[12:01] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul & Jack_Sparrow i think its disk-free
[12:01] <sparkleytone> could be wrong tho
[12:01] <Jack_Sparrow> MAkes sense..
[12:01] <eleazar123> sparkleytone, i mounted it to /tmp/test, so the actual cmd i typed is...' sudo chroot /tmp/test/ /bin/bash', so sdc4 is mounted to /tmp/test.
[12:02] <nicholaspaul> sparkleytone: oh. How do i copy the bootsector?
[12:02] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: that's the dd command i gave you...scroll up
[12:02] <sparkleytone> eleazar123: are you sure there is a full ubuntu install on /dev/sdc4 ?
[12:03] <nicholaspaul> sparkleytone: aaaaahhh! so does that copy jsut the boot sector, or the whole shabang again?
[12:03] <Jack_Sparrow> How about sudo grub -setup
[12:03] <eleazar123> sparkleytone, yes, when i 'ls /tmp/test' i get this 'bin,boot,cdrom,dev,etc,home,initrd,initrd.img,lib,lost+found,media,mnt,opt,proc,root,sbin,srv,sys,tmp,usr,var,vmlinuz'
[12:04] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: count=1 means it only copies one 512byte sector
[12:04] <EpP> my hd is almost full... how can i make some space?
[12:04] <nu> !nvidia
[12:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:04] <ccereceda> help me please
[12:04] <sparkleytone> eleazar123: do an 'sudo find /tmp/test -name bash'
[12:04] <sparkleytone> ccereceda: don't ask for help...ask your question ;)
[12:05] <nicholaspaul> EpP: hehe thats exactly what i'm doing ! I got a new HD and copied the old system over. Now i'm tyring (or trying) to install grub.
[12:05] <nicholaspaul> sparkleytone: gotcha.
[12:05] <ccereceda> drums in ubuntu...i cant stop that
[12:05] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul & EpP: another, sometimes better way is to just add a new hard drive wherever you need space
[12:05] <EpP> nicholaspaul, yeah my hd is only 6 gigs... im aobut out of pace.
[12:05] <Rambo3> you need to add new harddrive to the devices.map
[12:05] <jon_> how can i tell if i have python installed?
[12:05] <tuxtux> ciao
[12:06] <eleazar123> sparkleytone, i'm going to try remounting it, ho would i go about unmounting it? i thought it was umount /tmp/test, but it said 'it seems /tmp/test is mounted multiple times'
[12:06] <EpP> sparkleytone, yeah i need to... but whats a way to free some space until then?
[12:06] <ColdDeath> jon_: run python on the terminal
[12:06] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul & EpP: instead of replacing your root, you can find what is taking up the space...format the new drive and cp -af the directory contents...then mount the new drive with that directory as the mountpoint
[12:06] <Jack_Sparrow> nicholaspaul: there is a super grub repair disk you can boot and it fixes most things for you
[12:06] <wubrgamer> hey guys
[12:06] <jon_> ./python?
[12:06] <ColdDeath> just python
[12:06] <sparkleytone> eleazar123: what does 'mount' return?
[12:06] <wubrgamer> i installed the official ati drivers from the ubuntu REPOSITIORIES ! (so it should be working alright now ? shouldn't it ?) but alas
[12:06] <ColdDeath> It shoudl show the interpretor
[12:07] <sparkleytone> eleazar123: in context to sdc?
[12:07] <wubrgamer> i have ONE
[12:07] <wubrgamer> only one issue
[12:07] <jon_> cool
[12:07] <jon_> 2.4
[12:07] <ColdDeath> nice :)
[12:07] <sparkleytone> ccereceda: drums?
[12:07] <jon_> how do i install pyslsk?
[12:07] <ccereceda> I cant stop the drums
[12:07] <EpP> sparkleytone, its a laptop... only one drive... and i dont have the money now. So how can i free some space on the spot?
[12:07] <wubrgamer> i can't change the virtual terminals, and if i change to cntrl-alt-f1, i get a black screen, and cannot change back to cntrl-alt-f7
[12:07] <eleazar123> sparkleytone, it returns '/dev/sdc4 on /tmp/test type ext3 (rw)'
[12:07] <wubrgamer> so i have to do a hard reboot
[12:07] <wubrgamer> any ideas ?
[12:07] <ColdDeath> try: sudo apt-get install python-pyslsk
[12:08] <sparkleytone> EpP: you can try rm -rf /tmp/*
[12:08] <sparkleytone> EpP: may or may not free up some stuff
[12:08] <jon_> invalid syntax
[12:08] <sparkleytone> EpP: how much ram do you have?
[12:08] <EpP> sparkleytone, 512 + 64.
[12:08] <starscream[2] > hmmm can anyone help, I installed ubuntu but installed LILO instead of Grub, when linux boots I get the error Can't access TTY; job control turned off?
[12:09] <Thanatos_> Please...I just upgraded to Dapper, and now, when I boot up, it runs gdm and automatically logs me in, but instead of a desktop, it is just a terminal window, can someone help me out?
[12:09] <sparkleytone> eleazar123: looks fine...no point in remounting
[12:09] <Jack_Sparrow> nicholaspaul: super grub repair livecd  bottom rithg corner of that page  http://adrian15.raulete.net/grub/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=1&comments_parentId=9
[12:09] <noname> oi
[12:09] <crafton> wubrgamer: have you been guided with any doc?
[12:09] <Rambo3> i bet you didt install anything .
[12:09] <inono> Seveas, any ideas?
[12:09] <ColdDeath> jon_:  I'm not familiar with pyslsk and I can;t find it in the repositories
[12:09] <Mora> Okay.. Can anyone tell me at what point /var/run is overmounted with a tmpfs?
[12:09] <wubrgamer> yes
[12:09] <eleazar123> sparkleytone, well something is wrong i think b/c before when i did ls it gave all those directories i showed you, but now it's giving entirely different stuff
[12:10] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : Same advice I just gave nicholaspaul
[12:10] <sparkleytone> eleazar123: umount it and mount it somewhere else outside of /tmp
[12:10] <sparkleytone> eleazar123: umount /dev/sdc4
[12:10] <crafton> wurbgamer can you paste the url
[12:10] <eleazar123> sparkleytone, ok, i'm rebooting now, because it wouldn't let me umount it
[12:10] <Mora> Since it seems that boot scripts are trying to mount it before /var is ever mounted.
[12:10] <sparkleytone> eleazar123: nah
[12:10] <sparkleytone> eleazar123: just umount the device not the location
[12:11] <eleazar123> sparkleytone, i tried that and it said 'device is busy' :\
[12:11] <Qwell> Is there a more "proper" place to get sparc help with ubuntu?
[12:11] <sparkleytone> eleazar123: well...get out of /tmp/test ;)
[12:11] <jon_> if i get it off a site, should i dl the source, source RPM package, or the binary RPM package?
[12:11] <sparkleytone> eleazar123: cd ~ or anywhere
[12:11] <Hellavator> is it ok to use packages from edgy on dapper?
[12:11] <crimsun> Hellavator: no.
[12:11] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow: I got a database error on that site
[12:11] <Jack_Sparrow> jon_: DEB's
[12:11] <sparkleytone> Hellavator: sometimes, sometimes not
[12:11] <wubrgamer> crafton yes
[12:11] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : but the links at the bottom right are still good
[12:12] <jon_> Jack_Sparrow: what?
[12:12] <sparkleytone> Hellavator: you'd be better suited using pure debian repos as opposed to other ubuntu repos
[12:12] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : pick whichever one is best, zip for xp iso or tar etc
[12:12] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow> the bottom right file links look good
[12:12] <eternaljoy> does Dapper come with a Web Browser?
[12:12] <Jack_Sparrow> FIrefox
[12:12] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow> what will I need to do with the file? Burn it? ISO?
[12:12] <NickGarvey> Hellavator, although it is NOT a good idea to use debian binaries under ubuntu
[12:13] <NickGarvey> eternaljoy, and yes of course
[12:13] <eternaljoy> whats a webbrowser other than firefox for Dapper thats good?
[12:13] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : are you in linux or xp
[12:13] <eternaljoy> NickaNicka: how I load it?
[12:13] <eternaljoy> NickGarvey:  how I load it?
[12:13] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow> btw I have only just installed and this is on first boot with CD where installation should continue
[12:13] <NickGarvey> eternaljoy, um.. hm.. applictions > internet > firefox
[12:13] <sparkleytone> eternaljoy: konqueror is good.  opera is nice too.
[12:13] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow> on a windoze box at the moment, my linux machine is separate
[12:13] <Hellavator> thanks
[12:13] <fork> Whats the difference between debian and ubuntu, besides the graphical installer?
[12:13] <NickGarvey> eternaljoy, or, hit "alt + f2" and then type firefox
[12:14] <NickGarvey> fork, um, a lot of things.. I would google it..
[12:14] <Jack_Sparrow> get the zip and also google isorecorder for xp it is free and great tool
[12:14] <sparkleytone> fork: your name is an appropriate answer ;)
[12:14] <NickGarvey> fork, http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship
[12:14] <eternaljoy> sparkleytone: bash: konqueror: command not found
[12:14] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : lets youright click an iso and send directly to the burner
[12:14] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow> do i need to burn the image to CD?
[12:14] <sparkleytone> eternaljoy: you'd have to install kde stuff
[12:14] <eternaljoy> NickGarvey: pls LISTEN this time :P  does Dapper come with a Web Browser?  If so, whats it called?
[12:14] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : But back to the problem... first boot..?
[12:14] <sparkleytone> eternaljoy: it came with firefox
[12:14] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : still running live?
[12:15] <sparkleytone> eternaljoy: does firefox-bin not run?
[12:15] <NickGarvey> eternaljoy, I told you..
[12:15] <NickGarvey> eternaljoy, <NickGarvey> eternaljoy, and yes of course
[12:15] <eternaljoy> sparkleytone: i installed firefox, but it says: bash: konqueror: command not found
[12:15] <eternaljoy> NickGarvey: whats it called?
[12:15] <NickGarvey> eternaljoy, type firefox instead
[12:15] <Jack_Sparrow> eternaljoy: HOw did you install firefox?
[12:15] <NickGarvey> eternaljoy, firefox...
[12:15] <eternaljoy> NickGarvey: stop trolling man!
[12:15] <NickGarvey> eternaljoy, what are you talking about?!
[12:15] <sparkleytone> eternaljoy: ... they are different things.  if you have firefox installed and you're on the default ubuntu desktop...its the blue icon next to the mail icon
[12:15] <EvilGuru> is Ubuntu able to detect (and use) hard disks over 137Gb even if the BIOS reports them as that size?
[12:16] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow> I have just installed ubtunu 5.10
[12:16] <dr_willis_> EvilGuru,  i think it can.
[12:16] <starscream[2] > JAck_Sparrow> dual boot with windows
[12:16] <noname_mib> i have an external 240gb that works fine
[12:16] <eternaljoy> sparkleytone: I have firefox and java installed, but why does http://www.kickme.to/ say I dont have a java installed?
[12:16] <sparkleytone> EvilGuru: if your mobo IDE controllers aren't ATA-6, then no
[12:16] <FurryNemesis> same'
[12:16] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : where did the install stop.?
[12:16] <sparkleytone> eternaljoy: you need to symlink the java plugin
[12:16] <sparkleytone> !java > eternaljoy
[12:16] <eternaljoy> NickGarvey: does a bare Dapper have any Web Brsower installed?
[12:16] <eleazar123> sparkleytone, i figured out why everything changed, when i run 'sudo mount -o bind /proc/ /mnt/sdc' it gets rid of everything that was in the directory and just puts /proc in there instead, which is why everything changed and why the chroot command wont work
[12:16] <NickGarvey> eternaljoy, YES
[12:16] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow> I have done it before on another machine and didnt have a problem, however i do have a strange order of partitions
[12:16] <NickGarvey> eternaljoy, si, oui
[12:16] <eternaljoy> sparkleytone: how do I symlink the java plugin?
[12:16] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : NOt using sata raid correct?
[12:17] <EvilGuru> sparkleytone: The motherboard has support for ATA-66 if that is what you mean?
[12:17] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow> I got to install grub and it got an error so I installed LILO instead, but I think I installed it to the wrong partition, should I just try from scratch agaon?
[12:17] <eternaljoy> NickGarvey: what web browser does Dapper come with when I install Dapper from CD?
[12:17] <qwerty2k> eternaljoy, easier to use Automatix, it will auto install all firefox plugins for you
[12:17] <sparkleytone> eleazar123: dammit...i'm bad at syntax today.  you need to 'mount -o bind /proc /mnt/sdc/proc'  ... i'm sorry
[12:17] <Renan_s2> eternaljoy, Firefox
[12:17] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow> no not raid however this is a 64bit machine
[12:17] <sparkleytone> EvilGuru: no i mean ATA6
[12:17] <eleazar123> sparkleytone, np :) i'm learning from this as well
[12:17] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : the plot thickens, how are the partitions setup.. If xp isnt #1 on drive 1 then it is a prob
[12:17] <NickGarvey> eternaljoy, firefox for the 4th time
[12:17] <sparkleytone> !java
[12:17] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[12:17] <eternaljoy> qwerty2k: E: Couldn't find package automatix
[12:18] <sparkleytone> eternaljoy: listen to ubotu
[12:18] <NickGarvey> qwerty2k, in general, suggest easyubuntu instead
[12:18] <qwerty2k> eternaljoy, look on ubuntu forums
[12:18] <Qwell> !dapper
[12:18] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[12:18] <eternaljoy> i have 3 Java installed
[12:18] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow> it is not, hda1 = fat32 os share, hda2 ntfs, hda3 swap, hda 4 ext3
[12:18] <nu> !nvidia
[12:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:18] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : that cd searches all partitions for linux and xp and recreates a grub menu for you
[12:18] <sparkleytone> eternaljoy: that's the second time you've received the java info from ubotu...if you keep asking the same question no one will answer
[12:18] <eleazar123> sparkleytone, i typed 'sudo grub-install /dev/sdc' and it gave back 'unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()'
[12:18] <qwerty2k> NickGarvey, i find Automatix installs more programs and it more useful to me
[12:18] <eternaljoy> qwerty2k: where forums?
[12:18] <qwerty2k> eternaljoy, www.ubuntuforums.org
[12:18] <sparkleytone> eleazar123: that's a useless error.  doesn't matter.
[12:18] <Qwell> What exactly is included with the netboot image?  Is it the entire installer?
[12:18] <nu> hey qwerty
[12:19] <qwerty2k> nu hey
[12:19] <emil> Hi guys, i've got an tv-card, works perfect on windows, but how do i install it on Ubuntu
[12:19] <nu> do you play cs? lol
[12:19] <qwerty2k> nu yes
[12:19] <sparkleytone> !forum > eternaljoy
[12:19] <eternaljoy> ok thanks
[12:19] <eleazar123> sparkleytone, so it worked?
[12:19] <nu> LF servers?
[12:19] <Qwell> emil: which card?
[12:19] <sparkleytone> eleazar123: looks like it
[12:19] <qwerty2k> nu occasionally
[12:19] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : Where is your XP... on hda2 ?
[12:19] <eternaljoy> sparkleytone: I have these installed:  1        /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.1
[12:19] <eternaljoy>  +    2        /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java
[12:19] <eternaljoy> *     3        /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java
[12:19] <eleazar123> sparkleytone, ok i'll try rebooting, thanks!
[12:19] <nu> what coincidence lol
[12:19] <nu> ive seen you there
[12:19] <emil> Qwell:  Zolid TV Tuner Xpert TV7134
[12:19] <eternaljoy> sparkleytone: how come none of those 3 java I have installed work with firefox?
[12:19] <Qwell> emil: never heard of it...good luck ;/
[12:19] <qwerty2k> nu, you sure ;), i dont often use qwerty as a name i normally use empyrean :)
[12:19] <sparkleytone> eleazar123: make sure you manually choose that HD...just to take out that as a possible error
[12:20] <eleazar123> sparkleytone, at which step?
[12:20] <nu> qwerty2k: cool. when i play, i play as a little dash: -
[12:20] <jon_> is mldonkey good?
[12:20] <sparkleytone> eleazar123: you can probably press f12 or something on boot to choose the boot device
[12:20] <qwerty2k> nu,  :)
[12:20] <sparkleytone> eleazar123: in your bios
[12:20] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, yes XP is on hda2
[12:20] <nu> brb. installing nvidia driver
[12:20] <eleazar123> sparkleytone, ohh i see what you mean, yeah it's defaulted to boot to sdc
[12:20] <Mora> Does anyone know if /var must reside on a root partition? I have it moved on to another one, and it seems that bootup scripts try mounting /var/run before /var is mounted
[12:21] <eleazar123> sparkleytone, it's still giving the same error :( thanks for your help, unfortunately i have to go now, i'll be back later to try and fix it more :)
[12:21] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : I would try super grub, but XP is rather fussy...
[12:21] <sparkleytone> eternaljoy: you've received more than enough help.  go help yourself, as we have given you all the tools you need.
[12:21] <boga> Firefox crashes on me quite a lot. What is the problem?
[12:21] <sparkleytone> !java > eternaljoy
[12:21] <sparkleytone> one last time
[12:21] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : so get the iso and get the isorecorder burn a disk boot and let it run through all the combinations
[12:21] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow> but XP seems to be working fine, I even added an ubuntu.bin file to the C drive and used the NTFS bootloader
[12:21] <NickGarvey> boga, running the most recent version?
[12:21] <qwerty2k> boga, need more information, such as plugins and etensions used etc
[12:21] <morpheus> probably one of your extensions
[12:21] <eternaljoy> sparkleytone: dont I already have sun-java5-jre installed?
[12:22] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, so you think it is a boot issue and not the installation itself?
[12:22] <sparkleytone> eleazar123: when you try again...try lilo
[12:22] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[12:22] <eternaljoy> sparkleytone: it says I have: *     3        /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java
[12:22] <eternaljoy> sparkleytone: dont I already have sun-java5-jre installed?
[12:22] <NickGarvey> eternaljoy, could you please read the link that has been sent to you over and over?
[12:22] <NickGarvey> eternaljoy, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[12:22] <morpheus> how do i configure bitchx to use proxy, anyone
[12:22] <boga> NickGarvey: yes. It is the latest 1.5.0.5
[12:22] <eternaljoy> NickGarvey: dont I already have sun-java5-jre installed?   it says I have: *     3        /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java
[12:22] <sparkleytone> morpheus: first, you stop using bitchx and move to irssi ;)
[12:22] <morpheus> is it better
[12:23] <sparkleytone> at this point eternaljoy is a troll in my book
[12:23] <NickGarvey> boga, what do you do to make it crash?  I suggest the tab mix plus plugin to help with crashes
[12:23] <NickGarvey> sparkleytone, same
[12:23] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow> K will try it, if it does not work should I wipe all linux partitions and try again, also how would I make XP partition 1? I have used QTparted before, would that do it and would it take very long?
[12:23] <sparkleytone> at best he's a support vampire
[12:23] <sparkleytone> which is even worse
[12:23] <eternaljoy> sparkleytone: whats it feel, like to be so self-righteous?
[12:23] <sparkleytone> it feels....right.
[12:23] <sparkleytone> :D
[12:23] <morpheus> how do i configure irssi to use proxy
[12:23] <boga> qwerty2k: I have forecastfox, colourful tabs, TabMixPlus and Gmail skins.
[12:23] <sparkleytone> morpheus: install it and /load proxy
[12:24] <qwerty2k> eternaljoy, you arent doing yourself any favours by asking simple questions that could have been solved by a) visiting the forums b) reading the start guide and c) doing a simple google search
[12:24] <sparkleytone> morpheus: actually i lie.  you should be able to do a /help proxy
[12:24] <eternaljoy> NickGarvey: you are very self-righteous!  and give the ubuntu community a bad name!   as others are vert helpful! in 1 year coming here, you and sparkleytone are the ONLY 2 people EVER that have been rude and nasty to me
[12:24] <boga> qwerty2k: Crashes when I am on Google video or YouTube.
[12:24] <qwerty2k> boga, sounds like a flash problem thn
[12:24] <sparkleytone> qwerty2k: especially not after the answer, in link form, has been given to him by multiple people multiple times
[12:24] <morpheus> where in irssi
[12:24] <NickGarvey> boga, what kind of thing are you doing to make it crash?
[12:24] <eternaljoy> qwerty2k: ok np! brb
[12:24] <qwerty2k> sparkleytone, :)
[12:24] <Tauhshi> I have a 80GB Partition that I want to use for sharing files between Windows and Ubuntu, but It is too big for FAT32, what should I do?
[12:25] <sparkleytone> eternaljoy: you might want to ask if the others here think the same.
[12:25] <fistandantilus> we dont.
[12:25] <boga> NickGarvey: It just exits! I have not been able to pin point a particular thing.
[12:25] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : I have had limited sucess moving XP...  I would use qtparted, delete the first partitin, the fat32, enlarge the ntfs filling in where fat32 was then remake fat 32 after all else is done..  but try super grub first..
[12:25] <sparkleytone> thx Seveas
[12:25] <sparkleytone> we tried, i promise.
[12:26] <NickGarvey> boga, hmm.. not really sure what would cause it then, there are ways to debug stuff like that, but they are way over my head :)
[12:26] <Tauhshi> but, FAT32 is listed as being able to handle Volume sizes of 2 TiB
[12:26] <slaxy> hi guys... which is the best FTP client ? suggest me
[12:26] <morpheus> i have to use a proxy tunneler to use irc, i just want to forward bitchx or irssi to it, please help
[12:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Tauhshi: where does it say that?
[12:26] <deoryp> slaxy ftp
[12:26] <NickGarvey> !ftp > slaxy
[12:26] <NickGarvey> slaxy, try a few and pick which one you like best :)
[12:26] <boga> NickGarvey: Ok can you assist with the apparent sound lag on Youtube and Google videos?
[12:27] <david__> what would hda1 be in grub menu.lst?
[12:27] <morpheus> at mo i'm using xchat, not happy
[12:27] <Tauhshi> Wikipedia, File Allocation Table
[12:27] <sparkleytone> Tauhshi: if you format it in linux, you can go beyond the windows restrictions.
[12:27] <Qwell> david__: usually (hd0,0)
[12:27] <sparkleytone> Tauhshi: however...fat32 has a 2GB single file size limit.
[12:27] <Tauhshi> But, I want windows to be able to read and write to it
[12:27] <slaxy> thx guys
[12:27] <dave> Has anyone heard of a fix for the java error message that wont close
[12:27] <david__> ok thanks
[12:27] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, will do bud thanks :)
[12:27] <fiveiron> i'm thinking of trying kubuntu for my wifes computer
[12:27] <slaxy> btw im not used to ftp> can i get the command list somewhere
[12:27] <morpheus> hmmm
[12:27] <sparkleytone> dave: kill the parent process?
[12:27] <NickGarvey> boga, not really actually.. have you tried the opera browser?  I hear it is very good
[12:27] <Tauhshi> Sparkley, 4GB
[12:27] <NickGarvey> slaxy, "help"
[12:27] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : good luck... let us know
[12:27] <sparkleytone> Tauhshi: windows will read it fine.  and ya 4gb sorry.
[12:28] <NickGarvey> slaxy, type that at the ftp> prompt
[12:28] <Renan_s2> slaxy, type '?" at the prompt
[12:28] <Tauhshi> Ok, will try
[12:28] <qwerty2k> NickGarvey, opera renders stuff sooo much quicker than firefox for me, but i couldnt get my plugins to work with it :(
[12:28] <slaxy> yea yea i did....
[12:28] <dave>  sparkleytone its a torrent and im getting 100 kb/s right now
[12:28] <sparkleytone> Tauhshi: just partition it and mkfs.vfat /dev/blah#
[12:28] <sparkleytone> dave: sounds like a pickle ;)  its probably worth the annoyance.  maybe you should use something other than azureus.
[12:28] <Tauhshi> I set it to format as FAT32 when I installed Ubuntu, but indows says that its file system is RAW
[12:29] <dave> how'd you know :)
[12:29] <fistandantilus> its a pig ;)
[12:29] <sparkleytone> Tauhshi: reformat it and try again.  manually reformat that is.
[12:29] <NickGarvey> Tauhshi, do what sparkleytone said, mkfs.vfat
[12:29] <dave> I guess its a bug that hasnt been resolved eh?
[12:29] <miguelsr> !openoffice
[12:29] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org".
[12:29] <sparkleytone> dave:  azureus is the most popular java bt client i know of
[12:29] <nicholaspaul> sparkleytone: i did the dd count=1 bit, but it still doesnt start up with grub. How can i check it?
[12:29] <morpheus> is there anyone here clued up on proxys
[12:29] <dave> its also one of the best
[12:29] <slaxy> well i dont know much of the basics of the commands when i type ? in ftp ... if i can get a list of help page on that.. it would be great
[12:29] <Tauhshi> Ok, and how to do that excatly? I'm only familiar with gparted
[12:29] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: do you get an error?
[12:29] <sparkleytone> Tauhshi: sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/hd#
[12:30] <sparkleytone> or sd#
[12:30] <nicholaspaul> no, just the word GRUB on the screen after  the bios
[12:30] <miguelsr> some one know wher do i can get an openoffice tutorial?
[12:30] <dave> slaxy same as shell really commands to know are put get open close ls and cd
[12:30] <morpheus> !proxy
[12:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about proxy - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:30] <slaxy> hi dave how do i connect to the server
[12:30] <dave> but im sure wiki will have a huge resource
[12:30] <jon_> hey i dl something from synaptic, but i cant find where it put it
[12:30] <nicholaspaul> sparkleytone: and it freezes with GRUB sitting there.
[12:30] <Tauhshi> Ok, and how do I identify what hd it is, its not showing up in Nat
[12:30] <Thanatos_> Please...I just upgraded to Dapper, and now, when I boot up, it runs gdm and automatically logs me in, but instead of a desktop, it is just a terminal window, can someone help me out?
[12:30] <dave> slaxy open <server>
[12:30] <morpheus> !proxies
[12:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about proxies - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:30] <slaxy> ok thx
[12:30] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: you should probably do what i was telling eleazar123 to do.  boot to your working install...mount your new hd and chroot into it, mount proc into it...then grub-install
[12:31] <morpheus> !irssi
[12:31] <slaxy> brb guys... thx a lot..
[12:31] <ubotu> IRSSI is a command line interface IRC application ( "sudo apt-get install irssi" without the quotes to try it out )
[12:31] <sparkleytone> Thanatos_: the only thing i can think to do is to dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[12:31] <gnomefreak> morpheus: stop playing with the bot
[12:31] <nicholaspaul> sparkleytone: sorry i wasnt paying attention :D mounting the new dr. is ok. How do i chroot into it and mountproc into it?
[12:31] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, I am running the CD what now?
[12:32] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: after mounting the drive...then 'mount -o bind /proc /path/to/newdrive/proc'
[12:32] <morpheus> wot do u mean dude, i'm trying to find answers, wots it to u anyway
[12:32] <Thanatos_> sparkleytone: I'll try that (I'll try anything)
[12:32] <Seveas> morpheus, 'wot' is not a word...
[12:32] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : hit enter
[12:32] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: then do 'chroot /path/to/newdrive /bin/bash' , then grub-install /dev/newdrive
[12:32] <gnomefreak> morpheus: i asked you to stop now please use /msg ubotu
[12:32] <NickGarvey> morpheus, use /msg ubotu instead
[12:32] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, I did all that and now have a blue menu
[12:33] <nicholaspaul> sparkleytone: k, i'm just restarting it.
[12:33] <jon_> how do i find out which ubuntu i have?
[12:33] <npster> I use KDevelop and when I build a project it says, ***Exited with status: 77 ***, what should I do to fix that ?
[12:33] <Jack_Sparrow> one sec... let me boot up another box with it..
[12:33] <morpheus> get a life dudes
[12:33] <NickGarvey> !version > jon_
[12:33] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: you should really think about reformatting the drive and simply mounting it where you need space
[12:33] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, K thanks :)
[12:33] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: that would simplify the process immensely
[12:34] <sparkleytone> people need to understand that the very nature of this channel necessitates strict moderation
[12:34] <jon_> thanks
[12:34] <nicholaspaul> sparkleytone: well, the prob is my sys drive is filling up.
[12:34] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: i doubt your / is filling up
[12:34] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: its probably either your /home or your /usr dirs
[12:34] <dave> perhaps #ubuntu should be broken down into sub channels so that there isnt so much congestion
[12:34] <nicholaspaul> sparkleytone: on a 6Gb drive its getting there.
[12:34] <sparkleytone> dave: it is
[12:35] <dave> no f'in way
[12:35] <dave> lol
[12:35] <dave> sweet
[12:35] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: again... / is ... its just a symbol really.  everything is in a directory
[12:35] <erik_mck> hi all : how can i unpack a .rpm ?
[12:35] <gnomefreak> dave: it already has see #kubuntu #xubuntu #ubuntu+1 and please continue this in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:35] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : restore grub in hard disk mbr
[12:35] <Seveas> erik_mck, you should get rid of it instead and find a proper ubuntu package
[12:35] <dave> erik_mck: get the rpm stuff from synaptic
[12:36] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow> only thing is that the guide I followed said installing Grub to MBR could wreck the windows installation
[12:36] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, they said they recommend against it and dont give help if you do
[12:36] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: you probably want to create 2 partitions on the new drive, format them and cp all your /home/* and /usr/* into each respective one.  then you can just change your fstab to mount the partitions into /home and /usr
[12:36] <dave> erik_mck try to use debian files over rpm
[12:36] <erik_mck> seveas ineed a file out of a rpm i dont want to use it as such
[12:36] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : what guide...?
[12:36] <gnomefreak> erik_mck: what .rpm
[12:36] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: if your current drive isn't failing, there's not a huge incentive to replace it
[12:36] <morpheus> wot the
[12:36] <Seveas> erik_mck, you need to convert it with rpm2something and them you can unpack it
[12:36] <starscream[2] > http://www.crhc.uiuc.edu/~mjmille2/howtos/dual-boot-linux-and-windows/
[12:36] <zazeem> avu: u there?
[12:36] <erik_mck> libswt-gtk
[12:36] <zazeem> avu: u there?
[12:37] <Seveas> morpheus, please speak proper english so people can understand you
[12:37] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : what about the option to boot other os's
[12:37] <linuxd00d> why can i not install Frontpage using WINE?
[12:37] <nicholaspaul> sparkleytone: ok
[12:37] <Seveas> linuxd00d, try nvu instead of frontpage if it won't work
[12:37] <Flannel> Jack_Sparrow: once grub is installed, you can boot to anything grub boots to
[12:37] <morpheus> Seveas who are you to tell me how to speak
[12:37] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: it sounds more difficult, but it really isn't.  it just goes against the way most of us are taught to think of how "drives" work
[12:38] <gnomefreak> morpheus: stop
[12:38] <sparkleytone> ...
[12:38] <erik_mck> seveas ok , i will see what i can find thought maybe there was a lib that would allow archive manager to open it .
[12:38] <sparkleytone> morpheus: you're going to get banned
[12:38] <gnomefreak> i was waiting ;)
[12:38] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, ok selected it
[12:38] <Seveas> gnomefreak, hehe
[12:38] <nicholaspaul> sparkleytone: ok i get it. so the home dir. just lives somewhere other than /home?
[12:38] <linuxd00d> Seveas: i have tried NVU but i have to keep a console open
[12:38] <Seveas> linuxd00d, no you don't
[12:39] <dave> thats a little sensitive deops you after one kick
[12:39] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: /home is just a metaphor.  it has nothing to do with 'where' it is.  its just an organizational unit for human understanding
[12:39] <Seveas> launch it from the manu or launch it with 'nvu &' from the terminal (without the '')
[12:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Flannel: he has an odd partiton config and he tried lilo already...
[12:39] <linuxd00d> Seveas: :S
[12:39] <nicholaspaul> sparkleytone: aaah. i see.
[12:39] <zazeem> avu: u there?
[12:39] <DarkAudit> I started with Kubuntu, then added Ubuntu. Now when I try to change the Application font in System->Preferences->Font, nothing happens
[12:39] <finalbeta_> are the archive servers still down? getting dependancy problems on packages, and i don't understand why.
[12:39] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, perhaps I should just try moving windows to beginning of hard drive, would take ages would it not?
[12:39] <avu> zazeem: yep
[12:40] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: real OS's don't care "where" folders are physically.  so you can have /home on sdc4 and /usr on sdb1 and / on hda...whatever
[12:40] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, and also try making sure I install GRUB and not lilo
[12:40] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[12:40] <zazeem> hey if anyone wants to see my ubuntu screenshot of my setup here it is, http://img425.imageshack.us/img425/8458/screenshotkn4.png
[12:40] <zazeem> avu: thats what i made
[12:40] <minimec> linuxd00d: Try <Alt><F2>
[12:40] <DarkAudit> I had the same issue on a notebook, and when I did a fresh install of Ubuntu on that machine, the problem went away.
[12:40] <zazeem> think it looks good?
[12:40] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : how about seeing if super grub will boot your xp...
[12:40] <nicholaspaul> sparkleytone: just like In OSX where you can move stuff around and it doesnt care!
[12:40] <zazeem> remember im a nub to linux
[12:40] <DarkAudit> as far as I can tell, the conflict is KDE-related
[12:40] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: kind of but not really.
[12:40] <finalbeta_> are the archive servers still down? getting dependancy problems on packages, and i don't understand why.
[12:41] <zazeem> the conan sword is the start button or x ubuntu button
[12:41] <Seveas> finalbeta_, error messages  pastebin
[12:41] <gnomefreak> finalbeta_: can you pastebint he command and errors
[12:41] <gnomefreak> s/pastebint/pastebin
[12:41] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, I think that installing grub in the MBR may fix the prob but it may also damage windows which I deperating dont want to happen
[12:41] <zazeem> avu: you like it?
[12:41] <dave> oh my thats your desktop
[12:41] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : that will help to know we can mess the mbr on the hd and super grub will still let you in xp
[12:41] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: OS X is full of magic :)
[12:41] <avu> zazeem: neatness. I especially like the trash icon and the desktop font.
[12:42] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : tell sgr to boot to XP..
[12:42] <Silenti-Ambulo> Hi all
[12:42] <dave> hey question the lower bar on your desktop what is that?
[12:42] <erik_mck> seveas : seems 7zip will unpack rpm , thanks for the help though
[12:42] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, ah I see what you mean, well how long would it take me to move the NTFS partition to the beginning of the hard drive? Hours?
[12:42] <zazeem> avu thnx :)
[12:42] <nicholaspaul> sparkleytone: oh yes. it is one big shining star alright ;)
[12:42] <linuxd00d> minimec: ahh cheers
[12:42] <linuxd00d> much better
[12:42] <witless> i'm using escputil with the correct commands as root but it will not clean the print heads or print a nozzle test pattern
[12:42] <Silenti-Ambulo> Can someone help me with my wireless, I'm stuck....
[12:42] <dave>                 http://img425.imageshack.us/img425/8458/screenshotkn4.png
[12:42] <dave>                 http://img425.imageshack.us/img425/8458/screenshotkn4.png
[12:42] <minimec> linuxd00d: ;)
[12:42] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : not a quick solution and very dangerous without a backup
[12:42] <Seveas> erik_mck, thank's for letting me know, will remember it 
[12:42] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, K, 1 min ill try that u said
[12:42] <dave> oops sorry
[12:42] <dave> zazeem whats that lower bar ?
[12:42] <DarkAudit> Silenti-Ambulo: what's the issue?
[12:42] <npster> HOW DO I CREATE A MAKEFILE IN KDEVELOP ?
[12:43] <zazeem> dave: i made it custom
[12:43] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, would the MBR be a better choice than moving the partition?
[12:43] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : hahaha, I just booted to windows and hit the Windows Productr activation screen....
[12:43] <dave> so its concept or its working?
[12:43] <gnomefreak> DarkAudit: im gonna ask you pone last time please continue the offtopic chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:43] <zazeem> dave: its working perfectly
[12:43] <avu> zazeem: the home icon is very nice, too. what's the iconset you're using?
[12:43] <Silenti-Ambulo> Well I'm lost, not a single instuction seems to get my intel 3945ABG to work DarkAudit
[12:43] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : yes mbr would be a better choicer
[12:43] <dave> wow how did you go about making the bar?
[12:43] <DarkAudit> gnomefreak: ???
[12:43] <zazeem> avu: umm gnant i think
[12:43] <gnomefreak> avu and zazeem please read what i posted to Dave
[12:43] <zazeem> avu: ill check
[12:43] <Jack_Sparrow> especially if sgr will get linux working for you/
[12:43] <gnomefreak> DarkAudit: sorry
[12:44] <zazeem> o ok
[12:44] <DarkAudit> gnomefreak: I have a GNOME issue, and helping someone with wireless... what's offtopic?
[12:44] <zazeem> dave: go to offtopic
[12:44] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, it booted windows OK
[12:44] <gnomefreak> dave offtopic goes to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:44] <Seveas> DarkAudit, I assume it was a <tab> error, he meant dave ;)
[12:44] <Jack_Sparrow> cool. that is encouraging...
[12:44] <gnomefreak> DarkAudit: not you
[12:44] <gnomefreak> DarkAudit: i meant dave
[12:44] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : exit, reboot the sgr and see if it will rebuild your grub
[12:44] <DarkAudit> darn that autocomplete :)
[12:44] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, sooo, fix grub MBR??? also does it matter than LILO is installed on the linux partition and we also put grub on mbr??
[12:44] <Silenti-Ambulo> Think you can help me DarkAudit ?
[12:45] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, remember tho, I did not get GRUB installed
[12:45] <nicholaspaul> sparkleytone: when i 'grub-install /dev/hdd' it says its not found or not a block device.
[12:45] <DarkAudit> notebook or desktop?
[12:45] <brian__> hey what is the best way to send and receive faxes with my ubuntu
[12:45] <Silenti-Ambulo> Notebook
[12:45] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : No, let er rip, the worst would be a reinstall of Ub and WIndows still intact
[12:45] <nicholaspaul> sparkleytone: i already did the other commands too.
[12:45] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: then its not /dev/hdd ;)
[12:45] <Silenti-Ambulo> Is there a way to talk betwean the 2 of us? it's a bit hard to follow DarkAudit
[12:45] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, okie smokey
[12:45] <DarkAudit> Silenti-Ambulo: this one caught me... is the WLAN switch on? :)
[12:45] <nicholaspaul> sparkleytone: lol hdd1 ?
[12:46] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : Ill kill the windows wpa while you do that..
[12:46] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: no...it should def be to the entire device
[12:46] <brian__> i have an x100p card installed with zaptel but asterisk is not really the ultimate fax solution
[12:46] <nicholaspaul> sparkleytone: but thats what DIsks manager says the drive is.
[12:46] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: what does 'fdisk -l /dev/hdd' say?
[12:46] <minimec> Silenti-Ambulo: Ok ;) I am on it too. Wich chip do you have?
[12:47] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, shall I used Auto or Manual?
[12:47] <zazeem> dave: are you there?
[12:47] <Jack_Sparrow> try auto
[12:47] <SonicvanaJr> hey I'm trying to walk a friend through install ubuntu but he gets to a certain point and his monitor just pops up a message saying "VGA Mode Not Supported" Does anybody have any info about this ?
[12:47] <Silenti-Ambulo> To be honest DarkAudit, after the instructions I followed it isn't even visible ! :( BCM5789
[12:47] <nicholaspaul> sparkleytone: cant open it, and fdisk -l returns nothing.
[12:47] <andrewski> can anyone help with multimedia keys in rhythmbox?  the wiki seems to imply that if they're listed in gnome's keyboard properties, they'll work, but they don't.
[12:47] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, error file not found SGD has not done it, perhaps because it was never installed??
[12:47] <zazeem> dave: ???
[12:48] <npster> How do I compile code C++ from terminal ?
[12:48] <minimec> Silenti-Ambulo: Is the wlan a mini-pci of the notebook, or onboard?
[12:48] <linuxd00d> does anybody know of a website that has good templates to work from? i have used www.freewebtemplates.com but i dont like there styles (i suck at HTML)
[12:48] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : sounds like it... no linux partitions found...
[12:48] <DarkAudit> Silenti-Ambulo: there should be a switch on the front for WLAN... this one caught me out once, and I thought my wireless was broken
[12:48] <starscream[2] > Jack_sparrow, I will reinstall ubuntu and put grub in the right place this time
[12:48] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : reinstall Ub
[12:48] <crafton> npster, sudo aptitude install build-essentials
[12:48] <Jack_Sparrow> cool
[12:48] <Miek> linuxd00d: wrong channel :p
[12:48] <crafton> and then you'll got g++
[12:49] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, fingers crossed eh?
[12:49] <dave> hrmm Automatiix is amazing
[12:49] <Silenti-Ambulo> DarkAudit, the switch doesn't light up anymore.... and it's onboard.....
[12:49] <dave> woulda saved me alot of time
[12:49] <finalbeta_> My dependancy problem : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19834
[12:49] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : sorry this took so long, but I wanted to be careful with your non-backed up xp... at least with sgr you can get into XP even if mbr is trashed
[12:49] <slaxy> did any of u guys checked this ? http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/08/02/local-dns-cache-for-faster-browsing/
[12:50] <minimec> Silenti-Ambulo: 'iwconfig' on a console doesn't give you anything?
[12:50] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, yeah thats cool to know, makes me rest a little, I heard that ubuntu sometimes has issues with 64bit machines is this true?
[12:50] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: what drive did you mount and chroot to?
[12:50] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : what Ub are you installing?
[12:50] <Silenti-Ambulo> lo eth0 sit0 all no wireless Minimec
[12:51] <dave> slaxy - my browser is fast already :P
[12:51] <Jack_Sparrow> I would avoid the 64 bit and start with 32..  not much difference in speed..
[12:51] <finalbeta_> I've talked about a dependancy problem, someone wanted me to paste it : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19834
[12:51] <nicholaspaul> sparkleytone: /media/rothko
[12:51] <minimec> Silenti-Ambulo: And you don't find any wlan button as DarkAudit asked?
[12:51] <slaxy> how come dave ??
[12:51] <nicholaspaul> sparkleytone: should that have been /dev/hdd ?
[12:51] <brian__> !printers
[12:51] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[12:52] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, breezy
[12:52] <Tauhshi> How do i give a user premission to write to a drive?
[12:52] <dave> slaxy - my browser is Mozilla firefox
[12:52] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: what does 'mount' say the device is for /media/rothko ?
[12:52] <dave> fast as f%^&
[12:52] <Silenti-Ambulo> Yes I did but it doesn't go on minimec :( it worked this afternoon, but after I tried a few instructions i cant turn it on
[12:52] <minimec> Silenti-Ambulo: Do you know, what wlan-chip do you have?
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[12:52] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, dont have a dapper CD so was gonna install breezy then update
[12:52] <crafton> i prefer epiphany
[12:52] <dave> but no im themed to and its fast
[12:52] <dave> *too
[12:52] <slaxy> dave - mine too... but still it has to be better.. did u tweaked it ?
[12:52] <Silenti-Ambulo> I believe it's a BCM5789 Intell Chipset the model of wireless is 3945ABG Minimec
[12:52] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : If you have broadband... get dapper...
[12:52] <nicholaspaul> sparkleytone: /dev/hdd1
[12:53] <dave> im also in a 6mb connection
[12:53] <finalbeta_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19834 dependacy problem, what does it mean, how can I fix it?
[12:53] <witless> can anyone tell me how i can clean the nozzle heads on my epson stylus photo 2200 printer??  i don't even have a mac or windows box to boot into to do that
[12:53] <witless> i can't print any photos (they're completely ruined)
[12:53] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, only on 1 meg connection, would take hours, is the installation all revised in dapper? Could dapper succeed where breezy fails if this doesnt work?
[12:53] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: you are chrooted now or out of it?
[12:53] <xed2> help! someone i need to get libavcodec2 installed,and have no idea how/success!
[12:53] <minimec> Silenti-Ambulo: What did you configure this afternoon?
[12:53] <gnomefreak> dave: stop with the offtopic chat in here
[12:54] <nicholaspaul> sparkleytone: oh i'm out of it now. should i do the chroot command again?
[12:54] <sparkleytone> finalbeta_: looks like you are mixing and matching repositories
[12:54] <Jack_Sparrow> doubtful... use breezy since you have it and maybe order dapper from ship-it
[12:54] <minimec> Silenti-Ambulo: ifup/idown?
[12:54] <DarkAudit> Silenti-Ambulo: try sudo modprobe ipw3945 then iwconfig again
[12:54] <Silenti-Ambulo> I followed many different kind of instructions which I found on the forums, but I think I screwed up :(
[12:54] <Jack_Sparrow> free
[12:54] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: pastebin your /media/rothko/etc/fstab
[12:54] <dave> everything im talking about is related to ubuntu and components
[12:55] <bXi> hi
[12:55] <Silenti-Ambulo> ifup/idown ?
[12:55] <nicholaspaul> sparkleytone: ok.
[12:55] <Silenti-Ambulo> I'm getting a whole list of Errors DarkAudit
[12:55] <sparkleytone> dave: this is not a "chat" channel...this is a support channel.
[12:55] <bXi> is it possible to reset the state of perl to how it was when ubuntu was first installed?
[12:55] <minimec> Silenti-Ambulo: Did you touch /etc/network/interfaces?
[12:55] <gnomefreak> dave: its not support related end of this go to #ubuntu-offtopic to continue
[12:55] <finalbeta_> sparkleytone, what is wrong with my sources then? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19836
[12:55] <nicholaspaul> where is the postbin?
[12:55] <starscream[2] > jack_sparrow, its free from ship-it? to UK?
[12:55] <dave> fine
[12:55] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: ^^
[12:55] <ompaul> starscream[2] , to anywhere
[12:55] <mweiss> hello
[12:55] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[12:55] <DarkAudit> Silenti-Ambulo: I have a feeling this is going over my head
[12:56] <Silenti-Ambulo> I dunno, I copy and pasted some instructions....which were to install drivers... :(
[12:56] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : Sure now you tell me your a limey... :)
[12:56] <nicholaspaul> sparkleytone: k
[12:56] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: what's the link?
[12:56] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, which is the install verstion "alternate" or "desktop"?
[12:56] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : Just kidding dosent matter..
[12:56] <Jack_Sparrow> desktop
[12:56] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, ha! a limey he says!
[12:56] <bXi> does anybody know if its possible to reset the state of perl to how it was when ubuntu was first installed?
[12:56] <Silenti-Ambulo> I'm a n00b with linux, so I bound to screw up sometimes DarkAudit, TNX for the help
[12:57] <sparkleytone> finalbeta_: looks like your automatix repos are causing issues
[12:57] <xed2> help! someone i need to get libavcodec2 installed,and have no idea how/success! its needed for zoneminder ...thats all thats left preventing me from installing ZM
[12:57] <Tauhshi> how do I grant myself premission to write to a FAT32 Drive?
[12:57] <brian__> ok so this samsun ml-1210 is now installed and printing
[12:57] <nu> man. i just installed ubuntu over xubuntu and i miss xubuntu [sad] 
[12:57] <brian__> i gotta reboot though
[12:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Tauhshi: I use the diskmouter script
[12:57] <sparkleytone> Tauhshi: -o owner=username
[12:57] <starscream[2] > jack_sparrow, i am downloading the 64 bit version, might it run better?
[12:57] <Jack_Sparrow> !diskmounter > Tauhshi
[12:57] <Silenti-Ambulo> AnyIdea's Minimec ?
[12:58] <nicholaspaul> sparkleytone: one sec
[12:58] <avallach> I have a nvidia geforce4 mx 420 (nv17s) in my Dapper box - everything worked great with the nvidia driver for a long time but a couple weeks ago it started locking up (usually when a screensaver came on), i reverted to the nv driver & no lockups...anybody know why nvidia stopped working?
[12:58] <zuludawn> Bunch of fucking assholes, i hope you all fucking die a slow painfull death and rot in hell for eternity - fuckers
[12:58] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : a little faster but seems to have a few more issues.
[12:58] <sparkleytone> starscream[2] : if you aren't using more than 4GB of RAM, the 64bit version is basically masochism
[12:58] <minimec> Silenti-Ambulo: Hmmm... Unfortunally I cannot know, what and where you 'copy-pasted'. As I understand, you needed to install some dirvers, because the kernel had none. Is that correct?
[12:58] <finalbeta_> sparkleytone, how do you know that of the error? I'v edited out those repos and still have the problem
[12:59] <starscream[2] > sparkleytone, i am using 2gig?
[12:59] <Silenti-Ambulo> It showed the wireless card, but it said it connected but it still didn't work....Minimec.
[12:59] <Silenti-Ambulo> I read I had to install some drivers...
[12:59] <nicholaspaul> sparkleytone: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19837
[01:00] <fsniper> anybody know anything about self closing tabs on gnome-terminal?
[01:00] <Silenti-Ambulo> It might be better if I reinstall the whole ubuntu, then ask here for help.... Minimec
[01:00] <minimec> Silenti-Ambulo: So the card was recognised out of the box, but you had no connection.
[01:00] <DanaG> Is there an easy way to convert a Gnome color scheme into a KDE color scheme?
[01:00] <andrewski> fsniper: what do you mean?
[01:00] <Silenti-Ambulo> Yep Minimec
[01:00] <minimec> Silenti-Ambulo: What did you do then?
[01:00] <bXi> does anybody know if its possible to reset the state of perl to how it was when ubuntu was first installed?
[01:00] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: you need to change your hda's to hdd's, then comment out the hdd1 line
[01:01] <fsniper> andrewski: with ubuntu 6.06 TLS my gnome-terminal tabs other than the main one closes on any command input
[01:01] <DanaG> I don't mean the windeco and style; just the colors.
[01:01] <Silenti-Ambulo> Search the forums at Ubuntu.... I found a few which I tried
[01:01] <rendo> How do I check to see what piece of junk is using my sound card?
[01:01] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: then "chroot /media/rothko /bin/bash" and try again
[01:01] <minimec> Silenti-Ambulo: I guess you waned to configure the access to the internet...
[01:01] <starscream[2] > Ah, just looking at dapper screenshots, looks like they touched up the default wallpaper to look more like chocolate as opposed toa big poo on breezy
[01:01] <andrewski> fsniper: hmm, so they're in the background?
[01:02] <Jack_Sparrow> !alsa > rendo
[01:02] <Silenti-Ambulo> Yep, It's been a long time since I been a n00b at something :P
[01:02] <qwerty2k> dapper is really good, cant wait for edgy :)
[01:02] <Silenti-Ambulo> I'm starting to get fed up with Windows Minimec
[01:02] <nicholaspaul> sparkleytone: will that still work when i swap my drives over?
[01:02] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: if you switch them out...no.
[01:02] <minimec> Silenti-Ambulo: This is ok ;)
[01:02] <fsniper> no i straced them for a bit. somewhere child xterms gets sigkills
[01:02] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : I finished fixing WPA on my XP how is your problem comming along
[01:02] <Silenti-Ambulo> LOL Yeah I know....I can laugh about it...
[01:02] <slavik> wee 640 by 480 edgy goodness :D
[01:02] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: before you swap them out...change them back
[01:02] <witless> my $600 printer is useless under ubuntu.
[01:02] <andrewski> fsniper: weird.
[01:02] <nicholaspaul> sparkleytone: oh. i seeeeeeeeee!
[01:03] <minimec> Silenti-Ambulo: For the configuration of your wlan... wich files did you touch?
[01:03] <Silenti-Ambulo> Never really had the time, to try Linux,
[01:03] <nicholaspaul> sparkleytone: ok, i'm going in...
[01:03] <qwerty2k> witless, tried turboprint?
[01:03] <rendo> Jack_Sparrow I'm talking with XMMS, my sound works fine except it says this message about couldn't open audi
[01:03] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, copying remaining packages yada yada....
[01:03] <keras> Hi, I'm wondering if anyone could help me with my x server.  Basically, I'd like to find out how to start up x server on default.  When I boot up my comp, it tells me that x server has failed to start, but then I login and type startx and everything works fine.
[01:03] <fsniper> andrewski: yes weird. i just dont want t bother compiling
[01:03] <witless> qwerty2k: i need to clean the print heads
[01:03] <qwerty2k> witless,  oh :(
[01:03] <Silenti-Ambulo> I really don't know anymore Minimec, I think I followed more than 25 different manuels....
[01:03] <DarkAudit> witless: did you check http://linuxprinting.org/ ?
[01:03] <Silenti-Ambulo> I'm going to reinstall and ask here again tomorrow ;) TNX for the help Minimec
[01:03] <rendo> n/m
[01:04] <rendo> figured it out
[01:04] <minimec> Silenti-Ambulo: Wait a second ;)
[01:04] <Jack_Sparrow> rendo: some sound cards will only let one device use the sound at a time which is why I linked the alsa info  change from oss something like that
[01:04] <slaxy> dude why does amarok trouble me on ubuntu.... crashes, asks for klauncher .. doesnt showup in system tray.. blah blah
[01:04] <Silenti-Ambulo> You also DarkAudit
[01:04] <witless> DarkAudit: there is a utility named escputil that is supposed to do it but it doesn't do anything.  command completes successfully but nothing happens.
[01:04] <wasauce> can anyone help me setup Wake on lan on my ubuntu machiene? I have an on-board NIC and in the bios I enabled WOL. the only problem is it doesnt work
[01:04] <Silenti-Ambulo> ok Minimec
[01:04] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, I am only installing it to use Amour
[01:04] <DarkAudit> Silenti-Ambulo: before you go... are you using WPA for the wireless?
[01:04] <Silenti-Ambulo> Yep DarkAudit WPA2 Mixed
[01:04] <DarkAudit> aha!!
[01:04] <fsniper> wasauce: this wake on lan thingie is not about the os
[01:05] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, is hda4 on the single hard drive h0,3?
[01:05] <starscream[2] > hd0,3 i mean
[01:05] <wasauce> < <r> wasauce: this wake on lan thingie is not about the os
[01:05] <wasauce> 16:03 -!- slavik [n=slavik@67-100-227-140.adsl.lbdsl.net]  has left #ubuntu [] 
[01:05] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : I refuse to get on the internet with XP... Ubuntu is so much safer
[01:05] <DarkAudit> Silenti-Ambulo: install network-manager-gnome
[01:05] <minimec> Silenti-Ambulo: Well... If the card was recognized out of the box. With ubuntu and gnome you can install the Network-manager and the gnome-network-manager packages. That will give you an 100% integration of your wlan card..
[01:05] <Silenti-Ambulo> I believe I did DarkAudit
[01:05] <keras> Anyone have any ideas on what I could do?
[01:06] <Silenti-Ambulo> But maybe at the wrong time...
[01:06] <starscream[2] > Jack_sparrow, ya telling me it so it, I want to move to amour instead of cubase cos i get loads of latency in windows
[01:06] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] :   Let me look at my grub, I just want to be careful.. but I do think that is correct.. one sec
[01:06] <wasauce> fsniper: where should i head? I thought maybe there was something I need to enable on ubuntu. Also do you know of a source where i can check if my Mobo has the capabilities
[01:06] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, is hda4 = hd0,3 for the grub?
[01:06] <Jack_Sparrow> one sec
[01:07] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, K
[01:07] <Silenti-Ambulo> LOL Yes I did, I see the icon above, still didn't work... but that was after a few manuels DarkAudit & Minimec
[01:07] <minimec> Silenti-Ambulo: The old fashioned way is the 'debian'-way with the ifup/ifdown tools. The configuration is done in /etc/network/interfaces ... This is all you need, to make your card going...
[01:07] <fsniper> wasauce: you should check your mboard vendors site
[01:07] <wasauce> fsniper: thanks will do.
[01:07] <fsniper> wasauce: never mind ;)
[01:07] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, if this doesnt work then I will do it all again but using MBR
[01:07] <DarkAudit> Silenti-Ambulo: what's listed for the wireless interface when you check System->Administration->Networking?
[01:08] <slavik> what's the command to find out my xorg version?
[01:08] <gnomefreak> slavik: x --version
[01:08] <Silenti-Ambulo> Only regulair modem and the normal NIC DarkAudit
[01:08] <slaxy> hi guys.... why does amarok trouble me on ubuntu.... crashes, asks for klauncher .. doesnt showup in system tray.. blah blah... how can i make it run smoother.. ???
[01:08] <minimec> Silenti-Ambulo: There is no reason, that your card is not recognized by the system, if it was this afternoon. ;)
[01:08] <Silenti-Ambulo> I will LQQK into it minimec
[01:08] <orlick> Hello, I'm looking for a laptop to put Ubuntu on.  I realize there is a list of Laptops with "known" problems.  Is there a laptop vendor that is known to have generally good compatibility with Ubuntu?  I know a few years ago this would have been IBM.  Not sure if that is still the case with Lenova.
[01:08] <nicholaspaul> sparkleytone:  it now says /dev/hda: Not found or not a block device.
[01:08] <Silenti-Ambulo> I think it happend, when one of the instructions told me when I got a paticulair error I had to reinstall IEEE1.13
[01:09] <timhaughton> Can anyone tell me why trying to install totem-xine means uninstalling totem, totem-gstreamer and ubuntu-desktop?
[01:09] <DarkAudit> Silenti-Ambulo: I'm still thinking the switch on the front of the 'puter has been accidentially turned off
[01:09] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : go for it.. that should be correct
[01:09] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: you did 'grub-install /dev/hdd' ?
[01:09] <Silenti-Ambulo> LOL I know DarkAudit, but it doesn't respond when I try and turn it on...
[01:09] <Jack_Sparrow> brb
[01:09] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, installed without a hitch that time man!
[01:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Cool
[01:09] <nicholaspaul> sparkleytone: and hda , said the same thing both times
[01:09] <Jack_Sparrow> bring it up
[01:10] <qwerty2k> timhaughton, totem because it isnt using the xine engine, gstreamer because gstreamer is the engine totem currently using and ubuntu-desktop is a meta package which doesnt actually contain any programs
[01:10] <nu> man. xfce had a hady middle-mouse click which would display the start-menu. anyone know if theres a way to accomplish this in gnome?
[01:11] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: it should be hdd
[01:11] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: try again with hdd
[01:11] <nu> handy*
[01:11] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, hmm it went to the windows bootloader instead of grub, I will change linux to active and windows to inactive
[01:11] <minimec> Silenti-Ambulo: do 'iwconfig' push the wlan button and do 'iwconfig' again. there must be a difference...
[01:11] <nicholaspaul> sparkleytone: same thing. Shouldnt 'mount -a ' mount whats in fstab?
[01:11] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : try sgr again see if it finds it
[01:11] <zeeeee> hi all. sometimes after suspending my laptop, my wireless device disappears (/proc/net/wireless only has table headers). is there any way to fix this aside from rebooting?
[01:11] <nicholaspaul> sparkleytone: cos i dont get any response...
[01:11] <Silenti-Ambulo> Nope Minimec :S
[01:11] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: not in a chroot
[01:11] <nicholaspaul> oh
[01:11] <nu> Silenti-Ambulo: make sure its wlan0. usually it's ath0
[01:12] <garryF> That was sure a lot of update packages with little said about it.
[01:12] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, Ill try this first because windows should not be the actuve partition should it?
[01:12] <slaxy> hi guys... any GUI ftp client u  can suggest me... ftp> is good but im not much used to linux commands... still have to learn them
[01:12] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : changing active etc can be a problem
[01:12] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[01:12] <minimec> Silenti-Ambulo: Do you find the card with 'lspci' ?
[01:12] <slavik> slaxy: nautilus
[01:12] <Silenti-Ambulo> I don't see either Nu
[01:12] <Thanatos_> sparkleytone: FYI  dpkg reconfigure gdm made no change.
[01:12] <nicholaspaul> slaxy: try gftp
[01:13] <starscream[2] > Jack_sparrow, both windows and linux are active ...hmmm
[01:13] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : tell it to write to the mbr
[01:13] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : Like I said XP is fussy...
[01:13] <slaxy> nicholaspaul - gftp is crashing when it is connecting....
[01:13] <Silenti-Ambulo> 0000:03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation: Unknown device 4222 (rev 02)
[01:13] <StreetSmart> Hello guys, is there any sort of command that will update the kde menu after installing something with apt-get ?
[01:13] <Silenti-Ambulo> 0000:03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation: Unknown device 4222 (rev 02)
[01:13] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : I need to reboot this but I will wait for you to get this fixed.
[01:13] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, I would have to reinstall again to installt o MBR?
[01:14] <DarkAudit> Silenti-Ambulo: if you didn't make multiple saves of the files you edited, you should have the originals still as backups. Revert to those and reboot
[01:14] <Hit3k> On the ubuntu wiki it says that Java can be install from the Add/Remove section on the menu but its not there and its not in the repos either
[01:14] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : NO just the sgr
[01:14] <Silenti-Ambulo> 0000:04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM5789 Gigabit E thernet PCI Express (rev 21)
[01:14] <qwerty2k> Hit3k, did you select the buttons ;show commericial and show 9forgot wot other one is caleld)
[01:14] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, so because gurb is installed on my linux partition, sgr can move it to MBR?
[01:14] <soberon> Good evenning... a trivial question please: Minnimal requeriments (RAM & HD) for Ubuntu?? Where I find it?
[01:14] <Silenti-Ambulo> LOL told you I was a n00b again :P DarkAudit
[01:15] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : MOve it is not the right term, point to it is more correct
[01:15] <Hit3k> qwerty2k, didnt see it
[01:15] <minerale> Hi, I would like to run gnome from another machine, I do this often in windwos (by running a local x server) and then forwarding X over ssh, but now I'm in ubuntu, I already have a x server, and I I run gnome remotely it'll just put itself on top of my already running gnome session. How can I have a 'second' x server that'll allow me to run a remote session?
[01:15] <nicholaspaul> soberon: i dont think there are any.
[01:15] <starscream[2] > Jack_sparrow, yeah but it is not installed in there
[01:15] <nicholaspaul> sparkleytone: how can i remount fstab then?
[01:15] <nicholaspaul> in chroot...
[01:16] <Hit3k> qwerty2k, its still not there
[01:16] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, OMG! LILO IS STILL ON THE PARTITION!!!
[01:16] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, I must not have told it to format it!
[01:16] <soberon> Thannks... but for an old machine?
[01:16] <qwerty2k> Hit3k, have you altered your /etc/apt/sources.list and uncommented the universe repo's?
[01:16] <Mora> minerale, you want to use some kind of vnc server; vino might be for you.
[01:16] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: you don't have to.  you just needed to change that in order to boot and i don't remember if grub reads it
[01:16] <nicholaspaul> sparkleytone: oh ok .
[01:16] <Hit3k> qwerty2k, yes
[01:16] <Silenti-Ambulo> Thanks for the help Minimec, DakAudit  & Nu, I'm going to reinstall tomorrow and try from scratch...
[01:17] <rixxon> 100% cpu usage, but counting processes gives like 20% usage. what's secretly using 80% of my cpu?
[01:17] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: in the chroot, rm /boot/grub/device.map and try again
[01:17] <qwerty2k> Hit3k, alternatively use a program called Automatix (search ubuntu forums for it), it will auto install java amongst other things you can choose from)
[01:17] <minimec> Silenti-Ambulo: OK. What you can do no is to install another kernel, like the i386 kernel if you're working with the pentium optimized. Or you take an older version. By installing that, you will have the choice on the next boot <esc> to choose the kernel. Choose the new instakked one and try to configure your card.
[01:17] <DarkAudit> Silenti-Ambulo: sorry I couldn't be of more help
[01:17] <Silenti-Ambulo> Best way to learn, screw up and then try again...
[01:17] <minerale> mora: this one computer I'm trying to use has blocked all sockets, I'm not alowed to open any
[01:17] <Silenti-Ambulo> You all been a good help ;)
[01:17] <rixxon> closing ktorrent fixed the issue... but ktorrent was listed as using 0% cpu :/
[01:17] <Nutubuntu> Hi all - borrowed a DVD from the library and am trying to play it. Get an error: "he source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?" I have installed libdvdcss per instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats ... how do I figure out the problem, pls?
[01:17] <tuxtux> notte
[01:17] <minimec> Silenti-Ambulo: The kernels are parallell, wich means you can choose th ekernel to load...
[01:17] <Silenti-Ambulo> Any kernel I should choose paticulair for a Core Duo ?????
[01:18] <qwerty2k> smp
[01:18] <zeeeee> hi all, sometimes after suspending my dell latitude d600, my ipw2200 disappears from /proc/net/wireless. what's going on? can i fix this aside from rebooting?
[01:18] <DanaG> Something with SMP.
[01:18] <DanaG> 686.
[01:18] <qwerty2k> yeah
[01:18] <qwerty2k> i686-smp
[01:18] <Hit3k> qwerty2k, I just didnt have the multiverse repositories thats all
[01:18] <minimec> Silenti-Ambulo: Oups.... I have no experience with these. sorry.
[01:18] <nicholaspaul> sparkleytone: i keep getting the same thing.
[01:18] <qwerty2k> Hit3k,  :)
[01:19] <Silenti-Ambulo> LOL no worries, was just a question... I might be pretty good with Mickeysoft, I'm a n00b with linux
[01:19] <zeeeee> (i have all the latest updates)
[01:19] <nu__> back
[01:19] <Silenti-Ambulo> TNX for all the help, I probally be back after the reinstall....
[01:19] <nu> slaxy: try epiphany
[01:19] <nu> slaxy: its a broser, but can be used as FTP, like IE can be used as ftp on windoze
[01:19] <nu> =)
[01:19] <nu> i think my irc broke
[01:19] <nu> i dont see anyone typing
[01:19] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: if you HAVE to replace the old drive...here's what you SHOULD do...repartition that drive with a partition the EXACT same size as your old HD's partition and the rest just unpartitioned.  then 'dd bs=1M if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/hdd1' ... then 'dd bs=512 count=1 if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdd' ... then shut down and switch out the drives....then reboot
[01:20] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: that WILL work...then you'll need to parted to resize the paritition
[01:20] <minimec> Silenti-Ambulo: Don't give up. It's a new and fresh experience. I couldn't change again...
[01:20] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: i need to go
[01:20] <nicholaspaul> sparkleytone: ok i'll give that a try. Thanks for your help, and patience;)
[01:20] <Silenti-Ambulo> LOL I'm not a quiter and I'm eager to learn..... but if you screwed up to much, it's best to start over..... Minimec
[01:21] <minimec> Silenti-Ambulo: So start with a new clean dapper install ;)
[01:21] <Nutubuntu> Trying to play a DVD - can anyone help me out here? I borrowed a DVD from the library and am trying to play it. Get an error: "The source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?" I have installed libdvdcss per instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats ... how do I figure out the problem, pls?
[01:21] <Silenti-Ambulo> I am, first thing in the morning....
[01:21] <Silenti-Ambulo> I got the Ethernet Nic working tough :P so I learned at least something
[01:22] <nu__> Silenti-Ambulo: are you having trouble with wireless?
[01:22] <minimec> Silenti-Ambulo: Good luck. If you're dooing this during the Formula1 Race, I might be online ;)
[01:22] <FuriousRage> how can i enable my mouse wheel click as double click? in xchat its paste and nothing in firefox ect.
[01:22] <zeeeee> anybody?
[01:22] <Silenti-Ambulo> LOL I cheeck the tv-schedule :P
[01:22] <nu__> zeeeee: what did you ask? i missed it
[01:22] <minimec> Silenti-Ambulo: ... watching TV on the second screen ;)
[01:22] <Silenti-Ambulo> Yep, I'm going to try a fresh install Nu__
[01:22] <Mora> minerale, then a: should you really run X on it? b: you can use ssh tunneling then, run x11vnc in one ssh session, then run second with -L 6001:localhost:6001
[01:22] <zeeeee> hi all, sometimes after suspending my dell latitude d600, my ipw2200 disappears from /proc/net/wireless. what's going on? can i fix this aside from rebooting?
[01:22] <zeeeee> nu_: er, that was to you
[01:23] <Mora> minerale, assuming x11vnc is running on :1
[01:23] <nu__> zeeeee: no idea man. sorry =(
[01:23] <Silenti-Ambulo> I got 2 desktops here, 1 laptop and a wide screen tv :P so I know what you mean
[01:23] <nu__> Silenti-Ambulo: alright man. you shouldnt have to, but ok ;P
[01:23] <minimec> Silenti-Ambulo: ;)
[01:23] <Silenti-Ambulo> I tried to many things Nu___, I think I screwed at least a few things up....
[01:24] <nu__> irssi makes me feel so leet.
[01:24] <nu__> lol
[01:24] <Silenti-Ambulo> Besides if I want to learn decent, I have to remember what all I did....
[01:24] <Silenti-Ambulo> this afternoon I did about 35 different manuels nu___
[01:24] <ProN00b> can i make ctrl-c and ctrl-v work for copy and paste in the terminal ?
[01:24] <MoNkUnClE> i tried using ntfs-g3 or whatever in fstab and now my windows drive doesn't show up,i even included the sript file they mention on the howto but still i can only mount in term window using sudo
[01:24] <nu__> Silenti-Ambulo: have you tried ndiswrapper?
[01:24] <Silenti-Ambulo> Yep :p
[01:24] <FuriousRage> how can i enable my mouse wheel click as double click? in xchat its paste and nothing in firefox ect.
[01:25] <nu__> Silenti-Ambulo: =D oops. whenver i install ubuntu/xubuntu, i have to run it
[01:25] <SeaRunner> ok where do I find the scsi scanner installer on my ubuntu
[01:25] <nu__> Silenti-Ambulo: and also config my network through the terminal instead of the GUI that comes with ubuntu
[01:26] <Silenti-Ambulo> I'm an old DOS user, had to learn the hard way Linux is CaseSen
[01:26] <nu__> Silenti-Ambulo: hehe
[01:26] <minimec> Silenti-Ambulo: ;)
[01:26] <minerale> mora: I can't run x11vnc on this machine, it's a solaris box and It's got all kinds of restrictions
[01:26] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, r u back?
[01:26] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[01:27] <Silenti-Ambulo> My fist Linux installation..... What the heck??? Acrobat Installer?? I'm installing RedHat
[01:27] <Mora> minerale, then use ssh -X, setu up $DISPLAY, and fire up apps inside your ssh session.
[01:27] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, well the MBR thing did stop even windows booting
[01:27] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, it booted neither linux nor windows, but LILO was still on the ext3 partition, so I am gonna make sure it formats this time
[01:27] <SeaRunner> ok i cant find the hardware installer for this scsi scanner
[01:27] <ian_> Would anyone mind discussing the benefits of Debian vs Ubuntu?  I use Dapper now, but am thinking of testing out Debian.  Thoughts?  Pros/Cons?
[01:28] <SeaRunner> please point me to the right menu or web page or man page
[01:28] <jareth_> ian_ desktop machine?
[01:28] <SeaRunner> !scanner
[01:28] <ubotu> Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[01:28] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : Lilo should not have still been there... yea, format it clean
[01:28] <minerale> mora: what If I wanted to run a complete gnome session remotely
[01:28] <DanaG> Is it worthwhile to remove unnecessary stuff from the kernel and recompile?
[01:28] <Silenti-Ambulo> About that Debian is pissed of at Ubuntu ? for being so populair Ian_ ???????
[01:28] <ian_> jareth_:Ayup.  AMD 1700+, with only 256k memory.
[01:29] <Qwell> ian_: only 256k?  you should upgrade
[01:29] <jareth_> ian_ where do you use it for?
[01:29] <jg> anyone know what I should do to get a ipw3945 wireless running?
[01:29] <rdz> hi all. when i connect my external usbdrive to my ubuntu-laptop it is mounted two times: once as /dev/sda/ with ext3 (120GB), and as /dev/sda5/ with vfat (120GB). (the size of the disk is 120GB). as long as i work on /dev/sda5/ everything  is ok, but when i write directly on /dev/sda, everything gets screwed up, of course. how can i avoid the drive be mounted twice?
[01:29] <Silenti-Ambulo> Til we meet again Ubuntu Lovers !!!!
[01:29] <Nutubuntu> Can anyone give me a hand with getting a dvd to play ?
[01:29] <starscream[2] > jack_sparrow, I know what happened, in the ubuntu setup, if you select format the partition, then go on to make it bootable, it defaults the format back to NO instead of YES, hence no format! doh!
[01:29] <Silenti-Ambulo> With your fingers Crossed JG :P
[01:29] <jg> Silenti-Ambulo: heh.
[01:29] <Silenti-Ambulo> TNX for all the help peeps....
[01:29] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : doh.... :)
[01:29] <rdz> Nutubuntu, have you installed mplayer?
[01:30] <Silenti-Ambulo> Sorry jg, joke... I messed up myself... :P
[01:30] <minimec> rdz: Did you modify /etc/fstab ?
[01:30] <Nutubuntu> rdz, yes
[01:30] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, what will I need to do the MBR then if Grub is on the linux partition?
[01:30] <jg> Silenti-Ambulo: did you get it working?
[01:30] <jareth_> ian_ where do you use the machine fr?
[01:30] <starscream[2] > Jack_sparrow, will I did to repair it with windows?
[01:30] <Mora> minerale, you probably /could/ run a nested x11 server and run dm with xdmcp enabled..
[01:30] <Nutubuntu> rdz, here's the situation: I'm trying to play a DVD - can anyone help me out here? I borrowed a DVD from the library and am trying to play it. Get an error: "The source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?" I have installed libdvdcss per instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats ... how do I figure out the problem, pls?
[01:30] <rdz> Nutubuntu, try 'mplayer dvd://'
[01:30] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : I Ub should do it itself... if not sgr will
[01:30] <Silenti-Ambulo> I followed to many wrong Manuels...so I'm giong to start over jg.....
[01:30] <starscream[2] > cool
[01:30] <Silenti-Ambulo> It should work tough jg.... the peeps here are friendly, they can help
[01:30] <ian_> jareth_ : I'm learning netadmin skills...
[01:31] <starscream[2] > whatw ill sgr do to it, remove it from the mbr?
[01:31] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : I am going to boot to xp for a sec while you do that, then I'll be back
[01:31] <zeeeee> i think i figured out how to solve my problem: remove then add the ipw2200 kernel module
[01:31] <ian_> jareth_: Mainly for a desktop, but soon for an apache server.
[01:31] <rdz> minimec, yeah i modified it once, but not this part...
[01:31] <Silenti-Ambulo> Break a leg!! jg
[01:31] <DarkAudit> Nutubuntu: did you try the codec and DVD instructions at ubuntuguide.org?
[01:31] <Silenti-Ambulo> Bye
[01:31] <rdz> minimec, i'l have look anyway
[01:31] <zeeeee> what's the script that gets executed on resuming from suspend?
[01:31] <jg> Silenti-Ambulo: no thanks, I've done that once: it hurts.
[01:31] <jareth_> ian_ if you're using it on a desktp machine stick to ubuntu
[01:31] <Silenti-Ambulo> LOL not letterly :P jg
[01:31] <Nutubuntu> DarkAudit - No, I'll go look
[01:31] <crimsun> zeeeee: /etc/acpi/resume.*
[01:32] <zeeeee> crimsun: thanks
[01:32] <jareth_> ian_ for server I would install debian
[01:32] <Silenti-Ambulo> Withing good luck is bad luck ;) jg
[01:32] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, my head is done in...hope this works Lol
[01:32] <DarkAudit> Nutubuntu: use the sources.list on that page, too
[01:32] <ian_> jareth: So for a "daily driveer" Ubuntu is the best weapon of choice?
[01:32] <Nutubuntu> DarkAudit - will do
[01:32] <Nutubuntu> T/Y
[01:32] <Silenti-Ambulo> But anyway jg, I was off to bed... it's 1:30 AM
[01:32] <jareth_> ian_ yep!
[01:32] <nu__> Guys. on the add/remove appliction. if i check a box. is it marked for removal or installment?
[01:32] <Silenti-Ambulo> l8rz
[01:32] <jareth_> ian_ up to date packages, great standard desktp
[01:32] <rdz> minimec, i can't find any line in /etc/fstab that looks responsible for usb..
[01:32] <DanaG> I think SuSE is even better for everyday use, but because stuff is in odd places, it's less easily customizable.
[01:33] <minimec> rdz: Normally you shouldn't touch /etc/fstab for usb-devices, because they are managed by HAL, and I don't se a reason, that Hal should mount it twice, only if you have two partitions.
[01:33] <ian_> jareth_: Thanks man.  Have a great afternoon/evening. ;)
[01:33] <rdz> minimec, i don't have two partitions
[01:33] <jareth_> ian_ U2 :)
[01:33] <rdz> minimec, and in my fstab there is nothing about usb or sda os something
[01:34] <DarkAudit> DanaG: it's been nearly 2 yrs since I last used SUSE, but I found that repos for non-standard-issue were extremely difficult to find, and then you'd often get caught in rpm hell
[01:34] <avis> rdz, what do you have a usb external hard drive ?
[01:34] <rdz> Nutubuntu, i'm not sure if i can help you, since i compiled mplayer myself.
[01:34] <avis> is it formatted ?
[01:34] <avis> has a parition table ?
[01:34] <minimec> rdz: ok. do dmesg on a console and then put the usb-drive and do dmesg again after a few seconds... let's see what changed...
[01:35] <rdz> minimec, ok
[01:35] <Nutubuntu> t/y anyhow, rdz - I'm off looking at the ubuntuguide.org guide
[01:35] <slaxy> hi guys how can i iconify xmms to system tray ?
[01:35] <minimec> slaxy: You cannot...
[01:36] <thasa42> anyone know of a free burnprog for windows?
[01:36] <slaxy> minimec: thats sad :( .... but amarok crashes most of the time... asks for klauncher... doesnt show up in system try sometimes... why chance i can tweak it to work better ?
[01:36] <DanaG> How do you change the bootsplash theme?
[01:36] <DanaG> Oh, for CD burning, check out Silentnight Micro
[01:37] <minimec> slaxy: so you're using kde as desktop?
[01:37] <DarkAudit> slaxy: google is your friend :) found lots of pages on that
[01:37] <slaxy> nope ubuntu...
[01:37] <avis> slaxy did you add the respository for the latest kubuntu amarok from kubuntu.org and follow the instructions for Gnome ?
[01:37] <rdz> avis, minimec: i have a usb-controller where i can attach a IDE drive. i have two and it is the same with both
[01:38] <rdz> samsung and maxtor
[01:38] <slaxy> avis: im on ubuntu.... let me know those repositories
[01:38] <avis> ok so its an external usb drive that is IDE.
[01:38] <avis> slaxy i will mesg you them
[01:38] <minimec> rdz: when you pluged in the usb-device, what was 'dmesg' saying?
[01:38] <slaxy> avis: thx :)
[01:39] <thasa42> DanaG: thanks, but by free i meant opensource..
[01:39] <rdz> minimec, it is big output of dmesg. how can i filter it for what i am looking for?
[01:39] <SeaRunner> the sane image viewer does complains of no hardware but the device is listed in proc/scsi/scsi
[01:40] <wheels3572> Can someone help me setup tightvnc server please
[01:40] <minimec> rdz: oh.. .sorry ;) take the last three or four lines ?
[01:40] <rdz> minimec, aha ok. thanks
[01:40] <slaxy> btw guys i put alias for this room as " F1 Ubuntu " [super fast help]  thx guys
[01:40] <MoNkUnClE> dude all i wanna do is write to my ntfs partition using my regular user,trying to do it in term and losing,i wanna be able to do it graphically
[01:40] <SeaRunner> how do I find the config file for loading the scanner ?
[01:40] <MoNkUnClE> pls someone help me
[01:40] <stewski> is gstreamer supporting dvd playback yet?
[01:41] <Paladine> MoNkUnClE, you want to write to ntfs from linux?  I would advise you don't. unless you want to corrupt your ntfs partition
[01:41] <MoNkUnClE> Paladine i am using ntfs-3g or whatever that proggy is called
[01:41] <slaxy> Paladine: whats wrong in ntfs-3g
[01:42] <Paladine> MoNkUnClE, as I said, I would advise you don't unless you want to corrupt your ntfs partition
[01:42] <nu__> anyone here use pida by any chance?
[01:42] <Paladine> writing to ntfs from ext is very buggy to say the least
[01:42] <Paladine> no matter what you are using to do it
[01:42] <MoNkUnClE> ok thx Paladine
[01:42] <stewski> well you dont write from ext3
[01:42] <wweasel> Hey all. Is it possible to add a link to a folder to the Places menu?
[01:43] <stewski> you write via your filesystem driver
[01:43] <stewski> but write support for ntfs is pretty new
[01:43] <slaxy> Paladine: is there no safe way to write ntfs from linux... if not ext2/ 3 maybe reiserfs
[01:43] <DarkAudit> so that external HD I'm thinking of getting would be best off formatted in FAT32 if it's going to be used by XP and Linux boxes?
[01:43] <rdz> minimec, i cannot interpret the output of dmesg. can i pastebin you the lines that appear when i connect the drive?
[01:44] <wweasel> DarkAudit: Or ext2. Ext2 can be safely written from Windows.
[01:44] <Paladine> slaxy, it is totallyunsafe to write to NTFS unless the system is live irrespective of where you are trying to do it from, unless you are accessing it as a samba share
[01:44] <Paladine> the ntfs filesystem needs to be live
[01:44] <stewski> yeah get the ext driver for win pretty safe way round
[01:44] <slaxy> what do u mean by live ????
[01:44] <Paladine> itisbecause of the way ntfs works
[01:44] <stewski> or better still get vmware and run windows under linux
[01:45] <Paladine> it needs to be on a booted system (as in windows)
[01:45] <wweasel> DarkAudit: It can either be formatted FAT32 or ext2.
[01:45] <Paladine> accessed via samba
[01:45] <dave> how do I edit whats in the applications menu?
[01:45] <wweasel> Do any of you know if I can add a link to a folder under the Places menu in Gnome
[01:45] <MoNkUnClE> Paladine is there a way to do that with them existing on the same drive?
[01:45] <wweasel> dave: Alacarte Menu Editor
[01:45] <nu__> wweasel: yea
[01:45] <dave> thanks
[01:45] <wweasel> nu__: How?
[01:45] <Paladine> MoNkUnClE, you can make vmware server use an existing windows installation for a guest operating system
[01:45] <nu__> wweasel: i asked that same question when i was using xubuntu. let me make sure if it works. ill try now
[01:46] <Paladine> other than that, no
[01:46] <DarkAudit> wweasel: ok... I was intrigued by that media router... attach a usb drive to it, and move all my music/videos to that, independent of my OS
[01:46] <SeaRunner> ok the CANON scsi Slide Scanner is working happily
[01:46] <slaxy> well i have 4 ntfs drives... and i have started using ntfs-3g ... but then do u think i can use samba on the same system accessing those 4 drives
[01:46] <MoNkUnClE> Paladine i think i have the vmware server installed do u know where i might find a good howto on it??
[01:46] <Paladine> MoNkUnClE, on vmware's site
[01:46] <MoNkUnClE> ok thx Paladine
[01:47] <slaxy> Paladine :  well i have 4 ntfs drives... and i have started using ntfs-3g ... but then do u think i can use samba on the same system accessing those 4 drives
[01:47] <Paladine> slaxy, I would recommend you stop using ntfs-3g, trust me, you will destroy your ntfs partition
[01:47] <Paladine> ntfs uses ACS
[01:47] <SoulPropagation> Heh, what a coincidence, I came in here to see what the status of NTFS was in ubuntu 6.06
[01:47] <Paladine> ACS doesn't work on a mounted filesystem, it has to be used on a live file system
[01:47] <regularjordon> whats a good mirc script thats good with dcc transfers?
[01:48] <Paladine> regularjordon, what relevance does mirc have to ubuntu?
[01:48] <wweasel> DarkAudit: Well, here's the deal.  FAT32 would be more portable, cause every OS can read/write without drivers. You can take it anywhere, to any computer, no need to install anything.  The prob is that FAT32 has a maximum file size.  ext2 can be read/write in Windows, but it requires custom drivers. You can install them on any windows install. And it doesn't have a stupid max file size.
[01:48] <regularjordon> just a general question
[01:48] <tanath> i can't get any of the seveas repository mirrors to work...
[01:48] <nu__> wweasel: not working lol =(
[01:48] <nu__> wweasel: hold on let me keep trying
[01:48] <stewski> Paladine you sound like you're not 100% up on ntfs-3g?
[01:48] <slaxy> Paladine: but then there should be some solution cos... at this time ... i want to stop using windows and move over to linux....
[01:48] <tanath> i always get something like this: E: Unable to parse package file /var/lib/apt/lists/mirror3.ubuntulinux.nl_dists_dapper-seveas_Release (1)
[01:49] <Paladine> regularjordon, this is the official ubuntu support channel, your question is irrelevant to ubuntu
[01:49] <Seveas> tanath, are you on edgy?
[01:49] <tanath> Seveas: dapper
[01:49] <nu__> wweasel: ok go tit
[01:49] <Paladine> stewski, it doesn't matter what application you are running, without acs running (which is what controls ntfs) nothing will work properly
[01:49] <wweasel> nu__ aweseome, how?
[01:50] <rdz> avis, can you have a look at the output of dmesg after i connected the usbdrive?  http://pastebin.ca/117492
[01:50] <rdz> avis,  i'am not able to interpret it...
[01:50] <mjr> Paladine, what is acs in this context?
[01:50] <nu__> wweasel: you know where you go to add items to the taskbar?
[01:50] <pwuertz> hi, the ubuntu live cd is crashing when trying to install ubuntu... it happens somewhere at the partitioning step... any ideas whats the problem?
[01:50] <Paladine> if you want to write to ntfs either boot towindows, or run vmware
[01:50] <tanath> Seveas: i can download packages from them in firefox, but can't get apt to work with them
[01:51] <slaxy> Paladine: how does vmware help ?? for the already existing ntfs dirves
[01:51] <Paladine> mjr, acs stands for Access Control System iirc
[01:51] <wweasel> nu__: That's kinda vague. Do you mean when I right click on the top panel and select "Add to Panel..."?
[01:51] <ba5e> pwuertz: I had that...try creating fresh partitions
[01:51] <Nomad411> !server
[01:51] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments. The default install includes a server kernel and no GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current stable version is 6.06 LTS. For more info see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerFaq/
[01:51] <stewski> Im not sure I understand paladine as I understand it ntfs write underlinux doesnt support all ACL attributes buth thats a long way from it will definately destroy your partition?
[01:51] <Paladine> slaxy, you can instruct vmware to create a guest OS from an existing windows installation
[01:51] <nu__> wweasel: yes. on that window, there are two tabs at the top. click on "Custom application launcher"
[01:51] <wweasel> Done
[01:52] <mjr> Paladine, then it sounds to me like you don't know much of what you're talking about, frankly
[01:52] <nu__> wweasel: for "type", select Application
[01:52] <slaxy> Paladine: but then will it let me read/write ntfs drive ?
[01:52] <wweasel> nu__: Alright
[01:52] <nu__> wweasel: and for "command", do this: nautilus /path/to/dir
[01:52] <Paladine> mjr, ok you use something to write to ntfs from linux then, but don't come here complaining when you hose the partition
[01:52] <nu__> wweasel: youw ill also have to give it a name :p
[01:52] <mjr> Paladine, I won't and I don't, but access control is the least of your worries wrt. that
[01:53] <Paladine> slaxy, once you are running vmware with your existing windowsinstallation running as the guest OS, you can access the windows partitions via samba
[01:53] <pwuertz> ba5e, thx for the hint
[01:54] <minimec_afk> rdz: Hmmm... Your drive is recognized correctly, I guess...
[01:54] <slaxy> Paladine: hmm ok ...... also dont u think running vmware with 2 windows xp [in my case]  ... will be too heavy on my ram...
[01:54] <alienseer23> hello :)
[01:54] <stewski> agreed vmware sharing via samba is my prefered share method
[01:54] <stewski> though fat32 is alrighty
[01:54] <nu__> wweasel: if youre trying to link it to your home folder, just put "nautilus" for the command
[01:54] <Paladine> slaxy, it shouldn't be since you tell vmware how much ram to allocate to the guest OS
[01:54] <ba5e> pwuertz: there is a bug on launchpad about it too
[01:54] <stewski> and ext drivers in windows work fine
[01:54] <wweasel> nu__: alright. so it created an icon on the panel
[01:54] <nu__> wweasel: now edit the panel and put the icon in it
[01:55] <ajt> How would I go about getting a package into the ubuntu repository?
[01:55] <wweasel> nu__: how do I put that in the places menu?
[01:55] <alienseer23> Q: I can change partitions from ntfs to fat32 with partition magik without ANY data loss? ie, I don't need to back up my datda before reformatting? please?
[01:55] <slaxy> Paladine: thx for all the info.... where can i learn on how to use the guest OS thing
[01:55] <merty> i'm having problems with ubuntu :|
[01:55] <Paladine> slaxy, read the documentation for vmware
[01:55] <nu__> wweasel: good question. let me try
[01:55] <minimec_afk> rdz: And if you plug it, nautilus is showing you an ext3 device?
[01:55] <pwuertz> ba5e, sorry, where?
[01:55] <slaxy> ok
[01:56] <avis> rdz, i dont know :(
[01:56] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, u there?
[01:56] <rdz> minimec_afk, both: one ext3, one vfat
[01:56] <Paladine> alienseer, to my knowledge you cannot change ntfs to fat32 (although you can change fat32 to ntfs)
[01:56] <Jack_Sparrow> yep
[01:56] <rdz> avis, np. thanks anyway
[01:56] <merty> When i try to Compile the lastest xchat it fails
[01:56] <avis> what is the recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems and how do i adjust that for my usb drive ?
[01:56] <merty> :|
[01:56] <merty> checking for GLIB - version >= 2.0.3... no
[01:56] <merty> *** Could not run GLIB test program, checking why...
[01:56] <merty> *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the
[01:56] <merty> *** exact error that occured. This usually means GLIB is incorrectly installed.
[01:56] <merty> configure: error: "Cannot find glib"
[01:56] <minimec_afk> avis: iso...
[01:57] <alienseer23> I want to reformat to fat 32 for ubuntu...it's all ntfs, but I have ALOT of dada on my hard drives, other than backin gup the data, are there any options for me?
[01:57] <rdz> minimec_afk, both show up in the system monitor
[01:57] <bbrazil> Anti-Tedd: backups are the best way to go
[01:57] <Jack_Sparrow> alienseer23: shrink ntfs a bit for a fat32 shared partition
[01:57] <starscream[2] > Jack_sparrow, ok I installed it all ok and same prob with booting cant see windows or ubuntu
[01:57] <bbrazil> alienseer23: ^
[01:57] <rdz> minimec_afk, and i can umount the one that is dangerous..
[01:57] <wweasel> nu__: I found how.
[01:57] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, "reboot and select proper boot device"
[01:57] <minimec_afk> rdz: I can't help you. I dont'see any reason why nautilus should fire up an ext3 device, when you plug in a FAT32 device
[01:57] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : will sgr boot to xp for you?
[01:57] <nu__> wweasel: how?
[01:57] <ba5e> pwuertz: rosetta/launchpad
[01:58] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, I also ran the GRUB MBR repair
[01:58] <shimmi> hello
[01:58] <shimmi> my sound is gone
[01:58] <shimmi> i had good sound for sometime
[01:58] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, ill try now
[01:58] <rdz> minimec_afk, thanks anyway. may i should try once with another usb-controller
[01:58] <shimmi> and no it wont work at all
[01:58] <wweasel> nu__: Quote from forum post: "You can add folders using the file chooser (for example, file>open file in firefox). Select the folder you want and select add on the left side."
[01:58] <alienseer23> Jack Sparrow, I am trying to make the entire drive space shared...?
[01:58] <wweasel> nu__: But I greatly appreciate your help
[01:58] <avis> minimec_afk,  iso8859-01 ?
[01:58] <shimmi> any sound help?
[01:58] <Pokey> is this the ubuntu channel?
[01:59] <shimmi> yes
[01:59] <shimmi> ubuntu channel
[01:59] <minimec_afk> rdz: First.. try another external device.
[01:59] <nu__> wweasel: no problem =)
[01:59] <shimmi> my speakers work fine
[01:59] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, I get the same reboot and select....error when bootingw indows with sgr
[01:59] <shimmi> it has to do with gnome
[01:59] <shimmi> or the drivers
[01:59] <shimmi> how can i reinstall sound drivers
[01:59] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : boot xp  then F8 and fdisk /mbr
[01:59] <Seveas> !enter > shimmi
[01:59] <rdz> minimec_afk, i don't know the name for it: i meant another usbdevice without harddrive
[02:00] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : XP hates not being on 1
[02:00] <nu__> anyone know where the icons are located?
[02:00] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, shall i use xp cd?
[02:00] <stewski> fdisk /mbr that takes me back isnt that a bit out of date?
[02:00] <rdz> avis, how can you change the charset?
[02:00] <avis> rdz, i dont know
[02:00] <minimec_afk> rdz: Well.. a USB-Stick and a external harddrive are handled the same way by your system. It doesn't matter.
[02:00] <alienseer23> if I reformat my xp drive (ntfs) to fat 32 using partition magic, will I loose my xp operating system, anyone know?
[02:00] <avis> if you find out please leave me a message
[02:01] <Qwell> alienseer23: yes
[02:01] <Seveas> alienseer23, you will
[02:01] <stewski> I think so
[02:01] <Jack_Sparrow> alienseer23: yes
[02:01] <rdz> minimec_afk, i see. thanks
[02:01] <stewski> tjere is a conversion from fat to ntfs but not the other way
[02:01] <alienseer23> what about another partition with just misc. data on it, will I loose that data?
[02:01] <rdz> minimec_afk, i'll test as soon i have acces to one
[02:01] <Qwell> alienseer23: yes
[02:01] <minimec_afk> avis: Yeah. But... You don't need to change this. I have no prblem with my fat32 drive...
[02:01] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, unless I set XP as active and maybes use the ubuntu link that I set up before?
[02:01] <minimec_afk> rdz Yeah ;)
[02:02] <Qwell> alienseer23: changing filesystems is highly destructive
[02:02] <Pokey> does anyone know how i can install ubuntu from dos, i am having difficulties with commands and what not
[02:02] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : Im out of suggestions.. sorry
[02:02] <nullifx> when i connect to a computer with remote desktop if i use any color setting other than the default the whole remote desktop screen will be transparent...anyone know if there is a way to fix that?
[02:02] <alienseer23> the prog claims to save the data, but I cannot see how that would work out well
[02:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Wife needs me to help.... so I need to go soon
[02:02] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, ill try that and if not then I will fixmbr, that should get the windows bootloader back for sure shouldnt it?
[02:02] <Qwell> alienseer23: partition magic claims a lot of things
[02:02] <Jack_Sparrow> yea
[02:03] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, cool
[02:03] <alienseer23> will it resize a partition safely, data safe and all that?
[02:03] <tanath> is anyone else having problems with the seveas repositories?
[02:03] <starscream[2] > Jack_sparrow, i dont understand tho how it isnt working, even grub in MBR
[02:03] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : blame xp
[02:03] <alienseer23> eh...i'll just back it up anyway
[02:03] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, do you think XP not being on 1 is not allowing anything to boot let alone itself?
[02:03] <alienseer23> anybody offer a partitioning tool that does not require reboot...under xp?
[02:04] <minerale> where does GDM keep all it's 'session' files? ie it allow me to start gnome, or kde, or just a failsafe terminal... where is that saved? (where are those files?)
[02:05] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : You might want to format 1 as ntfs and install second copy of xp on it basic system then copy 2 down over it...
[02:05] <oblib> does anyone know about the gamecon module kernel issue and how to fix it?
[02:05] <alienseer23> i loose interest in non-boot partitioning in 3...2...1 eh..I can just do it with a few reboots :) looking forward to using my linux, be back after a few reformats :)
[02:05] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, if i do that I will backup all my stuff to disk and just wipe it and start from scratch me thinks
[02:05] <minerale> where does GDM keep all it's 'session' files? ie it allow me to start gnome, or kde, or just a failsafe terminal... where is this saved? (ie, if I want to add another session manually)
[02:06] <Pokey> Anyone here efficient with does commands and the like?
[02:06] <Pokey> dos*
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : best idea so far...  xp on 1 leave unal;located space for Ub to use automatically
[02:06] <Qwell> Pokey: You want #dos
[02:06] <gnomefreak> Pokey: ubuntu doesnt use dos
[02:06] <Pokey> yeah i am in dos trying to instal ubuntu
[02:06] <Qwell> uhh
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Pokey: not gonna happen
[02:06] <gnomefreak> is that even possible?
[02:07] <Pokey> what would be my advised course of action then?
[02:07] <Qwell> boot a ubuntu install CD
[02:07] <gnomefreak> Pokey: stick the ubuntu install cd in and install it
[02:07] <Pokey> right, but i can't get the comp to boot from CD
[02:07] <gnomefreak> ^^^ just a thought
[02:07] <Qwell> so use a floppy
[02:07] <gnomefreak> Pokey: dos isnt gonna help you there
[02:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Pokey: have you checked cmos bios settings?
[02:08] <tanath> Pokey: restart and edit the bios settings
[02:08] <Pokey> i havent been able to acces my bios
[02:08] <tanath> Pokey: make sure it's set to boot from cd first
[02:08] <Pokey> cant find the button to bring it up and change my boot order
[02:08] <jon_> does anyone know how to setup nicotine?
[02:08] <tanath> Pokey: why not?
[02:08] <tanath> Pokey: try DEL, or F1
[02:08] <Pokey> I have tried all the common keys
[02:08] <Pokey> F1-F12, esc, del
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Pokey: what kind of PC.. some use delete, others F1 just to see the boot info
[02:09] <Pokey> Not really sure this box is ancient
[02:09] <mnvl> it usually tells you on the boot screen
[02:09] <gnomefreak> Pokey: who makes the pc
[02:09] <Tutter> Wireless Question: eth1 tells me its active, I did enter essid and pw under properties however... my network is set to WEP and channel 11 - any idea how I can get ubuntu to connect to my home network ?
[02:09] <Pokey> yeah i am confused because it doesnt tell me
[02:09] <tanath> Pokey: have you booted to CDs on there bfore?
[02:09] <Pokey> not on this one
[02:09] <gnomefreak> Pokey: how did you install dos?
[02:10] <Pokey> i just used a boot disc for 98 which was on before and treid to get it to boot from cd
[02:10] <gimmulf> hmm having problems mounting 2 partitions
[02:10] <gimmulf> it saus specify filesystem
[02:10] <minimec_afk> Tutter: if you use gnome install the gnome-netowrk-manager
[02:10] <gimmulf> tried mount -t auto /dev/hda1 /mnt/hdb1
[02:10] <gnomefreak> !install
[02:10] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[02:10] <gnomefreak> Pokey: there is a few ways read ^^
[02:11] <Qwell> gimmulf: does /mnt/hdb1 exist?
[02:11] <Qwell> erm, nm
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> gimmulf: what type of partitions?
[02:11] <Qwell> gimmulf: change the auto to something else.  not all filesystems can be "detected"
[02:11] <gimmulf> Qwell: yes
[02:11] <gimmulf> Jack_Sparrow:  ext2 i think
[02:11] <gimmulf> Jack_Sparrow:  mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda2,
[02:12] <gimmulf> when sudo mount -t ext2 /dev/hda2 /mnt/hdb2
[02:12] <Tutter> mini: it tells me its installed
[02:12] <oblib> GAMECON: does anyone know about the gamecon module kernel issue and how to fix it?
[02:12] <Qwell> gimmulf: Then it isn't ext2
[02:12] <gimmulf> (aren't you trying to mount an extended partition, instead of some logical partition inside?)
[02:12] <Jack_Sparrow> gimmulf: use the partition program to identify what you are working with.. gparted.. I think
[02:12] <gimmulf> dmesg says: [4337152.565000]  hda2: rw=0, want=4, limit=2
[02:12] <gimmulf> [4337152.565000]  EXT2-fs: unable to read superblock
[02:13] <gimmulf> ok Jack_Sparrow
[02:13] <NineTeen67Comet> Anyone here use the Ubuntu server edition? I'm having issues using the web access (192.168.0.2:631) to access my server's cups config stuff (I get the main page, then error 403 for admin, or printer add) .. help?
[02:13] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, k I fixed MBR and used the link to ubuntu but it still bloody says LILO at the top, is this right, should it not be refering to LILO at all?
[02:13] <minimec_afk> Tutter: So you should have an applet for the gnome taskbar. Normally it fires up automaticly. It'a kind of 'screen'-icon
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> starscream[2] : no
[02:13] <Pokey> thanks for the information gnomefreak, i guess i am off to make a new boot disk, will be back later if i have more problems
[02:13] <ugah> hi
[02:14] <Tutter> mini: if its on the top right hand side ( two monitors, one behidn other ) it's there but tells me no connection
[02:14] <gimmulf> Jack_Sparrow: they are Extended 3
[02:14] <ugah> using ubuntu dapper on ppc (ibook), how can I make a certain command execute whenever the laptop comes out of sleep?
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> gimmulf: I cant start another issue now, I need to leave..
[02:14] <inazad> I have a serious problem. My GNOME session takes 3 minutes to open.. Normally, it's take 3-4 sec..
[02:14] <gimmulf> hehe ok
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> gimmulf: SOmeone else will be able to help you.
[02:15] <NineTeen67Comet> On the cups screen when using a browser to access it, I'm told to use System > Administration > Printing .. it's a headless server ..
[02:15] <starscream[2] > Jack_Sparrow, thanks for the help, catch u later!
[02:16] <minimec_afk> Tutter: this could also be the 'normal' gnome-network-applet. The network-manager should show you the wlan's around...
[02:16] <Jack_Sparrow> star you know what you need, sorry we couldt get xp working the way it should
[02:16] <minimec_afk> Tutter: Try the right mouse button
[02:17] <SeaRunner> ok now ive got hyla fax installed how do I actually use it???
[02:17] <Tutter> hmm
[02:18] <Tutter> will gnome network manager be able to use TKIP+AES  for algorithms?
[02:18] <Aberrant22> wow, just realized Terminal has tabs (like firefox)  Sweet... (sorry, newbie here)
[02:18] <SeaRunner> where is the hyla fax graphic user interface
[02:18] <ugah> how can I make a command execute whenever my laptop returns from sleep?
[02:18] <minimec_afk> Tutter: I have no idea...
[02:18] <inazad> anyone can help me ?
[02:19] <Hedgie> Where is Kubuntu storing my screen resolution?  The Menu->Settings->Display will let me set resolutions that stay after restart, but they aren't in /etc/X11/xorg.conf -- anyone know where they are?
[02:19] <Spectator> Greetings
[02:19] <Spectator> I'm having a small problem and I'm wondering if anyone can help me with it ;)
[02:20] <Tutter> lets see... I changed it to WPA and TKIP
[02:20] <dmitriy> im trying to mount ntfs partiotion with write permissions, could anyone help?
[02:20] <Spectator> Well- I'm running Ubuntu 5.10? - All works fine, but I can't get on the internet when it boots because the WEP key for my wireless keeps getting.. lost and I have to type iwconfig key keyhere
[02:20] <starscream[2] > MY GOD IT WORKS!
[02:21] <Spectator> So I'm wondering if anyone can help me make a startup script to enter it, or to just save the key
[02:21] <Hedgie> dmitriy -- Have you seen http://www.linux-ntfs.org/
[02:21] <Tutter> no dice :-P
[02:21] <Flannel> !tell dmitriy about fuse
[02:22] <Tutter> bah
[02:22] <Tutter> "SET failed on device eth2 ; Operation not permitted"
[02:22] <minimec_afk> Spectator: You can configure that in /etc/network/interfaces. see man ifup/ifdown
[02:22] <Aberrant22> Anyone familiar with Samba?
[02:22] <dmitriy> looking right now, i been here before, right now i have read permissions. I tried following some guide and it didnt work
[02:22] <Nomad411> Hi.. I'm looking at installing Ubuntu Server to play with it. Why can I choose bewteen install and "install a LAMP server"?  If I don,t chose LAMP, will it not install apache?
[02:23] <Aberrant22> I'm using it for my vmware xp installation, but have to restart the samba service to get it to connect properly
[02:23] <Aberrant22> Nomad411: If you select install it won't install apache, but you can always install the latest with apt-get install apache
[02:23] <Nomad411> k
[02:24] <minimec_afk> Spectator: Another way is to use a gui like the network-manager-applet
[02:25] <avallach> I have a nvidia geforce4 mx 420 (nv17s) in my Dapper box - everything worked great with the nvidia driver for a long time but a couple weeks ago it started locking up (usually when a screensaver came on), i reverted to the nv driver & no lockups...anybody know why nvidia stopped working?
[02:25] <Spectator> minimec_afk well I typed it in the network applet and it didn't work for some reason
[02:25] <Tutter> wonder why it won't le me do iwconfig on eth1 or eth2
[02:25] <Spectator> but when I used iwconfig to do it it worked
[02:25] <Spectator> I'll try the first one though
[02:25] <Aberrant22> Tutter: What chipset you got?  I'm having a similar problem with my broadcom...trying to solve it now tho http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[02:26] <Hedgie> Spectator -- Try putting the key in /etc/network/interfaces
[02:26] <minimec_afk> Spectator: you have the choice to enter different kind of code, like Hex, or normal password...
[02:26] <inazad> quit
[02:26] <Tutter> Aberr: Broadcom as well
[02:26] <Hedgie> Insert wireless-key xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
[02:27] <Aberrant22> Tutter: Okay, yeah...broadcom is a royal pain...it actually showed up when I installed the 6.06, but still not working yet
[02:27] <dmitriy> Flannel -- Do you prefer using fuse? Doesnt it damage your data?
[02:27] <Aberrant22> I'll let you know if it works from that tutorial
[02:28] <Hedgie> Does anyone know what file is storing my display resolution?
[02:28] <Tutter> Aberr: exactly my problem...
[02:28] <Gumby> does anyone know if there is an amd64 channel for ubuntu?
[02:28] <Tutter> shows up, but cant get it to connect
[02:28] <Nomad411> Hedgie: you mean xorg.conf?
[02:28] <Hedgie> Naomd -- It's not in there.
[02:29] <mathieu_> i'm trying to mount an iso in xubuntu but I'm getting : ioctl: LOOP_SET_FD: Invalid argument
[02:29] <Hedgie> I can adjust the resolution with the Display Manager, but my xorg.conf doesn't change.
[02:29] <appe> oi
[02:29] <Hedgie> I'm using xubuntu, with nvidia drivers.
[02:29] <Aberrant22> Okay, gonna reboot and see if it works.  Wish me luck
[02:29] <Nomad411> ahh, ok
[02:29] <appe> how can i modify my bars?
[02:29] <appe> i see on various pictures that peoples gnome stuff are shortened and in other colors then the themes i have.
[02:29] <Spectator> Hedgie: The key is in there.. it just.. isn't when the system boots
[02:30] <Hedgie> Appe- Pick a theme in the Window Manager Settings
[02:30] <appe> i managed to change and install themes, but it didnt change the sizes
[02:30] <Hedgie> Spectator.  Oh.  Well.
[02:30] <appe> Hedgie: i have, but its not as in the screenshots
[02:30] <appe> let me show you.
[02:30] <minimec_afk> Hedgie: Your xorg.conf will not change, because this is gnome or kde related. Every user can chosse his favorite resolution. The xorg.conf entries are the default entries.
[02:30] <appe> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=43282&file1=43282-1.png&file2=43282-2.jpg&file3=&name=Murrina+Gperfection
[02:30] <appe> like that
[02:30] <appe> the upper bar is in the middle
[02:30] <Hedgie> Spectator -- Have you tried putting a start-up script in your startup scripts (rc.x) directory?
[02:31] <appe> mine is still from end to end
[02:31] <Hedgie> minimec -- So for Kubuntu, where is that file?
[02:31] <Hedgie> appe -- Most of the themes go end-to-end.
[02:31] <Hedgie> Appe- A few don't (Demon, Tux come to mind)
[02:31] <appe> Hedgie: how do i change bar sizes and stuff
[02:32] <appe> then
[02:32] <appe> if the theme isnt responsible for it. :)
[02:32] <appe> i tried google, but i dont know what to google after. :D
[02:32] <gekko`> i had read somewhere that you can mount .bin/.cue files w/o having to burn them, anybody knows how?
[02:32] <minimec_afk> Hedgie: I have no idea. 1st I am using gnome, and 2nd even in gnome I don't now where I could find that.
[02:32] <goonies> i installed a newer version of a driver included with dapper, how can i make sure my system is using the newer version of the driver instead of the old one
[02:33] <Megaqwerty> I was wondering where I could find the page on a live-cd for ubuntu so I can try it out first.
[02:33] <goonies> i didnt delete the old one and i believe it is in a different location than the one i installed
[02:33] <Hedgie> I'll try #kubuntu, I guess
[02:33] <Spectator> Hedgie: not quite sure how to do that
[02:33] <CokeNCode> ok guys ... trying to get this tv card to work ... and i'm altering the options ... how do i reload it so that it uses the saved changes to the modprobe file ... without rebooting my pc
[02:33] <nocarrier> 
[02:34] <Hedgie> Spectator -- Create a file with a name like S999_iwconfig, and inside it put the commands you manually run to get the wireless card to work
[02:34] <Megaqwerty> anyone?
[02:34] <Spectator> Hedgie: okay- thanks a lot
[02:34] <nocarrier> Megaqwerty: type ubuntu.org
[02:34] <Megaqwerty> thanks
[02:34] <appe> anyone got any ideas on how to cuztomize desktop?
[02:35] <Hedgie> Make sure it has 700 permissions "sudo chmod 700 filename" and put it in the /etc/rcx.d/ directories
[02:35] <nocarrier> appe: as far as what?
[02:35] <Hedgie> The numbers mean the different runlevels -- man runlevel for info on those
[02:35] <appe> nocarrier: i have managed to change theme, but that just changed colors for me.
[02:35] <Spectator>  Hedgie: where exactly is rc.x?
[02:35] <Hedgie> In /etc
[02:35] <appe> i want to shrinken the bars on the desktop
[02:35] <nocarrier> appe: ok, so choose 'Theme Details'... one of the buttons on the right
[02:35] <appe> oh
[02:35] <appe> ok
[02:36] <minimec_afk> Hedgie: What you can do, if you have a problem with resolution, is to rename the .kde directories in your /home directory. That should give you a clean kde Desktop with default resolution ;)
[02:36] <Hedgie> Every script in rcx.d runs whenever the computer starts in runlevel x
[02:36] <fiveiron> wth... nautilus can browse /media/cdrom0 just fine, but i dont see a thing when i "ls" /media/cdrom0 ...   0.o
[02:36] <Shak-> is there a program to list all folders and subfolders in a drive by size?
[02:36] <Spectator> Hedgie: the dir rc.x or rcd.x isn't there..?
[02:36] <Hedgie> minimec -- Well, I don't have KDE installed, and my problem is I don't want the default resolution. :)
[02:36] <Tweak> Could anyone help me? I just installed ubuntu, I got no error while installing. But when I run ubuntu, I get a graphical error
[02:36] <nocarrier> Tweak: what error?
[02:36] <Hedgie> Spectator -- Yes, instead of x they are numbers.  Like /etc/rc5.d, or /etc/rc2.d
[02:37] <Tweak> It says that there was a graphical problem
[02:37] <appe> nocarrier: well, that didnt change more the colors and small things either
[02:37] <minimec_afk> Hedgie: So change it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf That is still possible ;)
[02:37] <appe> the bars are unaffected except the colorchange
[02:37] <Hedgie> Spectator -- I think by default you only need to put it in /etc/rc2.d
[02:37] <Tweak> nocarrier tells me to check wiki.x.org
[02:37] <rgrant> hi again.  seems i got disconnected.  did anyone hanve an answer to the preseed question using cdrom + usb for preseed file?
[02:37] <nocarrier> Tweak: ok, so X gives you the error?
[02:37] <Hedgie> minimec -- Nope, it's ignoring my resolution in xorg.conf and using xfce's resolution
[02:38] <Tweak> nocarrier: not sure
[02:38] <nocarrier> nocarrier: do you get into X or no?
[02:38] <nocarrier> hehe
[02:38] <nocarrier> Tweak: do you get into X or no/
[02:38] <Shak-> is there a program to list all folders and subfolders in a drive by size?
[02:38] <Spectator> ok
[02:38] <Spectator> thanks
[02:39] <Hedgie> Shak -- du
[02:39] <Tutter> YES!
[02:39] <Tweak> nocarrier: I dont remember, I will have to see it again, can you wait a moment?
[02:39] <Tutter> wireless is now working
[02:39] <Tutter> sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
[02:39] <minimec_afk> Hedgie: rename the .kde dir and change the xorg.conf. This should work...
[02:39] <nocarrier> Tweak: heh... do you get a GUI or no?
[02:40] <Tweak> nocarrier:  I dont know what a GUI is
[02:40] <nocarrier> Tweak: gui = windows... console = DOS
[02:40] <Tutter> g'bye winblows
[02:40] <Hedgie> Minim -- I'll try.  brb
[02:40] <Tweak> ahh
[02:40] <rgrant> any experts here on unattended installs?
[02:40] <Tweak> nocarrier: I think is console
[02:41] <dmitriy> Can anyone tell me if fuse is safe to use and if data gets corrupted/damaged
[02:41] <Tweak> nocarrier:  I installed before ubuntu in othe computers before without having problems
[02:41] <Animatus> OK I have Gentoo with Lilo and I just installed Ubuntu however, it didn't overwrite my MBR so I need to add it manually. Does anybody know how to load ubuntu in Lilo?
[02:41] <nocarrier> Tweak: hmm... you can try looking at /var/log/xorg.log.0 for anything that starts with (EE)
[02:41] <Hedgie> minimec -- .kde wasn't recreated.  Didn't think it would be, since I'm not running KDE.  I've got xfce
[02:42] <Tweak> nocarrier: now it seems it tries to run the Login windows, and I get a graphical error
[02:42] <Shak-> can I run du non-recursively?
[02:42] <rgrant> anim: tell lilo which partition to boot, and ubuntu install will go from there
[02:42] <Tweak> nocarrier: how?
[02:42] <nicholas2aul> Ok - so how do i unmount a drive when everything i try says'drive is busy' ?
[02:42] <Hedgie> Shak -- Try du -h --max-depth 1
[02:42] <dmitriy> Can anyone tell me if fuse is safe to use and if data gets corrupted/damaged
[02:42] <alex-weej> nicholas2aul: screwdriver
[02:43] <nocarrier> Tweak: what is on the screen right now?
[02:43] <minimec_afk> Animatus: read the man page of lilo. It doesn't matter what distribution you start. Just indicate the right /dev/hda* ;)
[02:43] <Aberrant22> Tutter: Still there?  I've got my open wireless working from that tutorial
[02:43] <sethk> Hedgie, I think you mean du -sh
[02:43] <rgrant> nic: make sure your shells are not in directories of that drive
[02:43] <nocarrier> alex-weej: hehe
[02:43] <nicholaspaul> alex-weej: will a hammer work ?
[02:43] <Animatus> minimec_afk, ok, thanks
[02:43] <Tweak> nocarrier:  it asks me the login and the password, but not the regular logon screen
[02:43] <alex-weej> nicholaspaul: hammer will only work as root
[02:43] <oktoko> it is true that ubuntu version of the 'man' command is 'ape' ???
[02:43] <Hedgie> sethk -- If that's what you'd prefer.
[02:43] <nicholaspaul> alex-weej: lol
[02:44] <Hedgie> okt -- Nope.
[02:44] <Shak-> Hedgie: ok, now it appears to be hanging
[02:44] <minimec_afk> Hedgie: Sorry ... xfce! Never worked with xfce... well there must be some .config files...
[02:44] <dmitriy> Can anyone tell me if fuse is safe to use and if data gets corrupted/damaged
[02:44] <sethk> Hedgie, it isn't what I prefer, it's what du allows
[02:44] <Aberrant22> Tutter: Though the wireless device isn't showing up in my network-manager icon...just my regular network icons
[02:44] <nocarrier> Tweak: ok, log on, and do a 'cat /var/log/Xorg.log.0 | less' (without the quotes)
[02:44] <Tweak> nocarrier:  and after that?
[02:44] <Animatus> minimec_afk, is the Ubuntu Kernel the initrd.img-2.6....?
[02:44] <Qwell> Animatus: no
[02:44] <Tutter> Aberrant: mine's working
[02:45] <Hedgie> sethk -- They're two different things -s shows a summary, --max-depth stops it from display subdirectories.
[02:45] <nocarrier> Tweak: that will put the file on the screen so you can read it... use the up and down arrows to move around
[02:45] <Hedgie> Try them, they both do different things than just du -h
[02:45] <Tutter> Aberrant: I have bars and all...
[02:45] <alex-weej> Hedgie, sethk, -s is the same as --max-depth 0, not --max-depth 1
[02:45] <Animatus> Qwell, OK, what file is the kernel?
[02:45] <Qwell> either bzImage, vmlinuz, or kernel probably
[02:45] <Flannel> dmitriy: fuse has a factoid.  All writing to NTFS at the moment is dodgy at best.  Although it's getting closer.
[02:45] <Shak-> Hedgie: yeah max-depth 1 was what I needed
[02:45] <Hedgie> alex -- Good point, thanks.
[02:46] <ugah> how can I make a command execute whenever my laptop returns from sleep?
[02:46] <sethk> Hedgie, quoted from the man page:  "--max-depth=0" is the same as --summaraize.  However I didn't know you could use max-depth with du.
[02:46] <nocarrier> Animatus: vmlinuz-2.6.....
[02:46] <nicholaspaul> So how do i make a drive non-busy?
[02:46] <Animatus> nocarrier, thanks!
[02:46] <nicholaspaul> (sedatives aside...)
[02:46] <minimec_afk> Animatus: Well... It depends on the kernel-Version
[02:46] <sethk> Hedgie, however, the result is identical:  du -sh *
[02:46] <rgrant> any experts here on unattended installs?  i am trying to use a preseed file and need to specify its location on USB stick.  what is synctax for this location?
[02:46] <nocarrier> nicholaspaul: make sure you aren't in any directories that are on the drive
[02:46] <alex-weej> nicholaspaul: quit out of any shells that are open and currently inside directories on the filesystem you're trying to unmount
[02:47] <Shak-> Hedgie: it seems to be extremely slow though, does it have to probe through all folders and subfolders to give the final root folder size?
[02:47] <minimec_afk> Animatus: The link in root is 'initrd.img'
[02:47] <Aberrant22> Tutter: Awesome.  I'm gonna tweak my /etc/network/interfaces file.  I think that may be the issue (other tuts showed deleting all but the lo interface from that file)
[02:47] <nocarrier> minimec_afk: the link to what?
[02:47] <wasauce> how can i determine what network driver I am using on my ubuntu machine
[02:47] <sethk> Shak-, yes..  if it is a mounted partition, df -h will give you the free space quickly.  otherwise, you have to wait.
[02:47] <Shak-> ah ok
[02:47] <Animatus> minimec_afk, the link?
[02:48] <Aberrant22> brb
[02:48] <Tutter> Aberr: theo nly thing I have active in that file is lo and eth1
[02:48] <nicholaspaul> nocarrier: alex-weej praps a restart.. ok thanks! gotta feed the fam
[02:48] <alex-weej> cya :)
[02:48] <nu> anyone uses gdesklets here?
[02:48] <Shak-> sethk: you mean it only gives free space quicly for the root partion?
[02:48] <nocarrier> later
[02:48] <ugah> how can I make a command execute whenever my laptop returns from sleep?
[02:48] <minimec_afk> I have a link in / with the name initrd.img that links to my kernel in /boot
[02:48] <Shak-> I am running the command on a mounted partition, yet its slow (ntfs partition if that makes any difference)
[02:49] <nocarrier> initrd.img = module image, vmlinuz = kernel
[02:49] <nocarrier> module(s)
[02:49] <ugah> i currently have to ifup/ifdown my wlan nic manually after every suspend/wake ;(
[02:50] <appe> btw, where can i find frame-less terminals?
[02:50] <Animatus> Why did Ubuntu not provide a boot option on the installation? It's weird
[02:50] <Hedgie> ugah -- I don't know how to trigger an event to a wake, but have you tried just making a script to do that, then sticking an icon on your taskbar?
[02:50] <appe> btw, where can i find frame-less terminals, that are transparent and ..good? :p
[02:50] <wasauce> anyone got some advice on how i can determine the  network driver I am using on my ubuntu machine
[02:50] <rgrant> Animatus: there's always root=blah
[02:51] <nocarrier> wasauce: lspci ;)
[02:51] <nocarrier> or lsmod
[02:51] <ugah> Hedgie, yeah, well, klicking on some icon and then waiting still is bad. nearly exactly as bad as executing the commands which i do not have to type thanks to ^R anyway
[02:51] <Animatus> rgrant, Yea
[02:51] <wasauce> nocarrier: thank you i will try that
[02:52] <appe> anyone know any neat terminals? :)
[02:52] <nocarrier> wasauce: np... if you have an idea of that it is, lsmod will tell you
[02:52] <Hedgie> ugah -- Yeah, there's gotta be a cron or something that can detect wake events, but I don't know of one.
[02:52] <ugah> Hedgie, but thanks for showing me that my messages to this channel can in fact be read :)
[02:52] <nocarrier> appe: shells?
[02:52] <Hedgie> lol
[02:52] <ymmotrojam> anyone here use bind DNS?
[02:53] <nocarrier> ymmotrojam: i do
[02:53] <ugah> Hedgie, best thing sure would be if downing/uping the nic after sleep would not be necassary at all :)
[02:53] <holycow> anyone have experience with hardware raid?  if you have raid 1 hardware raid ... and it is supposedly enabled, when you go to install debian/ubuntu/whatever, it should ONLY see one logical drive in the partitioner, correct?
[02:53] <appe> btw
[02:53] <appe> how do i change my sources for apt-get?
[02:53] <ugah> Hedgie, is it normal that one has to do that in order to get wep going again?
[02:54] <nocarrier> holycow: you SURE it's hw raid?
[02:54] <Hedgie> ugah -- Does it cut power to the nic in sleep?  If so, yes.
[02:54] <minimec_afk> ugah: well the suspend/wake up is a acpi event. You have to try there
[02:54] <ymmotrojam> I'm needing some help with it. I'm somewhat of a n00b when it comes to it... I recently upgraded my ubuntu dapper server, and it upgraded bind8 to bind9... it's now not resolving my domains to properly...
[02:54] <holycow> nocarrier, nocarrier well i'm HOPING it's hardware raid, if its not, the ibm rep screwed me and i will be very upset on monday
[02:54] <ugah> minimec_afk, i dont think my laptop has acpi
[02:54] <nocarrier> holycow: what chipset?
[02:54] <ugah> Hedgie, not sure, its builtin
[02:55] <Tweak> nocarrier: I get this error: Error when running X server(your graphical interface) posibly is not corretly configured. Would you like to see the exit of the X server?
[02:55] <nocarrier> ymmotrojam: is rndc/bind loading properly?
[02:55] <CokeNCode> guys, when i type 'rmmod saa7134' i get the error 'Module saa7134 is already in use by saa7134_alsa'
[02:55] <CokeNCode> how can i fix this ?
[02:55] <nocarrier> coke: try modprobe
[02:55] <CokeNCode> could htis be the reason why my tv tuner card is giving me so much hell
[02:55] <nocarrier> or try unloading the other module first
[02:55] <ymmotrojam> yes, it's starting and stopping fine, it just doesn't seem to be caring about any of the conf files in /etc/bind
[02:56] <CokeNCode> nocarrier, what ?
[02:56] <appe> uhm, how do i change my sources again, i cant find anything with apt-get as it is.
[02:56] <CokeNCode> how is modprobe gonna help? rmmod is a precursor to doing modprobe
[02:56] <nocarrier> ymmotrojam: i believe Bind 9 is chrooted by default
[02:56] <CokeNCode> and nocarrier isn't that what rmmod is for ... 'unloading the module'
[02:56] <holycow> nocarrier, labeled aic-7902w ... it is labeled adaptec/ibm ultra 320 scsi controller supposedly capable of raid 1
[02:56] <minimec_afk> appe: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:56] <ugah> CokeNCode, rmmod sa7134_alsa first? :)
[02:57] <nocarrier> CokeNCode: heh.... modprobe tries to remove dependant modules
[02:57] <Tweak> nocarrier: I get this error: Error when running X server(your graphical interface) posibly is not corretly configured. Would you like to see the exit of the X server?
[02:57] <appe> minimec_afk: oh, thanks
[02:57] <CokeNCode> ugah, thanks ...
[02:57] <minimec_afk> appe: ;)
[02:57] <nocarrier> Tweak: that doesn't really say much... any other (EE) lines?
[02:57] <ugah> oO
[02:58] <Tweak> nocarrier: EE?
[02:58] <nocarrier> Tweak: yes, any lines that start with (EE) are errors in the log
[02:58] <nocarrier> (WW) = warnings (II) = information
[02:58] <Tutter> ahhhhh
[02:58] <nullifx> hi all...when i use remote desktop with compiz running, the remote desktop screen will show up almost completly transparent if colors are set to 16 or 24 bit.  anyone know how to get it to work at 16 or 24 bit color?
[02:58] <Tutter> sweet apt-get once you're connected
[02:59] <Jenkens> whee
[02:59] <ymmotrojam> nocarrier: so what do you think I should do. I know this probably isn't the best thing in the world, but I'm using webmin to configure it. I see a chroot option in webmin. what should I change that to?
[02:59] <oblib> gamecon module question: does anyone know about the gamecon module kernel issue and how to fix it? it causes a seg fault
[03:00] <Tweak> nocarrier:  you know when ubuntu is starting, you get a status bar and a log with the things are working, and what is no working? everything is working, after that, I get that error
[03:00] <nocarrier> Tweak: that means X isn't starting
[03:00] <nu_> guys
[03:01] <nu_> Is there a way to open a terminal with a command?
[03:01] <nocarrier> ymmotrojam: you need to put your zones in that chroot, and modify your named.conf appropriately
[03:01] <ugah> nu, gnome-terminal? :)
[03:01] <Tweak> nocarrier: is anything I can do to fix it?
[03:01] <nocarrier> AIC-7902 is just a plain SCSi controller. the so-called 'hostRAID' is just a BIOS routing software RAID, and there are no linux 2.6 drivers available for Adaptec hostRAID
[03:01] <nocarrier> Tweak: sorry, without seeing the log file, or knowing specifically is failing, I can't help
[03:02] <nu_> ugah: no, just Terminal (xfce). id like to open it and automatically run irssi
[03:02] <holycow> nocarrier, wow.
[03:02] <holycow> nocarrier, thank you very much for that information.  that explains everything
[03:02] <nocarrier> (from Google ;)
[03:02] <nu_> ugah: i added it to my taskbar. when i click it, Terminal opens. but id like it to open and run irssi
[03:02] <holycow> i am going to be very loud on monday.
[03:02] <ugah> nu, if it is anything like gnome-terminal or aterm, it has a -e command line switch that lets you specify a command to run
[03:02] <holycow> nocarrier, thank you, i guess i didn't google that up properly.  appreciate it.
[03:02] <Tweak> nocarrier: ok, thank you anyways, I will have to continue using windows...
[03:03] <nocarrier> np ;)
[03:03] <Geoffrey2> does mplayer play audio files as well as video files?
[03:03] <holycow> nocarrier, is 3ware the preffered linux raid card then?
[03:03] <ugah> Geoffrey2, yes
[03:03] <Tutter> ..isnt there a place where you can download the kool effects for the desktop ( like Mac has now.. cascading windows that are semi-transparent, etc) ?
[03:03] <ferrouswheel> Hey all, I have grub installed and menu.lst exists, but when I boot grub drops into the commandline. i think i have rerun grub-install at some stage, any ideas how to fix it so the menu shows up by default? (I use "configfile (hd0,0)/grub/menu.lst" to load the menu manually at the moment)
[03:03] <Geoffrey2> ugah, so if I have mplayer installed, is there any point in keeping gstreamer installed?
[03:03] <nocarrier> holycow: it seems like the 3ware 8006-2lp is the ticket
[03:03] <nu> ugah: so i'd do something like Terminal -e irssi ?
[03:04] <sethk> ferrouswheel, run grub from the command line, then use the root and setup commands.
[03:04] <imago> how do i access my hard drive
[03:04] <ugah> Geoffrey2, gstreamer and mplayer are two different things that do different hings :)
[03:04] <holycow> nocarrier, thank you.  god i hate big companies.  thats it i'm only buying from penguin computing from now on
[03:04] <ugah> nu, yeah. read the manpage Terminal sure has for more details on the switch
[03:04] <sethk> ferrouswheel, most likely   root (hd0)         then         setup (hd0)
[03:04] <StyXman> I just messed up with my X fonts. does anybody know in which package is the 'fixed' font located? I thought is wa the xfonts-base...
[03:04] <ugah> nu, or ask #xfce or #xubuntu, they sure know more about this partivular beast
[03:04] <nu> ugah: will do. thanks! =)
[03:05] <ferrouswheel> kay, thanks sethk - will check it out
[03:05] <sethk> ferrouswheel, no,wait
[03:05] <nu> ugah: im on ubuntu. i just really like the xfce term lol
[03:05] <Jenkens> hrm
[03:05] <nocarrier> holycow: best to do your homework on something like that...
[03:05] <Jenkens> why the heck would xfce come up without the panel control or task selector
[03:05] <sethk> ferrouswheel, it won't be root (hd0,0)        because you have a separate boot partition
[03:05] <orbin> imago: is it mounted?
[03:05] <ugah> nu, whats better compared to gnome-terminal?
[03:05] <sethk> ferrouswheel, so it will be      root (hd0,#)         where # is 0 for hda1, 1 for hda2, etc.
[03:05] <ferrouswheel> ah ok
[03:05] <imago> what is mounted
[03:05] <orbin> Jenkens: xubuntu?  or you just installed xfce?
[03:05] <nu> ugah: i make the background 100% transparent. and no boreders or menubar. but when i need to resize it, i press control+2 and the borders appear, then i can resize it.
[03:06] <StyXman> ugah: personally, konsole for features/keyboard transparency and xterm for speed
[03:06] <CokeNCode> ok, right, i'm completely miffed, and i'm giving up on getting this tv card to work in ubuntu
[03:06] <CokeNCode> quesiton ...
[03:06] <ferrouswheel> sethk, i always get confused whether root is the boot directory or root filesystem - although that sounds dumb now i think about it
[03:06] <Jenkens> just insalled xfce
[03:06] <ugah> nu, ok, so only optical )hence completly unimportant) stuff? ,p
[03:06] <imago> ok answer this first is there any manual or info guide to get myself aquainted to ubuntu
[03:07] <CokeNCode> i have a windows hard drive here, that was in my other pc, before it crashed (was dual booting xp and ubuntu) if i edit the grup configuration file to dual boot that windows drive ... will it work in this new computer ?
[03:07] <nu> ugah: im fairly new to linux. so i dont really notice perfomance difference. =D
[03:07] <ugah> StyXman, you know xterm is not half as fast as gnome-terminal in terms of text-display-performance, right? :)
[03:07] <Aberrant22> Hello everyone.  I'm now running my wireless (broadcom) through WPA
[03:07] <ugah> nu, i was more looking for a feature-difference
[03:07] <sethk> CokeNCode, xp sometimes walk balk at booting if it isn't hda1
[03:07] <Aberrant22> I know it doesn't sound like much, but I'm freakin' happy
[03:07] <nocarrier> Aberrant22: congrats!
[03:07] <ugah> nu, performance in terminal emulators is not really important, in the end they all are fast enough :)
[03:07] <nu> ugah: don't know. but i press arrow-up and arrow-down to navigate through used commands. thats pretty much all i need
[03:07] <Geoffrey2> wow, they've got a SID decoder...now that's really going way back
[03:08] <StyXman> ugah: you mean scrolling text?
[03:08] <ugah> nu, thats a shell feature, nothing to do with the terminal emulator ;)
[03:08] <sethk> CokeNCode, linux doesn't care, so you can make the hda1 disk hda2, the disk from the old box hda1, and boot windows, xp from the other machine's disk, or xp from this machine's disk
[03:08] <ugah> StyXman, i mean output
[03:08] <nu> ugah: oh. lol. oops
[03:08] <sethk> CokeNCode, sorry
[03:08] <deniz_ogut> Hello Friends, I am using Ubuntu 6.06. While I try to connect jabber and make changes (add etc) it says  "source conflict" (re-translater from turkish). When I restart the machine and try to login, I can do but if stop gaim and restart it or if try to make changes, I get it. What is it? What can I do?
[03:08] <ferrouswheel> Geoffrey2: you like sid? check out www.hvsc.c64.org/ :)
[03:08] <sethk> CokeNCode, I meant xp from the old machine's disk, ubuntu from the old machine's disk, or ubuntu from this machine's disk
[03:09] <nu> Is there a way to minize the wallpaper's brightness? (without turning the monitor's brightness down of course)
[03:09] <nocarrier> sethk: umm... just out of curiosity, how do you change the partition number "on the fly"?
[03:09] <ugah> StyXman, the 'whats ne in gnome 2.14' article that got so much atention had a nice graph comparing xterm with gnome-terminal in that respect
[03:09] <CokeNCode> sethk, ok
[03:09] <maxx01> hey guys.. i just finished reading the article on local dns caches... and i really like the idea. one question tho... is it true that dnsmasq does not provide permanent caching?
[03:09] <StyXman> ugah: url?
[03:09] <imago> i am tring to access my windows 3.1 hard drive  how do i do that
[03:09] <sethk> nocarrier, you can't.  hda is master, hdb is slave, and 1, 2, 3, and 4 are the four partitions.
[03:09] <ugah> StyXman, *shrug*
[03:09] <StyXman> ugah: k, np
[03:10] <maxx01> imago, wow windows 3.1 that's insane
[03:10] <sethk> nocarrier, so if the driver is primary master it is hda#, and if it is primary slave it is hdb#, and secondary master hdc#, secondary slave hdd#
[03:10] <imago> i know
[03:10] <nocarrier> sethk: I know.... what is why I was asking what you meant by:  "linux doesn't care, so you can make the hda1 disk hda2, the disk from the old box"
[03:10] <slackbr> the smtp poret is open on my box, why ?? how i close that ??
[03:10] <imago> i use it to confuse hackers
[03:10] <ugah> StyXman, i guess it got burried by now since it described 2.14 in a pre release state
[03:10] <Geoffrey2> ferrouswheel, it would be fun to listen to...to realize what impressed us way back then compared to what we have today
[03:10] <maxx01> lol
[03:10] <slackbr> the smtp port (25) is open on my box, why ?? how i close that ??
[03:11] <imago> itworks
[03:11] <ugah> StyXman, after the release, so many other articles surfaced that i cant find that one any more
[03:11] <sethk> nocarrier, I meant that he can connect up the drive that is currently primary master as primary slave, and he'll still be able to boot the ubuntu partition, although now it will be hdb instead of hda.  you would have to modify /etc/fstab to compensate, and possibly /boot/grub/menu.lst.
[03:11] <maxx01> i imagine it would
[03:11] <nocarrier> slackbr: disable sendmail
[03:11] <ugah> StyXman, but im sure youve seen it, it was imensly popular
[03:11] <Jenkens> hrm
[03:11] <sethk> nocarrier, the idea being to get around the fact that xp often refuses to boot unless it is the first partition on primary master
[03:11] <Jenkens> cant quit out of xfce easily either
[03:11] <Geoffrey2> ferrouswheel, I still remember the day someone figured out how to play "stereo" sound files on the C64
[03:11] <goonies> i have a slight dilemna, how do i switch what driver my wireless network adapter is using, i have installed a newer version of the same driver in a different folder, they both have the same filename, how do i make it use the newer driver?
[03:11] <slackbr> nocarrier, how ?
[03:11] <imago> i have used every windows except ME  so i am trying to learn linux
[03:11] <Jenkens> gotta kill it, shutdown doesn't do much
[03:12] <nocarrier> sethk: Don't need to explain ;)  been doin this for quite a while ;)....i just didn't understand what you meant
[03:12] <sethk> nocarrier, ok, even if you already know, probably there are other people listening who don't.
[03:12] <ferrouswheel> Geoffrey2: hah, I was still a kid back then - and was more a BBC user than c64. still appreciate the nostalgia of sids though :)
[03:12] <CokeNCode> ok, i already have Ubuntu installed on this pc, and nowhere online is telling me how to edit grub's config file to dual boot from another disk that already has xp installed
[03:13] <CokeNCode> they all only show how to do a fresh install ... xp first ...and then linux
[03:13] <maxx01> CokeNCode, the file is /boot/grub/menu.list
[03:13] <maxx01> sorry make that
[03:13] <goonies> anyone?
[03:13] <ymmotrojam> nocarrier: I think I got it working, thanks muchly for the tip!!!
[03:13] <maxx01> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:13] <nocarrier> ymmotrojam: np ;)
[03:13] <Jenkens> anyone know why when i load xfce through apt-get i dont get any of the stock menus ubuntu usally sets up?
[03:14] <Jenkens> am i missing a package
[03:14] <imago> maxx01 can u help me
[03:14] <slackbr> nocarrier, how i disable send mail ?
[03:14] <maxx01> imago, about the windows 3.1 drive? what filesystem is on it?
[03:14] <imago> fat 16
[03:15] <deniz_ogut> Maybe, first of all is anybody using xchat here? Or do you advice me to install something else?
[03:15] <maxx01> hmmm
[03:15] <holycow> nocarrier, lol, the 3ware 8006-2lp is sata ... *cough*
[03:15] <holycow> :)
[03:15] <maxx01> so what happens when you try to mount it?
[03:15] <nocarrier> holycow: hehe.... didn't pay attention to that part
[03:15] <imago> one sec let me see the error agian
[03:16] <holycow> nocarrier, no biggie :) thanks again for your help, just buggin ya
[03:16] <nocarrier> heh
[03:16] <orbin> Jenkens: how'd you install xfce?
[03:16] <imago> drive inaccessable
[03:16] <Squad_> hey guys I am having trouble with packet flooding on a site I own, is there any way to drop packets from a certain IP if the packets keep getting sent real fast... ?
[03:16] <Jenkens> orbin; apt-get -u install xfce4
[03:16] <Ronz> Squad_, i would just nuke them back
[03:16] <Ronz> =)
[03:16] <orbin> Jenkens: grabbing xubuntu-desktop is the recommended method iirc
[03:17] <Jenkens> hrm
[03:17] <imago> squad it depends how it is hosting
[03:17] <Jenkens> ok
[03:17] <Jenkens> lemme check that
[03:17] <sethk> Squad_, yes, but that won't stop them from using your bandwidth, it will only stop them from consuming resources on the box once it arrives.
[03:17] <Squad_> good idea, but it's hard to find out who's doing it (i have a lot of connections) I am using DigiChat, by the way :P (java chat)
[03:17] <CokeNCode> Squad_, depends on the web interface ur webhost provides. You should have the option to block certain ip's tho
[03:17] <slackbr> the smtp port (25) is open on my box, why ?? how i close that ??
[03:17] <sethk> Squad_, if you can block it upstream, that's better.  block as far upstream as possible.
[03:17] <Jenkens> orbin: that's 343 packages man!
[03:17] <Jenkens> holy crap
[03:17] <CokeNCode> slackbr, you're running a mail server apparently
[03:17] <Jenkens> alright we'll see how it goes
[03:18] <sethk> slackbr, is something listening on 25?   if so, kill it.  there is no need to block the port.
[03:18] <CokeNCode> slackbr, kill the smptd process
[03:18] <slackbr> ok but what i do for the process don't start again
[03:18] <slackbr> is the default instalation
[03:18] <slackbr> the version is the on of free cds
[03:18] <CokeNCode> slackbr, did you install lamp or something like that ?
[03:18] <deniz_ogut> Dear friends. There are 784 users in the room at the moment. It is impossible to answer them at once. And in xchat I car't see a way to make personel communication. Al I wrong or do you advice me to replace the default irc client with something else?
[03:18] <Jenkens> orbin: man that's gonna grab all sorts of ish i could care less about
[03:18] <phasegen> anyone get azureus up and running?  I can't get it to connect to anything.
[03:19] <nocarrier> slackbr: it's just smtp... not a HUGE security flaw, exactly
[03:19] <slackbr> CokeNCode, i install nmap and gparted
[03:19] <spiderworm> !vmware
[03:19] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[03:19] <imago> squad_ if they still continue to do it then contact the isp
[03:19] <Jenkens> gimp, openoffice.. etc
[03:19] <CokeNCode> slackbr, it doesn't come installed by default with ubuntu ... unless the server edition is different ?
[03:19] <slackbr> nocarrier, but i want close it
[03:19] <orbin> deniz_ogut: /msg <nick> <message> will open up a private window
[03:19] <Squad_> imago I would do that but I don't even know the people doing it, I host a pretty big dc server and its sorta hard to find out.....
[03:19] <deniz_ogut> thaks and intereksting.
[03:19] <nocarrier> so google ubuntu init scripts
[03:19] <slackbr> CokeNCode,  my version is 5.0.4
[03:19] <Geoffrey2> is there any particular preferred media player..or is pretty much just personal preference
[03:19] <coolzone> Hi, would someone mind running a whereis bzip2 and gzip, and tell me where those files are located? I am doing some cross OS development, and need to make it work for Ubuntu.
[03:19] <appe> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:20] <appe> ??
[03:20] <appe> i cant sudo!
[03:20] <appe> :O
[03:20] <Squad_> Hmm
[03:20] <nu> LOL
[03:20] <imago> when u get the ip addresses  take them and go to dnsstuff.com
[03:20] <appe> how did i mess it up like this? :D
[03:20] <CokeNCode> slackbr, well, for now ... just down 'ps -aux' search for smptd ... and kill it
[03:20] <nu> appe: what do you get when you try to sudo?
[03:20] <appe> ooh
[03:20] <appe> it wasnt sudo
[03:20] <Squad_> Do you know how I could like.. drop certain packets? Any firewalls that will let me do this
[03:20] <appe> it was apt-get
[03:20] <nocarrier> hehe
[03:20] <appe> that was busy with updateing
[03:20] <appe> :D
[03:20] <Geoffrey2> appe, make sure the Symantic Package Manager isn't open
[03:20] <nocarrier> Squad_: netfilter (iptables)
[03:21] <orbin> Jenkens: i see ... xfce4 has worked for me in the past. i don't know why it's playing up tbh.  have you searched the forum?
[03:21] <Squad_> thanks, I'll look into that :)
[03:21] <nu> appe: yea. the ubuntu servers have been a bit slow lately
[03:21] <slackbr> nocarrier, i don't want be arrogant, but if ppl say "Google for that" in all ask, the channel will be point less :D
[03:21] <nocarrier> slackbr: good point, but for something like that, it is easier to look it up, then explain how to do it
[03:22] <CokeNCode> slackbr, yeh ... he's right ... there's pages of documentation on that online
[03:22] <nocarrier> not exactly a one line operation
[03:22] <coolzone> Hi, would someone mind running a whereis bzip2 and gzip, and tell me where those files are located? I am doing some cross OS development, and need to make it work for OpenBSD.
[03:22] <Jenkens> orbin: not yet.. i dunno
[03:22] <sethk> slackbr, sometimes someone may feel that the available docs explain it more clearly than is possible here.
[03:22] <nocarrier> bzip2: /bin/bzip2 /usr/bin/bzip2 /usr/bin/X11/bzip2 /usr/share/man/man1/bzip2.1.gz
[03:22] <sethk> coolzone, in /usr/bin
[03:23] <nocarrier> gzip: /bin/gzip /usr/share/man/man1/gzip.1.gz
[03:23] <sethk> coolzone, /usr/bin for bzip2, /bin for gzip, in the standard ubuntu installation
[03:23] <nocarrier> sethk: bzip2 = /bin
[03:23] <nu_> anyone know the command/path to the trashcan?
[03:23] <Jenkens> orbin: the 'xfce4' package should just be metadata as to what's required to make xfce4 function right. i guess that's not the case.
[03:23] <sethk> nocarrier, not on my ubuntu boxes.
[03:23] <coolzone> sethk, thank you very much! :-)
[03:24] <Geoffrey2> I had totem-zine installed, but thought it wasn't working right, so I switched to mplayer....then someone pointed out it was actually a video driver problem...now I just need to decide whether I want to stick with mplayer, or go back to totem
[03:24] <nocarrier> sethk: yours is messed up then ;)
[03:24] <sethk> nocarrier, checked two 5.1 boxes, both have bzip2 in /usr/bin
[03:24] <nocarrier> ok, not on 6.06
[03:24] <sethk> nocarrier, more logical that they are in the same directory, so I can see why they would have moved one
[03:25] <nocarrier> anyone do GTK development?
[03:25] <sethk> nocarrier, I do some
[03:25] <orbin> Jenkens: yes, it should grab the essentials and give you a working DE ...
[03:26] <stillflame> is there a channel for ubuntu developers?
[03:26] <Jenkens> orbin: well it worked, but the xfce4-panel wasn't populated.. etc.
[03:26] <sethk> stillflame, there are channels for various types of development software.  development on one linux package is the same as development on any other, except gentoo which isn't exactly linux.
[03:26] <sethk> stillflame, s/package/distro/
[03:27] <stillflame> sethk: i'm working on fixing oem-config stuff, which is ubuntu specific
[03:27] <sethk> stillflame, ok, that makes sense.
[03:27] <MilkH-Pimm> Does anyone know how I can make sure my WMV (or ASF) movies' sound and video are synchrone?
[03:27] <ubu2006> hi everyone
[03:27] <ubu2006> sethk: hi again!  thanks for the help the other day
[03:27] <MilkH-Pimm> Using Xine
[03:27] <sethk> stillflame, I believe there is a channel for people developing software that is actually part of ubuntu.  do a channel search for ubuntu
[03:28] <orbin> Jenkens: as in "applets"? is the menu working?
[03:28] <sethk> ubu2006, np.  I don't remember what I helped with, but it sounds like I got lucky.  :)
[03:28] <Tauhshi> Can I use my existing partitions to install Kubuntu?
[03:28] <ubu2006> sethk: I wanted to use some poker.exe program, can I use it on Dapper at all?
[03:28] <stillflame> sethk: ah, right.  thanks.
[03:28] <Tauhshi> I have Ubuntu, but want KDE
[03:28] <nocarrier> ubu2006: wine
[03:28] <ubu2006> Tauhshi: stick with gnome
[03:28] <sethk> ubu2006, with wine, you can probably run it.
[03:28] <Jenkens> orbin: i can add things, yes
[03:28] <ubu2006> nocarrier: does wine really work and does it break Dapper?
[03:28] <Jenkens> but the applets are not populated
[03:28] <Jenkens> meh
[03:28] <Jenkens> i du nno
[03:28] <sethk> Tauhshi, I run kde on two of my ubuntu boxes.  you can install it from synaptic
[03:28] <Jenkens> i'm so sick of linux
[03:28] <orbin> Jenkens: is xfce4-goodies installed?
[03:29] <Jenkens> yeppers
[03:29] <nocarrier> ubu2006: no, it doesn't break it.... and wine works very well
[03:29] <sethk> Jenkens, use something else, then.
[03:29] <ubu2006> sethk: is wine safe?  or does it introduce MS windows spyware, trojans etc?
[03:29] <Tauhshi> But, its haivng trouble harmonizing with GNOME
[03:29] <Jenkens> sethk: i just may
[03:29] <Canute> quick question, is it possible to install stuff when i'm just using the live cd (so i can test out WPA).
[03:29] <ubu2006> nocarrier: sudo apt-get install wine ?
[03:29] <nocarrier> ubu2006: yep
[03:29] <sethk> ubu2006, it is mostly safe.  don't run ie or outlook  :)
[03:29] <ubu2006> nocarrier: thanks
[03:29] <ubu2006> sethk: hehe ok ;)
[03:29] <nocarrier> sethk: as a NPU, you really can't harm anything anyway
[03:30] <Tauhshi> Is it possible to uninstall GNOME?
[03:30] <sethk> nocarrier, probably true, but I haven't personally tested it.  Since there is no good reason to run it, even a tiny risk is an unnecessary risk.
[03:31] <ubu2006> Tauhshi: why? :P
[03:31] <Tauhshi> Because I'd rather KDE
[03:31] <sethk> Tauhshi, you could, but all you would accomplish is to free up a bit of disk space
[03:31] <sethk> Tauhshi, not necessary to uninstall gnome.  just install kde.
[03:31] <Squad_> Ok could I do something like this to block a packet... iptables -A FORWARD -m string --string '05 94 21' -j DROP
[03:31] <nocarrier> sethk: no, but outlook could be useful for people who use exchange
[03:31] <sethk> Tauhshi, that way you can choose either gnome or kde at the login prompt.
[03:31] <nullifx> is there a way i can edit a program from the applications menu to run a command first before launching the program?
[03:31] <spiderworm> hey all, i have vmplayer installed, how do i point it to my windows partition?
[03:31] <sethk> nocarrier, true.
[03:31] <nocarrier> Squad_: you want to scan packets for particular strings?
[03:32] <Tauhshi> Sethk: But, GNOME is interfering with KDE
[03:32] <Squad_> Yeah
[03:32] <nocarrier> Tauhshi: install Kubuntu
[03:32] <Tauhshi> Nocarrier: No more blank discs
[03:32] <sethk> Tauhshi, why do you believe that?  I have two boxes here where I can choose either kde or gnome, and both run fine in both desktops
[03:32] <sethk> Tauhshi, what are you seeing that makes you thing gnome is interfering with something?
[03:32] <nocarrier> Tauhshi: ah... no other computers?
[03:32] <orbin> nullifx: never tried it, but what about using && ?
[03:33] <Tauhshi> Nocarier: No
[03:33] <sethk> nullifx, you can simply do this:     some command ..... ; original command
[03:33] <nocarrier> Tauhshi: like sethk said, why do you think Gnome is messing with KDE?
[03:33] <sethk> nullifx, if you use && or ||, the second part will not always be run
[03:33] <Tauhshi> Sethk: GDM Keeps wanting to manage my login, Firefox can't display correctly, but displays fine in GNOME
[03:34] <nocarrier> Tauhshi: change it to kdm ;)
[03:34] <sethk> nullifx, probably a better idea is to great a script file, name the script file with the program name, then have the script run the program with it's full path.
[03:34] <ulimii> Hi, is it possible to send a command to an application that is screened?
[03:34] <BrigadierFrog> uhh... where is xorgcfg in ubuntu
[03:34] <slavik> you people are so lucky ...
[03:34] <BrigadierFrog> or is there some package I need to install
[03:34] <sethk> Tauhshi, if you don't want gdm, remove it from /etc/inittab
[03:34] <BrigadierFrog> and if so, why isn't it there by default
[03:34] <ulimii> BrigadierFrog: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:34] <slavik> BrigadierFrog: where it should be, in /etc/X11/
[03:34] <nocarrier> BrigadierFrog: if X is installed, it is in the normal place, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:34] <sethk> Tauhshi, I'm using firefox on both of my boxes that have both kde and gnome, and I haven't seen a problem.
[03:34] <BrigadierFrog> I'm not talking about the xorg config file
[03:35] <BrigadierFrog> I'm talking about the utility
[03:35] <sethk> Tauhshi, I'm using the most recent firefox, though, not one from the repositories
[03:35] <slavik> what utility?
[03:35] <BrigadierFrog> xorgcfg
[03:35] <nocarrier> XF86Config
[03:35] <nocarrier> or that...
[03:35] <slavik> BrigadierFrog: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:35] <Tauhshi> Sethk: Might be the reaosn
[03:35] <nocarrier> nowadays...
[03:35] <sethk> BrigadierFrog, because dpkg-reconfigure xserver-sorg   is much easier to use
[03:35] <BrigadierFrog> slavik: you gotta be kidding me man, there's no xorgcfg !? isn't that part of xorg ????
[03:35] <sethk> BrigadierFrog, you can, of course, install the other config
[03:35] <BrigadierFrog> and how would I install that utility then
[03:35] <slavik> BrigadierFrog: xorgcfg is not part of the package maintainer
[03:36] <nu> =)
[03:36] <syndicate47> does anyone know how to increase your swap space?
[03:36] <slavik> BrigadierFrog: dpkg is always there :)
[03:36] <BrigadierFrog> so if I go install xorg from source... it won't give me a xorgcfg binary...
[03:36] <nocarrier> syndicate47: you could try gparted
[03:36] <sethk> syndicate47, temporarily, you can use a file in a partition with empty space to increase swap
[03:36] <slavik> BrigadierFrog: what for? and why install xorg from source?
[03:36] <ulimii> Hi, is it possible to send a command to an application that is screened?
[03:36] <sethk> syndicate47, permanently you have to increase swap partition size, or add additional swap partition(s)
[03:36] <slavik> sethk: have you used edgy yet?
[03:36] <BrigadierFrog> slavik: why not have the nice utility to generate a xorg.conf file?
[03:36] <sethk> syndicate47, if you only need the extra swap space occasionally the swap in normal file system configuration is good enough.
[03:37] <Tauhshi> Firefox looks like its runing on a GNOME emulation layer, the menus look GNOME
[03:37] <Qwell> BrigadierFrog: X -configure
[03:37] <sethk> slavik, no, not yet
[03:37] <slavik> BrigadierFrog: because dpkg-reconfigure is nice as well?
[03:37] <nocarrier> BrigadierFrog: because we write them by hand ;)
[03:37] <slavik> sethk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19844 ... maybe you could help
[03:37] <BrigadierFrog> Qwell: thats not the same
[03:37] <sethk> Tauhshi, download firefox from mozilla.org, see if it behaves differently.
[03:37] <sethk> slavik, I'll look
[03:37] <slavik> ty
[03:37] <nu> Anyone know the command/path to the trash can?
[03:37] <Ronz> cd ~/.trash
[03:37] <bruenig> ~/.Trash
[03:37] <Ronz> i think
[03:37] <Ronz> yea
[03:37] <nu> Ronz: thanks man
[03:37] <nu> ill try
[03:38] <BrigadierFrog> slavik: yet, when I use every other operating system using xorg, I have an xorgcfg...
[03:38] <nullifx> sethk: i'm kinda new to this...what i want to do is run the command "export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1" before running "tsclient"...what would the script look like and how would i make it?
[03:38] <tanath> is the seveas repository (or any of its mirrors) working for anyone?
[03:38] <bruenig> nu, it is capitalized, the terminal is case sensative
[03:38] <tanath> i always get this: E: Unable to parse package file /var/lib/apt/lists/mirror.ubuntulinux.nl_dists_dapper-seveas_Release (1)
[03:38] <bruenig> or *nix in general is but that includes the terminal
[03:38] <sethk> slavik, I think if you do an init 1 and run the apt-get from console, at least some of these problems will disappear.
[03:38] <jimcooncat> I upgraded a small sarge install to dapper, is there a package for all the tools that would come with a server install, like ubuntu-desktop does for a full gnome environment?
[03:39] <nocarrier> nullifx: ^M = newline..... #!/bin/bash ^M    export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 ^M    tsclient
[03:39] <appe> uh
[03:39] <appe> oh
[03:39] <orbin> BrigadierFrog: it's not the end of the world ;)
[03:39] <appe> yeah
[03:39] <slavik> sethk: any ideas?
[03:40] <sethk> slavik, I think you were gone.  Did you run the apt-get at init level 1 from a console?
[03:40] <Geoffrey2> sethk, you running the alpha release of Firefox 2?
[03:40] <BrigadierFrog> orbin: its not, its just highly annoying when trying to help a friend out who's using kubuntu
[03:40] <slavik> sethk: uhh, I do not think so
[03:40] <sethk> BrigadierFrog, so do the install for it.  takes only a few seconds.
[03:40] <sethk> slavik, try that.  It looks like it is failing because files it wants to write are in use.
[03:40] <appe> how do install deb files?
[03:40] <tinkerer> there's a website with several webpages that gives a different message based on the geographical location that it thinks you are in. How can I see the the different pages?
[03:41] <tanath> anyone?
[03:41] <nocarrier> appe: dpkg -i <file>
[03:41] <tinkerer> For example, http://www.bethinking.org/resource.php?ID=286. Please advise
[03:41] <bruenig> appe, do sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb
[03:41] <sethk> slavik, I'm not sure whether that's the only problem, or even if it is the main problem, but try running it that way and see what happens.
[03:41] <alan53> Hi folks.  Other than the obvious place (think I'm there already) can someone point me to good laptop resources?  I believe I have loaded Ubuntu on a new dell inspiron dual core centrino processors but I'm stuck with x server disabled and at a prompt.  Sudo does stuff, but I'm not sure what.
[03:41] <slavik> I am in runlevel2 right now ... how do I get to runlevel1?
[03:41] <slavik> do I need to edit inittab?
[03:41] <bruenig> appe, dapper has gdebi and should be able to install it graphically on a double click
[03:41] <nocarrier> slavik: append init 1 to the end of your kernel boot string on bootup
[03:41] <slavik> k, ty
[03:41] <sethk> tinkerer, if they are using a content distribution service, you probably cannot.  you could use the IP address instead of the domain name, but I don't know where you might get the IPs from.
[03:42] <slavik> going to try that right now :D
[03:42] <sorush20> what is ubuntu doing to get more harware companies to support linux?
[03:42] <appe> dpkg: fel vid hantering av amsn (--install): beroendeproblem - lmnar okonfigurerad
[03:42] <appe> didnt work
[03:42] <tanath> is the seveas repository (or any of its mirrors) working for anyone?
[03:42] <slavik> also, why would my monitor display a thing of not being able to display the video mode when I switch to any tty?
[03:42] <appe> its amsn_0.96RC1-1.deb
[03:42] <tanath> i always get this: E: Unable to parse package file /var/lib/apt/lists/mirror.ubuntulinux.nl_dists_dapper-seveas_Release (1)
[03:42] <orbin> alan53: sudo is doing what?
[03:42] <Sayhack> hello
[03:42] <tinkerer> sethk: how can we check how the website is doing it?
[03:42] <tinkerer> sethk: to check whethec they are using "content disttirubution service"
[03:42] <sethk> slavik, what's the exact message?
[03:42] <Sayhack> i need mp3 player for my linux
[03:43] <appe> what should i do?
[03:43] <nocarrier> appe: sorry... don't understand the error
[03:43] <appe> uhm
[03:43] <reconciliation> Sayhack use vlc
[03:43] <bruenig> appe, can you translate that, maybe it is a permission error, if you didn't do "sudo" before the dpkg -i, make sure you do
[03:43] <Sayhack> vlc
[03:43] <Sayhack> download?
[03:43] <appe> appe@rocketmedia:~/Desktop/Annat$ sudo dpkg -i amsn_0.96RC1-1.deb
[03:43] <tanath> Sayhack: xmms or beep-media-player work fine
[03:43] <sethk> tinkerer, you can use netstat to find the IP of the web page connection, then host or dig to translate the ip to a name.  if it is the name of one of the content distribution services, then you'll know.
[03:43] <reconciliation> video lan client
[03:43] <bruenig> Sayhack, rythymbox will play it, you just need w32codecs
[03:43] <bruenig> wow
[03:43] <Sayhack> mmmm
[03:44] <Tauhshi> I think I'm just going to install Kubuntu AMD64 . . .
[03:44] <alan53> orbin, sudo last said, "could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[03:44] <sethk> tinkerer, I'm blanking on the name of the most common content distribution service, but I'll remember it eventually.
[03:44] <nocarrier> Tauhshi: told ya ;)
[03:44] <orbin> reconciliation: more of a video player don't you think?
[03:44] <Sayhack> but winamp for linux if good?
[03:44] <bruenig> Rhythmbox*
[03:44] <Geoffrey2> why not just install the mp3 plugin for gstreamer?
[03:44] <sethk> alan53, some other update program may be running, such as synaptic
[03:44] <Sayhack> alguein que hable espaol
[03:45] <tanath> Sayhack: xmms & beep-media-player are most like winamp
[03:45] <sethk> !es
[03:45] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:45] <bruenig> !sp
[03:45] <ubotu> I know nothing about sp - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:45] <bruenig> !es
[03:45] <sethk> bruenig, espanol, not spanish  :)
[03:45] <orbin> sethk: <alan53> I'm stuck with x server disabled and at a prompt.  Sudo does stuff, but I'm not sure what.
[03:45] <Sayhack> tanat beep-media player
[03:45] <goonies> can someone help me out, how do i get ubuntu to use a new driver with the same name as the old one but in a different directory?
[03:45] <bruenig> lol
[03:45] <reconciliation> orbin, I see what your saying in that it lacks those organization fetures that other players have
[03:45] <bruenig> !es
[03:45] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:45] <orbin> alan53: sudo doesn't say stuff by itself afaik, what command did you type?
[03:45] <ubu2006> whats the sexist, funkiest mp3 player for Dapper?
[03:46] <tanath> reconciliation: and stuff for editing tags
[03:46] <orbin> reconciliation: *nod*  just a thought :)
[03:46] <appe> appe@rocketmedia:~/Desktop/Annat$ amsn
[03:46] <appe> Application initialization failed: no display name and no $DISPLAY environment variable
[03:46] <appe> ??
[03:46] <orbin> ubu2006: i like listen ... not perfect but it's nice
[03:46] <tanath> ubu2006: xmms & beep-media-player are skinnable...
[03:46] <UbuntuJulez> anyone know of a good website or channel that explains how to install Quake II (old-school Quake) on Linux?
[03:46] <bruenig> appe, did it install?
[03:46] <alan53> apt-get update
[03:46] <Sayhack> Where download that program?
[03:46] <appe> bruenig: i dont think so
[03:46] <orbin> ubu2006: oh, sexiest....yeah, maybe not
[03:46] <tanath> Sayhack: use synaptic
[03:46] <bruenig> appe, well you need to do that first
[03:46] <nocarrier> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Quake-HOWTO.html
[03:47] <appe> bruenig: that doesnt work. :(
[03:47] <tinkerer> sethk: if it isn't using "content distribution service", it's easier to find the other pages?
[03:47] <jimcooncat> I upgraded a small sarge install to dapper, is there a package for all the tools that would come with a server install: ubuntu-minimal?
[03:47] <Sayhack> where download synaptic?
[03:47] <ubu2006> orbin: ok
[03:47] <ubu2006> tanath: oki
[03:47] <bruenig> appe, if you are trying to install amsn, why not use synaptic
[03:47] <tanath> Sayhack: System > Administration > Synaptic
[03:47] <bruenig> !info amsn
[03:47] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.95-1 (dapper), package size 2233 kB, installed size 7852 kB
[03:47] <Geoffrey2> has anyone tried the psx emulator in the repositories?
[03:47] <ubu2006> Sayhack: no need
[03:47] <appe> bruenig: what is synaptic?
[03:47] <ubu2006> Sayhack: its there already
[03:47] <bruenig> appe, just do "sudo apt-get install amsn"
[03:47] <orbin> UbuntuJulez: isn't it a native installer?  should have docs i would think.
[03:47] <nocarrier> tinkerer: do all the sites end eith a t=number?
[03:47] <ubu2006> Sayhack: system/admin
[03:47] <Sayhack> ok thanks men
[03:47] <jared> I have an external hd and i can do anything with it. Its read only, how can i change that?
[03:47] <appe> bruenig: i did, and i got what i pasted.
[03:48] <nocarrier> tinkerer: *with a number?
[03:48] <tinkerer> nocarrier: i think so
[03:48] <Jenkens> what repo can i use for libdvdcss?
[03:48] <ubu2006> Sayhack: new to linux?
[03:48] <UbuntuJulez> orbin, i dont own a copy yet
[03:48] <jme> is there a way to make my system stop fscking on every 30th startup?
[03:48] <Sayhack> yesssssssss
[03:48] <Jack_Sparrow> jared  is it ntfs?
[03:48] <UbuntuJulez> and i can't buy ti anymore either
[03:48] <ubu2006> jared: mount it as write
[03:48] <tinkerer> tinkerer: but the number doesn't change
[03:48] <nocarrier> tinkerer: you could write a bash script that iterates through numbers, and use wget to grab the pages
[03:48] <UbuntuJulez> i've heard that its open source now..and installable/playable on linux
[03:48] <jared> well
[03:48] <cjones> can you switch from 1 distro of ubunto to a diff one with out loseing you data?
[03:48] <nocarrier> ah...
[03:48] <reconciliation> I am hearing about a cool theme engine called Murrine. Its supposed to be way to pretty and way to fast. Anybody know where I get it?
[03:48] <bruenig> appe, you probably don't have the extra repository enabled
[03:48] <sethk> tinkerer, If it does an HTTP redirect, you can see that by sniffing packets when you point your browser at a page.  Possibly there will be a geographic location in the redirect that is obvious, so you could try different values in it.  e.g., if it had the word south in it, you could try north, east, and west.  There isn't any systematic way to investigate it, though.
[03:48] <jared> actually i believe it IS ntfs Jack_Sparrow
[03:48] <ubu2006> Sayhack: dont give up! u will grow to love it if you persist
[03:48] <alan53> orbin, apt-get update
[03:48] <appe> bruenig: bruenig whats that, and how do i get it
[03:48] <orbin> UbuntuJulez: then you can't play it :)  you need the data files off the cd IIRC
[03:48] <appe> :p
[03:48] <Jack_Sparrow> !ntfs > jared
[03:48] <nocarrier> what is an example page?
[03:49] <bruenig> !repositories
[03:49] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:49] <cjones> can you switch from 1 distro of ubunto to a diff one with out loseing you data?
[03:49] <sethk> cjones, if it is an upgrade, you will not lose data
[03:49] <Jack_Sparrow> NOt advised to write to ntfs partitions
[03:49] <tinkerer> nocarrier: i could use wget, but that will give me what i could already get in a browser.
[03:49] <cjones> oops sory
[03:49] <UbuntuJulez> orbin, i'll take care of it...
[03:49] <nocarrier> tinkerer: give me an example page
[03:49] <bruenig> appe, if you go into system>administration>software properties
[03:49] <UbuntuJulez> just wanted to know if anyone knew about it..b/c on screenshots..i see people playing "X-quake" and i cna't find that online
[03:49] <tinkerer> nocarrier: try http://www.bethinking.org/resource.php?ID=286
[03:49] <UbuntuJulez> at least, some documentation showing how they installed..etc
[03:49] <tinkerer> sethk: how do we sniff packets?
[03:49] <nocarrier> UbuntuJulez: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Quake-HOWTO.html
[03:49] <ubu2006> Sayhack: you here?
[03:49] <tanath> is the seveas repository (or any of its mirrors) working for anyone?
[03:50] <Sayhack> yess
[03:50] <tanath> i always get this: E: Unable to parse package file /var/lib/apt/lists/mirror.ubuntulinux.nl_dists_dapper-seveas_Release (1)
[03:50] <Sayhack> yess
[03:50] <bruenig> appe, basically check all of those if you want to enable all of the extra repos
[03:50] <Jenkens> anyone?
[03:50] <ubu2006> Sayhack: try this: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html
[03:50] <UbuntuJulez> thanks nocarrier, i like your chat-name, btw
[03:50] <sethk> tinkerer, I use ethereal
[03:50] <appe> bruenig: i cant find "software propertys"
[03:50] <Sayhack> already open synaprtic
[03:50] <cjones> i just want to switch to the christian edition of ubuntu
[03:51] <bruenig> appe, ok, open a terminal and do this "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[03:51] <tanath> ubu2006: your link is broken
[03:51] <UbuntuJulez> LOL @ cjones
[03:51] <ubu2006> cjones: christian ed?
[03:51] <UbuntuJulez> i have to wonder what would posess someone to create a "christian" version of an OS
[03:51] <ubu2006> tanath: what link?
[03:51] <UbuntuJulez> does that mean all its daemon's are exorcised?
[03:51] <tanath> the one you just posted
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[03:51] <appe> bruenig: i have already alterned the sources.list once, with the listgenerator on the ubuntu size
[03:51] <cjones> yeah it just came out it has some relley cool software on it
[03:51] <appe> site
[03:51] <ubu2006> tanath: does https://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/ work?
[03:51] <tanath> Sayhack: you can install virtually everything you'll need in synaptic.
[03:51] <tanath> ubu2006: yeh
[03:52] <ubu2006> cjones: where:P
[03:52] <Sayhack> as use synaptic
[03:52] <jared> i ran that script and it still wont let me write to it
[03:52] <jared> it said "Read only"
[03:52] <bruenig> appe, try this for me one more time sudo apt-get install amsn
[03:52] <tanath> Sayhack: though you may need to add repositories for some things
[03:52] <cjones> you can get the iso at www.whatwouldjesusdownload.com ...nojoke
[03:52] <orbin> !dvd > Jenkens
[03:52] <ubu2006> Sayhack: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
[03:52] <appe> bruenig: 0 uppgraderade, 0 nyinstallerade, 0 att ta bort och 2 ej uppgraderade.
[03:52] <txcspdrmn> Does Christian Ubunu come wth Evolution disabled?
[03:52] <Sayhack> what I do it?
[03:53] <tanath> txcspdrmn: lol
[03:53] <cjones> lol i dont think so
[03:53] <appe> bruenig: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[03:53] <sotired> i have problems...When i connect my wireless card to my laptop in the live cd environment, i able able to get it working with minimal fuss, however when i do an install it wont work. Whats worse is that once i put the card in ubuntu will not run ANY programs, including the netconfig and terminal. what is the deal here?
[03:53] <bruenig> appe, do sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and delete the # in front of any line that starts with deb, then save it, after you save it do "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get install amsn"
[03:53] <jared> Jack_Sparrow, still getting an error
[03:54] <ubu2006> www.whatwouldjesusdownload.com <-- really exists :)
[03:54] <Sayhack> ubu2006
[03:54] <ubu2006> cjones: I thought you were joking!
[03:54] <cjones> lol
[03:54] <bruenig> I started a threat on that christian version but it got shut down
[03:54] <Jack_Sparrow> jared: What error
[03:54] <bruenig> thrad*
[03:54] <bruenig> thread*
[03:54] <jared> i go to deleat a file
[03:54] <tinkerer> nocarrier: have you been able to check out the page?
[03:55] <bruenig> as in forum thread on ubuntuforums.org, not a threat, unfortunate typo
[03:55] <jared> and it says "Unable to move to trash, read only file system"
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> jared: to delete a file you MUST write to a drive
[03:55] <nocarrier> yes, just doing a tcpdump now
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> jared: ntfs is read only
[03:55] <jared> what do you mean i must write to a drive?
[03:55] <appe> bruenig: i got some errors, let me paste it to you in a query.
[03:55] <tanath> is the seveas repository (or any of its mirrors) working for anyone?
[03:55] <tanath> i always get this: E: Unable to parse package file /var/lib/apt/lists/mirror.ubuntulinux.nl_dists_dapper-seveas_Release (1)
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> deleting a files means you must write to the file allocation table that the file no longer exists..
[03:56] <orbin> bruenig: yeah, was gonna say, if you made a threat, no wonder it was shut down.
[03:56] <jared> oh
[03:56] <Jack_Sparrow> jared: you dont have write access so you can not delete a file
[03:56] <jared> i'll just wait tillt eh ubuntu upgrade is finished and  get gparted
[03:56] <jared> and reformat
[03:56] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[03:57] <ubu2006> cjones: thanks!  im a Christian and that website looks interesting
[03:57] <Jack_Sparrow> use fat32 to share files with WIndows
[03:57] <ubu2006> Sayhack: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/   <-- like it?
[03:57] <cjones> no prob you should see the hat they have
[03:58] <bruenig> ubu2006, it is a very worthy fork from ubuntu, the difference between it and ubuntu is some bible sword program and some new artwork with crosses,
[03:58] <Sayhack> yes.
[03:58] <ubu2006> bruenig: ok thanks
[03:58] <cjones> ubu2006  the christian edition of ubuntu has gnomesword installed by default
[03:58] <tanath> ubu2006: oops, /starterguide doesn't work either
[03:58] <ubu2006> Sayhack: im glad :)
[03:58] <bruenig> ubu2006, oh and whatever they cut out of ubuntu to make it still fit the 700MB .iso
[03:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Bible version... gimme a break
[03:58] <phargle> oh i was calling it the gh3y edition
[03:58] <ubu2006> cjones: ok
[03:59] <ubu2006> cjones: what else is different?
[03:59] <ubu2006> tanath: ok thanks
[03:59] <Sayhack> :-)
[03:59] <ubu2006> tanath: i pointed him to this instead > http://www.linuxfromscratch.org
[03:59] <sotired> i have problems...When i connect my wireless card to my laptop in the live cd environment, i able able to get it working with minimal fuss, however when i do an install it wont work. Whats worse is that once i put the card in ubuntu will not run ANY programs, including the netconfig and terminal. what is the deal here?
[03:59] <ubu2006> phargle: behave :)
[03:59] <aujordanh> remember that the meaning of free is anybody can do what they choose with it
[03:59] <bruenig> such a joke, I am goig to start Ubuntu Widget Edition, and modify the .iso to have gdesklets already installed, and then get some mirrors and distribute
[03:59] <cjones> i am not sure besides the splash screens and stuff i havent installed it yet i dont want to loos my data lol
[04:00] <orbin> tanath: playboy mirror works for me (drivers section at least
[04:00] <ubu2006> sotired: you sound like a parrot ;)
[04:00] <Ronz> i love windows!
[04:00] <Jack_Sparrow> !offtopic
[04:00] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:00] <sotired> ubu2006: sorry...ive been trying to get this solved for days
[04:00] <ubu2006> bruenig: be nice now :)
[04:00] <tanath> orbin: thx
[04:00] <ubu2006> Ronz: and I hate MS windows
[04:00] <Ronz> ...how do i find a program that will recover partitions that have been formatted?
[04:00] <tanath> orbin: will try again
[04:00] <ubu2006> Ronz: I wouldnt use MS windows if it was free!
[04:00] <Ronz> ubu2006, microsoft is the ass hole of life
[04:00] <Ronz> ubu2006, you couldn't pay me to use MS
[04:00] <bruenig> !language
[04:00] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:00] <xed2> Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server... Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key
[04:00] <xed2> Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key
[04:00] <jared> ronaldo, wtf?
[04:00] <bruenig> my kid just read that
[04:00] <nu> anyone know of a good side i can find icons?
[04:00] <xed2> trying to start ssh
[04:00] <xed2> canyone help me out ?
[04:00] <Qwell> nu: google
[04:00] <ubu2006> sotired: all the best! I empathise
[04:01] <tanath> orbin: E: Unable to parse package file /var/lib/apt/lists/seveas.theplayboymansion.net_seveas_dists_dapper-seveas_Release (1)
[04:01] <ubu2006> sotired: be patient, someone will come that can help
[04:01] <noiesmo> !ssh > xed2
[04:01] <fdelacruz> morning guys
[04:01] <Ronz> sorry bout that bruenig
[04:01] <bruenig> I don't know why he reads ubuntu support IRC but he loves it, so don't say that word
[04:01] <bruenig> lol
[04:01] <ubu2006> sotired: wait for gnomefreak
[04:01] <nu> bruenig: got it man. thanks
[04:01] <aujordanh> nu, gnomeart or gnomelook
[04:01] <xed2> thats it ?
[04:01] <xed2> ahha
[04:01] <orbin> tanath: what apt line are you putting in sources.list?
[04:01] <nu> aujordanh: thanks. btw, i installed ubuntu and delete xubuntu =(
[04:01] <Ronz> but anywho, whats a good program to recover deleted data from an already-formatted / deleted partition on a hard drive?
[04:02] <aujordanh> nu, you can always install xfce and use it when you chhose
[04:02] <tanath> deb http://seveas.theplayboymansion.net/seveas dapper-seveas all
[04:02] <tanath> and deb-src
[04:02] <ubu2006> if I install WINE, can wine open my system to virus etc?
[04:02] <aujordanh> Ronz, you might be in a jam there bud
[04:02] <nu> aujordanh: no, i dont like wasting space lol. either one of the other. ill get used to gnome
[04:02] <orbin> tanath: aptitude update worked fine for me with that line
[04:03] <Ronz> ubu2006, no. only the "drive C"
[04:03] <ubu2006> gnome is the best
[04:03] <tanath> orbin: not for me... :(
[04:03] <Ronz> ubu2006, just dont sudo
[04:03] <ubu2006> Ronz: whats the Drive C?
[04:03] <aujordanh> nu, xfce is not very large though...
[04:03] <bruenig> ubu2006, I have wondered that, but I don't think so, It seems like it would only affect the little compatibility directory it sets up
[04:03] <ubu2006> Ronz: dont run wine as sudo you mean?
[04:03] <ubu2006> bruenig: ok
[04:03] <Ronz> ubu2006, drive c is where wine is installed. it would be ~/.wine/drive_c
[04:03] <Ronz> yes
[04:03] <tanath> orbin: every time, whichever seveas mirror i use, it always says  E: Unable to parse package file
[04:03] <ubu2006> Ronz: ok ty
[04:03] <appe>  install_flash_player_7_linux.tar refuses to be unpacked, how do i do it terminal way?
[04:04] <appe> tar?
[04:04] <Ronz> aujordanh, data from hard drive can be recovered. its very difficult to completely destroy the data
[04:04] <appe> tar xcvf or something
[04:04] <nu> aujordanh: i know. but still. maybe ill do it. one of the main reasons i liked it, is that i could browser through folders, and i could right-click any folder and an option would appear: "open terminal in this location". very convenient
[04:04] <bruenig> it is only tarred, there is no gz or bz2
[04:04] <bruenig> ?
[04:04] <Qwell> about freaking time...
[04:04] <orbin> tanath: just seveas?
[04:04] <ubu2006> is there a GUI front end for wine?
[04:04] <tanath> orbin: yep
[04:04] <Qwell> 50 minutes to partition one single 74GB drive
[04:04] <aujordanh> Ronz, yes and to my knowledge there aren't programs that make that easy
[04:04] <Tixer> is anyone here good with hardware?
[04:04] <tanath> ubu2006: yes... xwine i think
[04:05] <sethk> Qwell, to create the file systems.  partitioning takes less than a second
[04:05] <bruenig> ubu2006, there really is no need for any of that, all you have to do is "wine /path/to/whatever.exe" and it generally works
[04:05] <Ronz> aujordanh, know of any that make it not easy that i can use and not have to make an image of the drive? =)
[04:05] <Qwell> sethk: the installer sat there, looking stupid the entire time :)
[04:05] <JohnnyBoyy> irc.dejatoons.net
[04:05] <Ronz> other than iLook
[04:05] <sethk> Qwell, that may be, but it wasn't partitioning, it was creating the file systems.
[04:05] <aujordanh> Ronz, no
[04:05] <Qwell> sethk: semantics
[04:05] <xed2> ok, so uh that wiki didnt help me for starting SSH at all, just for creating a key ...
[04:06] <xed2> and only the DSA key, not the RSA
[04:06] <orbin> tanath: ping him when he's active. dunno sorry
[04:06] <Tixer> can anyone help with a problematic mobo?
[04:06] <aujordanh> !ssh
[04:06] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[04:06] <bruenig> ubu2006, if you need to change certain things doing winecfg will bring up a little graphical configuration menu
[04:06] <sethk> xed2, if you install openssh-server, it is set up and started automatically
[04:06] <xed2> ok, thanks sethk a lot !
[04:06] <ubu2006> bruenig: ok!  so "wine ParyPokerSetup.exe" ?
[04:06] <tanath> orbin: the first time i asked, he asked if i was using edgy... i told him dapper, and he never said anything after that
[04:06] <bruenig> ubu2006, yep
[04:07] <ubu2006> bruenig: do I need to run winecfg after wine is installed?
[04:07] <bruenig> ubu2006, not necessarily, only if you want to change some things, I haven't changed anything on winecfg, just looked at it
[04:07] <orbin> tanath: what package are you after?
[04:08] <orbin> tanath: maybe just browse it via webbrowser, grab the deb files you need, then install w/ dpkg
[04:08] <Auckland_Pig> how do i use multiple profiles simultaneously in linux? there are a few webpages explaining how to do it in windows.... but not for linux
[04:08] <tanath> orbin: ubuntu-fglrx-686 etc
[04:08] <xed2> thanks a lot sethk, you're legend on freenode from what i hear =P
[04:08] <tanath> orbin: i did
[04:08] <ubu2006> bruenig: can I load winecfg without it doing anything?
[04:08] <Jenkens> hrmm
[04:08] <tanath> orbin: i ended up with something broken, and want the repo to work so everything can be automated
[04:08] <Jenkens> alright xine works with dvd's, but not vlc..
[04:08] <Auckland_Pig> !firefox
[04:08] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[04:08] <Tixer> can anyone help solve a mobo issue, I wanna install ubuntu
[04:08] <bruenig> ubu2006, it doesn't do anything, it would be just like pulling up a configuration menu and then looking at it and closing it so long as you don't click anything it stays the same
[04:08] <ubu2006> xed2: its true, sethk is one of the nicest and helpful ppl on ubuntu!  he is a true gentleman
[04:09] <xed2> openssh-server is already the newest version.
[04:09] <xed2> foo!
[04:09] <xed2> w00t
[04:09] <ubu2006> bruenig: cheers!
[04:09] <dibblego> is there a way I can set up an update server on the local network?
[04:09] <orbin> tanath: found this: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/50766 ... but it's slightly different from your error
[04:09] <rob> mmm.. beefy
[04:09] <dibblego> ubu2006, I think that can be said for most #ubuntu folk
[04:09] <Qwell> redcard: impossible?
[04:09] <bruenig> ubu2006, did you install wine from the normal repo or did you setup the special repo that has the latest version
[04:09] <sethk> rob, how long does it take to cook two minute noodles?  :)
[04:09] <Qwell> redcard: It's...fairly simple.  Check out winehq, and look at the suggested install method
[04:10] <xed2> sethk: openssh-server is already the newest version.
[04:10] <ubu2006> dibblego: yeah but some excel in help more than others
[04:10] <rob> about a minute to go!
[04:10] <redcard> Qwell: Not really. Impossible.  PPC :)
[04:10] <Qwell> sethk: That's an important question, for those people who live at high altitudes. ;)
[04:10] <tanath> orbin: yeh, a bit different
[04:10] <Qwell> ie; 2 minutes noodles could end up taking 3-4
[04:10] <Qwell> BUT, that's just more semantics :P
[04:10] <Tixer> anyone know how to fix a mobo?
[04:10] <ubu2006> bruenig: I just typed sudo apt-get install wine
[04:10] <ubu2006> bruenig: is that the latest?
[04:11] <Qwell> Tixer: depends what's wrong with it.  probably a blown cap?
[04:11] <sethk> xed2, You lost me now.  You were asking about creating the keys and starting the server, and I said that doing apt-get install openssh-server creates the keys and starts the server automatically.
[04:11] <sethk> xed2, so where are we now?
[04:11] <dibblego> Tixer, don't put it in the microwave with your 2 minute noodles?
[04:11] <ubu2006> bruenig: what special repo that has the latest version?
[04:11] <appe> http://youtube.com/watch?v=MfZCJWy5tsM&mode=related&search= <- best song ever, and best video too! <3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3
[04:11] <ubu2006> sethk: hello :)
[04:11] <`mutalisk> I'm trying to find a good guide for twin view on dapper 64bit...  Anyone know of a good one?
[04:11] <bruenig> !wine
[04:11] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:11] <Tixer> it wont boot unless it detects a certain fan
[04:11] <sethk> ubu2006, hey
[04:11] <ubu2006> dibblego: is the cat ok?
[04:11] <Tixer> anyone know how to get around that?
[04:11] <tanath> anyone have any probs running edgy? i'm thinking of upgrading...
[04:11] <Qwell> redcard: ahh, can't install wine on ppc?
[04:11] <bruenig> ubu2006, add this to the sources.list deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[04:12] <sethk> Tixer, that protects you from burning up your processor and mobo, so you don't want to work around it.
[04:12] <aujordanh> appe, i hope you enjoyed crashing my browse
[04:12] <redcard> Qwell: Nope.
[04:12] <appe> aujordanh: me? blame youtube.
[04:12] <redcard> Different architectures.
[04:12] <aujordanh> appe, yeah its cool
[04:12] <orbin> tanath: hopefully not just to fix that issue :-/
[04:12] <bruenig> ubu2006, after that if you did sudo apt-get update, it should theoretically say you have a wine update, but you might want to uninstall, update then apt-get install it again
[04:12] <ubu2006> bruenig: what do I do now about the wine I just installed?
[04:12] <Tixer> it wont boot unless it detects a fan about a certain RPM
[04:12] <xed2> sethk: sorry for the confusion really, but apparently i was trying to setup SSH for a friend to access my box, foo actually, well then apparently i got some weird errors, then  i came to you, did apt-get install and it said i have the latest versoin, but when i attempt to start the service i get an error with DSA and RSA keys not found
[04:12] <Tixer> I don't have one
[04:12] <Qwell> redcard: osx + rosetta + wine? :p
[04:12] <tanath> orbin: why not?
[04:12] <Tixer> I was planning to use a bigass fan
[04:12] <Qwell> or, wait, no, that's the opposite, isn't it?
[04:13] <tanath> orbin: that, and newer packages
[04:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Tixer: is that a Dell?
[04:13] <ubu2006> bruenig: will that wine break Dapper?
[04:13] <Tauhshi> what do you call Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and Xubuntu, all mixed into one?
[04:13] <Tixer> dear god, not a dell
[04:13] <nu> which one of you told me to go to gnomelook for icons?
[04:13] <sethk> xed2, ah, ok.  we can try a dpkg-reconfigure.  if that fails try to uninstall the package and then install it again.
[04:13] <aujordanh> nu, me
[04:13] <SurfnKid> yes a dell
[04:13] <SurfnKid> :P
[04:13] <tanath> Tauhshi: xubuntuk?
[04:13] <SurfnKid> hey mr Jack_Sparrow
[04:13] <CokeNCode> Tauhshi, is this a setup for a joke ?
[04:14] <Davo_Dinkum> im installing dapper on a thinkpad but the network port doesnt work. should i try to fix it during installation or do it after?
[04:14] <SurfnKid> just saw that movie today
[04:14] <redcard> Qwell: Rosetta works on intels.  There's no real way to make Wine work on Powerpc archs, tho.  What's weird is that it'll compile.  It just won't work.
[04:14] <Tixer> the spare dell works without a fan
[04:14] <Qwell> redcard: fun
[04:14] <dystrust> .
[04:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Tixer: I saw a fix for a Dell with the same probelm... Just dont remember wherre
[04:14] <nu> aujordanh: do the icons have a special format?
[04:14] <xed2> sethk: thanks
[04:14] <bruenig> ubu2006, been running with it for 2-3 months, It hasn't done anything on mine and I have ie6, utorrent, this obscure windows command line program installed, runs great
[04:14] <SurfnKid> what kind of dell? is it a laptop?
[04:14] <sethk> Tixer, you can set those limits in the BIOS setup, usually
[04:14] <tanath> anyone use edgy? any probs?
[04:14] <Tixer> I can't get into the bios
[04:14] <catoblepa> Davo_Dinkum: what model?
[04:14] <sethk> Tixer, because of the fan problem?
[04:15] <Tauhshi> CokeNCode: no, I just installed KDE, and Xfce on Ubuntu, and was trying to think of a name . . .
[04:15] <redcard> Qwell: Yeah :P  Quite.  But soon I'll have a PC :)  Then I can play poker again :)
[04:15] <aujordanh> nu, i dont know, i just use the ubuntu ones, usually you can install them from ubuntu menus
[04:15] <Tixer> I have a dell that a friend gave me that works fine, with no fan
[04:15] <Tixer> yeah
[04:15] <Tixer> fucking bios
[04:15] <foo> xed2: dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server
[04:15] <CokeNCode> Tauhshi, oh ... darn ... I was waiting for the punchline ... :/
[04:15] <SurfnKid> yeap
[04:15] <nu> aujordanh: alright. thanks. its for one of the gdesklets thign
[04:15] <foo> xed2: see what that says, if it throws an error, apt-get reinstall --purge openssh-server
[04:15] <SurfnKid> Tixer tell me about it, even with dell laptops its ewwy to mess with bioses
[04:15] <sethk> Tixer, is the problem that the fan is really running but the board thinks it isn't?
[04:15] <Tixer> its not a dell
[04:15] <xed2> foo: did first one, doing, thanks got an OK
[04:16] <Tixer> it has to detect a certain RPM rate I think
[04:16] <Qwell> good lord this install is slow
[04:16] <xed2> nani@zoneminder:~$  /etc/init.d/ssh start
[04:16] <xed2>  * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server... Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key
[04:16] <xed2> Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key
[04:16] <xed2>                                                                          [ ok ] 
[04:16] <xed2> aw
[04:16] <sethk> Qwell, sounds like the installer is using PIO mode for the hard drive.
[04:16] <aujordanh> !pastebin
[04:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:16] <SurfnKid> not sure if the i8k driver would work but you should try it Tixer, what model dell is it
[04:16] <xed2> E: Invalid operation reinstall
[04:16] <Qwell> sethk: It's scsi, if that matters
[04:16] <sethk> xed2, try uninstall, then install.
[04:16] <Qwell> SAS, to be specific
[04:16] <xed2> ok
[04:17] <slavik> ok, I need to fix the command line stuff (tty1 to tty6). when I switch to any of them, I get a 'video mode cannot be displayed' message from my monitor
[04:17] <Geoffrey2> you mean like the one about how Microsoft was developing a new OS that was going to combine the best features of Widows CE, ME, and NT?  and they were going to call it Windows CEMENT?
[04:17] <sethk> Qwell, I meant that in some cases the install program reverts to a very slow method of accessing the disk, and it doesn't necessarily indicate that the thing will run slowly once the install completes.
[04:17] <slavik> Geoffrey2: CEMENT is in heavy use by the italian organized crime groups ;)
[04:17] <Qwell> sethk: right, of course
[04:17] <sethk> Qwell, you could probably figure out which kernel module needs to be loaded to speed up the install, but by the time you figure it out the install would probably have finished.  :)
[04:17] <Tixer> um, its not a dell
[04:17] <xed2>  E: Invalid operation uninstall
[04:17] <Tauhshi> how do I set up a Microphone in Ubuntu, Kubuntu, or Xubuntu (Choose one, I got 'em all)
[04:18] <xed2> AHHH!
[04:18] <Qwell> sethk: well, I'm doing a netboot, so I'm pretty much locked into a small env
[04:18] <xed2> ahahah
[04:18] <Tixer> its an amd board, I can't find any markings
[04:18] <slavik> Tixer: what cpu?
[04:18] <slavik> and amd board meaning amd chipset? or amdboard meaning amd cpu
[04:18] <sethk> Tixer, I think everybody knows it's not a dell by now.  :)  did you answer my question? is the fan running and the board thinks it isn't?  Or is there truly a fan problem?
[04:18] <Davo_Dinkum> how can i set up swap space during an ubuntu installation?
[04:18] <Tixer> the sticker on it says Pro 1200+
[04:18] <slavik> Davo_Dinkum: it does it automatically
[04:19] <sethk> Davo_Dinkum, during the drive partitioning and file system creation phase.
[04:19] <Tixer> if theres a fan or not, it won't run
[04:19] <shiv> My kid unpluged the power from PC while working in gdm, now as soon as I log back in it keeps cycling to command prompt and then to login screen. KDE login session works just fine. What do I do to get back gdm up and running again :(
[04:19] <Davo_Dinkum> how can i get the ethernet port working?
[04:19] <Tixer> it only worked with this one fan i had
[04:19] <Tixer> amd cpu
[04:19] <slavik> Davo_Dinkum: it should work automatically ...
[04:19] <Geoffrey2> ah yes, it's always fun to install an interesting looking application, then find out there's zero documentation to explain how it even works :)
[04:19] <sethk> Tixer, on some mobos there are two fans to worry about, the cpu fan, and a fan inside the power supply.
[04:19] <Davo_Dinkum> it doesnt :(
[04:19] <slavik> Tixer: which cpu (socket if you know)
[04:19] <aujordanh> nu, icons or gdesklets?
[04:20] <tanath> what might cause this (when running apt-get update)?: E: Unable to parse package file /var/lib/apt/lists/mirror.ubuntulinux.nl_dists_dapper-seveas_Release (1)
[04:20] <tich> i can't get audio cds to mount but (as of last night) dvds mounted fine. how do i get the computer to mount cds?
[04:20] <xed2> never mind
[04:20] <bruenig> ubu2006, if you are still there, a little tip with wine, go here and download all of the .exe files and move them to ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/fonts, then "wine whatever.exe" them to install them. It is a bunch of windows fonts, helps a lot of font issues
[04:20] <pdc`afk> shiv: dpkg-reconfigure gdm is worth a shot.
[04:20] <Tixer> I'll check socket....
[04:20] <xed2> someone told me the wrong sytanx
[04:20] <sethk> shiv, I'd try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:20] <bruenig> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/corefonts
[04:20] <slavik> sethk: any idea at fixing tty1-tty6 to actually be able to display them? (monitor give a video mode cannot be displayed problem)
[04:21] <aujordanh> anybody know a better way to play xm radio than firefox?
[04:21] <thasa42> where are knotes saved?
[04:21] <sethk> slavik, see if the is a vga= statement in the kernel line in menu.lst
[04:21] <Tixer> goes to pry up heatsink...
[04:21] <sethk> slavik, either change it to vga=ask, or just get rid of it altogether
[04:22] <Lord-ChewY> what would i use to encode a wav into mp3
[04:22] <Lord-ChewY> ?
[04:22] <Auckland_Pig> how can i run multiple firefox profiles simultaneously?
[04:22] <slavik> sethk: not there
[04:22] <Tixer> the proc appears to be integrated
[04:22] <aujordanh> Lord-ChewY, audacity maybe?
[04:22] <slavik> sethk: what would be proper for 1280x1024@70Hz?
[04:22] <Tixer> never seen that before...
[04:22] <sethk> slavik, that's the only way I know of to get the console video mode screwed up.
[04:22] <Jenkens> gahhhhhhhh
[04:22] <slavik> should I put in vga=ask?
[04:23] <sethk> slavik, yes, try that, see what happens.
[04:23] <jsantos> Oi! algum fala portugus?
[04:23] <jsantos> Tem algum do Brasil ai?
[04:23] <sethk> slavik, It will say something like (space to continue, return to see video modes).   look at the video modes and choose 80x24 (might be 80x25)
[04:23] <Jenkens> slavik: framebuffer?
[04:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !es
[04:23] <xed2> sethk: fool told me to pastebin my error, its quite weird, i unsintalled, reinstalled, it created keys during installation fine and all, but refuses to start, take a look please, it would be ever so appreciated =)
[04:23] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:24] <xed2> http://pastebin.ca/117795
[04:24] <gary> benc: ping
[04:24] <sethk> xed2, looking
[04:24] <slavik> Jenkens: what about framebuffer?
[04:24] <xed2> sethk: thanks !
[04:24] <Tixer> can't find anything to ID the mobo
[04:24] <Jenkens> is that what you are trying to set?
[04:24] <Qwell> heh, 35%...man
[04:24] <slavik> Jenkens: I am trying to get tty1-tty6, because when I switch, my monitor says it can't display the video mode
[04:24] <Geoffrey2> anyone in here ever install the pcsx playstation emulator?
[04:25] <slavik> Geoffrey2: I have ... worked out nice ...
[04:25] <slavik> I forget what I did though :P
[04:25] <sethk> xed2, do ls -l /etc/ssh       make sure all the files are owned by root, group root, and permissions -rw-r--r--  (for ssh_host_dsa_key and ssh_host_rsa_key  -rw-------)
[04:25] <Biggs> anyone know if it's posiable to install the "install lamp server" option after already installing the other option?
[04:25] <Tixer> woots, found proc markings
[04:25] <Geoffrey2> slavik, I installed it...I just have no idea what to do with it now that it's installed.....
[04:26] <Tixer> amd duron
[04:26] <Tauhshi> How do I check for what kind of Microphone I have?
[04:26] <sethk> xed2, if that looks normal, I would erase all the files in that directory and do the uninstall and then install again (Or reconfigure, if that worked)
[04:26] <slavik> Geoffrey2: you need a cd image of a psx game :)
[04:26] <sethk> xed2, erase all the files in /etc/ssh.   back them up first, though, to be safe.
[04:26] <xed2> -rw-------
[04:26] <slavik> Tixer: what socket is this? I have a feeling it might be an AMD760 chipset or a KT266(A)
[04:26] <Geoffrey2> slavik, it can't play straight from a psx cd then?
[04:27] <xed2> not all permissions exist ...
[04:27] <slavik> Geoffrey2: never tried ...
[04:27] <Jenkens> hrmm
[04:27] <Jenkens> vlc says there's a dvdread demuxer error
[04:27] <Jenkens> dvdread cannot open source
[04:27] <Jenkens> yet gxine works
[04:27] <sethk> xed2, -rw------- is correct for ssh_host_dsa_key and ssh_host_rsa_key
[04:27] <slavik> I'll be back ... hopefully vga=ask will work :D
[04:27] <xed2> alright, cool...
[04:27] <xed2> but now what ?
[04:27] <UbuntuJulez> hi, is there a way to mount ISO images?
[04:27] <ron999> how do i listen to streaming radio with xmms player
[04:28] <Qwell> UbuntuJulez: yes, -o loop
[04:28] <Tixer> proc is a d850aut1b
[04:28] <Qwell> mount -t whatever filename.iso /mnt/blah -o loop
[04:28] <sethk> xed2, I'm thinking that /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key is corrupted or damaged.  I would erase the files in /etc/ssh and then uninstall and install.  (or dpkg-reconfigure, if that worked)
[04:28] <UbuntuJulez> Qwell, kind of a vague answer, is this a command?
[04:28] <UbuntuJulez> oh okay thanks
[04:28] <Jenkens> nanchaku kata
[04:29] <sethk> xed2,also...
[04:29] <xed2> sethk, alright thanks ill do that, however im pretty sure dpkg worked, there were no errors, should i try that again first ?
[04:29] <Jenkens> what the ghey
[04:29] <Jenkens> why wont vlc play dvd's
[04:29] <jsantos> Oi! Portuguese speaks, would like to talk with you!
[04:29] <ron999> how do i listen to streaming radio with xmms player
[04:29] <sethk> xed2, yes, I would.  delete the files in /etc/ssh, do the reconfigure, then do an ls -l of /etc/ssh
[04:29] <redcard> Jenkens: Do you have the codecs?
[04:29] <Jenkens> redcard: yep, xine plays 'em fine
[04:29] <Jenkens> "vlc says there's a dvdread demuxer error"
[04:29] <sethk> xed2, if reconfigure creates the files, then you should be ok.  by the way, do    ps aux | grep sshd    to make sure ssh isn't already running
[04:30] <redcard> Hmm.  I've never even tried to play them in vlc, to tell the truth..
[04:30] <UbuntuJulez> Qwell, will something placed /mnt/whatever show up automaticlaly on desktop?
[04:30] <redcard> So.. I really wouldn' know :)  Sorry...
[04:30] <xed2> alrighty, thanks a bunch
[04:30] <sethk> xed2, I don't think it is, with a corrupted file, but check it anyway, since it only takes a second.
[04:30] <ron999> how do i listen to streaming radio with xmms player
[04:31] <redcard> ron999: I would fully recommend streamtuner here :)
[04:31] <Qwell> ron999: asking the same question every minute and a half doesn't help get you an answer
[04:31] <Jack_Sparrow> ron999: We heard you the first time and the second and the third all 60 seconds apart...
[04:31] <lasindi> Hi all, I think that Gstreamer is somehow messing up. I can't play any videos in Totem nor any music in Banshee. I get this error in Banshee: Could not get/set settings from/on resource. How can I fix this?
[04:31] <xed2> sethk, thanks a lot, ill try to let you know what happpens
[04:31] <Qwell> 7 minutes...1%...
[04:31] <krod> How can I play .avi's in totem?
[04:31] <Qwell> sethk: still sure that's the problem? :)
[04:31] <yoshiznit123> hey everyone, i have 2 computers with ubuntu, and i was wondering if i could get a 'diff' of the packages installed on both...?
[04:32] <Jenkens> hmmm odd
[04:32] <ron999> how do i listen to streaming radio with xmms player
[04:32] <sethk> Qwell, I'm never sure of anything, but am I still sure what is which problem?  :)
[04:32] <Qwell> sethk: of this taking forever ;)
[04:33] <yoshiznit123> i know theres an apt-* command to list the packages, but I cant seem to find it in the man pages...
[04:33] <UbuntuJulez> hrm, not sure that command works, i ran it but then i get thsi long description of how i should have ran it..i guess..? <mount -t whatever filename.iso /mnt/blah -o loop>
[04:33] <Qwell> 1% in 7 minutes is...well...that's worse than when I installed aurora on my SS5 :P
[04:33] <sethk> Qwell, that's absurd
[04:33] <sethk> Qwell, is it banging away on the disk?
[04:33] <sethk> Qwell, at that rate it will finish next month
[04:33] <Qwell> nah
[04:33] <Qwell> it's flashing once every couple seconds
[04:34] <tich> my audio CDs can't be mounted (an icon doesn't even appear on the desktop) and can't be played... but in menu>system>disks CDs appear, and it even tells me the number of tracks. how do i fix this?
[04:34] <Qwell> let's put it this way...  it took 45 seconds to unpack gzip
[04:34] <newbee> yo
[04:34] <newbee> how do i get teh logitech mx500 workin on 6.06 with all buttons?
[04:34] <sethk> Qwell, that can't be explained by PIO mode.  PIO mode might be 1/4, or even 1/10 the speed of dma access, but what you are seeing is truly absurd
[04:34] <HackerX> ________I Have Just reinstalled ubuntu and cant get 1280x800 back. i used some little app to do it last time but i cant remember what its called and cant find it again. does anyone know how to get it back?
[04:35] <Qwell> sethk: indeed
[04:35] <sethk> Qwell, did you do anything extra, like tell it to do a complete surface scan?
[04:35] <Qwell> nope, it's just installing packages
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[04:35] <Qwell> didn't even get a choice in the matter, actually
[04:35] <|thunder> newbee, you have to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:35] <bruenig> HackerX, you can see if it is in System>preferences>screen resolution, if not do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and accept all defaults until you get to the screen resolution page where you make sure you check that resolution
[04:36] <sethk> Qwell, go to sleep and hope it is finished by morning.  :)
[04:36] <|thunder> search for the fix for the microsoft back buttons on ubuntu forums
[04:36] <Qwell> sethk: can't sleep with this beast on :P
[04:36] <Ronz> HackerX, by the time you get the app working you could edit the xorg file
[04:36] <bruenig> Ronz, that too
[04:36] <Qwell> it's bigger, faster, and louder, than all of the machines in my house - combined.
[04:36] <Qwell> bigger and louder, at least, anyhow
[04:36] <Biggs> Is there a meta package that install and configures the LAMP Server option?
[04:37] <slavik> nope ... even if I set the 80x25 mode, it still gives me the trouble
[04:37] <sethk> slavik, that's very odd.  it's common to get problems in X, but rare to get problems in console.
[04:37] <slavik> sethk: my thought exactly
[04:37] <|thunder> console is a rock
[04:37] <slavik> sethk: let's not forget that this is edgy ...
[04:37] <ron999> how do i listen to streaming radio with xmms player
[04:38] <sethk> slavik, true
[04:38] <Qwell> ron999: seriously..stop asking
[04:38] <Qwell> ron999: You've already been answered several times
[04:38] <slavik> could be due to a kernel upgrade?
[04:38] <alienseer23> hello :0
[04:38] <Geoffrey2> slavik, ah, there you are...do you know where I can find documenation for pcsx?
[04:38] <sethk> slavik, it's a bug, for sure, so it can be due to pretty much anything, certainly to a kernel upgrade
[04:38] <slavik> Geoffrey2: nope
[04:38] <slavik> sethk: launchpad?
[04:38] <alienseer23> I need a good partitioning/formatting tool? I think partition magic screwed up my partition...again
[04:39] <Qwell> alienseer23: yes, it does that
[04:39] <Qwell> alienseer23: fdisk and mkfs
[04:39] <|thunder> alienseer23, try gparted
[04:39] <alienseer23> mkfs?
[04:39] <Qwell> I actually like using qtparted, from a knoppix cd or something
[04:39] <krod> How can I play .avi's in totem?
[04:39] <sethk> slavik, I don't know, it's certainly possible but that's mostly because anything is possible.
[04:39] <HackerX> Ronz, heres the deal i did the auto config again and 1280x800 was already selected then i looked in the xorg file and its in there. but i have no choice of that in my screen res options  this is the same thing that happen last time. thats why i used the prog
[04:39] <Qwell> krod: You and ron999 should get together and start a club
[04:39] <bruenig> gparted is so much better than partition magic, partition magic costs so much money and it is garbage, not that I paid for it but still
[04:40] <ron999> does anybody know how to listen to streaming radio with xmms player
[04:40] <|thunder> krod, try #automatix
[04:40] <Ronz> ah, oh HackerX
[04:40] <noiesmo> ron999, install streamtuner and streamripper
[04:40] <krod> Qwell, what? For asking similar questions?
[04:40] <Qwell> krod: repeatedly
[04:40] <|thunder> HackerX, nVidia ?
[04:40] <waste> Quick question, where would I go if I am looking for a program?
[04:40] <HackerX> Intel
[04:41] <|thunder> ron999, play location
[04:41] <krod> Qwell, I stepped away from my computer for a second after nonone answered for about 5 mins
[04:41] <|thunder> ron999, right click the app, open/open location. put in a url to a stream
[04:41] <krod> And I don't have nick highlighting.
[04:42] <krod> Qwell, Is that hard to understand?
[04:42] <HackerX> |thunder, Intel
[04:42] <bruenig> !info xmms-wmdiscotux
[04:42] <ubotu> xmms-wmdiscotux: Tux dancing to the music played by xmms. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.3-3 (dapper), package size 45 kB, installed size 196 kB
[04:42] <|thunder> hm. intel video ?
[04:42] <ron999> thunder i want it to open xmms player just as it would open winamp in windows
[04:42] <alienseer23> thanks
[04:42] <HackerX> |thunder, yeh, its onboard... Laptop....
[04:42] <danieleboyo> could anyone tell me a good site where i could learn how to use the terminal?
[04:43] <|thunder> ron999, well. that is up to your browser
[04:43] <noiesmo> ron999, streamtuner will do that it will list radio stations then when you click listen xmms opens
[04:43] <ron999> thunder please explain about browser
[04:43] <Qwell> !mime
[04:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about mime - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:43] <Qwell> silly bot
[04:43] <Ronz> !sex
[04:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about sex - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:43] <Qwell> !mime types
[04:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about mime types - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:44] <|thunder> HackerX, I know that the added resolutions do not work for me until I change "nv" to "nvidia" in xorg.conf. It dosnt support higher than 1024x768 with the mesa(nv) driver
[04:44] <HackerX> |thunder, same exact thing for me. so where is that in the xorg?
[04:44] <goonies> how can i tell what version alsa driver my system is using?
[04:45] <Tsukino> would anyone in here have any idea how to enable throttling in acpi?
[04:45] <|thunder> goonies, 'dmesg'
[04:45] <ron999> thunder please explain about browser and xmms player
[04:45] <danieleboyo> would anyone have any idea as to where i could go to learn basic linux stuff (like terminal commands, and just basic programming?)
[04:46] <bruenig> goonies, System>preferences>sound
[04:46] <UbuntuJulez> does anyone know how to browse to directories specified in many websites or help files that start with a ~.nameofdirectory/
[04:46] <Qwell> danieleboyo: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/gs/gs.html
[04:46] <farous> the ubuntu local support http://www.ubuntu.com/support/local indicates that the hebrew and arabic support for the documentation is maintained by the local hebrew/arabic. Yet all the documentation is only in hebrew no mention to an arabic support on their webpage. Now why the claim is maintained if the support is not there. How to correct that by making only reference to hebrew support. I would like also to volunteer to translate the documentati
[04:46] <|thunder> HackerX, Section "Device" in xorg.    "Driver" goes from "nv" to "nvidia"
[04:46] <troytroy> danieleboyo: try the linux cbt series
[04:47] <|thunder> ron999, how media is handled is determined by your browser. not the system.
[04:47] <slavik> unworking terminals suck :(
[04:47] <goonies> |thunder, i have nothing under dmesg that refers to alsa
[04:47] <danieleboyo> cbt series?
[04:47] <danieleboyo> thanks qwell!
[04:47] <ron999> thunder is there a setting in firefox
[04:47] <goonies> bruenig, it doesnt say what version of alsa is being used
[04:47] <UbuntuJulez> !~.
[04:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about ~. - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:47] <troytroy> danieleboyo: computer based training
[04:47] <UbuntuJulez> :(
[04:48] <sparkleytone> UbuntuJulez: ~ is the homedir...so ~ubuntu would be the 'ubuntu' user's homedir
[04:48] <|thunder> goonies, but you have to have nvidia drivers installed for that to work or x will panic. you'll have to figure out what drivres you want to use
[04:48] <Jenkens> fark
[04:48] <|thunder> ron999, not that I know of
[04:48] <Jenkens> vlc doesn't know what dvd:// is
[04:48] <UbuntuJulez> i have a directory i'm supposed to browse to called ~.gnome/nautilu-scripts
[04:48] <Jenkens> if i point it to /media/cdrom0 it works
[04:48] <Linuturk> E-Gnome isn't loading
[04:48] <Jenkens> is there a fix?
[04:48] <UbuntuJulez> but i can't browse to that directory
[04:48] <goonies> i dont have a nvidia card
[04:48] <goonies> i just want to know what alsa version im using =P
[04:48] <sparkleytone> UbuntuJulez: its ~/.gnome ya
[04:48] <dibblego>  |thunder, fwiw, I have given up on the nvidia driver - it causes a kernel panic if I attempt to use it instead if "nv"
[04:49] <|thunder> goonies, sorry. that was for HackerX
[04:49] <Linuturk> UbuntuJulez, hit control + H in nautilus
[04:49] <goonies> oh heh
[04:49] <UbuntuJulez> okay
[04:49] <Adam_G> Is there some trick to making extended partitions in gparted? It's not showing up as an option for me
[04:49] <|thunder> dibblego, what card ?
[04:49] <sparkleytone> UbuntuJulez: the / matters...and .dirname or .filename simply means the file is 'hidden' to normal listing
[04:49] <Linuturk> when you are in your home directory
[04:49] <dibblego> |thunder, PCX5300
[04:49] <goonies> =\
[04:49] <danieleboyo> troy troy : where could i find a linux cbt?
[04:49] <Jenkens> anyone know that one?
[04:49] <noiesmo> dibblego, did you install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[04:49] <|thunder> dibblego, is that audio or video ?   i got conversations confused
[04:49] <dibblego> noiesmo, yes
[04:50] <Jack_Sparrow> UbuntuJulez:   folders starting with . are hidden, you must tell Nautilus to show hidden
[04:50] <dibblego> |thunder, video card
[04:50] <UbuntuJulez> okay i understand that notiation means the file is probably hidden or specific to a person's machine
[04:50] <|thunder> dibblego, did you try legacy drivers ?
[04:50] <UbuntuJulez> but the directory i'm attemting to access doens't come up
[04:50] <UbuntuJulez> so i'm lost
[04:50] <waste> Where could I find out if a simple GUI for mounting CD images to a folder exists? And if one doesn't, where could I request one be made?
[04:50] <dibblego> |thunder, no I didn't
[04:50] <UbuntuJulez> ~.gnome/nautilus-scripts
[04:50] <troytroy> danieleboyo: hmm try googling for linux cbt
[04:50] <|thunder> grab easyubuntu. it has theh option to try older nvidia drivers
[04:50] <sparkleytone> UbuntuJulez: ~/.gnome not ~.gnome
[04:50] <UbuntuJulez> Easyubuntu rocks!!!
[04:50] <noiesmo> dibblego, dam sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) then adjust xorg.conf is normally all thats needed to get nvidia
[04:50] <Geoffrey2> well, I'm just gonna run up the white flag on the PSX emulator....seemed like a neat thing, but there appears to be a complete lack of any documentation on how to use it....
[04:51] <|thunder> dibblego, wait
[04:51] <Nomikos> hello, i just ran apt-get update & dist-upgrade, but got some warnings.. http://root.mechintosh.com/warning.txt - wondering if it's safe to reboot now?
[04:51] <troytroy> danieleboyo: and if u are in an area where torrent clients are permited ...
[04:51] <UbuntuJulez> THANKS Sparkley! :-)
[04:51] <UbuntuJulez> and Jack
[04:51] <dibblego> noiesmo, yeah I know; I might have another attempt one day
[04:51] <noiesmo> dibblego, k :) good luck
[04:51] <sparkleytone> Nomikos: unless you use an atheros-based wifi card, should be fine
[04:51] <slavik> now then, onto menu.lst
[04:51] <waste> Anyone?
[04:51] <Nomikos> sparkleytone: any idea what the warnings indicate?
[04:51] <Linuturk> I've got Enlightenment installed as an alternate window manager. I can run default Gnome, and Enlightenment by itself, but if I try E-Gnome (the hybrid), it won't load up. After I try loading up E-Gnome, and I control+alt+backspace to retry default gnome, it doesn't load. I have to reboot
[04:52] <Emon> Hello
[04:52] <slavik> to have windows boot by default, do I just change the menu.lst to have the windows stuff before anything else?
[04:52] <|thunder> dibblego, did you install the nVidia drivers first? brfore changing to nvidia ?
[04:52] <Nomikos> sparkleytone: i won't be home for another few days, so.. i'd like to be reasonably sure ;-)
[04:52] <Qwell> slavik: change the default= line
[04:52] <sparkleytone> Nomikos: it means that the atheros wifi cards are misconfigured or so
[04:52] <|thunder> dibblego, with something like this? 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-glx'
[04:52] <sethk> slavik, there is a line     default  #             0 is the first option, 1 the second, etc.
[04:52] <slavik> ty
[04:52] <UbuntuJulez> how does one create a bash script?
[04:52] <Nomikos> sparkleytone: ooh ok. rocking, thanks
[04:52] <dibblego> |thunder, yes, actually I installed the driver off the nvidia website, so maybe that was a mistake - it puts the files in the wrong place, so I symnlinked it - then I undid it all and tried nvidia-glx package
[04:52] <sethk> slavik, no =, just default #
[04:52] <sparkleytone> Nomikos: unless its an ubuntu-supplied kernel, i wouldn't ever do it remotely
[04:53] <Jack_Sparrow> UbuntuJulez:   you will find it in /home/your username./gnome
[04:53] <|thunder> UbuntuJulez, put some commands in a text file and chmod +x it. thhe  run ./thescript
[04:53] <|thunder> run this. 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-glx'
[04:53] <Nomikos> sparkleytone: i just did regular apt-get stuff, usual repositories. should be safe then, no?
[04:53] <sethk> dibblego, I've always used the driver from the nivida site, and not had a problem.
[04:53] <|thunder> then change to nvidia
[04:53] <sparkleytone> UbuntuJulez: you're welcome :)
[04:53] <UbuntuJulez> i'm attempting to store scripts in the nautilus-scripts folder so that i can right-click on ISO images and mount/unmount them in nautils
[04:53] <Linuturk> I've got Enlightenment installed as an alternate window manager. I can run default Gnome, and Enlightenment by itself, but if I try E-Gnome (the hybrid), it won't load up. After I try loading up E-Gnome, and I control+alt+backspace to retry default gnome, it doesn't load. I have to reboot. Any troubleshooting tips?
[04:53] <|thunder> and maybe try disabling dri in xorg.conf modules
[04:54] <dibblego> sethk, I used it with Breezy without a problem - but it still puts files in the wrong (old) place
[04:54] <UbuntuJulez> i have the script syntax and have put it in text editor but wasn't sure if i shoudl just shave them in that folder with the extension of a script or...
[04:54] <noiesmo> dibblego, the last time i used the nvidia driver had problems too so do it the ubuntu way and should work I rember I had to remove the nvidia site one with and --uninstall tag
[04:55] <Emon> I've just installed a LAMP server with Ubuntu server, and the hostname is set (from the installer), but other hosts on the network cannot refer to said machine as its hostname, only IP address. it's like it's ignoring DNS or something
[04:55] <dibblego> noiesmo, yep that's what I did
[04:55] <|thunder> no script extension
[04:55] <noiesmo> dibblego, ok dam
[04:55] <|thunder> you can pass arguements to scripts from bash with %1 too
[04:56] <dibblego> noiesmo, I guess I could boot off the live CD and try again the ubuntu way to see if it is my current set up
[04:56] <noiesmo> dibblego, yeh should hopefully help sort it
[04:56] <UbuntuJulez> sorry thunder, not to clear on what you mean by that
[04:56] <Ronz> hey, how do i edit grub with ubuntu?
[04:57] <mister_roboto> |thunder: it's $1 (and $2, $3, ..., $n)
[04:57] <|thunder> woops, ma bad
[04:57] <|thunder> thx
[04:58] <|thunder> i used fg earlier, ;)
[04:59] <fork> does ubuntu ubuntu have a stable, testing and unstable packages like debian?
[04:59] <troytroy> fork: for real
[04:59] <farous> the ubuntu local support http://www.ubuntu.com/support/local indicates that the hebrew and arabic support for the documentation is maintained by the local hebrew/arabic. Yet all the documentation is only in hebrew no mention to an arabic support on their webpage. Now why the claim is maintained if the support is not there. How to correct that by making only reference to hebrew support. I would like also to volunteer to translate the documentati
[04:59] <Nomikos> sparkleytone: reboot worked, thanks ;-)
[04:59] <fork> troytroy ??
[05:00] <fork> troytroy sorry i am new to linux
[05:00] <sparkleytone> Nomikos: np
[05:00] <bbrazil> Emon: eh, you have to set it up on your DNS server
[05:00] <sethk> farous, I'm sure that a translation would be gratefully accepted.  I'm not sure who is in charge of it, though
[05:00] <bimberi> fork: no it's 2 really, stable (dapper atm) and testing/unstable (edgy atm)
[05:00] <Linuturk> !E-Gnome
[05:00] <ubotu> I know nothing about E-Gnome - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:00] <Emon> bbrazil, ...
[05:00] <|thunder> farous, thats great. wish i knew where to send you.
[05:00] <sparkleytone> fork: the current release is generally considered 'stable'
[05:00] <troytroy> fork: ubuntu and debian are siblings
[05:00] <sparkleytone> fork: the upcoming release would be testing/unstable
[05:00] <bbrazil> Emon: everytihng is working exactly as it should. I don't know how your DNS infrastructure is setup so I can't help you further
[05:00] <sparkleytone> fork: ubuntu can be seen as a forked hybrid of etch/sid
[05:00] <farous> sethk: on the website it say just go to irc channel or use the mailing list i am using the former approach now
[05:00] <Emon> bbrazil, I have never had to touch the DNS server on my router (I don't even think I can) for any other machine running any other OS
[05:00] <UbuntuJulez> not sure wht to name this text file that mounts and unmounts ISO images in Nautilus
[05:00] <micahcowan> sparkleytone, I'd consider the current release to generally be considered "testing"... :-)
[05:01] <troytroy> fork: just that debian is big bro so ubuntu looks up to him
[05:01] <Emon> It's not a problem with the server
[05:01] <bimberi> fork: note that ubuntu doesn't really use those debian terms though
[05:01] <sparkleytone> micahcowan: it works great for me on two deployed servers
[05:01] <farous> thnx  |thunder wish i know mysefl
[05:01] <micahcowan> sparkleytone, so would testing, for most people. stable is just pretty dang stable.
[05:01] <bbrazil> Emon: well, you need to get the DNS resolver that the other hosts are using to recognise the lamp server
[05:01] <sparkleytone> micahcowan: i've had zero issues.  now all this X11 fuss and XGL...well...X11 is a crappy display engine
[05:02] <Emon> bbrazil, you mean set the DNS server manually? why should I have to do that
[05:02] <bbrazil> Emon: because that's how DNS generally works
[05:02] <Emon> uhhh
[05:02] <Emon> I've never had to do that for any OS, including probably a dozen flavors of linux
[05:02] <Mercutio150> Hello everyone
[05:03] <Hellavator> hello
[05:03] <Mercutio150> can someone point me in the driection of a good dvd player program?
[05:03] <Hellavator> i suppose you've tried mPlayer?
[05:03] <bbrazil> Emon: what's your DHCP server?
[05:03] <Mercutio150> tried xine and mplayer
[05:03] <Emon> Infact every system I have used has been so easily plug and play that I don't even know where to look to fix this
[05:03] <sethk> farous, I understand.  Unfortunately, as I said, I don't know the proper person to handle this.  I do know that there is an effort to support internationalization and that a translation will be greatly appreciated.
[05:03] <micahcowan> sparkleytone, note that I don't mean it as a slight to Ubuntu by any means (I did choose it over Debian, after all). We just put a higher focus on features and cutting-edgeness than on having an absolutely stable, throughly-tested-before-blessed distro.
[05:03] <Emon> bbrazil, a broadband router
[05:03] <Mercutio150> but they don't want to run any dvds anymore
[05:03] <bbrazil> Emon: model?
[05:03] <troytroy> Mercutio150: yeah mplayer rocks
[05:04] <sparkleytone> oh i understand micahcowan
[05:04] <Emon> bbrazil, some US Robotics something or another
[05:04] <Mercutio150> mpapyer won't play dvds anymore though
[05:04] <Emon> mpapyer? :P
[05:04] <troytroy> Mercutio150: anymore?
[05:04] <fork> is ubuntu's hardware detection better then debian's?
[05:04] <bbrazil> Emon: have you configured a statip IP on the server?
[05:04] <farous> sethk: thanx i will try to ask later then. Thanx for your help. Now will continue searching on ubuntu.com :)
[05:04] <sparkleytone> micahcowan: my main point is that all the underlying tech is plenty stable.  when X11 gets involved, and sound...that's when things get unstable
[05:04] <Mercutio150> I used to but after one of the updates it no longer plays dvds
[05:04] <Emon> bbrazil, no, it is using DHCP
[05:05] <Emon> er sorry
[05:05] <Emon> did you mean my LAMP server or the DHCP server?
[05:05] <troytroy> Mercutio150: i see
[05:05] <bbrazil> Emon: the LAMP one
[05:05] <Emon> bbrazil, in that case, no, it's using DHCP
[05:05] <Mercutio150> I get an error trying to run the .vob files
[05:06] <micahcowan> sparkleytone, I agree it's pretty stable... but it's still closer in stability to Debian testing, IMO.
[05:06] <micahcowan> just IMHO.
[05:06] <troytroy> i guess u ve updated some supporting pkgs
[05:06] <sparkleytone> micahcowan: yeah.  i said etch/sid ;)
[05:07] <Mercutio150> yeah I guess I could go back through synaptic and find the right libs
[05:07] <bbrazil> Emon: This isn't really an ubuntu problem. You'll have to look at the docs for your router and see how to do DNS stuff with it. I doubt it will have the required features
[05:07] <Linuturk> when a package is installed, it's dependencies are installed as well. When I want to remove that program, only the 1 package is removed. Is there a way to remove the program and the dependices that are no longer used?
[05:07] <Emon> bbrazil, are you even listening to me
[05:07] <bbrazil> Emon: as a temporary fix you could give the lamp server a stati IP and add it to the hosts files of each of the other systems
[05:08] <sparkleytone> Linuturk: as much as you think you want that...you don't want that.  and generally no, there isn't a way.
[05:08] <Emon> nevermind
[05:09] <Linuturk> sparkleytone, well, i'm having problems with E-Gnome
[05:09] <bbrazil> Emon: yes. you have a lamp host that you wish to refer to by a hostname. It's not currently in DNS, you need to add it to DNS as I read it
[05:09] <Linuturk> and I'm trying to track it down sparkleytone
[05:10] <] GD> heyy, i'm currently running ubuntu off of the LiveCD... yesterday I installed Microsoft Windows XP on what I believe to be another partition on my hard-drive, but today I wanted to use ubuntu again, I'm having trouble booting doing this.. i've tried using GAG but it finds Linux and adds it to the OS-list but when trying to boot ubuntu it says it can't find it. So i went to Ubuntu LiveCD and ran Gparted and checked if the other partit
[05:10] <gorodek> hi, i try to permantly decrypt my "dm-crypt"ed disk, but coudnt find any tutorial describing this procedure. any suggestions?
[05:10] <tinkerer> i have a symlink from hda to hdb. i'm worried that everythime i save stuff using that symlink, it makes 2 copies of every file. i get this impression when i see the different "Volume" location in File/Properties.
[05:10] <Emon> bbrazil, yes, but there is *nothing* wrong with my network. nothing. all the other hosts work fine by hostname. therefore, it's something on the ubuntu box
[05:10] <Emon> either something wrong or something missing
[05:10] <tinkerer> how can i make sure that this isnt' tha case?
[05:10] <bbrazil> Emon: what services are you accessing via hostname on the other boxes?
[05:10] <Emon> there is no way I need to go into my router to manually setup my ubuntu box or something. that would be completely insane
[05:11] <micahcowan> tinkerer, well, since both hda and hdb are the same disk, I don't see how you could make two copies of the same file. If you have them both mounted, you'd see the same file twice...
[05:11] <Emon> bbrazil, windows file/printer sharing, http
[05:11] <sparkleytone> Emon: what OS are the others running?
[05:11] <Emon> remote desktop
[05:11] <bbrazil> Emon: windows file sharing doesn't count - it uses a different way of resolving names
[05:11] <tinkerer> micahcowan: oh. well hda is supposed to be my 6gig disk, while hdb is supposed to be my 12gig disk
[05:12] <ubu2006> when using Wine and downloading any .exe file, do I need to scan the .exe file before running on Dapper through Wine?
[05:12] <Emon> maybe, but my local wamp server works
[05:12] <tinkerer> micahcowan: or maybe i misunderstanding. (?)
[05:12] <Emon> and other protocols like ICMP work
[05:12] <sparkleytone> Emon: what's completely insane is to just expect a machine to 'know' the hostname of another machine without either manually making that happen or installing noisy services
[05:12] <micahcowan> what do you mean when you say you have a symlink from hda to hdb, then? A symlink at a particular spot into a directory residing on hdb?
[05:12] <micahcowan> tinkerer
[05:12] <FR500> hello
[05:12] <Emon> "noisy" services eh
[05:12] <Biggs> penor
[05:12] <micahcowan> FR500, hello
[05:12] <bbrazil> Emon: this boils down to nsswitch(or windows equivilent). Then could be using NetBIOS rather than DNS to resolve
[05:13] <Emon> I have never needed to specify hostnames of other machines, ever, on any distro.
[05:13] <bbrazil> Emon: *they
[05:13] <FR500> lately, i can't seem to be able to use my gmail account with evolution, does anyone have the same problem?
[05:13] <Emon> none of my machines have NetBIOS
[05:13] <bbrazil> Emon: sorry, SMB
[05:13] <tinkerer> micahcowan: yes, you said my name
[05:13] <sparkleytone> Emon: then your router read the hostname of the machine and set it
[05:13] <sparkleytone> Emon: which is not happening with your current machine
[05:13] <ubu2006> when using Wine and downloading any .exe file, do I need to scan the .exe file before running on Dapper through Wine?
[05:13] <Emon> sparkleytone, yeah, and why is that
[05:13] <ubu2006> how can I upgrade flash to version 8 on Dapper?
[05:13] <Emon> that's what I'm trying to figure out
[05:13] <wheels3572> Can anyone help me with tightvnc
[05:14] <FR500> ubu2006: not really and noway, there is no flash 8 for linux
[05:14] <FR500> !flash
[05:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:14] <sparkleytone> Emon: don't know.  again most likely not an ubuntu issue
[05:14] <ubu2006> ok
[05:14] <Emon> sparkleytone, if gentoo on the exact same machine on the exact same network does not have this error, but ubuntu does, how is that NOT an ubuntu issue
[05:14] <micahcowan> tinkerer, I meant to draw your attention to the line above it :)
[05:14] <BrMiHi08> Anyone want to give me a hand setting up windows 2000 in grub, I have looked around online, but I have not found much.
[05:15] <sparkleytone> Emon: what is /etc/hostname set to?
[05:15] <micahcowan> ubu2006,  flash only goes to 7 currently, for linux.
[05:15] <Emon> the hostname of my machine
[05:15] <bbrazil> Emon: on the gentoo machine, can you give me the hosts line from /etc/nsswitch.conf?
[05:15] <henzo> hello
[05:15] <BrMiHi08> hi
[05:15] <Emon> bbrazil, the gentoo machine no logner exists. it is running ubuntu now :P
[05:16] <sparkleytone> Emon: if you're going to be a dick about getting help, just go somewhere else.
[05:16] <fork> is ubuntu's hardware detection better then that of debian's?
[05:16] <Emon> sparkleytone, if you're just going to shrug it off as "not and ubuntu problem," maybe I'll go somewhere else
[05:16] <FR500> lately, i can't seem to be able to use my gmail account with evolution, does anyone have the same problem?
[05:16] <MistaED> BrMiHi08: do you know where win2000 is located? like /dev/hda1 or something?
[05:16] <FR500> fork: should be about the same
[05:16] <sparkleytone> Emon: then we agree.
[05:16] <roler> there are certain daemons running on my ubuntu that I just don't think I need but unbuntu-standard won't let me remove them. Daemons such as mdadm, lvm, etc...
[05:17] <BrMiHi08> MistaED: it is on /dev/hda1 actually
[05:17] <wheels3572> Can anyone help me figure out what is using 192.168.1.101 on my network
[05:17] <Josh> Hey
[05:17] <ubu2006> micahcowan: ok ty
[05:17] <bbrazil> wheels3572: nmap -O
[05:17] <Josh> I got xubuntu installed (woo!)
[05:17] <wheels3572> bbrazil, ty
[05:17] <FR500> wheels3572: install nmap and sudo nmap -O 192.168.1.101
[05:17] <MistaED> BrMiHi08: ok this will be pretty easy i reckon, i'll send you a query of some lines i have in my menu.lst for grub
[05:18] <Josh> It detects my Wireless card, but doesnt show any networks
[05:18] <sparkleytone> roler: ubuntu-standard is just an identifier that a predefined set of stuff is installed...you don't have to have ubuntu-standard installed
[05:18] <FR500> bbrazil: beat me
[05:18] <Schalken> does having the system monitor update every 50milliseconds decrease performance?
[05:18] <FR500> Josh: iwconfig?
[05:18] <bbrazil> FR500: there'll be another time :)
[05:18] <Josh> FR500: I've been using the net-admin utility
[05:19] <wheels3572> bbrazil, or FR500 does what ever 101 is using have to be on?
[05:19] <FR500> Josh: does iwconfig show networks
[05:19] <Josh> Nope
[05:19] <bbrazil> wheels3572: yes, and accepting pings
[05:19] <FR500> wheels3572: yes
[05:19] <Josh> "no wireless extentions"
[05:19] <FR500> Josh: then that is not you wifi card
[05:19] <sethk> Schalken, not significantly
[05:19] <Josh> ah, okay.
[05:19] <FR500> anyone with a gmail account?
[05:19] <Josh> hold on
[05:20] <Josh> It does show them
[05:20] <Josh> FR500; I've got a gmail account
[05:20] <roler> sparkleytone, ok thanks!
[05:20] <Josh> eth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:off/any  Nickname:"Broadcom 4306" Mode:Managed  Access Point: Invalid   Bit Rate=1 Mb/s RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0 Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[05:20] <FR500> Josh: could you test it with evolution?
[05:20] <FR500> Josh: doesn't work for me
[05:20] <wheels3572> Ok.  I only have 1 slight problem.  101 is supposedly taken but I have no devices that are taking it lol.  See my Desktop is 100 and then my laptop is 102 (I have NO IDEA where 101 is being used at)
[05:20] <FR500> Josh: does your net have wpa?
[05:20] <Josh> FR500: Evolution?
[05:20] <Josh> FR500: WEP
[05:21] <FR500> Josh: yes, gnome's email client
[05:21] <ikaruga> hullo all, for some reason opengl related stuff stopped working---screensavers, games, etc.
[05:21] <Josh> FR500: xfce ;)
[05:21] <FR500> Josh laptop?
[05:21] <FR500> ahh
[05:21] <Josh> FR500 indeed
[05:21] <troytroy> hi anybody with clues on how to intigerate yahoo,hotmail and gmail into thunderbird
[05:21] <micahcowan> wheels3572, can you ping it? Are you using wifi?
[05:21] <FR500> Josh: try to install network manager
[05:21] <roler> sparkleytone, ; are you sure though ? ubuntu-base depends on ubuntu-standard :) I don't want to remove something if it's going to mess my system up.
[05:21] <Josh> troytroy: gmail possible, visit gmail.com and setup pop3
[05:21] <MistaED> BrMiHi08: you there?
[05:21] <bbrazil> Emon: install samba on the malp server, see if that fixes it
[05:22] <FR500> troytroy: you can't, only gmail, afaik, hotmail does not proide pop
[05:22] <Josh> troytroy: yahoo, dont know. search for "yahoo pop3"
[05:22] <BrMiHi08> yes I am
[05:22] <sparkleytone> roler: again, its a 'fake' package...its a symbol
[05:22] <wheels3572> micahcowan, it's unpingable and yes I am on wireless
[05:22] <Josh> troytroy: no hotmail unless you have hotmailplus
[05:22] <sethk> troytroy, use fetchmail to consolidate the mail, then use tbird normally
[05:22] <sparkleytone> if you look at the description of those packages it says so
[05:22] <jdrake> If a segmentation fault occurs, is there a core file put somewhere?
[05:22] <roler> sparkleytone, again, thanks. :P
[05:22] <sparkleytone> roler: np
[05:22] <Emon> bbrazil, okay
[05:22] <FR500> Josh: gonna give network manager a shot?
[05:22] <sethk> jdrake, depends on the ulimit
[05:22] <bbrazil> jdrake: depends on your ulimit, ulimit -c iirc
[05:22] <Josh> FR500: what network manager would that be?
[05:22] <sethk> jdrake, by default, the max core size is set to 0, and there is no core file
[05:22] <troytroy> aight guys
[05:23] <sethk> jdrake, when a core file is created, it is created in the current directory
[05:23] <bbrazil> jdrake: currect directtory by default if it does
[05:23] <FR500> Josh: it's an utility, find it in synaptic
[05:23] <sethk> jdrake, that is, whatever was the current directory when the process was launched.
[05:23] <Josh> FR500: I'll take a look now
[05:23] <jdrake> Also, is it possible to get gdb to connect to a process by pid? I can't seem to figure out how to
[05:23] <sethk> jdrake, yes, it's possible.
[05:23] <bbrazil> sethk: I thought it was getcwd()
[05:23] <bbrazil> jdrake: -p iirc
[05:24] <sethk> jdrake, probably you have to use sudo
[05:24] <bbrazil> jdrake: actually just gdb 2343
[05:24] <wheels3572> will nmap search my entire network and tell me what internal ip's are being used where
[05:24] <Emon> bbrazil, that fixed it, thanks
[05:24] <bbrazil> wheels3572: it's capable of doing that
[05:24] <sethk> bbrazil, I don't believe so, but I could be wrong.
[05:24] <Josh> FR500: Downloading and installing
[05:24] <Emon> bbrazil, I suppose other distros I have used had samba by default
[05:24] <micahcowan> wheels3572, yes but they have to be up and running.
[05:24] <Josh> FR500: installed
[05:24] <FR500> kk
[05:25] <FR500> wheels3572: try man nmap
[05:25] <wheels3572> I am turing laptop on now
[05:25] <bbrazil> Emon: right, you're not using DNS then to resolve stuff. Don't expect things to work from the ubuntu server
[05:25] <wheels3572> right manual :) duhhh me
[05:25] <MadHatter_> Hello.  I am trying to login remotely on my machine which is running 6.06.  I need to launch the graphical login screen on my local network.   I am connecting to this via a windows machine.  Any suggestions?
[05:25] <wheels3572> ty FR500
[05:25] <jdrake> ok
[05:25] <micahcowan> wheels3572, you're basing the assumption of a 101 device on the fact that your devices are 100 and 102, yes? What's running the DHCP server?
[05:25] <FR500> Josh: it's like a system service, try /etc/init.d/NetworkManager start
[05:25] <Emon> bbrazil, you're right, I thought I was though :P
[05:25] <jdrake> I found out why it is crashing I think
[05:25] <jdrake> #0  0x499b74da in XFreeFont () from /usr/lib/libX11.so.6
[05:25] <UbuntuJulez> umount: /media/ISO is not in the fstab (and you are not root)  :-(
[05:25] <sethk> MadHatter_, use xdmcp and run an X server on the windows box.   the cygwin package includes an X server that runs on windows
[05:25] <FR500> Josh: should work at boot
[05:25] <MistaED> BrMiHi08: please check the query messages i've sent you
[05:26] <wheels3572> micahcowan, Exactly what I am basing that on
[05:26] <wheels3572> My router
[05:26] <micahcowan> wheels3572, Oh: and can you currently ping 100 and 102 from eachother?
[05:26] <wheels3572> Yes
[05:26] <Emon> bbrazil, I was probably thinking of my network at school (I just came home last week), which does have DNS available...well, that's my excuse for my stupidity :P
[05:26] <BrMiHi08> MistaED: I am, have you gotten mine back?
[05:26] <FR500> does xfce have a notification area?
[05:26] <micahcowan> wheels3572, No, I'm asking you, how do you know theres a 101 device?
[05:26] <wheels3572> micahcowan, let me double check that
[05:26] <MistaED> BrMiHi08: nope
[05:26] <Josh> FR500: /etc/init.d/NetworkManager: command not found
[05:26] <sethk> Josh, network-manager
[05:26] <BrMiHi08> MistaED: I've sent you a few back
[05:26] <sethk> Josh, and just run sudo network-manager
[05:26] <Emon> Are there any tools for managing init scripts like gentoo's rc-update, rc-status, etc?
[05:26] <Josh> ah k
[05:26] <MadHatter_> thanks ill give it a try
[05:26] <wheels3572> micahcowan, because my internal ips aren't in synch.  If 101 wasn't being used wouldn't it be picked up and used and not skipped?
[05:26] <bbrazil> Emon: jsut be thankful that that fixed it. I don't know much about mdns or dynamic DNS updates (with or without DHCP) which were the other possibilties
[05:27] <Josh> sudo: network-manager: command not found
[05:27] <UbuntuJulez> Help! I can't unmount a volume :-(
[05:27] <MistaED> BrMiHi08: odd, i can't see them, weird
[05:27] <FR500> Josh: wrong too, its only sudo NetworkManager
[05:27] <micahcowan> wheels3572, okay that's what I thought you were saying: just double-checking.
[05:27] <sparkleytone> Emon: update-rc.d
[05:27] <jdrake> I would have expected a full backtrace out of my core file, but ddd doesn't list anything but that one line
[05:27] <HackerX> ___________What C compiler should i use????
[05:27] <Josh> FR500: that one worked :p
[05:27] <Auckland_Pig> gnome doesnt recognize bin directory with $PATH even though i set it in both .gnomerc and .bash_profile.
[05:27] <BrMiHi08> MistaED:I am working on it right now, I let you know if I have more trouble
[05:27] <Emon> sparkleytone, ah, thanks
[05:28] <MistaED> BrMiHi08: oh right, i think you need to register your nick with freenode to send back query messages, ohwell just send the messages this way through the channel
[05:28] <HackerX> ! C compiler
[05:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about C compiler - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:28] <BrMiHi08> ok
[05:28] <kevi1> hi guys and gals
[05:28] <HackerX> ! compiler
[05:28] <sparkleytone> !gcc > HackerX
[05:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about compiler - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:28] <FR500> Josh now on X, start nm-applet
[05:28] <Auckland_Pig> !$PATH
[05:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about $PATH - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:28] <micahcowan> wheels3572, it is possible that one of your other devices had temporarily got 101, and then were reassigned for one reason or another. If your network's not locked down, it's also possible a neighbor or somesuch was using it temporarily. But, if they're not currently connected, you wouldn't be able to determine much. /Except/, your DHCP server should have a record of what MAC address it assigned 101 to.
[05:28] <sethk> Auckland_Pig, have you restarted the desktop (logged out and back in) after changing the PATH in those files?
[05:28] <kevi1> im new .. having trouble loading my wireless drivers etc .. can anyone tell me how to do it?
[05:28] <micahcowan> wheels3572, were you able to ping?
[05:28] <Josh> FR500: x? start nm-applet?
[05:28] <FR500> kevi1: chipset?
[05:28] <Auckland_Pig> sethk: yes... even restarted my computuer....
[05:29] <kevi1> intel 915
[05:29] <FR500> Josh: type alt-f2 in XFCE and run that command
[05:29] <sethk> Auckland_Pig, that's odd.  does your .bashrc source your .bash_profile?
[05:29] <Auckland_Pig> sethk: interestingly, the path is set correctly on the command line terminal
[05:29] <jdrake> Why is it I could modify the core size once, but it doesn't let me do it twice
[05:29] <nu> hello
[05:29] <sethk> Auckland_Pig, oh, ok, you need to add it to the default init files in /etc
[05:29] <Josh> The command "Start nm-applet" failed to run
[05:29] <micahcowan> hi nu
[05:29] <wheels3572> micahcowan, can I get you in a side window cuz I would like to see if something picked up on my mac address just dont know ho to do that lol
[05:29] <bbrazil> jdrake: there's hard and soft limits. Only root can increase the hard limit
[05:29] <FR500> just nm-applet
[05:29] <Josh> Failed to execute child process "start"
[05:29] <wheels3572> I am pinging soons I install nmap on laptop
[05:30] <sethk> Auckland_Pig, I use zsh so I don't have those glitches.
[05:30] <Josh> Failed to execute child process "nm-applet"
[05:30] <Auckland_Pig> sethk: oh ok...
[05:30] <Josh> No such file or dir
[05:30] <FR500> weird
[05:30] <micahcowan> not sure I'll know either. You can PM me, sure: but you may get the most benefit from remaining on list, in case someone else here can fill in the wide gaps of my own knowledge. :)
[05:30] <FR500> Josh forgot one
[05:30] <sethk> they changed network-admin to NetworkAdmin in V6?  I wish they wouldn't do things like that.  :)
[05:31] <FR500> Josh sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[05:31] <BrMiHi08> mistaED: did you get my PM now?
[05:31] <UbuntuJulez> I need help unmounting a directory, i get an error message when attempting to do it
[05:31] <UbuntuJulez> umount: /media/ISO is not in the fstab (and you are not root)
[05:31] <wheels3572> micahcowan, Ok I will stay here :) lol
[05:31] <Josh> FR500: even though its xfce?
[05:31] <lecaros> hi guys
[05:31] <wheels3572> Ummmmm I can ping 102 and 100 from one another
[05:31] <Unix_n_Coffee> My Nivida Graphics card was working and stopped working :| ... I'm not running the 3d acceleration now
[05:31] <FR500> Josh: yep
[05:31] <MistaED> BrMiHi08: yep now i can
[05:31] <micahcowan> wheels3572,  what operating system is your DHCP server running on?
[05:31] <wheels3572> my Desktop (100) & my Laptop (102)
[05:31] <sethk> UbuntuJulez, you aren't root, so you need to use sudo.  /media/ISO doesn't exist
[05:32] <nu> i wish there was a way to login as root. to move stuff around easier
[05:32] <wheels3572> micahcowan, Linux Ubuntu Dapper 6.06
[05:32] <kevi1> can anyone help a total beginner?
[05:32] <sethk> UbuntuJulez, it may exist in /media but there is no entry in /etc/fstab.  that means you either add a line to /etc/fstab, or provide all configuration parameters on the mount command
[05:32] <lecaros> how can i get my integrated graphics' features?
[05:32] <FR500> nu there is, you shouldnt
[05:32] <FR500> kevi1: i asked for chipset
[05:32] <nu> FR500: how can i?
[05:32] <FR500> kevi1: what wireless card
[05:32] <FR500> !root
[05:32] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:32] <lecaros> i have an integrated video card
[05:32] <sethk> nu, there is, but you can get the same effect in safer ways.
[05:32] <bruenig> nu, you can do that, it is just not recommended, If you are just looking for an easy way to move files between directories with nautilus, you can do gksudo nautilus and do whatever you want with the files graphically
[05:32] <UbuntuJulez> i created a directory called /media/ISO  and then created a nautilus script to mount/unmount ISO images
[05:32] <Josh> FR500: right, started.
[05:33] <sethk> nu, if you run a file browser with sudo, that browser will have root privileges
[05:33] <micahcowan> wheels3572, what program are you using as the dhcp server?
[05:33] <UbuntuJulez> it will mount them but not unmount them
[05:33] <FR500> nu hmmm no sure maybe just set the root password, don't know why would you though
[05:33] <nu> bruenig: oooo. thanks
[05:33] <kevi1> its built in .. intel proset wireless sofware is what im trying to install
[05:33] <Josh> FR500: new icon in tray thing (is it still called systray in linux? lol)
[05:33] <nu> didnt know that
[05:33] <jared> I did apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:33] <sparkleytone> nu: there is no reason to enable root login
[05:33] <sethk> UbuntuJulez, you either have to have a line for it in /etc/fstab, or you have to provide all configuration as arguments to the mount command.
[05:33] <FR500> Josh:now right clic it and configure wireless
[05:33] <jared> and got all the way through and i got this eror E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[05:33] <sparkleytone> nu: if you absolutely MUST have a root shell, you can just sudo bash
[05:33] <UbuntuJulez> is fstab editable via text?
[05:33] <nu> FR500: to move stuff around. its late and when its late i dont get along with the term
[05:33] <wheels3572> micahcowan, I dont know what you mean lol.  I am using a Linksys wireless router that has dhcp enabled
[05:33] <jared> how do i do --fix missing?
[05:33] <micahcowan> sparkleytone, nu: or sudo -i
[05:33] <sethk> sparkleytone, su -i is probably better
[05:34] <nu> alright
[05:34] <Josh> FR500: It only talks about Wired Network (eth0, wireless is on eth1)
[05:34] <FR500> nu you can create a launcher, for root nautilus, it should be gksudo nautilus
[05:34] <bruenig> or sudo -s
[05:34] <nu> FR500: thanks. will do
[05:34] <nalioth> sethk: su is not too good   sudo -i would be better
[05:34] <edwin> irc.metachat.net
[05:34] <FR500> Josh: enable it in the network admin
[05:34] <micahcowan> do you have access to the wi router's config, say through a web interface?
[05:34] <sethk> nalioth, I said sudo -i
[05:34] <micahcowan> wheels3572, ^^
[05:34] <jared> can anyoen help me???
[05:34] <Josh> Activating interface "eth1"
[05:34] <sparkleytone> ya -i...learn something new every day
[05:34] <sethk> nalioth, I didn't say anything about su, although in fact I don't agree with the "su is terrible" party line.
[05:35] <micahcowan> sethk, (actually, you didn't, you said su by mistake)
[05:35] <FR500> Josh: now it should show there
[05:35] <FR500> right?
[05:35] <sethk> micahcowan, impossible, I never make mistakes  :)
[05:35] <kevi1> FR500 : i seem to not be able to run the autorun files ..
[05:35] <wheels3572> micahcowan, what does ^^ mean
[05:35] <UbuntuJulez> umount: /media/ISO mount disagrees with the fstab
[05:35] <UbuntuJulez> damn
[05:35] <micahcowan> :)
[05:35] <FR500> kevi1: what?
[05:35] <Josh> FR500: still activating...
[05:35] <micahcowan> it means look up a ways: I wrote you a message, but forgot to address it to you...
[05:35] <FR500> kevi1: what wireless card?
[05:35] <sparkleytone> sethk: never said it was terrible, just pointless.  there is no reason for root to have the ability to login.
[05:35] <arooni> hey folks, i want to download all associated images files in a given directory say url.com/images
[05:36] <arooni> how can i do this
[05:36] <FR500> Josh:probably looking for DHCP
[05:36] <wheels3572> micahcowan, Yes I do
[05:36] <Josh> FR500: activated, not showing in network manager
[05:36] <HackerX> ________________Does anyone know if theres a .deb for gaim-guifications-2.13beta3  ???
[05:36] <sparkleytone> arooni: man wget
[05:36] <sethk> sparkleytone, I don't agree that there is no reason.  there are situations where it makes sense.
[05:36] <FR500> Josh that is very weird
[05:36] <kevi1> fr500 : i think its built in .. im trying to load the intel proset wireless software  version 10.1.0.2
[05:36] <sparkleytone> sethk: such as?
[05:36] <Josh> FR500: I thought so too ;p
[05:36] <FR500> kevi1: you can't load windows drivers like that
[05:36] <FR500> Josh: can you right clic the tray icon
[05:36] <kevi1> fr500 : ok what can i do?
[05:36] <Josh> ye
[05:37] <FR500> Josh: enable wireless?
[05:37] <micahcowan> wheels3572, I probably can't tell you much more than to look at your router's documentation, and try to find out where it keeps logs of assigning IPs to MAC addresses (it may be fairly intuitive from the interface)
[05:37] <sethk> sparkleytone, there are two possibilities.  Either you configure sudo to allow your user to do absolutely everything, which means effectively that you are worse off than allowing su.  Or you configure sudo to be somewhat restrictive (which is what it is intended for) and then you at times need root
[05:37] <FR500> kevi1: install ndiswrapper
[05:37] <Josh> FR500: it's just Enable Networking
[05:37] <sethk> sparkleytone, at an absolute minimum, you need to be able to run visudo as root.
[05:37] <FR500> kevi1: but maybe your card is supported
[05:37] <kevi1> fr500 : ok how do i go about doing that?
[05:37] <FR500> !ndiswrapper
[05:37] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:37] <kevi1> fr500 : sorry but im really new at this
[05:37] <FR500> kevi1: read the link
[05:38] <nu> gksudo nautilus worked fine =D
[05:38] <FR500> Josh: something's broken there never had that issue
[05:38] <FR500> Josh: can you disable wep for a bit to try somethin?
[05:38] <wheels3572> micahcowan, I can tell you this I JUST turned my laptop on and it went straight to 102 and my desktop is 100 lol.  I am gonna search the logs now ty
[05:38] <sparkleytone> sethk: in terms of password cracking, tho...disabling root login is preferable, as one would have to crack both the username and the password of a user and then hope they have sudo without root
[05:38] <Josh> FR500: sure thing
[05:39] <kevi1> fr500 : thanks .. also when i click on certain links within sites that have sound features it says plugin not installed ..
[05:39] <nu> Josh: you're trying to run wireless nic?
[05:39] <Josh> nu: yes
[05:39] <HackerX> ________________Does anyone know if theres a .deb for gaim-guifications-2.13beta3  ???
[05:39] <sethk> sparkleytone, that's a red herring.  disallow root login except local.
[05:39] <FR500> nu, it is detecting wifi nets
[05:39] <FR500> with iwconfig
[05:39] <nu> Josh: i was having trouble too. i typed "iwconfig key <my wep key> and then did dhclient ath0
[05:39] <jon_> hello, can someone help me download and install skype?
[05:39] <sparkleytone> local access is insecure anyway
[05:40] <nu> FR500: yea. was happening to me too
[05:40] <sparkleytone> physical access to a machine is the ultimate rootkit
[05:40] <FR500> nu, thats no good for roaming
[05:40] <sethk> sparkleytone, yes, of course, so you are arguing against yourself.
[05:40] <Auckland_Pig> sethk: do i change /etc/rc.local for my $PATH to take effect?
[05:40] <FR500> nu does networkmanager work for ya?
[05:40] <micahcowan> sparkleytone, although... if the user had access to /etc/group (world readable), he/she wouldn't need to crack the username...
[05:40] <duckdown> Hey all.. Once I 'su' to another user and try to run screen, it keeps telling me it can't open my terminal '/dev/pts/3'    how can I fix this?
[05:40] <nu> FR500: i went through the network manager but it didnt do it all.
[05:40] <sethk> Auckland_Pig, no, because the execution path is a shell level thing.
[05:40] <bruenig> I wonder if HackerX thinks that putting _____________ in front of all of his questions makes people more likely to answer them
[05:40] <nu> Josh: make sure on the network manager, you set your default gateway to ath0
[05:41] <sparkleytone> duckdown: screen sudo username -c 'command'
[05:41] <sparkleytone> err
[05:41] <Auckland_Pig> sethk: please tell me which file i must modify....
[05:41] <jon_> how do i install skype?
[05:41] <sparkleytone> duckdown: screen sudo su username -c 'command'
[05:41] <FR500> nu weird, network manager does it all for me,be it cable, eth wifi or usb networks
[05:41] <jon_> its not on synaptic
[05:41] <Josh> nu: right
[05:41] <sparkleytone> or sudo -u
[05:41] <Tutter> evenin'
[05:41] <sethk> Auckland_Pig, I'll search for the file it is initially set in.  It will take a few minutes, so don't go away.
[05:41] <Josh> nu: ath0? I can choose eth0 and eth1
[05:41] <FR500> nu WPA, wep, whatever i throw
[05:41] <sparkleytone> wait
[05:41] <nu> FR500: maybe some chipsets work better :D
[05:41] <FR500> Josh: eth1 will do
[05:41] <Tutter> is there a newbs guide to install xgl ? ( bearing in mind the vid card in this notebook is an intel i810) ?
[05:41] <Auckland_Pig> sethk: thats really great :)
[05:41] <FR500> nu even with ndiswrapper!
[05:41] <sparkleytone> micahcowan: will sudo -i username work for that?  simulate a real login?
[05:41] <nu> Josh: when you type "iwconfig", which one is it assigned to?
[05:42] <Emon> Is the intel i810 really a 3d card
[05:42] <Emon> I mean, it says it is, but come on, is it really
[05:42] <Josh> eth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:off/any  Nickname:"Broadcom 4306" Mode:Managed  Access Point: Invalid   Bit Rate=1 Mb/s RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0 Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[05:42] <Tutter> Emon *shrug*
[05:42] <duckdown> sparkleytone> I'll try that, thanks alot :)
[05:42] <nu> FR500: i used to install ndiswrapper. i like it. the problem is i had to do it everytime i logged on (in suse)
[05:42] <Tutter> Emon I;'ll let ya know how it works once I get Xgl on here
[05:42] <FR500> nu if there are native drivers you shouldnt
[05:42] <nocarrier> anyone available to test out my Jabber server?
[05:43] <FR500> Josh: try iwconfig eth1 essid "your app ssid)
[05:43] <sparkleytone> nocarrier: i can IM you
[05:43] <nu> FR500: isnt it iwconfig eth1 essid AP  (access point)?
[05:43] <sparkleytone> nocarrier: what server you using?
[05:43] <jared> hey guys i ran dist-upgrade and got all the way through and got the error E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[05:43] <jared>  what is the syntax for --fix missing
[05:43] <Josh> FR500: done
[05:43] <jon_> can someone help me install skype?
[05:43] <nocarrier> sparkleytone: heh... i have my own... that is what I need testing
[05:44] <FR500> nu you need your ssid, ap name not always the same as ssid
[05:44] <nu> Josh: got it working?
[05:44] <sparkleytone> nocarrier: i get that...i was saying i can IM you on your server
[05:44] <FR500> Josh: now what ap does it say?
[05:44] <Josh> nu: don't know
[05:44] <thundr> Emon, Even with a 3.0 ghz and a gig of ram, call of duty ran awful on my computer until I put in an old geforce 2.
[05:44] <jared> jon_, you can run sudo apt-get install skype in terminal and it will do it all for you
[05:44] <sparkleytone> nocarrier: what server you using...as in what jabber daemon?
[05:44] <Josh> eth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:off/any  Nickname:"Broadcom 4306" Mode:Managed  Access Point: Invalid   Bit Rate=1 Mb/s RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0 Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[05:44] <jared> make sure you have j2re1.5 installed first
[05:44] <nocarrier> sparkleytone: jabber
[05:44] <bruenig> jared, it appears to say run apt-get --fix-missing, i might be misreadin git though
[05:44] <FR500> Josh: you had to do that commands as sudo
[05:44] <Josh> I did
[05:44] <FR500> weird
[05:44] <sparkleytone> nocarrier: any particular reason you aren't using wildfire?
[05:44] <Josh> the SSID changed ;)
[05:44] <thundr> jon_, I think you can just go to skype.com and get the .deb file
[05:44] <nu> ok
[05:45] <Emon> thundr, eh? if you're saying that onboard intel video sucks hard, I already know that :P
[05:45] <nocarrier> sparkleytone: nocarrier@tampalinux.org
[05:45] <nu> Josh
[05:45] <Guitarhero11> Anyone know why the camera in planet penguin racer would pan around to face the face of the penguin at the beginning of each race?
[05:45] <Josh> nu
[05:45] <FR500> without wep now?
[05:45] <sethk> Auckland_Pig, I'm going to be away from my machine for a few minutes.  That search is running and I'll be back after I walk the dog.
[05:45] <nocarrier> sparkleytone: no, just trying it out... i was bored
[05:45] <thundr> Emon, that's what I"m saying :)
[05:45] <Emon> ah ok
[05:45] <sethk> Guitarhero11, it's got a thing for penguins?
[05:45] <Auckland_Pig> sethk: sure.... :)
[05:45] <sparkleytone> nocarrier: did you get that?
[05:45] <Guitarhero11> haha could be
[05:45] <Josh> wep has just been disabled ;)
[05:45] <nu> do this: iwlist eth1 scanning
[05:45] <FR500> Josh:  now type dhclient
[05:45] <nu> and see which access point it finds. then go to the network manager and write that access point in there
[05:45] <FR500> if the ap changed
[05:46] <sparkleytone> nocarrier: www.jivesoftware.org ... check out wildfire.  it makes all other OSS jabber daemons look like crap
[05:46] <Tutter> will opensuse xgl install work in ubuntu?
[05:46] <nu> Josh: yea, do what fr said first
[05:46] <nocarrier> sparkleytone: nope... didn't get it..
[05:46] <Josh> SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory
[05:46] <Josh> SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory
[05:46] <Josh> Listening on LPF/eth1/00:90:4b:a2:f2:57
[05:46] <Josh> Sending on   LPF/eth1/00:90:4b:a2:f2:57
[05:46] <Josh> Listening on LPF/eth0/00:c0:9f:7c:19:77
[05:46] <Josh> Sending on   LPF/eth0/00:c0:9f:7c:19:77
[05:46] <Josh> Sending on   Socket/fallback
[05:46] <Josh> receive_packet failed on eth1: Network is down
[05:46] <MadHatter_> is there a way to enable vncserver to start on boot
[05:46] <Josh> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 8
[05:46] <MadHatter_> ?
[05:46] <FR500> Josh: dont paste here
[05:46] <nocarrier> sparkleytone: netstat only shows two ports open
[05:46] <Josh> DHCPOFFER from 192.168.1.1
[05:46] <Josh> DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
[05:46] <sparkleytone> nocarrier: how about that one?
[05:46] <nu> lol
[05:46] <Josh> DHCPACK from 192.168.1.1
[05:46] <nu> josh
[05:46] <nocarrier> sparkleytone: nope...
[05:46] <thundr> Josh, we've got a pastebin for a reason
[05:46] <sparkleytone> nocarrier: i had .com before...my bust
[05:46] <Josh> sorry :P
[05:46] <nu> josh
[05:46] <ninjapeppery> lol josh ;p
[05:46] <sparkleytone> nocarrier: you need 5269 open for S2S
[05:47] <nu> when you type iwconfig, is your nic assigned to ath0 or eth0?
[05:47] <FR500> Josh: can you give me vnc access to aid ?
[05:47] <thundr> Josh, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is the address
[05:47] <FR500> nu ath0 is just for atheros cards
[05:47] <nocarrier> sparkleytone: i have 5269 open...
[05:47] <Josh> nu: eth1
[05:47] <nocarrier> sparkleytone: ah... i know
[05:47] <nu> FR500: is he not using atheros/
[05:47] <nu> FR500: ok guess not lol
[05:47] <Josh> FR500: i'd need a vnc server ;)
[05:47] <FR500> yup
[05:47] <Emon> Why does installing sun-java5-jdk require x11-common :S
[05:47] <nocarrier> sparkleytone: I just added the DNS record about 10 minutes ago ;)
[05:47] <nu> Josh: type: iwlist eth1 scanning
[05:47] <FR500> Josh you probably have one already
[05:47] <sparkleytone> nocarrier: dig tampalinux.org returns nothing
[05:48] <FR500> nu network-admin does support atheros well
[05:48] <Josh> eth1      No scan results
[05:48] <sparkleytone> nocarrier: pinging it returns multiple ips
[05:48] <MadHatter_> is there a way to start vncserver on boot, so i can login remotely?
[05:48] <HackerX> Im trying to install gaim-guifications but i keep getting the error "No package 'gaim' found" but i have gaim installed any ideas???
[05:48] <HackerX> i have the src
[05:48] <sparkleytone> nocarrier: you might want to set up a dns A record first ;)
[05:48] <nu> FR500: then i don't know what happened lol =(
[05:48] <nocarrier> sparkleytone: i did...
[05:48] <nocarrier> sparkleytone: about 10 minutes ago
[05:48] <FR500> can anyone with a gmail account try to use pop with evolution mail?
[05:48] <nocarrier> sparkleytone: gotta wait
[05:48] <nu> FR500: ubuntu didn't detect his NIC at all.
[05:48] <abhinay> i got a problem with 'gnome-settings-daemon',  saying  -   "problem with Bonobo, or a non-GNOME (e.g. KDE) settings manager may already be active and conflicting with the GNOME settings manager" Any Suggestions ?
[05:49] <sparkleytone> nocarrier: ya...looks like you don't use your own dns, so you'll prob have to wait a while
[05:49] <nu> FR500: i dont think
[05:49] <yoshiznit123> hi everyone, if I have two computers with Ubuntu, can I get a list of packages that are on one but not the other (a 'diff')?
[05:49] <FR500> nu weird, it works since warty for me
[05:49] <nu> Josh: type ifconfig eth1 up
[05:49] <nocarrier> sparkleytone: i do run my own...
[05:50] <FR500> Josh: what about ssh access?
[05:50] <Josh> SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory
[05:50] <FR500> Josh: a temporary pass if you want
[05:50] <nu> Josh: you got that when you did ifconfig eth1 up?
[05:50] <sparkleytone> nocarrier: then we're waiting for your NS records to take effect?
[05:50] <Josh> FR500: I'd rather do VNC if you fond me a server
[05:50] <Josh> nu: yes
[05:50] <Josh> *found
[05:50] <jon_> how do i install skype?
[05:50] <FR500> Josh: i dont know xfce
[05:50] <nocarrier> sparkleytone: strange, I can dig from work to here, and it resolves
[05:50] <Josh> jon_: www.skype.com
[05:50] <jon_> can i use rpm on ubuntu?
[05:51] <thundr> yoshiznit123, can you sort by installed packages in synaptic and export that list, and do the same with the other computer then run diff or whatever the compare command is?
[05:51] <avis> FR500 xfce is very simple
[05:51] <nocarrier> sparkleytone: but it won't ping
[05:51] <hyperstream_> sorry if you guys got this before i d/c:
[05:51] <hyperstream_> hello, ive just installed a new wireless adapter. and used ndiswrapper to install the windows INF, install correctly iwconfig shows ra0 etc.. i using the gnome manager and trying to enable wep, (key being on the router: 123ABC1233 (64bit)) any ideas to why it wont assign a ip4 ipaddress etc, this is also happening on a windows server im trying to use a wireless card. yet my fathers laptop will connect fine to what ever typ
[05:51] <hyperstream_> e of encryption i use: open wep, shared wep, wpa-psk etc etc. it will work is i have it OPEN with no encrytion(both ubuntu and my sisters windows box)
[05:51] <jon_> which one should i get? the debian package?
[05:51] <FR500> avis how do i set up vnc there?
[05:51] <nocarrier> sparkleytone: oops
[05:51] <yoshiznit123> thundr, yea how do i get that package list though?
[05:51] <avis> thundr, good thinking.
[05:51] <jon_> and after i dl it, how do i actually install it?
[05:51] <nocarrier> sparkleytone: LOL... didn't turn on ICMP!
[05:51] <nu> Josh: then i have no idea lol =(
[05:51] <MadHatter_> hey guys, is there any way to add vnc to a file so that it starts up upon boot???
[05:51] <Josh> nu :(
[05:51] <sparkleytone> nocarrier: ahhh 'oops'...the sweet sound of BIND ;)
[05:51] <ninjapeppery> ;\
[05:51] <FR500> hyperstream probably dhcp is disable
[05:52] <hyperstream_> it cant be if my dads laptop is being assigned a ip address
[05:52] <thundr> yoshiznit123, I'll look it up, it's in the menus
[05:52] <hyperstream_> its enabled on the router.
[05:52] <nocarrier> sparkleytone: now it pings... didn't have a rule in ipt
[05:52] <thundr> yoshiznit123, open synaptic, under the status button click installed, then export the list
[05:53] <FR500> Josh: maybe there is vnc server already, probably you just have to enagle it
[05:53] <thundr> yoshiznit123, in dapper, the export command's under file, save markings as...
[05:53] <CVirus> what should be the path of PYTHONDOCS variable in Ubuntu ?
[05:53] <Josh> FR500: i'll look at ubuntuguide.org
[05:53] <FR500> Josh: in gnome there is a remote desktop thingy
[05:53] <FR500> lately, i can't seem to be able to use my gmail account with evolution, does anyone have the same problem?
[05:54] <jon_> how do i get to desktop on the terminal?
[05:54] <Josh> ah yes
[05:54] <FR500> Josh: you need to forward ports on the router
[05:54] <Josh> FR500: I know, I run a home web server
[05:54] <FR500> kk
[05:55] <DarkElf109> Does anypne know if there's an easy way to have multiple vimrc's, and switch between them easily?
[05:55] <DarkElf109> anyone*
[05:55] <MAssacration> good night everyone out there
[05:55] <jon_> how do i get to desktop on terminal?
[05:56] <HackerX> Can Someone walk me threw installing  gaim-guifications because i keep runing into problems
[05:56] <FR500> hello MAssacration
[05:56] <wheels3572> Can someone help me I really screwed things up here lol
[05:56] <hyperstream_> hmm how do i go about restricting my open network to mac addresses?
[05:56] <DarkElf109> HackerX: sudo apt-get install gaim-guifications ?
[05:57] <FR500> hyperstream_: what? that is all router setup
[05:57] <wheels3572> I have 1 machine reading 192.168.1.100 and the other reading 192.168.2.100 and I CANT access my router page :(
[05:57] <DarkElf109> wheels3572: Reading?
[05:57] <FR500> 1.100 and 2.100 are in different subnets
[05:57] <MAssacration> hey <wheels3572> add the debuntu repository
[05:57] <hyperstream_> yes. how would i go about it
[05:57] <FR500> Josh: ip add?
[05:58] <hyperstream_> since the router isnt allowing more than 1 computer to connect to it when wep/wpa enabled.
[05:58] <Josh> FR500: hang on :P
[05:58] <wheels3572> FR500, Now do I find out the address of my router?
[05:58] <bricktop> SKYPE is really choppy
[05:58] <bricktop> .
[05:58] <FR500> wheels3572: are you connected to internet through that router?
[05:58] <bricktop> anyone else experiece this?
[05:58] <wheels3572> MAssacration, Im new here I will need more info for that
[05:58] <wheels3572> Yes
[05:58] <wheels3572> FR500, Yes I am
[05:58] <wheels3572> FR500, I did ifconfig
[05:58] <MAssacration> ok here it goes
[05:58] <FR500> then type "ip route" the ip address on default gateway is it
[05:59] <wheels3572> FR500, that's it DUHHHH me ty FR500  :)
[05:59] <Emon> Could someone explain to my why the sun-java5-jdk package requires "laptop-detect," "libx11-6" and "x11-common"
[05:59] <ubuntu> ...
[05:59] <MAssacration> this page teaches u how to add this rep http://repository.debuntu.org/
[05:59] <mokomull> I'm having difficulty figuring out how to get my new Ubuntu system to find linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-386
[06:00] <DarkElf109> mokomull: Do you have universe and multiverse repositories enabled?
[06:00] <mokomull> It upgraded the kernel for me, but then the atheros driver went missing... and that's why.  Can't find the linux-restricted-modules properly
[06:00] <mokomull> DarkElf109: I think so
[06:00] <DarkElf109> mokomull: From the console, run apt-get update, then try again
[06:01] <DarkElf109> 'Cause I can see the package from here
[06:01] <mokomull> DarkElf109: Hmm...
[06:01] <Tsukino> Hey guys, I'm having a couple unrelated problems at the moment =/
[06:01] <mokomull> DarkElf109: care to pastebin your sources.list?
[06:01] <DarkElf109> mokomull: If all else fails, you can just download the package from here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/misc/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-386 , then use dpkg -i to install it
[06:02] <FR500> mokomull: just boot to a previous kernel image
[06:02] <DarkElf109> !tell mokomull about source-o-matic
[06:02] <mokomull> DarkElf109: I'm installing the system for someone else, and I don't want to have to make them do this every update
[06:02] <wheels3572> I did iproute
[06:02] <wheels3572> What specifically am I looking for
[06:02] <DarkElf109> mokomull: Ah. It SHOULD show up. Which is odd. Go through the source-o-matic, and just use the sources.list that it generates
[06:03] <FR500> wheels3572: the ip after the word via
[06:03] <wheels3572> FR500, thats' what I been TRYING to do lol and it's NOT leting me
[06:03] <Josh> FR500: hmm
[06:03] <wheels3572> 192.168.1.1
[06:03] <Auckland_Pig> sethk: i'm trying editing .bashrc , will logout and login and come back here....
[06:03] <FR500> wheels3572: hmmm broken router=
[06:03] <FR500> Josh: ?
[06:03] <Tsukino> My laptop's getting a fair bit warmer idling than it does in Windows. I do cat /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/info and it'd saying that throttling is off, how do I enable that?
[06:04] <wheels3572> FR500, I JUST did a change in the router and it told me to release/renew the dhcp and it woudln't le me
[06:04] <Josh> vncserver: couldn't find "Xvnc" on your PATH.
[06:04] <wheels3572> so if it's broke it just broke now
[06:04] <mokomull> DarkElf109: I did the source-o-matic, and it works great.  Thanks.  I don't know what I screwed up, but it works now...
[06:04] <FR500> wheels3572: what kind of change?
[06:04] <FR500> Josh: no clue
[06:05] <mokomull> (and just so you don't think I'm a total idiot, I've been using Debian for ages.  I just do stupid things from time to time.  Thanks.)
[06:05] <Cigarette> can anyone help me out? i'm having a bit of a problem with "make install"...
[06:05] <DarkElf109> mokomull: Probably just a missing repository somewhere. Glad I could help
[06:05] <wheels3572> I went from 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.2.1
[06:05] <DarkElf109> mokomull: I deleted 5 years worth of email in a single command once. Don't worry about it =P
[06:05] <Josh> FR500: can we do this some other way
[06:05] <Josh> ?
[06:06] <FR500> Josh: hmmm ssh, but you dont want that
[06:06] <Josh> hmm.
[06:06] <orbin> Cigarette: and that problem'd be?
[06:06] <HackerX> ok, the apt-get gaim-guification is to old i need the beta3 version i have to beta3 src. but i cant install it says" no gaim package found" and its really starting to annoy me Does anyone know what i can do????????
[06:07] <mokomull> A
[06:07] <Cigarette> every time i do a make install i get  "Can't find kernel build files /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build
[06:07] <FR500> arghh!!!!
[06:07] <orbin> Cigarette: what are you installing?
[06:07] <DarkElf109> HackerX: apt-cache search gaim-dev
[06:07] <Geoffrey2> one of these days I need to do a little studying on the linux file system structure, if I could make heads or tails out of what all the various main directories were and there purpose, I could probably at least guess at where I'd find a particular file located
[06:07] <FR500> anyone witha gmail account, help!!!
[06:07] <Cigarette> ndiswrapper
[06:07] <Josh> well
[06:07] <Cigarette> version 1.22
[06:08] <Josh> I guess i'll have to settle :(
[06:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Cigarette: Do you need to install build-essentials
[06:08] <DarkElf109> Cigarette: apt-cache search linux-headers
[06:08] <Cigarette> i did
[06:08] <Hoxzer> If I want to have a flash support in mozilla should it be easily done by apt-get flash-nonfree and then pops up the window -> I tick they sentences saying about flashinstall
[06:08] <FR500> Geoffrey "locate  filename"
[06:08] <jason> ok why does my screen stay lit but black after returning from acpi sleep?
[06:08] <Hoxzer> should it be easily installed by doing that?
[06:08] <HackerX> DarkElf109, ok now what???
[06:08] <orbin> Geoffrey2: google it: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/linuxdir.html
[06:08] <FR500> Josh: nahh it's pretty weird
[06:08] <Josh> FR500: indeed
[06:08] <DarkElf109> jason: Sleep is inherently buggy and operates on a fine balance of black and white magic
[06:08] <HackerX> 
[06:08] <FR500> if you want ssh, i can log the commandos for you
[06:08] <Cigarette> i already got the build-essential stuff
[06:08] <orbin> jason: what video card and what driver?
[06:09] <Geoffrey2> FR500, that's great if I know the filename
[06:09] <jason> orbin, what command do I type to determine that?
[06:09] <DarkElf109> jason: It could be because of drivers, running programs, hardware problems, or any combination of the aforementioned
[06:09] <FR500> Josh ot you could vnc me, and watch me do that via ssh
[06:09] <jason> it's a Lenovo C100, and I can't find any info on google
[06:09] <orbin> Geoffrey2: what are you looking for?
[06:09] <bmrtin> does ubuntu have a repair tool like suse does
[06:09] <Josh> FR500: i guess so.
[06:09] <jason> the next challenge is going to be getting the wifi to work
[06:10] <DarkElf109> jason: lspci | grep VGA
[06:10] <Josh> FR500: ssh is installed and running ;(
[06:10] <bricktop> have you used skype to make international calls? is it choppy for  you also
[06:10] <bricktop> .
[06:10] <FreeLanced> hello
[06:10] <bricktop> .
[06:10] <bricktop> .
[06:10] <Josh> *;)
[06:10] <sethk> Auckland_Pig, still here?
[06:10] <Auckland_Pig> sethk: thaks sethk, managed to get path recognized in gnome
[06:10] <Auckland_Pig> :)
[06:10] <jason> DarkElf109 & orbin : 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 04)
[06:10] <HackerX> DarkElf109, ok now what???
[06:11] <Auckland_Pig> edited .bashrc
[06:11] <sethk> Auckland_Pig, right, I had suggested sourcing .bash_profile in .bashrc
[06:11] <sethk> Auckland_Pig, I believe the "correct" place to do it is /etc/profile
[06:11] <orbin> jason: now do this to determine the driver: grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf | tail -1
[06:11] <Josh> FR500: #testchannel
[06:11] <DarkElf109> jason: In all honesty, I have a lot of trouble trying to get sleep/hibernate working on my own machine, and it's a 50/50 sort of thing when it does work, so, I'm not sure I can help you
[06:12] <nekostar> mmm
[06:12] <Auckland_Pig> sethk: i am playing with linux... not sure whats supposed to be where :D
[06:12] <jason> driver is i810
[06:12] <nekostar> hey how far off from current is xine?
[06:12] <nekostar> also vlc
[06:12] <wheels3572> !java > wheels3572
[06:12] <nekostar> in dapper
[06:12] <jason> I haven't tried hibernate yet
[06:12] <FreeLanced> Auckland bro u a kiwi?
[06:12] <Josh> FreeLanced: I am ;)
[06:12] <jon_> in ubuntu, how do i add something to my sources.list file?
[06:12] <jason> I just installed dapper on my friend's machine, trying to convert him to Linux
[06:13] <FR500> Josh: then vnc me
[06:13] <orbin> jason: maybe try the vesa driver.
[06:13] <FreeLanced> what part of NZ?
[06:13] <FreeLanced> I'm in palmerston North
[06:13] <jason> orbin, just change i810 to vesa in xorg.conf?
[06:13] <poddo> anyone reccomend a driver for a nvidia riva 128?
[06:13] <orbin> jason: yes, then restart X
[06:13] <tocool4u> Josh: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:13] <Josh> FR500: How? Can we talk in #testchannel ?:)
[06:13] <FR500> Josh: ok
[06:13] <Josh> FreeLanced: Auckland
[06:14] <FreeLanced> Jaffa sup bro?
[06:14] <Josh> tocool4u: I have
[06:14] <Auckland_Pig> sethk: the script runs properly from the command line.... but when i try Alt + F2 it gives the error "Could not open location 'file:///script01"
[06:14] <jason> thanks orbin, I'll give it a shot
[06:14] <sethk> Auckland_Pig, is the script named script01?
[06:14] <Geoffrey2> orbin, lesse...how about the repo source file?
[06:14] <sethk> Auckland_Pig, and is it in /?
[06:14] <orbin> Geoffrey2: /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:15] <bow> hello ,every body, i install ubuntu lts in ibm r50, but 30 times after reboot, it remind me I have to run fsck to check my disk, can any body help me ?
[06:15] <Cigarette> Jack-Sparrow: i have the build-essentials but i still get the error
[06:15] <Cigarette> any ideas?
[06:15] <aujordanh> what is best program for cd --> mp3, or how do i get sound juicer to support mp3?
[06:15] <lecaros> !ping
[06:15] <ubotu> pong
[06:15] <bow> Is it a ubuntu bug?
[06:15] <FreeLanced> good to see kiwi's using open source bro
[06:15] <lecaros> !xgl
[06:15] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:15] <wheels3572> FR500, I figured it out :)
[06:15] <Auckland_Pig> sethk: it is called script01... and it is in ~/bin
[06:15] <wheels3572> I had to access it from the working pc :)
[06:15] <orbin> aujordanh: i love grip
[06:15] <yoshiznit123> bow, thats normal to have to check the filesystem just in case. if you want to change it, use tune2fs
[06:16] <tocool4u> I like metasploit
[06:16] <lnxguit> aujordanh, check out grip
[06:16] <aujordanh> !info grip
[06:16] <ubotu> grip: GNOME-based CD-player/ripper/encoder. In repository universe, is optional. Version 3.3.1-4 (dapper), package size 440 kB, installed size 1268 kB
[06:16] <Geoffrey2> orbin, is etc short for anything?
[06:16] <aujordanh> thanks
[06:16] <sethk> Auckland_Pig, file:///script01 should be in /.  Try creating a symbolic link:   cd /;  ln -s /bin/script01
[06:16] <sethk> Auckland_Pig, that is, cd to /, then do ln -s /bin/script01
[06:16] <bow> ok, thanks you <yoshiznit123>
[06:17] <orbin> Geoffrey2: etcetera? not sure ... but most of the config files are in there
[06:17] <Auckland_Pig> sethk: will do that now...
[06:17] <sethk> Auckland_Pig, that might not be the final solution, but it will be an interesting data point.
[06:17] <FreeLanced> what is a similar website to distrowatch?
[06:17] <orbin> Geoffrey2: like i said, check out: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/linuxdir.html
[06:17] <tocool4u> !info Ubuntu
[06:17] <ubotu> Package Ubuntu does not exist in dapper
[06:17] <Auckland_Pig> sethk: yup
[06:18] <Geoffrey2> orbin, etcetera...that's what I thought of when I saw the name...I see from that html you pointed me to that it's for config files
[06:18] <sethk> Auckland_Pig, ok.  now, how is the script executed?  Not from the command line, the case where it complains about file:///script01 does not exist  ?
[06:18] <tocool4u> !info ndiswrapper
[06:18] <ubotu> Package ndiswrapper does not exist in dapper
[06:18] <tocool4u> WT
[06:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !ndiswrapper
[06:18] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:19] <jason> still a blank screen with the vesa driver
[06:19] <alienseer23> hello, I am back and need the name of a good linux partitioning tool
[06:19] <jason> blank, black, lit screen after waking
[06:19] <Jack_Sparrow> qtparted
[06:19] <alienseer23> ok
[06:19] <lnxguit> alienseer see gparted
[06:19] <Auckland_Pig> sethk: after pressing Alt + F2... there is a small dialog box... Run application... i'm trying to run it from there
[06:19] <nekostar> shit
[06:19] <nekostar> anyone know anything about x264?????
[06:19] <jason> any other ideas?
[06:19] <alienseer23> gpartes is good, but didn't seem to help
[06:20] <sethk> Auckland_Pig, ok.  you can enter the full path, as in   /bin/script01  (or was it /usr/bin/script01?)
[06:20] <lnxguit> alienseer, I also like cfdisk
[06:20] <Auckland_Pig> sethk: when i enter the full path... it executes fine....
[06:20] <Geoffrey2> beyond the repos maintained on the ubuntu.com servers, are there any repos out there worth adding...I already have the wine repository included
[06:20] <orbin> jason: what computer model again?
[06:20] <alienseer23> I have having a problem getting a logical ntfs to go to fat32
[06:21] <Auckland_Pig> sethk: but isn't it supposed to execute even without full path.... given that the $PATH is set properly....
[06:21] <jason> orbin: lenovo c100
[06:21] <sethk> Auckland_Pig, did you create the file /bin/script after you started the desktop?
[06:21] <sethk> Auckland_Pig, because what happens is that the contents of the directories in PATH are cached
[06:21] <Jack_Sparrow> alienseer23: I take it you are trying not to delete your xp install while converting ntfs to fat32?
[06:21] <farous> hi i am thinking of buying a comstar 250 3.5" external hard drive and was wondering how well supported it is on ubuntu? if any used comstar i would appreciate their feedback for the company is totally new to me
[06:21] <lnxguit> Delete the partition & recreate it as fat32
[06:21] <alienseer23> jack, yes :D
[06:22] <alienseer23> I have 5 partitions
[06:22] <poddo> what driver should i use with my nvidia rive tnt 128?
[06:22] <poddo> *riva
[06:22] <alienseer23> one for linux file system and one for xp, no issues there
[06:22] <Jack_Sparrow> alienseer23: I thought linux would only see 4
[06:22] <orbin> jason: tried suspend2?
[06:22] <alienseer23> really?
[06:22] <Emon> uhhhh
[06:22] <sethk> Auckland_Pig, within a shell, you can do:   hash -r    which tells the shell to recreate the hash.  Starting a new shell recreates the hash.  The desktop is run by a shell and there is no good way to tell that shell to rehash.
[06:22] <Emon> why can I run init scripts as non root
[06:22] <jason> orbin: what's the procedure for enabling suspend2?
[06:22] <lnxguit> only 4 primary, but many logical
[06:22] <Auckland_Pig> sethk: ok...
[06:22] <sethk> Auckland_Pig, if that's what's happening, then the file would be found after rebooting.
[06:22] <Jack_Sparrow> alienseer23: DOuble check with someone but I did see that somewhere..
[06:22] <alienseer23> it was working fine reading them before I tried to convert from ntfs for the next 2 partitions?
[06:23] <HackerX> What source do i need to get Gaim-dev i have all them checked and still says i need anothing one but doesnt say what one
[06:23] <sethk> Auckland_Pig, that's why I asked whether script01 was created after the desktop was started.
[06:23] <Auckland_Pig> sethk: oh yes...
[06:23] <alienseer23> h'mmm
[06:23] <alienseer23> I will continue
[06:23] <alienseer23> gonna check out qparted
[06:23] <maxkelley> poddo: nvidia-legacy is what you need to download from synaptic.
[06:23] <sethk> Auckland_Pig, also, update PATH in /etc/profile
[06:23] <Geoffrey2> wouldn't the easiest method be to ghost (or otherwise backup) the partition, reformat it as FAT32, and then just restore the backup?
[06:23] <lnxguit> it's nice, very straightforward
[06:23] <Jack_Sparrow> qtparted
[06:24] <orbin> jason: maybe start here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221088
[06:24] <poddo> from synaptic?  im new to linux in general, cn i get a little more specific advice?
[06:24] <alienseer23> yes, qt :)
[06:24] <poddo> like, apt-get install nvidia-legacy?
[06:24] <sethk> Auckland_Pig, because the desktop is started by root, and the path in /root/.bashrc and /root/.bash_profile have not been edited by you, I believe.
[06:24] <Auckland_Pig> sethk: no...
[06:24] <HackerX> What source do i need to get Gaim-dev i have all them checked and still says i need anothing one but doesnt say what one
[06:24] <sethk> Auckland_Pig, the PATH is at the very beginning of /etc/profile
[06:25] <Adam_G> erm, I'm in a bit of an issue. I seem to have both /dev/sda5 and /dev/sda1 mounted as /home? /dev/sda1 is set as /home in fstab, but sudo mount -a doesn't seem to help (/dev/sda5 isn't in fstab at all). sudo umount /dev/sda5 fails with a device is busy...
[06:25] <sethk> Auckland_Pig,there is a test for user id == 0.  user id == 0 means root.  So you'll see a path for root and then a path for the rest of the world.
[06:25] <maxkelley> poddo: errr, that's not the exact name.. go into synaptic, click "search", type nvidia-legacy
[06:25] <sethk> Auckland_Pig, changing the path in /etc/profile should carry through to all shells
[06:25] <davegoodson> hi, when i play videos on movie player, the sound is slow and out of sync. How do i fix this?
[06:25] <poddo> maxkelly, thanks
[06:26] <sethk> Auckland_Pig, we know it's a path issue because you can run it by entering the full path.
[06:26] <Cigarette> davegoodson, could it be the video?
[06:26] <davegoodson> no
[06:26] <Adam_G> eh, maybe a restart will fix it... or break it entirely ;)
[06:26] <ferrouswheel> Hi all, as anyone had experience installing mldonkey-server?
[06:26] <Cigarette> hmm... then i dont know.
[06:26] <davegoodson> it worked before
[06:26] <davegoodson> untill i installed mplayer..
[06:26] <BenrightB4> hey all.. i hate to ask this question on here, i know i am in the wrong spot for it... but i have two computers, this one on ubuntu, and the other one wich is a windows system... does anybody know how to stop things from automatically coming on when the computer starts... i used to know, but its been a while since i have used it
[06:27] <davegoodson> oh never mind im going to restart from scratch
[06:27] <tocool4u> What do you mean ...like start up program?
[06:27] <Cigarette> ok
[06:27] <Cigarette> good luck
[06:27] <davegoodson> thanks ;0
[06:27] <jason> thanks orbin I'm installing a new kernel now
[06:27] <BenrightB4> yeah the programs that automatically start, like aim and msn and stuff on windows
[06:28] <tocool4u> Right click my cmputer
[06:28] <sethk> BenrightB4, there's a startup folder
[06:28] <jason> anyone with ideas on getting this wifi card working?
[06:28] <tocool4u> yea but just for some programs
[06:28] <Cigarette> jason, i'm trying to get mine working too man... let me know how you get yours done hahaha
[06:28] <avis> BenrightB4, if i'm not mistaken there is a msconfig for windows xp as well.  msconfig.exe
[06:28] <sethk> BenrightB4, xp also has services.  you can start the service manager and change the status to manual
[06:29] <jason> Cigarette, apparently it works with ndiswrapper
[06:29] <BenrightB4> oh yeah, thanks a lot
[06:29] <jason> I'm just unsure of what to do with ndiswrapper
[06:29] <avis> at first i thought he was talking about ubuntu then went hmm.  :)
[06:29] <Cigarette> jason, mine doesn... i havent been able to get ndiswrapper built from the source yet.... i think my installation is broken
[06:30] <jason> how do I determine which wifi card I have?
[06:30] <nateman1352> hi all, I just updated my 6.06 dapper system, after which it hangs at "Waiting for root filesystem" and won't boot, after a while it drops to a simple shell, I was able to get it to boot my doing a modprobe ide-disk, but it gave some udev errors and it appears that none of my other hardware had its driver modules loaded (USB, Network...,) any ideas how to fix this?  Maybe reinstall udev?
[06:30] <jason> isn't ndiswrapper just a package?
[06:30] <Cigarette> yes
[06:30] <Cigarette> use lspci
[06:30] <Cigarette> lspci -n i think
[06:30] <Distrowatched> Yo, got Ham?
[06:30] <tocool4u> is thier vhost on this network
[06:31] <Cigarette> lspci to get the big number and then match it to the small one (xxxx:xxxx)
[06:31] <Cigarette> the small one is from lspci - n
[06:31] <ryan_naruto> how can i share files in both linux machines??
[06:31] <Cigarette> then match the small number to the ndiswrapper list
[06:31] <ryan_naruto> my desktop is xubuntu
[06:32] <Auckland_Pig> sethk: thanks for the help
[06:32] <arooni> folks does anyone know how to get wget to get *all* images for a certain file... you see i only et some files when i do wget
[06:32] <lnxguit> ryan_naruto, have you tried nfs
[06:32] <sethk> Auckland_Pig, np, hope it works for you
[06:32] <jason> anyone know how to enable touchpad scrolling in xorg.conf without the synaptics driver?
[06:32] <avis> samba and i think its easier done in xubuntu than it is in ubuntu xubuntu seems to have a program that makes sharing files over the lan easy.  i'm sure you still need the samba package though
[06:32] <HackerX_> ok im am extremely irritated right now can someone P L E A S E tell me how to gaim-dev every time i try to get it says i need another source..........
[06:32] <Flannel> HackerX_: you try apt-getting the build-deps?
[06:33] <HackerX_> Flannel, What exactly do you mean
[06:33] <HackerX_> ?
[06:33] <shawnr_> ugg, i followed a howto (used a pre made script) to intall firefox32/flsh/java/mplayer. no thing worked. and now i can't see to find where to uninstall java/mplayer-mozilla/flash. can anyone help me clean up this mess?
[06:33] <digitalpenguin> hello all
[06:33] <Flannel> HackerX_: apt-get build-dep
[06:34] <tocool4u> !info dep
[06:34] <ubotu> Package dep does not exist in dapper
[06:34] <tocool4u> !dep
[06:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about dep - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:34] <poddo> maxkelly, when i ran the nvidia-glx-config enable, to turn on the driver, i get: Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[06:34] <Flannel> tocool4u: what are you looking for?
[06:35] <nateman1352> hi all, I just updated my 6.06 dapper system, after which it hangs at "Waiting for root filesystem" and won't boot, after a while it drops to a simple shell, I was able to get it to boot my doing a modprobe ide-disk, but it gave some udev errors and it appears that none of my other hardware had its driver modules loaded (USB, Network...,) any ideas how to fix this?  Maybe reinstall udev?
[06:36] <avis> poddo type cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep nvidia  if driver is nvidia instead of nv, all is well, else edit and change nv to nvidia
[06:36] <ryan_naruto> how do i install nfs?? is it the same with nfs-common????
[06:36] <avis> once its nvidia, restart X
[06:36] <poddo> ok, thanks.  should it be nvidia or nvidia-legacy
[06:37] <shawnr_> can anyone please help me fix my mess
[06:37] <Cigarette> can someon PM me and help me out with this whole "make install" stuff?
[06:37] <shawnr_> before i get drastic and format my drive lol
[06:37] <linux_user400354> sudo sed -i 's/id:5:initdefault:/id:6:initdefault:/' /etc/inittab && sudo reboot
[06:37] <Jack_Sparrow> poddo probably legacy but check the list of cards
[06:37] <avis> do you have a legacy card or nvidia card ?  i'm not sure -- i'd refer to the ubuntu documentation for either legacy or conmon nvidia cards.
[06:37] <linux_user400354> that command works great in ubuntu
[06:37] <arooni> can someone help me use wget to get all files at a given url?  i don't get all files, i just get some
[06:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati > poddo
[06:37] <linux_user400354> if you havent done it already, you should!!!
[06:37] <Cigarette> i really want to like linux.... but its really hard to do when i cant get it to work hahaha
[06:37] <lnxguit> ryan_naruto, check out http://nfs.sourceforge.net/nfs-howto/
[06:38] <lnxguit> it's really quite simple
[06:38] <Flannel> Cigarette: why are you compiling ubuntu?
[06:38] <poddo> it a riva tnt2, so it should be legacy, i looked into that
[06:38] <Flannel> Cigarette: err, what are you trying to compile, and why?
[06:38] <Cigarette> ndiswrapper to use wifi
[06:38] <UbuntuJulez> is support for WMV just pretty much in the air?
[06:38] <poddo> jack, im an ati guy myself, but this is an older commercial box tha i havnt upgraded yet
[06:38] <macgeek> does anyone here know how to uninstall dancer-ircd?
[06:38] <poddo> hey, digitalpenguin
[06:39] <Jack_Sparrow> poddo: what card?
[06:39] <HackerX_> Flannel, i just tryed that and no good
[06:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati > jack_sparrow
[06:39] <avis> poddo, nvidia-legacy sounds right if that is the name of the driver.  and yes that is a legacy card so -- i'd let the ubuntu documentation and hardware judgement be the judge of what to use as driver there.  just backup your xorg.conf and your safe no matter how you go.  its either -legacy or not.
[06:40] <Tsukino> My laptop's getting a fair bit warmer idling than it does in Windows. I do cat /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/info and it'd saying that throttling is off, how do I enable that?
[06:40] <Flannel> Cigarette: you might try these howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo and  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[06:40] <Flannel> HackerX_: what error do you get?
[06:40] <poddo> riva tnt2 128, jack.  yes i looked at the documentation and it said legacy, so ill go with that
[06:40] <UbuntuJulez> !wmv
[06:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:40] <Cigarette> flannel, thanks
[06:40] <lnxguit> ryan_naruto, you will need nfs-common and nfs-kernel-server
[06:41] <HackerX_> Flannel, gaim-dev:
[06:41] <HackerX_>   Depends: gaim (=1:1.5.0+1.5.1cvs20051015-1ubuntu10) but 1:1.9.99.is.2.0.0+beta3-1ubuntu1 is to be installed
[06:41] <HackerX_>   Depends: gaim-data (=1:1.5.0+1.5.1cvs20051015-1ubuntu10) but 1:1.9.99.is.2.0.0+beta3-1ubuntu1 is to be installed
[06:41] <avis> i failed at compiling my own kernel.  but then who can blame me ??  make xconfig needs to be studied.  plus i dont know anything about the celeron d other than its 686 with EM64T though i'm running 32-bit.  crazy.
[06:41] <poddo> to restart x, it would be sudo startx, right?
[06:41] <HackerX_> Flannel, doesnt have the sources to get those
[06:41] <highphilosopher> Celeron... Y?
[06:42] <Tsukino> I also have the problem that I can't change the permissions or ownership of two folders where I have a couple partitions mounted.
[06:42] <avis> poddo, you can kill it with ctrl-backspace
[06:42] <shawnr_> poddo, you could crtl+alt+backspadce
[06:42] <sethk> avis, you don't need to do anything related to the celeron.  just pick it off the menu.
[06:42] <avis> celeron d
[06:42] <poddo> avis, thanks
[06:42] <avis> ok
[06:42] <HackerX_> 
[06:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Tsukino: what format are the partitions?
[06:42] <Tsukino> vfat
[06:42] <sethk> avis, doesn't matter, compile for i386.  It's possibly a slight downgrade but it will certainly run.
[06:42] <Flannel> HackerX_: did you add the source repositories to your repository list?
[06:42] <avis> well i wouldn't know what else needed to change i had been following a guide with a few tips on the ubuntulinux.org website.
[06:43] <HackerX_> Flannel, what source?
[06:43] <avis> ok
[06:43] <sethk> avis, you don't really need to change anything.
[06:43] <HackerX_> Flannel, im using all that are in  there
[06:43] <digitalpenguin> poddo just had a problem
[06:43] <avis> actually i'm quite fine not having the latest kernel.  i'll just wait until the new build comes out.  its just something i had never been able to do before.
[06:43] <sababa> hi, I think I found a bug in stegdetect package, can anyone help me confirm it?
[06:43] <Tsukino> I went in and edited /etc/fstab to mount the partitions to a couple folders I have, but I even in sudo it's denying me the ability to change ownership/permissions
[06:43] <Flannel> HackerX_: hmm?  have you added the source repositories?
[06:43] <HackerX_> yeh
[06:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !diskmounter > Tsukino
[06:44] <dtts> where do programs typically install to?
[06:44] <Flannel> HackerX_: and you updated your cache after that?
[06:44] <HackerX_> yes
[06:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Tsukino: That does it for you..
[06:44] <AAA> dtts  /bin /usr/bin /sbin /usr/sbin
[06:44] <AAA> dtts  /usr/local/bin|sbin
[06:44] <arooni> can someone help me use wget to get all files at a given url?  i don't get all files, i just get some
[06:44] <sethk> dtts, from source to /usr/local
[06:44] <Flannel> HackerX_: try downloading those files by themselves, since they're apparently what are in the repositories.  You shouldnt get any problems
[06:44] <sethk> dtts, as in /usr/local/bin
[06:45] <HackerX_> where from???
[06:45] <dtts> AAA: main difference between bin and sbin?
[06:45] <AAA> super user binary
[06:45] <sethk> dtts, sbin is usuallyl system programs
[06:45] <dtts> k, thanks
[06:45] <Geoffrey2> in general, is there any real advantage to using the i686 kernel?
[06:46] <highphilosopher> Geoffrey2: yes
[06:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Tsukino: /dev/sda4 /media/sda4 vfat rw,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0 is what I have for my vfat
[06:46] <AAA> and /usr/local is usually where most programs you compile from source go by default /usr/local/etc /usr/local/bin etc.
[06:46] <HackerX_> Flannel, where from?
[06:46] <Flannel> HackerX_: the repositories, main I imagine.
[06:46] <wasauce> hey if I have a bit of code (ethtool -s eth0 wol g) that I want run as root  at startup where should I put it?
[06:46] <AAA> Geoffrey2  if you have a PII or ++
[06:46] <UbuntuJulez> why does Totem give me an error message "subclass did not specify output size" when playing a WMV file?
[06:46] <avis> the only one i have found is that you get to use the extra cpu extensions for things like mplayer-686 :)  though i'm not a high adept of ubuntu i just use it as a primary operating system.
[06:46] <Flannel> HackerX_: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/net/gaim
[06:46] <BrMiHi08> Anyone here ever have windows say Missing ntldr after installing grub?
[06:46] <UbuntuJulez> (when trying to resize the video)
[06:47] <Tsukino> I'm a newbie, but why are some partitions labeled sda# and others hda#? all mine are hda
[06:47] <FR500> Josh: ???
[06:47] <Flannel> Tsukino: SATA vs IDE
[06:47] <UbuntuJulez> Br, yes, but only when Linux was removed from the system
[06:47] <AAA> Tsukino  sda is generally scsi hda ide
[06:47] <Tsukino> ah, okay
[06:47] <Geoffrey2> AAA, I have a laptop with a Celeron M Processor
[06:47] <highphilosopher> Tsukino Sda SCSI, HDA IDE
[06:47] <UbuntuJulez> BrMiHi08, i mean
[06:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Tsukino: sata vs ide
[06:47] <AAA> Geoffrey2  686
[06:47] <Tsukino> makes sense now
[06:48] <BrMiHi08> UbuntuJulez-  I have ubuntu on here and it says it is missing, any ideas how to get it back on there?
[06:48] <BrMiHi08> Seems to be a MBR problem
[06:48] <wasauce> BrMiHi08: yes check these out http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/installation/19787-re-installed-grub-xp-hard-drive-now-ntldr-missi.html
[06:48] <AAA> BrMiHi08  boot to the cd and run grub
[06:48] <UbuntuJulez> BrMiHi08; are windows and ubuntu both on HDA1?
[06:48] <Tsukino> hehe, wow, I must be getting cured of Windows faster than I thought..
[06:48] <Jack_Sparrow> BrMiHi08: boot xp cd hit f8 get to command prompt... fdisk /mbr
[06:49] <wasauce> hey if I have a bit of code (ethtool -s eth0 wol g) that I want run as root  at startup where should I put it?
[06:49] <digitalpenguin> what driver should i use for Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) 65x/M650/740 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter
[06:49] <BrMiHi08> AAA- I fixed grub up so it should be worrking but I'll tryt that
[06:49] <UbuntuJulez> anyone know about the WMV resize issue in Totem (only player that seems to want to play most of my WMV files) giving me "sublcass did not specify output size" whenever i try to resize the video while playing
[06:49] <Tsukino> I just decided to sudo nano my /etc/fstab instead of using gksudo sedit
[06:49] <poddo> FTW
[06:49] <poddo> oops, wrong chan
[06:49] <Flannel> Tsukino: that's fine.  editors are editors ;)
[06:49] <UbuntuJulez> mplayer will play them too but gives me some weird "no xvideo support" error
[06:49] <BrMiHi08> Ubuntujulez- ubuntu is on hdb, and windows is on hda
[06:49] <BrMiHi08> Jack_Sparrow- I can get by with formatting the MBR?
[06:50] <BrMiHi08> btw grub is on hdb
[06:50] <ubuntu> I keep getting this message when I try to log on, and I think it is because the disk is full. "GDM could not open your authorization file. This could mean that you are out of disk space or that your home directory could not be opened for writing. In any case, is not possible to log in. Please contact your system administrator." Is there anyway I can clear the disk using a live cd?
[06:50] <digitalpenguin> can any one tell me what driver i would need for this Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) 65x/M650/740 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter
[06:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Tsukino: IT will not fix grub but it will get your window install back so you can start fresh
[06:50] <AAA> wasauce  make a file named ethtool and put it in /etc/init.d/ chmod it a+x then run update-rc.d -f ethtool defaults
[06:50] <poddo> i wish my parents were open minded enough to use linux, my house would be totally linux-fied
[06:50] <highphilosopher> ubuntu: just log in to terminal and delete some files.
[06:50] <Tsukino> Oh, I have no problem booting Windows
[06:51] <avis> my dad *barely* gets by using windows xp.  i feel so bad for him.
[06:51] <wasauce> AAA: K will try that... thanks
[06:51] <avis> he can use office though much better than i can :/
[06:51] <AAA> wasauce  should work fine, let me know
[06:51] <poddo> avis, my dad too.  well, except for the office part
[06:52] <avis> poddo, its ok.. can't force anyone to do or learn anything they either can't or wont.
[06:52] <Tsukino> I just had a couple extra partitions to transfer between XP and Ubuntu, and root power wasn't letting me alter permissions. Testing the extra options in /etc/fstab now though
[06:52] <poddo> yeah i kno
[06:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Tsukino: Sorry, sent to wrong person..
[06:52] <highphilosopher> !that
[06:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about that - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:52] <poddo> !sis
[06:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about sis - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:53] <digitalpenguin> o man im going to force my father to learn it
[06:53] <digitalpenguin> im sick of fixing his virus's
[06:53] <HackerX_> Flannel, is there a deb for gaim-guifications-2.13beta3
[06:53] <poddo> lol @ penguin
[06:53] <Geoffrey2> AAA, in Synaptic, what do I need to select to install the 686 kernel?
[06:53] <AAA> digitalpenguin  start charging him then
[06:53] <poddo> tell him to stop with his pr0n
[06:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Tsukino: If you get stuck, try the diskmounter script for your vfat partitions..
[06:53] <davegoodson> hi, ive just installed ubuntu again, and now its added a grub boot to my other hard disk, which isn't what i really wanted. is there any way of making my XP disk the default os to boot from with grub?
[06:54] <digitalpenguin> i should start charging him
[06:54] <arooni> hello?
[06:54] <arooni> any help with wget ?
[06:54] <AAA> Geoffrey2  I don't use Synapitc, but you want to install the kernel-image-`uname -r`-686 package (or something close to that)
[06:54] <Flannel> HackerX_: nope, 2.12-1
[06:54] <poddo> digitalpenguin, yeah.  80 bucks a pop
[06:54] <digitalpenguin> and in my time of fixing his broken crap i havent found any pron yet
[06:54] <digitalpenguin> thank god
[06:54] <Flannel> davegoodson: changing one line in grub will do it!
[06:54] <poddo> haha
[06:54] <avis> i could never charge my father for computer work.  he could offer me to build his computer from scratch but our family has a symbiotic relationship.  we all need each other.
[06:54] <davegoodson> Flannel: how do i do it? :)
[06:54] <Jack_Sparrow> digitalpenguin: set him up a dual boot with Kubuntu and the redmond theme.  I did it for my father in law... 82   and he never realized it was linux.
[06:54] <digitalpenguin> but ya anyone have a place i can get the drivers for Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) 65x/M650/740 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter
[06:55] <digitalpenguin> lawl jack_sparrow
[06:55] <poddo> jack_sparrow,  thats cuz hes 82 XD
[06:55] <Jack_Sparrow> !sis
[06:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about sis - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:55] <AAA> digitalpenguin  ubuntu should autodetect that
[06:55] <HackerX_> Flannel, ok well this laptop is going threw a window real soon. i had to reinstall and i had it b4 someone game me a apt-get command that fixed everything but i cant figure out what it was
[06:55] <AAA> mmmm apt-get
[06:55] <Flannel> davegoodson: edit your grub menu list, (gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.list) and change the default value (it is probably 0, you'll want to change it to the menu item that corresponds to windows, probably 2, maybe not)
[06:55] <Jack_Sparrow> poddo Retired electrical engineer.. still pretty sharp.. Just thought I tweaked the graphics.
[06:55] <poddo> digitalpenguin  vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:56] <poddo> jack_sparrow, ah, sorry to have misjudged him
[06:56] <Jack_Sparrow> np.. he is cool
[06:56] <Flannel> HackerX_: you'll have to look at other repositories, GAIM might have a repository for it.  If it's a dependency of some package you got, then I imagine itll be getable where you got that package
[06:56] <Jack_Sparrow> I even changed the Kmenu icon to the XP start
[06:56] <davegoodson> Flannel: Nothing is in that file
[06:57] <Flannel> davegoodson: oh, sorry.  no i in list.  menu.lst
[06:57] <macgeek> how do I create a user in the CLI?
[06:57] <digitalpenguin> thanks AAA
[06:57] <digitalpenguin> and poddo
[06:58] <poddo> no prob brah
[06:58] <avis> macgeek, adduser
[06:58] <digitalpenguin> im not your brah brah
[06:58] <poddo> XD
[06:58] <axl000> hi all
[06:58] <sethk> macgeek, useradd
[06:58] <digitalpenguin> HI
[06:58] <sidlinux> has anyone been able to get the make program to work on dapper drake?  keep getting errors
[06:58] <axl000> please help me whit a sound problem on dapper
[06:59] <linux_user400354> digitalpenguin, this command should help you.    sudo sed -i 's/id:5:initdefault:/id:6:initdefault:/' /etc/inittab && sudo reboot
[06:59] <nocarrier> sidlinux: make? use it everyday.... what's the problem?
[06:59] <Geoffrey2> hmm, according to this one poster, the 686 kernel can make laptops overheat....hmmm, maybe I'd better stick with the 386 kernel
[06:59] <nomin> I just installed amarok on dapper and it won't play anything.  I installed the arts engine to see if it would work then, and it's not.  Any suggestions?
[06:59] <axl000> anyone please help me whit a sound problem on dapper
[07:00] <davegoodson> Flannel: i'm not sure on what to change, i cant see anything to do with default
[07:00] <arooni> folks wget -l 1 -r -k hostname.com does *not* give all images located at a specific url.... what am i doing wrong?
[07:00] <nomin> axl1000: do you get any sound at all?
[07:00] <arooni> and how can i launch files from the command line?
[07:00] <axl000> no
[07:00] <axl000> nothing
[07:00] <arooni> i.e. like html files
[07:00] <davegoodson> ## default grub root device
[07:00] <davegoodson> ## e.g. groot=(hd0,0)
[07:00] <davegoodson> # groot=(hd1,0)
[07:00] <Flannel> davegoodson: near the top, there should be a line, "default"
[07:00] <digitalpenguin> hey linux_user400354 check your PM
[07:00] <Flannel> davegoodson: dont paste.  use pastebin
[07:01] <Flannel> !paste
[07:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:01] <nomin> !audio
[07:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about audio - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:01] <linux_user400354> i dont have a PM
[07:01] <davegoodson> ah sorry lol
[07:01] <nocarrier> arooni: html use lynx or links...
[07:01] <nomin> !sound
[07:01] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[07:01] <davegoodson> Flannel: is that the one though?
[07:01] <arooni> nocarrier: please elaborate
[07:01] <arooni> and how can i launch a file with the default program taht is supposed to open it
[07:01] <arooni> from the command line
[07:01] <Flannel> davegoodson: yeah, paste that file
[07:01] <nocarrier> arooni: ah, like mime types from the shell...
[07:02] <sidlinux> i was trying to install a driver using make.  i was getting some path error like /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/build: No such file or directory.
[07:02] <digitalpenguin> o well linux i was asking what does that command do
[07:02] <arooni> nocarrier: well right now i think that i have to navigate to that direcotry and open it with firefox
[07:02] <axl000> but ubuntu seems to recognize my sound card
[07:02] <wasauce> AAA: seems to have worked great... your help is much appreciated
[07:02] <arooni> how do i just open a given file with whatever program is assigned to opne it
[07:02] <bodaciousb> when i boot my ubuntu computer, using the newest version of ubuntu i get an error saying "failed to initialize HAL" when X starts up... anyone know how i can fix this?
[07:03] <nocarrier> sidlinux: you need to install the kernel keaders
[07:03] <avis> philips made a soundcard in 1999 called the seismic edge.  back then there were no linux drivers for it.  i did a google search to see what i could come up with on dapper.  i believe its unsupported.  like philips never released the specs of the cards.  you can lspci it i know that.  but i thought linux people would reverse engineer such things to make them work ?  or does that not work with patented hardware ?
[07:03] <damo22> whats the minimum amount of memory required  for xubuntu?
[07:03] <davegoodson> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19845
[07:03] <nocarrier> arooni: heh... well, I know you can do it, I just never have... you are talking from a console, not from X, correct?
[07:03] <arooni> folks how do i open a filie from the command line?
[07:03] <arooni> yes
[07:03] <avis> damo22 i'd say about 192megs
[07:03] <arooni> nocarrier: yes
[07:03] <davegoodson> Flannel: Would it be possible to have Windows at the start and then ubuntu on the bottom?
[07:03] <nocarrier> arooni: k... gimme a sec...
[07:04] <digitalpenguin> linux_user what was that command for
[07:04] <Flannel> davegoodson: sure, just swap them around.  But you can just as easily change the default menu item
[07:04] <sidlinux> nocarrier: I was trying to install a driver and it was only available through running this make program.  whenever I execute it, I get something like /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/build: No such file or directory.
[07:04] <avis> arooni you want a console or terminal editor that is simple ?  try nano
[07:04] <davegoodson> Flannel: just to the hard disk name?
[07:04] <UbuntuJulez> !wine
[07:04] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:05] <Flannel> davegoodson: er, what?
[07:05] <nomin> !amarok
[07:05] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.1 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php
[07:05] <nocarrier> sidlinux: yea, you need to install the kernel headers for your current kernel...
[07:05] <arooni> avis: i want the effect of double clicking a file and it opening with whatever program is assigned to handle it
[07:05] <arooni> from teh command line
[07:05] <arooni> surely its cant be that hard
[07:05] <avis> arooni gksudo <executable>
[07:05] <arooni> perfect
[07:05] <sidlinux> nocarrier: how do you know what kernel are you using?
[07:05] <arooni> thanks
[07:05] <poddo> is XGL an addon to wahtever desktop you have or is it like a replacement for GNOME and KDE
[07:05] <damo22> what is the boot option for booting into console from a live cd
[07:06] <digitalpenguin> so anyone have time to tell me how to get XGL working on ubuntu
[07:06] <Flannel> digitalpenguin: #ubuntu-xgl for XGL related questions
[07:06] <nomin> !amarok sound
[07:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about amarok sound - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:06] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell digitalpenguin about xgl
[07:06] <digitalpenguin> thanks flannel
[07:06] <Flannel> digitalpenguin: they'll have factoids/links in the topic
[07:06] <nocarrier> sidlinux: uname -r
[07:07] <avis> poddo its an overlay to the X server which gives you graphical enhancements
[07:07] <Elko> xgl, heh, even I could figure that one out
[07:07] <nocarrier> arooni: you said from a console...
[07:07] <avis> and workspace enhancements and various effects. .
[07:07] <poddo> cool, thanks avis
[07:07] <arooni> i thoguth console == terminal
[07:07] <arooni> maybe im wrong
[07:07] <arooni> so i run wget -m sitename.com and it doesnt look the same
[07:08] <sidlinux> nocarrier: so i install the kernel headers for 2.6.15-26-686 since that was the output of the uname -r command.
[07:08] <nocarrier> arooni: no, I thought you meant like being able to type ./index.html from the prompt and it automatically opens lynx
[07:08] <arooni> ahh
[07:08] <keef3po> anyone know how to add write access to the /media/windows/ mount?
[07:08] <nocarrier> keef3po: i wouldn't
[07:08] <Tsukino> Okay. I have /d as the directory where my first partition. If I run Nautilus under gksudo and try to change the privileges to allow everyone to write to the folder, it instantly unchecks that box as soon as I click it
[07:08] <avis> keef3po, unless its fat32 you should not try.
[07:08] <nocarrier> keef3po: or that ;)
[07:08] <Tsukino> Yet I can make another folder and alter its privileges just fine.
[07:09] <keef3po> ntfs... guess I'll keep my hands off  ;)
[07:09] <avis> keef3po, you can read all you want tho :)
[07:09] <damo22> is it possible to install server mode ubuntu with 64mb ram until i upgrade ram
[07:10] <Munchkinguy> Are there any good Scrabble-type games for Ubuntu (aside from the text-based one in the universe repository)?
[07:10] <davegoodson> Flannel: please look at this, i dont understand what i should set default to: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19845
[07:10] <edgy> Hi, which one do you prefer: To have a book on chm or pdf? why? to make this question relavent it's a linux book ;)
[07:10] <nocarrier> that is a good question though... without the #!/bin/sh or perl at the top of a script, is there any way to "map" the extension to a default program?
[07:10] <Munchkinguy> edgy: book
[07:10] <MoNkUnClE> anyone know something about vmware server console????
[07:11] <avis> i prefer pdf because its not exclusive to windows.. why ?  i thought chf was a proprietary windows format.
[07:11] <avis> chm
[07:11] <nocarrier> pdf
[07:12] <edgy> avis: but pdf is also a proprietary adobe format
[07:12] <edgy> nocarrier: why?
[07:12] <nocarrier> edgy: not anymore...
[07:12] <damo22> is there a dapper cd release that has text mode install?
[07:12] <Munchkinguy> Oh I see, I read the question wrong. I though the choice was between pdf or book
[07:12] <nocarrier> edgy: it was created by adobe, but the format is open...
[07:12] <orbin> damo22: grab the alternative install iso
[07:12] <damo22> okay thanks
[07:12] <avis> well adobe must let people use pdf on linux.  we can all read pdf.  we cannot read chm on linux.  at least -- not in the common way.
[07:13] <ltmon> Looking for help... I'm having wireless issues: both with networkmanager and standard networking (i.e. iwconfig) I can't get an IP address.  I can connect see the wireless AP and connect no problem, but DHCPDISCOVER just times out.  The same laptop works fine wired, and this laptop I'm using right now works fine on wireless with the same network settings.  This behaviour seemed to start after I resumed from suspend 2 ram last.  Thanks.
[07:13] <lophyte> avis: actually there's xCHM :)
[07:13] <nocarrier> edgy: because just for example, finding a good chm reader for a mac is hard... finding a pdf reader is basic
[07:13] <avis> :o
[07:13] <edgy> nocarrier, avis: chm is also open I think I can use kchmviewer in ubuntu for example
[07:13] <avis> oh..
[07:13] <avis> heh
[07:14] <lophyte> but that's probably because someone reverse engineered the format
[07:14] <edgy> nocarrier: don't know about macs but in linux it's widely available
[07:14] <nocarrier> edgy: well, you can use any format you wish, but if it was me, and I had a choice between two dox, i would choose the pdf because i wouldn't have to go out and find something to read it
[07:14] <nocarrier> edgy: that was just an example
[07:14] <jared> Hey guys
[07:14] <mdious> woo hoo new version of opera lol....
[07:15] <nocarrier> opera? bah...
[07:15] <jared> I just got the dist-upgrade done...now i want to repartition my external hd, seeing as its ntfs rigth now
[07:15] <jared> i opened gparted and it wont let me so anything with it
[07:15] <shadeofgrey> mc; hey
[07:15] <avis> is it mounted jared ?
[07:15] <edgy> nocarrier: your point is valid. one can also argue in favor of chm because it's size is much smaller
[07:15] <jared> i believe so
[07:15] <avis> ok
[07:16] <edgy> jared: you open it with sudo?
[07:16] <jared> mhmm
[07:16] <jared> sudo gparted
[07:16] <nomin> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169  <[07:16] <mdious> nocarier> :)
[07:16] <avis> gparted shows up as a gui app for me
[07:16] <jared> it is
[07:16] <avis> it should detect /dev/sdX and you should be able to alter it in the X environment.
[07:17] <Tsukino> =/ So I make a test directory and set its privileges so everyone can write to it. Once I mount the partition to /test it removes the write privileges from it
[07:17] <edgy> nomin: that BadDevice is related to synpatic device in your xorg file I guess and has nothing to do with your sound problem
[07:17] <jared> any ideas avis or edgy
[07:17] <nomin> amarok is playing a streaming internet radio station, but I don't hear it.
[07:17] <avis> if its mounted, jared, gparted should be able to see it i would think ?
[07:17] <jared> i dont' have permissions to write, what is the file i can edit to add them
[07:17] <jared> i do see it
[07:17] <Waterbou> no one is herecould I get some help
[07:18] <Waterbou> gah
[07:18] <jared> but i right click on the partition and wont let me do anything to it
[07:18] <Waterbou> rather could I get some help
[07:18] <avis> i have no idea jared.
[07:18] <avis> whats going on Waterbou ?
[07:18] <Madpilot> Waterbou, it would help if you asked an actual question first - there's lots of people here
[07:18] <edgy> jared: may be you can try booting from the CD instead of the HD and try
[07:18] <nomin> actually, it's downloading it, put the equalizers aren't doing anything.
[07:18] <Waterbou> I'm installing ubuntu and it says starting up the partitioner then I am put to a command prompt
[07:18] <nomin> *but the
[07:19] <Waterbou> And I have no idea what to do
[07:19] <keef3po> Waterbou, did the LiveCD boot into the Gnome GUI?
[07:20] <avis> Waterbou, i've never been dumped to a command prompt unless i had told the installer to do so in which case i switched terminals so i think either something is voodoo with your setup or i gotta leave that one to the experts.
[07:20] <Waterbou> No keef
[07:20] <Waterbou> I am installing it
[07:20] <Waterbou> It just put me into a command prompt
[07:21] <tabman> there is no package for netbeans ?
[07:21] <Tsukino> my terminal window always opens at a certain size, is there a command to add to make it wider when it opens?
[07:21] <nomin> someone else is having the same problem with Amarok that I am:  http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/index.php?showtopic=40707
[07:21] <keef3po> WB, install from the LiveCD or the alternate .iso?
[07:21] <nomin> maybe I should add a repo and install the latest amarok
[07:22] <Waterbou> what live CD
[07:22] <AAA> libbsf-java ?
[07:22] <Waterbou> I have the gnoppix LiveCD and I would like to install that but I am unsure how
[07:22] <avallach> I have a nvidia geforce4 mx 420 (nv17s) in my Dapper box - everything worked great with the nvidia driver for a long time but a couple weeks ago it started locking up (usually when a screensaver came on), i reverted to the nv driver & no lockups...anybody know why nvidia stopped working?
[07:22] <AAA> avallach  bad karma? hehe check /var/log/Xorg.*.log
[07:22] <avallach> i think that only runs from a live cd
[07:23] <mrPolite> im trying to help my neighbor install dapper, however im running into a problem. he has one hard drive, 80gigs of ntfs goodness its has about 6 gigd worth of ms windows and nothing else. im trying to create a partition using the ubuntu installer and then gparted but can not resize the ntfs partition. the drive is listed as hda1, but when i check the terminal after gparted errors out, i says it could not mount /dev/hdd1 or /dev/hdc1 depending
[07:23] <avis> avallach, from what i've learned tonight you might need the nvidia-legacy driver instead.  it might be better than nv.
[07:23] <nomin> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-26308.html
[07:23] <keef3po> wb, okay... when you download the .iso, it's typically a liveCD with an install icon on the desktop
[07:23] <tabman> netbeans & Ubuntu ?
[07:23] <AAA> tabman  libbsf-java
[07:23] <avallach> avis: really?  my card is not listed as one that needs the legacy driver....i thought it was just for old cards.
[07:24] <AAA> tabman  apt-cache search net beans
[07:24] <keef3po> however, there is an alternate .iso that installs without booting into a Live session
[07:24] <avis> avallach, i appologize but i had not run into that card for a very long time.
[07:24] <avallach> avis: is there a howto or something for installing the legacy driver?
[07:24] <mdious> I'm off, cya everyone.
[07:24] <AAA> Cigarette  what error
[07:24] <avis> avallach, it should come with the nvidia-glx.  if nvidia does not work, seems like next best choice.
[07:25] <avallach> avis: do i just put nvidia-legacy in my xorg.conf then?  (as opposed to nv or nvidia)
[07:25] <avis> yes
[07:25] <avis> and always make a backup first
[07:25] <Cigarette> when i run ndiswrapper -m i get this "modprobe config already contains alias directive"
[07:25] <Waterbou> I was told to put it onto a CD usingNero, which I DID but.  So based on my results I am guessing I got the second one you are talking about?
[07:25] <avallach> cool ill try it thanks
[07:25] <avis> i hope it works ?
[07:25] <avallach> avis: yea i learned that the hard way:)
[07:25] <avis> yeh :)
[07:25] <u221e> I'm trying to get 3d accelleration on a machine with a voodoo3 card... I have libglide3 and mesa dri libs so. How ever anything other then glxgears and some screensavers crash. TuxRacer gets to title screen but then crashes.
[07:25] <Cigarette> AAA, did you catch that?
[07:25] <keef3po> not necessarily... did you make a data disk or burn an image from Nero?
[07:26] <u221e> I noticed alot of other people seems to have the same problem but I can't find a fix.
[07:26] <tabman> AAA: is this the IDE netbeans ?
[07:26] <AAA> Cigarette  check out /etc/modules and see if that is list, if it is remove it and the update-modules
[07:26] <Waterbou> I burned an image
[07:26] <AAA> Cigarette  then try again
[07:26] <avis> i find that funny someone had a tnt2 earlier and that is the card i had used many years ago learning on linux and someone was going to use XGL with that ?  that is so -- uhm, how do you say ----- odd.
[07:26] <AAA> tabman  no idea, just what a searched the repos for
[07:26] <keef3po> okay, if it is the alternate install, it should take you through the install process without dumping you into the console
[07:26] <Cigarette> AAA, i'm a total newbie when it comes to ndiswrapper. can you explain what you said?
[07:26] <AAA> tabman  you can apt-cache show that pkg
[07:27] <tabman> AAA: no its not its not net beans
[07:27] <u221e> Any ideas?
[07:27] <axl000> how can i know which alsa module im using??
[07:27] <AAA> Cigarette  you'll have to hold, I have to put the kids to bed now
[07:27] <Cigarette> AAA, ok thanks
[07:27] <AAA> tabman  sorry, that was my best guess
[07:27] <avis> u221e, i have no ideas but i'm scrolling up and am on it
[07:27] <Waterbou> It took me through the install then said starting up the partitioner then I am at the command prompt like thing
[07:27] <axl000> how can i know which alsa module im using??
[07:28] <keef3po> did you choose to partition your drive manually?
[07:28] <Waterbou> no
[07:28] <Waterbou> it just did it
[07:28] <avis> u221e, no i have no ideas i have only used nvidia cards and they have been kind enough to put precompiled binaries in the repos for us.
[07:28] <keef3po> weird
[07:28] <Waterbou> How would I partition my drive manually since it appears I will have to
[07:28] <keef3po> someone else will have to pick that one up
[07:29] <keef3po> but just for kicks, type, "startx"
[07:29] <nomin> ahh, installing libxine-extracodecs solved my amarok sound problem
[07:29] <QJ> Hey, I was changing the file system on my USB drive, and now it no longer shows up in /dev/
[07:29] <QJ> XP
[07:29] <Tsukino> Well, that took long enough to fix.
[07:29] <EpP> hey... how do i remove gnome once ive gotten Kubuntu?
[07:29] <Waterbou> startx did nothing
[07:30] <Tsukino> Not sure how I remedied it, since I was doing the same thing over, but I got the folders to have the right privileges now.
[07:30] <u221e> avis, the tdfx driver is in the repo as well. I think it's somehow broken though
[07:30] <QJ> So, how can I get it back up and working?
[07:30] <Tsukino> Thanks for the help on that one guys.
[07:30] <Tsukino> =/ Now, does anyone else here have experience with acpi?
[07:30] <EpP> how do i remove kubuntu once i have installed it?
[07:30] <keef3po> sorry... someone else will have to pick this one up... were it me, I'd download the Ubuntu LiveCD and see if that boots
[07:30] <keef3po> good luck
[07:31] <davegoodson> Hi, when im using the EasyUbuntu tool, when i try to install the packages i get "Could not apply changes!
[07:31] <davegoodson> Fix broken packages first."
[07:31] <axl000>  how can i know which alsa module im using??
[07:31] <Cigarette> whats the command to delete a file??? lol i'm dumb
[07:32] <QJ> rm
[07:32] <Cigarette> thanks
[07:32] <QJ> Anyone have any idea here?
[07:32] <jbrimble> How do i rename a file in the shell?
[07:32] <fyrestrtr> jbrimble: mv oldfile newfile
[07:32] <jbrimble> thx
[07:32] <nocarrier> jbrimble: mv
[07:33] <mrPolite> avis, im running xgl on an mx400 card, flawless
[07:33] <fyrestrtr> jbrimble: might want to run through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[07:34] <davegoodson> Hi, when im using the EasyUbuntu tool, when i try to install the packages i get "Could not apply changes! Fix broken packages first."
[07:35] <mrPolite> davegoodson any package listed?
[07:36] <Tsukino> !acpi
[07:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about acpi - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:36] <mrPolite> !ntfs
[07:36] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[07:36] <fyrestrtr> is there a way to force remove a package? There is a pacakge whose init script is not working properly, and when I use apt-get to remove it, the process fails.
[07:36] <mrPolite> !format
[07:36] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[07:37] <Cigarette> !write ntfs
[07:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about write ntfs - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:37] <seshomaru> hello - can anyone tell me how do i know which kernel version im using?
[07:37] <fyrestrtr> seshomaru: uname -a
[07:37] <nocarrier> fyrestrtr: the init script is failing, or it is not +x anymore?
[07:37] <Kr0ntab> seshomaru, uname -r
[07:38] <seshomaru> uname -r
[07:38] <seshomaru> thank you all!
[07:38] <QJ> How do I list my hardware?
[07:38] <QJ> Or USB, or something
[07:38] <nocarrier> qj lspci
[07:38] <davegoodson> !automatrix
[07:38] <ubotu> I know nothing about automatrix - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:38] <fyrestrtr> nocarrier: no, its failing.
[07:39] <jason> anyone have any success with a broadcom wifi card?
[07:39] <davegoodson> whats the actual website for automatrix? on the fourm it doesn't show any more
[07:39] <fyrestrtr> !automatix
[07:39] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[07:39] <jason> I used this guide and now eth1 doesn't show up when I run iwconfig
[07:39] <jason> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=462995
[07:39] <Cigarette> how can i find my root password if i have forgotten it?
[07:39] <Cigarette> !root
[07:39] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:39] <Madpilot> Cigarette, there is no root password - have you forgotten your own pw?
[07:40] <Cigarette> no
[07:40] <Cigarette> i wanted to use su - root
[07:40] <mheath> jason, yes, I found some success with my Broadcom 4318
[07:40] <fyrestrtr> Cigarette: did you forcefully set the root password?
[07:40] <jason> mheath , can you give me a hand here
[07:40] <nocarrier> fyrestrtr: i know it involves --purge, but i don't remember the exact command
[07:40] <Cigarette> no, how can i do that
[07:40] <Cigarette> ?
[07:40] <nocarrier> <---- on a BCM4318 as we speak
[07:40] <fyrestrtr> Cigarette: don't -- use sudo.
[07:40] <jason> it's the 4319
[07:41] <Cigarette> its just irritating to have to type my pass all the time
[07:41] <nocarrier> jason: ndiswrapper
[07:41] <mheath> jason, take a look at the wiki. (hmm, seems to be down now...)
[07:41] <Madpilot> Cigarette, do 'sudo -i', then
[07:41] <Cigarette> thanks
[07:41] <fyrestrtr> nocarrier: it doesn't have to do with --purge because the removal never succeeds. --purge is just to remove configuration files.
[07:41] <mheath> jason, theres an excellent tutorial on the ubuntu wiki about setting broadcom wireless cards in dapper
[07:41] <jason> nocarrier, I used ndiswrapper and went through a whole ordeal
[07:41] <mheath> jason, including how to use the new native drivers.
[07:42] <jason> thanks mheath, looks like the wiki's down now :(
[07:42] <lyy> hello
[07:42] <nocarrier> jason: using it now... works like a champ
[07:43] <lyy> i'm looking for a drawing program for my little sister. what do you guys suggest?
[07:43] <nocarrier> lyy: gimp
[07:43] <Madpilot> lyy, Tuxpaint is nice and simple
[07:43] <QJ> GIMP.
[07:43] <Madpilot> the GIMP is excellent, but not simple
[07:43] <nocarrier> she'll be doing graphics design in no time
[07:43] <plhardy> tuxpaint
[07:43] <nocarrier> hehe
[07:43] <QJ> True
[07:44] <lyy> has to be simple
[07:44] <lyy> she's only 4 years old
[07:44] <Madpilot> lyy, or Inkscape - it's a powerful app, but it's got an excellent interface
[07:44] <lyy> how hard is it to install?
[07:44] <Kr0ntab> yeah check tuxpaint
[07:44] <Madpilot> lyy, easy to install
[07:44] <Madpilot> !info tuxpaint
[07:44] <ubotu> tuxpaint: A paint program for young children. In repository main, is optional. Version 1:0.9.15b-1ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 112 kB, installed size 328 kB
[07:44] <QJ> xpaint?
[07:44] <nocarrier> lyy: let her draw on your monitor with a crayon...
[07:44] <lyy> powerful..hmm..i don't think she cares how powerful it is
[07:44] <Madpilot> just install tuxpaint thru Add/Remove Apps
[07:44] <lyy> Madpilot: perfect
[07:44] <lyy> i'll do that
[07:45] <lyy> i just noticed that ubuntu has a bigger community then fedora
[07:45] <mrPolite> lyy my daughter uses tux paint when she wants to be silly, and inkscape when she wants to make something "for" someonw
[07:45] <Angela> inkscape is great :)
[07:45] <QJ> Anyways, How do I find my USB Drive?
[07:46] <lyy> i think i'll use inkscape myself
[07:46] <lyy> and she can use tuxpaint
[07:46] <Angela> I love the bleeding edge version.... the color pallets really make inkscape nice now :)
[07:46] <QJ> lscpi just shows the USB Controller -/
[07:46] <lyy> is there a windows inkscape?
[07:46] <Angela> yea, window and linux inkscape
[07:46] <Angela> and source
[07:46] <lyy> sweet
[07:46] <Madpilot> lyy, there's also gpaint, which is a lot like MS Paint
[07:46] <lyy> ah
[07:47] <lyy> she knows mspaint
[07:47] <plhardy> 4 years and already in the wrong way...
[07:47] <nocarrier> QJ: lsusb ;)
[07:47] <Madpilot> !info gpaint
[07:47] <Angela> GIMP too for windows and linux
[07:47] <ubotu> gpaint: GNU Paint - a small, easy to use paint program for GNOME. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.2.4+0.3.0pre5-2build1 (dapper), package size 105 kB, installed size 632 kB
[07:47] <Cigarette> can someone walk me through setting up my wifi card? i already have my drivers installed but i dont know what to do now really...
[07:47] <nedss> anybody using a macbook pro?
[07:47] <nedss> Cigarette, what kind of wifi card/drivers?
[07:47] <WUBRGAMER> hey guys
[07:48] <WUBRGAMER> i have an issue, of great issue-ness
[07:48] <Angela> !!
[07:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about ! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:48] <len> Hi, I got a question: What package do I have to install to preview my mp3 on Nautilus? I mean b4 I format my computer I just needed to pass my mouse over a mp3 and it started to play.
[07:48] <Angela> oops, sorry bot
[07:48] <nocarrier> WUBRGAMER: what's up?
[07:48] <fyrestrtr> !codecs
[07:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:48] <WUBRGAMER> i'm too stupid to figure out how to like............................................compress a directory into a compressed file
[07:48] <Cigarette> nedss, its a belkin 54g notebook card with the RT2500 drivers
[07:48] <lyy> !wireless
[07:48] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:48] <lyy> nice!
[07:48] <WUBRGAMER> i want a file instead of a directory, so i can email it to myself
[07:48] <mnelson> hey guys
[07:49] <fyrestrtr> WUBRGAMER: right click on it, create archive.
[07:49] <mnelson> having trouble finding info
[07:49] <nocarrier> Cigarette: the module is already installed?
[07:49] <mnelson> is there AirPort Extreme support for Ubuntu?
[07:49] <len> ne1?
[07:49] <WUBRGAMER> no
[07:49] <WUBRGAMER> through the command line
[07:49] <Cigarette> nocarrier, i already did ndiswrapper - m so i guess
[07:49] <nocarrier> WUBRGAMER: man tar
[07:49] <WUBRGAMER> dude
[07:49] <Angela> any VMware player for Ubuntu 64? none in synaptic (meh!)
[07:49] <WUBRGAMER> i couldn't figure it out
[07:50] <nedss> Cigarette,  I think you'd have more luck lookinga the wiki or other docs...if it was ndiswrapper or atheros I could help...
[07:50] <mnelson> anyone?
[07:50] <nocarrier> Cigarette: so when you type modprobe wlan0 what happens?
[07:50] <fyrestrtr> mnelson: I believe it is.
[07:50] <nocarrier> mnelson: what chipset is it? BCM?
[07:50] <Cigarette> nocarrier, i get nothing, just another command line
[07:50] <davegoodson> !defrag
[07:50] <ubotu> defragmentation is not needed for Ext3 and ReiserFS filesystems. They are much more efficient in their allocation of storage units.
[07:50] <Cigarette> or whatever its called
[07:51] <nocarrier> Cigarette: good, so now type iwconfig
[07:51] <nedss> nocarrier, why would you modprobe wlan0?  usually you modprobe modules, right...
[07:51] <len> well, I think nobody can help me with that. But how can I export a variable for good?
[07:51] <Cigarette> nocarrier, i dont get anything for wlan0
[07:51] <nedss> maybe sudo iwconfig wlan0
[07:51] <Angela> !vmware
[07:51] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[07:51] <Cigarette> i get info for ra0
[07:51] <len> like $JAVA_HOME
[07:51] <QJ> *sigh*
[07:51] <nocarrier> ah
[07:51] <nocarrier> ralink drivers
[07:52] <QJ> *Boots in Windows* Damn Sony.
[07:52] <UbuntuJulez> anyone know how to fix the "NO X-VIDEO" error message that I keep getting in Mplayer??? ( I think ubutu updated the package for it..started happening after it was updated)
[07:52] <lyy> !wireless
[07:52] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:52] <nocarrier> ok, so if you type sudo iwlist ra0 scan
[07:52] <nocarrier> what happens?
[07:52] <lyy> i can't get to that website
[07:52] <fyrestrtr> len: add it in .bashrc
[07:52] <fyrestrtr> len: but if its java, you should try sudo update-alternatives --config java
[07:52] <len> fyrestrtr: in which directory is it? /etc?
[07:52] <Alien|Freak> ra?  never seen that before
[07:52] <Cigarette> nocarrier, "interface doesnt support scanning"
[07:53] <Alien|Freak> infra red?
[07:53] <nocarrier> Cigarette: what is the module name, rt2500?
[07:53] <Evil_Ed`> private
[07:53] <Cigarette> yes
[07:53] <fyrestrtr> len: ~/.bashrc
[07:53] <nocarrier> Cigarette: ok, modprobe -r rt2500
[07:54] <nocarrier> then run modprobe ra0
[07:54] <Cigarette> ok, i get another line
[07:54] <Cigarette> now it says "ra0 not found"
[07:54] <len> fyrestrtr: Oh, but if I add in this file it will be for all users or only my user?
[07:54] <mnelson> I can't load the wireless documentation link
[07:55] <nocarrier> ok, hang on a sec...
[07:55] <mnelson> or help/wiki.ubuntu.com
[07:55] <mnelson> either of them
[07:55] <Cigarette> k
[07:55] <fyrestrtr> len: only your user, but as I said, if its java, use that other command I gave you.
[07:55] <Cigarette> lol
[07:55] <nocarrier> Cigarette: ok, type: cat /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper
[07:55] <len> fyrestrtr: it will work for a manual instalation of java?
[07:55] <jontec> Okay, how do I add my user to the admin group with all of the OTHER necessary secondary groups?
[07:56] <len> fyrestrtr: I've download java from sun's site
[07:56] <fyrestrtr> len: why did you download it? its available in repositories.
[07:56] <Iskander> Does anyone here have graphics problems with W: ET where you go into a server and your graphics get all jumbled up and out of place?
[07:56] <Cigarette> alial wlan0 ndiswrapper
[07:56] <Cigarette> alias*
[07:56] <vivek> kooooooooooi
[07:56] <nocarrier> ok, so when you type modprobe wlan0 what happens?
[07:57] <vivek> anybody home?
[07:57] <fyrestrtr> len: enable universe and multiverse, then sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[07:57] <nocarrier> after you type that, then type: dmesg|tail
[07:57] <Cigarette> nocarrier, i get another line
[07:57] <len> fyrestrtr: I want JDK
[07:57] <fyrestrtr> len: enable universe and multiverse, then sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk
[07:57] <nocarrier> anything about ndiswrapper?
[07:57] <jontec> does anyone know? (read above)
[07:57] <Cigarette> no
[07:57] <Cigarette> just another command line
[07:58] <nocarrier> when you type dmesg|tail
[07:58] <fyrestrtr> len: after you have enabled the repositories, type sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin sun-java5-doc
[07:59] <Cigarette> nocarrier, i get alot of stuff
[07:59] <hephaestus> im naked...is ne one else?
[07:59] <Cigarette> too much to type
[07:59] <nocarrier> can you pastebin it?
[07:59] <Cigarette> yea
[07:59] <Cigarette> just a sec
[07:59] <nocarrier> k
[07:59] <len> fyrestrtr: Kk, i'll do it. but anyway I would like to know how to enable a var for all users
[07:59] <Cigarette> pastebin.com?
[07:59] <fyrestrtr> len: add the export line in /etc/profile
[07:59] <nocarrier> whatever works for you
[07:59] <jason> how do I execute a shell script??
[07:59] <len> fyrestrtr: thx
[08:00] <nocarrier> jason: ./<script>
[08:00] <fyrestrtr> jason: bash /path/to/script
[08:00] <llama32> anyone know how to make mono/monodevelop work properly in breezy? it's more unstable than jim carey
[08:00] <Cigarette> actualy, i cant pastebin it. i dont have access without removing the wifi card. is it gonna mess everything up if i take the card out?
[08:00] <fyrestrtr> llama32: step one would be upgrade to dapper
[08:00] <jason> how come my eth1 is now coming up as "No such device"?
[08:00] <troytroy> hi all
[08:00] <nocarrier> Cigarette: shouldn't
[08:00] <Cigarette> k
[08:01] <jon_> how do i add a line to my sources.list file?
[08:01] <jared> Hey, so i have a usbdisk and its a ext3 fs how do i make it where i can write on it?
[08:01] <len> fyrestrtr: I'm getting a strange msg here
[08:02] <len> fyrestrtr: where can I paste to show u?
[08:02] <jared> jon_, type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:02] <jason> i tried following some guide to broadcom wifi cards and after now there's no eth1
[08:02] <jared> jon_, then you add the line in there and save
[08:02] <jason> it's gone when i iwconfig
[08:02] <fyrestrtr> !pastebin
[08:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:03] <EpP> hey i ran a loki installer and i dunno where the files were extracted to. Any help?
[08:03] <jason> am I going to need to reinstall the OS to get it back? because I cant' even retrace my steps anymore I've made so many
[08:04] <fyrestrtr> jared: mount it with a different mask
[08:04] <len> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19846 I pressed enter few times but it didnt worked
[08:04] <jared> fyrestrtr, a differnt mask?
[08:04] <len> fyrestrtr:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19846 I pressed enter few times but it didnt worked
[08:04] <hyperstream> since the router isnt allowing more than 1 computer to connect to it when wep/wpa enabled.
[08:04] <Cigarette> nocarrier, it's on ubuntu's pastebin
[08:04] <hyperstream> arg. ill just paste what i said a couple of hours ago explains better lawl.
[08:04] <hyperstream> hello, ive just installed a new wireless adapter. and used ndiswrapper to install the windows INF, install correctly iwconfig shows ra0 etc.. i using the gnome manager and trying to enable wep, (key being on the router: 123ABC1233 (64bit)) any ideas to why it wont assign a ip4 ipaddress etc
[08:04] <nocarrier> k
[08:05] <hyperstream> DHCP  is enabled :0
[08:05] <fyrestrtr> len: so, do what it tells you. This is only for the documentation, the rest of the stuff should have installed properly.
[08:05] <jared> fyrestrtr, what do you mean a different mask?
[08:05] <EpP> hey i ran a loki installer and i dunno where the files were extracted to. Any help?
[08:05] <Cigarette> EpP, did you check your home folder?
[08:05] <fyrestrtr> jared: mount -t auto mask=0000 /dev/foo /some/where
[08:06] <EpP> Cigarette,  yes... thats where the loki installer is too... could it be because im on a PPC?
[08:06] <len> fyrestrtr: Ok
[08:06] <jon_> jared: thanks, i didnt know about gedit
[08:06] <Cigarette> EpP, i dont know. no experience with ppc.
[08:06] <nocarrier> Cigarette: and when you type ndiswrapper -i what does it say?
[08:06] <kedarguru> heya
[08:06] <kedarguru> I've gotta quick question
[08:06] <EpP> Cigarette, if they are prebuilt bins then it shouldnt work should it?
[08:07] <fyrestrtr> !ask
[08:07] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:07] <kedarguru> :-P
[08:07] <kedarguru> yeah
[08:07] <kedarguru> just making sure someone is listening
[08:07] <Gumby> I'm trying to compile ndiswrapper on amd64 (kubuntu) and its telling me that I dont have a valid /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build directory.  Ive installed matching kernel headers for my kernel which I think is all I did in regular ubuntu.  Anyone have any idea what I might have done wrong?
[08:07] <sotired> when i plug in my wireles card in the live cd environment it works, however when i install, it will not work, whats worse is once i plug it in ubuntu will not run any porgrams, inluding network config and terminal
[08:07] <Cigarette> EpP, i dont know... I was just kinda giving the advice of a newbie...
[08:07] <jason> ok that's it I'm reinstalling. this is absurdly complicated
[08:07] <kedarguru> so why does stuff move around on the panels?
[08:07] <EpP> Cigarette, k
[08:07] <kedarguru> when I restart or log back in, things shift around
[08:08] <Cigarette> nocarrier, it says the options like -i, -d, -e, -l, -m
[08:08] <fyrestrtr> kedarguru: because its not locked
[08:08] <kedarguru> it is locked
[08:08] <mrPolite> kedarguru right click - Lock To Panel
[08:08] <kedarguru> :-O
[08:08] <Cigarette> nocarrier, it has -hotplug too
[08:08] <kedarguru> I could be wrong
[08:08] <nocarrier> sorry
[08:08] <nocarrier> ndiswrapper -l
[08:08] <jason> "/path/to/file/network_Startup_script"
[08:08] <Cigarette> oh
[08:08] <nocarrier> it's 2AM here...
[08:08] <The|Borg> any1 know where i can get a dep package of kismet?
[08:08] <mrPolite> kedarguru _everything_ needs to be locked if one thing isn;t others will shift around it
[08:08] <jon_> i got this message from synaptic
[08:08] <jason> ? there's no "/path" directory?
[08:08] <jon_> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://download.skype.com stable/non-free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/download.skype.com_linux_repos_debian_dists_stable_non-free_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[08:08] <marsswell> como faco para atualizar a da brezzer para a dapper?
[08:09] <jon_> how can i fix this?
[08:09] <fyrestrtr> !info kismet
[08:09] <jason> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=899926&postcount=24
[08:09] <ubotu> kismet: Wireless 802.11b monitoring tool. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2005.08.R1-1.2 (dapper), package size 910 kB, installed size 2408 kB
[08:09] <Cigarette> nocarrier, "rt2500 driver present"
[08:09] <jason> I'm supposed to take this literally?
[08:09] <kedarguru> hm also
[08:09] <sotired> this is driving me nuts..5 days trying to fix this
[08:09] <kedarguru> for system
[08:09] <jason> my eth1 is gone
[08:09] <digitalpenguin> anyone know why when i go to install java i get these  errors ::Errors were encountered while processing:
[08:09] <digitalpenguin>  clvm
[08:09] <digitalpenguin>  redhat-cluster-suite
[08:09] <digitalpenguin>  system-config-cluster
[08:09] <digitalpenguin> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[08:09] <nocarrier> ok, is the card back in?
[08:09] <jason> what the hell am I doing
[08:09] <The|Borg> i can alreddy see who the bot is..
[08:09] <fivre> !es marsswell
[08:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about es marsswell - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:09] <kedarguru> system > preferences > about me, why is it so detailed? does it serve any purpose?
[08:09] <Cigarette> nocarrier, no. i'll put it back
[08:09] <fivre> !es > marsswell
[08:09] <The|Borg> and wow its anoying
[08:09] <jason> anyone? this guide is useless to me now
[08:09] <marsswell> brezer to dapper command?
[08:10] <nocarrier> Cigarette: after you put it back in, run ndiswrapper -l again
[08:10] <jason> please someone spare me from having to reinstall and start from scratch
[08:10] <Cigarette> nocarrier, "rt2500 driver present, hardware present"
[08:10] <jon_> how do i use apt-get to synch the latest repository?
[08:10] <The|Borg> ummm Cigarette
[08:10] <Cigarette> yo
[08:11] <Cigarette> borg whats up
[08:11] <nocarrier> hmm... and when you run iwconfig ra0 comes up?
[08:11] <mrPolite> jon_ sudo apt-get update
[08:11] <jwtodd> is help.ubntu.com down? i'm looking for the "nvidia binary how to" doc.
[08:11] <fyrestrtr> jon_: sudo apt-get update
[08:11] <The|Borg> why would you be using ndiswrapper with a ralink card?
[08:11] <marsswell> no
[08:11] <nocarrier> borg: good point...
[08:11] <ivanowitch> !ad-hoc
[08:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about ad-hoc - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:11] <The|Borg> mine poped up and worked out of the box
[08:11] <EpP> im running a tun file... and its says its extracting... but no files show up.
[08:11] <EpP> run*
[08:11] <Cigarette> theres no linux driver available from the website
[08:12] <The|Borg> uhh...........
[08:12] <digitalpenguin> can anyone help me with why i got these errors: Errors were encountered while processing:
[08:12] <digitalpenguin>  clvm
[08:12] <digitalpenguin>  redhat-cluster-suite
[08:12] <digitalpenguin>  system-config-cluster
[08:12] <digitalpenguin> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[08:12] <nocarrier> !ralink
[08:12] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:12] <nocarrier> hehe
[08:12] <The|Borg> lol thy sould alreddy be installed for one and 2 yes there are
[08:12] <lyy> !airlink
[08:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about airlink - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:12] <Cigarette> i'm using a belkin card, and i was under the impression until today that i had a broadcom chipset
[08:12] <The|Borg> i see
[08:12] <The|Borg> ok
[08:12] <jwtodd> now the site is up for me ... odd ... just had to ask i guess :|
[08:12] <nocarrier> umm.. so when you run iwconfig, ra0 shows up as having wireless extensions?
[08:13] <Cigarette> nocarrier, it shows wlan0 now
[08:13] <jon_> ah, i tried to use the repos before updating
[08:13] <nocarrier> ok, now type iwlist wlan0 scan
[08:14] <Cigarette> i got my ap's SSID
[08:14] <Cigarette> and info
[08:14] <The|Borg> from what i know belkin wouldent know what linux is even if microsoft died and linus bit them in the ass
[08:14] <nocarrier> nice... are you using WEP or WPA?
[08:14] <nocarrier> ha
[08:14] <Cigarette> neither. i have no security risks here
[08:15] <mrPolite> Cigarette... dear Lord
[08:15] <Cigarette> i'm in the woods hahaha
[08:15] <nocarrier> ok, so type: sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid <youressid>
[08:16] <nocarrier> better yet, since you have a link now, type: sudo apt-get wifi-radar
[08:16] <nocarrier> better yet, since you have a link now, type: sudo apt-get install *wifi-radar
[08:16] <Cigarette> whats that?
[08:16] <nocarrier> kinda like M$ Zero wifi conf tool
[08:16] <nocarrier> neat tool
[08:16] <Cigarette> cool. it works with Xfce?
[08:16] <khaije1> nocarrier: what does the "*" indicate?
[08:16] <nocarrier> i think it is better than network manager
[08:17] <nocarrier> khaije1: i messed up ;)
[08:17] <nocarrier> it is an "error correction instrument"
[08:17] <nocarrier> lol
[08:17] <jon_> i downloaded a theme. how do i apply it?
[08:17] <The|Borg> yeah it does Cigarette
[08:17] <alienseer23> hello :)
[08:17] <The|Borg> i use it...
[08:17] <alienseer23> Q: How do a gain access to hard drives in order to mount them?
[08:17] <The|Borg> im useing xfce
[08:18] <shriphani> guys name a good program to convert around 200 mp3s to ogg vorbis ?
[08:18] <nocarrier> alienseer23: in what way?
[08:18] <mrPolite> jon_: System - Preferences - Theme
[08:18] <The|Borg> i'll bbl then ill try agian at the kismet thing
[08:18] <Cigarette> i still cant get online with it..... i'm connected but no internet
[08:18] <AAA> shriphani  oggenc
[08:18] <mrPolite> jon_: drang n drop
[08:18] <shriphani> AAA, is that gui ?
[08:18] <shriphani> oommandlinew
[08:18] <AAA> shriphani  cli
[08:18] <jason> why does it say about my eth1 "Interface doesn't support scanning : No such device" ?
[08:18] <nocarrier> Cigarette: you need to go to system -> admin.. -> networking
[08:18] <shriphani> oh
[08:19] <jason> when I iwlist scan ?
[08:19] <shriphani> there in the repos ?
[08:19] <Madpilot> jon_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEyeCandy - but the wiki isn't working for some people right now... :|
[08:19] <nocarrier> jason: are you using ndiswrapper?
[08:19] <Cigarette> nocarrier, i dont have that.
[08:19] <alienseer23> I just formatted ntfs to fat32...under system, administration, discs it sais they are still ntfs, and it also sais inaccessable when I try to enable the drives???
[08:19] <jason> nocarrier I think so
[08:19] <nocarrier> Cigarette: can you assign it a static ip?
[08:19] <alienseer23> they are fat 32, tho
[08:19] <shriphani> AAA, can it perform bulk conversions ?
[08:19] <AAA> alienseer23  do mount, and see if they are still mounted
[08:19] <nocarrier> jason: what happens if you type ndiswrapper
[08:19] <Cigarette> i dunno. how do i do that?
[08:19] <len> fyrestrtr: another question. I got a sound system with usb which I connect on my PC, but it doesnt work on linux. Do u know what i might be?
[08:19] <Cigarette> i'm in xubuntu because my laptop is carp
[08:19] <khaije1> anyone know the purpose of the shadow group on ubuntu/debian systems?
[08:20] <nocarrier> Cigarette: what network do you use? 192.168.1.x?
[08:20] <shriphani> Cigarette, system ------> networki
[08:20] <shriphani> ng ^
[08:20] <shriphani> if tis xubuntu
[08:20] <Cigarette> i dont have that....
[08:20] <AAA> shriphani  yeah, you prolly have to use bash a bit too
[08:20] <nocarrier> Cigarette: on the computer that works, is it linux or windows?
[08:20] <Cigarette> its kubuntu
[08:20] <Cigarette> linux
[08:20] <nocarrier> ok, type ifconfig
[08:21] <shriphani> AAA, you mean a bash script ?
[08:21] <nocarrier> give me the IP address
[08:21] <AAA> khaije1  so you can just steal /etc/password it is a salt/hash system
[08:21] <jason> nocarrier, I get this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19848
[08:21] <Cigarette> 192.168.2.101
[08:21] <marsswell> help
[08:21] <alienseer23> it's got one of them
[08:21] <shriphani> i think theres system settings or something from where you can do stuff
[08:21] <marsswell> Breezy to Dapper?
[08:21] <AAA> shriphani  yeah, for i in find /foo -name .mpg; do oggenc yada yada
[08:21] <Cigarette> the laptop should be .102
[08:21] <shriphani> now i cant make shell scripts
[08:22] <sixtsixfps> hi, i have a digital video camera that connects via firewire (DV-video) and USB (for the picture memory card)
[08:22] <nocarrier> Cigarette: ok, type this:  ifconfig wlan0 192.168.2.102
[08:22] <AAA> shriphani  so make now later =p
[08:22] <khaije1> AAA: i don't understand, do you know what i could google to find more about this and other unix group conventions?
[08:22] <sixtsixfps> i have plugged the USB in and set it to picture mode but its not being detected by ubuntu
[08:22] <nocarrier> Cigarette: then type:  route ad default gw 192.168.2.1
[08:22] <shriphani> AAA, any other converters ?
[08:22] <nocarrier> route add default gw 192.168.2.1
[08:22] <nocarrier> sorry
[08:22] <AAA> khaije1  "/etc/passwd" +shadow +linux
[08:22] <khaije1> thx AAA
[08:22] <nocarrier> jason: try typing ndiswrapper without anything after it
[08:23] <AAA> shriphani  mencoder
[08:23] <nocarrier> oops
[08:23] <nocarrier> ndiswrapper -l
[08:23] <shriphani> thats cli as well ?
[08:23] <AAA> shriphani  nothing gui off the top
[08:23] <AAA> :)
[08:23] <nocarrier> sorry... very late... 2nd time i did that tonight
[08:23] <shriphani> hey audacity ???
[08:23] <jason> nocarrier: that's what I did
[08:23] <shriphani> wont that do the job ?
[08:23] <nocarrier> jason: sorry, ndiswrapper -l
[08:23] <AAA> shriphani  I don't think that does mp3 > ogg, not the last time _I_ used it
[08:24] <jason> Installed ndis drivers:
[08:24] <jason> oem3            driver present
[08:24] <shriphani> AAA, ok
[08:24] <nocarrier> oem3?
[08:24] <nocarrier> what type of card is it?
[08:24] <jason> broadcom 4319
[08:24] <AAA> shriphani  just google oggenc mp3 and find a slick command line and go
[08:24] <jason> I thought I installed the driver and firmware
[08:24] <Cigarette> nocarrier, still no internet...
[08:24] <shriphani> ok
[08:24] <jason> I followed the guide on the wiki
[08:24] <alienseer23> what is the command to mount? I seem to keep missing the bullseye?
[08:24] <AAA> shriphani  abcde is a badass cd ripper into ogg (by default) by not mp3>ogg
[08:24] <jason> typed, "sudo modprobe bcm43xx"
[08:24] <nocarrier> hmm... on the working computer, type route
[08:25] <Cigarette> ah. i was off by a digit
[08:25] <nocarrier> jason: then you are not using ndiswrapper... the 4319 does NOT work with the bcm43xx driver
[08:25] <Cigarette> its .0 for the gateway
[08:25] <gdb> alienseer23: mount what?  a parition?  the command is "mount"
[08:25] <AAA> Cigarette  what!
[08:25] <nocarrier> Cigarette: no.... .0 represents a network
[08:25] <AAA> that is a network address
[08:25] <Cigarette> um.....
[08:26] <jason> nocarrier, which driver do I need?
[08:26] <AAA> .255 broadcast
[08:26] <Cigarette> wait no.... gateway is .1
[08:26] <AAA> .1-244 ip's
[08:26] <AAA> yeah
[08:26] <Cigarette> ok...
[08:26] <AAA> er
[08:26] <nocarrier> Cigarette: so your IP is 192.168.0.101
[08:26] <AAA> 254
[08:26] <nocarrier> Cigarette: the one you need
[08:27] <Cigarette> yes my ip on this computer is .101
[08:27] <AAA> Cigarette  route -n
[08:27] <AAA> I bet you have another device (eth0) hosing your routing table
[08:27] <nocarrier> AAA... no offense, but please don't confuse...
[08:28] <Tonren> Hey guys, I'm trying to install Dapper from a ShipIt CD, and it errors out with "Buffer I/O Error on Device HDC, logical block ..." before I even get to the Ubuntu Welcome Screen where I can change boot settings
[08:28] <nocarrier> Cigarette: so your IP needs to be 192.168.0.101 not 192.168.2.101
[08:28] <nocarrier> correct?
[08:28] <Cigarette> no... its 2.101
[08:28] <nocarrier> jason: i will give you mine that works
[08:28] <Cigarette> i can change it in the router though
[08:28] <AAA> dude. paste your route -n
[08:28] <nocarrier> Cigarette: no
[08:29] <nocarrier> omg... i have been working with him for 20 minutes... can I finish please?
[08:29] <Cigarette> Kernel IP routing table
[08:29] <Cigarette> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
[08:29] <Cigarette> 192.168.2.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0
[08:29] <Cigarette> 0.0.0.0         192.168.2.1     0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth0
[08:29] <hawkaloogie> don't paste it in the channel...
[08:29] <Cigarette> ah sry
[08:29] <AAA> Cigarette  can your ping 192.168.2.1 ?
[08:29] <nocarrier> ok, you help him them
[08:29] <AAA> Cigarette  is this a wireless card? hrm.
[08:29] <YoussefAssad> really, it's in the topic. The topic's only a line or 2
[08:30] <enyc> default route via 192.168.2.1 ....
[08:30] <nocarrier> jason: I can send you mine
[08:30] <marsswell> como Breezy to Dapper?
[08:30] <Tonren> Guys, I'm looking at it more, and I think the welcome screen where you can select Check Disk for Errors, etc. is screwing up.. it's all random colors.  What could be causing that?
[08:30] <Cigarette> yea i can ping that
[08:30] <nocarrier> ok, what are your DNS servers then?
[08:30] <AAA> Cigarette  can you ping google.com or 209.98.98.98 ?
[08:30] <nocarrier> you need to echo those to your /etc/resolv.conf
[08:30] <steveO_> DNS servers -> /etc/resolv.conf
[08:30] <Cigarette> yea on the computer that works
[08:31] <alienseer23> nothing is happening when I try to mount?
[08:31] <AAA> Cigarette  the name or the IP?
[08:31] <nocarrier> Cigarette: can you ping 198.31.248.3
[08:31] <nocarrier> ?
[08:31] <alienseer23> is there a way to reset mount points? would that help me?
[08:31] <nocarrier> I love how people just jump in when you have everything under control....
[08:31] <AAA> yeah, they are right. your resolv.conf is bad
[08:31] <valehru> Is there a notification list around that lets you know when the Nvidia drivers are updated?
[08:31] <AAA> nocarrier  boo
[08:32] <nocarrier> I got his wlan up and running, and when that gets all done, THEN everyone perks up...
[08:32] <AAA> nocarrier  don't worry, you still r00l
[08:32] <Cigarette> i can ping the ip's but not google.com
[08:32] <AAA> Cigarette  then fix your resov.conf like everyone says
[08:32] <nocarrier> on the comp that works, type cat /etc/resolv.conf
[08:33] <Cigarette> ok
[08:33] <jason> nocarrier, you use the 4319?
[08:33] <nocarrier> Cigarette: better yet, just type:  sudo dhclient wlan0
[08:33] <jason> are you going to dcc send it?
[08:33] <nocarrier> jason: yea... gotta compress it really quick
[08:34] <Tonren> Hey guys, the welcome screen on my live CD is garbled... what can I do to fix it?
[08:34] <Cigarette> thats what i wanted in the first place... dhcp to work
[08:35] <AAA> nocarrier  wlan0 wasn't even in that route -n he pasted. but he could still ping outside IP's? hrm.
[08:35] <nocarrier> Cigarette: hehe.. like I said it's late
[08:35] <Cigarette> ping google.com works now
[08:35] <nocarrier> Cigarette: congrats
[08:35] <Cigarette> thanks y'all
[08:35] <Cigarette> i appreciate it
[08:36] <AAA> so where the lleh is wlan0?
[08:36] <Cigarette> its been there
[08:36] <alienseer23> my partitions wont mount :(
[08:36] <Cigarette> for like... 10 minutes
[08:36] <Cigarette> lol
[08:36] <jason> thanks nocarrier I'll gotta take a break here but I set XChat to auto-accept
[08:36] <alienseer23> !Mount
[08:36] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[08:36] <AAA> Cigarette  in your term ;)
[08:36] <nocarrier> jason: k
[08:36] <Cigarette> huh?
[08:37] <AAA> Cigarette  you pasted your routing table, it did not include wlan0
[08:37] <AAA>  /scrollback
[08:37] <Cigarette> that was from the computer that worked... thats what you asked for
[08:38] <Cigarette> cant paste from a computer with no internet hahahaha
[08:38] <Tonren> Hey guys, I'm trying to install Dapper from a ShipIt CD, and it errors out with "Buffer I/O Error on Device HDC, logical block ..." after I boot, even with noapic nolapic
[08:38] <AAA> Cigarette  I do that all the time
[08:38] <Cigarette> .........how?
[08:38] <Cigarette> lol
[08:38] <AAA> LAN + screen
[08:39] <dibblego> what is "user mode" linux that is used on linode.com ?
[08:39] <Cigarette> oh wait... so.. im not gonna have to go through all this again when i restart my computer am i?
[08:39] <Cigarette> cuz i'd rather smash the computer
[08:39] <Cigarette> with a big hammer
[08:39] <AAA> Cigarette  /etc/network/interfaces is the file all that goes in
[08:40] <Cigarette> do i need to configure ndiswrapper to start automatically?
[08:40] <nocarrier> Cigarette: no
[08:40] <Cigarette> k
[08:40] <AAA> Cigarette  you need the modules in /etc/modules
[08:40] <nocarrier> Cigarette: but you do need wifi-radar
[08:40] <AAA> wavemon
[08:40] <nocarrier> AAA: already there
[08:41] <nocarrier> jason: you there? dcc is not autoaccepting
[08:41] <Cigarette> nocarrier, i'm getting that like... now
[08:41] <nocarrier> sweet
[08:41] <AAA> Cigarette  you should look at your interfaces file cause if it ain't right, in will not auto start
[08:41] <Tonren> Hey guys, the welcome screen on my live CD is garbled... what can I do to fix it?
[08:42] <AAA> you set wlan0 to auto with your wireless-essid and wireless-key ?
[08:42] <nocarrier> AAA: no key
[08:42] <Cigarette> i think i set it to auto, how can i check?
[08:42] <AAA> Cigarette  for the third time /etc/network/interfaces
[08:43] <Cigarette> lol
[08:43] <Cigarette> thanks im slow
[08:43] <avallach> is it possible for a video card to go bad, but only have issues with the nvidia driver, and work fine with the nv driver?  cuz im running out of ideas here.
[08:45] <jon_> i cant get the themes i dl to install
[08:45] <AAA> avallach  it is always hardware when you run out of ideas ;(
[08:45] <digitalpenguin> where do i get the redhat-cluster-suite and the system-config-cluster
[08:45] <Cigarette> there is nothing there about wlan0
[08:45] <Cigarette> in interfaces
[08:45] <AAA> Cigarette  don't take my word for it, but if you reboot now, your device will not auto connect
[08:45] <jon_> it says the file format is invalid
[08:45] <Cigarette> i figured
[08:45] <Cigarette> AAA, how can i set it up to autoconnect?
[08:46] <AAA> Cigarette  basically copy the eth0 lines, change eth0 to wlan0 and change the IP and add wireless-essid foo after it and save
[08:46] <AAA> Cigarette  and append wlan0 after eth0 on the auto line
[08:46] <AAA> Cigarette  then ifconfig wlan0 up
[08:47] <AAA> Cigarette  you can add fancy maping to ifup wlan0 (way slicker than the fc3 way) but you don't have to
[08:47] <Tonren> Hey guys, I'm trying to install Dapper from a ShipIt CD, and it errors out with "Buffer I/O Error on Device HDC, logical block ..." after I boot, even with noapic nolapic
[08:47] <digitalpenguin> where may I aquire the redhat-cluster-suite and the system-config-cluster
[08:48] <Cigarette> AAA, i can barely follow what you've told me. i'm very new to linux...
[08:56] <AAA> Cigarette  paste your /etc/network/interfaces file to the paste-bin
[08:56] <AAA> Cigarette  I will tell you what to change
[08:56] <Cigarette> ok
[08:56] <Tonren> Hasn't ANYONE heard of this error before?
[08:56] <Cigarette> its pasted
[08:56] <Skoebidoe> hello
[08:56] <minerale|away> how can I count the lines in an output ?
[08:56] <fork> is ubuntu's hardware detection better then that of debian's?
[08:56] <AAA> minerale|away  cat /foo | wc -l
[08:56] <minerale|away> thanks
[08:56] <AAA> fork  same
[08:56] <Cigarette> AAA, its at the ubuntu pastebin btw
[08:56] <AAA> fork  different modules and such
[08:56] <AAA> !paste-bin
[08:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about paste-bin - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:56] <AAA> !pastebin
[08:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:56] <Cigarette>  its at that one
[08:56] <Cigarette> lol
[08:56] <AAA> any link will do
[08:56] <hyphenated> Cigarette: normally after you paste something in, you tell us the direct link to your entry
[08:56] <AAA> localhost:/usr/share/doc/
[08:56] <Cigarette> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19851
[08:56] <llama32> W: GPG error: http://debian.meebey.net ./ Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 7127E5ABEEF946C8         <-------- How do i fix this?
[08:56] <Cigarette> sry bout that
[08:56] <Paladine> llama32, ignore it, it is just a warning
[08:56] <Paladine> use sudo apt-get install whateverpackage
[08:56] <AAA> Cigarette  line 5 add wlan0
[08:56] <Cigarette> right after lo?
[08:56] <AAA> Cigarette  line 13 add map wlan0
[08:56] <AAA> Cigarette  line 17 is a new line hold
[08:56] <jon_> when i try to install a theme, it says i need the file to be tar.gz  but then when i click install it says invalid file format
[08:56] <jon_> what do i do?
[08:56] <AAA> iface wlan0 inet dhcp :: wireless-essid foo  [on two new lines without the ::] 
[08:56] <Cigarette> ok
[08:56] <AAA> Cigarette  s/foo/yourrealAP
[08:56] <jon_> please help me
[08:56] <jon_> i found a badass theme
[08:56] <Cigarette> AAA, what
[08:56] <AAA> substitute where I said foo for your real access point.......
[08:56] <Cigarette> ok
[08:56] <Cigarette> jon_, go to your themes and click install theme and paste the link to the tgz in the box
[08:56] <Cigarette> thats how i do it.
[08:56] <jon_> paste the link to the webpages its on?
[08:57] <jon_> what link
[08:57] <Cigarette> no paste the link to the download
[08:57] <Cigarette> where you download the theme
[08:57] <Cigarette> its a tar.gz file right?
[08:57] <jon_> it says file format invalid
[08:57] <jon_> yes
[08:58] <AAA> Cigarette  do sudo ifconfig wlan0 down ; ifconfig wlan0 up
[08:58] <AAA> Cigarette  and sudo on the second one too
[08:58] <Cigarette> AAA, explain that s/foo/yourrealAP thing to me. that goes in my interfaces file?
[08:59] <AAA> Cigarette  NO. that is short hand for substitute this/for that
[08:59] <Cigarette> oh
[08:59] <Cigarette> thanks
[08:59] <llama32> is it possible to do a [minimal]  install of breezy, and completely update it to dapper using apt?
[08:59] <AAA> llama32  get the debian sarge net install cd !
[09:00] <AAA> llama32  but that aint ubuntu
[09:00] <llama32> will it support dialup though?
[09:00] <digitalpenguin> can anyone help me with getting redhat-cluster-suite
[09:00] <AAA> llama32  yeah, its DEBIAN!
[09:00] <llama32> lol
[09:01] <poddo> is there any program that will run widgets for ubuntu?
[09:01] <YoussefAssad> you said the D word...
[09:01] <AAA> llama32  it is a 60M minimal install, it rocks for 1purpose servers
[09:01] <hawkaloogie> poddo, like gdesklets?
[09:01] <poddo> uh, sure.  ill look it up, thanks
[09:01] <YoussefAssad> erh, gdesklets... I poop on gdesklets
[09:01] <AAA> YoussefAssad  ubuntu _IS_ debian
[09:02] <hawkaloogie> yeah, gdesklets is horribly mismanaged
[09:02] <AAA> hawkaloogie  and bloated
[09:02] <YoussefAssad> AAA: I know
[09:02] <Tsukino> does anyone in here have experience working with the acpi?
[09:02] <poddo> aaa, any other recomendation then?
[09:02] <digitalpenguin> so can any of you guys help me with redhat-cluster-suite
[09:02] <YoussefAssad> poddo: try adeskpets, or superkaramba
[09:02] <AAA> poddo  I don't know gui
[09:02] <YoussefAssad> s/pets/lets/
[09:02] <poddo> ok, thanks
[09:02] <converted> isn't karamba for kde?
[09:03] <AAA> digitalpenguin  rh != ubuntu || debian
[09:03] <YoussefAssad> converted: it originates in the KDE project, yes
[09:03] <digitalpenguin> ?
[09:03] <Tonren> anyone get Cave Story running in Wine?
[09:03] <digitalpenguin> < new to linux
[09:03] <Cigarette> AAA, thanks for your help
[09:03] <digitalpenguin> AAA im having a problem getting java5
[09:03] <AAA> digitalpenguin  roothack ain't ubuntu
[09:03] <digitalpenguin> it keeps giving me an error
[09:03] <digitalpenguin> E: clvm: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 3
[09:03] <digitalpenguin> E: redhat-cluster-suite: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[09:03] <digitalpenguin> E: system-config-cluster: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[09:03] <AAA> Cigarette  did sudo ifconfig wlan0 up work?
[09:04] <AAA> digitalpenguin  ubuntu doesn't support redhat
[09:04] <digitalpenguin> ah
[09:04] <AAA> digitalpenguin  get debian
[09:04] <digitalpenguin> so how come i get that when i try to install alarm clock and java
[09:04] <YoussefAssad> digitalpenguin: I think apt-get is usually quite verbose. You're missing a package somewhere, try to figure out which one it is
[09:04] <Tsukino> cat /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/info
[09:04] <Tsukino> processor id:            0
[09:04] <Tsukino> acpi id:                 0
[09:04] <Tsukino> bus mastering control:   yes
[09:04] <Tsukino> power management:        yes
[09:04] <Tsukino> throttling control:      no
[09:04] <Tsukino> limit interface:         no
[09:04] <AAA> digitalpenguin  did you alter your /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[09:05] <Tsukino> oops, didn't think it'd add all those lines
[09:05] <digitalpenguin> nope
[09:05] <YoussefAssad> AAA: apt-cache search redhat
[09:05] <digitalpenguin> well i did add the universe
[09:05] <digitalpenguin> and metaverse
[09:05] <AAA> YoussefAssad  ok, I don't support redhat...
[09:05] <Cigarette> AAA, it made my internet stop working
[09:05] <YoussefAssad> AAA: it's in the ubuntu sources, clever person
[09:06] <AAA> Cigarette  how where you getting on the INet? paste your route -n now
[09:06] <Amaranth> what?
[09:06] <digitalpenguin> i just want the alarm clock to work
[09:06] <Cigarette> i cant paste my route -n, it's not online
[09:06] <AAA> YoussefAssad  I just can't type redhat* at a command line
[09:06] <Tonren> man... this chat fails tonight
[09:06] <digitalpenguin> AAA why would alarm clock keep wanting redhat if its not supported
[09:07] <YoussefAssad> AAA: you'll grow out of it
[09:07] <Cigarette> aaa, i was on the inet because my wlan was up
[09:07] <AAA> digitalpenguin  like gtk/kde alarm clock?
[09:07] <YoussefAssad> AAA: a step back; what task are yo trying to accomplish?
[09:07] <digitalpenguin> ah i just read that
[09:07] <digitalpenguin> it needs KDE
[09:07] <digitalpenguin> im a gnome person
[09:07] <AAA> Cigarette  then you brought it down, so bring it up with ifconfig wlan0 up
[09:07] <AAA> YoussefAssad  world domination
[09:07] <digitalpenguin> i wanted to run KAlarm
[09:07] <Cigarette> i did, and it doesnt work
[09:08] <digitalpenguin> thanks guys
[09:08] <AAA> Cigarette  so what does iwconfig wlan0 say ?
[09:08] <scoutseed> anyone know how i can succesfully change my resolution to 1280x1024?? i already read the guides online they dont help at all
[09:08] <YoussefAssad> digitalpenguin: I know KDE is heavy on the resources, but to need clustering software to run an alarm...
[09:09] <Cigarette> all of my AP's info, other stuff...
[09:09] <AAA> Cigarette  so dhclient wlan0
[09:09] <digitalpenguin> ya its ok ill just search the net for a gnome based alarm clock
[09:09] <digitalpenguin> i needed one for schooo
[09:09] <digitalpenguin> school*
[09:10] <AAA> Cigarette  did you get an address?
[09:10] <YoussefAssad> digitalpenguin: if a comand line alarm would do, why don't you bring up man cron and have a look at that?
[09:10] <Cigarette> AAA, it works
[09:10] <YoussefAssad> digitalpenguin: command line works in gnome :)
[09:10] <digitalpenguin> please explain
[09:11] <AAA> Cigarette  good, so if you can ifconfig wlan0 down and ifconfig wlan0 up and it still works, it will work on  boot
[09:11] <YoussefAssad> (despite the gnome team's best efforts to stamp out the command line)
[09:11] <fork> is it possible to set ubuntu to use  debian's unstable packages?
[09:11] <crimsun> source packages, yes. binary packages, not recommended.
[09:11] <YoussefAssad> digitalpenguin: cron is the linux system scheduler. You can schedule things, say the playing of an mp3 file at a certain time (i.e. alarm)
[09:11] <scoutseed> no one knows how to run 1280x1024 with a nvidia card?
[09:11] <fork> crimsun, why binary arent recommanded?
[09:12] <digitalpenguin> ya but ive never done it i mean
[09:12] <DanaG> My CPU's SpeedStep (EIST, actually) does not work.
[09:12] <Cigarette> AAA, it doesnt work on ifconfig wlan0 up
[09:12] <DanaG> It tells me I have "8 states between 1.83GHz and 1.83GHz".
[09:13] <crimsun> fork: because we use a different toolchain, which produces slightly different binaries, and combining binaries from different non-ubuntu repositories may cause mysterious failures.
[09:13] <anderbubble> could someone recommend a resource to get 3d acelleration to work with a radeon 9600xt?
[09:13] <YoussefAssad> digitalpenguin: well, if you'd accept reading for about 15 minutes to understand cron, then you could do your own alarm clock as well as learn one of the most useful linux commands. Or you might just do like you said, a gnome alarm clock. Whichever you prefer
[09:13] <digitalpenguin> youssefassad i sent you a PM
[09:13] <YoussefAssad> digitalpenguin: I prefer keeping it in the channel :)
[09:13] <digitalpenguin> ok
[09:13] <digitalpenguin> well ill read
[09:13] <digitalpenguin> its all good
[09:13] <sirbijan> hi ppl
[09:13] <BeBraw> how can i set desktop icon to open a program via terminal?
[09:13] <Cigarette> AAA, it works after i do dhclient wlan0
[09:13] <YoussefAssad> digitalpenguin: Okay. Give me a second, see if I can find you a good page
[09:13] <digitalpenguin> thank you good sir!
[09:14] <sirbijan> i have a newbie question, I'm mostly used to "ll" command in Fedora that's equal to "ls -l"
[09:14] <poddo> whats the reccomended directory to put thigns that im downloading.  say i download an app, where should i untar it to?
[09:14] <sirbijan> but we don't have that in ubuntu
[09:14] <AAA> Cigarette  check iwconfig wlan0 and make sure you have a link (run wavemon in another terminal too) then make sure you have an ip ifconfig wlan0
[09:14] <sirbijan> how can I add it? which file should I edit?
[09:14] <Tonren> hey guys, I can't set "Enable virtual desktop" in my WineCFG.  anyone run into this before?
[09:14] <Jowi> poddo: there's no default. create one that suits you
[09:15] <nearfar> I have DVD ripped .vob files. Can anyone suggest a software that cuts certain parts of the video?
[09:15] <AAA> nearfar  mencoder!
[09:15] <Cigarette> AAA, i dont have wavemon
[09:15] <poddo> ok.  i didnt know if there was a "default univeraslly accepted, you'rean00bifyoudontusethisfolder" option
[09:15] <nearfar> AAA: any GUI?
[09:15] <Jowi> poddo: if you want the app to be available to everyone, you can use the /opt
[09:15] <Cigarette> but i have 100/100 link
[09:15] <poddo> jowi, thanks
[09:15] <AAA> Cigarette  apt-get install wavemon (sudo)
[09:15] <Jowi> poddo: if it is just for your own user, you can use whatever you want though
[09:16] <poddo> ok.  ill use opt since its empty :-)
[09:16] <Fracture> poddo: I usually use /tmp
[09:16] <nearfar> because, I want to select particular scenes and 'paste' then as single movie, AAA
[09:16] <AAA> nearfar  dvd::rip
[09:16] <nearfar> AAA: I have the DVD already ripped
[09:16] <Fracture> poddo: then, once I work out if I want to keep the app, move it somewhere else
[09:16] <AAA> nearfar  dvdrip I think the pkg is
[09:16] <nearfar> I only have the ripped files (downloaded via torrent)
[09:16] <AAA> nearfar  dvdrip
[09:16] <nocti_> where can i download a pkg list (like the one in /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[09:16] <nearfar> will try
[09:17] <cocos> i have a problem after a fresh install my sound worked perfect but i just rebooted it this morgen and i have no sound anymore.. i already checkd whit alsomixer everything is up..
[09:17] <AAA> nearfar  it uses transcode instead of mencoder
[09:17] <Cigarette> AAA, wavemon is cool!
[09:17] <AAA> Cigarette  :)
[09:17] <Fracture> !wavemon
[09:17] <ubotu> I know nothing about wavemon - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:17] <nearfar> AAA: I hope I can 'drag' and select certain scenes in the movie using dvdrip
[09:17] <tsume> Cigarette: is that a digimon?
[09:17] <Cigarette> haha no
[09:17] <Cigarette> wifi tool
[09:17] <tsume> oh
[09:18] <cocos> could someone please help me?
[09:18] <Fracture> cocos: I have the same issue
[09:18] <Fracture> cocos: had sound yesterday, don't now
[09:18] <AAA> Fracture  try alsamixer in a terminal
[09:18] <cocos> Fracture: strange.. dit you ever had it before?
[09:18] <YoussefAssad> digitalpenguin: try this out for starters:  http://www.clickmojo.com/code/cron-tutorial.html
[09:19] <Fracture> AAA: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[09:19] <Jowi> cocos: are the cables plugged in properly? (stupid but good question)
[09:19] <AAA> Fracture  aumix
[09:19] <Cigarette> AAA, thanks for your help. i'll just do dhclient wlan0 when i need to get online i guess
[09:19] <Fracture> AAA : aumix: command not found
[09:19] <sirbijan> hello? does anyone see me?
[09:19] <Fracture> sirbijan: yep
[09:19] <AAA> Cigarette  if you made it say dhcp it should, I think you have a stale lease
[09:19] <Cigarette> i need to go to bed though. its 3am
[09:19] <Jowi> everyone sirbijan
[09:20] <Cigarette> oh
[09:20] <Cigarette> ok
[09:20] <AAA> Fracture  bollocks, what did you change since yesterday?
[09:20] <digitalpenguin> youssefassad: thank you ill read that real quick and get back to you
[09:20] <Cigarette> oh man i know whats wrong
[09:20] <cocos> Jowi: yeah ofcourse i already doubble checked it
[09:20] <Cigarette> i put dchp instaed of dhcp hahahahahahahahaha
[09:20] <AAA> paste your interfaces file again then dude
[09:20] <AAA> heh
[09:21] <YoussefAssad> digitalpenguin: cheers
[09:21] <Fracture> AAA: I just installed aumix from apt, and it starts and shows me a ncurses volume controller.. but it doesn't seem to do anything.  I did apt-get upgrade from dapper overnight
[09:21] <Cigarette> ok.... i'll let you get a laugh out of this one
[09:21] <nomin> what is a good program for making and editing videos?
[09:21] <Jowi> cocos: do you have esd running? if so you can try to kill it
[09:21] <digitalpenguin> youssefassad brb after i attempt this
[09:21] <AAA> Fracture  and you rebooted? are other sounds working? can you change the mixer settings?
[09:21] <YoussefAssad> digitalpenguin: go for it
[09:22] <Jowi> !sound
[09:22] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[09:22] <cocos> Jowi: doesnt sound familiar how can i check it?
[09:22] <Jowi> cocos: ps -A | grep esd
[09:22] <AAA> Fracture  check your logs for sound errors like grep snd /var/log/syslog
[09:23] <cocos> Jowi:  4868 ?        00:00:00 esd
[09:23] <Fracture> AAA: cheers, I shall do.  Thanks heaps for your help
[09:23] <asabil> hello all
[09:23] <AAA> Fracture  or just tail /var/log/syslog
[09:23] <Cigarette> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19852
[09:23] <Cigarette> laugh it up
[09:23] <Jowi> cocos: sudo killall esd
[09:23] <Cigarette> :)
[09:23] <asabil> anyone using gdmXnest here ?
[09:23] <cocos> Jowi: done
[09:23] <AAA> Fracture  or less /var/log/syslog AND READ EVERY LINE :)
[09:23] <asabil> i have troubles with it
[09:23] <cocos> Jowi: now what/
[09:24] <Jowi> cocos: try "play /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav"
[09:24] <AAA> silence > advanced sound
[09:24] <cocos> Jowi: bash: play: command not found
[09:25] <bilss_> hi folks
[09:25] <cocos> Jowi: yeah it works now!
[09:25] <cocos> awsome
[09:25] <Jowi> cocos: ummm.... do you have playsound
[09:25] <cocos> thanks alot
[09:25] <Jowi> np cocos
[09:25] <cocos> Jowi: but what was esd?
[09:25] <Jowi> cocos: Enlightenment Sound Daemon
[09:25] <Jowi> cocos: set it up to use alsa instead. read here:
[09:25] <Jowi> !sound
[09:25] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[09:26] <AAA> esd == trouble
[09:26] <bilss_> DBO: who's it going man, coffee still as good as ever!!
[09:26] <poddo> if i want to swtich to KDE, is it easier to jsut uninstall, and then reinstall kubuntu, or can i follow these instructions and jsut download packages for it?
[09:26] <poddo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE
[09:27] <AAA> poddo  do you have >3G free space? install it and use it at your leisure, keep your same desktop
[09:27] <DanaG> argh, my sound stopped working.
[09:27] <Cigarette> AAA, did you see what i pasted?
[09:27] <Tonren> anyone get Cave Story running in Wine?
[09:27] <jon_> how do i install a theme?
[09:27] <AAA> Cigarette  no
[09:27] <Jowi> poddo: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" will give you kde
[09:27] <poddo> ive got lots of free space, AAA.    thank you aaa and jowi
[09:27] <Cigarette> http://paste/ubuntu-nl.org/1985
[09:27] <Cigarette> ah... bad linkage
[09:27] <Lynoure> DanaG: after what? And all sound or just speakers?
[09:28] <AAA> poddo  then YES, install kde and fluxbox and wm and all that jazz
[09:28] <Cigarette> AAA, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19852
[09:28] <poddo> cool, thanks
[09:29] <bilss_> need some info on how to change grub on boot at the moment its controled by OS on hda3 which is to be deleted. need to change back to hda0
[09:29] <cocos> Jowi: owke thanks i will
[09:29] <AAA> Cigarette  and so you took care of the error? dchp -->> DHCP
[09:29] <DanaG> My onboard HD Audio needed some position_fix setting, but I can't find it.
[09:29] <Jowi> bilss_: you want a permanent or a temporary solution?
[09:29] <AAA> DanaG  move it to cable select
[09:29] <bilss_> ompaul; morning
[09:29] <Cigarette> no. i'm about to
[09:30] <cocos> Jowi: owke done thanks im gonna watch a movie now ;)
[09:30] <ompaul> bilss_, morning
[09:30] <bilss_> Jowi: permanent
[09:30] <DanaG> I can't find how to unload and reload the snd_hda_intel module.
[09:31] <AAA> Cigarette  that is your auto-up problem
[09:31] <jason> no carrier, the file won't transfer for some reason, and I thought the bcm_43xx driving won't work for the 4319?
[09:31] <holycow> sudo rmod modulename
[09:31] <holycow> sudo modprobe modulename
[09:31] <AAA> rmmod
[09:31] <jason> sorry nocarrier,
[09:31] <DanaG> It's in use.
[09:31] <holycow> sudo lsmod will list modules
[09:31] <nocarrier> jason: np...
[09:31] <Jowi> bilss_: you need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst, find the row with the boot you wish to change and change both the "root" and the "kernel root=" options
[09:32] <holycow> DanaG, *hmmm* thats outside my knowledge
[09:32] <snarfer> Is there a general chat for Ubuntu?
[09:32] <m0nkey> whats the command to install all source code avalible?
[09:32] <AAA> kernel root = /dev/null
[09:32] <snarfer> I recall there being one.....
[09:32] <AAA> no
[09:32] <Cigarette> AAA, i still have to do dhclient
[09:32] <holycow> DanaG, if its a driver for hard drivers you wont be able unload it as the os is probably mounted off of it
[09:32] <bilss_> Jowi: ok i will take a look
[09:32] <Jowi> bilss_: but, best thing is to create a new entry and use that just in case you screw it up.
[09:32] <silentwf> hi guys is this true about Ubuntu DNS Cache? -> http://www.zoomcities.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=1228
[09:32] <AAA> Cigarette  ifdown wlan0; ifup wlan0
[09:32] <jason> nocarrier, I don't know why but sometimes I have trouble with dcc transfers in xchat, it just stalls at "connect"
[09:32] <AAA> Cigarette  dhcp
[09:32] <Jowi> bilss_: worst thing ever is to have an unbootable system.
[09:33] <jason> nocarrier, can you email it to dhansen@mail.saabnet.com ?
[09:33] <nocarrier> yea
[09:33] <Jowi> bilss_: copy the entry you need and then change it. remove the original one after you see that it works
[09:33] <m0nkey> whats the command to install all source code avalible? again
[09:33] <AAA> m0nkey  all?
[09:33] <silentwf> anyone??
[09:33] <m0nkey> yes
[09:34] <Cigarette> AAA, ifdown returns this
[09:34] <AAA> m0nkey  holy crap. apt-get install all*.src? haha no idea
[09:34] <YoussefAssad> silentwf: I tried that. Extremely effective. I'm on 512 1:4 ADSL, very noticable speedup
[09:34] <silentwf> i just want to confirm if this post is true about Ubuntu DNS Cache -> http://www.zoomcities.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=1228
[09:34] <Cigarette> "couldnt read interfacer file"
[09:34] <nocarrier> jason: on its way
[09:34] <Cigarette> interfaces*
[09:35] <AAA> Cigarette  then just do ifconfig wlan0 down; ifconfig wlan0 up
[09:35] <Cigarette> it just knocks me offline
[09:35] <Cigarette> i did it after i fixed my file
[09:35] <DanaG> Aah, I fixed it.
[09:35] <m0nkey> how about all the sorce coda that ill need?
[09:35] <silentwf> thanks Yousseff, good to know someone have tried it! :)
[09:35] <jason> thanks nocarrier
[09:35] <nocarrier> np
[09:35] <Cigarette> nocarrier, i couldnt get wifi-radar. what repo is it on?
[09:35] <YoussefAssad> silentwf: it's real easy to do too, don't worry about it
[09:35] <AAA> m0nkey  for the linux kernel? there is _a lot_ of source code out there dude
[09:36] <nocarrier> lemme look
[09:36] <silentwf> @youssef yeah the moderators of zoomcities will help me out too.. im a newbie ubuntu user :)
[09:36] <m0nkey> i want enough sorce code so i can install programs without being propted
[09:37] <Jowi> m0nkey: your question does not make sense. can you rephrase it?
[09:37] <jroes> hi, this is going to sound stupid, but how do I copy text from a window (e.g. Firefox) into emacs?
[09:37] <jroes> I can copy text from emacs to another application just fine, but the other way around doesn't work for some reason
[09:37] <nocarrier> Cigarette: all it says is networking (universe)
[09:37] <Jowi> jroes: highlight it in firefox. click on the emacs window and middle click
[09:38] <Cigarette> ok
[09:38] <Cigarette> found it
[09:38] <m0nkey> i just want to install the sorce code for the standered librarys and GCC for compiling programs
[09:38] <jroes> Jowi: weird.  is there any way to rebind that?  my middle click is crappy
[09:38] <Cigarette> i cant wait to go to sleep....
[09:38] <Jowi> m0nkey: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:38] <Cigarette> its past 3:30
[09:38] <Cigarette> O_O
[09:39] <m0nkey> thanks
[09:39] <anderbubble> I have an ati radeon 9600xt, and I have installed the fglrx driver, but I still don't have 3d acelleration, and the resolutions available for selection don't match those listed in xorg.conf. Any suggestions?
[09:39] <Cigarette> nocarrier, do you know anything about wep cracking? like what chipsets are good?
[09:40] <Jowi> jroes: the middle-click paste is built in into Xorg. not sure if you can rebind it.
[09:40] <nocarrier> Cigarette: nope.... sorry
[09:40] <jroes> ahh, actually it's ok.  I forgot I can use both mouse buttons
[09:40] <Cigarette> thanks anyway man
[09:40] <jroes> my middle mouse button is a piece of crap.  I really hate it on this mouse
[09:40] <jroes> thanks Jowi
[09:41] <m0nkey> yeah thanks man
[09:41] <m0nkey> MAN
[09:41] <Jowi> no probs
[09:41] <m0nkey> lol
[09:41] <DanaG> Is there a force-remove option for modules?
[09:41] <DanaG> At least a way to remove all modules up the dependency tree?
[09:41] <DanaG> (or is that down?)
[09:42] <Skoebidoe> hello
[09:42] <jon_> can anyone help me install a theme
[09:43] <Jowi> jon_: what type of theme?
[09:43] <jon_> well i have two different ones, id use either
[09:43] <jon_> one is zip the other is tar.gz
[09:43] <Cigarette> anyone here ever use OpenWRT?
[09:43] <m0nkey> jon_: heres a cool link http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/change_ubuntu_look
[09:43] <Jowi> jon_: unpack the tar.gz file to /home/username/.themes
[09:44] <Skoebidoe> Hi Jon, go to Preferences and then click theme
[09:44] <jon_> when i put the zip in the theme preference tool it says invalid file
[09:44] <Jowi> jon_: theme prefs only take .tar.gz as far as i know
[09:46] <jon_> well i cant get the tar.gz to work
[09:46] <jon_> i dont have a themes folder either
[09:46] <jon_> but i just have it on my desktop
[09:46] <jon_> i followed the help guide with the theme preference tool
[09:47] <Jowi> jon_: create it if it does not exist "mkdir ~/.themes". what kind of theme have you downloaded? gtk, metacity, icon...?
[09:47] <jon_> i think one is metacity and another is gtk2 or something
[09:48] <Jowi> jon_: then you can put both in ~/.themes (you need to unpack them first)
[09:48] <Cigarette> i'm out. thanks for the help!
[09:48] <Jowi> !changethemes
[09:48] <ubotu> Install gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance (KDE)
[09:49] <Jowi> hmmm, that wasn't very helpful...
[09:49] <DanaG> aah, fixed it.
[09:49] <jon_> where are the default themes at?
[09:49] <DanaG> Who says Linux doesn't have to reboot?
[09:49] <DanaG> Is it possible to install Gnome updates through Synaptic while running Gnome?
[09:49] <Jowi> jon_: system wide themes are in /usr/share/themes. personal ones in ~/.themes
[09:49] <DanaG> If not, is there an easy command-line update tool that asks what to update?
[09:49] <holycow> DanaG, it doesn't except for kernel updates.  of course ifyou don't know what you are doing, sure a reboot is a shortcut
[09:50] <DanaG> I had to change the sound driver parameters.
[09:50] <holycow> those were sound drivers? ah neat
[09:50] <Jowi> DanaG: yes, you can update gnome while using it. but you need to log out and log in again for the changes to take effect (no need to reboot)
[09:50] <DanaG> Nice.
[09:51] <holycow> DanaG, what Jowi said.  generally any change to a process requires the restart of that process it self.  in some cases a logout/login is required indeed
[09:51] <DanaG> For my audio, my Sigmatel onboard codec breaks if I don't add "option snd-hda-intel position_fix=1".
[09:51] <crimsun> that's best appended to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[09:52] <crimsun> echo "options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1" |sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[09:52] <jon_> how do i make the folder again?
[09:52] <DanaG> What is tee -a ?
[09:52] <crimsun> it appends to a file.
[09:52] <Jowi> jon_: in a terminal "mkdir ~/.themes"
[09:52] <Kalidarn> ubuntu has lilo & grub on the livecd doesn't it
[09:52] <shark> Hello
[09:52] <crimsun> (necessary because of sudo)
[09:53] <bilss_> Jowi: please look at http://pastebin.ca/118209
[09:53] <DanaG> The thing is, I had to reload the module to make the change take effect.
[09:53] <Kalidarn> so that say if i had a install i could re-install lilo.
[09:53] <DanaG> I have my onboard audio used for system sounds and the offboard used for music.
[09:53] <crimsun> DanaG: the default is not to apply any position probe fix.
[09:53] <jon_> ph
[09:53] <jon_> oh
[09:53] <jon_> i have the folder after all....
[09:53] <DanaG> I must say, I like the Ubuntu startup sound a lot.
[09:53] <DanaG> Now if only I could get the framebuffer in widescreen...
[09:54] <crimsun> which framebuffer?
[09:54] <DanaG> The Linux console.
[09:54] <frogzoo> DanaG: in theory, reboots are only necessary to upgrade the kernel &/or system libraries - in theory
[09:55] <DanaG> The thing is, I couldn't rmmod snd_hda_intel.
[09:55] <crimsun> it's doable, but it's not enabled because it breaks suspend-to-{disk,ram} & resume in many situations.
[09:55] <frogzoo> DanaG: you've tried passing vga=### from grub?
[09:55] <DanaG> There are NO WIDESCREEN STANDARDS.
[09:55] <DanaG> Except a basically unusable 640x400.
[09:55] <crimsun> don't use rmmod; use modprobe -r
[09:55] <holycow> for framebuffer?
[09:55] <holycow> are you insane?
[09:55] <DanaG> Even with vesafb-tng
[09:56] <holycow> why would the framebuffer be unuseable at any resolution?
[09:56] <Jowi> bilss_: looks ok. assuming that hda1 has got the system installed on it. try it. if it works you can remove the hda3 entries.
[09:56] <holycow> just how long are the commands that you are passing?
[09:56] <frogzoo> DanaG: from the grub prompt, try vbeprobe & testvbe
[09:56] <DanaG> 2 things:  640x400 is too low, and if I use it, the consoles are all completely black while X is running and even after it shuts down.
[09:57] <avis> you can add vga=XXX to grub config file ?
[09:57] <Jowi> bilss_: just double-check that the kernel names (vmlinuz-...) are correct on the hda1 partition.
[09:57] <DanaG> I used that "lfb.exe" tool -- there are no widescreen VESA resolutions.
[09:57] <holycow> well, you are welcome to use the windows framebuffer then ... i don't really see the issue
[09:57] <bilss_> Jowi: ok i am not in a live cd at the moment but when i do and i delete hda3  what to do next? yes hda1 is ok
[09:57] <holycow> btw, .exe doesn't work on linux, just so that you know
[09:58] <frogzoo> DanaG: at the very least, you should be able to get 1024x768
[09:58] <DanaG> I used it on a Win98 bootable USB-stick.
[09:58] <steveO_> holycow: wine?
[09:58] <frogzoo> steveO_: fair point
[09:58] <DanaG> Oh, the issue for me is that I can't turn off "stretch image to panel size" (or the like) in the BOS.
[09:58] <frogzoo> also qemu/vmware
[09:59] <DanaG> Therefore, no video driver == stretch.
[09:59] <DanaG> I don't care if it's not the native resolution; I just want the right aspect ratio.
[09:59] <DanaG> 720x450, 1024x640, 1152x720, 1280x800 -- any of these!
[10:00] <wthww_> DanaG: are you on a laptop?
[10:00] <Jowi> bilss_: if you format hda3 no changes need to be made. if you wish to delete hda3 then you need to check that the order of the partitions have not changed (for example if you use SWAP on hda4 you need to change it in /etc/fstab. alternative just comment the swap file out temporary if you know that the partition order will change and reactivate it afterwards)
[10:00] <avis> frogzoo i would like 1024x768 in 16 bit color for terminal.  is that possible ?  i have a 1280x1024 resolution
[10:00] <DanaG> 17 incher -- more of a "notebook" than a "laptop".
[10:01] <frogzoo> avis: stop the boot at the grub prompt & try vbeprobe - then try out the modes with testvbe - something will work
[10:01] <Jowi> bilss_: since all the partitions are on the same HDD there should not be any big issues.
[10:01] <wthww_>   lol.
[10:01] <avis> thank you
[10:02] <len> Hi, where can I add libborqt-6.9-qt2.3.so to my repository?
[10:03] <Jowi> bilss_: to clarify; if your swap used to be hda4 and "fdisk -l" show it as hda3, you need to change the swap entry in /etc/fstab.
[10:03] <nocarrier> can a few people test out http://paste.tampalinux.org
[10:03] <nocarrier> checking to make sure it works
[10:04] <holycow> yes it does
[10:04] <len> sorry i got d/c
[10:04] <nocarrier> k... thanks
[10:04] <nocarrier> can you make a post?
[10:04] <nocarrier> cool
[10:04] <gdb> nocarrier: Seems to work, but I don't like the URL format.
[10:04] <johnlittle> nocarrier: yep looks good
[10:04] <nocarrier> gdb: long urls?
[10:05] <gdb> nocarrier: Yeah, I just prefer the way the Ubuntu pastebin does it.  But whatever work, eh? ;-)
[10:05] <gdb> aka http://pastebin.com/1234
[10:05] <nocarrier> gdb: well, the mod_rewrite isn't working for me tonight, so I will leave well enough alone
[10:05] <gdb> nocarrier: Ah, cool.  That's nifty, though, regardless.
[10:05] <nocarrier> ;)
[10:06] <nocarrier> irc server goes up tomorrow
[10:06] <bilss_> Jowi: what will happen is that the free space that is created by formatting the partiion hda1 wil then become swap partition the swap partition at the moment is very vey small  , see here http://pastebin.ca/118227
[10:06] <dixie> tampalinux? it means you are from FL tampa ?
[10:06] <Lucifer> Hello
[10:06] <nocarrier> dixie: yep
[10:07] <Lucifer> I need Help about Ubuntu
[10:07] <holycow> ask away
[10:07] <bilss_> Jowi: hda3 will become part of hda5 as swap
[10:07] <avis> vbeprobe at a grub command prompt resulted in a hex number starting with 0xFFFFFFFF or something similar saying that mode was unsupported.
[10:07] <avis> only one error message and said that it was unsupported.
[10:09] <llama32> how do i see if that X extension for translucency is installed? i set it to run, but KDE doesn't seem to be using it when i configure it to, and i want to see what the prob is...
[10:09] <linux_user400354> what the hell is wrong with ubuntu? none of my pictures are showing in apache. http://chris1.myftp.org/pictures/
[10:09] <len> but how can I add libborqt-6.9-qt2.3.so to my repositry?
[10:09] <avis> well, luckily i dont use tin as a newsreader anymore so i guess vbeprobe resulting in a error message is a moot point.
[10:09] <len> I need to run DBDesigner
[10:09] <avis> though console can be comfy sometimes
[10:10] <avis> terminal
[10:10] <avis> ack
[10:10] <linux_user400354> i need to switch to debian
[10:10] <holycow> len, you don't.  you find out what package contains that, then what repo holds the package then add that repo
[10:11] <len> holycow: and how do I do that?
[10:11] <holycow> len, try apt-cache search filename or google really
[10:11] <grodius> Can someone help me? I'm trying to get my USB drives to work correctly in ubuntu. It detects them as MUCH smaller than they really are (80GB showing up as 80MB)
[10:12] <len> holycow: kk
[10:12] <holycow> thats pretty much it... or try a kde channel they usually know what qt libraries are required
[10:12] <holycow> grodius, are you sure they are formatted to the full hd?
[10:12] <holycow> grodius, chances are they are formatted at something much smaller than what you thought they were
[10:12] <gdb> linux_user400354: haha
[10:12] <grodius> holycow no it works fine in windows
[10:12] <gdb> linux_user400354: You're *using* Debian.
[10:13] <holycow> grodius, what file system is on them?
[10:13] <grodius> holycow I had 60GB worth of stuff on it, and it all showed up in ubuntu, but it said there was a total of like 80 mb
[10:13] <linux_user400354> gdb, no i am using ubuntshit
[10:13] <holycow> so what is your question again?
[10:13] <gdb> linux_user400354: heh go away
[10:13] <holycow> oh nm
[10:13] <holycow> lol
[10:13] <linux_user400354> heh no
[10:13] <holycow> 80 mb
[10:14] <holycow> doh!
[10:14] <holycow> grodius, my first instinct is to say that either your hd is hosed or your file system is borked.  you need to test trying to copy over the data to linux
[10:14] <holycow> grodius, fat32 i take it?
[10:14] <bilss_> Jowi: did you see the pastebin?
[10:15] <Skoebidoe> how do I use the paste bin?
[10:15] <grodius> holycow yeah, it is. My HD is not broken, my file system is fine. I need to set something up with USB drives. The problem only exists when i put in USB drives and it happens on SEVERAL usb drives.
[10:15] <Skoebidoe> Do I have to install something?
[10:15] <Kalidarn> does ubuntu have lilo on the liveCD so i could re-install it to the MBR of a system?
[10:15] <gdb> bilss_: Just go to the URL and paste your stuff in the text box.  Hit Submit and then copy the URL out of your address bar.
[10:16] <gdb> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[10:16] <frogzoo> avis: vbeprobe craps out?
[10:16] <holycow> grodius, ah! odd.  *hmm* not sure what to suggest on that dude ... my next step would be google or malone bug tracker to see if anyone else had that prob.  sounds like a bug] 
[10:16] <bilss_> gdb: its for Skoebidoe not  bilss
[10:16] <gdb> bilss_: doh!
[10:17] <Skoebidoe> Thx  gdb
[10:17] <OperationWinkle> Hi - would anyone be able to help me get sound out of an Audigy? I've been fighting with it for hours and I'm totally stuck.
[10:17] <gdb> Skoebidoe: Sure thing. :-)
[10:17] <OperationWinkle> Thanks :) I'm trying to get sound out of the digital out - I've tried the switch in Alsamixer, but it doesn't help
[10:17] <YoussefAssad> Kalidarn: I'd be surprised if it didn't
[10:18] <OperationWinkle> Everything else reports that the card is installed & working
[10:18] <Kalidarn> basically i have a client who has a debian box, its ancient
[10:18] <Kalidarn> and i needed a liveCD in which to re-install lilo with.
[10:18] <bilss_> jowi here is new pasrebin to clear thing so hda3 will become part of hda5 swap  http://pastebin.ca/118227
[10:19] <YoussefAssad> Kalidarn: in case the ubuntu liveCD doesn't have lilo, I think damnsmalllinux does
[10:19] <jack__> when i uninstall a pkg, how to auto uninstall it's dpendence pkg if they are't dependence by others.
[10:19] <stanwebber> i have a question about /etc/modules.  is modprobe or insmod used on the modules listed at boot time?
[10:19] <Kalidarn> somone said SLAX did
[10:19] <Kalidarn> so i might  use that.
[10:19] <YoussefAssad> Kalidarn: and when you say debian box, there's no need to further qualify it as ancient. You just committed a tautology
[10:19] <YoussefAssad> Kalidarn: slax probably also has it
[10:19] <jack__> sometimes, it's too many to unintall one by one
[10:19] <Kalidarn> its version 3.0 =)
[10:19] <peace-keeper> what's wrong if after a simple reboot my screen resolution changes to 640x480 and i can't change it back again ??
[10:19] <Kalidarn> and it like has kernel 2.2
[10:19] <Kalidarn> so its like ancient ancient ancient ancient debian box
[10:20] <Kalidarn> perhaps mythological.
[10:20] <Nameeater> stanwebber: I would guess modprobe as its mentioned under 'see also' in the man modules page :)
[10:20] <YoussefAssad> Kalidarn: I was on work in Ramallah a few months ago, discovered an old redhat box playing mail server there with a partner. They didn't even know it was linux, just a box hidden away in the cupboard doing a good job. 2.0.X I think it was
[10:20] <holycow> YoussefAssad, lol
[10:21] <Kalidarn> lol YoussefAssad kinda like this.
[10:21] <holycow> YoussefAssad, not unheard of
[10:21] <YoussefAssad> holycow: indeed :)
[10:21] <Kalidarn> i was just going to tar up root with the perserve permissions switch and copy to another disk using a liveCD to install/recover
[10:21] <jumbers> I really want to kill everybody at Adobe
[10:21] <Kalidarn> just incase the computer blew up, because its so damn acient.
[10:21] <Kalidarn> ancient.
[10:21] <YoussefAssad> and it was like 200 meters away from the Palestinian Authority camp where Arafat had been holed up, so it'd been through a lot :)
[10:21] <holycow> jumbers, because of flash?
[10:21] <jumbers> Of course :(
[10:21] <YoussefAssad> I really ought to blog more
[10:22] <holycow> YoussefAssad, holy shit dude
[10:22] <jumbers> I've been waiting forever
[10:22] <jumbers> And still nothing
[10:22] <YoussefAssad> holycow: :)
[10:22] <jumbers> There are so many sites that don't work with Flash 7
[10:22] <stanwebber> Nameeater: is /etc/modules an appropriate place to use for my matrox framebuffer modules not loaded by hotplug?  is there someplace else?
[10:22] <holycow> jumbers, mostly thats the problem of webdesigners
[10:23] <holycow> most webdesigners are totaly idiots
[10:23] <holycow> they usually require the latest flash for no particular reason
[10:23] <hawkaloogie> holycow, no, most FLASH designers are idiots...
[10:23] <Gumby> can anyone tell me if there is an amd64 specific ubuntu channel?
[10:23] <holycow> none of the flash 8/9/whatever sites i've seen don't even use any of the new features
[10:23] <jumbers> Flash is stupid in many respects
[10:23] <holycow> hawkaloogie, indeed
[10:23] <Nameeater> stanwebber: not a clue sorry!
[10:24] <godtvisken> What's the difference between Hiberate and Suspend in power management?
[10:24] <bilss_> Jowi here is new pasrebin to clear thing so hda3 will become part of hda5 swap  http://pastebin.ca/118227
[10:24] <jumbers> If anybody wants to rant about Flash not being on Linux, join me in #linux-flash :-P
[10:25] <jumbers> Or rant about Flash in general
[10:25] <YoussefAssad> jumbers: I consider the poor flash for linux support to be a feature
[10:25] <jumbers> How?
[10:25] <stanwebber> i'll never get my matrox framebuffers running
[10:26] <noiesmo> have an old laptop and i think the on board sounds stuffed .  its sis based and there are errors/warnings in dmesg about ac 97 sound and trident4dwave audio how can i test it or is this not possible
[10:26] <Shinzetsu> Is there a way iof seeing what sound driver im currently using? I lost sound somehow and I wish to reinstal it
[10:26] <jumbers> I'm going to send them an email complaining (Obviously it will be ignored)
[10:26] <vaz> can someone advice me on how to get bluetooth working on dapper drake
[10:27] <holycow> YoussefAssad, i'm a graphic designer or at least i used to be ...
[10:27] <holycow> ... and i haveto say that i am comming to the conclusion that it is evil beyond evil
[10:27] <bilss_> is there a ubuntu wiki that deals with grum a sort of hoto?
[10:27] <holycow> as is ajax
[10:27] <holycow> >_>
[10:27] <bilss_> howto
[10:28] <Chousuke> Flash-only sites suck :(
[10:28] <jumbers> Big news for us...
[10:28] <jumbers> http://news.com.com/2061-10795_3-6098253.html
[10:28] <YoussefAssad> holycow: only time I ever saw flash well implemented is with carefully thought out CBT. The UNCDF has a good flash-based microfinance training program, and HP's CBT nuggets are also not bad. But for everything else, flash really doesn't have a place
[10:28] <jumbers> End of the YEAR?!
[10:28] <YoussefAssad> UNCDF == United Nations Capital Development Fund
[10:29] <Boglizk> jumbers: I knew that already
[10:29] <Boglizk> Buy yeah... it sucks
[10:29] <jumbers> Boglizk: I didn't know that already
[10:29] <TheGateKeeper> Shinzetsu:  lshw should tell you what hardware you have
[10:29] <jumbers> So many companies neglect non-windows users
[10:29] <jumbers> Macs get neglected too, but not nearly as much as Linux
[10:30] <holycow> jumbers, i was just researching scsi raid controllers
[10:30] <thundr> we get skype & a few others.
[10:30] <stanwebber> hey is there a dapper-updates universe repository?
[10:31] <unfun> When I try to launch mozilla firefox from the desktop I get this information " Error Launching browser window:no XBL bindning for borowser"
[10:31] <holycow> jumbers, NOW i completely udnerstand WHY open source drivers ar eimportant, why open standards are important
[10:31] <thundr> Is dapper-updates like backports in the older releases?
[10:31] <jumbers> Because companies are lazy and don't do anything. And they neglect minor customers
[10:31] <bubbles> hi
[10:31] <thundr> hi
[10:31] <unfun> !xbl
[10:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about xbl - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:32] <bubbles> how can i enapble mod_alias on apach2?
[10:32] <holycow> jumbers, its amazing really
[10:32] <Shinzetsu> I found "configuration: driver=ATI IXP AC97 controller", can I dpkg-reconfigure it?
[10:32] <jumbers> I would assume SCSI raid controllers would have the most Linux support though
[10:32] <stanwebber> dapper-backports is the backport repository
[10:33] <holycow> jumbers, you would be surprised.  the answer is not really
[10:33] <jumbers> Due to most SCSI raid being on server and most server run Linux
[10:33] <holycow> only a small number of cos actually release open source drivers
[10:33] <holycow> lots of them just release binaries for suse and redhat
[10:34] <jumbers> Sometimes Debian
[10:34] <sw0rdf1sh> Hello all! Is it correct to install MySQL 5 with "apt-get install mysql-server" on Ubuntu desktop?
[10:34] <jumbers> Or you have to use alien to convert the RPM
[10:34] <thundr> stanwebber, so what is dapper-updates for?  The other releases just froze for 6 months w/o backports
[10:34] <jumbers> sw0rdf1sh: Just use Synaptic?
[10:34] <bubbles> how can i enable/install mod_alias on apache2?
[10:35] <unfun> How do I cd to something in a terminal?
[10:35] <bilss_> once i delete hda3 whichnow controls the grub boot loader do i mnt hda1 from live cd  type grub then enter root (hd0,0)  and then setup (hd0)?
[10:35] <sw0rdf1sh> Ok, jumbers, I will try it
[10:35] <jumbers> It's mysql-server-5.0
[10:36] <jumbers> But mysql-server is the package
[10:36] <stanwebber> thundr: well for one i think not having dapper-updates universe in my sources is the cause of the recent totem-xine issue
[10:36] <unfun> What does "Open a terminal, and cd to ~/.phoenix/" mean? and how do I do that?
[10:36] <gimmulf> !firewall
[10:36] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[10:36] <sw0rdf1sh> Thank you, jumbers
[10:36] <Subhuman> unfun, applications, accesroies , terminal, then type "cd ~/.phoenix"
[10:37] <printk> yay xgl + compitz and DRI is finally working for me!
[10:37] <Shinzetsu> TheGatKeeper: I found "configuration: driver=ATI IXP AC97 controller", can I dpkg-reconfigure it?
[10:37] <unfun> thank you
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[10:38] <isak> unfun, ~ is your home directory variable. like if your username is "unfun", ~ would mean /home/unfun/. the . before a file means it's hidden.
[10:38] <printk> !edgy
[10:38] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[10:39] <tomplast> Hi, can anyone remind me of how to mount an extra ext3 partition with write permissions?
[10:39] <TheGateKeeper> Shinzetsu: not sure you need someone with a bit more knowledge than me :-(
[10:40] <Shinzetsu> TheGateKeeper: hehe okay
[10:40] <Shinzetsu> TheGateKeepr: ill try and search for ATI-IXP in synaptic :] 
[10:40] <frogzoo> trying to get clvm to run, which won't start: this in syslog: ccsd[11248] : Unable to connect to cluster infrastructure after 480 seconds.
[10:40] <TheGateKeeper> Shinzetsu: if you do and it works let me know :-)
[10:40] <Waterbou> Can someone explain how to manually partition the drive when installing ubuntu?
[10:40] <Shinzetsu> TheGateKeeper: okay :)
[10:41] <frogzoo> tomplast: copy & modify an existing entry in /etc/fstab
[10:41] <FuriousRage> man this is gonna take some time to get used to, firefox with a blue globe instead of the orange-ish fox as icon
[10:41] <thundr> it can be changed.
[10:42] <tomplast> frogzoo: can I use my system partition and copy it and just change ?
[10:42] <tomplast> I mean, wait :P
[10:42] <Waterbou> anyone?
[10:43] <tomplast> frogzoo: This is my system partition: /dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[10:43] <NineTeen67Comet> Wha-a-aha .. My wifi and sound isn't working .. I've got that friggin' Broadcom/Belkin card as my wifi, and it was appearing in network, but I followed a how-to and now it's not even showing up in network (but dmesg shows it fine) ..
[10:43] <FuriousRage> thundr: it can? even the one in "task bar down there"? (the quick launch icon i know can be changed)
[10:43] <twa1296> FuriousRage, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=199193&
[10:43] <TheGateKeeper> Waterbou: you slect manual partition and use the options available for creating / deleteing partitions, it's reasonable easy to use, just ensure the selected it in the list is 'free space' when creating partitions
[10:43] <FuriousRage> twa1296: thanks four bunshes! ;>
[10:43] <Waterbou> Well, I must have messed up my installation twice then
[10:43] <twa1296> np :P
[10:44] <TheGateKeeper> Waterbou: how so?
[10:44] <lyy> what's the other tool like yum?
[10:44] <lyy> i forgot
[10:44] <YoussefAssad> lyy: synaptic?
[10:44] <Waterbou> everything looks like it is going fine then it says something like preparing partioner and then I get a big blue screen
[10:45] <lyy> YoussefAssad: ah thanks. apt was what i was looking for
[10:45] <erudified> Why does gettext rely on gcj-4.1-base?
[10:45] <TheGateKeeper> Waterbou: when you do a manual partition you need to have 1 partition as swap, and you will need to tell it where to put / (i.e. root)
[10:45] <lyy> YoussefAssad: i'm mostly a shell guy so i like the non gui tool
[10:45] <YoussefAssad> lyy: cheers :) I never used suse, I thought yum was all pointy clicky!
[10:46] <TheGateKeeper> Waterbou: a clean disk, or got ntfs on it?
[10:46] <lyy> YoussefAssad: actually suse uses yast
[10:46] <YoussefAssad> lyy: ah, okay
[10:46] <asabil> anyone having troubles with gdmXnest
[10:46] <Waterbou> Well, I would rather just format over my current drive, but as I said, it doesn't ask me, it just does what I said above
[10:46] <asabil> ?
[10:46] <Waterbou> ntfs
[10:46] <TheGateKeeper> Waterbou: do you want to keep ntfs at all?
[10:47] <FuriousRage> twa1296: weeee, now i feel "at home" again ;P
[10:47] <Waterbou> not really, it doesn't matter to me
[10:48] <Waterbou> I plan to make three seperate partitions one of them will be ntfs eventually
[10:48] <TheGateKeeper> Waterbou: does the partitioner recognise the the ntfs partition?
[10:48] <twa1296> FuriousRage, i know what you mean ;-)
[10:48] <Waterbou> I couldn't say, it just says it is opening the partitioner and then I get a big blue screen that I can type on
[10:48] <TheGateKeeper> Waterbou: you want dual boot?
[10:49] <Waterbou> but that does nothing
[10:49] <FuriousRage> twa1296: before i had "hard time" to find the FF window to switch to i often minimized other programs due to missclick ;>
[10:49] <Waterbou> I want to dual boot later, for right now I would like it to be ONLY Ubuntu
[10:49] <lastnode> Waterbou, so edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:50] <FuriousRage> twa1296: althought xchat got killed and amsn's tray icon vanished when it reloaded the gnome panel stuff ;>
[10:50] <Waterbou> how do I do that? ><
[10:50] <TheGateKeeper> Waterbou: if you want dual boot you must first install windows then linux, not the other way around
[10:50] <Waterbou> I am like the uber newb here
[10:50] <Chousuke> TheGateKeeper: It's not required.
[10:50] <twa1296> FuriousRage, yeah killall panel kills the systray ooops, notification tray applets
[10:51] <Chousuke> TheGateKeeper: but it's a lot simpler that way. :)
[10:51] <Waterbou> So I can't make three partitions and have linux be the first?
[10:51] <llama32> how do i select which audio card is used by default?
[10:51] <Chousuke> Waterbou: you can.
[10:51] <isak> Chousuke: isnt it? windows was bitching about that it wanted to be on the first partitions on the harddrive last time i tried? :)
[10:51] <Chousuke> oh?
[10:51] <Chousuke> weird.
[10:51] <llama32> [im using KDE... im assuming audio device selection is done independant of desktop environment?] 
[10:51] <TheGateKeeper> Chousuke: thought that was always the percieved wisdom?
[10:52] <Chousuke> well, what does it matter which partition windows is on
[10:52] <Chousuke> just install linux on the second partition
[10:52] <Chousuke> it doesn't complain :)
[10:52] <crimsun> llama32: System> Preferences> Sound> Set default card
[10:52] <crimsun> llama32: err, sorry, missed your previous statemente.
[10:52] <Waterbou> But I am still stuck on this part
[10:52] <FuriousRage> Chousuke: when i got dual boot windows/linux i always have windows on the first part of the disk since i install windows first
[10:52] <crimsun> llama32: use asoundconf(1)'s convenience macro, set-default-card
[10:53] <Waterbou> it says preparing partitioner and then gives me that blue screen
[10:53] <Waterbou> what can I do from there?
[10:53] <llama32> crimsun: what package is that in? i don't have it...
[10:53] <Chousuke> FuriousRage: Well, of course.
[10:53] <Chousuke> Waterbou: Hard to say without more information :P
[10:54] <TheGateKeeper> Waterbou: assuming that you still have your ntfs partition and you can boot to windows, what I would do is defrag it, then shrink the ntfs partition, then add the other 2 partitions
[10:54] <godtvisken> Are there "restore points" in Ubuntu like there are in Windows XP? So if I install the updates and things mess up I can get back to my system?
[10:54] <llama32> oh sorry, nm crimsun
[10:55] <Chousuke> godtvisken: not really.
[10:55] <d2812> I've just enabled the web frontend to CUPS, and am in the middle of adding a printer. However, it doesnt seem to like my username and password when it prompts for it. Anyone able to help? I've added the cups user to the shadow group already.
[10:55] <Waterbou> alright, are there any free partitioners for windows?
[10:55] <tsume> Waterbou: yeah, ones which delete the windows partition ;)
[10:55] <isak> Waterbou: maybe gparted will do the trick?
[10:55] <Chousuke> Waterbou: you can use the Ubuntu livecd for the partitioning
[10:55] <Waterbou> ok
[10:55] <Chousuke> I think it's able to resize NTFS safely, too
[10:56] <TheGateKeeper> Waterbou: use either GParted (which ubuntu uses in the installer) or qtparted or something like that
[10:57] <Shinzetsu> TheGateKeeper: I think I found it
[10:57] <Shinzetsu> TheGateKepper: I didnt have linux-sound-base, alsa-base and alsa-utils
[10:57] <FuriousRage> i recomment to use Partition MAgic 8+ from windows to resize, works wounders and so far never had problem with it.
[10:57] <Shinzetsu> TheGateKeeper: lemme reboot and see if it works~brb
[10:58] <Waterbou> Can I use my gnoppix LiveCD to partition?  If I can, how so?
[11:00] <unfun> Is it possible to make counter strike work in ubuntu?
[11:00] <rob> yes it is unfun
[11:01] <rob> unfun, check out http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/wiki/Main_Page
[11:01] <Waterbou> Is it possible to get my microsoft USB wireless card to work in ubuntu?
[11:01] <TheGateKeeper> Waterbou: got no experience with gnoppix, but you might find this helpfull: http://myy.helia.fi/~karte/linux/doc/linux-windows-dual-boot-resing-ntfs.html
[11:02] <rob> wireless card? hmm not sure
[11:03] <adminx> Good Morning from Atlanta, GA
[11:03] <wasynyt> good day to everyone... and could someone walk me thru setting up working samba
[11:03] <rob> unfun try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega also
[11:03] <wasynyt> in 6.06
[11:03] <asabil> when i run gdmXnest i get a black screen
[11:03] <mrkoje> adminx good morning
[11:03] <asabil> and it says : Couldn't get keyboard.
[11:04] <asabil> can someone help me with this ?
[11:04] <mrkoje> asabil, what is your problem
[11:04] <wasynyt> i have tried congiguring in but even thou i have used the gui tools.. it does not seem to work as my other windows comp in the same network does not see me
[11:04] <TheGateKeeper> Waterbou: it uses qtparted so yes!
[11:04] <rob> wasynyt, try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[11:04] <asabil> mrkoje, when i run gdmXnest i get a black screen, and couldn' get keyboard
[11:04] <wasynyt> lets see
[11:04] <asabil> that's what it says
[11:05] <mrkoje> sorry.. I don't even know what gdmXnest is :(
[11:06] <dapet> Anyone have experince with installing netgear WG111v2. I have treied everything and run into trubles everywhere, and no one were able to help me thrugh.
[11:06] <asabil> :/
[11:06] <Waterbou> huzzah, so now as soon as I figure out what I need to do to get it to recognize my wifi card I am set
[11:06] <rob> dapet, try http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=212365
[11:08] <wasynyt> mhhh
[11:09] <keiron> hi. I have an ethernet cable that came with my wireless router. is this a crossover cable?
[11:09] <mrkoje> I tried playing BF2 in VMware / XP on Ubuntu... ya the 16mb virtual graphics card doesn't work so well for games
[11:09] <dapet> rob: thx... Can you help me with my problem on that site?
[11:09] <rob> mrkoje, it might work with cedega?
[11:09] <adminx> With wifi I find that if wireless card is not auto dectected that ndiswrapper works best.
[11:09] <godtvisken> Anyone know an algorithm to discover X in the expression X mod N = M where N and M are known?
[11:09] <mrkoje> rob, haven't tried and I probably won't either.. I'm just dual booting for it now
[11:09] <mrkoje> for that and wow
[11:10] <ubuntu> Jowi: hi
[11:10] <rob> I have heard that BF2 works
[11:10] <Shinzetsu> TheGateKeeper: it works! I just need to get that KMixer back.. brb
[11:10] <rob> dapet, link?
[11:11] <rowanjl> Hey, I'm trying to add a browser to Cups through the web based admin, but it keeps asking me for a username and password, what am I supposed to enter?
[11:11] <FuriousRage> hmm, when i select to instal azureus, why does it wanna install mozilla-browser when i got switftfox and firefox? and gjc java when i got sun java 1.5 ect? ;/
[11:11] <dapet> rob: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=212365
[11:11] <rob> dapet, what problem are you having?
[11:11] <Lynoure> FuriousRage: possibly it's picky. possibly it's packaged without thinking about those things.
[11:11] <dapet> rob: It is when I have to write the "rmmod" command it writes back ERROR: Module bcm43xx does not exist in /proc/modules
[11:11] <Eric_> Does anybody know how to bring my via epia ml8000a at lower CPU speed with ubuntu dapper server?
[11:12] <FuriousRage> Lynoure: hmm ubuntu doesnt come with many torrent clients then, azureus and bittornade, and bittornade can only handle 1 file at the time ;/
[11:12] <Waterbou> How do I search for a specific driver for a specific chip in ubuntu?
[11:12] <TheGateKeeper> Shinzetsu: excellent :-)
[11:13] <rob> dapet, if it doesn't exist don't worry about it, you don't use that module anyway by the looks of things
[11:13] <rob> FuriousRage, try Rufus (its Azureus like without the java overhead)
[11:13] <dapet> okay... kernel vertion is 6.06 when I have dapper drake?
[11:14] <rob> 6.06 the ubuntu version is dapper drake, yes
[11:14] <FuriousRage> rob: oki thanks.
[11:14] <printk> dapet: ubuntu is 6.06 the kernel is 2.6.15 or whatever it comes with
[11:14] <steveire> can grep do a not operation? grep "foo" -not "bar" hello.c to find lines with foo, but not bar.
[11:14] <dapet> printk: how do I tjeck to be sure?
[11:14] <rob> when I use grep I just do cat /some/file | grep whatImsearchingfor
[11:15] <printk> dapet: for kernel version?  uname -r
[11:15] <tristano> hello, how to install video codecs? (dvix, xvid, wmv etc)
[11:15] <keiron> hi. I have an ethernet cable that came with my wireless router. is this a crossover cable?
[11:15] <cypher1> steveire, checkout -v option
[11:15] <rob> !codecs
[11:15] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:15] <TheGateKeeper> Shinzetsu: thanx for the info :-)
[11:15] <steveire> indeed, thanks.
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[11:15] <tristano> rob, thaks
[11:15] <printk> np
[11:15] <rob> np
[11:15] <cypher1> rob, grep whatImsearchfor /some/file works too :)
[11:16] <rob> sure :)
[11:16] <cypher1> steveire, you are welcome
[11:16] <rob> just habit
[11:16] <djwhyte> Guys, I am a little worried that the point release of Dapper might contain a dodgy kernel version.  How do I raise that as an issue?
[11:16] <steveire> grep -i "foo" | grep -vi "bar" sorted me out.
[11:16] <rob> djwhyte, log a bug?
[11:16] <rob> !launchpad
[11:16] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[11:16] <rob> !bugs
[11:16] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[11:17] <djwhyte> Okay, it is logged as a bug, for a while, but it has not been triaged.  Does that mean it hasn't yet been looked at by the devs?
[11:17] <rob> maybe
[11:17] <rem_> Hey just a Q..I can Mount my sony-ericsson phone ok in Ubuntu, but not in eduubuntu files system seems to be vfat and i can mount other mp3 players in eduubuntu...where would i look to see whats missing in eduubuntu to mount it ..?
[11:17] <djwhyte> I guess I should email the associated dev to ensure he is aware of it
[11:17] <rob> djwhyte, whats the bug number?
[11:18] <djwhyte> rob: 52649
[11:18] <djwhyte> In relation to Via mainboards and sound issues
[11:18] <djwhyte> rob: let me know if I am over-reacting :)
[11:19] <frogzoo> djwhyte: or maybe the devs already know about it the issue, but haven't updated the bug report status
[11:19] <rowanjl> Someone must know :(
[11:19] <rob> djwhyte, it looks like your bug is being looked at, just sit tight and keep an eye on it, they may request more info
[11:20] <rob> its been assigned to someone at least
[11:20] <Lynoure> rowanjl: by default no password will work there, but it's fixable through cups configuration files
[11:20] <djwhyte> rob: cheers mate.  thanks for the help
[11:20] <rob> np djwhyte
[11:20] <frogzoo> rob: you need to add cupsys to the 'shadow' group & your user must be a member of lpadmin
[11:20] <rob> umm.. ok :)
[11:20] <frogzoo> rowanjl: you need to add cupsys to the 'shadow' group & your user must be a member of lpadmin
[11:20] <frogzoo> rob soz
[11:20] <rob> heh np frogzoo
[11:21] <rowanjl> hmm
[11:21] <rowanjl> hmm, thanks, I'll try that
[11:21] <frogzoo> rowanjl: finally, you need to restart cupsys
[11:22] <rowanjl> Ok :)
[11:23] <BHSPitMonkey> anybody had any problems with firefox, latest version? RE: freezes
[11:23] <rob> no, whats happening BHSPitMonkey?
[11:24] <Angela> hi all :) what is the bare minimum hard disk space Ubuntu 6 take?
[11:24] <BHSPitMonkey> since the latest update, I've been getting a lot of freezes. never happened before.
[11:24] <BHSPitMonkey> @ rob
[11:24] <Angela> im just doing a VMware install
[11:25] <frogzoo> Angela: 2-4gig, or thereabouts
[11:25] <Rookie-> i belive a full installation is some about 3 GB with X
[11:25] <Angela> nice
[11:25] <Angela> Thanks :)
[11:25] <rob> BHSPitMonkey, if you can reproduce the problem and describe it, try logging a bug maybe?
[11:25] <dapet_> rob: I came to step 6 in http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=212365 where i have to write "sudo ndiswrapper -m" but the output is "modprobe config already contains alias directive"
[11:26] <Rookie-> with other progs and so  it might be up to 5 GB
[11:26] <user_> angela: smallest, ubuntu server install 170 mb
[11:26] <Angela> ok, I will just tell VMware to dynamicaly do the hard disk space :)
[11:26] <Rookie-> pretty big even that ;)
[11:26] <rob> dapet_, maybe your system is already set up at that step
[11:26] <UbuntuJulez> hi! I would like to install old-school Quake (Quake 1); how is this done?
[11:26] <BHSPitMonkey> rob, I have no idea how to produce it. I'm talking to a guy in the official firefox, and he says my situation is harder since the ubuntu repo version of ff get a big patch applied to it
[11:26] <Rookie-> smallest linux dist is 54 mb
[11:27] <dapet_> rob: hmmm aso I just go to step 7?
[11:27] <rob> BHSPitMonkey, might be the problem then, just put in the report what you know
[11:27] <Angela> yea I got Puppy, and Dam small installed too :)
[11:27] <dapet_> so*
[11:27] <rob> dapet_, go for it
[11:27] <rowanjl> frogzoo: thanks a lot, I got it working :)
[11:27] <user_> rookie was smallest ubuntu install
[11:27] <Angela> I love VMware :)
[11:27] <Rookie-> yea, i heard you ;)
[11:27] <dapet_> rob: hmmm okay
[11:27] <ulaas> i loose my consoles as soon as X starts. after that i got nothinhg but X. ALT-FX is just black. any ideas?
[11:28] <tristano> !nvidia
[11:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:28] <Angela> !vmware
[11:28] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[11:28] <Angela> neato!
[11:28] <frogzoo> rowanjl: now consider firewalling port 631
[11:29] <rowanjl> frogzoo: yeah :)
[11:29] <tabman> how can i copy multiple files with one statement ?
[11:29] <rowanjl> Thanks again, I'll be off
[11:29] <tabman> as in cp file1 file2
[11:29] <Angela> dose ubuntu install firewall  by default for desktop users?
[11:29] <tabman> what if I have 3 files to copy
[11:29] <Frankenstein> Angela, no, try sudo apt-get install firestarter
[11:29] <rob> Angela, you don't need one by default, but if you want one try firestarter
[11:30] <Angela> I doIm a noobie
[11:30] <Angela> :)
[11:30] <tabman> anyone ?
[11:30] <rob> unless you have turned some server on, you don't need one
[11:30] <Shinzetsu> TheGateKeeper: Now I got my sound back but I cant get the KMix working =p
[11:31] <Angela> ok thanks rob :)
[11:31] <RAOF> tabman: cp file1 file2 ... file_n destination
[11:31] <Angela> I just -mail -firefox -irc
[11:32] <tabman> RAOF: no commas in between ?
[11:32] <RAOF> tabman: no
[11:32] <frogzoo> oh man this is frustrating - anyone discover that clvm refuses to uninstall?
[11:32] <RAOF> tabman: that's what "cp * /to/here" expands to
[11:32] <RAOF> tabman: "cp <list of files separated by spaces> /to/here" :)
[11:34] <ArcAnge1> good morning everybody
[11:34] <JonasNZ> how does one set a proxy for ubuntu, especially to make apt work
[11:35] <aldo> Hi to all. How can I edit my Ubuntu menu? The goal is to delete an orphan menu entry (acroread)
[11:36] <dapet> Rob: It did not work :(
[11:36] <isak> aldo: alacarte
[11:36] <rob> dapet, so what happen?
[11:36] <tabman> RAOF: when I copied my files to the new directory, the new directory shows those files with a lock on them ?
[11:37] <dapet> rob: I rebooted (step 7) and when I deaktivated my wired network and aktivated my wireless, I were not able to go on the net
[11:37] <aldo> isak: the orphan voice does not appear in alacarte. Probably I have to edit some file...
[11:37] <ArcAnge1> can someone please help me with a harddisk problem
[11:37] <rob> so it worked until you disabled it dapet?
[11:37] <RAOF> tabman: The files will generally retain the same permissions.  The "lock" indicates that you don't have write permissions.  Did you copy from somewhere you didn't have write permissions to (like a CD :))
[11:38] <rob> ah, sorry misread what you said
[11:38] <dapet> Yes the wired network works fine, but the wireless does not
[11:38] <stanwebber> i have duplicate menu entries all over the place i can't get rid of.  i just simply disable the checkbox
[11:38] <Jaak> can i share my printer with windows comps?
[11:38] <dapet> Yes the wired network works fine, but the wireless does not rob
[11:38] <tabman> RAOF: they did not have earlier in the old folder ?
[11:39] <rob> dapet, you might need to set up your wireless network with dhcp, and turn on masquerading for that network
[11:39] <Jaak> good, it's wired
[11:39] <rob> depending on how your set up
[11:39] <stanwebber> can anyone here help me with setting up framebuffer devices for my matrox card?
[11:39] <rob> does the wireless card actually find a network?
[11:40] <RAOF> tabman: Odd.  Did you have to use "sudo" to copy them, or anything?  Were you copying to somewhere your user doesn't have write permissions? (Like anywhere outside /home/username)
[11:41] <dapet> rob: I have set it up with dhcp, but how do i set the masquerading?
[11:41] <FuriousRage> is there an installable file for azureus that doesnt require gjc java for dapper?
[11:41] <rob> dapet, try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetConnectionSharing
[11:41] <Falcon4> quick question. can anyone tell me why my laptop's integrated USB-driven SD reader (SD ONLY, not a multi reader) isn't being recognized as a disk? it sees the SCSI device, but not the drive/card itself... :(
[11:42] <rob> dapet, it depends how your network is set up
[11:42] <dapet> rob: okay thx
[11:42] <tabman> RAOF: i used sudo
[11:42] <tabman> RAOF: yes its an outside location but the old & new location are on the same drive
[11:42] <keiron> hi. I have an ethernet cable that came with my wireless router. is this a crossover cable?
[11:43] <tsume> no
[11:43] <thundr> keiron, most likely not.
[11:43] <frogzoo> keiron: no way
[11:43] <keiron> ok, thanks
[11:43] <Falcon4> check the ends,if they're wired the same colors to each slot
[11:43] <Falcon4> that's basically the sure-fire way to tell :)
[11:43] <frogzoo> keiron: you don't use a crossover to connect a pc to a router - crossovers are for pc 2 pc connections
[11:44] <keiron> thanks Falcon4
[11:44] <afflux> morgen.
[11:44] <keiron> frogzoo: yeah, that's what i'm trying to do
[11:44] <ompaul> !de
[11:44] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:44] <RAOF> tabman: Ok, so the files are somewhere you didn't have write access to, so you still don't have write access.
[11:44] <Falcon4> oh, and if they are the same colors, it's a straight cable (not crossover).
[11:44] <Falcon4> alright, now who can help me with that SD problem? then i need to ask about a problem that may be damaging my LCD on boot
[11:44] <RAOF> tabman: If you really want write access, you could "sudo chmod +w /path/to/file(s)"
[11:44] <Shinzetsu> TheGateKeeper, what the hell my sound is gone, again.
[11:45] <frogzoo> Falcon4: either you have the driver, can get a working driver, or it's not supported
[11:45] <RAOF> tabman: But that's probably the wrong solution.  Pretty much anything you want to (routinely) write to should be in your home directory, anyway.
[11:45] <Falcon4> frogzoo: it's a simple USB-SCSI-disk device like everything else, shall i screenshot my device manager? =\
[11:46] <fblade> hey im trying to run savage the game linux version and i get this error can any1 help? ImportError: libssl.so.0.9.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:46] <fblade> There was an error (error 65280 - Unknown error 65280) running the updater!  bailing out
[11:46] <TheGateKeeper> Shinzetsu: got to go hope you get it sorted
[11:46] <frogzoo> Falcon4: have you checked /var/log/messages for info?
[11:46] <Falcon4> ah, finally, a pointer on where to go in this mess of a filesystem :-)
[11:47] <Falcon4> i'll check :P
[11:47] <gorilla> hi all, I was wondering if there is a guide on backporting a package from edgy to dapper? This is required for Software freedom day.
[11:47] <tabman> RAOF: right
[11:47] <frogzoo> Falcon4: easiest way to check - tail -f /var/log/messages - then plug in the device
[11:48] <Falcon4> yeah, it's saying it seems to fully recognize it, but no disk devices appear for it
[11:48] <Falcon4> Aug  6 02:47:48 ubuntu kernel: [17180397.792000]    Vendor: SMI       Model:                   Rev:
[11:48] <rob> gorilla, try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BackportsHowto
[11:48] <Falcon4> http://www.hostfile.org/Screenshot-Device_Manager.png
[11:49] <rob> ok, going to bed, night guys
[11:49] <frogzoo> Falcon4: add the disk mounter applet to the tool bar & see if you can mount the SD...
[11:50] <Falcon4> AHH, I see it now... i totally skipped right over it in Disks Manager thinking it was saying 29.69GiB
[11:50] <gorilla> rob: thanks for that. I'll have a look.
[11:50] <Falcon4> it's 29.69MiB, the SD card. funny it didn't mount that. *plays around*
[11:52] <Falcon4> okay, it's completely oblivious to me "enabling" access to it (no messages on /var/log/messages either)... also trying to find a place to mount it (access path was "none")... my /mnt seems to be coming up as blank, where do i put mounted drives in this thing?
[11:53] <Falcon4> ahh, never mind, i found it: /media.
[11:53] <frogzoo> can I run clvm with the 2.6.15-26-686 kernel, or is the 2.6.15-26-server-bigiron kernel required?
[11:54] <satempler> After setting up ndiswrapper, every thing seems to be working according to this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19854. but in the Networking Configuration it says its eth1 when ndiswrapper says it wlan0
[11:55] <satempler> this is the output of dmesg | grep wlan0 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19855
[11:55] <satempler> my card is a bcm4318 on a compaq presario V2000
[11:55] <Falcon4> alright, now i can discuss my next huge problem... in this picture of my screen during boot, it's obviously splitting my screen in two with a large white line in the middle... that line deteriorates the longer it stays up there and i'm worried it's toasting my LCD driver... what's up with that? http://www.hostfile.org/imgp0036.jpg
[11:58] <satempler> any one know how to get ndiswrapper to use eth1 or my card to use wlan0
[11:59] <oxen> what will happen if i remowe the gnome
[11:59] <Vardis> How can i get working unichrome s3 pro on K8? 32bit
[11:59] <oxen> i hawe xubuntu in  :o
[12:00] <printk> anyone know if the new cgwd themer has a theme package yet?
[12:00] <printk> nevermind found it :)
[12:02] <damo22> how do i enable a special flag for a kernel module?
[12:02] <damo22> and have it built into the kernel
[12:02] <Vardis> today is too quet :(
[12:03] <threeonefour> how do i enable dual boot with ubuntu 5.10
[12:03] <threeonefour> anyone
[12:05] <Vardis> threeonefour, make corections in grub conf  if i am correct
[12:05] <threeonefour> vardis u need to be more spacific i'm total noob with linux
[12:05] <satempler> After setting up ndiswrapper, every thing seems to be working according to this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19854. but in the Networking Configuration it says its eth1 when ndiswrapper says it wlan0
[12:06] <satempler> this is the output of dmesg | grep wlan0 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19855
[12:06] <satempler> my card is a bcm4318 on a compaq presario V2000
[12:06] <satempler> so what i want to know is how to get ndiswrapper to use eth1 or my card to use wlan0
[12:07] <Vardis> threeonefour, u know i am too not very pro
[12:07] <threat2> hey, what is involved in making a ubuntu mirror and / or proxy ?
[12:07] <Falcon4> balls of steel.
[12:07] <threeonefour> but i don't even know what grub is
[12:08] <threat2> threeonefour, boot loader
[12:08] <threat2> threeonefour, allows you to select that OS to boot into
[12:08] <threeonefour> do u know how i can set it for dual boot
[12:08] <Vardis> threeonefour, what is other OS?
[12:09] <threeonefour> win 98 or win 95
[12:09] <gorilla> rob: thanks for that.. Bug #55385 (I think I got it right)
[12:09] <Falcon4> Vardis: can you help with my boot screen issue? =\
[12:09] <threat2> threeonefour, yes I do
[12:09] <Vardis> Falcon4, cant promise
[12:09] <Falcon4> (reposting:) in this picture of my screen during boot, it's obviously splitting my screen in two with a large white line in the middle... that line deteriorates the longer it stays up there and i'm worried it's toasting my LCD driver... what's up with that? http://www.hostfile.org/imgp0036.jpg
[12:09] <threeonefour> will u help me thret
[12:10] <forngren> Quick quiestion: is there a keyboard shortcut to switch workspaces in gnome-panel?
[12:12] <Vardis> Falcon4, first time seeing somthing like this :(
[12:13] <Falcon4> well, hell, any way to change the display mode of the boot screen?
[12:14] <santa99> he guys is packet injection possible for a intel 2200 bg
[12:14] <Falcon4> oooh, *applauds* what a beautiful question to ask! :D
[12:14] <ompaul> santa99, if your going to say that, got the fix handy?
[12:15] <Vardis> Falcon4, meyby try in grub change somthing?
[12:15] <a_l_e> hello, i'm trying to play some .flv files with totem but it says that i don't have a decoder to handle that type of files. anybody can help me?
[12:15] <threeonefour> what is flv
[12:15] <ompaul> santa99, the reason I ask is that asking how to crack something is not in line with freenode policy, or for that matter Ubuntu
[12:15] <a_l_e> i have gstreamer-0.10 installed with good, bad and ugly plugins
[12:15] <a_l_e> threeonefour: flash files
[12:16] <santa99> ompaul, i want to test my network on security
[12:16] <Falcon4> shure. =)
[12:16] <rowanjl> I've managed to break my user permissions, I set my group incorrectly with usermod, so now I don't have access to a lot of the administration tools... can anyone suggest what I could try to restore things?
[12:16] <Falcon4> anyway, trying to find "vga=" options for grub.conf... where do i start? =\
[12:16] <threeonefour> i highly doubt that santa99
[12:16] <santa99> ok than i have to find a way to fix it myself
[12:17] <neutrinomass> rowanjl: i.e. you have broken sudo ?
[12:17] <ompaul> santa99, this is not the place to ask those questions, what you do is follow best practice, have a look at securityfocus.com and other things like that
[12:17] <rowanjl> neutrinomass: looks that way
[12:17] <santa99> ompaul, ok
[12:17] <neutrinomass> rowanjl: Make sure your user belongs to the 'admin' group.
[12:17] <Vardis> meybi in guugle grub conf and vga
[12:18] <rowanjl> aha, thank you neutrinomass, fixed it :)
[12:18] <neutrinomass> rowanjl: You won't be able to edit /etc/group because that would require sudo permissions, so it will require rebooting into "rescue mode" (from the grub menu). Open /etc/group and add yourself
[12:18] <samuel> #ubuntu-it
[12:18] <neutrinomass> rowanjl: :| How did you fix it ?
[12:18] <Falcon4> looks like i need vga=794... but i really wish i could get 1280x800 like my screen supports :P
[12:18] <rowanjl> neutrinomass: I've also done something not considered healthy, that is, I've enabled the root account ;)
[12:18] <neutrinomass> rowanjl: Ahhhh... ok then :)
[12:19] <rowanjl> Thanks again :)
[12:19] <Falcon4> *sigh* where's grub.conf... :(
[12:20] <Vardis> Falcon4, ith it too needed for boot to have 1280x800
[12:20] <a_l_e> mmmh... the last time i tried to transform to mpeg (with ffmpeg) it crashed... now it seems to work... let's wait and see if i can see the film, afterwards!
[12:20] <Vardis> in boot directory
[12:20] <Falcon4> Vardis: lol, i was just trying to match my hardware exactly... don't know what it's using now but it's pretty painful :P
[12:21] <a_l_e> it worked!
[12:21] <Falcon4> and, um... in my /boot, i have a grub folder but no grub.conf in sight...
[12:22] <appe> -must- i have a bruv folder?
[12:22] <appe> grub
[12:24] <Vardis> Falcon4, then try sudo updatedb and after that locate grub.conf :)
[12:24] <Falcon4> somehow i recognize that command. oh so many years ago. :P
[12:25] <neutrinomass> Falcon4: I don't think a grub.conf exists.....
[12:25] <Falcon4> orly? o.O then where do i set the vga= line?
[12:26] <Falcon4> he's right... no grub.conf...
[12:26] <neutrinomass> Falcon4: /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[12:26] <Falcon4> yeah, i'm editing that, but i don't see any vga= lines :(
[12:27] <Falcon4> wait. wait. i think i see.
[12:27] <neutrinomass> Falcon4: There shouldn't be any. You have to add it yourself (I suppose you know what you're doing btw - normally, it's not neccessary to add it )
[12:27] <Falcon4> yeah, it's killing my screen with whatever mode it's using by default, so i'm trying to ease my boot pains :P
[12:27] <Ernst_> what samba username/password do i ad for windows to connect without asking me to enter a password and username?
[12:27] <neutrinomass> Falcon4: Just append the "vga=foo" to the "kernel" line of your current kernel ...
[12:27] <Falcon4> X/Gnome is working just fine atm... detected my resolution immediately without even asking
[12:28] <Falcon4> interesting. i don't have permission to save it?
[12:29] <neutrinomass> Falcon4: You need administration permissions to edit it. From a command line, do a "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[12:29] <Vardis> sudo workin too
[12:29] <revartj> hello
[12:29] <neutrinomass> Vardis: gksudo is recommended for graphical applications
[12:30] <Falcon4> whew. god. this sudo crap bugs me. why in god's name do linux users like to run in an account other than root anyway??
[12:30] <revartj> somebdoy can i me with 3d aceleration for ati
[12:30] <revartj> ??
[12:30] <Falcon4> it's like not being allowed to use your own damn computer...
[12:30] <Vardis> neutrinomass, oh i did'nt know that
[12:30] <ompaul> !root > Falcon4 that is the reason why :)
[12:30] <ubotu> I'll remember that
[12:30] <ompaul> !root > Falcon4
[12:31] <Falcon4> ... righty!
[12:31] <neutrinomass> Falcon4: It's like making it easy for 2 people to use the same computer, and not allowing you to mess up your computer easiliy :P
[12:31] <Falcon4> lol. or un-mess it.
[12:32] <Falcon4> i'd rather mess it up and be able to fix it than not be able to mess it up or understand why it's messed up ;-)
[12:32] <ompaul> Falcon4, in ubuntu we never tell someone how to set up root we show them that doc
[12:32] <ompaul> Falcon4, how about learning how to use it correctly so you don't end up in  that position
[12:32] <neutrinomass> Vardis: I'm not exactly sure why though ....
[12:32] <Falcon4> still hard to believe people don't object to having to reenter their friggin password every 5 minutes...
[12:33] <puppet> falcon4: visudo
[12:33] <puppet> falcon4: and add NOPASSWORD
[12:33] <puppet> or wait
[12:33] <puppet> ill give u exact line
[12:33] <neutrinomass> ompaul: Is there a way to start things with gksudo without resorting to the command line ? (ok, without alt+f2 as well :P )
[12:33] <ompaul> Falcon4, calm down, it is 15 and why would you be using "root" accounts all the time
[12:33] <Falcon4> LOL
[12:33] <puppet> falcon4: and sudo su - always works
[12:33] <Vardis> Falcon4, sudo -s
[12:34] <Falcon4> OH SWEET. alt+f2... like Windows+R :-)
[12:34] <puppet> falcon4: %wheel  ALL=(ALL)       NOPASSWD: ALL
[12:34] <ompaul> puppet, not the right way, nor you vardis -- try sudo -i If you must
[12:34] <puppet> ompaul: i always use that ;P
[12:34] <isak> sudo bash also works
[12:34] <puppet> ompaul: sudo -i doesnt exist
[12:35] <ompaul> sudo -i does
[12:35] <puppet> [puppet@asterisk1 ~] $ sudo -i
[12:35] <puppet> sudo: Illegal option -i
[12:35] <neutrinomass> Vardis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo, under "Notes" is explained why gksudo should be used instead of sudo
[12:35] <puppet> sudo -s works
[12:35] <Falcon4> ehh, yeah, i'm clueless. i think i'll just reboot and see if all this new stuff worked. :P
[12:35] <neutrinomass> puppet: That's weird, I have used it several times ...
[12:35] <ompaul> puppet, ehhhhh
[12:35] <Falcon4> back in a few :P
[12:35] <ompaul> puppet, done something funny to your sudo - if that is ubuntu it should work
[12:35] <neutrinomass> puppet: "sudo -V" ?
[12:36] <puppet> Sudo version 1.6.7p5
[12:36] <puppet> ;P
[12:36] <ompaul> Sudo version 1.6.8p12
[12:36] <ompaul> what ubuntu you using?
[12:36] <neutrinomass> I've got ompaul's version ...
[12:36] <cybernetic_core> hello
[12:36] <ompaul> !info sudo breezy
[12:36] <puppet> was on the centos worked on ubuntu :)
[12:36] <ubotu> sudo: Provide limited super user privileges to specific users. In repository main, is important. Version 1.6.8p9-2ubuntu2.3 (breezy), package size 155 kB, installed size 376 kB
[12:36] <avis> has anyone here used snort on their home network ?
[12:36] <Ernst_> what samba username/password do i ad for windows to connect without asking me to enter a password and username?
[12:37] <Falcon4> this... is odd... i told it to reboot but i'm just sitting here... the shell locked up... =\
[12:37] <ompaul> puppet, fix your base o/s then
[12:37] <ompaul> }:->
[12:37] <puppet> ompaul: going to install ubtuntu when i get home and ditch that silly trixbox :)
[12:37] <cybernetic_core> can aomeone tell me if there is some ftp where i can download ubuntu repositories DVD ISO???
[12:37] <puppet> ompaul: its my *-box
[12:37] <ompaul> !samba > Ernst_
[12:37] <neutrinomass> ompaul: Heh, that's the version used in warty !
[12:37] <ompaul> Ernst_, afik there is a reference in those pages
[12:37] <Ernst_> k
[12:38] <ompaul> !away > m`kay
[12:38] <Jowi> !mirrors
[12:38] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[12:38] <ompaul> neutrinomass, hmm I wonder
[12:39] <cybernetic_core>  can someone tell me if there is ftp where i can download ubuntu repositories DVD ISO???(there are 5 dvds i think)???
[12:39] <ompaul> cybernetic_core, your question is a bit *strange* what do you actually want to do?
[12:39] <cybernetic_core> for ubuntu 6.06
[12:40] <Vardis> cybernetic_core, all what ubuntu get to dvds?
[12:40] <ompaul> cybernetic_core, install DVDs? mirror the repos? both or something else
[12:41] <cybernetic_core> to download dvd iso files wich contains all applications that are on repositories
[12:41] <ompaul> cybernetic_core, you would need to download the repos and then burn them yourself
[12:41] <cybernetic_core> yes
[12:41] <Vardis> cybernetic_core, what you wil do with all that stuff?
[12:41] <ompaul> cybernetic_core, got 50 gigs handy?
[12:41] <evilmegaman> hi is there a way to edit gnome and kde menus seperately?
[12:41] <printk> that's the reason they are repos cybernetic_core , no need to download it
[12:42] <Vardis> cybernetic_core, bu they are fastly upgrading
[12:42] <cybernetic_core> xm...
[12:42] <cybernetic_core> hold on a sec
[12:42] <Ernst_> !samba
[12:42] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:42] <ompaul> cybernetic_core, I'll find you the link you want take me a minute
[12:43] <cybernetic_core> check this http://www.thelinuxstore.ca/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1113
[12:43] <cybernetic_core> something like that
[12:43] <Falcon4> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19856
[12:43] <Falcon4> *applauds*
[12:43] <cybernetic_core> just to download
[12:43] <ompaul> cybernetic_core, set this up and run it for dapper https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarlGoetz/DebmirrorHowto
[12:43] <Falcon4> just had to change the vga line
[12:44] <Falcon4> now then. issue #3 to tackle (1 was the SD problem, 2 was the LCD problem, 3 is...): XGL! :D
[12:44] <ompaul> cybernetic_core, also get the install dvd then you can burn it yourself
[12:44] <ompaul> !xgl
[12:44] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:45] <ompaul> Falcon4, as xgl is beta it is not supported in this channel it has its own
[12:45] <Falcon4> lol, thanks, i was just looking for the URL :-)
[12:45] <Vardis> !vga
[12:45] <ubotu> I know nothing about vga - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:45] <vick> Hello, is there any samba configuration GUI tool ?
[12:45] <Vardis> !s3
[12:45] <ubotu> I know nothing about s3 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:45] <ompaul> vick, it is called swat - I don't know how to use it have fun with it
[12:45] <Falcon4> !ati
[12:45] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:45] <evilmegaman> hey anyone know if I can hide gnome entries from kde and kde entries from gnome?
[12:45] <ompaul> !msgthebot
[12:45] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[12:45] <evilmegaman> In the menu I mean
[12:46] <Falcon4> (yeah, EasyUbuntu was no help, the installer crashed like a plane flown by a 10-year-old.)
[12:46] <ompaul> evilmegaman, you want to use the alacarte item on gnome as for what you use in kde I have no idea
[12:46] <ulimii> Hi, i want all my disks to be "read and write" support... Ive changed from "defaults" to "rw" in the /etc/fstab and rebooted but their still "Read-only filesystem", what shall i do?
[12:46] <lasindi> Hi all, I can't play any videos in Totem nor any music in Banshee. I get this error in Banshee: Could not get/set settings from/on resource. Since both use Gstreamer, I'm guessing that that's the problem. Is there a way to fix this?
[12:46] <vick> ompaul, Dont you know of anything else not web interface tho ?
[12:46] <evilmegaman> Oh oay ompaul..
[12:46] <ompaul> vick, the command line
[12:46] <evilmegaman> okay*
[12:47] <Amaranth> ompaul, evilmegaman: In KDE it's kmenuedit.
[12:47] <ompaul> Amaranth, you would know that ;-)
[12:47] <ulimii> Hi, i want all my disks to be "read and write" support... Ive changed from "defaults" to "rw" in the /etc/fstab and rebooted but their still "Read-only filesystem", what shall i do????
[12:47] <neutrinomass> ulimii: You shouldn't have changed defaults. Maybe all your disks are NTFS partitions ?
[12:48] <ulimii> neenaoffline: yes they are
[12:48] <ompaul> !ntfs
[12:48] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[12:48] <Amaranth> ompaul: Oh no you don't. :P I'm busy. :)
[12:48] <ompaul> !fuse
[12:48] <ulimii> hmm.
[12:48] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[12:48] <neutrinomass> ulimii: You don't get to safely write to NTFS partitions ...
[12:48] <neutrinomass> ulimii: See the link ompaul/ubotu gave you ...
[12:49] <ompaul> ulimii, that means your existing data breaks - so just give up on it and convert all to ubuntu :)
[12:50] <mElo_> yo!
[12:52] <ompaul> hello
[12:54] <mElo_> I'm (remotely) helping a friend to install ubuntu 6.06 on his (1 dual-core processor) machine. The installation works. But once he gets under X he has no mouse, and his ethernet devices aren't recognized.  After a few hours of tests it seems to me like there's something wrong with his kernel: a 2.6.15-23-386 is installed, but doing modprobe psmouse says that it cannot load /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-server/modules.dep...
[12:56] <neutrinomass> mElo_: sudo aptitude reinstall linux-686 ?
[12:56] <mElo_> Creating a symlink in /lib/modules for 2.6.15-23-386 to 2.6.15-23-server doesn't solve the pb: Then the error is that psmouse.ko isn't a good module format.
[12:56] <neutrinomass> mElo_: Although I'm not sure that will work ....
[12:56] <mElo_> oh ok thx I'm trying it...
[12:57] <neenaoffline> ulimii: what are ?
[12:58] <warlocky> how do I set an static ip again? I remember it was in a file something like "network" /etc/network or something familiar?
[12:59] <rowanjl> Hey, I was in here before, with some user groups trouble, as I'd managed to mangle my users groups up, anyhow, I can't use my soundcards, or, they can't be found for this user... what group do I need to add myself to this time? :P
[12:59] <warlocky> found it :o
[12:59] <Shinzetsu> Sigh, isnt there a way to uninstall everything sound-related?
[12:59] <snoops> system>administration>networking warlocky
[12:59] <printk> rowanjl: group audio
[12:59] <neutrinomass> mElo_: I'm not sure if that will reinstall the meta package or reinstall the kernel as well ... (in the meantime, you might as well install the 686 kernel :) )
[01:00] <halpo> hi
[01:00] <rowanjl> printk: thanks, thats so obvious :/
[01:00] <printk> rowanjl: :)
[01:00] <halpo> im trying to umount my harddisk but it says she is busy
[01:00] <halpo> how do i release her
[01:00] <printk> halpo: make sure there isn't an application or you yourself within a directory in that mounted drive
[01:00] <halpo> printk, how?? :<
[01:01] <printk> halpo: good question :)
[01:01] <halpo> make it work! >:] 
[01:02] <spy> hey guys
[01:02] <saxin> hey
[01:02] <spy> Why is it that my samba shares over the network require me to insert a login username and password
[01:02] <llama32> what's a good music organizer/player? is there something like amarok but gtk2/gnome?
[01:02] <warlocky> where can I find information on my server regarding "broadcast, network, gateway,netmask,address" ?
[01:03] <halpo> how do i release partition that is busy?
[01:04] <rickblue> hello !
[01:04] <neutrinomass> halpo: Where is it mounted ?
[01:04] <rickblue> i have a question for ubuntu pro ! Is it possible to read my file on my hard drive using Ubuntu DVD
[01:04] <halpo> neutrinomass, /billgates
[01:04] <halpo> its /dev/hda1
[01:04] <neutrinomass> halpo: "lsof | grep /billgates"
[01:05] <rickblue> yes but i can't  there's a lock icone
[01:05] <mElo_> neutrinomass, :) yes indeed, but we have no internet connection availlable... and maybe no cdrom! :) trying it this way anyway, seems like it's a good waay...
[01:05] <printk> halpo: and, the most obvious.. you aren't in /billgates... iw type pwd
[01:05] <frogzoo> rickblue: use the live cd
[01:05] <rickblue> i used it !!!
[01:05] <neutrinomass> mElo_: Oh, sorry.  I think the 686 kernel is on the cdrom anyway .... if not, use the 386 (which is there for sure). Without a cdrom it may get messy :P
[01:05] <frogzoo> rickblue: with sudo, you can read the file
[01:06] <rickblue> but you knwo when i try to go to my hard drive there is a lock stuff, so i can't do it !!
[01:06] <rickblue> sudo ?
[01:06] <Shinzetsu> arghhh im getting sick over here
[01:06] <Shinzetsu> I wanna reinstall my sound card
[01:06] <warlocky> where can I find information on my server about my: "broadcast, network, gateway,netmask,address" ?
[01:07] <bimberi> warlocky: ifconfig
[01:07] <warlocky> I know
[01:07] <warlocky> but im missing one, one second, i'll tell you
[01:07] <warlocky> network, and gateway, I dont know if these are correct?
[01:07] <rickblue> ok i will try sudo, thanks frogzoo ! bye ;)
[01:07] <warlocky> mines on network 213.115.236.0, gateway 213.115.236.1 <- is this correct?
[01:08] <bimberi> warlocky: it seems reasonable but there's no way i can tell for sure
[01:08] <Gumby> can anyone here tell me the directory structure of ubuntu's mirrors.  I am running amd64 but looking for a i386 package and cant seem to browse my way in a repo thus far
[01:08] <warlocky> ok, so theres no way to check these for sure?
[01:08] <warlocky> damn. And if its wrong when I try to set a static ip, what can happend?
[01:10] <bimberi> warlocky: ok, so you want to know what static ip information to set?
[01:10] <warlocky> yeah
[01:11] <Blinker> what would I have to do to get embedded media (video, mainly) to play properly in firefox?
[01:11] <bimberi> warlocky: for that network use an address 213.155.236.0 to .254 netmask 255.255.255.255 netmask 213.155.236.244 and the others as you specified earlier
[01:12] <warlocky> wait wait
[01:12] <bimberi> warlocky: sorry make that between .2 and .254
[01:12] <warlocky> can you join #static.talk - I'll copy /paste what I have
[01:14] <Herix> hi there ! :)
[01:16] <llama32> anyone? GTK2/Gnome music player/organizer? something like JuK or Amarok, as opposed to XMMS...
[01:16] <Herix> I'd have a question regarding the BitTorrent client
[01:17] <Herix> afaik, Bittorrent client is shipped and install with the standard distro
[01:17] <Dodzey> llama32: listen, qoud libet, rhythmbox
[01:18] <Dravas> How to install a in Browser media player in Linux
[01:18] <Herix> now : how do you lauch the BitTorrent client since ist is not in the Apps menu
[01:18] <Herix> and I can't figue out wich binary is the right one ?
[01:18] <warlocky> !pastebin
[01:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:19] <frogzoo> Gumby: look in 'pool'
[01:20] <Herix> does anyone knows about this BitTorrent thing?
[01:20] <dapet> If I used the comando "sudo ndiswrapper -m" and the output is "modprobe config already contains alias directive"... what do i do?
[01:21] <frogzoo> has anyone managed to get kqemu with qemu 0.8.2 to work yet?
[01:21] <digibre4k_> i'm coming..
[01:22] <Dravas> How to install a in Browser media player in Linux
[01:22] <dapet> Anyone have experience with installing netgear WG111v2?
[01:22] <appe> http://youtube.com/watch?v=u4ktOrMxAoA
[01:22] <appe> !!
[01:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about ! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:23] <mc__> !
[01:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about ! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:23] <ba5e> can someone explain the difference of a static /dev and a dynamic /dev to me?
[01:23] <Dravas> !web media
[01:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about web media - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:23] <Dravas> boo
[01:23] <Dravas> !video editing
[01:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about video editing - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:23] <Dravas> !video edit
[01:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about video edit - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:23] <Dravas> !video
[01:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about video - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:23] <Dodzey> Dravas....use /msg Ubotu
[01:23] <Dravas> ok
[01:24] <dejx> /home/mato/.setup10526: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:24] <Dodzey> saves cluttering the main channel :)
[01:24] <dejx> what package do i must install?
[01:24] <ba5e> !dumb
[01:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about dumb - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:24] <ba5e> !being clever
[01:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about being clever - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:24] <ompaul> ba5e, you have a point?
[01:24] <dapet> uboutu why do you say that all the time!!!!
[01:24] <frogzoo> ba5e: /dev used to be hand made nodes, but now the udev daemon creates all /dev at boot, from a set of config files
[01:25] <Dodzey> he's a bot, he doesn't have to be clever
[01:25] <[cro] smiley> 
[01:25] <[cro] smiley> how to remove release series at Launchpad.net?
[01:25] <[cro] smiley> 
[01:25] <ba5e> frogzoo, is that after a certain kernel version?
[01:25] <ompaul> [cro] smiley, - don't flood the channel and ask in #launchpad
[01:25] <harm_> Owyah irssi ownage, whats the package name for thunderbird?
[01:25] <ompaul> ba5e, it is all 2.6 kernels
[01:26] <frogzoo> ba5e: it's not greatly kernel dependent afaik
[01:26] <ba5e> ompaul: frogzoo : thanks!
[01:26] <ba5e> firefox just crashed on me :(
[01:27] <[cro] smiley> ompaul, my apologise
[01:27] <harm_> Whats the package name for Thunderbird?
[01:27] <ompaul> k
[01:27] <isak> mozilla-thunderbird?
[01:27] <Dodzey> yup
[01:27] <urakaipa> hi there, there's a way to tell apt to automatically switch to another mirror?
[01:28] <Dodzey> frogzoo: i had a similar thing on my windows box, i got sick of bochs, and used MS Virtual PC..h.aha
[01:28] <harm_> isak thanks u
[01:28] <Dravas> Is there a tutorial on how to veiw and listen to media from within firefox?
[01:28] <harm_> Isak thanks that clears another 30mb =] 
[01:28] <Protocol1> I had a question and I think its a newb question but...does all Debian GNU/Linux commands work in the ubuntu console?
[01:28] <Dodzey> Dravas: what kind of media?
[01:28] <harm_> Protocol1 yes
[01:28] <isak> harm_ :)
[01:28] <harm_> Protocol1 asfar as i know :)
[01:28] <Protocol1> ok....just making it clear
[01:28] <stanwebber> what does the 'quiet' boot option do in /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[01:29] <Dravas> like MP3, and like videos like Diggnation
[01:29] <frogzoo> !restricted > Dravas
[01:29] <frogzoo> Protocol1: you can launch all commands from the command line, yes
[01:30] <stanwebber> i use the mediaplayerconnectivity extention in firefox rather than dealing with plugins
[01:30] <Protocol1> because I printed a reference sheet with a list of commands that I want to use and I didnt want to run into compatibility issues
[01:30] <Protocol1> ok...
[01:30] <frogzoo> stanwebber: with 'quiet' the boot just gives summary startup info
[01:30] <Bassetts> whats the best way to become a linux admin
[01:30] <ompaul> practice
[01:30] <cello_rasp> hi, does nayone know whats goign on with vmware for linux: is it nagware or do i just need a new serial?
[01:30] <Protocol1> yeah...I think the basics are a good way to start
[01:30] <dejx> in what package is glibc ?
[01:31] <dejx> 1.2
[01:31] <stanwebber> frogzoo: how verbose is the startup info without quiet & splash disabled?
[01:31] <Bassetts> ompaul, what certification are good to do?
[01:31] <harm_> whats the package name for gnumeric?
[01:31] <dejx> 2.1 .
[01:31] <ompaul> LPI
[01:31] <Protocol1> Bassetts, try the tutorials at linux.org
[01:31] <Bassetts> ok
[01:31] <Protocol1> they pretty good
[01:31] <isak> Bassetts: comptia linux 2005 and the LPIC.
[01:32] <Protocol1> lots of resources
[01:32] <isak> Bassetts: i've gotten the comptia exam and next week im gonna take LPIC 1.
[01:32] <Bassetts> cool
[01:32] <Protocol1> speaking of that...I want more books
[01:32] <frogzoo> stanwebber: try it & see
[01:32] <harm_> whats the package name for gnumeric?
[01:32] <Protocol1> I can never get enough
[01:32] <Blinker> what do I have to do to get embedded media (video, mainly) to play properly in firefox? the only plugin I can seem to find is for xwindows
[01:32] <bmc> harm_, dunno, but get apt-file it's sweet
[01:33] <harm_> apt-file does what?
[01:33] <stanwebber> Blinker: i use the mediaplayerconnectivity extension in firefox rather than dealing with plugins
[01:33] <isak> harm_: gnumeric
[01:33] <harm_> isak i tried to apt-remove it but it doesnt find anything
[01:33] <dejx> hm.. so nobody knows where glibc-2.1 is ?
[01:33] <dejx> in what package.
[01:33] <isak> harm_: gnumeric-gtk
[01:33] <frogzoo> harm_: lets you search quickly for which package contains particular files - packages.ubuntu.com does the same thing
[01:34] <isak> synaptic searching :)
[01:34] <harm_> frogzoo and bmc thanks for the suggestion but i really dont want extra handy stuff for some situations i wanne get this box minimal
[01:34] <ompaul> Kamping_Kaiser, you may want to check out the deb mirror page I added something to it - maybe its time to give it an index box and make the scripts more declared and no comments one mega one and a "config" file
[01:34] <harm_> though iam fairly new to linux ^^ but i enjoy messing around and just learning things
[01:35] <isak> harm_: aptitude search gnumeric
[01:35] <isak> aptitude rules =)
[01:35] <harm_> isak thanks :)
[01:35] <ompaul> Kamping_Kaiser, sorry hack a config file that puts in options and takes some out etc
[01:35] <harm_> i never really liked aptitude, apt-get works superbly
[01:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> ompaul, ok, i'll look now.
[01:35] <Dodzey> im just qabout on the point of giving up with ACPI....no matter how i set it up...my pc will not switch off when it halts
[01:36] <Dodzey> any ideas?
[01:36] <isak> harm_: apt-get doesn't have the reinstall and search option?
[01:36] <stanwebber> if all the matroxfb modules i need to load are located in /lib/modules/current-kernel does that definitively mean that the kernel was compiled with those options?
[01:36] <isak> harm_: but install is the same as reinstall i think :)
[01:37] <frogzoo> anyone else notice that the latest fglrx (8.27.10) has broken suspend, yet again?
[01:37] <ompaul> Kamping_Kaiser, I have an idea to rock it up a lot but it means desiging the page not the content
[01:37] <isak> harm_: if the package is already installed anyway.
[01:37] <Falcon4> alrighty. yet another linux halfn00b question: mounting a drive image?
[01:37] <frogzoo> !iso
[01:37] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[01:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> ompaul, feel free to change it as much as you like - i'm looking at it now going 'jees, i made pages like that???', actualy, i havent looked at it since i wrote it ;)
[01:38] <jorgg> I have a kernel module that i have to load with then forced option like: modprobe -f modulename.  Is there possible to make my ubuntu use this option when loading this module automatic at startup?
[01:38] <ompaul> Kamping_Kaiser, I will pawn it after lunch then :)
[01:38] <Falcon4> sweet, hope that works for an image of a physical HDD :-)
[01:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> ompaul, np :)
[01:38] <ompaul> might get two euros
[01:38] <Mennez> Uhm...
[01:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> would you like me in -doc to talk about it? or happy here :) *though i was in doc*
[01:38] <ompaul> ahh yes better idea
[01:39] <frogzoo> Falcon4: nope - hdd images aren't iso9660
[01:39] <Mennez> Anybody with super crazy partitioning skills who can tell me how to move my MBR?
[01:39] <harm_> Mennez isnt MBR kinda... frozen?
[01:39] <jorgg> what specifies which modules to be loaded at startup?
[01:40] <Mennez> Nah. When I installed windows XP, I was an idiot. It's on the drive that was supposed to be the slave.
[01:40] <frogzoo> jorgg: /etc/modprobe.d/ & /etc/modules
[01:40] <Falcon4> frogzoo: then i ask again, how do i mount a physical disk image? ;-)
[01:40] <stanwebber> depending on how you partition i believe there can be several backups of the mbr on your hdd
[01:40] <stanwebber> jorgg: possibly /etc/modules
[01:40] <simpo> hi! is there any way to make some "tunnel" to communiacte with ssh-server behind NAT ?
[01:40] <Falcon4> well... there was only one partition (20gb NTFS)
[01:40] <void^> Falcon4: same way, just without specifying iso9660 ;)
[01:40] <timte> Can I run an existing windows installation in Ubuntu using vmware?
[01:40] <jorgg> frogzoo: is it possoble to make modprobe use the -f option when autoloading a module?
[01:40] <Falcon4> and for some reason when i ran that, i got this:
[01:40] <Falcon4> ioctl: LOOP_CLR_FD: Device or resource busy
[01:41] <frogzoo> Falcon4: well if it was an image of the partition, you could make a loopback, but when it's the whole drive, not sure really
[01:41] <Falcon4> i did this: sudo mount -o loop /media/usbdisk-1/PhysicalDisk0.img /media/ntfs
[01:41] <tuxtux__> ciao
[01:41] <frogzoo> jorgg: you could hack it by loading it from /etc/rc.local
[01:42] <Mennez> 80 GB drive == all of windows, my files and everything.  8 GB drive == nothing but the MBR.
[01:42] <Mennez> Is there a program that can move it, or do I need to do it by hand?
[01:42] <Falcon4> got to get into this image somehow, i've got all my life's data in that image in the form of a drive backup :P
[01:42] <Kwong> hi, i've installed w32codecs on Dapper however it seems that i cant play mp3 and wma files, any idea?
[01:42] <wermut> Am I the only one who is bothered by the fact that Nautilus keeps asking whether I want to open execute simple text files?
[01:42] <jorgg> frogzoo: if i add a command there, will it be loaded at startup?
[01:42] <stanwebber> Mennez, did grub or xp overwrite the mbr in question?
[01:43] <wermut> Is there a way to fix this odd behaviour?
[01:43] <wermut> I just want to *open* plain text files.
[01:43] <frogzoo> Falcon4: try: sudo mount -o loop -t ntfs /media/usbdisk-1/PhysicalDisk0.img /media/ntfs
[01:43] <mjr> !tell kwong about restrictedformats
[01:43] <Mennez> I stopped installing ubuntu because I wasn't sure if that would happen. If grub overwrites it and I install ubuntu on the 8, should everything be peachy?
[01:43] <frogzoo> Falcon4: try: sudo mount -o loop -t ntfs /media/usbdisk-1/PhysicalDisk0.img /mnt
[01:44] <frogzoo> Falcon4: bad idea to mount the image over itself ;)
[01:44] <stanwebber> wermut: are those files on a nt or fat partition?
[01:44] <wermut> stanwebber: on a fat partition
[01:44] <Falcon4> lol. i wasn't... :P
[01:44] <Falcon4> but it says something about wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock, etc
[01:44] <isak> jorgg: try to add the force option before the module name in /etc/modules :P
[01:45] <harm_> Can some on help me > UltimeOnline (one of the first MMORPGS) required a encryption to be removed to connect to freeshard(freeservers) However all encryption removers atm require windows.. can some one port one of these or perhaps find a way to remove this encryption for linux users? So that we can also enjoy a good ol' rpg
[01:45] <jorgg> isak: okay Il try! :)
[01:45] <Falcon4> and dmesg | tail tells me a billion NTFS errors
[01:45] <isak> jorgg: doesn't really know how it works.. bu i think every line is modprobed at startup.
[01:45] <frogzoo> Falcon4: how did you create this image? dd if=/dev/hda of=PhysicalDisk0.img ?
[01:46] <Kwong> mjr, i've already installed win32codecs but could play any music, any mp3 file at all
[01:46] <Falcon4> lol, no, i used DiskImage from a windows live CD
[01:46] <stanwebber> wermut: that's normal on my system
[01:46] <Falcon4> just took the whole drive and shoved it off to an img file
[01:46] <jorgg> isak: i added "-f modulename" in the file now.. trying a restart to se how it works.. stay tuned :P
[01:46] <isak> jorgg: i will =)
[01:46] <frogzoo> Falcon4: then if I was you, I'd use diskimage to restore the image somewhere
[01:46] <danny101> is it possible to do a minimal install with the desktop cd? or do i have to download the server cd for that?
[01:46] <isak> jorgg: if it works like i think it would this command should be executed "modprobe -f modulename"
[01:47] <Falcon4> sheeit, you just had to say that, didn't you? :P
[01:47] <harm_> Can some on help me > UltimeOnline (one of the first MMORPGS) required a encryption to be removed to connect to freeshard(freeservers) However all encryption removers atm require windows.. can some one port one of these or perhaps find a way to remove this encryption for linux users? So that we can also enjoy a good ol' rpg
[01:47] <wermut> stanwebber: Does this happen only when the files are stored on a FAT partition?
[01:47] <frogzoo> Falcon4: doubtless diskimage compresses the image & uses a proprietary format to do that, so's the only way
[01:47] <jorgg> isak: yes..
[01:47] <Mennez> Essentially. If I let ubuntu repartition the hdd with the MBR on it, will I still be able to boot windows because grub is there?
[01:48] <Falcon4> nah, it stores in raw data, it's too basic to compress or encrypt... so says the help file (compression: to be added later)
[01:48] <Falcon4> i just think it heads the file with extra unexpected info
[01:48] <stanwebber> wermut: it also persists if you copy the file to a ext2/3 partition until you modify the permissions
[01:49] <danny101> any idea?
[01:49] <frogzoo> Falcon4: well if you could figure out where the first partition starts, you could do this, you'd need to cut off the first 512 byte block or two, but make a backup of the image before you do
[01:49] <jorgg> isak: didnt work, trying again with out the quotes ""
[01:49] <Falcon4> it's on an NTFS volume though, are those still readonly in linux?
[01:50] <isak> jorgg: ahh, no quotes! :D
[01:50] <stanwebber> Mennez: regardless, it's not that difficult to restore a mbr that either grub or xp overwrites
[01:50] <wermut> stanwebber: Now I get it... all files on the FAT partition are marked as executable... I did not notice that. A solution would be to modify the umask setting in /etc/fstab right?
[01:50] <Mennez> Alrighty then. see you all in a bit.
[01:50] <isak> jorgg: only -f modulename
[01:50] <frogzoo> Falcon4: you could try dd if=PhysicalDisk0.img of=x.img bs=512 skip=512 bs=1000000   & then try loopbacking the x.img, & cross your fingers
[01:51] <frogzoo> Falcon4: you could try dd if=PhysicalDisk0.img of=x.img skip=512 bs=1000000   & then try loopbacking the x.img, & cross your fingers
[01:51] <jorgg> isak, it worked! :) thanks!
[01:51] <isak> jorgg: np:)
[01:51] <jorgg> nice
[01:51] <danny101> Is it possible to do a minimal install with the desktop cd? Or do I have to download the server cd for that?
[01:51] <frogzoo> Falcon4: you could try dd if=PhysicalDisk0.img of=x.img skip=1 bs=512   & then try loopbacking the x.img, & cross your fingers
[01:52] <Falcon4> problem is, the image is 20gb, on a 40gb drive/partition, and only that drive available... space becomes an issue...?
[01:52] <Falcon4> isn't there a way to just chop it off to a separate file, forgetting backups?
[01:52] <Falcon4> or, to feed mount the image from a pipe (sans header), or something?
[01:53] <frogzoo> Falcon4: chopping bits off an ntfs image is pretty much guaranteed to ensure your data is irretrievably lost
[01:53] <Falcon4> figures. shit.
[01:53] <stanwebber> wermut: my current options are defaults,umask=0 for my fat partitions.  all files are still executable.  not sure what would fix it
[01:54] <Falcon4> well hell. does ubuntu have a hex editor so i can find the offset? :P
[01:54] <frogzoo> Falcon4: as long as you're not in a hurry, I'd say this was doable, but it will take some tinkering - or a bigger drive
[01:54] <Falcon4> ... that's... huge-file safe?
[01:54] <unikon> can i install open office on Xubuntu or not
[01:54] <avis> unikon, yes
[01:54] <unikon> avis is it available in the software upgrade selection
[01:54] <mandy_moron> anyone know where synaptic downloads files to? - seems a new realplayer is in repos and it's asking for where it was downloaded to
[01:55] <avis> its available in the ubuntu software repositories, yes.. i'd use synaptic to search for it
[01:55] <unikon> ty avis
[01:55] <frogzoo> mandy_moron: /var/cache/apt/
[01:55] <isak> mandy_moron: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[01:56] <isak> ^^
[01:57] <r3l0t3n3ss> hi, i have a problem with my adsl modem
[01:57] <Falcon4> too many damn packages. anyone got a suggestion for a hex editor for huge files?
[01:58] <r3l0t3n3ss> i have frequent disconnections
[01:58] <r3l0t3n3ss> anyone has a solution ?
[01:58] <Falcon4> get a router. ;-)
[01:58] <harm_> Can some one help me with tha UltimaOnline thing?
[01:58] <Falcon4> lol
[01:58] <mandy_moron> cheers isak  -tis in archives
[01:59] <frogzoo> r3l0t3n3ss: take it up with your service provider
[02:00] <r3l0t3n3ss> but it works in windows, and it work on old kernels
[02:00] <r3l0t3n3ss> it is an eagle-based modem
[02:01] <stanwebber> if all the matroxfb modules i need to load are located in /lib/modules/current-kernel does that definitively mean that the kernel was compiled with matroxfb support?
[02:02] <frogzoo> tbh r3l0t3n3ss, if it's a kernel problem, you'd best google for a fix
[02:02] <erUSUL> r3l0t3n3ss: it worked in old kernels? have you investigated the logs? /var/log/messages /var/log/syslog
[02:02] <mirkash> hi, i have an application which tries to use libstdc++.so.5 but I have libstdc++.so.6 installed
[02:02] <tony_> Hi all, simple Ipod question. How do i import music from an ipod video and keep song names and create approporiate folder structure? banshee? amarok? what should i install?
[02:03] <harm_> tony_ there are many options
[02:03] <frogzoo> stanwebber: if the modules are there, they will load ergo kernel supports them
[02:03] <mirkash> how can I solve this
[02:03] <r3l0t3n3ss> erUSUL : yes, but for new kernels, they have released a new driver : eagle-atm
[02:04] <tony_> harm_, what do you reccomend. i read ipods dont keep id3tags but the info must be somewhere? can i keep song names?
[02:04] <erUSUL> mirkash: apt-cache search libstdc++
[02:05] <harm_> tony_ i dont have an ipod but i suggest u just try em all > but i think amarok would be well supported
[02:05] <tony_> ok thanks!
[02:05] <stanwebber> frogzoo: you'd think that wouldn't you, but i'm just stymied trying to get those modules to work.  modprobe successfully loads them, but there is nothing in the system logs to indicate anything
[02:05] <harm_> no problem tony
[02:05] <tripppy> !sunray server software
[02:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about sunray server software - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:06] <harm_> Can some one help me with remove the encryption of UltimaONline so i can play on freeshards
[02:06] <erUSUL> r3l0t3n3ss: the support for eagle usb dsl modems comes in the standar kernel https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbAdslModem/EagleUsb
[02:06] <wermut> stanwebber: I tried modifying umask to 117, but Nautilus expects execute permissions for the folders. So there does not seem to be a real solution.
[02:06] <danny101> Is it possible to do a minimal install with the ubuntu desktop CD?
[02:06] <void^> stanwebber: use something like fmask=1,dmask=0
[02:07] <Guard] [an> please, just got an old P3 box back from the dead. i made a server install. which among IMule,aMule,xMule,MLDonkey would enable me to have my downloads running on this linux box, while having a webadmin interface to trigger new download or do search queries from another computer ???
[02:07] <stanwebber> wermut, like void said.  actually, i've never been bothered by it so i've never persued a fix
[02:08] <r3l0t3n3ss> yes, i compiled it and it works, but i have several disconnections, after some period of time
[02:08] <stanwebber> hell, i run emule under vmware rather than use any of that linux p2p junk
[02:08] <Tuvok> is it possible to boot iso and install ubuntu from hdd? i have broken cdrom
[02:09] <userbn> #semarang
[02:09] <tripppy> does anyone run sun server software
[02:10] <userbn> semsrang
[02:11] <stanwebber> Guard] [an: i believe mldonkey doesn't require x
[02:11] <mirkash> erUSUL: these are the results of apt-cache search http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19861
[02:11] <Guard] [an> gonna try that thx
[02:12] <erUSUL> mirkash: i told you that comand to point out that a 5 version of the library is in the repos and you can install it
[02:13] <erUSUL> !synaptic > mirkash
[02:13] <cherwin> how do you get rid of the Azureus pop-up message? It will not go away when clicking on hide
[02:14] <mirkash> erUSUL:  ok so I can have installed two versions without conflict
[02:14] <mirkash> ?
[02:15] <fyrestrtr> cherwin: its a known bug, the only way is to download the latest version from the website and use that one instead.
[02:15] <erUSUL> mirkash: iirc, yes
[02:16] <cherwin> fyrestrtr, i'm using 2.4.0.2
[02:16] <void^> cherwin: http://azureus.sourceforge.net/index_CVS.php
[02:17] <mirkash> erUSUL: worked, thanks
[02:17] <erUSUL> mirkash: no problem
[02:18] <Tommy> is there a fix for why it wont shut down it just hangs at "will now halt"
[02:19] <cherwin> thanks void^
[02:20] <cherwin> i'm getting lazy tough, this has google written all over it.. sorry
[02:21] <isak> hm, forgot the thing with permissions.. 1 = read, 2 = write, 4 = execute?
[02:22] <recon0> What is it meant by "build enviroment sanity"?
[02:22] <penguin42> recon0: You have everything needed to do a simple build
[02:22] <penguin42> recon0: e.g. a working C compiler for example
[02:23] <khaled_> hi there, i ve a question
[02:24] <santa99> !multimedia > santa99
[02:24] <khaled_> how to add KDE to ubuntu but without changing the screen which shows when the linux is booting to kubuntu?
[02:24] <santa99> !w32codecs > santa99
[02:25] <dreamthief> khaled_, you can revert usplash to the ubuntu  bootscreen after KDE installation ;)
[02:26] <khaled_> dreamthief: how can i do that?
[02:28] <chemaja> my ubuntu is el-crasho -- it just locks up -- is anyone else getting this on a TNT2 using the nv driver?
[02:28] <chemaja> i've switched to the closed nvidia driver -- we'll see how it goes
[02:28] <reztho> hi
[02:28] <dreamthief> try installing galternatives and launch it
[02:29] <dreamthief> search for uslpash-artwork.so in the left collumn
[02:29] <reztho> is there some iptables expert here? prv msg plz
[02:29] <dreamthief> then you can select the splasscreen which will be shown at boottime
[02:29] <isak> does anyone here know umask good?
[02:30] <isak> permissons :)
[02:30] <Rookie-> man ...
[02:30] <Wendelin> Hello, what is the default passwort of root on Dapper Drake?
[02:30] <mc__> Wendelin: root is disabled on ubuntu by default
[02:31] <chicken-man> Wendelin, set it using 'sudo passwd'
[02:31] <isak> yeah, but i dont get it.. if i have a umask of 037 the file i create should have the permission 740. -rwxr----- ?
[02:31] <erUSUL> !root > Wendelin
[02:31] <erUSUL> Wendelin: ubuntu does not have root account and you shouoldn't need one
[02:32] <isak> on my question the correct answer is -rw-r----- with and umask of 037. shouldn't the x be there also?
[02:32] <isak> an*
[02:32] <reztho> well... i'm trying to do a transparent proxy, it works for the lan machine but for my machines the typical PREROUTING iptables line doesn't work, i don't know why
[02:33] <Rookie-> depends on what dist any comes from, most dists have a pwd for root and ppl are used to it ...
[02:33] <Rookie-> took me 3 weeks to get used to sudo
[02:33] <mahnamahna> hi
[02:33] <mahnamahna> i have a problem with gajim
[02:34] <MenZa> ...Gajim?
[02:34] <MenZa> Gaim?
[02:34] <mahnamahna> i`ve asked on the polish irc but nobody have any ideas
[02:34] <mahnamahna> when i try ~gajim
[02:34] <mahnamahna> gajim
[02:34] <mahnamahna> ImportError: could not import bonobo.ui
[02:34] <mahnamahna> Traceback (most recent call last):
[02:34] <mahnamahna>   File "gajim.py", line 1924, in ?
[02:34] <mahnamahna>     cli.set_restart_command(argv)
[02:34] <mahnamahna> AttributeError: '__main__.GnomeClient' object has no attribute 'set_restart_command'
[02:34] <MenZa> O_
[02:35] <erUSUL> mahnamahna: please use pastebin
[02:35] <erUSUL> !paste > mahnamahna
[02:35] <mahnamahna> sorry i forgot
[02:35] <mahnamahna> http://wklej.org/id/53433eb854
[02:35] <erUSUL> mahnamahna: probably you need some python-gnome bindings. try apt-cache search python-gnome or something like that
[02:36] <mahnamahna> I made system upgrade..
[02:36] <mahnamahna> ok I try with python
[02:37] <sktx> anyone know what's up with the repos being so laggy these past couple days?
[02:37] <mahnamahna> I have python-gnome2
[02:38] <mahnamahna> and it didnt help me
[02:38] <chicken-man> sktx: use a mirror
[02:39] <mahnamahna> any ideas...I removed and reinstalled, it also didnt help
[02:40] <PlHL> Hm, I hope someone can help me. Im having troubles using a USB mouse on my ubuntu laptop. If I plug it in it doesn't work at all. If I restart with the mouse, it's just extremely laggy ... Anyone who know how to fix this?
[02:40] <mahnamahna> I really need this progam so if somebody have a solution ...
[02:40] <sktx> wow
[02:40] <sktx> ya know
[02:40] <chicken-man> mahnamahna: try fix the bonobo.ui import error first
[02:40] <sktx> i was having the same problem, PlHL
[02:40] <PlHL> yea+
[02:40] <PlHL> ?
[02:41] <sktx> PlHL: it turned out my mouse was broke, though... sorry.
[02:41] <PlHL> Ah :|
[02:41] <mahnamahna> I`m new user what this mean "fix"?
[02:41] <PlHL> Well, it's not the case here, as I've tried with three different mouses
[02:41] <Guard] [an> hmm
[02:41] <Guard] [an> noticed that aemule-daemon has a dependency on amule
[02:42] <Guard] [an> which seems to be incorrect
[02:42] <Guard] [an> who should be notified of this ?
[02:42] <chicken-man> mahnamahna: open synaptic and search for bonobo, install anything you find, it should fix it hopefully
[02:42] <mahnamahna> ok :)
[02:42] <park_canada> Hello everybody! how do i configure the keys to switch keboard layout? (switch language)
[02:42] <Juhaz> python-gnome2 should have the bonobo module it's complaining about
[02:43] <chicken-man> park_canada: err the the keyboard options in the system menu maybe ?
[02:44] <park_canada> chicken-man: checking
[02:44] <recon0> Is it just me, or are the repos down?
[02:45] <chicken-man> recon0: must be you I just updated them fine
[02:45] <Tommy> is there supposed to be a smiley right at the bottom of http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship and not just a close bracket o_O
[02:45] <ompaul> recon0, as I am building a mirror atm I can safely say they are working away
[02:45] <park_canada> chicken-man: i recivie an error when i try to save changes. where to paste it ?
[02:45] <Guard] [an> please, that aemule-daemon package has an incorrect dependency on amule package, can i change that locally so that all the gui stuff is not installed ???
[02:45] <gidim> So, my first official morning as an Ubuntu user. ^^
[02:45] <chicken-man> park_canada: pastebin.com
[02:46] <Silenti-Ambulo> Hiya Peeps, anyone know how to turn on UDMA for sata ?
[02:46] <PlHL> recon0: Yea the repos are extremely slow these days :|
[02:46] <dr_willis> getting too popular?
[02:46] <PlHL> could be
[02:46] <harm__> I'm having trouble compiling a driver, can somebody please help?
[02:47] <chicken-man> harm_ what driver ?
[02:47] <Silenti-Ambulo> Hiya Peeps, anyone know how to turn on UDMA for sata ?
[02:47] <neutrinomass> Does anybody know when the dapper point release will happen ?
[02:47] <harm__> trying to compile a wireless driver
[02:47] <penguin42> Silenti-Ambulo: You don't need to - sata doesn't work like that
[02:47] <dr_willis> Silenti-Ambulo,  i would guess use of the hdparm command. But ive never seen it done.
[02:47] <park_canada> it takes a little while to send it
[02:47] <harm__> ipw3945-1.1.0
[02:47] <digibre4k_> i have problem whit send a email?
[02:48] <digibre4k_> can you help me?
[02:48] <harm__> chicken-man, Can you help?
[02:48] <chicken-man> harm__: The simple way is just to go buy a new wireless device that works with ubuntu
[02:48] <Silenti-Ambulo> I'm trying to get DVD-Decrypter to work and DVD-Shrink with Wine....... know anything about that??
[02:48] <park_canada> chicken-man: is there any other site to paste code? i dont think its sending my request
[02:48] <harm__> chicken-man, it's a laptop...
[02:48] <chicken-man> harm__: Other than that you can try to compile it, which is quite a challenge :-P
[02:48] <Guard] [an> please, that aemule-daemon package has an incorrect dependency on amule package, can i change that locally so that all the gui stuff is not installed ???  and how could i notify the ones responsible for these packages ???
[02:48] <harm__> chicken-man, and it should work with ubuntu
[02:48] <chicken-man> park_canada: errrm... google :-D
[02:48] <harm__> chicken-man, i probably have a simple problem....
[02:48] <digibre4k_> i have a problem whit send a email
[02:49] <digibre4k_> can you help me?
[02:49] <chicken-man> harm__: hmmmm
[02:49] <cherwin> harm__ what doesn't work?
[02:49] <harm__> can i copy paste error somewhere?
[02:49] <fyrestrtr> has anyone had problems with getting snmp to work on ubuntu? I can't seem to get any data information from snmp queries.
[02:49] <cherwin> harm__ you need to reconfigure and compile your kernel if you want it to compile from source
[02:49] <fyrestrtr> !pastebin
[02:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:50] <chicken-man> harm__: What type of wireless device is it ?
[02:50] <harm__> chicken-man, let me check
[02:51] <cherwin> intel pro wireless 3945
[02:51] <cherwin> harm__: the driver is the same name as the device
[02:52] <harm__> cherwin, jups, thats the one
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> not always
[02:52] <harm__> the error is here:
[02:52] <harm__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19862
[02:52] <park_canada> chicken-man: there u go: http://rafb.net/paste/results/xEtpHy31.html
[02:52] <cherwin> Jack_Sparrow: yeah but it is with intel pro wireless okay
[02:52] <harm__> i'm doing step 1: copiling ieee, but it somehow failes...
[02:52] <harm__> its probably cause i'm missing something
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> agreed, just wanted to clarify
[02:53] <chicken-man> park_canada: I'll take a look
[02:53] <park_canada> just a reminder: this error occurs when i try to configure my keyboard the switch layout keys
[02:53] <park_canada> 10x
[02:53] <cherwin> harm__: you have to install the kernel sources
[02:53] <harm__> cherwin, yes i thought of that....
[02:53] <HeXiOn> hello
[02:53] <digibre4k_> hey somebody help me please!
[02:53] <HeXiOn> I need help
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask
[02:54] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:54] <HeXiOn> how do I init console mode in dapper?
[02:54] <cherwin> harm__: then configure it to use ipw3945, did you read the README? it's all explained in their
[02:54] <harm__> however, i upgraded my kernel to 2.6.15-26-686
[02:54] <chicken-man> park_canada: hmmm
[02:54] <digibre4k_> i have problem with my kubuntu
[02:54] <sobersabre> hi. how do I align hp deskjet printer ?
[02:54] <harm__> how do I install the sources for that?
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> HeXiOn: applications, accessories
[02:55] <park_canada> chicken-man: so what do u think,dok?
[02:55] <cherwin> harm__: sorry can't help you with that, I'm a slackware user, I alway's go to www.kernel.org to get my kernels
[02:55] <HeXiOn> Jack_Sparrow, my X is crashrd, I want to init without X
[02:55] <Jack_Sparrow> HeXiOn: and remeber no root password, use sudo or gksudo or kdesu
[02:55] <chicken-man> park_canada: I'm not too sure as far as I can tell there is a problem with the XKB configuration
[02:55] <HeXiOn> from grub...
[02:56] <Jack_Sparrow> HeXiOn: Cant help you there, dont know how you can do it.
[02:56] <harm__> can somebody tell me how to install the kernel source for 2.6.15-26-686?
[02:56] <park_canada> chicken-man: i must go, 10x anyway.
[02:56] <harm__> using ubuntu ofcourse
[02:56] <HeXiOn> ok, thanks anyway Jack ;)
[02:56] <Jack_Sparrow> !sources
[02:56] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:56] <PeterPowell> hello all
[02:56] <dr_willis> !kernel
[02:56] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[02:56] <Jack_Sparrow> wrong sorry
[02:56] <PeterPowell> Is It Possible To Set Single Click
[02:56] <roryyy48> hy
[02:57] <shinobi2> how safe is get-apt ?  i use synaptic get update my packages, updating packages might make it easier for trojan horse invade?
[02:57] <shinobi2> s/ apt-get
[02:57] <HeXiOn> please, somebody help me. My system crashed when installing a theme for gnome. And it wont run. Error in preferences administrator". I need to start ubuntu WITHOUT X... somebody can help me?
[02:57] <dr_willis> synaptic is a front end to apt-get
[02:57] <dr_willis> !apt-get
[02:57] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[02:57] <PeterPowell> Is It Possible To Set Single Click
[02:58] <dr_willis> HeXiOn,  boot to single user mode. or rescue mode.  or at the GDM login screen just alt-ctrl-f1 to get to the console..
[02:58] <dr_willis> HeXiOn,  not sure where the themne settings are at. they are in the .gnome* dirs somwhere.
[02:58] <Jack_Sparrow> HeXiOn: how were you trying to install that theme, which theme, and were you doing it as sudo?
[02:58] <HeXiOn> dr_willis, ubuntu crashes, alt-ctrl dont work
[02:59] <HeXiOn> and nor login screen :(
[02:59] <cherwin> !grub
[02:59] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:59] <dr_willis> HeXiOn,  Hmmm... somthing seems VERY odd that a user can install a theme and it takes out the whole system
[02:59] <PeterPowell> !single click
[02:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about single click - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:59] <chicken-man> HeXi0n, boot in single user mode
[02:59] <shinobi2> dr_willis, i update packages like crazy after i install ubuntu.  now i am wondering if i  installed anything harmful.
[02:59] <PeterPowell> Is It Possible To Set Single Click, anybody know
[02:59] <HeXiOn> chicken-man, how do I do that?
[02:59] <dr_willis> shinobi2,  doubtfull
[02:59] <chicken-man> HeXi0n, Should be by default in the GRUB boot menu
[03:00] <HeXiOn> dr_willis, I run compiz and xgl, and tried to install a theme on gnome
[03:00] <dr_willis> PeterPowell,  i think it is.. check the mouse settings control panel thing.
[03:00] <dr_willis> HeXiOn,  well theres the problem. :P
[03:00] <PeterPowell> i cant find it there
[03:00] <Jack_Sparrow> shinobi2: if it is from the repos.. you are fine.
[03:00] <PeterPowell> !click
[03:00] <ubotu> I know nothing about click - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:00] <HeXiOn> chicken-man, I deleted safe-mode entries on grub :(
[03:00] <fistandantilus> ...
[03:01] <HeXiOn> someone can paste them, please?
[03:01] <shinobi2> Jack_Sparrow, so it's hard for someone to hack into the repos and upload bugs?
[03:01] <fistandantilus> now how smart is that?
[03:01] <Jack_Sparrow> shinobi2: yes, you are safe
[03:01] <Falcon4> ugh. for the third time, this should be an easy question... anyone know a hex editor in ubuntu that can handle huge (20gb) files?
[03:01] <chicken-man> HeXi0n, replace it ;-)
[03:01] <neutrinomass> Does anybody know when/if there will be a dapper point release ?
[03:01] <whaley> I just purchased a linksys wmp54G wireless pci card.  I installed the card and booted to Dapper fine the first time.  I tried to configure the card to use a WPA-SPK(?) connection but I coulkdn't enter a WPA key (i was only given an option for WEP).  I restarted the machine (for another reason besides the card) and now Ubuntu will not boot past the message that reads "Configuring Networking Devices" when the card is installed.  I c
[03:01] <whaley> an take the card out and ubuntu boots fine.  Any suggestions?
[03:01] <a_l_e> can somebody help to find the correct parameters if ffmpeg can't convert one file from flv to mpg?
[03:01] <dr_willis> Falcon4,  vi has a binary mode. :P  other then that - check freshmeat for a dedcated hex editor.
[03:02] <HeXiOn> chiken-man, how do I replace it? (I supose you reffer on setting a default menu.lst)
[03:02] <Falcon4> damn. alright. i can't install programs (i'm not THAT advanced yet)... so this is gonna be fun.
[03:02] <chicken-man> HeXi0n, kernel <kernel location> <root> ro single
[03:02] <HeXiOn> ok
[03:02] <HeXiOn> thanks a lot
[03:02] <chicken-man> HeXi0n, ;-)
[03:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Falcon4: did you check tha repos?
[03:02] <dr_willis> Falcon4,  apt-get install whatever :P
[03:02] <whaley> is there a file in /etc/ that, when the card is installed, is trying to connect to the wireless network and hangs because it cannot?
[03:02] <dr_willis> Falcon4,  apt-cache search hexeditor
[03:02] <Falcon4> well, still, i don't even know the NAME of one
[03:03] <HeXiOn> thanks everybody who helped me, going to try to restore my system ;)
[03:03] <HeXiOn> bye
[03:03] <sobersabre> can somebody direct me what should I read to be able to align my hp deskjet printer ?
[03:03] <dr_willis> Falcon4,  apt-get is an amazing system :P all sorts of search features
[03:03] <dr_willis> !apt-get
[03:03] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[03:03] <shinobi2> Jack_Sparrow, what if it's an inside job? someone inside ubuntu betrayed the humanity? =)
[03:03] <void^> whaley: it's probably trying to get an ip via dhcp, default timeout should be a minute.
[03:04] <whaley> void^: upon booting, it does not timeout... i ate a full breakfast while waiting :)
[03:04] <Jack_Sparrow> shinobi2: not just anyone has access and we would know it as soon as someone tried it and it would be fixed in hours and NOT months
[03:04] <fistandantilus> shinobi2: thats a little paranoid, were you afraid of Y2K as well?
[03:04] <Jack_Sparrow> shinobi2: this isnt M$
[03:04] <dr_willis> :P
[03:04] <zukero> hi
[03:04] <void^> whaley: hm, check your /etc/network/interfaces, make sure the interface isn't set to auto
[03:04] <Falcon4> ghex. know if it can handle massive files?
[03:05] <Jack_Sparrow> fistandantilus: After M$ and spyware in a security upgrade he has reason to be paranoid.
[03:05] <zukero> how can I watch h264 videos inn breezy ?
[03:05] <shinobi2> fistandantilus, yeah, i am a little paranoid.  i am new to ubuntu.  no i was not afradif of y2k
[03:05] <void^> zukero: mplayer
[03:05] <zukero> it failed
[03:05] <whaley> void^: should I assign it a static ip just to make sure it gets something, at least initially?
[03:05] <zukero> void^ : says : can't initialize video out (vo)
[03:05] <fistandantilus> Jack_Sparrow: i wouldnt know about those evil MS things
[03:05] <chicken-man> shinobi2: Linux is very secure you need not worry about viruses, spyware, etc at all ;-)
[03:05] <Jack_Sparrow> I do
[03:05] <mc__> zukero: try mplayer -vo xover filename
[03:05] <zukero> mc__ ok
[03:06] <void^> whaley: it shouldn't touch an interface that's not set to auto
[03:06] <Jack_Sparrow> shinobi2: relax, you are with friends now not some big money grubbing company
[03:06] <shinobi2> chicken-man, i am not new to linux.  just new to apt-get
[03:06] <whaley> void^: you mean the kernel upon booting shouldn't? (?)
[03:06] <harm__> how can i resolve this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19862, i have tried installing the kernel source, but still this does not resolve my problem
[03:06] <mc__> zukero: does it work?
[03:06] <Jack_Sparrow> shinobi2: that let the gov spy on its citizens in exchange for dropping the anti-trust lawsuit
[03:07] <zukero> mc__ nope, but i retried without -vo and it worked... ??
[03:07] <zukero> mc__ : didn't before
[03:07] <mc__> zukero: spoky
[03:07] <zukero> mc__ : nevermind thx
[03:07] <fistandantilus> theres probably a better chance of compiling a bugged/bad program from source than getting it from apt-get
[03:07] <ompaul> !offtopic
[03:07] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:07] <neenaoffline> are there any ubuntu repos other than the official ones ?
[03:07] <mc__> zukero: you'Re welcome
[03:07] <whaley> void^: I will give that shot, thanks :)
[03:07] <mc__> neenaoffline: yes for instance seveas rep
[03:07] <Falcon4> dude! ubuntu can spin down USB hard drives?!!?!!
[03:08] <void^> whaley: well the kernel doesn't really do much with it anyway, if it hangs at configuring network devices it's trying to bring up interfaces listed in that file ;)
[03:08] <Seveas> Falcon4, yes, if you want it to
[03:08] <harm__> anyone? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19862
[03:08] <neenaoffline> are there any ubuntu repos other than the official ones ?
[03:08] <Falcon4> holy fuckin shit, that'll save YEARS of drive wear :D
[03:08] <Seveas> !language > Falcon4
[03:08] <dr_willis> Falcon4,  and Hopefully they will spin up when needed.
[03:08] <Falcon4> feeh. so pardon my native language. :P
[03:09] <Seveas> harm__, apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[03:09] <dr_willis> Falcon4,  actually my usb drives auto spin down. reguardless of the OS>
[03:09] <chicken-man> Blow up :-D
[03:09] <visik7> but In the guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild there isn't explained how to compile restricted
[03:09] <Falcon4> lol, yeah, i heard my USB drive spin up and i'm like, WTF?
[03:09] <harm__> Seveas, I tried that
[03:09] <harm__> Seveas, still the same error
[03:09] <M_Fatih> hiux, i want to run a program with crossoveroffice's wine. but wine working as windoz98 my program requires winxp, how can i change my crossoveroffice's win. version?
[03:09] <dr_willis> Falcon4,  its just that Linux tends to do lots of little writes.
[03:09] <Bassetts> can someone recommend some good linux books for someone who wants to get into Linux and programming, or websites
[03:09] <neenaoffline> mc__: could you give me links if you know more ?
[03:09] <eigenlambda> graphviz takes *forever* to graph my dependency tree
[03:09] <Falcon4> lol, Windows never spins down my external drives, no matter what i have spin-down set to and if i have no files open :P
[03:09] <lopzided> Bassetts, i like Linux In A Nutshell
[03:10] <dr_willis> Bassetts,  oodles of web sites and some online books. I always check the bargin bins at the book stores. There IS also supposed to be a few Ubuntu Specific books comming out.
[03:10] <Falcon4> so naturally that's a huge phenomenon for me :P
[03:10] <Ronz> Falcon4, what does it mean to "spin down" a usb drive?
[03:10] <harm__>  Seveas: linux-headers-2.6.15-26-686 is already the newest version.
[03:10] <Falcon4> interestingly, i tried opening that 20gb image file and it says "Can not open file!"...
[03:10] <mc__> neenaoffline: why do you want inofficial packages?
[03:10] <chicken-man> Bassetts: Linux programming is mostly the same as windows
[03:10] <neenaoffline> mc__: just like that .........
[03:10] <Falcon4> Ronz: USB hard drives... in windows i've never seen them spin down.
[03:10] <neenaoffline> mc__: mc = Midnight Commander ??
[03:10] <mc__> neenaoffline: yes
[03:11] <neenaoffline> mc__: cool , I like it and emelFM too
[03:11] <mc__> neenaoffline: you should not use unofficial packages just for fun
[03:11] <neenaoffline> mc__: Okay
[03:11] <digibre4k_> hi why
[03:11] <neenaoffline> mc__: but , do you know of any ?
[03:11] <Ronz> Falcon4, but what is spinning down a usb drive? lol
[03:12] <lhds> when i insert saa7134 witch is my tv chipname im /etc/modules i get a flood a startup saying saa7134 unknown parameter "dsp-nc" what the hell?
[03:12] <Falcon4> Ronz: uhm... shutting it down to cool off/save power/etc
[03:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Bassetts: great free linux book in pdf  http://www.suseblog.com/index.php
[03:12] <mc__> neenaoffline: mplayer and wine have for instance one
[03:12] <BlueEagle> neenaoffline: If you don't know how to find unofficial packages you are probably better off without them. Unofficial packages are usually unofficial because they tend to break your system. :)
[03:12] <shinobi2> i updated the kernel, now the boot-up splash screen shows kubuntu (blue) instead of ubuntu (brown).  how do i change the splash screen back to (brown)?
[03:12] <mc__> neenaoffline: with their rep in you sources.list you always get the lates mplayer/wine version
[03:13] <harm__> Seveas, Any other ideas?
[03:13] <neenaoffline> BlueEagle: heh
[03:13] <mc__> theres also the penguin liberation front with has some multimedia packages IIRC
[03:13] <neenaoffline> I wanna know where I can get more games for ubuntu
[03:13] <mc__> and seveas' rep
[03:13] <chicken-man> shinobe2: remove the splash screen, just remove 'splash' from the boot options in /boot/grub/menu.lst ;-)
[03:14] <lhds> when i insert saa7134 witch is my tv chipname im /etc/modules i get a flood a startup saying saa7134 unknown parameter "dsp-nc" what the hell?
[03:14] <Jack_Sparrow> sauerbratten is a cool fps for linux and its free
[03:14] <BlueEagle> neenaoffline: did you try http://www.google.com/search?q=linux%20games
[03:14] <shinobi2> neenaoffline, i want to get that 'breaker' game on ubuntu, the game has a bar and you bounce the ball back and forth to break all blocks of the wall.
[03:14] <chicken-man> Jack_Sparrow: I love sauerbraten :-P
[03:14] <Jack_Sparrow> me too
[03:14] <Jack_Sparrow> the game and the food
[03:14] <santa99> how can i update my kernel
[03:15] <mc__> neenaoffline: the source-o-matic knows some unofficial packages
[03:15] <mc__> !easysource > neenaoffline
[03:15] <chicken-man> santa99: wait for ubuntu to update it ;-)
[03:15] <lhds> santa99 seach in google update kernel + ubuntu
[03:15] <Falcon4> at this very moment i can't even express how much i dearly love Wine.
[03:15] <Jack_Sparrow> What is the name of the Linux loader for some M$ games.. begins with L I think..
[03:15] <Falcon4> the only decent torrent client on the internet is uTorrent, and it's a windows program. it works nearly seamlessly in Wine. :P
[03:15] <santa99> chicken-man, key
[03:16] <dr_willis> Jack_Sparrow,  Huh? You refering to LILO ?
[03:16] <neenaoffline> are there any *games only* repos ?
[03:16] <chicken-man> Falcon4: it works in Wine, great I've got to try that :-D
[03:16] <shinobi2> wow!!! sauerbraten has nice graphics
[03:16] <epinephrine> azureus is kinda nice if you don't trust wine and have a decent amount of ram :p
[03:16] <dr_willis> shinobi2,  :P
[03:16] <Jack_Sparrow> dr_willis:  no
[03:16] <chicken-man> santa99: What ?
[03:16] <santa99> chicken-man, okey
[03:16] <mc__> neenaoffline: a lots of games are in universe
[03:17] <santa99> chicken-man, to lazy to right the whole okey :)
[03:17] <j_goddess> can I say holy criizap
[03:17] <Jack_Sparrow> I lost my bookmarks but it is a front end to load MS games from cd
[03:17] <j_goddess> there are lot of pople on this channel
[03:17] <chicken-man> santa99: :-P
[03:17] <Falcon4> chicken-man: just be sure to set your torrent-locations to paths underneath a mapped folder... it seems to be bitchy about where you put things. doesn't like that linux stuff. also has bugs with large files (>2gb?)...
[03:17] <neenaoffline> mc__: not such a lot ......
[03:17] <dr_willis> Jack_Sparrow,  your use of the term 'load' is vague. The only way to run windows games under linux is wine, or one of its variants, or a emulated system.
[03:18] <Falcon4> tried checking a 3.6gb ISO and it fails with "No access to memory location" :(
[03:18] <chicken-man> Falcon4: :-P maybe I could port it to Linux, It's the best torrent client I've used in a long while
[03:18] <mahnamahna> chicken-man i installed bonobo
[03:18] <Guard] [an> please, the aemule-daemon package has an incorrect dependency on amule package which causes lot of gui stuff to be installed (xlib, gtk, freetype, wxwidgets...), can i change that locally so that all the gui stuff is not installed ???  and how could i notify the ones responsible for these packages ???
[03:18] <Jack_Sparrow> dr_willis: I think its loki installer..
[03:18] <mc__> neenaoffline: well cause ubuntu wants you not to game but to do something productive ;)
[03:18] <chicken-man> mahnamahna: and ?
[03:18] <Falcon4> lol, Firon mentioned maybe making a "port" using some Wine libraries
[03:18] <mahnamahna> but steal can`t use gajim
[03:18] <neenaoffline> mc__: heh
[03:18] <mc__> Jack_Sparrow: with loki you cant play windows games
[03:18] <dr_willis> Jack_Sparrow,  thats just a game installer, from the loki company. It dont have much to do with 'ms games' :)
[03:19] <chicken-man> Falcon4: by port I mean convert the code to something that will work in Linux ;-)
[03:19] <mahnamahna> no gajim
[03:19] <Falcon4> hahahahaha, i wonder if i could run the MS Entertainment Pack under Wine... chips challenge, that ball/wall game (the heck's its name??)...
[03:19] <Falcon4> chicken-man: no such luck, it's closed source, lol
[03:20] <chicken-man> Falcon4: oh.... damnit
[03:20] <dr_willis> Falcon4,  most of those games have linux variants that are identical.
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> mc__: It let me run my serious sam M$ game in linux
[03:20] <Falcon4> CHIPS CHALLENGE DARNIT! :D
[03:20] <dr_willis> Jezzball
[03:20] <Falcon4> that's the one.
[03:20] <chicken-man> Falcon4: You mean the game Pong ?
[03:20] <Falcon4> lmfao. no! :P
[03:20] <dr_willis> check freshmeat or the Linux Game tome - for games.
[03:20] <chicken-man> Falcon4: xD
[03:20] <Falcon4> that one where the little guy walks around collecting chips and beating puzzles :P
[03:21] <neenaoffline> dr_willis: innoculus too
[03:21] <Falcon4> solving, beating... feh
[03:21] <fyrestrtr> anyone remember the game digger?
[03:21] <chicken-man> Falcon4: errr...
[03:21] <mc__> Jack_Sparrow:  loki-installer cannot do that
[03:21] <chicken-man> fyrestrtr: you mean the one with the falling stones ?
[03:21] <mahnamahna> i didnt install gtkhtml, libbonobo1-3dev,
[03:21] <Falcon4> sheesh. uT is still checking my torrent drive... lol
[03:21] <fyrestrtr> Falcon4: for your ball/wall game, try libreakout2, briquolo
[03:21] <mahnamahna> but i think its not neccesary
[03:21] <Jack_Sparrow> I dont use wine or cdega and I ran Serious sam from the cd so how did it work?
[03:22] <Falcon4> fyrestrtr: lol, not THAT brick/wall game
[03:22] <mahnamahna> http://wklej.org/id/53433eb854
[03:22] <Falcon4> fyrestrtr: the one where the balls bounce around and you try masking areas out with walls, and the ball can't crash into the wall until it's built...
[03:22] <chicken-man> Falcon4: PacMan ?
[03:22] <mc__> Jack_Sparrow: theres win4lin
[03:22] <dr_willis> Jack_Sparrow,  its possible they had a native linux port.
[03:23] <Ronz> hey, i like the little things in KDE, like the scrolling progress bar, shadowed drop down menu's, etc. how do i get that without having to install kde-desktop?
[03:23] <Bergcube> I need some clarification... I am interested in installing Hula on a server. On the Hula homepage it says it needs -among othe stuff- apache. BUT! When I mark it for installation on the Ubuntu-server Synaptic says nothing about needing to install apache as well. And apache isn't installed there already. So is the Ubuntu Hula package NOT dependent on apache after all, or will it simply fail disgracefully if I try to install it?
[03:23] <chicken-man> Ronz: I would just install KDE, so much more simple
[03:24] <Ronz> chicken-man, but i love gnome. =)
[03:24] <chicken-man> Ronz: I use both of them... wait I also use fluxbox and XFCE :-D
[03:24] <Ronz> hehe
[03:24] <fyrestrtr> chicken-man: yeah, that's the one :)
[03:24] <Ronz> chicken-man, it messed w/ my boot splash screen
[03:24] <Ronz> so i was like oh no!
[03:25] <mahnamahna> chicken-man i have this problem because i made system upgrade and after this upgrade i havent gajim, i work on Gnome cause fluxbox dont go
[03:25] <chicken-man> Ronz: Disable it ? I always disable mine... for some reason the white text looks so much nicer xD
[03:25] <Falcon4> oohhh, this is weird... getting a million "No more files" errors for folders with many files in uTorrent through Wine... sheesh, the limitations just keep coming :(
[03:25] <Ronz> chicken-man, you can disable that?? how?
[03:25] <mahnamahna> and i dont have icons in "start" menu
[03:25] <Falcon4> er, no, it seems more like long folder names that have the trouble :(
[03:25] <fyrestrtr> Bergcube: Hula is very unstable (atleast the one in the repository) I suggest you compile it from source if you are going to try it.
[03:25] <ryan_naruto> is vmware a good thing to install to run my windows apps.. wine cant run most of the things i want
[03:25] <mahnamahna> you have so much conversations :P
[03:26] <chicken-man> fyrestrtr: The is a KDE remake of it... cannot remember what it's called kstones maybe
[03:26] <dr_willis> vmware runs a whole OS.  it depends on what you are running.
[03:26] <chicken-man> Ronz: /etc/grub/menu.lst
[03:26] <fyrestrtr> chicken-man: but I miss the little digger buggy thing :(
[03:26] <Bergcube> fyrestrtr~  Thanks, useful advice indeed!!  I am still eager to find out: Will the poor server need to have apavhe running or not, in order to get Hula happy?
[03:27] <chicken-man> Ronz: find the bit that boots the default ubuntu system and remove the splash word on the kernel line
[03:27] <fyrestrtr> Bergcube: for the web front end ("dragonfly") you need apache with mod_python.
[03:27] <Ronz> ok. you sure thats where it is?
[03:27] <dapet> Anyone have esperience with installing Netgear WG111v2?
[03:27] <Ronz> cant find that file
[03:27] <ryan_naruto> could we get vmware for free???
[03:27] <Bergcube> fyrestrtr~  Aha.  I see!  Thanks again.
[03:28] <chicken-man> Ronz: I mean /boot/grub/menu.lst woops
[03:28] <dr_willis> there is a free release of vmware now. and then theres qemu
[03:28] <Ronz> chicken-man, /boot/grub/menu.lst ;)
[03:28] <Ronz> lol
[03:28] <Falcon4> for those interested... http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?pid=199920#p199920 :)
[03:28] <mahnamahna> ok by
[03:28] <j_goddess> Falcon4: what is that?
[03:28] <ryan_naruto> dr_willis could you post the link of free vmware what ive search is the 30days evaluation
[03:28] <tinkerer> how can i get xfmedia to play foo.mp3 after one hour?
[03:28] <j_goddess> chicken-man: kstones?
[03:28] <Falcon4> j_goddess: my post about getting teh U running under teh Tux :-)
[03:28] <fyrestrtr> tinkerer: cron?
[03:28] <Ronz> thanks chicken-man . ive been loking r that for a while
[03:29] <j_goddess> oh..
[03:29] <j_goddess> thanks :)
[03:29] <tinkerer> sleep?
[03:29] <chicken-man> j_goddess, I think thats it
[03:29] <j_goddess> k thanks
[03:29] <j_goddess> hehe
[03:29] <j_goddess> HI GUYS
[03:29] <j_goddess> where is everybody at?
[03:29] <chicken-man> Ronz: No problem ;-) I found it by playing around with boot options
[03:29] <j_goddess> i'm at work this morning in tejas :)
[03:29] <fyrestrtr> !info kstones
[03:29] <ubotu> Package kstones does not exist in dapper
[03:29] <fyrestrtr> hrmm...
[03:29] <Ronz> hehe
[03:30] <j_goddess> well
[03:30] <j_goddess> just see if we can port
[03:30] <j_goddess> it
[03:30] <j_goddess> does it belong in debian?
[03:30] <chicken-man> fyrestrtr: I thought it was Kstones hmmm
[03:30] <chicken-man> fyrestrtr: oh well it's in the KDE games package ;-)
[03:31] <dr_willis> :)
[03:31] <j_goddess> nah it keeps bring up kidney stones
[03:31] <j_goddess> ?
[03:31] <j_goddess> =P
[03:31] <tuxtux__> reboot
[03:31] <fyrestrtr> hey, try briquolo -- I've only managed to get to level 3
[03:31] <fyrestrtr> and that was after 4 tries
[03:32] <fyrestrtr> any donkey kong-type games?
[03:32] <dr_willis> Ill stick to "Rocks And Diamonds" its a classic
[03:32] <romana> hi, anyone know if irssi is included on dapper install cd?
[03:32] <romana> or is in default install?
[03:32] <j_goddess> well if not you can apt-get it
[03:32] <j_goddess> but I think it is
[03:33] <Ronz> gold star for chicken-man for today. =)
[03:33] <j_goddess> I've always gone right from install
[03:33] <chicken-man> romana, nope
[03:33] <Alvaro_x7BB> mornin'
[03:33] <romana> thx j_goddess
[03:33] <j_goddess> np
[03:33] <Alvaro_x7BB> Anyone who has an ITE 8212 raid ?
[03:33] <chicken-man> Ronz: :-D
[03:33] <fyrestrtr> !software
[03:33] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, apt-cache, the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[03:34] <AlexBO_> hello!i've a problem with the iso of dapper drake. i've downloaded it and add to it some files (pdf). so in the dvd there are two directories more, but now it doesn't work at boot time.how can i fix it?
[03:34] <void^> Alvaro_x7BB: i do, never used its raid features though.. i trust software raid more than a 10 bucks raid controller ;)
[03:34] <romana> is a question asked in another channel, as I have a ridiculously customised xubuntu, is hard for me to say;)
[03:34] <chicken-man> AlexBO_ Don't add to it ;-)
[03:35] <Alvaro_x7BB> void^, for some reason, I got the kernel up n' running, but two disks are present (raid mirror in bios)
[03:35] <fyrestrtr> AlexBO_: simple, don't add files to it.
[03:35] <chicken-man> AlexBO_: reburn the disk as normal ;-)
[03:35] <fyrestrtr> dr_willis: open up the iso in something like nero, add files to it.
[03:35] <AlexBO_> chicken-man, yes but a friend of mine lives 50 km far away from here and now she's got problems with her computer. she has only that dvd.how can i do?
[03:36] <dr_willis> fyrestrtr,  and hope it dont mess up the bootable files. :P
[03:36] <Ronz> ...i cant see why i used windows for all those years
[03:36] <fyrestrtr> dr_willis: yeah, most people forget about *that* part
[03:36] <metalzelo> Hey... I want my keyboard to display one ^ with every ^ I hit. Now I have to hit the ^ twice for getting one of them. Im new to ubuntu and to gnome. With Suse and KDE, this option was no problem at all. But I couldnt find any option for it at gnome/ubuntu
[03:36] <chicken-man> AlexBO_: does she have a internet connection ?
[03:36] <j_goddess> AlexBO_: send her two disk
[03:36] <ron999> how do i put xmms player in path to hear streaming radio
[03:36] <fyrestrtr> metalzelo: sounds like a problem with your repeat rate.
[03:37] <AlexBO_> chicken-man, no, she's got 56k
[03:37] <fyrestrtr> metalzelo: either that, or you have spilled wayyy too much coke in your keyboard.
[03:37] <void^> Alvaro_x7BB: hrm, check with google, i think i've seen something about that somewhere.. probably need a newer version of the driver or a special option for raid mode
[03:37] <lhds> how to unlink a link?
[03:37] <AlexBO_> chicken-man, she's downloading a linux bootable floppy. can she start ubuntu dvd from there?
[03:37] <metalzelo> fyrestrtr: no, thats because you can hit ^ and a for getting a , but you can switch this function of somewhere
[03:37] <Alvaro_x7BB> ok, thx void^
[03:37] <void^> Alvaro_x7BB: however, it8212 isn't real hardware raid anyway, just use software raid
[03:38] <chicken-man> AlexBO_: errrm maybe I'm not sure anyone has tried it before
[03:38] <fyrestrtr> metalzelo: aah, maybe you need to adjust you keymap? Try System > Preferences > Keyboard
[03:38] <AlexBO_> chicken-man, is there a way?
[03:38] <lhds> how to unlink a link?
[03:38] <AlexBO_> chicken-man, with chroot?
[03:38] <metalzelo> I've checked out every single function there but couldnt find anything
[03:38] <ryan_naruto> anyone has used win4lin??? is it good to run in linux
[03:38] <ron999> how do i put xmms player in path to hear streaming radio?
[03:38] <chicken-man> AlexBO_: I can't say for sure but I expect so
[03:39] <fyrestrtr> lhds: rm the link
[03:39] <metalzelo> I'm working with a german keyboard layout
[03:39] <fyrestrtr> metalzelo: what did you use in suse to adjust it?
[03:39] <metalzelo> YaST2
[03:39] <lhds> what?
[03:39] <lhds> rm is remove files
[03:39] <AlexBO_> chicken-man, no, it doesn't work because there isn't /bin/bash
[03:40] <lhds> i am talking about links between folders
[03:40] <fyrestrtr> metalzelo: what option, specifically.
[03:40] <fyrestrtr> lhds: its the same command.
[03:40] <metalzelo> uhm... dont know... wait a minute I'll check it out
[03:40] <Jack_Sparrow> mc__:  dr_willis  for the record, I just downloaded the loki installer for serious sam 8meg (clearly not the linux version of the game.  It took my Windows CD of the game, installed it into Ubuntu and runs fine.
[03:40] <chicken-man> AlexBO_:  :-/ I don;t understand what are you trying to do ?
[03:40] <lhds> whats the attribute than
[03:40] <fyrestrtr> lhds: man rm
[03:40] <lhds> it tells me that they are directories
[03:40] <lhds> i dont see !
[03:41] <cherwin> lhds: rm -r !!
[03:41] <mc__> Jack_Sparrow: well the installer proably just usese the serious sam data files
[03:41] <lhds> ur crazy
[03:41] <mc__> Jack_Sparrow: Serious Sam runs on linux natively
[03:41] <ron999> how do i put xmms player in path to hear streaming radio
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> How
[03:42] <j_goddess> ron999: do you have the program open?
[03:42] <romana> you know, it is surprisingly difficult to find a definitive lit of whats on teh cd
[03:42] <|thunder> fpr the love of god ron999 you still here asking that shit ?
[03:42] <romana> list even
[03:42] <ron999> j_goddess i will open it now
[03:42] <|thunder> you were here 12 hours ago asking the exact same thing
[03:42] <AlexBO_> chicken-man, there is a file into the dvd. it explains how to set a SBM floppy disk
[03:42] <Jack_Sparrow> I have the windows cd, tell me how to get it to run without, vmware, wine or any of that and without getting the linux version
[03:43] <ron999> j_goddess it's open now
[03:43] <debu> Hi *
[03:43] <dr_willis> Jack_Sparrow,  look on that Serious Sam cd - theres proberly a Linux directory. Or the Installer  had the Linux binary, then used the windows cd to get the data files from.
[03:43] <debu> Having some problem to configure locales
[03:43] <metalzelo> fyrestrtr: Im back, its at: Yast - Hardware - Keyboard Layout - Variante - deadgraveacute
[03:44] <j_goddess> ron999: rt click scroll down under play
[03:44] <j_goddess> tah dah
[03:44] <debu> exact error is : Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. Using the fallback 'C' locale.
[03:44] <Zyfo> I'm having some "troubles" setting up my keyboard shortcuts, anyone got any examples of how they set up their shortcuts (workspace and all that)? Or maybe some site dealing with the subject?
[03:45] <ron999> j_goddess i don't understand
[03:45] <debu> any idea how to fix it .
[03:45] <j_goddess> ron999: do you know how to right clink.. right clink on the interface until you see where it has play as anoption. under play choose play location
[03:45] <tuxtux__> ciao
[03:45] <fyrestrtr> metalzelo: System > Preferences > Keyboard > Layouts > Add.. then click on Germany, then click on Dead grave acute
[03:45] <Jack_Sparrow> dr_willis: NO linux directory 8 meg is not the game binary.  The point is... Loki installer will let a person with that has the M$ games listed install in linux and run without d/l ing the linux version..
[03:45] <debu> I tried to fix it with  sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales but that didn't fix ti
[03:46] <crayzee> I have a large number of very similar 1-2MB tbz2 files that I wish to make take up less space. Is there a simple way to do this? I am sure that there is a large amount of duplicated data between each file. Any ideas?
[03:46] <dr_willis> Jack_Sparrow,  you are confused.. there is a native linux port of that game. the loki installer got it from somewhere and is using the windows data files.
[03:46] <crayzee> [The files are periodic backups of the same folder] 
[03:46] <metalzelo> fyrestrtr: I cant find the dead grave acute button or whatever there
[03:47] <debu> I also get the following error when I try to copile any c code :
[03:47] <debu> perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
[03:47] <debu> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
[03:47] <debu>         LANGUAGE = "en_IN:en",
[03:47] <debu>         LC_ALL = (unset),
[03:47] <debu>         LANG = "en_IN"
[03:47] <debu>     are supported and installed on your system.
[03:47] <debu> perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
[03:47] <ron999> j_goddess yes found play location, what now please
[03:47] <cherwin> !pastebin
[03:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:47] <chicken-man> debu: pastebin !!
[03:47] <metalzelo> fyrestrtr: its ok I've found it
[03:48] <Jack_Sparrow> dr_willis: I understand what you are saying... But the fact that it does work and the dl was only 8 meg and lets me play the PAID version is just fine with me
[03:48] <metalzelo> fyrestrtr: I just have to add the keyboard layout once again
[03:48] <Ronz> installing KDE from ubuntu...whats the name of the package?
[03:48] <Viper550> sudo apt-get install kde
[03:48] <chicken-man> Ronz, kubuntu-desktop I think
[03:48] <Viper550> NO! That also installs the apps on Kubuntu
[03:49] <Ronz> thanks. =)
 thanks I didn't know  pastebin
[03:49] <Ronz> thats it
[03:49] <metalzelo> fyrestrtr: thanks a lot :)
[03:49] <Viper550> If you want extra KDE apps like Adept updater and such, go with kubuntu-desktop, if you want regular KDE, kde
[03:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Ronz: I did that kubuntu-desktop install and didnt get what I expected.. which was kde desktop
[03:49] <ron999> j_goddess I want it to open xmms player when i click on listen now on the radio website
[03:50] <andy> hello!
[03:50] <Ronz> Jack_Sparrow, i just love the prettieness of KDE. if gnome could learn from kde, and kde could learn from gnome...we would be getting somewhere
[03:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Ronz: I reverted to a backup, which I suggest you do before you try it
[03:50] <Viper550> What kubuntu-desktop is, is a metapackage for all the applications from Kubuntu
[03:50] <fyrestrtr> metalzelo: your welcome :)
[03:50] <Viper550> !kde
[03:50] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[03:51] <fyrestrtr> Ronz: 'pretty' is a subjective thing. What may be pretty to you, may be dead ugly to someone else.
[03:51] <Jack_Sparrow> take my wife.. please
[03:51] <fyrestrtr> Ronz: that's why I'm glad there is a choice.
[03:51] <Ronz> fyrestrtr, more fluid, i mean
[03:51] <harm_> sure ill take a wife
[03:51] <Ronz> jup. =)
[03:51] <chicken-man> I could spend a weeks working on gnome looking good but it won't ever looks as good as KDE :-P
[03:52] <frogzoo> chicken-man: wrong dude
[03:52] <kobalt> hi does anybody have a howto on setting up sshd with keys to use with putty ... don't seem to be working for me! I've been looking arround but I couldn't find a tutorial on bsd ssh only on openssh .. is there a difference in key handling?
[03:52] <harm_> Chicken-man got ScreenShots?
[03:52] <dark__> i am using xfce with ubuntu (not xubuntu) and i am experiencing problems with font sizes. specifically, with firefox. the default font size is 9, but i increased it to 12, and most programs is now OK, but firefox is now with huge fonts.. i am not talking about the page fonts, but the text menu fonts instead.. anyone knows how to solve this? thanks in advance
[03:52] <chicken-man> harm_: I got one of my KDE one.. hold on I'll go dig it up
[03:52] <abhinay> is there any grouper(windows version) like software in Ubuntu ?
[03:52] <cherwin> kobalt: you need to create a key-pair
[03:53] <dr_willis> kobalt,  i thought bdsssh was openssh.
[03:53] <cherwin> kobalt: and then convert the private key into a ppk format
[03:53] <Tutter> hrm.. trying to get Xgl working and I get an rgb error - any ideas?
[03:53] <kobalt> cherwin I did that! .. I created a keypair with puttygen .. copied them over to my server added them to the autorized_keys2 file
[03:54] <chicken-man> harm_: You can find some of mine in here: http://s15.invisionfree.com/ComputerHelpers/index.php?showtopic=86
[03:54] <FuriousRage> its nice too see that AMD's c'n'q works, i started to copy some files, and it went up to 2.4Ghz, before it was down to 1GHz ;>
[03:54] <cherwin> kobalt: what's the error then? It should work this way
[03:54] <harm_> hold on chickenman
[03:54] <kobalt> it's still asking me for the password
[03:54] <cherwin> kobalt: did you supplied a password when creating the private key?
[03:55] <kobalt> cherwin you mean passphrase .. yeahh I did
[03:55] <cherwin> kobalt: because you have to authenticate yourself to the file and not to the server
[03:55] <harm_> chicken-man your grinder?
[03:55] <cherwin> kobalt: when you use the private key, you have to enter the passphrase you entered during the creating of the key
[03:56] <chicken-man> harm_: No I'm chicken-man lol
[03:56] <cherwin> kobalt: if you didn't use a passphrase, and just left it blank, it will log you in right away
[03:56] <Dromen> does anyone know whether ajunta supports stepping through the code and if not an ide which does?
[03:56] <kobalt> cherwin .. but that's not what I want .. I want a passphrase on it. Pageant should handle it that way that you authenticate once and from then on it should work right away
[03:57] <kobalt> it shouldn't ask you nothing anymore
[03:57] <kobalt> can I priv you cherwin?
[03:57] <cherwin> kobalt: then you have to work with ssh-agent, i don't use ssh-agent so you have to read the manual
[03:57] <Backeman> Hi! How much does Ubuntu-server and "ordinary Ubuntu" differ? I just installed the server-version but would like to have a graphical interface to config through, but Im not sure what I should install and how to start X and gnome/kde.. Should I just install "ordinary ubuntu"?
[03:57] <cherwin> kobalt: if you wish
[03:58] <kobalt> kay
[03:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Backeman: If you are new to all of this, install the regular version..
[03:58] <harm_> backeman since u have internet in a terminal enter apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and u shall have gnome :)
[03:58] <erUSUL> Backeman: try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:58] <Viper550> Backerman: Just install xubuntu-desktop
[03:58] <Backeman> Ahh, it was that easy, thanks a lot!
[03:59] <kobalt> cherwin well actually you know what .. I will try and solve it myself .. thx for your help though ..
[03:59] <Backeman> ubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop?
[03:59] <Viper550> When you do that, or install any other WM, it will install X because it's a dependency
[03:59] <kobalt> it's probably a conf problem
[03:59] <harm_> backeman Xubuntu is a bit lighter
[03:59] <Viper550> xubuntu-desktop for an XFCE desktop, ubuntu-desktop for a Gnome desktop
[03:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Backeman: or Kubuntu
[03:59] <cherwin> kobalt: that's the spirit, when you've solved the problem notify me okay!
[03:59] <harm_> backeman or Kubuntu for KDe
[03:59] <harm_> backeman but a server really does not have a desktop.. u should learn terminal
[04:00] <nivek> How does i make to apply a new Splash Screen?
[04:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Backeman: That is why the live versions are cool, you get to check them out
[04:00] <harm_> i r need reformat :|
[04:00] <Backeman> harm_: I have run terminal for a few year, but Im gettin lazy and like GUI :) So xubuntu wouldn't be to bad for the server, won't need any heavy stuff..
[04:00] <frogzoo> nivek: a grub splash, or a login splash?
[04:01] <harm_> Backeman a GUI for a server is always a bad idea :S
[04:01] <nivek> frogzoo, a login splash
[04:01] <Backeman> harm_: it is? How so?
[04:01] <frogzoo> !themes > nivek
[04:01] <harm_> but X is the lighest of the three unless u wanne go with some shady GUI's
[04:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Wife is waking up....  time for me to go make nice..  Behave yourselves...
[04:01] <Backeman> Jack_Sparrow: thanks for the help!
[04:01] <Backeman> crap
[04:01] <Backeman> harm_: okey, I'll try. Thanks for the help!
[04:01] <harm_> Backeman it takes up space, install extra things u dont want, and like most things the simpler it is the less attention u need to give it
[04:01] <frogzoo> nivek: that link used to tell you to install pkg 'gnome-art' - do that, easiest way to install new splashes
[04:01] <shawnr_> I edited my /etc/inittab commented out the lines for tty4,tty5, and tty6. but they still load up during boot. how can i stop this?
[04:02] <frogzoo> shawnr_: pastebin /etc/inittab
[04:02] <nivek> frogzoo, ok
[04:02] <shawnr_> frog, k one sec
[04:02] <Backeman> Btw, is it bad not to have apt-setup? I got a guide on the cd that should setup apt for me, but I didn't had that command/program
[04:03] <bXi> anybody lucky enough to have gotten the i915 drivers to work in xorg?
[04:03] <harm_> Backeman i have no idea whaty u mean
[04:03] <frogzoo> Backeman: apt-setup ? never heard of it
[04:03] <harm_> =] 
[04:03] <dapet> Anyone have experience with installing netgear WG111v2 wireless adapter?
[04:03] <j_goddess> ron999: http://www.iosart.com/firefox/firefoxview/
[04:03] <shawnr_> frogzoo, http://pastebin.ca/118702
[04:04] <j_goddess> ron999: nevermind I was kidding =P
[04:04] <whaley> void^: editing /etc/network/interfaces worked
[04:05] <whaley> void^: thank you again :)
[04:05] <andrea> hello
[04:05] <whaley> installing network-manager-gnome to hopefully configure wpa for this wireless card
[04:06] <andrea> I got a dual boot system...if I format the ubuntu partition could I expierence problems with startin win???
[04:06] <fyrestrtr> uptime without gui? Try  16:55:05 up 81 days, 15:39,  2 users :)
[04:06] <bXi> anybody know how to properly install the dri driver for the i915 in xorg ?
[04:06] <harm_> GODDAMN i hate windows.. let that b clear
[04:06] <fyrestrtr> andrea: you should not.
[04:06] <Backeman> frogzoo: on the installcd, doc/manual/en/ch07s02.html#configure-apt, 4:th row
[04:06] <digitalhav0c> sup people
[04:06] <andrea> cauz I wont to format ubuntu to reinstall the dapper ( I got breezy now )
[04:06] <frogzoo> shawnr_: and you've rebooted? and tty4-6 are still there?
[04:06] <fyrestrtr> andrea: its in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Video
[04:07] <harm_> andrea u can just upgrade breezy 2 dapper
[04:07] <fyrestrtr> andrea: you don't need to do that, you can upgrade
[04:07] <andrea> I know..
[04:07] <harm_> andrea u dont need to format :)
[04:07] <jadrifter> andrea: I went the upgrade route breezy to dapper, and it worked well.
[04:07] <frogzoo> Backeman: it's not on my machine, so I'd say whatever setup is required is already taken care of
[04:07] <andrea> but I wont to format
[04:07] <harm_> o ok andrea then go for it :)
[04:08] <harm_> stick the CD in and give em hell
[04:08] <fyrestrtr> andrea: format it from the installer
[04:08] <Backeman> frogzoo: okey, just got worried when I missed some program that seemed pretty vital, since its in the docs.
[04:08] <digitalhav0c> anyone having any problems with the new kernel? 2.6.15.26 ?
[04:08] <abhinay> I couldn't remove a tasklist desklet from the gdesklets , how to remove it ?
[04:08] <andrea> and then put in the dapper
[04:08] <shawnr_> frogzoo, well it says it loads up at boot. when i press ctrl+alt+f4 the screens goes black and i get a cursur but no prompt. i just want to save memory and i really don't need more than 3
[04:08] <chicken-man> andrea, format as reiserFS it is far better than the old EXT3 :-)
[04:08] <andrea> ok
[04:08] <harm_> :| my windows is dailing to some random Nigirean IP adress O.o
[04:08] <Tutter> any1 using Xgl with intel i810?
[04:08] <Viper550> I'm just wondering, how much faster is ubiquinty than debian-installer?'
[04:08] <shawnr_> frogzoo, is it really off even though the screen goes black and i get a cursor?
[04:08] <debriss> hi everyone
[04:08] <Dodzey> harm_: you serious?
[04:08] <andrea> then i have no problems with grub??(im newbie)
[04:08] <cypher1> harm_ spyware ?? lol
[04:09] <shawnr_> frogzoo, it doesn't show a login prompt
[04:09] <Dodzey> harm_:that's crazy
[04:09] <cypher1> hi frogzoo
[04:09] <chicken-man> Tutter, That graphics chip is a little old yes ?
[04:09] <frogzoo> shawnr_: you'll see you have a login on tty1-3 & not for tty4-6
[04:09] <debriss> REALLY weird problem here - just installed ubuntu a couple days ago, and I just noticed... the clock on my panel is TWO hours behind, but in properties, it's set correctly??
[04:09] <frogzoo> cypher1: hi
[04:09] <harm_> Dodzey yah
[04:09] <shawnr_> frogzoo, yea but how can i stop the ctrl-alt-f4-6 from switching?
[04:10] <harm_> Dodzey i pulled out the cable :S
[04:10] <chicken-man> debriss, set it + 2 hours :-D
[04:10] <harm_> Downloaded windows MCE so gonna burn that and give it a go :)
[04:10] <cypher1> debriss: ntp ?
[04:10] <Huh1> hey I've got a problem with flash and sound. I've tried so far installing the alsa-oss package, I've tried this "sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libesd.so.0 /usr/lib/libesd.so.1" stuff etc, it all just is a temporary remedy. when I boot up my system again, it's all back to normal (not working)
[04:10] <Dodzey> harm_: probs a good idea...thats some serious spyware....run ad-aware and spy-bot S$D
[04:10] <debriss> lol chicken-man - a cheat-fix huh? ;)
[04:10] <grodius> Can someone help me? I'm trying to get my USB drives to work correctly in ubuntu. It detects them as MUCH smaller than they really are (80GB showing up as 80MB)
[04:10] <Dodzey> s&d*
[04:10] <frogzoo> shawnr_: i think you'd have to recompile the kernel to do that....
[04:10] <harm_> Dodzey O.o yah i fucking hate windows
[04:10] <cypher1> debriss: are you using ntp ?
[04:10] <shawnr_> ahhh
[04:10] <shawnr_> frogzoo, not that big of a deal
[04:10] <debriss> cypher1: I've tried ntp - it's sets the clock correct - i've also tried without ntp
[04:10] <shawnr_> frogzoo, thanks alot ;)
[04:11] <harm_> Dodzey you surf for 30min download a serial check out some porn and BWAM ur dead
[04:11] <Tutter> lemme correct - Xgl with AGM 900 (intel vid) ?
[04:11] <frogzoo> shachaf_: np
[04:11] <chicken-man> harm_, You still using internet explorer, I remember the days when I used it... well as you can expect my computer was a mess of spyware
[04:11] <Dodzey> huh1: you have to run firefox with "aoss /usr/bin/firefox
[04:11] <debriss> cypher1: under time and date SETTINGS, it's showing the right time
[04:11] <mezoko> Hi
[04:11] <debriss> brb
[04:11] <cypher1> debriss: is your timezone correct ?
[04:11] <mezoko> What is the default root passwd for ubuntu server install?
[04:11] <Dodzey> huh1 either that or edit /etc/firefox/firefoxrc (i think tis that one) and change the dsp to aoss
[04:12] <fyrestrtr> debriss: is it the same when you restart the machine?
[04:12] <fyrestrtr> mezoko: there isn't any,use sudo with your password
[04:12] <fyrestrtr> !sudo > mezoko
[04:12] <chicken-man> mezoko: set it with 'sudo passwd'
[04:12] <Backeman> !sudo > Backeman
[04:12] <mezoko> fyrestrtr, but I'm almost postive the install didn't ask me to creat a account
[04:12] <fyrestrtr> mezoko: it had to have, otherwise the system is unusable.
[04:12] <Dodzey> harm_: haha....just get yourself some decent antivirus (avast is good) and ad-aware, you'll be sorted then
[04:13] <harm_> Dodzey hehe i got HItmanpro which is a really nice combination automated scanner
[04:13] <mezoko> fyrestrtr, I guess maybe I skipped a step I'll reinstall ubuntu server and is it suppose to be in runlevel 2?
[04:13] <harm_> Dodzey but its silly how easy u can get jacked on a windows box
[04:13] <Dodzey> harm_: you use firefox on windows? if so get NoScript
[04:13] <fyrestrtr> ubuntu server doesn't come with a gui, so you didn't miss a step, unless for some reason you did an 'expert' install.
[04:13] <chicken-man> harm_, send a letter bomb to M$ about your problems :-D
[04:14] <harm_> chicken-man they dont like me there anymore :(
[04:14] <Backeman> harm_: thats whats make the surfing exciting :)
[04:14] <harm_> i called em a couple of times
[04:14] <Dodzey> harm_better yet, send the flippin spyware to them
[04:14] <digitalhav0c> anyone know how to lock synaptic to a perticular pkg?
[04:14] <digitalhav0c> like a kernel
[04:14] <harm_> telling them my windows was broken and when they checked serial it was all illegal
[04:14] <mezoko> fyrestrtr, well I did make mistake in the install but do you know if it suppose to be in run level 2
[04:14] <harm_> Dodzey i called MS about MS office not being compatible w. my windows
[04:14] <Dodzey> digitalhav0c, you can use "lock version" in one of the menu's
[04:14] <chicken-man> harm_, hehe, blow up your Windows CD's... best thing I ever did xD
[04:15] <harm_> Dodzey and both had illegal serials :P
[04:15] <Jenga> Can anybody help with a basic question regarding a problem I've encountered with kernel compilation?
[04:15] <Dodzey> harm_, haha....probs not a good idea calling tech support then....thats why genuine advantage pisses me off...you have to prove your innocence instead of MS proving your guilt....its bull
[04:15] <digitalhav0c> thanks dozey
[04:15] <harm_> Chicken-man yah but i cant get my game to work in Linux cuz i need to remove an encryption from the gameclient, which is normally done by 3rd party apps but linux cant run those
[04:15] <Server01> Jenga, Well try asking it for starters
[04:15] <Server01> ;)
[04:16] <Ronz> =)
[04:16] <harm_> Dodzey i saw a couple of torrents which nullified that
[04:16] <fyrestrtr> Jenga: first question, why are you compiling a kernel, and secondly, did you read the wiki regarding kernel compiling/
[04:16] <Huh1> hey, I'm experiencing some problems with flash and sound. check out my post on the forums please: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1345458#post1345458
[04:16] <harm_> Irssi 0.8.10 (20051211) - http://irssi.org/
[04:16] <Ronz> harm_, whenever you install a game in linux...you may have to use a no cd crack for it
[04:17] <harm_> Ronz no the game runs but because i want to connect to a private server it needs to remove the encryption which is normally done by other prgms
[04:17] <Dodzey> harm_, yeah...there are a few cracks, but they keep updating it...theres two steps to it, one that checks when you wanna download from ms site and one that popups messages every 30 mins if you've got an illegal license key...
[04:17] <tuxtux__> bye
[04:17] <mezoko> hussam, did you use archlinux?
[04:17] <harm_> Dodzey LOL a popup? that should b considered spyware
[04:17] <Jenga> OK. I followed HOWTO, compiled and went out for a few hours while waiting. In the meantime, there were a few errors in the terminal output. I'm not sure they were major but I can't find the .deb files I'm meant to install and reboot.
[04:17] <harm_> Vista loves popups :S
[04:18] <fyrestrtr> Jenga: guess they were major then ;)
[04:18] <Dodzey> harm_: aye...yeah...but its in the update list, you just have to be paying attention to notice it the description is quite ambiguous...once its installed it's difficult to remove
[04:18] <Backeman> harm_: well, isn't XP with a fancy gui in front that you can shut down?
[04:18] <harm_> Dodzey lol
[04:18] <Backeman> harm_: isn't it
[04:18] <harm_> Backeman its like MediaCenterEdition
[04:19] <Backeman> harm_: ahh, sorry, thought you were talking about MCE :)
[04:19] <harm_> Backeman but the best way to see something is to do it
[04:19] <Jenga> Maybe. I really want to know if I can just reboot and have another go after reading up a little more on kernel compiling. Have I actually changed anything on the system yet that would leave it unstable if I just reboot now?
[04:19] <harm_> Backeman which MCE did u mean?
[04:19] <Backeman> harm_: MediaCenterEdition?
[04:19] <hussam> mezoko, I still do.
[04:19] <harm_> Backeman yah its like for TVs and shit
[04:19] <harm_> stuff*
[04:19] <Dodzey> harm_: thats another thing MS has decided to totally balls up in vista...MCE now its some crappy standalone app with half the features
[04:20] <Backeman> harm_: yeah, I know
[04:20] <chicken-man> I wish when the desktop crashes in XP you end up at a text terminal or something other than having to restart it all again :-/
[04:20] <fyrestrtr> Jenga: if you just did the compile, then no, you didn't do anything critical. You don't even need to reboot, you can just continue as normal, and start again if you want. New kernels don't take affect unless you (a) copy them to /boot and (b) change the bootloader to load the new kernel.
[04:20] <mezoko> hussam, ahh ok
[04:20] <harm_> XP terminal is weird nothing makes sense
[04:20] <fyrestrtr> Dodzey: Backeman take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:20] <hussam> mezoko, I use archlinux at home and ubuntu in office.
[04:20] <IRC_> i installed tomcat 5.5 and everytime i try to run the server it says that JAVA_HOME or JRE_HOME is configured and cant continue. what can i do?
[04:20] <Backeman> fyrestrtr: sure
[04:20] <Huh1> hey, I'm experiencing some problems with flash and sound. check out my post on the forums please: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1345458#post1345458
[04:21] <harm_> Dodzey Vista likes to warn you 4 times per minute about how unsafe the internet is
[04:21] <linuxboy_> why were there all those ubuntu updates yesterday ?
[04:21] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: install java, and then sudo update-alternatives --config java
[04:21] <chicken-man> harm_: don't you mean how unsafe Vista is :-D
[04:21] <harm_> Chicken-man well no they say VISTA is safe.. but that the internet is unsafe
[04:21] <Ronz> harm_, 6
[04:22] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: i have java installed. what version is the latest?
[04:22] <harm_> Chicken-man though the reason the internet is unsafe is cuz vista is unsafe
[04:22] <harm_> Ronz 6 ?
[04:22] <Jenga> OK then. Well, are there any files I should remove or anything I should do before giving it another go? Apart from doing some more homework that is.
[04:22] <Ronz> vista warns you 6 times
[04:22] <Ronz> they made it in the latest security patch
[04:22] <chicken-man> harm_: ;-) The new internet explorer 7 make me want to puke
[04:22] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: depends which java you are talking about, I use the sun java.
[04:22] <harm_> IE7 = Firefox
[04:22] <dreamthief> linuxboy_, those upbuntu updates have been delivered for guys like you ..
[04:22] <harm_> Only Opera is really new and difrent
[04:22] <Ronz> chicken-man, the reason im using ubuntu is because of vista
[04:23] <dreamthief> just to ask stupid questions about bugfix.releases ...
[04:23] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: how can i tell which one i have. i think i have 3 installed.
[04:23] <linuxboy_> dreamthief: what?
[04:23] <protocol1> yeah stick with the fox
[04:23] <chicken-man> harm_: errm no IE7 = IE6 + tabs + extra crap ;-)
[04:23] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[04:23] <harm_> Ronz they should only install linux in china.. see how screwed MS is in 10years
[04:23] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: i used that command u told me
[04:23] <linuxboy_> dreamthief: is there a news article about it ?
[04:23] <Ronz> harm_,  lol
[04:23] <harm_> chicken-man yah and that = FF
[04:23] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: then it says i have 3 selections and asks me if i want to keep the default
[04:23] <chicken-man> MS is already screwed, no one wants vista :-P
[04:23] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: choose the one that has 'sun' in its name
[04:23] <harm_> i mean its so horrible everyone grows up w. windows
[04:23] <Dodzey> linuxboy: they're bug fixes, what else do you need to know?
[04:24] <gh0zt> hey
[04:24] <YesDad> hi
[04:24] <Evil_Ed`> hi
[04:24] <X-Hacker`> Hello
[04:24] <linuxboy> Dodzey: what/why
[04:24] <harm_> Try buying a computers these days that comes w. out windows
[04:24] <j_goddess> thanks to ubuntu
[04:24] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: ok i guess i dont have that installed. can i get that through synaptic?
[04:24] <j_goddess> :)
[04:24] <chicken-man> harm_: Well at least you can buy a mac in the shops..
[04:24] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: yes
[04:24] <harm_> chicken-man i need a mac-mini :| I NEED IT
[04:24] <fyrestrtr> !java > IRC_
[04:24] <Dodzey> linuxboy: what - there is the list when you update, and why - to fix bugs hehe :-)
[04:24] <X-Hacker`> good
[04:24] <gh0zt> confidential
[04:24] <YesDad> out of interest
[04:24] <Evil_Ed`> investigating
[04:25] <linuxboy> Dodzey: thanks for not answering my question
[04:25] <chicken-man> harm_: I've never used a Mac but I would love to have one :P
[04:25] <harm_> chicken-man a mac is really nice actually but i used to be keen to crashing and it isnt childproof
[04:25] <Jenga> fyrestrtr: thanks for the tip. I'll have another go.
[04:25] <harm_> like What does this button do? *LOCK UP*
[04:25] <recon0> Does anybody know how I can append the contents of a folderful of text files into the bottom of another single text file?
[04:26] <Dodzey> chicken-man, i hope MS sort themselves out for Vienna, Vista really doesn't appeal to me what=so-ever
[04:26] <frogzoo> recon0: cat * >> file
[04:26] <harm_> Dodzey so far i dont how vista is beter then XP
[04:26] <den> Can anybody point me to the right way to mend a Broken apt-get, or whatever that is? (I apologize for being Linux newbie.)
[04:27] <mezoko> Is there a TUI tool to configure my network?
[04:27] <chicken-man> harm_: The last good M$ OS was Windows 95 xD
[04:27] <mezoko> or well just set a static ip
[04:27] <j_goddess> den: whats the errors your having?
[04:27] <frogzoo> den: if apt is busted, you'd do best to reinstall
[04:27] <Viper550> !ubuntu-offtopic
[04:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubuntu-offtopic - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:27] <niruana> hi all
[04:27] <chicken-man> harm_: No wait.... DOS 6.22
[04:27] <niruana> i keep getting htis erro:
[04:27] <j_goddess> did you get a borken package and now it keeps referring to it
[04:27] <niruana> root@zhukovsky:/etc/madwifi-0.9.2# make
[04:27] <niruana> /bin/sh: line 0: cd: /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/build: No such file or directoryMakefile.inc:89: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/build is missing, please set KERNELPATH.  Stop.
[04:27] <ferreus> !mouse
[04:27] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[04:27] <niruana> any ideas?
[04:27] <Ronz> did MS make a good os....?
[04:27] <j_goddess> heh
[04:28] <Ronz> i need that! /me hugs ubotu
[04:28] <j_goddess> yeah it borrowed it from linux
[04:28] <harm_> hehe
[04:28] <den> That figure is in the bar at top, it says to right-click to start Package Manager Broken > 0
[04:28] <ferreus> how to enable copy and paste with mouse like with other linux distros? select = copy, middle click = paste
[04:28] <ferreus> ?
[04:28] <chicken-man> Ronz, Well the best i've ever used was MSDOS 6.22 :-P
[04:28] <harm_> i dont know i though MS2000 was ok.. untill i booted it up
[04:28] <Dodzey> harm_: the problem will be insane hardware requirements, my graphics card in this comp won't support all of Vista's 'eye-candy' yet ive got XGL/Compiz running fine on here
[04:28] <j_goddess> den
[04:28] <j_goddess> den: open terminal and sudo su
[04:28] <harm_> Dodzey all my computer <1.5Ghz
[04:28] <j_goddess> den: apt-get update
[04:28] <dreamthief> recon0, cat * >> textfile_where_text_should_be_appended
[04:29] <hussam> mezoko: of course archlinux is and will always remain my all time favourite distribution
[04:29] <j_goddess> den: I'd find the package for synaptic and then see if you can use dpkg-reconfigure
[04:29] <j_goddess> you can search packages.ubuntu.org?
[04:29] <j_goddess> and see what the name is
[04:29] <j_goddess> if not then I'd reinstall
[04:29] <j_goddess> or use apt-get
[04:29] <ferreus> can anyone tell me how to enable copy and paste with mouse like with other linux distros? select = copy, middle click = paste?
[04:29] <mezoko> hussam, as with me, but I've decide ubuntu would be a good choice for a server
[04:29] <harm_> j_goddess ENTER and SPACEBAR are not the same thing
[04:29] <Dodzey> harm_: i'm lucky in that i've got a 3ghz P4, but my graphics card would choke, I should really upgrade, not for Vista...but for HL2 and the like :-p
[04:29] <Huh1> Dodzey:  that would work if I was using firefox... but I aint
[04:30] <j_goddess> huh?
[04:30] <Dodzey> Huh1: what browser you running?
[04:30] <bbrazil> ferreus: it should just work. is your mouse working otherwise?
[04:30] <Huh1> opera
[04:30] <j_goddess> harm_? what do you mean
[04:30] <frogzoo> ferreus: should work like that by default, as long as your middle button works
[04:30] <hussam> mezoko: it depends on what type of server.
[04:30] <Ronz> Dodzey, hl2 is awesome
[04:30] <harm_> Dodzey.. CS1.6 runs at <60fps @ my computer
[04:30] <harm_> J_goddess dont spam once sentence
[04:30] <mezoko> hussam, and everything server for home
[04:30] <ferreus> it  works in all gui applications, but not in gnome terminal, wich is where i need it the most :)
[04:30] <j_goddess> ok.. easy enough
[04:30] <harm_> Ronz hl2 is indeed sweet
[04:30] <Dodzey> Ronz: I really need to go get it....I loved HL1, so im sure i'll love 2
[04:30] <hussam> mezoko, ok I see
[04:31] <dreamthief> hl2 is nice ^^
[04:31] <chicken-man> harm_ yeah HL1 works great in Wine :-P
[04:31] <Dodzey> Huh1: tried running opera with aoss opera?
[04:31] <ferreus> hl2 is a little bit boring, compared to hl1, i loved much more ep1
[04:31] <harm_> chicken-man hehe never really polayed any 3d games w. linux
[04:31] <nrdb> does anyone know if ubuntu supports any large format scanners (e.g. A3)?
[04:31] <harm_> chicken-man driver problems
[04:31] <Dodzey> Huh1: i was sure opera's flash work fine without any hacks?
[04:31] <niruana> please someone help me
[04:31] <rsk> HL2 works to
[04:31] <niruana> why am i getting that eror?
[04:31] <niruana> root@zhukovsky:/etc/madwifi-0.9.2# make
[04:32] <niruana> /bin/sh: line 0: cd: /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/build: No such file or directoryMakefile.inc:89: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/build is missing, please set KERNELPATH.  Stop.
[04:32] <aujordanh> gedit is not loading in gnome when I open it from the terminal, any suggestions?
[04:32] <Ronz> Dodzey, harm_ now all i gotta do is get it running in *nix. =)
[04:32] <chicken-man> harm_: ahhhh good thing 6.06 fixed all my driver problems
[04:32] <harm_> chicken-man sweet then ill give it a try
[04:32] <Dodzey> Ronz: haha....well if you manage, let me know how =)
[04:32] <den> I ran apt-get but when I open Package Manager it says I have a broken package use "Broken" filter to find it. I know how to turn on the "Broken" filter. I don't know what to do after that.
[04:32] <grodius> Is there anyway to make my linux partition accessable from windows
[04:32] <grodius> so that I can copy my ubuntu files over?
[04:33] <harm_> grodius did u use fat or ext3?
[04:33] <frogzoo> grodius: ext2fsd
[04:33] <grodius> ex3
[04:33] <Ronz> Dodzey, you will see me dancing in #ubuntu
[04:33] <chicken-man> grodius, Best thing to do is make a FAT32 partition for moving files
[04:33] <grodius> harm_: ext3
[04:33] <nrdb> grodius: I think the best way is to use a fat32 partition or a flash drive
[04:33] <Dodzey> Ronz: i might try creating a streamlined install of XP with only the absolute neccesary running for gaming...so it boots super fast
[04:33] <harm_> grodios frogzoo is right
[04:33] <harm_> Dodzey tweaking XP is shitty
[04:33] <Huh1> Dodzey:  no it doesnt
[04:33] <harm_> Dodzey its so cluttered
[04:33] <ferreus> my mouse doesn't want to copy in gnome terminal
[04:33] <grodius> nrdb I would love to use a USB drive, but for some reason my usb drives are being detected as being much smaller than they really are
[04:33] <Huh1> maybe I should reinstall opera
[04:34] <grodius> nrdb have you heard of this issue?
[04:34] <nrdb> grodius: no
[04:34] <frogzoo> !mouse > ferreus
[04:34] <chicken-man> Can someone tell me the name of the opera package ?
[04:34] <ferreus> tried that, didn't help
[04:34] <aujordanh> More info on gedit problem, it will open without sudo, will not open with sudo
[04:35] <ferreus> my mouse works fine, but i want to copy&paste in terminal, like human beings ;) select=copy, middle click= paste
[04:35] <ferreus> in gnome terminal
[04:35] <mezoko> Is there TUI tool to control what services start on boot
[04:35] <Ronz> right click, and paste
[04:36] <Ronz> that should do it. =)
[04:36] <ferreus> thanks, but i don't want the MS way
[04:36] <selinuxium> mezoko, System/Sessions/start up programs
[04:36] <harm_> ferreus ctrl + shift + c or v
[04:36] <teicah> mezoko: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491
[04:36] <nrdb> does anyone know if ubuntu supports any large format scanners (e.g. A3)?
[04:36] <ferreus> i want it to work like in every other linux distro
[04:37] <Dodzey> ferreus: myne works like that
[04:37] <ferreus> i'm so happy for you, really :)
[04:37] <chicken-man> Does anyone know the name of the Opera web browser package ? I cannot find it....
[04:38] <ferreus> oh well, i just won't you gnome's terminal
[04:38] <ferreus> it works good in Konsole
[04:38] <Dodzey> ferreus, =\
[04:38] <mezoko> teicah, thanks
[04:38] <harm_> chicken-man apt-get install opera ?
[04:38] <Viper550> Go to gnome-app-install
[04:38] <chicken-man> harm_: no such package...
[04:38] <ferreus> anyway, i have another question
[04:39] <harm_> chicken-man i see ;S
[04:39] <frogzoo> ferreus: what's your mouse?
[04:39] <ferreus> is it possible to make the sound bell, make sound from some sound file, instead of speaker?
[04:39] <chicken-man> Viper550, Not in Gnome, KDE ;-)
[04:39] <ferreus> microsoft optical mouse
[04:39] <Huh1> Dodzey: hm I reinstalled opera but still no sound
[04:39] <ferreus> standard shit, nothing fancy
[04:39] <Viper550> !language
[04:39] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:39] <dreamthief> lol
[04:40] <dreamthief> ^^
[04:40] <mezoko> Do I need extra repo's installed to get sysv-rc-conf?
[04:40] <chicken-man> ferreus, Don't but and hardware made by M$ :-D
[04:40] <chicken-man> buy*
[04:40] <dreamthief> vittu ;)
[04:40] <selinuxium> Hi all, I am having some problems with a broken package (fglrx) Can anyone help with sorting it?
[04:41] <NemesisUK> chicken-man, what's wrong with M$ hardware?
[04:41] <Viper550> Maybe I shouldn't say that I use a Microsoft Media KEyboard, and I used to use a MS mouse but now I use a generic HP mouse from my newer computer that uses a MX510
[04:41] <Viper550> I mean MX518
[04:41] <lhds> when i compile the kernel i get make[1] : *** No rule to make target `init/main.o', needed by `init/built-in.o'.  Stop.
[04:41] <qwerty2k> hey, anyone using edgy? if so whats new/good/to look forward too or is it a broken mess?
[04:41] <Zyfo> I'm having some "troubles" setting up my keyboard shortcuts, anyone got any examples of how they set up their shortcuts (workspace and all that)? Some site dealing with the subject?
[04:42] <chicken-man> NemesisUK, I don't trust it.. it's made by M$ they are spying on me :-P
[04:42] <NemesisUK> lol, and I thought I was paranoid ;)
[04:42] <erUSUL> qwerty2k: #ubuntu+1 seems a best place for such a question
[04:42] <chicken-man> :-D
[04:42] <erUSUL> qwerty2k: #ubuntu+1 seems a better place for such a question
[04:42] <qwerty2k> erUSUL, thanks
[04:43] <erUSUL> qwerty2k: no problem ;)
[04:43] <lhds> lhds: when i compile the kernel i get make[1] : *** No rule to make target `init/main.o', needed by `init/built-in.o'.  Stop.
[04:43] <erUSUL> !repeat > lhds
[04:43] <chicken-man> lhds, why on earth you trying to compile it ?
[04:43] <mezoko> are the ubuntu servers down?
[04:43] <mezoko> cause apt-get update just hangs
[04:43] <erUSUL> lhds: which version are you trying to compile? ubuntu one?
[04:44] <lhds> i am having problems with my alsa driver concerning saa7134 chip dmesg returns a mess and when i load the chip in modules i get a flood on startup
[04:44] <frogzoo> ferreus: if your mouse was "nothing fancy" then middle button would paste - there's something funny going on you need to check out - maybe you need to set the protocol differently in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:44] <niruana> cold someone PLEASE help me??!!
[04:44] <lhds> 6.06 tls kernel 15.26.
[04:44] <niruana> I keep getting this error:
[04:44] <niruana> root@zhukovsky:/etc/madwifi-0.9.2# make
[04:44] <niruana> /bin/sh: line 0: cd: /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/build: No such file or directoryMakefile.inc:89: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/build is missing, please set KERNELPATH.  Stop.
[04:45] <void^> lhds: i am guessing you installed linux-headers but not the full sources
[04:45] <erUSUL> niruana: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[04:45] <lhds> i was working damn good when i configured everything concerning the chip whan i rebooted it flooded me
[04:46] <lhds> i got the linux hearders x26 and x26.386
[04:47] <niruana> thx erUSUL
[04:47] <lhds> void is there anything more i have to download to recompile? because the error is coming from /usr/src/liunx XXXX26/modules/media/saa7134.ko
[04:47] <erUSUL> niruana: no problem
[04:47] <Ronz> wrong button...>_<
[04:47] <Backeman> :)
[04:48] <chicken-man> nirxD
[04:48] <erUSUL> lhds: the actual source code of the kernel....
[04:48] <chicken-man> whoops
[04:48] <lhds> source.15. ?
[04:48] <lhds> checking
[04:48] <chicken-man> niruana, Why you compiling the kernel ?
[04:48] <selinuxium> I am having problems with a broken package Any help would be gratefully received. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19865
[04:49] <mezoko> Am I the only one having problems with the ubuntu servers?
[04:49] <selinuxium> mezoko, I am having no problems...
[04:49] <lhds> Linux kernel source for version 2.6.15 with Ubuntu patches its there
[04:49] <mezoko> hmm
[04:49] <selinuxium> mezoko, but I am using gb servers
[04:49] <mezoko> selinuxium, gb servers?
[04:50] <lhds> Linux kernel image for version 2.6.15 on 386. is there aswell
[04:50] <mezoko> nvm apt-get update finally decided to work
[04:50] <erUSUL> !kernel
[04:50] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[04:50] <niruana> chicken-man: madwifi drivers
[04:50] <erUSUL> lhds: are you following this guide
[04:50] <erUSUL> ??
[04:51] <chicken-man> niruana, ahhh
[04:51] <erUSUL> lhds:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[04:51] <selinuxium> mezoko, Actually I am not here! but http://gb.security.blah.blah.blah...
[04:51] <lhds> when saa7134 is modprobed it gives [17179716.236000]  saa7134: Unknown parameter `dsp_nr'
[04:51] <mezoko> it appears the ubuntu servers are extremely slow
[04:51] <selinuxium> mezoko, I am using te standard ones...
[04:51] <mezoko> selinuxium, standard what?
[04:52] <selinuxium> mezoko, repositories...
[04:52] <selinuxium> mezoko, You usually have localised repositories set up when you first set up ubuntu. look in you sources.list file.
[04:54] <Pier> dir
[04:54] <frogzoo> mezoko: not only appears, they are in truth & fact - slow
[04:54] <ardchoille> Has anyone here built a PVR? I want to build a system that can record shows from cable TV. Is there a tutorial for such a thing?
[04:54] <riddlebox> hello, how can I tell what usb devices are plugged in?
[04:54] <frogzoo> riddlebox: lsusb maybe ?
[04:54] <niruana> what cc schould i nsitall?
[04:55] <Subhuman> ardchoille, www.revision3.com, goto systm, then look at the MythTV episode
[04:55] <riddlebox> ahh thanks
[04:55] <ardchoille> Subhuman: Thank you :)
[04:55] <Subhuman> explains how to make/install a debian based pvr with mythtv distro.
[04:55] <Subhuman> ardchoille, anytime :D
[04:55] <ardchoille> Subhuman: Nice
[04:55] <StriderZ> how do I make debconf use a regular text interface instead of curses?
[04:56] <StriderZ> ah..nevermind
[04:57] <niruana> erUSUL: what compiler should i use, because i'm gething a erro
[04:57] <niruana> r
[04:57] <StriderZ> well hell, that didn't actually work...wtf
[04:57] <Viper550> !gcc
[04:57] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:57] <niruana> /bin/sh: cc: command not found
[04:57] <niruana> Checking requirements... ok.
[04:57] <niruana> Checking kernel configuration... FAILED
[04:57] <niruana> i have kernel 2.6 O_o
[04:58] <mister_roboto> StriderZ, dpkg-reconfigure?
[04:58] <qwerty2k> can anyone help me? rythmbox wont play any songs off my ipod, it goes to play them and stays on 0 seconds and doesnt play a sound (ive installed gstreamer plugins)
[04:58] <niruana> qwerty2k:  install xmms
[04:59] <riddlebox> man I am trying to get a dora doll that I bought for my niece to work under ubuntu, the program installed and works fine under wine, but I cannot download the data to the doll
[04:59] <qwerty2k> niruana, how will that help?
[05:00] <harm_> dora doll?
[05:00] <harm_> do i even want to ask what that is?
[05:00] <chicken-man> XMMS joystick control is cool :-P
[05:00] <mister_roboto> riddlebox, what is that? does it use serial port or usb or something to transmit to the doll?
[05:00] <frogzoo> riddlebox: first step would be try latest wine 0.9.18
[05:00] <riddlebox> mister_roboto,  it uses usb
[05:01] <Cigarette> AAA, you're still here? yo must not sleep...
[05:01] <riddlebox> frogzoo, I am using the whatever is in the repos
[05:01] <Roots> Does anyone know how to restart the audio system or whatever? Even though esd is running and I can play .oggs in XMMS, I can't get any games using SDL_mixer to work (it says there's no available device) and I also can't get any videos on the internet to play with sound. I have no idea why (I tried restarting esd and it did nothing)
[05:01] <StriderZ> I'm trying to use a Linksys WUSB54Gv4 wireless adapter. Upon loading the rt2500 kernel module, I still don't see a wireless interface. What am I doing wrong?
[05:01] <riddlebox> frogzoo, it is 0.9.9
[05:01] <niruana> it supports more sound extensions qwerty2k
[05:02] <riddlebox> mister_roboto, lsusb does see the device, but I do not know how to tell the program to use it
[05:02] <harm_> please slap my hot ass
[05:02] <harm_> O.o wrong channel
[05:02] <mister_roboto> riddlebox, sorry, i don't know how wine uses usb, or if there is any special configuration. i was just curious
[05:03] <frogzoo> !wine
[05:03] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:03] <Cigarette> hahaha
[05:03] <harm_> Chicken-man i know have 3 windows on the same partition :|
[05:03] <harm_> If u wishto install windows press f8
[05:03] <harm_> f8f88f8f8f8f8f8f8
[05:04] <harm_> reboot in 15 seconds
[05:04] <harm_> :|
[05:04] <riddlebox> mister_roboto, yeah this would be great if I could get it to work it is her birthday today and I can personalize it to say "hello tonya happy birthday"
[05:04] <chicken-man> harm_: O_o
[05:04] <Cigarette> harm_, you restart if theres a risk of the computer catching fire hahaha
[05:04] <harm_> chicken-man i think windows just gave me the middle finger
[05:04] <frogzoo> riddlebox: add the repos here: http://winehq.org/site/download-deb
[05:04] <chicken-man> harm_: excellent more reason to use Linux 100% :-D
[05:04] <harm_> cigarette ^^
[05:04] <harm_> chicken-man nah i need a windows box
[05:05] <harm_> chicken-man helps me realise just how awsome unix is
[05:05] <mister_roboto> riddlebox, if all else fails, i would just run it on windows. i mean it would be nice to get running on ubuntu but if you really need it by tomorrow and it's not working...  you know?
[05:05] <chicken-man> xD
[05:05] <Cigarette> i just.... wish linux worked better with my wifi card....... lol
[05:05] <Cigarette> like xp did
[05:05] <chicken-man> Sigarette, put a fan on it :-D
[05:05] <harm_> Yesterday i was playing UltimaOnline till my eyes started bleeding
[05:06] <frogzoo> mister_roboto: bit early to quit if riddlebox is running only 0.9.9
[05:06] <chicken-man> Cigarette, put a fan on it :-D
[05:06] <riddlebox> mister_roboto,  yeah I know, but its the principle of the matter :)
[05:06] <Cigarette> eh... not wort it
[05:06] <harm_> The windows install procedure is very interactive, YES or NO
[05:06] <snooplsm> frogzoo, get visine anti eye bleed.
[05:06] <snooplsm> theres a visine for that.
[05:06] <riddlebox> frogzoo, I am updating wine in a second
[05:06] <chicken-man> harm_: it should be [yes]  [no]  [install Linux]  :-P
[05:06] <frogzoo> snooplsm: in english?
[05:06] <Cigarette> can anyone help me with this stupid wifi card?
[05:06] <snooplsm> Theres a visine to prevent your eyes from bleeding.
[05:06] <harm_> chicken-man hehe :P
[05:07] <snooplsm> Cigarette sure.
[05:07] <chicken-man> Cigarette, put it in the bin.. problem fixed
[05:07] <frogzoo> snooplsm: excuse me, but why would my eyes be bleeding?
[05:07] <mister_roboto> frogzoo, sure, i'm all for playing and getting to the root of a problem, but when you have a critical deadline to hit, you just get it done.  granted, he has time but if he has other things to do today and it just won't work, i'm just saying go with a known entity :)
[05:07] <harm_> chicken-man i got kicked out of Informatics classes (were we learn how to create magic yellow folders which hold cool paper looking pictures) cuz i stuck a knoppix live CD in my teachers computer and she went bezerk
[05:08] <chicken-man> harm_: ahahahaha
[05:08] <chicken-man> harm_: should have installed it xD
[05:08] <burg> [1]  a friend just installed ubuntu and he can`t access any partition.... (not enough privilegies)
[05:08] <burg> what should he do?
[05:09] <harm_> chicken-man informatics was hell, i was forced to learn windows :| create a dir structure and shit, owyah i  had to copy paste files from one folder to another one
[05:09] <gnomefreak> chicken-man: and harm_ can you continue the offtopic chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[05:09] <harm_> gnomefreak iam on irssi idk how to chance windows ^^
[05:09] <chicken-man> harm_: ewwww
[05:09] <chicken-man> harm_: I learned that in about 5 minutes after I got my PC
[05:09] <gnomefreak> harm_: /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:10] <harm_> chicken-man i never learned it.. i knew it from moment 1
[05:10] <chicken-man> harm_: :-P
[05:10] <rodders> Newbie here, I need to install LAMP, but have only downloaded the server disk, is there is pre-config for me to just say apt-get install LAMP?
[05:10] <cappliancegu1> need help installing java
[05:10] <gnomefreak> cappliancegu1: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[05:11] <snooplsm> jdk
[05:11] <phenex> hey guys, i need some help with a new ubuntu dapper installation... i connect to the net with rp-pppoe, and every couple of minutes my resolv.conf gets this weird local nameserver that doesn't work... how can i make resolv.conf stay the way it is?
[05:11] <gnomefreak> cappliancegu1: if it doesnt install you need to enable multiverse repo
[05:11] <rodders> gnomefreak - any ideas on installing LAMP the fast way
[05:11] <cappliancegu1> what is that? sorry new to this
[05:11] <gnomefreak> rodders: there is not fast way
[05:11] <snooplsm> google multiverse repo
[05:11] <frogzoo> !lamp
[05:11] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[05:11] <sean> hello, quick question are there any tools to configure X in ubuntu like SaX2 in suse
[05:12] <rodders> Yep, saw that but the install menu did not have the LAMP option, like all the screenies (and I have both the ubuntu server alternate and kubuntu alternate CDs)
[05:12] <frogzoo> rodders: just install the above packages, & you're done
[05:13] <phenex> guys? help?
[05:13] <harm_> Chicken-man ?
[05:13] <rodders> any other configurations I need to do to apache etc? before PHP kicks in
[05:13] <ardchoille> sean: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  is the only way that I know of
[05:13] <chicken-man> harm_: yes
[05:13] <gnomefreak> !repos > cappliancegu1
[05:13] <harm_> Chicken-man aye y aint u in offtopic then?
[05:13] <gnomefreak> cappliancegu1: please read the msg from ubotu
[05:13] <chicken-man> harm_: oh yes be in there in a moment xD
[05:13] <harm_> aye
[05:14] <richard_> help!
[05:14] <gnomefreak> no!
[05:14] <richard_> im trying to get my ubuntu to work with wireless
[05:14] <stefg> !wifi
[05:14] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:14] <richard_> im using linksys
[05:15] <rodders> ubotu - thanks, the link has the info I need!!
[05:15] <ubotu> I know nothing about thanks, the link has the info I need!! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:16] <hbi> is their a way to get a bundle of the software package contained on nubuntu or should i just get them all seperately? (btw im on ubuntu atm)
[05:17] <Backeman> What "program" should I use for making my computer a router? I used PF (packet filter?) last time.. Are there some specifik for ubuntu?
[05:17] <snooplsm> buy a router dude
[05:17] <snooplsm> its better
[05:17] <Backeman> snooplsm: no, its not
[05:17] <Backeman> snooplsm: I had that many years ago and I like this much better
[05:18] <snooplsm> what ever floats your boat
[05:18] <frogzoo> Backeman: quagga if you need rip/ospf - otherwise, just the kernel can route statically
[05:18] <Backeman> frogzoo: iptables?
[05:18] <hbi> any1 got any help for my question?
[05:19] <frogzoo> Backeman: iptables sure
[05:19] <Backeman> frogzoo: okey, thx
[05:19] <burg> i have some problems installing ubuntu
[05:20] <burg> at step 5: if i chose to automate create partitions using free space, it goes to no responding
[05:20] <hbi> is their a way to get a bundle of the software package contained on nubuntu or should i just get them all seperately? (btw im on ubuntu atm)
[05:20] <burg> if i chose to make the partitions manualy: it asks me what windows partitions to be / and what to be swap
[05:21] <stefg> burg: does this mean you're running off a Desktop CD and using the iRC client provided there to connect to this channel?
[05:22] <Bassy> hello, i'm considering installing ubuntu, and wandering if a amd 350 w/256ram can handle it?
[05:23] <richard__> !wifi
[05:23] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:23] <stefg> Bassy: go for xubuntu... it can run ubuntu but xubunbtu is better fun on that hardware
[05:23] <j-goddess> !streaming
[05:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about streaming - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:23] <burg> i`m on windows now
[05:23] <j-goddess> burg: with the same box?
[05:23] <richard__> ubuntu freezes when i try to activate my USB wifi
[05:24] <mc44> what is the command line equivalent of the "Activate" button in network-admin?
[05:24] <fyrestrtr> mc44: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:24] <burg> j-goddess what do you mean?
[05:24] <j-goddess> mc44: ifup "interface"
[05:24] <Bassy> does xubuntu give you all of the server stuff also, ie. php/msql/ftp, etc.?
[05:25] <stefg> burg: then you can't run the diagnostics, answer questions or do things people want you to. Boot the live CD and come back from there
[05:25] <j-goddess> burg: the box you have in question is the same box that your running windows on currently
[05:25] <mc44> fyrestrtr, j-goddess: thanks
[05:26] <der0b> bassy: those things aren't related to your desktop, so once you have xubuntu running you can just intall those packages
[05:26] <burg> but it`s veery slow when i`m on that live cd
[05:26] <stefg> burg: either that, or you won't get support... it's that simple
[05:27] <burg> why can`t i get support from here? using windows?
[05:27] <selfharm> how can I kill gdm ?
[05:27] <stefg> burg: then you can't run the diagnostics, answer questions or do things people want you to. Boot the live CD and come back from there
[05:28] <neutrinomass> selfharm: /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:28] <selfharm> ty
[05:29] <stefg> burg: how do you think you can fix a problem with the ubuntu install when in windows :-) ?
[05:29] <selfharm> zomg, its taken me nearly a week of dabbling, but i finally got my display to work. gdm finally up and running.
[05:29] <selfharm> thanks channel
[05:29] <WaruiInu> do you happen people to know why in the hell, on my laptop, if i play songs, sometimes the sistem stops, including the plying, and continue after i press ESC? when playinh movies it doesnt happen
[05:30] <Bassy> thanks for the info. guys, have a nice day...
[05:30] <burg> well i know the problem, i just told you it goes to no responding when i`m trying to create partitions
[05:30] <frogzoo> WaruiInu: esc set to pause?
[05:30] <WaruiInu> frogzoo: no, it is not like that
[05:30] <selfharm> what is HAL? i just boot into gdm and got an error "can not start HAL"
[05:30] <WaruiInu> frogzoo: it happen with all apps
[05:31] <stefg> burg: this is a 'doesn't work' statement
[05:31] <stefg> !doesn't work
[05:31] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[05:31] <warlocky> If I want to copy the dir /home/hi to /home/hi/2 - do I use "mv hi /home/hi/2 ?"
[05:31] <j-goddess> warlocky: do you want to copy or move the entire directory and rename it?
[05:31] <WaruiInu> warlocky: cp -R is good too
[05:32] <warlocky> j-goddess, copy it
[05:32] <warlocky> whats the command ? :o
[05:32] <j-goddess> warlocky: cp -R /home/hi /home/hi/2
[05:32] <warlocky> alright, lemme try it man
[05:32] <stefg> burg: i need to have a look at your partition table, need output of a few commands and so on... you won't be able to provide that without a running CD
[05:33] <Jack_Sparrow> where are the screensaver files in Ubuntu, I want to try and remove the ones I dont like
[05:34] <it1957> i can boot mepis from live cd adding xres=800x600 and changing vga=normal, not ubuntu? new to this.
[05:35] <Jack_Sparrow> it1957: sure you can.. hit F6 and change the line
[05:35] <tschaboo> hello. everytime i log into gnome i get two windows, telling me that an encrypted volume was found which might be true but since i want to mount my luks-partitions manually i want to get rid of those windows. does anyone know how?
[05:37] <it1957> change the line from text boot and locks up.  gives me error on reading hdb1.
[05:37] <Lard-O-Lad> How can you remove connections you made to a server (ie. FTP folders on the desktop)?
[05:37] <selfharm> !kill
[05:37] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[05:37] <boldii> hi
[05:38] <neutrinomass> selfharm: Maybe it needed sudo ...
[05:38] <selfharm> neutrinomass, im just trying to reboot. whats that command?
[05:38] <mc__> selfharm: reboot
[05:39] <frogzoo> tschaboo: probably want the noauto option in fstab
[05:39] <boldii> does anybody of you know a command which shows me which *.deb causes a depency on a certain other *.deb? I want to check which program gives me gnome-libs as depencies when wanting to upgrade kde.
[05:39] <Jack_Sparrow> it1957: It boots fine unless you make that change?
[05:39] <selfharm> ty mc
[05:40] <tschaboo> frogzoo: those partitions (hdc1, hda9) are not in fstab at all. that's why i wonder who they could be "detected" at all
[05:40] <mc__> selfharm: np
[05:40] <it1957> only locks up.
[05:41] <ungaro> my ubuntu is all over black, is there such a known problem ? all the program backgrounds and whatsoever is going black
[05:41] <stefg> it1957: so this happens when you try to boot without any additional parameters?
[05:42] <Jack_Sparrow> boldii: are you installing from the repos or another source
[05:42] <it1957> yes with and without.
[05:42] <niruana> why do i get this error?
[05:42] <niruana> root@zhukovsky:/etc/madwifi-0.9.2# make
[05:42] <niruana> /bin/sh: cc: command not found
[05:42] <niruana> Checking requirements... ok.
[05:42] <niruana> Checking kernel configuration... FAILED
[05:42] <boldii> Jack_Sparrow: repos.
[05:42] <niruana> i haver kernel 2.6 :S
[05:42] <Tutter> ok - with intel amg 900 video should I go with Xgl or AiGLX ?
[05:42] <frogzoo> tschaboo: oh, it seems hald is doing the work
[05:42] <gnomefreak> niruana: did you install build-essential
[05:43] <gnomefreak> niruana: all ubuntu versions use 2.6
[05:43] <niruana> maybe no compiler ?
[05:43] <gnomefreak> niruana: install build-essential
[05:43] <niruana> apt-get build-essential?
[05:43] <niruana> or?
[05:43] <tschaboo> frogzoo: that's the thing that finds USB- and firewire-disks, right?
[05:43] <Roadkill^> can anyone tell me how to disable line-wrap in vim?
[05:43] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:43] <niruana> ok
[05:43] <stefg> it1957: what hardware is that?
[05:44] <hbi> any1 know why fake authentication works in backtrack and not ubuntu?
[05:44] <it1957> compaq 5000
[05:44] <stefg> and hdb is the cdrom?
[05:44] <frogzoo> tschaboo: and other things too
[05:44] <it1957> no 2nd hd.
[05:44] <boldii> Jack_Sparrow: any idea?
[05:44] <britishseapower> anyone know what amp fuse i should put in a plug on a pc kettle lead - 13 amp ? - i'm in the UK.
[05:45] <Jack_Sparrow> boldii: dpkg --help
[05:45] <boldii> Jack_Sparrow: I don't want to download these files. is there any other way?
[05:45] <frogzoo> britishseapower: kettle leads have fuses? 5amps should be plenty for a kettle @ 1000W
[05:46] <donaldinho> having trouble disabling ipv6 in 6.06. changed the aliases file in /etc/modprobe.d/ but ipv6 is still there after a reboot. are there any other files that I should be changing
[05:46] <tschaboo> frogzoo: well, thanks for the moment. i will look at hald more closely, finding out what it is and does, and so on.
[05:46] <Jack_Sparrow> boldii: you can use dpkg to remove what you started
[05:46] <harm_> Hi
[05:46] <fistandantilus> donaldinho: did you blacklist the module?
[05:46] <hbi> any1 know why fake authentication works in backtrack and not ubuntu?
[05:46] <donaldinho> no
[05:46] <stefg> it1957: compaq sometimes has a strange way of setting the master/slave things up with cable select. Might be that the Bios and the kernel cannot agree on the IDE handling. Testing with switched of DMA might also help
[05:46] <donaldinho> in the blacklists file
[05:47] <hbi> is their a package i can download that has the nubuntu package on it (im on ubunto atm)
[05:47] <Roadkill^> dpkg: error processing gsfonts-x11 (--remove):
[05:47] <Roadkill^>  subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 2
[05:47] <Roadkill^> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:47] <Roadkill^>  gsfonts-x11
[05:47] <fistandantilus> donaldinho: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist 'blacklist IPV6' at the end of the file .. that and the aliases bit you did should be all you need
[05:47] <it1957> ok thanks, will try.
[05:47] <mc44> hmm totem wont play a dvd from its entry on the file menu, saying I dont have the right plugins installed, butif i direct it to /media/cdrom it works fine. any ideas?
[05:47] <Roadkill^> i got this after a dist-upgrade to edgy
[05:47] <Roadkill^> any ideas?
[05:47] <Roadkill^> i keep getting this when i use apt
[05:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Roadkill^: yea, next time use the pastebin
[05:48] <Roadkill^> um... sorry what?
[05:48] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste
[05:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:48] <hbi> Jack_Sparrow,  is their a package i can download that has the nubuntu package on it (im on ubunto atm)
[05:48] <Roadkill^> k tnx
[05:48] <hbi> *ubuntu
[05:48] <stefg> Roadkill^: #ubuntu+1
[05:48] <donaldinho> fistandantilus: cool cheers.
[05:48] <kingpanga> help pls
[05:48] <kingpanga> i have a skystar2 card and i look for a good software to install it on ubunto
[05:48] <Jack_Sparrow> hbi: you want the ubuntu-desktop?
[05:48] <mc44> also in vlc "dvd://" doesnt work, but /media/cdrom does. how can i fix this?
[05:48] <kingpanga> ubuntu
[05:49] <hbi> well i have ubuntu atm but i want the software nubuntu has so instead of going through finding them all is their one big package that has it all?
[05:49] <fistandantilus> donaldinho: np
[05:49] <hbi> or is it possible to install nubuntu on this ubuntu without whiping my files
[05:50] <fistandantilus> what is nubuntu?
[05:50] <hbi> a security version of ubuntu
[05:50] <fistandantilus> never heard of  it
[05:50] <Jack_Sparrow> hbi: I never heard of nbuntu but I would assume there might be a dpkg install nubuntu-desktop that would install the packages in nubuntu
[05:50] <SWAT> what's a good way to create cli interfaces for shell scripts? Zenity is nice, but only works if you have X  :-/
[05:50] <dave> hey my gnome tray isnt worki9ng how do I get it back?
[05:50] <hbi> ill have a look around
[05:51] <Roadkill^> anyone knows hot to disable line breaks in vi(m)
[05:52] <fyrestrtr> hrmm
[05:52] <fyrestrtr> !nubuntu
[05:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about nubuntu - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:52] <Tutter> hrm - where do I find out what driver is currently being used for my vid card ?
[05:52] <Roadkill^> !vim
[05:52] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[05:53] <dave> !kdock
[05:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about kdock - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:53] <dave> !dock
[05:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about dock - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:53] <dave> !tray
[05:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about tray - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:53] <stefg> !fishing
[05:53] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[05:53] <Roadkill^> :D
[05:54] <fyrestrtr> dave: what do you mean its not working?
[05:54] <dave> well I dont have a tray anymore
[05:54] <stefg> dave you want superkaramba or gdesklets, and maybe alltray :-)
[05:54] <fyrestrtr> dave: right click on the panel, add to panel, notification area.
[05:55] <dave> ok I started using gdesklets and now where kopote used to sit there is no tray
[05:55] <Nikoladze> for some reason the sound in some of my applicattions has stopped working, vlc says my card doesn't support 4400hz, can somebody help me out, I dunno where to start
[05:55] <dave> ahh ok
[05:55] <stefg> !alsa
[05:55] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[05:57] <Nikoladze> stefg: I don't have that option in preferences, I do have a sound option but it wont let me chose which sound system to use
[05:57] <eleazar123> hey guys, if i'm in the livecd and i want to chroot to my root partition, what is the command for that?
[05:57] <dave> how do you control startup apps?
[05:58] <mc44> fyrestrtr: hmm when I do 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart ' it doesnt seem to have the same effect as 'Activate' in network-admin. problem is ndiswrapper crashes occasionally so i have to remove and reinsert it, but then i can only connect again by using activate in n-a, and i really want to get a script to do it
[05:58] <zzzyto> i cant past files on my hd cause i think i only have write premissions but i am the owner can someone tell me how to fix this
[05:58] <stefg> Nikoladze: this sound selector thing is obsolete since breezy days... the alsa docs is what you want
[05:58] <Jack_Sparrow> zzzyto: what format is that drive?
[05:58] <dave> zzzyto chmod 777
[05:58] <fyrestrtr> mc44: oh hrmm, don't know anything about that.
[05:58] <Jack_Sparrow> zzzyto: Use sudo or gksudo for gui apps (kdesu of kde)
[05:58] <dave> zzzyto chmod 777 <mount folder>
[05:59] <adzinok> za gl ja
[05:59] <zzzyto> i cant even see my second drives when i click on my computer
[05:59] <zzzyto> i see one drive there but i cant open it and it is mounted
[05:59] <mc44> fyrestrtr: hmm when I do 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart ' it doesnt seem to have the same effect as 'Activate' in network-admin. problem is ndiswrapper crashes occasionally so i have to remove and reinsert it, but then i can only connect again by using activate in n-a, and i really want to get a script to do it
[05:59] <npster> What is a "Kernel" ?
[05:59] <Jack_Sparrow> zzzyto: what format is that drive?
[05:59] <agresor> checking tk build dir... using tk library in /usr/lib
[05:59] <agresor> ./configure: line 2972: /usr/lib/tkConfig.sh: No such file or directory
[05:59] <mc__> !linux > npster
[05:59] <qwerty2k> npster, kernel is linux itself
[05:59] <agresor> what is problem here ?
[05:59] <agresor> what is missing
[05:59] <agresor> !libtk
[05:59] <zzzyto> how do i check
[05:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about libtk - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:59] <agresor> !tk
[05:59] <zzzyto> it is a linux format cause i  used it on another linux os
[05:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about tk - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:00] <zzzyto> and it reconized both hd'
[06:00] <qwerty2k> !esd
[06:00] <ubotu> esd is the enlightened sound deamon. It's deprecated, use !alsa instead
[06:00] <qwerty2k> its deprecated yet dapper uses it for software mixing?
[06:00] <npster> I need to know cause I'm reading something about making my own Kernel in C++, is that possible ?
[06:00] <frogzoo> npster: it's the process that takes care of task management, memory management & io scheduling - it's the core of the operating system
[06:01] <npster> How can I see the Code of the Linux Kernel ?
[06:01] <grigora> hi, could someone tell me the exact cdrecord command to burn an ISO image? I just tried cdrecord -dev=1,0,0 -v image.iso but I don't think it worked, came back with some errors (cdrecord: Input/output error. send opc: scsi sendcmd: no error), does that mean my cdrom is hosed? Thanks
[06:01] <zzzyto> guys pls help me i been on here like serveral t imes asking the same question
[06:01] <frogzoo> npster: apt-get install linux-source
[06:02] <npster> how big is it ?
[06:02] <grigora> npster: about 30+ megs
[06:02] <Jack_Sparrow> zzzyto: use gparted to identify what format that partition is
[06:02] <npster> and in what language is it written in ?
[06:02] <fyrestrtr> grigora: you can right click on the iso and hit 'write to disc' that should do it.
[06:03] <grigora> fyrestrtr: thanks
[06:03] <Jack_Sparrow> zzzyto: You are using Ubuntu or another?
[06:03] <zzzyto> ubuntu
[06:03] <grigora> npster: C
[06:03] <npster> argh...
[06:03] <zzzyto> extended 3
[06:04] <zzzyto> for both of my drives
[06:04] <npster> If I write my own Kernel and boot it and add X and KDE or similar it'll be a OS ?
[06:04] <qwerty2k> npster, lol
[06:04] <fyrestrtr> npster: roflmao
[06:04] <zzzyto> when i click on my computer my second hd witch is storage shows up but i cant mount it
[06:04] <npster> yes or no ?
[06:04] <fistandantilus> your biting off waaay more than you can chew im guessing
[06:04] <qwerty2k> npster, the kernel IS the os, the other apps, X kde etc are programs ontop of the os
[06:04] <Nikoladze> stefg: After I rebooted it seems its only vlc that has problems with sound, my .asoundrc file is as it should be according to the online docs, do you think this is just a vlc problem? It was working before
[06:05] <qwerty2k> npster, also if you dont know that chances are you cant write your own kernel/os
[06:05] <fyrestrtr> npster: *if* you can write your own *kernel* THEN ... maybe.
[06:05] <qwerty2k> npster, caus you would also have to port X and lde to your new kernel or write a linux compatability layer
[06:05] <qwerty2k> kde
[06:05] <fistandantilus> rebuilding a kernel and making a completely new one are two waay different things
[06:05] <npster> look here: nvalidsoftware.net/os/
[06:05] <npster> It is a fun Idea
[06:05] <npster> :)
[06:06] <npster> since I finally learned C++
[06:06] <fyrestrtr> npster: you'd be out in the cold then.
[06:06] <stefg> Nikoladze: check that you vlc is configured right, maybe you need an additional plugin. Check #vlc next door, and make sure you have vlc 0.8.5 from http://nightlies.videolan.org
[06:06] <qwerty2k> npster, if you have only just learnt c+= a full blown kernel/os is a bit over the top for a first project ;)
[06:07] <zzzyto> jack
[06:07] <n00b> anybody has any luck with changing the default resolution of 1280x800 on the intel 915 graphics based  hp laptops?
[06:07] <npster> It is not my first project; it is my firs REALLY BIG ONE :0
[06:07] <npster> first
[06:07] <lisi> hello, I have iPod 60 photo that is corectly mounted, but my amarok 1.4.1 dosent mount it. So I cant syncronise them. gtkpod crashes everytime.
[06:07] <fyrestrtr> !915resolution > n00b
[06:07] <ubotu> I know nothing about 915resolution  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:07] <zzzyto> when i click on my computer only the storage drive shows\ i cant mount it :[
[06:07] <fyrestrtr> !info 915resolution
[06:07] <ubotu> 915resolution: resolution modify tool for Intel graphic chipset. In repository universe, is extra. Version 0.5-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 13 kB, installed size 124 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386)
[06:07] <fistandantilus> n00b: what would you change it to 1280x800 is the native resolution if its widescreen
[06:09] <n00b> I'm using 686 smp kernel - will I have to download any additional drivers?
[06:09] <fyrestrtr> n00b: yeah, if you want acceleration
[06:09] <n00b> k
[06:09] <fistandantilus> if your running 'i810' which is what the 915 is based on and the driver it uses, it has acceleration already
[06:11] <PlHL> Hm, I hope someone can help me. Im having troubles using a USB mouse on my ubuntu laptop. If I plug it in it doesn't work at all. If I restart with the mouse, it's just extremely laggy ... Anyone who know how to fix this?
[06:12] <zzzyto> no one can help me
[06:13] <Jason76> Hi all.  question:  what are some recommended IRC clients for Kubuntu?  I'm using xchat right now.  I'd like a client with fserv ability or addon.  ANy suggestions?
[06:13] <nemlah> Hello all .. how can i remove xubuntu-desktop
[06:13] <nemlah> sudo apt-get remove only removed the dummy package i think
[06:13] <IcemanV9> PlHL: unplug it and replug it - i have usb logitech mouse; also try a different usb port if you have more than 1
[06:13] <Mr_Magic> I'm trying to use ssmpt + gmail and I get the following output: http://pastebin.ca/118964 , any suggestions?
[06:14] <zzzyto> god this sucks
[06:14] <PlHL> IcemanV9: Tried that. And tried three different mouse
[06:14] <fistandantilus> nemlah: welcome to one of ubuntu's great flaws .. the dummy package installs everything and when you remove it it removes nothing, synaptic/apt-get isnt that smart
[06:14] <zzzyto> i might try abnotherf linus os since no one seems to help me
[06:14] <NemesisUK> zzzyto, what dev is the drive
[06:14] <fistandantilus> zzzyto: then go threatening something like that isnt going to get you any help, if someone knows they will answer
[06:15] <shawnr_> does anyone know what this means? : I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/var/lib/scrollkeeper/(null)/scrollkeeper_cl.xml"
[06:15] <nemlah> fistandantilus: so how do i remove all the packages involved??
[06:15] <wsjunior> hello. im trying to install the new ati driver here and i get this error fglrx: Unknown symbol no_iommu, how can i fix it?
[06:15] <j-goddess> humm
[06:15] <fistandantilus> nemlah: might try aptitude, it might take them all out, otherwise you have to do it by hand
[06:15] <zzzyto> i have to hdb1 is my disk i installed it on
[06:15] <zzzyto> and ide disk is my storage fole
[06:15] <npster> How do I create, link C++ code to clear binary ?
[06:16] <zzzyto> i can only view the files on the storage files if i click on home/media/idedesk
[06:16] <NemesisUK> so hdb1 is the drive you want mounted
[06:16] <wsjunior> fglrx: Unknown symbol no_iommu --> how can i fix this?
[06:16] <zzzyto> yes
[06:16] <NemesisUK> what fs
[06:16] <zzzyto> ok here the problem
[06:16] <zzzyto> when i click on my computer i see the idedesk there but i cant click on it cause it says i cant mount it
[06:17] <IcemanV9> PlHL: well, in my case, i used one port that works perfectly with usb mouse. other two doesn't work well. this is what i've experienced with usb mouse. sorry, cannot help more.
[06:17] <NemesisUK> add the drive to fstab so it mounts at boot
[06:17] <zzzyto> n nm
[06:17] <zzzyto> it worjks
[06:17] <j-goddess> zzzyto: he is asking what format file system type is the drive in question?
[06:17] <j-goddess> well becareful
[06:17] <j-goddess> with that
[06:17] <zzzyto> oki want to add hdb1 to my computer so i can mount it
[06:17] <NemesisUK> well yeah
[06:17] <DarkAudit> sigh... changing applications font is working on things like synaptic, but not in regular user-run stuff
[06:18] <DarkAudit> it's got to be something with KDE conflicting... i just can't find out what
[06:18] <PlHL> Hm thx anyhow IcemanV9. I will keep searching for people with similar problem :
[06:18] <zzzyto> how do i add it to fstab
[06:18] <j-goddess> usb drives can act wacko at boot time because of how the drivers are loaded. Your best bett is to make a chmod +x file and load it using update-rc.d that way you can run it at a particular time and it will mount properly
[06:18] <cntb> "add the drive to fstab so it mounts at boot" this must stop friends we are in plug and play era
[06:18] <cntb> most mounts must be automatic on user's responsibility
[06:19] <ic56> azi`: sorry, my irc client ate the dollar sign. here goes again:  :%s/$/}/
[06:20] <zzzyto> how do i add it to fstab
[06:20] <NemesisUK> cntb, I was going the simplest route, I also didnt realise it was a usb disk
[06:20] <AndyCooll> Jason76: The kde version of XChat AFAIA is Konversation
[06:21] <IcemanV9> !fstab > zzzyto
[06:22] <shawnr_> is there a terminal log?
[06:24] <shawnr_> anyone?
[06:24] <IcemanV9> shawnr_: check in /var/log - nope. how about history? in terminal, type history (it shows the list of command) .. is that what you're looking for?
[06:25] <shawnr_> well while running apt-get i bunch or errors scrolled by, this was last night
[06:25] <IRC_> im having trouble with tomcat 5.5- every time i try to do the startup.sh command, it gives me a message that JAVA_HOME or JRE_HOME is not configured. what do i do?
[06:25] <shawnr_> i can't remember what they said
[06:25] <eleazar123> hey guys, have any of you had a problem when installing ubuntu where on the first reboot you get grub error 17? (before grub even finishes loading)
[06:25] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: you get the same error with sudo /etc/init.d/tomcat start ?
[06:26] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: hey buddy. nice to hear from u again. ill try that command.
[06:27] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: it says command not found
[06:27] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: i checked my java and i have blackdown installed
[06:27] <shawnr_> IcemanV9, well while running apt-get i bunch or errors scrolled by, this was last night.  i can't remember what they said. I was wondering if there was a log that I could look up
[06:28] <nikin> hy
[06:28] <jahshua> hey what do you guys recommend, easyubuntu or doing restricted formats by hand?
[06:28] <nikin> i have problems with installing the JAVA runtime envirement
[06:28] <IcemanV9> shawnr_: ah. error log is what you're looking for. apt-get to be specified, right? well, you can redirect error msgs to a file where you can take a look at.
[06:28] <jahshua> or is there a 3rd option...
[06:29] <ic56> when ubotu gives me an answer and ends it with "(2 more messages)".  How do I tell it to send me the additional messages?
[06:29] <jahshua> !restricted formats
[06:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:29] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: how did you install tomcat?
[06:30] <Tutter> can someone tell me the diff between compiz-vanilla and compiz-quinn ?
[06:30] <fyrestrtr> Tutter: plugins :)
[06:30] <Tutter> which has more? :-)
[06:30] <Tutter> hehe thats the one I'll install
[06:31] <zzzyto> i cant move files to my hd
[06:31] <zzzyto> the write premissions is not there pls help me
[06:31] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: im trying to install a subsonic server. i got tomcat 5.0 but then i read the subsonic site and it said i need 5.5 so i uninstalled tomcat 5.0 and downloaded the 5.5 tar from sourceforge. i then just copied the files to /usr/share/tomcat5
[06:31] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: am i doing something wrong?
[06:31] <Bassetts> i cant get my cron to work
[06:31] <sorush20> is ubuntu able to write on ultra speed CDRW ?
[06:32] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: no, but its not that bad :) First thing you do, install the sun-java5-sdk and sun-java5-jvm
[06:32] <fyrestrtr> sorush20: sure
[06:32] <mc__> sorush20: yes
[06:32] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: ok thanks
[06:32] <shawnr_> does anyone know what this means? : I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/var/lib/scrollkeeper/(null)/scrollkeeper_cl.xml"
[06:32] <mc__> sorush20: if your hw supports it
[06:32] <IcemanV9> sorush20: CDRW = writeable 
[06:32] <Ropechoborra> Hi
[06:32] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: then, you need to edit your startx script for tomcat5.5 to set the JAVA_HOME to where the sun java is installed (you first need to install it though)
[06:33] <sorush20> well my hardware does support it but I don't know how to get it working .. I can't even get diskinfo from k3b
[06:33] <eleazar123> hey guys, i just chroot'd into my ubuntu install (in the livecd) and everytime i try to run a command it says unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname(), anybody know how to fix that?
[06:33] <Tutter> fyre: which would u recommend? ( quinn or vanilla)
[06:33] <sorush20> I keep getting the message there is no disk s
[06:33] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: once you install it, sun sudo update-alternatives --config java, and choose the entry that has 'sun' in it. After that, come back.
[06:33] <Ropechoborra> Is there some way to send mails from a terminal with my gmail account ??
[06:33] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: sytnaptic says it cant find sun-java5-sdk
[06:33] <jahshua> tel jahshua about easyubuntu
[06:33] <fyrestrtr> Tutter: quinn (psst. #xgl is better for this kind of stuff)
[06:33] <jahshua> tell jahshua about easyubuntu
[06:33] <Tutter> fyre: ty
[06:33] <jahshua> !tell jahshua about easyubuntu
[06:34] <zzzyto> grrr
[06:34] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: enable the universe and multiverse repositories (see !repositories for clues on how to do that)
[06:34] <zzzyto> this is pissing me off
[06:34] <shawnr_> IcemanV9, you know what this means?    I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/var/lib/scrollkeeper/(null)/scrollkeeper_cl.xml"
[06:34] <IRC_> fyrestrtr:  everything is enabled
[06:34] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: sudo apt-get update
[06:34] <richard> help
[06:35] <WARlrus> Hi, I need some help with running Ubuntu on an old machine of mine.
[06:35] <richard> every time i try to change wireless network settings the computer freezes
[06:35] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: its sudo apt-get sun-java5-sdk sun-java5-jre (I got the names reversed)
[06:35] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: every ubuntu repository is enabled, but im having trouble connecting to some other server i added
[06:35] <nikin> WAR: config?
[06:35] <WARlrus> I've just recieved the CD's in the post, and when I try to boot from the disk it errors
[06:35] <IRC_> fyrestrtr:  i added antesis.freecontrib.org and it doesnt connect to that onle
[06:36] <nikin> what is your computers configuration?
[06:36] <richard> anyone know how to reinstall the network thing ..... maybe its corrupted
[06:36] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: hrmm, you can temporarily disable that one (also, avoid other repos unless you know they are credible)
[06:36] <WARlrus> Buffer I/0 error on device hdc, logical block 1
[06:36] <WARlrus> then scrolls through to block 14, then starts again
[06:36] <fyrestrtr> richard: sudo aptitude reinstall gnome-network-manager <-- try that
[06:36] <IcemanV9> shawnr_: not familiar with scrollkeeper; however there is scrollkeeper.log in /var/log
[06:36] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: ok. and did u mean sudo apt-get install blahblahblah or sudo apt-get blahblahblah
[06:36] <shawnr_> ahhhh
[06:36] <WARlrus> It's an intel celeron processor, thats all I know
[06:37] <shawnr_> thanks Iceman
[06:37] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: the first one, the one with the install blahblah
[06:37] <fyrestrtr> WARlrus: sounds like your hard disk is on its last leg.
[06:37] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: ok. it still says cant find package sun-java5-sdk
[06:37] <fyrestrtr> !info sun-java5-sdk
[06:37] <ubotu> Package sun-java5-sdk does not exist in dapper
[06:37] <richard> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "gnome-netowork-manager"
[06:37] <fyrestrtr> what tha heck
[06:37] <richard> oops
[06:37] <fyrestrtr> brb, let me check
[06:37] <sean> alt<0>
[06:38] <nikin> its calles sun-java5-bin
[06:38] <sean> oops
[06:38] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: ok
[06:38] <WARlrus> I've tried installing Linux before, but my previous Ubuntu disk had an error, hence I sent off for this one
[06:38] <zzzyto> how do i change my premissions so i can write to my hard drive i cant even copy files
[06:38] <IRC_> nikin: is that the sdk or the jre?
[06:38] <IcemanV9> shawnr_: fwiw, i do know that scrollkeepr is part of gnome
[06:38] <WARlrus> is there any solution to this?
[06:38] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk sun-java5-jre :)
[06:38] <nikin> i think its the jre, not sure
[06:38] <nikin> i now install the stuff
[06:38] <Shadow42> "Mr. Worf, scan that ship."
[06:38] <Shadow42> "Aye Captain. 300 dpi?"
[06:39] <nikin> but i installed all packages of java1.5
[06:39] <Shadow42> From the ThinkGeek fortune file
[06:39] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: it says cant find packafe sun-java5-jdk
[06:39] <fyrestrtr> Shadow42: must be a HP scanner
[06:39] <Shadow42> lol
[06:39] <WARlrus> Hello? Can anyone help me with that problem?
[06:39] <Shadow42> While Billy boy was carving his licences into stone, Linus was busy creating the first jackhammer.
[06:39] <Ropechoborra> Is there some way to send mails from a terminal with my gmail account ??
[06:39] <fyrestrtr> !info sun-java5-jdk
[06:39] <ubotu> sun-java5-jdk: Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 4868 kB, installed size 11548 kB
[06:39] <nikin> oh jdk :D
[06:39] <roy_lp> hi every1. i have a problem to connect from this computer to wireless network. i hae wireless modem and wired modem. what should i do ?
[06:39] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: its there in multiverse, enable multiverse. Pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:40] <NickGarvey> Ropechoborra: there is a terminal based web browser "links"
[06:40] <richard> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "gnome-network-manager"
[06:40] <NickGarvey> !info links
[06:40] <ubotu> links: Character mode WWW browser. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.99+1.00pre12-1 (dapper), package size 375 kB, installed size 936 kB
[06:40] <Linuturk> !wine
[06:40] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:40] <zzzyto> how do i change my premissions so i can write to my hard drive i cant even copy files
[06:40] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: how do i pastebin. i have it
[06:40] <Ropechoborra> NickaNicka but i mean something like evolution but for console
[06:40] <gnomefreak> zzzyto: what file system?
[06:40] <fyrestrtr> !pastebin > IRC_
[06:40] <zzzyto> i dont know
[06:40] <zzzyto> how do i check
[06:40] <fyrestrtr> !pastebin
[06:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:41] <gnomefreak> zzzyto: windows?
[06:41] <jwtodd> hey ... i mucked up my xorg.conf while trying to enable my nvidia card and i didn't back up the file ... my bad. any quick notes on how to get my x server back to an operational state? thx.
[06:41] <zzzyto> extended3 it is
[06:41] <fyrestrtr> jwtodd: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg :)
[06:41] <gnomefreak> zzzyto: and you cant write to it?
[06:41] <zzzyto> nope
[06:41] <jwtodd> THX!
[06:41] <roy_lp> hi every1. i have a problem to connect from this computer to wireless network. i hae wireless modem and wired modem. what should i do ?
[06:41] <kouwe> !freenx
[06:41] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[06:41] <gnomefreak> zzzyto: did you install it?
[06:41] <kouwe> !vnc
[06:41] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[06:41] <zzzyto> did i install it to write on the drive
[06:42] <gnomefreak> zzzyto: didyou install ubuntu?
[06:42] <zzzyto> yes
[06:42] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19873
[06:42] <gnomefreak> zzzyto: and sudo <command> doesnt work?
[06:42] <gnomefreak> zzzyto: if you can do updates you can write to the drive
[06:42] <drake> i need some help
[06:42] <zzzyto> will i did updates
[06:43] <zzzyto> but i cant copy it
[06:43] <zzzyto> the paste button isnt highlighted
[06:43] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: you are on dapper?!
[06:43] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: or breezy?!
[06:43] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: dapper
[06:43] <IRC_> fyrestrtr:  i think
[06:43] <gnomefreak> zzzyto: did you try ctrl+v?
[06:43] <NickGarvey> !version
[06:43] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: how do i check? im sure i have dapper
[06:43] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[06:43] <wsjunior> hello. could anybody help me with this? -> http://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/532
[06:43] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: not according to your sources list.
[06:43] <gnomefreak> zzzyto: what are you trying to copy and paste?
[06:44] <NickGarvey> IRC_: lsb_release -a
[06:44] <drake> can anyone point me in the right direction for some linux tools that would help me track an e-mail?
[06:44] <zzzyto> just files to my hd
[06:44] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: dapper
[06:44] <zzzyto> my computer is a mess when i click on my computer it only shows my storage folder
[06:44] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: then your source.list is *really* messed up.
[06:44] <[Wiebel] > Hi
[06:44] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: lol
[06:44] <nocti> where in the net can i get the updated /var/lib/apt/lists/* files?
[06:44] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: how do i fix it
[06:44] <[Wiebel] > I can't mount an ufs disk under ubuntu
[06:44] <gnomefreak> zzzyto: from one hd to another or from one place on one harddrive to another place on same drive?
[06:44] <[Wiebel] > anyone here who has experiance with that?
[06:44] <zzzyto> and my hdb1 drive witch i have linux installed i have to open the drive buy going into home/mdeia/hdb1
[06:45] <zzzyto> can i msg u
[06:45] <reztho> does someone know if the nat prerouting table from iptables works with CDC Ether devices? (ubuntu dapper)
[06:45] <nikin> zzzyto, if you try to use it with sudo, it works?
[06:45] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: change all instances of breezy to dapper, save the file, then do a massive sudo apt-get update then do a sudo apt-get upgrade  then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:45] <zzzyto> i dont know how to move a  file throw sudo i only know throw copy and paste
[06:45] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: or actually, just use !easysource
[06:46] <nikin> zzzyto: do you now Total Cmd or norton cmd?
[06:46] <fyrestrtr> zzzyto: sudo mv /path/to/somefile /where/you/want/it/moved/somefile
[06:46] <richard_> dammit - had to do another restart - network manager froze my computer again
[06:46] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: ok so replace all breeze with the word dapper? then update?
[06:46] <Jack_Sparrow>  Goodmorning gnomefreak
[06:46] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: yes
[06:46] <Brrrd> hi
[06:46] <gnomefreak> Jack_Sparrow: good morning
[06:46] <Brrrd> anything interesting going on with dapper
[06:46] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: or actually, don't do that.
[06:46] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: go here
[06:46] <nocti> !easysource
[06:46] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:46] <fyrestrtr> !easysource
[06:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Brrrd: IT works..
[06:46] <gnomefreak> sudo cp
[06:46] <fyrestrtr> and follow the instructions there.
[06:47] <richard_> fyrestrtr that reinstall sudo thing didnt work
[06:47] <Linuturk> i'm getting some weird things happening when I try to run a program in wine. The sound is lagging behind the program.
[06:47] <richard_> for network manager
[06:47] <Brrrd> I lost anxiety since i installed the final release of dapper.. before that when testing beta releases i was enjoying
[06:47] <Megaqwerty> Is it possible to use both Windows XP, and Ubuntu on the same computer? If so, is there a webpage where I can get step by step instructions how? If there isn't could you pm me with the steps?
[06:47] <programcode> Request help, how can I be able to view windows media player streams in firefox in Ubuntu?
[06:47] <fyrestrtr> richard: I probably don't know the right package name for it.
[06:47] <fyrestrtr> !codec > programcode
[06:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about codec  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:47] <Jack_Sparrow> MeGaQdual boot?
[06:47] <nocti> fyrestrtr, do you know where i can get updated pkg lists (same as the ones in /var/lib/apt/lists/*)
[06:47] <fyrestrtr> !codecs > programcode
[06:47] <dek_aik> zzzyto: read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions it will help you to solve your issues..
[06:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Megaqwerty:  YOU MEAN DUAL BOOTING?
[06:48] <M4573RMatt> hi
[06:48] <fyrestrtr> try !software nocti
[06:48] <programcode> fyrestrt: but what codecs, from where? I have looked for them?
[06:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Soory for the caps
[06:48] <Megaqwerty> what is dual booting?
[06:48] <MenZa> !dualboot
[06:48] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[06:48] <nocti> !software
[06:48] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, apt-cache, the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[06:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Megaqwerty: Option of booting into XP or Ub on power up
[06:48] <MenZa> Dual booting is running Ubuntu and any other OS similtaneously.
[06:48] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: what should i select? packages or sources?
[06:48] <fyrestrtr> programcode: you need the w32codecs, instructions on how to get them are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:48] <Ropechoborra> Jack_Sparrow do u know if thers some way (with a command or something) to send emails ?
[06:48] <nocti> Megaqwerty, i can teach you
[06:48] <jahshua> !restricted formats
[06:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:48] <Megaqwerty> yeah
[06:48] <Megaqwerty> that's what I mean
[06:48] <Ropechoborra> from the console
[06:48] <BHSPitMonkey> no, dual-booting is HAVING both OS's installed on the same computer, not running them simultaneously.
[06:49] <Megaqwerty> right
[06:49] <M4573RMatt> ya monkey is right
[06:49] <BHSPitMonkey> that sounds more like virtualization.
[06:49] <Megaqwerty> that's what I want
[06:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Ropechoborra: From a terminal?
[06:49] <daedric> Hello everyone
[06:49] <Ropechoborra> Jack_Sparrow Yep
[06:49] <craig> hello everyone
[06:49] <craig> my first time using rela *nix
[06:49] <M4573RMatt> does anyone have teamspeak? I have a problem
[06:49] <craig> real*
[06:49] <daedric> anyone ever noticed any kind of slow prformance with a usb dvd burner? i'm using k3b btw...
[06:49] <fyrestrtr> Ropechoborra: you can use the aptly named 'mail' command, or install something decent like mutt
[06:49] <Ropechoborra> craig real what?
[06:49] <stefg> craig: GNU is _not_ Unix :-)
[06:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Megaqwerty: If dapper install sees XP it automagically sets up a dual system
[06:49] <craig> oh
[06:49] <craig> lol
[06:49] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: what shoudl i select? packages or sources?
[06:49] <gnomefreak> Ropechoborra: *nix
[06:50] <M4573RMatt> what happens if an os doesnt ever delete its boot files from ur pc?
[06:50] <wsjunior> hello. could anybody help me with this? -> http://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/532
[06:50] <craig> well, something other that os x / windows (which i don't use anymore)
[06:50] <M4573RMatt> i cant install windows me or ubuntu or anything
[06:50] <Brrrd> where can I discuss win2003 server vs. linux servers in matters related to directory services and stuff ?
[06:50] <Megaqwerty> ok
[06:50] <MenZa> M4573RMatt, you can always boot up on a CD:
[06:50] <Megaqwerty> thanks
[06:50] <M4573RMatt> i cant cause its an old computer
[06:50] <M4573RMatt> im trying to get windows me on it but it wont work
[06:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Megaqwerty:  I suggest that you leave unallocated space on the hard drive and let the install use all unallocated space and create the partitions instead of doing it manually
[06:50] <jason> how do I install a driver for my wifi card?
[06:50] <MenZa> !ndiswrapper
[06:50] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:51] <MenZa> M4573RMatt, put the HD in another machine and reformat it
[06:51] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: sources
[06:51] <M4573RMatt> i have no spare machines
[06:51] <craig> my problem is that my resolution won't go above 1024*768
[06:51] <sensei> Okay, someone *must* know this now, I'm dying of curiosity.. I've tried numerous distros the last few days, and the *only* one that's gotten my K8M800 UniChrome IGP graphics adapter to work is ubuntu.. What have you done to it that no other distro has managed to do?
[06:51] <Ropechoborra> fyrestrtr how is that mail command?
[06:51] <Brrrd>  /l
[06:51] <craig> how can i make it go highger?
[06:51] <fyrestrtr> Ropechoborra: very good?
[06:51] <W_McL> then boot from a live cd and reformat the disc with fdisk
[06:51] <Ropechoborra> grrr my english s*cks =(
[06:51] <gnomefreak> sensei: more than likely the other distros you tried didnt have the drivers for it preinstalled
[06:51] <M4573RMatt> i did fdisk with windows ME and it still trys to boot the linux i deleted
[06:51] <stefg> M4573RMatt: how much Ram does the old box have?
[06:52] <M4573RMatt> 128 or somthing
[06:52] <Ropechoborra> i meant... wich is the command
[06:52] <stefg> M4573RMatt: perfect for xubuntu :-P
[06:52] <sensei> gnomefreak: ubuntu uses the regular xorg via_drv.. or so it seems
[06:52] <M4573RMatt> ubuntu lags like hell on it
[06:52] <fyrestrtr> Ropechoborra: its called 'mail', but you might like sendemail
[06:52] <M4573RMatt> and it wont install
[06:52] <Ropechoborra> Oka
[06:52] <Ropechoborra> ty
[06:52] <sensei> gnomefreak: I've tried to install other drivers from source, but they tend to lock my whole system up
[06:52] <fyrestrtr> !info sendemail
[06:52] <ubotu> sendemail: email-from-console sending tool. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.52-3 (dapper), package size 28 kB, installed size 148 kB
[06:52] <M4573RMatt> i dont know whats wrong with it
[06:52] <craig> how to i force my ubuntu to go above 1024*768 ???
[06:52] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: ok i copied and pasted the generated code. now what?
[06:52] <Jack_Sparrow> craig: sounds like you are running the vesa driver and not the specific one for your card, what vid card do you have
[06:52] <stefg> M4573RMatt: is there a CDR Drive in it or not?
[06:52] <fyrestrtr> Ropechoborra: mutt is a very well rounded email client for the console.
[06:53] <M4573RMatt> ya there is
[06:53] <Ropechoborra> fyrestrtr i'll try it
[06:53] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: you copy pasted it to /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[06:53] <jason> thanks ubotu but the broadcom guide for dapper didn't work. I'm getting error messages at the installation of the drivers
[06:53] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: yes
[06:53] <stefg> then get the smartbootmanager floppy, this will allow you to boot from CD, even if the BIOS can't do it
[06:53] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: sudo apt-get update -- then, sudo apt-get upgrade -- then, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:53] <richard__> meh - crashed again
[06:54] <M4573RMatt> well see i boot from the ubuntu cd and windows me cds fine but the ubuntu live cd lags like crazy and doesnt install proparly and the windows me thing wants to format or somthing and cant do it
[06:54] <M4573RMatt> it all comes back to suse trying to load
[06:54] <fyrestrtr> M4573RMatt: how much ram do you have on the machine?
[06:54] <M4573RMatt> around 128
[06:55] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: i did update and it gives me the same message about the antesis.freecontrib.org cant be connected. i looked at the packages and it keeps looking for the breezy-updates
[06:55] <fyrestrtr> M4573RMatt: that's why :( livecd uses the ram a lot.
[06:55] <abhinay> how to install this theme  http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=34132
[06:55] <Jack_Sparrow> and heavy on cpu
[06:55] <Ropechoborra> fyrestrtr when it askme for the email name (the name after the @) it should be the original one? or just a name u want others to see?
[06:55] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: then you didn't update the /etc/apt/sources.list file.
[06:55] <jason> I'm getting this error
[06:55] <jason> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:55] <M4573RMatt> is there a way to get rid of the SuSe boot files?
[06:55] <jason> jason@laptop:~/Desktop/bcm_43xx$ sudo bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware bcmwl5.sys
[06:55] <jason> Sorry, the input file is either wrong or not supported by fwcutter.
[06:55] <jason> I can't find the MD5sum 69f940672be0ecee5bd1e905706ba8ce :(
[06:55] <M4573RMatt> thats whats causing all the problems
[06:55] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: was the command sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list then paste the new one in and save?
[06:56] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: you need to be root to edit that file, gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:56] <nocti> M4573RMatt, format the SUSE partition?
[06:56] <ic56> ubotu tell ic56 about java
[06:56] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: pastebin your new sources.list
[06:56] <M4573RMatt> the thing is that there is no suse partition o.o
[06:56] <nocti> M4573RMatt, and reinstall grub (or whatever boot manager you like)
[06:56] <Jack_Sparrow> abhinay: OPen the theme manager and drop the theme.tar onto the manager.. then selet it in the list
[06:56] <M4573RMatt> how do i reinstal grub?
[06:56] <jason> how do I install this driver with ndiswrapper?
[06:56] <fyrestrtr> ic56: /msg ubotu java works also :)
[06:56] <stefg> M4573RMatt: the Ubuntu Desktop-CD needs 256 MB...and probably your partiton table is broken. you need xubuntu, and a small utility CD like Insert to clean the drive before. But don't you poison this machine with Win ME, the single worst OS on planet earth
[06:56] <jason> I've been working on this all night
[06:56] <fyrestrtr> M4573RMatt: sudo grub-install /dev/xxx
[06:56] <M4573RMatt> haha
[06:57] <nocti> M4573RMatt, the ubuntu installation will install the bootloader for you
[06:57] <fyrestrtr> M4573RMatt: you can also use the alternate install cd, which isn't a livecd
[06:57] <abhinay> Jack_Sparrow, thank you
[06:57] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[06:57] <ic56> fyrestrtr: testing ubotu.  The docs say it was supposed to display in channel.  Instead it PM'd me. :-(
[06:57] <jason> this firmware just doesn't want to install
[06:57] <Jack_Sparrow> abhinay: DOnt try to un-tar it and do it manually
[06:57] <fyrestrtr> ic56: it worked properly.
[06:57] <M4573RMatt> thanks ill go try some of that out, see you all later (thanks for teh support)
[06:58] <ic56> fyrestrtr: eh? did you see ubotu's response?
[06:58] <mezoko> why is cups web based confg disabled?
[06:58] <mezoko> like the administrative tab
[06:58] <fyrestrtr> mezoko: because you are meant to use system > administration > printing
[06:58] <jason> ok anyone, what's the command to get ndiswrapper to install this firmware because the wiki guide is failing me.
[06:59] <mezoko> fyrestrtr, but what if your using a server
[06:59] <mezoko> with no X configured
[06:59] <fyrestrtr> mezoko: ah, good point.
[06:59] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19875
[06:59] <mezoko> that makes life tough
[06:59] <fyrestrtr> mezoko: I did it once, forgot how though :(
[06:59] <eleazar123> anybody know how to figure out the order of drives on a system? (like which drive is 1 or 2, etc etc)
[06:59] <ic56> when ubotu gives me an answer and ends it with "(2 more messages)".  How do I tell it to send me the additional messages?
[07:00] <Dave> hi
[07:00] <mezoko> fyrestrtr, would I be able to compile cups myself?
[07:00] <mezoko> or would that mess up things?
[07:00] <sensei> Where would I investigate the internals of the via driver in ubuntu further?
[07:00] <craig> please can someone help me, why can't i put the resolution of ubuntu above 1024 * 768 ?????
[07:00] <sensei> I can't seem to find any records of the devs doing anything special to it, but yet it is special :)
[07:00] <abhinay> Jack_Sparrow, wot abt this, hw to install it ?, it is in the zip format  http://www.deviantart.com/view/28325729/
[07:01] <Dave> i got a problem installing Ubuntu, is some problem with the HDD buffer, Ubuntu crash when is loading the root system, can anyone help me with that?
[07:01] <jason> i've got what's supposed to be the "correct driver" for my wifi, how do I install it with ndiswrapper? the wiki method gives me errors!
[07:01] <fyrestrtr> mezoko: sure, but that's really drastic, there is a way to set the password.
[07:01] <mezoko> fyrestrtr, would all I have to do is passwd as sudo to set a root passwd?
[07:01] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: ermm -- okay, here is what you do, I'll paste my sources.list -- copy that and paste it in yours.
[07:02] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: ko thanks
[07:02] <fyrestrtr> mezoko: yeah sudo -i then passwd
[07:02] <jason> why do I get this message? jason@laptop:~/Desktop/bcm_43xx$ sudo bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware bcmwl5.inf
[07:02] <jason> Sorry, the input file is either wrong or not supported by fwcutter.
[07:02] <jason> I can't find the MD5sum 0ce5a41c6023aa1a36a4821d6b9a77c8 :(
[07:02] <jason> jason@laptop:~/Desktop/bcm_43xx$
[07:02] <nocti> Dave, how much swap space and root space did you give for ubuntu?
[07:02] <jwtodd> hmmmm , i'm still having trouble getting a happy xorg.confg. i pretty much went w/ the default values, just to get back to working xserver config.
[07:03] <Dave> i dont have any yet, my hard drive is unparticioned, it has 80GB
[07:03] <Jack_Sparrow> abhinay:  looking now
[07:03] <mezoko> fyrestrtr, that didn't work
[07:03] <craig> please can someone help me, why can't i put the resolution of ubuntu above 1024 * 768 ?????
[07:04] <nocti> Dave, in the part where you are about to partition your hd, did you choose automatically partition?
[07:04] <jwtodd> BadaBing BadaBoom ... i've got x back :)
[07:04] <fyrestrtr> mezoko: what didn't work?
[07:04] <jwtodd> much appreciated!
[07:04] <mezoko> I sitll can't access the admin page
[07:04] <mezoko> I enter the username and password and no aval
[07:04] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: try this source.list file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19876
[07:04] <Dave> i can get that part yet, they always crash at the beggining, when i choose run live cd or install
[07:05] <nocti> Dave seems your hd can't be detected?
[07:05] <fyrestrtr> craig: what kind of video card do you have?
[07:05] <Dave> i know how to make the partition, but i dont understand what to do to get there, i have 2 original instalation CDs and none of them works, always the same error
[07:06] <fyrestrtr> Dave: what error?
[07:06] <Jack_Sparrow> abhinay: That theme is not setup correctly for auto install.
[07:06] <craig> fyrestrtr, i'm not sure, i'm running under VM
[07:06] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: ok i pasted it in there. now its updating
[07:06] <Jack_Sparrow> craig: what video card do you have?
[07:06] <craig> i'm on a macbook pro running parallels
[07:06] <Dave> something like this Buffer I/O error on device hdd, logical block 357296
[07:06] <] GD> Hi, about 2 months ago I installed Ubuntu over my Windows Partition, and had mostly no problems with it since, but recently I reinstalled windows on another partition on the same harddrive, and now I'm having trouble booting to my Ubuntu Partition, I've tried using GAG and booting from there, but it finds the Ubuntu OS when I want to add it to my OS'list during setup, but when selecting to boot from it it says it can't find it. I che
[07:06] <fyrestrtr> craig: its probably a restriction on the emulated vga device that the vm provides, don't think you can do much about it.
[07:07] <sensei> ] GD: Your post was cut off
[07:07] <] GD> oh xD
[07:07] <] GD> from where?
[07:07] <craig> i'm sure i got it higher before though, on ubuntu 5.01
[07:07] <sensei> ] GD: At "I che"
[07:07] <] GD>  I checked if the partition is still there, using Gparted(i'm currently running ubuntu off the liveCD) and it looks like its there, it gives me the size of the partition, used space, and free space.. but I can't boot from it.
[07:07] <Dave> it crash with this message (UNCOMPRESING LINUX......... OK BOOTING THE KERNEL)
[07:07] <nocti> Dave, is this an old HD? bad sectors? have you tried using it for other OSs (like windows perhaps)
[07:07] <abhinay> Jack_Sparrow, ok, anyway Gray theme is nice. isn't it ?
[07:07] <fyrestrtr> ] GD: read the !grub wiki?
[07:08] <] GD> nope.. not sure what Grub is
[07:08] <fyrestrtr> *blink*
[07:08] <] GD> heh.
[07:08] <Dave> yeah, i think might have bad sectors, theres anything i can do about it?
[07:08] <fyrestrtr> !grub > ] GD
[07:08] <] GD> thats right =[ i admit it.... !grub > me
[07:08] <eleazar123> lol
[07:08] <] GD> anyways, where's the grub wiki?
[07:08] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: ok it says that berrorkid.com, xgl.compiz.info cant be accessed because of signatures. it also says that ubuntu security has duplicate entries. what next
[07:08] <nocti> Dave, you can use a live cd and use fsck on the drive first to mark the badsectors
[07:08] <fyrestrtr> rofl
[07:08] <fyrestrtr> !grub
[07:08] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:08] <] GD> =] 
[07:09] <Dave> may i run the live cd on windows?
[07:09] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: okay ignore those, now try sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:09] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: ok
[07:09] <Ropechoborra> fyrestrtr I've installed and cofigured mutt but i just cant send a email ! =( I wrote the mail, but dont know how to send it
[07:09] <Dave> because i can from the boot cd
[07:09] <Dave> cant*
[07:09] <daedric> guys... equivalent to k3b in gnome?
[07:09] <fyrestrtr> Ropechoborra: do you have a mta installed? Are you on a server install?
[07:09] <nocti> a live cd is an OS on itself, it doesn't need any other OS to run on
[07:10] <Ropechoborra> mta?
[07:10] <fyrestrtr> darich: gnomebaker is one (you can also run k3b in gnome)
[07:10] <daedric> fyrestrtr, thank you :)
[07:10] <Dave> thats the problem, the live CD doesnt run either =(
[07:10] <fyrestrtr> mail transfer agent (something that sends your emails for you)
[07:10] <daedric> i've heard of bonfire
[07:10] <Jack_Sparrow> abhinay: the themes from gnome-look work fine and many are close to what you want
[07:10] <Ropechoborra> fyrestrtr dont know what that is =/
[07:10] <daedric> but can0t find it in apt-cace
[07:10] <daedric> cache*
[07:10] <nocti> Dave, get a small live cd with fsck OR get a new hd, i suggest the latter
[07:10] <Dave> do u guys knows any tool to do that on windows?
[07:10] <daedric> Dave, boot from CD?
[07:11] <fyrestrtr> Ropechoborra: are you running a server?
[07:11] <Ropechoborra> fyrestrtr server of what?
[07:11] <abhinay> Jack_Sparrow, Yes, gnome-look.org is cool
[07:11] <] GD> fyrestrtr, will restoring Grub allow me to boot windows if i choose to, on startup?
[07:11] <Dave> i cant boot from the CD, shows me the same error, with some HDD buffer problem
[07:11] <nocti> Dave, windows can only mark bad sectors if the partition is vfat/ntfs, if you install linux on it the markings are gone
[07:11] <fyrestrtr> a ubuntu server. are you running a server install?
[07:11] <fyrestrtr> ] GD: it should :)
[07:11] <] GD> =]  thanks
[07:12] <nocti> Dave: http://www.frozentech.com/content/livecd.php
[07:12] <Ropechoborra> Im with normal ubuntu, and only installed mutt
[07:12] <no_gatez_fan> Dave/ can you boot to a cd or a floppy
[07:12] <fyrestrtr> Ropechoborra: so, why don't you use evolution or something like thunderbird?
[07:12] <Ropechoborra> because i want to do it from the console
[07:13] <Dave> i can boot form a CD, but is not working
[07:13] <nocti> Dave, get a small live cd and try to fsck your hd, otherwise get a new hd, that hd is bound to break down any moment
[07:13] <fyrestrtr> Ropechoborra: okay, then you need to setup mutt properly.
[07:13] <Dave> hey Nocti, ty so much man, im gonna do what u told me
[07:13] <nocti> Dave, np
[07:13] <Ropechoborra> how do i do that then ?  =/
[07:14] <fyrestrtr> Ropechoborra: well, normally -- what I have done is use fetchmail to grab the mail from my pop3/imap servers, and dump it in my home directory where mutt reads it from.
[07:15] <fyrestrtr> Ropechoborra: but honestly, unless there is a potent reason for you to set this up, I suggest you use the gui email programs (they are alot simpler to use). Unless you are doing this because, say you are going to be logging in over ssh and checking your message from console or some such.
[07:16] <Ropechoborra> fyrestrtr no, i only want to send emails from the console
[07:16] <Ropechoborra> Just that..
[07:16] <Ropechoborra> Is there some simple program for that?
[07:16] <galago> Hello Ubunteros!  I have an HP PSC-1315 (printer scanner copier) that is printing black text in green.  This happens with both the default install of Dapper and with an up to date version.  Help?!
[07:17] <nocti> Ropechoborra, fyrestrtr has already told you, install mailx or mutt or pine
[07:17] <ic56> when ubotu gives me an answer and ends it with "(2 more messages)".  How do I tell it to send me the additional messages?
[07:17] <Ropechoborra> i got mutt but cant send the email
[07:17] <nocti> Ropechoborra, you need to configure it for your pop/smtp servers
[07:18] <nocti> Ropechoborra, search for a good howto in google, lots there
[07:18] <stefg> mutt is a MUA not a MTA
[07:18] <fyrestrtr> Ropechoborra: the "correct" way to do it would be to setup a MTA ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer )
[07:18] <nocti> stefg, well i assume he has an mta installed already
[07:18] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: im updating right now. its taking like forever
[07:19] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: yeap, that means its working :P
[07:20] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: also means, either [a]  you were not running Dapper (in that case, congratulations -- you'll be on dapper soon) [b]  you were running breezy, somehow upgraded to dapper, and forgot to update the sources.list file. I bet its [a]  ;)
[07:20] <fyrestrtr> Ropechoborra: the simplest way, use sendemail (its a quick program that just does what it says)
[07:20] <jwtodd> excellen! now i've got a good xserver config such that bzflag looks nice. alas, i don't have sound for bzflag. i u/g from breezy to dapper about 2m back. on breeze audio seemed to work out of the box. any sound tuning tips?
[07:20] <jwtodd> thx
[07:21] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: actually i downloaded dapper and burned an iso on xp. then i installed dapper ontop of my breezy. so i guess i for got to update
[07:21] <Ropechoborra> Ill try sendemail then
[07:21] <Ropechoborra> Thanks!
[07:23] <fyrestrtr> Ropechoborra: highly suggest that. In linux, the way things work is, all programs send email to a 'silent' server running on your pc listning on the smtp port (port 25) and then whatever is running there, takes care of sending email out to the net.
[07:23] <jonc101> i've just installed server 6.06, is there a way for me to change the console font, the screen is trailing off the edge of my 15" monitor (which obviously doesnt seem to support the default console font/resolution properly)
[07:24] <fyrestrtr> Ropechoborra: that's why I said, use evolution/thunderbird etc. Its a lot easier to set it up. The other way to do things in linux is, using a program like fetchmail combined with a mta like postfix, you can download messages and sort them automatically (before they even hit your inbox) and then check them from anywhere.
[07:24] <jonc101> ...its also an lcd monitor and the 'auto' button doesnt work for some reason
[07:24] <Jowi> !framebuffer
[07:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about framebuffer - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:24] <fyrestrtr> for sorting, you'd need something like procmail.
[07:24] <Storkme> how can i tell what program is blocking my soundcard
[07:24] <counter123> how can I change the keyboard layout for the console (without X)?
[07:25] <Jowi> jonc101: have a look at the bottom of this page to change resolutions https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[07:25] <timhaughton> Hi, I can't get Totem to play any video file. To play an AVI or WMV what do I need to do?
[07:25] <Jowi> jonc101: set the framebuffer to your LCD monitors native resolution
[07:25] <jonc101> tx Jowi
[07:25] <fyrestrtr> timhaughton: follow the instruction on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:25] <fork> Is dapper  the equalent of debians testing?
[07:25] <timhaughton> fyr: Thanks
[07:26] <jwtodd> how do you set the framebuffer to the lcd's native resolution? i have the same problem.
[07:26] <Jowi> jwtodd: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[07:26] <Jack_Sparrow> anyone know where the screensaver files are located?
[07:27] <Jowi> jwtodd: bottom of the page
[07:27] <jwtodd> thx
[07:27] <hangfire> forget totem, use VLC
[07:27] <counter123> how can I change the keyboard layout for the console (without X)?
[07:28] <fyrestrtr> counter123: try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LocaleConf
[07:28] <stefg> native dapper packs of vlc 0.8.5 available from http://nightlies.videolan.org
[07:28] <Blissex> counter123: 'man loadkeys' too
[07:30] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: ok while this is updating, what java packages do i need to install to start a subsonic server?
[07:30] <stefg> http://qref.sourceforge.net/Debian/reference/ch-tune.en.html#s-l10n might help also in setting up the right keyboard
[07:31] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: sun-java5-jdk sun-java5-jre
[07:32] <junkY_San> how to i change the wlan rate vom 11 to 54?
[07:32] <fork> Does ubuntu have a net-install option?
[07:32] <fyrestrtr> fork: yes
[07:32] <fyrestrtr> !installation
[07:32] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[07:32] <ucordes> video converting: i need a program to convert avi and mpeg video to 3gp format
[07:32] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> what is the programm to record cd?
[07:32] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: ok. then after i install those, what command is it to set the default java?
[07:33] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: read !java, I've told you 4 times :)
[07:33] <Jowi> ] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[: cdrecord is one of them
[07:33] <fyrestrtr> ] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[: pop in a blank CD, a window will popup and then you can create a cd from there.
[07:33] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> i've tried but I've burn 7 cd
[07:34] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: ok. then i select the one with sun. what next?
[07:34] <aergern> ] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[: Use GnomeBaker or K3B.
[07:34] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: then, edit the startx script and export JAVA_HOME=/wherever/the/java/library/is
[07:34] <crogue5> is there a program that will run a slideshow as your desktop background for gnome?
[07:34] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: (hint: its the same listing you get with that commands to select the java)
[07:34] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> gnomebaker tell me "cd ok" but when read cd... cd is blank!
[07:35] <stefg> Jowi: are you the guy having written the EPIA and DRI howto for Hoary/Breezy?
[07:35] <Jowi> yeah stefg
[07:35] <fork> Whats the difference between  Dapper, Breezy, Hoary, and Warty?
[07:35] <jroes> does anyone know how the -doc packages work?
[07:35] <aergern> ] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[: then you have other issues.. mine worked fine the first time after install.
[07:35] <jroes> like, are users expected to just know they are in /usr/share/doc and go find the docs they installed?
[07:35] <fyrestrtr> fork: the times they were released.
[07:35] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: what do you mean "commands to select the java"? is it going to be a .sh or like a one word command?
[07:35] <stefg> Jowi: do you have Dapper intalled on your epia machine? Does it work without tweaking now?
[07:35] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: ;) read !java
[07:36] <fork> fyrestrtr, is dapper have the most up to date packages ?
[07:36] <fyrestrtr> fork: for now, yes.
[07:36] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: nothing comes up when you do !java
[07:36] <Jowi> stefg: yeah, finally the fix is in the dapper kernel :)
[07:36] <fyrestrtr> !java
[07:36] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[07:36] <aergern> fork: if you look at Dapper being the 6.06 release and Breezy being 5.10 .. I would assume so. ;D
[07:36] <stefg> Jowi: thanks for the info... time to build a new system i think :-)
[07:36] <fork> fyrestrtr, something newere coming out soon?
[07:37] <fishy> For some reason, a USB drive I plugged in isn't reachable - even chmod won't work on it. How can I make it available every time I plug it in?
[07:37] <fyrestrtr> fork: they are working on eft, but I don't know when it will be out. See !schedule
[07:37] <Blissex> fishy: not a good question... More detail.
[07:37] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: ok. so then when i run tomcat, it should just startup right?
[07:37] <fork> !schedule
[07:37] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[07:37] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: sure, it should. If not come back and ask.
[07:37] <Megaqwerty> What is "memory swap" relating to partitions for dual boot configuration?
[07:37] <Jowi> stefg: dapper is very nice on the epia. gnome is too slow for mine M10000 but the rest flies
[07:38] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: ok thanks. do i have to leave a terminal open to keep tomcat runing?
[07:38] <fishy> Blissex: When I put my USB drive in, I can't reach it via nautilus, and doing "chmod -R 775" doesn't work on it either.
[07:38] <Jowi> flies... flyes?
[07:38] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: you shouldn't it should send it to the background
[07:38] <fishy> Blissex: I want to know how to see the contents and transfer/copy things from it.
[07:38] <aergern> fishy: what filesystemm is your USB drive?
[07:38] <ne78> Is it possible to upgrade from Debian/sid to Edgy (i'm an experienced debian user i don't fear dpkg) ?
[07:38] <fishy> aergern: FAT32, I believe
[07:38] <jwtodd> perfect! now i've got a nice console, vs default resolution. thx for the pointers!
[07:38] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: ok. do you happen to know the command to see what your ip is?
[07:38] <stefg> Jowi: thinking about xubuntu or fluxbuntu... for the 'bedroom machine' that'll be fine
[07:38] <Jowi> np jwtodd
[07:38] <Blissex> fishy: ahhhh that is a long and difficult discussion. There can also be very many hardware problems.
[07:38] <_binks_> can someone help me browse my suse partition i can get to /home but it shows but it shows no files or folders inside
[07:38] <counter123> another problem: If I select German keyboard layout on X with setxkbmap de, the key with < and > isnt working, if I select us layout, the key works, but I'd like to have that key working with German layout, too
[07:39] <fishy> Blissex: It worked before - what is wrong with it now?
[07:39] <Megaqwerty> What is "memory swap" relating to partitions for dual boot configuration?
[07:39] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: your external IP? http://www.whatismyip.com -- your current network IP = ifconfig
[07:39] <aergern> fishy: FAT32 can't have permissions set to it.. chmod won't work on it.
[07:39] <fork> fyrestrtr, is dapper equalent of debians testing or unstable?
[07:39] <Blissex> fishy: answering that requires a bit of telepathy...
[07:39] <ne78> fork: stable
[07:39] <fyrestrtr> fork: I don't know what its the relation there.
[07:39] <Blissex> fishy: however we can tell you a few simple checks to do.
[07:39] <fishy> aergern: Hmmm...so I can't access it? It works fine on Windows.
[07:39] <andi5> hi. can somebody tell me why abiword claims that it can open postscript (*.ps) files and how i can change that?
[07:39] <Blissex> fishy: first try 'lsusb'. Does it list the device?
[07:40] <Jowi> stefg: all the lighter wms are good. tested Openbox, Pekwm, Sawfish, Xfce etc. Pekwm and Sawfish are definetley snappy.
[07:40] <fishy> Blissex: Yeah, it's there
[07:40] <Megaqwerty> who can help me with dual boot questions?
[07:40] <aergern> You can access it just fine.. mine works without a hitch.. but you won't be able to use chmod or chgrp on the files.
[07:40] <fishy> aergern: I'm not sure if it's FAT or FAT32.
[07:40] <fyrestrtr> fishy: type mount
[07:40] <Blissex> fishy: so far so good... try now 'cat /proc/scsi/scsi'
[07:40] <godtvisken> What does `BurnFree' mean in the CD burning context?
[07:40] <fishy> Blissex: Yeah, it's there too.
[07:40] <aergern> You won't be able to say do this... "chown <blah> filename" it's a FAT32/FAT16 issue. Not a Linux issue.
[07:41] <skypa> godtvisken, buffer underrun protection
[07:41] <fishy> Also, for some reason, all the items in my System -> Admin menu have disappeared...one problem at a time, though. ;)
[07:41] <Blissex> fishy: now, as <fyrestrtr> said, type 'mount'
[07:41] <skypa> helps not messing up your cds while burning
[07:41] <aergern> But you should be able to read/write to it just fine.
[07:41] <Megaqwerty> can anyone help me with dual boot questions?
[07:41] <Blissex> fishy: is there any entry saying '/dev/sd....'
[07:41] <fishy> Blissex: Yeah, I see it in there somewhere - and on the desktop...
[07:41] <counter123> another problem: If I select German keyboard layout on X with setxkbmap de, the key with < and > isnt working, if I select us layout, the key works, but I'd like to have that key working with German layout, too
[07:41] <ne78> Is it possible to upgrade from debian/sid to edgy ? And i would like to know if all the debian sid packages are availaible in ubuntu in universe and multiverse repository ?
[07:42] <Blissex> fishy: so what isn't working?
[07:42] <fishy> Blissex: It is assigned to /media/usbdisk
[07:42] <aergern> If you were to format it in a Linux//UNIX fs then you cann use chmod, chgrp and chown.. etc.
[07:42] <fyrestrtr> counter123: maybe you need an alternate german layout.
[07:42] <fishy> Blissex: I can't reach it unless I'm using sudo.
[07:42] <Blissex> fishy: could have said that a long while ago...
[07:42] <fishy> "You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "usbdisk"."
[07:42] <pushpop> quick question, by any chance is it possible to have a Ubuntu workstation log into Active Directory?
[07:42] <Blissex> pushpop: yes, and it is hard.
[07:42] <aergern> Then you don't have permissions to mount the device as a regular user.. go into the UI user management tool and give yourself permission to do so. :D
[07:42] <pushpop> I would imagine so.
[07:43] <Blissex> fishy: all you need is to mount the device with your user privileges. This can be slightly tricky.
[07:43] <counter123> which alternate german keyboard layouts could I try? I've tried setxkbmap de nodeadkeys, but that doesn't make a difference
[07:43] <Blissex> fishy: there is however a Wiki pages on exactly this issue.
[07:43] <Blissex> !vfat
[07:43] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[07:43] <fishy> Alright, thanks!
[07:43] <aergern> sudo let's you exexcute commands on a one time basis as root.. so of course it works.
[07:43] <aergern> :)
[07:44] <fyrestrtr> counter123: seeing as I am not German, I wouldn't know -- but there was someone else earlier that I helped solve a similar german issue with. Its System > Preferences > Keyboard
[07:45] <Megaqwerty> can anyone help me with dual boot questions?
[07:45] <counter123> System - Preferences - Keyboard doesn't work for me becaus I'm using KDE, do you happen to know how I can do the same thing there? The KDE keyboard settings seem to include stuff like repeat rate but not keymaps...
[07:45] <fishy> Blissex: It's not a partition, it's an external USB device. A camera memory card inserted into a card reader. The script didn't really work...
[07:45] <ardchoille> Megaqwerty: I'm sure someone can try. what are the questions?
[07:45] <Megaqwerty> What is "memory swap" relating to partitions for dual boot configuration?
[07:45] <MoNkUnClE> if i had to pass a command during boot to the kernel where would i put that?
[07:45] <Blissex> fishy: it is the same as a partition...
[07:45] <fyrestrtr> counter123: eh :( sorry I don't. Maybe someone else will.
[07:46] <Blissex> fishy: uhm, however probably it was mounted for you by 'udev' or some other instrument of the devil.
[07:46] <ardchoille> !swap
[07:46] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwapFaq for more info
[07:46] <fishy> Blissex: Well, it's not finding anything, since it is assigned not as an sd* or hd* drive - it's "usbdisk"
[07:46] <isak_> is someone online that understands permissions?
[07:46] <ardchoille> isak_: yes
[07:46] <Blissex> fishy: '/media/usbdisk' is the mount point. The device will be '/dev/sda' or something like that.
[07:46] <fishy> hmm
[07:47] <fishy> well, the script didn't find anything
[07:47] <Blissex> fishy: try 'df' and you'll see.
[07:47] <isak_> ardchoille: im gonna take the LPIC1 exam next week.. im reading testking but the umask questions doesn't seem to be right. i will give you one example.
[07:47] <Blissex> fishy: because it is already mounted...
[07:47] <fishy> ah, ok
[07:47] <fishy> well, how do I access it?
[07:47] <Megaqwerty> What is "memory swap" relating to partitions for dual boot configuration?
[07:47] <Blissex> fishy: however, the change the permissions you probably need to tweak 'udev' and then reinsert it.
[07:47] <Blissex> !usbstorage
[07:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about usbstorage - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:47] <ardchoille> !swap > Megaqwerty
[07:47] <Blissex> !flash
[07:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:47] <vietdh> co bac na`o nguoi viet nam ko a
[07:47] <tocool4u> !Ubuntu
[07:47] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[07:48] <hussam> archive.ubuntu.com keeps timing out, sometimes it's just a bit slow. any other recommened mirror?
[07:48] <fishy> Blissex: What's udev?
[07:48] <fishy> !udev
[07:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about udev - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:48] <Blissex> fishy: there is another page on 'udev' and mounting flash drives.
[07:48] <] G1> hmm... trying to follow ubuntu's wiki to restore grub,... it says to enter "root (hd0,0)" but when I enter it, i recieve a "command not found" error
[07:48] <tocool4u> !info udev
[07:48] <ubotu> udev: rule-based device node and kernel event manager. In repository main, is important. Version 079-0ubuntu34 (dapper), package size 233 kB, installed size 804 kB
[07:48] <] G1> err... "unrecognized command"
[07:48] <Blissex> fishy: 'udev' is the autoconfiguration dmon... It handles ''temporary'' devices.
[07:48] <tocool4u> !info udev
[07:48] <ubotu> udev: rule-based device node and kernel event manager. In repository main, is important. Version 079-0ubuntu34 (dapper), package size 233 kB, installed size 804 kB
[07:48] <Megaqwerty> thanks
[07:48] <fishy> Blissex: Where do I modify it?
[07:48] <ic56> kexman: SD cards are re-writable.  Are they not?
[07:48] <ardchoille> :)
[07:49] <ardchoille> ic56: Yes, they are
[07:49] <Blissex> fishy: find the Wiki/web page :-). I don't use 'udev' at all...
[07:49] <fyrestrtr> ic56: that highly depends on that little notch :)
[07:49] <ardchoille> fyrestrtr: Ahh, good catch there
[07:49] <Blissex> !sd
[07:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about sd - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:49] <isak_> ardchoille: You want the default permissions for your files to be -rw-r-----. How must you set umask? A. 037 B. 640 C. 038 D. 027. The correct answer according to testking is A. but that doesn't make sense? then it would be -rwxr----- (777-037=740). the really right answer should be umask 137 (777-137=640) then it would be -rw-r-----. right?
[07:50] <fishy> arg, there isn't a wiki page for udev
[07:50] <tocool4u> !info sd
[07:50] <ubotu> Package sd does not exist in dapper
[07:50] <isak_> ardchoille: then almost all the umask questions in testking would be wrong
[07:50] <ardchoille> isak_: umask is the opposite of the way -rw-r--r-- works
[07:51] <fishy> Ok, I guess I'll have to find someone else to help me with this - what about my admin menu? Random items in it keep disappearing...
[07:51] <Blissex> fishy: but there is somewhere a page for tweaking the mounting of USB storage devices like yours via 'udev'.
[07:51] <selfharm> i have a 260gig partition that i cant access on this brand new isntallation of ubutnu server. there is a message in gparted that says "unable to read the contents of this filesystem. did you install the correct plugin for this filesystem"
[07:51] <isak_> ardchoille: hmm, i didnt understand.. you mean the answer A is right?
[07:52] <selfharm> i need to install something to access fat32?
[07:52] <fishy> Blissex: On the Ubuntu wiki?
[07:52] <abhinay> anybody help , install gfxboot   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=208855 ?   i confused from the step  "edit your menu.lst"  here ?
[07:52] <ardchoille> isak_: From what I understand chmod 777 is the same thing as umask 000
[07:53] <isak_> ardchoille: yeah, that's right. but the answer in testking says that the answer A is right and it cant possible be in my opinion.
[07:53] <fishy> urg
[07:53] <] G1> fyrstrtr, I tried following the wiki !grub, I'm following the instructions to restor grub through LiveCD, but one step asks me to "root(hd0,0)" but typing that results in "unrecognized command"
[07:53] <Jowi> selfharm: you do not need to install a thing (but if you are using a custom kernel maybe you forgot to include that filesystem type?)
[07:54] <isak_> ardchoille: i want the new permissions to the files to be -rw-r----- then umask should be 640
[07:54] <fyrestrtr> ] G1: where are you typing that?
[07:54] <isak_> ardchoille: 4 = read, 2 = write and 1 = execute. i don't understand how the testking guy got the wrong answer on all umask questions.
[07:54] <stefg> ] G1: it's root (hd0,0) /not the space)
[07:54] <stefg> ] G1: it's root (hd0,0) /note the space/
[07:54] <] G1> ah xD
[07:55] <] G1> dang, i feel dumb xD
[07:55] <fyrestrtr> we've all been there :)
[07:55] <ardchoille> isak_: http://homepages.cwi.nl/~aeb/linux/man2html/man2/umask.2.html#lbAD
[07:55] <] G1> =] 
[07:55] <] G1> aight, i'll be back, restarting to see if it works
[07:56] <ardchoille> isak_: hmm.. you may be correct there..
[07:56] <pushpop> Newbie question, when I installed Ubuntu it never asked me for a root password.  How to I su over to root?
[07:56] <stefg> !root
[07:56] <fyrestrtr> !sudo
[07:56] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:56] <ardchoille> !root
[07:56] <wasauce> sudo su
[07:56] <abhinay> pushpop, sudo su
[07:56] <pushpop> ok
[07:56] <ardchoille> hehe, bombarded with answers
[07:57] <abhinay> pushpop,  sudo passwd
[07:57] <fyrestrtr> don't .. tell .. people .. how .. to .. set .. a .. root .. password!!
[07:57] <jwtodd> big progress today w/ re to dapper system tuning (glx, resolution). any pointers on how to best tune sound? specifically, bzflag doesn't seem to play and the sound in general (eg frozen bubbles) is much lower by default then expected. i multiplex through a cambridge system that is shared by an osx box and it is *way* louder by default. thx!
[07:57] <ardchoille> I love this channel :)
[07:57] <pushpop> Thank you guys
[07:57] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: hey thanks for your help. ill probably get on later if there are any more problems
[07:57] <stefg> root is _the- faqest of all faqs it seems :-)
[07:57] <abhinay> fyrestrtr, why ?
[07:57] <jwtodd> i have an audigy card
[07:57] <val25> where can I get public key to non-us.debian.org ?
[07:57] <fyrestrtr> abhinay: because its not a supported configuration in ubuntu, and leads to future issues.
[07:58] <thetravellor> hey there....im trying to get a wirelss usb adapter working on the powerpc build of ubuntu
[07:58] <fistandantilus> grr i just restarted and my NAT just blew up i swear, nothing works ;/
[07:58] <fyrestrtr> abhinay: especially with the people new to linux.
[07:58] <ardchoille> abhinay: The root account is disabled for security reasons and there is no reason to enable it, IMHO
[07:58] <Jowi> pushpop: read that RootSudo page that ubotu spat out before typing any commands. It is not recommended to enable the root password if you don't need it.
[07:58] <stefg> !wifi > thetravellor
[07:58] <thetravellor> anybody familiar with such things (kernel modules etc)
[07:58] <Jowi> got to go. c u all
[07:59] <thetravellor> !wifi
[07:59] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:59] <Tonren> Hey guys, I'm trying to get wireless working, and before I even tried to install the drivers, my wireless showed up in iwconfig, but nothing happened if I typed iwlist wlan0 scanning.  Now I've installed drivers, but it's not showing up as wlan0.
[07:59] <Tonren> Before, it showed up as eth1
[07:59] <val25> where can I get public key to non-us.debian.org ?
[07:59] <thetravellor> no, i know the basics of wifi, im talking a hanging module
[08:00] <abhinay> fyrestrtr, by the way how did u slap me ...?
[08:00] <bauerbob> hi
[08:00] <thetravellor> not recognising vendor ids
[08:00] <isak_> ardchoille: ~022 = 0644 = rw-r--r--, wtf? 777 - 022 = 755? i dont understand how they calculate there.. it is from the link you pasted me.
[08:00] <consentm> CCan some one tell me whether I am losing my FAT32 partition i use on windows and Linux from time to time?
[08:00] <selfharm> is there a way to log in as root?
[08:00] <consentm> could dual boot cause a problem?
[08:01] <ricard1>                                            am totally new to Linux. I have installed Ubuntu and was having problems downloading the updates and programs. Somebody recommended me to use (/etc/init.d/networking restart) and everything seemed to work ok. However, now I am trying to download stuff from the Internet. Every time I try to download something (either programs or pictures or documents) the connection will freeze in the middle of it. In ord
[08:01] <bauerbob> can i tell ubuntu do delete my old kernels automatically when an upgrade is installing a new one? because my grub menu is growing and growing.... :(
[08:01] <consentm> I just booted the computer in Windows and now its giving me a "Disk not formatted" error.
[08:01] <hume> I'm trying to get snmp to work in my home LAN, but find no snmp.conf file - should there not be one in Ubuntu?
[08:01] <ardchoille> selfharm: No, you use sudo for command line apps and gksudo for gui apps.
[08:01] <fyrestrtr> hume: sudo apt-get install snmp snmpd
[08:01] <Tonren> bauerbob: You can do it manually by going into Synaptic, Advanced, Restricted Base Modules
[08:02] <x_O> hey...
[08:02] <x_O> Anyone alive in here?
[08:02] <bauerbob> Tonren: thanks so far ...but no automatic setting?
[08:02] <abhinay> how to install GfxBoot ?
[08:02] <hume> fyrestrtr, i just did, and got a snmpd.conf but no snmp.conf file
[08:02] <Tonren> bauerbob: If it automatically removed it, you'd be hosed if the new kernel caused an error.
[08:02] <fyrestrtr> its called something else, its in /etc/snmp/
[08:02] <Tonren> bauerbob: So, it keeps the old kernel in case something goes wrong w/ the new one
[08:02] <consentm> Ideas anyone? pitfalls of using fat32 partitions on a dual-boot setup?
[08:02] <bauerbob> Tonren: there you're right
[08:03] <ardchoille> abhinay: sudo apt-get install GfxBoot
[08:03] <Tonren> Hey, can anyone help me set up wireless?
[08:04] <x_O> I want to tinker with my system...maybe mess with XGL. What can I use to make a system backup? So that I have the option to reboot and repair the system before I boot into it? ect..
[08:04] <MoNkUnClE> if i wanted to pass something to the kernel at boot,where would i put that??
[08:04] <Tonren> My driver appears to have installed correctly (NdisGTK shows it as being installed), but I have no wlan0.  There's only an eth1, but it's not functioning.
[08:04] <shekhar> hello can someone help me change my default browser to firefox2?
[08:04] <bauerbob> Tonren: what's the output of iwconfig?
[08:04] <hume> fyrestrtr, there are just snmpd.conf ans snmptrapd.conf - the last does not look like a snmp.conf....?
[08:04] <stefg> consentm: te only pitfall is that fat32 does not support permissions, so you need special mount-options for linux... you can't have e.g. your home-dir on fat32
[08:04] <selfharm> when i do "mount /dev/hda5" which is my 260 fat32, i get "mount: mount point does not exist" any ideas?
[08:04] <flodine>   show_nickmode = ON
[08:04] <jonc101> is it just me or are the canadian sources SLOW?
[08:04] <jonc101> im getting 20kbps
[08:05] <BHSPitMonkey> kbps or KB/s ?
[08:05] <tocool4u> !poop
[08:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about poop - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:05] <jonc101> KB/s
[08:05] <BHSPitMonkey> heh
[08:05] <Tonren> !pastebin
[08:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:05] <fyrestrtr> hume: hrmm...I don't have it on this machine (set it up on the lan at work) ... don't remember how I set it up :(
[08:05] <FuriousRage> im getting 1MB/Sec from the SE sources
[08:05] <BHSPitMonkey> kbps means something different, jonc101 :)
[08:05] <tocool4u> !shit
[08:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about shit - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:05] <jonc101> i know
[08:05] <gatekeeper> MoNkUnClE, not absolutely sure, but I think in the grub menu list
[08:05] <stefg> selfharm: what does your /etc/fsatb tell about /dev/hda5 ?
[08:05] <stefg> */etc/fstab
[08:05] <jonc101> 20kbps is actually 2.5KB/s BHSPitMonkey ;)
[08:06] <Tonren> bauerbob: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19880
[08:06] <fyrestrtr> tocool4u: stop abusing the bot
[08:06] <BHSPitMonkey> I can divide by eight as well, jonc101 :)
[08:06] <x_O> There any system backup/repair options that can fix an install before you log bak into it?
[08:06] <jonc101> grats
[08:06] <tocool4u> the bot  isn't real
[08:06] <ardchoille> selfharm: You have to tell mount where to mount the device: example mount /dev/device /mount/mountpoint
[08:06] <fyrestrtr> !fishing
[08:06] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[08:06] <MoNkUnClE> gatekeeper i was thinking the smaething but wasn't sure what format or where it should go in that file,it's a call for the proper sectors in my harddrive for vmware
[08:06] <stefg> don't overlook start and parity bits... so divide by ten :-)
[08:06] <wsjunior> which packages do i need to be able to recompile my kernel?
[08:06] <hume> fyrestrtr, but am I right in thinking that even on localhost I need both snmp and snmpd?
[08:06] <selfharm> when i do "mount /dev/hda5" which is my 260gig fat32, i get "mount: mount point does not exist" any ideas?
[08:06] <Waterbou> I am having a problem were ubuntu will not let me log in
[08:06] <[b] urk> apt-get upgrade does the same as that updating-gui in gnome right?
[08:07] <Tonren> selfharm: You need to supply a second argument, which is the folder where hda5 will be mounted
[08:07] <Seveas> wsjunior, sudo apt-get build-dep linux-source-2.6.15
[08:07] <bauerbob> Tonren: alright, the wlan interface is called eth1 and not wlan0
[08:07] <jonc101> Waterbou?
[08:07] <fyrestrtr> hume: no, you only need the server and something to traverse the OIDs, like snmpwalk or cacti or something like that.
[08:07] <enyc> selfharm: if you look in /etc/fstab you will see where it is trying to mount it (mount point)
[08:07] <selfharm> ill try that tonren
[08:07] <stefg> selfharm: you might want to read the question i put to you above
[08:07] <Tonren> bauerbob: Right, which is odd, but I can deal with that.  But howcome sudo ifconfig eth1 up won't work?
[08:07] <Waterbou> Yes jonc101?
[08:07] <jonc101> go on
[08:07] <jonc101> u asked a question
[08:07] <consentm> Hello- can anyone help me with this?
[08:07] <jonc101> give us the details
[08:07] <fistandantilus> i just had NAT running, restarted, get ethernet lights on the machines and on the hub and use static ip's and they cant ping each other, what happened? did my hub just die or something?
[08:07] <consentm> :@
[08:07] <abhinay> ardchoille, i want to make my GRUB like this http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=43166  , how could i ?
[08:07] <Tonren> consentm: never ask to ask, just ask.  :)
[08:07] <hume> fyrestrtr, ok, got the server running, and cacti, but cacti shows no graphs - you got any idea about why no graphs?
[08:07] <Waterbou> WellI just can't get in, I put in my password and usename and it is not working
[08:08] <consentm> Tonren: *sighs* asked once, going twice now. :P
[08:08] <hume> fyrestrtr, i mean, I belive thera is no data sent to cacti
[08:08] <gatekeeper> MoNkUnClE, never installed vmware, so sorry I am no help there :-(
[08:08] <consentm> CCan some one tell me whether I am losing my FAT32 partition i use on windows and Linux from time to time?
[08:08] <jonc101> Waterbou: caps lock?
[08:08] <consentm> I just booted the computer in Windows and now its giving me a "Disk not formatted" error.
[08:08] <Tonren> consentm: i must've missed it.  what's up?  ah, ok
[08:08] <bauerbob> Tonren: because your device is in managed mode - you can't put it up by setting it up like a normal eth interface - this only works in ad-hoc mode
[08:08] <Tonren> i'm not sure what you mean, consentm.  is it disappearing from your filesystem?
[08:08] <MoNkUnClE> gatekeeper it's ok atleast you answered,lol
[08:08] <fyrestrtr> hume: it takes a while for cacti to poll data for the graphs.
[08:08] <Tonren> bauerbob: I've actually never heard of managed/ad-hoc mode.  Is it because I'm running the gui network manager?
[08:08] <Waterbou> jonc101, no I already checked that
[08:08] <consentm> Tonren: could this be because of dual-booting or perhaps a deficiency in fat32 filing system itself?
[08:08] <wsjunior> Seveas: i get a not target when i do make all at /usr/src/linux
[08:08] <gatekeeper> MoNkUnClE, I would have to google for info you are looking for
[08:08] <aaronm23> can someone help me figure out why my computer starts up extremely slowly when using a static ip, but is very quick when using dhcp?
[08:08] <shekhar> hello can someone help me
[08:08] <fyrestrtr> hume: is cacti giving you any snmp errors?
[08:08] <ardchoille> abhinay: I don't know, never used gfxboot
[08:08] <Seveas> wsjunior, that
[08:09] <ricard1> Can anybody help me with my downloading problem? I have been trying to solve it for days.
[08:09] <Tonren> consentm: i don't completely understand your problem yet.  what exactly is going wrong?
[08:09] <consentm> well, fat32 partition is there...i just am not able to use it-
[08:09] <stefg> consentm: that's really sad... maybe you have a question about that?
[08:09] <consentm> windows is asking me to format it-
[08:09] <Seveas> wsjunior, that's because you are taking the wrong route to compiling a kernel
[08:09] <consentm> and i can't mount it on linux either.
[08:09] <Seveas> !kernel > wsjunior
[08:09] <jonc101> Waterbou: u'll have to boot up from a livecd of some kind and enter your CHROOT into your ubuntu partition and change the passwd from there
[08:09] <Tonren> what error happens when you try to mount in linux, consentm?
[08:09] <MoNkUnClE> gatekeeper yeah that's what i have been doing along with the vmware site but they gave me a good fix with limited instructions for linux
[08:09] <ardchoille> ricard1: Please state the problem
[08:09] <bauerbob> Tonren: you need to setup your wlan settings with iwconfig first (like setting the wep key and so) ...uhm...i've never used a gui for that, sorry. my wireless computers run archlinux, not ubuntu ;-)
[08:09] <Seveas> consentm, then it's lost -- maybe some datarecovery tools can recover somethin for you
[08:09] <wsjunior> Seveas: Seveas which is the right route?
[08:09] <hume> fyrestrtr, not when I click on devices and not when I click on graphs and as I understand the logs, not there either....
[08:09] <Tonren> bauerbob: I'm just trying to figure out what you mean by ad-hoc mode vs. managed mode
[08:09] <stefg> consentm: are you on linux now?
[08:09] <Seveas> wsjunior, ubotu just gave you a private message with it
[08:10] <abhinay> Anyone help, i want to make my GRUB look like this http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=43166  , how could i ?
[08:10] <Waterbou> jonc101, how exactly do I do that?
[08:10] <bauerbob> Tonren: ad-hoc means you don't have an AP, managed mode means you do have an AP
[08:10] <Pulshion> Hello, i was woundering what is the best way/how to mount NTFS with writing support in Dapper? Could someone please help me
[08:10] <consentm> Tonren: i can't say now- am trying to recover the drive using a win32 application- but i saw it during the boot stage- some error about invalid fat32 yada yada yada...guess I'll have to wait then. thanks for the help though :)
[08:10] <fyrestrtr> hume: when you click on devices, does it give you on the top left, something in red about SNMP ERROR or does it show you some information about your system like your kernel version, etc.
[08:10] <ricard1> thank you ardchoille, whenever I try to download something the connection will freeze. I have to activate-deactivate it to get Internet working again
[08:10] <selfharm> how do i create a new mountpoint?
[08:10] <Tonren> bauerbob: pardon my network-noobness, but.. AP?  access point?
[08:10] <bauerbob> yes
[08:10] <hume> fyrestrtr, the latter, information about the system
[08:10] <Seveas> bauerbob, no offense but your talking a load of crap -- if you don't know how wireless works in Ubuntu please don't confuse others
[08:10] <Tonren> selfharm: mount /dev/device /media/whatev
[08:10] <fyrestrtr> hume: then its working fine (the snmp part)
[08:11] <gatekeeper> MoNkUnClE, if I looked at it, then it would, at best be an educated guess
[08:11] <stefg> selfharm: you just have to add a directory... but it has to be in the right place
[08:11] <fyrestrtr> hume: fiddle with your data queries, and let it run for a second before you start seeing the graphs.
[08:11] <ardchoille> ricard1: Which app are you using to download and what type of file is it? Does this happen with all downloads or just from a certain server?
[08:11] <jonc101> Waterbou: dl a livecd, like gentoo or ubuntu or whatever, when you're at the CLI u type 'chroot /dev/hda3' ....actually this probably wont work, you still need to know the root password to CHROOT into ur ubuntu installation...bigsoz man
[08:11] <selfharm> tonren: i try mount /dev/hda5 /media/fileshare and it says "mount fileshare does not exist"
[08:11] <hume> fyrestrtr, when I try to look at the graphs, that is, click on the magnifying glass, there is just a white area, where the cursor turns into a cross....but no graph?
[08:11] <fyrestrtr> hume: since most graphs are time-based, it won't draw anything unless it has enough data for the graph (unless you are graphing something like number of active users, etc)
[08:11] <Tonren> Seveas: bauerbob: I might have just gotten it working... I hit "activate" in the GNOME net manager GUI.  Dunno what command line app that's analagous to
[08:11] <hume> fyrestrtr, data queries?
[08:11] <Tonren> selfharm: sudo mkdir /media/fileshare
[08:11] <bauerbob> Seveas: i don't think that ubuntu re-invented wireless lan, so the technical concepts should be the same as in other linuxes - so i don't think that i said any crap
[08:12] <Pulshion> Hello, i was woundering what is the best way/how to mount NTFS with writing support in Dapper? Could someone please help me
[08:12] <Seveas> bauerbob, you did 
[08:12] <MoNkUnClE> gatekeeper http://www.vmware.com/community/thread.jspa?messageID=34687&#34687
[08:12] <bauerbob> Seveas: c'mon, tell me
[08:12] <Seveas> Tonren, I missed the beginning of the conversation -- what type of card is it?
[08:12] <fyrestrtr> hume: yeah, how the system gets its information (you should really ask this in a cacti support channel, as this is no longer a ubuntu issue)
[08:12] <jonc101> Waterbou i believe u can boot up in single user mode and change the passwd that way, dont ask me how tho because i dont know.....google is your friend ;)
[08:12] <Tonren> Seveas: Did you just say he did... shi?  the japanese character?
[08:12] <fyrestrtr> Pulshion: you can try fuse or captive
[08:12] <hume> fyrestrtr, right...is there a cacti channel?
[08:12] <Tonren> Seveas: It's a Broadcom Wireless 802.11g.  I definitely have the right driver, and it's DEFINITELY installed properly
[08:12] <Waterbou> jonc101, well I can try it with my gnoppix LiveCD, what is the worse that could happen
[08:12] <MoNkUnClE> gatekeeper i get the error 17 from Grub
[08:12] <ricard1> I am using Firefox. It happens with almost all downloads. It seems that it depend on the size, just very small ones can be downloaded. However I can do stuff like watching a video in Google Video of 45 minutes. I am really confused.
[08:13] <Tonren> Seveas: I might actually have it working righ tnow; for once, a GUI app might work
[08:13] <ardchoille> selfharm: The "/media/fileshare" (mount point) must exist before you try mounting to it
[08:13] <baconbacon> !ntfs > Pulshion
[08:13] <Seveas> Tonren, firmware installed too?
[08:13] <jonc101> Waterbou: nothing, there is no worse when you can't get into your system ;)
[08:13] <fyrestrtr> hume: #cacti :)
[08:13] <gatekeeper> MoNkUnClE, ok having a look, but don't hold your breath :-)
[08:13] <stefg> !ntfs > selfharm
[08:13] <Tonren> Seveas: Sorry, I actually don't know what you mean by that.
[08:13] <Seveas> Tonren, then you haven't installed it completely 
[08:13] <hume> fyrestrtr, thanks a lot...I'll go there
[08:13] <bauerbob> Seveas: no offense - i _really_ like to know what was wrong, because i like ubuntu and maybe need to setup a wireless lan there in the near future, so please tell me
[08:13] <Tonren> Seveas: How do I install the firmware?  I've been following the howto on wiki.ubuntu.com
[08:13] <Pulshion> baconbacon -- dont u lose/damage data with fuse?
[08:13] <Mr_Magic> abhinay: the description is on the page you pasted, try this first
[08:14] <MoNkUnClE> gatekeeper lol,np i won't
[08:14] <Seveas> Tonren, the broadcom card either requires you to install firmware of to disable bcm43xx and use ndiswrapper
[08:14] <Seveas> Tonren, which route did you take? ndiswrapper or bcm43xx?
[08:14] <Bassy> I am thinking about installing ubunto server, and wandering (to get a gui) if i put in the command "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" can i subsitute "xubunto" to get the x desktop (and is this just the lite desktop, no apps?)?
[08:14] <Tonren> Seveas: But aren't we using ndiswrapper to INSTALL bcm43xx?
[08:14] <jonc101> !root
[08:14] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:14] <Seveas> Tonren, no
[08:14] <Pulshion> fyrestrtr-- which pne is better?
[08:14] <jonc101> !reset root
[08:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about reset root - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:14] <fyrestrtr> Pulshion: ??
[08:14] <Tonren> Seveas: I used ndiswrapper
[08:15] <jonc101> im quite happy i got my ubuntu installation running quite nicely.  all i had to do was follow a guide on howtoforge.
[08:15] <fyrestrtr> Bassy: yeah you can do that. You can install whichever you like.
[08:15] <Seveas> Tonren, and the card is still eth1 you say? then bcm43xx is pestering you
[08:15] <Tonren> Seveas: But there is a file in the archive I downloaded called bcm43xx.cat.  However, I used ndiswrapper to install the file bcmwl5.inf.
[08:15] <fyrestrtr> Bassy: but a server really doesn't need a gui if you ask me, but to each his own :)
[08:15] <Tonren> Seveas: I see... so hwo do I disable bcm43xx?  What IS bcm43xx, exactly?
[08:15] <Pulshion> fyrestrtr -- fuse or captive? Dont u lose/damage data though
[08:15] <ardchoille> Bassy: Yes, "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" will get you the xfce desktop, it's a nice and light desktop :)
[08:15] <abhinay> Mr_Magic, Ya i did it , no change in GRUB :(
[08:15] <stefg> Bassy: you've got the concept right, but the metapackages will install the whole shebang, not only the DE's
[08:15] <Seveas> Tonren, echo "blacklist bcm43xx" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/no_broadcom
[08:15] <Tonren> Bassy: Xfce is great.
[08:15] <baconbacon> Pulshion: you can still use captive ntfs or fuse
[08:15] <Seveas> Tonren, and reboot
[08:15] <fyrestrtr> Pulshion: its still experimental, I heard there was a new module out, but I don't think its available in ubuntu yet.
[08:15] <Tonren> Seveas: Do you mind explaining what that does, exactly?
[08:16] <Seveas> Tonren, bcm43xx is a crippled native linux driver which requires you to manually install firmware
[08:16] <Tonren> Seveas: (i'm familiar with the concept of piping, etc. so you can be technical)
[08:16] <Bassy> it's just i'm a newbee, and don't want to do everything command line, i'll get webmin, but what if i need a browser, etc.?
[08:16] <Seveas> that command will blacklist the bcm43xx driver (tee means add to file)
[08:16] <Tonren> Seveas: Ahh, I understand, now
[08:16] <ardchoille> !webmin > Bassy
[08:16] <Bassy> and as far as i understand, i need a desktop to run webmin?
[08:17] <Seveas> Tonren, after blacklisting it you'll need to reboot and ndiswrapper should take over
[08:17] <ardchoille> !webmin
[08:17] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[08:17] <baconbacon> Pulshion: but ntfs write support is still experimental anyway. Your best bet for stability imvho would be captive
[08:17] <Tonren> Seveas: I'll try that now, thanks
[08:17] <jahshua> hey peeps can anyone please help me out with some of the power saving features in Ubuntu Dapper? im trying to make my laptop battery last longer ...
[08:17] <Pulshion> fyrestrtr -- If its experemental then, is there something that is stable and i wont lose my data, cant there be something easier then that, maybe like mount it under root or something
[08:17] <jahshua> someone mentioned laptop mode to me?
[08:18] <stefg> !laptop
[08:18] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[08:18] <gatekeeper> MoNkUnClE, says 'should be passed to your kernel and reboot' so my first hunch I think was incorrect, let me look some more sure this error 17 I have heard people ask about before, hang on...
[08:18] <Bassy> maybe i should just install the xbuntu desktop and get all the server stuff as addons, but i hear it's much easier to setup with lamp
[08:18] <MoNkUnClE> gatekeeper your the man,thanks
[08:18] <jahshua> thanks stefg.
[08:18] <dkakon> hello
[08:18] <Pulshion> baconbacon -- am i going to lose data?
[08:19] <Seveas> bauerbob, to answer your question (sorry for the delay, wanted to help tonren first): you don't need iwconfig in ubuntu with network-manager. network-manager does everything in the gui, including wep/wpa
[08:19] <baconbacon> Pulshion, it's experimental, nothing is guaranteed
[08:19] <Pulshion> baconbacon -- great, why is it experemental? did they like just come out with ntfs write support and didnt have it before?
[08:21] <tocool4u> !sysinfo
[08:21] <ubotu> I know nothing about sysinfo - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:21] <BHSPitMonkey> !info sysinfo
[08:21] <ubotu> sysinfo: Simple GTK program that shows some UNIX/Linux system information. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.6.1-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 93 kB, installed size 508 kB
[08:21] <baconbacon> Pulshion: captive was a call wrapper for the ntfs.sys windows driver, which internals are unclear. Native write support is even more unclear because of the closed nature of the ntfs
[08:21] <Adam_G> hi, I'm wondering where I can find the config files for gnome-panel?
[08:22] <Seveas> Adam_G, those are in gconf
[08:22] <Seveas> try the gconf-editor
[08:22] <aaronm23> can someone help me figure out why my computer starts up extremely slowly when using a static ip, but is very quick when using dhcp?
[08:22] <Adam_G> thanks
[08:22] <Pulshion> baconbacon -- Your saying i should go with captive rather than fuse?
[08:22] <flodine> anyone here using irssi to connect
[08:22] <isak_> ardchoille: now i did find my answer:) a directory has the default permissions of 777 and files 666 :)
[08:23] <Flannel> flodine: yep
[08:23] <fyrestrtr> flodine: sure
[08:23] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: ok. i got all those java packages installed and everything updated
[08:23] <selfharm> can i mount a share to make it look like a drive?
[08:23] <Mr_Magic> aaronm23: can you pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces?
[08:23] <flodine> how do i show nicks on right side of irss
[08:24] <eitch0000> which program would be best to convert m4b files to mp3 or anything other like ogg?
[08:24] <BHSPitMonkey> selfharm, yeah. just mount it somewhere.
[08:24] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: you said to edit a startx file and put the java location in it?
[08:24] <flodine> Flannel you know how to show irssi room nicksnames on right side
[08:24] <bauerbob> Seveas: alright, since i don't have a wireless card in my ubuntu machine the network manager does not show me the wireless settings stuff - but thanks for the info
[08:25] <Bassy> what are people using instead of webmin these days?
[08:25] <selfharm> BHSPitMOnkey, can i make the share show up under "Computer"
[08:25] <Seveas> Bassy, their brains ;)
[08:25] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: cool, now edit the startx script, and somewhere it will say JAVA_HOME (if it doesn't, just type export JAVA_HOME=/path/to/your/java/jdk/)
[08:25] <Bassy> lol...
[08:25] <ardchoille> Bassy: a terminal
[08:25] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: check the tomcat docs for more info on that
[08:26] <baconbacon> Pulshion: many distributions / how-tos moved to fuse, check http://linux-ntfs.org/ and !fuse
[08:26] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: where is the startx script found?
[08:26] <Bassy> k, sorry for the stupid guestions guys, i'm a total newbee, just trying to learn about linux
[08:26] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: somewhere on your system, wherever you installed tomcat.
[08:26] <BHSPitMonkey> I
[08:26] <Mr_Magic> eitch0000: look here http://www.thugsatbay.com/tab/?q=tab-video-converter-encoder
[08:27] <ardchoille> Bassy: It is my opinion that a new user can greatly benefit from learning how to do things from the command line.
[08:27] <BHSPitMonkey> I'm not sure what the criteria is for showing up under "Computer". Anybody know?
[08:27] <Pulshion> baconbacon -- the reason im mounting ntfs partition with write support is because i got there tons of data. Which i would not like to lose...ill try fuse right now
[08:27] <selfharm> is there some way to mount a share and have it show up under "Computer" alongside cdrom and linux ext3 drive?
[08:27] <gnomefreak> Bassy: only for breezy and before support for webmin stop as of dapper
[08:27] <eitch0000> Mr_Magic: thx
[08:27] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: ok im not finding startx
[08:28] <benjib> Hi, I have a wierd network problem with Ubuntu - I can access web pages via their IP address, but not hostnames. However I can ping the hostnames fine. My internet conn is ok (works with windows). Can anyone help?
[08:28] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: you *did* install tomcat right?
[08:28] <baconbacon> Pulshion, theres a risk. If you can't afford losing data you really should enable writing on ntfs at the time
[08:28] <BHSPitMonkey> Pulshion, that's funny, I want to protect my ntfs data, and that's why I DON'T mount it -rw
[08:28] <pascon> ardchoille, those days when user must learn how to use command lines past away :)
[08:28] <aaronm23> Mr_Magic: http://pastebin.ca/119180
[08:28] <SogniX> can anyone help with NFS?
[08:28] <baconbacon> Pulshion: you really SHOULDN'T
[08:28] <BHSPitMonkey> baconbacon, :P
[08:29] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: i think so. the 5.5 version was in a tar.gz file and i just manually moved everything to usr/share/tomcat5
[08:29] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: is that right?
[08:29] <snooplsm> sudo apt-get install ????? for netbeans
[08:30] <ardchoille> !info netbeans
[08:30] <ubotu> Package netbeans does not exist in dapper
[08:30] <snooplsm> oh snap
[08:30] <chainlynx> hey does anyone here work with VSFTPD?
[08:30] <ardchoille> snooplsm: It's not in the repos
[08:30] <Pulshion> BHSPitMonkey -- Well i have it mounted as just -r so its good, but i would like to get rid of some stuff and also not lose stuff i want to keep. I dont want to install windows just for that, i just finished with windows ones and for all till vista comes out with like a sp2 or something lol, try dealing with fucking people from india
[08:30] <snooplsm> no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:31] <ardchoille> !language > Pulshion
[08:31] <Pulshion> baconbacon -- Yea i guess i shouldnt, how much is the risk?
[08:31] <Stormx2> Uhg... sound juicer is crashing when I try to rip to FLAC. brilliant.
[08:31] <Pulshion> ardchoille -- sorry this is how much i love windows
[08:32] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: it doesn't matter, but you need to find the /bin directory and the startx script should be there.
[08:32] <Stormx2> Actually its crashing on every frickin' pipeline.
[08:32] <aaronm23> can someone help me figure out why my computer starts up extremely slowly when using a static ip, but is very quick when using dhcp?
[08:32] <baconbacon> Pulshion: As much as i'd like to tell you it works, there is a risk, my ntfs was corrupted once
[08:32] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: ok i searched for it. its in /usr/bin
[08:32] <selfharm> i am trying to access samaba share, it prompting for username & password. know where I can configure this?
[08:32] <SogniX> I'm running NFS on my Ubuntu box, and trying to mount it from OS X with this command : sudo mount_nfs -P 192.168.15.5:/media/Storage120 /Volumes/Media/  --- it mounts, but I can't write to it... any ideas? :(
[08:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Writing to NTFS is NOT a good idea
[08:33] <gatekeeper> MoNkUnClE, which version of vmware are you using?
[08:33] <Stormx2> Oh it works on my other drive... XD
[08:33] <wsjunior> Seveas: that wasnt what i need.. i just modified some things in the kernel and now i want to recompile it..
[08:33] <wermut> Where does nautilus store the settings (like a specifice icon) for folders?
[08:33] <fistandantilus> i just had NAT running, restarted, get ethernet lights on the machines and on the hub and use static ip's and they cant ping each other, what happened? did my hub just die or something?
[08:33] <fyrestrtr> SogniX: give your macosx ip write access in your /etc/exports file
[08:33] <wsjunior> Seveas: why i cant do make && make modules && make modules_install?
[08:33] <fyrestrtr> SogniX: then restart the nfs server
[08:34] <SogniX> hmm
[08:34] <Pulshion> baconbacon -- yea, then i wont do it, my friend was using gentoo i think and had his drive mounted fine and lost nothing, but he said he mounted with root or something...i have to ask him that
[08:34] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: did you remove the tomcat that you had installed with apt-get/synaptic ?
[08:34] <selfharm> !samaba > selfharm
[08:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about samaba  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:34] <gatekeeper> !grub
[08:34] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:34] <pushpop> can you use RDP on a windows workstation to connect to a Ubuntu w/s?
[08:34] <MoNkUnClE> gatekeeper version 1.0.0 build-28343
[08:35] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: yeah. i removed 5.0 with synaptic. do i need to reinstall it
[08:35] <fyrestrtr> pushpop: no, that works only one way :)
[08:35] <pushpop> =/
[08:35] <pushpop> ok
[08:35] <pushpop> haha
[08:35] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: you need to purge the files, because the one in /usr/bin is the one from synaptic.
[08:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Pulshion:  He mounted an NTFS drive as root?
[08:35] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: cause it will conflict with the one you have downloaded.
[08:35] <SogniX> fyrestrtr, /etc/exports has this line : /media/Storage120 192.168.15.0/255.255.255.0(rw)
[08:35] <gatekeeper> MoNkUnClE, I was expecting you to say 4.something http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1196.html
[08:35] <MoNkUnClE> gatekeeper did u see my PM ?
[08:36] <baconbacon> someone who asked about wifi supported cards : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[08:36] <MoNkUnClE> gatekeeper no it's the free on for linux it's the server version
[08:36] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: ok. how am i going to get a new one? ther was no startx file in the tar.gz
[08:36] <gatekeeper> MoNkUnClE, yep, wasn't sure if you got my reply
[08:36] <gatekeeper> MoNkUnClE, ok
[08:36] <wermut> Where does nautilus store its direcotry settings (like a specifice icon, emblem etc.)?
[08:37] <eternalswd> nautilus has stopped loading thumbnails for new video files and is using 90% of my cpu, though it does give way to other processes.  What can I try to fix this?
[08:37] <Pulshion> Jack_Sparrow -- idk, hold on ill ask him, he just got online
[08:37] <Jack_Sparrow> wermut: WOuld that not be in the ./themes section
[08:37] <aaronm23> can someone help me figure out why my computer starts up extremely slowly when using a static ip, but is very quick when using dhcp?
[08:38] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: you can probably find it at the tomcat website
[08:38] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: you should take all this google -- since its no longer a ubuntu issue :)
[08:38] <gatekeeper> MoNkUnClE, look here there is a section Setting Kernel Parameters: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:38] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: ok so im going to delete the startx file in /usr/bin and get the new one from the tomcat website?
[08:38] <Linuturk> what happened to the advanced screensaver controls from Breezy?
[08:38] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: yeah but google is all keywords. its nice to talk to a person
[08:38] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: nooo... sudo apt-get install tomcat5 -- then sudo apt-get remove --purge tomcat5
[08:39] <wermut> Jack_Sparrow: I mean where is it recorded that a specific directory has specific icons, emblems etc.
[08:39] <wsjunior> what do i need to recompile my kernel? i did some modifications and now i try to do make all in /usr/src/linux and i get a no target to process init/main.o error..
[08:39] <Enselic> Has anyone here compiled a kernel *once*?
[08:39] <MoNkUnClE> gatekeeper thx
[08:39] <enyc> Enselic: me ;-
[08:39] <enyc> ;-)
[08:39] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: that'll remove it the "right" way :)
[08:39] <Enselic> was it hard?
[08:39] <enyc> Enselic: not once you know what you are doing
[08:39] <gatekeeper> MoNkUnClE, hope it helps good luck :-)
[08:39] <enyc> Enselic: but you shouldnt need to do so on ubuntu, in short
[08:39] <fyrestrtr> Enselic: its not that difficult, if you know what you are doing (and you know why you are compiling, not just to see if you can do it)
[08:39] <eigenlambda> so i wrote this python script, right, that takes the list of installed packages, and traces their dependecies... now im trying to use 'dot' to make a graph...
[08:39] <Enselic> enyc: did you recompile it for pure fun?
[08:39] <eigenlambda> and its taking *for ever*
[08:40] <wermut> Enselic: Why do you want to compile a kernel?
[08:40] <MoNkUnClE> gatekeeper yeah i think it answers where or how to add the command on boot,thx again....
[08:40] <Stormx2> Guys, how can I rip to flac from command line which will show all/any errors encounted in the ripping?
[08:40] <enyc> Enselic: Ive used slackware 7.0 where that was the way to update the kerwel
[08:40] <Enselic> wermut: never done it and Im keen on it
[08:40] <programcod1> Can  someone help me I installed win32 codec earlier, and now any video I play is split in half and is doubled?
[08:40] <enyc> Enselic: ive used gentoo where you NORMALLY build your own kernel
[08:40] <Enselic> enyc: oh :)
[08:40] <gatekeeper> MoNkUnClE, yw :-) like I said hope it works
[08:40] <enyc> Enselic: ive used debian and built my own for some reason
[08:40] <Enselic> enyc: Then you're an experience linux user?
[08:40] <enyc> Enselic: aah yes ;-)
[08:41] <chell> hello
[08:41] <programcod1> Can  someone help me I installed win32 codec earlier, and now any video I play is split in half and is doubled?
[08:41] <wermut> Enselic: There are some good tutorials on the net which you can follow step by step; but usually it is not worth the effort; i.e. it is only adviceful if you have problems getting something to work.
[08:41] <Enselic> It must be fun to be good at linux, eh?
[08:41] <Ademan> everytime i update through the automatic updates, my /boot/grub/menu.lst gets overridden and i lose my windows boot option
[08:41] <enyc> Enselic: not sure ;-)
[08:41] <Enselic> wermut: yeah I've read one, and it didn't seem overly complex
[08:41] <wsjunior> what do i need to recompile my kernel? i did some modifications and now i try to do make all in /usr/src/linux and i get a no target to process init/main.o error..
[08:41] <programcod1> Can  someone help me I installed win32 codec earlier, and now any video I play is split in half and is doubled?
[08:41] <Seveas> Ademan, then READ the file before putting your sections where they don't belong
[08:41] <Jack_Sparrow> !repeat > programcod1
[08:41] <ardchoille> !repeat
[08:41] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:42] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: i did sudo apt-get install tomcat5 and it says i need jdk 1.3 or higher to start
[08:42] <chell> If I install totem-xine to playback CSS encrypted DVDs do I loose totem-gstreamers functionality?
[08:42] <gatekeeper> MoNkUnClE, if you where dual booting I would say fixmbr, that's where I remember it from lol
[08:42] <enyc> Enselic: it takes experience to get kernel choices right from-scratch
[08:42] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: but i guess that doesnt matter cuz im purging it now
[08:42] <Stormx2> Guys, how can I rip to flac from command line which will show all/any errors encounted in the ripping?
[08:42] <enyc> Enselic: best to base on the config- file there already usually
[08:42] <Enselic> enyc: You mean when you .configure? Like, answering all the customization questions?
[08:42] <eternalswd> chell, yes
[08:42] <enyc> Enselic: ?did you have some reason to build your own kernel?
[08:42] <enyc> Enselic: yes....  .config in linux src iirc
[08:42] <wsjunior> could anybody help me? i just modified my kernel and now i need to recompile it. how do i do that?
[08:42] <chell> Is there not way I can play encrypted DVDs with totem-gstreamer?
[08:43] <jwtodd> i cant' get tuxracer sounds to play, but systems sounds work. i've tweaked alsamixer, etc. ideas?
[08:43] <eternalswd> chell, why not use mplayer?
[08:43] <enyc> chell: apparently not... use VLC or totem-xine instead ;-)
[08:43] <programcod1> !repeat wsjunior
[08:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about repeat wsjunior - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:43] <Enselic> enyc: Nah, I don't need to, I just want to have done it
[08:43] <Jack_Sparrow> !restricted
[08:43] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:43] <MoNkUnClE> gatekeeper i am dualbooting,but trying to use the existing winxp on the same drive as a raw entry in vmware....
[08:43] <programcod1> !repeat > wsjunior
[08:43] <chell> but I've already got all the gstreamer packages installed
[08:43] <enyc> Enselic: get on with it then ;-)
[08:43] <jwtodd> frozenbubble plays fine. bzflag doesn't.
[08:43] <Enselic> enyc: for the sake of eliteness ;)
[08:43] <enyc> chell: so use VLC or something else ;-)
[08:43] <enyc> Enselic: takes experienco
[08:43] <programcod1> Could someone help me with my video problem?
[08:43] <chell> But I have that one-app-per-task philosophy
[08:44] <qwerty2k> mplayer >
[08:44] <qwerty2k> *
[08:44] <eternalswd> chell, with mplayer you don't need to mess with totem-gstreamer
[08:44] <Enselic> enyc: Is there any risk that I will successfully compile a kernel, that can screw up the computer?
[08:44] <enyc> Enselic: I remember building them on my 486... I would start the compile going and goto bed ;-)
[08:44] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: ok i just purged tomcat5. now what?
[08:44] <Enselic> enyc: :D
[08:44] <enyc> Enselic: small but possible....
[08:44] <qwerty2k> Enselic, if you mess it up you can boot into a diff kernel to fix things
[08:44] <programcod1> See someone in here told me to install win32 codecs, I did that and now my video is messed up, please someone help me! :O
[08:44] <enyc> Enselic: much more likely it wont work right q-)
[08:44] <chell> If I use totem-xine instead of totem-gstreamer do I get exactly the same functionality (except for that DVD thingy)
[08:44] <Jack_Sparrow> programcod1: Did you install the right driver for your card or just code32cs
[08:44] <Enselic> qwerty2k: With manual booting?
[08:44] <wermut> Does anybody know where nautilus stores the directory-specific settings like icon, emblem etc. ?
[08:44] <programcod1> I have latest driver for my card, yes sparrow
[08:44] <snooplsm> should I have any problem installing the netbeans bin?
[08:44] <enyc> chell: not entirely sure... but you can easily go back ;-)
[08:44] <mnelson_> hey guys
[08:45] <snooplsm> do I have to do fakeroot or whatnot?
[08:45] <mnelson_> how do I add the universe repository?
[08:45] <eigenlambda> chell: you need totem-gstreamer, gstreamer-plugins-bad-multiverse, and the illegal css libraries
[08:45] <mnelson_> can't find it
[08:45] <linuxbob> hi guys
[08:45] <eternalswd> chell: you should, what you can do is keep all of the gstreamer codecs installed and switch back if not
[08:45] <Jack_Sparrow> programcod1: Begging every 60 seconds will NOT help you get an answer..
[08:45] <ardchoille> !universe
[08:45] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:45] <qwerty2k> Enselic, well if you compile a new kernel, add a grub menu entry, if it does work trying to boot into it/properly then you can easily restart and select a previous kernel to boot into
[08:45] <enyc> chell: you can just use xine or vlc to play dvd...
[08:45] <linuxbob> ubuntu anyone
[08:45] <eigenlambda> as well, if you want to use totem-gstreamer, you probably also want pitfdll to use the illegal win32 codecs
[08:45] <Enselic> qwerty2k: Hey that's smart
[08:45] <Jack_Sparrow> programcod1: Where did you get it?
[08:45] <Pulshion> Jack_Sparrow -- he says that he just mounts it in terminal and has writing permissions
[08:45] <Jack_Sparrow> programcod1: what card is it?
[08:45] <chell> eigenlambda, so if I have those "illegal" libraries I can play encrypted DVDs with totem-gstreamer?
[08:46] <mnelson_> I type !universe?
[08:46] <programcod1> Jack_Sparrow: My video was working fine until I installed that win32codec from Restricted Formats Ubuntu. Nvidia Geforce 2 MMX
[08:46] <qwerty2k> chell, use Automatix to install mplayer, w32codecs and the dvd playback cdoecs etc
[08:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Pulshion: HE is on borrowed time... trust us..
[08:46] <ardchoille> !universe > mnelson_
[08:46] <enyc> chell: not sure... iirc totem-gstreamer couldnt do encrypted DVDs... but this may have changed
[08:46] <eigenlambda> ya
[08:46] <eigenlambda> you need the same illegal css libraries for xine and mplayer and vlc
[08:46] <moonunit> can somebody help me install new ATI drivers?
[08:46] <enyc> chell: you can just use VLC to play DVD instead ;-)
[08:46] <qwerty2k> only illegal in some countires though ;)
[08:47] <odat> anyone having problems with gnomebaker
[08:47] <chell> They might not be illegal where I live
[08:47] <chell> I'm not from the US...
[08:47] <Seveas> !ati > moonlite
[08:47] <enyc> !RestrictedFormats > chell
[08:47] <Jack_Sparrow> programcod1: if you go to term and type glxgears -printfps what do you get?
[08:47] <odat> i keep getting this error cdrecord: Notice: Most recorders cannot write CD's >= 90 minutes.
[08:47] <odat> cdrecord: Notice: Use -ignsize option to allow >= 90 minutes.
[08:47] <odat> cdrecord: Notice: Use -overburn option to write more than the official disk capacity.
[08:47] <odat> cdrecord: Notice: Most CD-writers do overburning only on SAO or RAW mode.
[08:47] <odat> my stuff isn't over 90 its actually at 74
[08:47] <mnelson_> how do I add the universe repository?
[08:47] <moonunit> !ati > moonunit
[08:47] <Raskall> what is the correct way to not start X.org on boot?
[08:47] <enyc> odat: look at the size of the iso file....
[08:48] <Seveas> Raskall, sudu update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[08:48] <programcod1> Jack_Sparrow: printfps unknown parameters, but it brings up these spinning gears
[08:48] <wermut> Anybody using Google Earth has experienced problems with the display in the map window?
[08:48] <chell> I think I'm gonna try it now
[08:48] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: so after purging whats next?
[08:48] <Pulshion> !ati > Pulshion
[08:48] <snooplsm> !netbeans
[08:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about netbeans - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:48] <ardchoille> !universe > mnelson_
[08:49] <ardchoille> mnelson_: Read the msg ubotu sent you
[08:49] <gnomefreak> snooplsm: ubuntu doesnt have netbeans in it
[08:49] <mnelson_> I didn't get one :/
[08:49] <Jack_Sparrow> programcod1: glxgears --printfps
[08:49] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: sudo updatedb -- then, sudo find / -name startx
[08:49] <jwtod1> any ideas why bzflag and penguin racer won't play sounds yet they system sounds work fine?
[08:49] <chell> okay, totem-gstreamer can't play encrypted dvds. will totem-xine support menus?
[08:49] <jwtod1> bzflag also doesn't play sounds
[08:49] <maleficus> Anyone know why I can't get my resolution past 1024x768? (just installed, obviously new to linux)
[08:49] <programcod1> Jack_Sparrow: okay it just brought up some spinning gears
[08:49] <Raskall> Seveas: thanx. :)
[08:49] <jwtod1> ?sdl? by chance?
[08:50] <Jack_Sparrow> programcod1: look at the term and tell us the fps
[08:50] <programcod1> 3337 frames in 5.1 seconds = 657.180 FPS
[08:50] <programcod1> 3192 frames in 5.0 seconds = 635.350 FPS
[08:50] <programcod1> 3192 frames in 5.1 seconds = 622.684 FPS
[08:50] <programcod1> 3306 frames in 5.1 seconds = 652.632 FPS
[08:50] <programcod1> 3420 frames in 5.2 seconds = 656.167 FPS
[08:50] <ardchoille> !fixres > maleficus
[08:50] <gnomefreak> programcod1: stop that please
[08:50] <Seveas> he stopped
[08:50] <maleficus> !fixres
[08:50] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:50] <gnomefreak> i see ;)
[08:50] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: i did updatedb and it didnt say anything. so now im finding startx
[08:50] <ardchoille> !fixres > ardchoille
[08:51] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: yeah it shouldn't ... but now you should see one startx
[08:51] <programcod1> Jack_Sparrow I am back
[08:51] <maleficus> sory ardchoille Im not used to this irc client either or anything didn't see it
[08:51] <chell> I'm downloading gxine right now
[08:51] <chell> which is supposed to work fine according to the wiki
[08:51] <ardchoille> maleficus: :)
[08:51] <Pulshion> !fixres > Pulshion
[08:51] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: ok its in /usr/bin/startx im editing it now
[08:51] <chell> ah it works
[08:51] <chell> just fine
[08:51] <programcod1> Jack_Sparrow: did you get my fps?
[08:51] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: sorry, not startx!!
[08:51] <chell> thank you for your help
[08:52] <chell> it is very appreciated indeed
[08:52] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: you need startup.sh
[08:52] <Linuturk> 102.0 F
[08:52] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: ok. do i edit it or run it
[08:52] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: wrong file
[08:52] <fistandantilus> i just had NAT running, restarted, get ethernet lights on the machines and on the hub and use static ip's and they cant ping each other, what happened? ive tried two hubs, even have both firewalls turned off to check quick and it didnt help .. says destination host is unreachable?
[08:52] <Jack_Sparrow> programcod1: yea, not sure your driver is working right.. my 6600 nvidia gets 6000+
[08:52] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: don't ... touch ... it.
[08:52] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: find startup.sh
[08:52] <tocool4u> hey,I'm having a problem after changing my hostname  I keep getting a gethostbyname error
[08:52] <qwerty2k> programcod1, does glxinfo say direct rendering?
[08:52] <Pulshion> !fixres > maleficus
[08:52] <linuxbob> startup.sh after rebot
[08:53] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: theres nothing
[08:53] <maleficus> lil slow there Pulshion
[08:53] <neutrinomass> tocool4u: Can you please pastebin /etc/hosts ?
[08:53] <fyrestrtr> fistandantilus: check your default gateway
[08:53] <Seveas> tocool4u, you need to edit /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts
[08:53] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: okay, now /usr/share/tomcat/bin -- what's in there?
[08:53] <programcod1> Jack_Sparrow: Under that direct rendering is a NO
[08:53] <Pulshion> maleficus -- haha sorry, did you get it though?
[08:53] <jwtod1> ahhhh, unloaded debian sdl all and loaded debian sdl alsa and now tuxracer plays sounds :)
[08:53] <qwerty2k> programcod1, then your 3d drivers arent installed/working properly
[08:53] <tocool4u> 127.0.0.1 localhost Ubuntu
[08:53] <tocool4u> 127.0.1.1 Ubuntu
[08:53] <tocool4u> # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
[08:53] <tocool4u> ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
[08:53] <tocool4u> fe00::0 ip6-localnet
[08:53] <tocool4u> ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
[08:53] <tocool4u> ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
[08:53] <maleficus> Yea Im looking at it now, trying to figure out how much memory to put in using the first fix :D
[08:53] <tocool4u> ff02::2 ip6-allrouters
[08:53] <fyrestrtr> wth
[08:53] <fistandantilus> fyrestrtr: its set to the ip of the machine with internet
[08:53] <gnomefreak> tocool4u: dont paste
[08:53] <maleficus> Thanks though
[08:53] <chell> why don't they make the change from totem to gxine?
[08:54] <qwerty2k> please dont copy and paste
[08:54] <programcod1> Um. my drivers are installed and working right
[08:54] <jwtod1> as does bzflag! golden!
[08:54] <fyrestrtr> fistandantilus: type tracepath [your router ip] 
[08:54] <qwerty2k> programcod1, if it says direct rendering no then they cant be
[08:54] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: theres files in there but no startup.sh
[08:54] <Jack_Sparrow> programcod1: no they are not
[08:54] <dayz_> can someone help me with this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=230819
[08:54] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: you downloaded the source, or the pre-compiled stuff?
[08:54] <qwerty2k> programcod1, do you have nvidia or ati?
[08:54] <torbjornN> anyone got DBDesigner 4 to work on ubuntu?
[08:54] <programcod1> Jack_Sparrow: NVIDIA
[08:54] <qwerty2k> !nvidia
[08:54] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:54] <Mr_Magic> fistandantilus: you can your default gateway and google?
[08:54] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: what do you mean? through synaptic or tar.gz
[08:55] <gnomefreak> !dri > programcod1
[08:55] <fyrestrtr> the tar.gz
[08:55] <Jack_Sparrow> programcod1: nvidia 6600 here... I get 10x the fps
[08:55] <qwerty2k> programcod1, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:55] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: what are the contents of /usr/share/tomcat ?
[08:56] <chell> Can I safely remove totem?
[08:56] <gnomefreak> chell: yes
[08:56] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: in  usr/share/tomcat5 ther is bin, common,conf, server, shared, temp, webapps, and some random notes
[08:56] <qwerty2k> programcod1, you arent running xgl are you?
[08:56] <chell> but I think it's better to leave all the gstreamer codecs on my sys for rythmbox isn't it?
[08:56] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: what's in bin?
[08:56] <gnomefreak> chell: thats fine the gstreamer is not just for totem
[08:56] <chell> I love gxine
[08:57] <chell> I think it should become the new default video player in edgy
[08:57] <Tonren> Hey Seveas, bcmxxx isn't attacking me anymore, but now I don't have wlan0, either.  ndiswrapper -l still reports the driver as being successfully installe.d
[08:57] <Niall> hey guy recently changed my graphics settings (trying to get a res above 640x480 hopefully 1024x768) the new settings dont work at all and i cant get x to display again is there a way to restore the original bad 640x480 driver so i can try fixing it in graphical environment
[08:57] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: a lot of stuff but no startup.sh there is a startup.bat and startup.exe but no .sh
[08:57] <fistandantilus> grr .. i love restarting and having half my network die for no reason
[08:57] <qwerty2k> Niall, what is the X error message?
[08:57] <Tonren> Niall: You can probably edit your X config file
[08:57] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: is there a file highlighted in green called just startup ?
[08:57] <gnomefreak> IRC_: when did linux start using .exe.a dn .bat files?
[08:58] <chell> Is there anything like automatix for XGL?
[08:58] <gnomefreak> chell: no
[08:58] <qwerty2k> chell, yes
 i will have to reboot to get the message agian, ill be back
[08:58] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: there is no file just named startup
[08:58] <chell> I'm slightly confused
[08:58] <chell> yes or no?
[08:58] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: pastebin the contents of that file
[08:58] <qwerty2k> chell, Automatix bleeder
[08:58] <gnomefreak> qwerty2k: automatix nor easyubuntu install xgl
[08:58] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: btw im in sudo nautilus
[08:58] <gizmo_the_great1> Hi. I realise Linux is a true multi-user OS (unlike Windows) so I had assumed the following would be easy, but I'm struggling. Basically, I want to prevent my 17 Yo sister-in-law from being able to do anything other than access her own home folder, launch FF and launch aMSN to chat to her mates. I don't want her to be able to access the floppy disk, browse the FS, use the terminal, or anything. I've added her as a user, and unticked many o
[08:58] <fyrestrtr> file = directory
[08:58] <gizmo_the_great1> f the tickable options in the 'User Priviliges' part of adding a new user. I had imagined that with Ubuntu there'd be a 'restricted users' group that basically meant that any user added to it would have very basic or no priviliges unless the admin added specific permissions. I thought if it wasn't there it would be easy enough to create. But Google returns very little and Ubuntu seems to be how it is. Any ideas how I can restrict my troubl
[08:58] <gizmo_the_great1> esome sis in law?
[08:58] <qwerty2k> gnomefreak, yes they do
[08:58] <qwerty2k> gnomefreak, automatix bleeder install xgl as a session option
[08:59] <chell> that's the way I want it
[08:59] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: pastebin what file contents?
[08:59] <stefg> anyone good at troubleshooting dialup connection problems? I have a to configure a box here for dialup with dial-on-demand by diald. The problem is that thunderbird can't send mail after diald dials in. Funnily enough a webdav access with davfs works... the logs say nothing.
[08:59] <qwerty2k> chell, well automatix bleeder does that for you :)
[08:59] <neutrinomass> eve
[08:59] <chell> Is it relatively safe to use or will it screw up my sys?
[08:59] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: ls -l /usr/share/tomcat/bin
[08:59] <programcod1> Jack_Sparrow: I just installed the drivers as the insturctions say, and my direct rendering still says NO
[08:59] <Montag_> Anyone know if it's possible to make epiphany block cookies from certain originating sites automatically, or do you need to manually delete them every time?
[08:59] <qwerty2k> chell, easy to use, if its not how you like you simple log out and select a standard gnome session and everything will be back to normal
[08:59] <neutrinomass> Seveas: No offense, but the guy was asking a question - a long question, yet still a question. Why should he get banned ?
[08:59] <gnomefreak> chell: ask in @automatix please
[08:59] <sethk> chell, people have reported dangerous results with automatix, so I would be careful.
[09:00] <Seveas> chell, automatix is unsupoorted, crappy and will probably break your system
[09:00] <gnomefreak> #automatix even
[09:00] <Seveas> anyway, automatix is very offtopic in here
[09:00] <chell> sorry
[09:00] <Seveas> neutrinomass, flooding is flooding...
[09:00] <ic56> gizmo_the_great1: what you want is doable but Ubuntu doesn't provide menus to do it because most people don't want it.  Let me check something.
[09:01] <Seveas> fyrestrtr, lazy and stupid 
[09:01] <IRC_> fyrestrtr:
[09:01] <qwerty2k> aptitude > apt-get
[09:01] <programcod1> Jack_Sparrow: Can you help me?
[09:01] <ic56> gizmo_the_great1: ok. how comfortable are you in the linux command line?
[09:01] <IRC_> fytrestrtr: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19883
[09:01] <Tonren> hey guys, I seem to have corectly used ndiswrapper to install my wireless driivers, because ndiswrapper -l says that driver and hardware are both present, but I'm not getting a wlan0 entry in iwconfig OR ifconfig
[09:01] <fyrestrtr> Seveas: I was being nice ;)
[09:01] <Jack_Sparrow> programcod1: what is your fps now
[09:01] <fistandantilus> if apt-get\synaptic would actually remove a meta package like it installs it would be -extremely- nice, right now its not even close
[09:01] <gnomefreak> qwerty2k: aptitude and apt-get do things differently
[09:01] <ArthurDentN770> hi ppl
[09:01] <grahal> I have multiple filesystems mounted but when I delete a file in nautilus the file goes to .Trash of the filesystem not the desktop trash. Can I change this behavior?
[09:01] <chell> cya
[09:01] <Seveas> Tonren, pastebin the output of ifconfig -a
[09:01] <fyrestrtr> you *REALLY* don't want to know what I think ;)
[09:01] <obnibolongo> hello there guys, can you point me a channel where i can get help about multisync, besides #multisync? or does anyone here has experience with multisync and a sonyericsson?
[09:02] <ArthurDentN770> which packages provide stddef.h file on ubuntu ?
[09:02] <qwerty2k> gnomefreak, what i like about aptitude is that it removes dependancies when uninstalling a program
[09:02] <Seveas> grahal, are those filesystems on femovable media?
[09:02] <Seveas> !compiling > ArthurDentN770
[09:02] <programcod1> Jack_Sparrow: Says about 715.669
[09:02] <Seveas> removable media even....
[09:02] <grahal> Seveas: no, windows ntfs
[09:02] <ardchoille> qwerty2k: The version of apt-get will have that option in Edgy ;)
[09:02] <fistandantilus> aptitude also installs all reccomended packages though so its almost always a bigger install with it
[09:02] <qwerty2k> programcod1, i gave you a direct link to the page telling you exactly how to setup your nvidia drivers
[09:02] <Seveas> grahal, that's impossible... linux can'
[09:02] <gnomefreak> programcod1: 3d accell is not working than
[09:02] <Seveas> t write to ntfs
[09:02] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: did u get it?
[09:02] <Jack_Sparrow> grahal: why are you writing to an ntfs drive?
[09:03] <ArthurDentN770> I wan try to compile xscrable game
[09:03] <grahal> Seveas: just installed ntfs-3g
[09:03] <Seveas> grahal, ah
[09:03] <qwerty2k> ardchoille, :O, really? cool, anyone know where there are a main lsit of new features in edgy?
[09:03] <programcod1> qwerty2k: I follow there instructions and installed it the way they said, still aint' working
[09:03] <Tonren> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19884
[09:03] <gnomefreak> Seveas: meant safely ;)
[09:03] <Seveas> then maybe ntfs-3g is making it appear to be removable?
[09:03] <qwerty2k> programcod1, in your x config is the driver 'nvidia'
[09:03] <Seveas> gnomefreak, ntfs-3g is supposed to be safe
[09:03] <qwerty2k> programcod1, and have you restarted x
[09:03] <gnomefreak> Seveas: when did this hit ubuntu?
[09:03] <programcod1> No I haven't restarted it yet, can I just log out then log back in?
[09:03] <Seveas> Tonren, lsmod | grep ndiswrapper -- does that give output?
[09:04] <Seveas> gnomefreak, it didn't
[09:04] <qwerty2k> shift + backspace
[09:04] <ardchoille> qwerty2k: Yes, I received an email recently from an Ubuntu dev and it said that apt-get in Edgy will have support for uninstalling deps when you uninstall an app
[09:04] <gnomefreak> ah
[09:04] <qwerty2k> ardchoille, nice :D, sounds good
[09:04] <andresmujica> someone out there feels ubuntu in general a bit slow?
[09:04] <Tonren> Seveas, yes.  ndiswrapper 177364 0 and usbcore 130692 5 ndiswrapper, usbhid, ehci_hcd, ohci_hcd
[09:04] <Seveas> gnomefreak, i'm still sceptic too ;)
[09:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Seveas: I still dont trust writing to ntfs, and I have never seen anything to say it is SAFE..
[09:05] <Seveas> Tonren, hrm..... /me puzzled
[09:05] <gnomefreak> andresmujica: not at all but that would depend on sys. specs and what version of ubuntu and what desktop env. anong other things
[09:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Seveas: I am all for letting other people try it..  With a word of warning
[09:06] <Tonren> Seveas: Evenw eirder.. if I `locate wlan0`, it gives me /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.wlan0.leases
[09:06] <nocarrier> hello all
[09:06] <qwerty2k> hey
[09:06] <LastChance> Grrr.... stupid Azureus.
[09:06] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: :)
[09:06] <nocarrier> anyone familiar with hybrid ircd?
[09:06] <LastChance> Can anyone explain to me why Ubuntu has to use a strange version of Java, that breaks Azureus?
[09:07] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: I think you downloaded the wrong archive :) Downlaod the latest one, it has the .sh scripts as well.
[09:07] <LastChance> And more importantly, how do I fix this?
[09:07] <Tonren> LastChance: You can actually install Sun's version of JAVA
[09:07] <gnomefreak> btw partitioning or writing to any drive is never safe unless you know what your doing
[09:07] <LastChance> I did. No progress.
[09:07] <Tonren> LastChance: You might have to explicitly specify to use Sun's version as the default
[09:07] <thejoe> anyone have problems w/ firefox freezing up, etc. after viewing flash and/or any multimedia content???
[09:07] <LastChance> Hmm. How do I do that?
[09:07] <AllenA> not i
[09:07] <LastChance> Tonren: how do I do that?
[09:07] <sorush20> hi are there any backport form edgy to dapper?
[09:07] <Tonren> LastChance: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[09:07] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: on this page, which one should i get?  http://tomcat.apache.org/download-55.cgi#5.5.17
[09:07] <Seveas> sorush20, yes
[09:08] <qwerty2k> thejoe, my flashes freezes when viewing another page
[09:08] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: http://apache.mirrors.pair.com/tomcat/tomcat-5/v5.5.17/bin/apache-tomcat-5.5.17.tar.gz
[09:08] <LastChance> Tonren: sudo: update-alternatives: command not found
[09:08] <gnomefreak> Seveas: they started backporting?
[09:08] <AllenA> is your flash up to date
[09:08] <Seveas> gnomefreak, yes
[09:08] <andresmujica> gnomefreak: well, i feel it slow, and i`m using it at several places... have followed some tips to improve it speed (prelink, swappines, preload -at least the one on apt- and some other i cannot remember right now, but it feels somekind slugish. Anyone has done serious benchmarks between SuSE and Ubuntu? or Anyone knows how can i do them?
[09:08] <Tonren> LastChance: make sure you've run sudo aptitude install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin
[09:08] <qwerty2k> andresmujica, installed correct kernel for your arch?
[09:09] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: ok. i downloaded it. what do i do? same as i did earlier?
[09:09] <LastChance> Tonren: guess what? :O sudo: aptitude: command not found
[09:09] <bb|Gishnob> can anyone help me?
[09:09] <Tonren> wh.. what?
[09:09] <Tonren> LastChance: Are you on Dapper?
[09:09] <qwerty2k> bb|Gishnob, just ask your question not if anyone can help
[09:09] <Tonren> LastChance: Try it with apt-get instead of aptitude
[09:09] <LastChance> Tonren: I downloaded the latest ISO. I suspect so.
[09:09] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: yeah, only this time, you'll have a startup.sh and a shutdown.sh
[09:09] <bb|Gishnob> im running an ibm thinkpad 770x, and i cant get my sound to work
[09:09] <bb|Gishnob> its loading the cs46xx driver
[09:09] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: ok. im copying it through nautilus now. do i just overright everything?
[09:09] <ardchoille> fyrestrtr: Not being nosy, but shouldn't that go to #tomcat? since it isn't about the one in the repos?
[09:10] <bb|Gishnob> not the cs4236 driver which im apperntly supposed to load
[09:10] <andresmujica> qwerty2k: yeap, that was the other tip i've followed. the right kernel... and yes i'm using dapper
[09:10] <gnomefreak> LastChance: aptitude is installed by default it should just work
[09:10] <LastChance> what in the name of hell.... apt-get: command not found.
[09:10] <fyrestrtr> ardchoille: I told him so :)
[09:10] <LastChance> Something's broken
[09:10] <fyrestrtr> LastChance: source /etc/profile
[09:10] <Tonren> Seveas: Any thoughts on my wireless prob?
[09:10] <gnomefreak> LastChance: pleasepaste me the command you are using
[09:10] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: ok its copied. now do i edit the startx file?
[09:10] <Seveas> Tonren, not really 
[09:10] <LastChance> Oh, got it.
[09:10] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: yes, overwrite it -- THEN go to #tomcat and they will help you with that.
[09:10] <ardchoille> IRC_: That is now off-topic.
[09:10] <Mr_Magic> ! base system > Mr_Magic
[09:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about base system  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:10] <Seveas> Tonren, did you do ndisrwapper -m already?
[09:11] <LastChance> gnomefreak: solved it
[09:11] <Jack_Sparrow> LastChance: been playing god... er I mean sudo
[09:11] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: NO. DO NOT TOUCH THAT FILE. I MADE A MISTAKE IN MENTIONING IT.
[09:11] <Tonren> Seveas: I thought that just sets it up to run on bootup
[09:11] <Tonren> Seveas: modprobe config already contains alias directive
[09:11] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: ok. ill go to the other room. can u give me the link for that IRC?
[09:11] <linuxbob> I`m having a hard time installing downloaded packages can you advise
[09:11] <zugu> hi all
[09:11] <Seveas> Tonren, that was my last straw
[09:11] <LastChance> Tonren: Hot damn, : Couldn't find package sun-java5-jre
[09:11] <qwerty2k> LastChance, have you enabled the other repo's?
[09:11] <LastChance> Tonren: and yes I've added the other repo's.
[09:11] <gnomefreak> LastChance: enable multiverse repos
[09:11] <Seveas> LastChance, search for sun in applications  add/remov
[09:12] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: /join #tomcat
[09:12] <Tonren> Seveas: So weird...
[09:12] <Seveas> make sure to enable commercial applications there
[09:12] <fistandantilus> Tonren: did you blacklist the bcm43xx module?
[09:12] <Seveas> fistandantilus, yes he did 
[09:12] <Tauhshi> i'm trying to install automatix, but I dont know which one to get, Kubuntu or Ubuntu. I have ubntu, but I installed the Kubuntu desktop packages . . .
[09:12] <Tonren> fistandantilus: Yeah, Seveas walked me through that.  It was forcing creation of eth1
[09:12] <LastChance> I'm using fluxbox. But I'll try and --- commerical applications?
[09:12] <Tonren> fistandantilus: But now I have neither eth1 nor wlan0
[09:12] <LastChance> I'll just use synaptic to install them
[09:12] <Seveas> Tauhshi, automatix is broken, will break your system and is offtopic in here
[09:12] <TheMoebius> is there a GDM theme changing app?
[09:12] <fistandantilus> Tonren: well my wireless runs on eth1 .. ahh i see you dont have either though
[09:12] <nocarrier> if anyone needs the drivers for the BC4319, let me know
[09:12] <programcode> qwerty: are you still there?
[09:12] <qwerty2k> Seveas, its broken? its always worked for me
[09:12] <qwerty2k> programcode, yes
[09:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !automatix > Tauhshi
[09:13] <Tonren> fistandantilus: bcm43xx was forcing creation of an eth1, but it wasn't working
[09:13] <Tauhshi> Oh, ok. May I ask why it is offtopic?
[09:13] <gnomefreak> TheMoebius: system>admin>login page
[09:13] <Seveas> qwerty2k, then you have a weird definition of broken
[09:13] <Seveas> Tauhshi, because it's crap
[09:13] <programcode> qwerty: I can't get  back into ubuntu, it starts up and says failed to start x
[09:13] <Tonren> Seveas: Automatix is broken??  man, I was so excited about it.  waht's wrong with it?
[09:13] <gatekeeper> Tauhshi, don't use automatrix unless you happy to spend time fixing things
[09:13] <qwerty2k> programcode, what is the error?
[09:13] <Seveas> Tonren, it breaks a lot of systems on a daily basis
[09:13] <fyrestrtr> programcode: type ctrl+alt+f1 to get to a console, and you can fix your system from there.
[09:13] <Tonren> Seveas: Lame.. I guess I can see why.  Trying to apply the same script to so many different sys configurations
[09:13] <Seveas> and the author of it cares more aboiut his ego than Ubuntu users
[09:13] <qwerty2k> Seveas, whats broken about it (genuine question as ive never had a problem with it)
[09:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Automatix breaks systems... with great regularity
[09:13] <fistandantilus> besides totally skipping the package manager
[09:13] <Tauhshi> Oh, I'm really just trying to install mp3 support . . .
[09:14] <Seveas> anyway, automatix is offtopic
[09:14] <programcode> fyrestrtr: how do I fix it I am at the console
[09:14] <Seveas> so discussion ends here 
[09:14] <zugu> i have a strange problem with java: "java -version" echoes 1.4.2, but if I go to Sun's site to test my Java installation it says I have Java 1.5.0_06 installed. what could cause this?
[09:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !mp3 > Tauhshi
[09:14] <LastChance> Sun things are not in Synaptic.
[09:14] <gnomefreak> zugu: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[09:14] <Seveas> zugu, sudo update-java-alternatives --config --jre sun-java-1.5.0
[09:14] <qwerty2k> Seveas, (sorry to be off topic) but is easyubuntu considered better alternative then?
[09:14] <zugu> thank you
[09:14] <gatekeeper> Tauhshi, I use amarok with the xine engine & libxine-extracodecs
[09:14] <Seveas> qwerty2k, slightly -- it has much less potential of breakage
[09:15] <Jack_Sparrow> qwerty2k: Not much better
[09:15] <Seveas> qwerty2k, #easyubuntu can tell more
[09:15] <gnomefreak> use apt
[09:15] <gatekeeper> Tauhshi, should say I use kubuntu too
[09:15] <programcode> qwerty: If I get to the console, ubuntu startup can I fix the startx problem
[09:15] <qwerty2k> isnt automatix/easyubuntu type scripts going to be included as standard in edgy?
[09:15] <gnomefreak> qwerty2k: hell no
[09:15] <qwerty2k> programcode, you need to tell me the error x gives you wehn trying to start
[09:15] <Section12> LastChance: Did you update your sources.list to include universe and multiverse repos?
[09:15] <LastChance> I did it via Synaptic.
[09:16] <fyrestrtr> programcode: depends what's broke :)
[09:16] <qwerty2k> gnomefreak, thats what i thought when i read the topic (Sticky) in the edgy forum?
[09:16] <LastChance> How do I update sources.list manually? what should it contain?
[09:16] <linuxbob> yes
[09:16] <programcode> qwerty: it says failed to start x, gdm configured wrong reconfigure gdm then restart gdm, I think that basically what it sasy
[09:16] <fyrestrtr> !easysource > LastChance
[09:16] <Jack_Sparrow> !easysource
[09:16] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:16] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: nobody is helping me in there.
[09:16] <AllenA> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:16] <LastChance> Thanks fyrestrtr
[09:16] <zugu> Seveas > there's something wrong with the syntax in the command you provided
[09:16] <fyrestrtr> !patience
[09:16] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:17] <fyrestrtr> IRC_: that applies there too :)
[09:17] <qwerty2k> programcode, can you paste your x config to pastbin or whereever?
[09:17] <Seveas> !repos > Seveas
[09:17] <gatekeeper> LastChance, http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories
[09:17] <Seveas> zugu, works fine here
[09:17] <CrazyDoode> my understanding is that ndiswrapper will not work at all with bcm43xx in ubuntu.
[09:17] <programcode> qwerty: I can't I am on ubuntu live cd right now
[09:17] <fyrestrtr> Seveas: I bet he's typing it at the cli
[09:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !broadcom > CrazyDoode
[09:17] <Seveas> heh
[09:18] <Emon> Hello
[09:18] <qwerty2k> programcode, load up your ubuntu install after x fails run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:18] <Emon> Could anyone recommend a console app for managing users and groups?
[09:18] <programcode> what does that do qwerty?
[09:19] <Seveas> Emon, adduser
[09:19] <CrazyDoode> because you  ->will get<- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29#head-6558bd8e14c2ea758ae416322609949e2a1bc87a
[09:19] <Emon> :/
[09:19] <qwerty2k> programcode, reconfigure your xserver and will make it start again
[09:19] <fyrestrtr> Emon: useradd?
[09:19] <Seveas> fyrestrtr, adduser is better 
[09:19] <fyrestrtr> :)
[09:19] <programcode> qwerty: I will try that now
[09:19] <Emon> I meant something more user friendly
[09:19] <qwerty2k> :)
[09:20] <fyrestrtr> Emon: user friendly ... maybe you just need to read the man?
[09:20] <Seveas> Emon, it doesn't get much friendlier than adduser
[09:20] <CrazyDoode> i know because i got my bcm43xx working just fine under Dapper.
[09:20] <Emon> fyrestrtr, make you could not be a condescending linux zealot
[09:20] <fyrestrtr> Emon: excuse me?
[09:20] <danf_1979> does /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh sets the hostname at boot time?
[09:21] <Seveas> danf_1979, no
[09:21] <Seveas> hostname.sh does that
[09:21] <fyrestrtr> danf_1979: thta would be hostname.sh
[09:21] <Seveas> fyrestrtr, too slow :
[09:21] <fyrestrtr> danf_1979: what problem do you have?
[09:22] <fyrestrtr> Seveas: watching a hbo comedy special.
[09:22] <Seveas> so?
[09:22] <TheMoebius> I'm getting this error does anyone know what it means?: ldconfig: /usr/lib32/libXxf86dga.so.1 is not a symbolic link
[09:22] <Ghost_Printer> does the ubuntu alternative cd let you install ubuntu without firefox?
[09:22] <fyrestrtr> forgot my ninja breakfast this morning and its ... 10:22 PM :)
[09:22] <LastChance> Okay, added new repo's to apt-get.
[09:22] <LastChance> Still no dice.
[09:22] <AllenA> 10:22 pm? where are you
[09:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Ghost_Printer: you can just uninstall firefox
[09:23] <] GD>  heyy
[09:23] <TRoGDoR50> fyrestrtr: Pirates are cooler than ninjas!
[09:23] <LastChance> E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-jre
[09:23] <fyrestrtr> AllenA: somewhere that is GMT+3
[09:23] <qwerty2k> why are pirates, pirates?
[09:23] <LastChance> I have:
[09:23] <] GD>  i'm still trying to boot ubuntu... i tried the !grub wiki, and tried using Super Grub Disk,  after both attempts, all I get when booting is a black screen with a _
[09:23] <qwerty2k> caus they ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH
[09:23] <AllenA> aha ok
[09:23] <] GD>  i'm not sure if GRUB was even loaded.
[09:23] <fyrestrtr> LastChance: did you run sudo apt-get update ?
[09:23] <Seveas> !offtopic
[09:23] <danf_1979> Oh, I missed it. Thanks... fyrestrtr I was testing a software in qemu and had some problems when changing /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname. hostname -f said unkown host, and sudo didn't work either. Thats why I needed to know so to execute it after modifying those files...
[09:23] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:23] <fyrestrtr> AllenA: Kuwait
[09:23] <astro> XANATOS ARE YOU THERE ?
[09:23] <Seveas> !caps
[09:23] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[09:24] <] GD> lol
[09:24] <ColonelPanic001> lolz
[09:24] <LastChance> teh help!
[09:24] <LastChance> Stupid apt-get repo's.
[09:24] <astro> any can help me ?
[09:24] <Seveas> !anyone > astro
[09:25] <astro> i have a problem with my wireless (broadcom)
[09:25] <LastChance> Okay, I have this in my apt-get repo list file.
[09:25] <LastChance> deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[09:25] <LastChance> deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[09:25] <SurfnKid> astro,  whats the prob
[09:25] <gatekeeper> LastChance, http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories
[09:25] <LastChance> Is that what I need to install Sun's Java?
[09:25] <fyrestrtr> LastChance: no no don't paste in here please.
[09:25] <Seveas> !reposdowwn > LastChance
[09:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about reposdowwn  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:25] <] GD_> O_o disconnected
[09:25] <LastChance> Sorry.
[09:25] <fyrestrtr> LastChance: is that all you have?
[09:25] <gnomefreak> LastChance: add a sace than multiverse after the word universe
[09:25] <] GD_> omg its ubuntu
[09:25] <ubuntu> it's the livecd
[09:26] <gnomefreak> s/sace/space
[09:26] <gatekeeper> LastChance, for some you need multiverse
[09:26] <] GD_> =] 
[09:26] <ubuntu> lol
[09:26] <] GD_> its alive!!
[09:26] <eigenlambda> ] GD_: omg its ] GD_
[09:26] <programcode> qwerty: good news it is working again and video is fixed, bad news my xgl won't work now :(
[09:26] <AllenA> i think sun java is in multiverse
[09:26] <] GD_> hmm
[09:26] <] GD_>  i'm still trying to boot ubuntu... i tried the !grub wiki, and tried using Super Grub Disk,  after both attempts, all I get when booting is a black screen with a _
[09:26] <] GD_>  i'm not sure if GRUB was even loaded.
[09:26] <Section12> programcode: http://www.compiz.net/viewtopic.php?id=652
[09:26] <eigenlambda> ya sun java isn't good enough for debian/non-free, but is good enough for multiverse
[09:26] <gatekeeper> brb
[09:27] <zeeeee> hi all, if i wrote or know of a great piece of foss, how do i go about making this available as a software package? (presumably there's a way for me to submit things to universe or multiverse or something?)
[09:27] <Seveas> eigenlambda, iirc it's in non-free too
[09:27] <fyrestrtr> ] GD: sounds like grub is installed on the wrong disc.
[09:27] <SurfnKid> astro, ?
[09:27] <Seveas> !motu > zeeeee
[09:27] <] GD_> hmm..
[09:27] <astro> yep
[09:27] <astro> here
[09:27] <eigenlambda> lol packaging is hard
[09:27] <LastChance> Okay, apt-get is updating with new repo's.
[09:27] <programcode> Section12: That one doesn't work
[09:27] <eigenlambda> and all the good stuff has already been packaged
[09:27] <SurfnKid> astro, whats the prob with the broadcomm
[09:27] <programcode> Section12: tried it already
[09:27] <Seveas> eigenlambda, neh it's just a trick ;)
[09:27] <LastChance> Damn sun and ubuntu equally for all this hassle =)
[09:28] <fyrestrtr> zeeeee: you could always start your own repo and publish it, and then submit a bug request for it.
[09:28] <selfharm> what command do use as root to make a mount read/write byall?
[09:28] <LastChance> It gets easier I suppose once you've done it before...
[09:28] <Section12> Hmm
[09:28] <Section12> Worked for me flawlessly
[09:28] <Jack_Sparrow> selfharm: what is the format of that drive
[09:28] <KenSentMe> I'm using this tutorial to install a spam an virusscanner for my mailserver workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/#amavis but i can't find the /etc/amavis/amavisd.conf file on my system. Is this changed in a newer version of Amavis?
[09:28] <jonc101> how can i open zip files from the CLI in ubuntu?
[09:28] <] GD_> how should I go about finding the right disk? xD i'm tempted to just try them all!
[09:28] <astro> is not working
[09:28] <KenSentMe> jonc101: use unzip
[09:28] <djm62> jonc101: unzip?
[09:28] <astro> i think its the controller
[09:29] <jonc101> unzip
[09:29] <jonc101> bash: unzip: command not found
[09:29] <LastChance> jonc101: don't quote me on this, but try typing unzip myfile.zip
[09:29] <LastChance> hmm
[09:29] <programcode> Section12: but did you have to update your driver, see if that is the one that makes me update my driver nvidia card then that is where the problem lies
[09:29] <KenSentMe> jonc101: sudo apt-get install unzip
[09:29] <] GD_> i did  "find /boot/grub/stage1"
[09:29] <LastChance> lol linux is fun
[09:29] <AllenA> on that note... what can i use to decompress sit files
[09:29] <someperson> i am trying to access a wpa secured wireless network, and i installed a network manager, and modified etc/default/wpasupplicant
[09:29] <Section12> programcode: what driver are you using? nv or nvidia?
[09:29] <LastChance> stuffit for linux I think.
[09:29] <Seveas> AllenA, apt-cache search sit 
[09:29] <jonc101> KenSentMe: working thanks :)
[09:29] <abhinay> anybody having this gnome splash without netBSD logo - http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/NetBSD/packages/distfiles/gnome-splash-2.14.0.png  (without netBSD logo) ?
[09:30] <KenSentMe> Does anyone have amavis installed and can they tell me if the /etc/amavis dir contains a config file?
[09:30] <AllenA> Seveas: i thouhgt there might already be a package installed for it
[09:30] <sorush20> !backport
[09:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about backport - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:30] <programcode> Section12:NV, nvidia messes up my videos
[09:30] <Seveas> AllenA, that will also show up 
[09:30] <rukuartic> Hey everyone... Having problems here with software sound mixing. It just doesn't want to work... I've followed a few tutorials online but nothing seems to work. I'm not even sure what sound system I'm using right now... (Alsa/oss/esd etc)
[09:30] <astro> but i have a solution(i think)
[09:30] <] GD_> do I want to write grub to the MBR or to my  linux root partition?
[09:30] <oem2go> got a question, im trying to change the gnome splash in ubuntu but the instructions im looking at calls for gnome-spash-manager which its coming back as not found.  i hav e my log-in screen changed, but i cant seem to get the ubuntu splash changed.
[09:30] <someperson> after doing all of that i still can't access my network
[09:30] <fyrestrtr> does anyone have a issue where the media player won't show any visualizations? It doesn't do that on my desktop (which has nvidia drivers) on my laptop (ati drivers) I just get a black screen where the visualizations are. Anyone else experience this?
[09:30] <Section12> programcode: Videos?
[09:30] <zeeeee> Seveas: so the only way is to submit a request to the ever-growing https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates?
[09:31] <ardchoille> ] GD_: MBR
[09:31] <SurfnKid> astro, ok cool :)
[09:31] <] GD_> k
[09:31] <gnomefreak> abhinay: go to gnome-llok.org
[09:31] <gnomefreak> damn
[09:31] <Seveas> zeeeee, or become a motu yourself 
[09:31] <ardchoille> lol
[09:31] <gnomefreak> abhinay: go to gnome-look.org
[09:31] <programcode> Section12: yeah I play a video and it splits the same video and has it playing three times in the same screen
[09:31] <AllenA> Seveas: btw i have searched before, it returns a very large amount of results... got a recomendation?
[09:31] <someperson> wep works, but wpa does not
[09:31] <rever> Hi is there a way to make Gnome use oss driver and not esd?
[09:31] <zeeeee> fyrestrtr: what about the candidates list? is creating my own repos better?
[09:31] <Section12> programcode: hmm what video card do you have?
[09:31] <abhinay> gnomefreak, name of the splash screen ?
[09:31] <LastChance> someperson: wpa is a huge pain.
[09:32] <programcode> Section12: Nvidia Geforce 2 MMX
[09:32] <Seveas> AllenA, I would have said that if i Had one
[09:32] <gnomefreak> abhinay: i dont know there are thousands of them
[09:32] <fyrestrtr> zeeeee: I don't know about that to be honest, but it seems its the easiest way to get your program out for ubuntu (a few other projects are doing the same)
[09:32] <Section12> programcode: did you use the legacy driver?
[09:32] <rukuartic> !esd
[09:32] <ubotu> esd is the enlightened sound deamon. It's deprecated, use !alsa instead
[09:32] <teicah> how come sometimes 'sudo apt-get install' asks y/n and other times it just starts downloading?
[09:32] <zeeeee> fyrestrtr: yeah that's true, i at least know of automatix
[09:32] <abhinay> gnomefreak, i like this splash screen very much
[09:32] <dpupp> does anyone have any updated info on how to change the splash screen in ubuntu?
[09:32] <AllenA> Seveas: cool thanks
[09:32] <programcode> Section12: Legacy Driver yes
[09:32] <zeeeee> why isn't there a decentralized repository (a la pypi?)
[09:32] <sorush20> how comes k3b 0.12.16 has not been back ported yet.?
[09:32] <someperson> i am trying to access a wpa secured wireless network, and i installed a network manager, and modified etc/default/wpasupplicant...it still does not work though. However, i can access wep
[09:32] <fyrestrtr> teicah: depends on the status of a package, and if its authorized (signed with a key that you have) or not.
[09:33] <programcode> Section12: and I tried the regular ones,does the same thing
[09:33] <elle> hallo
[09:33] <fyrestrtr> zeeeee: quality control :)
[09:33] <Section12> Hmm
[09:33] <LastChance> I'm having some trouble with my sound on my laptop dying after a certain period of time, with a loud squeak. How do I restart alsa to return it to normal?
[09:33] <verbose> someperson: i've been trying to do that too with no success...do you have an ipw2200 card?
[09:33] <rever> Sorry I ment esound
[09:33] <tuxtux> ciao
[09:33] <Section12> programcode: Does it do it with all videos or just a certain player?
[09:33] <someperson> no, i have an intel abg card
[09:33] <verbose> they use the same driver i believe
[09:34] <verbose> 3915abg or something like that?
[09:34] <programcode> Section12: all players streaming or just regular, except flash player
[09:34] <someperson> yeah
[09:34] <verbose> anyway, to wpa i think all intel cards are just ipw
[09:34] <someperson> ah
[09:34] <Section12> programcode: hmm..sucks
[09:34] <rever> Well I use an Nforce 2 board with soundstorm. Would like to be able to set you my 5.1 speakers and use HW mixing.
[09:34] <someperson> i wish it was built into ubuntu itself
[09:35] <rever> I have sound working just none of the sound at start up or for gnome.
[09:35] <zeeeee> fyrestrtr: *shrugs* if the user adds such a repository, they know they'll get everything 'raw'
[09:35] <MoNkUnClE> ok still lost,does anyone here run vmware server on a dualboot ubuntu/WinXP with Ubuntu Host and WinXP VM??
[09:36] <verbose> Nomad411: i'm not dual booting, but i have an ubuntu machine running vmwareserver with an xp pro virtual machine
[09:36] <Luke> is there a way to get different window manager themes with compiz?
[09:36] <MoNkUnClE> verbose i am trying to get my existing WinXP which is the same drive to boot under VMware
[09:36] <qwerty2k> Luke, cgwd theme manager
[09:36] <Xenocide> Whoo hoo anyone have a default smb.conf please?
[09:36] <Luke> qwerty2k: thanks
[09:37] <Section12> Luke: you can find more on www.gnome-look.org
[09:37] <Luke> qwerty2k: thats not in ubuntu repos is it?
[09:37] <qwerty2k> Luke, it should come with newer versions of compiz
[09:37] <ardchoille> !info cgwd
[09:37] <ubotu> Package cgwd does not exist in dapper
[09:38] <someperson> does anyone know how to access wpa
[09:38] <Luke> qwerty2k: ah =) thanks
[09:38] <jonc101> does anyone, by chance, know how to load up a virtual appliance in vmware?
[09:38] <danf_1979> hostname.sh did the job, thanks guys
[09:38] <jonc101> start it up, mount it or wotever?
[09:39] <ed_> ..
[09:39] <Xenocide> Does anyone have SMB.CONF please?
[09:39] <TheMoebius> ok so I installed this theme that crashes just about every program i try to open up including the theme changer so how can I switch it back to default?
[09:39] <Xenocide> (From /etc/samba/smb.conf)
[09:39] <sddsdsdds> hello, does someone knows an article to work with firewire 800 hdd's in ubuntu (server installation)?
[09:39] <AllenA> xenocide: yes i do
[09:39] <dennis_> i am new to this how do i install ut2004
[09:40] <Xenocide> AllenA: I love you, can you err... email it to: ubuntu@xenocide.info please?
[09:40] <snooplsm> sudo apt-get install ut2004
[09:40] <LastChance> Xenocide: I have the default file if you want. but it's never been used.
[09:40] <AllenA> xenocide:sure
[09:40] <snooplsm> !ut2004
[09:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about ut2004 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:40] <Xenocide> Thanks AllenA  and LastChance. Please email it to ubuntu@xenocide.info :)
[09:41] <LastChance> to install ut2004, go into the install folder on the CD and type ./installer-ut2004.sh
[09:41] <LastChance> I think that's what the file's called.
[09:41] <dennis_> couldnt find package
[09:41] <jon_> hey
[09:41] <snooplsm> lmao
[09:41] <jon_> i could not connect to the internet, i am on a network, the server is running xp
[09:41] <jon_> i deactivated my ethernet card and reactivated and it worked, why is this?
[09:42] <sasalli> hi I need help. please
[09:42] <sasalli> about installation ubuntu amd64 6.06
[09:42] <KenSentMe> Does anyone have amavisd-new installed? I think i'm missing some config files
[09:42] <Lynoure> sasalli: all our mindreaders are busy right now, enter your question to get normal help
[09:42] <sddsdsdds> does someone had experience with firewire 800 hdd's?
[09:42] <fistandantilus> i dont get this, messing with NAT, im going from wireless on a laptop to ethernet out to a hub and a desktop to the hub as well .. when the laptop starts, i can ping the desktop, but no DNS .. i go into networking for the wireless device and remove the dns server and put the same one back in i get DNS on the laptop butthen i cant ping the desktop at all .. what gives?
[09:42] <hpnj> Lynoure: be nice
[09:42] <eternaljoy> Is there a way for me to remove/uninstall Wine from Dapper, and make my system totaly rid of Wine and anything else it installed, as if I never installed it in the first place?
[09:42] <dennis_> cdrom/media
[09:43] <snooplsm> edit /etc/inittab
[09:43] <sasalli> where is he normal help?
[09:43] <snooplsm> make the default runlevel 6 , and reboot
[09:43] <Seveas> eternaljoy, get rid of the wine packages and ~/.wine
[09:43] <AllenA> Xenocide: sent
[09:43] <Lynoure> hpnj: I was trying to be funny.
[09:43] <snooplsm> ignore that
[09:43] <snooplsm> i'm just playin
[09:43] <hpnj> sasalli:  what is your question about amd 64 install?
[09:43] <thoron> Anyone happen to know what's wrong with Ubuntu 6.06 xorg dri module so that it won't work with ATI Radeon 9250 card? Any fixes available?
[09:43] <LastChance> xenocide: sent
[09:43] <KenSentMe> sasalli: you can ask your questions here
[09:43] <Xenocide> Thanks AllenA and LastChance!! :D
[09:43] <sasalli> ok
[09:43] <eternaljoy> Seveas: how do I get rid of the wine packages?
[09:44] <Section12> eternaljoy: sudo apt-get remove wine
[09:44] <Section12> ??
[09:44] <Seveas> eternaljoy, with apt-get I'd say...
[09:44] <sasalli> how can i edit my partition table for install?
[09:44] <programcode> Section12: Do you wanna see what I mean my video going into three. I have a screenshot of it
[09:44] <Section12> eternaljoy: then rm the .wine directory
[09:44] <LastChance> eternaljoy:...or a crowbar, otherwise ;)
[09:44] <AllenA> samsalli: fdisk?
[09:44] <jon_> what do i need to dl to play wmv?
[09:44] <Section12> programcode: Surely
[09:44] <Seveas> !wmv > jon_
[09:44] <eternaljoy> Seveas: so if I "sudo apt-get remove wine" then then delete ~/.wine , it would be as if I never installed wine in the first place?
[09:44] <sasalli> no
[09:44] <ack> does that remove windows programs installed using wine as well? I know they wont work I just wanna make sure everything is gone
[09:45] <LastChance> jon_ : a miracle. it's called wmv-codecs. I think the command is sudo apt-get install wmv-codecs
[09:45] <Seveas> eternaljoy, unless someone else on your system also used wine: yes
[09:45] <sasalli> I'm in ubuntu now.
[09:45] <eternaljoy> Section12: ok
[09:45] <eternaljoy> Seveas: ok
[09:45] <jon_> thanks
[09:45] <sasalli> I want to nstall ubuntu to my hdd
[09:45] <dennis_> ok how do i get to my cdrom
[09:46] <qwerty2k> sasalli, click the install icon on the desktop
[09:46] <AllenA> sasalli sudo fdisk /dev/hdd
[09:46] <jon_> do you guys like using apt-get or synaptic better?
[09:46] <hpnj> sasalli:  are you using the live cd?
[09:46] <Seveas> dennis_, places -> cdrom
[09:46] <sasalli> yes
[09:46] <SurfnKid> jon_, either or
[09:46] <Lynoure> sasalli: Depending on what kind of changes you want to do for the install, the installer can do some of them (like creating partitions that ubuntu needs if there is empty space)
[09:46] <danf_1979> Does anyone remembers if when doing "apt-get update" or "aptitude update" and a error ocurrs (like if no internet), then the error string starts with "Err" always?
[09:46] <sasalli> But i have important partitions
[09:46] <xnoff> should my nForce2 ethernet work automatically on an ubuntu live cd?
[09:46] <SurfnKid> danf_1979, yeah as if you didnt have an internet connection?
[09:46] <LastChance> apt-get is good for when you know what you want to install, synaptic's good if you don't know where to start (or are having a hard time figuring out the command prompt)
[09:46] <danf_1979> yes SurfnKid
[09:46] <LastChance> xnoff: yes, it should. Hopefully.
[09:47] <Section12> sasalli: parted is a pretty decent partion just make sure to follow the onscreen guide
[09:47] <ack> you may want to find a different computer to try the install for your first time sasalli
[09:47] <fistandantilus> !ICS
[09:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about ICS - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:47] <dennis_> i am lost
[09:47] <fistandantilus> !nat
[09:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about nat - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:47] <ack> its not too bad but just in case
[09:47] <eternaljoy> Section12: so installing wine etc, never touches any system files, like MS windows would?
[09:47] <hpnj> jon_ - apt-get is more powerful, but I have been using the add/remove front-end with no problems...its even simpler than synaptic
[09:47] <verbose> is there a way to find out the current refresh rate of your monitor?
[09:47] <sasalli> is there any guide with picture?
[09:47] <danf_1979> of if server is down, but when doing update only, not downloading packages...
[09:47] <programcode> Section12: I will give you the link to it in a second, I am uploading it to photobucket.com
[09:47] <danf_1979> or*
[09:47] <SurfnKid> danf_1979, i had that on my vaio, it has something to do with how synaptic or apt-get recognizes the gateway, i could never get that fixed, i jsut changed routers till it updated successfully
[09:47] <Section12> eternaljoy: nah, should have modified anything
[09:47] <qwerty2k> verbose, goto screen resolutions
[09:47] <qwerty2k> verbose, system->preferences
[09:48] <eternaljoy> Section12: should have modified anything?
[09:48] <verbose> qwerty2k: aah, thanks, always forget about the guis
[09:48] <qwerty2k> verbose, no problem
[09:48] <SurfnKid> danf_1979, there's an article in the forums about it
[09:48] <programcode> Section12: here is the screenshot of what my video is doing http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l311/programcode/Screenshot-1.png, qwerty look at this this is what I was talking about with my video earlier
[09:48] <Section12> eternaljoy: should be good
[09:48] <SurfnKid> danf_1979, just not sure where
[09:48] <sasalli> there is so crowd :(
[09:49] <qwerty2k> programcode, have you tried a different media player?
[09:49] <sasalli> please somebody invite my to pm
[09:49] <Section12> Hmm
[09:49] <bobbyd> hi
[09:49] <qwerty2k> programcode, or a different video output
[09:49] <danf_1979> SurfnKid, I'm can't disconnect my cable right now because I'm doing some tests, but I needed to know if an error always starts with "Err"...
[09:49] <jon_> anyone have mldonkey?
[09:49] <hpnj> sasalli - i sent u a PM
[09:49] <bobbyd> does suspend to disk work on dapper out of the box?
[09:49] <hpnj> are you doing a dual boot with WinXP?  Or are you just going to install Ubuntu as your primary OS
[09:49] <FliesLikeABrick> how can I start a vnc server so that someone can view the screen I'm currently using?
[09:50] <Section12> programcode: Have you tried different screen modes?
[09:50] <dennis_> hi all
[09:50] <Section12> dennis_: hi
[09:50] <dennis_> i am new to linux and cant get a game to install
[09:50] <Zooliegsm> hi all....
[09:50] <Section12> hmm
[09:50] <mc_> !ask
[09:50] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:50] <] GD> hmm... i'm still having trouble figuring out where GRUB shuld be...
[09:50] <ardchoille> dennis_: Which game and how are you installing it?
[09:50] <Zooliegsm> anyone knows how to play heroes 3 or 5 on linux? where can i get install file or iso cd?
[09:50] <programcode> Section12: what do you mean differenet screen modes?
[09:51] <Section12> programcode: resolutionis
[09:51] <Section12> programcode: resolutions
[09:51] <SurfnKid> danf_1979, cant tell ya now cuz i dont have my vaio with me, not sure if it started with that, i think it was... and some sort of Failed.. attempt to connect
[09:51] <SurfnKid> brb
[09:51] <dennis_> in terminal what do i type to get to my cdrom
[09:51] <hpnj> Sasalli -- check out http://www.nuxified.org/the_ubuntu_dapper_experience for a graphical guide to install
[09:51] <] GD> so i tried the first method of recovering Ubuntu from !grub... installing from the Install CD(not live CD)
[09:51] <programcode> Section12: Umm.. let me try that
[09:51] <danf_1979> Ok thanks
[09:51] <] GD> actually.. i used the live CD but pressed f6  and then boot:rescue
[09:51] <sasalli> ok i going to check
[09:51] <jon_> how do i check hd space again/.
[09:51] <] GD> I'm assuming at that point... grub should load, right?
[09:52] <jonc101> df -h
[09:52] <] GD> because it asks to choose language.. but nothing is displayed on screen.
[09:52] <xnoff> LastChance well it's not, so what should I do?
[09:52] <tamp4x> how can i down grade from x64 to i386?
[09:52] <xnoff> LastChance: sorry I missed your answer
[09:52] <jon_> sweet i got the w32 codec package
[09:52] <LastChance> xnoff: I forgot your question! :O
[09:52] <programcode> Section12: tried different resolution no luck
[09:52] <mjr> tamp4x, reinstall, pretty much
[09:52] <jon_> where do you guys learn all the commands?
[09:53] <jonc101> practise
[09:53] <jon_> hah
[09:53] <jonc101> and use them everyday
[09:53] <tamp4x> mjr ... my i386 disk is corrupted
[09:53] <tamp4x> and i noly have x64 disk here
[09:53] <jon_> ya
[09:53] <LastChance> jon_: through long nights spent trying to do tasks that are easy in Windows. Like use bittorrent.
[09:53] <tamp4x> only
[09:53] <jon_> its almost discouraging
[09:53] <Zooliegsm> anyone knows how to play heroes 3 or 5 on linux? where can i get install file or iso cd?
[09:53] <sasalli> hmm thank you for guide. it looks like work
[09:53] <tamp4x> i was wondering i can do this via apt-get
[09:53] <jon_> but windows sucks
[09:54] <LastChance> jon_: at the moment I've wasted an hour and a half trying to get Azureus working.
[09:54] <LastChance> jon_: you learn to deal with it.
[09:54] <] GD> hmm... i'm still having trouble figuring out where GRUB shuld be...so i tried the first method of recovering Ubuntu from !grub... installing from the Install CD(not live CD) actually.. i used the live CD but pressed f6  and then entered "boot: rescue" I'm assuming at that point... grub should load, right? because it asks to choose language.. but nothing is displayed on screen.
[09:54] <jon_> yea, ive spent two days trying to get all the stuff i want
[09:54] <jon_> i took me a day to install a program
[09:54] <xnoff> LastChance: lol sorry.. my nForce2 ethernet is not working
[09:54] <LastChance> jon_: you're doing better than I did :)
[09:54] <Lynoure> jon_: You can learn a lot about commands from command   apropos  and  man, and lost of online resources, some books, even, and friendly fellow linux people
[09:55] <xnoff> LastChance: is there some sort of driver I need to get?
[09:55] <jon_> yea, the people in this chat seem really nice
[09:55] <LastChance> xnoff: Have you tried typing 'ifconfig' into a terminal window?
[09:55] <sasalli> well. how much hdd space i need for install?
[09:55] <programcode> Hello room.... DO YOU GUYS LIKE XGL ON UBUNTU? YES OR NO
[09:55] <LastChance> xnoff: I presume it's fundamentally 'not working'?
[09:55] <gilianima> Why isn't it possible to run the command: 'sudo echo "abc" > abc' in the root directory ?
[09:55] <xnoff> LastChance: nevermind it suddenly works
[09:55] <sasalli> is 10gb enough?
[09:55] <Seveas> gilianima, because the > is interpreted by the shell, not sudo
[09:55] <xnoff> LastChance: thanks lol
[09:55] <LastChance> xnoff: w00t I love it when it does that
[09:55] <digitalpenguin> good afternoon all
[09:55] <LastChance> sasalli: that's about right.
[09:56] <Seveas> gilianima, try echo "abc" | sudo tee abc
[09:56] <sasalli> 10gb?
[09:56] <LastChance> Now, Azureus is still not working properly
[09:56] <dooglus> gilianima: beacuse "echo abc" runs as root, but the "> abc" bit runs as you
[09:56] <tamp4x> nyone? down grade from x64 to i386?
[09:56] <dennis_> in terninal wnd how do i get to my cd
[09:56] <LastChance> sasalli: yes, 10gb should be perfect.
[09:56] <sasalli> ok
[09:56] <Seveas> tamp4x, you'll need to reinstall
[09:56] <LastChance> dennis_: type cd /media/cdrom/
[09:56] <sasalli> i going to work
[09:56] <programcode> Hello room... do you guys like XGL on Ubuntu? Yes or No
[09:56] <gatekeeper> tamp4x, you need to reinstall
[09:57] <ColonelPanic001> Anyone use both evolution and gaim ?
[09:57] <Seveas> programcode, do you really expect 850 answer?
[09:57] <dooglus> gilianima: you can use   sudo bash -c 'echo abc > abc'   to run the whole thing as root
[09:57] <jon_> is there anyway to make a .zip file tar.gz?
[09:57] <ardchoille> programcode: That question really isn't a support question and can draw an argument.
[09:57] <Seveas> !xgl > programcode
[09:57] <Mr_Magic> programcode: no, I don't understand why people install xgl anyway
[09:57] <ColonelPanic001> programcode, it's very very pretty, but for me was a bit unstable
[09:57] <programcode> I love XGL, I think it runs jumpy without
[09:58] <ColonelPanic001> good for showing people, then switching back
[09:58] <ColonelPanic001> heh
[09:58] <Seveas> ColonelPanic001, indeeed
[09:58] <digitalpenguin> ya to bad you cant run XGL on a SIS card
[09:58] <Awesome-o2000> how can I turn on auto rejoin when kicked in xchat
[09:58] <programcode> Yeah
[09:58] <dooglus> programcode: I did a survery earlier.  203 liked it, 432 didn't, 150 hated it, and one thought it was a brand of motor oil.
[09:58] <tamp4x> cant i jsut download an i386 kernel and recompile
[09:58] <ColonelPanic001> maybe as it matures
[09:58] <] GD> hmm... i'm still having trouble figuring out where GRUB shuld be...so i tried the first method of recovering Ubuntu from !grub... installing from the Install CD(not live CD) actually.. i used the live CD but pressed f6  and then entered "boot: rescue" I'm assuming at that point... grub should load, right? because it asks to choose language.. but nothing is displayed on screen.
[09:58] <Seveas> tamp4x, no
[09:58] <programcode> LOL DOOGLUS
[09:58] <tamp4x> or is there some time of netboot
[09:58] <LastChance> Is there anyone here who has experience installing Azureus?
[09:58] <tamp4x> type
[09:58] <tamp4x> instead of time
[09:58] <Seveas> tamp4x, you'll need to reinstall. period.
[09:59] <dooglus> LastChance: yes.
[09:59] <bobbyd> LastChance, do you have weirdness like popups not going away?
[09:59] <ColonelPanic001> sorry for a slightly n00b question, but I just don't see the point of Evoluton and Gaim syncing, but I know there must be one. It doesn't seem to do anything here...
[09:59] <Awesome-o2000> how can I turn on auto rejoin when kicked in xchat
[09:59] <LastChance> My install isn't working properly. Yes, popups that won't go away, and the main window won't initialise.
[09:59] <dooglus> LastChance: if your popups won't go away, get the latest beta
[09:59] <Seveas> !repeat > Awesome-o2000
[09:59] <programcode> Hey dooglus: would you be able to assit me with a problem with playing videos?
[09:59] <Awesome-o2000> I see. its bad of me to ask questions now.
[10:00] <bayzider> can some one show me how to mount my ipod so i can update it with gtk pod
[10:00] <ColonelPanic001> er4z0r, nm, I'm sorry. I restarted Evolution, contacts showed up. heh, nm
[10:00] <dooglus> programcode: sorry, I only do stupid surveys.  I'm currently asking ##windows what their favourite linux distro is.
[10:00] <ColonelPanic001> dooglus, lol
[10:00] <Seveas> dooglus, ROFL
[10:00] <ardchoille> Awesome-o2000: Perhaps ask that in #xchat ?
[10:00] <dooglus> programcode: oh go on then, since it's you.  what's up?
[10:00] <ColonelPanic001> ask them the vi vs. emacs pool
[10:00] <ColonelPanic001> er4z0r, poll
[10:00] <programcode> dooglus: look at the video in this screenshot http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l311/programcode/Screenshot-1.png
[10:00] <ardchoille> dooglus: LOL!
[10:00] <ColonelPanic001> stupid auto completetion >.<
[10:00] <programcode> it is in three, and I can't get it to fix
[10:00] <dooglus> ColonelPanic001: it's not funny to make jokes about people's religion ;)
[10:00] <ColonelPanic001> lol
[10:00] <ColonelPanic001> Yes it is.
[10:00] <Stormx2> how do I save the results of a command line program to a file? It is interactive but text-based.
[10:01] <ColonelPanic001> Stormx2, "command >> file.txt"
[10:01] <dooglus> Stormx2: type "script" and hit return.  then run the program.  then type "exit"
[10:01] <Blissex> Stormx2: try 'man script'
[10:01] <ColonelPanic001> er4z0r, sorry. Interactive
[10:01] <bayzider> where is the ipod mounted?
[10:01] <dooglus> ColonelPanic001: that >> will hide the output
[10:01] <LastChance> colonelpanic001: I've chosen to ignore both of them and have stuck with nano. :P
[10:01] <ColonelPanic001> buuuut... script? interesting
[10:01] <programcode> dooglus: did you get the link
[10:02] <AllenA> bayzider: by default /media/ipod
[10:02] <dooglus> ColonelPanic001: 'script' will log everything (input and output and typing mistakes) to a file called 'typescript' in the current directory.
[10:02] <ColonelPanic001> dooglus, there was a program to address that... can't remember the name. nevermind though
[10:02] <ColonelPanic001> dooglus, that is awesome, must remember that
[10:02] <ardchoille> dooglus , Blissex : Thank you very much. I didn't know about script until you spoke up :)
[10:02] <dooglus> programcode: yes, but I'm too busy being a smartass to visit it yet
[10:02] <bayzider> yeah but when i try to read it with gtk pod i get a error some thing about itunesdb
[10:02] <sasalli> I can't edit partitions
[10:02] <jon_> does anyone know of any virsuses on linux?
[10:02] <eternalswd> does anyone know of a program like TaskSwitchXP for Gnome?
[10:02] <bayzider> XD viruses and linux
[10:02] <bayzider> lawl
[10:02] <sddsdsdds> does anyone has experience with firewire 800 hdd's in ubuntu?
[10:02] <dooglus> jon_: there are a few, but not widespread.  google for them.
[10:02] <programcode> jon_ I know of one, its called YOU :))
[10:03] <ColonelPanic001> there's been viruses for linux. I couldn't name any, though
[10:03] <ardchoille> jon_: virus? What's that? lol
[10:03] <djm62> jon_: if you're prepared to much around with wine ;)
[10:03] <jon_> im just curious
[10:03] <Seveas> !virus
[10:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about virus - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:03] <Seveas> !search virus
[10:03] <ubotu> Found: antivirus, linux virus
[10:03] <AllenA> bayzider: that error jis common, should still work
[10:03] <digitalpenguin> virus=windows
[10:03] <Seveas> !linux virus
[10:03] <ubotu> The short life and hard times of a Linux Virus http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[10:03] <Megaqwerty> When doing a dual boot installation, do I want my Uubuntu to be a primary or logical partition? (My other one is Windows XP)
[10:03] <programcode> !search ubuntu
[10:03] <bayzider> it just dosent do any thing it gives me the error i click ok then it wont let me click read
[10:03] <ubotu> Found: shop, frostwire, desktops, gr, #ops-kubuntu, binarydriver, laptop, #kubuntu, pbuffer-#ubuntu-xgl, usplash (and 290 more)
[10:03] <eternalswd> basically I just want a program that gives access to the tasklist that stays until I select a task
[10:03] <Chousuke> Megaqwerty: shouldn't matter.
[10:03] <Megaqwerty> which do you suggest?
[10:03] <programcode> !#ubuntu-xgl
[10:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about #ubuntu-xgl - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:04] <Seveas> !forget #ops-kubuntu
[10:04] <ubotu> I've forgotten it
[10:04] <Chousuke> Megaqwerty: primary is always good.
[10:04] <Megaqwerty> ok, thanks
[10:04] <programcode> !search ubuntu xp
[10:04] <ubotu> Found nothing
[10:04] <Phoul> Anyone know the name of the app that lets me change the defualt apps
[10:04] <dooglus> programcode: is that 'totem' you're using?  I've never managed to get that to work well.  'mplayer' rocks my world, for anything I want to play
[10:04] <Seveas> !fising > programcode
[10:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about fising  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:04] <Seveas> !fishing > programcode
[10:04] <Phoul> I wanna change my default web browser
[10:04] <AllenA> bayzider: if you type df does it show up ?
[10:04] <Awesome-o2000> Seveas, please kick me to test if this works?
[10:04] <bayzider> ok i click sync and it gives me this
[10:04] <bayzider> iPod directory structure must be present before synching to the iPod can be performed.
[10:04] <Seveas> Phoul, system  prefs  default apps
[10:04] <programcode> dooglus:Yeah it is, I try with mplayer on that video, just get sound no video
[10:04] <andy> can someone point me to the dns hosts file ? i would like to manually add my primary dns servers ip although ic ant remember where to find the conf file :)
[10:04] <Awesome-o2000> damnit.
[10:04] <dooglus> eternalswd: did you see gnome's window list things?
[10:05] <dennis_> i cant get this to work
[10:05] <Chousuke> Awesome-o2000: that wasn't a kick, btw. :)
[10:05] <ColonelPanic001> andy, /etc/hosts.resolv
[10:05] <Chousuke> meh
[10:05] <AllenA> bayzider: is there anything on your ipod?
[10:05] <dooglus> programcode: I'd ask for a URL to the video so I could try it, but I'm not near my linux box at the mo
[10:05] <sasalli> who can help me.
[10:05] <eternalswd> dooglus, where do I look that up?
[10:05] <ColonelPanic001> crap, andy, nm. I think that was a debian location
[10:05] <ColonelPanic001> not ubuntu
[10:05] <andy> thanks ColonelPanic001
[10:05] <tony_> hi everyone
[10:05] <dooglus> eternalswd: right-click on the panel, say 'add to panel' and choose 'window list' or 'window selector' or something like that - I forget which.
[10:05] <jon_> interesting
[10:05] <Mr_Magic> dooglus: if you do a poll about media players, add my favorite to mplayer too, just in case ;-0
[10:05] <LastChance> Wow. I've just wasted 2 hours trying to fix Azureus, because Ubuntu decided to use a broken version of Azureus in their repository.
[10:06] <ardchoille> Seveas: lol, all too happy to oblige him? hehe
[10:06] <tony_> i have just install ubuntu , but how do i get my intel wireles 2100 to work ?
[10:06] <programcode> dooglus: See the problem I think it is, is that I had to install the win32 codecs in order to play it, any suggestions besides installing them on how to player it
[10:06] <bayzider> its got ipod linux i sycned it on windows but the music isnt there on the apple frim ware  just podzilla
[10:06] <dooglus> Mr_Magic: the current winner is "WMP", whatever that is
[10:06] <jon_> what does azureus do?
[10:06] <jon_> is it bittorrent or something?
[10:06] <acojlo> I use slmodemd and gnome-ppp. It dials but can not get trhough login pass
[10:06] <bayzider> its a bittorent client
[10:06] <dooglus> jon_: it's a bittorrent client.
[10:06] <LastChance> Azureus lets you download files from bittorrent.
[10:06] <jon_> right on
[10:06] <ColonelPanic001> it is a very nice bittorent client
[10:06] <jon_> is mldonkey good?
[10:06] <Mr_Magic> dooglus: motor oil I think
[10:06] <dooglus> jon_: it's a big memory-hungry java bittorrent monster.
[10:06] <LastChance> "nice" as long as you have plenty of memory.
[10:06] <tony_> anyone can guide me how to get the wireless to work ?
[10:06] <LastChance> dooglus: exactly.
[10:06] <ColonelPanic001> dooglus wins!
[10:06] <jon_> whats the best way to get music?
[10:06] <qwerty2k> buy it?
[10:06] <eternalswd> dooglus, I already have that, I want something that pops up in a window until I select the program with the mouse.  That way I can save panel space and bring up the program with wayv
[10:06] <ColonelPanic001> jon_, from a CD
[10:07] <Awesome-o2000> nope
[10:07] <jon_> yea
[10:07] <jon_> whats the second best?
[10:07] <bayzider> tony go to the ubuntu documention on its site
[10:07] <LastChance> Jon_: depends on whether you're looking for albums, or individual tracks.
[10:07] <jon_> albums
[10:07] <jon_> definately
[10:07] <ColonelPanic001> jon_, from a cassette tape
[10:07] <LastChance> Albums, well, bittorrent is good for that.
[10:07] <Awesome-o2000> I tried /set irc_auto_rejoin On but it didnt work
[10:07] <dooglus> eternalswd: check again - there are 2 options - one is what you have, and the other is a small icon that gives a menu when you click in
[10:07] <tony_> bazider , erm thanks
[10:07] <qwerty2k> i would suggest a pay-for service, but its probably not elgal in your country
[10:07] <jon_> fourth best, assuming vinyl is third
[10:07] <Awesome-o2000> hey
[10:07] <Seveas> yes it does work, that was a real kick ;)
[10:07] <Awesome-o2000> did it work
[10:07] <Awesome-o2000> right on , thank you
[10:08] <ic56> for two days now, ca.archive.ubuntu.com appears down.  is this a known problem?
[10:08] <AllenA> torrents ftw
[10:08] <Seveas> Awesome-o2000, if you want autorejoin to work for /remove too, google for chanserv.py and put that file in ~/.xchat/
[10:08] <qwerty2k> usenet > torrents
[10:08] <LastChance> oh my god, load average has just past 4 and is climbing!
[10:08] <ardchoille> Seveas: I was just about to ask if auto-rejoin worked with /remove
[10:08] <LastChance> Azureus, you memory-hoarding monster.
[10:08] <ColonelPanic001> I once had a server with a load average of around 40
[10:08] <ColonelPanic001> heh
[10:09] <LastChance> Poor laptop.
[10:09] <ColonelPanic001> that's my "top"
[10:09] <digitalpenguin> Are there widgets for gnome?
[10:09] <qwerty2k> gdesklets
[10:09] <jon_> i have 24G left
[10:09] <qwerty2k> (spelling)
[10:09] <jon_> how big is ubuntu?
[10:09] <sasalli> can anyone edit my partitions with remote desktop?
[10:09] <andy> ColonelPanic001, i couldnt find a host file for the dns, closest in dapper i could see was hosts.conf ?
[10:09] <ColonelPanic001> qwerty2k, is correct
[10:09] <Seveas> jon_, 24 square miles
[10:09] <gilianima> dooglus: thanks (a little bit late sorry)
[10:09] <LastChance> jon_: anywhere between 4gb and 10gb usually.
[10:09] <Zaff> I'm having a problem booting my ubuntu kernel
[10:09] <Seveas> (silly questions get silly answers)
[10:09] <LastChance> jon_: although mine has spilled out into 16GB.
[10:09] <ColonelPanic001> andy, yeah, I'm sorry man. I know it in Debian, but I don't know it in ubuntu
[10:09] <jon_> how big is windows?
[10:10] <andy> ok
[10:10] <LastChance> jon_: you should really know yourself, but it's about 4GB.
[10:10] <dooglus> gilianima: alternatively, "sudo -s" or "sudo -i" to get a root shell - then everything you do runs as root
[10:10] <AllenA> about 2.5 gb
[10:10] <Nathan1993> Can anyone direct me to the config files for sytax highlighting in Gedit?
[10:10] <andy> ipv6 just isnt flying. does anyone know which conf file to manually add a dns ip ?
[10:10] <Megaqwerty> in the dual boot installation, the shared partition is just for files I may want to share between both My XP and Ubuntu installation right?
[10:10] <Zaff> grub loads up, and i select to boot in ubuntu, and then it goes through the stuff afterwards, but the last line is something like Checking ubuntu...ok, booting kernel
[10:10] <Zaff> then it just stops
[10:10] <Seveas> andy, /etc/hosts
[10:10] <dooglus> Nathan1993: GNOME programs don't have configuration - it confuses the user.  the configuration is already exactly how you need it to be
[10:11] <gilianima> Seveas, dooglus: What becomes 'echo "abc" | sudo tee abc' if instead of > in 'sudo echo "abc" > abc', I had >> to write the standard input at the end of a file ?
[10:11] <Nathan1993> dooglus:No, I use a different version of BASIC that VB, so I want to edit it to my needs.
[10:11] <programcode> Seveas: are you like admin of this room or something?
[10:11] <Seveas> gilianima, instead of tee you'd use tee -a
[10:11] <dooglus> gilianima: "man tee" - but I think "-a" is for "append"
[10:11] <Seveas> programcode, yes
[10:11] <gilianima> dooglus: ok, i'll go for sudo -s then
[10:11] <programcode> Seveas: May I ask how you are?
[10:12] <Seveas> you may
[10:12] <ardchoille> haha
[10:12] <programcode> Seveas: How are you admin of this room?
[10:12] <Zaff> >_> Can ANYONE spare enough time to help me?  :(
[10:12] <Seveas> programcode, busy 
[10:12] <Otacon22> hem someone can help me??? I have a simple problem... I don't know how to specify to patch command what file I want to patch, here you can see http://rafb.net/paste/results/XyRODt62.html , I want to patch the second file: alsa-driver-0.9.6/Makefile
[10:12] <tony_> how do i get my intel 2100 to work on ubuntu ? i am new to it
[10:13] <Megaqwerty> in the dual boot installation, the shared partition is just for files I may want to share between both My XP and Ubuntu installation right?
[10:13] <godtvisken> Has anyone here used EasyTag? I am wondering what the color coding means..
[10:13] <richard> !wifi
[10:13] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:13] <slew> how do i unzip a bz2 file from the commandline?
[10:13] <gatekeeper> !ask > Zaff
[10:13] <ic56> andy: /etc/hosts .  It's the same in all versions of Linux.
[10:13] <tony_> thanks dude
[10:13] <Blissex> slew: 'man bunzip2' and/or 'man tar'
[10:13] <Seveas> slew, bunzip2 filename
[10:13] <Seveas> gatekeeper, he asked already ;)
[10:14] <Megaqwerty> anyone?
[10:14] <gatekeeper> Zaff, Seveas sorry must have missed that :-(
[10:14] <dooglus> Otacon22: you need to use the correct -p option.  do you have a 'alsa-driver-0.9.6' directory?
[10:14] <programcode> LAUGHS:)
[10:14] <Zaff> k, so my dual boot pc wont load the ubuntu half
[10:14] <Zaff> i boot up the pc
[10:14] <Zaff> grub loads up
[10:15] <Seveas> Megaqwerty, you can use a usb stick instead of a shared partition, but yeah
[10:15] <Zaff> i choose to boot ubuntu
[10:15] <slew> Seveas, thanks
[10:15] <Otacon22> dooglus, no
[10:15] <Megaqwerty> ok, thanks
[10:15] <Zaff> it rambles off a few lines
[10:15] <ColonelPanic001> ubuntulog, I CHOOSE YOU!
[10:15] <Zaff> the last one ending with ...ok, booting kernel
[10:15] <ColonelPanic001> DAMN YOU COMPLETION
[10:15] <Seveas> ColonelPanic001, ?
[10:15] <andy> yeah ive got it here although dapper seems to have some bit in there... how should i format a dns ip entry ? previously i have just put the ip only in there although it doesnt seem to like it.
[10:15] <dooglus> Otacon22: if you don't have the alsa-driver-0.9.6 source, you can't patch its Makefile...
[10:15] <corpxicle> hello
[10:15] <Zaff> then after that it just sits there
[10:15] <Zaff> whats wrong with my computer?
[10:15] <corpxicle> im using ubuntu on a pegasos ( PPC ) and its been working perfectly
[10:15] <corpxicle> however
[10:15] <Zaff> should i uninstall fs drive?
[10:15] <andy> im vnc'd into another box as i cannot seem to run any services to connect outside the router from this machine.
[10:15] <ColonelPanic001> Can we be friends now? :P
[10:16] <Seveas> Zaff, hmm... a lot it seems... have you tried ubuntu recovery mode?
[10:16] <bucky1> how do i add/remove some of the services started on boot?...for instance, it starts a bluetooth service, but i dont have any bluetooth hardware
[10:16] <gatekeeper> Zaff, partitions look ok?
[10:16] <Otacon22> dooglus, but patch command speak clearly: I have to shoose 2 possibility!
[10:16] <Dodzey> im getting a compilation error i haven't got a clue how to fix when trying to compile 'onestroke' could someone help?
[10:16] <Zaff> i did seveas
[10:16] <Otacon22> *choose
[10:16] <Seveas> !compiling > Dodzey
[10:16] <corpxicle> recently it has started hanging/crashing and applications such as firefox and synaptic has started crashing
[10:16] <jetblack> Hi all, quick question (hopefully): I have an external firewire hard drive formatted as hfsplus. I would like to mount it automatically on system boot. Is there any way to do that with hfsplus compiled as a module, or will I have to compile it in statically?
[10:16] <Seveas> Zaff, and it doesn't say *any* more lines?
[10:16] <ic56> andy: first of all, this is *not* dns.
[10:16] <dooglus> Otacon22: no, I don't think it's asking you to chose anything - it's telling you its can't find alsa-driver-0.9.6/Makefile
[10:16] <Dodzey> seveas: ive already looked there...
[10:16] <gr3ml> How does the kernel map hw NICs to ethN devices?  It appears like my NIC jumps dev number on each reboot (eth0, eth1, eth2, etc)
[10:16] <corpxicle> any idea if recent updates for PPC ubuntu are broken ?
[10:16] <corpxicle> something to do with gnome perhaps
[10:16] <dennis_> whoever wants to help with my unreal prob come to #dennis
[10:17] <dooglus> Otacon22: then it's asking you to type the path to the file, if you know it.
[10:17] <digitalpenguin> can anyone help me with installing gdesklets i get this error when i try to run ./configure checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[10:17] <acojlo> how to get rid of avahi daemon?
[10:17] <ic56> : /etc/hosts is the pre-DNS unix method of hostname-to-IP mapping.
[10:17] <dooglus> Otacon22: I think you'll be needing the alsa-driver-0.9.6 source before you can apply that patch
[10:17] <Seveas> acojlo, remove the package
[10:17] <Zaff> as far as i can tell the partitions are fine gatekeeper
[10:17] <ic56> andy: /etc/hosts is the pre-DNS unix method of hostname-to-IP mapping.
[10:17] <jpatota> bucky1: look in your menus
[10:17] <jpatota> bucky1: of gnome that is
[10:17] <chainlynx> hey does anyone know if there's a built in ftp command to upload multiple files recursively to a server???
[10:17] <chainlynx> ubuntu server, of course
[10:17] <dennis_> sry #dennis_
[10:17] <ardchoille> digitalpenguin: Is there a reason you are compiling it instead of installing it from the repos?
[10:17] <acojlo> thnks Seveas
[10:17] <andy> yeah ok go that then. how do i point this to use the rewters dns ?
[10:17] <ic56> andy: as for its format, here's a sample line from mine:  85.133.25.7      ca.archive.ubuntu.com  ubuntu-ca
[10:18] <jpatota> bucky1: there should be something in administration (i think) that controls services
[10:18] <digitalpenguin> im new to linux so whats up
[10:18] <Mr_Magic> chainlynx: ftp
[10:18] <ColonelPanic001> digitalpenguin, welcome to linux, then
[10:18] <gatekeeper> Zaff, does it pass mounting the root file system, or is that where it bugs out?
[10:18] <digitalpenguin> how do i install it from the repos
[10:18] <MoNkUnClE> i am trying to get VMware working under Ubuntu ,it works fine,i can get to load the disk in settings that i want,but when i try to boot i get an error 17 from Grub,i am using a Ubuntu 6.06 Host and trying to boot WinXP Physical/Raw disk that already exists on the same disc that Ubuntu exists on,in different partition,i don't want to reinstall WinXP i want to use the existing WinXp i already have,is this possible???
[10:18] <Seveas> digitalpenguin, applications  add/remove
[10:18] <Seveas> and search for gdesklets
[10:18] <Zaff> Gatekeeper, i'm pretty sure it mounts the root file system
[10:18] <Zaff> and its not bugging out or anything
[10:18] <Seveas> MoNkUnClE, no that's not really possible
[10:18] <digitalpenguin> thank you all for the welcome
[10:18] <digitalpenguin> and ill try that seveas
[10:18] <ic56> andy: oh.  what do you mean the router's dns?  Is the router a DNS server? (seems unlikely)
[10:19] <Zaff> it just sits there after trying to boot the kernel
[10:19] <andy> no its not..
[10:19] <Seveas> Zaff, mounting the rootfs is later in the boot process. there should be quite a few messages before that
[10:19] <andy> router doesnt like ipv6
[10:19] <tang^> Seveas: used to be possible
[10:19] <dennis_> some one come help me pls
[10:19] <Stormx2> I used script to record the results of a command to a file... where is the file saved?
[10:19] <ic56> andy: what does IPv6 have to do with DNS?!
[10:19] <dooglus> Stormx2: "typescript" in the current directory
[10:19] <bucky1> jpatota: there is, but it only lists, printer services, login manager, logging services, and cron services...
[10:19] <[Wiebel] > hmmz
[10:19] <Zaff> Seveas: is the rootfs before or after booting the kernel?
[10:19] <ardchoille> digitalpenguin: It's always best to check the repos for a certain app before compiling, IMHO
[10:19] <dooglus> Stormx2: "exit" first
[10:19] <[Wiebel] > does the tftpd package need inetd?
[10:19] <jpatota> MoNkUnClE: i dont think so
[10:19] <Seveas> Zaff, a long time after
[10:19] <[Wiebel] > and if so
[10:19] <Seveas> [Wiebel] , yes
[10:19] <[Wiebel] > what inetd package should I use?
[10:19] <Zaff> oh, well it doesnt even get that far
[10:20] <Seveas> [Wiebel] , inetutils-inetd or netkit-inetd
[10:20] <Zaff> there might be ten lines of white text on the black screen before it just stops
[10:20] <[Wiebel] > Seveas: ok, i have inetutitls-inetd installed
[10:20] <jpatota> MoNkUnClE: i think vmware only uses its special .vmk something immages
[10:20] <[Wiebel] > but there is no inetd.conf
[10:20] <Dodzey> seveas: ive read and re-read the compiling page on the wiki...still having trouble
[10:20] <tang^> MoNkUnClE: I think you need to have ntloader booting the system instead of grub for a raw partition to actually work
[10:20] <digitalpenguin> ive never installed anything on here really so this is a first
[10:20] <Zaff> the cursor is still blinking, but nothing else happens
[10:20] <[Wiebel] > where should I config it ?
[10:20] <jetblack> ah well, I'll just try recompiling
[10:20] <Seveas> Dodzey, post the compile errors on the pastebin
[10:20] <digitalpenguin> i got this error trying to install from there : E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[10:20] <fistandantilus> im at a loss here, laptop get internet wirelessly from eth1, eth0 is connected to a hub with another machine on it im trying to get ICS working on, when laptop boots i have no DNS to the internet but can ping,ssh, etc the secondary computer.. i remove the DNS ip from the wireless networking and but the SAME one back in and i get internet/DNS but cant ping the other machine anymore, anyone understand whats going on?
[10:20] <ic56> andy: sounds like you are really confused.  Let's start from the beginning.  What is the nature of the problem?  What doesn't work?
[10:20] <Seveas> digitalpenguin, do what it says...
[10:21] <MoNkUnClE> lol
[10:21] <athanacius> hola
[10:21] <[Wiebel] > Seveas: any idea?
[10:21] <Seveas> [Wiebel] , /etc/inetd.conf
[10:21] <athanacius> alguien me puede ayudar?
[10:21] <[Wiebel] > Seveas: does not exist
[10:21] <Seveas> !es
[10:21] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:21] <[Wiebel] > dpkg -L doesnt show it either
[10:21] <jpatota> bucky1: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Speed_up_boot
[10:21] <Seveas> [Wiebel] , creaete it 
[10:21] <digitalpenguin> so in the terminal i need to run dpkg --configure -a
[10:21] <athanacius> ok
[10:21] <ic56> andy: I don't have a lot of time.  So hurry up with your responses.
[10:21] <Zaff> BRB
[10:21] <Seveas> digitalpenguin, put sudo before taht
[10:22] <[Wiebel] > Seveas: Seveas I kinda hoped it was created for me :P
[10:22] <digitalpenguin> ya i know that much so far
[10:22] <Dodzey> seveas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19890
[10:22] <gatekeeper> Zaff, I wounder if badblocks would reveal anything on your ubuntu partition
[10:22] <andy> beats me. ok. i am on a laptop. fresh dapper alternative install. wifi works. i can ping the nsa no probs.. problem is, mozilla wont load a page. just says connecting. i had this problem with 2 ubuntu servers ive got running here (which ive vnc'd onto to use irc to get help as i can only connect to local machines) anyway, the servers had the same problem, caused me to scrap ubuntu for a year, worked out all i had to do was add the routers ip
[10:22] <andy> 192.168.1.1 to a "host" config file to get them working..
[10:22] <Seveas> Dodzey, sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev
[10:23] <revmouse> In ubuntu and kubuntu, setting up your system to access your desktop remotely is simple. What software package do I need to install to set up a simple user friendly VNC server like I can in Ubuntu with Xubuntu?
[10:23] <punker> Hi, anybody could help me with xorg.conf and modeline option ?  (LCD screen resizes what nvidia drivers show)
[10:23] <andy> where is the hosts file that i touched ?
[10:23] <ic56> andy: ping the nsa?  What is nsa?
[10:23] <andy> its an example url
[10:23] <bucky1> jpatota: thanks
[10:23] <digitalpenguin> seveas i got an error
[10:23] <Dodzey> seveas: already got it
[10:24] <digitalpenguin> dependency error
[10:24] <jpatota> MoNkUnClE: try http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Windows for ntfs
[10:24] <andy> ie i can ping an external address, although mozilla wont actially load a page.
[10:24] <mwe> andy: /etc/hosts
[10:24] <Seveas> digitalpenguin, fix your sources.list then. paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 has a good one for dapper
[10:24] <MoNkUnClE> jpatota thx
[10:24] <digitalpenguin> you lost me
[10:25] <andy> yeah but what do i put in /etc/hosts/ i tired my routers ip along although i assume it needs a flag of some sort to define that ip
[10:25] <ic56> andy: show me the ping command you tried successfully on your laptop
[10:25] <punker> nobody knows how to set the line Modeline in xorg.conf ?
[10:25] <dooglus> andy: can you ping external hosts by name?  or only by ip address?
[10:25] <Zooliegsm> hi all
[10:25] <Zooliegsm> i want to extract ace archives
[10:25] <andy> ping www.google.com
[10:25] <Zooliegsm> what i need to dl?
[10:25] <Seveas> !find ace
[10:25] <ubotu> Found: dnstracer, gstreamer0.10-plugins-good, iputils-tracepath, kfilereplace, kspaceduel (and 98 others)
[10:25] <Seveas> !find unace
[10:25] <ubotu> Found: unace
[10:26] <Seveas> !info unace
[10:26] <ubotu> unace: extract, test and view .ace archives. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.2b-3 (dapper), package size 14 kB, installed size 80 kB
[10:26] <andy> 231 ms.
[10:26] <Seveas> Zooliegsm, -_^
[10:26] <digitalpenguin> seveas i dont know what that ment
[10:26] <jpatota> punker: http://www.johnpatota.com/FC3/index.htm#VideoDrivers
[10:26] <dooglus> andy: what if you try visiting www.google.com in a browser?  does that work?
[10:26] <mwe> andy: I think it sounds odd you need to add your router to the hosts file though
[10:26] <andy> no
[10:27] <ic56> andy: if "ping www.google.com" worked, then your problem isn't with /etc/hosts or DNS.  Mozilla's freezing probably has to do with either the wifi link failing intermittently or the length of the transmission unit being wrong.
[10:27] <jpatota> punker: this may not all apply to you because i detail how to configure modlines and cards for my particular laptop
[10:27] <dooglus> andy: what if you try "telnet www.google.com 80" in a terminal?
[10:27] <MoNkUnClE> jpatota is that safe though,will it corrupt your ntfs partition???
[10:27] <jpatota> punker: but theres some useful links i reference
[10:27] <alienseer23> hello
[10:27] <mwe> andy: I have heard of this problem before
[10:27] <andy> technically that worked
[10:28] <ic56> mwe: andy doesn't need to add the router to the hosts file.  He's just confused.
[10:28] <Zooliegsm> Seveas thx it says already installed,but i cant extract it with nautilus...sugg?
[10:28] <dooglus> andy: it connected?
[10:28] <alienseer23> I am trying to find the install directory for azureus, can anyone help me out?
[10:28] <mwe> ic56: I know
[10:28] <andy> didnt ask for a login although it conencted.
[10:28] <mwe> ic56: I have heard of the problem before, being able to ping but not surf though
[10:28] <jpatota> MoNkUnClE: honestly ive never really played around with that sort of stuff extensivly
[10:28] <andy> dont be unhelpful ic
[10:28] <mwe> ic56: I think it turned out to be proxy related
[10:28] <Dodzey> Zooliegsm: my guess is that unace won't work within nautilus, try unace <filename>
[10:29] <punker> jpatota : thanks for the link :)
[10:29] <Zaff> yafk
[10:29] <MoNkUnClE> jpatota ok thanks,i'll look into it
[10:29] <Zooliegsm> l,
[10:29] <IcemanV9> telnet is not disabled in ubuntu??
[10:29] <dooglus> andy: it's not supposed to ask for a login - it's a web server
[10:29] <andy> either way it works
[10:29] <Zooliegsm> ok i try.......i dloading xarchive i hope it will know that
[10:29] <dooglus> IcemanV9: there's no telnet daemon shipped, but the client is there
[10:29] <andy> what could i play with re the wifi car d?
[10:29] <scottevil> iceman: telnetd should probably be disabled, but the client should be avail
[10:30] <dooglus> andy: next thing to try: "wget -O- www.google.com"
[10:30] <mwe> IcemanV9: the telnet command is there but the is no telnet server listening
[10:30] <IcemanV9> interesting. thanks. didn't realize that.
[10:30] <digitalpenguin> i am having a problem with gdesklets http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19891
[10:30] <scottevil> iceman: you can use telnet to talk to other non-telnet ports, like webservers
[10:30] <mwe> IcemanV9: it's usuful for all sorts of things, including debugging a remote mail server
[10:31] <Dodzey> seveas: any ideas regarding the ld error im getting?
[10:31] <GTX-Laptop> I'm going to re-install windows in 10 minutes ( want to play Steam Counter Strike Source ) But how can I do it so it doesnt override grub
[10:31] <alienseer23> please, I need to update a file in the default azureus directory but canot find it, can someone help?
[10:31] <jpatota> GTX-Laptop: it will no matter what
[10:31] <fistandantilus> im at a loss here, laptop gets internet wirelessly from eth1, eth0 is connected to a hub with another machine on it im trying to get ICS working on, when laptop boots i have no DNS to the internet but can ping,ssh, etc the secondary computer.. i remove the DNS ip from the wireless networking and put the SAME one back in and i get internet/DNS but cant ping the other machine anymore, anyone understand whats going on?
[10:31] <jpatota> GTX-Laptop: you need to reinstall grub once windows is installed
[10:31] <dooglus> alienseer23: run "locate Azureus2.jar"
[10:31] <jpatota> to overwrite the boot.ini
[10:31] <GTX-Laptop> ok jpatota, so how do I reinstall grub once its removed it
[10:31] <steveO_> alienseer23: updatedb and then locate azureus
[10:31] <ardchoille> !grub
[10:31] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:32] <steveO_> should do it.
[10:32] <dooglus> alienseer23: if that doesn't find it, run "sudo updatedb" and try again
[10:32] <_Spire_> Is there any way to get a list of the packages you've installed?
[10:32] <Tr3nt> Hello!
[10:32] <alienseer23> thank you spire :0
[10:32] <jpatota> GTX-Laptop: get a live cd, either knoppix or ubuntu
[10:32] <mwe> GTX-Laptop: the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows wiki explains it
[10:32] <alienseer23> :)
[10:32] <digitalpenguin> can anyone help me with my dependency problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19891
[10:32] <jpatota> GTX-Laptop: im looking for a good guide now
[10:32] <_Spire_> alienseer23: ?
[10:33] <kklaine> Hello. Is there a way to see the "default" /etc/modules? I deleted a line and forgot to take a backup. Thanks :(
[10:33] <acojlo> is there a way to use cpufreq scaling automaticaly if system become on battery and to stop using it if system goes on AC power. Is this possible with powernowd which is default at ubuntu?
[10:33] <txcspdrmn> server newyork.ny.us.undernet.org
[10:33] <GTX-Laptop> jpatota, can I install windows on another partition? it need to be on another hdd?
[10:33] <Linuturk> I got a problem. Whenever I log out of my session, and try to log back in, the system hangs completely. No harddrive activity or anything.
[10:33] <txcspdrmn> sorry-sticky keys
[10:34] <scottevil> tx: how'd that happen :)?
[10:34] <jpatota> GTX-Laptop: both partitions can be on the same drive
[10:34] <acojlo> how to tell powernowd to use 'performance' governor if system is booted on ac power?
[10:34] <jpatota> GTX-Laptop: but thats only if you left space when installing ubuntu
[10:34] <Tr3nt> How do I uninstall Ubuntu and reinstall Windows 98?
[10:34] <Otacon22> dooglus, do you know if exist a grafic program for use bluetooth headset?
[10:35] <Tr3nt>  How do I uninstall Ubuntu and reinstall Windows 98?
[10:35] <mgjs> _Spire_,  In Synaptic go to Settings > Filters and unmark all but "Installed", then push the "Custom" button in the lower left corner and choose "Search Filter". Then it should only show your installed packages
[10:35] <ardchoille> !repeat
[10:35] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:35] <_Spire_> mgjs: thanks
[10:35] <dooglus> Otacon22: no, sorry
[10:35] <Dodzey> Tr3nt: just run your windows install cd
[10:35] <scottevil> !patience
[10:35] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:35] <ic56> Tr3nt: get your windows CD boot from it and tell it to install
[10:35] <Tr3nt> Dodzey, I was kidding
[10:35] <help> how do i add windows into the grub boot list
[10:35] <_Spire_> Tr3nt: run windows install, tell it to erase your hd
[10:35] <jpatota> GTX-Laptop: you could resize your linux partitions but that gets messy
[10:35] <Tr3nt> I need KDE
[10:35] <ompaul> !offtopic > Tr3nt
[10:36] <alienseer23> ok, what is the command to move a file, i thought i knoew it...
[10:36] <[Wiebel] > apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:36] <dooglus> Tr3nt: good one.  it was so much funnier the 2nd time, too
[10:36] <alienseer23> sorry
[10:36] <dooglus> alienseer23: 'mv'
[10:36] <mwe> Tr3nt: so?
[10:36] <alienseer23> k
[10:36] <GTX-Laptop> ok jpatota, If I was to insert another hdd and install windows on that, would I install grub on the ubuntu hdd?
[10:36] <mgjs> _Spire_, You can also add a specific filter for installed packages by choosing "New" while in the Filters dialog and access it under the "Custom" button
[10:36] <mwe> Tr3nt: why don't you install KDE if you need it?
[10:36] <help> how do i add windows xp media center on a 2 hard drive into the grub boot list
[10:36] <_Spire_> help: try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22810
[10:36] <_Spire_> mgjs: thanks again L)
[10:36] <scottevil> help: edit menu.lst
[10:36] <Tr3nt> mwe - because i dont have the bandwidth to download it
[10:37] <help> i know what doi  add
[10:37] <mwe> Tr3nt: I can't help you with that ;)
[10:37] <fistandantilus> im at a loss here, laptop get internet wirelessly from eth1, eth0 is connected to a hub with another machine on it im trying to get ICS working on, when laptop boots i have no DNS to the internet but can ping,ssh, etc the secondary computer.. i remove the DNS ip from the wireless networking and but the SAME one back in and i get internet/DNS but cant ping the other machine anymore, anyone understand whats going on?
[10:37] <jpatota> GTX-Laptop: yes you will still need to reinstall grub because the windows install will overwrite it
[10:37] <acojlo> what ways exist to run windows programs?
[10:37] <scottevil> help: u mean, besides a title and the hard drive it is on?
[10:37] <redcard> So is there a way to get a complete package listing of all the packages I have installed?
[10:37] <jpatota> GTX-Laptop: if you install a second drive, make the windows one the slave
[10:37] <ian_> I urgently need to know what file gnome stores the list of programs I have set in the sessions applicaiton
[10:37] <[Wiebel] > Tr3nt: go some place where you have the bandwidth and download the kubuntu cd ?
[10:37] <Tr3nt> Oh yeah -- are there any emulation programs?
[10:37] <mwe> acojlo: wine, qemu or vmware
[10:37] <GTX-Laptop> ok jpatota thanks for your help matre :)
[10:37] <mgjs> redcard,  In Synaptic go to Settings > Filters and unmark all but "Installed", then push the "Custom" button in the lower left corner and choose "Search Filter". Then it should only show your installed packages
[10:37] <cybernetic_core> how can i reach init3 on ubuntu???on FC init3 shuts down X - on ubuntu not!!!!i need this to install nvidia drivers!!!!
[10:37] <acojlo> thanks mwe
[10:37] <mgjs> redcard, You can also add a specific filter for installed packages by choosing "New" while in the Filters dialog and access it under the "Custom" button
[10:37] <help> yeah i do not knw anything about hte grub
[10:37] <jpatota> GTX-Laptop: when you are installing windows be careful not to format your linux parition
[10:38] <digitalpenguin> my dpkg is trying to process redhat-cluster-suite after running the command sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:38] <Seveas> cybernetic_core, jeez dude, drop the !!!!
[10:38] <GTX-Laptop> lol jpatota i wont :p
[10:38] <AllenA> redcard: dpkg -l
[10:38] <jpatota> GTX-Laptop: if you want to be safe just remove the damn thing
[10:38] <mwe> acojlo: wine only works for a fraction though
[10:38] <ian_> I urgently need to know what file gnome stores the list of programs I have set in the sessions applicaiton
[10:38] <redcard> mgjs: I'm looking more for something that'll export into a file.. dpkg -l will do what I need
[10:38] <Tr3nt> Anyone know any good emulation programs?
[10:38] <GTX-Laptop> jpatota, good idea will do :)
[10:38] <Seveas> digitalpenguin, if that fails: reboot into the server kernel and try again
[10:38] <eternalswd> dooglus, just so you know I found the taskswitch program I've been looking for.  It's called skippy.  I now have everything I had in windblows in open source goodness :)
[10:38] <mwe> acojlo: but then you don't have to install windows in a virtual machine environment
[10:39] <jpatota> GTX-Laptop: but yeah, once windows is installed, make sure both drives are connected and follow the instructions for grub that was posted a short while ago
[10:39] <jpatota> GTX: you should be fine
[10:39] <Tr3nt> Is there such a thing as a "Run Windows Programs on Ubuntu" application?
[10:39] <dooglus> eternalswd: thanks for getting back to me with that.  I've not seen it, but will give it a go
[10:40] <jpatota> Tr3nt: wine
[10:40] <Seveas> !wine > Tr3nt
[10:40] <dooglus> Tr3nt: wine, cedega
[10:40] <Tr3nt> thanks
[10:40] <mwe> Tr3nt: I told you
[10:40] <mwe> Tr3nt: didn't I?
[10:40] <tck0> any1 here use audacious ?
[10:40] <eternalswd> dooglus, it's in the repos
[10:40] <mwe> Tr3nt: most programs don't work with wine though
[10:40] <redcard> Ugh.  No good podcast clients.
[10:41] <PhilippeK> hello everyone
[10:41] <mwe> Tr3nt: but notepad and solitaire does ;)
[10:41] <digitalpenguin> so seveas if dpkg cant run in here reboot into the kernal and try it again?
[10:41] <PhilippeK> i need some help about ekiga
[10:41] <Seveas> digitalpenguin, correct
[10:42] <PhilippeK> i cannot setup the sound
[10:42] <gr3ml> how can i clean out all networking settings (even down the the drivers) and start over?  dpkg-reconfigure netbase doesn't do what i expect/hope
[10:42] <PhilippeK> please help
[10:42] <heroin> i installed gnome-core via terminal.. so how do i start it?
[10:42] <dooglus> eternalswd: yes, I know.  I've just tried it, and it's quite nice.
[10:42] <Dodzey> Seveas: ive read and re-read the compilation wiki, but im still at a loss as to this compilation error
[10:42] <mwe> PhilippeK: I haven't used it. is it a general sound problem or ekiga related?
[10:42] <dooglus> eternalswd: shame it doesn't update the graphics though
[10:43] <digitalpenguin> serveas, how will that correct it though redhat-cluster-suite shouldnt be needed should it?
[10:43] <heroin> i installed gnome-core via terminal.. so how do i start it?
[10:43] <eternalswd> dooglus, I believe the graphics update for currently raised windows.
[10:43] <help> i will be back if this dose not work(grub menu stuff)
[10:43] <Seveas> digitalpenguin, you installed it...
[10:43] <wsjunior> how do i compile my kernel again on ubuntu after have modified things in menuconfig?
[10:43] <Awesome-o2000> well that was fun
[10:43] <PhilippeK> mwe: don't know in fact i have no sound with ekiga; but  the sound works fine on the computer
[10:43] <Seveas> !kernel > wsjunior
[10:43] <fnoo> Anyone else have problems with the repository-provided version of Azureus? Odd errors, warning windows that won't go away, etc.?
[10:43] <digitalpenguin> i didnt install the redhat-cluster-suite
[10:43] <wsjunior> Seveas: already tried that
[10:43] <wsjunior> Seveas: it didnt help
[10:43] <eternalswd> but I'm not complaining, I had the same issue with TaskSwitchXP
[10:43] <wsjunior> Seveas: could u help me?
[10:44] <dooglus> eternalswd: I see it's an option - Please note that the default skippy behaviour is *not* to update the
[10:44] <Seveas> wsjunior, then read it again...
[10:44] <dooglus> minatures, you can tune this by setting the autoRefresh option in your
[10:44] <mwe> PhilippeK: hmm.
[10:44] <PhilippeK> mwe: when i try to set the volume in ekiga i can't but i can do it with the ubuntu volue control
[10:44] <dooglus> skippyrc.
[10:44] <wsjunior> damn
[10:44] <eternalswd> dooglus, ooh, how do I fix it
[10:44] <wsjunior> Seveas: i did that more than 3 times and still cant compile my kernel, could u help me?
[10:44] <mwe> PhilippeK: you could test if it's esd related by running killall -9 esd in a terminal before running ekiga
[10:45] <heroin> i installed gnome-core via terminal.. so how do i start it?
[10:45] <whiter> how can i change my compiz theme?
[10:45] <mwe> PhilippeK: also if you run ekiga from a terminal it may spit out useful info to the console
[10:45] <dooglus> eternalswd: first "cp /etc/X11/skippy/skippyrc ~/.skippyrc" to copy the default config, then edit ~/.skippyrc
[10:45] <whiter> see i want this theme http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=42718
[10:45] <gnomefreak> whiter: ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[10:45] <whiter> but i dont know how to do it
[10:45] <digitalpenguin> seveas. how do i reboot into the kermal
[10:45] <wsjunior> Seveas: that link teachs to compile a new kernel.. i just want to modify some things in my running kernel..
[10:45] <Seveas> digitalpenguin, reboot and chooe the server kernel in the menu
[10:46] <digitalpenguin> thanks
[10:46] <digitalpenguin> brb
[10:46] <Seveas> wsjunior, that link also does that...
[10:46] <PhilippeK> mwe: i run it fro the menu; not from terminal
[10:46] <Dodzey> any ideas how to solve '/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXtst' compilation error
[10:46] <wsjunior> Seveas: no, it doesnt..
[10:46] <mwe> PhilippeK: I'm telling you to try what I suggest
[10:46] <Seveas> wsjunior, then you really should read better
[10:46] <unstablesob> where can i find out how to set the resolution of the console?
[10:46] <IRC_> im haveing a problem with tomcat 5.5. i installed everything correctly but whenever i go to http:localhost:8080 there is only a blank page. what do i do?
[10:46] <PhilippeK> mwe: i' trying it
[10:46] <Seveas> unstablesob, you set that in the boot menu
[10:46] <mwe> PhilippeK: from the terminal?
[10:47] <PhilippeK> yes
[10:47] <gnomefreak> whiter: did you not read what he says?
[10:47] <Seveas> eg, the parameter 'vga=791' will make it 1024x768
[10:47] <gnomefreak> whiter: open "compizthemer" and import my theme, than go to "edit>title buttons" and use my buttons.
[10:47] <UbuntuJulez> hello; i was wondering how I could change the permissions of an entire directory (including contents) with one command in terminal?
[10:47] <mwe> PhilippeK: and?
[10:47] <unstablesob> Seveas: thanks
[10:47] <Seveas> UbuntuJulez, chmod -R
[10:47] <gnomefreak> you have to pass that sentece to download it
[10:47] <mister_roboto_> IRC_: you sure that port is right? i think mine installed on 8180
[10:47] <DanaG> Aargh, I wish there were some widescreen framebuffer console resolutions.
[10:47] <eternalswd> dooglus, thanks, it's more configurable than I thought it would be
[10:47] <heroin> i just installed gnome, how do i start it from a terminal, could some one please help me out on this one?
[10:47] <gnomefreak> sentence*
[10:47] <mwe> PhilippeK: did you type killall -9 esd before starting ekiga from the terminal?
[10:47] <PhilippeK> mwe: i typed killall -9 esd in a terminal
[10:48] <Seveas> heroin, what did you install?
[10:48] <gr3ml> how do i reconfigure networking from a clean slate?
[10:48] <gnomefreak> heroin: didyou install X?
[10:48] <flodine> anyone running kernel 2.6.17 with dapper
[10:48] <eternaljoy> PhilippeK: why?
[10:48] <UbuntuJulez> Seveas, chmod +R <directory> ?
[10:48] <heroin> Seveas gnome-core and it installed a bunch of stuff w. it
[10:48] <Linuturk> Off a fresh reboot; I login work on things, and log out. Whenever I try to log back in, the system hangs.
[10:48] <wsjunior> Could anybody help me to compile my kernel?
[10:48] <Seveas> heroin, install ubuntu-desktop
[10:48] <mwe> PhilippeK: then type ekiga and see if it works and if not if it prints something to the terminal
[10:48] <Linuturk> I have to reboot to log back in
[10:48] <Mr_Awesome> hi, i just downloaded the codeblocks .deb package into /tmp.  is it possible to automatically download and install all dependencies of codeblocks, or do i have to do it manually?
[10:49] <heroin> Seveas i dont want all the stuff ubuntu-desktop comes with.. isnt there a ubuntu-desktop minimal or something?
[10:49] <PhilippeK> mwe: i received a message like: no process killed
[10:49] <gnomefreak> heroin: install gnome
[10:49] <Seveas> heroin, there is an ubuntu-desktop-minimal in my repos
[10:49] <PhilippeK> mwe:
[10:49] <Seveas> !seveas > heroin
[10:49] <heroin> gnomefreak i did, but how do i stgart it?
[10:49] <PhilippeK> mwe: i did it any ties
[10:49] <IRC_> mister_roboto_: it says this page cannot be displayed. the apache people said i have stacktrace issues
[10:49] <PhilippeK> mwe: times
[10:49] <gnomefreak> iirc the package gnme is a minimal metapacakge
[10:49] <gnomefreak> gnome*
[10:49] <mwe> PhilippeK: are you using gnome?
[10:49] <PhilippeK> mwe: yes
[10:49] <UbuntuJulez> I want to change the permissions of a directory (including contents) so that anyone can read/write/execute
[10:49] <wsjunior> I would like to do it as in any other distribution.. Using make && make modules && make modules_install but i cant do it with ubuntu. I get a `init/main.o` target erro. Does anybody here knows anything about it?
[10:49] <gnomefreak> heroin: did it install gdm?
[10:49] <UbuntuJulez> is that just chmod +R <directory>  ?
[10:50] <mister_roboto_> IRC_: lol... "stacktrace issues"   that just means some servlet is blowing up i guess. did you install any of your own web apps?
[10:50] <PhilippeK> mwe: i've launched ekiga
[10:50] <mwe> PhilippeK: odd. ps -e|grep esd confirms esd is not running?
[10:50] <digitalpenguin> seveas now its saying that clvm is not configured
[10:50] <gnomefreak> UbuntuJulez: please man chmod
[10:50] <heroin> gnomefreak not sure let me apt-get it :P
[10:50] <mwe> PhilippeK: yes
[10:50] <dooglus> eternalswd: the autorefresh thing isn't good - it has to bring every window to the front to see what it looks like.
[10:50] <PhilippeK> mwe: it stilldon't work
[10:50] <wsjunior> UbuntuJulez: chmod 777 dir
[10:50] <heroin> gnomefreak no it did not
[10:50] <IRC_> mister_roboto_ yeah i have a subsonic webapp installed
[10:50] <dooglus> eternalswd: I liked what you suggested - if it kept an up-to-date picture of the current window - that'd be enough for me
[10:50] <gnomefreak> heroin: get it
[10:50] <mwe> PhilippeK: odd. ps -e|grep esd confirms esd is not running?
[10:50] <heroin> gnomefreak done :) hold on while it loads
[10:51] <Dodzey> ive tried and tried, but i can't compile onestroke (http://www.missirina.com/risujin/onestroke.php) could someone checkinstall it and send me the .deb?? please
[10:51] <mister_roboto_> IRC_: well uninstall that (remove it from webapps dir)    it has a problem :)
[10:51] <PhilippeK> mwe: i have to type this
[10:51] <digitalpenguin> How do i configure the clvm
[10:51] <mwe> PhilippeK: yes
[10:51] <dooglus> Dodzey: which distro?
[10:51] <fistandantilus> im at a loss here, laptop get internet wirelessly from eth1, eth0 is connected to a hub with another machine on it im trying to get ICS working on, when laptop boots i have no DNS to the internet but can ping,ssh, etc the secondary computer.. i remove the DNS ip from the wireless networking and but the SAME one back in and i get internet/DNS but cant ping the other machine anymore, anyone understand whats going on?
[10:51] <UbuntuJulez> wsjunior, that locked the entire directory up
[10:51] <PhilippeK> mwe: it is a question; isn't it
[10:51] <Dodzey> dooglus: dapper
[10:51] <[Wiebel] > humz
[10:51] <IRC_> mister_roboto_ do you want me to show you my catalina.out file?
[10:51] <mister_roboto_> IRC_: incidentally, i think there might be some issues with tomcat 5.5 and the JDK from the repos. I was having Axis2 blow up on me too but it works with another JDK version.  unfortunately, i have to leave right now so can't do anything else with you
[10:51] <UbuntuJulez> nautilus shows it with a big red X
[10:51] <mwe> PhilippeK: type ps -e|grep esd
[10:51] <[Wiebel] > how do I get rythmbox to play mp3 files?
[10:51] <[Wiebel] > and oggs
[10:52] <mister_roboto_> IRC_: maybe later, gotta run right now
[10:52] <mister_roboto_> IRC_: good luck
[10:52] <dooglus> Dodzey: I don't have dapper, or I would.  I only have edgy and sid, sorry.
[10:52] <mwe> PhilippeK: does it return anything?
[10:52] <Mr_Awesome> hi, i just downloaded the codeblocks .deb package into /tmp.  is it possible to automatically download and install all dependencies of codeblocks, or do i have to do it manually?
[10:52] <Dodzey> dooglues: thanks anyway =) maybe you'll be able to help me with the compile errors?
[10:52] <[Wiebel] > anyone? :)
[10:52] <IRC_> mister_roboto_: thanks for the help
[10:52] <PhilippeK> mwe: i dont get any response
[10:52] <Dodzey> dooglue: thanks anyway =) maybe you'll be able to help me with the compile errors?
[10:52] <Seveas> Mr_Awesome, do you run gnome?
[10:52] <mwe> PhilippeK: esd is not running then. I dont know what to do
[10:53] <Sasalli> Hi again everyone.
[10:53] <dooglus> Dodzey: what do you have?
[10:53] <gnomefreak> Mr_Awesome: when you download a .deb from anywhere other than apt you will need to have the depends installed
[10:53] <Mr_Awesome> Seveas: yes i do
[10:53] <digitalpenguin> seveas: how do i configure clvm
[10:53] <PhilippeK> mwe: what is esd
[10:53] <niall> guys java for frostwire whats the code to get and install
[10:53] <Seveas> Mr_Awesome, places  filesystem, go to /tmp, doubleclick on the deb
[10:53] <Mr_Awesome> gnomefreak: can i download codeblocks from apt?
[10:53] <Seveas> gdebi will launch and install all dependencies
[10:53] <Seveas> !info codeblocks
[10:53] <ubotu> Package codeblocks does not exist in dapper
[10:53] <mwe> PhilippeK: the sound daemon
[10:53] <gnomefreak> gdebi does depedns?
[10:53] <Mr_Awesome> Seveas: i did that, but that means i have to install all dependencies
[10:53] <Dodzey> dooglus: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19890
[10:53] <Seveas> gnomefreak, yes
[10:53] <gnomefreak> where the hell have i been :(
[10:53] <Mr_Awesome> manually
[10:53] <PhilippeK> mwe: ah ok
[10:54] <Seveas> Mr_Awesome, no, gdebi will do that for you
[10:54] <gnomefreak> Mr_Awesome: no gdebi will grab them for you
[10:54] <mwe> PhilippeK: sometimes programs have problems with it
[10:54] <PhilippeK> mwe: and i have to turn it off to run ekiga
[10:54] <fistandantilus> if they exist in the system yes, if it needs external dependencies gdebi wont grab them
[10:54] <Seveas> fistandantilus, true
[10:54] <niall> hey guys i need to get java inorder to run frostwire
[10:54] <Seveas> but in that case you should kick out the deb anyway
[10:54] <Mr_Awesome> Seveas: how do i do that then? it just says "dependency X doesnt exist" and i cant do anything...
[10:54] <Seveas> !java > niall
[10:54] <mwe> PhilippeK: it's not a long term solution but to see if it's the problem you can turn it off
[10:54] <fistandantilus> ive had to fish for some depends from stuff i installed off sourceforge, nothing big though
[10:54] <Seveas> Mr_Awesome, which dependency is it complaining about?
[10:55] <gnomefreak> UbuntuJulez: give me path and file please
[10:55] <Mr_Awesome> Seveas: the wxwidgets one
 java runtime environment
[10:55] <PhilippeK> mwe: ah ok anyway thank you very much
[10:55] <gnomefreak> niall: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre as the /msg you got from ubotu tells you
[10:55] <Sasalli> I want to install Ubuntu 6.06 . I made 3 partitions from winxp (4gb,4gb,1gb). I'm now on "Prepare mount points". Can anyone help me about Mount points and Partitions?
[10:55] <Seveas> Mr_Awesome, ubuntu contains wxwidgets. if codeblocks needs a version not available in ubutu: ditch the deb and find a proper ubuntu deb
[10:55] <UbuntuJulez> gnomefreak, trying to change permissions so that all users can read, write and execute from any directory inm /usr/local/games
[10:55] <digitalpenguin> Seveas: how do i configure clvm?
[10:56] <Seveas> UbuntuJulez, chmod -R 777 /usr/local/games
[10:56] <Seveas> digitalpenguin, no idea
[10:56] <dooglus> Dodzey: can you paste more context?
[10:56] <digitalpenguin> arg
[10:56] <Dodzey> dooglus: sure, what do you want?
[10:56] <dooglus> UbuntuJulez: do you want all users to be able to delete your games too?
[10:56] <gnomefreak> UbuntuJulez: chmod -R /usr/local/games
[10:56] <Sasalli>  I want to install Ubuntu 6.06 . I made 3 partitions from winxp (4gb,4gb,1gb). I'm now on "Prepare mount points". Can anyone help me about Mount points and Partitions?
[10:56] <dooglus> Dodzey: what command were you running?
[10:56] <mwe> sudo chmod maybe
[10:56] <Mr_Awesome> Seveas: the codeblocks download link had "Ubuntu" in it.  maybe im not using the right package manager?
[10:57] <Dodzey> dooglus: make
[10:57] <gnomefreak> eh maybe sudo first
[10:57] <dooglus> running chmod -R on /usr/local/games will mess things up.  some of the files are supposed to be setgid
[10:57] <UbuntuJulez> Seveas, chmod -R 777 /usr/local/games "operation not permitted"
[10:57] <Seveas> UbuntuJulez, prefix it with sudo
[10:57] <heroin> l Sasalli basically linux has 1 start point.. root, because of 3 partitions there actually are 3 roots, so u have to mount the other 2 roots into the 1st one O.o
[10:57] <Dodzey> dooglus: the compile readme says thats all i need to do, (ill run checkinstall once it compiles properly) it doesnt have a configure script or anything
[10:57] <gnomefreak> UbuntuJulez: sudo chmod -R 777 /usr/local/games
[10:57] <UbuntuJulez> dooglus, some of the files are supposed to what?
[10:57] <mwe> but is that a good idead on /usr/local/games?
[10:57] <Roots> All your roots are belong to me!
[10:57] <mwe> idea*
[10:57] <] GD_> In an attempt to enable booting to ubuntu after installing windows on another partition... i tried to recover grub... i've tried manually doing it, using the LiveCD, the install CD, and tried using Super Grub Disk, but they all produced the same results... could I just try to re-installl grub? if so.. how?
[10:57] <Seveas> mwe, semi-good
[10:58] <mwe> heh
[10:58] <acojlo> how to work with faxes on ubuntu (software modem)
[10:58] <Sasalli> Root means "/" ?
[10:58] <Seveas> mwe, /usr/local/* is not to b touched by a package manager so you can do what you want
[10:58] <] GD_> I can't even boot windows right now... as if there is nothing in my mbr
[10:58] <gnomefreak> Sasalli: that is your root partiton
[10:58] <dooglus> Dodzey: install package "libxtst-dev"
[10:58] <Blinker> .join #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:58] <niall> i want to uninstall frostwire how would i do this then reinstall now that i hvae the java runtime installed
[10:58] <Blinker> gah
[10:58] <UbuntuJulez> thank you gnomefreak , dooglus and Seveas
[10:59] <gnomefreak> Blinker: try /j #uubntu-offtopic
[10:59] <gnomefreak> ubuntu even
[10:59] <Blinker> covered
[10:59] <mwe> Seveas: yeah. personally I'm not a fan of 777 perms in /usr/* generally though
[10:59] <Seveas> mwe, likewise, but it's his/her system
[10:59] <redcard> mwe: I can think of about nine ways to exploit that
[10:59] <Seveas> redcard, I win, I know more :
[11:00] <Sasalli> ok. 'm trying
[11:00] <sagarp> if i have two WIFI cards, how can i configure them to load balance? (they connect to separate networks)
[11:00] <selfharm> i have a 260 gig fat32 partition that i mounted under /dev/fileshare. i tried to move about 50 gigs of files to it, but it quickly filled my 20gigs on my LINUX partition rather than the 260gig partition...
[11:00] <Sasalli> what about swap?
[11:00] <fnoo> How do I arrange things so that my user has read/write access to a mounted drive, but other users have no access at all?
[11:00] <redcard> Seveas: You don't win :) You only need one way in :)
[11:00] <Seveas> fnoo, chmod 700
[11:00] <Seveas> redcard, true
[11:01] <fnoo> Seveas: I want it to mount through /etc/fstab
[11:01] <Dodzey> dooglus: thank you! it compiles now, but checkinstall doesn't seem to want to work
[11:01] <Seveas> fnoo, is it a removable drive? which filesystem?
[11:01] <dooglus> Dodzey: "sudo checkinstall" is the command
[11:01] <fnoo> Seveas: No, it's just another hard drive. FAT32 I think ("vfat")
[11:02] <Seveas> !windowsdrives > fnoo
[11:02] <Dodzey> dooglus: ahha....many thanks! =)] 
[11:02] <Blinker> is video hardware accelleration get set up automatically with ubuntu? I'm assuming not since I updated the drivers for my ATI card (M300) but I still get horrible performance. otherwise, how do I set that up?
[11:02] <Sasalli> is there any advanced guide about Ubuntu install?
[11:02] <Seveas> ubotu sent you a link to a script, run it and change the umask to 0700 in /etc/fstab afterwards
[11:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about sent you a link to a script, run it and change the umask to 0700 in /etc/fstab afterwards - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:02] <Seveas> ubotu, shaddap
[11:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about shaddap - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:02] <fnoo> Seveas: What's that supposed to mean?
[11:02] <Mr_Awesome> Seveas: basically the codeblocks package i downloaded is incorrect?
[11:02] <Seveas> Mr_Awesome, I think so
[11:03] <Seveas> fnoo, ?
[11:03] <Mr_Awesome> Seveas: i will have to discuss with codeblocks then, thanks
[11:03] <redcard> Mr_Awesome: They don't put together their packages.
[11:03] <fnoo> Seveas: Oh, it was a bot command. I thought you were saying inverted windows drivers were better than me.
[11:04] <Otacon22> when I try to connect a bluetooth headset a bluetooth progam alert me that there is an error because pairing is not allowed... how I allow it?
[11:04] <Seveas> fnoo, LOL
[11:04] <Mr_Awesome> redcard: well, any suggestions? many other people have gotten cb to work
[11:04] <Otacon22> help please, I am on this problem from 3 hours
[11:04] <redcard> Mr_Awesome: Compile it.
[11:05] <Mr_Awesome> redcard: ok, i will try that, thanks
[11:05] <redcard> Tho, I'm a fan of Ajunta or Eclipse over codeblocks
[11:05] <digitalpenguin> can anyone help me with this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19891
[11:06] <] GD_> In an attempt to enable booting to ubuntu after installing windows on another partition... i tried to recover grub... i've tried manually doing it, using the LiveCD, the install CD, and tried using Super Grub Disk, but they all produced the same results... could I just try to re-installl grub? if so.. how? I can't even boot windows right now.. makes me think there's nothing on my mbr xD
[11:06] <[Wiebel] > hmz
[11:06] <Mr_Awesome> redcard: i just want codeblocks so i can port my windows projects
[11:06] <[Wiebel] > rythmbox keeps crashing here
[11:06] <lhds> how to untar a .tar file?
[11:07] <fnoo> How do I get my UID?
[11:07] <dooglus> Dodzey: that's quite a nice little program.
[11:07] <rszt> hi, can someone direct me to some doc as to how i can set up my isdn connection in ubuntu 5.10?
[11:07] <rszt> fnoo: id
[11:07] <lhds> how to untar a.tar file?
[11:08] <fnoo> rszt: Thanks. Everyone I looked it said it was "getuid" :-(
[11:08] <gnomefreak> lhds: you mean .tar?
[11:08] <lhds> yes
[11:08] <dooglus> Dodzey: did you see 'dasher'?  it's a nice mouse-based input tool
[11:08] <gr3ml> why would ifconfig -a not match devices found during bootup in dmesh (eth0 vs eth2)
[11:08] <gnomefreak> lhds: tar xvzf file.tar
[11:08] <IcemanV9> [Wiebel] : rhythmbox v0.9.3.1 works on my box; any err msg? or did you update your box recently?
[11:09] <redcard> Wow.. never thought I'd see the day when I see C# programs on linux.  *chuckles*
[11:09] <Dodzey> dooglus: no, but i'll check it out
[11:09] <TheGateKeeper> digitalpenguin: lines 49-51 suggest to me that they need to be installed before you can proceed, and I have no idea what they are or where you could find them sorry :-(
[11:09] <lhds> tar or rar?
[11:09] <gnomefreak> lhds: tar
[11:09] <dooglus> gnomefreak: that will only work with gzipped tar files.  "tar xf file.tar" is a better answer, since it works with all tarfiles
[11:09] <gnomefreak> dooglus: he said a .tar
[11:09] <lhds> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[11:09] <digitalpenguin> thank you thegatekeeper ill try looking further into it
[11:09] <[Wiebel] > IcemanV9: it crashes with a segmentation fault
[11:09] <dooglus> gnomefreak: "tar xfz" won't work unless it's gzipped
[11:10] <geekdom> Hey is there a command line gui to do things like set a static ip address in ubunuto 606 server ?
[11:10] <geekdom> Net something ..
[11:10] <TheGateKeeper> digitalpenguin: just out of curiosity what are you trying to install?
[11:10] <gnomefreak> lhds: use tar xf file.tar than
[11:10] <digitalpenguin> gdesklets but it kept wanting redhate-cluster-suite
[11:10] <[Wiebel] > IcemanV9: i'm using the same version
[11:10] <digitalpenguin> but i just went to try the install again and it seems to be working
[11:10] <Dodzey> dooglus: im having a bit of trouble with onestroke at the moment, the input window takes focus away from the app i had focused before, so the character printing doesn't work
[11:10] <digitalpenguin> so i might have figured it out
[11:10] <IcemanV9> [Wiebel] : hm. dapper?
[11:10] <[Wiebel] > IcemanV9: jup
[11:11] <cr3> is there a way to test the CD I am using to install Ubuntu, the process seems to die after selecting the language :(
[11:11] <[Wiebel] > IcemanV9: it crashes when updating the libary
[11:11] <digitalpenguin> btw is there a hotkey for entering someones name
[11:11] <KenSentMe> Does anyone have amavisd-new installed? I think i'm missing some config files
[11:11] <gnomefreak> lhds: its always good to know what format it is .tar.bz2 .tar.gz
[11:11] <TheGateKeeper> digitalpenguin: apt-get install gdesklets (after enabling universe repo) ???
[11:11] <Sasalli_> is there any advanced,graphichal installation guide?
[11:11] <digitalpenguin> one sec
[11:12] <andy> hello. i am still having a problem with my ubuntu web. i can view content on servers on my lan, i can ping to anything outside my lan, although firefox wont load a page outside of the lan. ideas ?
[11:12] <dooglus> Dodzey: can you set the onestroke window to be 'always on top'?
[11:12] <TheGateKeeper> digitalpenguin: write the first few letters then press tab to complete
[11:12] <] GD_> In an attempt to enable booting to ubuntu after installing windows on another partition... i tried to recover grub... i've tried manually doing it, using the LiveCD, the install CD, and tried using Super Grub Disk, but they all produced the same results... could I just try to re-installl grub? if so.. how? I can't even boot windows right now.. makes me think there's nothing on my mbr xD
[11:12] <[Wiebel] > IcemanV9: using it for my mp3 collection, as jukebox
[11:12] <Espenfjo> This is quite weird. Im only getting around 125 fps with my x1400 card. newest fglrx on ubuntu dapper. glxinfo seems ok
[11:12] <IcemanV9> [Wiebel] : i got a new kernel update this morning. so i thought it might be the case for you, but it's the library. dunno. guess you'll report it as a bug.
[11:13] <[Wiebel] > hmm hmm
[11:13] <digitalpenguin> TheGateKeeper: thank you
[11:13] <gnomefreak> Sasalli_: did you try on wiki.ubuntu.com?
[11:13] <Port4> What does Wiki stand for?
[11:13] <KenSentMe> Sasalli_: check http://help.ubuntu.com
[11:13] <Sasalli_> I'm going to freak
[11:13] <IcemanV9> [Wiebel] : me, too. i use it for online radio, mp3, etc.
[11:13] <TheGateKeeper> digitalpenguin: yw ;-)
[11:13] <fistandantilus> screw it im never rebooting my computer again, after a few hours of  messing with it my nat just works now so im done rebooting for as long as possible ;)
[11:13] <Sasalli_> I spend 4 hours for partition edit
[11:13] <Sasalli_> I can't do anythik.
[11:13] <Chetic> Is there a way to get Windows icons out of Windows executables?
[11:13] <Dodzey> dooglus: yeah, it's set like that by default, (i haven't got my graphics pad connected at the moment, i was gonna stick at the bottom of the screen and use the bottom part of my graphics pad, but im using the mouse for now) but it still takes focus away when i draw on it
[11:14] <KenSentMe> Port4: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki
[11:14] <digitalpenguin> TheGateKeeper: ya when i try to do apt-get i get those errors
[11:14] <gnomefreak> Chetic: this isnt a windows channel try ##windows
[11:14] <fistandantilus> Chetic: yeah with windows programs ive done it, not sure about in linux
[11:14] <[Wiebel] > IcemanV9: what packages did you use for mp3 support?
[11:14] <dr_willis> ] GD what where the 'same results' ? it just dident work?
[11:14] <Chetic> gnomefreak, I mean in Linux for crying out loud...
[11:14] <dooglus> "Wiki-wiki" means "hurry quick" in Hawaiian
[11:14] <Chetic> fistandantilus, ah but I'm sure wine can do it
[11:14] <] GD_> yeah
[11:14] <TheGateKeeper> digitalpenguin: the pastebin errors?
[11:14] <] GD_> when i try to boot
[11:14] <] GD_> there's a black screen
[11:14] <Chetic> fistandantilus, I mean I can use wine to run those programs
[11:14] <gnomefreak> Chetic: linux doesnt support windows most windows files will _not_ run on linux
[11:14] <] GD_> with one _
[11:14] <cpare> hello all
[11:14] <lhds> in /usr/src i should have a linux folder with an @ next to it instead i have a linux-headers-2.6.15-26      linux-source-2.6.15 linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386    any suggestions?
[11:14] <digitalpenguin> ya
[11:14] <dooglus> Dodzey: I find it only takes focus if I click on its border, not if I draw inside the square
[11:15] <Chetic> gnomefreak, I just want... the freakin icon
[11:15] <dr_willis> ] GD_,  with just an Underscore?
[11:15] <dooglus> Dodzey: I'm running xfce4 (xubuntu).  maybe that's the difference.
[11:15] <Sasalli_> how partition table Ubuntu use? what is the root and swap?
[11:15] <IcemanV9> [Wiebel] : i just followed restricted format help wiki. it just works. i did not have to fiddle with it.
[11:15] <[Wiebel] > IcemanV9: ok
[11:15] <fistandantilus> his question isnt windows specific heh
[11:15] <djk_> how do i check if a filesystem is corrupt and/or if a hdd is damaged?
[11:16] <selfharm> im trying to setup a fat32 partition, under disks it shows as "swap" but i also have a 1 gig part set as swap. can i remove this swap label from my fat32 partition?
[11:16] <mwe> djk_: fsck
[11:16] <dr_willis> Sasalli_,  swap is where the 'swap file' goes (onlyu its all by itself)  root is /  and is where everything else goes.
[11:16] <lhds> no suggestions?
[11:16] <Chetic> fistandantilus, what was the name of that program you used?
[11:16] <fnoo> Is there any way to allow me to modify the audio properties (Artist, Title, etc.) through Rhythmbox? If not, any recommendations on software to do that?
[11:16] <djk_> mwe: elaborate?
[11:16] <TheGateKeeper> digitalpenguin: try modifying your repos using this procedure then try apt-get install again: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories
[11:16] <fistandantilus> Chetic: im trying to remember it now, it was something-'icon manager' i think, i havent used it in years though
[11:16] <mwe> djk_: check the file system with the fsck command.
[11:17] <TheGateKeeper> digitalpenguin: if that does not work then you need to report a bug
[11:17] <Sasalli_> there is so crowd
[11:17] <Dodzey> dooglus: well say if i open gedit, click in the text area and then draw on the onestroke window, the gedit text cursor goes away (lost focus) and it draw on the window fine, but doesnt send the key event to gedit
[11:17] <gnomefreak> fistandantilus: if its not windows spiecific than he wont need a windows app to do it
[11:17] <lhds> so ? i am waiting
[11:17] <cpare> Anyone out there use Meditech?
[11:17] <wasabi> Hmm. Mugshot packages for Edgy?
[11:17] <Sasalli_> is pm possible there?
[11:17] <dooglus> Dodzey: you can see from the colour of the windows' title bars which has focus
[11:17] <DanaG|Away> Is there any major advantage to compiling your own kernel with all the unnecessary stuff (such as gigabit-over-fiber, infiniband, and such) removed?
[11:17] <IcemanV9> Chetic: i went thru the same thing and did not find the answer for getting the icon out of windows exe. :/
[11:18] <gnomefreak> wasabi: dont know if he has intergrated that or if it will be his own repo yet
[11:18] <digitalpenguin> TheGateKeeper: ok ill try it but im real new to linux so we shall see
[11:18] <lhds> in /usr/src i should have a linux folder with an @ next to it instead i have a linux-headers-2.6.15-26      linux-source-2.6.15 linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386    any suggestions?
[11:18] <dooglus> Dodzey: in fact, I can't get the onestroke window to take focus, even if I click on its titlebar.
[11:18] <mwe> djk_: sudo fsck /dev/hdwhatever or sudo tune2fs -C 999 to force a check at next boot for an ext fs
[11:18] <Sasalli_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UserDocumentation > where is the ubuntu installation?
[11:18] <fistandantilus> gnomefreak: alright well people ask for help with wine programs all the time so that seems a little overboard but whatever im not going to fight about it
[11:18] <djk_> mwe: how do i repair a broken superblock?
[11:18] <cpare> DanaG - theory is that it loads faster, runs thinner
[11:18] <maleficus> Here is a stupid question, I just installed WINE, how do I use it?
[11:19] <Dodzey> dooglus: hmm...I can...its strange
[11:19] <Katana> what's the command to launch the package manager ubuntu has?
[11:19] <mwe> djk_: if it's possible, boot a live cd and run fsck on the partition
[11:19] <gnomefreak> fistandantilus: we send people to #winehq unless a simple iisue and im not fighting
[11:19] <lhds> i am being ignored i guess
[11:19] <lhds> :(
[11:19] <TheGateKeeper> digitalpenguin: apt-get should resolve the dependencies, you could also try installing it by synaptic, and if you don't have synaptic then apt-get install synaptic, it is a package Management GUI like Adept, except I think it is better
[11:19] <Chetic> ah IcemanV9, thanks for telling me that.. I'll just quit now instead of an hour from now
[11:19] <Sasalli_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UserDocumentation > where is the ubuntu installation?
[11:19] <IcemanV9> maleficus: wine <program>.exe
[11:19] <] GD> Dr. Willis,sry somethin happened at home so i was afk
[11:19] <] GD> umm.. yeah all i see is an underscore
[11:19] <Otacon22> anyone had never tried to use bluetooth on linux?
[11:20] <digitalpenguin> TheGateKeeper: ok ill get that then ill try the apt-get of it again
[11:20] <Dodzey> Otacon22: yup
[11:20] <cpare> lhds - whatr was your Q?
[11:20] <mwe> IcemanV9: you forgot the "and pray" part ;)
[11:20] <lhds> in /usr/src i should have a linux folder with an @ next to it instead i have a linux-headers-2.6.15-26      linux-source-2.6.15 linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386    any suggestions?
[11:20] <lhds> sorry for cppsting again and again that was it
[11:20] <Sasalli_> :'(
[11:20] <gnomefreak> IcemanV9: would dos2unix work?
[11:20] <digitalpenguin> TheGateKeeper: i got the errors trying to get synaptic
[11:20] <Otacon22> Dodzey, I am tring to make work a bluetooth headset
[11:20] <maleficus> IcemanV9:  I assume I type that in terminal? and if so do I need to enter a path?
[11:20] <fistandantilus> Chetic: you get my PM?
[11:20] <Sasalli_> I'm going to crash all of ubuntu dvds
[11:20] <Chetic> yeah fistandantilus checking it out now
[11:20] <djk_> mwe: my hdd made unusual ticking noises yesterday, then everything crashed and afterwards the bios didn't recognize it.. is this a simple case of corrupt superblock/filesystem or is the hdd damaged?
[11:20] <fistandantilus> k
[11:21] <Dodzey> Otacon22, now that i haven't done (not yet anyway, its oe of my next tasks) ive only used it for file transfer to my phone etc
[11:21] <cpare> lhds - I have the same
[11:21] <mwe> djk_: it sure sounds bad to me
[11:21] <Dodzey> Otacon22: do you use gnome or kde?
[11:21] <Otacon22> gnome
[11:21] <IcemanV9> gnomefreak: i don't know. it's just an icon hid in windows exe
[11:21] <lhds> gee
[11:21] <mwe> djk_: the noise part in particular
[11:21] <IcemanV9> mwe: heh 
[11:21] <] GD> In an attempt to enable booting to ubuntu after installing windows on another partition... i tried to recover grub... i've tried manually doing it, using the LiveCD, the install CD, and tried using Super Grub Disk, but they all produced the same results... could I just try to re-installl grub? if so.. how? I can't even boot windows right now.. makes me think there's nothing on my mbr xD when booting all i get is a black screen with one 
[11:21] <redcard> djk_: Time to get a new harddrive.
[11:21] <fistandantilus> djk_: OS problems usually dont make 'clicking' sounds ;/
[11:21] <cpare> lhds - sorry
[11:21] <digitalpenguin> djk_: ya man sounds like a bad HDD
[11:21] <gnomefreak> IcemanV9: assuming dos2unix would change it to a unix based file
[11:21] <stefg> !install > Sasalli_
[11:21] <Otacon22> Dodzey, but I think my problem is't difficult, I don't know how to resolve it
[11:21] <mwe> djk_: and the bios not seing it anymore
[11:21] <lhds> when they tell me to link the source files with the linux folder withch one i choose?
[11:21] <IcemanV9> maleficus: yes. in the terminal
[11:21] <dr_willis> ] GD_,  it may be worth your time to read a few grub docs/manuals and learn how it works.  Normally you boot a livecd, mount your installed / partition, chroot over to it. and then run 'update-grub'     If you know your grub - its possible to reinstall grub from any grub command prompt.
[11:21] <Otacon22> but it is not difficult i think
[11:22] <gnomefreak> like it does for frostwire
[11:22] <TheGateKeeper> digitalpenguin: what does this return? cat /proc/version
[11:22] <Dodzey> Otacon22: go on...what is it?
[11:22] <lhds> the .386 header?
[11:22] <gnomefreak> or spend 12 hours hacking the crap out of it
[11:22] <] GD> right, but I already have ubuntu installed...
[11:22] <digitalpenguin> TheGateKeeper: let me post another paste file for you
[11:22] <] GD> i just can't boot to it... (and now not even windoows.)
[11:22] <cpare> lhds - the 386 directory
[11:23] <djk_> okay..so.. which hdd(ide) do you guys suggest?
[11:23] <lhds> thanx mate
[11:23] <cpare> lhds - thats what I always do
[11:23] <redcard> ] GD: You should be able to boot with the livecd as a rescue disk
[11:23] <digitalpenguin> TheGateKeeper: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19892
[11:23] <UbuntuJulez> higen, i am attemping to create a directory using the sudo mkdir command but it wont let me; it just says something like "no such file or directory"
[11:23] <selfharm> i have a 260 gig fat32 partition that i mounted under /dev/fileshare. i tried to move about 50 gigs of files to it, but it quickly filled my 20gigs on my LINUX partition rather than the 260gig partition...
[11:23] <] GD> i tried to run "boot: rescue" from the live cd, but that also gave me the _
[11:23] <owen_> whats one of the best C++ development packages available for ubuntu?
[11:23] <gnomefreak> UbuntuJulez: what is the command you are using
[11:23] <mwe> djk_: seagate barracuda is pretty good for the price usually
[11:23] <UbuntuJulez> mkdir /usr/local/games/quake
[11:23] <redcard> ] GD: Wow.
[11:23] <] GD> i tried to mount the partition in live CD, but for some reason it said it cannot bount(i forgot what..)
[11:23] <] GD> huh?
[11:24] <UbuntuJulez> sudo mkdir /usr/local/games/quake
[11:24] <salah> how to I rezise the command line window with ubuntu? I am talking about a laptop used as server without X installed
[11:24] <redcard> You.. installed Ubuntu after windows?
[11:24] <UbuntuJulez> mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/local/games/quake': No such file or directory
[11:24] <Otacon22> Dodzey, when I try to connect my bluetooth headset from shell dont' work and my bluetooth manger alert me that the device that I am trying to make work is not allowed to pairing... what I have to modify to allow it?
[11:24] <mwe> salah: huh?
[11:24] <TheGateKeeper> digitalpenguin: what does this return? cat /proc/version
[11:24] <printk> UbuntuJulez: make sure you do it in order
[11:24] <mwe> salah: isn't it full screen then?
[11:24] <gnomefreak> UbuntuJulez: im not so sure its that easy in /usr/local
[11:24] <] GD> no, installed windows.... (long ago) then reformatted HD and installed ubuntu(after partitioning it.)
[11:24] <Port4>  What is the best bootmanager?
[11:24] <selfharm> !ntfs
[11:24] <cpare> UbuntuJulez - even with sudo added to the front?
[11:24] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[11:24] <printk> UbuntuJulez: sudo mkdir /usr/local/games && sudo mkdir /usr/local/games/doom
[11:24] <digitalpenguin> TheGateKeeper: Linux version 2.6.15-26-386 (buildd@terranova) (gcc version 4.0.3 (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5)) #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006
[11:24] <] GD> then on another partition.. installed windows, and had trouble getting back to ubuntu
[11:24] <mwe> salah: you can play with the vga= boot option
[11:25] <redcard> ] GD: That's.. your problem, likely.
[11:25] <Sasalli_> is there a graphichal installation guide for Ubuntu 6.06
[11:25] <stefg> ] GD all it needs is grub from a live CD.. escape to the commandline and with three simple commands you'll have a working grub in your MDR
[11:25] <gnomefreak> Port4: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic but a few goods ones would be grub or lilo
[11:25] <salah> mwe, no, it is using a small bit of the screen. I know it works when I use vga=*some size* but the problem here is that I cannot restart the server
[11:25] <redcard> Windows might have run over the top of your Ubuntu stuff.
[11:25] <UbuntuJulez> i used sudo nautilus and emptied the roots trash
[11:25] <] GD> i've tried !grub
[11:25] <gnomefreak> !install > Sasalli_
[11:25] <UbuntuJulez> (i had the directory created previously and then deleted it)
[11:25] <] GD> and thats what i'm getting.
[11:25] <UbuntuJulez> now that it is emptied, the mkdir command works
[11:25] <mwe> salah: I don't think you can change it after it's booted
[11:25] <Dodzey> Otacon22: have you amde sure your headset is set to pair (you'll have to push some of the buttons on your headset in a certain way for a certain amount of time...
[11:25] <] GD> perhaps i'm recovering grub from the wrong partition.. but how do i find out which one it should be on?
[11:25] <Sasalli_> i want graphichal
[11:25] <Ademan> I was gonna add a grub splash image, does it need to be in any particular format? one tutorial i saw said xpm... is png acceptable as well?
[11:25] <Roots> don't empty my trash
[11:25] <dr_willis> ] gD i would guess you just did a command wrong.
[11:26] <gnomefreak> Sasalli_: most likely not (try google)
[11:26] <Dodzey> Otacon22, it'll be in your manual, under "pairing"
[11:26] <] GD> i tried the commands... and also tried Super Grub Disk.
[11:26] <redcard> ] GD: Well.. I don't know.  I've never installed windows after linux because it generally breaks something.
[11:26] <Blinker> how is video hardware acceleration managed in ubuntu?
[11:26] <] GD> xD, i needed to game =[
[11:26] <Otacon22> Dodzey, yes, I have press the botton in paring mode... I have already tryed with my phone and it work
[11:26] <owen_> what is the package name for flash?
[11:26] <cpare> ] GD - I agree with redcard
[11:26] <mwe> Blinker: by installing a driver usually
[11:26] <TheGateKeeper> digitalpenguin: what does this return? cat /etc/issue <---- that's what I should have asked you for ooops!
[11:26] <gnomefreak> owen_: flashplugin-nonfree
[11:26] <Otacon22> the problem have to be in the pc
[11:26] <Dodzey> Otacon22, hmm....thats odd...what are you using in the shell to pair it with your pc?
[11:27] <owen_> thanks
[11:27] <andy> i got it. ipv6 DOES FUX0R with dns and firefox. if in the event of this happening, disable ipv6.
[11:27] <mwe> Blinker: what card?
[11:27] <digitalpenguin> TheGateKeeper: lol ok one sec
[11:27] <Blinker> mwe: ATI M300
[11:27] <dr_willis> ] gD the commands will work..YOu are most likely doing somting wrong. grub has  a lot of little quirks to watch out for.
[11:27] <Otacon22> Dodzey, PVT
[11:27] <owen_> what is the shortcut in the keyboard to open the terminal?
[11:27] <stefg> ] GD: once you're at the grub promt it's 'find /boot/grub/stage1', then 'root (hd0)', 'setup (hd0)' and you're done :-)
[11:27] <dooglus> Dodzey: are you using GNOME or KDE or what?
[11:27] <digitalpenguin> Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS \n \l
[11:27] <mwe> Blinker: m300. is that a reasonably new card?
[11:27] <Dodzey> dooglus: gnome
[11:27] <Blinker> mwe yeah, mobile version of the x300
[11:27] <] GD> right, that's what I've done.
[11:27] <dooglus> Dodzey: I'll try it in GNOME then, if I can work out how to run it
[11:28] <mwe> Blinker: oh. read the ati wiki then
[11:28] <Dodzey> dooglus: im also running compiz window manager instead of metacity, reckon that'll affect it?
[11:28] <mwe> !ati > Blinker
[11:28] <Blinker> mwe: k, thx
[11:28] <TheGateKeeper> digitalpenguin: that's good :-) just checking, can you pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list for me please
[11:28] <mwe> Blinker: see the /msg from ubotu
[11:28] <] GD> is there a way to check if grub is infact installed?
[11:28] <digitalpenguin> TheGateKeeper: sure can 1 sec
[11:28] <] GD> (other than booting, ofcourse)
[11:28] <Blinker> mwe: was already looking
[11:28] <Dodzey> Otacon22: have you tried gnome-bluetooth? its in the repo's
[11:28] <mwe> ] GD: booting ;)
[11:28] <] GD> =_=
[11:28] <owen_> it says it cant find the package flashplugin-nonfree gnomefreak
[11:28] <Ademan> GD: i installed windows after having ubuntu (for games)
[11:29] <] GD> =] 
[11:29] <jdmpike_> is there a way to tell gdebi to force-architecutre on a package?
[11:29] <Otacon22> Dodzey, I remember that I had tryed but it don't work
[11:29] <gnomefreak> owen_: enable the multiverse repo
[11:29] <mwe> Blinker: come back if you get stuck
[11:29] <Ademan> now i dual-boot both, i just choose whichever one i want at the grub boot menu
[11:29] <gnomefreak> !repos > owen_
[11:29] <] GD> right, for some reason i can't find the grub menu
[11:29] <gnomefreak> owen_: the pm from ubotu should show you how
[11:29] <Blinker> mwe: will do
[11:29] <] GD> could it be... maybe i'm in the grub menu now. but there are no options that i'm seeing? O_o
[11:29] <owen_> sorry, no pm
[11:29] <mwe> ] GD: does it boot linux though?
[11:29] <] GD> no
[11:29] <Ademan> ] GD: what do you mean? are you booting right now?
[11:29] <stefg> ] GD, the other problem could be that your menu.lst is messed...
[11:30] <gnomefreak> !repos
[11:30] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:30] <owen_> ah there we go
[11:30] <mwe> ] GD: I think you have about 3 second the press esc to get the menu by default
[11:30] <gnomefreak> ^^ owen_
[11:30] <] GD> it could be missing.
[11:30] <digitalpenguin> TheGateKeeper: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19893
[11:30] <] GD> if you don't press escape.. what would you do?
[11:30] <] GD> *it
[11:30] <gnomefreak> mwe: on a hidden grub yes 3 secs
[11:30] <Silenti-Ambulo> hiya all you ubuntu luvers.....
[11:30] <Otacon22> Dodzey, no, i have it, but it don't do nothing
[11:30] <Ademan> it would go on and try and boot the default operating system (or die trying
[11:30] <Otacon22> ..
[11:30] <mwe> gnomefreak: is it hidden by default though?
[11:30] <dr_willis> silly hiddent menu :P
[11:30] <selfharm> is there a keystroke shortcut to open Computer, like win+e ?
[11:30] <gnomefreak> on this system it is on my otherone no
[11:30] <Otacon22> I can only see the bluetooth devices
[11:31] <] GD> i was tapping esc while i rebooted(just now.) and nothing new happened
[11:31] <gnomefreak> mwe: i think with more than one os it is not hidden by default
[11:31] <Ademan> what do you see? plain black? what?
[11:31] <mwe> gnomefreak: ok
[11:31] <gnomefreak> mwe: i was thinking about that the other day ;)
[11:31] <stefg> ] GDnot from disk... from CD!
[11:31] <acojlo> how to change cpufreq governor with gnome-applet?
[11:31] <mwe> 
[11:31] <] GD> huh? from CD?
[11:31] <Ademan> whoa mwe, nice characters lol
[11:32] <mwe> Ademan: heh 
[11:32] <Ademan> ] GD: he wants you to boot using a liveCD like when you installed Ubuntu
[11:32] <mwe> Ademan: I stole it from Seveas
[11:32] <acojlo> it's like locked on userspace -it's good, but I can not change it to performance when I'm on AC
[11:32] <Dodzey> Otacon22, Im not really sure then....try here....http://bluetooth-alsa.sourceforge.net/ not ubuntu specific but it may give you a better idea
[11:32] <Seveas> 
[11:32] <Seveas> !-#ubuntu-offtopic
[11:32] <ubotu> -#ubuntu-offtopic is the katakana character 'tsu' - often abused as smiley by Seveas and a truckload of other copycats 
[11:32] <Ademan> dear god... FOREIGNERS!!!!
[11:32] <stefg> ] GD first pick a less annoying nick :-) then put the Ubuntu CD in the drive, and in the process of booting press esc
[11:32] <] GD> okay, after I boot with live CD, then what?
[11:32] <Silenti-Ambulo> Hiya peeps, anyone able to help me getting dvd-movies to work ?
[11:32] <] GoldenDragon> there.
[11:32] <Seveas> !dvd > Silenti-Ambulo
[11:33] <mwe> heh
[11:33] <Ademan> ] GoldenDragon: I think it was the bracket that was annoying
[11:33] <Ademan> lol
[11:33] <Otacon22> Dodzey, I have already tryed to do that sudgest int hat page, but the problem is always the same
[11:33] <] GoldenDragon> heh, thats too bad
[11:33] <Silenti-Ambulo> Yep, it reads data-dvd's but can't play movies Seveas
[11:33] <] GoldenDragon> just say GD then
[11:33] <] GoldenDragon> its fine.
[11:33] <Ademan> well
[11:33] <Ademan> anyways
[11:33] <Silenti-Ambulo> !dvd
[11:33] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:33] <Dodzey> Otacon22: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSkype -- what about there?
[11:33] <owen_> is it safe to enable multi and uni repos in all channels?
[11:33] <Silenti-Ambulo> I already installed livdvdcss
[11:33] <Ademan> when you've booted the live CD you can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:33] <digitalpenguin> TheGateKeeper: any idea
[11:33] <TheGateKeeper> digitalpenguin: you have done sudo apt-get update ??
[11:33] <gnomefreak> Silenti-Ambulo: what about libdvdread?
[11:34] <Otacon22> Dodzey, wait, now I try
[11:34] <Dodzey> Otacon22: its the second part of that page
[11:34] <] GoldenDragon> ehh, it looks like i'm already at the ubuntu installation screens..
[11:34] <paulm> Does anyone know how I can create floppy so that the system will only boot up if that floppy is present?
[11:34] <Falcon4> okay. can someone explain this blurb?
[11:34] <Falcon4> root@ubuntu:~# losetup -o512 /dev/loop0 /media/usbdisk/PhysicalDisk0.img
[11:34] <Falcon4> ioctl: LOOP_SET_FD: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[11:34] <] GoldenDragon> pressing esc says "you are leaving the graphical boot menu and starting the test mode interface"
[11:34] <digitalpenguin> TheGateKeeper: yes
[11:34] <] GoldenDragon> hit okay?
[11:34] <Silenti-Ambulo> libdvdread3 is installed gnomefreak
[11:34] <] GoldenDragon> or cancel?
[11:34] <stefg> ] GoldenDragon: this is where we want to go !
[11:34] <Dodzey> Otacon22, sorry i can't be of more help
[11:34] <YesDad> Hi
[11:34] <] GoldenDragon> okay.
[11:34] <X-Hacker`> sup
[11:34] <gnomefreak> !bootfloppy > paulm
[11:35] <] GoldenDragon> now it says... boot:
[11:35] <gnomefreak> paulm: please read the pm from ubotu
[11:35] <Ademan> hit enter
[11:35] <Ademan> GD ^^
[11:35] <digitalpenguin> TheGateKeeper: i just did it again
[11:35] <stefg> ] GoldenDragon: esc again
[11:35] <] GoldenDragon> ahh.
[11:35] <paulm> gnomefreak thanks
[11:35] <secleinteer> hey i tried to install the gnome clipboard daemon using the instructions at ubuntuguide.org, and now pcmia services fail to start on boot
[11:35] <secleinteer> does any1 know how to fix this?
[11:35] <gnomefreak> !restricted > Silenti-Ambulo
[11:35] <railz> hello, i'm upgrading my friends box from hoary to dapper, i have the live cd with me
[11:35] <Silenti-Ambulo> !restricted > Silenti-Ambul
[11:35] <] GoldenDragon> hmm.. hitting enter loads ubuntu through liveCD
[11:35] <TheGateKeeper> digitalpenguin: and when you tried to install synaptic you entered sudo apt-get install synaptic, (you didn't miss the the sudo ?? ) did you ??
[11:35] <railz> can I use the live cd as a source for sources.list?
[11:36] <Silenti-Ambulo> !restricted
[11:36] <] GoldenDragon> (i can telll.. cuz it says "adding liveCD user"
[11:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:36] <gnomefreak> Silenti-Ambulo: ubotu already pmed you with it
[11:36] <Otacon22> Dodzey, tnx for all
[11:36] <owen_> do i enable multiverse repos in all channels gnomefreak?
[11:36] <UbuntuJulez> what is the rename command in terminal?
[11:36] <digitalpenguin> TheGateKeeper: nope its there
[11:36] <YesDad> no
[11:36] <dr_willis> !shell
[11:36] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[11:36] <stefg> ] GoldenDragon: too late, you missed it, it already boots... start over
[11:36] <dr_willis> lol
[11:36] <gnomefreak> owen_: did you read the page ubotu sent you? it tells you the easiest way to do it
[11:36] <] GoldenDragon> so what do i do? go to the text interface.. and press esc?
[11:36] <Ademan> UbuntuJulez: its mv
[11:36] <floppyears> hi
[11:36] <TheGateKeeper> digitalpenguin: try this: sudo dpkg --configure -a  I think you have broken packages see if it does anything
[11:37] <] GoldenDragon> or go there.. press enter and then esc?
[11:37] <Falcon4> mm.... anyone? ideas? or is everyone clueless like last time (or just swamped with other questions?)
[11:37] <Ademan> mv <old> <new> iirc
[11:37] <TheGateKeeper> !fix
[11:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about fix - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:37] <floppyears> what's the ubuntu way of installing the latest ubuntu kernel ?
[11:37] <digitalpenguin> TheGateKeeper: got the error
[11:37] <mnelson_> when anyone does the !whatever, I don't get a message
[11:37] <digitalpenguin> TheGateKeeper: i have tried that partyt
[11:37] <mnelson_> :/
[11:37] <digitalpenguin> TheGateKeeper: part*
[11:37] <mnelson_> !universe
[11:37] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:37] <owen_> yes I read it, I enabled the repos in the wrong channel, sorry - was suppost to choose sources
[11:37] <benjib> Hey, I have a wierd network prob with Ubuntu: I can ping domain names and browse the web using ip addresses, but I can't seem to resolve web addresses. It's not my internet connection (it works in windows) - does anyone have any ideas?
[11:37] <Dodzey> dooglus, any look with OneStroke?
[11:37] <Ademan> anyone here use a GRUB splash?
[11:37] <stefg> ] GoldenDragon: grub is _BEFORE_ booting... if it already boots, the kernel is in control. we want the _PRE-BOOT_  environment of grub
[11:38] <TheGateKeeper> digitalpenguin: when did you install?
[11:38] <digitalpenguin> TheGateKeeper: install what linux?
[11:38] <TheGateKeeper> digitalpenguin: yes
[11:38] <digitalpenguin> TheGateKeeper: last night
[11:38] <digitalpenguin> TheGateKeeper: havent done anything to it really except update it
[11:39] <] GoldenDragon> yeah, i got that... but that means... i should press esc before it loads the liveCD's screen... saying "start or install ubuntu"
[11:39] <] GoldenDragon> right?
[11:39] <floppyears> anybody ?
[11:39] <stefg> yes
[11:39] <TheGateKeeper> digitalpenguin: apt-get has never worked?
[11:39] <floppyears> how can I install the latest ubuntu kernel ?
[11:39] <digitalpenguin> TheGateKeeper: it has
[11:39] <sherz> I have a Bluetoothproblem I get with dmesg Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager initialized
[11:39] <sherz> [17208782.436000]  Bluetooth: HCI socket layer initialized
[11:39] <digitalpenguin> TheGateKeeper: last night i got a few things
[11:39] <acojlo> how-to on cpu freq monitor? I want to use performance?
[11:40] <lufis> How do I get the stupid ChanServ to quit sending me messages?
[11:40] <sherz> but hcitool scan
[11:40] <sherz> Device is not available: No such device
[11:40] <digitalpenguin> TheGateKeeper: but then i had a problem getting java5 last night come to think of it
[11:40] <dooglus> Dodzey: I can't run onestroke in GNOME at all: "The program 'onestroke' received an X Window System error."
[11:40] <printk> floppyears: apt-get install linux-686 for example will get you ubuntu's current 686 linux kernel
[11:40] <] GoldenDragon> I've been tapping esc while booting but that screen still comes up
[11:40] <Dodzey> dooglus: crazy....runs fine here, except for the fact that it won't send key events to the windows
[11:40] <stefg> esc, esc, esc
[11:40] <floppyears> printk: is it possible to figure out what kernel version it is before it installs it ?
[11:40] <] GoldenDragon> yeah, esc
[11:41] <dooglus> Dodzey: I'm not running dapper - maybe that's the difference
[11:41] <technel> So I purchased a Maxtor external hard drive. I have the Ubuntu "diskmounter" script and it mounts my other partition, but even with the drive connected and on (the light is green), it doesn't show up on the desktop
[11:41] <dooglus> Dodzey: are you wanting to use it for typing?  or for other stuff?
[11:41] <printk> floppyears: sure use aptitude or synaptic or dselect to view what version it is
[11:41] <digitalpenguin> TheGateKeeper: you think it might be a bad install of linux?
[11:41] <Dodzey> dooglus: yeah....maybe....i'll have to check out dasher, i might have more success
[11:41] <dr_willis> technel,  is it fdisked and formated?
[11:41] <technel> dr_willis, I literally just took it out of the box, so no
[11:42] <Dodzey> dooglus: ahha...its compiz that causes it....switched to metacity and it works fine
[11:42] <TheGateKeeper> digitalpenguin: not from what you have just told me I think you have broken pacakages
[11:42] <dooglus> Dodzey: dasher is for typing with the mouse - you steer around a graphical field of letters to spell out words - it's quite fun, and works really well
[11:42] <dr_willis> technel,  there ya go. :P its totally blank.. no filesystem no nothing.
[11:42] <dr_willis> !disk
[11:42] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[11:42] <technel> dr_willis, I can't do an fdisk because I don't know what the name of hte drive is
[11:42] <dr_willis> technel,  check out dmesg output. or just run gparted and see what it sees
[11:42] <floppyears> printk: thanks
[11:42] <digitalpenguin> TheGateKeeper: ah well thats better then bad linux install
[11:42] <stefg> technel: sudo fdik -l will tell
[11:42] <gdb> technel: fdisk -l -- that will search for disks and tell you all of them.
[11:42] <stefg> thats fdisk -l
[11:42] <] GoldenDragon> even using the "boot from hard disk" option on that screen.. and tapping esc i get nothing (ecept the underscore.)
[11:43] <stefg> ] GoldenDragon: if you are at that screnn then press 'c'  command line
[11:43] <digitalpenguin> TheGateKeeper: right?
[11:43] <technel> stefg, gdb, Only three show up: NTFS/Linux/SWAP
[11:44] <owen_> I seemed to have followed all the steps on the page, reloaded all the sources, still wont find the flashplugin-nonfree
[11:44] <mnelson_> how do I edit sources.list?
[11:44] <mnelson_> I need to remove the last line
[11:44] <floppyears> printk: the one that shows in there is a little older than what I need. it shows 2.6.15-24 and I need the one that ends in 26
[11:44] <mwe> mnelson_: you make a backup. then sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:44] <] GoldenDragon> which screen?
[11:44] <mnelson_> doh, I didn't think to sudo. thanks
[11:44] <mwe> mnelson_: don't forget the backup part
[11:45] <|Bilbo|> Everytime I do a dist upgrade the newest kernel doesn't boot. I get a Grub "Error 18." So have have to boot to the previous kernel. Anyone know a way to fix this?
[11:45] <TheGateKeeper> digitalpenguin: you either need someone with more knowledge than I have to fix the broken packages, or find them, then remove them, otherwise a reinstall and use http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories to modify your repos and this to install java etc: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper other usefull links on my little home site: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/home
[11:45] <printk> floppyears: maybe run apt-get update
[11:46] <floppyears> ok
[11:46] <mnelson_> also don't tell me to use nano *shakes fist*
[11:46] <mnelson_> vi thx
[11:46] <digitalpenguin> TheGateKeeper: ah ok so maybe reinstalling linux is a good idea
[11:46] <TheGateKeeper> digitalpenguin: sorry I can't be more help
[11:46] <mwe> mnelson_: 
[11:46] <printk> printk: once the update finishes see if it updates what version you can install
[11:46] <digitalpenguin> TheGateKeeper: and then just start from scratch
[11:46] <Frankenstein> digitalpenguin, why do you need to reinstall?
[11:46] <digitalpenguin> TheGateKeeper: no man you hvae been a huge help
[11:47] <printk> floppyears:: once the update finishes see if it updates what version you can install
[11:47] <GoldenDragon> can i possibly just look at what's in my mbr?
[11:47] <TheGateKeeper> digitalpenguin: hang on...
[11:47] <digitalpenguin> Frankenstein: i have broken packages somewhere and im really new and have no idea how to fix them
[11:47] <[Wiebel] > Muh
[11:47] <Frankenstein> digitalpenguin, what version of ubuntu
[11:47] <[Wiebel] > any other good jukebox tools besides rhythmbox?
[11:47] <karim> is there a clipboard manager for gnome ?
[11:47] <[Wiebel] > for gnome
[11:47] <redcard> Banshee.. and beep.
[11:48] <digitalpenguin> Frankenstein: Linux version 2.6.15-26-386
[11:48] <[Wiebel] > beep is not realy a jukebox
[11:48] <Frankenstein> digitalpenguin, breezy, dapper, what?
[11:48] <Frankenstein> :P
[11:48] <TheGateKeeper> Frankenstein: don't know if you can help but digitalpenguin I think has broken pacakages, unable to get apt-get to install anything, sources.list as far as I can see are ok
[11:48] <Falcon4> sigh. simpler question then. with losetup, should /dev/loop0 be a file or a folder??
[11:48] <redcard> [Wiebel] : Well, it is .. I mean, you can do playlists and the like..
[11:48] <TheGateKeeper> Frankenstein: dapper I checked
[11:48] <railz> ok i put in the livecd and it automatically added it to the sources.list but even after doing reload it's not showing the dapper updates available
[11:48] <digitalpenguin> Frankenstein: i dunno if i have anything i just installed linux last night
[11:48] <mwe> Falcon4: a device file
[11:48] <[Wiebel] > redcard: well it's not exactly what I need :P
[11:49] <railz> trying to update a hoary box to dapper from the livecd instead of downloading all the packages
[11:49] <redcard> Well, then rhythmbox is it.
[11:49] <mwe> Falcon4: it should be present
[11:49] <TheGateKeeper> digitalpenguin: you have dapper
[11:49] <Falcon4> mwe: ... is that somehow different from a... blank text file?
[11:49] <redcard> For Gnome.  Banshee is GTK#.
[11:49] <Falcon4> i had /loop but no /loop0
[11:49] <printk> railz: its gona be easy to do it with apt
[11:49] <mwe> Falcon4: yes
[11:49] <digitalpenguin> TheGateKeeper: ok
[11:49] <stefg> Falcon4: as vulcanian logic will tell you a loopback- _file_ has to be a .. ermmm.. file, not a folder
[11:49] <Falcon4> well, what's a device file and how do i make one? =\
[11:49] <digitalpenguin> TheGateKeeper: what is dapper and breezy?
[11:49] <mwe> Falcon4: is the loopback module loaded?
[11:49] <Falcon4> hey. you MOUNT to empty folders, so hell!
[11:49] <Silenti-Ambulo> DVD-Video is still not working, not even a homevideo I created
[11:49] <Falcon4> assume...
[11:49] <mwe> Falcon4: you don't make it manually
[11:49] <carloscurotto> hello everyone!
[11:50] <Falcon4> ahh. well, i don't know anything about modules :(
[11:50] <mwe> Falcon4: udev takes care of it if the driver is loaded
[11:50] <railz> printk: ya i was going to do it with apt in the end, i just want to make sure before i start it's actually seeing the packages
[11:50] <TheGateKeeper> digitalpenguin: dapper is the current release of ubuntu, breezy was the one previous
[11:50] <Falcon4> simply, i'm getting this:
[11:50] <carloscurotto> i am from argentina, and need help :(, can i ask here?
[11:50] <Falcon4> root@ubuntu:~# losetup /dev/loop0 /media/usbdisk/PhysicalDisk0.img
[11:50] <Falcon4> ioctl: LOOP_SET_FD: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[11:50] <ucordes> i hate windows
[11:50] <railz> and even though the dapper cd is the only one in the list it's not displaying any updates available
[11:50] <digitalpenguin> TheGateKeeper: gotcha
[11:50] <digitalpenguin> Frankenstein: so can you possibly help me out
[11:51] <Frankenstein> digitalpenguin, one seccond, may i ask how you installed ubuntu?
[11:51] <timeisswift> carloscurotto: Just ask your question, if someone is around that knows the answer they'll respond :)
[11:51] <mwe> Falcon4: well the losetup syntax seems correct to me
[11:51] <EdwardL> Hello.
[11:51] <Silenti-Ambulo> gnomefreak it's still not working
[11:51] <digitalpenguin> Frankenstein: livecd
[11:51] <stefg> Falcon4: first yo need an empty file, that could be created with dd if=/dev/zero of=my_loop_file bs=1M count=[number_how_megabytes] 
[11:51] <mwe> Falcon4: does lsmod confirm the module is loaded?
[11:51] <digitalpenguin> Frankenstein: then just clicked install when it booted up
[11:52] <EdwardL> I hear you guys are 1337.
[11:52] <Falcon4> stefg: well, we're talking about a 20gb raw drive image file here
[11:52] <|Bilbo|> anyone ever run into the grub error 18?
[11:52] <EdwardL> At Linux.
[11:52] <printk> EdwardL: not sure what 1337 means
[11:52] <stefg> Falcon4: so this is already there?
[11:52] <dr_willis> :)
[11:52] <TheGateKeeper> Frankenstein:   digitalpenguin: everything ok untill you tried to install java correct?
[11:52] <EdwardL> Leet. Elite.
[11:52] <carloscurotto> here is the problem: i have installed ubuntu 5.04 beacouse my computer dont have enough memory for the new 6.06, i have a network card ISA and the system did not detected it
[11:52] <Silenti-Ambulo> Can anyone help me with DVD-video ???
[11:52] <owen_> is 18,427 packages in synaptic what im suppost to have? or is there suppost to be more?
[11:53] <Falcon4> stefg: i'm trying to sort through all these join, parts, and chats... :o
[11:53] <digitalpenguin> TheGateKeeper: Frankenstein: I believe so
[11:53] <carloscurotto> the card is: chipset RTL8019AS
[11:53] <niall> guys could you name an alternetive windows/ubuntu poker game
[11:53] <threeonefour> i have problems with a floppy drive HELPPPPPP
[11:53] <DanaG|Away> Is there an advanced install on the Ubuntu LiveDVD?
[11:53] <Falcon4> okay, lsmod shows a whole lot of stuff i don't know about...
[11:53] <whizz-> i have been chatting on a back-up computer, but now i want to append those chat logs to the ones already on my regular.. can this be done?
[11:53] <DanaG|Away> I used the OEM one because it gave me more options.
[11:53] <mwe> Falcon4: using a script that filters joins/parts/quits is nice in here 
[11:53] <Entity> When can I get help with a little question regarding disabling the compiz icon the gnome menu?
[11:53] <dr_willis> DanaG|Away,  i dont think the live cd has as many options
[11:54] <Falcon4> mwe: scripts are sooo... so far over my head at this moment in my linux life :P
[11:54] <eternaljoy> anyone know of a free URL forwarding/redirection Service that is free from popups?
[11:54] <EdwardL> Tell me. Can one replace a Linux kernel without rebooting?
[11:54] <mwe> Falcon4: I just downloaded one
[11:54] <Falcon4> while i'm looking for loop in the module list, what am i looking for?
[11:54] <mwe> Falcon4: and put it in ~/.xchat/
[11:54] <printk> EdwardL: it'd be difficult to load it without rebooting
[11:54] <carloscurotto> have you got any idea what to do? i was trying for days....
[11:54] <dr_willis> EdwardL,  theres some work going on in that area.. but not really doable.
[11:54] <Silenti-Ambulo> Can anyone help me with DVD-video ???
[11:55] <Falcon4> i see "lp", is that it?
[11:55] <mwe> !dvd
[11:55] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:55] <digitalhav0c> sup people
[11:55] <dr_willis> Silenti-Ambulo,  be a little more verbose in the problem>?
[11:55] <niall> hey guys could someone name a good alternetive windows/ubuntu poker game
[11:55] <stefg> Falcon4: on a stock kernel it's already there... a simple mount -o loop my_image_file /mnt will do the job
[11:55] <timeisswift> How do I decrease the icon size in gnome? My 1024 x 768 is being eaten by wasted icon space :(
[11:55] <EdwardL> Funny. My father does it all the time with his Linux machines (both work lap-top & servers).
[11:55] <dr_willis> niall,  go to freshmeat.net or the 'linux game tome' and serch for games
[11:55] <Falcon4> stefg: it's a raw drive image, mount is expecting a partition image :(
[11:55] <Frankenstein> digitalpenguin, type: sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list, sudo rm -rf /etc/apt/sources.list, nano /etc/apt/sources.list, than go here: http://rafb.net/paste/results/iGthT782.html copy that without the number into your terminal by right clicking in your terminal screen than paste, than save by pressing ctrl + x, y (for yes) than enter, than run sudo apt-get update, once that runs though and there are no errors (if there are errors run it agai
[11:55] <Frankenstein> n as the ubuntu servers are usually pretty hammered on and will sometimes take a while) run sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:55] <digitalhav0c> anyone know how to change the sub net mask on the dhcp client im trying to setup and wireless card using ndiswrapper
[11:55] <printk> EdwardL: then ask your dad
[11:55] <digitalhav0c> i have th card working
[11:55] <Silenti-Ambulo> Dr_willis: I can't play DVD-movies, I can read data-DVD's... I tried the manuels the send me, but still no go...
[11:55] <stefg> Falcon4: oh, i see
[11:56] <threeonefour> carloscurotto go to channel #id10t
[11:56] <printk> EdwardL: i think you're confused on what he is doing, he is not upgrading his kernel and then using that new kernel without a reboot... I promise
[11:56] <railz2> damn got disconnected
[11:56] <yorde> use sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 for dvd vidio
[11:56] <digitalhav0c> but when i run dhclient wlan0 its running on 255.255.255.255.255 not 255.255.255.0
[11:56] <Falcon4> so i need a way to skip the first 512 bytes or so
[11:56] <mwe> digitalhav0c: well dhcp is supposed to configure that
[11:56] <EdwardL> Well, I'm fine with my father. It is just this Emon (and apparently you) that say it is 100% impossible.
[11:56] <railz2> this is the only line i have active in sources.list
[11:56] <railz2> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 6.06 _Dapper Drake_ - Release i386 (20060531)] / dapper main restricted
[11:56] <digitalhav0c> Listening on LPF/wlan0/00:13:49:2a:d3:76
[11:56] <digitalhav0c> Sending on   LPF/wlan0/00:13:49:2a:d3:76
[11:56] <digitalhav0c> Sending on   Socket/fallback
[11:56] <digitalhav0c> DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 8
[11:56] <digitalhav0c> DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 21
[11:56] <mwe> digitalhav0c: you don't set submask and so manually if you use dhcp
[11:56] <Falcon4> this is really stressing me the heck out. where's that thing that shuts off all these damn joins/parts??
[11:57] <printk> EdwardL: not impossible... just not very likely and a bad choice all together.
[11:57] <mwe> digitalhav0c: don't paste here
[11:57] <timeisswift> silenti-ambulo: DVD playback won't work by default due to the encryption / region codes DVDs have. I don't know the steps to unlock it, but it takes some work.
[11:57] <railz2> when i put in the cd it added this for me, it asked to start the pkg manager or start the upgrade
[11:57] <nocarrier> hello all
[11:57] <dboaba> hey, can anyone help me with some problems booting into ubuntu on osx
[11:57] <fistandantilus> Falcon4: try /ignore #ubuntu JOINS PARTS
[11:57] <carloscurotto> going there, thanks threeonefour!
[11:57] <Falcon4> kid jumping around like a psychotic freak breaking things and i've gotta figure out this whole world of linux :(
[11:57] <mwe> digitalhav0c: that's broadcast
[11:57] <railz2> i just wanted to add it and then I was going to exit X and do it at the cmd line with apt
[11:57] <digitalhav0c> mwe sorry
[11:57] <Silenti-Ambulo> I got the CSS package installed.... timeisswift
[11:57] <nocarrier> anyone available to check out my IRC server?
[11:57] <sasalli> hi me again. I fix partition problem. There is indicator of formatting. when it's on %100, it's disapear. installation can't continue.what is that?
[11:57] <mwe> digitalhav0c: it's broadcasting
[11:57] <Falcon4> No such command?
[11:57] <railz2> but with that line I'm not seeing the dapper updates
[11:57] <fistandantilus> Falcon4: what irc program are you using?
[11:57] <dr_willis> Falcon4,  what irc cluent you using?
[11:57] <dr_willis> :)
[11:58] <mwe> digitalhav0c: trying to find a suitable DHCP server
[11:58] <Falcon4> umm... that thing that has "AIM" in the name
[11:58] <fistandantilus> who doesnt have /ignore i thought that was universal heh
[11:58] <Falcon4> Gaim.
[11:58] <dboaba> does anyone have experience with booting from an external hd?
[11:58] <dr_willis> gaim  - is not that great for irc. Install xchat :P
[11:58] <Jack_Sparrow> I installed Ubuntu on a machine that had no modem.  I just added a modem to com 1.. a hardware modem.  how can I get Ub to see it?
[11:58] <marshall__> hey guys
[11:58] <dr_willis> !dialup
[11:58] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[11:59] <digitalpenguin> Frankenstein_BRB: hey i get an error right off the bat saying :cp: missing destination file operand after `/etc/apt/sources.list'
[11:59] <sasalli> hi
[11:59] <owen_> is 18,424 packages on synaptic what im suppost to have? or should I have more?
[11:59] <marshall__> one of my dvd rom drives doesnt show up in Computer
[11:59] <digitalhav0c> it doesn't change the sub net mask
[11:59] <digitalhav0c> while serching
[11:59] <printk> owen_: sounds right to me
[11:59] <marshall__> any idea why it might not?
[11:59] <dboaba> who here uses ubuntu on macc?
[11:59] <dboaba> *mac
[11:59] <printk> owen_: depends on how many and what repos you have
[11:59] <sasalli> hi me again. I fix partition problem. There is indicator of formatting. when it's on %100, it's disapear. installation can't continue.what is that?
[11:59] <digitalhav0c> stay on 255.***.....
[11:59] <railz2> is there some trick i'm not seeing to upgrade a distro from the cd?
[11:59] <nocarrier> can someone log on my IRC server for a minute?
[11:59] <Frankenstein_BRB> digitalpenguin, OOPS, just woke up man, tottaly missed that
[12:00] <Frankenstein_BRB> digitalpenguin, type: sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.backup, sudo rm -rf /etc/apt/sources.list, nano /etc/apt/sources.list, than go here: http://rafb.net/paste/results/iGthT782.html copy that without the number into your terminal by right clicking in your terminal screen than paste, than save by pressing ctrl + x, y (for yes) than enter, than run sudo apt-get update, once that runs though and there are no
[12:00] <Frankenstein_BRB>  (if there are errors run it again as the ubuntu servers are usually pretty hammered on and will sometimes take a while) run sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:00] <railz2> i just wanted to add the cd source to sources.list and apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:00] <sashok__> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=462877 -- has anyone ever solved this problem?
[12:00] <owen_> i could not find the flashplugin-nonfree that gnomefreak mentioned, so i just installed this mozilla flash plugin that I found
[12:00] <dboaba> anyone, please, I really want to try ubuntu out
[12:00] <sasalli> !install
[12:00] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[12:00] <printk> dboaba: ask your specific question and maybe someone can help
[12:00] <mwe> dboaba: just go ahead and ask your next question. maybe someone is able to answer it