[12:01] <mint|Alex> !compile
[12:01] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:01] <sethk> mint|Alex, you have to install libcurses
[12:01] <sethk> mint|Alex, if there is a dev package for curses, install that also
[12:01] <mint|Alex> apt-get install ?
[12:01] <duaneb> do I need a driver for integrated graphics?
[12:01] <dcordes> FuryNemesis: you got your cellphone running?
[12:01] <nu> gdb: take a look at the links at the top, where it says "register now" and "already a member"
[12:01] <sethk> mint|Alex, apt-get install libcurses
[12:02] <gdb> nu: ?
[12:02] <mint|Alex> Couldn't find package lubcurses
[12:02] <nu> gdb: you dont see it?
[12:02] <tmccrary> Hi, I added another user on my system and I need to be able to run X apps as that user
[12:02] <Dodzey> odla:any look?
[12:02] <sethk> mint|Alex, then apt-get install libcurses5-dev
[12:02] <tmccrary> Is this possible?
[12:02] <Dodzey> odla:luck*
[12:02] <gdb> nu: I got a 404 not found when I went to the address you posted.
[12:02] <sethk> mint|Alex, use synaptic and use search, it will show you all the libcurses packages
[12:02] <mint|Alex> i dont know what that is
[12:02] <nu> gdb: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/play/gdb.png
[12:02] <odla> Dodzey: i can run the applet when i run gksudo flock but not flock
[12:02] <sethk> mint|Alex, the first is libcurses5, not libcurses, sorry
[12:02] <sethk> mint|Alex, synaptic is a gui program for installing packages
[12:02] <sethk> mint|Alex, run it and find out.
[12:03] <Dodzey> it'll be permissions on the plugin then i reckon
[12:03] <Ireclan> I just thought of something.
[12:03] <mint|Alex> kk
[12:03] <mint|Alex> Couldn't find package libcurses5
[12:03] <dcordes> anybody can suggest a good DVB-T playeR?
[12:03] <tmccrary> Hi, I added another user on my system and I need to be able to run X apps as that user
[12:03] <Ireclan> On DistroWatch.com, it says Kubuntu is just Ubuntu+KDE, right?
[12:03] <gdb> nu: How does it look weird?  Perhaps I'm not perceptive enough. :-)
[12:03] <sethk> Ireclan, right
[12:03] <Dodzey> odla: try this, gksudo nautilus, browse to the opt/flock/plugins folder and properties - permissions
[12:04] <nu> gdb: did you see the "Register now" and "already a member" and "compare us" links?
[12:04] <gdb> nu: Are you looking at this on an LCD or CRT?
[12:04] <sethk> Ireclan, if you install the base system, regardless of whether you use the ubuntu or kubuntu install cd, the result is the same
[12:04] <Ireclan> So, could I install Kubuntu, then switch to Gnome?
[12:04] <odla> Dodzey: oh wait...it's working now...it must of just been that applet
[12:04] <nu> gdb: they look as if they're not smooth
[12:04] <odla> Dodzey: thanks
[12:04] <Dodzey> odla: np
[12:04] <sethk> Ireclan, better to not install the desktop at all
[12:04] <Dodzey> odla: flock's a great browser
[12:04] <sethk> Ireclan, the help on the install cd will tell you how to install only the cli part of the system
[12:04] <Dodzey> odla: i find it a bit nippier than firefox aswell
[12:04] <odla> Dodzey: it looks pretty interesting
[12:04] <thompa> does anyone know wha the new kernel update is. it says 2.6.15-26 amd64-generic, but i already have -26?
[12:05] <Ireclan> OK.
[12:05] <niruana> pffff i keep gething the error:
[12:05] <sethk> Ireclan, then you can install gnome.  you can also install kubuntu the default way and then switch to gnome, which wastes a bit of space.
[12:05] <azcazandco> anyone ever had hassles with ml-donkey-server?
[12:05] <sethk> Ireclan, but I think it's less confusing the other way.
[12:05] <tmccrary> Cam anyone help me out here please
[12:05] <niruana> root@zhukovsky:/etc/madwifi-0.9.2# make
[12:05] <thompa> how can i find out what the update is or what it fixes
[12:05] <niruana> /bin/sh: line 0: cd: /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/build: No such file or directoryMakefile.inc:89: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/build is missing, please set KERNELPATH.  Stop.
[12:05] <Dodzey> odla: one of the best features is the website snippets where you can drag and drop bits of sites to save them
[12:05] <thompa> !kernel
[12:05] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[12:06] <Dodzey> odla: the photobucket integration is pretty cool aswell
[12:06] <niruana> so?
[12:06] <keiaah> I started the Installer.exe with wine now, and get this "keiaah@ubuntu:~/WoW$ fixme:font:CreateScalableFontResourceW (1,0x955354,0x9552b4,(nil)): stub" I cant read it, anyone know how to change the fonts?
[12:06] <niruana> its ubuntu, so compiled?
[12:06] <nu> gdb: LCD
[12:06] <Ireclan> I'm curious, sethk, why do you like KDE? Why do you prefer it?
[12:06] <nu> kde is eye candy
[12:07] <odla> Dodzey: yeah i've never used it
[12:07] <gdb> nu: System > Preferences > Font and then set it to Subpixel smoothing or something.  Personally, I think the page looks fine, but that's my eye. ;-)
[12:07] <gdb> I detest KDE.
[12:07] <nu> lol hold on gdb, let me show you another ss
[12:07] <gdb> But hey, different strokes for different folks.
[12:07] <thompa> kde is more responsive, at least in gnome the menus always delay in showing icons
[12:08] <gdb> Which hasn't been my experience.
[12:08] <thompa> even with duo core etc gnome menus are slow
[12:08] <gdb> Nah, I think you're making it up.
[12:08] <Seveas> gdb, no, I'm seeing that here too
[12:08] <Seveas> slow disks are the cause
[12:08] <gdb> Weird, I get zero delay at all opening a menu.
[12:08] <void^> it's quite true, ironically kde/qt has started to perform better than gnome/gtk recently
[12:08] <gdb> Ah, that could explain it.
[12:09] <Dodzey> odla: i'd check to see if you have sound in flash stuff
[12:09] <thompa> it hesitates for a second before showing menu icon entries
[12:09] <odla> sure i'll go to homestarrunner.com ..that's flash i think
[12:09] <Dodzey> odla: its broke and you have to use a workaround to get it sorted
[12:09] <nu> gdb: lol, look up close on this next screenshot: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/play/91f5fb9b.png
[12:09] <Plouj> gaah!
[12:09] <nu> gdb: see the menu links on top
[12:09] <thompa> gdb: if i change my gnome theme it seems to be fine, i think its indexing or something
[12:10] <Plouj> how on earth am I supposed to run ubuntu if it isn't writing the boot loader into my disk's MBR?!?!?!
[12:10] <nu> the 'x' in 'Extensions' is brighter than the other letters, and the "Search Engines" link is also brighter than the other links
[12:10] <Ireclan> Errrrm....sethK?
[12:10] <nu> Ireclan: he parished =(
[12:11] <gdb> nu: I'm not sure what to tell you.  They look fine to me.  If you're comparing to the "extra crisp" look of Windows XP fonts, no, you're not going to get that.  However, you can make Windows XP more like what you're seeing here by enabling the Microsoft font smoothing technology "ClearType".
[12:11] <Ireclan> Ah.
[12:11] <gdb> nu: Which you can do by right clicking the desktop, properties, advanced, font smoothing or something along those lines
[12:11] <Dodzey> nu: i think the X just looks brighter because they are not as many pixels to make up the letter
[12:11] <nu> gdb: alright. but did you see what i mean when i said "the 'x' in 'Extensions' is brighter than the other letters, and the "Search Engines" link is also brighter than the other links" ?
[12:11] <Dodzey> nu: its an illussion
[12:12] <unikon> i need help guys im stuck on step 5 i wont see any hs to install to
[12:12] <nu> Dodzey: oh. is there a way to fix that?
[12:12] <gdb> nu: The problem is that most free fonts are crap, frankly, and if you turn off the font smoothing in X, you're going to have an ugly desktop, while the MS fonts will look great.  The compromise is to use smoothing for everything.
[12:12] <unikon>  i know the wires are connected and also the hd is good
[12:12] <nu> gdb: ill just get used to this then =D
[12:12] <gdb> nu: Yeah, I see what you mean, absolutely.
[12:12] <nu> gdb: alright man. thanks for all the help.
[12:13] <gdb> nu: The day I can log into a Linux desktop and see fonts as crisp as Windows is the day I'll, well, I'll be extra happy that day.
[12:13] <nu> gdb: me too. ill probably officially delete my xp partition
[12:13] <Dodzey> nu: the search engine link is lighter because its the only link you havent visited
[12:13] <gdb> I'm sure it's a font selection thing because when I run tsclient under Linux, my Windows session looks as I expect it to.
[12:13] <Dodzey> nu: visit it and go to another page then refresh, it'll be dark
[12:14] <nu> Dodzey: rofl i noticed. but what about the x
[12:14] <Dodzey> its just 'cause there are less pixels used in the center of the font in comparison to other letters
[12:14] <gdb> Dodzey: The font is dithered poorly is what he's pointing out.
[12:14] <nu> Dodzey: also, i posted another screenshot. let me show it to you: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/play/gdb.png look at the links that say "register now" and "already a member"
[12:15] <nu> Dodzey: thats another example
[12:15] <Dodzey> gdb: yeah, it is, but thats free fonts for you...
[12:15] <Tamale> try using the bitstream vera fonts
[12:15] <Renan_s2> the fonts look OK for me
[12:15] <Tamale> they increased my love for linux 10-fold
[12:16] <gdb> Dodzey: Well, I think in this case, it's the font smoothing in the X server. He's using msttcorefonts so those should be MS fonts being rendered there.
[12:16] <Dodzey> nu: they're just like that to show you have visited the pages or havent, alot of websites use different colours for links depending on whether you have visited them
[12:16] <budluva> anyone here had any luck installing qtorrent?
[12:16] <budluva> i think its a broken package, and it's telling me to file a bug, how do i do that?
[12:16] <gdb> Renan_s2: They look "acceptable" and "ok" they do not look "the same as under Windows" (assuming ClearType is disabled, as is default on Windows).
[12:16] <nu> Dodzey: i know. in that last sreenshot, the font links are dark grey, even if you visit them. but the problem isnt the colors, it the shape
[12:16] <nu> Dodzey: they look a little weird.
[12:16] <void^> fonts on windows without cleartype aren't great.
[12:17] <odla> Dodzey: you said you use photobucket?  is there an upload limit?
[12:17] <void^> i noticed that just yesterday, did some webbrowsing on a xp box and was surprised at pixelated headers.
[12:17] <FurryNemesis> odla, yes but it's huge
[12:17] <odla> larger than flickr?
[12:17] <Dodzey> odla: yeah, i just use it for quickly throwing up screenshots and pictures for people, its nice to be able to drag into the photbucket bar in flock
[12:18] <adrian> how do i set a seperate administrative password
[12:18] <Dodzey> odla: i personally find flickr better (you can use that in flock too)
[12:18] <adrian> ive setup an additional user
[12:18] <odla> yeah flock seems pretty cool
[12:18] <gdb> adrian: sudo passwd root
[12:18] <FurryNemesis> Dodzey, flock is now linux-compatible?
[12:18] <odla> is it going to be packaged for edgy?
[12:18] <gdb> adrian: I assume you mean to set a password for the root user, yes?
[12:18] <Dodzey> yup
[12:18] <odla> FurryNemesis: yeah
[12:18] <Dodzey> it always has been asfar as i know
[12:18] <Dodzey> its not in the repo's
[12:18] <adrian> gdb, yeah i guess, i only want one password for sudo
[12:18] <odla> FurryNemesis: www.ubuntuos.com  scroll down for flock
[12:19] <Dodzey> you'll have to download the archive from flock website
[12:19] <gdb> adrian: Well, that's not possible.
[12:19] <gdb> adrian: The password for sudo is always the password of the user using sudo.
[12:19] <adrian> so ubuntu isnt really multiuser!
[12:19] <adrian> or am i confused
[12:19] <adrian> =P
[12:19] <Renan_s2> adrian, it is
[12:19] <gdb> adrian: I think you're confused.
[12:19] <adrian> yeah usually am
[12:19] <Renan_s2> you can have multiple users logged in via SSH or modem, for instance
[12:19] <Tamale> gdb:  Do you have sup-pixel hinting on?
[12:19] <gdb> adrian: If you want a single password that people can use to "su" to root, you can do that. You can't set a universal password for "sudo" because it's the user's own pasword.
[12:20] <gdb> Tamale: of course
[12:20] <Tamale> try the other options
[12:20] <gdb> adrian: Does that make sense?
[12:20] <adrian> so doing a sudo passwd root just change my users password as well?
[12:20] <Dodzey> nu: i use Sans font, with subpixel rendering on and my fonts look fine
[12:20] <adrian> changed*
[12:20] <Tamale> i'm tellin 'ya though, the best fonts in linux are the bitstream vera ones.... by FAR
[12:21] <nu> Dodzey: let me try playing with the subpixels
[12:21] <Tamale> i wish there were fonts this clear in windows
[12:21] <odla> yeah i've got no audio with flashplayer too
[12:21] <gdb> Dodzey: It's an astetics question.  His point is valid.  The fonts "look ok" they "are acceptable" they "look fine" they *do not* look the same as they do under Windows which doesn't require font smoothing to "look good" and renders crisper fonts.
[12:21] <nu> ok. this is gonna sound bad. but i can't find where my font configuration is
[12:21] <gdb> Tamale: I don't have an issue with how my fonts look.
[12:22] <Tamale> nu, sorry.
[12:22] <gdb> nu: System > Preferences > Font
[12:22] <troytroy> hi mistakenl formated my windows patition which contains the grub boot loader and now system only detects windows os how do i correct this.
[12:22] <Dodzey> odla: want help with that?
[12:22] <nu> Tamale: fear not
[12:22] <gdb> nu: menu off the top of the screen (in gnome)
[12:22] <godtvisken> Anyone in here use a transparent terminal? I'm looking for a good image/color scheme that is easy to read.
[12:22] <odla> Dodzey: sure
[12:22] <troytroy> dont want to reinstall dapper
[12:22] <nu> gdb: are you using gnome?
[12:22] <gdb> nu: Yes
[12:22] <Dodzey> and for anyone else who is listening
[12:23] <nu> gdb: xfce here. ive looked in System and Preferences, not there. hold on though. still looking
[12:23] <Tamale> godtvisken: Aterm with a shader value of 50 or so over a fractal background from blatte's backgrounds looks very nice  :)
[12:23] <Dodzey> odla: get alsa-oss from the repo's then run flock with 'aoss flock'
[12:23] <nu> Tamale: show screenshot =D
[12:23] <odla> Dodzey: sounds like a pretty easy fix :)
[12:23] <acojlo> hi, I can not play videos from cnn.com inside firefox
[12:24] <Dodzey> odla: if it works just change your launcher in /usr/share/apllications/ so its more 'permanent'
[12:24] <gdb> nu: Ah, that's right, I recall you mentioning that earlier.
[12:24] <odla> Dodzey: yeah...i'll just edit the gnome menu with alacarte
[12:24] <nu> gdb: ;)
[12:24] <Dodzey> odla: in firefox you can change a config file to use a different dsp so you dont need to load it with aoss, but im not sure how you do that in flock
[12:25] <unfun> how do I install totem xine torugh terminal?
[12:25] <odla> Dodzey: yup that worked
[12:25] <Seveas> unfun, sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[12:25] <troytroy> dont want to reinstall dapper
[12:25] <troytroy> hi mistakenl formated my windows patition which contains the grub boot loader and now system only detects windows os how do i correct this.
[12:26] <schicken> how do I run c++ programs after I compile them with g++
[12:26] <bob_> Does anyone know how to mount multiple windows partitions? I use this command ( sudo mount /dev/hdd1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222 )but it only mounts one partition at a time. My two windows partitions show up as hdd1 and hdd5 when I do ( sudo fdisk ) command.
[12:26] <Seveas> schicken, ./app-name
[12:26] <Dodzey> odla: hopefully, someone will get flock / firefox to let you set it in the gui preferences cos its a little hidden otherwise
[12:26] <dooglus> bob_: you can separate shell commands with a semicolon
[12:26] <Seveas> bob_, then use the command twice, second time with hdd5 instead of hdd1
[12:26] <odla> Dodzey: so does firefox need to start with aoss firefox too?
[12:26] <schicken> thanks
[12:26] <bob_> oh thank you
[12:27] <dooglus> bob_: use a different directory in /media for the 2nd one, or it will be mounted over the first one
[12:27] <dooglus> bob_: "sudo mkdir /media/windows2" or something to make the 2nd directory
[12:27] <bob_> ok I'm trying right now
[12:28] <Dodzey> odla: yeah, but you can edit /etc/firefox/firefoxrc
[12:28] <simpo> hi! how to set vnc server using only SSH conection ?
[12:28] <CrazyDoode> good answer dooglus
[12:28] <Dodzey> odla: just change the line to FIREFOX_DSP="aoss"
[12:29] <Dodzey> odla: then you can just start firefox regularly
[12:29] <xsimo> salut  tous see ya guys later
[12:29] <odla> Dodzey: that's easy enough
[12:29] <odla> thanks
[12:29] <troytroy> hi i formated my  windows partition which has grub installed there and reinstall windows now dont see the boot menu again. how  do i get dapper back to boot menu?
[12:29] <bmonkey> i can't install xfonts-core through cd, because of a md5 error! apt-get tries the cd...... how do i tell apt-get to use the web??
[12:29] <Dodzey> odla: np
[12:29] <Dodzey> odla: anything for a flock'ster lmao
[12:29] <bob_> It working thank you very much
[12:29] <Tamale> still here nu?
[12:30] <deltoya> troytroy: try this -> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76652.html
[12:30] <odla> Dodzey: yeah flock seems pretty cool
[12:30] <nu> Tamale: yes
[12:30] <Tamale> http://www.rage-board.com/files/tamale/fluxterm.png
[12:30] <linuxd00d> haha windoze sucks
[12:30] <valehru> quick question.  I added a new hard drive.  And through the disk manager I reset its boot path to /media/backup.  However when I restart the system it keeps defaulting to /tmp/somefolder.  This seems to be the default setting somewhere?  How can I make the change permenantly?
[12:31] <troytroy> deltoya: ok
[12:31] <Tamale> someone else was asking about transparent terminals too.
[12:31] <DanaG> !compiz
[12:31] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:31] <Dodzey> valehru: you can edit /etc/fstab
[12:31] <nu> Tamale:  that is neat!
[12:32] <keiaah> Anyone know how to add fonts to wine?
[12:32] <odla> brb
[12:32] <Tamale> DanaG:  They were just wondering how you can make a transparent terminal.. not how to make EVERYTHING transparent  ;)
[12:32] <digitalhav0c> are the ubuntu repositories slow to anyone else today or is it just me?
[12:32] <linuxd00d> does anybody know of a good MP3 player for ubuntu
[12:32] <Renan_s2> linuxd00d, amaroK
[12:32] <Xorlev> XMMS
[12:32] <Renan_s2> I don't see the point of having transparent stuff.
[12:32] <Tamale> linuxd00d: xmms is nice.
[12:32] <Boudi> mplayer as well
[12:32] <Dodzey> digitalhav0c: they were for me last time i d/l something
[12:33] <Tamale> Renan_s2: I don't know how I ever computed without it  :] 
[12:33] <bmonkey> i can't install xfonts-core through cd, because of a md5 error! apt-get tries the cd...... how do i tell apt-get to use the web?? x does not start :(
[12:33] <Boudi> it depends on what you want exactly with a GUI or not
[12:33] <bmonkey> with gui
[12:34] <linuxd00d> Tamale: i have tried to get XMMS but it says that i cant install it because it cant mount my CD drive :s
[12:34] <digitalhav0c> dodzey thanks
[12:34] <digitalhav0c> yeah just did an update
[12:34] <digitalhav0c> and its taking forever
[12:34] <troytroy> linuxd00d: try amarok
[12:34] <linuxd00d> doing update as we speak :)
[12:34] <Dodzey> myne hung up just downloading a 50kb package
[12:34] <tristanmike> is there an applet to see ones gmail ?
[12:35] <Dodzey> took 20 seconds or so just to start
[12:35] <digitalhav0c> yeah
[12:35] <linuxd00d> troytroy: i have tried to use amarok to play MP3 file format, but it gives me the blank
[12:35] <bmonkey> i can't install xfonts-core through cd, because of a md5 error! apt-get tries the cd...... how do i tell apt-get to use the web?? x does not start because of that :(
[12:36] <troytroy> linuxd00d: u need to get plugins or what they call it
[12:36] <DIguana> Anyone know how I can configure my sshd not to time out after a couple of minutes of inactivity?
[12:36] <cdubya> trogbot, you get it figured out at all?
[12:36] <Dodzey> linuxd00d - easyubuntu will install the codecs for mp3 playback etc
[12:36] <troytroy> linuxd00d: hold let me check if i can get u a script to install engines ..
[12:37] <mcphail> bmonkey: in the /etc/apt/sources.list file, put a "#" sign at the start of the line with the cdrom
[12:37] <tristanmike> linuxd00d: have you installed "libxine-extracodecs"
[12:37] <secleinteer> hi does any1 know the command for unmounting?
[12:37] <linuxd00d> troytroy: tried no luck, i know this sounds like pure lazyness but would you be able to get me a link for the plugins
[12:37] <mcphail> umount
[12:37] <Dodzey> umount
[12:37] <DIguana> secleinteer: umount
[12:37] <secleinteer> k
[12:37] <secleinteer> thx
[12:37] <DIguana> 1138
[12:37] <bmonkey> mcphail: thx
[12:38] <linuxd00d> tristanmike: no i have not
[12:38] <tristanmike> linuxd00d: try installing that package to get amarok to play mp3's as well as "gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly"
[12:39] <troytroy> linuxd00d: no problem thats what this chann is about. do some maintenance now could u hold for 30min
[12:39] <simpo> how to set up vnc server ?
[12:39] <Maxaroni> hi
[12:40] <linuxd00d> troytroy: yeah on all night
[12:40] <troytroy> linuxd00d: ok
[12:40] <eternaljoy> can I show someone my sources.list to tell me if its up topdate please?
[12:40] <eternaljoy> who here can have a quikc look?
[12:40] <trogbot> cdubya:  No not yet...still reading the bug report u pointed at...but it appears it was for winxp printer & not linux printer for win users.
[12:40] <cdubya> eternaljoy, pastebin.
[12:41] <nu> hey guys...
[12:41] <cdubya> trogbot, ahh....sorry....I just caught a few of the thread
[12:41] <DIguana> So does anyone know how to keep sshd from timing out on connections, or at least how to extend the timeout period to something like 30-60min?
[12:41] <nu> everytime i open the terminal, it opens really big. is there a way to make it remember the size it was when i last resize it?
[12:41] <qwerty> aloha
[12:42] <Dodzey> !register
[12:42] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[12:42] <svu> is there any repository with xgl/compiz .debs for ubuntu?
[12:42] <nathanial> hello. A little help please.
[12:42] <eternaljoy> cdmwebs: I pasted to you
[12:42] <Dodzey> svu:visit compiz.net for quinns packages
[12:42] <qwerty> to install dapper straight onto the hard drive, is it possible? do i have to boot with live option and then click install ?
[12:42] <stefg> !xgl
[12:42] <mcphail> DIguana: what are you connecting with?
[12:42] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:43] <Dodzey> svu: they are instructions on her forums on which repositories to use, i think she has the vanilla ones aswell, not sure
[12:43] <svu> Dodzey, thanks
[12:43] <trogbot> cdubya:  But it may still help...still mucking through it...i did notice though through other investigation, that about the time I installed Automatix and it changed the sources.list that stuff quit working.  maybe that had something to do with it???
[12:43] <tsume> wom 11
[12:43] <bmonkey> how do i start the giFT daemon???
[12:43] <nathanial> I just updated my UBUNTU and suddenly I'm running on EDUBUNTU. . .any thoughts????
[12:43] <Dodzey> nathanial: maybe its telling you its time to go back to school :p lol, only kidding
[12:44] <nathanial> haha. I finished college. that should be enough for now haha.
[12:44] <trogbot> cdubya: that was just before the updates were applied....does sources.list order have impact on where things get loaded from?
[12:44] <Dodzey> nathanial: complete edubuntu or just boot splash?
[12:44] <qwerty> does anyone elses dapper off live cd just CRAWL - using a dell inspiron 1.5 ghz, 256 ddr2 ram, just crashed trying to install onto hard drive
[12:44] <nathanial> Dedzey: my log in interface says "edubuntu"
[12:45] <nathanial> after I log in, my wallpaper is 'edubuntu' wallpaper
[12:45] <keiaah> qwerty, I had same problem. I used the alternate cd to install instead
[12:45] <trogbot> cdubya: Thinking about un-installing cups/samba...going back to my orig sources.list and reinstalling cups/samba...do you think that might help?
[12:45] <DIguana> mcphail: PuTTY, but it works fine for other servers.
[12:45] <qwerty> hmm keiaah -- its terrible isn't it, takes 5 mins to open up terminal window, is there a way to install from start without having to boot and then install
[12:46] <unfun> What should I install to get my sound to work? I just reformated ubuntu and my sound doesn't work.
[12:46] <keiaah> qwerty, use the alternate cd. its like the breezy install.
[12:46] <qwerty> keiaah thanks alot
[12:46] <qwerty> will go and try it now :)
[12:47] <keiaah> qwerty, no problem. I guess some hardware has problem with the live installer
[12:47] <mcphail> DIguana: putty has issues and can be configured to behave better and not time out. The issue is partly with the software, partly with Windows and partly with the network, by the looks of it.
[12:47] <linuxd00d> ... updates download faster than they install
[12:47] <DanaG> !amarok
[12:47] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.1 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php
[12:47] <FuriousRage> HAH, i robbed a friend of mine of one of his 100mbit nic's so now i sit in ubuntu AMD64 ;>
[12:48] <xed2> can anyone help with installing libavcodec2 ?
 i need it badly for zoneminder!
[12:48] <Seveas> !find libavcodec
[12:48] <ubotu> Found: libavcodec-dev
[12:48] <DanaG> Okay, how do I get more codecs in Amarok?
[12:48] <Seveas> !find avcodec
[12:48] <ubotu> Found: libavcodec-dev
[12:48] <Seveas> hmm
[12:49] <FurryNemesis> !find wm32codecs
[12:49] <ubotu> No packages matching 'wm32codecs' could be found
[12:49] <DanaG> just lib<whatever the codec is>?
[12:49] <cdubya> !restricted
[12:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:49] <xed2> thanks seavas
[12:50] <xed2> but libavcodec-dev isnt it ...
[12:50] <cdubya> DanaG, might check those links
[12:50] <gizmo_the_great1> hi. My 17 year old sister in law is staying with us for a week next week. I want her to be able to log in, use Firefox, aMSN etc, but pretty much nothing else. I've added her as a user, and de-selected many of the services that she can use. But she can still, for example, navigate to my own home folder. How can I quickly secure her account?
[12:50] <valehru> Is there a reason why this doesnt work in fstab? /dev/sdb	/media/backup	ext3    auto,user,umask=0  0    0
[12:51] <agliodbs> gizmo_the_great1: how about setting up a separate account for her?
[12:51] <gizmo_the_great1> agliodbs:   i've done that
[12:51] <agliodbs> oh, I see, you did that
you need to specify the partition ie sdb1 or 2 or whatever
[12:51] <eternaljoy> when I try to copy my audio CD using Sound Juicer, my drive spins very fast like crazy, but it copies at a very very slow rate.  Any ideas for a solution anyone?
[12:51] <agliodbs> how can she access your home folder?  She shouldn't have permissions
[12:51] <gizmo_the_great1> launches nautilus and navigates to it
[12:52] <nu> I just installed Conky though Synaptic. anyone know where it went?
[12:52] <aujordanh> gizmo_the_great1, she can't change anything though
[12:52] <rki> nu, type conky in a termninal
[12:52] <nu> rki: thanks.
[12:52] <gizmo_the_great1> agliodbs: Not tried that.  I was surprised that she was able to access at all
[12:52] <valehru> Dodzey, I thought I did when I stated /dev/sdb
[12:52] <valehru> ahh
[12:53] <valehru> gotcha
[12:53] <gizmo_the_great1> aujordanh: Not tried that.  I was surprised that she was able to access at all
[12:53] <FuriousRage> cant you set -r on others or something?
[12:53] <cdubya> nu, /usr/bin/conky
[12:53] <cdubya> perhaps
[12:53] <valehru> Dodzey, thx
[12:53] <skeff> my Amarok (1.4.1 from kubuntu) crashes when I try playing m4a files.  I have libxine-extracodecs if it matters, as the only enginge I can choose is xine.  Got solution to this?
[12:53] <gizmo_the_great1> aujordanh: could it be because I created a new user group called 'restrictedusers'?
[12:54] <gizmo_the_great1> aujordanh: I thought I could set permissions group wise but it seems I am not able to
[12:54] <cdubya> gizmo_the_great1, you can
[12:54] <gizmo_the_great1> cdubya: me been an idiot then :-) I not sure how to
[12:54] <aujordanh> gizmo_the_great1, i dont use groups and cant tell you about them, have you read the security pages at tdlp.org?
[12:54] <cdubya> gizmo_the_great1, np.....
[12:54] <FuriousRage> gizmo_the_great1: something like: sudo chmod g-r /home/yourfolder <-- not 100% sure tho
[12:54] <gizmo_the_great1> aujordanh: no - but i will
[12:55] <cdubya> gizmo_the_great1, what FuriousRage said.
[12:55] <cdubya> :)
[12:55] <cdubya> beat me to it
[12:55] <cdubya> heh
[12:55] <FuriousRage> cdubya: : wow did i get it right? O.o
[12:55] <cdubya> gizmo_the_great1, or you can use another method if it's easier for you to remember
[12:55] <Plouj> I'm gonna re-state my question
[12:55] <eternaljoy> HELP: when I try to copy my audio CD using Sound Juicer, my drive spins very fast like crazy, but it copies at a very very slow rate.  Any ideas for a solution anyone?
[12:55] <darthbator> hey guys has anyone noticed any strange window placement stuff with mplayer and compiz?
[12:55] <Plouj> is this what your boot loader looks like, guys? http://sh.nu/p/2595
[12:55] <cdubya> gizmo_the_great1, owner-group-world
[12:56] <eternaljoy> any other program besides Sound Juicer?
[12:56] <_priest> eternaljoy: gnomebaker
[12:56] <linuxd00d> guys please tell troytroy that i am restarting my Laptop if he asks for me please,
[12:56] <valehru> Dodzey, I rebooted and no success....here is what is in fstab: /dev/sdb1	/media/backup	ext3    auto,user,umask=0  0    0
[12:56] <nu> cdubya: got it. thanks
[12:56] <gizmo_the_great1> cdubya: i confused. What is 'owner-group-world'? It says command not found?
[12:56] <cdubya> gizmo_the_great1, so if you chmod 755, then you're setting the owner to have read-write-execute (the 7), the group to read-execute (the 5) and the world to read-execute (the 5)
[12:56] <troytroy> linuxd00d: ok :)
[12:56] <unfun> !sound
[12:56] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[12:56] <linuxd00d> lol
[12:56] <Dodzey> valehru make sure that you have made that /media/storage/ folder
[12:57] <cdubya> gizmo_the_great1, I was using that as an example to explain it to you. sorry for the confusion.
[12:57] <valehru> Dodzey, it exists
[12:57] <FuriousRage> hmm, i got a question my self, does cedega and/or wine come for AMD64 kernels? or do i need some chroot for those?
[12:57] <eternaljoy> _priest: gnomebacker copies audio CD's?
[12:57] <agliodbs> hmmm
[12:57] <gizmo_the_great1> cdubya: i gotchya
[12:57] <Boudi> yes it copies audio CD's
[12:57] <agliodbs> do I partition both disks to match exactly first
[12:57] <cdubya> gizmo_the_great1, so if you have a folder that you want to allow access to, just ask yourself who you want to have permissions and what level
[12:57] <agliodbs> and then set up SW RAID?
[12:57] <DanaG> I can't find  libxine-extracodecs
[12:57] <_priest> eternaljoy: it all interfaces with the cdrecord tools i think
[12:57] <Dodzey> valehru: what privelages?
[12:57] <cdubya> gizmo_the_great1, then assign it using the number.....
[12:57] <_priest> so whatever the limits are with cdrecord
[12:58] <agliodbs> I'm used to doing it the other way
[12:58] <darthbator> DanaG: you need to enable the multiverse repositories to get that one
[12:58] <valehru> you mean the person that edits that file? sudo /etc/fstab
[12:58] <valehru> Dodzey, you mean the person that edits that file? sudo /etc/fstab
[12:58] <eduard> anywabody has any issues installing kqemu?
[12:58] <cdubya> gizmo_the_great1, so if I want to have full privs myself and full for my group, the I might do something like sudo chmod 775 /home/my_folder
[12:58] <Dodzey> valehru: check to make sure that in /media you actually have a folder called backup
[12:58] <valehru> Dodzey, yes I do.
[12:59] <cdubya> gizmo_the_great1, and if you want that permission set to apply to all subdirs, just add a -R flag for recursion
[12:59] <nu> hezus. linux takes a while to get it exactly how you want =D
[12:59] <gizmo_the_great1> cdubya: easier still, i think, is I've changed permissions to read\write for the owner and group of my home folder (my username is in the group) and deselcted read and write for 'others' using nautilus
[12:59] <eduard> I already installed qemu but I need kqemu for better "speed"
[12:59] <cdubya> gizmo_the_great1, hey, whatever works for you. :)
[12:59] <FuriousRage> hmm, i got a question my self, does cedega and/or wine come for AMD64 kernels? or do i need some chroot for those?
[12:59] <unfun> !rpm
[12:59] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[12:59] <cdubya> I'm all about what's easiest and effective
[12:59] <valehru> Dodzey, is that fstab entry correct?
[12:59] <Dodzey> valehru: paste your fstab line for that mount again
[12:59] <unfun> !alien
[12:59] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[01:00] <valehru> np
[01:00] <gizmo_the_great1> cdubya: i will su and see if it has worked - back in a bit
[01:00] <keiaah> Ok, I solved the font problem in wine by instaling mscorefonts. Still, there seems like Im missing some fonts, I couldnt read the licence agreement. Any ideas?
[01:00] <valehru> Dodzey, /dev/sdb1	/media/backup	ext3    auto,user,umask=0  0    0
[01:00] <acojlo> so, totem-xine has a problem with firefox. no problem - mplayer is doing the job!
[01:00] <cpk2> keiaah: what program?
[01:01] <keiaah> cpk2, I am installing WoW
[01:01] <_priest> keiaah: all you need is tahoma.ttf
[01:01] <_priest> place that in ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/fonts i think
[01:01] <keiaah> _priest, where do I find them?
[01:01] <_priest> keiaah: search google for tahoma.tt
[01:01] <_priest> tahoma.ttf
[01:01] <keiaah> ok, thanks
[01:01] <Dodzey> valehru, seems ok, but my mind aint on the ball this evening heh....try 'sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/backup' in a terminal
[01:02] <svu> Dodzey, but this repo is for dapper. Is there such a thing for edgy?
[01:02] <_priest> anyone upgrade to gnome 2.14.3 yea
[01:02] <_priest> it apparently needs me to restart the system for gnome updates :\
[01:02] <Narf> why not just restart gnome ?
[01:02] <alecks> whats the latest version of cgwd?
[01:02] <Dodzey> svu: there is, i think, but im not sure where you will find it, maybe have a look on the compiz forums for people using edgy, or try on ubuntuforums
[01:02] <_priest> Narf: well yea i know but the notification is telling me to restart the system :X
[01:02] <_priest> seems kinda windowish to me
[01:03] <TheGame> ya _priest i have the new gnome
[01:03] <gizmo_the_great1> cdubya: yep - that has worked :-). I liked your way because it looks fancy. But my way was easier, lol
[01:03] <Narf> huh
[01:03] <valehru> Dodzey, that does the trick...but I want it done each time I reboot
[01:03] <Narf> I've never had such an issue
[01:03] <gizmo_the_great1> cdubya: she now gets permission denied
[01:03] <_priest> Narf: really?
[01:03] <darthbator> I was thinking about upgrading gnome right now =P
[01:03] <Narf> yep
[01:03] <_priest> hmm i didnt update any kernel so not sure why its asking me to restart
[01:03] <Dodzey> valehru, ok so there is something wrong with you fstab line, but i aint sure what, sorry
[01:03] <FuriousRage> ive got those restart system message boxes too
[01:03] <TheGame> u probably did get a new kernel
[01:03] <darthbator> looks like there's a new compiz as well :)
[01:03] <TheGame> there was a new one real recently
[01:03] <eduard> anybody with qemu and kqemu?
[01:04] <TheGame> theres a new compiz?
[01:04] <eduard> :D
[01:04] <Dodzey> valehru - just try 'sudo umount -a' then sudo mount -a
[01:04] <svu> Dodzey, ok, thanks, I will. It seems edgy is moving forward so fast that xgl builders cannot catch up...:)
[01:04] <_priest> ah crap
[01:04] <TheGame> what is the name of the compiz pckg
[01:04] <_priest> TheGame: i did and didnt notice
[01:04] <yoshiznit123> could anybody explain (or point me to docs about) how to go about installing ubuntu on raid?
[01:04] <RunUO22748> how much space does the LAMP install take up?
[01:04] <_priest> Setting up linux-image-2.6.15-26-386 (2.6.15-26.46) .
[01:04] <_priest> hehe
[01:04] <DanaG> I don't like this other Compiz.
[01:04] <Narf> yeah
[01:04] <_priest> this is why i steer away from using the gui to update
[01:04] <DanaG> The cube rotation is more awkward.
[01:04] <Narf> I already set it up last night
[01:04] <mads> hej Tomze
[01:04] <Narf> but I don't want to reboot
[01:04] <MikeW> Hello guys. Do you guys know who is in charge of administring the wiki, or the team that make wiki decisions?
[01:05] <TheGame> DanaG: xgl and compiz are awesome
[01:05] <Narf> so I'll just wait for the power company to do it for me :D
[01:05] <Dodzey> valehru just something that may sound daft, but it is formatted as ext3 right?
[01:05] <RunUO22748> MikeW check the.. wiki :)
[01:05] <darthbator> compiz 0.0.13-0quinn27
[01:05] <valehru> just got this error
[01:05] <cdubya> heh
[01:05] <valehru> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1,
[01:05] <valehru>        missing codepage or other error
[01:05] <gizmo_the_great1> cdubya: what's better still is that all my mount mounts to my other drives were set in a folder in my home directory. And so denying other users access to it they can't access any of my drives either! Rock on!
[01:05] <Tomze> mads: f !
[01:05] <valehru> yeah...I could have sworn it was ext3
[01:05] <DanaG> Quinn's one or the vanilla?
[01:05] <cdubya> gizmo_the_great1, kewl. :)
[01:05] <Dodzey> valehru: make sure :)
[01:05] <TheGame> is there a way to update my existing compiz darthbator
[01:05] <valehru> haha
[01:05] <DanaG> Their config files break each other.
[01:05] <acojlo> how to tell totem to use "x11 or xshm" instead of "xv or xvmc or xxmc" ?
[01:06] <Narf> anyway, I came here to ask - is there some way to disable the shutdown button, under the "Quit" item in the main menu ?
[01:06] <Dodzey> valehru: haha?
[01:06] <eternaljoy> _priest: gnomebaker doesnt copy audio CD's
[01:06] <TheGame> Narf:  i dont think s
[01:06] <TheGame> o
[01:06] <DanaG> Also, there's an unsatisfiable dependency on a newer cgwd.
[01:06] <valehru> Dodzey, disk manager app recognises it as Extended 3
[01:06] <darthbator> what where the changes in the new compiz I just installed it and window resizing is still slow, or ugly
[01:06] <Narf> :/
[01:06] <Narf> It bugs me to hell
[01:06] <_priest> eternaljoy: therees a big button at the top that says copy audio cd's
[01:06] <darthbator> and my mplayer still keeps deciding to put itself off the screen =P
[01:06] <linuxd00d> troytroy: im back, lol
[01:06] <DanaG> I want window snapping but not wobbling.
[01:07] <Narf> I don't want somebody to be able to shutdown my computer
[01:07] <TheGame> ya window resizing needs to improve
[01:07] <DanaG> I still see no extracodecs.
[01:07] <troytroy> linuxd00d: ok
[01:07] <mate_> good morning all.. i'm having some serious troubles getting my ati 9600 mobility drivers working .... i've checked all the faqs and forums and still grief.. anyone with any suggestions?
[01:07] <TheGame> buy an nvidia card
[01:07] <FuriousRage> i used partition magic 8 in windows to resize win parition down for linux dual boot ^
[01:07] <mate_> hehehe
[01:07] <MikeW> Will xgl be bundled with edgy?
[01:07] <TheGame> if it is stable
[01:07] <mate_> i have a laptop....
[01:08] <TheGame> FuriousRage: what help do u need
[01:08] <troytroy> linuxd00d: am having problem loading driver for mass storage drive: contains some customized scripts to automates some of these procc..
[01:08] <FuriousRage> hmm, i got a question my self, does cedega and/or wine come for AMD64 kernels? or do i need some chroot for those?
[01:08] <troytroy> linuxd00d: pls be with u soon ok
[01:08] <DanaG> Look at rage3d.com/board -- it's an ATI fan site forum.
[01:08] <DanaG> Perhaps something there can be helpful.
[01:08] <mcphail> FuriousRage: chroot
[01:08] <mate_> DanaG, thanks i'll shout over there and have a look now. Appreciated!
[01:08] <linuxd00d> troytroy, sok take your time
[01:09] <Narf> one more thing
[01:09] <valehru> Dodzey, I don't want to spam the channel so I just want your opinion on this error message
[01:09] <FuriousRage> mmkay, gonna look up an choot guide for dummies and see if i can get wine working
[01:09] <Dodzey> valehru: ....
[01:09] <darthbator> no extracodecs still? I found it when I added deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse
[01:10] <Narf> wine uses some huge font to display text, how can I change that? I didn't have this issue in 5.*
[01:10] <valehru> Dodzey, thats the error Im getting from it...
[01:11] <agliodbs> ok, I'm trying to set up SW raid on ubuntu server, and I can't figure out how to format the raid volume
[01:11] <agliodbs> there's no option for it
[01:11] <darthbator> I assume at least a few of you guys here are using XGL+compiz what media players are you guys using?
[01:11] <nu> whats the terminal command to delete a file?
[01:11] <FuriousRage> darthbator: vlc wins all the way for me
[01:11] <darthbator> rm
[01:11] <nu> darthbator: thanks
[01:11] <darthbator> be carefull ;)
[01:12] <nu> will do!
[01:12] <nu> Ok
[01:12] <nu> while at it
[01:12] <nu> when trying to delete something from the bin dir
[01:12] <nu> it wont let me because im not root
[01:12] <DanaG> aah, I didn't have that one.
[01:12] <nu> so i have to open a terminal and do it with sudo
[01:12] <darthbator> sudo <command>
[01:12] <nu> any easier way?
[01:12] <Dr_Willis> nu,  that is the easy way. :P
[01:12] <nu> LOL
[01:12] <nu> that makes me sad lol =(
[01:12] <Dr_Willis> nu,  the shell is  good... love the shell.. live the shell..
[01:12] <livingdaylig> how do i check pixels on the monitor?
[01:13] <Dr_Willis> concise and to the point. :P whats not to love
[01:13] <FuriousRage> Dr_Willis: fill up gas at shell!
[01:13] <Dr_Willis> FuriousRage,  put a tiger in your tank!
[01:13] <Dr_Willis> :P
[01:13] <nu> Dr_Willis: everytime i start the terminal, its really big. how can i make it so it remembers the size when resize it?
[01:13] <livingdaylig> anyone know? how do people check pixels on monitors?
[01:14] <FuriousRage> hmm wounder if i need to get some drivers or something for my HP vs19x flatpanel tft, or if it works outta the box
[01:14] <DanaG> You just need the scan ranges.
[01:15] <nu> FuriousRage: i have that exact same monitor
[01:15] <ardchoille> nu: gnome terminal?  launch gnome terminal as:  gnome-terminal --geometry 90x40 or some size that you like.
[01:15] <FuriousRage> nu: in windows i can see that upper left corner is darker then lower right, same on yours or is mine "broken"? ;>
[01:15] <nu> FuriousRage: yours is broken
[01:16] <nu> FuriousRage: =( lol
[01:16] <FuriousRage> in  ubuntu i cant really tell tho ;>
[01:16] <nu> FuriousRage: this is ficiton btw. we talked yesterday i think
[01:16] <nu> ardchoille: no, im using xterm
[01:16] <FuriousRage> nu: ya, was in here all day trying to get my nforce 4 nic to work with any linux ;>
[01:16] <nu> FuriousRage: lol
[01:17] <ardchoille> nu: read man xterm and see if there is a "geometry" setting in there
[01:17] <ardchoille> lol
[01:17] <troytroy> linuxd00d: ok am rebboting think problem is solved now brb
[01:17] <owen_> I need help installing java through the repositories
[01:18] <nu> ardchoille: alright. will do. thanks
[01:18] <NZvip> How do I tell my Ubuntu to stop launching Rhythmbox when I insert my iPod?
[01:18] <owen_> what command  do i use to install java?
[01:18] <cpk2> !sunjava
[01:18] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[01:18] <NZvip> Cause frankly, it is freaking annoying.
[01:18] <valehru> Dodzey, ...working perfectly
[01:18] <valehru> Dodzey, thanks for your help
[01:18] <owen_> thank you
[01:18] <Dodzey> valehru: cool
[01:18] <nu> also, is there a program that detects keyboard inputs and show their values? i wanna set some of my keyboard's navigation buttons as some shortcuts. Gnome detected it fine, but not xfce
[01:19] <Dodzey> valehru: np, make use of that 300gb and backup your backup haha, can neer have too many backups
[01:19] <FuriousRage> oh btw, how can i change the settings for my mouse so middle (scroll) = double click? now it seams to send active program to the back
[01:19] <Dodzey> never*
[01:19] <valehru> Dodzey, yeah...well...Im going to invest in a second 300GB and get a nice Raid up and running
[01:20] <valehru> Dodzey, If one Raid disk goes down does that mean I still lose all the data?
[01:20] <salah> what tool should I use to burn a avi/mpg file to a DVD? the mpg files don't have any copy protectio
[01:20] <Dodzey> valehru: it depends what RAID you use
[01:20] <valehru> 0?
[01:20] <kyle_> whats a good program for downloading mp3s with Ubuntu?
[01:20] <FuriousRage> itunes?
[01:21] <Dodzey> valehru: yeah, if one goes down you'll loose the lot
[01:21] <chombee> Hey folks - what package do I need to be able to burn OGG files with gnomebaker?
[01:21] <gekko`> kyle_: limewire
[01:21] <kyle_> limewire
[01:21] <kyle_> cool thanks
[01:22] <DanaG> hmm, shortcuts?
[01:22] <DanaG> Look into lineak
[01:22] <DanaG> lineakd
[01:22] <DanaG> argh, I can't figure out how to change my KDE style to match my GTK.
[01:22] <valehru> hmm...well...RAID 1 it will have to be
[01:23] <RunUO22748> what would make for an easier PrintServer Samba or CUPS?
[01:23] <Dodzey> valehru: you should maybe use the RAID that lets you use two 300gb's and it writes to both disks at the same time, you only get 300gb instead of 600 but it means you have safety
[01:23] <skymox> http://arbs2day.com/files/lebanon.htm
[01:23] <DanaG> ooh, here's a nice thing to do: sudo bash.
[01:23] <skymox> the war :s
[01:23] <Dodzey> valehru - yeah RAID 1 i think, i can't remember haha
[01:23] <Dodzey> valehru here - http://www.acnc.com/04_01_02.html
[01:24] <Dodzey> valehru: wrong link :) http://www.acnc.com/04_01_01.html
[01:24] <lmosher> Physical security isn't a concern for my laptop, but making things simple for my wife is... Is there a way to make the login screen look more like windows? I.E. just click a picture and you log in?
[01:24] <Dodzey> valehru: there you go
[01:24] <DanaG> Is there any way to get rid of the wobbly but keep the window snapping?
[01:24] <valehru> Dodzey, thanks a million
[01:24] <jmichaelx> skymox: may God have mercy on us....
[01:25] <RunUO22748> what would make for an easier PrintServer Samba or CUPS?
[01:26] <Dodzey> valehru: np RAID always confused me, i should probably read that myself...haha
[01:26] <urakaipa> hello there i'm really in trouble.. there's some expert in partition table recovery?
[01:26] <DanaG> Oh, I have done some.
[01:26] <DanaG> Try a utility called Ultimate Boot CD.
[01:26] <valehru> Dodzey, lol....yeah ... I never looked into it myself...but its a nice solution
[01:27] <DanaG> There's one utility (I forget the name) that says "partition saving and recovery"
[01:27] <ardchoille> partimage?
[01:28] <ardchoille> !partimage
[01:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about partimage - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:28] <Dodzey> valehru : someone set up a software based RAID array using usb floppy disk drives, i think i read about it on hack-a-day
[01:28] <DanaG> No, it was something similar to checkdisk, but not quite.
[01:28] <[LON] FoxiMaxi> Hi, I hope someone can help me here. I am trying to install Ubuntu 6.06 on an Acer 4102WLMI (widescreen ATI X700) notebook. When I select Install or Run Ubuntu in the boot screen, everything is okay until the gdm starts. Instead of a desktop, I got a blank (black) screen and nothing happens. I can work without problems in the console, so only the X has some problems. Can someone help ? PM me, plea
[01:28] <[LON] FoxiMaxi> se if you can.
[01:28] <eternaljoy> were there any Dapper updates released in the last 24 hours, eg, gstreamer?
[01:29] <nu> anyone know where the conky config file is by any chance?
[01:29] <urakaipa> thx DanaG but in fact it seems to be hard: I had a reiserfs for my home, it was behind a software raid1
[01:29] <livingdaylig> ok, Guys, got this new monitor but now it wont let the screensaver kick in, wazzup with that?
[01:30] <urakaipa> because of windows, the partition table completely change and i'm not able to scan the drive for searching the old filesystem
[01:30] <nemlah> Hello all
[01:30] <nemlah> i tried changing from gnome to kde
[01:31] <nemlah> but i am having some screen problems
[01:31] <urakaipa> it seems that because of the raid, the filesystem header was not phisically written on the disk
[01:31] <nemlah> in kde i can pane my view
[01:31] <FuriousRage> hmm, wounder when my gpu fan is gonna spin down like it does in windows when its not used by a game or so
[01:31] <nemlah> like i am viewing a smaller portion of the overall larger then my monitor view
[01:32] <dario314> Hi guys. Mine is not so much an Ubuntu problem as a GRUB problem. "GRUB hard disk error," probably because the BIOS doesn't support more than 8GB and there are no BIOS updates.
[01:32] <Dr_Willis> dario314,  ya could put the /boot partition on the very start of the hard drive. below cylinder 1023  (i think) may help
[01:32] <dario314> Can I load Ubuntu with LILO?
[01:33] <Dr_Willis> Or ya could install LILO perhaps.. but not sure if that will help
[01:33] <dario314> I tried that. I have a 100MB /boot at the start of the drive.
[01:33] <owen_> what is a good p2p filesharing network client (not torrents) that I can install using apt-get install?
[01:33] <Dr_Willis> if the /boot thing dont work - Im thinking ya got some other issues..
[01:33] <scrappy_> owen_: frostwire or amule are most popular i think
[01:33] <livingdaylig> Hi, Guys, mine is not so much an Ubuntu problem as a monitor problem. I got a new monitor (videoseven 19"tft) but now the screensaver doesn't work like it used to
[01:33] <Dr_Willis> or it maybe over cylinder 1023
[01:33] <eternaljoy> I did an update today, and it tells me I need to update  base-files cupsys cupsys-bsd cupsys-client gstreamer0.10-alsa etc. Is that correct?
[01:33] <owen_> alright, thank you
[01:34] <dario314> Can I check that somehow? I just made /boot at the start of the drive, just 100MB
[01:34] <Dr_Willis> fdisk the drive and see what cylinders the partitions are on.
[01:34] <Dr_Willis> sudo fdisk -l
[01:34] <livingdaylig> Can someone comment or advise me on the monitor situation?
[01:34] <Dr_Willis> 'doesn't work like it used to'  is vague.
[01:35] <livingdaylig> Does the screensaver function not work on modern monitors?
[01:35] <livingdaylig> bruceWillis, any idea?
[01:35] <lmosher> Physical security isn't a concern for my laptop, but making things simple for my wife is... Is there a way to make the login screen look more like windows? I.E. just click a picture and you log in?
[01:35] <Dodzey> livingdaylig: it may be your monitor switching to standby before the screensaver comes on
[01:36] <livingdaylig> Dodzey: hmmm...what can i do about that?
[01:36] <scrappy_> lmosher: sudo gdmsetup
[01:36] <agliodbs> FYI: I just tried to use Ubuntu's RAID paritioner.  I'm going back to SuSE
[01:36] <Dr_Willis> lmosher,  gdm has options for auto logging in and so on. check the gdm control panel thing. perhaps.
[01:36] <Dodzey> livingdaylig: ie, having a 20minute standby but only having screensaver after 25mins would obviously act wierd
[01:36] <scrappy_> lmosher: google for gdm themes you can prob find a windows one :)
[01:36] <[Wiebel] > hmm
[01:36] <[Wiebel] > how can I enable framebuffer in ubuntu ?
[01:36] <[Wiebel] > I don't have /dev/fb0 now
[01:36] <Dr_Willis> [Wiebel] ,  it should of been enabled by default
[01:37] <Dodzey> livingdaylig: how long do you have to leave your monitor before it goes into standby?
[01:37] <[Wiebel] > Dr_Willis: I disabled the splash screen
[01:37] <[Wiebel] > on boot
[01:37] <davey_> wiebel, it's a kernal command
[01:37] <lmosher> scrappy_, Dr_Willis I was playing with that... but the thing is I need two users :(
[01:37] <livingdaylig> about 5 mins
[01:37] <Dr_Willis> [Wiebel] ,  with nosplash?
[01:37] <[Wiebel] > davey_: module you mean?
[01:37] <[Wiebel] > Dr_Willis: no
[01:37] <[Wiebel] > removing the grub line
[01:37] <[Wiebel] > let me see
[01:37] <davey_> wiebel, just go to grub and change your boot to have fb in it
[01:37] <delaney> will livecds for ubuntu 5.10 run on an intel macbook?
[01:37] <[Wiebel] > davey_: how exactly?
[01:38] <davey_> and if you want no spsh put "nospash"
[01:38] <[Wiebel] > kernel          /vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-686 root=/dev/hda9 ro quiet splash
[01:38] <livingdaylig> Dodzey: about 5mins which is how it is set on screensaver in System/Preference/Screensaver
[01:38] <davey_> hit e when you see the line of the kernel
[01:38] <[Wiebel] > I removed the "splash" line
[01:38] <Dodzey> livingdaylig: goto system >> prefs >> power management and set your standby to something sensible, whatever you want, then set your screensaver delay to something less than that
[01:38] <lmosher> scrappy_, Dr_Willis, I suppose I -could- have it auto login for her in like 10 secs so I'd have to enter my user/pw, but for my particular needs the "windows" way is actually better. Is that not possible?
[01:38] <davey_> woene;. tjat wpm't woprk
[01:38] <davey_> webel, you have to tell it specificaly nospash
[01:38] <[Wiebel] > ok
[01:38] <[Wiebel] > instead of splash?
[01:38] <davey_> right
[01:38] <Dodzey> livingdaylig: its the "put display to sleep when the computer is innactive for :" option
[01:39] <livingdaylig> Dodzey: ok, but just to say, it wasn't an issue before on my preious monitor, so...
[01:39] <scrappy_> lmosher: something like this? http://gnomesupport.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1232&sid=f39933bbf793e08e67a1e617dd5a11e9
[01:39] <Dodzey> livingdaylig: not really sure then...sorry
[01:39] <owen_> what is a shortcut to open the terminal window?
[01:39] <davey_> can someone tell me about the program inkspape, I can't seem to figure it out, i know it's off toppic but I really just need help finding how to change a style, something very simpl,e i've read most of the inkscape wiki and the top pages on google and asked on the inkcape channel 5 times with no responce if anyone knows please tell me
[01:40] <[Wiebel] > davey_: bootsplash = framebuffer, right?
[01:40] <davey_> wiebel, to be honest I have just disabled it before
[01:40] <livingdaylig> Dodzey: its set to 30mins, but it goes off after 5 when the screensaver should kick in
[01:40] <davey_> I have used "nofb" to get ti not to load so I figured it would be fb
[01:41] <lmosher> scrappy_, yeah I'll keep looking - apparently some themes have that. thanks :)
[01:41] <[Wiebel] > hmm hmm
[01:41] <Dodzey> livingdaylig: into standby?
[01:41] <DanaG> Oh, for the auto-login....
[01:41] <davey_> I've spent over an hour reading the wiki and i still can't remove a border on the pen tool... this is rediculose, I don't know how anyone can learn these new programs.
[01:41] <DanaG> Try using the "classic with face browser" and then make a passwordless login.
[01:41] <livingdaylig> Dodzey: yes
[01:41] <urakaipa> hi there, some expert in partition recovery/disk scan and so on?
[01:41] <Dr_Willis> lmosher,  no idea.. my wife can handle the idea of typing in her name. :P or clicking on her icon.
[01:41] <davey_> urakaipa, whats your problem
[01:42] <Dr_Willis> lmosher,  or ya could make her user not have any password.
[01:42] <Dodzey> livingdaylig: thats odd....checked your monitors menu for any daft settings?
[01:42] <livingdaylig> Dodzey: don't know what to check for?
[01:42] <Dodzey> livingdayligim not sure why they would affect that though
[01:42] <Dodzey> livingdaylig hmm.....try a different screensaver
[01:43] <davey_> livindayligim, may have a 3d graphics problem
[01:43] <davey_> livingdayligim, are you on ati?
[01:43] <Dodzey> livingdaylig if your using a GL screensaver try another
[01:43] <livingdaylig> davey_: i have integrated graphics onboard
[01:43] <Linuturk> !LAMP
[01:43] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[01:44] <lmosher> Dr_Willis, clicking on icon is what I'm going for :P
[01:44] <Dodzey> livingdaylig intel integrated?
[01:44] <davey_> livingdaylig, the chip is still made by someone, go to terminal and type glxgears
[01:44] <[Wiebel] > still no /dev/fb0 :(
[01:44] <livingdaylig> davey_: as i was saying it used to work no problem with my previous monitor
[01:44] <Linuturk> are those lamp packages upto date?
[01:44] <Linuturk> the most recent?
[01:44] <davey_> wiebel, if you really want it , you can reconfig  your graphics card and hit yes to that question if you have time
[01:45] <Dodzey> livingdaylig updated since?
[01:45] <[Wiebel] > davey_: how can I do that?
[01:45] <livingdaylig> davey_: i don't have 3d graphics so don't work
[01:45] <davey_> wiebel, 2 ways eather edit your xserver.conf with nano or use the graphicals one
[01:45] <[Wiebel] > davey_: i'm not going to use Xorg with framebuffer
[01:45] <davey_> livingdaylig, then unfortunatly you can not run open gl screensavers
[01:46] <davey_> wiebel? what are you using then?
[01:46] <Plouj> yo
[01:46] <[Wiebel] > some app which is using /dev/fb0 directly
[01:46] <Plouj> is this what your boot loader looks like, guys? http://sh.nu/p/2595
[01:46] <davey_> xfreesomething or other stuff?
[01:46] <[Wiebel] > I have it on an boot cd
[01:46] <[Wiebel] > other stuff
[01:46] <[Wiebel] > the boot cd is linux 2.4
[01:46] <[Wiebel] > with viafb
[01:46] <[Wiebel] > works like a charm
[01:46] <DanaG> WTF?  Shift-backspace kills X?
[01:46] <livingdaylig> davey_: well it was before on the previous monitor, at least some of the screensavers
[01:46] <[Wiebel] > can't get it to work on ubuntu though
[01:47] <livingdaylig> Dodzey: update, sure
[01:47] <DanaG> Oh, and all of my consoles are completely black.
[01:47] <davey_> weibel, humm.... all I know is that you can sudo dpackage reconfigure (something like that) but I think it only works with xorg
[01:47] <DanaG> And I can't find any good QT themes to fit in with Human.
[01:47] <davey_> livingdaylig, sometimes the monitors arn't picked up in linux, the diffrentce in what you set it up as and what it uses
[01:47] <Dodzey> livingdaylig it might well be 3d related as davey said, maybe an update broke your 3d drivers
[01:48] <superm1> could someone think of a non-ubuntu live disk that allows installation of packages to just test out - say lirc?  I don't have a hard drive on this machine, and need to verify whether I have an ubuntu related problem or lirc related problem
[01:48] <davey_> dodzey, he doens't have 3d I think he just wants 2d screensavers but the monirot won't let him if I undrstand correctly
[01:48] <livingdaylig> davey_: that correct
[01:48] <Dodzey> davey_:okay, sorry, i got dc'd missed a bit of the conv
[01:49] <DanaG> I know on my desktop (not my current machine), I had to manually specify scan rates.
[01:49] <davey_> livingdaylig, ok I think it has to do with the configed resolution and/or the flicker rate that your graphics card is sendig to your monitor
[01:49] <urakaipa> hi davey_ the problem is that windows modified the partition table and i lost all my linux partitions which were behind singles software raid (made with mdadm)
[01:49] <sethk> software raid isn't really raid.  obviously, here.
[01:49] <urakaipa> i start scanning the drives with gpart but no one of these partition comes up
[01:49] <DanaG> It picked up the Viewsonic P95F+ as a P95F, which actually has a higher scan range (I guess the + means cheaper.)
[01:49] <livingdaylig> davey_: arf...
[01:50] <Linuturk> you can't define which screensavers are not included in random anymore?
[01:50] <sethk> DanaG, I've never made sense out of the viewsonic numbers, but I think some of them are cosmetic differences.
[01:50] <davey_> urakaipa, ic, the data is still there just not visible... unfortunatly I am not an expert on that , BUt I can tell you try to lay off the use of that drive in the affect you might corrupt your data, sorry I can't be of help but there are companies that can fix that for you but make sure you spefify it's a linux partition if you really need the tata
[01:50] <sethk> DanaG, although that wouldn't seem to apply here.
[01:51] <ehazlett> would anyone like to try out a live cd creator?  i am looking for some feedback...
[01:52] <jmichaelx> in many cases, when i try to view embedded streaming video, i can get the audio, but where the video should be, i just have a black box that says 'no picture'. would anyone have an idea what i need to do to get this fixed?
[01:52] <Dodzey> ehazlett....possibly, ill have some freetime tommorow...
[01:52] <davey_> ehazlett, alright, I'll try ti out later on email me some time antigenic
[01:52] <sethk> ehazlett, sure
[01:52] <davey_> @ gmail ,com
[01:52] <urakaipa> yep sethk, but as far as i know could be that the filesystem header was different that the real one (0xfd for software raid) and i think that software like gpart canno scan for this
[01:52] <A[D] minS> how i can install all amsn-deps
[01:52] <nathanial> hello folks. A little help please.
[01:52] <A[D] minS> ?
[01:53] <sethk> urakaipa, that's possible.  It would be easy enough to change that byte, and also easy to look at it.
[01:53] <davey_> admins, quick question did you try apt-get or synaptic
[01:53] <Dodzey> ehazlett : dodzey [at]  gmail.com
[01:53] <nathanial> I'm using easyUbuntu to install my media/NVIDIA/etc. packages.
[01:53] <Dodzey> nathanial : whats up?
[01:53] <davey_> I'm going to go all bye
[01:54] <nathanial> and I'm getting an "error. fix broken packages first" when trying to install the "Videos: Enable viewing videos embedded in webpages with totem"
[01:54] <A[D] minS> devhen: i want to compile last amsn_dev
[01:54] <ehazlett> cool...  for anyone who is interested...  http://reconstructor.aperantis.com  thanks...
[01:54] <Dodzey> hmm.....have you already tried installing totem codecs?
[01:54] <A[D] minS> thats why want to install only dep packages like tcl-dev
[01:54] <eigenlambda> nathanial: that would probably happen if you were trying to install anything, right?
[01:54] <nathanial> no. everything else was fine.
[01:55] <nathanial> this is the only 'package' I can't install
[01:55] <nathanial> Dodzey, I do have totem installed.
[01:55] <sethk> nathanial, that doesn't matter, unless after seeing the error you've tried to install something else
[01:55] <sethk> nathanial, because the most recent install may have corrupted the database
[01:55] <sethk> nathanial, or may not have completed properly
[01:55] <nathanial> therefore??
[01:55] <nathanial> what is a walkaround?
[01:56] <sethk> nathanial, therefore, try to install something else, to see if it is a general problem or really specific to that package
[01:56] <eigenlambda> try `dpkg -l | grep -v ii`
[01:56] <sethk> nathanial, you mean workaround?  there is a dpkg command to repair the errors
[01:56] <eigenlambda> see what isn't fully installed
[01:56] <nathanial> how to go about doing that?
[01:56] <sethk> nathanial, start with what eigenlambda just said
[01:57] <budluva> anyone here had any luck installing qtorrent?
[01:57] <budluva> i think its a broken package, and it's telling me to file a bug, how do i do that?
[01:57] <nathanial> I can install other programs. It seems to be specific to this one option.
[01:57] <Dr_Willis> budluva,  qtorrent just installed for me.
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> budluva,  and it runs
[01:58] <sethk> nathanial, ok.  eigenlambda's command doesn't show anything wrong?
[01:58] <nathanial> I'm not sure how to run that command.
[01:58] <Dodzey> paste it into a terminal
[01:58] <eigenlambda> open a terminal window
[01:58] <eigenlambda> and copy and paste
[01:59] <urakaipa> sethk the problem is that i don't have the partition listed no more
[01:59] <bbt> anyone know where i can get a k8-smp kernel package for 32bit mode ?
[02:00] <DanaG> !easyubuntu
[02:00] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[02:00] <DanaG> What is it?
[02:00] <sethk> urakaipa, yes, I know, but if you know where the partition was (the starting and ending sectors) the partition table is easy to fix
[02:00] <Dodzey> anyway, its late (or early! depending on how you look at it) and im tired, so im gonna go...cya
[02:00] <DanaG> Oh, I remember what the utility was called.
[02:00] <budluva> Dr_Willis: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[02:00] <budluva>   qtorrent: Depends: python-qt3 but it is not installable
[02:00] <budluva> E: Broken packages
[02:00] <DanaG> TestDisk.
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> budluva,  it installed that for me.
[02:01] <budluva> bah
[02:01] <Dr_Willis> Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main python-qt3 3.15.1-0ubuntu3 [44.2kB] 
[02:01] <urakaipa> sethk how can i fix it? because gpart was not able to list me useful partitions (just old ones)
[02:01] <sethk> budluva, the problem is why python-qt3 is not installable.
[02:01] <Dr_Willis> budluva,  could be the  the servers are down.
[02:01] <sethk> urakaipa, you dump the mbr and use a hex editor
[02:01] <nathanial> i'm sorry. Maybe i'm doing this wrong. I'm getting a > prompt
[02:01] <sethk> urakaipa, the partitions are the last four groups of 16 bytes in the mbr
[02:01] <sethk> urakaipa, you can also use fdisk to fix it
[02:02] <eigenlambda> oh
[02:02] <nathanial> nevermind. got it.
[02:02] <nathanial> :)
[02:02] <sethk> urakaipa, you can use fdisk to create the partition.  you give it the starting and ending sector numbers.  fdisk does not touch the partition, only the partition table in the mbr.
[02:02] <urakaipa> sethk could you please tell me some of these commands?
[02:02] <urakaipa> ah okay
[02:02] <nathanial> i'm not understanding my output.
[02:03] <nathanial> Desire=unknown/install/remove/purge/hold. . . .
[02:03] <teluride> Hi.. have a question on the updates... Is there an easy way to get a list of packages that were last updated?
[02:03] <budluva> another question...
[02:03] <urakaipa> but in this case i don't know the exact sector number
[02:03] <budluva> am i gonna notice frame drops in true combat: elite if im running in xgl/compiz?
[02:04] <DanaG> Try that TestDisk utility on UBCD.
[02:04] <sethk> urakaipa, that's of course a problem.  if the rest of the partition table is intact, then you can figure out the starting and ending sectors
[02:04] <DanaG> I just don't know if it can handle RAID.
[02:04] <salah> how do I check which codec a video file have?
[02:04] <Kyral> file
[02:04] <Kyral> file <media file>
[02:04] <sethk> urakaipa, say partition one ends at 1000, and partition three starts at 2000, then you would know that partition 2 starts at 1001 and ends at 1999.
[02:04] <sethk> urakaipa, obviously I made those numbers up, but you get the idea, hopefully
[02:05] <Mr_Awesome> hi, i just installed ubuntu, but when i boot into it the screen just displays a random pattern of colors
[02:05] <urakaipa> sethk the problem is that more the one partition is missing, that's why i tried scanning the drive with gpart
[02:06] <Mr_Awesome> any idea whats wrong?
[02:06] <sethk> urakaipa, and gpart didn't find all the partitions except one?
[02:06] <DanaG> http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[02:06] <sethk> Mr_Awesome, you fed some mushrooms to your computer?
[02:07] <DanaG> LVM and LVM2, Linux Logical Volume Manager
[02:07] <DanaG> Linux Raid
[02:07] <urakaipa> sethk, gpart did not find anything of the latest partitions, just old configuration
[02:07] <Mr_Awesome> sethk: i knew i should have ate them myself
[02:07] <DanaG> TestDisk can find lost partitions for all of these file systems:
[02:07] <teluride> Hi.. have a question on the updates... Is there an easy way to get a list of packages that were last updated?
[02:07] <sethk> urakaipa, too bad.  then you are down to scanning yourself.  I have some programs I wrote to scan, but to use them you would need to know the signatures used in the software raid file system.
[02:07] <Mr_Awesome> could it be my video card? its an evga geforce 6600 le
[02:08] <sethk> urakaipa, I'm a bit surprised that the partition doesn't appear to be a normal linux partition to software unaware of software raid
[02:08] <anaUbuntu> Hello??
[02:08] <sethk> urakaipa, but as I said I'm no expert on software raid
[02:08] <eigenlambda> anaUbuntu: hello
[02:08] <urakaipa> DanaG thx i'm looking right now
[02:08] <DanaG> It's on Ultimate Boot CD, too.
[02:08] <linuxd00d> troytroy: are you still here
[02:09] <[Wiebel] > hmm
[02:09] <DanaG> It's about 1 or 2 pages in, under Filesystem tools.
[02:09] <minimec> Mr_Awesome: Seems to be the card. Does it have two sreen outputs?
[02:09] <[Wiebel] > autoconf.h should be in linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386 right?
[02:09] <sethk> [Wiebel] , I doubt it
[02:09] <minimec> Mr_Awesome: screen
[02:09] <urakaipa> i'm running on ubuntu livecd, i prefer not to install any os until partitions wont come up
[02:09] <[Wiebel] > sethk: packages.ubuntulinux.org sais so
[02:09] <[Wiebel] > says so
[02:10] <Mr_Awesome> minimec: i think it can have two outputs
[02:10] <[Wiebel] > usr/include/linux/autoconf.h    devel/linux-kernel-headers
[02:10] <sethk> [Wiebel] , on my box it is in the "autoconf" package.
[02:10] <Mr_Awesome> but its not set that way
[02:10] <anaUbuntu> Hello eigenlambda
[02:10] <Frankenstein> hi, i recently got this older pc it's a Pentium 2 300Mhz etc... i put in the install cd and it boots off of it and goes through a startup BUT it will keep flashing my monitor like crazy!  how can i get it to go into install?
[02:10] <sethk> [Wiebel] , I see what you are looking at, and I can't explain it, but try installing autoconf
[02:10] <[Wiebel] > sethk: what version?
[02:10] <minimec> Mr_Awesome: ok... wait a moment. I have to remember something ...
[02:10] <nathanial> hi folks. another question again.
[02:10] <sethk> [Wiebel] , wait, let me make sure I didn't misread this
[02:10] <[Wiebel] > ack
[02:10] <nathanial> I can't seem to play commercial DVD's
[02:11] <nathanial> error message pops up saying that it can't be read. Either I don't have permission, or there is no disc in drive.
[02:11] <sethk> [Wiebel] , sorry, I had found autoconf.html, not autoconf.h.
[02:11] <[Wiebel] > :)
[02:11] <sethk> [Wiebel] , I do show it in linux-headers
[02:11] <nathanial> I should change permission on my DVD?
[02:11] <DanaG> !libdvdcss
[02:11] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:11] <DanaG> First.
[02:11] <[Wiebel] > sethk: i have linux-headers installed
[02:11] <[Wiebel] > no autoconf.h
[02:11] <nathanial> yes. I installed that.
[02:11] <sethk> [Wiebel] , I see it in linux-kernel-headers
[02:11] <[Wiebel] > ii  linux-kernel-headers                   2.6.11.2-0ubuntu18    Linux Kernel Headers for development
[02:11] <nathanial> Danag. I installed that thanks!
[02:11] <sethk> [Wiebel] , have you installed linux-kernel-headers?
[02:12] <nathanial> DanaG but still no luck.
[02:12] <sethk> [Wiebel] , ok,
[02:12] <minimec> Mr_Awesome: Ok! Start your computer in recovery mode
[02:12] <[Wiebel] > let me do a reinstall
[02:12] <sethk> [Wiebel] , wait
[02:12] <[Wiebel] > hmm?
[02:12] <minimec> Mr_Awesome: tell me when you're done
[02:12] <sethk> [Wiebel] , I notice that the one installed by linux-kernel-headers is just a file to force a compilation error
[02:12] <Mr_Awesome> minimec: this is the computer
[02:12] <Frankenstein> hi, i recently got this older pc it's a Pentium 2 300Mhz etc... i put in the install cd and it boots off of it and goes through a startup BUT it will keep flashing my monitor like crazy!  how can i get it to go into install?  i also cant boot off the live cd, it keeps flashing the screen at me
[02:12] <Mr_Awesome> minimec: im dual booting winxp
[02:12] <[Wiebel] > sethk: hmmz
[02:12] <[Wiebel] > that's not good
[02:12] <sethk> [Wiebel] , the real one is in linux-headers-2.6......
[02:13] <[Wiebel] > sethk: installed that one as well
[02:13] <[Wiebel] > ii  linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386            2.6.15-26.46    Linux kernel headers 2.6.15 on 386
[02:13] <minimec> Mr_Awesome: start it with ubuntu in recovery mode
[02:13] <Mr_Awesome> minimec: and then what?
[02:13] <[Wiebel] > /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386/include/linux/autoconf.h
[02:13] <[Wiebel] > ah
[02:14] <jmichaelx> in many cases, when i try to view embedded streaming video, i can get the audio, but where the video should be, i just have a black box that says 'no picture'. would anyone have an idea what i need to do to get this fixed?
[02:14] <sethk> [Wiebel] , that path looks like the correct (real) one
[02:14] <minimec> Mr_Awesome: then you do a 'lspci' to veryfy the number of your graphic card like 1:0:0
[02:14] <[Wiebel] > uhuh
[02:15] <minimec> Mr_Awesome: then open /etc/X11/xorg.conf and compare the numbers...
[02:15] <sethk> [Wiebel] , let's back up.  what problem are you experiencing that pointed you at autoconf.h?
[02:15] <Mr_Awesome> minimec: how do i do that? is recovery a command line?
[02:15] <minimec> Mr_Awesome: yes
[02:15] <Iskander> Hey, anybody here play Call of Duty on Ubuntu Using Wine, and have sound lag?
[02:15] <dibblego> when I try to do a apt-get upgrade, I am getting a 404 on for example  http://au.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main
[02:15] <degreez> can someone please help me with mounting the vmware tools package inside ubuntu (as guest os)
[02:15] <Mr_Awesome> minimec: heh, ok ill try
[02:15] <minimec> Mr_Awesome: i will stay here for a moment
[02:15] <dibblego> degreez, there are instructions on the vmware website
[02:15] <Mr_Awesome> minimec: thanks for the advice
[02:16] <[Wiebel] >   CC [M]   /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.15/viafb/viafbdev.o
[02:16] <[Wiebel] > cc1: error: include/linux/autoconf.h: No such file or directory
[02:16] <degreez> i have read the vmware instructions and they dont work, i keep getting errors returned
[02:16] <[Wiebel] > errr ?
[02:16] <[Wiebel] > wtf?
[02:16] <nu> guys. if im running xfce desktop, would it be ok to install Fluxbux?
[02:16] <nu> fluxbox*
[02:16] <dibblego> degreez, works for me, what errors?
[02:16] <willys_fueguino> theres some wma player that comes on the alternativge cd?
[02:16] <[Wiebel] > I just put the file in the right place
[02:16] <dealahog> yes nu
[02:16] <[Wiebel] > and it still complains
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> nu,  iinstall all sorts of window managers.. it dont matter. :P
[02:16] <Iskander> Hello, Can someone tell me how to edit the Wine Configuration file?
[02:16] <sethk> [Wiebel] , what does it say?
[02:17] <[Wiebel] > sethk: what exactly?
[02:17] <nu> Dr_Willis: lol, thanks
[02:17] <nu> Ok guys. thank you. will do
[02:17] <nu> i have two amazing screenshots here. trying to decide which one i want mine ot look like
[02:17] <sethk> [Wiebel] , you said it complains after you moved it into /usr/include/linux....
[02:17] <[Wiebel] > sethk: see my paste above
[02:17] <willys_fueguino> theres some wma player that comes on the alternative cd?
[02:17] <willys_fueguino> theres a wma player that comes on the alternative cd?
[02:17] <sethk> [Wiebel] , can you paste the url again?  it is a long way up
[02:18] <[Wiebel] >   CC [M]   /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.15/viafb/viafbdev.o
[02:18] <[Wiebel] > cc1: error: include/linux/autoconf.h: No such file or directory
[02:18] <Frankenstein> so could anyone help me with this?
[02:18] <sethk> [Wiebel] , you are building the kernel?
[02:18] <sethk> must be,
[02:18] <[Wiebel] > sethk: kernel modules
[02:18] <[Wiebel] > -s
[02:18] <sethk> [Wiebel] , right, same thing for this purpose
[02:18] <[Wiebel] > uhuh
[02:19] <sethk> so /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.15.include/linux/autoconf.h exists?
[02:19] <[Wiebel] > sethk: and /usr/include/linux/autoconf.h as well
[02:19] <sethk> 15/include, not 15.include
[02:19] <[Wiebel] > i copied them there
[02:19] <Iskander> can anyone here help me edit my wine config file????????????????
[02:19] <elamericano> does anyone here use Dia?
[02:19] <sethk> [Wiebel] , you should not have had to copy them.
[02:19] <sethk> [Wiebel] , so something is still screwy
[02:20] <nrdb> I am looking for the cups-devel package where can I find it?
[02:20] <[Wiebel] > hmm
[02:20] <nu> after i install fluxbox, i just logout, and choose it in the Session before logging in, correct?
[02:20] <[Wiebel] > I thing I know
[02:20] <willys_fueguino> theres a wma player that comes on the alternative cd?
[02:20] <sethk> [Wiebel] , the problem has to be that a -I does not point to the root of your compilation tree, but why that is I can't say.
[02:20] <Schumi> can anyone help me with compiling, I get an error when I try to run a ./config, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19733
[02:20] <sethk> [Wiebel] , what?
[02:20] <nu> well, correct or not here i goi
[02:21] <sethk> Schumi, did you install developer-essential?
[02:21] <willys_fueguino> theres a wma player that comes on the alternative cd?
[02:21] <Schumi> I installed the newest gcc
[02:21] <Schumi> i didn't speciafically install developer-essential
[02:21] <sethk> Schumi, then probably you are trying to build in a directory that isn't writable for your user
[02:21] <[Wiebel] > CFLAGS += -I$(KSRC)/include -I. -Wstrict-prototypes -fomit-frame-pointer
[02:22] <sethk> Schumi, you can move it to a directory where you have privileges, or try   sudo ./configure
[02:22] <Schumi> i did use sudo.. check this out http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19733
[02:22] <Schumi> thats the message.
[02:22] <sethk> [Wiebel] , Schumi ok, paste config.log
[02:22] <[Wiebel] > just a sec
[02:23] <sethk> [Wiebel] , sorry, I put two names on that line  :)
[02:23] <sethk> I meant...
[02:23] <sethk> Schumi, ok, paste config.log
[02:23] <nrdb> I am looking for the cups-devel package where might I find it?
[02:24] <Schumi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19734
[02:24] <[Wiebel] > argh
[02:24] <[Wiebel] > I don't get it
[02:24] <Schumi> i am being told by someone else that I need build-essentials
[02:24] <bruenig> !info libcupsys2-dev
[02:24] <sethk> nrdb, libcupsimage2-dev
[02:24] <ubotu> libcupsys2-dev: Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - development files. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.2.2-0ubuntu0.6.06 (dapper), package size 25 kB, installed size 156 kB
[02:24] <willys_fueguino> someone knows how to configure a Alcatel Speedtouch usb modem??
[02:24] <[Wiebel] > now it breaks on other stuff
[02:24] <sethk> Schumi, let me check.  I asked you about that also.
[02:24] <nu> Well fluxbox didnt work for me
[02:24] <nu> sadness
[02:25] <[Wiebel] > ah
[02:25] <[Wiebel] > it's compiling
[02:25] <[Wiebel] > finaly
[02:25] <Schumi> im running on a slow connection so I'm trying to avoid downloading large installs. the build-essentials is 12MB
[02:25] <sethk> Schumi, they are correct.  part of binutils is missing.  install build-essential, it should take care of that
[02:25] <lmosher> When I'm using Xgl and I hibernate my laptop, when I turn it back on I get graphical glitces above/below the bottom/top gnome panels. Any ideas why or how to fix it?
[02:25] <Schumi> ok, ill bite the bullet. thanks
[02:25] <sethk> Schumi, you need it.  linker files are missing, no way around it.
[02:25] <Schumi> thanks.
[02:25] <[Wiebel] > great
[02:26] <[Wiebel] > load viafb and my screen dies
[02:26] <[Wiebel] > grrrr
[02:26] <sethk> [Wiebel] , hey, you want to be able to compile it AND run it?  That's asking a lot.  :)
[02:26] <[Wiebel] > hehe :P
[02:27] <eternaljoy> how can I install Mozilla-composer?
[02:29] <eternaljoy> whats a good GUI WYSIWYG html editor for Dapper?
[02:30] <linuxd00d> i got xmms working now
[02:30] <bruenig> eternaljoy, i think mozilla-browser has composer with it
[02:30] <bruenig> so sudo apt-get install mozilla-browser
[02:30] <bruenig> eternaljoy, on the WYSIWYG, NVU
 what is the composer for?
[02:30] <bruenig> !info nvu
[02:30] <ubotu> nvu: Complete Web Authoring System. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 8343 kB, installed size 26440 kB
[02:31] <eternaljoy> bruenig: i used to use the Mozilla composer, but Dapper doesnt have it
[02:31] <bruenig> cwraig, I don't know, I just remember installing mozilla-browser and having composer show up in the menus with it
[02:31] <eternaljoy> bruenig: how can I install the mozilla composer?
 if your only after something to put your code in colours i use apt-get install gphpedit
[02:32] <eternaljoy> cwraig: im seeking to edit html pages
 it will read your html code to
[02:32] <eternaljoy> cwraig:  WYSIWYG html editor like mozilla composer
[02:32] <bruenig> eternaljoy, I am telling you if you do 'sudo aptitude install mozilla-browser' it will install composer
[02:33] <eternaljoy> does Dapper have any WYSIWYG html editor like mozilla composer?
 dont go for gphpedit then :P
[02:33] <eternaljoy> bruenig: ok!  any other smaller application that does the same?
[02:33] <linuxd00d> i use a website which requires windows media player to view the videos, how would i view the files
 the age old question
[02:34] <userundefine> eternaljoy, NVU as well
[02:34] <bruenig> linuxd00d, you need to make sure you have w32codecs installed and then, I personally go with mplayer plugin
[02:34] <linuxd00d> well i have xmms will that help at all
[02:34] <owen_> how do you edit your broadbands MTU settings?
[02:34] <eternaljoy> userundefine: NVU is like  WYSIWYG html editor like mozilla composer?
[02:34] <Generic> what's the command to disconnect and reconnect a NIC card?
[02:35] <linuxd00d> and plus the videos are built into the webpages
[02:35] <Generic> I need to renew the ip
[02:35] <Ronz> Generic, sudo ifconfig eth0 down
[02:35] <Ronz> sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[02:35] <Ronz> sudo dhcpcd eth0
[02:35] <userundefine> eternaljoy, yes.  It's actually built with XUL and Gecko, the gui and engine that powers Mozilla
[02:35] <Ronz> =)
[02:35] <cwraig> linuxd00d http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs
[02:35] <Ronz> there may be an easier command though
[02:35] <linuxd00d> cheers cwraig
[02:35] <bruenig> linuxd00d, go here and install the file with gdebi http://debian-multimedia.org.nyud.net:8080/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb, then do 'sudo aptitude install mozilla-mplayer' and that is it
[02:36] <eternaljoy> userundefine: ok ty!   Im installing NVU instead!  btw, I started installing mozilla, but stopped it at 2%!  how can I delete the 2% mozzila installation now from my system?
 this might be worth checking out
[02:37] <bruenig> eternaljoy, sudo apt-get clean
[02:37] <eternaljoy> bruenig: cheers! ty
[02:37] <tbw> Anyone able to get dapper to boot PPC w/ a apple display connector LCD?
it makes things heaps easier for n00bs http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[02:37] <eternaljoy> bruenig: is tahtr the same as if I type sudo apt-get autoclean ?
[02:38] <vick> The acceleration in gxset had a maximuim of 100 which was that what i was using, and changing the threshold in gxset didn't make any diffrence in the mouse movement, it's still moving really slow, is there any other places that i can l ook at ? [ I am using Dell Inspiron 510m ] 
[02:38] <Generic> hmm
[02:38] <Generic> so, lets say that i can only connect to this server remotely
[02:38] <Frankenstein> hi, i can boot off of the ubuntu install cd but i can only go so far before the screen starts flashing, anyone know a solution?
[02:38] <Generic> what would be the best way to renew the ip?
[02:38] <cowmilk2> how can i get some WMA audio files readable by my iPod?
[02:38] <cowmilk2> also, how can i listen to some OGG audio files on my iPod?
[02:38] <bruenig> on the man screen it says autoclean "erases old downloaded archive files" and clean "erases downloaded archive files", whatever the difference is, your guess is as good as mine
[02:39] <tbw> covmilk2: using stocksoftware -- you can't.
 unfortunatelly your ipod wont do either
[02:39] <Nameeater> cowmilk2: do those questions have anything to do with Ubuntu? sounds more like ipod questions
[02:39] <Generic> cowmilk2, try rockbox
[02:39] <tbw> cowmilk2: maybe you should look at rockbox
[02:39] <nu> does anyone know what the "show desktop" program is called in linux?
[02:39] <Generic> if i got that right
[02:39] <nu> so i can add it to my shortcut
 you need to convert them to either mp3 or apple format
[02:39] <tbw> I just want my ADC monitor to work
[02:39] <tbw> damnit
[02:39] <Ronz> nu, it comes w/ gnome
[02:39] <cowmilk2> Generic: tbw, doesn't rockbox mean that my iPod's battery will be drained more quickly-er?
[02:40] <owen_> i start wow.exe with wine, but nothing happens? any suggestions?
[02:40] <[Wiebel] > hmmz
[02:40] <nu> Ronz: i know. i am uzing xfce though. and i need the name of the module so i can add it to shortcut =D
[02:40] <[Wiebel] > I have somekind of a live cd
[02:40] <tbw> cowmilk2: I'm gonna go with #rockbox on this one
[02:40] <Generic> cowmilk2, I think it depends on what your doing in rockbox
[02:40] <[Wiebel] > for an app
[02:40] <nu> so when i press ctrl + ~, everything minimizes
[02:40] <Generic> but I think that's pretty much what occurs
[02:40] <[Wiebel] > is there no way I can run it within ubuntu
[02:40] <[Wiebel] > (not via vmware though)
[02:40] <willys_fueguino> Frankenstein whats exactly the problem?
[02:40] <Ronz> nu, its just "show desktop"
[02:40] <Ronz> lol
[02:40] <nu> let me try lol
[02:41] <nu> it is not =(
[02:41] <Frankenstein> willys_fueguino, i cant install ubutnu... it boots off of the cd and gets to a certian point where it just flashes the screen forever
[02:41] <bruenig> Frankenstein, did you download this file or get it from shipit
[02:41] <Mr_Awesome> minimec: i just realize how much i dont know how to use the command line
[02:42] <cowmilk2> if i convert wma and ogg to mp3 (or any other format the iPod can read), how will the sound quality be?
[02:42] <Frankenstein> bruenig, ive tried three cds two that are from shipit, and one that i burned myself
[02:42] <tbw> cowmilk2: lossy + lossy == LOSSY. ;)
[02:42] <Frankenstein> its an older model, a gateway 2000 if that helps any
[02:42] <minimec> Mr_Awesome: I just relized, that I forgot to tell you something ... :;
[02:42] <Mr_Awesome> minimec: i ran lspci, but i couldnt even decifer what it was telling me
[02:42] <Mr_Awesome> *decipher
[02:43] <Mr_Awesome> minimec: what is that?
[02:43] <tbw> its a list of the devices on your PCI bus
[02:43] <tbw> addresses.. latencies... etc
[02:43] <tbw> etc
[02:43] <bruenig> Frankenstein, how much RAM do you have?
[02:43] <tbw> Mr_Awesome: You'll prolly like lspci -v better.
[02:43] <Frankenstein> bruenig, 64Mb stock
[02:43] <Mr_Awesome> tbw: right, but i didnt know what i was even looking for
[02:44] <Mr_Awesome> tbw: ah i see
[02:44] <minimec> Mr_Awesome: to open the /etc/X11/xorg.conf you have to use 'nano', wich gives 'nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:44] <minimec> Mr_Awesome: to open the /etc/X11/xorg.conf you have to use 'nano', wich gives 'nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[02:44] <bruenig> Frankenstein, that is likely the problem, I think 128 or 256 is necessary, you may want to go with xubuntu which requires less memory
[02:44] <Grav3y4rd> anybodu can help me with a network problem?
[02:44] <Frankenstein> bruenig, what about a server install? i cant even see the prmpt when the cd boots im afraid...
[02:44] <Tauhshi> For some reason, Ubuntu refuses to mount my FAT32 Hard Drive
[02:45] <nu> so no one knows what the Showdesktop thing is called?
[02:45] <Tauhshi> It shows in Natulis
[02:45] <Grav3y4rd>  i need help conecting winxp with ubuntu
[02:45] <Tauhshi> But, when I try to access it, it gives me this error
[02:45] <Mr_Awesome> minimec: thanks again, ill try it out, but what if they dont match?
[02:46] <Tauhshi> error: device /dev/hda2 is not removable
[02:46] <Tauhshi> error: could not execute pmount
[02:46] <bruenig> Frankenstein, that is odd, I don't see why It wouldn't install the server install
[02:47] <minimec> Mr_Awesome: for lspci: my line is 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 If [Radeon 9000]  (rev 01). So xorg.conf wants 1:0:0 ;)
[02:48] <micahcowan> Tauhshi, could you paste the output of the "mount" command, and the contents of /etc/fstab (not directly into the channel, naturally)/
[02:48] <degreez> hey whats the command to get into root in terminal?
[02:48] <sproingie> degreez: sudo
[02:48] <FuriousRage> degreez, sudo -i
[02:48] <micahcowan> degreez, sudo -i, if you want an interactive shell.
[02:48] <aujordanh> anybody know of an app that will let me listen to my xm radio account?
[02:48] <aujordanh> asside form the online player
[02:48] <Mr_Awesome> minimec: so am i changing xorg.conf or just viewing it?
[02:49] <oblx> hello. any experience with sagem 800 (usb modem) in dapper?
[02:49] <Tauhshi> Micah: Then where would you like me to put it?
[02:49] <degreez> whats an interactive shell?
[02:49] <micahcowan> !paste
[02:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:49] <harkins> I've got an ext3 drive that passes 'e2fsck -f' cleanly but has 19G less free space than the files can account for. wtf? Where'd it go?
[02:49] <micahcowan> Tauhshi,  ^^
[02:49] <linuxd00d> can someone post a site with w32codecs
[02:49] <srhegde> Hello there
[02:49] <Tauhshi> Oh, ok ^^'
[02:49] <srhegde> Need some help with newly installed Ubuntu
[02:49] <minimec> Mr_Awesome: you can change xorg.conf, because you're using the nano software, witch is a text editor for console.
[02:49] <degreez> i get it, thanks
[02:50] <Mr_Awesome> minimec: ah i see, thank you very much
[02:50] <Snufj> mornings
[02:50] <Grav3y4rd> could anybody help me with Ubuntu?
[02:50] <userundefine> !ask > Grav3y4rd
[02:50] <Snufj> just insert the CD
[02:51] <nu> guys, whats that winamp like module for linux called
[02:51] <micahcowan> linuxd00d, what do you mean? just apt-get install w32codecs (if you have multiverse repositories set up)
[02:51] <Snufj> and boot!
[02:51] <srhegde> How do I get 'make'
[02:51] <userundefine> srhegde, apt-get install build-essential
[02:51] <nu> srhegde: open syanptic and search for make
[02:51] <ttyfscker> !automatix
[02:51] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[02:51] <nu> !winamp
[02:51] <ubotu> winamp is a windows music player. On Ubuntu you can use beep-media-player or xmms as alternative.
[02:51] <Grav3y4rd> i tried to connect windowsXP with Ubuntu
[02:51] <ttyfscker> !xmms > nu
[02:51] <Grav3y4rd> Windows XP is the server
[02:51] <nu> ttyfscker: thanks ;)
[02:52] <Grav3y4rd> i configured ip,gateway and everything in Ubuntu
[02:52] <Tauhshi> Micah: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19735
[02:52] <pcman> Anyone knows what is the easiest way to add new hardware to ubuntu?
[02:53] <aujordanh> pcman, what kind of hardware?
[02:53] <Grav3y4rd> is there anything else i can do to get my Ubuntu pc to connect with Windows Xp Px
[02:53] <Grav3y4rd> ??
[02:53] <pcman> aujordanh: network card
[02:53] <Grav3y4rd> *pc
[02:53] <aujordanh> pcman, wireless or wired?
[02:53] <MilesAttacca> Can someone give me the boot options for the Ubuntu live CD so I can use it under basic VGA mode until I can get the appropriate graphics driver installed? (Otherwise it locks up constantly.) Previously someone in this channel gave me a set of them, but I lost the file I noted them in/
[02:53] <Grav3y4rd> wired
[02:53] <pcman> aujordanh: wired
[02:54] <micahcowan> Tauhshi, where does it show in nautilus?
[02:54] <aujordanh> Grav3y4rd, it should pick it up, have you tried it already?
[02:54] <linuxd00d> micahcowab, i do not have multiverse repositories setup
[02:54] <userundefine> MilesAttacca, I think it's linux vga=771
[02:54] <pcman> aujordanh: Since ubuntu has good hardware detectionm, there must be some easy ways to do this.
[02:54] <linuxd00d> micahcowan, i do not have multiverse repositories setup
[02:54] <aujordanh> pcman, i think it should pick it up automatically
[02:55] <Grav3y4rd> aujordanh, what do you mean?
[02:55] <pcman> aujordanh: unfortunately, it didn't.
[02:55] <Grav3y4rd> by picking up
[02:55] <micahcowan> linuxd00d, okay, np. Open up System -> Administration -> Software Properties
[02:55] <pcman> aujordanh: I replace my old card with a new one, and it doesn't work.
[02:55] <aujordanh> MilesAttacca, you might be able to press f2 or f3 at boot for boot options i cant remember ubuntu does it or not, i know knoppix and damn small do
[02:55] <linuxd00d> yeah
[02:56] <MatthiasM2> can someone tell my the keys for the game "abuse" ?
[02:56] <aujordanh> Grav3y4rd, didn't mean to say something to you nevermind
[02:56] <micahcowan> linuxd00d, then scroll down to where it says (in small type) Community maintained (Universe). Let me know if there's any other small-type there.
[02:56] <aujordanh> MatthiasM2, probably "man abuse" will tell you
[02:57] <nu> guys. im editing my menu, and i wanna put it to opena folder instead of a program
[02:57] <nu> anyone know how?
[02:57] <Tauhshi> Micah: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19736
[02:57] <linuxd00d> micahcowan, yeah select the binary and source??
[02:57] <Grav3y4rd> i need my Ubuntu PC reicieve internet from a Windows XP PC....
[02:57] <masquerade> nu, make the command nautilus /path/to/folder
[02:57] <Grav3y4rd> How can i configure it?
[02:57] <micahcowan> linuxd00d, yes, but does it also have small type that says "Non-free (Multiverse)"?
[02:57] <Grav3y4rd> in Ubuntu?
[02:58] <nu> masquerade: thank you :F
[02:58] <aujordanh> Grav3y4rd, are they networked?
[02:58] <Grav3y4rd> yes they are
[02:58] <ttyfscker> how come people in here don't consider automatix safe?
[02:58] <aujordanh> nu, you have been working hard all day :)
[02:58] <linuxd00d> micahcowan, yeah thats already been checke
[02:58] <nu> masquerade: im using xfce though
[02:58] <IRC_> my firefox shockwave is not in sync with the audio. why is this?
[02:58] <Grav3y4rd> and i configured in ubuntu the gateway and ip static
[02:58] <nu> aujordanh: yes =(. its taking me forever to ajust it just the way i want
[02:58] <MilesAttacca> Hm, vga=771 makes the colors sort of invert.
[02:58] <masquerade> nu, oh, then, whatever XFCE's folder manager is called
[02:59] <Grav3y4rd> all good but there is not internet yet!
[02:59] <Grav3y4rd> what should i do?
[02:59] <aujordanh> nu, but once you do...
[02:59] <nu> aujordanh: i know. hopefully ill finish it all tonight
[02:59] <aujordanh> is this your first install?
[03:00] <Viper550> masquerade: XFFM or Thunar...if it's tree-view, it's XFFM, if it's Xubuntu or XFCE 4.4 and looks alot like Nautilus, it's Thunar
[03:00] <Jill> hey
[03:00] <excitatory_> does anyone else experience lock-ups in firefox while browsing youtube?  (i really would like to know if this is a flash, os, firefox, or youtube problem)
[03:00] <IRC_> my firefox shockwave is not in sync with the audio. why is this?
[03:00] <nu> aujordanh: no, but its the longer a linux OS has been installed. usually i dont like it and delete it, or something goes wrong and i end up deleting it. it's been installed for a whole 9 hours now lol. record for me.
[03:00] <Grav3y4rd> anyone had conected windowsXp box with a Ubuntu Box?
[03:00] <aujordanh> IRC_, nither is mine... :)
[03:00] <IRC_> excitatory: thats what im on right now. the video works good but the audio isnt in sync
[03:00] <excitatory_> IRC_: flash or shockwave?
[03:00] <nu> aujordanh: i really like this distro though (xubuntu)
[03:01] <aujordanh> nu, congrats
[03:01] <IRC_> excitatory: flash
[03:01] <FuriousRage> woho, ubuntu or nvidia driver finds my hp vs19x screen and id's it correctly
[03:01] <nu> aujordanh: thanks.
[03:01] <IRC_> aujordanh: is there anything i can do?
[03:01] <aujordanh> nu, i am too dependent on gnome to leave it
[03:01] <excitatory_> IRC_: then say flash, there very different.
[03:01] <IRC_> excitatory: ok my b
[03:01] <aujordanh> IRC_, i havent researched it any, let me look around...
[03:01] <degreez> hey im trying to install vmware tools and i tried to execute the install file and i got an error saying unable to find the binary installation director (answer BINDIR) in the installer database file "/etc/vmware-tools/locations" i dont understand what that means, can someone help me please?
[03:01] <A[D] minS> Nighty alllllll
[03:02] <[M] erk> Ubuntu is on the front page of Wikipedia.
[03:02] <nu> aujordanh: i think xfce is a bit lighter than gnome, so i prefer it. although gnome is way more convenient + better looking.
[03:02] <Jill> Im running a dualboot system with ubuntu, and windows xp. Something blew away my ubuntu partiton, and now i cant boot into windows... im using grub as the boot loader. I have a PE version of windows, and a few other file manager utilities that ican access the file system with to read and write files, is there a way to make the system not use grub anymore?
[03:02] <excitatory_> IRC_: it's a common, very well-documented problem.  what version of ubuntu?
[03:02] <krijhwa> Hi ...installing ubuntu for the first time, install had been running for nearly 30 mins, shows windows manager applet ...is that OK
[03:02] <IRC_> excitatory: dapper
[03:03] <nu> One thing i can't stand is KDE. i installed freespire which came with KDE, it was like a circus
[03:03] <degreez> lol
[03:03] <nu> so i deleted it
[03:03] <Grav3y4rd> my Windows Xp Machine detect the conection with Ubuntu Machine But when i Ping Ubuntu Machine there is nothing
[03:03] <Viper550> nu: what is your definition of "a circus"
[03:03] <minimec> [M] erk: THX for the hint ;)
[03:03] <micahcowan> linuxd00d, should like like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i19737 then, right?
[03:03] <Jill> or atlast let me boot to windows again? I dont have my ubuntu disks handy to reinstall ubuntu.
[03:03] <nu> Viper550: Colorful, icons everywhre, slow
[03:03] <Frankenstein> how much ram does xubuntu need?
[03:03] <[M] erk> Frankenstein: a *lot* less than KDE and GNOME.
[03:03] <Tauhshi> Micah: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i19736
[03:04] <Viper550> 32mb minimum, 128 mb if installing from the Desktop disc
[03:04] <Jill> i guess no-one can help me?
[03:04] <Frankenstein> im only asking because im using the ubutnu install cd and i cant even get to the first prompt
[03:04] <linuxd00d> micahcowan, yes it does look like that
[03:04] <nu> Jill:
[03:04] <Jill> yes?
[03:04] <nu> Jill: do you have the Windows CD?
[03:04] <Jill> yes
[03:04] <micahcowan> linuxd00d, then, if you've just checked the box by that, close the window, and it should ask you to refresh source lists or something.
[03:04] <Jill> ooooh
[03:05] <nu> Jill: put the CD win, and boot from the CD and go into recovery mode. then type "fixmbr"
[03:05] <Grav3y4rd> anyone can Help
[03:05] <Jill> fixmbr would fx it wouldn't it?
[03:05] <hoy> how do i reset my connection? like clear dns cache, etc
[03:05] <micahcowan> Tauhshi, try adding the following line to /etc/fstab
[03:05] <nu> Jill: yes it would :D
[03:05] <linuxd00d> micahcowan, done that
[03:05] <Jill> :P
[03:05] <Jill> thanks for reminding me of that :P
[03:05] <nu> anytime
[03:05] <nu> But hey
[03:05] <excitatory_> IRC_: basically, your soundcard is old and/or cheap and does not have hardware mixing.  you'll have to set up alsa and dmix (the ALSA project's software sound mixer)
[03:05] <nu> If you do that
[03:05] <nu> i don't know if youll be able to use grub again
[03:06] <krijhwa> hi, can somebody help me......seeing Window Manager applet for 20 mins now, new install
[03:06] <nu> therefore not able to boot into your linux partition
[03:06] <micahcowan> /dev/hda2       /media/acer               vfat    defaults 0       1
[03:06] <excitatory_> IRC_: this is documented in the ubuntu docs somewhere, but here's a forum post: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186594&highlight=flash+audio+sync
[03:06] <micahcowan> Tauhshi, ^^
[03:06] <aujordanh> IRC_, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186594&highlight=flash+audio+sync
[03:06] <IRC_> excitatory_: yeah ive had problems with it b4. i cant have sound in somthing and banshee also.
[03:06] <micahcowan> linuxd00d, and it refreshed the lists? If so, then just do sudo apt-get install w32codecs.
[03:06] <excitatory_> IRC_: this will fix that also
[03:07] <micahcowan> !restricted
[03:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:07] <IRC_> excitatory_: audordanh: thanks guys
[03:07] <micahcowan> linuxd00d, more info from ubotu ^^
[03:07] <excitatory_> IRC_: the easiest way to fix it is to get a better sound card.. but this works too.
[03:07] <linuxd00d> micahcowan, it did not refresh it just closed :s
[03:07] <aujordanh> excitatory_, you beat me to it...
[03:07] <Jill> i could always, just reinstall ubuntu, that partition is trashed right now away
[03:07] <Jill> anyway *
[03:07] <degreez> im trying to install vmware tools and i tried to execute the install file and i got an error saying unable to find the binary installation directory (answer BINDIR) in the installer database file "/etc/vmware-tools/locations" i dont understand what that means, can someone help me please?
[03:07] <excitatory_> aujordanh: yea, i broke down myself.. it's really worth it.
[03:07] <Mr_Awesome> minimec: xorg.conf was correct
[03:07] <hoy> how do i reset my connection? like clear dns cache, etc
[03:08] <micahcowan> linuxd00d, then do a "sudo apt-get update" first, before that other command.
[03:08] <aujordanh> excitatory_, does it really sycn everything ??
[03:08] <minimec> Mr_Awesome: Hmmm....
[03:08] <linuxd00d> ok
[03:08] <excitatory_> aujordanh: what, dmix?
[03:08] <aujordanh> that fix we both posted
[03:09] <eternaljoy> how can I remove certain services that load at startup to save time and resources, eg, printing etc?
[03:09] <aujordanh> excitatory_, you haven't heard of a player that plays xm radio streams have you?
[03:09] <excitatory_> aujordanh: well, when all sound is going to the same output source, it should, in theory, sync sound system-wide
[03:09] <Mr_Awesome> minimec: it said PCI:1:0:0 and the number of lspci was the same as yours, is that correct?
[03:09] <nu> Anyone know the command to open a dir though terminal? 'open
[03:09] <nu> doesnt work
[03:09] <minimec> Mr_Awesome: Yes it is
[03:09] <excitatory_> aujordanh: no.. but then again i've never even remotely worked with xm
[03:09] <neutrinomass> nu: You don't really open directories in Linux, you enter them with 'cd'
[03:10] <neutrinomass> nu: To view their contents, you can try 'ls'
[03:10] <nu> neutrinomass: the reason i ask is because im adding it to my menu list.
[03:10] <neutrinomass> nu: (After entering them, that is )
[03:10] <neutrinomass> !commands
[03:10] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[03:10] <Schumi> !xtext
[03:10] <nu> neutrinomass: so when i click the folder icon, the folder opens
[03:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about xtext - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:10] <Schumi> !xtest
[03:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about xtest - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:10] <TheGame> sup
[03:10] <eternaljoy> whats the best ftp client for Dapper please?
[03:10] <nu> neutrinomass: someone said "nautilus path/to/folder". However, im using kfce
[03:10] <sethk> eternaljoy, ftp
[03:11] <Schumi> anyone know the apt-get line for getting the Xtest extension? I need it to compile a program
[03:11] <eternaljoy> sethk: gftp easier for a beginner?
[03:11] <linuxd00d> micahcowan, the command does not work
[03:11] <neutrinomass> nu: Ok - what text editor do you use ?
[03:11] <TheGame> why is it that when i go to screensaver my gnome panels still show
[03:11] <eternaljoy> sethk: and how can I remove certain services that load at startup to save time and resources, eg, printing etc?
[03:11] <micahcowan> oh, linuxd00d, whoops my bad: I forgot w32codecs isn't even on restricted repositories. Get the .deb package from http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/dapper/i386/non-free/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb
[03:11] <sethk> eternaljoy, I can't imagine anything easier than ftp
[03:11] <micahcowan> and then do sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[03:11] <linuxd00d> cheers
[03:11] <micahcowan> (from the same directory where you downloaded it)
[03:11] <nu> neutrinomass: abiword
[03:11] <excitatory_> eternaljoy: that's a very subjective question.  also, it really depends on what you're looking for.  you have everything from ftp, gftp, konqueror does it, even firefox has a nice ftp extension available.
[03:12] <eternaljoy> who was it that recommend NVU to me earlier?
[03:12] <sethk> eternaljoy, I do it manually by editing files, but I'm sure there is an easier way that someone here knows.
[03:12] <TheGame> anybody?
[03:12] <eternaljoy> sethk: ok
[03:12] <micahcowan> Tauhshi, did you add that line to /etc/fstab?
[03:12] <minimec> Mr_Awesome: You could try to change the driver of your card to 'vesa', which will probalby give you an 640/480 26 colors screen ... You can also do that with nano. This time do 'mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg-backup.conf' before. A backup is always a good idea ;)
[03:12] <eternaljoy> is there a way I can remove certain serrvices from lading at boot time?
[03:12] <neutrinomass> nu: Ok. Do 'sudo abiword /boot/grub/menu.lst' (Which is the file you're for some reason trying to edit, right? )
[03:12] <eternaljoy> loading
[03:12] <neutrinomass> eternaljoy: System->Administration->Services ?
[03:12] <Mr_Awesome> minimec: what would that accomplish?
[03:13] <excitatory_> eternaljoy: there are a number of ways.  the forums cover this many times.
[03:13] <linuxd00d> micahcowan, its automatically installing the package XD
[03:13] <linuxd00d> micahcowan, its automatically installing the package XD
[03:13] <nu> neutrinomass: no, im not trying to edit a file. i want to add a folder shortcut to the menu bar.
[03:13] <eternaljoy> neutrinomass: thats it!  thansk!  I can remove printer services right?
[03:14] <eternaljoy> neutrinomass: I dont own a printer
[03:14] <neutrinomass> nu: Ahhhh..... sorry, complete misunderstanding. I can't really help you with that - no XFCE lying around :-/ (maybe #xubuntu if nobody can help here )
[03:14] <nu> neutrinomass: for example. i just added firefox to the menu by clicking the ADD button. it then asked me the name of an application. i entered "firefox" and clicked ok. Firefox is now on the menu
[03:14] <minimec> Mr_Awesome: the 'mv'-order makes a copy of your xorg.conf; the 'vesa'-driver is a general driver, that normally runs everything.
[03:14] <micahcowan> linuxd00d, the browser is?
[03:14] <sethk> eternaljoy, you can remove it even if you do own a printer  :)
[03:14] <nu> neutrinomass: aahhhh no problem them. thanks for the try anyways
[03:14] <aujordanh> nu, have you tried joining #xfce or #xubuntu?
[03:14] <neutrinomass> eternaljoy: IIRC you can - try it :)
[03:14] <linuxd00d> micahcowan, no package installer
[03:14] <nu> aujordanh: I am going to now.
[03:14] <eternaljoy> neutrinomass: whats IIRC mean?
[03:14] <eternaljoy> sethk: heh ok ;)
[03:14] <micahcowan> cool
[03:15] <AAA> if I remembeer correctly
[03:15] <eternaljoy> sethk: what else can be removed ?
[03:15] <neutrinomass> eternaljoy: Sorry, my bad :( If I Remember Correctly ...
[03:15] <minimec> Mr_Awesome: It's a test to see, if the card is reacting and giving some 'positive' signs ;)
[03:15] <aujordanh> aujordanh, that really isn't an "Ubuntu" question as it is an xfce question, others may be able to better help you
[03:15] <linuxd00d> micahcowan, will i still need to sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[03:15] <nemik> hello, how can i make ubuntu force my monitor to do an 'auto-config' since when i try to push that button on the monitor, it gives me OSD-locked
[03:15] <[Wiebel] > hmm
[03:15] <Plouj> where is the guide to add the multiverse repository in order to install flashplugin-nonfree?
[03:15] <Mr_Awesome> minimec: ok i suppose ill try it
[03:15] <[Wiebel] > packages.ubuntulinux.com seems to be broken
[03:16] <micahcowan> linuxd00d, no, you should be set, after it's done installing.
[03:16] <Shak-> hey.. im trying to compile an application here but its complaining about not finding GTK+ 2, is there a package im missing?
[03:16] <[Wiebel] > ah
[03:16] <[Wiebel] > it's back
[03:16] <sethk> eternaljoy, look for servers.  it depends, though, on what you need.
[03:16] <micahcowan> trying to view WMVs?
[03:16] <Mr_Awesome> minimec: i guess i can live with 640x480, 26 colors ;)
[03:16] <sethk> eternaljoy, mail server, for example
[03:16] <linuxd00d> no online extreme sports
[03:16] <Plouj> nemik: you mostlikely can't do that from Ubuntu or any other OS, unless the monitor manufacturer provides special software+drivers.
[03:16] <KreativeLight> How do I install my .ttf fonts?
[03:16] <minimec> Mr_Awesome: no ... you woun't  ;)
[03:16] <Renan_s2> Shak-, libgtk2.0-dev
[03:16] <linuxd00d> it says on the browser to UPGRADE MEDIA PLAYER!
[03:16] <Renan_s2> is probably what you want.
[03:17] <nu> the only person in #xubuntu didnt know either =( lol
[03:17] <Shak-> Renan_s2: ok i'll try that out
[03:17] <aujordanh> nu, haha
[03:17] <nemik> Plouj, that is what i thought yet when ubuntu first started up, it forced the monitor to do this. so i'm wondering how i could get to that command possible since it is a little offcenter in gnome
[03:17] <Plouj> nemik: check your monitor's manual how to unlock the OSD
[03:17] <nemik> Plouj, yes i tried but there is nothing for it
[03:17] <Plouj> nemik: monitors auto-config when they enter a video mode for the first time
[03:18] <Plouj> nemik: search google about unlocking your monitor's OSD
[03:18] <nu> aujordanh: hehe. maybe tomorrow someone will know
[03:18] <nemik> hmmm perhaps restarting X then...
[03:18] <Shak-> Renan_s2: hmm its complaining baout unresolvable dependencies in synpatic
[03:18] <linuxd00d> anyways im tired its 2:18am over here in UK im off guys cheers for all you help micahcowan
[03:19] <linuxd00d> peace
[03:19] <eternaljoy> whats the name of the program that shows the paritions on hard drives, like fdisk?
[03:19] <micahcowan> linuxd00d, my pleasure
[03:19] <micahcowan> take car
[03:19] <micahcowan> care
[03:19] <linuxd00d> lol
[03:19] <linuxd00d> laterz
[03:19] <eternaljoy> sethk: mail server doesnt show in that list
[03:19] <eternaljoy> sethk: whats the name of the program that shows the paritions on hard drives, like fdisk?
[03:19] <tbw> Looking for someone w/ PPC experice
[03:19] <Shak-> Renan_s2: there?
[03:20] <Renan_s2> Shak-, I am there, but I don't know what is happening
[03:20] <KreativeLight> HELP PLEASE!  How do I install .ttf fonts?
[03:20] <cdubya> tbw, worked on it a bit
[03:20] <cdubya> eternaljoy, fdisk. :)
[03:20] <tbw> cdubya: Ever gotten a ADC connected lcd to work?
[03:20] <Timmy|GDS> question
[03:20] <smurfmatic> #ubuntu-bugs
[03:20] <cdubya> tbw, haven't honestly tried that......mostly with iMacs
[03:20] <owen_> does frostwire have another name, because i cant get it using sudo apt-get install frostwire
[03:20] <tbw> BAH!
[03:21] <Timmy|GDS> Im about to downsize ubuntus partition with Gparted
[03:21] <Timmy|GDS> will ubuntu freak out>
[03:21] <cdubya> tbw, what's the deal?
[03:21] <Timmy|GDS> ?
[03:21] <eternaljoy> cdmwebs: whats the program similar to fdisk that has a menu display?
[03:21] <cdubya> eternaljoy, System > Administration > Disks
[03:21] <eternaljoy> cdmwebs: its cfdisk
[03:21] <Shak-> Renan_s2: depends libgtk2.0-dev but 2.8.18 0ubuntu2 is to be installed
[03:22] <nemik> plouj, i got it. turns out the next few generations of my monitor DO have documentation on OSD lock and it is the same. it is happily unlocked now and looks great. thank you for your help
[03:22] <Shak-> Renan_s2: then it goes on to list all the dependencies that couldnt' be installed
[03:22] <eternaljoy> cdubya: i found it!  cfdisk
[03:22] <Renan_s2> Shak-, strange...
[03:22] <Timmy|GDS> ,,,
[03:22] <eternaljoy> cdubya: how can I change my temp disk on hda to the same as hdb?
[03:23] <degreez> if someone can help please... the max screen resolution i can select in ubuntu is 1152x900 what can i do to increase that 1280x1024?
[03:23] <Shak-> Renan_s2: http://rafb.net/paste/results/PxAEqW67.html
[03:23] <Timmy|GDS> degreez
[03:23] <Timmy|GDS> edit xconf
[03:23] <Timmy|GDS> google it, you will get alot of stuff
[03:23] <Renan_s2> Shak-, do you have repositories configured?
[03:24] <degreez> thanks timmy
[03:24] <Timmy|GDS> i got 1024-768 to 1280-1024
[03:24] <Shak-> Renan_s2: well my sources file has been working the whole time...
[03:24] <Renan_s2> Shak-, strange, I don't know what is causing your problem
[03:24] <cdubya> eternaljoy, honestly not sure because I'm not sure what you're trying to do......
[03:24] <Plouj> damn, it how can I make apt find flashplugin-nonfree??
[03:24] <eigenlambda> degreez: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:24] <Max007> hi, i have a problem with sudo, i get this error: timestamp too far in the future
[03:24] <Shak-> Renan_s2: could it be the dependencies are in a different respository which I have yet to enable?
[03:24] <degreez> also whats the best editing program to use, pls keep in mind that im a noob.
[03:25] <Timmy|GDS>  Im about to downsize ubuntus partition with Gparted
[03:25] <Renan_s2> Shak-, I don't know...
[03:25] <eigenlambda> dpkg-reconfigure
[03:25] <degreez> Vi warped my mind last time
[03:25] <Shak-> hmm
[03:25] <eigenlambda> is the one you should use
[03:25] <KreativeLight> Hello, Linux Newbie here.  Does anyone know how to install .ttf fonts or any other fonts?
[03:25] <cdubya> degreez, I just use gedit
[03:25] <Timmy|GDS> Will ubuntu freak out if I downsize ubuntus partition with Gparted
[03:25] <eigenlambda> it's the standard way of reconfiguring packages
[03:25] <Gixbit> !ATI
[03:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:25] <Max007> !timestamp
[03:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about timestamp - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:27] <Timmy|GDS> ???
[03:27] <cdubya> Timmy|GDS, not sure, but I'm always hesitant to do that unless you know for sure that what you're doing isn't going to mess up system critical stuff
[03:27] <Timmy|GDS> Well, im gonna install gentoo
[03:27] <cdubya> Timmy|GDS, best of luck.
[03:27] <cdubya> :)
[03:27] <HellDragon> reboot brb
[03:28] <owen_> i cant seem to get frostwire to run... i installed the package off of www.frostwire.com - its in my applications > internet section... but it doesnt open..
[03:28] <owen_> i also have java installed
[03:28] <nu> hey. is there a way for me to bring files from my windows partition here to linux? (music files)
[03:28] <[Wiebel] > how can I compile just one module I've add in my config?
[03:28] <Shak-> Renan_s2: does "You must have dapper-updates repositories enabled for main." help any?
[03:28] <[Wiebel] > instead of compiling all modules
[03:29] <eigenlambda> owen_: try starting it from the command line
[03:29] <eigenlambda> and see what it says
[03:29] <Shak-> that might be the problem but I dont know how to implement that solution
[03:29] <micahcowan> nu, yes. Fat or NTFS
[03:29] <micahcowan> ?
[03:29] <nu> micahcowan: ntfs
[03:29] <Renan_s2> Shak-, I don't know...
[03:29] <Shak-> k
[03:29] <KreativeLight> Help?
[03:29] <Renan_s2> !fonts
[03:29] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[03:29] <cdubya> owen_, and you checked to make sure that it's there?
[03:29] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[03:30] <KreativeLight> Thanks! :)
[03:31] <cdubya> nu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[03:31] <nu> cdubya: thank you
[03:32] <svu> funny, in edgy X.log shows that DRI is enabled but glxinfo says "Direct rendering: No"
[03:32] <cdubya> nu, no problem. If you follow the wiki, it's pretty simple
[03:32] <nu> cdubya: i will.
[03:32] <nu> thanks again
[03:32] <cdubya> nu, just know that it's read-only
[03:33] <cdubya> nu, don't try to write to it.....write's not supported AFAIK
[03:33] <Linuturk> i have completely wiped windows off my laptop. I have an outlook 2003 pst file with all my contacts and such in it. What is the best process of converting these over?
[03:33] <mrak> Hi! I've accidentally deleted my /etc/fonts and now everything's screwed
[03:33] <micahcowan> nu, mores specifically, there is support, but it's not terribly reliable, *experimental*only*.
[03:34] <mrak> how can I restore it?
[03:34] <eigenlambda> hm
[03:34] <eigenlambda> dpkg-reconfigure all the font packages?
[03:35] <mrak> ahm
[03:35] <Desh> Hi, I need help dual booting Ubuntu and XP. I have installed XP and am currently in it. I am going to restpre GRUB but I don;t know wether to overwrite the Windows Bootloader and use Grub only or if it is ok to use both bootloaders on the MBR. if I use both will i be asked which OS to boot to?
[03:35] <mrak> is there a way to list all font packages?
[03:35] <Linuturk> Grub should handle ubuntu and windows
[03:35] <Linuturk> go Grub only Desh
[03:35] <eigenlambda> dpkg -l lists all the packages you have installed
[03:35] <Magnus-swe> a
[03:35] <Linuturk> i have completely wiped windows off my laptop. I have an outlook 2003 pst file with all my contacts and such in it. What is the best process of converting these over?
[03:35] <naknomik> Desh: you can't have Grub and windows at the same time
[03:36] <Desh> And if I do Grub only, will it auto-add XP or do I need to add it myself?
[03:36] <neutrinomass> Desh: Have you installed Ubuntu? If you first install XP and then Ubuntu, grub will be configured and installed so that you get a chance to choose between the two OS at boot ...
[03:36] <Magnus-swe> __mikem, Eleaf .. < kick then in the head
[03:36] <Desh> No, I had Ubuntu and now installed XP.
[03:36] <Magnus-swe> Morons
[03:36] <eigenlambda> try uninstalling and reinstalling fontconfig
[03:36] <Magnus-swe> Ill be listening to Maiden
[03:37] <neutrinomass> nalioth: If you're still around, please do us the favour of banning Magnus-swe from here as well ....
[03:37] <Magnus-swe> Meza.. menza thats weak... son :)
[03:38] <Desh> If I restore GRUB now, since it is gone right now, wil it auto-add XP or would I need to go and edit the GRUB config?
[03:38] <naknomik> Desh add something like:
[03:38] <naknomik> title Window XP
[03:38] <naknomik> rootnoverify (hd1,0)
[03:38] <neutrinomass> nalioth: Thanks :)
[03:38] <naknomik> chainloader +1
[03:38] <naknomik> Make sure you adjust the (hd1,0) entry
[03:38] <cdubya> Linuturk, maybe here? http://www.freshports.org/mail/libpst/
[03:38] <Desh> Ok, yeah I have the guide here
[03:38] <mrak> removing fontcofing will remove a lot of stuff, is there a way to remove fontconfig only
[03:38] <naknomik> Desh: may be not.
[03:38] <Desh> I just hope I use the right (hd1,0) type entry
[03:39] <naknomik> Desh: how is your partition table?
[03:39] <Shak-> can anyone help me out? im trying to install libgtk2.0-dev but it keeps complaining about unmet dependencies
[03:39] <owen_> ok , in the terminal I ran frostwire - says oops cannot find java in 3 different directories it checked as default, i have the latest jre 1.5 java installed through apt-get install - do i have to reinstall in a different directory?
[03:39] <Shak-> heres the output I get when attempting "apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev" http://rafb.net/paste/results/PxAEqW67.html
[03:40] <Desh> naknomik: First partition is Ubuntu, 2nd is extended which contains hda5, the Linux swap, and the 3rd partition is XP.
[03:40] <Schumi> does anyone want to search their HD for "XTest.h" and send it to me???
[03:40] <Desh> naknomik: but XP saw it as: Partition 1: Linux, Partition 2: XP, Partition 3: Swap
[03:40] <naknomik> Desh: are you booted into ubuntu right now?
[03:40] <eternaljoy> cdubya: lol
[03:40] <cdubya> eternaljoy, huh?
[03:40] <Desh> naknomik: no, XP atm
[03:40] <micahcowan> Shak-, try using Synaptic to install it (System -> Admin -> Synaptic)
[03:41] <naknomik> Desh: Can you boot into Ubuntu ISO CD?
[03:41] <Schumi> I'm in a serious serious bind here guys, I really need to find the Xtest extension
[03:41] <Shak-> micahcowan: I did, both piped out the same error
[03:41] <mrak> could someone send me the /etc/fonts/*
[03:41] <micahcowan> Shak-, you have to make sure that if it recommends you also install various dependencies, that you let it do so. Did it ask you to confirm adding dependencies?
[03:42] <mrak> that would be great ;-)
[03:42] <mrak> from the default ubuntu install
[03:42] <gabber38209> How do I make Gaim minimize into the Gnome Panel?
[03:42] <cdubya> Linuturk, everything I'm finding seems to allude to converting the .pst before you wipe
[03:42] <Shak-> micahcowan: yes it did in synaptic, but the error came after I marked all the dependencies it asked for
[03:42] <cdubya> Windows...
[03:42] <Linuturk> :-/
[03:42] <cdubya> yeah
[03:42] <cdubya> bummer
[03:43] <cdubya> sorry
[03:43] <cdubya> still looking
[03:43] <cdubya> Linuturk, if you make a copy of your .pst and then try the libpst app, it may be worth a shot, though.
[03:43] <nu> hey
[03:44] <eternaljoy> NVU is great
[03:44] <nu> mozilla crashes whenever i enter a site that uses flash
[03:44] <Linuturk> libpst?
[03:44] <nu> and i installed the plugoin
[03:44] <naknomik> What is NVU?
[03:44] <eternaljoy> nu: use firefox
[03:44] <Linuturk> you mean readpst?
[03:44] <micahcowan> mrak, try http://micah.cowan.name/fonts.tgz, and lemme know when you've got it.
[03:44] <nu> eternaljoy: that's what i meant.
[03:44] <eternaljoy> naknomik: NVU is a html editor
[03:44] <Linuturk> NVU isn't anygood for coders
[03:44] <Linuturk> it rewrites your code
[03:44] <eternaljoy> nu: try Opera
[03:44] <mrak> micahcowan, tnx
[03:44] <nu> mmm
[03:44] <Shak-> micahcowan: after I mark all the dependencies, the error that pops up complains about "unresolvable dependencies"
[03:44] <Linuturk> www.aptana.com mrak
[03:44] <nu> i love firefox though lol
[03:44] <eternaljoy> Linuturk: rubbish
[03:44] <cdubya> Liniturk, http://sourceforge.net/projects/ol2mbox
[03:44] <nu> hold on let me see if i canf ix
[03:45] <Linuturk> eternaljoy, it rewrites you code buddie
[03:45] <eternaljoy> nu: remove firefox and install
[03:45] <eternaljoy> Linuturk: rubbish
[03:45] <Linuturk> i've pasted plenty of clean code into NVU, and it's formatted it
[03:45] <micahcowan> Shak-, can you get me a screenshot (or somesuch) of that error (assuming it gives more detail than that)?
[03:45] <cdubya> nu, or try epiphany
[03:45] <gabber38209> How do I make Gaim minimize into the Gnome Panel?
[03:45] <Linuturk> the option to disable that formatting doesn't work
[03:45] <Linuturk> www.aptana.com is a better solution
[03:45] <cdubya> I gave up on firefox
[03:45] <nu> cdubya: is that a browser?
[03:45] <Schumi> seriously noone wants to help me with XTest?
[03:46] <iratsu> how does one switch his default shell from bash to zsh?
[03:46] <void^> chsh
[03:46] <Linuturk> gabber38209, make sure you have the system tray package installed
[03:46] <cdubya> nu, yep
[03:46] <Linuturk> gabber38209, it's in synaptic
[03:46] <neutrinomass> iratsu: I'm not even sure it is a good idea ... you might have trouble booting ...
[03:46] <cdubya> nu, sudo apt-get install epiphany-browser
[03:46] <Shak-> micahcowan: ok, hold on
[03:46] <cdubya> methinks that's the package name
[03:46] <gabber38209> Linuturk, thanks
[03:46] <eternaljoy> Linuturk: NVU has fixed up your amaetuer and unclean code :)
[03:46] <mrak> have  to reboot
[03:46] <iratsu> neutrinomass: why's that?
[03:47] <Ronz> if i have ubuntu installed on hda, can i edit other partitions on the disk?
[03:47] <cdubya> yep, that's it
[03:47] <iratsu> neutrinomass: oh i only wanna switch it for one user
[03:47] <Linuturk> eternaljoy, it's put usesless <font> tags and other garbage, and ruined my CSS
[03:47] <Ronz> say root is hda3....can i format hda4?
[03:47] <eternaljoy> Linuturk: if your code was professional and clean NVU wouldnt need to fix it up!
[03:47] <snoops> Linuturk gosh, it's using font tags? yuck
[03:47] <Linuturk> exactly
[03:47] <neutrinomass> iratsu: Oh, ok then .. If you changed it system-wide I'm not sure the various scripts around the system would work correctly ...
[03:47] <Linuturk> www.aptana.com << a better solution, though no wysiwyg
[03:48] <iratsu> neutrinomass: yea, that's not waht i meant
[03:48] <Linuturk> but aptana is still beta, but in better condition than NVU
[03:48] <iratsu> neutrinomass: how do i change it for one user then? =)
[03:48] <cdubya> heh, Liniturk, I just use gedit.
[03:48] <cdubya> :)
[03:48] <eternaljoy> Linuturk: are you a better developer than the guys who wrote NVU? is that what you claim? Of so, put your words into action and create someting better than NVU!    If you cant, be SILENT fool!
[03:48] <nu> cdubya: thanks. ill give it a shot
[03:48] <cdubya> nu, np.
[03:48] <ubuntu> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[03:48] <cdubya> nu, it's wicked fast
[03:48] <ubuntu> hellooooooo
[03:48] <void^> iratsu: chsh
[03:48] <cdubya> hi
[03:48] <iratsu> void^: thank you
[03:48] <Linuturk> eternaljoy, i'm not a better software developer, but I'm a better html developer than those people
[03:49] <owen_> how do i install the latest 1.x jre java through terminal?
[03:49] <cdubya> !java
[03:49] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[03:49] <Ronz> Linuturk, i speak HTML better than i speak my second language
[03:49] <eternaljoy> Linuturk: if you are so clever, where can we download the htmo editor you wrote?
[03:49] <cdubya> !javadebs
[03:49] <eternaljoy> Linuturk: prove it!!!!
[03:49] <Shak-> micahcowan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19739(
[03:49] <nu> cdubya: i reinstalled FF and it went. but im gonna give epiphany a try
[03:49] <Linuturk> i didn't write an editor
[03:49] <micahcowan> eternaljoy, the very fact that NVU uses font tags prove it
[03:49] <snoops> Linuturk isn't that the point though - don't most wysiwyg editors rewrite code a bit? - personally I've never used a wysiwyg editor to develop websites, because they usually can't render things properly anyway (considering the myriad of rendering engines actually used)
[03:49] <Linuturk> eternaljoy, but give www.aptana.com a try
[03:49] <cdubya> nu, I switched to epiphany a while back and haven't been to ff since
[03:50] <eternaljoy> Linuturk: prove it that you are a better html developer than those who wrote NVU
[03:50] <micahcowan> Linuturk, I suppose you know about tidy?
[03:50] <eternaljoy> Linuturk: no thanks! I want GUI
[03:50] <micahcowan> or is it htmltidy?
[03:50] <gabber38209> Linuturk, could you tell me the name of the package? I'm having trouble finding it in Synaptic and apt-cache search
[03:50] <Ronz> cdubya, does epiphany use tab browsing?
[03:50] <cdubya> Ronz, yep
[03:50] <cdubya> Ronz, and it's lean
[03:50] <Linuturk> gabber38209, search for gaim, and it will be there
[03:50] <Ronz> cdubya, im getting ready to re-install my ubuntu. ill use that
[03:50] <AngryElf> what is the device name of ubuntu's sound mixer?
[03:51] <Linuturk> and, i did use dreamweaver. It doesn't rewrite code snoops. I now use aptana b/c NVU rewrites code, and I use it to preview my code w/o opening a browser
[03:51] <micahcowan> Shak-, but the fact that it says "N isn't going to be installed" means that it wasn't marked for installation, I believe. Can you go through and make sure that they're marked the way they should be?
[03:51] <lufis> AngryElf: The name, or the command?
[03:51] <Linuturk> yes, i know about tidy
[03:51] <nu> cdubya: FF has some nice plugins though
[03:51] <Ronz> dreamweaver ftw
[03:51] <cdubya> nu, no doubt, but I live without them. ;)
[03:51] <Shak-> micahcowan: im 100% sure I marked it
[03:51] <AngryElf> actually, rather, mythfrontend is reporting that /dev/dsp is busy, being used by another application -- but fuser /dev/dsp reports nothing
[03:51] <Linuturk> but I'd rather not have to clean up code that could be clean in the first place
[03:51] <Shak-> this error pops up after I mark the package and all its dependencies
[03:51] <AngryElf> so, how do i find out what is using /dev/dsp?
[03:51] <cdubya> nu, if you can deal with a slim, fast browser with tabs, then try epiphany.
[03:51] <cdubya> I like it.
[03:51] <snoops> Linuturk okay, the designers at work use dreamweaver, we use a mixture of eclipse and homesite (coldfusion developers)
[03:52] <GianLuigiBuffon> Hi buddies!!!!!
[03:52] <lufis> Hi GianLuigiBuffon!
[03:52] <micahcowan> Shak-, it's a pain... but you might try apt-get installing each of those individual dependencies first (that shouldn't be necessary, but I'm a bit stumped)
[03:52] <Evil_Ed`> hi
[03:52] <Ronz> 'lo
[03:52] <cdubya> nu, it's functionality is a lot more basic, but I think that was the intention - to keep it lean and quick
[03:52] <Shak-> micahcowan: I tried that too, it also error'ed out :/
[03:52] <GianLuigiBuffon> I want to install a HP all in one.... how can I do it? I use Dapper Dake
[03:52] <nu> ok
[03:52] <nu> when i view a flahs site, it crashes
[03:52] <nu> FF is crashing again
[03:52] <Linuturk> snoops, dreamweaver is pretty good (I have Studio 8) but I'd rather support open source then pay all that money for each release. I've never used eclipse. I do mostly PHP mySQL
[03:52] <Evil_Ed`> dunno
[03:52] <lufis> Hey, can 100 people leave the room so we can 666? ;)
[03:52] <Shak-> micahcowan: but look at the second line in the screenshot
[03:52] <Ronz> GianLuigiBuffon, have you tried "add printer" with dapper?
[03:52] <cdubya> GainLuigiBuffon, make sure it's supported first....;)
[03:53] <lufis> Whoops, make that 101
[03:53] <GianLuigiBuffon> mmm nop.... how I do that?
[03:53] <Ronz> u in dapper now?
[03:53] <cdubya> GainLuigiBuffon, System > Administration > Printing
[03:53] <GianLuigiBuffon> lufis the real number is 830 no 666 :P
[03:53] <Ronz> what dubya said
[03:53] <lufis> GianLuigiBuffon: :-( I know
[03:53] <snoops> Linuturk oh well, definitely give eclipse a go :).. flex builder 2.0 (by adobe/macromedia) was just released and that's using the eclipse framework with some customisations for flex
[03:53] <GianLuigiBuffon> il check
[03:54] <Shak-> micahcowan: could it be that version difference, (2.8.17-1ubuntu5 but 2.8.1.18-0ubuntu2 is to be installed)
[03:54] <cdubya> GainLuigiBuffon, which one is it/
[03:54] <Linuturk> snoops, aptana has been released as a plugin for eclipse ;p
[03:54] <Linuturk> snoops, got a specific package to install for eclipse? what packages are a must have?
[03:54] <micahcowan> Shak-, absolutely. Huh...
[03:54] <micahcowan> Shak-, have you apt-get updated recently?
[03:55] <Shak-> yup, I updated right after it didnt work and tried again
[03:55] <snoops> Linuturk there are also css, html, php plugins for eclipse with content-assist
[03:55] <snoops> Linuturk I believe 3.1 is still in the repositories.. on the eclipse website you can grab 3.2
[03:55] <snoops> but that could have changed
[03:55] <ardchoille> !info eclipse
[03:55] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In repository universe, is optional. Version 3.1.2-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 100 kB, installed size 368 kB
[03:55] <ttyfscker> eclipse is pretty great
[03:56] <GianLuigiBuffon> cdubya I install it by port ? or by driver?
[03:56] <ttyfscker> :)
[03:57] <hastesaver> How do I get my computer to automatically update the time? (How do I install ntpdate?)
[03:57] <micahcowan> Shak-, I show that libgtk2.0-0-2.8.20-0ubuntu1 is available, along with the same version -dev.
[03:57] <Linuturk> snoops, where are those css, html, php plugins?
[03:57] <Shak-> micahcowan: hmm?
[03:58] <Linuturk> snoops, in the repos?
[03:58] <maple> what is better, windows 3.11 or linux?
[03:58] <micahcowan> apt-cache tells me libgtk2 and libgtk2-dev are at 2.8.20-0ubuntu1, not .17 or .18
[03:58] <cdubya> GianLuigiBuffon, what kind of printer/model is it? usb?
[03:58] <GianLuigiBuffon> lol mAple :/
[03:58] <zoidberg> guys i have a question
[03:58] <zoidberg> in the terminal
[03:58] <GianLuigiBuffon> cdubya is a all in one USB F300 series
[03:58] <cdubya> heh
[03:58] <Shak-> micahcowan: hmm, apt-get update should have fixed any problems with that though?
[03:58] <GianLuigiBuffon> hP
[03:58] <zoidberg> when i type sudo pppoeconf
[03:58] <owen_> i installed java using the sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre command - frostwire still doesnt detect it - any suggestions?
[03:58] <zoidberg> it says option not available
[03:59] <zoidberg> when ui try to launch ppoenconf without typing sudo it says you need to be logged in as root
[03:59] <zoidberg> ?
[03:59] <zoidberg> any help?
[03:59] <Ronz> then sudo
[03:59] <micahcowan> Shak-, I would've thought...
[03:59] <GianLuigiBuffon> appears in detected printe... but twice
[03:59] <snoops> Linuturk probably not in the repos..but maybe.. I haven't looked in the repos for them
[03:59] <hastesaver> there is no ntpdate in my /etc/init.d , although I have the packages ntp and ntpdate installed... does anyone know why?
[03:59] <Shak-> micahcowan: perhaps my sources list is broken?
[03:59] <zoidberg> when i type "sudo pppoeconf" it says option not avaiblable
[03:59] <geniusdot> hi everyone
[04:00] <GianLuigiBuffon> then I click on next and I should select one but appears 1000 series, I just click on next, or I install it by port
[04:00] <Linuturk> snoops, i don't see them in the repos, they must be on the eclipse site?
[04:00] <Shak-> micahcowan: it might be worth nothing that my sources list downloads from "archive.ubuntu.com" and not "us.archive.ubuntu.com"
[04:00] <cdubya> GianLuigiBuffon, you need to install the right driver for it....
[04:00] <snoops> and google Linuturk.. sourceforge as well
[04:00] <ardchoille> zoidberg: It may be that pppoeconf needs to be run with at least one option.. I never used it but it's just a guess. Perhaps man ppoeconf might be of some help?
[04:00] <Shak-> I made that change because us. stopped working suddenly and someone here suggested changing to archive.
[04:01] <cdubya> GianLuigiBuffon, so if the printer isn't in the list, it prolly doesn't have a driver loaded
[04:01] <micahcowan> Shak-, ....hm. us is currently working for me, so if you saved your old list, you might want to restore it, refresh, and try again?
[04:01] <minerale> Hi, how may I type accented characters in gnome? Is there something to Windows' alt + xxxx code / and a table of characters available ?
[04:01] <Shak-> micahcowan: ok i'll try it
[04:01] <minerale> is it even possible to type accented characters in ubuntu ? (without changing keyboards)
[04:01] <tkup> hastesaver, I have ntpdate in /etc/init.d. but to sync time against a server, jut put ntpdate server.clock.tld in a script in /etc/cron.hourly/
[04:02] <Jack_Sparrow> I was told in the Mepis channel that the current kernel that Ubuntu uses has some security issues
[04:02] <AngryElf> how come "lsof |grep hda" turns up nothing?
[04:02] <gabber38209> How do I clone an installation of Ubuntu?
[04:03] <Jack_Sparrow> gabber38209: is the hardware identical?
[04:03] <DanaG> Aargh, is there any way to get window snapping in XGL WITHOUT wobbly?
[04:03] <gabber38209> jack_sparrow, no
[04:03] <snoops> Linuturk I use eclipse with the ruby and css plugin mostly.. absolutely love it :)
[04:03] <nu> on Synaptic, what do the packages with a little star on them mean?
[04:03] <Shak-> micahcowan: odd, still the same result >_<
[04:03] <Shak-> micahcowan: do you think you could put your sources file on pastebin or something, i'll try copying directly
[04:03] <Linuturk> snoops, i think i'm going to let aptana mature
[04:04] <snoops> might be a wise move
[04:04] <nu> \-_-/ megatron
[04:04] <Ronz> and the angels are rejoicing...because my tower shall run ALL UBUNTU
[04:04] <micahcowan> minerale, it is possible. I saw someone show how, but I can't remember the details, or find it. I'm looking...
[04:05] <steveO_> Any file I can grep at and get a motherboard model # from?
[04:05] <steveO_> dmesg perhaps?
[04:05] <zoidberg> alright guys here is my problem
[04:05] <zoidberg> i'm trying to launch pppoeconf from the terminal
[04:05] <zoidberg> i type in pppoeconf
[04:05] <zoidberg> it says you need to be logged in as root
[04:05] <zoidberg> so
[04:05] <Jack_Sparrow> gabber38209: I would do a std install on the new one and on the old one try this... To identify installed packages and create a list to reinstall Use Terminal type dpkg --get-selections > myprog.txt to reinstall type dpkg --get-selections < myprog.txt
[04:05] <micahcowan> Shak-, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19740
[04:06] <zoidberg> i type in sudo pppoeconf and it says option not available
[04:06] <zoidberg> ?
[04:06] <zoidberg> help?
[04:06] <DanaG> Oh, for sys info, look for "DMI"
[04:06] <mournahan> my ubuntu keeps frezing, I need help
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> zoidberg: the universal boot cd boots live and identifys a lot of different hardware.
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> mournahan: Need more info..
[04:07] <zoidberg> what jack sparrow?
[04:07] <zoidberg> why do i need a boot cd
[04:07] <zoidberg> ?
[04:07] <GianLuigiBuffon> if the driver is working, must print at the moment? or I must reboot or someting, mine is F300 series, but I dont see it, but is weird, because is HP
[04:07] <Shak-> micahcowan: apt-get is sufficient before opening synaptic right?
[04:07] <zoidberg> i have badger on fine on this old G3 powerbook
[04:07] <farous> is there a list of compatible external harddisk for ubuntu. I am going to buy one and am hoping that it will work hastle free?
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> zoidberg: it is the best hardware detection software that I know of..
[04:07] <vircuser> while attempting to follow the guide here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia I got to step 11 and upon restart X failed.  I restored the default driver, but I really would like to get my NVidia GeForce MX 4000 working with proper drivers (needed for myth-tv, I suppose)
[04:07] <vircuser> Any help would be greatly appreciated
[04:07] <zoidberg> i dont have a hardware problem jack sparrow
[04:07] <Schumi> can someone do a search in their X11 folders and send me "XTest.h" ??? I really need xtest to compile something
[04:08] <scast> hello. I don't really have a problem with ubuntu yet, but I am seriously considering on moving from my Arch-based system to Ubuntu. Not because I am un-happy with Arch, but because I need right now in this moment something that let me come back from home, checkout my mail, my fav websites and then svn to my work and download everything I did today. The thing is I need the developer things... Like python, c++, lamp blah blah, is this easy to get 
[04:08] <zoidberg> i'm looking to log in as root so i could run pppoeconf
[04:08] <steveO_> Schumi: I don't have it.
[04:08] <scast> let me come back from work*
[04:08] <mournahan> it happens when I leave my computer logged in and leave, when I come back the computer works for  min then cant do nothing ctrl alt bkspc dosent even work
[04:08] <DanaG> IT was steveO that needed sys info, not zoidberg.
[04:08] <micahcowan> minerale, go to System -> Preferences -> Keyboard
[04:08] <micahcowan> Layout options tab
[04:08] <steveO_> scast, hell yea.  apt-get install python or whatever you want.
[04:08] <zoidberg> thank you
[04:08] <zoidberg> now can someone help me?
[04:09] <scast> Do I need to configure 10519835158 files?
[04:09] <Jack_Sparrow> zoidberg: sorry wrong person in autocomplete
[04:09] <GianLuigiBuffon> Can you help me for find it, the printer is Deskjet F380 all-in-one
[04:09] <steveO_> scast: hell no.
[04:09] <micahcowan> minerale, Make an appropriate setting change in "Compose key position". Holding that down will let you compose accented characters,
[04:09] <zoidberg> thats fine jack sparrow
[04:09] <steveO_> scast: it even finds your dependencies too.
[04:09] <degreez> how does one paste clipboard text in nano?
[04:09] <zoidberg> perhaps you could help me with my problem though
[04:09] <zoidberg> ?
[04:09] <Schumi> jack do you have Xtest.h?
[04:09] <zoidberg> i'm trying to launch pppoeconf from the terminal
[04:09] <steveO_> zoidberg: I would if I could; I can't.
[04:09] <gekko`> Machtyn: what's the /var/log/Xorg.0.log telling?
[04:09] <micahcowan> Shak-, what was your question, "apt-get update"? yes, that should suffice.
[04:09] <zoidberg> it says i need to log in as root
[04:09] <scast> Uhmm. Another thing... I need the fuse module for the kernel, is this in the ubuntu repositories?
[04:10] <Jack_Sparrow> zoidberg: you dont run as root.. you use sudo or if gui gksudo or if kde kdesu
[04:10] <steveO_> zoidberg: try sudo ppoeconf or whatever
[04:10] <cdubya> zoidberg, you can't sudo using your user
[04:10] <zoidberg> but i cant type sudo pppoeconf it says option not available
[04:10] <steveO_> then put in the pw
[04:10] <cdubya> ?
[04:10] <steveO_> hmm
[04:10] <zoidberg> what about xubuntu?
[04:10] <zoidberg> xfce?
[04:10] <mournahan> Jack_Sparrow: any Ideas
[04:10] <steveO_> scast: I'm not sure..
[04:10] <Machtyn> gekko:  is that logfile overwritten each time X is started?
[04:11] <Jack_Sparrow> mournahan: How long has it been doing that and have you made any changes or updates lately
[04:11] <Shak-> micahcowan: sweet, its downloading the packages now
[04:11] <Shak-> no idea what was wrong
[04:11] <zoidberg> pw doesnt work stevo?
[04:12] <mister_roboto> zoidberg, you mean you get that error message when you type "sudo pppoeconf"?  because when I do that, I get an ascii dialog displaying my ethernet card
[04:12] <Machtyn> gekko: and also, I get a lot of WACOM suppress lines... what's the deal there?  I have no WACOM device connected to it.  weird
[04:12] <Jack_Sparrow> zoidberg: do you have more than one user setup in the system?
[04:12] <mournahan> fixed it once in breezy then.  did a new install to dapper and cant fix it?  in breezy I turned off certin power manigment services that did it.  tryed in dapper and still dose it.  just did a fresh install
[04:12] <zoidberg> yeah it says option not available when i type in sudo pppoeconf
[04:13] <zoidberg> let me try one more thing
[04:13] <zoidberg> hold on
[04:13] <micahcowan> Shak-, awesome. Had you had the universe/multiverse repositories set up? Because I did.
[04:13] <Shak-> I thought I did, I used the source-o-matic thingy to make my list
[04:14] <Shak-> but its strange... after updating with your list theres a ton of system updates I need to download
[04:14] <aujordanh> What is the best rss aggregator?
[04:14] <micahcowan> Shak- huh. Oh, wait, were you using dapper or some other?
[04:14] <gekko`> Machtyn: sec
[04:14] <Shak-> dapper
[04:14] <micahcowan> huh.
[04:15] <DanaG> Aargh, when I install things, they don't get added to the menu.
[04:15] <Shak-> micahcowan: let me put my previous sources file up
[04:15] <micahcowan> yeah, okay.
[04:15] <Jack_Sparrow> DanaG: what things and how are you installing them?
[04:16] <Shak-> micahcowan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19741
[04:16] <zoidberg> oh guys
[04:16] <zoidberg> i closed the terminal
[04:16] <zoidberg> and i typed in pppoeconf in a new terminal
[04:17] <zoidberg> it asked me for the password
[04:17] <zoidberg> i typed it in
[04:17] <Jack_Sparrow> yea
[04:17] <zoidberg> and it didnt seem to have an error with the passowrd
[04:17] <zoidberg> it just sasy option is not avialble
[04:17] <Machtyn> gekko:  Upon attempting to restart X, I get the error (WW) NVIDIA: No matching Device section for instance... and (EE) No devices detected.  (I'm looking right into the case and can see the GeForce MX 4000 card sitting in my PCI slot) :-/
[04:17] <zoidberg> ] does that mean maybe pppoeconf is not sinstalled correctly?
[04:18] <zoidberg> ?
[04:18] <zoidberg> ?
[04:18] <gekko`> Machtyn: replace the line with 'nv' to 'nvidia' and restart your Xserver. then pastebin the /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Machtyn: when you did the nv drivers did you manually change NV to nvidia in the xorg file?
[04:20] <micahcowan> Shak-, well, the only difference that stands out is that you didn't have security updates enabled...
[04:20] <Shak-> hmmm
[04:20] <micahcowan> Shak-, oh! or dapper-updates, I think.
[04:20] <Machtyn> gekko': are you referring to the xorg.conf file, the log file, or someother file?
[04:21] <gekko`> Machtyn: /var/log/Xorg.0.log to that one
[04:21] <nu> hey
[04:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Machtyn: did you manually change ANY line in a file from nv to nvidia
[04:21] <gekko`> !pastebin > Machtyn
[04:21] <Shak-> ahh, so all my stuff was old
[04:21] <nu> can anyone tell me what program is on the top of left of this screenshot: http://www.zenwalk.org/uploads/img448b0b0adfe88.png
[04:21] <nu> the menu-like thing
[04:21] <gekko`> Machtyn: paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log there
[04:21] <micahcowan> Shak-, maybe. It still should've at least worked, though...
[04:22] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati
[04:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:24] <aujordanh> can anybody recommend a good rss aggregator
[04:25] <aujordanh> !rss
[04:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about rss - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:25] <ardchoille> !liferea
[04:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about liferea - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:25] <ardchoille> !info liferea
[04:25] <ubotu> liferea: feed aggregator for GNOME. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.0.12-0ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 726 kB, installed size 2192 kB
[04:25] <ardchoille> aujordanh: ^^
[04:25] <aujordanh> ardchoille, thank you
[04:26] <gekko`> aujordanh: for kde or gnome?
[04:26] <aujordanh> gnome
[04:26] <ardchoille> aujordanh: I used it for a bit and liked it
[04:26] <jose__> !list
[04:26] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[04:26] <bruenig> www.netvibes.com
[04:26] <gekko`> ah, then nevermind
[04:26] <bruenig> I use that for rss
[04:26] <jose__> @find julieta
[04:26] <DanaG> !mirrors
[04:26] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[04:27] <DanaG> I want to find not-overloaded update mirrors.
[04:27] <jose__> dir
[04:27] <degreez> in xorg.conf what does the Depth integer mean?
[04:28] <degreez> variable rather...
[04:28] <jose__> join #[H5N1] 
[04:28] <paxx>  Hey guys. anyone here have any luck getting an animated skybox running in compiz??
[04:29] <Jack_Sparrow> degreez: color depth
[04:29] <jonc101> im trying to install vmware onto 6.06 server and vmware is complaining that it needs glibc and libX11.so.6.  where do i get these?  how do i install them?
[04:29] <zenmonk> anyone know how soon firefox's 1.5.0.6 is expected to be available?
[04:29] <jonc101> 1.5.0.6 was released yesterday
[04:29] <tristanmike> !firefox > zenmonk
[04:29] <bruenig> jonc101, build-essential may do?
[04:29] <bruenig> at leat for glibc, i think
[04:29] <Machtyn> gekko': I've posted my log file here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19743
[04:30] <jonc101> bruenig: i install that prior to installing vmware.
[04:30] <zenmonk> tristanmike: what?
[04:30] <tristanmike> !tell zenmonk about firefox
[04:30] <jonc101> omf
[04:30] <aeruz> Hello there!!!
[04:30] <jonc101> anyone else had any lib problems while installing vmware?
[04:30] <DanaG> HOw do you make an animated skybox anyway?
[04:30] <tristanmike> zenmonk: bah, here.... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:31] <Machtyn> gekko': I noticed on line 77, it recognizes the card in the PCI slot (0:8:0)
[04:31] <nu> guys
[04:31] <nu> i just installed eterm through synaptic. anyone know where it went?
[04:31] <aeruz> I have a small problem, I can't start the synaptic package manager
[04:31] <cowmilk2> how can i tell whether my USB is version 1 or version 2? please tell me?
[04:31] <rki> cowmilk2, lspci
[04:32] <aeruz> it lets me know that there are updates, I click on the button but nothing happens
[04:32] <cowmilk2> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19742 <--lspci printout, rki please take a look.
[04:32] <Jack_Sparrow> aeruz: what error do you get?
[04:32] <Machtyn> cowmilk2:  do you know the type of motherboard you have?
[04:32] <cowmilk2> Machtyn: asus p3b-f
[04:32] <gekko`> Machtyn: also pastebin your xorg.conf
[04:32] <aeruz> I get no error, I get the waiting icon and then it dissapears
[04:32] <rki> cowmilk2, usb1
[04:32] <neviedais> !fsck
[04:32] <ubotu> I know nothing about fsck - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:33] <neviedais> !ubuntu
[04:33] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[04:33] <cowmilk2> rki: how can you tellL
[04:33] <cowmilk2> ?
[04:33] <neviedais> !blackbox
[04:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about blackbox - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:33] <aeruz> I update trought apt-get, which is fine, but I don't know what that could be
[04:33] <neviedais> Stupid fcuking bot.
[04:33] <DanaG> Hey, if I want to use one of these drivers meant for other distros, how would I do it?
[04:33] <DanaG> http://www.motorola.com/softmodem/driver.htm
[04:33] <Jack_Sparrow> !language > neviedais:
[04:33] <DanaG> I don't care how slow it is -- all I want it for is caller ID.
[04:34] <jonc101> im trying to install vmware onto 6.06 server and vmware is complaining that it needs glibc and libX11.so.6.  where do i get these?  how do i install them?  i've installed build-essential.
[04:34] <zenmonk> I meant when will the .06 version of firefox hit the ubuntu repo?
[04:34] <darthbator> hey guys I'm having some keyboard issues
[04:34] <Jack_Sparrow> DanaG: Your modem hardware must support that option
[04:34] <darthbator> specifically my right alt+cntrl don't work
[04:34] <BHSPitMonkey> didn't it already?
[04:34] <tristanmike> DanaG: you can try "alien" that converts a "rpm" into a "deb" but it can be sketchy at best
[04:35] <darthbator> and when my numlock is on the * key does not work :(
[04:35] <Machtyn> gekko': I've got it posted.
[04:35] <DanaG> It's a Motorola SM56 Data Fax Modem.
[04:35] <tristanmike> DanaG: or you should contact them and tell them an rpm is not good enough, you need a deb, there are plent of distros that use deb, they should help (should being the operative word there)
[04:36] <DanaG> Although it's not supposed to support caller ID,  it does work in Windows with PhoneTray Free.
[04:36] <nu> Anyone knows where eterm goes after you install it?
[04:36] <SuperLag> Is there any way to have cupsd not start on the livecd?
[04:36] <aeruz> nu: what do you mean where it goes ??
[04:36] <gekko`> nu: type 'Eterm' in terminal
[04:36] <gekko`> not eterm
[04:36] <nu> aeruz: i installed it through synaptic, can't find it
[04:37] <aeruz> do as gekko says
[04:37] <aeruz> Eterm
[04:37] <aeruz> with capital E
[04:37] <Jack_Sparrow> no eterm.. no cap
[04:37] <BHSPitMonkey> are there -supposed- to be words in the "Changes" field in the Update Manager, because I've never seen any, ever
[04:37] <nu> gekko`: but how to i get an icon for it? itd like ot make it my default term
[04:37] <BHSPitMonkey> just a little-used feature by the package makers?
[04:38] <ardchoille> nu: Choose an icon from one of the icon themes in /usr/share/icons
[04:38] <Jack_Sparrow> create launcher
[04:38] <GianLuigiBuffon> I donwloaded  	hplip-1.6.7.tar.gz for instaling a printer. How can I run that? (Ubuntu 6.06)
[04:38] <gekko`> Machtyn: which package did you install? nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-legacy?
[04:38] <nu> ardchoille: thank yoy
[04:38] <nu> you*
[04:38] <ardchoille> !info hplip
[04:38] <ubotu> hplip: HP Linux Printing and Imaging System (HPLIP). In repository main, is optional. Version 0.9.7-4ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 450 kB, installed size 1980 kB
[04:39] <ardchoille> nu: You're welcome
[04:39] <Machtyn> cowmilk: judging by the age of the motherboard, I would concur that it is USB 1
[04:39] <Machtyn> gekko': nvidia-glx
[04:40] <gekko`> Machtyn: and did you also install linux-restricted-modules?
[04:40] <Machtyn> gekko': yes, I did.
[04:40] <GianLuigiBuffon> but I don't understand what I must do with this file
[04:41] <jonc101> can some1 help me out getting the vmware license key to work, whenever i enter it in it tells me it's invalid, i searched on the vmware forums and some people have mentioned that this might be due to a missing library, now my installation complaining about glibc and libX.so.6.  how can i overcome this problem?  any help appreciated.
[04:41] <Machtyn> I used linux-restricted-modules-686
[04:41] <Jack_Sparrow> GianLuigiBuffon: the place where you got it should have instructions or you can get the driver from the repos like someone already suggested
[04:42] <mournahan> Jack_Sparrow: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=193283&highlight=dapper+hard+freeze this is my problem but cant find a solution any ideas
[04:42] <gekko`> Machtyn: ok, comment in the Bus ID line
[04:43] <ardchoille> GianLuigiBuffon: Is there a reason you aren't using hplip that is in the repos?
[04:43] <gekko`> Machtyn: line 349 according to the pastebin log
[04:43] <SeraVitae> Hey, this is the first time ubuntu has tried to update where i've got a 'unauthenticaed packages'.. is it safe, or should i wait for them to be authenticated?
[04:43] <jonc101> anyone?
[04:43] <Machtyn> gekko': okay, comment that out, or should I change Driver "nv" to Driver "nvidia" ?
[04:43] <Jack_Sparrow> mournahan: too many variables plus vmware.. sorry I will be of no help.
[04:44] <nicholaspaul> Q: is there a command to find out what format a partition is in? fdisk just tells me 'Linux'
[04:44] <gekko`> Machtyn: yes, also change 'nv' to 'nvidia' and start your Xserver
[04:44] <GianLuigiBuffon> I have the hplip repository installed
[04:44] <jonc101> no one?
[04:44] <Jack_Sparrow> nicholaspaul: you can use the partitioning program to id those
[04:44] <GianLuigiBuffon> but I dont know what to do....
[04:45] <GianLuigiBuffon> Add printer I dont find mine, but on the site mine is marked as available...
[04:45] <nicholaspaul> Jack_Sparrow:  i'm trying to do this over ssh
[04:45] <Machtyn> gekko':  Thanks I will give that a try
[04:45] <gekko`> jonc101: error logs?
[04:45] <forevertheuni> why isn't prozilla package for ubuntu :/
[04:45] <void^> nicholaspaul: you can 'file -s /dev/whatever', or just mount it.
[04:45] <mournahan> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=193283&highlight=dapper+hard+freeze anyone have any ideas on this problem?
[04:45] <dennis_> hi all
[04:45] <Jack_Sparrow> GianLuigiBuffon: what printer?
[04:46] <nicholaspaul> thx void^
[04:46] <GianLuigiBuffon> HP Deskjet F380 all in one jack_sparrow
[04:46] <dennis_> i am having a prob any one want to help
[04:46] <Ronz> !nvidia > Ronz
[04:46] <ardchoille> !ask
[04:46] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:47] <dennis_> i cant get wine to work
[04:47] <Drasla> a non-ubuntu question: my cd drive won't open or close.  button does nothing, even before the OS is loaded.  is it possible this is a BIOS problem, or is it necessarily mechanical?
[04:47] <gekko`> Drasla: did you check if it's mounted?
[04:48] <Drasla> gekko`: when I type 'mount' it's not listed.  is that what you mean?
[04:48] <void^> Drasla: disconnect the ide cable (power off first obviously), if it still won't open it's broken.
[04:48] <dennis_> i want to install unreal and i am new to linux cant get wine to work
[04:49] <gekko`> Drasla: yes. well, then it's not normal
[04:49] <Drasla> void^: thanks.  I'll try that.
[04:49] <Prince> Greetings.
[04:49] <Prince> Could I get some assistance?
[04:49] <Prince> I need the command to install Java on Ubuntu.
[04:49] <void^> !java
[04:49] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[04:50] <Prince> Thank you very much!
[04:50] <Jack_Sparrow> brb
[04:50] <mainer> mournahan: http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_vmware_server
[04:50] <dennis_> so can any one help
[04:51] <Machtyn> awesome!
[04:51] <ardchoille> dennis_: maybe /join #winehq ?
[04:51] <Linuturk> ok, i gotta say, there isn't a way to take an Outlook 2003 pst file and extract the contacts
[04:51] <mournahan> mainer: how will that help>
[04:51] <Linuturk> thank you MS for screwing me over
[04:51] <mainer> dennis http://winehq.com/   http://frankscorner.org/
[04:52] <mainer> mourbahan says it tells how on 6.06
[04:52] <dennis_> i did that
[04:52] <Machtyn> gekko: it turns out I copied the wrong xorg.conf file over, but it pointed me in the right direction.  After I followed step 10 from the nvidia install howto, it changed the BusID line to 0:5:0, so I changed it back to 0:8:0 and it works like a charme
[04:52] <mainer> sorry,i'm no gamer,old comp:(
[04:52] <floppyears> wow, the new installer
[04:52] <gekko`> Machtyn: alright
[04:52] <mournahan> mainer: having problems with dappper hard freezing
[04:52] <floppyears> doesn't even feel like installer
[04:52] <nu> ive been editing my linux for 11 hours (i installed it at 12pm)
[04:52] <nu> long time
[04:52] <floppyears> it's more like a desktop with a program running :)
[04:54] <Prince> Does java come pre-installed with Ubuntu?
[04:54] <cowmilk2> has anybody got gpodder on their box?
[04:54] <Prince> !shout
[04:54] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[04:54] <move> hi
[04:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !java
[04:54] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[04:55] <DanaG> Damn, those modem drivers are all kernel 2.4.
[04:55] <mainer> mournahan: memetest maybe/
[04:55] <mournahan> good did it already, have 1.256 gig of ram and default swap
[04:55] <Prince> What is the command to install Java on Xubuntu?
[04:58] <Drasla> interesting.  my disk i/o light's been constantly on for a month.  thought it was busted.  apparently, it was just a broken CD drive that was causing the light to remain on.
[04:59] <rixth> How can I found what tempature my CPU is running
[04:59] <nicholaspaul> k, this new disk doesnt show up in Gparted,  but it does in fdisk. How can i format?
[05:00] <mournahan> rixth: gdesklets
[05:00] <Tsukino> rixth, try acpi -t
[05:00] <rixth> No support for device type: thermal
[05:00] <Tsukino> you might not have any sensors on your computer
[05:01] <rixth> mournahan, I don't want to install gDesklets and they rely on libraries I think, they don't access the temperature directly
[05:01] <tripppy> !bluez-btsco
[05:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about bluez-btsco - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:01] <nicholaspaul> !format
[05:01] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[05:02] <Tsukino> does anyone in here know how to enable processor throttling in acpi in Gnome?
[05:02] <tripppy> !bluez
[05:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about bluez - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:02] <__chris_> how do i register this ubuntu room?
[05:02] <EpP> its a secret
[05:03] <mournahan> hahahaha
[05:03] <klees> how can i tell where files of a particular install reside???
[05:03] <DanaG> My CPU throttling doesn't work in Linux.
[05:03] <EpP> klees, find?
[05:03] <DanaG> It seems not to have VID/FID tables for Yonah.
[05:03] <ardchoille> __chris_: This channel was registered 2 years 7 weeks 2 days (3h 5m 30s) ago
[05:03] <bobbyd> hi
[05:04] <EpP> ey
[05:04] <klees> EpP: i dont know what the file names are
[05:04] <bobbyd> how do i completely remove all of X and make ubuntu just boot to the console?
[05:04] <DanaG> install lm_sensors and run sensors-detect, also.
[05:04] <__chris_> like register my nick name ... yah
[05:04] <EpP> klees, what is it?
[05:04] <__chris_> :)
[05:04] <klees> huh?
[05:04] <ardchoille> __chris_: /msh nickserv help register
[05:04] <__chris_> first need to think of a nickname... and register it
[05:04] <gekko`> nicholaspaul: man mkfs
[05:04] <EpP> klees, what is the progra?
[05:04] <ardchoille> __chris_: /msg nickserv help register   sorry, typo
[05:05] <klees> i just installed  grub-splashimages
[05:05] <klees> and need to know where the images are
[05:05] <EpP> hmm...
[05:05] <bobbyd> also, how do i disable the boot splash?
[05:05] <EpP> klees, hold.
[05:05] <__chris_> thanks ardchoille
[05:05] <EpP> search for grub?
[05:05] <EpP> klees, ^
[05:05] <ardchoille> bobbyd: I disabled the boot splash pic by removing the "splash" from the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:06] <bobbyd> ardchoille: thanks
[05:06] <bobbyd> ardchoille: did you then re-run some grub config tool?
[05:06] <mournahan> need help, dapper hard freezes 2-3 times daily and cant find any solution
[05:06] <jc> no, just reboot from there bobbyd
[05:06] <ardchoille> bobbyd: Nope, the splash was gone next time I rebooted
[05:07] <__chris_> how do you guys come up with your nicknames just curious... :)
[05:07] <cowmilk2> how do you guys get podcasts (http:/ ... .xml) into your iPodS?
[05:07] <bobbyd> ardchoille: ok thanks
[05:07] <klees> is there a way to set my boot resolution to:  1680x1050???
[05:08] <bobbyd> ardchoille: do you know how to make the console higher resolution too?
[05:08] <HBuzacott> cowmilk2, I use rhythmbox to download them and gtkpod to sync
[05:09] <HBuzacott> klees, what do mean 'boot resolution'?
[05:09] <ardchoille> bobbyd: I added  "vga=791" (without quotes) in place of the word "splash" in menu.lst and I got 1024x768
[05:09] <klees> when the system is booting
[05:09] <bobbyd> ardchoille: thanks :)
[05:10] <klees> same idea as ardchoille's message up top
[05:10] <HBuzacott> klees, As in system startup?
[05:10] <klees> HBuzacott: yes
[05:10] <ardchoille> bobbyd: Which was really nice as I often log into tty1 without X and use irssi in a screen session to chat :)
[05:10] <GianLuigiBuffon> I've installed the printer.... thanks!!!!!
[05:10] <ardchoille> klees: You'll have to find the proper vga setting for that res
[05:11] <Mufasa> hey all...  Trying to install ruby with apt-get.  The package installs but It doesn't install rdoc or irb has anyone installed these other items successfully.  I'd appreciate any insight.
[05:11] <klees> ardchoille: how can i do that?
[05:11] <HBuzacott> klees, follow ardchoille's talk with bobbyd is easyiest
[05:11] <ardchoille> klees: I don't have a list, but I have seen several. possibly google "vga=791" or something
[05:11] <GianLuigiBuffon> One question
[05:11] <jc> look up your monitor on google klees, you have to set up the hsync and vsync correctly
[05:11] <GianLuigiBuffon> I have installed a all-in-one... HP. How can I scan???????
[05:13] <GianLuigiBuffon> I got it
[05:13] <GianLuigiBuffon> :)
[05:14] <cowmilk2> HBuzacott: oh, yes i used rythimbox in my ubuntu days
[05:14] <cowmilk2> and i have gtkpod on now
[05:14] <cowmilk2> i use xubuntu now
[05:14] <cowmilk2> is there a smaller, more lightwegiht podcast program?
[05:15] <BHSPitMonkey> gtkpod is for transferring songs, not for downloading podcasts
[05:15] <cowmilk2> BHSPitMonkey: i was guessing that
[05:16] <BHSPitMonkey> and I don't know about lightweight
[05:16] <cowmilk2> BHSPitMonkey: so how do i download podcasts onto my xubuntu box? i'm looking for something that isn't too big or memory intesvine
[05:16] <HBuzacott> cowmilk2, podracer or ipodder perhaps
[05:16] <BHSPitMonkey> but I think amaroK does it
[05:16] <BHSPitMonkey> eh.
[05:16] <cowmilk2> HBuzacott: ipodder? aka juice?
[05:16] <cowmilk2> it's currently not aviaalbe on the website
[05:16] <ardchoille> klees: Maybe this will be of some help: http://wiki.antlinux.com/pmwiki.php?n=HowTos.VgaModes
[05:16] <cowmilk2> is ipodder avaialbe in repo?
[05:17] <cowmilk2> !ipodder
[05:17] <BHSPitMonkey> I can't wait till songbird or banshee are stable and ipod-supportive
[05:17] <ubotu> I know nothing about ipodder - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:17] <HBuzacott> cowmilk2, as per ... apt-get ... ipodder
[05:17] <cowmilk2> !info ipodder
[05:17] <ubotu> ipodder: a podcast receiver. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.1.9-4 (dapper), package size 640 kB, installed size 2648 kB
[05:17] <cowmilk2> ok
[05:17] <cowmilk2> i'm getting ipodder now
[05:17] <cowmilk2> is ipodder smaller than podracer, HBuzacott?
[05:17] <klees> ardchoille: thx i'll look there
[05:17] <cowmilk2> how can i determine which is lighter?
[05:18] <ardchoille> klees: Also look at this one: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=152575
[05:18] <HBuzacott> cowmilk2, it is but I don't beleive it has a GUI
[05:18] <knapper> Help, I had Xgl installed at one point, but then I removed it. Now when I boot up GDM/Xserver won't start. It's calling for Xgl, but cannot find it.
[05:19] <stylus-help> Could I get some compiling help on ubuntu?
[05:19] <cowmilk2> HBuzacott: ipodder doesn't have gui? oh. will it be easy to get the podcasts via terminal, i wonder.
[05:19] <bobbyd> knapper: remove the Load xgl line in your xorg.conf
[05:19] <bobbyd> knapper: or install the driver again
[05:19] <cowmilk2> if ipodder is smaller/lighter than podracer, then i'll give ipodder a try
[05:19] <nicholaspaul> HELP! sudo fdisk /dev/hdb says 'unable to open'. How can i format that drive?
[05:19] <bobbyd> stylus-help: what do you want to know?
[05:19] <cowmilk2> is it a good idea to use aptitude rather than apt-get
[05:20] <HBuzacott> cowmilk2, It has a daemon so I just assume it would have a .conf file somewhere that lists the casts
[05:20] <cowmilk2> ?
[05:20] <Unix_n_Coffee> There we go got my offical nickname! no more _chris__
[05:20] <stylus-help> bobbyd: allow me to paste something in the bin
[05:20] <knapper> bobbyd there is no load xgl line in xorg.conf
[05:20] <cowmilk2> daemon? conf file? HBuzacott. that's too linuxy for my understanding. 8-)
[05:20] <ardchoille> Unix_n_Coffee: That's two of the most addictive things in the world :)
[05:20] <cowmilk2> ardchoille: what about my nickname?
[05:20] <bobbyd> knapper: doh, I'l getting confused sorry, i thought you meant glx :)
[05:20] <Unix_n_Coffee> ardchoille thanks :) im very creative too :)
[05:21] <cowmilk2> ardchoille: isn't my nickname two (or one) of the most addictive thing(s) in the world? 8-)
[05:21] <Unix_n_Coffee> going to sell it on ebay i think my nick name :)
[05:21] <secleinteer> hey, has any1 had any problems with gcc 4.0.3 not being able to create executables? i was trying to compile irssi and i got this error
[05:21] <DanaG> DO you have libc6?
[05:21] <DanaG> I found I was missing it.
[05:22] <HBuzacott> cowmilk2, A daemon is a app that runs in the background do its work. It would have a file that it would read so it knows where to look. I am just installing it to see how it works.
[05:22] <secleinteer> libc6, how do i get that?
[05:22] <cowmilk2> HBuzacott: i ran the sudo aptitude install ipodder command. wow. it wants to instal a lot of packages
[05:22] <stylus-help> bobbyd: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19746 - how can I fix that? It seems that I don't have a c compiler..
[05:23] <Unix_n_Coffee>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[05:23] <gekko`> secleinteer: how about 'sudo apt-get install libc6'
[05:23] <bobbyd> stylus-help: did you "apt-get install build-essential" ?
[05:23] <HBuzacott> cowmilk2, hold on a sec and I'll what podracer is like
[05:23] <ardchoille> stylus-help: Firstly, what are you compiling? Secondly, did you sudo apt-get install build-essential  ?
[05:23] <Generic> how would i copy all the files that do NOT start with .?
[05:23] <cowmilk2> HBuzacott: ok. thanks
[05:23] <Generic> i want to backup my home directory, but i don't want to grab the config files
[05:23] <stylus-help> I'll try that command. ardchoille, you should know what I'm compiling if you read the pastebin.
[05:24] <cowmilk2> this is what new packages will be installed if i install ipodder: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19747
[05:24] <secleinteer> gekko`: nope i already have libc6
[05:24] <bobbyd> stylus-help: that should be "sudo apt-get install build-essential" ?
[05:24] <gekko`> secleinteer: so where is your problem?
[05:24] <_priest> Generic: tar cvjf --exclude=.dir backup.tar.bz2 ~/
[05:25] <stylus-help> bobbyd: yeah.
[05:25] <secleinteer> when i try to compile irssi, it cant make execs
[05:25] <secleinteer> some with a confdefs.h
[05:25] <_priest> Generic: use --exclude=.dir for every directory you want to exclude
[05:25] <lulz> L  Y     A  Z  H  Y     U  L  G  O     L  Y     A  Z  H  Y     U
[05:25] <bobbyd> secleinteer: see the help I gave for stylus-help
[05:25] <lulz> O     L  Y     A  Z  H  Y     U  L  G  O     L  Y     A  Z  H  Y
[05:25] <lulz> L  G  O     L  Y     A  Z  H  Y     U  L  G  O     L  Y     A  Z
[05:25] <lulz>    U  L  G  O     L  Y     A  Z  H  Y     U  L  G  O     L  Y
[05:25] <ardchoille> stylus-help: You realise that XChat is in the repos?
[05:25] <lulz> H  Y     U  L  G  O     L  Y     A  Z  H  Y     U  L  G  O
[05:25] <lulz> A  Z  H  Y     U  L  G  O     L  Y     A  Z  H  Y     U  L  G
[05:25] <lulz> DOOD KAPZ LOKK ROOLZ
[05:25] <secleinteer> k
[05:25] <cowmilk2> lulz: what are you doing?
[05:25] <lulz> BAWB CLITSAQ FROM THASHITASSNUGGETREWMJUICE
[05:25] <lulz> ONE TYME EYE WENIT 2 THA SKEWL  AND THEY TRIDE TO LERN MUH AYAZZ SUM CRAP BUT EYE KILLT DEM ALL CUZ DEY WUZ UHG-LEE
[05:25] <_priest> being a tarrd
[05:25] <secleinteer> trolling
[05:25] <stylus-help> ardchoille: that isn['t the latest version of xchat is it?
[05:25] <Generic> .ircops
[05:26] <Generic> _priest, would .* work fine too?
[05:26] <ardchoille> !info xchat
[05:26] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 254 kB, installed size 720 kB
[05:26] <ardchoille> stylus-help: I guess not
[05:26] <_priest> Generic: i dont think --exclude takes globbing
[05:26] <stylus-help> ardchoille: nod
[05:26] <_priest> Generic: i think i tried that before but it didnt like that
[05:26] <cowmilk2> how do i learn more about a package in repo?
[05:26] <stylus-help> bobbyd: after that install has finished should xchat work?
[05:26] <secleinteer> i'm trying sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:26] <secleinteer> but i don't know if that will help
[05:26] <bobbyd> stylus-help: well, you should able to compile stuff :)
[05:27] <cowmilk2> !info ubuntu-standard
[05:27] <ubotu> ubuntu-standard: The Ubuntu standard system. In repository main, is standard. Version 0.120 (dapper), package size 12 kB, installed size 40 kB
[05:27] <HBuzacott> cowmilk2, is actually pretty simple, I would recommend it
[05:27] <cowmilk2> HBuzacott: did you see the things it wanted to install?
[05:27] <HBuzacott> cowmilk2, an it's tiny
[05:27] <stylus-help> bobbyd: thanks for the help for now. I'll be back if there is a problem. :P
[05:27] <_priest> does anyone do network installs of ubuntu
[05:27] <_priest> i need to find some info on it
[05:27] <cowmilk2> yes, maybe ipodder is tiny, but it wanted to install 70 megs!
[05:27] <HBuzacott> cowmilk2, podracer has two dependencies
[05:27] <Killeroid> !networking >> Killeroid
[05:27] <cowmilk2> HBuzacott: if so, why the long list? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19747
[05:28] <HBuzacott> cowmilk2, podracer not ipodder
[05:28] <Killeroid> !networking >>Killeroid
[05:28] <crashtest> anybody know how to specifiy an interrupt to an ethernet driver module at boot?
[05:28] <Killeroid> !networking
[05:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about networking - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:28] <Unix_n_Coffee> podracer does it support ipod video?
[05:28] <Killeroid> !wireless
[05:28] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:28] <nicholaspaul> Anyone know how i can format a disk that doesnt show up in fdisk?
[05:28] <_priest> crashtest: you can't
[05:28] <Evil_Ed`> Hi
[05:28] <_priest> crashtest: you can let the OS handle IRQ assigning or the bios
[05:28] <crashtest> please tell me you're kidding
[05:29] <cowmilk2> HBuzacott: oh, so you're saying that podracer is lighter than ipodder?
[05:29] <_priest> crashtest: i assume you are getting irq conflicts
[05:29] <cowmilk2> plesae confirm
[05:29] <bobbyd> stylus-help: np
[05:29] <degreez> thanks guys... g`nite
[05:29] <crashtest> i've got a 1.09TB raid array I can't write to because of this stupidity.
[05:29] <HBuzacott> Unix_n_Coffee, I don't see why not
[05:29] <secleinteer> yes, it worked
[05:29] <Unix_n_Coffee> HBuzacott how do you ocnvert a avi or mpeg movie to ipod video?
[05:29] <secleinteer> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:29] <Evil_Ed`> confidential
[05:29] <crashtest> literally can't transfer via ethernet because the ethernet dies
[05:29] <HBuzacott> cowmilk2, it is just over 98kB
[05:29] <HBuzacott> tiny
[05:30] <_priest> crashtest: is ethernet at half duplex
[05:30] <stylus-help> bobbyd: It cannot find glib now?
[05:30] <HBuzacott> Unix_n_Coffee, I've got an iPod photo so, no idea, sorry
[05:30] <stylus-help> Care to help me attain such a program?
[05:30] <Unix_n_Coffee> HBuzacott its ok thanks :)
[05:30] <crashtest> i've assigned the card an interrupt in the BIOS, but the OS seems to ignore it and insist on using a shared IRQ.
[05:30] <cowmilk2> HBuzacott: podracer wants to install the following:  bittorrent ca-certificates curl libcurl3 libidn11 openssl timeout
[05:30] <cowmilk2> you said ony 2 depencies?
[05:30] <_priest> crashtest: yea you need to use something like pci=biosirq
[05:31] <_priest> crashtest: because the OS is taking over the assignment
[05:31] <crashtest> where would I specify that?
[05:31] <_priest> crashtest: you have to tell the kernel to let the BIOS assign the irq
[05:31] <_priest> crashtest: you can assign it in the grub menu.lst file
[05:31] <_priest> crashtest: append it to the kernel line
[05:31] <stylus-help> could anyone help me get glib on my computer?
[05:31] <HBuzacott> cowmilk2, sorry I forgot that you where on xubuntu, it should be five with nothing installed, on Ubuntu it should be 2
[05:31] <_priest> stylus-help: you have glib on your computer
[05:31] <_priest> stylus-help: its the most used set of libraries
[05:32] <HBuzacott> cowmilk2, I'm guessing that those would be depenacies of the depenacies
[05:32] <cowmilk2> HBuzacott: what do you mean "it should be five"...
[05:32] <stylus-help> _priest: then how come it doesn't get detected?
[05:32] <cowmilk2> did you mean "fine"
[05:32] <_priest> crashtest: search google for pci= or biosirq
[05:32] <_priest> crashtest: i cant remember the exact option
[05:32] <_priest> crashtest: you can also get the kernel documentation and check there as well
[05:32] <_priest> stylus-help: whats the problem
[05:33] <HBuzacott> cowmilk2, it should be five, but the rest are probably dependencies of podracer's dependencies. But it should be 'fine', I don't think that they should take up much space though
[05:33] <cl187> ok
[05:33] <cowmilk2> HBuzacott: ok. i'm getting podracer now. thanks so so so much!
[05:33] <cl187> so i cant get my wireless working
[05:34] <cowmilk2> HBuzacott: hmmm. it uses bittorrent?
[05:34] <cl187> its a broadcom wireless card
[05:34] <cowmilk2> 8-)
[05:34] <cl187> in a dell
[05:34] <Unix_n_Coffee> you guys wanna see my ubuntu desktop ? :)
[05:34] <shadeofgrey> whats the commandline command to make a file readable writeable and executable by every user?
[05:34] <cl187> any ideas
[05:34] <ttyfscker> cl187:: yea
[05:34] <stylus-help> _priest: it can't find glib 2.0.3 (the ./configure of xchat)
[05:34] <ttyfscker> cl187:: you need the ndis wrappers for that specific card
[05:34] <cowmilk2> HBuzacott: will you be using podracer now, or are you sticking with rythymbox
[05:34] <cowmilk2> ?
[05:34] <jc> chmod o+rw shade
[05:34] <ttyfscker> cl187:: i can give you a link if you can hold a sec
[05:34] <HBuzacott> cowmilk2, After install you just need to add your feeds to ~/.podracer/subscriptions
[05:34] <cl187> yeah i can hold on.. thanks man
[05:34] <_priest> stylus-help: maybe you need the dev package
[05:35] <stylus-help> _priest: is there a command to get that?
[05:35] <cowmilk2> how do i do this addition?
[05:35] <cowmilk2> you mean in gtkpod, HBuzacott
[05:35] <cowmilk2> ?
[05:35] <HBuzacott> cowmilk2, I will probably use podracer so I don't need to open rhythmbox all the time
[05:35] <_priest> stylus-help: well you can use synaptic and search for glib
[05:35] <shadeofgrey> and whats the command to set the root password
[05:35] <_priest> stylus-help: and install the development package
[05:35] <shadeofgrey> i forgewt
[05:35] <_priest> shadeofgrey: passwd
[05:35] <jc> sudo su -
[05:35] <jc> passwd
[05:35] <ttyfscker> cl187:: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174&highlight=bcm+4318
[05:35] <stylus-help> _priest: is synaptic that Add/Remove programs thing on the Applications list?
[05:36] <HBuzacott> cowmilk2, no, the feeds that you want podracer to download should be written in ~/.podracer/sub...
[05:36] <ttyfscker> cl187:: download the one WITHOUT network manager
[05:36] <stylus-help> _priest: I  can't find anything to do with glib in that list... is there a command I can put into the kernel to get the dev version?
[05:36] <stylus-help> kernel = console
[05:36] <cl187> thank you ttyfscker
[05:37] <ttyfscker> what package contains the gtk 2.0 - development libs?
[05:37] <ttyfscker> cl187:: no prob
[05:37] <darthbator> hey is there a way to make the always on top option in VLC work with compiz
[05:37] <shadeofgrey> thanks everybody
[05:38] <jc> np shadeofgrey
[05:38] <Unix_n_Coffee> http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/8466/screenshotvh9.png
[05:38] <HBuzacott> cowmilk2, I'm off, hope that it all works for you.
[05:38] <Unix_n_Coffee> :)
[05:38] <_priest> stylus-help: try sudo apt-get install glib-dev
[05:38] <stylus-help> ok
[05:39] <lhds> when i try to type make menuconfig it gives me bad command or file name... do  i have to download a certain package for make to work ?
[05:39] <_priest> stylus-help: or sudo apt-get install builddep xchat
[05:39] <Unix_n_Coffee> isnt it cool my ubuntu system !? :)
[05:39] <cowmilk2> ok, HBuzacottthanks
[05:39] <_priest> oops build-dep
[05:39] <cowmilk2> HBuzacott: thanks
[05:39] <ttyfscker> i cant find any libgtk2-0 development libraries in the repos.. does anyone know what package they are in?
[05:39] <ttyfscker> checking for GTK - version >= 1.2.0... no
[05:39] <_priest> ttyfscker: thats not gtk2
[05:39] <cl187> hey ttyfscker do i need a active connection to set this shit up?
[05:40] <cowmilk2> HBuzacott: i chose "Yes" in "Would you like a sample subscription file?" but it's taking so long to download
[05:40] <secleinteer> i got to the end of the configure of irssi and it said that it would install glib, but synaptic says glib is already installed - does any1 know why?
[05:40] <cowmilk2> and i can't find the podracer folder, HBuzacott
[05:40] <stylus-help> _priest: it couldn't be found.
[05:40] <_priest> secleinteer: you need glib-dev
[05:40] <secleinteer> ok
[05:40] <secleinteer> thx
[05:40] <lhds> how to make make work?
[05:40] <cowmilk2> HBuzacott: oh it's .podracer, and not podrace
[05:40] <cowmilk2> r
[05:40] <ttyfscker> _priest:: i know its not 2.0
[05:40] <_priest> ttyfscker: so you are looking for libgtk2 dev files
[05:41] <ttyfscker> _priest::  they will work its just for a plugin for bmp
[05:41] <stylus-help> _priest: how can I get into synaptic so I can find the glib-dev ?
[05:41] <ttyfscker> 1.2 - 2.x will work
[05:41] <[IL] Yoni> Hi all
[05:41] <cowmilk2> HBuzacott: i think i figured out what's taking so long. the sample list has many podcasts!
[05:41] <slavik> partitioner freezes at 50% of launching :(
[05:41] <stylus-help> _priest: don't worry - found it I think
[05:42] <mathieu_> i'm trying to mount an initrd image to modify it but I am not able to mount it even after gunzip
[05:42] <slavik> could it be because one of the drives I have is sATA?
[05:42] <[IL] Yoni> I've been installed on my primary hard drive Ubuntu 6.06 & on my secondary hard drive Windows XP, who can hewlp me with creatin' a dual boot with grub?
[05:42] <[IL] Yoni> I got the Wiki HowTo but I didn't understund it :\
[05:42] <_priest> i dont understand why apt-get doesn't come with a search
[05:42] <slavik> [IL] Yoni: what don't you understand?
[05:42] <mathieu_> when i run "file" on the file i get that it is a cpio archive
[05:42] <cl187> hmmm
[05:42] <cl187> might be to drunk to do thi\s
[05:43] <cl187> heh
[05:43] <[IL] Yoni> yep this too :)
[05:43] <mister_roboto> _priest: it does come with a search... apt-cache search
[05:43] <_priest> mister_roboto: ah
[05:43] <rixxon> why can't i get wlan working?
[05:43] <[IL] Yoni> I just didnt understund why should I need to reinstall the grub :\
[05:43] <stylus-help> libglib2.0-dev is the file name, _priest?
[05:44] <Jack_Sparrow> [IL] Yoni: have you edited the grub and can you post the wiki you used
[05:44] <_priest> mister_roboto: ahh this is what i was looking for
[05:44] <mister_roboto> _priest: :)
[05:44] <stylus-help> That's the closest I could find in synaptic..
[05:44] <_priest> stylus-help: yea looks like it
[05:44] <mathieu_> rixxon: what is the problem ?
[05:44] <Jack_Sparrow> [IL] Yoni: Did you install windows first?
[05:44] <_priest> mister_roboto: i come from fedora used to rpm :D
[05:44] <rixxon> mathieu, err, it doesn't work? :P
[05:44] <[IL] Yoni> noop I didn't edited the grub, although I was thinkin thias is what should I do :\
[05:44] <slavik> dependency hell?
[05:44] <mister_roboto> _priest: use the "--names-only" arg if you want to search only on the package names and not the description as well
[05:44] <_priest> slavik: thats been squashed long time ago
[05:44] <mathieu_> rixxon: do you connect to the internal network ?
[05:45] <slavik> _priest: by what? urpmi?
[05:45] <tripppy> how does one pair ubuntu with a mobile phone device?
[05:45] <nu_> nu_: testing colors
[05:45] <_priest> mister_roboto: awesome, off the top of your head whats the easiest way to find what package owns /lib/file.so?
[05:45] <slavik> which breaks itself during the upgrade cycle ...
[05:45] <rixxon> mathieu, any wlan
[05:45] <_priest> slavik: yum
[05:45] <slavik> yumex is a joke compared to synaptic
[05:46] <_priest> slavik: they both have their purposes
[05:46] <_priest> they are only as good as what they interface with
[05:46] <slavik> I like to know dependecy problems when removing stuff right when I select them ... not when I am about to remove it and then I don't even know what got added from what
[05:46] <mister_roboto> _priest: hmmm... dpkg -L lists the files in a package.... thinking   you don't know the package...
[05:46] <slavik> _priest: then yum is not as nice as apt ...
[05:46] <secleinteer> _priest: i'm getting an error saying install ncurses-devel now
[05:46] <_priest> mister_roboto: yea in fedora you can do rpm -qf /lib/file.so
[05:46] <mister_roboto> _priest: dpkg -S
[05:46] <secleinteer> do u know how to fix this?
[05:46] <_priest> mister_roboto: will show what package owns this file
[05:47] <mister_roboto> _priest: dpkg is the lower level util that apt-xxx uses
[05:47] <cl187> ok here is another fucked up question... is there anyway to make a build inside windows so you know when u boot up ubuntu you have full driver suport?
[05:47] <_priest> secleinteer: apt-get install ncurses-devel
[05:47] <slavik> mister_roboto: lower case L lists all installed packages (if no package is given :D)
[05:47] <_priest> mister_roboto: yea i read through dpkg didnt see that though
[05:47] <_priest> mister_roboto: lemme check that out
[05:47] <mister_roboto> _priest: look at -S
[05:47] <slavik> _priest: looks at rdepends, too :)
[05:47] <secleinteer> _priest: it couldn't find the package
[05:48] <_priest> mister_roboto: that'll search for a file kind of like locate
[05:48] <[IL] Yoni> I installed windows & ubuntu seperatlly
[05:48] <_priest> mister_roboto: won't tell you what package it belongs to
[05:48] <Jack_Sparrow> [IL] Yoni: which first?
[05:48] <[IL] Yoni> each on a specific hard drive, while the another one isn't plug
[05:48] <[IL] Yoni> Ubuntu act on the primary hard drive
[05:48] <slavik> paritioner load stop at 50% during install, could it be because of a sATA drive?
[05:49] <Jack_Sparrow> [IL] Yoni: is that what the wiki told you to do..?
[05:49] <stylus-help> _priest: now there are make issues. It seems it doesn't have all the tools. Can anyone point me towards other programs which may be needed to "make" stuff?
[05:49] <cygnus> is ubuntu better at support newer hardware than debian ?
[05:49] <[IL] Yoni> I readed the wiki after I installed bouth of them :\
[05:49] <slavik> stylus-help: build-essential
[05:49] <stylus-help> slavik: I have that.
[05:49] <void^> cygnus: there are slightly more precompiled modules available, especially non-free ones
[05:49] <slavik> hmm
[05:49] <slavik> then automake
[05:49] <stylus-help> automake?
[05:49] <stylus-help> What's that?
[05:50] <slavik> use synaptic and search for automake 1.9
[05:50] <_priest> stylus-help: what does the xchat website say you need
[05:50] <_priest> thats probably the best place
[05:50] <slavik> it generates stuff ...
[05:50] <Jack_Sparrow> [IL] Yoni: I would set windows as primary drive ub as secondary then try the super grub repair disc
[05:50] <slavik> oh, and find gnumake
[05:50] <stylus-help> Couldn't find a list like that _priest?
[05:50] <stylus-help> alright, will try them.
[05:50] <slavik> xchat? just use gaim
[05:50] <_priest> or irssi
[05:50] <stylus-help> I am slavik..
[05:50] <_priest> :D
[05:50] <cygnus> void^: do you use debian too ?
[05:50] <slavik> so, what's the problem?
[05:51] <Jack_Sparrow> [IL] Yoni: or windows as  primary drive and reinstall ub on secondary
[05:51] <[IL] Yoni> there is no way to edit grub to call Windows paratition?:\
[05:51] <slavik> yes there is
[05:51] <stylus-help> I'm trying to learn how to install a program slavik! ^_^
[05:51] <void^> cygnus: yes.
[05:51] <slavik> does 'grub-update' find and install proper stuff?
[05:51] <stylus-help> and have been failing terribly so far.
[05:51] <spc> slavik: love gaim, but wasn't that impressed with it's irc last time I tried to use it.
[05:51] <_priest> [IL] Yoni: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot?highlight=%28dualboot%29
[05:51] <slavik> stylus-help: easy, open synaptic and search for stuff you want
[05:52] <slavik> spc: what version was that?
[05:52] <Jack_Sparrow> [IL] Yoni: windows insists on primary position
[05:52] <darthbator> anyone have any ideas on why my keyboard would happen to have a numlock issue
[05:52] <farous> [IL] Yoni: open the /boot/grub/menu.lst file and you will see an example there
[05:52] <_priest> stylus-help: where is it failing at in the make
[05:52] <_priest> stylus-help: have you passed the ./configure part yet?
[05:52] <darthbator> or why my VLC won't actually stay on top of my other windows with the always on top option
[05:52] <stylus-help> _priest: yes.
[05:52] <slavik> it's not as good as a real client (no file autosave so I can't leech porn from irc :() but the more people use it the more inclide ethan will be to put features in
[05:52] <stylus-help> It just said type make and pray.
[05:52] <spc> slavik: it was on windows, actually.  1.5, I think?  Not 2.0 - I'm still waiting for that (though now I'm on Ubuntu I need to get gaim set up here).
[05:53] <stylus-help> so I did, _priest. Then at the end of make there were some errors.
[05:53] <slavik> spc: move your profile over :)
[05:53] <stylus-help> _priest: do I need to redo a ./configure each time I want to make?
[05:53] <_priest> stylus-help: what are the errors
[05:53] <_priest> stylus-help: nah
[05:53] <[IL] Yoni> farous, thanks I'll try that :)
[05:53] <cowmilk2> is there a good reason why gpodder isnt' included in the repo?
[05:53] <spc> slavik: is it easy?  Thanks for the recommendation, I'll definitely try
[05:53] <stylus-help> I'll put them in the pastebin _priest.
[05:53] <cygnus> cowmilk2: whats gpodder ?
[05:53] <_priest> k
[05:53] <[IL] Yoni> thanks all for all of the help :)
[05:54] <farous> [IL] Yoni: good luck :)
[05:54] <slavik> spc: I did a simple file copy from proper to proper location :)
[05:54] <spc> slavik: thanks, I'll give it a try.
[05:54] <slavik> stylus-help: you redo ./configure only if you want to change something
[05:54] <slavik> spc: same with firefox and thunderbird :D
[05:55] <AngryElf> okay, i'm out of ideas -- mythfrontend is still saying /dev/dsp is being used by another app.....but nothing is running, now what?
[05:55] <spc> slavik: is 1.5 still latest release, or is 2.0 nearing completion?  I'm hoping they have voice in 2.0!
[05:55] <mister_roboto> priest, i came up with a really ugly way to do it :)
[05:55] <cowmilk2> cygnus: an application that downloads podcasts onto your hard drive.
[05:55] <slavik> 2.0 does not get voice ><
[05:55] <mister_roboto> _priest: I came up with a really ugly way to do it
[05:55] <_priest> mister_roboto: oh yea?
[05:55] <spc> slavik: I thought it was more complicated with firefox profiles.  I'll have to try, then!
[05:55] <_priest> mister_roboto: how'd you get it
[05:55] <mister_roboto> for n in `dpkg -l |tr -s ' ' |cut -d ' ' -f2`; do echo $n; dpkg -L $n|grep scpi\.1\.gz&& break; done
[05:55] <cowmilk2> that's what gpodder is
[05:55] <stylus-help> _priest: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19749
[05:55] <mister_roboto> _priest: i said it's ugly :)
[05:55] <taigeR__> i am trying to setup my WPA wireless network
[05:55] <taigeR__> and I get Association request to the driver failed
[05:55] <stylus-help> I get that at the end... some things couldn't be found during the make as well.
[05:55] <stylus-help> like GTK?
[05:55] <mister_roboto> _priest: grep for the string you want
[05:55] <_priest> mister_roboto: ahh thats actually nice looking :)
[05:56] <slavik> spc: you have to replace the profiles.ini, too or edit it or backitup first then edit it
[05:56] <mister_roboto> _priest: there must be an easier way but i don't know it offhand
[05:56] <slavik> stylus-help: paste the stuff that is before that
[05:56] <slavik> stylus-help: paste the entire stuff from you typing the command :)
[05:57] <mister_roboto> _priest: if there are multiple matches on the same string, it will break on the first
[05:57] <slavik> pastbin won't mind :)
[05:57] <_priest> mister_roboto: interesting
[05:57] <stylus-help> slavik: ok. :-)
[05:57] <spc> slavik: edit how?
[05:57] <_priest> mister_roboto: ill need to look further into this
[05:57] <_priest> stylus-help: you need to paste more
[05:57] <slavik> spc: to add the newly copied profiles and to change the default one
[05:57] <mister_roboto> i plugged in a file that matched on the first package to make sure the loop stopped when it was found :)
[05:57] <slavik> spc: you code by any chance?
[05:58] <nicholaspaul> Anyone know how to format fromt the command line?
[05:58] <_priest> mister_roboto: hehe yea i was kind of curious about that :D
[05:58] <cowmilk2> HBuzacott: i'm trying podrace now. everytime an mp3 file from the xml list is downloaded. i get a curl error
[05:58] <cowmilk2> HBuzacott: let me know about your experienc with podracer, ok?
[05:58] <kr3wza> Lol, internet.
[05:58] <mister_roboto> _priest:  use whatever file you're looking for after the grep. should work
[05:58] <slavik> spc: editing the profiles.ini is very easy, will take about 30 seconds :) the default one is like 7 lines total or something
[05:58] <_priest> mister_roboto: cool man thx
[05:59] <slavik> stylus-help: you there?
[05:59] <stylus-help> yup
[05:59] <stylus-help> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19750
[05:59] <slavik> good
[06:00] <slavik> ahh, for starters, perl-dev is not installed (that is probably not the correct package name)
[06:00] <_priest> yea missing perl headers
[06:00] <stylus-help> alright, I'll look for that one.
[06:00] <stylus-help> in synaptic?
[06:00] <_priest> sure
[06:01] <slavik> yes
[06:01] <cowmilk2> anybody here use podracer?
[06:01] <slavik> just search for perl and one of them should be perl*-dev where * is some version string or something
[06:01] <stylus-help> libperl-dev slavik?
[06:01] <slavik> yes
[06:01] <slavik> looks like it is it
[06:01] <stylus-help> nod, installing.
[06:02] <slavik> stylus-help: are you doing make install? I would advise against that
[06:02] <stylus-help> I just tried make install after make.
[06:02] <slavik> stylus-help: find 'checkinstall'
[06:02] <stylus-help> another program?
[06:02] <slavik> checkinstall is "safer"
[06:02] <slavik> yes
[06:02] <stylus-help> alright.
[06:03] <stylus-help> what's the command then instead of make install?
[06:03] <_priest> checkinstall
[06:03] <mister_roboto> _priest: you still there?
[06:03] <slavik> basically, checkinstall will compile for you but instead of installing stuff, it will create a .deb file that you can then install with dpkg
[06:03] <_priest> mister_roboto: yea
[06:03] <slavik> which would also allow you to uninstall your stuff
[06:03] <nicholaspaul> How do i format a disk?
[06:03] <slavik> thus not needing you to keep the sources there
[06:03] <mister_roboto> _priest: this is a lot faster if you only print the package name after the find:   for n in `dpkg -l |tr -s ' ' |cut -d ' ' -f2`; do dpkg -L $n|grep \/lib\/libc\.so\.6 && echo $n && break; done
[06:03] <mister_roboto> _priest: i'm done playing with this ugly kludge now. gonna look for a better way :)
[06:04] <stylus-help> ah, ok slavik. synaptic have it?
[06:04] <_priest> mister_roboto: hehe ok
[06:04] <slavik> checkinstall, should be there
[06:04] <stylus-help> Alright.
[06:04] <farous> nicholaspaul: mkfs i would suggest man mkfs to know all the options
[06:04] <slavik> if not: http://asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall/download.php
[06:04] <slavik> download the Debian bianry package
[06:04] <slavik> then sudo dpkg -i checkinstall.deb
[06:05] <slavik> or change as appropriate :)
[06:05] <stylus-help> alright, will do that now. :-)
[06:05] <nicholaspaul> farous: thx mate
[06:05] <stylus-help> how would I need to change it though?
[06:05] <farous> :)
[06:05] <slavik> you need to put in the actual name of the file ;)
[06:05] <cygnus> if you have a hyperthreading cpu do you need to use an smp kernel?
[06:05] <stylus-help> ah, hehe
[06:05] <_priest> cygnus: yea
[06:05] <_priest> cygnus: you dont have to
[06:05] <slavik> cygnus: I would install i686 kernel either way :)
[06:06] <cygnus> yes but i686-smp or just i686 one
[06:06] <slavik> there should be only one ...
[06:06] <slavik> I think
[06:07] <cygnus> ill try smp
[06:07] <stylus-help> slavik, installed check install.
[06:07] <slavik> sweet
[06:07] <stylus-help> Now that I have perl-dev as well, should I try make in the directory again?
[06:08] <slavik> now, instead of that make && make install business, you can do 'sudo checkinstall' and answer some questions and bam, you get a deb file :D
[06:08] <slavik> use checkinstall this time though
[06:08] <mister_roboto> _priest: !!!!  dpkg -S does exactly that. thought you said it didn't print the package name. it's the first thing it prints
[06:09] <stylus-help> so the command slavik, is?
[06:09] <stylus-help> sudo checkinstall ?
[06:09] <|thunder> try man checkinstall
[06:09] <cowmilk2> what's the best way to install a .deb file that i got from http://perli.net/projekte/gpodder/downloads.html? I'm on Xubuntu.
[06:10] <_priest> mister_roboto: hahaha how'd i miss that
[06:10] <digital> Anything new with Ubuntu todya?
[06:10] <|thunder> cow, try man dpkg
[06:10] <mister_roboto> _priest: oh well... shook off a little rust with shell scripts  :D
[06:11] <slavik> stylus-help: yes
[06:11] <troytroy> linuxboy: hi were u one asking bout amarok plugins
[06:11] <slavik> also, the deb stuff can be installed with udebi :D
[06:11] <_priest> mister_roboto: i wasn't even paying attention
[06:11] <_priest> mister_roboto: :D
[06:11] <slavik> or whatever that thingy is
[06:12] <_priest> mister_roboto: man its late i need to sleep i guess
[06:12] <shawnr_> are ubuntu and ubuntu64bit repositories the same?
[06:12] <cowmilk2> thunder, how did you type the first charaacter of your nickname?
[06:12] <stylus-help> slavik, just "checkinstall" worked, it seems.
[06:12] <kr3wza> blah...
[06:12] <stylus-help> It's going through all the work atm
[06:12] <slavik> stylus-help: you want to do sudo checkinstall though
[06:12] <kr3wza> I forget how to navigate in the linux.
[06:12] <mister_roboto> _priest: at least you found the answer :)
[06:12] <kr3wza> Terminal.
[06:12] <|thunder> there is no udebi im ,y universe
[06:12] <|thunder> there is no udebi im my universe
[06:12] <stylus-help> arg, should I just resubmit the command after it has finished?
[06:12] <slavik> cd, pwd, ch, ls
[06:12] <_priest> mister_roboto: yea man thanks!
[06:12] <slavik> stylus-help: only if there are errors
[06:12] <shawnr_> are ubuntu and ubuntu-64bit repositories the same?
[06:13] <slavik> shawnr_: I would guess no
[06:13] <|thunder> some 64 bit arch is not available
[06:13] <stylus-help> slavik, it still said it was done and the deb was created.
[06:13] <slavik> ok
[06:13] <stylus-help> Do I need to re do it with a sudo?
[06:13] <slavik> then sudo dpkg -i that sucker :D
[06:13] <|thunder> but the repo urls are the same
[06:13] <kr3wza> now I see my problem with terminal
[06:13] <slavik> nah
[06:13] <kr3wza> It's case sensitive.
[06:13] <stylus-help> hehe, will do.
[06:13] <jeeaar> hey, quick question. how can i check to see if my version it kernel 2.6+?
[06:13] <slavik> jeeaar: if it's ubuntu, it is :)
[06:13] <shawnr_> uname
[06:13] <nrdb> I have just reset the computer but mozilla-thunderbird insist that it is allready running how do I fix this?
[06:13] <jeeaar> :)
[06:14] <slavik> jeeaar: uname -r
[06:14] <slavik> nrdb: was thunderbird running when you reset?
[06:14] <shawnr_> does anyone know where i can get a look at the package list for the ubuntu 64-bit repositories?
[06:14] <|thunder> jeeaar, dmesg | grep -i version
[06:14] <nrdb> slavik: i think so
[06:14] <slavik> and was it the shutdown restart or was it a hardware reset?
[06:14] <|thunder> or just dmesg and look at the top
[06:15] <nrdb> slavik: a restart
[06:15] <stylus-help> slavik, I think it worked..
[06:15] <stylus-help> Unpacking xchat (from xchat_2.6.6-1_i386.deb) ...
[06:15] <stylus-help> Setting up xchat (2.6.6-1) ...
[06:15] <slavik> yup :D
[06:15] <stylus-help> awesome. ;D
[06:15] <slavik> now, you should have xchat under internet applications
[06:15] <stylus-help> So now how do I use the program?
[06:15] <shawnr_> does anyone know where i can get a look at the package list for the ubuntu 64-bit repositories?
[06:15] <stylus-help> no? :(
[06:15] <|thunder> i install xchat with automatix
[06:16] <stylus-help> slavik, it isn't there. Do I need to restart first?
[06:16] <lastnode> stylus-help, http://packages.ubuntu.com/ ?
[06:16] <slavik> stylus-help: you might
[06:16] <slavik> stylus-help: try logging out and in
[06:16] <nicholaspaul> farous: i tried mkfs and it doesnt recognise /dev/hdb
[06:16] <stylus-help> alright. lastnode, what's that link for?
[06:16] <farous> nicholaspaul: which partition
[06:16] <lastnode> stylus-help, look at that
[06:16] <farous> /dev/hdb1 or 2 or what
[06:17] <lastnode> stylus-help, you can search the repos
[06:17] <stylus-help> lastnode, how will that help me now?
[06:17] <slavik> if that doesn't work, we can create a custom launcher
[06:17] <nicholaspaul> farous: /dev/hdb its a drive i just installed. theres just a couple of partitions i dont need on it - OS9
[06:17] <lastnode> shit sorry
[06:17] <lastnode> my bad, that was for slavik
[06:17] <|thunder> or alacarte
[06:17] <lastnode> sorry, it's early, eyes are wierd :)
[06:17] <wthww> how do i format my zip drive?
[06:17] <stylus-help> no worries, lastnode. :-)
[06:17] <stylus-help> slavik, ok
[06:18] <nrdb> I have a problem with thunderbird it is insisting that it is allready running what do I need to do to change its mind? :(
[06:18] <farous> nicholaspaul: give me a min
[06:18] <nicholaspaul> farous: sure
[06:18] <slavik> nrdb: it could be some kind of a corruption issue, I would run it in terminala nd pastebin the output
[06:18] <jeeaar> ok.another quick question, (sorry, just installed ubuntu on an old machine to try and get a CSS server going). is the "./" psrt of a "./hldupdatetool.bin" command?
[06:18] <slavik> jeeaar: ./ == current directory
[06:18] <farous> nicholaspaul: you need to remove some of the existing partitons?
[06:19] <jeeaar> slavik: thanks :D
[06:19] <nicholaspaul> farous: i just want to obliterate it and make it a linux HD
[06:19] <nrdb> slavik: out is "DOUBLE-CLICK: 400 --> -1 THRESHOLD: 8 --> -1 "
[06:19] <farous> nicholaspaul: i do not know how to join the partions of the hd in a single partition
[06:20] <slavik> nrdb: that is it?
[06:20] <farous> nicholaspaul: so let me look out how you can do that
[06:20] <stylus-help> slavik, xchat appeared on the internet list.
[06:20] <stylus-help> but it doesn't open 0.o
[06:20] <slavik> stylus-help: :D
[06:20] <nrdb> slavik: yes
[06:20] <stylus-help> Details: Failed to execute child process "xchat" (No such file or directory)
[06:20] <aujordanh> nicholaspaul, are you wiping out the entire drive
[06:20] <nicholaspaul> farous: sure :) thx
[06:20] <slavik> nrdb: I would cosult the thunderbird people ...
[06:20] <nicholaspaul> aujordanh: yes
[06:20] <slavik> stylus-help: try to run xchat in terminal
[06:20] <slavik> pastebin any errors/results
[06:20] <nrdb> slavik: there is no option to force it to start, no indication how it is deciding that another is going.
[06:20] <aujordanh> nicholaspaul,  delete all of the partitions repartition it how you like it, then write your changes
[06:20] <stylus-help> what's the command to run xchat in the terminal slavik?
[06:20] <stylus-help> just : xchat ?
[06:21] <slavik> probably :)
[06:21] <stylus-help> nope, didn't work.
[06:21] <farous> nicholaspaul: check gparted it is a gui for partioning and formating
[06:21] <slavik> you can do which xchat or xch (then press tab) if it tab completes it's there
[06:21] <yuheng108> is anyone using Intel GMA 900?
[06:21] <nicholaspaul> farous:  it doestn show up in gparted
[06:21] <aujordanh> nicholaspaul, you delete a partition, it turns it into free space, you delete two and they are combined as free space
[06:21] <slavik> nrdb: consult the tbird people ... irc.mozilla.org
[06:21] <farous> nicholaspaul: there is qtparted also but as you use gnome check gparted
[06:21] <kr3wza> O.o
[06:21] <farous> nicholaspaul: is it mounted
[06:21] <nicholaspaul> aujordanh: gotcha
[06:21] <nicholaspaul> farous: no.
[06:22] <kr3wza> Ubuntu doesn't like my sound card.
[06:22] <shawnr_> does anyone know where i can get a look at the package list for the ubuntu 64-bit repositories?
[06:22] <|thunder> when does edgy ship ?
[06:22] <aujordanh> shawnr_,  packages.ubuntu.org??
[06:22] <rcmiv_> 10
[06:22] <|thunder> shawn, is google showing nothing ?
[06:22] <farous> nicholaspaul: ok i see aujordanh helped you there
[06:22] <shawnr_> not really
[06:22] <shawnr_> just a bunch of forum posts
[06:22] <shawnr_> aujordanh, thanks
[06:23] <stylus-help> slavik, it can't find it.. Would this be effected from where it was when I was isntalling it?
[06:23] <nicholaspaul> farous: kinda, but it doesnt show up in gparted, or fdisk, just in Disk Mnager
[06:23] <stylus-help> I just had it in my moe directory.
[06:23] <stylus-help> home*
[06:23] <shawnr_> aujordanh, no thats not a valid site
[06:23] <stylus-help> home directory.
[06:23] <farous> nicholaspaul: try qtparted then
[06:23] <fullmetalashaman> hi
[06:23] <farous> i used it and was really easy to use
[06:23] <fullmetalashaman> i am getting an error whenever i try to update
[06:23] <aujordanh> shawnr_, http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[06:23] <fullmetalashaman> It is not possible to upgrade all packages.
[06:23] <aujordanh> better?
[06:24] <farous> nicholaspaul: ps you can not format a mounted partition so that is good
[06:24] <fullmetalashaman> Please use Synaptic "Smart Upgrade" or "apt-get dist-upgrade" to fix the situation.
[06:24] <nicholaspaul> farous: ok . but i shouldnt have to take it out and format it with another machine should i?
[06:24] <fullmetalashaman> and i was wondering where you had to type that command
[06:24] <fullmetalashaman> ?
[06:24] <stylus-help> slavik, is there a specific place I should have the files which I install from before doing the ./configure and everything?
[06:24] <aujordanh> fullmetalashaman, are you using breezy?
[06:24] <farous> nicholaspaul: you do not need ot od that no
[06:24] <shawnr_> aujordanh, but those are 32bit repositories right? im looking for 64bit
[06:24] <slavik> stylus-help: no
[06:24] <nicholaspaul> farous: phew!
[06:24] <fullmetalashaman> 5.04
[06:24] <aujordanh> it doesn't display them all
[06:24] <farous> nicholaspaul: for me i just use the ubuntu installation cd to do that :)
[06:24] <stylus-help> slavik, do you know what happened then? :(
[06:24] <kr3wza> So.. Ubuntu doesn't like Realtek AC '97?
[06:25] <aujordanh> fullmetalashaman, and you want dapper updates right?
[06:25] <slavik> stylus-help: go to the place where xchat is and right click and add to the desktop
[06:25] <nicholaspaul> farous:  ahh. So could i boot of a install disk and do it?
[06:25] <aujordanh> shawnr_, hang on
[06:25] <fullmetalashaman> yeah
[06:25] <|thunder> i have ac'97
[06:25] <|thunder> works great
[06:25] <fullmetalashaman> the full upgrades
[06:25] <stylus-help> slavik: where would that be?
[06:25] <kr3wza> O.o
[06:25] <kr3wza> thunder: do share!
[06:25] <stylus-help> slavik: when I went to that folder.
[06:25] <stylus-help> It stlil said no child directory.
[06:25] <stylus-help> (when clicking on the icon from the folder).
[06:26] <aujordanh> shawnr_, bottom of page search with AMD64 option maybe?
[06:26] <|thunder> shawn, only very few packages are not avail for 64
[06:26] <farous> nicholaspaul: i use the alternate cd go throught press escape go to the partition step do the partitioning nd formating and then cancel the installation
[06:26] <shawnr_> aujordanh, ahhhh thanks
[06:26] <|thunder> automattixbleeder being one of them. but soon
[06:26] <aujordanh> fullmetalashaman, !upgrade
[06:26] <|thunder> flash being one of them
[06:26] <aujordanh> !upgrade
[06:26] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[06:27] <|thunder> but i prefer a faster OS over flash
[06:27] <farous> nicholaspaul: but just hang on perhaps others have better solution then this one
[06:27] <nicholaspaul> ok hanging.
[06:27] <stylus-help> slavik, should I just give up?
[06:27] <aujordanh> nicholaspaul, whats the problem??
[06:27] <slavik> no
[06:28] <slavik> stylus-help: did you add the launcher to the desktop?
[06:28] <shawnr_> ok everyone, im making the switch to amd64
[06:29] <stylus-help> yes, it didn't work slavik.
[06:29] <shawnr_> ubuntu-64bit that is
[06:29] <shawnr_> wish me luck lol
[06:29] <aujordanh> shawnr_, luck
[06:29] <DShepher1> hey
[06:29] <shawnr_> juswt needed to make sure audacity had a 64bit version... thats all i need ;)
[06:29] <kr3wza> Need. Music.
[06:29] <rcmiv> exit
[06:29] <shawnr_> aujordanh, thank you
[06:29] <rcmiv> ?quit
[06:29] <rcmiv> ?quit
[06:29] <|thunder> i'll check
[06:29] <slavik> stylus-help: it didn't add anything to the desktop?
[06:30] <|thunder> pretty sure it is
[06:30] <shawnr_> kr3wza, whats wrong with music in ubuntu64?
[06:30] <|thunder> yep, audacity is available in 64 repo
[06:30] <shawnr_> ;)
[06:30] <nicholaspaul> aujordanh:  i have a drive i took from another machine. i put it in a linux machine and i'm trying to format it but it doesnt show up in fdisk just in Disk Manager (as /dev/hdb)
[06:30] <crimsun> kr3wza: what sound card?
[06:31] <|thunder> yep, audacity is running
[06:31] <cowmilk> In Xubuntu, are  there any situations when doubleclicking on a deb in the hard drive is not recommended?  are there any situations when it's better to install a deb via terminal?
[06:31] <aujordanh> nicholaspaul, is the drive mounted?
[06:31] <nicholaspaul> aujordanh: no.
[06:31] <kr3wza> crimsun:: Realtek AC '97 Onboard.
[06:31] <jbrimble> Is it possible to run Windows drivers in Linux?
[06:32] <|thunder> wireless drivers
[06:32] <crimsun> kr3wza: sorry, that's not terribly descriptive. Pastebin the output from ``tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat && amixer''
[06:32] <jbrimble> printer drivers, actually.
[06:32] <shawnr_> hey what about compiz/xgl... anyone try it on 64bit yet?
[06:32] <crashtest> well.  pci=biosirq kills the ethernet altogether.
[06:32] <|thunder> yep
[06:32] <|thunder> only found one tutorial that works so far
[06:32] <BHSPitMonkey> jbrimble, do you have a legitimate need to? a lot of printers are already supported.
[06:32] <shawnr_> where?
[06:32] <jbrimble> Mine isn't
[06:32] <nicholaspaul> aujordanh:  can i format a drive without mounting it, or mount a unformatted drive?
[06:32] <shawnr_> you got a link?
[06:33] <|thunder> ya
[06:33] <shawnr_> thanks
[06:33] <DShepherd> shawnr_: you can get some good support in #ubuntu-xgl
[06:33] <aujordanh> nicholaspaul, no, yes
[06:33] <jbrimble> I have a Fuji-Xerox DocuPrint203A laser printer.. I've tried everything but I can't find a driver or get generic drivers to work with it.
[06:33] <shawnr_> i don't need it now shep, i know of the channel, thanks
[06:33] <nicholaspaul> aujordanh:  how do i mount it?
[06:33] <DShepherd> shawnr_: kool ;-)
[06:33] <nicholaspaul> i know its /dev/hdb
[06:33] <aujordanh> nicholaspaul, it has to be mounted to manipulate it (I think, we are about at the extent of my knowledge)
[06:33] <aujordanh> !mount
[06:33] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[06:34] <|thunder> shawn _ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133427
[06:34] <shawnr_> |thunder, this is the one i had http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=222034
[06:34] <MistaED> jbrimble: is this for a stand-alone linux client or a server?
[06:34] <aujordanh> nicholaspaul, ^^
[06:34] <nicholaspaul> thx aujordanh  i'll do some reading.
[06:34] <jbrimble> stand-alone linux client.
[06:34] <shawnr_> |thunder, thanks! just have to make sure i back up my bookmarks now before the new install ;)
[06:34] <kr3wza> crimsun: which pastebin?
[06:35] <kr3wza> oh
[06:35] <kr3wza> the one in the topic
[06:35] <DShepherd> whoa.. what a chnage
[06:35] <harris> can anyone tell me how to make my terminal transparent? When I go to 'terminal/change profiel' all i see is the default setting
[06:35] <DShepherd> change*
[06:35] <|thunder> they are all linked from here : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148351
[06:35] <aujordanh> nicholaspaul, i may be wrong though
[06:35] <kr3wza> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19751
[06:35] <m4dm4n> could anyone help me with getting mp3 support for rhythmbox?
[06:36] <redcard> Is there a good gnome terminal emulator?
[06:36] <m4dm4n> I found some instructions but I can't get them to work
[06:36] <slavik> stylus-help: you there?
[06:36] <shawnr_> |thunder, thanks man
[06:36] <|thunder> i just goto google and search "compiz ubuntu one thread to rule them all'
[06:36] <|thunder> np
[06:36] <|thunder> BUT
[06:36] <shawnr_> but... ?
[06:36] <nicholaspaul> aujordanh: uhoh! praps i'll try qtparted
[06:37] <|thunder> automatix is getting ready to realease a 64 bit version of bleeder,
[06:37] <harris> is there a way to edit your profile to include a transperent setting for your terminal?
[06:37] <DShepherd> m4dm4n: what instructions are you following?
[06:37] <shawnr_> bleeder?
[06:37] <m4dm4n> an answer to a question on ubuntuforums.org
[06:37] <|thunder> which is a gui installer for video drivers and compiz
[06:37] <shawnr_> ahh
[06:37] <|thunder> the 32 bit version is lready availabe
[06:37] <shawnr_> thanks ok
[06:37] <crimsun> kr3wza: pastebin ``cat /etc/asound.conf ~/.asoundrc*'', too.
[06:37] <m4dm4n> I see gstreamer comes packaged with ubuntu
[06:37] <|thunder> #automatix
[06:37] <shawnr_> |thunder, i enjoy a challenge
[06:37] <shawnr_> ;)
[06:37] <|thunder> me too
[06:38] <m4dm4n> I got the mad stuff
[06:38] <|thunder> however, bleeder will use new cvs
[06:38] <m4dm4n> but rhythmbox still doesn't seem to like it
[06:38] <|thunder> that link is older compiz
[06:38] <DShepherd> !tell m4dm4n about restrictedformats
[06:38] <DShepherd> !tell m4dm4n about mp3
[06:38] <|thunder> the tutorial uses prebuilt packages on a personal server
[06:38] <DShepherd> m4dm4n: you get anything from ubotu?
[06:38] <|thunder> but it works for me
[06:39] <nu> how do i view hidden files?
[06:39] <shawnr_> |thunder, but my girlfriend will be pissed if she wakes up tomorrow and can't browse the web lol. so i have to atleast i get mplayerplugin/swiftfox/java/flash set up tonight... although i hear thats what all the fuss is over with the 64bit ver
[06:39] <DShepherd> !mp3
[06:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:39] <DShepherd> m4dm4n: there you go..
[06:39] <|thunder> no flash
[06:40] <|thunder> corry
[06:40] <shawnr_> ?
[06:40] <DShepherd> m4dm4n: the first link should be good enough for you
[06:40] <|thunder> *sorry
[06:40] <shawnr_> no flash?
[06:40] <|thunder> adobe is working on it i read in a blog somewhere
[06:40] <|thunder> nope
[06:40] <kr3wza> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19752 Also, can you message me, it's hard to get help when there are about 9 people asking questions at once.
[06:40] <nu> How do view hidden files?
[06:40] <|thunder> ls -la
[06:40] <shawnr_> i thought if you install the 32bit ver of firefox you can install the 32bit ver of flash
[06:41] <|thunder> ive not heard of that,    but i know you can run 32 bit code.  ill have to investigate that
[06:41] <crimsun> kr3wza: I'm very busy atm.
[06:41] <m4dm4n> thanks for that
[06:41] <m4dm4n> got it
[06:41] <|thunder> i think you can force arch with apt-get
[06:41] <crimsun> kr3wza: I'll try to look at it in 10 mins.
[06:41] <kr3wza> crimsun: kk, no prob.
[06:41] <DShepherd> m4dm4n: good.
[06:41] <shawnr_> yea if thats the case she is gonna be pissed cause she is a youtube freak... with her big brother videos and all
[06:41] <shawnr_> i hate sites that insist on using flash for videos
[06:42] <HackerX9> ________Hey, Does anyone want to help me with bcm43xx-fwcutter.... I have done everything and i just need help getting it to come on
[06:43] <redcard> Anyone suggest any good gnome IRC?
[06:43] <DShepherd> redcard: gaim, xchat, xchat-gnome. i guess those can work
[06:43] <rixth> How can I make gEdit open .hhc files by default?
[06:44] <Meeppeep> does anyone know how to edit sources.list?
[06:44] <shawnr_> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:44] <|thunder> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:44] <Meeppeep> thx
[06:45] <nu> i cant access a hidden directory
[06:45] <Frankenstein> whats wrong with vi?
[06:45] <nu> using cd /.dirname/
[06:45] <shawnr_> lol
[06:45] <shawnr_> whats wrong with nano ;)
[06:45] <Geoffrey2> well, I guess some time in 2007, we MIGHT get a working copy of Flash 9 for Linux.....
[06:45] <kr3wza> AHAHAHA
[06:45] <kr3wza> VLC ftw.
[06:45] <shawnr_> Geoffrey2, LOL
[06:45] <kr3wza> VLC saves the day. Yet again.
[06:45] <kr3wza> crimsun: I solved my problem.
[06:46] <shawnr_> Geoffrey2, i know right!
[06:46] <nu> How do i enter a hidden dir lol
[06:46] <nu> says not found
[06:46] <|thunder> problem is flash 9 uses directx or some crap
[06:46] <BHSPitMonkey> rixth, are those just plaintext files?
[06:46] <shawnr_> Geoffrey2, first it was flash 8, then 8.5, now its oh wait, you have to wait for 9 now
[06:46] <rixth> BHSPitMonkey, yep
[06:46] <BHSPitMonkey> rixth, do your plaintext files not already open in gedit?
[06:46] <nu> rix, do you get access denied when trying to edit them?
[06:46] <|thunder> shawnr_   http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-191205.html
[06:47] <shawnr_> Geoffrey2, adobe has no respect for the linux community
[06:47] <BHSPitMonkey> I was kind of hopeful that adobe might change things after taking over macromedia...
[06:47] <rixth> BHSPitMonkey, I am viewing these files via nautilus over FTP
[06:47] <BHSPitMonkey> I was wrong :( false optimism
[06:47] <shawnr_> |thunder, hey thanks! that will come in handy ;)
[06:48] <BHSPitMonkey> rixth, the files, or their contents?
[06:48] <rixth> The files, but FTP does not tell nautilus "this is a plain text file"
[06:48] <rixth> So when I doubleclick, i always get asked what I want to use to open it
[06:50] <Geoffrey2> shawnr_, that's the difference between platform independent software, and software built specifically to work with the quirks of a specific operating system
[06:51] <shawnr_> Geoffrey2, yea. what ya gonna do...
[06:51] <guy22> does the 2.4 demudi multimedia kernel run on ubuntu?
[06:52] <BHSPitMonkey> or rather, does ubuntu run on the 2.4 demudi mult........
[06:52] <guy22> yes sorry lol
[06:52] <Geoffrey2> shawnr_, for the forseeable future, not see anything flash related on Linux
[06:53] <shawnr_> Geoffrey2, wait til Vista comes out. Then we will see tons more support for 64bit... its a shame we have to depened on micro$oft.... errr
[06:53] <shawnr_> us poor poor linux users lol
[06:53] <shawnr_> ;)
[06:54] <lophyte> shawnr_: considering so many of Vista's new features are based on things Linux already has, and has had for a long time
[06:54] <Geoffrey2> shawnr_, well, I don't have a processor that can handle 64 bit, as far as I know, so that's not an issue...for me, anyway
[06:54] <Redcard> Hmm.  Gaim isn't as bad as I thought it could be
[06:54] <shawnr_> lophyte, tell me about it. pisses me off
[06:54] <BHSPitMonkey> lophyte, that's the story of Windows.
[06:55] <lophyte> BHSPitMonkey: indeed.
[06:55] <BHSPitMonkey> look back as early as win95
[06:55] <BHSPitMonkey> or earlier!
[06:55] <Redcard> Might have to switch to it
[06:55] <lophyte> I was reading a review of Vista (I haven't tried it yet).. and so many things reminded me of Linux
[06:55] <BHSPitMonkey> gaim rocks (in the sock region)
[06:55] <lophyte> "full iconic previews in place of file icons"
[06:55] <lophyte> nautilus and konqueror have had that for ages
[06:55] <Redcard> BHSPitMonkey: Well, I don't know if that means it's good or  bad.
[06:55] <shawnr_> lophyte, lol have you ever read that article about the kids going from store to store and slipping knoppix cd's in the display computers and rebooting lol!!!
[06:56] <lophyte> plus the eye candy is almost a direct rip off of compiz
[06:56] <Redcard> For me, it certainly means it could be worse ;)
[06:56] <lophyte> shawnr_: hahah, no I haven't
[06:56] <BHSPitMonkey> gaim and firefox, that's how I get all my friends slowly hooked on OSS... *evil laugh*
[06:56] <shawnr_> omg i wish i saved that link
[06:56] <Redcard> BHSPitMonkey: Well, I meant GAIM as an IRC client
[06:56] <Geoffrey2> I remember about the time either 95 or 98 came out, an article pointing out that Windows had spawned an industry based on fixing problems DOS users never had :)
[06:56] <BHSPitMonkey> oh
[06:57] <Redcard> Problem is, I'm looking for something gnome.. and the list is very, very small
[06:57] <BHSPitMonkey> goodness no, GAIM (or any other prog that's mainly an IM) is gross to use as an IRC, in my opinion
[06:57] <BHSPitMonkey> I have to have a real IRC client.
[06:57] <lophyte> xchat :D
[06:57] <BHSPitMonkey> xchat.
[06:57] <Redcard> xchat is just too plain.
[06:57] <shawnr_> lophyte, i found it! want the link
[06:57] <|thunder> gets the job done
[06:57] <lophyte> shawnr_: lol, sure
[06:57] <shawnr_> lophyte, you gotta look at the pictures
[06:57] <Amaranth> xchat-gnome > *
[06:57] <Amaranth> :D
[06:57] <lophyte> actually I didn't really like xchat-gnome
[06:58] <lophyte> I stick with the default interface
[06:58] <Redcard> xchat-gnome is even more plain than Xchat :P
[06:58] <phargle> irssi
[06:58] <|thunder> try w3m http://www.reuters.com/ at a prompt redcard
[06:58] <BHSPitMonkey> yes, it is.
[06:58] <shawnr_> PCjacking.. The Linux Way!! This is Hillarious! http://www.manucornet.net/pcjacking/
[06:58] <BHSPitMonkey> xchat-gnome is an unwanted child born out of wedlock.
[06:58] <shawnr_> PCjacking.. The Linux Way!! This is Hillarious! http://www.manucornet.net/pcjacking/
[06:58] <BHSPitMonkey> IRCspamming... the shawnr_ way! This is annoying!!
[06:59] <shawnr_> oh please
[06:59] <shriphani> people can you tell me wherto find the mirrors
[06:59] <shawnr_> lighten the nuts
[06:59] <Tauhshi> Hiya guys, I'm in BIG trouble
[06:59] <nu> why is that
[06:59] <Tauhshi> I tried to resize my windows partition, it hold my boot record and such
[06:59] <Tauhshi> With gparter
[07:00] <Tauhshi> Or whatever
[07:00] <nu> and...
[07:00] <Redcard> Oh well.  It's time for bed for me anyway :)
[07:00] <nu> you cant boot into windows now?
[07:00] <phargle> this is the good part
[07:00] <shriphani> how do i get the list of mirrors please ?
[07:00] <Tauhshi> correct
[07:00] <Tauhshi> Well, I'm not sure
[07:00] <nu> Do you have the windows installation CD?
[07:00] <Tauhshi> But, If the windows partition wont boot, neither will Ubuntu
[07:00] <Madpilot> shriphani, download mirrors or repository mirrors?
[07:00] <shriphani> the repos aint working i suppose
[07:01] <Tauhshi> So, I think I am going to do a clean install of TinyXP
[07:01] <nu> Tauhshi: do you have the windows installation cd?
[07:01] <nu> you can fixmbr
[07:02] <Tauhshi> But, I believe that the partition is corrupted
[07:02] <Madpilot> shriphani, the main repos seem to be working fine - which set are you using?
[07:02] <shriphani> erm anyone ?
[07:02] <shriphani> the ones offered by ubuntu
[07:02] <Tauhshi> because gparted didnt finish resizing
[07:02] <shriphani> and i cant install xchat
[07:02] <phargle> hit undo
[07:02] <Tauhshi> But, good will come
[07:02] <BHSPitMonkey> that's not good, Tauhshi
[07:02] <BHSPitMonkey> Tauhshi, testdisk might be of assistance.
[07:02] <nu> Tauhshi: sorry =( i think you just lost everything on that partition
[07:03] <phargle> set it back to the right size and fdisk /mbr
[07:03] <kr3wza> how do I search for a folder?
[07:03] <Madpilot> shriphani, do you have Universe enabled? XChat has been moved to Universe in Dapper
[07:03] <Tauhshi> The only reason I care about it is that Without Windows, my new mp3 player is useless
[07:04] <Ronz> *holds up cell phone* its linux compatable!!
[07:04] <Tauhshi> Love claps!
[07:04] <BHSPitMonkey> *holds up iPod* it has linux installed on it!
[07:04] <nu> how do i rename a file through terminal?
[07:04] <Ronz> rn
[07:04] <bartist> hello
[07:04] <BHSPitMonkey> nu, "mv old new"
[07:04] <nu> ty
[07:04] <farous> nu mv
[07:04] <BHSPitMonkey> where old is the old file name, new is the new one :P
[07:04] <Tauhshi> *holds up Windows CD* It wishes it was Linux!
[07:04] <farous> oh BHSPitMonkey beet me to it
[07:04] <nu> Thanks guys =)
[07:04] <Ronz> haha
[07:05] <bartist> i hope there will be an itunes for linux one day
[07:05] <HLM> Windows CD makes a good coaster
[07:05] <BHSPitMonkey> yeah, the renaming convention for linux was perhaps one of my biggest "of course!"'s when I first had to ask :)
[07:05] <DShepherd> bartist: the player?
[07:06] <bartist> yes
[07:06] <BHSPitMonkey> it's so obvious, but it's not... lol
[07:06] <DShepherd> bartist: banshee is getting there..
[07:06] <BHSPitMonkey> banshee, songbird...
[07:06] <BHSPitMonkey> until then, amaroK :P
[07:06] <Ronz> amarok > all
[07:06] <bartist> DS: i had some trouble with banshee
[07:06] <Tauhshi> Is it possible to run a live CD without booting from it, such as a Virtual PC or such?
[07:06] <BHSPitMonkey> Tauhshi, what kind of player is it
[07:06] <DShepherd> yeah amarok is good
[07:07] <bartist> banshee messed with my sound when i removed it
[07:07] <BHSPitMonkey> Tauhshi, yep. vmware
[07:07] <Tauhshi> The new Toshiba gigabeat S
[07:07] <BHSPitMonkey> or bochs, or qemu or some other stuff
[07:07] <bartist> but i fixed it
[07:07] <BHSPitMonkey> vmware might be the easiest to figure out, though, and it's the best one out there
[07:07] <BHSPitMonkey> and it's free
[07:07] <Tauhshi> And, can I install to a partition from VMWare?
[07:07] <mheath> The main reason I use itunes over any other media player on Windows is the cheap and safe music store. I think thats the main reason people want an ITunes for Linux.
[07:08] <Tauhshi> VMWare, free?
[07:08] <BHSPitMonkey> Tauhshi, no
[07:08] <fiction> test
[07:08] <BHSPitMonkey> vmware player is free.
[07:08] <phargle> so is vmware server
[07:08] <kr3wza> ...
[07:08] <phargle> and actually you can install to a partition
[07:08] <BHSPitMonkey> the beta is.
[07:08] <bartist> i never buy sound, i can download mp3 for free
[07:08] <Ronz> mheath, itunes is good for windows
[07:08] <bartist> but the itunes player really rocks
[07:08] <kr3wza> Someone: how do I search for a folder?
[07:08] <phargle> but, seeing your track record and partitions.. i wouldn't risk it
[07:08] <Ronz> kr3wza, locate <folder>
[07:08] <DShepherd> gnome-search-tool.. and type the folder name
[07:08] <BHSPitMonkey> Tauhshi, you can't boot the livecd ISO in vmware and then install it to the computer itself
[07:09] <|thunder> find ./ |grep -i searchdata
[07:09] <DShepherd> kr3wza: ^^^
[07:09] <Tauhshi> Ok, does the AMD64 *buntu distros suppot the AMD Turion 64 x2 (Dual Core)?
[07:09] <Tauhshi> Damn
[07:09] <bartist> guy, during last upgrade, i had to remove the firefox totem plugin package
[07:09] <|thunder> prolly
[07:09] <bluefoxicy> yes
[07:09] <bluefoxicy> come on
[07:09] <bartist> what about you?
[07:09] <bluefoxicy> it's the same damn CPU architecture.
[07:09] <Tauhshi> I've been having major trouble with CD's lately
[07:10] <bluefoxicy> it's just two CPUs instead of one
[07:10] <Tauhshi> Ok, thanks blue
[07:10] <mheath> bluefoxicy, no, its not. Dual core is not dual processors.
[07:10] <Tauhshi> ?
[07:10] <|thunder> im pretty sure it supports dual processors
[07:11] <bluefoxicy> mheath:  it's a single processor dye with two execution units etched into it and two sets of cache.
[07:11] <Tauhshi> Ok
[07:11] <Tauhshi> The only reason I can run Ubuntu is because my ShipIT CD's came in today
[07:11] <Tauhshi> Unfortuantly, for the x86 arch
[07:11] <bluefoxicy> mheath: there's logic hardware to prevent conflicts between the busses; but the busses are all merged INSIDE the CPU instead of OUTSIDE the CPU.  In effect, it's 2 CPUs, with some of the extra SMP chipsets closer to the processors
[07:12] <lula> test
[07:12] <bluefoxicy> (remember with 2 CPUs, both can't access the same memory at the same time; they cache it on different clocks.  If you work with unlocked memory, the cache in 2 CPUs may be different, and things get screwed)
[07:12] <mheath> bluefoxicy, yes, but it works completely different than dual CPUs, functionally. Different drivers to manager than SMP.
[07:13] <mheath> *to manager
[07:13] <mheath> argh. I can't type tonight. Maybe my arms being so sore I can barely move them has something to do with that....
[07:13] <phargle> *to manage
[07:14] <bluefoxicy> mheath:  hardware-wise it's architecturally the same.
[07:14] <mheath> bluefoxicy, yes, its basically the same. But its structure requires different drivers to work with them than traditional SMP setups.
[07:15] <agentMizzlebizzl> Hi.
[07:15] <mheath> My point is, saying that because an operating system supports a given architecture it therefore inherentely supports a dual cored version of that architecture is silly.
[07:15] <bluefoxicy> mheath:  howso?  You still issue SMP 'lock' commands to lock memory, et al
[07:15] <phargle> but you have to understand the symetry and proximification ingressed from the overlative nature of the superhetrydynes.  Working in conjunction with the fleux capacitors, the succomrods also help keep power usage down
[07:15] <agentMizzlebizzl> the answer is yes
[07:15] <crimsun> phargle: the lack of a trailing fullstop nullifies your statement. ;-)
[07:16] <phargle>  shat
[07:16] <bluefoxicy> mheath:  I'm not quite sure if the two cores function isolated (i.e. in SMP you can bring up CPU0 but not bring up CPU1; not sure if you can turn a CPU core off in dual core models)
[07:16] <owen_> i need help opening winrar archieves, is it possible?
[07:16] <gidim> Okay, so Ubuntu has been so cruel to me tonight.
[07:16] <bartist> i have installed many codecs, but strangely i see movies in black and white with strange redish and greenish colors
[07:17] <bluefoxicy> and I guess there's got to be a way to determine which CPU cores are on the same dye for hot-plug CPU
[07:17] <farous> owen_: unrar package
[07:17] <|thunder> owen, install automatix
[07:17] <|thunder> or easyubuntu
[07:17] <Tauhshi> Ok, my CD Drive is scaring me
[07:17] <owen_> alright thank you both
[07:17] <bluefoxicy> mheath:  but all that is kernel-level and it's not gonna bug Ubuntu, 64-bit Ubuntu will work with it even if the kernel sees one CPU
[07:17] <bartist> do you have any idea of what i could do to fix that?
[07:18] <|thunder> i get green crap too. have to use mplayer
[07:18] <nu> when i move a file to a dir that has a file with the same name, does it automatically overwrite?
[07:18] <wyevern> nope
[07:18] <highphilosopher> EHLO
[07:18] <bluefoxicy> sleep time
[07:18] <mheath> bluefoxicy, I'm assuming that if someone wanted to install Ubuntu on their cutting edge system, they'd probably want it to work well, though :0
[07:18] <mheath> :)*
[07:18] <nu> no? ok
[07:18] <Tauhshi> Ok, I'm using K3b to erase a CD-RW
[07:18] <Tauhshi> And it's making a loud revving noise
[07:18] <mheath> highphilosopher, This is IRC, not SMTP. :)
[07:19] <highphilosopher> oops :)
[07:19] <|thunder> must be doing it really fast
[07:19] <Tauhshi> and frequently, slows down, then speeds up
[07:19] <LiteHedded> !sudo
[07:19] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:19] <owen_> omfg.. i just extracted this iso image from the rar files in less than 1 min....
[07:19] <highphilosopher> mheath: finally someone who gets that?
[07:19] <|thunder> !help
[07:19] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[07:19] <owen_> i could never do it fast on windows
[07:19] <phargle> Tauhshi: as long as it doesnt speed up then slow down your fine
[07:19] <Tauhshi> That's what it is doing . . .
[07:19] <mheath> highphilosopher, I've sat at too many telnet prompts debugging too many e-mail servers to not get that :P But keep in mind, you ARE in #ubuntu, it is a desktop distro :)
[07:20] <wyevern> as long as it still can burn it's OK :-P
[07:20] <highphilosopher> mheath: yeah, I like to use it as an all purpose greeting, cause, it's better than HELO :)
[07:20] <Tauhshi> Well, I'd be mad it it doesnt give me my CD back
[07:20] <mheath> haha, indeed.
[07:21] <Tauhshi> And K3b doesn't have a progress bar
[07:21] <mheath> Tauhshi, its disappeared into the gaping teath of your CD drive, nevr to return!
[07:21] <mheath> ;-)
[07:21] <Tauhshi> Damn CD Drive . . .
[07:21] <Tauhshi> Should I take it out?
[07:22] <aeread> looking for a light cd burner to burn a bootable iso .... or maybe instructions to do it with command line in ubuntu
[07:22] <Tauhshi> I would reccomend K3b, but in light of recent events . . .
[07:22] <Tauhshi> *glares at CD burner*
[07:22] <mheath> aeread, you can use the 'cdrecord' command in ubuntu.
[07:22] <aeread> "light"
[07:22] <jon_> hello?
[07:22] <aeread> mheath: Roger that
[07:22] <phargle> perform a cdr abortion
[07:23] <mheath> aeread, to burn an ISO, just type "cdrecord dev=/dev/hd* /path/to/the.iso"
[07:23] <jon_> can someone help me? im totally new to ubuntu
[07:23] <jon_> i cant get my cd player to eject
[07:23] <mheath> aeread, do you know enough about how hard drives are named in Linux to know what /dev/hd* device your CD burner is?
[07:23] <aeread> yep
[07:23] <aeread> cheers
[07:23] <|thunder> try eject from a prompt
[07:24] <mheath> jon_, there is an icon on your desktop representing the CD-ROM. What happens when you right click on it and click "eject"?
[07:24] <phargle> umount it
[07:24] <DShepherd> jon_: right.. do what mheath said
[07:24] <|thunder> jam a paper clip in it
[07:24] <|thunder> ;)
[07:24] <jon_> ....
[07:24] <jon_> hm
[07:25] <jon_> that worked perfect
[07:25] <jon_> but why didnt the button work on the actual cd drive?
[07:25] <mheath> jon_, there you go :) anything else we can help with?
[07:25] <jon_> yes, tons
[07:25] <jon_> i cant get realplayer to install
[07:25] <|thunder> because it was part of the file system
[07:25] <jon_> and i cant play mp3s
[07:25] <DShepherd> !mp3
[07:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:25] <|thunder> so it was locked
[07:25] <jon_> thats odd
[07:25] <DShepherd> jon_: the first link should help you with mp3
[07:26] <phargle> hence, unmounting it
[07:26] <phargle> the button is overrated anyways
[07:26] <mheath> jon_: GNU Linux reads from your CD-ROM drive in a different manner than Windows. The eject button is basically disabled while you're using the CD-ROM drive, to prevent you from ejecting it at a bad time and causing problems.
[07:26] <jon_> interesting
[07:26] <jon_> you guys are pretty helpful
[07:26] <Nameeater> if nothing is accessing the CD-Rom (ie a terminal isnt in the cdrom directory) but it still wont listen to the cd-drive button I find 'eject' usually works
[07:27] <Nameeater> unless I've left something pointing to the drive
[07:27] <jon_> pointing to the drive?
[07:27] <mheath> jon_: first, are you hearing any sound at all? When you log in, do you hear a little tune, or can you play any kinds of music other than .mp3s?
[07:27] <Nameeater> eject at the command line that is ;/
[07:27] <jon_> yes
[07:27] <nu> guys. something froze. whats the linux version of ctrl alt delete
[07:27] <Nameeater> like the filemanager
[07:27] <jon_> i hear log on sound
[07:27] <jon_> but
[07:27] <Nameeater> or a terminal window :)
[07:27] <jon_> i have no music yet
[07:27] <jon_> how do you get to the command line?
[07:27] <bartist> guys for a pIV, what kernel do you recomend?
[07:28] <bartist> 686 smp?
[07:28] <nu> whats linux version of control alt delete?
[07:28] <nu> textpad froze
[07:28] <|thunder> apps/acessories/terminal
[07:28] <mheath> jon_: What music player program are you using? And, does it appear to be playing, and you're just not hearing anything, or is it giving you an error?
[07:28] <Nameeater> Applications-> Access -> Term
[07:28] <|thunder> killall gedit
[07:28] <nu> |thunder: thank you
[07:28] <Iskander> I got a question about wine whose willing to answer?
[07:28] <nu> |thunder: didnt work
[07:28] <phargle> i prefer beer
[07:29] <DShepherd> jon_: gksudo gnome-app-install. check 'Show commercial applications' .. go to the search bar (top right had) and type 'realplayer'. the second one in the list should get you real player 10.
[07:29] <DShepherd> s/had/hand
[07:29] <mheath> Iskander, don't ask to ask! Just ask your question. There are 768 people in this room, and some come and go - you'll get a better and quicker response if you just ask your question.
[07:29] <jon_> gksudo?
[07:29] <Iskander> Where can I find the Wine Config File?
[07:30] <Ronz> Iskander, are you looking to run it?
[07:30] <DShepherd> jon: yeah,, or just go to Applications... add/remove software..
[07:30] <jon_> rhythmbox
[07:30] <mheath> Iskander, wine uses a per-user configuration file. It's in the .wine subdirectory of you home directory.
[07:30] <jon_> wont play my mp3s from a windows backup disk
[07:30] <gidim> I've been fighting with Ubuntu-tan for about five hours now. She doesn't wanna install. ;_;
[07:31] <Iskander> Ronz: I have sound lag in a game called sof2 and I followed a guide and it says if you have this problem to add some lines
[07:31] <DShepherd> jon_: yeah because mp3 is a restricted format so ubuntu doesnt support it out of the box
[07:31] <Tauhshi> Wonderful, now I don
[07:31] <Tauhshi> 't even know it it is erasing . . .
[07:31] <DShepherd> jon_: !tell _jon about mp3
[07:31] <jon_> why is it restricted?
[07:31] <DShepherd> jon_: !tell jon_ about mp3
[07:32] <mheath> !tell jon_ about mp3
[07:32] <jon_> what?
[07:32] <Iskander> heath, its not in my home folder there is no .wine file there
[07:32] <Ronz> !tell jon_ about mp3
[07:32] <Ronz> Iskander, try in ~/.wine
[07:32] <mheath> Iskander, .wine is a directory, not a file.
[07:32] <mheath> Iskander, Do you have wine installed, and have you ran the configuration app as your current user?
[07:33] <gidim> Is there something wrong with the AMD64 ISO on the site? I've burned two CDs, the first one lets me load as a LiveCD but won't install because of package mismatch in /main/pool subdirs, the second one won't even load or check for errors.
[07:33] <mheath> Iskander, You won't have the basic files until you run the wine configuraration utility.
[07:33] <jon_> i dont see why mp3 is restricted
[07:34] <DShepherd> jon_: is not a free format
[07:34] <mheath> smacky_wolf, FYI, broadcasting away messages is generally discouraged in large channels.
[07:34] <DShepherd> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats <-- jon_ read
[07:34] <jon_> thanks
[07:34] <|thunder> i installed from the distro from the main site about a month ago.
[07:34] <|thunder> amd64 that iss
[07:34] <keeb> i have a quick question about ubuntu x64
[07:34] <Iskander> heath, how do I run that?
[07:34] <jon_> why dont links work for me, dshepherd?
[07:34] <keeb> do i need to get x64 version with my processor?
[07:34] <phargle> depends on your processor
[07:35] <keeb> i have..
[07:35] <keeb> (CPU 1) AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3800+ (512KB L2 Cache, CPU 1) @ 2411MHz (200MHz FSB), 7% load
[07:35] <DShepherd> jon_: huh? i really dont know.. why dont they work for you? and wat do you mean they dont work for you?
[07:35] <dmsantam> whats a good reader that supports ical format?
[07:35] <jon_> i mean
[07:35] <phargle> you dont need to, but you can
[07:35] <jon_> that link you sent, i click on it and nothing happens
[07:35] <silentread> keeb, you could use either x86 ro x64
[07:35] <Flannel> jon_: try ctrl clicking, What client you using?
[07:35] <keeb> is there a benefit to using x64?
[07:35] <jon_> client?
[07:35] <|thunder> you can , but dont have to.  its fater
[07:35] <DShepherd> jon_: amm not sure.. what irc client are you suing?
[07:35] <jon_> oh
[07:35] <Madpilot> jon_, which IRC app are you using?
[07:35] <DShepherd> jon_: yes the name of the program you are using now
[07:35] <jon_> i have no idea. it came with ubuntu 5.10
[07:36] <|thunder> but some packages are missing. and somtimes harder to install stuff
[07:36] <Flannel> jon_: xchat then?
[07:36] <jon_> ive never used irc
[07:36] <jon_> yes, xchat
[07:36] <keeb> thunder
[07:36] <silentread> keeb, x64 is faster, youll see a good performance boost, the negative is that x64 isnt as well developed
[07:36] <Flannel> jon_: try ctrl-click
[07:36] <keeb> it will be a development distro
[07:36] <keeb> so like
[07:36] <mheath> jon_: The technical reasons why mp3 is considered a restricted format are covered at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP3#Licensing_and_patent_issues
[07:36] <keeb> i'll be using eclipse and ajunta
[07:36] <silentread> keeb, use x64 if ur plan on a server, x86 for anything else
[07:36] <jon_> yes
[07:36] <keeb> anjuta*
[07:36] <jon_> ctrl click works
[07:36] <jon_> nice
[07:36] <keeb> and apache/php/mysql
[07:36] <gidim> So I should've downloaded the x86 distro and left it at that?
[07:37] <DShepherd> jon_: check out mheath's link.. that should give you a better view of mp3 and its licensing issues
[07:37] <mheath> jon_: GNU/Linux is a free operating system, and is legally free. Because of this, its difficult to pay for licenses for something they're distributing for free.
[07:37] <|thunder> i run the 64 bit ver no prob
[07:37] <|thunder> just takes some work to get flash working
[07:37] <jon_> yes, im reading it now
[07:37] <mheath> jon_: When you buy Microsoft Windows, it's possible for Microsoft to pay royalties to the copyright holders of certain technologies you're using, therefore passing on permission for you to use such technologies.
[07:37] <DShepherd> mheath: huh? its difficult?
[07:38] <keeb> |thunder: i have one more question really... how hard is it to ATI + dual monitor in x64 version vs x86 ?
[07:38] <mheath> jon_: Its not possible for Ubuntu to do the same thing; therefore, a lot of questionable software and materials has to be left up to the users discretion, to make it legally safe.
[07:38] <shadeofgrey> hey everygbody
[07:38] <jon_> so basically
[07:38] <jon_> i have to load more stuff
[07:38] <Iskander> heath, how do I run the wine config utility
[07:38] <DShepherd> mheath: what do you mean its not possible?
[07:38] <jon_> to listen to mp3s
[07:39] <Ronz> !mp3
[07:39] <DShepherd> jon_: exactly
[07:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:39] <DShepherd> jon_: its easier than you think :-D
[07:39] <keeb> yes jon_, but in the ubuntu forums (ubuntuforums.org) they have a guide on how to play mp3's
[07:39] <shadeofgrey> does anybody in here collect mp3s through IRC and if so what are the best automated ways of setting a ubuntu installation to download mp3s from a given source automatically so i dont have to cut and paste filenames all night long?
[07:39] <Flannel> keeb: eh, we have a howto, no need to go fishing around the forums, it's in !mp3
[07:39] <mheath> DShepherd, it is not usually possible or practical for Canonical to buy a license to copyrighted/trademarked materials/concepts thats applicable for every copy of something they're distributing for free.
[07:40] <rixth> How can I tell Gnome to open files that end in .hhc with gEdit? I am trying to open these files over FTP via Nautilus (they are renamed .php files).
[07:40] <DShepherd> mheath: possible is not the right term to use. It is possible.. but from Ubuntu standpoint its not apart of its missino
[07:40] <DShepherd> mission..
[07:41] <Shak-> are there any packages that allow converting from mp3 to wav?
[07:41] <rixth> Shak-, many
[07:41] <DShepherd> Shak should
[07:41] <jon_> i moved a folder from a cd to my harddrive? i think...now i cant get it off. it wont let me drag it to the trash
[07:41] <Shak-> rixth: can you name one thats decent
[07:41] <rixth> Shak-, mencoder, ffmpeg (can do it I think), audacity... take your pick
[07:41] <dubuntu> hello my friends
[07:41] <DShepherd> Shak-: sound-converter..
[07:41] <mheath> DShepherd, no, it is not possible. Such a license would essentially put the software in question into the public domain; and the fact that they are _not_ in the public domain is why it's an issue in the first place.
[07:41] <rixth> Hey hey
[07:41] <dmsantam> im getting the "packages can't be authenticated - do you want to continue" when using apt-get. what package has the right keys i need?
[07:41] <shadeofgrey> has anybody been successful at installing mirc on a ubuntu machine through wine?
[07:41] <rixth> !anybody
[07:41] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:41] <dubuntu> every now them X on ubuntu hangs !!
[07:42] <dmsantam> shadeofgrey, why would you want to do that?!
[07:42] <keeb> lol
[07:42] <shadeofgrey> dms:  because the automated mp3 downloaders for linux by in large blow rancid ardvark nuts
[07:42] <keeb> downloading ubuntu at 1.5mb/sec
[07:42] <shadeofgrey> dmsantam;  because the automated mp3 downloaders for linux by in large blow rancid ardvark nuts
[07:43] <DShepherd> mheath:... so we agree then.. cause they can change the license.. and then mp3's would be fine... so again..we agree :-D
[07:43] <jon_> thank you guys for the help.
[07:43] <shadeofgrey> dmsantam; if you know something i dont know - nows the time to say so
[07:43] <DShepherd> jon_: yup.. no prob
[07:43] <csk> hi all i just bought a new Lexmark  X1270 printer and i cant seem to print anything from ubuntu. i went to printer settings -> new printer and it says that my printer is detected. could some one please help me
[07:43] <UltimateDoomer-d> I need help with 3D Models
[07:44] <shadeofgrey> Ulti:  your noty going to get help with highend three D modelling stuff in linux dude
[07:44] <|thunder> automatix to install lame with no issues
[07:44] <UltimateDoomer-d> ohh damn
[07:44] <dubuntu> Why GNOME stops responding every 20 min or so
[07:44] <dubuntu> but if i do alt shift f1 and f7 it starts responding again
[07:44] <UltimateDoomer-d> i though this was Doomsday Engine help
[07:44] <shadeofgrey> ult; unless someone here knows something i dont - which i doubt
[07:44] <UltimateDoomer-d> Damn
[07:44] <shadeofgrey> UltimateDoomer-d; your best bet is to trash PC use altogether and go with a mac
[07:45] <UltimateDoomer-d> im so stupid
[07:45] <Flannel> err.  3d modeling?  Linux?  Why not?
[07:45] <DShepherd> shadeofgrey: huhh????
[07:45] <smee56> can some one help me by telling me how to set up a modem
[07:45] <dubuntu> when I do shfit + alt + f1 console does not comes !!
[07:45] <shadeofgrey> thats just my opinion though
[07:45] <Flannel> dubuntu: its ctrl-alt-f1
[07:45] <dubuntu> is this bug in ubuntu ?
[07:45] <digital> Need help setting up 3D support for the i810 video card
[07:45] <Unix_n_Coffee> dubuntu
[07:45] <digital> Laptop
[07:45] <Unix_n_Coffee> wrong keys
[07:45] <DShepherd> shadeofgrey: well your opinion is kinda shady
[07:45] <Unix_n_Coffee> ctrl alt then f something
[07:45] <Ronz> digital, i really dont think ti exists. =) i have the same chipset
[07:46] <owen_> does anyone know of a program to resize partitions that I can make a boot cd from that is free to use?
[07:46] <shadeofgrey> i mean if there really is 3d modelling programs available for linux capable of keeping up wityh mac equivelants id sure as hell like to know what they are
[07:46] <digital> Ronz: What do we do????
[07:46] <Unix_n_Coffee> f6 and 7
[07:46] <Unix_n_Coffee> :)
[07:46] <dubuntu> when I do ctrl + alt + f1 console does not comes !!
[07:46] <Ronz> digital, no 3d gaming for us!
[07:46] <owen_> for nfts partitioned hardrives
[07:46] <Unix_n_Coffee> ctrl alt and f6 and f7
[07:46] <Unix_n_Coffee> :)
[07:46] <dubuntu> sometimes i see console some times nothing
[07:46] <Flannel> shadeofgrey: blender seems to work perfectly fine.
[07:46] <silentread> owen, gparted makes a live disk
[07:46] <filosofo_de_bar> could anyone here help me? my ubuntu doesn't installs
[07:46] <shadeofgrey> Flannel; okay but is it really capable of keeping up wiuth 3d studio max?
[07:46] <gixbit_> Does anybody know how to force myself to die?
[07:47] <owen_> does gparted handle nfts paritions?
[07:47] <gixbit_> Because my nickname is in use
[07:47] <digital> Ronz: Did you search Google???
[07:47] <silentread> owen, ya it does everything
[07:47] <filosofo_de_bar> it loads the components, but i can't see the OS
[07:47] <owen_> alright thank you
[07:47] <Flannel> shadeofgrey: I can't imagine why it wouldnt be able to
[07:47] <gixbit_> and i can't get remember how to destroy or ghost myself
[07:47] <Flannel> gixbit_: /msg nickserv help ghost
[07:47] <filosofo_de_bar> it just turn off my display
[07:47] <wyevern> gixbit:try to bite ur own tongue :-P
[07:47] <shadeofgrey> flann; and its totally free?
[07:47] <Ronz> digital, nope
[07:47] <gixbit_> thanks Flannel
 when the os has booted press control+alt+f1 it should take you to a terminal
[07:47] <Flannel> shadeofgrey: yes
[07:48] <Shak-> rixth: how do you get mencoder to convert from one format to another? it just seems to play files
if it does it just means that there is a probelm with your xorg (the GUI display config)
[07:48] <filosofo_de_bar> cwraig, my os doesn't boot at all
[07:48] <rixth> Shak-, RTFM
[07:48] <Shak-> rixth: tried :)
[07:48] <Bob535> lo everyone
[07:49] <filosofo_de_bar> my live cd starts to load the components (drives, etc), but don't enter the OS
how far does it get
[07:49] <rixth> Shak-, someone suggested sound-converter, I have not user that myself though.
[07:49] <shadeofgrey> oikay than i stand corrected
[07:49] <Bob535> anyone wanna be a pal and help me get my computer to go to 1280x1024 or point me in the direction of a page that will instruct me
[07:49] <tanlaan> hey everyone, my computer is having, what i would say frequent but its happening like twice a week, CPU soft lockups does anyone know some of the more frequent reasons why this would happen?
[07:49] <Gixbit> Sweet
[07:49] <Gixbit> Flannel: thanks a bunch
 how new is your psu?
[07:49] <shadeofgrey> Flannel; since its obviouys you know more about opensource software than i do -- whats the best word processing package available? i need something rkobust that can handle 4-600 page documents
[07:49] <filosofo_de_bar> very far. it install drives, power management, etc. i think it fails on the file system check
[07:49] <Shak-> rixth: cant find a package for that with synaptic
[07:49] <filosofo_de_bar> something like that
[07:49] <holycow> !resolution
[07:49] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:50] <holycow> Bob535, there
[07:50] <tanlaan> cwraig_: psu?
 have you tried the bootable cd on any other computers?
[07:50] <Gixbit> Flannel: thanks a bunch
[07:50] <Flannel> shadeofgrey: I have no idea.  'best' depends on a lot of things.
[07:50] <shadeofgrey> Flann:  bearing in mind that i have 4 gig of ram and a good processor...  and a 10,000 rpm SATA drive for myt ubuntu insstallation
[07:50] <rixth> Shak-, it is called "soundconverter"
 power supply unit in your computer (hardware)
[07:50] <|thunder> Shak- make sure the universal repos are uncommentes
[07:50] <rixth> soundconverter - simple sound converter application for GNOME
[07:50] <owen_> alright installed gparted, ran gparted from terminal using sudo... cant seem to find a live cd maker option
[07:50] <filosofo_de_bar> no, i havent
[07:50] <|thunder> *uncommented
[07:50] <shadeofgrey> Flann:  okay well.. like i said i need something for writing novels with
 there may be a problem with your cd so you could check that out
[07:51] <Shak-> rixth: ah I see it
[07:51] <tanlaan> cwraig_: umm I am on an iMac G3 which has a built in power supply, so im using the one it came with
[07:51] <shadeofgrey> flann; it needs to be ablke to handlke huge documents and handle     text editing very well. but it doesnt have to have the best intervface or something
[07:51] <filosofo_de_bar> is there a way to check without other computer?
[07:51] <Flannel> shadeofgrey: right, try googling.  I have no idea.  Does OOo not work well with large documents?  How about the alternativeS? (the office things packaged with Kubuntu, and Xubuntu)
 you could check the md5 sum
[07:51] <shadeofgrey> i havent tried xubuntu or k ubuntu
[07:52] <shadeofgrey> speaking of..  i need help with those.
[07:52] <dubuntu> when I do ctrl + alt + f1 console does not comes !!
[07:52] <filosofo_de_bar> how do i check it?
[07:52] <shadeofgrey> Flannel; would you walk with me in private for a few minutes i need guidance
[07:52] <filosofo_de_bar> at this moment, i'm using win xp. there's a way to check from here?
[07:52] <cwraig_> filo> what os you on?
[07:52] <Flannel> shadeofgrey: you're welcome to message me, sure.  Although, it's just as well to talk in the channel
[07:52] <cwraig_> filo> hang on
[07:52] <DShepherd> shadeofgrey: abiword looks nicer.. but its not as powerful as OOo... in my opinion. I am not sure how well abiword handles large documents. you could try it out
[07:53] <owen_> do i have to run a special command through the terminal, to make a gparted live cd?
[07:53] <cwraig_> filo>what program did you use to burn the iso?
[07:53] <Flannel> owen_: you'd have to download it, and then burn the iso to a CD
[07:53] <filosofo_de_bar> alcohol 120 %
[07:53] <owen_> ah, I installed the package lol
[07:53] <nalpha> guys i want to ask to you all what program's like activedirectory in ubuntu? that can be used in ubuntu?
[07:54] <owen_> i assume the package isnt the same thing, because the gparted package in the repositories isnt showing nfts support for my disks
[07:54] <cwraig_> filo> http://mirror.href.com/thestarman/DOS/MD5progs.html
[07:54] <verbose> nalpha: samba
[07:54] <bananapc> hey does anyone have any idea why gparted can't detect my hard disk? i'm using 6.06 install cd, and the install part stalls
[07:54] <verbose> nalpha: in what sense to you mean "like" ad
[07:54] <filosofo_de_bar> thanks man
[07:54] <cwraig_> thats a bit of a desc it has some links to programs to check the sum and you should find what it should be next to the download button on the ubuntu website
[07:54] <Bob535> question, does anyone else have issues with the screen shot feature popping up on keypresses that it should not
[07:54] <shadeofgrey> heres what i need to know
[07:54] <Flannel> owen_: the gparted in the repositories does have ntfs support, since... well, at least Breezy.
[07:55] <shadeofgrey> i have dapper running on my primary harddrive.  theres an installation of grub in the mbr of that primary disk.
[07:55] <shadeofgrey> i havce a second drive which is for nothing but storage
[07:55] <shadeofgrey> and a third drive thats a 40gig sata disk that i use for testing other distributions
[07:56] <shadeofgrey> heres whgat i need to know -- as soon as i download xubuntu id like to install it on my 3rd disk -- because it currently has a very old install of ubuntu breezy on it that i dont need anymore
[07:56] <cwraig> d
[07:57] <shadeofgrey> what i need to know is -- how do i install xubuntu on the third disk and then make sure that an entry is added to the grub list on my primary disk?  bvecause i dont want to install xubuntu and have it put another bootloader in the mbr of third disk
[07:57] <Bob535> for example my down key will not work while running xconfig in terminal
[07:57] <shadeofgrey> is that in any way unclear?
[07:57] <Bob535> it just takes a screen shot
[07:57] <Flannel> shadeofgrey: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation   for installing without burning.
[07:57] <shadeofgrey> i dont mind burning.
[07:57] <shadeofgrey> thats notthe issue
 it should look for an existing copy of grub and just use it
[07:58] <Flannel> shadeofgrey: oh, um, when you install xubuntu, it'll install grub, and it should detect everything.  If you DONT want to risk it not working, just add an entry to your grub menu.
 it should just od it automaticly. ive done it before without a prob
[07:58] <shadeofgrey> i need to know how to tell the xubuntu installer to add a entry to grub on my primary disk rather than installing grub AGAIN on the third disk
[07:58] <Unix_n_Coffee> i know alien converts rpm to deb but is that stable with my package? could anything go wrong?
[07:58] <WillyMF1> Hi, I'm having trouble installing ubuntu. It seems to stall out showing ATA messages... I have a Asus P4G8X Deluxe MB with onboard SATA controller and a WD Raptor drive. A few months ago I could boot off the CD but could not partition... now I cant even get to the GUI stage.
 you should just be able to folow the prompts like a normal install it should do what you want automaticly
[07:59] <rixth> It's funny, Totem will play the non-free formats(mov, wmv etc) but will not play XviD.
[08:00] <Flannel> WillyMF1: try installing from the alternate ISO
[08:00] <shadeofgrey> okay.
[08:00] <Unix_n_Coffee> rixth VLC ;)
[08:00] <rixth> VLC is yucky looking
[08:00] <WillyMF1> Flannel: alright. Thank you
[08:00] <shadeofgrey> so i should selkect NOT installing grub when ik do the install of xubuntu and then add a link to it in the grub menu thats on my primary disk
[08:00] <shadeofgrey> i can handle that
[08:01] <shadeofgrey> hoiw do i make the new entry in the grub menu that already exists tho?
[08:01] <girish> hi all.....i have AMD2400 with asus n8xvm board which supports sharing ram video processing but i dont get the performance which i get while using Windows XP on Ubuntu. Is there something i can do?
[08:01] <gdb> Unix_n_Coffee: It will install its files in places that are appropriate for an RPM based system (most likely Red Hat/Fedora).  These locations will generally be compatible with a Debian based system, but may not be.  For example, a user application like, say, gaim, is likely to work correctly.  A system utility or application like, for example, iptables, is not likely to work.
[08:01] <Unix_n_Coffee> at least it works  :) i installed many of codecs too :)) everything on my ubuntu comp is working perfect!
[08:01] <slid3r> hey newb question: bash: make: command not found ... um
[08:01] <slid3r> what?
[08:01] <Unix_n_Coffee> ok thanks gdb
[08:01] <Unix_n_Coffee> :)
[08:02] <gdb> Unix_n_Coffee: All of the proprietary codecs are provided in the Universe and Multiverse repositories.
[08:02] <Unix_n_Coffee> i know how to install it just curious ;) thanks again gdb
[08:02] <verbose> slid3r: sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[08:02] <gdb> Unix_n_Coffee: Packages specifically for Ubuntu.
[08:02] <shadeofgrey> god i love bittorrent
[08:02] <slid3r> nice
[08:02] <slid3r> thx
[08:02] <shadeofgrey> im pulling xubuntu iso at almost 600k a sec
[08:02] <gdb> build-essential, there is no trailing 's' ;-)
[08:02] <Unix_n_Coffee> gdb thanks ... tho its a torrent download
[08:02] <Unix_n_Coffee> limewire pro
[08:02] <shadeofgrey> the full CD will take 7 mins to download at that rate
[08:02] <verbose> gdb: oops, thanks
[08:02] <slid3r> gotcha
[08:02] <verbose> sorry slid3r
[08:02] <slid3r> heh thx both
[08:02] <gdb> Unix_n_Coffee: No worries, most software will work fine when converted with alien, just be advised that not *all* software will work.
[08:02] <slid3r> nooo worries
[08:03] <Unix_n_Coffee> gdb thanks :))
[08:03] <shadeofgrey> hey i had a question
[08:03] <girish> hi all.....i have AMD2400 with asus n8xvm board which supports sharing ram video processing but i dont get the performance which i get while using Windows XP on Ubuntu. Is there something i can do?
[08:03] <shadeofgrey> is ubuntu or other distributions of linux capable of handling quad core and quad sli graphics setups
[08:04] <shadeofgrey> im thiunking about buying one of the quad sli machines from alienware -- with 6 gig of ram running at 800mghz and a 1 ghtz fronmtside bus
[08:04] <nicholaspaul> I think i messed up - I booted from an install disk to format a drive, then when i removed it and restarted, it hangs after the BIOS. Could the install have messed up somehow?
[08:04] <shadeofgrey> but i wont bother if all of you say its impossible to take advantage oif the dual core set of 2processors and the four nvidia  graphics cards
[08:04] <cwraig> quad core (better then windows) but quad sli (support is very minimal)
[08:05] <holycow> shadeofgrey, its not even that, wtf are you going to use it for?
[08:05] <shadeofgrey> okay what about just SLI then
[08:05] <holycow> apps haveto be coded to use smp
[08:05] <Flannel> shadeofgrey: try google.  Nvidias been pretty helpful to linux.
[08:05] <holycow> there aren't that many that actualy are built for smp first, and second most apps don't need it
[08:05] <shadeofgrey> holycrow; so that i can run absolutely anything i want
[08:05] <holycow> shadeofgrey, anything what?
[08:05] <holycow> there is nothing really built for smp
[08:06] <cwraig> if you use smp and switch to a source based distro like (debian) everything should be optimised? isnt that rigth?
[08:06] <gdb> shadeofgrey: Regardless of Linux taking advantage of it, I can guarantee *you* won't take advantage of that much hardware, and your money would be better spent on something else.
[08:06] <holycow> cwraig, everything is a source based distro
[08:06] <girish> hi all.....i have AMD2400 with asus n8xvm board which supports sharing ram video processing but i dont get the performance on Ubuntu.which i used to get while using Windows XP.  Is there something i can do?
[08:06] <Evil_Ed`> yo
[08:06] <shadeofgrey> holycrow; well, blender...gimp...  and then with all the ram and shit i can wine photoshop CS2 and all the other windows apps i cant use in linux
[08:06] <holycow> cwraig, and what you mean to say is either gentoo or bsd, debian isn't built with that in mind
[08:06] <gdb> Neither is BSD.
[08:06] <holycow> shadeofgrey, quad systems are meant for VERY VERY special purpose tasks
[08:07] <verbose> solaris probably has the best threading support
[08:07] <shadeofgrey> yeah?
[08:07] <shadeofgrey> so?
[08:07] <gdb> And very very very few Gentoo users actually take advantage of "processor optimization" which really doesn't make a noticable difference.
[08:07] <nicholaspaul> so other than arguinng about gear, can someone help me with my menial problem?
[08:07] <holycow> shadeofgrey, those machines are meant for basically big business types of apps
[08:07] <holycow> shadeofgrey, i don't mean 10 million dollar size businesses, i mean banks
[08:07] <cwraig> nicholas > yea
[08:07] <owen_> i dont know if gparted live cd was suppost to show me a GUI - but i have no idea what to do at the prompt once it loads everything to format nfts partitions
[08:07] <sethk> gdb, and the gcc compiler, in fact, has no meaningful optimizations for p4 or newer processors
[08:07] <nicholaspaul> hi cwraig. is my system recoverable?
[08:07] <holycow> shadeofgrey, you mostly run databases, apps that require a lot of processing power, etc
[08:07] <gdb> shadeofgrey: The point being that spending that much for that hardware for your desktop, instead of impressing people, calls your judgement into question. ;-)
[08:07] <verbose> i don't see where quad sli comes in to play at all though for businesses
[08:07] <shadeofgrey> im very physically handicapped -- as a result i cant drive, i cant play console video games because ionly have one hand that works and hot women dont like dating cripples.  the only thing in life that i have to take pride in is my compuyting setup and i see no reason why i shouldnt buy my own dream machine
[08:08] <holycow> shadeofgrey, there isn't ANYTHING, and i mean ANYTHING on the consumer or even prosumer level that can use that properly
[08:08] <verbose> i think that's just a machine people would buy for bragging rights?
[08:08] <phargle> quad sli, so like 8 cards?
[08:08] <gidim> Ubuntu doesn't love me. :(
[08:08] <phargle> are these dual core video cards too?
[08:08] <shadeofgrey> no
[08:08] <phargle> :)
[08:08] <nicholaspaul> Can you guys please take the arguements somewhere else??
[08:08] <holycow> shadeofgrey, namely, if you get a single cpu system there is NOTHING you can litterally use 3ghz cpu to its full power unless you are rendering 100% of the time
[08:09] <holycow> shadeofgrey, not saying don't buy it, it's your choice, its just that a quad is a very special machine designed for special jobs, usually needing very high level specialist skills to properly use
[08:09] <nicholaspaul> holycow: can you guys please take this somewhere offtopic? Thank you.
[08:09] <holycow> shadeofgrey, for example, when your running oracle on a quad cpu, you need an oracle admin (certified) to properly optimize it
[08:10] <shadeofgrey> holycrow; can  you even remotely conceive of living a life where both your legs and one arm are useless - as a result its a pain in the ass to go jyust about anywhere - and the only thing you have to look forward to is computing? because literally everything else is stuff you can watch but never do youreself?
[08:10] <holycow> shadeofgrey, i'll leave it at that
[08:10] <asathoor> how can I synchronize Kontact with my Motorola phone?
[08:10] <nicholaspaul> shadeofgrey: I think they answered your question.
[08:11] <holycow> shadeofgrey, i'm only explaining what that machine is designed for and what you kinda need to be aware of before you buy it.
[08:11] <holycow> shadeofgrey, purchasing decisions are personal tho :) i completely get where you are comming from
[08:11] <gdb> I'd spend my $6k at the Moonlight Bunny Ranch instead.
[08:12] <nicholaspaul> hi cwraig. Are you the only one offering to help?
[08:12] <holycow> i'd spend the money on training ... if computing is a passion, become good at it.  the toys come pretty much automagically because you tend to get work in those areas
[08:12] <shadeofgrey> holycrow; i sincerely doubt you even remotely understand where im coming from...  but ill accept the fact that your trying.
[08:12] <gdb> Linux will use all 4 CPUs, it will use all 6GB of RAM.  I have no idea on the video card, I'll lay money the answer is "no".
[08:13] <nicholaspaul>  ignore holycow
[08:13] <nicholaspaul> oops
[08:13] <sethk> shadeofgrey, it's natural engineering think to say, justify the cost of the machine.  If you use it for pleasure, however, that's a completely different thing
[08:13] <shadeofgrey> so what if i dedicated 3 cpus to a good distributed computing project?
[08:13] <holycow> shadeofgrey, seth summed up my thoughts in one sentence
[08:13] <phargle> my computer pleasures me
[08:13] <sethk> shadeofgrey, if it is interesting to you, then that's a cost justification in itself
[08:14] <holycow> i don't think it is
[08:14] <slid3r> any one know why when trying to make a kern image I, I sudo make ... and I get:  make[1] : *** No rule to make target `init/main.o', needed by `init/built-in.o'.  Stop.
[08:14] <nicholaspaul> Is this about Ubuntu? Sorry i was looking for the ubuntu channel.
[08:14] <shadeofgrey> and besides...  ill need all the pwoier i can get to run vista
[08:14] <holycow> if you want distributed computing, for 6k you can get A LOT of boxes
[08:14] <sethk> nicholaspaul, what's ubuntu?
[08:14] <Bob535> Godamn, hate this not having a root user
[08:14] <Bob535> how do i create root
[08:14] <Bob535> ?
[08:14] <sethk> Bob535, you do have a root user
[08:14] <nicholaspaul> sethk: i'm trying to remember
[08:14] <gdb> Bob535: root is already there
[08:14] <gidim> I've made two CDs. Neither work.
[08:14] <sethk> Bob535, you just have to set the password
[08:14] <holycow> let me see ... for 6k i can get what ... 15 boxes at 3ghz each?
[08:14] <gdb> Don't even have to set the password.
[08:15] <gdb> Use sudo -i for an interactive shell.
[08:15] <sethk> Bob535, which you can do.  you can do the equivalent also with sudo -i
[08:15] <holycow> you can do a lot more with that than you will with a quad smp machine honestly
[08:15] <shadeofgrey> you cant build 16 computers with 6 grand
[08:15] <Bob535> i hate sudu
[08:15] <Bob535> i want to be able to su
[08:15] <gidim> I'm tired, I have no OS on my system anymore, so it's Live CD or nothing.
[08:15] <sethk> Bob535, sudo passwd
[08:15] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Bob535 about sudo
[08:15] <PeterPowell> hi akk
[08:15] <PeterPowell> *all
[08:15] <Madpilot> Bob535, see the PM the bot just sent you...
[08:15] <PeterPowell> sethk,
[08:15] <sethk> Bob535, then enter _your_ password at the first password prompt.  then, you'll get the normal unix password change prompt
[08:15] <Bob535> i know what it does
[08:15] <PeterPowell> that install worked last night
[08:15] <Unix_n_Coffee> gidim try breezy bagger and just upgrade from breezy bagger to dapper?
[08:15] <gdb> Why do you hate sudo when "sudo -i" and entering your own password is *exactly the same* as typing su - and entering root's password?
[08:15] <sethk> PeterPowell, good, glad to here it
[08:16] <gidim> Huh?
[08:16] <Unix_n_Coffee> hold on :)
[08:16] <Bob535> ah, thanks gdb
[08:16] <Bob535> that makes me feel all warm and fuzzy, its pretty
[08:16] <jon_> can someone help me download and install realplayer? i tried going by the help guide but its not working
[08:16] <holycow> shadeofgrey, a quad is simply a very special machine designed for a specific task ... i would take 2k build a bunch of machines or whatever, and start there.  when you really start maxing that out you will KNOW if you need a quad :)
[08:16] <gdb> Bob535: sudo -i = su - while sudo -s = su (without the dash)
[08:16] <holycow> its a good questiontho
[08:16] <sethk> on the other hand, it's fairly obvious that if sudo -i is exactly the same as su -, then sudo -i is equally dangerous
[08:17] <gdb> It just gives you a "root login" while sudo -s gives you a "root shell", ala su - and su
[08:17] <gdb> Meaning the full shebang with # prompt and everything!
[08:17] <WillyMF1> shadeofgrey: my father had a stroke several years ago, and has only one good arm now. do you have any tips for his computer imput? do you use a regular keyboard? he takes a little while. I would /t you but its not allowed apparently
[08:17] <Flannel> Bob535: be advised, however, once you set a root password, some features of ubuntu cease to work correctly
[08:17] <WillyMF1> damnit
[08:17] <gdb> WillyMF1: If you register your nick with NickServ, you can send private messages to anyone.
[08:18] <Unix_n_Coffee> http://www.oreillynet.com/linux/blog/2006/06/upgrading_to_dapper_turboprint.html
[08:18] <Unix_n_Coffee> :)
[08:18] <gdb> Flannel: That bug was fixed.
[08:18] <gdb> Flannel: and the fix was backported all the way to Hoary.
[08:18] <doughboy> I am trying to get a windows app to run in wine. The app is Students Guide to APA Format. This program comes in handy for school. So far no luck getting it to set up under wine. Any suggestions that might help?
[08:18] <Flannel> gdb: er, which fix?  The rescue mode boot?
[08:18] <gdb> Flannel: The bug where some control panels would not run correctly (or at all) if root had a password set.
[08:19] <BHSPitMonkey> ok, here I have a problem
[08:19] <holycow> !crossoveroffice
[08:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about crossoveroffice - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:19] <BHSPitMonkey> my laptop's in ubuntu, and now my hard drive access light is going solid.
[08:19] <BHSPitMonkey> for no apparent reason.
[08:19] <Flannel> gdb: no, I'm talking about the recovery console.
[08:19] <gdb> As for rescue mode boot, I assume you mean single user mode where you're prompted for the root password if one is set, or drop to a shell if it's not.  That works as expected.
[08:19] <gidim> This has been my day: download AMD64 ISO, burn to CD using a program... forget which, but it worked. Boot to CD, fine. Install... freezes at 57%. Scan for errors, getting mismatch out the wazoo in /pool/main... download the ISO again from command line, burn to CD with Nautilus, use that CD to boot and it won't load or check for errors.
[08:19] <verbose> BHSPitMonkey: maybe a cron job
[08:19] <gdb> Flannel: if you mean something other than single user mode, I'm not aware of the issue.
[08:19] <BHSPitMonkey> verbose, nothing I explicitly set up myself.
[08:20] <Flannel> gidim: burn slower
[08:20] <gidim> So... oh, did I mention I lost my NTFS partition during the first attempted install?
[08:20] <gdb> doh!
[08:20] <gdb> gidim: Flannel's suggestion is probably the way to go. ;-)
[08:20] <gidim> So, it's Ubuntu or bust. :D
[08:20] <BHSPitMonkey> verbose, it's slowing down the OS noticeably, and the gnome panel is unresponsive
[08:20] <Unix_n_Coffee> http://www.debuntu.org is a nice website ;)
[08:20] <BHSPitMonkey> this ain't good.
[08:20] <gidim> If I weren't so tired I might've thought of it.
[08:20] <doughboy> wine
[08:20] <gidim> Recommendations? 4x?
[08:20] <Flannel> gidim: 4x is good.
[08:20] <afflux> morgen...
[08:21] <Flannel> gidim: or, at least, that's what we suggest to people ;)
[08:21] <gidim> Okay, I only have one CDR left.
[08:21] <PeterPowell> lol
[08:21] <BHSPitMonkey> windows is corrupt enough to begin with
[08:21] <gidim> And once I install full here I'll be able to see my NTFS 300GB?
[08:21] <gidim> I miss my mp3 collection.
[08:22] <Flannel> gidim: ubuntu can see it, yes.  Assuming it's still there and stuff.
[08:22] <gidim> I'm not going back to XP, despite my long night of pain, I love my sadistic little Ubuntu.
[08:22] <Unix_n_Coffee> peterpwell u dont need windows ;)
[08:22] <gidim> Hey now, I never touched D!
[08:22] <gidim> I only reformatted C.
[08:22] <Unix_n_Coffee> anyone here use windows?
[08:22] <PeterPowell> Unix_n_Coffee,
[08:22] <PeterPowell> it was on my dads machine
[08:22] <PeterPowell> lol
[08:23] <Unix_n_Coffee> PeterPowell , good job :)) give him gnucash ;) he'll be all set
[08:23] <gidim> I'm free from my bondage at the hands of Dark Overlord Gates.
[08:23] <bigbill52a> you can copy files from linux using explore2fs.exe
[08:23] <Unix_n_Coffee> buy him a office suite openoffice.org :)
[08:23] <BHSPitMonkey> there
[08:23] <BHSPitMonkey> my laptop, in ubuntu, is now completely frozen.
[08:23] <BHSPitMonkey> unresponsive to attempts to kill X, or switch VT's
[08:23] <bigbill52a> you can copy or use files from ntfs partition
[08:24] <PeterPowell> *towers
[08:24] <BHSPitMonkey> this is crazy.
[08:24] <Unix_n_Coffee> BHSPitMonkey mine freezes too i have to i have to do ctrl alt and f1 then f7 or f6
[08:24] <BHSPitMonkey> Unix_n_Coffee, what did I just say.
[08:24] <bigbill52a> i have all my music on ntfs partition, but i play them with amorok
[08:25] <sethk> BHSPitMonkey, sounds like an IRQ Problem
[08:25] <Unix_n_Coffee> BHSPitMonkey your laptop freezes?
[08:25] <BHSPitMonkey> Unix_n_Coffee, if that worked, it wouldn't be "frozen"
[08:25] <BHSPitMonkey> mmhmm
[08:25] <Unix_n_Coffee> oh do this then
[08:25] <Unix_n_Coffee> ctrl alt backspace?
[08:25] <Unix_n_Coffee> :)
[08:25] <BHSPitMonkey> "<BHSPitMonkey> unresponsive to attempts to kill X, or switch VT's"
[08:25] <Unix_n_Coffee> save u some time :)
[08:25] <ompaul> BHSPitMonkey, rather than doing anything can you leave it for a while - 40 minutes and see if it unfreezes
[08:25] <BHSPitMonkey> I don't plan on staying awake for 40 more minutes :P
[08:26] <sethk> BHSPitMonkey, the only thing you can do is a hard reset.  Hopefully something in a log file will tell you what happened.
[08:26] <sethk> BHSPitMonkey, waiting 40 minutes won't change anything.
[08:26] <ompaul> sethk, depends on what the load is like
[08:26] <floppyears> hi
[08:26] <BHSPitMonkey> my HDD access light is still solid, and hasn't changed for a while.
[08:26] <floppyears> I'm trying to install ubuntu in my mac intel
[08:26] <bigbill52a> you can also make a 32 gig or less fat32 partition and read and write from both linux and windows xp...i use to keep one as a scratch partition for sharing files back and forth from the two operating systems
[08:26] <sethk> BHSPitMonkey, it isn't going to change.
[08:26] <ompaul> I have seen runnaway processes calm down over time
[08:26] <floppyears> are there any tips or rules that I can take a look at ?
[08:27] <sethk> ompaul, no, a runaway process won't block control-alt-backspace and alt-f1
[08:27] <smerity> hey, do you guys know what Gnome/Ubuntu uses for detecting Sambas? It's all really nice and integrated, and I wouldn't mind putting the same thing on my Gentoo box
[08:27] <BHSPitMonkey> I don't hear the hdd actually doing anything, though, so I guess a hard reset is safe.
[08:27] <BHSPitMonkey> *sigh*
[08:27] <sethk> BHSPitMonkey, actually, no, it isn't safe
[08:27] <ompaul> sethk, but might stop it from working for a while (all lagged out)
[08:27] <sethk> BHSPitMonkey, but you have no choice
[08:27] <BHSPitMonkey> I might as well be booting into windows on this thing.
[08:27] <sparkleytone> floppyears: are you dual booting or single booting?
[08:27] <sethk> ompaul, a while, like 30 seconds, a minute, perhaps.  longer than that?  no.
[08:28] <ompaul> sethk, I have seen minutes - it was not X it was a mail server that had gotten opinions on how to deal with stuff
[08:28] <ompaul> BHSPitMonkey, can you ssh into it?
[08:28] <BHSPitMonkey> no
[08:28] <BHSPitMonkey> I already did the hard reset.
[08:28] <sparkleytone> floppyears: if you want to dual-boot... http://refit.sf.net ... if you want to only boot ubuntu...repartition the drive as ms-dos and install as you would a normal pc
[08:29] <ompaul> BHSPitMonkey, before you start the box again press esc and do some of the stuff off this
[08:29] <jon_> how do you change the the directory you download a file at the command line?
[08:29] <ompaul> !bootoptions > BHSPitMonkey
[08:29] <jon_> im not sure how to get to the command line
[08:29] <smerity> So no-one knows? You basically just went Places > Networked and it automatically populated from shares available on the network
[08:29] <ompaul> jon_, applications - accessories - terminak
[08:30] <jon_> thnx
[08:30] <floppyears> sparkleytone: dual booting
[08:30] <ompaul> jon_, spell terminak with an l at the end :)
[08:30] <jon_> hm
[08:30] <sparkleytone> floppyears: see above.  http://refit.sf.net
[08:30] <sethk> smerity, samba has a scan feature
[08:30] <jon_> then what do i do?
[08:30] <sparkleytone> floppyears: its a great program
[08:30] <Tsukino> anyone here know acpi? more specifically, how to turn throttling on?
[08:31] <smerity> sethk, I know, but Ubuntu's Gnome seems to automatically have a few things in it, was just trying to find what that was - thanks anyawy
[08:31] <floppyears> sparkleytone: thanks
[08:31] <ompaul> what do you want to download from where - then where do you want to put it - this will dictate what is next
[08:31] <floppyears> sparkleytone: do you have a macintel and dual boot yourself ?
[08:31] <sethk> smerity, you can trace the execution of the file browser and find out what it runs
[08:32] <smerity> sethk - yeah, don't have an ubuntu install with me, all good tho
[08:32] <BHSPitMonkey> *sigh* I have to get to sleep.
[08:32] <BHSPitMonkey> night, ubuntu.
[08:32] <MistaED> hey i have a friend here who is trying to install dapper i386 with the desktop installer, he gets to it installing but at 98% the whole computer locks up, any ideas why? very vague but that's about all the info i can get, i'll try to get him in here
[08:33] <filosofo_de_bar> cwraig, ive finished testing the md5sum. it's ok, matching all the files on the cd and the iso on the site
[08:33] <filosofo_de_bar> what should i do now?
[08:33] <ompaul> jon_ what do you want to download from where - then where do you want to put it - this will dictate what is next
[08:34] <FloK_> should php cgi work out of the box on 6.06 when apache2 and php is installed?
[08:34] <jon_> i dl realplayer
[08:34] <jon_> i want to install it
[08:34] <jon_> thats all i really know, the help guide is trying to confuse me
[08:34] <FloK_> i try phpmyadmin and apache doesnt handle it
[08:34] <human> hi all.....i have AMD2400 with asus n8xvm board which supports sharing ram video processing but i dont get the performance on Ubuntu.which i used to get while using Windows XP.  Is there something i can do?
[08:35] <sparkleytone> floppyears: i single-boot ubuntu-server on my colocated intel mini
[08:36] <backz> I was instaled xubuntu-desktop package on my ubuntu. But I was back to ubuntu-desktop (I really prefer gnome), it changed my boot screem to "XUBUNTU" logo. How I change it again to default ubuntu logo at boot screem ?
[08:36] <jon_> basically it wants me to make the bin file i downloaded executable
[08:36] <jon_> thats what im stuck on
[08:37] <sethk> jon_, chmod +x filename
[08:37] <jon_> type that in the terminal?
[08:37] <afflux> any ideas why my icons in kde-apps have gone? this happend some time after I installed QtCurve... May this be the problem?
[08:37] <floppyears> sparkleytone: nice
[08:37] <bayzider> ok im not even sure if this question belongs here
[08:37] <sethk> jon_, yes,   filename is the name of the file you downloaded.   chmod -x says "make executable"
[08:38] <human> backz: u can make it anything by configuring the login screen u have the tool in start menu
[08:38] <jon_> it says cannot access, no such file or directory
[08:38] <bayzider> i have ubuntu and windwos dual booted and im tryingto install ipl and im useing the aes ultilty (its kinda like fidsk) but when i look at all my drives and partions and shit my ipod is not listed just some random 8mb drive and windows ubuntu and swap
[08:38] <jon_> but i know the fle is there, its on my desktop
[08:39] <backz> human, it isn't gdm. is booting screen
[08:40] <human> backz :wat exactly u want?
[08:40] <bayzider> any one
[08:40] <ompaul> !realplayer > jon_   it is in the repos
[08:40] <ubotu> I'll remember that
[08:40] <backz> human, change the screen logo at kernel boot time to default ubuntu logo.
[08:40] <backz> not xubuntu
[08:40] <backz> =P
[08:40] <ompaul> !repos > jon_
[08:41] <jon_> i dunno what the repository is or how to get to it
[08:41] <Amaranth> ubotu: botsnack
[08:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about botsnack - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:41] <Amaranth> grr
[08:41] <bayzider> any one
[08:41] <jon_> are you making the bot talk to me?
[08:41] <gidim> It's late, I'm tired, I can't even for the life of me remember where my ISO is downloaded to, let alone what to do with it after I find it...
[08:42] <ompaul> jon_, yes you need multiverse
[08:42] <ompaul> jon_, then you can install it from synaptic
[08:42] <human> backz: u juzt install art manager software it will help u in all way related to display
[08:42] <mournahan> Azureus in ubuntu help
[08:42] <TheGame> is there a shockwave plugin for linux
[08:42] <mournahan> I ger DHT firewalled
[08:43] <jon_> okay but shouldnt chmod work?
[08:43] <human> backz: u can configure anything with art manager
[08:43] <bayzider> any one i really need help
[08:43] <human> hi all.....i have AMD2400 with asus n8xvm board which supports sharing ram video processing but i dont get the performance on Ubuntu.which i used to get while using Windows XP.  Is there something i can do?
[08:43] <TheGame> anyone?
[08:43] <thundr> TheGame, there is a flash plugin, not sure about shockwave
[08:43] <ompaul> !anyone
[08:43] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:43] <TheGame> ya i have flash
[08:44] <noiesmo> no shockwave for linux
[08:44] <thundr> ompaul, he's already asked his main question
[08:44] <TheGame> hmm
[08:44] <thundr> yet
[08:44] <bayzider> hello
[08:44] <debrisss> whoa - lotsa people in here!
[08:44] <thundr> yeah
[08:44] <debrisss> hey everyone
[08:44] <noiesmo> hey debrisss
[08:44] <thundr> hi debrisss
[08:44] <debrisss> :)
[08:44] <TheGame> hmm
[08:45] <jon_> where do i get multiverse?
[08:45] <debrisss> who wants to congratulate me for successfully switching to ubuntu, AND liking it??? :)
[08:45] <pepe> first time in here
[08:45] <afflux> me!
[08:45] <pepe> 763 people connected?
[08:45] <afflux> congratulations debrisss!
[08:45] <thundr> congratulations, debrisss :)
[08:45] <noiesmo> !multiverse
[08:45] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:45] <bayzider> can some one help me
[08:45] <noiesmo> !easysource
[08:45] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:45] <debrisss> i even got my pocket pc to SYNC!!!
[08:45] <sethk> bayzider, not unless you ask a question
[08:46] <human> hi all.....i have AMD2400 with asus n8xvm board which supports sharing ram video processing but i dont get the performance on Ubuntu.which i used to get while using Windows XP.  Is there something i can do?
[08:46] <bayzider> i already did
[08:46] <bayzider> ill paste
[08:46] <ompaul> bayzider, maybe no one has the answer to your queiston,. and please stop with the anyone - ask once wait 15 if no answer ask again
[08:46] <Madpilot> pepe, 763 is a slightly slow day in in #ubuntu :)
[08:46] <thundr> bayzider, don't paste
[08:46] <sethk> bayzider, I didn't see a question, don't paste more than a line or two
[08:46] <debrisss> one question - is there an easy way to upgrade firefox to the latest beta?
[08:47] <bayzider>  have ubuntu and windwos dual booted and im tryingto install ipl and im useing the aes ultilty (its kinda like fidsk) but when i look at all my drives and partions and shit my ipod is not listed just some random 8mb drive and windows ubuntu and swap
[08:47] <ompaul> bayzider, also maybe you would like to use the full words
[08:47] <ompaul> !langauge
[08:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about langauge - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:47] <ompaul> !language
[08:47] <thundr> !language
[08:47] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:47] <sethk> !spelling   :)
[08:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about spelling   :) - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:47] <ompaul> thundr, still slow :)
[08:47] <jon_> where do i go to get multiverse?
[08:47] <thundr> :)
[08:47] <ompaul> jon_, I sent you the link
[08:47] <jon_> oh you did? my bad
[08:47] <debrisss> is there an easy way to upgrade firefox to the latest beta?
[08:48] <jon_> i didnt see it on the page
[08:48] <jon_> just info
[08:48] <RunUO22748> debrisss yes there is
[08:48] <debrisss> ooh - do tell!
[08:48] <ompaul> !multiverse jon_
[08:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about multiverse jon_ - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:48] <ompaul> !multiverse > jon_
[08:48] <human> debrisss: cannot u do that with synaptic package manage
[08:48] <human> ?
[08:48] <RunUO22748> debrisss chance repo then apt-get
[08:48] <debrisss> chance repo?
[08:49] <debrisss> which repo has firefox beta?
[08:49] <RunUO22748> debrisss uh the unstable thing
[08:49] <human> hi all.....i have AMD2400 with asus n8xvm board which supports sharing ram video processing but i dont get the performance on Ubuntu.which i used to get while using Windows XP.  Is there something i can do?
[08:50] <sethk> human, you mean specifically about the video performance?  You may be able to configure X to use a frame buffer
[08:50] <Hiryu> is it possible to install eclipse without gcj? I want to use eclipse and azureus using sun's jdk, not gcj
[08:50] <debrisss> still lost - which repo? I have all of them except for LTS backports enabled
[08:51] <sethk> Hiryu, I don't  know about azureus, but I've used eclipse with sun's java jdk.  installed from tarball, though, not from repositories
[08:51] <noiesmo> human, you can specfiy videoRAM in xorg.conf might help you
[08:51] <pfalcone> Hiryu - it is indeed possible
[08:51] <human> sethk: i tried to run the race game torcs but the performance doesn't match while running  NFS on WindowsX
[08:51] <pfalcone> you'd have to rename something in /etc/eclipse to look for the proper JVM
[08:52] <debrisss> ...
[08:52] <debrisss> anyone know the repository that has firefox beta on it?
[08:52] <sethk> human, you an try configuring X to use the frame buffer, which implies sharing the video memory
[08:52] <human> sethk: how to configure X to use frame buffer
[08:52] <human> ?
[08:52] <Hiryu> hmm
[08:52] <Hiryu> looks like the /usr/bin/java link points to the wrong java
[08:52] <Hiryu> how do I run update-alternatives to get it to point to the correct java?
[08:53] <human> sethk: is it by addin vga line to grub?
[08:53] <sethk> human, no, that has nothing to do with x
[08:53] <farous> Hiryu: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[08:54] <sethk> human, it's complicated, involving kernel configuration as well as X configuration.  Look for info on the web; I've not done it with that particular video board.
[08:54] <ompaul> !timetable > debrisss
[08:54] <consentm> is there any way to read reiserfs partition from windows?
[08:54] <ompaul> debrisss, I do not believe there is such a beast for dapper
[08:54] <human> sethk: ok
[08:55] <Olathe> consentm : http://yareg.akucom.de/
[08:55] <thundr> there is?  cool.
[08:55] <debrisss> ompaul: you mean no repository for dapper with firefox beta on it?
[08:55] <Hiryu> ok, I think I figured it out
[08:55] <Hiryu> it's like update-java-alternatives
[08:55] <ompaul> debrisss, that is what I mean
[08:55] <human> f
[08:55] <debrisss> ompaul: ok, so how do i install firefox beta without apt-get?
[08:56] <ompaul> debrisss, read the message from ubotu to explain why we don't chase those options (most of the time)
[08:56] <jon_> arent packages different than programs?
[08:56] <ompaul> jon_, a package is a program with all the parts needed to make that program run
[08:57] <debrisss> ompaul: still doesn't change the fact that i've tested firefox beta, like it a LOT and want it on my system ;)
[08:58] <sethk> jon_, depends.  some are groups of programs, but a package can be a set of files for a single program.
[08:58] <ompaul> debrisss, well I have not looked - has anyone packaged it for Ubuntu dapper? if so then download it [IF YOU TRUST THEM]  and do dpkg -i firefox.whatevernametheygaveit
[08:58] <ompaul> debrisss, and also if you do install it will it break your dapper?
[08:59] <debrisss> ompaul: i don't know if ANYONE has done it - i've found the tar.gz
[08:59] <jon_> why wont my compter recognize a file on my desktop?
[08:59] <ompaul> debrisss, and also I'll retype that: if you install will it break your dapper?
[08:59] <sethk> jon_, what do you mean by "not recognize"?
[08:59] <jon_> it wont let me change it in the terminal
[09:00] <debrisss> ompaul: i don't know, i've only read about linux users who got it working no problem, so i imagine that it won't break my dapper
[09:00] <ompaul> from what to what?
[09:00] <jon_> bin to exe
[09:00] <sethk> jon_, what do you mean by "it won't let me"?  instead of misinterpreting what is happening, tell us what you type and what happens.
[09:00] <jon_> with the chmod
[09:00] <ompaul> jon_, there is no exe in linux world :-) and chmod does not do that job
[09:00] <jon_> im sorry
[09:00] <jon_> make the bin executable
[09:00] <jon_> with chmod +x
[09:01] <ompaul> jon_, this is realplayer there is one in the repos ... use it
[09:01] <jon_> but the terminal thinks i have no such file
[09:01] <sethk> jon_, because the file is not in your home directory, it is in $HOME/Desktop
[09:01] <sethk> jon_, you do have no such file.  because it isn't in the directory where your command line starts.
[09:01] <sethk> jon_, so do this:   cd Desktop
[09:02] <sethk> jon_, then do     ls     which lists files.  you should see the file
[09:02] <thelance> hey new user here
[09:03] <thelance> does anyone know how i can install VLC?
[09:03] <jon_> cd desktop on the terminal?
[09:03] <Madpilot> jon_, cd Desktop - case matter in Linux
[09:03] <sethk> jon_, not desktop, Desktop.   you have to type the correct things.
[09:03] <Madpilot> matters, even
[09:03] <thelance> ?
[09:03] <ompaul> debrisss, give me a few minutes to look see but frankly, I strongly suggest against it, wait until it is packaged by someone who knows what they are doing
[09:03] <jon_> right on
[09:03] <jon_> awesome
[09:04] <rixxon> why am i never successfull with connecting to wlans?
[09:04] <sethk> jon_, to save typing, you could have done this:    cd De<tab>
[09:04] <debrisss> ompaul: i haven't found anything YET, but i'd be surprised if nobody had packaged it yet - firefox beta rocks
[09:04] <thelance> df
[09:04] <sethk> jon_, the tab key will complete the word for you, in this case Desktop
[09:04] <thelance> can anyone see my typing?
[09:04] <thelance> anyone?
[09:04] <kedarguru> yeah
[09:04] <rixxon> yes
[09:04] <kedarguru> alright
[09:04] <thelance> k just wondering
[09:04] <sethk> thelance, no, we can't see anything
[09:04] <kedarguru> did you just try
[09:04] <ompaul> debrisss, question a beta of what version
[09:04] <kedarguru> sudo apt-get install vcl?
[09:04] <jon_> good times
[09:04] <debrisss> ompaul: 2.0
[09:05] <debrisss> beta 1
[09:05] <kedarguru> *vlc my bad
[09:05] <thelance> k
[09:05] <jon_> will it tell me if chmod +x worked?
[09:05] <jon_> or just skip to another line?
[09:05] <kedarguru> u pretty much use that to install anything
[09:05] <thelance> it couldn't find it
[09:05] <consentm> Olathe: Thanks :) You just made my day- I never thought these files could be retrieved from the reiserfs partition-
[09:06] <shawnr_> ahhh, just finished installing ubuntu 64
[09:06] <kedarguru> ahhh someone help me
[09:06] <kedarguru> the totem plugin for firefox doesn't install on my laptop
[09:06] <thelance> yeah it couldn't find the Vlc package
[09:06] <kedarguru> it says broken package?
[09:06] <sethk> jon_, it will give you a new prompt on a new line.  you can check that it worked by doing this:   ls -l
[09:06] <thelance> it says it cant find the package
[09:06] <jon_> well
[09:07] <jon_> hm
[09:07] <sethk> jon_, that will list all files in the directory, in long format.  the x in the beginning of the line means executable
[09:07] <jon_> it prompted me for a pw
[09:07] <jon_> when i tried to sudo ./
[09:07] <sethk> jon_, you don't need sudo to chmod that file
[09:07] <jon_> then it said error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:07] <jon_> dont i need to install it after i chmod
[09:07] <thelance> root@TheLanceBox:/home/thelance # sudo apt-get install vlc
[09:07] <thelance> Reading package lists... Done
[09:07] <thelance> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:07] <thelance> E: Couldn't find package vlc
[09:08] <thelance> thats what it told me
[09:08] <sethk> jon_, you have to install libstdc++ version 5 to use that binary
[09:08] <kedarguru> hm
[09:08] <kedarguru> u probably need to enable extra repositories or something
[09:08] <sethk> jon_, if you let the package system install it for you, it takes care of such problems.
[09:08] <jon_> crap
[09:08] <kedarguru> this is my first day with linux
[09:08] <kedarguru> ever
[09:08] <kedarguru> hahaha
[09:08] <kedarguru> sorry :-(
[09:08] <jon_> how do i open up the package system
[09:08] <sethk> jon_, synaptic
[09:08] <thelance> mine too
[09:08] <kedarguru> sweet
[09:08] <thelance> this is a first time linux user
[09:08] <borut> Hello,whats the name of app in menubar with 5 monitorshttp://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_id=320139963406b8c930c5a0&p=screen
[09:09] <kedarguru> same
[09:09] <sethk> jon_, sudo synaptic, actually.  when it asks you for your password, type your password
[09:09] <kedarguru> my problem is
[09:09] <thelance> i dont need a password
[09:09] <thelance> im in the the root terminal
[09:09] <jon_> right
[09:09] <kedarguru> hm
[09:09] <jon_> can  i do it through add applications?
[09:10] <jon_> i dont think i found it in synaptic
[09:10] <Madpilot> jon_, which package are you looking for?
[09:10] <jon_> i already have the package tho
[09:10] <jon_> how do i open it up?
[09:10] <thelance> root@TheLanceBox:/home/thelance # sudo apt-get update
[09:10] <thelance> Get:1 http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security Release.gpg [189B] 
[09:10] <thelance> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security Release
[09:10] <thelance> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security/main Packages
[09:10] <thelance> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security/restricted Packages
[09:10] <thelance> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security/main Sources
[09:10] <thelance> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security/restricted Sources
[09:10] <thelance> Fetched 1B in 0s (1B/s)
[09:10] <jon_> it prompted me when i dl it, but i dunno how to get back to it
[09:10] <thelance> Reading package lists... Done
[09:10] <thelance> root@TheLanceBox:/home/thelance # sudo apt-get install vlc vlc-plugin-esd
[09:10] <thelance> Reading package lists... Done
[09:10] <thelance> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:10] <RunUO22748> thelance STOP GLOODING
[09:10] <thelance> E: Couldn't find package vlc
[09:10] <thelance> root@TheLanceBox:/home/thelance #
[09:11] <RunUO22748> thelance www.pastebin.org
[09:11] <kedarguru> can someone help me :-(
[09:11] <thelance> sorry
[09:11] <rixxon> !info vlc
[09:11] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player for all audio and video formats. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 7620 kB, installed size 18808 kB
[09:11] <Madpilot> thelance, next time, pastebin!
[09:11] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell thelance about paste
[09:11] <kedarguru> when I try to install the totem plugin for firefox...
[09:11] <thelance> what abut paste?
[09:11] <rixxon> !universe > thelance
[09:12] <Madpilot> jon_, what exactly are you trying to install?
[09:12] <thelance> vlc
[09:12] <kedarguru> it says unmet dependency on totem-gstreamer...
[09:12] <Madpilot> thelance, check your PMs, you should have several from ubotu
[09:12] <thelance> yeah
[09:12] <kedarguru> but I have the latest totem-gstreamer, and everything else seems to check out... but it keeps saying broken package?
[09:13] <jon_> realplayer
[09:13] <nathanial> hey folks. I have a quick question.
[09:13] <nathanial> I can't find any good 'daily planners' for ubuntu
[09:13] <holycow> ask away
[09:13] <nathanial> any ideas???
[09:14] <Madpilot> !info realplayer
[09:14] <ubotu> realplayer: Real Player (installer). In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 8.0.11 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 208 kB (Only available for i386)
[09:14] <Madpilot> jon_, enable Multiverse and install realplayer
[09:14] <ompaul> debrisss, I downloaded it - extracted it - it is a beta 1 release - that is "testers only thank you" you will see something in this channel when someone does enough work for it to work on ubuntu
[09:14] <jon_> i dunno how to enable multiverse
[09:14] <noiesmo> kedarguru, do sudo apt-get remove totem-gstreamer and then do sudo apt-get install totem-xine insead
[09:14] <holycow> nathanial, daily planner? you mean calendaring?
[09:14] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell jon_ about multiverse
[09:14] <nathanial> holycow. yes.
[09:14] <jon_> i already went to that site
[09:14] <jon_> twice
[09:14] <nathanial> I found one for xfce, but I don't want to have to log out of gnome to use it.
[09:14] <Madpilot> nathanial, try clicking on your clock, that brings up a decent calendaring program, connected to Evolution
[09:15] <thelance> im confused
[09:15] <Madpilot> jon_, read that page thru, it will tell you how to enable Multiverse...
[09:15] <debrisss> ompaul:  nobody's gotten firefox beta working for ubuntu yet???? (sorry, it's just... hard to believe...)
[09:15] <holycow> nathanial, evolution is not good enough?
[09:15] <ompaul> debrisss, you can't find it - and I am not going to work on it - it did not work out of the box and encourage me to debug it - so there ends my participation
[09:15] <nathanial> holycow. it should be good enough.
[09:15] <rredd4> Madpilot  maybe someone could add something to ubo tu to warn them about flooding, which could direct them to the pastebin
[09:16] <nalpha> guys how to mount samba file sharing can like this smb://lserver/share ???
[09:16] <blish> noutolisda mir noug
[09:16] <nathanial> thanks!!
[09:16] <holycow> nathanial, sure
[09:16] <kedarguru> thanks noiesmo
[09:16] <debrisss> ok - surreal, but ok
[09:16] <debrisss> thanks ompaul
[09:16] <ompaul> !pastebin
[09:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:16] <blish> findis+term
[09:16] <noiesmo> kedarguru, k np ;)
[09:16] <Madpilot> rredd4, there's a link to pastebin in the /topic here
[09:16] <nalpha> guys how to mount samba file sharing can like this smb://lserver/share ???
[09:16] <ompaul> rredd4, like that one there ^^
[09:16] <smee56> help
[09:16] <kedarguru> how did you figure that out :-O
[09:16] <smee56> i have lost my gui can any one help
[09:17] <ompaul> jon_, have you actally looked a  the repos link? the second part of that line
[09:17] <ompaul> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[09:17] <noiesmo> kedarguru, years of experience
[09:17] <kedarguru> is totem-xine a newer version of totem-gstreamer or something?
[09:17] <rredd4> Madpilot i know, it was just a suggestion for those that flood accidently...
[09:17] <noiesmo> kedarguru, na just kidding
[09:17] <snowman> speaking of samba, I can get it running on this box so that people can see the printer, but not home directories. I've set them browseable, uncommented the home dir line in smb.conf and made sure the user had a valid password and no joy.  suggestions?
[09:17] <smee56> anyone
[09:17] <Madpilot> rredd4, sometimes they just get muted, not kicked; I happened to use /remove this time
[09:18] <kedarguru> :-P
[09:18] <Madpilot> smee56, 'lost your gui' - what exactly do you mean?
[09:18] <ompaul> rredd4, you do the python for a bot to do that and hand it to seveas under the gpl and he can look and have it mute the user at the same time explaining how they can get their ability to talk back and it still won't work :(
[09:19] <ompaul> rredd4, because people are people :)
[09:19] <noiesmo> kedarguru, I not sure how but I know I was muching around with totem and gstreamer and in the end xine was the go
[09:19] <kiwigander> Hi all, I'm looking for help with my scanner.  I'm pretty unfamiliar with IRC so please excuse any stuff-ups or gaffes.
[09:19] <kedarguru> haha
[09:19] <kedarguru> b/c I hadn't had this problem ever before
[09:19] <kedarguru> then again this is like my second day using ubuntu and linux :-O
[09:19] <snowman> ok, odd.
[09:20] <taigeR__> seems like wpasupplicant is broken
[09:20] <noiesmo> kedarguru, np :) for most multimedia i use xine based stuff and then mplayer and the w32codecs
[09:20] <rredd4> Madpilot  when I was a newbie, someone told me to copy some info to a channel.  I did what they told me and got yelled at for flooding.  I did not even know about flooding.
[09:20] <kedarguru> haha am I the only one to notice
[09:20] <snowman> now I can see the "username" dir, and another called "homes" that is the users home dir.
[09:20] <taigeR__> anybody know where i can get a good version ?
[09:20] <kedarguru> ubuntu is wikipedia article of the day
[09:20] <rredd4> ompaul   yeah i know....
[09:20] <kedarguru> woohoo
[09:20] <taigeR__> it's missing /init.d/wpasupplicant file
[09:20] <ompaul> !scanner > kedarguru
[09:20] <taigeR__> anybody know?
[09:20] <shawnr_> !mp3
[09:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:20] <Madpilot> kedarguru, it's been posted to several Ubuntu mailing lists, actually. It's cool, though!
[09:20] <ompaul> rredd4, at the end of the day it is a balance of 80:20 we have done the 80 the 20 will five no reward
[09:20] <noiesmo> taigeR__, I know from what i read you have to set up a lot or wpasupplicant
[09:20] <snowman> suggestions really welcomed :|
[09:21] <jon_> thanks, i must have missed that link =)
[09:21] <kedarguru> what does !scanner do?
[09:21] <ompaul> shawnr_, do  /msg ubotu keyword and dont spam the channel thanks
[09:21] <kedarguru> someone scanner'd me :-O
[09:21] <taigeR__> noiesmo, what do you suggest?
[09:21] <ompaul> kedarguru, check for a message from ubotu :-)
[09:21] <taigeR__> is there anything else other than wpasupplicant?
[09:21] <kedarguru> oh
[09:21] <kedarguru> haha
[09:21] <kedarguru> thanks ompaul my bad
[09:21] <ompaul> !enter
[09:21] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[09:22] <kiwigander> Scanner doesn't - at least not since I upgraded from breezy to dapper.  It's recognised by all the sane command line tools but neither xsane nor iscan will communicate with it.
[09:22] <ompaul> kedarguru, less is more ;-)
[09:22] <holycow> noiesmo, the problem is the inverse of that and it is the curse of humanity
[09:22] <holycow> noiesmo, people are too lazy to look it up, my self included
[09:22] <jon_> are you guys like tech support?
[09:23] <Bob535> Anyone know why my azureus warnings will not go away?
[09:23] <holycow> jon_, no, just fellow users helping out fellow users
[09:23] <Madpilot> jon_, everyone here is a volunteer, so we're only sort of like tech support :)
[09:23] <kedarguru> sweet
[09:23] <jon_> right on
[09:23] <holycow> jon_, you know a family, not a corporation trying to scam you for every penny you have
[09:23] <RifleEyes> I am such a newb.
[09:23] <shawnr_> ive added all the gstreamer codecs, but rythmbox still wont play mp3s
[09:23] <jon_> yea, screw windows
[09:23] <RifleEyes> i'm stuck on ubuntu =(
[09:23] <nilesh892003> hello how to play .dat media files in ubuntu ???????????????????\
[09:23] <jon_> even if i cant do anything on linux yet
[09:23] <kedarguru> hm
[09:23] <macgeek> when I SSHed to my Ubuntu box, it said that I have mail. How do I check that?
[09:23] <dmsantam> macgeek, mail
[09:24] <macgeek> didn't work
[09:24] <noiesmo> holycow, yes that might be but for a system to be used as a desktop by the bulk of the public they want mp3 they want video etc so its a given they need universe and multiverse until the big corporations pull there heads out of there ass and see that we must go on
[09:24] <smee56> can someone please help me
[09:24] <macgeek> dmsantam: -bash: mail: command not found
[09:24] <holycow> jon_, give it time, welcome.  feel free to explore all aspects, and all oses.  even the great evil
[09:24] <shawnr_> nevermind lol i got it
[09:24] <shawnr_> ;)
[09:24] <rredd4> ompaul  what i did not understand about flooding, when I was a newbie (a long, long time ago!) was that there were people with older computers and that it would crash them.
[09:24] <kedarguru> hahaha
[09:24] <RifleEyes> i have a very newbish question
[09:24] <dmsantam> macgeek, apt-get install mutt
[09:24] <dmsantam> macgeek, then run 'mutt'
[09:24] <macgeek> ok
[09:25] <holycow> noiesmo, thats a laudable goal.  however, like most newbs you miss a couple of details ... these are just points not arguments k? :0
[09:25] <holycow> :)
[09:25] <smee56> can some one tell me how to get my GUI working?????
[09:25] <silentread> RifleEyes, we were all nubs at some point, ask your question
[09:25] <noiesmo> holycow, ;)
[09:25] <holycow> 1. linux doesn't exist for any particula reason.  it's not here to 'gain marketshare'.  it exists for as many reasons as there are users.  thus the goal really isn't to get the 'masses'
[09:25] <ompaul> smee56, try this>>  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  <<
[09:25] <sethk> smee56, you'll need to ask a more specific question than that
[09:25] <dmsantam> macgeek, you could also apt-get install mailx to get the mail command im talking about. but mutt is really much better :)
[09:25] <RifleEyes> (this is my first night using linux of any kind) how do i get my resolution to 1280xthatothernumber
[09:25] <Sargun> I hated going to weddings. All the grandmas would poke me saying "You're next". They stopped that when I started doing it to them at funerals.
[09:25] <macgeek> dmsantam: ok thanks
[09:25] <dmsantam> macgeek, np :)
[09:25] <Bob535> yay rifle, i had the same problem
[09:26] <Bob535> !resolution
[09:26] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:26] <Sargun> having the same problem is not good..
[09:26] <Bob535> read what ubotu has to say
[09:26] <noiesmo> holycow, he ehe
[09:26] <Bob535> the first one worked for me
[09:26] <kedarguru> hurray ubotu!
[09:27] <ompaul> Sargun, that is rather offtopic
[09:27] <Sargun> lol
[09:27] <holycow> 2. and of course the legalities of and intriciacies of copyright and patents ... most people have barely enough time to vote, never mind learn about nuances of law ...
[09:27] <macgeek> dmsantam: hm, it seems to be hanging on this: "Removing unchanged obsolete conffiles ... "
[09:27] <holycow> noiesmo, a better strategy is to take the 'masses', chop up that group into smaller more defineable and understandeable groups and cater to them
[09:27] <RifleEyes> wow
[09:27] <RifleEyes> this is gonna take getting used to
[09:28] <Bob535> Yay for my skills tonight, I got my resolution correct and Azureus installed
[09:28] <noiesmo> holycow, ok ok I get it I was just saying a lot of ? asked here wouldnt be if universe and multiverse repos were enabled
[09:28] <smee56> ok i had my gui working but now it isnt. ido not know if i did somethiong wrong but..i have tried things like  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but i dont know how to set it up from there.
[09:28] <Bob535> tommorow, yum, so i can mount my data drive from my xp box
[09:28] <Tauhshi> Some more bad news . . .
[09:28] <rredd4> RifleEyes  if I can do it... so can you!!  Ubuntu is easy
[09:28] <holycow> noiesmo, *nod* no you are right :) just chattin
[09:28] <ompaul> smee56, what kind of video card have you got?
[09:28] <smee56> i dont know
[09:28] <Tauhshi> I think my CD Drive is faulty or something . . .
[09:28] <smee56> im new
[09:28] <macgeek> dmsantam: nevermind, it was just taking a long time
[09:29] <smee56> how do i tell?
[09:29] <ompaul> smee56, what were you trying to do when it disappeared?
[09:29] <noiesmo> holycow, thats kool man i'm getting drunk and i dont care lol
[09:29] <rredd4> RifleEyes  read read read!
[09:29] <holycow> noiesmo, lol! :) well welcome you drunkard!
[09:29] <holycow> *hic*
[09:29] <holycow> >_>
[09:29] <Tauhshi> Everytime I try and do somethin, it ends up screwing up . . .
[09:29] <noiesmo> holycow, I just watched a linus video on the kernel from youtube and I think richard stallman rocks
[09:29] <ompaul> !offtopic
[09:29] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:29] <noiesmo> noiesmo, ompaul ok sorry dude
[09:30] <smee56> it comes up to the splash screen but then my screen turns off. I then Try ctrl+alt+F1 and it gives me the command line
[09:30] <ompaul> np
[09:30] <holycow> noiesmo, my fav thing about rms is he lives what he preaches.  you don't get idealists very often following their own advice
[09:30] <ompaul> holycow, it is a religion with him :-)
[09:30] <smee56> i did try startx but it came up with a error
[09:30] <noiesmo> holycow, true true but i think ompaul is warning us about offtopic
[09:30] <noiesmo> ompaul, hey you no offtopic
[09:30] <holycow> :)
[09:30] <smee56> would you like me to paste the error
[09:31] <ompaul> smee56, if you can into paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:31] <smee56> ok ill try
[09:31] <Hoxzer> is there any tool that can show rss feed on desktop as desklet?
[09:31] <ompaul> smee56, here will get you removed from the channel
[09:31] <ompaul> smee56, was it ever working?
[09:32] <noiesmo> holycow, what dvd you watchin
[09:32] <holycow> dennis miller hbo special :)
[09:32] <noiesmo> holycow, kool :)
[09:32] <macgeek> I got the following 3 errors when I installed the latest updates on Ubuntu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19757
[09:32] <smee56> pasted as Smee56
[09:32] <Bob535> has anyone here got ntfs support working properly under ubuntu and if so what proggy do you use?
[09:32] <macgeek> is that anything important?
[09:33] <Tauhshi> 110 GB HDD, 10 for Windows, 9 for Ubuntu, 1 for Swap, and the rest as a FAT32 Share drive?
[09:33] <macgeek> oh, they stopped my installation of mutt
[09:33] <macgeek> it must be important :( how do I fix it?
[09:33] <ompaul> !ntfs > Bob535
[09:33] <Luke> is there a special edgy channel?
[09:33] <sethk> macgeek, not important
[09:33] <ompaul> Bob535, please check the message from the bot
[09:33] <macgeek> sethk: then how do I install mutt?
[09:33] <Flannel> Luke: #ubuntu+1
[09:33] <sethk> macgeek, I doubt you will worry about using TeX any time soon
[09:34] <Luke> Flannel: thanks
[09:34] <ompaul> Luke, see what flannel said and you thanked flannel for :)
[09:34] <djang0> Bob535, ntfs-3 anyway, read and write
[09:34] <Bob535> thanks ompaul
[09:34] <macgeek> sethk: oh heh :) well mutt works anyway I guess
[09:34] <djang0> Bob535, ntfs-3G
[09:35] <ompaul> Bob535, be aware that writing to it can fail and cause all sorts of boken stuff - it is not good on dapper
[09:35] <sethk> macgeek, it should
[09:35] <Bob535> icky
[09:35] <djang0> Bob535, and that is so true
[09:35] <djang0> Bob535, even if you write successfully to the ntfs partition, you can corrupt other data on there
[09:35] <djang0> Bob535, happened more than once to me
[09:35] <ompaul> smee56, use these three keys together    >>>        Ctrl Alt F7
[09:36] <RifleEyes> okay i am really not good at linux
[09:36] <macgeek> what do I do about this? "mandb: warning: /usr/share/man/man1/rmic.1.gz is a dangling symlink"
[09:36] <djang0> Bob535, so if it's 'mission critical' use a FAT32 partition as the "middle man" if you can
[09:36] <Bob535> I need to borrow an empty hd with equal or greater size so that I can copy my ntfs data drive into fat32 so i can access it by both
[09:36] <RifleEyes> that little bot thing told me to type that command in and i did and it took me to a black command screen i dont understand.
[09:36] <Tauhshi> Do all the ShipIt CD's come with Stickeres?
[09:36] <djang0> Bob535, yeah, pity you can't convert back like from FAT32 > NTFS, huh?
[09:37] <Tsukino> anyone here know acpi? more specifically, how to turn throttling on?
[09:37] <djang0> Bob535, anyway, short answer is i wouldn't trust NTFS-3G to write
[09:37] <keta> macgeek: you can remove it, because is a symbolic link that points to nothing
[09:38] <bbrazil> Bob535: linux can read ntfs
[09:38] <macgeek> keta: I just delete that file it showed?
[09:38] <linuxboy> why are there so many dapper updates ?
[09:38] <Bob535> I would need to get rid of a huge amount of useful files in order to properly move my whole data drive over to fat32
[09:38] <RifleEyes> okay, when a Howto tells me to run a command, it means type it into the terminal thingie, right?
[09:38] <Bob535> without using a second drive anyways
[09:39] <djang0> bbrazil, he knows, he's asking about read/write
[09:39] <keta> macgeek: yes, nextime mandb will run it won't show that warn
[09:39] <macgeek> keta: okay thanks
[09:39] <Flannel> RifleEyes: yep.
[09:39] <Bob535> oh hell ya, i just remembered my parents bought a usb drive... hehehe
[09:39] <nathanial> folks. I have a quick question. . . again
[09:39] <Bob535> go ahead nathanial
[09:39] <djang0> Bob535, well format that puppy FAT32
[09:39] <RifleEyes> flannel, i did that before and it took me to a plain black command screen thing, and by then i couldnt remember the command
[09:40] <djang0> :)
[09:40] <nathanial> my current computer is a Toshiba FROM JAPAN. meaning the DVD NTSC is Japanese.
[09:40] <nathanial> I installed ubuntu, and DVD's don't work. How can I change the NTSC with ubunut?
[09:40] <Bob535> ooh good question
[09:40] <Flannel> RifleEyes: you can either do ctrl-alt-f# and then log in again, or just start a terminal window.  Accessories > command prompt (or whatever it is on dapper)
[09:40] <nathanial> Bob535, I am to please
[09:41] <nathanial> :D
[09:41] <nathanial> aim
[09:41] <Bob535> I have no idea personally
[09:41] <keta> nathanial: do you have libdvdcss intsalled?
[09:41] <Bob535> but im sure someone must know
[09:41] <thundr> RifleEyes, accessories --> Terminal
[09:41] <nathanial> yes
[09:41] <RifleEyes> thats what i used
[09:41] <sethk> nathanial, NTSC is the television spec used in north america.  so your statement makes no sense.
[09:41] <RifleEyes> but i typed in the thing the bot told me to, and it took me to the black screen
[09:41] <nathanial> hm. :)
[09:41] <dmsantam> macgeek, yeah, just delete that file. its a link to nothing
[09:41] <Flannel> RifleEyes: what command?
[09:41] <thundr> nathanial, do you mean the region code?
[09:42] <RifleEyes> hm
[09:42] <RifleEyes> !resolution
[09:42] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:42] <RifleEyes> that one
[09:42] <nathanial> lets try again. YES! the region code
[09:42] <nathanial> thanks sir
[09:42] <keta> sethk: it's for japan too, I had a japanese playstation once
[09:42] <nathanial> How can I find what my current region code is?
[09:42] <RifleEyes> i am so lost.
[09:42] <rredd4> RifleEyes  you can copy the command by highlighting it, then go to the terminal and right click and select paste, then push the return key
[09:42] <Flannel> RifleEyes: you typed in gdm, right? (are you running ubuntu, kubuntu, or xubuntu?)
[09:42] <keta> sethk: i worked on ntsc
[09:42] <thundr> nathanial, nearly all drives allow you to change it a certain amount of times (e.g. 5) before it becomes permanent
[09:42] <RifleEyes> ubuntu
[09:42] <keta> i/it
[09:43] <Flannel> RifleEyes: then instead of ?dm make it gdm
[09:43] <nathanial> thundr, I've heard
[09:43] <RifleEyes> oh
[09:43] <RifleEyes> i see
[09:43] <nathanial> how would I be able to check/change??
[09:43] <RifleEyes> well i shall try that then.
[09:44] <rredd4> RifleEyes you can still copy paste the command
[09:44] <nathanial> oh great wise ones of ubuntu. :)
[09:44] <RifleEyes> i will
[09:44] <sethk> keta, his statement still makes no sense.  he wants to "change the ntsc".  that's meaningless
[09:44] <nathanial> sethk, i don't want to change the ntsc, but the region code, rather.
[09:45] <nathanial> thanks to thundr for the clarification
[09:45] <miza> how can i boot ubuntu without acpci
[09:45] <thundr> nathanial, I don't know how to do it in linux.  I'm sure there's a way (there's a way in linux for *everything*)
[09:45] <rredd4> miza  acpi=off
[09:45] <mathieu_> miza: you could type acpi=off at the command kernel boot time
[09:46] <keta> sethk: i fear more the statement that it could be changed some times before it gets fixed. :D
[09:46] <miza> kk
[09:46] <ubuntu> il y as kel qu un de francais?
[09:46] <mathieu_> ubuntu oui
[09:47] <Flannel> !fr
[09:47] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:47] <ubuntu> suis perdu sous inux
[09:47] <miza> mathieu_: where do i exatly type that during the boot
[09:47] <Tauhshi> Ok, I think it's just something wrong with the CD's, I found a fresh one with an Audio CD on it, so, I'm ripping the songs, then going to burn my iso to the disc
[09:47] <macgeek> does anyone here use XAMPP?
[09:48] <mathieu_> miza: it depends how your bootloader is setup
[09:48] <Flannel> macgeek: why use XAMPP when all the components are in the repositories?
[09:48] <mathieu_> miza: i type esc at boottime and I can change my boot parameters with grub
[09:48] <macgeek> Flannel: because it's easier :P
[09:48] <RifleEyes> sigh.
[09:48] <miza> i have just grub and when i click ubuntu it continues to the distro
[09:48] <miza> mathieu_: kk
[09:49] <Bob535> rifle
[09:49] <macgeek> Flannel: and it only takes one command to start Apache, MySQL, and ProFTPD
[09:49] <Bob535> did you get it?
[09:49] <RifleEyes> yes
[09:49] <RifleEyes> no
[09:49] <mathieu_> miza: is there a key that says press key for help at boot time ?
[09:49] <Bob535> okay, whats catching you up
[09:49] <mathieu_> miza: you could try esc
[09:49] <Flannel> macgeek: er, there's init.d for that.  And, copy/paste isn't exactly difficult to install either.
[09:49] <Bob535> if you know
[09:49] <nathanial> can anyone help me found what is my region code?
[09:49] <RifleEyes> i go to the terminal thing
[09:49] <nathanial> find
[09:49] <RifleEyes> i type in the command, now with gdm instead of ?dm
[09:49] <Tauhshi> Can I install KDE on Ubuntu?
[09:49] <RifleEyes> or whatever
[09:50] <mathieu_> Tauhshi: yes
[09:50] <noiesmo> Tauhshi, yes you can
[09:50] <macgeek> Flannel: copy/paste?
[09:50] <RifleEyes> and it asks for my password, i put it in, it takes me to a black and white command lookin screen and asks me to log in
[09:50] <Tauhshi> Ok, good
[09:50] <RifleEyes> and i do. and it say something about ubuntu or something
[09:50] <Flannel> Tauhshi: yep.  If you want kubuntu, kubuntu-desktop is the package, otherwise you'll need to install kde and some other components
[09:50] <RifleEyes> and i can type in commands but i dont know any commands.
[09:50] <Tauhshi> I can still keep my Ubuntu sticker and still have KDE
[09:50] <noiesmo> Tauhshi, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:50] <Flannel> macgeek: right, the wiki has what are essentually copy/paste install instructions
[09:51] <Bob535> Okay, did you try the first set of instructions without it working?
[09:51] <Bob535> the three line thing
[09:51] <macgeek> Flannel: oh okay, I'll take a look. And how do I use init.d?
[09:51] <Tauhshi> So, wait, that will turn it into Kubuntu though, right?
[09:51] <Bob535> it will pull up an installer, and it asks you a bunch of questions.. etc.
[09:51] <RifleEyes> !resolution
[09:51] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:51] <RifleEyes> what is X
[09:51] <rredd4> your gui
[09:51] <noiesmo> Tauhshi, at the login section go sessions then select gnome or kde
[09:51] <Flannel> macgeek: er, you actually don't need to.  When you install them from the repository, everything gets setup
[09:51] <rredd4> graphic user interface
[09:52] <Bob535> X is the stuff you can see that has graphics
[09:52] <rredd4> kinda like windoze
[09:52] <macgeek> Flannel: oh okay, thanks
[09:52] <Tauhshi> Noiesmo, I can choose either KDE or GNOME?
[09:52] <RifleEyes> so i should've followed the link instead of doing the command
[09:52] <Flannel> macgeek:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:52] <Bob535> yes
[09:52] <Bob535> :)
[09:52] <RifleEyes> =(
[09:52] <noiesmo> Tauhshi, yep
[09:52] <macgeek> Flannel: what about FTP?
[09:52] <Flannel> macgeek: you can also download the server ISO for ubuntu, which has a built-in LAMP option
[09:52] <mathieu_> Tauhshi: ydes
[09:53] <Flannel> macgeek: depends on which ftpd you want to use
[09:53] <Tauhshi> Ok, would it retain my files and everything?
[09:53] <macgeek> Flannel: what do you recommend?
[09:53] <RifleEyes> you know, windows does the same thing when i reinstall it
[09:53] <smee56> can any one tell me how to connect ubuntu onto a dialup?
[09:53] <RifleEyes> i have to get out my drivers cd or something and do it like that
[09:53] <Flannel> macgeek: no idea.
[09:53] <macgeek> hm
[09:54] <macgeek> what do you guys suggest for an ftpd?
[09:54] <bbrazil> macgeek: proftpd isn't bad
[09:54] <rredd4> RifleEyes go to the System menu, then to preferences menu, the to the screen resolution selection.. do you see the resolution that you want there?
[09:54] <RifleEyes> nope
[09:54] <rredd4> ok
[09:54] <rredd4> then
[09:55] <macgeek> bbrazil: that's what I was using before
[09:55] <Bob535> follow those first three steps in that link, part of one of the questions it asks is which resolutions you want
[09:55] <Bob535> make sure you select (hit space) over 1280x1024
[09:56] <bbrazil> macgeek|away: what was/is your problem with it?
[09:56] <Bob535> which is a little bit down the list
[09:56] <RifleEyes> okay
[09:56] <RifleEyes> wow, i am so new at this
[09:56] <Flannel> bbrazil: I think he wasn't on ubuntu before.
[09:57] <bbrazil> Flannel: unless you're trying to do something fancy that requires a recent version or specific libraries, that shouldn't make a difference
[09:57] <RifleEyes> wait
[09:57] <RifleEyes> how many different commands are on that little section
[09:57] <Hoxzer> Requesting a permission to ask something random that doesn't have anything to do with ubuntu
[09:58] <cwraig> yea go on
[09:58] <ajopaul> !pastebin > ajopaul
[09:58] <Flannel> bbrazil: Right.  He was using XAMPP before.  He should be fine installing proftpd I imagine
[09:58] <bbrazil> Hoxzer: #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:58] <Hoxzer> :(
[09:59] <Bob535> threre should be three lines
[09:59] <Bob535> just copy and paste one line at a time
[09:59] <Flannel> Hoxzer: no, seriously.  It's a real channel.  Go there and talk about whatever you want.
[09:59] <Bob535> into a terminal
[09:59] <RifleEyes> ah, it helps if i have my browser open all the way
[09:59] <RifleEyes> stupid 1024x786
[09:59] <Bob535> exactly why figuring out resolution was my first priority when i moved to ubuntu earlier today
[10:00] <wasauce> how do I setup the screen command in ubuntu? currently when i type it in screen at the bash shell i get screen: command not found
[10:00] <Flannel> wasauce: apt-get install screen
[10:00] <wasauce> really? thats it? thanks
[10:00] <bbrazil> wasauce: should be there by default. sudo aptitude install screen
[10:01] <RifleEyes> hm.
[10:01] <RifleEyes> okay i pasted the second line in
[10:01] <RifleEyes> and it said no such file or directory
[10:02] <nathanial> do linux distros really need any spy/addware????
[10:03] <Bob535> rifle, you make sure yo ugot all of it?
[10:03] <Bob535> including the end '
[10:03] <RifleEyes> yes im at the thingie now
[10:03] <noiesmo> nathanial, what ?
[10:03] <RifleEyes> config thing
[10:03] <Bob535> oh good
[10:03] <Bob535> perfect, if you dont know which option to choose at some point
[10:03] <Bob535> just leave it at whatever it says by default
[10:04] <Bob535> I will brb
[10:04] <nathanial> I heard that linux OS's doesn't need programs like SpyBot. Is this true??
[10:04] <noiesmo> nathanial, yes
[10:04] <nathanial> I should NEVER have to worry aboud adware/spyware?
[10:04] <noiesmo> nathanial, no you should n;'t
[10:04] <rredd4> thats cause no one likes windoze  lol
[10:05] <fuoco> is there a repository with google earth somewhere ?
[10:05] <nathanial> thanks
[10:05] <noiesmo> nathanial, i never do
[10:05] <nathanial> :)
[10:05] <nathanial> noiesmo. thanks
[10:05] <noiesmo> nathanial, go porn surf safly with gnulinux
[10:05] <Nookie^> can anyone tell me how to import photos from digitalcamera... i dont see any usb icon on desktop... and that program which popup when camera is pluged in can't detect my camera.. what should i do to see my images on my camera??
[10:06] <nathanial> SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:06] <nathanial> I can't wait!!
[10:06] <nathanial> asian porn, here I come!!!
[10:06] <noiesmo> Nookie^, use digikam you'll need to add your cam
[10:06] <bbrazil> nathanial: eh, no. There is *currently* no known sypware for ubuntu
[10:06] <noiesmo> nathanial, go man go
[10:06] <nathanial> bbrazil, thanks man
[10:06] <RifleEyes> i dont know what to enter for any of these questions =(
[10:06] <nathanial> noiesmo, you said gnulinux
[10:06] <nathanial> i'm not familiar. . .
[10:07] <Nookie^> noiesmo: thanx will try
[10:07] <bbrazil> nathanial: but the right firefox vunerability and you'll have problems
[10:07] <rredd4> RifleEyes push enter
[10:07] <RifleEyes> i am pushing enter
[10:07] <noiesmo> nathanial, yes its gnu/linux
[10:07] <nathanial> bbrazil, what doyou mean?
[10:07] <RifleEyes> i think im supposed to be entering stuff though
[10:07] <rredd4> no
[10:07] <RifleEyes> it keeps asking me questions and names and amounts
[10:07] <noiesmo> nathanial, linux is only the kernel not hte whole system
[10:07] <nathanial> noiesmo, meaning linux OS using gnu?
[10:07] <bbrazil> nathanial: using ubuntu doesn't make you immune
[10:08] <rredd4> RifleEyes you just want to get to the resolutions screen in reconfigure
[10:08] <fuoco> when i reload on synaptic i get: http://ubuntu.compiz.net/dists/dapper/Release: Unable to find expected entry  main/binary-powerpc/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?) what does it mean ?
[10:08] <noiesmo> bbrazil, hmm hows that me thinks that spywarre and malaware only for M$
[10:08] <RifleEyes> oh okay
[10:08] <RifleEyes> so i dont have to mess with anything
[10:08] <nathanial> bbrazil, what can I do to strengthen the safety of my computer?
[10:08] <nathanial> I notice SpyBot isn't offered for linux.
[10:08] <rredd4> right
[10:08] <noiesmo> nathanial, dont use it
[10:09] <bbrazil> noiesmo: then you are mistaken. UNIX has a better security model, not an impenetrable one
[10:09] <wulax> does someone know if i can make compiz use the win-key instead of alt when moving/resizing windows?
[10:09] <rredd4> RifleEyes let us know when you get to the resolution screen
[10:09] <nathanial> bbrazil, i've heard that as well.
[10:09] <RifleEyes> its a long way through, i see
[10:09] <RifleEyes> it says
[10:09] <nathanial> but there must be some type of 'spyware' or even a mcafee virus program???
[10:09] <RifleEyes> Attempt monitor autodetection?
[10:09] <noiesmo> nathanial, clamav
[10:09] <bbrazil> nathanial: there's a few anti-virus projects for linux
[10:10] <RifleEyes> i hit space on accident so i guess that doubles as enter.
[10:10] <nathanial> noiesmo, clamav can be installed from synaptic??
[10:10] <RifleEyes> yay resolution
[10:10] <noiesmo> nathanial, yes should be
[10:10] <nathanial> bbrazil, any ones that can be installed from synaptic?
[10:10] <nathanial> thanks guys. Ill check it out.
[10:10] <rredd4> RifleEyes  now tab down to the res that you want and use the space bar
[10:10] <rredd4> to accept ti
[10:10] <rredd4> it
[10:11] <RifleEyes> hm
[10:11] <RifleEyes> i hit enter
[10:11] <rredd4> then go to the end
[10:11] <noiesmo> bbrazil, i'm mistaken how, as far as I was aware there is no real threat to linux unless i'm silly enough to be root online
[10:11] <nathanial> noiesmo, is it known by another name? It doesn't show up in synaptic search.
[10:11] <rredd4> and after you are back into the terminal  hit the up arrow
[10:11] <bbrazil> noiesmo: no threat to the system, but they can get to all of your files
[10:11] <rredd4> and start over
[10:11] <threat> hello
[10:12] <RifleEyes> done
[10:12] <bbrazil> nathanial: the mcafee style on is still in development, and it's in kernel. clamav is for scaning files and mail usually
[10:12] <threat> bbrazil, noiesmo hehe, nick highlighting :)
[10:12] <nathanial> ok
[10:12] <nathanial> bbrazil, do you know the package name for clamav? the search shows nothing in synaptic.
[10:12] <noiesmo> bbrazil, hows that please
[10:12] <bbrazil> noiesmo: hmm, might be in universe
[10:13] <bbrazil> noiesmo: well if they take over your firefox, they have all the permission you do
[10:13] <bbrazil> nathanial: ^*2
[10:13] <Nookie^> noiesmo: my camera could not be detected there eighter...BAH!
[10:13] <Bob535> rifle, did you get it working
[10:13] <noiesmo> Nookie^, what cam you got
[10:13] <WillyMF1> Hi. My ubuntu CD comes back with an error on all three of the options I choose for repartioing... is there a freeware repartioiner i can use to crate the space in windows so I can install?
[10:13] <Selig5>  http://www.clamav.net/stable.php
[10:14] <nathanial> bbrazil, this doesn't make sense to me. I'm sorry.
[10:14] <Nookie^> noiesmo: i've got Kodak Eazyshare Z700
[10:14] <bbrazil> !repos
[10:14] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:14] <rredd4> RifleEyes use the down arrow until you get to the res you want then the space bar to select it
[10:14] <noiesmo> Nookie^, ok add it as a ptp type cam I have a kodak to but not the same model but kodak is ptp type
[10:15] <Nookie^> ohh,.,. lets try
[10:15] <Bob535> rifle, also if the down arrows dont work
[10:15] <Bob535> turn off your number key and use the number pad
[10:15] <noiesmo> Nookie^, usb ptp tpe please
[10:15] <Bob535> my arrow keys just take screenshots :(
[10:16] <Nookie^> noiesmo: hehehe i will =)
[10:16] <bbrazil> nathanial: you have to enable the universe repositries
[10:16] <noiesmo> bbrazil, you never answered my ?
[10:16] <noiesmo> bbrazil, how will firefox in linux be comprimised
[10:17] <bbrazil> noiesmo: vunerabilities
[10:17] <bbrazil> noiesmo: there usually a few a week
[10:17] <bbrazil> noiesmo: *month
[10:17] <wulax> does someone know if i can make compiz use the win-key instead of alt when moving/resizing windows?
[10:18] <thinh> anyone knows how to access openoffice clipart, i used automatix to downloade the clipart?
[10:18] <noiesmo> wulax, you can set it thru gconf-editor
[10:18] <WillyMF1> If I repartiton in windows and leave some space free, will that help me with the ubuntu installation? The built in repartitioner doesn't seem to be working for me.
[10:18] <wulax> noiesmo: ok, i'll search for it there. thanks
[10:18] <nathanial> bbrazil, is this the universe APT repository?
[10:18] <bbrazil> WillyMF1: hmm, how many partitions do you currently have?
[10:19] <bbrazil> nathanial: yes
[10:19] <WillyMF1> bbrazil: I only have the primary windows
[10:19] <nathanial> bbrazil, afterwords, what are the following steps. BTW, this will not effect my current system?
[10:19] <rredd4> Bob535  looks like RifleEyes left....
[10:19] <Nookie^> noiesmo: did not work this time eighter... why couldn't they just make a simple Usb icon on the desktop... that would make life so muuuuuch easier
[10:20] <bbrazil> nathanial: install clamav via synaptic. shouldn;t affect anything
[10:20] <bbrazil> WillyMF1: yeah, that should work then
[10:20] <noiesmo> Nookie^, because kodak didnt make there cams usb they mad them ptp
[10:20] <nathanial> bbrazil, this universe, etc seems similar to automatix, am I wrong?
[10:20] <bbrazil> nathanial: no, universe is "official"
[10:20] <WillyMF1> bbrazil: do you have a recommendation for a repartioner since the built in one isn't working?
[10:20] <bbrazil> nathanial: but not supported by canonical
[10:21] <nathanial> bbrazil: official=safer
[10:21] <noiesmo> s/mad/maed
[10:21] <nathanial> ?
[10:21] <noiesmo> s/mad/made
[10:21] <bbrazil> WillyMF1: afraid not, I can only suggest the partition that comes with 2k3server
[10:21] <bbrazil> noiesmo: you're pretty safe with universe
[10:21] <noiesmo> nathanial, enable both universe and multiverse automatrix suxs from whats discuessed here
[10:22] <noiesmo> bbrazil, ok
[10:22] <rredd4> WillyMF1  partition magic.... in windows...
[10:23] <Bob535> grrrr
[10:23] <Bob535> stupid thing
[10:23] <Bob535> hello rifle
[10:23] <RifleEyes> sigh
[10:23] <Bob535> no luck/
[10:23] <RifleEyes> i am not running off of the live cd
[10:23] <rredd4> RifleEyes  wb
[10:23] <RifleEyes> thanks
[10:24] <RifleEyes> i went through the whole config thing again
[10:24] <rredd4> RifleEyes  and
[10:24] <nathanial> bbrazil; the terminal output says that universe is completely UNSUPPORTED by ubuntu teams. . .
[10:24] <RifleEyes> and i got to the part that said automatically detect monitor, and last time i hit space on accident, so this time i hit enter
[10:24] <nathanial> bbrazil, is this riskY/
[10:24] <RifleEyes> and it went to that black commandish screen
[10:24] <RifleEyes> and some problems
[10:24] <RifleEyes> something about GUD or something not being configured right
[10:24] <RifleEyes> and to restart once its configured right
[10:24] <bbrazil> nathanial: no, universe is safe. There's a lot of people behind it
[10:25] <RifleEyes> so i restarted and the same thing happened
[10:25] <yacek19> hello
[10:25] <noiesmo> nathanial, dude its ok the universe and multiverse repos have all the non free stuff like mp3 supoort and video its all good
[10:25] <Bob535> I am trying to copy files into the etc directory from a directory called etc. but it keeps saying its omitting the folders i am trying to copy
[10:25] <yacek19> anyone here tried splashy??
[10:25] <bbrazil> noiesmo: only multiverse has non-free stuff
[10:25] <rredd4> RifleEyes  can you paste the errror in pastebin  so someone can help you
[10:25] <noiesmo> bbrazil, ok sorry ;)
[10:25] <nathanial> sweet.
[10:26] <RifleEyes> i have no idea how to do that
[10:26] <bbrazil> nathanial: multiverse is actually a bit risky, but if you need multimedia you'll have to use it
[10:26] <Toma-> I need some help with getting my 7 button mouse working. Ive got Buttons "7" and ZAxisMapping "6 7" in my xorg.conf and it even comes up in xev, but cant map them in game.
[10:26] <nathanial> bbrazil, because I used automatix, i have all my multimedia covered.
[10:26] <nathanial> I suppose I'm just looking for antivirus software
[10:26] <RifleEyes> i think i am done with ubuntu for a long while
[10:27] <holycow> !automatix
[10:27] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[10:27] <Bob535> Sad to hear that rifle
[10:27] <bbrazil> nathanial: eek. automatix is a lot lot riskier than universe
[10:27] <holycow> nathanial, please read that
[10:27] <RifleEyes> i guess
[10:27] <Madpilot> nathanial, you don't need antivirus software; there really aren't any Linux viruses
[10:27] <holycow> nathanial, you should never run automatix
[10:27] <RifleEyes> its already erased my hd
[10:27] <holycow> and there is NO antivirus software for linux, this isn't windows
[10:27] <nathanial> ok.
[10:27] <noiesmo> nathanial, see I told you automatrix was bad
[10:27] <bbrazil> holycow: eh, there is antivirus software fo linux
[10:27] <holycow> no one has ever seen one in the wild
[10:27] <nathanial> haha
[10:27] <LazyBee> anyone know how to set monitor refresh rate from xorg.conf
[10:27] <ke> Haha
[10:27] <nathanial> now that I've used it, is it going to consistently update?
[10:28] <holycow> bbrazil, no there arent, there are antivirii software that check for WINDOWS virus
[10:28] <nathanial> I can discontinue further updates, yes?
[10:28] <holycow> >_>
[10:28] <noiesmo> bbrazil, its to stop you passing virus to M$ not linux getting one
[10:28] <bbrazil> there are linux viruses, they just tend not to get very far
[10:28] <noiesmo> bbrazil, don't go there man
[10:28] <rredd4> RifleEyes  you know anyone locally that uses ubuntu?
[10:28] <RifleEyes> nope
[10:29] <RifleEyes> small town, im sure pretty much everyone uses windows or mac
[10:29] <Toma-> I need some help with getting my 7 button mouse working. Ive got Buttons "7" and ZAxisMapping "6 7" in my xorg.conf and it even comes up in xev, but cant map them in game. (Ps. its plugged in via PS/2, so evdev wont work)
[10:29] <RifleEyes> i doubt there are many mac people at all
[10:29] <nathanial> how do I save a list in a terminal window?
[10:29] <nathanial> ctrl. . something?
[10:29] <Bob535> Is there any way to give this stupid file browser root access so I can copy stuff into my actual file system?
[10:30] <holycow> sudo nautilus
[10:30] <WillyMF1> bbrazil: did you mention something like NT partitioner? cause I'm getting partition magic so I can install ubuntu but its going to take a while.
[10:30] <Bob535> tx
[10:30] <Dravas> NOTE: Please ask your administrator to remove the xpti.dat from the
[10:30] <Dravas>       components directory of the Mozilla or Netscape browser.
[10:30] <Dravas>   < Where is the xpti.dat?
[10:30] <rredd4> Bob535  can you help RifleEyes?
[10:30] <noiesmo> not sudo use gksu or gksudo
[10:30] <nathanial> bbrazil, saving in a terminal is what key combination??
[10:30] <holycow> WillyMF1, ubuntu has a repartitioner ... but maybe you aren't comfy enough with it
[10:30] <holycow> WillyMF1, of course, whatever you use, make sure to backup
[10:30] <bbrazil> WillyMF1: I was mentioning the disk management tool that comes with 2k3, as I know that does resizing
[10:31] <yacek19> I have problem with the newest splashutils...
[10:31] <WillyMF1> holycow... I've tired 3/4 options... all bure reformat all and its not working out
[10:31] <holycow> ubuntu live cd has gparted
[10:31] <bbrazil> nathanial: which editor?
[10:31] <Madpilot> Bob535, just be damn careful with 'sudo nautilus', you can do all sorts of damage very quickly...
[10:31] <holycow> kanotix has qtparted
[10:31] <yacek19> during boot I can see: rm: cannot remove '/lib/splash/cache/survey': Read-only filesystem
[10:31] <nathanial> bbrazil, it just says terminal
[10:31] <holycow> all live cd's have parted which you can use from command line
[10:31] <holycow> etc.
[10:31] <nathanial> default?
[10:31] <WillyMF1> er all but
[10:31] <noiesmo> Madpilot, should it not be gksudo
[10:31] <holycow> WillyMF1, *nod* just throwin it out there
[10:31] <Madpilot> noiesmo, yes, it should, I'm being lazy :)
[10:31] <bbrazil> nathanial: I don't know that the default editor is
[10:32] <WillyMF1> holy: I have some stuff I cant just get rid of
[10:32] <noiesmo> NEVER use sudo to start graphical programs. You should always use gksudo or kdesu to run such programs, otherwise new login attempts may fail.
[10:32] <Dravas> Where is the xpti.dat for Mozilla Firefox?
[10:32] <Dravas> I need to install Flashplayer
[10:32] <FurryNemesis> hi all - is there an ubuntu general chat channel besides #ubuntu-offtopic?
[10:32] <nathanial> bbrazil, it seems not to be in an 'editor', but rather the same terminal window I cd with
[10:32] <bbrazil> nathanial: then there's no need to save
[10:32] <rredd4> RifleEyes  do you have any idea what the error was?
[10:32] <nathanial> ok thanks
[10:32] <noiesmo> Madpilot, please dont be lazy when it comes to graphic sudo etc
[10:33] <RifleEyes> i should've taken a picture, hah
[10:33] <noiesmo> Madpilot, :)
[10:33] <Madpilot> noiesmo, I know, I shouldn't be
[10:33] <RifleEyes> something about GUD or GDM or G something not being configured right
[10:33] <RifleEyes> or something.
[10:33] <Madpilot> FurryNemesis, -offtopic is it, pretty much
[10:33] <Dravas> Where is the xpti.dat for Mozilla Firefox? I need to delete it to install Flash Player/
[10:34] <noiesmo> Madpilot, ;)
[10:34] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Dravas about flash
[10:34] <rredd4> RifleEyes  go back into terminal and do the reconfigure again
[10:34] <RifleEyes> im on the live cd though?
[10:34] <YoussefAssad> what's a good web based mp3 player?
[10:34] <rredd4> ohh
[10:34] <RifleEyes> yes, i couldnt get back to the login screen
[10:34] <RifleEyes> cause of that error
[10:35] <rredd4> yuck
[10:35] <RifleEyes> yeah
[10:35] <topyli> YoussefAssad: there is none. maybe you mean you want something to listen to online music on your machine?
[10:35] <RifleEyes> thank you all for helping
[10:35] <noiesmo> YoussefAssad, for mp3 I use xmms or amarok
[10:35] <RifleEyes> if i try ubuntu again, i know where to go for help
[10:36] <rredd4> RifleEyes read wiki for ubuntu before installation
[10:36] <topyli> YoussefAssad: what exactly do you want to do?
[10:37] <RifleEyes> nah, im gonna give it a rest until i have another computer or something
[10:37] <YoussefAssad> topyli: no, actually I want a web based playlist system, whereby I access the playlist through the browser, i.e. Machine A is serving the web based system and is also doing the playing, Machine B is simply using the web based system to manage the playlist
[10:37] <RifleEyes> g'night all
[10:37] <rredd4> night
[10:37] <topyli> YoussefAssad: ahh
[10:37] <YoussefAssad> yep
[10:37] <topyli> you want to stream
[10:37] <yacek19> I have problem with the newest splashutils, during boot I can see: rm: cannot remove '/lib/splash/cache/survey': Read-only filesystem
[10:37] <YoussefAssad> Erm, no.
[10:37] <YoussefAssad> :)
[10:37] <topyli> :)
[10:38] <YoussefAssad> There's no streaming going on. A is doing the playing, B is just using the web based system to control what's being played. Little like a jukebox
[10:38] <RunUO22748> Whats the easied way to get create an back-up server for automatic-backup of 5 windows boxes??
[10:38] <noiesmo> YoussefAssad, I use netjuke and xmms can handle playlists
[10:38] <YoussefAssad> noiesmo: Hmm. I'll look at that. Thanks friend!
[10:38] <noiesmo> YoussefAssad, np :)
[10:39] <topyli> YoussefAssad: that sounds like a job for MPD and some web interface for it: http://www.musicpd.org/
[10:39] <YoussefAssad> topyli: and I'll look at that too. Thanks!
[10:39] <Dravas> Madpilot how does that help me
[10:39] <Madpilot> Dravas, how does what help you/.
[10:40] <Madpilot> ?
[10:40] <Dravas> I just need to delete xpti.dat from the components directory
[10:40] <Dravas> Thats what the installer says
[10:40] <Dravas> Remove the xpti.dat file to install Flash Player
[10:40] <Madpilot> Dravas, I've never heard of xpti.dat - follow the URL I gave you, it's got the easiest way of getting Flash running...
[10:41] <Dravas> ok
[10:41] <RunUO22748> Whats the easied way to get create an back-up server for automatic-backup of 5 windows boxes??
[10:41] <WillyMF1> holycow: can I use the partition resizing 2k3 progie that you mentioned? I'm using XP.
[10:41] <workhurtsme> hey everyone
[10:42] <bbrazil> WillyMF1: no, you can only use that if you're on 2k3
[10:42] <WillyMF1> ok
[10:43] <yacek19> I have problem with the newest splashutils, during boot I can see: rm: cannot remove '/lib/splash/cache/survey': Read-only filesystem
[10:43] <workhurtsme> i was wondering if there were any good music creation software for Ubuntu? like garage-band for the mac...?
[10:43] <thundr> workhurtsme, Yes, there is.
[10:44] <thundr> workhurtsme, I don't know if I've used all of it, and I don't know if it's as polished as garage-band, but it does exist.
[10:44] <workhurtsme> thats good with me
[10:44] <workhurtsme> i ditched an old windows machine
[10:44] <workhurtsme> and today is day one with linux
[10:44] <workhurtsme> i am using xubuntu
[10:44] <workhurtsme> so now, i have to find some music making software for this baby
[10:45] <frogzoo> !enter
[10:45] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[10:45] <frogzoo> workhurtsme: amarok - get 1.4.1 if you can
[10:45] <frogzoo> !amarok
[10:45] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.1 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php
[10:46] <stefg> workhurtsme: welcome to the club :-). But please don't use enter as punctuation... this wastes Line space :-)
[10:46] <workhurtsme> sorry bout that.
[10:46] <thundr> workhurtsme, you can try looking in the applications --> add/remove... menu
[10:46] <gatekeeper>  !seveas
[10:46] <RunUO22748> Can some one help me create a backup server?
[10:47] <stefg> workhurtsme: are you looking for a music player, or more something like a virtual studio environment?
[10:47] <gatekeeper> !seveas
[10:47] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:47] <frogzoo> RunUO22748: apt-cache search backup
[10:47] <RunUO22748> Frogzoo iam on windows box ..
[10:48] <frogzoo> sheesh...
[10:48] <RunUO22748> but i want to turn my LAMP server into a backup server.. :P
[10:48] <workhurtsme> virtual studio environment. i was using fl studio on windows if you are familiar
[10:48] <RunUO22748> laptop doesnt wanne do linux well :(
[10:49] <FuriousRage> anybody know a program for windows that can read/write ext3 partitions and mount it as a seperate folder or drive? i got thie Explore2fs, but its a seperate program to do it
[10:50] <workhurtsme> does anyone know of a virtual studio environment for music creation on ubuntu?
[10:50] <stefg> workhurtsme: i'll drop some names, so you can google for that:  audacity, muse, ardour, rosegarden
[10:50] <workhurtsme> oh okay
[10:51] <workhurtsme> thank you very much for the leads. i will check them out. :)
[10:51] <thundr> workhurtsme, there's also quite a list of sound/video applications in the applications menu under add/remove
[10:51] <stefg> workhurtsme: what hardware do you run?
[10:52] <workhurtsme> well, nothing special...just 3500 64 amd, regular sound card.
[10:52] <frogzoo> FuriousRage: what u need: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd
[10:52] <workhurtsme> 512 ram....i just like to record simple songs and stuff with my guitar and do vocals
[10:52] <stefg> Ok, so tahts something capable for multitrack digital audio
[10:53] <thundr> stefg, can't audacity do that in a basic form?
is there anything opensource or free that is available...? (probably not)
[10:53] <thundr> workhurtsme, most everything in ubuntu is free/opensource
[10:53] <pecisk> stefg: Ardour, MUsE, Jokosher (still coming)
[10:54] <stefg> yep, audacity is the simple solution, ardour, the professional one.  and workhurtsme, ALL of them are free
[10:54] <FuriousRage> frogzoo: oki thanks, i hope it does what i wish, testing atm ;>
[10:54] <pecisk> Ardour is most matured, but requires a litle tweaking of system because of JACK
[10:54] <FuriousRage> frogzoo: altho "enable force write ext3" sounds scary ;>
[10:54] <noiesmo> any netjuke users here
[10:55] <stefg> ACK's Jokosher... which was the talk of the night at yesterdays user meeting here.. but it's not ready yet
[10:55] <thundr> pecisk, what's the advantage of JACK?  I've seen a lot about it but all it does on my system is bog it down.
[10:55] <Generic> how do i check for unmounted partitions?
[10:56] <pecisk> thundr: advantage is true lack of latency
[10:56] <pecisk> thundr: you can handle multiple recordings at once
[10:56] <workhurtsme> awesome. well thank you very much. i am going to do some research
[10:56] <pecisk> thundr: important for multichannel cards
[10:56] <janga> Generic: sudu fdisk -l
[10:56] <thundr> pecisk, oh, latency is all I get when I use it.  I guess my system isn't good enough/configured right for it.
[10:56] <janga> sudo
[10:56] <pecisk> thundr: yep, it requires a lot of tweakage, and good sound card
[10:57] <pecisk> but when it is so, it works and it is worth that hassle
[10:57] <frogzoo> Generic: sudo fdisk -l /dev/hd# will show all partitions - mounted or not
[10:57] <thundr> pecisk, so your standard run-of-the-mill audigy isn't good enough?
[10:58] <pecisk> thundr: if you get xruns (and therefore latency), lot of things could be wrong, Audigy should be fine, I think
[10:58] <pecisk> important is hard disk speed
[10:58] <pecisk> is there memory disk, etc.
[10:59] <stefg> so a soft raid0 wouldn't hurt
[10:59] <FuriousRage> frogzoo: heh, thanks, it worked so far, but funny it mounts the ext3 as dvd/cd ;>
[10:59] <pecisk> it is a little bit of nuclear science, but it is worth that
[10:59] <Generic> heh
[10:59] <thundr> pecisk, and ram?  I've only got 256 on a p4 2.24 ghz.   Sounds complex.
[10:59] <Generic> I'm backing up my home folder from my 32-bit install
[10:59] <pecisk> thundr: get 512 and then it is worth a try, however 256 MB could cut a mustard too
[10:59] <pecisk> thundr: IDE hard disks?
[10:59] <Generic> I mounted the wrong partition by accident, so I ended up doing a backup onto itself, so now the disk is full
[11:00] <Generic> and it still shows 100% usage even though i deleted the backup
[11:00] <pecisk> thundr: I think you should ask ubuntu-studio guys about such questions
[11:00] <Generic> well, the failed backup :p
[11:00] <thundr> pecisk, yes, IDE.  And I've (unfortunately) got Rambus so price is an issue w/upgrading too.
[11:01] <pecisk> thundr: I run JACK/Ardour combo on Gentoo without big problems. However, I have Athlon XP 2200+, 512 MB, 120 SATA and EWS88MT eight channel sound card
[11:01] <pecisk> thundr: I see
[11:01] <pecisk> thundr: but
[11:01] <pecisk> thundr: as I said, it is only necessary if you want to record something on multiple channels
[11:02] <pecisk> for simple layered recording you should try muSe or how it was called now :)
[11:02] <pecisk> it is KDE thingy but it works, as far as I heard
[11:03] <pecisk> and for simple recording you can try Jokosher, however, it is not usable under Dapper
[11:03] <sioux> hey people what's this story... I get this error W: GPG error: http://www.beerorkid.com dapper Release:
[11:03] <YoussefAssad> heh
[11:03] <sioux> seems that the pubblic key is not available
[11:03] <pecisk> noiesmo: /etc/mysql/debian.cnf
[11:03] <sioux> NO_PUBKEY 31A5F97FED8A569E
[11:03] <thundr> pecisk, thanks.  I'll check it out when I have some time & money.  It sounds interesting.
[11:03] <lhds> hello please i need assistance : to install a hardware, it is asked to go to  cd /usr/src/linux # make menuconfig in my hdd i have linux-headers-2.6.15-26  installed ... but when i make menuconfig i get a bunch of errors  warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function exit what to do
[11:04] <pecisk> thundr: good luck :)
[11:04] <Tsukino> anyone here know acpi? more specifically, how to turn throttling on?
[11:04] <mc_________> is there something like digiKam for gnome?
[11:04] <sioux> people what's happening with pubkey in beerokid
[11:04] <stefg> lhds: so are you trying to build a new kernel?
[11:04] <pecisk> lhds: install libncurses5-dev, I think
[11:05] <lhds> strefg i need to install a video tv saa7133 ....
[11:05] <topyli> mc_________: f-spot
[11:05] <pecisk> lhds: make menuconfig uses ncurses to display dialogs and all that stuff
[11:05] <noiesmo> pecisk, no I lost it replaced it now a web apps broken because I didnt reset it to original and the app's encrypt password in config so now I have to reinstall app
[11:05] <lhds> i went through this before i format it worked but not now !
[11:05] <topyli> mc_________: i guess it's somewhat similar (never used digikam)
[11:05] <mc_________> topyli, is it good?
[11:05] <Dravas> How to install plugins for Banshee
[11:05] <topyli> mc_________: it's way good :)
[11:05] <mc_________> topyli, thank you,ill try it out
[11:06] <topyli> mc_________: hope you like it, cheers
[11:06] <pecisk> noiesmo: in configure file I mentioned, it is debian system user for Mysql with root permisions, you can use it to reset any password inside database, just use proper client
[11:06] <sioux> how can i import key from a repo
[11:06] <lhds> pecisk thanx i am installing this and hoping itll work
[11:06] <stefg> lhds: this shouldn't require a complete kernel rebuild... what kind of instructions are you following ATM?
[11:07] <lhds> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_saa7134
[11:07] <lhds> i am shhure that this folder linux headers is missing directories
[11:07] <lhds> i had them before i format
[11:08] <pecisk> lhds: what it is? special video card? or webcam?
[11:08] <sioux> :-)
[11:08] <noiesmo> pecisk, I got netjuke installed it puts root password somewhere and no since I changed it it cant access the mysql database I can access the mysql database
[11:08] <lhds> tv card
[11:08] <pecisk> noiesmo: tried /etc/netjuke?
[11:08] <sioux> How can explain me how I can import pubkey from http://www.beerorkid.com
[11:09] <sioux> sorry who
[11:09] <stefg> lhds: so for a start have you done sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r` ?
[11:09] <Dimitrije> How to recover xorg.conf, i installed nvidia drivers and run sudo nvidia-glx-config enable and my X failed now, cant run it.
[11:09] <Madpilot> sioux, is that for automatix?
[11:10] <sioux> mad no is for compiz
[11:10] <pecisk> lhds: I think it should work out of box, however I suggest to read this UbuntuForums thread, there is lot of information about this card under Ubuntu
[11:10] <pecisk> lhds: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=195686
[11:11] <lhds> pecisk i had it working under ubuntu
[11:11] <pecisk> lhds: ohhh I see
[11:11] <sioux> when I do apt-get update I get an pubkey missing error from http://www.beerorkid.com How can I solve this problem
[11:11] <stefg> lhds: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/44191
[11:12] <pecisk> sioux: it is very possible that it doesn't have public key
[11:12] <lhds> but its that the linux headers are missing ] 
[11:12] <pecisk> sioux: not every repository has
[11:12] <Dravas> Where are the Plugins directory for Banshee
[11:12] <Dravas> I wanna install iTunes Music Store support
[11:12] <sioux> ok but this means that I can use this repo or not
[11:13] <stefg> lhds: so what do you get when giving sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` ?
[11:13] <jvaughn> is there an official guide to getting xgl+compiz to work on wiki.ubuntu.com or anywhere?
[11:13] <Dimitrije> Help me.
[11:13] <stefg> !xgl
[11:13] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:14] <Dimitrije> !nvidia
[11:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:14] <acojlo> will synaptics use just updates from official repos for packages from there or it updates for the packages will be provided from universe, multiverse?
[11:14] <jvaughn> ah great thanks
[11:14] <Madpilot> acojlo, if you've got Universe & Multiverse enabled, Synaptic will get updates from there as they're available
[11:15] <topyli> !repos
[11:15] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:15] <topyli> acojlo: ^
[11:16] <Ayabara> I have an inspiron 6000 with an ati radeon card. should tv-out work like a dream in ubuntu for me?
[11:17] <jvaughn> hrm... would anyone know why in /var/log/Xorg.0.log it says "direct rendering: Enabled" and it shows that it loaded the dri module fine but when i run glxinfo it says direct rendering: No.   I have Mode 0666 set for DRI in my xorg.conf.  Any other ideas?
[11:17] <Ayabara> think I read something once about this not working, but that is a while ago
[11:18] <sioux> sorry people... If I install software from http://www.beerorkid.com synaptic warring me that install software from not signed repo malicius code could damange my system, now beerokid is a safe repo?
[11:18] <lhds> pecisk  i had this message when make No rule to make target `init/main.o', needed by `init/built-in.o'.  Stop.
[11:19] <sioux> http://www.beerorkid.com is shown as repo for xgl and compiz
[11:19] <smacky_wolf> !tvtuner
[11:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about tvtuner - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:19] <sioux> Is it safe?
[11:19] <lhds> nah its working fine thanx man
[11:20] <jvaughn> !i915
[11:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about i915 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:20] <jvaughn> !dri
[11:20] <ubotu> dri is direct rendering infrastructure, a framework for allowing direct access to graphics hardware under the X Window System in a safe and efficient manner.
[11:20] <Dodzey> sioux: i use that repo it is safe
[11:20] <lhds> anyone has ati radeon xpress 200?
[11:20] <sioux> dodzey but you too get pubkey errors
[11:20] <Dodzey> sioux: you can get the key for the repo, i forgot the url though, check compiz.net
[11:21] <sioux> dod ok i go to check
[11:21] <mc_________> topyli, f-spot is great,thank you!
[11:22] <topyli> mc_________: good to hear it works for you. cheers
[11:22] <debrisss> hi everyone
[11:22] <debrisss> first day with ubuntu, LOVE it....
[11:22] <debrisss> but
[11:22] <debrisss> i hate azureus
[11:22] <BobSongs> debrisss: Yeah? Why?
[11:22] <debrisss> the notification windoze won't go away....
[11:22] <Dodzey> sioux : here, try this.... get http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/quinn.key.asc -O - | sudo apt-key add -
[11:23] <debrisss> you know, the popup notification thingies? they just don't leave
[11:23] <mc_________> !azureus
[11:23] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[11:23] <BobSongs> debrisss: Run Azureus as root and install any updates it requires.
[11:23] <mc_________> debrisss, Opera has a great bittorrent client integrated
[11:23] <debrisss> i installed it from synaptic - isn't that good enough?
[11:23] <debrisss> sudo azureus??
[11:24] <Dravas> How do I install plugins for Banshee and what is this svn co svn://abock.org/trunk/banshee-itunes-plugin
[11:24] <BobSongs> debrisss: You've got it.
[11:24] <Dodzey> BobSongs: hey, did you get everything sorted?
[11:24] <debrisss> ok - i'll give it a try BobSongs
[11:24] <debrisss> brb
[11:24] <mc_________> !banshee
[11:24] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[11:25] <topyli> mc_________: inspired to try all of mono goodness? :)
[11:25] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Hey dude! Don't you ever sleep? lol
[11:25] <lhds>  when  #make modules modules_install it gives : No rule to make target `init/main.o', needed by `init/built-in.o'.  Stop. why?
[11:25] <Dodzey> BobSongs: haha, yeah, its 10:25 here, I aint been up long...
[11:25] <ryan_naruto> did anyone had succes running nero 7 using wine
[11:25] <mc_________> topyli, well f-spot is great but i still dislike mono itself ;)
[11:25] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Good to hear from you again. The re-install went well. I keep my /home folder apart so just about everything is the same when I log in the first time. And? Sound works perfectly now. Go figure.
[11:26] <mc_________> topyli, or i dislike .NET
[11:26] <Gonzo> any suggestions for a DVD burning program?
[11:26] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Ahh. I'm in Canada. Montreal. So it's ... 5:26 AM here.
[11:26] <topyli> mc_________: resistance is futile :)
[11:26] <BobSongs> I'm up a bit early.
[11:26] <Dimitrije> Gonzo, NEROLinux.
[11:26] <Gonzo> righto
[11:26] <Gonzo> thx
[11:26] <noiesmo> pecisk, there we go netjukes happen again but it yes encryption on mysql password so had to reinstall but its all goog 2531 Tracks  	355 Artists  	163:30:35
[11:26] <Dodzey> BobSongs: ahh...yeah...I'm in the UK
[11:27] <debrisss> BobSongs: this is weird - now i'm getting the popup notification window, but the main azureus window isn't loading at all as root....
[11:27] <noiesmo> y/yes/uses
[11:27] <ryan_naruto> i would like to run nero 7 in my linux machine so i could just drag and avi and it will make it to a vcd
[11:27] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Yeah; I figured... either that, or Spain.
[11:27] <topyli> mc_________: think about it: much of the neatest new gnome stuff is mono: tomboy, banshee, beagle, f-spot, muine...
[11:27] <ryan_naruto> k3d is a nice burning application
[11:27] <BobSongs> Dodzey: It's your accent that gave it away.
[11:27] <nekostar> OMG
[11:27] <BobSongs> ;)
[11:27] <nekostar> DAPPER != AUTO XCHAT
[11:27] <nekostar> ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG
[11:27] <nekostar> ~_~
[11:27] <topyli> mc_________: being related to microsoft doesn't necessarily kill a piece of free software :)
[11:27] <nekostar> at least its got irssi
[11:27] <nekostar> sigh
[11:27] <Madpilot> nekostar, quit it
[11:27] <nekostar> sup
[11:28] <mc_________> topyli, i have no problem with programs written in mono,i just do not want to code mono
[11:28] <Dodzey> Dodzey: heh... :-)...
[11:28] <Dodzey> oops
[11:28] <topyli> mc_________: ahhh
[11:28] <nekostar> !tell Madpilot about enter
[11:28] <BobSongs> debrisss: That's odd.
[11:28] <Madpilot> nekostar, and yes, XChat isn't in Dapper by default, which sucketh mightily...
[11:28] <Dodzey> BobSongs: i can't even copy and paste a name correctly...jesus....brb
[11:28] <afflux> tschss...
[11:28] <nekostar> Madpilot:
[11:28] <nekostar> that deserves mad spambot attacks
[11:28] <nekostar> ~_~
[11:28] <BobSongs> debrisss: Stop Azureus and try 'gksudo azureus' instead.
[11:28] <mc_________> topyli, well but maybe i should try it out before saying it sucks ^^
[11:29] <debrisss> ok - 2 seks
[11:29] <nekostar> that and the totem repository farkups
[11:29] <ryan_naruto> is there a workaround in wine so i could install nero 7 in my linux
[11:29] <BobSongs> :)
[11:29] <sioux> dodzey thank you in compiz.net I found the solution :-)
[11:29] <nekostar> ok going off to build xchat ~_______________~
[11:30] <debrisss> BobSongs: same thing AGAIn - considering using Opera's client or another client (if i could only find a decent one...)
[11:30] <mc_________> ryan_naruto, try the newes wine version
[11:30] <ryan_naruto> can k3d make vcd movies????? im noob
[11:30] <topyli> mc_________: dunno, i've never tried it personally :)
[11:30] <mc_________> ryan_naruto, it can
[11:30] <Dodzey> sioux: no probs....compiz and Xgl can b e a pain to set up, hopefully everything will go smoothly
[11:30] <debrisss> oh poop - i've quit azureus but the warning window stays OPEN :(
[11:30] <BobSongs> debrisss: I'm trying it here to see if it works. :-/ It did in the PAST. Why it's acting up now is unknown.
[11:30] <stefg> ryan_naruto: why would you want that. you can have native k3b, and the recoding functions of nero7 won't work anyway
[11:31] <debrisss> thanks BobSongs - i appreciate the help
[11:31] <tanlaan> how do you change your computers name? as in im using mutt and my email is tanlaan@tanlaan *tanlaan being both my username and computer name*
[11:32] <BobSongs> debrisss: I'm in the middle of a huge software re-install. Sorry if things are slow. I just re-installed and I'm installing ... ohh, hundreds of packages.
[11:32] <debrisss> BobSongs: hehe - take your time ;)
[11:32] <stefg> tanlaan: edit /etc/hostname and edit /etc/hosts to reflect that change. reboot afterwards
[11:32] <Dodzey> BobSongs: make sure you stick ardour in the list while your at it ;-)
[11:32] <tuanies> hi2u
[11:32] <tanlaan> stefg: thanks
[11:32] <debrisss> BobSongs: the only thing i'm in a HURRY about is to get this warning box off my desktop - it's there even tho i closed azureus
[11:33] <Dodzey> debriss: tried xkill and clicking on it?
[11:33] <Dodzey> debrisss: tried xkill and clicking on it?
[11:33] <BobSongs> Dodzey: That's next. Odd how Add/Remove programs shows Ardour but won't allow it to be installed. I'll do it through Synaptic.
[11:33] <debrisss> Dodzey: just tried that - it won't die
[11:34] <Dodzey> debrisss: check the system monitor, see if theres any stray processes
[11:34] <stefg> debrisss: Do a screen-lock (shift-ctrl-l) and unlock by entering you password. Should be gone then
[11:35] <ryan_naruto> is wine 0.9.18 wineHQ the newest version of wine or are there other wine binary out there???????
[11:35] <debrisss> stefg: screen-lock isn't working
[11:36] <mjr> ryan_naruto, well, winehq.com front page tells us that it is indeed the latest release
[11:36] <BobSongs> debrisss: or you could just log out.
[11:36] <debrisss> Dodzey: i'm looking now - nothing i can see in the process list - unless it's notification-daemon?
[11:36] <stefg> debrisss: sorry it's alt-ctrl-l
[11:36] <Dodzey> debrisss: thats the notification area for the panel
[11:37] <debrisss> stefg: that worked, but it didn't get rid of the popup ;)
[11:37] <Dodzey> debrisss: log out and back in?
[11:37] <debrisss> Dodzey: gonna do that now - brb
[11:37] <BobSongs> debrisss: If that don't work, then shut the X-Windowing system. Close all programs, save all files, then Ctrl+Alt+Backspace.
[11:38] <Dodzey> a log out should do it
[11:38] <stefg> debrisss: , I had nothing but truble with azureus, too. I ended up with using uTorrent with wine :-)
[11:38] <KenSentMe> When i do a dist-upgrade the totem package is held back, how can i find out why?
[11:39] <admin__> is there some script or program that will auto create an /etc/fstab file ?
[11:39] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Have you ever messed with Rosegarden or Lilypond?
[11:39] <debrisss> there - now that pesky window is gone :)
[11:40] <Dodzey> BobSongs: Rosegarden briefly, lilypond never
[11:40] <BobSongs> debrisss: Yay!
[11:40] <debrisss> :) :) :)
[11:40] <admin__> or, what might create an fstab when ubuntu gets installed for the first time ?
[11:40] <stefg> KenSentMe: totem is just a dummy package. the real ones are totem-gstreamer or totem-xine. I guess it's safe to remove since it was only transitional
[11:40] <Dodzey> Bobsongs: why do all the linux based sequencers have daft names...saying that "cubase" isn't much better
[11:40] <debrisss> so that's ONE problem solved ;)
[11:41] <BobSongs> debrisss: Azureus has disappeared from my system. I don't understand why, really. What's happening is I may have selected it from the huge list of packages and the previous install is ... gone.
[11:41] <roryyy48> classroom ubuntu???
[11:41] <BobSongs> Dodzey: LOL!!!
[11:42] <KreativeLight> HELP!  My PC won't shut down properly, and I get a bunch of text with [ok]  in front of it, and then it freezes
[11:42] <hyphenated> KreativeLight: what's the last one you see?
[11:42] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Bad naming of software packages is a long and time honoured Unix tradition. Don't buck the system, man! Get with it. Almost every second program must begin with "Yet Another..." LOL
[11:42] <debrisss> BobSongs: is azureus the be all and end all of all bittorrent clients for linux? I'd be willing to use another (I was a utorrent user in windoze...)
[11:42] <KreativeLight> hyphenated: I really don't remember, it had something AD
[11:43] <BobSongs> debrisss: There are other packages. You just installed Ubuntu today? Are you switching from another distro? Or from Windows? Or Mac?
[11:43] <hyphenated> KreativeLight: once you know what the last one is, you'll know what to search the wiki for ;-)
[11:43] <stefg> KreativeLight: you need to be more informative on that to get any help. Hardware, kernel-Version and a paste of 'dmesg' to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ would help
[11:43] <taomaster> hello all- how do i change root password
[11:43] <debrisss> BobSongs: just installed ubuntu today - switched from windoze - HAVE used linux b4, but it's been awhile (back in the days of redhat before fedora...)
[11:43] <stefg> !root
[11:43] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:43] <hyphenated> you can't get the output of dmesg when you're shutting down :-0
[11:44] <BobSongs> debrisss: Open Synaptic Package Manager (System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager) and search for bittorrent.
[11:44] <KreativeLight> hyphenated & stefg:  It happens after unmounting root file systems and LVM
[11:44] <BobSongs> debrisss: Ahh. You were a Linux flirter too, eh?
[11:44] <Dodzey> BobSongs: hah..yeah...brb...just finished fixing a friends system...gotta unplug it all...i was so tempted to put ubuntu on...but he'd only scream "where is my start button"
[11:44] <stefg> KreativeLight: an ACPI problem i assume...
[11:44] <debrisss> BobSongs: there's only bittorrent, bittornado, a few obscure clients and azureus - nothing i can really TRUST imho
[11:44] <neutrinomass> Dodzey: Then Kubuntu ;)
[11:44] <BobSongs> Dodzey: lol!!
[11:44] <nemlah> Hello all
[11:45] <nemlah> i am facing a weird monitor problem
[11:45] <BobSongs> nemlah: Describe your problem.
[11:45] <debrisss> BobSongs: i WAS, now i'm never going back to windoze - m$ is too good at finding copied versions of windoze ;)
[11:45] <nemlah> the screen area is larger then the actual screen thus allowing me to pan
[11:45] <nemlah> i am using a dual screen setup with fglrx
[11:45] <BobSongs> debrisss: I must be the only one on the entire IRC that has actually paid for his copy of XP!
[11:45] <topyli> Dodzey: this "start" button, is it the same button you use to "shut down" windows? :)
[11:46] <debrisss> BobSongs: *blink*
[11:46] <KreativeLight> KreativeLight's tech brother: hyphenated: I'll find out what exactly was the last task executed during shutdown and I'll get back to you in five. Thanks.
[11:46] <BobSongs> debrisss: LOL!!
[11:46] <debrisss> you can PAY for xp??
[11:46] <debrisss> ...
[11:46] <BobSongs> debrisss: Odd, eh?
[11:46] <hyphenated> KreativeLight: have fun. I might not be here, but 700 other people will be :)
[11:46] <noiesmo> you can PAY for xp?? <-------- never
[11:46] <debrisss> BobSongs: who would have thought
[11:47] <KreativeLight> Thanks! :)
[11:47] <BobSongs> debrisss: I'm an honest man. I hated laying down any money at the "alter" of MSFT. Trust me. And it's the very last time I make that mistake.
[11:47] <taomaster> to change root password,is it chnpaswd?
[11:47] <Dodzey> topyli: exactly, I can't understand the logic....that's why on my windows box ive made "shutdown" icons on the desktop...much more sensible
[11:47] <BobSongs> noiesmo: Yeah. It hurt. But I did.
[11:47] <nemlah> Is there a possibility i have to enter the horizontal and vertical synch of my monitors? gnome worked before the problem appeared with kde
[11:47] <stefg> taomaster: do you have a root account at all on your machine?
[11:47] <taomaster> i thought i did
[11:48] <noiesmo> BobSongs, I've been fortunate to get free thru work but I don't even use it
[11:48] <stefg> !sudo > taomaster
[11:48] <debrisss> BobSongs: the ONLY thing i was waiting for so that i could go 100% to linux was wireless support and pocket pc support - ubuntu supported my wifi card out of the box and i got evolution synched with my ppc this morning...
[11:48] <debrisss> BobSongs: ppc support is still a bit clumsy, but it's THERE
[11:48] <noiesmo> BobSongs, well at work only
[11:48] <topyli> Dodzey: when i last had a windows machine (win98) i found a way to crack explorer.exe so i changed it to read "Snarf"
[11:48] <taomaster> i use sudo and it does not work
[11:48] <stefg> taomaster: read ubotus PM please
[11:48] <BobSongs> doiesmo: Free? Kewl! My office never did THAT for us. :-S
[11:48] <taomaster> said password word is wrong
[11:48] <taomaster> so i think i can change it
[11:48] <noiesmo> BobSongs, gov job licence agreement
[11:49] <Dodzey> topyli: yeah, resource hacks are always fun
[11:49] <stefg> taomaster: read ubotus PM please
[11:49] <BobSongs> noiesmo: Understood.
[11:49] <micahcowan> Unfortunately, those of us who are hopelessly addicted to games will be forced to retain Windows... I'll be danged if they're gonna squeeze money outta me for Vista, tho'.
[11:49] <BobSongs> noiesmo: Well, paying for XP made it easy to re-install XP each time I'd overdone the tweaking... or installed too many confliction programs.
[11:49] <stefg> !offtopic
[11:49] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:50] <rswday> Hey, does anyone know how to set-up the internet on Ubuntu using a wireless card? I'm stuck
[11:50] <stefg> !wifi
[11:50] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:50] <noiesmo> micahcowan, looks like you get an xbox then eventually you'll need vista for newer games you'll see
[11:50] <Dodzey> stefg subtley hinting we should all go to #ubuntu-offtopic hehe
[11:50] <noiesmo> sorry stefg no more offtopic for me
[11:51] <george_looney> hello people
[11:51] <george_looney> I have a question regarding AMAVIS and SA
[11:51] <george_looney> I am not able to see the SA headers in the mail messages
[11:51] <nemlah> how do i change the graphical login manager
[11:51] <nemlah> from kdm to gdm
[11:51] <nemlah> ?
[11:52] <BobSongs> noiesmo: Here's the funny thing: the last time I installed XP the activation failed. MSFT complained that I had "overactivated" the software and had to phone in the problem. Yeah. Like that's about to happen. This happened the same day I had decided to use Ubuntu (Breezy Badger just came out) as my main O/S. So I said: "It's a sign! I'm no longer going to use XP as my primary O/S!"
[11:52] <george_looney> sudo nemlah: update-rc.d -f kdm remove
[11:52] <cowmilk> so i removed a package via "sudo aptitude remove ". but how do i also get rid of any possible conffiles, too?
[11:52] <taomaster> thanx 4 the info on the password issue
[11:52] <george_looney> sudo nemlah: update-rc.d -f gdm defaults
[11:53] <stefg> sudo nemlah:  command not found :-P
[11:53] <cowmilk> how do i check my history of commands that i did in terminal , with commands i did that begun with "sudo aptitude install"?
[11:53] <debrisss> what does everyone here use for irc? I'm using chatzilla now, but is there something easier/better?
[11:53] <george_looney> stefg: D-Oh
[11:53] <cowmilk> debrisss: opera's chat client
[11:53] <noiesmo> BobSongs, :) dam I am lucky then as the xp we uses needs no activation can install as many times and its guinuine everytime
[11:53] <nemlah> huh.. thanks
[11:54] <george_looney> cowmilk: grep aptitude .bash_history
[11:54] <debrisss> cowmilk: i've heard a LOT about opera lately - is it that much better than firefox?
[11:54] <BobSongs> noiesmo: Your copy would be the "Corporate Edition" then. No activation required.
[11:54] <cowmilk> debrisss: i hear it's got less of a memory footprint.
[11:54] <noiesmo> BobSongs, yep
[11:54] <debrisss> cowmilk: you been using it long?
[11:54] <BobSongs> debrisss: It's not bad, really.
[11:55] <cowmilk> debrisss: ever since i heard that firefox leaks memory
[11:55] <stefg> debrisss: give it a try... i personally prefer firefox because of the relly brilliant adblocking features with the adblock extension
[11:55] <RunUO22748> whats is LVM/
[11:55] <cowmilk> debrisss: for 1 year now
[11:55] <RunUO22748> ?
[11:55] <george_looney> can someone please help me with AMAVIS and SA?
[11:55] <Dodzey> cowmilk: i've found flock to be pretty good
[11:55] <cowmilk> but used it a few years ago, too
[11:55] <BobSongs> debrisss: Yeah. Old memory leaked from Firefox is still stuck to my keyboard.
[11:55] <debrisss> lol
[11:55] <RunUO22748> whats lvm?
[11:55] <cowmilk> Dodzey: my old p3 500mhz probably could't handl flock
[11:56] <george_looney> RunUO22748: LVM = Logical Volume Manager
[11:56] <noiesmo> linux volume management
[11:56] <noiesmo> l/linux/logical
[11:56] <cowmilk> george_looney:  your grep aptitude .bash_history didn't work
[11:56] <BobSongs> debrisss: But overall Opera works fairly well in Ubuntu; faster load time than FF, imho
[11:56] <Dodzey> cowmilk: maybe not....ive got tonnes of tabs open and its using 60mb
[11:56] <RunUO22748> Ok well ill just do it the old way
[11:56] <debriss> dude :)
[11:57] <debriss> ok - this is not a bad client...
[11:57] <GioSico> Anyone with software RAID experience out there? I recently had to move two hard drives that were mirrored from one ubuntu to 6.06 ... now they dont show any content ... there is no mdadm.conf file ... and I am thinking there is a problem with the UUID of the old computer verus that of the new one ... anyone have any thoughts? Much thanks ...
[11:57] <tanlaan> anyone know how to change the return address mutt gives? I changed my computers name in /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts and reboot and sent a test mail to another email account and it was still using my old computer name. any help would be awesome
[11:57] <debriss> weird to be surfing, downloading a torrent and chatting in the same window lol
[11:57] <george_looney> cowmilk: what user did you run aptitude as?
[11:57] <stefg> tanlaan: you'd need to reconfigure mutt teh
[11:57] <stefg> *then
[11:58] <Luke> is there a way to downgrade from edgy back to dapper?
[11:58] <debriss> ummm - is opera suddenly free?
[11:58] <tanlaan> stefg: hmm should i just reinstall it in synaptic? :D
[11:58] <debriss> no ads anywhere...
[11:58] <cowmilk> george_looney: as sudo
[11:58] <BobSongs> debriss: Are you torrenting with Azureus?
[11:58] <stefg> tanlaan: i guess a sudo dpkg-reconfigure mutt would do it
[11:58] <george_looney> cowmilk: sudo grep aptitude .bash_history
[11:59] <tanlaan> stefg: hmm ill try it
[11:59] <Dodzey> BobSongs: lilypond just generates score sheets from midi...yeah?
[11:59] <debriss> BobSongs: nope - opera ;)
[11:59] <BobSongs> Dodzey: It's a command-line scoring package that integrates into many other software packages, Rosegarden being one.
[12:00] <cowmilk> george_looney grep: .bash_history: No such file or directory
[12:00] <BobSongs> debriss: Opera torrents? Opera rocks.
[12:00] <BobSongs> debriss: Opera's been free for quite a few months now.
[12:00] <Dodzey> BobSongs: ahh..so you use it alongside rosegarden...cool...i should maybes try and set up some recording software on my linux install...i just use my xp one for music
[12:00] <redblades> Hi, how can I check stuff like harddrive capacity, and how many HDs are connected?
[12:00] <RunUO22748> When i install Ubuntu Server 6.06 does it install apps? or is it a like an old netinstall?
[12:01] <george_looney> cowmilk: ohhh, only sudo does not start a login shell!
[12:01] <debriss> BobSongs: we started talking about opera, i got curious.... now opera's the only window i have open lol
[12:01] <micahcowan> cowmilk, use ~/.bash_history (and I don't see why sudo would be necessary...)
[12:01] <shiv> My windows loads fine her /media/windows but cannot see any longer on desktop
[12:01] <george_looney> cowmilk: plus the HISTSIZE is probably small and all your aptitude commands have popped out
[12:01] <tanlaan> stefg: that didnt work
[12:01] <debriss> BobSongs: well how DARE they make it free software - now i have NOTHING to crack :(
[12:01] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Same here. XP's still ahead in music. Few people use their PCs for serious music editing (compared to the vast number that use spreadsheets and word processors, etc.) Imagine how few Linux users use their machines for editing.
[12:02] <tanlaan> stefg: im gonna try the reinstall
[12:02] <BobSongs> debriss: Stressful, isn't it?
[12:02] <cowmilk> george_looney:  micahcowan ok it works now. but i don't see the more recent sudo aptitude commans that i ran.
[12:02] <debriss> BobSongs: downright crappy, i'd say
[12:03] <BobSongs> debriss: You already know that free software is hugely available for Linux. You'll have to crack software... just to run it in Wine.
[12:03] <george_looney> cowmilk: you could press CTRL+R
[12:03] <micahcowan> cowmilk, recent history hasn't been saved to bash_history, if it was the current shell.
[12:03] <george_looney> cowmilk: that will bring up the reverse search
[12:03] <boing757895445> hi there
[12:03] <george_looney> cowmilk: or just logout from all consoles
[12:03] <micahcowan> cowmilk, ^^ what george_looney said, plus you could grep the output of the "history" command.
[12:03] <george_looney> cowmilk: ...and login again and then grep aptitude .bash_history
[12:03] <micahcowan> history | grep aptitude
[12:03] <mikeymike-linux> can anyone help me with my hp digital camera..... its set to be a 'drive' and when i plug it in ubuntu detects it as a camera and asks if i want to ignore or import..... i choose import and select the pictures i want to import..... i click the import button and it does nothing...
[12:04] <Lynoure> BobSongs: There is at least couple of commercial DJ suites for linux. Dunno about composing/editing otherwise
[12:04] <cowmilk> george_looney: what do i type after i do "CTRL + R"
[12:04] <fyrestrtr> mikeymike-linux: use f-spot
[12:04] <m4rk> how do I get gnome network manager to manage my wifi connection?
[12:04] <debriss> BobSongs: what the heck am i supposed to do with all my time now?? something PRODUCTIVE????????
[12:05] <protocol1> Is there a proper way to uninstall xubuntu-desktop?
[12:05] <boing757895445> where do i have to put the following line to your environment: JAVA_HOME=/opt/jre1.5.0_05??
[12:05] <protocol1> or a right way of uninstalling it?
[12:05] <stefg> m4rk: read through the wifi howto yet?
[12:05] <mikeymike-linux> ok i will in a second then
[12:05] <m4rk> it just says "No network connection", meanwhile I have eth1 going through some other network manager
[12:05] <mikeymike-linux> 1 sec
[12:05] <BobSongs> Lynoure: I don't mind paying for legitimate LInux software if it's worth its weight. I was thinking Cubase software for my XP partition.
[12:05] <cowmilk> micahcowan, george_looney: i see the more recent commands when i type a simple "history'
[12:06] <nikin> hy
[12:06] <m4rk> stefg, thanks i will go read that
[12:06] <george_looney> cowmilk: yeah thats the command
[12:06] <BobSongs> Lynoure: I'm thinking along the lines of Digital Audio Workstation software.
[12:06] <RunUO22748> Print Server oownage
[12:06] <stefg> !wifi
[12:06] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:06] <protocol1> !xubuntu
[12:06] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[12:06] <fyrestrtr> boing757895445: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[12:06] <RunUO22748> Thouhg iam also going to install Xubuntu on it so i can like .. whatch porn while printing
[12:07] <Dodzey> BobSongs: It's not the software, its the integration...on linux DAW software doesn't integrate easily without kernel recompiles etc... I Use Cubase...under a heavily streamlined XP isntall, and it's wonderful
[12:07] <nikin> is there a Wifi device (PCMICA/USB) that is out of the box supported by any Linux? or just by Ubuntu?
[12:07] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Which version?
[12:07] <fyrestrtr> nikin: any intel based chipset is.
[12:07] <mikeymike-linux> fyrestrtr, where exactly in fspot do i configure?
[12:07] <BobSongs> Dodzey: I mean: of Cubase... not Windows. ;-)
[12:08] <fyrestrtr> mikeymike-linux: nothing, install it, plug in your camera, then import the pictures.
[12:08] <boing757895445> that's all @ fyrestrtr?
[12:08] <fyrestrtr> boing757895445: yes
[12:08] <mikeymike-linux> fyrestrtr, its not doing anything
[12:08] <Dodzey> Dodzey: SL 2
[12:08] <mikeymike-linux> i have fspot open right now
[12:08] <fyrestrtr> mikeymike-linux: maybe its taking a while.
[12:08] <boing757895445> ok i try that
[12:08] <mikeymike-linux> negative
[12:08] <fyrestrtr> mikeymike-linux: have you imported the pictures?
[12:08] <nikin> Fyrestrtr are there any on the market? i have only seen intel based wifi built in in notebooks
[12:08] <mikeymike-linux> fyrestrtr, it wont import them
[12:08] <fyrestrtr> nikin: I don't know about that, sorry.
[12:09] <mikeymike-linux> i select import photos
[12:09] <fyrestrtr> mikeymike-linux: file -> import
[12:09] <Dodzey> BobSongs: SL 2, ive done it again, pasted my name instead of yours....
[12:09] <fyrestrtr> mikeymike-linux: import source, select your camera
[12:09] <munkay> guys, i have a geforce go 7400 on my laptop, i am on dapper..
[12:09] <windmill> If I've got file on one computer and I want them on another computer and they are networked together, what is the best way to do that?
[12:09] <mikeymike-linux> ok
[12:09] <BobSongs> Dodzey: heehee. It's still early. REALLY early here.
[12:09] <munkay> how do i get the nvidia drivers installed??
[12:09] <mikeymike-linux> thank you!
[12:09] <fyrestrtr> !nvidia
[12:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:09] <Seveas> !nvidia > munkay
[12:10] <munkay> okay :), thanks guys!
[12:10] <fyrestrtr> windmill: scp, ftp, samba -- many ways. i prefer scp
[12:10] <fyrestrtr> mikeymike-linux: working?
[12:10] <BobSongs> ubotu seems very knowledgable.
[12:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about seems very knowledgable. - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:10] <Dodzey> BobSongs: Why you up so early?
[12:10] <abo> can anyone tell me why I can't see on the desktop the shortcuts to the local mounted ntfs disks after I instaled ntfs-fuse and changed /etc/fstab accordingly? the disks are mounted ok and I can access them without any problem
[12:11] <windmill> fyrestrtr, interesting, never hear of scp with ftp I'd have to set up a server on one computer which sounds like hard work
[12:11] <mikeymike-linux> fyrestrtr, copying... we shall see.. however it lists them RANDOMLY is there anyw ay to SORT thei mages you want to download?
[12:11] <BobSongs> Dodzey: I fell asleep really early. Woke up around 2:00 AM. Couldn't sleep. Figured I'd get Ubuntu back up and running.
[12:11] <Dodzey> BobSongs: productive use of the time then
[12:11] <boing757895445> fyrestrtr:   Selection    Alternative
[12:11] <boing757895445> -----------------------------------------------
[12:11] <boing757895445>       1        /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.0
[12:11] <boing757895445> *+    2        /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java
[12:11] <fyrestrtr> windmill: no no, you don't use scp with ftp. scp = secure copy. ftp = file transfer protocol. They are just two ways to get files across.
[12:11] <boing757895445>  what sould i choose?
[12:11] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Ardour is installed. Do you know of a tutorial for this software?
[12:12] <fyrestrtr> boing757895445: 1. don't paste. 2. read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[12:12] <Zi3d4n3> Hi
[12:12] <boing757895445> thx
[12:12] <Dodzey> BobSongs: which version? - try http://ardour.org/manual
[12:12] <BobSongs> Dodzey: It's big; it's black; it's ... ARDOUR. And it's not obvious how to work it.
[12:12] <fyrestrtr> mikeymike-linux: I don't know of a way to do that, sorry.
[12:12] <mikeymike-linux> fyrestrtr, okay
[12:12] <BobSongs> Dodzey: kk
[12:12] <debriss> *sigh* - i hate to say it, but I'm liking opera more and more... :(
[12:12] <Zi3d4n3> I need help with my webcamera, i plugged it in the usb. It gets recongized and i can see the video image in Ekiga softphone, but it wont work in Amsn
[12:13] <mikeymike-linux> haha
[12:13] <fyrestrtr> debriss: that's okay, you don't need to hate yourself for liking something.
[12:13] <cowmilk> I did  [sudo apt-get source python-gpod] . Now, how do i undo that command?
[12:13] <Madpilot> debriss, Opera is exceedingly cool.
[12:13] <abo> debriss, opera is probably the best browser I've ever used
[12:13] <debriss> fyrestrtr: but I promised firefox my undying love and devotion!!!
[12:13] <fyrestrtr> Zi3d4n3: amsn doesn't support video
[12:13] <Zi3d4n3> yes it does
[12:13] <fyrestrtr> debriss: ah ... that ... could be a problem.
[12:13] <debriss> but opera wiggles things at me, makes me hot
[12:13] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Ardour-GTK 0.99.2-2
[12:14] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Right out of Synaptic.
[12:14] <debriss> i mean, torrent support built-in? how can i remain faithful?
[12:14] <windmill> fyrestrtr, yeah, I understand, scp seems interesting, I'll try that
[12:14] <fyrestrtr> debriss: that's xgl for ya :P
[12:14] <mjo> moin
[12:14] <fyrestrtr> debriss: you two timing.....
[12:14] <tanlaan> does anyone know which of mutt's dependencies holds whatever comes after the @ sign when sending mail?
[12:14] <Zi3d4n3> fyrstsrt it does support video, im sending now but the image is all blueish
[12:14] <mjo> bin ich hier richtig, wenn ich als Linuxanfnger fragen zu ubuntu habe?
[12:14] <Dodzey> BobSongs: I think that 2 is out...but support is iffy
[12:15] <debriss> fyrestrtr: i KNOW - i'm awful, don't deserve to enjoy the pleasures opera flaunts in my face...
[12:15] <frogzoo> !de
[12:15] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:15] <mjo> thx
[12:15] <Dodzey> BobSongs: yeah, 2.0 is the devlopment version
[12:15] <frogzoo> mjo: bitte
[12:15] <mjo> cu
[12:15] <fyrestrtr> Zi3d4n3: sorry about that, I didn't think it did. I don't have any experience with that, so you'll have to see if someone else does :)
[12:15] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Yeah; maybe I'll stick with what's here. It may have less features, but at least it won't crash every few moments.
[12:15] <Dodzey> BobSongs: http://ubuntustudio.com/wiki/index.php/Dapper:Studio_Preparation - maybe that'll help as well
[12:15] <BobSongs> Dodzey: many thanks.
[12:16] <azcazandco> how do I install the latest version of cmake?
[12:16] <richiefrich> ok i need to know whats the easiest way to get wireless working.. my friend needs to know.. and I'm not a wireless kinda peep
[12:16] <fyrestrtr> !wifi
[12:16] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:16] <mikeymike-linux> richiefrich, you followed me in here!
[12:16] <Zi3d4n3> lol nvm fyrestrt its working now lol i turned it on and off lol
[12:16] <richiefrich> mikeymike-linux i been here
[12:16] <mikeymike-linux> :D
[12:17] <richiefrich> mikeymike-linux u need help man
[12:17] <neutrinomass> azcazandco: System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager. Click "Reload". After it finishes, install "cmake" :)
[12:17] <fyrestrtr> best game to waste your time = Briquolo :D
[12:17] <ttyfscker> azcazandco:: or you could just sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install cmake
[12:18] <neutrinomass> ttyfscker: Yeah, that's what I would do. But I think that it gives newbies the impression that everything must be done from the command line ....
[12:18] <ttyfscker> well they need that impressoin
[12:18] <ttyfscker> impression
[12:18] <redblades> Hi, is it possible to compress an iso? I have a movie iso, and I want to compress it into something smaller, that will play on a DVD player.
[12:18] <ttyfscker> if they get spoiled on gui's they tend to migrate to windows faster
[12:18] <ttyfscker> or revert should i say
[12:18] <parixa> hi, can someone guide me to the room where I can ask translation related question?
[12:19] <azcazandco> I have 2.2.3-1 but to install borson I need to have cmake, it says  This project requires version: 2.3.5 of cmake.
[12:19] <elias_> how to redefine the windows key to <super> without touching xmodmap.us file?
[12:19] <elias_> is there a way to set this in xorg.conf
[12:19] <ttyfscker> azcazandco:: do what i typed
[12:19] <ttyfscker> or what neutrinomass said either one
[12:19] <ttyfscker> they both will work
[12:20] <debriss> ok - you know when i said i LIKED opera? I changed my mind
[12:20] <elias_> Option          "XkbOptions"        "altwin:super_win"   does not work
[12:20] <ttyfscker> debriss:: what turned you off
[12:20] <azcazandco> k
[12:20] <debriss> it's transferred 800 kB of a file in the last half-hour lol
[12:20] <azcazandco> I just did it
[12:20] <richiefrich> err no one on the wireless
[12:20] <debriss> torrent
[12:20] <richiefrich> !wireless
[12:20] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:20] <ttyfscker> debriss:: i doubt thats anything to do with opera
[12:20] <Dodzey> debriss: could be the torrents fault?
[12:21] <ttyfscker> opera doesnt want to load flash plugins properly
[12:21] <ttyfscker> other than that i love it
[12:21] <azcazandco> I still have the older version
[12:21] <debriss> Dodzey: yesterday i downloaded the same torrent in windoze using utorrent - i was getting 24kB/s consistantly
[12:21] <simpo> how to modprobe with parameters !?
[12:21] <Zi3d4n3> Does anyone know how to change the desktop resolutie from 24 to 32 bit in Ubuntu Draper??
[12:21] <ttyfscker> simpo:: what kind of params
[12:21] <Dodzey> debriss: that was yesterday...maybe the seeds have all downgraded to 28.8kbps dial up ...:-D
[12:21] <hyphenated> ttyfscker: opera is great on my cellphone, but I like firefox on my ubuntu ;-)
[12:21] <debriss> Dodzey: it MIGHT be something about my configuration, but I'm too new to linux to know what the problem could be....
[12:21] <azcazandco> it says I have the newest version though when updating
[12:22] <fblade> hey guys need to ask a question!, how can i mount my windows partiton on linux?
[12:22] <simpo> ttyfscker->  for ISA sound card like dma or IRQ
[12:22] <topyli> how do you import your news feeds into firefox live bookmarks from an opml file?
[12:22] <ttyfscker> hyphenated:: i like it on my linux.. if it wasnt qt based it would be even better
[12:22] <ttyfscker> simpo:: thats not something you do with modprobe
[12:22] <munkay> guys i did a nvidia-glx-config enable
[12:23] <munkay> and i get this message. Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[12:23] <boing757895445> can i start videos in textmode using vlc or mplayer??
[12:23] <munkay> This script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this
[12:23] <munkay> not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following
[12:23] <munkay> command:
[12:23] <munkay> md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum
[12:23] <simpo> ttyfscker->  so how ?
[12:23] <munkay> otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section
[12:23] <munkay> from nv to nvidia.
[12:23] <ttyfscker> man isaset
[12:23] <Zi3d4n3> munkay in terminal type: dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:23] <Zi3d4n3> and change nv to nvidia
[12:23] <fblade> hey guys need to ask a question!, how can i mount my windows partiton on linux?
[12:23] <boing757895445> man  mount
[12:24] <parixa> Hi, had a few questions about translations.. mainly how to start translating... can someone here help me...
[12:24] <unfun> What do I have to install to be able to wiev internet radio and internet video?
[12:24] <boing757895445> unfun: vlc or mplayer would do it
[12:24] <ttyfscker> unfun:: things like shoutcast live.fm etc?
[12:24] <eXistenZ> paran, go to launchpad
[12:24] <noiesmo> unfun, theres streamtuner for internet radio and streamripper
[12:24] <wouter__> unfun: google for easyubuntu
[12:24] <Zi3d4n3> Does anyone know how to change the desktop resolutie from 24 to 32 bit in Ubuntu Draper?
[12:24] <ttyfscker> unfun:: democracyplayer is good for internet tv
[12:25] <noiesmo> unfun, also mozilla-mplayer
[12:25] <eXistenZ> parixa, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu
[12:25] <eXistenZ> parixa, start from here
[12:25] <noiesmo> unfun, you'll need universe and multiverse repos
[12:25] <azcazandco> ttyfscker: I have downloaded the most recent version from the cmake site... it is a .sh file... how do i install it?
[12:25] <Dodzey> Zi3d4n3...32 bit is just 24 bit with 8 bits of alpha it should already be 32
[12:25] <azcazandco> i tried sudo ./filename.sh
[12:26] <debriss> hey - where are the preferences hidden for torrents in opera?
[12:26] <abo> anyone knows how can I get my ntfs drives shortcup icons to appear on the desktop ?
[12:26] <ttyfscker> unfun:: and streamtuner/streamripper are good too
[12:26] <Zi3d4n3> Dodzey, its amsn related my webcam is sending to bright image; according to amsn i should change to 32 bits deksop....
[12:26] <ttyfscker> azcazandco:: sudo chmod +x filename.sh
[12:26] <ttyfscker> azcazandco::  then ./filename.sh
[12:26] <unfun> I'm using totem-xine but I still can't wiev internet videos and listen to radio.
[12:26] <boing757895445> abo: Connection to server from the dropdown menu in gnome??
[12:27] <Dodzey> Zi3d4n3..just try reconfiguring xorg.conf
[12:28] <abo> boing757895445, what do u mean, my question is, I have ntfs drives that are properly mounted and I can use them, but they don't appear in the "places" menu and on the desktop
[12:28] <ttyfscker> unfun:: you need some plugins then.. try automatix or easyubuntu...  automatix works.. but for some reason the higher powers in here dont like it..  i prefer it over easyubuntu myself
[12:28] <Zi3d4n3> Dodzey: reconfigure using gedit ??
[12:28] <adi> msg nickserv register adi
[12:28] <abo> boing757895445, I need to browse manually to use them
[12:29] <boing757895445> abo: what about the ln -s function?
[12:29] <adi> do you know some easy RSS/Atom/RDF editing tools?
[12:29] <ttyfscker> boing757895445:: soft sym link
[12:29] <noiesmo> automatix seems to cause more problems than it's worth thats why no one here likes it ttyfscker
[12:29] <abo> boing757895445, to ceate symbolic links?
[12:29] <Zi3d4n3> Dodzey: if yes where do is it located the xorg.conf?
[12:29] <boing757895445> ya
[12:29] <azcazandco> thanks
[12:29] <parixa> I am using ubuntu in Hindi, the problem is, while using an application I see something not/wrongly translated I want a quick way of finding just that entry, fixing it and seeing the result in that application... is there something to do that...
[12:29] <ttyfscker> noiesmo:: i havent seen any problems with it
[12:29] <abo> boing757895445, you mean I should create symbolic link on the desktop?
[12:29] <Dodzey> Zi3d4n3: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:29] <unfun> !easyubuntu
[12:29] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[12:30] <abo> boing757895445, why isn't this happening automatically like the other fat32 and ext3 disks?
[12:30] <Dodzey> Zi3d4n3: under the screen section use can set Default_Depth, but as far as i am aware, 24 is the max as the 8bits of alpha are automatically switched on
[12:30] <boing757895445> yes when it's already properly mounted just create a symbolic link and you can access it, right?
[12:30] <boing757895445> local and network drives?
[12:30] <wouter__> Hi all. I have a problem. I just installed KDE3.5.4. One package (kdemultimedia) wasnt able to upgrade. The error message is: libarts1-audiofile (>=4:3.5.4-0ubuntu2~dapper1) but 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu3 is to be installed.  What should I do to get kdemultimedia to upgrade?
[12:30] <boing757895445> i don't know sorry
[12:31] <ttyfscker> boing757895445:: yes you can just ln -s /source/path/  /destination/path/
[12:31] <boing757895445> thanks tty i am trying to help abo :)
[12:31] <azcazandco> yikes... it has installed to my desktop instead of where it normally should go
[12:31] <cowmilk> i want to get a certain file, python-gpod, into repository. Whom should i contact?
[12:31] <ttyfscker> boing757895445:: sorry i meant for that to be for abo
[12:31] <gnomefreak> :( python
[12:32] <boing757895445> oh :)
[12:32] <ttyfscker> cowmilk:: good luck
[12:32] <abo> boing757895445, it's a local drive
[12:32] <ttyfscker> cowmilk:: if gtkpod isnt good enough py gpod sure as hell wont be
[12:32] <boing757895445> how can a nfs be a local drive??
[12:32] <gnomefreak> cowmilk: file a bug stating that you would like it in edgy but as ttyfscker said good luck (python policy has changed)
[12:32] <Lynoure> boing757895445: get a newer libarts1-audiofile... bu I have no idea from where. Was KDE 3.5.4 in backports, or where did you get it from?
[12:32] <richiefrich> cowmilk hey man
[12:32] <richiefrich> cowmilk how's it going
[12:32] <gnomefreak> Lynoure: get it from kubuntu.org
[12:32] <abo> boing757895445, I know that when a symbolic is created I can access it,  it's a NTFS not NFS
[12:33] <Zi3d4n3> Dodzey: ill leave it 24, thx
[12:33] <Lynoure> gnomefreak: I'm not interested in getting it
[12:33] <gnomefreak> Lynoure: add the repo to your sources.list file and install
[12:33] <boing757895445> ooo
[12:33] <boing757895445> sry then
[12:33] <Lynoure> gnomefreak: .Really.
[12:33] <RunUO22748> i want to install Xubuntu-desktop BUT ONLY that.. not the other shit it comes wht
[12:33] <fyrestrtr> anyone tried hula?
[12:33] <Lynoure> gnomefreak: just considering trying to help boing757895445
[12:33] <wouter__> Lynoure: I used the manual on the kubuntu site to install kde 3.5.4
[12:33] <BobSongs> debriss: So? How's the torrenting? I just finished messing with Azureus. I started it at the command prompt with gksudo and installed all updates. It works fine now.
[12:33] <ttyfscker> abo:: im not quiet sure what your doing.. but with a symbolic link on a ntfs partition it is going to retain its same permissions in its destination path
[12:34] <ttyfscker> abo:: and that is going to default to ro
[12:34] <cowmilk> ttyfscker: well, gtkpod is good enough. i just need podcast support, and if i can install python-gpod, then gpodder can directly sync podcasts into my iPod.
[12:34] <ttyfscker> cowmilk:: install ipodder
[12:34] <cowmilk> !info python-gpod edgy
[12:34] <Lynoure> oops, I got boing757895445  and wouter__  mixed up for a bit
[12:34] <ubotu> python-gpod: a library to read and write songs and artwork to an iPod. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.3.2-1.1 (edgy), package size 64 kB, installed size 328 kB
[12:35] <boing757895445> ;) no prob
[12:35] <topyli> wouter__: it's trying to downgrade. the kde you're getting is unofficial and not supported apparently
[12:35] <wouter__> Lynoure: I noticed :D
[12:35] <cowmilk> gnomefreak: python-gpod is in edgy.
[12:35] <cowmilk> but i'm in dapper
[12:35] <gnomefreak> ah
[12:35] <cowmilk> ipodder? the cli app?
[12:35] <redblades> Is it possible to compress an iso to a smaller playable format?
[12:36] <Lynoure> wouter__: then, at least contact the people who made the manual and let them know some requirements are missing. Slow, but will help some people that take the same part. Backports might possibly have a newer version of the package you want. Have you checked?
[12:36] <ttyfscker> ehh
[12:36] <abo> ttyfscker, I'm asking why don't I get the shortcuts to my ntfs drives on the desktop like I do for other disks (same on the "places" menu)
[12:36] <wouter__> Lynoure: can I just uninstall the currentlly installed libarts and then try to upgrade kdemultimedia again?
[12:36] <abo> ttyfscker, I'm not sure "ls -n" is the answer
[12:36] <richiefrich> u dont need ipodder
[12:36] <richiefrich> use wget
[12:36] <Lynoure> wouter__: that does not fix your problem unless you have a new one to install...
[12:36] <ttyfscker> cowmilk::  no its gui
[12:37] <wouter__> Lynoure: I'm new to Ubuntu so to be honest, I dont know what backports are :P
[12:37] <KenSentMe> How can i see wath ports my system is listening to?
[12:37] <cowmilk> richiefrich: my prob is not downloading podcasts. it's getting them onto my iPod
[12:37] <azcazandco> man I wish I could get my head around compiling stuff...  it is the only part that I am having difficulty with since switching from windows
[12:37] <topyli> wouter__: they'll probably fix it in a few days
[12:37] <RunUO22748> what is the package name for minimal install of Xubuntu?
[12:37] <ttyfscker> cowmilk:: it wont put them on your ipod
[12:37] <cowmilk> ttyfscker: exactly.
[12:37] <ttyfscker> cowmilk:: gtkpod will put podcast on your ipod
[12:37] <richiefrich> cowmilk ahh then mount the ipod and cp them over
[12:37] <ttyfscker> richiefrich:: you cant drag and drop on ipod os
[12:37] <richiefrich> u can cp
[12:37] <Lynoure> wouter__: aka multiverse repository
[12:37] <richiefrich> or mv
[12:38] <ttyfscker> no you cant
[12:38] <gnomefreak> RunUO22748: you can install xfce4 but your better off installing xubuntu-desktop
[12:38] <cowmilk> ttyfscker: i have gtkpod. but how do i get gtkpod to upload my podcasts into my iPod?
[12:38] <ttyfscker> it has to build a database
[12:38] <wouter__> Lynoure: aha, I have that one enabled
[12:38] <ttyfscker> cowmilk:: the same way you do your songs
[12:38] <Lynoure> wouter__: then it does not have a newer one... Patience, then.
[12:38] <cowmilk> ttyfscker: well, not really the same way.
[12:38] <protocol1> anyone know a good place to download system sounds?
[12:38] <ttyfscker> cowmilk:: yea the same way
[12:38] <protocol1> like alerts or dings etc?
[12:38] <richiefrich> ttyfscker well i dont use a normal ipod
[12:38] <ttyfscker> just create a new directory for podcasts
[12:38] <gnomefreak> protocol1: i think gnome-look.org has them
[12:39] <ttyfscker> richiefrich:: i use rockbox
[12:39] <wouter__> Lynoure: OK, thnx for the help. I'll try updating again in a few days
[12:39] <protocol1> gnomefreak, aight thanks
[12:39] <richiefrich> ttyfscker and u can cp and mv with it
[12:39] <ttyfscker> yes
[12:39] <cowmilk> ttyfscker: ok. here's what i do. i use gpodder to download the podcasts into a folder. but that folder begins with .config.
[12:39] <richiefrich> as i said
[12:39] <troytroy> hi guys was helping one linux* nick here early today when my server went off. am online now so ..
[12:39] <ttyfscker> but he is using gtkpod
[12:39] <richiefrich> bah  re flash it
[12:39] <Lynoure> Does 3.5.4 come with something absolutely fabulous new things?
[12:39] <cowmilk> ttyfscker: and gtkpod can't read folders begining with a . (period)
[12:39] <richiefrich> install rock
[12:39] <ttyfscker> cowmilk:: change the download directory
[12:39] <cowmilk> i can import as files, but it loses the comments that each mp3 has
[12:40] <jimcooncat> how do I take a full dapper installation back down to a "server" install? aptitude purge xserver-xorg?
[12:40] <cowmilk> ttyfscker: do you know what i mean?
[12:40] <ttyfscker> or move your files to a diff folder
[12:40] <gatekeeper> Lynoure, mainly bug fixes i think
[12:40] <richiefrich> KenSentMe what do u need ?
[12:40] <Bassetts> can anyone recommend a good nvidia card? im fed up with ATI, I need it for gaming too but I want it to work well in linux
[12:40] <richiefrich> KenSentMe  what ports are open on your box?
[12:40] <KenSentMe> richiefrich: yes
[12:40] <ttyfscker> cowmilk:: why did you quit rockbox?
[12:40] <richiefrich> KenSentMe  run this then
[12:40] <cowmilk> ttyfscker: ok. i didn't
[12:40] <cowmilk> i didn't quit
[12:40] <ttyfscker> cowmilk:: didnt i help you install rockbox the other day?
[12:40] <cowmilk> i just haven't installed it yet
[12:40] <noiesmo> Bassetts, any nvidia card is linux freindly
[12:41] <ttyfscker> oh
[12:41] <ttyfscker> different person
[12:41] <cowmilk> yes, i was the same person 12 hours ago or so
[12:41] <Bassetts> noiesmo, which model is that?
[12:41] <counter123> I've installed wpasupplicant and it does work when called from commandline, but /etc/init.d/wpasupplicant doesn't exist. Why is the init script missing and how can I get it?
[12:41] <cowmilk> i just want to get this podcasting thing working first
[12:41] <zugu> hi all
[12:41] <cowmilk> then i'll look into podcasting, ttyfscker.
[12:41] <noiesmo> Bassetts, i've got 6600gt but there all good
[12:41] <ttyfscker> cowmilk:: i dont know what the comments your talking about are
[12:41] <cowmilk> do you have  a  diffrerent nick on rockbox channel?
[12:41] <Bassetts> noiesmo, do you use it for gaming?
[12:41] <Chrismo> is automatrix any good?
[12:41] <ttyfscker> cowmilk:: no
[12:41] <richiefrich> KenSentMe for X in inet inet6; do netstat -A $X --numeric-hosts --numeric-ports | grep -v 127.0.0.1; done;
[12:41] <richiefrich> in a term
[12:42] <zugu> !automatix > Chrismo
[12:42] <protocol1> I do I open a rar file?
[12:42] <Lynoure> gatekeeper: thanks, then I'll think I'll happily keep to this older one until I run into something intolerable
[12:42] <cowmilk> ttyfscker:on the ipod, if you click the middle buttons a few times while  a podcast mp3 is playing, you'll get to the comments page
[12:42] <richiefrich> protocol1 file-roller
[12:42] <richiefrich> protocol1 unrar
[12:42] <noiesmo> Bassetts, use for warcraft 3 in wine and in windows when I do use it not very ooften can play ut2003 also in linux np
[12:42] <ttyfscker> Chrismo::  automatix isnt going to break your system like they try to make you think..
[12:42] <zugu> protocol1 > you have to install packages rar and unrar for file-roller to open rar archives
[12:42] <KenSentMe> richiefrich: Apache wont restart due to this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19772
[12:42] <gatekeeper> Chrismo, don't use automatrix unless you want to spend time fixing things
[12:42] <cowmilk> and gpodder downloads these comments. but when i do the "import files" in gtkpod, it loses the comments info
[12:42] <Bassetts> noiesmo,  thanks, ill look into one =)
[12:43] <Chrismo> ty
[12:43] <noiesmo> Chrismo, yes dont use automatrix its bad
[12:43] <richiefrich> KenSentMe past your paache configs
[12:43] <noiesmo> Bassetts, np
[12:43] <protocol1> zugu, do you have specific names that I can apt-get?
[12:43] <ttyfscker> noiesmo:: thats BS
[12:43] <richiefrich> KenSentMe theres a bunch i know
[12:43] <gatekeeper> Lynoure, that's what I am doing, unless there is an issue I can't see a reason to move
[12:44] <noiesmo> ttyfscker, no its not
[12:44] <counter123> can anyone give me a hint what to do about the missing /etc/init.d/wpasupplicant ?
[12:44] <noiesmo> counter123, you have to create it
[12:44] <ttyfscker> noiesmo:: whatever.. automatix doesnt force install anything..  and its no different than doing everything by hand.
[12:44] <snoops> noiesmo it's great how ut, ut2003, ut2004 natively work in linux.. even the binary installers (for nix) on the disk
[12:44] <noiesmo> snoops, yep sure is
[12:44] <cowmilk> ttyfscker: i can't seem to be able to change the "Download to" folder in gPodder
[12:44] <noiesmo> ttyfscker, what man what
[12:44] <george_033> does anyone know billydancer
[12:44] <ttyfscker> cowmilk:: use ipodder
[12:44] <Bassetts> is it possible to have a PCI-E and a AGP card installed next to each other?
[12:45] <snoops> I hope the same goes for ut2007 but I'm a tad worried it won't..
[12:45] <Chrismo> use Juice
[12:45] <Bassetts> and choose which you use?
[12:45] <zugu> protocol1 > install the packages "rar" and "unrar-nonfree"
[12:45] <noiesmo> hassele gatekeeper as well ttyfscker
[12:45] <richiefrich> Bassetts do that make a board with both ?
[12:45] <george_033> hi
[12:45] <richiefrich> Bassetts i dont think they do
[12:45] <ttyfscker> noiesmo:: what are you ranting about
[12:45] <Bassetts> richiefrich, my motherboard has agp and pci-e
[12:45] <richiefrich> Bassetts what board please
[12:46] <Bassetts> ASUS P5VD1-X
[12:46] <zugu> protocol1 > sorry, it's "unrar", not "unrar-nonfree"
[12:46] <noiesmo> ttyfscker, about you insisting on recommending automatrix when its not liked here
[12:46] <protocol1> aight
[12:47] <gatekeeper> noiesmo, 3.5.4 or automatrix or me ?
[12:47] <ttyfscker> noiesmo:: who cares what those ops prefer..  the users are the ones that should have the say so.. i have installed it on a variety of different setups and it didnt break anything.. the only danger it has is replacing your sources.list
[12:47] <george_033> are n00bs welcome here
[12:47] <KenSentMe> richiefrich: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19773
[12:47] <ttyfscker> george_033:: no
[12:47] <noiesmo> gatekeeper, no ttyfscker insists automatrix is ok and you said as i did its not good but he's hassles me
[12:47] <richiefrich> Bassetts for real..  wow i dint think they'd do something that crazy
[12:47] <george_033> k
[12:48] <fyrestrtr> does anyone know of the ati mobility x1300 chipset is well supported for xgl?
[12:48] <Bassetts> richiefrich, is so people can upgrade slowly to newer technologies like pci-e
[12:48] <zugu> as far as I heard, auromatix is not forcing things anymore, can someone please update me on why is it dangerous ? (never used it)
[12:48] <cowmilk> ipodder is memory intensive, isn't it? i'm on xubuntu
[12:48] <ttyfscker> noiesmo:: its a matter of opinion.. it doesnt hurt to give it a try.. if it breaks then report it to the automatix bug site
[12:48] <richiefrich> Bassetts i thought it was one or the other.. and your question was can u choose ?
[12:48] <Bassetts> richiefrich, i mean can you have both installed
[12:48] <ttyfscker> noiesmo:: i havent seen anyone in here complaining it didnt work or it caused problems..
[12:49] <richiefrich> Bassetts  sure why not
[12:49] <noiesmo> ttyfscker, bad additute to take with newbies there here for help not for you to break things and say just report a bug come on please
[12:49] <ttyfscker> noiesmo:: is it because it can install things that arent .deb?
[12:49] <gatekeeper> noiesmo, well if ttyfscker thinks it's so great he can volunteer to fix ALL the things it manages to breaks on people system :-)
[12:49] <munkay> hello guys, i did the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org
[12:49] <richiefrich> Bassetts  edit  your  xorg.conf accordingly
[12:49] <semtecx> hi
[12:49] <ttyfscker> noiesmo and gatekeeper thats a crock of Sh*t if i ever heard any..
[12:49] <munkay> and it said the nvidia module and my kernel module don't match
[12:49] <ttyfscker> automatix doesnt do anything that you or i wouldnt do by hand..
[12:50] <deep_space_9> did anyone catch the show last night
[12:50] <ttyfscker> if you for say want google earth.. it installs the binary instead of a .deb.. is that reason not to use it.. no
[12:50] <fyrestrtr> munkay: are you installing the drviers from nvidia.com or the ones in repositories?
[12:50] <richiefrich> man all this arguing .. i likes it
[12:50] <munkay> the ones in the repos
[12:50] <munkay> restricited
[12:50] <ttyfscker> ahh i dont really care
[12:50] <fyrestrtr> munkay: did you have the nvidia.com drivers installed previously?>
[12:50] <andi5> hi... maybe a bit ot, can somebody with bittorrent experience tell me whether he can connect to a tracker of http://orange.blender.org/download ? that would really rock :)
[12:51] <munkay> fyrestrtr nope this is my first time, got a new lappie
[12:51] <ttyfscker> you all can help these people give ubuntu a bad name
[12:51] <zugu> andi5 > hang on a sec :)
[12:51] <munkay> should i try those?
[12:51] <ttyfscker> keep ubuntu with a rep that its for n00bs...
[12:51] <richiefrich> KenSentMe ok thatsj what one ?
[12:51] <ttyfscker> good job noiesmo
[12:51] <richiefrich> KenSentMe ssl.conf ?
[12:52] <KenSentMe> richiefrich: it's my apache2.conf, a sites-enabled file and the error
[12:52] <zugu> andi5 > what is the file you're trying to download ?
[12:52] <noiesmo> ttyfscker, f*** *** man you don't know me I'm here everyday 4 hours min and at least 6 days a week I see what happens so what ever
[12:52] <semtecx> can somebody help me with a keyboard layout problem in X? I get always an error msg when X starts...
[12:52] <andi5> zugu: avi 1024, but i guess they all do not work for me (currently)
[12:52] <richiefrich> KenSentMe what happens if u # lines  11- 17
[12:52] <ttyfscker> noiesmo:: im here 24/7
[12:53] <ttyfscker> noiesmo:: so just drop it
[12:53] <richiefrich> KenSentMe  does it start then
[12:53] <tanlaan> are there any logs that contain what has been previously installed? i need to know what i installed along with another program.
[12:53] <Chrismo> lol 24/7
[12:53] <bigkevmcd> anybody know why they totem was "upgraded" from totem-gxine to totem-gstreamer in Dapper?
[12:53] <noiesmo> ttyfscker, ok i'll leave my system on and stay logon in just like you then im 24/7 to :)
[12:53] <nikin> i think from some way ubuntu is for noobs :D but the good way... it recognized one of my 3 Wlancard automagicaly and that is something i need, coz i have no other way to connect to internet :D
[12:53] <bigkevmcd> s/they//
[12:53] <richiefrich> tanlaan i think so  look in /var/log
[12:53] <ttyfscker> noiesmo:: just because you try to spread the word that is upheld by the ops, doesnt mean your gonna get a @ by your name.. i doubt you ever even tried automatix yourself anyway..
[12:54] <andi5> tanlaan: at least aptitude logs its actions, dunno about synaptic
[12:54] <noiesmo> ttyfscker, I do things the way the developers <noiesmo> ttyfscker, f*** *** man you don't know me I'm here everyday 4 hours min and at least 6 days a week I see what happens so what ever
[12:54] <semtecx> tanlan you can check this in synaptics by clicking on the package which you have installed an then on properties and then on installed files
[12:54] <noiesmo> oops ttyfscker soory
[12:54] <ttyfscker> haha
[12:54] <ttyfscker> braggin about your line in another chan.. how lame
[12:54] <KenSentMe> richiefrich: nope, i get the error that :443 has no virtual hosts and the same error as before
[12:55] <noiesmo> ttyfscker, no
[12:55] <richiefrich> KenSentMe # line 9 too
[12:55] <zugu> andi5 > it doesn't work for me either, I get a "connection refused" error; try to directly download the file from the links belo the torrent link
[12:55] <andi5> zugu: roger that :( i hoped i could try out bittorrent now, but hey, it does not work ;-) thanks a lot!
[12:55] <ttyfscker> noiesmo:: your not even defending a point.. so stfu already..  nobody gives a damn about the easyubuntu / automatix rival anyway..
[12:56] <KenSentMe> richiefrich: (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address [::] :443
[12:56] <richiefrich> KenSentMe ermm i can show u  mine.. but my server is on archlinux
[12:56] <richiefrich> KenSentMe but u can look at it
[12:56] <KenSentMe> richiefrich: how can i see what uses the port 443
[12:56] <Evil_Ed`> that's a secret
[12:57] <richiefrich> KenSentMe nothing should be
[12:57] <KenSentMe> richiefrich: it worked before but after a dist-upgrade i got this error
[12:57] <richiefrich> for X in inet inet6; do netstat -A $X --numeric-hosts --numeric-ports | grep -v 127.0.0.1; done;
[12:57] <richiefrich> u do that ^^
[12:57] <richiefrich> KenSentMe apache changed there config format
[12:57] <richiefrich> KenSentMe that i know
[12:58] <deep_space_9> airzer0
[12:58] <deep_space_9> airzer0
[12:58] <deep_space_9> airzer0
[12:58] <deep_space_9> airzer0
[12:58] <deep_space_9> airzer0
[12:58] <deep_space_9> airzer0
[12:58] <deep_space_9> airzer0
[12:58] <deep_space_9> airzer0
[12:58] <richiefrich> DAMN
[12:58] <deep_space_9> airzer0
[12:58] <deep_space_9> airzer0
[12:58] <KenSentMe> richiefrich: ah, but did they change it in the last 2 weeks, before i went on my vacation everything worked perfect
[12:58] <deep_space_9> airzer0
[12:58] <richiefrich> deep_space_9 STOP"
[12:58] <deep_space_9> airzer0
[12:58] <deep_space_9> airzer0
[12:58] <deep_space_9> airzer0
[12:58] <neutrinomass> !ops
[12:58] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[12:58] <deep_space_9> airzer0
[12:58] <ttyfscker> deep_space_9:: that quit working 10 yrs ago
[12:58] <deep_space_9> airzer0
[12:58] <FloK> hi all
[12:58] <deep_space_9> airzer0
[12:58] <deep_space_9> airzer0
[12:58] <deep_space_9> airzer0
[12:59] <Hobbsee> Amaranth: got him :D
[12:59] <richiefrich> Hobbsee  ty
[12:59] <Amaranth> heh
[12:59] <andi5> good catch
[12:59] <neutrinomass> ty Hobbsee Amaranth :)
[12:59] <Amaranth> I tried. :)
[12:59] <Hobbsee> richiefrich: neutrinomass  :)
[12:59] <stephane> salut la room
[12:59] <Hobbsee> Amaranth: indeed.
[12:59] <FloK> how to disable the login manager so i can boot to console? fresh 6.06 install
[12:59] <richiefrich> KenSentMe i hate to say 'yes'
[12:59] <richiefrich> KenSentMe but they did
[01:00] <FloK> i need to test 20 DVDROMs
[01:00] <snoops> ouch!
[01:00] <richiefrich> FloK have fun :P
[01:00] <stephane> quelqu'un parle franais ici?
[01:00] <incandenza> !fr
[01:00] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:00] <Amaranth> FloK: I once had to burn and label (!) 100 CDs using a single computer with one burner.
[01:00] <ttyfscker> FloK:: you need to edit your run levels and take gdm off
[01:01] <dpupp> is installing dapper over a network really complicated? i have a notebook which it's cd drive is missing and im looking at a)xp install over network b)ubuntu install over network...
[01:01] <Amaranth> Over a weekend... :/
[01:01] <richiefrich> KenSentMe  ftp://penguinslair.dyndns.org/httpd.conf
[01:01] <Amaranth> !netinstall
[01:01] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[01:01] <richiefrich> KenSentMe thats mine but as i said that on archlinux
[01:01] <redblades> dpupp GO WITh UBUNTU! FOR THE LOVE OF WHATEVER DEITY YOU WORSHIP! UBUNTU!
[01:01] <KenSentMe> richiefrich: is that apache 1?
[01:01] <richiefrich> KenSentMe nope
[01:02] <richiefrich> KenSentMe  Version        : 2.2.2-5
[01:02] <dpupp> reblades, have you ever done a network install? ...
[01:02] <richiefrich> what ver u have KenSentMe
[01:02] <KenSentMe> richiefrich: i thought because the filename was httpd.conf
[01:03] <richiefrich> no thats the arch way
[01:03] <richiefrich> it's  simpler
[01:03] <still_funny_tho> inside peanut butter outside jelly
[01:03] <richiefrich> KenSentMe  i have two configs ..  that and ssl.conf
[01:03] <Chrismo> !xgl
[01:03] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:04] <shinobi2> glxgears runs very slow, how can i accelerate the graphics?
[01:04] <richiefrich> KenSentMe there very helpful in the  #apache channel
[01:04] <shinobi2> i think i need a module for my ati card
[01:04] <KenSentMe> richiefrich: i'll try there too, thanx
[01:04] <richiefrich> KenSentMe thats all i can really suggest man.. sorry
[01:04] <redblades> Uhh... Hi, it seems that the apache build of apache doesn't have lfs
[01:04] <KenSentMe> richiefrich: no problem
[01:04] <Kibou> anyone here use ogle?
[01:05] <richiefrich> ogle rocks
[01:05] <redblades> google?
[01:05] <still_funny_tho> ack does
[01:05] <SonicChao> !anyone
[01:05] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:05] <richiefrich> dvd player
[01:05] <richiefrich> funny man on the !anyone
[01:05] <Kibou> doesn't work for me.. black screen (although it scales to te right res)
[01:06] <richiefrich> lfs ?  linux from scratch ?
[01:06] <FloK> ttyfscker, ok what runleven is default? rc3? i forgot
[01:06] <richiefrich> FloK should be
[01:07] <FloK> ok
[01:07] <redblades> So, I need a way to transport a 6GB file.
[01:07] <SonicChao> richiefrich: That ment to ask your real question...
[01:07] <SonicChao> richiefrich: It's a robot.
[01:07] <still_funny_tho> does anyone here use ubunbtu
[01:07] <redblades> I was going to use Apache and download it to another box on this network...
[01:07] <richiefrich> SonicChao i know it's funny
[01:07] <SonicChao> still_funny_tho: Almost all of us do!
[01:07] <redblades> still_funny_tho, NO NOBODY HERE EVER USES UBUNTU
[01:07] <SonicChao> !anyone > still_funny_tho
[01:07] <redblades> WE ALL HATE IT
[01:07] <SonicChao> still_funny_tho: I KNOW LOL
[01:09] <still_funny_tho> bout it bou it
[01:09] <munkay> guys, what is the procedure to connect to a wireless network?
[01:09] <guy22> lets say i want to upgrade xorg to 7.1, from dapper... how do i force the package to go up ? do i need to enable edgy repo?
[01:09] <richiefrich> shinobi2  what does fglrxinfo
[01:09] <munkay> i have the 345abg driver
[01:09] <richiefrich> say
[01:10] <MistaED> SonicChao: do you at all use direcpc with linux?
[01:10] <munkay> my card is recognized too, i've entered the ssid and the required keys
[01:10] <redblades> So, how can I transfer such a huge file?
[01:10] <redblades> over a netwoek.
[01:10] <munkay> is there any tool for gnome(i am on dapper) to facilitate this?
[01:10] <SonicChao> MistaED: Yes.
[01:10] <richiefrich> redblades scp
[01:10] <richiefrich> ftp
[01:10] <richiefrich> ?
[01:10] <redblades> !scp
[01:10] <ubotu> scp is a secure way of copying files across networks using ssh. Usage: scp filename user@host:filename - winscp is a windows scp client
[01:10] <richiefrich> comes with ssh
[01:10] <redblades> But won
[01:11] <incandenza> munkay: you should just be able to use 'administration / networking'
[01:11] <richiefrich> won what
[01:11] <MistaED> SonicChao: which driver??? :O! i attempted it awhile ago for someone and failed
[01:11] <richiefrich> redblades ?
[01:11] <richiefrich> shinobi2 ?
[01:11] <richiefrich> shinobi2 u have 3D ?
[01:11] <still_funny_tho> i have myspace
[01:11] <richiefrich> shinobi2  u  on what driver?
[01:11] <munkay> incandenza: i see the wireless connection eth1 active
[01:11] <SonicChao> MistaED: Driver? wtf?
[01:11] <still_funny_tho> wanna be my buddy
[01:11] <munkay> how do i make sure its connected??
[01:12] <SonicChao> MistaED: What system were you using?
[01:12] <still_funny_tho> tape the plug on
[01:12] <shinobi2> richiefrich: how do i check?
[01:12] <SonicChao> MistaED: The new DW6000?
[01:12] <richiefrich> still_funny_tho i think u are on the wrong channel myspace  that way -->
[01:12] <dpupp> anyone know a good site which explains rawwrite?
[01:12] <MistaED> SonicChao: oh, i take it you have the ethernet-based one? i was trying to get a usb one to work
[01:12] <incandenza> munkay: try pinging your router
[01:12] <richiefrich> shinobi2  what does fglrxinfo
[01:12] <Dodzey> munkay: just set it as the default network connection
[01:12] <protocol1> munkay, I like using network manager for my wireless
[01:12] <SonicChao> MistaED: Yes, ethernet based is what I have.
[01:12] <richiefrich> shinobi2 whats that say man ..
[01:12] <munkay> how do i set it as the default one?
[01:12] <MistaED> with an ISDN connection for the uplink (that worked fine on its own)
[01:12] <Dodzey> munkay: its in the admin >> netowrking panel
[01:13] <munkay> ok :)
[01:13] <still_funny_tho> if i have a towel on my head...that makes me?
[01:13] <SonicChao> MistaED: The USB system is old =)
[01:13] <richiefrich> in the wrong channel
[01:13] <still_funny_tho> oh
[01:13] <protocol1> still_funny_tho, american
[01:13] <still_funny_tho> what channel is this
[01:13] <protocol1> ;)
[01:13] <SonicChao> MistaED: the new systems (DW6000 and DW7000) use ethernet. =)
[01:13] <MistaED> SonicChao: telstra in australia still stock it though, :(
[01:13] <shinobi2> bash: fglrxinfo: command not found
[01:14] <SonicChao> MistaED: =(
[01:14] <richiefrich> shinobi2 then  u need ati-drivers
[01:14] <SonicChao> MistaED: I wouldn't know, I'm in the USA.
[01:14] <richiefrich> shinobi2  then u should install them :P
[01:14] <still_funny_tho> i live in africa
[01:14] <shinobi2> still_funny_tho: you are funny
[01:14] <richiefrich> i still think your in the wrong channel
[01:14] <protocol1> still_funny_tho, then it would make you a true african
[01:14] <protocol1> :)
[01:15] <KenSentMe> richiefrich: my cups webinterface was the problem
[01:15] <still_funny_tho> i thought this was windows help center
[01:15] <richiefrich> KenSentMe really
[01:15] <frogzoo> dpupp: rawwrite usually comes with a readme
[01:15] <frogzoo> still_funny_tho: wrong chan dude
[01:15] <still_funny_tho> maybe i am
[01:15] <SonicChao> MistaED: Well, that's all I can tell you. USB used to only work for PC and Mac.
[01:16] <SonicChao> MistaED: But with a little tweaking, the ethernet based systems work perfectly. =)
[01:16] <still_funny_tho> i keep getting k-lined you guys must not like me
[01:16] <shinobi2> still_funny_tho: there's no internet in africa.
[01:16] <still_funny_tho> lol
[01:16] <MistaED> SonicChao: no worries thanks anyway, i almost got a free driver off sourceforge to go, i could get signal readings and stuff to work
[01:17] <windmill> the Synaptics touchpad on my laptop lost it's scroll area when I upgraded to 6.06, why is it stuff that did work breaks in later versions?
[01:17] <frogzoo> still_funny_tho: this cnan is for ubuntu support, not random chat
[01:17] <shinobi2> still_funny_tho: internet is only available in deep space.
[01:17] <SonicChao> MistaED: Oh, alright.
[01:17] <still_funny_tho> awww just a lil chit chat
[01:17] <richiefrich> like i saidk
[01:17] <still_funny_tho> dont be mad :(
[01:17] <richiefrich> wrong channel
[01:17] <munkay> is there some tool to see available wireless networks ??
[01:18] <still_funny_tho> what channel should i go to
[01:18] <frogzoo> still_funny_tho: dude, this is why you get k-lined - just so's you know
[01:18] <SonicChao> munkay: Yup.
[01:18] <SonicChao> munkay: Gnome or KDE?
[01:18] <cydork> munkey: it's called iwlist scan
[01:18] <munkay> Gnome
[01:18] <frogzoo> munkay: kismet's best
[01:18] <cydork> :)
[01:18] <still_funny_tho> i wasn't aware of that
[01:18] <still_funny_tho> thank you
[01:18] <SonicChao> munkay: Ok, look in "Add/Remove" for "Network Manager"
[01:18] <lhds> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? what to answer to that?
[01:18] <frogzoo> munkay: wifi-radar has its uses too
[01:18] <SonicChao> munkay: Because I don't know the exact name to use in the terminal at the moment. =(
[01:19] <munkay> you guys know a lot :O
[01:19] <munkay> cydork tried that, works like a charm :)
[01:19] <lhds> hey guys
[01:19] <lhds> guyyyyyyyyyyyys
[01:19] <lhds> hellooo
[01:19] <sage> hi
[01:19] <richiefrich> ?
[01:19] <Kleine1> Hi@all!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:19] <SonicChao> lhds: If no one knows, they won't answer you.
[01:19] <cydork> munkay, i know i use it everyday :P
[01:19] <richiefrich> lhds we could all be women
[01:20] <sage> i want to install oracle 10 g on ubuntu, but i have a error ins_sysman.mk
[01:20] <lhds> ./damn
[01:20] <incandenza> lhds: /usr/include/linux
[01:20] <Kleine1> HI @ ALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:20] <still_funny_tho> is it not funny
[01:20] <richiefrich>  obnoxious
[01:21] <sage> "/libnls10.a(lmsagb.o): In function `lmsagbcmt':lmsagb.c:(.text+0xa3): undefined reference to `SltsPrRead'"
[01:21] <sage> arfff
[01:21] <lhds> __ usr/linux/include its there
[01:21] <Kleine1> IS HERE SOMEONE HOW WANT TO WRITE WITH ME I COME FROM GERMANY
[01:22] <still_funny_tho> just because i am not as smart as all of you do not mean i cant come here and talk
[01:22] <incandenza> sage: installing oracle?
[01:22] <sage> incandenza yes
[01:23] <still_funny_tho> im a n00b so what we all have to start somewhere
[01:24] <still_funny_tho> hey seveas what's up
[01:24] <still_funny_tho> i talked to you yesterday
[01:25] <incandenza> sage: heh, just guessing based on the first google hit...  although here's a page where someone seemed to have the same problem: http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=347951&tstart=45&start=0
[01:25] <Kleine1> IS HERE SOMEONE HOW WANT TO CHAT WITH A GIRL FROM GERMANZ
[01:25] <still_funny_tho> i do
[01:26] <sage> incandenza there on hours i searching on google :p
[01:26] <still_funny_tho> i like german poon
[01:26] <incandenza> apparently the caps lock key is not yet available in germany
[01:26] <still_funny_tho> lol
[01:26] <sage> incandenza for the g++ and gcc i try id, it don't run
[01:27] <incandenza> sage: hmm, never tried to install it before myself, so I really don't know
[01:28] <sage> incandenza I already installed it, and it is a bond on a librairy 5 but I know more which
[01:29] <frogzoo> is there a command to dump all users with samba passwds?
[01:29] <jimcooncat> link please to recommended sources.list?
[01:29] <Seveas> !sources > jimcooncat
[01:30] <munkay> guys, i have some ntfs windows partitions on my hdd..
[01:30] <jimcooncat> ty Seveas, I had it wrong
[01:30] <still_funny_tho> airzer0 was here
[01:30] <still_funny_tho> airzer0 was here
[01:30] <still_funny_tho> airzer0 was here
[01:30] <still_funny_tho> airzer0 was here
[01:30] <still_funny_tho> airzer0 was here
[01:30] <still_funny_tho> airzer0 was here
[01:30] <still_funny_tho> airzer0 was here
[01:30] <munkay> my current mount options are defaults,user
[01:30] <frogzoo> munkay: my commiserations
[01:30] <still_funny_tho> airzer0 was here
[01:30] <still_funny_tho> airzer0 was here
[01:30] <still_funny_tho> airzer0 was here
[01:30] <frogzoo> still_funny_tho: was the operative tense
[01:30] <still_funny_tho> airzer0 was here
[01:30] <still_funny_tho> airzer0 was here
[01:30] <still_funny_tho> airzer0 was here
[01:30] <still_funny_tho> airzer0 was here
[01:30] <munkay> however, normal users can't access the mounted partitions
[01:30] <munkay> how do i make it accessible to all users ??
[01:31] <frogzoo> munkay: cos of your mount options exclude them...
[01:31] <olwd> how do i mount my new harddrive, it's connected to my IDE controller.
[01:31] <frogzoo> !ntfs > munkay
[01:31] <frogzoo> olwd: partition, format, update /etc/fstab; sudo mount -a
[01:32] <olwd> frogzoo: how do i know if i installed it correctly
[01:34] <consentm> it will be- olwd- just try ls /dev/hd(press tab) to see all the IDE drives
[01:34] <consentm> or i think fdisk -l should also do the the trick
[01:34] <chrismo> !xgl
[01:34] <richiefrich> yet another one --> http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=3670 <--  how sad old men have to sue eveyone
[01:34] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:35] <ubuntu_> what do i type to mount a hard drive?
[01:35] <frogzoo> olwd: if it shows up in mount & you can access it, you're good
[01:35] <ubuntu_> partition even
[01:35] <olwd> frogzoo: ok, i see that harddrive i installed
[01:35] <olwd> Disk /dev/hde: 4311 MB, 4311982080 bytes
[01:35] <olwd> 240 heads, 63 sectors/track, 557 cylinders
[01:35] <olwd> Units = cylinders of 15120 * 512 = 7741440 bytes
[01:36] <olwd> that's it ^
[01:36] <frogzoo> olwd: please don't paste in chan - use pastebin
[01:36] <frogzoo> !pastebin > olwd
[01:36] <olwd> frogzoo: it's 3 lines
[01:36] <olwd> flooding is 4+
[01:36] <FatalCure> phreak97, GUI - 'gksudo gparted', CLI - 'cfdisk'
[01:36] <FatalCure> *sudo cfdisk
[01:36] <pepitolospalotes> hi
[01:36] <frogzoo> olwd: pasting is right out, that's the policy
[01:37] <munkay> thansk for the help guys! ciao!! :)
[01:37] <phreak97> FatalCure, im quite sure that isnt what i've done in the past
[01:38] <pepitolospalotes> I'm having some trouble on playing mp3, i have installed all whats in restrictedformats page and aslo used automatix but mp3s keep unplayable, even mpg321 can't. The problem is that it says no error, it thinks he has played that thing anyway, does anyone know what happens?
[01:38] <FatalCure> phreak97, well there are other ways
[01:38] <frogzoo> olwd: so looks like the disk isn't partitioned yet, consider first how  you want to slice up the space
[01:39] <[icu] > how do i install xchat on ubuntu?
[01:39] <olwd> i want the whole drive for storage
[01:39] <richiefrich> [icu]   sudo apt-get install xchat
[01:40] <olwd> frogzoo: but it's FAT32-formatted though?
[01:40] <frogzoo> so 'sudo fdisk /dev/hde'
[01:40] <redblades> Hi, I was using putty on a windows box, and I am trying to use scp to copy a file from the box I'm logged into, to the one, I'm phsycally sitting in front off.
[01:40] <redblades> of
[01:40] <frogzoo> olwd: is there data on it you need? or reformat's cool?
[01:40] <phreak97> FatalCure, in the gui, wheres the option to mount the partitions? i dont want to format them, i want to use them
[01:41] <redblades> How do I do this? I can't work out the syntax...
[01:41] <olwd> frogzoo: yeah
[01:41] <Ronz> whats the name of the lib to get mp3 / mp4 working in amarok?
[01:41] <pepitolospalotes> redblades, you have to use scp from outside putty
[01:41] <olwd> frogzoo: i mean no, i don't need any data
[01:41] <pepitolospalotes> Ronz, that is my problem aslo
[01:41] <olwd> frogzoo: so formatting would be coo
[01:41] <olwd> l
[01:41] <pepitolospalotes> i thought it was amarok-xine
[01:41] <FatalCure> phreak97, aah, in the confusion of your partition, i thought you wanted to _partition_ a disk.  Try System -> Administration -> Disks
[01:42] <Ronz> pepitolospalotes, remembered it. libmad0
[01:42] <FatalCure> s/partition/posts/
[01:42] <Ronz> i think
[01:42] <pepitolospalotes> oh
[01:42] <reza1990> hi
[01:42] <frogzoo> olwd: ok, this will delete the ENTIRE DISK - so be sure this is the right disk       'sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/hde'
[01:42] <AdmX> Good Morning from Marietta, GA (USA)
[01:43] <pepitolospalotes> Ronz, already in
[01:43] <frogzoo> olwd: soz, that's wrong
[01:43] <frogzoo> olwd: ok, this will delete the ENTIRE DISK - so be sure this is the right disk       'sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/hde1'
[01:43] <frogzoo> olwd: that should work
[01:43] <olwd> frogzoo: the drive is not ext3 though
[01:43] <PaoloC> I cannot upgrade to edgy, update-manager -c -d exit with "can't find DistUpgradeViewGtk". Any hiny?
[01:43] <pepitolospalotes> Ronz, any other idea?
[01:43] <frogzoo> olwd: that command will format it as ext3
[01:43] <Ronz> pepitolospalotes, had it working before. just forgot the name of the library
[01:44] <pepitolospalotes> PaoloC, do it by hand, and change every dapper to edgy on /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:44] <AdmX> Anyone know the time ubuntu-classroom starts in EST?
[01:44] <pepitolospalotes> Ronz liblame?
[01:44] <FatalCure> AdmX, http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html
[01:44] <reza1990> matlab chist
[01:44] <AdmX> Thanks
[01:45] <FatalCure> yw
[01:45] <gimmulf> Hi, is there any tool to use if i want to stream a part of my screen over the network to an OSX based computer? :)
[01:45] <olwd> frogzoo: can you take a look at this: http://hustlin.allnight.nl:31337/fdisk.txt
[01:45] <pepitolospalotes> gimmulf, vnc ?
[01:46] <reza1990> yes
[01:46] <gimmulf> pepitolospalotes:  will check it out
[01:46] <gimmulf> thanks
[01:46] <olwd> frogzoo: i wanna know which one to format/delete
[01:47] <frogzoo> olwd: well only looking at your output, I can't tell what's on those disks - that's your job
[01:47] <[icu] > where can I learn how to install xchat on ubuntu?
[01:47] <reza1990> yes i can
[01:48] <A[D] minS> now i want to compile last release from xcha so how i can install all depends packages ? i think it was something like xchat-dep
[01:48] <olwd> the last one is the 'new' harddrive
[01:48] <olwd> /dev/hde1
[01:48] <reza1990> get from site
[01:48] <olwd> but which one to format though? /dev/hde1 or /dev/hde ?
[01:48] <frogzoo> olwd: really, if i was you, I'd double check that theory first 'sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hde1 /mnt'   & see what's in /mnt
[01:48] <FatalCure> A[D] minS, sudo apt-get build-dep xchat
[01:49] <A[D] minS> aha thats it :D
[01:49] <jimmy89> hey guys
[01:49] <A[D] minS> thx FatalCure
[01:49] <FatalCure> A[D] minS, np
[01:49] <jimmy89> is ipv6 the reason why ubuntu is taking a while to lookup ip addresses?
[01:49] <Hobbsee> [icu] : please dont do that
[01:49] <the_Cat\> [icu] ..
[01:49] <frogzoo> jimmy89: firefox?
[01:50] <olwd> /dev/hde1     vfat    4.0G  389M  3.7G  10% /mnt
[01:50] <olwd> frogzoo: nothing on it
[01:50] <jimmy89> frogzoo: Actually what i mean to say is that it sometimes cuts out
[01:50] <frogzoo> olwd: now take a look around /mnt & double check that this is the disk you think it is
[01:50] <broooe> hi. i'm trying to set up firewall using firestarter, i done everyting as said in manual but it blocks all my network traffic. Why? I'm getting this in the output:
[01:50] <broooe> Inbound IN=ppp0 OUT= MAC= SRC=83.27.5.230 DST=83.27.33.130 LEN=48 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=127 ID=39622 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=1333 DPT=445 WINDOW=16384 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
[01:50] <jimmy89> frogzoo: i am going over wireless, however i have never had that problem in windows, and the wireless AP is 5m away
[01:51] <olwd> frogzoo: yup, it is the disk
[01:51] <olwd> frogzoo: and i know because it's 4GB, and that's the size of it
[01:52] <windmill> Does anyone else find that she "shared folders" smb gui thing just won't create a viewable share?
[01:52] <amee2k> hi all
[01:53] <jimmy89> anyone know why downloads etc cut in and out, and just general web browsing sometimes cuts in and out
[01:53] <[icu] > please someone tell me where I can learn how to install xchat 2.6.6 on ubuntu
[01:54] <windmill> jimmy89, that's a very general question, it could be any number of things but is most likely to be a network problem
[01:54] <noiesmo> [icu] , http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[01:54] <amee2k> i'm on ubuntu 6.06 x86 and trying to burn the ubuntu PPC32 ISO which is 701.1MB big. when doing right-click, "write to disk" on the file, it doesn't accept any of my blank 700MB CD-Rs. how can i make it burn an oversize image?
[01:54] <FatalCure> jimmy89, you would try this ...
[01:54] <FatalCure> !ipv6
[01:54] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[01:55] <frogzoo> jimmy89: in ff's location, enter "about:config"   find 'network.dns.disable.ipv6'  set to true
[01:56] <olwd> frogzoo: you still there?
[01:56] <broooe> !help
[01:56] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[01:56] <phreak97> apparently im not the owner of my fat32 or reiserfs partitions when im in the livecd, how can i use them anyway?
[01:56] <olwd> frogzoo: i tried "sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/hde1" but it says: sudo: mkfs.ext3: command not found
[01:56] <phreak97> i need to be logged in as root/root
[01:56] <phreak97> how do i do that?
[01:56] <frogzoo> olwd: umount /mnt ; sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/hde1
[01:56] <amee2k> any ideas?
[01:57] <jimmy89> frogzoo: if it is a network problem  it is only in ubuntu
[01:57] <frogzoo> jimmy89: ^^^
[01:57] <olwd> frogzoo: i think it's formatting now
[01:57] <jimmy89> would that be the cause for say downloads through synaptic package manager though
[01:58] <frogzoo> jimmy89: no, ff only
[01:58] <olwd> frogzoo: it's done
[01:58] <FatalCure> jimmy89, try the factoid ubotu spat out above
[01:58] <FatalCure> !ipv6
[01:58] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[01:58] <frogzoo> olwd: mount -t ext3 /dev/hde1 /mnt
[01:58] <olwd> frogzoo: why /mnt ?
[01:59] <frogzoo> olwd: or wherever
[01:59] <reza1990> buy buy im not understand
[01:59] <valehru> I was looking through my services and I found Stacheldraht on 60001....isnt this a DDOS BOT?
[01:59] <jimmy89> frogzoo
[01:59] <jimmy89> frogzoo: link dosnt work
[01:59] <olwd> frogzoo: so it can be anything right? what about /storage?
[01:59] <frogzoo> olwd: mkdir /storage
[02:00] <r000t> does someone here know anything of apache2 in ubuntu
[02:00] <FatalCure> jimmy89, it should redirect to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[02:00] <jimmy89> FatalCure: TY
[02:00] <FatalCure> r000t, just ask, if someone knows they'll answer
[02:01] <david__> how do i reboot to ubuntu after a windows xp install?
[02:01] <olwd> frogzoo: where should i make that dir?
[02:01] <FatalCure> jimmy89, np (i was starting to think i was invisible) :)
[02:01] <Warbo> !grub > david__
[02:01] <frogzoo> olwd: well /storage   would make it /storage
[02:01] <DarkMageZ> hi, how can i look at what another user logged onto my system via ssh is doing?
[02:01] <frogzoo> olwd: you can put it anywhere you like really
[02:01] <olwd> frogzoo: i know, but i mean where? in "/" or?
[02:02] <frogzoo> olwd: /storage is perfectly fine
[02:02] <r000t> i need some specific documentation for apache2 in ubuntu nothing is as it says that it should be, even the documentation provided with it is wrong
[02:02] <ucordes> anybody downloading on irc here? i'm looking for an xchat extension which allows me to automatically list xdcc offers.
[02:02] <FatalCure> DarkMageZ, ps auxw | grep username
[02:02] <jimmy89> FatalCure: You were :p going to restart so ty
[02:02] <olwd> ok
[02:02] <olwd> what do i do now
[02:03] <frogzoo> olwd: now edit /etc/fstab & create a new line for /storage - use, say, /home for a template
[02:03] <aeon17x> !gnome-screensaver
[02:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about gnome-screensaver - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:04] <Warbo> !info gnome-screensaver
[02:04] <ubotu> gnome-screensaver: a screen saver and locker. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.14.3-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1449 kB, installed size 3380 kB
[02:04] <ucordes> olwd: fstab is a fine thing. you can happily mount everything you like
[02:04] <ucordes> anybody downloading on irc here? i'm looking for an xchat extension which allows me to automatically list xdcc offers.
[02:04] <|thunder> how do I add the "add/remove programs" option to other users gnome sessions ?
[02:05] <Warbo> |thunder: They must be in the "admin" group, to let them edit the system
[02:05] <olwd> frogzoo: im new to this, i don't know which one is which
[02:05] <DarkMageZ> FatalCure, ah, that's cool. but i was hoping more along the lines of watching the terminal
[02:05] <olwd> for example: # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[02:05] <amee2k> to repeat myself... i'm on ubuntu 6.06 x86 and trying to burn the ubuntu PPC32 ISO which is 701.1MB big. when doing right-click, "write to disk" on the file, it doesn't accept any of my blank 700MB CD-Rs. how can i make it burn an oversized image?
[02:05] <frogzoo> /dev/hde1       /storage           ext3    defaults        0       2
[02:06] <|thunder> thanks Warbo
[02:06] <Warbo> |thunder: System>Administration>Users And Groups, make sure they are allowed to "execute system tasks" or something
[02:06] <FatalCure> DarkMageZ, yep, i did think so, but that's the best i know of :|
[02:06] <DarkMageZ> FatalCure, thanks anyways
[02:07] <olwd> frogzoo: ok, now that
[02:07] <Howitzer> Does anyone know if there is a Firefox extension that enables search prefixes in the location bar? (EX: typing 'google: -string-' would use google to search for -string-, typing 'wikipedia: -string-' would search wikipedia for that string, ....
[02:07] <jimmy89> ok back, still cuts in and out when doing updates
[02:07] <frogzoo> olwd: umount /storage ; mount -a ; mount |grep storage
[02:07] <|thunder> i see it, thanks again Warbo
[02:07] <frogzoo> olwd: sudo umount /storage ; sudo mount -a ; mount |grep storage
[02:08] <amee2k> Howitzer: the vanilla Mozilla has something like that for google...
[02:08] <olwd> frogzoo: what about "/mnt", didn't i mount that?
[02:08] <frogzoo> olwd: sudo umount /storage ; sudo mount -a ; mount |grep storage
[02:08] <Howitzer> the Seamonky suite?
[02:08] <|thunder> wow, you can block users from using video acceleration.   queer
[02:08] <olwd> umount: /storage: not mounted
[02:09] <frogzoo> olwd: sudo umount /mnt ; sudo mount -a ; mount |grep storage
[02:09] <jimmy89> changing subject, what is the correct way to install flash support for firefox?
[02:09] <olwd> /dev/hde1 on /storage type ext3 (rw)
[02:09] <olwd> :D
[02:09] <|thunder> i heard automatix works swell on 32-bit
[02:09] <jimmy89> and is there a hacked linux version of the latest flash?
[02:10] <|thunder> ...jimmy89
[02:10] <FloK> just for the record: i edited grub.conf to boot into single user runlevel
[02:10] <frogzoo> olwd: now you probly want to set permissions & maybe change owner on the directory /storage
[02:10] <FloK> ok bye all, have a nice day!
[02:10] <Warbo> jimmy89: WINE can run it I think, that is sort of a hack :)
[02:10] <frogzoo> olwd: ls -ld /storage
[02:10] <olwd> frogzoo: i want the 'root' to be the owner, soo ill just 'sudo' everytime i access it
[02:10] <frogzoo> olwd: k, then you're good to go
[02:10] <Ronz> hey, who was looking for the mp3 playback in amarok?
[02:10] <windmill> arrgh I don't understand why my samba share won't work
[02:11] <jimmy89> rofl true, but there is no latest flash player support?
[02:11] <|thunder> why does no one use su - anymore
[02:11] <olwd> frogzoo: well, thank you very much
[02:11] <frogzoo> olwd: yw, enjoy
[02:11] <olwd> frogzoo: i appreciate your time
[02:11] <olwd> :D
[02:11] <Warbo> jimmy89: Not natively in Linux, but you can install Windows Firefox in WINE
[02:11] <|thunder> nope, only up to flasah 7. no 9
[02:11] <Warbo> jimmy89: It runs slowly for me, and that is without Flash
[02:11] <Ronz> ok: whoever i was talking to about a half hour ago, the package is libxine-extracodecs
[02:12] <micahcowan> |thunder, linux users in general still use it. On ubuntu, it's generally not used, as there is no root password, by default.
[02:12] <jimmy89> hmm
[02:12] <|thunder> ahh, sudo passwd is the first command i run when the live cd boots
[02:12] <jimmy89> ok, with flash 7, what is the correct way to install it?
[02:12] <jimmy89> cause i have killed my firefox trying it once before
[02:12] <|thunder> join #automatix
[02:13] <micahcowan> |thunder I so rarely ever use su anyway: sudo suffices for anything I need to do.
[02:13] <|thunder> thats the easy way on x86 processors
[02:13] <Warbo> I installed flashplugin-nonfree, but it hasn't worked :(
[02:13] <micahcowan> and sudo -i does the same thing, without the need for a different p/w.
[02:13] <|thunder> some times I just keep root in tty6
[02:14] <Warbo> I used to use a Debian repository which had actually packaged the player, not just a script, but I think that repo is gone now, and I had to reinstall Ubuntu
[02:14] <micahcowan> Ah! yes, for that you'd want a root password. :-)
[02:14] <FuriousRage> isnt this supposed to make my group specified rw access too?  rw,exec,uid=1000,gid=1002,auto (in fstab)
[02:14] <micahcowan> I generally try to avoid leaving any root shell open for long periods, though...
[02:14] <FatalCure> why?  just login then 'sudo -i'
[02:14] <|thunder> ohh, i didnt know of the -i option
[02:15] <micahcowan> FatalCure, yeah, but it's extra steps...
[02:15] <Warbo> I use "sudo -s -H", I just [refer it for some reason
[02:15] <Ronz> |thunder, that gives ya a root terminal
[02:15] <Warbo> *prefer
[02:15] <FatalCure> aah,  yes laziness,  fair enough then ;p
[02:15] <rindolf> Hi all.
[02:15] <Warbo> hello
[02:15] <rindolf> I'm using Ubuntu breezy.
[02:15] <|thunder> i only do it when i need su alot.. ill try those in the future. for saftey sake
[02:15] <rindolf> Is the default editor joe instead of vim?
[02:15] <FuriousRage> isnt this supposed to make my group specified rw access too?  rw,exec,uid=1000,gid=1002,auto (in fstab) now it shows as: drwxr-xr-x
[02:15] <micahcowan> Warbo: that's probably closer to how the shell is invoked by (say) xterm, anyway (which isn't a login shell)
[02:16] <jimmy89> so how to people get flash support in the standard firefox?
[02:16] <Warbo> rindolf: I think it is nano
[02:16] <rindolf> Warbo: hmmm...
[02:16] <rindolf> Warbo: what are we? Gentoo?
[02:16] <Warbo> I HATE vi, and I like nano
[02:16] <Konstable> I have hardly anythign running (Opera browser where I'm typing this now, aMsn, SciTE text editor, and a Konsole window).  But when I go to "free" it tells me I only have 60MB of free RAM (out of 512MB)   on Windows I generally have around 250 to 300MB  free with the same usage!!!  A friend on Debian running about the same tells me he has about 250MB right now.  Is there something wrong with my Ubuntu or is a general thing?
[02:16] <rindolf> Warbo: I don't. At least not in WinEmu mode.
[02:17] <stefg> Konstable: Linux is very samrt in that it uses free Ram as buffers and cache, so that's perfect
[02:17] <void^> Konstable: are you looking at the "-/+ buffers/cache" line?
[02:17] <FuriousRage> isnt this supposed to make my group specified rw access too?  rw,exec,uid=1000,gid=1002,auto (in fstab) now it shows as: drwxr-xr-x
[02:17] <micahcowan> Warbo, yes, vi sucks, but vim rocks.
[02:17] <Warbo> rindolf: Someone changed a Wiki page I wrote a while ago and put in vi instead of nano, but I had to change it back the other day when someone told me they had screwed up /etc/modules with vi :)
[02:17] <micahcowan> And AFAICT, both are better than nano. :-) (but, they have learning curves...)
[02:18] <Konstable> viod^: I"m looking under the line that says "Mem" under the "Free" column
[02:18] <easytiger> Hi.. i have a nVidia Corporation NV34GL [Quadro NVS 280 PCI]  (rev a1) but the standard install instructions for nvidia drivers don't work. any ideas?
[02:18] <|thunder> yep. stefg, hence the 'sync' command
[02:18] <|thunder> try the legacy drivers
[02:18] <easytiger> it just bombs out saying no screens found
[02:18] <|thunder> easy ubuntu has both standard and legacy
[02:18] <micahcowan> Warbo, I don't see how it's any harder to screw up /etc/modules with nano...
[02:18] <Howitzer> Heeeey
[02:18] <Konstable> void^, stefg,  Ah I get it thanks.
[02:18] <easytiger> |thunder: my card is on the standard list
[02:18] <Warbo> I always used module-assistant to install nvidia driver
 module assistant?
[02:19] <frogzoo> Warbo: noobs are all at sea with vi - if someone want to use vi, they will
[02:19] <Howitzer> Ubuntu is Wikipedia's *Today's featured article* !
[02:19] <Zyfo> Xchat: /MSG Q@CServe.quakenet.org AUTH ZyF0 <PASSWORD>,//mode $me +x <- That is what I've got in "server commands" in qnet, and it doesn't seem to work. What's the proper way to type 2 commands?
[02:19] <stefg> _Free_ Ram is good for nothing... so the Kernel puts it to use
[02:19] <Warbo> micahcowan: He was confused over the Insert, and overwriting stuff. I must admit I thought vi was an absolute nightmare until I found out about pressing :
[02:20] <Warbo> !info module-assistant
[02:20] <ubotu> module-assistant: tool to make module package creation easier. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.10.2 (dapper), package size 72 kB, installed size 368 kB
[02:20] <FuriousRage> isnt this supposed to make my group specified rw access too?  rw,exec,uid=1000,gid=1002,auto (in fstab) now it shows as: drwxr-xr-x
[02:20] <|thunder> this makes my gforce6200 work 100% "sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-glx"
[02:20] <micahcowan> Warbo, yeah, it's hardly intuitive. The mode-oriented stuff is not the way people are used to thinking about things.
[02:20] <Warbo> If installing nvidia-glx you must have the linux-restricted-modules installed, or else it will install a -386 kernel
[02:21] <frogzoo> FuriousRage: hard to say, depends which file system
[02:21] <noiesmo> also for nvidia I use linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[02:21] <|thunder> Furious, is your group 1002 ?
[02:21] <FuriousRage> frogzoo: : vfat at that current one, and 1002 is a special group i only allow 2 users to get RW access to.
[02:22] <FuriousRage> the group and owner are set correct but, its only RW for the owned but not group according to ls -al
[02:22] <|thunder>  rw,exec,gid=1002,auto try this just those. naything under 1002 will have same perms
[02:22] <|thunder> if memory serves
[02:23] <frogzoo> FuriousRage: try adding umask=007
[02:24] <frogzoo> FuriousRage: soz, should be umask=0007
[02:24] <|thunder> Ex-Chat ?
[02:25] <malte`> |thunder, it's the xchat-gnome's default quit message
[02:25] <malte`> don't know why anyway :?
[02:25] <|thunder> lol
[02:25] <Howitzer> Ex-X-chat
[02:25] <satya> hi
[02:25] <Howitzer> malte`, you don't know?
[02:26] <Howitzer> Ex is for -used to be-
[02:26] <malte`> so, "used to be chat"?
[02:26] <Howitzer> she's my ex-wife => she -used to be- my wife
[02:26] <Howitzer> :D
[02:26] <malte`> yes, i know that :) i'm italian and i've studied latin
[02:26] <abhinay> hi there !
[02:26] <Howitzer> it comes from Latin
[02:26] <Howitzer> :/
[02:27] <roberto> cerco programma per istallare hp1350 in linux
[02:27] <satya> i v a problem with unrar
[02:27] <Howitzer> satya, what prob?
[02:27] <malte`> roberto, join #ubuntu-it or write in english here
[02:28] <sheers> Hello pessoal
[02:28] <sheers> preciso de ajuda
[02:28] <satya> i dont use unrar
[02:28] <Furbot> hmm, lost the ip
[02:28] <ezzyfish> hm, network does not start @boottime. I cannot see a link to /etc/init.d/networking in the rcx.d directories...
[02:28] <ezzyfish> I tried to add a link, but it didnt start as well...
[02:29] <Warbo> ezzyfish: update-rc.d makes those links, see if that helps
[02:29] <ezzyfish> Warbo: wow, thx :) didn't know that
[02:29] <sheers> how it is that I can create one password for ROOT?
[02:29] <Warbo> ezzyfish: Bit of a dodgy syntax though
[02:29] <satya> no
[02:29] <malc_> I have a 3 button mouse (two button plus scroll wheel).  I can scroll up and down with the scroll, but I can't click down with it on say a web page and hover down the page.  Anyone know how I fix this?
[02:29] <FuriousRage> |thunder: still only getting rx for group with your suggestion
[02:29] <Jack_Sparrow> !sudo > sheers
[02:29] <Warbo> sheers: Why?
[02:29] <ezzyfish> Warbo: will work I think :)
[02:29] <|thunder> sry
[02:30] <Warbo> malc_: That may have a Firefox extension (it is not the default action in Ubuntu)
[02:30] <sheers> !sudo
[02:30] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:30] <satya> how use a .torrent
[02:30] <thirdalbum> Warbo: It does that on my stock Firefox
[02:30] <Warbo> satya: Double click on it
[02:30] <sheers> the password is incorrect
[02:31] <sheers> in Terminal
[02:31] <sheers> I execute command Su and password
[02:31] <thirdalbum> Warbo: I mean my repository dapper Firefox
[02:31] <Jack_Sparrow> sheers: do you have more than one user in your system
[02:31] <Warbo> sheers: For sudo? Use you own user password
[02:31] <sheers> No seur
[02:31] <Jack_Sparrow> sudo su
[02:31] <Warbo> sheers: Su is disabled for regular users. If you want to use su then do it with sudo :)
[02:31] <sheers> Ok
[02:31] <sheers> thanks
[02:31] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[02:32] <Warbo> thirdalbum: Oh, well I don't often use Firefox
[02:32] <sheers> su functions sudo: D.
[02:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Morning Warbo.. :)
[02:32] <Warbo> I'll try it on mine...
[02:32] <Warbo> Jack_Sparrow: Hi
[02:32] <sheers> I need to install drivers Nvidia
[02:32] <satya> ok
[02:32] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati
[02:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:32] <thirdalbum> malc_: Does it work when you click both buttons?
[02:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Gotta love that bot
[02:32] <sheers> how it is that I can make to install drivers of the nvidia?
[02:32] <cwraig_> i used sudo passwd root
[02:33] <cwraig_> and that turned the root account on so you can just su to root
[02:33] <Jack_Sparrow> sheers, that link will do it, which nv card?
[02:33] <FuriousRage> |thunder: : ah got it, i removed rw,exec and replace it with umask=0007 instead, now group and users got rw/exec
[02:33] <malc_> thirdalbum: nope
[02:33] <Warbo> Middle click does nothing for me in Firefox (even holding it and dragging)
[02:33] <malc_> Warbo:  I will have a look, thanks
[02:33] <|thunder> sheers, this makes my gforce6200 work 100% "sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-glx"
[02:34] <|thunder> awesome,..   good work
[02:34] <frogzoo> cwraig_: be aware that with a root passwd, if you leave ssh open, nasty people only need to guest your passwd, not the username
[02:34] <sheers> My nvidia is Sparkle Geforce 6800
[02:34] <frogzoo> *guess*
[02:34] <lhds> i have a Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.06GHz so is it 386 or 486?
[02:34] <|thunder> that'll work like a charm
[02:34] <thirdalbum> malc_: Can you middle-click in any other program? (for instance, middle-drag in Nautilus)?
[02:34] <Warbo> lhds: 686
[02:34] <thirdalbum> malc_: Because I'm thinking it could be your Xorg configuration
[02:34] <frogzoo> |thunder: optimally you want the 686 kernel
[02:34] <malc_> thirdalbum: nope
[02:34] <sheers> I ask for to excuse for being a bit noob in this, and for my English.
[02:34] <lhds> in menuconfig its not listed
[02:34] <Jack_Sparrow> sheers: follow jthunders advice
[02:34] <lhds> there is no 686
[02:35] <|thunder> ya ?    is there a different 64 bit version of the ndivia drivers ?
[02:35] <Warbo> !info linux-image-686
[02:35] <ubotu> linux-image-686: Linux kernel image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.6.15.24 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[02:35] <frogzoo> !info linux-686
[02:35] <ubotu> linux-686: Complete Linux kernel on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.. In repository restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.15.24 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[02:35] <nassif> hi all.. i dist-upgraded from breezy to dapper and then left the system unattended. one hour later i came back and there was the message that i should run "dpkg --configure -a" but that returns http://rafb.net/paste/results/IDwTyi24.html - any ideas?
[02:35] <Dimitrije> Why isn't there kylix for download in repositoryes?
[02:35] <Warbo> Well I don't use the meta-packages anyway :)
[02:36] <|thunder> yep,"sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-glx" never let me down.   openGL works like a charm
[02:36] <sheers> I try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:36] <sheers> Ok
[02:36] <smith88> What is the most reliable architecture of kernel to use an AMD Athlon 2800+ in 32 bit mode? I have tried 386, 686 and k7, but it appears that 386 is the most stable. Does that sound right?
[02:36] <frogzoo> smith88: linux-686
[02:36] <smith88> thanks
[02:36] <neutrinomass> smith88: you shouldn't be having stability problems with the other kernels - if you do, it's a bug :)
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> nassif:  sorry.. I speak english
[02:37] <Warbo> nassif: If I understood that German correctly, it couldn't install ubuntu-minimal because of a PCMCIA package. If you are not on a laptop then just remove ubuntu-minimal
[02:37] <neutrinomass> smith88: Although AFAIK the k7 is 64 bit ...
[02:37] <smith88> neutrinomass: i actually think the stability issues must be hardware related. Thanks for the help
[02:37] <mjr> neutrinomass, nope, it's 32-bit
[02:37] <lhds> ubotu: what does that package provides?
[02:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about what does that package provides? - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:37] <neutrinomass> mjr: Ok, thanks
[02:37] <abhinay> when i resume from hybernate i got this message "HAL failed to Hybernate" , anything wrong with this ?
[02:37] <Warbo> I use k7 on 32bit, I thought k8 was 64bit?
[02:37] <anny> hello i v  a little problem with bit torrent
[02:37] <frogzoo> neutrinomass: exactly - the k7 kernel is fine, the 'issue' is the 64 bit apps
[02:37] <mjr> Warbo, yeah
[02:37] <anny> how use the sofware
[02:38] <frogzoo> Warbo: k7 is 32bit really? then what's the a64 kernel?
[02:38] <neutrinomass> frogzoo: Which is also a bug and should be reported :) 64-bit is rather OK nowadays isn't it (besides flash and weird multimedia stuff )
[02:38] <Warbo> anny: Just double click on a .torrent file and it will act like a regular download
[02:38] <frogzoo> !info linux-k8
[02:38] <ubotu> Package linux-k8 does not exist in dapper
[02:38] <frogzoo> !info linux-k7
[02:38] <ubotu> linux-k7: Complete Linux kernel on AMD K7.. In repository restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.15.24 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[02:38] <Warbo> !info linux-amd64
[02:38] <ubotu> Package linux-amd64 does not exist in dapper
[02:39] <Warbo> dammit
[02:39] <anny> ok but i have a ubuntu
[02:39] <nassif> Jack_Sparrow: Warbo: it looks like, there is a bit more "damaged". http://rafb.net/paste/results/g8nmlc17.html
[02:40] <FuriousRage> eh not i got another poroblem. my current user who IS in the amountgrp that has rwx in /media/freenet cannot cd into it, and ive made 100% sure the user is in the group..
[02:40] <anny>  warbo : ok but i have a ubuntu
[02:40] <Warbo> nassif: Do you have ubuntu-desktop installed? That usually helps with dist-upgrades
[02:40] <Jack_Sparrow> nassif: Im still waking up about all I can tell is that you have unmet dependencies
[02:40] <Warbo> anny: Ubuntu uses GNOME, which lets you just double click on .torrent files
[02:40] <anny> warbo  no
[02:41] <Warbo> !info bittorrent
[02:41] <ubotu> bittorrent: Scatter-gather network file transfer. In repository main, is optional. Version 3.4.2-6ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 92 kB, installed size 580 kB
[02:41] <teclo> Hello, when printing from ubuntu, I get on the sheet "-12345@PJL SET PAGEPROTECT=AUTO @PJL SET RESOLUTION=600 @PJL SET DENSITY=5 @PJL=SET DUPLEX=OFF ...". I didn't change anything in the printer configuration ! What can I do ?
[02:41] <gimmulf> dont i scp a folder using the -r option
[02:41] <gimmulf> ?
[02:41] <Warbo> anny: I don't know how Firefox might work, but I know that is how Ubuntu's GNOME works by default
[02:41] <|thunder> FuriousRage, browse over to /media/ in nautlus, is there a lock emblem on it ?
[02:41] <nassif> Jack_Sparrow: Warbo: i think "apt-get install -f" fixed it
[02:42] <Jack_Sparrow> good to know
[02:42] <Warbo> nassif: I love that command :)
[02:42] <|thunder> force that mofo
[02:42] <FuriousRage> |thunder: theres an red X over it
[02:42] <Warbo> |thunder: -f is "fix"
[02:42] <|thunder> ohh
[02:42] <|thunder> i use -reinstall
[02:42] <frogzoo> FuriousRage: close that terminal & open a new one
[02:42] <FuriousRage> frogzoo: done that several times.
[02:43] <prinou> e ai
[02:43] <Warbo> -f install will install any missing packages to get the system fixed, and -f remove will remove anything which is broken, even if it can be fixed by installing dependencies
[02:43] <anny> ok
[02:43] <FuriousRage> frogzoo: bash: cd: freenet/: Permission denied
[02:43] <frogzoo> FuriousRage: mount |grep freenet ; ls -ld /media/freenet
[02:43] <Doodluv> my sound just stopped working...just quit, all of the sudden
[02:43] <Warbo> sudo apt-get -f install is useful to run after installing a single .deb, since it can sort out dependencies automatically
[02:43] <nassif> anyone knows the problem with hewlet packard printers and the hp toolbox does not want to start because the printer is not installed via cups backend?
[02:44] <frogzoo> Doodluv: run alsamixer & remove the mute
[02:44] <steveire> In xfce, you can switch desktops by sending the mouse off the screen to the next one. Can you do that in kde/gnome?
[02:44] <Doodluv> frogzoo: well i think its more severe than that
[02:44] <FuriousRage> frogzoo: /dev/sda4 on /media/freenet type vfat (rw,umask=0007,gid=1002)
[02:44] <FuriousRage> drwxrwx--- 8 root amountgrp 8192 1970-01-01 01:00 /media/freenet
[02:44] <Warbo> !info brightside
[02:44] <Jack_Sparrow> warbo, a guy in Mepis said we were all vulnerable because we were using 2.6.15 and not some newer kernel.  As long as we update when prompted we are fine correct ?
[02:44] <ubotu> brightside: Add reactivity to the corners and edges of your GNOME desktop. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.4.0-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 96 kB, installed size 924 kB
[02:44] <Doodluv> frogzoo:
[02:44] <Doodluv> baskew@ubuntu:~$ alsamixer
[02:44] <Doodluv> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[02:44] <Warbo> Jack_Sparrow: I htink that is why the -26 came out
[02:44] <FuriousRage> frogzoo: : althought my other user that also is in amountgrp can rw access it.
[02:45] <Warbo> I am using -23. Please don't hack me
[02:45] <frogzoo> FuriousRage: mount |grep freenet
[02:45] <FuriousRage> frogzoo: : /dev/sda4 on /media/freenet type vfat (rw,umask=0007,gid=1002)
[02:45] <Jack_Sparrow> DO we need to manually upgrade kernel
[02:45] <wuming> when i install 6.06, I gor error saying "hdc:intr null header exprected "something, could not continue, anyon know what I'm talking about
[02:46] <frogzoo> FuriousRage: try setting the owner to a non root user...
[02:46] <anny> warbo when  i tape "sudo apt.." my password is incorret
[02:46] <FuriousRage> frogzoo: oksi
[02:46] <Warbo> Jack_Sparrow: I think the -26 package incorporates the kernel security updates from later kernels into the 2.6.15 kernel Ubuntu uses
[02:46] <|thunder> FuriousRage, try this. "sudo nautilus --no-desktop /media/" , then right chick / properties and check the permissions as root.
[02:46] <Jack_Sparrow> THat is what I thought..
[02:47] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks
[02:47] <Warbo> anny: Are you putting in your normal user password? (try Synaptic in System>Administration)
[02:47] <Doodluv> frogzoo: its integrated audio, on an a8n-sli mb
[02:47] <FuriousRage> frogzoo: that worked, thanks!
[02:47] <Konstable> are there any potential problems in installing Gnome on Kubuntu?
[02:47] <frogzoo> Doodluv: ok, try the gnome volume control & check the alsa & oss devices for mutes
[02:47] <FuriousRage> |thunder: setting another uid worked like a charm
[02:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Konstable: I run kde apps in ubuntu all the time
[02:48] <frogzoo> FuriousRage: yeh, that's a pain, got me once
[02:48] <Warbo> Konstable: Not that I know of. ubuntu-desktop might change your bootup splash screen though (kubuntu changed my ubuntu one)
[02:48] <bdgraue_> does ubuntu support serial mouse?
[02:48] <anny> it say that anny is not the sudoer file and this incident will be reported
[02:48] <FuriousRage> frogzoo: althought it puzzles me that my other user could access it, both users in the same "non default" group ;>
[02:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Konstable: the kde apps add whatever they need to run.. except the app help in some cases
[02:48] <Warbo> anny: Are you the only user?
[02:48] <nassif> apt-get rocks
[02:48] <anny> no
[02:49] <|thunder> FuriousRage, FYI, a lock enblem means no write perms and a red x no read
[02:49] <Warbo> anny: Log in whoever was the first user (maybe get them to help if you don't have the password) and go in System>Administration>Users And Groups. Tick the "execute system tasks" (or similar) for your username
[02:50] <Doodluv> frogzoo: kmix will not start, and gnome-sound-properties says my card is an mpu-401 uart ?
[02:50] <Konstable> Warbo, Jack_Sparrow: thanks for the info.
[02:50] <|thunder> FuriousRage, are you familir with how binary permission work ?
[02:50] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[02:50] <Doodluv> frogzoo: i think im having hardware issues...
[02:50] <fyrestrtr> anny: type 'groups' and see if you are in the admin group
[02:51] <FuriousRage> |thunder: no, would be my guess ;<
[02:51] <dpupp> im installing via network and floppy, could someone assist me? im trying to follow the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/WithFloppies but im running in to issues.
[02:51] <|thunder> like, 007 for instance
[02:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Konstable: what were you trying to install other than gnome itself?
[02:51] <anny> it say it is  wrong password
[02:51] <frogzoo> Doodluv: a reboot maybe
[02:51] <|thunder> i dont know what the extra 0 is
[02:51] <Doodluv> im so frustrated, ive been in school full-time, and i work full-time ive have waited until i get out so i can 'play' with my linux box and the 1st day my sound dies...ill try a reboot
[02:52] <sheers> I put this code in the http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/6885/capturaecrass6.png Terminal and he did not function. Alguem can explain me what I made of wrong.
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Konstable: I tried the install kubuntu-desktop but ended up with just gnome and installing individual apps
[02:52] <Kleine1> is here someobe how want to chat with agirl from germany
[02:52] <Doodluv> this is a dual boot machine, maybe the sound will work on the xp install
[02:52] <|thunder> but, the first 0 is Owner, the second is Group and the third is World.  Then the digits represent different combinations of rwx for each of them
[02:52] <django_> Kleine1, find another channel
[02:52] <Dimitrije> Does gtk+ comes with ubuntu?
[02:52] <frogzoo> Kleine1: this channel is ubuntu support - not what you're looking for probably
[02:52] <django_> Kleine1, this isn't "german-men-playing-women"
[02:52] <FuriousRage> hmm, i cant get firefox to use the profile on my vfat disk ;(
[02:53] <Warbo> Dimitrije: Version 1? I don't think so, you will have to install it after Ubuntu is installed
[02:53] <Kleine1> that is very easz
[02:53] <sioux> people is it normal that the package cgwd seems not be in any repos?
[02:53] <|thunder> for instance. 777 would give Owner Group and World(everyone anywhere) read write and execute access to that file
[02:53] <frogzoo> Kleine1: as a last restort, MMORPG - mostly men online roleplaying girls :D
[02:53] <fyrestrtr> sioux: its in the xgl repos
[02:53] <Dimitrije> Thanks Warbo!
[02:53] <Konstable> Jack_Sparrow: I haven't tried installing anything yet.  But I'm just a new Linux user, playing around with Kubuntu and want to try Gnome out.
[02:53] <django_> frogzoo, haha
[02:53] <|thunder> or maybe i have it backwards
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Konstable: to be fair... do a fresh install of Kubuntu or MEpis 6 which also used the Ubuntu repos
[02:54] <Warbo> |thunder: First number is owner, then group then others (you had it right)
[02:54] <django_> |thunder, you're right
[02:54] <|thunder> it might be world group owner
[02:54] <|thunder> ahh
[02:54] <|thunder> ok
[02:54] <django_> chmod 0777
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Konstable: duh. sorry, install Ubuntu
[02:55] <Zyfo> ./MSG AUTH ZyF0 <PASSWORD>,//mode $me +x <- That is what I've got in "server commands" in qnet, and it doesn't seem to work. What's the proper way to type 2 commands?
[02:55] <frogzoo> django_: 777 is always wrong (except for tftp)
[02:55] <dpupp> im readig a document which is trying to explain how to get deboot strap, but im not quite understanding it. my console says unreconized option --arch
[02:55] <django_> frogzoo, i was illustrating |thunder's point
[02:55] <FuriousRage> hmm firefox dont wanna work with me ;( i have edited the profile.ini to /media/freenet/Firefox where my actuall profile lays
[02:55] <|thunder> soop, 007 would give the owner and group no access at all, but the world would have FULL rwx
[02:55] <django_> i've never 777'd anything :)
[02:55] <|thunder> *soo
[02:55] <django_> now, get into ACL's ;)
[02:55] <|thunder> soop, dont use 0007 ever
[02:55] <|thunder> try 0770
[02:56] <sioux> fyrestrtr I can't install gcompiz due to old version od cgwd and apt can't find the last version
[02:56] <nassif> Jack_Sparrow: Warbo: had to remove /usr/share/man/man1/md5sum.textutils.1.gz manually for any reason. dpkg said it is "not allowed" to overwrite with different file
[02:56] <django_> |thunder, yeah you don't want total access for anyone really
[02:56] <Konstable> Jack_Sparrow: I've got a VMWare image for Ubuntu actually.
[02:56] <fyrestrtr> Zyfo: you first have to register your nick, have you done that? Then, /msg nickserv identify <password>
[02:56] <Konstable> of Ubuntu*
[02:56] <fyrestrtr> sioux: ask in #xgl
[02:56] <frogzoo> so does anyone know how to dump all users with entries in the samba passwd db?
[02:56] <django_> |thunder, just remember read=4, write=2, execute=1
[02:56] <dpupp> can someone guide me into getting debootstrap?
[02:56] <Warbo> nassif: That's weird, but dpkg doesn't like files to be in 2 packages (that's why I never use checkinstall to make packages for custom drivers)
[02:57] <Warbo> dpupp: sudo aptitude install debootstrap
[02:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Konstable: I was never a fan of gnome, always kde, but Ubuntu just seems to work so well for me I had to stay with it.
[02:57] <|thunder> i know binary, just forget the order
[02:57] <|thunder> its as easy as 124
[02:57] <django_> |thunder, lol that's the easy part
[02:57] <Zyfo> fyrestrtr, err, what? sorry if I was unclear, but this isn't nickserv and yes, I do got an auth. The problem is that it won't "send" the command, I guess it's colliding with the second command I try to send. How do I do if I want to separate those commands?
[02:57] <Jack_Sparrow> |thunder: very cute
[02:57] <django_> |thunder, ok, onto umask and octal then
[02:57] <dpupp> warbo: /bin/sh: sudo: not found.
[02:58] <|thunder> you can take it from here.
[02:58] <fyrestrtr> Zyfo: I don't know about qnet, sorry.
[02:58] <lhds> how to bring the folder linux in /usr/src ?
[02:58] <django_> bring the folder?
[02:58] <django_> like bring the noize?
[02:58] <lhds> yes its empty
[02:58] <Warbo> dpupp: You are obviously not in an Ubuntu installation then
[02:58] <frogzoo> bring it on?
[02:58] <django_> lhds, you mean uh ...delete?
[02:58] <fyrestrtr> lhds: why?
[02:58] <lhds> yes
[02:58] <lhds> i deleted it
[02:58] <lhds> i have         linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386  linux-source-2.6.15.tar
[02:58] <django_> bring != delete
[02:58] <lhds> linux-headers-2.6.15-26  linux-source-2.6.15
[02:59] <django_> ah, you want to restore
[02:59] <|thunder> dpupp, what do you get when you "echo $PATH"
[02:59] <fyrestrtr> lhds: why do you want the linux source files?
[02:59] <dpupp> warbo, im trying to install ubuntu... but i need deboot strap in the process.  im following these instructions but some things are not working out. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/WithFloppies
[02:59] <FuriousRage> anyone know if firefox in ubuntu make a log somewhere? apparantly mine doesnt even try to access the profile on my vfat disk
[02:59] <Zyfo> fyrestrtr, it's not about qnet really. Those are the 2 commands, separated by a comma. They work perfect when I type them in chat, the problem is when I want to have 2 commands written out on the same line in the "server commands" at server list. Do you see?
[02:59] <django_> fyrestrtr, he wants to bring the re-compiling
[02:59] <lhds> || /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
[02:59] <Warbo> dpupp: You are in sh correct? Is there a "#" on the prompt?
[03:00] <frogzoo> lhds: sudo apt-get install linux-source    ?
[03:00] <fyrestrtr> Zyfo: no, sorry I don't get what you want.
[03:00] <django_> if only I knew what he meant by 'bring'
[03:00] <django_> wierd word that ....
[03:00] <Jack_Sparrow> FuriousRage: IS that the linux version of firefox?
[03:00] <Zyfo> fyrestrtr, say you wanted to first do /command1 and after that /command2. How would you separate these two? The way I did it was just putting a comma in between them, but this didn't seem to work.
[03:00] <lhds> that will bring linux folder back?
[03:00] <django_> lhds, no
[03:00] <lhds> sudo apt-get install linux-source    ?
[03:00] <dpupp> |thunder, i get /usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin
[03:00] <frogzoo> lhds: well, it will install hte kernel source
[03:00] <fyrestrtr> Zyfo: try putting a ; between them?
[03:00] <django_> lhds, that will reinstall/install it for you
[03:01] <Zyfo> fyrestrtr, ah, that's the thing I'm looking for. Thanks.
[03:01] <lhds> okay
[03:01] <FuriousRage> Jack_Sparrow: its my windows profile, i have done it before on other dists, just copied the windows profile and used it with firefox in linux
[03:01] <Warbo> dpupp: OK it wants you to get debootstrap as an archive, I'll just check out what is in it for you
[03:01] <django_> lhds, so go for it :)
[03:01] <django_> bring the source!
[03:01] <lhds> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 31 not upgraded.
[03:01] <frogzoo> lhds: but you will have lost any edits
[03:01] <|thunder> then you should have sudo, its in /usr/bin/
[03:01] <Warbo> dpupp: Oh I see what it is doing. Have you got the debootstrap_0.2.45ubuntu36_i386.deb file yet?
[03:01] <fyrestrtr> lhds: sudo ln -sf /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.15 /usr/src/linux
[03:01] <Jack_Sparrow> FuriousRage: Did you copy it to the linux drive or just trying to access it from the linux side
[03:02] <frogzoo> lhds: sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-source
[03:02] <dpupp> the 36 is 404.
[03:02] <FuriousRage> Jack_Sparrow: : trying to access it on my vfat disk
[03:02] <frogzoo> lhds: 31 not ugpraded? what's with that?
[03:02] <django_> i think he has it, but can't find it ... try fyrestrtr's symlink
[03:02] <dpupp> and i check other sources and i ended up getting 0.2.45ubuntu27 instead...
[03:02] <|thunder> FuriousRage, try deleting the profile ff creates on the linux drive and soft link it to the profile on the fat drive
[03:02] <lhds> graet
[03:02] <lhds> great
[03:03] <|thunder> but only if you fully understood what i just said
[03:03] <Jack_Sparrow> FuriousRage: How are you trying to get it to read the fat frofile
[03:03] <lhds> when i make modules modules_install it last for an hour
[03:03] <fyrestrtr> lhds: why are you compiling your own kernel?!
[03:03] <django_> |thunder, would be cooler if he tried and didn't understand ;)
[03:03] <Warbo> dpupp: OK, so you used the "ar" bit?
[03:03] <django_> fyrestrtr, why not?
[03:03] <fyrestrtr> lhds: read !kernel
[03:03] <FuriousRage> Jack_Sparrow: : edited the profile.ini set isrelative=0 and pointed the path there
[03:03] <frogzoo> lhds: cpu & memory is?
[03:03] <dpupp> warbo, ar bit? no idea.
[03:03] <fyrestrtr> django_: because 99% of the time, [a]  they do it wrong [b]  its not necessary
[03:03] <lhds> i have  make menuconfig to add the saa7133 module
[03:03] <|thunder> yakk, i guess ff would just make another blbank profile
[03:04] <Warbo> dpupp: What is the filename of the .deb you downloaded?
[03:04] <fyrestrtr> !kernel
[03:04] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[03:04] <django_> fyrestrtr, yeah, but you have to do it first sometime
[03:04] <|thunder> but thats how we learn
[03:04] <abhinay> when i resume from the hibernate i got this message : "HAL failed to hibernate"  anything wrong with this ?
[03:04] <fyrestrtr> django_: ermm, no you don't.
[03:04] <spark33> ubuntu
[03:04] <django_> fyrestrtr, and it's fun for a newb to recompile
[03:04] <fyrestrtr> lhds: read that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[03:04] <Jack_Sparrow> FuriousRage: I take it you want a common profile that either os can change?
[03:04] <|thunder> ive never recompiled a kernel. ever
[03:05] <lhds> its giving me an error at the end
[03:05] <Hit3k> Are there any linux settings I should tweak to get full download speed out of torrents I get it on Windows but not Ubuntu
[03:05] <lhds> i wll pass it when its over
[03:05] <dpupp> warbo debootstrap_0.2.45ubuntu27_i386
[03:05] <frogzoo> |thunder: it's overrated
[03:05] <dpupp> .deb
[03:05] <django_> fyrestrtr, well, maybe in the 'new' era ... i've had to recompile (*had*) kernels for 10 years
[03:05] <django_> had to
[03:05] <spc> jthunder: me neither.  sounds scary.  ;)
[03:05] <FuriousRage> Jack_Sparrow: : i guess this would do it? ln -s /media/freenet/Firefox /home/mylogin/.mozilla/firefox/profilefolder ?
[03:05] <fyrestrtr> django_: depends on your definition of "fun". Newbie tries to do it for "fun" -- forgets to compile in a critical module (or say, forgets about the initrd) and then his computer doesn't boot. Comes in here and whines about it, then complains that linux sucks.
[03:05] <django_> and i can't really see that changing
[03:05] <|thunder> i agree
[03:05] <Warbo> dpupp: Then run "ar -x debootstrap_0.2.45ubuntu27_i386" (in the "work" folder you made)
[03:05] <FuriousRage> Jack_Sparrow:  and yes, to use bookmarks and such on both os's
[03:05] <|thunder> we'll have a workshop.  lol
[03:05] <fyrestrtr> django_: I have compiled kernels myself for a while, its just not normal for ubuntu.
[03:05] <django_> fyrestrtr, it is one of the easiest things to recompile a kernel. just have the backup, and you learn so much
[03:06] <spc> anybody know about remote desktop / desktop sharing in here?
[03:06] <prion___________> hello am having troubles instaling ubuntu on my system.  Can anyone help please?
[03:06] <A[D] minS> !oracle
[03:06] <ubotu> If you -must- install oracle .... here's a good place to start: http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/linux/install/xe-on-kubuntu.html
[03:06] <dpupp> warbo, can i use wild cards? deboot* ?
[03:06] <django_> fyrestrtr, anyway, wrong channel for a debate
[03:06] <Jack_Sparrow> FuriousRage: SInce I refuse to surf with Windows I have never seen the need.  SOmeone else may have better ideas on that
[03:06] <spc> I got it set up SOO easy in Gnome, but I'm trying out KDE know and can't get it!
[03:06] <Warbo> dpupp: Yes
[03:06] <nassif> spc: the best way to get a remote desktop is imho freenx. but it does not sharing ircc
[03:06] <|thunder> prion___________, just ask a more specific question. whats not working?
[03:06] <django_> fyrestrtr, incidently, that hypothetical situation you gave is a good thing if the newb goes on to find out what went wrong themselves
[03:07] <spc> nassif: I'm just doing it locally (home network) for now.
[03:07] <fyrestrtr> django_: most of the time, they don't ;)
[03:07] <django_> fyrestrtr, true heh
[03:07] <django_> fyrestrtr, but that kind of thing drove me to be a *nix admin :)
[03:07] <spc> nassif: so i don't need irc.  I didn't even know you could do anything related to irc and remote desktop.
[03:07] <dpupp> warbo ar: debian-binary : file exists
[03:07] <frogzoo> spc: rdesktop, vnc, xdmcp etc
[03:07] <nassif> spc: irc stands for if i recall correctly
[03:07] <spc> FuriousRage: you want to share bookmarks?  Probably best way is online service like de.li.ci.ous or google bookmarks.
[03:07] <Warbo> dpupp: Does "data.tar.gz" exist?
[03:08] <prion___________> thanks thunder, it's quite simple am trying to set up a dual boot system.  have formatted my drives under windows, but ubuntus not seeing the formatting in setup.  How do I get it to instal the drives I've set up for ubuntu?
[03:08] <nassif> spc: ircc
[03:08] <dpupp> yes
[03:08] <|thunder> iirc
[03:08] <fyrestrtr> does anyone know if pdf is a format that can be "stretched" without distortion?
[03:08] <dpupp> warbo, yes
[03:08] <spc> nassif: oic  thanks!
[03:08] <Warbo> dpupp: Have you set up your drive for Ubuntu and stuff?
[03:08] <nassif> |thunder: which is what i liked to express :)
[03:08] <dpupp> i partitioned already.
[03:08] <dpupp> but thats about it
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> prion___________: what format are the drives you want to share?
[03:08] <Warbo> dpupp: And mounted it?
[03:08] <frogzoo> fyrestrtr: some readers alllow "text flow" for web docs
[03:08] <|thunder> fyrestrtr, if you put a vector format image in it. yes
[03:08] <dpupp> i havent got to that part.
[03:09] <prion___________> jack, they're NTFS
[03:09] <fyrestrtr> |thunder: I've got to send this large poster type thing for printing, and its pdf. I wonder if that's good enough.
[03:09] <Jack_Sparrow> !diskmounter > prion___________
[03:09] <Warbo> dpupp: OK, try "ls /sbin/*fs*" and see if there are any "mkfs.something" or "mke2fs" files
[03:09] <fyrestrtr> prion___________: if you created a new partition in windows for ubuntu -- then in the installer, delete the partition so its marked as free space, and then have ubuntu use the free space to automatically partition itself.
[03:09] <Jack_Sparrow> prion___________:  It is NOT advised to write to ntfs..
[03:09] <spc> whew, scared to death for a second.  I typed "man rdesktop", and saw something flash up that said "reformatting ..."
[03:09] <|thunder> fyrestrtr,  is it just a full page in acrobat ?
[03:09] <nassif> spc: freenx does reall good compression and works fast as hell. even on a 100mbit lan connection its faster than vnc
[03:10] <django_> anyway, anyone do any gtk development here?
[03:10] <FuriousRage> spc: i got it to work with Jack_Sparrow 's suggestion of ln -s the ff's default to my media/freenet/Firefox
[03:10] <fyrestrtr> |thunder: yeah, and everytime I try to print it, it never prints "borderless" on my printer.
[03:10] <dpupp> warbo, i have about 5 with mkfs
[03:10] <prion___________> OK, there's one complication, my syste is running Intel Matrix RAID and ubuntu doesn't seem to be seeing the drives in their raid setup.
[03:10] <spc> ok, so I'm connecting from my work laptop (windows) using a vnc viewer, to kubuntu - trying anyways.
[03:10] <|thunder> even kinkos printers cant print color to the very edge of the page
[03:10] <Jack_Sparrow> prion___________: are those sata raids?
[03:11] <crazy_penguin> Good afternoon all!
[03:11] <m_tadeu> i'm havong ptoblems setting the nvidia drivers... I get this error
[03:11] <m_tadeu> (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[03:11] <nassif> anybody knows when we may expect freenx capable of desktop sharing?
[03:11] <Warbo> dpupp: OK, then if you know what device name your root partition has do "mkfs.ext2 -j /dev/devicename" (like hda1 or something)
[03:11] <django_> spc, and what's (not) happening?
[03:11] <prion___________> jack, indeed they are.
[03:11] <spc> frogzoo: I'm wondering which / how to configure?  KDE has "desktop sharing" applet, but configuring that didn't seem to help
[03:11] <hyperion_> hi, i'm trying to manualy install a driver for my tv card. but it puts shell scripts into my /etc/hotplug folder, naturally hotplug fails to interpret them, because it isn't supported. how can i make it work?
[03:11] <|thunder> but, if it uses a true type font they will scale infantly. vector images will as well. but rastor images like gifs and jpegs will look like pixeley crap poster size
[03:11] <fyrestrtr> |thunder: its a large linux oriented poster 'Anatomy of a Linux System' :)
[03:11] <crazy_penguin> are the ubuntu 9except kernel-bugs mainling list) mailing lists down?
[03:11] <hyperion_> if i do modprobe i get errors like WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/wis-ezusb line 62: ignoring bad line starting with 'if'
[03:12] <django_> fyrestrtr, that oughta get the chicks going :)
[03:12] <|thunder> mind dcc's it to me. that sounds cool
[03:12] <dpupp> warbo, i dont know what root partiton name has.
[03:12] <frogzoo> spc: dunno about kde - but check if there's something like Login Window preferences
[03:12] <spc> django_: I can ping (168.192.x.x.), but when I attempt to connect I get "could not connect to server", whether I try 192.168.x.x:0, :1, or no :
[03:12] <dpupp> but i suspect hda.
[03:12] <Warbo> dpupp: You said you partitioned it, so which partition did you choose for your main Ubuntu partition?
[03:12] <nassif> hyperion_: sounds like the scripts are broken
[03:12] <Warbo> hda=drive, hdaX (1,2,3,4,etc.)=partition
[03:12] <sheers> !nvidia
[03:12] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:12] <django_> spc, you are trying to connect over the net? not locally? I ask because you are using LAN addresses
[03:13] <dpupp> ..... i forgot. that was 2 hours ago.
[03:13] <Warbo> dpupp: fdisk -l
[03:13] <Warbo> dpupp: That should list partitions
[03:13] <hyperion_> nassif:  they look like perfectly fine shell scripts, however modprobe doesnt seem to be able to run them as shell scripts...
[03:13] <nassif> hyperion_: or whatever the interpreter is
[03:13] <hyperion_> .  /bin/sh
[03:13] <frogzoo> spc: you need to enable xdmcp - but not sure on kde how to do that
[03:13] <prion___________> Jack_Sparrow, they are SATA drives
[03:14] <django_> spc, and you are sure vnc is running on the server? port 5901 from memory
[03:14] <spc> django_: yes, connect across my home network
[03:14] <nassif> need a reboot bbl
[03:14] <Jack_Sparrow> prion___________: sata raid is not supported... but someone may prove me wrong
[03:14] <hyperion_> i get Warnings concerning every line of the script, 88lines
[03:14] <|thunder> fyrestrtr, is it this one ?  ftp://ftp.oreilly.com/pub/poster/oreilly_linux_poster.pdf
[03:14] <spc> frogzoo: I'll look it up, don't even know what xdmcp is
[03:14] <prion___________> Nuts, well thanks for letting me know
[03:14] <dpupp> i see; /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 as boot...
[03:14] <fyrestrtr> |thunder: yeah I think it is.
[03:15] <Warbo> dpupp: Woah, weird directory structure :)
[03:15] <spc> django_: no, I know i had set it up on gnome but then I thought it wasn't necessary.  maybe that's my problem.
[03:15] <dpupp> im using debian boot disks....
[03:15] <Hit3k> I'm using the bittorrent program and when I download a torrent via it I only get 2kb/s down when i average about 300 on windows any idea why this happens and how to fix it?
[03:15] <Jack_Sparrow> prion___________: I wish I had a better answer
[03:15] <Warbo> dpupp: fdisk -l should list sizes, so it should be pretty easy to tell which is which
[03:15] <Hit3k> and i've tried to download about 4 torrents so far
[03:15] <dpupp> warbo, yeah its the first one.
[03:15] <django_> spc, perhaps
[03:16] <|thunder> fyrestrtr, the text will be crisp. but the raster image in the middle will not
[03:16] <prion___________> Jack_Sparrow: Dude, you've been more than helpful.
[03:16] <Warbo> dpupp: Then do mkfs.ext2 -j /whatever/the/partition/is
[03:16] <dpupp> warbo, what does that do?
[03:16] <Jack_Sparrow> prion___________: thanks... this is a great channel
[03:16] <Warbo> dpupp: Makes an ext3 filesystem on the partition
[03:16] <spc> django_: I can just check for processes running and look for vnc server, right?
[03:16] <prion___________> ..............Anyone know if SATA RAID is supported in ubuntu?
[03:16] <fyrestrtr> |thunder: I can live with that.
[03:17] <dpupp> i have done that already i think.
[03:17] <dpupp> warbo, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/WithFloppies im stuck on the last two lines of `getting debootstrap`
[03:17] <Jack_Sparrow> prion___________: I have sata drives and the ability to go raid with this MB .. just waiting for someone else to get it working
[03:17] <Warbo> dpupp: Oh, then make a directory like /ubuntu or something (mkdir /ubuntu) and mount the partition on it (mount /whatever/the/partition/is /ubuntu)
[03:18] <guy22> how do i reinstall xserver-xorg-driver-ati
[03:18] <fyrestrtr> guy22: sudo aptitude reinstall xserver-xorg-driver-ati
[03:18] <guy22> i would like the 7.0 version not 7.1
[03:18] <guy22> thanks
[03:19] <MistaED> software SATA RAID works, why wouldn't it? it sounds like it wouldn't be any different than setting up an IDE or SCSI RAID, i think your windows setup raid doesn't work though i read sometime, could be wrong
[03:19] <|thunder> fyrestrtr, you can scale that text to the size of a building if yo u want
[03:19] <Warbo> dpupp: Assuming you have data.tar.gz in /work then running "cd /" then "zcat < /work/data.tar.gz | tar xv" should "install" debootstrap
[03:19] <prion___________> mistaED: need both systems to work, thanks for the tip though.
[03:19] <Warbo> dpupp: Then it is just a matter of running it with Dapper and you drive
[03:19] <fyrestrtr> you know what is annoying? xchm allows you print one *page* at a time as pdf, not the entire help file as pdf.
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> prion___________: I dual boot as well...  Too many toys in XP to give it up entirely..
[03:20] <issaker> does the installation of grub mess up the MBR? when i try to install windows xp, the setup weirds out at the partition page
[03:20] <Warbo> dpupp: The correct debootstrap command would be "/usr/sbin/debootstrap --arch i386 dapper /ubuntu http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/" (assuming you drive is mounted on /ubuntu)
[03:20] <|thunder> yakk, in page #, put 1-how ever many.   like,  1-30
[03:20] <fyrestrtr> issaker: yes, the installation of grub messes up the mbr.
[03:20] <|thunder> that usually works
[03:20] <munkay> hello again guys :)
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> issaker: windows likes to be first
[03:20] <munkay> i am on ubuntu  dapper
[03:20] <prion___________> jack_sparrow: ...yeah and I also have a tech-shy wife to keep happy!
[03:21] <munkay> i got the nvidia drivers for my geforce go 7400
[03:21] <Tamale> funny problem - how can i convince my ubuntu install that it doesn't need to upgrade from 2.6.15.26-686 to  2.6.15.26-386?
[03:21] <munkay> and followed steps mentioned here : http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Breezy
[03:21] <Jack_Sparrow> prion___________: I got my wife using Ubuntu
[03:21] <issaker> jack_sparrow, so how can i fix this? now i cant install windows xp =(
[03:21] <fyrestrtr> Tamale: lock the package in synaptic.
[03:21] <dpupp> sorry. im a little slow at this. re-reading
[03:21] <munkay> when i try to restart gdm, it says can't find module nvidia
[03:21] <longwave> Tamale: you can have both those installed at the same time
[03:21] <Jack_Sparrow> issaker: what partition is your Ub install?
[03:21] <munkay> any hints, guys?
[03:21] <Tamale> longwave: but i don't need the 386 do i ?
[03:21] <longwave> Tamale: if you don't want any -386 kernels remove linux-image-386 to stop it upgrading those
[03:21] <fyrestrtr> munkay: reboot the machine
[03:21] <issaker> jack_sparrow: f and g
[03:22] <django_> Tamale, why don't you uninstall it?
[03:22] <fyrestrtr> Tamale: not if you are running -686
[03:22] <munkay> fyrestrtr: okay.
[03:22] <hyperion_> hi, i'm trying to manualy install a driver for my tv card. but it puts shell scripts into my /etc/hotplug folder, naturally hotplug fails to interpret them, because it isn't supported. how can i make it work?. if i do modprobe i get errors like WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/wis-ezusb line 62: ignoring bad line starting with 'if' in each line.
[03:22] <issaker> jack_sparrow: or e and f
[03:22] <prion___________> I'm out. thanks for the advice guys.
[03:22] <spc> nope, I started up vnc4server, still "failed to connect to server"
[03:22] <Tamale> longwave: can i just do an apt-get remove on the original kernel ?
[03:22] <django_> Tamale, through synaptic so it gets all the dependencies (headers etc) out
[03:22] <Warbo> dpupp: Can you give me the output of "mount | grep target" please
[03:22] <Jack_Sparrow> issaker: what is your primary partition on that drive, oh and a limit of four partitions if you wnat Ub to see them..
[03:23] <django_> Tamale, otherwise it'll try to update the modules, headers etc everytime you dist-upgrade
[03:23] <longwave> Tamale: yes, that should work, but linux-image-386 is a metapackage that always depends on the latest -386 kernel, so if you don't want new ones installed remove that too
[03:23] <Tamale> django_: so what's the command i should use to remove?
[03:23] <Moosebuntu> I have two different resolutions for my login screen and when I'm logged in.  Does anyone know how I can change the login screen to match the logged in resolution?
[03:23] <Tamale> to make sure i get everything?
[03:23] <Jack_Sparrow> issaker: If you do get XP to install you will need to do this...
[03:23] <django_> Tamale, you are using a wm? through synaptic
[03:23] <guy22> can someone tell me, is ati xorg driver 6.6.0-0ubuntu1 the xorg 7.0 open src driver?
[03:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub > issaker
[03:23] <Tamale> django_: thanks man
[03:24] <spc> FuriousRage: I missed your earlier comment till just now.  ln -s?  I didn't follow what you said?
[03:24] <django_> Tamale, search for all the 386 stuff, start marking for uninstall, and it'll get the others
[03:24] <spc> nassif:  freenx, what is that?  a client or server?
[03:24] <Warbo> guy22: The DRI one? You may need to set the Driver line in your xorg.conf to "Driver         "radeon""
[03:24] <spc> frogzoo:  I couldn't find anything about xdmcp, I'll keep looking
[03:24] <guy22> Warbo thanks
[03:25] <django_> Tamale, little hint; if you want to install packages, then have it's dependencies removed if you delete it, use aptitude to install
[03:25] <django_> apt doesn't deal with the removal of dependencies
[03:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Warbo: did the help for nvidia change, it used to tell us to manually change nv to nvidia, when I re-read it yesterday I didnt see that in there..?
[03:25] <dpupp> warbo, output is: /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 on /target type ext3 (rw)
[03:25] <Tamale> also,
[03:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Warbo: but I may have just missed it
[03:25] <dpupp> not sure how to mount.
[03:26] <Warbo> Jack_Sparrow: I haven't looked at it for a while, since I have been using an ATI for a bit. My Dad has my Nvidia :)
[03:26] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[03:26] <Tamale> openoffice stuff keeps showing up in the upgrade manager
[03:26] <Tamale> and i thought i removed it
[03:26] <troytroy> lol gaim irc client very cute - guess will suspend irssi for sometime
[03:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Warbo: I told a guy to change it per the wiki and he said it didnt tell him to do that..  something for me to look at later
[03:26] <django_> Tamale, same happens here, it doesn't properly remove some stuff
[03:27] <Warbo> dpupp: Then you can just go ahead and run the "zcat < /work/data.tar.gz | tar xv" command then "/usr/sbin/debootstrap --arch i386 dapper http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu"
[03:27] <Warbo> Jack_Sparrow: I've heard the Nvidia page needs changing
[03:27] <Tamale> django_: ok, that's fine.  just wanted to make sure i'm not the only one with the problem
[03:27] <django_> Tamale, but when i checked, for some reason, some packages i had installed were dependant upon that openoffice stuff
[03:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Warbo: they may have finally changed it
[03:27] <django_> for no apparant reason
[03:27] <Tamale> django_: Hopefully i can find them and flush them out then
[03:27] <django_> Tamale, yeah, that's my next mission
[03:28] <Tamale> django_: well, for one, i notice they're all still in the menu
[03:28] <Tamale> the shortcuts
[03:28] <Jack_Sparrow> I tried to remove open office as well and had many problems..
[03:29] <Tamale> ha.. sounds like we're not alone
[03:29] <dpupp> cd: 163: cant do cd to http://archive.ubuntu.com e: no such script: /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/dapper
[03:29] <munkay> guys, i did a restart and the module error still keeps coming
[03:29] <munkay> nvidia module not found!
[03:29] <Jack_Sparrow> open office is too much like a microsoft program... big, ugly and dosent want to remove itself..
[03:29] <issaker> jack_sparrow: my primary partition should be my windos partition
[03:29] <django_> Tamale, in the end i left what was there, because like Jack_Sparrow i had problems
[03:29] <issaker> but that one is "broken" as of now
[03:30] <Warbo> dpupp: Hmm, try getting a different debootstrap package. I have used http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/debootstrap/debootstrap_0.2.39ubuntu22_i386.deb this one with a Dapper install
[03:31] <munkay> fyrestrtr i did a restart in vain
[03:31] <django_> Tamale, for me it's like the thesaurus and help files want to stay
[03:31] <django_> Tamale, when i remove them i get all sorts of strange dependency problems
[03:31] <django_> where dependencies aren't meant to be
[03:31] <django_> :)
[03:31] <Jack_Sparrow> O-Office has hooks into the OS like IE in M$
[03:32] <Jack_Sparrow> NOt a good thing
[03:32] <django_> Jack_Sparrow, that's what i figured ... a no-win atm
[03:32] <aleph0> hello everyone. I'm having problems with wu-ftpd. I keep getting "530 login incorrect" errors. does anyone have experience with this?
[03:32] <|thunder> ubuntu should include a OO removal kit
[03:32] <Jack_Sparrow> or at least a wiki
[03:32] <Warbo> |thunder: It should be called APT
[03:32] <django_> alef0, hmm, when i use the wrong login i do ...
[03:33] <django_> Warbo, zactly
[03:33] <|thunder> yakk, ubuntu didnt create apt though.   nor debain.
[03:33] <aleph0> and when you use the correct login?
[03:33] <dpupp> warbo, do i have to start the whole process again from the start to do this?
[03:33] <aleph0> django_: something is wrong with user authetication using ftp and I can't figure it out.
[03:33] <issaker> so is there a way to fix my mbr without messing up grub?
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> issaker:  yes, boot to command prompt and fdisk /mbr
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> then fix grub
[03:34] <aleph0> does ANYone here have wu-ftpd running correctly?
[03:34] <issaker> whewhen you say command prompt, you dont mean "console" right?
[03:35] <cowmilk> how do i run an "install.sh" file?
[03:35] <medelkass> hi, I got a problem when installing ubuntu. Im using the live CD and when it comes to the part in the installation where its time to partition the hard drive the installation just stops. I got a hard drive on 250GB and 40GB goes to Windows XP already and 150GB is an NTFS Partitioned and the rest is unpartitioned where I want ubuntu to be. Anyone with the same problem?
[03:35] <Hardcopi> I can't get the live cd to boot, it just comes up with an endless string of translated/ata errors. I searched the forums and just cannot find the trouble. Any ideas?
[03:35] <Jack_Sparrow> issaker: I did have grub on flooy for awhile and only used the floppy to get to Ub..
[03:35] <FuriousRage> hmm, i keep getting disconnected
[03:35] <issaker> hum
[03:35] <issaker> k] 
[03:35] <issaker> thanks, sparrow
[03:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Hardcopi: have you tried to check the md5 of that cd?
[03:35] <django_> Jack_Sparrow, ug .. slow
[03:35] <Warbo> dpupp: You can extract the .deb (probably into a different folder than /work, since it will conflict with the one in there) then extract data.tar.gz (not into /, just into a folder somewhere), go into the usr it creates, then lib and debootstrap. Look for some scripts for dapper and put them in /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts
[03:35] <Jack_Sparrow> issaker: ill be glad to walk you through any of that
[03:35] <|thunder> cowmilk, ./install.sh
[03:36] <Hardcopi> Nope, but it shouldn't be a burn problem, I tried burning the dvd version and kubuntu, just to make sure.
[03:36] <|thunder> cowmilk, "./install.sh" in a terminal
[03:36] <Jack_Sparrow> django_: that was just for testing until I was comfortable.
[03:36] <petros> hi!
[03:36] <jimmy89> hmm
[03:36] <jimmy89> um, i cant seem to copy using gFTP
[03:36] <petros> i have installed kubuntu, now i want to try gnome
[03:36] <|thunder> cowmilk, or maybe pyton install.sh
[03:36] <petros> which package must i install for gnome?
[03:36] <petros> is there a bundle package?
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Hardcopi: I would check it.. NEro has a free md5 program
[03:37] <jimmy89> do i have to give gFTP root access to write?
[03:37] <django_> Jack_Sparrow, yeah i gotcha, i had to do the same once, which is why i commiserated :)
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[03:37] <finalbeta> Anyone how a tutorial on how to set up xgame in dapper?
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> petros: gnome-desktop
[03:37] <petros> thx Jack_Sparrow
[03:37] <cowmilk> |thunder: i tried that. what's the first character in your nick?
[03:38] <STEEK> why doesn't ubuntu ask me to create a root acount during install and how do I do this?
[03:38] <Jack_Sparrow> but it wont be like a fresh install of Ubuntu
[03:38] <Jack_Sparrow> bang
[03:38] <dpupp> warbo thats over my head at the moment :( might be faster if i try harder to locate the specified file in the guide...  or is that guide for hoary and not dapper? i might be reading the wrong document for the last 6 hours.
[03:38] <medelkass> anyone?
[03:38] <cowmilk>  File "install.sh", line 14
[03:38] <Jack_Sparrow> medelkass: did you ask a question?
[03:39] <cowmilk>  INSTALLER_LICENSE="                      ^ SyntaxError: EOL while scanning single-quoted string  is the error i get when i do python install.sh
[03:39] <medelkass> yes
[03:39] <cowmilk> !info castpodder
[03:39] <ubotu> Package castpodder does not exist in dapper
[03:39] <medelkass> I wrote "hi, I got a problem when installing ubuntu. Im using the live CD and when it comes to the part in the installation where its time to partition the hard drive the installation just stops. I got a hard drive on 250GB and 40GB goes to Windows XP already and 150GB is an NTFS Partitioned and the rest is unpartitioned where I want ubuntu to be. Anyone with the same problem?"
[03:39] <cowmilk> !info juice
[03:39] <ubotu> juice: playlist editor / player frontend. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.03pbuild1 (dapper), package size 105 kB, installed size 340 kB
[03:39] <jimmy89> i cant copy with an ftp program *cries*
[03:39] <cowmilk> !info ipodder
[03:39] <ubotu> ipodder: a podcast receiver. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.1.9-4 (dapper), package size 640 kB, installed size 2648 kB
[03:39] <FuriousRage> hmm how to i fix so my mouse works like mousewheel "click" is double click? now it does something else
[03:39] <cowmilk> !info podnova
[03:39] <ubotu> Package podnova does not exist in dapper
[03:40] <Warbo> dpupp: The guide is for hoary, and it seems like the debootstrap you got doean't know what dapper is, but running the same ar and zcat commands (but NOT in /) should extract the new .deb, then copy the dapper scripts in it (in usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts) to /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts
[03:40] <Jack_Sparrow> medelkass: is that 150 on one partition for a total of two partitions and the unallocated space?
[03:41] <dpupp> is there a debootstrap that does know dapper?
[03:41] <Warbo> dpupp: That link I gave does
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> jimmy89: sounds like a permissions problem
[03:41] <|thunder> ubotu, did you uncomment the universal repos in apt sources ?
[03:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about did you uncomment the universal repos in apt sources ? - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:41] <darknesstaoh> Spanish??
[03:41] <|thunder> hackel,
[03:41] <dpupp> warbo, ah... takes note. sorry. im a little loopy at times..
[03:41] <Warbo> dpupp: Wait a sec, I'll make it easy for you...
[03:41] <jimmy89> Jack_Sparrow: agreed
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> !es > darknesstaoh
[03:41] <FuriousRage> !mouse
[03:41] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[03:42] <jimmy89> Jack_Sparrow: though how do i give it permission to paste into my home directory for example
[03:42] <|thunder> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources/    remove the #'s before the deb's under the universal heading.
[03:42] <medelkass> Jack sparrow: the 150GB is an NTFS secondary drive that I will use in windows.
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> jimmy89: you can check permissions for that folder but you should already have permissions to do that.. just not into root
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> medelkass: two different drives in the system?
[03:43] <jimmy89> yeah it just dosnt let me copy stuff, says local file */*/* where *'s are the file i am trying to copy to dosnt exist
[03:44] <medelkass> Jack sparrow: No its just one Harddirve
[03:44] <django_> jimmy89, i came in late .. is this an NTFS partition?
[03:44] <Jack_Sparrow> django_: good point
[03:44] <gidim> Alright, new day, new battle with Ubuntu. Okay, not new day, I went to bed at like 0300... so, several hours later...
[03:44] <issaker> jack_sparrow: where do i type in "fdisk /mbr" ?
[03:44] <|thunder> i have 1 4GB ext3 set as / , a 7GB ext3 set as /home, and a 1GB swap partition. so 3 partitons for 1 ubuntu
[03:44] <Jack_Sparrow> medelkass: I just wanted to clarify since you said secondary drive and not partition
[03:45] <sheers> Staff when I execute this code "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" of - me an error in consoles does not obtain to activate the Drivers of the Nvidia.
[03:45] <jimmy89> django: i am just trying to copy a file through FTP from a remote server, into my home directory which is ext3
[03:45] <medelkass> Jack sparrow: sorry about that :) Im new to linux and all this.
[03:45] <Jack_Sparrow> issaker: boot to command prompt with xp cd or 98 cd or boot floppy
[03:45] <Jack_Sparrow> medelkass: np
[03:45] <Hardcopi> I checked the MD5.. any other ideas why it hangs during the live cd boot with translated/ata errors (they continue indefinitely)
[03:45] <dpupp> warbo , ok, i got the package you mentioned on dapper into work2 directory.
[03:45] <fblade> hey guys any1 able to help me installing savage the game onto ubuntu
[03:45] <guy22> how do i force the downgrade of a package, eg xserver-xorg-driver-ati down to version 6.5.7??
[03:45] <fblade> i get this error ImportError: libssl.so.0.9.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:45] <fblade> There was an error (error 65280 - Unknown error 65280) running the updater!  bailing out
[03:45] <fyrestrtr> sheers: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change "nv" to "nvidia"
[03:45] <django_> jimmy89, ah ok .. in that case sounds perms
[03:46] <django_> jimmy89, which i'm sure you've already heard
[03:46] <Jack_Sparrow> issaker: hit f8 when booting with xp cd in drive
[03:46] <issaker> jack_sparrow: ah, ok
[03:46] <issaker> brb
[03:46] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[03:46] <Warbo> dpupp: Even easier. "wget http://geocities.com/niceandrandom/dapper.txt" then "mv dapper.txt /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/dapper"
[03:46] <|thunder> fblade, try #cedega
[03:46] <protocol1> !bastille
[03:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about bastille - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:46] <|thunder> or is that a linux game ?
[03:46] <dpupp> takes note.
[03:46] <dpupp> brb.
[03:46] <fblade> its t he linux version
[03:47] <sheers> fyrestrtr: Warning: unknown mime-type for "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" -- using "application/*"
[03:47] <sheers> Error: no write permission for file "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[03:47] <sheers> I use the Terminal to edit the file
[03:47] <|thunder> fblade, is it available in the repositories ?
[03:47] <sheers> Iam a very noob :(
[03:47] <Jack_Sparrow> sheers: use sudo
[03:47] <dsas> Using a ubuntu live cd to reinstall grub I get "Error 21: Selected disk does not exist" when doing root (hd0,1) any ideas?
[03:47] <|thunder> sheers, try sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:48] <Jack_Sparrow> or gksudo
[03:48] <jimmy89> perhaps you guys can help me out on another issue, my network access (wireless) keeps stopping and starting, like itll copy / download a bit, stop for 5 seconds, copy more, stop etc
[03:48] <sheers> |thunder OK :D
[03:48] <FuriousRage> how can i set in gnome that my mouse wheel click should be a double click?
[03:48] <Warbo> dsas: sudo grub-install /dev/linuxdevicename (not GRUB device name)
[03:48] <sioux> people who help me to understand how setup a theme with cgwd-themer
[03:48] <Jack_Sparrow> dsas: try the super grub repair disk
[03:48] <fyrestrtr> sheers: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:49] <dsas> Warbo: thanks, I'll give that a try.
[03:49] <Jack_Sparrow> dsas: dont have the link handy but google super grub repair disk should find it
[03:49] <Warbo> FuriousRage: Mouse wheel is third mouse button, you would need to set it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but it is beyond me
[03:49] <|thunder> i always forget about gk
[03:49] <dpupp> now i run  "/usr/sbin/debootstrap --arch i386 dapper http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu" right ?
[03:49] <FuriousRage> Warbo: what i found on the !mouse like only how to set 7-9 buttons sorta, but never how to make middle as double click ;/
[03:49] <Warbo> dpupp: Yes
[03:49] <Warbo> no
[03:49] <Warbo> wait
[03:50] <boing757895445> how to enable dma for the IDE drives????
[03:50] <fyrestrtr> boing757895445: hdpart
[03:50] <fyrestrtr> boing757895445: hdparm
[03:50] <Warbo>  /usr/sbin/debootstrap --arch i386 dapper /target http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[03:50] <fyrestrtr> !dma
[03:50] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hard disks run faster,  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[03:50] <boing757895445> thanks
[03:51] <dsas> Warbo: Thinking about it, would that be different if the /boot I want to use isn't the currently running one (i'm boot on a live disk atm)
[03:51] <dpupp> warbo: 3: finddebs_style: not found
[03:52] <Warbo> dpupp: Erm, don't know that one
[03:52] <sheers> Now I modified nv for nvidia but the error continues me to appear when I execute the code: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[03:52] <sheers> :(
[03:52] <dpupp> me either... will try issuing all commands from the start with the new package i downloaded.
[03:53] <dpupp> any warnings?
[03:53] <Tamale> can i suppress entrance and exit notifications in irc in gaim?
[03:53] <Warbo> dpupp: Since you are not booting from your installation at the moment I would leave the configuration of partitions and mountpoints until later. Just try to get debootstrap to install it
[03:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Tamale: yes people have done that, I dont use gaim though
[03:53] <fearme> how do i give someone else sudo?
[03:53] <|thunder> boing757895445, seems dma is already enabled on my via chipset by default.
[03:53] <Jack_Sparrow> fearme: a second user on your system ?
[03:54] <boing757895445> luck for you
[03:54] <Warbo> fearme: Attch /usr/bin/sudo to an email
[03:54] <Tommck_> fearme - I believe you add their name to the /etc/sudoers file
[03:54] <Warbo> :)
[03:54] <|thunder> ha
[03:54] <fearme> ok thanks
[03:56] <|thunder> fearme, you need the visudo command
[03:56] <sheers> !nvidia
[03:57] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:57] <|thunder> fearme, nevermind that. just edit it.
[03:57] <fearme> ok
[03:57] <|thunder> i just skimmed the visudo manual.
[03:57] <Tommck_> hello all.. This may seem like a newb question, but I was wondering what I could do to stop apt-get from asking me for the installation CD when I try to install new software.  Do I have to copy the whole CD to disk?
[03:58] <Tommck_> I've been searching for an answer to this, but I guess I'm not phrasing the search terms well
[03:58] <sheers> How can update md5sum  ??
[03:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Tommck_: is the cd in your sources list..
[03:58] <Warbo> Tommck_: run "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" and put a "#" at the beginning of the line for your CD
[03:58] <Tommck_> Jack_Sparrow - I'd assume so
[03:58] <Jack_Sparrow> People, the wife just woke up so I need to go
[03:58] <dpupp> bah i think i messed something up. can i just delete work and work2 and start clean?
[03:59] <Tommck_> Warbo - I have a crappy internet connection, so I'd rather it grab what it can from disk, if possible
[03:59] <|thunder> mandy_moron, i need sleep. later all.
[03:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Tommck_: I would remove or comment it out
[03:59] <Warbo> dpupp: I would guess so
[03:59] <Jack_Sparrow> back later...
[03:59] <|thunder-afk> wtf. xchat is replacing my words
[03:59] <Warbo> dpupp: You have also put debootstrap in /usr/bin, and all of it's support stuff in /usr/lib/debootstrap as well though
[03:59] <Warbo> usr/sbin sorry
[04:00] <|thunder-afk> ohh, duh, i tab completed
[04:00] <|thunder-afk> bah,    sleep
[04:01] <Tommck___> Warbo - can I copy some stuff off my CD to the disk so that apt-get won't try to download things?
[04:02] <Warbo> Tommck___: If you put the packages from the "pool" folder directly into /var/cache/apt/archives (eg. no seperate folders, just all of the .debs in to that folder) then it may realise that it already has them, and won't ask
[04:02] <Tommck___> Warbo  - thanks
[04:03] <dpupp> i dont get it.  cd: 154: cant cd to archives.ubuntu.com e: no such script.
[04:03] <Warbo> dpupp: Ah, did I put archives? Try just archive.ubuntu.com
[04:04] <dpupp> e: no such script: /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts//target
[04:04] <dpupp> should i leave out target and use ubuntu instead?
[04:05] <Warbo> dpupp: "/usr/sbin/debootstrap dapper /target http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu"
[04:05] <adrian783> jack_sparrow: should i see anything when i tyoe "fdisk /mbr" ?
[04:05] <moitio> how do i see how a wget session is going on when I can't see the terminal that started it?
[04:06] <dpupp> /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/dapper: 3: finddebs_style: not found
[04:07] <lhds> how to know my x.org version?
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> issaker: no
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> it should just boot to windows
[04:07] <issaker> so how would i know if my mbr is fixed o_O?
[04:07] <dpupp> there has to be another way to install ubuntu... cant i just copy an iso onto the hard drive and somehow get it to read it?
[04:07] <issaker> hummmmm
[04:07] <lhds> how to know whar version i am running of x.org?
[04:08] <dpupp> not having a cd drive on this notebook is making things so complex.
[04:08] <ifvoid> hi guys
[04:08] <orbin> lhds: less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:08] <Warbo> dpupp: There is a "finddebs_style from-indices" line in that file, so I don't know whether that is complaining about a lack of it, or that it is not a command. Seems weird
[04:08] <issaker> jack_sparrow: yah now it boot directly to windows, but im still having trouble installing a copy of windows xp on this computer
[04:09] <ifvoid> I just updated Xorg from the version in dapper to edgy, but now the X server won't start anymore: it complain it cannot find the default font `misc'
[04:09] <orbin> dpupp: might be useful: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[04:09] <Warbo> dpupp: You have it easy. I have a laptop with no floppy, no network, no CDROm and a blank HD. I am waiting for a 2.5" to 3.5" HD adaptor to arrive :)
[04:09] <dpupp> warbo, thanks for your help. i really appreciate it.
[04:09] <ifvoid> but I do have that font in /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc, and that path is in the fontpath
[04:09] <Jack_Sparrow> issaker:  you want a second copy of xp or just refresh the one you have>
[04:09] <ifvoid> anyone an idea on where to look?
[04:09] <issaker> refresh
[04:09] <issaker> like overwrite it
[04:10] <ifvoid> how would that help?
[04:10] <Jack_Sparrow> and you cant boot the cd and just install it
[04:10] <J2D2> Hey guys, i plugged up my simpletech external hard drive and it wont show up. :S
[04:10] <issaker> i can boot the CD, and i can get to the select partition page
[04:10] <issaker> however it wont install on a NTFS
[04:10] <Jack_Sparrow> very odd
[04:11] <Jack_Sparrow> it is xp isntit?
[04:11] <issaker> yes it is
[04:11] <Jack_Sparrow> and you are trying to install on the primary partiton of the primary drive?
[04:11] <_priest> ifvoid: your xorg.conf is probably screwy
[04:12] <issaker> lemem take a screenshot
[04:12] <eigenlambda> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:12] <nassif> hi all.. dist-upgrade finally worked *happy*
[04:12] <J2D2> can anyone help me with the external hard drive?
[04:12] <ifvoid> _priest: how?  the font path is correct, I checked in the log
[04:12] <Jack_Sparrow> issaker:  I would try the command prompt again and format C first.
[04:13] <_priest> ifvoid: backup xorg.conf and try with xorg -configure
[04:13] <nassif> my problem: the list with the printer driver is empty
[04:13] <nassif> i would like to install an hp psc 1315
[04:13] <issaker> jack_sparrow: i cant even install on a fresh partition
[04:14] <issaker> jack_sparrow: as in one that has not been formatted at all
[04:14] <Jack_Sparrow> issaker: it wont let you go there.. only primary on C
[04:14] <gyro54> anyone help with printer setup using http://localhost:631/ -- What username and password is it looking for?
[04:15] <vfa> yo
[04:16] <der_oschni> hello
[04:16] <Jack_Sparrow> issaker: I am having breakfast with the wife, if you want me please use my nick so it will highlight for me to see.
[04:16] <issaker> jack_sparrow: sure
[04:17] <vfa> "de" klingt gut @:oschni
[04:17] <ifvoid> hmm
[04:17] <ifvoid> dpkg-reconfiguring did work
[04:17] <ifvoid> thanks guys
[04:17] <ifvoid> now I've just got to find out which setting was wrong
[04:17] <der_oschni> does anyone knows a nfsboot-ready kernel for ubuntu? I installed "kernel-image-netbootable" which should install a nfsboot-ready kernel. But I think that the Kernel isnt ready. Message:VFS:  "Cannot open root device "nfs", Please appen a correct "root=" boot option." Any Idea?
[04:18] <idel> Hi all :)
[04:18] <vfa> hi
[04:18] <der_oschni> vfa: yes, i still asked there. *shrug* 8(
[04:19] <vfa> what what ? @oschni
[04:19] <der_oschni> [16:17]  <vfa> "de" klingt gut @:oschni
[04:19] <vfa> kwk = klar wie klossbrhe :-)
[04:19] <Shanee> hello! I'm having problems with my cups installation, I cant add any printers. I start "new printer" and there appears a window with gnome-cups-add and a line "printerdatabase searching..." (sorry, localisation here is german, so the translation may not be correct)
[04:20] <dpupp> warbo, when i entered hoary instead of dapper, its now doing some stuff........
[04:20] <dpupp> i: retreiving (many things flying across screen)
[04:20] <vfa> @ shanee sag ma auf deutsch was da steht
[04:21] <AdmX> Hello room.
[04:21] <gyro54> printer problems are on tonight
[04:21] <Shanee> vfa: "Druckerdatenbank wird eingelesen..."
[04:21] <dpupp> question, once hoary is installed, can it be upgraded to dapper and still be the same as installing clean? or is like going from 98 to xp?
[04:21] <gyro54> anyone help with printer setup using http://localhost:631/ -- What username and password is it looking for?
[04:21] <AdmX> Yes it can
[04:21] <mc__> im looking for a way to convert a quicktime video into a format every dvd player can play
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> cups is disabled by default.. theres a TINY message on that page tht tells ya.
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> let me get ya a url that shows how to fix it.
[04:22] <vfa> @ shanee da must glaub ich warten
[04:22] <vfa> ja dauert n weilchen
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> gyro54,  http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2117/
[04:22] <acbot> hello
[04:22] <idel> mc_: try with ffmpeg
[04:22] <Lynoure> gyro54: as far as I know, the non-existing root password, so there is in the default setting no way to give a password it'll be happy with
[04:22] <stylez>  ola
[04:22] <ricardo> Hi, I am new to Ubuntu. I just installed it and I can not get the Internet to work properly. At the beginning it works fine, but if I want to download something (i.e.: the security updates, or add a program), it suddenly stops. The only way of getting back the Internet connection is deactivate/activate it. Still, I am not able to download anything. Any ideas?
[04:23] <Shanee> vfa: wieviel knnte ein bisschen sein, drei Minuten? Habs gerade noch mal gestartet, noch keine Antwort...
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> !cups
[04:23] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[04:23] <void^> !de
[04:23] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:23] <idel> do you know if the HP 3940 is compatible with ubuntu (dapper)? I dont see it on  wiki
[04:23] <acbot> is anyone able to help me with a strange bcm43xx issue?
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> idel,  check www.cups.org
[04:23] <AdmX> Is your connection Wired or Wireless
[04:23] <idel> :O thanks
[04:23] <wthww> acbot: whats thweproblem?
[04:23] <ricardo> wired
[04:23] <vfa> shanee: bei mir dauerst 10sek ca.
[04:23] <troytroy> ricardo: try /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:24] <AdmX> At term window what do you get when you type ifconfig
[04:24] <acbot> wthww: its odd.. the wireless device can send packets but it cant recieve them. i can also see the wireless network
[04:24] <gyro54> Lynoure: it all looked good up until the password.
[04:24] <rr72> Ok i thought it was just ubuntu and kubuntu, whats edubuntu and exubuntu?
[04:24] <vfa> shanee: lass ma nach ubuntu-de wechseln
[04:24] <Shanee> vfa: still waiting for an answer from the gnome-cups-add dialog
[04:24] <Shanee> vfa:ok
[04:24] <wthww> acbot:what platfor? x86 man or64-bit?
[04:25] <dpupp> question, can i take a notebook hard drive out of a system, pre set up dapper on the desktop,, and have dapper redetect everything once moved back into a laptop?
[04:25] <acbot> wthww: x86
[04:25] <ricardo> thanks troytroy I'll try it
[04:25] <finalbeta> Anyone how a tutorial on how to set up xgame in dapper?
[04:25] <wthww> acbot: you should try ndsi wrapper. i had the same problem
[04:25] <Lynoure> gyro54: I assume ubuntu by default assumesthe use of some gnome printer gui thingy (cannot tell more as I use kubuntu)
[04:25] <orbin> !edubuntu > rr72
[04:25] <wthww> *ndis
[04:25] <orbin> !xubuntu > rr72
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> dpupp,  ya could. you may have to reconfigure the video and sound however.
[04:25] <rr72> kk kool ty
[04:26] <dpupp> that wouldent be too hard i dont think... or would it?
[04:26] <acbot> wthww: okay cool. i tried that too but got a similar problem.. have you got a good guide somewhere?
[04:26] <Lynoure> gyro54: but somewhere in the cups configuration files you can set who can have admin access to cups, and changing that could get you past the dialog
[04:26] <aTypical> Hello, Dr_Willis.  What channel do I know you from?  Are you a former Fedorian(?) or suser?
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> gyro54,  the web cups interface lets ya twiddle with settings and they wont take. (when you ahve to enter the name/pass) its fixable  --->  http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2117/
[04:26] <wthww> acbot: no, but, iff your willing to pm, i can walk you through it and i have a good driver set
[04:27] <bobovski> hi all
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> aTypical,  used suse and gentoo ages ago.
[04:27] <acbot> okay cool
[04:27] <aTypical> Must be suse. :-)
[04:27] <bobovski> can anyone tell me how to set up mt RWIN values upon boot?
[04:27] <lhds> The directory of kernel headers (version 2.6.15.7-ubuntu1) does not match your running kernel (version 2.6.15-26-386).  Even if the module were to compile successfully, it would not load into the running kernel. what is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 
[04:27] <acbot> wthww: ill just sign in
[04:27] <lhds> what to do
[04:27] <wthww> kk
[04:27] <gyro54> Dr_Willis: Thanks I'll have a look
[04:27] <bobovski> I've changed it in /proc/sys/net/core, but after reboot it went back to what it was before
[04:28] <lhds> !help
[04:28] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[04:28] <madnificent> ubotu: botsnack
[04:28] <ubotu> Yum!
[04:28] <vinibaggio> Hi, I'm new to Linux and Ubuntu and I'm having trouble to use java-based applications. I'm trying to use jEdit but I can't type double quotes ("), only single quotes '. I'm using us-international keyboard layout...
[04:29] <lhds> cmon you can help me out
[04:29] <lhds> The directory of kernel headers (version 2.6.15.7-ubuntu1) does not match your running kernel (version 2.6.15-26-386).  Even if the module were to compile successfully, it would not load into the running kernel. what is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 
[04:29] <finalbeta> Anyone how a tutorial on how to set up xgame in dapper?
[04:29] <Orbit45244> I'm having a bit of a problem again
[04:29] <idel> ^^ HP DeskJet 3940 Color inkjet printer, max. 4800x1200 dpi, works Mostly
[04:29] <bobovski> found it, I thinik
[04:30] <madnificent> vinibaggio: you can change the layout in gnome, and read where the characters are :)
[04:30] <lhds> brothers of true metal lets make it for once
[04:30] <lhds> let hit and hit again
[04:30] <madnificent> vinibaggio: I'm not on ubuntu now, so it's a bit hard to help you
[04:30] <lhds> shame on you madnificent ....
[04:30] <Orbit45244> My LiveCD totally worked until I upgraded RAM and a video card and now when I boot I get some message about power management and that I should install something and reboot. Help?
[04:30] <madnificent> vinibaggio: if that doesn't work, you can check which characters you get trough the command line (but that's evil)
[04:30] <vinibaggio> madnificent: oops, I'm using KDE... Well all GTK and QT applications works with " as you can see :) only java applications. I have the same trouble with netbeans
[04:30] <madnificent> lhds: shame on acer
[04:31] <lhds> why?
[04:31] <g1g4nt1c> hello
[04:31] <madnificent> vinibaggio: eww, that's evil
[04:31] <lhds> my pc is an acer
[04:31] <lhds> if we dont speak about the fan sounds and noises its very fine !
[04:31] <g1g4nt1c> i'm using xchat, Can I open two servers in xchat at the same time?
[04:31] <vinibaggio> madnificent: I can't even try a hello world example without copying and pasting only....
[04:31] <madnificent> lhds: because acer creates laptops that fail in every aspect; so now I can only install an os that happens to be in the first 2cm (lucky guess) of the cd (and I only had a dvd with freebsd on it)
[04:32] <AdmX> Don't think so ...
[04:32] <madnificent> vinibaggio: did you try netbeans?
[04:32] <madnificent> vinibaggio: or does that give you the same problem
[04:32] <g1g4nt1c> i'm using xchat, Can I open two servers in xchat at the same time?
[04:32] <vinibaggio> madnificent: yes, same problem
[04:32] <madnificent> s/netbeans/eclipse !!
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> g1g4nt1c,  yes you can
[04:32] <g1g4nt1c> Dr_Willis, how can i do that
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> g1g4nt1c,  dont confuse xchat-gnome with xchat.
[04:32] <AdmX> Really .....
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> g1g4nt1c,  go to the server list and connect.. :P
[04:32] <django_> g1g4nt1c, i would have told you that earlier, but that damn 1 looked like an l
[04:32] <vinibaggio> madnificent: I didn't try eclipse.... Lemme check, but i think it will work
[04:32] <dmsantam> Dr_Willis, Two _servers_ at the same time?
[04:33] <django_> and i only tab
[04:33] <dmsantam> Dr_Willis, definitely two or more channels, but two servers?
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> dmsantam,  trivial....
[04:33] <django_> ya two servers
[04:33] <madnificent> vinibaggio: in that case, it doesn't solve your problem, but you can get further...
[04:33] <django_> i'm doing it now
[04:33] <dmsantam> Dr_Willis, how?
[04:33] <django_> unless i'm some sort of freakazoid
[04:33] <Orbit45244> how do I start the dbus system service and the messagebus system service?
[04:33] <g1g4nt1c> Dr_Willis, yeah, two channels, but I can't manage to open two servers at the same time
[04:33] <Dr_willis_> Like this....
[04:33] <madnificent> vinibaggio: maybe you need to install an other java vm . . . (the official one might work)
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> g1g4nt1c,  you can have a dozen plus servers going
[04:34] <dmsantam> Dr_Willis, _how_
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> you guys are making it way too complex.. its trivial. :P
[04:34] <vinibaggio> madnificent: I dont think i have many choices, but I think it will work since its GTK... Only Swing (or the kit jedit and netbeans uses)
[04:34] <dmsantam> Dr_Willis, you mean by opening more than one instance?
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> GO to the xchat/server list... select a different server.. select connect
[04:34] <vinibaggio> madnificent: Thats a possibility, I'm using sun's
[04:34] <g1g4nt1c> dmsantam, I think he means that
[04:34] <AdmX> How, by opening more than one xchat cleint ??
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> i do NOT mean run xchat again
[04:34] <dmsantam> g1g4nt1c, i hope not.
[04:34] <madnificent> vinibaggio: hmmm, suns should work :)
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> i just did it.. see dr_willis_ ?
[04:34] <Dr_willis_> Weee,,
[04:34] <Dr_willis_> byee to the clone.
[04:34] <dmsantam> Dr_Willis, why aren't you mentioning how?
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> dmsantam,  i have 3 times now ----> GO to the xchat/server list... select a different server.. select connect
[04:35] <django_> dmsantam, he did
[04:35] <dmsantam> ahh ok, thanks
[04:35] <django_> and it's so easy, it's ridiculous to even ask
[04:35] <django_> sorry
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> django_,  :P
[04:35] <ricardo> Thanks troytroy the command you gave me (/etc/init.d/networking restart) seems to have fixed the problem. THANKS!!!!
[04:35] <Orbit45244> how do I start the dbus system service and the messagebus system service?
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> django_,  perhaps they are ex mirc users. :P
[04:36] <dmsantam> Dr_Willis, perhaps not
[04:36] <django_> Dr_Willis, or worse, current ones on wine
[04:36] <django_> ricardo, haha that's a good little command
[04:36] <AdmX> cool ..... :)
[04:36] <jimmy89> hey guys, what program can i use to extract the .part files eg .00 .01 etc
[04:36] <vinibaggio> madnificent: Ok, eclipse works, thanks! But well.... The problem is veeeery weird
[04:36] <dmsantam> Orbit45244, /etc/init.d/dbus restart
[04:36] <g1g4nt1c> xchat-gnome doesn't support multiple server use I think, Dr_Willis
[04:36] <django_> jimmy89, rar .. those are rar files, aren't they?
[04:36] <jimmy89> yes
[04:37] <Orbit45244> dmsantam: I'm on a live CD.
[04:37] <dmsantam> Orbit45244, oh, damn :)
[04:37] <madnificent> vinibaggio: you can get further... I do wonder what the problem is (maybe a configuration here or there)
[04:37] <g1g4nt1c> xchat-gnome doesn't support multiple server use I think, dmsantam
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> g1g4nt1c,  i said earlier to not confse the 2.. use xchat2.  not xchat-gnome
[04:37] <AdmX> I'm on 2600net and FreeNode right now.
[04:37] <dmsantam> g1g4nt1c, perhaps you're right
[04:37] <AdmX> Using Xchat
[04:38] <g1g4nt1c> stupid xchat-gnome :-d
[04:38] <vinibaggio> madnificent: Can you tell me so I can investigate?
[04:38] <Dr_Willis> xchat-gnome - a new frontend to the popular X-Chat IRC client
[04:38] <Dr_Willis> xchat - IRC client for X similar to AmIRC
[04:39] <madnificent> vinibaggio: I honoustly can't tell you... there must be some configuration file conserning java... but I don't know where it is, and what is in it... so...
[04:39] <vinibaggio> madnificent: Ok, no problem, thanks!
[04:39] <fjellREV1> Can anyone hand me a link to dapper live cd ?
[04:40] <void^> !multiverse
[04:40] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[04:40] <django_> xchat-gnome is an abomination
[04:40] <AdmX> http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[04:40] <madnificent> vinibaggio: np
[04:41] <naknomik> when I run apt-get dist-upgrade, I get a message that following packages have been kept back, what does this mean?
[04:42] <madnificent> naknomik: didn't know that was possible with an apt-get dist-upgrade (with ap-get update && apt-get upgrade it is)
[04:42] <madnificent> naknomik: check the man page to be sure man apt (I think)
[04:42] <madnificent> naknomik: search for kept back in there
[04:43] <naknomik> madnificent, there's no text 'kept back' in the manual for apt-get
[04:44] <bobovski> OK, I'm stuck after all. Whenever I adjust my RWIN settings, the change doesn't take place, according to speedguide.net. Has anyone had trouble getting sysctl to update before?
[04:44] <fjellREV1> Is there actually a LiveCD for Dapper ?
[04:44] <jimmy89> django_: what program should i use to unrar files?
[04:44] <wthww> mmk
[04:44] <bobovski> moreover, is there another service out there that analyzes tcp settings?
[04:44] <madnificent> naknomik: that was my only guess :)
[04:44] <avu> fjellrev1: yes, it's called 'desktop CD'
[04:44] <erUSUL> fjellREV1: yes, of course, the desktop cd is a livecd
[04:44] <avu> jimmy89: unrar :)
[04:44] <django_> jimmy89, i think there is a gnu unrar
[04:45] <avu> jimmy89: once unrar is installed, you can even use nautilus to unrar
[04:45] <naknomik> any apt experts here? or should I go to #debian?
[04:45] <fjellREV1> aha,thanks for clearing that out for me
[04:45] <avu> naknomik: that means apt-get could not resolve some dependency issues
[04:45] <jimmy89> where do i find this?
[04:45] <avu> naknomik: try aptitute instead
[04:45] <erUSUL> !sources > jimmy89
[04:45] <erUSUL> !synaptic > jimmy89
[04:45] <avu> naknomik: aptitude that is
[04:46] <zenmonk> jimmy89: I think easyubuntu has scripts that will enable rars (see http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/overview.html)
[04:46] <avu> naknomik: (sudo aptitude dist-upgrade)
[04:46] <avu> naknomik: it should make a suggestion on how to resolve this
[04:46] <Orbit45244> jimmy89: you can also use WinRAR for Linux
[04:46] <django_> yeah aptitude should be pushed
[04:46] <jimmy89> there is winrar for linux
[04:46] <jimmy89> that would do fine
[04:46] <avu> django_: yeah, it's clearly superior in most (althtough not in all) cases
[04:47] <Orbit45244> rarlabs.com > Download > WinRAR for Linux
[04:47] <avu> wtf :)
[04:47] <avu> you don't want that.
[04:47] <jimmy89> rofl, what do i want unrar?
[04:47] <naknomik> avu: What's the difference between apt-get and aptitude?
[04:47] <orbin> winrar for linux is trial only iirc
[04:47] <django_> avu, well mostly for the removal of unneeded dependencies
[04:48] <django_> i wish apt just did that
[04:48] <frying_fish> jimmy89: just enable multiverse and there is unrar and the rarlabs version in there already
[04:48] <avu> naknomik: well, for one it activly helps you resolve dependency issues :)
[04:49] <naknomik> hummm....
[04:49] <stefg> !rar
[04:49] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[04:49] <jimmy89> yeah im getting unrar atm
[04:49] <avu> naknomik: you can use it just like apt-get
[04:49] <avu> naknomik: (except for build-dep, unfortunatly)
[04:50] <jimmy89> hmm, no progress bar for unraring ?
[04:50] <wheels3572> !bum
[04:50] <ubotu> Boot options: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto
[04:50] <wheels3572> !bum > wheels3572
[04:50] <fjellREV1> is there an easy to use burning program for console?
[04:50] <wthww_> acbot,u alright
[04:50] <Ambimom> does anyone here use skype for linux? does your skypeout work?
[04:51] <bobovski> brb
[04:51] <acbot> wthww
[04:51] <wthww> acbot
[04:51] <acbot> wthww_ hey
[04:51] <wthww> sorry,my internet cut out
[04:51] <acbot> cool
[04:51] <offroadgeek> is there a way to change kernel options before it's installed via the dapper dvd installation process?
[04:52] <nikin> DVD?
[04:52] <avu> offroadgeek: you can go into the menu.lst and change the kernel command line (which i assume you mean by kernel options) before the installer does its reboot
[04:52] <offroadgeek> yes, the dvd install disk (downloaded)
[04:53] <frogzoo> offroadgeek: you pass them to the installer's kernel from the prompt 'linux noacpi etc etc'
[04:53] <avu> offroadgeek: the new installation is mounted under /target IIRC
[04:53] <nikin> maybe i am blind.. i have just seen CD
[04:53] <avu> nikin: you are (blind) :)
[04:53] <nikin> avu: tj
[04:53] <nikin> ty
[04:53] <jimmy89> ty guys unrar worked well
[04:53] <avu> nikin: the dvd is just the desktop and alternative CDs combined, thuogh
[04:53] <gyro54> thanks all for your help
[04:54] <nikin> avu: and where can i download that? i have just seen CD-s on the europen mirrors
[04:54] <dreamthief> hey guys, does anybody of you know how to combine two single gigabit-ethernet connections to a "trunk", so that I have a redundand 2-gigabit connection that is reachable by a single ip-address ?
[04:55] <Ambimom> @dreamthief:  you can use grabit on ubuntu?
[04:55] <nikin> 2 mac adresses with one IP?
[04:55] <uniq> dreamthief: yes you can.
[04:55] <Ambimom> wow
[04:55] <dreamthief> yess, you need a switch which supports port-trunking ...
[04:55] <Ambimom> do you need wine to use grabit?
[04:55] <dreamthief> i have one
[04:56] <avu> nikin: http://ie.releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-cdimage/releases/6.06/release/ is one of the europen mirrors carrying the dvd
[04:56] <avu> nikin: it's not on every mirror
[04:56] <bbrazil> dreamthief: if you poke around in /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/ there's an option for it iirc
[04:56] <dreamthief> okay, thank you *g*
[04:56] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys I have just boot from a dapper livecd, i have a 60gig drive with ubuntu already on it... My problem is my windows drive died taking the bootloader and 20 odd gig of music with it  :( .. How can i quickly put the grub bootloader back on and get back to working in my reasonably well setup ubuntu system?
[04:57] <nikin> avu: i used this site to download stuff: http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/?C=S;O=A
[04:57] <Orbit45244> !dbus
[04:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about dbus - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:57] <nikin> but thanx :D i will download it tomorrow
[04:57] <Paddy_EIRE> !grub
[04:57] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:57] <frogzoo> dreamthief: you mean something like this: http://www.devco.net/archives/2004/11/26/linux_ethernet_bonding.php
[04:58] <avu> paddy_eire: from the live CD: mount your ubuntu install, "sudo grub-install --root-directory=/your/ubuntu/root /dev/hda"
[04:59] <frogzoo> dreamthief: from the looks of things, you want ifenslave2.6
[04:59] <avu> paddy_eire: assuming hda is your main hdd and you want to install grub to the mbr
[04:59] <finalbeta> is their a place to follow edgy? see what it will be, what's done?
[04:59] <frogzoo> finalbeta: #ubuntu+1 ?
[04:59] <Paddy_EIRE> avu i get errors when mounting this drive just like the first time i tried to install
[04:59] <finalbeta> frogzoo, thnx
[04:59] <nikin> frogzoo: can i do this with every kind of network adapters? like an USB hub with 4x 120Mbps Wlanadapters?
[04:59] <avu> paddy_eire: what errors?
[05:00] <thinh> anyone know how to redo the sharing ?
[05:00] <finalbeta> frogzoo, got a website 2? :p
[05:00] <Paddy_EIRE> error: device /dev/hdc1 is not removable
[05:00] <Paddy_EIRE> error: could not execute pmount
[05:00] <dreamthief> frogzoo, your the best ;)
[05:00] <thinh> i am trying to connect linux to linux ?
[05:00] <avu> paddy_eire: what exact command did you enter to get this error?
[05:00] <Paddy_EIRE> clicked the drive
[05:00] <ArcAnge1> is there someone here who can help me with an installation problem of ubuntu
[05:01] <avu> paddy_eire: open a terminal, do 'sudo mount /dev/hdc1 /mnt'
[05:01] <dreamthief> and yes, I mean something like that
[05:01] <nikin> thinh: samba shares?
[05:01] <offroadgeek> frogzoo:  I don't think I asked the right question
[05:01] <avu> paddy_eire: (you are sure hdc1 is the ubuntu root, right?)
[05:01] <Paddy_EIRE> avu yeah thats it
[05:01] <synic> ArcAnge1: just ask your question.
[05:02] <avu> paddy_eire: ok, did that command execute without error?
[05:02] <offroadgeek> frogzoo:  I'm wondering if during the installation process (dvd/cd, whatever), can I change the kernel options (same as modifying .config before building a custom kernel)?
[05:02] <Paddy_EIRE> no error
[05:02] <avu> paddy_eire: then, in the same terminal, do 'grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/hda'
[05:02] <offroadgeek> frogzoo:  that way the kernel that is installed already has the options I want, without having to build a custom kernel after
[05:02] <TheMoebius> I want to make a launcher for running kate as root. how can I get that gnome root password prompt (or the kde one)? Whats the gui version of sudo?
[05:02] <avu> paddy_eire: or, maybe /dev/hdc at the end
[05:03] <avu> paddy_eire: the last argument says, where the grub boot manager is installed.
[05:03] <avu> paddy_eire: in most cases, that's the mbr of the first drive, so hda is often right
 rm: cannot remove `/mnt/boot/grub/stage1': Permission denied
[05:03] <avu> paddy_eire: oh, forgot the sudo, sorry
[05:04] <avu> paddy_eire: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/hda
[05:04] <Paddy_EIRE> avu silly me i didnt even notice
[05:05] <Paddy_EIRE> avu where could i paste the output for u
[05:05] <nikin> !make
[05:05] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:05] <avu> paddy_eire: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[05:05] <ArcAnge1> i have downloaded the iso from the ubuntu site burned it to cd and tryd it from cd and i liked it so i choose the installer from the desktop but at the end of the install i get the message that the installer crashed
[05:05] <Howitzer> !mplayer
[05:05] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer
[05:05] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[05:06] <nikin> is the build-essential package inclooded on one of the CD-s? its not on the live cd
[05:06] <avu> nikin: it isn't
[05:06] <RichardUK> ubuntu 5.10 won't seem to run any shell scripts.  i double click on them and select Run, but the program never runs.
[05:06] <thinh> what is the manual command to connect to another linux box setting up nfs sharing?
[05:07] <Paddy_EIRE> avu http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19777
[05:07] <nikin> avu: then what should i do, i have a wlancard and drivers are in source format, and without it i cant connect to internet...
[05:07] <minerale> I made two orders for cds, one was approved but the other was rejected, why is that ?
[05:07] <thinh> or how do u connect to another linux box, i have a sharing setup i can ping the other linux box
[05:07] <ArcAnge1> i hope someone can help me with it......
[05:07] <avu> paddy_eire: ok, looks good, try rebooting. if everything went as well as I think it did, you should get your grub.
[05:08] <avu> paddy_eire: if not, check your BIOS settings
[05:08] <Paddy_EIRE> avu nice one mate
[05:08] <orbin> RichardUK: can you run them in a terminal?
[05:08] <hyperstream> hello, ive just installed a new wireless adapter. and used ndiswrapper to install the windows INF, install correctly iwconfig shows ra0 etc.. i using the gnome manager and trying to enable wep, (key being on the router: 123ABC1233 (64bit)) any ideas to why it wont assign a ip4 ipaddress etc
[05:08] <thinh> when i run network server all i see is windows network
[05:08] <avu> nikin: you could burn a CD with the packages on another computer
[05:08] <avu> nikin: I think I saw a HOWTO for something like that a while ago
[05:09] <avu> nikin: let me check to see if I can find it
[05:09] <thinh> avu u there?
[05:09] <RichardUK> orbin: they don't run in terminal either.  you run them simply by typign the name of the shell script without the .sh extension, am i correct?
[05:09] <RichardUK> typing*
[05:09] <void^> RichardUK: you cannot omit parts of the filename.
[05:09] <wthww> hyperstream: ive never gotten encryption to work onmine, i justlock my router by the mac address
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> sh whatever.sh
[05:10] <nikin> wthww: you want WPA?
[05:10] <frogzoo> nikin: ethernet bonding is limited to ethernet only, afaik
[05:10] <orbin> RichardUK: there ya go, thanks Dr_Willis , void^
[05:10] <avu> nikin: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/07/08/installing-packages-on-computers-with-slow-connections-redux/ might help
[05:10] <wthww> nilkin:nope, just wep
[05:10] <hyperstream> hmm
[05:10] <avu> nikin: (if not, the article linked at the beginning might)
[05:10] <thinh> anyone have a fix for nvidia ? everytime i halt ot reboot the screen goes blank bu it is shutting down in the back ground
[05:11] <avu> thinh: yeah. you want to mount a nfs share, right?
[05:11] <avu> oh, another problem already. :)
[05:11] <avu> thinh: please use the channel to communicate with me
[05:11] <RichardUK>  error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:12] <Warbo> WINE won't die, is there any way of killing it besides -s KILL?
[05:12] <cowmilk> . i want to get ipod support on gpodder. http://perli.net/projekte/gpodder/dependencies.html says that one of the required files, python-gpod, is available in ubuntu's repo, but it's not.
[05:12] <thinh> i am trying to connect to another linux box
[05:12] <avu> thinh: has the other linux bos a nfs server ready set up?
[05:12] <thinh> i have nfs sharing enable and can pink my other box
[05:12] <RichardUK> i'm stuck :(
[05:12] <thinh> that i dont know
[05:12] <avu> thinh: are you the admin of both boxen?
[05:12] <thinh> when i use nautulis right click share folder it did install some files
[05:12] <cowmilk> that same page gives instructions on how to get python-gpod, but when i install the depends, it says one filel,ibfreetype6-dev, is "broken".
[05:13] <thinh> yeah
[05:13] <void^> !info libstdc++5
[05:13] <ubotu> libstdc++5: The GNU Standard C++ Library v3. In repository main, is optional. Version 1:3.3.6-10 (dapper), package size 288 kB, installed size 848 kB
[05:13] <void^> ^ RichardUK
[05:13] <knoppix_> hi guys, can anyone tell me how to wipe the partition data from a hard disc, so that it's as new?
[05:13] <thinh> i am log in as a normal user
[05:13] <avu> thinh: Well. I can help you set up NFS vi the command line. I don't know how to do it via GNOME, though.
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> !nfs
[05:13] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[05:13] <wthww> you know, i have to give the ubuntu community something, my mother made it through an ubuntu install all by herself... and she couldnt even install windows! its to easy :P
[05:13] <Warbo> knoppix_: To completely blank a drive you could cat /dev/zero > /dev/devicename
[05:14] <thinh> i c
[05:14] <avu> thinh: oh, and, yeah, what dr_willis made ubotu say :)
[05:14] <knoppix_> warbe, thanks, I'll try that
[05:14] <guem> any idea what this is: "psmouse.c: Wheel Mouse at isa0060/serio4/input0 lost synchronization, throwing 3 bytes away"
[05:14] <thinh> is there anyway i can get back the share samba function for nautilus?
[05:14] <thinh> i dont get that functionality once i enable nfs
[05:15] <Warbo> guem: Do you have a serial mouse on an ISA interface?
[05:15] <guem> Warbo: usb mouse on ps/2 port
[05:15] <Warbo> guem: If you do then it sounds like it lost track of the mouse for a bit, and has tried to catch up with it
[05:15] <avu> thinh: if enabling NFS really is what disabled samba, that's a bug I think. I have a hard time believing that, though.
[05:16] <nikin> avu: it will help me out... thx
[05:16] <RichardUK> thanks everybody
[05:16] <TheMoebius> how can I get one package from edgy if I don't want to completely upgrade  to edgy?
[05:16] <guem> Warbo: my mouse goes real "crazy" when this thing occurs.. it happens once every 2 hours or so
[05:16] <thinh> i cant select that option no more
[05:16] <Warbo> guem: Oh, then that seems to be the furthest thing from yours (PS/2 port is probably handled by PCI somewhere down the line)
[05:16] <Warbo> TheMoebius: packages.ubuntu.com
[05:17] <slavik> any ideas on why the ubuntu install would fail with setting up the partitioner at 50%?
[05:17] <thinh> when i right click in nautilus under share folders the only option to choose is nfs, but when i did it first time it gave me the option to share using samba
[05:17] <nikin> slavik: SATA2?
[05:17] <Warbo> I found the installer crashed, and it asked me to send an error report. It turned out I had the filesystems it was trying to format mounted. I unmounted and restarted the installer and it worked
[05:18] <nikin> thinh: there is a program in System menu, called shared folders, try that
[05:18] <hyperstream> hello, ive just installed a new wireless adapter. and used ndiswrapper to install the windows INF, install correctly iwconfig shows ra0 etc.. i using the gnome manager and trying to enable wep, (key being on the router: 123ABC1233 (64bit)) any ideas to why it wont assign a ip4 ipaddress etc
[05:18] <hyperstream> ive had wpa_supp working
[05:18] <hyperstream> but my router is being lameish
[05:18] <hyperstream> anyway i can tell gnome to use 64bit
[05:18] <hyperstream>  i think thats the issue
[05:18] <slavik> nikin: sATA1
[05:19] <slavik> nikin: is it the missing libata?
[05:19] <thinh> i tried doesnt give me choice to share anothing besides nfs
[05:19] <thinh> or remove
[05:19] <slavik> I even tried the edgy 8/3 daily build and that didn't even get to the desktop
[05:19] <BeBraw> can you configure ubuntu to open certain programs on certain workspaces on startup?
[05:19] <slavik> burning the knot1 cd right now
[05:19] <nikin> thinh: reinstalling samba?
[05:19] <frogzoo> TheMoebius: it's pretty unlikely an edgy package will run - you'd be best to build from source if you absolutely must have it
[05:19] <nikin> slavik: dunno
[05:19] <Warbo> Can anybody tell me how to kill "/usr/bin/../lib/../bin/wine-pthread winecfg.exe" (which in itself seems really dodgy), since kill -s KILL won't do it?
[05:19] <minerale> Hi, could someone tell me what the name of the 'effect' that apperas when you launch or minimise or maximise windows: it's a shadow effect of the border growing and minimising...
[05:20] <frogzoo> Warbo: wineserver -k ?
[05:20] <Warbo> BeBraw: E16 window manager can remember the location of windows, but I don't think metacity can
[05:20] <BeBraw> Warbo: can gnome do it?
[05:20] <Warbo> frogzoo: Nope :(
[05:21] <frogzoo> Warbo: wineboot ?
[05:21] <Warbo> BeBraw: Metacity is GNOME's window manager, so I don't think so
[05:21] <frogzoo> Warbo: xkill ?
[05:21] <BeBraw> Warbo: alright. thanks
[05:22] <Warbo> 1) Looks like wineboot has crashed as well, 2) No window to kill since it didn't get as far as appearing
[05:22] <Raito> Why do I not have write access as a user on this partition? Here is my fstab line '/dev/sda7       /home/sokuban/.vba ext3 defaults,user   0       0' I made sure to mount it as a user but I still can't write as a user
[05:22] <Warbo> BeBraw: I use E16 in GNOME by the way, but it's a bit of a big change just to get windows to open on certain workspaces
[05:23] <Warbo> Raito: Do you have permissions on the directory it is mounted to?
[05:23] <BeBraw> yup. it would be a timesaver but not worth the hassle atm. thanks for help :)
[05:23] <thinh> i have nfs-common and nfs-kernel-server running
[05:23] <frogzoo> Raito: now it's mounted - it's reading the permissions from the ext file system - you want sudo chown, or sudo chmod
[05:24] <flodine> anyone running openbox and gnome with ubuntu
[05:24] <Warbo> Can someone please open winecfg and tell me the name of the theme selector in Desktop Integration please? (mine has crashed and I'm updating the Wiki)
[05:24] <wthww> acbot: any luck?
[05:24] <Raito> I believe I have permissions for my own /home I guess I should delete the /.vba directory and remake it as a user?
[05:25] <Raito> (does not know how to use chown or chmod)
[05:25] <Warbo> Raito: Maybe, or chmod it now
[05:25] <Warbo> "man chmod"
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> man pages are our friends
[05:25] <frogzoo> Warbo: it says "install theme"
[05:25] <Warbo> frogzoo: I mean the popup/down menu thing
[05:25] <Warbo> (the theme is already installed)
[05:25] <frogzoo> Warbo: Theme:
[05:26] <Warbo> frogzoo: Cheers
[05:26] <frogzoo> Warbo: Appearance Theme:
[05:27] <britishseapower> Have been very impressed with Ubuntu, like the way it picked up my el cheapo PCI wifi card without additional drivers.
[05:28] <orbin> first distro britishseapower ?
[05:28] <britishseapower> nope.
[05:28] <britishseapower> been a gentoo man for a while.
[05:28] <Raito> alright, I did it with chown, I think this might work
[05:28] <TheMoebius> frogzoo: OK, to put this case in specific context, dapper has libdevil-1.6.7-4 but there are some bugs that were fixed in 1.6.7-5 which is in edgy. if I download the deb for that will it work?
[05:29] <Raito> yep, thanks
[05:29] <britishseapower> but in my experience wifi cards havent been well supported in the past...so was pleasantly surprised that it appeared without any hastles !
[05:29] <wthww> ACBOT!: did it work :P ?
[05:30] <nikin> britshse: i had the same, but my better wifi card isnt supported, and i realy dont know why is my noname supported
[05:31] <Warbo> britishseapower: Gentoo might support the same Wifi cards as Ubuntu, but it's a hell of a job to get anything to work in Gentoo anyway :)
[05:31] <orbin> nikin: use tab-complete ;)
[05:31] <TheMoebius> Warbo: oh, be fair.
[05:31] <frogzoo> TheMoebius: maybe
[05:32] <TheMoebius> frogzoo: is it dangerous to try?
[05:32] <unfun> Why does my connection time out when I'm not using my computer? when I'm downloading something wich takes hours I go out and when I come back the connection has timed out?
[05:32] <acbot> wthww: no sorry :( i can see the device as attached to the router  but no connection
[05:32] <Warbo> unfun: Dialup?
[05:32] <frogzoo> TheMoebius: just the one deb - you should be ok to try
[05:32] <wthww> acbot: are you trying to use encryption?
[05:32] <wthww> acbot: like a wep key?
[05:33] <unfun> I use broadband, this problem occured after me reformated ubuntu
[05:33] <britishseapower> I've seen an option for a "server" install - what's this, what does it do...I might be interested in it as I want to build a headless server.
[05:33] <nikin> wep is working by me
[05:33] <acbot> wthww: i am but i get the same results even when its disabled
[05:33] <frogzoo> TheMoebius: but whatever you do, don't change your repos to edgy, that would spell disaster
[05:33] <wthww> acbot: hmmmm
[05:33] <wthww> nikin: i cant get it to work on my cards with ndiswrapper
[05:33] <Warbo> unfun: Oh, just that dialup tends to cut out occasionally, and I have found that internal modems (like SmartLink) don't realise when the connection has dropped, so they can't redial automatically
[05:34] <orbin> britishseapower: minimal install ... no X/gnome iirc
[05:34] <Raito> I have a question about scripts, a script is basically a set of commands right? So I can just make a script, make it executable, put it in /usr/bin then whenever I type its name it executes?
[05:34] <nikin> my card is supported without ndiswrapper
[05:34] <stefg> britishseapower: Tht's wat you'll prolly eant :-)
[05:34] <wthww> nikin: most my cards are broadcom 43xx
[05:34] <stefg> britishseapower: That's wat you'll prolly want :-) (Omg, my typing :-( )
[05:34] <wthww> andalli can use is ndis wrapper
[05:34] <dragonfire> i'm trying to mount a smb share, but the problem is my share name contains a space in the address, and i cannot change the share name
[05:34] <Warbo> Raito: 1) Put it in /usr/loca/bin (it is neater that way) 2) You need to tell it what to open with, so the first line should be something like "#!/bin/bash"
[05:35] <frogzoo> Raito: many of the stock commands run just that way - including firefox
[05:35] <Warbo> */usr/local/bin
[05:35] <orbin> breathe stefg breathe :)
[05:35] <nikin> i have a Bluetake B001-R or something like hat
[05:35] <unfun> warbo what should I do about the problem?
[05:35] <Warbo> unfun: I don't know sorry :(
[05:35] <Raito> Well what is #!/bin/bash? Is that the normal terminal stuff?
[05:35] <britishseapower> ok...
[05:35] <britishseapower> but can i ssh into it ?
[05:35] <unfun> bah, thanks anyway
[05:35] <britishseapower> without a screen i mean
[05:35] <wthww> nikin:the broadcom cards arnt supported very well
[05:35] <nikin> but i ame still searching for an old card with a chipset that is supported by most Distros without ndiswrapper
[05:35] <frogzoo> Raito: it instructs the link to use that as an interpreter
[05:36] <wthww> nikin: wavelan!
[05:36] <Warbo> Raito: That tells it to open with /bin/bash (the shell). Python scripts should start with "#!/usr/bin/python", etc.
[05:36] <CLibra> Hi can I ask a question about Ubuntu?
[05:36] <dragonfire> can some one please tell me how to resolve a space, such as the web resolution for a space character is %20
[05:36] <nikin> wthwW: wawelan?
[05:36] <avu> clibra: sure, shoot :)
[05:36] <frogzoo> CLibra: go ahead
[05:36] <orbin> stefg: :)
[05:36] <Raito> I think I know bash right? the basic terminal commands I know are bash right? Also what permissions do I need?
[05:36] <wthww> nikin:the wifi chipset that started it all.it is the most widely supported in my experience
[05:36] <CLibra> If I order one CD, will I be able to install on multiple machines, or will it be like Windows and Mac OSX, only one CD per machine?
[05:37] <avu> clibra: you can install on as many computers as you want
[05:37] <Warbo> Raito: Yes, bash is the normal terminal shell. I use "chmod u+x filename" to make it executable for the user (I htink)
[05:37] <CLibra> Thanks
[05:37] <frogzoo> Raito: to run, a script needs read & execute permission
[05:37] <CLibra> bye
[05:37] <avu> clibra: you can even copy the CD and give it to all your friends :)
[05:37] <avu> damn :)
[05:37] <dEn_> hi guys . when i give the top command i get a process called watchdog. But i cant any documentation on it . What is this process for .Its pid is always 3
[05:37] <frogzoo> that was short and  sweet
[05:37] <Raito> ok
[05:37] <Raito> I am going to try it now
[05:38] <britishseapower> wavelan doesn't work for me ??
[05:38] <matt0440> i am running linux and i just bought windows xp. how can i boot xp? because it is not booting on startup????
[05:38] <wthww> britishseapower: you have a wavelan chipset?
[05:38] <wthww> britishseapower:and it doesnt work?
[05:39] <unfun> What should I install to get my sound to work?
[05:39] <shawnr_> i've read that the 32bit ver of firefox under ubuntu 64 looks like crap, somthing about it using old gtk libs... anyone know anything about this?
[05:39] <idel> dEn_: http://linux.about.com/cs/linux101/g/watchdog.htm
[05:39] <nu> morning
[05:39] <Raito> wow! scripts are nice, it doesn't even show the terminal
[05:39] <stefg> !info watchdog
[05:39] <ubotu> watchdog: software watchdog. In repository universe, is extra. Version 5.2.4-5 (dapper), package size 55 kB, installed size 240 kB
[05:39] <unfun> !sound
[05:39] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[05:39] <wasabi> matt, you need to install linux second, or repair it with a live cd or something.
[05:39] <britishseapower> nah..
[05:39] <britishseapower> i mean the app
[05:39] <britishseapower> oh...sorry wavemon
[05:39] <wasabi> matt, windows MUST be on the first partition on the disk.
[05:39] <dEn_> thanks idel
[05:39] <Raito> before I used a launcher but the terminal kept coming up
[05:39] <wthww> lol
[05:39] <britishseapower> i meant wavemon, doesnt work for my wifi card
[05:39] <Jincast> hey everyone
[05:39] <wasabi> matt, Also, when you install it, it will overwrite the MBR without giving you an option to do otherwise. That will remove the Grub boot menu.
[05:39] <matt0440> is there a code i can type in the terminal to boot the cd?
[05:39] <wasabi> Uh. No.
[05:39] <dEn_> do i need antivirus with linux. if so is there any thing as easy as Nortan with a gui
[05:40] <wasabi> Reboot.
[05:40] <wthww> britishseapower: wavelan was like, the original 802.11b chipset widely available
[05:40] <nikin> i have to get such a card somewhere, its like a nirvana for me :D
[05:40] <shawnr_> i've read that the 32bit ver of firefox under ubuntu 64 looks like crap, somthing about it using old gtk libs... anyone know anything about this?
[05:40] <TheMoebius> frogzoo: OK, it depends on a newer version of libc6 which depends on a newer version of locales, but thats as far as the chain goes i think. what do you think, is something as crucial as libc6 safe to upgrade?
[05:40] <wasabi> Also, unless you plan, it's going to wipe out Linux.
[05:40] <wasabi> It gives no choice whatsoever to multiboot.
[05:40] <avu> den_: you don't need antivirus software with linux
[05:40] <frogzoo> TheMoebius: no no and NO
[05:40] <stefg> dEn_: no need for antivirus. Only if you want to scan mail for win-malware
[05:40] <tomveens> you can get anti-virus software but you don't need it
[05:40] <TheMoebius> frogzoo: hehe ok then
[05:40] <frogzoo> TheMoebius: don't go there, don't even think it :)
[05:40] <wthww> nikin: specifically, you want a "wavelan gold"
[05:41] <nu> 
[05:41] <dEn_> why dont virus's attack linux ?
[05:41] <brotakul> hi people. the problem is that my ubuntu show the whole name of my folders. so for the long titles they look like 2-3 inch long :). how can i make it use "..." after a number of characters so the title of the folders to be shorter?
[05:41] <nikin> why i want gold?
[05:41] <wasabi> Because nobody writes them.
[05:41] <wasabi> Someday. ;)
[05:41] <Milky> Hello! When I boot the computer it halts at "mounting root file system"
[05:41] <idel> but there are antivirus that work with linux
[05:41] <avu> den_: some say it's because linux does not have enough users yet to be interesting to virus authors
[05:41] <nikin> thats something special?
[05:41] <tomveens> it gets attacked but there are fixes
[05:41] <wthww> nikin: it has all features, ie, wep support :P
[05:41] <wasabi> idle, usually only for scanning files, not memory.
[05:41] <idel> those are for windows use?
[05:41] <nikin> nice
[05:41] <idel> :O
[05:41] <wasabi> idel, of for scanning files/mail to be used by windows.
[05:41] <wthww> nikinL basically better firmware
[05:41] <tomveens> aegis is a virus-scanner
[05:41] <stefg> Milky: what kind of CPU?
[05:41] <wasabi> idel, from a server prospective.
[05:41] <nikin> one of my frients has a lucent card
[05:42] <cowmilk> how do i know if i am using python 4 or python 3?
[05:42] <Milky> stefg, athlonx xp 3000+
[05:42] <dEn_> avu: can youl recomend one with a gui
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> python --version
[05:42] <britishseapower> anyone know about wavemon on here
[05:42] <avu> den_: as I said, you do not need antivirus software.
[05:42] <wthww> nikin: also, you can use wavelan cards in macs doiwn to os 7.0
[05:42] <stefg> Milky: welcome to the club... it's a bug. But teh good news is, that it's not halting, it just waits about 30 secs
[05:42] <idel> ok, linux dont care viruses, is just for windows clients?
[05:42] <cowmilk> Dr4g:  that's an unknown command
[05:43] <Milky> stefg, waited longer than that I think
[05:43] <unfun> Why doesn't my sound work after reformating ubuntu?
[05:43] <frogzoo> dEn_: linux generally has a better security model, and vulnerabilities get patched promptly
[05:43] <britishseapower> when i try to run it i get "fatal error: could not get range iformation"?
[05:43] <tomveens> use linux? do not use virus-scanner? you use linux!
[05:43] <Warbo> unfun: Sounds like you shouldn't have reformatted :)
[05:43] <dEn_> avu : okay.  i want to know . ive scanned all my ports and they are closed . does  that mean my machine is secure.
[05:43] <Milky> stefg, but why does it happen
[05:43] <stefg> Milky:  would you be so kind to add a comment to https://launchpad.net/bugs/48186
[05:43] <Milky> ?
[05:43] <avu> idel: yeah. my mailservers scan for viruses. not to protect themselfes but to protect the windows users behind them. :)
[05:43] <shawnr_> Is there a ubuntu64bit channel?
[05:43] <frogzoo> cowmilk: python
[05:43] <tomveens> search freenode for it
[05:43] <brotakul> hi people. the problem is that my ubuntu show the whole name of my folders. so for the long titles they look like 2-3 inch long :). how can i make it use "..." after a number of characters so the title of the folders to be shorter?
[05:44] <avu> den_: keep your box up to date and it will be secure, yes
[05:44] <wasabi> brotakul: Don't think you can.
[05:44] <dragonfire> when i run the command mount //server/disk 1 /mountpoint, it tells me that the mount point "1" cannot be found
[05:44] <dpupp> Got a question i just got done installing linux on a hdd and moved that hdd to another machine... its comeing back as xorg.conf
[05:44] <idel> :O I like viruses, the sound that antivirus make when found one ... :'(
[05:44] <wthww> nikin: you can get them off of ebay relatively cheaply, so dontpay a high price
[05:44] <wasabi> brotakul: In List View, it doesn't show them. ;)
[05:44] <Warbo> dragonfire: Use a backslash before the space
[05:44] <avu> den_: (as secure as a computer these days can be, that is ;))
[05:44] <brotakul> yeb but in folder view it does :P
[05:44] <dragonfire> ok thanks
[05:44] <wasabi> There will be linux virus someday. Just nobody really cares yet.
[05:44] <nikin> wthww: i think 1000 Ft its about 3,5 Eurs isnt to much :D
[05:44] <hyperstream> hello, ive just installed a new wireless adapter. and used ndiswrapper to install the windows INF, install correctly iwconfig shows ra0 etc.. i using the gnome manager and trying to enable wep, (key being on the router: 123ABC1233 (64bit)) any ideas to why it wont assign a ip4 ipaddress etc
[05:44] <tomveens> brotakul,  maybe find config of nautilus in gconf-editor
[05:44] <hyperstream> ive had wpa_supp working
[05:44] <hyperstream> but my router is being lameish
[05:45] <avu> wasabi: there already are linux viruses
[05:45] <Bazzi> wasabi: on the contrary, people do care yet.
[05:45] <Warbo> dpupp: Run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in a console
[05:45] <hyperstream> anyway i can tell gnome to use 64bit i think this is the issue
[05:45] <wthww> nikin: lol
[05:45] <dEn_> avu: thanks .  guys this is a general question . I have a laptop and i need to know how long can i keep it running without a reboot without inviting any trouble
[05:45] <stefg> Milky: read my bugreport https://launchpad.net/bugs/48186 and add a lscpi -vv and dmesg log of your machine as well. I'm quite disappointed that it's still 'unconfirmed'
[05:45] <wasabi> Sure. I mean, mass user stuff. Mail client vulns, browser vulns, etc.
[05:45] <dpupp> Warbo, will do. brb.
[05:45] <shawnr_> tomvee, gentoo and debian have one. why doesn't ubuntu ;(
[05:45] <Milky> stefg, okey will do that
[05:45] <Bazzi> wasabi: SELinux etc exist... and RedHat wants to push them...
[05:45] <avu> den_: I reboot my laptop only when installing a new kernel.
[05:45] <tomveens> you don't need one
[05:45] <wasabi> Bazzi: Yeah, but they're not widly deployed at all yet.
[05:45] <Milky> but stefg, I think I waited a few mins or so and still no-go.
[05:45] <tomveens> you can have one
[05:45] <wthww> nikin: theres some on ebay for 31$USD-- but this should be in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:46] <dragonfire> thanks alot something that small can break a whole process
[05:46] <tomveens> if it makes you feel better
[05:46] <wasabi> Bazzi: Until they gain traction, we're just as "open" as windows.
[05:46] <avu> den_: (it's in sleep often, of course, but never really off)
[05:46] <nikin> wthww: just lets hope its a wavelan card... i know that is made by Lucent Technologies and can  802.11b and wep, but no WPA
[05:46] <stefg> Milky: what type of FS do you use for root?
[05:46] <shawnr_> i've read that the 32bit ver of firefox under ubuntu 64 looks like crap, somthing about it using old gtk libs... anyone know anything about this?
[05:46] <cowmilk> frogzoo: thanks.
[05:46] <dEn_> avu:  what kind of uptime do u have. cause when i run it for two days the air blown out of the fan is really hot . i got an intel mobile centrino and an acer aspire
[05:46] <Bazzi> wasabi: I expect edgy+1 to contain all this stuff.
[05:46] <Milky> stefg, ext3
[05:46] <minerale> Hi, could someone tell me what the name of the 'effect' that apperas when you launch or minimise or maximise windows: it's a shadow effect of the border growing and minimising...
[05:46] <dEn_> avu: besides the mouse pad gets really  hot.
[05:47] <avu> den_: a few month at best, kernel security upgrades tend to come quite often these days
[05:47] <idel> few month?
[05:47] <avu> den_: you mean really running, no sleep then?
[05:47] <idel> :O
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> minerale,  and you want to disable it?
[05:47] <avu> den_: that's a different kind of animal :)
[05:47] <minerale> dr_willis: yes
[05:47] <meheren> i just bought a guitar and am trying to teach myself to play without paying for lessons... are there any programs that will help? or any programs that at least teach me the notes?
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> minerale,  not seen an easy way :(
[05:47] <nikin> wthww: i try to find some in hungary, coz shipping cost can be very high
[05:47] <dEn_> avu: hmm well i suppose it sleeps for 8 hours a day
[05:47] <meheren> *to read notes
[05:47] <avu> den_: you have to ask someone who knows your hardware. I only use apple for laptops :(
[05:48] <nikin> but i try to get 3-4 pcs but this is realy end coz its offtopic
[05:48] <minerale> dr_willis: but before I start asking, what's it named, who manages it? metacity?
[05:48] <dEn_> avu : okay . but i guess its the same :( god i wish i had an apple , thats the next one i am going to get.
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> minerale,  yes
[05:48] <cowmilk>  i'm on step 6 (http://perli.net/projekte/gpodder/dependencies.html), which is "run make". how exactly do i run make?
[05:48] <stefg> Milky: hmmm, that might affect it. you can try the following options: 1:) add acpi=off to the boot parameters 2.) remove 'quiet splash' from the boot-parameters. 3.) unplug your CD-rom (nahhh, this isn't Starforce copy protection :-) )
[05:48] <_Spire_> can anyone help me? it seems that something's wrong with gconf. it complains about missing schemas.
[05:48] <idel> dEn_: maybe disabling some services, that works with my laptop, amd semprom
[05:49] <Milky> stefg, what is acpi?
[05:49] <avu> den_: well, I guess my iBook would get into trouble when running >20h without sleep and with constant CPU activity, too... :)
[05:49] <idel> lol
[05:49] <Milky> stefg, I'll try and do those things
[05:49] <avu> den_: I seldom use it for more than a few hours at a time. and even then, the CPU rarly runs at full speed.
[05:49] <cowmilk> how do i "run make"?
[05:49] <avu> !make
[05:49] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:49] <orbin> _Spire_: have you fiddled with anything lately?
[05:49] <shawnr_> i have amd64 3700+ runnung ubuntu 64... should i use the k8 kernel?
[05:50] <stefg> Milki _a_dvanced _p_ower _configuration _i_nterface
[05:50] <avu> shawnr_: yep
[05:50] <shawnr_> thanks
[05:50] <meheren> cow milk type "make" in a terminal
[05:50] <_Spire_> orbin: installed Xgl, but that was quite a while ago.
[05:50] <dEn_> avu: i need to write visual basic programs but i am running only linux . is there any equivalent or do i have to install vmware
[05:50] <shawnr_> avu, what about the "k8-smp" version, i don't know what that is
[05:50] <Milky> stefg, OK. another thing though, how do I change the boot parameters?
[05:51] <cowmilk> meheren: i did, but bash: make: command not found
[05:51] <RichardUK> ubuntu 5.10 gives me this error while trying to compile gtkpod
[05:51] <RichardUK> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[05:51] <meheren> cowmilk...
[05:51] <frogzoo> cowmilk: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:51] <avu> den_: oo.o has a scripting language that comes close to VBA and there is a vb.net project for mono I think. but still, if you really want to develop real VB apps running on real windows machines, you better use vmware
[05:51] <avu> den_: never good to use a fundamentaly different setup on the devel machines than the clients have ;)
[05:51] <idel> dEn_: install gambas, it's a good choice but just for linux
[05:52] <stefg> Milky: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.list . But be careful... this is an important file for the bootloader grub, so if you mess it up, your machine could have trouble to boot
[05:52] <dEn_> okay thanks oo.o right
[05:52] <meheren> oh! ubuntu doesn't come with them?
[05:52] <avu> shawnr_: smp ist for Symetric Multi Processors
[05:52] <Milky> stefg, OK, but the problem is, I'm not at that computer atm... can't get into console there
[05:52] <shawnr_> avu, for HT too right?
[05:52] <frogzoo> !info build-essential
[05:52] <avu> shawnr_: aka when you have more than one CPU, you need this kernel
[05:52] <cowmilk> frogzoo: why cant' i just do " sudo aptitude install make"?
[05:52] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In repository main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[05:52] <dEn_> okay thanks idel .
[05:52] <_Spire_> orbin: I think I might have broken my machine using these: http://gnomefiles.org/app.php/Desktop+Optimization
[05:52] <shawnr_> avu, isn't HT seen by the kernel at 2 cpus?
[05:52] <dEn_> see ya later guys  . thanks for the help.
[05:52] <_Spire_> orbin: recommended by someone on the ubuntuforums
[05:53] <avu> shawnr_: hm, AFAIK, HT works with the UP kernel, too
[05:53] <frogzoo> cowmilk: how you install build-essential is entirely immaterial
[05:53] <avu> shawnr_: but I am not sure
[05:53] <cowmilk> frogzoo: huh?
[05:53] <Milky> stefg, is there a way to edit menu.lst from the boot loader, or something?
[05:53] <dpupp> when installing ubuntu dapper, should it be desktop? oem or server? i picked oem... didnt really know the difference.
[05:53] <cowmilk> when i installed "make" it did not require build-essential
[05:54] <_Spire_> dpupp: you should generally go with desktop
[05:54] <avu> cowmilk: build-essential is a meta package. it is not required, it just requires :)
[05:54] <frying_fish> cowmilk: yeah it won't, build essential is just a meta package that includes make, one is not dependant on the other.
[05:54] <orbin> _Spire_: what do you mean by gconf complaining?  do you get an error box popping up?  and what is the exact error?
[05:54] <meheren> why is it that in order to run kde programs kde has to be running but to run gnome programs you don't even have to have gnome installed?
[05:54] <stefg> Milky: understandable if it doesn't boot..:-( try hitting [Esc]  at boottime, to get to the boot menu... press 'e' on the relevant menu entry to let you edit it (the 'kernel' line).. remove quit splash from it. then hit 'b' to boot
[05:54] <dpupp> Warbo, that worked ^_^  im at the prompt on ubuntu.
[05:54] <ufktux> is there a vmware-tools ubuntu package?
[05:54] <_Spire_> orbin: well, there are different errors. I'll collect them all and pastebin them
[05:54] <shriphani> how do i reset the default font settings ?
[05:54] <frogzoo> cowmilk: you installed make?
[05:54] <frying_fish> ufktux: you have vmware installed yes?
[05:54] <AngryElf> guys, mythtv is saying the /dev/dsp is being used by something else, so i'm not getting any sound....any ideas?
[05:54] <frying_fish> boot a vm, then it allows you to do it from in the program
[05:54] <matt0440> how do i delete all ubuntu????
[05:54] <Milky> Ah, okey. Thanks stefg, will try that.
[05:55] <orbin> meheren: er, not true afaik.  kde apps can be run in gnome and vice versa ... they just need their libs.
[05:55] <ufktux> frying_fish: yes
[05:55] <frying_fish> matt0440: sudo rm -rf /
[05:55] <Warbo> dpupp: Wow, you just caught me. To restart X use "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[05:55] <matt0440> i wan put xp
[05:55] <ufktux> frying_fish: vmware-tools doesn't detect i have X installed
[05:55] <matt0440> frying-fish what will that do??
[05:55] <meheren> orbin but when i run them they complain and give all kinds of different errors... ect
[05:55] <frying_fish> ufktux: well thats odd, run the virtual machine, and it will do it itself, I know I just downloaded vmware from their site and installed it.
[05:55] <zazeem> can i get help please
[05:55] <frying_fish> matt0440: it will delete all your stuff
[05:55] <FuriousRage> !chroot
[05:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about chroot - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:55] <orbin> _Spire_: but how are the errors coming up? i.e. just randomly?  or when you run stuff?
[05:56] <frogzoo> matt0440: and eat your children
[05:56] <matt0440> delete all linux?
[05:56] <ufktux> frying_fish: i can't get X up and running
[05:56] <dpupp> warbo, i remember that command ^_^
[05:56] <frying_fish> on the virtual machine?
[05:56] <recon0> Whenever I try to start up dosemu, I get "ERROR: Unable to open console to evaluate the keyboard map. Please specify your keyboard map explicitly via the $_layout option". Can anybody help me w/ that?
[05:56] <avu> zazeem: just ask your question and we'll see :)
[05:56] <orbin> meheren: gnome apps in kde you mean?
[05:56] <ufktux> yeah
[05:56] <Warbo> matt0440: Use GParted (it's on the Ubuntu LiveCD) to delete the partitions, then restore XP's bootloader
[05:56] <unfun> What do I have to install to be able to player internet radio? I have xmms installed but I still can't play internet radio.
[05:56] <shriphani> dpupp, how do i reset default font settings ?
[05:56] <meheren> orbin no kde apps in gnome
[05:56] <frying_fish> ok, well I haven't actually tried a vm install of linux yet.
[05:56] <zazeem> avu: you know the ubuntu icon, the system one when you click it you get all the menus
[05:56] <ufktux> i see, k thanks
[05:56] <RichardUK> ubuntu 5.10 gives me this:checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[05:56] <neutrinomass> frying_fish: It won't even delete all of Ubuntu. It will just leave you with an unusable system.
[05:56] <zazeem> avu: is there a way to change the icon?
[05:56] <RichardUK> i've searched the forums but not really found a solid answer
[05:56] <orbin> meheren: are you installing them via apt/synaptic?
[05:56] <_Spire_> orbin: when I run stuff. Mainly when I try to start the themer app and when I install an application thru app that tries to write stuff into the gconf database
[05:57] <frying_fish> neutrinomass: for his requirements it would delete it
[05:57] <frying_fish> until it starts deleting the stuff it needs to continue deleting.
[05:57] <avu> zazeem: there is.
[05:57] <meheren> orbin, aptitude
[05:57] <human> Hi all how can i enable openGL support on my AMD -a7n8xvm  System?
[05:57] <matt0440> warbo: how do i get to gparted from the ubuntu cd
[05:57] <zazeem> avu: how?
[05:57] <dpupp> shripahni, im not sure ^_^ i just started using dapper today... 5 mins so far... after 6 hours of installation issues. ^_^ but im there now!
[05:57] <shriphani> Warbo, how do i reset the font settings ?
[05:57] <_Spire_> orbin: I mean thru apt, not app
[05:57] <shriphani> dpupp, lol
[05:57] <avu> zazeem: hm, there used to be a guide in the wiki how to do it but I guess it's no longer there because now the ubuntu logo already is in there :)
[05:57] <orbin> meheren: it should grab all the stuff it needs then.... so you're saying it's just not one app that's problematic?
[05:57] <unfun> !radio
[05:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about radio - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:57] <frogzoo> RichardUK: you building kernel modules?
[05:57] <Warbo> frying_fish: Anything it needs is loaded in memory, so it WILL delete everything, including itself. It's funny the first time you see "halt: command not found"
[05:57] <avu> zazeem: you have to replace /usr/share/icons/something/something.png or something :)
[05:57] <unfun> !internet radio
[05:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about internet radio - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:57] <RichardUK> frogzoo: just trying to build gtkpod
[05:58] <dpupp> ok, i gotta get sleep.. bbl. Thanks a million warbo! i could not have done it without you.
[05:58] <recon0> Whenever I try to start up dosemu, I get "ERROR: Unable to open console to evaluate the keyboard map. Please specify your keyboard map explicitly via the $_layout option". Can anybody help me w/ that?
[05:58] <zazeem> avu: o ok ill look :) thnx
[05:58] <_Spire_> orbin: plus, none of my keyboard shortcuts work (alt-tab, shift-alt-left/right, etc)
[05:58] <meheren> the prob is not in the installation it's when i run the program any kde program under gnome...
[05:58] <orbin> _Spire_: sounds like maybe one of those scripts stuffed something up? dunno tbh
[05:58] <Warbo> shriphani: System>Preferences>Font (don't fish around for answers)
[05:58] <frying_fish> Warbo: yes, only done it the once though.
[05:58] <frogzoo> RichardUK: I'm wondering if it requires a particular gcc version?
[05:58] <thinh> how can u see the /.wine/ in nautilus?
[05:58] <BeBraw> what does "compiz-gnome: Depends: libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.12.3) but 1.12.2-0ubuntu3 is to be installed" mean?
[05:58] <_Spire_> orbin: is there a gconf backup anywhere?
[05:58] <Warbo> thinh: View>Show Hidden Files
[05:58] <human> Hi all how can i enable openGL support on my AMD -a7n8xvm  System?
[05:58] <shriphani> thanks Warbo wee
[05:59] <frogzoo> thinh: ctrl h
[05:59] <Warbo> BeBraw: Means pango isn't a high enough version (pango draws the text)
[05:59] <iq|mobile> HI
[05:59] <coOLcAT> for some reason my NUMLOCK buttons (minus, plus, *, forward slash) are not working when numlock is ON
[05:59] <matt0440> warbo, so with the ubuntu boot cd i can uninstall linus aka delete all on the hd?
[05:59] <zazeem> avu: i cant find it
[05:59] <avu> zazeem: found it
[05:59] <avu> :)
[05:59] <coOLcAT> sorry, i meant my number pad buttons
[05:59] <avu> zazeem: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/QuickTips#head-4a39da861203314b68627d219703e807e4a575ff
[05:59] <RichardUK> frogzoo: i have "gcc" "gcc-4.0" and "gcc-3.3-base" packages installed, should i only have one of those?
[05:59] <frying_fish> gah, I need libnotify 0.4.2, but I cant compile my own to use /usr like the one in the repo's for it tries to overwrite things, and I can't remove 0.3.2 that ubuntu comes with, since that will remove lots of other things
[05:59] <BeBraw> Warbo: alright. thanks
[05:59] <zazeem> avu: ah thabks
[05:59] <thinh> anyone know how to remove a password on a share when i never gave it a password
[06:00] <Warbo> matt0440: You can remove the partitions, but you can't get rid of the bootloader (GRUB). To do that you need to overwrite it with Windows' one, from within Windows (I don't know what the command in Windows is, since I don't use it)
[06:00] <thinh> i am trying to do smb share but when i try to connect to it, tells me to put in a password but i never provided with one
[06:00] <orbin> _Spire_: i dunno if it's wise, but what about removing ~/.gconf ?  i think it should get regenerated.
[06:00] <frogzoo> RichardUK: usually setting CC=gcc-3.3-base   works with standard makefiles, if that's what needed - then ./configure; make
[06:00] <_Spire_> orbin: I'll try...
[06:00] <zazeem> avu: thabnks :>>
[06:00] <frying_fish> matt0440: if you just want to blank the drive from the livecd thats even easier
[06:01] <frying_fish> just use fdisk
[06:01] <avu> zazeem: what did you put there instead?
[06:01] <zazeem> avu: a conan sword
[06:01] <coOLcAT> anyone have the same number pad problem?  minus and plus and * and / not working with numlock on?
[06:01] <owen_> frostwire is not loading, because it seems it cannot find java, but I installed the latest java jre package from the repositories. any ideas?
[06:01] <zazeem> avu: im making a conan theme :)
[06:01] <frogzoo> RichardUK: CC=gcc-3.4
[06:01] <Warbo> matt0440: GParted can also grow Windows, if you had Windows and Linux on the same drive
[06:01] <matt0440> frying_fish but i can blank the hd from my ubuntu cd?
[06:01] <zazeem> avu: im an avid conan fan
[06:01] <nikin> how can i see what driver does my wlancard use?
[06:01] <frying_fish> to reload the windows bootloader you have to run "fixmbr" or "fixboot" from the windows recovery cd
[06:01] <britishseapower> why wont kismet install?
[06:01] <frying_fish> matt0440: yes.
[06:01] <avu> zazeem: neat. show off a screenshot when it's done. :)
[06:01] <zazeem> avu: will do :) conan the barbarian that is :)
[06:01] <britishseapower> i get "ibmagick6 but it is not installable"
[06:01] <n1gke> Good afternoon everyone.
[06:02] <matt0440> do i need to use terminal?
[06:02] <zazeem> avu: not o brien :D
[06:02] <human> **********Hi all how can i enable openGL support on my AMD -a7n8xvm  System?
[06:02] <frying_fish> matt0440: yes, best way
[06:02] <iq|mobile> Question: Anyone installed Ubuntu from .iso image?
[06:02] <avu> zazeem: conan the gouvernator, already thought so (:
[06:02] <frying_fish> although gparted would blank it
[06:02] <zazeem> avu: is there a way to make the bar at the bottom look like the mac one?
[06:02] <zazeem> avu: ya lol
[06:02] <RichardUK> frogzoo: i read to do that on the forums.  how do you set that variable, i have no clue?
[06:02] <matt0440> what do i type in the termminal to bland the hd?
[06:02] <frying_fish> but if you just want to blank it and install xp on it, thyen just put the xp cd in and start the install, that will offer to blank the thing for you
[06:02] <zazeem> avu: ive seen it done many times but dont get how to
[06:02] <matt0440> blank*
[06:02] <_Spire_> orbin: going to try to get the gconf db to regenerate
[06:02] <Warbo> zazeem: Icons don't go above a certain size in the panel unfortunately. Check out gdesklets for an animated launcher bar
[06:03] <frogzoo> RichardUK: just type it in - but I'd suggest first you install the package gcc-3.3 or gcc-3.4 - whichever you need
[06:03] <avu> zazeem: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnomeLaunchBox seems to be one way
[06:03] <zazeem> thanks
[06:03] <avu> zazeem: gdesklets can do something like that, too
[06:03] <Warbo> zazeem: Try right clicking on some empty panel and go properties. Turn off expand, and make it bigger, then add icons to it
[06:03] <matt0440> frying_fish when i put the windows boot cd in it doesnt boot so should i blank the hd first?
[06:03] <zazeem> Warbo ok
[06:03] <RichardUK> frogzoo: i'll give it a try
[06:03] <avu> zazeem: warbos way does not get you the wobly zoom effect, though ;)
[06:03] <frying_fish> matt0440: no, thats your BIOS setting
[06:03] <Warbo> gdesklets runs slow on my system :(
[06:04] <frying_fish> you aren't set to boot from cd first
[06:04] <frying_fish> just reboot your machine and go to the bios and tell it to load from cd first
[06:04] <skypa> greetings
[06:04] <frying_fish> then boot the windows cd
[06:04] <zazeem> avu: :D
[06:04] <frying_fish> and then it will let you do it, unless of course you have some crazy hardware that windows can't detect
[06:04] <skypa> I was wondering how much of a difference it would make to install the k7 kernel instead of the generic 386 one with a athlon xp 2200+
[06:04] <Warbo> frying_fish: Like a Mac :)
[06:04] <matt0440> frying_fish yea it is in order from cd-drive floppy hd
[06:04] <frying_fish> Skymaker: quite a bit.
[06:05] <triceratops> Does anyone know how I will get the Zoom keys back in edgy's xorg? For me the <Ctrl>+<Alt>+<Num+/-> keys dont work anymore.
[06:05] <frying_fish> matt0440: in that case, with the windows cd in it will boot that
[06:05] <frying_fish> unless the cd is broken
[06:05] <frying_fish> in which case, don't blank your hdd first
[06:05] <matt0440> okay but the cd should boot right?
[06:05] <matt0440> cause i tried
[06:05] <Dodzey> matt0440: pay attention to the screen on boot...it might say "press any key to boot from cd"
[06:05] <Warbo> triceratops: They "zoom" between the resolutions set up in xorg.conf, so if you only have one resolution they won't do anything
[06:05] <frogzoo> Warbo: gdesklets is python - so interpreted, unfortunately
[06:05] <frying_fish> matt0440: yes, if the cd isn't broken
[06:05] <matt0440> it just goes t oselect ubunto versions... recovery mode blah blah
[06:06] <frying_fish> then its clearly not booting the cd
[06:06] <frying_fish> its booting from your hdd
[06:06] <matt0440> ok ill will check the bios then
 Skymaker: quite a bit. <-- was that supposed to be my nick? :)
[06:06] <Dodzey> matt0440: do you have 2 cd-roms?
[06:06] <matt0440> just 1
[06:06] <triceratops> Warbo: I know about that. My xorg.conf hasn't changed and has the same resolutions than before. And tere is no DontZoom line.
[06:06] <frying_fish> make sure a) the cd is in the correct drive, b) its actually booting from that, winxp cd tends to do the "press enter to boot from cd" and then it will do.
[06:06] <Warbo> frogzoo: Yeah. Is adesklets? It isn't as well integrated as gdesklets (just drag .desktop launchers onto the launcher) but may be faster
[06:06] <frying_fish> skypa: yes, I didn't tab enough.
[06:07] <skypa> alright, k7 kernel it is then :)
[06:07] <Warbo> triceratops: Oh, then that might be a question for #ubuntu+1 then
[06:07] <matt0440> i will check bios brb
[06:07] <frogzoo> Warbo: there's an adesklets? hmmm...
[06:07] <Warbo> !info adesklets
[06:07] <ubotu> adesklets: interactive Imlib2 console for the X Window System. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.5.0-2 (dapper), package size 197 kB, installed size 544 kB
[06:07] <Warbo> Seems to be non-interpreted
[06:07] <triceratops> Warbo: Guess what I did 10min before asking here :-))
[06:08] <m4rk> is there any way to hide windows from appearing in the gnome window list
[06:09] <jahshua> !breezy to dapper
[06:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about breezy to dapper - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:09] <jahshua> argh
[06:09] <as> a
[06:09] <jahshua> anyone know the correct command please
[06:09] <FuriousRage> !upgrade
[06:09] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[06:09] <frying_fish> m4rk: stick it on a different workspace?
[06:09] <jahshua> thanks FuriousRage
[06:09] <FuriousRage> ;>
[06:10] <m4rk> OK
[06:10] <britishseapower> why wont kismet install?
[06:10] <britishseapower> i get "ibmagick6 required  but it is not installable"
[06:11] <AngryElf> alright, what device does ubuntu use for sound?
[06:11] <TheEye> HELP!!!!! evil white screen of death
[06:11] <TheEye> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH
[06:11] <Milky> stefg, "understandable if it doesn't boot..:-( try hitting [Esc]  at boottime, to get to the boot menu... press 'e' on the relevant menu entry to let you edit it (the 'kernel' line).. remove quit splash from it. then hit 'b' to boot"
[06:11] <Milky> stefg, you reckon it should atleast boot after that?
[06:12] <AngryElf> anyone?.....what is the device that ubuntu uses for sound?
[06:12] <TheEye> ok im having an issue with the dapper live cd on ppc
[06:12] <orbin> britishseapower: ibmagick?
[06:13] <AngryElf> TheEye, did you download the PPC version?
[06:13] <stefg> Milky: if it'sthe same bug i'm suffering from the usplash (the graphical boot) has something to do with it. You disable it by removing the 'quiet splash' parameters from the kernel line
[06:13] <TheEye> ordered it from linuxcd.org
[06:13] <Peavey> hi all
[06:13] <Milky> stefg, OK
[06:13] <britishseapower> orbin: so? do i need to install that
[06:13] <TheEye> i put it in my ibook g3 and load it up
[06:13] <orbin> britishseapower: i can't find any "ibmagick" packages
[06:14] <orbin> britishseapower: you're installing kismet via an apt tool right?
[06:14] <AngryElf> TheEye, you didn't answer my question: is it, or is it not a ppc CD?
[06:14] <Milky> stefg, but it's also strange... it has worked every time I've booted before.
[06:14] <ubuntu> hola
[06:14] <Milky> did it work before for you as well or didn't right after installation, stefg?
[06:14] <Warbo> frogzoo: Looks like adesklets just facilitates the running of self-contained script files for desklets. And those are pretty much all python :(
[06:14] <orbin> crap, battery's 1% ... sorry, gtg
[06:14] <stefg> Milky: might it be you harddisk or your filesystem broke? Laptop?
[06:15] <Milky> stefg, it's a stationary one
[06:15] <Milky> it's not in this house, that's why I'm not trying anything yet
[06:15] <ogarcia> Hello guys
[06:15] <TheEye> yess its the ppc cd ...it gets to the part where i can choose yaboot (that say yaboot is corrupt) and when i chose live it goes to a white screen that says cant allocate initial device-tree chunk and tells me im in open firmware
[06:15] <stefg> Milky: Either way it's good to see the messages at boot... it'll give you a clue why the friggin' thing refuses to boot
[06:15] <ogarcia> can anybody help me to set up and use the wpa supplicant?
[06:16] <frogzoo> !wpa
[06:16] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:16] <Milky> stefg, that's true
[06:16] <TheEye> also live video=ofonly does the same white screen
[06:17] <TheEye> ne ideas
[06:17] <TheEye> ??
[06:17] <lhds> i have saved the var package install before formating ... how can i reinstall them?
[06:17] <RichardUK> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[06:17] <RichardUK> even after setting CC=gcc-4.0
[06:17] <zazeem> avu: i followed that but ./gnome-logo-icon-transparent.png doesnt exist
[06:17] <Milky> stefg, after I pressed CTRL-ALT-Delete, the system crashed. When Ubuntu booted, that error
[06:17] <ketsugi> Guys, is there any way to install Ubuntu from a floppy drive?
[06:17] <ketsugi> I just acquired an old Toshiba Libretto which only has a floppy
[06:18] <verbose> i just got an lcd and i see horizontal lines scrolling down the screen on white backgrounds...does that mean my refresh rate is too high or too low?
[06:18] <Robert_Zenz> Good Day
[06:18] <britishseapower> orbin - scuse delay
[06:18] <lhds> ketsugi: slackware does
[06:18] <owen_> alright i fixed my problem, i manually installed java under /usr/java the amd64 version
[06:18] <TheEye> i put it in my ibook g3 and load it up
[06:18] <britishseapower> orbin...installing from command line
[06:18] <Robert_Zenz> Does anyone have a DWL-G122 (Rev. C) working?
[06:18] <britishseapower> with the command
[06:18] <lhds>  ketsugi: debian installs from a 180 visit card cdrom
[06:18] <stefg> Milky: that's actually not /so/ bad, because this means the kernel somehow was alive
[06:18] <avu> zazeem: doh. the wiki entry is for 2.10 or .12 I think, maybe the path changed till then
[06:18] <owen_> how do you mount a blank ext3 partition?
[06:18] <zazeem> hmm
[06:18] <avu> zazeem: or the ubuntu folks patched around
[06:18] <britishseapower> "sudo apt-get install kismet"
[06:18] <lhds>  ketsugi try damn small linux but that wont solve your problem
[06:18] <avu> zazeem: sorry :(
[06:19] <TheEye> can ne one help me in here ???
[06:19] <lhds> i have saved the var package install before formating ... how can i reinstall them?
[06:19] <zazeem> avu: np, it must be somewhere, is there a way to search?
[06:19] <verbose> owen_: sudo mount /dev/<device> /mnt/point
[06:19] <TheEye> hello
[06:19] <stefg> Milky: a broken initramfs can also be cause that behaviour
[06:19] <owen_> what is a good mount point? lets say for music files?
[06:19] <nexu> anyone knows why install nvidia-settings removes nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-dev ?
[06:19] <Syncmaster_0_1> hi everybody
[06:19] <Milky> stefg, OK well if that's the case, how would I fix it?
[06:19] <ketsugi> either that or I need to find an old 56k modem I can use with the serial port on this thing
[06:19] <Milky> reinstall Ubuntu? :-/
[06:19] <frogzoo> owen_: /mp3 ?
[06:19] <verbose> owen_: i have mine in /mp3
[06:19] <Warbo> owen_: I have "Files" in my home dir
[06:19] <ketsugi> still need to boot though, hm
[06:19] <shiv> My windows partition mounts fine, but how do I get it to see on desktop?
[06:20] <Dodzey> owen_: /media/music i'd use...
[06:20] <frogzoo> verbose: snap, btw
[06:20] <owen_> alright thank you
[06:20] <TheEye> guess not
[06:20] <Electryfier> I need help with my monitor
[06:20] <verbose> frogzoo: for my resolution?
[06:20] <Dodzey> owen_: it doesn't really matter, its your preference...something which you'll remember if you need it
[06:20] <Syncmaster_0_1> i moved from gentoo to dapper and i can't get utf-8 working with apache2 and php4
[06:20] <samuel> ubuntu-it
[06:20] <verbose> oh, didn't see you said the same thing :P
[06:20] <samuel> #ubuntu-it
[06:20] <TheEye> i need help with my ibook g3
[06:20] <frogzoo> verbose: for mp3
[06:20] <ubuntu4me> hi
[06:20] <stefg> Milky: you need access to the non-bootable system. YOu could boot a Live CD and the chroot into the non bootable system. Have you already tried to boot in recovery mode, bTW?
[06:20] <verbose> gotcha
[06:20] <Electryfier> I need help with my monitor
[06:21] <cowmilk> what does (0 (null)) mean? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19784
[06:22] <zazeem> avu: np, it must be somewhere, is there a way to search?
[06:22] <Milky> stefg, recovery mode, I think so, then there's no splash?
[06:22] <avu> zazeem: not sure, checking myself, mom :)
[06:22] <zazeem> avu: ok
[06:22] <stefg> exactky, Milky
[06:22] <Milky> stefg, it halted at the same time there too
[06:23] <FuriousRage> do ubuntu dapper come default as AU? because im trying to install a chroot enviroment and it tries to set au as locale
[06:23] <Milky> shouting something about irq 10x: bla bla bla
[06:23] <Milky> /dev/hda etc.
[06:23] <stefg> Milky: are you able to boot from CD?
[06:23] <Milky> haven't tried it
[06:23] <finalbeta> Anyone has a tutorial on running games in a seperate X server when you use Xgl?
[06:23] <stefg> That would be interesting
[06:24] <stefg> Milky: Got a Dapper Desktop CD at hand?
[06:24] <avu> zazeem: I think it's /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png
[06:24] <Milky> rofl
[06:24] <owen_> alright i just finished mounting to /media/music do i have to change the permissions on it now for it to be writable?
[06:24] <zazeem> avu: thnx
[06:24] <owen_> or is it because im not using sudo frostwire
[06:24] <frogzoo> cowmilk: I'm guessing , but probably means those packages aren't in apt's cache
[06:24] <adaran> anyone here use opera?
[06:24] <avu> zazeem: (please let me know if it worked)
[06:25] <bl3ssing_> I have an error. I can't open Adept, but only read-only. I want to install something and I can't.
[06:25] <bl3ssing_> apt-get install --reinstall adept
[06:25] <bl3ssing_> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[06:25] <bl3ssing_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[06:25] <bl3ssing_> what does it means ...?
[06:25] <zazeem> avu: ok
[06:25] <cowmilk> frogzoo: i think your guess is wrong
[06:25] <avu> bl3ssing_: you forgot sudo
[06:25] <Milky> stefg, the computer actually isn't mine. I installed Ubuntu for a friend some days ago, that crash happened today... and now, he calls me again. Says it boots as it shuold. What the hell? Problem with the hard drive? :-/
[06:25] <cowmilk> frogzoo: how could, for instance, wget not be included?
[06:26] <stefg> Milky: very much sounds like that
[06:26] <Milky> yeah
[06:26] <snooplsm> Good afternoon everyone
[06:26] <cowmilk> snooplsm: hi
[06:26] <clusty> hello
[06:26] <snooplsm> cowmilk: nice nick
[06:26] <zazeem> avu: brb restarting
[06:26] <bl3ssing_> how to run adept from konsole?
[06:26] <frogzoo> cowmilk: easily, if wget isn't in /var/cache/apt/
[06:27] <bl3ssing_> thank you avu  ... GOT IT!
[06:27] <clusty> i am running dapper. i was wondering where can i get sourcecode for packages from universe
[06:27] <cowmilk> snooplsm: thanks. i used to wake up early in the morning to get this
[06:27] <frogzoo> clusty: enable the source repos - then apt-get source pkgname
[06:27] <avu> clusty: sure. have the coresponding deb-src line in your sources.list, then you can apt-get source foo
[06:27] <bl3ssing_> clusty, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades
[06:27] <zazeem> avu: omg it worked, looks so awsome
[06:27] <medelkass> Is there any support for Sound Blaster X-Fi in ubuntu?
[06:27] <cowmilk> from the animals
[06:27] <stefg> Milky: i frequently encounter people in here with a screwed partiton table (they were using stuff like partition magic)... would be worth a check also
[06:27] <avu> zazeem: huray
[06:27] <zazeem> avu: lol
[06:27] <cowmilk> frogzoo: i don't get it
[06:27] <zazeem> avu: thnx
[06:28] <owen_> how do you change the permissions to a hard drive?
[06:28] <cowmilk> how could a program not be incluedd?
[06:28] <zazeem> avu: ill post a ss when im done :)
[06:28] <britishseapower> why do i get a lot of messages saying blabla depends on xxxx but it is not installable ?
[06:28] <frogzoo> cowmilk: don't sweat it - it's not an issue
[06:28] <cowmilk> frogzoo: i'm just wanting to understand
[06:28] <bl3ssing_> owen_, right click on the hd permission, and ... change the options ... :)
[06:28] <bluesign> to anyone have experience with wireless,  I have a linksys modem, and I disconnected external antenna, but link quality stays same, any idea?
[06:28] <avu> zazeem: you're welcome, even if you like our most horrible cultural export ever ;)
[06:28] <nexu> anyone knows why installing nvidia-settings makes apt to come with the suggestion to remove nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-dev ?
[06:28] <clusty> thanx
[06:28] <Milky> stefg, don't thikn that's the problem. I partitioned it with the ubuntu-cd
[06:28] <frogzoo> britishseapower: what happens when you try to install the dependency ?
[06:28] <owen_> cant do it, dont have permissions, asking through terminal :P
[06:28] <Milky> removed everything, partitioned it from scratrch
[06:28] <Milky> scratch*
[06:28] <avu> zazeem: oh, wait, he's from austria I hear. nevermind then. ;)
[06:29] <zazeem> avu: LOL
[06:29] <stefg> britishseapower: either your /etc/apt/sources.list isn't right, or you replaced it and did not sudo apt-get update
[06:29] <TyeDye>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <pepper>
[06:29] <avu> zazeem: thought he was german for a frightning second there ;)
[06:29] <britishseapower> stefg: could be that...i editted it
[06:29] <lostNlinux> any one help with an evil white screen of death recurring problem(might even be a bug)
[06:29] <avu> tyedye: whoopsydaisy!
[06:29] <TyeDye> lol
[06:29] <stefg> britishseapower: sudo apt-get update will hopefully fix that
[06:30] <Milky> stefg, anyways he a lot of bluescreens before i finally convinced him to get Ubuntu, though, so I think it's something with the hardware itself
[06:30] <lostNlinux> i put the ppc live cd in and load it up it gets to the part where i can choose yaboot (that say yaboot is corrupt) and when i chose live it goes to a white screen that says cant allocate initial device-tree chunk and tells me im in open firmware
[06:31] <britishseapower> stefg: didnt fix it :-(
[06:31] <frogzoo> britishseapower: what happens when you try to install the dependency ?
[06:31] <Milky> he had*
[06:31] <britishseapower> pal: Depends: libreadline4 (>= 4.3-1) but it is not installable
[06:31] <jordan_> Can anybody Help Me Set up wired IInternet Thru My Modem?
[06:31] <britishseapower> pal: Depends: libreadline4 (>= 4.3-1) but it is not installable
[06:31] <stefg> Milky: have a hardware check.... do a badblocks on the harddrive and let the Ram-check run overnight
[06:31] <lostNlinux> also live video=ofonly does the same white screen
[06:31] <britishseapower> oops...scsue repear
[06:31] <britishseapower> frogzoo: scsue me/...i will try
[06:31] <Milky> that's probably a good idea, stefg
[06:31] <jordan_> ...
[06:31] <lostNlinux> can any one help me in here ????
[06:31] <britishseapower> E: Package libreadline4 has no installation candidate
[06:32] <frogzoo> !helpme
[06:32] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:32] <stefg> britishseapower: let yourself serve a new sources.list by !easysource
[06:32] <stefg> !easysource
[06:32] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:32] <lostNlinux> !helpme
[06:32] <jordan_> Hello?
[06:32] <jordan_> How can i set up wired internet?
[06:32] <Milky> Anyway, thanks for the help, stefg. I'm always surprised at the quality of IRC ;-)
[06:32] <britishseapower> !easysource
[06:32] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:32] <Milky> See ya
[06:32] <lostNlinux> is any one in here a ppc ubuntu user or is that just me ??
[06:33] <britishseapower> stefg: i dont get ya ?
[06:33] <jordan_> !wtf
[06:33] <frogzoo> lostNlinux: we don't know if we can help until you say what your problem is
[06:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about wtf - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:33] <lostNlinux> i put the ppc live cd in and load it up it gets to the part where i can choose yaboot (that say yaboot is corrupt) and when i chose live it goes to a white screen that says cant allocate initial device-tree chunk and tells me im in open firmware
[06:33] <lostNlinux> also live video=ofonly does the same white screen
[06:33] <jordan_> Hello How can i set up wired Internet Throuh My Modem?
[06:33] <lostNlinux> ^^^^^^problem
[06:33] <lostNlinux> jorden is it a winmoden??
[06:33] <lhds> i have saved /var/cache/apt/archive files formated now how can i reinstall them or tell synaptic that i have them
[06:34] <stefg> britishseapower: read the link that !easysource spit out for source-o-matic. Get a new sources.list and replace your probably broken one
[06:34] <minerale> Hi, I have installed xgl based on instructions given to me here, it seems to work perfectly, but one thing strikes me: not all features seem to work, resizing moving sticking etc seem to work but I'm unable to Zoom in, or 'peel away', am I just running an old version of xgl ?
[06:34] <Howitzer> Hello all, does anyone have experience with PHP here?
[06:34] <britishseapower> !easysource
[06:34] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:34] <frogzoo> lhds: I have a sly feeling apt will pick them up if you just move them back in place
[06:34] <jordan_> lostNlinux, Its a SBG900 And its supposed to Work in linux but in the manual it said refer to your Linux or Unix Mauual
[06:35] <Howitzer> I'm trying to find out what the search query is on TorrentSearch.com so i can build it in as a keyword in firefox
[06:35] <lhds> it did not
[06:35] <Howitzer> I captured the 'search packets' using Ethereal and i have something useful now
[06:35] <Howitzer> but i don't know how to use it
[06:35] <Howitzer> searchString=dff&searchCategory=all&do_search=search
[06:36] <MoohZ86> reuh les gens
[06:36] <dan_pc> I have a problem geting the sound card to work... When I try to play a file the player says it's unable to connect to the sound server .. (me newbie)..
[06:36] <Howitzer> i want to be able to discover the real URL of the search query..
[06:37] <frogzoo> lhds: you should be able to install them just with 'sudo apt-get install *.deb'
[06:37] <tyedye> hi
[06:37] <ubuntu> hi
[06:37] <tyedye> little issue
[06:37] <jaakkos> Howitzer: well i think what you captured is the tcp-stream which begins with a HTTP GET command
[06:37] <tyedye> resolved
[06:38] <owen_> how do i change the permissions to a hardrive from terminal - i tried sudo chmod a+x /dev/db7 and it does not change it...
[06:38] <jaakkos> the url to get does not include the server part of the url
[06:38] <frogzoo> owen_: mount |grep db7
[06:38] <samuel> #ubuntu-it
[06:38] <opencoder> can somebody help me with an audio problem
[06:38] <jaakkos> in the complete url it would be appended to it
[06:38] <opencoder> i need to make my sound buffer larger
[06:39] <tyedye> im all blue and multi colord
[06:39] <g1g4nt1c> hi everybody
[06:39] <tyedye> hi
[06:39] <opencoder> and i dont know how this is set up in ubuntu. i thought it was supposed to be in ~/.asoundrc, but that file didn't exist.
[06:39] <frogzoo> owen_: you need to change the permission on the file system - not the device
[06:39] <FuriousRage> is there a howto install chroot in dapper? i only found one for some earlier version that doesnt seam to work
[06:39] <g1g4nt1c> does anybody know a program like paint in windows for using on ubuntu???
[06:39] <ubuntu> i am useind a live cd to do some partitioning , with gparted, hda2 - extended and hda5 - swap have a lock icon next to them what is the commamd lline to disable lock?
[06:40] <frogzoo> g1g4nt1c: gpaint - or gimp
[06:40] <opencoder> so i created it but it still skips all the time
[06:40] <owen_> and how do i achieve that? changing the permission of the mount point?
[06:40] <g1g4nt1c> does anybody know a program like paint in windows for using on ubuntu???
[06:40] <tyedye> did you plug it in?
[06:40] <frying_fish> g1g4nt1c: kolourpaint
[06:41] <frying_fish> gpaint is a bit basic
[06:41] <teicah> g1g4nt1c: gpaint
[06:41] <frogzoo> owen_: mount |grep db7
[06:41] <Howitzer> jaakkos, how do i go from there then?
[06:41] <frying_fish> kolourpaint is about the only kde app that I would install.
[06:41] <g1g4nt1c> thx everybody
[06:41] <owen_> alright, but frostwire still wont accept the mount point as writable
[06:41] <ubuntu> frogzoo: saw you chatting in winwhq two or three weeks ago
[06:41] <FuriousRage> is there a howto install chroot in dapper? i only found one for some earlier version that doesnt seam to work
[06:42] <frogzoo> ubuntu: wasn't me
[06:42] <frogzoo> ubuntu: oh, winehq - yes, guilty
[06:42] <frying_fish> owen_: you need to use chown, not just chmod
[06:42] <mikearthur> FuriousRage: 5 secs, I've got one
[06:42] <frying_fish> change the ownership
[06:42] <tuxmaniac> !mplayer
[06:42] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer
[06:42] <ubuntu> frogzoo: thoght so
[06:42] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[06:43] <owen_> same format? sudo chown a+x /media/music ?
[06:43] <mikearthur> FuriousRage: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575 just replace all occurences of "hoary" with "dapper"
[06:43] <opencoder> anybody
[06:43] <FuriousRage> mikearthur: been there, done that, doesnt work ;(
[06:43] <mikearthur> FuriousRage: it does work. Whats the problem?
[06:43] <ubuntu> frogzoo: just a quick one here any idea;s ? i am useing a live cd to do some partitioning , with gparted, hda2 - extended and hda5 - swap have a lock icon next to them what is the commamd lline to disable lock?
[06:44] <frying_fish> owen_: no, chown user:group -R /path
[06:44] <FuriousRage> mikearthur: first, ubuntu defaults AU locale from install, dunno how to change, then in the chroot it doesnt work because of the AU locale..
[06:44] <frying_fish> -R is for recursive
[06:44] <mikearthur> ubuntu: you need to unmount them
[06:44] <frying_fish> do the same with the chmod
[06:44] <tyedye> well i gotta run so ill see you later
[06:44] <mikearthur> FuriousRage: then just run dpkg-reconfigure locales
[06:44] <tyedye> airzer0
[06:44] <tyedye> airzer0
[06:44] <tyedye> airzer0
[06:44] <tyedye> airzer0
[06:44] <tyedye> airzer0
[06:44] <tyedye> airzer0
[06:44] <tyedye> airzer0
[06:44] <jaakkos> hmm Howitzer it's a POST packet
[06:44] <tyedye> airzer0
[06:44] <tyedye> airzer0
[06:44] <tyedye> airzer0
[06:44] <frogzoo> tyedye: twerp
[06:44] <tyedye> airzer0
[06:44] <mikearthur> tyedye: shut up
[06:44] <tyedye> airzer0
[06:45] <FuriousRage> mikearthur: thats where it stops..
[06:45] <tyedye> airzer0
[06:45] <stefg> !ops
[06:45] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[06:45] <tyedye> airzer0
[06:45] <tyedye> airzer0
[06:45] <tyedye> airzer0
[06:45] <tyedye> airzer0
[06:45] <pekay> !java
[06:45] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[06:45] <frying_fish> yeah ops probably a good idea
[06:45] <FuriousRage> mikearthur: perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
[06:45] <FuriousRage>         LANGUAGE = "en_AU:en",
[06:45] <tyedye> airzer0
[06:45] <frying_fish> !ops
[06:45] <Jack01> Algum Brazuca aee?
[06:45] <frying_fish> oh, he left.
[06:45] <Jman888> Hello?
[06:45] <snooplsm> what rate are you guys downloading from apt-get sites?
[06:45] <Jman888> !easyubuntu
[06:45] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[06:45] <snooplsm> are those slwo on weekends?
[06:45] <shawnr_> If im running amd64 with HT should I use the k8-smp kernel?
[06:45] <owen_> hmm, keeps telling me invalid user :(
[06:45] <Jack01> Algum Brazuca aee?
[06:45] <mikearthur> FuriousRage: then thats the problem, its not chroot related
[06:46] <stefg> !pt
[06:46] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[06:46] <mikearthur> shawnr_: yes
[06:46] <ubuntu> mkearthur: how to unmount them  umount /dev/hda2?
[06:46] <frogzoo> ubuntu: sounds like a permissions problem
[06:46] <mikearthur> ubuntu: yep
[06:46] <FuriousRage> mikearthur: also i had to edit source.list to use SE mirrors and not AU (au gave me like 30kb/sec)
[06:46] <frying_fish> snooplsm: depends on your connection doesn't it.
[06:46] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:46] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:46] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:46] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:46] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:46] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:46] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:46] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:46] <frogzoo> !ops
[06:46] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:46] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[06:46] <frying_fish> !ops
[06:46] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:46] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:46] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:46] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:46] <ubuntu> tyedie: get lost
[06:46] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:46] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:46] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:46] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:46] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:46] <Pretoriano> ...
[06:46] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:46] <frying_fish> why isn't it just dropping him for flooding, I thought it autokicked
[06:46] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:46] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:46] <no_gatez_fan> to do a text install, am I going to need that '"alternative install" cd, I guess the regular install cd doesnt line my video adapter and/or my moniter
[06:46] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:46] <teicah> whats taking so long to kick this kid?
[06:46] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:46] <frying_fish> tyedie: stop messing around, and just go.
[06:46] <gidim> Alright guys, Ubuntu Battle updates: I wiped C, reinstalled XP for the sole purpose of downloading the ISO and burnatonce, and now I'm burning the ISO at 2x just to be safe.
[06:46] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:47] <frogzoo> !ops
[06:47] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[06:47] <stefg>   /ignore tyedie
[06:47] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:47] <frying_fish> no_gatez_fan: yes
[06:47] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:47] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:47] <frogzoo> sigh....
[06:47] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:47] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:47] <FuriousRage> mikearthur: any suggestions on how to fix that?
[06:47] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:47] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:47] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:47] <gidim> And I swear I will check disk for errors before installing this time.
[06:47] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:47] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:47] <ChakRa> prolly a 12 year old in his moms basment first time on mirc
[06:47] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:47] <mikearthur> FuriousRage: check the forums
[06:47] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:47] <no_gatez_fan> frying_fish/  ok thanks
[06:47] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:47] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:47] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:47] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:47] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:47] <mikearthur> is there no-one who can kick him?
[06:47] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:47] <teicah> whats taking so long to kick this "nobody loves me-i need attention" kid?
[06:47] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:47] <frogzoo> mikearthur: seems not
[06:47] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:47] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:47] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:47] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:47] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:47] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:47] <puppet> tyedie: stfu
[06:47] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:47] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:48] <hussam> why are there still daily dapper cds? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dapper/daily/
[06:48] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:48] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:48] <avu> puppet: don't feed it, pleade ;)
[06:48] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:48] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:48] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:48] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:48] <frying_fish> hussam: because they include all the latest updates
[06:48] <puppet> avu: just ignored it ;P
[06:48] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:48] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:48] <frying_fish> as there are some updates.
[06:48] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:48] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:48] <avu> puppet: that's the way :)
[06:48] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:48] <frogzoo> so tyedie: before you get kicked permanently, why is "airzer0" so apparently important to you?
[06:48] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:48] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:48] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:48] <ubuntu> someone get rid of this nutcase
[06:48] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:48] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:48] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:48] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:48] <FuriousRage> ./ignore tyedie!*@* ALL
[06:48] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:48] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:48] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:48] <YoussefAssad> airzer0
[06:48] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:48] <hussam> frying_fish: Ok, that seems a good idea
[06:48] <teicah> shouldnt have to
[06:48] <frying_fish> ping him to oblivion
[06:48] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:48] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:48] <tyedie> airzer0
[06:49] <YoussefAssad> heh
[06:49] <frogzoo> thx nalioth
[06:49] <lostNlinux> i put the ppc live cd in and load it up it gets to the part where i can choose yaboot (that say yaboot is corrupt) and when i chose live it goes to a white screen that says cant allocate initial device-tree chunk and tells me im in open firmware
[06:49] <shawnr_> thanks lol
[06:49] <stefg> hussam: they incorporate all the updates since dapper came out originally, so you don't need to install and pull 300Megs of updates afterwards
[06:49] <lostNlinux> what do i do to get it to load
[06:49] <lostNlinux> ??
[06:49] <nalioth> lostNlinux: did you verify the iso image and burn a good image at 4x or less?
[06:49] <zazeem> how do i uninstall gdesklets? i was using at and one of the mis menus bars will not unstick from my mouse i cant get rid of it
[06:50] <simonvc> Hey does anyone know of a web admin type thing thats newer and better than webmin. preferably with pre-built .debs?
[06:50] <shiv> My windows partition mounts fine, but how do I get it to see on desktop?
[06:50] <owen_> alright, im having no luck making this hardrive at its mount point usable... its a ext3 filesystem 50gb - tried chown and chmod and grep, is there anything else im suppost to do?
[06:50] <shawnr_> mikea, i can't find a specific data sheet on my cpu and not 100% sure i have HT. But I think I do. Its a Mobile Amd64 3700+
[06:50] <zazeem> the menu bar is stuck to the mouse cursor its annoying i cant click off of it
[06:50] <frying_fish> shiv: change the ownership of it most likely
[06:50] <pekay> hey, i got a problem installing the runtime for java, got errors if someone wants to help
[06:50] <stefg> shiv: have you mounted it under /media?
[06:50] <shiv> ya
[06:50] <frying_fish> although, all of mine show.
[06:50] <gregg__> shawnr_: HT as in hyperthreading?
[06:50] <frogzoo> owen_: mount |grep db7         paste the output back here
[06:51] <ubuntu> WO THATS BETTER
[06:51] <shawnr_> gregg, hypertransport
[06:51] <stefg> hmmm... strange... maybe in gconf-editor the 'show volumes on desktop' is not set ?
[06:51] <zazeem> can someone help
[06:51] <owen_> /dev/hdb7 on /media/music type ext3 (rw)
[06:51] <shawnr_> same thing i assume
[06:51] <gregg__> shawnr_: every AMD64 has hyperthreading
[06:51] <zazeem> i cant get rid of this gdesklet thing its stuck to my mouswe cursor
[06:51] <frogzoo> owen_: ls -ld /media/music
[06:51] <gregg__> shawnr_: nope, completely different things
[06:51] <shawnr_> gregg, should i try the k8-smp kernel then?
[06:51] <gregg__> shawnr_: arg... hypertransport
[06:51] <shiv> stefg: It is under media
[06:52] <gregg__> shawnr_: to make it clear, every AMD64 has hypertransport
[06:52] <owen_> drwx--xr-x 3 owen root 4096 2006-08-05 03:04 /media/music
[06:52] <nexu> anyone knows why installing nvidia-settings makes apt to come with the suggestion to remove nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-dev ?
[06:52] <frogzoo> owen_: 'sudo chgrp owen /media/music'
[06:52] <gregg__> hyperthreading is an intel-only tech to use the CPU more efficiently by emulating two CPUs
[06:52] <nexu> (sfbr)
[06:52] <shawnr_> gregg, from what I read smp was for multiple proc, and the system view HT as 2 cpus, and need the smp kernel to take full advantage
[06:53] <stefg> shiv: start gconf-editor and check in /apps/nautilus/desktop the item volumes_visible is checked
[06:53] <zazeem> ??
[06:53] <owen_> alright, now what?
[06:53] <gregg__> shawnr_: yes, but your CPUs doesn't have hyperthreading
[06:53] <nexu> zazeem: or arent you the proner zazeem ?
[06:53] <gregg__> CPU
[06:53] <frogzoo> owen_: should work
[06:53] <ubuntu> mikearthur umount: /dev/hda2 is not mounted (according to mtab)
[06:53] <ubuntu> same for hda5 but they do have a lock symbol
[06:54] <zazeem> yes i am, who r u in et
[06:54] <zazeem> ?
[06:54] <nexu> zazeem: i'm with hmb
[06:54] <zazeem> ah
[06:54] <shiv> stefg: yes it is
[06:54] <shiv> :(
[06:54] <shawnr_> gregg, hm im confused, you say i SHOULD use smp kernel but i don't have hyperthreading i have hyper transport
[06:54] <witless> i have a suggestion for the otherwise excellent software updater: instead of using several pop-up dialogs during the process, keep all status output on the main window.
[06:54] <witless> those popups steal focus and get in the way while you're doing something else during an update.
[06:54] <nexu> zazeem: with the old lithium
[06:54] <frogzoo> owen_: yes, no ?
[06:54] <zazeem> cool
[06:54] <owen_> "FrostWire was unable to use the specified folder for saving files. Please try a different folder.
[06:55] <stefg> shiv: BTW you have it mounted at a subdir like /media/windrive, not at /media itself, have you?
[06:55] <ubuntu> imikearthur: i think its something like swapoff or swap-off?
[06:55] <gregg__> shawnr_: you don't need to use it
[06:55] <nexu> zazeem: wazup ?
[06:55] <frogzoo> owen_: which specified folder?
[06:55] <Ovidio> hi boys
[06:55] <lula> lol
[06:55] <gregg__> shawnr_: no benefits... or do you have a dualcore (turion x2)?
[06:55] <zazeem> nm u
[06:55] <owen_>  the /media/music
[06:55] <bubbles> hi
[06:55] <nexu> zazeem: coding
[06:55] <ubuntu> i am useind a live cd to do some partitioning , with gparted, hda2 - extended and hda5 - swap have a lock icon next to them what is the commamd lline to disable lock?  is it swap-off and extended-off?
[06:55] <nexu> zazeem: helping people
[06:55] <shawnr_> gregg, i have Amd64 3700+
[06:55] <ayeee> Hi, anyone know how to setup xgl easily?
[06:55] <shiv> stefg: its here /media/windows
[06:56] <bubbles> http://rafb.net/paste/results/GhpGpy18.html <-- that's what i got from a perl script....
[06:56] <Ovidio> i've a serious problem
[06:56] <zazeem> brb
[06:56] <Ovidio> with my videocard nvidia
[06:56] <stefg> shiv: then it /should/ show up...
[06:56] <gregg__> shawnr_: ...and that's single core. No need for an SMP kernel.
[06:57] <shiv> ok I think I did not shut down the windows properll
[06:57] <gregg__> shawnr_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyper-threading vs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperTransport
[06:57] <frogzoo> owen_: ls -l /media/music
[06:57] <frogzoo> owen_: ls -ld /media/music
[06:57] <stefg> shiv: how does your /etc/fsatb line for that drive look like. Does it say 'users' in the options?
[06:57] <owen_> drwx--xr-x 3 owen owen 4096 2006-08-05 03:04 /media/music
[06:57] <shiv> stefg: That is fine
[06:58] <frogzoo> owen_: touch /media/music/a ; ls -l /media/music/a
[06:58] <guem> Ovidio: what problem?
[06:58] <Ovidio> the problem is that i can't reconfigure my xorg.conf
[06:58] <lula> man
[06:58] <shawnr_> ok, i just thought hyper-transport was just amd's name for hyperthreading
[06:58] <owen_> -rw-r--r-- 1 owen owen 0 2006-08-05 09:58 /media/music/a
[06:59] <lula> configuring irssi themes can be annoyign
[06:59] <shawnr_> gregg, k. i just thought hyper-transport was just amd's name for hyperthreading.  thanks for the info
[06:59] <frogzoo> owen_: so clearly you can write to the /media/music - so you need to recheck your frostwire directory settings
[06:59] <Ovidio> guem is since yesterday
[06:59] <Ovidio> that i'm working for it
[06:59] <owen_> are you familiar with frostwire?
[06:59] <Ovidio> my desktop is not alligned to monitor
[07:00] <shawnr_> how do i know if i can stop the lvm & evms services? do really need them?
[07:00] <Ovidio> in other distributions, you can use xorgconfig
[07:00] <Mora> Hello.. Can anyone please tell me how to make dhclient and company /never/ to touch /etc/resolv.conf? It's annoying like hell.
[07:00] <Ovidio> with usefull arrows to allign the image
[07:00] <ubuntu> i am useind a live cd to do some partitioning , with gparted, hda2 - extended and hda5 - swap have a lock icon next to them what is the commamd lline to disable lock? i think its swap-off and extened-off?
[07:00] <Ovidio> i know that i may use the original nvidia driver
[07:01] <Ovidio> but every time that i test it
[07:01] <Ovidio> o that i wrote something in xorg.conf
[07:01] <Ovidio> gdm can't restart...
[07:01] <Seveas> !search dhcp
[07:01] <ubotu> Found nothing
[07:01] <Seveas> ubotu, useless bot...
[07:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about useless bot... - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:01] <shawnr_> ;p
[07:01] <guem> Ovidio: did you check /var/log/X11/xorg.log?
[07:01] <Ovidio> have you some idea?
[07:01] <gregg__> shawnr_: after all, hyperthreading was just an attempt to make up for some of the pentium4 deficiencies, but it failed
[07:02] <Ovidio> every time the log said
[07:02] <Seveas> Mora, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StaticDnsWithDhcp
[07:02] <prakash> hi
[07:02] <Ovidio> that the server can't launch glx
[07:02] <prakash> hello
[07:02] <Ovidio> or some stupid things
[07:02] <Seveas> hi prakash
[07:02] <prakash> hi seveas
[07:02] <Ovidio> i'v also installed two version of gcc
[07:02] <digibre4k> halloo....
[07:03] <shawnr_> greg, thanks alot. can you help mewith one more question? how do i know if i can stop the lvm & evms services? do really need them?
[07:03] <digibre4k> join in #Jakarta yu???
[07:03] <Ovidio> testing to compiling nvidia drivers in both ways
[07:03] <owen_> alright, what i did was not complicate myself, and just mounted at the default directory, and see if it saves in the drive
[07:03] <guem> what video card?
[07:03] <Ovidio> btu without no results
[07:03] <Albertop> hello
[07:03] <Seveas> hi Albertop
[07:04] <gregg__> shawnr_: don't know
[07:04] <Ovidio> GeForce PCX 5750
[07:04] <shawnr_> k
[07:04] <Ovidio> i believe that's not supported
[07:04] <prakash> i want to run lustre on ubuntu. how do i start. please guide me
[07:04] <Ovidio> but is no possible
[07:04] <ubuntu> i am useind a live cd to do some partitioning , with gparted, hda2 - extended and hda5 - swap have a lock icon next to them what is the commamd lline to disable lock? i think its swap-off and extension-off?
[07:04] <h3h_timo> !centrino
[07:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about centrino - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:04] <h3h_timo> !speedstep
[07:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about speedstep - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:04] <Ovidio> that i can't reconfigure mt x server!
[07:04] <Seveas> ubuntu, swapoff and umount
[07:04] <h3h_timo> does anyone know how to use the speedstep feature for centrino processors???
[07:05] <Albertop> I'm new to ubuntu, and trying to configure my wifi card (ralink rt2570), but I continuously get a system freezed. I want to remove the rt2500 module, but modprobe -r doesn't work. Any solution?
[07:05] <shawnr_> does anyone know a terminal command to see if i'm actually using lvm
[07:05] <Seveas> h3h_timo, that should not need user intervention
[07:05] <frogzoo> h3h_timo: -> google
[07:05] <Mora> Seveas, thank you.
[07:05] <Ovidio> i also resigned to no have 3d/xgl
[07:05] <nalioth> !tell lostNlinux about verify
[07:05] <Ovidio> but i want to allign a damned desktop
[07:05] <guem> Ovidio: maybe a problem with pci-express ?
[07:05] <Ovidio> why pc-express?
[07:05] <ayeee> Hi, i want to use "xgl" but im using " Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GM", is it possible?
[07:05] <Ovidio> nosklo, i don't believe it
[07:06] <Ovidio> because i'v used with the same card
[07:06] <Ovidio> suse
[07:06] <shawnr_> does anyone know a terminal command to see if i'm actually using lvm
[07:06] <Ovidio> and suse, with his own driver
[07:06] <ayeee> anyone?:(
[07:06] <Ovidio> can allign the margins
[07:06] <Ovidio> finally
[07:07] <Ovidio> what's the debian command
[07:07] <Ovidio> equivalent to xorgcf?
[07:07] <Seveas> Ovidio, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:07] <Seveas> !x > Ovidio
[07:07] <Ovidio> no
[07:07] <Seveas> Ovidio, yes 
[07:07] <Ovidio> it is only command line
[07:07] <Seveas> so?
[07:07] <Ovidio> the program that i said
[07:07] <Seveas> ubuntu has no graphical X configuration utility yet
[07:07] <Stickittotheman> can someone help me burn the disc?
[07:07] <Ovidio> pk
[07:08] <Ovidio> ok
[07:08] <Ovidio> in fact
[07:08] <Stickittotheman> i burned it and i get the "cannot find dos!" error
[07:08] <Ovidio> the other program
[07:08] <Ovidio> is graphical
[07:08] <Albertop> hi Seveas :)
[07:08] <Ovidio> but is function in slackware!
[07:08] <NickGarvey> Stickittotheman: you need to burn the ISO as an ISO
[07:08] <Ovidio> ok
[07:08] <Seveas> Ovidio, ubuntu isn't slackware or suse
[07:08] <Seveas> also:
[07:08] <Seveas> !enter
[07:08] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[07:08] <shawnr_> does anyone know a terminal command to see if i'm actually using lvm
[07:09] <synic> !repeat
[07:09] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:09] <Stickittotheman> i did, ISO type one, noemulaor
[07:09] <Ovidio> ok
[07:09] <hussam> gaim on dapper keeps freezing, is that a known issue?
[07:09] <Ovidio> thanks
[07:09] <synic> !patience > shawnr_
[07:09] <wheels3572> !bum > wheels3572
[07:09] <Seveas> shawnr_, sudo lvmdiskscan
[07:09] <Albertop> is there a way to remove the ralink rt2500 linux driver, so I can use my card with ndiswrapper?
[07:09] <zazeem> how do i make it so a folder of mine can be edited by me without using sudo? sudo chmod ?
[07:10] <shawnr_> Sev, thank you! is there one for evms ?
[07:10] <Seveas> Albertop, echo 'blacklist rt2500' |sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/no_ralink
[07:10] <zazeem> what goes after? i want to remove admin so i can just change it without sudo
[07:10] <shawnr_> Sevea, thank you! is there one for evms ?
[07:10] <frogzoo> !permissions > zazeem
[07:10] <shawnr_> oops
[07:10] <NickGarvey> hussam: I haven't had that problem as long as I wasn't doing things that used a lot of CPU and RAM
[07:10] <shawnr_> sry
[07:10] <Albertop> Seveas, thanks!
[07:10] <fry_> Hey
[07:10] <Seveas> shawnr_, dunno
[07:10] <fry_> How can I make my regular Ubuntu account have ROOT access
[07:10] <fry_> because this crappy permissions thing is really pissing me off
[07:10] <Seveas> !root > fry_
[07:10] <frogzoo> fry_: please don't do that
[07:11] <zazeem> frogzoo: what? i says not found
[07:11] <Renan_s2> !root > Renan_s2
[07:11] <zazeem> it*
[07:11] <snooplsm> !root >= snooplsm
[07:11] <NickGarvey> Renan_s2: in the future, please "/msg ubotu root" instead
[07:11] <Rookie-> sudo su -
[07:11] <bubbles> ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/plf/ubuntu/plf/dists/dapper/free/binary-i386/Packages.gz <-- "Failed to open file"
[07:11] <NickGarvey> snooplsm: you too ;)
[07:11] <Tonren> My god... is anyone else getting awfully tired of the Ubuntu-bashing that goes on in places like Digg?
[07:11] <frogzoo> !permissions
[07:11] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html - file permissions are explained at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[07:11] <snooplsm> yea
[07:11] <jon_> i cant seem to get realplayer to install
[07:12] <Seveas> jon_, applications  add applications
[07:12] <synic> Tonren: you have a url?
[07:12] <Seveas> look in that program
[07:12] <snooplsm> jon, does mplayer do that for ya?
[07:12] <Stickittotheman> does anyone know what im doing wrong?
[07:12] <fry_> nope not working
[07:12] <CrazyDoode> Stickittotheman: yes
[07:12] <fry_> did the !root > fry got nothing
[07:12] <jon_> i downloaded the package off multiverse, but it wants me to get the archive off realplayers site
[07:12] <Stickittotheman> well im stumped so please enlighten me
[07:12] <Tonren> synic: Just do a Digg search for any article with "Ubuntu" in the title.  Literally 75% of the comments will be people bitching about how, "Oh, Ubuntu is a noob distro", "Ubuntu users are all 16-year-olds", etc.
[07:12] <Tonren> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Super_Fast_Internet_for_Ubuntu
[07:12] <hussam> I also noticed that dapper ships a cvs build of gaim 1.5.1, could this be the cause of the issue?
[07:12] <hussam> NickGarvey, it mostly hangs during signing in.
[07:12] <Mora> Seveas, what code is for that right arrow?
[07:12] <idel> Stickittotheman: burn it as iso
[07:12] <Seveas> fry_, !root > fry in here made ubotu send you a message...
[07:12] <hussam> NickGarvey, sometimes even during im chats.
[07:13] <Stickittotheman> i did
[07:13] <Peavey> hi all
[07:13] <Stickittotheman> ISO type one, noemulator
[07:13] <snooplsm> notepad++ anyone?
[07:13] <fry_> oh great idiot bots lovely
[07:13] <fry_> I'm not saying Ubuntu's a noob distro its a nanny distro
[07:13] <CrazyDoode> Stickittotheman: use K3b it rocks.
[07:13] <fry_> its permission system sucks
[07:13] <idel> Stickittotheman: what did you use for burn it?
[07:13] <synic> fry_: permissions are good... get over it.
[07:13] <Peavey> Could anyone suggest a nice bittorrent client for linux please? I dislike "Bittorrent" from ubuntu.
[07:13] <Seveas> fry_, please keep the swearing to yourself
[07:14] <nuaimat> hello guys
[07:14] <NickGarvey> Stickittotheman: you are running windows?
[07:14] <synic> fry_: it's not windows.
[07:14] <Seveas> Peavey, azureus
[07:14] <Stickittotheman> yes
[07:14] <idel> Peavey: I use azureus and opera builtin bittorrent
[07:14] <Stickittotheman> im running windows corp edittion
[07:14] <NickGarvey> Stickittotheman: take the cd out and put it back in, tell me if you get a splash screen
[07:14] <idel> Stickittotheman: nero?
[07:14] <fry_> gee its not windows s ynic
[07:14] <fry_> thanks for letting me know
[07:14] <fry_> is your next update the sky is blue?
[07:14] <Seveas> !guidelines > fry_
[07:15] <Stickittotheman> well i put it back in adn fotomat tried to import it..
[07:15] <fry_> So does anyone have a useful comment on how i can set my regular user account to have the same options as root
[07:15] <idel> :O are you trying to run the ubuntu cd in windows?
[07:15] <zazeem> frogzoo: that makes no sense at all
[07:15] <NickGarvey> Stickittotheman: I don't understand
[07:15] <Peavey> Seveas, idel: I noticed that azureus shall be a very good client but dont I need the java enviroments for it?
[07:15] <synic> fry_: permissions are part of any *nix system.  They aren't ubuntu specific.
[07:15] <Stickittotheman> me neither
[07:15] <wheels3572> How can I add a program to bum?
[07:15] <synic> fry_: no one is going to want to help you with that....
[07:15] <NickGarvey> idel: no I am having him check that the iso burned right, under windows a splash screen should come up
[07:15] <Stickittotheman> i used cdburner pro xp
[07:15] <Stickittotheman> or whatever its called
[07:15] <Seveas> Peavey, yes, but if you install azureus via applications -> add applications that'll all be installed for you
[07:15] <jon_> soda on the keyboard!
[07:15] <nuaimat> i need help , i have a good PC P4(2.4GHz/512MB RAM) which have ubuntu installed , is there any way or application that may help let me 'remote connect' to this PC through the other old P1(200MHz) ??? PS: i didn't install any OS to the P1 PC yet ... any suggestion is welcome ??
[07:15] <NickGarvey> Stickittotheman: thats what I use also
[07:15] <fry_> and why will no one help me setup my regular account to have the same permissions as root synic
[07:16] <idel> Peavey: yep, you need jre, but if you have opera9 installed...
[07:16] <zazeem> please tell me the cmd to make me be able to read write and execute my folder: /home/zazeem/files/UT2004
[07:16] <synic> fry_: because it's stupid.
[07:16] <jonc101> i need some assistance here, check this thread -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1342492#post1342492
[07:16] <fry_> hey synic
[07:16] <fry_> your a dumb nigger
[07:16] <fry_> go get hung
[07:16] <facugaich> too late Seveas hehe
[07:16] <Seveas> well well, loser night tonight
[07:16] <nuaimat> i need help , i have a good PC P4(2.4GHz/512MB RAM) which have ubuntu installed , is there any way or application that may help let me 'remote connect' to this PC through the other old P1(200MHz) ??? PS: i didn't install any OS to the P1 PC yet ... any suggestion is welcome ??
[07:16] <Peavey> Seveas, im going to try as you said.
[07:16] <Stickittotheman> NickGarvey: what settings did you use?
[07:16] <Seveas> !repeat > nuaimat
[07:16] <NickGarvey> Stickittotheman: defaults
[07:16] <NickGarvey> !vnc > nuaimat
[07:16] <Rookie-> fry_ ; to have root priviliges as user is readlly dangerous, ubuntu offers sudo to help you and if that is not good enough for you then you can use sudo su- or you can just set a password for root
[07:16] <Albertop> Seveas, it's not working. If I plug the card, the module is still loaded.
[07:17] <jon_> can someone help me install realplayer? i have the package but i still have to get the bin from the realplayer site
[07:17] <zazeem> please tell me the cmd to make me be able to read write and execute my folder: /home/zazeem/files/UT2004, only root can currently
[07:17] <NickGarvey> Rookie-: hehe, fry is long gone
[07:17] <Seveas> Albertop, did you unload the module?
[07:17] <Rookie-> hehe
[07:17] <nuaimat> vnc is only remote shell , not remote gui ?? am i wrong ?
[07:17] <idel> nuaimat: you mean a thin client?
[07:17] <Stickittotheman> well i set it to bootable disc...
[07:17] <Albertop> Seveas, I did a reboot
[07:17] <Seveas> nuaimat, vnc is remote gui
[07:17] <nuaimat> idel , i don't know what is meant by thing client
[07:17] <minerale> I was running a heavy application (vmware player) and my computer was very laggy, I quit vmware and it's still choppy... what is going on ?
[07:17] <NickGarvey> jon_: I don't think you need a binary, try reading the wiki howto (/msg ubotu realplayer)
[07:18] <jonc101> anyone know why i would be getting library errors when installing vmware-server on 6.06?
[07:18] <nuaimat> Seveas: really ?? how can i setup vnc ???
[07:18] <NickGarvey> nuaimat: /msg ubotu vnc
[07:18] <zazeem> can someone help?
[07:18] <idel> nuaimat: you want to use the old pc with the ubuntu installed in the fast one?
[07:18] <nuaimat> idel  , yeah
[07:18] <nuaimat> idel , is it possible ?
[07:18] <NickGarvey> zazeem: sudo chown -R `whoami`: /home/`whoami`
[07:18] <Seveas> nuaimat, ubuntu will be too heavy for the old one
[07:18] <NickGarvey> someone check that though
[07:18] <idel> try a small distribution like puppylinux
[07:18] <Seveas> xubuntu may work better
[07:18] <jonc101> has anyone installed vmware and had any problems with libraries?
[07:19] <nuaimat> idel , i have DSL
[07:19] <nuaimat> on a CD
[07:19] <nuaimat> it's a live cd
[07:19] <zazeem> thnx
[07:19] <Stickittotheman> this is frustrating me to the point where i think i might just have to use an auto installer
[07:19] <NickGarvey> Stickittotheman: wait wait, did you do what I said?
[07:19] <NickGarvey> Stickittotheman: open the cd in a folder and tell me what you see
[07:19] <erik_mck> is there any paid for musicdownload software available for ubuntu?
[07:19] <jonc101> no ones used vmware on ubuntu...greeeeeat
[07:19] <idel> nuaimat: you must read about vnc client
[07:20] <NickGarvey> jonc101: everything worked out of the box for me..
[07:20] <Stickittotheman> when i open it in windows explorer i see one file called XUBUNTU_
[07:20] <nuaimat> idel ,ok gimme one minute
[07:20] <nuaimat> brb
[07:20] <NickGarvey> Stickittotheman: just one?
[07:20] <synic> jonc101: I don't like vmware
[07:20] <NickGarvey> Stickittotheman: I mean open the CD, like D: or whatever
[07:20] <jonc101> NickGarvey what kind of installation did u do?  i did a server install without AMP.
[07:20] <zazeem> is there anway to create a launcher using root? i have to run ut2004 as root
[07:20] <synic> jonc101: I use windows via rdesktop.
[07:20] <Stickittotheman> yes thats what im doing
[07:20] <Stickittotheman> its a winrar archive
[07:21] <Stickittotheman> that when i right click it it says it's an ISO9660
[07:21] <wheels3572> Can someone help me with setting up gProftpd to boot with the system?  Also  Can I use bum to add gproftpd?
[07:21] <NickGarvey> Stickittotheman: yes, you didn't burn it right
[07:21] <Albertop> Seveas, but what's strange is that a modprobe -r rt2500 seems to have no effects
[07:21] <jonc101> NickGarvey?
[07:21] <Stickittotheman> ohh was i supposed to unrar it first?
[07:21] <idel> xDDD
[07:21] <hchaudh1_> hey, anyone else seeing anti-aliasing problems when you move windows, esp wobbly windows, after the cgwd updates in the past couple of days
[07:21] <jmac__> I just resized a windows NTFS volume, and Windows reads just fine. I also took that space and increased the ubuntu volume. The Ubuntu volume shows the increased drive size but still only shows the amount of free space I had before. Any ideas?
[07:21] <jon_> why cant i choose where i save files to?
[07:21] <NickGarvey> jonc101: um, I just used the file off the site
[07:21] <TheGateKeeper> zazeem: gksudo <gui app> ??
[07:21] <jonc101> *sigh*
[07:21] <zazeem> thnx
[07:21] <NickGarvey> jonc101: the vmware server beta 2
[07:21] <CrazyDoode> Stickittotheman: where did you get it from?
[07:21] <Alex`on> anyone help me sort out sftp (part of openssh2) so that each user is only able to view their home directoy?
[07:21] <Stickittotheman> xubuntu.org
[07:21] <NickGarvey> Stickittotheman: nononono!
[07:21] <jonc101> everyone take a look at this please -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1342492#post1342492
[07:21] <NickGarvey> Stickittotheman: don't unrar it
[07:22] <Stickittotheman> i didnt
[07:22] <Stickittotheman> now what did i do wrong?
[07:22] <NickGarvey> Stickittotheman: open cd burner xp pro
[07:22] <synic> wheels3572: how is gproftpd different from proftpd ?
[07:22] <NickGarvey> Stickittotheman: pick the top of the 3 options
[07:22] <CrazyDoode> as a .rar file?
[07:22] <NickGarvey> Stickittotheman: go to file> write .iso image
[07:22] <owen_> whats the name for the flash package?
[07:22] <shawnr_> every guide i see says hdparm i ON by default but mine isn't. should i have it running on my laptop?
[07:22] <TheGateKeeper> zazeem: or if I have it wrong the gnome equivallent of kdesu <app name>
[07:22] <wheels3572> synic, just that gproftpd is gui (hence the g I assume :))
[07:23] <bluesign> what dbm should my iwconfig show when I am just next to my wireless modem?
[07:23] <zazeem> thnx
[07:23] <bluesign> what dbm should my iwconfig show when I am just next to my wireless modem?
[07:23] <bluesign> what dbm should my iwconfig show when I am just next to my wireless modem?
[07:23] <NickGarvey> Stickittotheman: find the file and then burn it under that menu
[07:23] <bluesign> sorry
[07:23] <NickGarvey> !repeat
[07:23] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:23] <Alex`on> anyone help me with SSH ??
[07:23] <synic> wheels3572: how would you have the gui run at startup?
[07:23] <Stickittotheman> ohhhhhh ok thanks
[07:23] <Stickittotheman> ill try it now
[07:23] <owen_> !flash
[07:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:23] <jonc101> !vmware
[07:23] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[07:23] <synic> wheels3572: if you want proftpd to run at startup, apt-get install rcconf
[07:23] <synic> wheels3572: then type rcconf
[07:24] <Alex`on> anyone at all? to help me with SSH and directories?
[07:24] <NickGarvey> Alex`on: be more specific please
[07:24] <Stickittotheman> i got to go, but ill try it and come back here tomorrow if it doesn't work
[07:24] <Stickittotheman> thank you
[07:24] <NickGarvey> Stickittotheman: alright :)
[07:24] <Alex`on> ok
[07:24] <jon_> how do i run a file through the terminal?
[07:25] <NickGarvey> jon_: in general, type the name of the program in lower case (firefox for firefox, gaim for gaim and so on)
[07:25] <Alex`on> I have multiple users and when they login via either SSH or sFTP I want them only to be able to view their home directory that I set using usermod -d
[07:25] <jon_> do  i type sudo ./  or just  ./
[07:25] <NickGarvey> Alex`on: ah, thats called a chroot
[07:25] <owen_> how can you see what games are in the repositories?
[07:25] <NickGarvey> jon_: oh, what file is this?
[07:25] <Alex`on> so how do I set up the chroot ?
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> alex-weej,  heard otherw  want to do that. and normally they realize its a pain. You could set their shell to the restricted bash shell.
[07:26] <alex-weej> ANGRY ANGRY ANGRY
[07:26] <jaakkos> jon_: definitely without sudo if you don't need to be root
[07:26] <jon_> the realplayer bin that i made executable
[07:26] <Albertop> no way...it's still loading the module, and blocking ndiswrapper to use the card :(
[07:26] <Seveas> lol alex-weej 
[07:26] <synic> Alex`on: a chroot isn't trivial... but if you want people to only use sftp and not ssh, check out the scponly shell
[07:26] <ayyo> wth
[07:26] <jon_> what is root?
[07:26] <jonc101> lol
[07:26] <jonc101> noob >>
[07:26] <NickGarvey> !root > jon_
[07:26] <jaakkos> super user of the system
[07:26] <minerale> I was running a heavy application (vmware player) and my computer was very laggy, I quit vmware and it's still choppy... what is going on ?
[07:26] <Alex`on> ok, so how can I make a scponly shell?
[07:26] <NickGarvey> !noob > jonc101
[07:27] <wheels3572> synic, what's the startup priority supposed to be set at?
[07:27] <mc__> Alex`on, you could also set there shell to /bin/false (not sure if sftp will still work than)
[07:27] <synic> Alex`on: apt-get install scponly, and use that as the -s param
[07:27] <jonc101> well looks like everyone is interested in ripping off jonc101 but can't help out with a simple vmware problem.  i see.
[07:27] <Alex`on> how do u 'set' their shell ?
[07:27] <synic> wheels3572: whatever you want... usually after networking is started :)
[07:27] <ayyo> I wish my terminal would remember its size of when i last resized it
[07:27] <wheels3572> synic, see I am new to Linux so I dont know what #'s I should put lol
[07:27] <synic> ayyo: pass the --geometry param in your shortcut
[07:28] <Evil_Ed`> hi
[07:28] <idel> are there extra iso dvds for ubuntu? I mean, the repositories
[07:28] <Seveas> idel, yes
[07:28] <NickGarvey> Alex`on: for the user, "sudo usermod -s /bin/false username" where username is the user
[07:28] <wheels3572> synic, Same thing as apache?
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> Alex`on,  you may want to read a few basic linux admin tutorials.. shell is set with thec   hsh - change login shell   command
[07:28] <idel> Seveas: where?
[07:28] <synic> wheels3572: sure
[07:28] <Alex`on> ok
[07:28] <jonc101> see
[07:28] <jonc101> no help here
[07:28] <hchaudh1_> hey, anyone else seeing anti-aliasing problems when you move windows, esp wobbly windows, after the cgwd updates in the past couple of days
[07:28] <jonc101> just ignored
[07:28] <helio> ayyo: hey
[07:28] <mc__> Alex`on, chsh username
[07:28] <FuriousRage> wounder if 'sudo apt-get install language-pack-*' will solve my locale problem
[07:28] <jonc101> !vmware > everyone
[07:28] <Seveas> idel, wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[07:28] <idel> thanks
[07:28] <helio> 
[07:28] <Alex`on> thanks
[07:28] <NickGarvey> !patience > jonc101
[07:29] <shawnr_> How can i edit the grub to display all info and no splash screen?
[07:29] <jmac__> Wha't's wrong with your VMWare install?
[07:29] <helio> ayyo: =)
[07:29] <jmac__> I am running VMWare server without issue
[07:29] <wheels3572> brb
[07:29] <frogzoo> shawnr_: remove the 'quiet' from the kopt line & 'sudo update-grub'
[07:29] <h3h_timo> i know i asked before.. and ive been googling for a while, but i was wondering if anyone has had any experience with speedstep or any software for centrino duo processors???
[07:29] <erik_mck> is there any paid for musicdownload software available for ubuntu? couldnt find anything on google or the wiki :(
[07:29] <Seveas> !anyone > h3h_timo
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> erik_mck,  you mean LEGAL or P2P ? :P
[07:29] <jon_> it says ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:30] <jon_> how can i fix this?
[07:30] <NickGarvey> erik_mck: hmm I feel like there was something
[07:30] <shawnr_> frogzoo, thanks, what about "splash"
[07:30] <Jack_Sparrow> shawnr_: read the wiki on installing nvidia and it tells how to delete the splash screen..
[07:30] <jmac__> h3h I just installed the 686 kernel and everything works
[07:30] <frogzoo> shawnr_: that can go too
[07:30] <erik_mck> <Dr_Willis legal ! :)
[07:30] <h3h_timo> jmac__, do you know how to use the speedstep technology tho?? i really wanna know how to scale the frequency...???
[07:30] <shawnr_> frogzoo, thanks
[07:30] <lsl23> Hi everyone, What package is needed to have cups open port 515 to take INCOMMING connections for locally hosted printers
[07:30] <Warbo> erik_mck: http://irate.sf.net/
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> erik_mck,  theres some legal music stores that dont require fancy programs ( Unline that silly itunes)
[07:31] <NickGarvey> erik_mck: walmart.com!
[07:31] <jonc101> NickGarvey its all well said like it is but i've been seeking assistance since last night about this matter. well over an 18hour period has passed, i dont know about you but 'patience' isn't waiting 18hours for help....and getting none....oh...not even a tip or pointer or some advice...see my problem.  it can get **frustrating**
[07:31] <Alex`on> but I need to login via SSH because there is a .sh script that I need to run from each of the users, if I logged in as another user and ran the .sh script would the process start under their user?
[07:31] <NickGarvey> jonc101: if no one knows the answer, no one will help
[07:31] <erik_mck> <Dr_Willis + Warbo cheers , im thinking they want linux users to pirate :) will check out the link and look for web based
[07:31] <NickGarvey> jonc101: I don't totally understand the problem, so I can't help
[07:32] <synic> erik_mck: dunno how legal these sites are... http://allofmp3.com and http://mp3search.ru
[07:32] <jon_> what does ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory mean?
[07:32] <jonc101> NickGarvey: heres the problem, i pasted it previously twice -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1342492#post1342492
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> Several bands are now selling mp3's direct from their own sites as well.
[07:32] <Warbo> jon_: You need linstdc++5
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> I perfer to buy the cd's  - less hassle.
[07:32] <Warbo> *lib
[07:32] <jon_> what is that and how do i get it?
[07:32] <jonc101> hmmm
[07:32] <shawnr_> frogzoo, this line?: # defoptions=quiet splash
[07:32] <Warbo> !info libstdc++5
[07:32] <ubotu> libstdc++5: The GNU Standard C++ Library v3. In repository main, is optional. Version 1:3.3.6-10 (dapper), package size 288 kB, installed size 848 kB
[07:32] <erik_mck> <Dr_Willis not wen you live in a town where the nearest music shop is 40 miles away :)
[07:32] <Warbo> jon_: sudo apt-get install libstdc++5
[07:33] <jonc101> !info vmware
[07:33] <ubotu> Package vmware does not exist in dapper
[07:33] <idel> I found ubuntu dvd :), are there another iso files for extra repositories?
[07:33] <jonc101> !info glibc
[07:33] <Warbo> !info vmware-player
[07:33] <ubotu> Package glibc does not exist in dapper
[07:33] <ubotu> vmware-player: Free virtual machine player from VMware. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.1-4 (dapper), package size 11563 kB, installed size 31248 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[07:33] <jon_> do i type that in terminal or something warbo?
[07:33] <Warbo> jon_: Exactly
[07:33] <jon_> thanks
[07:33] <ikaruga> hello all, gota quick question: I installed some packages and all of a sudden the only screen resolution I have is 640x480. How do I fix that?
[07:33] <frogzoo> shawnr_: yup
[07:33] <Warbo> !fixres > ikaruga
[07:33] <Mora> jonc101, are you running amd64 version of Ubuntu perchance?
[07:33] <NickGarvey> jonc101: theres a package for it
[07:34] <jonc101> Mora: no, x86 on an amd sempron 2500
[07:34] <NickGarvey> jonc101: try searching in apt-cache or synaptic and I'm sure you will find it
[07:34] <ikaruga> !fixres
[07:34] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:34] <shawnr_> frogzoo, i did that an ran the update-grub, but when i went back in all the lines will had quiet splash
[07:34] <NickGarvey> jonc101: I don't know it off the top of my head
[07:34] <jonc101> thanks NickGarvey ill check those places
[07:34] <Jack_Sparrow> jonc101:  there is a package libx...
[07:34] <frogzoo> shawnr_: also altoptions for the alternate lines
[07:34] <jon_> awesome
[07:35] <jonc101> Jack_Sparrow: do u know what the full filename is?
[07:35] <jon_> thanks again now im actually getting somewhere
[07:35] <Jack_Sparrow> jonc101: just use synaptic and search for libx
[07:35] <shawnr_> frogzoo, oh.. thats what i originally remove... is there another spot?
[07:35] <idel> I am looking for something like this http://www.thelinuxstore.ca/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1113 (complete ubuntu repositories in dvd)
[07:35] <jonc101> doesnt look like i have synaptic installed.  this is a server installation.
[07:36] <frogzoo> shawnr_: defoptions is for the default kernel, altoptions for the others
[07:36] <adri> hi everybody! i've a problem to use non standard package in java. so i've a directory which contain some packages (whose i need), can you tell me what have i to do to use it? Where do I have to put the directory containing the packages? And so on... thank you for your help
[07:36] <Alex`on> I just tried "usermod -s /home/user user" and now I can't login to that user
[07:36] <jonc101> jon@deathstar:~/vmware-server-distrib$ synaptic
[07:36] <jonc101> -bash: synaptic: command not found
[07:36] <burt101> Does ubuntu provide updated kernel binaries?
[07:36] <jon_> do i have to put home before user when i install something in the bin folder?
[07:36] <Warbo> jonc101: sudo aptitude
[07:37] <jonc101> Jack_Sparrow: how do i use synaptic?  i dont have it installed.
[07:37] <Jack_Sparrow> jonc101:
[07:37] <goonies> =\
[07:37] <Jack_Sparrow> This module can be found as the module 'lib/X11' at
[07:37] <Jack_Sparrow> :pserver:anoncvs@cvs.freedesktop.org:/cvs/xorg
[07:37] <Jack_Sparrow> sorry guys.
[07:37] <jonc101> ah....thanks Warbo
[07:37] <Jack_Sparrow> That should have been one line
[07:37] <bubbles> how can i activate cgi for apach2 in dapper?
[07:37] <Warbo> jonc101: While you're in there press / and look for synaptic, then + to mark it and g to get it
[07:38] <minerale> where do the ubuntu release names come from?
[07:38] <minerale> ie, what does dapper drake mean
[07:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Warbo: thanks..  and oh, Im back for a bit
[07:38] <Warbo> minerale: Mark Shuttleworth mainly
[07:38] <jonc101> Warbo: i only see a xserver-xorg-input-synaptics , and not just a synaptic
[07:38] <Jack_Sparrow> minerale: JUst the code name of the current release
[07:39] <BobSongs> minerale: Beyond being animals, I'm not quite sure.
[07:39] <Warbo> jonc101: press n to go to the next one
[07:39] <shawnr_> frogzoo, sorry don't mean to be a pain but... if i leave the line like this "# defoptions=" and update, it resets to this "# defoptions=quiet splash", but if I leave it like this: "# defoptions=splash" it works but I still have the splash...
[07:39] <Warbo> minerale: Dapper Drake=Well dressed duck
[07:39] <adri> hi everybody! i've a problem to use non standard package in java. so i've a directory which contain some packages (whose i need), can you tell me what have i to do to use it? Where do I have to put the directory containing the packages? And so on... thank you for your help
[07:39] <shawnr_> frogzoo, do i have to comment out the line?
[07:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati > jack_sparrow
[07:40] <jon_> garrrr
[07:40] <facugaich> why doesn't firefox 1.5.0.1 automatically upgrades itself?
[07:40] <frogzoo> shawnr_: dunno, try it & see
[07:40] <Kr4t05> I'm having some sound problems with Kubuntu 6.06. It worked fine up until last night, when my audio suddenly stopped working. I'm not entirely sure what might have caused this. Any help?
[07:40] <facugaich> I've been told it should
[07:40] <jon_> Copying RealPlayer files...Error creating directory /home/jon/bin/RealPlayer (No such file or directory), exiting...
[07:40] <jon_> Cleaning up installation files...
[07:40] <pascon> hi all :)
[07:40] <Seveas> facugaich, because ubuntu provides updated packages via the Ubuntu update mechanism
[07:40] <shawnr_> frogzoo, lol im afraid id screw up the grub... ;)
[07:40] <ikaruga> thanks all,
[07:40] <jon_> im stuck again
[07:40] <Alexi5> hello
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> facugaich,  i dont see how it can to be honest.. a user running firefox shouldent be able to replace the system wide firefox.
[07:40] <Alexi5> ubuntu #1
[07:41] <Warbo> facugaich: Because that would screw up the package management, and also would need to be done by every user, or else give Firefox root priviledges (yeah, give root to a web browser, what a good idea)
[07:41] <Warbo> jon_: Why not get it from Applications>Add/Remove?
[07:41] <shawnr_> frogzoo, nope still reset to "# defoptions=quiet splash" even if i comment it out.
[07:41] <shawnr_> hm
[07:41] <shawnr_> oh well
[07:41] <oxez> How would I give my user permissions to change permissions on a FAT32 filesystem? I managed to give myself rw access, so I can move my data to that new hard drive, but I can't set permissions..
[07:41] <facugaich> Seveas: DR_Willis: Warbo: I know, I was trying to say that I'm stuck with 1.5.0.1 and haven't received any upgrades yet :P is that one the latest ver for linux?
[07:42] <mc__> oxez, it is impossible
[07:42] <jonc101> Warbo: me or jon_ ?
[07:42] <Seveas> facugaich, then you disabled security repos
[07:42] <mc__> oxez, fat32 does not support permissions
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> oxez,  you got to mount the partition with umask 0222 normally for that.
[07:42] <Warbo> facugaich: Linux always has latest version, but Ubuntu package management takes care of it
[07:42] <BeBraw> how can i find the folder of some program via cli?
[07:42] <facugaich> Seveas: let me check...
[07:42] <Jack_Sparrow> shawnr_:  Find your video driver in the device section of xorg.conf and add:         Option          "NoLogo" just after the name of your card
[07:42] <mc__> Dr_Willis, sure?
[07:42] <oxez> mc__, oh. I'm trying to checkout my SVN on that filesystem, that's why I guess =/
[07:42] <Warbo> jonc101: jon_
[07:42] <jon_> warbo: \that only gives me the package
[07:42] <Kr4t05> I'm having some sound problems with Kubuntu 6.06. It worked fine up until last night, when my audio suddenly stopped working. I'm not entirely sure what might have caused this. Any help?
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> oxez,  and you DONT set the permissions on the folders/files indivitually - you set them on the drive at mount time. and thats how they stay
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> mc__,  thats how vfat mounting works. :P
[07:42] <FuriousRage> hmm takes some time to install 800MB of language pakcs
[07:42] <nightattack> can anyone tell me how can I add space to my linux partition? i removed 2 GB from my ntfs partition but i don't seem to find a way to add it to my linux partition...
[07:43] <oxez> Dr_Willis, I'll try umask=0222.. I currently have umask=000
[07:43] <jon_> i think i got it though, help told me to put it in the bin folder but that didnt work, i just defaulted it
[07:43] <Warbo> jon_: Really? It puts it in the Applications>Graphics menu for me
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> nightattack,  is the new block of space right next to the existing linux partitions
[07:43] <mc__> Dr_Willis, but i thougt fat32 does not support permissions
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> oxez,  000 is a little unsafe.
[07:43] <BobSongs> minerale: I think part of the choice of animal name is to suit the general feel of the distribution. Breezy seems to have been more of a breeze to work with. Dapper appears to be Breezy with lots of fixes but a greater effort toward making it look 'dapper' or pretty.
[07:43] <frogzoo> oxez: 027 is usually best
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> mc__,  mount  sets the permissions that are 'seen' the permissions are NOT set on the fles.. it just appears that way
[07:43] <oxez> Dr_Willis, I can no longer create fils with 0222
[07:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !diskmounter > mc__:
[07:44] <nightattack> It's above the linux partition, it's listed as unallocated space
[07:44] <Seveas> oxez, you want 0022 0r 022, not 0222
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> oxez,  check your fstab/mount command then.
[07:44] <facugaich> Seveas: Security Universe  repos?
[07:44] <Seveas> facugaich, and security main, restricted, multiverse
[07:44] <Kr4t05> BobSongs: Do we want to know how Hoary got named? :P
[07:44] <jon_> realplayer does not allow redistribution, therefore you have to fetch the archive from their site
[07:44] <Seveas> facugaich, pastebin your sources.list
[07:44] <ikaruga> hi all just wanted to know if anyone has any experience running qdvdauthor.  I've tried running it both in breezy and dapper, and the slideshow feature never works
[07:44] <jon_> according to the add application
[07:44] <BobSongs> Kr4t05: lol. Now, now. Keep it clean. ;)
[07:45] <twotwenty> im using kernel 2.6.16.14, how do i upgrade from it to the latest (2.6.17.7) ?
[07:45] <facugaich> Seveas: it's ok, I know what you mean
[07:45] <oxez> /dev/hdb1 on /media/stuff type vfat (rw,umask=022) => I can't write to it tho
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=howto:mount    - has a good discussion of thos. :P applys mostly to vfat as well.
[07:45] <facugaich> Seveas: I guess that's why I'm not getting any upgrades
[07:45] <Seveas> 
[07:45] <Warbo> jon_: That is what it does. The package doesn't actually contain realplayer, it contains a script which downloads realplayer from the site, extracts it, installs it then puts it in the menus
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#can_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume         has good info as well.
[07:45] <jonc101> Warbo: i selected synaptic to install and its now installing about a billion other applications, is this normal.....and second question, whats the difference between synaptic and aptitude?
[07:45] <jon_> oh
[07:45] <jon_> hm
[07:46] <BobSongs> Seveas: How did you get this 'icon' ? 
[07:46] <Warbo> jonc101: Aptitude is command line, synaptic is GUI
[07:46] <jon_> i tried that and it didnt work, so i was just following the help menu
[07:46] <Warbo> jon_: OK
[07:46] <BobSongs> ")
[07:46] <Warbo> jon_: I find that it runs with sudo ./filename.bin then tell it to go in /usr/lib/realplayer
[07:46] <jonc101> Warbo will synaptic work like an ncurses interface?  because aptitude looks like that to me, its all ncurses
[07:47] <Warbo> jonc101: aptitude is ncurses, synaptic is gtk2
[07:47] <jon_> thanks
[07:47] <jon_> i think i got it
[07:47] <Kr4t05> I'm having some sound problems with Kubuntu 6.06. It worked fine up until last night, when my audio suddenly stopped working. I'm not entirely sure what might have caused this. Any help?
[07:47] <jonc101> Warbo errr.. i dont have X....this is the server install, so no X components
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> Warbo,  you answered the question in a way that dident answer much and gave him 2 more questions!  :) well done!!
[07:47] <nightattack> the space i took away from my ntfs partition is now right below(so above the linux partition), is there a way to get it into my linux partition, it's listed as unallocated space
[07:47] <Warbo> jonc101: No wonder it is getting loads of stuff..... oops :)
[07:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Kr4t05: You also have Windows correct? does it still work there?
[07:47] <ubuntu> hi
[07:48] <superhond> hi
[07:48] <jonc101> Warbo should i cancel?
[07:48] <ubuntu> deutsch ?
[07:48] <Warbo> jonc101: I would
[07:48] <Kr4t05> Jack_Sparrow: Sound works fine in Windows.
[07:48] <Warbo> jonc101: q will stop it downloading
[07:48] <danf_1979> does anyone run bastille-linux here?
[07:48] <jon_> SWEET
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> nightattack,  you could fdisk/format the new space and mount it somewhere. or ya could  boot a live cd. and use gparted to resize the existing partitions and take over the unalloated space.
[07:48] <superhond> jeah dude
[07:48] <Seveas> !de
[07:48] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:48] <jon_> is there a good music client for linux, something like soulseek?
[07:48] <Seveas> !audio
[07:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about audio - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:48] <Warbo> jonc101: : will keep a package at it's current version (so uninstalled stuff stays uninstalled) and - removes it
[07:48] <ubuntu> can someone tell me about skype for ubuntu linux ?
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> !skype
[07:48] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[07:49] <ubuntu> skype ?
[07:49] <ubuntu> how to install it ?
[07:49] <Jack_Sparrow> voip
[07:49] <Warbo> jon_: MLDonkey can use souldseek I think
[07:49] <Seveas> ubuntu, read what ubotu just wrote
[07:49] <jonc101> Warbo: thanks...ill just use aptitude from the cli, what was it i needed to search for to get those libraries installed?  i think u mentioned something earlier
[07:49] <jon_> can you help me figure out how to play mp3s on here
[07:49] <A[D] minS> !sources.list
[07:49] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> !mp3
[07:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:49] <Seveas> !mp3 > jon_
[07:49] <Jack_Sparrow> jonc101:  there is a package libx...
[07:50] <Inazad> Someone can help me ?
[07:50] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask
[07:50] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:50] <Seveas> !someone > Inazad
[07:50] <nightattack> Dr_Willis: how do I use the fdisk command?
[07:50] <romulo> can anyone point me out any solution for configuring a 6 channel system with alsa? my center speak isnt working -_-
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> nightattack,  run sudo fdisk, :P ya proberly want to use gparted, and read a few disk partitioning howtos/tutorials first.
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> !gparted
[07:50] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> !disks
[07:51] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[07:51] <jonc101> Jack_Sparrow looks like there's a few libx apps, libxft2-dev, libxml10, libxm10, libxmlrpc-ruby1.8, libxslt-dev.....which one do i need to install?
[07:51] <Warbo> !man > nightattack
[07:51] <Servo888> Anybody use pdfimages? Here's my line: "pdfimages -j -f 1 -l 1 mypdf.pdf output.jpg" This should create an image called output.jpg from the first page of the document... Well it doesn't.
[07:51] <Inazad> I have to wait above 5 minutes to see my loading panel of gnome... What's the problem with my laptop ?
[07:52] <Jack_Sparrow> jonc101: Look at your error paste again.. start there libx11 if I remember
[07:52] <jonc101> k
[07:52] <Jack_Sparrow> I gotta run, wife needs me to be with her...  Hope everyones problems are little ones...
[07:53] <oxez> Dr_Willis, I can change permissions, but only as root.
[07:53] <Servo888> anybody? This should not be that freaking hard to solve... God damn the ass who wrote the fucking man page...
[07:53] <Alex`on> how can I create a chroot jail ?
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> oxez,  its proberly fakeing it :)   if you want all users to be able to access that vfat, use the users and user options and umask=022  (I think)
[07:54] <oxez> Dr_Willis, I don't really want to "use" permissions. It's only SVN trying to sets file in read-only
[07:54] <scree> some german people here?
[07:54] <Seveas> !de
[07:54] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:54] <Kr4t05> I'm having some sound problems with Kubuntu 6.06. It worked fine up until last night, when my audio suddenly stopped working. I'm not entirely sure what might have caused this. Any help?
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> oxez,  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#can_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume   for examples.  (for ntfs, but vfat works also)
[07:54] <oxez> Dr_Willis, files in .svn directory
[07:54] <StyXman> hi. is there any utility to select mirrors based on transfer speed?
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> oxez,  Hmm..   keeping that stuff on a vfat may not be a good idea.
[07:54] <Seveas> StyXman, no
[07:54] <oxez> Dr_Willis, why's that?
[07:54] <jon_> am i correct that i cannot get mp3 codec packages from synaptic?
[07:55] <oxez> Dr_Willis, I plan to share /dev/hdb1/www between my windows and linux systems
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> oxez,  for the exact problems you are having for one. :P
[07:55] <Seveas> jon_, no you're not
[07:55] <Jack_Sparrow> oxez: /dev/sda4 /media/sda4 vfat rw,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[07:55] <Servo888> that was fast.
[07:55] <StyXman> I see. any other mirror chooser?
[07:55] <jon_> okay
[07:55] <Seveas> !mp3 > jon_ please read the message from ubotu
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> oxez,  you can set windows to read/write to ext3/2 drives. :)
[07:55] <jon_> alright
[07:55] <Alex`on> how can I set up a chroot jail ?
[07:55] <jon_> im there
[07:55] <Seveas> !repeat > Alex`on
[07:55] <oxez> Dr_Willis, I tried it, didn't work with TortoiseSVN
[07:55] <__mikem> Hello seveas
[07:55] <Seveas> @lart __mikem
[07:55] <jepler> I'm using breezy.  When I log in at the console I have 'max locked memory     (kbytes, -l) unlimited', but when I ssh in I have a limit of 32 kilobytes.  I don't see this setting in /etc/security/limits.conf.  Does anyone know where it is specified?
[07:55] <Seveas> damn, doesn't work in here...
[07:56] <Alex`on> how can I set up a chroot jail ?
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> heh.
[07:56] <StyXman> ufff
[07:56] <__mikem> Seveas, your bot is broke
[07:56] <Seveas> __mikem, no it's not
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> nice when ya give him an answer.. then he vanashiss for a bit.. then comes back asking the same question.
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> Ive yet to see a 'good  & simple' way to chroot users to their home dirs.  Not seen much of a need for it either.
[07:58] <gnomefreak> ty
[07:58] <gnomefreak> i remember why he was banned now
[07:58] <Seveas> 
[07:58] <tehuti> help! I can't set up my 4-port ethernet router
[07:58] <Rookie-> hehe
[07:58] <Seveas> gnomefreak, the bantracker can help you remember
[07:59] <Seveas> tehuti, that has not so much to do with ubuntu...
[07:59] <gnomefreak> i know i forgot to add it that day
[07:59] <tehuti> it's a d-link di-604 and I can't get to the setup screen through firefox
[07:59] <tehuti> oh yeah, what's it have to do with?
[07:59] <tehuti> in windows I can just run the disk
[07:59] <oxez> Dr_Willis, I got it: I added uid=1000
[08:00] <stefg> #ubuntu-classroom will have it's premiere shortly
[08:00] <no_gatez_fan> I have a pci express (ati X800)...what is the best way for me to get it working properly?
[08:00] <Warbo> vesa
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> oxez,  ok - thats  just setting the dir to be owned by the user 1000, if you used the 'user' option . it would do the same. :P IF that user mounted the dir.
[08:00] <Seveas> stefg, what's the subject?
[08:00] <Warbo> no_gatez_fan: Actually I don't know. Probably fglrx
[08:00] <StyXman> stefg: a premier about?
[08:00] <plhardy> tehuti: do you mean that you are expecting to run a setup cd for your dlink under unbuntu ?
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> no_gatez_fan,  i followed the !ati docs.. for my x200m
[08:00] <oxez> Dr_Willis, alright. Now I'll just have to test if it works for windows
[08:01] <tehuti> obviously not plhardy
[08:01] <stefg> I think IRC behaviour and manners :-)
[08:01] <StyXman> heh
[08:01] <no_gatez_fan> ati doc's...get tthem from the ati site?
[08:01] <Gumby> does kubuntu use the same packages as ubuntu does and it just kde instead of gnome or is it a whole separate entity?
[08:02] <Warbo> Gumby: The first one
[08:02] <StyXman> Gumby: yes to the first part
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> Gumby,  identical stuff
[08:02] <Warbo> !ati > no_gatez_fan
[08:02] <no_gatez_fan> !ati
[08:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:02] <ayeee> Hi, ive got a widescreen tft monitor but it dont work. My other non-widescreen works just fine. What can be the problem? Anyone PLEASE help me.
[08:02] <StyXman> basically is the same packages; you only select ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop, etc
[08:02] <dkr0> Is Ubuntu a completely free GNU system?
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> !ubuntu
[08:02] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[08:02] <Warbo> It is a completely Free GNU/Linux system
[08:03] <Seveas> Warbo, no
[08:03] <jon_> do you like GNU or KDE better?
[08:03] <Warbo> Well, restricted modules can be uninstalled
[08:03] <dkr0> Seveas, doesn't it have non-free drivers or something?
[08:03] <StyXman> dkr0: it has some closed-source soft, if that's what you asking for...
[08:03] <Seveas> dkr0, correct
[08:03] <Warbo> jon_: KDE will not work without GNU
[08:03] <jon_> oh
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> but those are not in the standard repos.
[08:03] <dkr0> Seveas, So why does Ubuntu advertise as completely FLOSS.
[08:03] <StyXman> jon_: did you mean gnoem or kde?
[08:03] <jon_> yea!
[08:03] <Seveas> dkr0, it doesn't
[08:03] <StyXman> gnome*
[08:04] <jon_> thats what i meant
[08:04] <dkr0> Seveas, "Ubuntu is comprised of completely free and open source software."
[08:04] <wheels3572> how can I do a scan to see what 192.168.1.101 is using?
[08:04] <__mikem> #ubuntu-classroom
[08:04] <__mikem> oops forgot the /join
[08:04] <Seveas> dkr0, where do you see that?
[08:04] <dkr0> Seveas, It is similar wording on the shipit CDs.
[08:05] <Dr_Willis> dkr0,    the non-free repositories can be added.. but they are not enabled by default.
[08:05] <ayeee> Hi, ive got a widescreen tft monitor but it dont work. My other non-widescreen works just fine. What can be the problem? Anyone PLEASE help me.
[08:05] <Seveas> dkr0, no it's not 
[08:05] <Warbo> restricted is, multiverse isn't
[08:05] <dkr0> Seveas, its on the back.  restricted still is non-free.
[08:05] <StyXman> jon_: that's a personal choice. I can give you mine (kde) , but you migh end hating it :) so the best thing to do is to try each one for a month or so and choose one
[08:05] <Seveas> dkr0, it does not say 'only free software'
[08:05] <Guardian> hello
[08:05] <bluefoxicy> bah
[08:05] <NickGarvey> lemme go grab a cd and check :)
[08:05] <dkr0> Seveas, "free and open source"
[08:05] <Guardian> what does "install in OEM" mean ??? on the alternate install cd ???
[08:06] <Dr_Willis> Guardian,  you can set up a 'default' customied install.
[08:06] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  do me a favor, while my machine is crippled; make a mental note to look into enabling DontZap by default, and any reason not to
[08:06] <jonc101> i dunno, i just installed a whole stack of libx libraries but im still getting the error as set out in this thread ----->>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1342492#post1342492
[08:06] <StyXman> wheels3572: locally or remotely?
[08:06] <Seveas> dkr0, it says NOWHERE that it's only free software
[08:06] <Warbo> Back of CD says "consisting of free and open source software", "released for free public use under several licenses"
[08:06] <wheels3572> StyXman, Locally.  My network is going from 192.168.1.100 (desktop) to 192.168.1.102 (my laptop)
[08:07] <dkr0> Warbo, there we go.
[08:07] <Warbo> dkr0: Yes, so you are wrong
[08:07] <dkr0> Seveas, see?
[08:07] <Seveas> Warbo, sure, but not "ONLY free software"
[08:07] <Seveas> and that's deliberate
[08:07] <Warbo> Seveas: That's why I said it
[08:07] <bluefoxicy> this is not working >:|  I must attempt a reboot.
[08:07] <dkr0> Seveas, it never states that it consists of anything less than.
[08:07] <Seveas> dkr0, see?
[08:07] <NickGarvey> ja
[08:07] <dkr0> It should.
[08:07] <Warbo> dkr0 said "completely" I said "consisting"
[08:07] <Seveas> dkr0, quit being a baby and just accept that you're wrong...
[08:07] <jonc101> how can i upgrade libc5 to glibc?
[08:07] <dkr0> Seveas, I'm not being a baby.  I just wanted to know.
[08:07] <Dr_Willis> consisting of free  software AND consisting of open source software.
[08:07] <Albertop> Seveas, sorry...didn't know the rule
[08:08] <Seveas> jonc101, ubuntu doesn't ship libc5...
[08:08] <Guardian> Dr_Willis: hmm ok
[08:08] <dkr0> Seveas, Sorry if the free software purist philosophy is too much for you.
[08:08] <StyXman> wheels3572: ah, you want to know which machine is using .101?
[08:08] <wheels3572> StyXman, Yessssss :)
[08:08] <Dr_Willis> Guardian,  i got no idea how to use it either. :P
[08:08] <gidim> Okay, I burned the ISO at 2x, 0 checksum fail, installed on hda... and I am officially Windows-free!
[08:08] <gidim> Thanks all. ^_^
[08:08] <Seveas> sigh, why do babies always leave after insulting...
[08:08] <plhardy> tehuti: what is the ip address of management of your dlink ? does it answers to ping ?
[08:08] <NickGarvey> gidim: :)
[08:08] <Guardian> :)
[08:08] <jonc101> Seveas: according to the vmware install script, i need to upgrade to glibc.  check this thread for the exact error im getting -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1342492#post1342492
[08:08] <tehuti> plhardy, never mind, I got it to work
[08:08] <Dr_Willis> Seveas,  guess he showed You!
[08:09] <tehuti> I'm doing phone tech support for my mom
[08:09] <jepler> jonc101: these are actually the problem lines:
[08:09] <jepler>         libX11.so.6 => not found
[08:09] <jepler> jonc101: the advice is incorrect
[08:09] <Warbo> jonc101: Whatever you do, don't uninstall libc6. That is why I reinstalled :)
[08:09] <jepler> jonc101: you need to install the libraries that are "not found" in that listing
[08:09] <jonc101> wtf
[08:09] <StyXman> wheels3572: you can try to read the leases file the dhcp server has written. or you can get the mac addr for the oputput of the "arp -a" command
[08:09] <jonc101> he leaves?
[08:09] <jon_> sweet igot realplayer to work and mp3s to play
[08:09] <jon_> i thought this would take all day
[08:09] <wheels3572> StyXman, huhhh lol.  I am a newbie here gonna need help lol
[08:10] <__mikem> Wow, thats three +b's in the last 10 minutes
[08:10] <Seveas> __mikem, want one too? :
[08:10] <twotwenty> hey, how do i clear my dns cache, etc
[08:10] <twotwenty> ?
[08:10] <jon_> can i change the look of my interface?
[08:10] <jon_> i want cool skins
[08:10] <__mikem> no thanks, Ill pass
[08:10] <__mikem> lol
[08:10] <Seveas> !themes > jon_
[08:10] <twotwenty> any idea?
[08:11] <wheels3572> !themes > wheels3572
[08:11] <i_b0t> does anyone know how to install rhythmbox with mp3 support??
[08:11] <Peavey> Seveas, I installed azureus and java via apt, works fine. Next question would be...how to deinstall that damn java and azureus crap? :) System is slow while using azuerus, azureus itself is slow..just bad! :(
[08:11] <Warbo> i_b0t: Install gstreamer0.10 plugins
[08:11] <Dr_Willis> Peavey,  leave java, sudo apt-get remove azureus
[08:11] <Peavey> thank you :)
[08:12] <mc__> Peavey, you should read some beginner's tutorial
[08:12] <p3980> Hello all... have a question for you
[08:12] <mc__> !ask > p3980
[08:12] <p3980> Mind taking a shot at it?
[08:12] <mc__> !ask > p3980
[08:12] <p3980> Apparentally not
[08:12] <StyXman> twotwenty: maybe stop/starting the dns service?
[08:12] <twotwenty> StyXman: how
[08:12] <ayeee> here (in what config file) can i change the "login screen theme"?
[08:13] <p3980> OK, simply enough, whenever I'm on one of the virtual terminals (accessed by Alt+F[somenumberhere] , the top inch or so of the screen ends up on the bottom
[08:13] <StyXman> twotwenty: sudo /etc/init.d/bind9 stop; sudo /etc/init.d/bind9 start
[08:13] <StyXman> twotwenty: only if you're using bind9
[08:13] <Seveas> p3980, freaky
[08:13] <p3980> Yes
[08:13] <Seveas> which video card?
[08:13] <p3980> Nvidia, unsure of exact model number as the computer isn't mine and they won't let me take it apart
[08:13] <StyXman> twotwenty: what dns server are you using?
[08:14] <Seveas> have you tried the proprietary drivers?
[08:14] <p3980> Yes, they're installed
[08:14] <p3980> IIRC, I think I may have forgot to run the config command to tell X to use those drivers
[08:14] <roryyy48_> helio
[08:14] <StyXman> p3980: try lspci | grep VGA
[08:14] <p3980> ok
[08:14] <twotwenty> StyXman: im not runnin anything, i just wanna know why everytime i connect to my friends server, it points me to: 70.168.71.254
[08:14] <Seveas> p3980, sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[08:14] <frogzoo> p3980: try passing vga=791 in the #kopt line in /boot/grub/menu.lst & 'sudo update-grub' & reboot
[08:14] <twotwenty> i heard something about foonet or somshit
[08:14] <Seveas> !language > twotwenty
[08:15] <p3980> frogzoo: I'll try it
[08:15] <plhardy> twotwenty: then the cache is on dns server you have no control on.
[08:15] <plhardy> twotwenty: on clients, dns resolving library does not use cache but resolves query each time
[08:15] <StyXman> twotwenty: ah, taht depends on the dns servers you're using. most probably a problem from your ISP
[08:15] <jon_> what is gtk?
[08:15] <twotwenty> StyXman: how can i solve it then?
[08:16] <twotwenty> !gtk > jon_
[08:16] <plhardy> twotwenty: put them in /etc/host ? in hard !
[08:16] <jon_> oh
[08:16] <StyXman> twotwenty: change the dns servers or wait them to pick up the correct mapping
[08:16] <p3980> what did you want me to pass to /boot/grub/menu.lst again?
[08:16] <frogzoo> p3980: try passing vga=791 in the #kopt line in /boot/grub/menu.lst & 'sudo update-grub' & reboot
[08:17] <p3980> thank you
[08:17] <jon_> can i change my mouse roller to go back webpages when i click it in? it was set like that on windows
[08:17] <jonc101> no. i've installed every libx* file from aptitude and im still getting that error message when i install vmware
[08:17] <jonc101> wtf can be wrong here?
[08:17] <plhardy> twotwenty: order you dns server to access the better informed first
[08:17] <frogzoo> jonc101: lsb_releaese -a
[08:17] <jonc101> whats that
[08:18] <twotwenty> plhardy: im on /etc/hosts now
[08:18] <p3980> do I need to uncomment the #kopt line?
[08:18] <i_b0t> warbo: ii  gstreamer0.10-alsa                               0.10.7-0ubuntu4              GStreamer plugin for ALSA
[08:18] <i_b0t> ii  gstreamer0.10-esd                                0.10.3-0ubuntu4              GStreamer plugin for ESD
[08:18] <i_b0t> ii  gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs                           0.10.7-0ubuntu4              GStreamer plugin for GnomeVFS
[08:18] <i_b0t> ii  gstreamer0.10-plugins-base                       0.10.7-0ubuntu4              GStreamer plugins from the "base" set
[08:18] <i_b0t> ii  gstreamer0.10-plugins-base-apps                  0.10.7-0ubuntu4              GStreamer helper programs from the "base" se
[08:18] <jonc101> ~info lsb_release -a
[08:18] <i_b0t> ii  gstreamer0.10-plugins-good                       0.10.3-0ubuntu4              GStreamer plugins from the "good" set
[08:18] <jonc101> !info lsb_release -a
[08:18] <ubotu> Package lsb_release does not exist in dapper
[08:18] <shawnr_> wow
[08:18] <jonc101> !info lsb_release
[08:18] <ubotu> Package lsb_release does not exist in dapper
[08:18] <jonc101> sorry
[08:18] <jonc101> doesnt exist
[08:18] <plhardy> twotwenty: frankly speaking it is not really a good id, remember that you did it on a hugh post-it on your sxcreen :-)
[08:18] <Seveas> p3980, no, you MUST leave it commented
[08:18] <jonc101> aptitude already tells me that lsb_release is installed
[08:19] <frogzoo> p3980: nope, leave it commented & 'sudo update-grub'
[08:19] <p3980> ok, I'll try your advice and let you know if it works
[08:19] <p3980> Rebooting
[08:19] <shawnr_> all the howtos i find say "hdparm" is ON by default, but mine isn't. should i turn it on? im using a laptop if that matters
[08:19] <plhardy> twotwenty: too add a static dns entry in /etc/host add line with the ip address first then the full dns name
[08:20] <plhardy> twotwenty: but it remains a strange idea... ( i should have shut up my face when proposing that )/.
[08:21] <twotwenty> i see
[08:21] <zero-1> hi, Im having problems with a creative camera thats suppose to be compatible with linux its the ct6840
[08:21] <Guardian> re
[08:21] <zero-1> Im not able to use it through ams
[08:22] <Guardian> when partitioning, does the place of the swap partition has an influence on performance ?
[08:22] <Seveas> Guardian, not really
[08:22] <zero-1> and when i try to  install gspy it says that something is missing in gnome-lib
[08:22] <zero-1> but i have the complete packages
[08:22] <zero-1> what can i do?
[08:22] <weex> is anyone using evolution to connect to an ldap server? I need a server to test against
[08:23] <nexu> what is the best way to calculate how long a task/process has been running using /proc data?
[08:23] <Guardian> seveas: i was wondering if putting it at the beginning of the disk or at the end would change somethinh
[08:23] <Alexi5> do developers make linux /unix their platform for their apps instead of windows
[08:23] <wulax> i can't use the AltGr key to make "at" and the dollar sign when using Compiz. anyone know why? i have a swedish keyboard.
[08:23] <budluva> hey, is it possible to mount .bin/.cue files? or is there anyway to convert bin/cue to iso?
[08:23] <Seveas> Alexi5, of course
[08:23] <shawnr_> all the howtos i find say "hdparm" is ON by default, but mine isn't. should i turn it on? im using a laptop if that matters
[08:24] <Alexi5> i am thinking of doing cross platform apps on linux
[08:24] <Seveas> budluva, bchunk does bin/cue  iso conversion
[08:24] <weex> nobody uses evolution for contact management?
[08:24] <budluva> Seveas: cool thanks
[08:24] <p3980> OK, I did as you said & rebooted
[08:24] <frogzoo> p3980: &?
[08:25] <p3980> it told me "Undefined Mode Number" when I booted, but I just pressed space and it proceeded... it seems to work like it should
[08:25] <p3980> meaning the issue is fixed
[08:25] <p3980> now how do I get rid of the "Undefined Mode Number" -- i think it is referring to the vga=791 line you just had me add
[08:26] <starscream[2] > hi
[08:26] <KenSentMe> Is there a way to see if a person has been online on irc for the last few days?
[08:26] <jon_> how do i make this theme work after i extract it?
[08:26] <Seveas> KenSentMe, !seen persons_name
[08:26] <KenSentMe> In the ubuntu channel that is
[08:26] <jon_> or where do i put it
[08:26] <KenSentMe> !seen MatthewRevell
[08:26] <starscream[2] > can anyone help me with a USB hard drive and ubuntu problem please?
[08:26] <ubotu> I last saw matthewrevell (i=synchron@silenceisdefeat.org) 1d 2h 22m 15s ago, quiting: "leaving"
[08:27] <Madpilot> KenSentMe, you can do that in PM with the bot, too
[08:27] <steveire> haha
[08:27] <KenSentMe> Madpilot: sorry, didn't know it would print in here
[08:27] <KenSentMe> Seveas: thanks
[08:27] <steveire> KenSentMe: Nice nick
[08:27] <KenSentMe> steveire: ty
[08:27] <starscream[2] > Can anyone give me a hand with a USB hard drive and ubuntu boot issue please, thanks
[08:27] <steveire> Leisuresuite Larry
[08:28] <steveire> and the Land of the Lounge Lizzards
[08:28] <steveire> That takes me back
[08:28] <p3980> How can I fix the "Undefined Mode Number" on booting from my last fix (adding vga=791 to /boot/grub/menu.ls)
[08:28] <p3980> my old problem was fixed
[08:28] <p3980> but now the new one
[08:28] <starscream[2] > anyone?
[08:28] <p3980> if I just press space it doesn't seem to break anything
[08:29] <KenSentMe> steveire: i know, but i don't think it's something for the ubuntu support channel to memorize
[08:29] <starscream[2] > anyone know how I can boot ubuntu using the windows boot.ini where ubuntu is installed on a USB hard drive?
[08:29] <repoman63> bout it bout it
[08:29] <StyXman> starscream[2] : what/how it doesn't work
[08:29] <frogzoo> p3980: nope - you should be able to find the proper mode if you go back to grub, & enter 'vbeprobe' you should find a workable mode
[08:29] <p3980> ok
[08:29] <p3980> frogzoo: I also hit "0" the second time around and it worked
[08:29] <StyXman> starscream[2] : ahmmm, I think that's too much to ask to ntloader...
[08:29] <starscream[2] > StyXman> I need to boot from ubuntu which is installed on a USB HDD, however my laptop does not allow booting from USB
[08:30] <_jeff> hey guys
[08:30] <p3980> so should i set the VGA number to 0? (I got it off the list of avail. modes)
[08:30] <crazy_penguin> good night all! sleep well!
[08:30] <adminx> Hello room
[08:30] <starscream[2] > StyXman> I read that you can add a certain boot file from ubuntu to the C: drive of the windows installation and use that but windows can't read my ubuntu hard drive LOL
[08:30] <weex> just read up on evolution in the ubuntu forums and people strongly suggest thunderbird as a replacement, leaves me wondering why evolution is included in a default ubuntu install
[08:30] <Mackie> hi everyone
[08:30] <StyXman> starscream[2] : ah, yes
[08:31] <starscream[2] > StyXman> so I wondered if the ubuntu install CD would let me boot ubuntu from the HDD, then I can add this file to my windows C: drive?
[08:31] <StyXman> starscream[2] : you can install some boot loader in the mbr of the usb disc, then copy the mbr to the win partition and use that file to boot, but I'm not sure it will work in this case
[08:31] <starscream[2] > StyXman> do you know the command from the ubuntu install cd to make it boot a ubuntu unstallation on a usb hard drive?
[08:31] <frogzoo> p3980: doesn't sound right - is that the only available?
[08:32] <StyXman> starscream[2] : be aptient. i need some time to type :)
[08:32] <p3980> 0-9 are available on the list as the numbers I could input
[08:32] <_jeff> i have a desktop pc with dapper on it, my wireless pci card worked right out of the box until i made 2 changes to the system (upgraded packages and altered fsdis to mount my windows volume). after i restarted, i could no longer connect to the internet wirelessly and my wireless card was no longer recognized as a network adapter or anything in the Device Manager. Can anybody help me fix this?
[08:32] <p3980> frogzoo: Then a hex code
[08:32] <starscream[2] > StyXman> well I feel my first job is to boot in Ubuntu, then figure out an easier way to set up a boot option ya know? PS. Sorry for not taking time:)
[08:32] <frogzoo> p3980: what are the hex codes?
[08:32] <p3980> err... i didn't write them down
[08:32] <p3980> want me to go do that
[08:32] <StyXman> starscream[2] : yes, that would be the right way
[08:33] <mc44> anyone know of a good frontend to view xmltv listings in?
[08:33] <lubomier> Hi, for various reasons i need to build own kernel, but i have problem with restricted-modules, it's there any howto which describes this procedure?
[08:33] <frogzoo> p3980: cos the vga=### option takes a hex code - you need to get the grub prompt & find a workable mode
[08:33] <p3980> ok
[08:33] <starscream[2] > StyXman> surely there is a simple command from the installation CD to get the ubuntu installation on the USB HDD to boot, do you know of it or know where I can find it? People with dodgey bootloaders must use such a command?
[08:34] <p3980> frogzoo: so use the hex of the mode i'm using now
[08:34] <frogzoo> p3980: you can probly test them out from grub with 'testvbe'
[08:34] <p3980> frogzoo: I found one that works -- use that?
[08:34] <frogzoo> p3980: that would work
[08:34] <p3980> ok
[08:34] <p3980> thanks
[08:34] <p3980> bye
[08:34] <starscream[2] > StyXman> something along the lines of booting ubuntu from disk1
[08:34] <repoman63> so
[08:34] <StyXman> starscream[2] : I think your problem is that the bios doesn't recognize usb disks as bootable thingies
[08:35] <StyXman> s/thingies/devices/
[08:35] <StyXman> starscream[2] : most probably it doesn't even detect them as storage devices
[08:35] <starscream[2] > StyXman> yeah, thats why I want an alternative method of booting. The laptop does recognise the USB device when accessed from the installation initiated from a CD ya know
[08:35] <_jeff> i have a desktop pc with dapper on it, my wireless pci card worked right out of the box until i made 2 changes to the system (upgraded packages and altered fsdis to mount my windows volume). after i restarted, i could no longer connect to the internet wirelessly and my wireless card was no longer recognized as a network adapter or anything in the Device Manager. Can anybody help me fix this?
[08:35] <Neuling> hi
[08:35] <_jeff> hi
[08:36] <starscream[2] > StyXman> for example I did manage to get ubuntu installed to the HDD on that machine
[08:36] <uzz> i'm trying to play some mp3's with rhythmbox but it won't work... some gestreamer - pakets are installed....
[08:36] <uzz> any idea??
[08:36] <Neuling> is here anybody who speaks german ?
[08:36] <uzz> ja
[08:36] <_jeff> !w32codecs
[08:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:36] <StyXman> starscream[2] : so you need to get to the kernel as soos as possible, so it can detect the usb disk and continue booting from it
[08:36] <mc__> Neuling, ja
[08:36] <mc__> Neuling, geh nach #ubuntu-de
[08:36] <_jeff> !restricted
[08:36] <uzz> thanx
[08:36] <dbe> Does anyone use rmail?
[08:36] <mc__> !de > Neuling
[08:37] <futzilogik> how do I debootstrap an edgy installation?
[08:37] <starscream[2] > StyXman> so is there no way of using the ubuntu installation CD as a boot cd like windows can if it cant boot?
[08:38] <beerockxs> The screen-darkening effect when the "password required to run this program" box pops up is pretty choppy on my machine, anyone have an idea what might cause that?
[08:38] <StyXman> starscream[2] : i don't remember.
[08:38] <beerockxs> starscream[2] : it's a live cd.
[08:38] <starscream[2] > StyXman> do you know of anywhere I can get this information please?
[08:38] <mc44> anyone know of a gui frontend I can use to view xmltv listings?
[08:38] <ikaruga> hey has scribus-cvs (version 1.3.X) been compiled for dapper yet?
[08:39] <starscream[2] > beerockxs> I have installed ubuntu to a USB HDD and my PC cant boot from it so I need somewhere I booting it. I figured the ubuntu install CD may allow this function from the console?
[08:39] <nu> How do i create a shortcut/link to a file?
[08:39] <StyXman> nu: command line or whith some filemenager?
[08:39] <nu> command line would do
[08:40] <StyXman> nu: ln -s. see ln manpage
[08:40] <nu> thank you StyXman
[08:40] <dragonfire> i'm trying to mount a windows share useing samba automatically via fstab, the article in the wiki isn't working for me
[08:40] <gixbit> Anybody have any ideas? Trying to compile from source. "Relocatable linking with relocations from format elf64-x86-64 (/usr/lib/libsicuuc.a(ubidi.ao)) to format elf32-i386 (gdi32.2T9iM9.o) is not supported"
[08:40] <starscream[2] > are there any other Ubuntu support forums to help me with my booting issue?
[08:41] <leleobhz> someone can help me to solve pthis?
[08:41] <leleobhz> dpkg: erro processando /var/cache/apt/archives/libavahi-compat-libdnssd1_0.6.10-0ubuntu3_i386.deb (--unpack): tentando sobrescrever `/usr/lib/libdns_sd.so.1', que tambm est no pacote bonjour
[08:41] <nu> !ln
[08:41] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[08:42] <dragonfire> i'm trying to mount a windows share useing samba automatically via fstab, the article in the wiki isn't working for me
[08:42] <no_gatez_fan> well that worked for the x800
[08:42] <zazeem> can someone help me, i deleted my system tray so now i try to close so the programs go to tray but they exit, how do i add the tray back to my panel???
[08:42] <StyXman> starscream[2] : what you try to acomplish needs some knowledge. you might need to read some docs before getiing it right
[08:42] <Albertop> Seveas, I almost solved. It was loading also rt2570 module :)
[08:43] <Seveas> heh
[08:43] <starscream[2] > StyXman> thanks for your help anyway :)
[08:43] <Qwell> On the netboot image, is there a way to get to a console?
[08:43] <Qwell> I'd like to run fdisk manually
[08:43] <twotwenty> how do i change folder owner with 'chown' i read the manual and still don't get it. any idea?
[08:43] <StyXman> starscream[2] : maybe old docs about creating boot diskettes might help you.
[08:43] <dragonfire> i'm trying to mount a windows share useing samba automatically via fstab, the article in the wiki isn't working for me
[08:43] <twotwenty> let's say the folder name is 'hello'
[08:43] <Qwell> twotwenty: chown user:group file
[08:44] <StyXman> starscream[2] : I don't know if ntloader would boot a diskette image
[08:44] <twotwenty> Qwell: what you mean by 'file'?
[08:44] <twotwenty> Qwell: what if its a folder?
[08:44] <Qwell> the...file...
[08:44] <Qwell> twotwenty: then sure
[08:44] <twotwenty> Qwell: huh
[08:44] <AngryElf> is it just me or is us.archive.ubuntu.com *really* slow these days
[08:44] <Hoxzer> ANd taalk
[08:44] <twotwenty> Qwell: what 'group' and 'file' should i use?
[08:45] <Qwell> twotwenty: whatever you want
[08:45] <StyXman> twotwenty: for chown and most command line progs files and dirs are "the same"
[08:45] <StyXman> twotwenty: you can ommit the group
[08:45] <twotwenty> oh i see
[08:45] <StyXman> AngryElf: archive.ubuntu.com is really slow in the last week
[08:46] <edgardo> Hola
[08:46] <nu> =)
[08:47] <repoman63> does dapper come in pink
[08:47] <visik7> no
[08:47] <visik7> is brown not pink
[08:47] <nu> only on tuesdays
[08:47] <Hoxzer>  :/ ?
[08:47] <beerockxs> The screen-darkening effect when the "password required to run this program" box pops up is pretty choppy on my machine, anyone have an idea what might cause that?
[08:47] <Hoxzer> can somebody explain me that inside pink joke
[08:48] <plhardy> starscream[2] : i think you are not the only one to face that problem, solution is not so easy to by-pass a lack from old BIOS
[08:48] <nu> beerockxs: mine flickers once towards the end of the effect
[08:48] <nu> beerockxs: is what that yours is doing?
[08:48] <beerockxs> nu: it flickers all the way through
[08:48] <AaronF> Dumb one: how do I tell which version of Ubuntu I'm using?
[08:48] <_jeff> i have a desktop pc with dapper on it, my wireless pci card worked right out of the box until i made 2 changes to the system (upgraded packages and altered fsdis to mount my windows volume). after i restarted, i could no longer connect to the internet wirelessly and my wireless card was no longer recognized as a network adapter or anything in the Device Manager. Can anybody help me fix this?
[08:49] <_jeff> beerockxs: are you using compiz?
[08:49] <nu> beerockxs: try installing your videocard driver, if you haven't done so yet
[08:49] <Madpilot> AaronF, System->About Ubuntu
[08:49] <beerockxs> _jeff: No.
[08:49] <mc44> anyone know of a gui frontend I can use to view xmltv listings?
[08:49] <beerockxs> nu: It is installed, and DRI is working.
[08:49] <_jeff> beerockxs:ok
[08:49] <plhardy> starscream[2] : solution would be to boot from a floppy that contains the right kernel already and that embed usb drivers in its initrd.img then that switch to the root of your usb disk
[08:49] <Albertop> argh, ndiswrapper says the driver and the hardware are present, but I can't see any interface in ifconfig/iwconfig :|
[08:49] <Mora> Hmm.. anyone using JFS here?
[08:49] <nu> beerockxs: then i don't know man.
[08:49] <Dabian> Which upstream version of Xgl do we use?
[08:50] <LittleCj3k> goodmorning
[08:50] <Dabian> Version: 7.0.0-0ubuntu4
[08:50] <Dabian> LittleCj3k : no, its evening.
[08:50] <_jeff> is there a package upgrade log in dapper?
[08:50] <plhardy> starscream[2] : what happens if you boot with the live cd and put a kernel option root=/dev/sda1 ?
[08:50] <AaronF> Thanks Madpilot, didn't see it there
[08:50] <edgardo> Habis visto por aqu a "22Jern"?
[08:50] <LittleCj3k> lol
[08:50] <Dabian> Which upstream version of Xgl do we use?
[08:50] <Dabian> Version: 7.0.0-0ubuntu4
[08:51] <ic56> I suspect a hardware problem with an ethernet card.  Is there an easy-to-use protocol analyzer that I can run on a 2nd computer to show what the card is putting on the wire when I send a ping from it?  apt-cache search analyzer didn't report anything relevant...
[08:51] <starscream[2] > plhardy> I have not tried that
[08:51] <oblib> I updated from Breezy to Dapper and some programs that use sound freeze the machine. Anyone know what went wrong?
[08:51] <starscream[2] > plhardy> I have Ubuntu installed to a USB HDD
[08:51] <plhardy> starscream[2] : i am not even sure you can give boot option at start...
[08:52] <AaronF> Ok, I'm on Dapper (as I thought, but wanted to make sure) and my Synaptics mousepad (after hours of tweaking) still really kind of sucks; specifically, it's slow (yes I already tweaked xorg.conf), and dragging window is a pain. Someone have a thorough HowTo on Options in Xorg.conf OR (better yet)  a HowTo on getting gsynaptics (bad name btw) running on Dapper b/c there are some dependency issues
[08:52] <starscream[2] > plhardy> did you see my whole situation from start?
[08:52] <Dabian> Xgl works not with Ubuntu.  Ubuntu is bad and doesn't work with Xgl.  I am dissing Ubuntu because of Xgl, I am a negative person right now.  Its "only" a problem for 64bit though.
[08:53] <plhardy> starscream[2] : if there is no upgrade from your bios to get usb boot work you have to boot on another device to step on your after
[08:53] <mnp> hey guys. ive got issues with installing ubuntu dapper onto a new macbook. i install fine until Grub. grub fails (which ive read is okay) and then i get a installer failure message
[08:53] <AaronF> (I'm amd64 btw)
[08:53] <starscream[2] > plhardy> basically I followed a guide to install to USB HDD and all goes well except my laptop won't allow USB to be a boot device
[08:53] <mnp> how can i check to see if the system is installed? and more importantly, how do i get LILO to install from the livecd? the tutorials ive found are NOT working
[08:53] <Dabian> AaronF : Then your days are counted!
[08:53] <AaronF> Really?
[08:53] <AaronF> How so Dabian?
[08:54] <edgardo> Hola Zacras!
[08:54] <Dabian> solumly?
[08:54] <starscream[2] > plhardy> two ways I think may work but dont know how woudl be to add ubunty to my windows boot.ini files and boot from there...or to use the console from the Ubuntu install CD to boot ubuntu
[08:54] <_jeff> is there a package upgrade log in dapper?
[08:54] <AaronF> (solemnly?)
[08:54] <Dabian> !spell solumly
[08:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about spell solumly - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:54] <AaronF> !spell solemnly
[08:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about spell solemnly - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:54] <mnp> anyone tribooting with a macbook?
[08:55] <oem78674> anyone know how to use gdebi 0.1.4ubuntu13?
[08:55] <AaronF> Dabian: You mean: "My days are [numbered] ?" Why do you say this?
[08:55] <plhardy> starscream[2] :wher did install linux swap partition ?
[08:55] <tschernobill> somebody german here?
[08:55] <dr_willis_> !de
[08:55] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:55] <Dabian> AaronF : I have lots of problems with 64bit ubuntu.
[08:55] <AaronF> yah, I was afraid of that
[08:55] <AaronF> I got Skype running in linux32 emulation
[08:55] <AaronF> that's fine by me
[08:55] <starscream[2] > plhardy> all went to the USB hard drive
[08:56] <edgardo> There Free Fonts in http://www.structor.com.ar, (Too Masonic Fonts) Bye...
[08:56] <starscream[2] > plhardy> the guide said it should all work, and I have now doubt that it will but I cant test it if my laptop bios does not allow USB booting lol
[08:56] <Dabian> AaronF : Never use skype.  Skype stinks.  Get REAL VoIP instead!  Like SIP!
[08:56] <mnp> how can i find other IRC channels?
[08:56] <starscream[2] > plhardy> its a new laptop too!
[08:56] <AaronF> Yah, everyone I know uses skype
[08:56] <AaronF> no choice
[08:56] <fyrestrtr> mnp: /list
[08:56] <Dabian> AaronF : Tell them they're idiots.
[08:56] <AaronF> It's become a biz standard
[08:56] <mnp> fyrestrtr: what about searching?
[08:56] <fyrestrtr> hrmm, Opera is kinda nice.
[08:56] <starscream[2] > plhardy> so I figure everything is in place to allow it to boot, the PC just needs to look to the USB HDD on boot
[08:57] <AaronF> Uh oh, my daughter just woke up
[08:57] <Dabian> AaronF : Tell them to use REAL VoIP instead!
[08:57] <AaronF> bbiab
[08:57] <fyrestrtr> mnp: /list [expression] 
[08:57] <oem78674> anyone know how to use gdebi 0.1.4ubuntu13?
[08:57] <LadyNikon> mnp: depends on the server you can do /list if you want to find a specific irc channel.. you can check out searchirc.org
[08:57] <oem78674> trying to install .deb wiht that program
[08:57] <Dabian> AaronF : Only idiots uses skype! :-)
[08:57] <Lukstr> hello room. Anyone able to help me out with my wireless card on Ubuntu?
[08:57] <AaronF> oh brother...
[08:57] <fyrestrtr> oem78674: just double click on the deb
[08:57] <oem78674> it goes to notepad
[08:57] <oem78674> or an equivalent
[08:57] <AaronF> Lukstr: what you got?
[08:57] <Dabian> AaronF : Maybe I overreact .. I am hungry you see :)
[08:57] <nu> Lukstr: I can try
[08:57] <AaronF> :)
[08:57] <oem78674> latest version of ubuntu
[08:57] <fyrestrtr> oem78674: sudo dpkg -i foo.deb should work
[08:57] <oem78674> gdebi 0.1.4ubuntu13 software to help me
[08:58] <Madpilot> mnp, most IRC clients also have a graphical way to list channels - on XChat it's Window->Channel List...
[08:58] <oem78674> ok, i'll try
[08:58] <oem78674> thanks
[08:58] <AaronF> Lukstr: details?
[08:58] <Dabian> rio_ : Skype happens to suck tremendiously.
[08:58] <Lukstr> AaronF and nu: It's an Intel 802.11a/b/g wireless card
[08:58] <fyrestrtr> Dabian: what's a good voip alternative?
[08:58] <AaronF> yah I know there are some big probs on linux
[08:58] <Dabian> fyrestrtr : SIP!
[08:58] <fyrestrtr> Lukstr: should work out of the box.
[08:58] <fyrestrtr> Dabian: like??
[08:58] <rio_> Dabian: useful for talking to other people on skype, and i can't complain about the sound quality
[08:59] <Dabian> !SIP
[08:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about SIP - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:59] <Warbo> AaronF: Then get on to the kernel developers
[08:59] <Lukstr> When I run my laptop in WinXP I get *good* connection speed, and can download things at respectable rates, however in Ubuntu it's unreasonably slow
[08:59] <Dabian> !VoIP
[08:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about VoIP - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:59] <oblib> how do I get a list of installed packages from the command line?
[08:59] <Dabian> !ip phone home
[08:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about ip phone home - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:59] <Lukstr> it says it's *always* got an excellent connection and webpages don't load half the time
[08:59] <nexu> dpkg -l
[08:59] <nexu> oblib: ^
[08:59] <Dabian> The bot is stupid ... brb.
[08:59] <fyrestrtr> Lukstr: are you using firefox?
[08:59] <AaronF> That's odd Lukstr, are you getting 11mbps and not 54?
[08:59] <Lukstr> Yes
[08:59] <starscream[2] > anyone think a 3gig partition is big enough for an installation of Dapper and for it to run as fast as pos?
[08:59] <Lukstr> To both
[08:59] <fyrestrtr> Lukstr: yes to firefox?
[08:59] <Dabian> hmm... sip is Session Initiation Protocol.
[08:59] <Dabian>           the way to initiate telephone calls over the internet also known as
[08:59] <Dabian>           VoIP, it signals a remote end on port 5060 and begins sending RTP
[08:59] <Dabian>           streams
[09:00] <fyrestrtr> Lukstr: disable ipv6 dns lookups in firefox.
[09:00] <mc44> i've just downloaded the source of a program I cant find an ubuntu .deb for - how do I go about compiling it?
[09:00] <oblib> nexu: any way of sorting between default packages and ones I installed on my own?
[09:00] <Lukstr> fyrestrtr: where abouts may I do that?
[09:00] <Warbo> !compile
[09:00] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:00] <AaronF> why is that fyrestrtr?
[09:00] <Lukstr> AaronF: not to mention it says it'll take 200 hours to download the software updates for Ubuntu, it's going at roughly 80b/s
[09:00] <nexu> oblib: dpkg -l | grep ^ii
[09:00] <fyrestrtr> Lukstr: because it will speed up your browsing experience, since most DNS servers don't support ipv6
[09:01] <nexu> oblib: dpkg -l shows what you have installed or was installed
[09:01] <nexu> oblib: and erm .no
[09:01] <fyrestrtr> Lukstr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4 <-- :)
[09:01] <nexu> oblib: 'default' ?
[09:01] <programcode> Hello everyone, can someone help me with a problem with XGL?
[09:01] <edgardo> Felipe C. Valcaraho
[09:01] <fyrestrtr> programcode: best to ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[09:01] <oem78674> that didn't work for installing the deb file
[09:01] <Lukstr> fyrestrtr: thanks
[09:01] <oem78674> it says errors were encountered
[09:01] <oem78674> trying to install jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586
[09:01] <mc44> Warbo: thanks!
[09:02] <fyrestrtr> oem78674: means it worked, just encountered errors.
[09:02] <oblib> nexu: I'm thinking of restarting a Dapper install from scratch, but then want to install all the packages I had installed before
[09:02] <fyrestrtr> !java > oem78674
[09:02] <oblib> nexu: my current Dapper upgrade has serious issues
[09:02] <nexu> oblib: such as?
[09:02] <oem78674> java is not working on ubuntu
[09:02] <nexu> oblib: i mean what kind of issues
[09:02] <oem78674> tried installing from RPM also
[09:02] <dr_willis_> !java
[09:02] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[09:02] <fyrestrtr> oblib: copy /var/cache/apt/archive somewhere, then copy them back -- and you won't have to download them when you update.
[09:02] <oblib> I updated from Breezy to Dapper and some programs that use sound freeze the machine.
[09:02] <fyrestrtr> oem78674: works here great.
[09:02] <dr_willis_> theres no need to mess with the java rpms
[09:02] <mnp> anyone use lilo in dapper?
[09:02] <Warbo> oem78674: If they were unmet dependency errors then run apt-get -f install after installing a deb
[09:03] <AaronF> So anyone have a link on a comprehensive Synaptic Touchpad howto (amd64)
[09:03] <nexu> oblib: which ones ?
[09:03] <oem78674> ok
[09:03] <fyrestrtr> AaronF: what's there to 'howto'?
[09:03] <oblib> nexu: for example I run fceu (which I compiled from source) and it says "couldn't get sound resource" or something and just freezes
[09:03] <AaronF> Or tutorial for gsynaptics (amd64)
[09:03] <morpheus> does anyone know how i can configure bitchx to use a socks5 proxy
[09:03] <AaronF> Well, fyrestrtr my touchpad behaves poorly
[09:03] <nexu> oblib: hmm ok well
[09:03] <nicholaspaul> Q: I'm trying to copy everything from my system drive to a blank drive, and when I use cp -rv * /media/other, it gets stuck at copying 'proc/kmsg'... just pauses for a really long time. Is there a reason for that, or a better way to duplicate the entire system?
[09:03] <AaronF> so I've tweaked the xorg.conf and made it 'usable' but it's still not 'right'
[09:03] <nexu> oblib: best thing you could do is run dpkg -l  > mypackagelist.log
[09:03] <dr_willis_> morpheus,  i think its a bitchx/enviroment setting.
[09:03] <UbuntuJulez> hey the fonts for my windows and applications seem a little huge and crowded..i've turned them down to 9 but they still seem (even the spacing) to be really big
[09:03] <fyrestrtr> nicholaspaul: use dd
[09:03] <nexu> oblib: save it somewhere save
[09:04] <nexu> oblib: reinstall
[09:04] <oblib> nexu: then diff?
[09:04] <nexu> oblib: and read back into the list
[09:04] <nicholaspaul> fyrestrtr: dd?
[09:04] <oblib> nexu: good idea
[09:04] <fyrestrtr> AaronF: there are tools in repos for that.
[09:04] <morpheus> ty dr where do i find that
[09:04] <Dabian> X-Hacker` : It doesn't work!
[09:04] <fyrestrtr> nicholaspaul: disk dump -- makes an exact image of your disk.
[09:04] <nicholaspaul> aah . thx fyrestrtr !
[09:04] <AaronF> Yah, I have dependency probs with latest gsynaptics on dapper (amd64)
[09:04] <dr_willis_> morpheus,  i would start by googling for some BitchX docs/homepage... Last i looked hopwever.. the BX docs were.. rather annoying. :)
[09:04] <Mora> nicholaspaul, you Should Not copy /proc, /sys directories!
[09:04] <rr72> why doesnt the bot have logs for the 24th of last month?
[09:05] <morpheus> thanx
[09:05] <rr72> i need them
[09:05] <Shamurai> unsure
[09:05] <fyrestrtr> AaronF: try tpconfig
[09:05] <AaronF> k
[09:05] <nicholaspaul> Mora: oh? I want to copy the system to a bigger drive and use that instead.
[09:05] <ArcAnge1> can anyone help me ive got no normal picture after installing ubuntu only a scrambeld image all lines and stuff
[09:05] <fyrestrtr> ArcAnge1: what video device?
[09:05] <_wall`> secret
[09:05] <rr72> where can i find channel logs?
[09:05] <fyrestrtr> !logs
[09:05] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[09:06] <Mora> nicholaspaul, /proc and /sys are virtual file systems that are exposing some innards of your system. you should /not/ copy their contents over to the disk.
[09:06] <UbuntuJulez> !audacious
[09:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about audacious - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:06] <rr72> fyrestrtr~ the logs i need are missing
[09:06] <rr72> 0 bytes
[09:06] <fyrestrtr> rr72: bot must have gotten unplugged for cleaning.
[09:06] <rr72> the 24th of july in kubuntu
[09:06] <nu> How do i create a shortcut or link?
[09:06] <plhardy> starscream[2] : try booting form the live cd and give: live root=/dev/sda1 and see what happens
[09:06] <nu> link a file to its original version
[09:06] <nicholaspaul> Mora: wont the duplicate be incomplete?
[09:07] <Warbo> nu: ln -s filename linkname
[09:07] <rr72> fyrestrtr~ then how do i find a cmd i was told in there that i need?
[09:07] <fyrestrtr> nu: right click, create shortcut (in nautilus) -- or ln -s original linkname
[09:07] <AaronF> fyrestrtr: does this mean I have to run this in linux32 emulation on my amd64?
[09:07] <fyrestrtr> AaronF: probably :)
[09:07] <AaronF> (tpconfig)
[09:07] <AaronF> ugh
[09:07] <Mora> nicholaspaul, you need only to mkdir /proc and /sys, they will be automagically populated in runtime.
[09:07] <nu> Thanks, both of you  =D
[09:07] <AaronF> Is there an effort to improve amd64 pkgs?
[09:07] <Albertop> anyone with a working ralink rt2570 card here?
[09:08] <nicholaspaul> Mora oh i see. so what would the correct dd command be, if i want to exclude those dir's?
[09:08] <Warbo> 32bit/64bit should become seamless in later Ubuntu verisons
[09:08] <nu> ok. i made the shortcut but doint see it on my dekstop
[09:08] <Warbo> (for x86 at least)
[09:08] <Mora> nicholaspaul, best way is to use cp -afx / /target/
[09:08] <fyrestrtr> nicholaspaul: august issue of linux user magazine has a great article on this.
[09:08] <nu> but when doing ls in the command line, it lists it
[09:08] <mc44> Warbo: when I run make it says "As root, say 'make install PREFIX=/usr' to install." - do i need to run as sudo?
[09:08] <zazeem> can someone help me, i deleted my system tray so now i try to close so the programs go to tray but they exit, how do i add the tray back to my panel???
[09:08] <Mora> nicholaspaul, you should /not/ run dd on mounted filesystem.
[09:08] <nicholaspaul> fyrestrtr: i'll check it out :) thx
[09:09] <nicholaspaul> Mora. oh. alrighty :)
[09:09] <fyrestrtr> nu: you need to ... ermm ... put it on the dessktop :)
[09:09] <Warbo> mc44: I would use sudo checkinstall
[09:09] <nicholaspaul> Mora: cp -afs it is :) thx!
[09:09] <Mora> afx
[09:09] <ArcAnge1> fyrestrtr:  gforce 6600 TI
[09:09] <Warbo> !checkinstall > mc44
[09:09] <nu> fyrestrtr:  i just noticed it put it in my home directory lol. although the orginal file is in the desktop. thanks!
[09:09] <fyrestrtr> zazeem: right click, add to panel and then add the notification area
[09:09] <Albertop> I can't get this rt2570 to work both with the linux driver and the ndiswrapper driver, but ndiswrapper works ok on SuSE with this inf file
[09:09] <Mora> nicholaspaul, afx not afs
[09:09] <nicholaspaul> Mora: right....typo!!
[09:10] <fyrestrtr> ArcAnge1: it should work, what kind of monitor do you have?
[09:10] <zazeem> thanks
[09:10] <Warbo> nu: symbolic links (-s) can be copied anywhere, but they will break if you move the original. Hardlinks (no -s) don't, but they cannot be of directories, and must be on the same device/partition as the original
[09:10] <SurfnKid> can i generate PDFs thru linux
[09:10] <nicholaspaul> Mora: and off it goes. If it works, you'll hear me yelp!!
[09:10] <Warbo> SurfnKid: OpenOffice
[09:10] <fyrestrtr> SurfnKid: sure
[09:10] <SurfnKid> mmm
[09:11] <Warbo> Abiword, Koffice, Inkscape, whatever
[09:11] <dreamthief> hey frogzoo, thanks for your hint about NIC bonding ;) you made my day *g* I got it set up right now in just about 2 minutes
[09:11] <Mora> nicholaspaul, don't forget to install grub.
[09:11] <ArcAnge1> fyrestrtr: a dell trinitron 19 inch
[09:11] <nicholaspaul> Mora:  how?
[09:11] <nu> Warbo: thanks. ill keep it in mind
[09:12] <nu> the reason is, i saw a Terminal link on a directory and deleted it....and yea...
[09:12] <SurfnKid> I had a receipt from Paypal, when i hit print, Generate PDF.. it said its not supported, maybe i need to install a package that lets it do that, but why would it show generate pdf on the print options
[09:12] <fyrestrtr> ArcAnge1: might have to adjust the refresh rates for that.
[09:12] <nu> now my shortkey (control + 1) wont work lol
[09:12] <nu> so im trying to put it back there
[09:12] <frogzoo> dreamthief: cool, 802.3ad is a beautiful thing
[09:12] <Mora> nicholaspaul, are you planning on simply moving your system to another disk or moving that disk out to another box or?
[09:12] <aujordanh> nu, still have linux installed? :)
[09:12] <nu> aujordanh: hehe yes.
[09:12] <nicholaspaul> Mora:  i'm running out of space, so i'm moving the system to a bigger drive
[09:12] <nu> 25 hours and going
[09:13] <nicholaspaul> Mora: the old one will be removed.
[09:13] <dreamthief> oh yes, it is ;)
[09:13] <nu> 27*
[09:13] <aujordanh> nu, congratulations anything cool to share so far?
[09:13] <jahshua> !easyubuntu
[09:13] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[09:13] <mc44> Warbo: well  it asked me lots of things I didnt understand, but it seems to work! so thanks very much :)
[09:13] <Warbo> nu: Windows uses shortcuts for program icons, but in Ubuntu icons on the desktop, panel and menu are ".desktop" files, which can be controlled with Alacarte Menu Editor (in Accessories)
[09:13] <nu> aujordanh: just my irssi layout =). conky is my next victim though.
[09:13] <Mora> nicholaspaul, then you need to install grub on new disk..
[09:13] <Warbo> mc44: checkinstall means you can uninstall stuff painlessly later
[09:13] <Mora> !grub
[09:13] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:13] <jahshua> conky owns.
[09:14] <mc44> Warbo: ah just with apt-get remove? if you use make you cant do this?
[09:14] <nu> yea, need to configure it though
[09:14] <nicholaspaul> Mora:  how do i do that?
[09:14] <ArcAnge1> fyrestrtr: and how do i do that? im new to ubuntu i have always used windows
[09:14] <nu> white letters on white bg dont mix
[09:14] <fyrestrtr> ArcAnge1: sorry, do what?
[09:14] <Dabian> !xgl
[09:14] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:14] <aujordanh> nu, IRSSI saved my but once
[09:14] <repoman63> http://tinyurl.com/7lddh
[09:14] <Dabian> What about 64BIT THOUGH!
[09:14] <repoman63> is this right
[09:14] <Warbo> mc44: make install just copies files around, so you'd better hope the developer has made a "make uninstall" option (also it means you have to keep the source code)
[09:14] <nu> aujordanh: how so? im using it instead of XChat.
[09:15] <nicholaspaul> aujordanh: hey, i managed to format that drive by running the install disk, incase you were wondering :) thx for your help yesterday!
[09:15] <teimu> woohoo! front page of wikipedia today!
[09:15] <aujordanh> my computer's xserver wouldn't load so i had to get help via IRSSI and Lynx
[09:15] <aujordanh> nicholaspaul, glad to hear it
[09:16] <aujordanh> Lynx is another lifesaver
[09:16] <Warbo> lynx is good. elinks doesn't handle ssl (in other words, help.ubuntu.com/community won't load)
[09:16] <mc44> Warbo: aha, cunning. cheers :)
[09:16] <Dabian> Warbo : And in third words?
[09:16] <repoman63> http://tinyurl.com/7lddh
[09:16] <fyrestrtr> !info links-ssl
[09:16] <ubotu> links-ssl: Dummy package for transition to elinks. In repository universe, is extra. Version 0.99+1.00pre12-1 (dapper), package size 5 kB, installed size 36 kB
[09:16] <Dabian> Warbo : You cannot access hyour cold-mail?
[09:17] <Warbo> Dabian: What?
[09:17] <Dabian> Whut?
[09:17] <Dabian> Oh .. A Gaimuser :-)
[09:17] <Harkins> How does Ubuntu's automount work? I've switched my wm to fluxbox and it's stopped working.
[09:17] <nu> Once i find a way to play counterstrike source from here, i think ill delete my NTFS partition
[09:18] <nu> or leave it minimal, as emergency
[09:18] <fyrestrtr> and if you get links2 -- you can use fb to browse with images :)
[09:18] <Warbo> Harkins: It uses gnome-volume-manager to manage devices, so you won't get that in flux
[09:18] <jahshua> Harkins: do dmesg and identify the device first
[09:18] <jahshua> Harkins: whats the device you attached ?
[09:18] <Harkins> jahshua: I already know it's sdb1
[09:19] <aujordanh> nu, buy a Cedega subscription
[09:19] <jahshua> ok
[09:19] <jahshua> so do this Harkins ..
[09:19] <micahcowan> fyrestrtr, it's something of a problem that links-ssl is a dummy package that gets you a non-SSL-supporting version of elinks, no?
[09:19] <martin__> quit
[09:19] <teimu> nu, the only reason i dual boot is for games on win. the performance on newer games (css) lacks on wine or cedega. i would recommend keeping windoze
[09:19] <jahshua> sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/
[09:19] <ArcAnge1> fyrestrtr:       ArcAnge1: might have to adjust the refresh rates for that.     that i mean
[09:19] <Harkins> And then my user can't read the files.
[09:19] <nu> aye
[09:19] <jahshua> then cd /mnt/ and you should be able to look at the contents.
[09:19] <Warbo> jahshua: Not exactly automount is it? :)
[09:19] <aujordanh> teimu, all i need is armegatron and i am happy
[09:19] <jahshua> of course not.
[09:19] <cacophony> http://faculty.ccp.cc.pa.us/FACULTY/jhoward/southafrica/ubuntusign.jpg
[09:19] <jahshua> its called Unix.
[09:19] <teimu> aujordanh, good game =)
[09:20] <fyrestrtr> ArcAnge1: oh, first you need to find out what are those rates for your monitor. Check its documentation, or google your monitor model. Then, open up /etc/X11/xorg.conf and enter the values there.
[09:20] <Warbo> Would gnome-volume-manager run without GNOME?
[09:20] <roryyy48_> 2F
[09:20] <nu> aujordanh: i guess ill listen to teimu. if perfomance lacks for newer games, then ill just plays on wind0
[09:20] <Harkins> Warbo: Thanks, got it running.
[09:20] <jahshua> Harkins: ....
[09:20] <frogzoo> Warbo: alsamixer ?
[09:20] <Dabian> Warbo : Well .. you have KDE dress up like GNOME and try and fool gnome-volume-manager?
[09:20] <Warbo> frogzoo: volume as in drive
[09:20] <aujordanh> teimu, except the microbuscity.com server is running a different version that the ubuntu repos and i don't want to go through any long install process
[09:20] <teimu> nu, you also have to worry about strange debugging when games do not work. the games are made for win, so the best support to play them is there
[09:21] <nu> Will Nautiflus work on kxce?
[09:21] <Warbo> Dabian: Harkins is in Fluxbox
[09:21] <fyrestrtr> nu: man, just switch to gnome
[09:21] <Dabian> nu: I don't know?  Have you tried?
[09:21] <nu> teimu: ye ai hear you
[09:21] <jahshua> i just told him exactly what to do.
[09:21] <aujordanh> nu, also if you are only using it for games, you can format the partition and optimize windows for the games
[09:21] <jahshua> and then he thanks Warbo.
[09:21] <nu> fyrestrtr: i like xfce. its light and pretty
[09:21] <jahshua> haha
[09:21] <Dabian> jahshua : How could you do such a thing?
[09:21] <aujordanh> nu, no extra software etc...
[09:21] <nu> aujordanh: yea i think ill do that. format it and only install steam
[09:22] <teimu> aujordanh, is that that rts?
[09:22] <nu> Dabian: no. are you using xfce too?
[09:22] <aujordanh> nu, and do a custon install and put only the minimum on there
[09:22] <rr72> Where do i find logs?
[09:22] <nu> aujordanh: pretty sure i'll do that
[09:22] <rr72> the bot is broken !logs doesnt work
[09:22] <Warbo> rr72: /var/log
[09:22] <aujordanh> teimu, no the tron clone
[09:22] <rr72> for channels
[09:22] <Warbo> Oh
[09:22] <aujordanh> teimu, what were you thinking of
[09:22] <teimu> aujordanh, ooo
[09:22] <Warbo> !info gltron
[09:22] <ubotu> gltron: 3D lightcycle game. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.70final-7ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1905 kB, installed size 2704 kB
[09:22] <fyrestrtr> rr72: I told you already.
[09:22] <fyrestrtr> !logs
[09:22] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[09:23] <aujordanh> !info armagetron
[09:23] <ubotu> armagetron: 3D Tron-like high speed game. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.2.7.0-1.1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1005 kB, installed size 1856 kB
[09:23] <ArcAnge1> fyrestrtr: ok but i cant login cause during the instaal it only asks for a password and not for a username so when i press ctrl alt f1 i cant login :S
[09:23] <rr72> !logs doesnt work, he wasnt here
[09:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about logs doesnt work, he wasnt here - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:23] <nu> If i install gnome here through xfce, will i be able to choose which one to use?
[09:23] <aujordanh> armagetron > gltron
[09:23] <strangy> !info aspell-hr
[09:23] <ubotu> Package aspell-hr does not exist in dapper
[09:23] <rr72> they are missing for a few days
[09:23] <repoman63> i g0t perm ban
[09:23] <repoman63> i g0t perm ban
[09:23] <repoman63> i g0t perm ban
[09:23] <repoman63> i g0t perm ban
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[09:23] <repoman63> i g0t perm ban
[09:23] <repoman63> i g0t perm ban
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[09:23] <repoman63> i g0t perm ban
[09:23] <repoman63> i g0t perm ban
[09:23] <Dabian> repoman63 : Congratulations!
[09:23] <fyrestrtr> !ops
[09:23] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[09:23] <teimu> aujordanh, theres this rts that i apted a little while back. had somethign to do with controlling these blobs around that fight other blobs
[09:23] <Warbo> gltron is nicer (read: armagetron is too hard)
[09:23] <repoman63> i g0t perm ban
[09:23] <dr_willis_> rr72,  peraps ya should be googing for your problem - not tryign to find logs that may no longer esixt
[09:23] <repoman63> i g0t perm ban
[09:23] <repoman63> i g0t perm ban
[09:23] <repoman63> i g0t perm ban
[09:23] <repoman63> i g0t perm ban
[09:23] <Dabian> repoman63 : I think we got the message by now though.
[09:23] <abo> !restricted
[09:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:23] <Tricore> repoman63: That's quite understandable tbh
[09:23] <fyrestrtr> gawd someone please...
[09:24] <fyrestrtr> oh thanks Madp
[09:24] <aujordanh> teimu, globulation
[09:24] <Seveas> sigh
[09:24] <rr72> dr_willis_ i know my answer is in there
[09:24] <aujordanh> !info globulation
[09:24] <ubotu> Package globulation does not exist in dapper
[09:24] <Seveas> Madpilot, it's loserday
[09:24] <thegh0st> during the dapper install
[09:24] <nu> No one knows?
[09:24] <Seveas> airzer0 has been back around 20 times too
[09:24] <teimu> aujordanh, yea yea. thats it. i thought thats what you were talking about.
[09:24] <thegh0st> if I select "Use Large space" for partitioning
[09:24] <Dabian> Tricore: tbh?
[09:24] <Madpilot> Seveas, gah
[09:24] <Tricore> to be honest
[09:24] <thegh0st> does it just use the free space on my drive, because I CANT erase my windows parition
[09:24] <Dodzey> nu - install ubuntu-desktop, then you can as far as i know
[09:25] <aujordanh> teimu, right now i am trying to get legends to work, (a tribes clone)
[09:25] <Warbo> thegh0st: You will have to shrink the Windows partition with GParted (Gnome partition editor)
[09:25] <Dabian> Tricore : He was sure skilled at being annoying.
[09:25] <thegh0st> Warbo: I did, there is 20gb unallocated space
[09:25] <nu> Dodzey: i switched from ubuntu to xubuntu =D
[09:25] <thegh0st> Warbo: if I select use largest space will it just use the free space?
[09:25] <nu> Is gnome slower than xfce?
[09:25] <Warbo> thegh0st: Then using free space will work
[09:25] <fyrestrtr> nu: I don't see any difference here
[09:25] <Seveas> nu, not necessarily
[09:25] <Tricore> are there any compitability issues with using Ubuntu 64-bit version?
[09:25] <thegh0st> I only have 3 options
[09:26] <nu> You guys dont notice speed difference than? alright
[09:26] <Warbo> Tricore: Mainly in non-Free stuff (like codecs, Flash, etc.)
[09:26] <fyrestrtr> Tricore: a lot of things require tweaking and some just plain don't work.
[09:26] <teimu> aujordanh, ooo. tribes was my favorite game for a really long time. it was also my first online game, so its pretty sentimental to me. i will definately check legends out tho
[09:26] <thegh0st> Erase entire disk, use largest space, and manual
[09:26] <aujordanh> teimu, it crashes on joining servers for me
[09:26] <Tricore> Okay thx, I'll just stick to the x86 version then :)
[09:26] <Dabian> thegh0st: Muahahaahahahhaha!
[09:26] <Warbo> thegh0st: The second one is what I meant
[09:26] <thegh0st> ok
[09:27] <aujordanh> teimu, there are still active tribes servers (especially because it is free)
[09:27] <TheGateKeeper> Tricore: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[09:27] <Zi3d4n3> Hi
[09:27] <thegh0st> kk thanks
[09:27] <Dabian> !nickometer Zi3d4n3
[09:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about nickometer Zi3d4n3 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:27] <ic56> I suspect a hardware problem with an ethernet card.  Is there an easy-to-use protocol analyzer that I can run on a 2nd computer to show what the card is putting on the wire when I send a ping from it?  apt-cache search analyzer didn't report anything relevant...
[09:27] <Zi3d4n3> Anyone with Bluetooth experience ? Please i need help.
[09:27] <teimu> o yea. free dl now, huh?
[09:27] <fyrestrtr> !info ethereal
[09:27] <ubotu> ethereal: network traffic analyzer. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.99.0-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 564 kB, installed size 1500 kB
[09:27] <fyrestrtr> ic56: ^^^
[09:27] <Dabian> Zi3d4n3 : Your nick is new?
[09:27] <ic56> ty, fyrestrtr
[09:28] <fyrestrtr> Dabian: need a > in there ;)
[09:28] <Zi3d4n3> I can send files from my computer to my sony ericsson w800i, but i cant send from my phone to my pc
[09:28] <Dabian> fyrestrtr : Heh :)
[09:28] <Zi3d4n3> Dabian: No its not.
[09:28] <Dabian> Zi3d4n3 : To me it is!
[09:28] <fyrestrtr> Zi3d4n3: bluetooth or infrared?
[09:28] <Zi3d4n3> Dabian: ur right, when ur right ur right, via Bluetooth.
[09:28] <Seveas> Zi3d4n3, 'ur'?
[09:29] <Dabian> Zi3d4n3 : You like right talk :-)
[09:29] <fyrestrtr> Zi3d4n3: I have a K750i, and it works here, you must be missing a package.
[09:29] <twotwenty> how do i patch my kernel, let's say im using 2.6.16.14 and i want to install 2.6.16.17?
[09:29] <Warbo> KDE bluetooth seems more automatic than GNOME. If you have KDE try logging into it
[09:29] <fyrestrtr> !kernel
[09:29] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:29] <Zi3d4n3> frystrtr: yeh those are almost same phones, the thing is i can send from computer to phone but not from phone to computer
[09:30] <aujordanh> twotwenty, why do you want to?
[09:30] <twotwenty> aujordanh: it's my choice
[09:30] <fyrestrtr> Zi3d4n3: sudo apt-get install gnome-bluetooth obexserver
[09:30] <aujordanh> twotwenty, ????
[09:30] <Warbo> Bluetooth PINs can be weird. I think I had to edit a config file to get mine working
[09:30] <Zi3d4n3> fyrestrtr: will try it, thx.
[09:31] <bricktop> yo
[09:31] <bricktop> what up
[09:31] <twotwenty> aujordanh: my friend said for security puposes
[09:31] <Warbo> ^ that way
[09:31] <bricktop> i smash heads
[09:31] <bricktop> if you want a head smashed
[09:31] <SurfnKid> ok this has intrigued me for such a while
[09:31] <bricktop> message me
[09:31] <bricktop> $$
[09:31] <Zi3d4n3>  fyrestrtr: lol it wasnt installed ty.
[09:31] <aujordanh>  twotwenty if you are new to linux, i would advise you stick to ubuntu's dapper release
[09:32] <abo> which is better, xine or gstreamer, taking into account codec support/integration in firefox?
[09:32] <Warbo> !offtopic > bricktop
[09:32] <fyrestrtr> Zi3d4n3: might also want to try obexftp -- and once bluetooth is running as per your satisfaction -- try bluemon and grml-btnet
[09:32] <SurfnKid> im trying to see if there is a program that will output the transistor sounds or the chip sounds
[09:32] <SurfnKid> like hearing your pc as it works you know
[09:32] <SurfnKid> exit
[09:33] <Warbo> Transistors making sounds=knackered transistors
[09:33] <Talisker> is it possible to run two run xorg on two different sessions simultaniously?
[09:33] <bbrazil> Talisker: yes
[09:33] <Seveas> Talisker, sure
[09:33] <Talisker> How?
[09:33] <fyrestrtr> you better hope your transistors aren't making any noises....if they are, I suggest an *immediate* backup.
[09:33] <Zi3d4n3>  fyrestrtr: grml-btnet  arg i reinstalled ubuntu last night, i wanted to setup a bleutooth network so my other computer can use internet via bluetooth
[09:33] <Talisker> I get an error?
[09:33] <Seveas> Talisker, system  quit and select 'switch user'
[09:33] <Talisker> err... disregard the question mart
[09:33] <Warbo> !info gdmflexiserver
[09:33] <ubotu> Package gdmflexiserver does not exist in dapper
[09:33] <Talisker> system - quit?
[09:33] <Seveas> Talisker, in the gnome menu
[09:34] <Warbo> Talisker: If you are running X manually give it a different number, like X :10
[09:34] <Talisker> startx x :10
[09:34] <Talisker> ?
[09:34] <zetor> hello again!
[09:34] <Warbo> Talisker: possibly
[09:34] <fyrestrtr> talisein: startx -- DISPLAY:1
[09:34] <nu> bye all.
[09:34] <Talisker> thanks!
[09:34] <Warbo> I use X -ac :50 personally
[09:35] <baconbacon> does anybody have a link or a guide to installing apache+php locally (without root)
[09:35] <fyrestrtr> !lamp
[09:35] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:35] <Shinzetsu> Can someone help me with my sound issue? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1340862#post1340862
[09:35] <ricard1> Hey, I am totally new to Linux. I have installed Ubuntu and was having problems downloading the updates and programs. Somebody recommended me to use (/etc/init.d/networking restart) and everything seemed to work ok. However, now I am trying to install stuff from the Internet (i.e.: flash plug-in, eclipse, octave, etc). Every time I try to download something the connection will freeze in the middle of it. In order to restore, I have to Deactivate-
[09:36] <twotwenty> how do you uncompress .bz2
[09:36] <fyrestrtr> ricard1: how do you connect to the net?
[09:36] <micahcowan> bunzip2 file.bz2
[09:36] <Talisker> all these commands give me "unrecognized option"
[09:36] <J2D2> i ran apt-get update and got this W: Encountered status field in a non-version description
[09:36] <J2D2>  any ideas
[09:36] <ricard1> ethernet
[09:36] <twotwenty> try: sudo startx
[09:36] <ricard1> cable
[09:36] <Zi3d4n3>  fyrestrtr: can i backup my ubuntu (now all devices are working )??
[09:37] <Talisker> twotwenty, wouldn't that run an X seesion for my root account?
[09:37] <Seveas> J2D2, you may have added a nad repo
[09:37] <_wall`> sup
[09:37] <Shamurai> Hi
[09:37] <fyrestrtr> ricard1: does your network use DHCP?
[09:37] <X-Hacker`> Hi
[09:37] <micahcowan> Talisker, it should be "startx -- :10"
[09:37] <gh0zt> hello
[09:37] <ricard1> yes sir
[09:37] <J2D2> Seveas, a nad repo?
[09:37] <jtras1> quick question... is eclipse still broken for amd64, and if so, any other good way for me to work with java?
[09:37] <fyrestrtr> ricard1: it could be that you aren't getting the right DNS servers, or one of them is timing out.
[09:37] <Seveas> bad*
[09:37] <J2D2> oh :)
[09:37] <Talisker> micahcowan, that's better, but I get another error
[09:38] <fyrestrtr> ricard1: check the contents of /etc/resolv.conf (type cat /etc/resolv.conf) and see if it points to the right ip addresses for your setup.
[09:38] <Talisker> It tells me all fonts are already assigned to 0
[09:38] <J2D2> heya MenZa
[09:38] <Mora> fyrestrtr, DNS has nothing to connections timing out in the middle.
[09:38] <micahcowan> Talisker, that's weird, I've never seen /that/ error.
[09:38] <MenZa> lo.
[09:38] <Shinzetsu> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1340862#post1340862
[09:38] <fyrestrtr> Mora: its an initial troubleshooting step.
[09:39] <krim> I tried installing Ubuntu 6.06 (Dapper Drake) and when I get to the login screen I can move the mouse for one or two seconds then everything freezes and I have to manually turn the computer off and then on again. I've been able to install 5.10 (Breezy Badger) earlier. Perhaps it has something to do with my motherboard - EPoX EP-8KDA3+ (nVIDIA nForce 3) - or my graphic card - ATI Radeon 9800 PRO ?
[09:39] <micahcowan> Talisker can you paste the full error result from the failed startx?
[09:39] <Talisker> how do I copy them from a different [text]  session?
[09:39] <fyrestrtr> krim: does your keyboard lock?
[09:39] <Warbo> krim: What driver are you using for your graphics?
[09:39] <Shamurai> ok
[09:39] <gh0zt> ok
[09:39] <krim> fyrestrtr, everything locks, can't do anything but turn it off.
[09:39] <encompass> can I ask a python question?
[09:40] <krim> Warbo, don't know? Fresh install.
[09:40] <fyrestrtr> encompass: better in #python :)
[09:40] <starscream[2] > does anyone know that if I use the QTParted Tool on my windows partition to resize it, will I risk losing data or will it only resize free space?
[09:40] <encompass> k
[09:40] <ricard1> but the strange thing is that I can actually surf the web. The DNS servers are OK, I just checked them.
[09:40] <fyrestrtr> starscream[2] : you shouldn't lose anything, but make sure you defrag the disk first.
[09:40] <micahcowan> Talisker, oh, that's right, gpm isn't installed by default. Okay, try "startx -- :10 2>errors.log" and paste the contents of that file?
[09:40] <starscream[2] > darn, it would take ages
[09:40] <fyrestrtr> ricard1: does this only happen when you are installing packages?
[09:40] <Warbo> starscream[2] : It will not let you resize beyond the data it holds, but it is always safer to backup stuff
[09:41] <starscream[2] > fyrestrtr> is there a quick way to degrag?
[09:41] <encompass> nope
[09:41] <Warbo> starscream[2] : Use ext3 :)
[09:41] <ricard1> it happens when I download them. I do not get to the point of installing them
[09:41] <encompass> haha...
[09:41] <fyrestrtr> Talisker: its startx -- :10 &2 > errors.log
[09:41] <ArcAnge1> fyrestrtr: ok but i cant login cause during the instaal it only asks for a password and not for a username so when i press ctrl alt f1 i cant login :S
[09:41] <starscream[2] > Warbo> ext3?
[09:41] <fyrestrtr> ArcAnge1: install of what?
[09:41] <Warbo> starscream[2] : Linux filesystem, doesn't need defragging
[09:42] <ArcAnge1> ubuntu
[09:42] <starscream[2] > Warbo> yeah but I am resizing a windows partition to make way for ubuntu
[09:42] <carpediem> starscream[2] : on 2.6 kernel, there's a disk geometry problem where you can lose your ability to boot to your Windows partition if you resize it.  Happened to me a few months back.
[09:42] <fyrestrtr> ArcAnge1: it sure does ask you for a username. Maybe you forgot it?
[09:42] <Warbo> starscream[2] : Hence the :)
[09:42] <nicholaspaul> Mora: hey, i'm back. I'm just wondering - how do i install grub on this second drive, now that i have the system duplicated?
[09:42] <fyrestrtr> !grub
[09:42] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:42] <starscream[2] > carpediem> is it fixable?
[09:42] <Mora> nicholaspaul, look at what ubotu said.
[09:42] <mc44> when I set an alias in shell it dissapears after a reboot - is there any way to make it permenant? man alias doesnt seem to exist
[09:43] <fyrestrtr> mc44: add it in ~/.bashrc
[09:43] <carpediem> starscream[2] : I wasn't able to fix it.  I could still mount the parition in Linux, but couldn't boot it.  There's very long, long instructions on fixing it that I never had the time to go through.
[09:43] <fyrestrtr> mc44: if you want it system-wide (ie, for all users), add it in /etc/profile
[09:43] <nicholaspaul> Mora: k. cheers!
[09:43] <nicholaspaul> thx fyrestrtr
[09:43] <starscream[2] > fyrestrtr> what happens if I am so impatient that I skip defragging my windows partition before resizing it?
[09:43] <mc44> fyrestrtr: the entire command - ie 'alias blah=blahblah' ?
[09:44] <fyrestrtr> mc44: yeap
[09:44] <Talisker> http://paste.uni.cc/8974
[09:44] <mc44> fyrestrtr: great, thanks!
[09:44] <micahcowan> fyrestrtr, no, it's /not/ & 2 > error.log.
[09:44] <fyrestrtr> starscream[2] : you'll then learn to be patient, because it will take ... FOREVER to resize it :)
[09:44] <Zi3d4n3>  fyrestrtr:  i installed OBex, the phone doesnt see any services on my computer, and i cant send files to the computer , any idea's ?
[09:44] <ArcAnge1> fyrestrtr:  did not install with the live cd but with the alternate one does that have anything to do with it?
[09:44] <DarkAudit> trying to find the command to automagically detect my ntfs partition and update fstab accordingly...
[09:44] <Mora> Anyone here using JFS?
[09:44] <fyrestrtr> micahcowan: its &2 not & 2
[09:44] <micahcowan> yeah, I know. Still wrong.
[09:44] <DarkAudit> found it in a forum post, and can't find it again
[09:44] <fyrestrtr> micahcowan: hrmm
[09:45] <micahcowan> it starts stuff in the background, and doesn't redirect properly.
[09:45] <_jeff> hey guys
[09:45] <starscream[2] > fyrestrtr> so QTparted does a kinda defrag while resizing that takes much longer than does a windows defrag?
[09:45] <Mora> Redirecting streams to file: command > log.file 2>&1
[09:45] <_jeff> whats the command to see what modules load with the kernel?
[09:45] <micahcowan>  >& errors.log would work, though.
[09:45] <fyrestrtr> starscream[2] : something like that
[09:45] <micahcowan> or what Mora said.
[09:45] <fyrestrtr> micahcowan: hrmm ah yeah, what Mora said.
[09:45] <micahcowan> (mine's a shorthand, just above)
[09:46] <Talisker> micahcowan, are you talking to me?
[09:46] <micahcowan> Talisker, not atm. :-)
[09:46] <Talisker> oh
[09:46] <starscream[2] > fyrestrtr> nightmare! well it would take all night to defrage 80gig worth of data on the partition, is there a quicker way to do it?
[09:46] <thegh0st> kde is a long Kompile
[09:46] <thegh0st> lol
[09:46] <fyrestrtr> starscream[2] : defrag is not something you really associate with any version of 'quick' or 'fast'
[09:46] <ArcAnge1> fyrestrtr: and if so i have forgot it (it could be i mean im on it the whole #$@% day)   is ther a possibility to retrive it?
[09:46] <starscream[2] > fyrestrtr> unless you can help me with my initial problem that no one could help me with earlier...?
[09:46] <Talisker> kde is krap imho
[09:47] <Mora> starscream[2] , move the data off the partition, move it back.
[09:47] <starscream[2] > Mora> I feel sick at the thought of that or defragging
[09:47] <starscream[2] > mora> takes a while to shift 80 gig
[09:47] <Mora> starscream[2] , I guess you're referencing to Windows?
[09:47] <fyrestrtr> starscream[2] : guess you need to get som pepto-bismol :)
[09:48] <starscream[2] > Mora> indeed
[09:48] <starscream[2] > ok guys, see if anyone can help me with a related problem to save me days of defragging!
[09:48] <starscream[2] > ok here goes.....
[09:48] <fyrestrtr> ArcAnge1: there is a way, but its a bit complicated.
[09:48] <Bonez> anybody get cs working with cedega?
[09:49] <micahcowan> Talisker, did you get a paste?
[09:49] <fyrestrtr> ArcAnge1: you need to boot from the livecd, mount your hard disk, and look into the home directory to see who is there.
[09:49] <Bonez> i fail the direct 3d and 3d acceleration test
[09:49] <Talisker> Yeah, I already linked it
[09:49] <Talisker> http://paste.uni.cc/8974
[09:49] <micahcowan> Sorry, I hadn't seen it (it helps to use my name, so the client notifies me)
[09:49] <fyrestrtr> Bonez: try http://appdb.winehq.org
[09:49] <starscream[2] > I have installed ubuntu on a USB hard drive, all went on fine following a guide and i am sure it will work fine, however my new laptop does not support booting from USB strange as it may sound. Is there a way to boot to the USB installation from either the windows bootloader or using an ubuntu CD to boot the USB drive. The ubuntu installation recognised the drive easy enough...
[09:49] <ArcAnge1> that is complicated indeed hahaha
[09:50] <ProN00b> starscream[2] , most likely ^^
[09:50] <poker1> hey guys .......i just installed Ubuntu on server here and looking for program to run IRC ..... please help?
[09:50] <starscream[2] > Once in Ubuntu I could follow some instructions to move a boot file to the windows C drive and use the XP bootloader
[09:50] <fyrestrtr> poker1: a client or a server?
[09:50] <ProN00b> does anyone know a pci to usb2 card thats compatible with ubuntu ?
[09:50] <poker1> client
[09:51] <aujordanh> poker1, xchat
[09:51] <starscream[2] > Anyone know how to get my USB drive to work then?
[09:51] <fyrestrtr> poker1: irssi
[09:51] <aujordanh> poker1, or irrsi is already on there
[09:51] <starscream[2] > well, how to get it booted
[09:51] <fyrestrtr> starscream[2] : the install process will take care of that for you
[09:51] <fyrestrtr> starscream[2] : you'll be able to dual boot.
[09:51] <starscream[2] > I have finished the install process all instealled
[09:51] <starscream[2] > no , my laptop cannot boot from USB
[09:51] <aujordanh> starkruz1, then it probably cant boot a usb drive
[09:51] <starscream[2] > so I need to boot it from somewhere else to look at the USB drive
[09:51] <fyrestrtr> starscream[2] : oh wait, you are the usb idio...I mean, user.
[09:52] <starscream[2] > yes, that I am fyrestrtr
[09:52] <uzz> does anyone know how to set up a crypto-partition on dapper ?
[09:52] <fyrestrtr> starscream[2] : try a grub floppy...might work.
[09:52] <starscream[2] > fyrestrtr: my silly new laptop doesnt allow USB to be selected a boot optioin
[09:52] <SurfnKid> sup DLinkTrapMode
[09:52] <Polygon> quick question! on this guide: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_configure_sound_to_work_properly_in_GNOME (General Tab -> Sounds for events (Un-Checked), does that mean to disable system sounds
[09:52] <starscream[2] > fyrestryr> can you point me into the direction to making one?
[09:52] <fyrestrtr> starscream[2] : return it, and get something decent.
[09:52] <Seveas> Polygon, yes
[09:52] <aujordanh> starscream[2] , is there a boot disk available like damn small linux?
[09:52] <DLinkTrapMode> Sup.
[09:52] <Polygon> thanks!
[09:52] <fyrestrtr> starscream[2] : try !grub
[09:53] <Mr_Magic> anyone who has used qiv before to start a slideshow? I was wondering if there is a way that the new added files in the slideshow directory could also be showed without restarting qiv
[09:53] <fyrestrtr> !grub > starscream[2] 
[09:53] <YoussefAssad> dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hdz # NB: Do not attempt to run this, example of how not to set up a cryptographically secure partition
[09:53] <fyrestrtr> !truecrypt
[09:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about truecrypt - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:53] <aujordanh> fyrestrtr, if you use the > username does it message the user only
[09:53] <J2D2> i went to source-o-matic and got the basic sources and when i ran apt-get update it went through all the updating and then gave this error five times W: Encountered status field in a non-version description
[09:53] <ProN00b> does anyone know a usb2 pci card thats compatible with ubuntu ?
[09:53] <SurfnKid> Warbo, do ya think i have to install a FireFox plugin for PDF printing
[09:53] <fyrestrtr> aujordanh: yes
[09:53] <aujordanh> !info gnome >jordanau
[09:53] <ubotu> gnome: The GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1:2.12.2.3 (dapper), package size 11 kB, installed size 44 kB
[09:54] <fyrestrtr> aujordanh: just /msg ubotu your-query
[09:54] <aujordanh> fyrestrtr, cool!
[09:54] <starscream[2] > fyrestrtr> actually, if I put GRUB onto the MBR instead of the USB Drive could that fix the prob? Would grub load windows ok from the MBR?
[09:54] <ricard1> Whenever I try to download something from the Internet my connection will freeze and I'll have to Deactivate-Activate it. Can anybody give me a hand with my problem? As of suggestions I have  received in the chat, I used /etc/init.d/networking restart and I have check that the DNS address is OK. Thanks.
[09:54] <fyrestrtr> starscream[2] : you need to worry about detection first, how would you tell grub what is your usb drive?
[09:55] <Talisker> micahcowan, any bells ringing? :/
[09:55] <starscream[2] > fyrestrtr> the same way grub would recognise it from the USB drive itself?
[09:55] <Mora> Hmm... Where's my RIP..
[09:55] <fyrestrtr> starscream[2] : you can try it, but I have a strange feeling it won't work.
[09:55] <starscream[2] > fyrestrtr> such as /dev/sda....
[09:55] <minerale> Hi, is it possible to run vncserver (Xvnc) as a user? Or must It be suid ?
[09:55] <aujordanh> starscream[2] , you did check your bios right?
[09:55] <proj> has anyone familiar with a problem where button widgets get strange lines on them until you roll over them
[09:55] <micahcowan> Talisker, actually, I'm having troubles of my own trying it (though they seem different). :-(  ...I'm on edgy, so my problems may be related to that...
[09:56] <starscream[2] > aujordanh> yes I did but up only allows the enabling of legacy USB rather than setting USB as a boot option and then it doesnt detect the USB drive as a bootable drive
[09:56] <proj> it isn't really stopping my work .. but I'm wondering if there is a quick fix
[09:56] <Mora> minerale, you can run xvnc as a user.
[09:56] <ProN00b> does anyone know a usb2 pci card thats compatible with ubuntu ?
[09:57] <Dex-Freudii> I received my 6.06 LTS CD... how do I upgrade from 5.10?
[09:57] <starscream[2] > aujordanh> unless I try disabling all other boot devices?
[09:57] <fyrestrtr> ProN00b: I don't think there is such a thing as in 'incompatible' usb2 card.
[09:57] <gjoogjoob> okay
[09:57] <gjoogjoob> I have a HUGE problem
[09:57] <aujordanh> starscream[2] , wont help, will just make it easier if you try different boot options to test them
[09:57] <gjoogjoob> my ubuntu install didn't erm, install make for some reason
[09:57] <DLinkTrapMode> how to I upgrade to the latest gnome version just released?
[09:57] <Seveas> !compiling > gjoogjoob
[09:58] <fyrestrtr> gjoogjoob: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:58] <Seveas> DLinkTrapMode, you don't
[09:58] <ProN00b> fyrestrtr, i had one here that only did usb1.1 (on windows and linux)
[09:58] <uzz> fyrestrtr: thanx for truecrypt now i know what to search for!
[09:58] <starscream[2] > fyrestrtr, anjordanh> my pc can actually see the USB hdd as it says so on post, it just doesnt boot from it and can be forced to only can be set to auto
[09:58] <fyrestrtr> DLinkTrapMode: wait till its availble in repos.
[09:58] <Seveas> DLinkTrapMode, if you want bleeding edge gnome you need edgy
[09:58] <starscream[2] > aujordanh> its a really poor bios as far as Im concerned, hardlys any options
[09:58] <DLinkTrapMode> its not in repos yet?
[09:59] <fyrestrtr> starscream[2] : its probably a crippled bios that is common with laptops.
[09:59] <aujordanh> starscream[2] , have you thought about flashing your bios with an update?
[09:59] <m4rk> how about flashing your toots instead
[09:59] <godtvisken> Hey.. I have `msttcorefonts' installed (through apt-get), but in OpenOffice I cannot find the `Times New Roman' font listed. What's wrong?
[09:59] <Mora> Heh.. When I started looking for a RIP cd, I realised that I've set up tftp server and I can netboot to it.. and then, after long, hard moment of thinking I realised that netbooting a tftp server from itself is kinda hard.
[09:59] <starscream[2] > aujordanh> I believe this is the best bios for the machine, I checked their support site and my bio is newer than their update! lol
[09:59] <gjoogjoob> i just tried apt-getting the build-essential
[10:00] <gjoogjoob> but uh, it couldn't find the package
[10:00] <Dex-Freudii> I received my 6.06 LTS CD... how do I upgrade from 5.10?
[10:00] <Seveas> Dex-Freudii, not with the cd 
[10:00] <sotired> i installed ubuntu to my older dell laptop. I attempted to get my wireless card working. (according to the wiki it works out of the box). Now  it doenst work, and whats worse any application i try to run starts to load but doesnt. any ideas/
[10:00] <Seveas> Dex-Freudii, gksudo update-manager -d
[10:01] <m4rk> what sort of dell sotired?
[10:01] <starscream[2] > aujordanh> could the hard drive need to be made bootable?
[10:01] <micahcowan> Seveas, are you using kinput2, to get the "tsu"-smiley?
[10:01] <m4rk> I just installed ubuntu on my d505 wireless works just fine
[10:01] <Seveas> no
[10:01] <sotired> m4rk: inspiron 8000 700mhz/ 320 ram
[10:01] <micahcowan> copy-paste, or how?
[10:01] <aujordanh> starscream[2] , not that i know of, but that is more of a hardware issue and could better be solved snooping around hardware forums
[10:01] <Seveas> micahcowan, japanese keyboard
[10:01] <sotired> it was working, i didnt have probs until my wireless config failed
[10:02] <micahcowan> oh.... lucky....   :-)
[10:02] <gjoogjoob> wtf
[10:02] <_jeff> how do you add a module to you rkernel?
[10:02] <_jeff> how do you see your kernel version?
[10:02] <Seveas> _jeff, modprobe module_name
[10:02] <godtvisken> Hey.. I have `msttcorefonts' installed (through apt-get), but in OpenOffice I cannot find the `Times New Roman' font listed. What's wrong?
[10:02] <Seveas> _jeff, uname -r
[10:02] <Dodzey> gjoogjoob - check your repositories
[10:02] <dave> I just downloaded some cups drivers (debian package) it installed so in the ubuntu cups printer setup where do i look for the drivers ( where is the default cups drivers directory?)\
[10:03] <rosshend> whats the best place to put your swap partitions mount point? im installing ubuntu for the first time
[10:03] <Seveas> rosshend, swap partitions don't have a mount point.
[10:03] <rosshend> seveas.. really.. ok
[10:04] <NickGarvey> rosshend: yeah, its just "swapon -a"
[10:04] <_jeff> Seveas: thanks mate
[10:04] <_jeff> Seveas: maybe you might be able to help me with something
[10:04] <sorush20> I want my scanner to work with ubuntu... I hate microsoft..
[10:04] <nico8481_> hi
[10:04] <sotired> ok, i can start apps, just not as root
[10:04] <sotired> like administrative tools
[10:04] <dave> sotired sudo
[10:05] <dave> ohh
[10:05] <sotired> i know about sudo, that isnt my prob
[10:05] <dave> anyone know where the printer drivers are?
[10:05] <_jeff> Seveas: i update/upgraded a bunch of packages on August 1st after being away for the weekend (my computer was fully upgraded before then)
[10:05] <fnoo> I just installed Ubuntu and it did not correctly set my resolution, since I have a widescreen LCD. Also, it is using "ati" instead of "radeon" drivers, so there isn't direct rendering. Since both deal with the xorg.conf, which should I try to fix first?
[10:05] <NickGarvey> !fixres > fnoo
[10:05] <Dex-Freudii> Seveas, why not with the CD?
[10:05] <NickGarvey> fnoo: that should fix that first part
[10:05] <pekay> !restartingkde
[10:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about restartingkde - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:06] <Seveas> Dex-Freudii, the shipit cd's cannot be used for upgrades
[10:06] <pekay> how i restart kde?
[10:06] <Seveas> pekay, <ctrl><alt><bksp>
[10:06] <fyrestrtr> pekay: ctrl+alt+backspace
[10:06] <NickGarvey> pekay: ctrl alt.. yeah..
[10:06] <fnoo> NickGarvey: OK, but do I want to fix it first? I've had problems before where one fix would undo the other.
[10:06] <fyrestrtr> or, from a console, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[10:06] <_jeff> Seveas: the packages were compiz quinn, aiglx packages and a bunch of gnome desktop packages. when i restarted my computer as required, my wireless network card was not recognized anymore as a wireless network adapter and became unknown to the device manager
[10:06] <NickGarvey> fnoo: no idea heh, my graphics card is not supported so I have never played with that kind of stuff
[10:07] <steveire> If I rm * there is no confirmation, and the data is unrecoverabl, right?
[10:07] <_jeff> Seveas: any ideas?
[10:07] <fyrestrtr> steveire: yeap
[10:07] <NickGarvey> steveire: um, kind of.. if the files are write protected it will ask
[10:07] <murph2481> question....i need to reinstall windows....will windows overright my MBR and remove GRUB? if so how can i restore GRUB after i reinstall windows so I can still duel boot?
[10:07] <NickGarvey> steveire: and there might be a way to recover them depending on your filesystem.. _might
[10:07] <steveire> It should need an -f switch for that
[10:07] <fyrestrtr> steveire: of course, if you don't have permissions, it will complain.
[10:07] <rosshend> where do i find an install tutorial online? i cant find one in the wiki.
[10:07] <fyrestrtr> !grub
[10:07] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:08] <NickGarvey> !grub > murph2481
[10:08] <steveire> I created some dummy files and it didn't complain
[10:08] <NickGarvey> steveire: thats because the permissions were +w
[10:08] <NickGarvey> steveire: in general, no it won't ask
[10:08] <Coag> woot my ubuntu cds came in today
[10:09] <Albertop> Seveas, thanks for the help. Now it works. Don't know why, but I'm connected! :))
[10:09] <fnoo> steveire: There are some ways to recover deleted files, but it's not guarenteed.
[10:09] <NickGarvey> Coag: :)
[10:09] <murph2481> NickGarvey thank yoU :)
[10:10] <steveire> http://pie.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054972075 <<< in relation to this thread btw.
[10:10] <BobSongs> Greetings one and all. Question for anyone who has experience with MSN file transfers: Is aMSN any faster at sending/receiving files than Gaim is?
[10:10] <BobSongs> I find Gaim to be horribly slow. No fault of Gaim's of course.
[10:10] <NickGarvey> whoa.. not a nice quit message
[10:11] <Dodzey> BobSongs: hey, erm...it's typically the msn server that determines speed
[10:11] <rustlerharv> i find gaim not to work for file most the time
[10:11] <steveO_> gaim sucks.
[10:11] <Dodzey> BobSongs: my gaim works fine and seems pretty fast, but ive never used amsn so i can't compare
[10:11] <steveO_> i have issues with it on windows too.
[10:11] <NickGarvey> I like gaim
[10:11] <NickGarvey> for everything cept irc
[10:11] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Dodzey! You're... still here? Good grief. ;) Good to hear from you again.
[10:11] <fyrestrtr> man, if gaim looked like adium, it would rock.
[10:12] <rustlerharv> i find gaim only works for file transfer etween gaim users
[10:12] <steveO_> gaim seemed OK at first then as of late got flakey in my experience and a few others i've talked too.  not sure why it's flakey for some and not for others.
[10:12] <fyrestrtr> funny, since adium is based on the same libs as gaim
[10:12] <nicholaspaul> If I looked like Adium, Id rock...
[10:12] <Dodzey> bobsongs: i'm not *still* here, i just open IRC again about 20mins or so ago
[10:12] <BobSongs> Dodzey: lol! Well, I just hopped on too.
[10:12] <BobSongs> Dodzey:  You find Gaim gives you good transfer rates?
[10:13] <BobSongs> Dodzey:    Are you on dial up or high speed?
[10:13] <krim> Er, is it possible to delete a newly started thread in ubuntuforums.org ? I pressed "edit/delete" but I don't see any delete button.
[10:13] <Albertop> BobSongs, gaim on MSN can't give high transfer rates. It uses the old MSN protocol.
[10:13] <Dodzey> BobSongs: highspeed
[10:13] <Albertop> At least in 1.5
[10:13] <BobSongs> krim:    You may have to ask a moderator to delete a thread.
[10:14] <BobSongs> Dodzey:    Under Windows I used to get such fast transfers. In Gaim the best way I can describe it is "painful".
[10:14] <krim> BobSongs, Thanks.
[10:14] <fyrestrtr> Welcome To Linux BobSongs :)
[10:14] <Pseudonym> Hey guys, I am having problems with sound all of a sudden... sound on my computer is only working in a few apps (notably xmms and totem) and the volume control doesn't do anything... what could be the root of my problem?
[10:14] <Dodzey> Dodzey: hmm..yeah...just try aMSN and the like, you can always remove it
[10:15] <BobSongs> fyrestrtr:     Many thanks! I've used Breezy Badger since its release and I'm now comfortably using Dapper.
[10:15] <Dodzey> BobSongs: hmm..yeah...just try aMSN and the like, you can always remove it....ive found it to be as fast as live messenger was in windows nehow
[10:15] <verbose> does ubuntu save a dmesg.boot anywhere?
[10:15] <BobSongs> fyrestrtr:     But I was with (blushes) Windows since version 3.0.
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> BobSongs: good to see the light, aint it?
[10:16] <NickGarvey> Pseudonym: I'm not sure why this happens or how to fix it, but often, only one application can use the sound card at a time
[10:16] <rustlerharv> i still have to use windows for crap
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> NickaNicka: this is a problem with most built-in sound cards that don't provide an onboard mixer. Try !dmix
[10:16] <Pseudonym> That is not the issue; things that should work all of a sudden don't ie, the volume control.
[10:17] <BobSongs> fyrestrtr:      heeheehee. Yeah; y'know... DOS & Win 3.1 were actually fun in their time. And I kinda miss the fun of tinkering "under the hood" shall we say. Ubuntu has brought that fun back to computing. XP kinda got boring fast.
[10:17] <frenkel> i just installed monodevelop in dapper
[10:17] <frenkel> and i get this error when starting it
[10:17] <MilesAttacca> I just installed the nvidia-glx deb package, but in the terminal I was given an error saying I have to manually edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section from nv to nvidia. Since "nv" isn't there at all (Generic Video Card, vesa, PCI:0:5:0), how should I proceed?
[10:18] <frenkel> Unhandled Exception: System.Configuration.ConfigurationException: Cannot find /etc/mono/1.0/machine.config ()
[10:18] <fyrestrtr> Milchmann: change Driver "whatever" to Driver "nvidia"
[10:18] <BobSongs> Dodzey:      I just installed aMSN in hopes that file transfers might pick up a bit. Besides. I believe MSFT changes their transfer protocols from time to time -- hence the frequent updates to MSN Messenger. And the current version of Gaim may not be up to spec.
[10:18] <frenkel> how can i solve that?
[10:18] <frenkel> shouldn't it just work just after install?
[10:18] <rustlerharv> !amule
[10:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about amule - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:19] <starscream[2] > fyrestrtr> you know how you said it would take ages to resize a partition?
[10:19] <Pseudonym> Curiously... the volume control is working again...
[10:19] <fyrestrtr> starscream[2] : please tell me I was wrong.
[10:19] <BobSongs> fyrestrtr:     Ages?
[10:19] <starscream[2] > fyrestrtr> well I only need to resize it so I can free up 10gig, would I still have to wait forever?
[10:19] <StyXman> any good docs on how to get a wifi card work with ndiswrapper?
[10:19] <Dodzey> BobSongs: you could try adium also
[10:19] <fyrestrtr> starscream[2] : yes, since its not relative to how much free space you want.
[10:20] <fyrestrtr> adium is osx only, I thought.
[10:20] <starscream[2] > fyrstrtr> what is it relative?
[10:20] <starscream[2] > to
[10:20] <BobSongs> Dodzey:     Ooo. adium, eh? It's in the repos?
[10:20] <Dodzey> BobSongs: actually, no, its just OS X, shit, i always thought there was a linux version
[10:20] <StyXman> any good docs on how to get a wifi card work with ndiswrapper?
[10:20] <fyrestrtr> starscream[2] : [a]  how full your drive is [b]  how fragmented it is [c]  x
[10:20] <snooplsm> who here has installed tomcat, i need some help
[10:20] <Dodzey> BobSongs: haha, learn something every day
[10:20] <BobSongs> Dodzey: lol
[10:20] <StyXman> uh, sorry for repeating :(
[10:20] <MilesAttacca> I just installed the nvidia-glx deb package, but in the terminal I was given an error saying I have to manually edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section from nv to nvidia. Since "nv" isn't there at all (Generic Video Card, vesa, PCI:0:5:0), how should I proceed?
[10:21] <Dodzey> BobSongs: sounds like aMSN will be the bets bet anyway
[10:21] <BobSongs> Dodzey:      You use Mac stuff too?
[10:21] <silentread> MilesAttacca: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper
[10:21] <fyrestrtr> MilesAttacca: in Section "Device" change Driver "whateverishere" to Driver "nvidia"
[10:22] <Pseudonym> Ok... I think the problem is that for whatever reason the sound server for almost everything was changed away from ALSA... is thier a way to get everything working on ALSA again? for some creepy reason, I don't see the option under sound in system|preferences|sound.
[10:22] <Dodzey> BobSongs: i used to run it under PearPC on my windows box....the performance aint great but its fun to tinker
[10:22] <BobSongs> Dodzey:     Isn't that why we work with GNU/Linux? Tinkering?
[10:22] <MilesAttacca> fyrestrtr: Do I need to change the identifier?
[10:23] <fyrestrtr> MilesAttacca: no
[10:23] <Dodzey> BobSongs: yeah, but come on...its Mac OS X! :-p...lol
[10:23] <BobSongs> Dodzey:     bwaahahahahahaa
[10:23] <pekay> Someone please, adept _always_ says my database is locked, even when I reboot
[10:24] <Zi3d4n3> Hello
[10:24] <DLinkTrapMode> ..
[10:24] <Dodzey> BobSongs: i came to the conclusion that the interface is nice (but utterly confusing) but its not all its cracked up to be
[10:24] <floppyears> hi
[10:24] <floppyears> I am going to install ubuntu on my mac book pro
[10:24] <floppyears> is there a filesystem that both mac os x can read and linux too ?
[10:25] <fyrestrtr> floppyears: HFS
[10:25] <fyrestrtr> floppyears: the 'native' osx filesystem
[10:25] <nicholaspaul> Mora: More Grub questions! What should menu.lst on the new drive look like to boot? i've been thru the HOWTO...
[10:25] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Well. It's probably nicer that DOS's interface:     C:\>
[10:25] <DLinkTrapMode> instead of focusing on ubuntu so much why dont we declear way on microsoft and start blowing shit up
[10:25] <Zi3d4n3> I'm using a webcam and bleutoot usb dongle, Ubuntu seems to have a conflict when both are connected, when bluetooth is connected the webcam cant be accesed. I need help pls.
[10:25] <floppyears> fyrestrtr: oh, so both linux and mac os x can read and write to that file system ?
[10:25] <fyrestrtr> floppyears: yes
[10:25] <Dodzey> DLinkTrapMode: that is the exact kind of thing that got you called a troll in the off-topic channel
[10:26] <Guardian> re
[10:26] <floppyears> fyrestrtr: how good is the filesystem ? is it journaled ? how does it compare to ext3 ?
[10:26] <Guardian> is there a way to remove games ?
[10:26] <Guardian> it depends on the ubuntu pacakge
[10:26] <DLinkTrapMode> Dodzey I am who I am lump it.
[10:26] <Guardian> i don't want to remove more than games
[10:26] <fyrestrtr> floppyears: don't know about all that I'm afraid. Google it :)
[10:26] <Dodzey> BobSongs: DOS's interface wasn't too bad, it was bad. but not too bad
[10:26] <floppyears> thanks guys
[10:26] <dreamthief> floppyears, hfs is noch journaled
[10:26] <fyrestrtr> floppyears: to be honest, I think osx can also read ext3 (since its just bsd)
[10:26] <pekay> please someone, apt is broken here
[10:26] <dreamthief> only hfs+ is journaled
[10:27] <dreamthief> but linux can't acces hfs+ drives with journaling enabled
[10:27] <docko> can anybody tell me how to execute a php script without apache? on my server running centos php is located in /usr/bin/php, but i'm not able to find it in ubuntu...
[10:27] <fyrestrtr> docko: sudo apt-get install php5-cli -- then php -q file.php
[10:27] <MilesAttacca> fyrestrtr: Should I restart the computer to let the new settings take effect, or is there another command I can use?
[10:27] <docko> fyrestrtr, thanx!
[10:28] <nicholaspaul> fyrestrtr: i followed the grub HOWTO, first of all i just got the word GRUB on the screen, wouldnt boot.Copying grub from the old to new drive wont work?
[10:28] <fyrestrtr> MilesAttacca: restart X, or if its not running, just type from a console sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (if you are using gnome) or /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[10:28] <Dodzey> BobSongs: i still have it on a testbed machine actually, alongside numerous windows installs
[10:28] <steveire> pekay: what is broken?
[10:28] <steveire> !anyone
[10:28] <fyrestrtr> nicholaspaul: no, you just need to set it up, grub-install /dev/whateveristhebootdrive
[10:28] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:29] <nicholaspaul> fyrestrtr:  oh i see. tanks!
[10:29] <pekay> steveO_: if i reboot, restart X or w/e, database is always locked
[10:29] <MilesAttacca> fyrestrtr: How do I restart X?
[10:29] <BobSongs> Dodzey:     Well. Linux has what I liked about DOS... and more. It's kind of like DOS where DOS should have been had it lived till today.
[10:29] <npster> What is a good complier for C++ in ubuuntu. I really hate Anjuta. Please specify ?
[10:29] <plhardy> starscream[2] : keep tuned i am installing a (k)ubuntu on a external USB disk i will be able to tell you how to resovle your problem
[10:30] <untung> hi
[10:30] <fyrestrtr> MilesAttacca: from within X, ctrl+alt+backspace, from the console (ie, non-X terminal) sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart or /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[10:30] <Dodzey> BobSongs: yeah, except DOS not being scalable enough to live till today...heh
[10:30] <untung> anybody is using monodevelop here?
[10:30] <fyrestrtr> npster: Anjunta isn't a compiler, but ignoring that for a second -- you can always try eclipse.
[10:30] <Dodzey> untung: yeah, but aint been using it long
[10:30] <nicholaspaul> Q: Am i the only one missing a RESTART or SHUTDOWN buttons anywhere?
[10:30] <Dodzey> untung: i used to code in .neton windows, so ithought i'd check it out
[10:30] <fyrestrtr> nicholaspaul: are you running xgl?
[10:31] <nicholaspaul> fyrestrtr:  wassat? I dont think i am ...
[10:31] <npster> Is ti in Synaptic ?
[10:31] <fyrestrtr> nicholaspaul: okay then, ignore what I said :)
[10:31] <nicholaspaul> lol fyrestrtr
[10:31] <fyrestrtr> npster: yes.
[10:31] <fyrestrtr> !info eclipse
[10:31] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In repository universe, is optional. Version 3.1.2-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 100 kB, installed size 368 kB
[10:31] <untung> Dodzey: i often need to force the monodevelop to quit.. it freeze
[10:31] <nicholaspaul> I just logout and hit the power button.
[10:31] <BobSongs> ubotu: You're cool, dude.
[10:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about You're cool, dude. - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:32] <fyrestrtr> !ubotu
[10:32] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[10:32] <untung> Dodzey: .neton is new to me
[10:32] <npster> This is for Jva ?
[10:32] <npster> *java
[10:32] <nicholaspaul> !xgl
[10:32] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:32] <sam_> when does edgy come out?
[10:32] <fyrestrtr> npster: yes, but you can use it to program in C++ (and many other languages)
[10:32] <Dodzey> untung: i meant ".net on windows" typo :p
[10:32] <fyrestrtr> sam_: september, I think.
[10:32] <npster> ok
[10:32] <starscream[2] > fyrestrtr> it completed in about 10 mins, very suspicious, I tried booting XP to see if it was ok and it needs a chkdsk
[10:32] <nicholaspaul> !edgy
[10:32] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[10:33] <starscream[2] > fyrestrtr>to be fair though I have only had the laptop a few months could that be why?
[10:33] <npster> It is too big, anything else ?
[10:33] <untung> Dodzey... np
[10:33] <MilesAttacca> fyrestrtr: Thanks, seems to be working. Now to play a video to find out. :)
[10:33] <fyrestrtr> starscream[2] : I don't know about that to be honest, never did the resize thing.
[10:33] <Dodzey> untung: all i can suggest, is if it does it when you do a specific action...submit a bug report
[10:34] <fyrestrtr> npster: you can use *anything* to write C++ apps. I use vim personally, I also have eclipse installed for other things.
[10:34] <starscream[2] > fyrestrtr> maybes it would take forever on a uber fragged hard drive but I have not removed anything since I got it, just installed stuff to it really, would like to think all the data is clumped in sequential order
[10:34] <fyrestrtr> starscream[2] : you would think that, but such is not always the case with NTFS
[10:35] <untung> Dodzey: it simply freeze when i compile... haven't figure out what the bug is... could it be the mono?
[10:35] <starscream[2] > fyrstrtr> ya, well fingers cross windows comes out of this CHKDSK ok and that it doesnt take long to set up my linux partitions, i was ready for it to take days! so if it safe to resize without a defrag?
[10:36] <fyrestrtr> untung: try in ##mono
[10:36] <avallach> I have a nvidia geforce4 mx 420 (nv17s) in my Dapper box - everything worked great with the nvidia driver for a long time but a couple weeks ago it started locking up on me (usually when a screen saver came on), i reverted to the nv driver & everything's fine...anybody know why nvidia stopped working?
[10:36] <Dodzey> untung: myne hasn't frozen when compiling, so im not sure
[10:36] <erik_> hi all , i have the libswt-gtk for apt but i dont seem to have libswt-gtk2.so in my/usr/lib or is it located elsewhere?
[10:36] <ArcAnge1> fyrestrtr: im logged on i tried the rescue option and taht way i was able to change my username and password
[10:37] <fyrestrtr> erik_: you aren't trying to debug that azureus bug, are you?
[10:37] <Deko> Ahoy. Does someone have an experience with ATI Radeon 9600 XT GPU under Ubuntu 6.06 LTS?
[10:37] <BobSongs> General Camera Question:     I have a Logitech Clicksmart 820 WebCam. Anybody in here been able to get it to work in Ubuntu as such?
[10:37] <fyrestrtr> !webcam
[10:37] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[10:37] <plhardy> <starscream[2] > AFAIK resizing partitions from linux triggers file system checks at windwos restart but it has always worked if windwos was well defragmented before.
[10:37] <erik_> fyrestrtr no i have more sense :) im compiling iRATE
[10:37] <BobSongs> fyrestrtr:      Ahh! So that's how it's done. Thanks!
[10:38] <ArcAnge1> fyrestrtr: which file you said i have to go to
[10:38] <fyrestrtr> erik_: making you irate, is it?
[10:38] <erik_> fyrestrtr a little lol
[10:38] <subpar> quick newb question: I'm trying to add a terminal command to an application launcher on the panel, but the terminal will dissapear, and the command won't run, is there a way I can keep it from doing that?
[10:38] <erik_> haha :)
[10:38] <Spy> how do i give full permissions to users using chmod? Atm i have chmod og+xrw /folder/
[10:39] <Dodzey> BobSongs: which reminds me, i should get myne out of the cupboard and get it set up, its not serving any purpose spying on my mess of computer parts
[10:39] <nicholaspaul> fyrestrtr: i did a sudo grub-install /dev/hdd1 but all i get is GRUB on the screen when i restart... ?
[10:39] <erik_> ive googled but seems libswt-gwt is a mine field lol
[10:39] <npster> Tell me another C++ complier ?
[10:39] <NickGarvey> g++
[10:39] <BobSongs> Dodzey:     lol! I've had a suspicion about what those things do by themselves. You may be on to something. ;-)
[10:39] <fyrestrtr> nicholaspaul: you need to install it on /dev/hdd (if that really is your drive, more than likely, its /dev/hda)
[10:39] <npster> What is a "daemon" ?
[10:40] <fyrestrtr> npster: a process that runs in the background, a server process.
[10:40] <NickGarvey> daemon*
[10:40] <Dodzey> BobSongs: the freakiest part being having it plugged in on windows...theres too many trojeans with the ability to tap into them
[10:40] <Dodzey> BobSongs: I can't imagine how many uncareful windows users are being spied on...heh
[10:40] <BobSongs> Dodzey:      Wha-a-a-a-a!!! You serious???
[10:40] <fyrestrtr> erik_: I think you can just download it from *anywhere* and copy it to *anywhere* and just pass the path to your app.
[10:40] <plhardy> npster: in some other unamed system it can be called a service.
[10:40] <unfun> Wich program can play all .wmv video files?
[10:41] <scott_> unfun, mplayer
[10:41] <Dodzey> BobSongs: yeah....it's possible...atleast in the unsecure world of windows it is
[10:41] <rorRuben> Hi friends
[10:41] <BobSongs> I need a broom. I'll be back.
[10:41] <npster> OK
[10:41] <scott_> unfun, unless it has drm
[10:41] <unfun> scot, I got mplayer but there is still some videos I can't play
[10:41] <erik_> fyrestrtr yeah im thinking about just doing that but it *should* be part of the lib ?
[10:41] <rorRuben> I've problems with a NTFS partition with Windows XP, when i try to reboot the pc and select win xp the pc is restarted, I can't entre in win xp or mount the partition too
[10:41] <subpar> unfun, look on their website.. they have other codecs on there
[10:41] <erik_> fyrestrtr ohh well thanks for the hint cheers :)
[10:41] <Dodzey> BobSongs: i wouldn't smash it to a pulp just yet...you're gonna use it in linux remember ;-)
[10:41] <fyrestrtr> erik_: I don't know to be honest, java is a funny thing.
[10:41] <scott_> unfun, you need the w32codecs pack
[10:42] <rorRuben> here is the output dor fdisk and fstab file => http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19796
[10:42] <unfun> how do i get w32codecs?
[10:42] <erik_> java = bad luck :p thanks 'gain  ... bye all
[10:42] <fyrestrtr> !codecs
[10:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:42] <perl_cont> ??
[10:42] <BobSongs> Dodzey:      Good grief! I realize a PC can become a zombie with the right deposit from a trojan. But this ...
[10:42] <subpar> quick newb question: I'm trying to add a terminal command to an application launcher on the panel, but the terminal will dissapear, and the command won't run, is there a way I can keep it from doing that?
[10:42] <nicholaspaul> fyrestrtr: am i going to run into problems when i reorganise the drives ie. the old master gets removed and the new one gets plugged in as Primary Master?
[10:42] <Dodzey> BobSongs: ill try and find an article on it
[10:42] <nicholaspaul> (sorry to be sucha pain..)
[10:43] <fyrestrtr> nicholaspaul: to be honest, you should not -- beyond the fact that if you were auto-mounting your old master, then it would not mount properly, but that is a minor thing.
[10:43] <sam_> ping
[10:43] <BobSongs> Dodzey:      So, an exclamation mark before a topic rouses ol' ubotu from sleep to put forth a message, eh.
[10:43] <nicholaspaul> fyrestrtr: oh ok.
[10:44] <fyrestrtr> subpar: does the command run normally? I mean, is it erroring out?
[10:44] <BobSongs> !harddrive
[10:44] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[10:44] <Dodzey> BobSongs: yeah, like...
[10:44] <Dodzey> !xgl
[10:44] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:44] <subpar> fyrestrtr:  no, what I'm specifically trying to do is run the sleep program to set an alarm, and it would be easier to press a button then type it out every time
[10:44] <subpar> fyrestrtr: but when I press the panel icon, it'll run it, then close the terminal and the program
[10:44] <Dodzey> BobSongs: we should stop messing with the channel, we'll get moaned at...hehe....what IRC lcient are you using?
[10:45] <fyrestrtr> subpar: ah, you might need to send it to the background (some-command &
[10:45] <subpar> fyrestrtr: so basically, I just need to keep the terminal from closing
[10:45] <subpar> oh
[10:45] <BobSongs> Dodzey: XChat-GNOME 0.11
[10:45] <subpar> fyrestrtr: what I have in there now is "sleep 8h 30m && xmms /home/subpar/Doc\!/Music/wakeup.m3u"
[10:45] <unfun> !mplayer
[10:45] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer
[10:45] <fyrestrtr> subpar: or use a detached screen, I believe its screen -d commandname
[10:45] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[10:45] <Dodzey> BobSongs: can you see the private message dialogs i've started with you?
[10:46] <subpar> fyrestrtr: I'll try that
[10:46] <unfun> !codecs
[10:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:46] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Yes: and I've been adding to it.
[10:46] <hussam> Will edgy be as 'extensively' supported as dapper currently is?
[10:46] <BobSongs> Dodzey: You can't see my text? :'(
[10:46] <rorRuben> Friends, I've problems with a NTFS partition with Windows XP, when i try to reboot the pc and select win xp the pc is restarted, I can't enter in win xp or mount the partition too
[10:46] <Dodzey> BobSongs: no....that's odd...
[10:46] <rorRuben> here is the output dor fdisk and fstab file => http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19796
[10:46] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Wahhhh
[10:46] <scott_> rorRuben, whats your grub menu entry to reboot into windows?
[10:47] <Dodzey> BobSongs: maybe it's xchat-gnome, i  always thought it was crap
[10:47] <subpar> fyrestrtr: it's still not running
[10:47] <sam_> I need a windows distro to run one program, my primary os is linux , what windows might you suggest?
[10:47] <BobSongs> Dodzey: :-\ I don't know what's wrong. Which IRC client are you on?
[10:47] <fyrestrtr> subpar: what did you try?
[10:47] <richard> does Ubuntu come with wireless router driver support
[10:47] <Dodzey> BobSongs: regular xchat
[10:47] <scott_> sam_,  windows distro? you can run some windows programs with wine
[10:47] <subpar> fyrestrtr: adding screen -d to the beginning of it
[10:47] <erik_> back again
[10:48] <ubuntu> vous parl franais
[10:48] <BobSongs> Dodzey: In the terminal?
[10:48] <nicholaspaul> fyrestrtr:  is there a config file, like menu.lst, that i can check to see if its going to start up when i switch the drives over?
[10:48] <sam_> windows version*
[10:48] <nicholaspaul> should menu.lst be identical on both?
[10:48] <richard> I have WUSB54G and WAG54G
[10:48] <erik_> how do i 'unpack' a rpm ?
[10:48] <rorRuben> scott: where i see these information of grub?
[10:48] <Dodzey> BobSongs: the gui one
[10:48] <ubuntu> i'm a pb with xmms,
[10:49] <fyrestrtr> subpar: try slapping a & at the end of it
[10:49] <BobSongs> I've installed a few IRC packages this morning. I could try another: I've got ... XChat...
[10:49] <ubuntu> it's disparate !!
[10:49] <ubuntu> what is the sequence touch to not hiden it ?
[10:49] <BobSongs> Let me get off this thing and try that one. brb
[10:49] <catoblepa> BobSongs: right choice!
[10:49] <npster> how do I get GCC, it isn't in synaptic ?
[10:49] <scott_> rorRuben, gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:49] <fyrestrtr> npster: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:49] <SonicChao> npster: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:50] <subpar> fyrestrtr: nah, it still closes... all I would really need to do is keep it from closing the terminal
[10:50] <hchaudh1_> hey, anyone else seeing anti-aliasing problems when you move windows, esp wobbly windows, after the cgwd updates in the past couple of days
[10:50] <fyrestrtr> subpar: it doesn't matter if it closes the term or not.
[10:50] <SonicChao> fyrestrtr: >.> Beat me to it.
[10:50] <scott_> subpar, it closes the terminal as it has finished the command. be it via error or not
[10:50] <fyrestrtr> subpar: as long as the process it running, you don't need to worry about it.
[10:50] <fyrestrtr> hchaudh1_: #xgl
[10:50] <subpar> fyrestrtr: but when it closes the terminal, it terminates the process
[10:50] <hchaudh1_> what?
[10:51] <fyrestrtr> hchaudh1_: take your question to #xgl
[10:51] <hchaudh1_> ok thx
[10:51] <subpar> fyrestrtr: the whole thing is, it's setting an alarm to play an m3u playlist in 8 hours and 30 minutes
[10:51] <scott_> set it in cron instead?
[10:51] <subpar> fyrestrtr: if worse comes to worst, I can just type it in everyday
[10:51] <fyrestrtr> subpar: use the cron
[10:51] <scott_> (i dont know how though)
[10:51] <subpar> scott_: but I don't go to sleep every day :)
[10:51] <dave> anyone know the default CUPS password?
[10:51] <subpar> at the same time
[10:51] <subpar> it's no biggy
[10:51] <fyrestrtr> dave: why?
[10:51] <subpar> I can just type it in if I need to
[10:51] <scott_> :)
[10:51] <rorRuben> scott: here is the output for menu.lst => http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19829
[10:51] <dave> what do you mean why
[10:52] <dave> I want to add a printer ja
[10:52] <scott_> rorRuben, i will take a look
[10:52] <BobSongs> Dodzey,
[10:52] <subpar> it would just be so much easier if I could press an icon
[10:52] <fyrestrtr> subpar: when you use screen -d, it should work. Check ps -- if it shows the process.
[10:52] <Dodzey> BobSongs: yeah...?
[10:52] <BobSongs> Dodzey, you there?
[10:52] <rorRuben> scot: thank's ;)
[10:52] <BobSongs> We've done it!!!
[10:52] <fyrestrtr> subpar: have you tried creating a desktop icon for it?
[10:52] <Dodzey> BobSongs: done what?
[10:53] <subpar> it would be "Create launcher" right?
[10:53] <scott_> rorRuben, is the ntfs partition the one winxp is installed in (as i see you have fat partitions too)
[10:53] <fyrestrtr> subpar: no
[10:53] <BobSongs> We've connected using a different client.
[10:53] <dave> has anyone installed a printer b4 and run into a username and password box in CUPS
[10:53] <nicholaspaul> fyrestrtr: o
[10:53] <scott_> rorRuben, also what error do you get when selecting winxp from the grub menu when trying to boot into it?
[10:53] <rorRuben> scott: yes
[10:53] <Dodzey> BobSongs: ohh...much better huh
[10:53] <subpar> would I create is a document then, or what?
[10:53] <nicholaspaul> ,fyrestrtr i'm still getting nothing but the word GRUB on the screen...
[10:53] <Dodzey> BobSongs: is pm working?
[10:53] <BobSongs> Nope.
[10:54] <rorRuben> scott: the pc going to rebbot
[10:54] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Nope.
[10:54] <BobSongs> Dang!
[10:54] <roostishaw> is anyone in here running drupal on ubuntu server? how is it? is it good for a photo gallery mabey?
[10:54] <Dodzey> BobSongs: wierd, i was talking to someone yesterday using it, so it can't be hear
[10:54] <Dodzey> here*
[10:54] <scott_> rorRuben, so you dont get any error message about not finding it or anything?
[10:54] <BobSongs> Dodzey, do I have to have some kind of setting change?
[10:55] <Dodzey> BobSongs: i haven't done anything, all ive done is change the server for my freenode password
[10:55] <Hellavator> does anyone know what package I need to install for this?
[10:55] <Hellavator> checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[10:55] <BobSongs> Dodzey, Hmm. Strange.
[10:56] <EpP> hey how do i get ubuntus kernel source?
[10:56] <Nickgarvey> EpP, sudo apt-get install linux-source-`uname -r`
[10:56] <rorRuben> scott: when i try to mount the ntfs partition, here is the error => http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19831
[10:56] <Dodzey> BobSongs try '/msg Dodzey <message>'
[10:57] <BobSongs> Dodzey, kk
[10:57] <EpP> Nickgarvey, whats uname?
[10:57] <scott_> rorRuben, im afraid i dont speak (spanish is it?)
[10:57] <rorRuben> scott: yes, sorry
[10:57] <Nickgarvey> EpP, thats your kernel version, `uname -r` will put your kernel version into the command so you don't need to copy and paste
[10:57] <BobSongs> Dodzey, On the left I see 'Dodzey' under '#ubuntu'. /msg send a message there.
[10:57] <EpP> ok ok
[10:58] <Dodzey> BobSongs: I didn't get it, its messed up
[10:58] <EpP> Nickgarvey, it says Couldn't find package linux-source-2.6.15-23-powerpc
[10:58] <BobSongs> Dodzey, :(
[10:59] <rorRuben> scott: here is in us => http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19832
[10:59] <scott_> rorRuben, will take a look
[10:59] <Nickgarvey> EpP, sudo apt-get install linux-source
[11:00] <Nickgarvey> EpP, try that then
[11:00] <rorRuben> scott: thanks
[11:00] <docko> if i run a php script from shell using php5-cli i get this Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect()... if i run that script from browser, it works correctly. and scripts without mysql run in shell... can anyone help?
[11:00] <scott_> rorRuben, can you try and mount it, then straight after type in dmesg and pastebin what it says?
[11:00] <EpP> k done thz
[11:00] <EpP> Nickgarvey, thx done
[11:01] <Dodzey> brb
[11:02] <Anti-Tedd> Hi. I'm on ubuntu and dist-upgrading getting only about 10kb/s. I'm on my wireless laptop on a cable connection, it shouldn't be going this slow...can someone help me?
[11:02] <Anti-Tedd> Is there a port I need toopen?
[11:02] <Seveas> !reposdown > Anti-Tedd
[11:03] <rorRuben> scott: hre is the output => http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19833
[11:03] <BobSongs> Dodzey, welcome back.
[11:03] <unfun> wich mplayer codecs can play wmv and hwrw do I find them?
[11:03] <unfun> !codecs
[11:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:03] <Seveas> unfun, w32codecs -- seveas.theplayboymansion.net/seveas
[11:03] <Dodzey> BobSongs: thought reopening xchat might solve it...
[11:03] <Anti-Tedd> Seveas: So it isn't me?
[11:04] <Seveas> Anti-Tedd, probably not
[11:04] <Anti-Tedd> phew.
[11:04] <Anti-Tedd> 'cause i'm on a cable connection. I thoguht maybe a port had to be opened.
[11:04] <unfun> sevas could you link me to the exact page?
[11:04] <farous> i am interested in knowing who to contact regarding the local language support to ask him how come the arabic and hebrew support are both supported by the same channel  and documentation though they are totally diff languages ?
[11:04] <Anti-Tedd> Next-question...
[11:05] <BobSongs> Dodzey, Seems when I send a message to you I get >Dodzey< This is a test.
[11:05] <joseph> Hello. Whenever I try to access my CD Rom drive I get this error: Could not enter folder /media/cdrom0, can anyone help me?
[11:05] <Anti-Tedd> What happens if I close terminal about 78% into dist-upgrade?
[11:05] <farous> and by the way the link is only for hebrew support no arabic support is there
[11:05] <npster> Can I use C++ for writing OSs ?
[11:05] <npster> like C ?
[11:05] <farous> http://www.ubuntu.com/support/local
[11:05] <Seveas> npster, sure
[11:05] <bimberi> Anti-Tedd, that's fine.  it will resume from where it left off when you next run it
[11:05] <unfun> How do I know if I'm using breezy or daper?
[11:05] <bimberi> !version > unfun
[11:05] <shiv> which application in linux will open .chm files
[11:05] <npster> u can do that with C++ ?
[11:05] <agliodbs> where can I get help setting up ubuntu on a server?
[11:05] <Anti-Tedd> bimberi, are you sure? Even if I shut the machine down?
[11:06] <unfun> !version
[11:06] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[11:06] <Hellavator> can anyone help me with this?   No package 'libxml-2.0' found
[11:06] <Hellavator> Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
[11:06] <Hellavator> installed software in a non-standard prefix.
[11:06] <Nickgarvey> agliodbs, what do you need? we might be able to help you out
[11:06] <joseph> Hello. Whenever I try to access my CD Rom drive I get this error: Could not enter folder /media/cdrom0, can anyone help me?
[11:06] <DarkerAudit> I'm having trouble with GNOME accepting changes I make to the Applications font. I started with Kubuntu before I added GNOME. What's causing the conflict?
[11:06] <bimberi> Anti-Tedd, yes, i've done it many times - the files being downloaded are cached, even the partially downloaded ones
[11:06] <agliodbs> Nickgarvey: I tried partitioning from the server CD yesterday
[11:06] <Anti-Tedd> bimberi, thanks...i have to get a website done XD
[11:06] <Anti-Tedd> thanks.
[11:06] <scott_> rorRuben, edit your fstab (after backing it up of course ;)) and change the windows (ntfs) parition line to: /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 ntfs nls=utf8,umask=0222 0 0
[11:06] <Anti-Tedd> Later.
[11:06] <agliodbs> setting up the whole filesystem on a RAID-1
[11:06] <bimberi> Anti-Tedd, np
[11:06] <agliodbs> and now the machine won't boot
[11:06] <npster> Is motor good as a C++ complier ?
[11:07] <scott_> rorRuben, then try and mount it again
[11:07] <DarkerAudit> A straight install of Ubuntu on another machine that suffered the same issue no longer has the problem
[11:07] <Nickgarvey> agliodbs, eek.. I know nothing about RAID
[11:07] <Dodzey> BobSongs: hmmm....somethings up with IRC
[11:07] <agliodbs> yeah, I tried here yesteday too
[11:07] <EpP> Hey i have a 802.11b Airport, does kismet work with it?
[11:07] <TheGateKeeper> bimberi: intersting I though stopping an upgrade would break it
[11:07] <BobSongs> Dodzey, I see your text coming thru loud and clear.
[11:07] <agliodbs> apparently nobody on this channel does
[11:07] <joseph> I tried searching for my problem, and I found nothing. :\
[11:07] <spiderworm> !vmware
[11:07] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[11:07] <BobSongs> Dodzey, Just send links and stuff to me: It's coming thru. You just can't see what I'm sending.
[11:07] <bimberi> TheGateKeeper: stopping it during the downloading phase is ok
[11:07] <Dodzey> BobSongs: but you can't message back? thats odd
[11:08] <scott_> joseph, mount the cdrom
[11:08] <joseph> scott_ I tried
[11:08] <bimberi> TheGateKeeper: during the installation phase would be a different matter
[11:08] <DarkerAudit> BobSongs: I see ya fine here :)
[11:08] <BobSongs> Dodzey, Maybe I need to re-install Ubuntu. *snicker*
[11:08] <joseph> scott_ Whenever I try to access it, it gives me that error.
[11:08] <TheGateKeeper> bimberi: that figures :-) one to remember
[11:08] <scott_> joseph, sudo mount /media/cdrom0
[11:08] <bimberi> TheGateKeeper: :)
[11:08] <BobSongs> DarkAudit, Dodzey and I are trying to set up a private chat. I can see all his text... but he cannot see mine. Let me try sending you a private message. Tell me if it works.
[11:09] <joseph> scott_ It's already mounted
[11:09] <agliodbs> as far as I can tell, the ubuntu RAID tool is fundamentally broken, or at least antique (i.e. you can't boot from RAID under ubuntu)
[11:09] <scott_> joseph, unmount and remount
[11:09] <BobSongs> DarkAudit, It's sent.
[11:09] <BobSongs> Dodzey, Link received loud and clear.
[11:09] <wubrgamer> hey guys
[11:10] <joseph> scott_ It says it's write-protected, mounting read only.
[11:10] <BobSongs> DarkAudit, Nothing came thru?
[11:10] <wubrgamer> i'm trying to get my ati drivers working, but not from source or anything, just trying to USE the ati drivers that are in the restricted-modules package........
[11:10] <scott_> joseph, thats fine, it should do
[11:10] <joseph> scott_ Same error, also.
[11:10] <bimberi> BobSongs: you need to be identified to /msg on Freenode
[11:10] <farous> i am interested in knowing who to contact regarding the local language support to ask him how come the arabic and hebrew support are both supported by the same channel  and documentation though they are totally diff languages ? the link on  http://www.ubuntu.com/support/local for arabic support links to a hebrew support wiki. If help is required to translate the documentation to arabic i will be willing to do it. I need to know what to do or wh
[11:10] <rorRuben> scott: the same error again
[11:10] <Seveas> farous, search for locoteam on wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:10] <nightw> how can i change the charset of filesystem?(i have a resier4 partition from my previous linux and it has wrong characters in some words)
[11:10] <BobSongs> bimberi, Okie dokie. Anything in particular I need to do to achieve this?
[11:11] <DarkerAudit> BobSongs: luckily I'm DarkAudit on another machine... but neither got the PM
[11:11] <TheGateKeeper> Seveas: what is the difference between your repos and the PLF ones, for instance is your w32codecs more up to date?
[11:11] <Dodzey> BobSongs: ill help you with registering
[11:11] <BobSongs> DarkAudit, Many thanks.
[11:11] <scott_> rorRuben, from the looks of your dmesg, the ntfs partition looks damaged/needing some sort of windows repair, it bails out after trying to mount and says it doesnt try to recover, now im not sure how to make it try and recover etc, sorry, have you searched/posted on the forums?
[11:11] <BobSongs> Dodzey, Many thanks. Noobie here. ;-)
[11:11] <bimberi> BobSongs: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[11:11] <Dodzey> !register > BobSongs
[11:11] <joseph> scott_ Could it be the permissions?
[11:12] <DarkerAudit> did that last big update fix the WPA password issue? I only had to make a keyring password instead of my entire WPA string afterward
[11:12] <scott_> joseph, try sudo mount /dev/cdrom
[11:12] <farous> Seveas: there is no local team for any arabic country. I would like your help to correct the http://www.ubuntu.com/support/local. As the link do not direct to an arabic wiki it should just say hebrew support
[11:12] <joseph> scott_ It's already mounted.
[11:13] <BobSongs> Dodzey, Reading up on it now. brb
[11:13] <scott_> can you browse to /dev/cdrom?
[11:13] <farous> Seveas: and i will search how i can contibute on the localteams thanx for the link
[11:13] <Seveas> farous, I know there is a Saudi Arabian team
[11:13] <unfun> How do I get w32codecs???
[11:13] <Seveas> !w32codecs > unfun check your pm
[11:14] <dapet> Anyone have experiense with installing, netgear WG111v2?
[11:14] <joseph> scott_ Sorry, wasn't paying attention.
[11:14] <scott_> !codecs
[11:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:14] <farous> Seveas: strange it is not on the list at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamList
[11:14] <rorRuben> scott: then i try reinstall the winxp, but how i can reinstall grub after?
[11:14] <unfun> yeah but I new to ubuntu I just want to know where the exact file is
[11:14] <joseph> scott_ It's asking me what to open it with.
[11:15] <Seveas> farous, ompaul recently helped them with their IRC channel so there is a team ;)
[11:15] <bimberi> Seveas: ooh, we can write extra stuff after the nick in that syntax? nice
[11:15] <farous> Seveas: perhaps the list need to be updated
[11:15] <Seveas> farous, they should do so themselves
[11:15] <catchme> unfun perhaps you'll try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#w32codecs
[11:16] <scott_> rorRuben, if you reinstall xp you will haver to make sure not to overwrite your linux partitions etc, once windows is installed then follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:16] <farous> Seveas: should i wait for ompaul to know the irc channel name so I contact them
[11:16] <Seveas> farous, #ubuntu-sa (all locoteam channels are required to use #ubuntu-CC
[11:16] <scott_> rorRuben, but i would advise instead of reinstalling windows
[11:16] <farous> Seveas: thanx a lot for your help
[11:17] <farous> much appreciated
[11:17] <scott_> rorRuben, boot up windows cd, goto recovery console, type in fixmbr, which will then auto boot windows, then follow the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:17] <agliodbs> nobody here knows anything about setting up ubuntu on RAID-1?
[11:17] <EpP> what does Airport 802.11b use? Madwifi?
[11:17] <Seveas> EpP, depends on whether it's airport or airport extreme
[11:18] <scott_> joseph, im not sure what you problem is then, since ubuntu should auto mountm your cdroms etc when you put a cd in
[11:18] <djk_> is there a tool to detect errors on a harddrive?
[11:18] <Seveas> !smart
[11:18] <ubotu> smart is another meta-package manager available for Ubuntu. It's quite stable, uses APT's repositories, can handle mirrors/multiple-connections, and is supposed to make Ubuntu BiArch-compatible for Edgy. See http://labix.org/smart and https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SmartPackageManager
[11:18] <Seveas> hmm
[11:18] <joseph> scott_ I'm using Kubuntu, but it does it too, I believe.
[11:18] <Seveas> djk_, apt-get install smartmontools
[11:18] <Seveas> !search smart
[11:18] <ubotu> Found: smartphone, boot, smart
[11:18] <joseph> scott_ I usually do it manually, though.
[11:18] <djk_> thanks
[11:18] <EpP> Seveas, its airport 802.11b so its airport original
[11:19] <scott_> joseph, have you tried restarting the session (logging out then in) or restarting your pc, kde used to freak out on me like that until i restarted then would be fine again for a bit
[11:19] <rorRuben> scott: thanks man i try it
[11:19] <scott_> rorRuben, no problem, hope everything works out for you and sorry i couldnt be any more helpful
[11:19] <catchme> how can I change the own of an file if sudo chown doesn't work?
[11:20] <joseph> scott_ Yes, I just restarted.
[11:20] <unfun> sevas thanks for your help
[11:20] <joseph> :(
[11:20] <scott_> joseph, then sorry but i dont know, i will search ubuntu forums quickly for you though
[11:20] <bimberi> catchme: any error?
[11:20] <linuxd00d> urgh WYSIWYG blows
[11:20] <joseph> scott_ I already tried. :(
[11:20] <avallach> I have a nvidia geforce4 mx 420 (nv17s) in my Dapper box - everything worked great with the nvidia driver for a long time but a couple weeks ago it started locking up (usually when a screensaver came on), i reverted to the nv driver & no lockups...anybody know why nvidia stopped working?
[11:20] <catchme> yes error read only file
[11:21] <dapet> I am new to IRC (Xchat) how do I change to the australian server?
[11:21] <bimberi> catchme: what does 'lsattr <file>' output?
[11:22] <rio_> dapet, irc.freenode.net should connect you to your local server
[11:22] <EpP> Seveas, its airport 802.11b so its airport original
[11:22] <rio_> dapet, otherwise, click trhe Xhcat menu, server list, choose freenode, edit, and add the austrailian server
[11:22] <Seveas> EpP, check lspci -- i though it was prism but am not sure
[11:22] <Hellavator> does anyone know why the repos are so slow today?
[11:23] <dapet> rio: I don't need the local server, but i have to meet a person in the australian server, how do I do that?
[11:23] <Hellavator> im getting 10~20kb/s
[11:23] <dapet> rio: thx :D
[11:23] <plhardy> starscream[2] : Well kubuntu install on a USB hdd doesn't work there are at least three successive bugs, and that with a boot on USB DISK working from bios
[11:24] <docko> if i run a php script from shell using php5-cli i get this Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect()... if i run that script from browser, it works correctly. and scripts without mysql run in shell... can anyone help?
[11:24] <dapet> Anyone knows what the australian server is named?
[11:24] <Seveas> dapet, au.archive.ubuntu.com
[11:24] <catchme> bimberi it outputs "lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on MP3/Z"
[11:24] <dapet> <Seveas:
[11:25] <dapet> Seveas: How do I connect then?
[11:25] <EpP> how do i make sshd run?
[11:25] <catchme> bimberi the file is writen on en external hdd
[11:25] <Seveas> epinephrine, /etc/init.d/ssh start
[11:25] <epinephrine> :P
[11:25] <bimberi> catchme: what type of filesystem?
[11:26] <catchme> bimberi ntfs
[11:26] <linuxd00d> !ntfs
[11:26] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[11:26] <catchme> bimberi but I've manage to mount it in Suse
[11:26] <bimberi> catchme: ah, lsattr won't work then and ntfs support is read only
[11:26] <nomin> isn't google earth supposed to be in the ubuntu repositories?
[11:26] <Seveas> nomin, no
[11:26] <dapet> How do I connect to the australian IRC server?
[11:27] <ompaul> farous evening
[11:27] <nicholaspaul> I'm trying to install GRUB from a Warty Live CD onto a Dapper drive. Sudo grub-install /dev/hda gives me 'Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.' how can i install grub?
[11:27] <bimberi> ubotu tell catchme about fuse
[11:27] <nomin> Seveas: do you know if google earth has been made for ubuntu?
[11:27] <nomin> !google
[11:27] <ubotu> google is a very popular search engine, http://www.google.com
[11:27] <Seveas> nomin, the installer from earth.google.com works fine
[11:27] <nomin> !google earth
[11:27] <ubotu> Google Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. To download it see http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html
[11:27] <inono> How do I get vim 7 for Ubuntu ?
[11:27] <ompaul> Seveas, talk about bad timing
[11:27] <catchme> bimberi I've mot sure if the file is read only becaus if thougt having change it
[11:27] <linuxd00d> nomin: you could just use wine or use google maps
[11:27] <Seveas> inono, grab it from my repos /msg ubotu seveas
[11:27] <nomin> cool
[11:27] <ompaul> I have been back a few minutes
[11:28] <nicholaspaul> hey Seveas are you able to help me install grub? tis driving me nuts :)
[11:28] <nomin> linuxd00d: wine is too hard for me to use.  google earth is a lot cooler than google maps.
[11:28] <joseph> scott_ I will BRB, going to try restarting again. If I don't come back, it works.
[11:28] <inono> Seveas, thx
[11:28] <EpP> Seveas, For kismet the driver is prism2_openbsd. Would this be correct?
[11:28] <jared> Hey, I installed breezy and want to upgrade to dapper. Do i have to do the update that were requested right after i started my new installtiont he first time?
[11:28] <bimberi> catchme: type 'mount' and see if that filesystem has "ro" or "rw" next to it
[11:29] <nicholaspaul> jared: no you can go straight to Dapper.
[11:29] <EpP> Seveas, For kismet the driver is prism2_openbsd. Would this be correct?
[11:29] <nicholaspaul> Seveas.. do you have a minute?
[11:29] <bimberi> dapet: try au.freenode net (guessing though)
[11:29] <djk_> my /home isn't writeable anymore after a hdd-crash, how do i fix that?
[11:29] <Dodzey> is there anyway i can run blender on one screen of my xinerama setup? ohh, and it's slow when compiz is running but nonXgl doesn't seem to hve any affect
[11:29] <dapet> bimberi: I am a noob, how do i do that?
[11:30] <catchme> bimbery mount outputed "/dev/sdb1 on /media/External Disk-1 type ntfs (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,sync)"
[11:30] <starscream[2] > hi there folks, if hd0,1 is hda2 then is hda 1 hd0,0?
[11:30] <bimberi> dapet: configure your irc client to point to au.freenode.net for the Freenode network.
[11:30] <Thanatos_> I just upgraded to Dapper, and now, when I boot up, it runs gdm and automatically logs me in, but instead of a desktop, it is just a terminal window, any ideas (or links)?
[11:31] <inono> Seveas, no amd64 packages ?
[11:31] <dapet> bimberi: I have xchat
[11:31] <babysnakes> hi, if I set 'chmod u+s somedir' doesn't it mean that all files under 'somedir' will be owned by the user (no matter who created them)?
[11:31] <bimberi> dapet: btw i'm an aussie, and i don't bother doing it :)
[11:31] <Seveas> EpP, I don't think so... that appears to be for openbsd, not linux
[11:31] <hcr> starscream[2] , yes
[11:31] <Seveas> prism2 or prism54 should do it iirc
[11:31] <Seveas> starscream[2] , correct
[11:31] <starscream[2] > hcr> many thanks :)
[11:31] <Seveas> inono, breezy or dapper?
[11:31] <adrian> HOLA
[11:31] <Seveas> !es
[11:31] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:31] <inono> Seveas, dapper
[11:31] <EpP> Seveas, so no support for my airport card in kismet?
[11:31] <dapet> bimberi: he he... Okay... But I have to meet someone in there :(
[11:31] <Seveas> inono, I'll build them, hang on
[11:32] <inono> Seveas, ok thanks :)
[11:32] <inono> Seveas, do I need to use your personal mirror then?
[11:32] <Seveas> inono, yes
[11:32] <inono> ok
[11:32] <adrian> HI
[11:32] <Seveas> i'll poke you when they're there
[11:33] <inono> ok
[11:33] <jared> would the two letter country code for the us be US?
[11:33] <Seveas> jared, correct
[11:33] <Eagle3> yep
[11:33] <Hellavator> yes it would
[11:33] <dapet> anyone KNOWS how to connect to the austrailian IRC server, through Xchat, I am a noob so beware ;)
[11:33] <jared> thankyou
[11:33] <bimberi> dapet: Freenode is all one network, any australian server is part of it.  that 'someone' should be here.
[11:34] <jared> ./server ircservername bimberi i believe
[11:34] <jared> just like any other
[11:34] <bimberi> dapet: do you know their nick?  try typing: /whois nick
[11:34] <dapet> bimberi: Ohhh thx :D you are my Hero :D
[11:34] <bimberi> dapet: lol, no problem :)
[11:34] <adrian> Someone who wants to chat here?
[11:34] <dapet> About what?
[11:34] <sameer> hi guys
[11:34] <Seveas> inono, hmm, my amd64 buildd id dead it seems
[11:35] <bimberi> adrian: chat -> #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:35] <Seveas> !seen imbrandon
[11:35] <ubotu> imbrandon is on IRC right now!
[11:35] <inono> Seveas, ahhhhhh :O
[11:35] <sameer> i have problem with my external usb hdd
[11:35] <sameer> not even showing up with lsusb :(
[11:36] <dapet> matheiu: Are you the one I wrote to about the netgear wireless?
[11:36] <bimberi> sameer: unplug/replug make any difference?
[11:36] <sameer> nop
[11:36] <Seveas> inono, it's not hard to build it yourself
[11:36] <bimberi> sameer: :(
[11:36] <Seveas> inono, add a deb-src line for my repository to /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:36] <Seveas> and do this:
[11:36] <sameer> bimberi: any idea
[11:36] <Seveas> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:37] <Seveas> sudo apt-get build-dep vim
[11:37] <Seveas> apt-cache -b source vim
[11:37] <bimberi> sameer: no sorry (apart from bad or unrecognised hardware) :|
[11:37] <nicholaspaul> Ok, who knows how to mount an HD from a live CD?
[11:38] <sameer> where i can find any msg ?
[11:38] <sameer> nicholaspaul: will be the same :D
[11:38] <nicholaspaul> sameer: same as what?
[11:38] <inono> Seveas, http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/jQT82m62.html
[11:39] <EpP> How can i get my airport original to work in kismet?
[11:39] <sameer> mount /dev/hda_nuimber /mountpoint
[11:39] <djk_> how do i get a list of who has read/write access to which directory?
[11:39] <Seveas> inono, that's the wrong mirror, has only freenx
[11:39] <nicholaspaul> sameer: it keeps asking for a fs type
[11:39] <sameer> nicholaspaul: is it ntfs ??
[11:39] <Seveas> inono, and you should do sudo apt-get update after adding a correct mirror 
[11:39] <nicholaspaul> sameer: i think its ext, but it doesnt like that.
[11:40] <richy> i have some problem with nvidia driver ( graphic card)
[11:40] <inono> Failed to fetch http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/dapper-seveas/Release  Unable to find expected entry  list_of_sections/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[11:40] <richy> what is the path of linux kernel header???
[11:41] <richy> i have just intall the package but the software don't find the path
[11:41] <Seveas> inono, read the BIG BOLD NOTICE on the site... and you added a binary packages entry, not a sources entry...
[11:41] <inono> Seveas, sorry, http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/fNSDqG51.html
[11:41] <nicholaspaul> sameer:  sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda /mnt/tmp = wonf fs type bad option, bad superblock or too many mounted file systems.
[11:41] <inono> oh ok
[11:41] <inono> I am new to apt-get, would that be like universe multiverse ?
[11:41] <sameer> see how many mounts do u have
[11:42] <sameer> try fdisk -l /dev/hda_numb
[11:42] <nicholaspaul> oh right. sameer. It says its mounted on /mnt/hda1 - tanks!
[11:42] <inono> Seveas, which section would vim7 be in? extras? custom ?
[11:42] <wheels3572> Is Xubuntu Gnome?
[11:42] <jared> no its xcfe wheels3572
[11:42] <eleazar123> hey guys, i just installed ubuntu and when i rebooted to load ubuntu grub gave error 17 (even before grub finished loading), so i rebooted to the livecd and reinstalled grub, now i get grub error 22, it says 'no such partition' even though i know it's the right one! anyone have any ideas? :(
[11:42] <Seveas> inono, backports and all
[11:43] <bimberi> wheels3572: xfce
[11:43] <sparkleytone> eleazar123: what hard drive is ubuntu installed on?  are you dual booting?
[11:43] <wheels3572> jared, ok ty.  So I can remove tsclient then since it's for gnome and not xfce
[11:43] <micahcowan> Seveas, do you mind helping me wrt a problem I'm having with displaying  UTF-8 in vim?
[11:44] <Thanatos_> I just upgraded to Dapper, and now, when I boot up, it runs gdm and automatically logs me in, but instead of a desktop, it is just a terminal window, any ideas on how I can get it working again?
[11:44] <nomin> what do I need to do to install google earth.  I just downloaded GoogleEarthLinux.bin
[11:44] <nicholaspaul> sameer: i'm just trying to install grub on this thing.
[11:44] <eleazar123> sparkleytone, i am dual-booting with ubuntu and xp sp2, windows and ubuntu are installed on hd3, linux root is sdc4, and windows root is sdc1
[11:44] <wheels3572> what I wanna do is setup vnc on my systems to be able to connect to them
[11:44] <sameer> ah
[11:45] <nicholaspaul> sameer:  should grub be in /boot or / ?
[11:45] <sameer> in /boot
[11:45] <nicholaspaul> k sameerthx
[11:45] <sameer> np
[11:45] <sparkleytone> eleazar123: by 'installed on hd3', what do you mean if the root is on a different hd?
[11:46] <aTypical> nomin, make sure the .bin file is executable and then ./googleearth.bin (or whatever the name is).
[11:46] <sparkleytone> eleazar123: also...what do you mean by hd3...you mean hda3 ?
[11:46] <eleazar123> sparkleytone, sdc is hd3, it's just partitioned up, hd3 = 3rd harddrive according to linux
[11:46] <nicholaspaul> sameer:  it keeps saying '/dev/hda1 not found or not a block device'. After i type 'grub-install --root-direcotry=/boot /dev/hda1
[11:46] <nicholaspaul> its mounted as /mnt/hda1
[11:47] <nomin> aTypical: thanks.  It's just like installing realplayer.
[11:47] <fsniper> hello. any body having trouble with gnome-terminal tabs?
[11:47] <sparkleytone> eleazar123: what is hd0 ?
[11:48] <nomin> sweet!  I'm running google earth now.
[11:48] <fsniper> any tabs except the main terminal tab closes on returning a command for me
[11:48] <linuxd00d> nomin: are you using wine?
[11:48] <fsniper> any body has any information?
[11:49] <nomin> linuxd00d: no.  the linux installer is good enough.  just run "chmod a+x /path/to/GoogleEarthLinux.bin"
[11:49] <nomin> than run the installer
[11:49] <linuxd00d> sweet
[11:49] <linuxd00d> have fun
[11:49] <eleazar123> sparkleytone, hd0 (i think) is a 320gb sata drive, i ran fdisk -l and it's the first drive to be listed
[11:49] <sparkleytone> eleazar123: what kind of machine are you on/
[11:49] <sparkleytone> ?
[11:49] <Jack_Sparrow> HI all, I just installed Ubuntu on father in laws computer.  Didnt realize he didnt have a modem or boradband.  I grabbed a hardware external modem and put it on com1 serial port.  How do I get it recognized and set it up?
[11:50] <linuxd00d> jack_sparrow: what is it made by?
[11:50] <eleazar123> sparkleytone, i built it
[11:51] <sparkleytone> eleazar123: run grub-install /dev/sdc ... then reboot and make sure that the drive that is your sdc is chosen as the boot drive
[11:51] <Jack_Sparrow> airlink.  IT workes fine in Mepis and other distros if it is installed before the os..
[11:51] <eleazar123> sparkleytone, ok, thanks :) do i need to mount sdc before i run the command?
[11:52] <sparkleytone> eleazar123: ohhhhh...wait
[11:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Full hardware 56k modem...
[11:52] <nicholaspaul> Anyone have experience using 'grub' at the root terminal?
[11:52] <Jack_Sparrow> nicholaspaul: what is the problem
[11:52] <hou5ton> last month I put the latest Ubuntu on my laptop, and it refused to accept the proper screen resolution ... ATI 9700 .... SuSE 10.1 does fine with it ... has Ubuntu worked on this??
[11:53] <linuxd00d> jack_sparrow: have you tried autodecting it?
[11:53] <nicholaspaul> Jack_Sparrow:  when i type root (hda,3) it says 'selected disk does not exist'. I've tried every permutation of hda, hda1, etc...
[11:53] <inono> Seveas, ok i installed build-dep vim
[11:53] <nicholaspaul> i'm trying to install grub
[11:53] <Jack_Sparrow> linuxd00d: I cna reinstall Ub and be fine.  Just thought if it was easy I would fix the current install
[11:53] <sparkleytone> eleazar123: chicken/egg syndrome sorry...you need to mount sdc...then you need to 'mount -t bind /proc /path/to/sdcmount'...then you need to 'chroot /path/to/sdcmount /bin/bash'...then do a grub-install /dev/sdc and reboot
[11:53] <Jack_Sparrow> nicholaspaul: is this a dual boot system?
[11:53] <eleazar123> sparkleytone, oh wow lol, ok, i'll do that, thanks!
[11:53] <nicholaspaul> no, its a new drive that i copied the old system to. I'm upgrading to a bigger HD
[11:53] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: you need hd0,3
[11:54] <Jack_Sparrow> linuxd00d: How do I get it to autodetect it?
[11:54] <nicholaspaul> hdZERO, sparkleytone ?
[11:54] <sparkleytone> yes nicholaspaul
[11:54] <sparkleytone> but really...
[11:54] <linuxd00d> use the network settings in administration
[11:54] <Rambo3> and come back here when you get grub error 17 for installing on that partition
[11:54] <Jack_Sparrow> nicholaspaul: Did you install on the same partition as before?
[11:54] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: do a 'cat /boot/grub/device.map' and make sure that /dev/hda is seen as hd0
[11:54] <Jack_Sparrow> same swap drive as before
[11:54] <EpP> How can i get my airport original to work in kismet?
[11:55] <nicholaspaul> Jack_Sparrow: sparkleytone i just cp'd the old system to the new drive and have been told i jsut have to install GRUB.
[11:55] <Jack_Sparrow> nicholaspaul: How did you make the copy..?
[11:55] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: as long as you did cp -af or something similar, yeah should work
[11:55] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: or dd ;)
[11:56] <nicholaspaul> sparkleytone: yea i did, cp -afx / /new_drive
[11:56] <Jack_Sparrow> linuxd00d: How do I get it to Ub to try and autodetect the new modem?
[11:56] <eleazar123> sparkleytone, i did 'sudo mount -t bind /proc /tmp/test' and it says 'unknown filesystem type bing'
[11:56] <nicholaspaul> sparkleytone: so yea, hda is hd0
[11:56] <linuxd00d> ermm
[11:56] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: you could also do a 'dd bs=512 count=1 if=/dev/olddrive of=/dev/newdrive'
[11:57] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: that will copy the boot sector...then you just have to make sure the new drive is in the same 'place' as the old drive used to be and it should boot
[11:57] <linuxd00d> jack_sparrow: come to #linuxd00d
[11:57] <Jack_Sparrow> linuxd00d: Im not near that system now, so just a couple ideas to write down and try later would help, or just reinstall?
[11:57] <eleazar123> sparkleytone, it says 'unknown filesystem type 'bind'' sorry i mistyped it the first time
[11:57] <nicholaspaul> sparkleytone: whoa. Simple is good :) .... so now, root (hd0,3) gives me "Error21: selected disk does not exist"
[11:57] <linuxd00d> oh ok
[11:57] <sparkleytone> eleazar123: omg i'm sorry...losing my mind.  -o not -t
[11:58] <eleazar123> sparkleytone lol no prob!
[11:58] <jon_> when it says install from the source tree, what is the source tree?
[11:58] <EpP> how do i check freespace/
[11:58] <nicholaspaul> EpP:  type df
[11:58] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: just use the old grub configuration file
[11:58] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: revert to the way it was when it was copied
[11:58] <EpP> nicholaspaul, thx
[11:59] <sparkleytone> EpP: df -h is even better :)
[11:59] <nicholaspaul> EpP: np :)
[11:59] <EpP> sparkleytone, thx for that too
[11:59] <Jack_Sparrow> What does DF stand for?
[11:59] <linuxd00d> yeah, goto system-admin-network-modem now enable the connection then click on the modem tab and then click on Auto detect
[11:59] <eleazar123> sparkleytone, i ran chroot /path/to/sdcmount /bin/bash, it gave back 'chroot: cannot run command '/bin/bash': No such file or directory'
[11:59] <nicholaspaul> sparkleytone: by copying /boot over? i think i tried that...
[11:59] <nicholaspaul> Jack_Sparrow: its a command to check disk space. Dunno what it stands for tho...
[11:59] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: ya, but you didn't copy the bootsector before ;)
[12:00] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks, just thought I'd ask
[12:00] <sparkleytone> eleazar123: by /path/to/sdcmount, i mean wherever ubuntu put it...if you just did mount /dev/sdc3#, then its probably in /media/sdc#...