=== Signifer [n=signifer@pool-70-16-4-230.balt.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu [12:33] pygi: pong [12:33] Burgundavia, you have a sec? [12:33] or shall we talk later today? [12:35] now works [12:36] oki, so students have less then to weeks to finish their applications... [12:36] do we hear from everyone? do we have status report and usable code from everyone? [12:37] I have not heard from anselmo or your student [12:37] amaranth and evan have stuff in the repo [12:37] ajmitch is apparently doing well [12:37] anselmo, neither have I [12:38] I hear from all my students [12:38] apparently dholbach has seen code [12:38] kinda, one isnt responsive [12:38] hm, right , other students? [12:38] jbailey's student? [12:38] no idea, I have heard nothing [12:39] will try to catch jbailey tommorow [12:39] oki, next? [12:39] Riddell's students? [12:40] not heard anything [12:40] henrik's sok is apparently proceding [12:40] uh, mvo I'll poke him tommorow [12:41] oh, the edubuntu study thing is going [12:41] so for now, needs poking: riddell, jbailey, mvo [12:41] yup, I know that, Ryan is doing great work [12:41] Henrik needs poking for his two students [12:41] vuntz also [12:41] ssflaw [12:42] and rob holand [12:42] oki, so I'll poke jbailey, mvo and riddell tommorow [12:42] could you handle the rest? [12:42] could you do it? I am going to be insanely busy the next few days [12:44] hm, so will I, but I can try,ok [12:44] hi [12:44] hey [12:44] Burgundavia: I may be doing ok, but I got called up for jury service this week [12:44] which sucks somewhat [12:44] Burgundavia, will do then ^_^ [12:45] night all :) [12:45] night === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-6-76-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === th1a [n=hoffman@pool-64-223-19-28.prov.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === th1a_ [n=th1a@pool-64-223-19-28.prov.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === th1a_ [n=th1a@pool-64-223-19-28.prov.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === Signifer [n=signifer@pool-70-16-4-230.balt.east.verizon.net] has left #edubuntu [] === gromerotw [n=guillerm@220-133-240-108.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has joined #edubuntu === gromerotw [n=guillerm@220-133-240-108.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has left #edubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === Signifer [n=signifer@pool-70-16-4-230.balt.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === caravena [n=caravena@80-55-223-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu [02:48] j #kubuntu [02:48] argh :) === caravena [n=caravena@80-55-223-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@202.149.56.110] has joined #edubuntu === th1a_ [n=th1a@pool-64-223-19-28.prov.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-6-76-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === rjian [n=rjian@203.87.182.102] has joined #edubuntu === th1a__ [n=th1a@pool-64-223-19-28.prov.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === Cornellius [n=alain@142-217-38-112.telebecinternet.net] has joined #edubuntu === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@c58-107-168-5.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #edubuntu === th1a__ [n=th1a@pool-64-223-19-28.prov.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=jono2@ubuntu/member/highvoltage] has joined #edubuntu === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ === mode/#edubuntu [-o highvoltage] by highvoltage === x12385 [i=BUSH@24.231.46.237] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd [n=richard@dsl-146-134-244.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === Yagisan_ [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #edubuntu [08:59] hey Yagisan_ [08:59] hi RichEd [09:00] G'day cbx33 [09:02] hi Yagisan howz it going [09:02] busy. Had some nice work yesterday [09:02] :) [09:03] yeh? [09:04] cbx33, yes. Had to fix a compromised Windows box [09:04] ooooh cool [09:04] I've done that before [09:04] someone had installed an smtp server on there [09:04] client was very happy. I drop off an Ubuntu CD for him to try when I'm next there [09:04] was sending tonnes of spam [09:04] Yagisan, ahahahah === RichEd [n=richard@dsl-146-134-244.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [09:06] RichEd, any outcome yet? [09:06] hello [09:06] hi cbx33 ... [09:07] yes, decision, but unfortunately not in support :( [09:07] ok cool [09:07] Right I want to make an apology for not getting the meeting minutes done of late [09:07] I think I have missed two weeks [09:07] the policy at this stage is that Canonical will support groups who have a stand, and want to promote Edubuntu [09:08] I can see not why it was always so difficult for JaneW to keep up [09:08] s/not/now [09:08] but it is not commercially possible to pay for stands ... with one exception [09:08] RichEd, yeh, that's fine [09:09] I knew that would be the answer anyway so I'm not supprised [09:09] if there is an IT in education conference, where various Linux flavours are competing for prominence, Edubuntu should consider representation [09:09] re minutes, not significant if you can catch up [09:10] roughly how much does a stand cost? I have no idea [09:10] Laser_away, a lot [09:11] $900 per square metre [09:11] On the conference note, following my discussions with Mark, I'll share later this week where we stand, and what the targets are for the next 12 months. [09:11] hey guys [09:11] ok RichEd [09:12] what about the other stuff like edubuntu packs [09:12] cbx33: wow!! [09:12] Laser_away, yup [09:12] In brief, at this stage, we are a "cost expense to canonical" and need to move towards self-sufficiency (cost vs income). [09:12] right [09:12] so basically a no go on pretty much everything [09:12] There are some set steps to acheiving this, and the order of execution & promotion is important. [09:13] No, that was in refefernce to my above thread ! [09:13] Packs & support, yes. T-Shirts, disks, stickers. Case studies on the way. [09:13] ah right cool [09:13] yay [09:13] community booths would be hot with those [09:14] So we can assist other people already with a promotion vehicle. [09:14] http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/06/another-powerbook-violently-explodes/ [09:14] RichEd: does Canonical sell commercial support for Edubuntu? [09:14] Any event, conference or promotion or school-open-day ... can all request support. [09:15] Laser_away: sure [09:15] Laser_away: not yet ... there has been no call (for desktop) [09:15] its still Ubuntu [09:15] But is is an area that can be explored ... where it makes sense. [09:16] RichEd: you need to get Edubuntu into universities with lots of grant money ;-) [09:16] edubuntu classroom server support seems to have potential [09:16] e.g. If an Education department standardises on Edubuntu desktop ... they may want support [09:17] e.g. If an Education department standardises on Edubuntu servers ... they may want support [09:17] but 1 server in one classroom is probably not a proposition from either side [09:17] hi jsgotangco [09:17] RichEd: hey! === RichEd will be busy for a while ... i'll be here ... but not too attentive [09:19] sure sure [09:20] i made a 30 page slide on Edubuntu === Laser_away goes back away ;-) [09:20] its very very basic [09:35] good mornign everyone [09:42] 'lo hi' === pygi [n=pygi@89-172-224-213.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu [09:59] :) [09:59] locate ogra [10:03] *database non-existant* [10:27] hi ... anyone seen ogra or rodarvus around lately ? [10:35] RichEd: saw today's wikipedia featured article? [10:35] not yet ... wossit about ? [10:44] highvoltage: you talkin' about chippy & shabby & zoomie ? [10:44] RichEd: hehe, yes [10:45] a sorry state of affairs ... or to be accurate a sorry affair of the state ") === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu [10:47] i see ubuntu was a featured article recently ... pity we caught a saturday when people weren't browsing at work [10:47] hi ogra :) [10:47] hey ogra [10:48] hey [10:48] ogra: can I specify another NFS root than /opt/ltsp/i386 in the tftpboot kernel line? do you know if I can use root=/opt/ltsp/other? [10:49] i'll chat to you a bit later ogra ... we may need to set up a short meeting tomorrow with rodarvus to go through some things. [10:49] you can specify anything you like in your dhcpd.conf [10:49] RichEd, fine with me :) [10:50] ogra: when we see rodarvus popping his head in, we can discuss a time ... i'll need to send an agenda to you before hand [10:50] highvoltage, i can specify different chroots for i386 and powerpc ... but there is no easy way to distinguish between amd64 and i386 on dhcp level [10:51] but on a personal note, hope all is well with your new accomodation, and that you are settled & comfortable (in all aspects) [10:52] well, i'm painting the new office alongside my workday :) but its all fine [10:52] did a lot of work on local device support over the weekend ... [10:53] watch out for those paint fumes in confinmed spaces ... can make your computer screen go a bit fuzzy & woozy after prolonged exposure [10:54] (unless you like that sort if thing ... then breathe deeply) [10:54] of <- if [10:55] i'm a strong smoker, the tar will prevent the poison from entering my loungs ;) [11:00] ogra: aah, i should've known. took a sinus pill this morning now my head is screwed up [11:01] ouch [11:01] RichEd: getting of and if confused can be dangerous with some commands ;) [11:01] ogra: what you *could* do is look at the mac address (different mother boards -> probably different chipsets), but that would require a shitload of seperate work since dhcpd doesn't allow wildcards in the MAC's I think [11:01] yep [11:02] different chipsets -> different MAC chipset -> different prefix in MAC address [11:02] but many people do that for their lts.conf already, so that would only be a lot of copy paste work :) [11:03] oh and btw: ltsp-client sucks monkey balls [11:03] you can also hack stuff into dhcp like verdor strings etc if you use a rom-o-matic image... but that will not work with plain PXE ... [11:04] Chipzz, oh, why ? it does what it should ... [11:04] I ended up just dpkg -P 'ing it, and brewing my own shit [11:04] in fact its only a single initscript and a bunch of dependencys [11:04] ogra: startx doesn't do what you think it should do; startx is supposed to run xinit, but instead launches X -query [11:04] also, the arguments for the syntax is not what you'ld expect [11:05] its the documented ltsp syntax ... [11:05] second, I get no keyboard input in X using the startx method [11:05] would be news to me that it differs [11:05] ogra: startx on command-line -> .xinitrc ; startx in ltsp -> X -query [11:05] i didnt do the startx implementation though ... debian is the only one who userd it so far [11:06] that's just confusing and retarded [11:06] then lets fi it in edgy ;) you are the first ubuntu user playing with it afaik :) [11:06] s/fi/fix/ [11:06] startx -- -br on the commandline, "startx -br" in ltsp config [11:07] well, thats trivial to fix ... :) [11:07] only important thing is that we dont differ too much from the ltsp.org docs [11:07] but worse... keyboard plainly does not work at all when using the startx methyod [11:07] did you check xorg.conf ? [11:07] is the entry in there at all ? [11:08] I did, and running X from an init-script does give me keyboard input [11:08] thats weird ... shounds like an X bug [11:08] which is what I'm doing now [11:08] it should just pick up xorg.conf settings [11:08] ogra: I think it's related to the fact that we start X with start-stop-daemon or such [11:09] doesn't start-stop-daemon close the input and output descriptors of that process in order to daemonize it? [11:09] might be, i made a note on my TODO ... i'll look into it [11:09] the startx scripts, is that ours or ltsps? [11:09] for now i have some more elementary probs to solve to get ltsp working at all ;) [11:10] i think thats ported from ltsp [11:10] so changing the semantics to make it use startx and/or xinit would be a break from upstream and their docs? :/ [11:10] as i said, i didnt touch it ... i'll ask petter (pere from skolelinux) if he's around again [11:11] well, we plan to merge with upstream, so we should use their syntax where possible indeed [11:21] lol. it would help if I changed the root-path in the right dhcpd.conf :) [11:22] heh [11:25] ogra: ltsp chroot didn't build :( [11:26] how did it fail ? [11:27] 11:26 < lucasvo> Unpacking xserver-xorg (from .../xserver-xorg_1%3a7.0.22ubuntu7_all.deb) ... [11:27] (ltsp-update-sshkeys and ltsp-update-kernels isnt run yet) [11:27] 11:26 < lucasvo> xserver-xorg config warning: failed to infer keyboard layout from layout/lang '10 debian-installer/keymap doesn't exist--10 debian-installer/language doesn't exist' [11:27] 11:26 < lucasvo> Server symlink checksum doesn't exist. We need to make it [11:27] thats fine [11:27] 11:27 < lucasvo> I'll try again [11:27] its only a warning, not an error [11:27] and why does it abort afterwards [11:28] oh, well in that case it doesn't give me a warining at all [11:28] it just aborted [11:28] I don't have the logs any more, I'll build again [11:28] yep, redirect it to a logfile [11:36] ogra: installing ltspfs on the server is enough? no configuration needed? [11:38] no, you need a bunch of scripts i'm currently writing :) [11:38] :P [11:39] ltsp-client needs a way to start ltspfsd, udev needs two rules scripts for mount/umount [11:39] and /tmp/drives needs to be created by the ltsp-client initscript [11:40] then you are able to manually mount it to the user session ... [11:40] the automatic part is done by a script thats currently in the works here [11:40] here you go: http://pastebin.ca/120365 [11:42] does `/opt/ltsp/i386/etc/apt/sources.list' exist ? [11:43] looks like an apt problem [11:45] re you sure you have enough diskspace ? [11:46] and did you delete the old chroot before starting over ? === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu [11:48] /dev/hda1 24G 16G 7.6G 67% / [11:48] ok [11:48] cat sources.list: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main restricted [11:48] can you run it again with the --debug flag ? [11:49] it will only show module info so far, but that can probably give us a hint [11:49] thats i386 ? [11:49] yes === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@ubuntu/member/rodarvus] has joined #edubuntu [12:10] hello rodarvus ... how's things ? [12:24] ogra: just failed once again [12:24] http://pastebin.ca/120425 [12:24] lucasvo, log ? [12:24] ah [12:27] if i could reach pastebin.ca that would help ... [12:27] hi RichEd! [12:27] rodarvus: can we make a time for a 30 min meeting tomorrow ? ogra + rodarvus + RichEd [12:28] ogra: these pastebins are crap [12:28] all fine, wife & daughter just left to work/school - a new day (and week!) is coming :) [12:28] but pastebin.com is even worse [12:28] RichEd, sure, I'll be available all day long from 11:00 AM to 09:00 PM [12:28] I can wake up early if needed be, too [12:28] ogra, nobody can [12:29] lucasvo, paste on ubuntu pastebin [12:29] paste.ubuntu.nl or something :) [12:29] pygi, i can after 10 mins or so ... [12:29] 11:00 AM to 09:00 PM <- UTC ? [12:29] in 30 mins ? [12:29] voip or IRC ? [12:29] RichEd, yes, UTC [12:30] (thats 08:00 AM to 06:00 PM localtime) [12:30] lucasvo, that looks really not like an ltsp problem ... either you cant access the packages from the archive or something weird with your apt is going on [12:30] I usually start the day before that (at 07:30 AM) but it depends if my wife is late for work or not :P [12:31] great ... ogra ? pick a time between 11:00 and 15:00 UTC ? 30 mins ? [12:34] ogra: so what am I supposed to do to get the chroot working? [12:34] lucasvo, [12:34] Building dependency tree... [12:34] laptop-detect is already the newest version. [12:34] The following extra packages will be installed: [12:34] how does laptop-detect end up there ? did you delete the old chroot before running the script ` [12:34] ? [12:34] yes [12:35] lucasvo, i have no idea whats wrong there, do you use a proxy or something ? [12:35] it builds fine here on all three aches [12:35] *arches [12:35] no [12:37] ogra, how do you want me to call the Edubuntu presentation that I'll be holding at UUC? [12:37] and most importantly, anything special you want me to tell? :) [12:37] "ALL YOUR SCHOOLS ARE BELONG TO US" [12:38] Edubuntu w00t! :) [12:38] dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xinit_1.0.2-0ubuntu1_i386.deb (--unpack): [12:38] trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man5/Xsession.5.gz', which is also in package x11-common [12:38] lucasvo, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ [12:38] I mean,com'on, help is welcome :) [12:38] lucasvo, poke rodarvus ;) [12:38] thats his bug :) [12:38] rodarvus: I am supposed to poke you :) [12:39] ogra: it has already been filed? [12:39] no idea, i dont monitor X bugs that closely === lucasvo doesn't like the LP search interface [12:40] i suspect its a temporary thing ... likely one of the packages hasnt built yes [12:40] *yet [12:40] ok [12:40] lucasvo, no, it hasn't been fixed [12:40] how comes that your machines build fine and mine dont'? [12:40] funny stuff is it didn't happened locally [12:40] lucasvo, i use the german mirror ... thats not up to date ;) [12:40] rodarvus: ok, when will it get into the archives? [12:40] lucasvo, someday [12:41] as I said, I haven't fixed this yet [12:41] likely later today [12:41] lucasvo, I seriously doubt this is the worse bug you'll find in edgy [12:41] rodarvus: oh, I misread it, I thought you said it has been already fixed [12:41] (really :) ) [12:41] ogra: well the ch mirror is uptodate [12:41] germany is lame :P [12:41] lucky me then ;) [12:42] xinit was published early afternoon, last Friday [12:42] and x11-common ? [12:42] so I seriously doubt any mirror is not updated WRT this package [12:42] i built chroots the whole wekend just fine [12:42] x11-common is even older [12:42] *weekend [12:42] lol [12:42] ogra, yeah, thats why this bug is really strange for me [12:42] I don't have this file on package 'xinit' locally [12:43] ogra: for the germans we will release edgy a week later :P [12:43] and i dont have that problem here ... [12:43] what's the difference of locally and not? [12:43] btw, why do we install man packages in the chroot at all? [12:44] because the manpage isnt in a separate package [12:44] but man is [12:44] debian policy requires a manpage for every executable in /usr/bin or /bin [12:44] so if you ship a binary it needs to have a manpage in the package [12:52] ogra: pleae confirm if you can make a meeting in #canonical at 12:30 UTC tomorrow ? [12:57] sure, confirmed :) [12:57] nforce2 audio should work with (ed)ubuntu right ? [12:57] crimsun would know ... === Yagisan makes note to poke crimsun [12:59] thanks ogra [12:59] one of my converts is upset their sound doesn't work. As they are in Denmark, it's abit hard for me to visit and check it out myself [01:00] pfft, excuses [01:01] but, the whole reason they converted was to play a game - and they can't hear the hellish screams now === JanisLee [n=Janis@201-25-141-4.ctame704.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #edubuntu === Signifer [n=signifer@pool-70-16-4-230.balt.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu [01:57] bimberi: just looking for a kicker this week ... not a whole team :) [02:00] RichEd: hehe, we were lucky Mortlock had his kicking boots on - for once! === Petaris [n=Petaris@216.56.37.162] has joined #edubuntu === wvdl [n=User@vc-196-207-41-251.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === wvdl [n=User@vc-196-207-41-251.3g.vodacom.co.za] has left #edubuntu [] === willvdl [n=User@vc-196-207-41-251.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [02:41] http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1649619336892509014 === willvdl [n=User@vc-196-207-41-251.3g.vodacom.co.za] has left #edubuntu [] === cbx33 [n=pete@213.205.251.64] has joined #edubuntu [03:11] afternoon people [03:12] Hi cbx33 [03:12] Hey Petaris === cbx33 has finally got net connection on his phone [03:13] ahhh totally mobile computing [03:13] this is the life [03:14] sitting waiting whilst my wife has a manacure for free :p === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [03:25] that looks cool [03:25] Hi highvoltage [03:25] hi Petaris [03:27] hi highvoltage jsgotangco [03:27] hi juliux [03:27] hello juliux! [03:27] has anybody an idea what a user makes wrong if he has to use xdmcp ?? [03:27] with edubuntu === Signifer [n=signifer@pool-70-16-4-230.balt.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=pete@213.205.208.215] has joined #edubuntu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #edubuntu [03:59] hey bddebian [04:00] ping RichEd [04:01] Howdy [04:01] Hi cbx33 [04:01] hehe [04:01] howz it going, everything going accroding to plan [04:01] Never :-) [04:01] You? [04:01] bddebian: you got a sec in pm? [04:01] Yeh everything is great [04:01] Sure [04:05] ping Yagisan [04:08] cbx33: pong [04:08] RichEd: so, in terms of the edubuntu pack [04:09] is there anything else I can do to help out? === JanisLee [n=Janis@201-25-141-4.ctame704.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #edubuntu [04:11] I think I must have enormous lag here [04:12] or maybe not [04:12] hmmmm === RichEd is half busy [04:12] cbx33: will send you a mail ! [04:12] RichEd: excellent [04:13] hmmm [04:13] irssi has a problem [04:13] whoever said, "is half busy" I can't see your name? [04:13] it's white [04:14] any ideas? [04:14] RichEd is half busy (on the phone) [04:14] crikey just joining #ubuntu lost me 100K [04:14] ahhh [04:14] anyone know how I can sort out irssi [04:16] right I'm off [04:16] almost used up my free 500K [04:16] heheh [04:37] pong cbx33 [04:37] ajmitch: Did you get your authtool uploaded yet? [04:38] I'm not finding it through the package search === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-6-76-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:58] brilliant: http://www.improveverywhere.com/mission_view.php?mission_id=54 [04:59] yay, RichEd just made my evolution explode :) [05:00] seems the development version doesnt like appointment attachments :) [05:00] file a bug report : block user richard from calendaring interchange [05:00] ogra & rodarvus : ignore first date ... wed = actually tue [05:01] i doubt anyone in the company ever used or tested that feature :) so thats great, go on using it as you would expect, thats invaluable test data ;) [05:01] the desktop toolbar calendar is Sun - Sat view [05:01] evolution is Mon - Sun view [05:02] requires a mind shift whenever you check out a date, and then go to make an appointment [05:02] can't seem to see how i can change either one to look like the other === pygi [n=pygi@89-172-227-94.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu [05:03] i think its somehow based on your language/locale selection [05:03] seb128 would know ... [05:04] he's inactive now in #canonical ... will drop him a mail ... is he Mr Evolution ? [05:04] or Mr Desktop Clock ? :) [05:04] intrestingly the appointment was added to my calendar ... evo just died afterwards :) [05:04] he's Mr. Desktop [05:05] he's active in #ubuntu-devel [05:05] tx. [05:05] and in -bugs [05:05] ogra, strange, I was able to accept RichEd's invitation just fine [05:06] maybe something architecture dependant? [05:06] rodarvus, my evo might be outdated [05:06] i havnet upgraded since thursday [05:06] oh [05:06] hi ogra [05:06] hey juliux [05:07] ogra, any idea about why the users have to enable xdmcp ?? [05:07] -about [05:07] ogra: I hope "X" is not on the regexp of the excuses for not upgrading since Thursday :) [05:07] rodarvus, if i'm developing a feature i keep the last 100% working system snapshot ;) [05:07] nice [05:07] ogra: selb128 is "last msg: unknown" in #ubuntu-devel as well ... will mail him. tx. [05:08] juliux, i answered your mail [05:08] ogra, oh [05:08] they break their systems by what reason ever ... [05:08] they said they only installed edubuntu [05:08] xdmcp isnt used nor supported in *buntu [05:08] i dont belive that [05:09] ogra, ok, i was ver confused about this [05:09] ldm wont gain anything if xdmcp is enabled ... it wont use it [05:09] if they changed their IP post install, they should run ltsp-update-sshkeys ... thats the most common FAQ we have [05:10] the symptom of it is that they cant log in through ldm ... running the command solves it [05:10] that i told them [05:10] do you have an url ? [05:11] ogra, only a few forums posts [05:11]