[12:07] <Viper550> Hi
[07:44] <cbx33> ping troy_s
[07:45] <troy_s> go
[07:45] <troy_s> here cbx33
[07:46] <cbx33> hey dude
[07:46] <cbx33> howz it going
[07:46] <cbx33> gimme 2 secs and i'll be back
[07:46] <cbx33> sorry
[08:51] <msikma> Almost done with my Ubuntu Human theme improvement suggestions..
[09:01] <msikma> Anyone else working on Ubuntu-art related stuff now?
[09:03] <troy_s> yes
[09:03] <troy_s> but we can't do anything until production officially presses forwards.
[09:03] <troy_s> which means franks decisions on the various elements
[09:04] <troy_s> but there are quite a few productivity issues being resolved right now.
[09:09] <msikma> PS can we have shadows underneath scroll bars or is this impossible?
[09:10] <msikma> Also, yeah, I totally have lost track of the process since I went away on a holiday and no longer really know what's going down, but this is just for that wikipage that has been started that allows you to give feedback.
[09:30] <troy_s> um shadows under scrollbars?
[09:30] <troy_s> msikma, explain that a bit?
[09:31] <troy_s> i dont' know the actual implementation... if it is a transparent png then it would be possible.
[09:31] <troy_s> but i know not... probably a scaled drawing so shadows are probably out.
[09:31] <msikma> Well, just kind of a sort of shadow-like gradient.
[09:31] <troy_s> also, considering the lack of shadows everywhere else (minus xgl) it would probably seem out of place... but worth looking into.
[09:31] <troy_s> google it.
[09:31] <msikma> But it probably wouldn't work out too well anyway
[09:31] <msikma> Well, the buttons and such have small shadow-like gradients too, so I thought that it _might_ look good.
[09:31] <msikma> Let's see...
[09:32] <troy_s> right now the process is heading into producting, which means that once frank sorts out the elements we all get to mix and match the components
[09:32] <troy_s> well it is possible perhaps to accentuate the grad?
[09:32] <troy_s> that might be a good idea
[09:32] <troy_s> what we really need are franks final palette direction and gtk integrations.
[09:33] <troy_s> so that we can finalize the palette directions for the edgy specs
[09:33] <troy_s> and i think he is sorting out the svg repository for the icons as well.
[09:36] <msikma> I do some slight palette changes in this proposal
[09:36] <msikma> The orange is slightly more brownish
[09:36] <msikma> That allows for a slightly better contrast on the top bar.
[09:36] <msikma> It's a little more saturated.
[09:37] <troy_s> i think Frank is going to pull the palette more into the range of the default wallpaper
[09:37] <troy_s> the rich browns
[09:37] <msikma> Elements such as the combo boxes and check buttons have a slight hue gradient applied on them, the top parts being yellowish and the bottom parts being reddish. It looks a little fresher this way, I would say.
[09:37] <msikma> It's too bad I missed a whole phase of the design process
[09:37] <troy_s> indeed... we could have used your help.
[09:38] <troy_s> but there will be plenty of work needed for production.
[09:38] <troy_s> the various compositional directions etc.
[09:38] <msikma> Yeah, I'll just contribute with that
[09:38] <msikma> Then maybe I can suggest fancy other stuff for the next cycle.
[09:39] <troy_s> the good news is that we are on schedule, so there is a good chance for some changes to be included.
[09:40] <msikma> That's nice. I remember the stress from last time. Well, you guys were probably more stressed than I was since I was relatively new.
[10:17] <fschoep> troy_s: ping
[10:18] <msikma> Hi Frank
[10:18] <fschoep> Hi Michiel,
[10:19] <msikma> Want to see what I am currently working on?
[10:19] <fschoep> Sure, let me see.
[10:19] <cbx33> Hey fschoep
[10:19] <msikma> Okay, it's still very WIP though
[10:20] <fschoep> Hello Pete, the sound engineer I suppose?
[10:20] <cbx33> fschoep, indeed
[10:20] <msikma> http://www.gamingw.net/pubaccess/28695/themews.png
[10:20] <cbx33> wow feels good to be called that
[10:20] <msikma> cbx33: that is very cool
[10:20] <msikma> :)
[10:20] <msikma> I've always wondered how you guys do your work.
[10:20] <cbx33> msikma, hehe
[10:20] <msikma> Like, with what software and such
[10:20] <cbx33> the doing the work is easy
[10:20] <cbx33> it's the coming up with it in the first place that's hard
[10:21] <cbx33> msikma, it's all ubuntu software :p
[10:21] <msikma> Hmm...
[10:21] <cbx33> I'll show you sometime :p
[10:21] <msikma> That PNG looks a lot brighter than in Photoshop
[10:21] <fschoep> msikma: looking good, you did that all on your own?
[10:21] <msikma> Awesome, cbx33!
[10:21] <fschoep> I mean: is it a theme or pixel pushing?
[10:21] <msikma> Oh, I used the window edges from a theme someone made called Chiro, but edited it a little. The rest is a Photoshop mock-up.
[10:22] <fschoep> I see :) I thought you had just surpassed my theme editing skills yet.
[10:22] <msikma> Hmm... why is it showing up so bright in the browser, though? That's kind of odd.
[10:22] <msikma> Hehe, I wish
[10:22] <fschoep> It doesn't look bright here though.
[10:23] <fschoep> The progress bar blends in perfectly with the radio and checkboxes.
[10:23] <msikma> Thanks. I'm glad you like it thus far. Now to get that other drop down menu working...
[10:24] <msikma> A JPEG with ICC profile embedded is slightly darker, but still not the same as in Photoshop. http://www.gamingw.net/pubaccess/28695/themewsjpg.jpg
[10:24] <fschoep> "That other drop down menu"?
[10:24] <msikma> Er
[10:24] <msikma> GtkCombo
[10:24] <msikma> To the left
[10:24] <fschoep> Ah, I see.
[10:25] <fschoep> Did you also round the buttons a bit more?
[10:25] <msikma> I'm also considering making the slide bars in the middle (above "Move In Harmony") orange, at least to see how they look like.
[10:25] <msikma> Yeah, with a radius of one or two pixels more round.
[10:25] <fschoep> Looks awesome.
[10:25] <msikma> The shadow is also slightly larger.
[10:25] <cbx33> fschoep, you got a sec in pm?
[10:25] <msikma> I'm going to try and round the window theme...
[10:25] <fschoep> cbx33: sure, didn't notice :)
[10:25] <msikma> Might look better, and it seems there's consensus that it should be round anyway
[10:25] <fschoep> msikma: Try "outdoors" in dapper, looks great.
[10:26] <fschoep> Even without antialiasing it conveys the spirit of Ubuntu I think.
[10:26] <msikma> Yeah, it uses the SmoothEngine, or something, right?
[10:26] <fschoep> I'm not sure yet, I just choose "Outdoors" as the window border and it works nicely.
[10:26] <msikma> Oh, I guess I'll have another look at it, then.
[10:27] <msikma> My laptop is currently encoding video without X loaded.
[10:27] <msikma> So I'll check later.
[10:27] <fschoep> OK, I'm sure you'll come to like it.
[10:40] <fschoep> I scared him away.
[10:41] <fschoep> :)
[10:41] <fschoep> Before I do any more damage I'll be leaving now, talk to you soon. Good night everyone.
[11:02] <msikma> bwaha