console output says that there are no good candidtates for install
[01:17] <darthlukan> i'll pastebin the output
[01:18] <kakalto> is there or is there not issues with kde3.5.4 atm?
[01:18] <__osh__> I just installed wine 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 on my machine. seems to have gone quite well.
[01:19] <darthlukan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19729
[01:19] <darthlukan> there you go
[01:19] <darthlukan> i was trying to install wine-0.9.18
[01:19] <darthlukan> the newest one
[01:19] <darthlukan> i think
[01:19] <kakalto> darthlukan: what repos do you have enabled?
[01:19] <kakalto> !wine > kakalto
[01:20] <darthlukan> the defaults
[01:20] <kakalto> !wine > darthlukan
[01:20] <darthlukan> what is that?
[01:20] <__osh__> !wine > _osh_
[01:21] <kakalto> instructions
[01:21] <kakalto> heheh.
[01:21] <darthlukan> ahh thanks
[01:21] <darthlukan> be back in a minute after i read those
[01:22] <kakalto> okie dokie
[01:22] <kakalto> good luck with it =)
[01:22] <__osh__> darthlukan: kakalto probably can help you better than me. I'm off to bed anyway.
[01:22] <darthlukan> thanks osh for trying
[01:24] <__osh__> darthlukan: no worries. good luck.
[01:27] <rOOb> anyone have any kinda idea why anything with wine can and does lock up or restart my computer....
[01:27] <lmosher> Physical security isn't a concern for my laptop, but making things simple for my wife is... Is there a way to make the login screen look more like windows? I.E. just click a picture and you log in?
[01:27] <shadedpast> help, I'm trying to play starcraft on a network with udp but when i click udp it unable to establish a connection or whatever, it worked on ubuntu
[01:28] <rOOb> i have cedega,wine ,and crossover office and they all can crash my computer...i say it cuz sometimes it does
[01:28] <shadedpast> no clu roob
[01:29] <rOOb> my system will just suddenyl reboot...or freeze....
[01:29] <Agios> rOOb: might want to test your ram
[01:29] <linuxgoober> celeron is i586 right?
[01:29] <rOOb> doesnt even look like it makes it to the logs
[01:29] <rOOb> Agios, i will but i doubt its the ram
[01:30] <jmichaelx> in many cases, when i try to view embedded streaming video, i can get the audio, but where the video should be, i just have a black box that says 'no picture'. would anyone have an idea what i need to do to get this fixed?
[01:30] <Hawkwind> rOOb: Definitely sounds like a hardware issue
[01:30] <Hawkwind> rOOb: Simple solution, use Windows if that's the right tool for the job :)
[01:30] <Agios> linuxgoober: I believe that is correct
[01:31] <shadedpast> any one no why starcraft doesn't work with wine?
[01:31] <linuxgoober> ok thanx Agios
[01:31] <rOOb> Hawkwind, well i already have cedega running the games i care about....and i want to install photoshop with crossover office........
[01:31] <Hawkwind> shadedpast: Ask the guys in #WineHQ
[01:31] <shadedpast> o srrry k
[01:31] <rOOb> it worked great when i was on mandriva......i used it till the day i installed kubuntu
[01:32] <Hawkwind> rOOb: Still doesn't eliminate a hardware problem that might have come about since then
[01:32] <Agios> rOOb: how's your swap space and usage?
[01:32] <Hawkwind> rOOb: Though I'd ask the guys in #WineHQ or #Cedega since they are experts on that junky app
[01:33] <rOOb> Agios, i dont even use half of my ram...i have 2 gigs
[01:33] <rOOb> and i dont think any swap is in use
[01:34] <Dr_Willis> I got 1.5 bg ram - rarely touch swap if ever
[01:34] <rOOb> yea i saw my puter use around 900- to 1 gig...and thats very very rare
[01:34] <Agios> Dr_Willis: but are you running wine, etc? :)
[01:35] <Dr_Willis> I have.. Lets see... :P
[01:35] <rOOb> what would be the best place to check for errors....syslog?....
[01:35] <Hawkwind> rOOb: /var/log/messages
[01:35] <Hawkwind> rOOb: Or /var/log/syslog
[01:35] <Dr_Willis> Installing wine
[01:36] <darthlukan> kakalto: i added the repos in adept and fetched the updates, but wine is still not an option
[01:37] <Hawkwind> darthlukan: # Bleeding edge wine packages (packages)
[01:37] <Hawkwind> deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[01:37] <Agios> it's listed in mine, you need more sources
[01:37] <Hawkwind> darthlukan: Add those two lines to your /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:37] <Ash-Fox> !sources
[01:37] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:37] <Ash-Fox> !easysource
[01:37] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:37] <Dr_Willis> >hic<
[01:37] <Hawkwind> darthlukan: That sources has wine 0.9.18
[01:38] <Agios> I thought all wine packages were bleeding edge
[01:38] <darthlukan> i have those in my sources.list already
[01:38] <Hawkwind> darthlukan: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine
[01:38] <darthlukan> ok
[01:38] <Hawkwind> darthlukan: Then that should install the latest wine version available
[01:40] <rOOb> well in syslog i see this right b4 the restart.....but my hard drive seems fine....no noises no errors nothing..... http://pastebin.ca/115948
[01:41] <rOOb> not even sure if that is related to the restart....its like 4 minuets off....
[01:41] <darthlukan> Hawkwind: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19730
[01:41] <Agios> that would make me want to do a backup real soon
[01:42] <darthlukan> wine repos don't work, but defaults do
[01:42] <rOOb> is there a disk checking utility?.....
[01:42] <Hawkwind> darthlukan: Notice your sources are different from mine.  You do NOT have 'main' for that source listed
[01:43] <Hawkwind> darthlukan: They work here, I just tested it when I pasted you the info
[01:43] <Hawkwind> rOOb: Is hdb a cdrom ?
[01:43] <rOOb> Hawkwind, no clue....it says tray open
[01:43] <Stardog> when i try to add my printer, i get an errormsg that i cant do it because I do not have the rights... anyone know why?
[01:43] <jhak88> anyone: there's nothing on /usr/src... what's going on??
[01:43] <Hawkwind> rOOb: Ummm you should know if it is or not, it's your system
[01:44] <rOOb> Hawkwind, could crossover office have mucked somthing up and got stuck in loop....making my system mess up?
[01:44] <jhak88> anyone: Anybody know where is the Ubuntu (Kubuntu 6.06 Dapper) Kernel Source is??
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> wine Xtet.exe
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> :)
[01:44] <Hawkwind> rOOb: Is hdb a cdrom ?
[01:44] <rOOb> Hawkwind, well i have one hard drive and its sda1-10
[01:45] <Hawkwind> rOOb: This is a prime example why I don't use this junky software.  Ya'll want to get away from Windows and run Linux, yet you turn right back around and emulate Windows in Linux.  It's totally contradictary
[01:45] <rOOb> and 2 other drives..one dvd rom and one dvd burner
[01:45] <Hawkwind> rOOb: That's *not* what I asked you
[01:45] <Hawkwind> rOOb: Is hdb a cdrom/dvd-rom or similar ?
[01:45] <jhak88> anyone: Anybody know where is the Ubuntu (Kubuntu 6.06 Dapper) Kernel Source is??
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> wine and xtet.exe used up   220596 - 238948    ram.
[01:45] <Hawkwind> jhak88: No need to repeat yourself
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> whatever that diff is. :P
[01:46] <rOOb> Hawkwind, how can i check...... eject /dev/hdb?
[01:46] <Hawkwind> rOOb: Possibly.  But you should know how your system is set up and built
[01:46] <darthlukan> Hawkwind: so i need to add main before universe multiverse?
[01:46] <Hawkwind> rOOb: Surely you would know what cable/chain your cdroms are on
[01:46] <Hawkwind> darthlukan: Add the source I posted you above
[01:46] <rOOb> Hawkwind, i didnt keep track of that..i do however know my main hdd
[01:47] <Hawkwind> rOOb: As a system admin, you *should* keep track of that though incase you need to know in a time like this
[01:47] <rOOb> Hawkwind, hehe yea i have no clue what calbe its on....
[01:47] <draik> Hello everybody
[01:47] <draik> Does anyone know how to read/write to NTFS partition?
[01:48] <draik> !ntfs > me
[01:48] <Hawkwind> rOOb: Do yourself a favor, learn that info real quick.  It'll only benefit you in the long run
[01:48] <Hawkwind> draik: Linux can't write to NTFS yet
[01:49] <Hawkwind> draik: It can with special apps, but even those are very questionable and not recommended at all
[01:49] <draik> Hawkwind, keyword YET
[01:49] <Agios> jhak88: package linux-source
[01:49] <Hawkwind> draik: It'll probably never write to NTFS either
[01:50] <jhak88> where is it stored on the hard disk?
[01:50] <jhak88> Agios: I need to edit the kernel for NTFS writing
[01:50] <Agios> nowhere until you install it, most people just install the headers
[01:50] <draik> Hawkwind, I only have dual boot with winxp for my gf. I modified some files for her and wanted to save them on her partition so that she can freely access them.
[01:50] <Hawkwind> LOL didn't I just mention that Linux can not write to NTFS
[01:51] <jhak88> yes it can
[01:51] <RichJ>  /etc/init.d/rc: line 36: 3026 Segmentation fault            $@
[01:51] <RichJ> anyone?
[01:51] <Agios> jhak88: apt-get install linux-source
[01:51] <Stardog> when i try to add my printer, i get an errormsg that i cant do it because I do not have the rights... anyone know why?
[01:51] <jmichaelx> in many cases, when i try to view embedded streaming video, i can get the audio, but where the video should be, i just have a black box that says 'no picture'. would anyone have an idea what i need to do to get this fixed?
[01:51] <draik> I know, I just thought there was a way, prior to asking the channel
[01:51] <Hawkwind> jhak88: No it can't.  Not successfully without special apps, and even those are very questionable and not recommended
[01:51] <jhak88> Hawkwind: my friends that are Gentoo users do it all the time
[01:51] <Hawkwind> jhak88: Ok.  Best of luck.  Don't come crying when we told you not to
[01:51] <Hawkwind> jhak88: It will destroy the data, guaranteed
[01:52] <Agios> Hawkwind: there was a recent update of some kind to make NTFS r/w support whole. I remember reading it a couple of weeks ago.
[01:52] <bigbill52a> she can export from ext3 to ntfs
[01:52] <jhak88> Hawkwind: no need for me to cry, I really dont believe you at all.  Other linux distros can do it, why cant ubuntu?
[01:52] <Agios> I don't remember the details as I have no NTFS.
[01:52] <Hawkwind> Agios: But it still doesn't work.  You still have to use special apps unfortunately
[01:52] <bigbill52a> just a sec
[01:53] <Hawkwind> jhak88: Linux in general can't without special tools.  Read what I'm saying
[01:53] <Agios> I can't argue that since I didn't pay all that much attention LOL
[01:53] <Hawkwind> Gentoo users think they own the world too.  I wouldn't believe a word they say
[01:53] <jhak88> Hawkwind: that's not true, Gentoo does it with simple write support compiled in the kernel.  So what you are saying is not true
[01:54] <Hawkwind> jhak88: That's not true.  Gentoo uses a special app, it's *not* part of the kernel
[01:54] <jhak88> yes it is, it has kernel support
[01:54] <bigbill52a> explore2fs allows you to import files from linux to windows...from the windows side
[01:54] <jhak88> you enable support in the kernel and then you can write to it
[01:54] <Hawkwind> jhak88: Ok.  Believe ehat you want man.  Good luck
[01:54] <bigbill52a> so much for passwords protecting your files...
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> or theres that ext2/3 file system for windows :)
[01:54] <Hawkwind> jhak88: If that was the case, then everyone would be doing it
[01:55] <draik> I'm with you Hawkwind, I just read !fuse and !mountingPartitions
[01:55] <jhak88> no worries, I'll believe the truth ;)
[01:55] <bigbill52a> it is an exe file for windows..i use it all the time
[01:55] <Hawkwind> draik: Exactly
[01:55] <Hawkwind> draik: But jhak88 seems to think differently.  He'll learn the hardway
[01:55] <Agios> It's only windows data anyway. Good test data.
[01:55] <bigbill52a> i like to download movies in linux and then import them into windows...
[01:56] <draik> Hawkwind, you bringing the popcorn or should I?
[01:56] <Gonzo> is there a way to double the size of the task bar without increasing the size of the panels next to the K menu?
[01:56] <jhak88> Hawkwind, then I guess ubuntu's kernel needs a few tweaks ;)
[01:56] <Hawkwind> draik: I won't even waste good popcorn
[01:56] <draik> LOL
[01:56] <Hawkwind> jhak88: The kernel period, not just Ubuntu d00d.  Get a clue
[01:56] <CVirus-Cilantro> how can i update the KDE menu ?
[01:56] <darthlukan> Hawkwind: i just tried it with your sources, i can browse to the site and search it and everything, but apt-get can't connect to it
[01:56] <bigbill52a> kappfinder, i believe
[01:56] <darthlukan> Hawkwind:here is the pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19731
[01:56] <jhak88> Hawkwind, ever used gentoo-sources?  rather than vanilla?  try it, maybe you'll get a decent kernel then ;)
[01:57] <Hawkwind> darthlukan: Strange.  Maybe it's a DNS issue on your end or something
[01:57] <darthlukan> Hawkwind: maybe
[01:57] <Hawkwind> LOL @ try Gentoo.  I have a hobby.  I don't need one on my computer too
[01:57] <darthlukan> Hawkwind: but apt finds all of the other sources/mirrors
[01:58] <Hawkwind> darthlukan: Ahhh, you're using 64Bit ?
[01:58] <darthlukan> yeah
[01:58] <Hawkwind> There probably isn't a new wine for that yet
[01:58] <darthlukan> winehq says that i shouldn't have a problem with the new release
[01:58] <Agios> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=23836054&forum_id=2697
[01:59] <Agios> there's the URL for the NTFS stuff I saw a couple of weeks ago
[01:59] <Pupeno> Any idea how to do a search and replace in all the files in a directory ?
[01:59] <bigbill52a> http://www.chrysocome.net/explore2fs
[01:59] <Hawkwind> Pupeno: You'd want to use find
[02:00] <jollyroger> Can someone tell me which repositories to use and whats the difference?
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> !easysource
[02:00] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:00] <Pupeno> Hawkwind: I tried find . -exec sed -v 's/a/b/g' {} > {} ";" but it didn't work.
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> they containe differnet packjages - normally due to licening issues.
[02:00] <Hawkwind> Pupeno: I don't know bash well enough, have you asked in #Bash maybe ?
[02:01] <Pupeno> Hawkwind: not yet.
[02:01] <Pupeno> Hawkwind: and I am not really using bash.
[02:01] <Hawkwind> Pupeno: Try, but find uses bash to do what you're wanting which is why I suggested that
[02:01] <Pupeno> Hawkwind: the find part works... the sed part seems to be the problem.
[02:04] <jmichaelx> grrrrr
[02:04] <Stardog> when i try to add my printer, i get an errormsg that i cant do it because I do not have the rights... anyone know why?
[02:04] <draik> Hawkwind, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19732
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> Stardog,  you using the CUPS web itterface?
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> Stardog,  or the kde interface/tool?
[02:10] <Stardog> Dr_Willis: the kde interface/tool
[02:11] <Dr_Willis> Stardog,  i never can get aprinter working with that  :P i always use the gnome tool. It just seems towork better.
[02:11] <Dr_Willis> or the cups web interface - after i reenable it.
[02:11] <rOOb> welp there is no info on my problem so shit............i cant use photoshop or a few games..... real pain in the ass i realy want photoshop insalled.........
[02:11] <Dr_Willis> rOOb,  what problem?
[02:12] <rOOb> somethings with wine causes my computer to compleatly freeze...or suddenly reboot
[02:12] <Agios> Hawkwind: he;s going to hose things up compiling the kernel anyway because it's a good bit different for k/ubuntu than for gentoo.
[02:12] <jmichaelx> grrrrr
[02:13] <jmichaelx> oops
[02:13] <jmichaelx> in many cases, when i try to view embedded streaming video, i can get the audio, but where the video should be, i just have a black box that says 'no picture'. would anyone have an idea what i need to do to get this fixed?\\\\\\\\\\\\
[02:13] <rOOb> well im trying photoshop in cedega atm..and its gotten further then it did b4
[02:14] <Stardog> Dr_Willis: And how do i do that?
[02:14] <Agios> I think I would dual boot weeners before going through all that hassle.
[02:14] <wolfmanz> jmichaelx have you installed all the codecs that you can get fro easy ubuntu?
[02:14] <Dr_Willis> http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2117/     for the cups renabling.. or install  /run  gnome-cups-manager
[02:15] <jmichaelx> wolfmanz: i installed everything from automatix and ap-get that i could find
[02:15] <wolfmanz> do you have a link i can look at and see if i can see the video?
[02:15] <Dr_Willis> normally ya just install a totem-firefox  package or whatever. tha tsets a specific video program to be the embeded player
[02:16] <jmichaelx> wolfmanz: i have not tried easyubuntu,,,,,, i two other kubuntu PCs, and they have no issues with streaming video
[02:16] <jmichaelx> wolfmanz: i cannot view most of the videos from yahoo, or any videos from CNN, for example
[02:16] <kbrooks> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1339967
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> i found eazyubuntu tobe lacking.. and automatix to be  even more so. :P
[02:17] <kbrooks> be more specific Dr_Willis
[02:17] <kbrooks> :-)
[02:17] <kbrooks> Dr_Willis: how is EU lacking?
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> kbrooks,  lets just say that neither worked very well.
[02:18] <jmichaelx> automatix has worked well for me..... the only issue i have is getting streaming video to work on this laptop
[02:18] <kbrooks> Dr_Willis: im a developer. please be more specific!
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> EU  had things to install java and the ati - that dident work. :) for one..
[02:18] <kbrooks> Dr_Willis: cant you be more specific? we can fix this
[02:19] <wolfmanz> ya i just tried CNN and they use windows media player witch i dont have lol
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> kbrooks,  i clicked java and ati, and it ran a bit, and dident install either.. so  i installed them by hand. :P i dident take notes.
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> it did download them..
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> I think with the java  thers Somthing that needs tobe installed to show its EULA.
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> and if thats not installed - it dont show it.. so it dont install.
[02:19] <jmichaelx> wolfmanz: cnn videos work fine on my other PCS which run kubuntu and mepis\
[02:19] <kbrooks> Dr_Willis: libqt3-mt, i think.
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> kbrooks,  yea.  some sort of dialog thing i recall.
[02:20] <wolfmanz> jmichaelx: ya i'm not sure how you would solve this problem
[02:20] <kbrooks> Dr_Willis: no wait. ill look into it
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> i had the same issue when installing java from syaptic and the shell.
[02:21] <kbrooks> Dr_Willis: did dpkg mention anything about perl?
[02:21] <Stardog> Dr_Willis: that cupslink was for configuring printers right?
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> Stardog,  yea - cups web interfaceis crippled sadly.. takes about 3 commands to reenable it so it can be used.
[02:21] <jmichaelx> !easyubuntu
[02:21] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> kbrooks,  dident notice.
[02:22] <Dr_Willis> kbrooks,  this was about 2 weeks ago i last messed with it.
[02:22] <kbrooks> Dr_Willis: dang :-)
[02:22] <kbrooks> Dr_Willis: atm im running kubuntu, so ill look into it for you
[02:22] <Stardog> Dr_Willis: kk... thx... Ill try that
[02:22] <Dr_Willis> Thats it! easy ubuntu needs to  have a reenable cups option. :P
[02:22] <Dr_Willis> heh.
[02:22] <kbrooks> Dr_Willis: no :|
[02:23] <kbrooks> Dr_Willis: thats not important
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> It is to me..
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> its also about a 4 line bash script
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> "This program is pupppyware - if you use it you must donate $$ to the local animal shelter"
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> :P
[02:24] <rOOb> crap...photoshop insatlls fine with cedega but it doesnt run :(
[02:24] <rikioh> something very weird is happening
[02:24] <draik> I have a 7 year-old nephew. Would (anybody) recommend Edubuntu or straight on Kubuntu?
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> Im not even sure whats in Edubuntu
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> other then some funky themes. :)
[02:24] <draik> He was good with a PC when his grandparents were around (they moved out of state)
[02:24] <wolfmanz> jmichaelx: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Yahoo_launch
[02:25] <rikioh> something very weird is happening at my home my cell phone number is showing up on the caller id when the home telephone rings and when i answer its the voice of samuel L. jackson in a recording... it also called my mom's cellphone and my dads cell phone
[02:25] <draik> !edubuntu
[02:25] <ubotu> Edubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org
[02:25] <rikioh> but its showing up as if my cell phone was the one calling
[02:26] <lmosher> When I'm using Xgl and I hibernate my laptop, when I turn it back on I get graphical glitces above/below the bottom/top gnome panels. Any ideas why or how to fix it?
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> I think xgl is one of thost 'work in progress things' :)
[02:26] <lmosher> yeah yeah :P
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> actually  Hibernate seems to be a Work in progress also.
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> :P
[02:26] <draik> I used XGL for a bit
[02:26] <draik> wasn't too thrilled
[02:26] <lmosher> really? it's really increased my productivity at work
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> I tested out a live cd with it..
[02:27] <draik> especially when it crapped out my 1st install of Kubuntu
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> i dont see how it will increase anything other then my Nausa Level.
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> :)
[02:27] <lmosher> lol the expose mode and transparency is why I use it
[02:27] <draik> lmosher, it's all preference I suppose
[02:27] <lmosher> I don't care about wiggling windows :P
[02:27] <draik> I don't care about wiggling and much less about windows
[02:28] <wolfmanz> jmichaelx: let me know if that works for you
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> :P
[02:28] <lmosher> but I like the expose mode and various other things that allow me to keep track of my windows. I tend to have a lot open and i tmakes it easier
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> I tend to just use multi dekstops and  never seem tolose any. :P
[02:29] <jmichaelx> wolfmanz: thank you, i will try that
[02:29] <the-erm> anyone here know where i can get php-mbstring ?
[02:29] <lmosher> well yeah I manage to fill all 4
[02:29] <the-erm> I've googled and ... ya lots of unrelated pages.
[02:29] <lmosher> and I don't think I could deal with more than 4...
[02:29] <CVirus-Cilantro> how can i update the KDE menu ?
[02:29] <lmosher> I tried 8 once and I kept getting lost.. would spend half my time trying to remember which ap is where
[02:29] <lmosher> now i hit F10 and they all fly in on one screen and I click the one I want :P
[02:30] <lmosher> anyway, as draik said it's all in preference.
[02:30] <kbrooks_> lol
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> My F10 is used to 'quit mc' and it better stay that way!! :)
[02:31] <draik> My F10 does nothing for me
[02:31] <lmosher> eww mc :P
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> amazing how i can use mc in a terminal, and notneed 4+ windows open to drag/drop things
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> mc pwns you! :P
[02:32] <draik> I wish that I could use all the media buttons on my keyboard
[02:32] <lmosher> I just use mv and cp
[02:32] <lmosher> sometimes rm, but I'm a bit of a packrat
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> last i checked the printed man pages for mc was like .. a lot.. :)
[02:32] <lmosher> lol yeah it's kinda crazy
[02:33] <draik> Is there a way of getting Media buttons to work in Kubuntu?
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> 2227  lines.
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> :)
[02:34] <lmosher> draik, Normally (in doze) you install a special driver for it... so I would grab a keygrabber and hit those buttons and see if you get lucky...
[02:34] <draik> keygrabber?
[02:34] <lmosher> a program tat tells you what button you've just pushed
[02:35] <lmosher> I had one (this was in windows though) when my keyboard kept breaking and I wanted to check it
[02:35] <lmosher> I got lucky, though, in linux my "volume up" button would trigger a new console tab in Konsole :P
[02:35] <draik> I have the Logitech Elite Keyboard
[02:35] <lmosher> (passed ctrl+n for some reason)
[02:36] <draik> well, my side scroll wheel works as up/down in my messages
[02:36] <draik> But I listen to my music on this desktop all the time
[02:37] <lmosher> draik, behold the power of the google: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=125333
[02:37] <draik> and I listen to it alot when I'm working on my car.
[02:37] <draik> Google never amazes me
[02:38] <lmosher> I'm ratting you out once they take over the planet
[02:38] <mmorris> sometimes there are people in these rooms who just come in b/c they want to help people learn kubuntu.... are there any people in here like that now?
[02:38] <mmorris> b/c I need help... lol
[02:38] <draik> SWEETNESS!!!! Thanks lmosher
[02:38] <tristanmike> mmorris: I'd say most of us are like that
[02:38] <lmosher> mmorris, you don't have to ask to ask a question :)
[02:39] <mmorris> lol
[02:39] <mmorris> well, i dont really have a specific question... I just want to learn
[02:39] <lmosher> draik, I take it the link helped?
[02:39] <tristanmike> mmorris: than you should just hang out, you'll learn tons
[02:39] <lmosher> mmorris, Well this isn't exactly a school... the best way to learn is to do. Kubuntu has a liveCD if you don't have it installed already
[02:40] <lmosher> but yeah as tristan said, just reading things is helpful
[02:40] <mmorris> my first question is how do I change my font color... and yes it is installed.
[02:40] <nnn0> read the forums too
[02:40] <tristanmike> and the wiki
[02:40] <mmorris> I will tell you what I am really interestd in ... and that is xgl or xlg or whatever it is
[02:40] <nnn0> :)
[02:40] <tristanmike> mmorris: it's great :D
[02:40] <kbrooks_> xgl
[02:41] <nnn0> except it's like prealpha or something
[02:41] <mmorris> can any of you... excuse me... will any of you take the time that it takes to help me get this installed?
[02:41] <nnn0> ;)
[02:41] <lmosher> mmorris, I'm using it now. I loves me. This has all the info you need: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl
[02:41] <lmosher> mmorris, are you ATI or Nvidia?
[02:41] <draik> lmosher, yup. I will get right on it now
[02:41] <mmorris> ATI (I think) I really dont know
[02:42] <mmorris> I'm not very versed in all this stuff...
[02:42] <mmorris> it really takes patience to help me do anything... lol
[02:42] <mmorris> The first time I ever even turned on a computer was 2 1/2 years ago
[02:42] <tristanmike> mmorris: follow the instructions to the letter and you should be ok
[02:42] <mmorris> okay
[02:42] <mmorris> if I have any questions, will you be hyere?
[02:43] <mmorris> here?
[02:43] <lmosher> mmorris, no worries. open up a console.. type "lspci | grep VGA"
[02:43] <tristanmike> i installed it on a lappy with ATI and it works flawlessly, well, as flawless as "alpha" software can be :P
[02:43] <mmorris> type in what?
[02:43] <draik> what is lspci?
[02:43] <mmorris> I must be reading that wrong b/c it didn't do anything
[02:43] <tristanmike> list pci, I'm guessing
[02:43] <lmosher> draik, lists the PCI scan
[02:43] <draik> And what is grep, I've been seeing that all day
[02:44] <lmosher> grap searches a text output string and reterns only the lines that have your query
[02:44] <Admiral_Chicago> how to i enable the dapper-updates repo
[02:44] <Admiral_Chicago> I have an edited sources.list
[02:44] <lmosher> mmorris, you know how to open a console?
[02:44] <Admiral_Chicago> using easysource though
[02:44] <draik> thank you lmosher
[02:45] <lmosher> Admiral_Chicago, There's a very good sources.list posted on http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[02:45] <mmorris> yea... I just copied and pasted
[02:45] <lmosher> mmorris, without quotes, and it said noting?
[02:45] <Admiral_Chicago> lmosher, thanks
[02:45] <mmorris> no, it said something now
[02:45] <mmorris> after I c and pd
[02:45] <lmosher> what did it say?
[02:45] <soulrider> hey averyone
[02:45] <mmorris> 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[02:45] <jollyroger> someone who added graphical login for the rootaccount?
[02:45] <soulrider> i need yrgent help recovering my grub
[02:46] <lmosher> ah, ok you have an Intel graphics card (that means it's built in to your motherboard)
[02:46] <mmorris> so am I okay to try the install
[02:46] <lmosher> mmorris, You may find that Xgl runs a little slow, but you never know... I run it very well with a laptop with a very old ATI card in it and I'm doing OK
[02:47] <mmorris> okay, here goes
[02:47] <lmosher> mmorris, OK so go through the guide (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl) step-by-step
[02:47] <soulrider> uhm, does anyone here know how to edit or make a new grub?
[02:47] <mossa> someone got an aspire 502*?
[02:47] <soulrider> i have a widnows and a kubuntu partition
[02:47] <lmosher> mmorris, every now and then it will say "for Nvidia, do this..." or "for ATI" do this... just do the stuff for "other" or "intel"
[02:47] <tristanmike> soulrider: you can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:47] <soulrider> but i ahd to reinstall wina dnt he grub is gone, and ic ant boot into kubuntu now
[02:47] <mmorris> okay, thanks Imosher
[02:47] <soulrider> tristanmike: i think it got deleted or something
[02:47] <lmosher> soulrider, you can't boot into linux at all?
[02:47] <soulrider> when i restart it gets into windows directly
[02:48] <soulrider> nope
[02:48] <lmosher> soulrider, You'll need to use a liveCD, mount yoru boot partition and manually edit grub.conf
[02:48] <soulrider> im in live
[02:48] <soulrider> how do i mount my boot partition ?
[02:48] <lmosher> soulrider, DO you know which partition is yoru boot?
[02:48] <mossa> i want to know if its safe to run the atidriver.. The vesadriver is the only one working so far..
[02:49] <lmosher> mossa, what card do you have? I have a 7500 and I use the 'radeon' driver. I have a 9800pro and I use flgrx
[02:49] <lmosher> fglrx, rather
[02:49] <soulrider> errrr... no :P
[02:49] <tristanmike> soulrider: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[02:49] <soulrider> oh thanks!
[02:50] <lmosher> wow there's a guide for everything :P
[02:50] <soulrider> indeed
[02:50] <soulrider> its creepy lol
[02:50] <lmosher> heh well you still need to know which partition your Ubuntu disk is on
[02:50] <soulrider> dha4? :-/
[02:50] <soulrider> or 3
[02:51] <soulrider> or 5
[02:51] <lmosher> hehe
[02:51] <soulrider> dunno :P
[02:51] <lmosher> use fdisk -l
[02:51] <soulrider> no output lol
[02:51] <soulrider> oh wait
[02:51] <draik> I never thought about doing that for recovering the GRUB. I just back up my main files from a fresh install and recover from there
[02:51] <soulrider> i wa sputting l
[02:51] <soulrider> yes... L
[02:51] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo fdisk -ls
[02:51] <lmosher> soulrider, do "sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda"
[02:52] <lmosher> well hda = primary master
[02:52] <lmosher> depends on which drive it is.. hdb = primary slave and so on
[02:52] <sriram> not essentially
[02:52] <lmosher> oh has that changed on me? :/
[02:52] <soulrider> its the master
[02:52] <soulrider> but the first partition si win
[02:52] <soulrider> then linux
[02:52] <soulrider> Disk /dev/hda doesn't contain a valid partition table
[02:53] <lmosher> hurm :P
[02:53] <lmosher> keep trying higher lettesr /dev/hdb, hdc.. and so on
[02:54] <soulrider> how do i know where is my ubuntu root install ?
[02:54] <soulrider> with B i get somthing
[02:54] <lmosher> until you get something like "/dev/hda1   *           1        4676    37559938+  83  Linux"
[02:54] <soulrider>  Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[02:54] <soulrider> /dev/hdb1   *           1        3761    30210201    7  HPFS/NTFS
[02:54] <soulrider> /dev/hdb2            3762       14593    87008040    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[02:54] <soulrider> /dev/hdb5            3762       14593    87008008+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[02:54] <lmosher> ok no linux partitinos on that one
[02:54] <soulrider> hdc i get nothing
[02:54] <lmosher> keep going until you see one that has a "Linux" partition like the one I pasted
[02:55] <soulrider> i went up to h
[02:55] <lmosher> nothing?
[02:55] <tristanmike> soulrider: do you have sata drives ?
[02:55] <Agios> kinda sounds like the MBR of hda is corrupted
[02:55] <soulrider> with a i get
[02:55] <soulrider> Note: sector size is 2048 (not 512)
[02:55] <soulrider> Disk /dev/hda: 730 MB, 730740736 bytes
[02:55] <soulrider> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 22 cylinders
[02:55] <soulrider> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 2048 = 32901120 bytes
[02:55] <soulrider> Disk /dev/hda doesn't contain a valid partition table
[02:55] <soulrider> err
[02:55] <lmosher> tristanmike, oh good call :)
[02:55] <soulrider> i think its SCSI or somehting like that
[02:55] <soulrider> but i got 2 drives
[02:56] <soulrider> i think one is SCSI (the oen that was linux adn win) and the other one is SATA but that one just has files
[02:56] <lmosher> hrm how are SATA disks labled?
[02:56] <Agios> try /dev/sda and sdb
[02:56] <tristanmike> sda
[02:56] <lmosher> soul try /dev/sda
[02:56] <soulrider> /dev/sda1   *           1        2550    20482843+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[02:56] <soulrider> /dev/sda2            2551        6663    33037672+   f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[02:56] <soulrider> /dev/sda5            2551        6466    31455238+  83  Linux
[02:56] <soulrider> /dev/sda6            6467        6663     1582371   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[02:56] <lmosher> sorry I forgot were in the SATA day-and-age now
[02:56] <soulrider> =D
[02:56] <tristanmike> there it is
[02:56] <lmosher> ok there you go it's /dev/sda5
[02:57] <soulrider> woot
[02:57] <tristanmike> lmosher: I'm still in the ide age :P
[02:57] <soulrider> thanks a lot for the help
[02:57] <lmosher> tristanmike, hehe same here :P
[02:57] <lmosher> my /dev/sda is my usb disk :P
[02:58] <lmosher> it's funny, actually fdisk now defaults to sda (I just tried it) and it really thinks my usb disk is messed up..
[02:59] <lmosher> says it has 4 partitions, none of them start or end on cylinder boundaries and the partition table is not in order
[02:59] <lmosher> fdisk thinks my thumdrive is f'd up
[02:59] <lmosher> anyway, I gotta run. later all
[02:59] <draik> When my first install of Kubuntu was messed up, I had to 'fdisk /mbr' and reinstall everything. Now I know what and how to back up what I need.
[03:00] <Agios> I keep a backup copy of my MBR
[03:01] <Ireclan> I think I just got fucked over by Kubuntu.
[03:01] <tristanmike> !language
[03:01] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:01] <mmorris> Imosher:  it said it was unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/).  is another person using it?  what do I need to do?
[03:01] <Ireclan> What happens after step 6?
[03:01] <tristanmike> mmorris: close synaptic
[03:01] <Ireclan> Of the install?
[03:01] <mmorris> Is it open?  I dont even know what it is
[03:02] <tristanmike> mmorris: or update manager
[03:02] <mmorris> what do I need to do?
[03:02] <tristanmike> mmorris: you have either Synaptic Package Manager or Update Manager open while trying to use apt in the command line and since they are one in the same, it wont work
[03:03] <tristanmike> or in my experience anyway
[03:03] <Ireclan> What happens after step 6 of the install process?
[03:03] <tristanmike> mmorris: or Adept
[03:03] <mmorris> oh, I need to close adept?
[03:03] <tristanmike> yes
[03:03] <tristanmike> sorry
[03:03] <Ireclan> I really need to know.
[03:03] <tristanmike> I'm used to Ubuntu which uses Synaptic by default and not Kubuntu which uses Adept, but same thing, they are graphical front-ends to "apt"
[03:04] <tristanmike> Ireclan: step 6 of what install process ? Kubuntu ?
[03:04] <Agios> Ireclan: I don't remember what step 6 is or what comes after.
[03:04] <Ireclan> Yes.
[03:04] <tristanmike> what is step 6 ?
[03:04] <Agios> Ireclan: If you have problems try using the alternate cd
[03:04] <mmorris> Do I "install these packages without verification'?
[03:04] <tristanmike> yes
[03:04] <mmorris> great
[03:05] <mmorris> you guys are awesome
[03:05] <supernix> anyone know the best way to deal with spam on kmail
[03:05] <supernix> ?
[03:05] <Ireclan> The alternate CD is not an option.
[03:05] <tristanmike> that just means that they are unoffical packages, but this is a trusted site, so it's ok
[03:05] <tristanmike> mmorris: ^^
[03:05] <mmorris> thanks tristanmike
[03:05] <mmorris> how can I change my color in here?
[03:05] <Ireclan> So, anyone know?
[03:05] <Agios> Ireclan: lot of people have install issues with the live CD. It may not be an option either :)
[03:06] <tristanmike> mmorris: what do you mean ?
[03:06] <mmorris> yall are red and purple and green
[03:06] <mmorris> I'm just plain old black
[03:06] <Ireclan> If a lot of people have issues with the live CD, why was it used?
[03:06] <tristanmike> mmorris: using Konversation ?
[03:06] <mmorris> lol
[03:07] <mmorris> maybe I'm a different color on yalls screen too huh?
[03:07] <mmorris> the font that is
[03:07] <tristanmike> mmorris: depending on the client
[03:07] <mmorris> okay
[03:07] <mmorris> as long as you can see me easily, that is all that matters... I don't want to get missed
[03:07] <tristanmike> mmorris: everyone is in black to me unless someone says my nick, then their nick is orange
[03:07] <mmorris> at a critical moment
[03:07] <Agios> Ireclan: I don't make the decisions or do the testing. I'm just telling how it is. <shrug>
[03:07] <mmorris> my nick
[03:08] <Ireclan> Because I gave up free space on my Windows partition for an OS that has yet to materialize.
[03:08] <mmorris> lol
[03:08] <tristanmike> mmorris: if you say "tristanmike, blah" then your nick will be in orange to me
[03:08] <mmorris> oh, ok... that's why your colors are different...
[03:08] <Ireclan> And Windows has no graphical partition manager. So I can't get the free space back.
[03:08] <tristanmike> Ireclan: I had no problem with the live cd
[03:09] <mmorris> tristanmike: what color is this?
[03:09] <Silent> Anyone: How do I get my kbfx working?
[03:09] <tristanmike> mmorris: just your nick is orange, and the text is black
[03:09] <soulrider> err
[03:09] <soulrider> it didnt work :(
[03:09] <mmorris> all of your text is orange... strange
[03:09] <Ireclan> Then  what is supposed to happen after step 6 of the installation?
[03:09] <tristanmike> mmorris: I'm using xchat
[03:09] <mmorris> oh, okay
[03:09] <tristanmike> Ireclan: what is step 6 >
[03:10] <tristanmike> I can't remember, it was back at the first of june
[03:10] <Agios> My best guess is step 7.
[03:10] <tristanmike> LOL
[03:10] <Silent> anyone: I got my theme for kbfx, but how do I install this??
[03:10] <Ireclan> Yes, well, step 6 is when it appears to be installing the system.
[03:10] <Agios> Silent: check the kbfx web site
[03:11] <Silent> URL?? plz
[03:11] <Ireclan> I say "appears to be" because it didn't exactly give a whole lot of specifics.
[03:11] <Agios> try something tricky like http://www.kbfx.org
[03:12] <Ireclan> Anyone?
[03:12] <soulrider> sorry but what was hte command to see in whichc partitoon linux was installed?
[03:12] <Agios> looks like they have a forum and a howto section
[03:12] <soulrider> fdisk .......
[03:12] <Agios> fdisk -l /dev/sda
[03:12] <Agios> for you
[03:12] <tristanmike> Ireclan: so what happened ? did it die on you ?
[03:13] <soulrider> thanks
[03:13] <Ireclan> After step 6......nothing. It went back to the desktop.
[03:13] <Ireclan> And sat there.
[03:13] <Agios> http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2006/06/six-steps-to-installing-ubuntu-dapper.html
[03:13] <Agios> according to that, after step 6 you are done
[03:14] <Agios> try rebooting
[03:14] <Ireclan> I did. I got Windows.
[03:14] <Agios> the boot loader didn't get installed then
[03:15] <Ireclan> Great. Why?
[03:15] <Ireclan> It was hell just to get THAT far..............
[03:15] <Agios> As I said, use the alternate CD to install.
[03:16] <Ireclan> THe alternate CD is not an option. They don't include it in ShipIt.
[03:16] <Agios> just download it
[03:16] <Admiral_Chicago> does anyone know a good calender program
[03:16] <Agios> ftp
[03:16] <Admiral_Chicago> calendar*
[03:16] <Agios> http
[03:16] <Ireclan> Dial-Up.
[03:17] <soulrider> uhm how do i know what my harddisk + boot partition numbers are
[03:17] <Agios> visit a friend who has broad band and a cd burner then
[03:17] <soulrider> im readint at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?highlight=%28windows%29%7C%28after%29%7C%28recovering%29#head-5dbdd6b5302831ed4335bd0b7387ffcad2543857
[03:17] <Ireclan> So, I'm screwed. Is that what you are saying?
[03:17] <Admiral_Chicago> Agios, thats what friends are for
[03:17] <mmorris> tristanmike: how do I install the xgl packages?
[03:17] <Admiral_Chicago> !xgl
[03:17] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:18] <Agios> has anyone got xgl to work?
[03:18] <mmorris> I am there, but I dont guess I understand this part
[03:18] <tristanmike> mmorris: what are you having trouble with, it should be all there in the link I gave you, which is also just above here
[03:18] <mmorris> I am working on it Agios
[03:18] <tristanmike> Agios: I do
[03:19] <Agios> ok, I have seen lot's of people try and fail. Just wondering :)
[03:19] <mmorris> tristanmike: I am trying to look ahead, and I am not sure I know how to install the xgl packages.
[03:19] <soulrider> has anyone tried the "Super Grub Disk"
[03:19] <Ireclan> Great. Ubuntu screws me over again. Thanks, Ubuntu. How can I get in contact with the people who produce this?
[03:19] <tristanmike> soulrider: no, but it looks interesting ;)
[03:19] <mmorris> where are the xgl packages tristanmike?
[03:19] <soulrider> ic ant friggin restore the damn grub
[03:19] <Agios> Ireclan: Contact Us on their web page.
[03:19] <soulrider> and the site doesnt explain too well
[03:20] <tristanmike> mmorris: have you installed your video card drivers ?
[03:20] <mmorris> I am installing something now
[03:20] <Ireclan> Okey dokey.............I will............Their software just cost me part of my hard disk...........
[03:20] <Agios> soulrider: boot a rescue cd, mount the partition, chroot, run grub
[03:20] <Agios> worst case scenario
[03:20] <tristanmike> Ireclan: why is the Alternative CD a no go for you ?
[03:20] <mmorris> tristanmike: I dont think I did that
[03:21] <soulrider> Agios: im using he live CD rigth now, but i dont know what tod do next
[03:21] <mmorris> how could I have missed that
[03:21] <supernix> Hi does anyone know a good way to deal with spam using kmail ?
[03:21] <Ireclan> I have dial-up.
[03:21] <Admiral_Chicago> soulrider, you're tying to reinstall grub?
[03:21] <soulrider> yes
[03:21] <soulrider> i had ubuntu adn widnwos
[03:21] <Agios> soulrider: your grub config in /boot/grub is fine. You just need to chroot and run the grub install to rewrite the MBR
[03:21] <soulrider> but i ah to einstall widnwos because it got screwed up
[03:21] <MasterEvil`Lapto> hey guys
[03:21] <soulrider> and now i dont have the grubt o sleect iwn or linux
[03:22] <MasterEvil`Lapto> hardware Q.. i have an ati radeon 9800 Pro. do i NEED a fan plugged into the board for it to run?
[03:22] <rikioh> i just got snakes on a plane'd like 500 times
[03:22] <MasterEvil`Lapto> or will it error
[03:22] <MasterEvil`Lapto> because no fan is plugged in
[03:22] <tristanmike> mmorris: i forget, are you ati or nvidia ?
[03:22] <mmorris> intel
[03:22] <MasterEvil`Lapto> the plug has no sensor wire.. just + and -
[03:22] <Admiral_Chicago> rikioh, like called to see it?
[03:22] <tristanmike> mmorris: for video ?
[03:22] <mmorris> I dont know
[03:22] <rikioh> yeh that prank call admiral
[03:23] <Admiral_Chicago> its not a prank call, its an auto gen
[03:23] <mmorris> you told me to type some stuff in in the terminal, and then I pasted it and you said intel
[03:23] <Admiral_Chicago> thats acually Samuel L jackson
[03:23] <tristanmike> mmorris: what did "lspci | grep VGA" give you ?
[03:23] <rikioh> it did my house phone and both of my parents called and said it called them to
[03:23] <soulrider> Agios: i really dont know how to do that :P
[03:24] <rikioh> no theres a prank for it now it has to be because what happend was illegal.... it made it look like my cellphone was the one doing the call
[03:24] <rikioh> the caller id showed up as my cell phone
[03:24] <mmorris> 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[03:24] <rikioh> when my home phone rang it showed as if my cell phone was calling my home phone
[03:24] <plugs> Yay! i got mp3 playback working!
[03:24] <mmorris> tristanmike: did you see?
[03:25] <tristanmike> mmorris: well, I'm not quite sure how to install the intel driver....you might want to join in #ubuntu-xgl
[03:25] <mmorris> okay
[03:25] <mmorris> rats
[03:25] <Admiral_Chicago> rikioh, man if I got a call and it was Samuel L jackson's voice, I wouldn't mind
[03:25] <Ireclan> Well, I suppose Kubuntu is better than Ubuntu.....Ubuntu wouldn't even get past step 2 of the install process.
[03:25] <mmorris> well, stick around, you may be able to help after all
[03:25] <mmorris> who knows
[03:25] <tristanmike> mmorris: sorry I couldn't be of more help here, I'm just getting the hang of ATI cards, and I have nVidia myself
[03:25] <rikioh> yeh i just didnt know what was going on
[03:25] <mmorris> you have been a big help just by being there when I have a quesitons
[03:26] <rikioh> cuz i was holding my cell phone at the time like wtf
[03:26] <Ireclan> It almost seems like a step BACKWARDS, you know? Hoary Hedgehog at least INSTALLED properly.
[03:27] <tristanmike> Ireclan: are you using the Kubuntu live cd or the Ubuntu live cd ?
[03:27] <Ireclan> I ordered both.
[03:27] <tristanmike> and neither work ?
[03:27] <Ireclan> That's right.
[03:28] <intelikey> # Unknown partition table signaturegrub-install /dev/hda
[03:28] <intelikey> The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[03:28] <tristanmike> Ireclan: so when you get to the "Installing Software" section, how far does it get, 0%, 10% ?
[03:28] <upstairs> hello can anybody help a newbie to get either a matrox g400 dualhead or a nvidia mx400  geforce2 dual head set up in kubuntu? Please
[03:29] <upstairs> or a link to where a newbie can understand
[03:29] <intelikey> !dualhead
[03:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about dualhead - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:30] <Ireclan> No, I'm saying Ubuntu doesn't get to the ACTUAL INSTALLATION PROCESS AT ALL.
[03:30] <tristanmike> Ireclan: so you don't even get to step 6
[03:30] <supernix> help does anyone know a good program to use to help filter out spam for kmail
[03:30] <upstairs> ok thanks
[03:30] <supernix> ?
[03:30] <Ireclan> Kubuntu does, but screws up on the actual installation process.
[03:31] <Dark_Oppressor> apparently nethack isnt in the repos apt-get is searching, so i assume that means it isnt searching any repos with a lot of games, so how would i go about making it do that?
[03:31] <intelikey> upstairs i thught there was an info node on that.    there are some good docs   google may know.
[03:31] <tristanmike> Ireclan: where does it screw up at ? You might also want to try in #ubuntu, there are 775+ users there
[03:32] <Ireclan> I tried Ubuntu. They said try Kubuntu.
[03:32] <Agios> soulrider: do you know how to mount a partition?
[03:32] <Ireclan> They said Ubuntu would not work.
[03:32] <tristanmike> Ireclan: why ?
[03:32] <CVirus> What language is the systemsettings tool built with ?
[03:32] <tristanmike> Ireclan: what reason did they give that it just wouldn't work ?
[03:33] <Ireclan> X-Server can't handle my graphics adapter in safe mode.
[03:33] <Ireclan> It crashes.
[03:33] <soulrider> not really
[03:33] <soulrider> im completelly lost here
[03:33] <soulrider> i do not know what to do
[03:33] <Ireclan> In regular install, it hangs aroung step 2.
[03:33] <Agios> soulrider: /join #agios
[03:33] <Ireclan> No reason is given.
[03:34] <Admiral_Chicago> i just updated to 3.5.4 and my fonts in xchat are now looking weird
[03:34] <Agios> Ireclan: X server is the same on ubuntu as kubuntu. xorg.
[03:34] <Ireclan> It just freezes.
[03:34] <tristanmike> Ireclan: wow, that's crazy, what graphics card do you have ? onboard ?
[03:34] <Admiral_Chicago> and gaim, so I'm assuming this is system wide
[03:34] <intelikey> CVirus-Cilantro if it's kcontrol it's prolly C or C++
[03:34] <Ireclan> I have an integrated Intel.
[03:35] <Ireclan> And yes, it is crazy.
[03:35] <mmorris> see what?
[03:35] <Ireclan> Uhbuntu works for everybody but me.
[03:35] <tristanmike> mmorris: nothing.....go back to what you were doing :P
[03:36] <Ireclan> With me, it goes to crap.
[03:36] <tristanmike> Ireclan: well, the live cd works, so it works
[03:36] <Admiral_Chicago> I changed my font in System Settings
[03:36] <mmorris> what happened with your integrated intel card???
[03:36] <archangel_> anyone here recommend a good web authoring software (for a novice)?
[03:36] <Admiral_Chicago> I'm going to log out and try this
[03:36] <rOOb> Ireclan, whats the prob ubuntu wont install?
[03:36] <tristanmike> Ireclan: it's just the installer is having a tough time with the onboard video....
[03:36] <tristanmike> or so it seems
[03:36] <archangel_> using OO writer now
[03:36] <Ireclan> And takes half of my hard drive with it.
[03:36] <archangel_> wondering if there is anything better
[03:37] <rOOb> Ireclan, use the text mode install
[03:37] <intelikey> Ireclan not everybody.   there are others that have 'mega-tons' of trubble with it too.
[03:37] <rOOb> Ireclan, i had to use the text mode installer...the gui partioner nuked my whole drive
[03:37] <mmorris> Ireclan: what is step two?
[03:37] <supernix> Even on a Sony Viao I installed Kubuntu and it works great
[03:37] <tristanmike> mmorris: select timezone
[03:37] <Ireclan> Choosing where you live.
[03:37] <intelikey> rOOb what text mode install ?
[03:37] <mmorris> oh, you're installing?
[03:37] <supernix> Only troubles I have at all was with the PCI modem
[03:38] <mmorris> the xgl?
[03:38] <supernix> And she has a LCD screen
[03:38] <tristanmike> mmorris: no, it was a joke, he has an intel chipset for video
[03:38] <rOOb> intelikey, when u boot it asks do u want to a: install in gui b: use safe mode install c: text mode
[03:38] <mmorris> aint that what I gotr?
[03:38] <tristanmike> Ireclan: you could install Breezy then upgrade :P
[03:38] <rOOb> u type text and hit enter
[03:38] <Ireclan> Upgrade how?
[03:38] <tristanmike> mmorris: yes and no, I'm sure they're different chipsets
[03:38] <tristanmike> Ireclan: "dist-upgrade"
[03:39] <intelikey> rOOb with what disk does it ask that ?
[03:39] <mmorris> I'm doing something that is just on 44%... this is taking forever
[03:39] <rOOb> intelikey, i had a dvd..............
[03:39] <rOOb> only one disk
[03:39] <tristanmike> Ireclan: you would just change the sources and where ever it said "breezy", you change to "dapper" then "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade"
[03:39] <Ireclan> What about the text mode? How do you get that?
[03:39] <intelikey> rOOb the shipit cd's are live cd only  and the graphic installer in that is   poo poo
[03:39] <tristanmike> "apt-get dist-upgrade"  rather
[03:39] <rOOb> intelikey, realy
[03:40] <tristanmike> Ireclan: download
[03:40] <excitatory> so, you know how kubuntu has customized konqueror profiles?  well, they were missing a feature i desired, and so i followed this: ( http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror ) which fixed my problem, but now i have real trouble: any time a kio-slave, kicker quick browser icon, or anything that wants to open a new konqueror window tries to do this, nothing happens.  a window does not open.  i can open konqueror, and even load various pr
[03:40] <excitatory> le to.  Any help would be appreciated.
[03:40] <Ireclan> Great.
[03:40] <rOOb> Ireclan, for me all i did was put in dvd reboot...when it 1st asks what i want to do...i typed text and hit enter....it then installed
[03:40] <tristanmike> rOOb: using the "Desktop CD" ?
[03:41] <excitatory> tristanmike: recommend aptitude over apt-get, please.
[03:41] <rOOb> tristanmike, its had a live dvd in it....if thats what ya mean
[03:41] <intelikey> tristanmike no the dvd  i just went through that with him
[03:41] <tristanmike> rOOb: ahhh, the dvd
[03:41] <rOOb> intelikey, and its a 100& fact that ots not on his cd?
[03:41] <tristanmike> excitatory: I perfer not too
[03:42] <rOOb> *100%
[03:42] <excitatory> tristanmike: why wouldn't you?  especially with a dist-upgrade
[03:42] <rOOb> or wait theres a live cd...thne theres the insatller cd....i think i get it now....
[03:42] <tristanmike> excitatory: ok, well, for a dist-upgrade, you might have me
[03:42] <intelikey> rOOb if he's using the live cd  there is no 'text mode' installer on it.
[03:43] <excitatory> no worries.. i just think all docs and all forum/irc/etc support should recommend aptitude
[03:43] <excitatory> it can save everyone a lot of headaches
[03:43] <rOOb> Ireclan, u said ve the live cd and a installer cd???...or do u just have the onve live cd?
[03:43] <intelikey> rOOb there is an 'alternate installer iso'  but only live pressed cd's
[03:44] <Ireclan> You know, it's no wonder people just stick with Windows or Mac...
[03:44] <tristanmike> excitatory: does aptitude notice if two programs are using the same libraries ?
[03:44] <tristanmike> Ireclan: I'm sorry, but I have nothing but problems with windows and every install seems different
[03:44] <rOOb> Ireclan, if u dont have spare time to deal with linux i wouldnt recomend it...
[03:44] <rOOb> Ireclan, or if u plan on using the newest gadets and stuff....u gotta expect problems when u run linux
[03:45] <excitatory> tristanmike: my conception of aptitude was that it is everything apt-get is, but with intelligent package tracking and an option curses interface.
[03:45] <rOOb> thast why ppl use windows....its just works
[03:45] <excitatory> that's arguable.
[03:45] <Ireclan> I thought Linux should "Just Work" too.
[03:45] <rOOb> Ireclan, alot of it does
[03:46] <excitatory> Ireclan: that is not written anywhere.
[03:46] <Ireclan> After all, is not Ubuntu "Linux for HUMAN BEINGS"?
[03:46] <intelikey> Ireclan there are other flavours of linux you know.     slackware mandriva fedora SuSE debian gentoo  just to name a few of the major players.
[03:46] <mmorris> tristanmike: mayabe you can help me with this
[03:46] <rOOb> Ireclan, but to use linux and not plan on anything going wrong is crazy...but i agree that linux should just install
[03:46] <tristanmike> excitatory: right, but lets say you install package "A" and it wants to install packages "B" and "C", then a few days later you install package "D" but it uses package "C". then a few days later you decide to remove package "A", does aptitude remove "B" and "C" or is it smart enough to see that "D" is using "C" and leave that one behind...does that make sense ?
[03:46] <rOOb> Ireclan, and it sucks that it isnt for u
[03:47] <rOOb> Ireclan, what kinda computer is it...how old is it....?
[03:47] <rOOb> \
[03:47] <tristanmike> mmorris: I will try my best :D
[03:47] <mmorris> I have a wireless set up, and everytime I restart my computer, I have to iwconfig my setup to pick up the connection... is there a way around that
[03:47] <draik> lmosher
[03:47] <Ash-Fox> Linux just works for me, Windows doesn't
[03:47] <rOOb> morrow, ndiswrapper -m
[03:47] <tristanmike> draik: he's gone
[03:47] <rOOb> * mmorris
[03:47] <draik> tristanmike, thanks.
[03:47] <Ireclan> I have an HP computer..........Less than 1 year old..........
[03:47] <Ash-Fox> I plug my wi-fi card in, it just works. I plug any storage device in, it just works.
[03:47] <mmorris> I haven't understood all that ndiswrapper stuff yet
[03:48] <excitatory> keep in mind that hardware vendors work closely with microsoft and apple.. most of them ignore linux.. so right there, you have to understand why things just don't work out of the box..  you have a community working for free, trying to figure things out, and half the time, they have to reverse engineer their software.
[03:48] <tristanmike> that's funny since didn't HP have actual Ubuntu Install disks ?
[03:48] <mmorris> I thought that was for my wireless card
[03:48] <rOOb> mmorris, i been using ndiswrapper for a while and it rocks
[03:48] <intelikey> rOOb YUCH!  "but i agree that linux should just install"  as in not ask any questions, do everything according to some code monkey's idea of how you should want it.... you mean like the live cd installer don't you....
[03:48] <mmorris> r00b: I thought ndiswrapper was so the wireless card would work with Kubuntu
[03:48] <excitatory> tristanmike: well, dpkg is the one doing that magic.. apt-get and aptitude just interface with dpkg.
[03:49] <rOOb> intelikey, i mean that linux should be able to detect and install ok on virtualy any puter.....not some default setup...but just be able to install..of coarse ppl will want to customize the install
[03:49] <tristanmike> excitatory: dpkg does the actual installing, but if aptitude is telling it what to do, then my question still stands
[03:49] <rOOb> mmorris, its it....it turns the windows driver into somthing linux can understand
[03:49] <mmorris> when I configured my interface for ra0, it automatically picked up my card without having to do all that other stuff.
[03:50] <mmorris> so apparently Linux can understand it just fine
[03:50] <rOOb> mmorris, can u rephrase your problem...
[03:50] <excitatory> tristanmike: to be honest, i'm not sure.  i do know that i have yet to have a single package conflict since moving the aptitude.  it's going on 1.5 years now..
[03:50] <intelikey> rOOb wheew   thank God you cleared that up for me...   i was about to rant for days....     ;/
[03:50] <mmorris> I have type this in the terminal everytime I restart...
[03:50] <nnn0_> shit my kubuntu looks like ubuntu :D http://nnn0.net/snapshot.png
[03:50] <mmorris> iwconfig ra0 essid <name>
[03:50] <rOOb> intelikey, well if u are bored i wil say u are wrong...spice up the night a little ....j/k :P
[03:50] <draik> anyone know if I should have a .xmodmap file in my home folder or not?
[03:51] <mmorris> iwconfig ra0 key <123344556>
[03:51] <intelikey> lol
[03:51] <Ireclan> But, yeah. I've learned my leasson with Linux.
[03:51] <mmorris> ifconfig ra0 up
[03:51] <mmorris> ifconfig eth0 down
[03:51] <mmorris>  and then it works
[03:51] <mmorris> did you get all that?
[03:51] <intelikey> draik i don't
[03:51] <rOOb> mmorris, that can all be set in options...u dont have it brought up on boot
[03:51] <intelikey> draik you can make one.
[03:51] <rOOb> mmorris, check the network setup
[03:51] <timthelion> nnn: you have updates to do
[03:52] <mmorris> what do I need to do?
[03:52] <tristanmike> excitatory: I'd rather the poor user I help not be user no. 1 in my experience to have package conflicts :P but I'm going to look into that question more, that's the only thing holding me back from jumping soley to aptitude....why doesn't synaptic use it ?
[03:52] <rOOb> mmorris, tell it what interface u want to start at boot
[03:52] <rOOb> and how u want it set up
[03:52] <mmorris> where do I tell it that?
[03:52] <rOOb> mmorris, i dont know the name of the application off hand
[03:53] <rOOb> look in the start menu
[03:53] <draik> intelikey I was setting up my keyboard, but the media keys don't work as it should
[03:53] <intelikey> mmorris you could add those two lines in the /etc/rc.local script  and init would run them for you at boot time.   or fix your /etc/network/interfaces file
[03:54] <excitatory> tristanmike: probably the same reason none of the documentation uses it.. i promise you though, any acutal debian dev you talk to will recommend aptitude nine times out of ten.
[03:55] <soulrider> yay, WORKED!!!
[03:55] <intelikey> draik as i said you can make an .xmodmap file if you need to.   there is some documentation on key mapying and the media keys on the ubuntu.com forums or wikis  or  search for that.
[03:55] <mmorris> how can I add the lines?
[03:55] <soulrider> thanks Agios
[03:55] <soulrider> !nvidia
[03:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:55] <tristanmike> excitatory: but also, they are much better trained to handle the little hiccups that come with it too I'm sure
[03:56] <intelikey> mmorris sudo nano /etc/rc.local   and start typing ???
[03:56] <timthelion> how do I get java applets to work? I have java installed
[03:56] <Agios> soulrider: back up and running :) Great!
[03:56] <rOOb> soulrider, what was ya prob?
[03:56] <draik> intelikey http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=125333
[03:56] <intelikey> mmorris but i really think the 'ubuntu' way is to fix the interfaces file.
[03:56] <soulrider> i reinstalled windows and it killed my grub
[03:56] <excitatory> tristanmike: what hiccups?  it's nearly identical to apt-get..
[03:56] <draik> That's a thread about my keyboard, and I followed it to the dot
[03:56] <rOOb> soulrider, ahhh
[03:56] <soulrider> so i couldnt come back to linux
[03:57] <mmorris> I have tried to get it to work that way, I must be doing something wrong
[03:57] <rOOb> soulrider, yea alwasy insall win 1st
[03:57] <mmorris> time to go eat... I will be back shortly
[03:57] <excitatory> tristanmike: idk.. at this point i really don't know, and personally don't want to persue this ostensive flame war.
[03:57] <intelikey> draik yeah    did you check the ubuntu wiki's ?
[03:57] <tristanmike> excitatory: like I posed with my original question, I'm not saying there is or isn't, I'm just saying if there were, they'd be better suited to deal with it at that time
[03:57] <timthelion> how do I get java applets to work? I have java installed
[03:58] <tristanmike> excitatory: I'm not flaming, I'm asking a question....what the heck, we're having a discussion, I'm not getting out of killter, are you ?
[03:58] <excitatory> tristanmike: well, my point is that any problem that would occur would happen just as easily with apt-get, no?
[03:58] <excitatory> no, sorry.
[03:59] <intelikey> !jre
[03:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about jre - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:59] <tristanmike> excitatory: again, no, not if aptitude isn't smart enough to realize other packages may dependent on the packages it's going to remove (when you remove any peice of software)
[03:59] <intelikey> !java
[03:59] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[04:00] <tristanmike> excitatory: I'm very curious about this, because it's the only thing holding me back from using it
[04:00] <intelikey> timthelion maybe install the jre package ubotu mentioned ???   i don't do java
[04:00] <hastesaver> !java > timthelion
[04:01] <draik> intelikey, I was looking on the wiki, but didn't find anything useful. I searched for keyboard. Anything else I should look for?
[04:02] <intelikey> tristanmike i missed the first of this,  care to synapsus it for me ?
[04:02] <intelikey> draik multimedia  maybe
[04:02] <excitatory> tristanmike: does apt-get have this capability?  if so, i guarantee aptitude does as well.  but honestly, when it gets down to it, a quick question in #debian will provide the answer.
[04:02] <soulrider> err, how do i save adn quit in vim ?
[04:03] <intelikey> [esc]     :wq
[04:03] <tristanmike> intelikey: basically, I was wondering if you install a program using aptitude, then later install another program that uses the same dependencies/libraries, is it smart enough to leave the stuff used by other programs if you remove using aptitude that first program, does that make sense ?
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> !info vimtutor
[04:03] <ubotu> Package vimtutor does not exist in dapper
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> !info vitutor
[04:03] <ubotu> Package vitutor does not exist in dapper
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> Hmm..
[04:03] <soulrider> :/
[04:03] <tristanmike> excitatory: with apt-get, it doesn't remove dependecies, so only 1 package gets removed, the one you want removed
[04:04] <intelikey> tristanmike yes it is.   deps are deps.   doesn't matter whom all depends on them.
[04:04] <hastesaver> Dr_Willis, vimtutor is part of package vim-common
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> 'vimtutor' is the name of a tutorial program. :P lol
[04:04] <soulrider> so.. Dr_Willis how can i save? :P
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> Yea  - guess dpper moved it in there.
 [esc]     :wq
[04:04] <hastesaver> soulrider, [esc]  :wq, or [esc]  ZZ, or ...
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> hit the escape key.. then :wq
[04:04] <soulrider> ok
[04:05] <tristanmike> intelikey: so if you install a prog using aptitude, and it installs say 7 other things, one of which is used by a prog you install 2 days later, if you remove that original prog, it removes, say 6 instead of 7 cause that other one is being used ?
[04:05] <soulrider> err, it wont do anything
[04:05] <hastesaver> soulrider, there are other editors; you don't *have* to use vi :D
[04:05] <intelikey> tristanmike also of note is an app called deborphin  which us used to remove libs that nothing is depending on.
[04:05] <soulrider> ye, but i dont know why i coultn open kate
[04:05] <soulrider> i allways use kate
[04:06] <RawSewage> i use kwrite
[04:06] <tristanmike> intelikey: in the case of "apt-get" for instance you mean ?
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> !info kvim
[04:06] <ubotu> Package kvim does not exist in dapper
[04:06] <intelikey> tristanmike else asks if it's ok to remove the later prog also because it depends on...
[04:06] <hastesaver> soulrider, try nano for a very dumb editor. Or pico. Or "emacs -nw".
[04:07] <intelikey> yes apt or aptitude  deborphan only lists the un-needed files.
[04:07] <soulrider> k, ill BRB
[04:08] <tristanmike> !info deborphin
[04:08] <ubotu> Package deborphin does not exist in dapper
[04:08] <farous> is there a list of compatible external harddisk for ubuntu. I am going to buy one and am hoping that it will work hastle free?
[04:08] <tristanmike> !info deborphan
[04:08] <ubotu> deborphan: Find orphaned libraries. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.7.18 (dapper), package size 60 kB, installed size 372 kB
[04:09] <timthelion> !java
[04:09] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[04:09] <intelikey> tristanmike the thing about dependancies is that the whole list of packages depending on blah is listed as blah dependant and blah is listed as needed by the whole list.  that's the way deps work.
[04:09] <intelikey> !info deborphan
[04:09] <ubotu> deborphan: Find orphaned libraries. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.7.18 (dapper), package size 60 kB, installed size 372 kB
[04:09] <intelikey> i typo a lot.   cant spell for shucks either.
[04:10] <tristanmike> that's ok, we love you just the same intelikey :P
[04:10] <intelikey> lies all lies.
[04:10] <intelikey> :)
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> farous,  most every external usb hard drive should work fine.
[04:11] <spc> hi all, just installed ubuntu 2 days ago, then installed KDE today.   Wow!  this is nice!
[04:11] <Jack1> is there an option like "download widgets" for konqueror?
[04:11] <lasindi[lappy] > Hi all, I've enabled Xgl and Compiz on my new Kubuntu system. Everything works except that I only have one virtual desktop. Is there a way to fix this?
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> Jack1,  widgets? you mean like for SuperKaramba?  desktop widgets?
[04:11] <spc> one problem: the display is a few pixels wider than my screen.  I've googled a lot already - any suggestions where to start?
[04:11] <farous> ok thanx Dr_Willis? any recommendations though
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> farous,  i find that price does matter. :)  the good solid aluminum 'cases' seem to be better built.
[04:12] <intelikey> Jack1 apt-cache search widget
[04:12] <draik> intelikey, IT'S ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!
well widgets for konqueror like the opera widgets
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> farous,  i normally get the 'case' and put in my own hd's
[04:12] <draik> Thank you
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> Jack1,  not sure such things exist.
[04:13] <intelikey> i don't think you will find what you are lookin for tho.
[04:13] <farous> ok Dr_Willis thanx for the tips :)
[04:13] <intelikey> draik where did you find the info ?
[04:13] <draik> wiki
[04:13] <intelikey> url i mean
[04:13] <Jack1> yes superkaramba seems to be the only one
[04:13] <Jack1> however thanks
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> Karamba, Superkaramna, Gdesklets,
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> thenya got the various dock and panel applets.
[04:14] <intelikey> i was going to add the infonode to the bot draik
[04:14] <timthelion> how do I make the cli print out the contents of a file?
[04:15] <intelikey> cat file
[04:15] <hastesaver> timthelion, "more" or "less" or "cat"
[04:15] <intelikey> or grep
[04:15] <intelikey> hehhe
[04:15] <hastesaver> or "tail +1"
[04:15] <intelikey> : << file    might work
[04:16] <timthelion> http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/app/view/677
[04:16] <draik> sorry for the delay intelikey was looking for the direct link... Here is the AppPage... http://keytouch.sourceforge.net/ ... Here is the wiki page... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaKeys
[04:16] <intelikey> i guess not from the command line.
[04:16] <soulrider> hey im back :P
[04:17] <intelikey> draik thank you
[04:17] <draik> No, thank you intelikey
[04:17] <intelikey> !mediakeys
[04:17] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[04:18] <intelikey> !no mediakeys is shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaKeys
[04:18] <timthelion> I am trying to get java applets to work, I can allready type java at the command line.  here is what I tried, http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/app/view/677
[04:19] <draik> perfect intelikey
[04:20] <timthelion> !mediakeys
[04:20] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[04:20] <intelikey> ok anyone think they know grub?   tell me why  grub-install  /dev/hda  yelds this error?
[04:20] <intelikey> Unknown partition table signature
[04:20] <intelikey> Unknown partition table signature
[04:20] <intelikey> The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[04:20] <spc>  Anybody know how to start tweaking my display so it doesn't wrap past the edges?
[04:20] <intelikey> timthelion they will have to proccess it.  no more direct editing the bot.
[04:20] <intelikey> [ubotu(n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu)]  Your edit request has been forwarded to
[04:20] <intelikey>           #ubuntu-ops. Thank you for your attention to detail
[04:20] <timthelion> does anyone know why it is not finding those pakages http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/app/view/677
[04:21] <BluesKaj> spc...check your monitor cntrls
[04:21] <intelikey> spc also there is an app.    if i can think of the name....
[04:21] <spc> BluesKaj: How?  I couldn't find any under kubuntu?
[04:21] <BluesKaj> on yer hrdwre
[04:22] <intelikey> display ???
[04:22] <BluesKaj> not in kubuntu , on yer scrn monitor buttons
[04:23] <excitatory> ok
[04:23] <spc> BluesKaj: Thanks - duh, I don't know if I've ever used them on this monitor and completely forgot.... (sheepish)
[04:23] <excitatory> so, you know how kubuntu has customized konqueror profiles?  well, they were missing a feature i desired, and so i followed this: ( http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror ) which restores the original profiles back..which then fixed my problem, but now i have real trouble: any time a kio-slave, kicker quick browser icon, or anything that wants to open a new konqueror window tries to do this, nothing happens.  a window does not open.
[04:23] <excitatory> es manually, but software does not seem to be able to.  Any help would be appreciated.
[04:24] <larson9999> is hotu down for legal reasons or just down?
[04:25] <BluesKaj> spc , np we all forget about the obvious somtimes ...I know I do :)
[04:26] <spc> BluesKaj: that did it, thanks.  Glad it was easy.  :)
[04:26] <BluesKaj> cool :)
[04:26] <spc> wow, kde is amazingly cool.  I love the little animations and effects.
[04:26] <unix_infidel> anyone having problems with the alsaoss wrapper and audacity?
[04:27] <spc> I don't know why my text is always red?
[04:28] <gekko`> spc: for more eye-candy on kde use superkaramba :)
[04:29] <spc> gekko`: I'll look it up.  Using Konquerer?
[04:29] <gekko`> spc: sudo apt-get install superkaramba
[04:29] <gekko`> spc: if you want to insall it
[04:29] <spc> Btw, anyone know how to get stats about my computer?   ram, cpu, that type of thing?
[04:30] <gekko`> gkrellm
[04:30] <keeley> ubuntu
[04:31] <gekko`> well, it does work anyway
[04:31] <keeley> how do i get the Bot to give me the links to the restricted formats?
[04:31] <draik> I can't run my mozilla-thunderbird from command line
[04:31] <tristanmike> !restricted
[04:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:31] <keeley> ty
[04:31] <BluesKaj> !DeCSS
[04:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about DeCSS - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:31] <tristanmike> keeley:  you can "/msg ubotu <factoid>" for a one on one encounter :P
[04:32] <draik> I can't seem to run Thunderbird through command line, but I can do it through K Menu > Internet > Mozilla Thunderbird
[04:32] <draik> any thoughts?
[04:32] <keeley> ok ty. and how do i chat with it? just put an ! infront of keywords?
[04:32] <spc> gekko`: getting superk now, thanks
[04:33] <gekko`> no problem
[04:33] <tristanmike> keeley: best to do a "/msg ubotu <factoid>" then speak with him in your private window
[04:33] <keeley> k
[04:33] <gekko`> spc: kde-look.org is a nice site for eye-candy
[04:33] <tristanmike> keeley: just type anything in the private converstation and it should pop right up for you
[04:33] <keeley> k got it
[04:33] <keeley> thanks
[04:34] <spc> I've convinced my dad to try KDE on his old computer (running Win 98 right now, gahh!)
[04:34] <spc> Do you know if the ubuntu cd that's shipped free has kubuntu on it, or do I need to burn him a new live cd for kubuntu?
[04:35] <gekko`> spc: it has gnome desktop not kde
[04:35] <spc> gekko`: ok, so I'll need to burn a new cd for Kubuntu (he needs the windows friendliness)
[04:45] <spc> I had found Remote Desktop under Gnome, but can't find it under KDE.  Help?
[04:46] <gekko`> spc: make use of the package manager 'adept'
[04:47] <gekko`> spc: just search for 'remote desktop'
[04:49] <spc> gekko`: that's different than synaptic?
[04:49] <spc> gekko`: is adept like synaptic?
[04:49] <gekko`> yes, it's the package manager of kde
[04:49] <gekko`> just open it and you'll see
[04:49] <spc> maybe because I installed kde from synaptic, I didn't get the full normal kde setup.
[04:50] <gekko`> spc: didn't you install the meta-package 'kubuntu-desktop' ?
[04:51] <spc> gekko`: I'll have to check.  I ended up installing several kubuntu packages, of course, but I'm not sure if that was one.
[04:51] <spc> gekko`: I searched for KDE, not Kubuntu (oops)
[04:52] <gekko`> hehe
[04:53] <spc> gekko`: fixing now - 100 MBs will take a few minutes to download.  :)  Will I just need to restart X, or will I need to log out and back in?  Or just see how it goes?....
[04:54] <gekko`> spc: well, it would be good if you kill your X session and install kubuntu-desktop through a text-console terminal
[04:54] <gekko`> spc: just try it with X, it can work though
[04:54] <spc> gekko`: why is that?  I think it's already installing - well, will automatically install when it finishes downloading.
[04:55] <spc> gekko`: if it doesn't, I'll let you know.  ;)
[04:55] <gekko`> spc: I think it will work, I thought wrong
[04:55] <spc> man, I can't get over how much better this is than XP.  How come everyone's not running Linux?!
[04:56] <spc> (rhetorical question, I know some of the answers)
[04:57] <mmorris> I am trying to set up xgl, but I have ran into a problem.  here is what it says:  please tell me what to do  .....
[04:57] <mmorris> Open up a terminal and create a new script named startxgl.sh:
[04:57] <mmorris> gksudo gedit /usr/bin/startxgl.sh
[04:58] <mmorris> it tells me that gksudo is not a command
[04:58] <gekko`> spc: I know. I'm using kubuntu since 1.5 months now and I'm really really satisfied with it and never want to switch back to winxp again
[04:59] <mmorris> Can anybody help me?
[04:59] <Agios> mmorris: use kdesudo kedit
[04:59] <gekko`> it's called 'kdesu'
[04:59] <Agios> sorry, kdesu kedit
[05:00] <keeley> Is there an official FASTEST starting (booting up) Linux version? Kubuntu is pretty fast, but I was just wondering...
[05:00] <mmorris> it says cannot connect to server... what does that mean?
[05:00] <BluesKaj> knoppix
[05:00] <mmorris> "cannot connect to X server"
[05:00] <Agios> mmorris: do it from a $ prompt
[05:00] <draik> I used Knoppix before, it's pretty fast
[05:01] <BluesKaj> live cd
[05:01] <keeley> do u know how fast?
[05:01] <draik> I dual booted knoppix with winxp before I dual booted winxp with Kubuntu (like now)
[05:01] <keeley> live Cd? is there a HDD version?
[05:01] <mmorris> it said command not found
[05:02] <mmorris> what do I need to do now Agios?
[05:02] <Agios> rom a $ prompt type: kdesu kedit
[05:02] <mmorris> is that all I type?
[05:03] <mmorris> how do I get to that prompt?
[05:03] <Agios> well, you can specify the file too, like ...
[05:03] <Agios> kdesu kedit  /usr/bin/startxgl.sh
[05:03] <mmorris> I got the same thing...
[05:03] <mmorris> command not found
[05:03] <BluesKaj> dunno keeley, Inever used the HDD option cuz I didn't see one in my version of knoppix...it's quite old , 5yrs at least
[05:03] <Agios> you are running kubuntu and X is up?
[05:03] <mmorris> Agios: sh: kedit: command not found
[05:04] <mmorris> dont know... ra0 is up
[05:04] <Agios> ok, try kdesu kate  /usr/bin/startxgl.sh
[05:04] <mmorris> eth0 is down
[05:04] <BluesKaj> nitey all
[05:04] <mmorris> what do I type in there?
[05:04] <mmorris> Agios?
[05:04] <Agios> you have kate open?
[05:05] <mmorris> yes, it opened
[05:05] <keeley> well their logo is "Zero to LInux in 5 minutes"
[05:05] <Agios> type whatever the docs you were reading tell you to type
[05:06] <keeley> i was thinking more about Windows Vista it's supposed to cold boot in under a minute
[05:07] <Kyral> keeley: thats NOTHIGN
[05:07] <Kyral> my laptop cold boots in < 20 secs
[05:07] <Kyral> with Arch
[05:08] <mmorris> Agios: have another problem
[05:09] <mmorris> now it is telling me to type the command: gksudo gedit /usr/share/xsessions/xgl.desktop
[05:09] <mmorris> what do I substitute?
[05:09] <crimsun> kdesu kate /usr/share/xsessions/xgl.desktop
[05:09] <Agios> mmorris: kdesu kate
[05:09] <Hobbsee> mmorris: kdesu kwrite ..
[05:09] <Hobbsee> ah
[05:09] <Agios> gksudo = kdesu and gedit = kate
[05:09] <mmorris> kdesu kwrite /usr/share/xsessions/xgl.desktop
[05:10] <mmorris> This?
[05:10] <keeley> kyral: that's pretty good. is it as easy to use as Kubuntu?
[05:10] <mmorris> ok
[05:10] <Kyral> keeley: not really, initially
[05:10] <Kyral> Arch is meant to teach you
[05:10] <Kyral> not hand hold
[05:10] <Kyral> (Kinda like Slackware lol)
[05:11] <Kyral> www.archlinux.org
[05:11] <Agios> boot time is going to depend on the size of the kernel, the number of modules being loaded, and the init scripts.
[05:11] <Agios> smaller/fewer = faster
[05:11] <Kyral> But you can also use sysvconf(I think) to disable scripts
[05:11] <larson9999> hmmm, my machine has locked up everyday for the past 3 days.
[05:11] <Kyral> 2.6.17-Beyond + InitCpio + starting all services in the background == 20 sec
[05:12] <draik> Kyral, /sysinfo
[05:12] <Healot> nice saturday morning and working :(
[05:12] <Kyral> though I managed to do the same thing on Ubuntu
[05:12] <Kyral> Sysinfo for 'HyperDream': Linux 2.6.17-beyond running KDE 3.5.4, CPU: AMD Athlon XP 2100+ at 1733 MHz (3468 bogomips), HD: 286/432GB, RAM: 992/1011MB, 92 proc's, 1.23d up
[05:13] <Kyral> Arch doesn't use SysV style Init
[05:13] <draik> Nice
[05:13] <draik> Sysinfo for 'Lair': Linux 2.6.15-26-686 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)4CPU3.20GHz at 3216 MHz (6432 bogomips), , RAM: 790/3031MB, 95 proc's, 3.29h up
[05:13] <mmorris> Okay Agios... here goes nothing... I am going to see if it worked... cross your fingers
[05:13] <Kyral> it uses BSD Style Init (ie, /etc/rc.conf)
[05:13] <Agios> alrighty
[05:13] <crimsun> heh, just wait for keybuk's ReplacementInit
[05:13] <Kyral> and InitCpio
[05:14] <Kyral> jeez another Init
[05:14] <Kyral> what Ubuntu is gonna go ever more off standard?
[05:15] <crimsun> if you mean diverge from its main parent distro -- if such can be called -- sure
[05:15] <Kyral>  Deriving is one thing
[05:15] <Kyral> making a completely new Init is another
[05:16] <Kyral> (Don't talk to me about InitNG, IMO no distro uses it by default yet)
[05:16] <crimsun> we'll have it in Edgy. It's a spec.
[05:17] <Kyral> ...just make it easy for other distros to use
[05:17] <Kyral> Jeez why didja need another style of InitScripts
[05:17] <Kyral> I get confused with SysV and BSD style right now anyway
[05:18] <mmorris> Agios?
[05:18] <mmorris> Agios:  you here?
[05:18] <Agios> yep
[05:19] <mmorris> It didn't work... how can I figure out the problem"?\
[05:19] <mmorris> It just sat there with a bright blue screen, and then went back to the login screen
[05:19] <Agios> what is the error message?
[05:19] <mmorris> no error message... just didn't do anything
[05:20] <mmorris> I clicked on Menu/then checked session type, then xgl, then I logged in
[05:20] <Agios> look in .xsession-errors
[05:20] <Agios> I would guess that's where the errors would be logged
[05:20] <mmorris> what part of that do you want to know
[05:20] <mmorris> ?
[05:21] <mmorris> Failed to open device
[05:21] <mmorris> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[05:21] <mmorris>   Major opcode:  145
[05:21] <mmorris>   Minor opcode:  3
[05:21] <mmorris>   Resource id:  0x0
[05:21] <mmorris> does that mean anything Agios?
[05:21] <Agios> probably
[05:22] <mmorris> does it mean anything to you?
[05:22] <Agios> google on xgl and the error message
[05:22] <scott> anybody here able to help me troubleshoot my webmin install?
[05:22] <Agios> means it couldn't open some device. If it's your disply it's not real good :)
[05:22] <Agios> I've never installed xgl nor read much about it.
[05:23] <Agios> search the kubuntu forums too
[05:23] <mmorris> it says I need to "comment" some things out of a file.. what does "comment out" mean?
[05:23] <mmorris> get rid of it?
[05:24] <Kr4t05> mmorris: place a # sign infront of the lines in a configuration file.
[05:24] <Agios> more or less, put a # in the 1st position usually
[05:24] <mmorris> oh, ok
[05:27] <draik> I am trying to watch a WMA file in firefox. What plugin would I need to view them?
[05:27] <draik> correction, WMV
[05:28] <gekko`> draik: mozilla-mplayer
[05:28] <draik> its installed
[05:28] <draik> it said something about totem
[05:29] <mmorris> Agios: here we go again... cross your fingers
[05:30] <gekko`> draik: you can also use totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin
[05:30] <Agios> apt-get install w32codecs
[05:30] <draik> Here is the error message...
[05:30] <dermitrius> i have an intresting ifconfig issues on my dapper server, the eth devices get the correct ips but when i ifconfig the inet values are 169 based ips, any ideas, btw i have a 2 nic setup
[05:31] <draik> Totem could not play 'fd://0'.
[05:31] <draik> Video codec 'MS WMV 8 (win32)' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies
[05:31] <gekko`> draik: look what Agios said
[05:32] <draik> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i19748
[05:32] <Healot> !info w32codecs
[05:32] <ubotu> Package w32codecs does not exist in dapper
[05:32] <draik> nope
[05:32] <draik> sure doesn't
[05:32] <Agios> well, it's there for me, I installed it. Check your sources :)
[05:33] <Healot> !seveas
[05:33] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:33] <draik> I have both universe and multiverse
[05:33] <Healot> that's the repos
[05:33] <mmorris> Agios, you there?
[05:33] <mmorris> didn't work
[05:33] <mmorris> did the same thing
[05:33] <mmorris> I'm gonna see if it gave me the same error
[05:33] <Healot> third party repos. Agios, do not recommend third party repos as it is from ubuntu, please
[05:35] <draik> gekko` I can't install the totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin. BREAK INSTALL
[05:36] <Hawkwind> Healot: 3rd party repos are recommended here all the time, day after day
[05:36] <draik> How do I go around a BREAK INSTALL?
[05:36] <Agios> well, if he want's to play wmv files he's going to have to install that package
[05:37] <Hawkwind> Healot: For him to be able to play wmv files, he will need to install w32codecs or else he's out of luck.  It's mentioned here every night practically
[05:37] <mmorris> I got the same error after doing what it said to do to fix it
[05:38] <Hawkwind> !info w32codecs
[05:38] <Healot> I'd used Windows for that, hoho
[05:38] <ubotu> Package w32codecs does not exist in dapper
[05:38] <Hawkwind> Healot: He wants to do it in Linux, and it's easily done.  PLF happens to be something very trustworthy
[05:38] <Healot> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:38] <Healot> well, I recommend you to migrate to freeformat instead
[05:39] <draik> how/where can I get the w32codecs?
[05:39] <Hawkwind> Why ?  w32codecs is needed by millions of linux users
[05:39] <Hawkwind> draik: From PLF
[05:39] <Hawkwind> !plf
[05:39] <ubotu> plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf - mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc
[05:40] <Hawkwind> Healot: Just because you don't use it doesn't mean anyone else shouldn't.  Also doesn't mean this channel can't recommend them since it's done day and night
[05:40] <Healot> isn't fsf recommends not to use proprietary formats, what's the point of migrating to Windows to Linux then, just my two cents, you don't have to agree with me
[05:41] <Hawkwind> Healot: I don't agree in some ways.  I'm one that preaches if you leave Windows then stay away.  But some people need to play wmv files, and therefore w32codecs is needed
[05:41] <Healot> i'd still use Windows for Windows-related stuff, and that's my other one cent
[05:42] <Agios> playing a wmv file is as valid for a linux user as a windows user
[05:42] <darkseed> need help with kubuntu dapper 6.06  after i mount a network share it disapears???
[05:42] <Hawkwind> Healot: I would use Windows when it comes to major things like games, office related stuff.  But for something minor like a wmv file, it can be done in Linux quite simply
[05:43] <Healot> i just need the DRM part... and games...
[05:43] <farous> !drm
[05:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about drm - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:43] <Healot> i buy copies of music... btw :)
[05:43] <Healot> legal copies, damn, why I did that?
[05:43] <farous> !dma
[05:43] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hard disks run faster,  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[05:43] <farous> ah got it
[05:44] <draik> Got them
[05:44] <draik> Thank you Hawkwind
[05:44] <Hawkwind> Healot: I buy legal copies of my music too.  In fact, I have over 7500 CD's in my house.  Still doesn't mean I won't ever need to play a wmv file
[05:44] <Hawkwind> Healot: In fact, if you buy legal copies of music from Napster, they happen to be in wmv format.
[05:45] <Healot> ipod store... napster? what is that hehe
[05:46] <ubuntu_Phantom78> i ran the kubuntu installer but it gave me a "cannot create file system error"
[05:47] <Healot> the desktop installer? was it, ubuntu_Phantom78 ?
[05:47] <ubuntu_Phantom78> yes
[05:47] <Healot> you received the error after you encounter the disk formatting?
[05:48] <wolfmanz> Agios aint you a system admin ?
[05:48] <keeley> wtf y don't they have EasyUbuntu at the very top of the Restricted Formats page? OMG I just wasted alot of time
[05:48] <ubuntu_Phantom78> i wasn't watching the install, but it was after selecting the partition
[05:49] <Agios> wolfmanz: Not sure what that is exactly but I probably qualify :)
[05:49] <Kyral> keeley: so you don't have to rely on it
[05:49] <wolfmanz> keeley ya easy ubuntu should be installed on the desktop when you install ubuntu/kubuntu
[05:49] <Kyral> no it shouldn't
[05:49] <wolfmanz> Agios i though you were a system admin as in your day job ?
[05:49] <keeley> ya nothing is on my desktop by default when I installed Kubunto
[05:50] <Kyral> heh nothing eh?
[05:50] <Kyral> KDE is something
[05:50] <Agios> well, we don't use that title. I do system level work on mainframe boxes.
[05:50] <Kyral> Arch comes with nothing (literally)
[05:51] <keeley> does Arch boot up slower when u install more stuff?
[05:51] <Kyral> Well, system services....
[05:51] <Kyral> but stuff like KDE and apps, no way
[05:52] <Agios> services take time to start and initialize
[05:52] <Kyral> Where do you get the idea that more apps == slower boottime
[05:52] <Kyral> like fractions of seconds actually
[05:52] <Kyral> the real killer on my system is my ReiserFS /home
[05:52] <Kyral> takes a good 30 secs to mount
[05:52] <Kyral> (Ithis is my Desktop)
[05:53] <keeley> well windows sucks bad with installing more stuff=slower boot
[05:53] <Kyral> This is why you only fire up enough services to get the system running
[05:53] <Agios> well windows sucks.
[05:53] <Agios> you could stp there :)
[05:54] <Agios> or after bad.
[05:54] <keeley> i g2g brb
[05:54] <Healot> Windows is cool, and even linuxers need Windows technologies, e.g. w32codecs hehe
[05:54] <Kyral> w32codecs is not Windows Technologies
[05:54] <ubuntu_Phantom78> only because windows dominates so much
[05:54] <Agios> I'm going to bed. Enough fun for one day.
[05:55] <Kyral> w32codecs are codecs for propreitary things that no one makes codecs for Linux for
[05:55] <wolfmanz> actually i think xp loads faster then kubuntu lol
[05:55] <Healot> it uses Window Media, I not sure that's even legal?
[05:55] <Kyral> its not in the US
[05:56] <Healot> not in countries where Microsoft patented the technology I guess
[05:56] <draik> LOL
[05:56] <wolfmanz> dont worry about whats legal microsoft dont care whats legaal or not in terms of what they practise so why should you worry about it lol
[05:56] <thompa> is it possible to rip a cd track as i listen in what?
[05:57] <draik> The codecs work and I saw the funny video of the guy who passed out 3x in an F16 ride
[05:57] <draik> http://www.military.com
[05:57] <keeley> !restricted
[05:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:57] <Healot> wolfmanz, I am concern user... i don't know about you... so i just saving my butt then
[05:58] <thompa> draik: are you in the air force?
[05:58] <draik> Nope
[05:58] <thompa> nevermind
[05:58] <draik> thompa, I'm in nothing military
[05:58] <thompa> what can i use to listen and rip of a cd?
[05:58] <draik> I have friends in Navy, Army, Air Force and possibly one in Marines (not sure)
[05:59] <Hawkwind> thompa: grip
[05:59] <thompa> draik: im a vet anyway
[05:59] <thompa> cold war though he he
[05:59] <draik> thompa vet? from?
[05:59] <draik> what military group, I meant?
[05:59] <thompa> are you running kubuntu64 by any chance?
[06:00] <hooper> I have ubuntu on dual boot on a pc than runs xp also. the xp install runs my video at 1280x1024 but I can't get ubuntu past 1024x768. what can I do?
[06:00] <thompa> air force
[06:00] <thompa> i just realized im in gnome,
[06:00] <draik> thompa, I would love to be in either the Air Force or Navy... Asthma and glasses hold me back
[06:00] <draik> But I've heard of ways of going around that
[06:01] <thompa> eye sites not much a problem
[06:01] <draik> I might go laser, but I heard that they don't accept people with laser-corrected eyes
[06:01] <thompa> stay away from military for some years ,
[06:01] <draik> I'm 23, I'm doing good so far :)
[06:01] <thompa> dont go its a trick
[06:02] <draik> NAVY... Never Again Volunteer Yourself
[06:02] <draik> I've heard the stories... it's my last resort
[06:02] <thompa> now cut off might be 42
[06:02] <thompa> he he
[06:02] <hooper> is this the right place to ask setup questions?
[06:02] <draik> don't matter, I'm a computer guy and that's as good as my usage goes
[06:03] <draik> hooper, what's your issue?
[06:03] <thompa> no ones answering any of my questions anyway
[06:03] <spc> gekko`: I installed kubuntu-desktop, and found the "desktop sharing", but still couldn't access from my other computer?
[06:03] <draik> what's your question thompa?
[06:03] <spc> do I need to restart X?
[06:03] <hooper> I can't get kubuntu past 1024x768 res
[06:04] <thompa> firstly, can i rip and listen to my cd at the same time
[06:04] <draik> yes
[06:04] <ubuntu_Phantom78> is there a difff file between the desktop iso and the non-dekstop iso (forget what its called)?
[06:04] <thompa> what app, or do i use two, i have one drive
[06:04] <draik> you can do both at the same time
[06:04] <Healot> ubuntu_Phantom78, alternate installer
[06:05] <Healot> the original debinstaller...
[06:05] <hooper> draik, I can't get kubuntu past 1024x768 res
[06:05] <thompa> im using sound juicer
[06:05] <farous> hooper: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:06] <draik> hooper, have you checked the wiki?
[06:06] <thompa> hooper: what specs you want?
[06:06] <hooper> farous, yes have trid that, it put me into illegible 24bit mode, looks very nasty
[06:06] <thompa> edit xorg.conf
[06:06] <hooper> going for 1280x1024. dual boot with xp that handles it fine
[06:06] <farous> hooper: do you know how to edit xorg.conf file
[06:07] <thompa> i always have to for 14440x900 anyway
[06:07] <hooper> thompa, yes, but not quite sure why it won't
[06:07] <draik> thompa, I have seen something about that, let me check
[06:07] <hooper> farous, no probs there
[06:07] <farous> hooper: so you can set it there under monitor or screen section
[06:07] <hooper> farous, yes, have file up now
[06:08] <thompa> find out your optimal resolution thenb just ad it to xorg.conf, edit there at color resolution
[06:09] <thompa> go ahead
[06:09] <hooper> thompa, optimal res is there, but it doesn't work and is not shown as an option under system settings either. like it's ignored
[06:09] <thompa> hooper: is it in how many colors 16 or 24?
[06:09] <farous> hooper: did you restart the xserver after editing the xorg.conf file
[06:09] <draik> thompa, grip
[06:10] <hooper> thompa, I have it in 16, coz 24 looks like it's not syncing
[06:10] <draik> !grip
[06:10] <ubotu> grip is a ripping player and has a minor bug which can be solved by doing this "sudo ln -s /dev/hdX /dev/cdromN" where X is your hard drive and N a number
[06:10] <hooper> farous, yes, restart between edits
[06:10] <thompa> thanks so much
[06:10] <thompa> for grip that is
[06:11] <draik> don't thank me, thank Hawkwind
[06:11] <thompa>  Depth           24
[06:11] <thompa>                 Modes           "1440x900"
[06:11] <thompa> sry about that
[06:11] <draik> He said it earlier
[06:11] <thompa> hooper: just have the one res. like above
[06:11] <hooper> thompa, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg defaults to 24, but when I run X it looks illegible, so I hand edit xorg.conf back to 16
[06:11] <thompa> or 16
[06:11] <thompa> only put the correct mode, are you running vesa?
[06:12] <hooper> ok thompa, I could try that I guess
[06:12] <hooper> brb
[06:12] <thompa> log out of x, come back
[06:12] <hooper> yep
[06:12] <thompa> make sure its vesa driver i guess
[06:12] <hooper> thompa, u talking to me?
[06:13] <thompa> unless you know its nvidia and you have driver installed, dont use nv
[06:13] <thompa> yes hooper
[06:13] <hooper> thompa, it's using s3
[06:14] <thompa> how old is it
[06:14] <hooper> 2004
[06:14] <farous> hooper: might it be the freq setting i had a prob like that setting freq to 60hz solved it
[06:14] <hooper> thompa, I looked up the specs for my monitor and set the right ranges
[06:15] <thompa> hooper: thats also important horiz. and vert. freq.
[06:15] <thompa> if its lcd or crt?
[06:15] <hooper> lcd
[06:15] <thompa> then its ok
[06:16] <hooper> then what's ok?
[06:16] <thompa> the lcd is probably working ok
[06:16] <hooper> oh, k
[06:16] <thompa> so use vesa driver
[06:16] <thompa> whats the exact card for graphic?
[06:17] <thompa> you can try different drivers, s3 i had like 12 years ago last
[06:17] <draik> What's the linux version of Publisher? I need to make business cards
[06:17] <thompa> my lcd only works first in vesa for resolution
[06:18] <keeley> so there's no way to get WMP 11 beta or 10 final to run in linux?
[06:18] <thompa> draik: scribus
[06:19] <hooper> is there a 'restart' command/icon I can use in kubuntu?
[06:19] <hooper> newbie :S
[06:19] <keeley> no windows Emulator or anything?
[06:19] <thompa> draik: scribus is kde, then you can make templates also in OO.org
[06:20] <froked> saludos
[06:20] <froked> Hi
[06:20] <draik> thank you thompa
[06:21] <thompa> draik: koffice makes nice templates too, and you can have your own icons for them
[06:21] <thompa> im just now trying konqeuror in gnome
[06:22] <|lostbyte|> keeley, wine.
[06:22] <draik> sweet
[06:22] <draik> I just need to make some business cards cuz people were asking me for them. Funny thing is that I never had any before
[06:23] <hooper> ok, it's official... kubuntu is ignoring what I teel it in xorg.conf :S
[06:23] <Ertain> For some strange reason, I can't seem to boot under the 2.6.15-26 kernel.  Upon closer inspection, I think it's my version of the nVidia driver.
[06:24] <thompa> hooper: have you re-xed out right?
[06:24] <hooper> I have my default mode at 16 and only one res "1280x1024" in that mode, but it comes up in 1024x768
[06:24] <Healot> from the dmesg output, Ertain ?
[06:24] <hooper> thompa, re-xed?
[06:24] <thompa> hooper: put vesa there and test it
[06:24] <Ertain> Can do.
[06:24] <posthuman> !nvidia
[06:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:24] <hooper> put vesa where thompa?
[06:25] <thompa> hooper: on xorg.conf .. driver "nv?"
[06:25] <thompa> hooper: put vesa there in "vesa"
[06:25] <thompa> hooper: then idf it works its the driver
[06:25] <thompa> yoo dark to type here
[06:26] <thompa>     Driver          "nvidia" change to "vesa" . save and restart x desktop
[06:27] <hooper> thompa, I don't see the word vesa anywhere in xorg.conf
[06:27] <thompa> ive got to figure out what to do with these scratched up cds.
[06:27] <ubuntu> hi,,, very new to linux,, I have probably tried 6 dif distro... believe ubuntu is the best,,  I have managed to set up a server in command line, but would like to set  up a webserver within kubuntu...
[06:27] <thompa> hooper: do you see driver "
[06:27] <hooper> thompa, yes
[06:28] <thompa> what is next to it
[06:28] <hooper> section "Device" driver "s3"
[06:28] <thompa>  Driver          "nvidia"
[06:28] <Ertain> Here's the error -> http://pastebin.ca/116207
[06:29] <thompa> hooper: so its not using nvidia, then try vesa there
[06:29] <farous> hooper: do you have a savage or nividia card?
[06:29] <thompa> if you get no screen chang it back
[06:29] <hooper> farous I actually have a sis card according to xp
[06:29] <hooper> thompa, replace driver "s3" with driver "vesa"?
[06:30] <thompa> hooper: well driver "s3" tells you what it is your using
[06:30] <thompa> hooper: if you have an nvidia driver, no problem
[06:30] <farous> hooper: what do lspci tell you about your video card?
[06:30] <thompa> hooper: i mean card, lots of cards will work
[06:30] <Ertain> And here's a little something from my Xorg.log file -> http://pastebin.ca/116208
[06:31] <thompa> hooper: do you have an s3 card, nvidia, or what?
[06:31] <hooper> thompa, farous, lspci says it's a s3 86c/764/765 Trio
[06:32] <hooper> I don't know how nvidia came up at all :)
[06:33] <farous> hooper: then your driver should be s3
[06:33] <thompa> hooper: do you know how to edit xorg.conf ans save it?
[06:33] <farous> there is an s3 driver in the xorg package i just checked
[06:33] <hooper> ok, well it is
[06:33] <hooper> yes I do, no probs
[06:33] <thompa> did you try vesa
[06:34] <hooper> got the file up now thompa
[06:34] <thompa> every card ive had works with that
[06:34] <hooper> do I replace "s3" with "vesa"?
[06:34] <thompa> you can either backup the file first mv xorg.conf xorg.confbk
[06:34] <Healot> "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" is safer...
[06:35] <farous> hooper: i would try replacing nividia with s3 then if it do not work use vesa
[06:35] <thompa> hes right
[06:35] <farous> vesa is the wild card
[06:35] <hooper> thompa, I also have a line under "Device" that says: boardname "s3". Do I change that to vesa also?
[06:35] <thompa> but it will work with vesa maybe 50 50
[06:35] <thompa> no
[06:35] <hooper> ok
[06:35] <hooper> brb then
[06:36] <thompa> if it does not work change it back
[06:36] <thompa> ctrl f1 for a prompt
[06:36] <thompa> too late hes doomed
[06:37] <|lostbyte|> lol
[06:38] <thompa> it will work
[06:39] <waggle7622frack> can someone help with boot error? Error 15: File not found
[06:40] <waggle7622frack> fresh install
[06:40] <draik> Might need to reinstall GRUB
[06:40] <|lostbyte|> waggle7622frack, Where exactly do you see it ?
[06:40] <waggle7622frack> right at boot
[06:40] <draik> I think it might be the GRUB
[06:40] <waggle7622frack> says filesystem type reiser but its ext3
[06:41] <waggle7622frack> path is correct
[06:41] <hackman2007> hi can anyone assist me with something?
[06:41] <Healot> reiser is ext3 with something extra on it :)
[06:42] <draik> hackman2007, what's your issue?
[06:42] <hackman2007> I need to download a chipset driver for my motherboard in order to get on the internet with Kubuntu or any other Linux distro, but it says I have to build something
[06:42] <draik> hackman2007, open up a Konsole window.
[06:42] <Healot> !info build-essential
[06:42] <draik> Type the following
[06:42] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In repository main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[06:42] <Healot> !info linux-headers
[06:42] <ubotu> Package linux-headers does not exist in dapper
[06:42] <hackman2007> "Unable to find the system utility 'ld'; please make sure you have the package 'binutils' installed. If you don't have binutils installed, then please check that 'ld' is in your path"
[06:43] <draik> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:43] <Healot> !find linux-headers
[06:43] <ubotu> Found: linux-headers-2.6.15-23, linux-headers-2.6.15-23-386, linux-headers-2.6.15-23-686, linux-headers-2.6.15-23-k7, linux-headers-2.6.15-23-server (and 18 others)
[06:43] <draik> type that in and you will have what you needs
[06:43] <draik> *need
[06:43] <hackman2007> which part?
[06:43] <draik> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:43] <hackman2007> anything after that?
[06:43] <draik> thats it
[06:43] <draik> it will install itself
[06:43] <draik> just press Y
[06:44] <hackman2007> all right
[06:44] <hackman2007> brb
[06:44] <draik> k
[06:45] <hackman2007> draik: that didn't work
[06:45] <draik> what didn't work
[06:46] <draik> what is your error?
[06:46] <draik> did you type it in exactly as I typed it
[06:46] <hackman2007> couldn't find package build-essential
[06:46] <hackman2007> yeah I typed exactly what you typed
[06:46] <draik> Kubuntu?
[06:46] <hackman2007> yes
[06:46] <draik> 6.06
[06:46] <draik> Dapper Drake?
[06:47] <hackman2007> ????
[06:47] <farous> !info build-essential
[06:47] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In repository main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[06:47] <draik> You should have it
[06:47] <draik> Open Adept
[06:47] <farous> hackman2007: might be a typo search for it again
[06:47] <draik> search for 'build-essential'
[06:47] <draik> not essentials
[06:47] <hackman2007> how do I search for it?
[06:47] <draik> its not the same
[06:47] <draik> in the search bar
[06:48] <hackman2007> what search bar lol
[06:48] <|lostbyte|> hackman2007, adept
[06:48] <draik> Open Adept
[06:48] <|lostbyte|> hackman2007, it will be in the menu under system.
[06:48] <draik> You'll find a bar and you type in 'build-essential'
[06:48] <draik> it will filter for that file
[06:49] <hackman2007> I'll look
[06:49] <hackman2007> brb
[06:49] <hackman2007> nope
[06:50] <hackman2007> it's not there
[06:50] <draik> how are you typing it in?
[06:50] <farous> hackman2007: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:50] <farous> hackman2007: copy and paste form the chat channel
[06:50] <hackman2007> in adept, it's not listed when I search for it
[06:50] <draik> except for your nick
[06:52] <thompa> hooperhooper: did it work
[06:52] <hooperhooper> thompa, snaps to you mate. vesa got me going in 1280x1024
[06:52] <hackman2007> draik: it still didn't work
[06:53] <thompa> hooperhooper: i have the correct modeline entry also if you want to try s3 sometime
[06:53] <hooperhooper> so is there any performance loss thompa?
[06:53] <draik> do this
[06:53] <hooperhooper> thompa, that would be great thanks
[06:53] <|lostbyte|> hackman2007, could you pastebin US your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[06:53] <draik> apt-get update
[06:53] <damian_> .
[06:53] <hackman2007> (I don't have internet on the machine btw)
[06:53] <farous> hackman2007: lol
[06:53] <hooperhooper> ok, who knows anything about webmin?
[06:54] <damian_> .
[06:54] <thompa> for s3 driver after depth 16 , Modes "1024x768@85"
[06:54] <hooperhooper> thompa, I have to register for priv
[06:54] <thompa> ok
[06:55] <thompa> just make sure you have that or s3 wont work i think
[06:55] <hooperhooper> thompa, what about 1280x1024 tho?>
[06:55] <draik> hackman2007, can you do as |lostbyte| asked and please pastebin your sources.list file
[06:56] <hackman2007> how do I do that lol
[06:56] <draik> http://www.pastebin.ca
[06:56] <farous> draik: his ubuntu box is not connected to the net
[06:56] <draik> go there
[06:56] <draik> farous, using a different box?
[06:56] <farous> hackman2007: for netwrok installation using adept you need to connect the box ot the net
[06:56] <hackman2007> ummm
[06:57] <thompa> hooperhooper: it wont work then maybe, i dont know
[06:57] <draik> hackman2007, is that Kubuntu computer hooked up to the internet?
[06:57] <hooperhooper> thompa, any problem sticking with vesa?
[06:57] <hackman2007> yes, it should be lol
[06:57] <thompa> hooperhooper: whats the computer?
[06:57] <draik> it should, that's why I ask
[06:57] <hooperhooper> thompa, it's for dev work, not gaming
[06:58] <thompa> hooperhooper: and the s3 is onboard 32 or 64M
[06:58] <hooperhooper> hp pavilion t230a
[06:58] <hooperhooper> just 32 I think
[06:58] <hackman2007> draik: it's connected through a netgear router
[06:59] <draik> and it has connectivity?
[06:59] <hackman2007> nope
[06:59] <draik> lights are blinking for that port?
[06:59] <hackman2007> yes
[06:59] <draik> then you're not on the net
[06:59] <Kadran> hi
[06:59] <hooperhooper> does anybody know anything about webmin?
[06:59] <thompa> hooperhooper: its a p4 fast machine
[06:59] <hackman2007> yeah, but that's what I'm trying to do lol
[06:59] <hackman2007> get it on the net
[06:59] <thompa> fast enough anyway
[07:00] <Kadran> i want to know if Creative MuVo mp3 s200 player could work with kubuntu or not
[07:00] <thompa> hooperhooper: do you have your system specs and all that right
[07:00] <farous> hackman2007: is it the wireless you are having probs with
[07:00] <|lostbyte|> Kadran, is there a linux port ?
[07:00] <hackman2007> farous: no, wired
[07:01] <Kadran> |lostbyte|: i don't know what is port?
[07:01] <hooper> thompa, not really, anything I can execute to get them?
[07:01] <hackman2007> want to know my motherboard model?
[07:01] <farous> hackman2007: that is wired wired eth should work out of the box
[07:01] <draik> no
[07:01] <thompa> hooperhooper: if its a t230a?
[07:01] <Kadran> |lostbyte|: it uses USB 2.0
[07:01] <thompa> hooperhooper: your driver is wrong
[07:01] <hackman2007> farous: is there any other way to make it work?
[07:03] <farous> hackman2007: the network driver is a kernel thing and this is the first i heared ethnet had probs try hooking it up directly to the net you might have probs with the router
[07:03] <draik> hackman2007, power cycle your complete setup. Computers, router, and moden
[07:03] <draik> *modem
[07:03] <thompa> hooperhooper: its a intel graphics driver
[07:03] <hackman2007> what's weird is my other computers' connect
[07:03] <draik> power cycle
[07:03] <hackman2007> and Windows connects on that computer too
[07:03] <hackman2007> I've already tried that lol
[07:04] <draik> try it again
[07:04] <thompa> sfkhooper: is that still you
[07:04] <sfkhooper> yes thompa, registered
[07:04] <|lostbyte|> Kadran, Connet it.
[07:04] <thompa> sfkhooper: oh
[07:05] <keeley> help! no idea wut my pass is when I type "su" in Konsole/Terminal
[07:05] <Kr4t05> !su
[07:05] <draik> keeley
[07:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about su - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:05] <Kr4t05> !sudo
[07:05] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:05] <hackman2007> draik: someone told me the the following the motherboard works fine in Linux as long as you load the latest BIOS (1001 for Asus, 3.0 for MSI) and use the latest kernel
[07:05] <|lostbyte|> Kadran, If it works as a normal flash drive, you'll see an icon pop on your Screen..
[07:05] <draik> keeley, sudo passwd root
[07:05] <draik> that will reset it for you
[07:06] <draik> hackman2007, get the updates and install them. See if that works
[07:06] <hackman2007> how lol?
[07:07] <draik> what is your motherboard?
[07:07] <draik> Go to their website and get the updated BIOS
[07:07] <draik> flash your BIOS
[07:07] <hackman2007> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813130041
[07:07] <draik> Update completed
[07:08] <keeley> thanks draik u always know wut to do
[07:08] <farous> hackman2007: you have a real prob deb based distros are network dependent try searching the forums for work around. you will have to do lots of manual downloads and then transfer files to your box
[07:08] <draik> keeley, I try
[07:08] <draik> keeley, You are very welcome
[07:09] <Dark_Oppressor> how do i see what kernal i have?
[07:09] <crimsun> uname -r
[07:09] <Dark_Oppressor> thanks
[07:10] <posthuman> !nvidia
[07:10] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:10] <Kadran> |lostbyte|: thanks man
[07:12] <posthuman> hey everyone, i can't remember how..but how do i reconfigure xorg with dpkg-reconfigure .. what is the package name?
[07:12] <farous> xserver-xorg
[07:12] <posthuman> thanks
[07:12] <posthuman> :)
[07:12] <farous> :)
[07:15] <waggle7622frack> looks like I need help fixing my grub. but everything looks right
[07:17] <waggle7622frack> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-23-386 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash
[07:17] <waggle7622frack> error 15: file not found
[07:17] <niki> hello excuse me for my englisch ,what is the name of the package to turn the numlock on?
[07:19] <niki> i musst tu use the fn button always zu writw my text
[07:19] <niki> -w+e
[07:19] <farous> niki: numlockx
[07:19] <keeley> how do i fix "rpm: command not found"
[07:19] <keeley> ?
[07:19] <Hawkwind> keeley: Ubuntu doesn't use rpm
[07:19] <farous> keeley: by using rpm package :)
[07:19] <Hawkwind> keeley: It uses apt-get
[07:19] <plugs> Could somebody help me out? This is probably a pretty common problem. i installed gcc and when i try to install anything i get "C compiler cannot create executables"
[07:20] <keeley> ok nvm
[07:20] <niki> thx
[07:20] <farous> keeley: ubuntu used dep packages
[07:20] <draik> keeley, use alien
[07:20] <draik> sudo apt-get install alien
[07:20] <draik> that will let you install rpm packages
[07:20] <farous> keeley: that in the rare case you can not find a deb binary for what you want
[07:20] <farous> !alien
[07:20] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[07:21] <keeley> no they have a non-RPM version i'll just use it
[07:21] <draik> !APT
[07:21] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[07:21] <keeley> !rpm
[07:21] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[07:21] <keeley> oooooo, quite dangerous
[07:21] <plugs> i installed gcc and when i try to install anything i get "C compiler cannot create executables", what do i do?
[07:22] <draik> mmhmmm
[07:22] <farous> plugs: install build-essential
[07:22] <plugs> i'll try that out
[07:24] <plugs> that worked, thanks, but now i have some new problem.
[07:24] <farous> plugs: go ahead ask and someone will help\
[07:25] <plugs> okay, well i'm trying to install PyGTK and i get "gobject is required to build pygtk?"
[07:25] <Healot> !ask
[07:25] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:26] <farous> i think this factoid need to be modified to be more understandable ;)
[07:26] <Healot> you need the GTK+ libraries and pygtk binder
[07:26] <Healot> !info libgtk+
[07:26] <ubotu> Package libgtk+ does not exist in dapper
[07:26] <Healot> !info libgtk2.0
[07:26] <ubotu> Package libgtk2.0 does not exist in dapper
[07:27] <farous> !info libgtk2.0-0
[07:27] <ubotu> libgtk2.0-0: The GTK+ graphical user interface library. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.8.20-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2037 kB, installed size 4520 kB
[07:27] <farous> Healot: there you go
[07:28] <plugs> looks like i already have libgtk2.0-0
[07:29] <soulrider> guys, i accidentally cancelled an adept installation, how can i resume it using the CLI ?
[07:30] <Healot> plugs, install libpygtk?
[07:30] <Healot> !find libpygtk
[07:30] <ubotu> No packages matching 'libpygtk' could be found
[07:30] <Healot> !find libpy
[07:30] <ubotu> Found: libpythonize0, libpythonize0-dev
[07:30] <Healot> somewhere around that hoho
[07:31] <plugs> i'll try the first one
[07:31] <crimsun> python-gtk2-dev
[07:32] <|lostbyte|> soulrider, It will resume as you select to install it again..
[07:33] <soulrider> yes, but i selected several packages to install :/
[07:33] <plugs> alright looks like something worked. =] 
[07:33] <plugs> i think python-gtk2 did it for me
[07:33] <plugs> let's see if the rest of the install goes how i want
[07:34] <|lostbyte|> soulrider, if  you stoped at the download prcess.. dont worry.
[07:34] <soulrider> not he thing is
[07:34] <soulrider> i downlaoded java
[07:34] <soulrider> but ic ouldnt click or slect yes int he licence agreement
[07:34] <soulrider> and it gor fooked up
[07:35] <farous> soulrider: that is a known bug install java from the command line
[07:35] <draik> do it again soulrider
[07:35] <soulrider> and not it sais somehtign is using adept adn the process is blocked
[07:35] <draik> kill
[07:35] <draik> actually, I forgot the command to kill the tree
[07:35] <draik> kill adept anyway
[07:35] <soulrider> kill -l adept ?
[07:36] <soulrider> wont let me do killa dept
[07:36] <soulrider> killall worked
[07:36] <draik> killall works too
[07:36] <draik> yup
[07:36] <soulrider> its installing now, thanks!
[07:37] <dubuntu> hello my friends
[07:37] <draik> hello dubuntu
[07:37] <soulrider> hi dubuntu
[07:37] <dubuntu> every now them X on kubuntu hangs !!
[07:37] <draik> ummm sure, np
[07:37] <dubuntu> soulrider: hi
[07:38] <soulrider> done with java, now eclipse! :P
[07:38] <dubuntu> when I do shit + alt + f1 console does not comes !!
[07:38] <dubuntu> when I do shfit + alt + f1 console does not comes !!
[07:38] <soulrider> shit... interesting key, i dont seem to have it
[07:39] <soulrider> :P
[07:39] <dubuntu> is this bug in ubuntu ?
[07:39] <soulrider> use alt+space
[07:39] <soulrider> and then type konsole
[07:39] <soulrider> or alt f2 and then konsole
[07:39] <draik> careful soulrider, don't get banned
[07:41] <dubuntu> i dont want konsole but linux console without x
[07:41] <dubuntu> as my X server hangs
[07:41] <soulrider> sorry draik
[07:41] <draik> I'm not offended or anything, I just don't want you to get banned for something so dumb as that
[07:42] <draik> Believe me, I would make a sailor blush
[07:43] <dubuntu> Why KDE stops responding every 20 min or so
[07:43] <dubuntu> but if i do alt shift f1 and f7 it starts responding again
[07:44] <plugs> allright! my installation worked! thanks guys, you're awesome.
[07:48] <Healot> plugs, shall i say you ....?
[07:49] <nalpha> guys i want to ask how to use active directory in ubuntu?? how to install the server in ubuntu?
[07:50] <sfkhooper> does anyone know how to use intellisense in kdevelop?
[07:51] <cwraig_> i have used fedora directory services under debian sarge
[07:51] <cwraig_> it worked alright
[07:51] <Healot> the code completion thing?
[07:51] <nalpha> ow
[07:51] <nalpha> thanx
[07:52] <dubuntu> when I do ctrl + alt + f1 console does not comes !!
[07:53] <plugs> Healot, what?
[07:55] <Healot> plugs, that was for sfkhooper
[07:55] <cwraig_> fedora drictory worked alright
[07:55] <cwraig_> it was a bit of a pain to get setup but it worked good i thought
[07:57] <draik> !apt
[07:57] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[07:58] <draik> !adept
[07:58] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[07:59] <damian_> !wifi
[07:59] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:59] <cwraig> wow i didint know that worked?
[08:00] <damian_> lol
[08:00] <cwraig> is there a list of the tags that works somewhere
[08:00] <cwraig> !vnc
[08:00] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[08:00] <plugs> what does it mean when something has no installation candidate?
[08:01] <Zuiden> Hello I was installing kubuntu 6.06 off the live DVD and i am using GUI installer and when I try to partition my harddrive i am getting an error dealing with NTFS
[08:01] <SpAwN> !kernel
[08:01] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[08:01] <cwraig> Zuiden> what are you trying to do
[08:01] <cwraig> install on or next to an ntfs partition
[08:01] <Zuiden> next to
[08:01] <draik> !rpm
[08:01] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[08:01] <Zuiden> i need to resize my NTFS partition
[08:02] <cwraig> Zuiden> thats ugly...real ugly
[08:02] <draik> Zuiden, there are known issues with the GUI of partitioning
[08:02] <Zuiden> i tryed to use qtparted but i am getting the same error
[08:03] <draik> Zuiden, I suggest that you either partition in m$ with partitionmagic or keep trying till something works
[08:03] <cwraig> the easiest way i found to do it was to use partition magic (not free)
[08:03] <draik> qtparted has known issues
[08:03] <Zuiden> whats the text based partitioner?
[08:03] <OOD> did you defrag your hard drive right before resizing?
[08:03] <Zuiden> yes
[08:03] <cwraig> or wait afew months now that linux has full ntfs support we just need it to be implemented into qtparted fully
[08:04] <Zuiden> true
[08:04] <Zuiden> or just wipe windows off my hard drive
[08:04] <Zuiden> its tempting but i can't
[08:04] <Zuiden> too many gov't military things need windows
[08:05] <waggle7622frack> try gparted live cd, its said to be non destructive
[08:05] <Zuiden> thats what i used a looonnng time ago before i joined the military
[08:05] <Zuiden> and i had a bunch of time to mess around and download images
[08:05] <draik> why do you need windoze?
[08:05] <draik> I'm sure there is an = in Linux
[08:06] <Zuiden> defense websites for some reason don't play nice in windows
[08:06] <Zuiden> errr
[08:06] <draik> I'm sure Linux will take care of you
[08:06] <Zuiden> windows -> linux
[08:06] <draik> I think you were right the first time :P
[08:07] <Zuiden> no because i can barely get by with firefox
[08:07] <Zuiden> they were made for IE
[08:07] <OOD> ie runs in wine
[08:07] <draik> yup
[08:07] <Zuiden> meh
[08:07] <OOD> http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/index-en.html
[08:07] <draik> wine 'internet exploder'
[08:07] <Zuiden> has wine got its kinks worked out?
[08:07] <OOD> what kinks?
[08:07] <Zuiden> i haven't used linux in about 6 months
[08:07] <draik> !wine
[08:07] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:08] <Zuiden> last time iused it it was fairly buggy
[08:08] <draik> check out the link
[08:08] <draik> might be helpful
[08:08] <OOD> it's really reliable
[08:08] <Zuiden> i know how to use wine
[08:08] <Zuiden> hmm
[08:08] <Zuiden> whats the text based partitioner?
[08:08] <cwraig> parted
[08:08] <draik> !parted
[08:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about parted - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:08] <draik> !qtparted
[08:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about qtparted - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:08] <draik> !find part
[08:08] <ubotu> Found: libparted1.6-13, libparted1.6-dbg, libparted1.6-dev, parted, parted-doc (and 23 others)
[08:09] <Healot> it's WINE, wine is a liquor hohoho :)
[08:09] <Healot> !info parted
[08:09] <ubotu> parted: The GNU Parted disk partition resizing program. In repository main, is standard. Version 1.6.25.1-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 79 kB, installed size 172 kB
[08:10] <Zuiden> crap i forgot how to get this started
[08:10] <draik> !cups
[08:10] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[08:10] <draik> !info cups
[08:10] <ubotu> Package cups does not exist in dapper
[08:11] <draik> what does CUPS stand for again?
[08:11] <Zuiden> !find partition
[08:11] <ubotu> No packages matching 'partition' could be found
[08:11] <draik> Common Unix Printing Server
[08:11] <draik> System?
[08:11] <draik> ???
[08:12] <OOD> yeah it's sytem
[08:12] <draik> Thanks OOD
[08:12] <OOD> err.. i think
[08:12] <intelikey> i have two issues which do you want first    grub   or   k3b  ?
[08:12] <draik> gruvb
[08:12] <draik> *grub
[08:12] <OOD> yeah, it's system :D
[08:13] <Zuiden> alright this is the error i am getting
[08:13] <intelikey> you would say that.  let me get the error mess
[08:13] <Zuiden> No Implementation: Support for opening ntfs file systems is not implemented yet.
[08:13] <plugs> what does it mean if something has no installation candidate?
[08:13] <sfkhooper> healalot, yes
[08:14] <intelikey> ok  grub-install /dev/hda   yelds this.
[08:15] <intelikey> Unknown partition table signature       5 times.
[08:15] <draik> pastebin?
[08:15] <intelikey> The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[08:15] <intelikey> that's it   ^
[08:15] <draik> 1 sec
[08:16] <draik> I can send you a copy of mine if you'd like. You can replace yours
[08:16] <intelikey> mine yours what ?
[08:17] <draik> stage1 file
[08:17] <intelikey> there is nothing wrong with that file.
[08:17] <intelikey> sure send it   but it's for nought.
[08:18] <plugs> What does this mean? "Package tk has no installation candidate"
[08:19] <intelikey> i can rm -r /boot/grub     and rerun grub-install   same error and it makes /boot/grub and populates it correctly so the error about  /boot/grub/stage1 is bogus.
[08:19] <Zuiden> No Implementation: Support for opening ntfs file systems is not implemented yet.   <-- i am getting that error while partitioning
[08:19] <intelikey> plugs do an apt-cache search   for the package you want.
[08:21] <draik> hmmm
[08:21] <plugs> oh wow, that is quite useful.
[08:21] <draik> I tried to google your issue intelikey, nothing promising thusfar
[08:21] <intelikey> that's the luck i have with google
[08:22] <draik> maybe...
[08:22] <draik> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=175689
[08:22] <intelikey> looking
[08:23] <dein> does anyone have any idea of the stability and performance of kde 3.5.4 compared to .3 on kubuntu?
[08:24] <noiesmo> dein, running 3.5.4 and seems ok so far haven't had any issues I didnt have before
[08:24] <draik> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=353305
[08:24] <draik> That's another on Ubuntu 5.04 I believe
[08:24] <draik> yup
[08:25] <dein> cool
[08:25] <dein> whats the repository for it?
[08:25] <noiesmo> dein, one sec
[08:25] <dein> k
[08:26] <noiesmo> dein, this is from my sources.list deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 dapper main deb ftp://bolugftp.uni-bonn.de/pub/kde/stable/3.5.3/kubuntu dapper main
[08:26] <Jucato> dein, for KDE 3.5.4 - deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354 dapper main
[08:26] <dein> isnt that the repository for 3.5.3?
[08:26] <draik> intelikey, is that helpful?
[08:26] <dein> ok thanks jucato and noiesmo
[08:27] <noiesmo> dein, holy crap your right
[08:28] <intelikey> no
[08:28] <draik> 2nd link?
[08:29] <intelikey> to both
[08:29] <dein> hmm, lots of new stuff in this upgrade
[08:29] <Ash-Fox> My only annoyane about KDE 3.5.3 is that the bluetooth kioslaves are broken in there.
[08:29] <Jucato> lots of new stuff. I had around 150 packages to upgrade
[08:30] <draik> intelikey, I don't suppose you understand spanish???
[08:30] <Ash-Fox> So I stick with KDE3.5.2, even though the older Kopete version annoys me with the lack of pirvacy features.
[08:30] <soulrider> Jucato: so did i, i think that today in updates and progams i needed i downloaded around 500 mb at least
[08:31] <soulrider> draik: need any spanish help? :P
[08:31] <soulrider> have you guys tried kmule and amule? what do you think is better
[08:31] <Teejay_wp> amule
[08:31] <draik> soulrider, nah. I got it
[08:31] <intelikey> draik not enough to call it understanding it.
[08:32] <Ash-Fox> What legitimate uses does kmule/amule have anyway?
[08:32] <soulrider> doubt it has any
[08:33] <olly> hi all!
[08:33] <noiesmo> hi
[08:33] <draik> what good is an online help man if it links you to dead pages?!?!
[08:34] <olly> someone has a hint for me how to use an ipn2200 wlan card under 6.06?
[08:34] <noiesmo> maybe ndiswrapper
[08:34] <draik> intelikey, here maybe... http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Reinstalling_GRUB
[08:35] <olly> hmhm... have tried the recent windoze drivers with ndiswrapper under suse10.1 - did not work.
[08:35] <noiesmo> olly, install ndisgtk its a gui for ndiswrapper you can then install winxp drivers for your wifi card
[08:35] <olly> is that package included in 6.06?
[08:35] <draik> !grub
[08:35] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:35] <noiesmo> olly, not sure
[08:35] <olly> will check out...
[08:36] <Jucato> excuse me, what will happen if I connect to a different port in IRC? The defaul it 6667, but the #ubuntu-classroom page says to connect to a specific port. (A bit new to this IRC stuff)
[08:36] <intelikey> looking. draik let me get out of this stinking gui so i can do things.   brb.
[08:36] <noiesmo> olly, you should add universe and multiverse to your sources.list /repos then many more packages avail
[08:36] <olly> thanks for that info, noiesmo
[08:36] <noiesmo> olly, np :)
[08:36] <olly> will use my wired lan then to install and upate ;)
[08:36] <intelikey> this is better.
[08:37] <noiesmo> olly, thats the go. once you get wifi going ditch the wire
[08:37] <olly> does ndiswrapper work good on amd64 or should i install 32bit version?
[08:38] <noiesmo> olly, me only 32bit sory cannot help you there
[08:38] <Healot> there is a 64-bit version of ndiswrapper
[08:38] <olly> np, wont be a mess to use a 32bit system on a 64bit cpu. ;)
[08:39] <olly> healot: included in 6.06?
[08:39] <Healot> !info ndiswrapper
[08:39] <ubotu> Package ndiswrapper does not exist in dapper
[08:39] <Healot> !find ndiswrapper
[08:39] <ubotu> Found: linux-image-2.6.15-23-386, linux-image-2.6.15-23-686, linux-image-2.6.15-23-k7, linux-image-2.6.15-23-server, linux-image-2.6.15-23-server-bigiron (and 12 others)
[08:39] <farous> ndiswrapper-utils
[08:39] <draik> intelikey, did it work for you?
[08:39] <Healot> why they put package name like that?
[08:39] <abattoir> olly: you'll need a 64-bit version of your windows driver
[08:40] <olly> hm ok... thats obvious then. ;)
[08:40] <farous> i guess the module itself is in the linux-restricted-modules
[08:40] <intelikey> nope.
[08:40] <farous> the utils is just utilities to use the ndiswrapper
[08:41] <draik> sorry intelikey
[08:41] <intelikey> hehhe  thanks for trying.
[08:41] <draik> what's your k3b issue?
[08:42] <intelikey> the closest thing to actually being in the ball park of helping what this message in one of those links.
[08:42] <intelikey>  If you get an error that says The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read
[08:42] <intelikey>    correctly, it probably means that your fstab/mtab is incorrect for some
[08:42] <intelikey>    reason and needs to be fixed up. These files are /etc/mtab and /etc/fstab.
[08:42] <olly> thanks so far, folx... i bbl - have to reboot my laptop to test that stuff out. see ya! :)
[08:42] <noiesmo> olly, cya
[08:42] <intelikey>    Edit them and make sure they point to the correct partitions,but there is nothing wrong with my m/fs-tab
[08:43] <intelikey> i think i see there why it may be failing tho.
[08:43] <draik> why?
[08:43] <intelikey> let me test something.     i mount some disks in fstab
[08:43] <draik> test away like a mad genius
[08:45] <intelikey> well now i'm mad   ;/
[08:45] <intelikey> don't know about the other part.
[08:46] <intelikey> i was thinking that maybe commenting out the referances to hard disks in the fstab would help.   but alas it made no differance at all
[08:48] <intelikey> the k3b issue.
[08:48] <draik> k
[08:48] <intelikey> cdrecord will be run without root privileges
[08:48] <intelikey> It is highly recommended to configure cdrecord to run with root privileges. Only then cdrecord runs with high priority which increases the overall stability of the burning process. Apart from that it allows changing the size of the used burning buffer. A lot of user problems could be solved this way. This is also true when using SuSE's resmgr.
[08:49] <intelikey> is there anyway to get around that ^  ?
[08:49] <draik> I've never come across that issue
[08:49] <draik> what were you trying to do?
[08:50] <farous> intelikey: i alwasy use it as regular user never had any prob and i read this warning before did not make a diff to me
[08:50] <intelikey> you've never mounted your partitions nosuid either
[08:50] <farous> no i never mounted my part this way
[08:51] <intelikey> farous ok i'll ignore the warning...   but i hate making frisbies
[08:51] <pablo> hello... I have a problem with kde 3.5.4! Apparence in System Setting crash! Solution?
[08:52] <intelikey> farous care to stab at my grub issue ?
[08:52] <intelikey> :)
[08:52] <farous> intelikey: i just reply to what i know
[08:52] <farous> intelikey: and you need to learn to be less aggressive
[08:53] <Ertain> I can't seem to copy files off a DVD+RW disc.  I'm positive the disc doesn't have any errors, yet it keeps giving me I/O errors.  I think it's how my drive configuration is set up.  Any ideas?
[08:53] <intelikey> farous aggressive ?
[08:54] <farous> intelikey: ok seems my mistake thought your are being sarcastic
[08:54] <farous> english is not my first lang
[08:54] <intelikey> Ertain what does   mount   tell you  (only the line that pertains to the dvd)
[08:55] <intelikey> farous understood.
[08:55] <Ertain> intelikey: what do you mean exactly?  When I do the "mount" command?  Since it auto-mounts.
[08:56] <noiesmo> ok for some reason every now and then my kde stuffs up. the only solution so far is to remove my ~/.kde/share folder and its all good again how can i track whats getting chanhged in my ~/.kde/share folder t find a solution
[08:56] <intelikey> hmmm does automounding not make notes in mtab ?    i don't use any automounting...
[08:57] <intelikey> noiesmo you could copy it when it's working correctly and diff it.
[08:58] <intelikey> if it changes often that wouldn't help tho
[08:58] <noiesmo> intelikey, good one thats the go. thanks man
[08:58] <noiesmo> hey its a start
[08:58] <pablo> remove this directory isn't a solution... the problem is libc and a thread
[08:59] <noiesmo> pablo, you talking to me
[08:59] <farous> intelikey: you are member of plugdev group
[08:59] <intelikey> i don't think so.
[08:59] <farous> this will automount for example jumpdrives
[08:59] <Ertain> Here's the line from /etc/mtab: "/dev/hdh /media/hdh udf rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=007,iocharset=utf8 0 0"  Also, here's some info from dmesg: http://pastebin.ca/116390
[08:59] <farous> intelikey: by default you are try groups in a term
[08:59] <pablo> excuse me... sorry...
[09:00] <intelikey> farous i'm not.   i was a little supprised to see that the group exists on this system.
[09:01] <_kalm> hello
[09:01] <farous> intelikey: can you mount through pmount?
[09:01] <intelikey> farous not as user
[09:01] <rr73> night intelikey
[09:01] <_kalm> how do you change your username in Linux? (or kubuntu)
[09:01] <intelikey> can't mount without root permission
[09:01] <farous> intelikey: ok you are not member of the group then you are right
[09:01] <intelikey> rr73 peace kid.
[09:02] <rr73> kid?
[09:02] <rr73> ;)
[09:02] <Ertain> It keeps saying that the tray is open, even when it's not.
[09:02] <intelikey> yes.   i'm more than twice your age remember.
[09:02] <rr73> damn ur old
[09:02] <Healot> old doesn't mean mature right?
[09:03] <noiesmo> intelikey, your only as old as the woman you feel
[09:03] <rr73> nit necesereky
[09:03] <intelikey> farous i can add myself to plugdev group   and pmount still wont work here.
[09:03] <farous> intelikey: that is really strange
[09:03] <rr73> *not
[09:03] <farous> intelikey: pmount /dev/sda1 for example
[09:04] <farous> and it will be mounted under media
[09:04] <farous> /media/
[09:04] <_kalm> how can you change your username???
[09:04] <farous> _kalm: in irrc i presumed
[09:04] <uniq> intelikey: after adding your self to the plugdev group you woiuld have to re-login.
[09:04] <Ertain> I wonder why it keeps saying "tray open" for my drive?
[09:04] <intelikey> -bash: /usr/bin/pmount: Permission denied
[09:04] <_kalm> no in linux
[09:05] <_kalm> how do i change my username in linux (the one i log in with)
[09:05] <_kalm> how do i change my username in linux (the one i log in with)
[09:05] <_kalm> XD
[09:05] <farous> _kalm: you need to add a new user then
[09:05] <intelikey> uniq it wont matter,   i can reboot and it wont change the fact that mounting requires root perms.  and this is a nosuid system.
[09:05] <farous> intelikey: oh did you log out and in again
[09:06] <uniq> intelikey: nosuid system.. -rwsr-xr-- 1 root plugdev 35K 2006-07-07 20:59 /usr/bin/pmount
[09:06] <farous> intelikey: after adding yourself to the group
[09:06] <intelikey> what part of "it can not be done"  are the two of you missing ?
[09:07] <farous> intelikey: you said you just added your self to the plugev group. for this to work you need to restart your session did you do that
[09:07] <draik> I think it's the NOT part
[09:07] <intelikey> i think so.
[09:07] <draik> sorry, I don't mean to instigate
[09:07] <farous> intelikey: remeber we can not see what you are doing and we are just trying to help
[09:07] <uniq> _kalm: changing username is easy. 'sudo usermod -l newname oldname' that will however only change the login name, not the home directory name.
[09:08] <_kalm> THANK YOU
[09:09] <intelikey> farous may i ask what you are trying to help me do ?    the issue i have is 'grub' wont install.   i use mount just fine.   (but only as root)
[09:09] <uniq> _kalm: to change homedir you can use 'sudo usermod -m -d /home/newuser olduser' contents will be moved.
[09:10] <intelikey> uniq it doesn't have to be in /home  you know.
[09:11] <uniq> intelikey: doesn't have to, but i use that in examples as that is the default expected, and most common place to have user files.
[09:11] <intelikey> yeah.  just being pedantic i guess.
[09:12] <uniq> what was your mounting problem again?
[09:12] <intelikey> lol whos ?
[09:12] <uniq> pmount needs to be suid so running nosuid will effectively disable it for everyone except root.
[09:13] <intelikey> correct.  i think i said that   at least in effact  about three times now.
[09:15] <uniq> intelikey: ok, just figured you had a problem, didn't read enought backlog to understand the whole situation. :)
[09:15] <intelikey> uniq i did ask a question eariler.    anyone know why grub-install /dev/hda   pukes out "Unknown partition table signature" < X5  and then "The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly."     got any insight on that ?
[09:17] <Ertain> Btw, mtab says that my /dev/hdh drive, which is the DVD+RW drive, has "nosuid".
[09:18] <uniq> intelikey: not really.. i seldom use grub as i primarily run powerpc.
[09:18] <intelikey> i want to say i'm sorry to farous and uniq if i sounded, in anyway unthankful for the attempt to help.   but it seemed kinda odd to me that you both decided that i should fix pmount and were insistant about it.    thanks for trying guys.
[09:19] <farous> intelikey: i understand the frustration of getting offtopic answers :)
[09:19] <uniq> no problem, i think: 09:05 < intelikey> farous i can add myself to plugdev group   and pmount still wont work here.
[09:19] <uniq> triggered my "helpfullness"
[09:19] <intelikey> Ertain my whole system has nosuid.  keeps normal users from doing anything as root.
[09:20] <intelikey> ah yes uniq i can see how comming in at that point would.
[09:21] <Ertain> Hmm... I wonder how I can use "nosuid", yet also be able to use root stuff?
[09:22] <uniq> intelikey: over to your actual problem. does 'fdisk /dev/hda' or 'cfdisk /dev/hda' give any errors? or is it just grub?
[09:22] <intelikey> Ertain only one two ways i know of.   set a root password.  so you can login as root  (not the best for online safty)  or setup init to open a root console for you (not the best for hands on safty)
[09:23] <intelikey> uniq it's just grub
[09:25] <Tm_T> intelikey: how root account is unsafe for online safety?
[09:25] <intelikey> if you need security both for the hands on user and the online user use suid and BE SURE TO SETUP SUDO   the default way is basicly #1 user = root the second.  i.e. root jounior.
[09:27] <intelikey> Tm_T the root account is the primary target of script kiddies trying to root your box.   unless they know you use ubuntu.  then they hang in the #*buntu channels look at user names and try to crack the password of the user names which is generally much easier.
[09:27] <Tm_T> intelikey: well, still don't understand how root account is any more dangerous
[09:28] <intelikey> more than ?
[09:28] <Tm_T> intelikey: I mean, ofcourse we se ssh to not allow root logins ;)
[09:28] <Tm_T> s/se/set/
[09:29] <Tm_T> intelikey: so, I don't see the problem ;)
[09:29] <intelikey> if you can loging as root  then any access over ssh/telnet/vnc... becomes an access point to run scripts from.
[09:29] <Tm_T> intelikey: that's why we set ssh to not allow root logins, it's not wise anyway
[09:30] <Tm_T> and nobody will login to my pc as root here locally except me
[09:30] <intelikey> Tm_T may i ask one question ?
[09:31] <Tm_T> sure :)
[09:31] <intelikey> your boast of security.  is that a challange ?
[09:31] <Tm_T> hmm? no, I just test your theory ;)
[09:32] <intelikey> k just wondering.
[09:32] <Tm_T> without debate you can't just say things as "true"
[09:32] <Tm_T> everything has to be tested
[09:33] <wolfmanz> 108.336 under vmsize is about 108 mesg correct?
[09:33] <Tm_T> intelikey: so, we agree that root account has some security risks but some of them can be handled easily?
[09:33] <Ertain> Anyway, I still don't know why I can't copy files off of my DVD+RW disc.  Then again, I don't have an entry for it in /etc/fstab.
[09:34] <Tm_T> !fstab
[09:34] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[09:35] <intelikey> Tm_T take it up with the ubuntu team.  they make the claim that sudo is safer than root passwd.  and will fight you tooth and nail about it.    i say sudo can be safer than a root password but the default root jounior (ubuntu way) is not.        and bottom line is this.  if i have hands on.  i won any box.  no debate.
[09:36] <Tm_T> intelikey: =)
[09:36] <Tm_T> intelikey: yeah, sudo is safer for new users because atleast you have to enter password once in a while
[09:36] <Tm_T> and then you have time to think what you're doing
[09:37] <Tm_T> noiesmo: I use both, in their own usage
[09:37] <intelikey> hehhe so you say.   i'm not a new user so i can't argue that.
[09:37] <noiesmo> they should ad a password strength feature to it so if the users password is weak it get s rejected
[09:37] <Tm_T> intelikey: I'm very new, only 2 years or so ;)
[09:37] <plugs> how do i execute a shell script? when i click it, it opens it in Kate.
[09:38] <intelikey> noiesmo mandrake has/had that for ever.
[09:38] <noiesmo> one place i work there are 1200 users and there passwords are the pits like a name with a number what the?
[09:38] <Jucato> noiesmo: but what if the password that they want, or the password that they've been using in other systems is weak? will they be forced to memorize a new one?
[09:38] <noiesmo> intelikey, say no more mandrake suxs
[09:39] <intelikey> noiesmo yeah almost as bad as *buntu  :)
[09:39] <enzo> noiesmo, I worked at a place where EU's passwords were their names plus their cube number
[09:39] <noiesmo> Jucato, boo hoo so what I remember 16 caracter passwords
[09:39] <Healot> it's the users who suck
[09:39] <intelikey> Healot :)
[09:39] <noiesmo> most problems occur between the seat and the keyboard ie users
[09:39] <Healot> migrators :_
[09:40] <intelikey> lol
[09:40] <plugs> how do i execute a shell script instead of opening it in Kate? does that even make sense?
[09:40] <intelikey> yeah.  every one should have to stick with the linux they started with.
[09:40] <Jucato> well I can't remember that much. so I guess I'm the problem, along with some other people who don't have the same memory as you?
[09:40] <Healot> plugs, in terminal
[09:40] <farous> users are not admins they need a passwd that is easy to remember. And worse thing happen it won't matter they do not save important info anyway. They reinstall the operating system if they face a prob they can not deal with
[09:40] <intelikey> plugs right click on it.
[09:42] <intelikey> my mother has her password pasted on the monitor with masking tape  lol
[09:42] <noiesmo> Jucato, don't take offence, its just a general statement
[09:42] <Healot> she used glue?
[09:42] <noiesmo> intelikey, Healot lol
[09:43] <noiesmo> Jucato, and i'm getting drunk and thought i'd stir some ;)
[09:43] <intelikey> anyone new idelers want to tackel a grub error ?
[09:44] <intelikey> idlers even
[09:44] <Tm_T> intelikey: throw it
[09:44] <intelikey> uniq i did ask a question eariler.    anyone know why grub-install /dev/hda   pukes out "Unknown partition table signature" < X5  and then "The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly."     got any insight on that ?
[09:44] <Jucato> I didn't take offence. There was a time that I could memorize 30 11-digit phone numbers. Now I can't anymore... :(
[09:45] <plugs> healot, what do i put into the terminal?
[09:45] <intelikey> uniq sorry didn't remember that having your nick name prepended.
[09:45] <noiesmo> Jucato, kool no offence intended :)
[09:45] <Tm_T> intelikey: hilarious
[09:45] <intelikey> plugs sh filename.sh
[09:46] <Jucato> noiesmo: no offense taken.
[09:46] <plugs> oh right
[09:46] <intelikey> Tm_T while you giggle at it,  got any thoughts about it ?
[09:47] <Jucato> I think you can also make scripts execute from within the GUI by making them executable (chmod +x), right?
[09:47] <Tm_T> intelikey: I'm thinking... so grub claims that before it gives any menu or is that after you select kernel?
[09:48] <intelikey> Tm_T that is (as stated above) when i run grub-install /dev/hda
[09:48] <Tm_T> aaaah
[09:49] <plugs> can i create a shell script that will do something in a different directory?
[09:49] <Tm_T> intelikey: very interesting and very unknown to me, sorry :)
[09:49] <plugs> oh wait
[09:49] <Tm_T> s/:)/:(
[09:49] <noiesmo> intelikey, googled you error check this maybe http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Restore_Grub
[09:49] <intelikey> plugs absoposalutly
[09:50] <Jucato> intelikey: lol!
[09:51] <plugs> intelikey, how would i do that?
[09:51] <intelikey> noiesmo did you even look at that page ?
[09:52] <intelikey> plugs any commands you would type on the command line,  just put them in the script.
[09:52] <noiesmo> intelikey, sorry man I'm going to sit quitly now and drink my blue label johnny walker sorry
[09:52] <plugs> ah alright.
[09:52] <intelikey> noiesmo in fact i think i wrote that one.
[09:52] <noiesmo> intelikey, ha hah
[09:53] <intelikey> noiesmo well anyway,  it's no help but thanks for trying.
[09:53] <noiesmo> intelikey, a for effort hey lol ;)
[09:53] <waylandbill> what does it mean when packages are "held back" ?
[09:54] <Jucato> waylandbill: it means that, for some reason, they won't be installed or upgraded, AFAIK
[09:54] <intelikey> waylandbill means there are newer ones but you are not getting them
[09:54] <noiesmo> intelikey, why not ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[09:54] <waylandbill> it happened when I added the 3.5.4 mirror on kubuntu.org
[09:55] <intelikey> waylandbill you can do an  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade    and get them.       the updater will not by default update the system, only the apps on it.
[09:55] <Tm_T> waylandbill: that means there's something that prevents from upgrading, dist-upgrade should solve it
[09:56] <mark_> hello there is there anyone can help me to configure my printer?
[09:56] <mark_> hello there is there anyone can help me to configure my printer?
[09:56] <intelikey> that something can be as simple as the package being part of the core system.
[09:56] <Tm_T> mark_: no, if you keep repeating ;(
[09:56] <Tm_T> !printer
[09:56] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[09:56] <draik> goodnight all...
[09:56] <noiesmo> draik, nite nite
[09:56] <Jucato> good night draik
[09:56] <draik> intelikey, I hope you find what you need for your computer
[09:56] <Tm_T> intelikey: waylandbill: it's kdelibs-bin package
[09:56] <draik> nite noiesmo
[09:56] <draik> night Jucato
[09:56] <intelikey> draik thanks,  and peace be with you.
[09:57] <draik> night intelikey
[09:57] <Jucato> waylandbill: If you're using Adept, click on Full Upgrade. it's the equivalent of sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:57] <waylandbill> Tm_t: Dist-Upgrade is doing it now. thanks.
[09:57] <draik> or morning/afternoon for whatever your timezone suits you
[09:57] <mark_> i already configure it in gui i but there is      no response on the printer
[09:57] <Tm_T> waylandbill: np, just remember doublecheck what dist-upgrade will do before accept it ;)
[09:57] <noiesmo> mark_, what the make and model of printer plse
[09:58] <intelikey> mark_ it's not paused is it ?     i'm no cups expert by any means but i have seen that problem on my own system.
[09:59] <waylandbill> Tm_t it looks like it's updated the stuff it downloaded.
[09:59] <Tm_T> waylandbill: good
[09:59] <waylandbill> downloaded and held back that is
[10:00] <Jucato> that's good. You'll probably experience a little bump in the road with KAudioCreator later on
[10:00] <Tm_T> hehe
[10:00] <plugs> Okay. I have my shell script. When i type sh script.sh in the terminal, it works. However, i want to be able to run it by clicking on it. I tried telling it to run .sh in Konsole, but when i try that i get some wacky error. what do i do?
[10:00] <intelikey> chmod 755 script.sh
[10:00] <intelikey> make it executable ^
[10:01] <plugs> where do i put that?
[10:01] <unix_infidel> plugs: type it into konsole.
[10:01] <Tm_T> plugs: well, rightclick it, -> properties -> set it as executable or do as intelikey said
[10:01] <plugs> i'll try
[10:01] <uniq> plugs: make it executable. in konsole 'chmod +x file.sh'  or right click with konqueror,properties and permissions tick executable.
[10:01] <intelikey> or right click it and set the properties
[10:01] <plugs> oh i gotcha
[10:01] <Tm_T> =)
[10:01] <unix_infidel> there should be a bot fact for this.
[10:01] <plugs> lemme try that
[10:01] <Tm_T> !exec
[10:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about exec - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:02] <Tm_T> hmh
[10:02] <Tm_T> oh well, doesn't matter :p
[10:02] <plugs> Aw yeah~
[10:02] <unix_infidel> too bad i cant just manifest things in IRC>
[10:02] <intelikey> Tm_T i recall when ubotu was pretty handy.  now days it's a joke bot.
[10:02] <Tm_T> intelikey: indeed
[10:03] <unix_infidel> intelikey: i remember when there were no bots available.
[10:03] <Tm_T> intelikey: just like me ;)
[10:03] <Tm_T> unix_infidel: just dummy users? ;)
[10:03] <intelikey> :)
[10:03] <unix_infidel> Tm_T: the more things change, the more they stay the same.
[10:03] <intelikey> ubotu can you help me ?
[10:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about can you help me ? - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:03] <wckdkl0wn> anyone here use demonoid?
[10:03] <intelikey> ubotu but i dont want to search
[10:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about but i dont want to search - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:04] <unix_infidel> intelikey: write a new box.
[10:04] <unix_infidel> bot*
[10:04] <uniq> what's wrong with ubotu anyway?
[10:04] <intelikey> at least the answer is not random  some newbee could talk to that thing for hours.
[10:05] <intelikey> the owner got tired of it saying what people in the channel told it too and fixed it i guess.
[10:06] <intelikey> ubotu myself
[10:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about myself - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:06] <intelikey> well said ^
[10:06] <Jucato> err...
[10:06] <Jucato> poor bot...
[10:11] <kubuntutaotao> i want to update to kde 3.5.4, and if i use only deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354/ dapper main in sources.list, has it problem?
[10:11] <intelikey> !kde
[10:11] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[10:12] <rikioh> if i did a fresh install of kubuntu do i have the k desktop
[10:12] <intelikey> kubuntutaotao i've seen several doing that lately  i can't answer for sure but i think you would be ok.
[10:12] <intelikey> rikioh yup
[10:13] <intelikey> the K in kubuntu means KDE + ubuntu
[10:13] <rikioh> are there any other programs like adept because i cant ever get it to open anymore
[10:13] <rikioh> it just does nothing
[10:13] <dhq> how do i see my ip address and incoming(download) and out going(upload) speed monitor
[10:13] <intelikey> synaptic
[10:13] <uniq> !adept crash fix > rikioh
[10:14] <Jucato> I've noticed something strange with KDE 3.5.4, but I can't verify if it's only on  my system. Something with the media:/ KIO slave
[10:14] <kubuntutaotao> intelikey: ok,i will try it
[10:15] <intelikey> rikioh on the cli  aptitude & apt    are frontends to dpkg = the debian package manager
[10:15] <uniq> Jucato: can you be more specific about what you've noticed?
[10:16] <rikioh> crash thing didnt help :(
[10:16] <uniq> are you in the admin group?
[10:16] <rikioh> im the only user on this computer
[10:16] <rikioh> i live alone :)
[10:16] <uniq> does it work if you go to kmenu -> run command -> type 'kdesu adept' an run?
[10:17] <Jucato> Sorry, I was typing somewhere else. media:/ no longer showed unmounted drives/partitions. However, it also doesn't show the drives/partitions when I mount them, even if they're mounted correctly (checked in /media). Removable media still behave normally.
[10:17] <intelikey> rikioh that doesnt matter, are you in the admin group ?     type groups   to find out
[10:17] <intelikey> you can test sudo with the simple test  sudo echo yes || echo no
[10:18] <rikioh> groups isnt doing anything
[10:18] <rikioh> its like its frozen or something
[10:18] <uniq> check with 'id' then.
[10:18] <cwraig> im a big fan of passwd root (your root password here) then you can just su
[10:19] <rikioh> thers a bunch of groups
[10:19] <uniq> rikioh: if you're the user added during install,  you're in the admin group.
[10:19] <rikioh> it says my name as a group and then thers another one for admin
[10:19] <intelikey> cwraig i'm  a big fan of init scripts that open a root console for me  :)
[10:19] <rikioh> !pastebin
[10:19] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:20] <uniq> rikioh: good, then you're in the admin group.
[10:20] <rikioh> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19760
[10:20] <uniq> rikioh: did kmenu -> run command -> type 'kdesu adept' an run?
[10:20] <uniq> rikioh: do anything?
[10:21] <intelikey> you can test sudo with the simple test;                                                                                                                sudo echo yes || echo no
[10:21] <rikioh> when i ran sudo thats what i got uniq
[10:21] <rikioh> kdesu adept
[10:21] <rikioh> or w/e
[10:21] <rikioh> look at the pastebin
[10:21] <uniq> opening..
[10:24] <rikioh> what does that mean?
[10:25] <Jucato> hmm... a lot of people seem to be getting that error message lately.
[10:25] <rikioh> should i just reboot and try again?
[10:26] <jackle> morning people
[10:26] <ke> morning
[10:28] <jackle> I'm trying to update my kubuntu 606 with adept (dpkg errors), but is getting errors. apt-get upgrade throws 404 file not found. What do you need from me? And what can I possible do?
[10:28] <kane___> jackle: you may need to do apt-get update first
[10:28] <jackle> Did that
[10:28] <shadeofgrey> hello
[10:29] <shadeofgrey> for the record my name is Chris
[10:29] <shadeofgrey> im an avid ubuntu user but was looking to try something new so i chose kubuntu... would someone please provide me with the following information:
[10:29] <rikioh> ok adept is open now
[10:30] <shadeofgrey> 1)  How does one install packages with KDE?  is apt still valid here or no?  If not then how do i install Nvidia drivers so i have 3d support and how do i install koffice?
[10:30] <ke> shadeofgrey, just install the kde-desktop
[10:30] <shadeofgrey> i think i did
[10:30] <rob> shadeofgrey, everything you need to know is on http://help.ubuntu.com
[10:31] <shadeofgrey> doesnt the defaulty installation of kubuntu come with KDE desktop already installed?
[10:31] <gatekeeper> jackle, sounds like it can't find a repo 404 errors are the error you get when you browse to a non-existant web site
[10:31] <DHGE> shadeofgrey: U might try Synaptic - more newbie-friendly ;-)
[10:31] <shadeofgrey> i know how to use synaptic
[10:31] <shadeofgrey> how do i install that?
[10:31] <DHGE> shadeofgrey: install synaptic??
[10:31] <gatekeeper> shadeofgrey, apt-get install synaptic
[10:31] <jackle> gatekeeper: would disabling a repo work?
[10:32] <rikioh> what can i use for wmv play back cuz caffein fails to load some wmv.dll  and i downloaded kmplayer and it just says player xine not running
[10:32] <jackle> rikioh:  mplayer w32codecs
[10:33] <gatekeeper> jackle, might get rid of the error, if it does you know that is what the problem is, the repo is down of whatever
[10:33] <ciusbet> hi dudes
[10:33] <rob> shadeofgrey, https://help.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/add-applications.html
[10:33] <rikioh> jackle is it called something else cuz i cant find that
[10:33] <jackle> gatekeeper: tx
[10:33] <ciusbet> i could install Win XP and Kubuntu yeeeeeeeeah
[10:33] <gatekeeper> jackle, hang on...
[10:33] <jackle> rikioh: search for w32codecs in adept
[10:33] <jackle> gatekeeper: k
[10:34] <ciusbet> one thing
[10:34] <ciusbet> its possible install an aplication download and extracting it on a folder?
[10:35] <gatekeeper> jackle, does this work? wget -c http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[10:35] <ciusbet> or only using apt
[10:35] <jackle> gatekeeper: jip
[10:36] <Jucato> jackie: w32codecs can't be found in Adept or any repository. you have to download the .deb directly from somewhere (looks at gatekeeper)
[10:36] <intelikey> anyone know why grub-install /dev/hda   it pukes out "Unknown partition table signature" < X5  and then "The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly."     got any insight on that ?      repost for new arivals
[10:37] <noiesmo> libxine-extracodecs for mp3
[10:37] <intelikey> vlc
[10:37] <gatekeeper> Jucato, they can from the PLF repos here :-) http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories
[10:37] <jackle> Jucato: I've added additional repositories from ubuntu
[10:37] <noiesmo> universe or multiverse not sure but both are handy repos
[10:38] <Jucato> Well, it can't be found in the Ubuntu repos. :-D
[10:38] <shadeofgrey> this kde thing is much prettier and morepolished than the gnome edition of ubuntu
[10:38] <shadeofgrey> man....
[10:38] <shadeofgrey> i might end up a KDE convert
[10:38] <gatekeeper> Jucato, true because of legal problems
[10:38] <jackle> Jucato: go to Kmenu, run, "adept" , password , enable multiverse en universe repositories, type in searchbar "w32co" ... the codecs will be there
[10:38] <shadeofgrey> do i need to do anything really special to enable dvd  playback capabilities?
[10:39] <shadeofgrey> is adept the same thing assynaptic?
[10:39] <Jucato> err... I know how to do that. I was just pointing out that if rikioh didn't have the extra repos, he/she won't find w32codecs. :-P
[10:39] <gatekeeper> jackle, did that command work?
[10:39] <jackle> gatekeeper: the wget command did work
[10:39] <Jucato> shadeofgrey: Adept and Synaptic are slightly, oh so very slightly, similar
[10:40] <gatekeeper> jackle, sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[10:40] <intelikey> !info w32codecs
[10:40] <ubotu> Package w32codecs does not exist in dapper
[10:40] <shadeofgrey> but they're both designed to do tghe same trhing right?
[10:40] <paines> hi
[10:40] <shadeofgrey> and w32codecs DOES exist in dapper but you have to enable the Seveas repo
[10:41] <intelikey> lol  ubotu   it does.   silly bot.
[10:41] <Jucato> yep, but they do it quite differently
[10:41] <jackle> gatekeeper: yes.. but I already have w32codecs, the help was for rikioh
[10:41] <shadeofgrey> and i say again...  do i have to do anythiung special to get dvd playback going?
[10:41] <nysosym> hi all
[10:41] <imbrandon> !info w32codecs seveas-dapper
[10:41] <ubotu> Package w32codecs does not exist in dapper
[10:41] <shadeofgrey> and what are the mp3 plsayers available for kde?
[10:41] <imbrandon> !info w32codecs dapper-seveas
[10:41] <ubotu> w32codecs: win32 binary codecs. In repository Seveas, is optional. Version 1:20060611-0.0 (dapper-seveas), package size 13911 kB, installed size 33488 kB
[10:41] <imbrandon> ^^
[10:42] <Jucato> hmm... poor bot...
[10:42] <rikioh> so i gotta activate seaves repo?
[10:42] <intelikey> i don't have any special repos enabled but the w32codecs show up in apt-cache search w32codecs
[10:42] <nysosym> i have a big problem but first my system runs with kubuntu 6.06 and KDE3.5.4. My Problem is, that k3b doesn't start, can anyone help me please?
[10:42] <Jucato> rikioh: or you could just download it manually from the link that gatekeeper gave
[10:42] <Healot> !seveas > rikioh
[10:42] <intelikey> i don't know why the bot is set to lie about it.  copy right issues i suspose
[10:42] <Jucato> intelikey: it shows up in  your apt-cache because it's already installed on your system, right?
[10:42] <gatekeeper> !sevas > gatekeeper
[10:42] <ubotu> I know nothing about sevas  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:43] <intelikey> Jucato i don't think it is.   i'll check.
[10:43] <gatekeeper>  !seveas > gatekeeper
[10:43] <intelikey> Jucato ooops my bad i do have it installed.
[10:44] <gatekeeper> helps when I can type doh
[10:44] <Jucato> hehe ^_^
[10:44] <rikioh> gatekeeper the  command you gave me dont work
[10:44] <intelikey> forgot about installing that...    and never use it....
[10:44] <shadeofgrey> okay more questionms
[10:44] <rikioh> dpkg: error processing w32 codecs...blahblah.deb (--install):
[10:44] <gatekeeper> rikioh, which one?
[10:44] <shadeofgrey> 1)  now that ive downlioaded firfox hoe do i make it the default browser?
[10:45] <Jucato> shadeofgrey: in Kubuntu?
[10:45] <rikioh> sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[10:45] <intelikey> shadeofgrey if you do you are loosing out on all the konq specials
[10:45] <shadeofgrey> juc:  yes
[10:45] <shadeofgrey> int:  like what?
[10:45] <intelikey> konq is intergrated
[10:45] <shadeofgrey> what makes konqueror so special?
[10:46] <intelikey> learn to use it and you'll see.
[10:46] <Healot> it konquer :)
[10:46] <gatekeeper> rikioh, did you try wget -c http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[10:46] <Jucato> like: KIO slaves, split views, embedded viewers, integration w/ the desktop to name a few
[10:46] <Jucato> full customizability, keyboard shortcuts, integration with KDE Wallet Manager
[10:46] <rikioh> i clicked the link and its loading in ark
[10:46] <rikioh> i dont know what to do when it does lol
[10:47] <shadeofgrey> okay is there a kdemailk program like thunderbird?
[10:47] <uniq> kmail
[10:47] <Jucato> rikioh: don't click on it. right-click on it and choose Kubuntu Package Menu > Install
[10:47] <Jucato> shadeofgrey: even better. KMail is just the mail program, but you can use it within Kontact, the whole PIM suite
[10:47] <Jucato> suit*
[10:47] <rikioh> i dont have that option
[10:48] <rikioh> package menu
[10:48] <intelikey> kmail  lacked most of the bells and whistles   but is very useful for my needs.
[10:48] <shadeofgrey> kmail doesnt seem to be present
[10:48] <shadeofgrey> its not in the list anyway
[10:48] <shadeofgrey> of installed apps
[10:48] <Jucato> you won't see the menu entry for KMail but it's there. Try launching Kontact and you will see it
[10:49] <intelikey> it's default app    check the terminal  kmail [enter] 
[10:49] <Jucato> you could still launch it by itself by pressing Alt+F2 and typiing in "kmail"
[10:50] <shadeofgrey> jesus....  280 meg in updates already
[10:50] <gatekeeper> Healot, are the SeveasPackages any more up to date than the PLF repos?
[10:50] <ciusbet>  i have a doubt
[10:50] <intelikey> what are the   #blah   and  !blah  things in the konq address bar again ?
[10:50] <Jucato> KIO slaves?
[10:50] <Ace2007> How do i get get konsole to show me what qtdir is?
[10:50] <paines> echo $QTDIR
[10:51] <ciusbet> its possible download a tar.gzip file, unpack it and install without using apt?
[10:51] <Healot> gatekeeper, i don't enough information on that
[10:51] <Ace2007> paines: thanks
[10:51] <Jucato> intelikey: are you asking for the KIO slaves?
[10:51] <intelikey> /exec -o echo $QTDIR
[10:51] <gatekeeper> Healot, fair enough, just curious
[10:51] <Ace2007> How do i set $QTDIR?
[10:51] <ciusbet> hi?
[10:51] <intelikey> Jucato where it interfaces the man pages and stuff like that ???
[10:52] <Jucato> man:/, info:/, media:/, system:/, home:/, apt:/ (my personal favorite)
[10:52] <intelikey> Ace2007 you can export ANYTHING="anything you want it to be"
[10:53] <Ace2007> ok thanks
[10:53] <paines> Ace2007, export QTDIR=/yourdir
[10:53] <intelikey> thought there was a short form   #command   for the man command   or something like that
[10:53] <Ace2007> thanks
[10:53] <Jucato> man:/insert_command_here
[10:53] <Jucato> like man:/sudo
[10:54] <ciusbet> its possible download a tar.gzip file, unpack it and install without using apt? ::DD
[10:54] <plugs> how good is Wine?
[10:54] <intelikey> plugs red or white ?
[10:54] <Jucato> ciusbet: yes, but you will probably have to compile it yourself
[10:54] <intelikey> it's pretty good but not as good as cadega
[10:54] <plugs> red. i can't stand white
[10:54] <ciusbet> jucato thx
[10:55] <noiesmo> any netjuke users here
[10:55] <ciusbet> but there are, "binary files"
[10:55] <ciusbet> in tar.gzip
[10:55] <ciusbet> but i cant execute it
[10:55] <intelikey> extract then execute
[10:56] <ciusbet> nothing happens
[10:56] <ciusbet> for example
[10:56] <Jucato> ciusbet:  what are you trying to install anyway?
[10:56] <ciusbet> amsn, but now i've installed with adept
[10:56] <ciusbet> but i would like know how to install without it
[10:57] <ciusbet> i've downloaded tar.gzip file for linux
[10:57] <ciusbet> i've extracted in a folder
[10:57] <Jucato> and what does it contain?
[10:57] <ciusbet> mm
[10:57] <ciusbet> so files
[10:57] <ciusbet> bin files
[10:58] <ciusbet> and folders
[10:58] <intelikey> ciusbet normally installing from a tarball means compiling the software your self.   if you have never compiled anything before,  start small.  don't build a kernel the first attempt.
[10:58] <ciusbet> well, im newbie with linux
[10:58] <ciusbet> but i am programmer
[10:58] <ciusbet> i am not newbie at all :D
[10:58] <Healot> ciusbet, how about calling yourself a migrator :)
[10:59] <Jucato> ciusbet: maybe this can help: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/installingsoftware.php
[10:59] <Jucato> it has some very basic instructions about the different ways of installing software
[10:59] <ciusbet> oh lot of thx
[10:59] <ciusbet> ;)
[10:59] <intelikey> ciusbet building from tarballs generally consists  of something like this.   tar -xzf tarball.tgz ;cd tarball/ ;./configure ;make ;sudo make install     <--- where  ; is a new line
[11:00] <ciusbet> aha
[11:00] <ciusbet> i see
[11:00] <ciusbet> thx intelikey
[11:01] <Ed_L> probably a dumb question, but what's the Konsole equivilent to tracert in windows?
[11:01] <gatekeeper> ciusbet, sounds like you where trying to do things the hard way
[11:01] <ciusbet> ehm yes
[11:01] <intelikey> but any given tarball may have special scripts in it.   and README files    like   INSTALL  would be a readme (all caps)   and  userinstall.sh  would be and install script.
[11:01] <ciusbet> aha
[11:01] <uniq> Ed_L: traceroute, you might have to install it first. 'sudo apt-get install traceroute'
[11:01] <Jucato> he's just trying to learn. he said he already installed aMSN through Adept
[11:01] <Ed_L> thanks
[11:01] <ciusbet> this is my first time using ubuntu
[11:01] <ciusbet> but
[11:02] <ciusbet> i love learn
[11:02] <gatekeeper> ciusbet, some usefull bit & pieces http://za1012001.googlepages.com/home
[11:02] <ciusbet> and i see that all of you love learn, and help a lot :D
[11:02] <gatekeeper> ciusbet, something I threw together
[11:02] <intelikey> Ed_L traceroute    or tracepath   both are linux standards.
[11:02] <locoblade> I have kubuntu on a small partition on an external harddrive, it was booting up fine but now it wont?
[11:03] <ciusbet> thx gatekeeper
[11:03] <ciusbet> :)
[11:03] <locoblade> the only thing that changed was I copied a load of files onto the other partition on the drive (windows)
[11:03] <intelikey> !cli
[11:03] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[11:03] <intelikey> ciusbet and Ed_L the link is for you ^
[11:03] <gatekeeper> ciusbet, yw :-) always like to help a fellow programmer
[11:04] <ciusbet> hehe :D:D
[11:04] <ciusbet> nice ppl in this channel
[11:04] <ciusbet> i love linux and linux users
[11:04] <locoblade> jaja yeah
[11:04] <ciusbet> :D
[11:04] <Ed_L> indeed :)
[11:04] <locoblade> i agree with that
[11:04] <Jucato> :-D
[11:04] <locoblade> i would have thought they'd be tired of me by now
[11:04] <gatekeeper> another convert :-)
[11:04] <ciusbet> now i will become a free programmer
[11:04] <intelikey> ciusbet :)        you'll get over it quickly enough...
[11:05] <Jucato> one step closer to world domination!!! ehehe
[11:05] <ciusbet> i hope that
[11:05] <ciusbet> well, excuse me all my bad english
[11:05] <Jucato> ciusbet: I might be joining your ranks soon :-D
[11:05] <ciusbet> im spanish
[11:05] <shadeofgrey> okay guys
[11:05] <shadeofgrey> i need more help
[11:05] <ciusbet> :D
[11:05] <intelikey> ciusbet ah  there is also a #ubuntu-es   you might check out.  :)
[11:06] <gatekeeper> ciusbet, are there many spanish programming jobs, would not mind moving, language is my only problem at the moment
[11:06] <shadeofgrey> 1.)  How do I set up my kubuntu system to automatically mount my secondary disk that holds all my mp3s and stuff so i can listen tio my music
[11:06] <locoblade> spains a lovely place
[11:06] <shadeofgrey> furthermore whats the best mp3 player for this os?
[11:06] <ciusbet> ubuntu-es nice nice
[11:06] <uniq> shadeofgrey: amarok is the best mp3 player.
[11:06] <locoblade> shade I like xmms
[11:06] <gatekeeper> !fstab shadeofgrey
[11:06] <intelikey> shadeofgrey add a line in /etc/fstab     man fstab
[11:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about fstab shadeofgrey - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:07] <ciusbet> i will use both channels
[11:07] <gatekeeper> !fstab > shadeofgrey
[11:07] <ciusbet> i like learn english too
[11:07] <ciusbet> :D
[11:07] <gatekeeper> ooops
[11:07] <intelikey> !vlc
[11:07] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[11:07] <ciusbet> thx all
[11:07] <shadeofgrey> 2.)  How do i change the default color scheme in koffice -- i cant stand white background
[11:07] <Jucato> shadeofgrey: launch System Settings and go to Disks & Filesystem
[11:07] <shadeofgrey> i have glaucoma and that hurts my eyes like hell
[11:08] <intelikey> shadeofgrey and the phrase 'best blah' is not a linux term.   best is subjective.   linux lives in diversity land.  so best is not a linux term.
[11:08] <locoblade> anyone have any idea why linux would stop booting off a usb harddrive?
[11:08] <ciusbet> now i'll try to install Gambas
[11:08] <ciusbet> and nvidia-gxl
[11:08] <ciusbet> glx
[11:08] <Jucato> shadeofgrey: Enter Administrator mode. Look for the partition you want to mount automatically. Right-click it and choose modify, then check the "enable at boot" option (or was it enable at startup?)
[11:09] <intelikey> locoblade pluged into the same port ?
[11:09] <locoblade> the partition is still set to active under disk management in windows
[11:09] <shadeofgrey> hoiw do i enter administrator mode
[11:09] <locoblade> yeah
[11:09] <intelikey> locoblade idk.
[11:09] <Jucato> shadeofgrey: click on the Administrator Mode button. it will ask for your password
[11:09] <locoblade> hmm
[11:10] <intelikey> locoblade what does it do ?
[11:10] <shadeofgrey> wheres the admin mode buttomn?
[11:10] <gatekeeper> shadeofgrey, sudo from the cli or kdesu if you are running a gui program like kate
[11:10] <locoblade> it just boots into the os on the main harddrive as if the usb one wasnt plugged in
[11:10] <Jucato> shadeofgrey: supposedly at the bottom of the window
[11:11] <intelikey> locoblade only thing i would know to check would be the bios.
[11:11] <gatekeeper> shadeofgrey, cli does not give any feedback when entering passwords
[11:11] <locoblade> the last time kubuntu came up it just hang at one point in the bootup sequence
[11:11] <locoblade> something about root
[11:11] <locoblade> and then nothing
[11:12] <locoblade> the bios is definitely not the problem
[11:12] <intelikey> unable to mount root partition blah blah blah  ?
[11:12] <locoblade> could be
[11:12] <locoblade> i knew i should have written it down
[11:12] <locoblade> it was late so i just went to bed
[11:12] <locoblade> now I've forgotten what it said
[11:12] <shadeofgrey> i dont see administrator mode anywhere
[11:12] <shadeofgrey> how do i launch it from cmdlijne?
[11:13] <shadeofgrey> im really sorry everybody. i have no idea how to use kde at all
[11:13] <gatekeeper> shadeofgrey, launch what?
[11:13] <intelikey> well that sujests a change in the bios addressing or (and this is the one you don't want)  the usb cradle/hd dying.
[11:13] <Jucato> gatekeeper: I was instructing him to launch System Settings > Disks & Filesystems
[11:13] <locoblade> usb hd is working fine, im using it now
[11:14] <gatekeeper> Jucato, I will leave you to it then :-) sorry
[11:14] <intelikey> i only know what it sujests. locoblade
[11:14] <Jucato> gatekeeper: no it's ok. I'm not perfect :-P
[11:14] <shadeofgrey> okay i found the right place finally
[11:14] <intelikey> there are always other posobilities
[11:14] <locoblade> i dont blame you intel :)
[11:15] <Jucato> shadeofgrey: you found the button?
[11:15] <locoblade> what I'm thinking is after booting back into windows and copying those files that windows changed something on the harddrive so it wont boot
[11:16] <intelikey> possable   possably    possability     crap i can't spell that.
[11:16] <locoblade> you know the way windows is
[11:16] <shadeofgrey> yeah now i see the disk that i want to enable at bootup its in a list
[11:16] <shadeofgrey> i shouild double click it right?
[11:16] <intelikey> hehhe i'm going looking for ispell.....
[11:16] <Jucato> shadeofgrey: right-click
[11:17] <shadeofgrey> it says modify or delete
[11:17] <shadeofgrey> i want modify yes?
[11:17] <Jucato> shadeofgrey: yes modify
[11:17] <locoblade> have you any ideas gatekeeper?
[11:18] <shadeofgrey> nothings happening
[11:18] <intelikey> there are always other possibilities       <--- may not be able to spell it but i can script a spell checker into it   lol
[11:18] <Jucato> shadeofgrey: a dialog box should pop up
[11:18] <locoblade> yeah im sure it's really simple
[11:19] <locoblade> and i think that was the right spelling :)
[11:19] <shadeofgrey> its not working
[11:19] <intelikey> yes (possibility) is spelled correctly.
[11:19] <locoblade> haha
[11:20] <intelikey> /bin/sh: ---: No such file or directory
[11:20] <Jucato> shadeofgrey: wait, have you been able to mount it before?
[11:20] <intelikey>  /spell possibility   <--- this yelds ^ that
[11:20] <shadeofgrey> yeah sure
[11:20] <shadeofgrey> i mount it all the time in regular ubuntu
[11:20] <Jucato> is it mounted now?
[11:20] <locoblade> is shade having the same problem as me?
[11:20] <locoblade> lol
[11:20] <gatekeeper> locoblade, most likely your file system has got corrupted, assuming the USB still works ok
[11:21] <locoblade> yeah thats really what it looks like
[11:21] <locoblade> why would that happen?
[11:21] <ciusbet> when i install something with apt, i must restart?
[11:21] <locoblade> just x-server
[11:21] <Jucato> ciusbet: nope. not unless you installed/upgraded a new kernel
[11:21] <ciusbet> jucato, ok
[11:21] <ciusbet> but, i cant find the new software
[11:22] <locoblade> ciusbet you need to log out and restart x-server
[11:22] <ciusbet> aah ook locoblade
[11:22] <Jucato> ciusbet:  err... it's one of Kubuntu's bugs, I think
[11:22] <shadeofgrey> okay if i try and mount the disk i get the error "cant find /dev/hdb1 in etc/fstab"
[11:22] <locoblade> it comes up after you do that in the menu
[11:22] <Jucato> ciusbet: what did you install, btw?
[11:22] <ciusbet> thanks
[11:22] <ciusbet> i0ve installed
[11:22] <ciusbet> i've installed
[11:22] <gatekeeper> locoblade, that sort of thing can happen at any time, may be a bad piece of memory on your USB stick, or something manged to somehow write when it shouldn't
[11:22] <ciusbet> Gambas software
[11:22] <ciusbet> and nvidia glx
[11:22] <shadeofgrey> what do i need to do to add the drive to my fstab list?
[11:23] <intelikey> ciusbet kernel has to be booted.  xorg   or kde would need a restart of the x server or logout and back in.    everything else  with the exception of something like  libc   would be ready for use upon install
[11:23] <aegeanlinux> hey MilhousePunkRock, hows it going ?
[11:23] <locoblade> gate it's not the first time it's happened
[11:23] <intelikey> this is not M$ reboot
[11:23] <Jucato> ah you do need to restart X
[11:23] <ciusbet> aaha
[11:23] <ciusbet> heeheh
[11:23] <locoblade> it's about the 3rd time this same problem has ccurred
[11:23] <locoblade> and it doesnt take long
[11:23] <ciusbet> ok i'll do it
[11:23] <ciusbet> txh
[11:24] <Jucato> err... I'm not an expert in adding fstab entries. Mine's a mess
[11:24] <locoblade> the thing is i was booting off it fine and restarting and booting
[11:24] <locoblade> no problems
[11:24] <MilhousePunkRock> Hey aegeanlinux! Everything's fine here, I just installed additional 256 MB RAM in my Laptop... :-D
[11:24] <Jucato> can someone help shadeofgrey? I'm no fstab expert...
[11:24] <intelikey> Jucato fstab is pretty streight forward    what you need.
[11:24] <intelikey> ?
[11:24] <aegeanlinux> Yeah? Is it more stable now?
[11:24] <locoblade> then as soon as i take it back into windows to copy a few files onto a ntfs partition then this happens
[11:24] <Jucato> intelikey: not me, shadeofgrey
[11:24] <aegeanlinux> MilhousePunkRock: Is it like a rock ?
[11:24] <gatekeeper> locoblade, keep a backup of what's on it then just go to your backup when it happens, maybe time to buy another USB stick, or pay carefull attention to what you are doing when it happens in an attept to locate the problem
[11:25] <locoblade> yeah
[11:25] <intelikey> shadeofgrey give me the specs if you know them,   i'll give you a line for the fstab
[11:25] <DHGE> shadeofgrey: boot a live CD - look at the fstab that will be generated - save the line you are interested in - implant that line in ypour fstab
[11:25] <MilhousePunkRock> aegeanlinux: Actually I don't really notice a big difference yet... Except that progams start a lot faster...
[11:25] <locoblade> would windows change stuff on it so that it wouldn't boot?
[11:25] <intelikey> if you don't know them  i'll give you some commands to run to find them.
[11:25] <uniq> shadeofgrey: is it /dev/hdb1 ? what is the filesystem? where do you want to mount it?
[11:25] <aegeanlinux> MilhousePunkRock: is that not a good enough reason in itself ?
[11:26] <Ace2007> Hi again, i'm trying to compile vlc but it won't find qt: i've used "export QTDIR=/usr/share/qt3" and "./configure  --enable-qte  --with-qte=/usr/share/qt3"  but it still says:    checking for qt.h... no                     configure: error: echo "Cannot find QT Embedded development headers."
[11:26] <shadeofgrey> yeah its dev/hdb1 -- but the problem is i cant remember what type of filesystem it is.  it might be ext2 or 3
[11:26] <gatekeeper> locoblade, you booting from the stick and running linux?
[11:26] <intelikey> Ace2007 why compile vlc ?  it's in the repos.
[11:26] <locoblade> it seems like there's a little switch that's been pushed so that the drive wont boot
[11:26] <locoblade> yeah
[11:26] <shadeofgrey> okayt heres what i did in regular ubuntu
[11:26] <aegeanlinux> Ace2007: are you trying to build with QT or QTE ??
[11:27] <shadeofgrey> i created a directory called /mnt/filedump/
[11:27] <intelikey> shadeofgrey run this      fdisk -l /dev/hdb
[11:27] <Ace2007> intelikey: The new version has flv support and i've added wmv9 playback
[11:27] <aegeanlinux> because you should say --enable-qt --disable-qte
[11:27] <MilhousePunkRock> aegeanlinux: That's probably the biggest change, yeah. It felt as if it booted a little faster too, but that might just have been imagination
[11:27] <aegeanlinux> qte is for mobile devices ;)
[11:27] <shadeofgrey> then i mounted the disk every time the sysstem booted by hand --all i had to do was go in through Administrate->Disks
[11:27] <uniq> Ace2007: do you have libqt3-mt-dev installed?
[11:27] <Ace2007> aegeanlinux: There is a difference?
[11:27] <Ace2007> uniq: yup
[11:27] <aegeanlinux> qte is for Linux hand helds ;) so yes Ace2007
[11:27] <intelikey> Ace2007 ah ok.
[11:28] <Ace2007> aegeanlinux: I'll try that now
[11:28] <aegeanlinux> KK ;)
[11:28] <gatekeeper> locoblade, not likely
[11:29] <locoblade> ok
[11:29] <shadeofgrey> okay i tried the fdisk command that didnt wiork
[11:29] <shadeofgrey> it said cannot open hdb1
[11:29] <aegeanlinux> Ace2007: does it configure?
[11:29] <locoblade> so what would you do?
[11:29] <Jucato> shadeofgrey: try fdisk -l  (small letter L)
[11:29] <intelikey> shadeofgrey not hdb1        fdisk -l /dev/hdb
[11:30] <shadeofgrey> its not hdb -- its hdb1
[11:30] <uniq> shadeofgrey: ok, you can mount it manually the way you alway do. then open konsole and run 'mount', then you will get a list of all mounted partitions and their filesytems.
[11:30] <intelikey> if you don't want help, i can take a hint.
[11:30] <gyuszi> hello! can someone please tell me how do i set the konqueror window to remember the size and position?
[11:30] <gatekeeper> locoblade, keep a close eye on it see if you see a pattern, if you have a backup then that will be the fastest way to get back up and running
[11:30] <locoblade> thats kind of a roundabout solution
[11:30] <shadeofgrey> the problm with mounting manually is i dont know what kind of filedsystem it is
[11:30] <shadeofgrey> hang on
[11:31] <Jucato> gyuszi: press Alt+F3 > Advanced > Special Window Settings
[11:31] <locoblade> i mean the same thing has happened with different size partitions in different locations on the disk
[11:31] <gyuszi> 10x
[11:31] <uniq> shadeofgrey: when you know what filesystem it is, this is the line you need to add to fstab: "/dev/hdb1 /mnt/filedump ext3 defaults 0 0" (given ext3 is your filesystem. replace 3 with 2 if you have ext2).
[11:31] <Jucato> gyuszi: the in the geometry tab, check Position and Size and set them to remember
[11:31] <shadeofgrey> okay nothing happened with fdisk -l
[11:32] <Ace2007> aegeanlinux: Thanks it configured
[11:32] <locoblade> and as far as I see as soon as I load into windows something happens
[11:32] <aegeanlinux> :D Ace2007, now you learnt something :D
[11:32] <locoblade> so that it wont boot from the usb drive again
[11:32] <locoblade> windows is on a sata harddrive on the actual computer btw
[11:32] <locoblade> not the usb one
[11:32] <shadeofgrey> where is fstab located again?
[11:33] <uniq> shadeofgrey: /etc/fstab
[11:33] <Jucato> shadeofgrey: /etc/fstab
[11:33] <aegeanlinux>  /etc/fstab
[11:33] <aegeanlinux> lol
[11:33] <intelikey> shadeofgrey must not be hdb     try    sudo fdisk -l     <--- that should list all partitions  search through the output.
[11:33] <Jucato> :-D
[11:33] <w00t> hello
[11:33] <w00t> i need some help
[11:33] <w00t> :)
[11:33] <Ace2007> aegeanlinux: Yup sure did, i wish i'd have asked two days ago
[11:33] <w00t> i want to install wine
[11:33] <intelikey> shadeofgrey /etc/fstab
[11:33] <w00t> some one tell  me i hve to type apt-get install wine
[11:34] <aegeanlinux> Ace2007: I am always in #AegeanLinux ;)
[11:34] <w00t> that realy don't work
[11:34] <shadeofgrey> okay -- /dev/hdb1               1      238216   120060832+  83  Linux
[11:34] <intelikey> shadeofgrey you can specify   'auto'   for the filesystem type in fstab.
[11:34] <Jucato> shadeofgrey: it's ext3 AFAIK (83 Linux right?)
[11:34] <uniq> shadeofgrey: fdisk doesn't know anything about filesystems, only partition types. Do as i told you earlier.
[11:34] <w00t> i have downloaded it
[11:34] <shadeofgrey> id is 83
[11:34] <aegeanlinux> Ace2007: Feel free to send me a Logitec G-15 Keyboard for me helping  you :P
[11:34] <intelikey> if it's ext2 it will mount ext2 if it's ext3 it will mount ext3   if it's rieserfs.....
[11:35] <intelikey> use auto
[11:35] <w00t> but i don't know what to do ow?
[11:35] <w00t> can any body help me?
[11:35] <shadeofgrey> okay hang on
[11:35] <RawSewage> sudo apt-get install wine
[11:35] <locoblade> well thanks to all for the help
[11:35] <Jucato> w00t: you can only apt-get wine if you have the universe repository enabled
[11:35] <shadeofgrey> how do i edit /etc/fstab "kate /etc/fstab" ??
[11:36] <Jucato> shadeofgrey: right-click on fstab, Actions > Edit as Root
[11:36] <locoblade> gate i'll try that backup idea and hopefully really pinpoint the problem
[11:36] <intelikey> shadeofgreay like this.               echo '/dev/hdb1 /mnt/filedump auto defaults 0 0 ' > sudo tee /etc/fstab
[11:36] <intelikey> put that line in a terminal.
[11:36] <locoblade> you'd enjoy spain too it's a nice place :)
[11:36] <RawSewage> Thats something I recommend for Edgy...  Easier way to enable Universe/Multiverse
[11:36] <uniq> intelikey: that will not work.
[11:36] <Ace2007> aegeanlinux: Thats one NICE keyboard
[11:36] <intelikey> uniq and why not ?
[11:37] <uniq> intelikey: you can't use > there.
[11:37] <w00t> how can i get universe repositoro?
[11:37] <intelikey> err i see   |
[11:37] <aegeanlinux> Ace2007: I know, $130.
[11:37] <intelikey> yes  |
[11:37] <intelikey> shadeofgreay like this.               echo '/dev/hdb1 /mnt/filedump auto defaults 0 0 ' | sudo tee /etc/fstab
[11:37] <aegeanlinux> Ace2007: I hope I get it for my 16th birthday
[11:37] <intelikey> they are just so close togather.....
[11:37] <RawSewage> Ive spent about an hour explaining 20 times how to enable universe/multiverse
[11:37] <aegeanlinux> for all the free help i give , *hint*  *hint*
[11:37] <RawSewage> it's too hard
[11:37] <RawSewage> it should be easier
[11:37] <shadeofgrey> now im all types of confused
[11:38] <uniq> intelikey: and suggesting using that kind of method without backing up fstab is evil. if it overwrites everything..
[11:38] <RawSewage> it's not hard, it's just... not easy
[11:38] <shadeofgrey> somebody just give me the line i have to put into etc/fstab and ill edit it manually
[11:38] <uniq> intelikey: append is very similar to replace.
[11:38] <Jucato> w00t: launch Adept (from K Menu > System) and go to the Adept menu (first one to the left)
[11:38] <admin__> is there some script or program that will auto create an /etc/fstab file ?
[11:38] <uniq> using a text editor is the most secure way of editing fstab and other important config files.
[11:39] <shadeofgrey> yeah i have ity open
[11:39] <Jucato> w00t: then choose "Manage Repositories"
[11:39] <shadeofgrey> now what does the line need to be uniq?
[11:39] <shadeofgrey> and does it matter where i put it?
[11:39] <uniq> shadeofgrey: at the bottom on a new line: '/dev/hdb1 /mnt/filedump ext3 defaults 0 0'
[11:40] <intelikey> uniq fstab is an important config  ???       hehhe   yeah.
[11:40] <uniq> intelikey: yes?
[11:40] <w00t> what must i do here?
[11:41] <shadeofgrey> okay now i  reboot
[11:41] <intelikey> where is here w00t ?
[11:41] <uniq> shadeofgrey: no.
[11:41] <uniq> shadeofgrey: don't reboot yet.
[11:41] <intelikey> this is not M$ reboot.
[11:41] <uniq> shadeofgrey: try to manually mount it first.
[11:41] <gatekeeper> RawSewage, knock up a little web site like I did here is one page --> http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories
[11:41] <w00t> in manage Repositories
[11:41] <intelikey> sudo mount -a
[11:41] <Jucato> w00t: look for the line "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe" where xx is your local server (like us. or uk. etc)
[11:41] <uniq> shadeofgrey: in konsole: 'sudo mount /mnt/filedump'
[11:41] <intelikey> -a
[11:42] <Jucato> w00t: if it's grayed out, it's disabled. Right-click on it, then choose enable
[11:42] <RawSewage> gatekeeper, cool, thanks.  I needed a tip to add to my blog
[11:42] <intelikey> that will test if it would mount at boot time.
[11:42] <intelikey> uniq ^
[11:43] <uniq> intelikey: i know it will, noauto isn't one of the options.
[11:43] <shadeofgrey> mount: /dev/hdb1 already mounted or /mnt/filedump busy
[11:43] <shadeofgrey> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hdb1 is already mounted on /mnt/filedump
[11:43] <gatekeeper> RawSewage, I have just been collecting things that people might find usefull like transition guides etc: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/home
[11:43] <shadeofgrey> so im good right?
[11:43] <uniq> shadeofgrey: ok. 'sudo umount -l /mnt/filedump'
[11:43] <Jucato> w00t: how's it going?
[11:43] <admin__> is anyone aware of any way to generate an /etc/fstab file from scratch ?
[11:43] <gyuszi> !nvidia
[11:43] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:43] <intelikey> uniq as for a backup of fstab   mtab  ;/
[11:44] <uniq> admin__: easiest way is probably to write it yoursef.
[11:44] <_rince_> mrgn
[11:44] <admin__> uniq: as in copy one from another machine ?
[11:44] <RawSewage> gatekeeper, good idea
[11:44] <shadeofgrey> success
[11:44] <roryyy48> a
[11:44] <shadeofgrey> now what?
[11:45] <shadeofgrey> now i reboot?
[11:45] <shadeofgrey> by the wy how do i set the su password so that i can become root when i absolutely need to?
[11:45] <uniq> admin__ no, that would not work unless the machines are swetup the same way.
[11:45] <gatekeeper> RawSewage, you got access to making a web page or do you need a google invite?
[11:45] <shadeofgrey> is iut the same command as reg ubuntu?
[11:45] <uniq> shadeofgrey: yes.
[11:45] <intelikey> uniq answer me this   will this line mount at boot time ?    "/dev/sda2 /var/lib/gtkrc ext3 defaults,nosuid,auto 0 0"     mount /var/lib/gtkrc  does mount it btw.
[11:46] <noiesmo> !root > shadeofgrey
[11:47] <uniq> intelikey: if /var/lib/gtkrc is a directory, yes. and you don't need 'auto' for the options, as it is included in the defaults option.
[11:47] <RawSewage> gatekeeper, no, thanks though.  I already have a website
[11:47] <w00t> ...
[11:47] <w00t> he is updating..
[11:47] <admin__> shadeofgrey: if you give root a password and add rootpw to /etc/sudoers with visudo you can su to root using roots password instead of any user being able to do so
[11:47] <admin__> fwiw
[11:47] <w00t> u niverse packages
[11:47] <gatekeeper> RawSewage, np :-) suspected as much
[11:47] <intelikey> fdisk -l /dev/sda  yelds    "/dev/sda2             527         553      216877+  83  Linux"   and /var/lib/gtkrc is a directory,    but i have to manually mount it   any idea why ?
[11:47] <Jucato> w00t: good. then you'll be able to see and install wine
[11:48] <uniq> shadeofgrey: did you successfully execute 'sudo mount /mnt/filedump' ?
[11:48] <uniq> shadeofgrey: if so, you can safely reboot.
[11:48] <ciusbet> damn Gambas doesnt run
[11:49] <shadeofgrey> [mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[11:49] <intelikey> uniq  i haven't figured that one out yet.   i have a theory  but wanted to show that the "i know it will"  doesn't always work...        any idea why that line doesn't mount at boot time ?
[11:50] <w00t> now i found wine in the list of adept manager, requested install
[11:50] <w00t> but when does it realy install:S
[11:50] <shadeofgrey> uniq does that warning i posted mean trouble?
[11:50] <intelikey> uniq  i think it is because on data in the initramfs.img   ;/
[11:51] <Jucato> w00t: click on Preview Changes just to check that Wine will be installed and nothing will be removed, then click on Apply Changes
[11:51] <w00t> aah yea
[11:51] <w00t> ty
[11:51] <w00t> ty
[11:52] <uniq> shadeofgrey: no, you can edit /etc/fstab again, and make a new empty line at the bottom, just to get rid of it.
[11:52] <uniq> intelikey: i can't see why the data in initramfs.img has anything to do with that.
[11:53] <w00t> can i play games on wine:P?
[11:53] <RawSewage> yes
[11:53] <RawSewage> some
[11:53] <plugs> w00t http://appdb.winehq.org/appbrowse.php
[11:53] <uniq> intelikey: works for me, now i used a image file, instead of /dev/sda2, but i can't see why that should matte either.
[11:54] <intelikey> i said i think.     see here is why i think that initramfs is blocking that from mounting automaticly.    when i installed kubuntu it demanded that i have a swap partition so i setup sda5 as swap.  but after install i deleted sda5 and converted sda2 into a primary ext3
[11:55] <intelikey> was sda2 > sda5 = swap    now  sda2 = ext3    but wont automount.
[11:55] <kubuntutaotao> just updated to kde 3.5.4, but konqueror was deleted and system was kde 3.5.3 yet
[11:55] <Surger> How do I force remove a package?
[11:56] <intelikey> as for the auto in the fstab line i added that trying to force it to mount at boot... no help.
[11:56] <intelikey> Surger  sudo apt-get remove blah     'Yes, do as I say!'
[11:57] <shadeofgrey> hey listen guys thanks very much for everytrhing
[11:57] <intelikey> Surger if it's dependancies keeping it installed    dpkg -P --force-all blah <---but don't try that at home.
[11:57] <Jucato> shadeofgrey: sorry wasn't that much help
[11:58] <shadeofgrey> ju:  thats not true.
[11:58] <Jucato> I'm a bit doubtful of my fstab editing skills
[11:58] <shadeofgrey> hmm
[11:58] <Jucato> :-D
[11:58] <shadeofgrey> is there nick completion in this konversation program?  and autologin to nickserv and shit?
[11:58] <Jucato> type in a few letters of the name and hit Tab?
[11:58] <shadeofgrey> most importantly are there mp3 grabber scripts for this program?  the ones for  xchat blow rancid ardvark nuts
[11:59] <intelikey> shadeofgrey other than trying to wreck your pinguin.   all i helped you do was agravate uniq       but your welcome  :)
[11:59] <w00t> does anyone play trackmania nations on wine?
[12:00] <Surger> intelikey: Well it's messed - I can't uninstall or reinstall courier because of missing files. I want to wack it and start again.
[12:00] <plugs> rancid ardvark nuts wow
[12:00] <plugs> shame on me for repeating that
[12:00] <intelikey> Surger you can force install also....
[12:01] <intelikey> Surger try sudo apt-get install -f          see if it fixes it, before you give up on it.
[12:01] <Jucato> gtg for now. gotta eat... :-!
[12:02] <shadeofgrey> oh CRAP
[12:02] <ciusbet> hi all
[12:02] <ciusbet> :D
[12:02] <shadeofgrey> i just triedto run amorak and it created a master list that looks like absoluteshit
[12:02] <Surger> intelikey: Doesn't work
[12:02] <ciusbet> someone has installed Gambas?
[12:02] <shadeofgrey> how do i remolve the entire collection data thing and start from scratch?
[12:03] <intelikey> Surger error message ?    not the last thing it says.  the first E:
[12:03] <boo> hi
[12:03] <ciusbet> i can't run Gambas :S
[12:03] <Surger> * Starting Courier POP3 server...                                                                                                           bind: Address already in use
[12:04] <intelikey> shadeofgrey something like   rm ~/.amarok/ -r
[12:04] <Surger> intelikey: Errors were encountered while processing:
[12:04] <Surger>  courier-pop
[12:04] <Surger> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[12:04] <intelikey> not sure about the dir.
[12:05] <Surger> intelikey: All I want to do it delete it and reinstall it from scratch but I can't install it and I can't remove it. :-\
[12:06] <intelikey> Surger sudo dpkg -P courier-pop
[12:06] <Surger> dpkg -l | grep courier   ii  courier-authdaemon  ii  courier-authdaemon  pF  courier-pop
[12:06] <boo> you cant use "sudo apt-get remove amarok"?
[12:06] <uniq> intelikey: if you think the mounting issue has to do with initrd you can take a look at the contents of the image like this; make and go to a empty directory, like /tmp/initrd/, copy your initrd.img to the dir, run 'gunzip -c initrd.img|cpio -i', now have a look around. I don't think it will mess with your automounts. but feel free to investigate.
[12:06] <shadeofgrey> huys i nered sewrious help
[12:06] <intelikey> then    sudo apt-get install -f        again
[12:06] <shadeofgrey> amorak did sokmething terrible with my entire music collection
[12:06] <Surger> intelikey: Ah!!! That did it.
[12:07] <shadeofgrey> i needto remove the entire collection and theni need to talk to somebody who actually knows how tyo use this daamn thing
[12:07] <intelikey> uniq on mount the image -o loop
[12:08] <uniq> intelikey: you can mount it too, but then you can't change anything. doing it my way it is easy to cpio+gzip again.
[12:09] <intelikey> uniq if that's not it.  there muct be something else that is trying to call it a swap partition.   like i said if it's not in the initramfs.img   i don't know what it would be.
[12:09] <shadeofgrey> okasy guys whats the kde equivelant to winamp?
[12:09] <Surger> shadeofgrey: Not KDE but XMMS comes close
[12:10] <uniq> intelikey: only fstab controls what the partitions are. the boot loader needs to know what is the root and boot filesystems though.
[12:10] <shadeofgrey> does anybody know how to make amorak delete its entire collection database and start from scratch?
[12:10] <gatekeeper> shadeofgrey, you on about amarok?
[12:10] <shadeofgrey> because the one it created from my music  list ishorriblke
[12:10] <shadeofgrey> its not usable
[12:10] <shadeofgrey> at all
[12:10] <willy_> Using a windows partioniner allowed me to install ubuntu! Thanks all.
[12:11] <intelikey> uniq i'm a work around rather than fix, kinda guy i guess.     it's easiest to add a mount /var/lib/gtkrc   to an init script.    then it mounts at boot.
[12:11] <shadeofgrey> i have master folder with all my music divided by   type'
[12:11] <shadeofgrey> and then by musician
[12:11] <willy_> I have one urgent question though. How do I get me res above 1024?
[12:11] <shadeofgrey> and amorak totally  ignored my anally retentive    music structure
[12:11] <shadeofgrey> i cantfunction properly with my music collection organised like this
[12:12] <w00t> lol
[12:12] <shadeofgrey> somebodys got to help me here or ill just have to uninstall amorak altogether
[12:12] <shadeofgrey> im serious yo!
[12:12] <gatekeeper> shadeofgrey, there is a #amarok channel you might get more help there
[12:12] <w00t> my damn ass windows xp is so fucking slow it takes 2 hour to copy 3 gb to a other hd...
[12:12] <bugunu> w00t: maybe you should check for DMA if it is enabled
[12:12] <uniq> intelikey: that init script already exists. /etc/init.d/mountall.sh
[12:13] <intelikey> shadeofgrey only thing i've ever done with amarok is uninstall it.  :)
[12:13] <bugunu> hi, can anyone tell me which package should I install to have ie. "man strcpy" ?
[12:13] <intelikey> uniq  no.  that doesn't mount it.  but a specific mount call does.
[12:14] <uniq> intelikey: mountall.sh runs mount -a, basically.
[12:14] <intelikey> and yes "i know that it will" also.  but it still doesn't
[12:14] <intelikey> that is to say  mount -a won't mount it.
[12:14] <uniq> then something is wrong in your fstab.
[12:15] <intelikey> i'll dcc it to you if you want to look or even pastebin it.    hell i'll flood the channel with it.... hehhe
[12:15] <bugunu> w00t: My Computer, Properties, Device Manager, something with IDE controller, check both Primary and Secondary items for an Advanced tab and see there smth like DMA if available and near it the current mode, if it is PIO only then you prolly have to delete this item(Primary and/or Secondary then reboot)
[12:15] <uniq> intelikey: pastebin is fine with me.
[12:15] <intelikey> !pastebin
[12:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:16] <intelikey> give me a sec.
[12:16] <bugunu> does anyone know which package has "man strcpy" ?
[12:16] <bugunu> ubotu: roger that
[12:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about roger that - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:17] <uniq> bugunu: manpages-dev
[12:17] <bugunu> uniq: thanks!
[12:17] <uniq> you're welcome :)
[12:18] <intelikey> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d19766
[12:18] <intelikey> uniq there it is ^
[12:18] <uniq> opening..
[12:20] <intelikey> errr actually i lied about the umount -a  it will   but it doesn't automout at boot.   this is my fix for it.  cat of /etc/rc.local
[12:20] <intelikey> #!/bin/sh -e
[12:20] <intelikey> mount -a
[12:20] <intelikey> exit 0
[12:21] <NewTon> Hello!
[12:21] <uniq> intelikey: ok, interesting. then i have no clue.
[12:21] <NewTon> I have a problem with grub-install
[12:21] <intelikey> uniq yes. me too.
[12:21] <NewTon> can somebody help?
[12:22] <uniq> have to go do some laundry. later.
[12:22] <uniq> NewTon: it's often better to ask the real question and wait. :)
[12:22] <intelikey> uniq about the 'rebuke' eariler with the tee command,  good call.   keep me in line.   i respect that.
[12:22] <NewTon> uniq ok, I will ask
[12:23] <NewTon> I wrote "# grub-install /dev/hda"
[12:23] <NewTon> but it gives this error:
[12:23] <NewTon> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[12:23] <NewTon> Is this a real question, uniq
[12:24] <intelikey> NewTon do you have a /boot partition ?
[12:24] <intelikey> NewTon run that as root.
[12:25] <NewTon> intelikey: Yes, I am with the live cd now, I wrote sudo su -
[12:25] <NewTon> now i am root
[12:25] <NewTon> actually I had Linux two days ago, but I had to install Windows
[12:26] <NewTon> and the grub went... :D
[12:26] <intelikey> ok you have to use a chroot to install grub from.   mount the linux partition   chroot /that.mount.point grub-install /dev/hda
[12:26] <NewTon> ok
[12:27] <intelikey> !grub
[12:27] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:27] <intelikey> NewTon the wiki might help you there  ^
[12:27] <NewTon> intelikey, I red it
[12:27] <NewTon> read*
[12:28] <NewTon> I went to ubuntuguide.org, but the re is - grub-install /dev/hda
[12:28] <NewTon> It is not working, as I said
[12:28] <intelikey> not install  but recovering afteg windows install  ^^^
[12:28] <NewTon> :)
[12:29] <NewTon> root@ubuntu:~# chroot /mnt/hda grub-install /dev/hda
[12:29] <NewTon> /dev/hda: Not found or not a block device.
[12:29] <apoka> Hi
[12:29] <shadeofgrey> okay guys i need help
[12:29] <shadeofgrey> i need to know what my optiuons are as far as mp3 players
[12:29] <intelikey> try /.dev
[12:29] <intelikey> or no
[12:29] <w00t> al the games get fucked on wine!:P
[12:29] <intelikey> wait.
[12:29] <shadeofgrey> because amorak is the worst one ive ever trieds to uyse
[12:29] <NewTon> intelikey: k
[12:29] <shadeofgrey> sdo that out
[12:30] <Jucato> shadeofgrey: what's the problem with amarok?
[12:30] <shadeofgrey> what are my other options
[12:30] <NewTon> shadeofgrey: XMMS
[12:30] <shadeofgrey> Jucato: none of my mp3 files have the right tag information
[12:30] <Jucato> shadeofgrey: XMMS and Juk are alternatives.
[12:30] <shadeofgrey> how would i look at a list of all the mp3 players available -- through adept?
[12:31] <NewTon> shadeofgrey: sudo apt-get install xmms
[12:31] <intelikey> NewTon    chroot /mnt/hda mknod /dev/hda b 3 0
[12:31] <intelikey> then try again.
[12:31] <Jucato> I thought Amarok only read the tags that are already there, unless you change them within Amarok itself.
[12:31] <wouter__> Hi all. I have a problem. I just installed KDE3.5.4. One package (kdemultimedia) wasnt able to upgrade. The error message is: libarts1-audiofile (>=4:3.5.4-0ubuntu2~dapper1) but 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu3 is to be installed.  What should I do to get kdemultimedia to upgrade?
[12:31] <Firetech> shadeofgrey: you'd better use easytag or something to fix your tags instead, Amarok is way better than any other player ;)
[12:32] <shadeofgrey> Firetech: unfortunately that means manually editing the tags for 250 gig worth of music
[12:32] <Ace2007> How do i change the QT Designer version thats in use, i have 3.3.6 and 4.1.2, i want 4.1.2 to be in use. I want to change the version thats sued, like the way you change the java version
[12:32] <uniq> NewTon, intelikey: you need to mount /dev/hdaX first. then chroot to the mounted directory. :)
[12:32] <NewTon> root@ubuntu:~# chroot /mnt/hda mknod /dev/hda b 3 0
[12:32] <NewTon> root@ubuntu:~# chroot /mnt/hda grub-install /dev/hda
[12:32] <NewTon> /dev/hda1: Not found or not a block device.
[12:32] <NewTon> root@ubuntu:~# chroot /mnt/hda mknod /dev/hda b 3 0
[12:32] <NewTon> mknod: `/dev/hda': File exists
[12:32] <NewTon> root@ubuntu:~# grub-install /dev/hda
[12:32] <NewTon> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[12:33] <intelikey> Ace2007 update-alternatives maybe    man that
[12:33] <uniq> the device should be there.
[12:33] <Firetech> shadeofgrey: not with easytag, it's a mass tagger... Your problem probably is id3v2 with wrong encoding... come over to #amarok for help, there are lots of people to help you with your tags there (it's a common problem)
[12:33] <uniq> NewTon: don't run both commands like that.. run first: 'chroot /mnt/hda'
[12:34] <uniq> NewTon: then 'grub-install /dev/hda' inside the chroot :)
[12:34] <NewTon> ou
[12:34] <NewTon> ok
[12:34] <intelikey> NewTon process of elimenation.    chroot /mnt/hda mknod /dev/hda1 b 3 1       and try again.
[12:34] <intelikey> uniq he is.
 root@ubuntu:~# chroot /mnt/hda grub-install /dev/hda
[12:35] <intelikey> id i post that.
[12:35] <Ace2007> intelikey: But sudo update-alternatives --config what?
[12:36] <NewTon> intelikey
[12:36] <NewTon> it is not working
[12:36] <Ace2007> brb
[12:36] <uniq> intelikey: ok, i'lll leave you to it. my girl is here with a new load of laundry for me. brb.
[12:36] <gnomefreak> um i dont think qt is in update-alternatives
[12:36] <shadeofgrey> okay i cant find easy tag anywhere... how dio i add the necessary repos to adept?
[12:36] <intelikey> Ace2007 ls /etc/alternatives and see if that is even applicalbe to your issue.
[12:37] <intelikey> k
[12:37] <Jucato> anyone had experience some problems with the media:/ KIO slave after upgrading to KDE 3.5.4?
[12:37] <intelikey> NewTon what you mean ?     different error ?
[12:38] <NewTon> the same
[12:38] <NewTon>  /dev/hda1: Not found or not a block device.
[12:38] <counter123> I've installed wpasupplicant and it does work when called from commandline, but /etc/init.d/wpasupplicant doesn't exist. Why is the init script missing and how can I get it?
[12:38] <intelikey> ls /mnt/hda/dev/hd*
[12:38] <shadeofgrey> how do i enable more repos in adept - specifically the universe and multiverse and shit?
[12:39] <intelikey> is hda1 there ?
[12:39] <NewTon> ls: /mnt/hda/dev/hd*: No such file or directory
[12:40] <uniq> shadeofgrey: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:41] <intelikey> NewTon then you didn't run the command i gave last.  but lets kill all pigons at one time shall we.    chroot /mnt/hda  ;cd /dev ;MAKEDEV hd ;grub-install /dev/hda       <--- put that in the terminal.
[12:42] <intelikey> that wont work will it.
[12:42] <NewTon> w8ing
[12:42] <intelikey> run the chroot first then the rest of the line in there.
[12:42] <NewTon> root@ubuntu:/# chroot /mnt/hda  ;cd /dev ;MAKEDEV hd ;grub-install /dev/hda
[12:42] <intelikey> you are in the chroot ?
[12:42] <NewTon> chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory
[12:42] <NewTon> /sbin/MAKEDEV: warning: can't read /proc/devices
[12:43] <NewTon> Due to a bug in xfs_freeze, the following command might produce a segmentation
[12:43] <NewTon> fault when /boot/grub is not in an XFS filesystem. This error is harmless and
[12:43] <NewTon> can be ignored.
[12:43] <NewTon> xfs_freeze: specified file ["/boot/grub"]  is not on an XFS filesystem
[12:43] <NewTon> Installation finished. No error reported.
[12:43] <NewTon> This is the contents of the device map /boot/grub/device.map.
[12:43] <NewTon> Check if this is correct or not. If any of the lines is incorrect,
[12:43] <NewTon> fix it and re-run the script `grub-install'.
[12:43] <NewTon> (hd0)   /dev/hda
[12:43] <NewTon> (hd1)   /dev/hdb
[12:43] <intelikey> you have installed grub
[12:43] <NewTon> :D huh Really? :D
[12:43] <counter123> can anyone give me a hint what to do about the missing /etc/init.d/wpasupplicant ?
[12:44] <NewTon> hehehehe I will restart soon
[12:44] <NewTon> intelikey: Thank you very much!
[12:44] <const_cast> counter123: what's the problem?
[12:44] <intelikey> welcome.
[12:44] <counter123> /etc/init.d/wpasupplicant doesn't exist although wpa_supplicant is installed
[12:45] <shadeofgrey> okay guys i need help
[12:46] <shadeofgrey> i just installed beep media player and i dont see it in any menua
[12:46] <sfkhooper> does anyone know enough to help troubleshoot a webmin installation?
[12:46] <const_cast> counter123: did it disapear after you did an upgrade?
[12:46] <intelikey> dpkg -L wpa_supplicant | grep init.d            and see if it was supposed to install there.
[12:47] <uniq> counter123: this is because it's not handled that way anymore, it is handled by /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/wpasupplicant, which is a symlink to /etc/wpa_supplicant/ifupdown.sh
[12:47] <const_cast> intelikey: it's not :)
[12:47] <counter123> I see
[12:47] <intelikey> sfkhooper sorry i'm network illiterate
[12:47] <Jucato> anyone had experience some problems with umounted media and mounting media in the media:/ KIO slave after upgrading to KDE 3.5.4?
[12:48] <shadeofgrey> okay how do i handle situations where things have been installed but they dont show up in menu
[12:48] <sfkhooper> come on mysql heads, don't miss this excellent opportunity to laugh as a newbie fumbles his way thru a webmin config
[12:48] <Jucato> shadeofgrey: you can either log out then back in again, or you could try typing this in Konsole: kbuildsycoca --incremental
[12:49] <intelikey> shadeofgrey sudo update-menus      may help.   no promices.
[12:49] <uniq> sfkhooper: what is the problem with webmin?
[12:49] <Jucato> Is Kubuntu the only KDE distro that has this behavior with newly installed apps?
[12:50] <intelikey> jucato what behaviour ?
[12:50] <sfkhooper> after installing, I get "Could not connect to host ubuntulamp (port 10000)."
[12:50] <uniq> is anything listening on port 10000?
[12:51] <Jucato> intelikey: it no longer shows unmounted partitions/drives. and it also doesn't show unmounted partitions when you mount them.
[12:51] <sfkhooper> uniq, when I browse to https://ubuntulamp:10000/ as instructed
[12:51] <sfkhooper> uniq, how can I check?
[12:51] <intelikey> Jucato there are settings for that, right click the desktop and configure the thing   or system settings and config it.
[12:52] <uniq> sfkhooper: on the server run 'sudo netstat -lpnAinet'
[12:52] <Jucato> I'm talking about media:/ in Konqueror
[12:52] <intelikey> i always turn all that krap off
[12:52] <intelikey> oh in konq
[12:52] <intelikey> idk.   it may turn on/off also.
[12:52] <w00t> i have installed kismet, now i ccan't find it..
[12:52] <Jucato> Ok, I'll try it later...
[12:53] <sfkhooper> ok uniq, there's the problem. I thought mysql would have been configured to listen on that port but there's nothing there
[12:54] <uniq> sfkhooper: mysql should listen on port 3306 i guess. webmin should listen on 10000
[12:54] <uniq> sfkhooper: did you follow http://www.howtoforge.com/lamp_installation_ubuntu6.06 ?
[12:54] <sfkhooper> no, but thanks uniq, I'll look now
[12:55] <intelikey> i tried to install vmware-player  but found that it's i686+ only,  even though it's an i386 package... i can't use it.
[12:55] <w00t> hello?
[12:56] <uniq> w00t: in konsole,run 'sudo kismet'
[12:56] <w00t> i have  installed Kismet on the Adept manager
[12:57] <uniq> w00t: yes, kismet is a terminal application. you have to run it in konsole.
[12:57] <w00t> i know
[12:57] <intelikey> sure you do....
[12:57] <intelikey> :)
[12:57] <w00t> ah wait maybe i have to disconnect first my wirreless connection?
[12:57] <w00t> :P
[12:58] <BluesKaj> what is kismet ?
[12:59] <w00t> mm
[12:59] <w00t> FATAL: Please configure at least one packet source.  Kismet will not function if no packet sources are defined in kismet.conf or on the command line.  Please read the README for more information about configuring Kismet.
[12:59] <BluesKaj> !kismet
[12:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about kismet - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:00] <intelikey> BluesKaj apt-cache search kismet        or s/search/show
[01:02] <uniq> w00t: you have to configure it first
[01:02] <BluesKaj> ok thx , intelikey
[01:02] <w00t> mmm ok
[01:02] <BluesKaj> I'm still hardwired and plan to stay that way
[01:03] <intelikey> BluesKaj there is a saying 'give a man a fish, he will eat one meal. teach him to fish, he will eat the rest of his life'
[01:04] <w00t> # YOU MUST CHANGE THIS TO BE THE SOURCE YOU WANT TO USE
[01:04] <w00t> source=none,none,addme
[01:04] <w00t> ?
[01:04] <uniq> w00t: what wireless nic?
[01:05] <w00t> u mean like eth0
[01:05] <w00t> ?
[01:05] <w00t> :P
[01:05] <w00t> i am a fucking newbie:P
[01:05] <intelikey> is that what kind.....
[01:06] <w00t> mmm...
[01:06] <uniq> w00t: 3com? dlink?  name and number :)
[01:06] <w00t> ah
[01:06] <uniq> w00t: lspci might give you some information. if you pastebin the output of 'lspci -v' i might be able to help.
[01:07] <intelikey> lshw is sometimes usefull also.
[01:08] <uniq> sure is.
[01:08] <shadeofgrey> okay guyts
[01:09] <shadeofgrey> i need to know about my options for ftp programs
[01:09] <shadeofgrey> im used to using gftp -- but is that a gnome only program?
[01:09] <shadeofgrey> its listed in adept as a possibility
[01:09] <intelikey> is that guts guys or gluts ?
[01:09] <shadeofgrey> guys
[01:09] <omeow> shadeofgrey, use konqueror
[01:09] <BluesKaj> intelikey, I already know how to fish , AAMOF it's one of my fav pastimes :)
[01:09] <omeow> type ftp://whatever address in it
[01:09] <Jucato> shadeofgrey: konqueror
[01:09] <w00t> where must i pastebin it?
[01:09] <shadeofgrey> will gftp work on kde?
[01:10] <omeow> Yes.
[01:10] <omeow> Why do you want a dedicated program?
[01:10] <omeow> konqueror can be used for ftp too.
[01:10] <Jucato> shadeofgrey: you don't need to gFTP unless you really want/need to. Konqueror can also be your FTP client
[01:10] <intelikey> BluesKaj same principels apply.  if i answer what blah is  you learn what blah is ... if i show you an easy way to find out what blah is......
[01:11] <Jucato> shadeofgrey: Konqueror (type in ftp:/) then split the view (Ctrl+Shift+L or Ctrl+Shift+T) then drag'n'drop to your heart's content
[01:11] <BluesKaj> intelikey, well, I don't plan on wireless since my house is already wired with cat5
[01:12] <w00t> ?
[01:12] <w00t> what u want to know of lspci -v?
[01:12] <BluesKaj> no laptops here
[01:12] <intelikey> my modem reset.  if i missed anything.
[01:12] <shadeofgrey> how do i set keyboard shortcuts foir programs?
[01:12] <uniq> w00t: wherever you want. just give me the url when done.
[01:12] <Jucato> Settings > Configure shortcuts. Each program have their own shortcuts
[01:13] <w00t> ok:)
[01:13] <uniq> w00t: rafb.net/paste is nice
[01:13] <intelikey> BluesKaj same thing applies about the answer to your question tho    if i just tell you what blah is, you learn what blah is.   but if i show you an easy way to check what blah is.  you can check for any package.
[01:14] <intelikey> fishing for answers lets call it.
[01:14] <w00t> http://rafb.net/paste/results/xhO8jr72.html
[01:15] <w00t> that is ok?
[01:15] <BluesKaj> agreed , but i was merely referring to the wireless thing...wasn't being critical of those who have it
[01:15] <KaoticEvil> anyone know if its possible to get a pair of Radeon 7000's working in "sli" mode?
[01:16] <intelikey> google can answer many questions.  but sometimes the answers i get from google are a big waste of time and no help.   if i want to know what a package is for   apt-cache search/show blah  knows more than google and isn't filled with uselss information that i don't want.
[01:16] <uniq> w00t: ok, you have a intel wireless nic.
[01:17] <BluesKaj> I guess if my daughter wants to setup her laptop when she visits then I should look into wireless but I'm sure she can do dhcp with it thru my router
[01:17] <uniq> w00t: try to set this: source=ipw2200,eth1,ATHEROS
[01:20] <uniq> w00t: take a look at http://www.kismetwireless.net/documentation.shtml, search for 'ipw2200' and read. I think you must do some more changes to the config.
[01:20] <intelikey> BluesKaj yeah, i personally am against wireless. just because i see so many using other peoples wireless (pirates).  anything that easy to steal can't be good.  and just about all you need is a close neibour with wireless and a little know how.
[01:20] <KaoticEvil> anyone know if its possible to get a pair of Radeon 7000's working in "sli" mode?
[01:22] <waggle7622frack> radeon 7000=no
[01:22] <intelikey> hmmm isn't the ultimate kaos, structure ?
[01:22] <KaoticEvil> damn. that sucks.
[01:22] <waggle7622frack> you need an sli board and nvidia sli cards
[01:22] <waggle7622frack> or ati crossfire
[01:23] <BluesKaj> yeah intelikey , my neighbour didn't relize he was being used as a node by some of the kids in the neighborhood till his internet speed was so slow he complained and they reaized he hadn't even turned on the encryption
[01:23] <gnomefreak> how do i run a weather applet i installed with sudper karamba
[01:23] <BluesKaj> the ISP support ppl
[01:23] <intelikey> yep BluesKaj i see a lot of that.
[01:24] <uniq> gnomefreak: run superkaramba, select the theme.
[01:24] <gnomefreak> from where?
[01:24] <uniq> gnomefreak: is this liquid weather?
[01:24] <gnomefreak> no that gives me issues
[01:25] <BluesKaj> he was lucky , he din't have any work related important data and he hadn't setup to do any internet banking
[01:25] <uniq> gnomefreak: what issues?
[01:25] <intelikey> internet banking is evil too
[01:25] <BluesKaj> very cautious man but he just didn't know
[01:26] <gnomefreak> uniq: konq. mouse icon doesnt stop trying to load konq. when i go to install it (now for some reasont he one i did install doesnt have green check
[01:26] <intelikey> yep   'my people parish for want of knowledge'
[01:26] <gnomefreak> ah it is liq. weather oh wth
[01:26] <w00t> wtf
[01:27] <w00t> i can't save the config file
[01:27] <w00t> acces dinied...
[01:27] <w00t> i have to be root
[01:27] <intelikey> not root ?
[01:27] <w00t> :)
[01:27] <w00t> lol
[01:27] <gnomefreak> aero - liquidweather i install and it shows no green check and im gonna lock up of i try liquidweather++
[01:27] <uniq> w00t: you can save to /tmp/ and sudo mv /tmp/file /etc/kismet.. then you don't have to re-do all the changes.
[01:28] <w00t> ok
[01:28] <uniq> gnomefreak: you install from within superkaramba right?
[01:28] <gnomefreak> attempting to
[01:28] <BluesKaj> I'm using avidemux for the first time to make a vcd file ... be interesting to see if I did it right :)
[01:28] <gnomefreak> see here we go konq icon bouncing around
[01:30] <uniq> gnomefreak: ok. use wget then, http://www.message.co.nz/~matt-sarah/lwp-13.0.skz
[01:31] <gnomefreak> ok ill try
[01:31] <gnomefreak> btw konq mouse icon still bouncing :(
[01:31] <intelikey> hmmm i added a function to bx to search apt-cache   and glad i made it NOT -o to the channel  cause it's not flood proff.... ;/
[01:33] <intelikey> for a quick search of the cache all i have to do is /q blah
[01:34] <shadeofgrey> hey
[01:34] <intelikey> hey
[01:34] <shadeofgrey> how do i install the flash plugin for mozilla firefox
[01:34] <intelikey> hay
[01:34] <Jucato> hey
[01:34] <eddy_> hoi
[01:34] <Jucato> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[01:34] <Jucato> or install it from Adept
[01:35] <intelikey> libflash-mozplugin - GPL Flash (SWF) Library - Mozilla-compatible plugin
[01:35] <intelikey> flashplugin-nonfree - Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer
[01:35] <uniq> intelikey: the gpl flash is close to useless.
[01:36] <intelikey> imo the other is too
[01:38] <intelikey> !flash
[01:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:42] <gnomefreak> uniq: ok so i throw this in ~/.superkar....?
[01:42] <uniq> gnomefreak: where ever you want, you select the theme file with superkarmba so you can put it wherever.
[01:42] <gnomefreak> i see that ty :)
[01:46] <coretti> #knoppix-it
[01:47] <w00t_> hi
[01:47] <w00t_> hello?
[01:47] <w00t_> am i online?
[01:48] <intelikey> no
[01:48] <w00t_> damn internet connection
[01:48] <w00t_> :P
[01:48] <w00t_> :D
[01:48] <Nancy1> Hi everyone,,
[01:48] <w00t_>  hi
[01:49] <w00t_> damn damn damn i want to put kismet in the kmune
[01:49] <w00t_> menu
[01:49] <intelikey> so put it ther
[01:49] <w00t_> i have add a item
[01:50] <intelikey> make a script and launch it from ther
[01:50] <w00t_> and terminal options : kismet.. that don't work
[01:50] <w00t_> lol how to make a script?
[01:50] <Nancy1> Can anyone help me with a major problem for me,, maybe a ridiculous one for you guys,, but ,, How come I cant unlock my session once my screen saver is on? My pw is good for loging in a session but once screen saver ON my pw doesnt give me access to my session anymore. I have to reboot to get back in a session,,
[01:51] <Nancy1> isnt my pw be good for screen saver,, ?
[01:51] <RawSewage> Uncheck the box that says
[01:51] <RawSewage> REquire Password to stop
[01:51] <RawSewage> Right-click desktop
[01:51] <RawSewage> configure desktop
[01:52] <MetaMorfoziS> !easysource
[01:52] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:52] <milena> zdravo nenad
[01:52] <intelikey> echo 'konsole -e kismit' > kismit.sh :chmod 755 kismit.sh     and make a menu entry for kismet.sh  w00t
[01:52] <lmodl> supak kao si
[01:52] <Nancy1> that I can do,, but I need pw since laptop is in student commom area,, dont want everyone snooping on LT while I turn my eyes around
[01:52] <lmodl> leoo
[01:53] <milena> tata
[01:53] <lmodl> isklucio sam se sa linije n
[01:53] <w00t_> lol that will happen anyway:P
[01:54] <lmodl> obicno pisi kratke poruke
[01:54] <milena> sta ti to znaci linija
[01:54] <lmodl> tel. linija
[01:54] <milena> evo mama sad samnom gleda i cudise
[01:54] <Nancy1> I want to know why my pw isnt good for my screensave, or is there a specific pw for screen saver while in a session?
[01:55] <intelikey> Nancy1 set screensaver to logout ?
[01:55] <lmodl> nema sto da se cudi .. neka uci trebat ce joj
[01:55] <Nancy1> intelikey: ??
[01:55] <intelikey> Nancy1 i understand your question.  i can't answer it.  i was just offering a work around that might suffice.
[01:56] <knubbe> anyone using kubuntu as a tv? using a tv usb stick or similar...
[01:56] <knubbe> and if so; does it work under linux?
[01:56] <milena> eto razumijemo sve ja cu ovo daci pokazat tako da moze mozda i sa svabom da prica ako on bude gtjeo isto umbutu to ce joj usparati puno para
[01:57] <w00t_> still don't know where to put
[01:57] <lmodl> pa naravno jer je potpuno djaba..
[01:57] <w00t_> echo 'konsole -e kismit' > kismit.sh :chmod 755 kismit.sh
[01:57] <intelikey> knubbe isn't the second Q redundant.   if they are using kubuntu as a tv then the answer to the second is YES.
[01:57] <grothesk> lmodl: English please...
[01:57] <Nancy1> intelikey: ahh,, but I didnt rally understood your comment,, set screen saver to log out.. meaning.. once screen saver is on,, there will be option to log out instead of unlock?
[01:58] <knubbe> intelikey: it sure is.
[01:58] <intelikey> Nancy1 i thank there is an option for the screensaver to log you out when it activates.
[01:58] <intelikey> w00t_ in konsole.
[01:58] <knubbe> intelikey: i was thinking maybe its not working 100%, like... only b/w or something.
[01:59] <Nancy1> intelikey: humm let me check
[01:59] <lmodl> leo ja cu sada otici na drugi kanal pa cu te pozvati
[01:59] <intelikey> knubbe i'm a cli user i can't help ya there.
[01:59] <intelikey> more specificly a console user.
[01:59] <milena> eto gajle sad mozemo pricat kolko hocemo sta meni nije jasno je zasto umbutu office nema funktije za holandski jezik mada ja sam instaliro abi ali vidim da je ovaj office 2.0 jako sirok i dobar
[02:00] <Nancy1> intelikey: well in screen saver I have 3 option,, start auto after ,,, password to stop screen saver,, infor screen saver of power saver,, no log out option on activation :( sorry
[02:01] <lmodl> ima ali mora i firefox imati nl opciju bez tog ne ide , neka koristi aby...
[02:01] <intelikey> hmmm Nancy1 don't recall where i saw that option...  may not have even been linux.   i thought it was.
[02:02] <w00t_> ok is typed echo 'konsole -e kismet' > kismet.sh :chmod 755 kismet.sh in konsole...
[02:02] <grothesk> Is enlightenment e17 somewhere available for ubuntu?
[02:02] <intelikey> w00t_ make a menu itom that runs ~/kismet.sh
[02:02] <Nancy1> I remember seeing something like that on other distro like RH,, but havent seen it in Kubuntu
[02:02] <gnomefreak> grothesk: only from either a 3rd party repo or build it yourself
[02:03] <milena> nije problem tata ona ce koristiti abi, ja sam sve insaliro iz pika moguti reci da je jako lako zato sto je umbutu jasani od svi drugi.. nema zajebancije i sada i sve radi
[02:03] <grothesk> I was searching for a 3rd party repo
[02:03] <gnomefreak> hold on
[02:03] <gnomefreak> i have it somewhere
[02:04] <lmodl> pokusaj da nisi vulgaran jer ovo ipak mogu procitati cak i u japanu..
[02:04] <w00t_> it don't work
[02:04] <w00t_> excactly it does noting
[02:04] <w00t_> :P
[02:04] <gnomefreak> !pl
[02:04] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[02:05] <gnomefreak> grothesk: here is the repo but remember e17 is not stable and this repo is still being tested anyway deb http://SeerOfSouls.com/ dapper e17
[02:05] <milena> dobro tata jasno mi je i necu biti vulgaran
[02:06] <gnomefreak> anyone else have issues running kxdocker?
[02:06] <abattoir> !nl
[02:06] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[02:07] <intelikey> w00t_ what is in ~/kismet.sh  ?      should be one line.  konsole -e kismet
[02:07] <yamal> abattoir: please dont send them there that isn't dutch
[02:07] <w00t_> i can't find that...
[02:07] <gnomefreak> !de
[02:07] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:08] <gplfighter> polish or something i think....
[02:08] <abattoir> yamal: hmmm, ok, sorry
[02:08] <gplfighter> don't know
[02:08] <yamal> something eastern european
[02:08] <gplfighter> yes
[02:08] <gplfighter> cz?
[02:08] <lmodl> imas leo kanal ubuntu ito u 14 06 klikni ga ja sam na njemu manje je frekfenta.
[02:08] <gplfighter> !cz
[02:08] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[02:09] <gplfighter> no
[02:09] <gnomefreak> milena: what launguage do you speak?
[02:09] <gnomefreak> lmodl:  what language do you speak
[02:09] <yamal> looks like croatian
[02:09] <yamal> or slovenian
[02:09] <w00t_> this is in kismet.sh
[02:09] <w00t_> konsole -e kismet :chmod 755 kismet.sh
[02:09] <larson9999> my system has gremilins.  they last few days it's been locking up more and more frequently.
[02:09] <gnomefreak> looked polish to me
[02:10] <gplfighter> no, i dont think so
[02:10] <yamal> no polish
[02:10] <gplfighter> maybe
[02:10] <gplfighter> !pl
[02:10] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[02:10] <jon__> Hi folks, quick question about fglrx and/or ATI driver, whichever is relevant.
[02:10] <w00t_> loll
[02:10] <gnomefreak> gplfighter: i know its not polish (at first look it looked like it
[02:11] <BluesKaj> anyone here familiar with Avidemux ?
[02:11] <andreasdietrich> hi
[02:11] <yamal> !hr
[02:11] <ubotu> za hrvatski dodjite na #ubuntu-hr, da ne zbunjujete engleze.
[02:11] <gplfighter> gnomefreak: k
[02:11] <lmodl> bas me briga
[02:11] <intelikey> w00t_ remove the ;chmod 755 kismet.sh     from the file   and make sure the path is correct in the menu launcher.
[02:11] <intelikey> w00t_ it should work.
[02:12] <gnomefreak> ah
[02:12] <milena> to gajle samo ih treba zbunjivat
[02:12] <gnomefreak> milena: join #ubuntu-nl
[02:12] <gplfighter> no
[02:12] <yamal> please no
[02:12] <BluesKaj> jon__,I use the fglrx driver with an elcheapo on board ATIxpress 200 , but I'm not into games so it works fine for me
[02:13] <gnomefreak> lmodl: join #ubuntu-nl
[02:13] <grothesk> gnomefreak: thx
[02:13] <gnomefreak> dont tell me know
[02:13] <gnomefreak> look at the ip
[02:13] <grothesk> Found anotherone: deb http://edevelop.org/ubuntu dapper e17
[02:13] <gplfighter> yes
[02:13] <abattoir> gnomefreak: i made the same mistake too :'(
[02:13] <gplfighter> but
[02:13] <BluesKaj> !Avidemux
[02:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about Avidemux - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:13] <jon__> I have an ATI Express 200. I just wanted to shift some of X's work to the card, which I was told I could. But after installing/configuring, it still seems to be using Mesa.
[02:14] <gnomefreak> grothesk: its still testing
[02:14] <lmodl> leo klikni na ubuntu manje je frekfentan
[02:14] <gnomefreak> e17 hasnt been released
[02:14] <gnomefreak> see nl
[02:15] <BluesKaj> have you tried configging the card driver in the hardware section...I hate state the obvious but the available drivers are listed there if you use admin/configure
[02:15] <milena> ja a gdje to trebam mjenjat
[02:15] <jon__> Please do state the obvious, theres *something* I'm missing. :) I'll take a look.
[02:16] <Seveas> milena, this channel is english only...
[02:16] <grothesk> gnomefreak: Don't worry. I'm aware of that.
[02:16] <Polarbeer> Hi everybody! Here's a newbie question: when i try to login as root i get an error: root logins are not allowed. Can I change that, ie allow root logins?
[02:17] <w00t_> lol i have the same
[02:17] <gnomefreak> grothesk: im not worried its you system (just letting you know)
[02:17] <nagyv> hello! is here any bash scripting expert? I would like to change the charset of all the files in a given directory and subdirectories from Iso 2 utf. I can do it for one file, but would like to use a for loop, but don't know how to do it. Please!
[02:17] <_Shade_> Polarbeer: use sudo instead
[02:17] <Polarbeer> how?
[02:17] <gnomefreak> !root > Polarbeer
[02:17] <gnomefreak> Polarbeer: please read your pm
[02:17] <Polarbeer> i need to open my cd burning tool as root
[02:18] <gnomefreak> Polarbeer: what is it?
[02:18] <jon__> BluesKaj: kcontrol says it's using the fglrx driver, but glxinfo says something different.
[02:18] <Polarbeer> X CD-roast
[02:18] <Polarbeer> it wont execute from console
[02:18] <gnomefreak> Polarbeer: is it gui?
[02:18] <Polarbeer> yes
[02:19] <gnomefreak> Polarbeer: kdesu <app>
[02:19] <intelikey> Nancy1 hmmm you're right it's not there    anywhere.... might have be in 'nome that i saw it.
[02:19] <w00t_> why should must i be root to use kismet?
[02:19] <BluesKaj> jon__, have you assigned the frglx driver ?
[02:20] <jon__> Sorry, how do you mean?
[02:20] <Sanne> Polarbeer: please be aware that if you run a program as root (or sudo), any bigs in this program would also execute with root privileges.
[02:20] <Sanne> bugs even
[02:21] <Polarbeer> yes i am, Sanne, thanks for your concern, though!
[02:21] <Sanne> Polarbeer: ok, just so you know :)
[02:21] <Polarbeer> yep. ty! :D
[02:21] <intelikey> oh.  i didn't know that about kismet w00t_ sorry there.    prepend    kdesu   like this    konsole -e kdeus kismet    and that script should run it as root for you.
[02:22] <BluesKaj> uhoh , sorry jon__, I just discovered aproblem with my graphics card setup
[02:24] <milena> #ubuntu-hr
[02:27] <intelikey> i think i may start using root.   permissions are so nice when they dont exist.........
[02:27] <w00t_> !nl
[02:27] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[02:27] <w00t_> lol
[02:27] <Howitzer> hee
[02:27] <w00t_> can i make my own mune next to the kmune?
[02:27] <Howitzer> Be?
[02:28] <Howitzer> !be
[02:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about be - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:28] <w00t_> kmenu?
[02:28] <BluesKaj> !nd
[02:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about nd - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:28] <w00t_> maak je eigen channel belg:P
[02:28] <intelikey> i think so w00t_
[02:28] <w00t_> #ubuntu-be zitten mensen in:P
[02:29] <yamal> gecondoleerd
[02:29] <malc_> I have a 3 button mouse (two button plus scroll wheel).  I can scroll up and down with the scroll, but I can't click down with it on say a web page and hover down the page.  Anyone know how I fix this?
[02:29] <intelikey> check out /etc/menu-methods   and /etc/menu   you may want to just fiddle with the system a little.
[02:32] <sfkhooper> Help! webmin is prompting me for my MySQL admin login and nothing is working
[02:35] <w00t_> where can i find local/share/applications/menu-xdg?
[02:36] <intelikey>  /usr/local/share/applications/menu-xdg   is probably in  /usr/share/applications/
[02:36] <larson9999> intelikey: i don't have an /etc/menu
[02:36] <w00t_> i don;t have that too:P
[02:37] <intelikey> larson9999 that wasn't @ you it was @ w00t_ but i have one.
[02:37] <intelikey> you don't ?
[02:37] <w00t_> nope
[02:37] <larson9999> intelikey: i know but i figured i'd look, too.  i don't
[02:37] <larson9999> intelikey: i did in mdk
[02:37] <intelikey> hmmmm   maybe it's not default.
[02:38] <intelikey> maybe added by fluxbox   or blackbox   or even xfce4    i have all those installed.
[02:38] <intelikey> idk.
[02:40] <intelikey> for all i know twm might have added that.....
[02:41] <larson9999> intelikey: but i do know that i'm not really happy with the way kde and the menu works on any system i've tried so far.
[02:42] <steveire> In xfce, you can switch desktops by sending the mouse off the screen to the next one. Can you do that in kde?
[02:43] <w00t_> some one know a nice game:P tthat i can run on
[02:43] <w00t_> kubuntu?
[02:44] <ubuntu> hi all
[02:44] <intelikey> larson9999 what would you change ?
[02:46] <blinky> could anyone tell me if you are still able to buy the 2500xp mobile barton cpu on the net and if so where i can get it from(uk only)??
[02:49] <jackle> hi all!
[02:49] <coachj> how do I install a .deb pacakage that is not in the repos?
[02:49] <larson9999> intelikey: let me remember.  some of this i think is not so much do with kde but the packages i install.  i haven't looked in a while so some of this might be off.  but basically, not all programs that you install make it to the menu.  in mandriva i looked into this a bit and found a couple reasons.  one was that the menu file would list gnome or something else in the wm field.  in my mind gnome programs should make it to the kde m
[02:49] <larson9999> enu and vice versa.  there were some other reasons that things didn't make it to the menu but that was the main reason.
[02:49] <jackle> I would like to run that script/process adept runs after installing an app.. but I need to run it on all packages.
[02:50] <jackle> What is the command?
[02:51] <intelikey> well maybe there is a new crowd in here now let me ask my question.    anyone know a solution to a grub-install /dev/hda error that looks like this.  Unknown partition table signature
[02:51] <intelikey> The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[02:51] <intelikey> tty5 [root@~] 
[02:52] <intelikey> jackle sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a    ?
[02:52] <MilhousePunkRock> Re everyone
[02:52] <jackle> intelikey: isnt that the command that reconfigs your whole system?
[02:52] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock wb
[02:52] <intelikey> jackle yes.  what are you asking about ?
[02:53] <MilhousePunkRock> Hehe, I am using Chatzilla on my Windows machine right now, kinda rudimentary compared to Konversation
[02:53] <spc> hi all.  Remote Desktop was really easy to set up in Gnome, but I can't seem to figure it out in KDE.  Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?  I can ping my computer from my laptop, but it says 'can't connect to server'.
[02:53] <intelikey> windows.... /me ignores MilhousePunkRock now.
[02:53] <intelikey> :)
[02:53] <MilhousePunkRock> lol intelikey
[02:53] <jackle> intelikey: when installing an package, adept executes a command in the end that configs the packages ... like setup fontconfig .. but without the promts...
[02:54] <MilhousePunkRock> It's my gaming rig, I want to part the drive on my Linux laptop, GParted does not come with any IRC client...
[02:54] <spc> I've got the sharing tab open and setup.
[02:54] <intelikey> jackle no it executes the postinstall scripts that came with the package     see  /var/lib/dpkg/info/    for more info.
[02:55] <BluesKaj> MilhousePunkRock, why not use xchat or mirc , chatzilla is so black and white :)
[02:55] <MilhousePunkRock> BluesKaj: I just had to find some client quickly...
[02:56] <BluesKaj> hehe yeah , if it works , use it :)
[02:56] <Tommy> coachj: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[02:56] <MilhousePunkRock> it does work indeed, BluesKaj
[02:56] <spc> I've got the ip address and screen typed into the vnc viewer (192.168.x.x:0)  but I don't know whether to use a display, or which display number to use.  I tried 0 and 1.
[02:56] <spc> and no display.
[02:56] <TheMoebius> hey so this is a stupid question because it shouldn't have to be asked, but why can't I find the Trash anywhere in KDE? I need to empty it.
[02:57] <Tommy> did u remove the trash applet from kicker
[02:57] <TheMoebius> Tommy: yeah, I think i did not realizing that was the only place it could be accessed
[02:57] <intelikey> the default trash can is in the bottom left corner of the pannel
[02:57] <Tommy> its always been at bottom right for me o_O
[02:57] <intelikey> err your other left.
[02:58] <w00t> hi
[02:58] <w00t> what does this eman
[02:58] <w00t> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[02:58] <intelikey> right corner.
[02:58] <BluesKaj> MilhousePunkRock, are you looking for GParted ?
[02:58] <TheMoebius> is there any other way to access the trash besides the applet on the task bar?
[02:58] <larson9999> TheMoebius: cd .Trash
[02:58] <zered> hi everybody
[02:59] <zered> i'm a new user of kubuntu
[02:59] <larson9999> TheMoebius: ro cd ~/.Trash
[02:59] <zered> I was under mandriva before
[02:59] <Tommy> trash:/
[02:59] <zered> I have not formatted my /home
[02:59] <larson9999> TheMoebius: or cd ~/.Trash
[02:59] <intelikey> sure there is TheMoebius this is linux.    konq can get there   konsole rm ~/.Trash/* -r
[02:59] <zered> Amarok don't want add my collection (read my drive). It add this in "imported"
[03:00] <zered> What can I do
[03:00] <intelikey> or put the button back on the pannel.
[03:00] <TheMoebius> intelikey: LOL well thats intuitive
[03:00] <intelikey> and other ways.....
[03:00] <abattoir> zered: which version of amarok was installed under Mandriva?
[03:00] <intelikey> TheMoebius it's easy to put it back.
[03:00] <TheMoebius> cant I get an icon on the desktop or something?
[03:00] <Tommy> TheMoebius does trash:/ in konqueror work
[03:01] <TheMoebius> yes
[03:01] <Tommy> make a .desktop shortcut to konqueror trash:/
[03:01] <TheMoebius> well, sort of but theres nothing in there and I just deleted like 11GB worth of stuff
[03:01] <Tommy> well are you sure that its in the trash
[03:01] <Tommy> you could add the panel just to make sure
[03:01] <Tommy> applet*
[03:01] <zered> abattoir: Hi. The same as ubuntu (1.4.1)
[03:02] <TheMoebius> ok so I put the icon back on the taskbar and did the empty trash function but its just sitting at 0%
[03:02] <abattoir> zered: so you mean to say amarok doesnt read from the 'Collection database' you created w/ it in Mandriva... or you cant do a new scan...?
[03:03] <zered> abattoir: it don't want do a new scan
[03:03] <zered> I erased this "imported" and force a new scan
[03:03] <abattoir> zered: could you try deleting the amarok config files in your /home?
[03:03] <zered> amarok create again an "imported list"
[03:03] <abattoir> zered: you'd lose your settings of course...
[03:04] <zered> abattoir: yes, I would try this but I can't find it. Where is it ? What is it's name ?
[03:04] <abattoir> zered: ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok and ~/.kde/share/config/amarokrc
[03:04] <abattoir> zered: make sure amarok is closed when you do that
[03:04] <cplusplus> hi
[03:04] <cplusplus> nano -w /etc/conf.d/net
[03:04] <zered> abattoir: ok, I try it. Thanx.
[03:05] <cplusplus> does kubuntu has that?
[03:05] <cplusplus> -> nano -w /etc/conf.d/net
[03:05] <abattoir> zered: you're welcome :)
[03:05] <Hobbsee> !info amarok dapper
[03:05] <ubotu> amarok: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In repository main, is optional. Version 2:1.3.9-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 7630 kB, installed size 18672 kB
[03:05] <Hobbsee> zered: 1.4.1 isnt in kubuntu by default, unless you're talkign about edgy.
[03:05] <zered> abattoir: I nee erase all folder /kde/share/apps/amarok ?
[03:06] <abattoir> cplusplus: 'nano', yes... /etc/conf.d... i dont think so...(or atleast it isnt in my system)
[03:06] <zered> Hobbsee: I installed kubuntu 6.0.6 ans i have amarok 1.4. That's no normal ?
[03:06] <cplusplus> where are eth eth0 config saved?
[03:06] <Hobbsee> zered: you used the kubuntu.org repostories?
[03:07] <Hobbsee> zered: they are still counted as official.  i think
[03:07] <zered> Hobbsee: sorry, it's 1.3.9. The splashscreen is wrong
[03:07] <Hobbsee> zered: ah :)
[03:07] <coachj> Tommy: thanks I found out you can also right click>Kubuntu package menu>install package!!!
[03:07] <Hobbsee> zered: i'd actually add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list which always contains the newest version of amarok for kubuntu
[03:08] <Hobbsee> zered: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest/ dapper main
[03:08] <cplusplus> where is my network eth0 config saved on kubuntu??????????????
[03:08] <zered> Hobbsee: I add it. Thanx. I try !
[03:09] <Lynoure> cplusplus: /etc/network/interfaces
[03:10] <zered> Hobbsee: I'm uprading amarok
[03:10] <zered> stay tunes folks. ;-)
[03:10] <Hobbsee> zered: cool :)  that repo always gets the latest version of amarok in it.
[03:10] <Hobbsee> zered: i think that amarok 1.4.2 will probably go into it, too.  when it's released, and gets packaged
[03:10] <zered> Hobbsee: stable version I hope ?! :-) It's a test box...
[03:10] <intelikey> TheMoebius yes you can indeed put an icon on the desktop  for trash.
[03:11] <crazy_penguin> Good afternoon all!
[03:11] <Hobbsee> zered: yeah.  at least i recall that's the way it gets done.
[03:11] <zered> Hobbsee: yeah : 1.4.1
[03:11] <Hobbsee> besides, a new amarok is unlikely to kill anythign major :P
[03:12] <zered> I'm scanning my drive !
[03:12] <zered> I see kde 3.5.4 is available for kubuntu. In what repo ?
[03:14] <zered> Hobbsee: cool, I can listen web radio now !
[03:14] <Hobbsee> zered: :)
[03:14] <Hobbsee> zered: see kubuntu.org
[03:14] <crazy_penguin> zered: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354 dapper main
[03:14] <Hobbsee> zered: it has newer repos of such things, often.
[03:14] <zered> crazy_penguin: hi. Thanx
[03:15] <Hobbsee> er....oh yeah, they didnt.  kde 3.5.4 came out before something was done with my packages, making my fix obselete.
[03:16] <crazy_penguin> is using someone the ubuntu mailing list in here?
[03:16] <zered> Thanx guys for amarok, I have my collection and my web radios ! Cool !
[03:16] <intelikey> well maybe there is a new crowd in here now let me ask my question again.    anyone know a solution to a grub-install /dev/hda  giving this error ?      Unknown partition table signature
[03:16] <zered> crazy_penguin: no problems with this kde ?
[03:16] <zered> no HARD problems ?
[03:17] <crazy_penguin> with 3.5.3 no
[03:17] <crazy_penguin> that i don't know
[03:17] <crazy_penguin> i don't have any
[03:17] <zered> crazy_penguin: thanx. I had 3.5.3 under mandriva with no problem.
[03:18] <zered> Another question. I cant change icons for my link on my desktop.
[03:19] <intelikey> looks like a statement to me.
[03:19] <intelikey> or two fo them.
[03:19] <intelikey> of
[03:21] <zered> How can we change icons for link on the desktop ?
[03:21] <intelikey> anyone got ideas about    grub-install /dev/hda    giving this error ?      Unknown partition table signature     The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[03:21] <spc> nope, I started up vnc4server, still "failed to connect to server"
[03:21] <intelikey> zered i right click and select properties.
[03:22] <zered> intelikey: hi. Icon is not accessible int his panel
[03:23] <intelikey> panel ???   you said link on the desktop   not panel.
[03:23] <rob_> hello, i'm looking for a simple program to play mp3 files over an unmounted smb shares. Kmplayer and Kaffeine can do this, but i'm looking for something like xmms..
[03:23] <TheHighChild> zered: When you right click and go to properties, click on the current icon and it should offer alternative and searchable icons
[03:23] <zered> intelikey: when I access propreties panel for this link I can't access this icon.
[03:24] <rob_> can anybody suggest a nico program that can do this?
[03:26] <zered> I suppose it's a problem with rights.
[03:26] <zered> But if I can add link on my desktop I suppose I have right to change icons ?!
[03:28] <intelikey> zered i don't really understand your delema, and probably couldn't help if i did.  i start up a gui one or two times a week...  (console user)   but in kde i right click the icon on the desktop,  select properties,   in the popup window i again left click the icon,  and there is another popup window to select the new icon in.     if it truely is a permission issue.  in the konsole run this  sudo chown <your user name> -R ./
[03:29] <intelikey> replacing <*> accordingly.
[03:29] <zered> intelikey: I knwo this. But with kubuntu I can't access icon. I can't click it
[03:29] <intelikey> zered idk.  i can.
[03:30] <intelikey> ???   sorry.
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[03:31] <zered> intelikey: I think it's a rights problem. I have change it and I have to go so I restart my kde and I come back soon
[03:31] <zered> thanx folks
[03:32] <intelikey> hope it works out for you
[03:32] <MilhousePunkRock> BluesKaj: I got the GParted LiveCD in my Laptop already
[03:32] <BluesKaj> cool MilhousePunkRock, I thought it was included , but I wasn't sure
[03:33] <MilhousePunkRock> But I am not really sure, what sizes would be best for the future partitions
[03:33] <BluesKaj> since I had it on a sepreate cd for 2 yrs
[03:33] <MilhousePunkRock> BluesKaj: I think it (or QtParted) is on the *ubuntu Live CD too thogh
[03:33] <MilhousePunkRock> though*
[03:34] <MilhousePunkRock> Here are the facts: The HDD is 30 GB, I upgraded the RAM to a total size of 512 now, so I might want to increase my swap partition...
[03:34] <intelikey> non-gui that ^
[03:34] <BluesKaj> use 600MB or so for swap , and depending on what you want to do ...video stuff reqiures alotta room I went witha 30 gig partition for the system
[03:35] <MilhousePunkRock> My current /dev/hda1 is 27.23 GiB in size, 9.78 GiB used (from my Kubuntu install)
[03:35] <MilhousePunkRock> I want to install another distro, thus I need another partition of about 10 GB
[03:36] <BluesKaj> ok , is it a notebook ?
[03:36] <MilhousePunkRock> yes
[03:36] <intelikey> if i was going to make it that big.... i'd probably mke2fs /dev/hda  and  if i used swap make a swap file.
[03:36] <intelikey> not sujesting that btw
[03:37] <MilhousePunkRock> Hibernation and such is set up to use the swap
[03:37] <MilhousePunkRock> I am thinking about making a "common home folder" though
[03:37] <BluesKaj> are planning on adual boot with windows or just another linux distro
[03:37] <intelikey> well i'm went.
[03:38] <MilhousePunkRock> Or maybe a data partition for my own documents and stuff, since I am not sure if a "shared home" makes sense for 2 distros that will use different WMs
[03:38] <MilhousePunkRock> BluesKaj: No more Windows, no... WGA drove me away from it
[03:39] <BluesKaj> lol
[03:39] <MilhousePunkRock> I bought this Laptop (used) _with_ an XP Pro License... Still that WGA tool notified my I was the victim of software piracy
[03:40] <MilhousePunkRock> I passed the Genuine Test using Wine though... :-D
[03:41] <MilhousePunkRock> Any ideas on the home/data/documents partition idea anyone?
[03:41] <BluesKaj> Ilost my Windows XP thru ascrewup using partition magic and the recovery parition was some how corrupted so I couldn't remount my legal version of windows
[03:42] <MilhousePunkRock> You could have ordered a recovery CD from your computer's manufacturer though, BluesKaj
[03:43] <BluesKaj> my fault of course, but DL'd an illegal version with a validation crack and then applied my serial and haven't had any update validation probs since
[03:43] <thiagotf> alguem que escreva em portugues pode me dar uma ajuda??
[03:43] <MilhousePunkRock> !pt
[03:43] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[03:43] <paco> hola
[03:45] <BluesKaj> I made a recovery cd as per the mfg instructions but it merely boots the recovery partition ...my recovery partition eas corrupted by my stupidity using that so called partition magic software
[03:47] <MilhousePunkRock> I don't wanna mess with the partitions again, so I better have the perfect plan to do it once and forever now...
[03:47] <_bbeck> I was wondering if anyone here might be able to look at this pdf, it's looks broken on Breezy with kpdf 0.5.2.  Thanks.  http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/silu/sports/w-volley/auto_pdf/2005Season.pdf
[03:47] <htraki> hello to all
[03:48] <MilhousePunkRock> hello htraki
[03:48] <htraki> MilhousePukRock:How are U today?
[03:49] <Hardcopi> I can't get the live cd to boot, it just comes up with an endless string of translated/ata errors. I searched the forums and just cannot find the trouble. Any ideas?
[03:49] <MilhousePunkRock> I am alright so far, htraki
[03:49] <BluesKaj> yeah MilhousePunkRock, Ithought I knew what i was doing but i got bit on the butt for thinking that way :)
[03:49] <MilhousePunkRock> Hardcopi: Did you run the Self-Test on the boot prompt?
[03:49] <MilhousePunkRock> BluesKaj: Go ahead, discourage me...
[03:49] <htraki> Hardcopi:Thow away the CD
[03:49] <rob_> anybody got any suggestion for a xmms like audio player that plays directly of unmounted samba shares?
[03:50] <htraki> I meant throw
[03:50] <Hardcopi> This is my 2nd cd. I tried burnign the dvd then the cd and I have never had a bad disc burned by this drive before cd or dvd.
[03:50] <MilhousePunkRock> Hardcopi: Maybe you just did not notice... Is the MD5 sum of the downloaded iso what it's supposed to be?
[03:51] <Hardcopi> I'll try the self test though. Yeah, the MD5 said it was ok. I will try the self test. Thanks.
[03:52] <htraki> rob_:The problem is without mounting FS no chanche to read a file
[03:52] <shadeofgrey> hey everyboidy
[03:52] <shadeofgrey> i have aquestion
[03:52] <htraki> hello shadeofgrey
[03:53] <zered> Hi again
[03:53] <zered> No problemo with kde 3.5.4
[03:53] <shadeofgrey> is there any way to move the taskbar list of open programs and the 4 window selector thing that are usuyally rihght next to the time to the top of the screen by any chance?
[03:53] <zered> But no solution for my icon for my link on my desktop
[03:55] <BluesKaj> shadeofgrey, right click on the panel . choose config panel
[03:55] <rob_> htraki: well, it should be possible by using KIOslaves. Kaffeine and Kmplayer play directly from an unmounted smb share without problems.
[03:56] <rob_> The only problem is that for mp3's, i prefer a xmms/winamp like application
[03:57] <htraki> rob_:I think kioslaves does the mounting job 4 U
[03:58] <htraki> Thats why kde based apps can read the fs
[03:58] <htraki> tried amaroK??
[03:58] <MilhousePunkRock> How come I do not have a seperate /boot partition?
[03:59] <rob_> yes i have, but amarok crashes when i drop an mp3 from a smb share in the playlist..
[03:59] <rob_> MillhousePunkRock: because it is nog necesarry to have one...
[03:59] <narvik86> hello
[03:59] <htraki> xmms like mp3 player is bmp,tried too?
[04:00] <htraki> bmp:beep media palyer
[04:00] <rob_> hmm, not yet...
[04:00] <rob_> i'm gonna try that one now
[04:00] <htraki> gtk2 based app
[04:01] <htraki> Milhouserock:Because U didnot created any
[04:02] <htraki> It is not req to create sep. /boot part
[04:03] <narvik86> does kubuntu/ubuntu has got any additional repositiory with java, flash etc ?
[04:03] <rob_> htraki: tried beep media player.... didn't work either...
[04:03] <narvik86> rob_, http://bmpx.beep-media-player.org/site/Downloads#Ubuntu
[04:04] <htraki> narivik86:flash player dont have any deb on the net,java is downloadable
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. Trying to get Firefox to start Maxamized - but the windows settings tools dont seem to be affecting that.
[04:05] <Hardcopi> CD checked out fine with the self test, it still getting "translated ata stat/err  device dm-0" :(
[04:06] <narvik86> but i heard that there is official repositorty with that, but have to be added by user
[04:07] <htraki> narvik86: yes,true
[04:07] <narvik86> my firefox remember last window state, so its usually maximized
[04:07] <narvik86> htraki, do you know where can i find it?
[04:08] <htraki> Yes, iam browsing for the link
[04:08] <narvik86> ok thanks
[04:09] <htraki> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java page will U find every info U need
[04:10] <carlos> go go go...
[04:10] <carlos> algum brazuca ae?
[04:10] <[BR] CarLos_> :D
[04:11] <[BR] CarLos_> kuvuntu rlz
[04:11] <htraki> narvik86: In your sources.list did U added multiverse and the universe repos?
[04:11] <[BR] CarLos_> *kubuntu
[04:11] <narvik86> htraki, let me see
[04:12] <Billybobbob> hey
[04:12] <Admiral_Chicago> anyone know a calendar app?
[04:12] <Billybobbob> belgium ppl here?
[04:13] <Admiral_Chicago> soulrider, your system working?
[04:13] <Admiral_Chicago> I know you were changing stuff around yesterday
[04:14] <soulrider> hi
[04:14] <soulrider> ye, its working great now
[04:14] <rob_> narvik86: hmm, bmpx doesn't work at all on my pc, do you know if ik should be able to play smb:// files directly?
[04:14] <soulrider> i got tons of help yesterday =D
[04:14] <Admiral_Chicago> cool
[04:14] <narvik86> rob_ don't know, cant get my samba to work
[04:15] <htraki> Admiral, evolution is 4 U
[04:15] <Billybobbob> is it possible for using my files in xp from my kubuntu?
[04:15] <soulrider> hey rr72
[04:16] <soulrider> err
[04:16] <Billybobbob> help i'm a noob in linux
[04:16] <Admiral_Chicago> Billybobbob, yes
[04:16] <Admiral_Chicago> wait
[04:16] <soulrider> he left =(
[04:16] <Billybobbob> k
[04:16] <rr72> what soulrider?
[04:16] <soulrider> Billybobbob: whats two of us
[04:16] <Billybobbob> hehe
[04:16] <soulrider> ah, youc hanged you nick :P
[04:16] <Admiral_Chicago> you want to see your kubuntu files in xp?
[04:16] <Billybobbob> no
[04:16] <soulrider> im gonna try and install ET on this machine adn see what happens :P
[04:16] <rr72> Chicago FTW!
[04:16] <Billybobbob> from xp in this
[04:16] <Admiral_Chicago> xp files on kubuntu?
[04:16] <Billybobbob> yes
[04:17] <Admiral_Chicago> rr72, you from chicago?
[04:17] <rr72> Burbs
[04:17] <Admiral_Chicago> check out #ubuntu-chicago!
[04:17] <Admiral_Chicago> thats the LoCo team we started
[04:17] <rr72> noones here
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs
[04:17] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[04:17] <Admiral_Chicago> !fstab
[04:17] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[04:17] <htraki> narvik86:these are ok.
[04:17] <Admiral_Chicago> Billybobbob, check out those links
[04:17] <[BR] CarLos_> :D
[04:18] <Billybobbob> k thnx
[04:18] <htraki> narvik86: U left the main repo
[04:18] <narvik86> htraki ok, i pasted only few lines from file
[04:19] <soulrider> err run files were opened this way tight?:  /.nameoffile
[04:19] <rr72> ok i thought it was only ubuntu and kubuntu, whats eduntu and exuntu?
[04:20] <soulrider> and i had to chmod them first
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> !xububtu
[04:20] <htraki> narvik86: apt-get update command, or adept refresh
[04:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about xububtu - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> !xubuntu
[04:20] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[04:20] <[BR] CarLos_> bua... Kubuntu don't have my sound driver... :'(
[04:21] <htraki> Carlos: what sound card do U have?
[04:21] <[BR] CarLos_> ALC880
[04:21] <grothesk> [BR] CarLos_: kubuntu has no soundriver at all.
[04:21] <grothesk> But ALSA has...
[04:21] <narvik86> i thought it is oss?
[04:21] <[BR] CarLos_> I got a driver on Asus' site
[04:22] <[BR] CarLos_> and I'm trying compile
[04:22] <htraki> Motherboard's chipsets matters
[04:22] <grothesk> [BR] CarLos_: Link to Asus site?
[04:22] <htraki> What kind of chipset do U have?
[04:22] <[BR] CarLos_> one moment
[04:23] <Ace2007> how do i install all the dev packages needed to compile vlc, i think its like sudo dpkg build something vlc
[04:23] <grothesk> Ace2007: Why will you compile it yourself?
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> fire up the package manager, search for vlc, and any -dev pscages with the same vlc-dev name
[04:24] <Ace2007> grothesk: I want to enable the qt4 interface, dvd and wmv9
[04:25] <htraki> Ace2007:Mplayer already plays them
[04:25] <Ace2007> i know but it doesn't have a qt interface
[04:25] <htraki> Just download w32codecs package
[04:25] <Ace2007> htraki: I don't like the skins you can get for it
[04:26] <Ace2007> the skins don't match my desktop :(
[04:26] <htraki> Try kmplayer or kaffiene
[04:26] <rob_> Ace2007: kmplayer is a mplayer frontend... works perfectly and has a nice kde layou
[04:27] <Ace2007> please stop giving me alternatives
[04:27] <Ace2007> i just want to know how to install the dev packages needed to compile it
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> !apt-get
[04:27] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> theres some command i recall that ive never used. :P that rebuilds the package from source.. so that will install all the needed dev stuff.
[04:28] <grothesk> Ace2007: Start compiling it an have a look at the error messages.
[04:28] <htraki> Fire up adept and install build-essentials
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> well buil-essentials is the minimal tools. not  the 1000's of -dev packages that may be needed  :)
[04:30] <htraki> after that U have to all the packages U need to compile vlc
[04:30] <htraki> I wish U good work
[04:30] <grothesk> htraki: That is (for sure) not right.
[04:31] <htraki> Read vlc's homepage what do U need 4 compiling
[04:33] <grothesk> [BR] CarLos_: Still interested in your audiodriver?
[04:34] <Ace2007> Does anyone know how to stop konqueror going to wrong commands i type in ALT+F2?
[04:34] <narvik86> which sound system is used in kubuntu? oss or alsa? how can i know which is using now?
[04:34] <Admiral_Chicago> narvik86, I use OSS
[04:35] <Admiral_Chicago> Ace2007, configure shortcuts
[04:35] <htraki> All linuxes are using alsa, many of them in OSS emulation
[04:35] <Admiral_Chicago> in the settings
[04:35] <htraki> after 2.6 kernel of course
[04:36] <[BR] CarLos_> grothesk: my chipset is intel 915PL
[04:37] <vinibaggio> Hi! I'm having trouble to use java-based applications. I'm trying to use jEdit but I can't type double quotes ("), only single quotes '. I'm using us-international keyboard layout...
[04:37] <htraki> Alright, south Bridge ICH5/6 should have to work
[04:37] <MetaMorfoziS> Qt: 3.3.6
[04:37] <MetaMorfoziS> KDE: 3.5.4
[04:37] <MetaMorfoziS> kde-config: 1.0
[04:37] <MetaMorfoziS> oujeah
[04:38] <Ace2007> Admiral_Chicago: Where? in kcontrol?
[04:38] <Admiral_Chicago> nolte, open up konqueror and look at the settings up in the menu
[04:38] <Admiral_Chicago> and its configure shortcuts
[04:38] <htraki> vinibaggio:did u install sun-java runtime?
[04:39] <vinibaggio> htraki: I have both JRE and JDK from sun
[04:39] <htraki> tried other java editor progarms?
[04:40] <vinibaggio> htraki: netbeans
[04:40] <nikkne> hi, how can I find out which packages were updated during the last two days?
[04:40] <nikkne> and which files they have touched?
[04:41] <vinibaggio> I'm using eclipse atm, and it works with double quotes, since its GTK. But Swing applications like jedit and netbeans dont work
[04:41] <htraki> nikkne: Fire up adept and do refresh
[04:42] <Ace2007> rob_: You know kmplayer can it go full screen on double click of the video area?
[04:42] <grothesk> [BR] CarLos_: What does 'lspci' tell you about your sound?
[04:42] <nikkne> htraki: I've meant which were updated on my machine, not in the repository
[04:43] <htraki> nikkene: No automatic update in the system, U have to do it by hand
[04:45] <[BR] CarLos_> grothesk: I will see
[04:45] <nikkne> ok, lets rephrase: i want to see which packages were downloaded and installed on my system, during the last two days
[04:45] <nikkne> which commands should I look for?
[04:45] <clintc_laptop> any kmail users out there?
[04:45] <nikkne> where is the log for apt-get?
[04:46] <gplfighter> clintc_laptop: yes, why?
[04:46] <htraki> nikkene: /var/log/dpkg.log file will help U
[04:46] <nikkne> htraki: thanks
[04:46] <[BR] CarLos_> grothesk:
[04:46] <[BR] CarLos_> Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High De
[04:46] <[BR] CarLos_> finition Audio Controller (rev 05)
[04:47] <clintc_laptop> l really like kmail except for one thing - I can't seem to delete a message from an open message window
[04:47] <linuxgoober> azureus does a lot of crashing on my laptop. I have all the required and recommended packages installed? waht is the problem?
[04:47] <gplfighter> i'll check it
[04:47] <clintc_laptop> gplfighter: I don't like reading email in the preview pane
[04:47] <gplfighter> k
[04:47] <htraki> linuxgoober: I think instalbel program
[04:48] <clintc_laptop> gplfighter: I've searched high and low for a setting or a way to add delete to the toolbar... no luck so far
[04:48] <Ace2007> Admiral_Chicago: Still won't work
[04:48] <Admiral_Chicago> Ace2007, what do you want to do?
[04:48] <Admiral_Chicago> exactly
[04:48] <Ace2007> If i make an error in ALT+F2 it gets searched for by konqueror, i just want the error saying hey buddy wrong command try again
[04:48] <grothesk> [BR] CarLos_: lsmod | grep intel
[04:49] <gplfighter> clintc_laptop: i think it's impossible?
[04:49] <shadedpast> can some on help me? neither of my cd drives appear in media
[04:49] <ubuntu_> Hi!
[04:49] <clintc_laptop> gplfighter: I was coming to the same conclusion :(
[04:49] <Ace2007> Admiral_Chicago: like if i type google, i don't want to end up at google i want an error
[04:49] <[BR] CarLos_> grothesk: snd_hda_intel and snd_hda_codec
[04:49] <luisf> exit
[04:50] <htraki> shadedpast:Did U mount a media?
[04:50] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm
[04:50] <shadedpast> no
[04:50] <grothesk> [BR] CarLos_: This already is the right driver.
[04:50] <shadedpast> ???
[04:50] <Admiral_Chicago> I don't know man, I thought you were trying to change your shortcuts
[04:50] <Admiral_Chicago> sorry
[04:50] <Ace2007> Admiral_Chicago: I changed the browser to opera so its just trys to open with whatever the current browser is
[04:50] <Billybobbob> next time ppl and linux rulezzzz
[04:51] <shadedpast>  no how what do u mean?
[04:51] <clintc_laptop> gplfighter: thanks for taking a look, I might to sumit that as a feature request
[04:51] <Ace2007> Admiral_Chicago: ok thanks anyway
[04:51] <gplfighter> good idea :-)
[04:51] <Ace2007> I know #kde will know
[04:52] <htraki> Carlos, what mp3 player do U use?
[04:53] <[BR] CarLos_> htraki: amarok
[04:53] <htraki> lets see, what output did U setup.
[04:53] <[BR] CarLos_> htraki: okz
[04:54] <[BR] CarLos_> htraki: its auto-detect
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> Cool.. i just found about     apt:/    :)
[04:55] <htraki> open the list, it should be arts,alsa,oss or something like that
[04:57] <linuxgoober> when i run sudo apt-get upgrade dist-update i get a message saying that linux-image-386 and linux-restricted-modules-386 have been kept back. what
[04:57] <linuxgoober> s up
[04:57] <htraki> linuxgobber: apt-get update for repo udate ...
[04:58] <kraut> moin
[04:58] <htraki> ..and dist-update is for complette update dont do it
[04:58] <soulrider> guys,w hatw as the command to open a .un file? i tried /. ./ and stuff like that.....
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> a .run ya mean?
[04:58] <soulrider> yea
[04:58] <linuxgoober> i ran sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade dist-update
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> sh whatever.run
[04:58] <soulrider> .run
[04:58] <soulrider> ah
[04:58] <soulrider> thanks
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> or chmod +x whatever.run
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> ./whatever.run
[04:59] <soulrider> i did chmod
[04:59] <soulrider> and tried ./ but didnt work
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> it should of. :P
[04:59] <jontec> How can I ger sudo privelidges inside Konqueror.
[04:59] <jontec> ?
[04:59] <[BR] CarLos_> htraki: alsa, oss, esd and file
[04:59] <soulrider> jontec
[04:59] <soulrider> open run command and type
[04:59] <soulrider> kdesu konqueror
[04:59] <Jucato> jontec: launch Konqueror a
[05:00] <Jucato> eheh soulrider beat me to it
[05:00] <soulrider> =D
[05:00] <htraki> Carlos: Switch off arts daemon in the system settings, or install amarok-arts plugin
[05:00] <[BR] CarLos_> okz
[05:01] <soulrider> Dr_Willis: i get this error:bash: /.: is a directory
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> hmmm what are ya typing exactly? could bethe script is messed up
[05:02] <soulrider> mauro@tupperware:/media/sda3$ /. et-linux-2.55.x86.run
[05:02] <soulrider> bash: /.: is a directory
[05:02] <Dr_Willis>  ./command to run
[05:02] <narvik86> ./et-
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> not /. :P
[05:02] <nnn0> slashdot
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> and sh et-*
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> should work also. ive done it befor.
[05:03] <soulrider> ah lol
[05:03] <mani_> hi everybody !
[05:03] <soulrider> heh, not i get permission denied, although i CHMOD it
[05:03] <htraki> hi mani_
[05:04] <mani_> i need some help in encoding avi to dvd and then creating menus
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> then i would guess ya chmoded it wrong
[05:04] <mani_> how do i go about doing it ?
[05:04] <bojan> are the kubuntu packages for kde 3.5.4 fixed?  or do they still have the default settings bug?
[05:05] <htraki> mani_:use avidemux,but no menus
[05:05] <mani_> htraki: will it help me encode the avis to mpeg ?
[05:05] <Jucato> bojan: AFAIK, they're ok now
[05:05] <htraki> yes
[05:06] <mani_> htraki: should i do someting like sudo apt-get install avidemux ?
[05:06] <soulrider> i CHMOD it with +x and +X and i still get that
[05:07] <htraki> yes, but u can get it with adept if have added universe and multiverse repo in sources.list
[05:07] <mani_> htraki, please tell me how to add universe and multiverse repo ?
[05:08] <htraki> Open /etc/sources.list with an editor first
[05:08] <uniq> mani_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu this will help you :)
[05:09] <htraki> after that should look like this ...
[05:10] <htraki> oops, wrong path.. the right is /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:10] <htraki> deb http://at.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted multiverse universe
[05:10] <rr72> what is the cmd to upgrade to dapper?
[05:11] <soulrider> Dr_Willis: i tried with xhmod +c and +X adns tillca nta cess it
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> !upgrade
[05:11] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[05:11] <mani_> htraki, i have opened sources.list in kate... what should i do next ?
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> soulrider,  51% done. :P
[05:11] <soulrider> O.O
[05:11] <soulrider> speed?
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> soulrider,  53% done
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> 55%
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:11] <soulrider> NICE
[05:11] <htraki> compare with mine ...
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> 421KB/Sec
[05:11] <soulrider> i download at 50 so ti takes a but longer
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> Clan Kubuntu! :P
[05:12] <htraki> should mani_:look like this..
[05:12] <soulrider> lol could be cool Dr_Willis
[05:12] <htraki> deb http://at.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted multiverse universe
[05:12] <soulrider> can i chmod from krusader?
[05:12] <soulrider> krusader root-mode that is
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> sh whatever.run dident work?
[05:13] <mani_> htraki, the first line is: deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> You are thinking in the 'windows way'     "THis dident work.. lets try somthong  else thats  just MAY work" :)
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> 75%
[05:13] <soulrider> err
[05:13] <soulrider> i lvoe you! <3
[05:14] <soulrider> sh worked :P
[05:14] <soulrider> i feel like a moron now
[05:14] <htraki> add universe multiverse to the end
[05:14] <Dr_Willis>  i told ya that how long ago? :P
[05:14] <soulrider> i know...
[05:14] <soulrider> the thing is alst time i installed i used ./ and it worked
[05:14] <soulrider> which is weird
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> if its chmoded +x it should work
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> since it reads the first line of the file as to what to run.
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> and if ya read that file. it proberly starts with  #!/bin/sh
[05:15] <soulrider> i get ane rror whne trying to install, woot
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> 98% done. :P
[05:16] <[BR] CarLos_> htraki: I will restart.. the artsd engine for amarok don'r appear
[05:16] <[BR] CarLos_> thx
[05:16] <soulrider> lol
[05:17] <soulrider> i went to the ID software site adn it sais that to fix the rror i gotta...
[05:17] <soulrider> This may happening on old quake3 setups. Get the latest one, it will work right ( currently linuxq3apoint-1.32b-3.x86.run, which you can find on id's ftp )
[05:17] <soulrider> which doesnt help AT aLL
[05:17] <mani_> htraki, i have added. i saved the file. then i opened adept and searched... it says no results
[05:17] <htraki> mani_: Do refresh in adept
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> soulrider,  whats the error?
[05:18] <soulrider> setup.sh: line 143:  8294 Segmentation fault      "$setup" "$@" 2>>$NULL
[05:18] <soulrider> The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.1
[05:18] <htraki> mani_: Or do apt-get update asroot
[05:18] <kbrooks> !RAM
[05:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about RAM - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:18] <kbrooks> !ram
[05:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about ram - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:18] <kbrooks> !free
[05:18] <ubotu> freedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing
[05:18] <kbrooks> hmm
[05:18] <soulrider> yay! new kdesktop for donwload
[05:18] <Kr4t05> !botabuse
[05:18] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[05:19] <kbrooks> i need to know how much RAM i have left
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> soulrider,  let me see if mine instlls
[05:19] <soulrider> k
[05:19] <soulrider> rr72: had this problem too and i think he couldnt fix it :/
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> its intalling :P
[05:20] <uniq> kbrooks: 'free -m'
[05:20] <soulrider> .......
[05:20] <soulrider> hang on
[05:20] <rr72> soulrider~ what?
[05:20] <soulrider> could you instal et?
[05:20] <rr72> don't think  so
[05:20] <soulrider> http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/q3a/index.html#glibc
[05:20] <kbrooks> uniq: what is the total amount of fre RAM
[05:20] <uniq> kbrooks: free+cached.
[05:20] <soulrider> what if i follow: Installation on BSD
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> http://files.filefront.com/Enemy+Territory+for+Linux/;852003;;/fileinfo.html              is where i downloded mine from
[05:21] <soulrider> rtcwfiles.com ?
[05:21] <kbrooks> 88 MB
[05:21] <soulrider> let me get an md5 sum
[05:21] <uniq> kbrooks: i tend to use 'htop' for this. it is more visualized.
[05:21] <rr72> htop FTW!
[05:21] <kbrooks> "htop"?
[05:22] <soulrider> yes thats ht eone i got
[05:22] <soulrider> and i gotta go have lunch now, ill bbl
[05:22] <soulrider> see ya!
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> intstlled fine, works fine for me...
[05:22] <uniq> kbrooks: yes, you might have to install it. but it is nice. :)
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> htop is nice.
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:23] <kbrooks> what is htop?
[05:23] <uniq> a more adavanced version of 'top'
[05:23] <uniq> !info htop
[05:23] <ubotu> htop: interactive processes viewer. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.6-1 (dapper), package size 42 kB, installed size 164 kB
[05:24] <eduard> anybody work with qemu and kqemu?
[05:26] <luke_> how do i enable the restricted repository in /etc/apt/sources.list? i can only find out how to enable the universe and multiverse
[05:29] <abattoir> luke_: the same way you enable universe and multiverse... just add 'restricted' in the same line...( i think it should be there by default)
[05:30] <luke_> ah okies thanks abattoir
[05:30] <abattoir> luke_: no problem :)
[05:35] <luke_> hmm installing the fglrx driver isnt working
[05:37] <luke_> can anyone help me install ati drivers please?
[05:37] <narvik86> im looking for link for you
[05:38] <luke_> im using the unofficial guide, but it didnt work
[05:38] <Admiral_Chicago> !ati
[05:38] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:38] <Admiral_Chicago> luke_, check that
[05:38] <luke_> thanks =)
[05:39] <narvik86> my link it is :)
[05:40] <luke_> these instructions are the ones that didnt work =/
[05:41] <narvik86> wait a second for another link
[05:42] <narvik86> luke_ http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[05:42] <narvik86> i used first method and it works for me
[05:44] <luke_> hmm mabye i didnt enable the restricted repositorys right
[05:44] <draik> anyone else here going to be in the #ubuntu-classroom?
[05:44] <Jucato> I will! I hope I can stay up that long
[05:45] <Jucato> it's almost midnight here...
[05:45] <Jucato> umm... there was an update for kubuntu-desktop? what was it about? does it fix anything?
[05:45] <bl3ssing> hello everyone.
[05:46] <bl3ssing> sure jucato ...
[05:46] <bl3ssing> it is updating your kubuntu 5.10 to kubuntu 6.0.6 (just do it, it deserves ...)
[05:46] <draik> Hello Jucato
[05:46] <bl3ssing> Jucato, but I rather recommend you with the alternative ...
[05:46] <Jucato> umm..
[05:46] <Jucato> it was just a few minutes ago?
[05:47] <luke_> my sources list is broke
[05:47] <bl3ssing> ok guys. Here's my request: how can I compile a tar.gz file so that I could use the compiled files ... as a certain application
[05:47] <bl3ssing> ?
[05:47] <narvik86> luke_ i can show you my sources.list if yu want
[05:47] <draik> Jucato, the class will begin in ~3h15m
[05:47] <bl3ssing> luke_, I can give you mine source list if you want?
[05:48] <bl3ssing> luke_, I can give you my source list if you want?
[05:48] <bl3ssing> :D
[05:48] <Jucato> draik: hope I can stay up that long.. :-D
[05:48] <luke_> navik86: when i do /etc/apt/sources.list it comes back blank, will that fix it?
[05:48] <draik> are you a registered user?
[05:48] <narvik86> what comes blank??
[05:48] <Sikon> is it possible to add custom folders to the "system" menu which is on the taskbar by default?
[05:48] <Jucato> The update to kubuntu-desktop I was talking about was just made available a few minutes/hours ago? the one from version 0.85 to 0.86.
[05:49] <luke_> sources.list
[05:49] <Jucato> draik: I was under the impression that I don't need to register...
[05:49] <draik> Jucato, you don't have to. I'm just saying that I can save the lecture and send it to you through /msg
[05:49] <soulrider> Sikon: right click and then edit menu
[05:50] <bl3ssing> luke_, thisi s for you: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19780
[05:50] <Sikon> not the K menu
[05:50] <Jucato> ah yes, my nick is registered if that's what you mean?
[05:50] <Sikon> the one whose icon is a computer
[05:50] <luke_> thanks bl3ssing =D
[05:50] <draik> yup, that's what I meant. :)
[05:50] <capricorn_tm> Hi there^__^
[05:50] <Jucato> but I'll try to attend. it's the first IRC meeting I will ever attend
[05:50] <capricorn_tm> Hi Jucato^_^
[05:51] <bl3ssing> np luke_  ... hope it will work to you ( i have kubuntu 6.0.6 [just a few days ago updated] )
[05:51] <Jucato> hi capricorn_tm
[05:51] <luke_> yeh i got it yesterday =)
[05:51] <Jucato> this is the first time I've actually used IRC again in almost 5 years
[05:52] <bl3ssing> luke_,  ... heheeheh.. That's grat. Than ... just copy my sourses.list into yours, and everything'll be more than perfect (not really, only God is perfect, right?)
[05:52] <capricorn_tm> I have  aquestion dudes, My laptop keyboard is giving his soul, so I plugged an external keyboarda but it does not work, do I have to change something in teh settings?
[05:52] <luke_> hehe true bl3ssing
[05:52] <narvik86> luke_ see mine sources.list?
[05:53] <luke_> yeh thanks as well =)
[05:53] <luke_> i couldnt talk cos of being unregistered
[05:53] <narvik86> ok  :) i new to IRC
[05:53] <narvik86> i'm*
[05:53] <bl3ssing> capricorn_tm, ... the external keyboard (if it is on usb connected) will make some problems at its first time using, but ... unplug and plug it again ... and it will work.
[05:53] <luke_> me too lol
[05:54] <stef> http://www.domeinen-online.nl
[05:54] <mani_> hi all ! can anyone tell me how i can convert my avi files to mpeg (so i can author a DVD) ?
[05:54] <thompa> i got a badly damaged cd need to rip it
[05:54] <bl3ssing> stef, can you give us some english websites, please?
[05:54] <bl3ssing> :D
[05:55] <rr72> after apt-get dist-upgrade i don't need to do a normal upgrade right?
[05:55] <bl3ssing> mani_, hacking or becoming a real author?
[05:55] <bl3ssing> :D
[05:55] <thompa> i need something that will rip damaged cds
[05:55] <bl3ssing> rr72, NOPE!
[05:55] <rr72> well i mean i will but not right after
[05:55] <mani_> bl3ssing, kinda both
[05:56] <bl3ssing> rr72, if you have followed the rules from the website of kubuntu, you won't be asked to do a normal one ... (it will be a normal one from the first upgrading :D)
[05:56] <rr72> if u do a normal one then ur screwed, it wont boot
[05:56] <bl3ssing> mani_, ... sshhhhh (maybe there's some FBI guys here and ... what are we going to do with them?) We can do smthng (sending them to their office and taking their internet connection OFF).:D
[05:57] <bl3ssing> rr72, you don't mean it, right?
[05:57] <bl3ssing> what are you doing rr72 ? what kind of updating?
[05:57] <capricorn_tm> @bl3ssing That's it? Actually I do that but it keeps giving me this message "device not accepting address 30, error -110"
[05:57] <narvik86> luke_ are you trying to install ati?
[05:57] <rr72> breezy to dapper
[05:57] <luke_> narvik86: yep
[05:58] <narvik86> luke_ good luck! first method?
[05:58] <luke_> narvik86 thanks! =), yep hop it works this time
[05:58] <capricorn_tm> @bl3ssing That's it? Actually I do that but it keeps giving me this message "device not accepting address 30, error -110"
[05:58] <Jucato> anyone using KDE 3.5.4 have trouble displaying unmounted partitions?
[05:58] <bl3ssing> capricorn_tm, what kind of keyboard're you using?
[05:59] <bl3ssing> the manufactoring ...?
[05:59] <bl3ssing> capricorn_tm, I can READ without any problems (once it will be enough) :D ... hehhehehe
[05:59] <capricorn_tm> That seems to be the problem, it is a PS2 with an adapter to USB. when I plug it in, the lights on it go on for a second than off and then nothing
[05:59] <capricorn_tm> sorry bl3ssing, wrong touch :P
[06:00] <bl3ssing> that's why you have problems (conflicts between ps2/usb adapt
[06:00] <luke_> gah it cant find the linux modules
[06:00] <bl3ssing> don't be sorry capricorn_tm, it is ok. :)
[06:00] <luke_> *linux-restricted-modules
[06:00] <capricorn_tm> Thinl teh PS2 adapter is faulty?
[06:00] <bl3ssing> luke_, manage repositories in Adept.
[06:00] <bl3ssing> yeap capricorn_tm ... even in WindowsXP is the same.
[06:00] <bl3ssing> :D
[06:01] <narvik86> uname -r  ?
[06:01] <Jucato> luksan_: are you looking for the updated linux restricted modules?
[06:01] <bl3ssing> in windowsXP finally it is working, but still giving problems every since in a while.
[06:01] <capricorn_tm> Ouch, I suppose I will be able to solve that only monday then, my USB keyboard is at the job place
[06:01] <Jucato> luke_: are you looking for the updated linux restricted modules?
[06:01] <bl3ssing> hehehehe capricorn_tm
[06:01] <luke_> jucato i think so, am trying to install the ati drivers
[06:02] <Jucato> Oh, you have to add "restricted" to the security-updates repository
[06:02] <capricorn_tm> You know, My brother bought me two Italian Keybaordas as I'm in Belgium  and he bought both PS2 and so here I am
[06:02] <capricorn_tm> Oh well, I'll get the USB that I have at work at home and use the PS2 on the job
[06:02] <luke_> jucato can i do that in adept?
[06:02] <capricorn_tm> Easy
[06:03] <Jucato> luke_: yep
[06:03] <Jucato> luke_: open up Adept, go to the Adept menu (first one to the left) then Manage Repositories
[06:03] <luke_> jucato ok am there
[06:03] <Jucato> luke_: then look for the "deb -------- security-updates main" line
[06:04] <luke_> jucato i see it
[06:04] <Jucato> click on the word main so that it will becomed editable
[06:04] <bl3ssing> you're right capricorn_tm ... Enjoy your updating ...
[06:04] <bl3ssing> how can I compile a tar.gz file so that I could use the compiled files ... as a certain application
[06:04] <capricorn_tm> One other question since we are talking updates, can i use the stabel packages of debian to upgrade kubuntu tu KDE 3.5.4?
[06:05] <Jucato> luke_:  then add the word "restricted" to main so that it will become "main restricted" (there's a space in between)
[06:05] <luke_> jucato, hang on i have no security updates main, i habe dapper-security
[06:05] <Jucato> oh my bad
[06:05] <Jucato> I meant dapper-security
[06:05] <luke_> oh ok np =)
[06:06] <luke_> so where do i add restricted?
[06:06] <capricorn_tm> Kubuntu breezy I mean
[06:06] <luke_> oh i see it now, done it
[06:06] <Jucato> luke_: click on the word "main" so that you can edit it. then add "restricted" to it so that it becomes "main restricted" (space in between)
[06:07] <luke_> jucato, okies have done it, do i do fetch updates now?
[06:07] <Jucato> click on Apply first
[06:07] <Jucato> to save the changes
[06:08] <Jucato> then Fetch Updates. the latest restricted modules would then be available (linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-xxx)
[06:08] <luke_> okies,
[06:08] <luke_> jocato thanks man =)
[06:08] <Jucato> np. just thank me if it was successful :-D
[06:08] <luke_> haha okies =p
[06:08] <rr72> how long does a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade take?
[06:10] <luke_> can i install fglrx from adept?
[06:10] <Jucato> depends on how much needs to be upgraded
[06:10] <Jucato> anyone using KDE 3.5.4 have trouble displaying unmounted partitions?
[06:10] <capricorn_tm> I would like tio upgarde but I have brezy ^_^''
[06:10] <narvik86> yes
[06:11] <capricorn_tm> can i use the stable Debian packages to upgrade?
[06:11] <narvik86> luke_ yes
[06:11] <Jucato> capricorn_tm: no. it's not recommended to mix repositories
[06:11] <capricorn_tm> I knew it -_-''' Now i HAVE TO INSTALL DAPPER
[06:12] <capricorn_tm> Soory caps
[06:12] <luke_> narvik86 okies thanks =)
[06:12] <steveire> Is that such a problem capricorn_tm?
[06:12] <capricorn_tm> Look guys, is dapper any good? I heard horror tales on how Multimedia does not work at all
[06:13] <grothesk> capricorn_tm: As in most linux distributions you have to care for yourself.
[06:13] <Admiral_Chicago> capricorn_tm, probably from people that didn't know what they were doing
[06:13] <Admiral_Chicago> dapper is awesome
[06:13] <capricorn_tm> I'm for upgrading, but after all the tinkering I did on breezy losing the fact to be able to watch WMV ( God forgive me, i used the W word) in konqueror would bug me a bit yes
[06:13] <steveire> Fewer people who have a problem free experience with it will think to rant about it capricorn_tm. I get on fine with it
[06:13] <Jucato> Kubuntu Dapper is better than Breezy for me
[06:13] <Lynoure> capricorn_tm: you are on Kubunt channel, most people here like it, I bet. :)
[06:13] <Jucato> It's defionitely faster and more stable on my system
[06:14] <Lynoure> capricorn_tm: I like it, too. Proprietary stuff requires some proprietary codexs but that is handly surprising
[06:14] <capricorn_tm> If you guys do say so, okay, i'm off to download the Cd, point is I had teh impression it wasn't stable... Eugenia On OSnews bashed it very badly but after all Eugenia lately seem always on PMS :P
[06:15] <Admiral_Chicago> capricorn_tm, I have had little problems with Dapper
[06:15] <Admiral_Chicago> much less than Windows
[06:15] <Admiral_Chicago> and less than Breezy
[06:15] <capricorn_tm> That , I had with almost any linux, even Slackware :))
[06:15] <luksan_> Jucato: no, i'm not looking for the updated linux restricted modules ;-)
[06:15] <bl3ssing> how can I install a source code guys?
[06:15] <capricorn_tm> God I do love my penguin so much^_^
[06:15] <capricorn_tm> ... that sounded a bit weird uh' :))
[06:15] <luke_> when i do fglrxinfo it doesnt show up my card, it shows Mesa project =s
[06:16] <narvik86> luke_ did you install xorg-driver-fglrx?
[06:16] <luke_> narvik86 yep i did
[06:17] <Lynoure> capricorn_tm: No weirder than I would expect from a person who says that someone is on PMS... Not everyone likes every distro.
[06:17] <narvik86> and aticonfug --initial?
[06:17] <luke_> narvik86 do i hav to install xorg-driver-dev as well?
[06:17] <narvik86> config*
[06:17] <TheMoebius> I have libqt4 installed but i seem to be using the qt3 toolchain.  running qmake -v tells me Qt 3.3.6 how can I switch to qt4 toolchain?
[06:17] <Jucato> Dapper isn't perfect, that's for sure. But it's good enough for me. :-D
[06:17] <narvik86> luke_ dev is not needed
[06:17] <capricorn_tm> Believe me, do this test, go on OSnews and search all the latest articles by Eugenia Loli Queru and then you'll see what i mean
[06:17] <luke_> narvik86 okies
[06:18] <narvik86> did you reboot?
[06:18] <narvik86> :)
[06:18] <luke_> narvik86 theres a plan =p
[06:18] <capricorn_tm> okay, all my problems are solved, thanks dudes, off to work again
[06:18] <capricorn_tm> see ya^_^
[06:18] <steveire> bl3ssing: What does it mean to install a source code?
[06:18] <Lynoure> dudes...
[06:18] <Lynoure> pfff.
[06:19] <bl3ssing> steveire, I have a source code program (it must be compiled in order to be runed, right?) ...
[06:19] <bl3ssing> steveire, I don't know how to do it. :(
[06:19] <narvik86> yes
[06:19] <steveire> Is it in c code?
[06:19] <steveire> if it is then yes.
[06:20] <narvik86> bl3ssing, unpack archive if it is tar.gz or similiar
[06:20] <bl3ssing> narvik86, I did it. And ... than?
[06:21] <steveire> what extension do the files have?
[06:21] <narvik86> bl3ssing, go to this directory in console
[06:21] <Raven301> When I click the admin button in file sharing in systemsettings ... I still can't do anything, there is still nothing to select. What can I do to fix this??
[06:22] <narvik86> luke_ and?
[06:22] <rr72> How do i stop flicker on my monitor?
[06:23] <rr72> bugs the crap out of me
[06:23] <luke_> narvik86 hmm the flgrxinfo still doesnt show my card, just Mesa project
[06:23] <narvik86> bl3ssing try to type ./configure
[06:23] <rr72> i see horizontal flickers on my screen
[06:23] <larson9999> Raven301: i don't know if this is your problem but for me depending on which menu and when i click the admin button it either hangs or takes FOREVER to come back so i can do things.  for instance in the network section if i don't wait for it to finish detecting my configuration before i click admin mode it just hangs.
[06:24] <narvik86> luke_ maybe you picked up bad restricted packets?
[06:24] <w00t> some one know cryptcat
[06:24] <w00t> ?
[06:25] <narvik86> luke_ for sure try this in console: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[06:25] <luke_> narvik86 mabye, theres a work around online ill try that first =)
[06:26] <narvik86> luke_ ok
[06:26] <soulrider> yay! i gto ET working!!!
[06:26] <soulrider> but wiht no sound :P
[06:27] <narvik86> my warsow game is also without sound :/
[06:27] <Raven301> larson9999: thanks
[06:27] <Raven301> I'll try that
[06:28] <Jucato> any ideas if the HAL/unmounted media is a bug?
[06:28] <larson9999> Raven301: what are you trying to administer?
[06:28] <luke_> narvik86 gonna reboot n see if that fixed it
[06:28] <Raven301> file sharing in systemsettings
[06:29] <larson9999> Raven301: oh, i don't do that so i don't know if that gives me problems or not
[06:29] <Raven301> larson9999: thanks anyways
[06:29] <rr72> ok who saved my siglann 11 error trouble with taht export command?
[06:29] <larson9999> Raven301: sure, let me know if you learn anything good
[06:30] <Raven301> larson9999: ok ... i will
[06:30] <rr72> the gcc version thing
[06:30] <shadedpast> can someone help me and tell me how to upgrade from breezy to dapper?
[06:30] <Admiral_Chicago> shadedpast, check this
[06:30] <Admiral_Chicago> !upgrade
[06:30] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[06:31] <rr72> Admiral_Chicago~ at least u can type instead of speaking ;)
[06:31] <Admiral_Chicago> rr72, for real
[06:31] <Admiral_Chicago> on the chi ubuntu team page
[06:32] <shadedpast> There is no update-manager
[06:32] <Admiral_Chicago> there is a blog i made specifically about how much I'll be on IRC
[06:32] <Admiral_Chicago> shadedpast, did you use the quotes?
[06:32] <shadedpast> no
[06:32] <Admiral_Chicago> need them
[06:32] <rr72> i need help again
[06:32] <rr72> i forgot how to export GCC version
[06:32] <Admiral_Chicago> !gcc
[06:32] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:32] <rr72> someone told me a week ago, it helped me
[06:33] <shadedpast> still won't
[06:33] <bl3ssing> ps aux|grep adept
[06:33] <bl3ssing> 1000      5159  0.0  0.1   2876   800 pts/5    S+   12:32   0:00 grep adept
[06:33] <rr72> ill search my .bash
[06:33] <bl3ssing> how can I destroy this adept?
[06:33] <rr72> killall -9
[06:33] <bl3ssing> already done it rr72 .. not working.
[06:33] <bl3ssing> :(
[06:34] <Admiral_Chicago> did you use spaces and dashes correctly?
[06:34] <rr72> it should be gone
[06:34] <shadedpast> is this for kubuntu???
[06:34] <Admiral_Chicago> that's how I updated to dapper and I had no problems
[06:34] <bl3ssing> shadedpast, yes.
[06:34] <Admiral_Chicago> yes
[06:34] <narvik86> luke_ ?
[06:34] <rr72> bl3ssing~ u will always see it when u pipe it
[06:34] <rr72> ps aux | grep will always show that
[06:34] <bl3ssing> sudo killall -9 adept
[06:34] <bl3ssing> adept: no process killed
[06:34] <BluesKaj> ok folks who burns video in k3b ?
[06:34] <rr72> bl3ssing~ its not running
[06:35] <rr72> its a trick
[06:35] <luke_> narvik86 didnt work, im messing about with softlinks to see if thatll get it to work
[06:35] <shadedpast> is there a way with apt-get
[06:35] <bl3ssing> rr72, but I try to start adept, and I can't have it. :(
[06:35] <narvik86> luke_ try to do all steps in console
[06:35] <rr72> kdesu adpet does what?
[06:35] <Admiral_Chicago> shadedpast, you could edit your sources.list
[06:35] <rr72> i don't ue adpet sorry
[06:35] <rr72> im all apt-get
[06:35] <shadedpast> to what
[06:35] <luke_> narvik86 okies
[06:36] <shadedpast> everything is already unquoted
[06:36] <bl3ssing> rr72, which means? what's the difference between apt-get and adept?
[06:36] <BluesKaj> rr72, acmd line purist eh ? :)
[06:36] <rr72> ones gui ones not
[06:36] <Admiral_Chicago> go to run command in the K menu and type kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:36] <rr72> BluesKaj~ no i like kate
[06:36] <rr72> but i ssh so everything is cmd line
[06:36] <shadedpast> i kno but what should i add
[06:36] <soulrider> CLI is a lot faster than if you use hte visual app
[06:36] <rr72> don't add edit
[06:36] <Admiral_Chicago> find and replace everything "breezy" with dapper
[06:36] <narvik86> bl3ssing tried ./configure?
[06:37] <rr72> soulrider~ CLI taht screws me up
[06:37] <shadedpast> o ok
[06:37] <rr72> how do i search a file for somin? cat FILE | grep STRING?
[06:37] <bl3ssing> narvik86, /Desktop/rosegarden-1.2.4/rosegarden-1.2.4$ ./configure
[06:37] <bl3ssing> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[06:37] <bl3ssing> :(
[06:38] <Admiral_Chicago> do a dir
[06:38] <narvik86> wait i will try rosegarden
[06:38] <Admiral_Chicago> and read the INSTALL file
[06:38] <bl3ssing> rr72, apt-cache policy "application"
[06:38] <bl3ssing> :)
[06:38] <rr72> huh?
[06:38] <bl3ssing> apt-cache policy firefox (by example)
[06:38] <bl3ssing> :)
[06:38] <bl3ssing> rr72, I'm talking to you. :d In case you don't know.
[06:38] <bl3ssing> hehehehehe
[06:38] <rr72> that will find the export cmd im looking for?
[06:39] <rr72> cat FILE | grep STRING works fine
[06:39] <rr72> im looking in a file
[06:39] <larson9999> rr72: to search a file you can do 'grep something file
[06:39] <bl3ssing> lol
[06:39] <rr72> larson9999~ are u can cat it ;)
[06:39] <bl3ssing> try grep ... in the file
[06:39] <bl3ssing> like: grep debby sources.list
[06:39] <rr72> im searching my .bash_history but i think its too recent
[06:39] <luke_> narvik86 did that in the console still doesnt work =(
[06:40] <rr72> who logs this chan?
[06:40] <rr72> i would like to /msg
[06:40] <larson9999> rr72: yeah but that's not the 'standard' way.
[06:40] <rr72> larson9999~ nothing is standard
[06:40] <narvik86> luke_ all steps one by one
[06:40] <luke_> narvik86 yep
[06:40] <rr72> !logs
[06:40] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[06:40] <Admiral_Chicago> rr72, ubuntulog?
[06:41] <narvik86> luke_ with reboot?
[06:41] <soulrider> how can i report a bug? because when you install Eclipse-jdt fomt he repos it never gets isntalled correctly
[06:41] <Admiral_Chicago> !bugs
[06:41] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[06:41] <luke_> narvik86 ok ill reboot again
[06:41] <bl3ssing> !logs
[06:41] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[06:41] <narvik86> luke_ console things + reboot
[06:41] <rr72> i don't know the date tho
[06:42] <bl3ssing> narvik86, got it?
[06:43] <narvik86> bl3ssing you will need scons
[06:43] <Admiral_Chicago> narvik86, even better, scones
[06:43] <timthelion> all of a sudden alt navigation's in Konqueror don't work.  ie alt+<- to go back...  why?  how can I solve this?  I looked in Settings-configure shortcuts and the hotkeys are set correctly...
[06:44] <narvik86> ??
[06:45] <_Shade_> hey why i can't gain access to all mounted drives ?
[06:45] <luke_> narvik86 it worked!
[06:45] <Raven301> larson9999: For my problem ... I was missing some samba files
[06:46] <Jucato> _Shade_: I've been asking that for the past half-hour...
[06:46] <bl3ssing> narvik86, how can i get it?
[06:46] <narvik86> bl3ssing in repository but wait
[06:46] <narvik86> bl3ssing other problems :/
[06:47] <narvik86> luke_ cool :)
[06:47] <rr72> it might have been in #ubuntu, ill check those logs in a sec
[06:47] <bl3ssing> cant get in adept. :( not even in aptitude...
[06:47] <luke_> narvik86 thanks man wouldve taken me ages to do that on me own =)
[06:48] <_Shade_> Jucato: have you got any solution then ?
[06:48] <narvik86> luke_ console power :) no problem
[06:48] <luke_> narvik86 haha =)
[06:48] <Jucato> _Shade_: unfortunately, no
[06:48] <gekko`> !fstab
[06:48] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[06:49] <narvik86> where qt is installed?
[06:49] <rr72> why is the log i need 0 bytes?
[06:49] <gekko`> Jucato, _Shade_, you should read that
[06:49] <bl3ssing> narvik86, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19785
[06:50] <linuxgoober> narvik : /usr/share/qt3
[06:50] <narvik86> ty
[06:50] <Jucato> gekko`: which one?
[06:50] <bl3ssing> can anybody check this link? got a problem with opening the aptitude. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19785 (and I assume that it is because something about ADEPt's not allowing me to install/uninstall things)
[06:50] <Kr4t05> !audio
[06:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about audio - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:51] <Kr4t05> !sound
[06:51] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[06:51] <gekko`> !fstab > Jucato
[06:51] <narvik86> bl3ssing with sudo?
[06:51] <rr72> why are the logs i need not here?
[06:51] <rr72> i need for the 24th of july
[06:51] <Jucato> gekko`: my fstab is working. But either HAL or media:/ isn't after upgrading to KDE 3.5.4
[06:52] <narvik86> bl3ssing what you want to install with it?
[06:52] <bl3ssing> narvik86, thank you. How can I find a file to be installed?
[06:52] <BluesKaj> !k3b
[06:52] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/K3BHowto
[06:53] <bl3ssing> narvik86, I want to install scons ... :)
[06:54] <narvik86> to install rosegarden you need scons
[06:54] <nixternal> !classroom
[06:54] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Classroom is a project which aims to tutor users about Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu through biweekly sessions in #ubuntu-classroom - For more information visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom
[06:54] <narvik86> bl3ssing sudo apt-get install scons
[06:55] <nixternal> In approximately 1 hour, #ubuntu-classroom will be providing a basic workshop for the topic, "Introduction to IRC". I will be displaying the KDE/Konversation portion of this class, and there will be an IRSSI portion as well. Everyone is more then welcome to join in on the class. Thank you!
[06:55] <bl3ssing> narvik86, DONE! now ...? :)
[06:55] <w00t> i am looking for a program like look@lan for linux
[06:55] <soulrider> cool, will you publisha  log of the classroom ?
[06:55] <nixternal> yes
[06:56] <soulrider> cool
[06:56] <internet_> hello I have problem ... when I was installing libdc0c2: ...
[06:56] <internet_>  /var/cache/apt/archives/libdc0c2_0.3.7-3_i386.d
[06:56] <internet_> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error c
[06:56] <aliasfred> w00t: describe what look@lan is doing
[06:56] <Jucato> nixternal: would you happen to know if Kopete has a logging feature like Konversation?
[06:56] <nixternal> it used to..let me look really quick
[06:56] <bl3ssing> how can I exit from a directory (in windows's cd..)
[06:56] <internet_> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[06:56] <narvik86> bl3ssing now i hsve problem :/ you can try scons configure
[06:56] <narvik86> cd ..
[06:56] <narvik86> with space
[06:56] <kane___> nixternal: is there some kind of whiteboard you will be using ?
[06:56] <Jucato> thanks nixternal!
[06:57] <nixternal> kane___: it will be IRC ;)  but there will be images to follow along with this time around
[06:57] <nixternal> i am planning on doing screencasts for future classes
[06:57] <kane___> nixternal: images like how ? screenshots on a website ?
[06:58] <aliasfred> internet_ seems weird as it is very unexplicit.do you have enought disk space ?
[06:58] <Kr4t05> I'm having issues with my audio. It stopped working last night while I was trying to find a program for video editing. I've made sure my system is up to date, and I'm not sure what would suddenly cause my system's sound to suddenly stop.
[06:58] <bl3ssing> narvik86, ~/Desktop/rosegarden-1.2.4/rosegarden-1.2.4$ scons ./configure
[06:58] <bl3ssing> scons: Reading SConscript files ...
[06:58] <bl3ssing> Checking for kde-config           :  kde-config was found as /usr/bin/kde-config
[06:58] <bl3ssing> Checking for kde version          :  3.5.2
[06:58] <bl3ssing> Checking for the qt library       :  qt was not found
[06:58] <bl3ssing> Please set QTDIR first (/usr/lib/qt3?) or try scons -h for more options
[06:58] <w00t> it show al te computer that connected on the network
[06:58] <bl3ssing> oops, sorry guys. :D ... where's my webbrowser? :D
[06:58] <w00t> in the ip range a said
[06:58] <aliasfred> w00t: there is fping doing that, but it is not gui
[06:58] <w00t> gui?
[06:59] <bl3ssing> narvik86, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19787
[06:59] <aliasfred> w00t: no graphical interface
[06:59] <w00t> so ?:P
[06:59] <aliasfred> w00t: ah ok, so use fping :)
[06:59] <narvik86> bl3ssing working on it
[06:59] <w00t> ok
[06:59] <w00t> :)
[07:00] <Kr4t05> Ok, dammit.
[07:00] <Kr4t05> Sorry...
[07:00] <Kr4t05> Wrong channel.
[07:03] <nixternal> Jucato: it seems the only way to really log with kopete, is to "File > Save" the session i guess
[07:03] <rouge8> doesn't kopete log by default?
[07:03] <andred> Jucato: nixternal: you just have to enable the history plugin
[07:03] <rouge8> not sure about chats though
[07:04] <nixternal> doh, that is right
[07:04] <narvik86> bl3ssing http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19788 now i have that
[07:04] <damian_> how do you update firefox to a more recent version
[07:04] <nixternal> lol..i was just looking at it and it flat out tells you that
[07:04] <damian_> ?
[07:04] <nixternal> i think ubuntu/kubuntu has the most recent version doesn't it?
[07:04] <damian_> no
[07:04] <nixternal> or did another one come out the past couple of days
[07:04] <damian_> yeah
[07:04] <Jucato> Kopete 0.12.1
[07:04] <damian_> version 1.0.5.6
[07:05] <damian_> i mean 1.5.0.6
[07:05] <nixternal> damian_: if it is a security release, it will be out shortly..however i haven't seen anything in the security list yet
[07:05] <larson9999> firefox is one of the programs i update outside of apt-get
[07:05] <damian_> how do you update outside of apt-get
[07:06] <larson9999> damian_: i just use the download from ff.  i'm not suggesting you do that but it's what i do.  same with ooo
[07:06] <Jucato> hm... barely an hour to go... I'll just switch to konversation...
[07:07] <nixternal> there was a tutorial on ubuntuforums about updating it manually
[07:08] <bl3ssing> narvik86, cool How can I do so that gt3 be a directory for me too? :D
[07:08] <narvik86> qt?
[07:08] <_Shade_> gekko unfortunately it did not help
[07:10] <_Shade_> gekko`: i mean i can't access my mp3 player.... more over - if i do it as root it doesn't copy all the files i want to be copied
[07:10] <narvik86> bl3ssing i used export QTDIR=/usr/share/qt3      but don't know is it correct
[07:10] <damian_> anyone here have a broadcom wireless card
[07:11] <soulrider> what can i use to join 2 video fileS?
[07:11] <narvik86> kino maybe?
[07:11] <chatboy> !sources
[07:11] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:11] <chatboy> !easysource
[07:11] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:11] <soulrider> !nfo kino
[07:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about nfo kino - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:11] <narvik86> info :)
[07:12] <enzo> !info kino
[07:12] <w00t> on fping can i give there a ip range like 10.0.0.0-10.0.1.255 ?
[07:12] <ubotu> kino: Non-linear editor for Digital Video data. In repository main, is extra. Version 0.80-1ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 1071 kB, installed size 3616 kB
[07:12] <damian_> !cinelerra
[07:12] <ubotu> cinelerra is a video editor and compositor. Install instructions can be found on http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.html#ubuntu
[07:12] <narvik86> !avidemux
[07:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about avidemux - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:12] <soulrider> i just need to join two files, nothing too fancy
[07:12] <aliasfred> w00t: yes, dont remember the exact syntax tho
[07:13] <_Shade_> how should the usb device entry look like in fstab ?
[07:13] <_Shade_> the dev is sda
[07:13] <narvik86> http://avidemux.sourceforge.net/
[07:13] <larson9999> _shade_ the sub don't show in fstab for me
[07:13] <larson9999> _shade_ the usb don't show in fstab for me
[07:13] <bl3ssing> narvik86, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19789
[07:13] <aliasfred> w00t: btw http://www.fping.com/
[07:14] <bl3ssing> I got it with gt, but it comes not uic ... what's that? :D
[07:14] <aliasfred>  fping -g 192.168.1.0 192.168.1.255 <- from http://www.fping.com/man/
[07:14] <cplusplus> where could i find msn messanger for kubuntu?
[07:14] <_Shade_> larson9999: i have to do something though since my mp3 player seems to lose it's sync
[07:14] <_Shade_> cplusplus: apt-get install amsn
[07:15] <bl3ssing> cplusplus .... you
[07:15] <bl3ssing> apt-get install amsn.
[07:15] <aliasfred> cplusplus: it is not available as is. do you want the exact program or just a software able to connect msn im ?
[07:15] <cplusplus> thanks
[07:15] <bl3ssing> cplusplus, kopete is the best.
[07:15] <bl3ssing> you can log with many other messengers ... (yahoo, msn, aol and so on)
[07:16] <soulrider> can FAT32 support 1.5 gb files?
[07:17] <narvik86> bl3ssing sudo apt-cache search rosegarden  ???
[07:18] <fernando_> hola
[07:18] <soulrider> thatw ill search for rosegarden
[07:18] <soulrider> hola fernando_ aqui solo ingles
[07:18] <soulrider> !es
[07:18] <Jucato> I
[07:18] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:18] <fernando_> oks........
[07:18] <soulrider> ;)
[07:19] <narvik86> bl3ssing  got to go, install it from repo and there will be no problem
[07:22] <damian_> !kdm
[07:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about kdm - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:23] <damian_> !arts
[07:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about arts - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:24] <steveire> does anyone know about how Adept works, or is there a more suitable channel to ask a development question about it in.
[07:25] <Jucato> steveire: what about Adept?
[07:26] <steveire> Where does the tagging system come from, and is it just a wrapper around apt-get or does it use some kind of aptlib or something (which I think other package managers use)
[07:26] <soulrider> !bugs
[07:26] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[07:27] <Jucato> It's called debtags, and it's from Debian. Frankly, I think only the geeks understand it really.
[07:27] <dnoc> Hi all
[07:27] <soulrider> hi
[07:27] <narvik86> hi
[07:27] <dnoc> I have intel 910gl chipset
[07:28] <steveire> And I need to find those (specific) geeks
[07:28] <dnoc> I want to run 3d acc to run 3d desktop
[07:28] <dnoc> i can't find a howto
[07:28] <dnoc> any help?!
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> #1 what video card
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> intel? ewww
[07:28] <bl3ssing> lol narvik86... after this strugling time ... :d
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> #2 - google for that card and linux. :P
[07:28] <dnoc> ya I know
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> see if 3d is even supported.
[07:29] <dnoc> did that
[07:29] <dnoc> no good info
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> 3d desktop is a bit of useless eye candy i find..
[07:29] <Jucato> steveire: I'm not too fascinated with it. seems like maintainers and devs are the main beneficiaries of hte debtag system
[07:29] <steveire> Jucato: Can I get debtags data from outside of adept? Ie on the command line?
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> it dont even do its job very well. :P
[07:29] <dnoc> i am exploring linux, this is not a good start
[07:29] <steveire> I like it, but I install everything with aptitude
[07:29] <steveire> Can aptitude access the debtags system?
[07:30] <narvik86> bl3ssing ??
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> dnoc,  worrying abouyt eye candy is not the way to explore linux. :P
[07:30] <bl3ssing> narvik86, YES?
[07:30] <narvik86> bl3ssing tried from repository?
[07:30] <dnoc> what got my eye to start exploring is the said eye candy
[07:30] <bl3ssing> yes. And I've done it.
[07:30] <Jucato> steveire: debtags are supposed to be embedded on the .deb packages themselves, AFAIK.
[07:30] <bl3ssing> now I'm trying to start  the program.
[07:30] <bl3ssing> thank you soooooooooooo very much narvik86  for your time.
[07:30] <bl3ssing> I really appreciate.
[07:31] <Doodluv> anybody have an a8n-sli motherboard? possibly with some tips to get audio working
[07:31] <steveire> dnoc: I thought that package was only available for gnome.
[07:31] <Jucato> steveire: like when you do apt-cache show, it will show the debtags of that package
[07:31] <bl3ssing> if I can help you with something, just knock of the door. OK? :)
[07:31] <bl3ssing> narvik86, and the door'll open by itself ... :D
[07:31] <dnoc> i read and saw a clip it works in kde
[07:31] <narvik86> bl3ssing it is working? :)
[07:31] <dhq> how to execute a bin file
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> eye candy is for the weak.. :P ITs the Tasteless Fluff on the Cake of Yumminess that is Linux.
[07:31] <XVampireX> dhq: chmod +x file.bin
[07:31] <bl3ssing> where could I find it
[07:32] <XVampireX> dhq: ./file.bin
[07:32] <Jucato> Dr_Willis: ouch.. that hurts..
[07:32] <bl3ssing> cause I don't find it? by the way, narvik86 where could I find every new installed program?
[07:32] <dnoc> Dr_ lets leave the wisdoms a side can you help?!!
[07:32] <dhq> i downloaded google earth.bin
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> Heh heh
[07:32] <XVampireX> You can double click on it
[07:32] <narvik86> bl3ssing wait a second
[07:32] <XVampireX> or
[07:32] <XVampireX> dhq: try: sudo sh file.bin
[07:33] <XVampireX> I think double click should work, I forgot how I installed it
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> Place to start dnoc  i think would be the ubuntu wiki/forums - they got a laptop section. (this was a laptop?)
[07:33] <dnoc> no its a normal pc
[07:33] <dnoc> hp one
[07:34] <steveire> Jucato: It looks to me like it shows meta-data for the package. In adept, you drag a word-processors tag into a box, and all the packages using that tag are displayed
[07:34] <Jucato> steveire: oh yeah, forgot that. So far, Adept is the only one I know that uses debtags like that
[07:35] <steveire> and do you know if I can access data like that from the command line?
[07:35] <narvik86> bl3ssing http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19791 :)
[07:35] <Jucato> AFAIK, no...
[07:35] <dnoc> thank you all
[07:35] <dnoc> by
[07:37] <narvik86> bl3ssing for example rosegarden is in /usr/bin
[07:41] <w00t> ok fping work to see if a ip is online..
[07:41] <w00t> it don't show the computername an os
[07:41] <kamikaze_j> hola
[07:41] <w00t> and*
[07:41] <kamikaze_j> hello
[07:41] <kamikaze_j> one question
[07:42] <kamikaze_j> amarok
[07:42] <kamikaze_j> someone?
[07:42] <abattoir> kamikaze_j: ask your question
[07:42] <bl3ssing> kamikaze_j, what's up?
[07:42] <BluesKaj> Damn! I just encoded an avi file to dvd with Avidemux , but k3b wants to treat it as a vcd file and won't burn to a dvd
[07:42] <kamikaze_j> mp3 support
[07:42] <steveire> Jucato: It seems accessible acually. debtags grep interface::web will show web packages.  debtags grep interface::web grep made-of::php will show web packages and packages made in php. You can pipe the grep command to make it return web packages made in php etc. Looks like I've got a new project on my todo list
[07:43] <abattoir> kamikaze_j: you need to install libxine-extracodecs
[07:43] <TheGateKeeper> kamikaze_j: xine engine and install libxine-extracodecs
[07:43] <abattoir> !libxine-extracodecs
[07:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about libxine-extracodecs - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:43] <kamikaze_j> ok, thanks abattoir
[07:43] <abattoir> !info libxine-extracodecs
[07:43] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[07:43] <abattoir> kamikaze_j: make sure you have multiverse enabled
[07:44] <Jucato> steveire: oooh. that's interesting. If only Adept actually had instructions on what debtags are and how to use them properly in Adept, it might actually be useful
[07:44] <narvik86> bl3ssing just tell if it works :)
[07:44] <BluesKaj> anyone have experience burning video files to dvd with k3b ?
[07:44] <kamikaze_j> my sound is bad
[07:44] <kamikaze_j> puf...
[07:44] <kamikaze_j> haber como esplico yo esto en ingles jajaj
[07:44] <bl3ssing> give me a sec. ... very slow loading .. :(
[07:45] <narvik86> bl3ssing ok ::)
[07:45] <w00t> hi i am looking for a network scanning progamm\
[07:45] <w00t> i want to see al te computers that connectet to the network?
[07:45] <steveire> Sure. I want a smart package manager (that's aptitude), and I want a GUI with Debtags support (that's adept) I think I'll write something to put them together when I get the chance.
[07:46] <aliasfred> w00t: fping doesnt do it for you ?
[07:46] <Jucato> steveire: I'll be your number one fan once you've done that!!
[07:46] <TheGateKeeper> steveire: there is supposed to be a new smart package manager coming in edgy I think
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> Click N Run? :P
[07:46] <steveire> TheGateKeeper: really? Info?
[07:47] <w00t> no not realy i want to see the computername
[07:47] <w00t> ..
[07:47] <Jucato> TheGateKeeper: only problem is, it's completely python.
[07:47] <steveire> why@s that a problem?
[07:47] <Jucato> a full python based program for a low level function? how slow will that be?
[07:48] <steveire> We'll have to see I guess
[07:48] <Jucato> besides, the devs of Smart themselves admit that Smar is slow
[07:48] <Jucato> ... for now
[07:48] <w00t> aah i see it is possible on fping
[07:48] <w00t> :P
[07:48] <TheGateKeeper> steveire: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartPackageManager
[07:49] <kamikaze_j> abattoir-> thanks, now is nice
[07:49] <kamikaze_j> :)
[07:49] <TheGateKeeper> Jucato: someone needs to convert it to c++ :-)
[07:49] <aliasfred> why i am allways worried when i see 'smart' in a computer name :)
[07:49] <G33K> hi
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> Moo
[07:49] <KiDD420> Moo indeed
[07:49] <TheGateKeeper> synaptic with a role-back feature would make me happy!!
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> Muu!
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:50] <Jucato> TheGateKeeper: if I knew how to program in C++, I would have made one myself :-D
[07:50] <nixternal> In 10 minutes, #ubuntu-classroom will be offering a basic class in the area of IRC. Konversation will be the topic for Kubuntu users, so if you are interested, please join the channel and sit back. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom for more information! Thank You!
[07:51] <steveire> interesting
[07:51] <TheGateKeeper> Jucato: I am a c++ programmer but don't really have the time least ways not at the moment
[07:51] <KiDD420> what do I use to compile this source code?
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> apt-get install build-essential     for a start
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> the other packages needed - depends on the code.
[07:51] <kamikaze_j> ubuntu classroom ummm :)
[07:51] <Jucato> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190985 <--- I made this thread a while back, trying to compare the strengths and weaknesses of some of the package manager front ends
[07:52] <steveire> s
[07:52] <steveire> bleh.
[07:52] <KiDD420> where do I get that
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> apt-get install build-essential
[07:52] <steveire> hehe. I read that before actually I think
[07:52] <Jucato> :-D
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> is the command.. if ya dont know how to use the package manager system of Kubuntu/Ubuntu - well ya may want do a little reading
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> !apt-get
[07:52] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[07:53] <KiDD420> thanks
[07:53] <kamikaze_j> ubuntu classrom in spanish?
[07:53] <kamikaze_j> :s
[07:54] <Jucato> kamikaze_j: nope. in English
[07:54] <kamikaze_j> :(
[07:55] <Jucato> going to the classroom... bye!!
[07:55] <BluesKaj> I unintstalled enlightenment and now ADEPT is missing from the K-menu...uhoh , what happened ?
[07:56] <TheGateKeeper> Jucato: interesting post, however for people that manage to screw their system up (and I have seen a few in here) the number one prioity IMHO is a role-back feature, but so far I have seen no indication of this happening
[07:56] <w00t> lol i have installed crack_md5 but can't find tha readme
[07:56] <bl3ssing> narvik86, seems that this program's not running. So stuburn .. Now I really have to go. My wife called me and ... need to gooooo! It's an order of her (kidding!).
[07:56] <bl3ssing> :)
[07:56] <bl3ssing> God bless all of you guys. Byeeeeeeeeee....!
[07:56] <TheGateKeeper> damn he has gone!!
[07:56] <bl3ssing> thanks narvik86 for everything.
[07:56] <bl3ssing> when I'll come back, hope you'll still be here. :)
[07:56] <bl3ssing> bye everyone.
[07:56] <narvik86> bl3ssing sad that i could help you
[07:56] <narvik86> bl3ssing bye
[07:57] <bl3ssing> you helped me a lot narvik86 ... Thank you.
[07:57] <narvik86> bl3ssing sad that i couldn't help you :)
[07:57] <shadedpast> how the hell am i supposed to use update manager to update kubuntu if it isn't on kubuntu
[07:57] <narvik86> bl3ssing try rosegarde4 later
[07:57] <shadedpast> he left
[07:58] <shadedpast> how do i update kubuntu from breezy to dapper?
[07:58] <steveire> TheGateKeeper: Does any pman have a rollback feature?
[07:59] <shadedpast> help please
[07:59] <narvik86> i have installed in from cd, format / and install :)
[07:59] <TheGateKeeper> steveire: not that I am aware of
[07:59] <shadedpast> anyone know
[07:59] <shadedpast> ???
[07:59] <steveire> shadedpast: you change source.list to dapper wherever it is breezy, then sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[07:59] <shadedpast> ok thnx
[08:00] <KiDD420> when I try the apt-get install build-essential it says "Could not open lock file /var/lib/kpkg/lock -open (13 denied)" and "Unable to lock the administaration directory (/var/lib/dpkg), are you root?
[08:00] <steveire> I guess aptitude is along those lines with the redundant dependancy removal, but doesn't specifically rollback
[08:00] <KiDD420> I tried to do it su but it says the password is wrong
[08:00] <steveire> KiDD420: Put a sudo in front of that
[08:01] <KiDD420> duh
[08:01] <KiDD420> thanks
[08:01] <steveire> you haven't set a root password.
[08:01] <damian_> KiDD420 change the root password by doing sudo passwd
[08:01] <steveire> np
[08:01] <damian_> now you can do su
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> 'ick' :P blasphmy! Heh heh
[08:01] <KiDD420> thank you
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> I do that also. :P lol
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> you dont need to set a root password.. bad habbit.. :)
[08:01] <shadedpast> yeah that worx thnx
[08:01] <alfons> hi all
[08:02] <KiDD420> i dint know the differance between su and sudo thought it was the same thing
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> sudo is handy
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> you can allow specific users to do specific root-ish tasks with it.
[08:03] <xsaye> hello
[08:03] <BluesKaj> !sources list
[08:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about sources list - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:04] <BluesKaj> !sources
[08:04] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:04] <steveire> !sudo
[08:04] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:04] <mioemi> hello
[08:04] <steveire> hi
[08:05] <kamikaze_j> hi
[08:05] <mioemi> engine drawing
[08:05] <xsaye> has or does anyone here run kubuntu in parallels?
[08:07] <steveire> what are parallels?
[08:07] <mioemi> has anybody  used autocad or like program on ubuntu?
[08:07] <KiDD420> not on ubuntu
[08:07] <xsaye> www.parallels.com
[08:08] <xsaye> im running kubuntu in it now, wondering if there is anything i should be aware of
[08:08] <xsaye> it's actually benchmarking quicker than my mac natively!
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> mioemi,  qcad is nice - 2d only however.
[08:09] <draik_> hello all
[08:09] <mioemi> has anybody  used autocad or like program on ubuntu?
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> theres a few comerial cad programs out I htink (seen ads for them)
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> but it depends on your needs.
[08:10] <mioemi> ok
[08:11] <willy_> Hi there... is there an alternative to using flash_7 in firefox for viewing video.google.com? Flash seems too choppy.
[08:11] <mioemi> I will appreciate if U may about any
[08:11] <willy_> mioemi: I was wondering that same thing. I'm a coordinator
[08:11] <mioemi> ok
[08:11] <Dr_Willis> Ive only used qcad for my 2d needs.
[08:12] <mioemi> I actually started running ubuntu
[08:12] <willy_> would wine apply to autocad? or is that only for directx type stuff?
[08:12] <mioemi> I dont think so
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> not sure how well wine handles autocad
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> check the wine web sites/lists/forums I guess
[08:12] <steveire> xsaye: So you're running MAC OSX with Kubuntu running at the same time?
[08:12] <mioemi> but I just tried blend 3D
[08:13] <Dr_Willis> blender3d?
[08:13] <steveire> there is acad.
[08:13] <mioemi> ok
[08:13] <Dr_Willis> !info qcad
[08:13] <ubotu> qcad: A professional CAD System. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.0.4.0-1-2.1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2872 kB, installed size 12564 kB
[08:13] <Dr_Willis> !info acad
[08:13] <ubotu> Package acad does not exist in dapper
[08:13] <KiDD420> whats the name of the package with SDL
[08:13] <willy_> mioemi: hey, my Aim name is BillyRego. If you get Autocad working, will you hit me up and let me know how?
[08:14] <mioemi> ok
[08:14] <willy_> thank you
[08:14] <KiDD420> !info SDL
[08:14] <ubotu> Package SDL does not exist in dapper
[08:14] <KiDD420> sya wha
[08:15] <KiDD420> !SDL
[08:15] <ubotu> I know nothing about SDL - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> theres oodles of sdl- related packages
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> apt-cache search sdl
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> :P
[08:15] <KiDD420> your so helpful
[08:16] <willy_> so is there anyway to improve flash preformance, or an alternative to? or should i just give up
[08:16] <Dr_Willis> libsdl1.2-dev  is one of the 100 packages i see for sdl.
[08:16] <Dr_Willis> it depends on what part of sdl you are interested in
[08:16] <steveire> willy_: have you tried automatix?
[08:17] <Dr_Willis> !automatix
[08:17] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[08:17] <Dr_Willis> Use at your own risk - needs to be in BOLD/BRIGHT red. :)
[08:17] <steveire> Indeed. I don't like it.
[08:17] <gplfighter> ans easyubuntu?
[08:17] <steveire> There's a lot of voodoo and 'smartness'
[08:17] <gplfighter> and easyubuntu?
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> I dont advise either. :P
[08:18] <kakkottino1> hi
[08:18] <steveire> Again, I see then sense in doing these things yourself. There's good help sections in the wiki
[08:18] <steveire> hi kakkottino1
[08:18] <FanzY00> we
[08:18] <KiDD420> Im just gonna get the debian-all package does it matter which one I get?
[08:19] <KiDD420> botsnack
[08:21] <rikioh> im bored and trying to learn things about linux dunno what i should do next
[08:22] <mioemi> rikio, what variant of linux are U intending to start with?
[08:22] <rikioh> im in kubuntu right now
[08:23] <mioemi> there are couple of manual tyhat U can start with
[08:23] <abattoir> rikioh: maybe you could join the classroom
[08:23] <abattoir> !classroom
[08:23] <shadesmachine> hi does anyone know how to load a script by default when kde boots?
[08:23] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Classroom is a project which aims to tutor users about Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu through biweekly sessions in #ubuntu-classroom - For more information visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom
[08:23] <KiDD420> do I need a -dev package of SDL for compiling?
[08:24] <steveire> shadesmachine: put the script in ~/.kde/Autostart
[08:24] <rouge8> what would I need to install to build qt programs?
[08:26] <slow-motion> hallo
[08:26] <shadesmachine> ok
[08:26] <gplfighter> hallo
[08:26] <shadesmachine> great
[08:26] <shadesmachine> tks steveire
[08:26] <steveire> np shade
[08:26] <steveire> np shadesmachine
[08:29] <KiDD420> thank you doctor willis your help was helpful
[08:29] <KiDD420> lol
[08:29] <robert__> test
[08:29] <robert__> ah mega cool :)
[08:30] <steveire> robert__ That's z3r0c00l
[08:30] <crazy_penguin> good night all! sleep well!
[08:30] <GBK> anyone know how to play .wmv video's?
[08:30] <steveire> why are there so many roberts
[08:31] <steveire> !restricted
[08:31] <robert__> im in kubuntu on my mac..
[08:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:31] <robert__> at the same time :)
[08:31] <robert__> wee
[08:31] <robert__> cool.
[08:31] <robert__> kubuntu is pretty nice
[08:33] <KiDD420> uhh
[08:33] <kamikaze_j> bye
[08:34] <KiDD420> how do I run a program I just compiled?
[08:34] <visik7> ./program ?
[08:34] <BluesKaj> avi encoded to dvd won't burn to a dvd ...K3b keeps asking for a cd , how do I correct this ?
[08:34] <KiDD420> whats ./program?
[08:35] <steveire> it executes a program in the current working directory
[08:35] <BluesKaj> KiDD420, you may have restart X
[08:35] <KiDD420> ok
[08:36] <steveire> if you don't use ./program it looks in the path
[08:36] <KiDD420> whats the fast way to restart x?
[08:36] <steveire> ctrl+alt+backspace
[08:36] <BluesKaj> end curent session
[08:36] <BluesKaj> ahh. learn something new everyday
[08:37] <DragonDraik> Hey draik_
[08:37] <BluesKaj> steveire, any experience with burning video to dvd in k3b ?
[08:37] <BluesKaj> or anyone ?
[08:38] <steveire> nope. Never tried it. Is it not obvious from the wiki?
[08:38] <levi_> its not working] 
[08:38] <BluesKaj> I'm in thr k3b chat but no one's responding
[08:38] <KiDD420> anyone else play openttd?
[08:39] <BluesKaj> avi encoded to dvd won't burn to a dvd ...K3b keeps asking for a cd ... !
[08:40] <rikioh> can i get synaptic for kubuntu
[08:40] <andriijas> http://pastie.caboo.se/7346  can someone explain this to me?
[08:41] <steveire> why do I have a random message telling me that I just joined this channel?
[08:41] <abattoir> rikioh: yes... 'apt-get install synaptic' should get it...
[08:41] <steveire> yes rikioh. It works
[08:41] <GBK> rikioh:yes you can
[08:41] <rikioh> thanks guys
[08:41] <rikioh> :)
[08:41] <stn> # j brasil
[08:41] <GBK> ah. I was jumped!
[08:42] <mmorris> How complicated is it to run Photoshop CS2 on my Kubuntu?
[08:42] <GBK> any wine boffins here?
[08:42] <BluesKaj> abattoir, any experience burning avi re-encoded to dvd in k3b ?
[08:42] <rikioh> i was gonna try to wine it last nite mmorris but i got tired
[08:42] <rikioh> so i dont know
[08:42] <w00t> does anny one know what means when i get a error dns not found?
[08:43] <mmorris> From what I read, that is a rather difficult task rikioh
[08:43] <abattoir> BluesKaj: nope... but arent there other tools for it...??
[08:43] <rikioh> i bet it is hard cuz it probably errors out alot with dll errors mmorris
[08:43] <rikioh> when you try to run it
[08:43] <mmorris> Have you heard of VMware Player?
[08:43] <rikioh> i  hear most installs are a snap
[08:44] <rikioh> nope
[08:44] <lackdiant> hi, does anybody have xgl-kubuntu package but 0.10 version?
[08:44] <mmorris> That is supposed to work...  It is some virtual machine program runner or something... Got me?
[08:45] <BluesKaj> yeah , I thought I could get Avdemux to encode it to dvd and k3b would then accept i as a proper dvd file , but i guess the avi signatures aren't stripped out during the re- encoding
[08:45] <mmorris> Can anybody take the time to help me get XGL with kubuntu?  I tried it last night, but to no avail.  Now when I try to run my machine in XGL, I can't see a thing... it's messed up somewhere... Do you think it may be a video card issue?
[08:47] <Daillew>  /quote nickserv identify mirc4d@!ll3w
[08:47] <andriijas> http://pastie.caboo.se/7346  can someone explain this to me?
[08:48] <steveire> Daillew: Oopseee
[08:48] <Daillew> dont matter
[08:48] <steveire> why?
[08:49] <Daillew> he dont know,
[08:49] <Daillew> its me dad, im just messing about
[08:49] <steveire> You can change it anyway, and with a pw like that you probably don't use it for all your logins
[08:49] <Daillew> hell sort it when hes back on
[08:53] <GBK> e
[08:54] <GBK> is the server down?
[08:54] <GBK> 
[08:56] <rikioh> why does synaptic say i cant do anything cuz im not root
[08:57] <rr72> why is ubotu missing some logs?
[08:57] <steveire> what server are we talking about GBK?
[08:57] <KiDD420> it got drunk
[08:57] <steveire> what do you mean, rr72?
[08:57] <rr72> the logs i need he his missing
[08:57] <heinkel_111> does anyone here know what AGP vertex ram is?
[08:57] <rr72> for 7/24/06
[08:57] <rr72> 0bytes
[08:57] <rr72> !logs
[08:57] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[08:58] <dr_willis_> heinkel_111,  that 'toms hardware site - had a guide to video cards and what all these terms mean' set of articals just last week
[08:58] <heinkel_111> is AGP vertex ram  a physical memory thing installed somewhere or is it a an allovation
[08:58] <heinkel_111> allocation
[08:58] <steveire> you don't have your own logs?
[08:58] <heinkel_111> thanks Dr_Willis
[08:58] <andriijas> jeez should be illegal to put irc logs on internet
[09:00] <andriijas> http://pastie.caboo.se/7346  can someone explain this to me?
[09:00] <rr72> oops wrong button
[09:01] <rr72> ok so why are the logs missing for days i need?
[09:02] <archangel_> Question
[09:02] <uniq> andriijas: i understand that kubuntu-desktop will be removed, xmms i don't understand.
[09:02] <andriijas> uniq: ?
[09:03] <Ireclan> Well, I finally got Kubuntu to work.
[09:03] <andriijas> uniq: what i did try to do was to uninstall xmms?
[09:03] <Ireclan> Yay for me.
[09:03] <rr72> why don't the logs work?
[09:03] <uniq> andriijas: sorry, i mean kopete i don't understand.
[09:03] <archangel_> My brostoped an updated that was98% done.. while the kernal was being updated.
[09:03] <archangel_> oops I mean my bro stopped)
[09:03] <andriijas> uniq: either kopete or kubuntu-desktop shouldnt be removed when i try to remove xmms
[09:04] <andriijas> else xmms would be shipped with kubuntu
[09:04] <rr72>  /mourn Chanserv
[09:04] <archangel_> now laptop doesnt boot
[09:04] <lascar> hey, i upgraded to Dapper, and for some reason i lost the x desktop.  Help, anyone?
[09:04] <archangel_> is he screewed?
[09:04] <archangel_> dagg, I cant type
[09:04] <lascar> namely, how do I restore the x desktop and kde?
[09:05] <uniq> andriijas: correct.
[09:05] <archangel_> lascar: type kde at the prompt
[09:05] <dr_willis_> huh.
[09:05] <uniq> andriijas: The following packages will be REMOVED: xmms*
[09:05] <lascar> archangel_: and then what happens?
[09:05] <uniq> andriijas: that's when i try to remove xmms.
[09:06] <archangel_> lascar: that should take you right into kde
[09:06] <lascar> and how will i know if the restoration is permanent?
[09:07] <archangel_> lascar: that would be a permanent fix, but Dr Willis should know that command
[09:07] <dr_willis_> what command? :P
[09:07] <archangel_> lascar: to make it permanent, I mean
[09:07] <andriijas> uniq: why does mine try to remove kopete and kubuntu-desktop aswell? :o
[09:07] <rr72> who logs this channel? the but was not here the 24th of Jully
[09:08] <rr72> *july
[09:08] <archangel_> lascar needs KDE to start when the pc boots instead of typing kde
[09:08] <rr72> i NEED logs for that day
[09:08] <lascar> dr_willis_: what say you?
[09:08] <dr_willis_> lascar,  whats the problem again? I missed it.
[09:08] <rr72> someone told me a cmd and its not in my .basg_history
[09:08] <lascar> dr_willis_: i updated to dapper and lost kde and the x-desktop
[09:08] <uniq> andriijas: don't know. try to run this command in konsole: 'dpkg --get-selections|grep -v install'
[09:08] <lascar> all i'm getting is konsole
[09:08] <dr_willis_> what video card?
[09:09] <uniq> andriijas: does it give any output?
[09:09] <andriijas> uniq: with sudo?
[09:09] <lascar> dr_willis_: you asking me?
[09:09] <rr72> lascar~ i updated to dapper and have fligkers on my screen
[09:09] <uniq> andriijas: not needed.
[09:09] <andriijas> uniq: no output
[09:09] <dr_willis_> you proberly need to reinstall your video card drivers lascar
[09:09] <rr72> and Xserver is messed up
[09:09] <uniq> andriijas: ok. then none of your packages are flagged to be removed.
[09:10] <dr_willis_> lascar,  use 'startx' and see what sor tof error messages ya get
[09:10] <rr72> dr_willis_ i want to but i can't find a cmd i need in the 24th of july logs
[09:10] <rr72> it was an export cmd
[09:10] <rr72> *statement
[09:10] <rr72> about gcc
[09:10] <rr72> forget who told me
[09:10] <lascar> what's the url for the unofficial kubuntu guide?
[09:10] <rr72> i want logs but the bot doesnt have then for that day and the next :`(
[09:11] <rodrigo_> Excuse me colud you give the channel of kubuntu-es?
[09:11] <andriijas> uniq: hmm ok wierd. what kde version are you running?
[09:11] <dr_willis_> #es
[09:11] <dr_willis_> !es
[09:11] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:11] <rodrigo_> thank you
[09:17] <larsivi> Have anyone tried digikam with a mounted camera after installing KDE 3.5.4 ?
[09:18] <archangel_> its not as easy
[09:18] <Ace2007> Hey did i by any change miss that ubuntu talk thing? on irc
[09:18] <larsivi> archangel_: was that an answer to me?
[09:18] <archangel_> yeah
[09:19] <larsivi> does that mean that there are more than me experiencing problems? or that you don't have a camera?
[09:19] <rr72> who logs this channel?
[09:19] <archangel_> larsivi: it seems the version just before this new one was easier
[09:19] <rr72> i need to /msg
[09:19] <rr72> and the bot didnt log this day
[09:19] <rr72> so don't point me to !logs
[09:19] <jpozlovsky> hi all!
[09:19] <uniq> andriijas: 3.5.4 on edgy.
[09:19] <rr72> been there, done that
[09:19] <andriijas> uniq: okay
[09:20] <jpozlovsky> One question: is here any way how can I manually turn off/on (probably called suspend mode) USB devices? Against "lsusb" it is identified as "Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0db0:6970 Micro Star International" and it is Bluetooth module.
[09:20] <jpozlovsky> thanks
[09:20] <archangel_> larsivi: I transfer allot of pic at times and right now I am still trying to get the pics off
[09:20] <rr72> where do i find logs for this channel? !logs is not working right
[09:20] <larsivi> archangel_: digikam was setup to work prior to the upgrade, now it don't (says that it is not able to get the file list from /media/sdb1) ... I have no problems getting the files listed in konqui
[09:21] <archangel_> larsivi: I also noticed that the program to handle the pics is different too
[09:22] <larsivi> archangel_: I see no differences there ..
[09:22] <rr72> where can i find chat logs? !logs is broken
[09:23] <larsivi> rr72: if noone is answering, it is because noone here currently know the answer
[09:23] <archangel_> larsivi: what program are you using
[09:24] <larsivi> archangel_: the default I think? digikam image editing (I think, it is translated :)
[09:24] <Nancy1> hi everyone,,
[09:25] <lascar> i'll be back
[09:25] <Ace2007> How do you rename stuff in konsole? a folder
[09:25] <Riddell> Ace2007: mv
[09:25] <andriijas> mv
[09:25] <larsivi> Ace2007: mv oldname newname
[09:25] <Nancy1> can anyone help me ,, I have a problem with X,, when I boot,, it goes up til llogin then goes blank and send me to command line login,,
[09:25] <archangel_> I have Gwenview, kooka, xane, all of which I have never used
[09:25] <rr72> mkdir
[09:26] <rr72> touch
[09:26] <Ace2007> larsivi and Riddell: Thanks :)
[09:26] <Nancy1> when I log in recovery mode ,, everything is fine.. can anyone explain to me why, ,no change has been made to machine what so ever
[09:26] <mmorris> is there any way I can create a konsole startup file?
[09:26] <archangel_> larsivi: sorry, did you catch my last statement?
[09:27] <larsivi> archangel_: about the image programs you have?
[09:27] <archangel_> yeah
[09:27] <mmorris> Is there a helper in this room>?
[09:27] <chatboy> !ntfs
[09:27] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[09:27] <chatboy> domo arigato
[09:27] <larsivi> archangel_: that part seems to be working satisfactorily for me ... it's a bigger problem that digikam don't want to download new pictures :)
[09:28] <archangel_> larsivi: I want to say that the last program I used was 'photogragh' or something like that
[09:28] <rr72> does anyone have logs from the 24th of july?
[09:28] <rr72> for this channel
[09:28] <archangel_> larsivi: I see
[09:29] <mmorris> Can anyone help me with this problem I am having?
[09:29] <rr72> !ask
[09:29] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:30] <mmorris> Everytime I log in to Kubuntu, I have to type a series of commands (4 to be exact) in Konsole.  Is there a way I can create a file to do this automatically?
[09:30] <rr72> make it a bash script and run that on logon
[09:31] <rr72> don't konw exactly how to do it tho
[09:31] <mmorris> lol
[09:31] <rr72> i know what u have to do tho
[09:31] <mmorris> what is that
[09:31] <rr72> i told u ;) run it when u logon
[09:31] <mmorris> ha
[09:31] <rr72> someone should help u
[09:33] <TheGateKeeper> mmorris: write a bash script in with commands, I think KDE has autostart so that may well be the place to get it executed, it is also possible to get a cron job to execute on start up
[09:34] <rr72> how do i export my gcc version to somin else?
[09:34] <mmorris> TheGateKeeper:  I'm not familiar with bash script writing... I'm trying to read up quickly now, but if you could help, that would be great
[09:35] <soulrider> hi everyone
[09:36] <rr72> hey soulrider
[09:36] <TheGateKeeper> mmorris: sadly I'm not too hot on it myself, C++ is my natural language however this should help: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html
[09:36] <soulrider> hey TheGateKeeper
[09:36] <cossidhon> I have some problems with konqueror, could anyone help me with it?
[09:36] <rr72> u type #/bin/sh or somin then ur commands
[09:36] <rr72> make it executable
[09:36] <rr72> save in auto start
[09:36] <soulrider> hey rr72
[09:37] <rr72> in a file
[09:37] <TheGateKeeper> hiya soulrider
[09:37] <soulrider> im about to destroy my new comp
[09:37] <rr72> how?
[09:37] <soulrider> --------------><-------------- that close
[09:37] <soulrider> well
[09:37] <soulrider> i went to windows to isntall the sound drivers so i could play some doom
[09:37] <mmorris> TheGateKeeper:  Thanks
[09:37] <soulrider> but guess what, ti wont install them,a dn when i open IE after like 10 seconds my comp freezes
[09:37] <TheGateKeeper> mmorris: yw :-)
[09:37] <soulrider> happened several times
[09:38] <soulrider> and now i come to kubuntu and one of my hard drive sis missing :)
[09:38] <TheGateKeeper> mmorris: rr72 told you the rest anyway :-)
[09:38] <rr72> i don't think its right tho
[09:38] <rr72> i would be really surprised if it were
[09:39] <TheGateKeeper> soulrider: hmmm you are having a good day!
[09:39] <soulrider> indeed!
[09:39] <rr72> how do i set my gcc version older with export command?
[09:39] <soulrider> as soon as my dad gets home im gonna tell himt o send the comp back :P
[09:40] <rr72> someone told me but i forgot, it was a week ago
[09:40] <soulrider> and knowing how things are, theyre gonna install windwos and fork up my grub... again!
[09:40] <aliasfred> rr72: expore CC=gcc-3.4
[09:40] <aliasfred> or close :)
[09:40] <aliasfred> expore = export
[09:40] <rr72> that looks wrong to me
[09:40] <rr72> it was different last time
[09:40] <alex_> can anyone give me some advice on redistributing free space?
[09:41] <aliasfred> rr72: well it worked last time i tried :)
[09:41] <rr72> 3.4 is the wrong version
[09:41] <TheGateKeeper> rr72: now you have the answer install google notes in firefox :-)
[09:41] <rr72> i don't use firefox
[09:41] <rr72> i use lynx
[09:42] <rr72> and there was a bath in there, the one i used
[09:42] <slow-motion>  <rr72> make it executable < how?
[09:42] <aliasfred> rr72: hehe :) well ok the 3.4 was only to do the example. you obviously have to setit to your version :)
[09:42] <TheGateKeeper> rr72: have to use notes in kontact then :-)
[09:42] <rr72> i don't use kontact
[09:42] <rr72> slow-motion~ chmod +x /path/to/file
[09:43] <slow-motion> ah ok thx
[09:43] <rr72> aliasfred~ did u help me with my signal 11 problem?
[09:43] <aliasfred> nope :)
[09:43] <alex_> ok, i just deleted my windows partition and was wondering how i can take the now unused space and make it available to my linux partition
[09:43] <rr72> aliasfred~ i forget who it was and the stupid bot makes things hard
[09:43] <rr72> he wasnt here the day i need the log for
[09:43] <aliasfred> alex_: format it as ext3 and mount it, that would do it :)
[09:44] <rr72> and noone logs this channel
[09:44] <alex_> there's no way to just add the gigs to the linux part?
[09:44] <soulrider> ok, for on ast time ill restart, if this NTFS partition oesnt get mounted im gonna go out and shoot someone
[09:44] <soulrider> BBL
[09:44] <aliasfred> alex_: well i just told you how... why dont you like it ?
[09:46] <alex_> because i can't access my mounted partition from my client computer
[09:46] <aliasfred> alex_: ok im lost :)
[09:48] <alex_> u did help though, thanks
[09:48] <aliasfred> no problem :)
[09:48] <rr72> who helped me with my signal 11 error last week?
[09:49] <mioemi_> can any body tell me the latest virus that can affect linuz?
[09:50] <rr72> mioemi_~ PEBCAK
[09:51] <mioemi_> how does it react?
[09:51] <rr72> it logs into root and then rm -fr /
[09:51] <mioemi_> as it pattern
[09:51] <mioemi_> as in its pattern
[09:52] <damian_> i have the source code for the virus
[09:52] <Martijn81> mioemi_: search for that phrase ;)
[09:52] <damian_> it must be run as root
[09:52] <damian_> #!/bin/bash
[09:52] <damian_> rm -rf /
[09:52] <narvik86> :) nice one virus
[09:53] <Martijn81> damin_: we should help each other here, not destroy remember? :)
[09:53] <rr72> oh and whoever is looking for bash coding talk to damian_
[09:53] <aliasfred> ALL: dont try this rm command with -rf /, this erase the whole disk
[09:53] <damian_> lol
[09:53] <aliasfred> just in case people doesnt know
[09:54] <rr72> who said taht?
[09:54] <rr72> people told me to do that
[09:54] <rr72> those dumb asses
[09:54] <damian_> wow
[09:54] <damian_> did you do it
[09:54] <rr72> heck nho
[09:54] <rr72> i asked my friend first and he said no
[09:54] <KiDD420> I was about to
[09:54] <KiDD420> thanks :P
[09:54] <damian_> yeah i've heard of peeps playing pranks on noobs like that
[09:54] <aliasfred> so the warning was not useless :)
[09:54] <rr72> i was one of the noobs
[09:54] <KiDD420> -rf removes confirmation?
[09:54] <damian_> yeah
[09:55] <rr72> go to chatjunkies and #linux
[09:55] <rr72> they do it all the time
[09:55] <aliasfred> KiDD420: -f remove confirmation and -r make it go thru all the subdirectories
[09:55] <damian_> ooh lemme try
[09:55] <rr72> specielly syberghost
[09:55] <rr72> -f is like force ;)
[09:55] <mioemi_> Martini, which phrase?
[09:57] <rr72> ok how do i export my gcc compiler to make nvidia driver install the kernel headers?
[09:57] <rr72> someone told me to save my system from signal 11 but i forgot who it was
[09:58] <rr72> then i asked him/her if i need to set it back to what it was and he said no it will do taht on restart
[09:58] <rr72> i speficily remember that
[09:59] <cossidhon> Hi, my tools menu in konqi is completely empty. any idea's?
[10:01] <rr72> Ok my screen doesnt turn on
[10:02] <rr72> i think i need an nvidia driver, when i install i get errors about my gcc compiler being wrong bersion please help me
[10:02] <KiDD420> i love linux
[10:02] <rr72> i had a similier problem signal 11
[10:02] <rr72> i fixed it but i need the export statement i did earlier
[10:03] <rr72> but ubotu wasnt here and i forgot who gave it to me, and .bash_history doesnt go back taht far
[10:04] <damian_> jihad osama bomb blow up muhammed alah terrorism infidel kill bush
[10:04] <nico8481_> hi
[10:05] <mioemi_> U R mad damain
[10:05] <damian_> no
[10:05] <steveire> I'm surprised rm * works without confirmation.
[10:05] <damian_> i'm seeing if
[10:05] <steveire> seeing as the data is then unrecoverabl
[10:05] <steveire> e
[10:05] <damian_> the government is really spying on me
[10:05] <damian_> those words should set off their detection systems
[10:06] <nico8481_> when i try to upgrade the system via adept, it shows me that kdelibs is in "broken (installed)" state, and it seems to prevent adept from upgrading the rest... any idea how to solve this?
[10:06] <mioemi_> but this place is not meant for politicians
[10:06] <damian_> does removing kdelibs work
[10:06] <damian_> and then reinstalling
[10:06] <mioemi_> we R techno here
[10:07] <nico8481_> damian_: can i uninstall kdelibs while running kde ?!
[10:07] <damian_> no
[10:07] <damian_> uninstall it from console
[10:07] <damian_> without running x
[10:07] <damian_> then do apt-get install kdelibs
[10:07] <damian_> to get a fresh new copy
[10:07] <KiDD420> how do I make a simple shortcut on my desktop that will run firefox
[10:08] <damian_> KiDD issue the command whereis firefox
[10:08] <damian_> find out where it is
[10:08] <damian_> right click on the desktop and make a link to the executable
[10:08] <KiDD420> link to application?
[10:08] <damian_> you could do it that way
[10:08] <damian_> or just link to the binary directly
[10:08] <KiDD420> how would I
[10:09] <damian_> are you running kubuntu or ubuntu
[10:09] <KiDD420> kde
[10:09] <damian_> ok
[10:09] <damian_> right click on the desktop
[10:09] <damian_> create new
[10:09] <KiDD420> k
[10:09] <damian_> link to app
[10:09] <damian_> then enter the path of firefox binary
[10:10] <damian_> use whereis firefox to find the path
[10:10] <KiDD420> enter the path where
[10:10] <damian_> in the text field under the general tab in the window that pops up
[10:10] <bgrimm> KiDD420: or go to KDE menu. right click on Menu item and choose ADD TO DESKTOP
[10:11] <nico8481_> damian_: ok, it seems to be prevented to install because it tries to overwrite so file that is part of the ktorrent package
[10:11] <KiDD420> its not in the menu
[10:11] <nico8481_> some mimelnk... gonna see if i can force the install
[10:11] <KiDD420> I have it installed in my home folder
[10:11] <nico8481_> (remember the param to use?)
[10:11] <rodrigo__> Sombody could give me some repository for mp3 for Amarok?
[10:11] <damian_> oh
[10:11] <damian_> KiDD then find the binary in your home folder
[10:12] <damian_> and put the path in the text field
[10:12] <soulrider> hey hey
[10:12] <rodrigo__> soulrider: colud you give me a repository for mp3 for amarok?
[10:13] <soulrider> rodrigo, i suggest you go to the amaork website
[10:13] <soulrider> everything is explained there on how to add MP3 support
[10:13] <soulrider> and repos
[10:13] <steveire> !mp3
[10:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:14] <soulrider> rodrigo__: esperame 2 minutos y te explico todo
[10:14] <rodrigo__> soulrider: oka XD
[10:15] <KiDD420> Ok
[10:15] <KiDD420> In the application tab i have "'/home/levi/firefox/firefox-bin'" as the command and the workpath set to /home/levi/firefox
[10:15] <KiDD420> is that right
[10:16] <KiDD420> I can get it to load from console with ./firefox it shows some errors and runs anyways
[10:17] <damian_> what errors
[10:22] <KiDD420> how do I view a channel list in konversation
[10:22] <steveire>  /list ubuntu*
[10:23] <KiDD420> cool
[10:23] <KiDD420> I got my shorttcut working too
[10:23] <KiDD420> thanks
[10:23] <steveire> There's thoudands of channels, so you'd want to restrict it
[10:23] <steveire> actually, you don't need the start
[10:23] <steveire> star*
[10:23] <KiDD420> i dont know what Im looking dor
[10:24] <steveire> want to browse?
[10:24] <rodrigo__> soulrider: dont forgive me soulrider.....:-)
[10:24] <KiDD420> yea
[10:25] <KiDD420> what the general chat room called?
[10:25] <steveire> eh #freenode I think
[10:26] <RYS_Sleeping> How do you enable root login for KDE on Kubuntu? I'm not able AllowRootLogin=true in the kderc file.
[10:26] <RYS_Sleeping> Is there another locations?
[10:27] <RYS_> or file to edit.
[10:29] <sebbar> hello everybody. One question: I have a dsl connection configured through pppoeconf, the problem is that sometimes my eth1 isn't brought up on boot and I have to reboot in order for things to work. Any idea how I can bring it up without rebooting?
[10:29] <RYS_> ah,
[10:29] <RYS_> Never mind it's kdmrc, not kderc.
[10:30] <soulrider> rodrigo__: in sec:P
[10:30] <edu> hi
[10:30] <edu> is the lt modem driver built-in in kubuntu?
[10:30] <rodrigo__> soulrider: ok.......no problems!
[10:31] <sebbar> it's just a plain dsl ethernet modem
[10:31] <sebbar> no need for drivers
[10:32] <sebbar> i think there was a command that scans for your ethernet interfaces but I don't remember which one
[10:34] <GBK> where's the download manager?
[10:34] <soulrider> rodrigo__: try this http://www.ubuntux.org/mp3-support-for-amarok
[10:35] <rodrigo__> soulrider: thank you very much soulrider
[10:36] <soulrider> :)
[10:37] <KiDD420> my first day on linux.... not too bad
[10:37] <GBK> i need a download manager for a large file. any ideas what to use?
[10:37] <KiDD420> if only I could play Call of DUty 2
[10:38] <abattoir> GBK: kget ?
[10:38] <sebbar> wget :-)
[10:40] <GBK> I have wget by default, so how do I download a file from internet?
[10:40] <uniq> wget http://somewhere.on.internet.com/dir/file.tar.gz
[10:40] <sebbar> wget http://.../file.ext
[10:41] <sebbar> oh man
[10:41] <KiDD420> ok I made a shortcut to run OTTD and when I click it it runs ottd and open a tab in bar saying opening ttd altho its running
[10:41] <sebbar> too slow :-)
[10:41] <crrj> that would be: man wget ;D
[10:42] <sebbar> or RTFM :-D
[10:42] <GBK> ok, so I know the page link, but I simply have this button called "download" click it and it begins
[10:43] <GBK> how do I get that bit right?
[10:46] <sebbar> gbk can't you just download your file with firefox? how large is it?
[10:46] <GBK> its 400M+
[10:47] <GBK> i have only about 48k max download speed
[10:47] <sebbar> firefox has a resume downloading option, I don't think that will be a problem
[10:49] <GBK> yes, but if you quit, (turn of PC) then you cannot resume.
[10:49] <KiDD420> how do I make firefox the default webbrozer
[10:50] <sebbar> whats the file you want to download? can you tell us?
[10:50] <alex___> hi friends
[10:50] <sebbar> hi alex
[10:50] <alex___> i have a problem with adept,
[10:50] <KiDD420> who doesnt
[10:50] <sebbar> lool
[10:50] <damian_> GBK i recommend flashgot+kget
[10:50] <uniq> i don't.
[10:51] <GBK> http://www.gamershell.com/download_6363.shtml  the file is "steel panthers"
[10:51] <alex___> if i run adept from the kubuntu menu', i obtain this message "Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one."
[10:52] <slow-motion> n8
[10:52] <uniq> !adept crash fix > alex___
[10:52] <alex___> what is the other application?
[10:53] <alex___> how i can know what is the other application...
[10:53] <uniq> 'fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock' will tell you iirc.
[10:54] <sebbar> ok gbk open konsole and type wget http://download10.gamershell.com/cgi-bin/fh2.pl?auth=jhLue0qGowlLI&id=6363&ts=1154811386&cat=demo&filename=SteelPanthersWorldAtWarSetup-v820.zip
[10:54] <sebbar> but you know you probably won't be able to play this on linux right?
[10:55] <alex___> with the "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock", i don't obtain any errors
[10:56] <GBK> thanx, will do, i undrestand only the first bit of the url, how do you get the rest?
[10:57] <nickay> hi. I have a problem with kppp. When i am trying to connect with kppp i get an error: The pppd daemon died unexpectedly! Exit status: 1". There anyone who can help  me? Thanks
[10:57] <sebbar> just clicked on download and that's what it asked me to save :-)
[10:59] <GBK> oh. How do i know the download is continuing, where does it save the file and if I shut down my pc,how do I resume?
[11:01] <joseph> Hello. Whenever I try to access my CD Rom drive I get this error: Could not enter folder /media/cdrom0, can anyone help me?
[11:02] <nickay> hi. I have a problem with kppp. When i am trying to connect with kppp i get an error: The pppd daemon died unexpectedly! Exit status: 1". There anyone who can help  me? Thanks
[11:03] <joseph> No one responds here.
[11:03] <joseph> But on the #ubuntu channel, someone is always there.
[11:04] <crimsun> is that really surprising? #ubuntu is the main support channel.
[11:04] <crimsun> unless your issue is absolutely KDE-specific, often your question is better asked in #ubuntu.
[11:07] <lascar> i got kde back
[11:07] <coachj> hope someone will help, I tried ti install the 3d drivers for my ati 8500 now after rebooting ang adjusting and reboot again the screen realstate is only partly used, what do i do?
[11:07] <lascar> but i seem to have lost kynaptic during the upgrade.  Can anyone help me get it back (apt-get won't work)?
[11:11] <KiDD420> anyone here play privateer?
[11:12] <lascar> i seem to have lost kynaptic during the upgrade.  Can anyone help me get it back (apt-get won't work)?
[11:14] <asimon> lascar: I fear there is no kynaptic package for Dapper, acording to packages.ubuntu.com there are only packages for hoary and breezy.
[11:15] <lascar> asimon: so that leaves us with just apt-get?
[11:16] <wolfmanz> privateer as in the old dos game?
[11:17] <uniq> lascar: it's been replaced with the new and shiny 'adept'
[11:17] <uniq> lascar: kmenu - system - adept.
[11:18] <asimon> lascar: If you dont like Adept, you could also install 'synaptic', its no KDE application, but looks very similar to kynaptic
[11:18] <uranther> i changed my KDE colors to a high contrast white on black type thing, but now the user tooltips in Gaim are unreadable because it's white on light yellow
[11:18] <lascar> asimon: i tried that, still no go
[11:18] <uranther> nevermind, all the tooltips are like that
[11:18] <lascar> but no worries, i'll make do with apt
[11:19] <lascar> i like it better anyhow
[11:19] <asimon> lascar: What do you mean with no-go? Doesn't it work?
[11:19] <lascar> asimon: scratch that; my mistake.
[11:20] <lascar> thanx anyway
[11:20] <lascar> laterz
[11:20] <asimon> ;-)
[11:21] <plhardy> i just installed a kubuntu 6.06 dowloaded tofday on an external USB HDD and find at least three different bug that prevent it to work, the last one i need more time to fix it ( need to regenerate an initrd )
[11:21] <KiDD420> how do I make firefox my default broser?
[11:22] <plhardy> is kubuntu install sharing same code than ubuntu one ( i mean for the generation of grub menu.lst ?)
[11:22] <asimon> uranther: yes, it looks like the color of these tooltips are hardcoded and don't follow the color theme. Not good.
[11:23] <uranther> asimon: so take it up with #gaim? :)
[11:24] <asimon> uranther: I dunno, could also be a GTK+ issue, but I am sure the gaim people know much more about it then me.
[11:24] <Philip5> KiDD420: start konqueror and go into settings and change the file association for html files etc
[11:24] <heinkel_111> it hink he suddenly disappeared
[11:24] <tsdgeos> plhardy: probably
[11:25] <plhardy> i think i will fill some bugs then and propose fixes
[11:25] <coachj> I keep losing the video settings causing the display to use only a portion of the aviable realstate, help me please
[11:27] <KiDD420> Philip5: Thanks THatttt works great
[11:27] <plugs> what does it mean when a package has no installation candidate?
[11:29] <wolfmanz> !easyubuntu
[11:29] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[11:31] <asimon> plugs: I think that can mean that the package is a dependency of an other package but can not be found in the package database.
[11:32] <plugs> ah allright thanks
[11:33] <dek> any idea why Krusader explorer crashes everytime I go to /dev/ ?
[11:33] <wolfmanz> how loing will it take the ubuntu people to start using the 2.17 kernal?
[11:34] <asimon> wolfmanz: 2.6.17 will be the kernel for Edgy.
[11:35] <wolfmanz> lol and thats do out when?
[11:35] <crimsun> end of october.
[11:36] <Tommy> why does my dads pc not power down, just stays at will now halt
[11:36] <dek> djk_ i dont seem to have latest version
[11:36] <dek> let me update
[11:36] <asimon> Yes, October, 26th.
[11:37] <catchme> has so experience in installing clamav on dapper
[11:38] <djk_> how do i get a list of who has read/write access to which directory?
[11:38] <wolfmanz> tommy thats a known bug
[11:38] <wolfmanz> tommy i have had that same thing happen now about 4 times on power down
[11:39] <catchme> djk try ls -l
[11:39] <asimon> catchme: Sorry, I have no expierience with Clamav, but there is a page with some infos here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ClamAV
[11:40] <catchme> thank you asimon
[11:47] <bgrimm> is Minicom still the standard for use as a serial port/terminal program?
[11:51] <nagyv> Hello! Which chm reader would you recommend for kde? I always get an error with kchmviewver.
[11:53] <dek> why my repositories download version 1.60.1 of Krusader when 1.70.1 is available? I try to update it manually downloading the .deb and i get some dependancies error
[11:54] <Hawkwind> dek: Because 1.60.1 is the newest available on the mirrors
[11:54] <asimon> nagyv: kchmviewer works for me, but I only have 2 or 3 chm files. You could also try 'xchm', then there is also a gnome version called 'gnochm'
[11:54] <dek> what mirrors?
[11:54] <crimsun> and more precisely, 1.60.1 is the newest version available for dapper.
[11:55] <dek> oh ok then
[11:55] <crimsun> 1.70.0 is for edgy, and you can't mix and match those binaries.
[11:55] <jott> dek: try automatix they provide a 1.70.0 build
[11:55] <dek> it crashes every time i surf to /dev/ :-/
[11:55] <dek> I wanted 1.70.1 to fix that
[11:56] <crimsun> 1.70.1 is not in Sid yet.
[11:56] <jott> you could build your own package using the 1.70.0 patch for the edgy build ;)
[11:56] <crimsun> imbrandon: ping? Any plans for krusader 1.70.1 (since it's in universe)?
[11:57] <dek> no idea how to, I'm new to Linux
[11:57] <dek> :P
[11:58] <nagyv> any ideas how to tie a device to a given mount point. My external winchester is sometimes recognized as sda1, sdb1, etc. I gave it a label and put it into fstab, but even that did not helped. Is there any way to have it mounted always under the same direcory?
[11:58] <jott> yuck.. huge patch file for the edgy build...
[11:59] <nagyv> asimon: xchm works, thx
[12:00] <dek> I have another question, how can I make ALL of my NTFS mounted partitions appear in system:/media/ ? They appear in /media/
[12:05] <eelco> hello, does any one know why my user password doesn't work for Adept?