[01:38] <johnlittle> yo
[01:42] <nixternal> hey johnlittle
[01:42] <johnlittle> thanks for the digg
[01:42] <nixternal> i really enjoy the blog page you did with the video stuff...excellent!
[01:42] <nixternal> no problem, it was well worth it
[01:42] <johnlittle> Thanks..wish I had time to do more..but it's a start
[01:42] <nixternal> ya, but a darn good start!
[01:43] <johnlittle> I hope it inspires a few people to make more videos
[01:44] <nixternal> hopefully it will, and maybe some pimpage on the fridge if possible
[01:45] <johnlittle> Ohh pimpage is good. That reminds me. I need to link the fridge
[01:45] <nixternal> i can see the potential for http://www.ubuntuvideo.com/ to get absorbed somehow into the community...as it is good stuff
[01:48] <johnlittle> I'm open to that. Whatever works. I'd really like to see some create a series of official videos. I think that should be part of the marketing effort.
[01:48] <johnlittle> see some = see someone
[01:51] <Burgundavia> whiprush: you around?
[01:55] <johnlittle> I linked your blog as well nix. Feel free to suggest good ubuntu blogs of links for the site. I can add more.
[02:01] <nixternal> anybody on planet.ubuntu.com, universe,kubuntu.de and such..there are some good blogs there
[02:03] <johnlittle> Yeah I'll have to surf around. I;m reading Planet Ubuntu now
[02:11] <Burgundavia> johnlittle: there is a great deal of interest in video creation
[02:11] <Burgundavia> there was a comment on -ca over the last few days
[02:12] <johnlittle> That's good to hear. I've been pushing ubuntu on my political blog for quite some time (most of my readers dont care but..) and it's the videos that finally got some of them to switch,
[02:13] <johnlittle> Just talking about linux is too abstract for most people...videos cut through a lot of that
[03:41] <johnlittle> Very cool idea: http://moosy.blogspot.com/2005/05/powered-by-suse-linux-hot.html
[03:41] <johnlittle> Probably not worth spending money on (unless you're novell) but cool
[03:44] <nixternal> heh, that is cool
[03:44] <Burgundavia> I believe jenda did some stickers
[03:45] <nixternal> ya, but those are to replace the "Made for Windows XP" or whatever stickers
[03:45] <nixternal> give me a bunch of those, and i will have fun at CompUSA ;)
[03:54] <johnlittle> lol
[03:55] <nixternal> i already replaced the default home pages on the "CompUSA" network in Schaumburg Illinois to point at http://www.ubuntu.com
[03:55] <nixternal> it has been their default page now for almost 2 or 3 weeks
[03:56] <johnlittle> They probably don't now how to change it back
[03:56] <johnlittle> know
[03:56] <nixternal> thats what they get for allowing me access to their super secure Microsoft AD with Group Policies that don't work
[03:56] <nixternal> they work now however, cuz i fixed it...as a customer ;)
[03:56] <johnlittle> Bill them
[03:56] <nixternal> lol, i should
[03:57] <nixternal> however, i don't think my access was legal truthfully
[03:57] <Burgundavia> almost certainly not
[03:57] <nixternal> i didn't do damage at all..i made their policy work
[03:57] <Burgundavia> regardless, courts have generally not been favourable to those who do stupid stuff, even if it wasn't malicious
[03:57] <rjian> Hello people
[03:58] <johnlittle> hiya
[03:58] <nixternal> thats the truth ;)
[03:58] <Burgundavia> where is jenda again?
[03:58] <nixternal> i used to work for CompUSA as Tech VP a few years back...they could care less as it is..as they are slowly sinking away
[03:58] <rjian> hello Burgundavia
[03:59] <Burgundavia> nixternal: as in Technical Vice President?
[03:59] <nixternal> jenda is on a sabatical i think...he is out of town work related
[03:59] <nixternal> something similar yes Burgundavia...actually it is the Technical Department Vice Prez
[03:59] <nixternal> i had the midwest operations
[04:00] <nixternal> my business card says...
[04:00] <nixternal> Richard A. Johnson
[04:00] <nixternal> Midwest Operations
[04:00] <rjian> Hello Nixternal
[04:00] <nixternal> Technical Division, Vice President
[04:00] <nixternal> hi rjian
[04:00] <nixternal> that was a cool job
[04:01] <johnlittle> Get it baxk so you can secretly install ubuntu on all outgoing pcs
[04:01] <rjian> Nixternal: ur a Yechinical Division Vice President?
[04:01] <nixternal> i was
[04:01] <nixternal> now im a Ubuntu Hippy ;)
[04:02] <rjian> Nixternal: hmm really im also a beginners user on ubuntu
[04:02] <nixternal> funny thing i noticed though..is i left there in 2003/2004...and i don't see Linux at all on their shelves anymore
[04:02] <johnlittle> lol i mentioned ubuntu a couple of weeks ago and a guy called me a hippy
[04:02] <johnlittle> No linux at best buy either
[04:03] <nixternal> however, there are pics from Ubuntu Chicago placing Ubuntu CDs next to the MS Windows OS boxes on various store shelves
[04:03] <nixternal> we got Circuit City, Best Buy, CompUSA, and some other small shops
[04:03] <nixternal> Fry's sells Linspire at least
[04:03] <johnlittle> What we need is a CD in a plastic sleeve with a peel and stick backing..so people can attach them to magazine covers at barnes and noble
[04:04] <nixternal> people loved it that worked there, and promised to hand out Ubuntu CDs for us to customers
[04:04] <Burgundavia> johnlittle: that might be construed as vandalism
[04:04] <nixternal> actually, that is a job of the marketing team, as Ubuntu Australia LoCo has already been getting CDs added to magazines
[04:05] <johnlittle> Yeah..to clarify I was joking
[04:05] <nixternal> all the team has to do is email the magazine with info on downloading the cd, and getting the magazine interested in it
[04:06] <nixternal> ya Burgundavia is right there...we made sure it was alright for management that we did that
[04:06] <nixternal> Best Buy was the only place that wouldn't allow the CDs to stay, but didn't mind us taking pictures, as long as you couldn't tell it was Best Buy
[04:07] <nixternal> we did label the "GeekSquad" car with stickers though ;)
[04:07] <nixternal> that was deserving, i don't care who says it was wrong ;)
[04:07] <nixternal> so if you are in the Naperville, IL area and see a Geek Squad beetle, look on the back licence plate cover for the Ubuntu sticker
[04:07] <johnlittle> lol
[04:08] <nixternal> out little stunts however got over 100 people at the last Linux Install Fest at the College of DuPage this week
[04:08] <johnlittle> thats the thing about stickers...never know where they'll wind up
[04:08] <nixternal> s/out/our
[04:08] <johnlittle> thats an impressive turnout
[04:09] <nixternal> heh, you know how bands put their stickers on the taco bell, mcdonalds and what not drive through speakers?
[04:09] <nixternal> we did that as well
[04:09] <nixternal> ya it is impressive, considering there is usually 10 to 20 people at most ever show up
[04:09] <nixternal> I gave away a total of 120 CDs i think
[04:09] <johnlittle> any women show uo?
[04:09] <johnlittle> up
[04:10] <nixternal> actually, we had about 15 women total
[04:10] <nixternal> 3 or 4 were professors iirc
[04:11] <johnlittle> thats better than none
[04:11] <nixternal> ya, i actually found out via my x-wife about chicago having a "Linux Chix" club
[04:11] <nixternal> my x is in Linux Chix Washington, DC
[04:12] <nixternal> or is a Linux Chix
[04:12] <nixternal> i can't remember how that goes exactly
[04:13] <johnlittle> I think it'd be really cool to have a linux video series with a young female hostess...the typical linux is supposed to be the comic book guy fromt he simpsons
[04:13] <johnlittle> typical linux user
[04:13] <nixternal> hehe
[04:15] <nixternal> time for some Ice Cream!!!
[04:15] <nixternal> bbiaf
[04:15] <johnlittle> ubuntu has already made progress in addressing all the stereotypes
[04:15] <johnlittle> enjoy
[04:18] <johnlittle> Nice to see Ubuntu World leading the fridge poll
[04:21] <johnlittle> Does anyone know how the Ubuntu magazine will be produced - funded - dsitributed? I haven't seen much on the mechanics
[04:21] <johnlittle> Distributed
[04:22] <Burgundavia> no, nothing
[04:22] <Burgundavia> there isn't even any content
[04:24] <johnlittle> Producing a magaine..and getting it into stores..is costly and difficult
[04:24] <rjian> Burgundavia: Im planning to have a publication on our organization on school maybe ill be putting also there some Ubuntu News or something... hehe
[04:24] <johnlittle> man..i can't type tonight
[04:29] <Burgundavia> rjian: if you have anything, the fridge is always a good place as well
[04:30] <nixternal> interesting..jdub is doin' the moin thing
[04:30] <Burgundavia> nixternal: moin thing?
[04:30] <nixternal> #moin
[04:30] <nixternal> didn't see him join anywhere else
[04:31] <nixternal> actually..i haven't seen him online in a while
[04:31] <Burgundavia> nixternal: he is blinking in an out on #gnome-hackers and -devel as well
[04:31] <nixternal> figures gnome-hackers ;)
[04:33] <johnlittle> You got me thinking about icecream now nix
[04:33] <nixternal> it was good
[04:34] <johnlittle> Time to hit the coffee shop down the street for some pistachio ice cream
[04:36] <nixternal> ooh..i love pistachio ice cream
[04:43] <johnlittle> it's pretty tasty :)
[04:51] <johnlittle> I'm reading the Ubuntu Magazine charter - is it purely an online initiative?
[04:53] <johnlittle> I was thinking print but it appears to be a website
[05:02] <nixternal> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue8
[05:08] <johnlittle> The Xubuntu artwork for edgy is looking sweet
[05:09] <johnlittle> nice job on the newsletter
[05:11] <nixternal> thank you, and thanks big time to Burgundavia and Jonathan Riddell!!!
[05:18] <johnlittle> I tweaked the "get Ubuntu" page to include some of those links
[05:18] <johnlittle> http://www.ubuntuvideo.com/get-ubuntu/
[05:18] <johnlittle> ahh think I will add planet ubuntu to the community links
[05:19] <rjian> wats the site about?
[05:19] <johnlittle> the one I linked?
[05:20] <rjian> yup
[05:20] <johnlittle> Ubuntu Video is a portal that collects interesting (I hope) ubuntu user videos
[05:20] <johnlittle> tutorials, demos, and stuff
[05:20] <rjian> wow nice design
[05:20] <rjian> ehhe
[05:20] <rjian> u make it?
[05:21] <johnlittle> Yeah - can't take much credit for the design - its a tweaked wordpress blog template
[05:22] <rjian> ah.. ok a blog templates hmm nice one
[05:22] <johnlittle> Only a few hours worth of design and code changes..pretty minor
[05:23] <rjian> yeah i also match the ubuntu site
[05:23] <rjian> :)
[05:27] <johnlittle> on your blog?
[05:30] <rjian> i mean ur blog also match on ubuntu website
[05:31] <johnlittle> I originally wanted to match it completely but figured that would probably make someone unhappy and I didn't want people to mistake it for something official
[05:33] <rjian> buts its a nice attractive website or a blog u have
[05:33] <Burgundavia> johnlittle: are you doing help videos?
[05:34] <johnlittle> rijan: thanks
[05:34] <johnlittle> Burgundavia" producing them myself? No. I going to stick to encouraging others to make them.,
[05:35] <nixternal> lol
[05:36] <Burgundavia> johnlittle: can you join #ubuntu-doc?
[05:36] <johnlittle> I can manage Ubuntu Video pretty easily but I'm not a video wiz and have a ton of other projects working right now.
[05:37] <johnlittle> I'm there
[05:39] <rjian> Burgundavia: can i also join?
[05:39] <Burgundavia> rjian: of course. all channels are open
[06:34] <johnlittle> wb
[06:36] <rjian> hello johnlittle
[07:42] <elkbuntu> who killed teh wiki?
[08:13] <johnlittle> Wiki si working
[08:13] <johnlittle> is
[08:18] <nixternal_> not any more ;)
[09:00] <adamant1988> hey all
[09:06] <johnlittle> Hi
[09:08] <adamant1988> sorry I haven't been about much guys, I've been pretty busy with work and all
[09:09] <johnlittle> I think everyone struggles with that
[09:09] <johnlittle> phone..bbiaf
[09:41] <elkbuntu> ompaul, ping
[09:41] <ompaul> morning
[09:43] <elkbuntu> you think i should create MarketingTeam/Research on the wiki and move the survey scope to that page, so research in general has a hub?
[09:43] <elkbuntu> s/to that page/to be under that page/
[09:45] <ompaul> I have a huge issue with market research - it is supposed to define a product
[09:45] <ompaul> we have a product - it is shiney
[09:45] <ompaul> we need marketing materials - stuff that informs people about what we have
[09:45] <ompaul> we have a wiget in search of a market
[09:46] <elkbuntu> we need to know what the marketing tool should pimp most
[09:46] <ompaul> now elkbuntu if you were beside me I would pour you a cup of tea - that is brilliant
[09:47] <elkbuntu> hehe
[09:47] <ompaul> that would be what I would call an end game
[09:47] <ompaul> in saying that, reading that comment last evening on the mailing list
[09:48] <elkbuntu> thats one of the priorities of the surveys though, finding what bits we should put under neon lights, as well as gather data that could be useful to not only us, other teams as well
[09:52] <ompaul> sorry but as you know someone here is getting on a plane soon last minute - please do jobs list -
[09:52] <ompaul> :-)
[09:53] <ompaul> the comment about get it through on the third attempt
[09:53] <ompaul> it is placing ubuntu in that space that will make the difference :)
[09:54] <ompaul> anyway I must be off
[09:54] <elkbuntu> ok, have fun wherever you're going
[10:03] <johnlittle> back..sorta
[11:41] <ompaul> traffic light, rain light, petrol up two cent on Friday
[11:42] <ompaul> 1.219 euros per litre
[11:42] <ompaul> enough already :)
[03:24] <Ckenyo1> Afternoon all
[06:12] <johnlittle> morning
[06:55] <adamant1988> hello everyone
[07:08] <johnlittle> Hi
[07:09] <troy_s> do you guys have any pamplets in the work?
[07:09] <troy_s> s/work/works
[07:11] <adamant1988> we could... I've ben so absorbed with my own pet projects lately that I haven't been doing much for the whole team
[07:12] <troy_s> has there been any development discussed on the list / group?
[07:13] <adamant1988> I haven't checked
[07:13] <adamant1988> I can look
[07:13] <adamant1988> I'm looking for pamphlet info?
[07:14] <troy_s> what i was looking for was some discussion on a cheap marketing brocure
[07:14] <troy_s> mainly focusing on what ubuntu can do out of the box
[07:14] <troy_s> as compared to commercial operating systems.
[07:14] <troy_s> brief -- easily scannable -- flashy looking brochure
[07:15] <troy_s> something that could be folded or used as a free take home sheet on a counter
[07:15] <adamant1988> I have determined through my own experience that pushing Ubuntu is requiring pushing ogg so that people see less out of the box incompatibility...
[07:15] <troy_s> next to a pile of disks...
[07:15] <adamant1988> If there's not one, do you know where I can get pamphlet templates for OOo
[07:15] <troy_s> not so much pushing ogg, but perhaps something like 'archive your entire music cd into lossless form' etc.
[07:15] <troy_s> no idea.
[07:16] <troy_s> full featured word processing, spreadsheet, etc.
[07:16] <troy_s> it would be lovely if we had something like that.
[07:16] <adamant1988> yeah, and that's followed by the end user going 'huh?'
[07:17] <adamant1988> that might do well for an enthusiast, but I didn't have a clue or care what lossless formats were before Linux.
[07:17] <adamant1988> most people I've talked to are the same
[07:18] <adamant1988> right now I have a decent little setup here.  I'm doing Ubuntu hardware tests and installations for $5 ($3.00 is for the Ubuntu disk that I give them, I donate it).
[07:19] <adamant1988> I also make sure they know that for a little over $10 a month they can get full call-center support for Ubuntu.  and I direct them on how to sign up for that
[07:20] <troy_s> um... hardly.
[07:20] <troy_s> creating a music library is the feature.
[07:20] <troy_s> and about 99% of the folks with a computer know that... etc
[07:21] <nixternal> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing
[07:21] <adamant1988> then that 1 last percent is mighty big.  People I talk to know how to create a music library, but they don't care about the format that much... as long as it works on their mp3 players.
[07:21] <troy_s> basically, all of the things one can do with a default installed ubuntu box without any further addition.
[07:21] <nixternal> pamphlets, flyers you name it there
[07:22] <adamant1988> so nixternal... how are you?
[07:22] <nixternal> busy ;)
[07:22] <adamant1988> things are coming to fruit here... I've done 10 installations in the last week :)
[07:22] <nixternal> nice
[07:22] <adamant1988> I haven't even set up the floor space, this is grass roots advertising right here.
[07:23] <troy_s> adamant1988:  done about 100 installs here.  it is pretty easy amongst peers if you refuse to support ms/apple.
[07:23] <nixternal> i have done a couple of lectures in the past week or 2, gave a class yesterday on Konversation, giving a class tonight on the same thing as well
[07:23] <troy_s> they tend to go to the easiest support class :)
[07:24] <adamant1988> oh yeah?
[07:24] <nixternal> working on "Switching from Windows" guide, forums to wiki stuff, documentation stuff, I am somewhat in charge of the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, doing the Fridge now
[07:24] <adamant1988> I'm doing the tell your friends reward system
[07:24] <nixternal> it is getting hectic
[07:24] <nixternal> plus doing Edgy Eft Knot Release reports right now for Kubuntu ;)
[07:25] <adamant1988> Basically I'm saving up the money from what they give me and I'm saying "I'll help pay the cost of your commercial support $5 for every person who tells me you helped them switch"
[07:25] <nixternal> have you seen the billboard yet?
[07:25] <adamant1988> It's not a huge chunk but so far it's working enough
[07:25] <adamant1988> No, but Elkins needs one of those :P
[07:25] <nixternal> im working on bartering with the sign company here in Chicago for 5 billboards
[07:25] <nixternal> One will be Ubuntu in general, and then the other 4 will be... 1 for Ubuntu, 1 for Kubuntu, 1 for Edubuntu, and 1 for Xubuntu
[07:26] <nixternal> for 1 month they quoted me $15,000
[07:27] <nixternal> i figure i charge them $150/hour for "service/consulting" i can give them a 100 or so hours
[07:28] <nixternal> for $100,000 he would give me 5 billboards back to back for 1 month at the 4 major entrances into chicago
[07:28] <nixternal> that is a little steep ;)
[07:29] <adamant1988> billboards are expensive...
[07:31] <adamant1988> my methods seem to be working, everyone *wants* commercial support and they'll take any discounts they can get.
[07:31] <johnlittle> any thoughts about letting ubuntu users hit a paypal button and contribute to a marketing fund?
[07:31] <nixternal> can't do that
[07:31] <adamant1988> I think the goal is to be 0 cost, so can't be done
[07:31] <nixternal> you can contribute to the Ubuntu foundation though ;)
[07:32] <nixternal> i will barter 100 hours of my time easily for 5 billboards!
[07:32] <johnlittle> Thats a good deal
[07:32] <nixternal> you best believe my contact info will be on the bottom of that sign as well ;)
[07:32] <adamant1988> yeah if you can get $150 hr/ where you live
[07:32] <nixternal> i have charged more then $200/hr in the past
[07:33] <adamant1988> if you can do that I wouldn't stop after the the  billboards are payed off
[07:33] <adamant1988> I would kill to make that much 0_0
[07:33] <nixternal> most consultants tend to charge between $250 and $500 an hour now a days
[07:33] <adamant1988> how did you get to be a 'consultant'?
[07:33] <nixternal> i made myself one ;)
[07:33] <adamant1988> lol, did that require any certifications?
[07:33] <johnlittle> Same here..once you establish contacts it gets easier.
[07:34] <nixternal> anyone can be a consultant, as they are as useless as salesman..however consultant sounds better to most suits
[07:34] <nixternal> i have certifications, and all my clients know about them. they know about my degree(s) as well...but that has nothing to do with being a consultant
[07:34] <adamant1988> uh huh
[07:34] <nixternal> just a proven track record really
[07:34] <adamant1988> Well, so you 'sell' people what? ubuntu?
[07:35] <johnlittle> Yep..never had a client ask about qualifications. Their usually familiar with y work in other ways.
[07:35] <nixternal> i sell them my services...networking/systems admin, network design/implementation and such
[07:35] <adamant1988> Aha.  That's what I was trying to get at
[07:35] <nixternal> mostly deal with Cisco and Foundry products, and i do various server installs, i try to promote nokia/checkpoint packages for firewalls and such
[07:36] <adamant1988> I'm not much for doing the actual building of things, but I love to design lol.
[07:36] <nixternal> and i also sell services i could never provide myself, however i have friends in low places; )
[07:36] <adamant1988> uh huh.
[07:36] <johnlittle> I used to do quite a bit of tech consulting but now it's almost all marketing - much easier :)
[07:37] <adamant1988> Well, I'm more of a marketing, management, and accounting person.
[07:37] <nixternal> i can't do web pages and graphics, but i know people who can...if possible i will charge about $100/hr for those services, and split 50/50 with the person doing the work, or will even do 75 them/25 me if it is big work
[07:37] <johnlittle> My accounting skills are limited to calling customers and saying "Send that check yet?"
[07:37] <nixternal> rofl
[07:37] <adamant1988> Lol, I got called a software uber-capitalist last night.
[07:38] <nixternal> i got called an idiot, does that count?
[07:38] <adamant1988> mines just as bad :P
[07:38] <adamant1988> Is it wrong to think people should be paying each other for things?
[07:39] <johnlittle> my first comment on ubuntuvideo just came in...slapping me around for using flash..i guess I shoud have expected that
[07:39] <nixternal> if a client purchases hardware/software through me, they get pretty close to free support
[07:39] <adamant1988> if a product or service is provided that meets a need, then obviously there will need to be payment to cover expenses and make a profit =\
[07:39] <nixternal> ya johnlittle, i thought we slapped you around a little last night for the flash stuff ;)
[07:39] <johnlittle> not much i can do about it..go slap google and youtube :p
[07:40] <nixternal> hehe
[07:40] <nixternal> johnlittle: your little plan here, could lead to a "Google" or "youTube" clone, but for LINUX!!!
[07:40] <nixternal> making you a millionaire!
[07:40] <nixternal> lol
[07:40] <adamant1988> I think Ubuntu is heading the direction of CNR with it's commercial REPO.... I'm excited
[07:41] <nixternal> no flash, all FOSS/FLOSS...using like OGG and what not
[07:41] <johnlittle> An open source clone would be sweet
[07:41] <adamant1988> "if you build it, they will come"
[07:41] <nixternal> yup
[07:41] <nixternal> OpenTV
[07:41] <nixternal> there you go, get to work!
[07:42] <johnlittle> im the discussion sparker - you can be the do-er :)
[07:42] <adamant1988> Open source TV, so your kids can see violence AND get the source code for it :P
[07:42] <johnlittle> lol
[07:42] <nixternal> i cna't do no more currently, my plate is full
[07:42] <nixternal> haha adamant1988
[07:42] <johnlittle> yeah same boat - day job, clients, and my other projects
[07:43] <adamant1988> I'm pretty busy with my home grown projects
[07:43] <adamant1988> I have 100 Ubuntu CDs coming in the mail...
[07:43] <adamant1988> I also have a fedora disk coming, because I support red-hat even though they abandoned us desktop users
[07:43] <nixternal> heh, i have more coming i hope
[07:43] <nixternal> im almost out
[07:43] <nixternal> 1000 cds in less then 2 weeks
[07:44] <johnlittle> damn dude
[07:44] <nixternal> i am slowly getting emails in from people i have given them too
[07:44] <johnlittle> you are worse than aol
[07:44] <nixternal> lol
[07:44] <adamant1988> I wouldn't know what to do with that many disk... that is 1/9th of my towns population lol
[07:44] <nixternal> i am the aol of ubuntu right now
[07:44] <nixternal> CompUSA put an Ubuntu Display at their registers for me in Schaumburg, IL
[07:44] <johnlittle> nice
[07:45] <adamant1988> I'm talking to the local wal-mart to offer users an Ubuntu disk when they buy a PC
[07:45] <nixternal> the crappy part though, is that they said I couldn't attach a business card to them
[07:45] <adamant1988> since they refused to get linux ready computers
[07:45] <johnlittle> too bad there are hardly an independent pc shops anymore...those would be great targets
[07:45] <johnlittle> an=any
[07:45] <adamant1988> yeah it was pretty funny
[07:45] <nixternal> shower time!
[07:45] <adamant1988> some friends and I had the majority of Wal-Mart managment talking to us
[07:46] <adamant1988> We went in and were like "We need to buy 6 of this (most expensive computer model)" for a demo center and wifi-cafe we're setting up
[07:46] <adamant1988> But we don't want windows on them, we don't want to be charged for something we're not going to use
[07:47] <adamant1988> So the electronics person was dumbfounded.  called in a CSO and wash-rinse-repeat... by the time we were done we actually had the manager of wal-mart talking to us
[07:50] <adamant1988> they didn't give us the computers with windows removed, and they said there weren't any linux-preinstalled models available for them to put in the store right at the moment.   But there weren't happy about losing out on a 6,000+ dollar sale lol.
[09:13] <johnlittle> Interesting 42% of visitors to Ubuntu Video are running XP
[09:14] <adamant1988> ubuntu is getting to the point that it is synonymous with linux.
[09:14] <adamant1988> there is an interest in it
[09:17] <johnlittle> http://www.google.com/trends?q=ubuntu%2C+vista%2C+osx&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all
[09:18] <johnlittle> http://www.google.com/trends?q=ubuntu%2C+suse%2C+redhat%2C+mandriva&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all
[09:20] <adamant1988> I've seen those.