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asimoneelco: Is this a new user you added or the default user which got created during installation?12:08
eelcono it is my standard user account, Adebt asks for Su password but that should be my user password wright?12:09
asimoneelco: yes, right.12:10
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jottdek: the edgy patch seems to work...12:10
eelcoasimin: but it does not work!12:11
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jottdek: if you tell me a place where i should put the deb you can have it ;)12:12
dekwhere can i download it from then?12:12
dekisn't it free?12:12
asimoneelco: I guess you already checked if shift-lock is on.12:12
eelcoasimon: yes..........12:12
jottdek: sure.. you have a build environment? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/k/krusader/krusader_1.70.0-1ubuntu1.diff.gz12:13
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dekyou mean compiler?12:13
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jottdek: you need to chmod +x rules and add a entry in the version history12:13
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asimoneelco: does 'sudo whoami' accepts the passwd from the command line?12:13
jottdek: compiler + all dev packages you need (like kde*-dev stuff) + dpkg build environment...12:14
jottdek: but its actually straightforward ;)12:14
Admiral_Chicagoeveryone check out the main page of wikipedia12:14
dekwell if Kubuntu didn't install it then I dont have it :P12:14
Admiral_Chicagohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page12:14
dekbut I actually want to learn to compile the apps I use xD12:14
nickayhi. I have a problem when i am trying to acces to my usb disk. I get error "Could not enter folder /media/disk". There is anyone how can help me? Is problem with permissions?12:14
jottits all in the repository but you need to fetch it.. ;)12:14
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eelcoasimon: yes tried it and it works12:15
Admiral_Chicagonickay, the drive mounted?12:15
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nickayAdmiral_Chicago I am new with linux. How can mount it?12:16
KiDD420how do I install this java bin12:16
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dr_willis_!java12:16
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository12:16
asimoneelco: and does 'kdesu adept_manager' works from the command line?12:16
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hooded_robinwhat filesystem should i use? Ext2 or 3?12:16
diallomasalut  tous12:17
Admiral_Chicagoright click it, there may be an option12:17
Admiral_Chicagohooded_robin, I use ext312:17
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asimonhooded_robin: ext3 is almost always a better choice than ext2.12:17
Admiral_Chicagobut to be honest, I don't know the difference12:17
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hooded_robinasimon: thanks... i have partition magic and thats the only two options to choose for linux12:18
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KiDD420!java12:19
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository12:19
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KiDD420!multiverse12:19
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource12:19
eelcoasimon: no that does not work (failed to open device)12:19
asimoneelco: does it write which device?12:19
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eelcoasimon: 16612:20
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nickayAdmiral_Chicago in the moounting option of usb drive there is mountpoint "/media/disk" there isn't any other option about mounting12:20
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eelcoasimon: what does kdesu adept_manager?12:21
asimoneelco: it starts the adept package manager, it's same which happens if you choose 'Adept Manager' from the menu.12:22
ArkkisHello, I'm installing my first kubuntu on a brand new hdd of 320G and I'd like some advice on what partitions to have and how big..12:22
eelcoasimon: and does device 166 tell you any think?12:23
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Arkkisis there some article/tutorial/howto I should read about it, or could you guys help?12:23
_sledge_A recent adept upgrade screwed my sound. It's isn't owkring at all, but I can see all mixers etc. Applications print "alsa_get_mixer(): Attaching to mixer hw:0 failed: No such device" to the console. Any idea what might have happened?12:23
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asimoneelco: sorry, it doesn't say me much.12:24
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asimoneelco: Does this also happens if you try to start some other program, i.e. 'kdesu konsole'?12:24
Admiral_Chicagonickay, sorry i was on another desktop12:24
nickayis ok12:25
KiDD420ok12:25
diallomasalut  tous12:25
KiDD420I cant find the java package in adept with the universe enabled12:25
Admiral_ChicagoArkkis, I'd go with a partition like 275 Gb12:25
diallomaquelqu'un parle Franais s'il vous plait ?12:25
KiDD420how do I install this bin?12:25
Admiral_ChicagoI've saved my system a few time by installing a different linux distro in the freespace12:25
Admiral_Chicagodialloma, je parle un peut de francais12:26
ArkkisAdmiral_Chicago, I'm planning on installing windows on the drive at some point, and I think it'll take 30gigs or so (so, I have space to work with on the darn windows side)12:26
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diallomaok12:26
Admiral_ChicagoArkkis, best to do Windows before Linux...12:26
Arkkisdarn, the problem is, that I do not have the install medium just yet12:27
eelcoasimon: in rootshell both give now can not start X server12:27
nickayAdmiral_Chicago in the moounting option of usb drive there is mountpoint "/media/disk" there isn't any other option about mounting12:27
Arkkisfor windows that is12:27
KiDD420!java12:27
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository12:27
diallomaj'ai un problme de partitionnement de disque dur avec GParted sous kubuntu12:27
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Admiral_Chicagonickay, hmm,  check your /media folder12:28
Riddelldialloma: #kubuntu-fr pour francais12:28
asimoneelco: did you try this under a console under X (KDE)?12:28
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eelcoyes.... :(12:28
luke_Hey, if ive installed GDM, can i reinstall KDM?12:29
ArkkisAdmiral_Chicago, so, no /var /usr /tmp /etc needed? Just two partitions??12:29
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Arkkis:/12:30
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Admiral_ChicagoArkkis, use Qtparted in the live Cd and create a space of 275gb12:30
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Arkkisand?12:31
Admiral_Chicagofor the Linux install and have it formated as ext312:31
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Arkkisone big chunk?12:31
nickayAdmiral_Chicago it is locked. I get error "You do not have enough permissions to read file:///media/disk". I want to ask u if i change disk's permissions i will have problem to access it from windows?12:31
Kadranhello12:31
sledgelinux-image-2.6.15-26-k7 definitely breaks sound with via_82xx!12:31
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Admiral_Chicagonickay, wait, what is your set up now?12:32
asimoneelco: does it read 'can not _connect_' or 'can not start'?12:32
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Admiral_Chicagoare you on the Dapper install Cd or what12:32
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eelcoasimon: It suddenly works..... the adept program has accepted my user password12:34
asimoneelco: very fishy12:34
thompasledge: i had problem with k7 but now i am using ubuntu6412:34
sledgeasimon: <><12:34
eelcoasimon: yes. but thanks for you help12:34
asimoneelco: But it show once again: persistence pays off ;-)12:35
sledgethompa: how good is the mixed 64/32-bit environment support nowadays?12:35
thompai dont know12:35
thompai can do everything except real player just now12:35
sledgethompa: i'12:35
thompathis is an amd64 duo core12:36
sledgethompa: i'm running an amd64 laptop right now. I gave 64-bit ubuntu a spin about 3 months ago, but having to set up a chroot for 32-bit apps was too much of a hassle.12:36
thompai dont think cool and quiet is working12:36
sledgethompa: Then I'll give it a couple of months... :)12:37
thompawell now it got quiet, is the driver installed for this already12:37
nickayAdmiral_Chicago i login as root and is ok. Thanks for ur time12:37
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plugsumm how do i know what the root password is12:39
thompasledge: what are you using for web editing if any?12:39
thompaim just trying kimagemapper12:39
thompai mean imagemapeditor12:40
sledgethompa: web editing? I use gvim for almost all editing tasks.12:40
q__&*^%$%#$#@12:41
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thompacool12:41
sledgeq__: True dat.12:41
drwisniapl??12:42
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larson9999hmmm a streaming audio site a play on both linux and windows works in windows and in linux but in linux it stops after 10:40.12:47
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xxfrom poland is somebody12:47
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andy1My laptop tries to go to sleep about every 30 seconds whether i'm using it or not with kubuntu installed12:48
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Prinzhi people12:54
Prinz:D12:54
PrinzI need some help12:55
Prinzhow to play mp3 on amarok?12:55
Admiral_Chicago!mp312:55
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:55
Admiral_ChicagoPrinz, chexk that12:55
andy1hi Prinz...doesnt seem much going on in here although plenty of coming and going12:55
Admiral_Chicagocheck that*12:55
andy1i'm no expert but if i can help i will try12:55
Prinzi can play mp3 using xmms12:56
Admiral_Chicagopretty much, you have to enable mulitverse and universe, and install those packages12:56
Admiral_ChicagoPrinz, get that?12:56
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Prinzi'll try12:57
andy1i was gonna say that12:58
andy1lol12:58
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intelikeygrub error 2101:00
Prinzo.O01:00
intelikeyi found out why grub-install was erroring out.   kernel version.01:01
intelikeyso i got it installed.  now it just wont boot.   ;/01:01
intelikeyor was it error #17   hehhe i don't remember.01:02
Admiral_ChicagoPrinz, I'm Afk, but message me if you need me01:02
Prinzokz01:03
intelikeybut that's not why im here.    any sujestions on how to work around this error?   --> The PPP daemon has died: No root priv error (exit code = 3)01:03
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StreetSmartHey everyone. Im just wondering, after installing firefox with apt-get how come the icon didnt apear in my start menu under internet?01:03
StreetSmartAnd how do I get it there?01:04
PrinzAdmiral_Chicago: "Package libxine-extracodecs is not available"01:04
intelikeyi'd kinda like to exec wvdial as user rather than having to enable root.01:04
Prinz:|01:04
Admiral_ChicagoPrinz, did you enable universe/multiverse?01:04
PrinzAdmiral_Chicago: yes01:05
Admiral_Chicagohmm, let me see01:05
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intelikeyStreetSmart why use ff ?   konq is the browser ++     but at any rate you can start it from the command line or make a launcher on the desktop or panel or even manually add it to the menu.01:06
andy1i did it before...installed firefox...when i rebooted the shortcut was in the start menu01:06
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intelikeyupdate-menus   might help.01:06
Admiral_ChicagoPrinz, let me check it out on my own computer.01:07
intelikeyanyone have any clue on the pppd issue ?01:08
Admiral_Chicagosudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs worked fine for me01:08
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Prinz:(01:09
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Prinzyour kernel is 2.6.15-26-386 ?01:10
intelikeyPrinz who you asking ?01:10
PrinzAdmiral_Chicago01:10
intelikeyk01:10
StreetSmartintelikey: that command update-menus did not work.01:10
Admiral_Chicago2.6.15-26-68601:11
Prinzhmm01:11
intelikeyStreetSmart did you run it as root ?01:11
intelikeyand StreetSmart i only said it 'might' help....  no promice there.01:11
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StreetSmartintelikey: i did run as root. lol i dont think the command even exists.01:12
Admiral_Chicagotry it in adept01:13
Admiral_Chicagoor copy and paste my command and run that01:13
PrinzAdmiral_Chicago: I'm downloading 2.6.15-26-68601:13
Admiral_Chicagofor some reason, I think you may have made a mistake01:13
Admiral_ChicagoPrinz, I ran libxine-extracodecs on an older kernel01:14
intelikeyman update-menus01:14
Prinzokz... but my pc is a p4... and is running i386 kernel01:14
asimonStreetSmart: Firefox appears in the menu, but just the icon is missing? Or is there no firefox at all in the menu?01:14
Prinzrs01:14
intelikeyi think it's default on all *buntu systems.01:14
intelikeybut hey i'm always wrong.  just ask anyone that disagrees with me  :)01:15
Admiral_Chicagomy computer is a P401:16
StreetSmartasimon: firefox did not appear in the menu at all.01:16
PrinzAdmiral_Chicago: xine-extracodecs don't appear on adept01:16
linuxgooberhow do i check my fps with glxgears?01:16
StreetSmartasimon: I have not restarted but thats why im asking. I dont want to restart.01:16
Admiral_Chicagopaste your sources.list please01:17
Prinzokz01:17
asimonStreetSmart: Try restarting just the panel, i.e. ALT-F2 and enter 'dcop kicker kicker restart'01:17
Admiral_Chicago!paste01:17
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:17
gnomefreaklinuxgoober: glxgears --printfps01:17
gnomefreakor its -printfps cant remember01:17
Prinzhehehe01:18
StreetSmartasimon: Did not appear in the menu.01:18
yamalglxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark   also works :)01:18
misfitdoes anyone know if there is a way to "grep" through files using fish in konqueror?01:18
linuxgoobernone of those work gnomefreak :-/01:18
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asimonStreetSmart: Strange01:19
intelikeyStreetSmart "I dont want to restart."   good this is not M$ reboot windows.   just logout and login.  that will reset xorg.01:19
PrinzAdmiral_Chicago: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1983901:19
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gnomefreaklinuxgoober: glxgears -printfps01:19
StreetSmartasimon: :( I dont want to restart.... itll mess up my uptime!01:19
StreetSmartasimon: were is the executable for firefox or any other program i install?01:19
linuxgooberk01:19
Admiral_ChicagoPrinz, okay let me check it out01:20
asimonStreetSmart: for firefox, it's /usr/bin/firefox01:20
StreetSmartintelikey: alright01:20
Admiral_Chicagoyou have the backdoor repo enabled?01:21
asimonheheh, "backport", nobody wants a backdoor repo ;-)01:21
klerfaytok I'm using slight font antialiasing and RGB sub-pixel hinting http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/2363/snapshot4zs1.png - why is M so fat?01:21
intelikeyasimon backdoors can be fun >:] 01:22
Admiral_Chicagoasimon, oh yea thats right01:22
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asimonintelikey: I suppose that depends on which side of the line you are.01:22
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intelikeyor on who you are interacting with....01:23
PrinzAdmiral_Chicago: I have downloaded kernel for i686... I will try using it01:23
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klerfaytor should I turn off antialiasing then I use sub-pixel hinting?01:23
Admiral_ChicagoPrinz, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19840 this is my sources.list01:23
Prinzokz01:24
Admiral_ChicagoI'm not saying you should use it, but you may want to look at it01:24
Prinzhehehe01:24
PrinzI will try using it01:24
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intelikeycareful about the markup there01:25
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asimonklerfayt: Maybe it gets better if you change the hinting from slight to full?01:26
intelikeyif you just use the download save as button you will get M$ markup   copy and paste the contents of the pastebin  and you avoid M$ markup01:26
klerfaytasimon: ok I'll try, but full antialiasing is slower01:26
klerfaytasimon: M, N and A are still fatter01:28
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rootim attempted to install the nvidia drivers with the .run from their site, and it is asking for the kernel source, where do i get that?01:30
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Dark_Oppressoroops01:31
Dark_Oppressoraccidentally left the channel, im not used to irssi haha01:31
klerfaytDark_Oppressor: you can install latest nvidia drivers using apt01:32
Dark_Oppressoroh, really?01:32
Dark_Oppressorhow would i go about doing that01:32
asimonklerfayt: which font is this?01:32
klerfaytDark_Oppressor: yes you need to enable Multiverse and Univeres repositories01:32
intelikey!ati01:33
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto01:33
PrinzAdmiral_Chicago: I found libxine-extracodecs using your sources01:33
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Admiral_Chicagookay01:33
Admiral_Chicagocool01:33
Prinzlol01:33
klerfaytasimon: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gamin/+bug/3658101:33
Dark_Oppressorok, how would i go about shutting down X and having only a terminal?01:33
PrinzAdmiral_Chicago: and...01:33
intelikeyDark_Oppressor sudo killall kdm01:34
PrinzAdmiral_Chicago: Amarok is running mp3 now!!!!01:34
Admiral_Chicagoawesome01:34
Prinzlol01:34
Dark_Oppressoralrigt thanks01:34
Dark_Oppressorill go try that01:34
klerfaytDark_Oppressor: no. after you install nvidia-glx package you just run sudo nvidia-xconfig and logout01:34
Dark_Oppressoroooh ok01:34
Dark_Oppressorcool01:34
Dark_Oppressorill go do that then :D01:34
DoodluvPrinz: how did you do it?01:35
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PrinzDoodluv: I used sources.list of Admiral_Chicago01:35
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Admiral_Chicagohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1984001:36
Admiral_Chicagois the sources.list I gave him, If I linked it right01:36
Prinzthe default list... don't found libxine-extracodecs01:36
intelikey any sujestions on how to work around this error?   --> The PPP daemon has died: No root priv error (exit code = 3)01:36
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PrinzI will reboot now with i68601:37
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intelikeymounted nosuid, and no root is locked01:37
intelikeysomebody ?01:37
DoodluvPrinz: ok thanks01:38
DoodluvAdmiral_Chicago: thanks01:38
intelikeyDoodluv too late. -:- SignOff Prinz: #kubuntu ("rebooting"01:38
klerfaytasimon: could the reason be msttcorefonts?01:38
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plugshow do i find out the root password?01:39
intelikeynobody ?01:39
Doodluvyour right01:39
intelikeyplugs there isn't one.01:39
intelikey!root01:39
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.01:39
luksan_plugs: impossible01:39
thasa42anyone know of an opensource burnprog for windows?01:39
intelikeyif you want a root passwd you will have to set it.01:39
asimonklerfayt: Well, it could be that some fonts render worse than others.01:39
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Dark_Oppressori installed nvidia-glx, ran nvidia-xconfig, and logged out and in, but i dont see any difference01:41
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intelikeyno thoughts  no sysadmins around ?01:41
klerfaytDark_Oppressor: my mistake01:41
StreetSmartintelikey: hey. after logging out. everytime i install a program it automaticaly comes in the menu... weird.01:42
klerfaytDark_Oppressor: if you log out then click on "menu" and choose "restarrt X"01:42
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Dark_Oppressorahh ok, ill go try that01:42
klerfaytDark_Oppressor: logging out doesn't restart X by default01:42
intelikeyStreetSmart aint kde kewl !01:42
StreetSmartintelikey: does kububtu come with ksynaptic already installed?01:42
intelikeyStreetSmart no  adept01:42
klerfaytStreetSmart: no01:42
StreetSmartah.01:43
StreetSmartthanks :P01:43
intelikeyyou can install synaptic ifn ya want it.01:43
nanotubeDark_Oppressor: you need to reconfigure xserver-org to use nvidia01:43
Admiral_Chicagonanotube, he quit01:43
nanotubeAdmiral_Chicago: :-)01:44
nanotubeI'm too slow01:44
Admiral_Chicagoyea I did the same thing01:44
nanotubeI'm browsing on the internet an canot find answer, can anyone give me hint how to alias my ra0 to eth0?01:45
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intelikeyStreetSmart also it's a good idea to learn how to use the cli package manager frontend of your choice.   apt or aptitude.       FYI all package tool in *buntu are frontends to dpkg = the debian package manager.01:45
Dark_Oppressorklerfayt: that did the trick, thanks01:45
intelikeytools01:45
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intelikeyapt is really simple to use, and is installed by default on all debian/*buntu systems.     apt-cache search <string>   to search   and apt-get install/remove <pack-name>    to add or remove them respectively01:47
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klerfaytDark_Oppressor: only problem seems to be that nvidia-settings keep resetting every time I log in (at least for me)01:47
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natso do you now the hack for msn01:48
posthuman!opengl01:49
ubotuI know nothing about opengl - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu01:49
nat!java01:49
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository01:49
Dark_Oppressorklerfayt: i have two monitors, but the entire Monitor Orientation section is greyed out01:49
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intelikeynat  gaim01:49
posthumancan you enable direct rendering with the opensource nvidia drive, or is that not possible?01:49
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posthumanthe nv one01:49
intelikeyanyone know how to fix grub error 21 ?01:51
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intelikeynat it's easier to just use /quit   or /exit    then you don't get klined and can come back....01:54
daignur sister if u got one01:54
cbowenAnybody know how to printer to a Fedora Core 5 CUPS server from Dapper?01:54
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soulrider!grub01:55
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto01:55
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ubotuI know nothing about nv - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu01:55
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soulrideri see its rather empty here today01:57
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artursI can not work with google mail - ERROR:node01:58
asimonsoulrider: It's Saturday, some people prefer to go out instead of hanging around in IRC  ;-)01:59
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intelikeytraitor that is     hehhe01:59
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soulrideryea lol02:00
artursHow can work with node in Konqueror02:00
arturs?02:00
soulridernerd rule #1, NEVER go to an open space02:00
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soulriderim gonna have to go02:01
soulriderapparently im gonna have to reinstall windoze adn then restore friggin grub02:01
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intelikeyok anyone know anything about grub ?02:04
intelikeyanything useful at all ?02:04
arturs02:04
arturssomething:)02:04
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intelikeyerror 2102:04
intelikeyreason for that is 'cant find disk'02:05
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intelikeyso if i have hdd's in /boot/grub/device.map  that have no partition   would that cause that error ?02:05
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tlpHi. I'm attempting to enable mp3 support and have followed the steps here: http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#mp3s -- However, libxine-extracodecs is not listed, and I do have the multiverse repository enabled.02:06
intelikeysecondly will changes to /boot/grub/devices.map affect grub   or does one have to reinstall grub to get that to affect grub ?02:06
intelikeytlp someone just went over that.   try the repos listed here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1984002:08
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intelikeydon't forget to update after any changes to your sources.list.02:08
tlpI'll look at that. Thanks!02:08
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Admiral_Chicago!loco02:09
ubotuInformation on Ubuntu Local Community Teams is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams02:09
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intelikey!media02:10
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs02:10
Admiral_Chicagohmm, the wikipedia enty for Linux disto comparisons is off02:11
intelikeywhy isn't   sox (cli based)  listed in that....?02:11
Dark_Oppressori have the taskbar set to auto hide itself when i move the mouse away, and it's been working, but all the sudden it disappeared and now it wont come back02:11
asimonintelikey: changes to devices.map take effect without the need to reinstall grub. The grub shell reads this file.02:11
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Admiral_Chicagothey say the default package manager is synaptic02:11
Admiral_Chicagoi'm pretty sure its apt-get02:12
intelikeyasimon thank you.   and any clue on the other Q ?02:12
tlpintelikey: Do you know which one of those repositories contains that specifically?02:12
intelikeyso if i have hdd's in /boot/grub/device.map  that have no partition   would that cause that error ?    <--- that one.02:13
tlpTried the first one.02:13
Admiral_Chicagotlp, do a !info <package>02:13
asimonintelikey: Only that the error indicates that the device does not exist or is not recognized by the system.02:13
intelikeytlp no but the list looks pretty comprehinsive.  i'd use the whole file.02:13
Admiral_Chicago!info amarok02:13
ubotuamarok: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In repository main, is optional. Version 2:1.3.9-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 7630 kB, installed size 18672 kB02:13
Admiral_Chicagofor example02:13
tlp!info libxine-extracodecs02:14
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB02:14
intelikeyasimon yes.    and i don't think grub is powerfull enough to boot an hd without partitions02:14
tlpAdmiral_Chicago: hehe, that didn't tell me anything :-/02:14
asimonintelikey: This I don't know.02:15
Admiral_Chicagoah tlp, yes its in multiverse02:15
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intelikeyasimon so lets assume for a moment that, that is the issue.    just commenting out those disks should solve it ?02:15
Admiral_Chicagotlp, I gave someone help earlier finding this package02:15
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Admiral_Chicagohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1984002:15
Admiral_Chicagothey used my sources.list02:15
tlpYes. I'm wondering which one of those specific repositories has that file. Maybe I'll just use that whole list. Where can I find sources.list?02:16
intelikeyi'll go try it.    booting is no big deal anyway.   i can always use a floppy disk.    "now that i built a kernel that will fit on a floppy"02:16
tlp(on my system)02:16
tlp/etc/apt/ I'm assuming?02:16
intelikeytlp package name ?02:17
asimonintelikey: As I understand grub usually guesses the mapping automatically right and devices.map is needed only in rare situtaions.02:17
tlpintelikey: libxine-extracodecs02:17
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intelikey!info libxine-extracodecs02:17
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB02:17
intelikeythere   ^02:17
tlpYes. I just did that :-)02:17
tlpI mean the repository URL.02:18
Admiral_Chicagotlp, yea etc/apt/sources.list02:18
tlpThe multiverse URL I have doesn't work.02:18
intelikeyasimon then grub will probably never be able to boot anything on this box.02:18
Admiral_Chicagoerr /etc/apt/sources.list02:18
intelikeyi'll go test anyway.02:18
Admiral_Chicagotlp, good luck02:18
joshpiSome one help me Pleas02:18
tlpAdmiral_Chicago: Thanks. Am fetching updates with your list now.02:18
Admiral_Chicagoand if you need help, go ask hybrid02:18
Admiral_Chicagocool02:19
joshpithanks02:19
joshpiI'll ask hybrid02:19
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tlpFound it. Thanks again.02:20
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tlpBah. And now I can't find w32codecs.02:22
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BluesKajanyone know where i can find the tovid gui ...been searching for for a while and sen lots of refernces to how great it is but no sources are mentioned !02:23
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Shannon1hi everyone ,, can anyone help me with how to make ltserial load automatically,, I cant use my modem  unless i do modprobe ltserial,,02:23
marquezbalguien que hable espanol02:23
BluesKaj!tovid gui02:24
ubotuI know nothing about tovid gui - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu02:24
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ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.02:24
marquezbgracias02:24
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ubotuI know nothing about tovid - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu02:24
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asimonShannon1: You can add the module name to /etc/modules, then it's loaded automatically during boot.02:25
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joshpican someone help me please02:27
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Shannon1asimon: I have my 2 module ltmodem and ltserial in "uname -a"/extra02:27
Shannon1but still ,, they dont seem to load unless I do modprobe02:28
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visik7why gnome is so dumb ?02:29
visik7I can't understand why I can't set a background for each workspace02:29
Shannon1and I notice its in /lib/modules/2.6.19.386/extra  not etc modules02:30
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Shannon1asimon: I dont have any etc/modules I have modprobe.d and modutils02:32
Shannon1Im I missin something?02:33
gekko`i had read somewhere that you can mount .bin/.cue files w/o having to burn them, anybody knows how?02:33
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asimonShannon1: Normaly there is a /etc/modules file. But the format is easy. Every single line contains a name of a module to load. Lines starting with # are ignored02:33
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asimonShannon1: See here for my /etc/modules file:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19843 , so I recommend to just create one and add the two modules you want to load automatically02:35
Shannon1asimon: ah ha! a module file,, was looking fo rfolder. your right ,, there is a modules file,,02:36
tlpSo, I've installed libxine-extracodecs and yet Amarok still refuses to play mp3s.02:36
tlpIt will happily play oggs, though.02:36
asimonShannon1: Ah, I should have mentioned that.02:36
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Shannon1so if I just add ltmodem and ltserial thats it?02:37
Shannon1dont I have to put down a route of some sort, so it can find it easily02:37
asimonShannon1: It should work, modprobe will know where to find the modules.02:38
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Shannon1ill reboot and let you know, in a minute,, dont go away  ;)02:39
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jbirdAngelHello02:43
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jbirdAngeldoes the proprietary software, windows media player, quicktime, etc. can they play the open source ogg mp3 alternative and the open source .mov /.avi type alternative?02:45
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Shannon1asimon: it worked like a charm,, thx very much,, your a doll xxx02:46
asimonShannon1: Good. :)02:46
Shannon1have a nice evening.. all..02:46
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coachjclass tonight at ubuntu-classroom02:55
omeowWhat will it be about?02:56
IreclanWho maintains the Application Handbooks?02:58
Dodger_omeow: tonight is the intro to IRC class03:00
Dodger_which, i have to wonder03:01
omeowHow are you going to communicate with people if they're new to IRC?03:01
Dodger_precisely :P03:01
omeowObviously, they won't be using it at the time?03:01
Dodger_i imagine the class goes a little more in depth than just connecting and joining a channel03:01
omeowOh well... nothing new for me there.03:02
omeowGive me a poke when it'll be about how to manage start up services/speeding up the boot process. :)03:02
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IreclanErrrrrm..........03:04
Ireclan<Ireclan> Who maintains the Application Handbooks?03:04
neoncodeDo MSN webcams work in the new version of Kopete?03:05
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claudiohi03:07
omeowhello03:07
IreclanI suppose no one knows what I'm talking about...03:07
claudioi need some help03:07
claudioanyone pls03:07
IreclanYou know the Kubuntu Desktop Guide?03:07
omeowIreclan, I suppose that would be listed on the first page of the handbook?03:08
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Dodger_claudio: help with what?03:08
claudiobasically make amaroK play mp303:08
claudioany help Dodger?03:09
IreclanOk. So, how do I access the handbook for a particular application?03:09
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omeowIreclan, press f1 while in the application?03:09
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IreclanOh! So, there are no online versions?03:10
omeowNeed to have the handbook installed, obviously. But I think the kde helpcenter is a searchable database of all these handbooks.03:10
omeowI think that depends per application.03:10
omeowWhich handbook are you looking for?03:10
Dodger_hold on claudio03:11
claudiopls guys help me :)03:11
claudiook Dodger03:11
Dodger_sorry... trying to remember how i did this   -  try installing the libxine-extracodecs package03:11
Dodger_and setting amarok to use the xine engine03:11
IreclanAs many as I can access and print. I don't yet know how to print from Kubuntu.03:12
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claudiook, but i cant find that extracodescs03:12
IreclanI'm speaking from my windows partition currently.03:12
omeowclaudio, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats03:12
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omeowIreclan, what keeps you from printing in kubuntu?03:13
claudioyaeh i have tried that Dodger03:13
claudioim not able to find those "extracodecs"03:14
omeowRead the page I linked to yet, claudio?03:14
claudioys i have03:14
omeowHonestly?03:14
Dodger_run 'aptitude search libxine-extracodecs' in a terminal03:14
claudiook typing now03:15
omeowIt won't find the package, because you haven't set up the universe and multiverse repositories.03:15
IreclanI don't know how. I'm a total Linux noob. Before touching ANYTHING on my newly installed Kubuntu system, I figured I'd read up and get informed, you know?03:15
omeowIf you really had read the page I linked to, you would have known.03:15
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Dodger_ah... good call omeow03:16
claudioyes thats it omeow the repositories03:16
omeowIreclan, which printer do you have?03:16
claudiothat particular package must be in universe right?03:17
omeowMost probably.03:17
claudiook, coz i ran apt-get and nothing happen03:18
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claudiothanx guys03:18
omeowread the page yet? :) it links to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu03:18
IreclanHP Deskjet 832C.03:18
claudiothanx omeow & Dodger03:18
omeowIreclan, I don't think you'll have much problems setting up a local printer on kubuntu. I haven't tried a network printer, because there's no interface for it it seems. Lots of text-file editing, etc.03:19
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omeowWhat you do is, you go to "System Settings" then printers, add printer, then follow the wizard.03:20
omeowGo reboot and I'll help some more if I can.03:20
IreclanAh. OK. I'll do that later, after I finish the Desktop Guide.03:20
omeowYou mean finish printing it? :)03:21
eduHow Can I set up my Lucent Winmodem? (with the K7 kernel)03:21
IreclanI am curios though...Why do some people use GNOME, yet others KDE? Surely there are reasons...03:21
Ireclan*curious03:22
omeowSome people like different looks and feels.03:22
claudioi prefer KDE03:22
omeowMust be the reason why you're using kubuntu then, eh? ;)03:22
claudioexactly omeow03:22
omeowI must say Ireclan, you seem to be one of the few that actually reads the desktop guide.03:23
claudiobasically i came from other KDE based distro so...03:23
omeowYou probably won't have any trouble installing extra audio codecs for mp3 playback.03:23
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IreclanI really wanted Ubuntu. But Ubuntu would not install. Kubuntu did. Not only did Kubuntu install, it did so much faster than Ubuntu attempted to.03:24
claudiook omeow, my mistake must in the repositories03:24
omeowHow come ubuntu did not install?03:24
IreclanIt just...hung, around step 2.03:25
eduMhhhhhhhh KDE is superior than GNOME, not only in the visuals, but also in usuability (sorry for my little English903:25
omeowLet's not start about that again... :)03:25
IreclanNo error message, nothing.03:25
edumhh flames03:25
omeowCertainly strange.03:25
IreclanThe window for step 2 just stopped rendering at a certain point.03:25
omeowI think that happened for me too once. I was trying out the DVD for kubuntu.03:26
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IreclanThe hard drive was still whirling, and the CD drive was lighting up, but nothing ever happened.03:26
IreclanAfter waiting 15 minutes, I just turned it off.03:27
IreclanThen I tried graphical safe mode.03:27
claudiook god Ireclan03:27
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IreclanTHAT was fun.03:27
IreclanX-Server crashed on me IMMEDIATLY.03:27
claudioi thinsk thats frustattinh03:27
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eduIreclan, do you use a PC or a laptop?03:28
IreclanPC.03:28
eduhow old is it?03:28
claudioi use laptop edu03:28
larson9999well, this is a little goofy.  i've been getting lockups lately.  since i installed a buch of stuff via unorthodox methods, i figured i'd reinstall.  i did reinstall but for some reason my network card isn't recognized now.  never had a problem with this card before.  booted to windows and it works fine.03:28
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IreclanWhat was funny was when Kubuntu loaded step 2 in a jiffy.03:29
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IreclanNO PROBLEMS.03:29
IreclanAT ALL.03:29
claudioin fact kubuntu runs everything in my acer03:29
IreclanWeird, huh?03:29
IreclanEdu, my PC is about a year old.03:30
IreclanHP.03:30
IreclanAnywho, so that's why I use KDE.03:30
IreclanIt's not like I really had a choice, but, meh.03:31
Kr4t05!tell me about nvidia03:31
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Kr4t05Aw...03:31
BrigadierFroghello, where the $@%# is xorgcfg in kubuntu?03:31
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larson9999BrigadierFrog, xorg.conf?03:32
Kr4t05BrigadierFrog: /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:32
omeowWell, Ireclan, hopefully if you ever get used to KDE and then switch to gnome, you'll notice why some people use gnome but others prefer KDE. I think the difference is quite easy to spot.03:32
IreclanAfter using Kubuntu, I was told I COULD revert to GNOME, but I figured that would be alot of hassel.03:32
BrigadierFrogno no, the program that lets you generate the xorg.conf file through questions03:32
BrigadierFrogxorgcfg03:32
Kr4t05!tell me about automatix03:32
IreclanSo, I have one burning question...03:33
larson9999i can't figure out how anyone would like gnome.  but that's just me.03:33
eduhahahaha03:33
IreclanAre there dial-up hardware modems?03:33
edui think gnome is like windows 95 with a nicer theme hahahhaha03:33
edubut it's easier for developers, the gtk envioroment, or that's what they say.03:34
CVirushow can I refresh my KDE menu ?03:34
claudioonly for old ISA slots Ireclan03:34
Ireclan...You're kidding...03:34
claudiono hhehe03:35
omeowCVirus, press F2 and type kbuildsycoca then click run.03:35
omeow(or press enter)03:35
IreclanSo, now I HAVE to run the dreaded Winmodem guantlet?03:35
eduIreclan03:35
eduI am using a hardware dial up modem.03:35
eduRight now.03:35
CVirusomeow: Thanks03:35
Ireclan!!!03:35
ubotuI know nothing about !! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu03:35
eduIs on the serial port.03:35
IreclanREALLY?!03:35
eduIt's an US Robotics 56k EXT03:35
edufrom the year 9803:35
edulook at google03:36
IreclanHmmmmm.......03:36
eduit's the most sold modem at that time, I think...03:36
IreclanAny idea who would carry such a thing?03:36
omeowCVirus, I meant alt+f2 by the way. :)03:36
eduand as you can see, it has a great quality (it serves as in the first day)03:36
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eduIreclan, are you interested in that modem?03:37
CVirusomeow: i ran kbuildsycoca in whatever way :-p03:37
omeowSure, just thought I'd clarify.03:37
eduThey sell it today, but it's...expensive, compared to the soft modems :-(03:37
eduPerhaps you could see in a second hand store, at a good price, if you can't then look at the internet.03:38
claudiook guys im leaving, thanx again. bye03:38
IreclanSure I'm interested in a Hardware modem. They're a snap for Kubuntu to use, when compared with Winmodems. Right?03:38
eduRight03:38
edubut I have a LT Winmodem and it worked ....however! it worked with the i386 kernel, nor with k7!03:39
IreclanSo, would Wal-mart or Radio Shack carry these "Hard" modems, perhapse?03:40
eduPerhaps03:40
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eduYou live in the USA?03:40
IreclanYep.03:40
carlostuxtux03:40
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eduwait a second03:41
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HawkwindIreclan: Walmart doesn't but places like BestBuy have them for about $30 as I used one and bought one from there about 5 years ago when I started out on Linux03:42
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eduhey03:44
eduone question03:44
edua controller based modem is the same as a win modem, isn't it?03:44
IreclanI believe so.03:44
IreclanWait.......no........03:45
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eduhttp://wwwhttp://www.usr.com/support/product-template.asp?prod=5686e.usr.com/support/product-template.asp?prod=5686e+03:45
IreclanI believe a controllerLESS modem is the same.03:45
edubeacuse this modem seems to have linux support03:45
eduand it's newer than mine03:45
edu(and uglier, lol)03:46
edu Modem is compatible with Windows Server 2003, XP 64 bit, Server 2003 64 bit, XP, Windows NT 4.0, Windows 2000, Windows ME, Windows 98, Windows 95, Windows 3.1, Linux and DOS.**03:46
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edui think you could buy that one03:47
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IreclanI could....03:47
soulriderhi everyone03:47
soulrideri again lost my grub :P03:47
Dark_Oppressoris there a way to make double clicking icons open them, and single clicking just selecting them?03:47
soulriderim following the instructions ont he site but im not being able to recover it03:47
eduHowever, isn't it a bit..expansive?03:47
eduhttp://www.productshippingcenter.com/cgi-bin/ShoppingCart.asp?msg=&vcid=UR03:48
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edu94.9503:48
eduMaybe you could find the older one cheaper03:48
IreclanYa. Perhapse. Or, if all else fails, I run the dreaded Winmodem gauntlet.03:49
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billytwowillyhey, when are the reps going to be un screwed up?03:51
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billytwowillyerr. repos03:52
jott_Ireclan: go to ebay and get a good old us robotics v92 modem for 1-5$ ...03:52
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eduso, is there anyway of setting up the lt modem in the k7 kernel?03:54
IreclanPerhapse....03:54
IreclanOh. Well, the Desktop Guide claims there MIGHT be. Not sure.03:55
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edumhhhh03:55
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JoshTommy03:59
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TehKewl1he set a timer04:00
Hawkwindnalioth: Thank you :)04:00
naliothboy that /exec'll get ya every time04:00
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Josh<Rictoo> <3 Kirby04:01
Josh<Rictoo> no thx, what?04:01
Josh<Tommy> no kirbies04:01
soulriderHawkwind: im gonna need you help 0=)04:01
TehKewl1ok ban time04:01
Hawkwindsoulrider: With ?04:01
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soulriderrecovering my grub04:01
Joshil ban your face04:01
soulrideri already tried everything in the wiki04:01
TehKewl1trolling too04:01
soulriderand coulnt fix it04:01
Joshil ban your face04:01
Hawkwindsoulrider: I have no idea.  I know lilo and not grub unfortunately04:01
Joshil ban your face TehKewl104:01
soulrideraww :(04:02
Hawkwindnalioth: Please get rid of this guy for us04:02
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Joshget rid of your self04:02
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sotiredhey all...04:02
soulriderhey04:02
HawkwindHey there sotired04:02
sotiredthis isnt really a kubuntu issue as much as ubuntu issue...but i cant find an answer and this room has always been helpful04:03
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sotiredwhen i plug in my wireles card in the live cd environment it works, however when i install, it will not work, whats worse is once i plug it in ubuntu will not run any porgrams, inluding network config and terminal04:05
sotiredim using gnome on a laptop04:05
soulrideryay, Hawkwind i found some instruction on the forums and i think i did it04:05
soulriderill eb right back :)04:05
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goop2Im having trouble with AmaroK.. it wont make any noise :/04:08
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noiesmogoop2, sudo apt-get install libmad0 libxine-extracodecs04:09
noiesmogoop2, set amarok to use xine engine04:09
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noiesmogoop2, you'll need universe and multiverse repos04:10
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shadeofgreysup everybody04:10
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shadeofgreywhere are fonts stored and how do i add new ones?04:11
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goop2noiesmo: alright Ill give it a try.. thanks :)04:11
shadeofgreyi have over a thousand .ttf fonts i want avaiklable to my user04:11
TehKewl1try the font installer04:11
TehKewl1in the system settings04:11
noiesmogoop2, np heres a good guide for http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper04:11
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typer84hi guys04:20
typer84I'm a total NOOB04:20
TehKewl1ok ok04:20
typer84anyone can help me?04:20
TehKewl1I can help noobs04:20
typer84thanks04:20
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shadeofgreyolkay04:20
typer84I have nvidia driver for my geforce 660004:20
shadeofgreyhow the hell do you turn off milkitary time??04:20
typer84how can I install it?04:21
TehKewl1what kind of file?04:21
TehKewl1deb?04:21
typer84.run04:21
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thasa42where are knotes saved?04:21
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TehKewl1hmm04:22
typer84i have this NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8762-pkg1.run04:22
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TehKewl1umm, did you try installing it in adept04:23
typer84how? total noob....04:23
TehKewl1though I think NVIDIA drivers come default04:23
TehKewl1go to the K menu and then system settings04:23
Hawkwind!nvidia > typer8404:24
Hawkwindtyper84: Follow the instructions the bot just told you in pm04:24
TehKewl1your replacing me with a bot :(04:24
typer84ok I try04:24
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cerdais there any reason for my torrents are slow because KTorrent???04:27
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TehKewl1what is your internet speed?04:28
cerda300kbps04:29
TehKewl1and what are you getting04:29
edubye04:29
TehKewl1in Ktorrent04:29
cerdaactually the download rate is not estable04:30
typer84I can't find Administration then Synaptic Package Manager04:30
TehKewl1so try getting azureus04:30
cerdaright now im getting 8, 10, 11, 13, 14, 4, 5, 2, 1 ,2 kb/seg in a new torrent04:30
TehKewl1how many seeds?04:31
cerdait says 20 Peers04:31
HawkwindHow many seeds though04:31
HawkwindTorrents usually start off slow then speed up04:32
cerda128104:32
TehKewl1woah04:32
cerdayes i know04:32
TehKewl1thats a fair bit04:32
TehKewl1try getting azureus04:32
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cerdayes ill do it04:32
TehKewl1it's generally quite good04:32
thasa42and what would the client have to do with the speed?04:33
TehKewl1depends... if Ktorrent isnt working properly04:34
thasa42then it's the settings..04:34
cerdaill just try azureus and see what i get04:34
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cerdathasa42 do u use it?04:34
thasa42azureus?ktorrent? other client?04:35
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cerdaktorrent04:36
thasa42no.04:36
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Prinzwhy kde don't shutdown correctly?04:41
marxluzhello04:42
Prinzhi04:42
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marxluzi'm new in the room04:42
PrinzI too..04:43
marxluzi'm experimenting kubuntu04:43
marxluzwhere r u from?04:43
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BR_PrinzI'm from Brazil04:43
marxluzme 204:43
BR_Prinzlol04:44
marxluz=)04:44
marxluzd qual estado vc ?04:45
BR_PrinzRondnia04:45
Hawkwind!pt04:45
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.04:45
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BR_Prinzlol... he's cutting us04:46
marxluzhow can i install xgl in kubuntu?04:47
Hawkwind!xgl > marxluz04:47
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DFMGood evening all.04:54
DFMLooking for advise on getting a Linksys wpc11 v1 working on Kubuntu Dapper.04:55
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DFMI have downloaded the XP driver and loaded it using ndiswrapper but it will only show the driver as being installed.04:56
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DFMCannot locate the card.04:56
DFMHave searched the forums and all I can find is info on installing the v4 card.04:56
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DFMDoes anyone know of the v1 card will work and if so can you point me in the right direction to learn how to make it work?04:57
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noiesmoDFM, is this a laptop or norm system05:00
apeman2020Hello all..05:00
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apeman2020does anyone use a mail server hosted on there ubuntu box?05:00
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DFMsorry it is a Thinkpad a21m05:01
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deksomebody help me to configure my network with my Windows XP PC, Samba doesn't seem to recognise the other PC shared drives05:01
noiesmoDFM, built in card then or pcmcia05:01
DFMpcmcia05:01
DFMLinksys WPC11 v105:01
noiesmoDFM, ok so cards in when you boot check dmesg see if kernel sees it05:02
mmorrisis it possible to start a non-kubuntu application for a terminal in the root shell?  B/c the command I want to run must be ran from the root shell, therefore I can't just make an app for it without having to type in the <sudo -i> and then at the password field having to ender <password>05:02
nixternalhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue805:02
DFMI have removed the driver listed for the v4 card since I can't find a driver for the v105:03
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DFMshould I reinstall the v4 driver then reboot to see what the dmesg says?05:03
mmorriscan anyone help?05:03
DFMI doubt the v4 driver will work but it's all I found05:03
doppelgangermike?05:03
noiesmoDFM, yeh i would i found my d-link ard liked to be in on boot and then dmesg shows it then i used ndiswrapper to install driver05:04
mmorrisMy boy05:04
doppelgangerwhassssaaap05:04
mmorrisMy boy05:04
doppelganger;)05:04
plugsonce i've installed a program in wine, how do i run it?05:04
mmorrisI'm trying to play around with this stinkin computer05:04
mmorrisIt's killin me05:04
DFMforgive since I have been playing with Linux for just over a year but I am unfamiliar with dmesg.05:05
nnn0:)05:05
mmorrisHey... watch this...05:05
doppelgangerhey, in the chat room type "/join #trey05:05
DFMWhat is it and how do I get to it?05:05
nnn0ehehe05:05
noiesmoDFM, ok open terminal or konsole and type dmesg05:05
DFMduh that's what I was thinking but unsure05:05
DFMlet me reinstall the driver and reboot and I will be right back, thanks05:06
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IRCLemurHello! :)05:06
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rr72who logs this channel besides the bot who was not here on the 24th of july05:06
noiesmoDFM, ok reboot card pluged in then check dmesg then install driver05:06
DFMok05:06
plugshow do i run a program in wine after i install it?05:08
rr72May I /msg someone who logs this channel? The bot wasn't here.05:09
CVirusplugs: wine prog.exe05:09
IRCLemurLet me first state that I'm on a Dell Inspiron with a 5.59GB HD. Windows2000 is currently running & I have a strong wish to repartition my drive & install Kubuntu dual boot with windows....05:09
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IRCLemurIs it possible? lol05:09
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DFMI think it is but you may not be able to install a lot of packages.05:10
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IRCLemurI have an external HD for files.... but the BIOS of this laptop does not support USB boot. :(05:11
Kr4t05IRCLemur: get a new hard drive for your laptop. www.newegg.com05:11
IRCLemurI knew that was going to be one of the first things said... lol05:11
Kr4t05If you manage to squeeze both Windows and Ubuntu onto 5.59GB, I will applaud you.05:12
rr72just don't use kde05:12
Kr4t05IRCLemur: You might manage it with Xubuntu.05:13
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IRCLemuris there no way to boot from USB in my case?05:13
Kr4t05IRCLemur: Unless you fiind a BIOS update that will allow it.05:13
DFMnot if you bios doesn't support it05:13
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DFMOk Noiesmo I have rebooted and ran the dmesg. What am I looking for?05:15
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noiesmoDFM, any thing that mentions your wifi05:15
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noiesmoDFM, also do lspci and see if cards there05:18
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noiesmoDFM, if its there in lspci then try install driver with ndiswrapper there is ndisgtk a gui for ndiswrapper also05:18
DFMok. ouotput is long. I believe it is showing up as eth1 and says it is a prism 105:19
DFMthe eth0 is built in05:19
DFMI am going to check now and see if it shows both. it usually does but eth0 doesn't have an IP05:19
DFMok in system settings under network settings it shows both like I said. Let me run the lspci and see if it's there05:20
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noiesmoDFM, k05:21
DFMthe lspci only list the built in intel nic05:22
rr72how do i get rid of flicker?05:22
rr72i see horizontal lines on my screen onl on the right side in the middle05:22
noiesmoDFM, hmmm it should have listed the card05:22
DFMI have tried this with 2 different brands of card's and neither show up in the lspci05:22
noiesmoDFM, whats uname -a return05:23
DFMlinux thinkpad 2.6.15-26-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT and then the date05:24
rr72i even see the lines on the login screen for kdm05:24
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noiesmoDFM, ok same as my laptop odd it should have see a card05:24
AegeanLinux~qtcurve05:24
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rr72who logs this channel? the bot wasnt here when i need logs05:25
AegeanLinux!qtcurve05:25
ubotuI know nothing about qtcurve - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu05:25
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crimsunrr72: during what period?05:25
DFMneither of the cards show up and one is new. this was a working win98 with working pcmcia slot before I loaded Dapper05:25
rr72the 24th of july -6:00 gmt time05:26
DFMI am not above reloading the whole thing with the card in the slot if I need to05:26
DFMI got the laptop to learn with anyway05:26
noiesmoDFM, can you get it on line with wire05:26
DFMon now05:26
noiesmoDFM, if so maybe do a dist-upgrade05:27
DFMin irc with my win machine and have laptop next to me05:27
DFMok I have added all the repositories and done an apt-get update and upgrade fromt he shell05:27
DFMis that what you are talking about?05:28
rr72crimsun~ is that u?05:28
noiesmoDFM, yes but try a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:28
DFMk05:28
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mmorris_join #trey05:29
DFMsays an upgrade will be 12k and not need any additional disk space05:29
DFMin process05:29
rr72who logs this channel? i would like to speak with a person not a bot since the bot wasnt here when i need logs05:29
crimsunrr72: I don't know of any other official logger.05:29
noiesmoDFM, how much is download05:29
DFM12k05:29
DFM12kB05:30
DFMcould it be because I installed a 686 kernel/05:31
noiesmoDFM, you could try 386 I just noticed im on 386 might help my laptops a p3 800mhz05:31
rr72!logs > ubotu05:31
DFMMine is a p3 70005:32
rr72pIII 850mhz coppermine05:32
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rr72i use 686 stuff fine05:32
DFMI was reading that the 686 kernel was for p2 and p3 so I installed it and seen boost in performance05:33
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DFMi can boot into a 386 kernel and try it there05:33
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noiesmoDFM, mine runs nice on 38605:33
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noiesmoDFM, yep do05:33
DFMk05:33
soulriderhey05:33
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soulrideryay today i recovered my grub by myself :P05:33
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soulriderfollowing the instructions and using my common sense: P05:34
rr72soulrider~ do u remember my signal 11 error?05:34
DFMbe right back my daughter wants something to eat05:35
rr72lmao05:35
soulrideryea05:35
soulrideri think i remember you mentioned it05:35
soulriderad signal 11 error sounds so sci fi movie lol05:35
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rr72weak ago it happend, i need logs from the 24th to help me problem05:37
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rr72my*05:37
DaemonLeeOkay, quick question for ya'll.05:37
soulrider:O05:37
DaemonLeeHow the hell do I make my clock non-military time?05:37
soulriderlol05:37
soulrider42 rulz :P05:38
soulrider24*05:38
DaemonLeeI mean, I'm a fan and everything...05:38
DaemonLeeand I know military time and have to use it on forms...05:38
DaemonLeebut. It's not good for impulse look.05:38
soulriderhow about05:38
soulriderright click > date and time format05:38
DaemonLeeLike "CRAP! WHAT TIME IS IT?!"05:38
shadeofgreyi need to know the answer to that same questioon05:38
soulridermaybe you can change it there05:38
shadeofgreyno rthats not ikt05:38
shadeofgreyi already checked there05:38
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soulrideruhm05:39
DaemonLeeBRB05:39
soulrideri dont know :/05:39
soulridersince we use 24 hour format here it doesnt really bother me05:39
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soulriderbut i allways get confused with 12 pm and 12 am05:40
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DaemonLeeWhat the hell...05:40
DaemonLeeI'm logging out and now Ubuntu refuses to close XCHAT.05:40
soulrider:/05:41
noiesmoDFM, did the 386 kernel make any diff05:41
DFMjust got back from getting my daughter some food. let me log into kde and check05:41
DaemonLeeHelp.05:42
noiesmoDFM, np ;)05:42
DaemonLeeTower possessed. Won't let me log out. Kinda stuck at XCHAT and AMSN.05:42
rr72who can get me a log of this channel for the 24th of july?05:42
dek!printers05:43
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows05:43
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DFMnoiesmo, same thing nothing showing up in lspci05:44
noiesmoDFM, bugger05:45
DFMI am wandering if this card will even work with Linux05:45
dekI get the "Unable to find any workgroups in your local network" error in Samba Shares when trying to get to my network, from Windows XP it works fine. What's wrong?05:45
mmorris_join #2205:46
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noiesmoDFM, whats the model again05:46
mmorris_can people join that channel?05:46
soulriderrr72: i managed to get ET working today, with sound and everything05:46
mmorris_somebody try...05:47
soulrideri see you05:47
DFMthinkpad a21m and the card is a Linksys WPC11 no version listed. I believe it's the first one.05:47
DFMI really want to but one listed as works out of the box with Linux but I figured if I could make one of the 2 that I had work why spend money right?05:48
nixternal!fridge05:48
ubotufridge is the Ubuntu's Community News website, and can be found at http://fridge.ubuntu.com05:48
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wikinghi05:50
wikingive just installed kubuntu05:50
soulrider:)05:50
wikinghowever during install it didnt let me specify root password?05:50
soulriderwiking: you wont regret it05:50
soulridernope05:50
wikingyeah i like it already05:51
soulriderin kubuntu you dont use the root account05:51
soulrideryou use sudo <command>05:51
wikingwell i need to some terminal work as root05:51
soulriderchich allows you to ahve root permissios with your account05:51
soulriderand it will prompt for a password, which happens to be your account pass05:51
wikingok so "root" doesnt really exist?05:51
DFMnoiesmo, i just removed the card from slot 1 and put into slot 0 and then ran dmesg and it showed pccard ejected and then pcmcia card inserted into slot 005:51
DFMyes it does if you want to activate it05:52
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rr72soulrider~ cool05:52
soulrideri believe it does but the password is random05:52
soulriderso you cant really use it05:52
DFMyes05:52
wikingok thx05:52
soulriderjust remember, if you need to run somethign as root just type sudo before everything05:52
wikinggotten used to having root account on other distros and havent used sudo b405:52
DFMonly difference I found is that when you sudo a command you go root for that command only05:52
soulriderwell, i think you can use sudo su -05:52
mmorris_ Can somebody tell me how I can customize my taskbar?05:52
soulriderand that will grant you root permissions05:53
DFMno you cannot su -05:53
wikingcheers soulrider05:53
soulriderDFM:  you cant?05:53
soulriderive used it :/ at  least in the lvie CD05:53
soulriderlive*05:53
DFMonly sudo unless you activate root account then su - command works05:53
noiesmoDFM, anything in lspci after replugging card05:53
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DFMnothing05:54
wikingtoss windooze out05:54
soulrideryea05:54
soulrideri decided i was gonna have win only for games05:54
soulriderand strictly for games05:54
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noiesmoDFM, just been googling and not much there05:54
soulrideri wont allow myself to install anythign else05:54
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TehKewl1I'm having trouble getting tor to run05:55
DFMI know that's how I ended up here05:55
wikingyea dunno if cedega will ever amount to something really useful05:55
soulriderand its not free :(05:55
TehKewl1you can use CVS though05:55
soulrider:/05:55
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wikingwouldnt mind paying small fee if it meant no more windooze forever05:56
wikingdont think CVS does installers properly05:56
wikingi mean winshield05:56
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soulrideri never payed for windoze in my life: P05:57
noiesmoDFM, http://www.die.net/doc/linux/HOWTO/mini/Wireless-Link-sys-WPC11/x50.html05:57
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DFMthanks let me look05:57
noiesmodfmhttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=46239105:58
noiesmodfm http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=46239105:58
noiesmoDFM, this is debian info but ubuntu based on debian might help05:58
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jack__howto auto turn on the numlock when i login05:58
DFMtrue05:58
doppelgangerwhat audio  program can play a wma file?05:59
doppelgangeri've got the codecs32 pack and nothing i've got can play this file05:59
soulriderdoppelganger: i think you need to install the codecs05:59
noiesmoDFM, here chech this http://jason.379.com/node/205:59
soulrideroh05:59
Dark_Oppressorive got a 7900 gt and two monitors, and have installed nvidia-glx;  I can configure the resolution and whatnot for monitor 1, but my second monitor doesnt even appear to be detected, do i need to edit xorg.conf to add in my other monitor?05:59
doppelgangeramarok, mplayer, vlc, nothing05:59
noiesmoc/chech/check05:59
doppelgangeri've got all kinds of codecs05:59
soulrideruhm.. you should considering re encoding those WMA files05:59
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noiesmoDFM, this link suggest card in when install ubuntu06:00
noiesmoDFM, http://jason.379.com/node/206:00
IRCLemurhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330015344444 <-- I just purchased that.... FINALLY.... I bought a new drive.06:01
noiesmodoppelganger, try install libxine-extracodecs06:01
DFMThink I will reinstall with card in06:02
noiesmoDFM, seems to be what worked for jason from http://jason.379.com/node/206:02
DarthVaderhello, I'v noticed that since KDE 3.5.4 update, Kate is displaying a LOT of debug statement (in the console) .. is there a way to switch that off? Or a new version of Kate somewhere? Thanks.06:02
doppelgangeri'll see if i have that, thanks noi06:02
DFMdoppelganger you could install automatix which I believe will install about every codec you need06:02
doppelgangeri used automatix to install what i've got  ;P06:03
doppelgangeri think this file might just be fubar'd06:03
doppelgangeryeah, the extracodecs are installed06:04
doppelgangerguess it's screwed, oh well06:04
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noiesmodoppelganger, please check this for me ls /usr/lib/w32codecs06:06
noiesmodoppelganger,  also does /usr/lib/win32/ folder exsist06:06
rr72i don't suggest upgrading to dapper06:06
rr72all it has been is problems for me06:06
XVampireXHey, uhm06:06
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doppelgangerno such file or directory  ;S06:07
XVampireXIn konsole can I switch sessions with the keyboard?06:07
the-ermI like using the su command.  So I can su to a specific user, run some commands yet have it behave as if I were that person logged in su -p doesn't allow this quite right.  It'll make me that user, but when I cd it cd's to MY home not the person I'm sued as.  Anyone know the answer?06:07
XVampireXlike if I have multiple tabs open I could switch between them06:07
doppelgangeri double checked the spelling  ;)06:07
noiesmodoppelganger, ok mplayer uses w32codecs and i think it looks for them in /usr/lib/win32 or /usr/lib/w32codecs06:08
Hawkwindthe-erm: Setup a traditional root account using 'su passwd'06:08
doppelgangeri'll use search and see what i got06:08
the-ermHawkwind: what's a 'traditional' account?06:08
the-ermSeems to have a root account.06:08
doppelgangerusually distros have a root account that you login to06:09
Hawkwindthe-erm: Traditional, instead of using sudo for everything.06:09
doppelgangerin [k] ubuntu you don't have one by default, although it *is* there06:09
Hawkwindthe-erm: Ubuntu uses sudo for everything, there is no root account by default06:09
doppelgangeryou just don't use it, you use sudo commands to act as root06:09
XVampireX[07:07]  <XVampireX> In konsole can I switch sessions with the keyboard?06:09
the-ermwell ... I sudo passwd, changed it.  now I can log in as root no problem.06:09
the-ermJust doesn't behave quite like mandriva did in this area.06:10
the-ermI'll set up a root account.06:10
noiesmodoppelganger, see if you can find win32codecs.tar then unpack it so as to have /usr/lib/win32codecs06:10
the-ermLooks like there is one already set up with uid 0.06:11
HawkwindI've never dealt with multiple accounts on a box so I'm not sure.  But if the console is logged in as *you* originally then cd should and will always go to *your* home directory, regardless of who you have su'd to06:11
pha1sityok this is probably a stupid question, but why can I not su oin a fresh install?06:11
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pha1sityon*06:11
Hawkwindpha1sity: sudo06:11
Hawkwindpha1sity: Ubuntu doesn't have a root account by default, it uses sudo06:11
Hawkwindpha1sity: We just explained that about 8 - 10 lines ago06:11
DFMnot hard to enable root though if you want to06:11
pha1sityi wasnt looking06:11
noiesmodoppelganger, check this for win32codecs also http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5439906:12
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pha1sityany particular reason the file manager wont install packages?06:12
Hawkwindpha1sity: What are you trying to install, and what errors do you get ?  Put any and all errors into a pastebin06:13
rr72who logs this channel besides the bot who was not here they day i need logs06:13
pha1sityits on a different comp06:13
doppelgangeri'll check, thanks again noiesmo06:13
pha1sitylemme get it on irc06:13
the-ermActually Hawkwind if you su as yourself then type in cd it takes you to /root su someoneElse cd takes you to their folder su -p and cd it takes you to your folder.06:13
the-ermAt least that's the way it behaves here.06:13
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Hawkwindthe-erm: Again, I don't use multiple accounts on a Linux machine so I can't test it06:14
rr72how do i get rid of flickering on my monitor?06:14
the-erm:) ok06:14
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rr72its only center right horizontal stripes06:14
Agiostry a different refresh rate06:14
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rr72id like to but kdm isnt working right06:15
rr72and i need to install the right driver06:15
DFM72 I have seen that in the past and found that if you install the correct video driver or Agios said change refresh if should go away06:15
jontecIs apache enabled in Linux automatically? I have a php file that I want to run locally.06:15
Hawkwindjontec: Not in Kubuntu it's not06:15
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Agiosrunning the wrong driver could harm your monitor06:16
rr72dfm i can't install the right driver untill i get logs from this channel on the 24th of july -6 GMT06:16
jontecHow do I do it?06:16
pha1sity_argh06:16
DFMoh06:16
jontecDo I actually have to install it?06:16
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Hawkwindrr72: Why can't you install drivers now ?06:16
Hawkwindjontec: Yes06:16
thompathis hp bios sucks06:16
rr72Agios~ the right one is installed just not the one from the manufacturer06:16
rr72thompa~ welcome to hp06:16
Agiosok06:16
rr72the basic nv is installed06:17
thompaanything with usb plugged in will not let the hp boot06:17
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rr72i need to install nvidia from nvidia.com but i can't06:17
Agioswhat's wrong with nvidia-glx?06:17
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thomparr72: in windows its the same, wont boot with usb connected06:17
rr72Agios~ this has happend many times06:17
rr72thompa~ welcome to HP it sux06:17
jontecOkay, but before we handle the apache problem, Is there any reason why my password would have changed? I noticed that I wasn't able to access any external storage devices.06:18
thompasomeone told me i need to buy all hp usb devices maybe06:18
rr72don't have hp sorry06:18
jontecIt gave me the same error that you would receieve if you were on an account that didn't have root priviledges.06:18
rr72who logs this channel?06:18
rr72not the bot06:18
thompabut its working ok otherwise,06:18
rr72bot was AWOL 7/24/0606:19
jontecMy specific problem is that I can't run sudo or kdesu. T_T And I need to use adept06:19
thompathats my birthday06:19
thompabut im not a bot, i dont think06:20
thompai cant rip songs off this cd for some reason,06:20
thompanone get past 5% , grip06:21
soulriderthompa, some CDs are copy protected06:22
soulrideri suggest you use win and anyDVD06:22
jontecCan anyone tell me why I the password that I've used for kdesu and sudo su now, suddenly, do not work?06:22
soulrideryes, horrible solution but could work06:22
Hawkwindrr72: What is it you need from that date in the logs ?06:22
Hawkwindrr72: And why do YOU not log personally ?06:22
soulriderHawkwind: i would fix the grub :)06:22
thompasoulrider: it wont play either, its actually scratched , its old06:22
rr72who logs this channel? bot wont help me06:23
Agiosthere was an article the other day I read which said use hair jel on cd scratches to fix them temporarily06:23
thompaim trying to backup am old cd from the 80s06:23
DFMread same article06:23
thompanot the hair gel again06:24
Agiosrr72: Hawkwind has offered.06:24
rr72Agios~ sorry he is on ignore06:24
rr72he hates me06:24
Dr_Willisegads.. still looking for the mssing logs.. :)06:24
rr72Hawkwind~ can i /msg u?06:24
thompado i put the hair gel in the cd bay door06:24
soulriderohhh, that sucks :( what is it? :P06:24
Hawkwindrr72: What do you need from the logs on that date ?06:24
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Agiosrr72: well, if you have him on ignore then you don't deserve help :)06:25
rr72better in /msg, might have to queue a few things06:25
HawkwindAgios: Heh, so true06:25
rr72fine i don't want ur help then06:25
Hawkwindrr72: Just tell me what you need06:25
rr72the export cmd somone told me to execute06:25
Hawkwindrr72: If you're looking for a command or something06:25
rr72somin about gcc version signall 11 rr72 nvidia06:26
rr72export06:26
Dr_Williswhy not state what the problem is?  someone may rember the fix.06:26
rr72i have been asking but noone does06:26
rr72or the 25th depending on the timezone06:26
Hawkwindrr72: This was on July 24th ?06:27
rr72or 25th06:27
rr72the only 2 days missing from ubotu06:27
Dr_Willistry --force-tls=classic when running the NVIDIA installer06:27
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rr72the file i have was created on the 24th06:27
Hawkwindrr72: Give me a minute.  Looking for something else, then I'll grep my logs06:28
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rr72kk06:28
knoppix_Hi06:28
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DFMhi06:28
NamShubCMXI'm having a problem with my Kubuntu DVD06:28
HawkwindJul 24 20:12:20 <-(  h3sp4wn  )->   rr72: export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 before you run the nvidia program see whether it honors that06:29
NamShubCMXIm trying to reinstall my system06:29
rr72ty06:29
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Hawkwindrr72: That what you need ?06:29
rr72ty06:29
rr72i knew it was 24 th06:29
Hawkwindrr72: You're welcome.  Might want to keep those that can greatly help you off of ignore :P06:29
NamShubCMXbut when loading modules, Enterprise Volume Management System says I've got "bad blocks" on dm-006:29
NamShubCMXand never installs06:29
rr72sis i say anything after that a bit?06:30
rr72*did06:30
the-erm*yes* set show-all-if-ambiguous on06:30
Hawkwindrr72: Just that it worked and you said thank you to h3sp4wn06:30
NamShubCMXcan I turn off this module when installing?06:30
rr72kk06:30
the-ermThat's been driving me crazy06:30
NamShubCMXdoes it mean I have a dead HD?06:31
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NamShubCMX(knoppix boots and accesses all drives without problems)06:31
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Dr_Willisya mean i dident find the answer -->  LIBGL_DRIVER_PATH=/usr/X11R6/lib:/usr/X11R6/lib32   or --->   LIBGL_DRIVER_PATH=/usr/X11R6/lib/nvidia:/usr/X11R6/lib32/nvidia06:31
Dr_Willis:)06:32
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shadeofgreyokay06:32
shadeofgreyi knmow this is going to sound stupisd06:32
NamShubCMXanyone :S06:32
shadeofgreybut how the hell do i minimize all the windows i have open06:32
rr72Dr_Willis~ i knew the answer just forgot and my .bash_hostory didnt go taht far back06:32
jontec-.-06:32
shadeofgreyfurthermore where do i go to set keyboard shortcuts for launching programs and the lkike06:32
Dr_Williswhast was the answer? lol.. what was the question heh... i missed it.06:32
rr72i knew both and the bot knew the answer just he was AWOL06:33
Hawkwindrr72: You should set your .bash_history to save 50,000 commands instead of the default 50006:33
Dr_WillisYou just wanted to know how to set gcc to use  version 3.4 instead of the gcc4 ?06:33
rr72how do i do that hawk?06:33
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Hawkwind# Keep 50000 lines in .bash_history (default is 500)06:34
Hawkwindexport HISTSIZE=5000006:34
Hawkwindexport HISTFILESIZE=5000006:34
rr72WTF glxgears doesnt work now06:34
Hawkwindrr72: Add those 3 lines to your ~/.bashrc file at the bottom, restart your terminal afterwards06:34
Hawkwindrr72: Add it to both your user and root .bashrc files.06:34
rr72OMFG06:35
rr72i broke it now06:35
rr72my X server configs must be screwed up06:35
rr72how do i restart my terminal?06:35
shadeofgreyhey can solmeone plkease tell me how i sset a keyboard shortcut to minimize all open windows?06:35
Hawkwindrr72: Close it and reopen it06:35
jontecIs there anyway to reset root password, or just ifgure out how to get into kdesu and sudo su? My password has ceased to work and I cannot access usb disks and Mixer does not work either.06:35
shadeofgreyive been told that kde allows for LOTS of keyboard shortcuts and i just need to knmow where to go to set them.06:36
Dr_Willishttp://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper     seems to mention the nvidia gcc issue.06:36
Hawkwindjontec: You can do it by booting to single user mode06:36
jontecThat means absolutely nothing to me, please explain. ^_^06:36
Hawkwindshadeofgrey: Have you looked in kcontrol at all ?06:36
rr72everything worked in breezy06:37
shadeofgreyi dont know what that is or how to yuse06:37
shadeofgreyit06:37
shadeofgreyi JUST installed kubuntu yesterday06:37
shadeofgreyim still struggling to hget a handle on everything06:37
Dr_Willisit pays to read, read and read some more. :P06:37
rr72Dr_Willis~ no it aint06:37
soulridershadeofgrey: i installed it on monday or somehting06:38
Hawkwindjontec: This how-to was written when I used Mandriva, might still help you.  It's on my forums:  http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=265.006:38
soulriderits not hard to learn actually06:38
soulriderand theres IRC so you can ask anythign you need06:38
rr72and now my kmixxer is broke06:38
rr72i see an X over it06:38
thompashadeofgrey: just go to system settings06:38
Hawkwindshadeofgrey: Type 'kcontrol' into a terminal or when you alt-f2 type it06:38
DFMI read all the time and stay broke. Where can I get paid Doc?06:38
Dr_WillisDFM,  quit reading those Romance Novels!06:38
Dr_Willis:P06:38
rr72i wish i can revert06:38
HawkwindLOL Dr_Willis06:38
rr72breezy was easy06:38
DFMdamn you flushed me out and here I was hiding in the closet!!!!06:39
Hawkwindrr72: Dapper is no different, really06:39
Dr_WillisIve had no problems with dapper and nvidia or ati.06:39
rr72then why am i having loads of more problems?06:39
shadeofgreyokay06:39
shadeofgreynow06:39
Dr_Willisdid you  Upgrade? or clean intstall?06:39
shadeofgreyhow do i install nvidia displaY drivers06:39
soulrider!nvidia06:39
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto06:39
Hawkwind!nvidia > shadeofgrey06:39
DFMDr I seem to be having considerable trouble with my Ati card06:39
soulriderthere ya go :)06:39
jontecgracias. I know exactly what you're talking about. I had to do that on SuSE one time. T_T I just don't retain stuff like that.06:39
Hawkwindjontec: No problem.  Hope it helps06:40
rr72neither did a dirty install06:40
Dr_WillisDFM,  i followed that !ati page.. but i think they missed a step or 2.. I had to reboot then reconfigure the X res/display  to get it right.06:40
Hawkwindjontec: I don't retain stuff like that either, hence why I have forums and other sites to document it all on :)06:40
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rr72why can't i find GLX?06:40
rr72on o:o06:40
rr72* 0:006:40
rr72all my config files are b0rked06:41
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DFMWill do Doc after reinstall and get wifi working06:41
DFMthx06:41
Dr_WillisDFM ive only recently gotten wireless working Under linux.. :P it can be a real pain06:41
Dr_Williswireless can be a pain under windows as well.06:41
rr72wired is easy/fast/stable06:42
Dr_WillisIts so nice when different companies use different terms for the same  things/wirless settings.06:42
rr72hoope taht doesnt 0rk up under dapper as well06:42
DFMI believe I am going to buy a recomended card but don't know what I need.06:42
Dr_WillisStill havent figured out how some say a 64bit key is 15 characters, and otehrs say its 13 (i think)06:42
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rr72how do i get my xorg config files working again?06:43
DFMI bought an old Thinkpad for $100 and want to try and make everything work w/o spending any money (if possible)06:43
Dr_Willisrr72,  see what the x logs are complaining about?06:43
rr72no06:43
rr72too lazy06:44
rr72too long of logs06:44
Dr_Willisrr72,  wow.. just give up then. :P or delete the logs.. run startx and look at the end..06:44
rr72startx?06:44
Dr_Willisthat way ya just got the 1 log session06:44
rr72i never use taht06:44
Dr_Willisits a lot easier to test out x issues with gdm/kdm not running.06:44
HawkwindIf you're too lazy to look at logs then it's doubtful anyone is going to give their time to help you fix your problems06:45
rr72i knew i ignored u for a reason ;)06:45
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rr72i think a --purge wont hurt06:46
Hawkwindrr72: I'm not trying to be mean.  Just stating the facts.  You have to help us and yourself before we can you.06:46
rr72i have helped people06:46
Hawkwinddpkg-deb: building package `kernel-image-2.6.17.7' in `../kernel-image-2.6.17.7_686_i386.deb'.  Ahhh, finally :)06:46
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rr72i compiled by hand06:48
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rr72i never can get repos working for nvidia06:48
rr72just crap06:48
rr72more problems trying to install from repos06:48
Dr_Willisthen again i found a url that walked ya through the compiling the stuff.. and it had the info in it. :P06:48
rr72didnt walk me through shit06:49
rr72did it all myself06:49
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rr72!nvidia > rr7206:49
rr72see what his says06:49
AegeanLinux!nvidia06:50
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto06:50
Dr_Willisi googled and found -->  http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper     for details on using the latest official  packages from nvidia.06:50
Dr_Willisand that site mentioned the exporting of  the  gcc3.4 stuff.06:50
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rr72DAPPER IS EVIL PEOPLE DONT UPGRADE!06:51
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Dr_WillisActually - i advise doing a clean install. not a upgrade06:52
rr72i knew you would thats why i didnt answer u06:52
rr72IDC06:52
Dr_Willisi think the default needs to be for a /home on its own partition in the installer.06:52
rr72how the heck do i get nvidia off my system for a clean xorg install with nvidia from the repos?06:52
Dr_Willisof coruse I also got a file server running breezy. :P06:53
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rr72i knew nvidia was going to have probs06:53
rr72always happens06:53
rr72happened in debian06:53
Dr_Willishave fun... listing to people ranting.. always makes me sleepy.06:53
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rr72damn where did i put that link to nvidia about linux06:55
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waggle7622frackCan someone tell me the best partition setup for a clean kubuntu install with seperate /root /var /home /swap06:58
benlilist06:58
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shadeofgreyokay guys i need help06:59
Hawkwindwaggle7622frack: That's totally up to you.  Noone can tell you what's best for *you*06:59
shadeofgreyhow do i edit my xorg.conf file manually?06:59
waggle7622frackI tried 3 times and grub dies with file not found06:59
Hawkwindwaggle7622frack: Best way to do it is to experiment.  You always find ways to better partition your own system after doing it a few times06:59
waggle7622frackAll partitions are primary06:59
Hawkwindshadeofgrey: kdesu kwrite /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:59
waggle7622frackshould some be secondary06:59
shadeofgreyto open it weith the kate editor it should be sudo kate /etx/X11/xorg.conf right?06:59
shadeofgreywhat is kdesu07:00
Hawkwindshadeofgrey: No, use kdesu instead of sudo in this case07:00
Hawkwindshadeofgrey: It's a variant of sudo07:00
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tdmghey guys, I've used Kubuntu in the past, but was never really prepared for Linux.  I'm looking to put Kubuntu on my knew notebook, but I want to be an informed Linux user beforehand.  However, I'm finding it very hard to find any Linux guides for users who want to be informed but aren't interested in the very nitty-gritty.  Does anyone have suggestions?07:03
waggle7622frackIt wont boot with 4gb root 2gb var 12gb home 512mb swap all on primary partitions with /root active07:03
tdmgMost of the guides are very basic and written with my grandparents in mind, and the rest are all written for devs :-/07:03
damian_tdmg or very outdated07:04
tdmgyeah07:04
tdmgthat too07:04
damian_you could try the linux intermediate guide07:04
tdmgwhere at?07:04
damian_it's a little condenscending but not too basic07:04
damian_lemme find it07:04
tdmgthanks :D07:05
damian_http://www.linux.org/lessons/interm/index.html07:05
tdmgI'll take a look at it07:06
tdmgI just wanted something that would teach me about filesystems, the kernel, etc without inundating me or leaving me clueless07:07
damian_that guide is not too technical07:07
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XVampireXtdmg: tldp07:08
tdmgIt seems good, maybe a little outdated, but I'll read it through and then get back to you ;)07:08
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XVampireXI think that isit07:08
dbgltis there an easy way to remove/uninstall all gnome-desktop related packages?07:08
tdmgtldp?07:08
jontecOkay, I tried the login thing, but the root password still hasn't been changed07:08
dbgltI installed kubuntu-desktop, and now want to get rid of the gnome ones07:08
XVampireXjust a sec07:08
jontecmy login password, though I think has.07:08
damian_dbglt try adept07:08
jontecbut not to the one that I specified.07:08
damian_and then find the gnome packages and request remove07:08
dbgltdpkg doesn't note dependencies and such?07:09
dbgltor apt07:09
dbglt?07:09
damian_yes it does07:09
XVampireXhttp://www.tldp.org/07:09
tdmgah07:09
tdmgcool07:09
tdmglooks like this has plenty to keep me busy :D07:09
jontecI have a question, when you run kdesu or sudo su is the prompt asking for your user's password or the root password?07:09
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tdmgthanks Xvamp :)07:09
dbgltdamian_: ah when you say "gnome packages" you mean individual gnome-related packages?07:10
damian_yes07:10
damian_you don't have to remove them though07:10
damian_gnome programs will run in kde07:10
damian_as long as you have gtk07:10
dbgltI do know that. Thank you. I'm just not interested in any of them07:10
damian_adept will take care of everything for you07:10
XVampireXtdmg, no probs07:11
shadeofgreywhats -- how do i add a button toi my panel that minimizes all windows that i havbe open?07:11
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shadeofgreyi use that a lot and its driving me nuts that i cant find it anywhere07:11
rr72i think the location for my video card is wrong, it says pci but its agp07:11
shadeofgreyis there a kubuntu development channel here?07:12
rr72WTF is wrong with my xserver and nvidia?07:15
XVampireXrr72: you answered yourself :P07:15
rr72how?07:15
insanekaneshadeofgrey: right click -> Add applet to panel -> look for Show Desktop07:15
XVampireXThere is something wrong with your xserver and nvidia, that is what.07:16
rr72ur making my head hurt more07:16
ltmonLooking for help... I'm having wireless issues: both with networkmanager and standard networking (i.e. iwconfig) I can't get an IP address.  I can connect see the wireless AP and connect no problem, but DHCPDISCOVER just times out.  The same laptop works fine wired, and this laptop I'm using right now works fine on wireless with the same network settings.  This behaviour seemed to start after I resumed from suspend 2 ram last.  Anyone07:17
XVampireXrr72: you said something about XGL on #kde07:17
XVampireXrr72: must have not installed it right07:17
rr72no its not glx anymore07:17
XVampireXso what is it?07:17
XVampireXah07:17
rr72yeah it is glx07:17
rr72idk07:17
XVampireXhmm, reinstall drivers?07:18
rr72ive installed my nvidia drivers over 40 times07:18
XVampireXalways safe to have a backup for xorg.conf07:18
rr72(EE) Failed to load module "glx" (a required submodule could not be loaded, 0)07:18
rr72(EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)07:18
XVampireXDo you have a backup of xorg.conf?07:19
rr72heck no07:19
rr72i do for my other mocahines07:19
insanekaneshadeofgrey: ?07:19
rr72how do i uninstall NVIDIA driver i did by hand?07:20
soulriderhow can i set permissions in /etc/fstab to allow anyone to write on my ntfs partitions? because i think only roots can do that07:20
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rr72!nvidia > rr7207:22
rr72lets do it the bad way07:22
XVampireXhaha07:23
XVampireXwhere do I get 3.5.4?07:23
rr72crap didnt want to install headers07:25
rr72but oh well07:25
OODXVampireX: http://www.kubuntu.org/07:25
rr72tahts i i dl the nvidia installer from nvidia07:25
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jontecI need to know how to change the root password.07:26
soulriderjontec: what for :/07:26
jontecI tried booting single, but the root password still is not changed when I attempt to use sudo su inside Kubuntu.07:26
soulriderisnt sudo enough ?07:27
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soulrideroh07:27
jontecI cannot access sudo at all.07:27
OODjontec: just sudi07:27
OODsudo, dont use su07:27
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jontecokay, the problem still remains that I can't run any root things, such as changing things in system setting.07:28
jonteckdesu is the same as sudo su, correct?07:28
XVampireXsudi?07:28
XVampireXHuh07:28
OODwhat's the problem exactly?07:28
rr72new !nvidia wouldnt help me at all07:28
rr72didnt do shit07:28
OODrr72: you trying to install nvidia driver?07:28
XVampireXjontec: check if you're running any application with sudo already, or kdesu07:28
rr72back to exactly where i am, not working07:28
rr72ood no07:28
jontecI'm not07:28
soulriderim gpnna reboot, BRB07:29
XVampireXjontec, weird07:29
rr72i hate drivers in kubuntu07:29
rr72*dapper07:29
rr72i hate dapper*07:29
jontecI've rebooted several times. and to no avail.07:29
rr72breezy worked07:29
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OODrr72: what are you trying to do?07:29
rr72get xorg to work again07:29
OODwhy isn't it working?07:30
OODhave you tried reconfiguring xorg.conf?07:30
rr72yeah07:30
jontecIn grub I ran the restore and the command "passwd" to change password... and it did not work when went to run it from Kubuntu Terminal07:30
rr72ive scrathied it to the default07:30
jontecand I think at this point the system has locked me out entirely.07:30
rr72sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg07:30
rr72glx doesnt work07:31
rr72glxgears*07:31
rr72no nvidia screen on boot up07:31
rr72i hate dapepr07:31
rr72and nvidia07:31
rr72and XORG@07:31
damian_and linux07:31
OODso you can log in?07:31
OODthough you said you can't07:31
rr72ssh  always works07:32
rr72why cause its text07:32
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Frederickfolks wich is the commandto set the system sound volume?07:34
rr72and why is my video card being detected as pci? its agp07:34
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jontecood:I can login to my account, but not with any root access.07:35
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XVampireXFrederick: alsamixer07:35
rr72jontec~ root is disabled07:35
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XVampireXFrederick: but why do you need a command?07:35
jontecrr72: but sudo and kdesu should still work.07:36
XVampireXFrederick: There's kmix07:36
rr72does it say ur not part of the sudo list?07:36
Frederickthnaks07:36
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rr72are u in admin group?07:36
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jontecno it just gives me the invalid password.07:36
XVampireXjontec: use your user password07:37
rr72well put in the right password07:37
jontecyes, I'm the original account.07:37
silk_does anyone know how to make firefox work in kubuntu.07:37
jontecI have been.07:37
silk_there's some command line you have to edit?07:37
OOD!firefox07:37
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins07:37
jontecbut recently that stopped working.07:37
OODsilk_: ^^07:37
XVampireXsilk_: firefox works just fine,  I'd suggest you use Swiftfox07:37
jontecrecently being today, and I say recently because I had not made any changes to the system that would constitue a root pasword change.07:38
rr72i suggeest lynx07:38
XVampireX!swiftfox07:38
ubotuI know nothing about swiftfox - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu07:38
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XVampireXhehe, it doesn't know about swiftfox, someone should add it07:38
silk_Thought I remeber'd having to edit some command lines to get it working.07:38
silk_No one had this problem/07:38
XVampireXI.E: Optimized firefox for linux machines or amd machines07:38
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XVampireXsilk_: nope07:38
silk_No worries07:38
XVampireXnothing in the command line to get it working because it works07:38
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silk_Connections time out for me.07:39
XVampireXdns07:39
XVampireXMust be some problems with the DNS07:39
XVampireXcan you connect with other browsers?07:39
rr72don't ask07:39
rr72i did it07:39
rr72don't know how07:39
XVampireXrr72: how07:40
silk_Yah07:40
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XVampireXsilk_: then I don't know07:40
jontecI just looked up my account to double-check on the group thing... my primary group is jontec and my secondary groups is only "www-data, wwwadmin"07:40
rr72i cat /dev/urandom > /dev/hda007:40
jontecI think there should be more if my memory serves me.07:40
rr72u need admin07:40
rr72lpadmin07:40
rr72lots more07:40
silk_No wories I try the forums then.07:40
XVampireXrr72: crazy07:40
jontecis there any reason why the would be missing, or any way that they could have been deleted/removed?07:41
jontecalso, how do I add them from terminal? that's the only way that I'm going to be able to get root access07:42
XVampireX:-/07:42
XVampireXtry load su07:42
rr72u need to boot in rescue mode07:42
XVampireXyup07:42
jontecyeah,07:42
XVampireXthat too07:42
rr72i just had to do taht07:42
rr72last week07:42
jontecand load su is the only command?07:42
rr72trying to get cups working07:43
rr72no07:43
rr72just boot in rescure07:43
XVampireXjontec: no, su is the command07:43
rr72root is standard07:43
XVampireXsu = root07:43
jontecokay, so after su?07:43
rr72root is user su is not user07:43
XVampireXsudo = just gives you a shell to su with your own user07:43
jontecokay.07:43
XVampireXrr72: kinda07:44
rr72kinda?07:44
XVampireX:P07:44
XVampireXNevermind07:44
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rr72screw im going to bash code07:44
jontecso when I reboot in restore mode which gives me terminal @ root all that I have to enter is su?07:44
rr72be a lot easier07:44
rr72then put in autostart07:44
XVampireXjontec: no07:44
XVampireXjontec: restore mode = automatic su07:45
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jontecokay, yes, I understand that.07:45
XVampireX:)07:45
jontecthat's why it's not making sense to me to put in su...07:45
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rr72just put in path07:45
rr72i don't want in autostart07:45
jontecpath of what?07:45
rr72~/bin07:46
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rr72what i don't have a ~/bin!!07:46
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rr72why don't i have a ~bin?07:46
damian_just make one rr7207:47
damian_mkdir ~/bin07:47
damian_there07:47
rr72will it be in my path tho?07:47
damian_now you have a bin07:47
damian_add it07:47
damian_add this in your ~/.bashrc file07:47
damian_:07:47
rr72i don't want to frikin add it07:47
rr72i know07:47
rr72yaya07:47
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damian_PATH="$PATH:~/bin"07:48
rr72i know what to add07:48
rr72ill just add it07:48
damian_then what's your problem07:48
rr72i kow07:48
rr72don't want to07:48
damian_why not07:48
rr72leave me ALONE!07:48
rr72i hate this channel07:48
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rr72people bug me07:48
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damian_then stop asking questions07:49
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soulrideri gto a couple of NTFS partititions07:50
soulrideri can write to them07:50
andresmujicasudo bash07:50
soulriderbut how can i get the fmas so anyone can read and write adne xecute and do whatever htey want07:50
jontecokay, I'm just going to google and look at the wiki.07:50
jontecI'm tired and I need to get this resolved.07:50
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jontecwhat a surprise, the wiki is down.07:52
XVampireXhaha07:52
jontecthat has to be the most unreliable resource.07:52
jontecI wrote an article and the system bombed in the middle of it.07:53
jontecI had to wait until the next morning to upload it.07:53
Dark_Oppressorwhat can i use to extract a rar?07:53
HawkwindDark_Oppressor: unrar07:53
XVampireXjontec: It happens, people starting to move to ubuntu/kubuntu nowadays... they'll have to invest some more money in servers or get people to run mirrors07:54
damian_what is aRts?07:54
Hawkwinddamian_: Sound server07:54
XVampireXsound server07:54
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Dark_OppressorHawkwind, thanks07:55
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shadeofgreyhey is anybody here REALLY experienced with kmail i need some information07:56
soulrideri didnt know lol07:56
damian_XVampireX what's so silly about that question07:57
soulridererr, ,y nar just dissappeared07:57
XVampireXWas talking about "what can I use to extract a rar?"07:57
soulriderhow do i get it back again?07:57
ltmon_shadeofgrey: I think I am... ask your question and we'll find out07:57
shadeofgreyi need to know if its possible to have multiple email accounts in kmail07:57
shadeofgreylike a lot?07:57
XVampireXarts is a little bit more complicated.... but rar...07:58
soulridermy taskbar just dissappeared07:58
soulriderhow can i revoccer it?07:58
ltmon_shadeofgrey: I currently run two accounts, one POP3 and one IMAP.  I don't see why you couldn't extend this, but it might be difficult to manage them all.07:58
shadeofgreyi pl;an on using thunderbird for my main email client with my gmail account and then i want to configure kmail to handle all 15 of the email addresses that are linked to all 15 of my bloghs07:58
ltmon_shadeofgrey: Possibly it's worth getting them fowarded to the same account?07:58
shadeofgreyokay ltmon_ -- can wee taklk in private for a few minutes so that i can get iknformation from you on how to sd\etup each account07:59
shadeofgreyno thats totallynot possible07:59
shadeofgreythey all have to be seperate07:59
Dark_Oppressorunrar requires dependencies that arent in the ubuntu repos -_-07:59
shadeofgreybut in truth i dont NEED all 15 at the moment07:59
shadeofgreybut i definately need like at least 4 or 507:59
shadeofgreysee the thingthat gets me is i dont understand what the didfference is between accounts and identities08:00
shadeofgreylike, if i setup each account will i get seperate inboxes and sent boxes for each account?08:00
ltmon_an identity is who you appear as when you send an email: your name, reply to address, signature, encryption.  An account is where you get mail from and and what server you use to send the mail.08:01
XVampireXshadeofgrey: just set it all up again in thunderbird08:01
XVampireXor  I'm confused, but nevermind08:01
ltmon_shadeofgrey: you should be able to set them all up to have the same inbox if you are using POP3, if they are imap they probably need their own folder structure.08:01
shadeofgreyi want them all im diff inboxes08:02
shadeofgreybut its okay i found really stellar easy instructions via goiogle08:03
ltmon_shadeofgrey: there is a dropdown in the "Create Account" dialog which says "Destination Folder".  Create the folder and set the destination folder for an account to that folder when you create it.08:03
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jontecwill someone go to their users panel and read me off/ post to paste bin all of the groups that an admin enabled user needs to have? I cannot find it anywhere else, but I do have the command.08:05
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Gumbylo all.  I am trying to compile ndiswrapper on amd64 (kubuntu) and its telling me that I dont have a valid /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build directory.  Ive installed matching kernel headers for my kernel which I think is all I did in regular ubuntu.  Anyone have any idea what I might have done wrong?08:08
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jontecmy request was a two second thing, could someone please do it for me?08:13
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Gumbylpadmin and admin08:15
Gumbythats it08:15
jontecgracias.08:15
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jontecokay, so does anyone have any idea why Kmix will not work (says my sound card can not be detected) and why I cannot access my usb disk?08:35
jontecboth of which have worked before.08:35
pradeepto!java08:36
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository08:36
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abattoir_Gumby: you're sure about the kernel version?08:36
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Gumbyabattoir: figured it out.  thanks :)08:39
jontecI don't understand why I've had these odd outbreak of problems when I've done nothing that was would cause them.08:39
abattoirGumby: oh, ok... what was it?08:39
abattoirjontec: did you upgrade to 3.5.4 ?08:40
Gumbywrong header version :)08:40
abattoirGumby: :P08:40
Gumbynow I need to get ndiswrapper working in amd6408:40
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abattoirjontec: also check whether 'alsamixer'(from a terminal) recognizes your card..08:41
Gumbyndiswrapper that ships with the ubuntu kernels for some reason wont load my card properly08:42
jontecnope, I haven't perofrmed any updates.08:42
Gumbyso unfortunately I have to remove the module and compile my own.  of course, there are aparantly issues with amd64 and ndiswrapper08:42
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abattoirGumby: you're using 64-bit windows drivers right?08:43
crimsunjontec: if you unplugged your usb sound device without unloading the alsa driver first, it will hog the usb bus and cause the symptoms you described.08:43
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jontecabattoir:alsa detects it correctly, Kmix does now.08:43
abattoirjontec: listen to what crimsun says, he is the expert :)08:45
jonteccrimsun:my usb device doesn't have sound capabilities... it's just a flash disk.08:45
jonteclol, okay08:45
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jonteccrimsun:how do I fix it?08:45
abattoirjontec: you have a PCI (or integrated) soundcard?08:45
jontecabattoir:yes08:45
crimsunjontec: ah, I thought you said you have a usb sound device. Which sound device is it?08:45
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jontecabattoir: it's built into the computer.08:45
jontecoh, sorry, I mean08:45
jonteccrimsun: it's built in no speakers even play it, all of the sound comes from inside the box08:45
crimsunjontec: and suddenly it's inaudible?08:46
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jontecyes, windows plays it fine, it's linux I have the trouble with08:46
crimsunjontec: has it ever been audible in Kubuntu?08:46
jontecand recently, I don't know if this is related, I could not login to kdesu08:46
jontecyes08:46
crimsunjontec: are you using the latest updates?08:46
jontecI was using amaroK quite often...08:46
jontecI don't think so08:47
jontecI haven't done any updates08:47
crimsunplease ensure that you're up-to-date.08:47
jontecthat could take a while... I'm on dial-up O_o08:47
jontecI think it said that a full upgrade would be anywhere from 50MB to 95MB I can't remember exactly08:47
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crimsunis your sound card recognised?  ``asoundconf list''08:48
jontecit was too big for me to think about.08:48
jontecI think so08:56
jontecalsa said that it did as well.08:56
jontecI got kdesu to work on this session, should I try a reboot?08:56
crimsunI need the output from that command.08:56
jontecone sec08:56
jontecI82801BAICH208:56
crimsunok, and paste the output from ``amixer'' onto http://pastebin.ca08:56
crimsundon't flood here, plesae08:56
jontecokay08:56
Gumbyabattoir: no, I wasnt.  But I get the same issues regardless of being in amd64 of i386 ubuntu08:56
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htrakiDoes anybody know where can I get xine 1,1,2 in deb ?08:56
abattoirGumby: oh, ok, and compiling ndiswrapper from source solves the issue?08:56
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jontechttp://pastebin.ca/11812908:56
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abattoirhtraki: for dapper?08:56
abattoir!info libxine1c208:56
ubotulibxine1c2: the xine video/media player library, transitional package. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 114 kB, installed size 260 kB08:56
abattoir!info libxine1 edgy08:56
ubotulibxine1: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.1.2-2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 2819 kB, installed size 6484 kB08:56
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htrakithx guys,but I would like to it on dapper08:56
htrakiabattoir: yes, dapper08:56
abattoirhtraki: then i guess there is no 'official' deb...08:56
crimsunjontec: amixer set 'Low Power Mixer' on08:56
jontecwith single quotes?08:57
htrakithx,abattoir08:57
abattoirhtraki: np :)08:57
crimsunjontec: verbatim08:58
jontecokay, done08:58
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crimsunjontec: aplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE*up.wav08:58
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jontecyup, it works08:59
crimsunsorry, I don't know what that means.08:59
jontecyes, it works, it plays the sound08:59
crimsundo you mean "it works - I can hear it", or do you mean "it works but I can't hear anything"?08:59
jontecI can hear it.09:00
crimsunexcellent.09:00
crimsunsound problem resolved then?09:00
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jontecI think so, I'm opening amaroK now to test it. Is a reboot necessary? Kmix still has the x09:00
crimsunno need to reboot.09:01
jontecxine was unable to initialize any audio-drivers.09:02
crimsunjontec: did you close and restart amarok?09:02
jontecyes, and it said that no engine was loaded.09:03
jontecI enabled xine and xine gave me the error09:03
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crimsunwhat type of media file were you trying to play?09:03
crimsunhere, just log out of KDE and back in09:04
jontecmp3, the normal kind of file, they've always played before09:04
jonteck, one sec09:04
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jontecokay, kmix still has the error.09:06
crimsunin KDE System Settings, did you change the default sound device or something?09:07
jontecit's still on autodetect09:08
crimsundid you create an /etc/asound.conf or ~/.asoundrc* at any point in the past?09:08
jontecnope09:08
jontecI had a problem with before with kdesu and my su access, though09:09
crimsunI'm not on KDE, so I can't pull up kmix. What's the error?09:09
jontecand my groups did not seem to check out, so I don't really know what's going on with my computer09:09
jontecit says that a mixer cannot be found09:10
jontecand when you open the mixer window, there's no device on the dropdown menu09:10
crimsunwhat sound device is kmix configured to use?09:10
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crimsunok. Now in KDE System Settings, what are the choices for sound device other than autodetect?09:10
jontecopen sound system09:11
crimsunno alsa at all?09:11
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jontecadvanced linux sound architecture09:11
crimsunok, good09:12
jontecI'm slow at retriving and typing09:12
jontecno audio input/output09:12
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jontecenlightened sound daemon09:12
jontecnetwork audio system09:13
jontecand finally threaded open sound system09:13
crimsunok, so you want to choose advanced linux sound architecture (a.k.a. alsa)09:13
crimsunare there further options?09:13
flaccid!mysql09:14
ubotulamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP09:14
jonteconly the ones I listed in the drop down box, and there's several more after thatr09:14
crimsunright, and what are the ones after?09:14
jontecactually there's not that many I kind of exaggerated09:15
jontecfull duplex checkbox09:15
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crimsunthat should be checked09:15
jontecuse custom sampling rate (number box (greyed out), quality drop down box)09:15
jontecokay09:15
crimsuncan you choose the specific alsa device, like hw:0,0 or default or whatever?09:15
jontecwell it has overiide device location09:16
jontecand use other custom options09:16
crimsunok, just save and exit that for now. Does kmix show anything different?09:16
jontecthe only thing next is the MIDI device09:17
jontec'restarted kmix and I have the same error as before09:17
jontecstill with the x09:17
crimsunok, then you have deeper configuration issue that's KDE-specific09:18
jontecokay, could you take a look at something real quick...09:18
jontecit's about to go into the pastebin09:19
damian_!kmix09:20
ubotuI know nothing about kmix - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu09:20
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jontechttp://pastebin.ca/11816709:21
Dark_Oppressorare there any drivers out for tthe logitech g15 keyboard?09:21
jontecit's like two lines and it's about the groups09:21
jontecI think that it might be related to my usb disk, possibly maybe even with my sound?09:21
crimsunheh, yes.09:22
jontecI had to manually add the lpadmin and admin groups to be able to use kdesu09:22
crimsunis your user the first to be created?09:22
jontecyes09:22
crimsunthen your groups were munged by something09:22
jontecbut I took a look at the groups and from just glancing at it when I was setting up groups a while back I knew that I wasn't supposed to have just two groups09:23
jontecsomething?09:23
crimsunsudo adduser jontec adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip src video plugdev scanner09:23
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crimsunhmm09:24
jontecwill that kill my current account and all it's data?09:24
crimsunyou'll probably need to loop that09:24
crimsunno.09:24
jontecokay good.09:24
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crimsunfor i in adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip src video plugdev scanner; do sudo adduser jontec $i; done09:24
jonteccoz I'm still logged into the terminal as root09:24
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jonteck09:24
crimsunuse the for() command09:24
jontecjust the second command?09:25
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jontecokay, never mind I see the part at the end of the loop09:25
jontecoh, okay... I see what just happened. I though adduser added the user to the system, but it adds the user to each group... ahaha09:26
jontecI was wondering why it needed to be looped09:26
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crimsunnow you need to log out and back in09:27
jontecokay, can do09:27
crimsunthings should work properly afterward09:27
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abattoirnixternal: nice lecture, yesterday :)09:29
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jontecokay, sound works at least, I heard the startup noise09:29
jontecand there's no x09:30
crimsunright, that was all a permissions issue09:30
jontecokay, good ^_^ that definitely takes a load off09:30
crimsunyour external usb hd should mount, too.09:30
jontecit did, and kdesu works as well.09:31
jontecit looks like it's all back to normal. ^_^ wow. But more importantly I still have no idea how all of that happened.09:31
XVampireXIs it just me or KDE 3.5.4 faster than 3.5.2?09:32
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crimsunit seemed a bit snappier last I used it.09:33
XVampireXyay09:33
jontec...I need to upgrade KDE. I need to upgrade a lot though.09:34
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jontecThanks, crimsun I can now go to bed in peace.09:34
jontec!apache09:34
ubotulamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP09:34
XVampireXSo why's KDE faster than gnome?09:34
XVampireXvery noticeable nowadays09:35
jontecI hate gnome, or at least breezy ubuntu.09:35
XVampireXheh09:35
jonteconly form of gnome I ever used.09:35
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fritschI currently use the environment variables in /etc/environment http_proxy, https_proxy, ftp .... but I` d like to use the kde proxy settings, but also use wget etc. without specifing a proxy, is that possible? (changing the systemwide stuff on every shell when changing places is no very cool)09:38
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rikiohwhats a command to force close a program09:39
rikiohi need to force close firefox09:39
fritschrikioh: killall firefox09:39
fritschrikioh: or kill -9 $processid09:39
abattoirrikioh: or killall firefox-bin ... if that doesnt work09:39
rikiohfirefox-bin worked09:40
abattoirrikioh: or you could run 'xkill' and click on the window, to close it09:40
jontecokay, I have another question. Okay, I heard earlier that you had to install apache for php support, but it looks like the package is already installed?09:40
fritschrikioh: or clicking wildly on the "close" x helps, too09:41
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fritschjontec: php support?09:41
fritschjontec: you want programm in php09:41
fritschjontec: so you need to have a webserver which "interprets" it for you09:41
jontecthis is what apache does, I thought?09:42
jontecI just read the apache2-common and it said that I needed 'worker' which I requested for install09:43
fritschjontec: yes09:43
jontecI want to run it locally09:43
jontecphp that is09:43
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fritschjontec: yes, mmmh just apt-get install apache2 php (i think these meta packages should work)09:44
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fritschjontec: sorry09:44
jontec? about what?09:45
fritschjontec: apt-get install apache2 php509:45
fritschjontec: this installs all you need, you can then place files into your $HOME/public_html/09:46
fritschand connect with http://localhost/~youruser09:46
jontecdo you mean libapache-mod-php5?09:46
fritschjust php5, this is a metapackage09:46
jontecb/c 4 is already installed.09:46
jontecoh, gotcha09:46
fritsch5 grades it up09:46
jontecokay, thanks09:47
jontecI have to download the stuff now...09:47
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fritschjontec: good luck09:49
jontecshould the folder exist now?09:49
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jontecor will it be installed after installation, I mean does 4 have the same stuff?09:49
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jontecI'm running download while I'm sleeping and wanted to see what I could do right now before I sleep09:50
fritschjontec: no this folder does not exist09:50
fritschjontec: just create it mkdir -p ~/public_html09:50
fritschjontec: as "your user"09:51
jontecin the home directory?09:51
jontecokay09:51
fritschjontec: this commands make it automatically, for the "current user" which runs this command09:51
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fritschjontec: just a min (too much beer yesterdays)09:53
jonteclol09:53
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jontecokay, sweet it works, thanks! ^_^09:55
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francolqHello. This is an AMD64 Kubuntu Breezy. xine-check says my X server doesn't support YV12 overlays and doesn't have any XVideo support. I couldn't find out how to install these things. Can someone help me?10:06
crimsunwhich video driver are you using?10:07
francolqlet me see...10:07
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francolqvesa10:08
crimsunand which graphics card do you have?10:08
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_rince_mrgn10:10
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francolqHere it is.. On Board Graphic Processor S3 Graphics UniChrome Pro10:13
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crimsunI don't think there is a way currently for that chipset.10:13
francolqI remember that i tried to install the correct drivers long ago...10:13
TheGateKeeper!seveas > thegatekeeper10:14
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francolq:( well thank you anyway10:14
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crimsunhmm, the version in Edgy is even older than the latest release (0.2.5)10:16
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noiesmohave an old laptop and i think the on board sounds stuffed .  its sis based and there are errors/warnings in dmesg about ac 97 sound and trident4dwave audio how can i test it or is this not possible10:29
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zuidenwhat is the aptitude command to update the entire system??10:30
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leeghoofdzuiden: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade10:30
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zuidenthank you10:31
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MilhousePunkRockGood morning everyone!10:31
m`kayhow can i resize my monitor resolution???10:31
narvik86hello10:31
fritschm`kay: resize or change?10:31
TheGateKeepermorning MilhousePunkRock10:32
steveireany idea what language adept is written in?10:32
fritschm`kay: start krandrtray10:32
m`kaychange10:32
narvik86m`kay ctrl+ alt+ +10:32
narvik86m`kay ctrl+ alt+ -10:32
fritschnarvik86: :-) krandrtray i would prefer, acually because you know, where you are switching to10:33
Jucatosteveire: AFAIK, C++10:33
narvik86fritsch ok, i'm telling what i know  :-)10:33
damian_!edgy10:33
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule10:33
steveireI should see if I can find source code for it.10:33
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fritschsteveire: apt-get source adept10:34
MilhousePunkRock!schedule10:34
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule10:34
damian_!schedule10:34
steveirefritsch: Thanks, and where will it go.10:34
steveire?10:34
fritschsteveire: it downloads in you current directory10:34
narvik86to tray, near the clock10:34
leveldocI have a fresh install of kubuntu dapper here, should I upgrade KDE? I've read somewhere that some people had problems with it...?10:35
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steveirewill it make a directory10:35
steveire~/adept-source or something?10:35
fritschsteveire: mkdir -p build10:35
fritschsteveire: cd build10:35
fritschapt-get source adept10:35
XVampireXHi10:35
XVampireXI got a question10:35
XVampireXregarding kopete in 3.5.4 in kubuntu10:35
fritschsteveire: so verything in place *g*10:35
narvik86ok10:35
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steveirethat'll do. thanks10:35
XVampireXWas it compiled against jingle and does it have VoIP jingle support?10:35
XVampireXbecause so far I see only webcam10:36
bubbleshi10:36
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bubbleshow can i enable/install mod_alias and mod_env on apache2?10:36
steveirewhat does that p switch do?10:36
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fritschbubbles: a2mod $name enable10:36
steveiresorry, I see it10:36
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fritschbubbles: sorry a2enmod $NAME10:37
fritschbubbles: a2enmod mod_alias  && a2enmod mod_env10:37
bubblesroot@Timmy:/etc/apache2/mods-available# a2enmod mod_alias10:37
bubblesThis module does not exist!10:37
fritschbubbles: good, just start a2enmod10:37
bubblesthe same for mod_env :\10:38
fritschbubbles: there it lists all10:38
fritschbubbles: you have10:38
bubbles?10:38
fritschbubbles: just do a2enmod10:38
fritschbubbles: without argument, then you can read what modules are installed10:38
bubblesroot@Timmy:/etc/apache2/mods-available# a2enmod10:38
bubblesWhich module would you like to enable?10:38
bubblesYour choices are: actions asis auth_anon auth_dbm auth_digest auth_ldap cache cern_meta cgi cgid dav dav_fs dav_svn deflate disk_cache expires ext_filter file_cache headers imap include info ldap mem_cache mime_magic perl php5 proxy proxy_connect proxy_ftp proxy_http rewrite speling ssl suexec unique_id userdir usertrack vhost_alias10:38
narvik86where can i find mplayer fonts?10:38
fritschbubbles: don` t paste10:39
bubblessry10:39
MilhousePunkRockbubbles --> Pastebin10:39
steveirewell it's c++ alright...10:39
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fritschbubbles: yes, if you want others you probably have to compile10:39
bubbleshow?10:39
bubbleswhere do i get the sources?10:40
fritschbubbles: sorry don` t know10:40
bubblesk10:40
fritschwhat modules are these? not very common, or?10:40
bubblesdon't know10:40
fritschbubbles: try apt-cache search apache env mod10:41
fritschbubbles: which site suggests you to load them?10:41
Jucatosteveire: good luck! I hope you can contribute a lot to improve Adept10:41
bubbleshttp://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracCgi10:41
steveirewho knows. Can't give it a shot now though. There's exams afoot soon.10:42
abattoirsteveire: you are going to work on adept?10:42
Jucatoehehe!10:42
fritschbubbles: is this for apache2?10:42
bubblesyes10:42
steveireI want to hack it a bit. Nothing fancy10:43
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narvik86where can i find10:45
narvik86mplayer fonts10:45
Lynourenarvik86: googling didn't help?10:46
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fritschbubbles: do apache2 -l please10:47
narvik86i have installed mplayer-fonts but they arent in ~/.mplayer10:47
the-ermAnyone know off the top of their head if there are any repertories with apache2 mod_rewite?10:48
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Lynourenarvik86: if you installed them as a package, they are likely to be in some mplayer related systemwide directory. I don't use mplayer so no idea where, but either locate or find could find them for you.10:49
fritschbubbles: still there?10:49
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fritschbubbles: you don`t have to enable it, it is compiled in!10:50
the-ermnever mind ... it's installd.10:50
narvik86Lynoure ok, i found it :) thanks, in synaptic i choose properities and there is a path10:50
fritschbubbles: the alias ist installed by default, too10:50
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steveireis there a cls equivalent to clear the konsole?10:51
Lynourenarvik86: :)10:51
crimsunsteveire: clear10:51
m`kaymmmh. i think i need more software, what are good mirrors for dapper if i want some stuff like libdvdcss210:51
steveirechairs10:51
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fritsch!restrictedFormats > m`kay10:52
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serverihow to upgrade old version of ubntu to newer?10:52
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Lynoureserveri: which version to which?  In general, change repos to that of the newer one, then do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, but there are stepbystep instructions too floating aorund10:53
Lynoures/aorund/around10:53
m`kayfritsch: i know...10:53
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steveirewait a minute, clear doesn't actually clear the screen. It just scrolls down10:54
fritschsteveire: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades10:54
the-ermdoesn't it?10:55
the-ermAlways did before ...10:55
steveireem...10:55
the-ermweird.10:55
the-ermMaybe an ansi code is in order.10:55
the-erm\e[K ???10:55
Ace2007Hi again, how can i set it so that if the mouse is over a certain program, mouse wheel up and down will make kde give key strokes to it? like mouse wheel up = ctrl+5 ?10:55
the-ermI forget.10:56
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the-ermAce2007: That's a tough one.  I'd look up "kde mouse gestures" in google for starters.10:59
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leveldochi ppl, could someone tell me if it is safe to upgrade to KDE 3.5.4? I've heard that ppl had problems with it?11:00
Ace2007the-erm: Ok i'll give it a try11:00
fritschleveldoc: save11:00
leveldocthanks11:00
leveldocI'll do that then. :)11:01
fritschleveldoc: do a dist-upgrade11:01
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leveldocwill do so11:01
fritschleveldoc: it has to install some new libs11:01
leveldocok11:01
Jucatohas anyone experienced this in KDE 3.5.4: media:/ and the desktop no longer show unmounted partitions/disks, even when you mount them, even if they can be accessed through the /media directory11:01
leveldocthey say, never change a running system... but if it has bugfixes, I guess that makes it worth it, right?11:01
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fritschJucato: mmmh no11:02
Jucatoleveldoc: I think the saying was "if ain't broken, don't fix it", but bug fixes mean that something's broken, so fix it. right? :-D11:02
fritschleveldoc: good luck, what version are you running now?11:02
Jucatofritsch: that's strange...11:03
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fritschJucato: you are running 3.5.4?11:03
fritschJucato: could you file a bugreport on launchpad, with  a "howto reproduce it"?11:04
JucatoI upgraded to 3.5.4 yesterday11:04
JucatoI don't know how to reproduce something that isn't there...11:04
fritschJucato: and there exists this problem11:04
fritschJucato: ah! it` s fixed?11:04
fritschJucato: cool11:04
JucatoI mean, I don't see the unmounted partitions11:05
JucatoI don't even know what caused it11:05
fritschJucato: click System-Menue11:05
fritschJucato: sorry just have the german translations ...11:05
leveldocKDE v.3.5.211:05
fritschleveldoc: good 3.5.4 is better i think11:05
leveldocok11:06
fritschleveldoc: "better" :-)11:06
leveldocok, wish me luck11:06
Jack1hi11:06
Jucatoleveldoc: KDE 3.5.4 I think fixed the screensaver and kpager bugs, so if you use screensavers or kpager, better upgrade11:06
Jucatoleveldoc: good luck!11:06
fritsch:-)11:06
bnilsenHi.  A friend asked me to help set up his new web page.  I haven't a clue.  Is there a simple web publisher (other than the mystery of Open Office) that works right out-of -the-box? ...11:07
Jack1it says to me upgrade klamav to version 0.38 your version is outdated..when i do the next time i start the error message comes again!!11:07
Jucatofritsch: I upgraded smoothly to KDE 3.5.4 except for a small problem with KAudioCreator. It stopped there so I did a "sudo dpkg --configure -a"11:07
fritschJucato: yes this one make problems11:07
robbnilsen, try Nvu11:08
Jack1something into klamav?11:08
Jack1someone i mean11:08
Jucatofritsch: after the dpkg --configure -a, everything went smoothly again. but then the unmounted partitions disappeared.11:08
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Jucatofritsch: even when I mount them successfully and even if I can access them through /media/xxxx, they don't display in the media:/ KIO slave or on the desktop11:09
fritschJucato this is trange11:09
fritschyou changed some settings - here this is working11:09
Jack1can someone help with klamav11:09
fritschsorry have to leave11:09
bnilsenrob:  Nvu is new to me.  I have searched apt and Synaptic.  Where do I look?11:10
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robbnilsen, try searching for "nvu"11:10
Jucatobnilsen: Nvu is in the universe repostiory11:10
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rob!universe11:11
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource11:11
steveirecan grep do a not operation? grep "foo" -not "bar" hello.c to find lines with foo, but not bar.11:11
leveldocJucato: when I try to upgrade, it wants to install xmms .... !!???11:11
bnilsenrob & jucato.  Thanks.  I'll  try there again.11:11
robcool11:11
Jucatoleveldoc: would you happen to have superkaramba installed?11:12
leveldocnope11:12
leveldocit's basically a clean install, only KDE installed, not even one GNOME program...11:12
Jucatohmm.. I also remember that one upgrade did install XMMS. I just let it be installed11:13
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leveldocI have no choice anyways... but adding a 3.5.4 repo and then after a dist-upgrade have it install xmms just feels wrong. ;-)11:13
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JucatoI think XMMS was installed when I upgraded to 3.5.311:14
BazziRsome KDE things have weird optional dependencies to XMMS11:14
leveldocBazziR: it would seem so... but with amaroK, kaffeine and others, wouldn't it be time to remove them. :)11:15
JucatoActually, some Kubuntu stuff have weird dependencies on GNOME stuff...11:15
BazziRe.g. kopete I think11:15
leveldockopete... I knew it! ;-) lol11:15
BazziRyeah kopete has a plugin what song youre listening to... in XMMS.11:15
leveldocoh I lied about the not one GNOME program... I've got kino installed. Great program.11:16
BazziRJucato: such as?11:16
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JucatoBazziR: gnome-app-install11:16
Jucatoerr.. not that... wait...11:16
BazziR:o11:16
leveldocwell, kopete is a dependency of kubuntu-desktop, right?11:16
BazziRyah it is11:16
JucatoBazziR: I meant "app-install-data"11:17
leveldoclol, even my kpatience gets updated... I've never experienced ONE bug in that app11:18
Jucatoleveldoc: they don't only upgrade those apps that have bugs11:18
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leveldocit would seem so11:18
Jucatoit would be strange if kpatience version remained KDE 3.5.2, while the rest of KDE is 3.5.4, right? :-D11:19
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leveldocoh, so they update the "about dialogue"... ;-p11:19
Chousuke:P11:19
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Chousukeand you have to redownload the whole app just for that.11:20
leveldocwent through without a problem11:20
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Jucatothey have to update everything to make sure that everything still works with each other properly11:20
leveldocso, I'll be back in a few if everything went right... going to log out and back in again11:20
Chousukesometimes I wish they had binary deltas for upgrades.11:20
leveldocbrb11:20
BazziRyeah deltas are a nice invention11:20
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Chousukeat least to the previous version11:20
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ChousukeJucato: delta is usually used to mean "difference"11:21
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Chousukeor change.11:21
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Chousukeor something like that :P11:21
Jucatoooh...11:21
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JucatoBinary Delta Conversion?11:21
Chousukebasically, you'd just have to download what's changed, and nothing else11:21
Jucatoah I see11:21
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Chousukebut that might require some drastic changes to dpkg.11:22
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Chousukeit would be awesome though11:22
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Jucatobut when KDE releases a new minor release, they have to change/update everything to make sure that everything works/integrates properly right?11:22
Chousukeif you could have .deb-deltas :P11:22
leveldocok11:23
leveldocseems to have worked11:23
leveldoc:)11:23
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leveldocexcept all my icons on the right side of the task bar are in one row11:23
leveldocthey used to be in two rows11:23
Jucatoalmost like a change from Kubuntu 5.10 to 6.06, but less drastic11:23
leveldocwhich I liked better11:23
Jucatoleveldoc: you mean the system tray? Right-click on the panel and choose COnfigure panel11:24
Jucatothen for the size, choose Custom, then enter a value of 4811:24
Jucato48 is the smallest size that allows 2 rows of icons for the system tray11:24
leveldochey, thanks!11:24
leveldoc(you really got to know that... it wasn't obvious to me)11:24
Jucatoleveldoc: I discovered it through trial and error :-D11:25
leveldoclol11:25
leveldocthat's the way I discovered all in linux11:25
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damian_kubuntu ksucks11:25
Jucato....11:25
leveldocbut since canonical came along... I can actually depend on the howtos written out there :)11:25
Jucatoleveldoc: you could also try browsing through the forums for some other HOWTOs not found in the official wiki11:26
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leveldocJucato: well, I suppose I *could* and sometimes I actually do that but for the most part all questions are answered through the wiki / forums / irc channels11:27
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leveldocit is amazing what a community can do without having to rely on few "specialists" in call centers11:27
Jucatothat's one of the strenghts of Linux. You have a choice for your source of support: community/users or commercial support11:27
Jack1canone help me withit klamav please?11:28
Jucatoof course, the distro must offer commercial support before you can avail of it :-D11:28
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leveldocJucato: do you know by chance if theres a way to change the look of the message lists in kmail so that the info is displayed more like "outlook"? I hate to compare it, but just for a description it serves I guess11:29
huaymantah11:29
leveldocso that for example: subject (1st line) then author, date (2nd line)11:29
Jucatoleveldoc: are you talking about the columns? like Subject | Sender | Date??11:30
leveldocyes, for default they are ordered in columns, but I'd like to have them in lines11:30
leveldoc(rows)11:30
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JucatoAh... I'm afraid I don't have a clue as to what Outlook looks like. Kontact is the first PIM I've ever used11:31
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Jucatobut I did use Thunderbird for a very short time in Windows11:31
leveldocwell... imagine in bold the (unread) subject in the first row, then in the 2nd in smaller font the author and the date / time received11:32
leveldocit would just serve better for the screen that I have (16:10)11:32
leveldocif I want to see everything, the only choice I have I guess is to make the fonts smaller11:32
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berkout:)11:33
Jucatohmm... I'll try to see what I can find.11:34
leveldocI'll probably have to file it as a RFE11:34
narvik86RFE?11:34
leveldoc"request for enhancement" :)11:35
Jucatoaah. a wishlist...11:35
leveldocthe lowest form of a bug report... ;-)11:35
steveireWhy do people use programs like kmail/outlook/thunderbird?11:35
leveldocsteveire: why do people use their web browser for everything?11:36
Jucatosteveire: probably for a number of different reasons?11:36
steveireI open gmail, and there is my email. Why would I want a separate client for that?11:36
Jucato1. being able to download and read your mails on your computer11:36
Jack1who would choose opera over konqueror?11:37
Jack1opera having builtin irc and mail11:37
leveldocJack1: now *that* is a good question! :)11:37
Jucato2. being able to have the e-mail sent to you, rather than you going to Gmail (like an RSS feed)11:37
Jack1yes isnt it?11:37
Jack1leveldoc i am convinced more and more11:37
Jucato3. Not having to go load a webpage in order to check each and every one of  your mail.11:38
Jucato4. very useful if you have multiple e-mail accounts11:38
Jack1leveldoc can u help with the clamav?11:38
steveireI get notified when I get an email. What is th advantage of downloading it to my comp?11:38
Jack1offline use11:38
Jucatosteveire: you can save it. backup11:38
leveldocJack1: not really... I've only set it up once on a server... what do you need?11:38
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steveireMaybe if I used multiple email accounts I'd use one,11:38
Jack1leveldoc it notifies me that i got old version, then i upgrade next time same again11:39
Jucatodifferent strokes for different folks :-D11:39
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leveldocI think they also tell you to read the FAQ on their website, don't they? I remember vaguely getting an "error", but it also read: "Relax, read [URL] "... it turned out that it wasn't so bad after all..11:40
leveldocsorry I can't be of more help11:40
Jucatogotta go11:40
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Jucatodinner time11:40
leveldocbut I had that error too, it wasn't really an issue though11:40
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leveldocJucato: bye :)11:40
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narvik86how can i have icon of network connection in the tray?11:47
leveldocnarvik86: I use knemo11:48
leveldocI downloaded it from the German kubuntu.de repository server11:48
apexifiedCan someone help me think of a program that would be good for making and gathering (possibly organizing) notes, ideas, etc.?11:48
narvik86leveldoc, thanks I  will try11:48
leveldocapexified: "basket"11:49
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leveldocapexified: or knote on a more simpler basis?11:49
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aliasfredapexified: i use a wiki for that. mediawiki is my favorite11:50
apexifiedleveldoc: I'm using knotes, but was looking for something more... together. categories and such. labels.11:50
apexifiedsomething good for someone with ADD... which I *must* have ;)11:51
leveldocapexified: well, you might want to try "basket", it can organize files, notes, web pages etc and put it into an organized structure11:51
apexifiedty, for the suggestion11:51
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leveldocI think it's in the universe repository, but I'm not sure11:52
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evilmegamanhi just wondering, how do I get the bcm43xx module to not load at boot?11:52
apexifiedleveldoc: it is :)11:52
evilmegamanI want to use the ndiswrapper module instead11:52
Jack1is it in klamav sufficient to scan the /home directory or need all of them be scanned?11:54
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evilmegaman260 people and no one has responded yet :P11:54
leveldocJack1: it depends what you want to do. Is it a server? Your desktop?11:54
Jack1desktop11:54
leveldocI'd say it's enough to scan your homedir. :)11:54
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Jack1ok thx leveldoc11:55
leveldocbut again it depends on your security needs.11:55
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leveldocwhy would you want to have an antivirus installed on your desktop anyways?11:55
evilmegamanany one know how to get the bcm43xx module not start at boot?11:55
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narvik86try rmmod11:56
evilmegamanI did11:56
leveldocevilmegaman: man 5 modprobe.conf11:56
evilmegamanAh11:56
evilmegamanmodprobe.conf... thanks!11:57
leveldocthat would be my best guess11:57
leveldocno guarantee :)11:57
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|lostbyte|Good Mroning Guys..11:57
|lostbyte|Morning11:57
narvik86hello11:58
evilmegamanthere is no modprobe.conf :-/11:58
|lostbyte|narvik86, Hi.11:59
evilmegamanjust the modprobe.d directory11:59
|lostbyte|Any one here using dyndns ?11:59
narvik86no11:59
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narvik86I'm not using it11:59
leveldocevilmegaman: hey, found something11:59
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leveldocevilmegaman: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist12:00
evilmegamanAwesome thanks leveldoc12:00
leveldoc# This file lists those modules which we don't want to be loaded by12:00
leveldoc# alias expansion, usually so some other driver will be loaded for the12:00
leveldoc# device instead.12:00
evilmegamanOkay cool :D12:00
leveldocmaybe that works here?12:00
evilmegamanshould12:00
evilmegamanI will give it a shot ;)12:00
leveldoclet me know if it worked12:00
narvik86leveldoc, i installed knemo, how to start it?12:01
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leveldocunder the KDE Ressources, you can activate the service12:01
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leveldoc(System Settings - KDE Components - Services)12:01
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narvik86leveldoc thank you. now it is working :)12:02
leveldocI like it12:02
leveldocI've been waiting for something like this for a long time... under KDE, that is12:03
leveldocGNOME has it since at least three years12:03
leveldoc... ;-)12:03
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narvik86i'm stlli thinking about gnome...12:03
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leveldocI think KDE is integrated better... applications are actually working together. And let's not start about Printing under GNOME... ;-)12:04
narvik86maybe i should try, but KDE is really nice for me :-)12:04
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leveldocwell, I guess everybody has different tastes, so...12:04
narvik86i have knemo now, i have to stay :)12:06
leveldoclol12:06
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Jack1can someone tell me what is going on with klamav when it says:12:11
Jack1Dazuko was not loaded successfully. Please check your installation.12:11
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narvik86you need to load/install dazuko i think12:13
slow-motionhallo12:13
Jack1well if i wanna do that i get the message above12:13
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narvik86sorry, i dont know :(12:15
leveldocok guys, I'm off.. cya12:15
narvik86c u12:15
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the-ermanyone know what package kglobal.h is in?  I need it, and I've installed almost all kde devel files.12:18
narvik86http://developer.kde.org/documentation/library/3.0-api/classref/kdecore/kglobal_h.html12:19
narvik86maybe it will help12:19
the-ermI'll try.12:19
the-ermYup that's the header.12:19
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the-ermProblem is it should be in a package with all the others I need.12:19
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Teejay_wpI tried to do the sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin command12:20
narvik86which package?12:20
Teejay_wpI am using kubuntu 6.0612:20
the-ermthat's my problem.  ... is there a urmpf type command?12:21
the-ermurpmf searches all the files that are installed.12:21
Teejay_wpand it said Couldn't find package sun-java5-bin12:21
the-ermer ... all the packages that could be installed.12:21
JucatoTeejay_wp: try to check if you have multiverse in your sources.list12:22
the-ermTeejay_wp: I think you need the right respritory in your /etc/apt/sources.list12:22
Teejay_wpokay12:22
the-ermoosp sorry I didn't read that.12:22
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Teejay_wpI will what you said12:23
the-ermhttp://blog.the-erm.com/index.php/archives/170#more-170 // My source list is on that page.12:24
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the-ermOf course I'm just starting out with this distro.12:24
JucatoTeejay_wp: you might find this link useful: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu12:24
Jucatothe-erm: I might have something probably more useful for you. Try typing "apt:/" in Konqueror12:25
the-ermok12:27
the-ermI'll try that.12:27
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the-erm... odd it's installed.12:29
Jucatothe-erm: which is installed?12:29
the-ermkglobal.h12:29
the-ermthe dev file is there.  Just not being seen by the compiler.12:29
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Jucatooh...12:33
evilmegamanif I have gnome AND kde, will I be able to modify the menus seperately so I can get rid of kde apps in the gnome menus and gnome apps in the kde menu?12:36
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the-ermevilmegaman: don't quote me on it, but I think kde, and Gnome use 2 different files for their menus.12:38
the-ermI know for sure there is a ~/.kde and a ~/.gnome folder.12:38
evilmegamanyeah12:38
evilmegamanI guess I will just give it a shot12:38
the-ermSo the chances of gnome and kde having the exact same menu isn't likely.12:38
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Jucatoevilmegaman: I've had the very bad experience of hiding KDE menu entries in GNOME using Alacarte and they disappear in K Menu as well.12:39
evilmegamanOhh12:39
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Jucatothe-erm: unfortunately, they both seem to use ~/.locale for some menu entries12:39
evilmegamanjucato, so how do I remove the entries?12:39
Jucatodon't quite me on this, too. but that's just my observation...12:39
JucatoI did the only safe thing I could do. Move all menu items that I don't want to see in a single folder. :-D12:40
evilmegamanlol12:40
evilmegamanI will check #ubuntu.. maybe they have an idea12:40
Jucatothat's only in K Menu. I've given up changing things in Alacarte...12:40
evilmegamanI see12:41
Jucatooh, I think there's a small program in KDE-Apps that sort of does what you want12:41
Jucatolet me look it up12:41
evilmegamanOh really?12:41
evilmegamanOkay12:41
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Jucatoevilmegaman: try this: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=3103112:43
JucatoI can't verify that it works 100% though12:43
JucatoI just saw some people recommend it12:43
evilmegamanOh okay12:44
Jack1can opera in kubuntu get upgraded like eg kde or do i need to get all the installation file again and again?12:45
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JucatoJack1: probably the same way with other apps... wait till it gets updated in the repositories. it's the safest way I know of.12:46
Jucatoof course, since Opera is in the Ubuntu commercial channel/repository, a different rule might apply12:46
Jack1<Jucato>i just saw my cversion is outdated but in the resps nothing more up-to-date12:47
mehi.  i am trying out kubuntu for the first time.  i am familiar with redhat/fedora.  i     am   used to cervisia and kompare being part of the kdesdk.  i was playing with apt-get and then adept to install those two components.  in adept it is greyed out.  how would i install them?12:47
Jack1but i read u need to get the file full again and again12:47
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Jucatowell I'm not sure how Opera will be upgraded. It's not something like Firefox which has updates almost immediately available a few days after an upgrade from Mozilla is released.12:48
Jack1yes seems to be more complicated12:48
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player_hello there12:49
player_i am a newbie ubuntu user12:49
JucatoIt's even complicated more by the fact that Opera resides on a special repository of its own, a repository where we don't know the rules/process...12:50
mei am trying to install software via Adept.  how do i install something that is greyed out?12:50
player_can someone help me install firefox step by steo ?12:50
narvik86download and run ;)12:50
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narvik86i've downloaded ffox from website12:50
player_i have downloaded the tar.gz file12:50
narvik86unpack it12:51
Jack1however seems to be some good piece of work12:51
Jucatome: check if the universe repository is enabled. Go to the Adept menu and choose Manage Repositories12:51
player_after unpacking it what should i do next ?12:51
narvik86run firefox12:51
Jucatonarvik86: no need to do that, though. The repository has the latest Firefox version12:51
narvik86with local languages?12:51
Jucatoactually, -1 latest version12:51
narvik86i mean i have PL12:51
player_run firefox <--- how? i am a completely newbie here. actually this is the first time i saw this desktop12:51
Jucatonarvik86: aaah12:51
player_and is it ok if i un tar it anywhere ?12:52
Jucatodoes player_ need a localized version?12:52
narvik86for now its ok12:52
Jack1Jucato is there a way to edit the sources.lst to eg opera-latest to get the latest stuff?12:52
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narvik86don't know, player_ you can get it by repository12:52
JucatoJack1: I don't think so. Opera is on a special Ubuntu repository called the commercial channel. So updates would probably come from there.12:53
narvik86click on file firefox12:53
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narvik86brb12:53
player_click on file firefox <-- then ? i clicked it once nothing happened12:53
player_should i execute command shell ?12:53
knubbeJack1: opera has its own repositories.12:54
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Jack1<knubbe>yes i understand12:54
Jucatoplayer_: if you don't mind, since you're new, I would recommend you do it the easy way12:54
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Jucatoplayer_: if you don't mind, since you're new, I would recommend you do it the easy way first12:54
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player_if you don't mind, since you're new, I would recommend you do it the easy way first <-- whats the easy way ? lol i am a complete newbie and just finished first time installo f this OS12:55
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Jucatoplayer_:  in K Menu > System, launch Adept.12:55
player_please help me ?? whats the easy way ?12:55
narvik86from repository12:55
Jucatotell me when Adept is running already12:55
narvik86run adept12:55
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JucatoThen in Adept, type in "firefox" (without the quotes) on the search box so that anything with the word "firefox" will be displayed12:56
player_re:Jucato - i do not see adept anywhere12:56
intelikeyi just ooops'd    need a fs expert.    i have /dev/hdd with data on ext3fs   and  was running an installer on /dev/hdb when i noticed that it partitioned /dev/hdc also.... now i have a partition table on my file system   anyone know if this can be fixed or if i seriously need to back up the data that is there and reformat it ???12:56
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knubbejack1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser12:57
narvik86player_ k->system->adept12:57
Jucatoerr... K Menu > System sub-menu > Package Manger (Adept) ??12:57
mejucato - thanks!  i also just realized i was using Add/Remove programs instead of the "real" Adept12:57
intelikeys/hdd/hdc  ^      anyone knowledagable ???12:57
Jack1i just see that konquis x to blank the address space is extremely helpful and not available in opera12:58
Jucatome: no problem. I find the Add/Remove Programs to be quite... beta...12:58
player_i dont see it too12:58
player_lol12:58
player_do i have to install adept 1st ?12:58
meso if universe is enabled, i could apt-get install kompare ?12:58
narvik86player_ do you have kubuntu?12:58
Jucatoplayer_:  oh heck... just press Alt+F2 and type in "kdesu adept"12:58
player_i am using kubuntu right now ?12:59
Jucatome: yep12:59
narvik86player_ yes?12:59
player_yes i am using kubuntu12:59
meah.  that makes more sense than installing the kdesdk rpm ;)12:59
Jucatome: just don't forget to sudo update first after changing something in sources.list. :-D12:59
narvik86you have to have adept01:00
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JucatoAdept is installed by default01:00
player_hmmm ? i remember i tried removing some programs earlier01:00
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Jucatoplayer_: hmm... Press Alt+F2, and type in "kdesu adept" without the quotes01:01
player_<Jucato> player_: hmm... Press Alt+F2, and type in "kdesu adept" without the quotes <-- just tried this and it was asking me for a password01:01
Jucatogood01:02
Jucatoenter your password01:02
narvik86Jucato locales are also in repository :) my fault01:02
player_i entered my password and this appeared "Conversation with su failed."01:02
Jucatohmm...01:02
player_what does that mean ?01:03
narvik86player_ probably you will need to use a console01:03
player_ok01:03
intelikeyanyone know a safe way to delete that partition table ?01:03
player_i am at the console now01:03
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player_Konsole (Terminal Program)01:04
Jucatoplayer_: type in "sudo apt-get install firefox" (without quotes)01:04
player_what should i do next ?01:04
narvik86Jucato is faster :) follow him01:04
Jucatoerr... I just happen to be doing nothing right now01:04
narvik86i have broken collarbone :/01:04
Jucatojust waiting for the lines to scroll up :-D01:04
Jucatoooh... that's sad... :-(01:05
narvik86http://n86.cba.pl/pictures/!accident%20001_medium.jpg  bad quality but you can see this01:06
Jucatoplayer_: you mentioned you removed some programs earlier? what did you try to remove, and what happened?01:06
intelikeyok anyone know where i might find someone that knows ?01:06
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Jucatonarvik86: it is bad... :-(01:06
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player_lol01:07
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narvik86brb, eating :-)01:07
chicosanchezbuenos das!01:07
Jucatohehe!01:07
Jucatogood morning01:08
chicosanchezalguien en espanish ?01:08
Jucato(even if it's night time here in my place)01:08
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mei've been paying around for a bit with apt.  so i see apt-cache for searching/showing info on packages.  is there a way to dump a list of just what is installed?01:08
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mei see showpkg, but that doesn't seem     to be what i am looking for01:08
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bugoyhello i'm back01:08
bugoyi was the "_player" a while ago01:08
bugoy1st of all01:08
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Jucatome: do you need a printable list in plain text format, or just something you can view?01:09
bugoyhow do i get back the default layout of my kubuntu desktop ?01:09
bugoydefault taskbar and everything ?01:09
Jucatome: in Adept, you can check/uncheck the filter boxes so that it will only display installed packages01:09
Jucatobugoy: why? what happened?01:09
meoh, command line01:09
Jucatoaaah01:09
Jucatohmm...01:09
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Jack1if i want to add deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free01:10
meor is there a directory to ls or file to cat01:10
bugoyi dunno i just restarted this machine then suddenly01:10
Jack1to me sources list via synaptic01:10
bugoyall the icons on the taskbar are gone01:10
bugoyalso the clock01:10
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bugoy and the desktop selection icon01:10
bugoys01:10
Gumbycan anyone here tell me the directory structure of ubuntu's mirrors.  I am running amd64 but looking for a i386 package and cant seem to browse my way in a repo thus far01:10
Jack1do i have to add to channel ubuntu 6.06. binary or source?01:10
Jack1source right?01:10
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mesay i am testing someting on a machine on the internet, so i can use apt-get, etc.  then i want to configure another machine that isn't online.  so i want to be able to dump the files/dependencies to a CDROM and then bring the offline machine up to date with the same config01:11
JucatoJack1: just take note that the repository you are adding cannot be guaranteed to work 100% without any problems in Ubuntu, because it's an outside repository...01:11
Jack1well yes01:11
Jucatome: oh... I think that's beyond my current knowledge of Linux/Kubuntu... :-(01:12
JucatoJack1: it might also conflict with Ubuntu's version of Opera?01:12
mei know FreeBSD has packages and it leaves them in a common directory after installing them01:12
Jucatobugoy: this is a fresh install of Kubuntu, right?01:12
Jucatoah01:12
meso all deps get downloaded and the package directory can just be copied later01:12
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Jack1Jucato in the help it says01:12
Jack1deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main01:12
Jucatome: /var/cache/apt/archives/01:13
mehmm01:13
Jack1is as good as http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free01:13
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JucatoJack1: oh ok, if they said so...01:13
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Jack1however do i need to add it to channel source or binary01:13
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meah, so in theory i could copy the archives directory and then apt-get it on the other machine and it should just install it from cache?01:14
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JucatoI'm not sure about apt-get01:14
JucatoI'm not sure about "apt-get"-ing it01:14
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intelikeyme yes if the other box has the same repos setup.   yes.01:14
Jucatoyou could probably just use "dpkg -i"?01:14
rob_hello, when i add a mp3 from a smb share in my amarok playlist, amarok craches. Does anybody here know a solution to this problem?01:14
meah.  dpkg works with .deb files01:15
intelikeyme i do that a lot with apt   it works well.01:15
JucatoJack1: probably not anymore. the commercial channel contains more than just Opera01:15
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Jucatoah so apt-get can also work with single .deb files?01:15
meintelikey, should i copy the whole /var/cache/apt tree?01:15
meor just archives01:15
intelikeyjust archives.deb01:16
Jucatojust the archives/ as it's the one that contains the .deb files01:16
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intelikeyme you don't want to mix your package databases  that can get messy.01:16
mei guess because it knows the install states01:17
apexifiedi really like using topstyle, but i was wondering if anyone could suggest something similar...01:18
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mewell, this has all been very helpful.01:18
apexifiedor any other web design/development tools for linux01:18
intelikeythe databases keep track of what is installed and what's avalable     but the packages then selves in /var/cache/apt/archives/   (omitting ./partial)  is what you want to share.01:18
JucatoThere's Quanta, Nvu, and Bluefish for web design/development01:18
Jucatotake your pick :-D01:19
JucatoBtw, Quanta is the KDE app01:19
intelikeywell if no one knows anything about my fs problem i'll go now.01:19
Jucatointelikey: sorry I couldn't be of help. Filesystems scare the !@*% out of me...01:20
narvik86what do u want to do?01:20
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intelikeynarvik86 me ?01:20
narvik86intelikey yes01:21
intelikeyi just ooops'd    need a fs expert.    i have /dev/hdc with data on ext3fs   and  was running an installer on /dev/hdb when i noticed that it partitioned /dev/hdc also.... now i have a partition table on my file system   anyone know if this can be fixed or if i seriously need to back up the data that is there and reformat it ???01:21
digibre4k_i'm coming01:22
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narvik86i don't know how to undo those changes, tried qtparted?01:22
narvik86you can access this hdc partition?01:23
narvik86can you*?01:23
Jack1quoting01:23
Jack1: Opera eliminates01:23
Jack1sluggish performance, HTML standard violations, desktop01:23
Jack1domination, and instability.01:23
Jack1what is menat with desktop domination?01:23
Jack1meant01:23
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bugoyplease help me01:23
bugoyhuhuhuhuhu01:24
intelikeynarvik86 the partition ?    havent tried.  i have the fs mounted but fdisk -l reports the partition table.  that could lead to huge problems...01:24
bugoyi cannot install any program01:24
bugoyhere in myy kubuntu01:24
Jucatobugoy: I asked you if this is a very fresh install of Kubuntu and what programs did you remove earlier?01:24
bugoyeven flash player01:24
bugoyyes this is01:24
bugoya fresh intall sir01:24
narvik86intelikey so dont mount it01:24
bugoyand i removed some programs01:24
Jucatobugoy: what did you remove?01:24
bugoyi forgot01:25
Jucatoerr...01:25
Jucatohmm...01:25
bugoyanyway how can i go to the list of installed prgrams ?01:25
narvik86intelikey what is shown in qtparted??01:25
intelikeynarvik86 you dont see to follow me.   the disk is 3/4 full of data i don't want to loose.01:25
intelikeyseem01:25
Jucatobugoy: in Konsole, do this "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"01:25
intelikeynarvik86 the data is in a file system (ext3) on /dev/hdc  (whole disk)01:26
Jack1Jucato i get:  Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>=3:3.2.1) but it is not installable01:26
Jack1when i want to upgrade opera01:26
narvik86intelikey i don't know a lot about fs, maybe you can create image of hdc? if you have free space now, i don't want to waste your data01:27
intelikeynarvik86 but now the disk "ALSO" has a partition table.   i want to remove the partition tabel without damaging the fs.01:27
narvik86intelikey dd program01:27
JucatoJack1: hm... we don't seem to have that package available in the repository...01:27
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Jucatowe do have a libqt3-mt01:28
narvik86intelikey wait a second01:28
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Jucatoer wait...01:28
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intelikeyif i have any place that will hold the data.    let me search.     (i was hoping that backup was not the only option)01:28
JucatoJack1: what version of KDE are you on?01:28
Jack13.5.301:29
Jucatohmm...01:29
Jucatobugoy: what happened? did you try the command I gave?01:29
JucatoJack1: you're using the separate Opera repository right?01:29
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narvik86intelikey maybe you should try http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ bootable cd with a lot of tools, there should be some to remove/edit partition table01:31
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intelikeynarvik86 ok.  thanks  i'll look into that.    and thanks for the time of day.      sometimes it helps just to get an 'i dont know' answer   rather than being ignored....01:32
Jack1JUCATO YES01:33
narvik86intelikey i will boot from this cd and tell you01:33
Jack1jucato yes  do01:33
narvik86intelikey what tools are for you01:33
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intelikeyi can edit the partition table with c/fdisk01:33
jottintelikey: http://www.sleuthkit.org/ and http://e2salvage.sourceforge.net/ can be helpful01:34
JucatoJack1: and you are trying to install a version of Opera that's more up-to-date than the current version available in the Ubuntu commercial channel? It might be that the new Opera version is depending on a newer version of libqt3-mt that is not yet available in Ubuntu01:34
intelikeyjust not sure how well the fs will take it.01:34
narvik86intelikey but from cd, any data wont be mounted01:34
jottintelikey: additionally (but not for beginners) http://lde.sourceforge.net/01:34
intelikeyjott e2salvage   k01:34
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intelikeylde  hmmmmm01:34
intelikeylde - Linux Disk Editor   is in the repos01:35
Jack1<Jucato>i think so yes so no help01:35
jottbut there you should be into partition table and ext internal structures ;)01:36
intelikeye2salvage isn't....   hmm jott   thanks for the input there.01:36
JucatoJack1: unfortunately, I don't think I can be of much help... :-(01:36
Jack1no mate thats was good01:36
narvik86intelikey brb i will chceck ultimatebootcd01:36
mejucato, dpkg -l is the command line version of what i was looking for01:36
jottintelikey: the e2salvage site has also serveral links as it seems01:36
intelikeyyeah looking01:37
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Jucatome: it was that simple?!? lol! I don't use dpkg that much, so I guess I'm a noob when it comes to it's options.01:37
Jucatome: but how do you get it tolist only installed packages?01:37
meoh, that isn''t installed?01:38
jottintelikey: when you have the disk space i would dd out the whole disk so you can play around with it, without making more damage01:38
Jucatome: ooh. dpkg -L (capital L)01:38
Jucatome: scratch that... I'm still not sure...01:39
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mewell, dpkg -l kompare show me it01:39
medpkg -l cervisia doesn't find it01:40
mei never installed cervisia ye01:40
Jucatohmm...01:40
Jucatodpkg -l <package_name> is only supposed to show packages with that name. sort of apt-cache show <package_name>01:41
intelikeydpkg -l     lists all installed packages01:41
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JucatoJack1: you could probably just use an alternative method from the wiki to install Opera01:42
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mei am getting that apt is just a nice way to manage packages, but really just a sophisticated front-end to dpkg01:43
mekind of like yum was to rpm management on fedora01:43
Jucatoer.. apt is really a front end to dpkg. Adept, Synaptic, etc. are GUI front-ends to apt01:43
intelikeyme all the package managers in debian/*buntu are jsut frontends to dpkg = the debian package manager01:44
JucatoCLI front-ends to DPKG include Apt and Aptitude. GUI front-ends are countless...01:44
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raphael_Hello01:44
raphael_i have a question01:44
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Jucatoactually, Apt is CLI-based front-end for a package manager. If I remember correctly, some RPM-based distros use Apt because of it's dependency handling capabilities01:45
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raphael_My kubuntu is update and i can see Kubuntu 6.06.1 LTS when I halt my computer, and the question is: Is there iso of this version on the net?01:46
mesome of you may find this funny.  i'm using Windows XP using a VMWare client via WiFi connected to a FC4 VMWare server running Kubuntu01:46
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meand it all still works01:47
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Jucatoer.... XP ----> VMWare FC4 ----> VMWare Kubuntu??? that has just made my head spin... @_@01:47
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mei still never managed to get my USB bluetooth to go online with my cell phone, so i boot up in XP when i'm on the road01:48
methen i forget to go back to linux, esp because my firefox bookmarks are then on the wrong partition01:49
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bugoyhello there01:51
intelikeywell guys jott and narvik86    i think i have the answer now.   it seems that ext3fs is pretty stable.  the changes made externally to the first super block don't seem to be any real concern.  cause replaying the journal shows to keep that fs usable   i have removed the partition table and cycled mounting procedures the fs seems to be all intact.    thanks for the input sujestions and links.01:51
bugoyi'm back and i re installed everything01:51
bugoyi now see Adept01:51
bugoylol01:51
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jottintelikey: great!01:52
bimberime: just a thought - http://www.google.com/tools/firefox/browsersync/01:52
narvik86itelikey, yes, great01:53
narvik86itelikey, how did you remove partition table? :)01:53
intelikeyi sure had a dark brown taste in my mouth when i first saw that that installer had written a partition table on my storage fs....01:54
intelikeynarvik86 cfdisk01:54
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narvik86ok01:54
intelikeyi backed up the first major block of the disk and then did it,  so i could undo it if it hosed the fs.01:55
methanks bimberi.  that saves it on google's servers?01:55
bimberime: yes, i'd say so.  I've only heard of it myself - not used it01:56
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intelikeysomething jott said that made me think of it.    so i did a  dd if=/dev/hdc of=backup bs=8192 count=2       and went to work.01:56
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bugoycan someone give me a step by step procedure how to install the grapichs driver from nvidia.com for my inno3d MX400 vid card ? here in kubuntu ?01:57
intelikey!ati01:57
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto01:57
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intelikeybugoy that is said to be what you want ^01:57
intelikeyi've never used it.   don't need drivers.01:58
narvik86don't need drivers?01:58
JucatoI think I might have a more useful link01:58
Jucatowait01:58
bugoy<intelikey> i've never used it.   don't need drivers. <-- wow !? really ? thanks for the info01:59
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Jucatobugoy: you can also try this: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper <-- follow method 102:00
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intelikeybugoy if i need to clean that up a little for you.   i have an nvidia agp card but it is an old one and i don't think it even has any 3d ability so the  nv driver that comes with the distro and is installed by default is all i ever use.02:00
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JucatoI'm using Inno3D GeForce4 MX4000....02:01
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bugoyi see02:02
bugoyi'm using Inno3d MX400 64mb 64bit02:02
bugoydo you think i still need to install a driver for this ?\02:02
Jucatoonly if you think you're going to need 3D acceleration02:03
bugoyyes  i will02:03
Jucatothen go for it.02:03
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intelikeymine is like a thompson joint venture riva128  i think.   maybe agp X2  at the most.    so 3D is probably unheard of.02:04
intelikeyi wouldn't mess with it if it could do 3D   (not a gamer)02:04
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jottintelikey: it has 3d acceleration :) ... (back in old times quake1&2 ran like a charm with it ;)02:06
intelikeyreally.   hehhe  and only 16M on the card02:07
intelikeyi guess 16M was a lot back then02:08
londrinenseCan anybody help me get to know how much data I sent and received during my actual session?02:08
bugoyi cannot understand what the hell the tutorial says02:08
bugoyi am using kubuntu02:08
bugoyhuhuhuhuh can someone please help me install the nvidia driver ?02:08
Jucato32MB of RAM was big back then...02:08
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Jucatobugoy: ok let me try this..02:09
lackdiantHi, is it usual to have too many python processes in ksysguard?02:09
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bugoythanks Jucato02:09
lackdiantI have about 20 or 3002:09
Jucatobugoy: first open up Konsole02:09
bugoyok im gere02:09
bugoyherre02:09
Jucatobugoy: then type this "uname -r" (no quotes)02:10
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bugoyok02:10
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bugoy2.6.15-23-386 <-- this appeared ?02:10
bugoynow what ?02:10
Jucatook.. remember the "386" number02:10
Jucatothat's your computer architecture02:10
bugoyok02:10
bugoyok02:10
intelikeylondrinense sinfo.pl   that version  does a good job of reporting data transfer   it runs from the command line    or can spam an irc channel and get you kicked out...  :)02:10
Jucatoumm... wait a minute... before I go on...02:11
nanotubehello, how can I please make my ra0 network interface eth0?02:11
Jucatowhat kind of processor do you have btw?02:11
jottintelikey: http://developer.nvidia.com/object/RIVA_128_FAQ.html It's powerful 100MHz 128-bit architecture, capable of processing 5 GFLOPS and 15 billion operations per second, provides maximum 2D and 3D acceleration for every application, regardless of which CPU it's being processed on.  ;)02:11
bugoyamd Athlon XP 1800+ i think02:11
Tommyis there a fix for why kubuntu wont shut down it just stays on going to halt02:11
Jucatoer...02:11
Jucatoanyway, moving on...02:12
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bugoyok02:12
intelikeyjott so my 5$ vidio card was a bargan ?02:12
Jucatobugoy: type this in Konsole "sudo apt-get install linux-386" (no quotes)02:12
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jottintelikey: oh it was actually quite nice .... i used it for serveral years...02:13
Jucatobugoy: this will install everything related to the 386 Linux kernel, including the linux-restricted-modules that you need02:13
intelikey:)02:13
bugoyok02:13
jottintelikey: funny thing is, windows nt does not even support it ;)02:13
bugoyit said alot of intructions02:14
bugoytoo long to paste02:14
bugoyafter entering my passworf02:14
bugoywhat now /02:14
bugoy?02:14
Jucatoit asks if you want to install the packages right?02:14
bugoyReading package lists... Done02:14
Jucatobugoy: it asks if you want to install the packages right?02:14
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bugoyBuilding dependency tree... Done02:14
jordanhi02:14
bugoyThe following packages will be upgraded:02:15
bugoy  linux-38602:15
bugoy1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 103 not upgraded.02:15
bugoyNeed to get 23.4kB of archives.02:15
jordanI have install ati driver and have02:15
jordanXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".02:15
jordandirect rendering: No02:15
jordanOpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect02:15
bugoyAfter unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.02:15
bugoyGet:1 http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/restricted linux-386 2.6.15.24 [23.4kB] 02:15
bugoyFetched 23.4kB in 2s (9811B/s)02:15
Jucatoer....02:15
bugoy(Reading database ... 65279 files and directories currently installed.)02:15
bugoyPreparing to replace linux-386 2.6.15.22 (using .../linux-386_2.6.15.24_i386.deb) ...02:15
bugoyUnpacking replacement linux-386 ...02:15
bugoySetting up linux-386 (2.6.15.24) ...02:15
bugoythats what happened02:15
bugoyno it did not asked me anything02:15
Hotwirewww.pastebin.it02:15
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Jucatobugoy: do you see a small open box icon with a "!" sign, sitting in your system tray?02:16
bugoynow what ?02:16
bugoyyes02:16
Jucatothat's the Upgrade Notifier02:16
bugoysaying "There are 103 updated packages available"02:17
JucatoIt notifies you if there are Upgrades to be downloaded. something like the Windows Updater02:17
bugoywhat shoould i do w/ it ??02:17
Jucatoclick on it. it will ask for your password02:17
JucatoYou should upgrade first before installing drivers...02:17
bugoyok sir02:18
bugoycurrently updating02:18
Jucato:-D02:19
jordanXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".02:19
jordanenybody can help me ?02:19
jordanI'm reinstall ati driver and problem fix for 2h and come again02:20
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narvik86jordan: try with this http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide02:20
narvik86jordan first method works for me02:21
Jucatobrb.. out to buy a chocolate bar...02:21
narvik86:)02:21
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jordangoogle tell me " dri don;t installed". How to install them ?02:22
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narvik86jordan tried with http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide ?02:23
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jordannarvik86 I'm trieing now :)02:24
narvik86ok :)02:24
jordanjordan@jordan:~$ sudo aticonfig --initial Found fglrx primary device section Nothing to do, terminating.02:25
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narvik86jordan did you remove previous driver?02:25
jordanehh no so remove all and reinstal  ?02:26
narvik86remove and itnstall those02:26
jordanhow to fast remove all ?02:26
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narvik86it depend how it was installed02:27
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narvik86apt-get remove maybe, i'm not expert :/02:27
jordangive you link but this is pl ?02:27
bugoyhow can i make kubuntu show the lan connection status on the taskbas just like on windows ?02:27
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narvik86bugoy knemo02:28
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narvik86jordan what is pl ?02:28
jordanpoland ;)02:28
jordanpoland site02:28
narvik86yes, what link? :)02:28
jordanhttp://forum.ubuntu.pl/viewtopic.php?t=618302:29
narvik86jordan ,are you from poland?02:30
jordanso change xorg.conf - ati next use apt-get remove ?02:30
jordanyes im from poland :)02:30
narvik86ja tez :)02:30
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jordanchodz na prv02:31
narvik86ok02:31
bugoy<narvik86> bugoy knemo <-- whwre is this ?02:31
jordan[505]  Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )02:31
nanotubeja tez:-)02:31
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narvik86knemo, show you mine sources.list?02:32
jordanmusze sie zarejestrowac zeby uzywac prv ?02:32
narvik86bugoy ?02:32
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narvik86jordan tak02:32
bugoywha tdo you mean ?02:32
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shadeofgreydoes anybody know how to change the background and foreground and font colors in Kword?02:32
narvik86nanotube jest nas coraz wiecej :)02:32
narvik86bugoy you need to install knemo02:33
nanotubenarvik86: I just understad polish but can not write:-)02:33
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narvik86nanotube where r u from?02:33
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nanotubenarvik86: slovakia... my girlfriend is polish:-)02:34
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narvik86nanotube, it's not so far :)02:34
nanotubedzieky bardzo :-)02:34
nanotubeno it is not:-) however we aro not in europe at the moment:-)02:35
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narvik86nanotube, holidays? in what language you are talking?02:36
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nanotubethis is fantasctic: The following NEW packages will be installed: ifrename , The following packages will be REMOVED: hal lvm-common lvm2 mdadm pcmciautils ubuntu-base ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-standard udev .. what is it?02:36
jordannarvik86 gdzie mam sie rejestrowac nie rozumiem :/02:37
jordannie uzywam IRC wogle02:37
nanotubenarvik86: yep 5 years holiday:-) trying to write somethink in polish:-))02:37
nanotubejordan: tak02:37
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stephencan any tell me if there is an irc channel for compiz02:38
nanotubejordan: what are you using?02:38
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nysosymis it possible to have preview in konqueror of movie files?02:38
narvik86jordan, napisz cos fo mnie na prv, tam ci sie komenda pokaze02:38
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Jucatonysosym: yes02:38
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shadeofgreydoes anybody in here know how to changfe the colors of kword02:38
shadeofgrey?02:38
jordan Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )02:38
Jucatoright-click preview in....02:38
jordantakie cos mam :/02:39
nanotubestephen: join #compiz02:39
nysosymJucato: sure, but i mean a miniatur of every movie in konqueror02:40
stephencheers nanotube02:40
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nanotubestephen: there are just 2 members , but it exists :-)02:40
Jucatonysosym: oh... I've never gotten video to work, but I do hear the sounds of the movie when I place my mouse over the video file02:40
jordannarvik86 nom oki02:41
jordanZRIOBIONE ALE dalej nie moge pisac02:42
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narvik86nanotube: what do u mean "5 years holidays", you are living together?02:42
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nanotubejordan: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration02:42
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nanotubenarvik86: not 5 years we are together for 2 years.. we meeet in AUS02:43
slow-motionre02:43
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jordannarvik86 jordan juz zarejestrowany pisze wiec jakie zarejestrowac np jordan_ albo jordan88 ?02:44
narvik86to Twoj nick, sam wybierz ;)02:45
nanotubejordan: :-)02:45
jordannarvik86 to jakies pojebane :)02:46
jordandobra powiedz mi jak z tymi sterami02:46
jordanco mam zrobic02:46
jordanhow to change nick ?:)02:47
bgrimmDoes anyone have any links to a NEC LCD Driver that might work for the Multisync 90GX (I did not find one in the deault install, and nothing on the forums).02:47
dr_williswhats the max res for that lcd?02:48
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nanotubeis anyone here running vmware-player? how do I make it use my ra0 instead of eth0?02:50
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bgrimmdr_willis: native res is 1280 x 104002:51
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dr_willishmm.. ya sould be ble to select generic lcd and that res then.02:54
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digibre4k_i have problem with send a email?02:55
digibre4k_do you can help me?02:55
nanotubenarvik86: Ok... see you dude..I'm going to sleep:-)02:55
digibre4k_somebody please help me?02:55
narvik86what time?02:55
narvik86ok good night02:55
dr_willisya could start by clarifying the problem.  digibre4k_  - but i doubt if i can help much at all.02:55
nanotubenarvik86: 23.00:-)02:56
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digibre4k_if i send a email it's take much..much..much...time...why?02:56
narvik86nanotube so good night :)02:56
dr_willisdigibre4k_,  try a different email program.02:57
nanotubenarvik86: :-) thanks... g'day to you!02:57
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digibre4k_hey...hey...hey..don't go!02:58
digibre4k_i still have problem send email here...02:58
dr_willis0_o02:59
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narvik86change email client :) that was a solution03:01
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jordan_88dr_willis how to recover xorg.conf from backup03:02
jordan_88?03:02
BluesKajHowdy folks03:02
dr_willisjordan_88,  cp /path/to/backup  /path/to/originak/xorg.conf03:03
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cwraigey03:03
BenBBhello03:03
jordan_88orginak = orginal ?03:04
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BenBBI can't get the package updates for kubuntu, isp problem?03:04
BenBBthe respritories i mean03:04
dr_willisthey have been sluggish lately03:04
BenBBsorry i'm a noob with linux03:05
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BenBBall the connections just time out03:05
cwraigtry antoerh mirror'03:05
BenBBwhere do i go to find a list of mirrors?03:05
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cwraig!mirror03:05
ubotuUbuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive03:05
digibre4k_change email client?can you explane again!03:06
digibre4k_please give me a examples!03:06
narvik86use other program, if you are using client, in example Thunderbird try kmail03:06
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dniproSalut03:07
narvik86hi03:07
dniprooup it is english room03:07
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dniproI lost my control panel03:07
dniprokicker ?03:07
dr_willisjordan_88,  wherever ya copied the origianl to.03:07
BenBBThanks guys, i have been having problems with my shit isp, not connecting to websties, i have to reload like 5 times03:07
digibre4k_soy my english is bad :(03:07
dniproNo menu, and nothing on my desktop03:07
dniproHow to recover it ?03:08
cwraigthats ok good luck03:08
digibre4k_sory my english is bad :(03:08
BenBBI should have a bitch at them, might be a dns problem i think03:08
dr_willisdigibre4k_,  fire up an alternative email client and see if the same problems exists with those.03:08
cwraigyea i guess so03:08
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dniproI lost my menu !!!!03:08
visik7!kernel03:08
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild03:08
cwraigcause if they fucked up their routing it would be a huge prob03:08
digibre4k_how make send email more fast?03:08
digibre4k_on kubuntuk03:09
dniprohello ?03:09
dniproy a quelqu'un ?03:09
narvik86dnipro have you restarted x system?03:09
dniproia kekkin03:09
cwraigdigibr4k> how fast is your net connection03:09
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dniprono only the session03:09
ken_fallondnipro: Are you running kopete ?03:09
dniprono03:09
dniproI am running konversation at the moment03:10
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dniproI tryed to install new theme but it is better to have default one than nothing03:10
cwraigdigibre4k> maybe this will help http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/08/02/local-dns-cache-for-faster-browsing/03:10
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dr_willisdigibre4k_,  you need to trouble shoot to find out why its slow.  If its just slow with One email client, bit not others. then its a client problem. If they all are slow. then you got some other problem.03:10
dniprowhat is kicker ?03:11
ken_fallondnipro: Consider switching back to the old theme03:11
dr_williskicker is the name of the KDE panel.03:11
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cwraig!kicker03:11
ubotuI know nothing about kicker - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu03:11
BenBBopen source animation programs?? Can i get a free version of macromedia's flash03:11
dniproI tryed but I have the old theme but no menu03:11
dniprono task bar03:11
narvik86flas player - yes03:11
BenBBFor creating them not playing them03:12
dniproI never expect loos such thing03:12
cwraighttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox03:12
dnipronow I use gnome03:12
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BenBBI know there is some ability in SVG03:12
dniproshall I uninstall and reinstall kicker ?03:12
BenBBok, what i meant is flashmx, or flash8 so i can animate03:12
narvik86http://f4l.sourceforge.net/03:14
narvik86BenBB http://f4l.sourceforge.net/03:14
dniproI lost that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kicker_%28KDE%2903:14
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narvik86maybe, sudo apt-get install kicker  ? i don't know :/03:16
dr_williskicker should be part of the kde base packages I would guess.03:17
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narvik86there is:"kicker" in repositories03:17
BenBBthats awsome, i didn't know you could have flash on linux. Might have to try it at school since we are open source focused03:17
ken_fallontry dpkg-reconfigure kicker03:17
narvik86BenBB ther is another one but i don tremeber its name03:18
dniproOK I 'll try first I try to reinstall it : uninstall will uninstall lot of packages !!03:18
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prabhuhello all03:19
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jordan_88narvik86 nie dziala :/03:20
dnipro_Hello again I found my control panel again : I reinstall kicker03:20
narvik86musi dzialac03:21
dnipro_thank you all of you03:21
jordan_88dziala dziala :)03:21
dnipro_Now I will not try to install new theme with bash install03:21
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bugoyok now all the updates are done03:32
bugoywhat do i do next ?03:32
bugoyhow do i install the nvidia driver here on kubuntu ?03:32
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ccc_!nvidia03:33
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto03:33
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bugoyi can't understand that lol03:33
bugoycan someon give me a step by step ?03:33
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Jucatobugoy: how about the one I linked to03:33
dr_williswhats not to understand? its about 4 lines you cut/paste03:33
dr_willisand perhaps a simple edit of 'nv' to 'nvidia'03:34
bugoy<Jucato> bugoy: how about the one I linked to <-- what do you mean ?03:34
ccc_that is a step by step...03:34
amichttp://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper03:34
ben_I can't get my updates working, i use "sudo apt-get update" in konsole and get time-outs, click fetch updates in adept and get an error. WTF?!?03:34
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dr_willisamic,  now THAT one is more complex. :P03:34
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dr_willisben_,  server issues perhaps03:34
ben_I have tried drifferent mirrors03:34
ben_yea it never got the security updates on install03:35
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jordan_88lib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".03:35
jordan_88direct rendering: No03:35
jordan_88OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect03:35
jordan_88what's problem ;/ /03:35
JucatoI just realized that the guide for Binary Nvidia only has instructions for Ubuntu....03:36
dr_willisinstall synaptic, and poof there ya go. :P works with jubuntu03:36
dr_willisKubuntu03:36
ben_Well hopfully i will get these updates fixed and be able to install proper software like opera :)03:36
Jucatodr_willis: of course, but wouldn't it be nice if they actually had a Kubuntu guide?03:36
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jordan_88dr_willis extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0" can you help me /03:37
jordan_88?03:37
dr_willisJucato,  would of been Nicer if they just used the shell. then it wouldent matter. :P03:37
narvik86the bad is Mesa!03:37
narvik86and direct rendering should be yes03:37
dr_willis'fire up the manager and search....' vs.. 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx'   :)03:37
dr_willisthey need to organize that howto a little better03:38
prabhumy java doesnt seem to be working in any of my browsers.. what do I do..?03:38
Jucatodr_willis: of course, but not everyone wants to use the command line always, right?03:38
ben_as a windows user i find the command lines a pain in the ass03:38
dr_willisJucato,  vs the confuising directions they got.. its much simpilier and to the point03:39
bugoyin th ekonsole03:39
dr_willisits a pain to cut/paste... wow.. :P vs  being told how to manipulate a gui. :P03:39
bugoywhy does when i am promped to enter my password03:39
bugoyi cannot type anything03:39
dr_willis'clck over therem then over here.. then find this menu item that may or may not been moved...'03:39
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dr_willis:)03:39
ben_I want to get off this windows micro$hit stuff :)03:39
Jucatodr_willis: but that's how some people are used to do stuff03:40
bugoyagter typpping this sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx03:40
dr_willisJucato,  MS-Lemming-Zomvies!  :P03:40
prabhu! java03:40
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository03:40
ben_I am going to bed all, goodnight03:40
Jucatowell, we can't exclude them from our "target" audience right?03:40
narvik86gn803:40
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Jack1hi03:40
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Jack1how can i increae font size of webpages in opera AND store that??03:41
Jack1increase03:41
dr_willisYou Educate them.. Im sick of this "bend over backwards for total-beginners that dont want to learn, then  have them yell "do a blackflip to boot!"  and then they get mad if you dont hand hold them.03:41
dr_willis:P03:41
dr_willisand yes that  NVIDIA howto needs work.03:41
Jack1until now i only used view->zoom03:41
dr_willisits rather vague and  odd in ways.03:41
Jack1cant find in the prefs03:41
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bugoynow i'm intsalling nvidia drivers03:44
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bugoy how do i know now after install if the driver is really installed ?03:45
bugoywheres the computer managaement ogf kubuntu ?03:45
dr_williswhen you restart X - you see a nvidia logi03:45
dr_willisLogo03:45
Jucatodr_willis: unless he installed linux-restricted-modules, I don't think he's going to be happy...03:45
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dr_willisWell the howto says to do that. :P03:48
dr_williswhich is why we are back to the 'they need to show the shell commands, so you can install them from the console' :)03:49
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bugoyok i'll be right back03:49
bugoywill restart now03:49
bugoythanks03:49
Jucatogud luck...03:49
Jucatodr_willis: or they could also provide documentation for Kubuntu, too03:49
dr_williswhich would have the same problem. :P03:50
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dr_willisrepkace the word synaptic with adept. :P there ya go.03:50
Jucatodr_willis: except that Adept has a different interface than Synaptic03:50
dr_willisconsidering how many times people get referred to that URL. ya think they would have it done a little better03:51
Jucatoand installing Synaptic in Kubuntu adds another level of unnecessary complication03:51
dr_willisStep #1   sudo apt-get install synaptic03:51
dr_willis#2 - continue below. :P03:51
dr_willisI perfer synaptic to adept myself.03:51
JucatoI prefer synaptic, too. But I doubt the Kubuntu devs would want that. :-D03:52
dr_willisand  i perfer the apt-get or apatitude03:52
JucatoI vote for aptitude03:52
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dr_williswho wrote adept anyway? :P the ubuntu guys or the offical kde guys?03:52
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slow-eatingre03:53
player_ok03:53
JucatoPetr Rockai. He's a KDE dev, but so far, Adept has only been included "officially" in Kubuntu03:53
player_i dont see any nvidia icon03:53
Jucatoso I'm guessing he's a Kubuntu dev?03:53
player_but the installation says its done03:53
player_is there any way i can see if its installed or not ?03:53
Jucatoplayer_: not an nvidia icon, but a sort of very short NVIDIA splash screen03:53
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bugoyok i didm't see that03:53
Jucatobugoy: type this in Konsole: glxgears03:54
bugoyis there any other way to know ?03:54
dr_williswhat kind of monitor?03:54
dr_willissome times the logo flashes real fast.03:54
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narvik86glxinfo | grep direct but i'm ati user03:54
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dr_willisand you dont see it.03:54
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bugoythis is what is says03:54
bugoyXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".03:54
bugoyError: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual03:54
Jucatohmm...03:54
bugoydoes that mean it is not installed ?03:55
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dr_williscould mean theres some glx issue.03:55
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dr_willisYou did edit the xorg.conf file?03:55
Dromendoes anyone know whether ajunta supports stepping through the code and if not an ide which does?03:55
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debankurHow to configure locales in kubuntu dapper.03:56
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bugoyok now how do i install firefox03:56
debankurit seems that sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales is not able to reconfigure it03:56
Dromenbugoy:03:56
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Dromensudo apt-get firefox03:56
debankurbugoy : sudo apt-get install firefox03:56
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Dromenah03:57
Dromenwhat debankur said ;)03:57
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debankurcan someone help me to configure the locales ?03:58
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narvik86debankur maybe try "sudo apt-cache search kde locale" and look for yours04:04
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debankurI tried to reinstall locales but that doesn't help .04:05
narvik86debankur sorry, i don't know how to help You :(04:07
debankurnarvik86 : that OK . :)04:07
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bugoynow that firefox is installed ? how do i run it ?04:08
djclue917firefox04:08
narvik86debankur did you choose you language in system settings-> regionality04:09
asimondebankur: I guess qt-language-selector is not what you're searching for?04:09
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djclue917bugoy: run kbuildsycoca to "refresh" menus04:09
berkesdoes anyone here know a nifty way to split files into chunkos of x (700) MB? I need to find a way to get my backups on several CDroms easier.04:09
debankuryes.04:09
djclue917bugoy: then you'll see Firefox in K Menu -> Internet04:10
JucatoIs this a Kubuntu-only bug that the K Menu isn't refreshed automatically when something new is installed?04:11
bugoywoahh cool!04:11
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byrotsome programs are refreshed automatically, but firefox isn't04:12
djclue917Jucato: that's actually the problem now. and i don't know when it started happenning.04:12
asimonberkes: The command line tool 'split' can do that. i.e. something like 'split -b 700M myfile prefixfor_splittedfiles'. To put them together 'cat prefix_forsplittedfiles* > mywholefile'04:12
Jucatofirefox isn't the only one. a lot of other programs don't automatically show up in K Menu04:12
Jucatodjclue917: AFAIK, it has been like that since Breezy.04:12
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djclue917Jucato: in Hoary, the menu refreshes automatically.04:12
seikonunglaublich04:13
Jucatodjclue917: they do? always?04:13
djclue917Jucato: yeah, i think so too.04:13
berkesasimon: sounds cool.04:13
bugoywhat yahoo messenger should i downlaod ?04:13
djclue917Jucato: well, as far as I can remember. It's been like over a year now.04:13
Jucatobugoy: you can use Kopete04:13
berkesasimon: any idea if there is a frontend for that too? maybe even for k3b?04:13
djclue917bugoy: YM for Linux is so out-of-date04:13
JucatoKopete can handle YM, MSN, IRC (but use Konversation instead...), etc.04:14
bugoywhat is kopete ?04:14
djclue917bugoy: multi-protocol internet messenger04:14
JucatoKDE's Instant Messenger client04:14
bugoyahh ok04:14
Jucatoasimon: asimon from Ubuntuforums?04:14
bugoyi saw it04:14
djclue917bugoy: it's like YM, but of course, much much better. ;-)04:14
asimonberkes: quite possible, but I don't know one.04:14
asimonJucato: yes04:14
debankurasimon: I can't fing the package qt-language-selector04:14
Jucatocool! Fenyx from Ubuntuforums here...04:15
asimondebankur: the package is called 'language-selector-qt' but the binary is named 'qt-language-selector'04:16
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narvik86berkes Krusader has got split files option04:17
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bugoywhats the command to run the yahoo messenger setup ?04:17
djclue917bugoy: what do you mean?04:17
bugoyand how do you know the command to run an installation ?04:17
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bugoyi have downloaded the setup file of YM .rpm04:17
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bugoyhow do iu run it04:18
djclue917bugoy: You should've downloaded the *.deb04:18
djclue917bugoy: RPMs are for RPM-based distros like Fedora, Red Hat, SUSE, etc.04:18
bugoyok04:19
bugoygot it now04:19
djclue917bugoy: You should've downloaded this: http://download.yahoo.com/dl/unix/ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb04:19
bugoyyeah got it sir04:19
vikkehello, I was wondering if there is any more package than build-essentials i need to compile?04:19
djclue917bugoy: ok.04:19
djclue917vikke: compile what?04:20
bugoyhow do i log in as root now /04:20
bugoy?04:20
vikkedjclue917: right now i was going to compile dekorator04:20
djclue917bugoy: you don't need to. you can use "sudo"04:20
djclue917bugoy: sudo dpkg -i ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb04:21
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djclue917vikke: you need the kde devel packages. just search those in adept since i'm not sure about the package name.04:21
bugoyhow do you guys know what commands to use.. lol04:22
djclue917vikke: and the qt3 devel packages.04:22
djclue917bugoy: uhm, we asked them too? :)04:22
bugoylol04:22
vikkedjclue917: oki, thanks04:22
djclue917bugoy: when we were still noobs of course.04:23
djclue917bugoy: you're from the Philippines right? :)04:23
asimonvikke: dekorator is some kde thingie, right? In that case you almost certainly also need kdelibs4-dev, which are the development files for the kde libraries.04:23
bugoywhats the command again to refresh the kMenu ?04:23
bugoyyes i am04:23
bugoyhow did you knew ?04:23
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djclue917bugoy: kbuildsycoca04:24
bugoywas it because of my ip ?04:24
djclue917bugoy: I did a whois lookup on your IP address. :D04:24
Jucatolol!04:24
bugoylol04:24
vikkeasimon: ah righth, seems like i missed alot :P, thanks04:24
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bugoyyou guys are fun to chat w/04:24
djclue917bugoy: I'm from the Philippines too BTW... :)04:24
Jucatothat's why your nick sounds familiar (kabayan!!)04:24
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bugoyo wish i can meet you guys someday04:25
bugoylol04:25
Jucatodjclue917 and bugoy: bakt wala kayo sa #ubuntu-ph?!?!04:25
Jucato:-D04:25
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asimonvikke: If something is still missing, you'll get some error message during the build process, which should show what is missing.04:25
bugoylol04:25
bugoymga pinoy pala kayo04:25
bugoyhahaha04:25
bugoyasl jucato ?04:25
JucatoI wish they updated the dekorator package in the repositories... or at least in backports04:25
djclue917Jucato: wala e. haha di ako tumatambay doon. anyways, back to topic. :)04:26
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Jucatoerr no asl's here. :-p04:26
bugoylol04:26
djclue917Jucato: AFAIK, backports still haven't released any packages.04:26
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Jucatodjclue917: well, considering it's only been 2 months...04:27
bugoypano ko nama npo install yung flash plyer ?04:27
Jucatoer bugoy, you'd probably get more answers in English :-p04:27
bugoylol04:27
bugoyhow do i install flash player now ?04:28
edisavguys, i noticed that firefox 1.5.0.6 was released yesterday, but adept doesn't show it. Do you know when this will be available?04:28
JucatoIt was only released yesterday? give 1-2 days more04:28
Jucato:-D04:28
djclue917edisav: that's because it will take time before Ubuntu-security releases it04:28
bugoyhmmm04:28
bugoyi just installed tha tright now ?04:28
djclue917bugoy: wait a sec.04:28
djclue917:)04:28
bugoyfirefox 1.5.0.604:29
edisavyes, i understand that. I'm new to kubuntu and wanted to have an idea how long it takes for the team to release the new package04:29
djclue917bugoy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats04:30
Jucatoedisav: depends on how fast they can work on it04:30
narvik86did you get it to: about:kitchensink or this is extension which i have? type it in firefox04:30
djclue917bugoy: you'll learn a lot in reading that. :)04:30
Jucatodjclue917: I also recommend starting to read those kind of help/guide04:30
Jucato:-D04:31
Eeyorejust make sure you get enough b12 and protien via beans, lentils, etc on vegan04:31
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djclue917bugoy and edisav: I suggest you read the Kubuntu documentation.04:31
bugoylol ok but no time for that because of work lol04:32
bugoyi wish i coul04:32
bugoyd04:32
bugoyjust trying this out04:32
djclue917bugoy: oh ok. haha04:32
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Jucatobugoy: but sometimes it's just easier following the instructions there, instead of waiting for answers here04:32
Jucatosometimes...04:32
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Jucatoyou could also save the page for offline viewing04:33
bugoyi get your point04:33
djclue917Yeah I agree with Jucato. :)04:33
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bugoythanks for the help by the way04:33
JucatoI've never realized how confusing it is on an IRC support channel... @_@04:33
cwraigjoin /#irc04:34
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djclue917yeah.. considering the number of people simultaneously chatting.04:34
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SurgerMy kubuntu dist-upgrade has broken. I tried "apt-get dist-upgade" then "apt-get -f install" and neither work.04:37
nrdbdoes anyone know if ubuntu supports any large format scanners (e.g. A3)?04:37
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djclue917Surger: dist-upgrade from Breezy to Dapper?04:38
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Surgerdjclue917, Yes04:38
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SurgerI'm now sitting with 601 packages not installed and a broken system.04:39
djclue917Surger: have you installed any custom packages? like newer versions of a certain KDE apps?04:39
SurgerNope04:39
SurgerIt crashes on some Open Scene Graph package04:39
SurgerTwo packages have the same file and it bombs apt-get out.04:40
djclue917Surger: you might wanna remove the "problematic packages" manually and then re-install using the updated packages.04:40
SurgerOk. apt-get -r   ?04:40
asimonSurger: before trying something else I would try 'sudo aptitude -f dist-upgrade', sometimes aptitude handles updates issues which apt-get fails to handle.04:41
djclue917Surger: whatever it takes. :D04:41
SurgerOk. aptitude is a console app?04:41
asimonSurger: Yes04:41
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SurgerOk great - because I can't get into KDE and half the daemons won't run. :)04:42
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djclue917nrdb: what particular scanner? brand name?04:42
Surgerbbl (hopefully) :)04:42
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nrdbdjclue917: any I am looking at availability I have purchased anything yet.04:43
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XVampireXHi04:45
XVampireX[16:45]  <XVampireX> I have a bug too04:45
XVampireX[16:45]  <XVampireX> But it's related to the right click menu04:45
XVampireX[16:45]  <XVampireX> It won't open immediately, I have to click multiple times on a file/folder/etc...04:45
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djclue917nrdb: well i'm not really sure about scanners.. sorry.04:45
XVampireXJust pasting from another channel what I wrote :P04:45
nrdbdjclue917: ok.04:45
ymlhello, I have just formated the windows' partition of my laptop and I would like to know there is a tool to mount it automatically at startup04:45
XVampireXNeed help with that04:45
XVampireXyml: ntfs?04:46
XVampireX!ntfs04:46
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse04:46
luke_hello, how can i set KDm back to default?04:46
ymlor should I manualy go in fstab (if I remember well to define it by hand)04:46
DevGetHi all! I have problem with my trash, it doesn't works, when I move files to it, the files come back to its orginal position agian04:46
ymlThank you ubotu04:46
XVampireXyml: right...04:47
djclue917yml: it's a bot. :)04:47
asimonnrdb: Maybe http://cdb.suse.de/ is of help. It's a database of hardware which is compatible with SUSE Linux, everything there should also be compativle with Ubuntu...04:47
XVampireXyml: Yeah, it's a bot, grr04:47
ymlXVampire yes it it was ntfs04:47
ymlvery good that bot  :-)04:47
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djclue917yml: you should thank XVampireX. :)04:48
XVampireX:P04:48
nrdbasimon: thanks i am looking at it now.04:48
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ubuntuHola04:49
ubuntuhay  alguien ??04:49
XVampireXHola04:49
ubuntupregunto  vamos04:49
XVampireXHmm04:49
ubuntunecesito ayuda04:49
XVampireXDon't know language04:49
djclue917luke_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm04:49
ubuntucon el KUBUNTU04:49
asimonluke_: Try System Settings->Login Manager, there press "Administrator Mode". Then use the 'defaults' button in the lower left. Never tried it, but it sounds as if it would do what you want04:49
ubuntuni idea  como va esto joer04:49
ubuntuque lio04:49
XVampireXportugese?04:49
XVampireX!languages04:50
ubotuI know nothing about languages - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu04:50
djclue917luke_: i think i've misunderstood your query. sorry. :)04:50
ubuntuno espaol04:50
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XVampireX!es04:50
ubuntuyo soy espaol04:50
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:50
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ubuntuubunto-es04:50
luke_djclue917 no worries, thanks for helping tho =)04:51
ubuntu#ubuntu-es04:51
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luke_asimon thanks =)04:51
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luke_djclue917 actually thats what i wanted to do, thanks =)04:52
djclue917luke_: oh.. that's funny. haha04:53
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djclue917luke_: i thought i've misunderstood what you said.04:53
luke_djclue917 nah i just didnt word it properly =/04:53
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damian_!mimetype04:54
ubotuI know nothing about mimetype - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu04:54
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damian_what's a mimetype04:56
ymlXVampireX> I had a look to diskmounter but it seems that it is useful to mount windows or mac partition04:57
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XVampireXyml: yeah04:58
ymlXVampireX> This is not what I want to do I have formated my ntfs partition and replaced it by an ext204:58
XVampireXSo what do you want to do?04:58
bugunuhello, could anyone tell me if gam_server is installed by default in kubuntu 6.06 ? it seems kde and most depend on it, and it is using a lot of CPU time04:58
ymlWhat I want to do is mount automatically my new ext2 partion04:58
abattoirdamian_: from what i understand, it specifies what type/format a file is in; it exists as a header in a file, so for eg. text/html would mean its a html file04:59
XVampireXyml: just a sec04:59
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ymlagain the bot04:59
XVampireXyml: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions04:59
XVampireXIt's the same link05:00
XVampireXJust follow it05:00
XVampireXIt does exactly what you want to do05:00
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ymlI am on it05:01
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ymlI have run the "diskmounter" but it does not have modified the fstab05:03
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SurgerThanks whoever it was who helped me with the apt-get problem. At least I'm back into KDE now. :)05:03
XVampireXyml:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountNtfsOnBoot?highlight=%28mount%2905:03
djclue917hey Surger. everything's fine now?05:04
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SurgerYeah thanks djclue91705:04
ymlXVampireX> I do not have ntfs partition anymore my problem now is about mounting a ext2 partition05:04
Surgerdjclue917: Just have to sort out my nvidia drivers (custom kernel) but I know how to do that.05:04
XVampireXyml: huh, it should be mounted05:05
XVampireX!mount05:06
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks05:06
ymlNow I have the feeling you understand my pb05:06
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ymlXVampireX> Yes this:  sudo mount /dev/hda2 /media/hda2 is working fine also it not adding the partition in media:/<someName>05:12
XVampireXhehe05:12
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Doodluvi get this everytime i try and compile something:05:19
Doodluvhecking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp05:19
Doodluvconfigure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check05:19
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abattoirDoodluv: do you have build-essential installed?05:21
abattoir!info build-essential05:21
ubotubuild-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In repository main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB05:21
Doodluvhmm..ill check05:22
Doodluvdo i dont, im installing now05:22
Doodluv*no05:22
Doodluvthanks everybody05:22
abattoirDoodluv: it works?05:23
Doodluvabattoir: well it got past the last05:23
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Doodluvabattoir:  X... configure: error: Can't find X includes.05:23
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boldiihi05:24
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abattoirDoodluv: you'd need an x-devel package for that... wait i'll give the correct package name05:24
boldiiI want to install the new 3.5.4 kde but something creates depencies on some gnome libs which I don't want. What can I do?05:24
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abattoirboldii: on which gnome libs?05:24
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ymldoes someone could explain me how "media:/" is working in konqueror? I do not understand How I can add a partition there?05:25
Doodluvabattoir: xorg-dev?05:25
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abattoir!info xorg-dev05:26
ubotuxorg-dev: the X.Org development libraries. In repository main, is optional. Version 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 (dapper), package size 9 kB, installed size 36 kB05:26
abattoirDoodluv: yes...05:26
Jucatoyml:  media:/ is just an easy way you could access partitions thathave already been created05:26
Jucatoyml: you don't add partitions there.05:26
Doodluvabbattoir: im doin it now05:26
jarleyml: I think that new partitions (like usb-drives) are mounted under media: automatically...05:26
abattoirDoodluv: after this, you might be asked for qt-dev and for kde headers05:26
Doodluvheh05:26
boldiiabattoir: gnome-mime-data libavahi-compat-libdnssd1 libavahi-glib1 libbonobo2-0 libbonobo2-common libgnome2-0 libgnome2-common libgnomevfs2-0 libgnomevfs2-common libgnomevfs2-extra05:26
abattoirDoodluv: make sure you have those installed too(if you are building a KDE package that is)05:27
boldiiand some more of which I do not know if they are gnome-specific.05:27
Jucatomedia:/ allows you to view, browse, mount, unmount already existing partitions05:27
Doodluvabattoir: yup it is...05:27
Doodluv=] 05:27
Jucatoboldii: do you have some GNOME apps installed? Like the GIMP?05:27
boldiiJucato: no.05:27
Doodluvabbattoir: what pkg is the kde headers?05:28
Jucatohmm05:28
abattoirboldii: i just tried gnome-mime-data... and libavahi-glib1... i have neither of those installed...05:29
abattoirboldii: i have 3.5.4, btw...05:29
boldiistrange. dist-upgrade wants to install those.05:29
boldiiabattoir: how can I find out which packages gives me these depencies?05:29
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abattoirin fact there was an effort to remove certain gnome-ish(:P) dependencies05:30
abattoirboldii: hmm, there is a command... wait, i'll look it up05:30
abattoirboldii: maybe(as Jucato said) it is some other gnome app? rather than KDE 3.5.4 ?05:32
Jucatoprobably some app that has some GNOME dependencies: synaptic, gimp, etc...05:33
ymljucato, Jarle: I understand what you are explaining I am mounting my ext2 partition in /datastore but I would like to display it also in "media:/"05:33
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abattoirbut i have gimp though, and didnt need those packages05:33
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ymlI find it very convenient to access all the mounted partion from there05:33
boldiiI looked through the list of apps which should be updated but I can't find anything that looks like gnome.05:33
Jucatoi just said "maybe" :-D05:34
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Jucatoyml: if you have created a partition and a mount point for that partition, it will automatically be visible in media:/05:34
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Jucatowhether or not it is mounted.05:35
ymljucato: it is not automatically visible  in media:/05:35
ymljucato: my partition is mounted05:35
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Jucatowhat version of KDE are you using right now?05:36
boldii3.5.305:36
Jucatoyml: what version of KDE are you using right now?05:36
boldiioh, ok :D05:36
Jucatoer sorry bout that boldii05:36
ymlI am using kubuntu05:36
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ymlJacoto : KDE release 3.5.405:37
boldiiabattoir: have you found the command?05:37
abattoirboldii: hmmm... maybe someone at #ubuntu might know about the command05:37
boldiiok, I will check that.05:37
Jucatoyml: that's the problem. there's something wrong with media:/ in KDE 3.5.405:37
Jucatoyml: I'm also experiencing that same problem05:38
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ymlJucato > This is a bad news05:38
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Jucatoyml: worse news: so far we seem to be the only ones experiencing this.05:39
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abattoirJucato: nope, i have that too, but it is not consistent05:39
Jucatook, that makes us three05:39
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boldiimaybe I should'n upgrade to 3.5.4 :D05:40
abattoirJucato: i sometimes see only 1 out of 4 mounted partitions, sometimes see all(like now)05:40
abattoirboldii: well, people have said there is a speed increase.. ;)05:40
abattoirJucato: and someone else was complaining about it too...05:40
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ymlJucato: it is very easy to reproduce05:40
Jucatoboldii: and some bugfixes too05:40
boldiiok.05:41
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ymljucato what I did is removing an existing windows partion and replaced it by an ext205:41
Jucatoyml: I didn't even do anything... :-D05:41
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JucatoAll my unmounted partitions don't show. Even when I mount them. But I can still access them through /media/hdXX05:42
ymlwhat you are telling me is that konqueror is dynamically loading the partion list and display it in media:/05:42
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Jucatowell, in KDE 3.5.3 and earlier, media:/ will show you all your partitions, mounted or unmounted.05:43
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Jucatoit will also show you devices and CDs that you put in05:43
Jucatofrom there, you can right-click > Mount/Unmount/Eject/Safely Remove them. and their icons will change to reflect their status (mounted/unmounted)05:44
ymlthis is exactly what I like with it05:44
gnomefreakHawkwind: you here?05:44
Jucatowell, there seems to be a problem with it in Kubuntu + KDE 3.5.405:44
ymljacoto: does the mount point is important? or can mount them anywhere?05:45
ymldo you have an idea where we could report that pb?05:45
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ymlbugtraker somewhere?05:45
Jucatoyou can mount them anywhere you like as long as there's a folder (mount point) for it. but most of the time, you just put all mount point in /media05:45
JucatoI hate having to report bugs... :-(05:46
ymlok my question is there a relation between "/media" and "media:/"05:46
Jucatowell I'm not sure if it's a bug, if it's a Kubuntu-only bug, or if it's a general KDE bug...05:46
Jucatoyml: direct relation? probably not05:47
Jucatoyml: I think media:/ is more directly related to fstab than to /media05:47
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ymlJucato: ok i understand05:48
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jontecI want to package a bunch of shell commands into a program, any pointers on how to get started?05:49
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jotti guess it has to do with "Make media:/ mount devices over HAL. Fixes bugs 50185, 105482, 108823, 114854, 120619, 121833 and 127788. See SVN commit 550578."05:50
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jottso maybe its a hal issue of dapper.. (like access rights)05:50
Jucatojott: I guessed so, too.05:51
Jucatoso it's a Dapper thing, huh...05:51
boldiiI can't find something that really depends on these libs just a recommendation by launchpad-integration. really strange ...05:51
Jucatounfortunately, I can't test it on any other KDE distro, since I've got my drive full with Kubuntu and MEPIS @_@05:52
jottdon't know... just a blind guess ... i think hal config is the key to this problems..05:52
Jucatojott: I remember that there was an almost similar problem before, where media:/ was completely empty...05:52
Jucato hmm...05:52
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boldiihow can I prevent this launchpad-integration from being wanted to be installed? means how can I remove the depency?05:53
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BluesKajhmm, how do i get FF to open urls in the t-bird email prog instead of konq ?05:53
boldii(without building new packages)05:53
jottbut i am not that into hal so i can't tell you what to do ;)05:53
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ymljott: what is hal?05:54
BluesKajI've looked everywhre to change the default browser settings but thsi situation has me puzzled05:54
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jottyml: hardware abstraction layer05:54
Jucatohmm... I may have an idea..05:54
Jucatobut I have to restart05:54
matlechi05:54
ymlok Jucato05:55
ymllet us know05:55
Jucatosure. I'll be back ASAP05:55
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jotttry "hal-device" it seems to dump out all the devices with some settings05:56
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vikkehi, I was running a test, then the ALSA sound didnt pass, is that a big problem? what do i do to fix?05:59
Philip5yml: is it a usb drive you are having problem with ot just media in general?06:00
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agresorchecking tk build dir... using tk library in /usr/lib06:00
agresor./configure: line 2972: /usr/lib/tkConfig.sh: No such file or directory06:00
Philip5vikke: check that you have your sound cards drivers loaded06:00
agresorguys.. i cant compile amsn 0.9506:00
agresor:(06:00
ymlPhilip5> no it is an ide hardisk06:01
Philip5yml: oh06:01
agresorwhat is this.. tk shits..:(06:01
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uniqagresor: why do you want to compile it rather than install from archives?06:02
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agresorit have an old amns06:02
agresor:)06:02
agresornot newest version06:02
uniq0.95 is the newest right?06:02
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agresoryes06:02
vikkephilip5: where do i do that?06:03
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agresoruniq,  any idea how to install it /06:04
uniqagresor: what version of kubuntu do you use? amsn 0.95 is in the dapper archives.06:04
agresori use brezzy06:05
uniqagresor: ok. hang on..06:05
Philip5agresor: you need the tk dev package06:05
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lisihello, I have iPod 60 photo that is corectly mounted, but my amarok 1.4.1 dosent mount it.06:06
agresorPhilip5,  what is exacly name of package to apt-get it06:06
agresor?06:06
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jucatodidn't work06:06
uniqagresor: have you seen this? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=472411&postcount=106:07
jucatoI thought if I added the user to the haldaemon group...06:07
agresorapt-get install tk8.0-dev06:07
agresor;] 06:07
jottjucato: http://www.redhat.com/magazine/003jan05/features/hal/ looks very interesting...06:07
jott(not really to solve your problem directly but to understand hal better ;) .. just started reading06:07
jucatoI vaguely remember an issue before with KDE 3.5, where nothin except Floppy and CD's showed up in media:/06:08
BluesKaj!default browser06:08
ubotuI know nothing about default browser - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu06:08
BluesKajhate that factoids site ...it sucks !06:08
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mioemihello people06:09
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BluesKajhi mioemi06:11
jucatostrange... there's no more "hal" group in Kubuntu?06:11
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uniqjucato: have there ever been?06:11
mioemihello people06:11
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jucatouniq: in Breezy :-D06:12
mioemihi blue06:12
boowenHi06:12
narvik86hi06:12
boowenComo instalo el Synapse06:12
uniqjucato: followed the hal user, i guess.. i actually have the user on one of my machines too. :) haven't reinstalled since hoary.06:13
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jucatocorrection.. I meant hal user...06:13
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jucato:-D06:13
gnomefreak!es06:13
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.06:13
boowenGracias06:14
uniqjucato: still investigating the media:/ issue?06:14
jucatoyeah06:15
uniqany answers so far?06:15
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Hawkwindgnomefreak: I am now06:16
gnomefreakHawkwind: i found it now but ty ;)06:16
jucatonone...06:16
jucato:-(06:16
jottjucato: to trace down if its an hal issue do a "lshal | more" and search for your device to see if its properties are reasonable06:16
gnomefreaknot unless you know an easy way to find cheap flights06:17
gnomefreaklol06:17
Hawkwindgnomefreak: Expedia.com ?06:17
jottjucato: i guess something like "volume.fsusage='filesystem'" and thinks like that should be there..06:17
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jucatoquick question, what does the adm group do?06:17
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jottsounds like ADMinistration ;)06:18
uniqjucato: allows you to administer stuff. :)06:18
jucatoand what does the admin group do?06:18
mioemihas anybody used or now any application like autocad?06:18
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abattoirmioemi: qcad06:18
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uniqjucato: members are allowed to read spesific logs and such.06:18
mioemiabattoir, qcad right?06:19
Jucatoah ok. thanks06:19
abattoiryup06:19
mioemihow can i get it downloadded?06:19
Jucatook, still clueless on the media:/ issue06:19
jottits in the repository06:19
jottif you want something "commercial" you could look at variocad ...06:19
jottJucato: you looked at the lshal output?06:20
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abattoir!info qcad06:20
ubotuqcad: A professional CAD System. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.0.4.0-1-2.1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2872 kB, installed size 12564 kB06:20
Jucatojott: wonder how I'm gonna interpret it...06:20
jottJucato: you found your device entry thats not showing up in media:/ ?06:21
abattoirmioemi: if you have universe enabled, all you have to do is 'sudo apt-get install qcad' in a terminal, or install it using adept(or your preferred package manager)06:21
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mioemiok06:21
Jucatoerr...06:22
mioemiI will do just that now06:22
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Jucatowait, it's a very long list...06:22
abattoirBluesKaj: you tried setting it through kcontrol?06:22
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jottJucato: do "lshal | less" and then /hda1 or something (/ to search)06:22
krautmoin06:24
Jucatoreading...06:24
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ymlJacoto:06:26
ymlAre you there?06:26
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Jucatoyml: yeah06:26
ymlI get it working06:26
jottwhee whats it?06:26
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Jucatonope06:26
JucatoI'm analyzing the log...06:27
Jucatoit's driving me nucking futs!06:27
ymlThis is the pb i do not know exactly but I can tell you what I did06:27
ymlopen "system settings"06:27
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ymlgo in "disk and filesystems"06:28
hustla__how can i schow the PID?06:29
abattoir!classroom06:29
ubotuThe Ubuntu Classroom is a project which aims to tutor users about Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu through biweekly sessions in #ubuntu-classroom - For more information visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom06:29
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ymladministrator mode06:29
jotthustla__: pidof?06:29
shadeofgreyhey06:29
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shadeofgreyhow do i iuse te mouse to select multiplemessages        in kmail?06:30
hustla__prog ID06:30
abattoirThe current topic for this session of the classroom is basic IRC usage.... interested persons can look up the wiki and join #ubuntu-classroom...06:30
Jucatoshadeofgrey: Ctrl+Click?06:30
ymlJacoto then I have restarted my computer06:30
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shadeofgreyyeahn but thats just one by one right?06:31
shadeofgreyi need to select like hundreds of messages at a time06:31
jottshadeofgrey: shift+click? ctrl+a?06:31
Jucatoshadeofgrey: click on 1, then shift+click?06:31
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hustla__i need to show the current running programms .. how can i do this?06:32
Jucatoor if those hundreds of messages have some similar parts (sender, etc), you can type in the filter, then Ctrl+A06:32
Jucatohustla__: press Ctrl+Esc06:32
hustla__in the commandline06:32
jotthustla__: ps06:32
hustla__sry06:32
Jucatohustla__: "ps aux"06:33
hustla__ah .. thanx06:33
jotthustla__: man ps .. for options ps auxw will probably server well ;)06:33
jottserve06:33
JucatoI give up... I need to sleep...06:33
Jucato(midnight over here)06:33
Jucatothis media:/ issue is annoying... :(06:34
ymljucato: did you try the recipe I gave you?06:35
Jucatoyml: not yet...06:35
Jucatotoo sleepy... :-(06:35
Jucatogud night!!06:35
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ymlgood night06:36
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zeredhi everybody06:36
eshadowhello06:36
zeredfor my culture, can we upgrade from kubuntu dapper to kubuntu edgy ?06:36
zeredI have found a command to do that from ubuntu06:37
Hawkwindzered: You can, but it's risky06:37
zeredHawkwind: hi. Yes I know. My linuxbox it's a testbox06:37
zeredHawkwind: how can you do that from kubunut ?06:37
Hawkwind!upgrade06:37
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.06:37
zeredHawkwind: ypu mean i type "sudo upgrade" ?06:38
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Hawkwindzered: Read the URL's and you can probably figure out how to do it from dapper to edgy06:38
zeredHawkwind: ok.06:39
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eshadowI am new user of kubuntu 6.06. I just finished installation and have one question.06:40
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uniqzered: i do not recommend upgrading to edgy at this time, especially not if you expect a usable system for day to day use. edgy is in development and will break.06:41
Hawkwindeshadow: Ask away06:41
uniqzered: i strongly recommend to wait until it's released.06:41
eshadowI want to install KNode so I do KMenu->Add/Remove Programs06:41
zereduniq: Hi. I understand this. It's a test box. If it's too ugly I'll reinstall all from DVD06:42
eshadowI found KNode there, but it is gray and I can not check the checkbox. Why it is grey?06:42
abattoir!info knode06:43
ubotuknode: KDE news reader. In repository universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 1176 kB, installed size 2916 kB06:43
Hawkwindeshadow: Have you enabled all of your sources like universe/multiverse ?06:43
abattoireshadow: knode is in the 'universe' repository...06:43
abattoireshadow: like Hawkwind said, make sure you have enabled it...06:43
abattoir!repos06:43
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource06:43
eshadowNo i just enabled Main and Restricted.06:43
abattoireshadow: enable universe and multiverse in the same way...06:44
eshadowI will change this. Thanks.06:44
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abattoireshadow: i.e, add 'universe multiverse' to the same line containing 'main restricted'06:44
abattoireshadow: also make sure the distribution is 'dapper' rather than 'dapper-backports'06:45
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uniqzered: ok, just giving the double warning so you don't break your primary desktop. good luck then :)06:45
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zereduniq: Thanx for your advices ! I like test news. But I have another computer with stable OS !06:46
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zeredsomeone plays americas'army with kubuntu ?06:51
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boohi06:55
narvik86hi06:55
eshadowOk, it is working now fine. Thanks for help.06:56
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narvik86somebody plays nexuiz with kubuntu?06:57
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eshadowI'am only curious why it is not in the main or restricted sources since it is defaul usenet reader for KDE?06:59
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binarykungfuAnyone running using open vpn as a road warrior conection under kubuntu?06:59
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narvik86ok so tell, what games you are playing with kubuntu?07:09
muslimHI all07:09
narvik86hi07:09
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muslimi have big problem with kubuntu07:09
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zerednarvik86: Hi. I try to play america's army but I don't have sound07:10
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muslimmost programs such as Opera,Firefox etc. can not access Internet07:11
muslimcan any help me07:11
muslim?07:11
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narvik86zered i actually can't play shooters, because i have broken left collarbone07:11
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zerednarvik86: sorry, what is collarbon ?07:11
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narvik86zered bone in my left arm07:12
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muslimmost programs such as Opera,Firefox etc. can not access Internet!!!07:12
narvik86muslim did you install firewall ?07:12
zerednarvik86: ok. ;-) I want try games on linux to erase my XP07:12
muslimno i did not07:12
narvik86muslim ping is working?07:13
muslimyes its working good07:13
narvik86zered ati user or nv?07:13
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narvik86muslim email client is working? irc also right?07:13
ccc_zered: AA dropped their linux support for version 2.6, and there's not many 2.5 servers left. sadly.07:13
muslimi can access net from konquer07:13
TheHighChildWould anyone know why konqueor removed the addressbar?07:14
muslimyes working good also07:14
TheHighChildrather, what happened to it and how can I get it back? if anyone knows07:15
abattoirTheHighChild: upgraded to 3.5.4?07:15
TheHighChildyeah07:15
TheHighChildI  guess, I did a apt-get update07:16
TheHighChildnvm, I did add the repo for Dapper on this machine07:16
abattoirTheHighChild: ok, try deleting ~/.kde/share/config/konquerorrc and ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc07:16
narvik86try settings, configuration bars ( idont have english kde_07:16
abattoirTheHighChild: backup those files if you need them first07:16
abattoirTheHighChild: and also close konqueror before doing it...07:16
zerednarvik86: ati user (perhaps a ill card...)07:17
zeredccc_: hi. Oh what a pity ! Do you know why ? Defense secretary is a friend of Gates ?07:17
muslimnarvik86 Do you have any idea?07:17
narvik86zered, try warsow, tremulous, nexuiz(for me the best, but works bad with my ati)07:17
narvik86muslim, thinking07:17
muslimOK07:18
ccc_zered: possibly :) no, there was this single guy who did the porting win>linux, and it was too much work. they actually dropped support further back, and he couldn't keep up.07:18
narvik86muslim you can try to reinstall opera for example and check again07:18
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abattoirzered: heh. am reminded of 'Southpark - Bigger, Longer and Uncut' :P07:18
narvik86muslim did you do any upgrades ?07:19
muslimno07:19
narvik86muslim when it's broke?07:19
zerednarvik86: thanx I not this.07:20
muslimApt-GET can not access net most of time07:20
narvik86muslim you have wlan?07:20
muslimso i can not update07:20
zeredabattoir: sorry for my english. You speak about what ? ;-)07:21
BluesKajHow can I make FF my browser exclusively? ...konq launches when I click on a url in T-bird07:21
muslimwhat "wlan"?07:21
zeredccc_: ok. We change to UT200407:21
zeredor 200707:21
TheHighChildthanks alot abattoir, that did the trick. Had to kill the preloader and whatnot. thanks a lot, I was freaking out07:21
narvik86muslim you have wifi card07:21
muslimno07:21
abattoirBluesKaj: i asked you if you tried setting it through Kcontrol...07:21
abattoirTheHighChild: cool :)07:21
damian_or 200707:21
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narvik86muslim are you in lan? or connectted by isp?07:22
muslimi am using Lan card to access net07:22
BluesKajoh sorry ...I was awy for quite a while ...strong wind , minor emergency here so i missed you reply07:22
muslimLan07:22
narvik86muslim dhcp?07:22
BluesKajthx abattoir, i'll try that07:22
abattoirzered: its kinda offtopic, but Southpark is a popular american cartoon, and in its 'movie version', there is an incident involving a defence general and Bill Gates...07:22
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muslimyes07:23
abattoirBluesKaj: Kcontrol->KDE Components->Default Applications(????)->Web Browser07:23
narvik86maybe try to restart eth, for other ip?07:23
narvik86brb07:23
uniqrestart to get new ip?07:24
uniqthat's overkill, isn't it?07:24
zeredabattoir: ok, thanx for this american culture moment. We have southpark in France but I had'nt saw it07:24
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narvik86restart ethernet connection07:25
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uniqmuch betteR :)07:25
SkrotHi. When trying to change my picture in kcontrol -> Security & Privacy -> Password & User Accound, kcontrol says "Your administrator has disallowed changing your image" -- how can I change that?07:25
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abattoirzered: hehe, its from the movie :P ... and I drop out off this conv. before i'm kicked for being off-topic ;)07:25
abattoir*out of07:26
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aztunhi07:27
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aztunis there any kubuntu-security mailing list?07:27
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poningruthe devel list?07:28
zeredI like this channel and I like ubuntu for this people07:28
pyretdoes anyone know where i can find audiocodecs for ubuntu?07:28
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aztunhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-security-announce07:29
aztuni found it07:29
aztuni should look for befere asking07:29
abattoirpyret: which format? which player? which version of ubuntu? :P07:29
gatekeeperpyret, as in amaroK, xine engine & libxine-extracodecs?07:30
zeredperhaps getautomatix ?07:30
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pyreti just installed ubuntu on my computer...but i have 6.06  LTS  and amaroK07:32
aztunpyret: install xine engine for amarok and all xine codecs07:33
aztunmaybe u can also install automatix07:33
aztunto get extra codecs07:33
gatekeeper!libxine-extracodecs07:33
ubotuI know nothing about libxine-extracodecs - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu07:34
pyretok thanks07:34
abattoir!info libxine-extracodecs07:34
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB07:34
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gatekeeperpyret, don't use automatrix unless you are happy to spend time fixing things07:35
abattoirpyret: if you are new to linux, and installing its packages, you might find easyubuntu.... easy :)07:35
abattoir!easyubuntu07:35
ubotueasyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.07:35
pyretok07:37
narvik86zered, you can try also Sauerbraten, Cube, true combat:elite and other :-)07:38
BluesKajabattoir, I hve the default browser set as FF in KControl but Konq still launches from T-bird . There's no option to config email settings it in KControl07:38
narvik86you need to set default browser!07:38
narvik86i will find it wait07:39
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abattoirBluesKaj: also, firefox does that default browser checking thing.... does it think that it is the default browser?07:39
narvik86or not, actually i don't have thunderbird :-)07:39
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abattoirBluesKaj: the only other thing that i can think of is checking File Associations(the entry right below Default Applications)07:41
gatekeeperBluesKaj, google to the rescue :-) http://www.mozilla.org/projects/thunderbird/linuxurls.html07:41
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narvik86i'm installing thundrbird07:42
pyretis kubuntu and ubuntu the same thing?07:43
gplfighterno07:43
gplfighterKubuntu uses kde and ubuntu gnome07:43
gatekeeperpyret, yes just use different desktops07:43
pyretok07:43
gatekeepergplfighter, they are still the same linux distro07:44
gplfighteryes07:44
gplfighteri know07:44
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TheHighChildabattoir: Hey man, I restarted my konq and it's back to being messed up, is there a long term solution?07:44
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abattoirTheHighChild: i thought the problem was fixed... it only happens in the session when you upgrade....07:45
abattoirTheHighChild: hmmm, maybe k-d-s is doing something...07:45
abattoirTheHighChild: dapper?07:45
abattoirTheHighChild: or it could be different view profiles07:46
TheHighChildabattoir: Yeah, Dapper, up-to-date. I will restart x07:46
abattoirTheHighChild: which view profile are you using now?07:46
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TheHighChildabattoir: sorry, someone stopped by, how do I check my 'view profile'? sorry,m I don't use konq much, just for fish and ftp07:51
BluesKajbbl07:51
TheHighChildI have to step out for a bit, I'll be back. Thanks for all the help folks07:52
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gabrieluhello07:59
xjjkhallo08:00
gabrielue ai cume que esse trem funciona?08:00
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xjjkI'm having this annoying problem: KDE does not save my mouse settings that I set kcontrol08:01
xjjkthat is, it doesn't reapply them the next time I start X08:01
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gabrieluI think u have to save it first08:01
gabrielubut I dont know how08:01
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xjjkgabrielu: it's saved, and works for the current session08:02
xjjkbut not after08:02
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gabrieludont know08:02
xjjkI can put stuff in my xorg.conf file08:02
xjjkand that works before starting KDE08:02
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xjjkbut as soon as KDE starts, it applies the (wrong) settings and my mouse is messed up again08:02
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gabrieluhave no idea08:03
hhhjrCan someone help me to find out if kubuntu, that I have installed is recogonizing my second CPU. As when I start the system I see abreif message about failinf to allocate a 64 bit adress08:04
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apeman2020865pe08:04
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|lostbyte|hhhjr, Should show in dmesg.08:06
|lostbyte|do a grep CPU on it.08:06
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hhhjrok  I am a newbie can you explain a little more08:06
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hhhjrunder system information it states PentiumII copermine but it doesnt shaw 208:08
|lostbyte|hhhjr, the command "dmesg" is a log of kernel calls and info about hardware when booting and later on.08:08
|lostbyte|hhhjr, SO .. dmesg | grep CPU08:08
|lostbyte|should show you your other CPU.08:08
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hhhjrok thanks08:08
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|lostbyte|hhhjr, also i belive  you have to install a SMP kernel08:09
uniqhhhjr: you can also run 'cat /proc/cpuinfo|more' from konsole, that will show both your cpus.08:10
drunkpikachudoes anyone happen to know about the website that lists practically all known wireless drivers?08:10
abattoir!wireless08:11
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs08:11
vikkehello, i got this problem just now so my resolution is very little, so where do i configure it?08:11
drunkpikachuthanks!08:11
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hhhjrok the second cpu is there but this is the message I get at startup maybe someone can help me understand what it means in laymens terms08:11
hhhjrPCI: Unable to handle 64-bit address for device 0000:00:0e.008:11
|lostbyte|Should be in menu > system setting > Display08:12
abattoirvikke: if it is recognised by X, then run krandrtray->Click on the icon on the tray and choose your resolution08:12
|lostbyte|vikke, ^^08:12
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vikkegeez thanks! thats better!08:12
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rolandohi08:18
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rolandowhy is not possible anymore in kubuntu 6.06 to make groups in the k menu?08:18
faisal4408:19
rolandofor example, kmenu-internet and then i want to have  browsers,file transfers, chat,instant messaging, etc08:19
apeman2020Hello all08:20
draikrolando, you have Kubuntu 6.06?08:20
apeman2020does anyone have any experience with MERAK?08:20
rolandodraik: tak= yes08:20
faisalwhat is MERAK08:20
apeman2020MAIL SERVER08:20
apeman2020www.merakmailserver.com08:20
draikRight-click on the K Menu and select Menu Edito08:21
draik*Menu Editor08:21
draikfrom there you can regroup what you would like under the various categories08:21
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eitch0000which program would be best to convert m4b files to mp3 or anything other like ogg?08:23
rolandothanx draik i  will try that, but im not sure it will work08:24
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justjoshwell, here goes, I just installed kubuntu 5 and now I'm going for automatix08:24
rolandodraik: because nothink will open08:24
rolandonothing08:24
draiknothing opens? How so?08:25
rolandoi dont know08:25
jottwhat package contains the section 3 man pages for all the standard c functions?08:25
rolandois there a way to open that via command line?08:25
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draikrolando, everything can open through command line :)08:26
draikCommand Line is your friend08:26
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draikwhat are you trying to open?08:27
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rolandoi try kmenu but its not a valid command08:27
justjoshso now automatix is installed, could anyone tell me how to run it?08:27
draikClick on K Menu. It's the bottom left button witht the big K on it08:27
justjoshaha! thanks draik08:28
rolandodraik:i know, but you know what just happened?08:28
justjoshsorry, trying to kick my windows habit.08:28
rolandoit dissapeared??!!!!08:28
rolandoand hitting the win key wont open it08:29
justjoshso umm....i thought automatix was going to look like adept. but i guess not.08:29
rolandohow is this even possible?08:29
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justjoshit just seems to be running. is this normal?08:30
draikpress ALT+F2 and type 'kicker'08:30
draikwithout the quotes08:30
rolandono kicker i have08:30
rolandoi dont  have kmenu08:30
rolandogonna restart08:30
raphinkrestart won't change anything08:31
draikjustjosh, LOL, that comment was for rolando, but glad I could be of help to you!08:31
raphinkright clicking on the bar and adding the kmenu might help more ;)08:31
uwohi all - i was updating through the adept notifier, when sth went wrong. now i cant't run adept ("because another process is using the packaging system") even after restart... which process could this be and how could i kill it (terminal is closed, adept not running, neither synaptic or anything i know of)?08:32
draikraphink, I think that rolando isnt following anything I've told him.08:32
justjoshhey, i'll take the help where i can get it. btw, what is DMA and should i turn it on for CDs and DVDs08:32
raphinkdraik: hehe08:32
draikuwo have you checked your running processes?08:32
draikuwo, if all else fails, close your session and start over08:33
draikraphink, can't help those who don't want it08:33
abattoir!dma > justjosh08:33
raphinksure08:33
uwodraik: checked the processes and can't find it - tried restarting session and even restart08:33
heinkel_111argh...what is Kubuntu equivalents of setenv() and unsetenv() or is there a GUI to manipulate environment variables?08:33
draik!DMA > justjosh08:33
abattoirjustjosh: that should help you, if you havent read it already :P08:33
heinkel_111can anyone tell me?08:33
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justjoshok, complete noob, what the heck is !dma?08:34
draikuwo, did you happen to run another packaging system prior to Adept?08:34
draik!DMA08:34
ubotudma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hard disks run faster,  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA08:34
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draik^^justjosh08:34
heinkel_111man setenv gives no response :(08:34
justjoshah, thanks ubotu08:34
abattoirjustjosh: didnt you get a message from ubotu?08:34
heinkel_111even if it is listed at the base ov environ.708:35
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uwodraik: i was updating through clicking the notifier icon - during update it gave me a error message and closed ... since then i can't run it again, nor adept...08:35
heinkel_111under "see also"08:35
abattoirjustjosh: should have got two actually08:35
draikjustjosh, ubotu is not a person, it's a bot for K/Ubuntu information08:35
justjoshnow i see the tab. used to mirc, not konversation08:35
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justjoshonly got one tab tho08:35
justjoshthank you abbatoir08:35
draikjustjosh go here... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA08:36
abattoirjustjosh: no problem :) ... draik sent the second one :)08:36
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heinkel_111hmmm environment variables and kubuntu...problem! and hints?08:36
draikuwo, press ALT+F2 and type 'Adept Updater'08:36
justjoshso draik- the alt+f2, then type in command will get the bot to answer my ?s08:37
justjoshor app name08:37
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draikjustjosh, you type '!<information>' and it will give you what you need, if the information is available08:38
justjoshcool.08:38
justjoshhmm. !wine-- could not run the specified command08:38
serialzkillerhi hackers peace 2 ya all08:38
draikjustjosh, example: !DMA will give you information !cars will not08:38
draik!cars08:38
ubotuI know nothing about cars - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu08:38
justjosh!wine08:38
draik^^ justjosh08:38
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.08:38
justjosh!beer08:39
draikthere you go justjosh08:39
ubotuI know nothing about beer - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu08:39
eshadowHello. I installed KNode but i heve just noticed that there is no icon in Kontact's left menu. Enyone know what to do?08:39
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justjoshyou SAY you know nothing about beer, but I don't believe you bot.08:39
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justjosh!firestarter08:40
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)08:40
justjosh!shorewall08:40
pyrethow do i look at windows media player movies on web pages?08:40
justjoshpyret, i think you need mplayer and some other stuff. are you using konqeror08:40
justjoshapparently automatix should solve the problem.08:41
Ademaneverytime i update through the automatic updates, my /boot/grub/menu.lst gets overridden and i lose my windows boot option08:41
pyretok...no i dont know what konqeror is08:41
justjoshyou're using kubuntu?08:41
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Ademanits the file browser isnt it?08:42
serialzkillerfuck windows trow it OUT !08:42
Ademaner it doubles as web too doesnt it?08:42
justjoshyes it does08:42
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uwodraik: didn't help, but managed through terminal with apt-get update and dpkg --configure. tnx08:42
Ademanserialzkiller: uh.... wow... nevermind i might actually NEED windows for some applications too, when wine matures more, i may get rid of the partition, but untill then, i need windows08:42
justjoshbut if you go here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8029508:42
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justjoshit should help you get firefox and the codecs you need to view wmv's08:43
serialzkillertry dpkg --configure -a08:43
pyretim gonna try ubuntu out for a while and when i dont need windows any more i install ubuntu on my other computer too!08:43
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serialzkillerit will repair some shit at our apt-get08:43
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pyreti got firefox...what is e name of the codec?th08:44
rr72lynx is under rated08:44
narvik86show me page for example08:44
narvik86i wil chceck08:44
narvik86*will*08:44
uwoi have more question - i have a package which i compiled myself. a newer version is now available, which i do not want to install. I would therefore like to "freeze" this package - so that the adept notifier wouldn't be constantly offering me an update - how do i set it to disregard a newer available package (to get rid of the icon in the icon tray)?08:45
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Blissexuwo: look for APT pinning///08:46
serialzkillerthe name is kitty ?th08:46
uwoBlissex: tnx. will do08:46
Blissexuwo: http://WWW.Argon.org/~roderick/apt-pinning.html08:46
Blissexuwo: http://WWW.Debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html#s-pin08:47
serialzkillerhttp://kitty.in.th/index.php?room=lab&id=26808:47
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serialzkillerhi serenity08:47
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coachjhow do I install this file   tremulous-1.1.0-installer.x86.run08:57
Hawkwindsh tremulous-1.1.0-installer.x86.run08:58
coachjHawkwind: will it show up in the menu?08:59
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rr72can i get a system info bar like gkrell but horizontal?09:02
rr72gkrell is vertical09:03
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narvik86coachj: i have tremulous from zip archuve for win and linux09:03
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coachjnarvik86: how is it?09:03
narvik86coachj: i just run it by typing sh tremulous.x8609:04
narvik86in game directory09:04
coachjnarvik86: How is the game?09:06
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narvik86coachj: you see, i have broken collarbone(bone in my arm) so i can't play, but i think is fun, i prefer nexuiz09:07
narvik86coachj: but nexuiz runs bad on my ati :/09:08
coachjoh sorry, I broke my coller bone years ago ouch09:08
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TheCobrahi09:09
narvik86hi09:09
TheCobragot a problem with the kubuntu cd09:09
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TheCobrawhen I run the cd09:09
TheCobraI get an error that a config file is missing or something09:09
TheCobraafter that I get the prompt09:09
TheCobraso no X for me09:09
TheCobrano problems with the ubuntu version09:09
narvik86did you chceck md5sum after downloading cd?09:10
TheCobrahow can u do an md5sum?09:10
narvik86coachj: did you play nexuiz or tremulous? can you install it?09:10
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narvik86TheCobra: on website should be md5sum file09:11
TheCobraand than test it with witch program?09:12
narvik86md5sum in console09:12
coachjnarvik86:havent played either09:12
narvik86md5sum is a program09:12
narvik86coachj: why not?09:12
coachjnavik86:just finding out them09:13
coachjabout them09:13
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coachjI have a ati 8500 but having trouble getting 3d to work09:13
narvik86coachj: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide  i used this guide09:14
coachjlooking09:14
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narvik86coachj: first method was good for me09:15
coachjthink I tried that and it caused the display area to use only a fraction on the aviable screen realestate, took forever to get it back09:17
narvik86really? maybe it switched to virtual desktop09:17
narvik86i tried this for first time and it works09:18
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narvik86but nexuiz is still odd, other games seems to be ok09:18
narvik86that is your choice :)09:19
coachjok thks09:19
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soulridercana nyone suggest a good free online FPS?09:23
hhhjrok  once again I need help  I havr a Dual PIII 1ghz slot1 copermine with a supermicro mn p6dbu I belive I thought both cpu's were being reconized but I know that they are not this is the warning I am getting "WARNING: NR_CPUS limit of 1 reached.  Processor ignored." Any Help? Please09:23
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narvik86soulrider: Nexuiz09:24
narvik86soulrider: warsow09:24
soulrideri think i tried nexuiz once, but i didnt really like it09:26
soulriderand it was VERY laggy09:26
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hhhjrIs there a multi proc kernal distro uf ubuntu  or maybe the servre version?09:27
narvik86soulrider: tremulous09:27
narvik86soulrider: Nexuiz is odd for especially ati users, and have got high requirements09:28
soulrideri think i tried warsow too, adnw as laggy as well :/09:28
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soulriderhttp://www.warsow.net/media/screenshots/wdm5b.jpg this screenshot looks so tron-ish09:29
montoyatengo un problema09:29
soulridermontoya: que te pasa?09:29
soulrider!es09:29
narvik86soulrider: so you probably don't have graphic drivers installed?09:29
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.09:29
montoyael KOpete no me esta conectando09:29
montoyano se que pueda ser09:29
soulrideri do, installed them yesterday :P09:29
soulrideractualzia a la ultima version a ver que pasa09:30
montoyaOK09:30
Tm_Tplease use english09:30
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soulridernarvik86: does warsow use any quake engines?09:31
soulrideri remember one of those games did09:31
soulriderbecause i could build maps.... :)09:31
faroushi i can not see arabic characters when i use fish to secure shell to my server. Anyone know what package should i install. Both units run ubuntu09:31
narvik86soulrider: i think quake 2 modified engine09:32
narvik86soulrider: nexuiz uses quake1 engine called dark places09:32
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ellehi09:32
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narvik86soulrider: tremulous uses quake3 angine :)09:33
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ju_bonsoir09:34
soulrideryea, i just read that09:34
soulriderhow good is it online ?09:34
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farouselle: hi09:34
elleis it possible to reset kde/gnome?09:36
narvik86soulrider: it fastest for me ( i mean performance) for gameplay you have to read manual, 2 ways of playing and you can evolve or be engeenier :)09:36
farouselle: what do you mean by reset09:36
narvik86elle: ctrl+alt+backspace will reset x server09:36
elleno09:36
h3sp4wnhhhjr: Are you just using the standard 686 kernel on dapper ?09:36
farouselle: do you mean restetting all global config files. or just your local config files09:37
h3sp4wnhhhjr: linux-image-server will give you a smp kernel that is optimised (quite heavily) for server workloads (i.e if you was using at a desktop the interactive performance would be slow)09:37
elleall globel config files09:37
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farouselle: that is tremendeous job you need to do it for all installed packages yourself. It will take same time as reinstalling09:38
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ellethanks farous09:39
ellemy english is not very good ....09:39
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farouselle: you can reset your local config file easily though09:39
soulridernarvik86: whast the server population like in warsow?09:39
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farouselle: how about creating a new user account on your pc and see if you liking the default setting09:39
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drunkpikachucan anyone perhaps give me some insight as to why ndiswrapper will install my drivers (and tell me hardware is present) but typing iwconfig doesn't list a wlan0?09:40
elleoh nice idea09:40
abattoirdrunkpikachu: the ndiswrapper module might not be loaded09:40
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TheCobrachecksum is diffrent idd09:41
abattoirdrunkpikachu: 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper'09:41
drunkpikachuabattoir:loading doesn't really do anything09:41
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h3sp4wndrunkpikachu: Are you using the specific recommended driver for your chipset (or just any old windows driver)09:41
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farousdrunkpikachu: did you install the firmware09:41
drunkpikachuh3sp4wn: I'm using the same drivers windows is currently using09:41
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h3sp4wndrunkpikachu: Look on the ndiswrapper wiki for the recommended driver for your chipset09:42
h3sp4wndrunkpikachu: amd64 or i386 ?09:42
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narvik86soulrider: it really depend of day and time :) there is always someone to play09:42
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drunkpikachuhespawn: most people link me to the amd64 but that won't even install, so I use the 386 (extracted from the compaw driver exe)09:43
faroushi i can not see arabic characters when i use fish to secure shell to my server. Anyone know what package should i install. Both units run ubuntu09:43
abattoirdrunkpikachu: check the message from ndislog... type 'dmesg' and see if you get any messages09:43
uwotrying to compile ksirk - on ./configure i get "Qt was not found"..."Please set QTDIR first (/usr/lib/qt3?)" - what could be missing?09:43
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abattoiruwo: you are running Gnome?09:44
uwoabattoir: no - kde09:44
drunkpikachuabattoir: alot shows up, what sort of keywords should I be looking for?09:44
narvik86farous: try language-pack-ar-base and language-pack-kde-ar-base09:44
farousnarvik86: have them both installed :(09:45
narvik86farous: language-pack-gnome-ar-base for gnome yopu use ubuntu09:45
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drunkpikachuabattoir: actaully, "ERROR: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed09:45
farousnarvik86: the host use ubuntu the client use kde09:45
farousthe main problem with my client09:45
abattoirdrunkpikachu: if you tried 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' now, then the error message should be towards the end... else 'dmesg | grep ndis' might be better... also what chipset, there might be native drivers which prevent ndiswrapper from taking control09:45
abattoirdrunkpikachu: aah, ok, so its the latter09:45
narvik86farous: language-support-ar this should help09:46
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farousnarvik86: thanx for all the help will try that09:46
abattoirdrunkpikachu: dapper's kernel has inbuilt support for broadcom chipsets09:46
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abattoirdrunkpikachu: you could either use that or use ndiswrapper09:46
narvik86farous: i don't have any other ideas :)09:46
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abattoirdrunkpikachu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper should guide you09:47
farousnarvik86: i will try to look at the dpendencies of those meta packages perhaps i have a problem with one of the packages they install :)09:47
drunkpikachuabattoir: erm, on thing , I'm not using ubuntu. I uninstalled ubuntu for FC5 (heresy, I know, but the guys here are ussually more helpful than other IRC channels)09:47
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farousnarvik86: you directed me to the right path to invest. for that i am gratefull :)09:47
abattoirdrunkpikachu: heh, lol09:47
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narvik86farous: good luck :)09:48
farous:)09:48
abattoirdrunkpikachu: ok, then check if your kernel has native bcm43xx support09:48
draikDoes anybody know of any voice-recognition software that works on Kubuntu 6.06?09:48
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aliasfreddraik: i would be interested by the answr too09:48
abattoirdrunkpikachu: ...also if you tell us about your operating system, we wont be misled, and hence wont mislead you :)09:48
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zeroconfcan anybody say - is it right to add http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest/ to the /etc/apt/sources.list to get always latest stable KDE? Or shall I add http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354/ and when next KDE comes out - I need reconfigure all PC's, where I have Kubuntu installed? And I have a lot of PC's with Kubuntu installed...09:49
uwoconsidering the error msg on ./configure is " Please set QTDIR first (/usr/lib/qt3?) ", but the qtdir is apparently /usr/share/qt3, would it help if i set it how do i set it as such - how do i do this?09:49
zeroconfand the same with KOffice and Amarok09:49
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abattoirdrunkpikachu: actually, i'm just sleepy... from the error msg. you posted earlier, it means that you do have native bcm43xx support in your kernel09:50
abattoirdrunkpikachu: so loosely follow the instructions at the ubuntu wiki...09:50
drunkpikachuabattoir: Alright, lets see what I can do.... and possibly mess up :D09:51
OdyXdoes somebody have a successful backup with rdiff-backup ? It crashes here...09:51
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asimonuwo: to set QTDIR do 'export QTDIR=/usr/share/qt3', make also sure you have libqt3-mt-dev installed.09:52
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bobbydhi09:53
bobbydhow do I hibernate from KDE in Kubuntu?09:53
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bobbydthere's no option in the logout dialog09:53
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uwoasimon: tnx. the export QTDIR=/usr/share/qt3 worked!09:54
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hhhjrh3sp4win, I have a pIII dual    box I loaded it with the standard Kubuntu Draper wiith 2.6.15-26-386 kernal I am trying to read up on how to update the kernal now but not sure if  I will have to reinstall from scratch Thanks09:58
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Chousukehhhjr: install linux-image-whatever09:58
Chousukehhhjr: preferably the smp-version09:58
hhhjryes but   I am a newbie and  need to find out how to do it thanks09:59
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Blissexhhhjr: use Synaptic or Aptitude and choose a different version of the kernel package, name 'linux-*' as <Chousuke> said.10:00
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Blissexhhhjr: you don't need to reinstall anything, and you can even have different kernel versions for safety.10:00
Blissexhhhjr: or Adept, of course, to manager the packages.10:01
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hhhjryes that is what I am trying to do but I changed the repositories and am now trying to figure out how to restore them thanks10:01
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Chousukehmm10:01
Chousuke!source-o-matic10:01
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic10:01
Blissexhhhjr: just use the standard repositories, there is a list on the web site.10:01
hhhjrok thanks10:02
Chousukedoes a linux-image-686-smp package exist?10:02
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ChousukeI'm not sure about the -smp part.10:02
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Chousukebut if it is, I think that would be best for hhhjr10:02
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kRocKodilehello10:02
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asimonChousuke: I think the 686 kernel has SMP enabled, there is no extra smp kernel package.10:02
Chousukeasimon: ah, okay.10:03
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Chousukewell, linux-image-686 then10:03
Blissexyes, most distros/linux are going SMP by default because now a lot/most new PCs and laptops have dual core CPUs.10:03
kRocKodileim trying to add the 'view mode' button in konqueror but i cant find it? is deleted by kubuntu developers?10:03
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jaimeHow to print on Inkscape10:03
BlissexkRocKodile: whatever that is just look at 'Setting;Edit toolbars'10:04
jaime#inkscape10:04
kRocKodileBlissex: missing....10:04
kRocKodilei wonder why10:04
abattoirkRocKodile: I have it...10:05
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zeroconfcan anybody say - is it right to add http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest/ to the /etc/apt/sources.list to get always latest stable KDE? Or shall I add http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354/ and when next KDE comes out - I need reconfigure all PC's, where I have Kubuntu installed? And I have a lot of PC's with Kubuntu installed... and the same with KOffice and Amarok...10:05
abattoirkRocKodile: View->View Mode10:05
kRocKodileabattoir: kubuntu 6.06 ?10:05
kRocKodileabattoir: i say the toolbar BUTTON not the menu option10:05
asimonBlissex: there is an other reason too, SMP kernels don't have any disadvantage for uni-processor systems nowadays, if they see only one processor during booting, they just switch in up mode10:06
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kRocKodileabattoir: do you have the view toolbar button?10:07
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zeroconfI see amarok-stable and koffice-stable but no kde-stable at http://kubuntu.org/packages/ ...10:07
abattoirkRocKodile:hmm... my mistake... let me check10:07
asimonzeroconf: As I understand it, kde-latest will point to the latest packages.10:07
Blissexasimon: it is not quite as simple as that!10:07
kRocKodilei think the kubuntu developers is gnome users... :/10:08
zeroconfasimon: yes, but they might be not stable10:08
raphinkzeroconf: maybe because kde-stable makes no sense10:08
raphink;)10:08
Blissexasimon: the SMP kernels, esepcially for preemption, used to be quite a bit more buggy than UP ones. But now that many have dual core the bugs are being ifxed.10:08
kRocKodilemaybe they think kubuntu users are idiots and the view button is too much for them10:08
raphinkkRocKodile: who do you think you're insulting?10:09
kRocKodileraphink: show me that i have wrong10:09
raphinkwhat button are you talking about?10:09
kRocKodilethe 'view mode' toolbar button10:10
raphinkah right10:10
raphinkyou can add it10:10
slow-motionn810:10
kRocKodilei can't i missing10:10
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kRocKodileis missing10:10
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raphinkhmmm10:11
raphinklet me see10:11
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bobbydwhat app can I use to set up an ad-hoc wifi network?10:11
raphinkhmm10:12
raphinkthere's no reason why we would have removed it kRocKodile10:12
raphinkdoes it show in KDE 3.5 on other distros?10:12
kRocKodileyes10:12
kRocKodilein gentoo, fedora, suse10:12
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raphinkalright10:12
raphinkdid you file a bug for that?10:12
kRocKodileso its a bug?10:13
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raphinkit seems to be10:13
raphinkI can't find it either10:13
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kRocKodilealso missing the terminal option in konqueror10:13
raphinkand we surely didn't remove it on purpose10:13
raphinkwhere ?10:13
raphinkF8 works10:13
hhhjrHey guys thanks for the help and the link to the automatic repository generator   very cool10:13
kRocKodileyes F8 works... hmmm10:13
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kRocKodileok this is a half bug:>10:14
kRocKodilebecause is missing from menu only10:14
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raphinkkRocKodile: the menus have been redone, so that can explain for this one10:14
raphinkbut not for the view button10:14
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kRocKodiledamn... i use this button alot :(10:16
raphinkcan you file bugs for these kRocKodile?10:16
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kRocKodilei can try10:16
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kRocKodile(sorry for my bad english)10:16
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raphinkhttp://launchpad.net/malone kRocKodile10:16
raphinksorry I don't speak greek kRocKodile ;)10:17
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kRocKodilethats ok, i go now to file this bug10:17
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drunkpikaabattoir: you there?10:17
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BluesKajwhat K3b plugin do I need to burn encoded dvd files ?10:18
kRocKodileI guess I go there?: 'Report a bug in a package'10:18
HawkwindBluesKaj: k3b-dvd10:18
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abattoirdrunkpika: yes10:19
assarhej.. Jag har en liten frga.. Hur joinar jag andra irc kanaler? r det inte "#j" och sen vad?10:20
drunkpikaabattoir: on the guide you gave me, I can't quite get what need to be done with the firmware files. I've compiled them but I don't quite get what they mean by downloaded file (#: sudo bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware <downloaded file>)10:21
BluesKaj!se10:21
ubotuSvensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se10:21
Lynoureassar: /join kanalnamnet10:21
BluesKajdet svenska kanal10:21
assarokey.. tack10:21
abattoirdrunkpika: in that step, you actually extract the firmware for your driver10:21
LynoureBluesKaj: he is asking how to join channels10:21
assar#j ubuntu-se10:21
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hhhjrHey ppl just 1 more question I have a kernal image of 2.6.15-26-386 but the one I am loading via synaptic manager is 2.4.27.686 smp does that sound right?10:22
drunkpikaabattoir: from?10:22
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BluesKaj /join #kubuntu-se10:22
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hhhjrok i guess Ill find out now lol10:23
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hhhjrthanks again10:23
abattoirdrunkpika: look at the step above...10:23
asimonhhhjr: You probably don't want a 2.4 kernel. Try to install the 2.6.15-x-68610:23
drunkpikaabattoir: gah, im an idiot10:24
abattoirdrunkpika: you must read the README file, find the correct firmware version for your chip and d'load it10:24
pyretanyone knows how i install mplayer codecs?10:24
raphink!codecs10:24
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:24
pyretthanks10:24
narvik86pyret: or w32codecs  IMO10:25
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SpAwNcould anyone in here help me add a external device to the fstab so it will be auto mounted everyt time i plug it in?10:27
SpAwNhttp://pastebin.ca/119369  <---what dmesg says when i connect it10:27
kRocKodileraphink: ok i file it (Bug #55436) so what next? i wait for the 6.07 version?10:28
raphinkthere's no 6.07 version kRocKodile ;)10:28
raphinkthe next version is 6.10 ;)10:28
aliasfredSpAwN: looks fine from 1000miles away10:28
SpAwNaliasfred, what looks fine?...10:28
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aliasfredSpAwN: dmesg output10:29
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SpAwNaliasfred, i dont know how to add a entry to my fstab10:29
kRocKodileraphink: so i must re-install kubuntu ?10:29
raphinkkRocKodile: no10:29
raphinkjust upgrade it when edgy is out if you want it10:29
raphinkthat'll be in october (hence 6.10)10:29
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kRocKodilenice:> thank you!10:29
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SpAwNaliasfred, do u know how i could add a entry to my fstab for that device?10:30
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raphinkkRocKodile: you're also welcome to help fixing it if you find the source of the bug10:31
aliasfredSpAwN: nope, but i think the point is not in fstab. but more in some kind of automount stuff10:31
kRocKodileraphink: is it possible in 6.10 version the bug still exist?10:31
aliasfredSpAwN: i dunno how kubuntu handle this, but fstab is more for static stuff10:31
raphinkkRocKodile: if it's not fixed, yes10:31
raphinkhopefully it'll be fixed10:31
raphinkkRocKodile: the best way to get sure it gets fixed is to help fixing it10:31
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raphinkthis is what open-source is about10:32
SpAwNaliasfred, well thanks anyways...but im using e17 and want to use a module that will auto mount stuff when it is plugged in and i was told that for it to work that i need to have it in my fstab10:32
kRocKodileraphink: sorry i dont know C or C++.. just shell (bash) scripting10:32
raphinkalright10:32
raphinkkRocKodile: if you could try in Debian for example10:32
raphinkand see if this bug exists there too10:32
raphinkthat would help10:32
jottkRocKodile: its a kubuntu thing10:32
jottkRocKodile: cp /data/usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror-orig.rc konq-kubuntu.rc ;)10:32
jotterm10:32
raphinkjott: if that gets the button bar, then we have a bug10:33
jottkRocKodile: /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/apps/konqueror10:33
jottto this place konq-kubuntu.rc10:33
pyretdoes anyone knows a good dc++ server prog for ubuntu?10:33
jottkubuntu seems to "simplify" certian things ;)10:33
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draikaliasfred, I guess nobody knew about voice-recognition for kubuntu10:37
aliasfreddraik: yep, voice recognition is like not mainstream on linux in general. there is likely some research soft existing, but nothing in the mainstream10:38
draik:(10:38
aliasfredwould be cool to say "open firefox" in the micro and have it launched10:38
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draikLOL... I understand that as talking to the microwave... LOL10:38
jottisn't ther viavoice for linux? or has it stopped development?10:38
draik!viavoice10:39
ubotuI know nothing about viavoice - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu10:39
aliasfredthe strange point is that good voice recognition tech do exists10:39
jottit's commercial afair... but last time i heared about it was some years ago10:39
aliasfredviavoice implemented such10:39
aliasfredyep viavoice was done by ibm10:39
abattoiraliasfred: i'm yet to do that w/ linux, despite countless sleepless nights.... :(10:39
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aliasfredthe basic 'single word multiple locutor' is not that hard10:40
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aliasfredand require no training10:40
abattoiraliasfred: there is a nice utility called Nitrous Voice flux for windows that does just that...10:40
aliasfredstuff like viavoice are much harder to do tho :)10:41
draikNitrous Voice??? That's an interesting name10:41
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jotthey i guess its not hard to beat vistas voice recognition after all ;)10:41
kRocKodilejott: i must restart kde or just close n open konqueror?10:41
jottkRocKodile: just start konqi10:41
draikisn't konqi the KDE dragon?10:42
jott;)10:42
jottwhatoever10:42
abattoirdraik: http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/Utilities/Misc__Utilities/Nitrous_Voice_Flux.html10:42
draikI like that dragon, but then again I love dragons10:42
jottok got to go...10:42
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draikIs that for linux?10:43
draikor just windoze?10:43
draikby jott10:44
draik*bye jott10:44
abattoirdraik: for windows :(10:44
draik:'(10:44
kRocKodilejott: is still missing:(10:44
abattoirdraik: as i said, i've been searching for linux alternatives... for more than a year...10:44
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abattoirmaybe its time to code it :P10:45
h3sp4wn10:45
_1Bhcant install dapper drake on a thinkpad Z60m10:45
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draikIt would be nice if some dev's got on it10:45
aliasfredabattoir: we are behind you :)10:45
draikall the way10:45
aliasfredabattoir: not even some library out of the lab ?10:46
abattoiraliasfred: hehe, i'd love to work on it, but definitely not on my own....10:46
draikI'll be the lab rat or test monkey or whatever other thing I need to be10:46
aliasfredoh i see you are lazy :)10:46
aliasfredor you sleep too much :)10:46
abattoiraliasfred: hmmm... you wouldnt say that if you saw my activity logs here for the past month..... but then :P10:47
aliasfredok :)10:47
abattoiranyways, i'm working on 'other things' :P10:48
abattoir_1Bh: what exactly is the problem?10:48
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gplfighterhi10:48
_1Bhit boots to the live os, but then the install does not work10:48
gplfighterhow can i add an option to kdm?10:48
abattoir_1Bh: any errors? does the installer load at all?10:49
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gplfighteri have to place a *.desktop file, buut where?10:49
draikI have yet to come across an unsuccessful install of Kubuntu10:49
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abattoiraliasfred: and I also have no experience w/ voice programming stuff... which is definitely way out of my league10:49
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_1BhIt says that the installer crashed, I tried to send bug report but there is some kind of resource problem10:50
_1Bhthe cd rom just keeps cycling over and over10:50
abattoir_1Bh: during which step?10:50
aliasfredabattoir: good oportunity for learning you mean ?10:50
asimongplfighter: I think it's /usr/share/xsessions/10:50
drunkpikahas anyone else had problems running 'make installfw' when trying to use the bcm43xx-fwcutter files?10:50
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gplfighteryes, it is10:50
abattoiraliasfred: hmmm, ok, so shall we work on it together?10:50
gplfighteri've found it :-)10:50
_1Bhright after the desktop loads the live os, then the installer tries to launch and immediately crashes10:50
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gplfighter_1Bh: and the alternate install cd?10:51
abattoir_1Bh: do you have the installer log files? could you pastebin them?10:51
aliasfredabattoir: i dont want to steal your project :)10:51
abattoir!pastebin10:51
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)10:51
abattoiraliasfred: we could always be a team :)10:51
drunkpikasounds hot10:51
abattoir_1Bh: /var/log/installer/syslog , iirc10:51
aliasfredabattoir: more seriously, i surely whish i had the time i got when i was a student :)10:52
aliasfredabattoir: i did some pattern recognition at the time10:52
abattoiraliasfred: which is exactly what i lack, being one10:52
_1Bhbreezy badger runs great and installs great on this machine, so I am back on that right now. I will have to do it over to get the logs10:52
_1Bhbut I can do that10:52
aliasfredabattoir: you lack time being student 1?!?!!?10:52
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abattoir_1Bh: make use of the live cd :P, send info when the installation fails :)10:53
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abattoiraliasfred: ummm, yes, especially when... aah nvm10:53
drunkpikaaliasfred: what do you think he is, a business major?10:53
kRocKodilea user in #debian says the button exists so... i guess this is a kubuntu bug10:53
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abattoiraliasfred: we are going way offtopic10:53
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gan|y|medhello10:53
aliasfredabattoir: indeed :)10:53
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ciusbethi guys!10:54
_1BhThe os is unstable and requires extreme patience to use anything on it, like mail10:54
ciusbeti have a question!10:54
_1Bhwill send the info10:54
ciusbetsomeone knows how to configure OpenGL options?10:55
gan|y|medsince i updated to the new kde version, network printing doesn't work anymore. the cups server is alright, printing locally and from a win client works, just my linux client doesn't wnat anymore. jobs are sent out and it seems they get there, but nothing happens10:55
gan|y|medany ideas?10:55
ciusbeti am playing with Unreal 2004 and i've some problems10:55
ciusbetthe game is toooooo fast10:56
gan|y|medthat'S sth. people don't hear that often in a linux channel10:56
ciusbetif i set resolution > 1024, game crashes10:56
ciusbet:S10:56
gan|y|medhave you checked the x server log?10:57
abattoiraliasfred: anyways, i'll ping you later, and we'll discuss working on 'KDE Voice Control System' :P10:57
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ciusbetwhere is it dude?10:57
aliasfredok :)10:57
ciusbety change xorg.conf10:57
ciusbetand install nvidia.glx10:57
gan|y|medanybody here has printing problems via ipp? because i have...10:57
gan|y|medciusbet: /var/log10:58
ciusbetthx10:58
ciusbetand, do you know how can i change OpenGL options?10:59
ciusbetenable FSAA, aniso..10:59
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ciusbetx server log doesnt help11:01
gan|y|medciusbet: no, sorry. especially since i don't play on linux and have an ati card. i won't be mcuh of a help11:01
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ciusbetok thanks you11:01
ciusbeti hope someone knows11:01
gan|y|medare there any issues about ipp printing in kde?11:01
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kRocKodilei also notice the konqueror does not remember my (saved in default profile) view mode11:02
kRocKodileis this a kubuntu bug also?11:03
gan|y|medwhat are you opening? kfmclient (file manager) or browser?11:04
kRocKodilefile manager11:04
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swingheadhallo11:05
kRocKodilewhy the kubuntu developers "tweaks" the konqueror so much? is not enouf good by default?11:05
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kRocKodilei think the 6.06 is it not ready for release.... to many bugs11:07
h3sp4wnThey are releasing a point release soon11:07
HawkwindLOL 6.10 is almost out11:07
h3sp4wn6.06.111:07
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lhdshello how to untar a .tar file?11:08
h3sp4wnrar xf11:08
rr72is there a system infomation like gkrell but horizontal instead of vertical?11:08
h3sp4wntar xf file.tar11:08
rr72h3sp4wn~ tar -zxvf11:08
unstablesobanyone else getting seg faults with smb?11:08
Hawkwindrr72: conky11:09
rr72sorry11:09
rr72thats tar.gz11:09
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h3sp4wnrr72: v is not necessary and he didn't mention gz11:09
Hawkwindrr72: The - is deprecated and no longer needed11:09
rr72Hawkwind~ im old school11:09
rr72habbit11:09
gan|y|medsave it as file manager. the konqueror setup in kubuntu has never been very sohisticated in my opinion. but that's no reason not to use it11:10
soulridercan someone help me configure kmail? it wont connect to gmail properly. I seached the wikia nd found nothing11:10
gan|y|medsince i updated to the new kde version, network printing doesn't work anymore. the cups server is alright, printing locally and from a win client works, just my linux client doesn't wnat anymore. jobs are sent out and it seems they get there, but nothing happens11:10
rr72so then tar version would return the version?11:10
ceruleantigerThis may be a little off topic, but you know kde input actions where you can do the custom key bindings? Is there any way to get that in OS X?11:10
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ceruleantigerI've been searching forever, and I just can't for the life of me find anything about it, so this is sort of a last ditch effort11:11
rr72ceruleantiger~ ask in #kde yet?11:11
h3sp4wntar --version11:11
apeman2020Hi111:11
ceruleantigerrr72: no, that would make too much sense :P /me -> #kde11:11
Chousukeceruleantiger: keyboard preference pane?11:12
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Chousukeyou can define keyboard shortcuts there. :P11:12
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Chousukemeh11:12
rr72someone said taht - are depreceated11:12
ciusbetYYEEH DUDEESS11:12
ciusbetsomeone knows how to configure opengl?11:13
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rr72see all of htis would be gone if i ignored hawkwind11:13
rr72dpkgreconfigure opengl do anything?11:13
Hawkwindrr72: It's true.  - is deprecated and is *not* needed.  Hasn't been for 5+ years now11:13
rr72im going to stop using - in all my typing then11:13
h3sp4wn--wildcards is nolonger default in newer versions of tar thats annoying11:13
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rr72dpkgreconfigre command not found?11:14
rr72i thought Hawkwind u said - are obsolete11:14
lhdsin /usr/src i should have a linux folder with an @ next to it instead i have a linux-headers-2.6.15-26      linux-source-2.6.15 linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386    any suggestions?11:14
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Hawkwindrr72: In the tar command11:14
Hawkwindrr72: Pay attention to the conversation and stop trolling, as usual11:15
gan|y|medwhy doesn't printing work in kubuntu?11:15
Hawkwindgan|y|med: It works here without problems using CUPS11:15
ciusbeti've a big problem with Ut200411:15
lhdsno suggestions?11:16
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dr_willisgan|y|med,  ive used the gnome-cups-manager tool and the cups web interface. :) the kde printer config  can be a little over kill11:16
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dr_williswhat is the  printer gan|y|med ?11:17
enzodraik_11:18
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gan|y|medit is an epson stylus color 640 on a lan server11:21
gan|y|meddr_willis: it used to work. seems it doesn't since the last update11:21
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gan|y|meddr_willis: i have read sth. about cups 1.2 and kdeprint problems11:21
montoyaI have a problem11:22
_mathieuIm currently running kubuntu from my laptop11:22
dr_willisi always reenable the cups web interface. :P11:22
_mathieuI'd like to use the VGA port to have dual screen11:22
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_mathieuhowever it only "clone" the laptop screen on the other monitor...11:23
_mathieuis it possible to use it as an "extended desktop" -- is there a config tool for this?11:23
dr_willisdepends on the video card. to some degree.. Ive not seen ubuntu have any tools to configure this.11:23
_mathieuok :(11:24
montoyaNesecito aayuda11:24
_mathieuits a radeon something (the laptop is a LG LW60)11:24
ciusbetmontoya?11:24
ciusbetque pasa11:24
_mathieui have to edit XOrg.conf manually?11:24
gan|y|meddr_willis: well, i need to be able to print from the client to the server.11:24
dr_willis_mathieu,  yep.. of course learning what to edit will be the hassle. :)11:24
_mathieuargh ok11:24
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_mathieuthere definately should be a GUI config for this11:25
montoyamira estoy tratando de usar el KOpete para conectarme con mi cuenta de MSN11:25
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dr_willisIve only messed with ati and the tv out. never dual monitors11:25
_mathieuTV Out will be next step11:25
_mathieu:P11:25
dr_willistry it now. Mine worked automaticially :P11:26
dr_willisonce i installed the ATI drivers11:26
ciusbetsi11:26
ciusbety que pasa11:26
ciusbetcon Kopete11:26
montoyay no me sirve11:26
gan|y|med_mathieu: why dont you use the ati gui config tool? you can set up dual monitoring, restart x and it works. for me at least11:26
ciusbetpues instala GAIM o aMsn11:26
montoyasi con KOPETE11:26
montoyade donde puedo descargar aMsn11:27
rr72!english11:27
ubotuI know nothing about english - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu11:27
_mathieugan|y|med: cool, whats this tool called?11:27
montoyapero lo extrao es que ayer funsionaba el KOPETE11:27
ciusbetAdept11:27
ciusbetbuscas amsn11:27
ciusbeto gaim11:27
gan|y|medyou just install the ati drivers. they have a graphical installer now and put the gui right in the menu11:27
montoya /msg montoya set unfiltered on11:27
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montoyaok11:28
gan|y|medany ideas about the printing. test printing form the cups config tool doesn't work as well11:28
montoyagaim tampoco sirve, se conecta y inmediatamente se sale el programa11:28
gnomefreak!es11:28
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:28
gan|y|medit sends it, but doesn't print11:28
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TheGateKeeper!broken11:29
ubotuI know nothing about broken - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu11:29
_mathieugan|y|med: ok thats weird I got the GUI menu but nothing shows. which driver should I use? "ati"? or "fglrx"?11:31
dr_willisfglrx is the accelerated 3d driver11:32
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gan|y|medsorry, reading bug reports11:38
Ademananyone here have a GRUB splash?11:39
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_mathieuok, rebooting X11:39
gan|y|med_mathieu: fglrx. but why don't you just download the latest ati driver from ati.com and install it via the script?11:39
_mathieugan|y|med: it wont conflict with the drivers I apt-got?11:40
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Ademanyou could uninstall fglrx...11:40
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_mathieuok. it might turn out being easier then :)11:40
dr_willisthe ati script is a bit on the brain dead side at times.11:41
Ademanapt-get --remove or something like that, might actually be dpkg --remove   i use synaptic :-p11:41
gan|y|medjust deinstall them11:42
Ademani avoid the command line whenever possible, but of course, this is linux... so its more like that one friend that i only hang out with when everyone else is on vacation11:42
gan|y|meddr_willis: what do you mean?11:42
dr_willislast i messed with the ati script - it genreated a very very poor  xorg.conf file11:43
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dr_willisi had to change a large amount of it -11:43
gan|y|medapt-get install --remove packagfe11:43
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gan|y|medforget the f11:43
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gan|y|medwhen was this?11:43
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whizz-i have been using a different computer for some time, but now i want to append the (konversation) chat logs i have on the other computer to the ones i have on my regular computer... can this be done easily?11:45
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timthelion!java11:46
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository11:46
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gan|y|medit works11:48
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apeman202030............11:50
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BrigadierFroghow do I increase the number of maximum files open11:52
BrigadierFrogeven as sudo it says I don't have permission to /proc/sys/fs/file-max11:52
BrigadierFrogdo I need to change something else first?11:52
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BrigadierFrogit seems to max out at around 102411:53
gan|y|meddr_willis: is it normal that it needs loooong time to print 30 pages text from openoffice?11:53
dr_willisive never used OO..11:54
dr_willisso cant tell ya. :P11:54
posthumandoes anyone know if amarok1.4.2-beta1 debs are available from anywhere?11:54
gan|y|medrastertogutenpr <-- do you know this11:54
gan|y|meduses 85% cpu time right now11:54
h3sp4wnposthuman: What is in the changelog ?11:54
h3sp4wnposthuman: Does it fix the issue with streaming radio ?11:55
gan|y|medif it is a problem to print 30 pages it better quality.. oh my god11:55
posthumani believe so11:55
posthumanyes11:55
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justjoshubotu !xmms11:56
ubotuI know nothing about !xmms - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu11:56
justjosh!zinf11:56
ubotuI know nothing about zinf - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu11:56
justjoshdammit.11:56
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justjosh!mplayer11:57
ubotumplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer11:57
ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.11:57
justjoshso anybody know if mplayer is the linux alternative to winamp?11:59
Martijn81!fishing12:00
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops12:00
justjoshyeah, well yer a stupid bot.12:00
justjoshhow's that for abuse..12:00
SpAwNjustjosh, xmms is12:00
SpAwNjustjosh, u can even use winamp skins with xmms12:01
justjoshany good auto installs for xmms? i just switched to kubuntu about 4 days ago. so far all I've figured out is automatix12:01
h3sp4wnposthuman: No suitable demux plugin. (that problem) - If I can confirm that amarok 1.4.2 definately fixes that then I could build some (tommorow)12:01
SpAwNjustjosh, use "sudo apt0get install packagename(xmms)"12:01
justjoshah, thanx SpAwN12:02
SpAwNjustjosh, "sudo apt-get install"12:02
dr_willisEgads... dont use automatic.12:02
dr_willislearn the proper way to isntall things.. its trivially easy. :P12:02
justjoshyeah, but the wife wants it NOW. so I gotta move fast.12:02
posthumanautomatix works nicely though12:02
posthumanlol12:02
posthumanok h3sp, cool.12:02
justjoshand if you've got a good tutorial on how to compile dr_willis, please send me a url12:03
dr_willisposthuman,  theres dozens of peopel that would debate taht point.12:03
posthumanwell, I've never had a problem with it12:03
dr_willisjustjosh,  depends on what you are doing.. find a few C,C++ tutorials.12:03
Smooph!amarok12:03
ubotuamarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.1 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php12:03
posthumanand it seems to save time, without having to hunt down specific package names12:03
dr_willisposthuman,  that 'fact' means little to the 100's that have had Major issues with it. :P12:03
Smooph!mp312:03
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:03
posthumanah12:04
dr_willisI just keep a 'history' of the commands i type. :) my own WillisMatix!12:04
justjoshwell i haven't had any major issues w/ it doc. just no external player12:04
justjoshwell dcc me the willismatix and i'll use that too12:04
justjoshheh.12:04
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dr_willisTHen ya got the whole history of AUtomatix - thats such a flamefest -- ya better fireproof your eyes befor reading it.12:04
timthelioncan anyone tell me how to install lame?12:04
justjoshsudo apt-get install?12:05
justjoshhmmm....no sudo apt-get install porn anywhere i see tho12:05
dr_willis!info lame12:05
ubotulame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-1 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 620 kB12:05
dr_willissudo apt-get install pornview12:05
timtheliono multiverse...12:05
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justjoshno power in the verse can stop ubotu12:05
timthelion!porn viewing12:06
ubotuI know nothing about porn viewing - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu12:06
posthumanpornview?12:06
posthumanlol12:06
justjoshi highly doubt that bot, yer a perv.12:06
SpAwNjustjosh, lol....sudo apt-get install xmms will install xmms12:06
dr_willis!info pornview12:06
ubotupornview: Image and movie viewer/manager. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.2pre1-5ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 200 kB, installed size 608 kB12:06
posthumano.o12:06
dr_willis:)12:06
dr_willisya thought i made the name up dident ya! :P12:07
Smoophthat thing exists ?12:07
SpAwNlol12:07
justjoshwhere exactly does xmms install? /usr/lib?12:07
posthumanyes I did12:07
posthumanlol12:07
posthumanhah12:07
timthelionyes12:07
SpAwNjustjosh, umm not sure...probly usr/bin12:07
dr_willisits an ok image viewer.. rather basic. but ok.12:07
timthelion!dvd12:07
ubotuSee http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages12:07
timthelion!mp312:08
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:08

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