[12:07] when I put in the cd it asked to upgrade or start package manager, i choose package manager and it added the cd as a source [12:08] but next to no packages are being listed, i see the dapper kernel and a couple of things but thats about it [12:08] for ex, no upgrades are shown for firefox, gnome, xchat and pretty much everything else [12:08] i made sure all other sources are removed so it's only the cd [12:08] railz2 - have a look at your /etc/apt/sources.list [12:08] this is the only line uncommented [12:08] you need to change everything from "hoary" to "dapper" [12:08] deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 6.06 _Dapper Drake_ - Release i386 (20060531)] / dapper main restricted [12:09] railz2... then do a [12:09] sudo apt-get update [12:09] already did [12:09] sudo apt-get upgrade [12:09] sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade [12:09] when i do update or reload in synaptic it's showing only about 8 packages in total that can be upgraded [12:10] i've never done dselect-upgrade whats that? [12:10] same as dist-0upgrade but will remove packages you dont need [12:10] i just wanted to see all the packages available in synaptic first then i was going to kill X and do apt-get dist-upgrade [12:11] railz2 - this isnt the place - try #ubuntu or the mailing lists [12:11] i realize this isn't the place, but no one knows in #ubuntu and the forums are failing me [12:11] this should be relatively easy but can't find the solution === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@c58-107-168-5.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:11] but i'll try elsewhere === cSquirrel [n=Chris@ip092055.uvm.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:44] bmonty: pong === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@CPE-144-137-231-113.wa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xopher [n=xopher@a84-230-124-206.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:46] railz2: sorry, you can't use the live/desktop cd to do upgrades - it's the one failing of it not having the packages on the cd as packages [12:53] i always thought the 'alternate' cd should be called the upgrade cd or something [12:56] except that it's not primarily used for that === micahcowan [n=micah@adsl-69-236-75-39.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:12] ajmitch: any updates on your SoC project? === Lathiat_ [n=lathiat@ubuntu/member/pdpc.basic.lathiat] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:22] are we in UVF for Universe? [01:23] no. [01:23] hub: are you looking at the email about sympa on ubuntu-motu? [01:23] yeah [01:24] it looks like that package is just a sync [01:24] bmonty: I just wanted to make sure I didn't miss something [01:28] Note that there doesn't seem to be a newer sympa in Sid. [01:28] bmonty, hub: edgy has the exact same version as sid, looks like the package is not well maintained in Debian === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:40] There should be a CC meeting tomorrow, shouldn't there? [01:57] i thought it takes place on tuesday [02:02] zul_, it is Tuesday tomorrow here :P [02:03] But I note that there was no meeting on the 25th, when there should have been. === mwolson [i=mwolson@fsf/member/mwolson] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FliesLikeABrick [n=Ryan@about/rpi/rawdor] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FliesLikeALap [n=Ryan@ool-45796272.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Laser_away is now known as LaserJock === caravena [n=caravena@80-55-223-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FliesLikeABrick [n=Ryan@about/rpi/rawdor] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@218.18.72.96] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@218.18.72.96] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:05] grr, my laptop just doesn't like mouse buttons after coming out of hibernation [03:05] macbook? [03:05] no [03:05] toshiba [03:05] ah that explains it :) [03:05] it's kinda crappy [03:05] wrt hibernation [03:06] i heard nothing but bad things about toshibas [03:06] sound doesn't work [03:06] and now the mouse buttons don't work [03:06] I just have to Ctrl-Alt-Backspace [03:07] really [03:07] satellites are a pain based on my experience [03:07] not so much on the Tecras [03:07] it has been a pretty nice machine for me [03:08] not *too* many complaints considering how much I paid for it at the time [03:08] but hibernation is weird to start with I guess [03:08] it goes through the BIOS stuff, etc. [03:09] that isn't normal is it? [03:09] I don't have any other hibernation experience so I'm not sure what other laptops do [03:09] hibernate saves the session in your disk and powers down [03:10] right [03:10] but what is it supposed to do when you come out? [03:10] so when you boot up, you'll still get your bios stuff [03:10] i think what you're expecting is when you suspend to ram [03:10] ah, could be [03:11] dont even try it on a binary video driver its more likely to fail than succeed === OtavioRibeiro [n=otaviori@c90667e5.static.spo.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu === scotth [n=scotth@wv-morgantown-cdnt1-bg5-8c-98.mgtnwv.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === caravena [n=caravena@80-55-223-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:48] Hello, I'm finding in http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnome-system-tools/ the glade.in of gnome-system-log. I do not find it. Somebody knows as it is the file? [03:57] i think gnome-system-log is part of gnome-utils === cSquirrel [n=Chris@ip092161.uvm.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:01] welshbyte: "logview" == "gnome-system-tool"? [04:02] welshbyte: "logview" == "gnome-system-log"? (Sorry) [04:03] geez. [04:03] so in an attempt to not drag in xulrunner's libs, I have to build-depend on firefox-dev and add firefox as an explicit dependency. [04:04] I don't know which hurts more. [04:04] Ouch. [04:05] on top of that, I seem to be triggering a strange feature in GTK+ 2.10.1 in which a dbox doesn't respond to a delete-event. === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away [04:06] caravena: yes, it looks like it [04:07] is === Munchkinguy [n=ubuntu@wnpgmb11dc1-171-76.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:34] I would like to reccomend for inclusion in the universe: Sakreble, a scrabble-type word game [04:34] The source can be found at [04:34] http://sakreble.sourceforge.net/ [04:35] |||||||||||||||||||||\ [04:36] hey imbrandon [04:45] ...because it's the free only gui-based scrabble c [04:45] lone out there === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === micahcowan [n=micah@adsl-69-236-75-39.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:08] hi all [05:14] hey Hobbsee [05:15] hi zul :) === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sevrin [n=sevrin@202.75.186.154] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:28] right im going to bed....night night [05:28] night zul === Cornellius [n=alain@142-217-38-112.telebecinternet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@c58-107-168-5.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:40] Anybody want to approve two syncs for me? [05:40] Hmm. [05:40] One has been duplicated. === mwolson [i=mwolson@pool-71-115-52-84.sbndin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:45] Fujitsu: which ones? [05:46] bug #55264 is trackballs... [05:46] Malone bug 55264 in trackballs "Please sync trackballs 1.1.1-4 from Debian Sid" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/55264 [05:46] And bug #54402 is playmidi, but it's been duplicated by bddebian in #55085. [05:46] Malone bug 54402 in playmidi "Please sync playmidi 2.4debian-5 from Debian Sid" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/54402 === scotth [n=scotth@wv-morgantown-cdnt1-bg5-8c-98.mgtnwv.adelphia.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [05:47] oh yeah, i remember trackballs. === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-30.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Laser_away is now known as LaserJock === RichJ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RichJ is now known as nixternal_ === redguy [n=mati@adb21.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:08] how are versions compared for packages? I'm trying to help someone in #ubuntu with a custom package that he doesn't want conflicting with ubuntu-only versions... I advised him to use netatalk_2.0.3~3ubuntu1 (note the tilde), but that appears not to do the trick... [06:09] micahcowan: you can use dpkg --compare-versions [06:10] micahcowan: something along the lines of dpkg --compare-versions lt [06:10] LaserJock, thanks; is it completely just an ASCII charval comparison? [06:10] not sure [06:11] I wouldn't use a tilde [06:11] I'd probably go with putting something on the end === abelcheung [n=abelcheu@221.126.146.28] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jikanter [n=jordan@c-24-12-220-77.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:15] so that minor ubuntu revisions would override? I'm not sure that's what he wants... === BazziR [n=Bastian@p508038B0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:19] micahcowan: for which release, dapper? [06:20] well, apparently, it may be what he wants, so he should put it on the end afterwards. crimsun, yeah, I believe he's on dapper. [06:20] micahcowan: 2.0.3-3ubuntu1 is dapper's, so anything newer that isn't newer than a possible update would work. [06:21] 2.0.3-3ubuntu1.1~tackystuffgoeshere1 [06:22] cool. [06:22] I'm surprised, though that substituting + for - (before the XubuntuX bit) results in a "greater" version, despite the fact that + is less than -, ascii-character wise. [06:23] right, because the '+' can be part of the original source version. [06:24] '-' is strictly used to separate source version from package revision [06:24] (well, ideally it's only used in such a fashion) === sepheebear is now known as Sepheebear === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === OtavioRibeiro [n=otaviori@c90667e5.static.spo.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:31] what might I use, then, if I didn't care about any revisions coming down the pipe from debian and ubuntu, only actual version changes to the upstream? +3ubuntu1 or somesuch? [06:37] micahcowan: 2.0.4~blahblahblah1 === danielmarsom [n=daniel@222-153-4-155.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === danielmarsom [n=daniel@222-153-4-155.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [06:52] !lilo:*! services is restarting, please let us know if you still have a cloak problem after it restarts....thanks === micahcowan [n=micah@adsl-69-236-75-39.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bmonty is now known as bmonty_away === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:40] hi again all [07:53] muse has some conflicts in muse_fr.qm and muse_sv_SE.qm, which appear to be compiled translations. What should be done to them? [07:56] Fujitsu: check the dates and the sizes [07:56] likely debian has updated them [07:57] True. [07:57] Ubuntu's are two years older. [07:57] Thankyou! === freeflying [n=freeflyi@218.18.72.96] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:59] Fujitsu: :) === nexu [n=nexu@2001:888:10:284:0:0:1ce:c01d] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:06] The only remaining Ubuntu change in muse is the removal of rules to backup config.{guess,sub}. Why would that be there in the first place? [08:07] Oops. [08:07] Not to back them up, but to move them away then link default ones. === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B2E86.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:11] Fujitsu: does the changelog say? [08:11] hi dholbach! [08:11] good morning [08:11] hey Hobbsee [08:11] Hey dholbach. === Fujitsu checks. [08:12] hey TheMuso - i did an orca upload, hope you didn't mind :) [08:12] dholbach: I now have a Braille display, so will be able to do a lot more a11y/braille testing for brltty, and GNOME. [08:12] Not at all. [08:12] TheMuso: wow - super [08:13] dholbach: Am I to assume that orca is not in line with the new python policy yet? === TheMuso can't see any python-support/central deps. [08:14] uh, no it isn't [08:14] I can do that if you'd like. === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:14] it's gnome release today and tomorrow again, so if you want to do that - i'm happy to upload it for you [08:14] Cheers. === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@218.18.72.96] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:18] Hobbsee, the entry in the Debian changelog says thus: [08:18] * Updated config.guess and config.sub to the latest versions in [08:18] autotools-dev (Closes: #165663). [08:18] bug 165663 [08:18] debian 165663 [08:18] Debian bug 165663 in muse "Subject: muse_0.5.3-1(mipsel/unstable): out of date config.guess / config.sub" [Serious,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/165663 [08:18] Fujitsu: what are the ubuntu changes on that package? [08:19] Just that at the moment. [08:19] And bug 165663 only affects mips. === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:19] Fujitsu: mips? [08:20] Yes, mips the archictecture, which Ubuntu doesn't currently do. === Nafallo starts poking at jabberd2 [08:20] ah [08:20] From that bug: `muse has an old version of config.sub and config.guess, which don't correctly support mips and mipsel.' [08:21] ehm. debian only has it in experimental, but the changelog says it somes from unstable? [08:21] s/somes/comes/ [08:21] I don't see why Ubuntu needs that stuff removed... If we leave it, we score an extra sync. [08:22] Fujitsu: yeah, i'd try building and installign the debian version, then requesting a sync [08:22] OK, that I shall do. === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === heretician [n=heretici@69-162-118-5.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #Ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:34] sigh. === Hobbsee_ is now known as Hobbsee [08:36] we still got time for merges and new upstream versions in universe, no? [08:36] Nafallo: yep [08:37] nice. I'll start working on jabberd2 then :-) [08:37] Nafallo: you've got till sept 7 [08:37] hehe, I hope I will finish it today, but thanks :-) [08:38] Nafallo: :P then you can do all the other merges === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu === abelcheung [n=abelcheu@221.126.146.28] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee_ is now known as Hobbsee [08:47] Anybody have any ideas as to what one does with packages that are python, but also produce a shared library for bindings to other libraries? === TheMuso checks the policy [08:49] Nothing mentioned here. === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan_ [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zdra [n=zdra@26.16-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:59] TheMuso: python-gtk2 comes to mind. === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan_ is now known as Yagisan [09:01] crimsun: Thanks, I'll have a look. [09:19] 'morning everybody [09:20] Evening! [09:20] hi Toadstool [09:20] bon jour Toadstool :-) [09:20] Toadstool: Fujitsu has some merges, etc :P [09:20] :) === Nafallo goes for not merging jabberd2, but just updating it. [09:21] let me grab some coffee first, I've just got out of my bed :p [09:21] Nafallo: dont you have to do the merge in the process of updating it? [09:22] Hobbsee: the package in debian experimental is an /entirely/ diffrent story then what was in unstable earlier :-). I'll rather maintain the unstable version. [09:22] ...in ubuntu that is. [09:22] Nafallo: heh. you might have fun next version of ubuntu then? [09:22] :-) [09:23] we already does this with gajim ;-) [09:23] Anybody have any idea what `${man/[17] /sgml}' is meant to do? I presume it's a bashism... [09:24] Hobbsee, I got a response from the fbi maintainer. He'll fix it up in the next upload, which he's planning to do next Sunday. [09:25] Fujitsu: right, cool. you might want to suggest the ubuntu changes to him as well, and ask if he wants to use them in debian. [09:25] Fujitsu: seeing as then we can sync it :P [09:32] Can anybody help with removing that bashism? === Hobbsee cant. have to go to work :( [09:33] Urgh, work. [09:37] yeah [09:37] it's a pattern substitution [09:38] but it get paid, and that bit is useful. [09:38] think s/foo/bar/ [09:38] s/it/i' [09:38] s/it/i/ [09:40] Er, a three argument substitution? [09:41] Fujitsu: ${man/[17] /sgml} is a bashism, it replaces the first occurrence of 1 or 7 in $man by sgml [09:41] e.g: foo.1 -> foo.sgml [09:41] see man bash ;) [09:42] Ah. OK... How do I unbashise it? Is there a POSIX-compliant equivalent, or do I have to specify all the files manually? [09:48] Fujitsu: hmm... you could try something like "${man%[17] }sgml" [09:50] Fujitsu: with this, 1 or 7 must be at the end of $man though [10:08] That seems to have worked, Toadstool... But now I'm getting some unknown instruction errors from the assembler. How pleasant. [10:08] heh :) === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:26] Ah. I see why. [10:26] It's a PowerPC-only package. [10:27] >_< [10:27] :D [10:28] I didn't think I knew of an `mr' opcode in the x86 instruction set. === lloydinho [n=andreas@192.38.119.63] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=gervysta@217-133-96-194.b2b.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pschulz01 [n=paul@202.174.42.5] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === shenki [n=shenki@ppp168-250.lns3.adl4.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lukketto [n=lukketto@host155-106.pool8259.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:52] morning [10:56] morning phanatic [10:57] hi Gloubiboulga [10:57] (damn, mor never works) [10:57] hi phanatic [10:57] hi Toadstool === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-097-194.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lukketto [n=lukketto@host155-106.pool8259.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [11:22] if somebody has time to review: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2847 === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-131-067.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === geser [n=michael@85.25.109.14] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:35] How odd. Bug #54845 was marked as fixed 5 days ago, but the new version apparently didn't actually come through. [11:35] Malone bug 54845 in muse "[Sync Request] muse 0.8.1a-2" [Untriaged,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/54845 [11:35] Fujitsu: maybe it FTBFS? [11:36] No, it works fine. I checked it myself, and was about to file a sync request when I noticed there was already one, but closed. === herzi [n=herzi@kiwi.mediascape.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pmjdebruijn [n=pmjdebru@pmjdebruijn.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Czubek [n=Damian@82.160.179.3] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nathandh [n=nathandh@dD5779A06.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:59] Fujitsu: that's odd, please ping an admin to have that checked. [11:59] An archive admin? [11:59] I shall do. [11:59] It's not in the NEW queue (wouldn't need to be), and the source packages haven't appeared on the public mirror at all. [12:00] I noticed that. [12:00] Also, are things meant to appear on edgy-changes after they are built? Or before? [12:00] before. [12:01] that only means they were accepted as source uploads. [12:01] I thought so. [12:03] dupload/dput _source.changes -> -> qprocd [-> source NEW] -> publisher -> buildd [-> binary NEW] -> publisher -> mirror (publicly available on archive.uc) [12:04] the accept seen on edgy-changes is right at the end of second stage (after source NEW if necessary) [12:05] OK. [12:06] If I read https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/muse/0.7.1+0.7.2pre5-2ubuntu1 correctly it was first uploaded to edgy and then two hours later the same version to dapper again [12:06] on the same page are also only build logs for dapper listed [12:07] That's the old version. [12:07] no [12:07] ISO date format is used, so it's May 8th vs. June 8th [12:08] yes, I should read more carefully === herzi [n=herzi@kiwi.mediascape.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:10] FWIW, infinity doesn't handle syncs; you probably want to wait for keybuk since kamion is on vacation [12:11] I probably should have clarified that before, d'oh [12:11] Ah, I noted that Kamion was on vacation. [12:11] Thanks :) [12:12] -> work [12:12] Bye! [12:12] Fujitsu: is going to be on vacation [12:12] Fujitsu: mvo: please file bugs and subscribe ubuntu-archive - I'm on holiday for the next two weeks [12:13] I'll reopen the existing one, then. === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:24] hi raphink [12:24] hi phanatic === derjohn [n=derjohn@dslb-084-058-240-229.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === maploin [n=maple@86.123.200.16] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lloydinho_ [n=andreas@192.38.119.63] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lloydinho_ is now known as lloydinho === MatthewV is now known as WikiMan === allee [n=ach@dialin-145-254-252-135.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === WikiMan is now known as MatthewV [01:54] siretart: around? === Chons [n=martin@xdsl-213-196-194-13.netcologne.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@219.134.56.164] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@219.134.56.164] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cain_ [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:15] yay! first MOTU mentor mail :) [02:16] Toadstool: yes? (but at work) [02:16] siretart: hi, I've made a patch for revu1: http://revu.tauware.de/index.py or index.py?archived=false -> shows only current uploads and index.py?archived=true shows archived uploads (with a link to the other page on each one) [02:17] Gloubiboulga and I think the page is far too long ;) [02:18] if you're interested in applying the patch, I've published my branch at http://resel.fr/~jcorbier/revu1/ [02:19] Toadstool: wow. I definitly am interested in any patches [02:19] cool :) [02:22] Toadstool: yes, you're right. splitting the page is a good idea [02:22] Yeah, it's horrifically long at the moment. [02:23] Toadstool: one thing: Perhaps we should provide a link to show archived uploads at the main page, no? [02:23] I don't see that link in your diff [02:23] er just under the

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no? === nexu is now known as n3xu [02:24] arg, my bad. you're right [02:24] :) === alleeHol [n=ach@dialin-212-144-130-248.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:26] I can't apply it right now, because the production revu is still running as a svn checkout. I have moving it to a bzr checkout on my list, and when thats done, I will include your patch [02:26] ok, cool [02:26] thanks :) === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:29] Hey Hobbsee. [02:30] hi TheMuso === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cSquirrel [n=Chris@vt-williston-cuda1a4-128.sbtnvt.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@219.134.56.164] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B2E86.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === n3xu is now known as nexu === cSquirrel [n=Chris@vt-williston-cuda1a4-128.sbtnvt.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === luca1189 [n=luca1189@adsl-ull-16-200.42-151.net24.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:50] Night folks [03:50] night TheMuso === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:00] Heya gang === stratus [n=stratus@cronopio.rits.org.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nexu is now known as uxen === nexu [n=nexu@2001:888:10:284:0:0:1ce:c01d] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nexu is now known as uxen === luca1189 [n=luca1189@adsl-ull-16-200.42-151.net24.it] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === beshy [n=beshy@85.89.201.75] has joined #ubuntu-motu === uxen is now known as nexu === Czubek [n=Damian@82.160.179.3] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zdra [n=zdra@196.31-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:08] how are we going to deal with pitti's "get your packages sponsored" proposal? [05:10] Deal with it? === Nafallo thinks it is easier to ping folks at IRC ;-) [05:10] Hi dholbach :-) [05:10] hi bddebian :-) [05:10] Heya Nafallo === bddebian would be happy if his sync requests would get done ATM.. :) [05:11] we have the 'motureviewers' team everywhere [05:11] and a mailing list for it [05:14] dholbach: ? [05:14] ubuntu-universe-sponsors and motureviewers are slightly redundant, no? [05:15] Well motureviewers are for MOTU-wannabe sponsored uploads for Universe, no? [05:15] and ubuntu-universe-sponsors? === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Spec-[x] is now known as Spec [05:19] dholbach: I'm not sure, is that the one they want to set up for MOTUs to get main uploads sponsored? [05:19] no [05:19] but i'm happier if there's one process we have to document [05:19] Oh, hmm, I don't know then :-) [05:19] :) === bddebian is always clueless [05:20] dholbach: for people that have lost their gpg-keys? [05:20] Nafallo: and for everybody not being an uploader to ubuntu yet [05:20] I think it is redundant then... [05:23] we could close down the motureviewers team and stop the mailing list also - it kept on getting a lot of spam === jaldhar_ [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:28] dholbach: Yeah, I would drop ubuntu-universe-sponsors [05:29] indeed [05:29] that's the new kid, so have less mindshare. [05:30] i would do it otherwise, for having correlation between the team names and the list got more spam than bug mails :/ [05:31] well... spamfilter anyone? :-) [05:33] dholbach: Aren't you the boss? Do what you want. ;-P [05:34] hahahaha [05:34] far from it ;) === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:34] dholbach: Well who IS the boss for MOTUs? :-) [05:34] the MOTUs :) [05:35] Scary [05:36] lol === fryfrog [n=fryfrog@gallery/fryfrog] has joined #ubuntu-motu === schultmc waves @ fryfrog [05:36] hi sirs, i have been told by a debian package guy that this would be the chan to dicuss... [05:36] zomg [05:36] he is here ;p [05:37] So anyway, Gallery 2 in debian is nice and current, ubuntu it is... not [05:38] it'd be super-awsome if that could be resolved :) === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:40] it'd be pretty groovy if i wasn't talking to myself too :) [05:40] fryfrog: What is the acutal package name? === Nafallo looks at bddebian [05:40] bddebian: gallery2 [05:40] gallery2 :) [05:40] if I was a MOTU I could handle this myself :) [05:41] wait wait, if you were He-Man? [05:41] heh [05:41] by the power of Greyskull, I have the power! [05:41] hehe === Nafallo has that power, but rarely uses it ;-) [05:42] when I DO upload something it's mostly main anyway :-P === schultmc <3 Ubuntu and would like to help out [05:42] and I can't do that without a proxy-person :-P [05:42] fryfrog: Are you taling about Dapper? [05:42] s/Dapper/6.06 LTS/g [05:42] :-) [05:43] yes, 6.06 [05:43] specifically, i am gooving around in the server install right now [05:44] 6.06 is frozen. like sarge in debian :-). [05:44] what does LTS stands for anyway ? [05:44] fryfrog: The only way to get that done would be to request a backport on Launchpad. Debian and Ubuntu are in sync for Edgy [05:44] Long Term Support [05:45] whats is the big deal about it ? [05:45] nexu: 3 year security on the desktop [05:45] nexu: 5 year on the server... [05:45] so LTS :-) [05:45] Nafallo: I'm sorry, i don't understand? Frozen? Every day or three, I do an "apt-get update" and there are updated packages? === Kyral_Laptop [n=Kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:46] Nafallo: is it not reasonable to go from Gallery2 2.0.2 -> Gallery 2 2.1.1? [05:46] Nafallo: if that is the case, its okay cause I can work around it just fine [05:46] my thought was that I could get Gallery2 package in ubuntu updated *and* make things easier in this silly vmware appliance [05:46] but i can do the same with svn, it just won't help ubuntu at all [05:47] Nafallo: heh [05:48] fryfrog: security updates and other hi-urgency packages [05:48] Nafallo: i wonder or they'll keep their word on it and how they'll realize it [05:48] User X: "i need to run app Y and it doesnt work on 6.06 LTS" [05:48] nexu: what do you mean? assuming they don't just... disappear, seems pretty easy to provide support [05:49] well, or they 'll just tell the users to upgrade [05:49] or something [05:49] they support *ubuntus* stuff on it [05:49] main+restricted === scotth [n=scotth@157.182.209.170] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:49] nexu: does app Y exist in ubuntu? :-) [05:50] nexu: where ubuntu is main + restricted ;-) [05:50] ow noes it doesnt! there goes my support ;-( [05:51] ? [05:51] nexu: isn't that a bit retarded? [05:51] kinda, i was joking anyway [05:51] nexu: does MS offer support for adobe photoshop? [05:51] oh :) [05:51] ;p [05:51] but then again. we motus can probably upload some of that fixes to dapper-updates if needed to :-) [05:51] hence the ;-( [05:52] like I already uploaded the gajim bugfix release :-) [05:52] Nafallo: But those have to get approved don't they? [05:53] bddebian: yes, Kamion etc... :-) === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === geser [n=michael@85.25.109.14] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === redguy [n=mati@adi174.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:30] hi. as the task list on the wiki is pretty empty and I would like to contribute, I wonder where to start. [06:31] Chons: do you know how to create source packages? [06:31] not yet, I am working on that [06:32] Chons: cool === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-250-59-127.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nexu is now known as trooperflooper === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === schultmc knows how to create source packages and would also like to help [06:46] schultmc: cool [06:46] right now I think mostly we are working on getting all the packages in Edgy updated/merged from Debian unstable [06:46] as well as doing bug fixes === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === frafu [n=frafu06@vodsl-8312.vo.lu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === trooperflooper is now known as nexu [07:17] what is the number before the : good for in package version? like kdebase-bin has 4:3.5.4-0ubuntu1, the 4 there === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:20] kozz: that's an epoch [07:21] if you increase an epoch, it makes it so you can install a lower version instead [07:21] haha, what is an epcoh? [07:21] oh [07:21] like 3:1.0 can install over 2:2.0 [07:21] as I though actually, but thanks [07:21] good to be certain === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-30.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === elmargol [n=elmargol@host237-61.pool8248.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=gervysta@217-133-96-194.b2b.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TomaszD [n=tom@unaffiliated/tomaszd] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@71.57.11.218] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Shadow42 [n=wifihack@h218.196.40.69.ip.alltel.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-64-26-167-82.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ZuZuu [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-42-52.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tristanbob_ [i=tristanb@137.190.3.107] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chons [n=martin@xdsl-213-168-118-207.netcologne.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:08] are there any Ubuntu projects that involve security compliance checking - something similar to Microsoft Baseline Analyzer? I am interested in enforcing network admission control. [08:08] making sure the system packages are up to date, etc. [08:11] tristanbob_, use an app such as nessus [08:11] right, that is great for external scanning [08:12] but a client could provide more visibility to internal status [08:12] I was trying to find a #ubuntu-security to ask them, but I didn't see one [08:13] tristanbob_: I personnally run a cron job to check that my system is up to date [08:14] lucas: that is also a great idea - however I would like to find a client that can report the status of security updates, and inform the network device of the status [08:15] that way a non-conforming end-station can be isolated and directed to remediation === Toadstool [n=jcorbier@ubuntu/member/toadstool] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === lloydinho [n=andreas@rosinante.egmont-kol.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:58] good night everybody === Toadstool [n=jcorbier@ubuntu/member/toadstool] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:59] good night dholbach [08:59] night laser [08:59] LaserJock :) === caravena [n=caravena@130-34-50.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Toadstool [n=jcorbier@ubuntu/member/toadstool] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Sp4rKy [n=Sp4rKy@ubuntu/member/sp4rky] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:23] hi [09:23] what's the syntaxe for add an url to a manpage ? [09:23] with direct link to the real adress === Hawkwind [n=SoS@ulteo/community/leader/forum/admin/Hawkwind] has joined #Ubuntu-MOTU === maploin [n=maple@86.123.200.16] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Toadstool [n=jcorbier@ubuntu/member/toadstool] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mat [n=mat@igoan/mat] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Toadstool [n=jcorbier@ubuntu/member/toadstool] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Toadstool [n=jcorbier@ubuntu/member/toadstool] has joined #ubuntu-motu === geser [n=michael@85.25.109.14] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon_ [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fryfrog [n=fryfrog@gallery/fryfrog] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === imbrandon_ is now known as imbrandon === imbrandon_ [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cassidy [n=cassidy@f1-pc174.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon_ is now known as imbrandon === scotth [n=scotth@157.182.209.170] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === bmonty_away is now known as bmonty === Hawkwind [n=SoS@ulteo/community/leader/forum/admin/Hawkwind] has joined #Ubuntu-MOTU === Spec is now known as x-spec-t === mat [n=mat@igoan/mat] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lathiat [n=lathiat@ubuntu/member/pdpc.basic.lathiat] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mat [n=mat@igoan/mat] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu