[12:08] <asimon> eelco: Is this a new user you added or the default user which got created during installation?
[12:09] <eelco> no it is my standard user account, Adebt asks for Su password but that should be my user password wright?
[12:10] <asimon> eelco: yes, right.
[12:10] <jott> dek: the edgy patch seems to work...
[12:11] <eelco> asimin: but it does not work!
[12:12] <jott> dek: if you tell me a place where i should put the deb you can have it ;)
[12:12] <dek> where can i download it from then?
[12:12] <dek> isn't it free?
[12:12] <asimon> eelco: I guess you already checked if shift-lock is on.
[12:12] <eelco> asimon: yes..........
[12:13] <jott> dek: sure.. you have a build environment? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/k/krusader/krusader_1.70.0-1ubuntu1.diff.gz
[12:13] <dek> you mean compiler?
[12:13] <jott> dek: you need to chmod +x rules and add a entry in the version history
[12:13] <asimon> eelco: does 'sudo whoami' accepts the passwd from the command line?
[12:14] <jott> dek: compiler + all dev packages you need (like kde*-dev stuff) + dpkg build environment...
[12:14] <jott> dek: but its actually straightforward ;)
[12:14] <Admiral_Chicago> everyone check out the main page of wikipedia
[12:14] <dek> well if Kubuntu didn't install it then I dont have it :P
[12:14] <Admiral_Chicago> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
[12:14] <dek> but I actually want to learn to compile the apps I use xD
[12:14] <nickay> hi. I have a problem when i am trying to acces to my usb disk. I get error "Could not enter folder /media/disk". There is anyone how can help me? Is problem with permissions?
[12:14] <jott> its all in the repository but you need to fetch it.. ;)
[12:15] <eelco> asimon: yes tried it and it works
[12:15] <Admiral_Chicago> nickay, the drive mounted?
[12:16] <nickay> Admiral_Chicago I am new with linux. How can mount it?
[12:16] <KiDD420> how do I install this java bin
[12:16] <dr_willis_> !java
[12:16] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[12:16] <asimon> eelco: and does 'kdesu adept_manager' works from the command line?
[12:16] <hooded_robin> what filesystem should i use? Ext2 or 3?
[12:17] <dialloma> salut  tous
[12:17] <Admiral_Chicago> right click it, there may be an option
[12:17] <Admiral_Chicago> hooded_robin, I use ext3
[12:17] <asimon> hooded_robin: ext3 is almost always a better choice than ext2.
[12:17] <Admiral_Chicago> but to be honest, I don't know the difference
[12:18] <hooded_robin> asimon: thanks... i have partition magic and thats the only two options to choose for linux
[12:19] <KiDD420> !java
[12:19] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[12:19] <KiDD420> !multiverse
[12:19] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:19] <eelco> asimon: no that does not work (failed to open device)
[12:19] <asimon> eelco: does it write which device?
[12:20] <eelco> asimon: 166
[12:20] <nickay> Admiral_Chicago in the moounting option of usb drive there is mountpoint "/media/disk" there isn't any other option about mounting
[12:21] <eelco> asimon: what does kdesu adept_manager?
[12:22] <asimon> eelco: it starts the adept package manager, it's same which happens if you choose 'Adept Manager' from the menu.
[12:22] <Arkkis> Hello, I'm installing my first kubuntu on a brand new hdd of 320G and I'd like some advice on what partitions to have and how big..
[12:23] <eelco> asimon: and does device 166 tell you any think?
[12:23] <Arkkis> is there some article/tutorial/howto I should read about it, or could you guys help?
[12:23] <_sledge_> A recent adept upgrade screwed my sound. It's isn't owkring at all, but I can see all mixers etc. Applications print "alsa_get_mixer(): Attaching to mixer hw:0 failed: No such device" to the console. Any idea what might have happened?
[12:24] <asimon> eelco: sorry, it doesn't say me much.
[12:24] <asimon> eelco: Does this also happens if you try to start some other program, i.e. 'kdesu konsole'?
[12:24] <Admiral_Chicago> nickay, sorry i was on another desktop
[12:25] <nickay> is ok
[12:25] <KiDD420> ok
[12:25] <dialloma> salut  tous
[12:25] <KiDD420> I cant find the java package in adept with the universe enabled
[12:25] <Admiral_Chicago> Arkkis, I'd go with a partition like 275 Gb
[12:25] <dialloma> quelqu'un parle Franais s'il vous plait ?
[12:25] <KiDD420> how do I install this bin?
[12:25] <Admiral_Chicago> I've saved my system a few time by installing a different linux distro in the freespace
[12:26] <Admiral_Chicago> dialloma, je parle un peut de francais
[12:26] <Arkkis> Admiral_Chicago, I'm planning on installing windows on the drive at some point, and I think it'll take 30gigs or so (so, I have space to work with on the darn windows side)
[12:26] <dialloma> ok
[12:26] <Admiral_Chicago> Arkkis, best to do Windows before Linux...
[12:27] <Arkkis> darn, the problem is, that I do not have the install medium just yet
[12:27] <eelco> asimon: in rootshell both give now can not start X server
[12:27] <nickay> Admiral_Chicago in the moounting option of usb drive there is mountpoint "/media/disk" there isn't any other option about mounting
[12:27] <Arkkis> for windows that is
[12:27] <KiDD420> !java
[12:27] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[12:27] <dialloma> j'ai un problme de partitionnement de disque dur avec GParted sous kubuntu
[12:28] <Admiral_Chicago> nickay, hmm,  check your /media folder
[12:28] <Riddell> dialloma: #kubuntu-fr pour francais
[12:28] <asimon> eelco: did you try this under a console under X (KDE)?
[12:28] <eelco> yes.... :(
[12:29] <luke_> Hey, if ive installed GDM, can i reinstall KDM?
[12:29] <Arkkis> Admiral_Chicago, so, no /var /usr /tmp /etc needed? Just two partitions??
[12:30] <Arkkis> :/
[12:30] <Admiral_Chicago> Arkkis, use Qtparted in the live Cd and create a space of 275gb
[12:31] <Arkkis> and?
[12:31] <Admiral_Chicago> for the Linux install and have it formated as ext3
[12:31] <Arkkis> one big chunk?
[12:31] <nickay> Admiral_Chicago it is locked. I get error "You do not have enough permissions to read file:///media/disk". I want to ask u if i change disk's permissions i will have problem to access it from windows?
[12:31] <Kadran> hello
[12:31] <sledge> linux-image-2.6.15-26-k7 definitely breaks sound with via_82xx!
[12:32] <Admiral_Chicago> nickay, wait, what is your set up now?
[12:32] <asimon> eelco: does it read 'can not _connect_' or 'can not start'?
[12:32] <Admiral_Chicago> are you on the Dapper install Cd or what
[12:34] <eelco> asimon: It suddenly works..... the adept program has accepted my user password
[12:34] <asimon> eelco: very fishy
[12:34] <thompa> sledge: i had problem with k7 but now i am using ubuntu64
[12:34] <sledge> asimon: <><
[12:34] <eelco> asimon: yes. but thanks for you help
[12:35] <asimon> eelco: But it show once again: persistence pays off ;-)
[12:35] <sledge> thompa: how good is the mixed 64/32-bit environment support nowadays?
[12:35] <thompa> i dont know
[12:35] <thompa> i can do everything except real player just now
[12:35] <sledge> thompa: i'
[12:36] <thompa> this is an amd64 duo core
[12:36] <sledge> thompa: i'm running an amd64 laptop right now. I gave 64-bit ubuntu a spin about 3 months ago, but having to set up a chroot for 32-bit apps was too much of a hassle.
[12:36] <thompa> i dont think cool and quiet is working
[12:37] <sledge> thompa: Then I'll give it a couple of months... :)
[12:37] <thompa> well now it got quiet, is the driver installed for this already
[12:37] <nickay> Admiral_Chicago i login as root and is ok. Thanks for ur time
[12:39] <plugs> umm how do i know what the root password is
[12:39] <thompa> sledge: what are you using for web editing if any?
[12:39] <thompa> im just trying kimagemapper
[12:40] <thompa> i mean imagemapeditor
[12:40] <sledge> thompa: web editing? I use gvim for almost all editing tasks.
[12:41] <q__> &*^%$%#$#@
[12:41] <thompa> cool
[12:41] <sledge> q__: True dat.
[12:42] <drwisnia> pl??
[12:47] <larson9999> hmmm a streaming audio site a play on both linux and windows works in windows and in linux but in linux it stops after 10:40.
[12:47] <xx> from poland is somebody
[12:48] <andy1> My laptop tries to go to sleep about every 30 seconds whether i'm using it or not with kubuntu installed
[12:54] <Prinz> hi people
[12:54] <Prinz> :D
[12:55] <Prinz> I need some help
[12:55] <Prinz> how to play mp3 on amarok?
[12:55] <Admiral_Chicago> !mp3
[12:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:55] <Admiral_Chicago> Prinz, chexk that
[12:55] <andy1> hi Prinz...doesnt seem much going on in here although plenty of coming and going
[12:55] <Admiral_Chicago> check that*
[12:55] <andy1> i'm no expert but if i can help i will try
[12:56] <Prinz> i can play mp3 using xmms
[12:56] <Admiral_Chicago> pretty much, you have to enable mulitverse and universe, and install those packages
[12:56] <Admiral_Chicago> Prinz, get that?
[12:57] <Prinz> i'll try
[12:58] <andy1> i was gonna say that
[12:58] <andy1> lol
[01:00] <intelikey> grub error 21
[01:00] <Prinz> o.O
[01:01] <intelikey> i found out why grub-install was erroring out.   kernel version.
[01:01] <intelikey> so i got it installed.  now it just wont boot.   ;/
[01:02] <intelikey> or was it error #17   hehhe i don't remember.
[01:02] <Admiral_Chicago> Prinz, I'm Afk, but message me if you need me
[01:03] <Prinz> okz
[01:03] <intelikey> but that's not why im here.    any sujestions on how to work around this error?   --> The PPP daemon has died: No root priv error (exit code = 3)
[01:03] <StreetSmart> Hey everyone. Im just wondering, after installing firefox with apt-get how come the icon didnt apear in my start menu under internet?
[01:04] <StreetSmart> And how do I get it there?
[01:04] <Prinz> Admiral_Chicago: "Package libxine-extracodecs is not available"
[01:04] <intelikey> i'd kinda like to exec wvdial as user rather than having to enable root.
[01:04] <Prinz> :|
[01:04] <Admiral_Chicago> Prinz, did you enable universe/multiverse?
[01:05] <Prinz> Admiral_Chicago: yes
[01:05] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, let me see
[01:06] <intelikey> StreetSmart why use ff ?   konq is the browser ++     but at any rate you can start it from the command line or make a launcher on the desktop or panel or even manually add it to the menu.
[01:06] <andy1> i did it before...installed firefox...when i rebooted the shortcut was in the start menu
[01:06] <intelikey> update-menus   might help.
[01:07] <Admiral_Chicago> Prinz, let me check it out on my own computer.
[01:08] <intelikey> anyone have any clue on the pppd issue ?
[01:08] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs worked fine for me
[01:09] <Prinz> :(
[01:10] <Prinz> your kernel is 2.6.15-26-386 ?
[01:10] <intelikey> Prinz who you asking ?
[01:10] <Prinz> Admiral_Chicago
[01:10] <intelikey> k
[01:10] <StreetSmart> intelikey: that command update-menus did not work.
[01:11] <Admiral_Chicago> 2.6.15-26-686
[01:11] <Prinz> hmm
[01:11] <intelikey> StreetSmart did you run it as root ?
[01:11] <intelikey> and StreetSmart i only said it 'might' help....  no promice there.
[01:12] <StreetSmart> intelikey: i did run as root. lol i dont think the command even exists.
[01:13] <Admiral_Chicago> try it in adept
[01:13] <Admiral_Chicago> or copy and paste my command and run that
[01:13] <Prinz> Admiral_Chicago: I'm downloading 2.6.15-26-686
[01:13] <Admiral_Chicago> for some reason, I think you may have made a mistake
[01:14] <Admiral_Chicago> Prinz, I ran libxine-extracodecs on an older kernel
[01:14] <intelikey> man update-menus
[01:14] <Prinz> okz... but my pc is a p4... and is running i386 kernel
[01:14] <asimon> StreetSmart: Firefox appears in the menu, but just the icon is missing? Or is there no firefox at all in the menu?
[01:14] <Prinz> rs
[01:14] <intelikey> i think it's default on all *buntu systems.
[01:15] <intelikey> but hey i'm always wrong.  just ask anyone that disagrees with me  :)
[01:16] <Admiral_Chicago> my computer is a P4
[01:16] <StreetSmart> asimon: firefox did not appear in the menu at all.
[01:16] <Prinz> Admiral_Chicago: xine-extracodecs don't appear on adept
[01:16] <linuxgoober> how do i check my fps with glxgears?
[01:16] <StreetSmart> asimon: I have not restarted but thats why im asking. I dont want to restart.
[01:17] <Admiral_Chicago> paste your sources.list please
[01:17] <Prinz> okz
[01:17] <asimon> StreetSmart: Try restarting just the panel, i.e. ALT-F2 and enter 'dcop kicker kicker restart'
[01:17] <Admiral_Chicago> !paste
[01:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:17] <gnomefreak> linuxgoober: glxgears --printfps
[01:17] <gnomefreak> or its -printfps cant remember
[01:18] <Prinz> hehehe
[01:18] <StreetSmart> asimon: Did not appear in the menu.
[01:18] <yamal> glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark   also works :)
[01:18] <misfit> does anyone know if there is a way to "grep" through files using fish in konqueror?
[01:18] <linuxgoober> none of those work gnomefreak :-/
[01:19] <asimon> StreetSmart: Strange
[01:19] <intelikey> StreetSmart "I dont want to restart."   good this is not M$ reboot windows.   just logout and login.  that will reset xorg.
[01:19] <Prinz> Admiral_Chicago: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19839
[01:19] <gnomefreak> linuxgoober: glxgears -printfps
[01:19] <StreetSmart> asimon: :( I dont want to restart.... itll mess up my uptime!
[01:19] <StreetSmart> asimon: were is the executable for firefox or any other program i install?
[01:19] <linuxgoober> k
[01:20] <Admiral_Chicago> Prinz, okay let me check it out
[01:20] <asimon> StreetSmart: for firefox, it's /usr/bin/firefox
[01:20] <StreetSmart> intelikey: alright
[01:21] <Admiral_Chicago> you have the backdoor repo enabled?
[01:21] <asimon> heheh, "backport", nobody wants a backdoor repo ;-)
[01:21] <klerfayt> ok I'm using slight font antialiasing and RGB sub-pixel hinting http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/2363/snapshot4zs1.png - why is M so fat?
[01:22] <intelikey> asimon backdoors can be fun >:] 
[01:22] <Admiral_Chicago> asimon, oh yea thats right
[01:22] <asimon> intelikey: I suppose that depends on which side of the line you are.
[01:23] <intelikey> or on who you are interacting with....
[01:23] <Prinz> Admiral_Chicago: I have downloaded kernel for i686... I will try using it
[01:23] <klerfayt> or should I turn off antialiasing then I use sub-pixel hinting?
[01:23] <Admiral_Chicago> Prinz, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19840 this is my sources.list
[01:24] <Prinz> okz
[01:24] <Admiral_Chicago> I'm not saying you should use it, but you may want to look at it
[01:24] <Prinz> hehehe
[01:24] <Prinz> I will try using it
[01:25] <intelikey> careful about the markup there
[01:26] <asimon> klerfayt: Maybe it gets better if you change the hinting from slight to full?
[01:26] <intelikey> if you just use the download save as button you will get M$ markup   copy and paste the contents of the pastebin  and you avoid M$ markup
[01:26] <klerfayt> asimon: ok I'll try, but full antialiasing is slower
[01:28] <klerfayt> asimon: M, N and A are still fatter
[01:30] <root> im attempted to install the nvidia drivers with the .run from their site, and it is asking for the kernel source, where do i get that?
[01:31] <Dark_Oppressor> oops
[01:31] <Dark_Oppressor> accidentally left the channel, im not used to irssi haha
[01:32] <klerfayt> Dark_Oppressor: you can install latest nvidia drivers using apt
[01:32] <Dark_Oppressor> oh, really?
[01:32] <Dark_Oppressor> how would i go about doing that
[01:32] <asimon> klerfayt: which font is this?
[01:32] <klerfayt> Dark_Oppressor: yes you need to enable Multiverse and Univeres repositories
[01:33] <intelikey> !ati
[01:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:33] <Prinz> Admiral_Chicago: I found libxine-extracodecs using your sources
[01:33] <Admiral_Chicago> okay
[01:33] <Admiral_Chicago> cool
[01:33] <Prinz> lol
[01:33] <klerfayt> asimon: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gamin/+bug/36581
[01:33] <Dark_Oppressor> ok, how would i go about shutting down X and having only a terminal?
[01:33] <Prinz> Admiral_Chicago: and...
[01:34] <intelikey> Dark_Oppressor sudo killall kdm
[01:34] <Prinz> Admiral_Chicago: Amarok is running mp3 now!!!!
[01:34] <Admiral_Chicago> awesome
[01:34] <Prinz> lol
[01:34] <Dark_Oppressor> alrigt thanks
[01:34] <Dark_Oppressor> ill go try that
[01:34] <klerfayt> Dark_Oppressor: no. after you install nvidia-glx package you just run sudo nvidia-xconfig and logout
[01:34] <Dark_Oppressor> oooh ok
[01:34] <Dark_Oppressor> cool
[01:34] <Dark_Oppressor> ill go do that then :D
[01:35] <Doodluv> Prinz: how did you do it?
[01:35] <Prinz> Doodluv: I used sources.list of Admiral_Chicago
[01:36] <Admiral_Chicago> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19840
[01:36] <Admiral_Chicago> is the sources.list I gave him, If I linked it right
[01:36] <Prinz> the default list... don't found libxine-extracodecs
[01:36] <intelikey>  any sujestions on how to work around this error?   --> The PPP daemon has died: No root priv error (exit code = 3)
[01:37] <Prinz> I will reboot now with i686
[01:37] <Prinz> ^^
[01:37] <intelikey> mounted nosuid, and no root is locked
[01:37] <intelikey> somebody ?
[01:38] <Doodluv> Prinz: ok thanks
[01:38] <Doodluv> Admiral_Chicago: thanks
[01:38] <intelikey> Doodluv too late. -:- SignOff Prinz: #kubuntu ("rebooting"
[01:38] <klerfayt> asimon: could the reason be msttcorefonts?
[01:39] <plugs> how do i find out the root password?
[01:39] <intelikey> nobody ?
[01:39] <Doodluv> your right
[01:39] <intelikey> plugs there isn't one.
[01:39] <intelikey> !root
[01:39] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:39] <luksan_> plugs: impossible
[01:39] <thasa42> anyone know of an opensource burnprog for windows?
[01:39] <intelikey> if you want a root passwd you will have to set it.
[01:39] <asimon> klerfayt: Well, it could be that some fonts render worse than others.
[01:41] <Dark_Oppressor> i installed nvidia-glx, ran nvidia-xconfig, and logged out and in, but i dont see any difference
[01:41] <intelikey> no thoughts  no sysadmins around ?
[01:41] <klerfayt> Dark_Oppressor: my mistake
[01:42] <StreetSmart> intelikey: hey. after logging out. everytime i install a program it automaticaly comes in the menu... weird.
[01:42] <klerfayt> Dark_Oppressor: if you log out then click on "menu" and choose "restarrt X"
[01:42] <Dark_Oppressor> ahh ok, ill go try that
[01:42] <klerfayt> Dark_Oppressor: logging out doesn't restart X by default
[01:42] <intelikey> StreetSmart aint kde kewl !
[01:42] <StreetSmart> intelikey: does kububtu come with ksynaptic already installed?
[01:42] <intelikey> StreetSmart no  adept
[01:42] <klerfayt> StreetSmart: no
[01:43] <StreetSmart> ah.
[01:43] <StreetSmart> thanks :P
[01:43] <intelikey> you can install synaptic ifn ya want it.
[01:43] <nanotube> Dark_Oppressor: you need to reconfigure xserver-org to use nvidia
[01:43] <Admiral_Chicago> nanotube, he quit
[01:44] <nanotube> Admiral_Chicago: :-)
[01:44] <nanotube> I'm too slow
[01:44] <Admiral_Chicago> yea I did the same thing
[01:45] <nanotube> I'm browsing on the internet an canot find answer, can anyone give me hint how to alias my ra0 to eth0?
[01:45] <intelikey> StreetSmart also it's a good idea to learn how to use the cli package manager frontend of your choice.   apt or aptitude.       FYI all package tool in *buntu are frontends to dpkg = the debian package manager.
[01:45] <Dark_Oppressor> klerfayt: that did the trick, thanks
[01:45] <intelikey> tools
[01:47] <intelikey> apt is really simple to use, and is installed by default on all debian/*buntu systems.     apt-cache search <string>   to search   and apt-get install/remove <pack-name>    to add or remove them respectively
[01:47] <klerfayt> Dark_Oppressor: only problem seems to be that nvidia-settings keep resetting every time I log in (at least for me)
[01:48] <nat> so do you now the hack for msn
[01:49] <posthuman> !opengl
[01:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about opengl - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:49] <nat> !java
[01:49] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[01:49] <Dark_Oppressor> klerfayt: i have two monitors, but the entire Monitor Orientation section is greyed out
[01:49] <intelikey> nat  gaim
[01:49] <posthuman> can you enable direct rendering with the opensource nvidia drive, or is that not possible?
[01:49] <posthuman> the nv one
[01:51] <intelikey> anyone know how to fix grub error 21 ?
[01:52] <daign> kl
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[01:52] <nat> ur mum
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[01:52] <daign> ur dad
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[01:53] <nat> ur mum
[01:53] <daign> ur dad
[01:54] <intelikey> nat it's easier to just use /quit   or /exit    then you don't get klined and can come back....
[01:54] <daign> ur sister if u got one
[01:54] <cbowen> Anybody know how to printer to a Fedora Core 5 CUPS server from Dapper?
[01:54] <soulrider> hi
[01:55] <soulrider> !grub
[01:55] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:55] <posthuman> !nv
[01:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about nv - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:57] <soulrider> i see its rather empty here today
[01:58] <arturs> I can not work with google mail - ERROR:node
[01:59] <asimon> soulrider: It's Saturday, some people prefer to go out instead of hanging around in IRC  ;-)
[01:59] <intelikey> asimon blasphemy
[01:59] <intelikey> trator
[01:59] <intelikey> traitor that is     hehhe
[02:00] <soulrider> yea lol
[02:00] <arturs> How can work with node in Konqueror
[02:00] <arturs> ?
[02:00] <soulrider> nerd rule #1, NEVER go to an open space
[02:01] <soulrider> im gonna have to go
[02:01] <soulrider> apparently im gonna have to reinstall windoze adn then restore friggin grub
[02:01] <soulrider> so
[02:01] <soulrider> bbl
[02:04] <intelikey> ok anyone know anything about grub ?
[02:04] <intelikey> anything useful at all ?
[02:04] <arturs> 
[02:04] <arturs> something:)
[02:04] <intelikey> error 21
[02:05] <intelikey> reason for that is 'cant find disk'
[02:05] <intelikey> so if i have hdd's in /boot/grub/device.map  that have no partition   would that cause that error ?
[02:06] <tlp> Hi. I'm attempting to enable mp3 support and have followed the steps here: http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#mp3s -- However, libxine-extracodecs is not listed, and I do have the multiverse repository enabled.
[02:06] <intelikey> secondly will changes to /boot/grub/devices.map affect grub   or does one have to reinstall grub to get that to affect grub ?
[02:08] <intelikey> tlp someone just went over that.   try the repos listed here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19840
[02:08] <intelikey> don't forget to update after any changes to your sources.list.
[02:08] <tlp> I'll look at that. Thanks!
[02:09] <Admiral_Chicago> !loco
[02:09] <ubotu> Information on Ubuntu Local Community Teams is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams
[02:10] <intelikey> !media
[02:10] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[02:11] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, the wikipedia enty for Linux disto comparisons is off
[02:11] <intelikey> why isn't   sox (cli based)  listed in that....?
[02:11] <Dark_Oppressor> i have the taskbar set to auto hide itself when i move the mouse away, and it's been working, but all the sudden it disappeared and now it wont come back
[02:11] <asimon> intelikey: changes to devices.map take effect without the need to reinstall grub. The grub shell reads this file.
[02:11] <Admiral_Chicago> they say the default package manager is synaptic
[02:12] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm pretty sure its apt-get
[02:12] <intelikey> asimon thank you.   and any clue on the other Q ?
[02:12] <tlp> intelikey: Do you know which one of those repositories contains that specifically?
[02:13] <intelikey> so if i have hdd's in /boot/grub/device.map  that have no partition   would that cause that error ?    <--- that one.
[02:13] <tlp> Tried the first one.
[02:13] <Admiral_Chicago> tlp, do a !info <package>
[02:13] <asimon> intelikey: Only that the error indicates that the device does not exist or is not recognized by the system.
[02:13] <intelikey> tlp no but the list looks pretty comprehinsive.  i'd use the whole file.
[02:13] <Admiral_Chicago> !info amarok
[02:13] <ubotu> amarok: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In repository main, is optional. Version 2:1.3.9-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 7630 kB, installed size 18672 kB
[02:13] <Admiral_Chicago> for example
[02:14] <tlp> !info libxine-extracodecs
[02:14] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[02:14] <intelikey> asimon yes.    and i don't think grub is powerfull enough to boot an hd without partitions
[02:14] <tlp> Admiral_Chicago: hehe, that didn't tell me anything :-/
[02:15] <asimon> intelikey: This I don't know.
[02:15] <Admiral_Chicago> ah tlp, yes its in multiverse
[02:15] <intelikey> asimon so lets assume for a moment that, that is the issue.    just commenting out those disks should solve it ?
[02:15] <Admiral_Chicago> tlp, I gave someone help earlier finding this package
[02:15] <Admiral_Chicago> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19840
[02:15] <Admiral_Chicago> they used my sources.list
[02:16] <tlp> Yes. I'm wondering which one of those specific repositories has that file. Maybe I'll just use that whole list. Where can I find sources.list?
[02:16] <intelikey> i'll go try it.    booting is no big deal anyway.   i can always use a floppy disk.    "now that i built a kernel that will fit on a floppy"
[02:16] <tlp> (on my system)
[02:16] <tlp> /etc/apt/ I'm assuming?
[02:17] <intelikey> tlp package name ?
[02:17] <asimon> intelikey: As I understand grub usually guesses the mapping automatically right and devices.map is needed only in rare situtaions.
[02:17] <tlp> intelikey: libxine-extracodecs
[02:17] <intelikey> !info libxine-extracodecs
[02:17] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[02:17] <intelikey> there   ^
[02:17] <tlp> Yes. I just did that :-)
[02:18] <tlp> I mean the repository URL.
[02:18] <Admiral_Chicago> tlp, yea etc/apt/sources.list
[02:18] <tlp> The multiverse URL I have doesn't work.
[02:18] <intelikey> asimon then grub will probably never be able to boot anything on this box.
[02:18] <Admiral_Chicago> err /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:18] <intelikey> i'll go test anyway.
[02:18] <Admiral_Chicago> tlp, good luck
[02:18] <joshpi> Some one help me Pleas
[02:18] <tlp> Admiral_Chicago: Thanks. Am fetching updates with your list now.
[02:18] <Admiral_Chicago> and if you need help, go ask hybrid
[02:19] <Admiral_Chicago> cool
[02:19] <joshpi> thanks
[02:19] <joshpi> I'll ask hybrid
[02:20] <tlp> Found it. Thanks again.
[02:22] <tlp> Bah. And now I can't find w32codecs.
[02:23] <BluesKaj> anyone know where i can find the tovid gui ...been searching for for a while and sen lots of refernces to how great it is but no sources are mentioned !
[02:23] <Shannon1> hi everyone ,, can anyone help me with how to make ltserial load automatically,, I cant use my modem  unless i do modprobe ltserial,,
[02:23] <marquezb> alguien que hable espanol
[02:24] <BluesKaj> !tovid gui
[02:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about tovid gui - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:24] <BluesKaj> !es
[02:24] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:24] <marquezb> gracias
[02:24] <BluesKaj> !tovid
[02:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about tovid - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:25] <asimon> Shannon1: You can add the module name to /etc/modules, then it's loaded automatically during boot.
[02:27] <joshpi> can someone help me please
[02:27] <Shannon1> asimon: I have my 2 module ltmodem and ltserial in "uname -a"/extra
[02:28] <Shannon1> but still ,, they dont seem to load unless I do modprobe
[02:29] <visik7> why gnome is so dumb ?
[02:29] <visik7> I can't understand why I can't set a background for each workspace
[02:30] <Shannon1> and I notice its in /lib/modules/2.6.19.386/extra  not etc modules
[02:32] <Shannon1> asimon: I dont have any etc/modules I have modprobe.d and modutils
[02:33] <Shannon1> Im I missin something?
[02:33] <gekko`> i had read somewhere that you can mount .bin/.cue files w/o having to burn them, anybody knows how?
[02:33] <asimon> Shannon1: Normaly there is a /etc/modules file. But the format is easy. Every single line contains a name of a module to load. Lines starting with # are ignored
[02:35] <asimon> Shannon1: See here for my /etc/modules file:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19843 , so I recommend to just create one and add the two modules you want to load automatically
[02:36] <Shannon1> asimon: ah ha! a module file,, was looking fo rfolder. your right ,, there is a modules file,,
[02:36] <tlp> So, I've installed libxine-extracodecs and yet Amarok still refuses to play mp3s.
[02:36] <tlp> It will happily play oggs, though.
[02:36] <asimon> Shannon1: Ah, I should have mentioned that.
[02:37] <Shannon1> so if I just add ltmodem and ltserial thats it?
[02:37] <Shannon1> dont I have to put down a route of some sort, so it can find it easily
[02:38] <asimon> Shannon1: It should work, modprobe will know where to find the modules.
[02:39] <Shannon1> ill reboot and let you know, in a minute,, dont go away  ;)
[02:43] <jbirdAngel> Hello
[02:45] <jbirdAngel> does the proprietary software, windows media player, quicktime, etc. can they play the open source ogg mp3 alternative and the open source .mov /.avi type alternative?
[02:46] <Shannon1> asimon: it worked like a charm,, thx very much,, your a doll xxx
[02:46] <asimon> Shannon1: Good. :)
[02:46] <Shannon1> have a nice evening.. all..
[02:55] <coachj> class tonight at ubuntu-classroom
[02:56] <omeow> What will it be about?
[02:58] <Ireclan> Who maintains the Application Handbooks?
[03:00] <Dodger_> omeow: tonight is the intro to IRC class
[03:01] <Dodger_> which, i have to wonder
[03:01] <omeow> How are you going to communicate with people if they're new to IRC?
[03:01] <Dodger_> precisely :P
[03:01] <omeow> Obviously, they won't be using it at the time?
[03:01] <Dodger_> i imagine the class goes a little more in depth than just connecting and joining a channel
[03:02] <omeow> Oh well... nothing new for me there.
[03:02] <omeow> Give me a poke when it'll be about how to manage start up services/speeding up the boot process. :)
[03:04] <Ireclan> Errrrrm..........
 Who maintains the Application Handbooks?
[03:05] <neoncode> Do MSN webcams work in the new version of Kopete?
[03:07] <claudio> hi
[03:07] <omeow> hello
[03:07] <Ireclan> I suppose no one knows what I'm talking about...
[03:07] <claudio> i need some help
[03:07] <claudio> anyone pls
[03:07] <Ireclan> You know the Kubuntu Desktop Guide?
[03:08] <omeow> Ireclan, I suppose that would be listed on the first page of the handbook?
[03:08] <Dodger_> claudio: help with what?
[03:08] <claudio> basically make amaroK play mp3
[03:09] <claudio> any help Dodger?
[03:09] <Ireclan> Ok. So, how do I access the handbook for a particular application?
[03:09] <omeow> Ireclan, press f1 while in the application?
[03:10] <Ireclan> Oh! So, there are no online versions?
[03:10] <omeow> Need to have the handbook installed, obviously. But I think the kde helpcenter is a searchable database of all these handbooks.
[03:10] <omeow> I think that depends per application.
[03:10] <omeow> Which handbook are you looking for?
[03:11] <Dodger_> hold on claudio
[03:11] <claudio> pls guys help me :)
[03:11] <claudio> ok Dodger
[03:11] <Dodger_> sorry... trying to remember how i did this   -  try installing the libxine-extracodecs package
[03:11] <Dodger_> and setting amarok to use the xine engine
[03:12] <Ireclan> As many as I can access and print. I don't yet know how to print from Kubuntu.
[03:12] <claudio> ok, but i cant find that extracodescs
[03:12] <Ireclan> I'm speaking from my windows partition currently.
[03:12] <omeow> claudio, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[03:13] <omeow> Ireclan, what keeps you from printing in kubuntu?
[03:13] <claudio> yaeh i have tried that Dodger
[03:14] <claudio> im not able to find those "extracodecs"
[03:14] <omeow> Read the page I linked to yet, claudio?
[03:14] <claudio> ys i have
[03:14] <omeow> Honestly?
[03:14] <Dodger_> run 'aptitude search libxine-extracodecs' in a terminal
[03:15] <claudio> ok typing now
[03:15] <omeow> It won't find the package, because you haven't set up the universe and multiverse repositories.
[03:15] <Ireclan> I don't know how. I'm a total Linux noob. Before touching ANYTHING on my newly installed Kubuntu system, I figured I'd read up and get informed, you know?
[03:15] <omeow> If you really had read the page I linked to, you would have known.
[03:16] <Dodger_> ah... good call omeow
[03:16] <claudio> yes thats it omeow the repositories
[03:16] <omeow> Ireclan, which printer do you have?
[03:17] <claudio> that particular package must be in universe right?
[03:17] <omeow> Most probably.
[03:18] <claudio> ok, coz i ran apt-get and nothing happen
[03:18] <claudio> thanx guys
[03:18] <omeow> read the page yet? :) it links to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:18] <Ireclan> HP Deskjet 832C.
[03:18] <claudio> thanx omeow & Dodger
[03:19] <omeow> Ireclan, I don't think you'll have much problems setting up a local printer on kubuntu. I haven't tried a network printer, because there's no interface for it it seems. Lots of text-file editing, etc.
[03:20] <omeow> What you do is, you go to "System Settings" then printers, add printer, then follow the wizard.
[03:20] <omeow> Go reboot and I'll help some more if I can.
[03:20] <Ireclan> Ah. OK. I'll do that later, after I finish the Desktop Guide.
[03:21] <omeow> You mean finish printing it? :)
[03:21] <edu> How Can I set up my Lucent Winmodem? (with the K7 kernel)
[03:21] <Ireclan> I am curios though...Why do some people use GNOME, yet others KDE? Surely there are reasons...
[03:22] <Ireclan> *curious
[03:22] <omeow> Some people like different looks and feels.
[03:22] <claudio> i prefer KDE
[03:22] <omeow> Must be the reason why you're using kubuntu then, eh? ;)
[03:22] <claudio> exactly omeow
[03:23] <omeow> I must say Ireclan, you seem to be one of the few that actually reads the desktop guide.
[03:23] <claudio> basically i came from other KDE based distro so...
[03:23] <omeow> You probably won't have any trouble installing extra audio codecs for mp3 playback.
[03:24] <Ireclan> I really wanted Ubuntu. But Ubuntu would not install. Kubuntu did. Not only did Kubuntu install, it did so much faster than Ubuntu attempted to.
[03:24] <claudio> ok omeow, my mistake must in the repositories
[03:24] <omeow> How come ubuntu did not install?
[03:25] <Ireclan> It just...hung, around step 2.
[03:25] <edu> Mhhhhhhhh KDE is superior than GNOME, not only in the visuals, but also in usuability (sorry for my little English9
[03:25] <omeow> Let's not start about that again... :)
[03:25] <Ireclan> No error message, nothing.
[03:25] <edu> mhh flames
[03:25] <omeow> Certainly strange.
[03:25] <Ireclan> The window for step 2 just stopped rendering at a certain point.
[03:26] <omeow> I think that happened for me too once. I was trying out the DVD for kubuntu.
[03:26] <Ireclan> The hard drive was still whirling, and the CD drive was lighting up, but nothing ever happened.
[03:27] <Ireclan> After waiting 15 minutes, I just turned it off.
[03:27] <Ireclan> Then I tried graphical safe mode.
[03:27] <claudio> ok god Ireclan
[03:27] <Ireclan> THAT was fun.
[03:27] <Ireclan> X-Server crashed on me IMMEDIATLY.
[03:27] <claudio> i thinsk thats frustattinh
[03:28] <edu> Ireclan, do you use a PC or a laptop?
[03:28] <Ireclan> PC.
[03:28] <edu> how old is it?
[03:28] <claudio> i use laptop edu
[03:28] <larson9999> well, this is a little goofy.  i've been getting lockups lately.  since i installed a buch of stuff via unorthodox methods, i figured i'd reinstall.  i did reinstall but for some reason my network card isn't recognized now.  never had a problem with this card before.  booted to windows and it works fine.
[03:29] <Ireclan> What was funny was when Kubuntu loaded step 2 in a jiffy.
[03:29] <Ireclan> NO PROBLEMS.
[03:29] <Ireclan> AT ALL.
[03:29] <claudio> in fact kubuntu runs everything in my acer
[03:29] <Ireclan> Weird, huh?
[03:30] <Ireclan> Edu, my PC is about a year old.
[03:30] <Ireclan> HP.
[03:30] <Ireclan> Anywho, so that's why I use KDE.
[03:31] <Ireclan> It's not like I really had a choice, but, meh.
[03:31] <Kr4t05> !tell me about nvidia
[03:31] <Kr4t05> Aw...
[03:31] <BrigadierFrog> hello, where the $@%# is xorgcfg in kubuntu?
[03:32] <larson9999> BrigadierFrog, xorg.conf?
[03:32] <Kr4t05> BrigadierFrog: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:32] <omeow> Well, Ireclan, hopefully if you ever get used to KDE and then switch to gnome, you'll notice why some people use gnome but others prefer KDE. I think the difference is quite easy to spot.
[03:32] <Ireclan> After using Kubuntu, I was told I COULD revert to GNOME, but I figured that would be alot of hassel.
[03:32] <BrigadierFrog> no no, the program that lets you generate the xorg.conf file through questions
[03:32] <BrigadierFrog> xorgcfg
[03:32] <Kr4t05> !tell me about automatix
[03:33] <Ireclan> So, I have one burning question...
[03:33] <larson9999> i can't figure out how anyone would like gnome.  but that's just me.
[03:33] <edu> hahahaha
[03:33] <Ireclan> Are there dial-up hardware modems?
[03:33] <edu> i think gnome is like windows 95 with a nicer theme hahahhaha
[03:34] <edu> but it's easier for developers, the gtk envioroment, or that's what they say.
[03:34] <CVirus> how can I refresh my KDE menu ?
[03:34] <claudio> only for old ISA slots Ireclan
[03:34] <Ireclan> ...You're kidding...
[03:35] <claudio> no hhehe
[03:35] <omeow> CVirus, press F2 and type kbuildsycoca then click run.
[03:35] <omeow> (or press enter)
[03:35] <Ireclan> So, now I HAVE to run the dreaded Winmodem guantlet?
[03:35] <edu> Ireclan
[03:35] <edu> I am using a hardware dial up modem.
[03:35] <edu> Right now.
[03:35] <CVirus> omeow: Thanks
[03:35] <Ireclan> !!!
[03:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about !! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:35] <edu> Is on the serial port.
[03:35] <Ireclan> REALLY?!
[03:35] <edu> It's an US Robotics 56k EXT
[03:35] <edu> from the year 98
[03:36] <edu> look at google
[03:36] <Ireclan> Hmmmmm.......
[03:36] <edu> it's the most sold modem at that time, I think...
[03:36] <Ireclan> Any idea who would carry such a thing?
[03:36] <omeow> CVirus, I meant alt+f2 by the way. :)
[03:36] <edu> and as you can see, it has a great quality (it serves as in the first day)
[03:37] <edu> Ireclan, are you interested in that modem?
[03:37] <CVirus> omeow: i ran kbuildsycoca in whatever way :-p
[03:37] <omeow> Sure, just thought I'd clarify.
[03:37] <edu> They sell it today, but it's...expensive, compared to the soft modems :-(
[03:38] <edu> Perhaps you could see in a second hand store, at a good price, if you can't then look at the internet.
[03:38] <claudio> ok guys im leaving, thanx again. bye
[03:38] <Ireclan> Sure I'm interested in a Hardware modem. They're a snap for Kubuntu to use, when compared with Winmodems. Right?
[03:38] <edu> Right
[03:39] <edu> but I have a LT Winmodem and it worked ....however! it worked with the i386 kernel, nor with k7!
[03:40] <Ireclan> So, would Wal-mart or Radio Shack carry these "Hard" modems, perhapse?
[03:40] <edu> Perhaps
[03:40] <edu> You live in the USA?
[03:40] <Ireclan> Yep.
[03:40] <carlos> tuxtux
[03:41] <edu> wait a second
[03:42] <Hawkwind> Ireclan: Walmart doesn't but places like BestBuy have them for about $30 as I used one and bought one from there about 5 years ago when I started out on Linux
[03:44] <edu> hey
[03:44] <edu> one question
[03:44] <edu> a controller based modem is the same as a win modem, isn't it?
[03:44] <Ireclan> I believe so.
[03:45] <Ireclan> Wait.......no........
[03:45] <edu> http://wwwhttp://www.usr.com/support/product-template.asp?prod=5686e.usr.com/support/product-template.asp?prod=5686e+
[03:45] <Ireclan> I believe a controllerLESS modem is the same.
[03:45] <edu> beacuse this modem seems to have linux support
[03:45] <edu> and it's newer than mine
[03:46] <edu> (and uglier, lol)
[03:46] <edu>  Modem is compatible with Windows Server 2003, XP 64 bit, Server 2003 64 bit, XP, Windows NT 4.0, Windows 2000, Windows ME, Windows 98, Windows 95, Windows 3.1, Linux and DOS.**
[03:47] <edu> i think you could buy that one
[03:47] <Ireclan> I could....
[03:47] <soulrider> hi everyone
[03:47] <soulrider> i again lost my grub :P
[03:47] <Dark_Oppressor> is there a way to make double clicking icons open them, and single clicking just selecting them?
[03:47] <soulrider> im following the instructions ont he site but im not being able to recover it
[03:47] <edu> However, isn't it a bit..expansive?
[03:48] <edu> http://www.productshippingcenter.com/cgi-bin/ShoppingCart.asp?msg=&vcid=UR
[03:48] <edu> 94.95
[03:48] <edu> Maybe you could find the older one cheaper
[03:49] <Ireclan> Ya. Perhapse. Or, if all else fails, I run the dreaded Winmodem gauntlet.
[03:51] <billytwowilly> hey, when are the reps going to be un screwed up?
[03:52] <billytwowilly> err. repos
[03:52] <jott_> Ireclan: go to ebay and get a good old us robotics v92 modem for 1-5$ ...
[03:54] <edu> so, is there anyway of setting up the lt modem in the k7 kernel?
[03:54] <Ireclan> Perhapse....
[03:55] <Ireclan> Oh. Well, the Desktop Guide claims there MIGHT be. Not sure.
[03:55] <edu> mhhhh
[03:59] <Josh> Tommy
[03:59] <Josh> hi
[03:59] <Josh> wtf
[03:59] <Josh> is
[03:59] <Josh> this
[04:00] <Josh> /s -m irc.efak.net -j #efak
[04:00] <Josh> /s -m irc.efak.net -j #efak
[04:00] <Josh> /s -m irc.efak.net -j #efak
[04:00] <Josh> /s -m irc.efak.net -j #efak
[04:00] <Josh> /s -m irc.efak.net -j #efak
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[04:00] <Hawkwind> Josh: Please stop
[04:00] <Josh> /s -m irc.efak.net -j #efak
[04:00] <Hawkwind> !ops
[04:00] <Josh> /s -m irc.efak.net -j #efak
[04:00] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, uniq, Mez, jpatric, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, or gnomefreak
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[04:00] <TehKewl1> he set a timer
[04:00] <Hawkwind> nalioth: Thank you :)
[04:00] <nalioth> boy that /exec'll get ya every time
 <3 Kirby
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[04:01] <soulrider> Hawkwind: im gonna need you help 0=)
[04:01] <TehKewl1> ok ban time
[04:01] <Hawkwind> soulrider: With ?
[04:01] <soulrider> recovering my grub
[04:01] <Josh> il ban your face
[04:01] <soulrider> i already tried everything in the wiki
[04:01] <TehKewl1> trolling too
[04:01] <soulrider> and coulnt fix it
[04:01] <Josh> il ban your face
[04:01] <Hawkwind> soulrider: I have no idea.  I know lilo and not grub unfortunately
[04:01] <Josh> il ban your face TehKewl1
[04:02] <soulrider> aww :(
[04:02] <Hawkwind> nalioth: Please get rid of this guy for us
[04:02] <Josh> get rid of your self
[04:02] <sotired> hey all...
[04:02] <soulrider> hey
[04:02] <Hawkwind> Hey there sotired
[04:03] <sotired> this isnt really a kubuntu issue as much as ubuntu issue...but i cant find an answer and this room has always been helpful
[04:05] <sotired> when i plug in my wireles card in the live cd environment it works, however when i install, it will not work, whats worse is once i plug it in ubuntu will not run any porgrams, inluding network config and terminal
[04:05] <sotired> im using gnome on a laptop
[04:05] <soulrider> yay, Hawkwind i found some instruction on the forums and i think i did it
[04:05] <soulrider> ill eb right back :)
[04:08] <goop2> Im having trouble with AmaroK.. it wont make any noise :/
[04:09] <noiesmo> goop2, sudo apt-get install libmad0 libxine-extracodecs
[04:09] <noiesmo> goop2, set amarok to use xine engine
[04:10] <noiesmo> goop2, you'll need universe and multiverse repos
[04:10] <shadeofgrey> sup everybody
[04:11] <shadeofgrey> where are fonts stored and how do i add new ones?
[04:11] <goop2> noiesmo: alright Ill give it a try.. thanks :)
[04:11] <shadeofgrey> i have over a thousand .ttf fonts i want avaiklable to my user
[04:11] <TehKewl1> try the font installer
[04:11] <TehKewl1> in the system settings
[04:11] <noiesmo> goop2, np heres a good guide for http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[04:20] <typer84> hi guys
[04:20] <typer84> I'm a total NOOB
[04:20] <TehKewl1> ok ok
[04:20] <typer84> anyone can help me?
[04:20] <TehKewl1> I can help noobs
[04:20] <typer84> thanks
[04:20] <shadeofgrey> olkay
[04:20] <typer84> I have nvidia driver for my geforce 6600
[04:20] <shadeofgrey> how the hell do you turn off milkitary time??
[04:21] <typer84> how can I install it?
[04:21] <TehKewl1> what kind of file?
[04:21] <TehKewl1> deb?
[04:21] <typer84> .run
[04:21] <thasa42> where are knotes saved?
[04:22] <TehKewl1> hmm
[04:22] <typer84> i have this NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8762-pkg1.run
[04:23] <TehKewl1> umm, did you try installing it in adept
[04:23] <typer84> how? total noob....
[04:23] <TehKewl1> though I think NVIDIA drivers come default
[04:23] <TehKewl1> go to the K menu and then system settings
[04:24] <Hawkwind> !nvidia > typer84
[04:24] <Hawkwind> typer84: Follow the instructions the bot just told you in pm
[04:24] <TehKewl1> your replacing me with a bot :(
[04:24] <typer84> ok I try
[04:27] <cerda> is there any reason for my torrents are slow because KTorrent???
[04:28] <TehKewl1> what is your internet speed?
[04:29] <cerda> 300kbps
[04:29] <TehKewl1> and what are you getting
[04:29] <edu> bye
[04:29] <TehKewl1> in Ktorrent
[04:30] <cerda> actually the download rate is not estable
[04:30] <typer84> I can't find Administration then Synaptic Package Manager
[04:30] <TehKewl1> so try getting azureus
[04:30] <cerda> right now im getting 8, 10, 11, 13, 14, 4, 5, 2, 1 ,2 kb/seg in a new torrent
[04:31] <TehKewl1> how many seeds?
[04:31] <cerda> it says 20 Peers
[04:31] <Hawkwind> How many seeds though
[04:32] <Hawkwind> Torrents usually start off slow then speed up
[04:32] <cerda> 1281
[04:32] <TehKewl1> woah
[04:32] <cerda> yes i know
[04:32] <TehKewl1> thats a fair bit
[04:32] <TehKewl1> try getting azureus
[04:32] <cerda> yes ill do it
[04:32] <TehKewl1> it's generally quite good
[04:33] <thasa42> and what would the client have to do with the speed?
[04:34] <TehKewl1> depends... if Ktorrent isnt working properly
[04:34] <thasa42> then it's the settings..
[04:34] <cerda> ill just try azureus and see what i get
[04:34] <cerda> thasa42 do u use it?
[04:35] <thasa42> azureus?ktorrent? other client?
[04:36] <cerda> ktorrent
[04:36] <thasa42> no.
[04:41] <Prinz> why kde don't shutdown correctly?
[04:42] <marxluz> hello
[04:42] <Prinz> hi
[04:42] <marxluz> i'm new in the room
[04:43] <Prinz> I too..
[04:43] <marxluz> i'm experimenting kubuntu
[04:43] <marxluz> where r u from?
[04:43] <BR_Prinz> I'm from Brazil
[04:43] <marxluz> me 2
[04:44] <BR_Prinz> lol
[04:44] <marxluz> =)
[04:45] <marxluz> d qual estado vc ?
[04:45] <BR_Prinz> Rondnia
[04:45] <Hawkwind> !pt
[04:45] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[04:46] <BR_Prinz> lol... he's cutting us
[04:47] <marxluz> how can i install xgl in kubuntu?
[04:47] <Hawkwind> !xgl > marxluz
[04:54] <DFM> Good evening all.
[04:55] <DFM> Looking for advise on getting a Linksys wpc11 v1 working on Kubuntu Dapper.
[04:56] <DFM> I have downloaded the XP driver and loaded it using ndiswrapper but it will only show the driver as being installed.
[04:56] <DFM> Cannot locate the card.
[04:56] <DFM> Have searched the forums and all I can find is info on installing the v4 card.
[04:57] <DFM> Does anyone know of the v1 card will work and if so can you point me in the right direction to learn how to make it work?
[05:00] <noiesmo> DFM, is this a laptop or norm system
[05:00] <apeman2020> Hello all..
[05:00] <apeman2020> does anyone use a mail server hosted on there ubuntu box?
[05:01] <DFM> sorry it is a Thinkpad a21m
[05:01] <dek> somebody help me to configure my network with my Windows XP PC, Samba doesn't seem to recognise the other PC shared drives
[05:01] <noiesmo> DFM, built in card then or pcmcia
[05:01] <DFM> pcmcia
[05:01] <DFM> Linksys WPC11 v1
[05:02] <noiesmo> DFM, ok so cards in when you boot check dmesg see if kernel sees it
[05:02] <mmorris> is it possible to start a non-kubuntu application for a terminal in the root shell?  B/c the command I want to run must be ran from the root shell, therefore I can't just make an app for it without having to type in the <sudo -i> and then at the password field having to ender <password>
[05:02] <nixternal> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue8
[05:03] <DFM> I have removed the driver listed for the v4 card since I can't find a driver for the v1
[05:03] <DFM> should I reinstall the v4 driver then reboot to see what the dmesg says?
[05:03] <mmorris> can anyone help?
[05:03] <DFM> I doubt the v4 driver will work but it's all I found
[05:03] <doppelganger> mike?
[05:04] <noiesmo> DFM, yeh i would i found my d-link ard liked to be in on boot and then dmesg shows it then i used ndiswrapper to install driver
[05:04] <mmorris> My boy
[05:04] <doppelganger> whassssaaap
[05:04] <mmorris> My boy
[05:04] <doppelganger> ;)
[05:04] <plugs> once i've installed a program in wine, how do i run it?
[05:04] <mmorris> I'm trying to play around with this stinkin computer
[05:04] <mmorris> It's killin me
[05:05] <DFM> forgive since I have been playing with Linux for just over a year but I am unfamiliar with dmesg.
[05:05] <nnn0> :)
[05:05] <mmorris> Hey... watch this...
[05:05] <doppelganger> hey, in the chat room type "/join #trey
[05:05] <DFM> What is it and how do I get to it?
[05:05] <nnn0> ehehe
[05:05] <noiesmo> DFM, ok open terminal or konsole and type dmesg
[05:05] <DFM> duh that's what I was thinking but unsure
[05:06] <DFM> let me reinstall the driver and reboot and I will be right back, thanks
[05:06] <IRCLemur> Hello! :)
[05:06] <rr72> who logs this channel besides the bot who was not here on the 24th of july
[05:06] <noiesmo> DFM, ok reboot card pluged in then check dmesg then install driver
[05:06] <DFM> ok
[05:08] <plugs> how do i run a program in wine after i install it?
[05:09] <rr72> May I /msg someone who logs this channel? The bot wasn't here.
[05:09] <CVirus> plugs: wine prog.exe
[05:09] <IRCLemur> Let me first state that I'm on a Dell Inspiron with a 5.59GB HD. Windows2000 is currently running & I have a strong wish to repartition my drive & install Kubuntu dual boot with windows....
[05:09] <IRCLemur> Is it possible? lol
[05:10] <DFM> I think it is but you may not be able to install a lot of packages.
[05:11] <IRCLemur> I have an external HD for files.... but the BIOS of this laptop does not support USB boot. :(
[05:11] <Kr4t05> IRCLemur: get a new hard drive for your laptop. www.newegg.com
[05:11] <IRCLemur> I knew that was going to be one of the first things said... lol
[05:12] <Kr4t05> If you manage to squeeze both Windows and Ubuntu onto 5.59GB, I will applaud you.
[05:12] <rr72> just don't use kde
[05:13] <Kr4t05> IRCLemur: You might manage it with Xubuntu.
[05:13] <IRCLemur> is there no way to boot from USB in my case?
[05:13] <Kr4t05> IRCLemur: Unless you fiind a BIOS update that will allow it.
[05:13] <DFM> not if you bios doesn't support it
[05:15] <DFM> Ok Noiesmo I have rebooted and ran the dmesg. What am I looking for?
[05:15] <noiesmo> DFM, any thing that mentions your wifi
[05:18] <noiesmo> DFM, also do lspci and see if cards there
[05:18] <noiesmo> DFM, if its there in lspci then try install driver with ndiswrapper there is ndisgtk a gui for ndiswrapper also
[05:19] <DFM> ok. ouotput is long. I believe it is showing up as eth1 and says it is a prism 1
[05:19] <DFM> the eth0 is built in
[05:19] <DFM> I am going to check now and see if it shows both. it usually does but eth0 doesn't have an IP
[05:20] <DFM> ok in system settings under network settings it shows both like I said. Let me run the lspci and see if it's there
[05:21] <noiesmo> DFM, k
[05:22] <DFM> the lspci only list the built in intel nic
[05:22] <rr72> how do i get rid of flicker?
[05:22] <rr72> i see horizontal lines on my screen onl on the right side in the middle
[05:22] <noiesmo> DFM, hmmm it should have listed the card
[05:22] <DFM> I have tried this with 2 different brands of card's and neither show up in the lspci
[05:23] <noiesmo> DFM, whats uname -a return
[05:24] <DFM> linux thinkpad 2.6.15-26-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT and then the date
[05:24] <rr72> i even see the lines on the login screen for kdm
[05:24] <noiesmo> DFM, ok same as my laptop odd it should have see a card
[05:24] <AegeanLinux> ~qtcurve
[05:25] <rr72> who logs this channel? the bot wasnt here when i need logs
[05:25] <AegeanLinux> !qtcurve
[05:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about qtcurve - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:25] <crimsun> rr72: during what period?
[05:25] <DFM> neither of the cards show up and one is new. this was a working win98 with working pcmcia slot before I loaded Dapper
[05:26] <rr72> the 24th of july -6:00 gmt time
[05:26] <DFM> I am not above reloading the whole thing with the card in the slot if I need to
[05:26] <DFM> I got the laptop to learn with anyway
[05:26] <noiesmo> DFM, can you get it on line with wire
[05:26] <DFM> on now
[05:27] <noiesmo> DFM, if so maybe do a dist-upgrade
[05:27] <DFM> in irc with my win machine and have laptop next to me
[05:27] <DFM> ok I have added all the repositories and done an apt-get update and upgrade fromt he shell
[05:28] <DFM> is that what you are talking about?
[05:28] <rr72> crimsun~ is that u?
[05:28] <noiesmo> DFM, yes but try a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:28] <DFM> k
[05:29] <mmorris_> join #trey
[05:29] <DFM> says an upgrade will be 12k and not need any additional disk space
[05:29] <DFM> in process
[05:29] <rr72> who logs this channel? i would like to speak with a person not a bot since the bot wasnt here when i need logs
[05:29] <crimsun> rr72: I don't know of any other official logger.
[05:29] <noiesmo> DFM, how much is download
[05:29] <DFM> 12k
[05:30] <DFM> 12kB
[05:31] <DFM> could it be because I installed a 686 kernel/
[05:31] <noiesmo> DFM, you could try 386 I just noticed im on 386 might help my laptops a p3 800mhz
[05:31] <rr72> !logs > ubotu
[05:32] <DFM> Mine is a p3 700
[05:32] <rr72> pIII 850mhz coppermine
[05:32] <rr72> i use 686 stuff fine
[05:33] <DFM> I was reading that the 686 kernel was for p2 and p3 so I installed it and seen boost in performance
[05:33] <DFM> i can boot into a 386 kernel and try it there
[05:33] <noiesmo> DFM, mine runs nice on 386
[05:33] <noiesmo> DFM, yep do
[05:33] <DFM> k
[05:33] <soulrider> hey
[05:33] <soulrider> yay today i recovered my grub by myself :P
[05:34] <soulrider> following the instructions and using my common sense: P
[05:34] <rr72> soulrider~ do u remember my signal 11 error?
[05:35] <DFM> be right back my daughter wants something to eat
[05:35] <rr72> lmao
[05:35] <soulrider> yea
[05:35] <soulrider> i think i remember you mentioned it
[05:35] <soulrider> ad signal 11 error sounds so sci fi movie lol
[05:37] <rr72> weak ago it happend, i need logs from the 24th to help me problem
[05:37] <rr72> my*
[05:37] <DaemonLee> Okay, quick question for ya'll.
[05:37] <soulrider> :O
[05:37] <DaemonLee> How the hell do I make my clock non-military time?
[05:37] <soulrider> lol
[05:38] <soulrider> 42 rulz :P
[05:38] <soulrider> 24*
[05:38] <DaemonLee> I mean, I'm a fan and everything...
[05:38] <DaemonLee> and I know military time and have to use it on forms...
[05:38] <DaemonLee> but. It's not good for impulse look.
[05:38] <soulrider> how about
[05:38] <soulrider> right click > date and time format
[05:38] <DaemonLee> Like "CRAP! WHAT TIME IS IT?!"
[05:38] <shadeofgrey> i need to know the answer to that same questioon
[05:38] <soulrider> maybe you can change it there
[05:38] <shadeofgrey> no rthats not ikt
[05:38] <shadeofgrey> i already checked there
[05:39] <soulrider> uhm
[05:39] <DaemonLee> BRB
[05:39] <soulrider> i dont know :/
[05:39] <soulrider> since we use 24 hour format here it doesnt really bother me
[05:40] <soulrider> but i allways get confused with 12 pm and 12 am
[05:40] <DaemonLee> What the hell...
[05:40] <DaemonLee> I'm logging out and now Ubuntu refuses to close XCHAT.
[05:41] <soulrider> :/
[05:41] <noiesmo> DFM, did the 386 kernel make any diff
[05:41] <DFM> just got back from getting my daughter some food. let me log into kde and check
[05:42] <DaemonLee> Help.
[05:42] <noiesmo> DFM, np ;)
[05:42] <DaemonLee> Tower possessed. Won't let me log out. Kinda stuck at XCHAT and AMSN.
[05:42] <rr72> who can get me a log of this channel for the 24th of july?
[05:43] <dek> !printers
[05:43] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[05:44] <DFM> noiesmo, same thing nothing showing up in lspci
[05:45] <noiesmo> DFM, bugger
[05:45] <DFM> I am wandering if this card will even work with Linux
[05:45] <dek> I get the "Unable to find any workgroups in your local network" error in Samba Shares when trying to get to my network, from Windows XP it works fine. What's wrong?
[05:46] <mmorris_> join #22
[05:46] <noiesmo> DFM, whats the model again
[05:46] <mmorris_> can people join that channel?
[05:46] <soulrider> rr72: i managed to get ET working today, with sound and everything
[05:47] <mmorris_> somebody try...
[05:47] <soulrider> i see you
[05:47] <DFM> thinkpad a21m and the card is a Linksys WPC11 no version listed. I believe it's the first one.
[05:48] <DFM> I really want to but one listed as works out of the box with Linux but I figured if I could make one of the 2 that I had work why spend money right?
[05:48] <nixternal> !fridge
[05:48] <ubotu> fridge is the Ubuntu's Community News website, and can be found at http://fridge.ubuntu.com
[05:50] <wiking> hi
[05:50] <wiking> ive just installed kubuntu
[05:50] <soulrider> :)
[05:50] <wiking> however during install it didnt let me specify root password?
[05:50] <soulrider> wiking: you wont regret it
[05:50] <soulrider> nope
[05:51] <wiking> yeah i like it already
[05:51] <soulrider> in kubuntu you dont use the root account
[05:51] <soulrider> you use sudo <command>
[05:51] <wiking> well i need to some terminal work as root
[05:51] <soulrider> chich allows you to ahve root permissios with your account
[05:51] <soulrider> and it will prompt for a password, which happens to be your account pass
[05:51] <wiking> ok so "root" doesnt really exist?
[05:51] <DFM> noiesmo, i just removed the card from slot 1 and put into slot 0 and then ran dmesg and it showed pccard ejected and then pcmcia card inserted into slot 0
[05:52] <DFM> yes it does if you want to activate it
[05:52] <rr72> soulrider~ cool
[05:52] <soulrider> i believe it does but the password is random
[05:52] <soulrider> so you cant really use it
[05:52] <DFM> yes
[05:52] <wiking> ok thx
[05:52] <soulrider> just remember, if you need to run somethign as root just type sudo before everything
[05:52] <wiking> gotten used to having root account on other distros and havent used sudo b4
[05:52] <DFM> only difference I found is that when you sudo a command you go root for that command only
[05:52] <soulrider> well, i think you can use sudo su -
[05:52] <mmorris_>  Can somebody tell me how I can customize my taskbar?
[05:53] <soulrider> and that will grant you root permissions
[05:53] <DFM> no you cannot su -
[05:53] <wiking> cheers soulrider
[05:53] <soulrider> DFM:  you cant?
[05:53] <soulrider> ive used it :/ at  least in the lvie CD
[05:53] <soulrider> live*
[05:53] <DFM> only sudo unless you activate root account then su - command works
[05:53] <noiesmo> DFM, anything in lspci after replugging card
[05:54] <DFM> nothing
[05:54] <wiking> toss windooze out
[05:54] <soulrider> yea
[05:54] <soulrider> i decided i was gonna have win only for games
[05:54] <soulrider> and strictly for games
[05:54] <noiesmo> DFM, just been googling and not much there
[05:54] <soulrider> i wont allow myself to install anythign else
[05:55] <TehKewl1> I'm having trouble getting tor to run
[05:55] <DFM> I know that's how I ended up here
[05:55] <wiking> yea dunno if cedega will ever amount to something really useful
[05:55] <soulrider> and its not free :(
[05:55] <TehKewl1> you can use CVS though
[05:55] <soulrider> :/
[05:56] <wiking> wouldnt mind paying small fee if it meant no more windooze forever
[05:56] <wiking> dont think CVS does installers properly
[05:56] <wiking> i mean winshield
[05:57] <soulrider> i never payed for windoze in my life: P
[05:57] <noiesmo> DFM, http://www.die.net/doc/linux/HOWTO/mini/Wireless-Link-sys-WPC11/x50.html
[05:57] <DFM> thanks let me look
[05:58] <noiesmo> dfmhttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=462391
[05:58] <noiesmo> dfm http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=462391
[05:58] <noiesmo> DFM, this is debian info but ubuntu based on debian might help
[05:58] <jack__> howto auto turn on the numlock when i login
[05:58] <DFM> true
[05:59] <doppelganger> what audio  program can play a wma file?
[05:59] <doppelganger> i've got the codecs32 pack and nothing i've got can play this file
[05:59] <soulrider> doppelganger: i think you need to install the codecs
[05:59] <noiesmo> DFM, here chech this http://jason.379.com/node/2
[05:59] <soulrider> oh
[05:59] <Dark_Oppressor> ive got a 7900 gt and two monitors, and have installed nvidia-glx;  I can configure the resolution and whatnot for monitor 1, but my second monitor doesnt even appear to be detected, do i need to edit xorg.conf to add in my other monitor?
[05:59] <doppelganger> amarok, mplayer, vlc, nothing
[05:59] <noiesmo> c/chech/check
[05:59] <doppelganger> i've got all kinds of codecs
[05:59] <soulrider> uhm.. you should considering re encoding those WMA files
[06:00] <noiesmo> DFM, this link suggest card in when install ubuntu
[06:00] <noiesmo> DFM, http://jason.379.com/node/2
[06:01] <IRCLemur> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330015344444 <-- I just purchased that.... FINALLY.... I bought a new drive.
[06:01] <noiesmo> doppelganger, try install libxine-extracodecs
[06:02] <DFM> Think I will reinstall with card in
[06:02] <noiesmo> DFM, seems to be what worked for jason from http://jason.379.com/node/2
[06:02] <DarthVader> hello, I'v noticed that since KDE 3.5.4 update, Kate is displaying a LOT of debug statement (in the console) .. is there a way to switch that off? Or a new version of Kate somewhere? Thanks.
[06:02] <doppelganger> i'll see if i have that, thanks noi
[06:02] <DFM> doppelganger you could install automatix which I believe will install about every codec you need
[06:03] <doppelganger> i used automatix to install what i've got  ;P
[06:03] <doppelganger> i think this file might just be fubar'd
[06:04] <doppelganger> yeah, the extracodecs are installed
[06:04] <doppelganger> guess it's screwed, oh well
[06:06] <noiesmo> doppelganger, please check this for me ls /usr/lib/w32codecs
[06:06] <noiesmo> doppelganger,  also does /usr/lib/win32/ folder exsist
[06:06] <rr72> i don't suggest upgrading to dapper
[06:06] <rr72> all it has been is problems for me
[06:06] <XVampireX> Hey, uhm
[06:07] <doppelganger> no such file or directory  ;S
[06:07] <XVampireX> In konsole can I switch sessions with the keyboard?
[06:07] <the-erm> I like using the su command.  So I can su to a specific user, run some commands yet have it behave as if I were that person logged in su -p doesn't allow this quite right.  It'll make me that user, but when I cd it cd's to MY home not the person I'm sued as.  Anyone know the answer?
[06:07] <XVampireX> like if I have multiple tabs open I could switch between them
[06:07] <doppelganger> i double checked the spelling  ;)
[06:08] <noiesmo> doppelganger, ok mplayer uses w32codecs and i think it looks for them in /usr/lib/win32 or /usr/lib/w32codecs
[06:08] <Hawkwind> the-erm: Setup a traditional root account using 'su passwd'
[06:08] <doppelganger> i'll use search and see what i got
[06:08] <the-erm> Hawkwind: what's a 'traditional' account?
[06:08] <the-erm> Seems to have a root account.
[06:09] <doppelganger> usually distros have a root account that you login to
[06:09] <Hawkwind> the-erm: Traditional, instead of using sudo for everything.
[06:09] <doppelganger> in [k] ubuntu you don't have one by default, although it *is* there
[06:09] <Hawkwind> the-erm: Ubuntu uses sudo for everything, there is no root account by default
[06:09] <doppelganger> you just don't use it, you use sudo commands to act as root
[06:09] <XVampireX> [07:07]  <XVampireX> In konsole can I switch sessions with the keyboard?
[06:09] <the-erm> well ... I sudo passwd, changed it.  now I can log in as root no problem.
[06:10] <the-erm> Just doesn't behave quite like mandriva did in this area.
[06:10] <the-erm> I'll set up a root account.
[06:10] <noiesmo> doppelganger, see if you can find win32codecs.tar then unpack it so as to have /usr/lib/win32codecs
[06:11] <the-erm> Looks like there is one already set up with uid 0.
[06:11] <Hawkwind> I've never dealt with multiple accounts on a box so I'm not sure.  But if the console is logged in as *you* originally then cd should and will always go to *your* home directory, regardless of who you have su'd to
[06:11] <pha1sity> ok this is probably a stupid question, but why can I not su oin a fresh install?
[06:11] <pha1sity> on*
[06:11] <Hawkwind> pha1sity: sudo
[06:11] <Hawkwind> pha1sity: Ubuntu doesn't have a root account by default, it uses sudo
[06:11] <Hawkwind> pha1sity: We just explained that about 8 - 10 lines ago
[06:11] <DFM> not hard to enable root though if you want to
[06:11] <pha1sity> i wasnt looking
[06:12] <noiesmo> doppelganger, check this for win32codecs also http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[06:12] <pha1sity> any particular reason the file manager wont install packages?
[06:13] <Hawkwind> pha1sity: What are you trying to install, and what errors do you get ?  Put any and all errors into a pastebin
[06:13] <rr72> who logs this channel besides the bot who was not here they day i need logs
[06:13] <pha1sity> its on a different comp
[06:13] <doppelganger> i'll check, thanks again noiesmo
[06:13] <pha1sity> lemme get it on irc
[06:13] <the-erm> Actually Hawkwind if you su as yourself then type in cd it takes you to /root su someoneElse cd takes you to their folder su -p and cd it takes you to your folder.
[06:13] <the-erm> At least that's the way it behaves here.
[06:14] <Hawkwind> the-erm: Again, I don't use multiple accounts on a Linux machine so I can't test it
[06:14] <rr72> how do i get rid of flickering on my monitor?
[06:14] <the-erm> :) ok
[06:14] <rr72> its only center right horizontal stripes
[06:14] <Agios> try a different refresh rate
[06:15] <rr72> id like to but kdm isnt working right
[06:15] <rr72> and i need to install the right driver
[06:15] <DFM> 72 I have seen that in the past and found that if you install the correct video driver or Agios said change refresh if should go away
[06:15] <jontec> Is apache enabled in Linux automatically? I have a php file that I want to run locally.
[06:15] <Hawkwind> jontec: Not in Kubuntu it's not
[06:16] <Agios> running the wrong driver could harm your monitor
[06:16] <rr72> dfm i can't install the right driver untill i get logs from this channel on the 24th of july -6 GMT
[06:16] <jontec> How do I do it?
[06:16] <pha1sity_> argh
[06:16] <DFM> oh
[06:16] <jontec> Do I actually have to install it?
[06:16] <Hawkwind> rr72: Why can't you install drivers now ?
[06:16] <Hawkwind> jontec: Yes
[06:16] <thompa> this hp bios sucks
[06:16] <rr72> Agios~ the right one is installed just not the one from the manufacturer
[06:16] <rr72> thompa~ welcome to hp
[06:16] <Agios> ok
[06:17] <rr72> the basic nv is installed
[06:17] <thompa> anything with usb plugged in will not let the hp boot
[06:17] <rr72> i need to install nvidia from nvidia.com but i can't
[06:17] <Agios> what's wrong with nvidia-glx?
[06:17] <thompa> rr72: in windows its the same, wont boot with usb connected
[06:17] <rr72> Agios~ this has happend many times
[06:17] <rr72> thompa~ welcome to HP it sux
[06:18] <jontec> Okay, but before we handle the apache problem, Is there any reason why my password would have changed? I noticed that I wasn't able to access any external storage devices.
[06:18] <thompa> someone told me i need to buy all hp usb devices maybe
[06:18] <rr72> don't have hp sorry
[06:18] <jontec> It gave me the same error that you would receieve if you were on an account that didn't have root priviledges.
[06:18] <rr72> who logs this channel?
[06:18] <rr72> not the bot
[06:18] <thompa> but its working ok otherwise,
[06:19] <rr72> bot was AWOL 7/24/06
[06:19] <jontec> My specific problem is that I can't run sudo or kdesu. T_T And I need to use adept
[06:19] <thompa> thats my birthday
[06:20] <thompa> but im not a bot, i dont think
[06:20] <thompa> i cant rip songs off this cd for some reason,
[06:21] <thompa> none get past 5% , grip
[06:22] <soulrider> thompa, some CDs are copy protected
[06:22] <soulrider> i suggest you use win and anyDVD
[06:22] <jontec> Can anyone tell me why I the password that I've used for kdesu and sudo su now, suddenly, do not work?
[06:22] <soulrider> yes, horrible solution but could work
[06:22] <Hawkwind> rr72: What is it you need from that date in the logs ?
[06:22] <Hawkwind> rr72: And why do YOU not log personally ?
[06:22] <soulrider> Hawkwind: i would fix the grub :)
[06:22] <thompa> soulrider: it wont play either, its actually scratched , its old
[06:23] <rr72> who logs this channel? bot wont help me
[06:23] <Agios> there was an article the other day I read which said use hair jel on cd scratches to fix them temporarily
[06:23] <thompa> im trying to backup am old cd from the 80s
[06:23] <DFM> read same article
[06:24] <thompa> not the hair gel again
[06:24] <Agios> rr72: Hawkwind has offered.
[06:24] <rr72> Agios~ sorry he is on ignore
[06:24] <rr72> he hates me
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> egads.. still looking for the mssing logs.. :)
[06:24] <rr72> Hawkwind~ can i /msg u?
[06:24] <thompa> do i put the hair gel in the cd bay door
[06:24] <soulrider> ohhh, that sucks :( what is it? :P
[06:24] <Hawkwind> rr72: What do you need from the logs on that date ?
[06:25] <Agios> rr72: well, if you have him on ignore then you don't deserve help :)
[06:25] <rr72> better in /msg, might have to queue a few things
[06:25] <Hawkwind> Agios: Heh, so true
[06:25] <rr72> fine i don't want ur help then
[06:25] <Hawkwind> rr72: Just tell me what you need
[06:25] <rr72> the export cmd somone told me to execute
[06:25] <Hawkwind> rr72: If you're looking for a command or something
[06:26] <rr72> somin about gcc version signall 11 rr72 nvidia
[06:26] <rr72> export
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> why not state what the problem is?  someone may rember the fix.
[06:26] <rr72> i have been asking but noone does
[06:26] <rr72> or the 25th depending on the timezone
[06:27] <Hawkwind> rr72: This was on July 24th ?
[06:27] <rr72> or 25th
[06:27] <rr72> the only 2 days missing from ubotu
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> try --force-tls=classic when running the NVIDIA installer
[06:27] <rr72> the file i have was created on the 24th
[06:28] <Hawkwind> rr72: Give me a minute.  Looking for something else, then I'll grep my logs
[06:28] <rr72> kk
[06:28] <knoppix_> Hi
[06:28] <DFM> hi
[06:28] <NamShubCMX> I'm having a problem with my Kubuntu DVD
[06:29] <Hawkwind> Jul 24 20:12:20 <-(  h3sp4wn  )->   rr72: export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 before you run the nvidia program see whether it honors that
[06:29] <NamShubCMX> Im trying to reinstall my system
[06:29] <rr72> ty
[06:29] <Hawkwind> rr72: That what you need ?
[06:29] <rr72> ty
[06:29] <rr72> i knew it was 24 th
[06:29] <Hawkwind> rr72: You're welcome.  Might want to keep those that can greatly help you off of ignore :P
[06:29] <NamShubCMX> but when loading modules, Enterprise Volume Management System says I've got "bad blocks" on dm-0
[06:29] <NamShubCMX> and never installs
[06:30] <rr72> sis i say anything after that a bit?
[06:30] <rr72> *did
[06:30] <the-erm> *yes* set show-all-if-ambiguous on
[06:30] <Hawkwind> rr72: Just that it worked and you said thank you to h3sp4wn
[06:30] <NamShubCMX> can I turn off this module when installing?
[06:30] <rr72> kk
[06:30] <the-erm> That's been driving me crazy
[06:31] <NamShubCMX> does it mean I have a dead HD?
[06:31] <NamShubCMX> (knoppix boots and accesses all drives without problems)
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> ya mean i dident find the answer -->  LIBGL_DRIVER_PATH=/usr/X11R6/lib:/usr/X11R6/lib32   or --->   LIBGL_DRIVER_PATH=/usr/X11R6/lib/nvidia:/usr/X11R6/lib32/nvidia
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:32] <shadeofgrey> okay
[06:32] <shadeofgrey> i knmow this is going to sound stupisd
[06:32] <NamShubCMX> anyone :S
[06:32] <shadeofgrey> but how the hell do i minimize all the windows i have open
[06:32] <rr72> Dr_Willis~ i knew the answer just forgot and my .bash_hostory didnt go taht far back
[06:32] <jontec> -.-
[06:32] <shadeofgrey> furthermore where do i go to set keyboard shortcuts for launching programs and the lkike
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> whast was the answer? lol.. what was the question heh... i missed it.
[06:33] <rr72> i knew both and the bot knew the answer just he was AWOL
[06:33] <Hawkwind> rr72: You should set your .bash_history to save 50,000 commands instead of the default 500
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> You just wanted to know how to set gcc to use  version 3.4 instead of the gcc4 ?
[06:33] <rr72> how do i do that hawk?
[06:34] <Hawkwind> # Keep 50000 lines in .bash_history (default is 500)
[06:34] <Hawkwind> export HISTSIZE=50000
[06:34] <Hawkwind> export HISTFILESIZE=50000
[06:34] <rr72> WTF glxgears doesnt work now
[06:34] <Hawkwind> rr72: Add those 3 lines to your ~/.bashrc file at the bottom, restart your terminal afterwards
[06:34] <Hawkwind> rr72: Add it to both your user and root .bashrc files.
[06:35] <rr72> OMFG
[06:35] <rr72> i broke it now
[06:35] <rr72> my X server configs must be screwed up
[06:35] <rr72> how do i restart my terminal?
[06:35] <shadeofgrey> hey can solmeone plkease tell me how i sset a keyboard shortcut to minimize all open windows?
[06:35] <Hawkwind> rr72: Close it and reopen it
[06:35] <jontec> Is there anyway to reset root password, or just ifgure out how to get into kdesu and sudo su? My password has ceased to work and I cannot access usb disks and Mixer does not work either.
[06:36] <shadeofgrey> ive been told that kde allows for LOTS of keyboard shortcuts and i just need to knmow where to go to set them.
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper     seems to mention the nvidia gcc issue.
[06:36] <Hawkwind> jontec: You can do it by booting to single user mode
[06:36] <jontec> That means absolutely nothing to me, please explain. ^_^
[06:36] <Hawkwind> shadeofgrey: Have you looked in kcontrol at all ?
[06:37] <rr72> everything worked in breezy
[06:37] <shadeofgrey> i dont know what that is or how to yuse
[06:37] <shadeofgrey> it
[06:37] <shadeofgrey> i JUST installed kubuntu yesterday
[06:37] <shadeofgrey> im still struggling to hget a handle on everything
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> it pays to read, read and read some more. :P
[06:37] <rr72> Dr_Willis~ no it aint
[06:38] <soulrider> shadeofgrey: i installed it on monday or somehting
[06:38] <Hawkwind> jontec: This how-to was written when I used Mandriva, might still help you.  It's on my forums:  http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=265.0
[06:38] <soulrider> its not hard to learn actually
[06:38] <soulrider> and theres IRC so you can ask anythign you need
[06:38] <rr72> and now my kmixxer is broke
[06:38] <rr72> i see an X over it
[06:38] <thompa> shadeofgrey: just go to system settings
[06:38] <Hawkwind> shadeofgrey: Type 'kcontrol' into a terminal or when you alt-f2 type it
[06:38] <DFM> I read all the time and stay broke. Where can I get paid Doc?
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> DFM,  quit reading those Romance Novels!
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:38] <rr72> i wish i can revert
[06:38] <Hawkwind> LOL Dr_Willis
[06:38] <rr72> breezy was easy
[06:39] <DFM> damn you flushed me out and here I was hiding in the closet!!!!
[06:39] <Hawkwind> rr72: Dapper is no different, really
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> Ive had no problems with dapper and nvidia or ati.
[06:39] <rr72> then why am i having loads of more problems?
[06:39] <shadeofgrey> okay
[06:39] <shadeofgrey> now
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> did you  Upgrade? or clean intstall?
[06:39] <shadeofgrey> how do i install nvidia displaY drivers
[06:39] <soulrider> !nvidia
[06:39] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:39] <Hawkwind> !nvidia > shadeofgrey
[06:39] <DFM> Dr I seem to be having considerable trouble with my Ati card
[06:39] <soulrider> there ya go :)
[06:39] <jontec> gracias. I know exactly what you're talking about. I had to do that on SuSE one time. T_T I just don't retain stuff like that.
[06:40] <Hawkwind> jontec: No problem.  Hope it helps
[06:40] <rr72> neither did a dirty install
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> DFM,  i followed that !ati page.. but i think they missed a step or 2.. I had to reboot then reconfigure the X res/display  to get it right.
[06:40] <Hawkwind> jontec: I don't retain stuff like that either, hence why I have forums and other sites to document it all on :)
[06:40] <rr72> why can't i find GLX?
[06:40] <rr72> on o:o
[06:40] <rr72> * 0:0
[06:41] <rr72> all my config files are b0rked
[06:41] <DFM> Will do Doc after reinstall and get wifi working
[06:41] <DFM> thx
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> DFM ive only recently gotten wireless working Under linux.. :P it can be a real pain
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> wireless can be a pain under windows as well.
[06:42] <rr72> wired is easy/fast/stable
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> Its so nice when different companies use different terms for the same  things/wirless settings.
[06:42] <rr72> hoope taht doesnt 0rk up under dapper as well
[06:42] <DFM> I believe I am going to buy a recomended card but don't know what I need.
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> Still havent figured out how some say a 64bit key is 15 characters, and otehrs say its 13 (i think)
[06:43] <rr72> how do i get my xorg config files working again?
[06:43] <DFM> I bought an old Thinkpad for $100 and want to try and make everything work w/o spending any money (if possible)
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> rr72,  see what the x logs are complaining about?
[06:43] <rr72> no
[06:44] <rr72> too lazy
[06:44] <rr72> too long of logs
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> rr72,  wow.. just give up then. :P or delete the logs.. run startx and look at the end..
[06:44] <rr72> startx?
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> that way ya just got the 1 log session
[06:44] <rr72> i never use taht
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> its a lot easier to test out x issues with gdm/kdm not running.
[06:45] <Hawkwind> If you're too lazy to look at logs then it's doubtful anyone is going to give their time to help you fix your problems
[06:45] <rr72> i knew i ignored u for a reason ;)
[06:46] <rr72> i think a --purge wont hurt
[06:46] <Hawkwind> rr72: I'm not trying to be mean.  Just stating the facts.  You have to help us and yourself before we can you.
[06:46] <rr72> i have helped people
[06:46] <Hawkwind> dpkg-deb: building package `kernel-image-2.6.17.7' in `../kernel-image-2.6.17.7_686_i386.deb'.  Ahhh, finally :)
[06:48] <rr72> i compiled by hand
[06:48] <rr72> i never can get repos working for nvidia
[06:48] <rr72> just crap
[06:48] <rr72> more problems trying to install from repos
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> then again i found a url that walked ya through the compiling the stuff.. and it had the info in it. :P
[06:49] <rr72> didnt walk me through shit
[06:49] <rr72> did it all myself
[06:49] <rr72> !nvidia > rr72
[06:49] <rr72> see what his says
[06:50] <AegeanLinux> !nvidia
[06:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> i googled and found -->  http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper     for details on using the latest official  packages from nvidia.
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> and that site mentioned the exporting of  the  gcc3.4 stuff.
[06:51] <rr72> DAPPER IS EVIL PEOPLE DONT UPGRADE!
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> Actually - i advise doing a clean install. not a upgrade
[06:52] <rr72> i knew you would thats why i didnt answer u
[06:52] <rr72> IDC
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> i think the default needs to be for a /home on its own partition in the installer.
[06:52] <rr72> how the heck do i get nvidia off my system for a clean xorg install with nvidia from the repos?
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> of coruse I also got a file server running breezy. :P
[06:53] <rr72> i knew nvidia was going to have probs
[06:53] <rr72> always happens
[06:53] <rr72> happened in debian
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> have fun... listing to people ranting.. always makes me sleepy.
[06:55] <rr72> damn where did i put that link to nvidia about linux
[06:58] <waggle7622frack> Can someone tell me the best partition setup for a clean kubuntu install with seperate /root /var /home /swap
[06:58] <benli> list
[06:59] <shadeofgrey> okay guys i need help
[06:59] <Hawkwind> waggle7622frack: That's totally up to you.  Noone can tell you what's best for *you*
[06:59] <shadeofgrey> how do i edit my xorg.conf file manually?
[06:59] <waggle7622frack> I tried 3 times and grub dies with file not found
[06:59] <Hawkwind> waggle7622frack: Best way to do it is to experiment.  You always find ways to better partition your own system after doing it a few times
[06:59] <waggle7622frack> All partitions are primary
[06:59] <Hawkwind> shadeofgrey: kdesu kwrite /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:59] <waggle7622frack> should some be secondary
[06:59] <shadeofgrey> to open it weith the kate editor it should be sudo kate /etx/X11/xorg.conf right?
[07:00] <shadeofgrey> what is kdesu
[07:00] <Hawkwind> shadeofgrey: No, use kdesu instead of sudo in this case
[07:00] <Hawkwind> shadeofgrey: It's a variant of sudo
[07:03] <tdmg> hey guys, I've used Kubuntu in the past, but was never really prepared for Linux.  I'm looking to put Kubuntu on my knew notebook, but I want to be an informed Linux user beforehand.  However, I'm finding it very hard to find any Linux guides for users who want to be informed but aren't interested in the very nitty-gritty.  Does anyone have suggestions?
[07:03] <waggle7622frack> It wont boot with 4gb root 2gb var 12gb home 512mb swap all on primary partitions with /root active
[07:03] <tdmg> Most of the guides are very basic and written with my grandparents in mind, and the rest are all written for devs :-/
[07:04] <damian_> tdmg or very outdated
[07:04] <tdmg> yeah
[07:04] <tdmg> that too
[07:04] <damian_> you could try the linux intermediate guide
[07:04] <tdmg> where at?
[07:04] <damian_> it's a little condenscending but not too basic
[07:04] <damian_> lemme find it
[07:05] <tdmg> thanks :D
[07:05] <damian_> http://www.linux.org/lessons/interm/index.html
[07:06] <tdmg> I'll take a look at it
[07:07] <tdmg> I just wanted something that would teach me about filesystems, the kernel, etc without inundating me or leaving me clueless
[07:07] <damian_> that guide is not too technical
[07:08] <XVampireX> tdmg: tldp
[07:08] <tdmg> It seems good, maybe a little outdated, but I'll read it through and then get back to you ;)
[07:08] <XVampireX> I think that isit
[07:08] <dbglt> is there an easy way to remove/uninstall all gnome-desktop related packages?
[07:08] <tdmg> tldp?
[07:08] <jontec> Okay, I tried the login thing, but the root password still hasn't been changed
[07:08] <dbglt> I installed kubuntu-desktop, and now want to get rid of the gnome ones
[07:08] <XVampireX> just a sec
[07:08] <jontec> my login password, though I think has.
[07:08] <damian_> dbglt try adept
[07:08] <jontec> but not to the one that I specified.
[07:08] <damian_> and then find the gnome packages and request remove
[07:09] <dbglt> dpkg doesn't note dependencies and such?
[07:09] <dbglt> or apt
[07:09] <dbglt> ?
[07:09] <damian_> yes it does
[07:09] <XVampireX> http://www.tldp.org/
[07:09] <tdmg> ah
[07:09] <tdmg> cool
[07:09] <tdmg> looks like this has plenty to keep me busy :D
[07:09] <jontec> I have a question, when you run kdesu or sudo su is the prompt asking for your user's password or the root password?
[07:09] <tdmg> thanks Xvamp :)
[07:10] <dbglt> damian_: ah when you say "gnome packages" you mean individual gnome-related packages?
[07:10] <damian_> yes
[07:10] <damian_> you don't have to remove them though
[07:10] <damian_> gnome programs will run in kde
[07:10] <damian_> as long as you have gtk
[07:10] <dbglt> I do know that. Thank you. I'm just not interested in any of them
[07:10] <damian_> adept will take care of everything for you
[07:11] <XVampireX> tdmg, no probs
[07:11] <shadeofgrey> whats -- how do i add a button toi my panel that minimizes all windows that i havbe open?
[07:11] <shadeofgrey> i use that a lot and its driving me nuts that i cant find it anywhere
[07:11] <rr72> i think the location for my video card is wrong, it says pci but its agp
[07:12] <shadeofgrey> is there a kubuntu development channel here?
[07:15] <rr72> WTF is wrong with my xserver and nvidia?
[07:15] <XVampireX> rr72: you answered yourself :P
[07:15] <rr72> how?
[07:15] <insanekane> shadeofgrey: right click -> Add applet to panel -> look for Show Desktop
[07:16] <XVampireX> There is something wrong with your xserver and nvidia, that is what.
[07:16] <rr72> ur making my head hurt more
[07:17] <ltmon> Looking for help... I'm having wireless issues: both with networkmanager and standard networking (i.e. iwconfig) I can't get an IP address.  I can connect see the wireless AP and connect no problem, but DHCPDISCOVER just times out.  The same laptop works fine wired, and this laptop I'm using right now works fine on wireless with the same network settings.  This behaviour seemed to start after I resumed from suspend 2 ram last.  Anyone
[07:17] <XVampireX> rr72: you said something about XGL on #kde
[07:17] <XVampireX> rr72: must have not installed it right
[07:17] <rr72> no its not glx anymore
[07:17] <XVampireX> so what is it?
[07:17] <XVampireX> ah
[07:17] <rr72> yeah it is glx
[07:17] <rr72> idk
[07:18] <XVampireX> hmm, reinstall drivers?
[07:18] <rr72> ive installed my nvidia drivers over 40 times
[07:18] <XVampireX> always safe to have a backup for xorg.conf
[07:18] <rr72> (EE) Failed to load module "glx" (a required submodule could not be loaded, 0)
[07:18] <rr72> (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)
[07:19] <XVampireX> Do you have a backup of xorg.conf?
[07:19] <rr72> heck no
[07:19] <rr72> i do for my other mocahines
[07:19] <insanekane> shadeofgrey: ?
[07:20] <rr72> how do i uninstall NVIDIA driver i did by hand?
[07:20] <soulrider> how can i set permissions in /etc/fstab to allow anyone to write on my ntfs partitions? because i think only roots can do that
[07:22] <rr72> !nvidia > rr72
[07:22] <rr72> lets do it the bad way
[07:23] <XVampireX> haha
[07:23] <XVampireX> where do I get 3.5.4?
[07:25] <rr72> crap didnt want to install headers
[07:25] <rr72> but oh well
[07:25] <OOD> XVampireX: http://www.kubuntu.org/
[07:25] <rr72> tahts i i dl the nvidia installer from nvidia
[07:26] <jontec> I need to know how to change the root password.
[07:26] <soulrider> jontec: what for :/
[07:26] <jontec> I tried booting single, but the root password still is not changed when I attempt to use sudo su inside Kubuntu.
[07:27] <soulrider> isnt sudo enough ?
[07:27] <soulrider> oh
[07:27] <jontec> I cannot access sudo at all.
[07:27] <OOD> jontec: just sudi
[07:27] <OOD> sudo, dont use su
[07:28] <jontec> okay, the problem still remains that I can't run any root things, such as changing things in system setting.
[07:28] <jontec> kdesu is the same as sudo su, correct?
[07:28] <XVampireX> sudi?
[07:28] <XVampireX> Huh
[07:28] <OOD> what's the problem exactly?
[07:28] <rr72> new !nvidia wouldnt help me at all
[07:28] <rr72> didnt do shit
[07:28] <OOD> rr72: you trying to install nvidia driver?
[07:28] <XVampireX> jontec: check if you're running any application with sudo already, or kdesu
[07:28] <rr72> back to exactly where i am, not working
[07:28] <rr72> ood no
[07:28] <jontec> I'm not
[07:29] <soulrider> im gpnna reboot, BRB
[07:29] <XVampireX> jontec, weird
[07:29] <rr72> i hate drivers in kubuntu
[07:29] <rr72> *dapper
[07:29] <rr72> i hate dapper*
[07:29] <jontec> I've rebooted several times. and to no avail.
[07:29] <rr72> breezy worked
[07:29] <OOD> rr72: what are you trying to do?
[07:29] <rr72> get xorg to work again
[07:30] <OOD> why isn't it working?
[07:30] <OOD> have you tried reconfiguring xorg.conf?
[07:30] <rr72> yeah
[07:30] <jontec> In grub I ran the restore and the command "passwd" to change password... and it did not work when went to run it from Kubuntu Terminal
[07:30] <rr72> ive scrathied it to the default
[07:30] <jontec> and I think at this point the system has locked me out entirely.
[07:30] <rr72> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[07:31] <rr72> glx doesnt work
[07:31] <rr72> glxgears*
[07:31] <rr72> no nvidia screen on boot up
[07:31] <rr72> i hate dapepr
[07:31] <rr72> and nvidia
[07:31] <rr72> and XORG@
[07:31] <damian_> and linux
[07:31] <OOD> so you can log in?
[07:31] <OOD> though you said you can't
[07:32] <rr72> ssh  always works
[07:32] <rr72> why cause its text
[07:34] <Frederick> folks wich is the commandto set the system sound volume?
[07:34] <rr72> and why is my video card being detected as pci? its agp
[07:35] <jontec> ood:I can login to my account, but not with any root access.
[07:35] <XVampireX> Frederick: alsamixer
[07:35] <rr72> jontec~ root is disabled
[07:35] <XVampireX> Frederick: but why do you need a command?
[07:36] <jontec> rr72: but sudo and kdesu should still work.
[07:36] <XVampireX> Frederick: There's kmix
[07:36] <rr72> does it say ur not part of the sudo list?
[07:36] <Frederick> thnaks
[07:36] <rr72> are u in admin group?
[07:36] <jontec> no it just gives me the invalid password.
[07:37] <XVampireX> jontec: use your user password
[07:37] <rr72> well put in the right password
[07:37] <jontec> yes, I'm the original account.
[07:37] <silk_> does anyone know how to make firefox work in kubuntu.
[07:37] <jontec> I have been.
[07:37] <silk_> there's some command line you have to edit?
[07:37] <OOD> !firefox
[07:37] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[07:37] <jontec> but recently that stopped working.
[07:37] <OOD> silk_: ^^
[07:37] <XVampireX> silk_: firefox works just fine,  I'd suggest you use Swiftfox
[07:38] <jontec> recently being today, and I say recently because I had not made any changes to the system that would constitue a root pasword change.
[07:38] <rr72> i suggeest lynx
[07:38] <XVampireX> !swiftfox
[07:38] <ubotu> I know nothing about swiftfox - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:38] <XVampireX> hehe, it doesn't know about swiftfox, someone should add it
[07:38] <silk_> Thought I remeber'd having to edit some command lines to get it working.
[07:38] <silk_> No one had this problem/
[07:38] <XVampireX> I.E: Optimized firefox for linux machines or amd machines
[07:38] <XVampireX> silk_: nope
[07:38] <silk_> No worries
[07:38] <XVampireX> nothing in the command line to get it working because it works
[07:39] <silk_> Connections time out for me.
[07:39] <XVampireX> dns
[07:39] <XVampireX> Must be some problems with the DNS
[07:39] <XVampireX> can you connect with other browsers?
[07:39] <rr72> don't ask
[07:39] <rr72> i did it
[07:39] <rr72> don't know how
[07:40] <XVampireX> rr72: how
[07:40] <silk_> Yah
[07:40] <XVampireX> silk_: then I don't know
[07:40] <jontec> I just looked up my account to double-check on the group thing... my primary group is jontec and my secondary groups is only "www-data, wwwadmin"
[07:40] <rr72> i cat /dev/urandom > /dev/hda0
[07:40] <jontec> I think there should be more if my memory serves me.
[07:40] <rr72> u need admin
[07:40] <rr72> lpadmin
[07:40] <rr72> lots more
[07:40] <silk_> No wories I try the forums then.
[07:40] <XVampireX> rr72: crazy
[07:41] <jontec> is there any reason why the would be missing, or any way that they could have been deleted/removed?
[07:42] <jontec> also, how do I add them from terminal? that's the only way that I'm going to be able to get root access
[07:42] <XVampireX> :-/
[07:42] <XVampireX> try load su
[07:42] <rr72> u need to boot in rescue mode
[07:42] <XVampireX> yup
[07:42] <jontec> yeah,
[07:42] <XVampireX> that too
[07:42] <rr72> i just had to do taht
[07:42] <rr72> last week
[07:42] <jontec> and load su is the only command?
[07:43] <rr72> trying to get cups working
[07:43] <rr72> no
[07:43] <rr72> just boot in rescure
[07:43] <XVampireX> jontec: no, su is the command
[07:43] <rr72> root is standard
[07:43] <XVampireX> su = root
[07:43] <jontec> okay, so after su?
[07:43] <rr72> root is user su is not user
[07:43] <XVampireX> sudo = just gives you a shell to su with your own user
[07:43] <jontec> okay.
[07:44] <XVampireX> rr72: kinda
[07:44] <rr72> kinda?
[07:44] <XVampireX> :P
[07:44] <XVampireX> Nevermind
[07:44] <rr72> screw im going to bash code
[07:44] <jontec> so when I reboot in restore mode which gives me terminal @ root all that I have to enter is su?
[07:44] <rr72> be a lot easier
[07:44] <rr72> then put in autostart
[07:44] <XVampireX> jontec: no
[07:45] <XVampireX> jontec: restore mode = automatic su
[07:45] <jontec> okay, yes, I understand that.
[07:45] <XVampireX> :)
[07:45] <jontec> that's why it's not making sense to me to put in su...
[07:45] <rr72> just put in path
[07:45] <rr72> i don't want in autostart
[07:45] <jontec> path of what?
[07:46] <rr72> ~/bin
[07:46] <rr72> what i don't have a ~/bin!!
[07:46] <rr72> why don't i have a ~bin?
[07:47] <damian_> just make one rr72
[07:47] <damian_> mkdir ~/bin
[07:47] <damian_> there
[07:47] <rr72> will it be in my path tho?
[07:47] <damian_> now you have a bin
[07:47] <damian_> add it
[07:47] <damian_> add this in your ~/.bashrc file
[07:47] <damian_> :
[07:47] <rr72> i don't want to frikin add it
[07:47] <rr72> i know
[07:47] <rr72> yaya
[07:48] <damian_> PATH="$PATH:~/bin"
[07:48] <rr72> i know what to add
[07:48] <rr72> ill just add it
[07:48] <damian_> then what's your problem
[07:48] <rr72> i kow
[07:48] <rr72> don't want to
[07:48] <damian_> why not
[07:48] <rr72> leave me ALONE!
[07:48] <rr72> i hate this channel
[07:48] <rr72> people bug me
[07:49] <damian_> then stop asking questions
[07:50] <soulrider> i gto a couple of NTFS partititions
[07:50] <soulrider> i can write to them
[07:50] <andresmujica> sudo bash
[07:50] <soulrider> but how can i get the fmas so anyone can read and write adne xecute and do whatever htey want
[07:50] <jontec> okay, I'm just going to google and look at the wiki.
[07:50] <jontec> I'm tired and I need to get this resolved.
[07:52] <jontec> what a surprise, the wiki is down.
[07:52] <XVampireX> haha
[07:52] <jontec> that has to be the most unreliable resource.
[07:53] <jontec> I wrote an article and the system bombed in the middle of it.
[07:53] <jontec> I had to wait until the next morning to upload it.
[07:53] <Dark_Oppressor> what can i use to extract a rar?
[07:53] <Hawkwind> Dark_Oppressor: unrar
[07:54] <XVampireX> jontec: It happens, people starting to move to ubuntu/kubuntu nowadays... they'll have to invest some more money in servers or get people to run mirrors
[07:54] <damian_> what is aRts?
[07:54] <Hawkwind> damian_: Sound server
[07:54] <XVampireX> sound server
[07:55] <Dark_Oppressor> Hawkwind, thanks
[07:56] <shadeofgrey> hey is anybody here REALLY experienced with kmail i need some information
[07:56] <soulrider> i didnt know lol
[07:57] <damian_> XVampireX what's so silly about that question
[07:57] <soulrider> err, ,y nar just dissappeared
[07:57] <XVampireX> Was talking about "what can I use to extract a rar?"
[07:57] <soulrider> how do i get it back again?
[07:57] <ltmon_> shadeofgrey: I think I am... ask your question and we'll find out
[07:57] <shadeofgrey> i need to know if its possible to have multiple email accounts in kmail
[07:57] <shadeofgrey> like a lot?
[07:58] <XVampireX> arts is a little bit more complicated.... but rar...
[07:58] <soulrider> my taskbar just dissappeared
[07:58] <soulrider> how can i revoccer it?
[07:58] <ltmon_> shadeofgrey: I currently run two accounts, one POP3 and one IMAP.  I don't see why you couldn't extend this, but it might be difficult to manage them all.
[07:58] <shadeofgrey> i pl;an on using thunderbird for my main email client with my gmail account and then i want to configure kmail to handle all 15 of the email addresses that are linked to all 15 of my bloghs
[07:58] <ltmon_> shadeofgrey: Possibly it's worth getting them fowarded to the same account?
[07:59] <shadeofgrey> okay ltmon_ -- can wee taklk in private for a few minutes so that i can get iknformation from you on how to sd\etup each account
[07:59] <shadeofgrey> no thats totallynot possible
[07:59] <shadeofgrey> they all have to be seperate
[07:59] <Dark_Oppressor> unrar requires dependencies that arent in the ubuntu repos -_-
[07:59] <shadeofgrey> but in truth i dont NEED all 15 at the moment
[07:59] <shadeofgrey> but i definately need like at least 4 or 5
[08:00] <shadeofgrey> see the thingthat gets me is i dont understand what the didfference is between accounts and identities
[08:00] <shadeofgrey> like, if i setup each account will i get seperate inboxes and sent boxes for each account?
[08:01] <ltmon_> an identity is who you appear as when you send an email: your name, reply to address, signature, encryption.  An account is where you get mail from and and what server you use to send the mail.
[08:01] <XVampireX> shadeofgrey: just set it all up again in thunderbird
[08:01] <XVampireX> or  I'm confused, but nevermind
[08:01] <ltmon_> shadeofgrey: you should be able to set them all up to have the same inbox if you are using POP3, if they are imap they probably need their own folder structure.
[08:02] <shadeofgrey> i want them all im diff inboxes
[08:03] <shadeofgrey> but its okay i found really stellar easy instructions via goiogle
[08:03] <ltmon_> shadeofgrey: there is a dropdown in the "Create Account" dialog which says "Destination Folder".  Create the folder and set the destination folder for an account to that folder when you create it.
[08:05] <jontec> will someone go to their users panel and read me off/ post to paste bin all of the groups that an admin enabled user needs to have? I cannot find it anywhere else, but I do have the command.
[08:08] <Gumby> lo all.  I am trying to compile ndiswrapper on amd64 (kubuntu) and its telling me that I dont have a valid /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build directory.  Ive installed matching kernel headers for my kernel which I think is all I did in regular ubuntu.  Anyone have any idea what I might have done wrong?
[08:13] <jontec> my request was a two second thing, could someone please do it for me?
[08:15] <Gumby> lpadmin and admin
[08:15] <Gumby> thats it
[08:15] <jontec> gracias.
[08:35] <jontec> okay, so does anyone have any idea why Kmix will not work (says my sound card can not be detected) and why I cannot access my usb disk?
[08:35] <jontec> both of which have worked before.
[08:36] <pradeepto> !java
[08:36] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[08:36] <abattoir_> Gumby: you're sure about the kernel version?
[08:39] <Gumby> abattoir: figured it out.  thanks :)
[08:39] <jontec> I don't understand why I've had these odd outbreak of problems when I've done nothing that was would cause them.
[08:39] <abattoir> Gumby: oh, ok... what was it?
[08:40] <abattoir> jontec: did you upgrade to 3.5.4 ?
[08:40] <Gumby> wrong header version :)
[08:40] <abattoir> Gumby: :P
[08:40] <Gumby> now I need to get ndiswrapper working in amd64
[08:41] <abattoir> jontec: also check whether 'alsamixer'(from a terminal) recognizes your card..
[08:42] <Gumby> ndiswrapper that ships with the ubuntu kernels for some reason wont load my card properly
[08:42] <jontec> nope, I haven't perofrmed any updates.
[08:42] <Gumby> so unfortunately I have to remove the module and compile my own.  of course, there are aparantly issues with amd64 and ndiswrapper
[08:43] <abattoir> Gumby: you're using 64-bit windows drivers right?
[08:43] <crimsun> jontec: if you unplugged your usb sound device without unloading the alsa driver first, it will hog the usb bus and cause the symptoms you described.
[08:43] <jontec> abattoir:alsa detects it correctly, Kmix does now.
[08:45] <abattoir> jontec: listen to what crimsun says, he is the expert :)
[08:45] <jontec> crimsun:my usb device doesn't have sound capabilities... it's just a flash disk.
[08:45] <jontec> lol, okay
[08:45] <jontec> crimsun:how do I fix it?
[08:45] <abattoir> jontec: you have a PCI (or integrated) soundcard?
[08:45] <jontec> abattoir:yes
[08:45] <crimsun> jontec: ah, I thought you said you have a usb sound device. Which sound device is it?
[08:45] <jontec> abattoir: it's built into the computer.
[08:45] <jontec> oh, sorry, I mean
[08:45] <jontec> crimsun: it's built in no speakers even play it, all of the sound comes from inside the box
[08:46] <crimsun> jontec: and suddenly it's inaudible?
[08:46] <jontec> yes, windows plays it fine, it's linux I have the trouble with
[08:46] <crimsun> jontec: has it ever been audible in Kubuntu?
[08:46] <jontec> and recently, I don't know if this is related, I could not login to kdesu
[08:46] <jontec> yes
[08:46] <crimsun> jontec: are you using the latest updates?
[08:46] <jontec> I was using amaroK quite often...
[08:47] <jontec> I don't think so
[08:47] <jontec> I haven't done any updates
[08:47] <crimsun> please ensure that you're up-to-date.
[08:47] <jontec> that could take a while... I'm on dial-up O_o
[08:47] <jontec> I think it said that a full upgrade would be anywhere from 50MB to 95MB I can't remember exactly
[08:48] <crimsun> is your sound card recognised?  ``asoundconf list''
[08:48] <jontec> it was too big for me to think about.
[08:56] <jontec> I think so
[08:56] <jontec> alsa said that it did as well.
[08:56] <jontec> I got kdesu to work on this session, should I try a reboot?
[08:56] <crimsun> I need the output from that command.
[08:56] <jontec> one sec
[08:56] <jontec> I82801BAICH2
[08:56] <crimsun> ok, and paste the output from ``amixer'' onto http://pastebin.ca
[08:56] <crimsun> don't flood here, plesae
[08:56] <jontec> okay
[08:56] <Gumby> abattoir: no, I wasnt.  But I get the same issues regardless of being in amd64 of i386 ubuntu
[08:56] <htraki> Does anybody know where can I get xine 1,1,2 in deb ?
[08:56] <abattoir> Gumby: oh, ok, and compiling ndiswrapper from source solves the issue?
[08:56] <jontec> http://pastebin.ca/118129
[08:56] <abattoir> htraki: for dapper?
[08:56] <abattoir> !info libxine1c2
[08:56] <ubotu> libxine1c2: the xine video/media player library, transitional package. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 114 kB, installed size 260 kB
[08:56] <abattoir> !info libxine1 edgy
[08:56] <ubotu> libxine1: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.1.2-2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 2819 kB, installed size 6484 kB
[08:56] <htraki> thx guys,but I would like to it on dapper
[08:56] <htraki> abattoir: yes, dapper
[08:56] <abattoir> htraki: then i guess there is no 'official' deb...
[08:56] <crimsun> jontec: amixer set 'Low Power Mixer' on
[08:57] <jontec> with single quotes?
[08:57] <htraki> thx,abattoir
[08:57] <abattoir> htraki: np :)
[08:58] <crimsun> jontec: verbatim
[08:58] <jontec> okay, done
[08:58] <crimsun> jontec: aplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE*up.wav
[08:59] <jontec> yup, it works
[08:59] <crimsun> sorry, I don't know what that means.
[08:59] <jontec> yes, it works, it plays the sound
[08:59] <crimsun> do you mean "it works - I can hear it", or do you mean "it works but I can't hear anything"?
[09:00] <jontec> I can hear it.
[09:00] <crimsun> excellent.
[09:00] <crimsun> sound problem resolved then?
[09:00] <jontec> I think so, I'm opening amaroK now to test it. Is a reboot necessary? Kmix still has the x
[09:01] <crimsun> no need to reboot.
[09:02] <jontec> xine was unable to initialize any audio-drivers.
[09:02] <crimsun> jontec: did you close and restart amarok?
[09:03] <jontec> yes, and it said that no engine was loaded.
[09:03] <jontec> I enabled xine and xine gave me the error
[09:03] <crimsun> what type of media file were you trying to play?
[09:04] <crimsun> here, just log out of KDE and back in
[09:04] <jontec> mp3, the normal kind of file, they've always played before
[09:04] <jontec> k, one sec
[09:06] <jontec> okay, kmix still has the error.
[09:07] <crimsun> in KDE System Settings, did you change the default sound device or something?
[09:08] <jontec> it's still on autodetect
[09:08] <crimsun> did you create an /etc/asound.conf or ~/.asoundrc* at any point in the past?
[09:08] <jontec> nope
[09:09] <jontec> I had a problem with before with kdesu and my su access, though
[09:09] <crimsun> I'm not on KDE, so I can't pull up kmix. What's the error?
[09:09] <jontec> and my groups did not seem to check out, so I don't really know what's going on with my computer
[09:10] <jontec> it says that a mixer cannot be found
[09:10] <jontec> and when you open the mixer window, there's no device on the dropdown menu
[09:10] <crimsun> what sound device is kmix configured to use?
[09:10] <crimsun> ok. Now in KDE System Settings, what are the choices for sound device other than autodetect?
[09:11] <jontec> open sound system
[09:11] <crimsun> no alsa at all?
[09:11] <jontec> advanced linux sound architecture
[09:12] <crimsun> ok, good
[09:12] <jontec> I'm slow at retriving and typing
[09:12] <jontec> no audio input/output
[09:12] <jontec> enlightened sound daemon
[09:13] <jontec> network audio system
[09:13] <jontec> and finally threaded open sound system
[09:13] <crimsun> ok, so you want to choose advanced linux sound architecture (a.k.a. alsa)
[09:13] <crimsun> are there further options?
[09:14] <flaccid> !mysql
[09:14] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:14] <jontec> only the ones I listed in the drop down box, and there's several more after thatr
[09:14] <crimsun> right, and what are the ones after?
[09:15] <jontec> actually there's not that many I kind of exaggerated
[09:15] <jontec> full duplex checkbox
[09:15] <crimsun> that should be checked
[09:15] <jontec> use custom sampling rate (number box (greyed out), quality drop down box)
[09:15] <jontec> okay
[09:15] <crimsun> can you choose the specific alsa device, like hw:0,0 or default or whatever?
[09:16] <jontec> well it has overiide device location
[09:16] <jontec> and use other custom options
[09:16] <crimsun> ok, just save and exit that for now. Does kmix show anything different?
[09:17] <jontec> the only thing next is the MIDI device
[09:17] <jontec> 'restarted kmix and I have the same error as before
[09:17] <jontec> still with the x
[09:18] <crimsun> ok, then you have deeper configuration issue that's KDE-specific
[09:18] <jontec> okay, could you take a look at something real quick...
[09:19] <jontec> it's about to go into the pastebin
[09:20] <damian_> !kmix
[09:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about kmix - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:21] <jontec> http://pastebin.ca/118167
[09:21] <Dark_Oppressor> are there any drivers out for tthe logitech g15 keyboard?
[09:21] <jontec> it's like two lines and it's about the groups
[09:21] <jontec> I think that it might be related to my usb disk, possibly maybe even with my sound?
[09:22] <crimsun> heh, yes.
[09:22] <jontec> I had to manually add the lpadmin and admin groups to be able to use kdesu
[09:22] <crimsun> is your user the first to be created?
[09:22] <jontec> yes
[09:22] <crimsun> then your groups were munged by something
[09:23] <jontec> but I took a look at the groups and from just glancing at it when I was setting up groups a while back I knew that I wasn't supposed to have just two groups
[09:23] <jontec> something?
[09:23] <crimsun> sudo adduser jontec adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip src video plugdev scanner
[09:24] <crimsun> hmm
[09:24] <jontec> will that kill my current account and all it's data?
[09:24] <crimsun> you'll probably need to loop that
[09:24] <crimsun> no.
[09:24] <jontec> okay good.
[09:24] <crimsun> for i in adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip src video plugdev scanner; do sudo adduser jontec $i; done
[09:24] <jontec> coz I'm still logged into the terminal as root
[09:24] <jontec> k
[09:24] <crimsun> use the for() command
[09:25] <jontec> just the second command?
[09:25] <jontec> okay, never mind I see the part at the end of the loop
[09:26] <jontec> oh, okay... I see what just happened. I though adduser added the user to the system, but it adds the user to each group... ahaha
[09:26] <jontec> I was wondering why it needed to be looped
[09:27] <crimsun> now you need to log out and back in
[09:27] <jontec> okay, can do
[09:27] <crimsun> things should work properly afterward
[09:29] <abattoir> nixternal: nice lecture, yesterday :)
[09:29] <jontec> okay, sound works at least, I heard the startup noise
[09:30] <jontec> and there's no x
[09:30] <crimsun> right, that was all a permissions issue
[09:30] <jontec> okay, good ^_^ that definitely takes a load off
[09:30] <crimsun> your external usb hd should mount, too.
[09:31] <jontec> it did, and kdesu works as well.
[09:31] <jontec> it looks like it's all back to normal. ^_^ wow. But more importantly I still have no idea how all of that happened.
[09:32] <XVampireX> Is it just me or KDE 3.5.4 faster than 3.5.2?
[09:33] <crimsun> it seemed a bit snappier last I used it.
[09:33] <XVampireX> yay
[09:34] <jontec> ...I need to upgrade KDE. I need to upgrade a lot though.
[09:34] <jontec> Thanks, crimsun I can now go to bed in peace.
[09:34] <jontec> !apache
[09:34] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:34] <XVampireX> So why's KDE faster than gnome?
[09:35] <XVampireX> very noticeable nowadays
[09:35] <jontec> I hate gnome, or at least breezy ubuntu.
[09:35] <XVampireX> heh
[09:35] <jontec> only form of gnome I ever used.
[09:38] <fritsch> I currently use the environment variables in /etc/environment http_proxy, https_proxy, ftp .... but I` d like to use the kde proxy settings, but also use wget etc. without specifing a proxy, is that possible? (changing the systemwide stuff on every shell when changing places is no very cool)
[09:39] <rikioh> whats a command to force close a program
[09:39] <rikioh> i need to force close firefox
[09:39] <fritsch> rikioh: killall firefox
[09:39] <fritsch> rikioh: or kill -9 $processid
[09:39] <abattoir> rikioh: or killall firefox-bin ... if that doesnt work
[09:40] <rikioh> firefox-bin worked
[09:40] <abattoir> rikioh: or you could run 'xkill' and click on the window, to close it
[09:40] <jontec> okay, I have another question. Okay, I heard earlier that you had to install apache for php support, but it looks like the package is already installed?
[09:41] <fritsch> rikioh: or clicking wildly on the "close" x helps, too
[09:41] <fritsch> jontec: php support?
[09:41] <fritsch> jontec: you want programm in php
[09:41] <fritsch> jontec: so you need to have a webserver which "interprets" it for you
[09:42] <jontec> this is what apache does, I thought?
[09:43] <jontec> I just read the apache2-common and it said that I needed 'worker' which I requested for install
[09:43] <fritsch> jontec: yes
[09:43] <jontec> I want to run it locally
[09:43] <jontec> php that is
[09:44] <fritsch> jontec: yes, mmmh just apt-get install apache2 php (i think these meta packages should work)
[09:44] <fritsch> jontec: sorry
[09:45] <jontec> ? about what?
[09:45] <fritsch> jontec: apt-get install apache2 php5
[09:46] <fritsch> jontec: this installs all you need, you can then place files into your $HOME/public_html/
[09:46] <fritsch> and connect with http://localhost/~youruser
[09:46] <jontec> do you mean libapache-mod-php5?
[09:46] <fritsch> just php5, this is a metapackage
[09:46] <jontec> b/c 4 is already installed.
[09:46] <jontec> oh, gotcha
[09:46] <fritsch> 5 grades it up
[09:47] <jontec> okay, thanks
[09:47] <jontec> I have to download the stuff now...
[09:49] <fritsch> jontec: good luck
[09:49] <jontec> should the folder exist now?
[09:49] <jontec> or will it be installed after installation, I mean does 4 have the same stuff?
[09:50] <jontec> I'm running download while I'm sleeping and wanted to see what I could do right now before I sleep
[09:50] <fritsch> jontec: no this folder does not exist
[09:50] <fritsch> jontec: just create it mkdir -p ~/public_html
[09:51] <fritsch> jontec: as "your user"
[09:51] <jontec> in the home directory?
[09:51] <jontec> okay
[09:51] <fritsch> jontec: this commands make it automatically, for the "current user" which runs this command
[09:53] <fritsch> jontec: just a min (too much beer yesterdays)
[09:53] <jontec> lol
[09:55] <jontec> okay, sweet it works, thanks! ^_^
[10:06] <francolq> Hello. This is an AMD64 Kubuntu Breezy. xine-check says my X server doesn't support YV12 overlays and doesn't have any XVideo support. I couldn't find out how to install these things. Can someone help me?
[10:07] <crimsun> which video driver are you using?
[10:07] <francolq> let me see...
[10:08] <francolq> vesa
[10:08] <crimsun> and which graphics card do you have?
[10:10] <_rince_> mrgn
[10:13] <francolq> Here it is.. On Board Graphic Processor S3 Graphics UniChrome Pro
[10:13] <crimsun> I don't think there is a way currently for that chipset.
[10:13] <francolq> I remember that i tried to install the correct drivers long ago...
[10:14] <TheGateKeeper> !seveas > thegatekeeper
[10:14] <francolq> :( well thank you anyway
[10:16] <crimsun> hmm, the version in Edgy is even older than the latest release (0.2.5)
[10:29] <noiesmo> have an old laptop and i think the on board sounds stuffed .  its sis based and there are errors/warnings in dmesg about ac 97 sound and trident4dwave audio how can i test it or is this not possible
[10:30] <zuiden> what is the aptitude command to update the entire system??
[10:30] <leeghoofd> zuiden: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade
[10:31] <zuiden> thank you
[10:31] <MilhousePunkRock> Good morning everyone!
[10:31] <m`kay> how can i resize my monitor resolution???
[10:31] <narvik86> hello
[10:31] <fritsch> m`kay: resize or change?
[10:32] <TheGateKeeper> morning MilhousePunkRock
[10:32] <steveire> any idea what language adept is written in?
[10:32] <fritsch> m`kay: start krandrtray
[10:32] <m`kay> change
[10:32] <narvik86> m`kay ctrl+ alt+ +
[10:32] <narvik86> m`kay ctrl+ alt+ -
[10:33] <fritsch> narvik86: :-) krandrtray i would prefer, acually because you know, where you are switching to
[10:33] <Jucato> steveire: AFAIK, C++
[10:33] <narvik86> fritsch ok, i'm telling what i know  :-)
[10:33] <damian_> !edgy
[10:33] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[10:33] <steveire> I should see if I can find source code for it.
[10:34] <fritsch> steveire: apt-get source adept
[10:34] <MilhousePunkRock> !schedule
[10:34] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[10:34] <damian_> !schedule
[10:34] <steveire> fritsch: Thanks, and where will it go.
[10:34] <steveire> ?
[10:34] <fritsch> steveire: it downloads in you current directory
[10:34] <narvik86> to tray, near the clock
[10:35] <leveldoc> I have a fresh install of kubuntu dapper here, should I upgrade KDE? I've read somewhere that some people had problems with it...?
[10:35] <steveire> will it make a directory
[10:35] <steveire> ~/adept-source or something?
[10:35] <fritsch> steveire: mkdir -p build
[10:35] <fritsch> steveire: cd build
[10:35] <fritsch> apt-get source adept
[10:35] <XVampireX> Hi
[10:35] <XVampireX> I got a question
[10:35] <XVampireX> regarding kopete in 3.5.4 in kubuntu
[10:35] <fritsch> steveire: so verything in place *g*
[10:35] <narvik86> ok
[10:35] <steveire> that'll do. thanks
[10:35] <XVampireX> Was it compiled against jingle and does it have VoIP jingle support?
[10:36] <XVampireX> because so far I see only webcam
[10:36] <bubbles> hi
[10:36] <bubbles> how can i enable/install mod_alias and mod_env on apache2?
[10:36] <steveire> what does that p switch do?
[10:36] <fritsch> bubbles: a2mod $name enable
[10:36] <steveire> sorry, I see it
[10:37] <fritsch> bubbles: sorry a2enmod $NAME
[10:37] <fritsch> bubbles: a2enmod mod_alias  && a2enmod mod_env
[10:37] <bubbles> root@Timmy:/etc/apache2/mods-available# a2enmod mod_alias
[10:37] <bubbles> This module does not exist!
[10:37] <fritsch> bubbles: good, just start a2enmod
[10:38] <bubbles> the same for mod_env :\
[10:38] <fritsch> bubbles: there it lists all
[10:38] <fritsch> bubbles: you have
[10:38] <bubbles> ?
[10:38] <fritsch> bubbles: just do a2enmod
[10:38] <fritsch> bubbles: without argument, then you can read what modules are installed
[10:38] <bubbles> root@Timmy:/etc/apache2/mods-available# a2enmod
[10:38] <bubbles> Which module would you like to enable?
[10:38] <bubbles> Your choices are: actions asis auth_anon auth_dbm auth_digest auth_ldap cache cern_meta cgi cgid dav dav_fs dav_svn deflate disk_cache expires ext_filter file_cache headers imap include info ldap mem_cache mime_magic perl php5 proxy proxy_connect proxy_ftp proxy_http rewrite speling ssl suexec unique_id userdir usertrack vhost_alias
[10:38] <narvik86> where can i find mplayer fonts?
[10:39] <fritsch> bubbles: don` t paste
[10:39] <bubbles> sry
[10:39] <MilhousePunkRock> bubbles --> Pastebin
[10:39] <steveire> well it's c++ alright...
[10:39] <fritsch> bubbles: yes, if you want others you probably have to compile
[10:39] <bubbles> how?
[10:40] <bubbles> where do i get the sources?
[10:40] <fritsch> bubbles: sorry don` t know
[10:40] <bubbles> k
[10:40] <fritsch> what modules are these? not very common, or?
[10:40] <bubbles> don't know
[10:41] <fritsch> bubbles: try apt-cache search apache env mod
[10:41] <fritsch> bubbles: which site suggests you to load them?
[10:41] <Jucato> steveire: good luck! I hope you can contribute a lot to improve Adept
[10:41] <bubbles> http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracCgi
[10:42] <steveire> who knows. Can't give it a shot now though. There's exams afoot soon.
[10:42] <abattoir> steveire: you are going to work on adept?
[10:42] <Jucato> ehehe!
[10:42] <fritsch> bubbles: is this for apache2?
[10:42] <bubbles> yes
[10:43] <steveire> I want to hack it a bit. Nothing fancy
[10:45] <narvik86> where can i find
[10:45] <narvik86> mplayer fonts
[10:46] <Lynoure> narvik86: googling didn't help?
[10:47] <fritsch> bubbles: do apache2 -l please
[10:47] <narvik86> i have installed mplayer-fonts but they arent in ~/.mplayer
[10:48] <the-erm> Anyone know off the top of their head if there are any repertories with apache2 mod_rewite?
[10:49] <Lynoure> narvik86: if you installed them as a package, they are likely to be in some mplayer related systemwide directory. I don't use mplayer so no idea where, but either locate or find could find them for you.
[10:49] <fritsch> bubbles: still there?
[10:50] <fritsch> bubbles: you don`t have to enable it, it is compiled in!
[10:50] <the-erm> never mind ... it's installd.
[10:50] <narvik86> Lynoure ok, i found it :) thanks, in synaptic i choose properities and there is a path
[10:50] <fritsch> bubbles: the alias ist installed by default, too
[10:51] <steveire> is there a cls equivalent to clear the konsole?
[10:51] <Lynoure> narvik86: :)
[10:51] <crimsun> steveire: clear
[10:51] <m`kay> mmmh. i think i need more software, what are good mirrors for dapper if i want some stuff like libdvdcss2
[10:51] <steveire> chairs
[10:52] <fritsch> !restrictedFormats > m`kay
[10:52] <serveri> how to upgrade old version of ubntu to newer?
[10:53] <Lynoure> serveri: which version to which?  In general, change repos to that of the newer one, then do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, but there are stepbystep instructions too floating aorund
[10:53] <Lynoure> s/aorund/around
[10:53] <m`kay> fritsch: i know...
[10:54] <steveire> wait a minute, clear doesn't actually clear the screen. It just scrolls down
[10:54] <fritsch> steveire: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades
[10:55] <the-erm> doesn't it?
[10:55] <the-erm> Always did before ...
[10:55] <steveire> em...
[10:55] <the-erm> weird.
[10:55] <the-erm> Maybe an ansi code is in order.
[10:55] <the-erm> \e[K ???
[10:55] <Ace2007> Hi again, how can i set it so that if the mouse is over a certain program, mouse wheel up and down will make kde give key strokes to it? like mouse wheel up = ctrl+5 ?
[10:56] <the-erm> I forget.
[10:59] <the-erm> Ace2007: That's a tough one.  I'd look up "kde mouse gestures" in google for starters.
[11:00] <leveldoc> hi ppl, could someone tell me if it is safe to upgrade to KDE 3.5.4? I've heard that ppl had problems with it?
[11:00] <Ace2007> the-erm: Ok i'll give it a try
[11:00] <fritsch> leveldoc: save
[11:00] <leveldoc> thanks
[11:01] <leveldoc> I'll do that then. :)
[11:01] <fritsch> leveldoc: do a dist-upgrade
[11:01] <leveldoc> will do so
[11:01] <fritsch> leveldoc: it has to install some new libs
[11:01] <leveldoc> ok
[11:01] <Jucato> has anyone experienced this in KDE 3.5.4: media:/ and the desktop no longer show unmounted partitions/disks, even when you mount them, even if they can be accessed through the /media directory
[11:01] <leveldoc> they say, never change a running system... but if it has bugfixes, I guess that makes it worth it, right?
[11:02] <fritsch> Jucato: mmmh no
[11:02] <Jucato> leveldoc: I think the saying was "if ain't broken, don't fix it", but bug fixes mean that something's broken, so fix it. right? :-D
[11:02] <fritsch> leveldoc: good luck, what version are you running now?
[11:03] <Jucato> fritsch: that's strange...
[11:03] <fritsch> Jucato: you are running 3.5.4?
[11:04] <fritsch> Jucato: could you file a bugreport on launchpad, with  a "howto reproduce it"?
[11:04] <Jucato> I upgraded to 3.5.4 yesterday
[11:04] <Jucato> I don't know how to reproduce something that isn't there...
[11:04] <fritsch> Jucato: and there exists this problem
[11:04] <fritsch> Jucato: ah! it` s fixed?
[11:04] <fritsch> Jucato: cool
[11:05] <Jucato> I mean, I don't see the unmounted partitions
[11:05] <Jucato> I don't even know what caused it
[11:05] <fritsch> Jucato: click System-Menue
[11:05] <fritsch> Jucato: sorry just have the german translations ...
[11:05] <leveldoc> KDE v.3.5.2
[11:05] <fritsch> leveldoc: good 3.5.4 is better i think
[11:06] <leveldoc> ok
[11:06] <fritsch> leveldoc: "better" :-)
[11:06] <leveldoc> ok, wish me luck
[11:06] <Jack1> hi
[11:06] <Jucato> leveldoc: KDE 3.5.4 I think fixed the screensaver and kpager bugs, so if you use screensavers or kpager, better upgrade
[11:06] <Jucato> leveldoc: good luck!
[11:06] <fritsch> :-)
[11:07] <bnilsen> Hi.  A friend asked me to help set up his new web page.  I haven't a clue.  Is there a simple web publisher (other than the mystery of Open Office) that works right out-of -the-box? ...
[11:07] <Jack1> it says to me upgrade klamav to version 0.38 your version is outdated..when i do the next time i start the error message comes again!!
[11:07] <Jucato> fritsch: I upgraded smoothly to KDE 3.5.4 except for a small problem with KAudioCreator. It stopped there so I did a "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[11:07] <fritsch> Jucato: yes this one make problems
[11:08] <rob> bnilsen, try Nvu
[11:08] <Jack1> something into klamav?
[11:08] <Jack1> someone i mean
[11:08] <Jucato> fritsch: after the dpkg --configure -a, everything went smoothly again. but then the unmounted partitions disappeared.
[11:09] <Jucato> fritsch: even when I mount them successfully and even if I can access them through /media/xxxx, they don't display in the media:/ KIO slave or on the desktop
[11:09] <fritsch> Jucato this is trange
[11:09] <fritsch> you changed some settings - here this is working
[11:09] <Jack1> can someone help with klamav
[11:09] <fritsch> sorry have to leave
[11:10] <bnilsen> rob:  Nvu is new to me.  I have searched apt and Synaptic.  Where do I look?
[11:10] <rob> bnilsen, try searching for "nvu"
[11:10] <Jucato> bnilsen: Nvu is in the universe repostiory
[11:11] <rob> !universe
[11:11] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:11] <steveire> can grep do a not operation? grep "foo" -not "bar" hello.c to find lines with foo, but not bar.
[11:11] <leveldoc> Jucato: when I try to upgrade, it wants to install xmms .... !!???
[11:11] <bnilsen> rob & jucato.  Thanks.  I'll  try there again.
[11:11] <rob> cool
[11:12] <Jucato> leveldoc: would you happen to have superkaramba installed?
[11:12] <leveldoc> nope
[11:12] <leveldoc> it's basically a clean install, only KDE installed, not even one GNOME program...
[11:13] <Jucato> hmm.. I also remember that one upgrade did install XMMS. I just let it be installed
[11:13] <leveldoc> I have no choice anyways... but adding a 3.5.4 repo and then after a dist-upgrade have it install xmms just feels wrong. ;-)
[11:14] <Jucato> I think XMMS was installed when I upgraded to 3.5.3
[11:14] <BazziR> some KDE things have weird optional dependencies to XMMS
[11:15] <leveldoc> BazziR: it would seem so... but with amaroK, kaffeine and others, wouldn't it be time to remove them. :)
[11:15] <Jucato> Actually, some Kubuntu stuff have weird dependencies on GNOME stuff...
[11:15] <BazziR> e.g. kopete I think
[11:15] <leveldoc> kopete... I knew it! ;-) lol
[11:15] <BazziR> yeah kopete has a plugin what song youre listening to... in XMMS.
[11:16] <leveldoc> oh I lied about the not one GNOME program... I've got kino installed. Great program.
[11:16] <BazziR> Jucato: such as?
[11:16] <Jucato> BazziR: gnome-app-install
[11:16] <Jucato> err.. not that... wait...
[11:16] <BazziR> :o
[11:16] <leveldoc> well, kopete is a dependency of kubuntu-desktop, right?
[11:16] <BazziR> yah it is
[11:17] <Jucato> BazziR: I meant "app-install-data"
[11:18] <leveldoc> lol, even my kpatience gets updated... I've never experienced ONE bug in that app
[11:18] <Jucato> leveldoc: they don't only upgrade those apps that have bugs
[11:18] <leveldoc> it would seem so
[11:19] <Jucato> it would be strange if kpatience version remained KDE 3.5.2, while the rest of KDE is 3.5.4, right? :-D
[11:19] <leveldoc> oh, so they update the "about dialogue"... ;-p
[11:19] <Chousuke> :P
[11:20] <Chousuke> and you have to redownload the whole app just for that.
[11:20] <leveldoc> went through without a problem
[11:20] <Jucato> they have to update everything to make sure that everything still works with each other properly
[11:20] <leveldoc> so, I'll be back in a few if everything went right... going to log out and back in again
[11:20] <Chousuke> sometimes I wish they had binary deltas for upgrades.
[11:20] <leveldoc> brb
[11:20] <BazziR> yeah deltas are a nice invention
[11:20] <Chousuke> at least to the previous version
[11:21] <Chousuke> Jucato: delta is usually used to mean "difference"
[11:21] <Chousuke> or change.
[11:21] <Chousuke> or something like that :P
[11:21] <Jucato> ooh...
[11:21] <Jucato> Binary Delta Conversion?
[11:21] <Chousuke> basically, you'd just have to download what's changed, and nothing else
[11:21] <Jucato> ah I see
[11:22] <Chousuke> but that might require some drastic changes to dpkg.
[11:22] <Chousuke> it would be awesome though
[11:22] <Jucato> but when KDE releases a new minor release, they have to change/update everything to make sure that everything works/integrates properly right?
[11:22] <Chousuke> if you could have .deb-deltas :P
[11:23] <leveldoc> ok
[11:23] <leveldoc> seems to have worked
[11:23] <leveldoc> :)
[11:23] <leveldoc> except all my icons on the right side of the task bar are in one row
[11:23] <leveldoc> they used to be in two rows
[11:23] <Jucato> almost like a change from Kubuntu 5.10 to 6.06, but less drastic
[11:23] <leveldoc> which I liked better
[11:24] <Jucato> leveldoc: you mean the system tray? Right-click on the panel and choose COnfigure panel
[11:24] <Jucato> then for the size, choose Custom, then enter a value of 48
[11:24] <Jucato> 48 is the smallest size that allows 2 rows of icons for the system tray
[11:24] <leveldoc> hey, thanks!
[11:24] <leveldoc> (you really got to know that... it wasn't obvious to me)
[11:25] <Jucato> leveldoc: I discovered it through trial and error :-D
[11:25] <leveldoc> lol
[11:25] <leveldoc> that's the way I discovered all in linux
[11:25] <damian_> kubuntu ksucks
[11:25] <Jucato> ....
[11:25] <leveldoc> but since canonical came along... I can actually depend on the howtos written out there :)
[11:26] <Jucato> leveldoc: you could also try browsing through the forums for some other HOWTOs not found in the official wiki
[11:27] <leveldoc> Jucato: well, I suppose I *could* and sometimes I actually do that but for the most part all questions are answered through the wiki / forums / irc channels
[11:27] <leveldoc> it is amazing what a community can do without having to rely on few "specialists" in call centers
[11:27] <Jucato> that's one of the strenghts of Linux. You have a choice for your source of support: community/users or commercial support
[11:28] <Jack1> canone help me withit klamav please?
[11:28] <Jucato> of course, the distro must offer commercial support before you can avail of it :-D
[11:29] <leveldoc> Jucato: do you know by chance if theres a way to change the look of the message lists in kmail so that the info is displayed more like "outlook"? I hate to compare it, but just for a description it serves I guess
[11:29] <huaymanta> h
[11:29] <leveldoc> so that for example: subject (1st line) then author, date (2nd line)
[11:30] <Jucato> leveldoc: are you talking about the columns? like Subject | Sender | Date??
[11:30] <leveldoc> yes, for default they are ordered in columns, but I'd like to have them in lines
[11:30] <leveldoc> (rows)
[11:31] <Jucato> Ah... I'm afraid I don't have a clue as to what Outlook looks like. Kontact is the first PIM I've ever used
[11:31] <Jucato> but I did use Thunderbird for a very short time in Windows
[11:32] <leveldoc> well... imagine in bold the (unread) subject in the first row, then in the 2nd in smaller font the author and the date / time received
[11:32] <leveldoc> it would just serve better for the screen that I have (16:10)
[11:32] <leveldoc> if I want to see everything, the only choice I have I guess is to make the fonts smaller
[11:33] <berkout> :)
[11:34] <Jucato> hmm... I'll try to see what I can find.
[11:34] <leveldoc> I'll probably have to file it as a RFE
[11:34] <narvik86> RFE?
[11:35] <leveldoc> "request for enhancement" :)
[11:35] <Jucato> aah. a wishlist...
[11:35] <leveldoc> the lowest form of a bug report... ;-)
[11:35] <steveire> Why do people use programs like kmail/outlook/thunderbird?
[11:36] <leveldoc> steveire: why do people use their web browser for everything?
[11:36] <Jucato> steveire: probably for a number of different reasons?
[11:36] <steveire> I open gmail, and there is my email. Why would I want a separate client for that?
[11:36] <Jucato> 1. being able to download and read your mails on your computer
[11:37] <Jack1> who would choose opera over konqueror?
[11:37] <Jack1> opera having builtin irc and mail
[11:37] <leveldoc> Jack1: now *that* is a good question! :)
[11:37] <Jucato> 2. being able to have the e-mail sent to you, rather than you going to Gmail (like an RSS feed)
[11:37] <Jack1> yes isnt it?
[11:37] <Jack1> leveldoc i am convinced more and more
[11:38] <Jucato> 3. Not having to go load a webpage in order to check each and every one of  your mail.
[11:38] <Jucato> 4. very useful if you have multiple e-mail accounts
[11:38] <Jack1> leveldoc can u help with the clamav?
[11:38] <steveire> I get notified when I get an email. What is th advantage of downloading it to my comp?
[11:38] <Jack1> offline use
[11:38] <Jucato> steveire: you can save it. backup
[11:38] <leveldoc> Jack1: not really... I've only set it up once on a server... what do you need?
[11:38] <steveire> Maybe if I used multiple email accounts I'd use one,
[11:39] <Jack1> leveldoc it notifies me that i got old version, then i upgrade next time same again
[11:39] <Jucato> different strokes for different folks :-D
[11:40] <leveldoc> I think they also tell you to read the FAQ on their website, don't they? I remember vaguely getting an "error", but it also read: "Relax, read [URL] "... it turned out that it wasn't so bad after all..
[11:40] <leveldoc> sorry I can't be of more help
[11:40] <Jucato> gotta go
[11:40] <Jucato> dinner time
[11:40] <leveldoc> but I had that error too, it wasn't really an issue though
[11:40] <leveldoc> Jucato: bye :)
[11:47] <narvik86> how can i have icon of network connection in the tray?
[11:48] <leveldoc> narvik86: I use knemo
[11:48] <leveldoc> I downloaded it from the German kubuntu.de repository server
[11:48] <apexified> Can someone help me think of a program that would be good for making and gathering (possibly organizing) notes, ideas, etc.?
[11:48] <narvik86> leveldoc, thanks I  will try
[11:49] <leveldoc> apexified: "basket"
[11:49] <leveldoc> apexified: or knote on a more simpler basis?
[11:50] <aliasfred> apexified: i use a wiki for that. mediawiki is my favorite
[11:50] <apexified> leveldoc: I'm using knotes, but was looking for something more... together. categories and such. labels.
[11:51] <apexified> something good for someone with ADD... which I *must* have ;)
[11:51] <leveldoc> apexified: well, you might want to try "basket", it can organize files, notes, web pages etc and put it into an organized structure
[11:51] <apexified> ty, for the suggestion
[11:52] <leveldoc> I think it's in the universe repository, but I'm not sure
[11:52] <evilmegaman> hi just wondering, how do I get the bcm43xx module to not load at boot?
[11:52] <apexified> leveldoc: it is :)
[11:52] <evilmegaman> I want to use the ndiswrapper module instead
[11:54] <Jack1> is it in klamav sufficient to scan the /home directory or need all of them be scanned?
[11:54] <evilmegaman> 260 people and no one has responded yet :P
[11:54] <leveldoc> Jack1: it depends what you want to do. Is it a server? Your desktop?
[11:54] <Jack1> desktop
[11:54] <leveldoc> I'd say it's enough to scan your homedir. :)
[11:55] <Jack1> ok thx leveldoc
[11:55] <leveldoc> but again it depends on your security needs.
[11:55] <leveldoc> why would you want to have an antivirus installed on your desktop anyways?
[11:55] <evilmegaman> any one know how to get the bcm43xx module not start at boot?
[11:56] <narvik86> try rmmod
[11:56] <evilmegaman> I did
[11:56] <leveldoc> evilmegaman: man 5 modprobe.conf
[11:56] <evilmegaman> Ah
[11:57] <evilmegaman> modprobe.conf... thanks!
[11:57] <leveldoc> that would be my best guess
[11:57] <leveldoc> no guarantee :)
[11:57] <|lostbyte|> Good Mroning Guys..
[11:57] <|lostbyte|> Morning
[11:58] <narvik86> hello
[11:58] <evilmegaman> there is no modprobe.conf :-/
[11:59] <|lostbyte|> narvik86, Hi.
[11:59] <evilmegaman> just the modprobe.d directory
[11:59] <|lostbyte|> Any one here using dyndns ?
[11:59] <narvik86> no
[11:59] <narvik86> I'm not using it
[11:59] <leveldoc> evilmegaman: hey, found something
[12:00] <leveldoc> evilmegaman: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[12:00] <evilmegaman> Awesome thanks leveldoc
[12:00] <leveldoc> # This file lists those modules which we don't want to be loaded by
[12:00] <leveldoc> # alias expansion, usually so some other driver will be loaded for the
[12:00] <leveldoc> # device instead.
[12:00] <evilmegaman> Okay cool :D
[12:00] <leveldoc> maybe that works here?
[12:00] <evilmegaman> should
[12:00] <evilmegaman> I will give it a shot ;)
[12:00] <leveldoc> let me know if it worked
[12:01] <narvik86> leveldoc, i installed knemo, how to start it?
[12:01] <leveldoc> under the KDE Ressources, you can activate the service
[12:01] <leveldoc> (System Settings - KDE Components - Services)
[12:02] <narvik86> leveldoc thank you. now it is working :)
[12:02] <leveldoc> I like it
[12:03] <leveldoc> I've been waiting for something like this for a long time... under KDE, that is
[12:03] <leveldoc> GNOME has it since at least three years
[12:03] <leveldoc> ... ;-)
[12:03] <narvik86> i'm stlli thinking about gnome...
[12:04] <leveldoc> I think KDE is integrated better... applications are actually working together. And let's not start about Printing under GNOME... ;-)
[12:04] <narvik86> maybe i should try, but KDE is really nice for me :-)
[12:04] <leveldoc> well, I guess everybody has different tastes, so...
[12:06] <narvik86> i have knemo now, i have to stay :)
[12:06] <leveldoc> lol
[12:11] <Jack1> can someone tell me what is going on with klamav when it says:
[12:11] <Jack1> Dazuko was not loaded successfully. Please check your installation.
[12:13] <narvik86> you need to load/install dazuko i think
[12:13] <slow-motion> hallo
[12:13] <Jack1> well if i wanna do that i get the message above
[12:15] <narvik86> sorry, i dont know :(
[12:15] <leveldoc> ok guys, I'm off.. cya
[12:15] <narvik86> c u
[12:18] <the-erm> anyone know what package kglobal.h is in?  I need it, and I've installed almost all kde devel files.
[12:19] <narvik86> http://developer.kde.org/documentation/library/3.0-api/classref/kdecore/kglobal_h.html
[12:19] <narvik86> maybe it will help
[12:19] <the-erm> I'll try.
[12:19] <the-erm> Yup that's the header.
[12:19] <the-erm> Problem is it should be in a package with all the others I need.
[12:20] <Teejay_wp> I tried to do the sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin command
[12:20] <narvik86> which package?
[12:20] <Teejay_wp> I am using kubuntu 6.06
[12:21] <the-erm> that's my problem.  ... is there a urmpf type command?
[12:21] <the-erm> urpmf searches all the files that are installed.
[12:21] <Teejay_wp> and it said Couldn't find package sun-java5-bin
[12:21] <the-erm> er ... all the packages that could be installed.
[12:22] <Jucato> Teejay_wp: try to check if you have multiverse in your sources.list
[12:22] <the-erm> Teejay_wp: I think you need the right respritory in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:22] <Teejay_wp> okay
[12:22] <the-erm> oosp sorry I didn't read that.
[12:23] <Teejay_wp> I will what you said
[12:24] <the-erm> http://blog.the-erm.com/index.php/archives/170#more-170 // My source list is on that page.
[12:24] <the-erm> Of course I'm just starting out with this distro.
[12:24] <Jucato> Teejay_wp: you might find this link useful: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:25] <Jucato> the-erm: I might have something probably more useful for you. Try typing "apt:/" in Konqueror
[12:27] <the-erm> ok
[12:27] <the-erm> I'll try that.
[12:29] <the-erm> ... odd it's installed.
[12:29] <Jucato> the-erm: which is installed?
[12:29] <the-erm> kglobal.h
[12:29] <the-erm> the dev file is there.  Just not being seen by the compiler.
[12:33] <Jucato> oh...
[12:36] <evilmegaman> if I have gnome AND kde, will I be able to modify the menus seperately so I can get rid of kde apps in the gnome menus and gnome apps in the kde menu?
[12:38] <the-erm> evilmegaman: don't quote me on it, but I think kde, and Gnome use 2 different files for their menus.
[12:38] <the-erm> I know for sure there is a ~/.kde and a ~/.gnome folder.
[12:38] <evilmegaman> yeah
[12:38] <evilmegaman> I guess I will just give it a shot
[12:38] <the-erm> So the chances of gnome and kde having the exact same menu isn't likely.
[12:39] <Jucato> evilmegaman: I've had the very bad experience of hiding KDE menu entries in GNOME using Alacarte and they disappear in K Menu as well.
[12:39] <evilmegaman> Ohh
[12:39] <Jucato> the-erm: unfortunately, they both seem to use ~/.locale for some menu entries
[12:39] <evilmegaman> jucato, so how do I remove the entries?
[12:39] <Jucato> don't quite me on this, too. but that's just my observation...
[12:40] <Jucato> I did the only safe thing I could do. Move all menu items that I don't want to see in a single folder. :-D
[12:40] <evilmegaman> lol
[12:40] <evilmegaman> I will check #ubuntu.. maybe they have an idea
[12:40] <Jucato> that's only in K Menu. I've given up changing things in Alacarte...
[12:41] <evilmegaman> I see
[12:41] <Jucato> oh, I think there's a small program in KDE-Apps that sort of does what you want
[12:41] <Jucato> let me look it up
[12:41] <evilmegaman> Oh really?
[12:41] <evilmegaman> Okay
[12:43] <Jucato> evilmegaman: try this: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=31031
[12:43] <Jucato> I can't verify that it works 100% though
[12:43] <Jucato> I just saw some people recommend it
[12:44] <evilmegaman> Oh okay
[12:45] <Jack1> can opera in kubuntu get upgraded like eg kde or do i need to get all the installation file again and again?
[12:46] <Jucato> Jack1: probably the same way with other apps... wait till it gets updated in the repositories. it's the safest way I know of.
[12:46] <Jucato> of course, since Opera is in the Ubuntu commercial channel/repository, a different rule might apply
i just saw my cversion is outdated but in the resps nothing more up-to-date
[12:47] <me> hi.  i am trying out kubuntu for the first time.  i am familiar with redhat/fedora.  i     am   used to cervisia and kompare being part of the kdesdk.  i was playing with apt-get and then adept to install those two components.  in adept it is greyed out.  how would i install them?
[12:47] <Jack1> but i read u need to get the file full again and again
[12:48] <Jucato> well I'm not sure how Opera will be upgraded. It's not something like Firefox which has updates almost immediately available a few days after an upgrade from Mozilla is released.
[12:48] <Jack1> yes seems to be more complicated
[12:49] <player_> hello there
[12:49] <player_> i am a newbie ubuntu user
[12:50] <Jucato> It's even complicated more by the fact that Opera resides on a special repository of its own, a repository where we don't know the rules/process...
[12:50] <me> i am trying to install software via Adept.  how do i install something that is greyed out?
[12:50] <player_> can someone help me install firefox step by steo ?
[12:50] <narvik86> download and run ;)
[12:50] <narvik86> i've downloaded ffox from website
[12:50] <player_> i have downloaded the tar.gz file
[12:51] <narvik86> unpack it
[12:51] <Jack1> however seems to be some good piece of work
[12:51] <Jucato> me: check if the universe repository is enabled. Go to the Adept menu and choose Manage Repositories
[12:51] <player_> after unpacking it what should i do next ?
[12:51] <narvik86> run firefox
[12:51] <Jucato> narvik86: no need to do that, though. The repository has the latest Firefox version
[12:51] <narvik86> with local languages?
[12:51] <Jucato> actually, -1 latest version
[12:51] <narvik86> i mean i have PL
[12:51] <player_> run firefox <--- how? i am a completely newbie here. actually this is the first time i saw this desktop
[12:51] <Jucato> narvik86: aaah
[12:52] <player_> and is it ok if i un tar it anywhere ?
[12:52] <Jucato> does player_ need a localized version?
[12:52] <narvik86> for now its ok
[12:52] <Jack1> Jucato is there a way to edit the sources.lst to eg opera-latest to get the latest stuff?
[12:52] <narvik86> don't know, player_ you can get it by repository
[12:53] <Jucato> Jack1: I don't think so. Opera is on a special Ubuntu repository called the commercial channel. So updates would probably come from there.
[12:53] <narvik86> click on file firefox
[12:53] <narvik86> brb
[12:53] <player_> click on file firefox <-- then ? i clicked it once nothing happened
[12:53] <player_> should i execute command shell ?
[12:54] <knubbe> Jack1: opera has its own repositories.
yes i understand
[12:54] <Jucato> player_: if you don't mind, since you're new, I would recommend you do it the easy way
[12:54] <Jucato> player_: if you don't mind, since you're new, I would recommend you do it the easy way first
[12:55] <player_> if you don't mind, since you're new, I would recommend you do it the easy way first <-- whats the easy way ? lol i am a complete newbie and just finished first time installo f this OS
[12:55] <Jucato> player_:  in K Menu > System, launch Adept.
[12:55] <player_> please help me ?? whats the easy way ?
[12:55] <narvik86> from repository
[12:55] <Jucato> tell me when Adept is running already
[12:55] <narvik86> run adept
[12:56] <Jucato> Then in Adept, type in "firefox" (without the quotes) on the search box so that anything with the word "firefox" will be displayed
[12:56] <player_> re:Jucato - i do not see adept anywhere
[12:56] <intelikey> i just ooops'd    need a fs expert.    i have /dev/hdd with data on ext3fs   and  was running an installer on /dev/hdb when i noticed that it partitioned /dev/hdc also.... now i have a partition table on my file system   anyone know if this can be fixed or if i seriously need to back up the data that is there and reformat it ???
[12:57] <knubbe> jack1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[12:57] <narvik86> player_ k->system->adept
[12:57] <Jucato> err... K Menu > System sub-menu > Package Manger (Adept) ??
[12:57] <me> jucato - thanks!  i also just realized i was using Add/Remove programs instead of the "real" Adept
[12:57] <intelikey> s/hdd/hdc  ^      anyone knowledagable ???
[12:58] <Jack1> i just see that konquis x to blank the address space is extremely helpful and not available in opera
[12:58] <Jucato> me: no problem. I find the Add/Remove Programs to be quite... beta...
[12:58] <player_> i dont see it too
[12:58] <player_> lol
[12:58] <player_> do i have to install adept 1st ?
[12:58] <me> so if universe is enabled, i could apt-get install kompare ?
[12:58] <narvik86> player_ do you have kubuntu?
[12:58] <Jucato> player_:  oh heck... just press Alt+F2 and type in "kdesu adept"
[12:59] <player_> i am using kubuntu right now ?
[12:59] <Jucato> me: yep
[12:59] <narvik86> player_ yes?
[12:59] <player_> yes i am using kubuntu
[12:59] <me> ah.  that makes more sense than installing the kdesdk rpm ;)
[12:59] <Jucato> me: just don't forget to sudo update first after changing something in sources.list. :-D
[01:00] <narvik86> you have to have adept
[01:00] <Jucato> Adept is installed by default
[01:00] <player_> hmmm ? i remember i tried removing some programs earlier
[01:01] <Jucato> player_: hmm... Press Alt+F2, and type in "kdesu adept" without the quotes
 player_: hmm... Press Alt+F2, and type in "kdesu adept" without the quotes <-- just tried this and it was asking me for a password
[01:02] <Jucato> good
[01:02] <Jucato> enter your password
[01:02] <narvik86> Jucato locales are also in repository :) my fault
[01:02] <player_> i entered my password and this appeared "Conversation with su failed."
[01:02] <Jucato> hmm...
[01:03] <player_> what does that mean ?
[01:03] <narvik86> player_ probably you will need to use a console
[01:03] <player_> ok
[01:03] <intelikey> anyone know a safe way to delete that partition table ?
[01:03] <player_> i am at the console now
[01:04] <player_> Konsole (Terminal Program)
[01:04] <Jucato> player_: type in "sudo apt-get install firefox" (without quotes)
[01:04] <player_> what should i do next ?
[01:04] <narvik86> Jucato is faster :) follow him
[01:04] <Jucato> err... I just happen to be doing nothing right now
[01:04] <narvik86> i have broken collarbone :/
[01:04] <Jucato> just waiting for the lines to scroll up :-D
[01:05] <Jucato> ooh... that's sad... :-(
[01:06] <narvik86> http://n86.cba.pl/pictures/!accident%20001_medium.jpg  bad quality but you can see this
[01:06] <Jucato> player_: you mentioned you removed some programs earlier? what did you try to remove, and what happened?
[01:06] <intelikey> ok anyone know where i might find someone that knows ?
[01:06] <Jucato> narvik86: it is bad... :-(
[01:07] <player_> lol
[01:07] <narvik86> brb, eating :-)
[01:07] <chicosanchez> buenos das!
[01:07] <Jucato> hehe!
[01:08] <Jucato> good morning
[01:08] <chicosanchez> alguien en espanish ?
[01:08] <Jucato> (even if it's night time here in my place)
[01:08] <me> i've been paying around for a bit with apt.  so i see apt-cache for searching/showing info on packages.  is there a way to dump a list of just what is installed?
[01:08] <me> i see showpkg, but that doesn't seem     to be what i am looking for
[01:08] <bugoy> hello i'm back
[01:08] <bugoy> i was the "_player" a while ago
[01:08] <bugoy> 1st of all
[01:09] <Jucato> me: do you need a printable list in plain text format, or just something you can view?
[01:09] <bugoy> how do i get back the default layout of my kubuntu desktop ?
[01:09] <bugoy> default taskbar and everything ?
[01:09] <Jucato> me: in Adept, you can check/uncheck the filter boxes so that it will only display installed packages
[01:09] <Jucato> bugoy: why? what happened?
[01:09] <me> oh, command line
[01:09] <Jucato> aaah
[01:09] <Jucato> hmm...
[01:10] <Jack1> if i want to add deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free
[01:10] <me> or is there a directory to ls or file to cat
[01:10] <bugoy> i dunno i just restarted this machine then suddenly
[01:10] <Jack1> to me sources list via synaptic
[01:10] <bugoy> all the icons on the taskbar are gone
[01:10] <bugoy> also the clock
[01:10] <bugoy>  and the desktop selection icon
[01:10] <bugoy> s
[01:10] <Gumby> can anyone here tell me the directory structure of ubuntu's mirrors.  I am running amd64 but looking for a i386 package and cant seem to browse my way in a repo thus far
[01:10] <Jack1> do i have to add to channel ubuntu 6.06. binary or source?
[01:10] <Jack1> source right?
[01:11] <me> say i am testing someting on a machine on the internet, so i can use apt-get, etc.  then i want to configure another machine that isn't online.  so i want to be able to dump the files/dependencies to a CDROM and then bring the offline machine up to date with the same config
[01:11] <Jucato> Jack1: just take note that the repository you are adding cannot be guaranteed to work 100% without any problems in Ubuntu, because it's an outside repository...
[01:11] <Jack1> well yes
[01:12] <Jucato> me: oh... I think that's beyond my current knowledge of Linux/Kubuntu... :-(
[01:12] <Jucato> Jack1: it might also conflict with Ubuntu's version of Opera?
[01:12] <me> i know FreeBSD has packages and it leaves them in a common directory after installing them
[01:12] <Jucato> bugoy: this is a fresh install of Kubuntu, right?
[01:12] <Jucato> ah
[01:12] <me> so all deps get downloaded and the package directory can just be copied later
[01:12] <Jack1> Jucato in the help it says
[01:12] <Jack1> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main
[01:13] <Jucato> me: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[01:13] <me> hmm
[01:13] <Jack1> is as good as http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free
[01:13] <Jucato> Jack1: oh ok, if they said so...
[01:13] <Jack1> however do i need to add it to channel source or binary
[01:14] <me> ah, so in theory i could copy the archives directory and then apt-get it on the other machine and it should just install it from cache?
[01:14] <Jucato> I'm not sure about apt-get
[01:14] <Jucato> I'm not sure about "apt-get"-ing it
[01:14] <intelikey> me yes if the other box has the same repos setup.   yes.
[01:14] <Jucato> you could probably just use "dpkg -i"?
[01:14] <rob_> hello, when i add a mp3 from a smb share in my amarok playlist, amarok craches. Does anybody here know a solution to this problem?
[01:15] <me> ah.  dpkg works with .deb files
[01:15] <intelikey> me i do that a lot with apt   it works well.
[01:15] <Jucato> Jack1: probably not anymore. the commercial channel contains more than just Opera
[01:15] <Jucato> ah so apt-get can also work with single .deb files?
[01:15] <me> intelikey, should i copy the whole /var/cache/apt tree?
[01:15] <me> or just archives
[01:16] <intelikey> just archives.deb
[01:16] <Jucato> just the archives/ as it's the one that contains the .deb files
[01:16] <intelikey> me you don't want to mix your package databases  that can get messy.
[01:17] <me> i guess because it knows the install states
[01:18] <apexified> i really like using topstyle, but i was wondering if anyone could suggest something similar...
[01:18] <me> well, this has all been very helpful.
[01:18] <apexified> or any other web design/development tools for linux
[01:18] <intelikey> the databases keep track of what is installed and what's avalable     but the packages then selves in /var/cache/apt/archives/   (omitting ./partial)  is what you want to share.
[01:18] <Jucato> There's Quanta, Nvu, and Bluefish for web design/development
[01:19] <Jucato> take your pick :-D
[01:19] <Jucato> Btw, Quanta is the KDE app
[01:19] <intelikey> well if no one knows anything about my fs problem i'll go now.
[01:20] <Jucato> intelikey: sorry I couldn't be of help. Filesystems scare the !@*% out of me...
[01:20] <narvik86> what do u want to do?
[01:20] <intelikey> narvik86 me ?
[01:21] <narvik86> intelikey yes
[01:21] <intelikey> i just ooops'd    need a fs expert.    i have /dev/hdc with data on ext3fs   and  was running an installer on /dev/hdb when i noticed that it partitioned /dev/hdc also.... now i have a partition table on my file system   anyone know if this can be fixed or if i seriously need to back up the data that is there and reformat it ???
[01:22] <digibre4k_> i'm coming
[01:22] <narvik86> i don't know how to undo those changes, tried qtparted?
[01:23] <narvik86> you can access this hdc partition?
[01:23] <narvik86> can you*?
[01:23] <Jack1> quoting
[01:23] <Jack1> : Opera eliminates
[01:23] <Jack1> sluggish performance, HTML standard violations, desktop
[01:23] <Jack1> domination, and instability.
[01:23] <Jack1> what is menat with desktop domination?
[01:23] <Jack1> meant
[01:23] <bugoy> please help me
[01:24] <bugoy> huhuhuhuhu
[01:24] <intelikey> narvik86 the partition ?    havent tried.  i have the fs mounted but fdisk -l reports the partition table.  that could lead to huge problems...
[01:24] <bugoy> i cannot install any program
[01:24] <bugoy> here in myy kubuntu
[01:24] <Jucato> bugoy: I asked you if this is a very fresh install of Kubuntu and what programs did you remove earlier?
[01:24] <bugoy> even flash player
[01:24] <bugoy> yes this is
[01:24] <bugoy> a fresh intall sir
[01:24] <narvik86> intelikey so dont mount it
[01:24] <bugoy> and i removed some programs
[01:24] <Jucato> bugoy: what did you remove?
[01:25] <bugoy> i forgot
[01:25] <Jucato> err...
[01:25] <Jucato> hmm...
[01:25] <bugoy> anyway how can i go to the list of installed prgrams ?
[01:25] <narvik86> intelikey what is shown in qtparted??
[01:25] <intelikey> narvik86 you dont see to follow me.   the disk is 3/4 full of data i don't want to loose.
[01:25] <intelikey> seem
[01:25] <Jucato> bugoy: in Konsole, do this "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[01:26] <intelikey> narvik86 the data is in a file system (ext3) on /dev/hdc  (whole disk)
[01:26] <Jack1> Jucato i get:  Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>=3:3.2.1) but it is not installable
[01:26] <Jack1> when i want to upgrade opera
[01:27] <narvik86> intelikey i don't know a lot about fs, maybe you can create image of hdc? if you have free space now, i don't want to waste your data
[01:27] <intelikey> narvik86 but now the disk "ALSO" has a partition table.   i want to remove the partition tabel without damaging the fs.
[01:27] <narvik86> intelikey dd program
[01:27] <Jucato> Jack1: hm... we don't seem to have that package available in the repository...
[01:28] <Jucato> we do have a libqt3-mt
[01:28] <narvik86> intelikey wait a second
[01:28] <Jucato> er wait...
[01:28] <intelikey> if i have any place that will hold the data.    let me search.     (i was hoping that backup was not the only option)
[01:28] <Jucato> Jack1: what version of KDE are you on?
[01:29] <Jack1> 3.5.3
[01:29] <Jucato> hmm...
[01:29] <Jucato> bugoy: what happened? did you try the command I gave?
[01:29] <Jucato> Jack1: you're using the separate Opera repository right?
[01:31] <narvik86> intelikey maybe you should try http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ bootable cd with a lot of tools, there should be some to remove/edit partition table
[01:32] <intelikey> narvik86 ok.  thanks  i'll look into that.    and thanks for the time of day.      sometimes it helps just to get an 'i dont know' answer   rather than being ignored....
[01:33] <Jack1> JUCATO YES
[01:33] <narvik86> intelikey i will boot from this cd and tell you
[01:33] <Jack1> jucato yes  do
[01:33] <narvik86> intelikey what tools are for you
[01:33] <intelikey> i can edit the partition table with c/fdisk
[01:34] <jott> intelikey: http://www.sleuthkit.org/ and http://e2salvage.sourceforge.net/ can be helpful
[01:34] <Jucato> Jack1: and you are trying to install a version of Opera that's more up-to-date than the current version available in the Ubuntu commercial channel? It might be that the new Opera version is depending on a newer version of libqt3-mt that is not yet available in Ubuntu
[01:34] <intelikey> just not sure how well the fs will take it.
[01:34] <narvik86> intelikey but from cd, any data wont be mounted
[01:34] <jott> intelikey: additionally (but not for beginners) http://lde.sourceforge.net/
[01:34] <intelikey> jott e2salvage   k
[01:34] <intelikey> lde  hmmmmm
[01:35] <intelikey> lde - Linux Disk Editor   is in the repos
i think so yes so no help
[01:36] <jott> but there you should be into partition table and ext internal structures ;)
[01:36] <intelikey> e2salvage isn't....   hmm jott   thanks for the input there.
[01:36] <Jucato> Jack1: unfortunately, I don't think I can be of much help... :-(
[01:36] <Jack1> no mate thats was good
[01:36] <narvik86> intelikey brb i will chceck ultimatebootcd
[01:36] <me> jucato, dpkg -l is the command line version of what i was looking for
[01:36] <jott> intelikey: the e2salvage site has also serveral links as it seems
[01:37] <intelikey> yeah looking
[01:37] <Jucato> me: it was that simple?!? lol! I don't use dpkg that much, so I guess I'm a noob when it comes to it's options.
[01:37] <Jucato> me: but how do you get it tolist only installed packages?
[01:38] <me> oh, that isn''t installed?
[01:38] <jott> intelikey: when you have the disk space i would dd out the whole disk so you can play around with it, without making more damage
[01:38] <Jucato> me: ooh. dpkg -L (capital L)
[01:39] <Jucato> me: scratch that... I'm still not sure...
[01:39] <me> well, dpkg -l kompare show me it
[01:40] <me> dpkg -l cervisia doesn't find it
[01:40] <me> i never installed cervisia ye
[01:40] <Jucato> hmm...
[01:41] <Jucato> dpkg -l <package_name> is only supposed to show packages with that name. sort of apt-cache show <package_name>
[01:41] <intelikey> dpkg -l     lists all installed packages
[01:42] <Jucato> Jack1: you could probably just use an alternative method from the wiki to install Opera
[01:43] <me> i am getting that apt is just a nice way to manage packages, but really just a sophisticated front-end to dpkg
[01:43] <me> kind of like yum was to rpm management on fedora
[01:43] <Jucato> er.. apt is really a front end to dpkg. Adept, Synaptic, etc. are GUI front-ends to apt
[01:44] <intelikey> me all the package managers in debian/*buntu are jsut frontends to dpkg = the debian package manager
[01:44] <Jucato> CLI front-ends to DPKG include Apt and Aptitude. GUI front-ends are countless...
[01:44] <raphael_> Hello
[01:44] <raphael_> i have a question
[01:45] <Jucato> actually, Apt is CLI-based front-end for a package manager. If I remember correctly, some RPM-based distros use Apt because of it's dependency handling capabilities
[01:46] <raphael_> My kubuntu is update and i can see Kubuntu 6.06.1 LTS when I halt my computer, and the question is: Is there iso of this version on the net?
[01:46] <me> some of you may find this funny.  i'm using Windows XP using a VMWare client via WiFi connected to a FC4 VMWare server running Kubuntu
[01:47] <me> and it all still works
[01:47] <Jucato> er.... XP ----> VMWare FC4 ----> VMWare Kubuntu??? that has just made my head spin... @_@
[01:48] <me> i still never managed to get my USB bluetooth to go online with my cell phone, so i boot up in XP when i'm on the road
[01:49] <me> then i forget to go back to linux, esp because my firefox bookmarks are then on the wrong partition
[01:51] <bugoy> hello there
[01:51] <intelikey> well guys jott and narvik86    i think i have the answer now.   it seems that ext3fs is pretty stable.  the changes made externally to the first super block don't seem to be any real concern.  cause replaying the journal shows to keep that fs usable   i have removed the partition table and cycled mounting procedures the fs seems to be all intact.    thanks for the input sujestions and links.
[01:51] <bugoy> i'm back and i re installed everything
[01:51] <bugoy> i now see Adept
[01:51] <bugoy> lol
[01:52] <jott> intelikey: great!
[01:52] <bimberi> me: just a thought - http://www.google.com/tools/firefox/browsersync/
[01:53] <narvik86> itelikey, yes, great
[01:53] <narvik86> itelikey, how did you remove partition table? :)
[01:54] <intelikey> i sure had a dark brown taste in my mouth when i first saw that that installer had written a partition table on my storage fs....
[01:54] <intelikey> narvik86 cfdisk
[01:54] <narvik86> ok
[01:55] <intelikey> i backed up the first major block of the disk and then did it,  so i could undo it if it hosed the fs.
[01:55] <me> thanks bimberi.  that saves it on google's servers?
[01:56] <bimberi> me: yes, i'd say so.  I've only heard of it myself - not used it
[01:56] <intelikey> something jott said that made me think of it.    so i did a  dd if=/dev/hdc of=backup bs=8192 count=2       and went to work.
[01:57] <bugoy> can someone give me a step by step procedure how to install the grapichs driver from nvidia.com for my inno3d MX400 vid card ? here in kubuntu ?
[01:57] <intelikey> !ati
[01:57] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:57] <intelikey> bugoy that is said to be what you want ^
[01:58] <intelikey> i've never used it.   don't need drivers.
[01:58] <narvik86> don't need drivers?
[01:58] <Jucato> I think I might have a more useful link
[01:58] <Jucato> wait
 i've never used it.   don't need drivers. <-- wow !? really ? thanks for the info
[02:00] <Jucato> bugoy: you can also try this: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper <-- follow method 1
[02:00] <intelikey> bugoy if i need to clean that up a little for you.   i have an nvidia agp card but it is an old one and i don't think it even has any 3d ability so the  nv driver that comes with the distro and is installed by default is all i ever use.
[02:01] <Jucato> I'm using Inno3D GeForce4 MX4000....
[02:02] <bugoy> i see
[02:02] <bugoy> i'm using Inno3d MX400 64mb 64bit
[02:02] <bugoy> do you think i still need to install a driver for this ?\
[02:03] <Jucato> only if you think you're going to need 3D acceleration
[02:03] <bugoy> yes  i will
[02:03] <Jucato> then go for it.
[02:04] <intelikey> mine is like a thompson joint venture riva128  i think.   maybe agp X2  at the most.    so 3D is probably unheard of.
[02:04] <intelikey> i wouldn't mess with it if it could do 3D   (not a gamer)
[02:06] <jott> intelikey: it has 3d acceleration :) ... (back in old times quake1&2 ran like a charm with it ;)
[02:07] <intelikey> really.   hehhe  and only 16M on the card
[02:08] <intelikey> i guess 16M was a lot back then
[02:08] <londrinense> Can anybody help me get to know how much data I sent and received during my actual session?
[02:08] <bugoy> i cannot understand what the hell the tutorial says
[02:08] <bugoy> i am using kubuntu
[02:08] <bugoy> huhuhuhuh can someone please help me install the nvidia driver ?
[02:08] <Jucato> 32MB of RAM was big back then...
[02:09] <Jucato> bugoy: ok let me try this..
[02:09] <lackdiant> Hi, is it usual to have too many python processes in ksysguard?
[02:09] <bugoy> thanks Jucato
[02:09] <lackdiant> I have about 20 or 30
[02:09] <Jucato> bugoy: first open up Konsole
[02:09] <bugoy> ok im gere
[02:09] <bugoy> herre
[02:10] <Jucato> bugoy: then type this "uname -r" (no quotes)
[02:10] <bugoy> ok
[02:10] <bugoy> 2.6.15-23-386 <-- this appeared ?
[02:10] <bugoy> now what ?
[02:10] <Jucato> ok.. remember the "386" number
[02:10] <Jucato> that's your computer architecture
[02:10] <bugoy> ok
[02:10] <bugoy> ok
[02:10] <intelikey> londrinense sinfo.pl   that version  does a good job of reporting data transfer   it runs from the command line    or can spam an irc channel and get you kicked out...  :)
[02:11] <Jucato> umm... wait a minute... before I go on...
[02:11] <nanotube> hello, how can I please make my ra0 network interface eth0?
[02:11] <Jucato> what kind of processor do you have btw?
[02:11] <jott> intelikey: http://developer.nvidia.com/object/RIVA_128_FAQ.html It's powerful 100MHz 128-bit architecture, capable of processing 5 GFLOPS and 15 billion operations per second, provides maximum 2D and 3D acceleration for every application, regardless of which CPU it's being processed on.  ;)
[02:11] <bugoy> amd Athlon XP 1800+ i think
[02:11] <Tommy> is there a fix for why kubuntu wont shut down it just stays on going to halt
[02:11] <Jucato> er...
[02:12] <Jucato> anyway, moving on...
[02:12] <bugoy> ok
[02:12] <intelikey> jott so my 5$ vidio card was a bargan ?
[02:12] <Jucato> bugoy: type this in Konsole "sudo apt-get install linux-386" (no quotes)
[02:13] <jott> intelikey: oh it was actually quite nice .... i used it for serveral years...
[02:13] <Jucato> bugoy: this will install everything related to the 386 Linux kernel, including the linux-restricted-modules that you need
[02:13] <intelikey> :)
[02:13] <bugoy> ok
[02:13] <jott> intelikey: funny thing is, windows nt does not even support it ;)
[02:14] <bugoy> it said alot of intructions
[02:14] <bugoy> too long to paste
[02:14] <bugoy> after entering my passworf
[02:14] <bugoy> what now /
[02:14] <bugoy> ?
[02:14] <Jucato> it asks if you want to install the packages right?
[02:14] <bugoy> Reading package lists... Done
[02:14] <Jucato> bugoy: it asks if you want to install the packages right?
[02:14] <bugoy> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:14] <jordan> hi
[02:15] <bugoy> The following packages will be upgraded:
[02:15] <bugoy>   linux-386
[02:15] <bugoy> 1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 103 not upgraded.
[02:15] <bugoy> Need to get 23.4kB of archives.
[02:15] <jordan> I have install ati driver and have
[02:15] <jordan> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:15] <jordan> direct rendering: No
[02:15] <jordan> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[02:15] <bugoy> After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
[02:15] <bugoy> Get:1 http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/restricted linux-386 2.6.15.24 [23.4kB] 
[02:15] <bugoy> Fetched 23.4kB in 2s (9811B/s)
[02:15] <Jucato> er....
[02:15] <bugoy> (Reading database ... 65279 files and directories currently installed.)
[02:15] <bugoy> Preparing to replace linux-386 2.6.15.22 (using .../linux-386_2.6.15.24_i386.deb) ...
[02:15] <bugoy> Unpacking replacement linux-386 ...
[02:15] <bugoy> Setting up linux-386 (2.6.15.24) ...
[02:15] <bugoy> thats what happened
[02:15] <bugoy> no it did not asked me anything
[02:15] <Hotwire> www.pastebin.it
[02:16] <Jucato> bugoy: do you see a small open box icon with a "!" sign, sitting in your system tray?
[02:16] <bugoy> now what ?
[02:16] <bugoy> yes
[02:16] <Jucato> that's the Upgrade Notifier
[02:17] <bugoy> saying "There are 103 updated packages available"
[02:17] <Jucato> It notifies you if there are Upgrades to be downloaded. something like the Windows Updater
[02:17] <bugoy> what shoould i do w/ it ??
[02:17] <Jucato> click on it. it will ask for your password
[02:17] <Jucato> You should upgrade first before installing drivers...
[02:18] <bugoy> ok sir
[02:18] <bugoy> currently updating
[02:19] <Jucato> :-D
[02:19] <jordan> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:19] <jordan> enybody can help me ?
[02:20] <jordan> I'm reinstall ati driver and problem fix for 2h and come again
[02:20] <narvik86> jordan: try with this http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[02:21] <narvik86> jordan first method works for me
[02:21] <Jucato> brb.. out to buy a chocolate bar...
[02:21] <narvik86> :)
[02:22] <jordan> google tell me " dri don;t installed". How to install them ?
[02:23] <narvik86> jordan tried with http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide ?
[02:24] <jordan> narvik86 I'm trieing now :)
[02:24] <narvik86> ok :)
[02:25] <jordan> jordan@jordan:~$ sudo aticonfig --initial Found fglrx primary device section Nothing to do, terminating.
[02:25] <narvik86> jordan did you remove previous driver?
[02:26] <jordan> ehh no so remove all and reinstal  ?
[02:26] <narvik86> remove and itnstall those
[02:26] <jordan> how to fast remove all ?
[02:27] <narvik86> it depend how it was installed
[02:27] <narvik86> apt-get remove maybe, i'm not expert :/
[02:27] <jordan> give you link but this is pl ?
[02:27] <bugoy> how can i make kubuntu show the lan connection status on the taskbas just like on windows ?
[02:28] <narvik86> bugoy knemo
[02:28] <narvik86> jordan what is pl ?
[02:28] <jordan> poland ;)
[02:28] <jordan> poland site
[02:28] <narvik86> yes, what link? :)
[02:29] <jordan> http://forum.ubuntu.pl/viewtopic.php?t=6183
[02:30] <narvik86> jordan ,are you from poland?
[02:30] <jordan> so change xorg.conf - ati next use apt-get remove ?
[02:30] <jordan> yes im from poland :)
[02:30] <narvik86> ja tez :)
[02:31] <jordan> chodz na prv
[02:31] <narvik86> ok
 bugoy knemo <-- whwre is this ?
[02:31] <jordan> [505]  Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[02:31] <nanotube> ja tez:-)
[02:32] <narvik86> knemo, show you mine sources.list?
[02:32] <jordan> musze sie zarejestrowac zeby uzywac prv ?
[02:32] <narvik86> bugoy ?
[02:32] <narvik86> jordan tak
[02:32] <bugoy> wha tdo you mean ?
[02:32] <shadeofgrey> does anybody know how to change the background and foreground and font colors in Kword?
[02:32] <narvik86> nanotube jest nas coraz wiecej :)
[02:33] <narvik86> bugoy you need to install knemo
[02:33] <nanotube> narvik86: I just understad polish but can not write:-)
[02:33] <narvik86> nanotube where r u from?
[02:34] <nanotube> narvik86: slovakia... my girlfriend is polish:-)
[02:34] <narvik86> nanotube, it's not so far :)
[02:34] <nanotube> dzieky bardzo :-)
[02:35] <nanotube> no it is not:-) however we aro not in europe at the moment:-)
[02:36] <narvik86> nanotube, holidays? in what language you are talking?
[02:36] <nanotube> this is fantasctic: The following NEW packages will be installed: ifrename , The following packages will be REMOVED: hal lvm-common lvm2 mdadm pcmciautils ubuntu-base ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-standard udev .. what is it?
[02:37] <jordan> narvik86 gdzie mam sie rejestrowac nie rozumiem :/
[02:37] <jordan> nie uzywam IRC wogle
[02:37] <nanotube> narvik86: yep 5 years holiday:-) trying to write somethink in polish:-))
[02:37] <nanotube> jordan: tak
[02:38] <stephen> can any tell me if there is an irc channel for compiz
[02:38] <nanotube> jordan: what are you using?
[02:38] <nysosym> is it possible to have preview in konqueror of movie files?
[02:38] <narvik86> jordan, napisz cos fo mnie na prv, tam ci sie komenda pokaze
[02:38] <Jucato> nysosym: yes
[02:38] <shadeofgrey> does anybody in here know how to changfe the colors of kword
[02:38] <shadeofgrey> ?
[02:38] <jordan>  Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[02:38] <Jucato> right-click preview in....
[02:39] <jordan> takie cos mam :/
[02:39] <nanotube> stephen: join #compiz
[02:40] <nysosym> Jucato: sure, but i mean a miniatur of every movie in konqueror
[02:40] <stephen> cheers nanotube
[02:40] <nanotube> stephen: there are just 2 members , but it exists :-)
[02:40] <Jucato> nysosym: oh... I've never gotten video to work, but I do hear the sounds of the movie when I place my mouse over the video file
[02:41] <jordan> narvik86 nom oki
[02:42] <jordan> ZRIOBIONE ALE dalej nie moge pisac
[02:42] <narvik86> nanotube: what do u mean "5 years holidays", you are living together?
[02:42] <nanotube> jordan: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[02:43] <nanotube> narvik86: not 5 years we are together for 2 years.. we meeet in AUS
[02:43] <slow-motion> re
[02:44] <jordan> narvik86 jordan juz zarejestrowany pisze wiec jakie zarejestrowac np jordan_ albo jordan88 ?
[02:45] <narvik86> to Twoj nick, sam wybierz ;)
[02:45] <nanotube> jordan: :-)
[02:46] <jordan> narvik86 to jakies pojebane :)
[02:46] <jordan> dobra powiedz mi jak z tymi sterami
[02:46] <jordan> co mam zrobic
[02:47] <jordan> how to change nick ?:)
[02:47] <bgrimm> Does anyone have any links to a NEC LCD Driver that might work for the Multisync 90GX (I did not find one in the deault install, and nothing on the forums).
[02:48] <dr_willis> whats the max res for that lcd?
[02:50] <nanotube> is anyone here running vmware-player? how do I make it use my ra0 instead of eth0?
[02:51] <bgrimm> dr_willis: native res is 1280 x 1040
[02:54] <dr_willis> hmm.. ya sould be ble to select generic lcd and that res then.
[02:55] <digibre4k_> i have problem with send a email?
[02:55] <digibre4k_> do you can help me?
[02:55] <nanotube> narvik86: Ok... see you dude..I'm going to sleep:-)
[02:55] <digibre4k_> somebody please help me?
[02:55] <narvik86> what time?
[02:55] <narvik86> ok good night
[02:55] <dr_willis> ya could start by clarifying the problem.  digibre4k_  - but i doubt if i can help much at all.
[02:56] <nanotube> narvik86: 23.00:-)
[02:56] <digibre4k_> if i send a email it's take much..much..much...time...why?
[02:56] <narvik86> nanotube so good night :)
[02:57] <dr_willis> digibre4k_,  try a different email program.
[02:57] <nanotube> narvik86: :-) thanks... g'day to you!
[02:58] <digibre4k_> hey...hey...hey..don't go!
[02:58] <digibre4k_> i still have problem send email here...
[02:59] <dr_willis> 0_o
[03:01] <narvik86> change email client :) that was a solution
[03:02] <jordan_88> dr_willis how to recover xorg.conf from backup
[03:02] <jordan_88> ?
[03:02] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[03:03] <dr_willis> jordan_88,  cp /path/to/backup  /path/to/originak/xorg.conf
[03:03] <cwraig> ey
[03:03] <BenBB> hello
[03:04] <jordan_88> orginak = orginal ?
[03:04] <BenBB> I can't get the package updates for kubuntu, isp problem?
[03:04] <BenBB> the respritories i mean
[03:04] <dr_willis> they have been sluggish lately
[03:05] <BenBB> sorry i'm a noob with linux
[03:05] <BenBB> all the connections just time out
[03:05] <cwraig> try antoerh mirror'
[03:05] <BenBB> where do i go to find a list of mirrors?
[03:05] <cwraig> !mirror
[03:05] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[03:06] <digibre4k_> change email client?can you explane again!
[03:06] <digibre4k_> please give me a examples!
[03:06] <narvik86> use other program, if you are using client, in example Thunderbird try kmail
[03:07] <dnipro> Salut
[03:07] <narvik86> hi
[03:07] <dnipro> oup it is english room
[03:07] <dnipro> I lost my control panel
[03:07] <dnipro> kicker ?
[03:07] <dr_willis> jordan_88,  wherever ya copied the origianl to.
[03:07] <BenBB> Thanks guys, i have been having problems with my shit isp, not connecting to websties, i have to reload like 5 times
[03:07] <digibre4k_> soy my english is bad :(
[03:07] <dnipro> No menu, and nothing on my desktop
[03:08] <dnipro> How to recover it ?
[03:08] <cwraig> thats ok good luck
[03:08] <digibre4k_> sory my english is bad :(
[03:08] <BenBB> I should have a bitch at them, might be a dns problem i think
[03:08] <dr_willis> digibre4k_,  fire up an alternative email client and see if the same problems exists with those.
[03:08] <cwraig> yea i guess so
[03:08] <dnipro> I lost my menu !!!!
[03:08] <visik7> !kernel
[03:08] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[03:08] <cwraig> cause if they fucked up their routing it would be a huge prob
[03:08] <digibre4k_> how make send email more fast?
[03:09] <digibre4k_> on kubuntuk
[03:09] <dnipro> hello ?
[03:09] <dnipro> y a quelqu'un ?
[03:09] <narvik86> dnipro have you restarted x system?
[03:09] <dnipro> ia kekkin
[03:09] <cwraig> digibr4k> how fast is your net connection
[03:09] <dnipro> no only the session
[03:09] <ken_fallon> dnipro: Are you running kopete ?
[03:09] <dnipro> no
[03:10] <dnipro> I am running konversation at the moment
[03:10] <dnipro> I tryed to install new theme but it is better to have default one than nothing
[03:10] <cwraig> digibre4k> maybe this will help http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/08/02/local-dns-cache-for-faster-browsing/
[03:10] <dr_willis> digibre4k_,  you need to trouble shoot to find out why its slow.  If its just slow with One email client, bit not others. then its a client problem. If they all are slow. then you got some other problem.
[03:11] <dnipro> what is kicker ?
[03:11] <ken_fallon> dnipro: Consider switching back to the old theme
[03:11] <dr_willis> kicker is the name of the KDE panel.
[03:11] <cwraig> !kicker
[03:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about kicker - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:11] <BenBB> open source animation programs?? Can i get a free version of macromedia's flash
[03:11] <dnipro> I tryed but I have the old theme but no menu
[03:11] <dnipro> no task bar
[03:11] <narvik86> flas player - yes
[03:12] <BenBB> For creating them not playing them
[03:12] <dnipro> I never expect loos such thing
[03:12] <cwraig> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[03:12] <dnipro> now I use gnome
[03:12] <BenBB> I know there is some ability in SVG
[03:12] <dnipro> shall I uninstall and reinstall kicker ?
[03:12] <BenBB> ok, what i meant is flashmx, or flash8 so i can animate
[03:14] <narvik86> http://f4l.sourceforge.net/
[03:14] <narvik86> BenBB http://f4l.sourceforge.net/
[03:14] <dnipro> I lost that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kicker_%28KDE%29
[03:16] <narvik86> maybe, sudo apt-get install kicker  ? i don't know :/
[03:17] <dr_willis> kicker should be part of the kde base packages I would guess.
[03:17] <narvik86> there is:"kicker" in repositories
[03:17] <BenBB> thats awsome, i didn't know you could have flash on linux. Might have to try it at school since we are open source focused
[03:17] <ken_fallon> try dpkg-reconfigure kicker
[03:18] <narvik86> BenBB ther is another one but i don tremeber its name
[03:18] <dnipro> OK I 'll try first I try to reinstall it : uninstall will uninstall lot of packages !!
[03:19] <prabhu> hello all
[03:20] <jordan_88> narvik86 nie dziala :/
[03:20] <dnipro_> Hello again I found my control panel again : I reinstall kicker
[03:21] <narvik86> musi dzialac
[03:21] <dnipro_> thank you all of you
[03:21] <jordan_88> dziala dziala :)
[03:21] <dnipro_> Now I will not try to install new theme with bash install
[03:32] <bugoy> ok now all the updates are done
[03:32] <bugoy> what do i do next ?
[03:32] <bugoy> how do i install the nvidia driver here on kubuntu ?
[03:33] <ccc_> !nvidia
[03:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:33] <bugoy> i can't understand that lol
[03:33] <bugoy> can someon give me a step by step ?
[03:33] <Jucato> bugoy: how about the one I linked to
[03:33] <dr_willis> whats not to understand? its about 4 lines you cut/paste
[03:34] <dr_willis> and perhaps a simple edit of 'nv' to 'nvidia'
 bugoy: how about the one I linked to <-- what do you mean ?
[03:34] <ccc_> that is a step by step...
[03:34] <amic> http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper
[03:34] <ben_> I can't get my updates working, i use "sudo apt-get update" in konsole and get time-outs, click fetch updates in adept and get an error. WTF?!?
[03:34] <dr_willis> amic,  now THAT one is more complex. :P
[03:34] <dr_willis> ben_,  server issues perhaps
[03:34] <ben_> I have tried drifferent mirrors
[03:35] <ben_> yea it never got the security updates on install
[03:35] <jordan_88> lib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:35] <jordan_88> direct rendering: No
[03:35] <jordan_88> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[03:35] <jordan_88> what's problem ;/ /
[03:36] <Jucato> I just realized that the guide for Binary Nvidia only has instructions for Ubuntu....
[03:36] <dr_willis> install synaptic, and poof there ya go. :P works with jubuntu
[03:36] <dr_willis> Kubuntu
[03:36] <ben_> Well hopfully i will get these updates fixed and be able to install proper software like opera :)
[03:36] <Jucato> dr_willis: of course, but wouldn't it be nice if they actually had a Kubuntu guide?
[03:37] <jordan_88> dr_willis extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0" can you help me /
[03:37] <jordan_88> ?
[03:37] <dr_willis> Jucato,  would of been Nicer if they just used the shell. then it wouldent matter. :P
[03:37] <narvik86> the bad is Mesa!
[03:37] <narvik86> and direct rendering should be yes
[03:37] <dr_willis> 'fire up the manager and search....' vs.. 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx'   :)
[03:38] <dr_willis> they need to organize that howto a little better
[03:38] <prabhu> my java doesnt seem to be working in any of my browsers.. what do I do..?
[03:38] <Jucato> dr_willis: of course, but not everyone wants to use the command line always, right?
[03:38] <ben_> as a windows user i find the command lines a pain in the ass
[03:39] <dr_willis> Jucato,  vs the confuising directions they got.. its much simpilier and to the point
[03:39] <bugoy> in th ekonsole
[03:39] <dr_willis> its a pain to cut/paste... wow.. :P vs  being told how to manipulate a gui. :P
[03:39] <bugoy> why does when i am promped to enter my password
[03:39] <bugoy> i cannot type anything
[03:39] <dr_willis> 'clck over therem then over here.. then find this menu item that may or may not been moved...'
[03:39] <dr_willis> :)
[03:39] <ben_> I want to get off this windows micro$hit stuff :)
[03:40] <Jucato> dr_willis: but that's how some people are used to do stuff
[03:40] <bugoy> agter typpping this sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[03:40] <dr_willis> Jucato,  MS-Lemming-Zomvies!  :P
[03:40] <prabhu> ! java
[03:40] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[03:40] <ben_> I am going to bed all, goodnight
[03:40] <Jucato> well, we can't exclude them from our "target" audience right?
[03:40] <narvik86> gn8
[03:40] <Jack1> hi
[03:41] <Jack1> how can i increae font size of webpages in opera AND store that??
[03:41] <Jack1> increase
[03:41] <dr_willis> You Educate them.. Im sick of this "bend over backwards for total-beginners that dont want to learn, then  have them yell "do a blackflip to boot!"  and then they get mad if you dont hand hold them.
[03:41] <dr_willis> :P
[03:41] <dr_willis> and yes that  NVIDIA howto needs work.
[03:41] <Jack1> until now i only used view->zoom
[03:41] <dr_willis> its rather vague and  odd in ways.
[03:41] <Jack1> cant find in the prefs
[03:44] <bugoy> now i'm intsalling nvidia drivers
[03:45] <bugoy>  how do i know now after install if the driver is really installed ?
[03:45] <bugoy> wheres the computer managaement ogf kubuntu ?
[03:45] <dr_willis> when you restart X - you see a nvidia logi
[03:45] <dr_willis> Logo
[03:45] <Jucato> dr_willis: unless he installed linux-restricted-modules, I don't think he's going to be happy...
[03:48] <dr_willis> Well the howto says to do that. :P
[03:49] <dr_willis> which is why we are back to the 'they need to show the shell commands, so you can install them from the console' :)
[03:49] <bugoy> ok i'll be right back
[03:49] <bugoy> will restart now
[03:49] <bugoy> thanks
[03:49] <Jucato> gud luck...
[03:49] <Jucato> dr_willis: or they could also provide documentation for Kubuntu, too
[03:50] <dr_willis> which would have the same problem. :P
[03:50] <dr_willis> repkace the word synaptic with adept. :P there ya go.
[03:50] <Jucato> dr_willis: except that Adept has a different interface than Synaptic
[03:51] <dr_willis> considering how many times people get referred to that URL. ya think they would have it done a little better
[03:51] <Jucato> and installing Synaptic in Kubuntu adds another level of unnecessary complication
[03:51] <dr_willis> Step #1   sudo apt-get install synaptic
[03:51] <dr_willis> #2 - continue below. :P
[03:51] <dr_willis> I perfer synaptic to adept myself.
[03:52] <Jucato> I prefer synaptic, too. But I doubt the Kubuntu devs would want that. :-D
[03:52] <dr_willis> and  i perfer the apt-get or apatitude
[03:52] <Jucato> I vote for aptitude
[03:52] <dr_willis> who wrote adept anyway? :P the ubuntu guys or the offical kde guys?
[03:53] <slow-eating> re
[03:53] <player_> ok
[03:53] <Jucato> Petr Rockai. He's a KDE dev, but so far, Adept has only been included "officially" in Kubuntu
[03:53] <player_> i dont see any nvidia icon
[03:53] <Jucato> so I'm guessing he's a Kubuntu dev?
[03:53] <player_> but the installation says its done
[03:53] <player_> is there any way i can see if its installed or not ?
[03:53] <Jucato> player_: not an nvidia icon, but a sort of very short NVIDIA splash screen
[03:53] <bugoy> ok i didm't see that
[03:54] <Jucato> bugoy: type this in Konsole: glxgears
[03:54] <bugoy> is there any other way to know ?
[03:54] <dr_willis> what kind of monitor?
[03:54] <dr_willis> some times the logo flashes real fast.
[03:54] <narvik86> glxinfo | grep direct but i'm ati user
[03:54] <dr_willis> and you dont see it.
[03:54] <bugoy> this is what is says
[03:54] <bugoy> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:54] <bugoy> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[03:54] <Jucato> hmm...
[03:55] <bugoy> does that mean it is not installed ?
[03:55] <dr_willis> could mean theres some glx issue.
[03:55] <dr_willis> You did edit the xorg.conf file?
[03:55] <Dromen> does anyone know whether ajunta supports stepping through the code and if not an ide which does?
[03:56] <debankur> How to configure locales in kubuntu dapper.
[03:56] <bugoy> ok now how do i install firefox
[03:56] <debankur> it seems that sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales is not able to reconfigure it
[03:56] <Dromen> bugoy:
[03:56] <Dromen> sudo apt-get firefox
[03:56] <debankur> bugoy : sudo apt-get install firefox
[03:57] <Dromen> ah
[03:57] <Dromen> what debankur said ;)
[03:58] <debankur> can someone help me to configure the locales ?
[04:04] <narvik86> debankur maybe try "sudo apt-cache search kde locale" and look for yours
[04:05] <debankur> I tried to reinstall locales but that doesn't help .
[04:07] <narvik86> debankur sorry, i don't know how to help You :(
[04:07] <debankur> narvik86 : that OK . :)
[04:08] <bugoy> now that firefox is installed ? how do i run it ?
[04:08] <djclue917> firefox
[04:09] <narvik86> debankur did you choose you language in system settings-> regionality
[04:09] <asimon> debankur: I guess qt-language-selector is not what you're searching for?
[04:09] <djclue917> bugoy: run kbuildsycoca to "refresh" menus
[04:09] <berkes> does anyone here know a nifty way to split files into chunkos of x (700) MB? I need to find a way to get my backups on several CDroms easier.
[04:09] <debankur> yes.
[04:10] <djclue917> bugoy: then you'll see Firefox in K Menu -> Internet
[04:11] <Jucato> Is this a Kubuntu-only bug that the K Menu isn't refreshed automatically when something new is installed?
[04:11] <bugoy> woahh cool!
[04:12] <byrot> some programs are refreshed automatically, but firefox isn't
[04:12] <djclue917> Jucato: that's actually the problem now. and i don't know when it started happenning.
[04:12] <asimon> berkes: The command line tool 'split' can do that. i.e. something like 'split -b 700M myfile prefixfor_splittedfiles'. To put them together 'cat prefix_forsplittedfiles* > mywholefile'
[04:12] <Jucato> firefox isn't the only one. a lot of other programs don't automatically show up in K Menu
[04:12] <Jucato> djclue917: AFAIK, it has been like that since Breezy.
[04:12] <djclue917> Jucato: in Hoary, the menu refreshes automatically.
[04:13] <seikon> unglaublich
[04:13] <Jucato> djclue917: they do? always?
[04:13] <djclue917> Jucato: yeah, i think so too.
[04:13] <berkes> asimon: sounds cool.
[04:13] <bugoy> what yahoo messenger should i downlaod ?
[04:13] <djclue917> Jucato: well, as far as I can remember. It's been like over a year now.
[04:13] <Jucato> bugoy: you can use Kopete
[04:13] <berkes> asimon: any idea if there is a frontend for that too? maybe even for k3b?
[04:13] <djclue917> bugoy: YM for Linux is so out-of-date
[04:14] <Jucato> Kopete can handle YM, MSN, IRC (but use Konversation instead...), etc.
[04:14] <bugoy> what is kopete ?
[04:14] <djclue917> bugoy: multi-protocol internet messenger
[04:14] <Jucato> KDE's Instant Messenger client
[04:14] <bugoy> ahh ok
[04:14] <Jucato> asimon: asimon from Ubuntuforums?
[04:14] <bugoy> i saw it
[04:14] <djclue917> bugoy: it's like YM, but of course, much much better. ;-)
[04:14] <asimon> berkes: quite possible, but I don't know one.
[04:14] <asimon> Jucato: yes
[04:14] <debankur> asimon: I can't fing the package qt-language-selector
[04:15] <Jucato> cool! Fenyx from Ubuntuforums here...
[04:16] <asimon> debankur: the package is called 'language-selector-qt' but the binary is named 'qt-language-selector'
[04:17] <narvik86> berkes Krusader has got split files option
[04:17] <bugoy> whats the command to run the yahoo messenger setup ?
[04:17] <djclue917> bugoy: what do you mean?
[04:17] <bugoy> and how do you know the command to run an installation ?
[04:17] <bugoy> i have downloaded the setup file of YM .rpm
[04:18] <bugoy> how do iu run it
[04:18] <djclue917> bugoy: You should've downloaded the *.deb
[04:18] <djclue917> bugoy: RPMs are for RPM-based distros like Fedora, Red Hat, SUSE, etc.
[04:19] <bugoy> ok
[04:19] <bugoy> got it now
[04:19] <djclue917> bugoy: You should've downloaded this: http://download.yahoo.com/dl/unix/ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb
[04:19] <bugoy> yeah got it sir
[04:19] <vikke> hello, I was wondering if there is any more package than build-essentials i need to compile?
[04:19] <djclue917> bugoy: ok.
[04:20] <djclue917> vikke: compile what?
[04:20] <bugoy> how do i log in as root now /
[04:20] <bugoy> ?
[04:20] <vikke> djclue917: right now i was going to compile dekorator
[04:20] <djclue917> bugoy: you don't need to. you can use "sudo"
[04:21] <djclue917> bugoy: sudo dpkg -i ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb
[04:21] <djclue917> vikke: you need the kde devel packages. just search those in adept since i'm not sure about the package name.
[04:22] <bugoy> how do you guys know what commands to use.. lol
[04:22] <djclue917> vikke: and the qt3 devel packages.
[04:22] <djclue917> bugoy: uhm, we asked them too? :)
[04:22] <bugoy> lol
[04:22] <vikke> djclue917: oki, thanks
[04:23] <djclue917> bugoy: when we were still noobs of course.
[04:23] <djclue917> bugoy: you're from the Philippines right? :)
[04:23] <asimon> vikke: dekorator is some kde thingie, right? In that case you almost certainly also need kdelibs4-dev, which are the development files for the kde libraries.
[04:23] <bugoy> whats the command again to refresh the kMenu ?
[04:23] <bugoy> yes i am
[04:23] <bugoy> how did you knew ?
[04:24] <djclue917> bugoy: kbuildsycoca
[04:24] <bugoy> was it because of my ip ?
[04:24] <djclue917> bugoy: I did a whois lookup on your IP address. :D
[04:24] <Jucato> lol!
[04:24] <bugoy> lol
[04:24] <vikke> asimon: ah righth, seems like i missed alot :P, thanks
[04:24] <bugoy> you guys are fun to chat w/
[04:24] <djclue917> bugoy: I'm from the Philippines too BTW... :)
[04:24] <Jucato> that's why your nick sounds familiar (kabayan!!)
[04:25] <bugoy> o wish i can meet you guys someday
[04:25] <bugoy> lol
[04:25] <Jucato> djclue917 and bugoy: bakt wala kayo sa #ubuntu-ph?!?!
[04:25] <Jucato> :-D
[04:25] <asimon> vikke: If something is still missing, you'll get some error message during the build process, which should show what is missing.
[04:25] <bugoy> lol
[04:25] <bugoy> mga pinoy pala kayo
[04:25] <bugoy> hahaha
[04:25] <bugoy> asl jucato ?
[04:25] <Jucato> I wish they updated the dekorator package in the repositories... or at least in backports
[04:26] <djclue917> Jucato: wala e. haha di ako tumatambay doon. anyways, back to topic. :)
[04:26] <Jucato> err no asl's here. :-p
[04:26] <bugoy> lol
[04:26] <djclue917> Jucato: AFAIK, backports still haven't released any packages.
[04:27] <Jucato> djclue917: well, considering it's only been 2 months...
[04:27] <bugoy> pano ko nama npo install yung flash plyer ?
[04:27] <Jucato> er bugoy, you'd probably get more answers in English :-p
[04:27] <bugoy> lol
[04:28] <bugoy> how do i install flash player now ?
[04:28] <edisav> guys, i noticed that firefox 1.5.0.6 was released yesterday, but adept doesn't show it. Do you know when this will be available?
[04:28] <Jucato> It was only released yesterday? give 1-2 days more
[04:28] <Jucato> :-D
[04:28] <djclue917> edisav: that's because it will take time before Ubuntu-security releases it
[04:28] <bugoy> hmmm
[04:28] <bugoy> i just installed tha tright now ?
[04:28] <djclue917> bugoy: wait a sec.
[04:28] <djclue917> :)
[04:29] <bugoy> firefox 1.5.0.6
[04:29] <edisav> yes, i understand that. I'm new to kubuntu and wanted to have an idea how long it takes for the team to release the new package
[04:30] <djclue917> bugoy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[04:30] <Jucato> edisav: depends on how fast they can work on it
[04:30] <narvik86> did you get it to: about:kitchensink or this is extension which i have? type it in firefox
[04:30] <djclue917> bugoy: you'll learn a lot in reading that. :)
[04:30] <Jucato> djclue917: I also recommend starting to read those kind of help/guide
[04:31] <Jucato> :-D
[04:31] <Eeyore> just make sure you get enough b12 and protien via beans, lentils, etc on vegan
[04:31] <djclue917> bugoy and edisav: I suggest you read the Kubuntu documentation.
[04:32] <bugoy> lol ok but no time for that because of work lol
[04:32] <bugoy> i wish i coul
[04:32] <bugoy> d
[04:32] <bugoy> just trying this out
[04:32] <djclue917> bugoy: oh ok. haha
[04:32] <Jucato> bugoy: but sometimes it's just easier following the instructions there, instead of waiting for answers here
[04:32] <Jucato> sometimes...
[04:33] <Jucato> you could also save the page for offline viewing
[04:33] <bugoy> i get your point
[04:33] <djclue917> Yeah I agree with Jucato. :)
[04:33] <bugoy> thanks for the help by the way
[04:33] <Jucato> I've never realized how confusing it is on an IRC support channel... @_@
[04:34] <cwraig> join /#irc
[04:34] <djclue917> yeah.. considering the number of people simultaneously chatting.
[04:37] <Surger> My kubuntu dist-upgrade has broken. I tried "apt-get dist-upgade" then "apt-get -f install" and neither work.
[04:37] <nrdb> does anyone know if ubuntu supports any large format scanners (e.g. A3)?
[04:38] <djclue917> Surger: dist-upgrade from Breezy to Dapper?
[04:38] <Surger> djclue917, Yes
[04:39] <Surger> I'm now sitting with 601 packages not installed and a broken system.
[04:39] <djclue917> Surger: have you installed any custom packages? like newer versions of a certain KDE apps?
[04:39] <Surger> Nope
[04:39] <Surger> It crashes on some Open Scene Graph package
[04:40] <Surger> Two packages have the same file and it bombs apt-get out.
[04:40] <djclue917> Surger: you might wanna remove the "problematic packages" manually and then re-install using the updated packages.
[04:40] <Surger> Ok. apt-get -r   ?
[04:41] <asimon> Surger: before trying something else I would try 'sudo aptitude -f dist-upgrade', sometimes aptitude handles updates issues which apt-get fails to handle.
[04:41] <djclue917> Surger: whatever it takes. :D
[04:41] <Surger> Ok. aptitude is a console app?
[04:41] <asimon> Surger: Yes
[04:42] <Surger> Ok great - because I can't get into KDE and half the daemons won't run. :)
[04:42] <djclue917> nrdb: what particular scanner? brand name?
[04:42] <Surger> bbl (hopefully) :)
[04:43] <nrdb> djclue917: any I am looking at availability I have purchased anything yet.
[04:45] <XVampireX> Hi
[04:45] <XVampireX> [16:45]  <XVampireX> I have a bug too
[04:45] <XVampireX> [16:45]  <XVampireX> But it's related to the right click menu
[04:45] <XVampireX> [16:45]  <XVampireX> It won't open immediately, I have to click multiple times on a file/folder/etc...
[04:45] <djclue917> nrdb: well i'm not really sure about scanners.. sorry.
[04:45] <XVampireX> Just pasting from another channel what I wrote :P
[04:45] <nrdb> djclue917: ok.
[04:45] <yml> hello, I have just formated the windows' partition of my laptop and I would like to know there is a tool to mount it automatically at startup
[04:45] <XVampireX> Need help with that
[04:46] <XVampireX> yml: ntfs?
[04:46] <XVampireX> !ntfs
[04:46] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[04:46] <luke_> hello, how can i set KDm back to default?
[04:46] <yml> or should I manualy go in fstab (if I remember well to define it by hand)
[04:46] <DevGet> Hi all! I have problem with my trash, it doesn't works, when I move files to it, the files come back to its orginal position agian
[04:46] <yml> Thank you ubotu
[04:47] <XVampireX> yml: right...
[04:47] <djclue917> yml: it's a bot. :)
[04:47] <asimon> nrdb: Maybe http://cdb.suse.de/ is of help. It's a database of hardware which is compatible with SUSE Linux, everything there should also be compativle with Ubuntu...
[04:47] <XVampireX> yml: Yeah, it's a bot, grr
[04:47] <yml> XVampire yes it it was ntfs
[04:47] <yml> very good that bot  :-)
[04:48] <djclue917> yml: you should thank XVampireX. :)
[04:48] <XVampireX> :P
[04:48] <nrdb> asimon: thanks i am looking at it now.
[04:49] <ubuntu> Hola
[04:49] <ubuntu> hay  alguien ??
[04:49] <XVampireX> Hola
[04:49] <ubuntu> pregunto  vamos
[04:49] <XVampireX> Hmm
[04:49] <ubuntu> necesito ayuda
[04:49] <XVampireX> Don't know language
[04:49] <djclue917> luke_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[04:49] <ubuntu> con el KUBUNTU
[04:49] <asimon> luke_: Try System Settings->Login Manager, there press "Administrator Mode". Then use the 'defaults' button in the lower left. Never tried it, but it sounds as if it would do what you want
[04:49] <ubuntu> ni idea  como va esto joer
[04:49] <ubuntu> que lio
[04:49] <XVampireX> portugese?
[04:50] <XVampireX> !languages
[04:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about languages - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:50] <djclue917> luke_: i think i've misunderstood your query. sorry. :)
[04:50] <ubuntu> no espaol
[04:50] <XVampireX> !es
[04:50] <ubuntu> yo soy espaol
[04:50] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:50] <ubuntu> ubunto-es
[04:51] <luke_> djclue917 no worries, thanks for helping tho =)
[04:51] <ubuntu> #ubuntu-es
[04:51] <luke_> asimon thanks =)
[04:52] <luke_> djclue917 actually thats what i wanted to do, thanks =)
[04:53] <djclue917> luke_: oh.. that's funny. haha
[04:53] <djclue917> luke_: i thought i've misunderstood what you said.
[04:53] <luke_> djclue917 nah i just didnt word it properly =/
[04:54] <damian_> !mimetype
[04:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about mimetype - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:56] <damian_> what's a mimetype
[04:57] <yml> XVampireX> I had a look to diskmounter but it seems that it is useful to mount windows or mac partition
[04:58] <XVampireX> yml: yeah
[04:58] <yml> XVampireX> This is not what I want to do I have formated my ntfs partition and replaced it by an ext2
[04:58] <XVampireX> So what do you want to do?
[04:58] <bugunu> hello, could anyone tell me if gam_server is installed by default in kubuntu 6.06 ? it seems kde and most depend on it, and it is using a lot of CPU time
[04:58] <yml> What I want to do is mount automatically my new ext2 partion
[04:59] <abattoir> damian_: from what i understand, it specifies what type/format a file is in; it exists as a header in a file, so for eg. text/html would mean its a html file
[04:59] <XVampireX> yml: just a sec
[04:59] <yml> again the bot
[04:59] <XVampireX> yml: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[05:00] <XVampireX> It's the same link
[05:00] <XVampireX> Just follow it
[05:00] <XVampireX> It does exactly what you want to do
[05:01] <yml> I am on it
[05:03] <yml> I have run the "diskmounter" but it does not have modified the fstab
[05:03] <Surger> Thanks whoever it was who helped me with the apt-get problem. At least I'm back into KDE now. :)
[05:03] <XVampireX> yml:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountNtfsOnBoot?highlight=%28mount%29
[05:04] <djclue917> hey Surger. everything's fine now?
[05:04] <Surger> Yeah thanks djclue917
[05:04] <yml> XVampireX> I do not have ntfs partition anymore my problem now is about mounting a ext2 partition
[05:04] <Surger> djclue917: Just have to sort out my nvidia drivers (custom kernel) but I know how to do that.
[05:05] <XVampireX> yml: huh, it should be mounted
[05:06] <XVampireX> !mount
[05:06] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[05:06] <yml> Now I have the feeling you understand my pb
[05:12] <yml> XVampireX> Yes this:  sudo mount /dev/hda2 /media/hda2 is working fine also it not adding the partition in media:/<someName>
[05:12] <XVampireX> hehe
[05:19] <Doodluv> i get this everytime i try and compile something:
[05:19] <Doodluv> hecking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp
[05:19] <Doodluv> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[05:21] <abattoir> Doodluv: do you have build-essential installed?
[05:21] <abattoir> !info build-essential
[05:21] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In repository main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[05:22] <Doodluv> hmm..ill check
[05:22] <Doodluv> do i dont, im installing now
[05:22] <Doodluv> *no
[05:22] <Doodluv> thanks everybody
[05:23] <abattoir> Doodluv: it works?
[05:23] <Doodluv> abattoir: well it got past the last
[05:23] <Doodluv> abattoir:  X... configure: error: Can't find X includes.
[05:24] <boldii> hi
[05:24] <abattoir> Doodluv: you'd need an x-devel package for that... wait i'll give the correct package name
[05:24] <boldii> I want to install the new 3.5.4 kde but something creates depencies on some gnome libs which I don't want. What can I do?
[05:24] <abattoir> boldii: on which gnome libs?
[05:25] <yml> does someone could explain me how "media:/" is working in konqueror? I do not understand How I can add a partition there?
[05:25] <Doodluv> abattoir: xorg-dev?
[05:26] <abattoir> !info xorg-dev
[05:26] <ubotu> xorg-dev: the X.Org development libraries. In repository main, is optional. Version 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 (dapper), package size 9 kB, installed size 36 kB
[05:26] <abattoir> Doodluv: yes...
[05:26] <Jucato> yml:  media:/ is just an easy way you could access partitions thathave already been created
[05:26] <Jucato> yml: you don't add partitions there.
[05:26] <Doodluv> abbattoir: im doin it now
[05:26] <jarle> yml: I think that new partitions (like usb-drives) are mounted under media: automatically...
[05:26] <abattoir> Doodluv: after this, you might be asked for qt-dev and for kde headers
[05:26] <Doodluv> heh
[05:26] <boldii> abattoir: gnome-mime-data libavahi-compat-libdnssd1 libavahi-glib1 libbonobo2-0 libbonobo2-common libgnome2-0 libgnome2-common libgnomevfs2-0 libgnomevfs2-common libgnomevfs2-extra
[05:27] <abattoir> Doodluv: make sure you have those installed too(if you are building a KDE package that is)
[05:27] <boldii> and some more of which I do not know if they are gnome-specific.
[05:27] <Jucato> media:/ allows you to view, browse, mount, unmount already existing partitions
[05:27] <Doodluv> abattoir: yup it is...
[05:27] <Doodluv> =] 
[05:27] <Jucato> boldii: do you have some GNOME apps installed? Like the GIMP?
[05:27] <boldii> Jucato: no.
[05:28] <Doodluv> abbattoir: what pkg is the kde headers?
[05:28] <Jucato> hmm
[05:29] <abattoir> boldii: i just tried gnome-mime-data... and libavahi-glib1... i have neither of those installed...
[05:29] <abattoir> boldii: i have 3.5.4, btw...
[05:29] <boldii> strange. dist-upgrade wants to install those.
[05:29] <boldii> abattoir: how can I find out which packages gives me these depencies?
[05:30] <abattoir> in fact there was an effort to remove certain gnome-ish(:P) dependencies
[05:30] <abattoir> boldii: hmm, there is a command... wait, i'll look it up
[05:32] <abattoir> boldii: maybe(as Jucato said) it is some other gnome app? rather than KDE 3.5.4 ?
[05:33] <Jucato> probably some app that has some GNOME dependencies: synaptic, gimp, etc...
[05:33] <yml> jucato, Jarle: I understand what you are explaining I am mounting my ext2 partition in /datastore but I would like to display it also in "media:/"
[05:33] <abattoir> but i have gimp though, and didnt need those packages
[05:33] <yml> I find it very convenient to access all the mounted partion from there
[05:33] <boldii> I looked through the list of apps which should be updated but I can't find anything that looks like gnome.
[05:34] <Jucato> i just said "maybe" :-D
[05:34] <Jucato> yml: if you have created a partition and a mount point for that partition, it will automatically be visible in media:/
[05:35] <Jucato> whether or not it is mounted.
[05:35] <yml> jucato: it is not automatically visible  in media:/
[05:35] <yml> jucato: my partition is mounted
[05:36] <Jucato> what version of KDE are you using right now?
[05:36] <boldii> 3.5.3
[05:36] <Jucato> yml: what version of KDE are you using right now?
[05:36] <boldii> oh, ok :D
[05:36] <Jucato> er sorry bout that boldii
[05:36] <yml> I am using kubuntu
[05:37] <yml> Jacoto : KDE release 3.5.4
[05:37] <boldii> abattoir: have you found the command?
[05:37] <abattoir> boldii: hmmm... maybe someone at #ubuntu might know about the command
[05:37] <boldii> ok, I will check that.
[05:37] <Jucato> yml: that's the problem. there's something wrong with media:/ in KDE 3.5.4
[05:38] <Jucato> yml: I'm also experiencing that same problem
[05:38] <yml> Jucato > This is a bad news
[05:39] <Jucato> yml: worse news: so far we seem to be the only ones experiencing this.
[05:39] <abattoir> Jucato: nope, i have that too, but it is not consistent
[05:39] <Jucato> ok, that makes us three
[05:40] <boldii> maybe I should'n upgrade to 3.5.4 :D
[05:40] <abattoir> Jucato: i sometimes see only 1 out of 4 mounted partitions, sometimes see all(like now)
[05:40] <abattoir> boldii: well, people have said there is a speed increase.. ;)
[05:40] <abattoir> Jucato: and someone else was complaining about it too...
[05:40] <yml> Jucato: it is very easy to reproduce
[05:40] <Jucato> boldii: and some bugfixes too
[05:41] <boldii> ok.
[05:41] <yml> jucato what I did is removing an existing windows partion and replaced it by an ext2
[05:41] <Jucato> yml: I didn't even do anything... :-D
[05:42] <Jucato> All my unmounted partitions don't show. Even when I mount them. But I can still access them through /media/hdXX
[05:42] <yml> what you are telling me is that konqueror is dynamically loading the partion list and display it in media:/
[05:43] <Jucato> well, in KDE 3.5.3 and earlier, media:/ will show you all your partitions, mounted or unmounted.
[05:43] <Jucato> it will also show you devices and CDs that you put in
[05:44] <Jucato> from there, you can right-click > Mount/Unmount/Eject/Safely Remove them. and their icons will change to reflect their status (mounted/unmounted)
[05:44] <yml> this is exactly what I like with it
[05:44] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: you here?
[05:44] <Jucato> well, there seems to be a problem with it in Kubuntu + KDE 3.5.4
[05:45] <yml> jacoto: does the mount point is important? or can mount them anywhere?
[05:45] <yml> do you have an idea where we could report that pb?
[05:45] <yml> bugtraker somewhere?
[05:45] <Jucato> you can mount them anywhere you like as long as there's a folder (mount point) for it. but most of the time, you just put all mount point in /media
[05:46] <Jucato> I hate having to report bugs... :-(
[05:46] <yml> ok my question is there a relation between "/media" and "media:/"
[05:46] <Jucato> well I'm not sure if it's a bug, if it's a Kubuntu-only bug, or if it's a general KDE bug...
[05:47] <Jucato> yml: direct relation? probably not
[05:47] <Jucato> yml: I think media:/ is more directly related to fstab than to /media
[05:48] <yml> Jucato: ok i understand
[05:49] <jontec> I want to package a bunch of shell commands into a program, any pointers on how to get started?
[05:50] <jott> i guess it has to do with "Make media:/ mount devices over HAL. Fixes bugs 50185, 105482, 108823, 114854, 120619, 121833 and 127788. See SVN commit 550578."
[05:50] <jott> so maybe its a hal issue of dapper.. (like access rights)
[05:51] <Jucato> jott: I guessed so, too.
[05:51] <Jucato> so it's a Dapper thing, huh...
[05:51] <boldii> I can't find something that really depends on these libs just a recommendation by launchpad-integration. really strange ...
[05:52] <Jucato> unfortunately, I can't test it on any other KDE distro, since I've got my drive full with Kubuntu and MEPIS @_@
[05:52] <jott> don't know... just a blind guess ... i think hal config is the key to this problems..
[05:52] <Jucato> jott: I remember that there was an almost similar problem before, where media:/ was completely empty...
[05:52] <Jucato>  hmm...
[05:53] <boldii> how can I prevent this launchpad-integration from being wanted to be installed? means how can I remove the depency?
[05:53] <BluesKaj> hmm, how do i get FF to open urls in the t-bird email prog instead of konq ?
[05:53] <boldii> (without building new packages)
[05:53] <jott> but i am not that into hal so i can't tell you what to do ;)
[05:54] <yml> jott: what is hal?
[05:54] <BluesKaj> I've looked everywhre to change the default browser settings but thsi situation has me puzzled
[05:54] <jott> yml: hardware abstraction layer
[05:54] <Jucato> hmm... I may have an idea..
[05:54] <Jucato> but I have to restart
[05:54] <matlec> hi
[05:55] <yml> ok Jucato
[05:55] <yml> let us know
[05:55] <Jucato> sure. I'll be back ASAP
[05:56] <jott> try "hal-device" it seems to dump out all the devices with some settings
[05:59] <vikke> hi, I was running a test, then the ALSA sound didnt pass, is that a big problem? what do i do to fix?
[06:00] <Philip5> yml: is it a usb drive you are having problem with ot just media in general?
[06:00] <agresor> checking tk build dir... using tk library in /usr/lib
[06:00] <agresor> ./configure: line 2972: /usr/lib/tkConfig.sh: No such file or directory
[06:00] <Philip5> vikke: check that you have your sound cards drivers loaded
[06:00] <agresor> guys.. i cant compile amsn 0.95
[06:00] <agresor> :(
[06:01] <yml> Philip5> no it is an ide hardisk
[06:01] <Philip5> yml: oh
[06:01] <agresor> what is this.. tk shits..:(
[06:02] <uniq> agresor: why do you want to compile it rather than install from archives?
[06:02] <agresor> it have an old amns
[06:02] <agresor> :)
[06:02] <agresor> not newest version
[06:02] <uniq> 0.95 is the newest right?
[06:02] <agresor> yes
[06:03] <vikke> philip5: where do i do that?
[06:04] <agresor> uniq,  any idea how to install it /
[06:04] <uniq> agresor: what version of kubuntu do you use? amsn 0.95 is in the dapper archives.
[06:05] <agresor> i use brezzy
[06:05] <uniq> agresor: ok. hang on..
[06:05] <Philip5> agresor: you need the tk dev package
[06:06] <lisi> hello, I have iPod 60 photo that is corectly mounted, but my amarok 1.4.1 dosent mount it.
[06:06] <agresor> Philip5,  what is exacly name of package to apt-get it
[06:06] <agresor> ?
[06:06] <jucato> didn't work
[06:07] <uniq> agresor: have you seen this? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=472411&postcount=1
[06:07] <jucato> I thought if I added the user to the haldaemon group...
[06:07] <agresor> apt-get install tk8.0-dev
[06:07] <agresor> ;] 
[06:07] <jott> jucato: http://www.redhat.com/magazine/003jan05/features/hal/ looks very interesting...
[06:07] <jott> (not really to solve your problem directly but to understand hal better ;) .. just started reading
[06:08] <jucato> I vaguely remember an issue before with KDE 3.5, where nothin except Floppy and CD's showed up in media:/
[06:08] <BluesKaj> !default browser
[06:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about default browser - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:08] <BluesKaj> hate that factoids site ...it sucks !
[06:09] <mioemi> hello people
[06:11] <BluesKaj> hi mioemi
[06:11] <jucato> strange... there's no more "hal" group in Kubuntu?
[06:11] <uniq> jucato: have there ever been?
[06:11] <mioemi> hello people
[06:12] <jucato> uniq: in Breezy :-D
[06:12] <mioemi> hi blue
[06:12] <boowen> Hi
[06:12] <narvik86> hi
[06:12] <boowen> Como instalo el Synapse
[06:13] <uniq> jucato: followed the hal user, i guess.. i actually have the user on one of my machines too. :) haven't reinstalled since hoary.
[06:13] <jucato> correction.. I meant hal user...
[06:13] <jucato> :-D
[06:13] <gnomefreak> !es
[06:13] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:14] <boowen> Gracias
[06:14] <uniq> jucato: still investigating the media:/ issue?
[06:15] <jucato> yeah
[06:15] <uniq> any answers so far?
[06:16] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: I am now
[06:16] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: i found it now but ty ;)
[06:16] <jucato> none...
[06:16] <jucato> :-(
[06:16] <jott> jucato: to trace down if its an hal issue do a "lshal | more" and search for your device to see if its properties are reasonable
[06:17] <gnomefreak> not unless you know an easy way to find cheap flights
[06:17] <gnomefreak> lol
[06:17] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: Expedia.com ?
[06:17] <jott> jucato: i guess something like "volume.fsusage='filesystem'" and thinks like that should be there..
[06:17] <jucato> quick question, what does the adm group do?
[06:18] <jott> sounds like ADMinistration ;)
[06:18] <uniq> jucato: allows you to administer stuff. :)
[06:18] <jucato> and what does the admin group do?
[06:18] <mioemi> has anybody used or now any application like autocad?
[06:18] <abattoir> mioemi: qcad
[06:18] <uniq> jucato: members are allowed to read spesific logs and such.
[06:19] <mioemi> abattoir, qcad right?
[06:19] <Jucato> ah ok. thanks
[06:19] <abattoir> yup
[06:19] <mioemi> how can i get it downloadded?
[06:19] <Jucato> ok, still clueless on the media:/ issue
[06:19] <jott> its in the repository
[06:19] <jott> if you want something "commercial" you could look at variocad ...
[06:20] <jott> Jucato: you looked at the lshal output?
[06:20] <abattoir> !info qcad
[06:20] <ubotu> qcad: A professional CAD System. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.0.4.0-1-2.1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2872 kB, installed size 12564 kB
[06:20] <Jucato> jott: wonder how I'm gonna interpret it...
[06:21] <jott> Jucato: you found your device entry thats not showing up in media:/ ?
[06:21] <abattoir> mioemi: if you have universe enabled, all you have to do is 'sudo apt-get install qcad' in a terminal, or install it using adept(or your preferred package manager)
[06:21] <mioemi> ok
[06:22] <Jucato> err...
[06:22] <mioemi> I will do just that now
[06:22] <Jucato> wait, it's a very long list...
[06:22] <abattoir> BluesKaj: you tried setting it through kcontrol?
[06:22] <jott> Jucato: do "lshal | less" and then /hda1 or something (/ to search)
[06:24] <kraut> moin
[06:24] <Jucato> reading...
[06:26] <yml> Jacoto:
[06:26] <yml> Are you there?
[06:26] <Jucato> yml: yeah
[06:26] <yml> I get it working
[06:26] <jott> whee whats it?
[06:26] <Jucato> nope
[06:27] <Jucato> I'm analyzing the log...
[06:27] <Jucato> it's driving me nucking futs!
[06:27] <yml> This is the pb i do not know exactly but I can tell you what I did
[06:27] <yml> open "system settings"
[06:28] <yml> go in "disk and filesystems"
[06:29] <hustla__> how can i schow the PID?
[06:29] <abattoir> !classroom
[06:29] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Classroom is a project which aims to tutor users about Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu through biweekly sessions in #ubuntu-classroom - For more information visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom
[06:29] <yml> administrator mode
[06:29] <jott> hustla__: pidof?
[06:29] <shadeofgrey> hey
[06:30] <shadeofgrey> how do i iuse te mouse to select multiplemessages        in kmail?
[06:30] <hustla__> prog ID
[06:30] <abattoir> The current topic for this session of the classroom is basic IRC usage.... interested persons can look up the wiki and join #ubuntu-classroom...
[06:30] <Jucato> shadeofgrey: Ctrl+Click?
[06:30] <yml> Jacoto then I have restarted my computer
[06:31] <shadeofgrey> yeahn but thats just one by one right?
[06:31] <shadeofgrey> i need to select like hundreds of messages at a time
[06:31] <jott> shadeofgrey: shift+click? ctrl+a?
[06:31] <Jucato> shadeofgrey: click on 1, then shift+click?
[06:32] <hustla__> i need to show the current running programms .. how can i do this?
[06:32] <Jucato> or if those hundreds of messages have some similar parts (sender, etc), you can type in the filter, then Ctrl+A
[06:32] <Jucato> hustla__: press Ctrl+Esc
[06:32] <hustla__> in the commandline
[06:32] <jott> hustla__: ps
[06:32] <hustla__> sry
[06:33] <Jucato> hustla__: "ps aux"
[06:33] <hustla__> ah .. thanx
[06:33] <jott> hustla__: man ps .. for options ps auxw will probably server well ;)
[06:33] <jott> serve
[06:33] <Jucato> I give up... I need to sleep...
[06:33] <Jucato> (midnight over here)
[06:34] <Jucato> this media:/ issue is annoying... :(
[06:35] <yml> jucato: did you try the recipe I gave you?
[06:35] <Jucato> yml: not yet...
[06:35] <Jucato> too sleepy... :-(
[06:35] <Jucato> gud night!!
[06:36] <yml> good night
[06:36] <zered> hi everybody
[06:36] <eshadow> hello
[06:36] <zered> for my culture, can we upgrade from kubuntu dapper to kubuntu edgy ?
[06:37] <zered> I have found a command to do that from ubuntu
[06:37] <Hawkwind> zered: You can, but it's risky
[06:37] <zered> Hawkwind: hi. Yes I know. My linuxbox it's a testbox
[06:37] <zered> Hawkwind: how can you do that from kubunut ?
[06:37] <Hawkwind> !upgrade
[06:37] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[06:38] <zered> Hawkwind: ypu mean i type "sudo upgrade" ?
[06:38] <Hawkwind> zered: Read the URL's and you can probably figure out how to do it from dapper to edgy
[06:39] <zered> Hawkwind: ok.
[06:40] <eshadow> I am new user of kubuntu 6.06. I just finished installation and have one question.
[06:41] <uniq> zered: i do not recommend upgrading to edgy at this time, especially not if you expect a usable system for day to day use. edgy is in development and will break.
[06:41] <Hawkwind> eshadow: Ask away
[06:41] <uniq> zered: i strongly recommend to wait until it's released.
[06:41] <eshadow> I want to install KNode so I do KMenu->Add/Remove Programs
[06:42] <zered> uniq: Hi. I understand this. It's a test box. If it's too ugly I'll reinstall all from DVD
[06:42] <eshadow> I found KNode there, but it is gray and I can not check the checkbox. Why it is grey?
[06:43] <abattoir> !info knode
[06:43] <ubotu> knode: KDE news reader. In repository universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 1176 kB, installed size 2916 kB
[06:43] <Hawkwind> eshadow: Have you enabled all of your sources like universe/multiverse ?
[06:43] <abattoir> eshadow: knode is in the 'universe' repository...
[06:43] <abattoir> eshadow: like Hawkwind said, make sure you have enabled it...
[06:43] <abattoir> !repos
[06:43] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:43] <eshadow> No i just enabled Main and Restricted.
[06:44] <abattoir> eshadow: enable universe and multiverse in the same way...
[06:44] <eshadow> I will change this. Thanks.
[06:44] <abattoir> eshadow: i.e, add 'universe multiverse' to the same line containing 'main restricted'
[06:45] <abattoir> eshadow: also make sure the distribution is 'dapper' rather than 'dapper-backports'
[06:45] <uniq> zered: ok, just giving the double warning so you don't break your primary desktop. good luck then :)
[06:46] <zered> uniq: Thanx for your advices ! I like test news. But I have another computer with stable OS !
[06:51] <zered> someone plays americas'army with kubuntu ?
[06:55] <boo> hi
[06:55] <narvik86> hi
[06:56] <eshadow> Ok, it is working now fine. Thanks for help.
[06:57] <narvik86> somebody plays nexuiz with kubuntu?
[06:59] <eshadow> I'am only curious why it is not in the main or restricted sources since it is defaul usenet reader for KDE?
[06:59] <binarykungfu> Anyone running using open vpn as a road warrior conection under kubuntu?
[07:09] <narvik86> ok so tell, what games you are playing with kubuntu?
[07:09] <muslim> HI all
[07:09] <narvik86> hi
[07:09] <muslim> i have big problem with kubuntu
[07:10] <zered> narvik86: Hi. I try to play america's army but I don't have sound
[07:11] <muslim> most programs such as Opera,Firefox etc. can not access Internet
[07:11] <muslim> can any help me
[07:11] <muslim> ?
[07:11] <narvik86> zered i actually can't play shooters, because i have broken left collarbone
[07:11] <zered> narvik86: sorry, what is collarbon ?
[07:12] <narvik86> zered bone in my left arm
[07:12] <muslim> most programs such as Opera,Firefox etc. can not access Internet!!!
[07:12] <narvik86> muslim did you install firewall ?
[07:12] <zered> narvik86: ok. ;-) I want try games on linux to erase my XP
[07:12] <muslim> no i did not
[07:13] <narvik86> muslim ping is working?
[07:13] <muslim> yes its working good
[07:13] <narvik86> zered ati user or nv?
[07:13] <narvik86> muslim email client is working? irc also right?
[07:13] <ccc_> zered: AA dropped their linux support for version 2.6, and there's not many 2.5 servers left. sadly.
[07:13] <muslim> i can access net from konquer
[07:14] <TheHighChild> Would anyone know why konqueor removed the addressbar?
[07:14] <muslim> yes working good also
[07:15] <TheHighChild> rather, what happened to it and how can I get it back? if anyone knows
[07:15] <abattoir> TheHighChild: upgraded to 3.5.4?
[07:15] <TheHighChild> yeah
[07:16] <TheHighChild> I  guess, I did a apt-get update
[07:16] <TheHighChild> nvm, I did add the repo for Dapper on this machine
[07:16] <abattoir> TheHighChild: ok, try deleting ~/.kde/share/config/konquerorrc and ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc
[07:16] <narvik86> try settings, configuration bars ( idont have english kde_
[07:16] <abattoir> TheHighChild: backup those files if you need them first
[07:16] <abattoir> TheHighChild: and also close konqueror before doing it...
[07:17] <zered> narvik86: ati user (perhaps a ill card...)
[07:17] <zered> ccc_: hi. Oh what a pity ! Do you know why ? Defense secretary is a friend of Gates ?
[07:17] <muslim> narvik86 Do you have any idea?
[07:17] <narvik86> zered, try warsow, tremulous, nexuiz(for me the best, but works bad with my ati)
[07:17] <narvik86> muslim, thinking
[07:18] <muslim> OK
[07:18] <ccc_> zered: possibly :) no, there was this single guy who did the porting win>linux, and it was too much work. they actually dropped support further back, and he couldn't keep up.
[07:18] <narvik86> muslim you can try to reinstall opera for example and check again
[07:18] <abattoir> zered: heh. am reminded of 'Southpark - Bigger, Longer and Uncut' :P
[07:19] <narvik86> muslim did you do any upgrades ?
[07:19] <muslim> no
[07:19] <narvik86> muslim when it's broke?
[07:20] <zered> narvik86: thanx I not this.
[07:20] <muslim> Apt-GET can not access net most of time
[07:20] <narvik86> muslim you have wlan?
[07:20] <muslim> so i can not update
[07:21] <zered> abattoir: sorry for my english. You speak about what ? ;-)
[07:21] <BluesKaj> How can I make FF my browser exclusively? ...konq launches when I click on a url in T-bird
[07:21] <muslim> what "wlan"?
[07:21] <zered> ccc_: ok. We change to UT2004
[07:21] <zered> or 2007
[07:21] <TheHighChild> thanks alot abattoir, that did the trick. Had to kill the preloader and whatnot. thanks a lot, I was freaking out
[07:21] <narvik86> muslim you have wifi card
[07:21] <muslim> no
[07:21] <abattoir> BluesKaj: i asked you if you tried setting it through Kcontrol...
[07:21] <abattoir> TheHighChild: cool :)
[07:21] <damian_> or 2007
[07:22] <narvik86> muslim are you in lan? or connectted by isp?
[07:22] <muslim> i am using Lan card to access net
[07:22] <BluesKaj> oh sorry ...I was awy for quite a while ...strong wind , minor emergency here so i missed you reply
[07:22] <muslim> Lan
[07:22] <narvik86> muslim dhcp?
[07:22] <BluesKaj> thx abattoir, i'll try that
[07:22] <abattoir> zered: its kinda offtopic, but Southpark is a popular american cartoon, and in its 'movie version', there is an incident involving a defence general and Bill Gates...
[07:23] <muslim> yes
[07:23] <abattoir> BluesKaj: Kcontrol->KDE Components->Default Applications(????)->Web Browser
[07:23] <narvik86> maybe try to restart eth, for other ip?
[07:23] <narvik86> brb
[07:24] <uniq> restart to get new ip?
[07:24] <uniq> that's overkill, isn't it?
[07:24] <zered> abattoir: ok, thanx for this american culture moment. We have southpark in France but I had'nt saw it
[07:25] <narvik86> restart ethernet connection
[07:25] <uniq> much betteR :)
[07:25] <Skrot> Hi. When trying to change my picture in kcontrol -> Security & Privacy -> Password & User Accound, kcontrol says "Your administrator has disallowed changing your image" -- how can I change that?
[07:25] <abattoir> zered: hehe, its from the movie :P ... and I drop out off this conv. before i'm kicked for being off-topic ;)
[07:26] <abattoir> *out of
[07:27] <aztun> hi
[07:27] <aztun> is there any kubuntu-security mailing list?
[07:28] <poningru> the devel list?
[07:28] <zered> I like this channel and I like ubuntu for this people
[07:28] <pyret> does anyone know where i can find audiocodecs for ubuntu?
[07:29] <aztun> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-security-announce
[07:29] <aztun> i found it
[07:29] <aztun> i should look for befere asking
[07:29] <abattoir> pyret: which format? which player? which version of ubuntu? :P
[07:30] <gatekeeper> pyret, as in amaroK, xine engine & libxine-extracodecs?
[07:30] <zered> perhaps getautomatix ?
[07:32] <pyret> i just installed ubuntu on my computer...but i have 6.06  LTS  and amaroK
[07:33] <aztun> pyret: install xine engine for amarok and all xine codecs
[07:33] <aztun> maybe u can also install automatix
[07:33] <aztun> to get extra codecs
[07:33] <gatekeeper> !libxine-extracodecs
[07:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about libxine-extracodecs - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:34] <pyret> ok thanks
[07:34] <abattoir> !info libxine-extracodecs
[07:34] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[07:35] <gatekeeper> pyret, don't use automatrix unless you are happy to spend time fixing things
[07:35] <abattoir> pyret: if you are new to linux, and installing its packages, you might find easyubuntu.... easy :)
[07:35] <abattoir> !easyubuntu
[07:35] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[07:37] <pyret> ok
[07:38] <narvik86> zered, you can try also Sauerbraten, Cube, true combat:elite and other :-)
[07:38] <BluesKaj> abattoir, I hve the default browser set as FF in KControl but Konq still launches from T-bird . There's no option to config email settings it in KControl
[07:38] <narvik86> you need to set default browser!
[07:39] <narvik86> i will find it wait
[07:39] <abattoir> BluesKaj: also, firefox does that default browser checking thing.... does it think that it is the default browser?
[07:39] <narvik86> or not, actually i don't have thunderbird :-)
[07:41] <abattoir> BluesKaj: the only other thing that i can think of is checking File Associations(the entry right below Default Applications)
[07:41] <gatekeeper> BluesKaj, google to the rescue :-) http://www.mozilla.org/projects/thunderbird/linuxurls.html
[07:42] <narvik86> i'm installing thundrbird
[07:43] <pyret> is kubuntu and ubuntu the same thing?
[07:43] <gplfighter> no
[07:43] <gplfighter> Kubuntu uses kde and ubuntu gnome
[07:43] <gatekeeper> pyret, yes just use different desktops
[07:43] <pyret> ok
[07:44] <gatekeeper> gplfighter, they are still the same linux distro
[07:44] <gplfighter> yes
[07:44] <gplfighter> i know
[07:44] <TheHighChild> abattoir: Hey man, I restarted my konq and it's back to being messed up, is there a long term solution?
[07:45] <abattoir> TheHighChild: i thought the problem was fixed... it only happens in the session when you upgrade....
[07:45] <abattoir> TheHighChild: hmmm, maybe k-d-s is doing something...
[07:45] <abattoir> TheHighChild: dapper?
[07:46] <abattoir> TheHighChild: or it could be different view profiles
[07:46] <TheHighChild> abattoir: Yeah, Dapper, up-to-date. I will restart x
[07:46] <abattoir> TheHighChild: which view profile are you using now?
[07:51] <TheHighChild> abattoir: sorry, someone stopped by, how do I check my 'view profile'? sorry,m I don't use konq much, just for fish and ftp
[07:51] <BluesKaj> bbl
[07:52] <TheHighChild> I have to step out for a bit, I'll be back. Thanks for all the help folks
[07:59] <gabrielu> hello
[08:00] <xjjk> hallo
[08:00] <gabrielu> e ai cume que esse trem funciona?
[08:01] <xjjk> I'm having this annoying problem: KDE does not save my mouse settings that I set kcontrol
[08:01] <xjjk> that is, it doesn't reapply them the next time I start X
[08:01] <gabrielu> I think u have to save it first
[08:01] <gabrielu> but I dont know how
[08:02] <xjjk> gabrielu: it's saved, and works for the current session
[08:02] <xjjk> but not after
[08:02] <gabrielu> dont know
[08:02] <xjjk> I can put stuff in my xorg.conf file
[08:02] <xjjk> and that works before starting KDE
[08:02] <xjjk> but as soon as KDE starts, it applies the (wrong) settings and my mouse is messed up again
[08:03] <gabrielu> have no idea
[08:04] <hhhjr> Can someone help me to find out if kubuntu, that I have installed is recogonizing my second CPU. As when I start the system I see abreif message about failinf to allocate a 64 bit adress
[08:04] <apeman2020> 865pe
[08:06] <|lostbyte|> hhhjr, Should show in dmesg.
[08:06] <|lostbyte|> do a grep CPU on it.
[08:06] <hhhjr> ok  I am a newbie can you explain a little more
[08:08] <hhhjr> under system information it states PentiumII copermine but it doesnt shaw 2
[08:08] <|lostbyte|> hhhjr, the command "dmesg" is a log of kernel calls and info about hardware when booting and later on.
[08:08] <|lostbyte|> hhhjr, SO .. dmesg | grep CPU
[08:08] <|lostbyte|> should show you your other CPU.
[08:08] <hhhjr> ok thanks
[08:09] <|lostbyte|> hhhjr, also i belive  you have to install a SMP kernel
[08:10] <uniq> hhhjr: you can also run 'cat /proc/cpuinfo|more' from konsole, that will show both your cpus.
[08:10] <drunkpikachu> does anyone happen to know about the website that lists practically all known wireless drivers?
[08:11] <abattoir> !wireless
[08:11] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:11] <vikke> hello, i got this problem just now so my resolution is very little, so where do i configure it?
[08:11] <drunkpikachu> thanks!
[08:11] <hhhjr> ok the second cpu is there but this is the message I get at startup maybe someone can help me understand what it means in laymens terms
[08:11] <hhhjr> PCI: Unable to handle 64-bit address for device 0000:00:0e.0
[08:12] <|lostbyte|> Should be in menu > system setting > Display
[08:12] <abattoir> vikke: if it is recognised by X, then run krandrtray->Click on the icon on the tray and choose your resolution
[08:12] <|lostbyte|> vikke, ^^
[08:12] <vikke> geez thanks! thats better!
[08:18] <rolando> hi
[08:18] <rolando> why is not possible anymore in kubuntu 6.06 to make groups in the k menu?
[08:19] <faisal> 44
[08:19] <rolando> for example, kmenu-internet and then i want to have  browsers,file transfers, chat,instant messaging, etc
[08:20] <apeman2020> Hello all
[08:20] <draik> rolando, you have Kubuntu 6.06?
[08:20] <apeman2020> does anyone have any experience with MERAK?
[08:20] <rolando> draik: tak= yes
[08:20] <faisal> what is MERAK
[08:20] <apeman2020> MAIL SERVER
[08:20] <apeman2020> www.merakmailserver.com
[08:21] <draik> Right-click on the K Menu and select Menu Edito
[08:21] <draik> *Menu Editor
[08:21] <draik> from there you can regroup what you would like under the various categories
[08:23] <eitch0000> which program would be best to convert m4b files to mp3 or anything other like ogg?
[08:24] <rolando> thanx draik i  will try that, but im not sure it will work
[08:24] <justjosh> well, here goes, I just installed kubuntu 5 and now I'm going for automatix
[08:24] <rolando> draik: because nothink will open
[08:24] <rolando> nothing
[08:25] <draik> nothing opens? How so?
[08:25] <rolando> i dont know
[08:25] <jott> what package contains the section 3 man pages for all the standard c functions?
[08:25] <rolando> is there a way to open that via command line?
[08:26] <draik> rolando, everything can open through command line :)
[08:26] <draik> Command Line is your friend
[08:27] <draik> what are you trying to open?
[08:27] <rolando> i try kmenu but its not a valid command
[08:27] <justjosh> so now automatix is installed, could anyone tell me how to run it?
[08:27] <draik> Click on K Menu. It's the bottom left button witht the big K on it
[08:28] <justjosh> aha! thanks draik
[08:28] <rolando> draik:i know, but you know what just happened?
[08:28] <justjosh> sorry, trying to kick my windows habit.
[08:28] <rolando> it dissapeared??!!!!
[08:29] <rolando> and hitting the win key wont open it
[08:29] <justjosh> so umm....i thought automatix was going to look like adept. but i guess not.
[08:29] <rolando> how is this even possible?
[08:30] <justjosh> it just seems to be running. is this normal?
[08:30] <draik> press ALT+F2 and type 'kicker'
[08:30] <draik> without the quotes
[08:30] <rolando> no kicker i have
[08:30] <rolando> i dont  have kmenu
[08:30] <rolando> gonna restart
[08:31] <raphink> restart won't change anything
[08:31] <draik> justjosh, LOL, that comment was for rolando, but glad I could be of help to you!
[08:31] <raphink> right clicking on the bar and adding the kmenu might help more ;)
[08:32] <uwo> hi all - i was updating through the adept notifier, when sth went wrong. now i cant't run adept ("because another process is using the packaging system") even after restart... which process could this be and how could i kill it (terminal is closed, adept not running, neither synaptic or anything i know of)?
[08:32] <draik> raphink, I think that rolando isnt following anything I've told him.
[08:32] <justjosh> hey, i'll take the help where i can get it. btw, what is DMA and should i turn it on for CDs and DVDs
[08:32] <raphink> draik: hehe
[08:32] <draik> uwo have you checked your running processes?
[08:33] <draik> uwo, if all else fails, close your session and start over
[08:33] <draik> raphink, can't help those who don't want it
[08:33] <abattoir> !dma > justjosh
[08:33] <raphink> sure
[08:33] <uwo> draik: checked the processes and can't find it - tried restarting session and even restart
[08:33] <heinkel_111> argh...what is Kubuntu equivalents of setenv() and unsetenv() or is there a GUI to manipulate environment variables?
[08:33] <draik> !DMA > justjosh
[08:33] <abattoir> justjosh: that should help you, if you havent read it already :P
[08:33] <heinkel_111> can anyone tell me?
[08:34] <justjosh> ok, complete noob, what the heck is !dma?
[08:34] <draik> uwo, did you happen to run another packaging system prior to Adept?
[08:34] <draik> !DMA
[08:34] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hard disks run faster,  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[08:34] <draik> ^^justjosh
[08:34] <heinkel_111> man setenv gives no response :(
[08:34] <justjosh> ah, thanks ubotu
[08:34] <abattoir> justjosh: didnt you get a message from ubotu?
[08:35] <heinkel_111> even if it is listed at the base ov environ.7
[08:35] <uwo> draik: i was updating through clicking the notifier icon - during update it gave me a error message and closed ... since then i can't run it again, nor adept...
[08:35] <heinkel_111> under "see also"
[08:35] <abattoir> justjosh: should have got two actually
[08:35] <draik> justjosh, ubotu is not a person, it's a bot for K/Ubuntu information
[08:35] <justjosh> now i see the tab. used to mirc, not konversation
[08:35] <justjosh> only got one tab tho
[08:35] <justjosh> thank you abbatoir
[08:36] <draik> justjosh go here... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[08:36] <abattoir> justjosh: no problem :) ... draik sent the second one :)
[08:36] <heinkel_111> hmmm environment variables and kubuntu...problem! and hints?
[08:36] <draik> uwo, press ALT+F2 and type 'Adept Updater'
[08:37] <justjosh> so draik- the alt+f2, then type in command will get the bot to answer my ?s
[08:37] <justjosh> or app name
[08:38] <draik> justjosh, you type '!<information>' and it will give you what you need, if the information is available
[08:38] <justjosh> cool.
[08:38] <justjosh> hmm. !wine-- could not run the specified command
[08:38] <serialzkiller> hi hackers peace 2 ya all
[08:38] <draik> justjosh, example: !DMA will give you information !cars will not
[08:38] <draik> !cars
[08:38] <ubotu> I know nothing about cars - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:38] <justjosh> !wine
[08:38] <draik> ^^ justjosh
[08:38] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:39] <justjosh> !beer
[08:39] <draik> there you go justjosh
[08:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about beer - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:39] <eshadow> Hello. I installed KNode but i heve just noticed that there is no icon in Kontact's left menu. Enyone know what to do?
[08:39] <justjosh> you SAY you know nothing about beer, but I don't believe you bot.
[08:40] <justjosh> !firestarter
[08:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[08:40] <justjosh> !shorewall
[08:40] <pyret> how do i look at windows media player movies on web pages?
[08:40] <justjosh> pyret, i think you need mplayer and some other stuff. are you using konqeror
[08:41] <justjosh> apparently automatix should solve the problem.
[08:41] <Ademan> everytime i update through the automatic updates, my /boot/grub/menu.lst gets overridden and i lose my windows boot option
[08:41] <pyret> ok...no i dont know what konqeror is
[08:41] <justjosh> you're using kubuntu?
[08:42] <Ademan> its the file browser isnt it?
[08:42] <serialzkiller> fuck windows trow it OUT !
[08:42] <Ademan> er it doubles as web too doesnt it?
[08:42] <justjosh> yes it does
[08:42] <uwo> draik: didn't help, but managed through terminal with apt-get update and dpkg --configure. tnx
[08:42] <Ademan> serialzkiller: uh.... wow... nevermind i might actually NEED windows for some applications too, when wine matures more, i may get rid of the partition, but untill then, i need windows
[08:42] <justjosh> but if you go here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80295
[08:43] <justjosh> it should help you get firefox and the codecs you need to view wmv's
[08:43] <serialzkiller> try dpkg --configure -a
[08:43] <pyret> im gonna try ubuntu out for a while and when i dont need windows any more i install ubuntu on my other computer too!
[08:43] <serialzkiller> it will repair some shit at our apt-get
[08:44] <pyret> i got firefox...what is e name of the codec?th
[08:44] <rr72> lynx is under rated
[08:44] <narvik86> show me page for example
[08:44] <narvik86> i wil chceck
[08:44] <narvik86> *will*
[08:45] <uwo> i have more question - i have a package which i compiled myself. a newer version is now available, which i do not want to install. I would therefore like to "freeze" this package - so that the adept notifier wouldn't be constantly offering me an update - how do i set it to disregard a newer available package (to get rid of the icon in the icon tray)?
[08:46] <Blissex> uwo: look for APT pinning///
[08:46] <serialzkiller> the name is kitty ?th
[08:46] <uwo> Blissex: tnx. will do
[08:46] <Blissex> uwo: http://WWW.Argon.org/~roderick/apt-pinning.html
[08:47] <Blissex> uwo: http://WWW.Debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html#s-pin
[08:47] <serialzkiller> http://kitty.in.th/index.php?room=lab&id=268
[08:47] <serialzkiller> hi serenity
[08:57] <coachj> how do I install this file   tremulous-1.1.0-installer.x86.run
[08:58] <Hawkwind> sh tremulous-1.1.0-installer.x86.run
[08:59] <coachj> Hawkwind: will it show up in the menu?
[09:02] <rr72> can i get a system info bar like gkrell but horizontal?
[09:03] <rr72> gkrell is vertical
[09:03] <narvik86> coachj: i have tremulous from zip archuve for win and linux
[09:03] <coachj> narvik86: how is it?
[09:04] <narvik86> coachj: i just run it by typing sh tremulous.x86
[09:04] <narvik86> in game directory
[09:06] <coachj> narvik86: How is the game?
[09:07] <narvik86> coachj: you see, i have broken collarbone(bone in my arm) so i can't play, but i think is fun, i prefer nexuiz
[09:08] <narvik86> coachj: but nexuiz runs bad on my ati :/
[09:08] <coachj> oh sorry, I broke my coller bone years ago ouch
[09:09] <TheCobra> hi
[09:09] <narvik86> hi
[09:09] <TheCobra> got a problem with the kubuntu cd
[09:09] <TheCobra> when I run the cd
[09:09] <TheCobra> I get an error that a config file is missing or something
[09:09] <TheCobra> after that I get the prompt
[09:09] <TheCobra> so no X for me
[09:09] <TheCobra> no problems with the ubuntu version
[09:10] <narvik86> did you chceck md5sum after downloading cd?
[09:10] <TheCobra> how can u do an md5sum?
[09:10] <narvik86> coachj: did you play nexuiz or tremulous? can you install it?
[09:11] <narvik86> TheCobra: on website should be md5sum file
[09:12] <TheCobra> and than test it with witch program?
[09:12] <narvik86> md5sum in console
[09:12] <coachj> narvik86:havent played either
[09:12] <narvik86> md5sum is a program
[09:12] <narvik86> coachj: why not?
[09:13] <coachj> navik86:just finding out them
[09:13] <coachj> about them
[09:13] <coachj> I have a ati 8500 but having trouble getting 3d to work
[09:14] <narvik86> coachj: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide  i used this guide
[09:14] <coachj> looking
[09:15] <narvik86> coachj: first method was good for me
[09:17] <coachj> think I tried that and it caused the display area to use only a fraction on the aviable screen realestate, took forever to get it back
[09:17] <narvik86> really? maybe it switched to virtual desktop
[09:18] <narvik86> i tried this for first time and it works
[09:18] <narvik86> but nexuiz is still odd, other games seems to be ok
[09:19] <narvik86> that is your choice :)
[09:19] <coachj> ok thks
[09:23] <soulrider> cana nyone suggest a good free online FPS?
[09:23] <hhhjr> ok  once again I need help  I havr a Dual PIII 1ghz slot1 copermine with a supermicro mn p6dbu I belive I thought both cpu's were being reconized but I know that they are not this is the warning I am getting "WARNING: NR_CPUS limit of 1 reached.  Processor ignored." Any Help? Please
[09:24] <narvik86> soulrider: Nexuiz
[09:24] <narvik86> soulrider: warsow
[09:26] <soulrider> i think i tried nexuiz once, but i didnt really like it
[09:26] <soulrider> and it was VERY laggy
[09:27] <hhhjr> Is there a multi proc kernal distro uf ubuntu  or maybe the servre version?
[09:27] <narvik86> soulrider: tremulous
[09:28] <narvik86> soulrider: Nexuiz is odd for especially ati users, and have got high requirements
[09:28] <soulrider> i think i tried warsow too, adnw as laggy as well :/
[09:29] <soulrider> http://www.warsow.net/media/screenshots/wdm5b.jpg this screenshot looks so tron-ish
[09:29] <montoya> tengo un problema
[09:29] <soulrider> montoya: que te pasa?
[09:29] <soulrider> !es
[09:29] <narvik86> soulrider: so you probably don't have graphic drivers installed?
[09:29] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:29] <montoya> el KOpete no me esta conectando
[09:29] <montoya> no se que pueda ser
[09:29] <soulrider> i do, installed them yesterday :P
[09:30] <soulrider> actualzia a la ultima version a ver que pasa
[09:30] <montoya> OK
[09:30] <Tm_T> please use english
[09:31] <soulrider> narvik86: does warsow use any quake engines?
[09:31] <soulrider> i remember one of those games did
[09:31] <soulrider> because i could build maps.... :)
[09:31] <farous> hi i can not see arabic characters when i use fish to secure shell to my server. Anyone know what package should i install. Both units run ubuntu
[09:32] <narvik86> soulrider: i think quake 2 modified engine
[09:32] <narvik86> soulrider: nexuiz uses quake1 engine called dark places
[09:32] <elle> hi
[09:33] <narvik86> soulrider: tremulous uses quake3 angine :)
[09:34] <ju_> bonsoir
[09:34] <soulrider> yea, i just read that
[09:34] <soulrider> how good is it online ?
[09:34] <farous> elle: hi
[09:36] <elle> is it possible to reset kde/gnome?
[09:36] <narvik86> soulrider: it fastest for me ( i mean performance) for gameplay you have to read manual, 2 ways of playing and you can evolve or be engeenier :)
[09:36] <farous> elle: what do you mean by reset
[09:36] <narvik86> elle: ctrl+alt+backspace will reset x server
[09:36] <elle> no
[09:36] <h3sp4wn> hhhjr: Are you just using the standard 686 kernel on dapper ?
[09:37] <farous> elle: do you mean restetting all global config files. or just your local config files
[09:37] <h3sp4wn> hhhjr: linux-image-server will give you a smp kernel that is optimised (quite heavily) for server workloads (i.e if you was using at a desktop the interactive performance would be slow)
[09:37] <elle> all globel config files
[09:38] <farous> elle: that is tremendeous job you need to do it for all installed packages yourself. It will take same time as reinstalling
[09:39] <elle> thanks farous
[09:39] <elle> my english is not very good ....
[09:39] <farous> elle: you can reset your local config file easily though
[09:39] <soulrider> narvik86: whast the server population like in warsow?
[09:39] <farous> elle: how about creating a new user account on your pc and see if you liking the default setting
[09:40] <drunkpikachu> can anyone perhaps give me some insight as to why ndiswrapper will install my drivers (and tell me hardware is present) but typing iwconfig doesn't list a wlan0?
[09:40] <elle> oh nice idea
[09:40] <abattoir> drunkpikachu: the ndiswrapper module might not be loaded
[09:41] <TheCobra> checksum is diffrent idd
[09:41] <abattoir> drunkpikachu: 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper'
[09:41] <drunkpikachu> abattoir:loading doesn't really do anything
[09:41] <h3sp4wn> drunkpikachu: Are you using the specific recommended driver for your chipset (or just any old windows driver)
[09:41] <farous> drunkpikachu: did you install the firmware
[09:41] <drunkpikachu> h3sp4wn: I'm using the same drivers windows is currently using
[09:42] <h3sp4wn> drunkpikachu: Look on the ndiswrapper wiki for the recommended driver for your chipset
[09:42] <h3sp4wn> drunkpikachu: amd64 or i386 ?
[09:42] <narvik86> soulrider: it really depend of day and time :) there is always someone to play
[09:43] <drunkpikachu> hespawn: most people link me to the amd64 but that won't even install, so I use the 386 (extracted from the compaw driver exe)
[09:43] <farous> hi i can not see arabic characters when i use fish to secure shell to my server. Anyone know what package should i install. Both units run ubuntu
[09:43] <abattoir> drunkpikachu: check the message from ndislog... type 'dmesg' and see if you get any messages
[09:43] <uwo> trying to compile ksirk - on ./configure i get "Qt was not found"..."Please set QTDIR first (/usr/lib/qt3?)" - what could be missing?
[09:44] <abattoir> uwo: you are running Gnome?
[09:44] <uwo> abattoir: no - kde
[09:44] <drunkpikachu> abattoir: alot shows up, what sort of keywords should I be looking for?
[09:44] <narvik86> farous: try language-pack-ar-base and language-pack-kde-ar-base
[09:45] <farous> narvik86: have them both installed :(
[09:45] <narvik86> farous: language-pack-gnome-ar-base for gnome yopu use ubuntu
[09:45] <drunkpikachu> abattoir: actaully, "ERROR: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed
[09:45] <farous> narvik86: the host use ubuntu the client use kde
[09:45] <farous> the main problem with my client
[09:45] <abattoir> drunkpikachu: if you tried 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' now, then the error message should be towards the end... else 'dmesg | grep ndis' might be better... also what chipset, there might be native drivers which prevent ndiswrapper from taking control
[09:45] <abattoir> drunkpikachu: aah, ok, so its the latter
[09:46] <narvik86> farous: language-support-ar this should help
[09:46] <farous> narvik86: thanx for all the help will try that
[09:46] <abattoir> drunkpikachu: dapper's kernel has inbuilt support for broadcom chipsets
[09:46] <abattoir> drunkpikachu: you could either use that or use ndiswrapper
[09:46] <narvik86> farous: i don't have any other ideas :)
[09:47] <abattoir> drunkpikachu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper should guide you
[09:47] <farous> narvik86: i will try to look at the dpendencies of those meta packages perhaps i have a problem with one of the packages they install :)
[09:47] <drunkpikachu> abattoir: erm, on thing , I'm not using ubuntu. I uninstalled ubuntu for FC5 (heresy, I know, but the guys here are ussually more helpful than other IRC channels)
[09:47] <farous> narvik86: you directed me to the right path to invest. for that i am gratefull :)
[09:47] <abattoir> drunkpikachu: heh, lol
[09:48] <narvik86> farous: good luck :)
[09:48] <farous> :)
[09:48] <abattoir> drunkpikachu: ok, then check if your kernel has native bcm43xx support
[09:48] <draik> Does anybody know of any voice-recognition software that works on Kubuntu 6.06?
[09:48] <aliasfred> draik: i would be interested by the answr too
[09:48] <abattoir> drunkpikachu: ...also if you tell us about your operating system, we wont be misled, and hence wont mislead you :)
[09:49] <zeroconf> can anybody say - is it right to add http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest/ to the /etc/apt/sources.list to get always latest stable KDE? Or shall I add http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354/ and when next KDE comes out - I need reconfigure all PC's, where I have Kubuntu installed? And I have a lot of PC's with Kubuntu installed...
[09:49] <uwo> considering the error msg on ./configure is " Please set QTDIR first (/usr/lib/qt3?) ", but the qtdir is apparently /usr/share/qt3, would it help if i set it how do i set it as such - how do i do this?
[09:49] <zeroconf> and the same with KOffice and Amarok
[09:50] <abattoir> drunkpikachu: actually, i'm just sleepy... from the error msg. you posted earlier, it means that you do have native bcm43xx support in your kernel
[09:50] <abattoir> drunkpikachu: so loosely follow the instructions at the ubuntu wiki...
[09:51] <drunkpikachu> abattoir: Alright, lets see what I can do.... and possibly mess up :D
[09:51] <OdyX> does somebody have a successful backup with rdiff-backup ? It crashes here...
[09:52] <asimon> uwo: to set QTDIR do 'export QTDIR=/usr/share/qt3', make also sure you have libqt3-mt-dev installed.
[09:53] <bobbyd> hi
[09:53] <bobbyd> how do I hibernate from KDE in Kubuntu?
[09:53] <bobbyd> there's no option in the logout dialog
[09:54] <uwo> asimon: tnx. the export QTDIR=/usr/share/qt3 worked!
[09:58] <hhhjr> h3sp4win, I have a pIII dual    box I loaded it with the standard Kubuntu Draper wiith 2.6.15-26-386 kernal I am trying to read up on how to update the kernal now but not sure if  I will have to reinstall from scratch Thanks
[09:58] <Chousuke> hhhjr: install linux-image-whatever
[09:58] <Chousuke> hhhjr: preferably the smp-version
[09:59] <hhhjr> yes but   I am a newbie and  need to find out how to do it thanks
[10:00] <Blissex> hhhjr: use Synaptic or Aptitude and choose a different version of the kernel package, name 'linux-*' as <Chousuke> said.
[10:00] <Blissex> hhhjr: you don't need to reinstall anything, and you can even have different kernel versions for safety.
[10:01] <Blissex> hhhjr: or Adept, of course, to manager the packages.
[10:01] <hhhjr> yes that is what I am trying to do but I changed the repositories and am now trying to figure out how to restore them thanks
[10:01] <Chousuke> hmm
[10:01] <Chousuke> !source-o-matic
[10:01] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:01] <Blissex> hhhjr: just use the standard repositories, there is a list on the web site.
[10:02] <hhhjr> ok thanks
[10:02] <Chousuke> does a linux-image-686-smp package exist?
[10:02] <Chousuke> I'm not sure about the -smp part.
[10:02] <Chousuke> but if it is, I think that would be best for hhhjr
[10:02] <kRocKodile> hello
[10:02] <asimon> Chousuke: I think the 686 kernel has SMP enabled, there is no extra smp kernel package.
[10:03] <Chousuke> asimon: ah, okay.
[10:03] <Chousuke> well, linux-image-686 then
[10:03] <Blissex> yes, most distros/linux are going SMP by default because now a lot/most new PCs and laptops have dual core CPUs.
[10:03] <kRocKodile> im trying to add the 'view mode' button in konqueror but i cant find it? is deleted by kubuntu developers?
[10:03] <jaime> How to print on Inkscape
[10:04] <Blissex> kRocKodile: whatever that is just look at 'Setting;Edit toolbars'
[10:04] <jaime> #inkscape
[10:04] <kRocKodile> Blissex: missing....
[10:04] <kRocKodile> i wonder why
[10:05] <abattoir> kRocKodile: I have it...
[10:05] <zeroconf> can anybody say - is it right to add http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest/ to the /etc/apt/sources.list to get always latest stable KDE? Or shall I add http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354/ and when next KDE comes out - I need reconfigure all PC's, where I have Kubuntu installed? And I have a lot of PC's with Kubuntu installed... and the same with KOffice and Amarok...
[10:05] <abattoir> kRocKodile: View->View Mode
[10:05] <kRocKodile> abattoir: kubuntu 6.06 ?
[10:05] <kRocKodile> abattoir: i say the toolbar BUTTON not the menu option
[10:06] <asimon> Blissex: there is an other reason too, SMP kernels don't have any disadvantage for uni-processor systems nowadays, if they see only one processor during booting, they just switch in up mode
[10:07] <kRocKodile> abattoir: do you have the view toolbar button?
[10:07] <zeroconf> I see amarok-stable and koffice-stable but no kde-stable at http://kubuntu.org/packages/ ...
[10:07] <abattoir> kRocKodile:hmm... my mistake... let me check
[10:07] <asimon> zeroconf: As I understand it, kde-latest will point to the latest packages.
[10:07] <Blissex> asimon: it is not quite as simple as that!
[10:08] <kRocKodile> i think the kubuntu developers is gnome users... :/
[10:08] <zeroconf> asimon: yes, but they might be not stable
[10:08] <raphink> zeroconf: maybe because kde-stable makes no sense
[10:08] <raphink> ;)
[10:08] <Blissex> asimon: the SMP kernels, esepcially for preemption, used to be quite a bit more buggy than UP ones. But now that many have dual core the bugs are being ifxed.
[10:08] <kRocKodile> maybe they think kubuntu users are idiots and the view button is too much for them
[10:09] <raphink> kRocKodile: who do you think you're insulting?
[10:09] <kRocKodile> raphink: show me that i have wrong
[10:09] <raphink> what button are you talking about?
[10:10] <kRocKodile> the 'view mode' toolbar button
[10:10] <raphink> ah right
[10:10] <raphink> you can add it
[10:10] <slow-motion> n8
[10:10] <kRocKodile> i can't i missing
[10:10] <kRocKodile> is missing
[10:11] <raphink> hmmm
[10:11] <raphink> let me see
[10:11] <bobbyd> what app can I use to set up an ad-hoc wifi network?
[10:12] <raphink> hmm
[10:12] <raphink> there's no reason why we would have removed it kRocKodile
[10:12] <raphink> does it show in KDE 3.5 on other distros?
[10:12] <kRocKodile> yes
[10:12] <kRocKodile> in gentoo, fedora, suse
[10:12] <raphink> alright
[10:12] <raphink> did you file a bug for that?
[10:13] <kRocKodile> so its a bug?
[10:13] <raphink> it seems to be
[10:13] <raphink> I can't find it either
[10:13] <kRocKodile> also missing the terminal option in konqueror
[10:13] <raphink> and we surely didn't remove it on purpose
[10:13] <raphink> where ?
[10:13] <raphink> F8 works
[10:13] <hhhjr> Hey guys thanks for the help and the link to the automatic repository generator   very cool
[10:13] <kRocKodile> yes F8 works... hmmm
[10:14] <kRocKodile> ok this is a half bug:>
[10:14] <kRocKodile> because is missing from menu only
[10:14] <raphink> kRocKodile: the menus have been redone, so that can explain for this one
[10:14] <raphink> but not for the view button
[10:16] <kRocKodile> damn... i use this button alot :(
[10:16] <raphink> can you file bugs for these kRocKodile?
[10:16] <kRocKodile> i can try
[10:16] <kRocKodile> (sorry for my bad english)
[10:16] <raphink> http://launchpad.net/malone kRocKodile
[10:17] <raphink> sorry I don't speak greek kRocKodile ;)
[10:17] <kRocKodile> thats ok, i go now to file this bug
[10:17] <drunkpika> abattoir: you there?
[10:18] <BluesKaj> what K3b plugin do I need to burn encoded dvd files ?
[10:18] <kRocKodile> I guess I go there?: 'Report a bug in a package'
[10:18] <Hawkwind> BluesKaj: k3b-dvd
[10:19] <abattoir> drunkpika: yes
[10:20] <assar> hej.. Jag har en liten frga.. Hur joinar jag andra irc kanaler? r det inte "#j" och sen vad?
[10:21] <drunkpika> abattoir: on the guide you gave me, I can't quite get what need to be done with the firmware files. I've compiled them but I don't quite get what they mean by downloaded file (#: sudo bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware <downloaded file>)
[10:21] <BluesKaj> !se
[10:21] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[10:21] <Lynoure> assar: /join kanalnamnet
[10:21] <BluesKaj> det svenska kanal
[10:21] <assar> okey.. tack
[10:21] <abattoir> drunkpika: in that step, you actually extract the firmware for your driver
[10:21] <Lynoure> BluesKaj: he is asking how to join channels
[10:21] <assar> #j ubuntu-se
[10:22] <hhhjr> Hey ppl just 1 more question I have a kernal image of 2.6.15-26-386 but the one I am loading via synaptic manager is 2.4.27.686 smp does that sound right?
[10:22] <drunkpika> abattoir: from?
[10:22] <BluesKaj>  /join #kubuntu-se
[10:23] <hhhjr> ok i guess Ill find out now lol
[10:23] <hhhjr> thanks again
[10:23] <abattoir> drunkpika: look at the step above...
[10:23] <asimon> hhhjr: You probably don't want a 2.4 kernel. Try to install the 2.6.15-x-686
[10:24] <drunkpika> abattoir: gah, im an idiot
[10:24] <abattoir> drunkpika: you must read the README file, find the correct firmware version for your chip and d'load it
[10:24] <pyret> anyone knows how i install mplayer codecs?
[10:24] <raphink> !codecs
[10:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:24] <pyret> thanks
[10:25] <narvik86> pyret: or w32codecs  	IMO
[10:27] <SpAwN> could anyone in here help me add a external device to the fstab so it will be auto mounted everyt time i plug it in?
[10:27] <SpAwN> http://pastebin.ca/119369  <---what dmesg says when i connect it
[10:28] <kRocKodile> raphink: ok i file it (Bug #55436) so what next? i wait for the 6.07 version?
[10:28] <raphink> there's no 6.07 version kRocKodile ;)
[10:28] <raphink> the next version is 6.10 ;)
[10:28] <aliasfred> SpAwN: looks fine from 1000miles away
[10:28] <SpAwN> aliasfred, what looks fine?...
[10:29] <aliasfred> SpAwN: dmesg output
[10:29] <SpAwN> aliasfred, i dont know how to add a entry to my fstab
[10:29] <kRocKodile> raphink: so i must re-install kubuntu ?
[10:29] <raphink> kRocKodile: no
[10:29] <raphink> just upgrade it when edgy is out if you want it
[10:29] <raphink> that'll be in october (hence 6.10)
[10:29] <kRocKodile> nice:> thank you!
[10:30] <SpAwN> aliasfred, do u know how i could add a entry to my fstab for that device?
[10:31] <raphink> kRocKodile: you're also welcome to help fixing it if you find the source of the bug
[10:31] <aliasfred> SpAwN: nope, but i think the point is not in fstab. but more in some kind of automount stuff
[10:31] <kRocKodile> raphink: is it possible in 6.10 version the bug still exist?
[10:31] <aliasfred> SpAwN: i dunno how kubuntu handle this, but fstab is more for static stuff
[10:31] <raphink> kRocKodile: if it's not fixed, yes
[10:31] <raphink> hopefully it'll be fixed
[10:31] <raphink> kRocKodile: the best way to get sure it gets fixed is to help fixing it
[10:32] <raphink> this is what open-source is about
[10:32] <SpAwN> aliasfred, well thanks anyways...but im using e17 and want to use a module that will auto mount stuff when it is plugged in and i was told that for it to work that i need to have it in my fstab
[10:32] <kRocKodile> raphink: sorry i dont know C or C++.. just shell (bash) scripting
[10:32] <raphink> alright
[10:32] <raphink> kRocKodile: if you could try in Debian for example
[10:32] <raphink> and see if this bug exists there too
[10:32] <raphink> that would help
[10:32] <jott> kRocKodile: its a kubuntu thing
[10:32] <jott> kRocKodile: cp /data/usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror-orig.rc konq-kubuntu.rc ;)
[10:32] <jott> erm
[10:33] <raphink> jott: if that gets the button bar, then we have a bug
[10:33] <jott> kRocKodile: /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/apps/konqueror
[10:33] <jott> to this place konq-kubuntu.rc
[10:33] <pyret> does anyone knows a good dc++ server prog for ubuntu?
[10:33] <jott> kubuntu seems to "simplify" certian things ;)
[10:37] <draik> aliasfred, I guess nobody knew about voice-recognition for kubuntu
[10:38] <aliasfred> draik: yep, voice recognition is like not mainstream on linux in general. there is likely some research soft existing, but nothing in the mainstream
[10:38] <draik> :(
[10:38] <aliasfred> would be cool to say "open firefox" in the micro and have it launched
[10:38] <draik> LOL... I understand that as talking to the microwave... LOL
[10:38] <jott> isn't ther viavoice for linux? or has it stopped development?
[10:39] <draik> !viavoice
[10:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about viavoice - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:39] <aliasfred> the strange point is that good voice recognition tech do exists
[10:39] <jott> it's commercial afair... but last time i heared about it was some years ago
[10:39] <aliasfred> viavoice implemented such
[10:39] <aliasfred> yep viavoice was done by ibm
[10:39] <abattoir> aliasfred: i'm yet to do that w/ linux, despite countless sleepless nights.... :(
[10:40] <aliasfred> the basic 'single word multiple locutor' is not that hard
[10:40] <aliasfred> and require no training
[10:40] <abattoir> aliasfred: there is a nice utility called Nitrous Voice flux for windows that does just that...
[10:41] <aliasfred> stuff like viavoice are much harder to do tho :)
[10:41] <draik> Nitrous Voice??? That's an interesting name
[10:41] <jott> hey i guess its not hard to beat vistas voice recognition after all ;)
[10:41] <kRocKodile> jott: i must restart kde or just close n open konqueror?
[10:41] <jott> kRocKodile: just start konqi
[10:42] <draik> isn't konqi the KDE dragon?
[10:42] <jott> ;)
[10:42] <jott> whatoever
[10:42] <abattoir> draik: http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/Utilities/Misc__Utilities/Nitrous_Voice_Flux.html
[10:42] <draik> I like that dragon, but then again I love dragons
[10:42] <jott> ok got to go...
[10:43] <draik> Is that for linux?
[10:43] <draik> or just windoze?
[10:44] <draik> by jott
[10:44] <draik> *bye jott
[10:44] <abattoir> draik: for windows :(
[10:44] <draik> :'(
[10:44] <kRocKodile> jott: is still missing:(
[10:44] <abattoir> draik: as i said, i've been searching for linux alternatives... for more than a year...
[10:45] <abattoir> maybe its time to code it :P
[10:45] <h3sp4wn> 
[10:45] <_1Bh> cant install dapper drake on a thinkpad Z60m
[10:45] <draik> It would be nice if some dev's got on it
[10:45] <aliasfred> abattoir: we are behind you :)
[10:45] <draik> all the way
[10:46] <aliasfred> abattoir: not even some library out of the lab ?
[10:46] <abattoir> aliasfred: hehe, i'd love to work on it, but definitely not on my own....
[10:46] <draik> I'll be the lab rat or test monkey or whatever other thing I need to be
[10:46] <aliasfred> oh i see you are lazy :)
[10:46] <aliasfred> or you sleep too much :)
[10:47] <abattoir> aliasfred: hmmm... you wouldnt say that if you saw my activity logs here for the past month..... but then :P
[10:47] <aliasfred> ok :)
[10:48] <abattoir> anyways, i'm working on 'other things' :P
[10:48] <abattoir> _1Bh: what exactly is the problem?
[10:48] <gplfighter> hi
[10:48] <_1Bh> it boots to the live os, but then the install does not work
[10:48] <gplfighter> how can i add an option to kdm?
[10:49] <abattoir> _1Bh: any errors? does the installer load at all?
[10:49] <gplfighter> i have to place a *.desktop file, buut where?
[10:49] <draik> I have yet to come across an unsuccessful install of Kubuntu
[10:49] <abattoir> aliasfred: and I also have no experience w/ voice programming stuff... which is definitely way out of my league
[10:50] <_1Bh> It says that the installer crashed, I tried to send bug report but there is some kind of resource problem
[10:50] <_1Bh> the cd rom just keeps cycling over and over
[10:50] <abattoir> _1Bh: during which step?
[10:50] <aliasfred> abattoir: good oportunity for learning you mean ?
[10:50] <asimon> gplfighter: I think it's /usr/share/xsessions/
[10:50] <drunkpika> has anyone else had problems running 'make installfw' when trying to use the bcm43xx-fwcutter files?
[10:50] <gplfighter> yes, it is
[10:50] <abattoir> aliasfred: hmmm, ok, so shall we work on it together?
[10:50] <gplfighter> i've found it :-)
[10:50] <_1Bh> right after the desktop loads the live os, then the installer tries to launch and immediately crashes
[10:51] <gplfighter> _1Bh: and the alternate install cd?
[10:51] <abattoir> _1Bh: do you have the installer log files? could you pastebin them?
[10:51] <aliasfred> abattoir: i dont want to steal your project :)
[10:51] <abattoir> !pastebin
[10:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:51] <abattoir> aliasfred: we could always be a team :)
[10:51] <drunkpika> sounds hot
[10:51] <abattoir> _1Bh: /var/log/installer/syslog , iirc
[10:52] <aliasfred> abattoir: more seriously, i surely whish i had the time i got when i was a student :)
[10:52] <aliasfred> abattoir: i did some pattern recognition at the time
[10:52] <abattoir> aliasfred: which is exactly what i lack, being one
[10:52] <_1Bh> breezy badger runs great and installs great on this machine, so I am back on that right now. I will have to do it over to get the logs
[10:52] <_1Bh> but I can do that
[10:52] <aliasfred> abattoir: you lack time being student 1?!?!!?
[10:53] <abattoir> _1Bh: make use of the live cd :P, send info when the installation fails :)
[10:53] <abattoir> aliasfred: ummm, yes, especially when... aah nvm
[10:53] <drunkpika> aliasfred: what do you think he is, a business major?
[10:53] <kRocKodile> a user in #debian says the button exists so... i guess this is a kubuntu bug
[10:53] <abattoir> aliasfred: we are going way offtopic
[10:53] <gan|y|med> hello
[10:53] <aliasfred> abattoir: indeed :)
[10:54] <ciusbet> hi guys!
[10:54] <_1Bh> The os is unstable and requires extreme patience to use anything on it, like mail
[10:54] <ciusbet> i have a question!
[10:54] <_1Bh> will send the info
[10:55] <ciusbet> someone knows how to configure OpenGL options?
[10:55] <gan|y|med> since i updated to the new kde version, network printing doesn't work anymore. the cups server is alright, printing locally and from a win client works, just my linux client doesn't wnat anymore. jobs are sent out and it seems they get there, but nothing happens
[10:55] <gan|y|med> any ideas?
[10:55] <ciusbet> i am playing with Unreal 2004 and i've some problems
[10:56] <ciusbet> the game is toooooo fast
[10:56] <gan|y|med> that'S sth. people don't hear that often in a linux channel
[10:56] <ciusbet> if i set resolution > 1024, game crashes
[10:56] <ciusbet> :S
[10:57] <gan|y|med> have you checked the x server log?
[10:57] <abattoir> aliasfred: anyways, i'll ping you later, and we'll discuss working on 'KDE Voice Control System' :P
[10:57] <ciusbet> where is it dude?
[10:57] <aliasfred> ok :)
[10:57] <ciusbet> y change xorg.conf
[10:57] <ciusbet> and install nvidia.glx
[10:57] <gan|y|med> anybody here has printing problems via ipp? because i have...
[10:58] <gan|y|med> ciusbet: /var/log
[10:58] <ciusbet> thx
[10:59] <ciusbet> and, do you know how can i change OpenGL options?
[10:59] <ciusbet> enable FSAA, aniso..
[11:01] <ciusbet> x server log doesnt help
[11:01] <gan|y|med> ciusbet: no, sorry. especially since i don't play on linux and have an ati card. i won't be mcuh of a help
[11:01] <ciusbet> ok thanks you
[11:01] <ciusbet> i hope someone knows
[11:01] <gan|y|med> are there any issues about ipp printing in kde?
[11:02] <kRocKodile> i also notice the konqueror does not remember my (saved in default profile) view mode
[11:03] <kRocKodile> is this a kubuntu bug also?
[11:04] <gan|y|med> what are you opening? kfmclient (file manager) or browser?
[11:04] <kRocKodile> file manager
[11:05] <swinghead> hallo
[11:05] <kRocKodile> why the kubuntu developers "tweaks" the konqueror so much? is not enouf good by default?
[11:07] <kRocKodile> i think the 6.06 is it not ready for release.... to many bugs
[11:07] <h3sp4wn> They are releasing a point release soon
[11:07] <Hawkwind> LOL 6.10 is almost out
[11:07] <h3sp4wn> 6.06.1
[11:08] <lhds> hello how to untar a .tar file?
[11:08] <h3sp4wn> rar xf
[11:08] <rr72> is there a system infomation like gkrell but horizontal instead of vertical?
[11:08] <h3sp4wn> tar xf file.tar
[11:08] <rr72> h3sp4wn~ tar -zxvf
[11:08] <unstablesob> anyone else getting seg faults with smb?
[11:09] <Hawkwind> rr72: conky
[11:09] <rr72> sorry
[11:09] <rr72> thats tar.gz
[11:09] <h3sp4wn> rr72: v is not necessary and he didn't mention gz
[11:09] <Hawkwind> rr72: The - is deprecated and no longer needed
[11:09] <rr72> Hawkwind~ im old school
[11:09] <rr72> habbit
[11:10] <gan|y|med> save it as file manager. the konqueror setup in kubuntu has never been very sohisticated in my opinion. but that's no reason not to use it
[11:10] <soulrider> can someone help me configure kmail? it wont connect to gmail properly. I seached the wikia nd found nothing
[11:10] <gan|y|med> since i updated to the new kde version, network printing doesn't work anymore. the cups server is alright, printing locally and from a win client works, just my linux client doesn't wnat anymore. jobs are sent out and it seems they get there, but nothing happens
[11:10] <rr72> so then tar version would return the version?
[11:10] <ceruleantiger> This may be a little off topic, but you know kde input actions where you can do the custom key bindings? Is there any way to get that in OS X?
[11:11] <ceruleantiger> I've been searching forever, and I just can't for the life of me find anything about it, so this is sort of a last ditch effort
[11:11] <rr72> ceruleantiger~ ask in #kde yet?
[11:11] <h3sp4wn> tar --version
[11:11] <apeman2020> Hi1
[11:11] <ceruleantiger> rr72: no, that would make too much sense :P /me -> #kde
[11:12] <Chousuke> ceruleantiger: keyboard preference pane?
[11:12] <Chousuke> you can define keyboard shortcuts there. :P
[11:12] <Chousuke> meh
[11:12] <rr72> someone said taht - are depreceated
[11:12] <ciusbet> YYEEH DUDEESS
[11:13] <ciusbet> someone knows how to configure opengl?
[11:13] <rr72> see all of htis would be gone if i ignored hawkwind
[11:13] <rr72> dpkgreconfigure opengl do anything?
[11:13] <Hawkwind> rr72: It's true.  - is deprecated and is *not* needed.  Hasn't been for 5+ years now
[11:13] <rr72> im going to stop using - in all my typing then
[11:13] <h3sp4wn> --wildcards is nolonger default in newer versions of tar thats annoying
[11:14] <rr72> dpkgreconfigre command not found?
[11:14] <rr72> i thought Hawkwind u said - are obsolete
[11:14] <lhds> in /usr/src i should have a linux folder with an @ next to it instead i have a linux-headers-2.6.15-26      linux-source-2.6.15 linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386    any suggestions?
[11:14] <Hawkwind> rr72: In the tar command
[11:15] <Hawkwind> rr72: Pay attention to the conversation and stop trolling, as usual
[11:15] <gan|y|med> why doesn't printing work in kubuntu?
[11:15] <Hawkwind> gan|y|med: It works here without problems using CUPS
[11:15] <ciusbet> i've a big problem with Ut2004
[11:16] <lhds> no suggestions?
[11:16] <dr_willis> gan|y|med,  ive used the gnome-cups-manager tool and the cups web interface. :) the kde printer config  can be a little over kill
[11:17] <dr_willis> what is the  printer gan|y|med ?
[11:18] <enzo> draik_
[11:21] <gan|y|med> it is an epson stylus color 640 on a lan server
[11:21] <gan|y|med> dr_willis: it used to work. seems it doesn't since the last update
[11:21] <gan|y|med> dr_willis: i have read sth. about cups 1.2 and kdeprint problems
[11:22] <montoya> I have a problem
[11:22] <_mathieu> Im currently running kubuntu from my laptop
[11:22] <dr_willis> i always reenable the cups web interface. :P
[11:22] <_mathieu> I'd like to use the VGA port to have dual screen
[11:23] <_mathieu> however it only "clone" the laptop screen on the other monitor...
[11:23] <_mathieu> is it possible to use it as an "extended desktop" -- is there a config tool for this?
[11:23] <dr_willis> depends on the video card. to some degree.. Ive not seen ubuntu have any tools to configure this.
[11:24] <_mathieu> ok :(
[11:24] <montoya> Nesecito aayuda
[11:24] <_mathieu> its a radeon something (the laptop is a LG LW60)
[11:24] <ciusbet> montoya?
[11:24] <ciusbet> que pasa
[11:24] <_mathieu> i have to edit XOrg.conf manually?
[11:24] <gan|y|med> dr_willis: well, i need to be able to print from the client to the server.
[11:24] <dr_willis> _mathieu,  yep.. of course learning what to edit will be the hassle. :)
[11:24] <_mathieu> argh ok
[11:25] <_mathieu> there definately should be a GUI config for this
[11:25] <montoya> mira estoy tratando de usar el KOpete para conectarme con mi cuenta de MSN
[11:25] <dr_willis> Ive only messed with ati and the tv out. never dual monitors
[11:25] <_mathieu> TV Out will be next step
[11:25] <_mathieu> :P
[11:26] <dr_willis> try it now. Mine worked automaticially :P
[11:26] <dr_willis> once i installed the ATI drivers
[11:26] <ciusbet> si
[11:26] <ciusbet> y que pasa
[11:26] <ciusbet> con Kopete
[11:26] <montoya> y no me sirve
[11:26] <gan|y|med> _mathieu: why dont you use the ati gui config tool? you can set up dual monitoring, restart x and it works. for me at least
[11:26] <ciusbet> pues instala GAIM o aMsn
[11:26] <montoya> si con KOPETE
[11:27] <montoya> de donde puedo descargar aMsn
[11:27] <rr72> !english
[11:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about english - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:27] <_mathieu> gan|y|med: cool, whats this tool called?
[11:27] <montoya> pero lo extrao es que ayer funsionaba el KOPETE
[11:27] <ciusbet> Adept
[11:27] <ciusbet> buscas amsn
[11:27] <ciusbet> o gaim
[11:27] <gan|y|med> you just install the ati drivers. they have a graphical installer now and put the gui right in the menu
[11:27] <montoya>  /msg montoya set unfiltered on
[11:28] <montoya> ok
[11:28] <gan|y|med> any ideas about the printing. test printing form the cups config tool doesn't work as well
[11:28] <montoya> gaim tampoco sirve, se conecta y inmediatamente se sale el programa
[11:28] <gnomefreak> !es
[11:28] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:28] <gan|y|med> it sends it, but doesn't print
[11:29] <TheGateKeeper> !broken
[11:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about broken - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:31] <_mathieu> gan|y|med: ok thats weird I got the GUI menu but nothing shows. which driver should I use? "ati"? or "fglrx"?
[11:32] <dr_willis> fglrx is the accelerated 3d driver
[11:38] <gan|y|med> sorry, reading bug reports
[11:39] <Ademan> anyone here have a GRUB splash?
[11:39] <_mathieu> ok, rebooting X
[11:39] <gan|y|med> _mathieu: fglrx. but why don't you just download the latest ati driver from ati.com and install it via the script?
[11:40] <_mathieu> gan|y|med: it wont conflict with the drivers I apt-got?
[11:40] <Ademan> you could uninstall fglrx...
[11:40] <_mathieu> ok. it might turn out being easier then :)
[11:41] <dr_willis> the ati script is a bit on the brain dead side at times.
[11:41] <Ademan> apt-get --remove or something like that, might actually be dpkg --remove   i use synaptic :-p
[11:42] <gan|y|med> just deinstall them
[11:42] <Ademan> i avoid the command line whenever possible, but of course, this is linux... so its more like that one friend that i only hang out with when everyone else is on vacation
[11:42] <gan|y|med> dr_willis: what do you mean?
[11:43] <dr_willis> last i messed with the ati script - it genreated a very very poor  xorg.conf file
[11:43] <dr_willis> i had to change a large amount of it -
[11:43] <gan|y|med> apt-get install --remove packagfe
[11:43] <gan|y|med> forget the f
[11:43] <gan|y|med> when was this?
[11:45] <whizz-> i have been using a different computer for some time, but now i want to append the (konversation) chat logs i have on the other computer to the ones i have on my regular computer... can this be done easily?
[11:46] <timthelion> !java
[11:46] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[11:48] <gan|y|med> it works
[11:50] <apeman2020> 30............
[11:52] <BrigadierFrog> how do I increase the number of maximum files open
[11:52] <BrigadierFrog> even as sudo it says I don't have permission to /proc/sys/fs/file-max
[11:52] <BrigadierFrog> do I need to change something else first?
[11:53] <BrigadierFrog> it seems to max out at around 1024
[11:53] <gan|y|med> dr_willis: is it normal that it needs loooong time to print 30 pages text from openoffice?
[11:54] <dr_willis> ive never used OO..
[11:54] <dr_willis> so cant tell ya. :P
[11:54] <posthuman> does anyone know if amarok1.4.2-beta1 debs are available from anywhere?
[11:54] <gan|y|med> rastertogutenpr <-- do you know this
[11:54] <gan|y|med> uses 85% cpu time right now
[11:54] <h3sp4wn> posthuman: What is in the changelog ?
[11:55] <h3sp4wn> posthuman: Does it fix the issue with streaming radio ?
[11:55] <gan|y|med> if it is a problem to print 30 pages it better quality.. oh my god
[11:55] <posthuman> i believe so
[11:55] <posthuman> yes
[11:56] <justjosh> ubotu !xmms
[11:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about !xmms - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:56] <justjosh> !zinf
[11:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about zinf - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:56] <justjosh> dammit.
[11:57] <justjosh> !mplayer
[11:57] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer
[11:57] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[11:59] <justjosh> so anybody know if mplayer is the linux alternative to winamp?
[12:00] <Martijn81> !fishing
[12:00] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[12:00] <justjosh> yeah, well yer a stupid bot.
[12:00] <justjosh> how's that for abuse..
[12:00] <SpAwN> justjosh, xmms is
[12:01] <SpAwN> justjosh, u can even use winamp skins with xmms
[12:01] <justjosh> any good auto installs for xmms? i just switched to kubuntu about 4 days ago. so far all I've figured out is automatix
[12:01] <h3sp4wn> posthuman: No suitable demux plugin. (that problem) - If I can confirm that amarok 1.4.2 definately fixes that then I could build some (tommorow)
[12:01] <SpAwN> justjosh, use "sudo apt0get install packagename(xmms)"
[12:02] <justjosh> ah, thanx SpAwN
[12:02] <SpAwN> justjosh, "sudo apt-get install"
[12:02] <dr_willis> Egads... dont use automatic.
[12:02] <dr_willis> learn the proper way to isntall things.. its trivially easy. :P
[12:02] <justjosh> yeah, but the wife wants it NOW. so I gotta move fast.
[12:02] <posthuman> automatix works nicely though
[12:02] <posthuman> lol
[12:02] <posthuman> ok h3sp, cool.
[12:03] <justjosh> and if you've got a good tutorial on how to compile dr_willis, please send me a url
[12:03] <dr_willis> posthuman,  theres dozens of peopel that would debate taht point.
[12:03] <posthuman> well, I've never had a problem with it
[12:03] <dr_willis> justjosh,  depends on what you are doing.. find a few C,C++ tutorials.
[12:03] <Smooph> !amarok
[12:03] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.1 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php
[12:03] <posthuman> and it seems to save time, without having to hunt down specific package names
[12:03] <dr_willis> posthuman,  that 'fact' means little to the 100's that have had Major issues with it. :P
[12:03] <Smooph> !mp3
[12:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:04] <posthuman> ah
[12:04] <dr_willis> I just keep a 'history' of the commands i type. :) my own WillisMatix!
[12:04] <justjosh> well i haven't had any major issues w/ it doc. just no external player
[12:04] <justjosh> well dcc me the willismatix and i'll use that too
[12:04] <justjosh> heh.
[12:04] <dr_willis> THen ya got the whole history of AUtomatix - thats such a flamefest -- ya better fireproof your eyes befor reading it.
[12:04] <timthelion> can anyone tell me how to install lame?
[12:05] <justjosh> sudo apt-get install?
[12:05] <justjosh> hmmm....no sudo apt-get install porn anywhere i see tho
[12:05] <dr_willis> !info lame
[12:05] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-1 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 620 kB
[12:05] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install pornview
[12:05] <timthelion> o multiverse...
[12:05] <justjosh> no power in the verse can stop ubotu
[12:06] <timthelion> !porn viewing
[12:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about porn viewing - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:06] <posthuman> pornview?
[12:06] <posthuman> lol
[12:06] <justjosh> i highly doubt that bot, yer a perv.
[12:06] <SpAwN> justjosh, lol....sudo apt-get install xmms will install xmms
[12:06] <dr_willis> !info pornview
[12:06] <ubotu> pornview: Image and movie viewer/manager. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.2pre1-5ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 200 kB, installed size 608 kB
[12:06] <posthuman> o.o
[12:06] <dr_willis> :)
[12:07] <dr_willis> ya thought i made the name up dident ya! :P
[12:07] <Smooph> that thing exists ?
[12:07] <SpAwN> lol
[12:07] <justjosh> where exactly does xmms install? /usr/lib?
[12:07] <posthuman> yes I did
[12:07] <posthuman> lol
[12:07] <posthuman> hah
[12:07] <timthelion> yes
[12:07] <SpAwN> justjosh, umm not sure...probly usr/bin
[12:07] <dr_willis> its an ok image viewer.. rather basic. but ok.
[12:07] <timthelion> !dvd
[12:07] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[12:08] <timthelion> !mp3
[12:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats