[12:09] Riddell: sorry to bother you, but this should be the last time...is there a location for the specifics on the "Laptop Buttons Support" ? mailing list? wiki page? [12:11] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/kubuntu-laptop-buttons [12:11] nixternal: you should say that it's currently in the stage of "works for us" but feedback from more laptops is welcome [12:12] sweet...will get that posted as well === hunger [n=tobias@p54A61C59.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:22] abattoir: oem-config seems to be working, up until the Finish at least === toma [n=toma@toma.kovoks.nl] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Ooh,] === mornfall [n=mornfall@kde/developer/mornfall] has joined #kubuntu-devel === omeow [n=omega@co63471-a.olden1.ov.home.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:41] Riddell: Is there any webpage about edgy acpi management and changes from dapper ? [12:42] will edgy support suspend2 ? [12:43] This is the only thing that works on my new asus notebook (thanks to the patched ubuntu kernel) === yuriy [n=yuriy@207-172-219-193.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:53] goldenear: I'm not sure, sebas might know more about that [12:53] benc would make the decision I guess [12:54] ok, I'll ask sebas tomorrow :) [12:54] thanks [12:54] abattoir: I get erros when running the gtk frontend http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19898 [12:54] and similar with the kde frontend [12:55] KDM theme customised or already enabled, not touching kdmrc ... <== am i missing out on something? [12:55] abattoir: you have the #self.dbfilter = timezone.Timezone(self) and user lines commented out, presumably you have a reason for that [12:56] yuriy: no, it's already got the kubuntu theme set (unless you've edited it yourself) [12:56] abattoir: you're missing the self.current_page = None bit in the run() while loop, that's what allows the programme to exit [12:57] also, i'm still not sure what's wrong with my wineconfig.desktop that it doesn't show up in the new system settings [12:57] otherwise it'll keep running the mainloop [12:58] yuriy: what Categories does it have? [12:59] Categories=Qt;KDE;X-KDE-settings-system; [01:04] the old system settings had [01:04] [01:04] X-KDE-settings-system [01:04] but the new one doesn't, which is what sime was saying about needing a general put everything category [01:05] although I'm not sure what's wrong with having them in Advanced->system administration [01:05] Sime: you need to put class="showonplanet" to have the images appear on planet [01:06] Riddell: unless the kubuntu guidance package has one that's modified from SVN, Sime's userconfig has the same categories [01:06] and it shows up [01:07] yuriy: it gets listed explicitly in /etc/xdg/menus/system-settings.menu kde-mountconfig.desktop === omeow [n=omega@co63471-a.olden1.ov.home.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:08] yuriy: so for a quick fix just edit that file and add your .desktop file, but to fix properly we should add back the Category line in my opinion [01:09] Riddell: anyways, I was thinking it would be more appropriate under "advanced user settings" (or elsewhere? opinions?) [01:09] what would be the category for that? [01:13] yuriy: that's the one I'm looking at, advanced -> system [01:13] when does summer of code end? [01:13] 21st === Lathiat_ [n=lathiat@ubuntu/member/pdpc.basic.lathiat] has joined #kubuntu-devel === yuriy has no life until school starts === leonardovaz [n=lmvaz@201.21.251.95] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:29] whew [01:29] It's been quite the productive day for konversation. :) === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:30] omeow: how's that? [01:34] I filed quite a few bugs and helped test lots of things fixed and added. [01:36] anything cool coming in 0.19? [01:38] a tree view mode [01:38] http://konversation.kde.org/wiki/Plans_for_0.20 basically [01:40] so a channel list down the side? [01:40] Yes. [01:41] I won't be using it though. I like the horizontal tab bar better. [01:57] Riddell: here is the first draft of the Knot 2 Release statement for Kubuntu -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Knot2/Kubuntu [01:58] i still need to add information, but the layout and images are there [02:01] nixternal: groovy [02:02] hehe, how about rocking? [02:02] very [02:02] stuck in the 70's [02:02] those "Wallpaper & Color Scheme" need resized to be smaller [02:02] ya [02:02] i kind of thought the same [02:02] and a link to somewhere to gie feedback [02:03] nixternal: system settings, point to Sime's blog, also say that there's a couple of layout issues currently and we'll fix it to be link sime's blog's image [02:03] ok, i will create a feedback page, or is there already a feedback page? [02:05] nixternal: maybe make https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Artwork/Incoming/Kubuntu-Edgy-Ideas-Feedback [02:05] with a link to https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Artwork/Incoming/Kubuntu-Edgy-Ideas [02:05] "Easy Zeroconf Tickbox" the widgets needs highlighting somehow, circle around it or something [02:06] you are talking under the "General" tab where it says 'Enable Zeroconf network browsing'? [02:06] yes [02:06] gotcha [02:06] "shareprinter.png [02:07] hmm, no [02:07] "image displays the pop up window" needs something about how it's perfectly safe to ignore the warning if you trust your local network [02:07] ok, i didn't get a warning...but i will add that as well [02:08] final image points to edgy translation, but rosetta doesn't have edgy translations yet, change it to the equivalent dapper page [02:08] no problem..and i will leave a note letting people know that once the translations for edgy are complete, then the page will link correctly [02:10] s/complete/imported into rosetta/ [02:10] ba, kdebase failed to compile [02:10] cool [02:10] and not cool about kdebase ;( [02:11] you have a link to Sime's blog? === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.109.24] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:15] got it ;) [02:16] Systemsettings usability work for Kubuntu's Eft === poningru [n=poningru@pool-72-64-211-102.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:21] Riddell: i don't if it is in kubuntu's todo list, but why don't we have knemo by default? [02:22] leonardovaz: because knemo requires setup [02:22] hmmm... [02:22] and it's not integrated with other tools [02:22] ideal solution is knetworkmanager [02:22] i understand. and it would bring tons of things [02:22] except that has issues [02:22] do you knetstats? [02:23] I don't know of it [02:23] wait [02:23] knetload? [02:23] http://knetstats.sourceforge.net/ [02:23] that is very cool but it's a geek only thing [02:24] i know... [02:24] last week I distributed some kubuuntu CDs to my coleagues at work [02:24] knetstats looks interesting, make a package and we'll take a look :) [02:25] and one of them who uses XP asked me "how can I know if I have internet connection?" [02:26] it's a fair question [02:26] knetworkconf often gets that wrong too [02:31] Riddell: i went ahead and did everything you requested so far, except change the images..i will get to them in a bit..i have to give a lecture on Konversation for the Classroom, so I will be busy for the next hour or so [02:31] i will do the resizing, as well as point to the dapper translation page [02:32] great stuff nixternal [02:33] cool, glad you like it === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@218.18.72.96] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@218.18.72.96] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:18] Riddell: around? [03:20] Riddell: ok, anyways, i guess its too late for you...(if you havent already slept) [04:15] Riddell: if you are still awake -> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+translations [04:15] that is the image you want for the translations page? [04:18] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+sources/kdebase/+translate [04:18] actually that is the page there...im going to keep the current image, however I am going to link to that page so they can see what it will look like when completed! === yuriy [n=yuriy@207-172-219-193.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:46] umm...is the sharing of printers new to Edgy only, or new to KDE 3.5.4? [04:46] actually...it can't be new to Edgy, as I have it in Dapper === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:08] good morning [05:08] hi all :) [05:08] hi Tm_T [05:08] Hobbsee :) [05:13] Tm_T: what should i put on the agenda? === Hobbsee hasnt thought about it yet. [05:17] personal agenda? or what? === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@pool-72-64-211-102.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:20] !release [05:20] Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases === Hobbsee wonders when knot 2 is out. [05:20] !schedule [05:20] Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule [05:20] Hobbsee: soon, i am working on the release notes now ;) [05:20] nixternal: nice :) [05:20] uuh [05:21] nixternal: do we know more details than that? presumably this week... [05:21] I wonder if edgy is more usable when install it instead of upgrading [05:21] thats about it per Riddell [05:21] Tm_T: quite likely. i have all sorts of rubbish on here. [05:21] nixternal: right [05:21] :p [05:22] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Knot2/Kubuntu [05:22] that is what I am currently working on [05:24] the "Easy Printer Sharing Menu Item" as I currently have it, isn't new..actually it is in Dapper right now [05:24] there has to be something other than that to make it "Easy Printer Sharing" [05:24] nice [05:25] well, yeah. [05:25] it's less of a pain, anyway [05:25] the current information though isn't Edgy specific..as I can do exactly the same with Dapper...so if there is a new easier way to printer share in Edgy, what is it? [05:26] nixternal: actually, i think you'll find that the port message is slightly different === Hobbsee remembered discussing such a thing with Riddell, over good wording of it. [05:27] that i did notice, however what makes it new and easier? [05:27] ugh, I'll install new system to my sisters laptop [05:27] i dont think it does. well, i havent noticed, but dont tend to look === Hobbsee doenst print much. [05:27] there is still a few days before release, so i can poke Riddell tomorrow when he awakes [05:27] hehe me either [05:28] bah. sleep's overrated :P [05:28] I afraid I have to put windowmaker or equiv instead of KDE ;( [05:28] Tm_T: oh ewww. why? [05:28] Hobbsee: well, 128M ram and damn slow HD [05:29] Tm_T: hmmm...yeah, okay. [05:29] that means, when swap got hit, trrr--trrrrr---trrr-trrr, *bling* xterm is open finally ;) [05:29] hehe [05:29] Tm_T: run it as a server install? [05:30] well, I prolly install minimum system and then apt-get what is needed === Hobbsee searches for chocolate. [05:30] crimsun: what are you attacking on Knot2 right now? [05:30] trying to keep services etc as minimum as possible [05:30] take a guess. [05:30] printing i hope ;) [05:30] =) [05:30] im guessing proofing though [05:31] :'( no more chocolate [05:31] crimsun: sound stuff? [05:31] omg Hobbsee i am sick of choco right now [05:31] now shower while I'm backupping personal files from lappy -> [05:31] heh, forgot about sound stuff as well ;) === Hobbsee will have to go home for chocolate :( === poningru [n=poningru@pool-72-64-211-102.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:44] Knot2/Kubuntu proofed. [05:45] Hobbsee: don't talk about chocolate =) [05:45] Tm_T: but...but...i want chocolate :( [05:46] thanks crimsun, as you will have a lot more to do, as that was just run 1, and im sure there is more to come ;) [05:46] Hobbsee: I just ate chocolate&coffee cake for breakfast :( [05:47] I don't feel good [05:47] Tm_T: now that is scary. [05:47] yeah, leftovers from weddingparty === RichJ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:39] can't hate expert installation === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.93.13] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:43] hi abattoir [06:43] hello again, Tm_T :) === yuriy [n=yuriy@207-172-219-193.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:40] hi all === kwwii_ [n=kwwii@70.230.181.142] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:40] moin [07:41] hey kwwii_! === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.65.240] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:42] AGH [07:43] hi Tm_T. what's up? [07:43] just noticed, even expert install didn't ask packages I like to install [07:43] ah [07:44] it did ask a lot other questions as it should [07:44] so now I have full Kubuntu install [07:44] mooh, I waited 5 min to see even kmenu open =) [07:45] oh well, I just install wmaker and then start uninstall all unneeded services [07:58] hi Hobsee [07:58] hi kwwii_ === freeflying [n=freeflyi@218.18.72.96] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:58] my router has been playing games with me the last few days [07:58] although I am not sure if it is my router or my provider [07:59] things are messed up here [07:59] kwwii_: you should remember to talk nice and feed it [07:59] maybe the CIA are listening to me [08:02] wow, that killed the conversation, now everyone is scared :p [08:03] lol [08:03] kwwii_: excellent work on the artwork for Knot 2 [08:04] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Knot2/Kubuntu this is a taste of the future release, and your work is there...please look over the "feedback" for artwork and let me know if that is ok, or if you want it elsewhere [08:05] nixternal: I'll do that now [08:05] :) === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:07] nixternal: dude, that page is amazing [08:07] wow [08:07] kwwii_: you already have fixed version of that glassy kubuntu logo background thing? [08:07] I am stunned [08:07] why thank you! [08:08] Tm_T: erm, not sure I know what you mean [08:08] it only looks pretty cuz of your colors ;) [08:08] kwwii_: the wallpaper in edgy is nice :) I like it [08:08] freeflying: cool, good to hear that! [08:09] kwwii_: http://www.tm-travolta.net/pics/art/KUB1-purp-01.png [08:09] +1 as well on the wallpaper [08:09] at least it isn't bubbles ;) [08:09] kwwii_: don't even try to say I didn't say clear! ;) [08:09] Tm_T: /me drools [08:10] now *that* does look cool! [08:10] Hobbsee: see? ubuntu logo there [08:10] yep [08:10] terrible ;) [08:10] oh my sweet jesus i just flipped out of my chair at that beautiful image [08:10] blame kwwii, I just made background [08:11] Tm_T: the original pic was rendered....how did you want it fixed? I know what you are talking about, but I am still unsure as to what you want. :-) [08:11] kwwii_: kubuntu logo instead of ubuntu one [08:11] just a small detail === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@218.18.72.96] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:15] Tm: well, to be honest, it might take a little more than a week, as I loaned the computer that has the file on it to a friend...I totally forgot about it but I can take care of that when I get the file back (sorry for the wait). how did you plan to use that? I love the pic, but cannot figure out where we could use it [08:17] I have different renderings with the correct logo, they are not quite as nice, but the might do as well...I'll send them to you later if you give me your email address [08:21] I have a few things to do in the city this morning and have to leave soon...but I will be back later this afternoon/evening [08:23] kwwii_: it's not busy issue, just if I play around it some day and get something releaseable [08:23] then I might show it off in k-l.o [08:26] the next time you see me, I'll have posted the pics that I have on my server, after that I can edit the exact pic you mean and we can go from there ;-) [08:28] kwwii_: thanks, you're precious :) [08:30] Tm_T: I try to do my best :-) === kwwii_ cooks breakfast === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === danimo [n=danimo@kde/danimo] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:34] moin [08:34] hi danimo [08:34] heya Hobbsee [08:36] ls [08:36] upps :) === kwwii_ hands danimo a coffee [08:38] kwwii_: thanks dude, if only I drank coffee... [08:38] kwwii_: moin btw [08:38] hehe, I do not drink coffee either :p === Hobbsee doesnt drink coffee. [08:39] kwwii_, Hobbsee: so what is your way to get going when you have to get up early? [08:42] danimo: a shower [08:42] then a really cold cola === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:42] and a cigarette :p [08:43] kwwii_: heh, same here. I'm a i18n("bekennender Warmduscher") [08:43] kwwii_: but no cigarette and no cola :) [08:43] hehe [08:43] what'd i miss? [08:43] Hobbsee: a confession :) [08:43] danimo: ah. who and waht? [08:44] well, danima and I admitted that we are both "warmduscher" [08:44] which is? [08:44] figure that out and get back to me [08:44] Hobbsee: (hihi, "danima". talking about people who cannot use tab completion ;) [08:44] danimo: oh, thanks for the recursion stuff, btw [08:44] Hobbsee: hehe, did it help you or what? [08:45] danimo: yeah. we covered it in lectures today :P [08:45] he took an hour to explain what you did in about 10 mins. [08:45] Hobbsee: I hope you profitted then [08:45] danimo: :) [08:45] danimo: sure, i wrote the stuff for the tutorial in an hour later during the lecture :P [08:46] Hobbsee: great! [08:47] Hobbsee: I never understood recursions before uni. my school teacher constantly failed at explaining how to properly construct them [08:47] heh [08:47] hah. found the translation [08:48] Hobbsee: well, once you find the escape condition it's all cake [08:48] danimo: yeah, exactly [08:48] did your instructor approach recursion from a procedural or a functional perspective? [08:48] Hobbsee: so what is it? === Hobbsee doesnt like writing infinite loops much. [08:48] crimsun: he did it from a mangling perspecive. [08:48] Hobbsee: heh, ideally they are not inifinite [08:48] probably the former, then. [08:48] yeah, exactly [08:49] Hobbsee: C++, right? [08:49] danimo: yes [08:49] Hobbsee: procedural then [08:49] Hobbsee: what did you find? the english term for "warmduscher"? :) [08:50] danimo: wimp or something. cant look back, as firefox is throwing a large cow over opening a big file [08:51] Hobbsee: yes, but it also has a literal meaning. [08:52] Hobbsee: kwwii and I figured we both take a warm shower as a coffee substitute [08:52] Hobbsee: which is what a "warmduscher" means :) [08:52] ah [08:52] Hobbsee: not hot, not cold, just pleasantly warm [08:53] Hobbsee: if you need a german word btw: just use leo: in konq or in alt+f2 [08:54] ahhh... === Hobbsee just uses google, usually [08:54] or can translate it [08:55] leo has been invaluable for me ever since === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:04] Hobbsee, http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131956 [09:04] KDE bug 131956 in general "kickban available from context menu, but /kickban returns an error" [Wishlist,Resolved: fixed] [09:04] It wasn't in konvi before, apparently. [09:05] omeow: cool :) [09:06] it certainly was, because i used it :P [09:06] Well, then Sho changed it to wishlist thinking it wasn't. === superstoned [n=supersto@168-234.surfsnel.dsl.internl.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:26] omeow: likely. oh well. [09:26] it's fixed, i'm happy :) === Hobbsee just wants her feature implemented :) [09:28] nixternal: what you are doing here is really great! - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Knot2/Kubuntu [09:28] hey Lure, how are you doing? [09:29] Hobbsee: ok, and you? [09:29] Lure: yeah, okay, been uploading some other people's stuff, or just finding it fails to build [09:29] work soon :( [09:29] thanks Lure! with the help of the dev's and of course Riddell is what really makes that great, i just do some snapshots and type up some words ;) [09:30] I can send you new soundkonverter, which raphink and Tonio_ did not respond yet ;-) [09:30] Lure: to whom? oh, to upload? [09:30] Lure: main or universe? [09:30] hey, i just used 'leo -g warmduscher' and it said 'milksop', 'mollycoddle', and 'wimp' [09:30] lol [09:31] Lure: meeting on thursday this week, 2100 UTC. you're in the kcc, arent you? [09:31] nixternal: this is as important as doing the stuff - if we do not get message through, we do not get feedback early enough === Hobbsee can never remember. [09:31] true [09:31] nixternal: not everybody install each preview, but they may read nice announcement [09:32] true, glad I could help out...and yes Hobbsee, i know i have a manual merge, one eye open right now, tomorrow/today actually most definitiely ;) [09:32] Hobbsee: I not in kcc and not sure if I will be able to attend (have some business partners to entertain that evening) [09:32] Lure: ah okay === Hobbsee has forgotten one kcc member. [09:32] Hobbsee: allee, toma, Riddell? ;-) [09:32] me, Riddell, tonio_, raphink, toma.... [09:32] allee, that's ti. [09:32] *it [09:32] actually, it was imbrandon who said something about my manual merge earlier, sorry Hobbsee ;) [09:32] nixternal: actually, i think i mentioned it first to him :P but yeah :P [09:33] ahhhh, i had something whitty to say right there im sure, but it just escaped me [09:33] ;) [09:33] hah [09:33] probably safer that way, i hate that pointy stick ;) [09:34] Guten Morgen! [09:34] dude, leo is cool! [09:37] hehe [09:37] but my pointy stick is fun! [09:38] nixternal: i could bludgeon you with my baseball bat, if you'd prefer :P [09:39] hmm, let me get back to you on that one ;) [09:39] haha [09:40] actually, i'm known to be kinda violent. i ended up shoving my boss into the corner of a cash register, and trying to hit him over the head yesterday. [09:40] :P [09:40] he deserved it though. [09:41] anyone can use k3b under edgy? [09:41] seems the permission need correct [09:45] Hobbsee: and you're still working for him? :) === el [n=konversa@u40-30.dsl.vianetworks.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:58] moin el :) [09:58] moin danimo [10:10] Hi el. [10:10] hi omeow [10:10] kudos on the system settings redesign. [10:10] I pointed out a flaw earlier, but riddel told me that is was already known. :) [10:11] (users having to do two searches if they want to search for something, one in general and one in advanced) [10:15] Would be quite confusing if that was left the way it was. === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.81.95] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #kubuntu-devel === insanekane [n=kane@202.83.35.163] has joined #kubuntu-devel === yannick [n=yannick@ANantes-251-1-97-184.w86-203.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === yannick_ [n=yannick@ANantes-251-1-124-224.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-131-067.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:43] abattoir: hi [12:00] Riddell: hello :) [12:01] Riddell: i read your messages... [12:01] Riddell: isnt 'self.current_page = None' called only during the 'user config' step? [12:01] abattoir: yes [12:02] which is the last page [12:02] so it means the programme exists after that page [12:03] Riddell: but, for the first page, the language and location one, the data is loaded, for the second one, the keyboard page, it isnt... doesnt that mean, the UI must be interrupted after the language step? [12:04] abattoir: keyboard doesn't get loaded on the gtk frontend for me either === Huahua [n=hua_@123.49.236.189] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:04] Riddell: oh, really? it gets loaded here... [12:06] Riddell: could it be possible that i made a mistake during packaging... which could cause that.... [12:06] ? [12:06] could be, I get the debconf error I pointed you to [12:07] Riddell: yes, i get that too... [12:07] Riddell: i thought i'd ask Kamion about it after i finish this [12:08] Riddell: shall i upload the version of oem-config contain my changes(Kamion's code only)? or would you prefer branching it and packaging it yourself? [12:09] *that doesnt contain [12:09] *my changes === kane_ [n=kane@202.83.35.163] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:12] abattoir: I think the version you've uploaded is fine [12:13] abattoir: do you know which of the d-i/source .debs and .udebs need installed? [12:15] Riddell: isnt it similar to ubiquity, where you need the backend and either or both frontends? or are you asking something else [12:16] Riddell: I have the oem-config_1.0_amd64.deb , oem-config-gtk_1.0_all.deb and oem-config-kde_1.0_all.deb installed [12:17] abattoir: what version of localechooser-data do you have? [12:17] localechooser-data_1.20ubuntu5 [12:19] Riddell: sorry, its localechooser-data_1.20ubuntu4 === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:21] morning === goldenear [n=goldenea@vol75-4-82-225-33-186.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === My8os [n=My8os@ppp138-179.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #Kubuntu-devel === fritsch [n=fritsch@vpn-cl-160-207.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:56] abattoir: my localechooser-data misses the SUPPORTED-short file [12:57] do I need oem-config-keyboard? [12:57] oem-config-keyboard? [12:58] guess not [12:58] there is a keyboard.py file in components... you mean that? [12:58] if you mean a package, no there is none that i'm aware of === haggai [n=halls@i-83-67-59-194.freedom2surf.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@dialin-145-254-252-135.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:07] abattoir: could you upload your localechooser-data .deb [01:08] Riddell: sure... one sec [01:09] Riddell: http://muse.19inch.net/~abattoir/localechooser-data_1.20ubuntu4_all.deb === el [n=konversa@u40-30.dsl.vianetworks.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:12] abattoir: could you look in /var/cache/debconf/config.dat and tell me what the owner of console-keymaps-at/keymap is [01:15] Riddell: ok, one sec [01:16] Riddell: 'console-data' [01:16] what version of console-data do you have? [01:17] abattoir: [01:17] Riddell: 20060609ubuntu2 [01:17] me too [01:17] but nothing in debconf [01:19] Riddell: you mean debconf doesnt read it or something? [01:19] well there's no entries in config.dat [01:19] for it [01:20] maybe it's one of these udebs [01:25] Riddell: so from what i read just now, udebs 'cant be installed in a normal system' ? === hungerW [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:27] console-keymaps-at_20060609ubuntu2_all.udeb looks like it === pehses [n=pehses@wep5066.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:28] Riddell: so how do you install a udeb? [01:28] dunno [01:31] abattoir: what is your setup for working with this? I'm just using a chroot [01:31] Riddell: i directly run it on my amd64 edgy install [01:31] which should be just the same === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.81.95] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:45] sorry... kwin crashed :( [01:57] abattoir: ok, I've got it running now [01:57] needed to compile the latest console-data [01:57] Riddell: the gtk one? [01:57] yes === abattoir hopes its both [01:57]