| railz2 | when I put in the cd it asked to upgrade or start package manager, i choose package manager and it added the cd as a source | 12:07 |
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| railz2 | but next to no packages are being listed, i see the dapper kernel and a couple of things but thats about it | 12:08 |
| railz2 | for ex, no upgrades are shown for firefox, gnome, xchat and pretty much everything else | 12:08 |
| railz2 | i made sure all other sources are removed so it's only the cd | 12:08 |
| Mez | railz2 - have a look at your /etc/apt/sources.list | 12:08 |
| railz2 | this is the only line uncommented | 12:08 |
| Mez | you need to change everything from "hoary" to "dapper" | 12:08 |
| railz2 | deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 6.06 _Dapper Drake_ - Release i386 (20060531)] / dapper main restricted | 12:08 |
| Mez | railz2... then do a | 12:09 |
| Mez | sudo apt-get update | 12:09 |
| railz2 | already did | 12:09 |
| Mez | sudo apt-get upgrade | 12:09 |
| Mez | sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade | 12:09 |
| railz2 | when i do update or reload in synaptic it's showing only about 8 packages in total that can be upgraded | 12:09 |
| railz2 | i've never done dselect-upgrade whats that? | 12:10 |
| Mez | same as dist-0upgrade but will remove packages you dont need | 12:10 |
| railz2 | i just wanted to see all the packages available in synaptic first then i was going to kill X and do apt-get dist-upgrade | 12:10 |
| Mez | railz2 - this isnt the place - try #ubuntu or the mailing lists | 12:11 |
| railz2 | i realize this isn't the place, but no one knows in #ubuntu and the forums are failing me | 12:11 |
| railz2 | this should be relatively easy but can't find the solution | 12:11 |
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| railz2 | but i'll try elsewhere | 12:11 |
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| ajmitch | bmonty: pong | 12:44 |
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| ajmitch | railz2: sorry, you can't use the live/desktop cd to do upgrades - it's the one failing of it not having the packages on the cd as packages | 12:46 |
| Lathiat | i always thought the 'alternate' cd should be called the upgrade cd or something | 12:53 |
| ajmitch | except that it's not primarily used for that | 12:56 |
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| bmonty | ajmitch: any updates on your SoC project? | 01:12 |
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| hub | are we in UVF for Universe? | 01:22 |
| tseng | no. | 01:23 |
| bmonty | hub: are you looking at the email about sympa on ubuntu-motu? | 01:23 |
| hub | yeah | 01:23 |
| bmonty | it looks like that package is just a sync | 01:24 |
| hub | bmonty: I just wanted to make sure I didn't miss something | 01:24 |
| Fujitsu | Note that there doesn't seem to be a newer sympa in Sid. | 01:28 |
| Toadstool | bmonty, hub: edgy has the exact same version as sid, looks like the package is not well maintained in Debian | 01:28 |
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| Fujitsu | There should be a CC meeting tomorrow, shouldn't there? | 01:40 |
| zul_ | i thought it takes place on tuesday | 01:57 |
| Fujitsu | zul_, it is Tuesday tomorrow here :P | 02:02 |
| Fujitsu | But I note that there was no meeting on the 25th, when there should have been. | 02:03 |
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| LaserJock | grr, my laptop just doesn't like mouse buttons after coming out of hibernation | 03:05 |
| zul_ | macbook? | 03:05 |
| LaserJock | no | 03:05 |
| LaserJock | toshiba | 03:05 |
| zul_ | ah that explains it :) | 03:05 |
| LaserJock | it's kinda crappy | 03:05 |
| LaserJock | wrt hibernation | 03:05 |
| zul_ | i heard nothing but bad things about toshibas | 03:06 |
| LaserJock | sound doesn't work | 03:06 |
| LaserJock | and now the mouse buttons don't work | 03:06 |
| LaserJock | I just have to Ctrl-Alt-Backspace | 03:06 |
| jsgotangco | really | 03:07 |
| jsgotangco | satellites are a pain based on my experience | 03:07 |
| jsgotangco | not so much on the Tecras | 03:07 |
| LaserJock | it has been a pretty nice machine for me | 03:07 |
| LaserJock | not *too* many complaints considering how much I paid for it at the time | 03:08 |
| LaserJock | but hibernation is weird to start with I guess | 03:08 |
| LaserJock | it goes through the BIOS stuff, etc. | 03:08 |
| LaserJock | that isn't normal is it? | 03:09 |
| LaserJock | I don't have any other hibernation experience so I'm not sure what other laptops do | 03:09 |
| jsgotangco | hibernate saves the session in your disk and powers down | 03:09 |
| LaserJock | right | 03:10 |
| LaserJock | but what is it supposed to do when you come out? | 03:10 |
| jsgotangco | so when you boot up, you'll still get your bios stuff | 03:10 |
| jsgotangco | i think what you're expecting is when you suspend to ram | 03:10 |
| LaserJock | ah, could be | 03:10 |
| jsgotangco | dont even try it on a binary video driver its more likely to fail than succeed | 03:11 |
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| caravena | Hello, I'm finding in http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnome-system-tools/ the glade.in of gnome-system-log. I do not find it. Somebody knows as it is the file? | 03:48 |
| welshbyte | i think gnome-system-log is part of gnome-utils | 03:57 |
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| caravena | welshbyte: "logview" == "gnome-system-tool"? | 04:01 |
| caravena | welshbyte: "logview" == "gnome-system-log"? (Sorry) | 04:02 |
| crimsun | geez. | 04:03 |
| crimsun | so in an attempt to not drag in xulrunner's libs, I have to build-depend on firefox-dev and add firefox as an explicit dependency. | 04:03 |
| crimsun | I don't know which hurts more. | 04:04 |
| Fujitsu | Ouch. | 04:04 |
| crimsun | on top of that, I seem to be triggering a strange feature in GTK+ 2.10.1 in which a dbox doesn't respond to a delete-event. | 04:05 |
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| welshbyte | caravena: yes, it looks like it | 04:06 |
| welshbyte | is | 04:07 |
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| Munchkinguy | I would like to reccomend for inclusion in the universe: Sakreble, a scrabble-type word game | 04:34 |
| Munchkinguy | The source can be found at | 04:34 |
| Munchkinguy | http://sakreble.sourceforge.net/ | 04:34 |
| imbrandon | |||||||||||||||||||||\ | 04:35 |
| zul_ | hey imbrandon | 04:36 |
| Munchkinguy | ...because it's the free only gui-based scrabble c | 04:45 |
| Munchkinguy | lone out there | 04:45 |
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| Hobbsee | hi all | 05:08 |
| zul | hey Hobbsee | 05:14 |
| Hobbsee | hi zul :) | 05:15 |
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| zul | right im going to bed....night night | 05:28 |
| Hobbsee | night zul | 05:28 |
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| Fujitsu | Anybody want to approve two syncs for me? | 05:40 |
| Fujitsu | Hmm. | 05:40 |
| Fujitsu | One has been duplicated. | 05:40 |
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| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: which ones? | 05:45 |
| Fujitsu | bug #55264 is trackballs... | 05:46 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 55264 in trackballs "Please sync trackballs 1.1.1-4 from Debian Sid" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/55264 | 05:46 |
| Fujitsu | And bug #54402 is playmidi, but it's been duplicated by bddebian in #55085. | 05:46 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 54402 in playmidi "Please sync playmidi 2.4debian-5 from Debian Sid" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/54402 | 05:46 |
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| Hobbsee | oh yeah, i remember trackballs. | 05:47 |
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| micahcowan | how are versions compared for packages? I'm trying to help someone in #ubuntu with a custom package that he doesn't want conflicting with ubuntu-only versions... I advised him to use netatalk_2.0.3~3ubuntu1 (note the tilde), but that appears not to do the trick... | 06:08 |
| LaserJock | micahcowan: you can use dpkg --compare-versions | 06:09 |
| LaserJock | micahcowan: something along the lines of dpkg --compare-versions <packagversion1> lt <packagversion2> | 06:10 |
| micahcowan | LaserJock, thanks; is it completely just an ASCII charval comparison? | 06:10 |
| LaserJock | not sure | 06:10 |
| LaserJock | I wouldn't use a tilde | 06:11 |
| LaserJock | I'd probably go with putting something on the end | 06:11 |
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| micahcowan | so that minor ubuntu revisions would override? I'm not sure that's what he wants... | 06:15 |
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| crimsun | micahcowan: for which release, dapper? | 06:19 |
| micahcowan | well, apparently, it may be what he wants, so he should put it on the end afterwards. crimsun, yeah, I believe he's on dapper. | 06:20 |
| crimsun | micahcowan: 2.0.3-3ubuntu1 is dapper's, so anything newer that isn't newer than a possible update would work. | 06:20 |
| crimsun | 2.0.3-3ubuntu1.1~tackystuffgoeshere1 | 06:21 |
| micahcowan | cool. | 06:22 |
| micahcowan | I'm surprised, though that substituting + for - (before the XubuntuX bit) results in a "greater" version, despite the fact that + is less than -, ascii-character wise. | 06:22 |
| crimsun | right, because the '+' can be part of the original source version. | 06:23 |
| crimsun | '-' is strictly used to separate source version from package revision | 06:24 |
| crimsun | (well, ideally it's only used in such a fashion) | 06:24 |
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| micahcowan | what might I use, then, if I didn't care about any revisions coming down the pipe from debian and ubuntu, only actual version changes to the upstream? +3ubuntu1 or somesuch? | 06:31 |
| crimsun | micahcowan: 2.0.4~blahblahblah1 | 06:37 |
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| !lilo:*! services is restarting, please let us know if you still have a cloak problem after it restarts....thanks | 06:52 | |
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| Hobbsee | hi again all | 07:40 |
| Fujitsu | muse has some conflicts in muse_fr.qm and muse_sv_SE.qm, which appear to be compiled translations. What should be done to them? | 07:53 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: check the dates and the sizes | 07:56 |
| Hobbsee | likely debian has updated them | 07:56 |
| Fujitsu | True. | 07:57 |
| Fujitsu | Ubuntu's are two years older. | 07:57 |
| Fujitsu | Thankyou! | 07:57 |
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| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: :) | 07:59 |
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| Fujitsu | The only remaining Ubuntu change in muse is the removal of rules to backup config.{guess,sub}. Why would that be there in the first place? | 08:06 |
| Fujitsu | Oops. | 08:07 |
| Fujitsu | Not to back them up, but to move them away then link default ones. | 08:07 |
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| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: does the changelog say? | 08:11 |
| Hobbsee | hi dholbach! | 08:11 |
| dholbach | good morning | 08:11 |
| dholbach | hey Hobbsee | 08:11 |
| TheMuso | Hey dholbach. | 08:11 |
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| dholbach | hey TheMuso - i did an orca upload, hope you didn't mind :) | 08:12 |
| TheMuso | dholbach: I now have a Braille display, so will be able to do a lot more a11y/braille testing for brltty, and GNOME. | 08:12 |
| TheMuso | Not at all. | 08:12 |
| dholbach | TheMuso: wow - super | 08:12 |
| TheMuso | dholbach: Am I to assume that orca is not in line with the new python policy yet? | 08:13 |
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| dholbach | uh, no it isn't | 08:14 |
| TheMuso | I can do that if you'd like. | 08:14 |
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| dholbach | it's gnome release today and tomorrow again, so if you want to do that - i'm happy to upload it for you | 08:14 |
| TheMuso | Cheers. | 08:14 |
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| Fujitsu | Hobbsee, the entry in the Debian changelog says thus: | 08:18 |
| Fujitsu | * Updated config.guess and config.sub to the latest versions in | 08:18 |
| Fujitsu | autotools-dev (Closes: #165663). | 08:18 |
| Hobbsee | bug 165663 | 08:18 |
| Hobbsee | debian 165663 | 08:18 |
| Ubugtu | Debian bug 165663 in muse "Subject: muse_0.5.3-1(mipsel/unstable): out of date config.guess / config.sub" [Serious,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/165663 | 08:18 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: what are the ubuntu changes on that package? | 08:18 |
| Fujitsu | Just that at the moment. | 08:19 |
| Fujitsu | And bug 165663 only affects mips. | 08:19 |
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| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: mips? | 08:19 |
| Fujitsu | Yes, mips the archictecture, which Ubuntu doesn't currently do. | 08:20 |
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| Hobbsee | ah | 08:20 |
| Fujitsu | From that bug: `muse has an old version of config.sub and config.guess, which don't correctly support mips and mipsel.' | 08:20 |
| Nafallo | ehm. debian only has it in experimental, but the changelog says it somes from unstable? | 08:21 |
| Nafallo | s/somes/comes/ | 08:21 |
| Fujitsu | I don't see why Ubuntu needs that stuff removed... If we leave it, we score an extra sync. | 08:21 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: yeah, i'd try building and installign the debian version, then requesting a sync | 08:22 |
| Fujitsu | OK, that I shall do. | 08:22 |
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| Hobbsee_ | sigh. | 08:34 |
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| Nafallo | we still got time for merges and new upstream versions in universe, no? | 08:36 |
| Hobbsee | Nafallo: yep | 08:36 |
| Nafallo | nice. I'll start working on jabberd2 then :-) | 08:37 |
| Hobbsee | Nafallo: you've got till sept 7 | 08:37 |
| Nafallo | hehe, I hope I will finish it today, but thanks :-) | 08:37 |
| Hobbsee | Nafallo: :P then you can do all the other merges | 08:38 |
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| TheMuso | Anybody have any ideas as to what one does with packages that are python, but also produce a shared library for bindings to other libraries? | 08:47 |
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| TheMuso | Nothing mentioned here. | 08:49 |
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| crimsun | TheMuso: python-gtk2 comes to mind. | 08:59 |
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| TheMuso | crimsun: Thanks, I'll have a look. | 09:01 |
| Toadstool | 'morning everybody | 09:19 |
| Fujitsu | Evening! | 09:20 |
| Hobbsee | hi Toadstool | 09:20 |
| Nafallo | bon jour Toadstool :-) | 09:20 |
| Hobbsee | Toadstool: Fujitsu has some merges, etc :P | 09:20 |
| Toadstool | :) | 09:20 |
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| Toadstool | let me grab some coffee first, I've just got out of my bed :p | 09:21 |
| Hobbsee | Nafallo: dont you have to do the merge in the process of updating it? | 09:21 |
| Nafallo | Hobbsee: the package in debian experimental is an /entirely/ diffrent story then what was in unstable earlier :-). I'll rather maintain the unstable version. | 09:22 |
| Nafallo | ...in ubuntu that is. | 09:22 |
| Hobbsee | Nafallo: heh. you might have fun next version of ubuntu then? | 09:22 |
| Nafallo | :-) | 09:22 |
| Nafallo | we already does this with gajim ;-) | 09:23 |
| Fujitsu | Anybody have any idea what `${man/[17] /sgml}' is meant to do? I presume it's a bashism... | 09:23 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee, I got a response from the fbi maintainer. He'll fix it up in the next upload, which he's planning to do next Sunday. | 09:24 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: right, cool. you might want to suggest the ubuntu changes to him as well, and ask if he wants to use them in debian. | 09:25 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: seeing as then we can sync it :P | 09:25 |
| Fujitsu | Can anybody help with removing that bashism? | 09:32 |
| === Hobbsee cant. have to go to work :( | ||
| Fujitsu | Urgh, work. | 09:33 |
| Hobbsee | yeah | 09:37 |
| crimsun | it's a pattern substitution | 09:37 |
| Hobbsee | but it get paid, and that bit is useful. | 09:38 |
| crimsun | think s/foo/bar/ | 09:38 |
| Hobbsee | s/it/i' | 09:38 |
| Hobbsee | s/it/i/ | 09:38 |
| Fujitsu | Er, a three argument substitution? | 09:40 |
| Toadstool | Fujitsu: ${man/[17] /sgml} is a bashism, it replaces the first occurrence of 1 or 7 in $man by sgml | 09:41 |
| Toadstool | e.g: foo.1 -> foo.sgml | 09:41 |
| Toadstool | see man bash ;) | 09:41 |
| Fujitsu | Ah. OK... How do I unbashise it? Is there a POSIX-compliant equivalent, or do I have to specify all the files manually? | 09:42 |
| Toadstool | Fujitsu: hmm... you could try something like "${man%[17] }sgml" | 09:48 |
| Toadstool | Fujitsu: with this, 1 or 7 must be at the end of $man though | 09:50 |
| Fujitsu | That seems to have worked, Toadstool... But now I'm getting some unknown instruction errors from the assembler. How pleasant. | 10:08 |
| Toadstool | heh :) | 10:08 |
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| Fujitsu | Ah. I see why. | 10:26 |
| Fujitsu | It's a PowerPC-only package. | 10:26 |
| Fujitsu | >_< | 10:27 |
| Toadstool | :D | 10:27 |
| Fujitsu | I didn't think I knew of an `mr' opcode in the x86 instruction set. | 10:28 |
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| phanatic | morning | 10:52 |
| Gloubiboulga | morning phanatic | 10:56 |
| phanatic | hi Gloubiboulga | 10:57 |
| Gloubiboulga | (damn, mor<tab> never works) | 10:57 |
| Toadstool | hi phanatic | 10:57 |
| phanatic | hi Toadstool | 10:57 |
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| phanatic | if somebody has time to review: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2847 | 11:22 |
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| Fujitsu | How odd. Bug #54845 was marked as fixed 5 days ago, but the new version apparently didn't actually come through. | 11:35 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 54845 in muse "[Sync Request] muse 0.8.1a-2" [Untriaged,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/54845 | 11:35 |
| dholbach | Fujitsu: maybe it FTBFS? | 11:35 |
| Fujitsu | No, it works fine. I checked it myself, and was about to file a sync request when I noticed there was already one, but closed. | 11:36 |
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| crimsun | Fujitsu: that's odd, please ping an admin to have that checked. | 11:59 |
| Fujitsu | An archive admin? | 11:59 |
| Fujitsu | I shall do. | 11:59 |
| crimsun | It's not in the NEW queue (wouldn't need to be), and the source packages haven't appeared on the public mirror at all. | 11:59 |
| Fujitsu | I noticed that. | 12:00 |
| Fujitsu | Also, are things meant to appear on edgy-changes after they are built? Or before? | 12:00 |
| tseng | before. | 12:00 |
| crimsun | that only means they were accepted as source uploads. | 12:01 |
| Fujitsu | I thought so. | 12:01 |
| crimsun | dupload/dput _source.changes -> -> qprocd [-> source NEW] -> publisher -> buildd [-> binary NEW] -> publisher -> mirror (publicly available on archive.uc) | 12:03 |
| crimsun | the accept seen on edgy-changes is right at the end of second stage (after source NEW if necessary) | 12:04 |
| Fujitsu | OK. | 12:05 |
| geser | If I read https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/muse/0.7.1+0.7.2pre5-2ubuntu1 correctly it was first uploaded to edgy and then two hours later the same version to dapper again | 12:06 |
| geser | on the same page are also only build logs for dapper listed | 12:06 |
| Fujitsu | That's the old version. | 12:07 |
| crimsun | no | 12:07 |
| crimsun | ISO date format is used, so it's May 8th vs. June 8th | 12:07 |
| geser | yes, I should read more carefully | 12:08 |
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| crimsun | FWIW, infinity doesn't handle syncs; you probably want to wait for keybuk since kamion is on vacation | 12:10 |
| crimsun | I probably should have clarified that before, d'oh | 12:11 |
| Fujitsu | Ah, I noted that Kamion was on vacation. | 12:11 |
| Fujitsu | Thanks :) | 12:11 |
| crimsun | -> work | 12:12 |
| Fujitsu | Bye! | 12:12 |
| dholbach | Fujitsu: is going to be on vacation | 12:12 |
| dholbach | Fujitsu: <Kamion> mvo: please file bugs and subscribe ubuntu-archive - I'm on holiday for the next two weeks | 12:12 |
| Fujitsu | I'll reopen the existing one, then. | 12:13 |
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| phanatic | hi raphink | 12:24 |
| raphink | hi phanatic | 12:24 |
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| Toadstool | siretart: around? | 01:54 |
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| Toadstool | yay! first MOTU mentor mail :) | 02:15 |
| siretart | Toadstool: yes? (but at work) | 02:16 |
| Toadstool | siretart: hi, I've made a patch for revu1: http://revu.tauware.de/index.py or index.py?archived=false -> shows only current uploads and index.py?archived=true shows archived uploads (with a link to the other page on each one) | 02:16 |
| Toadstool | Gloubiboulga and I think the page is far too long ;) | 02:17 |
| Toadstool | if you're interested in applying the patch, I've published my branch at http://resel.fr/~jcorbier/revu1/ | 02:18 |
| siretart | Toadstool: wow. I definitly am interested in any patches | 02:19 |
| Toadstool | cool :) | 02:19 |
| siretart | Toadstool: yes, you're right. splitting the page is a good idea | 02:22 |
| Fujitsu | Yeah, it's horrifically long at the moment. | 02:22 |
| siretart | Toadstool: one thing: Perhaps we should provide a link to show archived uploads at the main page, no? | 02:23 |
| siretart | I don't see that link in your diff | 02:23 |
| Toadstool | er just under the <h2>...</h2> no? | 02:23 |
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| siretart | arg, my bad. you're right | 02:24 |
| Toadstool | :) | 02:24 |
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| siretart | I can't apply it right now, because the production revu is still running as a svn checkout. I have moving it to a bzr checkout on my list, and when thats done, I will include your patch | 02:26 |
| Toadstool | ok, cool | 02:26 |
| Toadstool | thanks :) | 02:26 |
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| TheMuso | Hey Hobbsee. | 02:29 |
| Hobbsee | hi TheMuso | 02:30 |
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| TheMuso | Night folks | 03:50 |
| Hobbsee | night TheMuso | 03:50 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 04:00 |
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| dholbach | how are we going to deal with pitti's "get your packages sponsored" proposal? | 05:08 |
| bddebian | Deal with it? | 05:10 |
| === Nafallo thinks it is easier to ping folks at IRC ;-) | ||
| bddebian | Hi dholbach :-) | 05:10 |
| Nafallo | hi bddebian :-) | 05:10 |
| bddebian | Heya Nafallo | 05:10 |
| === bddebian would be happy if his sync requests would get done ATM.. :) | ||
| dholbach | we have the 'motureviewers' team everywhere | 05:11 |
| dholbach | and a mailing list for it | 05:11 |
| bddebian | dholbach: ? | 05:14 |
| dholbach | ubuntu-universe-sponsors and motureviewers are slightly redundant, no? | 05:14 |
| bddebian | Well motureviewers are for MOTU-wannabe sponsored uploads for Universe, no? | 05:15 |
| dholbach | and ubuntu-universe-sponsors? | 05:15 |
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| bddebian | dholbach: I'm not sure, is that the one they want to set up for MOTUs to get main uploads sponsored? | 05:19 |
| dholbach | no | 05:19 |
| dholbach | but i'm happier if there's one process we have to document | 05:19 |
| bddebian | Oh, hmm, I don't know then :-) | 05:19 |
| dholbach | :) | 05:19 |
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| Nafallo | dholbach: for people that have lost their gpg-keys? | 05:20 |
| dholbach | Nafallo: and for everybody not being an uploader to ubuntu yet | 05:20 |
| Nafallo | I think it is redundant then... | 05:20 |
| dholbach | we could close down the motureviewers team and stop the mailing list also - it kept on getting a lot of spam | 05:23 |
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| bddebian | dholbach: Yeah, I would drop ubuntu-universe-sponsors | 05:28 |
| Nafallo | indeed | 05:29 |
| Nafallo | that's the new kid, so have less mindshare. | 05:29 |
| dholbach | i would do it otherwise, for having correlation between the team names and the list got more spam than bug mails :/ | 05:30 |
| Nafallo | well... spamfilter anyone? :-) | 05:31 |
| bddebian | dholbach: Aren't you the boss? Do what you want. ;-P | 05:33 |
| dholbach | hahahaha | 05:34 |
| dholbach | far from it ;) | 05:34 |
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| bddebian | dholbach: Well who IS the boss for MOTUs? :-) | 05:34 |
| dholbach | the MOTUs :) | 05:34 |
| bddebian | Scary | 05:35 |
| Nafallo | lol | 05:36 |
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| fryfrog | hi sirs, i have been told by a debian package guy that this would be the chan to dicuss... | 05:36 |
| fryfrog | zomg | 05:36 |
| fryfrog | he is here ;p | 05:36 |
| fryfrog | So anyway, Gallery 2 in debian is nice and current, ubuntu it is... not | 05:37 |
| fryfrog | it'd be super-awsome if that could be resolved :) | 05:38 |
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| fryfrog | it'd be pretty groovy if i wasn't talking to myself too :) | 05:40 |
| bddebian | fryfrog: What is the acutal package name? | 05:40 |
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| schultmc | bddebian: gallery2 | 05:40 |
| fryfrog | gallery2 :) | 05:40 |
| schultmc | if I was a MOTU I could handle this myself :) | 05:40 |
| fryfrog | wait wait, if you were He-Man? | 05:41 |
| schultmc | heh | 05:41 |
| schultmc | by the power of Greyskull, I have the power! | 05:41 |
| Nafallo | hehe | 05:41 |
| === Nafallo has that power, but rarely uses it ;-) | ||
| Nafallo | when I DO upload something it's mostly main anyway :-P | 05:42 |
| === schultmc <3 Ubuntu and would like to help out | ||
| Nafallo | and I can't do that without a proxy-person :-P | 05:42 |
| bddebian | fryfrog: Are you taling about Dapper? | 05:42 |
| Nafallo | s/Dapper/6.06 LTS/g | 05:42 |
| Nafallo | :-) | 05:42 |
| fryfrog | yes, 6.06 | 05:43 |
| fryfrog | specifically, i am gooving around in the server install right now | 05:43 |
| Nafallo | 6.06 is frozen. like sarge in debian :-). | 05:44 |
| nexu | what does LTS stands for anyway ? | 05:44 |
| bddebian | fryfrog: The only way to get that done would be to request a backport on Launchpad. Debian and Ubuntu are in sync for Edgy | 05:44 |
| schultmc | Long Term Support | 05:44 |
| nexu | whats is the big deal about it ? | 05:45 |
| Nafallo | nexu: 3 year security on the desktop | 05:45 |
| Nafallo | nexu: 5 year on the server... | 05:45 |
| Nafallo | so LTS :-) | 05:45 |
| fryfrog | Nafallo: I'm sorry, i don't understand? Frozen? Every day or three, I do an "apt-get update" and there are updated packages? | 05:45 |
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| fryfrog | Nafallo: is it not reasonable to go from Gallery2 2.0.2 -> Gallery 2 2.1.1? | 05:46 |
| fryfrog | Nafallo: if that is the case, its okay cause I can work around it just fine | 05:46 |
| fryfrog | my thought was that I could get Gallery2 package in ubuntu updated *and* make things easier in this silly vmware appliance | 05:46 |
| fryfrog | but i can do the same with svn, it just won't help ubuntu at all | 05:46 |
| nexu | Nafallo: heh | 05:47 |
| Nafallo | fryfrog: security updates and other hi-urgency packages | 05:48 |
| nexu | Nafallo: i wonder or they'll keep their word on it and how they'll realize it | 05:48 |
| nexu | User X: "i need to run app Y and it doesnt work on 6.06 LTS" | 05:48 |
| fryfrog | nexu: what do you mean? assuming they don't just... disappear, seems pretty easy to provide support | 05:48 |
| nexu | well, or they 'll just tell the users to upgrade | 05:49 |
| nexu | or something | 05:49 |
| fryfrog | they support *ubuntus* stuff on it | 05:49 |
| Nafallo | main+restricted | 05:49 |
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| Nafallo | nexu: does app Y exist in ubuntu? :-) | 05:49 |
| Nafallo | nexu: where ubuntu is main + restricted ;-) | 05:50 |
| nexu | ow noes it doesnt! there goes my support ;-( | 05:50 |
| fryfrog | ? | 05:51 |
| fryfrog | nexu: isn't that a bit retarded? | 05:51 |
| nexu | kinda, i was joking anyway | 05:51 |
| fryfrog | nexu: does MS offer support for adobe photoshop? | 05:51 |
| fryfrog | oh :) | 05:51 |
| fryfrog | ;p | 05:51 |
| Nafallo | but then again. we motus can probably upload some of that fixes to dapper-updates if needed to :-) | 05:51 |
| nexu | hence the ;-( | 05:51 |
| Nafallo | like I already uploaded the gajim bugfix release :-) | 05:52 |
| bddebian | Nafallo: But those have to get approved don't they? | 05:52 |
| Nafallo | bddebian: yes, Kamion etc... :-) | 05:53 |
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| Chons | hi. as the task list on the wiki is pretty empty and I would like to contribute, I wonder where to start. | 06:30 |
| LaserJock | Chons: do you know how to create source packages? | 06:31 |
| Chons | not yet, I am working on that | 06:31 |
| LaserJock | Chons: cool | 06:32 |
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| LaserJock | schultmc: cool | 06:46 |
| LaserJock | right now I think mostly we are working on getting all the packages in Edgy updated/merged from Debian unstable | 06:46 |
| LaserJock | as well as doing bug fixes | 06:46 |
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| kozz | what is the number before the : good for in package version? like kdebase-bin has 4:3.5.4-0ubuntu1, the 4 there | 07:17 |
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| schultmc | kozz: that's an epoch | 07:20 |
| schultmc | if you increase an epoch, it makes it so you can install a lower version instead | 07:21 |
| fryfrog | haha, what is an epcoh? | 07:21 |
| fryfrog | oh | 07:21 |
| schultmc | like 3:1.0 can install over 2:2.0 | 07:21 |
| kozz | as I though actually, but thanks | 07:21 |
| kozz | good to be certain | 07:21 |
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| tristanbob_ | are there any Ubuntu projects that involve security compliance checking - something similar to Microsoft Baseline Analyzer? I am interested in enforcing network admission control. | 08:08 |
| tristanbob_ | making sure the system packages are up to date, etc. | 08:08 |
| Yagisan | tristanbob_, use an app such as nessus | 08:11 |
| tristanbob_ | right, that is great for external scanning | 08:11 |
| tristanbob_ | but a client could provide more visibility to internal status | 08:12 |
| tristanbob_ | I was trying to find a #ubuntu-security to ask them, but I didn't see one | 08:12 |
| lucas | tristanbob_: I personnally run a cron job to check that my system is up to date | 08:13 |
| tristanbob_ | lucas: that is also a great idea - however I would like to find a client that can report the status of security updates, and inform the network device of the status | 08:14 |
| tristanbob_ | that way a non-conforming end-station can be isolated and directed to remediation | 08:15 |
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| dholbach | good night everybody | 08:58 |
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| LaserJock | good night dholbach | 08:59 |
| dholbach | night laser | 08:59 |
| dholbach | LaserJock :) | 08:59 |
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| Sp4rKy | hi | 09:23 |
| Sp4rKy | what's the syntaxe for add an url to a manpage ? | 09:23 |
| Sp4rKy | with direct link to the real adress | 09:23 |
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