[01:43] <Linuturk> !LAMP
[01:59] <Linuturk> and that is why I love a LAMP server :)
[01:59] <Linuturk> one command
[01:59] <Linuturk> and it's up and running :)
[04:11] <sanmarcos> is it possible to update from dapper to ubuntu-server?
[04:11] <sanmarcos> are there any fundamental changes in packages?
[12:46] <jimcooncat> how do I take a full dapper installation back down to a "server" install? aptitude purge xserver-xorg?
[12:46] <infinity> Uhm, you pretty much don't try.
[12:47] <infinity> But if you look at everything that "ubuntu-desktop" depends on and remove all of those packages, that's a good start.
[12:47] <infinity> It'll leave a lot of libraries behind, etc.
[12:47] <jimcooncat> I'm renting a "computer" from a uml web host
[12:48] <jimcooncat> they have a full dapper install, but they also have debian sarge
[12:48] <infinity> They seriously do a full install on a colo machine?  That's just wrong.
[12:48] <jimcooncat> maybe I could work from their little sarge install to upgrade to dapper?
[12:48] <infinity> We provide the minimal and server installs for that very reason.
[12:49] <infinity> Can't you just ask them to pick the "server" option on the Ubuntu install CD?
[12:49] <jimcooncat> I guess some people like to use it for testing, vnc, or whatever
[12:49] <infinity> (Which doesn't install the server kernel, unless it's a server CD, but it won't install all the desktop junk)
[12:50] <jimcooncat> I have to use one of the providers custom kernels anyway
[12:50] <infinity> Anyhow, were I in your place, I wouldn't care what they installed, Debian or Ubuntu, because I'd just debootstrap a new root filesystem, move it into place, make grub happy, and reboot.
[12:50] <infinity> Oh, right, UML. You can't do that either.
[12:51] <infinity> Not as easily, anyway.
[12:51] <infinity> Well, I suppose you can, the steps are just different.
[12:51] <jimcooncat> maybe I'll just stick with sarge and backports then
[12:51] <jimcooncat> just would be nice to have all my computers on dapper
[12:51] <infinity> Well, upgrading a minimal sarge installation to dapper should be fairly drama-free.
[12:51] <jimcooncat> really. just change repos and dist-upgrade?
[12:52] <infinity> I did sarge->breezy->dapper with no real issues.
[12:52] <infinity> Yeah, if it's a base install, there aren't many packages there anyway.  And most of the complex upgrade paths should be skipped.
[12:52] <jimcooncat> I did a dist-upgrade from warty to breezy with no probs on their system
[12:53] <jimcooncat> good, I'll give it a shot then. I've no investment in the current install.
[12:53] <jimcooncat> thanks for your help, infinity 
[12:53] <infinity> NP