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[02:08] :-) [02:08] that would explain why your client seems to spit out random chars [02:11] Yup. [02:13] crimsun: So what's my excuse? :) === azeem [n=mbanck@host45.natpool.mwn.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kirds [n=chatzill@ip-93-4.dsl.newel.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:15] bddebian: You have no excuse. :) [02:15] I know :-( [02:16] But I haven't seen anything unusual from you in here anyway. [02:18] Is the transcript from the bug school session up anywhere yet? === pschulz01 [n=paul@203.30.88.75] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:20] Damnit, where is XML defined in statdataml === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:28] when can i have my @ubuntu.com email adress ? [02:29] when you are a member i think [02:29] Yeah thats right. [02:30] zul, no , later [02:30] i'm member since a few weeks [02:30] but i haven't got yet this adress [02:30] then it should be your launcpadid@ubuntu.com [02:31] i'll try [02:32] and so where can i check my mail ? [02:32] it gets forwarded to your email that you have in launchpad [02:33] ok [02:34] trying .... === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-64-26-167-82.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:40] doesn't seem work [02:42] Sp4rKy: Are you a member of the ubuntu members team yet? [02:43] yes [02:43] since a few weeks [02:43] https://launchpad.net/people/maxenced === micahcowan [n=micahcow@69.36.252.2] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:44] are you sure your test message didn't end up in gmail's spam folder or whatnot? [02:46] yes [02:46] then ask in #launchpad [02:46] I certainly wouldn't expect anything since it's the weekend [02:47] k [02:47] thx === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:56] !christel:*! : Hi All! Gentoo's Bugday project is celebrating its third anniversary today with a veritable extravaganza of bug-squashing and competitions. Drop by #gentoo-bugs to join in the bug fixing, and to be in with a chance of winning a living penguin of your very own! === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away === shenki [n=shenki@ppp167-129.lns3.adl4.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Cornellius [n=alain@142-217-38-112.telebecinternet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RichJ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RichJ is now known as nixternal === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:07] morning all [04:07] Heya Hobbsee [04:07] bddebian: :) [04:07] 'morning' Hobbsee [04:08] hehe @ bug 55177 [04:08] Malone bug 55177 in tecnoballz "Ships no .desktop" [Untriaged,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/55177 [04:08] hi ajmitch :) [04:08] Hey ajmitch. [04:08] hey Hobbsee [04:08] hi zul [04:09] hello TheMuso === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kaloz [i=kaloz@openwrt.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee_ is now known as Hobbsee [04:42] Hobbsee: what merge do i have? [04:42] nixternal: ah, kflickr [04:43] oh ya..duh ;) [04:43] nixternal: its' marked as manual, so....it should be fun [04:43] lovely [04:44] Hobbsee: Did you get Pitti's script? [04:44] TheMuso: i did. didnt work for the one i was trying though [04:44] Right. [04:56] Fujitsu: Have you started/done carpaltunnel [04:57] TheMuso, it's actually wrong. [04:57] It's the latest version. [04:57] Oh ok. [04:58] The last upload was actually a sync, but it needed a higher version number, because it went from native->non-native in Debian, stuffing versioning for a while. [04:59] Right. [05:01] Woops. === Fujitsu kicks self. [05:01] I just uploaded a binary package to REVU >_< [05:02] bad [05:02] convertall? [05:02] Yes. [05:02] ...Fujitsu... [05:02] Couldn't it, you know... automatically reject them, rather than leaving them there to prevent further uploads? [05:02] hi Kyral [05:02] Kyral: ? [05:02] Fujitsu: cleared it [05:02] Fujitsu: that would be too smart. [05:03] Thanks ajmitch :) [05:03] Fujitsu: that requires writing a script to check for those .changes files & then deleting the files it refers to [05:03] noone has gone to that effort yet [05:03] Fujitsu: ...you have the email address "fujitsu@ubuntu.com.au" yes? [05:03] Kyral, as well as william.grant@ubuntu.com.au, yes. [05:04] Fujitsu: you are aware that in order to sign someone's GPG Key you need to meet them in person right? [05:05] uh oh...what's he done... [05:05] http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=Christopher+Peterman&op=vindex&fingerprint=on [05:05] He signed my key without meeting me [05:05] it's not a strict requirement, but it's accepted as good practice. [05:05] Kyral: ouch [05:05] crimsun: it probably should be though === elkbuntu [n=melissa@203-206-255-153.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:08] ...Fujitsu...just don't do it again === Laser_away is now known as LaserJock [05:10] maybe we should have a "sign Kyral's gpg key" Day ;-) [05:10] hah === ajmitch will refrain from such activities [05:12] I actually agree with ajmitch on this one [05:12] heh love the kubuntu wallpaper. [05:12] TheMuso: what is it? [05:12] I've got enough other keys to sign :) [05:13] ajmitch: heh. get to it. [05:13] WHat? You haven't seen it? [05:13] Hobbsee: have you signed mine? [05:13] TheMuso: i'm using a different wallpaper, and i havent touched that source in a while [05:13] ajmitch: not sure, i might have [05:13] ajmitch: dont you remember such things? [05:13] Hobbsee: if you have, it's not on the keyserver [05:13] ajmitch: ahh...i likely didnt then [05:13] There is text written diagnolly on it. [05:13] it's up to you to sign it & get it to me - you've seen my fingerprint, ID, etc [05:14] ajmitch: true [05:14] Edgy Eft (Early) Development Version [05:16] ajmitch: sent your key up to the keyserver, after signing it [05:16] or cant i send up yours? [05:18] Kyral, did I do it>? [05:18] It must have been ages ago. [05:18] ... [05:18] Before I knew what I was doing. [05:18] just don't do it again [05:18] I don't plan to. [05:18] :( [05:23] I really don't know why I would have signed it... Hm. I don't even have your key on my keyring, so it must have been not after November last year. [05:23] I shan't do silly things like that again. [05:24] odd, my desktop froze mid-boot === freeflying [n=freeflyi@218.17.65.175] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:24] when in the boot sequence? [05:25] "Loading hardware drivers" [05:25] I rebooted and it's fine [05:25] Hm. [05:25] That's odd. [05:25] Running Edgy? [05:25] nope === freeflying [n=freeflyi@218.17.65.175] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:31] Hobbsee: the usual practice is to use a script for signing, which emails the email for each uid of that person's key === Fujitsu is thusly embarrassed, and apologises profusely to Kyral. [05:34] And now I must be going [05:37] ajmitch: Where does one get such a script? === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:40] TheMuso: in the archive, such as signing-party [05:40] Ok. [05:40] the one you'd want there would be caff [05:40] Thanks. [05:40] or I use a script by keybuk [05:41] heh right === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@71.57.11.218] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === b_52Free_ [n=b_52Free@adsl196-17-37-217-196.adsl196-10.iam.net.ma] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:48] nice, I hadn't noticed that the cdbs docs had been updated for the new Python Policy [05:48] now people really don't have an excuse for using checkinstall [05:52] people always find excuses [05:53] "its easy" [05:53] "i can use it to make rpm too!" [05:54] "i dont want to learn new stuff .. why would i have to if i'm only to go compile a new program" [05:55] Anyone know what is supposed to provide gtk.gtkgl ? [05:56] libgtkgl2.0-dev? [05:56] or what language are you talking about? [05:56] Python === ajmitch shrugs [05:57] it'll be around somewhere, I guess :) [05:57] I can't find it with apt-file or on packages.ubuntu.com [05:58] probably because it was removed from python-gtk2 [05:58] Yeah? [05:59] yes [05:59] How do you know that? [06:00] because I looked at the changelog? [06:00] Ah [06:00] hax === redguy [n=mati@acp124.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Bazzi_ [n=Bastian@p50803C08.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RichJ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:27] Gnight folks === carthik [n=carthik@pdpc/supporter/student/carthik] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@218.17.65.175] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RichJ is now known as nixternal_ === imbrando1 [n=brandon@CPE-72-135-8-5.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-30.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pschulz01 [n=paul@202.174.42.5] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:10] ajmitch: Thanks. So I subscribe ubuntu-archive now? [07:11] which bug? [07:11] if you're referring to 55264, yes. [07:12] bug #55038 [07:12] Malone bug 55038 in caudium "Sync request: caudium from sid, to fix FTBFS." [Untriaged,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/55038 [07:13] u-a is already subscribed. [07:13] Just noticed that. === imbrando1 is now known as imbrandon === _maydayjay_ [n=maydayja@maydayjay.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:44] who is this ... unique person in -devel? [07:45] never seen before [07:45] not sure its a "person" [07:45] I unfortunately dont have ops [07:46] sigh [07:46] heh === cypher1 [n=cypher1@59.92.166.222] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@218.17.65.175] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zdra [n=zdra@99.248-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@218.17.65.175] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan_ [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu === carthik is now known as carthik_zzz === Yagisan_ is now known as Yagisan === Kirds [n=chatzill@ip-93-4.dsl.newel.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nathandh [n=nathandh@dD5779A06.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === redguy [n=mati@acp124.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@c58-107-168-5.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrando1 [n=brandon@CPE-72-135-8-5.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrando1 is now known as imbrandon [10:49] hi [10:52] hello ajmitch === micahcowan [n=micah@adsl-69-236-75-39.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:58] hi all [11:01] Hobbsee: morning :-) [11:01] Nafallo: morning :) [11:01] at 7pm :P [11:02] 11am here ;-) === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-101-051.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:03] Hobbsee, 7pm IS still morning for me [11:04] Yagisan: heh === iceman [n=iceman@54.231-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:13] How often does REVU update its GPG key list? It's not accepting mine that's been on Launchpad for about 4 hours. === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:20] Fujitsu: it happens when you ask a revu admin to do it [11:21] since approval in the group is a manual process, so is syncing the keyring [11:21] Ah. OK. Can you please sync it? [11:22] doing it now [11:22] Thanks! === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-250-59-127.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:25] Thanks. === nexu [n=nexu@2001:888:10:284:0:0:1ce:c01d] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ubuntu-es [n=ubuntu@200.106.9.80] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mc44 [n=rddpr@ip-81-170-10-121.cust.homechoice.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === derjohn [n=derjohn@dslb-084-058-226-104.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [n=cypher1@59.92.166.222] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lbm [n=lbm@82.192.173.92] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Loevborg [n=loevborg@d9-3.dip.axsp.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === iceman [n=iceman@54.231-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Bye!"] === nexu [n=nexu@2001:888:10:284:0:0:1ce:c01d] has joined #ubuntu-motu === elkbuntu [n=melissa@203-206-255-153.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [n=cypher1@59.92.223.158] has joined #ubuntu-motu === krogh [n=jesper@shrek.krogh.cc] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nexu [n=nexu@2001:888:10:284:0:0:1ce:c01d] has joined #ubuntu-motu === micahcowan [n=micah@adsl-69-236-75-39.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=alessand@2001:1418:1ce:0:215:ff:fe19:4646] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fredix [n=fredix@86.67.45.164] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lloydinho [n=andreas@rosinante.egmont-kol.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar_ [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === redguy [n=mati@acp124.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [n=cypher1@59.92.223.158] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dsas [n=dean@host86-129-22-78.range86-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:51] Has anybody seen Dana Olson around lately anywhere? [02:53] TheMuso: i dont recognise the name, why? [02:53] Just wondering if anybody has started doing his merges at all. [02:54] TheMuso: if they're still there by now, take them. === cypher1 [n=cypher1@59.92.223.158] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mc44 [n=rddpr@ip-81-170-10-121.cust.homechoice.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TheMuso waits for pbuilder to process all the deps. :p [03:15] Takes a while on my celeron. === Bazzi [n=Bastian@p50803C08.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:20] TheMuso: yeah. same here. it's nasty [03:20] Yeah but I also have my P4, so I can try and do two builds at the same time. === StevenK puts his poor, neglected amd64 in front of Hobbsee and sniffles. [03:25] hehe [03:25] StevenK: i tried using that earlier actually. couldnt figure out how to properly scp. i was using it earlier though [03:25] Hobbsee: scp -P 22000 ..... [03:25] ah...so pass that first... [03:26] Hobbsee: If you give me the IP range you're in, I can fix crippled so you don't need the high port. [03:26] StevenK: ah right. === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:29] Is it worth investing in AMD64 compatible hardware for dev work? [03:30] Heya gang [03:31] TheMuso: If you want one. [03:31] TheMuso: They are nice and fast. :-) [03:31] I'm sure they are. === TheMuso still has a P4 from late 2002. [03:31] It is still quite fast. === StevenK hugs his 3Ghz amd64 [03:33] The core2 duos are 64-bit compatible are they not? [03:33] yes. === TheMuso is thinking of one of those. [03:34] I am waiting for one in a laptop [03:37] I have been hearing commercials for CompUsa or one of those putrid stores about a Compaq amd64 laptop === plhardy [n=philippe@d213-103-56-47.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mc44 [n=rddpr@ip-81-170-10-121.cust.homechoice.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bmonty [n=bmontgom@ubuntu/member/bmonty] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:59] TheMuso, I feel an amd64 is useful [04:00] TheMuso, I prefer the amd ones with an iommu, but if intel now has an iommu I'd consider them too [04:00] iommu? [04:01] i dont think they do [04:01] TheMuso, Input Output Memory Management Unit [04:01] Is that supposed to be good or something? [04:02] TheMuso, so pci deveices can access virtuall address space above 4GB [04:02] Ok thanks. Thats something I didn't know about. [04:02] I will have to reconsider. [04:02] I have always bought intel, but hmmm. [04:02] eg, nvidia video cards have been known to have problems without one in a 64bit system like Ubuntu [04:02] I wouldnt really hinge my purchasing decision on that [04:02] neither would I [04:03] do you need more than 4gb of memory? [04:03] it is nice in a 4way opteron with a gigamegawatt of ram [04:03] no, but my bios sticks the famebuffer above 4GB [04:03] where xeon falls behind [04:03] Probably will only be 2GB at most. [04:04] TheMuso, get the best bang for your dollar [04:04] Are AMDs still best bang? [04:04] core2 is the best bang where you dont consider the dollar [04:04] x2 is drastically price reduced [04:05] so a better deal [04:05] hmmm right. [04:05] I intend to buy a core2 laptop [04:06] dual core is great :) [04:06] there are some annoying issues with stuff that doesn [04:06] yet run on amd64 though [04:07] bmonty, that software needs patches then ;) and he did say dev work [04:07] I am betting he means something more like flash [04:07] tseng: flash, java....stuff that makes the web a little sexier [04:08] Dev work, as in Ubuntu packaging/development. [04:08] it is great for dev work though [04:08] Thats the only reason why I am considering one. [04:08] That, and audio work. === geser [n=michael@85.25.111.238] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:22] bmonty: we DO have java on amd64, no? [04:22] apt-cache search java found lots of sub-java5-* anyway :-) === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:25] bmonty, java works - otherwise I'd never get my uni work done [04:26] Nafallo, Yagisan: Java, yes...plugin for firefox, no [04:28] bmonty, well, I use firefox to access the java site ... [04:28] I don't ask why, I'm just happy it works for me [04:29] Yagisan: accessing sites is no problem, unless there is a java app in the page [04:30] then you get an error saying that a plugin is missing [04:30] the workaround is to run 32-bit firefox, so it isn't a show stopper [04:31] or use imb's java [04:31] ibm* [04:31] like i do on ppc ;) [04:39] I just don't use Java, and gcj if needed [04:44] I don't use it either, but it's there ;-) === welshbyte [n=welshbyt@cpc3-cwma2-0-0-cust276.swan.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:49] TheMuso, hello! [04:49] TheMuso, looking at bug #55312 [04:49] Malone bug 55312 in seq24 "Please sponsor this merge for uploading." [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/55312 [04:49] I think that the package could be synced [04:50] (I haven't tested the build yet though) [04:51] did debian bring in the desktop file? [04:52] hum [04:52] actually I just looked at Luke's diff [04:53] and there's almost nothing in it [04:53] I don't think debian added the file, but I don't see it in the diff [04:54] yep, you're right [05:01] I can't explain that one. The debdiff was from the prev ubuntu version to the merged one. [05:01] TheMuso: thats why === freeflying [n=freeflyi@218.17.65.175] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:02] ? [05:02] SHould the debdiffs be from the debian ver to the merged ver? [05:02] yes [05:02] previous ubuntu to the current debian version [05:03] I'm confused now [05:03] the goal is to take the changes from the ubuntu version of the package and port them in to the latest debian version [05:03] I know that [05:04] from the changelog that looks like a man page and a desktop file [05:04] yes thats right [05:05] so the diff should have at a minimum, your new changelog, the desktop file and the man page [05:05] er...no scratch that [05:06] I'm confusing myself :) === Zdra [n=zdra@95.217-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:07] TheMuso: did you use the grab-merge script to get the package? === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:08] bmonty: Yes. [05:08] Ok I think I know what I am being confused with now. [05:08] there is a seq24_0.8.6-1ubuntu1.patch file from MoM [05:08] your diff should look like that [05:08] Yep. [05:08] I am getting confused by the version that is given in the report for dpkg-genchanges [05:09] I thought that I had to debdiff between that ver and the new ver. [05:09] I would use the buildpackage script, and then diff between the current ubuntu and the merged packages [05:10] might as well build the source package since you need to test the build anyway [05:10] buildpackage script? [05:11] there should be a merge-buildpackage script that grab-merge generates [05:12] It only runs dpkg-genchanges. [05:12] Or has the script been updated? [05:12] I probably still have the orig version. [05:12] merge-buildpackage just runs dpkg-buildpackage with the right args to grab all of the appropriate changelog entries [05:13] Ok I had an old script [05:14] I don't remember hearing anywhere that it was updated. :) [05:14] Ok lets start this again. [05:15] Ok so I run merge-buildpackage. Then for a debdiff, which vers do I have to diff? [05:17] 0.8.3-1ubuntu1 to your new package [05:17] Well thats what I did before. [05:17] I would "apt-get source seq24" and then apply your patch [05:18] The debdiff, or the patch from MOM? [05:18] your debdiff [05:19] But if the .desktop file is not showing up in the debdiff, and this is after using merge-buildpackage, what am I missing? [05:19] ah I get what you mean [05:19] how are you doing the debdiff? [05:20] debdiff seq24_0.8.3-1ubuntu1.dsc seq24_0.8.6-1ubuntu1.dsc [05:23] ok, I was wrong...the desktop file should not be in there [05:23] have you verified that the merged package builds? [05:24] Yes. [05:24] Tested in pbuilder. [05:31] TheMuso: can you make a patch from the latest debian version to your version? [05:32] Yep hang on [05:34] http://www.themuso.id.au/ubuntu/seq24-debian-ubuntu.diff === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-30.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:36] TheMuso: looks good, building now [05:37] Ok. [05:37] I really must get to bed. [05:37] the MoM merge scripts have made all of the diff stuff easy it has been awhile since I messed with it [05:37] Thanks bmonty. [05:37] Yeah they have. [05:37] To the point where it can sometimes get confusing IMO. [05:37] yup [05:38] please upload that diff you just sent me to the launchpad bug [05:38] Anyway, must be off to bed. [05:38] Thanks again [05:38] ok will do that before heading off [05:38] np, good night [05:40] Ok thats up === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:40] TheMuso: thanks, package is uploaded [05:40] Ok thanks again [05:40] im outa here [05:41] bye TheMuso [05:42] hi bddebian === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:46] Hey bmonty [05:47] OK obviously I suck at packaging :-( [05:47] why do you say that? [05:47] I'm trying to build dangerdeep and the dang files aren't ending up in the deb [05:48] I always hate that [05:49] Well the damn thing uses scons too so it's a little ugly :-) [05:49] could someone give me a quick explanation about what a debian/control.in is? Should I change that or debian/control ? [05:50] dsas: the control.in is used to generate the control file, you should probably change the control.in file [05:51] bmonty: Ok, thanks. === kelmo [n=kelmo@madwifi/support/kelmo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:10] hi kelmo [06:10] hi siretart and all [06:10] kelmo: I finally found some time to look at svn trunk. impressive work on documentation. I love it [06:10] siretart: cool, i hoped you would === freeflying [n=freeflyi@218.17.65.175] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:11] siretart: did you see th guessnet roaming logic stuff? [06:12] kelmo: I've seen felix remarks [06:12] kelmo: I never really used guessnet. I looked at the documentation though [06:13] kelmo: the way presented in the emails look useful, though [06:13] siretart: i implemented it today [06:13] siretart: based on some sample code from Felix [06:13] cool! :) [06:14] siretart: we can now "plugin" the logic behing guessing the network [06:14] eheh :) [06:14] siretart: are you happy about the removal of the wpa-action-script hacks [06:14] siretart: Do you know if I can upload to REVU? I haven't gone through the new process yet [06:15] siretart: keeping in mind, the basis for lauching a action daemon is still firmly there [06:15] bddebian: you should be able [06:15] s/a/sn/ [06:15] an* === geser [n=michael@85.25.111.238] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [06:15] siretart: OK, thx. I'm trying to package dangerdeep :-) [06:16] kelmo: hm. up to now, there are no other packages actually making use of this. [06:16] kelmo: I'm perfectly happy to remove any documentation for it. [06:16] kelmo: if it helps cleaning up the code a bit, sure, why not as well [06:17] if a package suggests/recomends (but not depends) on something from multiverse, can it still be in universe? [06:18] Lure: I don't believe so but don't quote me [06:18] siretart: basically, i want it gone before it becomes widely used, wpa-roam is definately maturing into something more than just an action script, so its to be preferred imo [06:18] Lure: could you please ask that in either #ubuntu-devel or on ubuntu-devel@l.u.c? [06:19] kelmo: I rather consider that as 'hook' for work from others [06:19] siretart, bddebian: thanks, will check on -devel [06:24] just for the record: [06:24] [18:21] Lure: suggests, yes, recommends, not really [06:24] [ === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:27] siretart: i guess what we have to decide is, what modes of use should we support, what modes are sanely supportable === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:28] afternoon === dEn_ [n=den@220.226.50.100] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:36] raphink: i stepped in ubuntu, where can i help ? [06:37] plhardy: what can you do? [06:37] raphink: come on linux azur lug channel you might remember what i can do... === as [n=ahmet@abn129-236.interaktif.net.tr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === as [n=ahmet@abn129-236.interaktif.net.tr] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [06:50] OK< dumb question. In something like dir=#/foo/bar what is # ? === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:52] a typo? :) [06:53] It's generated that way in a shell script === tuxmaniac is now known as Windozemaniac [06:53] i jest, i jest [06:53] :-) === Windozemaniac is now known as tuxmaniac === Bazzi [n=Bastian@p50803C08.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:56] is it not a comment, so it's essentially dir= [06:57] oh no, i tried and it isn't === Laser_away is now known as LaserJock [07:03] I think they are assuming its ./ but I'm not sure === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sharms [n=mindwarp@cpe-69-135-178-113.twmi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=alessand@2001:1418:1ce:0:215:ff:fe19:4646] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:12] hi! I detected a bug in network-manager (#55334) [08:12] :-) [08:15] I just have to add this to rules: [08:15] binary-install/network-manager-gnome:: [08:15] dh_iconcache [08:15] ? [08:16] why doesn't cdbs call dh_iconcache? [08:16] no gnomeclass added [08:17] only autotools [08:17] hm. perhaps it's better to add them? [08:18]