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| Kamion | bddebian: no - use -v | 12:33 |
| Spads | jdub: unpong | 12:34 |
| bddebian | Kamion: Thx | 12:37 |
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| Hobbsee | morning all | 04:07 |
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| rodarvus | hi Hobbsee | 04:12 |
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| Hobbsee | rodarvus: i'm looking at the upgrades. sure you didnt breka anything? :P | 04:13 |
| rodarvus | anyone with an amd64 edgy installation willing to test-build qemu for me? | 04:14 |
| rodarvus | Hobbsee, nah, not yet :) | 04:14 |
| rodarvus | but I have a full weekend in front of me! | 04:14 |
| Hobbsee | rodarvus: hehehe.... | 04:15 |
| Hobbsee | rodarvus: should i get my long pointy stick out? | 04:15 |
| Hobbsee | rodarvus: and polish it up, all ready to use on the people who break things? | 04:15 |
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| bluefoxicy | Hobbsee: it's more fun to bludgeon people repeatedly with a blunt stick than it is to drive a pointy stick into them | 04:18 |
| Hobbsee | bluefoxicy: well....if that's your preference, yes | 04:18 |
| bluefoxicy | they don't stop moving as fast | 04:18 |
| bluefoxicy | (in fact people are much more useful when they're still breathing and not full of holes) | 04:19 |
| Hobbsee | hah | 04:20 |
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| ajmitch | rodarvus: I can build qemu if you like | 04:23 |
| ajmitch | you have an updated source package available? | 04:23 |
| rodarvus | yup | 04:23 |
| rodarvus | just finished building it on i386 | 04:23 |
| rodarvus | didn't tested it yet, though :D | 04:23 |
| ajmitch | it builds, ship it :) | 04:24 |
| rodarvus | yeah! | 04:24 |
| rodarvus | let me just dogfood it a little while before uploading | 04:24 |
| ajmitch | ok | 04:24 |
| ajmitch | still want me to do a test amd64 build before you subject the archives to it? | 04:24 |
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| rodarvus | amazing, it works. | 04:27 |
| rodarvus | ajmitch, I'm uploading it now, will hand you the url in a second | 04:27 |
| rodarvus | ajmitch, yes, please do | 04:27 |
| ajmitch | ok | 04:28 |
| rodarvus | (uploading to people.ubuntu.com, I mean :) ) | 04:28 |
| rodarvus | ajmitch, http://people.ubuntu.com/~rodarvus/packages/qemu/ | 04:29 |
| jdub | mdz: ping | 04:29 |
| ajmitch | yep, got it | 04:30 |
| rodarvus | thanks! | 04:30 |
| ajmitch | jdub: what did you need to convince me of for beaglefs? | 04:32 |
| jdub | ajmitch: wasn't sure if you wanted to maintain it long term | 04:32 |
| ajmitch | fine by me | 04:32 |
| jdub | sweet, thanks | 04:32 |
| jdub | mdz, doko: ping (rrdtool) | 04:40 |
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| ajmitch | rodarvus: qemu built fine | 04:45 |
| rodarvus | ajmitch, nice, I'll upload it - thanks a lot for the test-build! | 04:46 |
| rodarvus | qemu uploaded | 04:54 |
| rodarvus | I call it a day | 04:54 |
| rodarvus | good night all | 04:54 |
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| rodarvus | ? | 04:55 |
| rodarvus | anyhow | 04:55 |
| Fujitsu | trackballs in Debian has `xlibmesa-gl-dev | libgl-dev, libglu1-xorg-dev | libglu-dev', while Ubuntu has `libgl1-mesa-dev | libgl-dev, libglu1-mesa-dev | libglu-dev' | 04:55 |
| Fujitsu | Which is correct? | 04:55 |
| Fujitsu | I haven't seen this libglu1-xorg-dev dependency before... | 04:56 |
| crimsun | Debian is. | 04:56 |
| crimsun | we now have a libglu1-xorg-dev that depends on libglu1-mesa-dev | 04:56 |
| Fujitsu | OK, thanks. | 04:57 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: you're doing trackballs? | 04:57 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee, yes, like I did a couple of weeks ago. | 04:58 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: cool, okay | 04:58 |
| jdub | tseng: ping | 04:58 |
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| mournahan | need help, dapper hard freezes 2-3 times daily and cant find any solution | 05:05 |
| Hobbsee | mournahan: --> #ubuntu | 05:06 |
| Hobbsee | mournahan: read the /topic | 05:06 |
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| mournahan | no help there, thought try here | 05:07 |
| mournahan | sorry | 05:07 |
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| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-devel:mdz] : Ubuntu Development (not support, even with edgy) | #ubuntu for support and general discussion | #ubuntu-motu for getting involved in development | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs | yes X in edgy is a mess atm | ||
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| tseng | jdub: hello | 07:03 |
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| Flowking | And here i thought everyone was useless for a while... until someone cool or i step aside sessie james will be ontop (Naah:) | 07:39 |
| Flowking | Cheers all .. each and everyone of you could potentially be just as cool as i am!!! | 07:41 |
| Flowking | I love you all | 07:41 |
| Flowking | Ill be coding for you even though crap stinks.. WE DO NOT CARE | 07:43 |
| Flowking | :=) | 07:43 |
| Flowking | 10 meters of snow... wont hinder me | 07:43 |
| Flowking | Ill be the breast coder :=) | 07:43 |
| Flowking | PCB.. find any coder better atm ?.. we need a trackrecord | 07:44 |
| Flowking | linus.. yeah.. but he is just GOOD | 07:44 |
| Flowking | :) | 07:45 |
| Flowking | So "Machine head- A thousand lies" ? | 07:45 |
| Flowking | Awesome | 07:45 |
| Flowking | Its all about rebooting the brain until the next time CRAZY BRAIN!!! | 07:46 |
| Flowking | :) | 07:46 |
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| Flowking | I could be at a thing called "Hedesunda sommar party" or something.... | 07:48 |
| Flowking | Sexxi | 07:48 |
| Flowking | :) | 07:48 |
| Flowking | Sorry Awesome hogs.... want me to lead.. no thats illegal nowdays too "Infringement or some shit!" | 07:52 |
| neuralis | Flowking: you're trolling and flooding; please leave. | 07:52 |
| Flowking | So, No i cant even teach you how to COMPUTE | 07:52 |
| tseng | neuralis: good luck with that. | 07:52 |
| Flowking | ssh | 07:52 |
| Flowking | neuralis: you see how HHHG will affect the gilted aswell ? | 07:53 |
| Flowking | neuralis: "The rage to Overcome" "Machine Head" | 07:54 |
| Flowking | Keep an open mind and youll be Be | 07:54 |
| Flowking | neuralis: download some of that man.. really good to be coding to | 07:55 |
| Flowking | Relaxing | 07:56 |
| Flowking | neuralis: is it sexxi or do you have a slow pipe (Zap Brannagan:) | 07:57 |
| neuralis | -- Ignoring ALL from Flowking/* | 07:58 |
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| Flowking | Alternatively youve been swallowed by a small dog | 07:58 |
| tseng | lilo: ah thank goodness | 07:58 |
| lilo | orientation? | 07:58 |
| Flowking | MORON | 07:58 |
| lilo | tseng: flowking? | 07:58 |
| Flowking | You dont rock | 07:58 |
| tseng | lilo: yes. | 07:58 |
| === mode/#ubuntu-devel [+b %Flowking!*@*] by lilo | ||
| neuralis | lilo: i just paged you. | 07:58 |
| neuralis | lilo: thanks. | 07:59 |
| lilo | neuralis: *nod* got it | 07:59 |
| tseng | lilo: *hugs* | 07:59 |
| === mode/#ubuntu-devel [-b %flowking!*@*] by lilo | ||
| lilo | tseng: np | 08:00 |
| LaserJock | sweet | 08:00 |
| LaserJock | thanks lilo | 08:01 |
| Kamion | thanks, that was quick | 08:01 |
| lilo | my job | 08:01 |
| lilo | glad to help | 08:01 |
| === poningru hugs \sh_away hope you are feeling ok | ||
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| kagou | hi | 10:26 |
| kagou | who or where can i discuss about fridge.ubuntu ? | 10:26 |
| jdub | kagou: you can mail fridge-devel@lists | 10:28 |
| jdub | kagou: or see #ubuntu-fridge (if there's anyone still in it) | 10:28 |
| kagou | jdub: :p ok thanks | 10:28 |
| Nafallo | jdub: hi! did you get me e-mail about changed feed for the planet? :-) | 10:30 |
| Nafallo | (months ago *I think* | 10:30 |
| jdub | Nafallo: hrm, i just went through a bunch - can you send again? | 10:30 |
| === jdub doesn't have access to update it now, but will hopefully be getting that back soon enough | ||
| Nafallo | okidoki. | 10:31 |
| kagou | mattw: around ? | 10:31 |
| HrdwrBoB | erm | 10:31 |
| Nafallo | sent :-) | 10:31 |
| HrdwrBoB | is there any way to bootstrap a 64bit install form a 32bit install easily? | 10:31 |
| jdub | Nafallo: got it | 10:41 |
| jdub | thanks | 10:41 |
| Nafallo | no, thank you! :-) | 10:41 |
| jdub | NO THANK YOU! | 10:43 |
| === jdub quickly escapes to the shops! | ||
| Nafallo | hihi :-) | 10:44 |
| infinity | HrdwrBoB: If you're running a 64-bit kernel, you should be able to build a 64-bit chroot from 32-bit userland. | 10:44 |
| infinity | HrdwrBoB: If it's a 32-bit kernel, then you have no way of running 64-bit binaries, so it gets tougher. | 10:44 |
| HrdwrBoB | infinity: yeah, I'm not, so I just copied a 64 bit kernel on it | 10:44 |
| HrdwrBoB | and It'll be easy from there | 10:45 |
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| Hobbsee | evening all | 10:58 |
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| Kamion | BenC: you don't appear to be subscribed to linux-source-2.6.17 bugmail | 11:50 |
| Kamion | drat, need one more upload before dapper.1 | 11:51 |
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| janimo | Kamion: hi, I did not teste dapper releases so far because they were oversized | 11:52 |
| janimo | the 08.04 is the first testable one | 11:52 |
| Kamion | nod | 11:52 |
| janimo | it's only oversized on the PPC I have to check that too | 11:52 |
| janimo | besides rosetta updates and other base system changes there were only two extremely small package fixes in xubuntu | 11:53 |
| janimo | so in theory all should go well | 11:53 |
| Kamion | yeah, noticed when going through the changes last night | 11:53 |
| janimo | but will need testing anyway | 11:53 |
| Kamion | would be nice to test ubiquity in the context of xubuntu, though | 11:53 |
| janimo | right | 11:53 |
| Kamion | powerpc should probably be fixed by removing language packs | 11:54 |
| Kamion | language packs have grown a bit since dapper | 11:54 |
| janimo | right, although I am not sure what changed since dapper. did some components get added? | 11:54 |
| janimo | ah ok. | 11:54 |
| Kamion | the size increase of the xubuntu desktop CD is about what I'd expect | 11:55 |
| Kamion | want me to take care of it? I have the figures to hand | 11:55 |
| janimo | oh, I confused things. the edgy dailies were oversized on all archs, and this is the first daily for dapper.1 | 11:55 |
| Kamion | aaaaactually | 11:55 |
| janimo | sure if it's not much trouble, thanks | 11:56 |
| Kamion | no need to remove bits - that build was hit by a sort of a debian-cd bug | 11:56 |
| Kamion | which allocated ~5MB too much space for the HFS hybrid metadata on powerpc | 11:56 |
| Kamion | I'll do full rebuilds of everything soon, which should clear that up. Do you have a tester ready to go now? If so I can do you first. | 11:57 |
| janimo | I need to check | 11:57 |
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| janimo | as it's 3h download from here I may find someone with better bandwidth | 11:57 |
| janimo | and inclination to test | 11:57 |
| Kamion | nod, 2/3h per image for me too | 11:58 |
| doko | Kamion, pitti: Is there still time for a dapper-security upload for the CD images? | 11:58 |
| janimo | Kamion: but yes if you rebuild I can start downloading and test today | 11:59 |
| Kamion | doko: something that goes on the live CD? I'd hoped I was done with the live filesystem builds | 11:59 |
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| Kamion | doko: details (in /msg if need be) | 11:59 |
| janimo | is the 386 image changing as well since yesterdays or just the PPC? | 11:59 |
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| Kamion | janimo: I need to update gfxboot-theme-ubuntu's translations, so all CD images will be rebuilt | 11:59 |
| janimo | as I may start the dl now otherwise | 11:59 |
| janimo | ok | 11:59 |
| janimo | Gloubiboulga: hi | 11:59 |
| Kamion | but you can rsync, it won't be a huge change | 11:59 |
| Kamion | you know the rsync runes? | 11:59 |
| janimo | right | 11:59 |
| janimo | I hope I have themin bash history :) | 12:00 |
| janimo | unless the URLs changed since dapper | 12:00 |
| janimo | it should be ok | 12:00 |
| janimo | btw uploads to edgy are stil ok at this point no? | 12:00 |
| Kamion | stick dapper/ in before daily or daily-live | 12:01 |
| Kamion | I needed to be able to build dapper and edgy in parallel so that's changed a bit | 12:01 |
| Kamion | edgy> sure | 12:01 |
| Kamion | doko: after the point release, please | 12:02 |
| Kamion | doko: (sorry, but the cut has to come somewhere, and after I've spent three hours doing livefs builds seems like a plausible place) | 12:02 |
| doko | Kamion: sure | 12:03 |
| Kamion | I'll let you know if we'll need a rebuild for other reasons | 12:03 |
| Gloubiboulga | hi janimo | 12:06 |
| Gloubiboulga | hi all :) | 12:06 |
| ajmitch | hello Gloubiboulga | 12:06 |
| janimo | Gloubiboulga: seems we'll have 6.06.1 candidates in a few hours | 12:06 |
| janimo | I am downloading yesterdays image now | 12:07 |
| Kamion | msgid "Start Ubuntu in safe ^graphics mode" | 12:07 |
| Kamion | +msgstr "Paleisti Ubuntu VESA ^grafiniu reimu" | 12:07 |
| Kamion | interesting telepathy from the Lithuanian translator there :) | 12:07 |
| Gloubiboulga | janimo, ok, I have to leave now, but I'll test images tonight | 12:07 |
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| Nafallo | hehe | 12:26 |
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| Kamion | scheisse, I do need a livefs rebuild due to the publisher crash | 12:52 |
| Kamion | going to make it as fast as possible though - the relevant source is publishing now | 12:52 |
| StevenK | Ahhh, that'd be why my new upload is not being published. | 12:54 |
| StevenK | Hopefully my upload didn't kill it. | 12:54 |
| Kamion | no, not any upload's fault | 12:54 |
| StevenK | Kay. | 12:54 |
| Kamion | long story related to the point release, but it's being sorted now | 12:55 |
| StevenK | Right. | 12:55 |
| Kamion | what was your upload? I'll check for it | 12:55 |
| StevenK | libapache-mod-jk 1:1.2.18-1ubuntu1 | 12:56 |
| StevenK | Kamion: Thanks | 12:56 |
| Kamion | 10:51:12 DEBUG Added /srv/launchpad.net/ubuntu-archive/ubuntu/pool/universe/liba/libapache-mod-jk/libapache-mod-jk_1.2.18-1ubuntu1.diff.gz from library | 12:56 |
| Kamion | 10:51:12 DEBUG Added /srv/launchpad.net/ubuntu-archive/ubuntu/pool/universe/liba/libapache-mod-jk/libapache-mod-jk_1.2.18-1ubuntu1.dsc from library | 12:56 |
| Kamion | 10:51:12 DEBUG Added /srv/launchpad.net/ubuntu-archive/ubuntu/pool/universe/liba/libapache-mod-jk/libapache-mod-jk_1.2.18.orig.tar.gz from library | 12:56 |
| Kamion | yep, being published now | 12:56 |
| StevenK | Cool, thanks. | 12:56 |
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| pygi | sivang, poke | 01:07 |
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| Riddell | Kamion: I'm uploading a new kubuntu-meta to dapper-updates with a langpack removed from powerpc, could you approve when it arrives | 02:19 |
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| Kamion | Riddell: yes, but hang on | 02:19 |
| Kamion | Riddell: are you looking at the powerpc live CD? | 02:19 |
| Riddell | Kamion: yes | 02:20 |
| Kamion | Riddell: that's affected by a debian-cd bug - please wait until the build I just did arrives on the mirrors and base numbers on that | 02:20 |
| Riddell | ok | 02:21 |
| Kamion | Riddell: also I believe that all architectures are slightly too big at the moment | 02:21 |
| Kamion | I realise there's no .OVERSIZED file | 02:21 |
| Riddell | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/dapper/daily-live/20060805/ ? | 02:21 |
| Kamion | but recent information suggests that some software gets unhappy if the image is over 700 MB | 02:21 |
| Riddell | powerpc has .OVERSIZED | 02:21 |
| Kamion | i.e. 734003200 | 02:21 |
| Kamion | bytes | 02:21 |
| Kamion | yes, powerpc is clearly over, although less far over than in 20060804 | 02:21 |
| Riddell | but i386 is also over for some software? | 02:22 |
| Kamion | my figures are 440320 bytes for amd64, 1208320 bytes for i386, 4100096 bytes for powerpc | 02:22 |
| Kamion | I think so | 02:22 |
| Riddell | ok, I'll trim some more | 02:23 |
| doko | Riddell, Kamion: OOo will shrink by 1.6 mb for the next upload to edgy, but maybe too late for knot-2 | 02:31 |
| Kamion | ok, thanks | 02:32 |
| Kamion | not sure when I'm doing knot-2, may not squeeze it in before I go on holiday | 02:33 |
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| Kamion | sfllaw: it would be good if you could check over DebuggingUbiquity for the usual patterns when splitting off misfiled bugs | 02:43 |
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| Riddell | Kamion: kubuntu-meta uploaded | 02:52 |
| ogra | Kamion, do you build edubuntu as well, or do i need to ? | 02:54 |
| Kamion | I'm just sorting out Edubuntu now - powerpc was a bit oversized | 02:54 |
| Kamion | I took out KDE language packs for pt de fr | 02:54 |
| ogra | thanks | 02:55 |
| Kamion | so at least they'll still get the desktop translations | 02:55 |
| ogra | hmm, i only saw oversizedness on the liveCD | 02:55 |
| Kamion | yes, I meant the live CD | 02:56 |
| ogra | and according to your comment on kubuntu ppc live i thought i'd wait for the next build to see if its really to big | 02:56 |
| ogra | but if you already removed them , then its fine :) | 02:57 |
| Kamion | I did a rebuild just before fiddling with the seeds, to test that | 03:01 |
| ogra | ok | 03:01 |
| Kamion | I knew it wouldn't quite rescue all the space though | 03:01 |
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| ogra | hmm, why doesnt dash know my environment ? $UID is empty :/ | 03:04 |
| Kamion | ogra: edubuntu-meta update will probably fail in edgy; I'm working on fixing it in germinate | 03:06 |
| Kamion | ogra: let me know if it becomes urgent | 03:06 |
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| ogra | depends how near knot-2 is :) | 03:07 |
| pygi | bye all | 03:08 |
| Kamion | should definitely have it sorted before then | 03:08 |
| Kamion | fixing the corresponding dapper breakage now | 03:08 |
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| ogra | ok | 03:08 |
| Kamion | and shuffling the publisher byhand again | 03:09 |
| Kamion | ogra: actually, no, edgy works fine, and the dapper breakage is probably my bad due to a seed merge | 03:15 |
| ogra | is it the server seed ? | 03:19 |
| ogra | the edubuntu one is still trivially small and doesnt change usually | 03:19 |
| Kamion | kind of, it's broken inheritance in STRUCTURE | 03:21 |
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| bddebian | Howdy | 03:30 |
| Kamion | right, kubuntu-meta accepted, edubuntu seeds fixed, edubuntu-meta uploaded/accepted, publisher running | 03:35 |
| Kamion | ogra: sorry for the spurious edubuntu-meta upload attempt to edgy and consequent reject | 03:36 |
| ogra | dont worry :) | 03:37 |
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| pitti | Hobbsee: hi | 03:59 |
| Hobbsee | heya pitti! | 03:59 |
| pitti | Hobbsee: did you see the u-d mail about sponsoring? | 04:00 |
| Hobbsee | pitti: not yet. i'm on the digest | 04:00 |
| TheMuso | pitti: I was actually working with crimsun today. I used the script to upload a debdiff, and he found it teedious to have to extract, save, and apply the debdiff by hand. He can probably tell you more about it/ | 04:07 |
| pitti | TheMuso: yes, we can also write a script which does the gpg, apt-get source, patch, debuild -S -k automatically | 04:07 |
| TheMuso | Right. | 04:08 |
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| janimo | pitti, congrats for leading the security charts :) | 04:21 |
| pitti | hey janimo, thanks :) | 04:27 |
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| Kamion | kubuntu/edubuntu livefses building | 05:15 |
| Kamion | xubuntu will follow too | 05:15 |
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| mdz | Kamion: are these candidates for testing? | 05:21 |
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| Kamion | mdz: yes | 05:37 |
| Kamion | Ubuntu alternate and desktop built, ready for testing | 05:38 |
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| mdz | ok | 05:40 |
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| mdz | Kamion: 20060805? | 05:40 |
| Kamion | yes | 05:42 |
| Kamion | (for both) | 05:42 |
| Kamion | derivatives may have different build numbers | 05:43 |
| Kamion | (for anyone else watching) | 05:43 |
| Kamion | kubuntu alternate and desktop building | 05:43 |
| mdz | Kamion: do you have a list of what has changed and so most needs testing? | 05:43 |
| Kamion | mdz: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperPointOneAnnouncement has most of the changes | 05:44 |
| mdz | which installer cases, which apps | 05:44 |
| Kamion | although in the case of the desktop it's kind of "well, most of GNOME changed" | 05:44 |
| mdz | Kamion: s/including a large memory leak/including a fix for.../ I think ;-) | 05:45 |
| Kamion | I caught most of the significant installer changes there, though | 05:45 |
| Kamion | hah, yes | 05:45 |
| Kamion | (fixed) | 05:45 |
| Kamion | mdz: is the style of that announcement ok? I chose the changelog style because I thought it would be useful to reassure certifiers about what we're messing with | 05:46 |
| Kamion | but the detailed list of changes could be split off if you want | 05:46 |
| mdz | I think we can remove the paragraph which says that 6.06.1 is the first long-term release | 05:46 |
| mdz | the first sentence anyway | 05:46 |
| mdz | or change it to refer back to 6.06 LTS | 05:47 |
| Kamion | makes sense | 05:47 |
| Lure | any reason that we have both ruby and ruby1.8 packages in edgy (both 1.8.x)? | 05:47 |
| Treenaks | (universe totem-{xine,gstreamer}-firefox-plugin broke because of the totem upgrade) | 05:47 |
| Kamion | mdz: changed | 05:48 |
| Kamion | Lure: apt-cache show ruby | 05:48 |
| mdz | I'll tweak a bit while I wait for downloads | 05:48 |
| mdz | oh, you still have it locked | 05:48 |
| Kamion | it's saving slothfully | 05:48 |
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| Kamion | should be unlocked now | 05:49 |
| Lure | Kamion: thanks (metapackage or so...) | 05:51 |
| mdz | Kamion: do you have a quick statistic for the total number of package updates applied on the CD? | 05:52 |
| mdz | source packages that is | 05:52 |
| Kamion | not trivially - I can come up with one though | 05:55 |
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| mdz | gar, desktop is still vaguely unstable | 05:58 |
| mdz | I think we can safely say "over 200" | 06:01 |
| Kamion | now let's remember how join(1) works | 06:02 |
| Kamion | unstable? | 06:02 |
| Kamion | mdz: in terms of binaries, 516 on dapper-alternate-i386.iso are updated | 06:03 |
| Kamion | sources, give me a minute | 06:04 |
| mdz | Kamion: I'm comfortable with "over 200", honestly | 06:05 |
| mdz | there have been more than that many uploads to dapper-changes since release | 06:05 |
| Kamion | mdz: 21 sources from -security, 330 sources from -updates | 06:05 |
| Kamion | (I was already mostly done) | 06:06 |
| mdz | ok, over 300 then | 06:06 |
| mdz | that includes langpacks I assume? | 06:06 |
| mdz | those weren't on -changes | 06:06 |
| Kamion | everything, that's comparing grep-dctrl -nsFilename with pool/*/*/*/*.*deb basically | 06:06 |
| Kamion | 62 of those 330 are language-(pack|support) | 06:07 |
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| Kamion | oh, yeah, kubuntu alternate and desktop ready for testing :) | 06:07 |
| Kamion | edubuntu livefs still building, slow thing | 06:08 |
| Kamion | mdz: unstable desktop -> dapper or edgy? | 06:08 |
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| mdz | Kamion: edgy | 06:10 |
| Kamion | oh, good. well, not good, but YKWIM | 06:11 |
| mdz | bug #54726 | 06:11 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 54726 in xserver-xorg-video-ati "Random freezes in X" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/54726 | 06:11 |
| janimo | Kamion: should the two xubuntu changes be mentioned as well in that announcement? | 06:11 |
| Kamion | janimo: yes, I'll add them | 06:11 |
| janimo | ok, thanks | 06:11 |
| Kamion | janimo: I was doing the changelist before I decided it was reasonable to just have one announcement | 06:11 |
| mdz | I'd need to swap in an identical video card to be sure about whether it's a hardware issue | 06:12 |
| mdz | rsync is taking ages, only getting ~40kb/sec | 06:12 |
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| janimo | Gloubiboulga: I tested the image in qemu burning real CD now. Did it work for you? | 06:15 |
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| mdz | Kamion: ETA 3-4 hours here, you doing any better? | 06:15 |
| Kamion | janimo: reload, see if that makes sense? | 06:15 |
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| Kamion | mdz: desktop i386 ETA 1:24 allegedly, but amd64 came down a lot faster than that | 06:16 |
| Kamion | of course I'm *cough* rsyncing off lithium from pure habit | 06:16 |
| Kamion | really must stop doing that | 06:16 |
| bddebian | *cough* speaking of syncs *cough* ;-P | 06:16 |
| Kamion | but every time I'm reminded of it it's when other people's rsyncs are slow, so ... | 06:16 |
| bddebian | Heya Gloubiboulga | 06:16 |
| Gloubiboulga | janimo: I'm using the live cd | 06:17 |
| Gloubiboulga | and installing | 06:17 |
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| bddebian | Kamion: No worries, I'm just not sure what's left at this point :-) | 06:17 |
| janimo | Kamion: yes, looks good. | 06:17 |
| Kamion | janimo: thanks | 06:17 |
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| Kamion | I'll reorder that list at some point to be better-categorised rather than in rough date order of uploads | 06:18 |
| mdz | bddebian: if you're concerned about whether it'll break the live CD, I believe that's built using the dapper version of squashfs-tools, and if you want to warn the person responsible for that, that's infinity | 06:21 |
| Lure | if a package suggests/recomends (but not depends) on something from multiverse, can it still be in universe? | 06:21 |
| mdz | bddebian: (PS: your post is <24 hours old and it's Saturday :-P) | 06:21 |
| mdz | Lure: suggests, yes, recommends, not really | 06:21 |
| Kamion | Lure: suggests yes, for recommends it'd probably be a judgement call | 06:21 |
| Kamion | snap | 06:21 |
| Kamion | (ish) | 06:21 |
| Kamion | recommends should be increasingly like depends | 06:21 |
| Lure | Kamion: I suspect due to aptitiude behaviour to install as depends? | 06:22 |
| Lure | Kamion: any special procedure to move something from multiverse -> universe (when Depends are fixed)? | 06:22 |
| Kamion | you have the causality the wrong way round, but yes | 06:23 |
| Kamion | aptitude behaves that way because we want to be able to use recommends more effectively | 06:23 |
| Kamion | Lure: file bug on package, subscribe (*don't assign*) ubuntu-archive team | 06:23 |
| Lure | Kamion: ok, will get fixed package uploaded first by MOTU and then I will file request. Thanks! | 06:24 |
| bddebian | mdz: Well as usual I started on IRC first but I see your point, sorry | 06:26 |
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| mdz | it's edgy, upload first and ask questions later | 06:27 |
| bddebian | Well I don't want to get in "trouble" again :-) | 06:27 |
| mdz | but I wonder what squashfs is doing in universe | 06:27 |
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| mdz | Kamion: do you still hope to get some bug references from the GNOME team for the announcement? | 06:30 |
| mdz | I expect we'd have to call them up on Saturday | 06:30 |
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| Kamion | mdz: I think I might well just go through the uploads again; won't take that long | 06:32 |
| Kamion | it was late last night and I was just doing a first pass | 06:32 |
| Kamion | ogra: edubuntu alternate and desktop ready for testing | 06:43 |
| janimo | Kamion: is running the 386 iso on amd64 considered a valid use case? Desktop works but ubiquity crashes | 06:45 |
| Kamion | yes, that's valid | 06:45 |
| Kamion | can I have a bug with the crash dump and the logs please? | 06:45 |
| janimo | I'll file a report then | 06:45 |
| janimo | /var/log/installer/syslog right? | 06:46 |
| Kamion | all those listed in the crash dialog | 06:46 |
| Kamion | I'm assuming it crashed in such a way as to pop up a dialog with a traceback | 06:47 |
| janimo | right | 06:47 |
| Kamion | I'll probably only fix it now for the point release if it's a regression from dapper | 06:47 |
| janimo | sure, it probably is not | 06:48 |
| janimo | havent tried dapper on this box yet | 06:48 |
| Kamion | it should be easy enough for me to tell | 06:48 |
| janimo | going offline for a while since I only have one eth connection right now | 06:49 |
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| Kamion | ok, who made vim's completion facilities TRULY SCARY | 07:02 |
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| Kamion | janimo: ah, regression :( | 07:11 |
| Kamion | janimo: so that we don't have to wait for a whole new build cycle, could you apply this to /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/ubiquity/frontend/gtkui.py and try again? | 07:12 |
| Kamion | - if fstype is None: | 07:12 |
| Kamion | janimo: on line 1034 | 07:12 |
| Kamion | + if fstype is None and device in validate_filesystems: | 07:12 |
| Kamion | Gloubiboulga: you too | 07:12 |
| Gloubiboulga | Kamion: ok | 07:12 |
| Kamion | thanks | 07:13 |
| Gloubiboulga | it didn't crash with the change | 07:17 |
| Kamion | does it complete successfully? | 07:18 |
| Gloubiboulga | It's installing the system now | 07:18 |
| Kamion | real-world testing > constructed test cases, yet again | 07:18 |
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| Kamion | backporting the change right now | 07:19 |
| Kamion | janimo: did you get my earlier comments? | 07:19 |
| janimo | only in LP not on IRC | 07:19 |
| Kamion | 18:12 < Kamion> - if fstype is None: | 07:19 |
| Kamion | 18:12 < Kamion> + if fstype is None and device in validate_filesystems: | 07:19 |
| Kamion | could you apply that on line 1034 of /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/ubiquity/frontend/gtkui.py ? | 07:19 |
| Kamion | and try again | 07:19 |
| janimo | ok | 07:19 |
| Kamion | thanks | 07:19 |
| Kamion | just don't want to have to wait for a whole new build cycle to see if there are any further bugs you encounter | 07:20 |
| janimo | sure | 07:20 |
| Kamion | make sure to do the same things in the partitioner as far as you can | 07:21 |
| janimo | ok got further and is not installing | 07:23 |
| janimo | now | 07:23 |
| janimo | sorry :) | 07:23 |
| janimo | s/not/now/ | 07:24 |
| Kamion | phew | 07:24 |
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| janimo | so hopefully I don;t need to dl and burn a new image either | 07:24 |
| Kamion | xubuntu daily-live hadn't actually built yet - you were working off an older one | 07:25 |
| Kamion | I mean in my most recent round of builds | 07:25 |
| janimo | would be nice (but possibly hard) to have the partitioning steps automatable to run all kinds of random tests on it | 07:25 |
| Kamion | but if your tests here work, I'm happy to take that as sufficient for the point release provided tests on the final images for other flavours are good | 07:26 |
| Kamion | there are few enough changees | 07:26 |
| Kamion | changes | 07:26 |
| janimo | this was not xubuntu specific right? | 07:26 |
| Kamion | no | 07:26 |
| janimo | but the QT interface was not affected? | 07:26 |
| Kamion | see my explanation in the bug - that's the exact set of circumstances | 07:26 |
| Kamion | it was | 07:26 |
| Kamion | I'm fixing both, the code's the same | 07:27 |
| Kamion | (bit of duplication ...) | 07:27 |
| janimo | ok, haven;t read all of LP comments yet | 07:27 |
| Kamion | uploading to dapper-updates now | 07:27 |
| Kamion | mdz: I'm out tonight - if you're around, could you rebuild all four livefses? otherwise don't worry, I'll do them when I get back and it'll be time enough | 07:35 |
| Kamion | once ubiquity 1.0.17 binaries arrive | 07:36 |
| Kamion | alternate install CDs won't need to change, nor will the server CDs that I'm building now, so you can safely continue testing those | 07:36 |
| Gloubiboulga | Kamion: installation finished here (succesfully it seems) | 07:37 |
| Kamion | great, thanks | 07:37 |
| Gloubiboulga | have a nice evening :) | 07:38 |
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| Nafallo | anyone know if Keybuk is on vacation, and in that case for how long? | 07:50 |
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| mdz | Kamion: can do | 08:00 |
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| Nafallo | hmm | 08:07 |
| Nafallo | cdbs should update the icon cache automatically, right? | 08:08 |
| Nafallo | if the package has the gnome class, which network-manager doesn't... | 08:09 |
| Kamion | mdz: thanks | 08:14 |
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| Kamion | ok, I'm off to iwj's for the evening; please do (get a Canonical employee to) phone me on my mobile if there's a point-release-related emergency - I'll obviously be able to get to a computer easily | 08:30 |
| Nafallo | Kamion: have fun :-) | 08:31 |
| Nafallo | Kamion: you deserve it :-D | 08:32 |
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| Nafallo | anyone willing to sponsor a trivial change to network-manager? :-) | 08:59 |
| Nafallo | fixes malone #55334 | 08:59 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 55334 in network-manager "nm-applet doesn't start" [Medium,Fix committed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/55334 | 08:59 |
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| bluefoxicy | you know | 10:32 |
| bluefoxicy | suddenly I don't have DMA on my drive, and I can't turn it on. | 10:32 |
| Kaleo | Hello bluefoxicy | 10:40 |
| Kaleo | bugs should be reported on Malone https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs | 10:41 |
| Kaleo | and #ubuntu-bugs can help as well | 10:41 |
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| bluefoxicy | mdz: does anyone use Ctrl+Alt+Backspace? | 11:04 |
| bluefoxicy | er. Why the heck did I point that at mdz | 11:04 |
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| Nafallo | pitti: ping | 11:14 |
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