[12:15] <nixternal> hey Fujitsu, btw have you check out http://chi.ubuntu-us.org ?  that was done thanks to you and the theme btw!  i appreciate that big time
[12:16] <Fujitsu> No problem!
[12:16] <Fujitsu> Wow, it looks nice.
[12:17] <nixternal> thanks..i went through and hacked in some stuff similar to what is on the ubuntu.com front page
[12:17] <Fujitsu> Yeah.
[12:17] <nixternal> more drupal hacking to be done when i get a chance to do so
[12:18] <nixternal> i want to remove the "post to front page" feature as well
[12:18] <nixternal> my guys post to their blog and keep posting it on the front page
[12:18] <Fujitsu> Aha... I think you can remove that privilege, but I'm not sure.
[12:19] <nixternal> ya, somewhere im sure..oh well..back to Release notes
[12:19] <Fujitsu> Yep :P
[12:19] <nixternal> Burgundavia: i am hitting up https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Kubuntu/Edgy/Knot2 right now
[12:20] <nixternal> fixing snapshots now and getting ready to get that completed and ready for a proofing
[12:31] <Burgundavia> nixternal: I saw that. I will steal as needed
[12:31] <Burgundavia> nixternal: lets regularize the urls of the ubuntu/kubuntu knot pages
[12:33] <nixternal> most definitely..i went along with the /Testing/Kubuntu/Edgy way from mgalvin i believe
[12:33] <nixternal> what would you like them to be?
[12:33] <nixternal> i will move and redirect as needed right now
[12:34] <Burgundavia> my internet is giving me issues today, give me a sec
[12:34] <nixternal> no prob
[12:36] <nixternal> right now you have EdgyKnot2 for yours
[12:36] <nixternal> how about...
[12:36] <nixternal> hmmm
[12:36] <nixternal>  /Edgy/Knot2/Kubuntu  for my release
[12:37] <nixternal> or, I just get rid of the Testing on my current release and do /Kubuntu/Edgy/Knot2
[12:37] <Burgundavia> what about EdgyEft/Knot2/Kubuntu
[12:37] <nixternal> cool
[12:37] <Burgundavia> that puts it as a clear subpage of EdgyEft
[12:37] <Fujitsu> That's a good idea.
[12:39] <Burgundavia> nixternal: feel free to move my page to EdgyEft/Knot2
[12:39] <nixternal> will do
[12:39] <nixternal> yours is /EdgyEft/Knot2/Ubuntu correct
[12:39] <Burgundavia> nixternal: just remember to leave redirects behind. My internet is too unreliable today to deal with anything like moving wiki pages
[12:39] <nixternal> no problem
[12:39] <Burgundavia> I would just leave it at /Knot2
[12:39] <nixternal> ok
[12:40] <Fujitsu> What package should bugs in the documentation be filed in?
[12:41] <Burgundavia> ubuntu-doc
[12:41] <Fujitsu> I thought so. Thanks.
[12:55] <nixternal> i love how fast the wiki is
[01:04] <Burgundavia> Kamping_Kaiser: please do your documentation development on the help wiki, not the ubuntu one
[02:00] <nixternal> Burgundavia: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Knot2  <- that is all you   and of course for Kubuntu -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Knot2
[02:04] <Burgundavia> nixternal: yep, but kill the knot1 stuff
[02:04] <nixternal> knot1
[02:05] <Burgundavia> knot1 has passed, no need to create anything for it
[02:05] <nixternal> i did knot1 b4 the knot1 release
[02:05] <nixternal> i just moved it to stay the same...
[02:05] <Burgundavia> ah, ok
[02:06] <Burgundavia> nixternal: you also need to arrange the moving of the page to kubuntu.org
[02:07] <Burgundavia> it cannot stay on the wiki
[02:07] <nixternal> hmmm
[02:07] <nixternal> i will get with imbrandon later on tonight about that i guess
[02:07] <Burgundavia> ok, we don't have to worry about it until nearer to knot2
[02:08] <nixternal> roger that
[02:41] <nixternal> hiya jsgotangco!
[02:42] <LaserJock> hi nixternal
[02:42] <nixternal> hiya LaserJock
[02:42] <jsgotangco> nixternal: hey dude ho's it going how's the vacation
[02:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> Burgundavia, sorry, i didnt want to clutter the wiki with half finished pages
[02:42] <nixternal> hmmm...was hoping Madpilot would be around to do a XChat run over for the Classroom tonight
[02:42] <jsgotangco> classroom?
[02:43] <nixternal> jsgotangco: vacation is over ;( it was good though, had a blast with my daughter...now im back to work with docs, release notes, and your stuff ;)
[02:43] <nixternal> #ubuntu-classroom
[02:43] <nixternal> New User Network
[02:43] <jsgotangco> wow there is such a thing
[02:43] <nixternal> we are doing an Introduction to IRC tonight, for the 2nd night actually
[02:43] <jsgotangco> i guess i can't ask there about kernel dumps?
[02:43] <nixternal> yesterday we had up to 90 people in the class
[02:43] <nixternal> haha not yet..these are for the new guys ;)
[02:44] <jsgotangco> that's cool though
[02:44] <nixternal> im doing Konversation again..i did a 1 hour lecture on the basics yesterday
[02:44] <nixternal> im shooting for 30 minutes tonight
[02:44] <jsgotangco> it seems the new kernel update for dapper borked my setup
[02:44] <Burgundavia> Kamping_Kaiser: no worries, better to have a half finished page on the help wiki than not at all
[02:44] <jsgotangco> i havent really looked into it is probably the restricted modules
[02:45] <nixternal> same here jsgotangco
[02:45] <nixternal> i had major issues last night
[02:45] <crimsun> what happened?
[02:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> Burgundavia, ok, i'll move them over when i get home tonight
[02:45] <nixternal> or 2 nights ago
[02:45] <jsgotangco> are you using nvidia-glx?
[02:45] <LaserJock> nixternal: it really takes that long to go over konversation?
[02:45] <nixternal> but i think it borked up hardware stuff, as just by moving my memory sticks around, i got it to work fine
[02:45] <Burgundavia> Kamping_Kaiser: while you are doing it, could you move anything else that should be moved?
[02:45] <nixternal> it did last night LaserJock, i went into everything with it
[02:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> Burgundavia, sure. (when i get home is in 12 hours though)
[02:45] <jsgotangco> crimsun: in mine, gdm loads, but after logging it just hangs
[02:46] <jsgotangco> ill probably take a look again later
[02:46] <Burgundavia> Kamping_Kaiser: no worries on the timing
[02:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok
[02:48] <jsgotangco> nixternal: where do slackers sit? wth is the channel moderated
[02:48] <jsgotangco> ehe
[02:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> bye all, off to tafe :0, back in 12 hours, ish
[02:49] <nixternal> ya
[02:49] <nixternal> hahahaha
[02:49] <nixternal> it is moderated, then people are voiced for questions during the thing
[02:50] <jsgotangco> nixternal: boooo
[02:51] <LaserJock> s/wade/wad/
[02:51] <LaserJock> ?
[02:52] <jsgotangco> LaserJock: nixternal is holding a class heh
[02:52] <nixternal> haha
[02:52] <nixternal> i need a soda b4 this all starts
[02:52] <LaserJock> nixternal: is UWN #8 out the door
[02:52] <nixternal> yes
[02:52] <nixternal> thanks to Riddell and Burgundavia!!!
[02:53] <jsgotangco> yay
[02:53] <nixternal> and of course crimsun for his mad professor skills and proofing
[02:53] <jsgotangco> so you had it out nice
[02:54] <nixternal> argh
[02:54] <nixternal> ummm... jsgotangco, what about that email?  will you still be open for me sending you emails and what not concerning it?
[02:55] <jsgotangco> sure
[02:55] <nixternal> cool
[02:55] <nixternal> soda time, then i get to teach ;)
[02:55] <jsgotangco> i just wont be online often, folks are coming over for a 2 week vacation
[02:55] <nixternal> anyone interested in doing a X-Chat Lecture?
[02:55] <nixternal> ahh, i should have hopped on the plane with them
[02:55] <nixternal> i just got into o'hare on friday
[03:12] <LaserJock> anybody know if there is a place that would have an Ubuntu Impress template?
[03:12] <jsgotangco> i just grab old ones from mako before
[03:13] <LaserJock> I'd like one that has Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and Edubuntu 
[03:13] <LaserJock> I had something in mind, maybe I'll just make it myself and see if it doesn't turn out like crap
[03:14] <jsgotangco> i made a simple one for edubunt that looks like the website
[03:14] <LaserJock> mmy artistic skills are pretty bad
[03:14] <jsgotangco> fortunately, OOo has the Ubuntu colors
[03:14] <LaserJock> ohhh, cool
[03:14] <jsgotangco> yep
[03:14] <jsgotangco> i was pleased to see it explicity indicated
[03:16] <bimberi> LaserJock: /usr/share/example-content has a couple of odp files
[03:16] <LaserJock> yeah, i see those
[03:17] <LaserJock> I'd like to make something that has all of *buntu
[03:20] <jsgotangco> maka a frankenstein out of all the logos, then have the mouse in the middle
[03:20] <jsgotangco> heh
[03:24] <mpt__> One Buntubuntu to rule them all
[03:25] <Fujitsu> One buntubuntu to find them. One buntubuntu to rule them all, and in the darkness bind them. Yes, we get it.
[03:25] <Fujitsu> *bring them all
[03:27] <mpt__> Who were you saying "Yes we get it" at, yourself? :-)
[03:27] <Fujitsu> Yep :P
[03:30] <bimberi> Fujitsu: a CC meeting is overdue, but is one iminent?
[03:30] <Fujitsu> bimberi, they're meant to be every two weeks, on a Tuesday.
[03:31] <Fujitsu> And they seem to only announce times just hours before.
[03:31] <bimberi> hmm
[03:31] <Fujitsu> And there hasn't been a meeting in 4 weeks.
[03:35] <bimberi> Fujitsu: are they announced anywhere other than the CC Agenda WikiPage?
[03:35] <Fujitsu> bimberi, not generally.
[03:35] <bimberi> Fujitsu: kk, thanks, wasn't sure if i was missing something :)
[03:36] <LaserJock> they should be on the fridge
[03:37] <jsgotangco> things have been pretty busy because of the point release
[03:40] <bimberi> hmm
[03:41] <crimsun> who's the CM? :-)
[03:41] <LaserJock> is that position filled?
[03:41] <bimberi> idk, the position is no longer on the employment page though
[03:41] <crimsun> I know a couple people who applied for it, but that's all I know.
[03:43] <LaserJock> jsgotangco: something sorta like this: http://chem.unr.edu/~mantha/ubuntu/impress.png
[03:46] <LaserJock> crimsun: outside people?
[03:47] <crimsun> LaserJock: yes
[03:47] <jsgotangco> horay for LaserJock artwork
[03:47] <bimberi> hehe
[03:50] <LaserJock> crimsun: cool
[03:50] <LaserJock> jsgotangco: well, it's not much :/
[03:50] <jsgotangco> i was kidding
[03:56] <bimberi> LaserJock: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Presentations
[03:57] <LaserJock> bimberi: ah cool, I didn't think of the right search phrase ;-)
[04:06] <nixternal> thank god that is over with
[04:06] <nixternal> [20:20]  <jsgotangco> maka a frankenstein out of all the logos, then have the mouse in the middle
[04:06] <nixternal> hahahha
[04:06] <nixternal> i thought setting the logos up like the olympic rings with the world in the middle would be cool
[04:07] <nixternal> don't know how the IOC would take that though
[04:43] <jsgotangco> they are very feisty with their trademarks
[06:40] <nixternal> crimsun: you are my hero!
[06:40] <LaserJock> nixternal: he's many people's hero :-)
[06:41] <nixternal> heh, i just read over logs of his patience in #kubuntu earlier today with the rr guy that is annoying me in #ubuntu-chicago ;)
[06:41] <nixternal> he is from Chicago, but recently has been bringing bad karma around
[06:47] <jsgotangco> start the purge!
[06:51] <nixternal> hehe
[08:54] <Burgundavia> jsgotangco: I would be careful with mangling our logos like that
[08:54] <Burgundavia> regardless of the trademark policy, it is bad marketing
[08:54] <mdke> mpt_: will try and look today
[08:55] <Burgundavia> hey mdke
[08:55] <jsgotangco> sure its just for fun though
[08:55] <Burgundavia> jsgotangco: but start bandying around stuff like that it starts becoming used really fast
[08:55] <Fujitsu> Very very fast.
[08:55] <jsgotangco> yeah
[08:55] <mdke> hi Burgundavia 
[08:57] <nixternal> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Knot2/Kubuntu   <= that is where it is at now Burgundavia ;)
[08:58] <Burgundavia> nixternal: sounds good
[08:58] <nixternal> it is pretty much complete..there are just a few finishing touches....and then we will be putting it up on k.o im assuming
[08:58] <Laser_away> Burgundavia: are you going to give a talk at Ubucon?
[08:59] <Burgundavia> Laser_away: likely I will dragooned into one
[09:00] <jsgotangco> Ubucon sounds very exciting!
[09:01] <Laser_away> I'm up for "contributing to Ubuntu" and possibly "Intro to Launchpad, et al." (Yikes)
[09:01] <Burgundavia> I will give "Back in the bad old days"
[09:01] <Laser_away> hehe
[09:02] <crimsun> loading that wiki page is slow death on this 33.6
[09:02] <Burgundavia> "Sodomy, chocolate sprinkles, and Launchpad in Mataro"
[09:02] <Fujitsu> ...
[09:06] <jsgotangco> dont forget to mention the gastro sprint of death
[09:06] <nixternal> [02:02]  <crimsun> loading that wiki page is slow death on this 33.6
[09:06] <nixternal> i hope that was a joke ;)
[09:07] <crimsun> no, it really wasn't.
[09:07] <johnlittle> Yeah, he's not talking about sprinkles
[09:07] <nixternal> heh, i will put a "Not for anything slower then 768k" warning on the top of the page ;)
[09:09] <jsgotangco> hmm
[09:09] <jsgotangco> why is kubuntu in lavander?
[09:23] <nixternal> that is the "New" look jsgotangco
[09:23] <jsgotangco> it reminds me of downy
[09:24] <jsgotangco> :D
[09:26] <nixternal> lol
[09:47] <Madpilot> Burgundavia, you want to politely reject the latest WikiTeam hopeful, or should I do it tomorrow?
[09:47] <Burgundavia> I will let you do it
[09:47] <Burgundavia> I need to clear up my email backlog (currently at 600ish)
[09:47] <Madpilot> thanks - I think... 
[09:53] <nixternal> haha
[09:55] <Madpilot> I need to review the WikiTeam page - I don't think it's clear that we expect people to *first* do some good basic editing, *then* apply for the (theoretically) expanded privs that WikiTeam membership brings
[09:55] <nixternal> that could help i guess
[09:57] <Burgundavia> yep, sounds good
[10:07] <mdke> Madpilot: I think he is interested in the new forumwiki team
[10:07] <Madpilot> ah
[10:07] <mdke> and has applied to that, the wiki team and the docteam all together
[10:07] <Madpilot> we're going to have a bit of confusing between the two, aren't we?
[10:07] <mdke> well, I don't know
[10:07] <Burgundavia> forumwiki team?
[10:07] <Madpilot> the WikiTeam applicant in question is 'panickedthumb'
[10:08] <Burgundavia> he is a long term forum user
[10:08] <mdke> yes, he applied to all 3
[10:08] <mdke> I'll deal with it if you like
[10:08] <Burgundavia> right, anyway, I need to sleep
[11:07] <mdke> mpt: around? just looking at your patch
[11:15] <mdke> mpt: ok, replied on list. Thanks
[12:58] <lloydinho_> sorry, did somebody ask for me?
[12:59] <mdke> lloydinho: didn't see anything
[12:59] <mdke> whoops
[12:59] <lloydinho> ?
[01:00] <mdke> whoops: I was worried I might have crashed your irc client by highlighting you, remembering the other day
[01:00] <lloydinho> no, my computer starts up x-chat-gnome automatically, but this ordinary x-chat which doesn't have that problem..
[01:01] <lloydinho> .. which is odd, I guess.
[01:02] <mdke> yeah
[03:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MovingWikiPages doesnt explain how to move from wiki.u.c to help.u.c
[03:20] <mdke> Kamping_Kaiser: there is no magic in it. Just copy the contents into the place you want the page to be. 
[03:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> so edit -> copy -> paste? i can do that :)
[03:21] <mdke> nope
[03:21] <mdke> well, you can copy the folder across if you have access to the server, I suppose
[03:21] <mdke> but you don't :)
[03:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> fraid not :)
[03:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok, moved my 5 docs out of my wiki home into help.u.c, hopefully properly
[03:39] <mdke> not bad
[03:40] <mdke> Kamping_Kaiser: however you haven't followed the number one rule of AvoidingASlapByMdke
[03:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> used howto in titles?
[03:40] <mdke> correct!
[03:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> :S
[03:40] <mdke> see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WikiGuide/PageCreation
[03:41] <mdke> nice work on those tho
[03:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> thanks. suppose i should move them again now :)
[03:42] <mdke> I'll rename em
[03:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> thanks
[03:42] <mdke> was there nothing on debmirror already?
[03:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> mdke, not at the time i made it
[03:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> (back before the help was moved to the new site even)
[03:45] <mdke> ok, maybe have a quick check that there is nothing to integrate.
[03:45] <mdke> Kamping_Kaiser: quick feedback on those pages, they would benefit a lot with an introduction stating what the application does and why someone might want to use it
[03:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> mdke, oh, i didnt think of that. I'll try and remember to fix tehm tomorrow/soon. i write them somehow asuming someones found the tools, knows what to use them for, but doesnt know how to use them.
[03:54] <mdke> Kamping_Kaiser: yeah I know what you mean, but I think it would add to them. 
[03:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> of course. i just didnt think. i'll add them when i have time
[03:59] <mdke> Kamping_Kaiser: awesome, nice job
[03:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> np.
[06:02] <nixternal> talk about a busy morning ;)
[06:02] <jsgotangco> heh
[06:02] <jsgotangco> good thing im about to sleep
[06:02] <jjesse> morning nixternal
[06:02] <nixternal> ya, i just woke up from that ;)
[06:02] <nixternal> mornin' jjesse
[06:03] <nixternal> or afternoon to you now, since it is 12pm in the rapids
[06:03] <jjesse> yeah just turned :)
[06:07] <jjesse> nixternal: in the weekly newsletter there needs to be a carriage return or something to seperate Willow-ng from Migration Assistant
[06:07] <jjesse> otherwise it looks like only one SoC project is listed
[06:08] <nixternal> I noticed in the KDE Help Center, the "Contact Information" is all about KDE, and there are no links to Kubuntu or Ubuntu contacts, for instance the various mailing lists like they have done with the KDE stuff, any reason?  should this be created maybe for Edgy?
[06:08] <nixternal> ok jjesse, i can fix that quickly i guess ;)
[06:10] <nixternal> fixed...it is weird that the wiki has not been recognizing carriage returns...now there is a double space, which works
[06:11] <jsgotangco> nixternal: can an ipod video be flashable to linux?
[06:11] <nixternal> what do you mean by flashable?
[06:12] <nixternal> turned into flash? that i hope not ;)
[06:12] <nixternal> copied over to linux and played?
[06:13] <jsgotangco> change the firmware
[06:13] <nixternal> oh..hehe not that i am aware of
[06:13] <nixternal> it has to be done in windows, unless you are using 3rd party os for it
[06:13] <nixternal> which rockbox doesn't do video
[06:14] <jsgotangco> my wife will kill me if i attempt to mess at her ipod
[06:14] <nixternal> and the ipod linux isn't up to par as of yet either
[06:14] <jsgotangco> i should probably just get an old one
[06:14] <nixternal> maybe you could flash it via wine?
[06:14] <jsgotangco> i have a ton of ogg files here
[06:14] <nixternal> oh, jsgotangco, actually yes you can "flash" it
[06:14] <nixternal> but what you do, is back it up, it is a lot of work
[06:15] <nixternal> i believe the rockbox website actually shows you how to do it
[06:15] <jsgotangco> or maybe i'll just look for an i-river with ogg support
[06:15] <nixternal> well, with i-river i would recommend the rockbox os for it
[06:15] <nixternal> it can play anything
[06:16] <jsgotangco> whats the url of that rockbox thing?
[06:16] <jsgotangco> wait found it
[06:16] <nixternal> hehe
[06:16] <nixternal> google
[06:17] <jsgotangco> mdke: you're no fun all the time
[06:18] <mdke> jsgotangco: yeah, I know, I'm grumpy
[06:18] <mdke> but it's only because reading the channel logs looking to see what I have missed makes me grumpy
[06:18] <mdke> :)
[06:19] <jsgotangco> nixternal: this looks really painful
[06:19] <nixternal> hehe, it is and it isn't
[06:23] <nixternal> jjesse: with the Kubuntu Dapper release notes, I am fixing a couple of things in it, and there is a part for "Zeroconf". isn't that kind of false to have that. I mean it is in Kubuntu, it just doesn't work the way it was meant to be in Dapper i thought
[06:38] <nixternal> jjesse: are you currently working on Kubuntu release notes for Edgy?  and if so, feel free to give me a page or 2 to work on to lend you a hand
[06:38] <nixternal> i have been doing the current release pages for k.o so i kinda have an idea of what is in it and what isn't
[08:33] <jjesse> nixternal: ping
[08:33] <nixternal> hellooooo
[08:33] <nixternal> i have way to many winders open right now
[08:34] <jjesse> grin :)
[08:34] <nixternal> i have stuff flashin' and beepin' at me
[08:34] <nixternal> got lost there
[08:34] <jjesse> umm i haven't really started an upload for edgy release notes
[08:34] <nixternal> ok
[08:34] <jjesse> but was planning on copying what you have in testing/Knot1 or whatever
[08:34] <nixternal> you are going to follow the previous i am sure..just update it with Edgy notes
[08:34] <nixternal> well that has all changed
[08:35] <nixternal> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Knot1/Kubuntu    and     https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Knot1/Kubuntu
[08:35] <nixternal> those will eventually make it to the kubuntu.org site..im working with imbrandon on that right now
[08:36] <jjesse> ok thats fine, just make sure they get uploaded to docbook as well :)
[08:37] <nixternal> you want each release docbook?
[08:37] <nixternal> knot 1, knot 2, and so on?
[08:37] <jjesse> no just final :)
[08:37] <nixternal> oh...no problem
[08:37] <jjesse> umm check w/ Riddell to see if they are uploading kubuntu-docs into edgy yet?
[08:37] <nixternal> however, we don't need the images for the release notes that go into the KDE Help Center correct?
[08:38] <jjesse> correct
[08:38] <nixternal> i know they are either getting ready to, or have done it...i have seen doc commits to edgy, just can't remember if they were DE specific
[08:38] <nixternal> Riddell: pingerz?
[08:38] <jjesse> well i don't know if they built any packages
[08:38] <nixternal> i don't know why i just did that, because i am sure he will see your highlight ;)
[08:40] <jjesse> i don't think anyone's built a kubuntu-docs package yet, i think that happens at the end of things?
[08:40] <nixternal> ya im sure it does..since there are a lot of changes ahead
[08:41] <LaserJock> I thought there was 1 upload for Edgy already
[08:41] <jjesse> there may have been, which is why i would like to have some release notes uploaded into docbook :)
[08:42] <nixternal> there was LaserJock, but i think it was pretty much Ubuntu specific and generic maybe...ok, im going to read commits b4 i go retarded here
[08:43] <LaserJock> no
[08:43] <nixternal> Accepted:
[08:43] <nixternal> OK: ubuntu-docs_6.08.1.dsc
[08:43] <nixternal>   -> Component: main Section: text
[08:43] <nixternal> OK: ubuntu-docs_6.08.1.tar.gz
[08:43] <LaserJock> there was an ubuntu-docs
[08:43] <LaserJock> but I thought also a kubuntu-docs
[08:44] <nixternal> im lookin' now
[08:44] <LaserJock> I thought it was earlier than the ubuntu-docs but I could be wrong
[08:44] <nixternal> nope, no kubuntu docs
[08:44] <LaserJock> you can always check LP
[08:45] <nixternal> i have a nice breakdown of commits in kmail ;)
[08:45] <LaserJock> looks like it's just dapper's
[08:49] <nixternal> yup
[08:49] <nixternal> no edgy ones yet
[08:50] <LaserJock> maybe it was just -updates that I saw
[08:50] <nixternal> i did see recent update commits on the doc-commit list
[08:50] <nixternal> jjesse: i submitted a patch for kubuntu release notes on the ML a little while ago
[08:50] <nixternal> it is pretty legit, as it fixes a couple minor spelling issues
[08:51] <nixternal> don't know if there is a .1 freeze yet
[08:51] <jjesse> yeah i still don't have my key figured out due to computer issues
[08:51] <nixternal> ahhh
[08:51] <jjesse> i don't think there is, but let Riddell know so he can recreate the package
[08:53] <nixternal> ya, plus i want to ask if he is interested in a "Contact Information" page for Kubuntu, like KDE has done and listed in the Help Center
[08:53] <jjesse> that sounds cool
[08:53] <nixternal> i could whip something up quick and show it to him to see what he thinks
[08:53] <jjesse> is there an "edgy" version of debian?
[08:54] <LaserJock> a what?
[08:54] <jjesse> what is the cutting edge/unstable verrsion of debian called?
[08:54] <nixternal> hehe
[08:54] <nixternal> sid
[08:54] <jjesse> just unstable?
[08:55] <LaserJock> unstable or sid
[08:55] <nixternal> i almost said edgy eft ;)
[08:55] <nixternal> heh, or Dapper in some cases ;)
[09:36] <trappist> well there's unstable, but then there's testing.  and then there's experimental.
[09:36] <jjesse> does anyone remember if I changed all references to amaroK and made them Amarok in kubuntu gnotes?
[09:36] <jjesse> notes
[09:56] <jjesse> nixternal: were you ever officially approved by mako ?
[10:07] <mdke> gooood evening
[10:10] <mdke> so what do people think about getting rid of the licences for those individual docs that still have them?
[10:11] <jjesse> the dual license?  sorry haven't been following the discussion much on the list
[10:11] <jjesse> so i don't have much of an opinion
[10:11] <mdke> not that
[10:11] <jjesse> oh did i miss another email?
[10:11] <mdke> I was thinking that having the whole licenses in an appendix to each doc is pretty cumbersome and ugly
[10:11] <jjesse> yeah it is
[10:11] <mdke> maybe we could just link to them in the articleinfo/bookinfo
[10:12] <mdke> we already do that for some of the articles, but the books have them in their entirety, the reader doesn't really care, let's be honest ;)
[10:12] <jjesse> i bet the reader doesn't even open them :)
[10:12] <mdke> right, they get in the way
[10:13] <jjesse> next week i'm traveling, so when i'm in the hotel and bored at night i'l l be able to really work on documents :)
[10:13] <mdke> cool
[10:18] <mdke> I've added those two licenses questions to the agenda for the next meeting, whenever it is. The more comments on the mailing list the better
[10:47] <LaserJock> mdke: can GFDL be done that way?
[10:48] <LaserJock> doh, I'm a little late
[10:52] <nixternal> heh, jjesse disappears right b4 i can give him an answer
[11:53] <mdke> LaserJock: I'm undecided, see what you think and mail the list?
[11:54] <mdke> it's done like that for About Ubuntu, About Kubuntu and so on tho, whether it is possible or not ;)
[12:06] <nixternal> hiya Madpilot
[12:07] <Madpilot> hi
[12:11] <LaserJock> are  either of you guys ops in #ubuntu?
[12:11] <Madpilot> I am, yeah
[12:11] <Madpilot> problems?