[03:42] <a1ecks> hey all
[03:46] <troy_s> hello alecks
[03:54] <Viper550> Hello everyone...
[03:55] <Viper550> Is anyone here?
[07:40] <kwwii_> moin
[08:39] <cbx33> mornin all
[10:31] <lapo> hi
[03:59] <cbx33> ping troy_s
[04:12] <msikma> Hi cbx33
[04:12] <msikma> Hey, I'm wondering
[04:13] <msikma> Have you ever owned an old Apple computer with Mac OS 9?
[04:13] <cbx33> msikma: no
[04:13] <cbx33> if I did I'd still have logic Audio :p
[04:15] <cbx33> msikma: y?
[04:16] <cbx33> right I'm off
[04:17] <cbx33> almost used up my free 500K on my phone
[04:17] <cbx33> :p
[06:07] <fschoep> troy_s: ping
[06:07] <kwwii_> howdy fschoep
[06:07] <fschoep> Hey kwwii_ how are you doing?
[06:08] <kwwii_> fschoep: pretty good...my back pain is almost gone
[06:08] <fschoep> kwwii_: that is good to hear, I hope it's completely gone tomorrow
[06:08] <kwwii_> fschoep: hehe, me too
[06:09] <fschoep> I had a question regarding Wiesbaden -
[06:09] <fschoep> do you anything about the bus in Germany?
[06:10] <cbx33> afternoon artworkians :p
[06:10] <fschoep> Hey Pete
[06:10] <cbx33> Hi
[06:10] <cbx33> how are you?
[06:10] <troy_s> fschoep,
[06:11] <troy_s> how you doing franko?
[06:11] <troy_s> cbx33, good to see you too.
[06:11] <fschoep> Well I'm all geared up for some hours of Ubuntu
[06:11] <cbx33> fschoep, nice
[06:11] <troy_s> kwwii_, greets.
[06:11] <cbx33> hi troy_s
[06:11] <kwwii_> fschoep: a bus? I am taking the train
[06:11] <cbx33> I'm hoping to get some new themes recorded tonight
[06:11] <troy_s> ok... i'll be here in a few.  family time for now.
[06:11] <kwwii_> hi troy_s
[06:11] <troy_s> see you in a few boys and girls.
[06:12] <fschoep> kwwii_: I can get to Frankfurt airport or something but I don't know where to go next
[06:12] <fschoep> troy_s: see you soon
[06:12] <fschoep> cbx33: sounds good (pun intended)
[06:12] <cbx33> fschoep, hahaha
[06:12] <cbx33> :p
[06:12] <kwwii_> fschoep: ahhh, well the bus and subway net for frankfurt and wiesbaden are together, so it is really easy
[06:12] <fschoep> cbx33: are you using a single Wiki page for your work so I can take a listen?
[06:13] <kwwii_> fschoep: you can get on a train at the station in frankfurt and go to the train station in wiesbaden
[06:13] <fschoep> kwwii_: is there a definitive guide on travelling in Germany somewhere?
[06:13] <kwwii_> and then either walk or take a bus to the hotel
[06:13] <kwwii_> fschoep: if you go to the german bahn website you can plan the trip
[06:13] <kwwii_> bahn.de
[06:13] <fschoep> kwwii_: thanks
[06:13] <fschoep> kwwii_: I think that's exactly what I needed
[06:14] <kwwii_> fschoep: no problem, if you need some more help, just let me know :-)
[06:14] <troy_s> Are you going to that dev thing fschoep?
[06:14] <fschoep> troy_s: I think so, yes.
[06:15] <cbx33> fschoep, yes
[06:15] <cbx33> just the one page
[06:15] <cbx33> I'm thinking of restructuring it too
[06:15] <cbx33> to put it into themes
[06:15] <fschoep> cbx33: OK, great - makes it easy to see the new stuff and give feedback.
[06:15] <cbx33> as several of the soudns are variations
[06:15] <cbx33> fschoep, :D
[06:16] <fschoep> kwwii_: Ich spreche kein(e?) Deutsch, but I think I'll manage. I think my German is even worse than my French.
[06:16] <kwwii_> :p
[06:17] <fschoep> Luckily, the Dutch and the Germans have a good relationship so I'm sure I'll be fine :)
[06:18] <kwwii_> hehe...just do not wear orange or talk about football :-)
[06:18] <fschoep> I'll keep that in mind, thanks.
[06:19] <kwwii_> fschoep: I am putting you as my prefered roomie on the wiki
[06:20] <fschoep> kwwii_: I'll return the favor once you're done
[06:22] <kwwii_> cool
[06:22] <fschoep> Have you added me?
[06:23] <kwwii_> fschoep: yepp, but the wiki is taking it's time
[06:23] <kwwii_> I wonder what the "confirmed" column is for?
[06:24] <fschoep> kwwii_: for confirmation I think :P
[06:24] <cbx33> wiki seems VERY slow today
[06:24] <kwwii_> well, am I supposed to confirm that the info I put there is correct, or does someone else add it?
[06:25] <fschoep> kwwii_: I think someone else will add something there to indicate your visit is confirmed.
[06:25] <kwwii_> cool, thaks
[06:25] <kwwii_> thanks
[06:25] <kwwii_> I am flying into frankfurt from chicago at 11:00 and I will come directly to the event
[06:26] <kwwii_> so if we share a room, you will be alone on Sunday
[06:26] <fschoep> kwwii_: that's no problem, or was it more of a warning?
[06:27] <kwwii_> fschoep: just to let you know, in case you did not notice it on the wiki
[06:28] <fschoep> OK, thanks
[06:28] <kwwii_> knowing is half the battle :p
[06:28] <fschoep> Is the Wiki done yet?
[06:28] <kwwii_> (that is from the old GI-Joe cartoons when I was a kid)
[06:28] <kwwii_> yepp, it is done now
[06:29] <kwwii_> btw, in case you did not see knot2: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Knot2/Kubuntu
[06:29] <fschoep> I remember GI Joe, actually I had some "action" figures, still have them somewhere I guess.
[06:30] <kwwii_> my son has mine now :-)
[06:30] <fschoep> I had (k)not seen that before, thanks for sharing.
[06:30] <kwwii_> as well as my matchbox cars
[06:30] <kwwii_> hehe
[06:30] <kwwii_> good pun
[06:30] <fschoep> Really :) ?
[06:31] <kwwii_> no, not really :P
[06:31] <kwwii_> lol
[06:31] <fschoep> kwwii_: do you have www.macrumorslive.com on a second screen?
[06:32] <kwwii_> no, but I do now..thanks for the link
[06:33] <kwwii_> it is good to know that the wlan in the macbooks will not work either :-)
[06:34] <fschoep> kwwii_: bon apetit - see my German isn't too bad
[06:34] <kwwii_> hehe, yeah well, it is "guten appetit" in german
[06:35] <kwwii_> but you can just say "ein guten"
[06:35] <fschoep> OK, "ein guten" then, as well :)
[06:35] <kwwii_> thanks :-)
[06:35] <fschoep> You're welcome
[06:35] <kwwii_> I ahve been eating pretty well lately, no wonder my back hurts
[06:35] <troy_s> ok
[06:35] <troy_s> meeting in
[06:36] <cbx33> brb
[06:36] <troy_s> fschoep.
[06:36] <fschoep> troy_s: pong
[06:48] <troy_s> cbx33 get some sounds out!
[06:55] <kwwii_> bbl
[07:03] <cbx33> troy_s, hopefully later on tonight
[07:03] <cbx33> I have just recorded a new sound to my palm top
[07:04] <cbx33> ready for production tonight
[07:05] <troy_s> awsome
[07:05] <troy_s> cbx33, remember -- quantity, not quality or tweaking.
[07:05] <troy_s> get as much as you can on the table.
[08:26] <mhb> hi everyone
[08:26] <mhb> ubuntu-a(rtwork
[08:26] <fschoep> Hello
[08:26] <mhb> in ubuntu-a(r)twork
[08:26] <mhb> sorry for the badly written joke
[08:27] <fschoep> No it was fine :)
[08:27] <mhb> any new and beautiful proposals or improvements?
[08:27] <fschoep> Not yet, we're working on it though.
[08:28] <fschoep> Kenneth posted a screenshot series earlier, of the Kubuntu Knot 2 CD, have you seen that?
[08:28] <mhb> fschoep: I'm kind of busy this week, so I don't have much time to check the ML in detail
[08:28] <mhb> fschoep: nope, but I'd LOVE to see that!
[08:28] <fschoep> mhb: hold on ...
[08:28] <fschoep> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Knot2/Kubuntu
[08:30] <mhb> fschoep: I'm using his colour scheme the moment it came out, and I like it a lot
[08:31] <fschoep> That's good to hear, I haven't tried it myself yet.
[08:31] <mhb> fschoep: I hope we'll (I mean he'll, of course) remake the Kubuntu buttons soon...
[08:31] <mhb> fschoep: windeco buttons
[08:32] <fschoep> Have you talked to Kenneth about them so he knows what you'd like to change?
[08:32] <mhb> fschoep: sure
[08:32] <mhb> fschoep: he actually wants to do that, too
[08:33] <fschoep> mhb: I can imagine, they're kind of hard to see and interpret right now I guess.
[08:50] <msikma> Sup guys
[08:51] <msikma> Those are nice Kubuntu screenshots
[08:51] <msikma> I don't like the buttons at the top right though
[08:51] <msikma> Not enough contrast
[08:51] <msikma> Man I wish we could have anti-aliased corners of the window borders (and shadows)
[08:54] <mhb> msikma: as I said few lines before, they're going to be replaced
[08:54] <msikma> hahaha, cool
[08:55] <mhb> msikma: if you have some proposals, post them on the ML or better on the wiki
[09:02] <msikma> Maybe, I don't really know much about Kubuntu or KDE in general
[09:22] <msikma> I love how at Apple's keynote, they first complain how Microsoft stole all of their features, and then go on to claim that they invented virtual desktops.
[09:23] <msikma> Man. What to do with the scroll bar.
[09:28] <msikma> http://www.gamingw.net/pubaccess/28695/metacity3_3.png <-- I can't quite figure out what to do with them.
[09:28] <fschoep> Those rounded window border looks awesome, can you have them working tomorrow :) ?
[09:33] <msikma> I wish
[09:34] <msikma> Still all just a design mock-up
[09:34] <msikma> Maybe there's a dev somewhere who's hardcore enough to help me out
[09:34] <fschoep> I'm not sure if alpha blended borders are entirely possible without composite support.
[09:34] <msikma> I e-mailed a friend of mine about those scroll bars. Maybe he has a grand idea. He's a professional UI designer at Scaleform, they mainly do games.
[09:34] <msikma> Yeah, I guess they aren't.
[09:34] <msikma> Maybe with 32-bit PNGs, or something?
[09:35] <fschoep> I was thinking of that, but at the same time: why wouldn't anyone else thought of that before?
[09:35] <msikma> Bah, I hate that all PNGs I save end up looking brighter than in my workspace
[09:36] <fschoep> Don't worry about it too much, on my screen the difference is negligible.
[09:36] <fschoep> And it's still in exploration phase, so it doesn't matter a whole lot, or am I wrong?
[09:36] <msikma> Does the shadow underneath "Theme Preferences" actually look dark grey?
[09:37] <msikma> Well, yeah, you're right. But it's just that color spaces are such a hell! They never do what I want them to do. :P
[09:37] <fschoep> It looks like dark brown yes, a bit like the "Environmental Shadow" from the official Human palette.
[09:38] <msikma> Ah, yeah. I haven't taken the Human palette into account yet. Thanks for reminding me.
[09:39] <msikma> Let's see if there are any developers willing to volunteer for UI building
[09:42] <fschoep> I'm logging out, see you again tomorrow.
[09:42] <msikma> Later!
[09:43] <fschoep> c u :)
[10:25] <lapo> hi
[11:56] <mhz> considering art.ubuntu.com is not accepting submissions
[11:56] <mhz> where should I place wallpaper and theme?