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cbx33ping troy_s07:44
troy_sgo07:45
troy_shere cbx3307:45
cbx33hey dude07:46
cbx33howz it going07:46
cbx33gimme 2 secs and i'll be back07:46
cbx33sorry07:46
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msikmaAlmost done with my Ubuntu Human theme improvement suggestions..08:51
msikmaAnyone else working on Ubuntu-art related stuff now?09:01
troy_syes09:03
troy_sbut we can't do anything until production officially presses forwards.09:03
troy_swhich means franks decisions on the various elements09:03
troy_sbut there are quite a few productivity issues being resolved right now.09:04
msikmaPS can we have shadows underneath scroll bars or is this impossible?09:09
msikmaAlso, yeah, I totally have lost track of the process since I went away on a holiday and no longer really know what's going down, but this is just for that wikipage that has been started that allows you to give feedback.09:10
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troy_sum shadows under scrollbars?09:30
troy_smsikma, explain that a bit?09:30
troy_si dont' know the actual implementation... if it is a transparent png then it would be possible.09:31
troy_sbut i know not... probably a scaled drawing so shadows are probably out.09:31
msikmaWell, just kind of a sort of shadow-like gradient.09:31
troy_salso, considering the lack of shadows everywhere else (minus xgl) it would probably seem out of place... but worth looking into.09:31
troy_sgoogle it.09:31
msikmaBut it probably wouldn't work out too well anyway09:31
msikmaWell, the buttons and such have small shadow-like gradients too, so I thought that it _might_ look good.09:31
msikmaLet's see...09:31
troy_sright now the process is heading into producting, which means that once frank sorts out the elements we all get to mix and match the components09:32
troy_swell it is possible perhaps to accentuate the grad?09:32
troy_sthat might be a good idea09:32
troy_swhat we really need are franks final palette direction and gtk integrations.09:32
troy_sso that we can finalize the palette directions for the edgy specs09:33
troy_sand i think he is sorting out the svg repository for the icons as well.09:33
msikmaI do some slight palette changes in this proposal09:36
msikmaThe orange is slightly more brownish09:36
msikmaThat allows for a slightly better contrast on the top bar.09:36
msikmaIt's a little more saturated.09:36
troy_si think Frank is going to pull the palette more into the range of the default wallpaper09:37
troy_sthe rich browns09:37
msikmaElements such as the combo boxes and check buttons have a slight hue gradient applied on them, the top parts being yellowish and the bottom parts being reddish. It looks a little fresher this way, I would say.09:37
msikmaIt's too bad I missed a whole phase of the design process09:37
troy_sindeed... we could have used your help.09:37
troy_sbut there will be plenty of work needed for production.09:38
troy_sthe various compositional directions etc.09:38
msikmaYeah, I'll just contribute with that09:38
msikmaThen maybe I can suggest fancy other stuff for the next cycle.09:38
troy_sthe good news is that we are on schedule, so there is a good chance for some changes to be included.09:39
msikmaThat's nice. I remember the stress from last time. Well, you guys were probably more stressed than I was since I was relatively new.09:40
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fschoeptroy_s: ping10:17
msikmaHi Frank10:18
fschoepHi Michiel,10:18
msikmaWant to see what I am currently working on?10:19
fschoepSure, let me see.10:19
cbx33Hey fschoep10:19
msikmaOkay, it's still very WIP though10:19
fschoepHello Pete, the sound engineer I suppose?10:20
cbx33fschoep, indeed10:20
msikmahttp://www.gamingw.net/pubaccess/28695/themews.png10:20
cbx33wow feels good to be called that10:20
msikmacbx33: that is very cool10:20
msikma:)10:20
msikmaI've always wondered how you guys do your work.10:20
cbx33msikma, hehe10:20
msikmaLike, with what software and such10:20
cbx33the doing the work is easy10:20
cbx33it's the coming up with it in the first place that's hard10:20
cbx33msikma, it's all ubuntu software :p10:21
msikmaHmm...10:21
cbx33I'll show you sometime :p10:21
msikmaThat PNG looks a lot brighter than in Photoshop10:21
fschoepmsikma: looking good, you did that all on your own?10:21
msikmaAwesome, cbx33!10:21
fschoepI mean: is it a theme or pixel pushing?10:21
msikmaOh, I used the window edges from a theme someone made called Chiro, but edited it a little. The rest is a Photoshop mock-up.10:21
fschoepI see :) I thought you had just surpassed my theme editing skills yet.10:22
msikmaHmm... why is it showing up so bright in the browser, though? That's kind of odd.10:22
msikmaHehe, I wish10:22
fschoepIt doesn't look bright here though.10:22
fschoepThe progress bar blends in perfectly with the radio and checkboxes.10:23
msikmaThanks. I'm glad you like it thus far. Now to get that other drop down menu working...10:23
msikmaA JPEG with ICC profile embedded is slightly darker, but still not the same as in Photoshop. http://www.gamingw.net/pubaccess/28695/themewsjpg.jpg10:24
fschoep"That other drop down menu"?10:24
msikmaEr10:24
msikmaGtkCombo10:24
msikmaTo the left10:24
fschoepAh, I see.10:24
fschoepDid you also round the buttons a bit more?10:25
msikmaI'm also considering making the slide bars in the middle (above "Move In Harmony") orange, at least to see how they look like.10:25
msikmaYeah, with a radius of one or two pixels more round.10:25
fschoepLooks awesome.10:25
msikmaThe shadow is also slightly larger.10:25
cbx33fschoep, you got a sec in pm?10:25
msikmaI'm going to try and round the window theme...10:25
fschoepcbx33: sure, didn't notice :)10:25
msikmaMight look better, and it seems there's consensus that it should be round anyway10:25
fschoepmsikma: Try "outdoors" in dapper, looks great.10:25
fschoepEven without antialiasing it conveys the spirit of Ubuntu I think.10:26
msikmaYeah, it uses the SmoothEngine, or something, right?10:26
fschoepI'm not sure yet, I just choose "Outdoors" as the window border and it works nicely.10:26
msikmaOh, I guess I'll have another look at it, then.10:26
msikmaMy laptop is currently encoding video without X loaded.10:27
msikmaSo I'll check later.10:27
fschoepOK, I'm sure you'll come to like it.10:27
fschoepI scared him away.10:40
fschoep:)10:41
fschoepBefore I do any more damage I'll be leaving now, talk to you soon. Good night everyone.10:41
msikmabwaha11:02

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