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| Sp4rKy | symlink for library must be added by the -dev package ? | 12:30 |
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| LaserJock | Sp4rKy: have you had a look at http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/column/libpkg-guide/libpkg-guide.html ? | 12:40 |
| Sp4rKy | LaserJock, i'd lost the link :) | 12:41 |
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| TheMuso | c | 02:06 |
| bddebian | d | 02:07 |
| TheMuso | heh | 02:07 |
| TheMuso | Damn kvm sometimes stuffs up when switching machines. | 02:08 |
| bddebian | :-) | 02:08 |
| crimsun | that would explain why your client seems to spit out random chars | 02:08 |
| TheMuso | Yup. | 02:11 |
| bddebian | crimsun: So what's my excuse? :) | 02:13 |
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| TheMuso | bddebian: You have no excuse. :) | 02:15 |
| bddebian | I know :-( | 02:15 |
| TheMuso | But I haven't seen anything unusual from you in here anyway. | 02:16 |
| TheMuso | Is the transcript from the bug school session up anywhere yet? | 02:18 |
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| bddebian | Damnit, where is XML defined in statdataml | 02:20 |
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| Sp4rKy | when can i have my @ubuntu.com email adress ? | 02:28 |
| zul | when you are a member i think | 02:29 |
| TheMuso | Yeah thats right. | 02:29 |
| Sp4rKy | zul, no , later | 02:30 |
| Sp4rKy | i'm member since a few weeks | 02:30 |
| Sp4rKy | but i haven't got yet this adress | 02:30 |
| zul | then it should be your launcpadid@ubuntu.com | 02:30 |
| Sp4rKy | i'll try | 02:31 |
| Sp4rKy | and so where can i check my mail ? | 02:32 |
| zul | it gets forwarded to your email that you have in launchpad | 02:32 |
| Sp4rKy | ok | 02:33 |
| Sp4rKy | trying .... | 02:34 |
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| Sp4rKy | doesn't seem work | 02:40 |
| TheMuso | Sp4rKy: Are you a member of the ubuntu members team yet? | 02:42 |
| Sp4rKy | yes | 02:43 |
| Sp4rKy | since a few weeks | 02:43 |
| Sp4rKy | https://launchpad.net/people/maxenced | 02:43 |
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| crimsun | are you sure your test message didn't end up in gmail's spam folder or whatnot? | 02:44 |
| Sp4rKy | yes | 02:46 |
| crimsun | then ask in #launchpad | 02:46 |
| crimsun | I certainly wouldn't expect anything since it's the weekend | 02:46 |
| Sp4rKy | k | 02:47 |
| Sp4rKy | thx | 02:47 |
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| !christel:*! : Hi All! Gentoo's Bugday project is celebrating its third anniversary today with a veritable extravaganza of bug-squashing and competitions. Drop by #gentoo-bugs to join in the bug fixing, and to be in with a chance of winning a living penguin of your very own! | 02:56 | |
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| Hobbsee | morning all | 04:07 |
| bddebian | Heya Hobbsee | 04:07 |
| Hobbsee | bddebian: :) | 04:07 |
| ajmitch | 'morning' Hobbsee | 04:07 |
| Hobbsee | hehe @ bug 55177 | 04:08 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 55177 in tecnoballz "Ships no .desktop" [Untriaged,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/55177 | 04:08 |
| Hobbsee | hi ajmitch :) | 04:08 |
| TheMuso | Hey ajmitch. | 04:08 |
| zul | hey Hobbsee | 04:08 |
| Hobbsee | hi zul | 04:08 |
| ajmitch | hello TheMuso | 04:09 |
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| nixternal | Hobbsee: what merge do i have? | 04:42 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: ah, kflickr | 04:42 |
| nixternal | oh ya..duh ;) | 04:43 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: its' marked as manual, so....it should be fun | 04:43 |
| nixternal | lovely | 04:43 |
| TheMuso | Hobbsee: Did you get Pitti's script? | 04:44 |
| Hobbsee | TheMuso: i did. didnt work for the one i was trying though | 04:44 |
| TheMuso | Right. | 04:44 |
| TheMuso | Fujitsu: Have you started/done carpaltunnel | 04:56 |
| Fujitsu | TheMuso, it's actually wrong. | 04:57 |
| Fujitsu | It's the latest version. | 04:57 |
| TheMuso | Oh ok. | 04:57 |
| Fujitsu | The last upload was actually a sync, but it needed a higher version number, because it went from native->non-native in Debian, stuffing versioning for a while. | 04:58 |
| TheMuso | Right. | 04:59 |
| Fujitsu | Woops. | 05:01 |
| === Fujitsu kicks self. | ||
| Fujitsu | I just uploaded a binary package to REVU >_< | 05:01 |
| ajmitch | bad | 05:02 |
| ajmitch | convertall? | 05:02 |
| Fujitsu | Yes. | 05:02 |
| Kyral | ...Fujitsu... | 05:02 |
| Fujitsu | Couldn't it, you know... automatically reject them, rather than leaving them there to prevent further uploads? | 05:02 |
| Hobbsee | hi Kyral | 05:02 |
| Fujitsu | Kyral: ? | 05:02 |
| ajmitch | Fujitsu: cleared it | 05:02 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: that would be too smart. | 05:02 |
| Fujitsu | Thanks ajmitch :) | 05:03 |
| ajmitch | Fujitsu: that requires writing a script to check for those .changes files & then deleting the files it refers to | 05:03 |
| ajmitch | noone has gone to that effort yet | 05:03 |
| Kyral | Fujitsu: ...you have the email address "fujitsu@ubuntu.com.au" yes? | 05:03 |
| Fujitsu | Kyral, as well as william.grant@ubuntu.com.au, yes. | 05:03 |
| Kyral | Fujitsu: you are aware that in order to sign someone's GPG Key you need to meet them in person right? | 05:04 |
| Hobbsee | uh oh...what's he done... | 05:05 |
| Kyral | http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=Christopher+Peterman&op=vindex&fingerprint=on | 05:05 |
| Kyral | He signed my key without meeting me | 05:05 |
| crimsun | it's not a strict requirement, but it's accepted as good practice. | 05:05 |
| Hobbsee | Kyral: ouch | 05:05 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: it probably should be though | 05:05 |
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| Kyral | ...Fujitsu...just don't do it again | 05:08 |
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| LaserJock | maybe we should have a "sign Kyral's gpg key" Day ;-) | 05:10 |
| Hobbsee | hah | 05:10 |
| === ajmitch will refrain from such activities | ||
| Kyral | I actually agree with ajmitch on this one | 05:12 |
| TheMuso | heh love the kubuntu wallpaper. | 05:12 |
| Hobbsee | TheMuso: what is it? | 05:12 |
| ajmitch | I've got enough other keys to sign :) | 05:12 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: heh. get to it. | 05:13 |
| TheMuso | WHat? You haven't seen it? | 05:13 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: have you signed mine? | 05:13 |
| Hobbsee | TheMuso: i'm using a different wallpaper, and i havent touched that source in a while | 05:13 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: not sure, i might have | 05:13 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: dont you remember such things? | 05:13 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: if you have, it's not on the keyserver | 05:13 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: ahh...i likely didnt then | 05:13 |
| TheMuso | There is text written diagnolly on it. | 05:13 |
| ajmitch | it's up to you to sign it & get it to me - you've seen my fingerprint, ID, etc | 05:13 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: true | 05:14 |
| TheMuso | Edgy Eft (Early) Development Version | 05:14 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: sent your key up to the keyserver, after signing it | 05:16 |
| Hobbsee | or cant i send up yours? | 05:16 |
| Fujitsu | Kyral, did I do it>? | 05:18 |
| Fujitsu | It must have been ages ago. | 05:18 |
| Kyral | ... | 05:18 |
| Fujitsu | Before I knew what I was doing. | 05:18 |
| Kyral | just don't do it again | 05:18 |
| Fujitsu | I don't plan to. | 05:18 |
| Fujitsu | :( | 05:18 |
| Fujitsu | I really don't know why I would have signed it... Hm. I don't even have your key on my keyring, so it must have been not after November last year. | 05:23 |
| Fujitsu | I shan't do silly things like that again. | 05:23 |
| LaserJock | odd, my desktop froze mid-boot | 05:24 |
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| crimsun | when in the boot sequence? | 05:24 |
| LaserJock | "Loading hardware drivers" | 05:25 |
| LaserJock | I rebooted and it's fine | 05:25 |
| Fujitsu | Hm. | 05:25 |
| Fujitsu | That's odd. | 05:25 |
| Fujitsu | Running Edgy? | 05:25 |
| LaserJock | nope | 05:25 |
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| ajmitch | Hobbsee: the usual practice is to use a script for signing, which emails the email for each uid of that person's key | 05:31 |
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| Fujitsu | And now I must be going | 05:34 |
| TheMuso | ajmitch: Where does one get such a script? | 05:37 |
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| ajmitch | TheMuso: in the archive, such as signing-party | 05:40 |
| TheMuso | Ok. | 05:40 |
| ajmitch | the one you'd want there would be caff | 05:40 |
| TheMuso | Thanks. | 05:40 |
| ajmitch | or I use a script by keybuk | 05:40 |
| TheMuso | heh right | 05:41 |
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| crimsun | nice, I hadn't noticed that the cdbs docs had been updated for the new Python Policy | 05:48 |
| crimsun | now people really don't have an excuse for using checkinstall | 05:48 |
| ajmitch | people always find excuses | 05:52 |
| nexu | "its easy" | 05:53 |
| nexu | "i can use it to make rpm too!" | 05:53 |
| nexu | "i dont want to learn new stuff .. why would i have to if i'm only to go compile a new program" | 05:54 |
| bddebian | Anyone know what is supposed to provide gtk.gtkgl ? | 05:55 |
| ajmitch | libgtkgl2.0-dev? | 05:56 |
| ajmitch | or what language are you talking about? | 05:56 |
| bddebian | Python | 05:56 |
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| ajmitch | it'll be around somewhere, I guess :) | 05:57 |
| bddebian | I can't find it with apt-file or on packages.ubuntu.com | 05:57 |
| ajmitch | probably because it was removed from python-gtk2 | 05:58 |
| bddebian | Yeah? | 05:58 |
| ajmitch | yes | 05:59 |
| bddebian | How do you know that? | 05:59 |
| ajmitch | because I looked at the changelog? | 06:00 |
| bddebian | Ah | 06:00 |
| nexu | hax | 06:00 |
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| bddebian | Gnight folks | 06:27 |
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| TheMuso | ajmitch: Thanks. So I subscribe ubuntu-archive now? | 07:10 |
| crimsun | which bug? | 07:11 |
| crimsun | if you're referring to 55264, yes. | 07:11 |
| TheMuso | bug #55038 | 07:12 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 55038 in caudium "Sync request: caudium from sid, to fix FTBFS." [Untriaged,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/55038 | 07:12 |
| crimsun | u-a is already subscribed. | 07:13 |
| TheMuso | Just noticed that. | 07:13 |
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| crimsun | who is this ... unique person in -devel? | 07:44 |
| tseng | never seen before | 07:45 |
| tseng | not sure its a "person" | 07:45 |
| tseng | I unfortunately dont have ops | 07:45 |
| tseng | sigh | 07:46 |
| Lathiat | heh | 07:46 |
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| ajmitch | hi | 10:49 |
| Gloubiboulga | hello ajmitch | 10:52 |
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| Hobbsee | hi all | 10:58 |
| Nafallo | Hobbsee: morning :-) | 11:01 |
| Hobbsee | Nafallo: morning :) | 11:01 |
| Hobbsee | at 7pm :P | 11:01 |
| Nafallo | 11am here ;-) | 11:02 |
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| Yagisan | Hobbsee, 7pm IS still morning for me | 11:03 |
| Hobbsee | Yagisan: heh | 11:04 |
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| Fujitsu | How often does REVU update its GPG key list? It's not accepting mine that's been on Launchpad for about 4 hours. | 11:13 |
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| ajmitch | Fujitsu: it happens when you ask a revu admin to do it | 11:20 |
| ajmitch | since approval in the group is a manual process, so is syncing the keyring | 11:21 |
| Fujitsu | Ah. OK. Can you please sync it? | 11:21 |
| ajmitch | doing it now | 11:22 |
| Fujitsu | Thanks! | 11:22 |
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| Fujitsu | Thanks. | 11:25 |
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| TheMuso | Has anybody seen Dana Olson around lately anywhere? | 02:51 |
| Hobbsee | TheMuso: i dont recognise the name, why? | 02:53 |
| TheMuso | Just wondering if anybody has started doing his merges at all. | 02:53 |
| Hobbsee | TheMuso: if they're still there by now, take them. | 02:54 |
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| === TheMuso waits for pbuilder to process all the deps. :p | ||
| TheMuso | Takes a while on my celeron. | 03:15 |
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| Hobbsee | TheMuso: yeah. same here. it's nasty | 03:20 |
| TheMuso | Yeah but I also have my P4, so I can try and do two builds at the same time. | 03:20 |
| === StevenK puts his poor, neglected amd64 in front of Hobbsee and sniffles. | ||
| Hobbsee | hehe | 03:25 |
| Hobbsee | StevenK: i tried using that earlier actually. couldnt figure out how to properly scp. i was using it earlier though | 03:25 |
| StevenK | Hobbsee: scp -P 22000 ..... | 03:25 |
| Hobbsee | ah...so pass that first... | 03:25 |
| StevenK | Hobbsee: If you give me the IP range you're in, I can fix crippled so you don't need the high port. | 03:26 |
| Hobbsee | StevenK: ah right. | 03:26 |
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| TheMuso | Is it worth investing in AMD64 compatible hardware for dev work? | 03:29 |
| bddebian | Heya gang | 03:30 |
| StevenK | TheMuso: If you want one. | 03:31 |
| StevenK | TheMuso: They are nice and fast. :-) | 03:31 |
| TheMuso | I'm sure they are. | 03:31 |
| === TheMuso still has a P4 from late 2002. | ||
| TheMuso | It is still quite fast. | 03:31 |
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| TheMuso | The core2 duos are 64-bit compatible are they not? | 03:33 |
| tseng | yes. | 03:33 |
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| tseng | I am waiting for one in a laptop | 03:34 |
| bddebian | I have been hearing commercials for CompUsa or one of those putrid stores about a Compaq amd64 laptop | 03:37 |
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| Yagisan | TheMuso, I feel an amd64 is useful | 03:59 |
| Yagisan | TheMuso, I prefer the amd ones with an iommu, but if intel now has an iommu I'd consider them too | 04:00 |
| TheMuso | iommu? | 04:00 |
| tseng | i dont think they do | 04:01 |
| Yagisan | TheMuso, Input Output Memory Management Unit | 04:01 |
| TheMuso | Is that supposed to be good or something? | 04:01 |
| Yagisan | TheMuso, so pci deveices can access virtuall address space above 4GB | 04:02 |
| TheMuso | Ok thanks. Thats something I didn't know about. | 04:02 |
| TheMuso | I will have to reconsider. | 04:02 |
| TheMuso | I have always bought intel, but hmmm. | 04:02 |
| Yagisan | eg, nvidia video cards have been known to have problems without one in a 64bit system like Ubuntu | 04:02 |
| tseng | I wouldnt really hinge my purchasing decision on that | 04:02 |
| Yagisan | neither would I | 04:02 |
| tseng | do you need more than 4gb of memory? | 04:03 |
| tseng | it is nice in a 4way opteron with a gigamegawatt of ram | 04:03 |
| Yagisan | no, but my bios sticks the famebuffer above 4GB | 04:03 |
| tseng | where xeon falls behind | 04:03 |
| TheMuso | Probably will only be 2GB at most. | 04:03 |
| Yagisan | TheMuso, get the best bang for your dollar | 04:04 |
| TheMuso | Are AMDs still best bang? | 04:04 |
| tseng | core2 is the best bang where you dont consider the dollar | 04:04 |
| tseng | x2 is drastically price reduced | 04:04 |
| tseng | so a better deal | 04:05 |
| TheMuso | hmmm right. | 04:05 |
| tseng | I intend to buy a core2 laptop | 04:05 |
| bmonty | dual core is great :) | 04:06 |
| bmonty | there are some annoying issues with stuff that doesn | 04:06 |
| bmonty | yet run on amd64 though | 04:06 |
| Yagisan | bmonty, that software needs patches then ;) and he did say dev work | 04:07 |
| tseng | I am betting he means something more like flash | 04:07 |
| bmonty | tseng: flash, java....stuff that makes the web a little sexier | 04:07 |
| TheMuso | Dev work, as in Ubuntu packaging/development. | 04:08 |
| bmonty | it is great for dev work though | 04:08 |
| TheMuso | Thats the only reason why I am considering one. | 04:08 |
| TheMuso | That, and audio work. | 04:08 |
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| Nafallo | bmonty: we DO have java on amd64, no? | 04:22 |
| Nafallo | apt-cache search java found lots of sub-java5-* anyway :-) | 04:22 |
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| Yagisan | bmonty, java works - otherwise I'd never get my uni work done | 04:25 |
| bmonty | Nafallo, Yagisan: Java, yes...plugin for firefox, no | 04:26 |
| Yagisan | bmonty, well, I use firefox to access the java site ... | 04:28 |
| Yagisan | I don't ask why, I'm just happy it works for me | 04:28 |
| bmonty | Yagisan: accessing sites is no problem, unless there is a java app in the page | 04:29 |
| bmonty | then you get an error saying that a plugin is missing | 04:30 |
| bmonty | the workaround is to run 32-bit firefox, so it isn't a show stopper | 04:30 |
| imbrandon | or use imb's java | 04:31 |
| imbrandon | ibm* | 04:31 |
| imbrandon | like i do on ppc ;) | 04:31 |
| hub | I just don't use Java, and gcj if needed | 04:39 |
| Nafallo | I don't use it either, but it's there ;-) | 04:44 |
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| Gloubiboulga | TheMuso, hello! | 04:49 |
| Gloubiboulga | TheMuso, looking at bug #55312 | 04:49 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 55312 in seq24 "Please sponsor this merge for uploading." [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/55312 | 04:49 |
| Gloubiboulga | I think that the package could be synced | 04:49 |
| Gloubiboulga | (I haven't tested the build yet though) | 04:50 |
| bmonty | did debian bring in the desktop file? | 04:51 |
| Gloubiboulga | hum | 04:52 |
| Gloubiboulga | actually I just looked at Luke's diff | 04:52 |
| Gloubiboulga | and there's almost nothing in it | 04:53 |
| bmonty | I don't think debian added the file, but I don't see it in the diff | 04:53 |
| Gloubiboulga | yep, you're right | 04:54 |
| TheMuso | I can't explain that one. The debdiff was from the prev ubuntu version to the merged one. | 05:01 |
| bmonty | TheMuso: thats why | 05:01 |
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| TheMuso | ? | 05:02 |
| TheMuso | SHould the debdiffs be from the debian ver to the merged ver? | 05:02 |
| bmonty | yes | 05:02 |
| bmonty | previous ubuntu to the current debian version | 05:02 |
| TheMuso | I'm confused now | 05:03 |
| bmonty | the goal is to take the changes from the ubuntu version of the package and port them in to the latest debian version | 05:03 |
| TheMuso | I know that | 05:03 |
| bmonty | from the changelog that looks like a man page and a desktop file | 05:04 |
| TheMuso | yes thats right | 05:04 |
| bmonty | so the diff should have at a minimum, your new changelog, the desktop file and the man page | 05:05 |
| bmonty | er...no scratch that | 05:05 |
| bmonty | I'm confusing myself :) | 05:06 |
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| bmonty | TheMuso: did you use the grab-merge script to get the package? | 05:07 |
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| TheMuso | bmonty: Yes. | 05:08 |
| TheMuso | Ok I think I know what I am being confused with now. | 05:08 |
| bmonty | there is a seq24_0.8.6-1ubuntu1.patch file from MoM | 05:08 |
| bmonty | your diff should look like that | 05:08 |
| TheMuso | Yep. | 05:08 |
| TheMuso | I am getting confused by the version that is given in the report for dpkg-genchanges | 05:08 |
| TheMuso | I thought that I had to debdiff between that ver and the new ver. | 05:09 |
| bmonty | I would use the buildpackage script, and then diff between the current ubuntu and the merged packages | 05:09 |
| bmonty | might as well build the source package since you need to test the build anyway | 05:10 |
| TheMuso | buildpackage script? | 05:10 |
| bmonty | there should be a merge-buildpackage script that grab-merge generates | 05:11 |
| TheMuso | It only runs dpkg-genchanges. | 05:12 |
| TheMuso | Or has the script been updated? | 05:12 |
| TheMuso | I probably still have the orig version. | 05:12 |
| bmonty | merge-buildpackage just runs dpkg-buildpackage with the right args to grab all of the appropriate changelog entries | 05:12 |
| TheMuso | Ok I had an old script | 05:13 |
| TheMuso | I don't remember hearing anywhere that it was updated. :) | 05:14 |
| TheMuso | Ok lets start this again. | 05:14 |
| TheMuso | Ok so I run merge-buildpackage. Then for a debdiff, which vers do I have to diff? | 05:15 |
| bmonty | 0.8.3-1ubuntu1 to your new package | 05:17 |
| TheMuso | Well thats what I did before. | 05:17 |
| bmonty | I would "apt-get source seq24" and then apply your patch | 05:17 |
| TheMuso | The debdiff, or the patch from MOM? | 05:18 |
| bmonty | your debdiff | 05:18 |
| TheMuso | But if the .desktop file is not showing up in the debdiff, and this is after using merge-buildpackage, what am I missing? | 05:19 |
| TheMuso | ah I get what you mean | 05:19 |
| bmonty | how are you doing the debdiff? | 05:19 |
| TheMuso | debdiff seq24_0.8.3-1ubuntu1.dsc seq24_0.8.6-1ubuntu1.dsc | 05:20 |
| bmonty | ok, I was wrong...the desktop file should not be in there | 05:23 |
| bmonty | have you verified that the merged package builds? | 05:23 |
| TheMuso | Yes. | 05:24 |
| TheMuso | Tested in pbuilder. | 05:24 |
| bmonty | TheMuso: can you make a patch from the latest debian version to your version? | 05:31 |
| TheMuso | Yep hang on | 05:32 |
| TheMuso | http://www.themuso.id.au/ubuntu/seq24-debian-ubuntu.diff | 05:34 |
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| bmonty | TheMuso: looks good, building now | 05:36 |
| TheMuso | Ok. | 05:37 |
| TheMuso | I really must get to bed. | 05:37 |
| bmonty | the MoM merge scripts have made all of the diff stuff easy it has been awhile since I messed with it | 05:37 |
| TheMuso | Thanks bmonty. | 05:37 |
| TheMuso | Yeah they have. | 05:37 |
| TheMuso | To the point where it can sometimes get confusing IMO. | 05:37 |
| bmonty | yup | 05:37 |
| bmonty | please upload that diff you just sent me to the launchpad bug | 05:38 |
| TheMuso | Anyway, must be off to bed. | 05:38 |
| TheMuso | Thanks again | 05:38 |
| TheMuso | ok will do that before heading off | 05:38 |
| bmonty | np, good night | 05:38 |
| TheMuso | Ok thats up | 05:40 |
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| bmonty | TheMuso: thanks, package is uploaded | 05:40 |
| TheMuso | Ok thanks again | 05:40 |
| TheMuso | im outa here | 05:40 |
| bmonty | bye TheMuso | 05:41 |
| bmonty | hi bddebian | 05:42 |
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| bddebian | Hey bmonty | 05:46 |
| bddebian | OK obviously I suck at packaging :-( | 05:47 |
| bmonty | why do you say that? | 05:47 |
| bddebian | I'm trying to build dangerdeep and the dang files aren't ending up in the deb | 05:47 |
| bmonty | I always hate that | 05:48 |
| bddebian | Well the damn thing uses scons too so it's a little ugly :-) | 05:49 |
| dsas | could someone give me a quick explanation about what a debian/control.in is? Should I change that or debian/control ? | 05:49 |
| bmonty | dsas: the control.in is used to generate the control file, you should probably change the control.in file | 05:50 |
| dsas | bmonty: Ok, thanks. | 05:51 |
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| siretart | hi kelmo | 06:10 |
| kelmo | hi siretart and all | 06:10 |
| siretart | kelmo: I finally found some time to look at svn trunk. impressive work on documentation. I love it | 06:10 |
| kelmo | siretart: cool, i hoped you would | 06:10 |
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| kelmo | siretart: did you see th guessnet roaming logic stuff? | 06:11 |
| siretart | kelmo: I've seen felix remarks | 06:12 |
| siretart | kelmo: I never really used guessnet. I looked at the documentation though | 06:12 |
| siretart | kelmo: the way presented in the emails look useful, though | 06:13 |
| kelmo | siretart: i implemented it today | 06:13 |
| kelmo | siretart: based on some sample code from Felix | 06:13 |
| siretart | cool! :) | 06:13 |
| kelmo | siretart: we can now "plugin" the logic behing guessing the network | 06:14 |
| siretart | eheh :) | 06:14 |
| kelmo | siretart: are you happy about the removal of the wpa-action-script hacks | 06:14 |
| bddebian | siretart: Do you know if I can upload to REVU? I haven't gone through the new process yet | 06:14 |
| kelmo | siretart: keeping in mind, the basis for lauching a action daemon is still firmly there | 06:15 |
| siretart | bddebian: you should be able | 06:15 |
| kelmo | s/a/sn/ | 06:15 |
| kelmo | an* | 06:15 |
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| bddebian | siretart: OK, thx. I'm trying to package dangerdeep :-) | 06:15 |
| siretart | kelmo: hm. up to now, there are no other packages actually making use of this. | 06:16 |
| siretart | kelmo: I'm perfectly happy to remove any documentation for it. | 06:16 |
| siretart | kelmo: if it helps cleaning up the code a bit, sure, why not as well | 06:16 |
| Lure | if a package suggests/recomends (but not depends) on something from multiverse, can it still be in universe? | 06:17 |
| bddebian | Lure: I don't believe so but don't quote me | 06:18 |
| kelmo | siretart: basically, i want it gone before it becomes widely used, wpa-roam is definately maturing into something more than just an action script, so its to be preferred imo | 06:18 |
| siretart | Lure: could you please ask that in either #ubuntu-devel or on ubuntu-devel@l.u.c? | 06:18 |
| siretart | kelmo: I rather consider that as 'hook' for work from others | 06:19 |
| Lure | siretart, bddebian: thanks, will check on -devel | 06:19 |
| Lure | just for the record: | 06:24 |
| Lure | [18:21] <mdz> Lure: suggests, yes, recommends, not really | 06:24 |
| Lure | [ | 06:24 |
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| kelmo | siretart: i guess what we have to decide is, what modes of use should we support, what modes are sanely supportable | 06:27 |
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| phanatic | afternoon | 06:28 |
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| plhardy | raphink: i stepped in ubuntu, where can i help ? | 06:36 |
| raphink | plhardy: what can you do? | 06:37 |
| plhardy | raphink: come on linux azur lug channel you might remember what i can do... | 06:37 |
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| bddebian | OK< dumb question. In something like dir=#/foo/bar what is # ? | 06:50 |
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| welshbyte | a typo? :) | 06:52 |
| bddebian | It's generated that way in a shell script | 06:53 |
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| welshbyte | i jest, i jest | 06:53 |
| bddebian | :-) | 06:53 |
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| welshbyte | is it not a comment, so it's essentially dir= | 06:56 |
| welshbyte | oh no, i tried and it isn't | 06:57 |
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| bddebian | I think they are assuming its ./ but I'm not sure | 07:03 |
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| Nafallo | hi! I detected a bug in network-manager (#55334) | 08:12 |
| Nafallo | :-) | 08:12 |
| Nafallo | I just have to add this to rules: | 08:15 |
| Nafallo | binary-install/network-manager-gnome:: | 08:15 |
| Nafallo | dh_iconcache | 08:15 |
| Nafallo | ? | 08:15 |
| siretart | why doesn't cdbs call dh_iconcache? | 08:16 |
| Nafallo | no gnomeclass added | 08:16 |
| Nafallo | only autotools | 08:17 |
| siretart | hm. perhaps it's better to add them? | 08:17 |
| Nafallo | I don't know :-/. I guess Keybuk had a reason not to, since network-manager creates a lot of packages and only one is for gnome? | 08:18 |
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| Nafallo | but the lines I pasted are also a correct approach? I'm rusty add packaging now, especially cdbs :-) | 08:19 |
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| futzilogik | how do I debootstrap an edgy installation? | 08:34 |
| !alindeman:*! Hi all. I'm about to upgrade services to fix some bugs. I'm going to take it down in approximately 5 minutes, and it should be back within 5 more. Sorry for an inconvenience | 08:40 | |
| bmonty | futzilogik: install the edgy version of debootstrap | 08:40 |
| futzilogik | bmonty: where can I find it? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot doesn't list it | 08:41 |
| bmonty | futzilogik: http:/packages.ubuntu.com/debootstrap | 08:41 |
| futzilogik | bmonty: thanks! | 08:41 |
| Nafallo | damn a.u.c is slow :-/ | 08:42 |
| Nafallo | siretart: want to sponsor network-manager for me? :-) | 08:54 |
| bmonty | anyone working on merges right now? | 08:57 |
| Nafallo | nope, but I fixed a bug :-) | 08:58 |
| bmonty | nice | 08:58 |
| Nafallo | now I just need a main-sponsor ;-) | 08:58 |
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| !alindeman:*! Services is back online. Please report problems to alindeman in /msg | 09:11 | |
| !alindeman:*! This update should solve the bug relating to cloaks getting reset/changed with multiple, linked nicks | 09:12 | |
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| !alindeman:*! (Thanks BearPerson!) :-) | 09:12 | |
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| bddebian | bmonty: I have a shitload of syncs waiting | 09:31 |
| bmonty | bddebian: are you working on atanks? | 09:42 |
| bddebian | bmonty: Nope, go for it :-) | 09:42 |
| Lure | any REVU admin here? | 09:48 |
| Lure | having problems with my first dput (after failed transfer) | 09:49 |
| bddebian | WTF is the gl/glu packages these days? | 09:49 |
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| jdmpike_ | hey guys, what are the chances of getting the theora-mmx package moved into the repos? | 09:52 |
| jdmpike_ | by the powers of grayskull | 10:03 |
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| bddebian | jdmpike_: Is it on REVU? | 10:10 |
| jdmpike_ | don't kow | 10:10 |
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| jdmpike_ | bddebian, I guess the package is actually called libtheora-1.0alpha7 | 10:32 |
| jdmpike_ | bddebian, what is REVU | 10:34 |
| lionelp | jdmpike_: there is a libtheora on Ubuntu (coming from Debian) | 10:36 |
| lionelp | alpha5 in Dapper | 10:36 |
| lionelp | alpha7 in Edgy | 10:36 |
| jdmpike_ | lionhelp, when will alpha6 or 7 make it into Dapper? | 10:37 |
| jdmpike_ | lionhelp, or can I install that package from the Edgy repo? | 10:37 |
| Bazzi | the backports team is no longer active as far as I know | 10:37 |
| Bazzi | so there likely wont be an update | 10:37 |
| jdmpike_ | DRATS | 10:38 |
| jdmpike_ | what are my options for running it then | 10:38 |
| jdmpike_ | building from source | 10:38 |
| Bazzi | you could always try using the edgy version yes | 10:38 |
| jdmpike_ | then messing my machine up and not being able to fix it? | 10:38 |
| jdmpike_ | Bazzi, how do I get the edgy version of the package? | 10:38 |
| Bazzi | but that's the messing with machine thing you just mentioned | 10:39 |
| jdmpike_ | I would rather install it with a package manager than build it from source | 10:39 |
| Bazzi | you could pull it from a mirror and dpkg -i it | 10:39 |
| jdmpike_ | Question about that, how do you remove something that you install with dpkg -i ? | 10:39 |
| Nafallo | s/dpkg\ -i/gdebi/ | 10:40 |
| Bazzi | gdebi? is that a gnome front end? | 10:40 |
| Nafallo | you remove it as usual. | 10:40 |
| jdmpike_ | really | 10:40 |
| Nafallo | gdebi-gtk is the gnome-frontend. gdebi is text-based :-). | 10:40 |
| Nafallo | it uses apt rather than dpkg directly | 10:41 |
| Bazzi | ah, ok | 10:41 |
| Nafallo | will solve depends and such things :-) | 10:41 |
| jdmpike_ | I installed a wine package with dpkg -i, then I tried to uninstall it dpkg -r --purge package name | 10:41 |
| jdmpike_ | it couldn't find it | 10:42 |
| jdmpike_ | ok, can someone hold a newbs hand on pulling down the libtheora-1.0alpha7 deb down from the edgy repos and installing it on my machine with a tool that can remove it? | 10:42 |
| Nafallo | apt-get remove --purge is better :-) | 10:43 |
| jdmpike_ | I don't know how to browse the edgy repos | 10:43 |
| Nafallo | https://launchpad.net | 10:43 |
| Bazzi | by the way, Nafallo have you knowledge about the translation system? when will translations for edgy be possible? | 10:44 |
| Nafallo | Bazzi: no idea, that's a pitti or carlos question :-) | 10:45 |
| Nafallo | more likely carlos | 10:45 |
| Bazzi | hmmm | 10:46 |
| Bazzi | launchpad is still confusing for me | 10:46 |
| Nafallo | :-) | 10:47 |
| jdmpike_ | ok, really quick - I just downloaded the .deb for libtheora for edgy, thanks Nafallo for the link to launchpad! Now how do I install it using an apt-based CLI? | 10:49 |
| jdmpike_ | gdebi -i package name? | 10:49 |
| Nafallo | gdebi package-name :-) | 10:49 |
| jdmpike_ | that will install it so it could be removed with synaptic? | 10:50 |
| Nafallo | yes | 10:50 |
| Nafallo | and gdebi-gtk for gui | 10:50 |
| jdmpike_ | or something like it | 10:50 |
| jdmpike_ | thanks for the newb support, I know that is not your job in this channel | 10:50 |
| jdmpike_ | thanks! | 10:51 |
| Nafallo | no problem :-) | 10:51 |
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| jdmpike_ | how stable is libc6 and libogg0 for edgy? | 10:54 |
| jdmpike_ | oh man, now I am nervous | 10:57 |
| jdmpike_ | upgrading libc6 | 10:57 |
| jdmpike_ | this has to be a big deal, it is a huge library that is in charge of math and many other things! | 10:57 |
| jdmpike_ | gulp! | 10:57 |
| crimsun | edgy base is stable IME. It's only when you start tossing in stuff like the X Window System that things become interesting. | 10:59 |
| jdmpike_ | ok, that makes me feel better | 10:59 |
| jdmpike_ | what does "Failed to satisfy all dependencies (broken cache)" mean? | 10:59 |
| jdmpike_ | crap, now I screwed up my ia32 install in Dapper | 11:04 |
| crimsun | then you probably just want to dist-upgrade wholescale to edgy. | 11:13 |
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| jdmpike_ | ok, so I should just dist upgrade to edgy? | 11:17 |
| jdmpike_ | will do | 11:17 |
| jdmpike_ | gulp | 11:17 |
| jdmpike_ | heh, I am trying to talk to you all in the right channels | 11:17 |
| jdmpike_ | but it is the same people, hilarious! | 11:17 |
| bddebian | What do I do about linda/lintian warnings about files being considered extra licenses? | 11:18 |
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| bddebian | *sigh* | 11:37 |
| crimsun | what're the precise warnings? | 11:38 |
| bddebian | W: dangerdeep; File /usr/share/games/LICENSE_README is considered to be an extra license file. | 11:40 |
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| crimsun | bddebian: upon inspecting /usr/share/games/LICENSE_README (!, notably the path), what is it? | 11:49 |
| bddebian | crimsun: Talks about artwork license | 11:54 |
| crimsun | that probably needs to be integrated into debian/copyright , then. Seems fine to me. | 11:57 |
| bddebian | Just put something in copyright showing where to look at those files or paste in the whole contents? | 11:59 |
| crimsun | the latter. | 11:59 |
| bddebian | Then remove those files from the deb or just leave the warnings? | 12:03 |
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| bddebian | Heya lfittl | 12:03 |
| crimsun | Is that specific file required according to its contents? | 12:03 |
| lfittl | hi bddebian :) | 12:03 |
| crimsun | if you have its contents in debian/copyright, I wouldn't install it. | 12:03 |
| crimsun | (unless of course it's required by the semantics, in which case it looks like a valid lintian-override) | 12:04 |
| bddebian | lfittl: Had a chance to look at attal yet? | 12:05 |
| lfittl | bddebian: no sry, had some problems with my net connection the last days, will look at it tomorrow | 12:06 |
| bddebian | lfittl: No worries, just curious | 12:06 |
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