[12:01] <mwe> dboaba: I know some people are using it on macs
[12:01] <dooglus> nocarrier: I connected fine
[12:01] <sasalli> hi me again. I fix partition problem. There is indicator of formatting. when it's on %100, it's disapear. installation can't continue.what is that?
[12:01] <dooglus> nocarrier: which channel?
[12:01] <railz2> i'm only seeing about 10 packages from dapper for ex. linux 2.6.15
[12:01] <nocarrier> #new
[12:01] <dr_willis> sasalli,  once ya format it. This is a usb drive eh?
[12:01] <enyc> sasalli: Dapper 'desktop' (live) cd has some know problems....
[12:01] <fistandantilus> man one of my ubuntu machines is just being stubborn and wont except ICS from this machine .. can ping each other all day long but the second machine wont reach out to the net .. i thought you just had to enable ICS with firestarter and add a policy for the machines ip?
[12:01] <dboaba> I mac a PPC mac, and I would like to boot from an external HD. The ubuntu disk installed it fin on the external HD (which is firewire), but when I reboot (holding option) and pick that drive to boot from, it either freezes up, or goes back to the same page
[12:02] <j-goddess> bye folks
[12:02] <enyc> sasalli: I would be tempted to try the 'alternate' CD...
[12:02] <sasalli> live dvd
[12:02] <printk> railz2: Sorry i can't help, i've n ever used the a cd to upgarde a distro via apt-get
[12:02] <Falcon4> yay. xchat. one sec.
[12:02] <hosler> How would I go about partitioning my hd to have about 8 different distros on it?
[12:02] <printk> railz2: if you just chagne your sources.list to use the dapper mirrors it'd be a very simple upgrade :)
[12:02] <sasalli> sorry, i can't undrestand
[12:02] <enyc> sasalli: get the 'alternate' cd then... it has the breezy/debian like installer that is more robust than thi live installer
[12:02] <stefg> fistandantilus: you might be interested in http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/3/1/
[12:03] <sasalli> should i try with another ubuntu dvd?
[12:03] <enyc> sasalli: thi installer on the 'live' (desktop) disk haD[D[Ds some known problems....
[12:03] <enyc> sasalli: I would try with  a **NOT** live disk
[12:03] <enyc> sasalli:  dapper ALTERNATE cd...
[12:03] <marshall__> one of my dvd drives doesnt appear in Computer. Does anyone know how to get it to show?
[12:03] <sasalli> hmm
[12:03] <fistandantilus> stefg: im actually running his script ;/ the one machine just doesnt like me even setup to his specs
[12:03] <dboaba> I mac a PPC mac, and I would like to boot from an external HD. The ubuntu disk installed it fin on the external HD (which is firewire), but when I reboot (holding option) and pick that drive to boot from, it either freezes up, or goes back to the same page
[12:03] <digitalpenguin> Frankenstein_BRB: i got the usual errors
[12:04] <dboaba> the live cd works, but I want to install programs
[12:04] <enyc> sasalli: aaaah
[12:04] <enyc> sasalli:  the DVD is install and live
[12:04] <sasalli> yes i know.
[12:04] <sasalli> it can't install
[12:04] <stefg> fistandantilus: hmmm, so what's firestarters opinion on that?
[12:04] <DanaG|Away> How slow would it be to run Ubuntu from a USB drive?
[12:04] <Frankenstein_BRB> digitalpenguin, what errors?
[12:04] <DanaG|Away> I think it might be uselessly slow.
[12:04] <enyc> sasalli: I would ty booting it to the traditional installer
[12:04] <marshall__> one of my dvd drives doesnt appear in Computer. Does anyone know how to get it to show?
[12:05] <dr_willis> DanaG|Away,  depends on the job.. it can be very slow.
[12:05] <digitalpenguin> Frankenstein_BRB:  Error writing /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied ] 
[12:05] <Dodzey> DanaG|Away, USB 2 wouldn't be too bad
[12:05] <dboaba> I mac a PPC mac, and I would like to boot from an external HD. The ubuntu disk installed it fin on the external HD (which is firewire), but when I reboot (holding option) and pick that drive to boot from, it either freezes up, or goes back to the same page
[12:05] <eosyn> any php folks here that can tell me why php5 barfs opening a url as a file even when allow_url_fopen is set to on
[12:05] <fistandantilus> stefg: i had firestarter totally turned off initally when i was trying to get it to run with his script, as he states you should do, couldnt get it to roll, so i decided to try with firestarter but im still not having any luck
[12:05] <sasalli> tradional?
[12:05] <digitalpenguin> after pasting what you told me to
[12:05] <Dodzey> DanaG|Away, although, is it possible to boot from USB 2 drives?
[12:05] <sasalli> traditional?
[12:05] <Falcon4> yeah, this is like, so much nicer. lol
[12:06] <Frankenstein_BRB> digitalpenguin, you will have to excuse my lack of detail, you need to run sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list instead of nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:06] <sasalli> is there a update or patch about that?
[12:06] <enyc> sasalli: y
[12:06] <dboaba> anyone know this... otting from an external on mac
[12:06] <enyc> es... like ubuntu breezy and before
[12:06] <dboaba> *booting
[12:06] <enyc> sasalli: yes... like ubuntu breezy and before
[12:06] <Frankenstein_BRB> digitalpenguin, than continue on with the directrions :) sorry for the lack of detial, im not fully awake at the moment
[12:06] <digitalpenguin> hehe
[12:06] <sasalli> how can i use?
[12:06] <stefg> fistandantilus: so there i'm running out of ideas, because i don't need ICS personally and have no real hands on experience  with that
[12:07] <digitalpenguin> Frankenstein_BRB: its ok im not fully um i suck at linux lol
[12:07] <stylin> Hi everyone
[12:07] <Falcon4> alright. so back at that losetup thing. i have a /loop, but not a /loop0... should i have a /loop0?
[12:07] <rpedro> marshall__: my suggestion is open System >> Administration >> Disks , and add a mount point like '/media/cdrom1' for the drive in question
[12:07] <dboaba> I mac a PPC mac, and I would like to boot from an external HD. The ubuntu disk installed it fin on the external HD (which is firewire), but when I reboot (holding option) and pick that drive to boot from, it either freezes up, or goes back to the same page
[12:07] <dboaba> i really need some help
[12:07] <fistandantilus> stefg: thanks anyway supposedly this is supposed to be working im sure im missing one small thing
[12:08] <TheGateKeeper> Frankenstein_BRB: digitalpenguin probable in here tomorrow evening so would be interested to hear if you get this resolved, and what worked :-)
[12:08] <_-Sneaky-_> hey
[12:08] <digitalpenguin> Frankenstein_BRB: well i will talk to you then
[12:08] <digitalpenguin> Frankenstein_BRB: if i have any more questions ill ask around
[12:08] <_-Sneaky-_> fhvtrtryytf
[12:08] <marshall__> rpedro: ok im in Disks Manager but it doesnt look like i can change anything
[12:09] <digitalpenguin> Frankenstein_BRB: its doing the updates now
[12:09] <Frankenstein_BRB> digitalpenguin, that should put your machine back to working again
[12:09] <digitalpenguin> Frankenstein_BRB: well
[12:09] <digitalpenguin> Frankenstein_BRB: it was close
[12:10] <rpedro> marshall__: ok, just checked , seems you need to have a disk in the drive to configure this way
[12:10] <Frankenstein_BRB> digitalpenguin, just remember after you run sudo apt-get update and there are no errors run sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:10] <dboaba> is there _anyone_ here that knows about booting from an external hard drive, or are the forums going to be a better option???
[12:10] <digitalpenguin> during the upgrade it got errors?
[12:10] <marshall__> rpedro: ok i just put in a dvd video and the icon changed and theres a video tab. the only thing under the video tab is 'Play Video'
[12:10] <Frankenstein_BRB> digitalpenguin, errors during sudo apt-get upgrade? what were they
[12:10] <dboaba> _anyone_
[12:11] <rpedro> marshall__: after you have a disk in the drive, reopen the dialogue and there should be a tab for the drive you want where you can change the 'access path'
[12:11] <eternaljoy> anyone know of a free URL forwarding/redirection Service that is free from popups?
[12:11] <digitalpenguin> let me make a paste of it
[12:11] <rpedro> marshall__: still no icon on the desktop?
[12:11] <digitalpenguin> Frankenstein_BRB: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19896
[12:12] <stylin> where can I globally add a path to shared libs ?
[12:12] <Falcon4> hey. anyone? is /dev/loop0 supposed to exist or is it just /dev/loop?
[12:12] <sasalli> How can i Update Ubuntu?
[12:12] <Blinker> mwe: still around?
[12:12] <dboaba> sasalli: what are you using ubuntu on
[12:12] <printk> sasalli: assuming your sources.list is setup correctly.  apt-get update and then apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:12] <erUSUL> sasalli: System>Admin>Update manager
[12:12] <marshall__> rpedro: no, still no icon. the only tabs are properties and dvd video
[12:12] <stefg> Falcon4: it has to be /dev/loop0
[12:12] <Frankenstein_BRB> digitalpenguin, did you run sudo apt-get update BEFORE that?
[12:12] <sasalli> ok
[12:12] <digitalpenguin> yes
[12:13] <Falcon4> stefg: great. hell. only /dev/loop exists.. what do i need to do to make /dev/loop0?
[12:13] <digitalpenguin> Frankenstein_BRB: yes i did
[12:13] <stefg> Falcon4: sudo losetup -f should tell you about your loop-devices
[12:14] <BHSPitMonkey> is there a special repo that delivers firefox more currently, the "official" repos are still at 1.5.0.5...
[12:14] <Falcon4> /dev/loop/0
[12:14] <Falcon4> all it says
[12:14] <Frankenstein_BRB> digitalpenguin, only thing i can think of is that you may have breezy which means you would need to use the breezy srouces.list instead... run sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and change every word that says dapper to breezy, than run sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade, if that fails i suggest just reinstalling :)
[12:14] <lmosher> I use a transparent (mostly) panel and I'm switching to a darker background - how do I change the panel font color?
[12:14] <Frankenstein_BRB> digitalpenguin, but now i have errands to run, so good luck
[12:14] <rpedro> marshall__: there's probably somethign at ubuntuforums.org , still searching...
[12:14] <stefg> Falcon4: oh, wait... /dev/loop is a _dir_ with 0,1,2,... being subdirs
[12:14] <sasalli> which update for installation?
[12:15] <Falcon4> ahh... so i guess that tutorial was wrong. LOL!
[12:15] <TheGateKeeper> Frankenstein_BRB: cat /etc/issue says it is dapper
[12:15] <rpedro> marshall__: this is a desktop we're talking about right?
[12:15] <Falcon4> well that solves another problem.
[12:15] <stefg> Falcon4: so /dev/loop/0 would be valod
[12:15] <stefg> *valid
[12:15] <digitalpenguin> Frankenstein_BRB: im just going to re-install its quicker and less of a hassle to me then ill get gdesklets to work
[12:16] <digitalpenguin> Frankenstein_BRB: thank you for the help though
[12:16] <Falcon4> hmm. now i just cross my fingers, and when i get back to that hard drive i'll see if i can mount that elusive image and check my email for the first time in 20-odd hours :P
[12:16] <sasalli> Dapper?
[12:16] <TheGateKeeper> digitalpenguin: use those URL's I gave you I think you will find them usefull
[12:17] <maleficus> I need help trouble shooting a video problem, I have an ATi Radeon 9800 Pro and Unreal Tournament 2004 Crashes at menu, Warcraft III can't get past the menu either using the latest WINE, I just installed Ubuntu today and have no idea how to update drives.
[12:17] <rpedro> marshall__: can you paste the contents of your /etc/fstab at pastebin?
[12:17] <rpedro> !paste
[12:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:17] <Wheelybin> Hello there. I'm trying to install nvidia graphics drivers, but in order to do that, I need to get out of xwindows/server. How can I do that on Ubuntu?
[12:17] <rpedro> marshall__: ^^
[12:17] <Dodzey> wheelybin: did you install from the repo's?
[12:17] <aujordanh> !nvidia > Wheelybin
[12:17] <stefg> Wheelybin: don't do the installer from nvidia, use the ones provided by ubuntu
[12:18] <Dodzey> wheelybin: exactly
[12:18] <erUSUL> Wheelybin: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[12:18] <Wheelybin> No, I went to the nvidia website.
[12:18] <Wheelybin> !nvidia
[12:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:18] <niall> !easyubuntu
[12:18] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[12:18] <sasalli> There is no update for Ubuntu installation.
[12:18] <lmosher> I use a transparent (mostly) panel and I'm switching to a darker background - how do I change the panel font color?
[12:20] <niall> how do i change which browser opens when i click a link in xchat-gnome
[12:20] <sasalli> is there other mothod for installation?
[12:20] <railz2> has anyone here used the ubuntu cd to perform an update via apt?
[12:20] <erUSUL> niall: System>Preferences>P apps
[12:20] <erUSUL> !install > sasalli
[12:20] <railz2> i have the cd listed in sources.list but no packages seem to be showing even after doing update
[12:21] <whiteguysamurai> alright, i need a favor
[12:21] <whiteguysamurai> anyone in the helping mood?
[12:21] <erUSUL> !anyone > whiteguysamurai
[12:21] <whiteguysamurai> lol, ok
[12:21] <Luke> I'm trying to submit a bug bug cant find the package it pertains to in the bugtracker.... any help?
[12:21] <stefg> Wheelybin: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable ... paste this line to a terminal, and press ctrl-alt-backspace and you should have 3D nvidia working
[12:21] <aujordanh> !anyone > jordanau
[12:21] <redcard> Luke: Are you sure you have a bug, first off..
[12:21] <whiteguysamurai> i now have dapper installed, but for some reason my atheros wireless doesn't seem to work.
[12:22] <aujordanh> !anyone > aujordanh
[12:22] <erUSUL> !wifi > whiteguysamurai
[12:22] <Luke> redcard: its already a bug, i'm marking it for upstream
[12:22] <redcard> Ahh :)
[12:22] <Luke> redcard: i just dont know how to use launchpad
[12:22] <redcard> What's it's number?
[12:22] <Wheelybin> Thank's stefg, but I read the wiki, and I'm better off with the legacy drivers as it's a geforce 2 gts
[12:22] <DanaG|Away> !winmodem
[12:22] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[12:22] <Luke> redcard: 52553
[12:22] <printk> man the new compiz and cgwd with the themer is rocking :)
[12:23] <Gumby> does anyone here use amd64?  I ma having issues with mouse click sensitivity on my laptop touchpad.  I dont see anywhere in the mouse settings to adjust this.  Basically anytime I put my finger on the touchpad to move the mouse a mouseclick happens.
[12:23] <stefg> Wheelybin: so you get the extar-points for paying attention :-)
[12:23] <printk> in todays update
[12:23] <sasalli> can i install ubuntu without desktop installation?
[12:23] <DanaG|Away> hmm, I get:
[12:23] <DanaG|Away> ./scanModem: line 1566: Vendor: command not found
[12:23] <whiteguysamurai> i have tried to tinker with it in the usual place, wireless.
[12:23] <whiteguysamurai> but it freezes and then nothing works.
[12:23] <Wheelybin> Yay! Anyway *busy reading faq*
[12:23] <erUSUL> sasalli: yes there is an alternate cd
[12:23] <erUSUL> !alternate > sasalli
[12:23] <whiteguysamurai> is madwifi already install in dapper or not?
[12:23] <Luke> printk: how do you get to the theme manager?
[12:23] <redcard> Luke:Looks like it's libdrm (Ubuntu)
[12:23] <lmosher> is there any way to change my panel font color??
[12:23] <DanaG|Away> You can add Option "MaxTapTime" "0" to turn off tapping altogether.
[12:23] <Gumby> whiteguysamurai: have you tried seaching for the module on your hard drive?
[12:23] <Luke> redcard: libdrm? i'm pretty sure its the linux kernel image
[12:24] <Gumby> DanaG|Away: is that in xorg.conf?
[12:24] <sasalli> where is the alternate?
[12:24] <whiteguysamurai> um, no...i'm not sure how to do that...
[12:24] <redcard> Is that Debian 52533?
[12:24] <Luke> redcard: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/52553
[12:24] <whiteguysamurai> noob
[12:24] <printk> Luke: i am using gnome and compiz-start script to start compiz.  That automaticlaly starts cgwd for me and in my gnome panel i have a compiz icon, i can right click on it and select
[12:24] <printk> Themes
[12:24] <printk> Luke: make sure you have the cgwd-themes package installed
[12:24] <Luke> printk: where did you find that?
[12:24] <printk> Luke: no longer need gcompizthemer etc.. it's built into new cgwd
[12:25] <redcard> Ah, I went to the wrong 52533 :P
[12:25] <Luke> printk: do you have a forum post you've found about this or something?
[12:25] <Luke> redcard: this is the ubuntu channel no?
[12:25] <printk> yah one sec
[12:25] <printk> !xgl
[12:25] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:25] <redcard> Or rather, I went to 52533 and not 52553 :)
[12:25] <erUSUL> whiteguysamurai: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Madwifi (second time)
[12:25] <printk> not that one luke hold on
[12:25] <Luke> printk: cool thanks
[12:25] <whiteguysamurai> i'm not sure if i need to untar madwifi or not
[12:26] <stefg> sasalli: http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/
[12:26] <Dodzey> Luke: visit compiz.net quinns compiz packages are good
[12:26] <maleficus> Alright I followed that binarydriverhowto link for ATI/Nvidia drivers and did everything it said, seemed to have no errors until the end
[12:26] <whiteguysamurai> lol, sorry.
[12:26] <maleficus> where it said:
[12:26] <whiteguysamurai> thanks
[12:26] <maleficus> Warning: Option 'VideoOverlay' doesn't affect running session.
[12:26] <maleficus> Warning: Option 'OpenGLOverlay' doesn't affect running session.
[12:26] <maleficus> Using /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:26] <maleficus> does that mean it failed?
[12:26] <maleficus> or just won't take effect until restart?
[12:26] <sasalli> For alternate cd is that right? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=459705
[12:26] <mwe> !paste
[12:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:26] <Luke> Dodzey: thanks
[12:26] <printk> Luke: ok join #ubuntu-xgl and follolw the links in the topic.  It describes how to set it up.. i'm using quinnstorm
[12:27] <maleficus> 3 lines really isn't spam is it?
[12:27] <mwe> maleficus: yes
[12:27] <Dodzey> Luke: that'll explain cgwd aswell, its qiunns creation, so she is the person to ask ;-)
[12:27] <mwe> maleficus: ops get angry for any pasting > 1 line
[12:27] <maleficus> Ok, thanks for the info then
[12:28] <Luke> redcard: ah i figured it out, i was clicking upstream when I meant to click "distribution"
[12:28] <digitalhav0c> mwe, finally got my wireless connection work yah
[12:28] <digitalhav0c> thanks
[12:28] <erUSUL> maleficus: in such a crowded channel im afraid that it is spam indeed
[12:28] <mwe> digitalhav0c: great
[12:28] <Luke> printk: ok thanks
[12:28] <redcard> Luke:  *nods*
[12:28] <Luke> Dodzey: thanks
[12:28] <digitalhav0c> i dont really know how i guess it finally just picked up a good signal
[12:28] <maleficus> It's cool i'll use pastebin next time
[12:28] <digitalhav0c> anyone know if its possible to use to separte internet connections for different things
[12:29] <digitalhav0c> i've got a cable connection and a clearwire connection
[12:29] <Blinker> mwe: I followed the instructions for installing those ati.com drivers and video rendering is still horrendously slow (i can count the miliseconds as they pass by in the game timer =x )
[12:29] <Wheelybin> Success! Yay for Ubuntu!
[12:29] <mwe> Blinker: what does glxinfo|grep direct say?
[12:29] <digitalhav0c> wondering if it would be possible to use cable connection for hum browsing the web irc, aim ...
[12:29] <Blinker> mwe: how would I find out?
[12:29] <mwe> Blinker: type it in a terminal
[12:29] <farous> Blinker: what does fglrxinfo say
[12:29] <digitalhav0c> and use the wireless for server or the other way around
[12:30] <mwe> farous: I just asked him to glxinfo|grep direct
[12:30] <digitalhav0c> Wheelybin,
[12:30] <PortagemyAs5> suse or ubuntu?
[12:30] <digitalhav0c> if you need help with unreal tournament
[12:30] <digitalhav0c> just hit me up tommorrow
[12:30] <farous> mwe: if he installed the ati property drivers he should use the ati utils :)
[12:30] <Wheelybin> first I'm gonna get BOINC and put this cpu to use. And thankyou.
[12:30] <mwe> farous: glxinfo|grep direct will show if dri is working
[12:31] <shadeofgrey> does anybody in here use kmail?
[12:31] <digitalhav0c> nope
[12:31] <Blinker> mwe: "no"
[12:31] <mwe> Blinker: it's not working then
[12:31] <shadeofgrey> i have no friggin clkue holw to set wordwrap
[12:31] <shadeofgrey> it wants a value of how many COLUMNS -- not characters and i have no idea what that means
[12:31] <stefg> shadeofgrey: chances are there's someone in #kubuntu
[12:31] <mwe> Blinker: did you change xorg.conf correctly and is the fglrx  module loaded?
[12:31] <farous> mwe: both work. yet fgl_glxgears will test things the free mesa-utils cann't
[12:32] <shadeofgrey> yeah and every someone in the kubuntu channel is...  basically ignoring just about everybody
[12:32] <Blinker> I honestly couldn't say? still kinda learning linux here
[12:32] <mwe> farous: if he get direct rendering: no it sure is not working
[12:32] <mwe> Blinker: lsmod|grep fglrx
[12:32] <farous> mwe: ok
[12:33] <Blinker> mwe: and what should that do?
[12:33] <farous> Blinker: just why did not you install the driver from the repos and saved your self the hastle
[12:33] <mwe> Blinker: hopefully show that fglrx is loaded
[12:33] <Blinker> farous: because I did that and it was performing poorly
[12:33] <harisund> Does anyone know of any tool that can create a nice HTML page from an info manual? This GNU info is so hard to read ....
[12:33] <Blinker> mwe: didnt visibly do anything
[12:33] <mwe> Blinker: it's not working. trust me
[12:33] <mwe> Blinker: it's not loaded then
[12:34] <Warbo> Does anyone know what might cause an SDL/OpenGL game to crash with certain packages installed? (It works on a clean system, but not with the packages I am currently using. The list of differences would be too huge to compile)
[12:34] <mwe> Blinker: sudo modprobe fglrx and try the lsmod|grep fglrx again
[12:34] <eleazar123> hey guys, what do i need to apt-get to get mp3 playback ability? when i try to import my .mp3's into rhythmbox it says 'this file is not an audio stream'
[12:34] <harisund> !restricted formats
[12:34] <mwe> Blinker: did you change xorg.conf too?
[12:34] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:34] <Warbo> !mp3 > eleazar123
[12:34] <farous> mwe: he can not do that if the ati module is running
[12:34] <eleazar123> thanks :)
[12:34] <linux_user400354> has anyone got a webcam to work in ubuntu. i am about to pull out all my hair trying to get mine to work.
[12:34] <mwe> farous: do what?
[12:34] <Warbo> linux_user400354: Mine "just worked"
[12:35] <stoooooook> hi, my friend is having some problems installing libglib1.2 I was wondering if someone could help
[12:35] <mwe> Blinker: ?
[12:35] <farous> mwe: if he have x then he have the ati open source driver loaded which conflict with the fglrx one. you can not modprobe fglrx while ati is loaded
[12:35] <linux_user400354> does anyone know where the supported webcam list is for ubuntu?
[12:35] <stoooooook> in synaptic a search of libglib only has libglib2.0 which is alraedy installed but he needs libglib1.2
[12:35] <stoooooook> sudo apt-get install libglib1.2 gives this error:
[12:35] <Blinker> mwe: 'could not open: no such file/dir'
[12:35] <digitalhav0c> linux_user400354, i couldn't get mine to work either
[12:35] <Warbo> !hardware > linux_user400354
[12:35] <digitalhav0c> i have a cheap dynex one from bestbuy
[12:35] <stoooooook> Package libglib1.2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[12:35] <mwe> Blinker: you didn't install the driver
[12:35] <Blinker> and I didnt make any manual changed to corg
[12:36] <digitalhav0c> !hardware
[12:36] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[12:36] <stoooooook> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[12:36] <Blinker> changes*
[12:36] <mwe> Blinker: did you even follow the directions?
[12:36] <stoooooook> is only available from another source
[12:36] <Blinker> yes
[12:36] <harisund> Does anyone know of any tool that can create a nice HTML page from an info manual? This GNU info is so hard to read ....
[12:36] <stoooooook> E: Package libglib1.2 has no installation candidate
[12:36] <farous> Blinker: in a terminal sudo modprobe -l |grep fglrx
[12:36] <Blinker> 'step by step'
[12:36] <stoooooook> any ideas?
[12:36] <linux_user400354> digitalhav0c, dont give up so easily. it probably can be done.
[12:36] <mwe> Blinker: I don't think you read the page. it tells you to do those things
[12:36] <jackinthebox> how do i configure a linksys wireless-B notebook card?
[12:36] <Warbo> stoooooook: Are you trying to install a Debian package? That is a common type of problem with doing that
[12:36] <mwe> farous: I told him to do that
[12:36] <mwe> farous: are you just trying to be annoying or do you want to take over?
[12:37] <Warbo> !wireless > jackinthebox
[12:37] <stoooooook> Warbo: i think so?
[12:37] <linux_user400354> how can i know the model # of my logitech quickcam express?
[12:37] <DanaG|Away> Oh, where can I get the logitech-applet?
[12:37] <stoooooook> i dunno?
[12:37] <jackinthebox> warbo: that how you set it up?
[12:37] <BHSPitMonkey> linux_user400354, see what the command "lsusb" gives you.
[12:37] <stoooooook> we tried it with synaptic (no packages listed) and sudo apt-get install libglib1.2
[12:37] <Warbo> stoooooook: I mean have you added a Debian repository, or have you downloaded a Debian .deb file? Debian and Ubuntu use different versions of stuff
[12:37] <DanaG|Away> NVM, found it.
[12:37] <farous> mwe: i did not find your post where you said that
[12:38] <Warbo> jackinthebox: Well, I have a RaLink card that worked out of the box
[12:38] <farous> but i will leave you both together now
[12:38] <h3h_timo> im having a problem with the azureus popups not disappearing... can anybody help me out
[12:38] <linux_user400354> lsusb gives me the information about the usb bus. it does not tell me the model number
[12:38] <Blinker> mwe: what was the original link you supplied me with again?
[12:38] <mwe> farous: whatever. modprobe fglrx said no such file
[12:38] <mwe> !ati > Blinker
[12:38] <stoooooook> running ubuntu, did not download anything (can't find the packages)
[12:38] <Warbo> stoooooook: Oh, what are you trying to get running?
[12:39] <linux_user400354> lsusb -v gives better information
[12:39] <stoooooook> QW
[12:39] <stoooooook> :D
[12:39] <stoooooook> quakeworld
[12:39] <linux_user400354> but it still does not give me the model number
[12:39] <gnomefreak> stoooooook: apt-cache search libglib
[12:39] <mwe> Blinker: please install the module and change xorg.conf according to the wiki. then come back
[12:39] <wasauce> how can i setup ubuntu to shutdown if idle for say 20 minutes. I know there is a suspend and hibernate feature inside power management but I am looking for a shutdown.
[12:39] <Warbo> stoooooook: Never tried it
[12:39] <stoooooook> we just need the libglib
[12:39] <h3h_timo> could someone help me with getting the azurues popups to dissappear?
[12:39] <farous> mwe: whatever is not an answer and i said i will leave you both
[12:39] <linux_user400354> stoooooooook, why cant you use a newer version of libglib?
[12:40] <Warbo> stoooooook: Have you tried
[12:40] <linux_user400354> stoooooook, look in the breezy repos for an old version
[12:40] <Warbo> !info quakeforge
[12:40] <ubotu> Package quakeforge does not exist in dapper
[12:40] <Warbo> Dammit, I must have added it myself :)
[12:40] <gnomefreak> stoooooook: i have it libglib1.2
[12:40] <jackinthebox> also any reccomendations on a good .zip arhiver?
[12:40] <linux_user400354> jackinthebox: gzip or bzip2
[12:40] <Falcon4> okay, i need a hex editor -- or just a hex viewer even -- that can handle massive (20gb) files... third time i'm asked at least, soo...?
[12:40] <jackinthebox> thnx
[12:41] <gnomefreak> stoooooook: do you have the repos enabled or jus tthe cd repo?
[12:41] <linux_user400354> jackinthebox: they have better compression than .zip archives
[12:41] <stoooooook> gonna have to dummy down the terminology for me a bit guys, sorry:)
[12:41] <stoooooook> what repositories
[12:41] <Warbo> 7zip is better than gzip/bzip2 (although it uses it's own container)
[12:41] <Blinker> mwe: i did modify xorg, using the ati-supplied scripts: "aticonfig --initial" "aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv"
[12:41] <mwe> Falcon4: just get alot of ram and any hex editor will work 
[12:41] <stoooooook> dont i have to do some like... build-essentials or something?
[12:41] <dr_willis> build-essential
[12:41] <wasauce> how can i setup ubuntu to shutdown if idle for say 20 minutes. I know there is a suspend and hibernate feature inside power management but I am looking for a shutdown.
[12:41] <mwe> Blinker: I don't know if that works
[12:41] <linux_user400354> Warbo: 7zip is the same as bzip2 -9
[12:41] <Falcon4> mwe: lmao, not even my HDD can handle that whole file as a file
[12:41] <gnomefreak> stoooooook: build-essential has nothing to do with libglib
[12:41] <Blinker> mwe: which is why I'm verifying manually
[12:41] <mwe> Blinker: it will not work until you install the fglrx module
[12:42] <Falcon4> mwe:  considering as it's an image of the drive i'm running linux on now
[12:42] <idefix> how do you unjar jar-files?
[12:42] <stoooooook> libglib1.2 doesnt' show up when he does the apt-cache  search
[12:42] <Warbo> linux_user400354: Have you ever tried 7zip on the highest setting? (in the manual) I couldn't be bothered to wait for a 5MB file after about an hour
[12:42] <stoooooook> can he just d/l the libglib1.2 from somewhere and then manually install?
[12:42] <linux_user400354> idefix: you could use the jar command line program that comes with java runtime environment
[12:42] <gnomefreak> stoooooook: please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file on pastebin
[12:42] <steveO_> you do not want to manually install lib files
[12:43] <steveO_> you'll screw yourself.
[12:43] <Warbo> Getting libs on their own may be dodgy, since dependencies can be tricky
[12:43] <technel> So I installed a Maxtor external hard drive. For some reason around this time I can login with my username/password, but in the terminal when I type "su" and try to type the same password, it says auth failure
[12:43] <Falcon4> i think i got it! the offset was 32768 :D
[12:43] <wasauce> Does anyone know where the script is that relates to the power management features?
[12:43] <idefix> linux_user400354, great, how do I start it up? alt-F2 then what?
[12:43] <Warbo> technel: Su is disabled for non-root users. Use sudo
[12:43] <mwe> blind: install xorg-driver-fglrx
[12:43] <mwe> Blinker:  install xorg-driver-fglrx
[12:43] <gnomefreak> Warbo: i think he just has the cdrom repo enabled (not the real repos)
[12:43] <linux_user400354> Warbo: no, i havent. whaty are you saying? are you saying the compression with 7zip takes a long time?
[12:43] <gnomefreak> liglib1.2 is in main
[12:44] <Falcon4> wait. nevermind. it mounted a blank filesystem :(
[12:44] <technel> Warbo, I feel like an idiot. Seriously, I have been on Ubuntu for several months now... flashbacks?
[12:44] <linux_user400354> idefix, do you have jre5.0 installed?
[12:44] <stoooooook> how do you enable it?
[12:44] <technel> Warbo, But thanks
[12:44] <stoooooook> i guess need to edit the sources.list ?
[12:44] <printk> gnomefreak: bbs?
[12:44] <marshall__> rpedro: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19897
[12:44] <erUSUL> !sources > stoooooook
[12:44] <marshall__> rpedro: thanks for helping me man
[12:44] <Blinker> mwe: is that a terminal command?
[12:44] <Falcon4> guys, i really need a way to hex-view the first 64KiB of a 20GiB image
[12:45] <idefix> linux_user400354 it's not in the synaptic list
[12:45] <Falcon4> just to find the offset :S
[12:45] <linux_user400354> idefix: yes it is
[12:45] <mwe> Blinker: sudo aptitude install xorg-driver-fglrx
[12:45] <linux_user400354> idefix: search java sun in synaptic
[12:45] <Warbo> !info sun-java5-bin
[12:45] <ubotu> sun-java5-bin: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 21625 kB, installed size 65608 kB
[12:45] <mwe> Blinker: didn't the wiki tell you to do that?
[12:45] <DanaG|Away> argh, all the logitech-applet links are dead.
[12:45] <linux_user400354> DanaG|Away: where did you get a logitech-applet?
[12:46] <Gumby> DanaG|Away: thanks for that tip.  worked like a charm
[12:46] <Falcon4> is it really such a foreign concept that such a simple task is impossibly difficult??
[12:46] <ppd> hi. does anybody know how to get the linux printer package from samsung working on dapper?
[12:46] <Blinker> mwe: just searched the wiki page, and I don't see that command anywhere
[12:46] <idefix> linux_user400354 I have fastjar, j2re1.4, libgnujaxp-jni, libjaxp1.2-java and libservlet2.3-java
[12:46] <zuhause01xx> Hello!
[12:46] <mwe> Blinker: read it again https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[12:46] <digitalhav0c> is ndiswrapper only for wireless cards?
[12:46] <mwe> Blinker: it's all there
[12:47] <idefix> linux_user400354 I searched for jre and jre5.0 earlier..
[12:47] <Gumby> digitalhav0c: yes
[12:47] <digitalhav0c> Gumby
[12:47] <mwe> Blinker: go to the dapper instructions
[12:47] <gregg__> Falcon4: you could chop off the first 64kb with dd
[12:47] <stoooooook> gnome: deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted
[12:47] <stoooooook> gnomefreak, deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted
[12:47] <Falcon4> gregg__: FINALLY, someone with a clue! :D
[12:47] <Falcon4> i'll try :P
[12:47] <digitalhav0c> that would be a cool concept if some one could write something like that for all devices
[12:47] <Gumby> does anyone here know if there is an amd64 channel
[12:47] <gregg__> Falcon4: but... there are also on-disk hex editors available
[12:47] <Gumby> for ubuntu that is
[12:47] <digitalhav0c> at lest all those that are not supported my linux at the moment
[12:47] <zuhause01xx> i am using Breezy and want to use my HP scanjet 2300c but it is not recognized by Xsane scanner ... can anybody be of some help please?
[12:47] <idefix> linux_user400354 ok so alt-F2 j2re1.4?
[12:47] <gregg__> I can't give you names though...
[12:48] <Falcon4> gregg__: that's exactly what i needed... i have Ghex but it doesn't even want to come near my file, i can chop off the 64k and check it out myself though :P
[12:48] <marshall__> rpedro: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19897
[12:48] <Falcon4> didn't know what dd was for, but i'll figure it out now :)
[12:48] <linux_user400354> idefix: no
[12:48] <gregg__> Falcon4: dd if=image.bin of=image.64k bs=64k count=1
[12:48] <Blinker> mwe: ok yeah, it was there (and I did it) - was just written differently
[12:48] <djk_> does badblocks search for badblocks in the filesystem or on the hdd?
[12:48] <linux_user400354> idefix: thats an old version
[12:48] <linux_user400354> idefix: get 1.5.0
[12:49] <stoooooook> i dont understand why i install it and didn't have any probs but he can't even see the libglib1.2
[12:49] <linux_user400354> or whatever the newest version is
[12:49] <idefix> but that's not in the list!
[12:49] <mwe> Blinker: so you did install fglrx? does dpkg -l|grep fglrx confirm that?
[12:49] <linux_user400354> idefix: yes it is
[12:49] <Warbo> idefix: It's called sun-java5-bin
[12:49] <idefix> so synaptic lists can get outdated?
[12:49] <Falcon4> root@ubuntu:~# dd if=/media/usbdisk/PhysicalDisk0.img of=/home/falcon/Desktop/64k.bin bs=64k count=1
[12:49] <mwe> Blinker: and why didn't you edit xorg.conf like it says?
[12:49] <Falcon4> seems to have worked :P
[12:49] <djk_> linux_user400354: 1.5.6 would be a better choice..
[12:49] <Warbo> idefix: In Multiverse (make sure you have multiverse enabled)
[12:49] <wasauce> how do i check the time my ubuntu computer has been idle from the command line?
[12:50] <steveO_> try just uptime
[12:50] <gregg__> Falcon4: yep
[12:50] <steveO_> er
[12:50] <steveO_> top
[12:50] <Blinker> mwe: confirmed, and I already said that I used the scripts. looking at xorg now.
[12:50] <mwe> Blinker: good then
[12:50] <Falcon4> wow. i knew it headed the file with junk data... "About DiskImage...", etc
[12:50] <linux_user400354> idefix: put this command into terminal "sudo apt-get install -y --force-yes sun-java5-jre"
[12:50] <idefix> I have the binary non-free (multiverse) enabled
[12:50] <mwe> Blinker: at least the module is installed
[12:50] <Warbo> linux_user400354: Why all of the forces??! If it is there then it will work, if not then it won't
[12:50] <idefix> I'll close synaptic first
[12:51] <idefix> E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-jre
[12:51] <Warbo> idefix: Are you on x86, amd64 or PPC?
[12:51] <mwe> Blinker: you need to restart gdm or reboot for it to take effect though. also put fglrx in /etc/modules to make it load at every boot
[12:51] <linux_user400354> idefix: sudo apt-get update
[12:51] <linux_user400354> then try the other one again
[12:51] <PortagemyAs5> aka_druid, why did you ban me?
[12:51] <mwe> Blinker: does lsmod | grep fglrx show it's loaded?
[12:51] <Blinker> mwe: may I PM?
[12:51] <Blinker> lemme see
[12:51] <mwe> Blinker: ok
[12:52] <mwe> Blinker: /j #mwe
[12:52] <idefix> Warbo AMD S754
[12:52] <linux_user400354> Warbo: those options are good cause then you dont have to answer anymore questions about installing dependencies ect
[12:52] <PortagemyAs5> aka_druid you are a tight ass.
[12:52] <Warbo> idefix: OK, just that Java packages don't seem to be in PPC repos
[12:53] <idefix> Reading package lists... Done
[12:53] <Warbo> linux_user400354: I prefer answering questions to wondering which package has screwed my system :)
[12:53] <linux_user400354> idefix: you can get java 1.5.0 from www.java.sun.com
[12:53] <idefix> it still can't find it
[12:53] <Warbo> What is that wrapper for Sun's .bin files?
[12:53] <linux_user400354> Warbo: dont assume you cant figure out how you screwed up your system if you used those options
[12:53] <EnsignRedshirt> I have a single CPU that is a Pentium 4 with "hyperthreading".  Would the -686-smp kernel be the one to use?  (I don't know much about the hardware, and I don't know how -- if at all -- hyperthreading and smp are related.)
[12:54] <__che__> !mp3
[12:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:54] <forevertheuni> hi..so..now we should use gnome-network management?
[12:54] <linux_user400354> idefix: apt-cache search jar | grep -v lib
[12:54] <forevertheuni> I'm trying to connect to a wpa wireless network..but when I install wpa_supplicant package I have no init script :(
[12:54] <Seveas> forevertheuni, that's because it has none
[12:55] <Seveas> !wpa > forevertheuni
[12:55] <forevertheuni> :/
[12:55] <__che__> hey I'm sick of these mp3 problems!
[12:55] <forevertheuni> Seveas: the wiki is outdated then
[12:55] <__che__> is there some good mp3-to-ogg converter?
[12:55] <__che__> and reverse?
[12:55] <Seveas> in ubuntu wpa is done via network_manager or /etc/network/interfaces
[12:55] <forevertheuni> Seveas: should I use gnome network config?
[12:55] <idefix> linux_user400354 I get a big list
[12:55] <forevertheuni> Seveas: :/ can you give me a hint?
[12:55] <MatthewV> __che__, sound-converter will work with those provided you have enabled mp3 support on your system
[12:55] <idefix> 37 lines
[12:55] <forevertheuni> Seveas: cause the wiki doesn't have a thing
[12:55] <MatthewV> !info sound-converter
[12:55] <ubotu> Package sound-converter does not exist in dapper
[12:55] <forevertheuni> I have an atheros
[12:55] <MatthewV> !info sound-convertor
[12:55] <ubotu> Package sound-convertor does not exist in dapper
[12:55] <Seveas> forevertheuni, hang on
[12:55] <MatthewV> :(
[12:55] <BHSPitMonkey> does ANYONE know when firefox 1.5.0.6 will make it into the repos?
[12:56] <Warbo> idefix: If you have to get Java from sun.com then make sure you use java-package
[12:56] <Seveas> auto ath0
[12:56] <Seveas> iface ath0 inet dhcp
[12:56] <Seveas> wpa-driver madwifi
[12:56] <Seveas> wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
[12:56] <forevertheuni> oh if I want to run a command after setting up my eth0(non wireless ..like route add -net blalvbbla) what do I put in network/interfaces?
[12:56] <linux_user400354> i dont know but im tired of ubuntu having old software in the repos. i like the newest software.
[12:56] <idefix> is sun.com one of the repos? no, right?
[12:56] <Warbo> MatthewV: 1)er, 2) no -
[12:56] <EnsignRedshirt> __che__: If you don't mind the command line, there is sox.
[12:56] <Seveas> forevertheuni, that's in my /e/n/i
[12:56] <forevertheuni> just that 2 lines?
[12:56] <forevertheuni> ok tnx
[12:56] <__che__> EnsignRedshirt: not at all
[12:56] <danf_1979> Automated server setup for Dapper, I'm searching for feedback: http://www.mundowebhosting.com/forums/topic.php?post=3#post3
[12:56] <Seveas> forevertheuni, you still need to edit /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
[12:56] <KenSentMe|zzz> How can i disable msttcorefonts temporarily on my system?
[12:56] <idefix> linux_user400354 why don't they delete the old stuff?
[12:57] <__che__> why do I get this message "The application might not support your system architecture." when I try to use Add/Remove ?
[12:57] <linux_user400354> idefix: try opening the the jar in file roller. java1.4 will work.
[12:57] <Warbo> idefix: I mean if you need to go on java.sun.com and download a binary installer, if you use java-package then it will create an Ubuntu package for you
[12:57] <Seveas> KenSentMe|zzz, sudo apt-get remove msttcorefonts
[12:57] <forevertheuni> Seveas: hmm I have /etc/wpa_supplicant :D
[12:57] <__che__> for example when I try to Add Blender - "'blender' is not available in any software channel"
[12:57] <Seveas> !find blender
[12:57] <ubotu> Found: blender, blender-ogrexml
[12:57] <MatthewV> __che__, sorry, its called soundconverter see !info soundconverter for more info
[12:57] <Seveas> !info blender
[12:57] <ubotu> blender: Very fast and versatile 3D modeller/renderer. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.41-1ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 4734 kB, installed size 12588 kB
[12:58] <idefix> Warbo and then it'll appear in the synaptic list?
[12:58] <Seveas> __che__, fix your sources.list then 
[12:58] <Warbo> idefix: It will after you have installed it
[12:58] <idefix> so you can uninstall it too easily then
[12:58] <Warbo> idefix: I haven't used it before, but I assume it is relatively simple
[12:58] <__che__> MatthewV: ok ;)
[12:58] <KenSentMe|zzz> Seveas: isn't there a way to move a folder or something. I want to disable them only for this session
[12:58] <forevertheuni> Seveas: may I ask why that options are not in network configuration gui?
[12:58] <__che__> Seveas: how is that done? I was hoping Ubuntu is point-and-click ;)
[12:58] <bnD> lol
[12:58] <Seveas> forevertheuni, because the only gui that understands wpa is network-manager
[12:59] <__che__> !info soundconverter
[12:59] <ubotu> soundconverter: simple sound converter application for GNOME. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.8.3-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 32 kB, installed size 216 kB
[12:59] <forevertheuni> Seveas: from gnome?
[12:59] <Seveas> forevertheuni, the standard network thing is 'netapplet'
[12:59] <Seveas> but that only does wep
[01:00] <forevertheuni> Seveas: :/ ok
[01:00] <forevertheuni> so what about to create a route after ifup eth0?
[01:00] <forevertheuni> post-up? in interfaces file?
[01:00] <EnsignRedshirt> Is there any point in using the SMP kernel if I have a single Pentium 4 with hyperthreading?
[01:00] <forevertheuni> or is it another command?
[01:00] <mjr> EnsignRedshirt, yes
[01:00] <mjr> EnsignRedshirt, hyperthreading is handled by the SMP support
[01:00] <Seveas> forevertheuni, post-up route ...
[01:01] <forevertheuni> Seveas: ok tnx
[01:01] <__che__> problems with Add/Remove are solved
[01:01] <EnsignRedshirt> mjr: OK, thanks.
[01:01] <forevertheuni> bye
[01:01] <forevertheuni> Seveas: tnx
[01:01] <Faked_Sympathy> Hey, I'm having some issues installing ubuntu, can I get some help?
[01:02] <DanaG|Away> Here's a nice way around the "no su" issue:  sudo bash.
[01:02] <Warbo> Faked_Sympathy: Tell us your problem and we'll see
[01:02] <Faked_Sympathy> okay.
[01:02] <Warbo> sudo -s -H
[01:02] <Falcon4> SUHWEET! okay, one last question. i mounted my image file to /media/ntfs under root. but when i try to access it from the file browser in the main shell, i get "you do not have permission" errors. under Root, I can see ALL my old files! (yay!) how do i fix this?
[01:02] <Howitzer> Does anyone here know of a way to make Xine auto-repeat every file by default?
[01:02] <Faked_Sympathy> I put in the liveCD, right? It says hit enter. so I do. it loads a buncha little processes...then it's a solid black screen
[01:02] <uber_mort> Howdy all!   I'm trying to help a buddy of mine, he has just installed Ubuntu.  Everything works just dandy until we try to install his nvidia drivers.  The drivers seem to install alright, but once we change his Xorg.conf settings to the nvidia driver X just freezes.  We get no errors or anything, hes using a 6800GS.  Any ideas
[01:02] <idefix> I'll try again tomorrow
[01:03] <Warbo> Faked_Sympathy: What kind of hardware are you on?
[01:03] <_cat> _dna
[01:03] <_cat> =****
[01:03] <Faked_Sympathy> What do you wanna know? It's not a great computer, but it works...
[01:03] <djk_> mwe: i just checked my hdd with badblocks, apparently there are 28. any way to fix that?
[01:03] <Warbo> Faked_Sympathy: RAM, CPU, etc.
[01:03] <_dna> XD
[01:03] <_dna> _cat =*********
[01:03] <Falcon4> ummm... wtf? was "sudo -s -H" directed at me?
[01:03] <redcard> djk: No way to fix bad blocks.
[01:03] <Faked_Sympathy> 256mbRAM, Mobile AMD Sempron 2800
[01:04] <_dna> XD
[01:04] <_cat> xD
[01:04] <mwe> djk_: oh. I think you need a special program for you specific hdd to mark them as bad. not sure
[01:04] <_dna> este canal me da miedo _cat :x
[01:04] <Warbo> No, at DanaG|Away
[01:04] <_dna> io me salgo XDD
[01:04] <evilghost> Hello fellow Ubuntu users ;)
[01:04] <_cat> son elites
[01:04] <_cat> yo tmb
[01:04] <mwe> djk_: I hope it's not dead
[01:04] <_cat> xD
[01:04] <djk_> redcard: so, is 28 much?
[01:04] <Faked_Sympathy> so what do you think, wardo? you know what I can do to fix this? I'm sick of windows being a pain in my ass
[01:04] <Warbo> Faked_Sympathy: Does it go through any messages?
[01:05] <Warbo> (and it's a "b")
[01:05] <Falcon4> ah. well, any solution to a mount that doesn't have permission to be viewed? i had that problem with DSL and I'm just so fucking sick of being locked out of my own computer, pardon my french.
[01:05] <EnsignRedshirt> Off to reboot. Ciao.
[01:05] <redcard> djk_: I dunno, really.. but when you have bad blocks, the OS simply marks them and they are no longer used.
[01:05] <gorski> how to locate libmp3lame.so on my computer?
[01:05] <Howitzer> sudo find / -name libmp3lame*
[01:05] <Faked_Sympathy> Uh.. when I hit enter like it says, it goes to a black screen shows it executing a buncha little processes...and after a bunch of them it says [success]  which would make me think it's working
[01:05] <Faked_Sympathy> they go too fast to read, though
[01:05] <Falcon4> like this chat room.
[01:05] <djk_> mwe: well, it is still working, no idea for how long though
[01:06] <rpedro> gorski: trying to export to mp3 with audacity?
[01:06] <evilghost> Falcon4:  What's your issue exactly?  You have a drive mounted that you can't access?
[01:06] <Warbo> Faked_Sympathy: OK, so it is not completely trashed. Are they white-on-black or orangey-brown-on-black?
[01:06] <linux_user400354> idefix: old stuff is not deleted. having old software has some advantages. the newest software usually has bugs that still need to be worked out while the old software has been tested more and is more stable.
[01:06] <djk_> redcard: so would you suggest replacing it with a new one or just formatting and setting up a new filesystem?
[01:06] <Faked_Sympathy> white on black
[01:06] <gorski> yes! :)
[01:06] <Falcon4> yeah. i FINALLY was able to crack my physical-disk-backup-image open with losetup, but now i mount it and only Root (the user I wish I could be) can access it.
[01:06] <Warbo> Hmm, no usplash
[01:07] <redcard> djk_: Are there any physical noises/things occurring?
[01:07] <gorski> rpedro, yes.
[01:07] <forevertheuni> Seveas: :/ I don't get it my wpa_supplicant is running...but doesn't do nothing :/
[01:07] <Faked_Sympathy> I'm back at the screen with the UBUNTU logo that tells me to hit ENTER for the default live system
[01:07] <evilghost> Falcon4:  What is the image type, raw, iso9660, ext?
[01:07] <forevertheuni> (does nothing)
[01:07] <Falcon4> well, NTFS.
[01:07] <Warbo> Faked_Sympathy: Is there a safe/recovery one?
[01:07] <forevertheuni> Seveas: :/ it's running with correct commands :/
[01:07] <Falcon4> @ evilghost
[01:07] <rpedro> gorski: that .so has slightly different name on ubuntu
[01:07] <Faked_Sympathy> what do you mean?
[01:08] <Seveas> forevertheuni, sudo wpa_cli status
[01:08] <djk_> redcard: right now, no. just yesterday some ticking for the first time and then linux crashed and the bios didn't recognize it for about 15-20 minutes
[01:08] <rpedro> gorski: check this link > https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/audacity/+bug/51063
[01:08] <Warbo> Faked_Sympathy: There are a few boot options. The top one is Run/Install, is there a "safe mode" type one?
[01:08] <forevertheuni> sudo wpa_cli status
[01:08] <forevertheuni> Selected interface 'ath0'
[01:08] <forevertheuni> wpa_state=INACTIVE
[01:08] <Seveas> djk_, that thing is dying or dead
[01:08] <evilghost> Falcon4:  Linux mounts NTFS as RO, I believe there is an NTFS write-supported module somewhere, let me dig it up.
[01:08] <Faked_Sympathy> no, doesn't say anything like that
[01:08] <Warbo> (please don't make me run it in an emulator to check...)
[01:08] <gorski> tnx
[01:08] <Falcon4> evilghost: no, no, i don't want that...!
[01:08] <mwe> djk_: you need to get your hdd to mark the sectors as bad or you'll get problems
[01:08] <nalioth> forevertheuni: please don't paste in here
[01:08] <redcard> djk_: It's gone.
[01:08] <forevertheuni> nalioth: :/  3 lines :/
[01:08] <djk_> :(
[01:08] <Seveas> forevertheuni, pastebin your woasupplicant config file (make sure to delete passwords)
[01:08] <Falcon4> evilghost: it's a backup image of my laptop HDD before wiping it with Ubuntu and it has all my life data on it i want to restore into Linux now.
[01:09] <redcard> If it's made ticking noises, that's something physical.. and no software will undo that.
[01:09] <forevertheuni> the wpasupplicant config file is ok
[01:09] <forevertheuni> when I start wpa_supplicant manually it connects ok
[01:09] <Falcon4> evilghost: i don't need to write into it (it's an NTFS image being read from an NTFS drive anyway), i just need to read from it.
[01:09] <Warbo> Faked_Sympathy: Ah, I see there is none now :(
[01:09] <Warbo> Hang on a sec
[01:09] <Faked_Sympathy> exactly what it says "This is the Ubuntu Live CD> Press F1 for help and advanced options. For the default live system, press enter. boot:_"
[01:09] <djk_> at least i could rescue the data
[01:09] <evilghost> Falcon4:  You installed Ubuntu, prior to installation you backed up your NTFS parition, and you want to simply access data from it?
[01:09] <forevertheuni> the problem is with the startup
[01:09] <Falcon4> evilghost: it mounts OK but only Root can view its contents
[01:09] <Warbo> Faked_Sympathy: Yes, I have it in front of me now
[01:09] <redcard> djk_: You could try, yes.
[01:09] <Falcon4> evilghost: yes. :P
[01:10] <uber_mort> Hi all, I'm trying to help a friend with his fresh install.  We're trying to get the Nvidia drivers working, but for some reason when we change the Xorg.conf from nv to nvidia X just freezes.  It doesn't give us any errors or anything, just doesn't work.  Any ideas?
[01:10] <djk_> redcard: i already did, with dd_rhelp
[01:10] <Faked_Sympathy> Alright. Well, what do you suggest I do? I can't stand windows any longer, it keeps glitching up on my computer and I have to reinstall the OS like every goddamn week. I'm sick of it
[01:10] <evilghost> Falcon4:  Ok, now I'm up to speed.  One second, I've got a command you can pass at mount that enables normal users to access with write/read without the need to create an /etc/fstab entry.
[01:10] <carrincha> sdf
[01:10] <redcard> *nods*
[01:10] <DanaG|Away> I see, he backed up to a bad drive?
[01:10] <redcard> The drive, tho.. the drive is on the way out
[01:10] <DanaG|Away> Oh, check out Ultimate Boot CD.
[01:10] <DanaG|Away> There may be some useful utilities there.
[01:11] <Falcon4> evilghost: i'd prefer not to be able to write to it at all (it's being mounted from another NTFS drive and i don't want to mess it up, it's immaculate at the moment)... can it be write protected?
[01:11] <Warbo> Faked_Sympathy: Try pressing F6 and typing "rescue"
[01:11] <Ernst_> what samba username/password do i ad for windows to connect without asking me to enter a password and username?
[01:11] <evilghost> Falcon4:  In your "mount" command try "-o r,user,guest,fmask=0666,dmask=0666,gid=1000,uid=1000,sync"
[01:11] <Faked_Sympathy> "Could not find kernel image: rescue"
[01:11] <Warbo> Oops, give me a minute
[01:12] <Faked_Sympathy> Sure
[01:12] <bimberi> Ernst_: for windows to connect to a samba share?  the smbpasswd needs to be the same as the windows password
[01:12] <Seveas> meh. stupid script.
[01:12] <forevertheuni> Seveas: found the problem..I pasted your lines
[01:12] <forevertheuni> I have /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[01:12] <forevertheuni> and not in wpa_supplicant dir
[01:12] <forevertheuni> going to reboot and test
[01:12] <forevertheuni> bye
[01:12] <Falcon4> evilghost: great. now it says /media/ntfs: device is busy.
[01:13] <Warbo> Faked_Sympathy: Well I think the kernel should be "boot=casper", then the "rescue", but I am about to check
[01:13] <Ernst_> bimberi, that is? anonymus : anonymus?
[01:13] <Falcon4> evilghost: err, for umount
[01:13] <evilghost> Falcon4:  sudo umount /media/ntfs
[01:13] <Faked_Sympathy> okay, honestly, I don't even know what a kernel is.
[01:13] <evilghost> Falcon4:  Close the apps accessing it, or, umount -f /media/ntfs
[01:13] <karim> hi
[01:13] <Faked_Sympathy> I'm just a not-extremely-computer-smart guy trying to make life a little easier by not having to deal with windows's crap.
[01:13] <mwe> Ernst_: anonymous is how it's spelled I think
[01:13] <skmidry> my pppoe connection keeps dying out after around 4 hours of use
[01:14] <Falcon4> evilghost: ahh, i had sudo'd into another shell under /media/ntfs in the last one. if that makes any sense.
[01:14] <evilghost> Falcon4:  It does ;)
[01:14] <karim> I have a problem with apt, and this happens on two different systems. when I dist-upgrade some package, they are still candidate to upgrade next time I run dist-upgrade
[01:14] <Ernst_> mwe, thinkso =S
[01:14] <wasauce> how do i check the idletime on my system. I am trying to write a script that will shutdown my computer if it has been idle for X number of minutes
[01:14] <bimberi> Ernst_: idk, what's your setup?
[01:15] <evilghost> wasauce:  /usr/bin/w
[01:15] <Seveas> wasauce, check out the w command and its manpage
[01:15] <Ernst_> bimberi, my own user name / passwd
[01:15] <karim> I have a problem with apt, and this happens on two different systems. when I dist-upgrade some package, they are still candidate to upgrade next time I run dist-upgrade
[01:15] <Faked_Sympathy> ya go anythin' warbo?
[01:15] <Falcon4> evilghost: odd. now it's giving me the whole "bad partition" speech about invalid layouts and crap.
[01:15] <Warbo> Faked_Sympathy: I am messing around with boot options in an emulator and I think "boot=casper initrd=install/initrd.gz rescue" should work
[01:16] <evilghost> Falcon4:  Paste the mount command you're using if you would
[01:16] <loststar4545> how do i start the gpart gui i type sudo gpart and  just  get a txt output
[01:16] <linux_user400354> how can i use ssh-agent, so that i dont have to type in passwords each time i use ssh?
[01:16] <Faked_Sympathy> well, I dunno what ANY of that means, but I'll enter it, see if it does anything
[01:16] <Falcon4> evilghost: root@ubuntu:~# mount -t ntfs -o r,user,guest,fmask=0666,dmask=0666,gid=1000,uid=1000,sync /dev/loop/0 /media/ntfs
[01:16] <sparta> hi, I've had a horrible time trying to update to 6.6 from CD...i ended up reloading the older version
[01:16] <wasauce> evilghost: thanks..
[01:16] <Falcon4> evilghost: also, i get this
[01:16] <micahcowan> linux_user400354, ssh-agent typically is already running in your session... password less shelling requires ssh-keygen.
[01:16] <Falcon4> evilghost: [17188556.520000]  NTFS-fs error (device loop0): parse_options(): Unrecognized mount option guest.
[01:16] <Faked_Sympathy> "Could not find kernel image: boot=casper"
[01:16] <Warbo> Faked_Sympathy: You know there is also a non-graphical CD if the "desktop" CD is failing (like it is now)
[01:17] <wasauce> Seveas: thank you. Im checking it out now...
[01:17] <printk> wasauce: it's going to be hard to do what you want.... the system is almost never idle.. there is always some application or daemon running in the background
[01:17] <sparta> before i could put the new version in my repositories...i can't find the apt get in the wiki or online anyone know it?
[01:17] <Falcon4> evilghost: [17188556.520000]  NTFS-fs error (device loop0): parse_options(): Unrecognized mount option r.
[01:17] <bimberi> Ernst_: ok, the way it works here is I set up samba passwords (using smbpasswd) on the Ubuntu server, then logged in XP users can connect to the shares.  It doesn't ask for a password if the samba user password matches their XP password
[01:17] <evilghost> Falcon4:  /dev/loop/0 is your NTFS image?  Take the r,user,guest out then I guess
[01:17] <Faked_Sympathy> I know there's another CD, should I try using that one?
[01:17] <Falcon4> evilghost: it's a ton of NTFS i'm working with here, sorry, i'm still migrating from Windoze :P
[01:17] <sparta> oh and where is that (i don't have a burner...if i need to go to an internet cafe i'd like to be able to FIND it
[01:17] <sparta> sounds like i'm not the only frustrated person?
[01:18] <evilghost> Falcon4:  No problem, at least you're moving in the right direction.  I made the same move about 1.5 years ago.
[01:18] <Warbo> !alternate
[01:18] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-installation CD, with no live session. Use this if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an expert install.
[01:18] <Falcon4> evilghost: still getting the whole "you do not have permission" error when i try to use file browser... :(
[01:18] <Faked_Sympathy> what?
[01:18] <Falcon4> evilghost: but it mounted this time
[01:18] <Warbo> Faked_Sympathy: I would say so
[01:18] <evilghost> Falcon4:  1 sec, let me try something
[01:18] <sparta> i could put the last release in fine...part of the problem with the new one was the size of the virtual memory...that got me further and then i couldn;t figure out how to get it in the end
[01:18] <Faked_Sympathy> okay
[01:19] <Ernst_> bimberi, windows xp home can't store network passwords, and i think within a windows enviremont there is a default anonymous login...
[01:19] <sparta> ah that sounds really nice that alternate cd
[01:19] <evilghost> Falcon4:  Try this, assuming you're using Gnome.  From a terminal type "sudo nautilus" and this should exec Nautilus under Root enabling you to get to the NTFS data.
[01:19] <sparta> just what i'm looking for
[01:19] <micahcowan> linux_user400354, use something like ssh-keygen -t rsa, and enter an empty passphrase.
[01:19] <wasauce> printk: I think the w command might do it. this way it just checks the users active processes..but i think it will be a challange... if you have any advice id love to hear it
[01:19] <Falcon4> evilghost: yeah, figured it might, but it really sucks to be locked out of my own dang computer. whatever posessed linux users to run under a restricted account anyway? :(
[01:19] <micahcowan> linux_user400354, then you need to copy the contents of the resulting ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub into the ~/.ssh/authorized_keys of the system to which you wish to be able to login.
[01:20] <bimberi> Ernst_: yes, that i don't know much about sorry :|
[01:20] <sparta> (my old pentium 2 couldn't take the new interface)
[01:20] <Faked_Sympathy> okay wardo I switched to the other CD, now what?
[01:20] <Faked_Sympathy> warbo*, sorry >_>
[01:20] <micahcowan> linux_user400354, realize too that anyone who gets hold of read access to your ~/.ssh/id_rsa (no .pub) can log in as that user without a password.
[01:20] <micahcowan> hth
[01:20] <Ernst_> bimbereri, thanks anyway for your time, here it's time for bed, nighty night!
[01:21] <Falcon4> evilghost: yep, worked this time, lol
[01:21] <Howitzer> There are a lot of users using VLC for movie files, however: when i try to open it, i never see any movie, just hear the sound
[01:21] <linux_user400354> micahcowan: thanks for the information
[01:21] <sparta> do i just look for dapper instead of dapper drake?
[01:21] <bimberi> Ernst_: np, sorry i didn't help much.  nn :)
[01:21] <Warbo> Faked_Sympathy: The alternate CD (text based) shouldn't give any problems (since the other one seemed to be booting fine, but having problems with graphics)
[01:21] <evilghost> Falcon4:  Try this one too, -o users,owner,ro,umask=000
[01:21] <Howitzer> *open a movie-file with VLC
[01:21] <evilghost> Falcon4:  Replace the other options I gave you and unmount/remount using these options "users,owner,ro,umask=000"
[01:21] <Warbo> Howitzer: Codec issue
[01:21] <Faked_Sympathy> well when I hit enter, it does the EXACT same thing as the other CD
[01:21] <Faked_Sympathy> it's as if they're the same one
[01:21] <Falcon4> evilghost: alright, one sec
[01:21] <sparta> and the damn virtual memory...
[01:21] <Faked_Sympathy> this isn't Dapper
[01:21] <Howitzer> Warbo, everything works in MPlayer, Xine and Totem
[01:22] <Howitzer> just with a lot of annoying bugs
[01:22] <Warbo> Howitzer: VLC uses it's own codecs
[01:22] <sparta> ok where do i go then faked sympathy...and i'll leave you alone.... ;-)
[01:22] <renesis> yo
[01:22] <renesis> default install
[01:22] <Howitzer> totem goes choppy on certain wmv movies or doesn't give sound on some .mpeg's
[01:22] <Warbo> Faked_Sympathy: Oh, Dapper is the only one to have graphical install/text install
[01:22] <renesis> badger version
[01:22] <renesis> on reboot
[01:22] <Faked_Sympathy> Yeah. this is Hoary Hedgehog >_>
[01:22] <renesis> it fails to modprobe 8139too
[01:22] <dutch> what's the name of the program for the alsa mixer ?
[01:22] <linux_user400354> why doesnt windows have a grep or grep -v?
[01:23] <renesis> this is aproblem
[01:23] <renesis> it complains:
[01:23] <bnD> is there a way to install dapper WITHOUT going through the bootup of the live cd first? ala previous install cd's?
[01:23] <linux_user400354> i use these things all the time
[01:23] <Faked_Sympathy> I'm DLing the dapper CD but it's gonna take 4 friggin' hours that I don't have to spend
[01:23] <Warbo> Faked_Sympathy: I've never used Hoary, sorry (but I know there is only 1 install CD, which is text)
[01:23] <Falcon4> evilghost: aha! now it works :D
[01:23] <sethk> linux_user400354, it does.  install the cygwin package and you'll get a set of utilities that mirrors the unix utilities
[01:23] <fistandantilus> bnD: alternate cd iso uses text install
[01:23] <evilghost> Falcon4:  No problem, glad to help you out.
[01:23] <micahcowan> linux_user400354, yeah, they're handy, ain't they :-)
[01:23] <sethk> linux_user400354, including zsh, bash, grep, egrep, etc., etc.
[01:23] <Howitzer> Warbo, how do i install the needed VLC plugins then?
[01:23] <sparta> yes...i'm trying to upgrade...wiped my system and can't install from the CD--- although i have it here! I've been at this on and off all day
[01:23] <bnD> fistandantilus, awesome, thank you, do you know if it presents options that were available from previous install cd?
[01:23] <Howitzer> i don't see any using apt-cache search vlc
[01:23] <Warbo> Faked_Sympathy: You realise that if you got Hoary installed you would not be able to upgrade it to Dapper with the Dapper CD?
[01:23] <micahcowan> linux_user400354, you actually can get them for Windows. But then, I just go and get a whole Unix environment to run on my 'doze systems (cygwin rox)
[01:23] <Faked_Sympathy> but if it won't run hoary, will it even be able to run dapper?
[01:23] <sparta> do i just change where i'm talking
[01:23] <h3h_timo> has anyone installed unreal tournament??? im trying to install it, but i cant figure out how???
[01:23] <renesis> FATAL: could not load /lib/modules/2.6.13/modules.dep: no such file or dir
[01:23] <renesis> ^^^
[01:24] <renesis> default install
[01:24] <Cigarette> i have a simple/stupid question.... where does apt install programs to?
[01:24] <renesis> on reboot
[01:24] <Falcon4> evilghost: well, so far you've been the biggest help of anyone here for me, so... thanks a ton! :D
[01:24] <renesis> it fails to modprobe 8139too
[01:24] <fistandantilus> bnD: couldnt say havent used it personally, the dl links are on ubuntu's download site, there may be more information there
[01:24] <renesis> it complains:
[01:24] <renesis> FATAL: could not load /lib/modules/2.6.13/modules.dep: no such file or dir
[01:24] <Tsukino> anyone here know how to edit acpi settings in Gnome?
[01:24] <bnD> fistandantilus, thanks
[01:24] <renesis> HELP PLS
[01:24] <renesis> .
[01:24] <Warbo> Howitzer: I would guess that you need to put them in a specific folder (like MPlayer uses /usr/lib/codecs) but I don't know where they would go
[01:24] <sparta> yes...when dapper drake first came out there was an online way to upgrade...i couldn't think of anything else to do but reinstall the old version
[01:24] <Howitzer> i'll browse for a howto then :)
[01:24] <Warbo> !enter > renesis
[01:24] <evilghost> Cigarette:  apt installs applications to the filesystem in various locations as defined by the deb package.  Files are cached in /var/cache/apt/archives
[01:24] <sparta> and then upgrade online (i hoped the same way)...if there is a text based way with the CD i can do that too
[01:25] <evilghost> Falcon4:  NP, keep up the migration and dont' look back ;)
[01:25] <renesis> warbo: sue me
[01:25] <sparta> (i learnt from doing this version again anyway...)
[01:25] <Slaj> Question -- My wireless isn't working since the Dapper upgrade.  I ran ndiswrapper -l and it seems the necessary driver is installed.  What's wrong?
[01:25] <Warbo> Faked_Sympathy: Seems like a hardware issue, and hardware support is getting better all of the time. New versions of FLOSS tend to work better on older hardware (unless it only has, like, 4MB RAM, then you should get an older version)
[01:25] <renesis> default install, on reboot, it fails to modprobe 8139too, it complains: FATAL: could not load /lib/modules/2.6.13/modules.dep: no such file or dir
[01:26] <micahcowan> renesis, you've just turned off several people who might otherwise have desired to be helpful to you.
[01:26] <Warbo> 2.6.13?
[01:26] <renesis> micahcowan: politics, nice, wanna help or no?
[01:26] <Cigarette> evilghost, if i needed to know where the thunderbird run file or whatever is, so i could make a link to it on a bar... how could i find out?
[01:26] <renesis> warbo: yup
[01:26] <sparta> is there a channel number for dapper drake...might be more appropriate?
[01:26] <Warbo> I thought Breezy was 2.6.12-9 (and upgrade to -10 is available)
[01:27] <renesis> well i dont know i didnt compile the distro
[01:27] <Bob535> !resolution
[01:27] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:27] <evilghost> Cig:  From terminal you can type "whereis mozilla-thunderbird", which would return "/usr/bin/mozilla-thunderbird"
[01:27] <Cigarette> oh thanks
[01:27] <Tutter> hm
[01:27] <sparta> (i'm sorry to be bothersome but my computer has been down for a week now on this)
[01:27] <Warbo> renesis: If you didn't compile the kernel then you must be looking in the wrong place. The only reason I know of why a 2.6.13 kernel would be installed is if you did it yourself (and you obviously haven't since it is not found)
[01:27] <renesis> warbo: uname -a says im running a 2.6.13
[01:28] <ameer> Hey guys, I'm trying to get Ubuntu Dapper to work with my Voodoo3 video card... it boots fine, but as soon as X starts, booting stops.  It doesn't even login - it must detect an error and completely halt
[01:28] <Tutter> any of you use the installnewfirfox.sh from sourceforge ?
[01:28] <Warbo> !info linux-image-2.6.13-386
[01:28] <ubotu> Package linux-image-2.6.13-386 does not exist in dapper
[01:28] <renesis> warbo: theres other kernels in that /boot directory
[01:28] <Warbo> Ah, only Dapper
[01:28] <ameer> Should I just install the voodoo packages in Synaptic, or is there something more involved that needs done?
[01:28] <renesis> warbo: the installer just picked on?
[01:28] <Warbo> renesis: Use whichever vmlinuz/initrd.img work
[01:29] <h3h_timo> !sh
[01:29] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[01:29] <h3h_timo> !.sh
[01:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about .sh - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:29] <renesis> is all about aterm (rxvt)
[01:29] <Warbo> h3h_timo: To run a sh file do "sh filename.sh"
[01:29] <h3h_timo> Warbo, thanks ill try it
[01:29] <renesis> warbo: is it possible installer detected another kernel and loaded it into the grub.conf?
[01:30] <Warbo> h3h_timo: If it is an installer you may need to let it access the system, so "sudo sh filename.sh" would do that
[01:30] <renesis> or possibly the introduced 2.6.13 into the breezy image
[01:30] <Warbo> renesis: Maybe the Breezy CDs have been updated since I last used them (mind you, that was a preview release)
[01:30] <renesis> yeah i just grabbed this one
[01:30] <GeleGrodan> "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" givs alot of program and things, if i just want GUI what should i download?
[01:30] <renesis> dapper resets the box, default kernel
[01:31] <h3h_timo> Warbo, im installing unreal tournament 2004, and it uses a sh script... do you know any other mainstream games that are able to be played in linux??
[01:31] <ameer> Anyone have experience getting a VooDoo card working in Ubuntu?
[01:31] <renesis> and its 200MHz so i aint so happy about compiing a kernel on it
[01:31] <fistandantilus> h3h_timo: all the quakes, dooms
[01:31] <renesis> think its an acpi probe issue
[01:31] <Warbo> renesis: Well I seem to be out of my depth now
[01:31] <h3h_timo> aight thats sweet thank guys
[01:31] <fistandantilus> linux is definitely not short on FPS games
[01:32] <vgvxfm1> neone know whats best to use for ftp server software
[01:32] <renesis> id runs better on linux drivers
[01:32] <renesis> my box at least
[01:32] <evilghost> h3h_timo:  Ensure you copy the Sh script to your local machine first.  UT2003, Quake4, Doom3, Doom3-ROE, FreeSpace, and many more can be played under Linux but each requires a Linux installer.
[01:32] <Warbo> Doomsday is good for Doom 1 and 2
[01:32] <mwe> no it's not. there are 10+ FPS games for linux 
[01:32] <Slaj> Can anyone assist with troubleshooting my wireless connection?
[01:33] <fistandantilus> im all about enemy territory myself
[01:33] <evilghost> Slaj:  I can, what type of wireless controller do you have?  Post the output of "lspci"
[01:33] <linux_user400354> my webcam must be impossible in linux
[01:33] <uber_mort> Hi all, I'm trying to help a friend with his fresh install.  We're trying to get the Nvidia drivers working, but for some reason when we change the Xorg.conf from nv to nvidia X just freezes.  It doesn't give us any errors or anything, just doesn't work.  Any ideas?
[01:33] <fistandantilus> now if we just had some good RPGs that would run natively other than neverwinter nights ..
[01:33] <vgvxfm1> ftp help neone??
[01:33] <renesis> uber_mort: agpgart settings
[01:33] <evilghost> Uber_mort:  Check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for any EE or WW lines.
[01:33] <fistandantilus> i use emulators for my rpgs though ;)
[01:33] <sparta> is there a way to install the graphical cd with text instead?
[01:33] <BalNdaR> how to edit text files in console?
[01:33] <h3h_timo> evilghost, sounds good, only game i wish i had so i dont have to have windows is oblivion
[01:33] <fistandantilus> BalNdaR: try nano filename
[01:34] <uber_mort> renesis: what do you mean by agpart settings?
[01:34] <renesis> uber_mort: theres a way thri nvidia module options to set it to nvidia agp, kernel, or either
[01:34] <Slaj> evilghost:  I'm booted into Windows right now.  I'll have to log out and back in again.  Back in a few?
[01:34] <renesis> uber_mort: its a kernel thing for agp
[01:34] <evilghost> h3h_timo:  I believe Oblivion works well with Cedga (or WineX-CSV), check http://www.transgaming.org
[01:34] <evilghost> Slaj:  Works for me.
[01:34] <Warbo> !best > vgvxfm1
[01:34] <uber_mort> renesis: Ok, I'm not sure what to do to set that up...  what should I do?
[01:34] <h3h_timo> thanks evilghost.. ill check it out.. dont you have to pay for cedga tho??
[01:34] <renesis> uber_mort: nvidia can work with its own or the kernel one, but its gotta be set
[01:34] <mwe> most games don't work or only half work with cedega
[01:34] <vgvxfm1> whats the best app to use for an ftp server
[01:35] <DanaG|Away> what about gid=users on the NTFS?
[01:35] <evilghost> h3h_timo:  You do, it's like $5 AFAIK, however, you can always compile WineX-CVS from source.
[01:35] <Warbo> !best > vgvxfm1
[01:35] <vgvxfm1> ty
[01:35] <vgvxfm1> warbo
[01:35] <fistandantilus> you'd be surprised .. there's probably 30+ games that work fine in cedega
[01:35] <renesis> uber_mort: nvidia documentation, xorg.conf, kernel menuconfig, the agpgart settings
[01:35] <h3h_timo> evilghost, is wineX-CVX hard to use?
[01:35] <redcard> Not to mention almost all the poker games.
[01:35] <mwe> the games I wanna play don't work with wine or cedega
[01:35] <Warbo> Cedega breaks copy protection, so they don't put that bit in the source
[01:36] <fistandantilus> i use older games though i dont have a new fangled machine that runs the new games anyway
[01:36] <evilghost> h3h_timo:  Nah, there are some howto's on how to do it.  If you wanted to go for easy Cedega Point2Play would likely be better but it does cost.  It's either $5 or $15, I can't remember.
[01:36] <uber_mort> renesis: Well its a PCI express card, so what should I do?
[01:36] <fistandantilus> its $15
[01:36] <DanaG|Away> tdfx on Voodoo3?
[01:36] <Warbo> Cedega=$5 per month (or 3), for a minimum 3 months
[01:36] <fistandantilus> they dropped it then
[01:36] <fistandantilus> it was 15 not that long ago at all
[01:37] <Warbo> That's from what I remember
[01:37] <h3h_timo> evilghost, welp, im cheap, so im goin the WineX way
[01:37] <micahcowan> fistandantilus, $5/per month, minimum 3 mos, is $15.
[01:37] <Warbo> So $15 total (or 9)
[01:37] <fistandantilus> ah okay
[01:37] <evilghost> h3h_timo:  No problem there
[01:37] <fistandantilus> so your paying 15 bucks regardless ;)
[01:37] <DanaG|Away> Oh, I tried to run CVSCedega.
[01:37] <linux_user400354> do people get Cedega without paying the same way people get windows xp without paying?
[01:37] <stoooooook> erUSUL, gnomefreak, Warbo, thanks for your help guys!
[01:37] <h3h_timo> evilghost, do you use either of the two?
[01:37] <stoooooook> Got it working, just needed to fix up the repositories
[01:37] <uber_mort> Attn:  Cedega is FREE via CVS tree!
[01:38] <uber_mort> Just an fyi ;)
[01:38] <fistandantilus> we know, welcome to yesterday in the conversation ;)
[01:38] <uber_mort> Well, people are talking about paying
[01:38] <evilghost> h3h_timo:  I did use Cedega for a while for FarCry and some of the other games, then I did a little soul-searching and decided to either not support or play any game that does not have native Linux support.  iD, Atari/Epic, etc all run fine.
[01:38] <Howitzer> linux_user400354, no they don't, the best thing about Cedega is it's Point2Play function
[01:38] <evilghost> h3h_timo:  Mine was more of a personal/philosophical decision.
[01:38] <Warbo> But that doesn't include copy protection hacking does it? (that is why Cedega is pay-for, sicne they need a license not to get arrested)
[01:38] <fistandantilus> uber_mort: for point2play
[01:38] <mwe> cedega doesn't run what I wanna play
[01:38] <uber_mort> The new version of Wine is supposed to be good enough to run World of Warcraft without any further modifications
[01:39] <scast> Where can I find a "decent" source.list ?
[01:39] <uber_mort> Not sure if it'll work with much else
[01:39] <linux_user400354> scast, are you using debian?
[01:39] <fistandantilus> !easysource
[01:39] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:39] <mwe> hitman4. FEAR, civ4. doesn't work or only half work
[01:39] <redcard> Well, Civ4 is a dog of a game anyway
[01:39] <linux_user400354> nevermind, i thought i was in the ##linux chat
[01:39] <mwe> it's great game
[01:39] <h3h_timo> evilghost, welp, id like to get oblivion running, as ive found no other rpgs out there that are better
[01:40] <Warbo> scast: If you want something that isn't in Ubuntu then add it when you find it. It is NOT a good idea to install stuff in Linux "because it's free", since you will end up with GBs of useless stuff
[01:40] <redcard> It's a crap game, and most of the civ fans thinnk that.
[01:40] <fistandantilus> im on a run of psx rpg's with epsxe currently
[01:40] <mwe> I don't care I like it
[01:40] <evilghost> h3h_timo:  I do believe Cedega will run it, so you may want to give it a try.
[01:40] <enigma> I'd say Morrowind than Oblivion, but that's asking for a flamewar.
[01:40] <linux_user400354> i am going to try to compile spca5xx module for logitech webcam from source code. has anyone attempted this?
[01:40] <Phantom784> hi.  i was trying to play a dvd in kaffiene, and it worked, but the video was moving at about one rame per second.  i'm assuming this is because kaffeine isn't getting direct access to the video card.  does anyone know how to fix this?\
[01:40] <fistandantilus> FP RPG = yuck
[01:40] <DanaG|Away> I wonder, can Steam ban you for using Cedega?
[01:41] <enigma> Ask them on their message board? =D
[01:41] <uber_mort> Hi all, I'm trying to help a friend with his fresh install.  We're trying to get the Nvidia drivers working, but for some reason when we change the Xorg.conf from nv to nvidia X just freezes.  It doesn't give us any errors or anything, just doesn't work.  He is using a PCI express 6800gs.  Any ideas?
[01:41] <evilghost> Phantom784:  Please post the output, from terminal, of the command "glxinfo|more"
[01:41] <h3h_timo> evilghost, i wish i had the money too lol
[01:41] <mwe> DanaG|Away: of course not
[01:41] <mwe> DanaG|Away: they can't even detect it
[01:41] <evilghost> uber_mort:  Post the output of /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:41] <redcard> DanaG|Away: Cedega does violate their TOS, I believe.
[01:41] <Warbo> uber_mort: I always use module-assistant to compile the driver. Never failed for me
[01:41] <redcard> But they won't do it.
[01:41] <wasauce> Seveas: hey so I checked out the man pages of w and tried to use it but if I have a user that is logged in using gui nothing is reported for the idle time. rather is says something like xgdmx any ideas how i can get around this
[01:41] <DanaG> What about CVSCedega?
[01:41] <fistandantilus> why would they ban you for using it?
[01:42] <mwe> redcard: does it say it must be run natively in windows?
[01:42] <evilghost> uber_mort:  Did you install nvidia-glx with the 8756 drivers?  You're not running the legacy drivers are you?
[01:42] <Dawgy> Hey all, mind if I ask a dumb question? :X
[01:42] <redcard> mwe: It says something like "must be run on a legal version of Microsoft Windows"
[01:42] <niall> !flash
[01:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:42] <Warbo> Dawgy: Go ahead
[01:42] <uber_mort> evilghost: They're not the legacy drivers
[01:42] <Dawgy> Thanks, here's my problem.
[01:42] <evilghost> uber_mort:  8762 I mean.
[01:42] <mwe> redcard: so yes basically
[01:42] <bnD> anyone know how to disable a device and cut off power to it (through root, not unplugging :P) ?
[01:42] <DanaG> With CVSCedega, I get "ts_xlib.c:1203: error: syntax error before * token
[01:42] <DanaG> "
[01:42] <redcard> *nods*
[01:42] <uber_mort> evilghost: I'm not sure which version I'm using, we just used apt-get install nvidia-glx
[01:42] <DanaG> A whole bunch of those.
[01:42] <linux_user400354> !cvs
[01:42] <ubotu> cvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/
[01:42] <Dawgy> I've got a PC that I want to put a Ubuntu server on. Problem is, the video card in it died, it has no onboard, and I have no card that will go into it.
[01:42] <DanaG> It does not compile.
[01:42] <Phantom784> evilghost: anything specific you want me to look for?
[01:43] <Dawgy> Is it possible to be installed via SSH somehow?
[01:43] <Dawgy> Or, some other way?
[01:43] <aujordanh> anyone know a better ipod extraction app than gtkpod, it won't copy all of my files
[01:43] <uber_mort> evilghost: and the pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19902
[01:43] <Warbo> Dawgy: You could put the drive into another machine
[01:43] <evilghost> Phantom874:  The Direct Rendering line
[01:43] <wasauce> Seveas: I want to set it up so that when i happen to walk away from my box it turns off by iteself if it has been idle for 20 minutes.
[01:43] <Phantom784> evilghost: it says no
[01:43] <Dawgy> Wow, I'm a moron. I never thought of that.
[01:43] <mwe> redcard: I guess many games say that somewhere if you read closely
[01:43] <Warbo> :)
[01:43] <fistandantilus> aujordanh: pick one, amarok, banshee, rhythmbox, etc
[01:43] <jpatota> Dawgy: chances are that ubuntu comes with openssh-server installed
[01:43] <redcard> mwe: *nods*
[01:43] <fistandantilus> aujordanh: though gtkpod works fine for me
[01:44] <evilghost> Phantom784:  Do you know what graphics chipset you have?  What does lspci say?
[01:44] <Dawgy> I'll try that. :-P
[01:44] <jpatota> Dawgy: unless its the server instal
[01:44] <Phantom784> it is an ati rage 128
[01:44] <redcard> So the short answer is, yeah, Steam can ban you for using it because it's a violation of their TOS.
[01:44] <niall> hey guys which way is the most simple way to install flash player
[01:44] <redcard> Now will they?  Likely, no.
[01:44] <Dawgy> Ah, yeah. I'm downloading the server install.
[01:44] <jpatota> Dawgy: in that case you need to type from memory
[01:44] <ack> anyone have any luck getting an alps touchpad working? mine just does not work.  Ive been playing with my xorg.conf file forever
[01:44] <mwe> redcard: I've never heard about it at least
[01:44] <Warbo> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[01:44] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.63.3ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)
[01:44] <aujordanh> fistandantilus, rythymbox doesn't move files from ipod to hdd does it?
[01:44] <Warbo> (didn't work for me though, I needed to add a Debian repo)
[01:44] <jpatota> Dawgy: do you know how to get directly to terminal from boot
[01:44] <Phantom784> evilghost: should i run |scpi
[01:44] <mwe> redcard: they don't care if you buy the game I think
[01:44] <fistandantilus> aujordanh: couldnt say i dont use it, i just know it has ipod capabilities
[01:45] <evilghost> Pahntom784:  Just "lspci"
[01:45] <jpatota> Dawgy: and not go though the gnome login process
[01:45] <aujordanh> okay, yeah i am putting all of my ipod files on my hdd
[01:45] <evilghost> uber_mort:  Can you share your xorg.conf?
[01:45] <Dawgy> Bah, I screwed up my language settings, need to reboot. XD
[01:45] <redcard> Just.. Steam uses a lot of anti-cheat code.. and they'll download it behind the scenes.  Don't be surprised if one day you go to play a game in wine and it doesn't work.
[01:45] <Dawgy> brb
[01:45] <uber_mort> sure, one moment, going to paste it
[01:45] <Phantom784> oh, thats ls, not a pipe
[01:45] <DanaG> They WILL ban you for uncertified D3D drivers, though, right?
[01:45] <shadeofgrey> hey everybody
[01:46] <evilghost> Phantom784:  Are you using mesa, vesa, or the ati (or even fglrx)?
[01:46] <Phantom784> evilghost: ati rage 128
[01:46] <fistandantilus> steam is trash anyway imo, huge bloated frontend, boy CS was so much nicer without it imo
[01:46] <shadeofgrey> does anybidy know of ways to get around the bug in kmail concerning wordwrapping
[01:46] <wasauce> anyone have ideas for how to determine the system idle time? I am trying to write a shutdown script that checks to see if a user has been idle more than x minutes and then shuts the computer down
[01:46] <mwe> DanaG: do you think so?
[01:46] <DanaG> I have no issues with Steam as long as I have internet.
[01:46] <Slaj_R> evilghost: Okay, how shall I post lspci?
[01:46] <DanaG> I only have ussues at internet-less LAN parties.
[01:47] <evilghost> Slaj_R:  Just tell me the chipset/manfacturer for your wireless card.  I'm guessing it's a Broadcom BCM43xx chipset?
[01:47] <uber_mort> evilghost: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19903  We had to change the driver setting back to nv because nvidia wasn't working
[01:47] <redcard> Course all my friends are now playing that nexiuz game.
[01:47] <mwe> DanaG: I installed some non official, not certified ati drivers in windows and didn't get banned
[01:47] <DanaG> What do I install for "You need gtk+-2.0, glib-2.0 and libglade-2.0."
[01:47] <DanaG> ?
[01:47] <redcard> Those that aren't doing Freeciv :)
[01:47] <DanaG> Packages in Synaptic, I mean.
[01:47] <Slaj_R> evilghost: bcm4306, yes.
[01:47] <jpatota> Slaj_R: pastebin is usually the best place to dump such stuff
[01:47] <fistandantilus> i forgot my password, and had changed email by then so even though i had bought it they told me i needed a new key, i told them where they could shove there steam
[01:47] <mwe> DanaG: libglib and libgtk2 and libglade I think. search for those
[01:48] <Phantom784> evilghost: the line says 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controler: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 RF/SG AGP
[01:48] <evilghost> uber_mort:  Try commending out the load dri line per the Nvidia readme, you shouldn't need it.
[01:49] <uber_mort> will do
[01:49] <mwe> Phantom784: you know fglrx wont work with that?
[01:49] <Phantom784> mwe: so there's nothing I can do?
[01:49] <mwe> Phantom784: install the open source driver I think
[01:49] <evilghost> Slaj_R:  Same card as in my laptop.  You have two choices, you can blacklist the kernel's bcm43xx driver in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and use ndiswrapper for the driver or you can install the fwcutter stuff.  Check http://www.ubuntuforums.org for a plethora of info.  I opted for the ndiswrapper option and have no issues.
[01:49] <Phantom784> mwe: where can I get that?
[01:50] <mwe> Phantom784: I'm not into the details but I think it's called radeon in xorg.conf
[01:50] <evilghost> Phantom784:  In /etc/X11/xorg.conf in the section "Device" what is the Driver you are using?
[01:50] <DanaG> Oh, I've had "renderaccel" "true" freeze X.
[01:50] <renesis> warbo: apperently, the installer scanned the directory for ALL kernel images, using the same initrd for all all them in grub, and didnt set its installed kernel default. someone should maybe adjust that, you think?
[01:50] <uber_mort> evilghost: no such luck.  It just shows the console ubuntu screen (like when ubuntu is loading)
[01:50] <jpatota> Dawgy: how we doing?
[01:50] <Aberrant22> Hey folks, got a question about Samba on my lappy, sharing between my vmware xp (not public, only my vmware interfaces)  I have to restart the samba service for it to show up properly...any ideas?
[01:50] <renesis> laters, thanks for the help bye
[01:50] <Dawgy> Pretty good, sorry about the abrubt reboot.
[01:50] <Dawgy> I was playing with my language settings, and had set my PC to Japanese.
[01:51] <DanaG> NVIDIA for me.
[01:51] <jpatota> Dawgy: nice job
[01:51] <Phantom784> evilghost: vesa
[01:51] <Dawgy> The font in IRC was impossible to read. :(
[01:51] <evilghost> uber_mort:  I am seeing rejected sessions but I don't know why.  You could always post to http://www.nvnews.net the Linux section, this is the offical forum for Nvidia support and both Lonnie and Zander review/post there (NVidia Linux Team employees)
[01:51] <Dawgy> Well, it WAS English, just a bad font. XD
[01:51] <yurganu> quit
[01:51] <maleficus> Hrm I can't seem to get surround sound working in XMMS
[01:51] <h8red> Hello everyone, just installed ubuntu and all seems well, except I can't get ubuntu to mount my hard drive that is fat32, any reasons for this?
[01:51] <karim> do you have a /dev/rtc device ?
[01:51] <micahcowan> Dawgy, you shouldn't have needed to actually reboot: just log out, change the language for your session, then log back in.
[01:51] <uber_mort> Hmmm, so this isn't going to be easily solved you think?
[01:51] <evilghost> Phantom784:  THat is the root issue.  You could try changing it to "ati" and let us know.  You'll need to "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" though since only root can change it.
[01:52] <Dawgy> Micah, I'm on Windows at the moment, if you were thinking I'm on Ubuntu.
[01:52] <Dawgy> About to install that soon.
[01:52] <micahcowan> oh. :-)
[01:52] <maleficus> I tried the Under "Audio Device" enter "plug:surround51"  suggestion on help.ubuntu but it didn't work for me
[01:52] <DanaG> My favorite thing to sudo is bash.
[01:52] <mwe> Phantom784: I think you need xserver-xorg-driver-fbdev
[01:52] <DanaG> sudo bash <approximately equals> su.
[01:52] <redcard> Why not sudo -i?
[01:52] <uber_mort> evilghost:  I am reading the log file right now, and it says (WW) Warning, couldn't open module nvidia
[01:53] <micahcowan> Dawgy, incidentally, if you like playing with stuff in Japanese, Ubuntu has very good Japanese support. :-)
[01:53] <owen_> does anyone know a good place to get high-resolution wallpapers for ubuntu?
[01:53] <Awesome-o2000> how do I configure the video input for my screensaver?
[01:53] <micahcowan> Awesome-o2000, /input/? do you mean splash-image-type things?
[01:53] <mwe> owen_: devianart.com
[01:53] <Dawgy> Micah, I sure hope it's better than the one in Windows. I hate the language bar in XP.
[01:54] <jpatota> Dawgy: wait a minute...your going to *install* ubuntu on a computer with a bad video card?
[01:54] <h8red> error: device /dev/hdb1 is not removable,  error: could not execute pmount, what does this mean?
[01:54] <Awesome-o2000> micahcowan, specifically I think its xscreensaver-grab-video, let me try and figure it out
[01:54] <micahcowan> jpatota, yes, he is 
[01:54] <evilghost> uber_mort:  Thanks, I may have missed this.  Can you see what /usr/lib/libGL.so is symlinked to?  When you "lsmod|grep -i nvidia" do you get anything?  What happens when you try to modprobe nvidia?
[01:54] <Dawgy> Jpa, Ubuntu server on a PC without a video card.
[01:54] <Coreh> Hey, I'm trying to install ubuntu.... but the partition editor can't recognize my disk or my partitions. I even tryied the console partition edition tools, but they can't recognize my HD. what can i do?
[01:54] <Phantom784> evilghost: do i need to restart x now?
[01:54] <jpatota> Dawgy: hahaha
[01:54] <micahcowan> Awesome-o2000, if you're using xscreensaver, then it's an option in your .xscreensaver
[01:54] <Dawgy> I think I'll do what was suggest, which is install on another PC, and manage over SSH or something. I dunno.
[01:54] <jpatota> Dawgy: good luck to you sir
[01:54] <evilghost> Phantom784:  Yes, you can do this by either logging out or by hitting CTRL-ALT-Backspace.
[01:55] <Dawgy> It's not gonna be anything too big.
[01:55] <Awesome-o2000> xscreensaver-getimage-video
[01:55] <owen_> that link doesnt look correct mwe
[01:55] <uber_mort> evilghost: No such file or directory /usr/lib/libGL.so
[01:55] <Slaj_R> evilghost:  Okay, I'm going to try the procedure outlined at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174&highlight=blacklist+broadcom+driver
[01:55] <mwe> owen_: http://www.deviantart.com/
[01:55] <Phantom784> evilghost: okay, i'll see if it works
[01:55] <mwe> owen_: it has loads of coll stuff
[01:55] <Dawgy> I need just a simple PCI card, but Wal Mart wants to charge like $50 for a GeForce MX series. >_>
[01:56] <evilghost> uber_mort:  sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx --reinstall
[01:56] <uber_mort> evilghost: ok
[01:56] <DanaG> Lemme dig up Newegg.
[01:56] <alex_> hi
[01:56] <alex_> :D
[01:56] <owen_> by the way, how do you do that, put someones name automatically so as you redirect your message towards them on here?
[01:56] <alex_> uhh unix
[01:56] <h3h_timo> ive been having troubles with my soundcard just randomly not working
[01:56] <h3h_timo> does anyone know how to restart, say the alsa drivers?
[01:57] <evilghost> uber_mort:  You should have a /usr/lib/nvidia with /usr/lib/libGL.so symlinked to /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 which is symlinked to /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.0.8762
[01:57] <uber_mort> I'll check
[01:57] <evilghost> uber_mort:  scratch the /usr/lib/nvidia part, sorry abou that
[01:57] <uber_mort> now its loading on loading the desktop ... hrm
[01:58] <uber_mort> errr hanging
[01:58] <uber_mort> oo, there it goes
[01:58] <eternaljoy> I use Openoffice 2.0.2 but it doesnt do spell checking, even though I see a spell icon!  Any ideas?
[01:58] <evilghost> uber_mort:  I'll send you my paypal address ;P
[01:58] <AAA>  h3h_timo /etc/init.d/alsa restart
[01:58] <uber_mort> haha
[01:58] <DanaG> Hmm, 28 bucks: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102153
[01:58] <uber_mort> well
[01:58] <uber_mort> its running reaaaaaaaaaalllllllly slowly
[01:58] <DanaG> Kinda expensive for the old crap it is.
[01:58] <maleficus> Hrm actually my surround sound won't work on any application
[01:58] <uber_mort> so I'm not sure its working yet ;)
[01:58] <maleficus> its either front, or rear, but never both
[01:59] <evilghost> uber_mort:  Check out how things are linked, do a "ls -la /usr/lib/libGL.*"
[01:59] <Coreh> the gnome partition editor can't recognize my disk... what can i do?
[01:59] <Dawgy> Ah, cheaper than the other card though Dana.
[01:59] <evilghost> uber_mort:  Also see what "glxinfo|more" says in reference to direct rendering/etc.
[01:59] <Dawgy> Thanks.
[01:59] <uber_mort> evilghost: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 -> libGL.so.0.8762
[01:59] <lkasjf> heya, I am trying to setup my wireless inet connection but I can't seem to get my WPA key working when I use iwconfig.... I have been trying to use "iwconfig eth1 essid wrieless_3 key s:haha" what's wrong?
[02:00] <evilghost> uber_mort:  Life looks good with that area.  Would you like me to share my xorg.conf, there are some tasty gems of performance in there.
[02:00] <lkasjf> (my WPA key is 'haha')
[02:00] <uber_mort> evilghost: rebooting before I can do the glxinfo|more
[02:00] <uber_mort> I surely wouldn't mind :)
[02:00] <DanaG> It should be good enough for a server.Or, a Radon 7000
[02:00] <DanaG> 			 					$42.99 					($22.99 after $20.00 Mail-In Rebate) 				 				
[02:00] <threeonefour> i have a question
[02:00] <Aberrant22> lkasjf: Did you install wpasupplicant?
[02:01] <DanaG> I wonder what shipping is....
[02:01] <redcard> threeonefour: Go ahead and ask
[02:01] <lkasjf> ah no
[02:01] <threeonefour> I am having problems with accessing my floppy drive
[02:01] <lkasjf> yes sorry
[02:01] <lkasjf> it is there
[02:01] <AAA> threeonefour  is the green light always on?
[02:01] <threeonefour> no the ribbion is placed correctly
[02:01] <Aberrant22> lkasjf: Hrm, not sure then...can you connect to open wireless points?
[02:02] <mwe> threeonefour: sudo mount /dev/fd0 /mnt might work
[02:02] <threeonefour> it's software not hardware
[02:02] <evilghost> uber_mort:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19904
[02:02] <AAA> threeonefour  mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/foo
[02:02] <lkasjf> hrmm
[02:02] <val25> can I install selinux on Ubuntu ???
[02:02] <lkasjf> no I can't
[02:02] <Aberrant22> lkasjf: I had wireless issues (broadcom chipset sucks) and had to go through hoops to get it to work
[02:02] <uber_mort> evilghost:  Well, we just got up and running, I'm going to get that file, any chance you happen to know how to make dual monitors work? :)
[02:02] <lkasjf> hrmm
[02:02] <threeonefour> i go into terminal for that right
[02:02] <h3h_timo> AAA, i do this sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart and there is still no sound
[02:02] <lkasjf> well
[02:02] <mwe> threeonefour: you may have to load the floppy kernel module though
[02:02] <lkasjf> I jsut found out about wpasupplicant
[02:02] <AAA> selinux-utils - SELinux utility programs
[02:03] <BHSPitMonkey> networkmanager++
[02:03] <AAA> h3h_timo  alsamixer (turn up the volume)
[02:03] <Aberrant22> lkasjf: Are you using gnome?  I installed the networkmanager and that helped
[02:03] <val25> AAA just need install this ????
[02:03] <AAA> threeonefour  yeah
[02:03] <h3h_timo> AAA i did
[02:03] <evilghost> uber_mort:  I do, but my laptop gets pissy with me so I've never been 100% successful.  There is a readme about in in Appendix G I believe on Nvidia's website in the readme for the driver.
[02:03] <mwe> h3h_timo: did you unmute as well?
[02:03] <Aberrant22> lkasjf: If you have a broadcom chipset... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear
[02:03] <h3h_timo> AAA, i know alot of people dont check this, but its already been checked
[02:03] <evilghost> uber_mort:  Metamodes, Twinview, etc.  That kind of stuff.
[02:03] <h3h_timo> mwe, yes
[02:03] <AAA> val25  I don't know, I just apt-cache search selinux
[02:03] <Aberrant22> lkasjf: that worked for me
[02:03] <mwe> h3h_timo: turning up the volume wont work if you don't
[02:03] <lkasjf> Aberrant22 what did?
[02:03] <h3h_timo> mwe, it will just randomly stopped working
[02:04] <Section12> What about twinview?
[02:04] <val25> ok
[02:04] <mwe> h3h_timo: master and pcm
[02:04] <mwe> h3h_timo: I see
[02:04] <h3h_timo> mwe i did all
[02:04] <uber_mort> evilghost: Alrighty, thanks :)  we're gonna tweak this a bit and i'll let you know how it goes.  Thanks a ton for all of your help
[02:04] <DanaG> YTO restart sound, you may need to modprobe -r and then modprobe and then alsa-utils reset (number)
[02:04] <DanaG> then unmute.
[02:04] <threeonefour> give me that command agian
[02:04] <AAA> h3h_timo  hrm. what about the volume on your laptop? or lsmod|grep snd
[02:04] <lkasjf> I need WPA support :/
[02:04] <evilghost> uber_mort:  No problem, glad to help
[02:04] <linux_user400354> sweet, i installed ubuntu-calendar package and i have a naked girl ubuntu background picture that changes once a month
[02:04] <Kyral_Laptop> mmmm FOOTBALL!!!
[02:04] <Aberrant22> lkasjf: That tutorial worked...though I had to remove my interfaces (except lo) from /etc/network/interfaces
[02:04] <eternaljoy> I use Openoffice 2.0.2 but it doesnt do spell checking, even though I see a spell icon!  Any ideas?
[02:04] <GeleGrodan> "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" givs alot of program and things, if i just want GUI what should i download?
[02:04] <lkasjf> well
[02:04] <lkasjf> I can connect without a WPA key
[02:04] <mwe> AAA: would alsamixer show the controls if the kernel module is not loaded?
[02:04] <h3h_timo> AAA, umm.. you want me to put this in pastebin?
[02:04] <AAA> threeonefour  sudo mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/foo (where /mnt/foo exists)
[02:04] <lkasjf> but when I have a WPA key I can't connect
[02:05] <AAA> mwe  I think so
[02:05] <AAA> mwe  but I ain't positive
[02:05] <linux_user400354> GeleGrodan, x
[02:05] <evilghost> GeleGrodan:  gnome-desktop maybe?
[02:05] <Aberrant22> lkasjf: mmm, sorry, just know the basics....I use network-manager to connect to everything
[02:05] <AAA> h3h_timo  sure
[02:05] <h3h_timo> AAA, alright
[02:05] <threeonefour> mount: can't find /dev/fd0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[02:06] <mwe> threeonefour: what did you type?
[02:06] <h3h_timo> AAA, what should i be looking for?
[02:06] <jason> how do I get apollon to show up in the gnome "Applications" menu?
[02:06] <AAA> threeonefour  mkdir ~/floppy && mount /dev/fd0 ~/floppy
[02:06] <threeonefour> sudo mount /dev/fd0
[02:06] <mwe> threeonefour: I told you sudo mount /dev/fd0 /mnt
[02:06] <tuxtux> bye
[02:06] <AAA> h3h_timo  tail -n 33 /var/log/syslog > foo and paste foo
[02:06] <selfharm> what software should i use for virus scan?
[02:06] <mwe> threeonefour: you missed half of it
[02:07] <ro> is there someone who knoe how to delete files on an rca mp3 player .. its detected i can put file but cant delete any
[02:07] <Aberrant22> selfharm: I've heard good things about clamav I think...I haven't really researched much though
[02:07] <AAA> threeonefour  mkdir ~/floppy && mount /dev/fd0 ~/floppy
[02:07] <selfharm> aberrant22, thanks.
[02:07] <GeleGrodan> evilghost> it's download alot of other things to.
[02:07] <h3h_timo> AAA, pastebin is being so slow
[02:07] <selfharm> what software could i use for defrag and disk optimization?
[02:07] <AAA> selfharm  fsck
[02:08] <mwe> AAA: can a user mount /dev/fd0 ?
[02:08] <evilghost> GeleGrodan:  I guess I'm a little confused.  You'll need some deb files to fulfill the dependencies.
[02:08] <selfharm> AAA, thanks mate
[02:08] <BHSPitMonkey> I didn't know fsck defragged.
[02:08] <AAA> mwe  I believe so if the /mnt/point is rx
[02:08] <threeonefour> mwe that worked   but will i have to do that all the time
[02:08] <fistandantilus> it doesnt defrag, defrag is basically nill in linux
[02:08] <mwe> BHSPitMonkey: it doesn't. ext3 doesn't suffer much from fragmentation though
[02:09] <mwe> threeonefour: well no not if we fix fstab
[02:09] <AAA> mc does some defrag stuff I think (could be just high)
[02:09] <BHSPitMonkey> right.
[02:09] <selfharm> mwe, i need to maintain a fat32 drive, not ext3
[02:09] <evilghost> ext doesn't fragment in Linux like NTFS/Fat, there are still non-contigious files but not fragmentation that is an impact to performance linux Fat/NTFS filesystems.
[02:09] <threeonefour> mwe how do i do that
[02:09] <mwe> selfharm: oh
[02:09] <AAA> fsck.vfat
[02:09] <uber_mort> evilghost:  We're golden, we have dual monitors working and everything, now just a bit of fixing on the resolutions and we'll be premo
[02:09] <mwe> threeonefour: well first make a proper mount point. sudo umount /mnt; sudo mkdir /mnt/floppy
[02:09] <uber_mort> evilghost: thanks agian for the help
[02:10] <h3h_timo> AAA, pastebin isnt responding when i try to post this
[02:10] <AAA> h3h_timo  you can /query AAA
[02:10] <Aberrant22> Anyone have ideas for Samba...it doesn't start properly when I reboot and I have to restart the service (but works fine after restart)
[02:10] <evilghost> uber_mort:  Amazing dude, rock on.  Glad to help.  Don't forget about "nvidia-settings" and adding "nvidia-settings -l" to X Session startup.
[02:10] <jason> is there any way to add Apollon to the Gnome "Applications" menu?
[02:11] <h8red> am I not able to mount a hard drive even though it is fat32?
[02:11] <fistandantilus> ala carte
[02:11] <mwe> threeonefour: did you do that?
[02:11] <fistandantilus> if your in dapper, ala carte menu editor under accessories
[02:11] <mwe> Aberrant22: you have to look at the log files
[02:12] <threeonefour> sudo: unmount: command not found
[02:12] <mwe> threeonefour: type what I said instead
[02:12] <mwe> threeonefour: umount. not unmount
[02:12] <redondos> Some friend is having a problem installing any Dapper release, including ubuntu x86 and x86-64 and kubuntu x86-64. The problem seems to be in the installer, it freezes when it reaches the stage in which it configures APT.
[02:12] <recon0> Does anybody know of a GUI for Festival?
[02:12] <redondos> Do you have any ideas as to what may be causing this?
[02:12] <linux_user400354> i installed the ubuntu-calendar package and now i have a ubuntu background picture with a naked girl that changes once a month
[02:12] <AAA> threeonefour  umount
[02:12] <evilghost> linux_user40034:  Give me the name of that package ;P
[02:13] <Phantom784> evilghost: apparently, my computer doesn't like the ati driver, and it won't start x.  i booted into knoppix to fix the problem, which is what i'm in now
[02:13] <redondos> Clicking the cancel buton works fine, he can cancel the installation. But it froze for over 40 minutes in that stage.
[02:13] <evilghost> Phantom784:  Odd...  If it ever dies you can logon to the local console and type "sudo apt-get install nano" install Nano, then "nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and change the line back to Vesa.
[02:13] <Aberrant22> threeonefour: When I ran grep samba /var/log/*  I noticed that it said that /etc/samba/smbusers didn't exist.
[02:13] <threeonefour> ok did that
[02:14] <threeonefour> now waht
[02:14] <linux_user400354> evilghost: sudo apt-get install -y --force-yes ubuntu-calendar*
[02:14] <evilghost> Phantom784:  When it failed to load did /var/log/Xorg.0.log show any issues?
[02:14] <Phantom784> evilghost: i'll check that now
[02:14] <mwe> threeonefour: ls /mnt. does it show floppy there?
[02:14] <digitalpenguin> hey all
[02:14] <threeonefour> yes
[02:14] <mwe> threeonefour: good
[02:14] <val25> how can I run selinux utils ????
[02:14] <linux_user400354> evilghost: is that working for ya?
[02:15] <Morvock_Emrys> Hey guys, I was wondering what you would suggest for partitioning a dual boot HD for a first time user.
[02:15] <owen_> how do you refresh your desktop? or something similiar so it displays the image you set the background as right a way?
[02:15] <jason> how come apollon doesn't show up in a la carte menu editor either?
[02:15] <mwe> threeonefour: sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bak && sudo nano /etc/fstab and put '/dev/fd0        /mnt/floppy    vfat    noauto,users    0 0' on the last line
[02:15] <jason> it's definitely installed
[02:15] <Phantom784> evilghost: i see some client rejected at local host stuff
[02:15] <val25> Anyone, how can I run selinux utils ????
[02:15] <evilghost> linux_user400354:  I was being a little sarcastic, sorry :)
[02:15] <mwe> threeonefour: I suppose it's a fat floppy (dos/windows)
[02:15] <threeonefour> ya
[02:16] <evilghost> Phantom784:  any EE lines?
[02:16] <Aberrant22> Morvock_Emrys: If you have a good enough system, I'd suggest running vmware to run your xp.  I'm much happier that way (and I use Ubuntu much more now)
[02:16] <mwe> threeonefour: did you do the fstab stuff?
[02:16] <jason> is there any reason Apollon isn't in my Applications menu and doesn't show up in a la carte ?
[02:16] <threeonefour> mwe i don't understand that fstab stuff
[02:16] <Phantom784> evilghost: yea, xf860OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom
[02:16] <mwe> threeonefour: sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bak && sudo nano /etc/fstab and put '/dev/fd0        /mnt/floppy    vfat    noauto,users    0 0' on the last line
[02:17] <recon0> jason: some apps just don't put themselves in a menu. You probably have to do it manually in alacarte, if you know the console command.
[02:17] <threeonefour> type all of that
[02:17] <AAA> jason  look in the debian menu
[02:17] <mwe> threeonefour: yes first sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bak to create a backup
[02:17] <jason> AAA the debian menu's empty :(
[02:17] <Aberrant22> Morvock_Emrys: Otherwise just google dual boot windows ubuntu.  There's a lot info there and tutorials
[02:17] <scottevil> hello ya'll, been lurking for a while, got a question
[02:17] <Morvock_Emrys> Aberrant22: I already have XP-64 installed and I didn't know if I should do a /home partition or no. Also how much room I should give Ubuntu or XP. I don't want to undercut them, and since I have 300 worth a space, I should have plenty to spare anyways
[02:17] <AAA> jason  what window manager? gnome?
[02:17] <scottevil> anybody set up to boot ubuntu from a RAID drive?
[02:17] <val25> Anyone, how can I run selinux utils ????
[02:17] <jason> AAA yes Gnome
[02:18] <mwe> val25: are you running an selinux kernel?
[02:18] <micahcowan> (gnome's not a window manager...)
[02:18] <val25> Im running ubuntu
[02:18] <linux_user400354> what the fuck???? i installed all of the ubuntu calendar packages and now i have background pictures of the entire ubuntu development team naked on my background. the girls were fine, but now i have naked guys and thats not cool.
[02:18] <jason> under a la carte the debian menu is empty
[02:18] <mwe> val25: then no
[02:18] <AAA> micahcowan  fair enough
[02:18] <val25> how can I run ???
[02:18] <mwe> val25: selinux is a bitch anyway
[02:18] <digitalpenguin> anyone able to tell me why after i just re-installed ubuntu that i am still getting errors about : clvm
[02:18] <digitalpenguin>  redhat-cluster-suite
[02:18] <digitalpenguin>  system-config-cluster
[02:18] <recon0> linux_user400354: my god, don't tell me you're being serious.
[02:18] <jason> is there a cli fix?
[02:18] <mwe> val25: you need to read about selinux. sorry
[02:18] <val25> ok
[02:18] <mwe> val25: it's not for the faint of heart
[02:18] <micahcowan> linux_user400354, the package said "semi-nude models", not specifying the gender. Whadya expect? 
[02:19] <AAA> linux_user400354  stfu
[02:19] <threeonefour> mwe problem
[02:19] <mwe> threeonefour: yes?
[02:19] <linux_user400354> AAA: fuck you
[02:19] <threeonefour> mwe threeonefour: yes first sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bak to create a backup
[02:19] <mwe> !language
[02:19] <micahcowan> !language
[02:19] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:19] <mwe> threeonefour: did you do that?
[02:19] <Aberrant22> Morvock_Emrys: It depends on what you use Windows for.  Ubuntu probably only needs 10 gig of space max for the non-media stuff.  You can create a fat32 partition to be able to view the files for both
[02:19] <threeonefour> :~$ sudo cp /ect/fstab /ect/fstab.bak
[02:19] <Ron> hi, I get automatically logout after a while of inactivity, and all my runnung programs are lost, is there a way to disable this?
[02:19] <threeonefour> cp: cannot stat `/ect/fstab': No such file or directory
[02:19] <linux_user400354> recon0: dead serious
[02:19] <digitalpenguin> anyone able to tell me why after i just re-installed ubuntu that i am still getting errors about : clvm,redhat-cluster-suite,and system-config-cluster
[02:20] <mwe> threeonefour: not ect
[02:20] <threeonefour> sorry i am used to contrl c
[02:20] <jason> is there any way to add apollon to the menu besides a la carte?
[02:20] <mwe> threeonefour: copy paste what I tell you
[02:20] <threeonefour> ione sec
[02:20] <mwe> threeonefour: highlight the commands I type with the mouse and paste with the middle button
[02:20] <recon0> linux_user400354: then tell me the package name.
[02:20] <threeonefour> done
[02:20] <Aberrant22> Morvock_Emrys:  Otherwise, it's all pretty much up to you.  As you said, you have plenty of space to spare...so just depends on personal taste
[02:21] <threeonefour> sorry i did that first part
[02:21] <micahcowan> recon0, ubuntu-calendar; he's mentioned it like five times already...
[02:21] <AAA> recon0  he is just a troll
[02:21] <threeonefour> i'm new on linux
[02:21] <mwe> threeonefour: you made a backup? ls /etc/fstab.bak. is it there?
[02:21] <Morvock_Emrys> Aberrant22: So do you think making a /home partition would be a good idea, or just a hassle for a first time user?
[02:21] <linux_user400354> recon0: sudo apt-get install -y --force-yes ubuntu-calendar*
[02:21] <evilghost> Phantom784:  Sorry, back, bathroom break.  The WACOM stuff is normal, any other issues/events?
[02:21] <Slasher> not to interupt you guys but, when I try to boot off the install disk with my sata drive plugged in it pannics with "VFS not syncing"
[02:21] <AAA> Morvock_Emrys  hassle, no reason to really for first time
[02:22] <threeonefour> yes
[02:22] <Slasher> Morvock_Emrys: If you're using it at home for your self don't bother
[02:22] <linux_user400354> recon0: you might have to enable universe and multiverse repos. i am not sure which repo it comes from.
[02:22] <threeonefour> next
[02:22] <Morvock_Emrys> ok, cool. Thanks guys
[02:22] <micahcowan> AAA, I haven't seen him say anything trollish, other than in response to your rudeness...
[02:22] <hou5ton> good evenign
[02:22] <Aberrant22> Morvock_Emrys: Yeah, what AAA said, heh.
[02:22] <Aberrant22> or not
[02:22] <mwe> threeonefour: did you make the backup ?
[02:22] <Aberrant22> oof, people still use dialup?
[02:22] <threeonefour> yes
[02:22] <mwe> threeonefour: ls /etc/fstab.bak it's present?
[02:23] <Slasher> and i hate them all
[02:23] <threeonefour> mwe i checked that using the file browser
[02:23] <Aberrant22> Okay, going to try to reboot and see if just touching the missing file will work
[02:23] <Aberrant22> brb
[02:23] <Slasher> is there a way to get around the kernel panic?
[02:23] <mwe> threeonefour: good. now sudo nano /etc/fstab. put "/dev/fd0        /mnt/msfloppy    vfat    noauto,users    0 0" on the last line and save. no quotes though
[02:25] <linux_user400354> recon0: did that work?
[02:25] <scottevil> asking again...anybody set up ubuntu and XP to dual boot from a hardware RAID setup?
[02:25] <threeonefour> mwe like this in terminal     sudo nano /etc/fstab /dev/fd0        /mnt/msfloppy    vfat    noauto,users    0 0
[02:25] <recon0> hey, I'm 13. I'm not seriously going to try it.
[02:25] <linux_user400354> recon0: okay wait untill you are 18 lol
[02:26] <Slasher> what ever it is to it now before you get tried as an adult
[02:26] <owen_> i keep changing my desktop background but nothing happens, am i suppost to do something else to make it display?
[02:26] <DanaG> Hey, if I want to install a new kernel (2.6.17), what do I do?
[02:26] <threeonefour> mwe is that right
[02:26] <DanaG> I need Yonah frequency table support.
[02:26] <CyberkillerLapto> Hi, i was wondering if someone could possibly help me, whenever i try to load the live CD to go install i get this error [137.340363]  buffer I/O error on device dm-0, logical block 3152098
[02:26] <linux_user400354> owen_: are you sure you have it installed?
[02:26] <CyberkillerLapto> it repeats over and over
[02:27] <DanaG> What does Ubuntu do to make it so you need their kernel?
[02:27] <linux_user400354> owen_: install all of the packages. there is one for each month.
[02:27] <scottevil> danag: I don't think there is anything in ubuntu that forces u to use their kernel
[02:27] <scottevil> I just built one from the sources and didnt see anything restrictive
[02:27] <scottevil> only deal is if you want to package up a new kernel
[02:28] <CyberkillerLapto> Anyone? =(
[02:28] <owen_> whats the name of those wallpaper packages for each month?
[02:28] <navreet> hi, my fonts are _a little_ blurry... anyone have any ideas? for example = is not as clear as it is under windows
[02:28] <threeonefour> mwe?
[02:28] <scottevil> mwe left 3on4
[02:28] <Slasher> CyberkillerLapto: they seem to be ignorring live cd questions
[02:28] <Slasher> :(
[02:28] <CyberkillerLapto> =(
[02:28] <DanaG> Is there anything in Ubuntu that makes their kernel any _better_ than others?
[02:28] <linux_user400354> owen_: working now?
[02:28] <CyberkillerLapto> but the live CD IS the instlaler CD
[02:28] <fistandantilus> navreet: running gnome?
[02:28] <CyberkillerLapto> D=
[02:28] <navreet> fistandantilus, yea
[02:28] <Slasher> yeah, it's 1 disk
[02:28] <owen_> the problem was, i was setting a background directly from firefox
[02:29] <CyberkillerLapto> and you can only ge tto instlal through live
[02:29] <scottevil> dana: probably just that they have tested it a little
[02:29] <scottevil> but just a guess
[02:29] <CyberkillerLapto> get to intall*
[02:29] <threeonefour> ok then can someone help me then
[02:29] <CyberkillerLapto> install*
[02:29] <owen_> what are the names of those wallpaper packages linux_usver?
[02:29] <fistandantilus> navreet: system, prefs, fonts, there are options to try for different font looks
[02:29] <navreet> fistandantilus, tried them all
[02:29] <owen_> user*
[02:29] <linux_user400354> owen_: ubuntu-calendar*
[02:29] <fistandantilus> navreet: try a different font? other than that no idea
[02:29] <navreet> the Monochrome's = looks clear, but then everything else looks terrible
[02:29] <Section12> DanaG: The fact that it is built with *most* configurations
[02:29] <Slasher> CyberkillerLapto: I'm getting a kernel panis about vfs not syncing from the live cd, can't install myself
[02:29] <Phantom784> evilghost: no, nothing else
[02:30] <fistandantilus> CyberkillerLapto: bad drive, or bad disc, try booting ide=nodma if its the drive
[02:30] <linux_user400354> whats the best irc client for ubuntu?
[02:30] <fistandantilus> !best
[02:30] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[02:30] <CyberkillerLapto> just add ide=nodma at the end of the boot line?
[02:30] <threeonefour> I NEED HELP
[02:30] <DanaG> Oh, but what would I do about restricted-modules on a new kernel?
[02:30] <fistandantilus> CyberkillerLapto: yup
[02:30] <CyberkillerLapto> k thanks
[02:30] <fistandantilus> DanaG: rebuild them
[02:30] <h3h_timo> AAA, sound works now
[02:30] <threeonefour> aaa can u help
[02:30] <wheels3572> How do you apt-get multiple files at once?
[02:30] <evilghost> Phantom784:  Np, sorry to halfway help and run but my daughter just woke up from her nap and I need to help my wife watch her.  Good luck with the deal, may want to check http://www.ubuntuforums.org for people with the same issue as you.
[02:31] <Slasher> CyberkillerLapto: i can try it but it's being cause by a sata drive
[02:31] <fistandantilus> wheels3572: sudo apt-get fileone filetwo filethree
[02:31] <Phantom784> evilghost: thanks for your help
[02:31] <Slasher> caused*
[02:31] <owen_> how do you direct messages to a specific user on here? like linux_user400354: blah blah
[02:31] <Aberrant22> Grrr...did not work.  Still can't connect ot my samba server
[02:31] <fistandantilus> owen_: first you have to be registered with freenode, second, /msg username
[02:31] <Aberrant22> owen_:  I just thought you typed in the name at the beginning, heh
[02:32] <Slasher> brb, i'll get on here from another computer so i can reboot
[02:32] <linux_user400354> has anyone found a good theme for ubuntu thats not in the ubuntu-themes package?
[02:32] <Slasher> kde :D
[02:32] <linux_user400354> owen_: /msg linux_user400354
[02:32] <bnD> im looking to download vmware to run another linux distro, in the wiki, it shows 'vmware workstation' however on the site i only see vmware player or vmware server, which am i looking for?
[02:32] <Section12> owen_: it is called name completion
[02:32] <fistandantilus> linux_user400354: try gnome-look.org or art.gnome.org, tons of themes than can be dragged right into the theme manager to install
[02:32] <CyberkillerLapto> I added it and im stil getting the same error
[02:32] <CyberkillerLapto> =(
[02:32] <CyberkillerLapto> still*
[02:32] <CyberkillerLapto> this si the third CD i've tried
[02:32] <CyberkillerLapto> is*
[02:32] <threeonefour> can someone help me
[02:33] <Waterbou> Is there a way for me to get my microsoft wifi card to work with ubuntu?
[02:33] <fistandantilus> CyberkillerLapto: how fast are you burning it? have you used the 'check cd' option on the grub menu?
[02:33] <AAA> threeonefour  with your floppy? didn't you get that?
[02:33] <CyberkillerLapto> 4x and i havnt used grub yet...
[02:33] <threeonefour> ya but he was helping me then he left
[02:33] <micahcowan> threeonefour, I only know you were working on /etc/fstab...
[02:33] <CyberkillerLapto> OH
[02:33] <CyberkillerLapto> wait
[02:33] <CyberkillerLapto> lol
[02:33] <CyberkillerLapto> grub menu
[02:33] <CyberkillerLapto> duh
[02:33] <owen_> alright i installed the ubuntu-calendar - now how do i use it?
[02:33] <CyberkillerLapto> uh
[02:33] <wheels3572> fistandantilus, is there a comma separating them?
[02:33] <Aberrant22> bnD: I run VMware server since it's free.  There's a good tutorial on the forums on how to install
[02:33] <fistandantilus> wheels3572: no
[02:33] <CyberkillerLapto> i havnt yet for this CD
[02:33] <CyberkillerLapto> ill do that now
[02:33] <wheels3572> ok
[02:33] <threeonefour> here is the last thing he told me
[02:33] <threeonefour> sudo nano /etc/fstab /dev/fd0        /mnt/msfloppy    vfat    noauto,users    0 0
[02:34] <AAA> threeonefour  if you added all the crap in fstab just sudo mount -a (with the floppy in the drive)
[02:34] <Aberrant22> Waterbou:  Do you know what chipset it is?
[02:34] <bnD> Aberrant22, do you know the difference between that and vmware player?
[02:34] <Waterbou> aberrant22, I could find out...  What would I do then?
[02:34] <digitalpenguin> anyone able to tell me why after i just re-installed ubuntu that i am still getting errors about : clvm,redhat-cluster-suite,and system-config-cluster
[02:34] <micahcowan> threeonefour, the stuff starting from /mnt/msfloppy is what he wanted you to type into /etc/fstab, and then save.
[02:35] <AAA> threeonefour  can you pastebin your /etc/fstab plz
[02:35] <Slasher_> ok, gonna try the live cd again
[02:35] <Aberrant22> bnD: vmware player can't set up vm images.  though you can create them manually (you'd have to google that) or download the trial version of vmware workstation and then use vmplayer after
[02:35] <threeonefour>   GNU nano 1.3.8             File: /etc/fstab
[02:35] <threeonefour> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[02:35] <threeonefour> #
[02:35] <threeonefour> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[02:35] <threeonefour> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[02:35] <Aberrant22> Waterbou: I used the tutorial http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear
[02:35] <threeonefour> /dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[02:35] <threeonefour> /dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0       0
[02:35] <threeonefour> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[02:35] <threeonefour>             [ line 8/8 (100%), col 1/1 (100%), char 398/398 (100%) ] 
[02:35] <AAA> threeonefour  !pastebin
[02:35] <threeonefour> ^G Get Help  ^O WriteOut  ^R Read File ^Y Prev Page ^K Cut Text  ^C Cur Pos
[02:35] <threeonefour> ^X Close     ^J Justify   ^W Where Is  ^V Next Page ^U UnCut Txt ^T To Spell
[02:35] <Slasher> aha
[02:35] <fistandantilus> ugh
[02:35] <bnD> Aberrant22, thanks :)
[02:36] <AAA> !pastebin
[02:36] <Waterbou> aberrant22, thanks =] 
[02:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:36] <Slasher> that's just funny
[02:36] <micahcowan> threeonefour, no... he did not want you to actually paste your screen into IRC... that's a good way to get kicked...
[02:36] <Aberrant22> Waterbou: Tho you have to delete the interfaces from the /etc/network/interfaces file.  All but the lo
[02:37] <Kookookapo1> Hi m im trying to dual boot with dapper already on my hd. I have installed win xp successfully but i cannot choose to boot either win xp or ubuntu. I have changed the menu.lst to boot windows but i need to replace the windows booter to GRUB. does anyone know how?
[02:37] <ompaul> threeonefour, I take it you have finished now - please visit http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and bookmark it for future reference
[02:37] <AAA> threeonefour  you didn't edit that file at all dude
[02:37] <AAA> threeonefour  hold
[02:37] <digitalpenguin> what is the command to install kubuntu as well
[02:37] <fistandantilus> digitalpenguin: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:37] <Aberrant22> Kookookapol: Did you install winxp after ubuntu?  XP screws with grub, usually better to install linux after winxp
[02:37] <rogenar> is there a simple way to reformat?
[02:37] <linux_user400354> owen_: install a few more packages besides ubuntu-calendar. i believe you have to install some packages for different months.
[02:37] <threeonefour> ok AAA
[02:38] <digitalpenguin> thank you i forgot the -desktop part i was getting confuse
[02:38] <linux_user400354> owen_: then change your desktop background by right clicking your desktop
[02:38] <Waterbou> Aberrant22, I might be back then...
[02:38] <Slasher> haha, what the christ.... the boot just spammmed "CDROM open failed"
[02:38] <micahcowan> threeonefour, as AAA said, you still need to add the line about "/mnt/msfloppy    vfat    noauto,users    0 0"
[02:38] <Aberrant22> Waterbou: Okay, hope it works.  Not sure i'll be here...but we'll see
[02:38] <nocarrier> rogenar: just reformat?
[02:38] <rogenar> nocarrier, yes
[02:38] <Kookookapo1> Aberrant22: ya i installed xp after ubuntu. I realized that gaming is alot easier in xp and i didnt want to wipe my precious dapper
[02:39] <nocarrier> rogenar: what fs?
[02:39] <rogenar> ext3
[02:39] <Kookookapo1> All i need now is to know how to replace the XP loader with GRUB
[02:39] <threeonefour> how do i do that
[02:39] <fistandantilus> !grub
[02:39] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:39] <Aberrant22> Kookookapol: Ah. Well, not sure what to do for you...
[02:39] <fistandantilus> Kookookapo1: see ubotu's link
[02:39] <nocarrier> rogenar: mkfs.ext3 <drive>
[02:39] <SurfnKid> tleds is cool
[02:39] <AAA> threeonefour  http://paste.lisp.org/display/23754
[02:39] <SurfnKid> got it tweaked really cool
[02:39] <rogenar> thanks
[02:39] <Aberrant22> rofl, that is awesome
[02:39] <CyberkillerLapto> So when i use ide=nodma i get farther, but i get the same error in the end, i chekced the cd and it was fine
[02:40] <Aberrant22> What else can the ubotu do?
[02:40] <AAA> threeonefour  the top is just an example, the bottom is what you need at the bottom of yours
[02:40] <CyberkillerLapto> it's when it starts the EVMS
[02:40] <micahcowan> Aberrant22, lots... but don't play with him on list: you can /msg him for that.
[02:40] <micahcowan> !ubotu
[02:40] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[02:40] <fistandantilus> Aberrant22: he's magic, knows alot, but dont mess with him too much in chan or the ops will dislike you ;)
[02:40] <Kookookapo1> thanks
[02:40] <linux_user400354> !tell lunitik about ubuntu
[02:40] <blabit> hello all
[02:41] <blabit> can I ask a NOOB question?
[02:41] <threeonefour> aaa how do i save it into the file
[02:41] <AAA> blabit  that is what we are here for :)
[02:41] <fistandantilus> blabit: just ask
[02:41] <linux_user400354> !ubuntu
[02:41] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[02:41] <Aberrant22> fistandantilus: Heh.  I won't.  ops are friends, not food
[02:41] <linux_user400354> !ubuntu > lunitik
[02:41] <Slasher> this is a new one... it keeps saying "cdrom: open failed durring boot" then crashes into ash
[02:41] <AAA> threeonefour  with nano I _think_ it is <ctrl>k
[02:41] <micahcowan> threeonefour, you can use nano (that's what "sudo nano /etc/fstab" meant)
[02:41] <Aberrant22> blabit: Feel free, I guess that's why we're here...Heck, I may even be able to answer it
[02:41] <CyberkillerLapto> can someone please help me?
[02:42] <Waterbou> !gnome
[02:42] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[02:42] <micahcowan> threeonefour, just add the extra line in, then Ctrl-O Ctrl-X, I believe.
[02:42] <blabit> Ok, I just installed edubuntu for the first time (never used linux before) and am wondering why I can only see one of my hard drives?
[02:42] <nocarrier> CyberkillerLapto: whats up?
[02:42] <AAA> blabit  ide hard drive? how big?
[02:42] <CyberkillerLapto> when i try to load up teh lvie CD
[02:42] <blabit> ide 20 gig
[02:42] <fistandantilus> CyberkillerLapto: the cd drive or the cd is bad, im telling you
[02:42] <CyberkillerLapto> i get a buffer I/O error on device DM-0
[02:42] <AAA> blabit  and POST sees it?
[02:42] <CyberkillerLapto> oh
[02:43] <Aberrant22> blabit: Is it formatted in NTFS?
[02:43] <blabit> yes, it was working fine using XP, then formated and installed this and nothing
[02:43] <Slasher> nocarrier, is it my turn now :P
[02:43] <AAA> blabit  sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb (in a terminal)
[02:43] <CyberkillerLapto> the cd drive is bad eh... i havnt had any otehr problems with it before
[02:43] <fistandantilus> buffer i/o errors are almost always the drive, especially if you've checked the CD
[02:43] <nocarrier> Slasher: heh... yea
[02:43] <blabit> AAA not sure what that means, can i message you?
[02:43] <CyberkillerLapto> i see...
[02:43] <AAA> blabit  no. does your computer see the drive before the OS starts?
[02:43] <yozBuntu> did something odd happen with Xgl + compiz + cgwd this weekend
[02:43] <CyberkillerLapto> is there a way around that? im guessing no right
[02:43] <blabit> yes, it does see the drive before ubuntu starts
[02:43] <fistandantilus> #ubuntu-xgl would know
[02:43] <threeonefour> didn't work
[02:43] <Section12> yozBuntu: Like?
[02:44] <yozBuntu> fist, thanks
[02:44] <Slasher> gimme one sec, i'll reboot my machine again without the quiet param
[02:44] <AAA> blabit  sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb (in a terminal)
[02:44] <blabit> AAA, sudo?
[02:44] <FurryNemesis> yozBuntu:  cgw won't update for me either but so far it's not a problem for me
[02:44] <fistandantilus> CyberkillerLapto: if the ide=nodma doesnt work i dont know, the drive IS ide right?
[02:44] <Aberrant22> !sudo
[02:44] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:44] <CyberkillerLapto> uhhh, i don't know?
[02:44] <visik7> !main
[02:44] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:44] <micahcowan> blabit, he means type that whole line, "sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb" in a terminal, and then type your password in.
[02:44] <threeonefour> aaa  Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume
[02:44] <yozBuntu> i got cgwd 0.4 installed with cgwd-themes
[02:44] <AAA> blabit  yes btw you can man <any command you type> and get lots of info about the command It is the 'manual'
[02:44] <nocarrier> !expect
[02:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about expect - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:44] <nocarrier> hehe
[02:44] <nocarrier> !nothing
[02:44] <yozBuntu> but i don't know how to 'activate' any of the themes in the 'cgwd themer' that shows up in preferences
[02:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about nothing - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:45] <CyberkillerLapto> are we talking about hardrive or CD drive?
[02:45] <nocarrier> lol
[02:45] <fistandantilus> CyberkillerLapto: cd drive
[02:45] <yozBuntu> i don't know what i'm missing here
[02:45] <CyberkillerLapto> oh, eah i don't know
[02:45] <CyberkillerLapto> how do i tell?
[02:45] <DanaG> If I install a new kernel, will it make things like modules-<version>, or just "modules"?
[02:45] <CyberkillerLapto> yeah*
[02:45] <blabit> AAA, how do i open a terminal (sorry, its all new to me)
[02:45] <FurryNemesis> yozBuntu:  what about compiz themer?
[02:45] <AAA> threeonefour  change vfat to fat12 in your fstab
[02:45] <yozBuntu> furry, yea that'd be nice, where do i find it?
[02:45] <micahcowan> blabit, Applications > Accessories > Terminal
[02:45] <fistandantilus> CyberkillerLapto: as  far as i can tell the install hasnt even gotten near the harddrive yet, its erroring long before that
[02:45] <threeonefour> ok
[02:45] <yozBuntu> like i tried to install gcompiz-themer
[02:45] <yozBuntu> and it says that cgwd replaces it
[02:46] <AAA> blabit  it is in menu under system
[02:46] <micahcowan> blabit, then take the results and paste it using paste.ubuntu-nl.com, and give us the link.
[02:46] <CyberkillerLapto> hmm
[02:46] <DanaG> cgwd includes its own gcompiz-themer.
[02:46] <nocarrier> DanaG: it will make a new directory in /lib/modules
[02:46] <fistandantilus> yozBuntu: ive heard it does, theme switching is integrated into cgwd now
[02:46] <yozBuntu> right so
[02:46] <Blinker> blabit: it might be handy for you to right click the terminal icon, and "add to launcher panel"
[02:46] <yozBuntu> how do i actually use any of the themes in cgwd ?
[02:46] <FurryNemesis> yozBuntu:  should be in system>preferences - you might have to muck around with Alacarte menu editor to see it, but if you can't even after doing that then you've installed a different way to me.
[02:46] <CyberkillerLapto> So is there a way around it, or a way to tell what my drive is and a differnt comamnd line i can use?
[02:46] <yozBuntu> like i see them all there
[02:46] <Slasher> nocarrier, what it does is the live cd will start booting and then it starts spamming "[####.####]  cdrom: open failed"
[02:46] <UbuntuJulez> hi there! :-) Ubuntu Rulez, just so you all know LOL
[02:46] <UbuntuJulez> btw, trying to figure out how to change my mouse pointer
[02:46] <Slasher> and finaly it drops back to ash
[02:46] <fistandantilus> CyberkillerLapto: ide=nodma is the big one, if your drive wont read the cd i dont really know from there
[02:46] <yozBuntu> i'm in 'cgwd themer 0.4' right now, and i see all the themes listed
[02:47] <yozBuntu> so what do i do to make any of them active?
[02:47] <DanaG> will it just be /lib/modules or will it be /lib/modules-2.6.17-7?
[02:47] <CyberkillerLapto> hmm
[02:47] <fistandantilus> yozBuntu: tried right click?
[02:47] <yozBuntu> how does this tie into system -> preferences -> theme?
[02:47] <yozBuntu> fist, yea
[02:47] <CyberkillerLapto> is there any workaround, such as going straight to install, or can you only get to install through live?
[02:47] <fistandantilus> hmm i was talking to someone earlier about it and i forgot how he said he was changing themes, i dont run xgl/compiz myself
[02:47] <blabit> Ok, pasted that line in a terminal, and entered my password, nothing happened...am I doing something wrong?
[02:47] <DanaG> You can do "oem install"
[02:48] <threeonefour> AAA still didn't work
[02:48] <CyberkillerLapto> oen install?
[02:48] <nocarrier> Slasher: does it eventually panic?
[02:48] <CyberkillerLapto> er
[02:48] <CyberkillerLapto> oem*
[02:48] <Aberrant22> is there a way to clear the logs or just search for errors from my last reboot?  I'm trying to diagnose a problem with samba not starting properly
[02:48] <DanaG> It's on the LiveDVD menu, at least.
[02:48] <DanaG> I haven't tried the CD.
[02:48] <AAA> blabit  change the hdb to hdd
[02:48] <fistandantilus> CyberkillerLapto: there is an 'alternate' cd iso, but you may not get any farther with that error
[02:48] <CyberkillerLapto> hmm
[02:48] <AAA> threeonefour  but you can mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy ?
[02:48] <Slasher> nocarrier, it used but it doesn't look like it does anymore
[02:48] <micahcowan> AAA, threeonefour, I think he needs to leave it vfat, but add the option fat=12 (if applicable). But vfat should already detect if that's necessary...
[02:48] <blabit> AAA, still nothing.
[02:48] <nocarrier> Slasher: have you tried another drive
[02:49] <nocarrier> ?
[02:49] <AAA> blabit  dmesg|grep hd
[02:49] <gershon> cgwd themer 4.0 ?
[02:49] <micahcowan> threeonefour, can you paste your current ftab again, but this time read the following:
[02:49] <micahcowan> !paste
[02:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:49] <CyberkillerLapto> i wish i didnt have to gothrough live for installing
[02:49] <Slasher> nocarrier, this is from the live cd
[02:49] <fistandantilus> CyberkillerLapto: alternate cd skips live, its a text install
[02:49] <AAA> nocarrier  do you see anything other than hda and hdc
[02:49] <UbuntuJulez> !mouse poitners
[02:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about mouse poitners - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:49] <UbuntuJulez> !mouse pointers
[02:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about mouse pointers - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:49] <CyberkillerLapto> Does it matter that i burned it to a DVD? does it have to be a CD?
[02:49] <AAA> nocarrier  it is IDE?
[02:49] <blabit> AAA, got a bunch of code what do I do with that?
[02:50] <UbuntuJulez> !cursors
[02:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about cursors - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:50] <micahcowan> UbuntuJulez, I don't think you're gonna find it there (and you should never investigate the bot on-list)
[02:50] <threeonefour> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19906
[02:50] <fistandantilus> CyberkillerLapto: its a cd iso .. i dont see how that could be good but i cant say for sure thats the problem
[02:50] <AAA> blabit  look for stuff like device hda seagate blah
[02:50] <nocarrier> AAA: what are you talking about?
[02:50] <micahcowan> Ubugtu, it's fairly esoteric knowledge, I believe... :(
[02:50] <CyberkillerLapto> ah.. well ill try reburning it with a CD
[02:50] <AAA> nocarrier  finding his lost drive
[02:50] <nocarrier> Slasher: i know... have you tried using another drive to boot from...
[02:50] <|thunder> can mythTV be installed and usable with apt in dapper ? Ive got a hauppage dual tuner card.
[02:50] <micahcowan> UbuntuJulez, ^^ (not Ubugtu, sheesh!)
[02:51] <UbuntuJulez> well i have some pointers I have downloaded but the gnome theme manager doesn't seem to let you control it and the mouse pointer applet doesn't let you drop files into it
[02:51] <[Ex0r] > |thunder- yes it can
[02:51] <threeonefour> AAA did u get that
[02:51] <micahcowan> UbuntuJulez, where they specifically for linux/gnome?
[02:51] <UbuntuJulez> yes
[02:51] <UbuntuJulez> from gnome-art.org
[02:51] <|thunder> soop, I can just apt-get install mythtv and it'll work ?
[02:51] <fistandantilus> UbuntuJulez: ive found if they are in the right format, untar and move the cursor dir you have to ~/.icons, restart cursor manager and it should be there
[02:51] <|thunder> er4z0r, *so, I can **
[02:51] <blabit> AAA Hda and hdC are both ATA drives.....is that what you mean?
[02:51] <|thunder> fuck
[02:51] <|thunder> darned auto complete
[02:52] <UbuntuJulez> icons?
[02:52] <Slasher> nocarrier, I'll try to download the proper live dvd, rightnot it's the cd burned as a dvd, I only have 1 dvd drive and i lack blank cd's
[02:52] <UbuntuJulez> really?
[02:52] <[Ex0r] > |thunder- you can, but it's the old mythtv version. You should stop by #mythtv-users to get an unofficial universe link to use for apt.
[02:52] <nocarrier> Slasher: yea... try that first...
[02:52] <fistandantilus> UbuntuJulez: yup, they all go in the same place .. if you open the dir through the cursor manager you'll find thats where they go anyway
[02:52] <Phantom784> hi.  i changed the "driver" line under "device" in xorg.conf in order to try to get direct hardware access on my ati rage 128 to work, but ubuntu won't open x any more.  i changed the line back, but the problem won't go away.
[02:52] <|thunder> thanks [Ex0r] 
[02:52] <[Ex0r] > sure thing
[02:52] <[Ex0r] > take care
[02:52] <AAA> threeonefour  and you created /mnt/floppy ? ls -ld /mnt/floppy
[02:52] <blabit> AAA, did that make sense?
[02:52] <Slasher> nocarrier, is there dedicated hosting for the live dvd or is it all torrents?
[02:53] <threeonefour> micahcowan, AAA,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19906
[02:53] <AAA> blabit  yes, and the other drive is the slave on the first channel?
[02:53] <ucordes> anybody checked out the new blur function in latest xgl-compiz release?
[02:53] <blabit> AAA, yes I think so.
[02:53] <AAA> blabit  if so, you should have an /dev/hdb
[02:53] <blabit> what is that?
[02:53] <threeonefour> aaa what
[02:53] <AAA> blabit  you got nothing in return when you did sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb
[02:53] <micahcowan> AAA, fat12 isn't a valid filesystem type: you have to provide it as an option.
[02:54] <blabit> let me try again.
[02:54] <blabit> AAA, nothing
[02:54] <blabit> The second drive is the master on IDE 2 I believe
[02:54] <AAA> micahcowan  yeah, threeonefour change it to vfat and did you make /mnt/floppy ??
[02:54] <nocarrier> Slasher: yes, download from http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/
[02:55] <AAA> blabit  and the drive is spinning and good and connected proper
[02:55] <fistandantilus> umn.edu, woo!
[02:55] <blabit> Yes sir.
[02:55] <Slasher> nocarrier, thank you
[02:55] <fiveiron> whats a good backup solution for linux?
[02:55] <UbuntuJulez> how do you browse to a ~/. directory
[02:55] <blabit> Should I try to reformat it?
[02:55] <DarkAudit> finally fixed my applications font issue... it wasn't changing no matter what I did
[02:55] <nocarrier> Slasher: np
[02:55] <blabit> I think it may be NTFS
[02:55] <AAA> blabit  you have to find it to format it =p
[02:55] <micahcowan> threeonefour, when you've changed it back and saved /etc/fstab, try running the command "mount /mnt/floppy", and give us the output from that command
[02:55] <blabit> AAA good point
[02:55] <fistandantilus> UbuntuJulez: in nautilus? you need to go to view and click 'show hidden files'
[02:55] <fiveiron> UbuntuJulez, cd ~/.whatever_the_dir_name_is
[02:55] <fiveiron> oh
[02:55] <fiveiron> lol n
[02:55] <AAA> blabit  you did run that with sudo right
[02:55] <fiveiron> nm
[02:56] <FurryNemesis> test
[02:56] <UbuntuJulez> in nautilus, have hidden files already supposed to be showing
[02:56] <DarkAudit> gtk2-engines-gtk-qt put a gtk2rc file in tha locked the Applications font setting in GNOME, even though it was meant only for use in KDE
[02:56] <blabit> AAA I am not really clear on what you mean....I pasted the sudo code into the terminal....and hit return, got nothing
[02:56] <fistandantilus> UbuntuJulez: it should be right in your home dir then ~ = tilde = shortcut to home user dir
[02:56] <Blinker> erm. when using apt-get, I get the following errors.  E: Could not open lock file /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (13 Permission denied) E: Unable to lock the download directory
[02:56] <Blinker> anyone know how to solve this?
[02:56] <micahcowan> blabit, when that happens, it usually indicates that there's no device there. Are you sure /dev/hdb is the right one?
[02:56] <AAA> blabit  and it asked you for your password?
[02:57] <UbuntuJulez> thanks
[02:57] <threeonefour> micahcowan, AAA, mount: only root can mount /dev/fd0 on /mnt/floppy
[02:57] <threeonefour>       but i am root
[02:57] <UbuntuJulez> i guess after you tell nautilus to show hidden files you have to close it and reopen it
[02:57] <blabit> AAA, what is the code again...I will give it one more shot
[02:57] <AAA> micahcowan  he said it was hooked up on the primary as slave on IDE
[02:57] <AAA> blabit  sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb
[02:58] <AAA> threeonefour  sudo
[02:58] <blabit> AAA just tried it and it went directly to a cursor, did not ask for a psswrd
[02:58] <UbuntuJulez> it really amazes me how many themes on gnomelook are designed to look like window$
[02:58] <yozBuntu> well i'm getting a lot of blanks in #ubuntu-xgl ;)
[02:58] <UbuntuJulez> its like..uhh..WHY/
[02:58] <fistandantilus> UbuntuJulez: yeah sucks doesnt it ;)
[02:58] <yozBuntu> s/blanks/blank stares/
[02:58] <micahcowan> UbuntuJulez, yeah, exactly... I tend to avoid those...
[02:58] <yozBuntu> if i could figure out why clicking themes in cgwd doesn't actually do anything.
[02:58] <fistandantilus> half of them look like vista *honk*
[02:58] <yozBuntu> it doesn't change the screen in any way
[02:58] <doughboy> I was wondering if there are any advantages to disable SSID broadcast on a wireless router? Anybody know?
[02:59] <AAA> blabit  try that with /dev/hdd and /dev/sda /dev/sdb/
[02:59] <Aberrant22> UbuntuJulez: That way I can sneak Ubuntu on my parents without them realizing it
[02:59] <Blinker> doughboy: added security
[02:59] <UbuntuJulez> Aberrant22, that is funny
[02:59] <fistandantilus> haha
[02:59] <yozBuntu> doughboy, harder to try to attack your network that way
[02:59] <UbuntuJulez> i already switched my parents
[02:59] <threeonefour> ok that worked but will that work all the time or will i have to do that every time
[02:59] <yozBuntu> if you can't see the name of the network its harder to get to you ;)
[02:59] <UbuntuJulez> now..no more tech support calls at 2am or in the middle of sex
[02:59] <AAA> blabit  just arrow up and backspace and change (you can use tab to complete the line for your)
[02:59] <Aberrant22> UbuntuJulez: I've been trying.  My mom was running win98 until six months ago
[02:59] <txx2> Hello, I'm currently editing grub (.list) file for Ubuntu, but it doesn't seem to work. It's on my main hardd rive (only one in my laptop) it's on hda2 and it's 6.10 with standard kernel, can someone please PM me the right config line?.. Thank you.
[02:59] <yozBuntu> unfortunately i've also seen where windows XP won't latch to a wifi network if you don't SSID broadcast initially.
[02:59] <yozBuntu> don't know if it's the same in linux land
[03:00] <fistandantilus> thats XP's fault
[03:00] <fistandantilus> works finee in linux
[03:00] <fistandantilus> im running wifi without ESSID right now
[03:00] <UbuntuJulez> Ubuntu
[03:00] <yozBuntu> fist, yea even if i tell it exactly what the name is and everything
[03:00] <UbuntuJulez> geez..can't spell
[03:00] <yozBuntu> it still won't latch until i SSID broadcast at least once.
[03:00] <yozBuntu> stupid. ;)
[03:00] <fistandantilus> wierd
[03:00] <blabit> AAA, tried both of those and still did not prompt for a psswrd
[03:00] <eternaljoy> does anyone have a Wave or Audio file how to pronounce Linux and Ubuntu?  preferbly from Linus Torvalds
[03:01] <threeonefour> AAA will that work all the time or will i have to do it every time
[03:01] <micahcowan> UbuntuJulez, "he"? Julez sounds like a version of Julie...
[03:01] <AAA> blabit  that is normal. did you get any output?
[03:01] <fistandantilus> eternaljoy: ubuntu is right on the front web page, ooh boon too
[03:01] <blabit> nothing but a prompt
[03:01] <UbuntuJulez> micahcowan, yes "HE"
[03:01] <txx2> eternaljoy,  that's on wikipedia.org
[03:01] <UbuntuJulez> my name is Julien
[03:01] <Kookookapo1> Does anyone know how to replace windows booter with GRUB?
[03:01] <Phantom784> eternaljoy: i think theres one for "linux" on wikipedia
[03:01] <eternaljoy> txx2: audio files?
[03:01] <AAA> threeonefour  just mount /mnt/floppy
[03:01] <sparkleytone> can anyone recommend a good, lightweight, easily manageable yet still sexy wiki server?
[03:01] <eternaljoy> Phantom784: audio files?
[03:01] <fistandantilus> linus says it lee nux
[03:01] <txx2> eternaljoy,  Yes, I wouldn't say it for nothing
[03:01] <threeonefour> ok thx
[03:01] <uber_mort> Hi all, my buddy just installed Ubuntu and got his nvidia drivers working, but now his fonts look pretty bad.  Any ideas?
[03:01] <UbuntuJulez> but thanks for mistaking me for a chick, micahcowan
[03:02] <UbuntuJulez> hahah
[03:02] <Phantom784> eternaljoy: yea.  wikipedia has ogg files for some articles
[03:02] <|thunder> where is the fimware dir in dapper, to install ivitv drivers
[03:02] <eternaljoy> how do you properly prnounce Ubuntu?  any audio files?
[03:02] <fistandantilus> who the hell cares how its pronounced anyway
[03:02] <UbuntuJulez> oo-boon--too
[03:02] <fistandantilus> eternaljoy: once again
[03:02] <fistandantilus> i already told you
[03:02] <txx2> OO-bun-TOO
[03:02] <fistandantilus> ooh boon too
[03:02] <blabit> AAA any ideas?
[03:02] <BobSongs> eternaljoy, It's pronounced Oo-BOON-two
[03:02] <AAA> "I pronounce Linux ~Linux~"
[03:02] <UbuntuJulez> oh ..not Line-UX?
[03:02] <Phantom784> the people I know don't pronounce it the linus way, but nobody cares
[03:02] <unstablesob> ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/SillySounds/english.au
[03:02] <micahcowan> threeonefour, if you don't want to have to be root, you can change the part on the /mnt/floppy line in /etc/fstab that says "defaults" to "defaults,user".
[03:02] <BobSongs> LEEN ux
[03:02] <txx2> linux - lie nux
[03:02] <fistandantilus> the pronunciation is on the FIRST page of ubuntu.com, obviously havent been there much
[03:03] <UbuntuJulez> lihn-ix
[03:03] <BobSongs> Linus Torvald's name is pronounced "LEE nus".
[03:03] <fistandantilus> apples and oranges
[03:03] <micahcowan> which most people botch to lihn-ux
[03:03] <AAA> blabit  is this a live cd or an install? is there winders on part? and it _IS_ slave ? try changing the jumper from cable select to primary slave and set the other primary master
[03:03] <micahcowan> and some pronounce LINE-ux.
[03:03] <UbuntuJulez> ROFL @ the name unstablesob
[03:03] <fistandantilus> if someone told me i was saying it wrong id tell em to blow my dice personally
[03:03] <Phantom784> iron geek doesn't on his website, and it always throws me off
[03:03] <UbuntuJulez> LMAO @ "blow my dice"
[03:04] <BobSongs> So, it end up being oo-BOON-two LEE-nux.
[03:04] <micahcowan> Myself, I stick with the "lihn-ux" version, because most everyone else does, and I don't like to make an a$$-h outta myself...
[03:04] <UbuntuJulez> u already did earlier, micahCOW-an
[03:04] <blabit> This is an install.....Primary master running linux, CD writer as slave on IDE 1 and Secondary HD as master on IDE 2.  NO Windows installed.
[03:04] <Flannel> no.  Linux is not LINE-ux.  linus is however.  http://www.paul.sladen.org/pronunciation/
[03:04] <BobSongs> Yeah; I pronounce it LIE-nix
[03:05] <AAA> blabit  damnit! then sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdc
[03:05] <AAA> that is most ppl's cdroms
[03:05] <fistandantilus> i pronounce like it looks.
[03:05] <blabit> AAA......I don't understand what your saying...sorry
[03:05] <txx2> What's the standard config line for grub, for ubuntu 6.10?
[03:05] <visik7> !main
[03:05] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:05] <micahcowan> UbuntuJulez, aw, hey now... I'm not the one who chose to refer to myself as "Julez"...
[03:05] <micahcowan> :)
[03:05] <AAA> that quote was the old redhat-sound-config test sound of Linus saying that
[03:06] <robertj> AAA: thanks
[03:06] <fistandantilus> UbuntuJulez: some of them dont stick to the standard so they wont work just dragged in ;/
[03:06] <AAA> blabit  sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdc
[03:06] <UbuntuJulez> micahcowan, been my nickname for years
[03:06] <UbuntuJulez> never heard a girl named Julie go by Julez
[03:06] <blabit> AAA, just did that, and Got some output..what do I do with it?
[03:06] <UbuntuJulez> but i'm one of those geeks who names everything with a "z" on the end
[03:06] <AAA> blabit  well, you could put it in pastebin
[03:06] <micahcowan> UbuntuJulez, Funny how /everyone/ wishing to poke fun at my name latches onto the COW bit... my brother actually has a site he called "Mad COWan"... huh!
[03:07] <blabit> what is pastebin?
[03:07] <micahcowan> Ubugtu, yeah, I've known a few.
[03:07] <eternaljoy> can someone record a wave file for me how to properly say and pronounce Ubuntu?
[03:07] <AAA> blabit  along with the output of mount
[03:07] <UbuntuJulez> folders in my home directory: "tunez, pornz, moviez"
[03:07] <AAA> !pastebin
[03:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:07] <micahcowan> :)
[03:07] <eternaljoy> BobSongs: can you record it?
[03:07] <ian_> Question: I keep trying to install Ubuntu on a new computer and I get an error saying that writing to /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/disc is not possible...
[03:07] <blabit> AAA, output of mount?  I dn't know what that means?
[03:07] <micahcowan> UbuntuJulez, sorry, not Ubugtu (it keeps completing your name as the bot, due to my negligence)
[03:07] <UbuntuJulez> what are the guidelines for new gdm screens? the last tim ei used a cusotm one, i'd get a black screen about every 3rd boot
[03:08] <UbuntuJulez> hahah
[03:08] <BobSongs> eternaljoy, Well. I could. But I'm fairly new at IRC and would have no idea how to up the file to you. Are you running Dapper Drake?
[03:08] <AAA> blabit  type mount in the same terminal as you typed sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdc and paste it all there
[03:08] <coded1> I'm having a problem with ndiswrapper-1.22, when I try to install the drivers "ndiswrapper -i <driver name>
[03:08] <blabit> AAA, past it all where?
[03:08] <AAA> BobSongs  netcat =p
[03:08] <coded1> it gives me an error "could not copy"
[03:08] <eternaljoy> BobSongs: dont worry then :P
[03:09] <AAA> !tell blabit about pastebin
[03:09] <p3980> coded1: are you running your command as root?
[03:09] <blabit> What is pastebin?
[03:09] <coded1> when I copy it manually to /etc/ndiswrapper/wusb54g, remove the driver (-e) and re-install it deletes the files from that directory
[03:09] <shinobi2> how do i make a flash web page? which apt do i need?
[03:09] <blabit> sorry for being a pain......
[03:09] <philippe_> Hi
[03:09] <UbuntuJulez> after spending almost hte whole weekend trying to figure out how to install it
[03:09] <coded1> yup all as root
[03:09] <micahcowan> blabit, look up a bit for the ubotu quote about pastebin.
[03:10] <^TROUBLE^> hello all
[03:10] <p3980> coded1: is your adapter a linksys adapter?
[03:10] <txx2> does anyone know the config line for 6.10 in grub?
[03:10] <philippe_> i would like to know if someone has already installed wow correctly with wine
[03:10] <coded1> this is the guide I'm using >>http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=225206
[03:10] <^TROUBLE^> who here owns the channel helper bot (bot that responds to !commands)
[03:10] <Kookookapo1> how do i install a tar.bz2?
[03:10] <txx2> Kookookapo1,  make install
[03:10] <txx2> i think
[03:11] <micahcowan> ^TROUBLE^, he's sorta an "official" bot. There are operators... I think most of the ops also have access to the bot.
[03:11] <AAA> Kookookapo1  you have to unpack it first :: tar jxvf file.tar.bz2 then compile it usually
[03:11] <txx2> Kookookapo1,  complain to ubuntu forums for not having a nice GUI installer for all zipped files.
[03:11] <blabit> AAA, it is on pastebin.....now what?
[03:11] <coded1> the guide sais to copy the files manually over the files but ndiswrapper just deletes the whole directory each time
[03:11] <AAA> blabit  paste the link to it please :)
[03:11] <p3980> philippe_: according to wine appdb, WOW works excellently with wine on Dapper
[03:11] <blabit> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19907
[03:11] <^TROUBLE^> reason why im asking is because i have 2 egg bots and would like to have an addon simuler to that they have here for mine
[03:12] <BobSongs> eternaljoy, No prob.
[03:12] <BobSongs> eternaljoy, Sorry. Noob here.
[03:12] <blabit> Like that?
[03:12] <txx2>  does anyone know the config line for 6.10 in grub?
[03:12] <|thunder> anyone know where the Firmware files are to be stored in dapper? i want to install ivtv
[03:12] <txx2>  does anyone know the config line for 6.10 in grub?
[03:13] <txx2> some lazy people in this channel i see
[03:13] <|thunder> txx2, 6.10 what ?
[03:13] <txx2> ubuntu 6.10
[03:13] <AAA> well blabit it looks like there is not a filesystem on your drive
[03:13] <micahcowan> !ubotu > ^TROUBLE^
[03:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about > ^TROUBLE^ - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:13] <philippe_> p3980 ok thankx
[03:13] <txx2> the grub line in the config file in DOT.list
[03:13] <ian_> Question: I keep trying to install Ubuntu on a new computer and I get an error saying that writing to /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/disc is not possible...
[03:13] <blabit> AAA, so how do I set that up?
[03:13] <^TROUBLE^> im looking to make a helper bot one that will respond to users with !specific commands and bot replies to those uers with msgs
[03:13] <AAA> blabit  are you sure it is ntfs formatted?
[03:13] <blabit> Can I just reformat it?
[03:13] <UbuntuJulez> !you
[03:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about you - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:14] <garryF> The config lines are probably similar if not the same, it depends on the version of grub not the linux version.
[03:14] <AAA> blabit  use cfdisk /dev/hdc and create a new ext3 partition on the whole drive
[03:14] <micahcowan> !ubotu
[03:14] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[03:14] <UbuntuJulez> hrm, it seems the unofficial ubuntu guide is down
[03:14] <micahcowan> ^TROUBLE^, the above links might be interesting to you...
[03:14] <blabit> AAA, just paste that into a terminal?
[03:14] <^TROUBLE^> ty
[03:14] <AAA> blabit  cfdisk /dev/hdc
[03:14] <micahcowan> Ubugtu, which ones? the links on the <bang>ubotu bit seem to work for me...
[03:14] <micahcowan> UbuntuJulez, gah
[03:15] <blabit> AAA, gives me a fatal error
[03:15] <micahcowan> like the fifth time... :/
[03:15] <AAA> blabit  use sudo cfdisk /dev/hdc
[03:15] <blabit> AAA, should I make it bootable?
[03:16] <Booge> what file do you edit to change your resolution in X?
[03:16] <AAA> blabit  no
[03:17] <jimcooncat> installing ubuntu-minimal to upgrade a previous sarge install. have a config problem...
[03:17] <blabit> AAA, so what do I do then?
[03:17] <micahcowan> Booge, /etc/X11/xorg.conf; but you may have good luck with System > Preferences > Screen Resolution
[03:17] <p3980> jimcoonat: what's the issue
[03:17] <Booge> micahcowan i can't even load X
[03:17] <jimcooncat> /etc/pango/aliases can now be managed by defoma. Do you want to entrust font management to defoma?
[03:17] <p3980> Booge, then edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:17] <visik7> how can I compile resticted modules for a custom kernel ?
[03:17] <blabit> AAA, Primary or ligical partition?
[03:17] <jimcooncat> its a configuration prompt
[03:17] <micahcowan> Booge, whoops! Are you sure resolution is the issue?
[03:17] <jimcooncat> options are yes or no
[03:17] <p3980> jimcooncat, what's the prompt say?
[03:17] <AAA> blabit  primary
[03:17] <jimcooncat> yes seems to be default
[03:18] <p3980> jimcoonat, what ddoes the prompt say
[03:18] <p3980> does*
[03:18] <blabit> AAA, I set it to primary, and maximum space, now what?
[03:18] <visik7> !restricted
[03:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:18] <AAA> Write
[03:18] <Tsukino> anyone in here know how to edit acpi settings in Gnome?
[03:18] <jimcooncat> If you say yes here, /etc/pango/pangox.aliases will be a symbolic link to /var/lib/defoma/pango.d/pango.aliases
[03:18] <micahcowan> Booge, when you edit the xorg.conf file, you want the lines that starts with the word "Modes", and try removing the first resolution from each Modes line.
[03:18] <visik7> !restricted-modules
[03:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about restricted-modules - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:19] <eternaljoy> 'li' is pronounced with a short [ee]  sound: compare prInt, mInImal etc.
[03:19] <eternaljoy> 'nux' is also short, non-diphtong, like in pUt.  It's partly due to
[03:19] <eternaljoy> minix: linux was just my working name for the thing, and as I wrote it
[03:19] <eternaljoy> to replace minix on my system, the result is what it is...  linus' minix
[03:19] <eternaljoy> became linux.   <-- Linus
[03:19] <Booge> it says Failed to start the X server (your graphical interface) It is likely that it is not set up correctly.  You will need to log in ona a console and reconfigure the X server. Then restart GDM
[03:19] <p3980> jimcooncat, just click OK
[03:19] <garryF> !build-essential
[03:19] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:19] <jimcooncat> so is a regular dapper install use a symbolic link?
[03:19] <Tennessee> Hi all, I've got a weird X problem that I don't  think is related to my xorg.conf. The machine boots with my second monitor at the correct resolution -- I can move my mouse over to screen 2 at the graphical login. However, after I login the screen resets and the second screen is no longer used.
[03:19] <Tennessee> Any suggestions?
[03:19] <p3980> jimcooncat, mine does, yes
[03:19] <blabit> AAA, I have created the partition......do I just close cfdisk? and the drive will be there?
[03:19] <micahcowan> eternaljoy, Actually, his name is LEE-noos, so it's LEE-nooks.
[03:19] <jimcooncat> wait I got one, i can check it out myself
[03:19] <AAA> blabit  then your need to > sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdc1
[03:19] <jimcooncat> p3980, thanks
[03:19] <micahcowan> eternaljoy, but /nobody/ pronounces it like that.
[03:19] <AAA> blabit  then your need to > sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdc1
[03:19] <eternaljoy> micahcowan: Linus does :)
[03:20] <fistandantilus> and no one cares either
[03:20] <p3980> Tennessee, do you have it configured for multi-monitor support
[03:20] <p3980> jimcooncat, welcome
[03:20] <micahcowan> Everyone else does lihn-uks (the way you described)
[03:20] <jimcooncat> p3980, that was some stuff I never got into before, glad you were here
[03:20] <eternaljoy> micahcowan: how you prounce it? can you record it?
[03:20] <p3980> jimcooncat, don't mention it
[03:20] <eternaljoy> micahcowan: record it and send me?
[03:20] <micahcowan> Many people I know call him Lie-nuss, anyway...
[03:20] <micahcowan> I do it the same way you described. :-)
[03:20] <Tsukino> my old supervisor in the college computer lab used to pronouce it lie-nux
[03:20] <digitalpenguin> anyone able to tell me why after i just re-installed ubuntu that i am still getting errors about : clvm,redhat-cluster-suite,and system-config-cluster
[03:20] <blabit> AAA, that command did not work, says drive does not exist
[03:20] <Tennessee> p3980: define "it". My computer has been using dual monitors successfully for months -- something has changed in the config  that changes what happens when I log in and I'm not sure what.
[03:20] <micahcowan> (Don't have a mic set up, ATM...)
[03:20] <p3980> eternaljoy, the man is Lie-nuss, the system is Lin-ux
[03:21] <micahcowan> The man is actually Lee-nuss.
[03:21] <p3980> Tennesse, have you upgraded anything recently, and did it work out the box?
[03:21] <AAA> blabit  did you write the changes to the disk? answered "yes you are sure"
[03:21] <eternaljoy> p3980: as in Lyn nux(ducks) ?
[03:21] <micahcowan> But in America, it usually gets Lie-nuss, and he seems to accept that...
[03:21] <p3980> eternaljoy, yes
[03:21] <blabit> lemme try it again
[03:21] <AAA> blabit  make sure you use sudo
[03:21] <eternaljoy> micahcowan: can you record how to say Ubuntu and send it to me?
[03:21] <eternaljoy> p3980: can you record how to say Ubuntu and send it to me?
[03:21] <fistandantilus> takae this crap to #offtopic
[03:22] <eternaljoy> fistandantilus: chill
[03:22] <micahcowan> eternaljoy, well, like I said, i don't have a mic... and I have no idea whether I say Ubuntu right. :-)
[03:22] <p3980> eternaljox, oo-bun-too, iirc
[03:22] <digitalpenguin> anyone able to tell me why after i just re-installed ubuntu that i am still getting errors about : clvm,redhat-cluster-suite,and system-config-cluster
[03:22] <eternaljoy> micahcowan: heh ok np
[03:22] <fistandantilus> eternaljoy: your not on topic and got banned like yesterday for the same stupid troll crap, you chill
[03:22] <eternaljoy> p3980: ok
[03:22] <Tennessee> p3980: Not that I can think off. I *was* meddling with the resolution settings trying (successfully) to get the projector working. I can't, however, find any obvious candidates for what might be going on here. Like I said, outside of xorg.conf which I think is correct, I don't know where else to look.
[03:22] <eternaljoy> fistandantilus: ok np
[03:22] <eternaljoy> brb
[03:22] <micahcowan> sorry...
[03:22] <blabit> AAA wrote the partition and now it is saying it is not bootable....what command now?
[03:22] <p3980> Tennessee, did you have to do any configuration to get it to work in the first place, and what display manager are you using
[03:23] <Tennessee> p3980: Outside of configuring xorg.conf, there was nothing additional that I had to do. I'm using gdm.
[03:23] <AAA> blabit  quit and run sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdc1
[03:23] <blabit> AAA, done.
[03:23] <p3980> Tennesse: Have you tried logging into KDE as well... does it do the same thing as it does after you login into gnome?
[03:24] <Tsukino> anyone in here know how to edit acpi settings in Gnome? my throttling is off and my laptop just runs a fair bit hotter than in Windows =(
[03:24] <blabit> AAA, back to a promt...now what?
[03:24] <simon___> Hello, I just installed the nvidia binary driver and now when I try to start X it just doesn't start. What can I do/check to fix this?
[03:24] <digitalpenguin> anyone able to tell me why after i just re-installed ubuntu that i am still getting errors about : clvm,redhat-cluster-suite,and system-config-cluster
[03:24] <AAA> blabit  sudo mkdir /mnt/whateveryouwanttonameit
[03:24] <Tennessee> p3980: That would be a good test, but I don't have KDE installed. If I can't work it out, I could try that. I could also just try as another user to see if it's in my user's configuration but haven't yet.
[03:24] <bnD> can anyone help me out? as root i extracted the vmware server and got a bunch of errors along the lines of 'cannot create symlink' and 'cannot change ownership'
[03:24] <AAA> blabit  then sudo mount /dev/hdc1 /mnt/thatname
[03:25] <p3980> Tennessee: sudo apt-get install kubuntu
[03:25] <AAA> blabit  there is still one more step
[03:25] <p3980> Tennessee: then reboot and try KDE... if that fails, try another users profile (so we can isolate the issue)
[03:25] <phasegen> I have a tough one if anyone feels up to it.
[03:25] <garryF> Tennessee: I've seen this behavior when two monitors have been installed, but the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf is set to use the primary monitor and only that one. It shows signal output to the secondary but shuts that off on login.
[03:25] <AAA> phasegen  bah ;>
[03:25] <h8red> mount: block device /dev/hdd is write-protected, mounting read-only problem on my cd drive now, someone please help
[03:26] <p3980> phasegen: continue
[03:26] <simon___> Anyone? I don't have access to another pc until tomorrow so anyhelp would be really appreciated =(
[03:26] <blabit> AAA mounted....anything else I need to do?
[03:26] <digitalpenguin> phasegen: is it tougher then mine
[03:26] <AAA> h8red  it is not rightable
[03:26] <AAA> blabit  yeah, you need to do _exactly_ what I tell you here
[03:26] <Tennessee> garryF: Interesting... Is there any way to determine which of the xorg.conf modes is currently being used?
[03:26] <OtavioRibeiro> simon_
[03:26] <blabit> AAA, so what next?
[03:26] <OtavioRibeiro> i've had the same problem
[03:26] <AAA> blabit  vim /etc/fstab and then arrow down to the bottom of the file
[03:27] <simon___> OtavioRibeiro: how did you fix it?
[03:27] <OtavioRibeiro> check where the X nvidea driver has been installed
[03:27] <AAA> blabit  sudo vim /etc/fstab
[03:27] <h8red> AAA: what does that mean?
[03:27] <phasegen> I'm trying to find the name an app (azureus) uses to identify itself when establishing a udp connection through my router firewall
[03:27] <Tennessee> ALL: Thanks, I'm just restarting my system due to the morning's updates. I'll try logging in as a different user at the same time. BRB.
[03:27] <simon___> OtavioRibeiro: how?
[03:27] <AAA> h8red  is it a regular cd?
[03:27] <OtavioRibeiro> simon___ check in /usr/X11R6
[03:27] <h8red> dvd/cd burner
[03:27] <garryF> Tennessee I would take a look at the xorg file and see if it shows two monitor specs. Somewhere you should see a line that you can tell specifies the active monitor and be able to change it.
[03:27] <blabit> AAA, done....next
[03:27] <OtavioRibeiro> simon___ are you using x.org?
[03:27] <simon___> OtavioRibeiro: yes.
[03:27] <AAA> h8red  then your medium is not re-writable
[03:28] <digitalpenguin> anyone able to tell me why after i just re-installed ubuntu that i am still getting errors about : clvm,redhat-cluster-suite,and system-config-cluster
[03:28] <OtavioRibeiro> simon___ nvidea crete the drivers into the XFree directory
[03:28] <AAA> blabit  ok, you are at the bottom of the file.  type yy and then type p
[03:28] <OtavioRibeiro> simon___ you need to copy it to Xorg directory
[03:28] <h8red> AAA: i'm just trying to read a disc
[03:28] <OtavioRibeiro> simon___ manually
[03:28] <AAA> h8red  the ls /mnt/cdrom0
[03:28] <simon___> Hmmm...
[03:28] <AAA> h8red  er ls /media/cdrom0
[03:28] <simon___> exactly where is the XFree86 directory?
[03:28] <OtavioRibeiro> simon___ the directory structure are the same.. just change the location
[03:29] <AAA> blabit  that should have copy and pasted a new line
[03:29] <blabit> AAA, did that
[03:29] <AAA> ok, arrow down to the last line and over to where it says /dev/hda1 and make it say hdc1
[03:29] <OtavioRibeiro> simon___ /usr/X11R6
[03:29] <digitalpenguin> Anyone free to help me with a few small/medium problems
[03:29] <simon___> OtavioRibeiro: and then copy to where?
[03:30] <`Inc> is there a way to login without a password?
[03:30] <OtavioRibeiro> simon___ check it.. i'm on windows now!
[03:30] <AAA> blabit  just put the cursor over the a and type rc
[03:30] <`Inc> for an elderly person who could not remember a password
[03:30] <p3980> digitalpenguin: sure -- query me if it's detailed so you don't clog the channel
[03:30] <OtavioRibeiro> simon___ /usr/lib/Xorg something like that
[03:30] <p3980> Tennessee: any luck?
[03:30] <phasegen> digitalpenguin:  are you sure you cleared the partitions all the way out before you installed?
[03:30] <eternaljoy> digitalpenguin: are you related to analogpenguin?
[03:30] <h8red> AAA: it shows what is on the disc, but how do I access it?
[03:30] <Tennessee> Back. Logging into a different profile fixed the second screen issue, so now I need to know what might have caused that.
[03:30] <digitalpenguin> eternaljoy: nope
[03:30] <digitalpenguin> p3980: how do i query you
[03:30] <AAA> h8red  open it in your file browser and click
[03:30] <Tennessee> I'm guessing I may have set the resolution manually using the user preferences, and that's possible overriding the xorg.conf settings?
[03:31] <p3980> h8red: mv /mnt/cdrom1/filename ~/Desktop/
[03:31] <OtavioRibeiro> simon___ you will have the "driver" and "extensinons" directory as in xfree directory
[03:31] <digitalpenguin> phasegen: yes i did
[03:31] <p3980> digitialpenguin: /query p3980
[03:31] <AAA> blabit  you also have to change the mount point, arrow over to where it says /mnt/
[03:31] <`Inc> man its almost getting as bad as gentoo in here
[03:32] <NickPresta> While this is not directly related to Ubuntu, When trying to update Kubuntu using Adept, I get dependency problems with KDE 3.5.4. After reading, it appears that there are known bugs and such with KDE 3.5.4. Truth?
[03:32] <h8red> when I go to computer(file browser) and click on my cd/dvd drive it gives me that mount error
[03:32] <bnD> i receive permission based errors when untarring vmware from a shared fat32 partition, however when i move the tar to my / partition i get no errors, anyone know how to resolve this? i dont have room to untar it on /
[03:32] <AAA> is it a music cd? do you see files when your ls -l /media/cdrom0/
[03:32] <OtavioRibeiro> simon___ if you check the /usr/X11R6 directory you will see that only nvidia drivers are there
[03:32] <garryF> Tennessee: It would change the xorg.conf to match your desired resolution. If your desired resolution is not in xorg.conf you might need to add it. I think more info can be found at this url. !fixres
[03:32] <garryF> !fixres
[03:32] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:33] <h8red> its actually the driver cd for my linksys pci card
[03:33] <h8red> and i can see them when i use ls /media
[03:33] <cius> aren't system calls supposed to be in section 2 of man?
[03:33] <SurfnKid> guys what is the typical or general ALPS device name?
[03:33] <h8red> but when i click to open it in the browser, it fails
[03:34] <AAA> is it a music cd?
[03:34] <phasegen> Anyone know the name azureus uses to identify itself when establishing a udp connection.  My firewall wants to know it.
[03:34] <h8red> AAA: no, its the driver cd for my linksys card
[03:35] <cius> phasegen, the name?  you got a linksys router by chance?
[03:35] <blabit> AAA, can we start that stab command over........i am not following ya
[03:35] <AAA> h8red  ok, ls -l /media/cdrom0/  do you see the files? is there a linux driver on this cd?
[03:35] <phasegen> cius: yup
[03:36] <h8red> AAA: i do see the files, and i was going to use the instructions that i found on ubuntu's forums to use the drivers on that cd
[03:36] <cius> phasegen, you can put anything you want int the name field, thats just teh name you want to associate with the forwarding of that port, afaik it has nothing to do with the actual traffic being forwarded or where its going
[03:36] <AAA> blabit  pastebin what you have in your /etc/fstab right now
[03:36] <cius> phasegen, I just call mine bt
[03:36] <AAA> h8red  ok then you should be able to browse it with ls -lR (that will show you every file and directory)
[03:37] <OtavioRibeiro> simon___ have you find it?
[03:37] <h8red> AAA: but shouldn't i be able to open it in the file browser?
[03:37] <SixtyWatt> Is the ubuntuguide site down?
[03:37] <cius> phasegen, I really think that field is there more to remind you what you're forwarding the port for than anything
[03:37] <AAA> h8red  theoritcally, but see if that command shows you the files first
[03:37] <SixtyWatt> I am unable to get to it.
[03:38] <phasegen> cius: Thanks.  I've tried to find a good faq in the ubuntu wiki for azureus, with no joy.  I had hoped the router was the problem, but now I guess I'm back to the drawing board.
[03:38] <blabit> AAA http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19908
[03:38] <h8red> AAA: i can view the files with that command
[03:39] <AAA> h8red  so find the one you want and cp /media/cdrom0/file ~/
[03:39] <AAA> blabit  geez...  ok r to recover
[03:39] <blabit> AAA HUH?
[03:40] <h8red> AAA: ok, i understand that, but thats kind of a pain in the but to do each time, why can't i view it from the browser?
[03:40] <visik7> !edgy
[03:40] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[03:40] <visik7> !schedule
[03:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[03:40] <AAA> h8red  no habla gui
[03:40] <AAA> blabit  you are giving me grey hair
[03:41] <cius> is there an ubuntu-dev channel for people doing dev work on ubuntu?
[03:41] <cius> I take it this isn't the place to ask dev questions
[03:41] <garryF> If after pasting, you hit send, you will then see it from the brower. Then you can copy and paste the URL to here for whoever you wish to see it.
[03:41] <h8red> anyone that can help me with the gui?
[03:41] <p3980> h8red, depends on the problem. what's the issue?
[03:42] <AAA> blabit  you need to edit your /etc/fstab to add your new drive
[03:42] <h8red> p3980: I can view the files using ls /media, but I can't open the drive in the file browser, it gives me this error mount: block device /dev/hdd is write-protected, mounting read-only
[03:42] <h8red> mount: /dev/hdd already mounted or /media/cdrom0 busy
[03:42] <h8red> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hdd is already mounted on /media/cdrom0
[03:43] <bnD> does anyone know when i attempt to move any files from my / partition to a shared fat32 partition i get the error 'failed to preserver ownership..operation not permitted'?
[03:43] <p3980> h8red: try sudo chmod 555 media
[03:43] <hbi> hey any1 how to fix the fact my fan barely runs on my laptop with ubuntu
[03:43] <p3980> sudo chmod 555 /media
[03:43] <SixtyWatt> Is ubuntuguide.org down?
[03:44] <AAA> bnD  you don't own the files or the dir you are currently in
[03:44] <bnD> AAA, im set as root, do you know how i can work around this?
[03:44] <p3980> bnD, chown [yourusername]  [filename] 
[03:44] <bnD> p3980, thanks
[03:44] <AAA> bnD  with rysnc the p option preserves fileperms
[03:44] <bnD> AAA, thanks
[03:44] <Tsukino> anyone in here know how to edit acpi settings in Gnome? my throttling is off and my laptop just runs a fair bit hotter than in Windows =(
[03:45] <AAA> bnD  same with cp and mv i believe check the man page
[03:45] <bnD> AAA, will do :)
[03:45] <Quarupted> Can someone help me, how can I net work 2 Ubuntu boxes on the same router?
[03:45] <Quarupted> SSH?
[03:45] <h8red> p3980: chmod: cannot access `media': No such file or directory
[03:45] <p3980> Quarupted: what brand router
[03:45] <hbi> i need help please my laptop gets way too hot with ubuntu because of the lack of the fan being used in windows its fine but in ubuntu its not any1 got any ideas?
[03:45] <p3980> h8red: sudo chmod 555 /media
[03:45] <Quarupted> Linksys
[03:45] <AAA> Quarupted  what do you want them to do? they both need ip's in the same netwask to start with
[03:46] <p3980> Quarupted: wireless or wired
[03:46] <AAA> well I guess that isn't really true
[03:46] <Quarupted> I think the router does give them local IP's on the local network
[03:46] <Quarupted> NAT
[03:46] <h8red> p3980: then what?
[03:46] <AAA> Quarupted  what do you want to do with them? can the both access the net?
[03:46] <jonykal> hi
[03:46] <thinh> anyone dealt with compiz yet?
[03:46] <p3980> h8red: if it worked, cd /media
[03:46] <hbi> i need help please my laptop gets way too hot with ubuntu because of the lack of the fan being used in windows its fine but in ubuntu its not any1 got any ideas?
[03:46] <jonykal> is there a nice simple way to compile a kernel?
[03:46] <sceptre0> i have compiz installed
[03:46] <bnD> hrm, thanks guys, got that taken care of.. any ideas about this? -> "tar: vmware-server-distrib/vmware-install.pl: Cannot create symlink to `bin/vmware-uninstall.pl': Operation not permitted"
[03:46] <AAA> Quarupted  your firewall is going to NAT for you
[03:46] <thinh> i have it sort of running but it is messing things up
[03:46] <garryF> Tsukino:  System/Preferences/Power Management.
[03:46] <Quarupted> AAA: yes they can, I want to be able to easily control the other and transfer files
[03:47] <p3980> h8red: then cp [filename]  ~/
[03:47] <AAA> Quarupted  sshd
[03:47] <AAA> Quarupted  you can do any damn thing with ssh
[03:47] <jonykal> it seems i have no choice cuz i have a bcm wifi card
[03:47] <Quarupted> Anyway to get a nice graphical interface?
[03:47] <thinh> the maxi and min and x button is gone on all the windows
[03:47] <thinh> i cant move the box around either
[03:47] <bubu1uk> what is the newest kernel version in repositories?
[03:48] <thinh> i follow a how to now everything is so slow
[03:48] <pengi_> yay
[03:48] <Quarupted> can I tunnel X through ssh?
[03:48] <thinh> it like compiz working but i dont have opengl enable
[03:48] <Quarupted> and how can i get my local IP?
[03:48] <AAA> Quarupted  oh use you can
[03:48] <Quarupted> AAA: ?
[03:48] <Quarupted> wha?
[03:48] <AAA> Quarupted  and run vnc over ssh or use your ssh key with XDMRPC
[03:49] <Quarupted> wow what does all that mean?
[03:49] <thinh> i can only have one programm open becuse i can locate the top menu botton
[03:49] <p3980> Quarupted: for your localip, type ifconfig in a terminal
[03:49] <p3980> and find your connection and look for your local ip
[03:49] <h8red> p3980: ok, i'm totally new to linux, as of today, but I just found out I can browse the cd if I go into filesystem/cdrom, but why do I get that mount error when i go to view from computer?
[03:49] <AAA> Quarupted  ssh can do lots of cool stuff and yes you can make ssh tunnels
[03:49] <thinh> anyone help me with compiz? or how to get it back to normal again
[03:49] <p3980> h8red: to be honest, not a clue as it is chmod'd correctly and you can list it
[03:49] <p3980> h8red: is it a cd-rw?
[03:50] <AAA> you can use remote computers X session fairly easily with the -host foo:1 option
[03:50] <h8red> dvd/cd r-rw
[03:50] <h8red> p3980: dvd/cd r-rw
[03:50] <AAA> and just make a tunnel to that servers xserver then connect your xsession over ssh to localhost:1
[03:51] <Phantom784> hi.  ubuntu was working fine, but I tried to change a seting in xorg.conf, and x refuses to start.  i put it back, and it still won't work. it just finishes the loading screen and then the loading bar empties and it gets stuck there.  any advice?
[03:51] <SurfnKid> thinh, #ubuntu-xgl or #xgl
[03:51] <Quarupted> AAA: I have no clue what your talking about
[03:51] <Quarupted> AAA: ipconfig command not found
[03:51] <AAA> Quarupted  I was babbling
[03:51] <AAA> Quarupted  ifconfig
[03:52] <bubu1uk> Quarupted: google for it how to tunnel vnc over ssh
[03:52] <bubu1uk> Quarupted: good how to is on gentoo wiki
[03:52] <Tsukino> garryF: my power management window doesn't have any options relating to acpi.
[03:52] <Quarupted> How do I make SSHD run all the time?
[03:53] <AAA> Quarupted  it defaults to start at boot on the install
[03:53] <garryF> !acpi
[03:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about acpi - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:53] <yozBuntu> anyone know quick way to get the amount of video RAM you have
[03:53] <AAA> Quarupted  you can configure it in /etc/ssh/
[03:53] <yozBuntu> i don't understand why this is such a hard number to get
[03:53] <garryF> Tsukino I would google for your laptop model + ubuntu + acpi
[03:54] <AAA> xdpyinfo
[03:54] <Quarupted> So I can just do CTR ALT Fx and open another x session on the remote host that would be cool? AAA
[03:54] <AAA> yozBuntu  xdpyinfo
[03:54] <FantasticFoo> so, swap is supposed to be twice the size of your RAM?
[03:54] <AAA> yozBuntu  lspci -vv should also show you
[03:55] <Quarupted> AAA: how do I configure SSHD from /etc/ssh ?
[03:55] <yozBuntu> aaa, xdpyinfo gives me 'maximum request size 16777212 bytes'
[03:55] <yozBuntu> does that mean 16MB video ram ?
[03:55] <imago_> what program/command can i use to extract files from a .dsk disk image
[03:55] <LordDagoth> Hey
[03:55] <garryF> FantasticFoo Lots of folks get by with a swap the same size just fine.
[03:56] <LordDagoth> ubuntu won't start for some reason, any one want to help  me?
[03:56] <moike_> hi
[03:56] <garryF> FantasticFoo but if your memory is low, it might help to have a larger swap.
[03:56] <FantasticFoo> i don't even know what swap DOES - is it kinda like a random-access memory ish thing used by the hard drive, or what?
[03:56] <Bob535> Hello peeps
[03:56] <FantasticFoo> :/
[03:56] <AAA> Quarupted  that is where the config files live but the defaults should work fine
[03:56] <Quarupted> AAA: all thats in that config file is hosts???
[03:56] <imago_> aaa, what program/command can i use to extract files from a .dsk disk image
[03:57] <garryF> Swap is a ram on disk for the OS to use to swap out memory when it needs more. Its a sort of virtual Ram on disk.
[03:57] <moike_> is the ubuntu live cd the same as the "Desktop CD"?
[03:57] <scrappy_> FantasticFoo: think windows page file
[03:57] <phasegen> does ubuntu have a firewall built in and enabled by default?
[03:57] <AAA> Quarupted  /etc/ssh/sshd_conf
[03:57] <Quarupted> Theres not an eas yway to make sshd start at startup?
[03:57] <nathanial> hi folks. I have a question on Linux GAMING>
[03:57] <AAA> Quarupted  /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[03:57] <nathanial> Specifically NEXIUZ
[03:57] <visik7> phasegen: no not enabled by default
[03:57] <Quarupted> AAA: Yes that file like I just said just has host names in it
[03:57] <Bob535> Anyone know how to fix this error? E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. Doing what it says doesnt seem to do anything
[03:57] <LordDagoth> After I log on, ubuntu goes to a brownish screen and won't go any further. anyone know what the deal is?
[03:58] <AAA> Quarupted  like I said, the defaults should be fine, if you want to make tunnels, you'll want to make some custom scripts
[03:58] <garryF> Now try to run whatever you did that got you the interruption.
[03:58] <FantasticFoo> garryF: yeah, that's what i thought
[03:58] <Quarupted> AAA: okay but the question was how to make it start at startup
[03:58] <yozBuntu> aaa, lspci says region 0 memory is 16MB, region 1 memory is 64MB, on the video card
[03:58] <scrappy_> nathanial: ?
[03:59] <garryF> FantasticFoo Yep, you right on target.
[03:59] <yozBuntu> is region 0 the real RAM on card, and region 1 the aperture size?
[03:59] <imago_> what program/command can i use to extract files from a .dsk disk image   any and all help is apperciated
[03:59] <phasegen> visik7:  another dead end.  azureus is kicking my butt.
[03:59] <visik7> phasegen: what's wrong with azureus ?
[03:59] <LordDagoth> anybody want to help me in PM?
[04:00] <Quarupted> Okay anyone know to make a service start at startup?
[04:00] <moike_> is the ubuntu live cd the same as the "Desktop CD"??
[04:00] <nathanial> scrappy, i'm attempting to install Nexuiz on ubuntu
[04:00] <scrappy_> nathanial: thats the first person shooter?
[04:00] <bubu1uk> Quarupted: ssh should start at startup by default
[04:00] <nathanial> I've never installed anythign outside of Synaptic. much less anything in .zip format.
[04:00] <nathanial> scrappy yes
[04:00] <Quarupted> Okay but it doesnt
[04:00] <grai> hi.  is there an easy way to remove (or not install) every package but ubuntu-standard and its dependencies?
[04:00] <garryF> Mounting iso files ... mount -o loop is what's use for mounting an .iso file
[04:00] <alpha255> bubu1uk: what's the command in ubuntu like chkconfig for fedora?
[04:00] <LordDagoth> anybody want to help me in PM?
[04:00] <AAA> Quarupted  it puts it in the startup scripts, look in /etc/rc2.d/ to see what Starts and Kills the number is the order they are processed
[04:00] <p3980> grai: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-standard
[04:00] <garryF> ouch, bad grammar.
[04:01] <scrappy_> nathanial: i downloaded that last week just do unzip filename.zip and then navigate to the directory it creates and run the .sh file to play the game
[04:01] <imago_> what program/command can i use to extract files from a .dsk disk image  anyone
[04:01] <phasegen> visik7: It keeps telling me   UPnP: Mapping 'Incoming Peer Data Port (TCP/49152)' failed.
[04:01] <AAA> Quarupted  you can always /etc/init.d/ssh start|restart|stop
[04:01] <visik7> phasegen: are you behind a nat with an upnp router ?
[04:01] <LordDagoth> After I log on, ubuntu goes to a brownish screen and won't go any further. anyone know what the deal is?
[04:01] <bubu1uk> alpha255: to be honest dont know. started to use ubuntu only little time ago. used fedora and gentoo before
[04:02] <Bob535> Anyone know how to fix this error? E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. Doing what it says doesnt seem to do anything
[04:02] <bubu1uk> well, still using gentoo. just playin with ubuntu to see diferences
[04:02] <scrappy_> nathanial: you might see several .sh files if you paste them i can tell you which to use
[04:02] <LordDagoth> is it possible that I accidentily uninstalled gnome?
[04:02] <OtavioRibeiro> Bob535: try to remove the lock file used by apt inside /var/lock
[04:02] <Quarupted> What does no route to host mean when trying to ssh to another box on local lan?
[04:03] <garryF> Hmmm something missing from that syntax namely the iso filename placement. I would google for the mount ubuntu iso
[04:03] <nathanial> scrappy, i'm downloading now.
[04:03] <imago_> bubuluk, is there a binary for gentoo
[04:03] <AAA> Quarupted  your network is wrong
[04:03] <nathanial> scrappy_, so what is the exact process?
[04:03] <OtavioRibeiro> Bob535:it's something about the lock file... i don't remeber where it is!
[04:03] <LordDagoth> no body wants to help me?
[04:03] <OtavioRibeiro> Bob535: you must delete it
[04:03] <nathanial> scrappy_, open a terminal and navigate to the file, and then type the file name?
[04:03] <phasegen> visik7: yes, but I opened a hole just for azureus, and the indication at the bottom of the program window went from saying there was a NAT problem, to saying there was a firewall problem.
[04:03] <visik7> I wondering if ubuntu 7.04 will be out before vista :D
[04:04] <AAA> Quarupted  try using just the ip of the other computer and add -v to your ssh line
[04:04] <bubu1uk> alpha255: check this for setting up startup services. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootServices?highlight=%28service%29
[04:04] <FantasticFoo> agh, crap
[04:04] <visik7> phazeman: why don't you redirect one port and get rid of upnp ?
[04:04] <FantasticFoo> my ubuntu download froze at 635 mb
[04:04] <scrappy_> nathanial: in terminal use unzip so "unzip filename.zip" this will extract the files to your current directory
[04:04] <alpha255> bubu1uk: thanks! :)
[04:04] <FantasticFoo> it was almost there
[04:04] <OtavioRibeiro> Bob535: you close the apt without finish something? some app break?
[04:04] <Bob535> Deleted the contents
[04:04] <imago_> bubuluk, is there a binary for gentoo
[04:04] <Bob535> app broke while installing flash
[04:04] <OtavioRibeiro> Bob535: no...
[04:04] <void^> phasegen: make sure you actually use sun's jre, and if you forward ports manually, disable upnp in azureus and/or your router
[04:04] <scrappy_> nathanial: or you can doublecick on the file and use fileroller from inside gnome
[04:05] <OtavioRibeiro> Bob535: just the apt one
[04:05] <nathanial> scrappy_ fileroller?
[04:05] <nathanial> scrappy_ i'm completely new to ubuntu/linux
[04:05] <LordDagoth> After I log on, ubuntu goes to a brownish screen and won't go any further. anyone know what the deal is?
[04:05] <OtavioRibeiro> Bob535 check this file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[04:05] <scrappy_> nathanial: when you doubleclick on the it will ask if you want to open with fileroller think of it like winzip
[04:05] <Bob535> k
[04:05] <nathanial> ok
[04:06] <nathanial> scrappy_ thanks for that. When it finishes, I'll let you know.
[04:06] <scrappy_> nathanial: you have your video card setup?
[04:06] <nathanial> scrappy_ yes
[04:06] <Waterbou> Help please, I am trying to use Synaptic Package Manager and it is not recognizing my new package.  I am doing this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear  I have followed all the directions
[04:06] <OtavioRibeiro> Bob535: there is something there?
[04:06] <AAA> Quarupted  you ssh into your other box yet?
[04:06] <Bob535> just checking
[04:06] <alpha255> isn't there a command line too though for managing the rc scripts?
[04:06] <Bob535> nope empty
[04:06] <AAA> alpha255  update-rc.d -f <app> defaults|remove
[04:06] <ttyfscker> alpha255::  you used bum?
[04:06] <alpha255> ttyfscker: nope
[04:07] <imago_> what program/command can i use to extract files from a .dsk disk image
[04:07] <Pulshion> could someone help me, when i type "su" in terminal it asks me for password, i type it right but it says its wrong?
[04:07] <ttyfscker> if your just wanting to turn things on/off then its good
[04:07] <OtavioRibeiro> Bob535: there is apt in ubuntu?
[04:07] <alpha255> ttyfscker: just used the other cli tool that I can't remember right now
[04:07] <mistform> does anyone here play any PC games in Ubuntu?
[04:07] <ttyfscker> Pulshion:: sudo passwd
[04:07] <alpha255> ttyfscker: bum isn't a default installed right?
[04:07] <ttyfscker> set the passwd and then su
[04:07] <Pulshion> mistform -- i do
[04:07] <Bob535> one sec
[04:07] <Waterbou> I play marathon on Ubuntu
[04:07] <ttyfscker> alpha255:: no
[04:07] <scrappy_> mistform: native ones like id games and savage
[04:07] <OtavioRibeiro> Bob535: when using Debian.. I use apt-get -f to fix it
[04:07] <Bob535> think i got it
[04:07] <ttyfscker> alpha255:: sudo apt-get install bum
[04:07] <Pulshion> ttyfscker what does su do?
[04:07] <OtavioRibeiro> Bob535: apt-get -f install
[04:08] <alpha255> Waterbou: marathon from the old mac os 8 9 days?
[04:08] <hackel> Someone in charge want to kickban Feremi please?
[04:08] <AAA> imago_  mount -t vfat -o loop /path/to/file.dsk /dev/loop0 may work
[04:08] <LordDagoth> After I log on, ubuntu goes to a brownish screen and won't go any further. anyone know what the deal is?
[04:08] <ttyfscker> Pulshion:: su makes you become "root"   sudo means you just execute something as super user privalidged
[04:08] <Waterbou> Yes, it still has a strong online community
[04:08] <hackel> Feremi is auto-messaging everyone that enters this chanel advertising a stupid laptop for sale, please kick him.
[04:08] <Waterbou> hell even a chatroom at #alephone
[04:08] <ttyfscker> Pulshion:: root isnt enabled by default in ubuntu
[04:08] <Bob535> Its all working again Otavio
[04:08] <mistform> (n00b question alert) Is there any way to play other games? not high-tech ones, but just Morrowind or something like that
[04:08] <imago_> AAA, i hope
[04:08] <Pulshion> ttyfscker why doesnt su work then
[04:08] <alpha255> Pulshion: sudo -s
[04:08] <AAA> imago_  what type of filesystem is it?
[04:08] <Bob535> what do you mean mistform?
[04:08] <mistform> it just requires DirectX
[04:09] <ttyfscker> Pulshion:: because root doesnt have a password...
[04:09] <AAA> imago_  the loopback device rocks
[04:09] <Pulshion> ttyfscker -- oh
[04:09] <OtavioRibeiro> Bob535: what is the problem?
[04:09] <ttyfscker> Pulshion:: you have to do sudo passwd
[04:09] <Bob535> no idea, it works again
[04:09] <Quarupted> AAA: sshd is running on other machine i did ssh 192.168.1.100 and it said connection refused?
[04:09] <scrappy_> LordDagoth: you might search http://ubuntuforums.org/ for a similar problem
[04:09] <Pulshion> ttyfscker --thanx
[04:09] <ttyfscker> no prob
[04:09] <LordDagoth> alright, ill look there
[04:09] <OtavioRibeiro> Bob535: hahaha.. ok
[04:09] <mistform> is there an environment that I can use on Ubuntu to run a PC game made for Windows?
[04:09] <Bob535> mistform, you can use Cedega to act as a compatibility layer for Windows games
[04:10] <Pulshion> ttyfscker -- how do i give root a pass?
[04:10] <AAA> Quarupted  add a -v and find out why, also don't ssh as root and if you are using a different username use -l otherusername
[04:10] <Quarupted> mistform: Winew
[04:10] <AAA> Quarupted  or othername@host
[04:10] <mistform> Bob535, would you mind explaining a little bit, please :D
[04:10] <dle> Hi.  I just ran apt-get update and upgrade, and I have 67 packages waiting to be updated. However I've only seen notices for the kernel and gnupg. Does anyone know why this might be so?
[04:10] <Quarupted> mistform: Winex
[04:10] <Bob535> www.transgaming.com
[04:10] <scrappy_> mistform: cedega is subscription based unless you decide to cheat and download the torrent or something
[04:10] <Bob535> or winex if you want a free program
[04:10] <alpha255> Pulshion: for most tasks use sudo somecommand
[04:10] <ttyfscker> Pulshion:: that command i gave you will let you set the passwd for root
[04:10] <AAA> Quarupted  -v adds verbosity to the output
[04:10] <scrappy_> mistform: but its cheap and they have good support so its worth it
[04:10] <Waterbou> ok, why will Synaptic Package Manager not let me add my new packages?
[04:11] <Bob535> brb restarting
[04:11] <ikaruga> hey all, I'm looking for scribus 1.3.X for dapper. There were packages for breezy, but I can't seem to find them for dapper.
[04:11] <Pulshion> alpha255 -- yea but i need to be root
[04:11] <AAA> Waterbou  in a terminal type> sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[04:11] <ttyfscker> alpha255:: i have root enabled too.. its not bad practice..
[04:11] <alpha255> Pulshion: sudo -s gives me enough access to do almost anything I've needed
[04:11] <ttyfscker> alpha255:: ubuntu developers want to make it safe for newbie
[04:12] <ttyfscker> newbies*
[04:12] <Pulshion> alpha255 -- k thanx
[04:12] <AAA> alpha255  you can configure sudo's behaviour with visudo ;)
[04:12] <mistform> I have this thing about not paying for stuff, especially MMO's
[04:12] <Pulshion> alpha255 -- I got it now
[04:12] <Quarupted> AAA: with the -v it just says the same thing but numerous times
[04:12] <Pulshion> ttyfscker -- Thanx, i got it now
[04:12] <ttyfscker> yw
[04:12] <mistform> the only reason I bought WoW is because it was practically given to me by Alltel Wireless
[04:12] <imago_> AAA, it gave me "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0,
[04:12] <imago_>        missing codepage or other error
[04:12] <imago_>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[04:12] <imago_>        dmesg | tail  or so
[04:12] <imago_> "
[04:12] <alpha255> ttyfscker: yes, it's kinda like the way mac os x does things ... kinda
[04:12] <AAA> Quarupted  on the other box type netstat -ant and see if 22 is listed
[04:12] <mistform> an computer stuffs
[04:13] <alpha255> btw, compiz it great stuff! :)
[04:13] <alpha255> nice eye candy
[04:13] <AAA> imago_  sudo modporbe loop and try again
[04:13] <alpha255> :)
[04:13] <AAA> imago_  modprob
[04:13] <nathanial> scrappy_ looksl ike there is only on .sh file.
[04:13] <AAA> imago_  what filesystem is this? where did you get it?
[04:13] <nathanial> I can just double click it?
[04:14] <scrappy_> nathanial: yes or from terminal type "sh filename.sh"
[04:14] <nathanial> ok
[04:14] <nathanial> scrappy_ thanks so much.
[04:14] <scrappy_> nathanial: np
[04:14] <nathanial> scrappy_ just so you know, if I have problems, I'm coming to YOU!! haha
[04:14] <imago_> AAA, can you give me the exact line to enter.  i think that it is a fat. and i got it from sourceforge.net
[04:15] <AAA> imago_  do this, file file.dsk
[04:15] <AAA> imago_  and tell me what that says
[04:15] <alpha255> bum is nice :)
[04:15] <alpha255> it's a gui though
[04:15] <alpha255> is there a bum-tui?
[04:16] <alpha255> that runs from the cli
[04:16] <AAA> tool user interface
[04:16] <alpha255> ?
[04:16] <Waterbou> AAA, it gives me an error telling me it does not exist
[04:16] <alpha255> text user interface
[04:16] <alpha255> tui
[04:16] <alpha255> or ncurses  based?
[04:16] <AAA> Waterbou  what doesn't exist?
[04:16] <Quarupted> AAA:  no it wasnt just high portsd
[04:17] <imago_> AAA, x86 boot sector
[04:17] <Waterbou> the package I am trying to install, ummm...bcmwl5.sys
[04:17] <Quarupted> AAA:  What command should I use exactly to connect with ssh?
[04:17] <AAA> Quarupted  then /etc/init.d/ssh start on that box and check again, also look at the output of tail /var/log/syslog
[04:17] <imago_> AAA, it's for a program  called gag
[04:17] <AAA> Quarupted  ssh username@host
[04:18] <darthbator> hey guys I'm having an issue getting my comp to burn DVD-R data discs
[04:18] <Quarupted> AAA: oh not just ssh ip?????
[04:18] <AAA> imago_  so that program probably handles the mounting of it? did you try the command after you modprob loop ?
[04:18] <AAA> Quarupted  that works too
[04:18] <AAA> Quarupted  but sshd needs to be running on the remote box
[04:19] <imago_> aaa, i don't understand modprob loop
[04:19] <Pjott> Hey! Got problems with my xorg :S I remember someone wrote to me something like: sudo /reconfigure -xorg -xserv <-- Please correct! ;)
[04:19] <SurfnKid> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:19] <Quarupted> AAA: I thought someone just said it runs at startup by default, and a ps aux |grep sshd shows it running
[04:19] <Pjott> SurfnKid: <3
[04:20] <SurfnKid> dpkg-reconfigure is the command   xserver-xorg is the package
[04:20] <CheetahMk2> Is Unbuntu a good choice for a first Linux distro? I was mainly interested in converting an old laptop to use XGL/AIGLX.
[04:20] <nalioth> CheetahMk2: yes, it is.
[04:20] <SurfnKid> i say yes
[04:20] <floppyears> hi
[04:20] <CheetahMk2> Most of my experiments with Kororaa have been hurt by the fact I use a Mobility 7500 Radeon
[04:21] <floppyears> where can I get some good looking ubuntu branded wallpapers ?
[04:21] <Quarupted> AAA ssh cant be found in /etc/init.d/  ????
[04:21] <CheetahMk2> So I wanted to get some pointers before I tried it out.
[04:21] <Quarupted> Your telling me that Ubuntu doesnt even install sshd?
[04:22] <Quarupted> wow
[04:22] <donpachi> floppyears try gnome-look.org
[04:22] <imago_> aaa, for that modprob loop what exactly would i enter into my terminal
[04:22] <floppyears> I have
[04:22] <floppyears> so there's not an ubuntu specific website ?
[04:22] <AAA> imago_  sudo modprobe loop <--will load the loop module
[04:22] <alpha255> apt-get install ssh and/or sshd?
[04:22] <alpha255> throw in sudo before that command
[04:23] <Quarupted> AAA: Ubuntu didnt even install SSHD
[04:23] <AAA> Quarupted  netstat -ant shows port 22 listening?
[04:23] <donpachi> floppyears, not that i know of.
[04:23] <AAA> Quarupted  the sudo apt-get install ssh on that box
[04:23] <Quarupted> I have to apt-get install openssh-server right?
[04:23] <Quarupted> I have an ssh client
[04:23] <CheetahMk2> One thing: what is the minimum install size for Unbutu? the drive is a 2gb kicker I had lying around. Kororaa ran out of space during a live install - is there a minimum?
[04:23] <AAA> ii  ssh            3.8.1p1-8.sarg Secure rlogin/rsh/rcp replacement (OpenSSH)
[04:23] <Waterbou> Help again, the terminal will not let me enter my password
[04:24] <floppyears> ok, thanks
[04:24] <Quarupted> Why didnt Ubuntu install it?
[04:24] <AAA> I am not an ubuntu developer
[04:24] <AAA> and this lappy doesn't even have ubuntu installed on it, just boring old debian sarge
[04:24] <jpatota> CheetahMk2: ubuntu server is really small
[04:25] <fabio> Hi there
[04:25] <singamayya> i ripped a CD with sound juicer... how do i edit the tag information in the OGG files?
[04:25] <jpatota> CheetahMk2: that might make 2gb
[04:25] <jpatota> CheetahMk2: id be interested to fine out
[04:25] <imago_> aaa, didn't work. but it comes with a program called rawrite2.exe and that will make the bootable floppy disk that i need
[04:25] <fabio> I'm having some issues, while ubuntu is loading (before gdm) I just see flickering in my screen, not a singe line of text (LCD LG L1751S display)
[04:25] <CheetahMk2> Ok, I'll begin and see if anything breaks. I am very good with XP, but this is a first....
[04:25] <singamayya> how to edit OGG tag info?
[04:26] <jpatota> Quarupted: yeah openssh-server would allow you to shell INTO your box from another one
[04:26] <jpatota> the client actually performs the sshing
[04:27] <darthbator> hey guys I've been working on this DVD issue for a while now I can't seem to burn DVD data discs gnomebaker spits the following error at me /dev/hdc: "Current Write Speed" is 2.0x1385KBps.
[04:27] <darthbator> :-( unable to WRITE@LBA=8e0h: Input/output error
[04:27] <darthbator> :-( write failed: Input/output error
[04:27] <darthbator> /dev/hdc: flushing cache
[04:27] <darthbator> :-[ FLUSH CACHE failed with SK=2h/ASC=04h/ACQ=01h] : Resource temporarily unavailable
[04:27] <jpatota> Quarupted: and you might have to edit your sources.list if you dont have the install cd or havnt edited it out yet
[04:27] <darthbator> :-[ SYNCHRONOUS FLUSH CACHE failed with SK=2h/ASC=04h/ACQ=01h] : Resource temporarily unavailable
[04:27] <dle> singamayya: exfalso is good for that. It's in the universe rep.
[04:27] <singamayya> dle: thx
[04:27] <dle> I just ran apt-get update and upgrade, and I have 67 packages waiting to be updated. However I've only seen notices for the kernel and gnupg. Does anyone know why this might be so?  Running Dapper.
[04:28] <thejoe> anyone have problems w/ firefox freezing up, etc. after viewing flash and/or any multimedia content???
[04:28] <alpha255> anyone run across this error? configure: error: Unable to find libncurses or libcurses
[04:28] <Section12> alpha255: Did you apt-get ncurses?
[04:29] <AAA> alpha255  sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev
[04:29] <DanaG> !kernel
[04:29] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[04:29] <darthbator> you need to apt-get install ncurses and and libncurses5
[04:29] <Sasquatch> can someone kick  Feremi, i think he's spamming everyone who's entering this room
[04:29] <Chetic> not me
[04:29] <singamayya> dle: do you know any command-line programs that edit OGG tags?
[04:30] <Stormx2> XD IRC servers are so much fun. "Hmm I wonder what kline means"
[04:30] <SurfnKid> you know what all?
[04:30] <SurfnKid> i think
[04:30] <SurfnKid> UBUNTU ROCKS
[04:30] <SurfnKid> cya
[04:30] <CheetahMk2> Any red flags before I begin the install, like don't use 1 partition, or anything like that?
[04:30] <singamayya> geez.. ubuntu package search has been broken for so many months!
[04:30] <Section12> singamayya: apt-cache search
[04:31] <AAA> alpha255  after you install that, _that_ error will clear (there will be more.....)
[04:31] <dle> singamayya: I don't, off-hand.
[04:31] <Chetic> Is there a way to make a launcher run something as if it was run from a certain folder? Like if the executable I want to run requires other local resources from the same folder, it should be able to find them...
[04:31] <singamayya> Section12: thx
[04:31] <alpha255> darthbator: looks like ncurese-term wasn't installed
[04:32] <scrappy_> Chetic: i hate naut launchers.. you could just make a script
[04:32] <alpha255> darthbator: both are installed and still it gives error
[04:33] <Section12> Why the hell am I watching True Lies
[04:33] <Chetic> scrappy_, uh, how?
[04:33] <alpha255> AAA: I installed gcc gcc++ libcurses and ncurse
[04:34] <Section12> alpha255: Did you get build-essintal
[04:34] <Section12> essential
[04:34] <alpha255> yep
[04:35] <scrappy_> Chetic: just make it in gedit the first line might be like #!/bin/bash and then the next would be for something simple like cd /foldername and the next line like ./executable
[04:35] <alpha255> configure: WARNING: Unable to find libncurses   < that's weird
[04:35] <Chetic> ah yeah scrappy_ I'll try that
[04:35] <alpha255> is there  dpg -l command that will list the deb package?
[04:35] <alpha255> installed
[04:36] <yozBuntu> heh cool someone used the serial mouse tutorial i put up with success ;)
[04:36] <PORDO> oh my god...the ubuntu site is lookin awesome now.
[04:36] <yozBuntu> 'finally i got my six year old serial mouse working'
[04:37] <alpha255> libcurses4 and 5 are installed
[04:37] <alpha255> according to synaptic
[04:37] <Pjott> hmmmm
[04:37] <niall> how do i convrt bin and cue files for burning to dvd
[04:38] <DanaG> Where can I get an official Ubuntu package for kernel 2.6.17?
[04:38] <Pjott> still having problems configuring the xserver :/
[04:39] <Quarupted> Can I just start an X server for my other machine in the other room in a seperate display like F1 or F2?
[04:40] <scrappy_> niall: maybe use bchunk
 is it possible to burn them as is
[04:40] <alpha255> Quarupted: i think you can but you need to tell it the tty to start on... haven't done that in a long time...
[04:40] <Quarupted> anyone know how?
[04:41] <scrappy_> niall: well you can download cdemu to mount the bin file and then maybe navagate to the directory its mounted to and use your burning program but im not sure
[04:41] <Pjott> ok
[04:41] <Quarupted> CheetahMk2: are you serious?
[04:42] <CheetahMk2> The Kororaa liveinstall needed to be cleaned
[04:42] <Pjott> now I'm REALLY f***ed up!!!
[04:42] <Pjott> I'll try again
[04:42] <CheetahMk2> so I can install Ubuntu, but I have no idea what the Drive Manager equivalent in KDe is
[04:42] <CheetahMk2> So I just went into xterm and am clearing the drive the old fashioned way
[04:42] <niall> Can anyone else offer another opinion for burning these bin/cue files
[04:42] <alpha255> cli works
[04:43] <Quarupted> So can anyone tell me how to get the machine in the other room's X running on a seperate TTY?
[04:43] <CheetahMk2> Problem now is I don't know how to 'reformat' or 'repartition' - again, new to this Linux thing, old to XP.
[04:43] <alpha255> Quarupted: you could ssh into it and run binaries from it
[04:44] <alpha255> Quarupted: you mjight need to adjust your sshd_config file for x11 forwarding
[04:44] <Quarupted> I Want X though
[04:44] <alpha255> Quarupted: linux terminal services project might be a better route
[04:44] <Quarupted> I dun wanna tunnel I wanna run X locally for the other machine
 can io do apt-get install bchunk
[04:45] <alpha255> Quarupted: oh xdmc or something like iirc ...
[04:45] <alpha255> look at the login screen of the other machine to enable it
[04:46] <alpha255> i don't think the password is protected though
[04:46] <Pjott> At the xserver-xorg config: When I select "Resolution", and I only want 800x640 to be used, should I remove everything else, and only mark 800x600 with a star (*), or select everything exept 800x640 ?
[04:46] <alpha255> it
[04:46] <alpha255> 's sent in clear text
[04:46] <niall> anyone know a simple way how to burn bin/cue files in ubuntu
[04:46] <yozBuntu> woa
[04:46] <yozBuntu> niall ?
[04:46] <dylan_> Has anyone noticed that Ubiquity fails to create a file system after formatting?
[04:46] <dylan_> the Live CD does nto work for me.
[04:46] <alpha255> Pjott: that would force that resolution
[04:46] <dylan_> Is there a way to fix it?
[04:46] <Pjott> alpha255: That's what I want
[04:46] <yozBuntu> not the same niall i'm thinking of i guess ;)
 trying to burn a movie i got which came down as one bin file and one cue file
[04:47] <alpha255> Pjott: i just remembered that that could be done
[04:47] <RoninGurl> I'm getting really low audio volume with mp3s on my Soundblaster Audigy.
[04:47] <Pjott> cuz if not, the screen goes black...
[04:47] <yozBuntu> niall, sorry i haven't done any CD recording under linux/ubuntu yet.
[04:47] <niall> nm
[04:47] <Pjott> so: I should remove everything else, and only mark 800x640 ?
[04:47] <dylan_> Hello?
[04:48] <alpha255> Pjott: first make a back up of that file
[04:48] <yozBuntu> niall, i'd be surprised if there wasn't a cd recording software for linux that understands bin+cue
[04:48] <dylan_> Does anyone else have the same file system error?
[04:48] <alpha255> just in case
[04:48] <yozBuntu> that was a very popular way to do it for a long time
[04:48] <dle> niall: k3b might. Not sure, but it might.
[04:48] <alpha255> brb
[04:48] <niall>  <dle> doesnt recognise the file
[04:49] <dylan_> Ubiquity messed up at creating a file system.  Does anyone else know how to fix this or solve this?
[04:49] <dylan_> It fails
[04:49] <dle> niall: Rats.
[04:49] <scrappy_> the standard is to convert to iso. mplayer can play cue files directly but that sort of thing is the exception
[04:50] <Pjott> DAMNIT!!!
[04:50] <Pjott> sorry :S
[04:50] <Pjott> alpha255: Still the same :/
[04:50] <alpha255> drat
[04:50] <Stormx2> This may seem an odd question to you folks, but if your a Network Admin on an irc server, how do you make someone chanop in a certain channel?
[04:50] <flodine> niall ive been trying to burn these files to
[04:50] <Pjott> I've got: ATI Radeon 9600 Pro Atlantis, and Hitachi CM823F 21" CRT-Monitor. It should handle the 24-bits color-deeph, right?
[04:51] <DanaG> Where can I get an official Ubuntu package for kernel 2.6.17?
[04:51] <alpha255> Pjott: should
[04:51] <Tsukino> a 9600 Pro should handle 32 bit color
[04:51] <Pjott> maby that's the problem... ^:/
[04:51] <Pjott> i know...
[04:51] <alpha255> Pjott: did you install the accellerated drivers?
[04:51] <bruenig> Stormx, you may want to ask one of the ops here
[04:51] <Pjott> alpha255: Please define
[04:51] <threeonefour> aaa, what does this command do   dd if=/home/555/Desktop/gag46/disk.dsk of=/dev/fd0 bs=512 count=2880
[04:51] <Pjott> <-- noob ;)
[04:51] <flodine> niall you get it
[04:52] <micahcowan> !ati
[04:52] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:52] <micahcowan> Pjott, ^^ explains how to install the accelerated drivers.
[04:52] <scrappy_> threeonefour: that writes the image to a floppy
[04:52] <micahcowan> (proprietary)
[04:52] <alejandro> Hello Everyone. I am from venezuela, i am new to ubuntu
[04:52] <alpha255> Pjott: it can be a steep learning curve at first take it easy on yourself :)
downloaded bchunk trying to figure it out still
[04:52] <threeonefour> thank you scrappy
[04:52] <Pjott> alpha255: But it worked before :/
[04:52] <alpha255> Pjott: hummm
[04:53] <Pjott> I've had Ubuntu before, I had the same problem(s), I did the same way, but noooo...
[04:53] <threeonefour> scrappy_ what about this   cat /home/555/Desktop/gag46/disk.dsk > /dev/fd0
[04:53] <ardchoille> Stormx2: I use  /msg chanserv op #channel nick  to op and  /msg chanserv op #channel -nick  to deop
[04:53] <Chetic> How do you make Wine not use Gnome's window decoration?
[04:53] <scrappy_> threeonefour: well in theory it would do the same thing im just not sure it it would work that easily
[04:53] <flodine> niall those bin and cue files are not just for movies thee also programes like adobe
[04:53] <scrappy_> threeonefour: but it should
[04:53] <Stormx2> Ah ok. See I don't have a chanserv at the moment ^.^
[04:54] <believer_> As Salaam e laikum (means: Peace b with u) . http://www.submission.org/ ... Your source for Islam (submission) on the internet.
[04:54] <threeonefour> scrappy_ i'll let you know in about 15 min
[04:54] <believer_> [112:0]  In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
[04:54] <Quarupted> How do I enable Xdmc Serving from my machine?
[04:54] <believer_> [112:1]  Proclaim, "He is the One and only GOD.
[04:54] <believer_> [112:2]  "The Absolute GOD.
[04:54] <believer_> [112:3]  "Never did He beget. Nor was He begotten.
 yeah i know, dont understand why they leave them like this for download
[04:54] <believer_> [112:4]  "None equals Him."
[04:54] <dle> fuck oof bleiever
[04:54] <micahcowan> !language > dle
[04:54] <bruenig> !ops
[04:54] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[04:55] <Stormx2> Can you please ban believer_ too?
[04:55] <RoninGurl> im getting unbarably low volume levels with a soundblaster audigy card using mp3 codecs from gstreamer on Ubuntu 6.06LTS
[04:55] <micahcowan> I didn't mean dle... :-)
[04:55] <bruenig> that is who I wanted to be banned
[04:55] <Stormx2> Thanks DBO <3
[04:55] <niall> anyone know of a channel that would be able to deal with converting bin cue files
[04:55] <nalioth> micahcowan: harsh language toward others is not very civil
[04:55] <micahcowan> I didn't use /any/ harsh language.
[04:55] <bruenig> google does pretty good on that niall
[04:55] <nalioth> niall: install 'binchunker' or 'bchunk'
[04:55] <renesis> hi, me again... im trying to make ubuntu into a lean dedicated machine controll box, 200mhz amd... before i start hacking up the init scripts to kill of uneccesary daemon, is there some sort of easy ubuntu init manager?
[04:56] <micahcowan> in fact, I warned dle about his...
[04:56] <nalioth> micahcowan: but dle did
[04:56] <alejandro> I know somehow...
[04:56] <micahcowan> but usually you don't get banned for first offense...
[04:56] <renesis> or all of you rock your 1000 universal for every system daemons?
[04:56] <Quarupted> Anyone know how to enable XDMC serving?
[04:56] <DBO> micahcowan, dle didnt just use harsh language, he used it to personally insult someone, hes gone
[04:56] <crimsun> RoninGurl: pastebin your ``amixer'' output
[04:56] <Pjott> Should I use "Kernel Framebuffer....." ?
 installed bchunk, how does it launch or what do i do with it
[04:57] <Pjott> Sorry for ALOT of asking :S heh...
[04:57] <renesis> drama, nice
[04:57] <micahcowan> gotcha.
[04:57] <nalioth> niall: in a terminal, type "bchunk --help"
[04:57] <renesis> daemon init apps, anyone?
[04:57] <bruenig> niall, probably is a command line program, try man bchunk or bchunk --help
[04:57] <micahcowan> believer_ was somewhat asking for it, though (but I totally agree it was inappropriate)
[04:57] <renesis> the prefered way is to hax0r init scripts?
[04:57] <bruenig> believer_ was a bot clearly
[04:58] <nalioth> micahcowan: can we discuss this in #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[04:58] <Aberrant22> renesis:  I like my daemons.  They make me happy.
[04:58] <Quarupted> hello....?
[04:58] <renesis> nice
[04:58] <renesis> i dont
[04:58] <Quarupted> XDMC???
[04:58] <renesis> i need my mem for real stuff =] 
[04:58] <scrappy_> renesis: i normally just 'update-rc.d -f scriptname remove' about half the stuff in there..
[04:58] <micahcowan> I don't need to discuss it any more: I'm fine with him having been banned (just slightly surprised, was all).
[04:58] <renesis> scrappy_: ty
 is there no graphical way of converting them
[04:58] <renesis> scrappy_: didnt know the syntax on a deb based system
[04:58] <CheetahMk2> Hohoho..... Ubuntu has Memtest built in... clever.
[04:59] <Aberrant22> renesis: Yeah...sorry, just a desktop user.
[04:59] <RoninGurl> crimsun, ok, does that need sudo?
[04:59] <scrappy_> renesis: thats the most common way of removing the sym links
[04:59] <renesis> heh
[04:59] <bruenig> niall, I don't know much about bin and cue files except that they have some relation to vcds and that they play in vlc, other than that nothing
[04:59] <renesis> rc-update del [package]  [runlevel] 
[04:59] <CheetahMk2> Aren't they binary images of a CD? At least on Win they are.
[04:59] <renesis> GENTOOO WOOOOOOOO!
[04:59] <renesis> kbye
[04:59] <crimsun> RoninGurl: no.
 do u know if they will work on xbox 360
[05:00] <bruenig> renesis, I remember some command line program that allows you to do what you want to do, it was on some howto in the forums
[05:00] <ardchoille> sysv-rc-conf ?
[05:00] <ardchoille> That's what I use
[05:00] <ardchoille> !info sysv-rc-conf
[05:00] <ubotu> sysv-rc-conf: SysV init runlevel configuration tool for the terminal. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.99-3 (dapper), package size 23 kB, installed size 104 kB
[05:01] <digitalpenguin> whats the new ubuntu comming out in oct
[05:01] <Quarupted> Does anyone tell me how to enable XDMC serving???
[05:01] <Pjott> I swet like hell here >:(
[05:01] <ardchoille> digitalpenguin: Edgy Eft
[05:01] <Pjott> Right now, I could throw my PC out of the "Windows"
[05:02] <bruenig> renesis, also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InitNG
[05:02] <CheetahMk2> er... this can't be good.. "error reading from boot CD" when running the ISO I just downloaded...
[05:02] <Aberrant22> I think renesis has quit aready
[05:02] <Blinker> !sources
[05:02] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:02] <DanaG> Okay, how about, instead of where, I'll ask:  WHEN can I get an official Ubuntu package for kernel 2.6.17?  I need this kernel to get a fixed frequency/voltage table for my Yonah.
[05:03] <Blinker> !ati
[05:03] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:04] <alpha255> configure: error: Unable to find libncurses or libcurses
[05:04] <alpha255> i have build-essentials installed
[05:04] <alpha255> i have ncurses installed
[05:04] <nalioth>  alpha255 you'll also need libncurses*-dev
[05:04] <alpha255> i have libncurses
[05:04] <alpha255> dev aaah
[05:05] <bruenig> you probably should get build-essential, I am not even sure build-essentials is a package
[05:05] <alpha255> got build-essential thnx
[05:05] <bruenig> lol
[05:06] <mitrovarr> something I'm trying to compile requested gl.h (opengl headers).  Any idea what package that's in?
[05:06] <alpha255> nalioth: you rock! Thanks ! :)
[05:06] <CheetahMk2> Hm... I just redownloaded/reburnt the Ubuntu Dekstop install ISO, and I get the same problem... is this a bug?
[05:06] <CheetahMk2> "Error reading form boot CD"
[05:06] <Pjott> alpha255: There. Re-booting after following the "!ati" tutorial after dot-and-slash
[05:06] <nalioth> !tell mitrovarr about apt-file
[05:06] <ardchoille> CheetahMk2: How many files are on the disk you burned?
[05:07] <nalioth> CheetahMk2: did you verify the integrity and burn at 4x or less?
[05:07] <mitrovarr> !aptfile > mitrovarr
[05:07] <Pjott> CheetahMk2: Download a new copy of Ubuntu, and burn at slow speed
[05:07] <ubotu> I know nothing about aptfile  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:07] <mitrovarr> !apt-file > mitrovarr
[05:07] <Pjott> HORRAY FOR alpha255!!! :D
[05:07] <micahcowan> mitrovarr, try <bang>info aptfile?
[05:07] <nalioth> mitrovarr: um, check your private messages
[05:07] <micahcowan> :)
[05:07] <mitrovarr> thanks
[05:07] <DanaG> !2.6.16
[05:07] <mitrovarr> they're sneaky on xchat, you don't notice them
[05:07] <ubotu> I know nothing about 2.6.16 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:07] <_Jae> Anyone: Any ideas how I can get my X-Windows working again without having to do a full reinstall? I just tried to do the "Official" Dapper Drake install method for Nvidia drivers (non-legacy). Aaaaaand when I try to boot up, X-Windows (Xorg I think more specficially) is hosed.
[05:07] <DanaG> !2.6.17
[05:07] <ubotu> I know nothing about 2.6.17 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:07] <jackinthebox> ok, my friend has some files on a Mac OS extended(journaled) external hard drive
[05:08] <jackinthebox> is there any way to get it?
[05:08] <bruenig> lol, he tried a kernel version number
[05:08] <bruenig> wow
[05:08] <Pjott> see you all when I'm @ Linux!
[05:08] <_Jae> Jack: yup. Shared files.
[05:08] <nalioth> kameron: sure, just mount it as filesystem type 'hfsplus'
[05:08] <_Jae> >.>
[05:08] <CheetahMk2>  ardchoille   487 files, 97 folders (in windows)
[05:08] <nalioth> jackinthebox:  sure, just mount it as filesystem type 'hfsplus'
[05:08] <DanaG> Okay, does Ubuntu have any of their own patches, or would it be safe to go with the kernel.org version?
[05:08] <jackinthebox> nalioth: how to?
[05:08] <ardchoille> CheetahMk2: ok, I just wanted to make sure you burned it as an image instead of burning the ISO to cd as a file
[05:09] <CheetahMk2> 696 MB (730,410,985 bytes)
[05:09] <digitalpenguin> poddo: hey pod you here
[05:09] <CheetahMk2> Oh, I thought you wanted a bytecount
[05:09] <CheetahMk2> Can you give me a CRC32 of the ISO image?
[05:09] <nalioth> jackinthebox: there is a script around here somewhere to mount them automatically
[05:09] <poddo> digitalpenguin, hey
[05:09] <CheetahMk2> There is no MD5 hash listed
[05:09] <mitrovarr> thanks guys
[05:09] <digitalpenguin> poddo:send me a query
[05:09] <nalioth> CheetahMk2: you get it from the download page
[05:09] <_Jae> Guess i'm reinstalling. Damn. I hope I can get the network back up.
[05:09] <CheetahMk2> nevermind, found the MD5s
[05:09] <CheetahMk2> yeah, I just saw it at the bottom
[05:10] <poddo> a query?
[05:10] <digitalpenguin>  /query digitalpenguin
[05:10] <marshall__> hey guys
[05:11] <marshall__> is there anybody here who knows how to deal with fstab?
[05:11] <nalioth> jackinthebox:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[05:11] <marshall__> who could maybe help me out
[05:11] <bruenig> !fstab
[05:11] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[05:11] <nalioth> marshall__: someone might, if you asked a question
[05:11] <poddo> digitalpenguin, i did
[05:12] <digitalpenguin> poddo: ok one sec
[05:12] <CheetahMk2> Well, the MD5 sums are the same... maybe the CD drive is shot : /
[05:12] <_Jae> *sigh*
[05:12] <whatsnfs> hi everyone, I think I'm stuck with Ubuntu network shares and I don't even know how to google it: is samba the best way to share files even between 2 ubuntu machines?
[05:12] <Blinker> whats up alienseer23
[05:12] <_Jae> Aaaaand here I go reinstalling. Damn you, Nvidia. Damn you.
[05:12] <nalioth> CheetahMk2: did you burn at 4x or less?
[05:12] <alienseer23> help! I screwed up my xorg config ile and can't get x to load
[05:12] <alpha255> whatsnfs: you can use ssh
[05:13] <Blinker> ouch
[05:13] <digitalpenguin> poddo: check your query lost
[05:13] <digitalpenguin> list*
[05:13] <scrappy_> alejandro: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:13] <nalioth> whatsnfs: the NFS filesystem is native to Unix (ubuntu is considered Unix)
[05:13] <_Jae> alienseer23: Yeah, me too. Join the crowd.
[05:13] <nalioth> whatsnfs: if you are planning on sharing with windows machines, use samba
[05:13] <scrappy_> alienseer23: see above
[05:13] <poddo> digitalpenguin, i dont see it
[05:13] <_Jae> Ooo...
[05:13] <CheetahMk2> Well, I'll reburn it and see. I'm pretty sure it is the CD drive crapping out.
[05:13] <whatsnfs> nalioth: but I don't even see NFS in the sharing options
[05:13] <_Jae> Hold that thought, scrappy_...
[05:13] <alienseer23> the sudo dpkg thingie?
[05:13] <scrappy_> alienseer23: yes
[05:13] <nalioth> !tell whatsnfs about nfs
[05:13] <digitalpenguin> poddo: o well
[05:13] <alienseer23> that's what I call god timing! thanks!
[05:14] <digitalpenguin> poddo: ill try it later
[05:14] <whatsnfs> thank you...
[05:14] <marshall__> i have 2 cd drives, one a dual layer dvd writer and the other a dvd rom,  im trying to copy a movie from the dvd rom to a blank dvd in the dvd writer but the drive containing the movie (DVD ROM) doesnt appear in 'Computer'
[05:14] <poddo> digitalpenguin, weird
[05:14] <_Jae> scrappy_: may solve MY issue, too
[05:14] <bruenig> !tell bruenig about partitions
[05:14] <mainer> CheetahMk2: burn it as 9660r,worked for me,when tao-mode ,dao did not
[05:14] <ardchoille> poddo , digitalpenguin : one of you can do /join #digitalpenguin  or  /join #poddo  and have the other meet you there :)
[05:14] <CheetahMk2> Hm... let me test that.
[05:15] <CheetahMk2> My program just urns ISO's flat out though... no options
[05:15] <nalioth> CheetahMk2: choose another program
[05:15] <_Jae> Anyone know how to twist Blizzard's nipples and force them to hyperthread WoW? ;)
[05:16] <marshall__> nalioth: can you help me?
[05:16] <CheetahMk2> 1.) Farm gold 2.) Be a NE rogue
[05:16] <CheetahMk2> Oh wait, you want to twist THEIR nipples
[05:16] <nalioth> marshall__: did you read the URLs that showed up in this channel?
[05:16] <_Jae> Heheh. Yeah.
[05:16] <mitrovarr> that was odd
[05:16] <_Jae> I can't even get the darn thing to install.
[05:16] <ballpointcarrot> _Jae: get a long pair of pliers, and...
[05:16] <_Jae> Heehee.
[05:16] <nalioth> CheetahMk2: _Jae please take that to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:16] <mitrovarr> gl.h was supposed to be part of mesa-common-dev, which I had installed, but it was missing
[05:16] <_Jae> I'm kiddin'.
[05:16] <CheetahMk2> Sorry.
[05:16] <_Jae> Sorry.
[05:16] <mitrovarr> reinstallation fixed it, but still, that's some sort of bug there
[05:17] <anonymeeee> cups admin isn't letting me add a printer, not accepting my username and password
[05:17] <scrappy_> anonymeeee: youre trying to access localhost:631 ?
[05:17] <marshall__> nalioth: yeah
[05:18] <nalioth> marshall__: if you ask us a specific question, we might can answer
[05:18] <mister_roboto_> i just installed "apt-file" since hearing about it on here but it doesn't seem to work. shouldn't "apt-file list zip" show the zip package contents, for example? nothing happens at all when i run the command
[05:18] <nalioth> mister_roboto_: first, run "sudp apt-file update"
[05:18] <marshall__> nalioth: i already did
[05:18] <CheetahMk2>  nalioth   I'm going to try Daemon tools and CCD... if this doesn't work, it's the hardware.
[05:18] <marshall__> nalioth: i have 2 cd drives, one a dual layer dvd writer and the other a dvd rom,  im trying to copy a movie from the dvd rom to a blank dvd in the dvd writer but the drive containing the movie (DVD ROM) doesnt appear in 'Computer'
[05:18] <mister_roboto_> nalioth: ahhh, thanks
[05:19] <markedwards> hi, I just installed the netatalk package from source in order to enable SSL, which worked fine, but now the GUI complains about needing to upgrade
[05:19] <nalioth> marshall__: type in a terminal, "sudo fdkisk -l" and see if you can see both dvd drives in the output
[05:19] <mitrovarr> anyways, I thought it was unusual enough to mention it.  Thanks again for the help
[05:19] <marshall__> nalioth: ok
[05:19] <miyako> hi, I was wondering if someone could offer some help.  I'm trying to install Kubuntu, and I'm running the installer from the live CD.
[05:19] <markedwards> is there some way to say, "hey, I installed this from source to customize it, don't bug me unless there is a new version to install from source"
[05:19] <miyako> I'm trying to set up the partition table, but things are acting kinda funny.
[05:19] <anonymeeee> scrappy; yes
[05:20] <marshall__> nalioth: no, they don't show up
[05:20] <nalioth> miyako: can you give us some more info?
[05:20] <nalioth> marshall__: neither one?
[05:20] <_Jae> Man that dpkg-reconfigure thingy takes some doin'... I just hope using nvidia and then defaults from there works!
[05:20] <scrappy_> anonymeeee: are you a member of lpadmin group? im not sure if thats it but it seems likely
[05:20] <marshall__> nalioth: no, neither of them show
[05:21] <mistform> what should I download, the Source or Binary?  which is easier to install?
[05:21] <_Jae> We'll find out in just a second. Even with my POS 1.35GhZ/256MB RAM computer Ubuntu boots surprisingly fast.
[05:21] <anonymeeee> how do I check?
[05:21] <_Jae> Binary.
[05:21] <nalioth> marshall__: in your terminal, type "mount"
[05:21] <eleazar123> hey guys, is there a guide for installing unstable programs in ubuntu?
[05:21] <micahcowan> markedwards, unfortunately, the packaging system doesn't know what's been installed from source, which is why compiling from source is usually discouraged.
[05:21] <_Jae> mistform: binary
[05:21] <scrappy_> anonymeeee: from a terminal type "groups" it will respond with all the groups that user is a member of
[05:21] <nalioth> eleazar123: you might want to ask in #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-classroom
[05:21] <marshall__> nalioth: ok, done
[05:21] <mistform> yeah, I found the Binary instructions
[05:21] <nalioth> marshall__: did you see them there?
[05:21] <micahcowan> markedwards, when it must be done, it's usually advisable to actually create a source package from it (which is a bit of work, if you're not used to it). In cases like yours, you'd also want to tweak the version a bit so it wouldn't get automatically overwritten.
[05:22] <mistform> it requires me to make a custom repository
[05:22] <marshall__> nalioth: no
[05:22] <jonykal> hi
[05:22] <_Jae> And it failed. dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org failed. Trying again.
[05:22] <Pjott> funny... :/
[05:22] <markedwards> micahcowan: I did create a source package, and installed from the .deb
[05:22] <anonymeeee> scrappy: I am indeed a member of the lpadmin group
[05:22] <Pjott> I can't write (A) <-- That's "at"
[05:22] <jonykal> please help me with this bcm43xx thing!!!
[05:22] <nalioth> marshall__: type "sudo lshw|less" and scan the output for your drives
[05:23] <mistform> jonykal, talk to me
[05:23] <_jacky_> hi, all, i have custom a edgy cd, but when i use it for install, some packages can't be installed, what's wrong?
[05:23] <nalioth> !tell jonykal about broadcom
[05:23] <marshall__> nalioth: ok
[05:23] <scrappy_> anonymeeee: and from your browser you can get to like 127.0.0.1:631 right?
[05:23] <markedwards> michacowan: what should I add to the version so that it shuts up until there's really a new version?
[05:23] <scrappy_> anonymeeee: what error are you getting?
[05:23] <anonymeeee> scrappy: yes I can
[05:23] <mistform> jonykal, use this link, it helped me. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[05:23] <mistform> everyone should see that link
[05:23] <fabio> I'm having some issues, while ubuntu is loading (before gdm) I just see flickering in my screen, not a singe line of text (LCD LG L1751S display)
[05:24] <eleazar123> nalioth, oh, i didn't realize it was offtopic :\ sry
[05:24] <fabio> any ideas?
[05:24] <jonykal> mistform: why do i keep getting sudo iwlist eth1 scan
[05:24] <jonykal> eth1      No scan results
[05:24] <alienseer23> ok, do I have to reboot to enable x now??
[05:24] <micahcowan> markedwards, You want to tweak the version; perhaps use a ~ instead of the - before XubuntuX (in the changelog, I believe...).
[05:24] <Pjott> Why can't i write "alfa-a"... If you understand :) ... "at" blabla(at)hotmail.com
[05:25] <_Jae> scrappy_: second try with all defaults seems to have fixed it. Thanks a bunch!
[05:25] <alienseer23> how do I turn x on, please? from the console?
[05:25] <|thunder> starx
[05:25] <CheetahMk2> startx?
[05:25] <nalioth> alienseer23: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[05:25] <CheetahMk2> X :1 ?
[05:25] <scrappy_> alienseer23: a number of ways but default is sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:25] <alienseer23> startx worked
[05:26] <anonymeeee> scrappy:not getting an error, just brings the username password box back up one time then when I attempt a different password combo, it gives me a blank screen
[05:26] <alienseer23> thank you :)
[05:26] <_Jae> alienseer23: I usually just hit ctrl-alt-del
[05:26] <_Jae> heehee.
[05:26] <jonykal> mistform:  is this command to get a list of availiable networks?
[05:26] <markedwards> micahcowan: okay, so if I put ~ instead of - in netatalk_2.0.3-3ubuntu1_i386.changes, it will get overridden when the version goes beyond 2.0.3?
[05:26] <EpP> I have an ubuntu cd... but i want to use kubuntu. Is there a way to install it and then get rid of ubuntu(gnome)? I tried to just get a kubuntu cd but in on a mac and it wont burn right on a pc.
[05:26] <CheetahMk2> Why would X server crash only in fullscreen mode, but work if I called it from *within* another X session in windowed mode?
[05:27] <scrappy_> anonymeeee: they disabled access to cups in breezy i thought they must have fixed in dapper but maybe i enabled and forgot about it one sec
[05:27] <Chetic> How do you make the PC-speaker stop BEEPING ALL THE FREAKIN TIME?!
[05:27] <CheetahMk2> e.g. startx :1 -> X :4 (creates a small window and works) versus X :0 ?
[05:27] <nalioth> EpP: you can burn any iso for any platform on a PC, just verify your iso image and burn at 4x or less
[05:28] <bruenig> Chectic, if they are system beeps, you can go to System>Preferences>Sound and turn them off. I turned all of that off
[05:28] <Pjott> Chetic: Open your cabinet, and drag out the wire that goes from your FREAKIN' speaker to your mother-board
[05:28] <alpha255> nite all
[05:28] <Pjott> Believe me... I HATE the speaker myself!!!
[05:28] <mistform> jonykal, do you have your wireless network working?
[05:28] <Pjott> Good Night, alpha255! :D
[05:28] <micahcowan> markedwards, I think you actually want to use that version string in debian/changes... and yes, I believe version compares are ASCIIbetical.
[05:28] <jonykal> mistform: yup
[05:28] <ballpointcarrot> CheetahMk2: probably an X config issue: type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and follow that.
[05:28] <marshall__> nalioth: yeah they are both in there
[05:28] <mistform> so what problem are you having?
[05:28] <Blinker> does anyone know if ATI X-series drivers will work just as well for the M-series?
[05:29] <EpP> nalioth, i did...
[05:29] <CheetahMk2> I think fglrx drivers only down as old as the 9500 series
[05:29] <jonykal> mistform: i cant detect anything with sudo iwlist ethX scan
[05:29] <phargle> is there some command i can run so that when i sudo i get tab-completion for filenames i dont normally have access to?
[05:29] <RoninGurl> How do you minimize Rhythmbox to the notification area of gnome panel again?
[05:29] <CheetahMk2> My Mobility 7500 only works with the DRI ones
[05:29] <nalioth> marshall__: then you need to ask how to mount them
[05:29] <_Jae> Does anyone know a way I can log into an SMB-enabled iMac running OS X from Ubuntu with a different username/password?
[05:29] <jonykal> mistform: i get No scan results
[05:29] <Commander-Crowe> Is it possible to remove some of the "SWAP" space and put it into my filesystems Partition?
[05:29] <bruenig> RoninGurl, Click on the notification area icon and it will minimize to it instead of the task bar
[05:29] <nalioth> Commander-Crowe: use gparted from an Ubuntu liveCd
[05:30] <Chetic> Pjott, no thanks for no tip
[05:30] <RoninGurl> bruenig, thank you.
[05:30] <Commander-Crowe> will it do anything unatural to my partition?
[05:30] <marshall__> nalioth: thanks
[05:30] <Pjott> Chetic: ?
[05:30] <jaggz-> how do I burn a music cd instead of a data cd?
[05:30] <phargle> ill do naught things to your partition
[05:30] <marshall__> does anybody know how i can mount my dvd drives?
[05:30] <jaggz-> like I pop up the file-browser and it has the blank cd there and I can drag things to it.. I want to drag an MP3 we just made
[05:31] <mistform> jonykal, use a manager, like Network Manager or Wifi-Radar
[05:31] <nalioth> Commander-Crowe: not if you think logically
[05:31] <Commander-Crowe> ok
[05:31] <Pjott> Why can't I write: "@" ? I'm from Norway, By The Way
[05:31] <mistform> just use sudo apt-get install Network-manager or wifi-radar
[05:31] <Commander-Crowe> its a logical partition not a primary
[05:32] <scrappy_> anonymeeee: you cant access System > Administration > Printing either or just cups server directly
[05:32] <jonykal> mistform: this one? http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/
[05:32] <bruenig> jaggz-, I believe there are a host of apps that do that. Serpentine Audio Cd creator or whatever it is called is in the default set of packages for ubuntu
[05:32] <marshall__> why are you such a jerk nalioth
[05:32] <fabio> I'm having some issues, while ubuntu is loading (before gdm) I just see flickering in my screen, not a singe line of text (LCD LG L1751S display with a VIA S3 Unichrome card)... any ideas?
[05:32] <mistform> yeah, but use your command line to get it
[05:32] <nalioth> marshall__: ?
[05:33] <_Jae> jonykal: have you tried apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[05:33] <_Jae> ?
[05:33] <mistform> jonkal: terminal is so much easier ;)
[05:33] <marshall__> nalioth: youre here telling people to think logically and acting arrogant
[05:33] <scrappy_> anonymeeee: sorry got to go if you continue to have problems google for breezy cups 127.0.0.1:631 or something the steps to setup access should be about the same
[05:33] <markedwards> micahcowan: do you mean debian/changelog?  the topmost item in that file?
[05:33] <marshall__> nalioth: this channel is for support
[05:33] <Zambezi> Is XChat an unsecure client?
[05:34] <Pjott> hmm..? :S
[05:34] <Pjott> Someone :S
[05:34] <nalioth> marshall__: you can berate me in #ubuntu-offtopic if you wish
[05:34] <CheetahMk2>  ballpointcarrot   It says "Failed to start the X server (your graphical interface)." When I look at the log, it says "fatal server error: no screens found"
[05:34] <bruenig> unsecure, in linux?
[05:34] <CheetahMk2> Even though I see the screen right there in xorg.conf
[05:34] <marshall__> nalioth: not for people to come and act like jerks to others
[05:34] <phargle> is it possible to have tab completion for files i dont normally have access to?  for when sudo'ing
[05:34] <_Jae> CheetahMk2: It happened to me too. Try scrappy's suggestion: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:35] <_Jae> Just go with full defaults.
[05:35] <RoninGurl> phargle, i think you would have to SU first.
[05:35] <_Jae> :)
[05:35] <micahcowan> markedwards, yes... I believe that's what I'd had to do before (checking it on a package, atm).
[05:35] <CheetahMk2> weird part, it says "command not found"
[05:35] <ballpointcarrot> CheetahMk2: put your /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /etc/X11/xorg.conf in pastebin - i'll take a look at it.
[05:35] <babyhusband> Has anyone in here gotten broadcom wirless ethernets to work with ubuntu 6?
[05:35] <nalioth> !sudo
[05:35] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:35] <Pjott> Why can't I write "@" ? :S I'm from Norway, my keyboard is set to "Norwegian" etc.
[05:35] <h8red> I've been having a problem that hasn't been solved all day, I can't seem to access a drive, even though it is vfat, it will not open in file browser and gives me this error: error: device /dev/hdb1 is not removable
[05:35] <h8red> error: could not execute pmount, any help?
[05:35] <CheetahMk2> heh, I'll have to type it in manually, I'm at my desktop.
[05:35] <CheetahMk2> nano ... *sigh*
[05:35] <Pjott> Nano is the KING :D
[05:36] <bruenig> i like nano
[05:36] <Aberrant22> Pastebin is acting slooowwwww
[05:36] <marshall__> can anybody help me fix my fstab file? a lot of things aren't right with it and it needs some streightening out.
[05:36] <_Jae> Oh, CheetahMk2: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:36] <bruenig> !tell marshall__ about fstab
[05:36] <_Jae> Sorry. Forgot the sudo bit.
[05:36] <markedwards> micahcowan: my god that's annoying.  trying it now.  thanks!
[05:36] <micahcowan> markedwards, yes, that should work (just tried it on the "hello" package).
[05:36] <marshall__> bruenig: i read that already, thanks though
[05:37] <bruenig> !google
[05:37] <ubotu> google is a very popular search engine, http://www.google.com
[05:37] <CheetahMk2> yeah, "dpkg-reconfigure: command not found". I'm logged in as root.
[05:37] <CheetahMk2> Gr.... maye I should use an older version
[05:37] <Zambezi> Aberrant22, Try pastebin.ca
[05:37] <Aberrant22> !flash
[05:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:37] <nalioth> CheetahMk2: you need more than dpkg-reconfigure.  you need a module name behind it
[05:38] <CheetahMk2>  nalioth   That happsn when I type "dkpg-reconfigure xergver-xorg"
[05:38] <CheetahMk2> er.... you know
[05:38] <nalioth> !tell CheetahMk2 about xcfg
[05:38] <bruenig> nalioth, but it still would recognize the command wouldn't it, it would say that it wasn't carried out properly with the right arguments but it would recognize it
[05:38] <nalioth> bruenig: it should.
[05:38] <CheetahMk2> Ok, GPM restarted just fine.
[05:38] <rgie> hi
[05:39] <aujordanh> fistandantilus, rythymbox doesn't move files from ipod to hdd does it?!ubotu
[05:39] <aujordanh> !ubotu
[05:39] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[05:39] <bruenig> !tell nalioth about xmms-wmdiscotux
[05:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about xmms-wmdiscotux - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:39] <rgie> is there a packages on ubuntu which i can capture the screen
[05:39] <CheetahMk2> Aha! "XDM restart" crashes. "There already appears to be an X server
[05:39] <bruenig> !xmms-wmdiscotux
[05:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about xmms-wmdiscotux - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:39] <rgie> like screencasting
[05:39] <bruenig> !info xmms-wmdiscotux
[05:39] <ubotu> xmms-wmdiscotux: Tux dancing to the music played by xmms. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.3-3 (dapper), package size 45 kB, installed size 196 kB
[05:39] <CheetahMk2> nm, smashing Alt+Ctrl+Backspace a couple times
[05:39] <bruenig> that solves everyone's problems
[05:40] <len> Hi, what's the command to reconfigure xorg.conf?
[05:40] <len> !xorg
[05:40] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:40] <bruenig> len, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:40] <len> bruenig: thx
[05:40] <CheetahMk2> Ok.. running /etc/init.d/xdm restart the screen flashes checkerboard with a watch in it three times then goes to the "Failed to start X server" dialog.
[05:40] <Slasher> bah!, I still can't get ubuntu installed, on the live dvd boot it goes to configuring drivers and then panics with "not syncing: fatal exception in interrupt
[05:40] <nalioth> !tell len about xcfg
[05:41] <bruenig> len don't forget to take a look at xmms-wmdiscotux, it works wonders on xorg.conf
[05:41] <ardchoille> we need to have the command "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" entered into the bot as a factoid.. !xconf or something.
[05:41] <CheetahMk2> I'm going to get a cup of coffee and try it again. Thanks for the help so far.
[05:41] <nalioth> !xcfg
[05:41] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:41] <nalioth> oh wtf
[05:41] <aujordanh> is compix/xgl worth the work?? does it streamline work or make it more complicated?
[05:41] <wweasel> Hey. Just out of curiosity, when should I expect Firefox 1.5.0.6 to hit repos?
[05:41] <|thunder> aujordanh, streamlines
[05:42] <len> bruenig: is this another script to configure xorg?
[05:42] <Pjott> This is getting uncomfortable, and I've written this question 3-4 times now. Sorry for the repeat, but the question is out of the screens resolution :P
[05:42] <Pjott> Why can't I write "@" ? :S I'm from Norway, my keyboard is set to "Norwegian" etc.
[05:42] <nalioth> the !xcfg factoid USED to have just "to reconfigure your xserver, type 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' "  no wonder nobody is getting it
[05:42] <markedwards> micahcowan: that doesn't seem to have worked.  ~ isn't good, I guess its before - or something.
[05:42] <bruenig> !info xmms-wmdiscotux
[05:42] <ubotu> xmms-wmdiscotux: Tux dancing to the music played by xmms. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.3-3 (dapper), package size 45 kB, installed size 196 kB
[05:42] <ardchoille> nalioth: Can it be added back?
[05:42] <ardchoille> It would save a lot of typing
[05:42] <wweasel> Pjott: If no one is answreing, it's not cause we are ignoring you. It's cause we don't know the answer.
[05:43] <nalioth> ardchoille: i'm sure it can
[05:43] <Slasher> anyone know the answer to my problem? :P
[05:43] <wweasel> Just out of curiosity, when should I expect Firefox 1.5.0.6 to hit repos?
[05:43] <bruenig> wweasel, the correct response to that would be this "!tell Pjott about repeat"
[05:43] <FaFoo> how can i tell if i want a partitition to be "primary" or "extended" or even "rounded" or whatever
[05:43] <Pjott> hmmm
[05:43] <markedwards> micahcowan: synaptic says "Installed Version ~ | Latest Version -"
[05:43] <CheetahMk2> SUCCESS
[05:43] <bruenig> FaFoo, what are you trying to do
[05:43] <wweasel> bruenig: or !ask i think. but I just wanted to write it out to him,
[05:43] <__mikem> Pjott what happens when you try to type "@"
[05:43] <CheetahMk2> Holy smokes... it was just the damn default color depth, had to change from 24 to 16
[05:44] <Pukemastasplash> anyone know how to get the nethack IBMGraphics option working in the console?
[05:44] <len> bruenig: Ok!
[05:44] <FaFoo> bruenig, partition my hard drive for ubuntu installation
[05:44] <CheetahMk2> What the heck would cause that?!?
[05:44] <Pukemastasplash> I've tried changing the font to default8x16
[05:44] <Slasher> bah! i knew it you are ignoring me! :P
[05:44] <bruenig> FaFoo, are you trying to dual boot and how many partitions to you intend on having
[05:44] <aniso> hi
[05:45] <FaFoo> bruenig, yeah, i want dual boot with os x, i'm on an imac. i want an os x partition, and a linux / and swap
[05:45] <ardchoille> nalioth: OK, what I should have asked is .. Can you add that back to the bot for us?
[05:45] <aniso> can someone do me a favor and paste /etc/init.d/gdm into pastebin ?
[05:45] <FaFoo> a wee bit confused with all of these options though. :(
[05:45] <mistform> I have a java error in FF
[05:45] <bruenig> FaFoo, then you can make them all primary, You can only have Four primary partitions,
[05:45] <CheetahMk2> Internet?
[05:45] <FaFoo> bruenig: ok
[05:45] <mistform> I thought I had java... I will find out...
[05:45] <Ronz> interesting
[05:45] <Pjott> __mikem: Nothing happens
[05:45] <|thunder> FaFoo, format and partiton what you need for OSX then use gparted to make the ext3 patrs
[05:46] <magick211> You guys have any used honda parts for sale?
[05:46] <FaFoo> uhoh. gotta go. be back in a bit
[05:46] <Tsukino> Think it was just one of those things they thought made it sound cooler
[05:46] <Pjott> __mikem: It's like it isn't a registred adress :/
[05:46] <|thunder> thats what I did
[05:46] <|thunder> but i dont have a mac
[05:46] <aniso> anyone pls?
[05:46] <magick211> Mac's suck
[05:46] <FaFoo> what about "rounded"
[05:46] <__mikem> Pjott, are you sure the key you are typing is mapped to the @ sign
[05:46] <bruenig> aniso, yeah just a second
[05:46] <|thunder> i run OSX on an amd64
[05:46] <magick211> ubuntu sucks
[05:46] <aniso> thank you
[05:46] <|thunder> OSX XP and Dapper
[05:46] <magick211> you guys should use gentoo
[05:46] <|thunder> OSX rules
[05:46] <Pjott> __mikem: welcome to my problem! :D
[05:46] <aniso> lol, gentoo troll ?
[05:46] <Aphex_Twin> what is the name of the ALSA /dev file ?
[05:46] <__mikem> magick211 if you think ubuntu sucks so much then leave
[05:47] <donpachi> hondas suck too
[05:47] <ballpointcarrot> Black holes suck.
[05:47] <bluefoxicy> magick211:  I've us-- o.o damn
[05:47] <bruenig> aniso, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19913
[05:47] <bluefoxicy> I was gonna tell him to switch on all the hardened features
[05:47] <aniso> sweet, thanks bruenig
[05:47] <__mikem> Pjott, havint no experience with other keyboard layouts, I can only tell you to make sure your keyboard layout is set correctly
[05:47] <bruenig> aniso, make sure you make it executable by doing sudo chmod +x /etc/init.d/gdm
[05:47] <wweasel> Ok, could someone help me? For some reason I can't set Firefox to automatically download files to a mounted FAT32 partition. Whenever I try to dl something the DL box never shows up and a blank file with the correct name appears in the folder.
[05:47] <minerale> Now this is a stupid question, but can't I have both ubuntu and kubuntu? I mean, install both packages and just select between ubuntu / kubuntu at login ?
[05:48] <Ronz> haha. i have used gentoo. it just so happened that i had to spend 2 days fixing the updates
[05:48] <henriqueqc> hello! do someone know a way to install .deb packages into /usr/local or /opt !?!?
[05:48] <Pjott> __mikem: Welcome to the biggest problem. When trying to change it to my Logitech, I get an error...
[05:48] <wweasel> minerale: not a stupid question, and yes, you can.
[05:48] <nalioth> minerale: you certainly can do that
[05:48] <__mikem> What sort of error?
[05:48] <bluefoxicy> Ronz:  Gentoo is useful.  I had SSP, pie, a full PaX kernel, and the option to set up working GrSecurity or SELinux policy :)
[05:48] <Ronz> bluefoxicy, i loved gentoo......when it worked
[05:48] <mistform> wtf is up with ubuntuguide???
[05:48] <minerale> wweasel, nalioth: then why are they not together in one cd? (and what is the package I need to install for KDE? apt-get install kde? )
[05:48] <|thunder> minerale, i think you need two diferent sessions
[05:49] <bluefoxicy> Ronz:  But if you're going to use the system, use it for something useful.  This is not self-torture, you use a system because it fits your needs best.
[05:49] <bruenig> wweasel, this may not be off help to you, but I do recall the same problem occuring in Azureus and the only way to solve in Azureus was to allow it to write the file to the ext3 filesystem and then have it automatically moved after download or to allow encremental file writting which basically did the same thing, so that same problem might exist with firefox, so you may need to just download it elsewhere and them ove it
[05:49] <bluefoxicy> Ronz:  nods, as did I  :)  I could turn on and off ANYTHING, literally.  Like JPEG support :)
[05:49] <Pjott> ERROR: This may be caused of: - an error in libxklavier-library
[05:49] <_Jae> How is it recommended that I upgrade my drivers to Nivida so my 3D processor will actually be used. Not massively important but it'd be nice to have.
[05:49] <nalioth> minerale: kubuntu-desktop will get you kde and all the trimmings
[05:49] <__mikem> Pjott is that word for word?
[05:49] <Pjott> yeah :S
[05:49] <Ronz> bluefoxicy, i know. gentoo took me days to get working, but ubuntu took me 30 min to install. ubuntu has the ease of use of fedora, and the power of gentoo
[05:49] <bluefoxicy> Ronz:  it just so happens I switched off "anything making it possible to hack into the system ever"  :D
[05:50] <__mikem> lol, I don't know what to make of it
[05:50] <Pjott> ERROR: This may be caused of: - an error in xkbcomp, xmodmap-verktyene
[05:50] <__mikem> try dpkg-reconfigure libxklavier-library
[05:50] <Ronz> bluefoxicy, theres no unhackable system...;)
[05:50] <Pjott> hmmm
[05:50] <wweasel> bruenig: how would I have it automatically moved, or how would i allow incremental file writing
[05:50] <bluefoxicy> Ronz:   not entirely the power of Gentoo.  Edgy will have full stack smash protection, but it won't have PIE
[05:50] <Pjott> __mikem: It's Norwegian you know
[05:50] <ardchoille> bluefoxicy: So, you turned the system power off? Cool
[05:50] <bruenig> wweasel, yeah those features don't exist in firefox, so it wouldn't be automatic, it would be manual
[05:50] <Pjott> And what I wrote there, I am sure is more usefull than if I paste the Norwegian ;p
[05:50] <Ronz> ardchoille, even then you can hack the box
[05:50] <Ronz> axe anyone?
[05:50] <bruenig> wweasel, but you could write a script and make it really easy
[05:50] <bluefoxicy> Ronz:  You can get pretty damn close, a lot closer than most people think.
[05:50] <ardchoille> Ronz: lol
[05:51] <Ronz> aight, im off to bed. night yall!
[05:51] <_Jae> Another question, while I'm waiting:
[05:51] <Ronz> *shows where hes from*
[05:51] <Ronz> lol
[05:51] <ardchoille> night Ronz
[05:51] <bluefoxicy> Ronz:  I found ways to interfere with 60-80% of security vulnerabilities were alredy out there
[05:51] <linux_user400354> is there a gui app for resizing logical volumes?
[05:51] <bluefoxicy> heh.
[05:51] <_Jae> I have a 250 GB hard drive that I want to use to host files for 2 XP machines and a Mac OS X box. What format do you recommend I put the drive into?
[05:51] <DanaG> !quake2
[05:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about quake2 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:51] <wweasel> bruenig: If I set it to ask me every time I download it works though. It makes no sense to me why auto-download to the mounted folder doesn't...
[05:52] <ardchoille> wweasel: Do you have permission to write to that mounted folder?
[05:52] <Zambezi> I spoke to a jerk a couple of minutes ago. He said XChat is an exploit and I should worry alot about Ubuntu is unsecure. Is he just talking crap? I need it to be confirmed.
[05:52] <bruenig> wweasel, firefox wont write to the fat32, that is the problem
[05:52] <sethk> _Jae, probably sambafs
[05:52] <nalioth> Zambezi: you'll be fine with Ubuntu
[05:53] <_Jae> Sambafs? Hmm.
[05:53] <bruenig> Zambezi, if you heard it on IRC, do you really need to check it's truthfulness
[05:53] <sethk> _Jae, there are better choices but they require software not standard with windows
[05:53] <wweasel> ardchoille: Yes. If I set Firefox to ask me every time where I want to dl it will happily write to my fat32 partition, if I set it to automatically save there, it makes an empty file with the correct file name.
[05:53] <_Jae> Hmm.
[05:53] <sethk> _Jae, samba is the windows file/print networking compatibility software
[05:53] <Zambezi> nalioth, I thought so. That's why I changed to Ubuntu seven weeks ago.
[05:53] <_Jae> Yeah.
[05:53] <bruenig> wweasel, ah then my Azureus connection is not true
[05:53] <ardchoille> wweasel: that's weird
[05:53] <sethk> Zambezi, that's (about xchat) absurd
[05:54] <wweasel> ardchoille: agreed
[05:54] <wweasel> bruenig: Alright. SOrry I didn't explain clearly the first time.
[05:54] <sethk> Zambezi, besides, you can run any IRC client on ubuntu, not just xchat
[05:54] <henriqueqc> can someone help me install .deb packages into an alternate path like /usr/local or /otp? does "dpkg --instdir=PATH" do the job?
[05:54] <CheetahMk2> Is xchat or bitchx better
[05:55] <henriqueqc> */opt
[05:55] <Zambezi> bruenig, I chat the chatlog. I will do me best to get him blocked from the channel. He also said he could get me IP from be BNC. That was funny. I tried to send a file, but I denied. Then he got mad. :-)
[05:55] <bnD> i would highly appreciate anyone's help.. im attempting to untar a file on a fat32 partition, and im getting ownership/permission errors they are listed here -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19914
[05:55] <nalioth> CheetahMk2: irssi is pretty good
[05:55] <Pjott> __mikem: root@cm-84:/home/pjott# sudo dpkg-reconfigure xmodmap
[05:55] <CheetahMk2> ok, I'm trying to get the laptop with ubuntu here so I can copy/paste my logs
[05:56] <Pjott> When I wrote that, I didn't get any errors, but nothin happened...
[05:56] <Pjott> exept that it gave me a new line
[05:56] <sethk> CheetahMk2, lots of other ways to transfer files
[05:56] <Zambezi> sethk, I will try Irssi later when I have more energy. It's a little bit tricky because I have BNC.
[05:56] <mistform> http://ubuntuguide.org isn't loading for me
[05:56] <mistform> everything else is, even www.overclockstop.org
[05:56] <sethk> Zambezi, I have no problem with xchat.  I'm just saying that the comment about the safety of ubuntu, relating it to xchat, is nonsense
[05:56] <CheetahMk2>  sethk   Annoying part is I have wifi on that laptop, so it's pretty messy. I don't think the ubuntu default isntall comes with drivers for an Agere chipset
[05:57] <__mikem> Pjott, did that fix it?
[05:57] <sethk> CheetahMk2, use a usb drive or memory card or something similar to transfer the files.
[05:57] <Pjott> __mikem: nope :S
[05:57] <sethk> CheetahMk2, burn a cd-rw
[05:57] <Pjott> But I've updated my computer now. Let me restart :)
[05:57] <__mikem> ok, good luck
[05:57] <CheetahMk2> don't worry, I'll get it figured out. Thanks though
[05:58] <micahcowan> markedwards, did you get your issue resolved?
[05:58] <Zambezi> sethk, Thanks for saying that. It's my 7th week so I'm failrly new. And if somebody says I thing, I won't argue cause I don't talk about things I don't know of.
[05:58] <DanaG> Hmm, I wonder when this Edgy Eft will come out, and what it will give over Dapper Drake.
[05:59] <sethk> Zambezi,  I wasn't being critical of you, I was annoyed at whoever made the remark originally, because, in addition to being wrong, it's ignorant.
[05:59] <micahcowan> DanaG, it comes out october. It's a "cutting edge" release, which means it will have lots of whiz-bang features, but will be (very likely) somewhat unstable.
[05:59] <IcemanV9> Eft will be released in Oct - 6.10 (according to the schedule)
[06:00] <bruenig> you can't necessarily call it ignorance as that means that you know he doesn't know that isn't the truth whereas it could just be a lie (he does know but is saying so anyways)
[06:00] <rixxon> is there any way to get kopete to look more gnomeish
[06:01] <sethk> bruenig, to say that xchat is somehow related to the safety of specifically the ubuntu distribution is ignorant.  I agree, it's only a lie if he knew it was false, but that doesn't mean it isn't ignorant.  :)
[06:01] <Pjott> damn... :S still does not work :/
[06:01] <markedwards> micahcowan: no, for some reason synaptic isn't respecting the new version
[06:01] <sethk> bruenig, ignorance doesn't require intent  :)
[06:02] <bruenig> it does mean it isn't ignorant as ignorant is one who doesn't know the truth, ignorance requires not knowing, you can't assume he doesn't know
[06:02] <markedwards> micahcowan: I tried netatalk_2.0.3~3ubuntu1 and netatalk_2.0.3-3~ubuntu1
[06:02] <DanaG> I just want Speedstep to work on my Yonah.
[06:02] <sethk> bruenig, I don't disagree with that part.
[06:02] <Pjott> __mikem: The keyboard-crap still does not work :/
[06:02] <DanaG> I need 2.6.17 for that.
[06:02] <bruenig> semantics debate likely is not topical, so I shall stop
[06:02] <markedwards> micahcowan: maybe I need netatalk_2.0.3-3+ubuntu1
[06:02] <sethk> bruenig, so he could be ignorant or he could be lying.  :)  I"ll stop also.  :)
[06:03] <dooglus> sethk: if ubuntu ships with xchat as its default IRC client, and the shipped version of xchat has a security hole, then it's not incorrect to say that ubuntu is insecure.
[06:03] <Slaj_R> Has anyone heard of major differences in speed between wireless and wired networking under Dapper?
[06:03] <micahcowan> markedwards, could be, but somehow I doubt it... are you sure the "new" version isn't > 2.0.3?
[06:03] <bruenig> dooglus, my ubuntu didn't have xchat by default
[06:03] <sethk> dooglus, "shipped with" doesn't make sense in that usage.  It isn't "shipped with" xchat any more than it is shipped with all the other IRC clients in the repositories
[06:04] <markedwards> micahcowan: yes, definitely.  yeah, netatalk_2.0.3-3~ubuntu1 should work, no?
[06:04] <marshall__> if i put option 'ro' on my dvd writer and cd writer drives, will i not be able to write cds/dvds?
[06:04] <micahcowan> markedwards, just checking, but you did change the line in debian/changelog, and not just the package name, right?
[06:04] <Zambezi> sethk, I wasn't either. It really feelt like a relief that you "confirmed" that the guy is a nut and just talking crap.
[06:04] <sethk> dooglus, it is true that _one_ of the installation options installs xchat, but that doesn't imply anything about the distro in general.
[06:04] <sethk> Zambezi, I know.
[06:04] <bruenig> dooglus, that was ignorant
[06:04] <bruenig> :)
[06:04] <DanaG> Is it possible to make my WiFi be wlan0 instead of eth1?
[06:04] <markedwards> micahcowan: yes, for sure.  it shows up as netatalk_2.0.3-3~ubuntu1 in synaptic, but synaptic thinks netatalk_2.0.3-3ubuntu1 is newer
[06:05] <Pulshion> Hi, could someone help me whenever i start an mp3 file a movie player starts up...how do i set default programs for specific files. Like i want ever song files open with rhythmobox or every torrent file with azureus if double clicked on
[06:05] <__mikem> Pjott, I really can't help you then. I have never tried to do what you are doing
[06:05] <sethk> DanaG, there is a rename capability, but it's a pita to use.  why do you care?
[06:05] <__mikem> sorry
[06:05] <Pjott> __mikem: That's OK.
[06:05] <Pjott> Thanks for your help anyways ;D
[06:05] <DanaG> Well, I guess there's no real reason.  It's just aesthetics.
[06:05] <bruenig> Pulshion, generally you can right click on it and then select open with another application and then select that app and it will become the default for that filetype
[06:05] <DanaG> I don't even have a WiFi network, anyway.
[06:05] <dooglus> sethk: I'm pretty sure that ubuntu-desktop used to depend (directly or indirectly) upon xchat.  that appears not to be the case any more
[06:05] <sethk> DanaG, manufacturing problems  :)  ?
[06:06] <Pulshion> bruenig -- yea thats what i always do but im kinda tired of it and for torrent files i dont have that option i think
[06:06] <Zambezi> bruenig, Earlier I mean I have the chatlog with the asshole and I will do everything I can to make him blocked in the channel.
[06:06] <DanaG> I just don't need one.
[06:06] <CheetahMk2> Now it works, but the screen wraps around the top a little bit and there's a black bar on the side, and this is a LCD!
[06:06] <wweasel> bruenig: You said I could easily make a script to download things to a temporary location then copy them over? How?
[06:06] <wweasel> bruenig: I think you were on the right track and that will solve the problem.
[06:07] <Awesome-o2000> is virtualization technology so you can run more than one OS at a time?
[06:07] <FaFoo> how should i choose if i want my partition to "round to cylinders"?
[06:07] <DanaG> Hmmm, Toshiba laptops sometimes have an EDID issue.
[06:07] <dooglus> bruenig: it wasn't ignorant.  I said "if", remember?  and breezy's ubuntu-desktop did depend on xchat
[06:07] <DanaG> Is that in any way related to anyone's problems?
[06:07] <dooglus> bruenig: see http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/base/ubuntu-desktop
[06:07] <markedwards> micahcowan: maybe because I'm not re-downloading the source before buildling?
[06:08] <bruenig> dooglus, it was a joke
[06:08] <floppyears> hi
[06:08] <DanaG> Oh, I do have an issue with DHCP.
[06:08] <DanaG> Namely, it doesn't work.
[06:08] <Awesome-o2000> my dog used to have floppy ears
[06:08] <floppyears> does anybody here have one of the new mac intel laptops running with ubuntu ?
[06:08] <FaFoo> hmm, even google doesn't know what "rounding to cylinders" is. :(
[06:08] <Awesome-o2000> Im going to adopt another one soon with big giant floppy lips and ears
[06:09] <DanaG> In SuSE, I could get it to work by checking "always request broadcast response"
[06:09] <micahcowan> markedwards, I'm not sure I understood that last one.
[06:09] <DanaG> but I can't find that in Ubuntu.
[06:09] <markedwards> floppyears: I have an Intel Mini running ubuntu
[06:09] <dooglus> does anyone have any feel for whether KDE with all the bells and whistles turned off is faster and/or uses less memory than GNOME?
[06:09] <sethk> FaFoo, it means that if you create a partition whose size is some number of sectors such that the partition does not end (or begin) on cylinder zero, then extra space is added to the partition to make it end there.
[06:09] <PORDO> i have a concert in mp3 format, that i need to break into smaller chunks.  anyone know a non-destructive way to just crop this in some specified time location?
[06:09] <markedwards> micahcowan: I am only changing the debian/changelog file and re-running debuild
[06:09] <Pulshion> bruenig -- so there is no way i could make rhythmobox be default player?
[06:09] <bruenig> wweasel, at the top of the script you would put #!/bin/bash and then under that you would put the command mv /path/to/temporary/directory/* /path/to/your/fat32/directory
[06:09] <floppyears> markedwards: I have a laptop but I'm trying to figure out how to get the right click working
[06:10] <markedwards> micahcowan: maybe I need to wipe the source tree and grab it again?
[06:10] <sethk> FaFoo, you can create a partition whose size (in sectors) is anything lower than the available space.
[06:10] <markedwards> floppyears: sorry, not sure about that
[06:10] <DanaG> WIth the Synaptics module, it's possible to make a 2-finger or 3-finger right-click.
[06:10] <sethk> FaFoo, mostly for efficiency reasons, you want to start a partition at a cylinder 0 boundary.
[06:10] <wweasel> bruenig: how would I have it execute whenever I finish downloading a file?
[06:10] <floppyears> ok thanks markedwards
[06:10] <floppyears> anybody with a mac intel laptop here ?
[06:10] <micahcowan> markedwards, you mean, apt-get update? /maybe/... but I wouldn't think so.
[06:11] <bruenig> wweasel, after you write file, do sudo chmod +x whateveryoucalledthefile
[06:11] <micahcowan> LaserJock from #ubuntu-motu just put me onto dpkg --compare-versions ver1 op ver2 (op like lt, gt...)
[06:11] <markedwards> micahcowan: no, I mean that I am creating the .deb from a source tree, and maybe I need to wipe it and get a new one before making a new .deb
[06:11] <Pulshion> Hi, could someone help me whenever i start an mp3 file a movie player starts up...how do i set default programs for specific files. Like i want ever song files open with rhythmobox or every torrent file with azureus if double clicked on
[06:11] <bruenig> wweasel, then make sure you move the file to /usr/local/bin, after you have moved it there you can just type the whateveryoucalledthefile in the terminal
[06:12] <dooglus> Pulshion: which desktop environment are you using?
[06:12] <micahcowan> markedwards, I wouldn't think the actual contents of the source pkg would make much of a difference, just the versions...
[06:12] <CheetahMk2> Silly question: what is the root password on the Ubuntu LiveCD? ^^;
[06:12] <wweasel> bruenig: alright. is there a way to get firefox to execute it automatically when it finishes downloading a file?
[06:12] <Pulshion> dooglus -- ubuntu?
[06:12] <dooglus> CheetahMk2: it's blank I think
[06:12] <DanaG> I think it doesn't exist.
[06:12] <bruenig> wweasel, the way I would do this would be to make a keyboard shortcut execute the script, which can be done with xbindkeys
[06:12] <dooglus> CheetahMk2: or is it locked?  I don't remember.  if it's locked, just do a "sudo -i" to get a root prompt
[06:12] <DanaG> Ubuntu has no root user.
[06:12] <DanaG> You do have "sudo bash" though.
[06:12] <dooglus> DanaG: all linux systems have root users
[06:13] <bruenig> wweasel, do sudo apt-get install xbindkeys xbindkeys-config
[06:13] <CheetahMk2> hm, won't let me run dpkg-reconfigure, says "must be run as root"
[06:13] <wweasel> bruenig: Alright! sounds great, thanks for the help
[06:13] <CheetahMk2> sudo -i worked
[06:13] <dooglus> CheetahMk2: put "sudo" in front of that command
[06:13] <CheetahMk2> thanks, now I can proceed to fix the tearing problem on my monitor...
[06:14] <jon_> what is a good client to download music?
[06:14] <bruenig> wweasel, the setup for xbindkeys is a bit odd initially, once you get it installed you do xbindkeys, and it will give you some prompt telling you to do something, just do what it says, and then after that run xbindkeys again and then run xbindkeys-config to open up a graphical tool for setting up the shortcuts
[06:14] <jon_> i got nicotine, but nothing loads
[06:14] <X-Hacker`> tell me
[06:14] <nalioth> DanaG: sudo -i is the preferred method
[06:14] <chollis> amule
[06:14] <dooglus> jon_: "loads"?  how you mean?
[06:14] <micahcowan> markedwards, netatalk_2.0.3+3ubuntu1 appears to compare greater-than.
[06:14] <wweasel> bruenig: alright
[06:14] <jon_> "cannot connect"
[06:15] <markedwards> micahcowan: okay, well I made it netatalk_2.0.3-4ubuntu1 and it worked
[06:15] <wweasel> bruenig: I need to reboot first. I'll be back.
[06:15] <jon_> i mean all the files i try to download, dont end up downloading
[06:15] <markedwards> micahcowan: so it should be netatalk_2.0.3-3+ubuntu1
[06:15] <jon_> i was wondering if anyone knew of a pretty decent client
[06:15] <markedwards> ?
[06:15] <Pulshion> Hi, could someone help me whenever i start an mp3 file a movie player starts up...how do i set default programs for specific files. Like i want ever song files open with rhythmobox or every torrent file with azureus if double clicked on
[06:15] <DanaG> Dang, WineCVS is broken.
[06:15] <dooglus> jon_: nicotine is the only soulseek client I know of for linux
[06:15] <micahcowan> markedwards, I probably wouldn't put anything in the middle of the XubuntuX bit...
[06:15] <W9ZEB-Lars> what's the syntax to have ubotu msg me with answers to questions...  such as !skype
[06:15] <jon_> what about pyslsk?
[06:15] <bruenig> wweasel, also, you must always have xbindkeys running, it takes up like 600 kb of memory, but you might, once you get it all setup put it in the startup programs
[06:15] <nalioth> Pulshion: right click in nautilus > open file with > check the box for "always use this program"
[06:15] <micahcowan> markedwards, won't there be confusion when debian does an update, and there's a /real/ 4ubuntu1?
[06:16] <Pulshion> nalioth --thanx
[06:16] <dooglus> W9ZEB-Lars: /msg ubotu skype
[06:16] <nicholaspaul> hey nalioth
[06:16] <dooglus> W9ZEB-Lars: you have to be registered with nickserv in order to be able to use /msg though
[06:16] <nalioth> nicholaspaul: howdy
[06:16] <markedwards> micahcowan: yes, it was a test.  but if I use netatalk_2.0.3+3ubuntu1 it will ignore netatalk_2.0.3-4ubuntu1 won't it?
 have you tried /usr/share/doc
[06:17] <Pulshion> nalioth -- hmmm i dont see the checkbox
[06:17] <W9ZEB-Lars> dooglus: danke.
[06:17] <preston> @Everyone: Hello!  &&  @Anyone: How do I know if I have a hyperthreading-enabled CPU
[06:18] <Pulshion> chollis -- what about it?
[06:18] <markedwards> micahcowan: isn't netatalk_2.0.3+3ubuntu1 greater than netatalk_2.0.3-4ubuntu1?
[06:19] <micahcowan> markedwards, just checked: yes. If that's /not/ what you want, then add something to the /end/ of the whole shebang, like  netatalk_2.0.3-4ubuntu1+
[06:19] <DanaG> How do I fix my dchp?
[06:19] <jon_> wheres a really good place to get themes?
[06:19] <yoonie> how do i enable dual monitors?
[06:19] <bruenig> jon_, art.gnome.org
[06:20] <micahcowan> markedwards, if you put it in the middle of the tail bit, then you'd get upgrades from debian, but ignore ones from ubuntu.
[06:20] <preston> No hardware gurus here, huh?
[06:20] <markedwards> micahcowan: I think that's the answer...netatalk_2.0.3-3ubuntu1+
[06:21] <markedwards> micahcowan: or even netatalk_2.0.3-3ubuntu1~ might work
[06:21] <Pulshion> Hi, could someone help me whenever i start an mp3 file a movie player starts up...how do i set default programs for specific files. Like i want ever song files open with rhythmobox or every torrent file with azureus if double clicked on
[06:21] <micahcowan> you want any updates from ubuntu then, right?
[06:21] <DanaG> nalioth said: Pulshion: right click in nautilus > open file with > check the box for "always use this program"
[06:21] <DanaG> already.
[06:22] <yoonie> would anyone mind telling me how to enable dual monitors?
[06:22] <markedwards> micahcowan: yes, I want to know when there's anything new.  I just need to enable SSL, which can't be enabled in netatalk in the binaries because of licensing issues
[06:22] <micahcowan> markedwards, you could even make it more descriptive, like netatalk_2.0.3-3ubuntu1~markedwardsbrew
[06:22] <Pulshion> DanaG -- i know he did but i also sent him that i could not find it and he never replied
[06:22] <bruenig> is ubuntu forums down?
[06:22] <userundefine> nope
[06:23] <bruenig> there it goes nevermind, took like 2 min to load it, must be high server load
[06:23] <human> Hiii ...alll HAIL Ubuntu.....i am using Ubuntu6.06LTS i'd like to know where the 'archives' folder is ?
[06:23] <Pulshion> bruenig -- nope
[06:23] <DanaG> "Open with other application..."
[06:23] <DanaG> I see it.
[06:24] <markedwards> micahcowan: trying netatalk_2.0.3-3ubuntu1~SSL now.  damn, this is an annoying side-effect of apt
[06:24] <preston> Pulshion: System > Preferences > Removable Drives and Media
[06:24] <human> i'd like to know where my downloaded program setups are stored
[06:24] <Section12> http://danagoyette.ytmnsfw.com/
[06:25] <nicholaspaul> nalioth: i bet you could help me :) i have a slave drive that doesnt boot anymore, and i've been trying to install grub on another drive. whre do i begin to try to get it mounting again?
[06:25] <nicholaspaul> nalioth: wait, i dont need it BOOTABLE, just mountable
[06:25] <nalioth> !tell nicholaspaul about ntfs
[06:26] <human> any one knows where the apt stores the the *.deb packages for future installation in Ubuntu 6.06 ?
[06:27] <preston> What part of /proc/cpuinfo will tell me if I have hyperthreading enabled
[06:27] <nicholaspaul> nalioth: i've had it mounted in linux before. its ext3, not ntfs. is it poss. that installing grub on it has messed it up?i prob did that by mistake
[06:28] <Pulshion> preston -- there is no option for files just stuff u plug in to the computer and with which program to open that stuff
/var/cache/apt/archives
[06:28] <baconbacon> preston: the flags part
[06:28] <preston> baconbacon: thank you
[06:28] <human> chollis :let me c...thanx
[06:28] <markedwards> micahcowan, that didn't work.  trying netatalk_2.0.3-3ubuntu1+SSL now
[06:28] <chollis> no prob
[06:29] <preston> baconbacon: i take it 'ht' means hyperthreading?
[06:29] <cyphase> what is it in live cds and the windows installer cd and all other cds that start up at boot that makes them actually start?
[06:29] <Thor> Im trying to do a network install of ubuntu, I followed the guide from ubuntu.com but its not working. Can anyone help me ?
[06:30] <baconbacon> preston: yes it should be
[06:30] <danielmarsom> yes hy means hyperthreading
[06:30] <danielmarsom> *ht sorry
[06:31] <hawkaloogie> when trying to run k3b, i keep getting: ERROR: : couldn't create slave : Unable to create io-slave: Permission denied. any way to fix this?
[06:31] <micahcowan> markedwards, Oh, yeah: should've checked dpkg --compare versions, first...
[06:31] <Blinker> whats the terminal command find out if video hardware accelleration is working?
[06:31] <preston> baconbacon: I'm wanting to upgrade my kernel and wanted to know if the `uname -r` I should install should be i686-smp
[06:31] <micahcowan> +SSL looks to work better...
[06:31] <dooglus> hawkaloogie: "gksu k3b" maybe?
[06:31] <Thor> I get this whe trying to do a network install "Kernel Panic - not syncing: vfs: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(8,1)"
[06:31] <nalioth> !gksudo
[06:31] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using sudo {guiapp}
[06:31] <hawkaloogie> dooglus, i was hoping to avoid running as root
[06:31] <dooglus> preston: `uname -r` will be magically replaced by your kernel version
[06:32] <dooglus> hawkaloogie: I remember having to run it as root the first time
[06:32] <hawkaloogie> but it will work, thanks
[06:32] <preston> dooglus: yes, i know this.  I'm wanting to know if I should upgrade to an SMP kernel
[06:32] <baconbacon> preston: it seems some configurations show ht flag but its not ht-enabled
[06:32] <dooglus> hawkaloogie: try running it as yourself now - I think the first time you run it as root it sets itself up so regular users can run it
[06:32] <preston> baconbacon: clarify please
[06:33] <hawkaloogie> dooglus, nope, i think the permissions on the ~/.kde/socket folder is messed up, lemme try something
[06:33] <micahcowan> netatalk_2.0.3-3ubuntu1.1~SSL (with the "1.1" bit at the end) was what was suggested; I just missed that bit.
[06:33] <dooglus> hawkaloogie: who owns ~/.kde ?
[06:33] <Pulshion> Please can someone help me, im trying to make rhythmobox play mp3 files by default not totem movie player
[06:33] <micahcowan> markedwards, ^^
[06:33] <chollis> you do
[06:33] <danielmarsom> what (if any) are the advantages of running KDE intead of gnome?
[06:34] <dooglus> danielmarsom: it's just different.
[06:34] <micahcowan> danielmarsom, KDE v GNOME is a primarily religious debate, akin to vim v Emacs...
[06:34] <nicholaspaul> !ntfs
[06:34] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[06:34] <dooglus> danielmarsom: KDE looks more like Windows I guess...
[06:34] <userundefine> Pulshion, right-click on an mp3 file and hit tab 'Open With', then set Rhythmbox as default.  It'll make it default for all mp3 files
[06:34] <Section12> KDE is very configurable
[06:34] <hawkaloogie> dooglus, it was owned by root for some reason. fixed. thanks
[06:34] <nalioth> !tell nicholaspaul about ntfs
[06:34] <Section12> and it makes it somewhat simple
[06:35] <dooglus> hawkaloogie: that can happen if you use "sudo" instead of "gksu" to run KDE apps
[06:35] <preston> Pulshion: bump, userundefine
[06:35] <Section12> But I hate the look of it by default...just feels cheap
[06:35] <dooglus> hawkaloogie: check your other folders too: "ls -al ~ | grep root"
[06:35] <btrento> does anyone know how to make the gnome icons not show up in kde and vice versa?
[06:35] <danielmarsom> thanks. that is clear now :)
[06:35] <Section12> And I hate the Crystal look theyve adotped
[06:35] <Pulshion> preston, userundefine -- I cant see the option where to set it by default
[06:36] <danielmarsom> yeah I dont like the look of it..
[06:36] <userundefine> Pulshion, is rhythmbox listed in Open With?
[06:36] <dooglus> Section12: it *is* cheap - $0.00 (!)
[06:36] <Pulshion> userundefine -- yes
[06:36] <Pulshion> userundefine -- but when double clicked totem opens
[06:36] <Pulshion> userundefine --  i wont rhythmbox to open the file
[06:36] <danielmarsom> but then again with almost all environments you can do fancy stuff like transperency
[06:37] <userundefine> Pulshion, so just tick the radio button beside Rhythmbox, and then it will be default
[06:37] <userundefine> Pulshion, rightclick > properties > open with tab.  Not open with in context menu.
[06:38] <Pulshion> userundefine -- the problem is its not there, are u using ubuntu?
[06:38] <preston> baconbacon: can you please clarify your last statement...I mean, how can I be sure I have ht enabled...just it being listed doesn't mean it is?
[06:38] <userundefine> Pulshion, heh, yes.
[06:38] <Pulshion> userundefine -- nvm thanx sorry
[06:39] <baconbacon> if the ht flag is on you should have HT. still, dont uninstall the non-smp kernel
[06:40] <preston> baconbacon: thanks.  I appreciate your response.
[06:40] <markedwards> micahcowan: that appears to have worked, using +SSL at the end
[06:40] <markedwards> micahcowan: I can't get any useful output from dpkg --compare-versions though
[06:41] <chollis> Pulshion here's the guide to associate audio to XMMS maybe you can substitute another program
[06:41] <chollis> sudo cp /usr/share/applications/defaults.list /usr/share/applications/defaults.list_backup
[06:41] <Pulshion> chollis -- thanx i already got it
[06:41] <chollis> sudo cp /usr/share/applications/defaults.list /tmp/defaults.list_tmp
[06:41] <Thor> networki intalll... any one ?
[06:41] <chollis> o cool sorry
[06:41] <Pulshion> chollis -- nah thats cool
[06:42] <Flannel> Thor: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[06:42] <thejusticecow> none of my mp3's work would anyone know why?
[06:42] <Thor> that did not work...
[06:42] <Thor> I want help :|
[06:42] <micahcowan> markedwards, I'm very sorry: do "echo $?" after the compare. If it says 0, it's true, otherwise it's not.
[06:42] <DanaG> !xgl
[06:42] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:43] <chollis> thejusticecow       you might need plug-ins
[06:43] <Thor> Im trying to use a windows machine with tftpd32, where do I put the ubuntu iso ? do i extract it ?
[06:43] <thejusticecow> chollis: what do i need?
[06:43] <dhendrix> hehe
[06:43] <dhendrix> ok, this is where i avert my eyes...
[06:44] <Thor> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot <-- followed this
[06:44] <dhendrix> (sorry, wrong channel)
[06:44] <markedwards> micahcowan: I don't get it...dpkg --compare-versions netatalk_2.0.3-3ubuntu1+SSL lt netatalk_2.0.3-3ubuntu1 | echo $? gives me 0
[06:44] <chollis> thejusticecow         you using dapper or breezy (6.06 or 5.10)
[06:45] <micahcowan> markedwards, you'd want ; not |
[06:45] <markedwards> micahcowan: got it, never mind
[06:45] <micahcowan> :)_
[06:45] <thejusticecow> chollis: dapper 6.06
[06:45] <markedwards> micahcowan, yeah, just realized that
[06:46] <markedwards> micahcowan: okay, I'm good to go, this is working perfectly
[06:46] <markedwards> micahcowan: what a PITA.  thanks! :-)
[06:46] <Thor> how do i specify it to get the files from a directory ?
[06:47] <micahcowan> wait...you calling me a PITA? :-) (jk)
[06:47] <CheetahMk2> Ubuntu nstaller failed.... I guess that means you can't isntall it on a 2GB hard drive :
[06:48] <chollis> thejusticecow        https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[06:49] <ubuntulover> hey :D
[06:49] <tulga> I installed slapd.  but I want install with crypt. howto update?
[06:49] <thejusticecow> chollis: thanks :D
[06:50] <CheetahMk2> Is there any way to do a small-footprint install of Desktop Ubuntu, maybe not install some extras that aren't needed? The isntaller is Fire and Forget
[06:50] <chollis> no prob
[06:51] <Thor> Im trying to do a network install, the cfg file is pointing root to /dev/rd/0 rw  --, how do i make it point to a directory on my pc
[06:51] <dooglus> CheetahMk2: I don't think you need 2GB, but I might be wrong
[06:51] <thejusticecow> chollis: you are AWESOME!...
[06:52] <CheetahMk2> Well, that was on the 'recommended' list. But again, I'm used to XP, which uses about 1gb for system and maybe 512 for junk
[06:52] <chollis> thejusticecow            happy to help
[06:52] <CheetahMk2> I want to avoid the server one since it lacks a GUI
[06:53] <dooglus> CheetahMk2: you could install the server, then install package ubuntu-desktop
[06:53] <ubuntulover> Does anybody know why Ubuntu doesn't have a root user?
[06:53] <dooglus> CheetahMk2: or xubuntu-desktop if you're short of space
[06:53] <userundefine> !sudo
[06:53] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:53] <CheetahMk2> Hm... that's a good idea.
[06:53] <dooglus> ubuntulover: it does have a root user
[06:53] <mrPolite> ubuntulover, its not needs to administer the machine
[06:53] <ubuntulover> I mean like root account
[06:53] <CheetahMk2> I might need a little handholding throught he process, but that sounds like it would work.
[06:53] <dooglus> ubuntulover: it has a root account, just not a root password
[06:54] <dooglus> CheetahMk2: it's easy - just install package ubuntu-desktop and it will bring in all the desktop stuff
[06:54] <mistform> does anyone here use Limewire?
[06:54] <mrPolite> ubuntulover: sudo is capable of completing all administrative task, no root login needed
[06:54] <userundefine> mistform, I've used frostwire a bit
[06:54] <CheetahMk2> Well, I meant I don't know the command line command to do that : )
[06:54] <CheetahMk2> apt-get somthing or other, I imagine
[06:54] <absenth> how do I go about getting Adobe reader 7 installed?
[06:54] <ubuntulover> I know but is thier an option to make a root account so I could enable su...I think it is a little more secure.
[06:54] <mistform> frostwire?
[06:55] <chollis> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-decktop
[06:55] <userundefine> mistform, nice limewire client for linux
[06:55] <chollis> desktop sorry
[06:55] <micahcowan> ubuntulover, no more secure. And sudo -sH would be the equiv to su (with "sudo -i" for su -).
[06:55] <dooglus> CheetahMk2: "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[06:55] <CheetahMk2> heh, nevermind, that helpsa lot chollis
[06:55] <CheetahMk2> and dooglus, thanks as well
[06:55] <mrPolite> micahcowan beat me
[06:55] <mistform> how do I get it, userundefine?
[06:57] <micahcowan> mrPolite, it took me a few seconds to figure out if that was an insult... =)
[06:57] <Bob535> isnt limewire being sued right now?
[06:57] <mrPolite> micahcowan: haha
[06:57] <Frankenstein_AFK> FrostWire > LimeWire
[06:58] <Thor2> what does "root=/dev/rd/0 rw" mean ???
[06:58] <mrPolite> limewire < any torrent client that lets you pick what you download
[06:58] <CheetahMk2> limewire isn't an encryptd service, I'm suprised they aren't doing what they usually do and launching shotgun-lawsuits like Cheney on a hunting trip.
[06:58] <RisingEnd> Wow.. lots a people
[06:58] <dooglus> Thor2: it means use /dev/.../0 as the root partition, and mount read/write
[06:59] <RisingEnd> Anyway, I need everybodies opinion on this card for ubuntu/gaming: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130197
[06:59] <mistform> probably being sued
[06:59] <chollis> root owns ram disk #1 with read write permission
[06:59] <Thor2> during install is that from where it gets its files?
[06:59] <mrPolite> i need to make a fat32 partition mount read only for everyone but root... how do I edit my fstab for this?
[06:59] <dooglus> Thor2: where do you see that line?
[07:00] <Thor2> pxelinux.cfg
[07:00] <RisingEnd> !rules
[07:00] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:00] <Thor2> trying to install from network...
[07:00] <userundefine> mistform, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[07:00] <dooglus> mrPolite: use options uid=0,umask=77
[07:00] <Thor2> the other pc seems to boot properly, apparently the problem is on this one, it cant find the linux install files
[07:01] <dooglus> mrPolite: sorry.  uid=0,umask=22
[07:01] <lmosher> What is the applet called that acts as they system tray? (i.e. gaim resides there)? I'm trying to add one to a panel and I can't find it
[07:01] <dooglus> mrPolite: otherwise non-root users wouldn't even have read or execute permission
[07:01] <baconbacon> Pulshion: right-click, properties, open with, select as default or set another
[07:01] <bimberi> lmosher: Notification Area
[07:01] <dooglus> lmosher: "notification area"
[07:02] <baconbacon> Pulshion: woh that was OLD stuff, sorry
[07:02] <lmosher> bimberi, dolmans ty
[07:02] <lmosher> err dooglus ty
[07:03] <RisingEnd> Well, when anybody gets the time please check out that link.
[07:03] <Thor2> how can I specify the root to be Hard disk 0, partition 3, folder /cb/ubuntu
[07:03] <Thundernhut> hello
[07:03] <RisingEnd> o.o
[07:04] <RisingEnd> My name is Nicholas too o.O
[07:04] <mistform> is Frostwire legal?
[07:04] <RisingEnd> It is as easy usually..
[07:05] <Thor2> dont have a CD
[07:05] <Thor2> cant install it...
[07:05] <RisingEnd> Download it
[07:05] <RisingEnd> And burn it to a cd
[07:05] <Thor2> dont have a cd
[07:05] <RisingEnd> um
[07:05] <RisingEnd> Use ShipIt off the site.
[07:05] <RisingEnd> They send them for free.
[07:05] <Thor2> dont have a CD Drive
[07:05] <RisingEnd> Then why are you using a computer?
[07:05] <RisingEnd> >_>
[07:06] <Thor2> O.o
[07:06] <RisingEnd> Just joking.
[07:06] <bimberi> !install
[07:06] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[07:06] <RisingEnd> That's kinda weird not to have a cd drive.
[07:06] <Thor2> I have one, its damaged :P
[07:06] <RisingEnd> I see.
[07:06] <RisingEnd> Do you know anything about video cards?
[07:06] <RisingEnd> I'm hard pressed just to get somebodies opinion before I buy one for ubuntu.
[07:06] <Bob535> note local computer store will sell you a used one for like 5 bucks
[07:06] <RisingEnd> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130197
[07:06] <Bob535> Rising, what do you want it to do for you?
[07:06] <RisingEnd> There isn't one around here really.
[07:07] <RisingEnd> Um
[07:07] <RisingEnd> Ubuntu.
[07:07] <Thor2> does its drivers exist for ubuntu^?
[07:07] <RisingEnd> I have intergrated crap right now.
[07:07] <RisingEnd> Sis760.
[07:07] <Thor2> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation <-- tried that
[07:07] <RisingEnd> Difficult little drivers.
[07:07] <Bob535> Any games?
[07:07] <RisingEnd> I'm a linux nub.
[07:07] <RisingEnd> Maybe.
[07:07] <Bob535> that card will be okay.. for older games
[07:07] <RisingEnd> If you checked the link it's 256mb and 128bit.
[07:07] <RisingEnd> Eh, it'll play some newer ones as well
[07:07] <Bob535> I would go with a 6600 series, cheap yet more powerful
[07:07] <RisingEnd> Really?
[07:08] <Bob535> able to run most of the newest games, although not at the high settings
[07:08] <RisingEnd> I don't know anything about video cards or how to install them to be honest wit ya.
[07:08] <Bob535> they fit into a slot
[07:08] <Bob535> go with nvidia
[07:08] <RisingEnd> I only have agp 8x.
[07:08] <RisingEnd> This isn't a newer computer.
[07:08] <RisingEnd> I'm wanting to run linux though.
[07:08] <RisingEnd> Getting tired of XP.
[07:08] <Thundernhut> Can some one help me?
[07:08] <Thundernhut> please
[07:08] <Bob535> possibly thund, whats your question
[07:08] <RisingEnd> What do you need? ..
[07:09] <RisingEnd> Well bob, what do you think I should go with?
[07:09] <Thundernhut> I don't know how to access my data on my hard disk
[07:09] <CheetahMk2> Ubuntu can work on a NTFS partition....? I didn't know that
[07:09] <RisingEnd> In ubuntu..? :P
[07:09] <bradibus> is this the help channel
[07:09] <RisingEnd> Yeah.
[07:09] <chollis> yea i just installed the ntfs-3g drivers  there great
[07:10] <bradibus> what's the . file extention for shell script?
[07:10] <RisingEnd> I would love to dual boot but last time I used partition magic it messed up my hdd hardcore
[07:10] <chollis> .sh
[07:10] <bradibus> thank you
[07:10] <mistform> i can't open Frostwire
[07:10] <Thundernhut> how to access my hard disk
[07:10] <CheetahMk2> ntfs-3g are read only, right?
[07:10] <chollis> ubuntu will set the partitions for you
[07:10] <Thor2> checked all 3
[07:10] <Thundernhut> I am using Ubuntu
[07:10] <Thor2> no help in any of them
[07:11] <chollis> nope read and wriite
[07:11] <Thundernhut> my HDD is fat 32
[07:11] <mrPolite> RisingEnd, Fresh Linux install +VMPlayer = The Solution
[07:11] <RisingEnd> What?
[07:11] <CheetahMk2>  chollis   haha! that's great. Then I don't have to mess with repartitioning
[07:11] <Bob535> just a sec rising, finding appropriate card
[07:11] <Thor2> in a network install do the files need to be on a FAT32 partition ?
[07:11] <RisingEnd> Alright Bob, thanks a bunch.
[07:11] <mrPolite> iwipe your drive, install linux then use vmplayer to install xp _inside_ of linux
[07:11] <mrPolite> run windows like its an app
[07:11] <RisingEnd> Oh
[07:11] <RisingEnd> The dual booting
[07:11] <RisingEnd> I forgot :P
[07:12] <mrPolite> not dual booting at all
[07:12] <mrPolite> you boot linux
[07:12] <Bob535> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814143056
[07:12] <Thundernhut> can someone do me a favor?
[07:12] <chollis> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[07:12] <RisingEnd> Alternative to dual booting then? ;)
[07:12] <Bonez> hi all, i have a fat32 partition but i want to completely format it and destroy all data, and turn it into ext3. what is the easiest way to go about this?
[07:12] <dooglus> you run windows inside linux - so both are running at the same time
[07:12] <mistform> I can't open frostwire for some reason
[07:12] <RisingEnd> That's pretty amazing
[07:12] <mrPolite> indeed
[07:12] <RisingEnd> Wouldn't you have to have a decent cpu and stuff though?
[07:12] <chollis> get gparted
[07:12] <RisingEnd> I have an amd 64 3200+
[07:12] <Thundernhut> I want to play a music file on my hard disk
[07:13] <mrPolite> thats more machine then i have
[07:13] <Bonez> chollis: i was looking for a command line way of doing it if possible
[07:13] <x_or> I am trying to compile apache 2.2.3 from source but the build tools are not working.  It tells me "conftest.c:9:28: error: ac_nonexistent.h: No such file or directory" and "g++: installation problem, cannot exec 'cc1plus': No such file or directory"  Any clues how to fix this?
[07:13] <RisingEnd> XMMS, winamp, VLC, blah blah thunder.
[07:13] <chollis> fdisk
[07:13] <RisingEnd> You probably need the codecs/plugins.
[07:13] <dooglus> Bonez: "mkfs.ext3"
[07:13] <Bonez> dooglus: thank you :)
[07:13] <Thundernhut> "XMMS, winamp, VLC"?? I don't understand anything
[07:13] <RisingEnd> Those are media palyers
[07:13] <chollis> o yea
[07:13] <RisingEnd> XMMS is actually on the ubuntu install
[07:14] <Bonez> sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdb1 did the trick
[07:14] <RisingEnd> Are you having trouble playing the file or finding a player to play the file?
[07:14] <dooglus> Bonez: probably best to use fdisk to change the partition type first, although I don't think it's strictly necessary
[07:14] <Thundernhut> I have trouble in finding my file
[07:14] <RisingEnd> Oh, I see
[07:14] <RisingEnd> I'm not even in linux right now but..
[07:15] <RisingEnd> Did you do a clean install of ubuntu?
[07:15] <RisingEnd> If you wiped your windows off the map then most likely all your files went with it bro.
[07:15] <Thundernhut> no
[07:16] <Thundernhut> I use the live CD
[07:16] <RisingEnd> Eh well
[07:16] <RisingEnd> LiveCD really isn't something you should actually use all the time
[07:16] <RisingEnd> Why would you want to find your media files on the livecd?
[07:16] <RisingEnd> (I can totally understand if you are just getting more use to linux..)
[07:17] <RisingEnd> I'm not sure about finding your media files via the liveCD
[07:17] <Bob535> deep end of the pool has space here
[07:17] <Bob535> feel free to jump in
[07:17] <RisingEnd> what? =\
[07:17] <Thundernhut> No, I find my media on my hard disk.but when i open my hard disk , I get this error :" couldn't display "dev/hda3" "
[07:17] <ironclad_> hey in the PPC linux distibution would it cover a old world mac if using a boot loader?
[07:17] <Bonez> hi all, i have samba running so that windows computers can access my shares, however they are read only. how can i make them read-write?
[07:17] <RisingEnd> Oh, then I have no idea
[07:17] <chollis> you need to mount it with the proper umask
[07:17] <mrPolite> Thundernhut: Live CD does not mount the drive
[07:17] <lxe> try "sudo mount -a"
[07:18] <RisingEnd> What they said :-P
[07:18] <Thundernhut> where sudo mount?
[07:18] <Thundernhut> how to mount my hard disk and use it
[07:19] <chollis> what kind of partition is it
[07:19] <Thundernhut> I have the problem with my HDD, it can not boot only useable for storage data
[07:19] <Thundernhut> fat 32
[07:19] <chollis> one sec
[07:19] <ktaylor> new to this, what is the default root password please?
[07:19] <lxe> or "sudo mount /dev/hda3 /media/somefolder"
[07:19] <Tsukino> there is none
[07:19] <Tsukino> Ubuntu by default has no root password
[07:19] <RisingEnd> Bob what site were you usin to find the 6200 you were talking about?
[07:19] <lxe> your default root password is your default user password
[07:19] <Tsukino> sudo is used for root privileges
[07:20] <chollis> udo mkdir /media/windows
[07:20] <Thundernhut> how to mount my hard disk
[07:20] <chollis> sudo mkdir /media/windows
[07:20] <mrPolite> RisingEnd: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183209&highlight=fat32
[07:20] <mrPolite> there ya go
[07:20] <ktaylor> tried both and got error...thank you all
[07:20] <RisingEnd> What's that for?
[07:20] <chollis> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000
[07:20] <mrPolite> xp + ubuntu no dual boot
[07:20] <Thundernhut> this is the first time I use a OS ,but not Window
[07:21] <RisingEnd> Oh, I see
[07:21] <RisingEnd> Do you know anything about video cards? ;)
[07:21] <Thundernhut> where to type that command line?
[07:21] <scottevil> hello yall, I need to build a kernel module so I can set up ubuntu to boot off RAID
[07:21] <Bonez> hi all, i have samba running so that windows computers can access my shares, however they are read only. how can i make them read-write?
[07:21] <dooglus> Thundernhut: in the terminal
[07:21] <lxe> ktaylor try sudo passwd
[07:21] <RisingEnd> Oh, if I can't get on the virual console or whatever that is then I'm pretty much not interested.
[07:21] <scottevil> problem is, I can't get the same kernel that is running on the livecd for whatever reason
[07:21] <Thor2> Read request for file </netboot/pxelinux.cfg/01-00-11-2f-92-79-09>. Mode octet [07/08 02:16:52.613] 
[07:21] <Thor2> File <netboot\pxelinux.cfg\01-00-11-2f-92-79-09> : error 3 in system call CreateFile The system cannot find the path specified. [07/08 02:16:52.633] 
[07:21] <RisingEnd> game*
[07:21] <Thor2> getting that error whrn trying to do a network install
[07:21] <RisingEnd> No use in doing that if I can't play a video game.
[07:21] <AAA> Bonez  add writable = yes to smb.conf
[07:22] <chollis> applications>accessories>terminal
[07:22] <nalioth> lxe: please don't recommend that, someones system may break
[07:22] <mrPolite> RisingEnd: Thats what the xbox 360 is for =P
[07:22] <Bonez> AAA: to which section? global or the specific shares?
[07:22] <RisingEnd> How will they break?
[07:22] <RisingEnd> I have one friend :)
[07:22] <lxe>     create mask = 0777
[07:22] <lxe>     directory mask = 0777
[07:22] <RisingEnd> What's your gamertag?
[07:22] <RisingEnd> 101 ubuntu help!
[07:22] <RisingEnd> ^_6
[07:22] <AAA> Bonez  specific shares
[07:22] <Bonez> AAA: thanks
[07:23] <Bonez> has anyone got VMWare Server working on Ubuntu?
[07:23] <lxe> try adding read only = no
[07:23] <lxe> i got vmware running right now
[07:23] <RisingEnd> But it can't play pc games right?
[07:23] <RisingEnd> VMware
[07:23] <lxe> vmware plays minesweeper like a charm
[07:23] <Bonez> does it run nicely?
[07:24] <RisingEnd> I'm talking about um
[07:24] <lxe> :-p
[07:24] <Bonez> i currently have a windows 2003 server with vmware server and it runs ubuntu fine
[07:24] <RisingEnd> You know ;)
[07:24] <RisingEnd> What do you use it for?
[07:24] <Bonez> i was wondeirng if i could get vmware going on my ubuntu box so i could install other OS's :D
[07:24] <scottevil> any help?  download kernel-sources from repo, it is 2.6.15.7-ubuntu1.  livecd is 2.6.15-26.  I must build against the same kernel as livecd.  how do I get ahold of ubuntu -26?
[07:24] <RisingEnd> I'm intended to just wipe out my windows xp with a clean ubuntu install
[07:24] <Bonez> I did that a few weeks ago
[07:24] <slowcivic2k> same
[07:24] <Bonez> i don't have windows at all anymore
[07:24] <slowcivic2k> just thinking about that
[07:25] <Bonez> i also converted all my NTFS to ext3
[07:25] <Bonez> so there's no going back now :)
[07:25] <Zambezi> Bonez, There's an option to Samba. Hold a minute.
[07:25] <lxe> i downloaded vmware from their website, installed it (via ther install script - was really easy)
[07:25] <slowcivic2k> lol
[07:25] <Bonez> lxe: nice, i'll give it a shot. thanks
[07:25] <slowcivic2k> im getting ready to wipe out my xp install
[07:25] <Thor2> how do I mount a certain partition of a certain hard disk ?
[07:25] <slowcivic2k> after partition tragic destryed all my data
[07:25] <dooglus> Bonez: "converted"?  like kept all the files somehow?  or overwrote?
[07:25] <dooglus> Thor2: "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mount/point"
[07:26] <Bonez> dooglus: dumped the files on another PC on my LAN then formatted it all as ext3, then copied them back over samba
[07:26] <slowcivic2k> NTFS writes are sketchy
[07:26] <slowcivic2k> yea
[07:26] <dooglus> Bonez: I see
[07:26] <Thor2> does the 1 mean partition 1 ?
[07:26] <Thor2> so if i want partition 3 I use /dev/hda3 ?
[07:26] <lxe> i recommend storing all your files on a separate fat32 partition
[07:26] <slowcivic2k> okay, got a dumb question
[07:26] <dooglus> slowcivic2k: "ntfs-ng" is apparently quite safe for NTFS writes
[07:26] <Bonez> my ubuntu install is a mess
[07:26] <slowcivic2k> fedora doesnt have mp3 support built in, like red hat used to
[07:26] <Bonez> but i don't want to start again
[07:26] <RisingEnd> How come?
[07:26] <lxe> ntfs-ng destroyed my music folder
[07:26] <slowcivic2k> does ubuntu have it?
[07:26] <Bonez> cause i've been playing with it lots
[07:26] <Bonez> trying all different softwares etc
[07:26] <dooglus> Thor2: check with "sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda" - that will list your partitions
[07:26] <Bonez> i can't leave it alone!
[07:27] <RisingEnd> My Sis760 intergrated ran ubuntu into the ground
[07:27] <RisingEnd> There is a driver but I don't know how to install it
[07:27] <RisingEnd> Life is great.
[07:27] <Thor2> Im not in linux...
[07:27] <dooglus> slowcivic2k: no, not built in, due to patent issues
[07:27] <Thor2> :P
[07:27] <slowcivic2k> thought so
[07:27] <slowcivic2k> where is there support for it?
[07:27] <Thor2> Im trying to modify an install script
[07:27] <Thor2> its pointing to /dev/rd/0
[07:27] <Flannel> !tell slowcivic2k about mp3
[07:27] <Thor2> no clue where that is...
[07:27] <Flannel> slowcivic2k: theres a page about installing it, ubotu sent you a link
[07:28] <Zambezi> Bonez, http://www.ifolder.com/index.php/Main_Page
[07:28] <RisingEnd> Anybody know the cheapest nvidia card that'll run ubuntu smoothly?
[07:28] <slowcivic2k> awesome
[07:28] <DanaG> aaargh, all my apt-gets are stalling
[07:28] <DanaG> as well as Synaptic.
[07:28] <slowcivic2k> ive been out of linux since redhat 7
[07:28] <slowcivic2k> been a while
[07:28] <RisingEnd> I use BlueHat
[07:28] <Flannel> RisingEnd: Ive got a nvidia geforce2 32mb, and it runs dapper fine (even XGL fine)
[07:29] <slowcivic2k> im gonna start using this
[07:29] <slowcivic2k> ubuntu
[07:29] <RisingEnd> (BlueHat is my made up linux)
[07:29] <slowcivic2k> but i just wanna know what people think of it
[07:29] <Bonez> Zambezi: thanks ill have a read
[07:29] <RisingEnd> Flannel..
[07:29] <RisingEnd> A 32mb card?
[07:29] <ubuntu_> I am attempting to create a primary partition and a swap partition on GParted, although the linux-swap is not being detected.. Anyone know the reason to this?
[07:29] <RisingEnd> What do you do with your pc? =O
[07:29] <ubuntu_> I am trying to install ubuntu
[07:29] <thundr> slowcivic2k, it's great.  Even my dad was even able to install it alone.
[07:30] <Flannel> RisingEnd: Oh, its an old PC, Ive got a few. Franken-boxes and stuff.
[07:30] <RisingEnd> Ubuntu is great.
[07:30] <RisingEnd> Oh, I see.
[07:30] <Zambezi> Bonez, I don't know if it's good, but I got it recommended.
[07:30] <RisingEnd> Any card you would recommend though?
[07:30] <lxe> slowcivic2k : depends on what are you gona use ubuntu for
[07:30] <RisingEnd> I don't want something that weak.
[07:30] <ubuntu_> Anyone here know a few things about installing ubuntu/ using GParted?
[07:30] <slowcivic2k> well, im not too lost when it comes to linux, just been a while, need to know whats changed
[07:30] <Flannel> RisingEnd: shrug, something cheap, and nvidia, not ATI.
[07:30] <slowcivic2k> well
[07:30] <slowcivic2k> i play only a few games
[07:30] <RisingEnd> What's the deal with ATI not being good with ubuntu?
[07:30] <slowcivic2k> americas army mostly
[07:30] <slowcivic2k> and media
[07:30] <RisingEnd> I would play that
[07:30] <slowcivic2k> music and stuff
[07:30] <Flannel> RisingEnd: ATI is not good with linux.  Nvidia is much more cooperative
[07:30] <thundr> RisingEnd, the drivers for it are awful
[07:31] <RisingEnd> Oh I see
[07:31] <slowcivic2k> that was gonna be another question
[07:31] <slowcivic2k> ati cards
[07:31] <RisingEnd> I would like to play games decent enough
[07:31] <RisingEnd> 128-bit would be fine I think..
[07:31] <lxe> i run ati radeon 9600 card
[07:31] <ubuntu_> Anyone here know a few things about installing ubuntu/ using GParted?
[07:31] <slowcivic2k> ive got a 9800 xt
[07:31] <Flannel> RisingEnd: so, 'cheap' would be a bit more expensive then. ;)
[07:31] <poje> I run an X800SE - it took a bit to get it working, but it works well
[07:31] <RisingEnd> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130197
[07:31] <lxe> works with a fglrx driver from ati's website (if you need acceleration)
[07:31] <RisingEnd> That's the card I want to run
[07:31] <RisingEnd> I'm worried it won't work well
[07:32] <thundr> Define decent.  What kind of games?
[07:32] <RisingEnd> Kaz when I start installing there really is -no- turning back
[07:32] <lxe> solitaire, pacman, minesweeper?
[07:32] <RisingEnd> Heck yes.
[07:32] <RisingEnd> I can play it all day :P
[07:32] <slowcivic2k> lol
[07:32] <slowcivic2k> best game ever
[07:32] <RisingEnd> Anyway
[07:32] <ubuntu_> Anyone here know a few things about installing ubuntu/ using GParted?
[07:32] <RisingEnd> In all seriousness
[07:32] <ubuntu_> sigh...
[07:32] <dooglus> when I run "sudo checkinstall", it dumps loads of stuff into /var/tmp/ and fills up the root partition.  I want to tell it to use a different tmp dir.  how can I?
[07:32] <thundr> ubuntu_, yes
[07:32] <thundr> ubuntu_, what problems are you having?
[07:33] <RisingEnd> slowcivic, are you in um.. ubuntu? :P
[07:33] <ReWT_AxS> Can someone please tell me why my script is not working?
[07:33] <slowcivic2k> not yet
[07:33] <slowcivic2k> nothing is stopping me now
[07:33] <RisingEnd> oh crap. :(
[07:33] <slowcivic2k> i done lost all my music
[07:33] <lxe> try ranish partition manager, repartition your hd clean, and automatically install ubuntu onto the free space
[07:33] <slowcivic2k> and everything due to partition tragic
[07:33] <RisingEnd> what music do you like?
[07:33] <RisingEnd> Yeah, that stuff is evil
[07:33] <slowcivic2k> pretty much anything
[07:33] <RisingEnd> it almost ate me
[07:33] <dooglus> I tried "BASE_TMP_DIR=~/tmp sudo checkinstall", but sudo doesn't pass the environment variable on to the sub-process
[07:33] <slowcivic2k> late 80's
[07:33] <ubuntu_> thundr: I'm attempting to install an ubuntu partition on my computer, knowingly needing a swap partition.. I attempt to create a 500mb (also a 1gb I have tried) swap partition (linux-swap) although Ubuntu isnt detecting it.. I dont think
[07:33] <slowcivic2k> and some newer stuff
[07:33] <ReWT_AxS> !pastebin
[07:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:33] <RisingEnd> I lost 4gb of hard drive space and I don't know where it went
[07:34] <RisingEnd> Just "poof"
[07:34] <slowcivic2k> lol
[07:34] <ubuntu_> thundr: the only thing showing up is my Ubuntu partition, and my Windows Partition
[07:34] <RisingEnd> I almost cried
[07:34] <ubuntu_> thundr: that extra 1gb partition i created as linux-swap is not showing up.
[07:34] <dooglus> RisingEnd: is it an 80Gb disk?
[07:34] <thundr> ubuntu_, do you have ubuntu installed?  What version are you trying to install?
[07:34] <Rookie-> updatedb - locate "filename"
[07:34] <RisingEnd> 120gb.
[07:34] <slowcivic2k> well, i think im gonna start burning stuff to dvds
[07:34] <RisingEnd> I have a backup 80gb though.
[07:34] <RisingEnd> ^.^
[07:34] <ubuntu_> thundr: latest version, and no I do not
[07:34] <lxe> ubuntu install automatically lets you choose partition table during the install process
[07:34] <RisingEnd> Burning what to dvds? You files and stuff?
[07:34] <slowcivic2k> and get started with the install
[07:34] <slowcivic2k> yeah, the 2gb that i have left
[07:35] <slowcivic2k> XD
[07:35] <RisingEnd> Lol
[07:35] <ubuntu_> thundr: by having an ubuntu partition showing up I mean a potential ubuntu partition.
[07:35] <RisingEnd> What video card you got?
[07:35] <ReWT_AxS> can someone tell me why this script is not running corrextly? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19916
[07:35] <slowcivic2k> used to have 30gb of music
[07:35] <RisingEnd> And do you have AIM? MSN? blah blah
[07:35] <ReWT_AxS> *correctly
[07:35] <dooglus> RisingEnd: are you aware that disks labeled as 120Gb are really only 112Gb?
[07:35] <RisingEnd> Yes
[07:35] <slowcivic2k> me?
[07:35] <thundr> ubuntu_, you shouldn't have to partition first.  The installer can do that for you
[07:35] <RisingEnd> Yeah slowcivic.
[07:35] <slowcivic2k> yea
[07:35] <RisingEnd> I can't do private messages
[07:35] <RisingEnd> my aim is "nickp229"
[07:35] <RisingEnd> HIT ME UP!@
[07:35] <slowcivic2k> pm'ed
[07:35] <RisingEnd> o.o
[07:35] <ubuntu_> thundr: I dont have the option of an automatic installation, and the only other option is erase-- ill try without making the partition though.
[07:35] <RisingEnd> I can't do those
[07:35] <RisingEnd> not registered
[07:36] <ubuntu_> thundr: Should I just leave an extra 1gb or create no partitions?
[07:36] <RisingEnd> Just send me a message via aim if ya can.
[07:36] <thundr> ubuntu_, if you're running the dapper livecd, there should be a link on the desktop to install it
[07:36] <lxe> what ubuntu are you installing?
[07:36] <lxe> *what version?
[07:37] <ubuntu_> thundr: there is, and I am
[07:37] <thundr> it's dapper, lxe
[07:37] <ttyfscker> i am having some kind of issue with my dvd writer in linux.. i keep getting i/o errors when i try to burn a dvd.. if i burn a cd however it works flawlessly.  can someone help me figure out how to get this fixed?  i have a dell inspiron 6000, and the drive is a sony 20x cdrw 6x dvd +- r(w)    any help?
[07:37] <ubuntu_> thundr: And its the livecd
[07:37] <thundr> ok
[07:37] <Blinker> ttyfscker: when you figure it out let me know
[07:37] <Blinker> same setup
[07:38] <ttyfscker> Blinker::  same problem for you?
[07:38] <ubuntu_> thundr: 30.56gb of unallocated space, going forward.
[07:38] <Blinker> don't know - havent gotten that far yet
[07:38] <Blinker> but if i do end up with a problem, I'd like to know how to fix it, hehe
[07:38] <ubuntu_> thundr: It is presuming I am only wanting one partition from that
[07:38] <ttyfscker> Blinker:: can you try to burn a dvd with k3b and let me know the results?
[07:38] <Blinker> no disks with me (@work)
[07:38] <ttyfscker> Blinker:: i think it might be something to do with the kernel
[07:38] <thundr> ubuntu_, You may want to consider making a seperate home directory, and a swap
[07:39] <ttyfscker> Blinker:: ok thanks though
[07:39] <ubuntu_> thundr: Tried that. The swap is not showing up
[07:39] <ReWT_AxS> Anyone here good with writing scripts or can point me to a channel where I can get help?
[07:39] <thundr> ubuntu_, if you let the installer automatically configure partitions, it should make a swap
[07:39] <ubuntu_> thundr: dont get that option
[07:39] <ubuntu_> thundr: Oddly
[07:39] <ttyfscker> ReWT_AxS:: a script for what?
[07:40] <thundr> Anyone else ran the dapper installer recently and can help ubuntu_?
[07:40] <ReWT_AxS> ttyfscker,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19916
[07:40] <ubuntu_> thundr: Okay, created a ext3 partition that is 29.58gb, what should I do with this 999.67mb ?
[07:40] <ubuntu_> thundr: Filesystem wise and such
[07:40] <thundr> ubuntu_, make it into a swap
[07:40] <ubuntu_> thundr: linux-swap correct?
[07:40] <ubuntu_> thundr: Primary Partition?
[07:41] <thundr> ubuntu_, Yes.  Also, you can change the 30gb partition and make an ext3 home partition
[07:41] <Pulshion> Does anyone find a slowdown in download if azureus is running and downloading something?
[07:41] <RisingEnd> Azureus owns.
[07:41] <RisingEnd> In Windows, that is.
[07:41] <ubuntu_> thundr: it is only detecting sda1 (windows) and sda2 (potential ubuntu partition)
[07:41] <RisingEnd> I dunno bout Ubu.
[07:41] <thundr> ubuntu_, if you have a seperate home partition if you have to reinstall ubuntu for some reason you don't lose all your settings
[07:41] <ttyfscker> ReWT_AxS:: your just wanting it to say how many clients are connected and say none if it = 0 ? right?
[07:42] <ReWT_AxS> yes
[07:42] <ttyfscker> thats all?
[07:42] <ReWT_AxS> yep
[07:42] <ttyfscker> ok
[07:42] <ttyfscker> where does the 5900 come from?
[07:42] <ReWT_AxS> that's the port
[07:42] <Pulshion> RisingEnd -- it does own but i get terrible inet lags when its running
[07:42] <ttyfscker> oh
[07:42] <thundr> ubuntu_, you can resize the ubuntu partition you just made - change the size to around 5 or so GB
[07:42] <ReWT_AxS> default port
[07:42] <ttyfscker> so your just wanting port 5900
[07:42] <ttyfscker> ok
[07:42] <ttyfscker> hang on
[07:42] <ttyfscker> ill fix it
[07:42] <ReWT_AxS> k thanks
[07:43] <ice_1963> hello
[07:43] <odat> hi everyone
[07:43] <ReWT_AxS> Hello
[07:44] <thundr> ubuntu_, there should be an option for mount point on the partitioner, that's where you'll put /home on the larger partition.  The other ext3 partition will be where everything else goes (installed programs, the operating system, etc)
[07:45] <Pulshion> hi, i was woundering if there is a specific command for terminal similar to ipconfig for windows
[07:45] <dooglus> ReWT_AxS: you need a space between 'if' and '['
[07:45] <yozBuntu> puls, 'ifconfig -a'
[07:45] <yozBuntu> will do the same as ipconfig /all
[07:45] <ReWT_AxS> dooglus k
[07:45] <aztracker1> anyone familiar with a decent video editor that will work in dapper?
[07:45] <yozBuntu> sorta ;)
[07:45] <x_or> I am trying to compile apache 2.2.3 from source but the build tools are not working.  It tells me "conftest.c:9:28: error: ac_nonexistent.h: No such file or directory" and "g++: installation problem, cannot exec 'cc1plus': No such file or directory"  Any clues how to fix this?  Or, does anyone know where to find the cc1plus tool?
[07:46] <ice_1963> ipformat :)
[07:46] <thundr> ubuntu_, you may need to go into the manual partition part of the installer, it's the other button
[07:46] <ubuntulover> hey I get this error when I download something that need initool......checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[07:46] <ubuntu_> thundr: Thats what ive been doing
[07:46] <thundr> ubuntu_, okay
[07:46] <ubuntu_> thundr: Im going to see what it does when I let it do it itself
[07:46] <Pulshion> yozBuntu -- aight thanx man
[07:46] <odat> anyone available to give me some feedback on a project i'm doing?
[07:46] <ubuntu_> thundr: Never found a mount point option
[07:46] <thundr> ubuntu_, how do you have the partitions set up now?
[07:46] <ReWT_AxS> well i put a space in it and it still does nothing.
[07:46] <aztracker1> odat, I have a few, what's up?
[07:47] <ubuntu_> thundr: Check your PM
[07:47] <ubuntu_> thundr: Thats how they are being set up
[07:47] <thundr> Anyone used the dapper installer recently?
[07:47] <odat> aztracker1, i'm just looking for some insight about this site i'm working on
[07:47] <ubuntu_> thundr: Dont know why it skipped partition #3 and partition #4,  but I am presuming Partition #1 is Windows
[07:47] <odat> its an open source site
[07:47] <dooglus> ReWT_AxS: how are you running it?
[07:47] <thundr> ubuntu_, I'm not registered here yet, use the pastebin - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[07:47] <Pulshion> yozBuntu -- what are eth0, lo, vmnet1?
[07:48] <aztracker1> odat, url?
[07:48] <dooglus> ReWT_AxS: and what happens?
[07:48] <ReWT_AxS> I'm just running it through the terminal
[07:48] <odat> aztracker1, www.fossystems.com
[07:48] <dooglus> ReWT_AxS: how?
[07:48] <ReWT_AxS> it just blinks
[07:48] <ReWT_AxS> I changed the permission to execute
[07:48] <ReWT_AxS> double click it
[07:48] <ReWT_AxS> it opens in terminal
[07:48] <dooglus> ReWT_AxS: add "#!/bin/bash" as the firstline
[07:48] <thundr> ubuntu_, I'm not registered on freenode so the pms dont' work
[07:48] <ReWT_AxS> tried it
[07:49] <dooglus> ReWT_AxS: and check 'run in terminal' or something?
[07:49] <alienseer23> q: I am about to attempt to reconfigure my xorg file to enable multiple monitors, is it better to have multiple x screens, or use twin view?
[07:49] <ubuntu_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19917
[07:49] <ReWT_AxS> it does
[07:49] <ubuntu_> thundr: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19917
[07:49] <dooglus> ReWT_AxS: maybe add "read x" as the last line, so it waits for you to hit return before ending
[07:49] <ubuntulover> checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool anybody know what I need to fix this?
[07:49] <fabio> Hi there, I'm having a problem with usplash, it just isn't displaying anything (only a fast flickering that looks like my LCD display was in short circuit), once GDM loads everything is ok... until shutdown time, when the flickering returns... any ideas?
[07:50] <ReWT_AxS> save it to your system dooglus and see what it does
[07:51] <thundr> ubuntu_, got it.  What are the sizes of those partitions? 29gb and 1gb?
[07:51] <ubuntu_> thundr: it didn't tell me
[07:51] <ReWT_AxS> ttyfscker, any luck?
[07:51] <seshomaru> hi
[07:51] <chollis> fabio   did you change from default
[07:52] <fabio> nope
[07:52] <Damnit> Helo to all
[07:52] <fabio> chollis this is a fresh install
[07:52] <Damnit> Hello to all
[07:52] <seshomaru> im installing Xubuntu on an old PC - the installation is stuck in 69% , does that mean the CD is fucked?
[07:52] <odat> aztracker1, i don't have any real graphic abilities
[07:52] <Damnit> I have a few questions for those that can help
[07:52] <thundr> ubuntu_, you can continue with that, but seperate home directories are nice.
[07:52] <thundr> !language
[07:52] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:52] <Bonez> seshomaru: if u want help cut the language
[07:52] <seshomaru> sorry
[07:52] <seshomaru> sorry
[07:52] <fabio> chollis I have installed ubuntu several times without any problems, but this time usplash had issues even booting from the live CD
[07:52] <okeR> Ok here's the deal, I want to know if I can burn ubuntu to a DVD and it boot in replacement froma CD?
[07:53] <fabio> okeR, yes, you can
[07:53] <chollis> not sure
[07:53] <seshomaru> if my installation get stuck in 69% does that mean the CD has a problem?
[07:53] <okeR> fabio are you sure it will load like a CD ?
[07:54] <CheetahMk2>  seshomaru   Make sure it didn't run out of hard drive space
[07:54] <fabio> seshomaru, most likely a CD or HDD problem, try running the error check in ubuntu's boot screen (from the install CD)
[07:54] <fabio> okeR, at least I've done so, however there are 2 things to be aware of
[07:54] <seshomaru> fabio - do you mean 'check errors'?
[07:54] <seshomaru> did that,,,,,
[07:54] <ice_1963> if you have a dvdrom
[07:54] <fabio> okeR, if you burn straight from the .iso you'll get a 700mb DVD
[07:54] <okeR> fabio what 2 thins are they
[07:54] <fabio> seshomaru, yes
[07:54] <aztracker1> odat, kind of cool concept, just offering some suggestions.. :)
[07:54] <okeR> DVD's generally hold up to 4 GB so thats not an issue.
[07:55] <fabio> okeR, the second issue is that if you want to burn it as a DVD (4.7Gb/8.5Gb) you have to add the boot info
[07:55] <okeR> Whats the second thing?
[07:55] <ttyfscker> ReWT_AxS:: give me a few minutes and ill fix it.. im having to do some stuff right now.. it wont take me long though
[07:55] <Pulshion> could someone tell me what are eth0, lo, vmnet1?
[07:55] <seshomaru> CheetahMk2,  what do u mean?
[07:55] <okeR> fabio what you mean I have to add the boot info
[07:55] <odat> aztracker1, hmmm i see what you mean about the graphic at that resolution
[07:55] <ReWT_AxS> do you have aim tty?
[07:55] <DanaG> Is it possible to boot the internal CD but use an external DVD drive to copy files from?
[07:55] <rredd4> seshomaru  I always md5 your download before burning to a cd and then test cd in the install program...
[07:55] <fabio> okeR, Create a boot disk image and add it to the boot of your DVD disc
[07:55] <CheetahMk2>  seshomaru   my HDD was only 2.02gb, and the installer crashed for lack of space. Needs at least 2.3GB for desktop install
[07:55] <okeR> fabio do you have msn messenger
[07:55] <DanaG> In the future, if I have to reinstall, my external DVD drive is a helluvalot faster than my internal.
[07:55] <fabio> okeR, no, I have IMs
[07:56] <okeR> AOL?
[07:56] <fabio> I hate*
[07:56] <okeR> or Yahoo
[07:56] <fabio> I hate IM's
[07:56] <okeR> Well
[07:56] <aztracker1> odat, yeah... would probably go down to std 468x60, which should allow room for header as is, with the info on the top right, without stretching it.
[07:56] <okeR> HOw do I create a Boot Disk Image to the boot of my DVD disk ?
[07:56] <Pulshion> could someone tell me what are eth0, lo, vmnet1?
[07:56] <fabio> chollis, Any clues on my usplash issue?
[07:56] <seshomaru> CheetahMk2,  my HDD is big (40G) ,its the memory which is the problem....but thanks for the tip
[07:56] <fabio> Pulshion, eth0 = ethernet card
[07:56] <seshomaru> is there any use in trying again?
[07:56] <fabio> Pulshion,  lo = local interface
[07:56] <seshomaru> or just burn another CD?
[07:56] <fabio> okeR, Are you using windows?
[07:57] <liable_> can anyone suggest a chm viewer for dapper?
[07:57] <Pulshion> fabio -- what is the difference between each? thanx
[07:57] <okeR> fabio yes
[07:57] <grodius> Hey does anyone know if we can get flashplayer 9 on Ubuntu?
[07:57] <fabio> Pulshion, eth0 allows you to connect to a LAN/internet. lo is just a "local emulation of an ethernet interface" (127.0.0.1)
[07:58] <Madpilot> grodius, no, you can't - not yet
[07:58] <aztracker1> grodius, afaik, Adobe/Macromedia only have up to 7.x available for *nix
[07:58] <thundr> grodius, not yet, but Adobe just recently announced development for it.
[07:58] <fabio> grodius,  you can't only 7
[07:58] <slowcivic2k> Score: PartitionTragic: 1, Windows XP, 0
[07:58] <chollis> fabio         no sounds like a driver issues.    there  are some special boot parameters you could try on the live cd my give you so insight
[07:58] <OtavioRibeiro> grodius: You can run Firefox for windows using wine and then install the player
[07:58] <okeR> fabio i'm on Windows
[07:58] <fabio> okeR, search google for "burn booteable cd nero"
[07:58] <x_or> Can anyone tell me how to install a complete dev package?  /lib/cpp is broken.
[07:58] <okeR> i have nero
[07:58] <fabio> chollis, I tried adding vga=792, but it didn't solve it
[07:58] <Pulshion> fabio -- thanx
[07:59] <thundr> grodius, Adobe said that they'd release 9 for linux around the first part of next year
[07:59] <fabio> Pulshion, you're welcome
[07:59] <fyrestrtr> x_or: sudo apt-get isntall build-essential
[07:59] <grodius> thundr shit
[07:59] <OtavioRibeiro> grodius: i readed about it but never tried!
[07:59] <fabio> chollis, is there any way to disable usplash?
[07:59] <thundr> grodius, it's not *that* far off.
[08:00] <seshomaru> is there any use in trying to iinstall again if my install CD freezes?
[08:00] <x_or> fyrestrtr:  I did that, but I still cannot compile apache source, for example.  It fails with "/lib/cpp fails sanity check"
[08:00] <odat> aztracker1, hows that  try now
[08:00] <ReWT_AxS> ttyfscker, sorry i lost connection i don't know if you fixed anything yet
[08:00] <chollis> fabio have you checked syslog
[08:00] <DanaG> Hah, on my system, Partitionmagic tells me "can't [figure out]  drive letter for partition."
[08:00] <floppyears> hi
[08:00] <DanaG> Or something like that.
[08:00] <floppyears> I have ubuntu with compiz setup
[08:00] <DanaG> and quits.
[08:00] <fyrestrtr> x_or: any reason you are compiling from source?
[08:00] <fabio> chollis, I just found how to disable usplash :)
[08:00] <chollis> cool
[08:00] <floppyears> how can ubuntu have these kind of eye candy ?
[08:01] <floppyears> I never thought that linux would have something like this
[08:01] <x_or> fyrestrtr:  I need 2.2.3.
[08:01] <fyrestrtr> x_or: what do you get when you type 'which cpp' ?
[08:01] <ice_1963> can i inatall irssi in ubuntu?
[08:01] <fyrestrtr> ice_1963: its already there
[08:01] <fabio> chollis, I did check the syslog but couldn't find anything "weird"
[08:01] <bimberi> ice_1963: it's installed by default
[08:01] <x_or> fyrestrtr:  That is what is weird, I get /usr/bin/cpp.  I even unlinked /lib/cpp but it still complains about that.
[08:01] <ice_1963> ok
[08:01] <x_or> fyrestrtr:  I am confused.
[08:02] <fabio> chollis, I see vga mapped to an hex address, that's all
[08:02] <fyrestrtr> x_or: you might need to pass some arguments to ./configure -- and ask in #apache :)
[08:02] <aztracker1> odat, better
[08:02] <x_or> fyrestrtr:  They told me to come by here and tell #ubuntu "Thanks for shipping a broken g++ system"  :)
[08:02] <odat> aztracker1, ok
[08:02] <ice_1963> fyrestrtr: hmm i did not know that :)
[08:02] <fyrestrtr> x_or: oh lol
[08:03] <rredd4> DanaG  I have the same problem on my desktop,  called tech support about it, but I didn't want to pay there fee
[08:04] <tx_rednek> anyone know how to fix a hung up screensaver
[08:04] <prophet> can you view cams in GAIM through yahoo?
[08:04] <fabio> tx_rednek, kill it using the console :)
[08:05] <x12385> Ok here's the deal, I want to know if I can burn ubuntu to a DVD and it boot in replacement of a CD?
[08:05] <tx_rednek> yes but i cant change it or the settings
[08:05] <OtavioRibeiro> prophet: no... gaim not support webcams
[08:05] <m0nkey> tx_rednek rebbot then tell screen savers not to happen
[08:05] <prophet> :(
[08:05] <prophet> do you know if anything doe
[08:05] <prophet> s
[08:06] <tx_rednek> tried doesnt work
[08:06] <slowcivic2k> okay dudes
[08:06] <OtavioRibeiro> prophet: for msn i know the amsn.. but only!
[08:06] <slowcivic2k> time to install ubuntu
[08:06] <x12385> Ok here's the deal, I want to know if I can burn ubuntu to a DVD and it boot in replacement of a CD?
[08:06] <x12385> Ok here's the deal, I want to know if I can burn ubuntu to a DVD and it boot in replacement of a CD?
[08:06] <x12385> Ok here's the deal, I want to know if I can burn ubuntu to a DVD and it boot in replacement of a CD?
[08:06] <fabio> tx_rednek, kill is always handy
[08:06] <Pulshion> Did anyone ever experience in big download speed slow down when running azureus?
[08:06] <bradibus> OtavioRiberto: I was about to ask the same thing. Any AIM clients that can do webcam?
[08:06] <fabio> x12385, please look at the pm (query) window
[08:06] <purplebody> Hi, I installed the ubuntu server, but want a very lightweight wm without opening up my repositories to the universe, any ideas?
[08:06] <chollis> x12385   have you read thru the orums
[08:06] <ice_1963> x_or: did you visit Debian
[08:07] <OtavioRibeiro> bradibus: amsn can!
[08:07] <chollis> forums
[08:07] <tx_rednek> right i can kill it when it comes up but i can't change the settings to turn it off
[08:07] <x12385> i dnt c an fab31
[08:07] <OtavioRibeiro> bradibus: http://amsn.sourceforge.net/
[08:07] <prophet> how do i mount my webcam?
[08:07] <fabio> tx_rednek, can't you switch screen savers without "fixing" the one with problems?
[08:07] <tx_rednek> nope
[08:07] <Pulshion> Did anyone ever experience big download speed slow down when running azureus?
[08:08] <bradibus> OtabioRibeiro: Is that an AIM client as well? Or just MSN
[08:08] <aztracker1> x12385, a DVD takes a different disk/drive than a CD.. you need to burn to cd to boot from cdrom.
[08:08] <fabio> tx_rednek,  seems like you'll have to edit the conf file manually and remove the problematic screen saver
[08:08] <OtavioRibeiro> prophet: the usb subsystem will do it...
[08:08] <tx_rednek> as soon as i open panel computer freezes
[08:08] <aztracker1> if the reader is a dvd reader, you should be able to burn the cd iso to dvd.
[08:08] <OtavioRibeiro> prophet: if linux support your webcam
[08:08] <prophet> how do  know
[08:08] <ice_1963> fabio: ya RIGHT
[08:09] <tx_rednek> thanx I'll do it the hard way I guess
[08:09] <DanaG> argh gxine crashed and it won't die when I kill -9 it.
[08:09] <OtavioRibeiro> prophet: when you plug a webcam the kernel disver it and link it to an /dev/video*
[08:09] <Linux_whore> http://pastebin.ca/120227 why am i getting errors from make??
[08:09] <argunda>  anyone tried STX Linux before?
[08:09] <bradibus> My "webcam" has been around before operating systems. ;-) It's combatable. It's analog.
[08:09] <ice_1963> fabio: jest do a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg :)
[08:10] <DanaG> can you dpkg-reconfigure other things like alsa?
[08:10] <OtavioRibeiro> prophet: plug it and check /proc/bus/usb/devices
[08:10] <Linux_whore> /dev/video does not exist and i have a webcam plugged in
[08:10] <DanaG> What else is it useful to dpkg-reconfigure?
[08:10] <ice_1963> alsaconf
[08:10] <Linux_whore> can someone please help with compiling?
[08:10] <OtavioRibeiro> prophet: cat /proc/bus/usb/devices
[08:10] <ice_1963> lol
[08:10] <DanaG> alsaconf is gone.
[08:10] <farous> Linux_whore: what type of cam you have
[08:11] <fyrestrtr> Linux_whore: what are you compiling?
[08:11] <prophet> cat /proc/bus/usb/device
[08:11] <prophet> says no such fuile
[08:11] <nathanial> hi folks. I have a quick question on DVD region codes.
[08:11] <OtavioRibeiro> prophet: yes
[08:11] <fabio> ice_1963, I'm not familiar with "debian/ubuntu specific" tools, that's why I said that the best way would be to edit the .conf file
[08:11] <farous> !cam
[08:11] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[08:11] <prophet> how do u unblock the cam from the firewall
[08:11] <roylez> when upgrading cupsys, it says "adduser: command not found", but I am sure adduser is there. Anybody know why?
[08:12] <ice_1963> you can edit with nano
[08:12] <ice_1963> or vi
[08:12] <fabio> ice_1963,  I know, I'm not the one with the issue, I was just providing a solution
[08:12] <watson540> roylez:: TRY USING THE WHOLE PATH TO THE BINARY. E.G /USR/BIN/ADDUSER
[08:12] <OtavioRibeiro> cat /proc/bus/usb/device
[08:12] <watson540> sorry for caps guys
[08:12] <ice_1963> ok
[08:12] <argunda> anyone tried STX Linux before?
[08:13] <OtavioRibeiro> prophet: check this one: cat /proc/bus/usb/devices
[08:13] <fabio> ice_1963,  tx_redneck was the one with the issue
[08:13] <watson540> holdin g a baaby and typing one handed, no tine to look at screen :)
[08:13] <bradibus> I just downloaded sun java, and it's a .bin file. Says to rename to .bin . I do. Doesn't work. What am I doing wrong? :) </got unbuntu today noob>
[08:13] <fabio> brb gonna try to reboot now without usplash
[08:13] <chollis> prophet  do lsusb
[08:13] <roylez> watson540: i used apt-get to upgrade, so there is no need for me to specify the path to the command.
[08:14] <chollis> lsusb
[08:14] <bradibus> er my bad says to rename .sh
[08:14] <OtavioRibeiro> prophet: if your kernel supports your webcam it will be there
[08:14] <CheetahMk2> Hm.... does the Ubuntu Server install CD support WPA networks out of the box?
[08:14] <timte> When I add files to my usb stick they are lost if I unplug the stick. Do I have to unmount it?
[08:15] <OtavioRibeiro> timte: yes
[08:15] <Jukru> bradibus: I think you don't have to rename it, just execute it
[08:15] <OtavioRibeiro> timte: even on windows you have to.
[08:16] <m0nkey> timte: you can just leave the stick in and power down then remove
[08:16] <timte> OtavioRibeiro: but there's no unmount option in nautilus
[08:16] <bradibus> Jukru: I get a message saying that .bin files are unknown and that I should rename it to the shell script extention. I can't get it to exicute
[08:16] <waseem> hi does anyone here have a Samsung ML2250
[08:16] <Linux_whore> farours, i have a logitech quick cam express and i dont know the model number, but following the directions at wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam did not work
[08:16] <m0nkey> timte: when you power down the OS it unmounts everything
[08:17] <mark_> any luck with new nvidia drivers and xorg 7.0.. i still have that 100% cpu racing problem with opengl apps
[08:17] <OtavioRibeiro> timte: if you click with the right button will have an options "unmount volume"
[08:17] <Linux_whore> fyrestrtr, i am compiling a kernel module for webcam. it is soca5
[08:17] <RisingEnd> Can someone direct me to the guide ubuntu.com has that says which cards are compatible and which aren't? Can't find it.
[08:17] <KLarth> When I try to play sound, I get some rythmic noise.  The longer I leave rythmbox open, the longer the noise takes to go away.  What's up
[08:17] <Linux_whore> fyrestrtr:  i mean spca5
[08:17] <timte> m0nkey: yes, but who wants to turn off the computer just to have a few files?
[08:17] <fyrestrtr> RisingEnd: what kind of cards?
[08:18] <RisingEnd> Video, of course. ^^
[08:18] <farous> !hardware
[08:18] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[08:18] <Jukru> bradibus: are you trying to execute i from a shell?
[08:18] <roylez> when upgrading cupsys, it says "adduser: command not found", but I am sure adduser is there. Anybody know why?
[08:18] <Jukru> it*
[08:18] <RisingEnd> Lol, thx bot friend.
[08:18] <rixth> How can I get Totem to play xvid?
[08:18] <dooglus> ReWT_AxS: did you get the script working?
[08:18] <ttyfscker> ReWT_AxS:: you here?
[08:19] <bradibus> Jukru: Probably. :D. Yes. I am.
[08:19] <ReWT_AxS> im here
[08:19] <Jukru> bradibus: hm, weird
[08:19] <ReWT_AxS> and no i haven't yet
[08:19] <aztracker1> rixth, search for EasyUbuntu for install of misc codecs.
[08:19] <Linux_whore> http://pastebin.ca/120227 why am i getting errors from make?? how can i correct this problem?
[08:19] <timte> OtavioRibeiro: no, I don't have any such option
[08:19] <dooglus> ReWT_AxS: did you try running it from a terminal?
[08:19] <ReWT_AxS> yes
[08:19] <Jukru> bradibus: so something like ./java.bin ?
[08:19] <rixth> aztracker1, I have my codec situation set out well. All the non free formats play fine, but free ones dont
[08:19] <aztracker1> wild.
[08:19] <odat> aztracker1, still there?
[08:20] <aztracker1> odat, yeah
[08:20] <ReWT_AxS> ttyfscker, im here
[08:20] <ReWT_AxS> any luck ttyfscker
[08:20] <RisingEnd> It would have to be complicated.. I guess linux is that way though ...
[08:20] <odat> aztracker1, think this is crazy?
[08:20] <dooglus> ReWT_AxS: what happened?
[08:20] <OtavioRibeiro> timte: when you plug your stick a folder will appear at desktop right?
[08:20] <roylez> for my case, is it possibly because an unknown incorrect configuration in for selinux?
[08:20] <ubuntu_> can someone help? i just installed dapper. when i tried booting grub doesn't load. what should i do?
[08:20] <aztracker1> odat, what's that?
[08:20] <odat> aztracker1, the site
[08:20] <Luke_> does anyone know a way to downgrade from edgy to dapper?
[08:20] <ReWT_AxS> nothing happened again
[08:20] <timte> OtavioRibeiro: nautilus is opened
[08:20] <Luke_> or a guide to do it?
[08:20] <KLarth> aztracker1, was that advice meant for me?
[08:21] <OtavioRibeiro> timte: it will put a folder inside "My Computer"
[08:21] <tabman> how can I search a folder by name ?
[08:21] <OtavioRibeiro> timte: check there
[08:21] <aztracker1> odat, looks okay to me.. I'm wrong person for advice on commercial Ideas, I'm just a web-app developer..
[08:22] <RisingEnd> Um.. when you install those binary drivers for an nvidia card.. can you do that in Ubuntu?
[08:22] <odat> aztracker1, are you available for hire i need an app and or script
[08:22] <RisingEnd> (or I guess you are supposed to, right?)
[08:22] <waseem> hi does anyone here use a samsung printer, it is not working on my system
[08:22] <OtavioRibeiro> RisingEnd: yes you can!
[08:22] <dooglus> ReWT_AxS: what do you mean, 'nothing happened'?
[08:22] <aztracker1> KLarth, not really, if you're having codec issues, easyubuntu is pretty nice.
[08:22] <RisingEnd> And there are no tricky complications?
[08:22] <ReWT_AxS> it just closes the terminal
[08:23] <RisingEnd> I'm totally new to linux in a way.
[08:23] <timte> OtavioRibeiro: nothing close to "My Computer" here, I get nautilus showing /media/usbdisk
[08:23] <nathanial> Hi folks, I'm looking for help with DVD region codes.
[08:23] <dooglus> ReWT_AxS: what did you type?
[08:23] <aztracker1> odat, sure..  http://www.theroughnecks.com/resume/
[08:23] <ReWT_AxS> nothing
[08:23] <damned[office] > anybody knows any GUI lvm manager?
[08:23] <ReWT_AxS> i opened the file in terminal
[08:23] <dooglus> ReWT_AxS: run a terminal, type "bash yourscript.sh" and tell me what happens
[08:23] <OtavioRibeiro> RisingEnd: only if you are using Xorg instead XFree.. nvidia installer will put the drivers inside XFree directory.. so you will need to move to right place!
[08:24] <KLarth> I already got codecs from easyubuntu.  I'm having problems with all sound files.
[08:24] <gibsonsg> hi, im having a problem with synaptic
[08:24] <gibsonsg> can someone help me out?
[08:24] <RisingEnd> Is that hard to do?
[08:24] <dooglus> gibsonsg: probably
[08:24] <OtavioRibeiro> timte: one way.. open the console and type this: unmount /media/usbdisk
[08:24] <gibsonsg> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)   etc
[08:25] <Luke_> does anyone know how to downgrade from edgy to dapper?
[08:25] <OtavioRibeiro> timte: close nautilus.. so you receive a "device is busy" message
[08:25] <OtavioRibeiro> RisingEnd: No.. the installer will do everything to you!
[08:25] <timte> OtavioRibeiro: yeah, but I'm looking for the newbie friendly way
[08:25] <ReWT_AxS> npothing happens again
[08:25] <OtavioRibeiro> RisingEnd: you just need to copy the files to the right place after or the Xserver eill crash
[08:26] <Golaff> Luke, I think you need to reinstall.
[08:26] <RisingEnd> Well..
[08:26] <RisingEnd> Right now I have intergrated video..
[08:26] <dooglus> gibsonsg: click the 'refresh' button
[08:26] <RisingEnd> If I can save myself money and not buy a video card that would be awesome
[08:26] <RisingEnd> But I'm not sure how to install the driver needed for it
[08:27] <OtavioRibeiro> timte: usually a icon to your usb stick will appear inside the "My Computer" folter or in your desktop.. maybe you have something wrong with your installation
[08:27] <RisingEnd> Ubuntu doesn't really support intergrated video on there site.
[08:27] <dooglus> ReWT_AxS: you're rubbish at getting help!
[08:27] <DanaG> If I want kernel 2.6.17, am I better off compiling it myself or simply waiting for the next Ubuntu?
[08:27] <OtavioRibeiro> timte: the nautilus will open too...
[08:27] <gibsonsg> that was simple
[08:28] <OtavioRibeiro> timte: check the gnome-volume-manager!
[08:28] <RisingEnd> =\
[08:28] <mark_> Is there an fix for the 100% CPU race condition with the new 7.0 xorg and nvidia drivers (matrox drivers as well)
[08:28] <gibsonsg> whats the best bittorrent client?
[08:28] <dooglus> ReWT_AxS: do a "cat" on your script, then run it in the same terminal, and pastebin the whole lot
[08:28] <RisingEnd> I like Azureus.
[08:28] <Tsukino> I'm trying to set up VMware, but one of the packages isn't in apt-get, how do I switch repos and find out what has it?
[08:28] <RisingEnd> It falls into preference though.
[08:28] <gdb> I like whatever it is Firefox opens in Ubuntu's stock install.
[08:28] <dooglus> gibsonsg: Azureus is the best bittorrent client for Ubuntu
[08:28] <wasauce> anyone have an idea for how i can create a shutdown script that will turn my computer off after 20 minutes of being idle?
[08:29] <RisingEnd> I don't really know then.
[08:29] <gibsonsg> thanks
[08:29] <RisingEnd> :-)
[08:29] <dooglus> gibsonsg: it's memory-hungry though.
[08:29] <CheetahMk2> Instead of "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop", is there any way I can download the desktop module to a USB key and install it manually?
[08:29] <gibsonsg> like how much?
[08:29] <Luke_> does anyone know how to downgrade from edgy to dapper?
[08:29] <RisingEnd> I thought that was an upgrade?
[08:29] <gdb> Luke_: Reinstall the system.
[08:30] <dooglus> gibsonsg: I've been running Azureus for 10 minutes, and it's currently using 407Mb
[08:30] <gibsonsg> i have 24g cause my big hd is getting write errors
[08:30] <Luke_> gdb: that wouldnt be a downgrade then now would it
[08:30] <gdb> Luke_: Ok, then "you can't".
[08:30] <fistandantilus> theres no such thing
[08:30] <dooglus> gibsonsg: I'm talking about memory, not disk space
[08:30] <Golaff> wasauce, I believe you can use the power utility used on notebooks to do that.  My notebook with dapper can be configured to do that.  That's the battery utility in Gnome.
[08:30] <gibsonsg> oh right
[08:30] <fistandantilus> should have known better before
[08:30] <ReWT_AxS> cat?
[08:30] <Luke_> gdb: there is a way, it is just "painful"
[08:30] <gibsonsg> yea i only have 128
[08:30] <gibsonsg> at the moment
[08:30] <dooglus> gibsonsg: you probably want to use a smaller client then
[08:30] <RisingEnd> Hrm.. I need some serious help.
[08:31] <RisingEnd> There is a driver out there for my intergrated video.
[08:31] <RisingEnd> But I don't know how to install it.
[08:31] <fistandantilus> Luke_: and if you get it working right congratulations as half of the system will be dapper and the other half edgy, if your looking for a simple solution it'd be to reinstall
[08:31] <timte> OtavioRibeiro: Do you mean Places -> Computer? I can't find "My Computer" anywhere.
[08:31] <RisingEnd> >_>
[08:31] <chollis> Luke_    edit your apt souces.list file change all edgy to dapper
[08:31] <OtavioRibeiro> timte: yes
[08:31] <Luke_> chollis: did that. how do i downgrade
[08:31] <gibsonsg> what about for music? i got nicotine but i dont like it
[08:31] <OtavioRibeiro> timte: I you it in portuguese language! :)
[08:31] <DanaG> Oh, if I want to add the original Ubuntu ISO as a source, how would I do it?
[08:31] <Golaff> Luke, from what I understand, you can upgrade but not downgrade.  A reinstall is your only option.
[08:31] <chollis> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:31] <OtavioRibeiro> timte: I use it in portuguese language! :)
[08:31] <timte> OtavioRibeiro: oh :)
[08:32] <ReWT_AxS> dooglus, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19919
[08:32] <chollis> and dont accept any conf file changes
[08:32] <Luke_> chollis: that just leaves them at edgy
[08:32] <wasauce> Golaff:  okay Ill check it out
[08:32] <dooglus> ReWT_AxS: I don't see you running it in that pastebin
[08:32] <chollis> Luke_ leaves what as edgy
[08:32] <dooglus> ReWT_AxS: type "./new\ file
[08:33] <dooglus> "
[08:33] <Luke_> chollis: all the packages
[08:33] <fistandantilus> there is no supported downgrade, period.
[08:33] <Luke_> fistandantilus: i'm not looking for supported
[08:33] <timte> OtavioRibeiro: in "My Computer" I have an Eject option but no unmount option. It's rather hard to eject a usb stick.
[08:34] <fistandantilus> Luke_: then your not on topic and take it elsewhere
[08:34] <Luke_> fistandantilus: i didnt realize we could only talk about "supported" ubuntu things here
[08:34] <OtavioRibeiro> timte: try it... maybe is just the name! :)
[08:34] <fistandantilus> Luke_: yes
[08:34] <gdb> I don't get what the big deal is about reinstalling it.  If the machine isn't important enough to avoid installing Edgy on, then it's "not important enough" to reinstall Dapper.
[08:34] <gdb> It takes all of 15 minutes from boot to done.
[08:34] <fistandantilus> gdb: well if you backup home especially
[08:34] <Kon[A] > Argh, can anybody help me, for some reason im getting this: sudo: /var/run/sudo owned by uid 1000, should be uid 0
[08:35] <chollis> Luke_   I did this once from dapper to breezy by mistake copying a sources.list from the old unofficial guide
[08:35] <Luke_> gdb: it takes longer on a instal mac
[08:35] <OtavioRibeiro> timte: Gnome knows it as a removable device.. so.. is something generic!
[08:35] <Luke_> chollis: really... i'll try that again thanks
[08:35] <BobSongs> Unless you keep /home on a different partition. Then reinstalling is swift and easy.
[08:35] <timte> OtavioRibeiro: eject worked
[08:36] <chollis> dont forget apt-get update
[08:36] <timte> OtavioRibeiro: but I can't remount it and it still shows in "My Computer"
[08:36] <gdb> All I can suggest is setting your selections to that of a clean dapper install, then running something like "apt-get -f -y --force-yes --reinstall dselect-upgrade"
[08:36] <fistandantilus> its till going to be butchered but whatever, to each his own
[08:36] <OtavioRibeiro> timte: yes... that is true... you need to unplug and then plug!
[08:36] <gdb> What you get is likely to not look like a default dapper install, though.
[08:37] <ReWT_AxS> it just blinks
[08:37] <ReWT_AxS> the little type box
[08:37] <Kon[A] > Hey, Im getting this message when I try to sudo a task: sudo: /var/run/sudo owned by uid 1000, should be uid 0
[08:37] <CheetahMk2> Pardon my asking, but what is the command to confiugure a wireless card from the comand line in Ubuntu? Or any networking, for that matter
[08:37] <fork> are  ubuntus pkgs are as new as debians?
[08:38] <Kon[A] > newer,fork.
[08:38] <fistandantilus> which debian heh
[08:38] <YogSothoth> Hi!
[08:38] <BobSongs> Hi.
[08:38] <fork> fistandantilus say testing or unstable
[08:38] <gdb> You'd do that by getting a list of the default selections and then doing this: dpkg --get-selections > current-selections.txt, then editing that %s/install/purge/g, then dpkg --set-selections < current-selections, then dpkg --set-selections < default-selections.txt, then running that apt-get (after an apt-get update).. It's liable to not work, though.
[08:38] <Kon[A] > sudo: /var/run/sudo owned by uid 1000, should be uid 0
[08:38] <Kon[A] >  (can anybody help me with this error :( I cant google it)
[08:38] <fistandantilus> fork: doubtful, i cant confirm as i dont run debian though, ubuntu relies on 'stable' packages
[08:39] <waseem> Hi what do you do when your printer is not listed on the graphic setup user interface?
[08:39] <YogSothoth> I'm trying to follow instructions here: http://www.kiberpipa.org/~gandalf/ubuntu/README And it says to use deb command but it's not avaiable on my Ubuntu dapper?? What is the package to install to have the deb command?
[08:39] <gdb> It works wonderfully for moving between "snapshots" of a current release's packages, but probably won't going from edgy to dapper.
[08:39] <Kon[A] > Ubuntu has taken debian unstable packages and made them stable
[08:39] <gdb> fistandantilus: for all intents and purposes, ubuntu is debian
[08:39] <chollis> anyone I'm study for the lpic 101 & 102  if you know of good study guides let me know  I already use gentoo and web monkey
[08:39] <cbx33> waseem, look for a ppd file on linuxprinting.rg
[08:39] <cbx33> .org
[08:39] <Kon[A] > what does this mean??! (sudo: /var/run/sudo owned by uid 1000, should be uid 0
[08:39] <Kon[A] > )
[08:40] <fistandantilus> yes but i thought we were pretty much in between debian stable and test
[08:40] <cbx33> chollis, are they online resources?
[08:40] <gdb> fistandantilus: there's some value add here and there to be sure, but the system is essentially the debian unstable release on the date that the merges started.
[08:40] <waseem> cbx33: not found
[08:40] <waseem> the link, i mean
[08:40] <waseem> it didnt work
[08:40] <cbx33> oh search google for linux printing
[08:40] <gdb> fistandantilus: No, Ubuntu is considered a "stable" release in the same vein as Debian's stable.
[08:40] <fistandantilus> gdb: okay, makes sense
[08:40] <cbx33> http://www.linuxprinting.org/
[08:40] <Kon[A] > I installed Debian on my laptop a while ago, the support sucked so I plugged in Ubuntu
[08:41] <RisingEnd> Okay, I'm confused.  I was reading the Hardware Support on Ubuntu.com about video cards.. everybody says Nvidia is better than ATI.. but ATI doesn't have any comments or new things to download when you get it.. why is that?
[08:41] <fistandantilus> i jumped from another distro to ubuntu so i dont have much debian background
[08:41] <waseem> cbx33: ive looked there but i dont know im still kind of confused
[08:41] <chollis> Kon[A]    that there's only one super user on the os
[08:41] <gdb> fistandantilus: It's actually a facinating engineering process that Ubuntu uses to suck in all of the Debian unstable tree and then "stabilize" it, add some value, and ship it out the dor.
[08:41] <cbx33> what printer is it
[08:41] <gdb> dorr*
[08:41] <gdb> er door*
[08:41] <Kon[A] > chollis, how can i fix this? thanks for interest
[08:41] <waseem> samsung ml 2250
[08:42] <cbx33> http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Samsung-ML-2250
[08:42] <gdb> fistandantilus: The Ubuntu team also adds a lot of value with such tools as ubiquity, update-manager, a wealth of control panels that abstract system configuration, etc, etc.
[08:42] <chollis> Kon[A]    you want to change it to uid0?
[08:42] <CheetahMk2> !dkpg
[08:42] <ubotu> I know nothing about dkpg - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:42] <Kon[A] > chollis, just to how it was before
[08:43] <Kon[A] > uid0 I guess, chollis
[08:43] <waseem> cbx33: i know ive been there but im still a little confused. im new to linux and i dont really understand what i should do
[08:43] <cbx33> ok
[08:43] <waseem> cbx33: i know i have ghostscript already installed
[08:43] <cbx33> hang on 2 secs I'll take a look and guide you
[08:43] <waseem> but im lost from there
[08:43] <fistandantilus> gdb: we dont mirror debian repos though right? i mean in the sense that ours are identical but 'stable'? i was under the impression the debian repos contained more i guess, but that may be rumor
[08:43] <Kon[A] > chollis, yeah i did chown -R myself to the /var directory when I was editing var/www , hehe  `-`
[08:43] <waseem> thanks i appreciate it
[08:45] <gdb> fistandantilus: I'm not sure that Multiverse and Universe are the sum total of what's in Debian's archives or not, to be honest.  One thing you can do on your Ubuntu system is run dpkg -l | grep -v ubuntu.  That lists all the packages that are taken straight from Debian without any modificiation.  If you grep for 0ubuntu, those are packages that were taken from Debian and patched by Ubuntu.  If you grep for ubuntu0, those are packages that are unique to Ubunt
[08:45] <Kon[A] > Chollis, got it working. chown -R root /var
[08:45] <Kon[A] > thanks anyway dude
[08:45] <dooglus> Kon[A] : you've messed the box up pretty badly.  I don't know a good way to recover it properly.
[08:45] <chollis> yep would have been my suggestion
[08:45] <fistandantilus> gdb: interesting, i didnt know of all those variables for listing
[08:46] <cbx33> waseem, gimme a few minutes this one isn't as easy as meets the eye
[08:46] <gdb> fistandantilus: There's an Ubuntu versioning page out there somewhere on the wiki.  I'm trying to dig it up now.
[08:46] <waseem> thanks i really appreciate it, take your time cbx33
[08:46] <cbx33> most "new" printers have a ppd file you can just download and install
[08:46] <cbx33> this one doesn
[08:46] <cbx33> t
[08:46] <cbx33> I think you make have to compile your driver
[08:46] <cbx33> I'll look into it
[08:47] <waseem> k
[08:47] <DanaG> XGL is t3h awesome!
[08:47] <DanaG> I can even play videos while stretching the window.
[08:47] <Tsukino> how do I find out if a package is on another repo, and how do I change repos?
[08:48] <floppyears> hi
[08:48] <floppyears> quick question
[08:48] <floppyears> how can I get the alt+up to work as page up ?
[08:48] <cbx33> DanaG, too right it is :p
[08:48] <ttyfscker> ReWT_AxS:: sorry about all that
[08:48] <fistandantilus> Tsukino: you can use !info packagename in here to find out what repository a package is in if that helps
[08:48] <ttyfscker> ReWT_AxS:: my little boy had to get all of his stuff ready for school
[08:49] <ttyfscker> i looked that script over.. do you really need if then else in it?
[08:49] <chollis> !info wone
[08:49] <ubotu> Package wone does not exist in dapper
[08:49] <ttyfscker> ReWT_AxS::  something like this will work wont it?
[08:49] <chollis> !info wine
[08:49] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB
[08:49] <Tsukino> !info gcc-4.0-locales
[08:49] <ubotu> gcc-4.0-locales: The GNU C compiler (native language support files). In repository universe, is optional. Version 4.0.3-1ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 0 kB, installed size 3264 kB
[08:49] <ttyfscker> users=`netstat|grep 5900|wc -l`
[08:49] <ttyfscker> echo "$users users are currently connected to port 5900"
[08:49] <ttyfscker> exit
[08:49] <DanaG> Oh, now I need to find a Human KDE icon theme.
[08:50] <dooglus> or just: echo $(netstat|grep 5900|wc -l) users are connected
[08:50] <ttyfscker> dooglus:: true
[08:51] <dooglus> hi ttyfscker.  still fscking tties?
[08:51] <ttyfscker> lol
[08:51] <ttyfscker> yep
[08:51] <dooglus> I still maintain you're doing it wrong
[08:52] <CheetahMk2> !dpkg
[08:52] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[08:52] <cbx33> waseem, is this a new printer?
[08:52] <waseem> ive had it for like 2 months or something
[08:52] <cbx33> it seems there is a lot missing
[08:52] <waseem> but i never got it to work
[08:52] <cbx33> it's not going to be easy
[08:52] <waseem> it worked on windows, but i got a virus so now i use linux
[08:52] <fistandantilus> hah
[08:52] <waseem> so i know its not a problem wtih the printer itself
[08:52] <gdb> fistandantilus: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources - that page describes the Xubuntu0 and 0ubuntuX versioning.  I had them reversed, btw.
[08:52] <cbx33> well, linux is way better
[08:52] <CheetahMk2> can anyone here tell me how I'd use dpkg to mess with "wpasupplicant" to get my interet working so I can apt-get? ~_~
[08:52] <ppd> cbx33, I have found a newer Samsung driver package which seems to work for now
[08:52] <fistandantilus> its funny why people switch, i lost my MS key way back when ;)
[08:52] <waseem> haha ya when i know how to use it
[08:53] <cbx33> ppd, oh?
[08:53] <gdb> fistandantilus: Ah, at the top of the page under "Building Packages for Ubuntu"
[08:53] <ppd> cbx33, thank you
[08:53] <cbx33> mind helping waseem out?
[08:53] <fistandantilus> gdb: right on, thnx
[08:53] <floppyears> anybody who can help me get my alt+ up arrow working as my pageup key ?
[08:54] <dooglus> in "drwxr-sr-x 2 news news 136 Feb 21 19:50 /var/log/news", what does the "s" permission mean?
[08:54] <waseem> ppd, any ideas for what i can do?
[08:54] <ppd> waseem, do you own a samsung printer?
[08:54] <waseem> yes
[08:54] <waseem> ml 2250
[08:54] <ppd> ok
[08:54] <ppd> wait a minute
[08:54] <TheGame> wassup
[08:55] <TheGame> i just did the x11 font patch
[08:55] <TheGame> and the fonts look amazing
[08:55] <fistandantilus> anyone here familiar with putting videos on an ipod in linux? my friend has an ipod video or whatever they are called and is looking for me to help me out and i dont even know where to start heh
[08:55] <cbx33> TheGame, what patch is that?
[08:55] <TheGame> the libcairo patches etc
[08:55] <cbx33> cool
[08:55] <cbx33> can ya giveus a screenie?
[08:55] <TheGame> sure
[08:57] <saispo> hi all
[08:57] <SurfnKid> yo
[08:58] <saispo> anyone known why when i use default ubuntu theme, i was some shitty things on buttons ?
[08:58] <saispo> with other theme, no problem
[08:58] <TheGame> what do i do with the jpeg
[08:58] <cbx33> saispo, I think it was an old gtk bug
[08:58] <ppd> waseem, first you have to make cups run as root
[08:58] <ppd> sudo adduser cupsys shadow
[08:58] <cbx33> TheGame, you can email it to me and I can put it on a webserver
[08:58] <cbx33> unless you have one :p
[08:58] <saispo> cbx33: i thing two, but for the first time, i supposed it's my video card but not
[08:58] <waseem> ok done
[08:59] <ppd> then sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart
[08:59] <TheGame> will do
[08:59] <saispo> when i move my cursor on, the button clear and seems look fine
[08:59] <cbx33> saispo, do you have upto date updates?
[08:59] <waseem> k done
[08:59] <test2342> How do I adjust AV sync in VLC?
[08:59] <cbx33> TheGame, I'll pm the email address
[08:59] <TheGame> alright
[08:59] <TheGame> im not a registered user tho
[08:59] <TheGame> so pm may not work
[08:59] <saispo> cbx33: yes i update my dapper this morning
[08:59] <fistandantilus> you just cant reply afaik
[08:59] <cbx33> saispo, hmmm
[09:00] <ppd> wassem, download this: http://org.downloadcenter.samsung.com/downloadfile/ContentsFile.aspx?CDSite=DE&CttFileID=303122&CDCttType=DR&ModelType=N&ModelName=ML-2250&VPath=DR/200607/20060711101742437_UnifiedLinuxDriver.tar.gz
[09:00] <waseem> ContentsFile.aspx?CDSite=DE&CttFileID=303122&CDCttType=DR&ModelType=N&ModelName=ML-2250&VPath=DR/200607/20060711101742437_UnifiedLinuxDriver.tar.gz
[09:00] <waseem> oops
[09:00] <waseem> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 403 Forbidden
[09:00] <waseem> 00:00:11 ERROR 403: Forbidden.
[09:01] <saispo> cbx33: i have a DELL 2005FPW with a radeon 7500
[09:01] <waseem> ppd: i tried doing that wget and that didnt work. i just clicked on it and it worked then
[09:01] <waseem> sorry about that
[09:01] <waseem> haha
[09:01] <TheGame> sent
[09:01] <TheGame> cbx33:
[09:01] <waseem> ppd: its done downloading
[09:01] <ppd> ok, then. just extract it e.g on your desktop
[09:02] <waseem> ...ehh how do i do that?
[09:02] <ppd> youst right klick on it and choose extract here
[09:02] <waseem> oh ok
[09:03] <m4rk> has anyone managed to get wine photoshop 6 working on dapper?
[09:03] <ppd> now youi should have a folder containing an autorun and a folder named cdroot
[09:03] <ppd> or something like that
[09:04] <waseem> ok found it
[09:04] <ppd> just run autorun and let it install that driver but skip the add-printer wizard as it won't work in ubuntu
[09:05] <waseem> ok it wont let me autorun
[09:05] <waseem> how do i do it as root
[09:05] <waseem> from the terminal
[09:05] <ppd> sudo ./autorun
[09:06] <FantasticFoo> would anybody know how to determine one's horizontal and vertical refresh rates?
[09:06] <FantasticFoo> there was this command that i used awhile ago that guessed them perfectly
[09:06] <waseem> so skip the "Add printer wizard" completely?
[09:06] <ppd> waseem, you can try it but it won't work in dapper
[09:06] <FantasticFoo> it gave me a whole xorg.conf line for my correct settings
[09:06] <waseem> wait the printer is starting up
[09:06] <waseem> ...
[09:07] <waseem> *orgasm*
[09:07] <waseem> thanks so much man
[09:07] <waseem> i really appreciate it
[09:07] <ppd> waseem, what? does it already work?
[09:08] <waseem> ppd: yes
[09:08] <Kon[A] > this is beyond a fucking joke, its been about an hour and im trying to remove this fucking packages
[09:08] <waseem> the test page
[09:08] <waseem> worked
[09:08] <ppd> strange. in dapper?
[09:08] <waseem> ubuntu
[09:08] <ppd> ubuntu what version?
[09:08] <Kon[A] > Do you want to continue [Y/n] ? y
[09:08] <Kon[A] > (Reading database ... 127405 files and directories currently installed.)
[09:08] <Kon[A] > Removing lighttpd ...
[09:08] <Kon[A] >  * Stopping web server lighttpd                                          [fail] 
[09:08] <Kon[A] > invoke-rc.d: initscript lighttpd, action "stop" failed.
[09:08] <Kon[A] > dpkg: error processing lighttpd (--remove):
[09:08] <Kon[A] >  subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
[09:08] <Kon[A] >  * Starting web server lighttpd                                          [ ok ] 
[09:08] <Kon[A] > Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:08] <Kon[A] >  lighttpd
[09:08] <Homicide187> ive been trying to get a bittorrent client running and i dont know which one i should you
[09:08] <Kon[A] > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:08] <Kon[A] > alistair@alistair:~$
[09:08] <Kon[A] > where the fuck am i going wrong?
[09:08] <thundr> !language
[09:08] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:08] <thundr> Kon[A] , don't paste in here please
[09:08] <Kon[A] > homicide, apt-get install bittorando-gui
[09:08] <waseem> ppd: it still wont let me print from like open office
[09:08] <Kon[A] > thundr, how do i fix this
[09:09] <ppd> waseem, no printer available?
[09:09] <Kon[A] > waseem, restart your machine
[09:09] <ttyfscker> i am having some kind of issue with my dvd writer in linux.. i keep getting i/o errors when i try to burn a dvd.. if i burn a cd however it works flawlessly.  can someone help me figure out how to get this fixed?  i have a dell inspiron 6000, and the drive is a sony 20x cdrw 6x dvd +- r(w)    any help?
[09:09] <waseem> ok im gonna reboot really quickly then
[09:09] <thundr> Kon[A] , paste in the pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[09:09] <waseem> thanks ppd so much and  Kon[A] 
[09:09] <ppd> waseem, look if you can see it in system -> ... -> printing
[09:09] <waseem> ok
[09:09] <waseem> how do i do that?
[09:09] <ppd> i think it is absolutely not necessary to restart
[09:09] <waseem> oh ok
[09:09] <waseem> let me check then
[09:10] <ppd> you access it via the menu
[09:10] <waseem> ya its there
[09:10] <Homicide187> how can i configure it
[09:10] <Kon[A] > ok i posted thundr
[09:10] <Homicide187> bittornado
[09:10] <thundr> Kon[A] , I guess you could try dpkg --configure -f or something like that to fix the errors, but I really have no idea.
[09:10] <FantasticFoo> there was a command that started with x, i think, that guess my horizontal and vertical refresh perfectly
[09:10] <ppd> waseem, ok. when you restart your programs they shopuld recognize it
[09:11] <FantasticFoo> does anyone know what that is?
[09:11] <ppd> should
[09:11] <waseem> ppd: ok ill closse and reopen them
[09:11] <Kon[A] > this is bullshit lol
[09:11] <TheGame> cbx33: what do you think
[09:11] <cbx33> looking nice
[09:11] <TheGame> almost as good as mac fonts
[09:12] <waseem> ppd: youre amazing
[09:12] <waseem> thanks
[09:12] <ppd> no problem. would you tell me what your ubuntu version is?
[09:12] <Kon[A] > Can anybody solve this problem? cause uh, I cant :D  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19920
[09:13] <waseem> hmm
[09:13] <waseem> i think im using kubuntu
[09:13] <waseem> how would i check?
[09:13] <waseem> my brother actually installed it fofr me
[09:13] <Kon[A] > waseem, uname -r in terminal
[09:13] <ppd> no
[09:13] <ppd> yes
[09:13] <waseem> 2.6.10-5-386
[09:13] <ppd> hoary?
[09:13] <Kon[A] > thats kernel, whoops
[09:13] <ppd> but seems to be hoary
[09:14] <drako> is ubuntuguide.org down?
[09:14] <ppd> waseem, thank you
[09:14] <waseem> thanks so much again, i reallllllllyyy appreciate it
[09:14] <Kon[A] > Can anybody solve this problem? cause uh, I cant :D  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19920
[09:14] <waseem> im gonna go now
[09:14] <Homicide187> bittornado keeps saying couldnt listen 98-address already in usre
[09:14] <waseem> thanks again.
[09:14] <RisingEnd> If anybody if available, I need some help.
[09:14] <tulga> I installed slapd on dapper. but when I try ldapsearch, I get error like ldap_sasl_interactive_bind_s: No such object (32). howto fix it
[09:14] <tulga> ?
[09:15] <Kon[A] > risingend, sure
[09:15] <Kon[A] > Can anybody solve this problem? cause uh, I cant :D  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19920
[09:15] <drako> is there a mirror for www.ubuntuguide.org ? it seems like the main site is down, or its me?
[09:15] <RisingEnd> Eh, Kon.. are you an experienced Linux user?
[09:15] <Kon[A] > not bad
[09:15] <RisingEnd> My problem shouldn't be too complicated.
[09:15] <Kon[A] > oki
[09:15] <Kon[A] > mine isnt too, just annoying :@
[09:15] <Kon[A] > Can anybody solve this problem? cause uh, I cant :D  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19920
[09:15] <RisingEnd> I just want to install a driver for my intergrated video.
[09:15] <Kon[A] > oh ok
[09:15] <Kon[A] > who is your vendor
[09:15] <RisingEnd> Hold on and I'll find you the site.
[09:15] <RisingEnd> Vendor?
[09:16] <Kon[A] > i was recently installing some 3rd party SiS drivers as SiS do not make them thereselves, pain in the ass
[09:16] <Kon[A] > yes, eg, nvidia, ati
[09:16] <fyrestrtr> Kon[A] : I can help you with that problem if you want.
[09:16] <RisingEnd> Oh, it's just something that came with my HP.
[09:16] <Kon[A] > firestarter, i would be grateful
[09:17] <fyrestrtr> Kon[A] : open up /etc/init.d/lighttpd in superuser mode (gksudo gkedit /etc/init.d/lighttpd)
[09:17] <RisingEnd> Kon[A] , http://www.winischhofer.at/linuxsispart1.shtml
[09:17] <RisingEnd> Eeek.
[09:17] <RisingEnd> Just help me when you can Kon.
[09:17] <wasauce> anyone have an idea for how i can create a shutdown script that will turn my desktop off after 20 minutes of being idle?
[09:17] <Kon[A] > risingend, yes that is the site I have used
[09:18] <BeepAU> hey everyone, i'm a linux noob. I downloaded the linux version of winrar from it's website, but i don't know how to run it. can anyone help me?
[09:18] <Kon[A] > im in the process of installing the frame buffer for direct rendering
[09:18] <RisingEnd> You've used that before?
[09:18] <RisingEnd> Oh.
[09:18] <Kon[A] > beep, apt-get install xarchiver
[09:18] <Kon[A] > that will solve all your winace, zip and rar problems
[09:18] <RisingEnd> I'm just wanting my GUI not to flicker and have weird problems.
[09:18] <RisingEnd> And not to crash whilst in Ubuntu.
[09:18] <Kon[A] > firestarter, i opened it with nano
[09:18] <fyrestrtr> BeepAU: sudo apt-get install unrar
[09:19] <Kon[A] > do you have shared memory rising end?
[09:19] <RisingEnd> 512mb SDRAM i think.
[09:19] <fyrestrtr> Kon[A] : okay, now scroll till you see case $1 in -- and then below that you'll see stop)
[09:19] <RisingEnd> one sec..
[09:20] <Kon[A] > i see it
[09:20] <fyrestrtr> Kon[A] : it should have a few lines in there....
[09:20] <BeepAU> fyrestrtr -- ok, now how do i use it?
[09:20] <fyrestrtr> BeepAU: man unrar :)
[09:20] <RisingEnd> Eh, Kon[A]  -- it's 2 x 184-pin DDR DIMM.
[09:20] <BeepAU> Kon[A]  -- thanks for your help
[09:20] <wasauce> any ideason how i can create a sleep script? something that checks if the computer has been idle for 20 minutes and then shuts the box down
[09:21] <Kon[A] > BeepAU, your welcome
[09:21] <Kon[A] > firestarter, it does
[09:21] <BeepAU> should i not use winrar? i like to for windows, but i'd rather not use the terminal. i prefer a graphical interface.
[09:22] <Kon[A] > BeepAU, xarchiver is graphical
[09:22] <Linux_whore> i need libsdl but theres a problem. which one do i choose? i have many. ubuntu@ubuntu:/usr/src/modules/spca5xx$ apt-cache search libsdl | wc -l          35
[09:22] <RisingEnd> I feel forgotten. ;)
[09:22] <fyrestrtr> Kon[A] : some might be with echo -e "Stopping
[09:23] <icebank1> ok, should I watch Stand By Me or The Notebook (lol)? I haven't seen either
[09:23] <crimsun> Linux_whore: libsdl1.2debian* should already be installed.
[09:23] <BeepAU> Kon[A]  -- ok, i'll check it out. thankyou.
[09:23] <fyrestrtr> Kon[A] : comment out everything other than the echo statement ... put # before the lines to comment them out.
[09:23] <fyrestrtr> Kon[A] : don't comment out the ;; at the end.
[09:23] <fyrestrtr> Kon[A] : then save the script, and run your apt-get command again.
[09:23] <icebank1> crimsun, can you help me out?
[09:24] <crimsun> Linux_whore: are you attempting to compile an SDL app?
[09:24] <RisingEnd> dang it.. :(
[09:24] <crimsun> Linux_whore: if so, then you need libsdl1.2-dev .
[09:24] <Kon[A] > frystrt, everything?
[09:24] <gdb> Linux_whore: Each of the listings has a specific description.  Have you read those?
[09:25] <gdb> Linux_whore: apt-cache search libsdl (without piping it anywhere)
[09:25] <Linux_whore> crimsun: yes i am
[09:25] <Linux_whore> crimsun: thanks
[09:25] <gdb> "all available options", "with X11 and ALSA", "with X11 and esound" etc
[09:25] <gdb> looks to me like you want libsdl1.2debian-all
[09:25] <crimsun> icebank1: I don't think your question needs my assistance
[09:25] <icebank1> crimsun, no, really, I insist
[09:25] <gdb> er, if you're building, then libsdl1.2-dev
[09:25] <fyrestrtr> Kon[A] : pastebin the file, I'll edit it and then you can use that one.
[09:26] <hume> hi - I got some problems with my host name, apache and squid complains about not finding "fully qualified hostname". I got vista5.localdomain in file /etc/hostname, but command hostname -f gives only "vista5"
[09:27] <RisingEnd> I guess I'll just stay with XP for now. -_-
[09:27] <fyrestrtr> hume: in /etc/hostname you should have only 'vista5'
[09:27] <icebank1> crimsun, Stand By Me it is
[09:27] <icebank1> thanks
[09:28] <hume> fyrestrtr, ok, changed that. how do I get a fully qualified name that apache and squid likes then?
[09:29] <fyrestrtr> hume: edit /etc/hosts and add an entry for your computer there, or setup a proper DNS server.
[09:30] <AnAnt> the firefox update DOES NOT work with plugins !
[09:30] <AnAnt> any solution for this ?
[09:30] <SurfnKid> oh
[09:30] <AnAnt> and it cannot even connect to addons.mozilla.org
[09:30] <SurfnKid> how in the heck can i get the new flash 9 plugin
[09:30] <fyrestrtr> SurfnKid: you don't.
[09:30] <gdb> SurfnKid: Flash 7 is the latest and greatest Linux version that Macromedia has released.
[09:30] <drako> is there a mirror for www.ubuntuguide.org ? it seems like the main site is down, or its me?
[09:31] <AnAnt> gdb: URL ?
[09:31] <hume> fyrestrtr, ok, in hosts I have 127.0.0.1 localhost, and on next line 127.0.1.1 vista5 (which is the same machine). How do I change the ip to be the same? Just change here to 127.0.0.1 or need I change somewhere else?
[09:31] <gdb> AnAnt: ?
[09:31] <AnAnt> gdb: URL for flash7 ?
[09:31] <steveO_> Anything I can run on this linux box (command line only) to find out what make and model my MOTHERBOARD is?
[09:31] <gdb> AnAnt: apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[09:31] <AnAnt> thanks
[09:31] <zcat[1] > steveO_: lshw
[09:31] <twa1296> steve0_ lshw
[09:31] <alienseer23> hello
[09:32] <gdb> AnAnt: I believe you need Multiverse enabled to install that.
[09:32] <AnAnt> gdb: yeah, I thought u meant the standalone flash player
[09:32] <alienseer23> I am trying to get my nvtv to work, but it sais no supported video card found? I know this is wrong...
[09:32] <steveO_> you rock
[09:32] <steveO_> thanks
[09:33] <DanaG> argh, cvscedega won't compile.
[09:33] <DanaG> Also, in xine, I can't get my center channel to work correctly.
[09:33] <fyrestrtr> alienseer23: are you using the drivers from nvidia.com or the ones from the repos?
[09:33] <gdb> Oh wow
[09:34] <gdb> I didn't know about that lshw command.  That's really nifty!
[09:34] <alienseer23> fyr, the ones from synaptic
[09:34] <fyrestrtr> alienseer23: try the ones from nvidia.com -- they have better support for that stuff ;)
[09:34] <drako> god damnit, can anyone tell me if www.ubuntuguide.org is down or what?
[09:34] <alienseer23> I was told they are the same?
[09:34] <fyrestrtr> alienseer23: no, they are not.
[09:34] <foxjwill> hi, I'm new to IRC
[09:34] <foxjwill> how do i ask for help?
[09:34] <mheath> drako, if (siteDoesn'tWork()) return siteDown;
[09:35] <foxjwill> clear
[09:35] <fyrestrtr> !ask
[09:35] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:35] <foxjwill> ok
[09:35] <alienseer23> so the file i get from nvidia.com is totally different than glx in the universe repos?
[09:35] <foxjwill> thanks
[09:35] <drako> mheath: gotcha... thank you.
[09:35] <fyrestrtr> alienseer23: yes.
[09:35] <foxjwill> I'm stuck in command line mode
[09:35] <mheath> foxjwill, Are we CLEAR?
[09:35] <foxjwill> It won't let me boot into gnome
[09:35] <foxjwill> sorry, that was a mistype
[09:35] <mheath> Sorry, bad movie reference. Not too evident either.
[09:36] <foxjwill> 'tis k
[09:36] <alienseer23> where does the repo come from then?
[09:36] <fyrestrtr> foxjwill: did you do anything to the xserver settings?
[09:36] <foxjwill> I don't know
[09:36] <fyrestrtr> alienseer23: repoland
[09:36] <alienseer23> nice
[09:37] <fyrestrtr> alienseer23: when a male repo and a female repo really love each other......
[09:37] <mheath> fyrestrtr, do the repos that come to your how to reposess property grind it up and put it in repoland?
[09:37] <mheath> *house
[09:37] <fyrestrtr> mheath: when a male repo and a female repo really love each other......
[09:37] <alienseer23> I was told (in here) that they are the same files?
[09:37] <mheath> I don't think I can contribute anything producitve to this channel at 1:30AM.
[09:37] <fyrestrtr> alienseer23: what version drivers do you have? (glxinfo will tell you)
[09:38] <foxjwill> I accidently installed edgy part-way. Basically, I put it into the /etc/apt/sources.list file at instructions to install gnucash. Everything went downhill from there
[09:38] <fyrestrtr> ooooh dear @ "accidentally" installed edgy "part-way"
[09:38] <foxjwill> i know
[09:38] <drako> Ok ... anyone know a mirror for ubuntuguide with drapper info?
[09:38] <alienseer23> server glx version string: 1.4   that?
[09:39] <zcat[1] > rofl... backup your files and reinstall.. there's no going back!
[09:39] <fyrestrtr> alienseer23: OpenGL version string: 1.2 (2.0.2 NVIDIA 87.62)
[09:39] <twa1296> drako try this http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper
[09:39] <twa1296> drako, although that site seems down as well :-(
[09:39] <CheetahMk2> Hm.... how do I enable my wireless card on Ubutu server, CLI only? In "lspci -v | less" it says 'disabled'. How do I enable it? It isn't showing up in "iwconfig"
[09:39] <alienseer23> OpenGL version string: 2.0.2 NVIDIA 87.62
[09:40] <mheath> CheetahMk2, what kind of card is it?
[09:40] <foxjwill> um, am i the one who's supposed to backup and reinstall?
[09:40] <drako> twa1296: down too
[09:40] <CheetahMk2> Atheros
[09:40] <fyrestrtr> alienseer23: do you have the nvidia control panel?
[09:40] <BeepAU> ok, i'm trying to unpack limewire using xarchiver, and it's tell me permission denied. how do i give it permission?
[09:40] <alienseer23> yeah
[09:40] <CheetahMk2> Did I miss something when installing it? It's detected just fine when I eject and inset it.
[09:40] <fyrestrtr> alienseer23: it should be in Applications > System Tools
[09:40] <alienseer23> wait
[09:40] <printk> foxjwill: who else is going to do it? :)
[09:40] <fyrestrtr> BeepAU: use frostwire instead
[09:41] <foxjwill> ok, i wasn't sure you were talking to me
[09:41] <TheGame> how slow is windows on vmware
[09:41] <printk> oh\
[09:41] <fyrestrtr> TheGame: how fast is your pc and how much ram do you have?
[09:41] <foxjwill> anyway, I don't exactly, um, know how to backaup...and uninstall.
[09:41] <TheGame> 1gb 2.2ghz
[09:41] <BeepAU> fyrestrtr -- what's frostwire?
[09:41] <alienseer23> no, I don't
[09:41] <foxjwill> >_<
[09:41] <TheGame> BeepAU: its a limewire alternative
[09:41] <alienseer23> but I know I have it
[09:42] <alienseer23> I can bring it up from the terminal
[09:42] <fyrestrtr> limewire -- but works nicely in ubuntu
[09:42] <fyrestrtr> !frostwire
[09:42] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[09:42] <foxjwill> isn't limewire totally open source?
[09:42] <fyrestrtr> foxjwill: don't think so.
[09:42] <alienseer23> but i forgot the comman
[09:42] <fyrestrtr> alienseer23: okay, you should be able to set your tv options from there then.
[09:42] <foxjwill> i'm pretty sure that's what it said on wikipedia
[09:42] <foxjwill> but, eh
[09:43] <alienseer23> what is the command to bring it up?
[09:43] <foxjwill> anyway, how do backup and reinstall dapper?
[09:43] <Tsukino> how can I change sources in apt-get? I find addresses on sites, but I don't know how to switch
[09:43] <foxjwill> or should i get edgy?
[09:43] <TheGame> dont get edgy
[09:43] <foxjwill> ok
[09:44] <TheGame> u have to edit your sources list
[09:44] <TheGame> and add those sites to it
[09:44] <foxjwill> TheGame: me? what sources?
[09:44] <drako> 90% of the #ubuntu community need ubuntuguide.org and wont do that kind of question on here
[09:45] <fyrestrtr> foxjwill: stick with dapper
[09:45] <foxjwill> ok
[09:45] <foxjwill> so, how do i backup?
[09:45] <foxjwill> my system?
[09:45] <ice_1963> well in ubuntu it has nano right use it...nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:45] <foxjwill> through the command line
[09:45] <drako> foxjwill: belive me, at this point,, you dont need too :)
[09:45] <CheetahMk2> ubuntuguide.org is down : (
[09:45] <zcat[1] > foxjwill: how much of edgy did you actually install?
[09:46] <foxjwill> dunno
[09:46] <Hit3k> cp * /dev/null hahah kidding dont do that..
[09:46] <Hit3k> seriosuly
[09:46] <Hit3k> dont you'll get me in trouble
[09:46] <drako> bna!
[09:46] <drako> klien!
[09:46] <Tsukino> which directory is the sources list in?
[09:46] <drako> !dei!
[09:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about dei! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:46] <drako> Tsukino: /etc/apt
[09:46] <alienseer23> do I need an nforce chipset driver?
[09:46] <twa1296> tuskino /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:47] <Hit3k> Tsukasa, /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:47] <Hit3k> blah
[09:47] <Hit3k> freaking tab key
[09:47] <foxjwill> i pressed mark updates on synaptic (this was before I realized what edgy was) and part way through it stopped working
[09:47] <fyrestrtr> !enter
[09:47] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[09:48] <qos> i know it's possible to change the umask for samba shares, but i need to change the umask for each direactory individually in the share. is this possible?
[09:49] <zcat[1] > anyone got a nice script to bulk-convert ogg to mp3? (Yeah, I know... but a friend has ripped a lot of CD's to ogg and now wants to play them on his car mp3 player...)
[09:49] <alienseer23> in the glx package, they install the nforce and the gforce drivers at the same time, right?
[09:49] <alienseer23> but they are still different drivers?
[09:50] <qos> zcat[1] , google "ogg2mp3"
[09:50] <fyrestrtr> qos: no, umask doesn't work like that.
[09:50] <zcat[1] > I sould probably just search that in synaptic :)
[09:50] <davin> I need to have the C compiler (make), wasn't it build-essential?
[09:50] <zcat[1] > *should
[09:51] <zcat[1] > !b-e
[09:51] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:51] <davin> thx
[09:51] <qos> fyrestrtr, thats a problem. i have a home share where every file/dir get created with rw-rw---- . within that share is another dir, but there the files must get other permissions :( any ideas?
[09:51] <foxjwill> ?
[09:51] <twa1296> zcat[1] , this script has worked for me before: http://freshmeat.net/projects/audio-convert/
[09:51] <Tsukino> does the directory need to be /var/vm for VMware, or can I make a different one for it?
[09:52] <foxjwill> exit
[09:52] <zcat[1] > sweet.. checking it out now.
[09:52] <davin> yea it was build-essential
[09:52] <foxjwill> so, how do i backup? or do i have to?
[09:52] <DanaG> What does this new Edgy Eft give over Dapper Drake?
[09:53] <zcat[1] > DanaG: at the moment, instability and pain...
[09:53] <Kagar> Hello
[09:53] <angga> ojoipdajg o] 
[09:53] <angga> fucked me!!!!!
[09:54] <foxjwill> so, is there anyone still here who read my original question?
[09:54] <zcat[1] > edgy will be a really sweet release.. in about another three months. Right now it's only for developers and masochists
[09:54] <Kagar> Question: Is there an easier way of installing GCC than having to go through these steps?
[09:54] <Kagar> http://gcc.gnu.org/install/configure.html
[09:54] <frying_fish> Kagar: yes, there is a package for it in the repositories
[09:54] <crimsun> Kagar: aptitude install build-essential
[09:54] <frying_fish> and it should be part of the meta-package build-essential
[09:54] <drako> why you cant install nvidia-glx and nvidia-settings together?
[09:54] <Kagar> I tried apt-get isntall gcc
[09:55] <Kagar> But, leme check the repos.
[09:55] <zcat[1] > Kagar: apt-get install build-essential
[09:55] <crimsun> drako: because nvidia-settings was rolled into nvidia-glx. The former is from the Breezy days and is obsoleted.
[09:55] <crimsun> sorry, the latter ^
[09:55] <drako> crimsun: thank you.
[09:56] <TheGame> is there a script where i can right click an iso and have it say Mount this file
[09:56] <Kagar> All right, I get this as a result - E: Couldn't find package build-essential
[09:56] <foxjwill> I accidently installed edgy part-way. Basically, I put it into the /etc/apt/sources.list file at instructions to install gnucash. Everything went downhill from there
[09:56] <foxjwill> so, can someone help?
[09:56] <frying_fish> TheGame: that would be nice, I am sure you could write one quick enough in bash, but a program that did it would be sweet
[09:56] <farous> Kagar: it has to be network issue
[09:57] <TheGame> hmm
[09:57] <Kagar> Any port I should open
[09:57] <Kagar> ?
[09:57] <twa1296> TheGame http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87369&
[09:57] <farous> Kagar: try sudp apt-get update
[09:57] <TheGame> thanks
[09:57] <Kagar> sudp or sudo
[09:57] <farous> sudo sorry
[09:57] <Madpilot> foxjwill, there is no easy way to roll back a dist-upgrade like that - you might have to just re-install Dapper
[09:57] <gdb> TheGame: Well, I don't know of a script to do that, but it's easy from the command line.  If you just want to browse the files in it, however, you can simply double click it and it will open in Archive Manager.  To mount it, you do this: mount -t iso9660 -o ro,loop nameoffile.iso /mnt/point
[09:57] <Kagar> ...Done
[09:57] <foxjwill> how do i do that?
[09:57] <frying_fish> foxjwill: does the system boot? or have you not yet shutdown, if so you could go into synaptic and try and revert all packages to their previous versions
[09:57] <farous> Kagar: did you get any errors
[09:57] <frying_fish> aslong as you change your sources back to dapper
[09:57] <Kagar> no
[09:57] <foxjwill> madpilot: how do i do that?
[09:58] <farous> Kagar: build-essential is in the main repos did you manipulate your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[09:58] <zcat[1] > foxjwill: copy your /home to another machine and reinstall. If you're brave boot the live cd, move everything (/*) into a /backup directory and do a clean install _without_ formatting the drive, you can then copy /home and most of your settings back again and rm the rest
[09:58] <gdb> foxjwill: How do you reinstall dapper?  Insert the CD and press the reset button.  Follow the on-screen instructions. ;-)
[09:58] <Madpilot> foxjwill, same way you installed it in the first place, but you can keep your existing partition structure if you've got seperate /home or /swap or such
[09:58] <Kagar> I commented out my Deb-src's and drb
[09:58] <Kagar> deb*
[09:59] <foxjwill> thanks
[09:59] <gdb> I keep /home on /dev/md0 and leave /dev/sda for the OS.
[09:59] <farous> Kagar: you need the deb repos to be uncommented
[09:59] <farous> the main
[09:59] <farous> one
[09:59] <Kagar> farous: will I need my media disc? I had given it to some random guy I met a coffee shop.
[09:59] <nalpha> guys i want to install fedora directory server btw i'm follow the instruction and get stuck while running termcap-compat because they need libc5 btw i already install libc6 why still can't yah??
[09:59] <farous> Kagar: nope you do not need it
[09:59] <farous> Kagar: and you can comment the line that say cd in the file
[10:00] <Kagar> okay, so I only need to comment out the media disc on
[10:00] <Kagar> one*
[10:00] <hans_> hey
[10:00] <hans_> the main goal of edgy will be the multi platform
[10:00] <hans_> can someone explane that to me :)
[10:01] <TheGame> twa1296:  how do i make a script executable
[10:01] <Madpilot> hans_, which page are you reading?
[10:01] <gdb> TheGame: chmod +x script_file.sh
[10:01] <farous> you need to enable the repos that have the packages you need
[10:01] <farous> !easysource > Kagar:
[10:01] <farous> check ubotu link Kagar
[10:01] <DanaG> Hey, have any of you managed to get multichannel audio working properly in ALSA?
[10:01] <hans_> hmm, I'm not reading a page... I heard it on an other forum
[10:01] <gdb> hans_: means "supporting more then one type of computer where computer type is 'intel, ppc, sparc, etc'"
[10:02] <twa1296> TheGame chmod +x name_of_script
[10:02] <hans_> ok thanks
[10:03] <TheGame> ok
[10:03] <TheGame> let me see
[10:03] <Kagar> farous: thanks
[10:04] <farous> Kagar: ur welcomed normally you need main universe multiverse restricted and the security update repos
[10:04] <hans_> another question, will xgl be implemented in Edgy?
[10:05] <viviersf> xgl = beta software
[10:05] <viviersf> :/
[10:06] <hans_> I thought it was one of the main goals of edgy
[10:06] <Madpilot> hans_, not by default, certainly
[10:07] <DrAk0> anyone using 2 monitors ?
[10:07] <nalpha> nop
[10:08] <hans_> I understand, but maybe there will be one .deb package to instal it from the official respositorys
[10:08] <marmll> hi, i have just installed sun-jdk1.5.0 using apt-get install, but i cannot figure out how to install sun-jdk1.5.0-doc.
[10:09] <marmll> does anybody hava an idea how to do this on dapper?
[10:09] <TheGame> where is ~gnome
[10:09] <TheGame> where is /~gnome2
[10:09] <TheGame> is what i meant
[10:09] <andareil_> Which is the best irc client on the linux platform?
[10:09] <Subhuman> marmll, "apt-cache search sun-jdk"
[10:09] <[b] urk> you mean .gnome2?
[10:09] <zcat[1] > TheGame: perhaps you mean ~/.gnome2 ?
[10:10] <marmll> subhuman: thx, i am trying ...
[10:10] <Subhuman> marmll, it wont install it, but itll tell you which packahe to get
[10:10] <theLOCUST> i'm sure you've all been asked this question a thousand times. but i was wondering if it is at all fruitful to try and get itunes sharing working in ubuntu dapper with rhythmbox
[10:10] <Subhuman> !itunes
[10:10] <ubotu> itunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee
[10:10] <gogeta> hi
[10:10] <TheGame> yes
[10:11] <theLOCUST> haha
[10:11] <gogeta> i got a good one
[10:11] <theLOCUST> thanks
[10:11] <Subhuman> theLOCUST, banshee does it.
[10:11] <TheGame> where can i find it
[10:11] <andareil_> anything better than xchat
[10:11] <theLOCUST> banshee?
[10:11] <zcat[1] > TheGame: files and directories starting with . are hidden.. ls -a in the shell or 'show hidden files' in nautilus to see them
[10:11] <gogeta> video bios faler on the cd
[10:11] <hans_> !players
[10:11] <Subhuman> "sudo apt-get install banshee"
[10:11] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[10:11] <CheetahMk2> So... can anyone help me with how I get an Atheros card working on Ubuntu from the CLI? It would be appreciated. I can't apt-get until I get the wifi (WPA) connection up.
[10:11] <andareil_> !irc
[10:11] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[10:11] <marmll> subhuman, if i do so i get no output. or do i have to add another thing to /etc/apt/source.list?
[10:11] <TheGame> but where is /~.gnome2
[10:12] <theLOCUST> Subhuman, hmm couldn't find package banshee
[10:12] <TheGame> in which dire
[10:12] <Subhuman> marmll, j2sdk1.4-doc - Java(TM) 2 SDK, Standard Edition -- Documentation Installer
[10:12] <Madpilot> TheGame, ~/.gnome2 is in your home directory; it's a hidden file - the . in front of the name means hidden
[10:12] <zcat[1] > drwx------ 18 zcat zcat       824 2006-08-05 19:16 .gnome2
[10:12] <Subhuman> thats the packahge
[10:12] <gogeta> lol
[10:12] <zcat[1] > In your home directory
[10:12] <gogeta> anyone knoe my problem
[10:12] <TheGame> ok thanks
[10:12] <gogeta> seems to affect the newer kernel
[10:13] <gogeta> failes to load my cards video bios
[10:13] <gogeta> meaning x whont start in any mode
[10:13] <Subhuman> theLOCUST, you enabled universe/multiverse? look how to do that ( very easy) then install "banshee" and "banshee-daap" in apt or synaptic
[10:14] <theLOCUST> ok, thanks Subhuman
[10:14] <marmll> subhuman, i do not get this output. also aptitude  search j2sdk does not give any output
[10:15] <Subhuman> marmll, you have universe/multiverse enabled?
[10:15] <zcat[1] > hmmm.. philip has attempted to convert some of his music by renaming the .ogg files to .mp3... It doesn't appear to have worked though :)
[10:15] <Subhuman> marmll, if not, use easysource to generate a sources.list for ya
[10:15] <Subhuman> !easysource
[10:15] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:15] <fyrestrtr> marmll: apt-cache search sun-java
[10:15] <marmll> yes, at least it think so: deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main multiverse okay, maybe i will add universe at well
[10:16] <marmll> ups must be dapper and not dapper-backports i think
[10:16] <zcat[1] > marmll: add seveas too.. I think sun's java is in there
[10:17] <zcat[1] > deb http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/ dapper-seveas all
[10:17] <marmll> zcat, fyresrtr thx
[10:18] <arnducky> Is there a way to 'fix' a very customized (read messed up) pre-stable install of Dapper Drake that will restore all 'user-stupid' default settings?
[10:18] <Madpilot> zcat[1] , Sun's Java is in the regular Ubuntu archives now
[10:18] <Madpilot> !java
[10:18] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[10:18] <zcat[1] > ahh, cool.
[10:18] <andareil__> !guidelines
[10:18] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:18] <Madpilot> in Multiverse
[10:18] <zcat[1] > still seveas is good to have :)
[10:22] <vvken> hello everyone
[10:23] <DanaG> Would there be any advantage to compiling things like yenta-socket into the kernel rather than as modules?
[10:26] <mjmartin> ola
[10:27] <IRCMonkeyX> hi, i have a tar.gz file inu my desktop, how will i install it ?
[10:27] <bejo> hi
[10:27] <IRCMonkeyX> hi, i have a tar.gz file in my desktop, how will i install it ?
[10:27] <tuna> what does it contain?
[10:27] <IRCMonkeyX> mozilla setup
[10:27] <bejo> hi rem
[10:27] <tuna> source or what?
[10:27] <bejo> hi salah
[10:27] <IRCMonkeyX> source, it is 13.4 mb
[10:28] <thejusticecow> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH <-- how do i fix this?
[10:28] <tuna> wait a sec
[10:28] <IRCMonkeyX> oki
[10:28] <bejo> any one wanna chat?
[10:28] <Madpilot> thejusticecow, have you installed build-essential to get all the compiling stuff?
[10:28] <ice_1963> how can i make a image-iso cd with gnome?
[10:28] <salah> hi bejo
[10:29] <thejusticecow> Madpilot: nope, can i sudo apt-get it?
[10:29] <bejo> hi salah
[10:29] <IRCMonkeyX> bejo try ubuntu-offtopic
[10:29] <Madpilot> thejusticecow, yes
[10:29] <bejo> from where
[10:29] <thejusticecow> sweet
[10:29] <Madpilot> bejo, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat & socializing, please
[10:29] <DanaG> hmm, I still don't know.  Would there be any advantage to compiling things like yenta-socket into the kernel rather than as modules?
[10:29] <twa1296> ice_1963, right-click the iso file and select 'write to disc'
[10:29] <tuna> ircmonkey, I noticed theres mozilla in the repositories
[10:30] <IRCMonkeyX> tuna: is it universe ?
[10:30] <tuna> is there any reason you'd rather install from source?
[10:30] <Madpilot> !info mozilla
[10:30] <ubotu> mozilla: The Mozilla Internet application suite - meta package. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2:1.7.12-1.1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB
[10:30] <Madpilot> IRCMonkeyX, yes, it's in Universe
[10:30] <Tsukino> weird, I'm trying to unpack these vmware files, but I get some errors in the process, and I'm running under root power
[10:30] <ice_1963> twa1296: ok i will try that t/u
[10:30] <bejo> i`m new in this chat
[10:30] <tuna> sudo apt-get mozilla-browser should do it
[10:31] <IRCMonkeyX> Madpilot: i forgot the command , sudo apt-get install file.tar.gz ?? is it correct ?
[10:31] <tuna> no
[10:31] <bejo> can any one help me
[10:31] <Madpilot> IRCMonkeyX, no, just 'sudo apt-get install mozilla'
[10:31] <IRCMonkeyX> but i have already downloaded it on my desktop
[10:31] <Madpilot> bejo, help with what? If you ask a question first, you might get actual help
[10:31] <Madpilot> IRCMonkeyX, you don't need to do that - apt-get gets the files from repos
[10:32] <IRCMonkeyX> madpilot: how can i install it from my desktop ;?
[10:32] <Madpilot> IRCMonkeyX, you don't need to, that's what apt-get is for...
[10:32] <bejo> how can i make a private chat withe anthor user :?
[10:33] <Tsukino> tar xvfz VMware-server-1.0.0-28343.tar.gz gives me errors while unpacking the file =/
[10:33] <mwe> IRCMonkeyX: you shouldn't manually install things that are in the package system
[10:33] <theLOCUST> Subhuman, is there a certain port i have to forward to be able to see others itunes music shares?
[10:33] <bejo> salah
[10:33] <DanaG> anyone?  ...
[10:33] <IRCMonkeyX> friends, what is setup.exe equality in ubuntu:?
[10:33] <Subhuman> theLOCUST, no idea, might be worth searching on www.ubuntuforums.org
[10:34] <salah> bejo, yes, do I know you?
[10:34] <bejo> hello danag
[10:34] <Subhuman> IRCMonkeyX, dpkg
[10:34] <Subhuman> !dpkg
[10:34] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[10:34] <bejo> no
[10:34] <alienseer23> hello
[10:34] <Madpilot> IRCMonkeyX, apt-get is
[10:34] <bejo> but we can do thiss:))))
[10:35] <IRCMonkeyX> sorry for asking again, but i wanna learn, there is no chance to install it from my desktop ??
[10:35] <zugu> hi all
[10:35] <bejo> hi zugu
[10:35] <alienseer23> i tried to re-install the nvidia drivers using the package from their websight, but it said that i needed to check that i had my distros proper libc <?> installed and that cc was valid in it?? help?
[10:35] <Madpilot> IRCMonkeyX, you could, but there's no reason to
[10:35] <Madpilot> let apt-get do all the work, that's what it's for
[10:36] <IRCMonkeyX> madpilot: i dont wanna download the setup again, that's why i am asking
[10:36] <bejo> any one wanna chat with me
[10:36] <IRCMonkeyX> bejo: pls use off-topic
[10:36] <bejo> i`m moustafa from egypt
[10:37] <Madpilot> bejo, this is a tech support channel - for social chat, please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:37] <bejo> ok
[10:37] <dixie> :-)
[10:37] <Madpilot> IRCMonkeyX, apt-get (or Synaptic) is the easiest way to do things - but yes, this time you will have to re-download some things
[10:38] <IRCMonkeyX> madpilot: do i need to use internet for every installing?? what if i wanna install the things from a cd ?
[10:38] <ice_1963> i use the nvidia one liner to install it :)
[10:39] <alienseer23> i tried to re-install the nvidia drivers using the package from their websight, but it said that i needed to check that i had my distros proper libc <?> installed and that cc was valid in it?? help?
[10:40] <mixandgo> hello, any ideea how to convert bbdb contacts to evolution ?
[10:40] <Madpilot> IRCMonkeyX, apt-get is designed to download from the repositories
[10:40] <ice_1963> if your nuning ubuntu you can jest apt-get it
[10:41] <ice_1963> alienseer23: right
[10:41] <IRCMonkeyX> madpilot: when i say sudo apt-get mozilla-browser   it says this "E: Invalid operation mozilla-browser"
[10:41] <alienseer23> ice, right
[10:41] <twa1296> IRCMonkeyX, sudo apt-get install mozilla-browse
[10:42] <Madpilot> IRCMonkeyX, "sudo apt-get install" - you forgot the 'install' part
[10:42] <alienseer23> but, i was led to believe that the file from nvidia, the package had more in it, such as a gui.
[10:43] <i_b0t> hi, does anybody know how to get the system tray back when you wrongly removed it from the menu??
[10:44] <IRCMonkeyX> madpilot: thanx
[10:44] <ice_1963> alienseer23: if i was you i'd jest use synaptic and install that way :)
[10:44] <thejusticecow> *** Could not run GLIB test program, checking why...
[10:44] <thejusticecow> *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the
[10:44] <thejusticecow> *** exact error that occured. This usually means GLIB is incorrectly installed. <---- how do i fix this?
[10:44] <enyc> i_b0t: its probably not called 'system tray'
[10:44] <enyc> i_b0t: whan exactle have you lost?
[10:44] <twa1296> i_b0t, right-click the panel -> add to panel and add the notification tray
[10:44] <enyc> i_b0t: i_b0t you probably have to right clik and 'add to panel _something_
[10:44] <i_b0t> in my right click menu there is no notification
[10:45] <i_b0t> thin
[10:45] <i_b0t> ...thing
[10:45] <archlyric> oh dear... i installed my fglrx driver and now my lcd screen keeps on going out of sync, any suggestions?
[10:45] <ice_1963> alienseer23: or adept
[10:45] <thunder> hi
[10:45] <enyc> archlyric: change the video refresh ;-)
[10:45] <alienseer23> i am looking for a config interface that i need to adjust tv out settings, apparently it comes with the file from nvidia.com, I am having alot of problems configuring my monitors and tv
[10:45] <archlyric> enyc i cant find the option in the xorg.conf
[10:45] <enyc> archlyric: or... change the vsync limits in your xorg config (sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg)
[10:46] <archlyric> tried that
[10:46] <twa1296> i_b0t, are you sure you're right-clicking the panel and not a window task box?
[10:46] <enyc> archlyric: you can set 'advanced' monitor settings
[10:46] <thunder> does Anyone know  where to download a music player for Ubuntu?
[10:46] <enyc> archlyric: and set H and V timing limits there
[10:46] <Tsukino> tar xvfz VMware-server-1.0.0-28343.tar.gz gives me errors while unpacking the file =/ and there's no ./vmware-install.pl to run
[10:46] <thunder> I need to hear my WMA type
[10:46] <archlyric> hmm i forgot what runtime i was in
[10:46] <enyc> Tsukino: errors unpacking es the problem
[10:46] <archlyric> brb
[10:46] <archlyric> init 3........
[10:46] <enyc> Tsukino: fix that first... amybe you have an incomplete or corrupted download
[10:46] <i_b0t> twa1296: yes, its the add-to panel menu ...
[10:47] <Skygge__> Hey, I'm wanting to compare the text in two text files, and see the differences. i'm pretty sure there's a command to do this, anyone know it?
[10:48] <enyc> Skygge__: diff ;-)
[10:48] <twa1296> i_b0t, you got the add-to-panel menu open? the system try is at the bottom under 'utilities', it's called 'notification area'
[10:48] <IAskew> thunder, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=177646 for the codecs for WMA, then install xmms (sudo apt-get install xmms)
[10:48] <Skygge__> enyc, thanks
[10:48] <Skygge__> figured it'd be something similar
[10:48] <enyc> Skygge__: diff is used to create the '.patch' files you see around (known as diff's)
[10:48] <ice_1963> alienseer23: what is your card geforce4 mx 4000?
[10:49] <Skygge__> it should do I think. I have two .ldif addressbook files, and they're very similar, but want to find the differences.
[10:50] <i_b0t> twa1296: i added now this notification area and it seem to work! thank you :)
[10:50] <alienseer23> gforce 6200
[10:50] <twa1296> np
[10:51] <jme> anyone use the Ion WM?
[10:52] <jme> !ion
[10:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about ion - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:52] <jme> heh
[10:52] <ice_1963> jme: do you mean wmaker?
[10:53] <jme> no, it's the Ion window manager
[10:53] <thejusticecow> is there someone here running xchat that can help me for a sec?
[10:53] <jme> http://www.modeemi.fi/~tuomov/ion/
[10:53] <noiesmo> thejusticecow, yeh whats up
[10:53] <jme> I'm running xchat on XP, but I might be helpful, thejusticecow
[10:53] <thejusticecow> i dont think you can help if on xp sorry
[10:53] <thejusticecow> noiesmo: i cant find the package so i am trying to compile myself
[10:54] <jme> oh, I'm not in your secret club
[10:54] <noiesmo> !xchat
[10:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about xchat - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:54] <XPPRESP3> !postfix
[10:54] <ubotu> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Postfix or here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[10:54] <thejusticecow> noiesmo: but it says i need glib... and i cant find glib... how did you compile it?
[10:54] <Madpilot> thejusticecow, I'm running XChat in Ubuntu
[10:54] <slid3r> any one knoe what ::
[10:55] <slid3r> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-updates/restricted/source/Sources.gz  302 Moved Temporarily
[10:55] <slid3r> is about?
[10:55] <thejusticecow> Madpilot: did you have any trouble compiling it?
[10:55] <Madpilot> thejusticecow, XChat is in the Universe repo, no need to compile the thign
[10:55] <Madpilot> I've never compiled anything :)
[10:55] <jme> slid3r: you might just try later
[10:55] <thejusticecow> Madpilot: i dont know what the universe repo is?
[10:55] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell thejusticecow about universe
[10:55] <slid3r> jme that has happent to you b4?
[10:55] <jme> you're getting an error from the server telling you it was moved temporarily, so try later
[10:55] <slid3r> k
[10:56] <jme> not that particular error, but the servers can have trouble sometimes
[10:56] <slid3r> ok
[10:56] <slid3r> I will relax a bit then
[10:56] <noiesmo> thejusticecow, here 's a helpful link http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[10:57] <Tsukino> what command can do an md5 in linux?
[10:57] <slid3r> my router is saying this machine is "using a large number of simultaneous Internet sessions" and something about a blaster virus ...
[10:57] <slid3r> then all the sudden the repos are doing that
[10:57] <noiesmo> Tsukasa, md5sum maybe
[10:58] <BeepAU> can someone please help me install java?
[10:58] <CheetahMk2> Er.. is there an unmount command in Ubuntu? I just used Aptitude to reinstall the 'mount' package, but there is no 'unmount' command. It shows up red in LS. how to I get rid of a CD?
[10:58] <farous> !java
[10:58] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[10:58] <slid3r> umount
[10:58] <CheetahMk2> !mount
[10:58] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[10:58] <thejusticecow> noiesmo: how did you enable universe?
[10:58] <ice_1963> slid3r: on linux?
[10:58] <CheetahMk2> aha! Thank you!
[10:59] <IAskew> CheetahMk2, umount or eject
[10:59] <slid3r> CheetahMk2, its not "UN" its umount
[10:59] <ice_1963> lol
[10:59] <CheetahMk2> I feel silly.
[10:59] <slid3r> ice_1963, yeah I am runnin ubuntu dapper
[10:59] <noiesmo> thejusticecow, I edit my sources.list but can be done thru adapt
[10:59] <CheetahMk2> Now I can start working on installing drivers for the Atheros card.... for some reason, MadWifi says 'the package won't work on Ubuntu for dependency reasons'
[10:59] <Tsukino> the md5 matches =/
[11:00] <CheetahMk2> so I have to compile myself, which means I need to install Make, Configure, etc.... headaches.
[11:00] <slid3r> heh
[11:00] <CheetahMk2> ...and apparently I don't even have untar. ARGH
[11:00] <slid3r> the process is TRADITIONALY ...   ./configure  then make then make install
[11:01] <IAskew> CheetahMk2, tar untars files
[11:01] <slid3r> CheetahMk2, tar -zxvf
[11:01] <Madpilot> thejusticecow, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[11:01] <CheetahMk2> yeah, it's not installed. I am looking at it in Aptitude right now
[11:01] <CheetahMk2> I guess Server Ubuntu is *very* minimal.
[11:01] <slid3r> CheetahMk2, tar -zxvf file.tar.gz
[11:01] <slid3r> untar does not really exist
[11:02] <bony> slid3r: you have to install it
[11:02] <slid3r> scept as some bash scripts I have written in the past
[11:02] <slid3r> install what, untar?
[11:02] <bony> slid3r: yes
[11:02] <CheetahMk2>  slid3r   Thanks for the CLI, but I was working from a Server Ubuntu install, so it's bare bones
[11:02] <slid3r> mmm k
[11:03] <djang0> um, install untar?
[11:03] <CheetahMk2> no, no, TAR : )
[11:03] <slid3r> I like tar -zxvf mah sef but
[11:03] <CheetahMk2> there's a (p) next to it in Aptitude
[11:03] <djang0> i was about to say ...
[11:03] <djang0> CheetahMk2, lol *i* know, didn't want newbs out searching for untar
[11:04] <CheetahMk2> Nah, I'm too busy trying to find headlamp fluid. : p
[11:04] <djang0> hell of a high, I guess ;)
[11:04] <hallon> Heh, whats the big difference between ubuntu and debian? Im considering trying it out today.
[11:04] <djang0> hallon, not much at all
[11:04] <djang0> hallon, go the ubuntu
[11:04] <CheetahMk2> Ubuntu is Debian on steroids, I've heard.
[11:04] <hallon> Sign me up.
[11:04] <hallon> :)
[11:05] <slid3r> less config work outta the box?
[11:05] <djang0> install that puppy!
[11:05] <CheetahMk2> I'm still trying to get the wifi card I have working : /
[11:05] <CheetahMk2> but then again, I'm used to plug&pray
[11:05] <Lynoure> CheetahMk2: Not on steroids... Debian prettyfied and unified, more like it.
[11:05] <hallon> I shall, but i guess i will come in here looking like a loser not knowing anything. Anyways, ill get into it. Heh, just a quick tip before going any further, why cant rhythmbox play mp3?
[11:06] <djang0> hallon, dunno, but i always use xmms
[11:06] <IAskew> hallon, google 'automatix'
[11:06] <djang0> oh god, the only thing i hate about ubuntu ;)
[11:06] <Madpilot> hallon, mp3 isn't free, so Ubuntu can't play it by default
[11:06] <Madpilot> hallon, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - and please avoid automatix, it breaks Ubuntu systems... :|
[11:07] <djang0> Madpilot, seconded
[11:07] <IAskew> Madpilot, its never harmed my systems
[11:07] <Tsukino> tar: vmware-server-distrib/vmware-install.pl: Cannot create symlink to `bin/vmware-uninstall.pl': Operation not permitted
[11:07] <Tsukino> that's one of the errors I get while trying to unpack the file
[11:07] <slid3r> so  ... dumb question (really dumb prolly) is it possible I have a virus?
[11:08] <Madpilot> IAskew, lucky you. I've seen to many people arrive here and go, "I just ran this script, and now <something> doesn't work..."
[11:08] <Tsukino> the md5 matched what was on the server
[11:08] <djang0> IAskew, you may have some experience. I have given ubuntu to non-technical users, all good except when they tried to get into the automatic configuration crap
[11:08] <IAskew> dont have a prob with automatix or easy-ubuntu tbh
[11:08] <IAskew> ymmv i guess
[11:08] <mof> Hi is there a reason TrueCrypt is not included in the repositories?
[11:08] <theLOCUST> ok, does anyone have sharing working in banshee or rhythmbox
[11:08] <djang0> IAskew, end result is i spend more time helping/setting them up than i would have if i just gave em doze and a spyware cleaner :)
[11:08] <theLOCUST> i can see the shares but not the files inside
[11:09] <djang0> mof, you have universe, multiverse repos?
[11:10] <xopher> Tsukino, tried running installer with sudo? ..
[11:10] <mof> yes all except community kept security
[11:11] <Tsukino> sudo gave me more errors, so I've been running sudo su to give me temporary root powers like the guide says
[11:11] <djang0> Tsukasa, hmm i just run sudo -i and am done with it ;)
[11:11] <sn00p> does anybody know how to set eterm to a certain color without changing the background everytime you start eterm?
[11:11] <DanaG> Damn, it looks like 2.6.17 still doesn't have Yonah tables
[11:11] <hallon> Whats the root password_
[11:11] <djang0> Not recommended!!
[11:11] <djang0> hallon, your user passwd
[11:12] <Madpilot> hallon, there isn't one
[11:12] <Madpilot> !root
[11:12] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:12] <Tsukino> it gives errors on some files like incorrect parameters and such while unpacking the files
[11:12] <hallon> Thanks.
[11:12] <xopher> Right..
[11:12] <mof> oops yes all except the 'community updated security updates' i think it's called. Would it be there?
[11:13] <Tsukino> http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_vmware_server is the guide I've been following
[11:16] <hallon> Do i need to upgrade my sources.list or anything because i Im getting "E: Method http has died unexpectedly"
[11:16] <Dodzey> hey, got a bit of strange problem, the update notification icon is opening synaptic now instead of Update Manager....any ideas?
[11:19] <thejusticecow> noiesmo: holly crap... there is like 5 billion apps i didnt know you could apt-get... you have unleased the flood gates of heaven upon me
[11:20] <mwe> 
[11:20] <slid3r> whoa
[11:20] <slid3r> nice emoticon
[11:20] <Madpilot> thejusticecow, Universe is full of stuff :)
[11:20] <Tsukino> it's Japanese
[11:20] <FantasticFoo> anyone know how to change display brightness with a key on the keyboard, quickly?
[11:20] <mwe> it's katakana
[11:20] <thejusticecow> Madpilot: indeed... :D
[11:20] <slid3r> anyone ever install the 'Virus Scanner'
[11:21] <slid3r> its under accessories
[11:21] <slid3r> but its not there in my applications list
[11:21] <hawkaloogie> FantasticFoo, hiding your porn addiction?
[11:21] <FantasticFoo> hawkaloogie: lol
[11:21] <MatthewV> slid3r, no, I haven't, but its probably clamav,
[11:21] <MatthewV> !info clamav
[11:21] <ubotu> clamav: antivirus scanner for Unix. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.88.2-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 64 kB, installed size 200 kB
[11:21] <hallon> As said, anyone know why i get "E: Method http has died unexpectedly" when trying to "apt-get update"?
[11:22] <gdb> FantasticFoo: Yeah, click the power button on the monitor.
[11:22] <FantasticFoo> sometimes late at night i like to adjust my screen's brightness so it doesn't give me a goddamn headache
[11:22] <MatthewV> slid3r, hmm.. no its aegis...
[11:22] <gdb> FantasticFoo: However, you're still going to get asked what you were looking at.
[11:22] <mwe> hallon: it probably means it couldn't connect
[11:22] <hallon> Yeah, should i upgrade my sources.list by hand? :)
[11:22] <slid3r> yuh but I cant see where it installed it
[11:23] <mwe> hallon: if you paste in at paste.ubuntu-nl.org I'll tell you
[11:23] <gdb> FantasticFoo: If it's a laptop, that's built into the hardware.  Otherwise, you're going to have to use your monitor's controls.
[11:23] <MatthewV> slid3r, just try hitting alt-F2, and then typing in aegis, and hitting enter
[11:23] <ricardo> hi everybody..i have dual boot win xp....is it possible to take some ntfs GBytes, reformat them to ext2 merge them with the linux partition (from linux)?
[11:23] <FantasticFoo> mac os x gives you F14 and F15 to adjust screen brightness, and since i'm on an apple, i can't just adjust it with controls
[11:23] <slid3r> heh
[11:23] <gdb> FantasticFoo: doh!
[11:23] <slid3r> ok will do
[11:23] <FantasticFoo> gdb: doh?
[11:23] <sn00p> does anybody know how to set eterm to a certain color without changing the background everytime you start eterm?
[11:23] <slid3r> worked
[11:24] <slid3r> thanks MatthewV
[11:24] <MatthewV> slid3r, if you want to add a menu entry, just right click the menu bar, (Applications   Places   System) and select edit menus
[11:24] <MatthewV> slid3r, no probs
[11:24] <hallon> mwe: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19922
[11:24] <slid3r> nice
[11:24] <slid3r> gooood info
[11:25] <mwe> hallon: it's broken
[11:25] <mwe> hallon: aren't you using dapper?
[11:25] <Quentusrex> how do you install nfs on ubuntu 6.06 from CLI?
[11:25] <mwe> !nfs
[11:25] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[11:25] <Quentusrex> is there a tutorial on the subject or a walkthrough?
[11:25] <mwe> Quentusrex: ^^
[11:25] <fyrestrtr> man I'm a ubuntu promoting fool. Everytime someone comes in my office, they see my workstation, I give them the 15 minute linux speech, and when they leave, they always ask for an install cd with a 'serial number that I will need'. I give them the dapper desktop cd that I burned. Distributed 4 copies in 2 days.
[11:25] <Quentusrex> thanks
[11:25] <FantasticFoo> somewhere i saw a .deb of some sort that allowed you to do what i want
[11:25] <hallon> I would guess so. Could i have some peek at what i should have? :)
[11:25] <FantasticFoo> i wondered if anybody here knew about it...
[11:25] <Quentusrex> I've been searching for almost 20 minutes for something like this.
[11:25] <hallon> mwe: Im not quite sure, it is a pretty old cd though.
[11:26] <Quentusrex> google didn't point to it on the first 40 links
[11:26] <mwe> hallon: type lsb_release -a in a terminal and tell me what it says
[11:27] <Dodzey> fyrestrtr, they get to used to typing in serials ^_^
[11:27] <hallon> Man, its even 4.10, aka warty.
[11:27] <fyrestrtr> Dodzey: lol yeah
[11:27] <mwe> hallon: get a recent cd and reinstall
[11:27] <DrAk0> I messed up /etc/gdm/gdm.conf and i had no backup, anyone please can send me it?
[11:27] <hallon> Cant. :/
[11:28] <hallon> Well, thanks anyways. :D
[11:28] <slid3r> this is by far the best linux chan I have ever been to
[11:28] <slid3r> not one flaming l33tist yet
[11:28] <watson540> fyrestrtr:: I sure hope you have xgl running on that 'show-off' box of yours :)
[11:28] <mwe> hallon: why can't you get a recent CD
[11:28] <fyrestrtr> watson540: you bet your sweet a** I do :D
[11:28] <hallon> mwe: I dont have a burner.
[11:29] <mwe> hallon: oh
[11:29] <watson540> fyrestrtr:: atta boy! rell them suckahs in!
[11:29] <watson540> s/reel ..even :)
[11:29] <mwe> hallon: do you have a second pc
[11:29] <fyrestrtr> watson540: the only downside to that is, I end up volunteering for tech support.
[11:29] <hallon> mwe: Nope. :P
[11:29] <twa1296> hallon: you can order them for free, takes weeks though
[11:29] <mwe> hallon: hmm
[11:29] <mwe> hallon: usb stick?
[11:29] <mof> Slid3r:ubuntu sucksorx gentoo rocks lol
[11:30] <slid3r> heh thanks man
[11:30] <watson540> although, i dont know the current status of koroora, but its a live cd with xgl built it, it didnt have all of xgl/compiz features when i tried it
[11:30] <hallon> mwe: No such thing. I could, though, burn a cd at my girlfriends house but its about a week until she comes home.
[11:30] <fyrestrtr> gentoo has one of the best linux wikis -- and also one of the best support chans on freenode, imnsho.
[11:30] <mwe> hallon: I'd do that
[11:30] <hallon> Ill just repair my debianinstall and continue to use it meanwhile. :)
[11:30] <watson540> and much tech support you must do fyrestrtr
[11:30] <dpupp> im trying to install 3ddesktop in ubuntu dapper but its saying its not found when i type: sudo apt-get install 3ddesktop
[11:31] <fyrestrtr> watson540: yeah, I do -- but I don't mind it.
[11:31] <daunt> yo
[11:31] <fyrestrtr> !info 3ddesktop
[11:31] <ubotu> 3ddesktop: "Three-dimensional" desktop switcher. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.2.9-5.1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 74 kB, installed size 448 kB
[11:31] <daunt> any reason not to do an apt-get dist-upgrade this morning?
[11:31] <twa1296> dpupp, do you have universe repositories enabled?
[11:31] <fyrestrtr> dpupp: enable universe and try again
[11:32] <daunt> !info tonto
[11:32] <ubotu> Package tonto does not exist in dapper
[11:32] <dpupp> i dont think i do.... i will try that. is there any risk involved in putting the universe repos?
[11:32] <fyrestrtr> dpupp: no
[11:32] <dpupp> rgr. will do right away ^_^
[11:32] <dpupp> thanks
[11:34] <a_l_e> hello, is there any way to avoid that a file manager window is opened for every partition newly mounted?
[11:36] <mjr> alindeman, system/preferences/media
[11:36] <slid3r> The file //media/hda1/Program Files/VideoLAN/VLC/plugins/libmarq_plugin.dll is infected with the W32/Magistr.a@MM virus!
[11:36] <slid3r> wow aegis is finding all kinds of shit on my NTFS drive lol
[11:36] <mjr> a_l_e, oops, that was for you; tab-complete
[11:36] <dpupp> yatta! 3ddesk is working ^_^ now to go an asign it the windows logo key. ^_^ thank you!
[11:36] <slid3r> my other AV software didnt find
[11:38] <frying_fish> slid3r: are you sure its actually infected, since VLC have had things flag as viruses before that aren't/
[11:38] <magus_x> hi, can anyone help me?
[11:39] <frying_fish> magus_x: not if you don't specify the question
[11:39] <mALmEN> hello, i have a pen wireless
[11:39] <magus_x> what package should i install for mp3 support?
[11:39] <slid3r> well its almost all W32/Magistr.a@MM and W32/Netsky.c@MM
[11:39] <mALmEN> how can i got it to work ?
[11:39] <MatthewV> magus_x, see !restricted
[11:39] <magus_x> !restricted
[11:39] <mof> google automaticx
[11:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:39] <frying_fish> magus_x: follow that, or try something like xmms
[11:39] <magus_x> thanks
[11:39] <frying_fish> I would suggest audacious which is a port of xmms with gtk2, but if you don't know how to play with compiling things from source yet then don't bother.
[11:40] <magus_x> im new to linux, created courage to install it
[11:40] <IAskew> magus_x, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=177646
[11:40] <a_l_e> mjr: ok! found, thanks! very handy when i plug an hd with 5 or 6 partition on it!
[11:40] <magus_x> ubuntu is easy, i installed video drivers with less than 3 clicks lol
[11:40] <mof> magus_x: what is your native language?
[11:40] <magus_x> i will check the url, thanks
[11:41] <magus_x> Portuguese
[11:41] <mALmEN> !! penwireless
[11:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about ! penwireless - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:41] <magus_x> sorry, my bad english
[11:41] <magus_x> =/
[11:41] <mALmEN> !! wireless
[11:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about ! wireless - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:41] <mof> cool!
[11:41] <mALmEN> !! pen
[11:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about ! pen - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:41] <labreche> Hi, anyone knows how to replace an epxression within all file in a directory
[11:41] <Madpilot> mALmEN, use one !, not two
[11:41] <MatthewV> mALmEN, see !bot
[11:41] <mof> !wireless
[11:41] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:41] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell magus_x about pt
[11:42] <MatthewV> mALmEN, you use one !, and follow it by the keyword without the space... as in !usage
[11:42] <mALmEN> hmmm
[11:42] <mALmEN> tjs
[11:42] <POVaddct> mALmEN: first you have to know which chipset your usb wireless pen uses
[11:42] <mALmEN> tks
[11:42] <IAskew> !bot
[11:42] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[11:42] <mALmEN> how can i see it ?
[11:42] <ubuntu> hey, i'm on a live cd right now and it can't format my drive
[11:42] <POVaddct> mALmEN: which manufacturer/model/revision is it?
[11:43] <mof> ubuntu:can you burn cds on the live cd?
[11:43] <magus_x> ubuntu, : well, i installed ubuntu 10 hours ago
[11:43] <magus_x> lol
[11:43] <nalpha> Starting the admin-server
[11:43] <nalpha> Lets start the admin-sever
[11:43] <nalpha>  sudo /opt/fedora-ds/start-admin
[11:43] <nalpha> If it starts, Good. Cheers from Chinthaka.
[11:43] <rixxon> is there any program in the repos that works like the windows net program?
[11:43] <nalpha> the question is there is no start-admin but startconsole
[11:43] <nalpha> any comment??
[11:44] <mALmEN> POVaddct its transcend
[11:44] <mALmEN> i can see the infos on terminal ?
[11:44] <ubuntu> anyway, why can't it format the drive correctly?  it won't do it when i set it manually and automatically
[11:44] <mof> rixxon: do you mean windows .NET as in dot-net?
[11:44] <mwe> rixxon: there is not one program like that. there are several more advanced tools though
[11:44] <POVaddct> mALmEN: "transcend" alone says nothing
[11:45] <magus_x> Ubuntu: what u mean when u say  "it wont do it?"
[11:45] <magus_x> where do you click?
[11:45] <IAskew> mono = .net, doesn't it?
[11:45] <POVaddct> mALmEN: if you stick it in try "lsusb" in a terminal and google for the vendor/product id
[11:45] <rixxon> mwe, no, the net command, it communicate over netbios/msrpc/msds not sure
[11:45] <dpupp> where do i find gconf editor?
[11:46] <dpupp> in dapper ^
[11:46] <mwe> rixxon: yes. like I said there is not a program that works the same way but there are several more advanced tools
[11:46] <mALmEN> Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0967:0204 Acer (??) WarpLink 802.11b Adapter
[11:46] <MatthewV> dpupp, alt-f2, and then gconf-editor and then hit enter
[11:46] <IAskew> upp, type gconf-editor in a terminal?dpp
[11:46] <mof> net bios is Microsoft proprietary isn't is
[11:46] <ubuntu> "failed to creat a file system"
[11:46] <rixxon> mwe, it doesn't matter if it is more capable :p
[11:46] <dpupp> thanks MAthewv!
[11:46] <mwe> rixxon: what do you need to do in particular?
[11:47] <harm__> Im using xubuntu, how do i get a graphical overview of my network?
[11:47] <twa1296> dpupp you can also add it to the menu with the applications menu editor (applications -> system tools)
[11:47] <magus_x> ubuntu: you need set the partition who will use linux as reiserfs ( the best ), and set the mount point as "/"
[11:47] <MatthewV> dpupp, no problems :)
[11:47] <rixxon> mwe, is there nothing with full support for what them typical windows port does?
[11:47] <rixxon> mwe, 135,139,445
[11:49] <Tsukino> weird
[11:49] <frogzoo> mof: netbios was originally dev'd by ibm, but microsoft extended it in proprietary ways
[11:49] <Tsukino> this download freezes at the exact same byte 3 times in a row
[11:49] <mof> lol embrace,extent... etc eh?
[11:49] <Tsukino> meh, I'll do it tomorrow
[11:50] <frogzoo> mof: same old indeed
[11:50] <POVaddct> mALmEN: so google for 0967:0204
[11:50] <mwe> rixxon: what do you want to do? you can mount shares and so. do you want to control windows remotely or what?
[11:50] <rixxon> mwe, remote administration yes
[11:50] <frying_fish> via the remote desktop protocol?
[11:50] <mwe> rixxon: you'd probably wanna use vnc
[11:50] <slid3r> wow theres an images.zip archive on here that is HUGE
[11:50] <frying_fish> if so, then go to apps->internet-> terminal server client
[11:50] <frying_fish> as that does rdp
[11:51] <frying_fish> so you can just control a windows box from that
[11:51] <rixxon> but i want net.exe :/
[11:51] <frying_fish> net.exe?
[11:51] <mwe> rixxon: linux doesn't know that
[11:51] <rixxon> a windows command
[11:51] <frying_fish> if you really need / want that, then use windows.
[11:51] <rixxon> mwe, hence the question =)
[11:51] <mwe> rixxon: you'll have to look for alternatives
[11:51] <AAA> rdesktop is a great tool
[11:51] <frying_fish> what does it actually do? (net.exe)
[11:51] <rixxon> mwe, which was my question. is there such an alternative
[11:51] <mof> could you use wine to run it?
[11:51] <mof> net.exe that is
[11:52] <slid3r> qemu
[11:52] <mwe> rixxon: not one that works the same way
[11:52] <frying_fish> what does net.exe actually do...
[11:52] <rixxon> frying_fish, account administration mostly
[11:52] <mwe> rixxon: rdesktop, vnc
[11:52] <rixxon> those aren't scriptable
[11:52] <frying_fish> right, so its command line access to things/
[11:52] <nalpha> anyone know hot to install fedora directory server???
[11:52] <rixxon> and i don't want to run some telnettish services
[11:52] <nalpha> anyone know how to install fedora directory server???
[11:52] <frying_fish> so you want to admin windows boxes from a linux box, surely a windows box would be easier for that.
[11:52] <mwe> rixxon: rdesktop is great
[11:52] <AAA> use rdesktop and then run your net.exe from there
[11:53] <frogzoo> frying_fish: not so...
[11:53] <rixxon> mwe, i doubt it is scriptable?
[11:53] <rixxon> i mean i want a command line tool, and i don't want to install services
[11:53] <park_canada> hi,im having trouble conecting wireless network. i have wireless modem installed. what should i do ?
[11:53] <frogzoo> many people _have_ to admin doze boxes, but prefer to have linux as their desktop
[11:54] <tecknogyk> quit
[11:54] <rixxon> i'm having the same problem park_canada =(
[11:54] <frying_fish> !wireless
[11:54] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:54] <frogzoo> !wifi
[11:55] <AAA> rixxon  sounds like the tool you need is pstools from wininternals but that is for doze
[11:55] <rixxon> haven't been able to connect any wlan
[11:55] <rixxon> AAA, exactly
[11:55] <park_canada> rixxon: i heard o should d/l something but i dont know whtat.
[11:55] <rixxon> can you wine pstools maybe
[11:55] <frying_fish> ummn, perhaps install a basic windows under vmware
[11:55] <rixxon> !wlan
[11:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about wlan - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:55] <park_canada> i'm a newbie so i don't understand .... wlan ?
[11:55] <frying_fish> and allow it access to the network via a bridge or similar, then use that to do what you want?
[11:55] <frying_fish> wlan~=wireless lan
[11:56] <park_canada> is wireless network always a lan ?
[11:56] <xopher> park_canada, tried network-manager?
[11:56] <rixxon> frying_fish, i would've virtualized windows long time ago if i had the space ;)
[11:56] <park_canada> xopher: yes
[11:56] <AAA> rixxon  you know I think smbclient will do some of that
[11:56] <frying_fish> actually yeah, have you tried network-manager, it seems to handle most wireless things well.
[11:56] <park_canada> it seems to recognize the wireless modem but it is not connecterd to the network
[11:56] <YogSothoth> I want to use a command through rsh that contains a pipe. How can I do so it is not interpreted as local? Like: rsh john@remotehost gunzip -c /tmp/productiondb.sql.gz | mysql -uroot -pmypass productiondb
[11:56] <frying_fish> rixxon: oh, not got space for anothe rhdd?
[11:57] <park_canada> also i have some networks like main and default. none is working
[11:57] <rixxon> AAA, isn't it only for file transfers, sorta like scp?
[11:57] <KenSentMe> rawtaz_: i tried it, but the mail isn't relayed to amavis to be checked, although i altered /etc/postfix/main.cf and master.cf according to the lines in the tutorial
[11:57] <rixxon> frying_fish, laptop
[11:57] <KenSentMe> oops
[11:57] <ubuntu> Unable to read the contents of this filesystem!  Because of this some operations may be unavaiable.  Did you install the correct plugin for this filesystem?
[11:57] <frying_fish> rixxon: ahh
[11:57] <ubuntu> how do i install a plugin?
[11:57] <park_canada> maybe u can help me configure with the network manager.  might have done something wrong...
[11:57] <KenSentMe> Hi. I'm using this tutorial to run a postfix mailserver on Ubuntu http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/#amavis . Everything works fine, except the connection with Amavis. According to the tutorial when i add some lines to main.cf and master.cf all mail should first be sent te Amavis (and relay=amavis should appear in mail.log). But this doesn't happen. How can i check what i'm doing wrong? I don't get any errors and even 'postfix ch
[11:57] <rixxon> ubuntu, are you on the livecd?
[11:57] <ubuntu> yeah
[11:57] <frying_fish> park_canada: it should be point and click with network manager
[11:57] <rixxon> or are you mounting some windows disk or something
[11:58] <ubuntu> i have the whole disk
[11:58] <frogzoo> YogSothoth: zcat not gunzip
[11:58] <T8y8> <Ubuntu 6.06, i386> Hey,  Network Manager stopped saving the WPA key, I don't mind entering the pasword at login, but now it doesn't do that... Any ideas?
[11:58] <park_canada> frying_fish: its a laptop btw. i pointed and clciked... which network shoild i choose? i tried them all, actually, im not connected
[11:58] <YogSothoth> frogzoo, why? and does that answer my question?
[11:58] <ubuntu> it's actually 100% unformatted, when i try to format it, it stops and says it can't
[11:59] <cimnine> hello2all.. i've got a litle (big?) problem with my ubuntu..  since my pc crashed yesterday evening while i was updating my ubuntu, lilo can't find my ubuntu anymore, so i've got the lilo promt instaid my ubuntu begins to boot... thx for help
[11:59] <frying_fish> park_canada:  do you actually have access to them? is the signal strong enough? are they encrypted? can you connect from any other box using wireless?
[11:59] <frogzoo> YogSothoth: try it out
[11:59] <park_canada> frying_fish: on windows o can connect from the laptop on the wireless
[11:59] <YogSothoth> frogzoo, I just read the wikipedia entry. Seems like a shortcut for gunzip -c :) thanks gor the tip
[11:59] <park_canada> im not sure about the signal - how to check t?
[11:59] <park_canada> t=it
[12:00] <frying_fish> ok, so what wireless chipset?
[12:00] <ubuntu> but...whatever i do, the ubuntu installer stops when it gets to building the filesystem
[12:00] <frying_fish> park_canada: in network manager it has a little signal rating
[12:00] <park_canada> frying_fish: how can i check thorugh ubuntu ?
[12:00] <park_canada> frying_fish: i'm checking
[12:00] <frying_fish> btw, network-manager is not the default thing it comes with, you have to install it from apt
[12:00] <frying_fish> wireless chipset : do lspci
[12:01] <slid3r> anybody want to hear my first multi track recording ever?  heh I uses ardour and hydrogen ... and aI went and got a USB interface for my guitar
[12:01] <mof> ubuntu: if you're really stuck and don't under stand the documentation you could try the gparted live cd
[12:01] <slid3r> it was fun but it make me realize I need practice ... heh
[12:02] <mof> sid3r: url?
[12:02] <park_canada> frying_fish: install what from apt? im using "Networking" thorugh the system menu
[12:02] <ubuntu> what's that?  i get the docs and i've formatted a great many times, but i can't get this to work, even when i let it select the options for me
[12:02] <frying_fish> yeah, thats not what we suggested using
[12:02] <frying_fish> open synaptic
[12:02] <slid3r> http://www.slid3r.com/music/myFirstMultitrack.mp3
[12:02] <frying_fish> and search for network-manager
[12:02] <park_canada> well i must connect the laptop to the closet wired modem. that's the floor above ...
[12:02] <park_canada> ok
[12:03] <park_canada> frying_fish: i'll be away since i should take my laptop there. so im going to install it now
[12:03] <park_canada> i'll be back :)
[12:03] <NeoCicak> hello.... whats the next release of ubuntu?
[12:03] <mof> it's a live cd like the one you have especially for partitioning, it has support for resizing and moving ntfs  partitions
[12:03] <converted_> edgy eft
[12:03] <NeoCicak> ic....
[12:04] <NeoCicak> when is that expected to happen? next year?
[12:04] <converted_> a few months from now i think
[12:04] <rixxon> uhm did you have a solution on the wlan problem
[12:04] <frying_fish> in october
[12:04] <converted_> i forgot the specific date
[12:04] <converted_> there
[12:04] <frogzoo> !edgy
[12:04] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[12:04] <NeoCicak> ok.... :)
[12:04] <edgy> Hi, my DirectoryIndex index.html index.php but my mydomain.com/ always open the index.php, any idea how to troubleshoot this?
[12:04] <frying_fish> rixxon: well he didn't have network-manager which is clearly the eaisest way to deal with wireless
[12:04] <T8y8> Hey,  Network Manager stopped saving the WPA key, I don't mind entering the pasword at login, but now it doesn't do that... Any ideas?
[12:04] <frying_fish> rixxon: what wireless chipset are you having problems with
[12:04] <frogzoo> !schedule
[12:04] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[12:04] <cimnine> somone in ther who can help me in a pivate chat session? my problem: since my pc crashed yesterday evening while i was updating my ubuntu, lilo can't find my ubuntu anymore, so i've got the lilo promt instaid my ubuntu begins to boot... thx for help greez chris
[12:04] <frying_fish> T8y8: delete the gnome-keyring
[12:04] <frying_fish> the part in your home dir
[12:05] <mof> url: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php - it's 30mb but you might want to check if you have any tools to burn cds first
[12:05] <frying_fish> then it will allow you to save to the keyring again
[12:05] <rixxon> frying_fish, ah, i didn't have it either *installing*
[12:05] <rixxon> frying_fish, some intel builtin stuff
[12:05] <rixxon> but stuff like kismet works fine
[12:05] <frying_fish> ok, rixxon lspci
[12:05] <T8y8> How do I go about doing so?
[12:05] <frying_fish> and if its 2200 or 2100 it should work fine.
[12:06] <frying_fish> T8y8: open a terminal in your home directory
[12:06] <T8y8> Alright. ls doesn't reveal anything keyringy
[12:06] <frying_fish> yeah it won't
[12:06] <rixxon> frying_fish, 0000:06:04.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG (rev 05)
[12:06] <frying_fish> because its under .gnome2
[12:06] <frying_fish> which is a hidden file
[12:07] <frying_fish> so T8y8 rm -r ~/.gnome2/keyrings
[12:07] <frying_fish> rixxon: that chipset works absolutely fine, its the same I have
[12:07] <frying_fish> so, once you install network-manager and network-manager-gnome (assuming your using gnome) then run nm-applet
[12:07] <rixxon> frying_fish, well kismet finds all the SSIDs but i can't connect any of them while it works fine in win
[12:08] <T8y8> Thanks, I'll try it
[12:08] <nalpha> anyone can help me about fedora active server??
[12:08] <AAA> rixxon  ifconfig eth1 up ; iwconfig eth1 essid foo enc foo
[12:08] <slid3r> welp, night all I think ima crash
[12:09] <rixxon> frying_fish, plus when i've tried wireless, i can't go back to wire. i set eth0 as default gateway and after a while it goes back to the non working eth1
[12:09] <frying_fish> rixxon: this is where using network-manager helps
[12:09] <AAA> rixxon  most ppl connect to ap's before they play with kismet ;)
[12:09] <rixxon> AAA, but why isn't the gui stuff doing it right?
[12:09] <frying_fish> !network manager
[12:09] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager
[12:09] <AAA> rixxon  no habla gui
[12:09] <frying_fish> rixxon: read and follow that guide.
[12:09] <rixxon> will do
[12:11] <ubuntu> what's the best way to manually setup partitions for ubuntu?
[12:11] <AAA> I remember spending hours just building and making kismet work
[12:11] <AAA> ubuntu  cfdisk
[12:12] <rixxon> AAA, why? it's in the repos
[12:12] <ubuntu> i'm gonna use gparted...but should i do root, swap, usr, var, etc, home, and then tmp like bsd?
[12:13] <AAA> ubuntu  oh, you want to resize a partition?
[12:13] <frying_fish> ubuntu: you could do, I personally just do / /home and swap
[12:13] <AAA> rixxon  kismet is now, it wasn't then
[12:13] <T8y8> Back. Didn't seem to work
[12:14] <rixxon> AAA, aah.
[12:14] <ubuntu> why does linux never want you to put swap first?
[12:14] <mwe> ubuntu: I'm a fan of just one partition and swap unless you have a good reason for something else
[12:14] <mwe> ubuntu: For the average desktop user loads of partitions is stupid IMHO
[12:14] <Madpilot> ubuntu, I'd go with /, /home, /swap
[12:15] <AAA> I agree with mwe, the only reason for that is if you have small HDD's or you mount your /home or /var across the network
[12:15] <ubuntu> does ubuntu require for the root partition to be the first one?
[12:15] <mof> there is a good reason to separate your home too, it helps guard against data loss
[12:15] <frying_fish> mwe: because having /home separate means you can re-install if you break something seriouslt without losing personal data
[12:15] <Madpilot> no, having a seperate /home is good practice, it makes having to re-install far less painful :)
[12:15] <frying_fish> ubuntu: nope, I think my / is like the 7th partition on this drive
[12:15] <frying_fish> Madpilot: indeed
[12:15] <mwe> frying_fish: you don't need to have /home on a seperate partition to keep it if you reinstall
[12:16] <frying_fish> sure you do, if you want to change which linux your are running
[12:16] <T8y8> Would it be helpful to reinstall gnome-keyring?
[12:16] <mwe> frying_fish: just boot a live cd and delete everthing but /home and reinstall
[12:16] <frying_fish> and you do what any normal person does and format / when installing
[12:16] <AAA> frying_fish  linux is a kernel, ubuntu is a distro
[12:16] <frying_fish> T8y8: shouldn't be necessary.
[12:16] <mwe> frying_fish: why is that normal?
[12:16] <mwe> frying_fish: I have done it like I say a few times over the years
[12:17] <T8y8> Wouldn't think so, but the randomness with which it stopped working confounds me
[12:17] <frying_fish> AAA: yes I know, ok then, I shall say whichever "gnu/linux" you want to isntall
[12:17] <mwe> frying_fish: there is only one gnu/linux
[12:17] <dou213> i want to watch a video, but it says i need some codecs... how can i install codecs?
[12:17] <_osiris_> Morning all.
[12:17] <frying_fish> ffs, you know what I am meaning, stop being ridiculously pedantic
[12:17] <mwe> frying_fish: the one at kernel.org
[12:18] <Madpilot> dou213, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[12:18] <frying_fish> you are just being a pedant
[12:18] <mwe> whatever
[12:18] <T8y8> dou213: easyubuntu or automatix will install 'em for you
[12:18] <dou213> T8y8: i have automatix installed... w8, i'll check it out
[12:18] <_osiris_> Ive just installed ubuntu dapper drake, and my drives show up perfectly but they cannot be read at all when trying to access them, is this a known bug or just somthing wrong with my configuration?
[12:19] <mof> having a separate /boot is good to if you dumb like me and don't know how to configure grub well, just dd it back
[12:19] <frying_fish> _osiris_: do you mean windows drives?
[12:19] <_osiris_> frying_fish, Yes mate, NTFS Partitions
[12:19] <_osiris_> The install auto picked them up
[12:20] <frying_fish> _osiris_: then its just a permissions thing
[12:20] <frying_fish> only root has permission to view them
[12:20] <frying_fish> you can change that though
[12:20] <_osiris_> yeah
[12:20] <mof> osiris try- chmod a+rwx or something
[12:20] <frying_fish> but you won't be able to write to them anyway.
[12:20] <magus_x> frying_fish,
[12:20] <magus_x> how?
[12:20] <dou213> T8y8: i have automatix bleeder
[12:20] <magus_x> how i can change the permissions
[12:20] <dou213> started it, and i don't see codecs there
[12:20] <magus_x> for hdds ?
[12:20] <_osiris_> frying_fish, yeah i know only fat32 can be written to.
[12:20] <dou213> only for ati
[12:20] <dou213> nvidia
[12:20] <magus_x> i need know it :~
[12:20] <dou213> and such
[12:20] <nalpha> anyone can help me how to install java2 runtime???
[12:20] <zcat[1] > !ntfs
[12:20] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[12:21] <frying_fish> magus_x: _osiris_ chown is your friend
[12:21] <magus_x> lol
[12:21] <T8y8> I haven't used Automatix in a while, but when I did they were there, odd
[12:21] <zcat[1] > frying_fish: chown will not help...
[12:21] <frogzoo> !jre
[12:21] <ubotu> I know nothing about jre - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:21] <magus_x> lol
[12:21] <frogzoo> !java
[12:21] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[12:21] <frying_fish> zcat[1] : it does, once you change the fstab
[12:21] <_osiris_> frying_fish, Thanks i thought it would be more sinister than that, i will try it later. yeah chown is my friend but last time i used it i gave mysql ownership of everything, the bottle of tequila didnt help matters. heh.
[12:21] <qos> is there a possibility to check if there is a samba user created with smbpasswd?
[12:21] <frying_fish> and change it to be owned by another user.
[12:21] <Flannel> frying_fish, magus_x, _osiris_, if you're mounting disks, change your umask, dont chown.
[12:21] <dou213> T8y8: ok thx
[12:22] <magus_x> ahn?
[12:22] <magus_x> well, i can acess them as root
[12:22] <zcat[1] > ntfs won't have the same owners as the linux side so it all gets mounted as one user; that's defined entirely by fstab, not by chowning anything.
[12:22] <frying_fish> yeah, my ntfs stuff has umask=000,ro,
[12:22] <frying_fish> meh
[12:22] <magus_x> but how i can do it as user?
[12:22] <frogzoo> qos: a very good question - which I'd also like answered
[12:22] <magus_x> because i need at least copy and paste from them
[12:22] <magus_x> as user
[12:22] <magus_x> and i can do it as root
[12:22] <magus_x> :(
[12:22] <magus_x> *only can do it
[12:24] <magus_x> :(
[12:25] <MasonicDN> Hi
[12:25] <MasonicDN> Anyone up for helping a newbie?
[12:25] <_osiris_> what's the problem MasonicDN
[12:26] <IAskew> i have a Fat32 D; drive in Windows that shows up as mounted in /media/hdc2, problem is i can only read it and cant write to it, how do i give myself write perms?
[12:27] <nalpha> yah i have same quesetion with laskew
[12:27] <nalpha> anyone know about it??
[12:27] <zcat[1] > IAskew: umask=000 in the option field of fstab..
[12:27] <IAskew> thx zcat[1] 
[12:27] <magus_x> thanks
[12:27] <magus_x> it will help me too
[12:27] <MasonicDN> _osiris
[12:27] <magus_x> but where is the fstab
[12:27] <magus_x> ?
[12:27] <MasonicDN> i wnana start using ubuntu
[12:28] <magus_x> ( im newb ^^ )
[12:28] <MasonicDN> but i dont know what to downlaod lol
[12:28] <longwave> magus_x: /etc/fstab
[12:28] <magus_x> oh
[12:28] <magus_x> tnx
[12:29] <MasonicDN> What Version of ubuntu should i get ? XUBUNTU, EDUBUNTU? KUBUNTU? :(
[12:29] <longwave> MasonicDN: download the 6.06 Dapper Drake Desktop CD for your architecture
[12:29] <magus_x> i place umask=000 at the end of file?
[12:29] <MasonicDN> k
[12:29] <longwave> if you're new, you might as well try ubuntu first
[12:29] <longwave> you can switch to kubuntu/xubuntu without reinstalling later on
[12:29] <Madpilot> MasonicDN, Ubuntu is a good place to start; Xubuntu & Kubuntu are just Ubuntu with a different desktop
[12:29] <MasonicDN> oo
[12:30] <MasonicDN> so i would download Ubuntu v6.06 DVD ISO for AMD64
[12:30] <IAskew> zcat[1] , thx, it worked
[12:30] <zcat[1] > magus_x: on the line that has your windows drive listed, in the space where it probably says 'defaults'
[12:30] <magus_x> i place umask=000 at the end of file????
[12:30] <longwave> MasonicDN: yes, either the dvd or cd will work, the dvd has more packages but you can always download them from the internet anyway
[12:31] <Madpilot> MasonicDN, if you've got an AMD64 computer, yes.
[12:31] <zcat[1] > /dev/hdb1       /hdb1           ntfs   umask=000       0       0
[12:31] <zcat[1] > err sorry..
[12:31] <MasonicDN> i have  a AMD ATHALON 64 3400
[12:31] <Madpilot> MasonicDN, the CD ISO is a lot smaller, though
[12:31] <zcat[1] > /dev/hdb1       /hdb1           fat32   umask=000       0       0
[12:31] <zcat[1] > something like that ?
[12:32] <MasonicDN> would that mean its 64 bit? i think it does
[12:32] <MasonicDN> it even has that sticker
[12:32] <zcat[1] > magus_x: ask IAskew, I think he's got it figured out :)
[12:32] <Madpilot> MasonicDN, yes, that would be a 64bit machine
[12:33] <IAskew> magus_x, my /etc/fstab already had umask007, i just changed the 7 there to 0
[12:33] <MasonicDN> ok thanks :) my ISP only host the DVD so im just gonna go with taht one
[12:33] <Zyfo> Where should I put my programs I install from .tar.zg?
[12:33] <mof> i wouldn't recommend using the 64 bit version, there are still some teething problems
[12:33] <longwave> Zyfo: you can use checkinstall or dh_make to make them into a proper package if you like
[12:33] <MasonicDN> 32?
[12:33] <longwave> Zyfo: otherwise i'd recommend putting them in /usr/local
[12:33] <Zyfo> longwave, ok, thanks
[12:34] <zcat[1] > 32 == i386 == PC
[12:34] <MasonicDN> thats x86 right
[12:34] <MasonicDN> o
[12:34] <MasonicDN> lol
[12:34] <rixxon> frying_fish, networkmanager didn't help me at all ...
[12:34] <zcat[1] > Yeah
[12:34] <Madpilot> MasonicDN, yes, get the x86 ISO
[12:34] <Zyfo> longwave, right in /local or in /local/bin or so?
[12:34] <frogzoo> qos: sudo pdbedit -L
[12:34] <frying_fish> rixxon: even after running nm-applet?
[12:34] <frying_fish> as it makes things much easier to use
[12:35] <frying_fish> and a 2200 IPW should work fine, thats what I have in my laptop
[12:35] <zcat[1] > btw; just curious to know if there's any significant/measurable performance advantage in running 64 bit vs. 32 ?
[12:35] <rixxon> frying_fish, nm-applet is running, gives me a dropdown with one item: Wired network
[12:35] <mof> x86 doesn't necessarily mean built for i386 tho
[12:35] <frying_fish> rixxon: did you follow the rest of the guide
[12:35] <longwave> Zyfo: the executable should go in /usr/local/bin, libraries in /usr/local/lib, etc
[12:35] <frying_fish> where it told you to make sure only loopback was in /etc/network/interfaces
[12:35] <frying_fish> and then reboot?
[12:35] <mwe> mof: no?
[12:35] <Zyfo> kk
[12:35] <rixxon> frying_fish, uhm i thought the rest was mostly "issues" and stuff
[12:36] <rixxon> and i don't get anything like this, http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/images/wireless-at-tealuxe.png
[12:36] <frying_fish> clearly, reading the rest of it would have helped
[12:36] <MasonicDN> downloading at 1mbs
[12:36] <MasonicDN> thanks guys
[12:36] <longwave> Zyfo: if it uses ./configure you can say "./configure --prefix=/usr/local" then "make install" should put them in the right place
[12:36] <longwave> Zyfo: i'd still recommend using checkinstall if possible though, makes things easier to remove later
[12:36] <Zyfo> longwave, how and where would I use it?
[12:36] <frying_fish> rixxon: seriously, edit /etc/network/interfaces like it says, then reboot and make sure when you right click on nm-applet, that you select "enable wireless"
[12:37] <mof> x86 64, athlons are still party of the family arnt they?
[12:37] <frying_fish> then it will give you something similar to to that screenshot
[12:37] <longwave> Zyfo: install the "checkinstall" package, then instead of "sudo make install" you run "sudo checkinstall" and it creates a .deb package for you
[12:37] <qos> is there a possibility to check if there is a samba user created with smbpasswd?
[12:37] <Zyfo> ah, cool
[12:37] <rixxon> frying_fish, sorry i was ignorant ...
[12:38] <mwe> mof: I think amd 64 is not considered x86 in 64bit mode. I might be mistaken though
[12:38] <nalpha> guys how to run fstab again??
[12:38] <frying_fish> I thought it was, since it was x86_64 for most things relating to them....
[12:38] <IAskew> sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[12:38] <frying_fish> nalpha: how do you mean "run it again"
[12:38] <frogzoo> qos: wake up: sudo pdbedit -L
[12:38] <frying_fish> if you want to remount things then do sudo mount -a
[12:38] <nalpha> i;m forget it
[12:38] <IAskew> sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstabbackup first
[12:38] <nalpha> ^^
[12:39] <chris1112> u rule
[12:39] <bilss_> hi
[12:39] <mwe> mof: At least I think x86 doesn't include amd 64 bit mode when we talk about build targets
[12:39] <chris1112> your not evil
[12:39] <mof> Really i didn't know that,  but there's a lot i don't know
[12:39] <qos> frogzoo, thx...
[12:40] <CheetahMk2> Huzzah! After much muich much effort, compiling my first driver, and first time screwing with drivers and kernel code to do a make with dependencies, I now have WPA wifi access from command line : p
[12:40] <CheetahMk2> Thanks to the people who helped.
[12:40] <mof> !info controlling ubotu
[12:40] <ubotu> Package controlling does not exist in dapper
[12:41] <mof> !info ubotu commands
[12:41] <ubotu> Package ubotu does not exist in dapper
[12:41] <CheetahMk2> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop <- any reason this command wouldn't work? Do I need to set up apt-get sources or something?
[12:41] <CheetahMk2> (I'm configuring a Server install from the base up)
[12:41] <bilss_> i have installed mozila thunderbird for emails and stuff but i can lauch the gui no probs but want to launch it from remote but do not know command line?
[12:42] <davin> how do I go about instaling OpenGL in Kubuntu?
[12:43] <visik7> davin: which card ?
[12:43] <davin> (cant find it in the wiki)
[12:43] <davin> GeForce 6200SE
[12:43] <mwe> davin: do you mean how do you get 3d acceleration? because I believe the opengl libs are already installed by default
[12:43] <davin> I got the nvidia drivers
[12:43] <visik7> !videocard
[12:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about videocard - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:43] <visik7> !video cards
[12:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about video cards - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:43] <noiesmo> !nvidia
[12:43] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:43] <visik7> !nvidia
[12:44] <visik7> ecco
[12:44] <Zyfo> longwave, if it doesn't use configure what should I do? just put it there manually or can I write where it should checkinstall?
[12:44] <bilss_> how can i check how much disk spave i have free on hda1 which is i am in at the moment?
[12:44] <mof> apt-get build essential
[12:44] <davin> well im trying to install Tuxedo T. Penguin: A Quest for Herring, and i need PLIB (Steve's Portable Game Library) and that needs OpenGL to be installed
[12:44] <chemaja> bilss_, df
[12:45] <bilss_> chemaja: thanks df what?
[12:45] <chemaja> bilss_, just df
[12:45] <IAskew> or df -h
[12:46] <chemaja> or `man df'
[12:46] <frying_fish> bilss_: df -h
[12:46] <davin> when I try to install PLIB: "onfigure: error: could not find working GL library
[12:46] <davin> "
[12:46] <mof> davin: do you want to try to build the drivers from nvidia or are you happy with the nvidia-glx drivers?
[12:46] <davin> mof: well the drivers are fine but It cant seem to find a GL lib so I wanna get that
[12:46] <CheetahMk2> Ha.... ha... ha..... doing "apt-get install ubuntu desktop" wants 1.5gb..... which I was trying to avoid.
[12:46] <visik7> the nvidia-glx drivers are the latest from nvidia there isn't any reason to compile by yourself drivers
[12:46] <davin> mof: I use nvidia-glx
[12:47] <frying_fish> davin: you prob need the "dev" versions then, look in synaptic
[12:47] <davin> frying_fish: okay thanks
[12:47] <frying_fish> for opengl-dev or something similar
[12:47] <frying_fish> basically, it can't configure, because it can't find the header files
[12:48] <bilss_> frying-fish: ok thanks what i have is this 36859272  17101540  17885360  49% since i only have fluxbox and a few other bits of software  how can i check whats useing almost half my disk space?
[12:48] <bilss_> chemaja: thanks
[12:48] <davin> frying_fish: okay, its installing nvidia-glx-dev and some mesa- stuff
[12:48] <frying_fish> its probably your /home
[12:48] <fedt> ummm...what do i do when it says my hdd is write-protected?
[12:48] <chemaja> bilss_, it's probably your apt cache
[12:48] <gabriele> hello! does anybody know why my screen it appears a "no support" error every time gnome starts?
[12:48] <chemaja> bilss_, `man du'
[12:48] <davin> frying_fish: lets try this
[12:49] <chemaja> bilss_, `man apt-get' -- there's a "clean" option
[12:49] <patrick_king> !nvidia
[12:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:49] <davin> hmm lets try relogging
[12:49] <bilss_> yes as in apt-get clean or autoclean
[12:50] <chemaja> bilss_, yea those
[12:50] <Subhuman> !apache
[12:50] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[12:51] <davin> Nope, still says 'configure: error: could not find working GL library
[12:51] <davin> '
[12:51] <frying_fish> davin: then you probably don't have the correct package yet
[12:51] <frying_fish> look through synaptic for the correct package
[12:51] <chris1112> apt-get opengl ?
[12:51] <bilss_> so once those commands autoclean and clean thats it cache wiped?
[12:52] <nalpha> i'm already mount "
[12:52] <frying_fish> it might be libglut
[12:52] <davin> yeah it said something about glut
[12:52] <Zyfo> longwave, think I made it, but it told me the source was at "<appliciation>" is this right? I changed it to "/usr/local/<app>" since configure didn't work (at all)
[12:52] <nalpha> i'm already mount "sudo mount dev/sda5 /home/admin/drive" btw why the mount not in the list /etc/fstab????
[12:53] <davin> 'GLUT 3.7 or later : You probably got a copy of GLUT (The OpenGL Utility Toolkit) with Mesa or whatever OpenGL you installed. If you didn't then you can get it from www.opengl.org.'
[12:53] <frying_fish> well libglut-dev is probably what you want, but anyway, check around
[12:53] <bilss_> frying_fish: whats the comand for see what;s in /home i mean the size?
[12:53] <frogzoo> bilss_: du -sh /home
[12:53] <frying_fish> bilss_: as already said "man du" to look at how to use du
[12:53] <davin> Okay I got libglut, now getting libglut-dev
[12:54] <nalpha> i'm already mount "sudo mount dev/sda5 /home/admin/drive" btw why the mount not in the list /etc/fstab????
[12:55] <frying_fish> nalpha: because you didn't add it to there?
[12:55] <frying_fish> you have to manually add entries to fstab
[12:55] <nalpha> how??
[12:55] <bilss_> frogzoo: thanks o btw I tried winehq its ok for some windows progs but not all you have to be carefull
[12:55] <frying_fish> sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[12:55] <frying_fish> and write a correct entry
[12:55] <nalpha> ya and
[12:55] <chris1112> wine is bsd code, hence evil
[12:55] <nalpha> thans
[12:55] <nalpha> i mean what i must write?
[12:56] <frying_fish> that depends on the partition
[12:56] <frying_fish> and where you want to put it
[12:56] <frying_fish> look at the others in there
[12:56] <frying_fish> and do something similar
[12:56] <IAskew> nalpha, sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstabbackkup first
[12:56] <nalpha> ok2 thanx2
[12:57] <Johnathan> Hi fellow-Ubuntu users!
[12:57] <dpupp> im searching through various posts on flash and audio problems, anyone know if there was a final solution?
[12:57] <Johnathan> dpupp: what's the issue?
[12:57] <npster> Where do I download the KDE stars source code ?
[12:58] <dpupp> johnathan, no sound, and when i change none to aoss, it sounds way off... aside from other issues in firefox.
[12:58] <bilss_> frying_fish found it /var is useing 15gigs woo must check it out
[12:58] <frying_fish> youch
[12:58] <frying_fish> logs?
[12:58] <bilss_> woo man its that damm news suck
[12:58] <chell> Hi
[12:58] <Johnathan> dpupp, I'm using Opera. Got a site that I can test out?
[12:59] <chris1112> i just found this, it looks cool: http://www.richard-seaman.com/Aircraft/AirShows/SpaceShipOne2004/
[12:59] <chell> I've succesfully installed totem-xine and can play all of my dvds just fine. Now I've got a VIDEO_TS folder here on my harddrive which totem can't play... Is there anything I can do to change that?
[12:59] <frying_fish> lol, usenet stuff held?
[12:59] <dpupp> johnathan, here, hoover your mouse over her skirt: http://ookami.animetc.com/displayimage.php?album=2&pos=17
[12:59] <Zyfo> !/etc/init.d
[12:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about /etc/init.d - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:59] <mof> Why does davin have to get the dev library's, what does he need them for?
[12:59] <bilss_> flying_fish: loks in /var yea i will take a look
[12:59] <bilss_> logs
[01:00] <frying_fish> mof: to compile stuff that needs the opengl libraries headers by the looks of it
[01:00] <manmadha> how to install phpgmail drive in linux??
[01:00] <mof> i missed the boat on why?
[01:00] <frying_fish> well the dev versions are what tend to contain the .h files
[01:01] <chell> has anyone got any suggestions?
[01:02] <frying_fish> and if you need to compile something that has #include <foo.h> then you will need the foo.h in your system libraries somewhere, so by the looks of his glut issues he needs the glut-dev package
[01:02] <manmadha> how to install phpgmail drive in linux??
[01:02] <bilss_> flying_fish: if i want to chech the size of each dir in /var instead of going to each one at a time what an easy to do it?
[01:02] <manmadha> how to install gmail drive ??
[01:02] <dpupp> hmm...
[01:03] <frying_fish> bilss_: its frying_fish , not flying_fish
[01:03] <mof> Ok i still don't understand so i probably never will... I'm new to Linux but for me the binary and nvidia.com drivers worked with just the kernel headers.
[01:03] <frying_fish> mof: thats not what he's having issues with
[01:03] <frying_fish> he's trying to compile a game
[01:03] <frying_fish> that needs the stuff.
[01:03] <manmadha> any one there?
[01:04] <bilss_> frying_fish: sorry there was a guy called something canned_tuna
[01:04] <chell> !totem
[01:04] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[01:04] <mof> mof's brain.... click!
[01:04] <chell> !totem-xine
[01:04] <manmadha> how to install gmail drive in linux??
[01:05] <Johnathan> dpupp: So that's what you do in your spare time... :D
[01:05] <Johnathan> Kidding
[01:05] <chell> Does anyone know how I can get my totem to play VIDEO_TS folders?
[01:05] <[b] urk> chell, a video
[01:05] <jpjacobs> manmadha, there is a fuse based thing: gmailfs, just apt-get it. there is some manual setting up to do, but i'm sure you'll find that on the web
[01:05] <chell> a video??
[01:05] <rixxon> frying_fish, so i did remove all auto but lo, and rebooted. network manager found no device at all and i had no internet. so i set eth0 as auto and reboot again and ubuntu is not even able to start properly! reboot, recovery mode, nano interfaces and set all devices as auto, reboot and now works fine. network manager still not working though
[01:06] <Johnathan> dpupp: Well I have tried. Opera => No sound. Firefox => No sound. Konqueror => seems ok.
[01:06] <[b] urk> chell, a video_ts-folder on a dvd or on your hd?
[01:06] <Johnathan> I'm using Alsa
[01:06] <chell> on my hard drive
[01:06] <mof> chell: for a simple fix you could apt-get vlc
[01:06] <[b] urk> chell, i dont know, but try vlc, its the best
[01:06] <manmadha> jpjacobs, ok thanks
[01:06] <frying_fish> rixxon: then something more serious is broken
[01:06] <chell> It's weird because I can play all my DVDs
[01:06] <chell> with totem
[01:06] <frying_fish> as it works absolutely fine for me, and when you run nm-applet, does it not find anything? even if you enable wireless?
[01:06] <frying_fish> anyway, I don't know anymore than what that guide says really
[01:07] <frying_fish> I didn't have any troubles with mine at all, using the 2200
[01:08] <rixxon> frying_fish, that's the problem, i can't enable wireless!
[01:08] <rixxon> and it doesnt even "not work properly", it's just wierd and f*cked
[01:08] <chell> you're right, VLC is indeed better than totem
[01:08] <manmadha> jpjacobs, ya i followed u r step;i installed gmailfs then how to use it??
[01:08] <bilss_> frying_fishdu -sh /var/spool:  gives me 15gigs help!
[01:08] <mof> Man the Ubuntu community is great! I love you guys...
[01:08] <chell> why don't they finally get rid of totem in favour of VLC or something else...
[01:08] <mof> ... like mplayer?
[01:09] <chell> yes
[01:09] <chell> or VLC or gxine or...
[01:09] <mof> true... um mr. shuttleworth likes totem?
[01:10] <frying_fish> bilss_: well, if its not stuff you need then delete it...] 
[01:10] <gabriele> hello!
[01:10] <chell> they probably can't include VLC because it included libraries like that css library
[01:10] <chell> hi gabriele
[01:10] <gabriele> does anybody know why my screen it appears a "no support" error every time gnome starts?
[01:11] <Zyfo> !codecs
[01:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:11] <bilss_> frying_fish yes i must  rm -rf ?
[01:11] <frying_fish> chell: also, the default vlc inthe dapper archives is 0.8.4 yeah? if you want 0.8.5 go to the vlc site and navigate to the developers bit and get the "nightlies" version, which is just 0.8.5 and nicer, and 0.8.6 should be relatively soon
[01:11] <frying_fish> bilss_: yes..
[01:11] <frying_fish> gabriele: look in your Xorg logs
[01:11] <frying_fish> and google the errors
[01:12] <frying_fish> maybe have to copy them to somewhere you can read if you can't get X on that system
[01:12] <bilss_> frying_fish: do not often use that command!
[01:12] <chell> that way I'd have to compile it, right?
[01:12] <gabriele> xorg logs?
[01:12] <gabriele> ok thank you
[01:13] <jpjacobs> manmadha, google for it... i never really used it... but the thing is: using gmailfs you can mount your gmail drive just like a normal HD drive
[01:13] <manmadha> jpjacobs, ya now i am seeing ......fstab??
[01:13] <frying_fish> chell: no, there is a package for dapper for 0.8.5
[01:13] <JohnRobert> is xgl stable/good in the latest stable release of ubuntu?
[01:14] <chell> well I think I'm gonna compile it
[01:14] <chell> would be a good exercise
[01:14] <chell> since I've never really compiled anything
[01:14] <rixxon> frying_fish, oh well, guess i'll have to live without wifi... thanks though, help much appreciated!
[01:14] <frying_fish>  that would be all you need
[01:15] <jpjacobs> manmadha, I don't know... i just know the thing exists, and that when using it, you can use gmail as a HD, that's all i know...
[01:16] <manmadha> jpjacobs, ok thank u
[01:16] <patrick_king> how do i test to see if my3d acceleration is workign
[01:16] <twa1296> patrick_king, type glxinfo
[01:17] <patrick_king> cheers
[01:17] <twa1296> patrick_king, it will say 'direct rendering: yes/no'
[01:17] <patrick_king> direct rendering: yes
[01:18] <twa1296> all good then :-)
[01:18] <patrick_king> yahooooooooooo
[01:19] <chell> btw
[01:20] <chell> VLC's interface looks beautiful on ubuntu
[01:20] <mof> note: Soon Australia will come under laws similar to those America, that means it will be illegal to own library's like css.
[01:20] <chell> this is crazy
[01:20] <chell> It should NOT be illegal to play your DVDs
[01:20] <chell> I think it's your right
[01:20] <chris1112> yes it should, dvd's are evil
[01:20] <chris1112> they are encrypted
[01:21] <frying_fish> chell: indeed you should be allowed to play you dvds
[01:21] <chell> DVDs aren't evil. It's a) the film industry and b) the government
[01:21] <davin> Im using Firefox/Konqueror, is there a way to get that embedded Windows Media Player to work? Firefox points me to the Microsoft site to download the plugin, and Konqueror gives me 'xine not running'
[01:21] <chris1112> but only on approved hardware,
[01:21] <chris1112> when you purchase a dvd, your only purchasing a licence to play them on licenced hardware
[01:21] <chell> If it wasn't for the film industry there would be no CSS encryption
[01:22] <npster> I need a url for a server using aMule ?
[01:22] <twotwenty> how do you uncompress .rar ?
[01:22] <IAskew> twotwenty, unrar
[01:22] <chris1112> so, no, you cannot play a dvd on a computer without purchasing some crap software for $50
[01:22] <davin> twotwenty: www.rarlab.com
[01:22] <chris1112> apt-get unrar
[01:22] <chell> Well you CAN
[01:22] <chell> but you are not allowed to
[01:22] <npster> chris1112: ehat os are u using ?
[01:22] <npster> what
[01:23] <chris1112> sorry, i cannot say, it would start a flame war
[01:23] <davin> heheheh
[01:24] <davin> chris1112: you actually spilled it now =p
[01:24] <mof> Thanks to the Fair Trade Agreement, there is a video available of the lecture called - Linux Politics or Why i Just Want to Hack and goes into depth on the issues.
[01:26] <davin> Konqueror uses KMPlayer
[01:27] <davin> keeps me giving Player xine not running
[01:27] <twa1296> davin try mozplugger, it's a firefox plugin
[01:27] <twa1296> !mozplugger
[01:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about mozplugger - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:27] <davin> twal296: thanks
[01:28] <mof> davin: what package do you use to install a base kde setup?
[01:28] <davin> mof: kdm and kubuntu-desktop?
[01:28] <davin> mof: I installed Kubuntu myself
[01:28] <davin> mof: fresh
[01:29] <davin> mof: are you trying to install KDE?
[01:30] <mof> ah ha! thanks i just don't have the time to download 1.5 gig worth of kde.
[01:30] <mof> Yea i just wanted to try it out.
[01:30] <davin> mof: meh, if you have normal ubuntu just do 'sudo apt-get install kdm kubuntu-desktop'
[01:30] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys I formerly had a dual boot box 1 windows drive (primary) and 1 ubuntu drive (secondary).  Recently my windows drive died taking my bootloader and 80 odd gig og music, movies and software fortunately i keep a backup of all my media and software.  I have now made the decision that i will not re-install windows nor probably personally use it ever again, can anyone tell me how i can install grub or lilo or whicheve
[01:30] <davin> I dont know how big it is
[01:30] <davin> I installed gdm and ubuntu-desktop (gnome) in 5 mins~
[01:31] <mof> props to davin
[01:31] <davin> mof: for what?
[01:31] <patrick_king> !mp3
[01:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:32] <mof> being ubuntu cool
[01:32] <davin> Paddy:EIRE: Use ubuntu and run Windows in a VM, thats what I do when I -have to- use apps that are not on Nix
[01:32] <davin> how do I open a BIN file?
[01:33] <davin> or use it
[01:33] <chell> ./binfile
[01:33] <chell> or something like that
[01:33] <Paddy_EIRE> davin yeah i have thought on this
[01:33] <chell> given it's executable
[01:33] <patrick_king> !ntfs
[01:33] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[01:33] <davin> yeah its java
[01:34] <Zyfo> Anyone who could explain to me what /etc/init.d is? I wrote "sudo /etc/init.d/<app> start" and then it got put into autostart or something, why? and how can I manage my autostarts?
[01:34] <davin> hmm doesnt work
[01:34] <frying_fish> Zyfo: use sysv-rc-conf to manage all of it
[01:34] <frying_fish> get it from apt, and then you can set what starts and doesn't for each run level
[01:34] <twa1296> Paddy_EIRE, use a live-cd to install grub http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[01:35] <davin> Paddy_EIRE: how big is your harddisk?
[01:35] <Paddy_EIRE> twa1296 i know but how
[01:35] <Zyfo> ok, thanks
[01:35] <converted_> zyfro: i think you can see the startup programs in system > sessions > startup programs
[01:35] <twa1296> the howto in the url above explains how
[01:35] <franciov> hello
[01:35] <frying_fish> davin: you say a bin file, do you mean a cd image thats a .bin .cue set?
[01:36] <frying_fish> or just a .bin thats a binary executable?
[01:36] <davin> frying_fish: nope, i mean an executable, its a Java runtime enviorment installation
[01:36] <IAskew> ./file.bin
[01:36] <frying_fish> well then, chmod +x /path/to/file and then ./file
[01:36] <void^> !java
[01:36] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[01:36] <frying_fish> but then again you can get the sun java stuff from apt anyway
[01:36] <frying_fish> so why bother>
[01:37] <Raskall> I have to run mythtv-setup as the mythtv user, but I get display problems. I have tried "sudo -u mythtv mythtv-setup"
[01:37] <Paddy_EIRE> twa1296 i have been searching guys there must be a simple way... normally in windows I think its fixmbr or fixboot somethin simple like that in ubuntu i have know idea but extremely complicating methods that ramble on in the guides a little ( all i want is to boot ubuntu from the drive again
[01:37] <frying_fish> Paddy_EIRE: boot from live cd
[01:37] <frying_fish> chroot into the drive that has ubuntu on it
[01:37] <frying_fish> let me find the exact guide
[01:37] <davin> thanks works
[01:37] <frying_fish> its like 3 commands
[01:37] <twa1296> Paddy_EIRE, you only have one drive left now?
[01:38] <frying_fish> Paddy_EIRE: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[01:38] <Paddy_EIRE> twa1296 yep
[01:38] <frying_fish> Paddy_EIRE: follow that guide and it will work
[01:38] <twa1296> Paddy_EIRE, well in that case you'll have to install a bootloader, since your ubuntu was booted from your old drive before it went
[01:38] <davin> how do I enable mozplugger?
[01:38] <twa1296> Paddy_EIRE, and that's done with a grub install via livecd
[01:39] <davin> It still points me to the WMP plugin site
[01:39] <twa1296> davin, i think you just apt-get install mozplugger and restart firefox
[01:39] <Paddy_EIRE> frying_fish im in the live cd, i already tried a guide which brought the old bootloader back with win still on it, it doesnt work
[01:39] <franciov> ...
[01:39] <davin> already did that, lemme try and restart x
[01:39] <frying_fish> Paddy_EIRE: thats because it will be using the menu.lst from before, after re-instaling grub
[01:40] <twa1296> davin check if it's there, type about:plugins in url bar
[01:40] <frying_fish> but, if that config file is no longer correct then it won't boot it will it
[01:40] <Paddy_EIRE> twa1296 i know this already man but i keep getting oh u need to boot livecd then re-install grub.... I know that but HOOOOOW
[01:40] <franciov> asd
[01:41] <IAskew> doesnt mozilla-mplayer play windows media files?
[01:41] <davin> hmm still points me to the M$ site
[01:41] <Paddy_EIRE> im in the live cd right now..so what do i do where is grub what do i type in terminal whats going on
[01:41] <[b] urk> IAskew, depends on you have the codec i think
[01:41] <IAskew> w32codecs [b] urk ?
[01:41] <IAskew> i used automatix
[01:41] <[b] urk> IAskew, yes
[01:41] <frying_fish> Paddy_EIRE: the guide I linked tells you all you need
[01:42] <[b] urk> IAskew, ook
[01:42] <frying_fish> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows  <----Paddy_EIRE
[01:42] <davin> I have mozplugger installed :/
[01:43] <IAskew> davin, have u installed w32codecs and mozilla-mplayer or something of that ilk?
[01:43] <frying_fish> IAskew: if you have w32 codecs it will play wmv
[01:43] <franciov> asdasdasd
[01:43] <davin> IAskew: I think I got some codecs but only 1
[01:43] <twa1296> davin, mozilla-mplayer maybe?
[01:43] <davin> cant find it
[01:43] <davin> neither w32codecs
[01:44] <twa1296> davin sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[01:44] <IAskew> davin, have u heard of automatix?
[01:44] <nilesh892003> any good c compiler for ubuntu
[01:44] <nilesh892003> and how to start it
[01:44] <highvoltage> automatix is something that you should avoid
[01:45] <highvoltage> it ultimately breaks your ubuntu system
[01:45] <davin> IAskew: I did that, same with w32, it said it cannot find the package. No, I havent heard of automatix
[01:45] <IAskew> i keep hearing that but i dont understand why highvoltage
[01:45] <twa1296> davin do you have universe/multiverse enabled?
[01:45] <davin> twal296: Where can I see that?
[01:46] <IAskew> /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:46] <frying_fish> automatix == bad
[01:46] <jme> official apple news! http://img.waffleimages.com/img/5a5282677886c3572311e887ad3e88de5033c5a6/wwdcsurprise.jpg
[01:46] <Paddy_EIRE> frying_fish cheers man an answer thats an answer and not another question great stuff
[01:46] <frogzoo> nilesh892003: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:46] <twa1296> davin http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[01:46] <IAskew> tea frying_fish but why, ive used it on breezy and dapper with no probs
[01:46] <IAskew> tea=yeah
[01:46] <frying_fish> IAskew: but its messy.
[01:47] <frogzoo> IAskew: for automatix support -> #automatix
[01:47] <nbjayme> hello folks!!! our local lug has a presentation but we don't have a projector.  what program would allow us to simultaneously broadcast video from one computer to clients?  say whatever is shown on my monitor will also be shown to the other computers...
[01:47] <frying_fish> nbjayme: vnc?
[01:47] <frying_fish> with shared sessions?
[01:47] <frying_fish> or if it is actually video, then vlc with its streaming support
[01:47] <chris1112> anyone here use pppoe?
[01:47] <nbjayme> no video... just an open impress presentation.
[01:47] <frogzoo> interesting - is there an app that would support multicast for this?
[01:48] <davin> nbjayme: like spreadsheet?
[01:48] <highvoltage> IAskew: it's quite simple, automatix doesn't store what it does, it doesn't use APT, so your package manager doesn't know what automatix is doing behind its back
[01:48] <mof> i use pppoe here!
[01:48] <frying_fish> nbjayme: vnc then, use a shared session, let htem all login to it
[01:48] <IAskew> i c highvoltage
[01:48] <highvoltage> IAskew: so eventually when you install something new or upgrade, files are missing, or there are files that's not supposed to be there
[01:49] <highvoltage> apparently there is a tool called easyubuntu, that does the same
[01:49] <nbjayme> we tackle linux and foss topics and do presentation in Impress... i'll check vnc then.  thanks so much.
[01:49] <twa1296> imho easyubuntu is the better alternative to automatix
[01:49] <IAskew> what about easyubuntu highvoltage ?
[01:49] <frying_fish> easyubuntu is supposed to be the better one.
[01:49] <davin> nbjayme: anytime
[01:49] <highvoltage> but it is better since it uses apt, i don't know where it is, but you could probably google it and find it
[01:49] <twa1296> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[01:50] <davin> i enabed universe+multiverse now
[01:50] <frogzoo> nbjayme: perhaps checkout openmash & mbone...
[01:50] <davin> yay works
[01:50] <IAskew> do u see w32codecs davin?
[01:50] <davin> sec its installing mozilla-mplayer
[01:50] <davin> hm
[01:50] <davin> it says
[01:50] <nbjayme> frogzoo, okay i'll try checking that out too.  thanks for speedy assistance folks!
[01:51] <davin> its not available, but its pointing to something else, no installable candidate
[01:51] <mof> Why would i be sending out samba udp packets? is this something ubuntu does?
[01:51] <mof> I'm behind a router (IDG Linux?) on an encrypted wifi connection, with some osx computers on the LAN side.
[01:52] <linux_manju> mof: If you have specified printer autodiscovery in cups thats natural
[01:52] <frying_fish> mof not unless you have installed samba
[01:52] <twa1296> davin maybe install these first: http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs
[01:52] <frying_fish> or printer stuff.
[01:52] <davin> IAskew: mplayer works but it stops after 5 secs, prolly cos it doesnt have w32codecs
[01:52] <frogzoo> nbjayme: oh, someone has been here before: http://users.tkk.fi/~tssalmin/mbone.html
[01:53] <IAskew> davin google easy ubuntu
[01:53] <patrick_king> !wine
[01:53] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:53] <chell> I think I finally got acidrip to work
[01:53] <chell> :-)
[01:53] <IAskew> davin, http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[01:53] <mof> Sorry I'm getting them from the router. On port 137 I'm still confused
[01:54] <frying_fish> so you're not sending them out, you are receiving them? thats the router you need to configure then
[01:54] <davin> IAskew; same =/
[01:54] <davin> whoa
[01:56] <mof> yes i just have no idea what it could be doing or with what machine
[01:56] <Sp4rKy> hi
[01:58] <frogzoo> mof: for name resolution? you'll need a wins server on both sides of router
[01:58] <davin> TypeError: cannot concatenate 'str' and 'NoneType' objects         when python easyubuntu.in
[01:58] <Paddy_EIRE> frying_fish Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time. (its still doing this)
[01:58] <frying_fish> it can take a while
[01:59] <dfgas> why is it that when i make a samba share it is asking for login and password?  going from windows to linux/samba
[01:59] <Paddy_EIRE> frying_fish how long roughly athlonxp 1.9 512 ram 60 gig hd
[01:59] <Paddy_EIRE> frying_fish im just not sure if its actually doing anything
[02:00] <davin> do I need some kind of python compiler?
[02:00] <mof> frogzoo: do you mean windows by wins?
[02:00] <IAskew> davin, for easyubuntu?
[02:00] <Starscrea1> Hi all!, can anyone help me to get my ATI X700 gfx card to work properly on dapper?
[02:00] <frogzoo> mof: wins = windows name service - or something like that - it's a service that maps ips to netbios names
[02:00] <davin> IAskew: yeah I get "TypeError: cannot concatenate 'str' and 'NoneType' objects" when I do "sudo python easyubuntu.in"
[02:01] <IAskew> davin, sorry, cant help you there, it just worked for me
[02:01] <davin> IAskew: k
[02:01] <IAskew> i spose u could sudo apt-get python
[02:01] <mof> That's it then, because the ubuntu machine does not have a dhcp name.
[02:02] <frogzoo> dfgas: easiest approach: set the samba passwd with 'smbpasswd'
[02:02] <app> I have Ubuntu installed on my disk 1 partition 2. How do I boot it with the live CD? *
[02:02] <dfgas> frogzoo, heh, i don't want login and passwords
[02:02] <Starscrea1> i have downloaded the ATI stuff from synaptics, but I do not know how to enable them?
[02:02] <Starscrea1> any ideas?
[02:02] <Starscrea1> or an ATI X700 wiki about it?
[02:03] <frogzoo> dfgas: well I can tell you how to do this - but then I have to kill you - it's not something rec'dd
[02:03] <davin> http://pastecode.com/2728 <
[02:03] <app> I try to boot my hard disk Ubuntu with the live CD because I can not touch my MBR which has Pointsec Windows disk encryption booter.
[02:03] <dfgas> frogzoo, heh
[02:03] <frogzoo> dfgas: 'sudo smbpasswd -n nobody'  should do it
[02:04] <IAskew> python easyubuntu.in davin? not sudo easy.....
[02:04] <davin> IAskew: but im root
[02:04] <IAskew> ahh
[02:04] <frogzoo> dfgas: please make sure you have a firewall preventing anonymous browsing of your samba shares....
[02:04] <davin> hey
[02:04] <davin> it works
[02:04] <davin> i ran it without root and did sudo
[02:05] <dfgas> frogzoo, router
[02:05] <frogzoo> dfgas: cool
[02:05] <dfgas> and everything local needs the shares
[02:05] <park_canada> i can't run sudo /proc/cpuinfo. the error: command not found
[02:05] <frogzoo> park_canada: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[02:06] <park_canada> thanks
[02:06] <davin> IAskew: it got stuck :/
[02:06] <IAskew> :/
[02:06] <davin> I get that alot
[02:07] <davin> it just stops when getting packages
[02:07] <davin> reboot brb
[02:09] <frogzoo> df: if that's not working, you may also need: sudo smbpasswd -e nobody
[02:10] <rdenatale> hi, I'm looking for help with a Breezy -> Dapper upgrade gone horribly wrong
[02:11] <frogzoo> rdenatale: generally not worth trying to sort it out tbh - clean install
[02:11] <rdenatale> the problem is, it will take days to rebuild this system after a clean install
[02:12] <davin> hm seems done
[02:12] <J_P> hi all
[02:13] <Paddy_EIRE> <frying_fish
[02:13] <zkchong> can somebody help me? I think my grub is corrupted and I unable to start the computer right now.
[02:13] <zkchong> but somehow I mange to boot using the live CD...
[02:13] <zkchong> sos.
[02:13] <davin> eww still nothing =\
[02:13] <frogzoo> zkchong: can you halt the boot to get a grub prompt?
[02:13] <davin> restart x maybe
[02:14] <jpjacobs> zkchong, maybe this is of help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[02:14] <zkchong> ok thanks jpjacobs
[02:15] <doojin> hi
[02:15] <doojin> Is anyone there?
[02:15] <zkchong> frogzoo, my computer just hang during start up but I still manage to start it using live CD.
[02:15] <davin> bah
[02:15] <zkchong> I guess it may be the grub error.
[02:15] <rdenatale> A bit more about my upgrade prob.  System was running breezy with the root fs on lvm on a raid1 array.  After network upgrade to dapper, it won't boot, saying that /dev/mapper/MainVG... doesn't exist...
 hey man i ended up resetting the comp i did sudo-i then grub after that it told me probing bios devices may take a long time..... the comp was takin forever with no indication of anything happening i couldnt click anything or do anything
[02:16] <rdenatale> ...I've googled this a bit and it seems that there was (is?) a bug in initramfs
[02:16] <davin> what the hell i dont get it
[02:17] <frogzoo> zkchong: forget the live cd for the moment - boot the computer & at the grub promp hit 'c' to get a command line
[02:17] <Paddy_EIRE> grub sucks guys is there some other straight forward way of getting my comp to boot the ubuntu drive
[02:17] <gnomefreak> Paddy_EIRE: lilo
[02:17] <mof> lol
[02:18] <Paddy_EIRE> im sick of running the live cd 2 Weeks now!
[02:18] <zkchong> frogzoo: No man. It totally hang..
[02:18] <zkchong> i cant even get into the grub..
[02:18] <zkchong> it just give me the black screen...
[02:18] <GTX> Hello, I've just re-installed windows but now I want to get grub back. I put in the Ubuntu 6.06 cd and clicked boot from first hard disk and its taking me back to ubuntu ( thank god ). How do I install grub now
[02:18] <Paddy_EIRE> gnomefreak is it straight forward or do i need linux certification to do this
[02:18] <zkchong> I cant  even get to the grub..
[02:18] <frogzoo> !fixgrub
[02:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about fixgrub - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:18] <fyrestrtr> !grub
[02:18] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:18] <mof> paddy: ooo are you funning a sata drive as well?
[02:18] <Paddy_EIRE> frogzoo dont wanna know about grub man
[02:18] <frogzoo> !grub
[02:19] <Paddy_EIRE> no just one ide
[02:19] <gnomefreak> Paddy_EIRE: i havent used lilo in years but i dont remember it being all that hard to use. (its different in hte config part of it)
[02:19] <gnomefreak> !lilo
[02:19] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[02:19] <s> hello?
[02:19] <mof> i had the same problem trying to boot grub from a SATA drive...
[02:19] <s> Can anyone else see what I'm typing?
[02:20] <_osiris_> s yes
[02:20] <_osiris_> we can see you
[02:20] <davin> IAskew: it tells me something about apt-get install -f sun-java5-plugin
[02:20] <s> Oh thank god! LOL
[02:20] <Paddy_EIRE> gnomefreak dont know anything about configuring this, i just wanna run a command like in windows fixmbr
[02:20] <doojin> davin : hi
[02:20] <GTX> Hello, I've just re-installed windows but now I want to get grub back. I put in the Ubuntu 6.06 cd and clicked boot from first hard disk and its taking me back to ubuntu ( thank god ). How do I install grub now
[02:20] <doojin> davin : are you good at english?
[02:20] <fyrestrtr> does anyone know of any known issues with gamma/brightness when using twinview? or xgl?
[02:20] <Paddy_EIRE> GTX good luck man
[02:20] <nalpha> helo i'm installing fedora ds why there is no /opt/fedora-ds/start-admin
[02:20] <s> I know this is gonna be annoying for you guys who are used to linux but I'm just trying it out from a cd and have some questions if anyone could help me?
[02:20] <gnomefreak> davin: do you mean it said sudo apt-get -f install
[02:20] <nalpha> helo i'm installing fedora ds why there is no /opt/fedora-ds/start-admin anyone can help me??
[02:21] <_osiris_> GTX, look here
[02:21] <_osiris_> !grub
[02:21] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:21] <davin> doojin: yes i am
[02:21] <gnomefreak> davin: when using the -f switch you dont use a package name
[02:21] <doojin> davin : "What I suggest is that at six o'clock you look facts in the face and admit that you are not tired (because you are not, you know), and that you arrange your evening so that it is not cut in the middle by a meal. By so doing you will have a clear expanse of at least three hours. I do not suggest that you should employ three hours every night of your life in using up your mental energy. But I do suggest that you might, for a commencement, employ an hour 
[02:21] <doojin> davin : what does cultivation of the mind mean?
[02:22] <GTX> _osiris_, i have
[02:22] <GTX> _osiris_, I want to be able to select windows in grub as well as ubuntu
[02:22] <GTX> so do I presere the windows boot loader
[02:22] <GTX> or not?
[02:22] <davin> doojin: you mean what mental means?
[02:23] <davin> tons of errors with java >_<
[02:23] <_osiris_> you will need to edit the grub menu.lst
[02:23] <nalpha> helo i'm installing fedora ds why there is no /opt/fedora-ds/start-admin anyone can help me??
[02:23] <_osiris_> Grub willl be your boot loader
[02:23] <_osiris_> use nothing else
[02:23] <s> Hello? Could anyone answer a few questions about Ubuntu I have?
[02:23] <favorito> e.g. Assumed that /dev/hda is the location of /boot partition
[02:23] <favorito> grub-install /dev/hda
[02:23] <fl4kk3r> S: sure, what do you want to know?
[02:23] <Paddy_EIRE> GTX and pray u dont loose it
[02:23] <gnomefreak> nalpha: join #fedora for help with fedora core
[02:24] <GTX> Paddy_EIRE, dont lose what?
[02:24] <Paddy_EIRE> GTX grub
[02:24] <s> I'm just experimenting with Ubuntu and I'm running it from the CD from the website at the moment.
[02:24] <GTX> Paddy_EIRE, I dont even have grub at the moment, I've installed windows when I had ubuntu, which has overrited grub. Now I want to be able to put grub back on and boot from windows or ubuntu
[02:24] <s> My laptops touchpad doen't work and whenever I unplug the mains power the screen goes blank instead of the battery taking over. Any ideas?
[02:25] <mof> s: is acpi support installed
[02:25] <fl4kk3r> s: sorry, i've never used ubuntu on a laptop(seeing as i dont own one :P) maybe you should  try asking on the forums
[02:25] <s> How would I find out? LOL
[02:25] <davin> http://www.pastecode.com/2729
[02:25] <Paddy_EIRE> GTX yeah Ive been tying for 2 weeks now, i dont think that greater productivity is among the ubuntu philosophy
[02:25] <davin> I get tons of those errors
[02:25] <s> mof: how would I know? LOL
[02:25] <GTX> Paddy_EIRE, How hard can it be..
[02:26] <mof> the 'windows like way' would be to fire up synaptic and search acpi
[02:26] <s> I can do that. LOL
[02:26] <Paddy_EIRE> GTX thats what i keep saying, but it obviously must be
[02:26] <s> Can we talk where only your text appears?
[02:26] <mof> really i don't know how well it works on laptops at all
[02:27] <s> they're are there.
[02:27] <Paddy_EIRE> whatever happened to fixmbr
[02:27] <s> Where would I find a chat room or forum for help with this?
[02:28] <Starscrea1> what do a type in console to go up to a parent dir?
[02:28] <fl4kk3r> s: www.ubuntuforums.org
[02:28] <Paddy_EIRE> s help with what
[02:28] <s> Sorry?
[02:28] <mof> thems good forums
[02:28] <Starscrea1> can anyone tell me the console command to go to the parent directory?
[02:28] <ian_> !repos
[02:28] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:28] <mof> starscrea1: ..
[02:28] <fl4kk3r> starscreal: cd then directory name
[02:28] <Starscrea1> thanks mof
[02:29] <Paddy_EIRE> GTX if u figure this out let me know
[02:29] <ian_> !easysource
[02:29] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:29] <s> i think i might just stick with windows. lol
[02:30] <davin> finally got it
[02:30] <mof> or duel boot and have both!
[02:30] <s> Yeah, but the touchpad and battery problems will still be there.
[02:30] <mopflite> to go to a parent directory name (i.e. the directory one level above the directory you are currently in) - cd ..
[02:30] <Paddy_EIRE> i think this channel is a little to thinly spread is there a grub help channel?
[02:30] <mopflite> to go up two directories - cd ../..
[02:30] <mopflite> etc
[02:30] <dou213> when i go to System>Administration>Software properties and try to add multiverse and universe repos, i can't, it returns me an error: "Could not download all repository indexes"
[02:30] <s> I'd love to use something like ubuntu instead of windows though.
[02:31] <fl4kk3r> s: what about mepis?
[02:31] <mof> with perseverance they will be fixed
[02:31] <s> Sorry?
[02:31] <s> MEPIS?
[02:31] <mopflite> s: in my experience, linux (any variant) on laptops is a good deal more tricky than linux on desktop hardware, which is usually these days extremely simple
[02:31] <fl4kk3r> s: its a new distro based on ubuntu
[02:31] <seshomaru> excuse me can anyone tell me how to create a keyboard shortcut to termial
[02:32] <dou213> when i go to System>Administration>Software properties and try to add multiverse and universe repos, i can't, it returns me an error: "Could not download all repository indexes"
[02:32] <seshomaru> in Xubuntu
[02:32] <s> Yeah, see I have no idea what a distro is or anything.
[02:32] <s> Most of this talk is way over my head.
[02:32] <Paddy_EIRE> mopflite what about IBM laptops saying that linux and IBM are so cosey
[02:32] <davin> IAskew: thanks man
[02:32] <fl4kk3r> S: a distro is a distribution
[02:32] <fl4kk3r> like ubuntu
[02:32] <mopflite> distro = suse, red hat, debian, ubuntu etc
[02:32] <s> From what the website said I thought it would be fairly easy and it is except these two problems.
[02:32] <s> Ah right.
[02:32] <fl4kk3r> s: whats the make/model of your laptop?
[02:32] <s> So linux is just a base and then a distro goes over the top of it?
[02:33] <s> Toshiba Satellite P10
[02:33] <fl4kk3r> s:mmhmm
[02:33] <s> Thank you fl4kk3r for answering that.
[02:33] <s> So why would I choose one distro over another?
[02:33] <mof> S: this might help http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=230565
[02:34] <mof> you can also IM someone with the green arrow
[02:34] <s> Thanks mof. what am I looking at though? LOL
[02:34] <IAskew> davin, yvw
[02:34] <blay|idle> trying to connect new Ubuntu box to current network (win boxes) where might I find documentation on this?
[02:35] <davin> holy crap! amarok works!
[02:35] <dou213> what is the equivalent of explorer-refresh from windows in ubuntu?
[02:35] <davin> I love easyubuntu <3
[02:35] <Paddy_EIRE> anyone fancy helping me fix grub no ubotu please
[02:35] <davin> sorry for the language =(
[02:35] <mof> sorry that was useless
[02:35] <Rambo3> Paddy just ask
[02:35] <Paddy_EIRE> Rambo3 have been for 2 weeks!
[02:36] <seshomaru> does anyone know how to create a keyboard shortcut to the terminal in Xubuntu
[02:36] <davin> how do I go about setting up my webcam?
[02:37] <Rambo3> then ask again
[02:37] <seshomaru> i mean - i want to envoke a terminal session by pressing a keyboard combination
[02:37] <s> Is there no way of just downloading a touchpad driver of some description?
[02:38] <fl4kk3r> s: are you on the laptop itself?
[02:38] <seshomaru> anybody knows hows?
[02:38] <s> Yeah
[02:38] <Paddy_EIRE> Rambo3 it may be ubuntu last chance here :(, if these kinda errors stop productivity so much for so long then how can i recommend it to anyone if i need a linux cert to fix a damn bootloader???? (never have i had a simple prob like this go on for so long)
[02:38] <s> I have an external USB mouse which works no problems.
[02:38] <fl4kk3r> s: are you using a usb mouse?
[02:38] <andwhyX86> hi everybody
[02:39] <mof> Wow there a lot of posts about problems Toshiba laptops, driver generally come with the kernel but more can be added.
[02:39] <Paddy_EIRE> i just want to install grub simply on the 1 ubuntu hd on this comp running the live cd now (no ubotu please)
[02:39] <dou213> hey when i add universe & multiverse repos, it returns me this error: "Could not download all repository indexes"
[02:39] <s> I'm so confused now. LOL
[02:39] <fl4kk3r> s: what are you using to click?
[02:39] <WOW> hello i have a problem with 855gm intel and im having problems running World of warcraft -openGL does anone have any infromation
[02:40] <s> If I can make the touchpad and power management things work I'll probably install the thing properly. Since open office and everything else seems to do what I need it to.
[02:40] <s> The external USB mouse.
[02:40] <WOW> WoW - Intel 855M -openGl HELP!!
[02:40] <fl4kk3r> try this
[02:40] <Rambo3> Paddy_EIRE ok , where is you ubuntu installed then /dev/hda[1-5] 
[02:40] <fl4kk3r> s: disconnect your usb mouse
[02:41] <s> done
[02:41] <Paddy_EIRE> Rambo3 whats the most accurate way to check
[02:41] <fl4kk3r> s: then type this in the terminal (without hte "'s) "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[02:41] <s> i can't get a terminal window without a mouse can i? LOL
[02:41] <davin> whuut
[02:41] <davin> I try to delete something and it says I dont have permission to my recycle bin
[02:41] <app> Can I use the live CD to boot my Ubuntu partition, because I can not touch
[02:41] <fl4kk3r> s: press ALT then F2
[02:42] <Juhaz> s, sure you can
[02:42] <fyrestrtr> s: ctrl+alt+f1
[02:42] <seshomaru> does anyone know how to create a keyboard shortcut to the terminal in Xubuntu
[02:42] <fl4kk3r> ther
[02:42] <WOW> WoW - Intel 855M -openGl HELP!!
[02:42] <fl4kk3r> hahaha
[02:42] <ericf> I have mysql-server-5.0 installed on 6.06 and it was running fine, until now. Mysql won't start and basically says two things: "[ERROR]  /usr/sbin/mysqld: Incorrect information in file: './mysql/user.frm'"  and "error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)  Check that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' exists". The first file "user.frm" is not in /var/lib/mysql/
[02:42] <ericf>  (and can't find it elsewhere); the socket is not visible as file. What should I do?
[02:42] <app> Can I use the live CD to boot my Ubuntu partition, because I can not touch my MBR, which has company specific stuff...
[02:42] <app> My Ubuntu is on 2nd partition of the onli IDE disk
[02:42] <Juhaz> s, alt+f1 opens the gnome main menu, alt+f2 opens a run dialog
[02:42] <mof> wont s get stuck if if they dont know that ctrl+alt+f7 will bring them back?
[02:43] <Paddy_EIRE> Rambo3 whats the most accurate way to check
[02:43] <app> Live CD gives a menu item to boot from hard disk, but how do I tell it to use 2nd partition?
[02:43] <Rambo3> do a fdisk -l /dev/hda
[02:43] <Rambo3> you might need sudo there
[02:43] <Rambo3> i dont know
[02:45] <Paddy_EIRE> rambo3 Disk /dev/hda doesn't contain a valid partition table
[02:45] <Paddy_EIRE> ?
[02:45] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah it does
[02:45] <acojlo> how-to winmodem? I use slmodemd but gnome-ppp and wvdial can not get right with login pass
[02:45] <seshomaru> hello - this must be a simple question - which command starts a terminal session?
[02:45] <nikin> app, i dont know much but there is a way to make a GRUB floppy and that will managge the thing
[02:46] <Paddy_EIRE> seshomaru gnome-terminal
[02:46] <Rambo3> Paddy_EIRE where is linux then
[02:46] <GTX> If I overwrite the window bootloader does that man I cant boot windows?
[02:46] <monkster> Hi! Just installed 6.06 on an HP dv5000t laptop. Everything works pretty great! But, sound is a little soft. Run gnome-volume-control and all controls are maxed out. Where else should I look?
[02:46] <Paddy_EIRE> Rambo3 on that drive
[02:46] <seshomaru> on Xubuntu
[02:46] <nikin> sashomaru: Xterm
[02:46] <Paddy_EIRE> which wont mount either
[02:46] <seshomaru> Paddy_EIRE, on Xubuntu
[02:46] <Paddy_EIRE> seshomaru no idea
[02:46] <seshomaru> thanks
[02:47] <s> ok i just got stuck in some dos like thin
[02:47] <app> nikin, thanks, but even though I could make a GRUB boot cd (no floppy drive!), I though it should not be necessary...
[02:47] <Paddy_EIRE> seshomaru xfce-terminal maybe
[02:47] <seshomaru> trying...
[02:47] <fyrestrtr> seshomaru: xterm should work regardless of what you are running
[02:47] <gnomefreak> xfcce4-terminal or xterm (both should work)
[02:47] <Rambo3> Paddy_EIRE , do you have IDE hd is it on master or slave
[02:48] <WOW> WoW - Intel 855M -openGl HELP!!
[02:48] <Paddy_EIRE> Rambo3 cable select
[02:48] <Paddy_EIRE> Rambo3 will i just do master on primary channel
[02:48] <nikin> app: the MBR managges the booting from hardrive, and if you have to leave it, then you need an other MBR, Floppy/CD/secondHD to do it.. i am not 100% sure but 98% ...
[02:49] <seshomaru> fyrestrtr, im trying to set a keyboard shortcut , i put xterm as command but it doesn't work
[02:49] <Paddy_EIRE> Rambo3 always worked before, although the windows drive did die
[02:49] <papa> hello
[02:49] <nikin> Paddy: xterm rules :D
[02:49] <Rambo3> Paddy_EIRE do you have windows on it , or is ubuntu on first partition
[02:49] <papa> I'm problemt to connect irc.hispano.org. Can any help my?
[02:49] <Paddy_EIRE> Rambo3 Had i windows drive primary channel cable select 1 ubuntu drive secondary channel cable select
[02:50] <Rambo3> Paddy_EIRE if its only hd it should be primary master
[02:50] <Paddy_EIRE> windows drive died
[02:50] <s> fl4kk3r?
[02:50] <nikin> Paddy: whats the prob?
[02:50] <s> fl4kker?
[02:50] <Rambo3> then change them and put ubuntu HD as first .
[02:50] <fl4kk3r> LOL
[02:50] <fl4kk3r> I PRESSED SOMETHING THEN UBUNTU CRASHEd
[02:50] <fl4kk3r> s: sorry
[02:51] <app> nikin, the point is the live CD already has a menu item to "boot hard disk". Just need a parameter for it to use 2nd partition....
[02:51] <s> hey, i tried that line in the terminal and it siad Package `xsever-xorg' is not installed and no info is available.
[02:51] <s> Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
[02:51] <s> and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
[02:51] <s> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xsever-xorg is not installed
[02:51] <davin> Oo
[02:51] <s> lol sorry for that!
[02:51] <Rambo3> i bet you are getting grub error 17 on that Paddy_EIRE
[02:51] <fl4kk3r> s: maybe thats because you havent actually instaleld ubuntu
[02:51] <s> ah right.
[02:51] <fl4kk3r> s: do you have windows currently installed on your laptop?
[02:51] <Paddy_EIRE> nikin trying to install grub (already got all this !grub and ubuntu guides and 2 weeks worth of searching
[02:51] <s> yeah
[02:51] <s> so I can't try it out then. I have to go for it completely. Nervous I think.
[02:51] <fl4kk3r> s: you probably shouldn't risk losing it
[02:52] <Paddy_EIRE> Rambo3 i dont get any error just nothing
[02:52] <paniq> hey whats the deal with missing wpa support in ubuntu?
[02:52] <fl4kk3r> s: try the MEPIS live cd
[02:52] <s> whats that?
[02:52] <fl4kk3r> s: its based on ubuntu, its sort of like it but w/ a few differences
[02:52] <osfameron> I thought WPA was in Dapper?
[02:52] <Rambo3> Paddy_EIRE can you switch the disks so that HD where ubuntu is primary master .
[02:53] <bleh> I cant mount dvd -r cds.. help me please :(
[02:53] <paniq> osfameron: wpa is not in the dapper gui... you have to set it up manually... and i wonder
[02:53] <mof> osfameron: only through WPA suplicant
[02:53] <osfameron> bah, that is a bit pish
[02:53] <Paddy_EIRE> Rambo3 k ill be back man
[02:53] <paniq> because the missing wpa support in the gui is one of the major negative arguments against ubuntu for my noobish colleagues
[02:53] <nikin> app maybe root=/dev/hda2 param will help
[02:53] <WOW> Has any1 got world of warcraft to work on ubuntu need HELP!!
[02:53] <fl4kk3r> s: except
[02:53] <nikin> but i ame totaly not sure
[02:53] <s> downloading mepis as we speak
[02:54] <fl4kk3r> s: it uses KDE instead of Gnome
[02:54] <fl4kk3r> s: it looks better than gnome
[02:54] <s> Right. Is that a problem?
[02:54] <s> Ah right.
[02:54] <fl4kk3r> s: but it was slightly harder for me to understand
[02:54] <dou213> hey when i add universe & multiverse repos, it returns me this error: "Could not download all repository indexes"
[02:54] <fl4kk3r> s: wait
[02:54] <peg> what is the name of the plugin that makes fire fox look like expolorer to the web server???
[02:54] <fl4kk3r> s: hmm
[02:54] <s> There must be a way to make the touchpad and battery thing work on ubuntu though?
[02:54] <Juhaz> s, it's xserver, not xsever
[02:54] <fl4kk3r> s: THAT might be the problem
[02:55] <fl4kk3r> s: lol
[02:55] <linux_manju> peg: what purpose does it serve?
[02:55] <GTX> If I overwrite the window bootloader does that man I cant boot windows?
[02:55] <s> it's run a program about ato detecting stuff?
[02:55] <seshomaru> fyrestrtr, sorry , i was wrong xterm works....thanks
[02:55] <app> nikin, I will try that, but do I use that LILO/Linux syntax or GRUB syntax "root (hd0,1)"
[02:55] <s> I'm using alt tab to switch between this window and that one.
[02:55] <monkster> GTX: no
[02:56] <fl4kk3r> s: er, im not sure if it will save the changes
[02:56] <elodie> salut
[02:56] <fl4kk3r> s: because like i said
[02:56] <fl4kk3r> s: you havent actually installed ubuntu on your hard drive
[02:56] <elodie> vous parler pas francais
[02:56] <fl4kk3r> s: is your windows a fresh installation? or do you have important data on it?
[02:56] <fl4kk3r> s: on your laptop i mean
[02:56] <nikin> app: this was the whoole line in a knoopix Grub menu file:  kernel (hd0,0)/vmlinuz root=/dev/hdb1
[02:57] <nikin> try to modify theese things for your needs
[02:57] <elodie> desole je parle pas anglais
[02:57] <s> OK. So, firstly, thank you and Juhaz for your help so far.
[02:57] <mof> Is MEPIS the one that calls home to see if it has been registered?
[02:57] <app> thx nikin, i will try
[02:57] <s> No, most of the data is losable.
[02:58] <fl4kk3r> s: have you defragmented your hard drive? or were you planning on wiping the whole thing for ubuntu?
[02:58] <elodie> il y a quelquun qui s'est ecrire francais ici
[02:58] <s> If I format my harddrive and install Ubuntu what are the chances of me getting the touchpad and battery things to work out?
[02:58] <s> LOL
[02:58] <s> I'll wipe it all for ubuntu
[02:58] <nikin> s: if its not working with the live CD, the not much
[02:58] <s> Thanks nikin.
[02:58] <ajmitch> !fr > elodie
[02:58] <nalpha> anyone know how to send message in a network???
[02:58] <Juhaz> ubuntu should come with a touchpad driver preconfigured, so there's likely something in that particular laptop that isn't like most of them
[02:58] <nikin> s: what kind of notebbok are you using?
[02:59] <peg> linux_manju,    to trick the web server
[02:59] <s> Toshiba Satellite P10
[02:59] <Juhaz> google turns out this: http://www.kroon.co.za/howto.php?howto=toshiba_p10#touchpad
[02:59] <app> Where are the live CD boot options documented?
[02:59] <nikin> Juhaz: i agree, i have a clevo, with intel chipset, and its working fine
[02:59] <monkster> For example, Synaptic touchpad works great on an HP dv5000t I installed 606 on. Taps for clicks, side scroll... everythin.
[02:59] <Juhaz> it's bit outdated, so I don't have a clue whether or not that kernel patch is no longer required, but if it doesn't work out of the box, it seems likely
[03:00] <neutrinomass> OK. I installed powertweak-gtk, which requires root privileges to run. Starting it as gksudo produces two windows in the taskbar, one is gpowertweak and the other is "starting administrative application". Starting it with sudo (which is wrong though, since it's a graphical problem) is OK. What's going on ?
[03:00] <nalpha> anyone know how to send message in a network???
[03:00] <neutrinomass> nalpha: What exactly do you mean ?
[03:00] <nikin> app: /boot/grub/menu.lst is well commented
[03:00] <Juhaz> so, perhaps it'd be possible to get it to work, but patching and recompiling kernel as the first thing they do isn't exactly what I would recommend to a first time user
[03:01] <nalpha> anyone know how to send message in a network??? like sent in windows... and the message appear in front of dekstop
[03:01] <s> No
[03:01] <bleh> why cant I get dvd-r disks to mount?
[03:01] <no_gatez_fan> good morning, i try to run "software updates" and it says it is impossible to install of remove...(i can type the whole message if needed)....run sudo apt-get install -f in a terminal to fix this issue...then I do that and it says cannot unlock the admai directory.....is it in use....do I have to basically run the terminal in level 3 to do that repair? and I also run "synaptic package manager"...that says to remove broken p
[03:01] <no_gatez_fan> ackage first with the broken filter but that finds nothing...any ideas?
[03:01] <s> It's all sounding very involved now.
[03:01] <monkster> nalpha: try linpopup
[03:01] <nalpha> thanx
[03:01] <app> nikin, but the live CD boot process is not exactly GRUB, but something more/else
[03:01] <bogo> does anyone know how to change the system keymap after installing?
[03:01] <no_gatez_fan> broken package filter cant find anything
[03:02] <elodie> salut
[03:02] <gnomefreak> no_gatez_fan: close synaptic than at a terminal type sudo apt-get -f install
[03:02] <Chons> no_gatez_fan: close synaptic and try again
[03:02] <bogo> I selected the wrong one at the install screen
[03:02] <elodie> hello
[03:02] <frogzoo> bogo: xmodmap
[03:02] <no_gatez_fan> i tried 3 times now but i will try again
[03:02] <jpjacobs> hi
[03:02] <elodie> who are you
[03:03] <bogo> frogzoo, will it affect the console too?
[03:03] <peg> I want the client to tell the web server that it is IE
[03:03] <davin> i try and delete a folder and it says i dont have access to <trashbin>\<filename>
[03:03] <GTX> If I overwrite the window bootloader does that man I cant boot windows?
[03:03] <elodie> my name is elodie
[03:03] <davin> elodie: no way sherlock
[03:03] <s> Well thanks anyway everyone.
[03:03] <frogzoo> bogo: sys -> prefs -> keyboard is what you need, also 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' & you can select kb
[03:03] <neutrinomass> no_gatez_fan: If that fails, try lsof | grep <path_to_admai directory>
[03:03] <gnomefreak> elodie: this is an ubuntu support channel please join #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat
[03:03] <afief> How can i play QuickTime movies in Firefox?
[03:03] <nikin> app: i ame not a hacker ;) so that is all i know :(
[03:03] <s> I'll have to stick with Windows.
[03:03] <elodie> i dont speak english je suis francaise
[03:04] <fl4kk3r> s: gimme 5 more minutes heheh
[03:04] <neutrinomass> !fr > elodie
[03:04] <s> OK fl4kk3r. I appreciate it.
[03:04] <gnomefreak> !quicktime > afief
[03:04] <s> If I can have ubuntu I'd be over the moon. LOL
[03:04] <s> Can we talk with IM?
[03:04] <davin> i try and delete a folder and it says i dont have access to <trashbin>\<filename>
[03:04] <elodie> sorry je ne comprend pas l anglais
[03:04] <nikin> s : so your battery and tuchpad arent working...
[03:04] <davin> s: You could use Ubuntu and use Wimpdows in a VM (I do that)
[03:04] <bogo> frogzoo, I need to change it for the whole system. Won't these commands deal only with X?
[03:05] <no_gatez_fan> wow, that terminal command ran this time for some reason....it ran in terminal and now good to go looks like...thanks
[03:05] <user-land> hello, how do you install Skype on Ubuntu ? the repository recommended by Ubuntuguide does not work ...
[03:05] <Rambo3> sudo rm -rf .Trash/*
[03:05] <gnomefreak> no_gatez_fan: you can only run 1 instence of apt at a time
[03:05] <s> Yeah. my touchpad won't work (but my USB external mouse does) and my battery thing just doesn't seem to work. It just goes blank when I unplug the mains.
[03:05] <gnomefreak> no_gatez_fan: synaptic is an apt process
[03:05] <bogo> user-land, have you seen EasyUbuntu:
[03:05] <elodie> bande de connard
[03:05] <davin> no_gatez_fan: including front-ends like synaptic and adept
[03:05] <frogzoo> bogo: so it's messed up at the console as well?
[03:05] <no_gatez_fan> thanks, I had it closed, but i guess it wasnt
[03:05] <no_gatez_fan> thanks
[03:05] <user-land> bogo, yes, i installed it.
[03:05] <gnomefreak> elodie: join #ubuntu-fr
[03:06] <no_gatez_fan> got ya
[03:06] <elodie> merde
[03:06] <elodie> je vous emmerde bande de fils de pute
[03:06] <bogo> frogzoo, yes, since I selected the wrong one at the boot screen of the install CD :(
[03:06] <s> je parle quelque franais
[03:06] <bogo> user-land, and it didn't work:
[03:07] <s> Etre agrable!
[03:07] <neutrinomass> OK. I installed powertweak-gtk, which requires root privileges to run. Starting it as gksudo produces two windows in the taskbar, one is gpowertweak and the other is "starting administrative application". Starting it with sudo (which is wrong though, since it's a graphical problem) is OK. What's going on ?
[03:07] <MethoS> has anyone successfully installed gcompizthemer ?
[03:07] <s> elodie was rather rude then! LOL
[03:08] <davin> I try to delete the folder 'jre1.5.0_06' and it says 'Access to /home/davin/.local/share/Trash/files/jre1.5.0_06 denied'
[03:08] <fl4kk3r> s: maybe you should try using ubuntu on VMware on windows
[03:08] <fl4kk3r> and see if it works
[03:09] <s> whats that?
[03:09] <neutrinomass> s: Have you filed bug reports for your problems?
[03:09] <user-land> bogo, i don't see how to install skype with easyubuntu ?
[03:09] <peg> what is the name of the fire fox plugin that tricks the web server into thining you are a internet exploerer browser when using fire fox
[03:09] <davin> s: a Virtual Machine (like a fake PC) read www.vmware.com
[03:09] <s> I haven't filed bug reports.
Ok man im back with the ubuntu on primary jumper set to master
[03:10] <s> I only downloaded ubuntu this morning. From what I read it was a simple thing to install and start using.
[03:10] <frogzoo> bogo: loadkeys & friends - not really sure how to do this, but that's a start hopefully
[03:10] <fl4kk3r> s: its a whole lot easier on desktops
[03:10] <davin> I try to delete the folder 'jre1.5.0_06' and it says 'Access to /home/davin/.local/share/Trash/files/jre1.5.0_06 denied'
[03:10] <firstknight> hei, I need to install app via klik. It expects kdialog. How do I install kdialog ( apt-get install kdialog not work )?
[03:10] <gnomefreak> use sudo to delete it
[03:10] <s> It's a shame.
[03:11] <davin> sudo rm <file> ?
[03:11] <s> I guess I shouldn't have such an arkward PC. LOL
[03:11] <s> I'll just stick with windows. Maybe do a reinstall of that.
[03:11] <fl4kk3r> s: sigh. it sucks to lose someone to windows :(
[03:11] <GTX> If I overwrite the window bootloader does that man I cant boot windows?
[03:11] <frogzoo> bogo: "/usr/share/keymaps/defkeymap.kmap default keymap loaded by -d option"
[03:11] <gnomefreak> davin: is it in your trash file?
[03:11] <s> (And wait 4 hours for it to update). LOL
[03:11] <davin> no
[03:11] <davin> it gives me that when I try to delete it from my desktop
[03:11] <Paddy_EIRE> s you can slipstream updates onto the windows cd
[03:11] <monkster> GTX: no
[03:11] <davin> rm cant delete folders :/
[03:11] <fl4kk3r> davin: rm -R
[03:11] <s> I can what?
[03:11] <gnomefreak> davin: than yes but becareful with rm
[03:12] <Paddy_EIRE> s 1 sec ill get u the guide its pretty simple
[03:12] <s> To do what? LOL
[03:12] <davin> gives me access denied again
[03:12] <GTX> Guys, I have re-installed windows on my pc just to play some games, Windows is on a seperate hard drive and so is Ubuntu, I want to reinstall grub so both will work and I can select it from a list... I have looked at the ubuntuafterinstallingwindows help but I have had no luck with it? Any  ideas?
[03:12] <fl4kk3r> davin: did you do it w/ sudo?
[03:12] <davin> yes
[03:12] <Paddy_EIRE> GTX how long have u had this prob
[03:13] <davin> davin@davin-ub:~/Desktop$ sudo rm -R jre1.5.0_06
[03:13] <s> Is there another Linux distro I might be better with?
[03:13] <GTX> Paddy_EIRE, Sinse I installed windows last night :p
[03:13] <davin> oh its gone now
[03:13] <davin> nevermind
[03:13] <fl4kk3r> s: MEPIS if you want kde, or suse if you want gnome (what ubuntu uses)
[03:13] <erUSUL> !grub > GTX
[03:13] <davin> thanks fl4kk3r and gnomefreak
[03:13] <gnomefreak> davin: sudo rm -rf (path to file/file)
[03:13] <s> Which is best?
[03:13] <GTX> erUSUL, didnt you see what I said! ive already done that
[03:13] <fl4kk3r> davin : np
 here http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/windowsxp_sp2_slipstream.asp
[03:13] <davin> im going to enjoy some games now, thanks everyone for helping me, have a nice day
[03:13] <Juhaz> s, doubtful, since it looks like an issue with broken bios on your laptop, but it can't hurt to try some
[03:14] <fl4kk3r> s: i prefer gnome, cause thats what im used ot
[03:14] <fl4kk3r> s: but kde is alot prettier
[03:14] <s> "prettier"?
[03:14] <Shinzetsu|AFK> fl4kk3r: you know what Linus said about Gnome? =p
[03:14] <fl4kk3r> s: more pleasing to teh eyes :)
[03:14] <s> Oh right.
[03:14] <Juhaz> beauty is in the eye of beholder, and personally, I think KDE looks just as pleasing to the eye as a pile of dog poo
[03:15] <s> i'm gonna check out some screenshots
[03:15] <gnomefreak> guys stay on topic please
[03:15] <Shinzetsu|AFK> fl4kk3r: try to find that Linus - Gnome debat online, youll laugh your mouth off
[03:15] <Shinzetsu|AFK> afk
[03:15] <abhinay> Shinzetsu|AFK, wot Linus said about Gnome ?
[03:15] <GTX> Guys, I have re-installed windows on my pc just to play some games, Windows is on a seperate hard drive and so is Ubuntu, I want to reinstall grub so both will work and I can select it from a list... I have looked at the ubuntuafterinstallingwindows help but I have had no luck with it? Any  ideas?
[03:15] <gnomefreak> abhinay: abd Shinzetsu|AFK join #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:16] <gnomefreak> s/abd/and
[03:16] <fl4kk3r> gtx: i think the ubuntu after windows only works if they're on the same hard drive
[03:16] <Shinzetsu|AFK> ah
[03:16] <abhinay> hmm.......
[03:16] <erUSUL> !repeat > GTX
[03:16] <Shinzetsu> 1 more question
[03:16] <GTX> erUSUL, Stop with that!
[03:16] <Shinzetsu> when I transfer files from Linux to my usb thumbdrive, its alright
[03:16] <Shinzetsu> but when I put it in a Windows PC it cant see the file
[03:16] <Shinzetsu> though it is FAT
[03:16] <seshomaru> one more XFCE question - is there a screensaver?
[03:16] <GTX> same here fl4kk3r,  Thats the problem :\
[03:17] <fl4kk3r> gtx: have you tried the forums?
[03:17] <Paddy_EIRE> isnt this supposed to be a ubuntu tech support channel
[03:17] <Shinzetsu> abhinay: "GNOME are interface nazi's" he said =p
[03:17] <GTX> nope fl4kk3r, I dont have the time to atm
[03:17] <bogo> frogzoo, I don't have this defkeymap.kmap file
[03:17] <erUSUL> GTX: where does the wiki guide failed to you? to help you out we need some info "i have had no luck with it" is useless
[03:17] <Rambo3> Paddy_EIRE still here
[03:17] <Shinzetsu> sorry gnomefreak I got it too late
[03:17] <Paddy_EIRE> Rambo3 nice one i was about to log of (indefinitely)
[03:18] <nikin_> re
[03:18] <bogo> user-land, when you run easyubuntu one of the tabs has a chackbox for skype. You simply check it
[03:18] <Rambo3> Paddy_EIRE you are on live cd now right
[03:18] <acojlo> how to stop showing join / quit messages on this forum?
[03:18] <Snake> Hey guys, after this last update I now have a "Computer" and "Trash" icon on my desktop, and I want rid of it, how do I Do that???
[03:18] <Paddy_EIRE> Rambo3 yep
[03:18] <frogzoo> bogo: don't know, but I have to split
[03:18] <acojlo> x-chat gnome
[03:18] <s> hey, thanks for that Paddy_EIRE
[03:18] <s> it should come in useful
[03:18] <nikin_> acojlo: what client program are you using
[03:18] <nikin_> ?
[03:18] <Paddy_EIRE> no probs
[03:18] <mirak> hi
[03:19] <acojlo> nikin_  x-chat gnome
[03:19] <fl4kk3r> s: i g2g but if it still doesn't work for you, you should try again on october cause thats when the edgy is released
[03:19] <s> ah right. thanks for that.
[03:19] <Snake> Hey guys, after this last update I now have a "Computer" and "Trash" icon on my desktop, and I want rid of it, how do I Do that???
[03:19] <Rambo3> Paddy_EIRE in terminal : sudo mkdir /mnt/tmp && sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/tmp && sudo chroot /mnt/tmp && sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[03:19] <fl4kk3r> s: sorry, couldn't find anything at all
[03:19] <fl4kk3r> s: ehehehe
[03:19] <s> thanks for your help too. shame it's back to windows for me. LOL
[03:19] <mirak> I try to install bittorrent client for the www.bittorrent site, but it says it depends on python-psycho and it's not in dapper anymore
[03:19] <fl4kk3r> s: i feel sorry for you :p
[03:19] <fl4kk3r> g23g
[03:19] <nikin_> acojolo i dont have Xchat , so i dont know.. sorry :(
[03:19] <mirak> what must I install instead ?
[03:19] <Paddy_EIRE> Rambo3 i think im hdc1 will i just put that in place of hda
[03:20] <s> OK
[03:20] <seshomaru> GTK - I installed Windows after Ubuntu -maybe I can help
[03:20] <Rambo3> Paddy_EIRE hdc1 is you cd
[03:20] <s> So does anyone know of a distro that will probably work for me? LOL
[03:20] <michael___> hello! i am about to install drivers for my ati card. now i see that there are two types of drivers, either the fglrx or the original ati drivers. which should i install?
[03:20] <michael___> i have a ati x1800 card
[03:20] <nikin_> s: try Fedora Core 5 its th other side of Linux system :D
[03:20] <Paddy_EIRE> Rambo3 what was that checking method again
[03:21] <s> What do you mean "the other side"?
[03:21] <Snake> Hey guys, after this last update I now have a "Computer" and "Trash" icon on my desktop, and I want rid of it, yet I dont have permission to delete it, and it doesnt show up in the terminal when I go to it.
[03:21] <Snake> how do IGet rid of it
[03:21] <Rambo3> fdisk -l /dev/hd[a-z] [1-100]  where hda1 would be my guess
[03:21] <erUSUL> Snake: install gtweakui nautilus
[03:21] <Snake> ok
[03:21] <james__> Hi, I just installed Ubuntu (dapper) this week and this is my first time on IRC ever.  I was wondering how to run a script (*.sh) from terminal.
[03:22] <seshomaru> GTK - you dont need to reinstall grub
[03:22] <Paddy_EIRE> Cannot open /dev/hdc1
[03:22] <erUSUL> james__: 'sh *.sh' is one way
[03:22] <Rambo3> Paddy_EIRE sudo fdisk -l  /dev/hda1
[03:22] <michael___> james__: i *think* you would need to use: sudo ./scriptname.sh
[03:22] <james__> oh, I think I forgot sudo.  thank you, I'll try it now.
[03:22] <michael___> james__: sudo sh ./...sh
[03:23] <monkster> GTX: years ago there was bootpart. With it, WindowsNT and Linux would show up on the Windows boot menu. Don't know what the status of this technique is now, but then you could let Windows own the mbr and still boot linux.
[03:23] <Paddy_EIRE> Rambo3 it just goes to the next line
[03:23] <s> Hey Paddy, what do you use?
[03:23] <Rambo3> sorry it should say hda not hda1
[03:23] <Rambo3> Paddy_EIRE sudo fdisk -l  /dev/hda
 ubuntu
[03:23] <Paddy_EIRE> dapper
[03:24] <lmosher> Hi I have a digital camera that (according to several sites on Google) will just register as a USB device on Ubuntu. I have a normal stick and it auto-mounts. Plugging in the camera does nothing.. any ideas?
[03:24] <Paddy_EIRE> Disk /dev/hda doesn't contain a valid partition table
[03:24] <Rambo3> Paddy_EIRE sudo fdisk -l  /dev/hdb
[03:24] <s> That's this disc I'm using now.
[03:24] <s> Ugh.
[03:24] <Dimitrije> How to run metacity? If i run it from console with metacity --replace it disappears when i close console.
[03:24] <s> I'm so upset it didn't work. I wanted to ditch windows for a long time.
[03:24] <acojlo> bootlogd, klogd, sysklogd - which one to use ?
[03:25] <Paddy_EIRE> Rambo3 just goes to the next line
[03:25] <lmosher> Dimitrije, use "metacity --replace &" so that the process doesn't get killed when you close the terminal
[03:25] <Dimitrije> Thanks!
[03:25] <Rambo3> Paddy_EIRE sudo fdisk -l  /dev/hdc
[03:25] <Zyfo> Can I remove the titlebar in applications (gaim)? If so, where and how?
[03:25] <Paddy_EIRE> Rambo3 that got it
[03:26] <Paddy_EIRE> Rambo3 hdc1 is linux
[03:26] <james__> ok, the script is on my desktop, and I'm in the desktop directory in terminal, but when I run "sudo ./check.sh" I get "command not found"
[03:26] <A[D] minS> !oracle
[03:26] <ubotu> If you -must- install oracle .... here's a good place to start: http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/linux/install/xe-on-kubuntu.html
[03:27] <Rambo3> Paddy_EIRE does it list partition type
[03:28] <Paddy_EIRE> Rambo3 what do u mean fs type ext2,3 etc
[03:29] <Ram0n> Hi
[03:29] <Ram0n> What's the commands to reconfigure an packate?
[03:29] <Ram0n> *package/
[03:29] <Rambo3> Paddy_EIRE in terminal : sudo mkdir /mnt/tmp && sudo mount /dev/hdc1 /mnt/tmp && sudo chroot /mnt/tmp && sudo grub-install /dev/hdc
[03:29] <Wheelybin> !boinc
[03:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about boinc - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:29] <Wheelybin> !seti@home
[03:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about seti@home - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:29] <james__> Anyone know where I can find out what graphics card and driver I'm using in Dapper?
[03:29] <Ram0n> eg. I installed mysql and want to reconfigure it, what the command?
[03:30] <ic56> Rambo3: you said something like: /dev/hda[1-100]   file expression ranges don't work that way.  They are purely character ranges. this one is interpreted as the range from 1 through to 1 (ie a single character) and the character 0 (the shell doesn't care that 0 was repeated -- redundancy makes no difference to the shell)
[03:30] <Paddy_EIRE> Rambo3 what now
[03:30] <Wheelybin> Ahh, I feel stupid. I downloaded from BOINC's site this .sh file, but I don't know how to execute it.
[03:30] <Rambo3> Paddy_EIRE did it install ?
[03:30] <s> Ok
[03:30] <james__> I'm having the same problem Wheelybin
[03:30] <s> Well thanks evryone anyway.
[03:31] <Paddy_EIRE> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mkdir /mnt/tmp && sudo mount /dev/hdc1 /mnt/tmp && sudo chroot /mnt/tmp && sudo grub-install /dev/hdc
[03:31] <Paddy_EIRE> root@ubuntu:/#
[03:31] <s> Enjoy linux and think of me stuck with windows. LOL
[03:31] <Rambo3> ic56 i sad it as description no as command
[03:31] <Wheelybin> Your name is shiny yellow James, I'm not familiar with IRC, what does it mean?
[03:31] <Paddy_EIRE> Rambo3 why doesnt linux ever tell u if it actually executed what was typed??
[03:32] <frying_fish> Paddy_EIRE: how do you mean?
[03:32] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, it tells you if it fails
[03:32] <frying_fish> it tells you if what you typed doesn't execute...
[03:32] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul i suppose thats enough
[03:32] <frying_fish> why does it need to give you a success when it tells you if it fails.
[03:32] <ic56> : np.  Just didn't want newbies watching the conversation to think this was valid.
[03:32] <james__> Wheelybin: I'm brand new at IRC too, so I'm not sure why my name is bright yellow
[03:33] <Paddy_EIRE> id rather they had a brass band after the luck ive had
[03:33] <ic56> Rambo3: np.  Just didn't want newbies watching the conversation to think this was valid.
[03:33] <ompaul> it is the client
[03:33] <ompaul> Wheelybin,  james__,  it is the client software
[03:33] <frying_fish> Wheelybin: if the file is exectuable, then ./file
[03:33] <miza> if i can detect my rt2500 based card,should i also be able to use it?
[03:33] <frying_fish> if not, the chmod +x file then ./file
[03:33] <Wheelybin> could be my IRC client. I'm using xchat. It's got this nifty highlight feature if anyone starts a sentence with my name, or one of my trigger words.
[03:33] <frying_fish> miza: yes, maybe.
[03:33] <Rambo3> Paddy_EIRE did you actualy type /dev/hda] [1-100]  or did you see it as a descrition , and i think you can safly reboot into ubuntu now
 do i just restart
[03:34] <frying_fish> Wheelybin: yeah, it highlights when you're name is mentioned which is why the whole line is in a different colour so you can see it easier.
[03:34] <Paddy_EIRE> Rambo3 no i did this one sudo mkdir /mnt/tmp && sudo mount /dev/hdc1 /mnt/tmp && sudo ch root /mnt/tmp && sudo grub-install /dev/hdc
[03:34] <miza> frying_fish: i can detect it but i cant see the "act" light in my pcmcia card :/
[03:35] <Rambo3> ok great reboot now
[03:35] <frying_fish> miza then it probably needs to load modules, and then be configured to be the one its using
[03:35] <Wheelybin> Great! Dunno what you mean by ./file though. Is there a BOINC page on ubuntu? I think they updated their client recently for Linux because last week I was able to install it
[03:35] <Paddy_EIRE> nice one
[03:35] <Paddy_EIRE> brb
[03:35] <frying_fish> Wheelybin: you said you had a .sh file yes?
[03:35] <miza> frying_fish: mod2probe?
[03:35] <frying_fish> thats a shell script, so once you have made it executable, navigate to where you have it stored and run it by typing ./filename
[03:35] <Paddy_EIRE> Rambo3 Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
[03:35] <Paddy_EIRE> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[03:36] <timalot> why doenst the changelog hardly show up in dapper package updates anymore? i am getting worried....
[03:36] <s> Hey again.
[03:36] <frying_fish> miza: I don't know, look on the wiki, it might explain more.
[03:36] <Wheelybin> correct.
[03:36] <s> Sorry to be a pain in the ass, could anyone tell me why it isn't working?
[03:36] <Wheelybin> Ahh, cheers!
[03:37] <afief> Can someone help me play those movies: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/elegant/program.html
[03:37] <james__> frying_fish: thanks for the chmod help, that got me into the script, although it says I don't have console ownership, even though I used sudo
[03:37] <nikin_> s: you still didnt answerd about the question what kind of notebbok do you have?
[03:37] <s> A toshiba Satellite P10
[03:38] <Rambo3> Paddy_EIRE that a grub-install error
[03:38] <Paddy_EIRE> Rambo3 i decided to do sudo -i then grub im now on the grub screen in terminal
[03:38] <mof> so what's not working again?
[03:38] <nikin_> ok
[03:38] <Shinzetsu> Whats the best video player around? I use Totem
[03:39] <timalot> mplayer by far
[03:39] <Rambo3> how about exit
[03:39] <Rambo3> no wait
[03:39] <Paddy_EIRE> Rambo3 when i tried to exit the terminal after doingsudo mkdir /mnt/tmp && sudo mount /dev/hdc1 /mnt/tmp && sudo ch root /mnt/tmp && sudo grub-install /dev/hdc
[03:39] <afief> Can someone help me play those movies: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/elegant/program.html
[03:39] <s> mof: was that aimed at me?
[03:39] <Frostyx> I'm trying to give access right equivalent to "Create Files / Write Data" on windows 2000. This right give the user the ability to create a file, but he can not overwrite or delete it. Anyone knows how to do this on Ubuntu?
[03:40] <nikin_> s: can you give me the exact model number?
[03:40] <IAskew> afief, google easy ubuntu and load the codecs
[03:40] <Wheelybin> Woah, I thought the hardest thing I could do on this was installing my 3d card drivers. Turns out boinc is harder. I wish there was a synaptic package for it. I ran the .sh file and it made a BOINC directory, and had a load of files, one called binstall.sh. No, I didn't do it from terminal, I just rightclicked>open>run in terminal. It opened up a terminal window, flashed, then closed.
[03:40] <Rambo3> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/hdc
[03:40] <afief> Iaskew: i have the w32 codecs and mplayer + mozilla mplayer installed
[03:40] <Rambo3> Paddy_EIRE are you un grub> now ?
[03:40] <Paddy_EIRE> no
[03:40] <s> Erm...
[03:41] <IAskew> afief, the movies work fine for me here
[03:41] <IAskew> using RealVideo links
[03:41] <Rambo3> Paddy_EIRE do a sudo chroot /mnt/tmp
[03:41] <Paddy_EIRE> Rambo Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
[03:41] <Paddy_EIRE> Could not find device for /boot/boot: Not found or not a block device.
[03:41] <afief> crashed on me the last time i tried to use real
[03:41] <afief> trying again
[03:41] <timalot> Frostyx: why?
[03:41] <Paddy_EIRE> im now root
[03:41] <james__> afief: I can watch the Realvideo stream from that site, and I got my video codecs from Automatix (the stream isn't very high quality though)
[03:42] <Rambo3> Paddy_EIRE now you are in your installed linux hd
[03:42] <Rambo3> type grub
[03:42] <Paddy_EIRE> nice one
[03:42] <ompaul> james__, please don't suggest automatix to people reason from ubotu in a moment
[03:42] <afief> james__ well i heard automatix and easy ubuntu can mess up the system really bad, is there a way to manually install the stuff?
[03:42] <ompaul> !worksforme
[03:42] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[03:42] <Rambo3> Paddy_EIRE:  find /boot/grub/stage1
[03:43] <james__> afief: I suppose they could, I'm complete n00b
[03:43] <ompaul> james__, it can and has caused lots of issues - followed by reinstalls - linux does not get stability by being treated like windows :)
[03:43] <afief> james__ i see
[03:43] <Frostyx> timalot: To be sure user can't delete fiels they have created
[03:43] <Frostyx> files*
[03:43] <Paddy_EIRE> Rambo3 do i do sudo nano /boot/grub/stage1
[03:44] <Wheelybin> Damn! I can't find VLC on synaptic. Is there a repository I can add to find it?
[03:44] <Rambo3> Paddy_EIRE no
[03:44] <s> I think it's PMR300020EN0
[03:44] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[03:44] <fyrestrtr> does anyone have experience with twinview/dual screen? I have mine setup properly, but one monitor is noticably dimmer than the other.
[03:44] <ompaul> !info vlc
[03:44] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player for all audio and video formats. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 7620 kB, installed size 18808 kB
[03:44] <ompaul> Wheelybin, note that message from ubotu - you need universe
[03:44] <addict3d> hi, i am newbie .. can anyone tell me an application to *view* powerpoint files ?
[03:44] <Rambo3> you just type grub , then find /boot/grub/stage1 , or you can try root(0,1) or root(1,1) test a bit
[03:44] <fyrestrtr> addict3d: double click on them, they'll open in openoffice.
[03:44] <inept_> Question. i am using MEPIS6. i need a never version of krita than is in the reposatories. i tried to upgrade using packages from a never version of ububto and trashed thing miserably. does anyone have any sugestions?
[03:44] <Paddy_EIRE> addict3d openoffice impress
[03:45] <addict3d> OOo is crawling on my sys :-(
[03:45] <paniq> http://en.magenson.de/2006/06/11/ubuntu-dapper-drake-and-wpa-encrypted-wireless/
[03:45] <ompaul> addict3d, you can click on applications office Open office
[03:45] <paniq> above link rocks.
[03:45] <Rambo3> Paddy_EIRE you just type grub , then find /boot/grub/stage1 , or you can try root(0,1) or root(1,1) test a bit
[03:45] <Wheelybin> addict3d. Doesn't openoffice do it? It's installed by default on my system
[03:45] <james__> addict3d: openoffice should do it
[03:45] <Paddy_EIRE> im in the directory looking at it in the terminal
[03:45] <addict3d> Wheelybin, yes it does, but it is too slow .. so i removed it
[03:45] <inept_> newer*
[03:45] <mcphail> addict3d: you could use the MS Powerpoint viewer under WINE
[03:46] <Paddy_EIRE> mcphail would be slower
[03:46] <addict3d> mcphail, oh fine thanks
[03:46] <Wheelybin> That'd probably be slower than using OO though
[03:46] <Rambo3> Paddy_EIRE ok
[03:46] <addict3d> Wheelybin, oh
[03:46] <mcphail> Paddy_EIRE: maybe, maybe not
[03:46] <Paddy_EIRE> mcphail its normally slower anyway man
[03:47] <mcphail> Paddy_EIRE: not slower on my box, but not as reliable as OO.o
[03:47] <Amarilis> hi guys
[03:47] <Paddy_EIRE> mcphail ah ok, cant install wine for reasons i will leave with linux
[03:47] <ic56> addict3d: yes. OpenOffice is heavy.
[03:48] <Wheelybin> Wine is an emulator. I don't like the idea of using it except for legacy applications that the developers are too lazy to port over. Fortunatly the apps I need ported run on a p1 with 16mb ram and a dialup connection. Glad to have a bit more 'oomph' these days!
[03:48] <timalot> Frostyx: you create a file in directory where the user cant write to... but have access to the file
[03:48] <Amarilis> a stupid question: what are the minimum system requirements fo ubuntu dapper?
[03:48] <Paddy_EIRE> Rambo3 what should i do with this file then
[03:48] <Rambo3> Paddy_EIRE what does :  sudo grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/hdc
[03:48] <mcphail> Wheelybin: dont you mean _not_ an emulator? :)
[03:48] <Rambo3> say
[03:48] <ompaul> Amarilis, better to say what you have - and then we can say no or yes
[03:49] <james__> How do you get into the console? (Dapper)
[03:49] <miza> how do i use the rt2500 drivers that i found from apt?
[03:49] <acojlo> my partitions are not in exact order. Is this problem for the system and how it can be changed?
 root@ubuntu:/boot/grub# sudo grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/hdc
[03:49] <Paddy_EIRE> sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()
[03:49] <Wheelybin> mcphail. I thought wine was WINdoze Emulator?
[03:49] <gnomefreak> james__: application>accessories>terminal
[03:50] <ompaul> james__, two ways: in the gui, Applicaitons Accessories Terminal, or Ctrl+Alt+F1-6  ctrl alt F7 brings you back to the gui
[03:50] <mcphail> Wheelybin: "WINE is not an emulator" apparently
[03:50] <Wheelybin> Yeah, and I'm not a linux noob.
[03:50] <s> _kinin?
[03:50] <s> nikin?
[03:50] <james__> ompaul: thanks very much, that's what I was looking for
[03:50] <miza> how do i use the rt2500 drivers that i found from apt?
[03:50] <nikin_> s: yup
[03:50] <ompaul> james__, your welcome
[03:50] <nikin_> i have red some things
[03:50] <Rambo3> Paddy_EIRE i have no idea , type: grub
[03:50] <s> Oh?
[03:50] <timalot> nice
[03:51] <nikin_> it is worth to try to install and udate the hings
[03:51] <s> update the what?
[03:51] <nikin_> that slowed the problem by some ppl
[03:51] <s> Eh?
[03:51] <nikin_> update everything
[03:51] <s> Oh, the packages?
[03:51] <s> Whatever they are. LOL
[03:51] <nikin_> yup
[03:51] <Wheelybin> I enjoy being new to computer's again. It's fun to relearn stuff.
[03:51] <s> That solved it
[03:51] <s> ?
[03:51] <Paddy_EIRE> Rambo3 i think i might give up im loosing too much work over something that was billed better than windows im really starting to doubt it
[03:51] <ompaul> !offtopic
[03:51] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:52] <timalot> !ontopic
[03:52] <yodaz> hi all
[03:52] <KenSentMe> I'm configuring my webserver. Can someone tell me what they see if you go to http://mail.vandenieuwenhof.com
[03:52] <nikin_> s: yup, by a suse user. on the notebook list ppl have written that they didnt had this problem with ubuntu
[03:53] <james__> How can I find out what graphics driver I'm currently using?
[03:53] <yodaz> I have some problem with qemu, I have set up an os, it works perfectly, but I can not have the network
[03:53] <acojlo> my /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda3 (not in exact order) end and begin at same 2037 cylinder. Can this cause a problems?
[03:53] <s> So I need to use suse?
[03:53] <yodaz> I have the following line in my log : Unknown InputIN=tap0 OUT= MAC=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:52:54:00:12:34:56:08:00 SRC=192.168.1.2 DST=192.168.1.255 LEN=78 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=128 ID=4608 PROTO=UDP SPT=137 DPT=137 LEN=58
[03:53] <acojlo> yodaz, do you use quemu. I'm interested
[03:53] <Wheelybin> !agp
[03:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about agp - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:53] <yodaz> but I don't know how to set up my firewall
[03:53] <Wheelybin> !ls
[03:53] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[03:53] <nikin_> KenSent: i see some kind of a login screen with a picture squirel mail
[03:54] <Amarilis> KenSentMe> squirrelmail
[03:54] <KenSentMe> Amarilis: thanks, that's what i wanted to hear
[03:54] <nikin_> s: i dont say that
[03:54] <ompaul> !msgthebot
[03:54] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[03:54] <timalot> yodaz: the /etc/qemu-ifup script is run to bring up the network on the host side
[03:54] <s> oh right. so if I install and then update i should be OK?
[03:55] <nikin_> i say, try to install ubuntu, do a full update and see, if it does not work u should try Fedora Core, coz Suse isnt free AFAIK
[03:55] <Paddy_EIRE> is there anyone here that is Actually Capable of Fixing GRUB
[03:55] <hayden> how can i create a samba share so that everyone has rwx access to it and you dont need a user/pass to connect to it?
[03:55] <s> AFAIK?
[03:55] <qwerty2k> OpenSuse is free
[03:55] <yodaz> timalot: I have put an ifconfig command in this file, and it set up my tap0 device
[03:55] <nikin_> As Far As I Know
[03:55] <s> Ah right. Thanks.
[03:55] <yodaz> but I think the fw blocks all trafic
[03:55] <Paddy_EIRE> Linux better than Windows i wonder how they work that one out
[03:55] <Alex> hi. what is the name of the executable to setup the network?
[03:55] <ic56> acojlo: simply having sda[13]  being the same isn't a problem.  However, if you try to use them simultaneously, you will end up with data corruption.
[03:55] <void^> hayden: use security = share
[03:56] <s> Well I'll have a go with ubuntu then.
[03:56] <qwerty2k> ubuntu is better imo than fedora and suse
[03:56] <s> Hopefully I'll be able to come back and talk to you all again later.
[03:56] <Alex> or even better the name of the package
[03:56] <timalot> yodaz: ok hold ill check my qemu command line
[03:56] <qwerty2k> :)
[03:56] <Frostyx> timalot: It is the user who create the files and they put it on the server, so they must have a way to write this file once. But when it is there, they can no longer edit it or delete, they must create another version of the file. E.g. file1.01.xml and file1.02.xml.
[03:56] <james__> Anyone know how I can find out my current graphics driver?
[03:56] <s> If not, thanks for all your help and I've gone back to windows. LOL
[03:56] <yodaz> timalot: thx
[03:56] <nikin_> s: lets hope :D GLHF and C ya
[03:56] <Paddy_EIRE> s I think i might do the same and go back to windows
[03:57] <acojlo> ic56, I've pasted you table in private channel.
[03:57] <acojlo> give an opinion
[03:57] <qwerty2k> Paddy_EIRE, whys that then?
[03:57] <trippen> Hello im a first time linux user i have just installed dapper and i need help installing nvidia drivers i am 1000 percent clueless can someone help me please
[03:57] <qwerty2k> !nvidia
[03:57] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:57] <trippen> none of that makes sence to me ubotu
[03:58] <hayden> void^, but that only gives anonymous access not rwx access to a share
[03:58] <timalot> yodaz: qemu -net tap -net nic /dev/sda (is the relevant part)
[03:58] <ic56> acojlo: yes. you have an overlapping sector.  This allows one filesystem to overwrite the other (just for that 1 sector).
[03:58] <mcphail> trippen: just follow the link
[03:58] <qwerty2k> trippen, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia clearly states how to install them
[03:58] <mopflite> it's worth noting though that, unless one intends to use 3D graphics acceleration, installing the ati/nvidia drivers is entirely unnecessary
[03:58] <Paddy_EIRE> qwerty2k in windows the longest a problem has brought my system down has been much less than a day or 2 and thats bad in linux since june
[03:58] <timalot> yodaz: i am not using the virtual firewall thing... i just have a point to point link between qemu and the host ....
[03:59] <acojlo> ic56, can I shrink the sda1 to end at 2036 (one sector before)?
[03:59] <Paddy_EIRE> qwerty2k seriously Productivity is not among the Ubuntu Philosophy
[03:59] <yodaz> timalot: and what sort of link it is ?
[04:00] <yodaz> tun/tap or bridge ?
[04:00] <qwerty2k> Paddy_EIRE, well my ubuntu system has never broke and im very productive in using it
[04:00] <nikin> querty: i agree about the distros, but Red Hat based distros i better supported with drivers
[04:00] <mopflite> Paddy_EIRE: it depends what one uses one's computer for, really
[04:00] <wasabi> Paddy_EIRE: State your problem.
[04:00] <timalot> Frostyx: point to point over the tap interface
[04:00] <void^> hayden: use guest account = some_user_with_access_rights_you_want, and writable = yes and public = yes for the share. consider reading some samba howto.
[04:00] <Zyfo> Can I remove the titlebar in applications (gaim)? If so, where and how?
[04:00] <nikin> -i + are
[04:00] <ic56> acojlo: however, the 1st sector on PCs is usually not consumed by the filesystem but by things like boot loaders.  So day-to-day activity might cause no harm if you have no boot loader installed in sda3
[04:00] <Paddy_EIRE> qwerty2k have u a dual boot system
[04:00] <timalot> yodaz: point to point over the tap interface
[04:00] <qwerty2k> Paddy_EIRE, nope
[04:00] <wasabi> Paddy_EIRE: I do.
[04:00] <Canopus> that's a good question Zyfo
[04:00] <timalot> Frostyx: what program do they use to put the files on the server?
[04:00] <Zyfo> Canopus, thank you! ;p
[04:01] <Canopus> do tell me if you get the answer :)
[04:01] <Zyfo> Canopus, I will
[04:01] <Paddy_EIRE> qwerty2k and then got rid of a faulty drive and tried to restore the bootloader
[04:01] <jimmy89> hey
[04:01] <ic56> acojlo: yes, you should be able to shrink it.  Best make a backup of the filesystem's contents before you start messing with it though.  There's always risk.
[04:01] <wasabi> Paddy_EIRE: Restoring the boot loader is easy. Simply type "grub-install".
[04:01] <qwerty2k> there is a guide to restoring grub in ubuntu/...
[04:01] <Paddy_EIRE> qwerty2k then ubuntu is Stictly not recommended for a home user
[04:01] <wasabi> Paddy_EIRE: Guess you're not exactly listening to me.
[04:02] <yodaz> timalot: hu I have found the problem
[04:02] <jimmy89> does anyone know why my when i am on my wireless, downloads stop and start from internet, however ftp traffic locally will download without pauses, and while ftp is going , web traffic works without pauses
[04:02] <qwerty2k> Paddy_EIRE, huh? i dont get what your gripes with ubuntu are? you havent given any good reasons why its not working well for you?
[04:02] <yodaz> it was samba which refuse the login
[04:02] <yodaz> timalot: thx
[04:02] <Paddy_EIRE> wasabi mate i aint been hiding in a box i looked up every thing thats why im here
[04:02] <wasabi> Paddy_EIRE: AGain, state your problem
[04:02] <len> Hi, I got a philips audio set, and my Ubuntu recoginezes it as sound device, but it doesnt play any sound. Any1 know how to solve this problem (plz plz plz)
[04:03] <Canopus> len: have you tried changing your default sound device to your philips audio set?
[04:04] <len> Canopus: yes, but still doesnt work. I've made some resarch on google and I saw few guys with same problem
[04:04] <timalot> ok my .... changelog free ubuntu update is done.... i guess they know whats best for me .....
[04:04] <Paddy_EIRE> qwerty2k e.g. in windows if i needed to restore the bootloader i would do fixmbr in linux i want to do similar simple operation Actually in reality the contents of ur local library and a linux cert is needed
[04:04] <Canopus> len: what application are you trying to run ... for listening to sound?
[04:04] <Frostyx> timalot: Right now they are juste drag and dropping the files from a widnows xp workstaion to a share on a windows 2000 pro sevrer. But I need to do the same thing on a linux sevrer
[04:05] <len> Canopus: this audio set is a USB sound system
[04:05] <wasabi> Paddy_EIRE: What you just said makes very little sense.
[04:05] <wasabi> Paddy_EIRE: A cert?
[04:05] <jimmy89> anyone know the cause of wireless traffic dropping in and out (not related to reception at all, purely an ubuntu issue )
[04:05] <hussam> will dapper get an update to openoffice 2.0.3? I found this. http://tinyurl.com/jlawb
[04:05] <len> Canopus: I dont really know which is it. I'm new to linux, but I belive is alsa
[04:05] <Canopus> len: i thought so too and am using plantronics just fine
[04:05] <qwerty2k> Paddy_EIRE, grub-install /dev/hda
[04:05] <qwerty2k> (assuming hda is where its installed)
[04:06] <Canopus> len: nah this is not what i meant
[04:06] <len> Canopus: as I said, I'm very new to ubuntu
[04:06] <Canopus> len: how do you try to listen to sound? By using xmms or something?
[04:06] <len> Canopus: I'm still learinign
[04:06] <Canopus> len: so am i :)
[04:06] <Paddy_EIRE> Ive been stating my problem/s with ubuntu on this channel for over a month now and ZERO broken guides that are way too much for a normal home user
[04:07] <wasabi> Paddy,Would you like to solve your problem and go on with your life, or continue complaining?
[04:07] <len> Canopus: totem gxine I think
[04:07] <qwerty2k> paddy, you've been told twice now how to fix your bootloader for linux...
[04:07] <Canopus> Paddy_EIRE: only solution for you is go back to windows
[04:07] <nikin> Paddy_EIR: diy you look on the ubuntu forums?
[04:07] <Paddy_EIRE> i mean if i ran a business on this i would be bankruped
[04:07] <qwerty2k> how so?
[04:07] <Paddy_EIRE> nikin Oh yes
[04:07] <wasabi> So, you just wnat to complain.
[04:07] <scena> I'm having a problem with Unix lpd prints to an Ubuntu print server. Could someone help?
[04:07] <wasabi> Okay. Thanks for your time!
[04:07] <wasabi> I'm going.
[04:07] <Canopus> lol
[04:07] <nikin> there ar 3 methods.. none of the worked?
[04:07] <qwerty2k> it takes 2 seconds to google/look on forums and you will generally find a solution within a few minutes
[04:08] <Paddy_EIRE> then why am i here
[04:08] <nikin> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24113
[04:08] <void^> Paddy_EIRE: quality of free support usually depends on your ability to describe the problem
[04:08] <Paddy_EIRE> seen already dont work for me
[04:08] <Canopus> len: ok .... what version of ubuntu are you using?
[04:08] <nikin> Paddy: none of the 3 methids?
[04:08] <len> Canopus: dapper
[04:09] <Paddy_EIRE> i want to boot from my ubuntu drive coy of my work and remove ubuntu
[04:09] <adminx> Hello, when trying to take online courses with Net-g, I cannot hear sound. I beleive Net-g uses Flash or Shockwave. Can anyone give assistance? Thanks
[04:09] <james__> adminx: I have the same prob with youtube
[04:09] <fyrestrtr> adminx: shockwave is going to be a problem, but flash is easily fixed. Can you find out what exactly it uses?
[04:09] <Canopus> len: go to System -> Preferences -> Sound and tell me what you see under "Default sound card:"
[04:09] <Paddy_EIRE> adminx google easyubuntu
[04:10] <qwerty2k> dont lsiten to paddy
[04:10] <qwerty2k> that wont fix your sound
[04:10] <mcphail> Paddy_EIRE: please type slower to avoid typos. It is difficult to work out what you mean.
[04:10] <len> Canopus: Just now I changed to Philips Audio Set
[04:10] <len> Canopus: but not working
[04:10] <SLuG> hello
[04:10] <adminx> Intel ICH6 , have tried Easyubuntu
[04:11] <jimmy89> any idea why wireless would work fine if i am copying something from a local computer and downloading, but if i am just downloading it cuts in and out?
[04:11] <Canopus> len: take out your usb headset and plug it back in ... does a pop-up appear stating a new sound device has been detected?
[04:11] <Canopus> jimmy89: sounds like something to do with your service
[04:11] <qwerty2k> adminx, is it flash, if it is flash follow this...http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204022&highlight=flash+sound+firefox
[04:11] <jimmy89> its not isp related
[04:11] <len> yeah
[04:11] <qwerty2k> that *should* fix it
[04:11] <len> Canopus: Yeah
[04:11] <jimmy89> its only with ubuntu, and only on wireless
[04:12] <SLuG> I am currently on a windows computer, but have a question about ubuntu. my cousin needs a computer and i have a spare one. I am going to put ubuntu on it, but she needs to connect to AOL. I've read about AOL Dialer, but I was wondering if that was included in the ubuntu repository
[04:12] <fyrestrtr> jimmy89: are you saying that if you are using your connection at capacity, it doesn't drop, but when its not used at a certain percentage, it starts dropping?
[04:12] <Canopus> jimmy89: sorry, can't say more
[04:12] <jimmy89> fyrestrtr: Yes, it seems that way
[04:12] <Canopus> len: looks like totem needs some tuning
[04:12] <trippen> after reading the link that was provided to me and following the instructions i received this error... Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[04:12] <trippen> This script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this
[04:12] <trippen> not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following
[04:12] <trippen> command:
[04:12] <trippen> md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum
[04:12] <trippen> otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section
[04:12] <trippen> from nv to nvidia.
[04:13] <jimmy89> fyrestrtr: its strange, if i am downloading like now, it is dropping in and out, but if while downloading i copied a file from a local server then it wouldnt drop in and out
[04:13] <fyrestrtr> trippen: do the part after 'otherwise...'
[04:13] <len> Canopus: I try to turn the system off then turn it on
[04:13] <trippen> so that is normal i can proceed to the restart then
[04:13] <len> Canopus: o know the linux dont reconginzes it anymore
[04:13] <len> Canopus: onow the linux dont reconginzes it anymore
[04:13] <len> Canopus: now the linux dont reconginzes it anymore*
[04:14] <fyrestrtr> jimmy89: wow, that is strange. Maybe you should google your wireless adapter? I don't have such problems on my laptop.
[04:14] <patrick_king> !avi
[04:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:14] <nikin> Paddy: ???
[04:14] <jimmy89> fyrestrtr: it is a really strange issue
[04:14] <Canopus> jimmy89: same case here. its working fine with me too.
[04:14] <Paddy_EIRE> Ok here it goes again, I had 1 windows drive 80gig (primary Channel) 1 ubuntu drive (secondary channel), the windows drive is dead (i have backed up) what i wanted was to just use this machine with the Ubuntu drive Which i put on primary jumpered for master so i needed to fix or install grub/lilo whatever is best
[04:14] <trippen> fyrestrtr: . so that is normal i can proceed to the restart of X
[04:15] <fyrestrtr> trippen: well, did you make the change as it stated?
[04:15] <nikin> Paddy: i have maybe a soulution
[04:15] <nikin> are you on liveCD now?
[04:15] <jimmy89> fyrestrtr: i know, it should, and does say at school which is a 802.11g network, but at home on a 802.11b seems to be interesting
[04:15] <fyrestrtr> jimmy89: oooh, that could be it I think.
[04:15] <Paddy_EIRE> nikin yep thats all i can use at the mo
[04:15] <nikin> ok
[04:15] <jimmy89> fyrestrtr: some setting need to changed?
[04:15] <len> Canopus: I read in some thread that usbaudio doenst work with alsa
[04:16] <trippen> fyrestrtr:  i followed the directions.. on the page it does not say that i will get an error after typing  sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[04:16] <trippen> so i have not dont the fineal step
[04:16] <Canopus> len: oh it does. my plantronics headset is working fine
[04:16] <nikin> Paddy: then open a terminal and type sudo grub
[04:16] <Frostyx> !acl
[04:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about acl - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:16] <fyrestrtr> trippen: don't worry about that part, just open up /etc/X11/xorg.conf -- and then change "nv" to "nvidia", save the file, and restart X
[04:16] <len> Canopus: So i got bad luck?
[04:16] <Canopus> len: but i can't say for philips. but if it is being detected ... logically there should be no problem
[04:16] <trippen> um.. i dont know what that is or how to do it..
 ok
[04:17] <nikin> Paddy: now you got a grub console
[04:17] <trippen> first time user.. first time start up :)
[04:17] <Canopus> len: what other sound player you got installed?
[04:17] <fyrestrtr> trippen: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf <-- type that at a console
 yes
[04:17] <nikin> now type: find /boot/grub/stage1
[04:17] <len> Canopus: Well, my onboard sound device
[04:17] <acojlo> anyway to run allready installed xp on a partition inside linux?
[04:17] <kenkku> will it be a pain in the backside to install ATI drivers on the 64-bit ubuntu(newest version, 6.06)?
[04:17] <trippen> okay and then
[04:17] <Canopus> len: i meant in terms of software
[04:17] <nikin> now that has written out something... what is that?
[04:17] <fyrestrtr> trippen: hit alt+f2 -- in the window that pops up, type gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf -- and hit Run
[04:18] <bXi> where can i configure my key bindings in kubuntu ?
[04:18] <Canopus> len: like xmms or mplayer???
[04:18] <len> Canopus: gxine player
[04:18] <len> and mplayer
[04:18] <Paddy_EIRE> kenkku itl be a pain anyhow just go for it u might hit it lucky
[04:18] <fyrestrtr> trippen: when the file is open, scroll down to where you see Section "Device"
[04:18] <nikin> Paddy: ???
[04:18] <Canopus> len: ok. what kind file do you want to play?
[04:18] <SLuG> does anyone know if "aol dialer" is available for ubuntu or if i have to build it myself?
[04:19] <fyrestrtr> trippen: below that, you'll see Driver "nv" -- change nv to nvidia, so it reads Driver "nvidia"
 (hd0,0)
[04:19] <trippen> ok one sec
[04:19] <nikin> Paddy: ok
[04:19] <scena> has anyone had problems printing to HP LasetJet printers via LPD?
[04:19] <zzyber> Hi, does someone have a solution to convert outlook data to evolution, this i think is one of Ubuntus really big problems. I hope there is a solution to it
[04:19] <qwerty2k> SLuG, im currently looking for you
[04:19] <Canopus> len: one good way to check sound is to use sound recorder. you got microphone?
[04:19] <SLuG> qwerty2k: thank you
[04:19] <len> well, all of them. Even Linux Event sounds, mp3, movies
[04:19] <nikin> now type: root (hd0,0)
[04:19] <fyrestrtr> trippen: then save the file, close everything, and hit ctrl+alt+backspace to restart your X server.
[04:19] <kenkku> Paddy_EIRE: don't feel that much going for it atm, installed fedora core 5 earlier today, the installer had some kind of bug and it didn't show fully, once I got it installed, it used only a 800x400 resolution.. then I removed some important packages and broke X..:P
[04:20] <len> Canopus: well, all of them. Even Linux Event sounds, mp3, movies
[04:20] <Canopus> zzyber: you'll have to wait like all of us. but there is a solution using thunderbird. google it up
[04:20] <kenkku> quite good for one day
[04:20] <len> Canopus: Yeah I got a mic
[04:20] <Paddy_EIRE> kenkku sounds like a lot of fun
[04:20] <Canopus> len: use the sound recorder to test  recording and its playback
[04:20] <Paddy_EIRE> kenkku i dont think that theyl fix drivers for older cards
[04:20] <len> Canopus: I'll try
[04:20] <kenkku> Paddy_EIRE: is radeon x800xl considered old? ;)
[04:20] <nikin> now type: setup (hd0,0)
[04:20] <zzyber> Canopus: thanks, i will take a look. I suppose i install thunderbird, import pst file to that client and export it again to evolution
[04:20] <qwerty2k> SLuG, so far only found this howto: http://yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialAOL.html
[04:21] <Paddy_EIRE> mine still doesnt even display screensaver properly
[04:21] <Canopus> zzyber: yes
[04:21] <kenkku> I wouldn't call my card *that* old :P
[04:21] <nikin> Paddy: did you type the 2 commandS?
 Error 12: Invalid device requested
[04:21] <fyrestrtr> Paddy_EIRE: did you disconnect the power to your dead drive?
[04:22] <kenkku> btw, the wiki doesn't seem to work
 got it missed the first one sorry
[04:22] <len> Canopus: where is the system log?
[04:22] <nikin> then type setup (hd0)
[04:22] <Paddy_EIRE> fyrestrtr yeah its sitting unplugged in there
[04:22] <Canopus> len: why do you ask?
[04:22] <Paddy_EIRE> fyrestrtr dont know why i havent taken it out
[04:23] <Paddy_EIRE> lol
[04:23] <[Wiebel] > humz
[04:23] <len> Canopus: I want to see what it says when it detects my sound
[04:23] <[Wiebel] > I just installed kde on ubuntu
[04:23] <[Wiebel] > in gnome my multimedia shortkeys work
[04:23] <trippen> fyrestrtr:  Thank you.. it worked perfectly..
[04:23] <[Wiebel] > in kde not
[04:23] <SLuG> qwerty2k
[04:23] <[Wiebel] > is there a way to get them working?
[04:23] <nikin> Paddy: root (hd0,0)   then  setup (hd0)
[04:23] <Canopus> len: did u record and playback? and did it work?
[04:23] <fyrestrtr> trippen: good :) welcome to ubuntu.
 there is a lot of info although it looks to have done what u said
[04:23] <fyrestrtr> nikin: its the other way around, setup, then root.
[04:23] <Canopus> fyrestrtr: correction ... welcome to kubuntu :)
[04:23] <fyrestrtr> I think.
[04:24] <trippen> now let me ask this.. i have a sound card that used optical digital out.. how can i enable that
[04:24] <qwerty2k> SLuG, also a tool called PengAOL is meant to work
[04:24] <len> Canopus: After I re-plug my sound system it stop detecting
[04:24] <nikin> Fyre: nope its so
[04:24] <fyrestrtr> hrmm
 there is a few error messages in there though
[04:24] <Canopus> len: what do you mean by re-plug?
[04:24] <SeicherlBoB> hi there! can i use midnight commander on ubuntu dapper (server install)? apt won't find it. can i use debian-sources to get it then?
[04:24] <SLuG> qwerty, how is linspire's "AOL Dialer"?
[04:24] <fyrestrtr> Paddy_EIRE: to find out what your devices are according to grub, root (hd0,<tab>
[04:24] <fyrestrtr> !info mc
[04:24] <ubotu> mc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 2073 kB, installed size 5952 kB
[04:24] <SLuG> qwerty2k, how is linspire's "AOL Dialer"?
[04:25] <len> Canopus: I unpluged my usb and then pluged again
[04:25] <fyrestrtr> SeicherlBoB: enable universe and then try it.
[04:25] <nikin> Paddy: type: quit, and try toreboot
[04:25] <qwerty2k> SLuG, ive not used it, but its supposedly 1 click install and run type thing, so its meant to work very well
[04:25] <Canopus> len: and no pop-ups
[04:25] <SeicherlBoB> fyrestrtr: thanks!
[04:25] <len> Canopus: then the linux stopped recoginzes my Philips sound system
[04:25] <fyrestrtr> SeicherlBoB: enable multiverse too while you are at it.
[04:25] <fyrestrtr> SeicherlBoB: and don't forget to apt-get update
[04:25] <Canopus> len: have you got another usb port?
[04:26] <len> yeah
[04:26] <len> Canopus: Yeah, I just did that now
[04:26] <SLuG> qwerty2k: is there a install package for ubuntu?
[04:26] <SeicherlBoB> fyrestrtr: yeah. got MC. thanks!
[04:26] <threat> SLuG, ubuntu-desktop?
[04:26] <qwerty2k> not that im aware of, but i think you can download and compile it from somewhere although im not too sure as ive never dealt with aol on linux
[04:26] <Canopus> len: try plugging it in there and meanwhile install usbview. its a small utility shows you list of devices attqached to your usb (as the name suggests). just apt-get
[04:26] <qwerty2k> threat, he means for the aol dialer
[04:27] <SLuG> threat, i mean an installer for "AOL Dialer" for ubuntu
[04:28] <threat> wtf
[04:28] <threat> why would you even consider installing or connecting to anything that has AOL in its name?
[04:28] <SLuG> threat, it's for my cousin
[04:29] <SLuG> she's poor and out of her parents house. i'm giving her a computer. her parents use aol and she has a screen name. so to her, it's free internet
[04:30] <shawnr_> has anyone seen the script "faster-dapper.sh" floating around the net? I was wondering how safe it is. specifically the hdparm settings it sets.
[04:30] <threat> SLuG, :S
[04:30] <threat> shawnr_, hdparm is a good way to speed things up, but you need to make sure it isn't setting options that do not apply to your setup
[04:30] <threat> or use dangerous / experimental options like -X
[04:31] <len> Canopus: I just installed the usbview
[04:31] <Canopus> len: check out what it says after plugging in your usb device. does it give a description of your headset?
[04:31] <nikin> paddy?
[04:31] <Tutter> hm
[04:32] <len> Canopus: I'll restart my computer, 1 sec
[04:32] <shawnr_> threat, how can i figure that out? it also uses preload & prelink which i read can be dangerous as well
[04:32] <Tutter> any decent photo editing sw for ubuntu out there?
[04:32] <Canopus> len: you don't need to
[04:32] <threat> shachaf_, never heard of that
[04:32] <nikin> Tuuter: Gimp?
[04:32] <fyrestrtr> Tutter: other than the gimp?
[04:32] <Canopus> len: why you keep restarting your pc. this is linux man
[04:32] <threat> shawnr_, even
[04:32] <threat> lol
[04:32] <Bassy> I'm running xubuntu, and i'm wandering how to add all of the server stuff now? (ie. can i apt-get install "lamp")??
[04:32] <nikin> !gimp
[04:32] <ubotu> An advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[04:32] <fyrestrtr> !lamp > Bassy
[04:32] <SLuG> qwerty2k, threat, thanks you i'll try aol dialer, and if that doesn't work, peng. if that doesn't... then i'll have to try and find another way to give my cousin free internet
[04:33] <threat> shawnr_, umm well try it, and if your computer stalls or shits bricks then perhaps you should go through it :)
[04:33] <qwerty2k> SLuG, no problem,. hope it all works out :)
[04:33] <zim_> hi all doing a server install of dapper what is the diff between "install to hard disk" and "install a lamp server" what is the equiv to a breezy server install (minimal)
[04:33] <len> Canopus: Just to c if it reconginzes my Sound system again
[04:33] <frogzoo> this is what I use, none of these are default, but at the same time, i think they're pretty sane: mult_sect_io = 16  dma = on io32_support = 1 write_cache = 1 transfer_mode = udma5 lookahead = on readahead = 8
[04:33] <fyrestrtr> zim_: "install to hard disk"
[04:33] <threat> SLuG, well does your cousin live next to a neighbour who doesn't have encryption enabled on their wireless Internet router?
[04:33] <zim_> ty
[04:33] <zim_> what is a lamp server
[04:33] <fyrestrtr> !lamp > zim_
[04:34] <Canopus> len: plug it in and it will recognize ... if it doesn't then reassembling your pc won't help either
[04:34] <Tutter> *smack-self* yes.. of course gimp will do
[04:34] <SLuG> i doubt it... but i'll check with my laptop when i go to set it up...
[04:34] <threat> SLuG, :)
[04:34] <frogzoo> shawnr_: prelinking wine will break it
[04:34] <threat> SLuG, or slap a cat5 cable over your neighbours fence
[04:34] <shawnr_> threat, frogzoo, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19929
[04:34] <Canopus> be right back
[04:35] <zim_> ty
[04:35] <fyrestrtr> SLuG: penggy should work for you, afaik.
[04:35] <len> Canopus: nothing happens when i use usbview too
[04:35] <zim_> it is a lamp server i want just i dont need X
[04:36] <SLuG> fyrestrtr thanks, how easy is it to install though?
[04:36] <[Wiebel] > hmz
[04:36] <[Wiebel] > how can I configure kmilo?
[04:36] <fyrestrtr> SLuG: apt-get install penggy
[04:36] <Canopus> len: on the left side do you see philips somewhere?
[04:36] <len> nope
[04:37] <SLuG> oh, nice...
[04:37] <bipolar> Is anyone using the compiz packages from compiz.net on dapper?
[04:37] <len> I'm pluggin my usb driver and c what happens
[04:37] <SLuG> fyrestrtr maybe i'll try that first then
[04:37] <Canopus> len: you mean you had not plugged in your usb before?
[04:37] <len> Canopus: I mean, my mp3 player
[04:37] <mcphail> bipolar: i'm using a non-standard repo, but don't know if it is pulled from there
[04:38] <len> Canopus: and c if linux recoginzes it
[04:38] <len> Canopus: but it dont
[04:38] <_ayan_> hi
[04:38] <shawnr_> frogzoo, how can i find out if shit would be safe form my system? "sudo /sbin/hdparm -u1 -m16 -c1 -A1 -a64 -d1 -K1 $INSTALLED_DRIVE > /dev/null"
[04:38] <_ayan_> i need help about installing "libtunepimp3-mp3"
[04:38] <Canopus> len: more or less your usb ports seem to be having problems. do you see a usb list when you view in usbview
[04:38] <bipolar> mcphail: I'm having trouble getting compiz to use the settings in gconf. For instance the number of viewports. are you having any trouble like that?
[04:39] <len> Canopus: I dont think it's my usb port with problem
[04:39] <SLuG> fyrestrtr how easy is penggy to use? does it have some kind og gui?
[04:39] <mcphail> bipolar: no, but iirc there was something i had to do to update gconf a while back
[04:39] <len> Canopus: but my linux because they work pretty well on windows
[04:39] <qwerty2k> hey, can anyone tell me what packages i need to be able to compile stuff (also, about compiling wine from source, but with a patch)
[04:39] <mcphail> bipolar: unfortunately, i'm not using gui just now so can't check
[04:40] <bipolar> mcphail: ok. if you get a chance, please let me know.
[04:40] <len> let me restar gnome
[04:40] <len> Canopus: i'll restart gonme. maybe it will fix it
[04:40] <mcphail> bipolar: i'll see what i can find out. In the meantime, you could try the repo i'm using??
[04:40] <_ayan_> anybody here have a working musicbrainz - amarok ?
[04:40] <bipolar> mcphail: what repo is that?
[04:41] <SeicherlBoB> can anybody tell me, why my "make" says it cant create executables?
[04:41] <_ayan_> (05:40:49 PM) ayan: anybody here have a working musicbrainz - amarok ?
[04:41] <frogzoo> shawnr_: I'd leave the -K out - the idea of saving hard drive settings strikes me as ill advised
[04:42] <mcphail> bipolar: deb http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz dapper main
[04:42] <Bassy> to install packages on xubuntu, is it in the terminal, type apt get or sudo apt get?
[04:42] <len> Canopus: Yeah, now it working
[04:42] <fyrestrtr> !b-e > qwerty2k
[04:42] <bipolar> mcphail: ok. thats the mirror for the compiz.net packages. same ones I have. :)
[04:42] <len> Canopus:  I'll turn my usbadio on
[04:42] <qwerty2k> ty fyrestrtr
[04:43] <len> Canopus: it's showing on usb viewer
[04:43] <mcphail> bipolar: :) - There certainly was something i had to do (maybe it was to install a "gconf" module in compiz??)
[04:43] <bipolar> mcphail: let me check....
[04:44] <orbin> !apt-get > Bassy
[04:44] <bipolar> mcphail: wow... that might be it. It's installed, but not loaded.
[04:44] <qwerty2k> fyrestrtr, it doesnt say anything about compiling when i want to use a patch against the source code
[04:45] <shawnr_> frogzoo, lol im afraid im gonna screw up my hd
[04:45] <mcphail> bipolar: give it a try
[04:45] <fyrestrtr> qwerty2k: because patching is not the same as compiling.
[04:45] <bipolar> mcphail: indeed. that was it. thanks! :D
[04:45] <mcphail> bipolar: excellent :)
[04:46] <qwerty2k> fyrestrtr, well do you know how i can go about patching the source before compiling ;)
[04:46] <bipolar> mcphail: very excellent. I was missing a lot of functionality.
[04:46] <fyrestrtr> xgl + dual screens = oohs and aaahs from colleagues
[04:46] <Canopus> len: try playing a file on mplayer
[04:46] <fyrestrtr> qwerty2k: patching what?
[04:46] <len> Canopus: I tried and nothing
[04:46] <mcphail> bipolar: now you'll have to put up with your keybindings being messed up by the developers every couple of days when they release a new version....
[04:46] <qwerty2k> fyrestrtr, i want to compile wine, however this is a patch for a specific problem in a game i use that  iwant to apply before compiling
[04:47] <frogzoo> shawnr_: unfortunately, there's no guarantees with this stuff, however, apart from the -K setting, it's a pretty standard tweak
[04:47] <qwerty2k> *there is
[04:47] <bipolar> fyrestrtr: hehe... the cube makes all the windows slackers around here druel
[04:47] <Canopus> len: volume is all up?
[04:47] <len> Canopus: U bet :P
[04:47] <mlehrer> is there a way to save my window settings when i log out of ubuntu?  in the older version there was a checkbox for that so i don't have to re-locate all of my program windows every time i log in
[04:47] <shawnr_> frogzoo, k thanks. did you take a look at that pastebin i sent you?
[04:48] <Canopus> len: well have reached my limits here
[04:48] <Canopus> len: someone else is more helpful
[04:48] <fyrestrtr> qwerty2k: cd /wherever/the/wine/source/is -- then cp blahblahblah.diff `pwd` -- then patch -p1 blahblahblah.diff
[04:48] <frogzoo> shawnr_: yep - dunno if I'd be happy to run that on my box tbh, tbh - pretty balsy to post that to the net - guy's gonna get heat if it messes up
[04:48] <len> Canopus: well, thx anyway. I'm accesing philips' page
[04:48] <fyrestrtr> qwerty2k: that's patch -p1 < blahblahblah.diff
[04:48] <qwerty2k> right :S
[04:49] <qwerty2k> i will attempt ;)
[04:49] <len> Canopus: but I belive I need to have musicmatch to make it work
[04:49] <Canopus> len: best of luck
[04:49] <shawnr_> fogzoo, well its seems that this is ver .4 and its all over if you do a goodle search for "speed up ubuntu"
[04:49] <len> Canopus: in my windows only worked after I installed musicmatch
[04:50] <fyrestrtr> qwerty2k: basic steps 1. extract the source code 2. cd into the top directory of the source code -- for wine, its usually wine-0.version.number 3. copy the patch diff file to this directory 4. type patch -p1 < nameoffile.diff 5. ./configure and etc..
[04:50] <shawnr_> frogzoo, ok so maybe i will pick and choose. but you say the hdparm settings a safe just wouldn't add the -K1 option right?
[04:50] <Moo_Moo> http://wlserver1-he.gindis.com/modules.php?name=WLAccount&file=visitor&op=game&userid=MzU4Ng== gindis game the best game on online
[04:51] <frogzoo> shawnr_: yup
[04:51] <frogzoo> shawnr_: well, this is all at your risk of course, no guarantees - but should be ok
[04:51] <qwerty2k> fyrestrtr, thanks, another quick question...i already have latest wine installed, when i compile and install will it overwrite existing one or do  iuninstall current one first etc?
[04:52] <fyrestrtr> qwerty2k: uninstall first.
[04:52] <qwerty2k> fyrestrtr, another quick question ;), will that remove any programs ive already got installed with current wine? (ie. my home/.wine/ etc directory?
[04:52] <fyrestrtr> qwerty2k: no
[04:52] <qwerty2k> fyrestrtr, ah ok, good, thanks for your time/help/patience
[04:53] <tinkerer> i'd like to get the latest SVN from http://perli.net/projekte/gpodder/downloads.html. how do i do it?
[04:53] <frogzoo> qwerty2k: best to uninstall the wine pkg, then install the new one - buf if you're not using debs, well it's messy
[04:53] <qwerty2k> previous install was debs frogzoo
[04:54] <fyrestrtr> tinkerer: read that page, it will tell you how.
[04:54] <tinkerer> fyrestrtr: thanks. so i just do svn co http://svn.berlios.de/svnroot/repos/gpodder/trunk gpodder?
[04:54] <frogzoo> qwerty2k: the new wine won't touch .wine - but it's recommended you remove .wine & reinstall all your apps - the quick & dirty is run 'wineprefixcreate'
[04:54] <tinkerer> how do i install SVN files
[04:54] <crowzz> ok thanx
[04:55] <mcphail> qwerty2k: the wine devs release new versions frequently. Would it be better asking them to include your patch in their source tree?
[04:55] <frogzoo> tinkerer: install 'subversion' then read the manual
[04:55] <crowzz> hello.....
[04:55] <SeicherlBoB> tinkerer: get subversion
[04:55] <Linuturk> i need an application to track my time and expenses for various clients, and I need to produce invoices and other forms, based on the hours I work. Anyone know of such a program? I've searched the repos, and can't find one :(
[04:55] <qwerty2k> mcphail, it isnt my patch, but a patch someone has created and uploaded to the appsdb for a fix or the cursor in football manager
[04:56] <mcphail> qwerty2k: ok
[04:56] <crowzz> need some help about installing a driver...... texas instruments......
[04:56] <frogzoo> Linuturk:  gnotime & karm are handy for tracking time
[04:56] <Canopus> Linuturk: there is something list of the sort on the dapper wiki page
[04:57] <crowzz> its an sd reader......
[04:57] <higen> how do i add stuff into the startup in kde.. change the session.. ?
[04:58] <saispo> where i can grab nvidia closed driver for ubuntu ?
[04:58] <Bassy> i tried installing the ubuntu server 6.06, partitioning my hd so there's a boot section first (for grub), and now when i start my computer, it keeps restarting (the grub loader gets to "boot" and restarts), has anyone experienced that?
[04:58] <SeicherlBoB> my make tells me, my c-compiler cant create executables (??) how can i fix that?
[04:59] <Linuturk> thanks frogzoo
[04:59] <nalioth> !tell saispo about nvidia
[04:59] <mcphail> SeicherlBoB: install build-essential
[05:00] <orbin> SeicherlBoB: what are you installing btw?
[05:00] <formation> formation
[05:00] <crowzz> anyone plz
[05:00] <SeicherlBoB> orbin: asterisk
[05:00] <SeicherlBoB> mcphail: hmm... they are missing, guess i better install them ;)
[05:00] <orbin> SeicherlBoB: i assume you know it's in the repos?
[05:00] <frogzoo> SeicherlBoB: there's an asterisk pkg, btw
[05:01] <SeicherlBoB> hmmm....
[05:01] <frogzoo> SeicherlBoB: heh...
[05:01] <SeicherlBoB> universe or mulitverse?
[05:01] <peg> what is the name of the fire fox plugin that tricks the web server into thining you are a internet exploerer browser when using fire fox
[05:01] <frogzoo> SeicherlBoB: universe  1:1.2.7.1.dfsg-2ubuntu3
[05:02] <SeicherlBoB> frogzoo: hehe... should have checked again after enableing universe repos ;)
[05:02] <Canopus> peg: it isn't available for linux.
[05:03] <mcphail> peg: something like "User-agent switcher"
[05:03] <mcphail> Canopus: the plugin which changes the user-agent string is in firefox. it is the tool which opens pages in i.e. which is windows only
[05:04] <mcphail> *linux
[05:04] <saispo> nalioth: broken ? ;)
[05:04] <tinkerer> ok. i got subversion and ran svn co http://svn.berlios.de/svnroot/repos/gpodder/trunk gpodder. now what's the next step?
[05:04] <saispo> oups, a query open :)
[05:04] <nalioth> saispo: check your Private Message
[05:04] <peg> mcphail, that is eactly what I want
[05:05] <peg> mcphail, do you use it?
[05:05] <Canopus> mcphail: don't know the science behind it. just know that the extension is for windows only :)
[05:05] <saispo> nalioth: thks :)
[05:05] <Canopus> mcphail: read that on the extension/addon page
[05:05] <mcphail> peg: have used it once or twice, but it makes me feel dirty ;p
[05:05] <peg> mcphail, well it looks like I will have to use it to acess my banks website
[05:06] <human> hiii all ...can i save the /apt/archives  directory on a cd and use it in another ubuntu installation....how will i use it to install packages via apt-get?
[05:06] <peg> mcphail, i just installed it and restarted the browser, where do i find the switcher?
[05:06] <carlfk_lap> ati - how do i activate the s-vid out port?
[05:06] <frogzoo> peg: it won't be a plugin - it will be an extension, & there's several agent spoofers, take your pick
[05:07] <thejusticecow_> does anyone know if there is an mp3 encoder i can apt-get? lame would be good...
[05:07] <human> thejusticecoz...yes lame is available
[05:08] <mcphail> peg: it will be buried in the menus "somewhere". It has been a long time since i used it, and the firefox menu system has changed a lot since then
[05:08] <peg> frogzoo, i installed this on https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/59/  still trying to figure out how to use it
[05:08] <human> hiii all ...can i save the /apt/archives  directory on a cd and use it in another ubuntu installation....how will i use it to install packages via apt-get?
[05:08] <mcphail> peg: sometimes the "extensions" window has a "preferences" button for the plugins
[05:08] <peg> aha i think i found it
[05:08] <peg> under tools
[05:08] <frogzoo> human: for x in *.deb ; do sudo dpkg -i $x ; done
[05:09] <mcphail> Canopus: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/59/ - different to the plugin you were thinking of?
[05:09] <thejusticecow> does anyone know if there is an mp3 encoder i can apt-get? lame would be good...
[05:10] <human> frogzoo:.....but there r dependencies and how will i know and fix the dependencies
[05:10] <thejusticecow> !mp3
[05:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:10] <frogzoo> human: well you can always 'sudo dpkg -i *.deb' but personally, that's a little drastic
[05:10] <Canopus> mcphail: yes. apologies for the mix up.
[05:10] <mcphail> Canopus: :)
[05:11] <tinkerer> After, running "svn co http://svn.berlios.de/svnroot/repos/gpodder/trunk gpodder" , what's the next step?
[05:11] <Aphex_Twin> how can I install support for the entire unicode character map?
[05:11] <human> frogzoo: ok.....but is there a way to tell 'synaptic package manager' or the tool 'apt-get' that there are these packages with me on CD
[05:11] <orbin> frogzoo: isn't the for loop equivalent?
[05:11] <stjepan> hi
[05:12] <frogzoo> orbin: nope - the for loop install the debs one at a time
[05:12] <M0E-lnx> how come kubuntu has no root account?
[05:12] <frogzoo> !root
[05:12] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:12] <xxxdp> sf
[05:12] <M0E-lnx> I read that... but I can't install my nvidia driver
[05:13] <qwerty2k> sorry to bug you again, but by any chance anyone know what i need to apt-get for the X development files?
[05:13] <Bonez56> M0E-lnx: everyone else installs theirs ok?
[05:13] <human> frogzoo: ok.....but is there a way to tell 'synaptic package manager' or the tool 'apt-get' that there are these packages with me on CD
[05:13] <M0E-lnx> I don't know..
[05:13] <xxxdp> hey i want to move my home directory to a new harddrive, all I have to do is partition it, copy over home, edit fstab and reboot right?
[05:13] <orbin> frogzoo: and the dpkg command does them all at once? :-/
[05:13] <M0E-lnx> I can't even install rppppoe
[05:13] <synic> M0E-lnx: perhaps a better description of your problem would help.
[05:13] <Bonez56> M0E-lnx: are you typeing sudo before the installation command?
[05:13] <stjepan> guys, what do you think of my new desktop: http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/7171/screenshottf3.png ???
[05:14] <human> orbin:  ok.....but is there a way to tell 'synaptic package manager' or the tool 'apt-get' that there are these packages with me on CD
[05:14] <M0E-lnx> I forgot... something about my some files not found in my PATH
[05:14] <frogzoo> orbin: I believe it tries to resolve all the dependencies at once, yes
[05:14] <orbin> xxxdp: i think so, yes
[05:14] <orbin> human: i'm deferring to frogzoo :P
[05:14] <orbin> i'd probably tell you something wrong
[05:14] <[Wiebel] > can I start an app in gnome/ubuntu borderless?
[05:14] <human> :(
[05:14] <orbin> frogzoo: oh, i see.  cheers
[05:14] <Canopus> xxxdp: your home directory means /home/something???
[05:14] <[Wiebel] > (fullscreen)
[05:15] <xxxdp> yes
[05:15] <xxxdp> well no, just /home
[05:15] <xxxdp> not a single users /home/foo but the whole /home
[05:15] <Canopus> xxxdp: ok. then seems like you are doing the right thing
[05:16] <frogzoo> xxxdp: that will work, yes
[05:16] <frogzoo> [Wiebel] : check out devilspie - with some fiddling it will do that
[05:16] <bit_doidao> had anyone syncronized palm with windowsxp on vmware running on ubuntu?
[05:16] <xxxdp> It's all good if i fuk it up, everything is bak'd up, so... yeah thnx
[05:16] <[Wiebel] > frogzoo: thanks
[05:16] <orbin> heh
[05:16] <sloof3> Is there a text log of what packages have been installed?
[05:17] <frogzoo> sloof3: dpkg --get-selections
[05:17] <mcphail> bit_doidao: i think you will struggle with that
[05:18] <unknown_one> hello
[05:19] <human> frogzoo: wen i installed ubuntu on another system and copied the packages with me to the archives directory it dint recognize them and went to download the packages from net ...how can i avoid that?
[05:19] <unknown_one> is anyone having problems apt-getting anything?  It seems I cannot connect to the repositories :(
[05:19] <Canopus> Bye guys. thanx a lot for the help and apologies if i have guided someone wrong.
[05:19] <lhds> i have installed and reinstalled and reinstalled but i get ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link problems how to solve that
[05:19] <frogzoo> human: yeh, not sure
[05:19] <flodine> anyone know of a program i can use to check my cpu temps?
[05:20] <human> frogzoo: ok thanx....does anyone know ?
[05:20] <frogzoo> flodine: gnome sensors applet
[05:20] <bit_doidao> human, you had copied the files to /var/cache/apt/archives?
[05:20] <Aphex_Twin> why doesn't ubuntu come packed with full unicode support?
[05:21] <flodine> frogzoo are they in the repos
[05:21] <M0E-lnx> is it possible to do a net install if I connect via PPPOE and have to authenticate to the server?
[05:21] <human> bit_doidao: yes i copied the packages to archives
[05:21] <crowzz> about yup
[05:21] <bit_doidao> human, the apt check there first, if files exist, it use it, if not, download
[05:21] <lhds> human it just does not read
[05:22] <frogzoo> flodine: pkg name is 'sensors-applet'
[05:22] <lhds> and dont try to install them one after another its unhealthy first your hand will shurely crash than they will not be inserted by order
[05:22] <M0E-lnx> has anyone tried this?
[05:22] <human> bit_doidao: do i need to change the text file which maintains the list of available packages after copyuing or run some update database commands
[05:23] <human> ?
[05:23] <tinkerer> After, running "svn co http://svn.berlios.de/svnroot/repos/gpodder/trunk gpodder" , what's the next step?
[05:24] <bit_doidao> human, i dont think so. here it works perfect
[05:24] <human> bit_doidao: ok thank u
[05:24] <forceflow1049> when I try in install ubuntu, linux is uncompressed, but when the kernal tries to boot, I get a message saying unable to allocate resources for region...
[05:24] <M0E-lnx> I guess it work work heh
[05:24] <len> Hi, ne1 knows if there's any version of musicmatch to Linux
[05:24] <len> ?
[05:24] <human> Thanx all ... :) :-h bye...
[05:25] <lhds> i have installed and reinstalled and reinstalled but i get ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link problems how to solve that
[05:26] <lhds> forceflow same here
[05:26] <Kumo> Hi, please some help, I cannot mount any usb device
[05:26] <M0E-lnx> about the netinstall thing....
[05:26] <ubunewbie> hello.  i have a problem with my wifi card not associating.  is anyone willing to listen?
[05:26] <M0E-lnx> aoneone?
[05:27] <fistandantilus> lhds: have you tried booting with acpi=off?
[05:27] <fistandantilus> M0E-lnx: i wasnt aware ubuntu even had a net install?
[05:27] <lhds> fistandantilus how i have grub installed
[05:27] <Kumo> the file /proc/bus/usb is empty so I tried this on the fstab:  none /proc/bus/usb   usbdevfs defaults  0  0 without success
[05:27] <len> dows any1 knows if there's any musicmatch for linux?
[05:27] <ToRTuReD_X> hmm errr guys what's the link to that little script that auto shows all removable media drives on my system in the "computer" window?
[05:28] <lhds> how to boot with acpi=off?
[05:28] <fistandantilus> lhds: hit escape during bootup, press 'e' i believe to edit the boot string, and add acpi=off to the end of it
[05:28] <Linuturk> I've got a major problem. apt-get and symantic can't connect to the repos. I can ping the repos, but neither can download from them. Firefox and IRC work fine. I'm using network manager.
[05:28] <orbin> len: why not check the official site and find out?
[05:28] <lhds> cant i write it from here?
[05:28] <andresmujica> Linuturk: maybe a proxy??
[05:28] <Linuturk> no proxy
[05:28] <orbin> len: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221581&highlight=musicmatch
[05:28] <fryfrog> If I wanted to speak with someone about updating the version of a package available in Ubuntu, what channel should I join?
[05:29] <len> thx orbin
[05:29] <lhds> cant i write it from the setup files from here and not from boot? isnt it somewhere in the modprobe.d?
[05:30] <fistandantilus> lhds: id just add it for one boot initially at startup in case it doesnt work or whatever, but you can add it to grub's menu.lst im sure
[05:30] <Linuturk> andresmujica, no proxie, it's a direct connection. All other forms of network traffic work (ie Gaim, xchat, Firefox, ping)
[05:30] <lhds> and where would that be?
[05:30] <fistandantilus> Linuturk: not connecting at all or just slow? they may be timing out, ifso, check topic and use a mirror
[05:31] <Kumo> please any help with the usb?
[05:31] <fistandantilus> lhds: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:31] <lhds> ok got it
[05:31] <Linuturk> fistandantilus, I can still ping the repo it's trying to access, w/o any timeouts. It is connecting to the server, but all the downloads are failing . . .
[05:32] <ToRTuReD_X> erm how do i mount partitions?
[05:32] <fistandantilus> Linuturk: ive heard of people having problems last few days all i can sugget is possibly using a mirror
[05:32] <orbin> ToRTuReD_X: what filesystem?
[05:32] <fryfrog> remove the "us." from in front of "archive"
[05:32] <fryfrog> that fixed the slow mirror issue for me
[05:32] <ToRTuReD_X> i'm using the live cd due to a small error in windows xp, so i need to see my hard drives so i can burn a few cd's before formatting
[05:32] <boolka> Is it possible to install ubuntu without the graphical installer - sorta like debian where it asks you alot of questions? - I want to learn linux and know what its doing during the install...
[05:32] <ToRTuReD_X> errr ntfs i think
[05:32] <bburns> Is there a way to have a piece of equipment (that has a configuration setting for a syslog server IP) record to the syslog on ubuntu?
[05:33] <fryfrog> I am interested in getting the Gallery 2 package updated to current in Ubuntu, does anyone know if there is a channel for doing that?
[05:33] <ToRTuReD_X> tell me it's not possible orbin and i'll cry like a little girl
[05:33] <fryfrog> boolka: if you wanna learn linux that way, try gentoo instead :p
[05:33] <Linuturk> where do I define a new mirror?
[05:33] <fistandantilus> boolka: the 'alternate' install iso used a text based installer
[05:33] <lhds> i add it at the very top of the grub list?
[05:33] <fistandantilus> Linuturk: your sources.lst
[05:33] <boolka> fryfrog dont feel like compiling every pckg
[05:33] <Linuturk> what dir is that in?
[05:33] <coolcatjk> does anyone know how to set my default printer settings to go to gtklp?
[05:34] <boolka> fistandantilus thats for the dapper correct?
[05:34] <coolcatjk> the stupid default dialogue has no options
[05:34] <orbin> ToRTuReD_X: sure is.  i assume you have two cd/dvd drives?
[05:34] <bburns> How would I use syslog to log outside my IP?
[05:34] <fistandantilus> boolka: correct
[05:34] <boolka> fistandantilus thank you
[05:34] <bburns> Like, have another computer write to the syslog on my central server
[05:34] <bburns> I can fill in a syslog IP
[05:34] <ToRTuReD_X> orbin not at all
[05:34] <fistandantilus> lhds: you need to add it to the end of the line of the kernel you normally boot
[05:34] <bburns> but I am unsure as to set it up
[05:34] <coolcatjk> GTKLP anyone?  How to set that as default?
[05:34] <ToRTuReD_X> wait i can grab my other burner though
[05:35] <fistandantilus> Linuturk: /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:35] <Linuturk> thanks fistandantilus
[05:35] <lhds> aha
[05:35] <ToRTuReD_X> even if i can't burn i can always move the files needed to the 2nd hard drive
[05:35] <lhds> this is pure pain by the way
[05:36] <flodine> anyone use sensors-detect that can help
[05:36] <fistandantilus> lhds: honestly it would probably have been easier to just add it once during bootup to see if it even works
[05:36] <orbin> ToRTuReD_X: well, ntfs support is read-only...is the other partition ntfs too?
[05:36] <ToRTuReD_X> no idea
[05:36] <ToRTuReD_X> either way i can grab a 2nd cd drive
[05:37] <coolcatjk> kdeprint seems good to
[05:37] <coolcatjk> why doesn't gnome have something like this?
[05:37] <coolcatjk> i guess GTKLP is supposed to do the trick
[05:37] <coolcatjk> i've installed it but I can't get that dialogue when I print something from my apps
[05:37] <nathanial> hello folks. I'm looking for help with DVD REGION CODES.
[05:37] <orbin> ToRTuReD_X: anyway: 'sudo mkdir /media/ntfs'
[05:37] <coolcatjk> what else do I need to do to set gtklp?
[05:37] <lhds> okay i am going for it
[05:37] <lhds> babay and thanx
[05:38] <orbin> ToRTuReD_X: then try: 'sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/ntfs'
[05:38] <ToRTuReD_X> thanks
[05:38] <orbin> ToRTuReD_X: assuming the ntfs partition is /dev/hda1 (use sudo fdisk -l to find out)
[05:38] <bburns> can anyone help me with syslog?
[05:38] <ToRTuReD_X> k
[05:39] <bburns> please
[05:39] <rdz> hi all. does anybody know which tool does diskformatting?
[05:39] <fistandantilus> nathanial: what do you need? do you have regionset installed?
[05:39] <ToRTuReD_X> there's /dev/hda1 and /dev/hdb1
[05:39] <ToRTuReD_X> both are ntfs
[05:39] <nathanial> firstandantilus: I don't know what regionset is. . . I want to know what my current region code is.
[05:39] <orbin> ToRTuReD_X: hda1 is the first drive, hdb1 is the second
[05:40] <fistandantilus> nathanial: should say on the dvd
[05:40] <ailean> hey, is there a reliable open source video converter? i.e. to convert from divx to a smaller version for a PDA?
[05:41] <ToRTuReD_X> ok orbin
[05:41] <ToRTuReD_X> didn't work
[05:41] <tinkerer> i want to install the latest versiion of gpodder. I have ran "svn co http://svn.berlios.de/svnroot/repos/gpodder/trunk gpodder" already. Could someone tell me the next step?
[05:41] <crafton> hey, somebody has tested http://diva-project.org ?
[05:41] <tinkerer> please?
[05:41] <nathanial> firstandantilus: It doesn't say on my DVD 'properties'
[05:41] <ToRTuReD_X> i remember these was a script made to auto mount partitions
[05:41] <orbin> ToRTuReD_X: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[05:41] <fistandantilus> nathanial: im talking about on the dvd case, if its burnt or something i know of no way to check
[05:42] <Giskard> hi guys
[05:42] <kenkku> I might have a problem
[05:42] <ToRTuReD_X> >_> errr thanks lol
[05:42] <luisgd> hello, I'm new to ubuntu and I'm trying to use my palm pilot with GNOME-pilot. However, I can't see any of my files or appointments, etc on GNOME-pilot. Can someone help?
[05:42] <aep> hi what packages do i need to get a build enviroment?
[05:42] <aep> i miss thiungs like make and gcc
[05:42] <fyrestrtr> !b-e > aep
[05:42] <sloof3> frogzoo: Thanks
[05:43] <nathanial> firstandantilus, unfortunately I have a laptop and can't check the hardware too easily. Thanks anyways
[05:43] <Giskard> i have a lil problem, sometimes when i start ubuntu i can type, well i can but keys start to repeat pressing just once :S sometimes i press on key and there are 2,3,4,5 or more than 10 :S, sometimes when i boot everything its ok :S how can i solve that?
[05:43] <orbin> ToRTuReD_X: probably should have given you that first out...sorry
[05:43] <luisgd> hello, I'm new to ubuntu and I'm trying to use my palm pilot with GNOME-pilot. However, I can't see any of my files or appointments, etc on GNOME-pilot. Can someone help?
[05:43] <fyrestrtr> Giskard: adjust your keyboard repeat rate in the keyboard settings.
[05:44] <Twi88> Salut
[05:44] <Twi88> il y a des franais
[05:44] <ToRTuReD_X> uh oh
[05:44] <Giskard> but how?i cant even log in :S and like i said simetimes it works fine sometimes not :S
[05:44] <ToRTuReD_X> orbin no worries mate
[05:44] <ToRTuReD_X> small gliche
[05:44] <ygetartson> hi
[05:44] <Twi88> i little speak english
[05:44] <ailean> #ubuntu-fr, Twi88
[05:44] <ygetartson> gnomebaker always gives me trouble
[05:44] <crafton> Salut, somebody has been playing with diva ( http://diva-project.org ) ?
[05:45] <ailean> mais je parle francais
[05:45] <ToRTuReD_X> /dev/hda1 is already mounter on /media/hda1
[05:45] <Twi88> ok
[05:45] <ToRTuReD_X> o-O
[05:45] <ygetartson> it cant send the cue sheets.
[05:45] <fyrestrtr> !fr
[05:45] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:45] <Twi88> je suis nouveau sur linux
[05:45] <ygetartson> this is a known problem?
[05:45] <Twi88> yes
[05:45] <ailean> je vais a #ubuntu-fr
[05:45] <Twi88> linux mandriva impossible setup amsn
[05:46] <aep> i just miss libc
[05:46] <Twi88> i not english?
[05:46] <frogzoo> !fr
[05:46] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:46] <orbin> ToRTuReD_X: b/c of the mount command earlier...unmount it: sudo umount /dev/hda1 ... i think
[05:46] <adminx> Sound issue has been resolved. Thanks
[05:46] <ToRTuReD_X> lol kk
[05:46] <Twi88> je suis ubuntu
[05:46] <ailean> Twi, on doit parler anglais ici, allons-nous a #ubuntu-fr
[05:46] <frogzoo> Twi88: pour ubuntu en francais, allez au #ubuntu-fr
[05:47] <Twi88> tu fais comment
[05:47] <Twi88> #ubuntu-fr
[05:47] <ailean> "/join #ubuntu-fr"
[05:47] <Twi88> merci
[05:47] <ailean> de rien
[05:48] <Twi88> c'est long la connection
[05:48] <ToRTuReD_X> hmm well that worked... -_-
[05:49] <orbin> ToRTuReD_X: so why the face? :)
[05:49] <ToRTuReD_X> sarcasm my friend ;/
[05:49] <ToRTuReD_X> hmm
[05:49] <aep> ah ubuntu splits in -dev packages, bah
[05:49] <ToRTuReD_X> you know i kinda realise why i gave up on linux
[05:49] <Warbo> Anyone familiar with Gazpacho? I managed to crash it, and I can't save my work
[05:49] <ailean> hey, ToRTuReD_X it's getting much better :)
[05:49] <ailean> Warbo, the soup?
[05:50] <ToRTuReD_X> maybe so but i'm a point and click man
[05:50] <ToRTuReD_X> ;/
[05:50] <Warbo> ailean: Named after it. It's a GTK GUI editor, based on GLADE
[05:50] <ailean> never heard of it :)
[05:50] <orbin> ToRTuReD_X: you might've been able to mount them via sys > admin >disks
[05:51] <Warbo> It seems quite nice, since it has told me the error and asks if I want to save, but then it says "The name Player4Entry is used in more than one widget"
[05:51] <Warbo> (and I can't change the widget names because Gizpacho has crashed :( )
[05:51] <ToRTuReD_X> lol orbin
[05:51] <ToRTuReD_X> no > disks menu
[05:52] <ToRTuReD_X> i'm still tinkering with 5.04
[05:52] <Warbo> It's not a menu, it's an application
[05:52] <Warbo> Oh
[05:52] <ygetartson> do i have to use gnomebaker as root?
[05:52] <orbin> ToRTuReD_X: ah.
[05:52] <Warbo> ygetartson: No, I don;t think so
[05:52] <ToRTuReD_X> that bad?\
[05:52] <fistandantilus> ive got to use k3b as root dunno about gnomebaker
[05:52] <ygetartson> Warbo: but it fails always.
[05:52] <ygetartson> it cant pass the cue sheets
[05:53] <Warbo> Well if it doesn;t work as a user try as root
[05:53] <orbin> ToRTuReD_X: not really...just that you might be missing features as you just found out
[05:53] <ToRTuReD_X> ;_;
[05:53] <ToRTuReD_X> i ain't waiting another 12 weeks for the cds
[05:53] <nikin> there is a cue/bin to ISO converter
[05:53] <Warbo> !info bchunk
[05:53] <ubotu> bchunk: CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-1 (dapper), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB
[05:53] <ToRTuReD_X> last time i ordered them i completely forgot i did by the time they arrived
[05:54] <Warbo> ToRTuReD_X: It's worth it, because now you get stickers :)
[05:54] <ToRTuReD_X> lmao
[05:54] <ToRTuReD_X> wooo go the stickers
[05:54] <ToRTuReD_X> i can be a nerd on the road
[05:54] <orbin> ToRTuReD_X: you can grab them from alternative places i've heard
[05:54] <ToRTuReD_X> hooray for bumper bars lol
[05:54] <lhds> i have turned acpi to off .. .i guess things got a bit better but i have this    16.380590]  PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 3 of device 0000:00:00.0 and i guess that its my tv card what to do now?
[05:55] <ToRTuReD_X> anyway the problem is i have work related items i can't just format over
[05:55] <nikin> see ya
[05:55] <Warbo> Nobody knows whether Gazpacho stores it's temporary files on disk somewhere then?
[05:56] <ygetartson> Warbo: it seems to work
[05:56] <ailean> hey, i'm looking for a Borland/Inprise style C/C++ IDE. what should i use?
[05:56] <Warbo> ygetartson: bchunk?
[05:56] <orbin> ToRTuReD_X: well you've got them mounted, start copying i guess. :)
[05:56] <pcfan> where can I ask questions regard python programming ?
[05:56] <ToRTuReD_X> orbin
[05:56] <ygetartson> sudo gnomebaker
[05:56] <ToRTuReD_X> i can't even open the drives
[05:56] <orbin> ailean: anjuta?
[05:56] <ygetartson> Warbo: what is bchunk?
[05:56] <pcfan> where can I ask questions about python programming ?
[05:56] <Warbo> ygetartson: Always use gksudo for GUI apps (stops config files getting screwed)
[05:57] <ailean> thanks orbin - fairly easy to use?
[05:57] <Warbo> ygetartson: Converts bin/cue to iso
[05:57] <kenkku> how easy is it to upgrade to 6.06 from 5.10? do I have to download 6.06 as an image or can I use synaptic or something?
[05:57] <orbin> ailean: dunno...never used it :P  just seen it recommended a lot
[05:57] <ailean> k :) thanks
[05:57] <ygetartson> Warbo: hm, alright
[05:57] <ailean> what about eclipse? is that only for java
[05:57] <ro> can some body help me?
[05:57] <orbin> ailean: i'm happy with vim and two terminals
[05:57] <ailean> orbin, what about eclipse? is that only for java
[05:57] <carlfk_lap> what is a Bittorrent app that will let me pick files in a torrent to dl first?
[05:57] <ailean> orbin, i hate you geeks :P
[05:57] <ailean> orbin, (joke)
[05:57] <kenkku> carlfk_lap: azureus
[05:57] <lhds> teb if i get FATAL: Error inserting saa7134 (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/media/video/saa7134/saa7134.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) FATAL: Error running install command for saa7134 what can i do?
[05:57] <Warbo> ro: Tell us your woes
[05:58] <mrPolite> carlfk_lap: azureus
[05:58] <Twi88> ailean sos
[05:58] <orbin> ailean: never used it before, sorry
[05:58] <ro> i have a problem with sound ( mp3 ) im using ubnutu 5.04
[05:58] <ailean> orbin, thanks
[05:58] <Warbo> !mp3 > ro
[05:58] <kenkku> can I upgrade 5.10->6.06 without needing to install again?
[05:58] <ro> !mp3
[05:58] <shawnie> Hey nikin. it's "s" from before.
[05:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:58] <ailean> Twi88, tu besion d'aide?
[05:58] <carlfk_lap> kenkku: other than az? (it is kinda sluggish)
[05:58] <Twi88> oui
[05:58] <kenkku> carlfk_lap: dunno then. I use it myself
[05:58] <lhds> alaide
[05:58] <Twi88> as-tu des connaissance sur mandriva
[05:58] <linuxd00d> twi88
[05:58] <carlfk_lap> kenkku: ok - thanks
[05:58] <ro> oh tanks
[05:58] <linuxd00d> !fr
[05:58] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:58] <lhds> ouii c trop chian
[05:59] <Warbo> !upgrade > kenkku
[05:59] <shawnie> I've installed Ubuntu in full and updated it but I'm still having trouble.
[05:59] <shawnie> Any ideas?
[05:59] <ailean> Twi88, ok, dans la program, fait "/join #ubuntu-fr" sans les "s
[05:59] <polpak> ! upgrade > kenkku
[05:59] <ailean> guys, we know about ubuntu-fr
[05:59] <ailean> i' ve been trying to get Twi88 there
[05:59] <Enselic> I fail to set the CVSROOT envvar. I export it in .bash_profile, but it seems to not load when I open up a new terminal window.
[05:59] <lhds> wiwi au pays des merveilles
[06:00] <ke> What was that thing I should get instead of automatix?
[06:00] <ailean> as-tu fait que j'ai dit, Twi88 ?
[06:00] <Twi88> oui
[06:00] <ailean> easyubuntu, ke
[06:00] <impaterna> ,,,
[06:00] <Enselic> Where can I find the script that execues whenever I open up the shell?
[06:00] <dr_willis> ke - learn how to install the stuff manually - is the best bet.
[06:00] <Warbo> ke: EasyUbuntu? (or just get the stuff you want manually)
[06:00] <fistandantilus> easyubuntu is the other one, though using apt-get the long way is the safest
[06:00] <Twi88> mais je suis une quiche
[06:00] <lhds> FATAL: Error inserting saa7134 (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/media/video/saa7134/saa7134.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[06:00] <shawnie> Hey there. I was wondering if anyone could help me, I'm a first time linux user with some problems.
[06:00] <lhds> FATAL: Error running install command for saa7134
[06:00] <ke> Yeah, I know how to install the stuff, I'm just lazy
[06:00] <ke> Hehe
[06:00] <ailean> je peux pas te voir, Twi88
[06:00] <ranjan> hi i am trying to install xubuntu and its hanging at 76%, i tried the xubuntu chat room but it doesn't have many people
[06:01] <dr_willis> ke i keep a copy of my 'history' so i get my own - auto install the stuff script. :P  ive had both the 'helper' tools like Auto and EasyU. mess up befor.
[06:01] <orbin> shawnie: welcome. what problems?
[06:01] <ke> I see
[06:01] <Twi88> je n'y arrive
[06:01] <Twi88> pas
[06:01] <ailean> ok i've had enough, I can't get Twi88 to ubuntu-fr. anyone else want to try?
[06:01] <ke> Well anyways, this is just a thing I'm running on VMware ...
[06:01] <shawnie> I'm using a Toshiba Satellite P10 Laptop and my touchpad isn' working.
[06:01] <ke> Hehe
[06:01] <shawnie> Also the battery monitor program seems to be broken too.
[06:02] <Doctor_Who> ke: me too
[06:02] <ro> can some body in private help me please
[06:02] <ailean> ro, no
[06:02] <fistandantilus> toshibas have headaches with linux i swear, even 5-6 years ago ;/
[06:02] <ailean> ask your question here
[06:02] <Twi88> i am big shit
[06:02] <ro> i downloaded azerus but i cant start it
[06:02] <Warbo> !java > ro
[06:02] <orbin> shawnie: touchpad not working at all?
[06:03] <Twi88> sos
[06:03] <fistandantilus> the laptops just never seem to install correctly out of the box
[06:03] <shawnie> Nope. I'm using an external USB mouse.
[06:03] <knapper> How do I ignore dependency versions while installing a package?
[06:03] <Twi88> help ailean
[06:03] <ro> will try
[06:03] <ailean> Twi88, j'essai t'aider
[06:03] <Warbo> knapper: You can do "sudo dpkg --force-depends -i filename.deb" but apt will break
[06:03] <Twi88> ok
[06:04] <Twi88> mais je n'arrive je dois mal faire la manipulation
[06:04] <ranjan> idumped wndows and now i am stuck trying to install xubuntu
[06:04] <ro> i have 5.04 ubnutu wich java do i need?
[06:04] <Warbo> ro: I think j2re1.4
[06:04] <knapper> Warbo, I have gaim 2 beta 3 installed and I'm trying to install the dev files.
[06:04] <frogzoo> Twi88: /join #ubuntu-fr
[06:04] <ro> k
[06:04] <ailean> frogzoo, i told him that :)
[06:04] <knapper> Warbo, and it's complaining about the versions mismatch I guess
[06:04] <ailean> frogzoo, he's prob taking the piss
[06:04] <frogzoo> ailean: c'est vrai
[06:04] <Warbo> knapper: I don't know about that, but I managed to uninstall libc6 with --force-depends :)
[06:05] <Warbo> (then reinstalled my system)
[06:05] <shawnie> Anyone any ideas?
[06:05] <root__> quit
[06:05] <root__> q
[06:05] <ailean> ok he's there. any more french, kick him :P
[06:05] <root__> quit
[06:05] <fistandantilus> try /quit
[06:06] <orbin> shawnie: do you know if your touchpad goes by a name?  e.g. on my compaq it's called a synaptics touchpad
[06:06] <ro> can i upgrade to newer ubnutu with out burning it on a cd?
[06:06] <fistandantilus> ro: net upgrade, yes
[06:06] <fistandantilus> !upgrade
[06:06] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[06:07] <Frankenstein> what are the pros / cons of updating to the development version
[06:07] <NeoThermic> ok, I alterd the package sources, it tried to update, and it has now frozen my whole laptop. I was using the live CD ability to see if ubuntu works on my laptop. Is there any way to recover the system without rebooting?
[06:07] <Warbo> ro: Go from 5.04>5.10>6.06 (not 5.04>6.06)
[06:07] <Warbo> Frankenstein: You may get new features, you will get new bugs
[06:07] <Giskard> why i have keys repeated under gnome, but under command line it works perfect :S how can i solve it
[06:08] <fistandantilus> Frankenstein: if your talking about edgy i wouldnt reccomend it unless you like playing with broken things, it is far from stable
[06:08] <fistandantilus> i'd use a different partition at the vary least, thats what i do
[06:08] <Warbo> Frankenstein: You could always dual boot
[06:08] <fistandantilus> right
[06:08] <shawnie> I'm thinking I'll have to go back to Windows.
[06:09] <Frankenstein> nah, no dual boot for me :P i need all my hard drive space
[06:09] <orbin> NeoThermic: don't know if it would work w/ the livecd, but i usually see if i can get to console w/ ctrl+alt+f1
[06:09] <Frankenstein> i only have a small 80 gig hardrive anyway
[06:09] <tuxtux> reboot
[06:09] <orbin> NeoThermic: then i'd restart gdm
[06:09] <Frankenstein> NeoThermic, ctrl + alt + backspace
[06:09] <NeoThermic> ok, lets see if the keyboard is responding
[06:10] <ro> maybe there is a ready skript for upgrade?
[06:10] <Giskard> is there a way to fix that (repeating keys under gnome)?
[06:10] <NeoThermic> ney to ctrl+alt+f1... trying ctrl+alt+bkspc
[06:10] <NeoThermic> ok
[06:10] <NeoThermic> hehe
[06:10] <NeoThermic> it has totally frozen my laptop :\
[06:10] <Frankenstein> ro, just follow the directions to upgrade, it's really simple :P
[06:10] <NeoThermic> time to reboot!
[06:10] <Frankenstein> NeoThermic, cut the plug man!
[06:10] <orbin> Giskard: sys > prefs > k/board?
[06:10] <fistandantilus> ro: no, the linki ubotu posted is the official way, and you need to update to breezy before going to dapper, all in all a new install of a cd may be easier
[06:11] <Frankenstein> ive head the dapper install cd is sort of unstable, true?
[06:11] <NeoThermic> Frankenstein: its a laptop, it somehow is able to power itself even when unplugged! It's unstoppable! ;)
[06:11] <piclez41> hi folks, what's the best way to install java SDK in ubuntu please?
[06:11] <ro> okey i gona try
[06:11] <ro> i have no blanks around here (
[06:11] <stjepan> !compzi
[06:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about compzi - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:11] <stjepan> !compiz
[06:11] <Warbo> !info sun-java5-jdk
[06:11] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:11] <Frankenstein> NeoThermic, you ever hear of a power switch? if all else fails simply remove the battery
[06:11] <ubotu> sun-java5-jdk: Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 4868 kB, installed size 11548 kB
[06:12] <NeoThermic> Frankenstein: it was a dry humours joke. Power button did work :)
[06:12] <fistandantilus> all you have to do is hold the power button down regardless if its a laptop or not, plugged in or not heh
[06:12] <orbin> Frankenstein: i haven't had problems w/ it ...
[06:12] <kulbir> who has a good sources.list file ?
[06:12] <shawnie> Anyone?
[06:13] <Frankenstein> kulbir, the wiki has an excellent one :{
[06:13] <w32> I'm having some sound problems on my toshiba 4015CDT Laptop running  Hoary can any one point me in the right direction or offer a bit of assistance ?
[06:13] <Frankenstein> kulbir, the wiki has an excellent one :P *
[06:13] <fistandantilus> Frankenstein: i wouldnt say unstable but its got a ways to go before it works with everyone, wierd hardware sometimes makes ppl resort to the alternate install cd
[06:13] <kulbir> Frankenstein: thanks
[06:13] <Warbo> !sound > w32
[06:13] <Zambezi> Where's Seveas when I need him?
[06:13] <fistandantilus> these ppl really need to update to current releases
[06:13] <w32> Warbo thank you
[06:14] <shawnie> Hey w32 do you have Ubuntu on a toshiba laptop?
[06:14] <Doctor_Who> shawnie: if you move the mouse around does it "dance" at the upper corner?
[06:14] <Frankenstein> fistandantilus, guess ill keep these breezy cds :P
[06:14] <fistandantilus> its  hard to troubleshoot a system from years ago
[06:14] <Kumo> guys please could you help me with my usb? it cannot detect anything, my /proc/bus/usb is empty so I added none /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs defaults 0 0 to the fstab but no success
[06:14] <w32> shawnie yes
[06:14] <shawnie> Nope
[06:14] <Giskard> orbin> if i could log in i could use my mouse, but all i have is command line and dunno what to do there :S
[06:14] <shawnie> Does your touchpad work?
[06:14] <w32> yes
[06:14] <fistandantilus> Frankenstein: the alternate install cd is dapper with the breezy text install works like a charm
[06:14] <w32> shawnie X was the real problem
[06:14] <shawnie> Did it work straight away or have you had to do something?
[06:14] <Warbo> I found the install CD experience pretty cool. The first time I tried it the installer crashed, but it turned out I had some partitions mounted. I treid again (not even rebooting) and it worked. I was in here, surfing the web and listening to MP3s in Listen whilst installing. That was cool
[06:14] <Frankenstein> Kumo, try tail -f /var/log/messages and plug in your usb, see what your system is really doing
[06:14] <shawnie> I installed ubuntu and it's not working.
[06:14] <orbin> shawnie: if you're willing to try something a little complicated, personally i'd reconfigure what's called the xorg package...that might get your touchpad working.  as for the applet, no idea sorry.
[06:15] <w32> shawnie: it worked straight on
[06:15] <fistandantilus> yeah i had no problem with the livecd on all three of my systems, except having to run a boot parameter for one of them, thats about it
[06:15] <shawnie> Could you talk me through the reconfiguring thing orbin?
[06:15] <Frankenstein> !x
[06:15] <shawnie> ah, lucky git w32. LOL
[06:15] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:15] <Kumo> Frankenstein: no changes
[06:15] <Frankenstein> in here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto i think :P
[06:16] <orbin> Giskard: i don't understand the problem then...i thought you were having problems in gnome?
[06:16] <Frankenstein> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  but follow the rest to save your old config
[06:16] <w32> I know the touch pads are particularly subject to fail on them shawnie-did it work with other OS's
[06:16] <fraggsta> can anyone help here?  I just installed KDE onto Dapper (not Kubuntu).  When I log out, restart the machine and log back in I just get a black desktop with a panel.  If I hide the panel the desktop can be seen underneath it, above the panel the desktop does not exist.  The black part of the screen does not react to mouse input.
[06:16] <orbin> shawnie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto#head-c7979448ab81077f16349d3ca4be7aa5a5a52de2
[06:16] <shawnie> Yeah. It worked with Windows XP no problem.
[06:16] <orbin> eh, too slow
[06:17] <orbin> anyway, i gtg.   good luck.
[06:18] <Giskard> yeah i have problems on gnome, repeating keys, when i try to log that happens, the only normal place for keys its command line, but dont know how to fix the problem from there
[06:18] <NeoThermic> Hmm. I just did a CD check for kicks. It seems to be "stuck" on checking the ./casper/filesystem.squashfs file. It just keeps checking it over and over...
[06:18] <NeoThermic> is this normal?
[06:18] <fistandantilus> no your cd is borked heh
[06:18] <Frankenstein> !floppy
[06:18] <ubotu> To mount floppy disks, see here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[06:18] <Frankenstein> been meaning to look into my floppy problem
[06:19] <NeoThermic> bugger
[06:19] <NeoThermic> lets check the md5sum's
[06:19] <shawnie> I'm screwed.
[06:19] <ro> now i have a problem
[06:19] <ro> m/ubuntu/dists/brezy-updates/main/source/Sources.gz: 404 Not Found
[06:19] <ro> http://lv.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/brezy-updates/restricted/source/Sources.gz: 404 Not Found
[06:19] <ro> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/brezy-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found [IP: 82.211.81.138 80] 
[06:19] <ro> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/brezy-security/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found [IP: 82.211.81.138 80] 
[06:19] <ro> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/brezy-security/main/source/Sources.gz: 404 Not Found [IP: 82.211.81.138 80] 
[06:19] <ro> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/brezy-security/restricted/source/Sources.gz: 404 Not Found [IP: 82.211.81.138 80] 
[06:19] <Frankenstein> !pastebin
[06:19] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:19] <ro> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/brezy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[06:19] <ro> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/brezy/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[06:19] <fistandantilus> STOP
[06:19] <ro> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/brezy/main/source/Sources.gz: 404 Not Found
[06:19] <Frankenstein> ro, stop
[06:19] <ro> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/brezy/restricted/source/Sources.gz: 404 Not Found
[06:19] <Spec> !ops
[06:19] <ro> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/brezy-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[06:19] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[06:19] <ro> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/brezy-updates/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[06:19] <ro> okey
[06:20] <ro> im sorry abouth that
[06:20] <fistandantilus> do NOT paste here
[06:20] <ro> okey
[06:20] <ro> im sorry
[06:20] <fistandantilus> !pastebin
[06:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:20] <ro> i cant under stand now where is the problem
[06:20] <NeoThermic> aha! must of been a large file
[06:20] <Warbo> ro: breezy, not brezy
[06:20] <Frankenstein> sigh, time to get some nourishment, brb
[06:20] <NeoThermic> the checking has continued and my ISO's md5sum matched the one listed
[06:20] <fistandantilus> the problem is you didnt speel breezy right LOL
[06:21] <fistandantilus> spell even
[06:21] <shawnie> Does anyone have any idea why when I unplug the mains my computer shuts down?
[06:21] <Warbo> lmao
[06:21] <Paladine> hey it is the evil wizard
[06:21] <Kumo> Frankenstein: I did the tail -f /var/log/messages but no changes
[06:21] <fistandantilus> Paladine: ;)
[06:21] <Paladine> :)
[06:21] <Warbo> shawnie: Your capacitors aren't big enough
[06:22] <nalioth> ro: please don't paste in here, it doesn't help anything
[06:22] <nalioth> !tell ro about pastebin
[06:22] <shawnie> No. It used to go to standby mode in Windows.
[06:22] <Warbo> ro: You put "brezy" not "breezy"
[06:22] <ro> oh k
[06:23] <fistandantilus> when in doubt check your syntax i've found that is a linux golden rule ;)
[06:23] <NeoThermic> shawnie: by chance, are you not telling us that you have a UPS or some form of battery backup supply to the computer between it and the mains?
[06:23] <Warbo> fistandantilus: And never check what the "syntax error" message tells you to, because the problem is ALWAYS further up :)
[06:23] <shawnie> No. Jusdt the mains and the laptop.
[06:23] <ro> i think there are some changes on theyr website
[06:23] <fistandantilus> Warbo: lol ;)
[06:24] <NeoThermic> shawnie: ahh, set the power properties to do the action you wish?
[06:24] <shawnie> When I unplug the mains the battery should take over but instead it just shuts down.
[06:24] <shawnie> Where?
[06:24] <warlocky> !pastebin
[06:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:24] <Warbo> shawnie: Oh, you were serious? (sorry, I have a laptop but it's battery is pathetic, so pulling power kills the machine)
[06:24] <shawnie> LOL
[06:25] <NeoThermic> fistandantilus: I thought the first rule of linux was "if there's an error, find your nearest emergancy exit" ?
[06:25] <foxpaul> hi all, does anyone know how to tell 'find' to only search for folder names?
[06:25] <fistandantilus> NeoThermic: i think thats the first rule of airplanes haha
[06:25] <NeoThermic> shawnie: uhh, under the system menu, there's something like power options or similar.
[06:25] <shawnie> It is set. It just still shuts down.
[06:25] <foxpaul> there's a type argument, but i don't know the parameter to pass to it
[06:25] <NeoThermic> fistandantilus: aha! I knew I was confused!
[06:25] <Warbo> NeoThermic: no, it's "Rebooting will probably help, but don't because that's a Windows technique"
[06:26] <NeoThermic> heh
[06:26] <fistandantilus> yeah i tend to find the opposite with linux
[06:26] <fistandantilus> run it as long as possible as rebooting may change something ;)
[06:26] <shawnie> Am I basically barking up the wrong tree trying to make this work as a first time user?
[06:26] <NeoThermic> well, I must say, the first lockup I've had on any OS this year was just now from ubuntu
[06:26] <NeoThermic> and I run windows all the time; this is my first dabble in ubuntu :P
[06:26] <Warbo> Well I have often screwed up a system so it won't boot, but have happily run it for ages without needing to reboot, so that's OK
[06:27] <Warbo> Luckily I now boot from CD, so my bootup is write protected :)
[06:27] <NeoThermic> ooh
[06:27] <fistandantilus> its just hard for an open source OS to encompass all the hardware thats out there so it works flawlessy out of the box .. it did for me but i mean give ubuntu credit you can run it on a 386 or the newest machine out there, last i checked XP wasnt running on 386s heh
[06:27] <NeoThermic> it started with sound!
[06:28] <NeoThermic> hehe
[06:28] <twopeak> question: how to make the ubuntu updater stop wanting to update gnome-screensaver?
[06:28] <Warbo> XP doesn't run on PPC either
[06:28] <XplOzIon> Tcl cannot be found on this system. <-- What are the rights TcL to be installed to make it work, im settings up an eggdrop bot
[06:28] <Warbo> or SPARc, etc.
[06:28] <fistandantilus> Warbo: true
[06:28] <NeoThermic> fistandantilus: I got XP working fine on a P1 :P
[06:28] <Warbo> XplOzIon: Maybe you need some -dev packages?
[06:28] <Frankenstein> linux isnt click and work either... i spend a good 10 hours setting up my system so i could easily go to site like youtube, google video, have sound mixing, display is perfect etc
[06:29] <NeoThermic> I'm damn sure I could get it working on a 386; I just lack a 386 to try it on :\
[06:29] <XplOzIon> Warbo: let me check
[06:29] <x12385> hey
[06:29] <x12385> how do i make a bootable image to load ubuntu ?
[06:29] <BockBilbo> hello anyone from turkey here?
[06:29] <fistandantilus> regardless if you got it on there it would crawl
[06:29] <x12385> how do i make a bootable image to load ubuntu ?
[06:29] <shawnie> So unless I'm going to spend 10 hours working on it (the fact i have no idea what to do) i'm screwed?
[06:29] <kenkku> alright, just installed ubuntu and X didn't start.. says "no screens found"
[06:29] <ro> could some body connect to my computer and help me with upgrading to breezy?
[06:29] <x12385> how do i make a bootable image to load ubuntu ?
[06:29] <fistandantilus> x12385: download the iso and burn it on a cd
[06:29] <Warbo> x12385: What kind? An emulator image, a CD image, a floppy?
[06:29] <fistandantilus> !repeat
[06:29] <BockBilbo> an spanish footballer webside that uses mambo has been hacked by a turkish, i need some one to tell me what it says
[06:29] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:30] <Fracture> hi, how do I tell which video driver is currently beign used ?  I have multiple ServerLayout sections in xorg.conf soI want to know which one is being used
[06:30] <BockBilbo> *someone
[06:30] <Frankenstein> shawnie, http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm read that
[06:30] <kenkku> !patience
[06:30] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:30] <NeoThermic> fistandantilus: nah. the 200MHz was fast enough; 66 shouldn't be too bad. Just about a third slower. Can't be any worse than my sisters install of XP :P
[06:30] <x12385> firstknight i did that
[06:30] <Spec> Can anyone recommend a good GPL network vulnerability scanner?
[06:30] <x12385> but it doesnt boot up when the CD boots up
[06:30] <dr_willis> BockBilbo,  use that bablefish web site to translate
[06:30] <seth> What is the command to install apps. I am having the worst time figuring it out
[06:30] <fistandantilus> NeoThermic: gah i couldnt deal with that
[06:30] <Warbo> Fracture: You could try lsmod, if there is only one display driver then that is the one you're using
[06:30] <Spec> seth: apt-get install <prog>, or just run 'synpatic'
[06:30] <jpjacobs> Spec nmap
[06:30] <Frankenstein> seth, apt-get install ?
[06:30] <XplOzIon> Warbo: thanks, i was missing a dev package
[06:30] <Warbo> seth: sudo aptitude install packagename
[06:30] <Spec> jpjacobs: other than nmap :p
[06:30] <fistandantilus> x12385: you have the cd set to boot before hdd in your bios?
[06:30] <jpjacobs> Spec, nessus
[06:30] <x12385> ye
[06:30] <BockBilbo> dr_willis, babblefish doesn have turkish
[06:30] <Spec> is nessus gpl?
[06:31] <seth> What if I download something from a site
[06:31] <jpjacobs> right... dunno
[06:31] <Spec> it looks closed
[06:31] <mrPolite> seth: depends on teh program
[06:31] <fistandantilus> seth: if its a .deb and your in gnome double click it, if its .tar.gz its most likely source and needs to be compiled
[06:31] <Warbo> x12385: You have written it as an image, and not as a single file?
[06:31] <seth> I am looking for a good Podcast Client
[06:31] <kenkku> ok, I'll add that I just installed ubuntu 5.10
[06:31] <twopeak> does somebody know how to make the ubuntu updater stop wanting to update gnome-screensaver?
[06:31] <aep> any ideas why my Horiz/Vert settings in xorg.conf are ignored with ubuntu's X server but work fine on any other distri ?
[06:31] <seth> Anything good you know of??
[06:31] <mrPolite> first you usually have to make it executable by doing chmod +x <nameofapp.bin>
[06:31] <Warbo> seth: Amarok, Rhythmbox, there are loads
[06:31] <seth> Thanks
[06:32] <fistandantilus> twopeak: lock the package in synaptic
[06:32] <BalNdaR> where can i get ubuntu kernel source?
[06:32] <Spec> seth: songbird, but i think it's alpha quality
[06:32] <mrPolite> then you can run it by doing ./nameofapp.bin
[06:32] <fistandantilus> from the repos
[06:32] <shawnie> Right
[06:32] <Spec> BalNdaR: apt-cache search kernel source probably
[06:32] <oche> ola
[06:32] <Fracture> Warbo: taa
[06:32] <jrattner1> QUESTION: Anyone sync a Treo 700p and dapper yet?
[06:32] <shawnie> I'm off to re install windows and give up on this.
[06:32] <mrPolite> songbird is nice, but barely useable on linux right now
[06:33] <shawnr_> shawnie, whats the problem
[06:33] <ToRTuReD_X> well anyone still got that auto mount script link?
[06:33] <Frankenstein>  shawnie it just takes time
[06:33] <twopeak> fistandantile thanks.
[06:33] <shawnie> I installed Ubuntu on my toshiba laptop today.
[06:33] <Frankenstein> shawnie, take it one step at a time
[06:33] <shawnr_> shawnie ok
[06:33] <kenkku> how can I add my screen?
[06:33] <fistandantilus> twopeak: you find it in the menu? np
[06:33] <shawnie> The touchpad doesn't work and the power management thing is screwed.
[06:33] <jrattner1> ToRTuReD_X search the wiki for NTFS its there
[06:33] <kenkku> because X says none found
[06:33] <Fracture> does the nv driver use a kernel module ?
[06:33] <jrattner1> yes
[06:33] <shawnr_> what laptop
[06:33] <shawnr_> model i mean
[06:34] <Warbo> kenkku: That is probably because a driver has failed to load (the river doesn't load, the screen cannot load, no screens found)
[06:34] <Warbo> *driver
[06:34] <twopeak> fistandantile yes, it seems like it worked.
[06:34] <kenkku> Warbo: well, I just installed this..
[06:34] <kenkku> and I tried rebooting too
[06:34] <Warbo> kenkku: Installed what?
[06:34] <Frankenstein> shawnie, maybe this will help :P https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[06:34] <kenkku> Warbo: ubuntu 5.10 :P
[06:34] <shawnr_> shawnie, what model it the toshiba
[06:34] <BalNdaR> what is the difference between kernel source ant kernel headers?
[06:34] <Warbo> kenkku: Oh :) (thought you meant a driver)
[06:35] <shawnie> It's a P10
[06:35] <ToRTuReD_X> jrattner1, heh not there >_<
[06:35] <jrattner1> ToRTuReD_X hold on
[06:35] <Warbo> BalNdaR: Kernel source need to be compiled, kernel headers are for the kernel you are running (also the newer kernels are called linux-source and linux-headers)
[06:35] <kenkku> Warbo: any idea what it could be? really weird, it's a new installation and I haven't done a thing yet :S
[06:36] <jrattner1> ToRTuReD_X https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[06:36] <ToRTuReD_X> woot
[06:36] <ToRTuReD_X> thanks
[06:36] <jrattner1> welcome
[06:36] <Warbo> kenkku: Try in a text console "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and choose some options for your display (use ati driver if you have an ati card, and nv if you have an nvidia [DON'T use nvidia driver, use nv] )
[06:38] <shawnr_> Is there a nice IDE that can be used for bash scripting? (and no, not gedit lol)
[06:38] <ToRTuReD_X> woo you're a life saver jrattner1
[06:38] <aep>  any ideas why my Horiz/Vert settings in xorg.conf are ignored with ubuntu's X server but work fine on any other distri ?
[06:38] <Warbo> shawnr_: What could you want besides a text editor? It's not as if bash uses a GUI
[06:39] <shawnr_> Warbo, i dunno... nothing really. just wondering ;)
[06:39] <ToRTuReD_X> jrattner1, any ideas on making my permissions read/write on an ntfs disk?
[06:39] <Warbo> !ntfs
[06:39] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[06:39] <Warbo> !fuse
[06:39] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[06:39] <jrattner1> ToRTuReD_X: yeh i can point you in that direction but making NTFS writable is DANGEROUS
[06:39] <BalNdaR> where can i get this package: kernel-source-2.6.15-23-386?
[06:40] <jrattner1> ToRTuReD_X: but someone stable
[06:40] <ToRTuReD_X> oh?
[06:40] <ToRTuReD_X> how so?
[06:40] <aujordanh> !xgl
[06:40] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:40] <fistandantilus> the repos
[06:40] <shawnie> Right.
[06:40] <Warbo> BalNdaR: It will be "linux-source-2.6.15" (a) always linux-source b) minor versions don't mean anything to source code)
[06:40] <shawnie> I'm off then. Thanks very much everyone.
[06:40] <TheGame> hey
[06:40] <jrattner1> ToRTuReD_X: you could experience data corruptions, its safest to use NTFS as a read only file system unless u really need it to be writable
[06:40] <aujordanh> is compiz worth it?
[06:40] <jrattner1> compiz is fun
[06:40] <Warbo> I don't think so
[06:40] <TheGame> yes
[06:40] <TheGame> its awesome
[06:41] <ToRTuReD_X> oh ok
[06:41] <fistandantilus> its alpha and it breaks, id say no
[06:41] <jrattner1> compiz is awsome but unstable
[06:41] <ToRTuReD_X> .. i can't take the disk out when using ubuntu live can i?
[06:41] <TheGame> it depends on ur setup i guess
[06:41] <aujordanh> is it efficient or eyecandy?
[06:41] <Warbo> I don't like it, even if it were stable
[06:41] <TheGame> eyecandy
[06:41] <jrattner1> ToRTuReD_X: nope : )
[06:41] <fistandantilus> eyecandy
[06:41] <kenkku> Warbo: no luck, still says the same :(
[06:41] <TheGame> but that also depends on the user
[06:41] <ToRTuReD_X> :/
[06:41] <aujordanh> thank you
[06:41] <TheGame> my compiz setup hasnt given me errors yet
[06:41] <Warbo> kenkku: Sorry, I'm not an expert in these things :(
[06:41] <ToRTuReD_X> well time to take my pc apart and set my main drive as a secondary for format
[06:41] <TheGame> except for this one minor thing that im not sure how to fix
[06:42] <shawnie> Anyone any ideas?
[06:42] <tcpip> i installed ubuntu.. did everything as asked.. 2 partitions one for / and other swap.. no errors during installations.. and instead of giving me options which OS to boot it booted my original xp installation.. what went wrong
[06:42] <kenkku> 3rd time something doesn't work today.. looks like I can forget about linux for some time
[06:42] <Warbo> tcpip: XP is hogging the MBR. You need to reinstall GRUB
[06:42] <fistandantilus> haha
[06:42] <kenkku> windows better work or.. grrr :P
[06:42] <Warbo> !grub > tcpip
[06:42] <fistandantilus> wow people have no patience getting an OS to work
[06:42] <shawnie> That's true.
[06:42] <ic56> groken: the \( ... \) stores
[06:42] <jrattner1> fistandantilus people are use to instant satisfaction
[06:42] <Thor2> !grub > thor
[06:43] <Thor2> !grub > thor2
[06:43] <shawnie> Right. I'm off for windows.
[06:43] <fistandantilus> this isnt windows, if you wanted it working off the bat im sorry thats not linux yet
[06:43] <Warbo> Xp usually "works" after installation, but it still takes weeks to get it fully usable (Firefox, plugins, DLLs, etc.)
[06:43] <shawnie> Yeah
[06:43] <aep>  any ideas why my Horiz/Vert settings in xorg.conf are ignored with ubuntu's X server but work fine on any other distri ?
[06:43] <dr_willis> ive rarey had things 'just work' under windows  either. :P
[06:43] <effer> Warbo, yeah, not to mention all the windows updates
[06:43] <shawnie> But At least my touchpad works!
[06:43] <effer> hotfixes etc
[06:43] <fistandantilus> dr_willis: i was just about to say that
[06:43] <TheGame> anybody use cgwd?
[06:43] <dr_willis> but we dont want to get that started. :P
[06:44] <Thor2> in the network install howto, it does not tell me where to put the ubuntu image, what do I do with it ?
[06:44] <fistandantilus> yeah that convo needs to be put to bed ;)
[06:44] <Warbo> shawnie: But h4X0rZ only use keyboards, everyone knows that :)
[06:44] <jrattner1> hahah
[06:44] <jrattner1> i love it :)
[06:44] <shawnie> Eh?
[06:44] <Megaqwerty> Why can't I make a logical partition using the built in partition editor? (I don't remember what it's called sorry)
[06:44] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i setup ssh connection with my 2 box?
[06:45] <fistandantilus> !ssh
[06:45] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[06:45] <MetaMorfoziS> i can ssh from a to b
[06:45] <Warbo> Megaqwerty: Do you mean LVM?
[06:45] <MetaMorfoziS> but i can't from b to a
[06:45] <MetaMorfoziS> a: 192.168.1.101 b: 192.168.1.102 (local ips)
[06:45] <fistandantilus> MetaMorfoziS: are you running the ssh server on both?
[06:45] <MetaMorfoziS> yes
[06:45] <Megaqwerty> I can only make a primary, and an extended partition
[06:45] <MetaMorfoziS> ssh 127.0.0.1 is working fine
[06:45] <MetaMorfoziS> both
[06:45] <shawnie> LL
[06:45] <dr_willis> Megaqwerty,  you make an extended.. then make a logical In the extended
[06:45] <shawnie> LOL
[06:46] <shawnie> If I install windows....can I make it look like Ubuntu? LOL
[06:46] <Warbo> Megaqwerty: Make sure you apply your changes before trying to make logical partitions inside the extended one
[06:46] <Warbo> shawnie: I saw a Human/Clearlooks theme for Windows on DeviantArt a while ago (looking for themes for WINE)
[06:46] <MetaMorfoziS> fistandantilus: no where a connection setupper? or tester?
[06:46] <Frankenstein> shawnie, yep, windowblinds, litestep et
[06:46] <Frankenstein> shawnie, yep, windowblinds, litestep etc*
[06:46] <MetaMorfoziS> a and b are connected in a router
[06:46] <fistandantilus> MetaMorfoziS: not really, you can ping b to a though?
[06:47] <jrattner1> shawnie: why not just get your touchpad to work
[06:47] <shawnie> How?
[06:47] <MetaMorfoziS> yes
[06:47] <shawnie> LOL
[06:47] <jrattner1> shawnie: you have a Toshiba P10 correct?
[06:47] <shawnie> Yeah
[06:47] <niall> hey guys has anyone figured out what to do with films that are downloaded as .bin/.cue
[06:47] <albacker> where is the tuto for playing realmedia, avi, mpg's, mpegs, mp3z ?
[06:47] <jrattner1> shawnie is that the full model name
[06:47] <fistandantilus> MetaMorfoziS: the connection times out when you try b to a or your getting an error or what?
[06:47] <shawnie> I guess not.
[06:47] <fistandantilus> niall: use bchunk and convert it
[06:47] <MetaMorfoziS> nothing do anything
[06:48] <dr_willis> niall,  those are cd/dvd image files.
[06:48] <MetaMorfoziS> i press enter, a line break and no other
[06:48] <Megaqwerty> I'm trying to install the latest version off the live cd, so I need to make a partition for the install, a partition for my shared space (I'm doing a dual boot install) and a partition for the swap area. Do I make one extended partition with all the free space, and then make logical partitions in there?
[06:48] <jrattner1> shawnie: for example there is a p10-554 etc... etc...
[06:48] <shawnie> Oh...erm...how can I tell.
[06:48] <niall> what is the most straight forward way of burning them not using bchunk on the cli
[06:48] <Megaqwerty> (for the shared and swap area)
[06:48] <albacker> guys where can i find the tutorial for playin avi, mpg, mpegs, mp3s etc ?
[06:48] <Thor2> !install
[06:48] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[06:48] <tcpip> Warbo found this >GRUB Installer for Windows.. will it do the same job
[06:49] <fistandantilus> MetaMorfoziS: without an error or knowing if its timing out its hard to decipher the problem
[06:49] <Megaqwerty> thanks
[06:49] <MetaMorfoziS> yes
[06:49] <jrattner1> shawnie: i dont know i have a HP : )
 search google for unofficial ubuntu wiki
[06:49] <fistandantilus> albacker; wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:49] <shawnie> Ah
[06:49] <MetaMorfoziS> it
[06:49] <MetaMorfoziS> meta@sapro:~$ ssh 192.168.1.101
[06:49] <MetaMorfoziS> no other
[06:49] <shawnie> Shit. I'm so pissed off with this. LOL
[06:49] <albacker> fistandantilus, thanks ;)
[06:49] <lzap> hello, I have upgraded my motherboard and CPU and now I have Athlon 64. is it possible to upgrade whole distro to 64bit platform?
[06:49] <jrattner1> shawnie you need to find out the model number in order for me to help you
[06:49] <shawnie> The website said it'd be really easy to use.
 how can they be dvd image files when not even k3b will recognise them
[06:50] <fistandantilus> lzap: with a reinstall yes, otherwise no
[06:50] <dr_willis> lzap,  at this time theres still a few little issues with usinga  a 64bit distro
[06:50] <jrattner1> 64 bit eeek
[06:50] <fistandantilus> niall: its the format its in thats why k3b wont recognize
[06:50] <jrattner1> 32 > 64
[06:50] <dr_willis> niall,  i seem to recall using k3b to burn cue/bin files.
[06:50] <dr_willis> but i normally convert them to iso
[06:50] <MetaMorfoziS> so fistandantilus no way to solve it?
[06:50] <lzap> dr_willis, so you suggest to stay at 32 bits and wait for next release?
 can u walk me through converting/burning
[06:51] <fistandantilus> MetaMorfoziS: sorry without an error i dont know what to do really
[06:51] <dr_willis> lzap,  depends on your needs.  64bit support is geting better.. but theres still a lot of little issues.. depends on what progams you use on a daily basis
[06:51] <aep> why does Xorg ( only the org of ubuntu) ognore any vert/refresh  settings in xorg.conf  ( i didnt start any thnird party programm with Xorg, just the pure Xorg is configured with 75Hz and starts with 85)
[06:51] <fistandantilus> niall: i dont burn on cli, install bchunk, its as straightforward as it gets, and burn with k3b/whatever
[06:51] <MetaMorfoziS> wghat is the name the ssh server?
[06:51] <MetaMorfoziS> i want to reconfigure it
[06:51] <dr_willis> opensshd
[06:51] <MetaMorfoziS> of+ g-
[06:52] <jrattner1> shawnie: http://www.kroon.co.za/howto.php?howto=toshiba_p10 this is an article on how to get your touchpad to work
[06:52] <dr_willis> !info opensshd
[06:52] <ubotu> Package opensshd does not exist in dapper
[06:52] <dr_willis> !info openssh
[06:52] <ubotu> Package openssh does not exist in dapper
 has to be used on the cli
[06:52] <dr_willis> grrr...
[06:52] <dr_willis> ok what ((@@ name did they give it now.
[06:52] <dr_willis> !search sshd
[06:52] <ubotu> Found nothing
 sorry bchunk has to be used on the cli
[06:52] <MetaMorfoziS> hm
[06:52] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm isntalled only ssh
[06:52] <MetaMorfoziS> sudo apt-get install ssh
[06:52] <dr_willis> !info ssh
[06:52] <ubotu> ssh: Secure shell client and server (transitional package). In repository main, is optional. Version 1:4.2p1-7ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1 kB, installed size 32 kB
[06:52] <MetaMorfoziS> to get it work
[06:52] <fistandantilus> niall: bchunk is cli
[06:52] <Megaqwerty> where do I get the install guide for Dapper Drake?
[06:52] <dr_willis> lol... they got a package that installs both. :P
[06:53] <shawnie> It's the P10 204
[06:53] <dr_willis>  (transitional package)
[06:53] <shawnie> I believe.
[06:53] <jrattner1> shawnie ok hold on
[06:53] <aep>  why does Xorg ( only the xorg of ubuntu) ignore any vert/refresh  settings in xorg.conf  ( i didnt start any thnird party programm with Xorg, just the pure Xorg is configured with 75Hz and starts with 85)
[06:53] <shawnie> thaqnks
 This requires alot of mucking around with cli which i dont mind but this is a client who i recommend use ubuntu, keep it human guys
[06:54] <dr_willis> :P
[06:54] <fistandantilus> niall: you obviosuly havent used it as it is a one line command bchunk blah.bin blah.iso
[06:54] <fistandantilus> how much more human do you want
[06:54] <ArRiEsP> is there any spanish chanel of ubuntu?
[06:54] <AMDXP> hello folks
[06:54] <fistandantilus> !es
[06:54] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:54] <erUSUL> !fixres > aep
 if its that simple why dont u walk me through
[06:55] <fistandantilus> niall: OMG why do you need to me walked through a one line command?
[06:55] <dr_willis> bchunk blah.bin blah.iso  seems rather simple to me...
[06:55] <ArRiEsP> gracias
[06:55] <Megaqwerty> where do I get the install guide for Dapper Drake?
so u dont want to help.....Next
[06:55] <h3h_timo> does anyone know of a screen recording program for dapper????
[06:55] <fistandantilus> sudo apt-get install bchunk, bchunk blah.bin blah.iso , burn in a burning program
[06:55] <aep> erUSUL: i'm not a noob dont make me angry
[06:56] <fistandantilus> i dont know how its explained any simpler
[06:56] <thechitowncubs> whats the best way to run samba, inetd, or daemons?
[06:56] <VIMmer> hi, i am on dapper. how do i tell linux to boot xmms when i log in?
[06:56] <jrattner1> shawnie: In order to get your touchpad to work you need to boot the kernel WITHOUT ACPI support (common laptop issue)
[06:56] <shawnie> How do I do that?
[06:56] <thechitowncubs> VIMmer: system>administration>session
im not looking for this for myself its someone very new and cli is no go
 where do the 2 files 1 bin 1 cue fit into this wonderful command of urs
[06:57] <fistandantilus> niall: i know of no gui for converting so your out of luck then
[06:57] <VIMmer> hi, how do i tell linux to launch xmms when i log in?
[06:57] <Thor2> in the network install howto, it does not tell me where to put the ubuntu image, what do I do with it ?
[06:57] <Frostyx> Anyone knows a way to automatically execute a script when a file is created in a directory?
[06:57] <fistandantilus> niall: the cue sheet is pointless once its converted to iso, *sigh*
[06:57] <Megaqwerty> where do I get the installation guide for Dapper Drake?
[06:57] <fistandantilus> !install
[06:57] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[06:58] <aep>  why does Xorg ( only the xorg of ubuntu) ignore any vert/refresh  settings in xorg.conf  ( i didnt start any thnird party programm with Xorg, just the pure Xorg is configured with 75Hz and starts with 85)
 listen mate i really dont know what that command means nor do i have any idea what way your trying to explain
[06:58] <shawnie> Hey jrattner1 thanks for your help. Can you tell me how to do it?
[06:58] <ubunewbi1> hello.  i can't get my wireless card to associate.  it recognizes networks but won't connect with them, crashing out at 28% of "Configuring Device."  It wono't go all the way.  I think it has something to do with iwconfig saying "not associated."  pastebin is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19934
[06:58] <fistandantilus> niall: i dont know how to explain it any easier its two simple one line commands that ive already typed twice to install and convert
[06:59] <jrattner1> shawnie: first type: sudo nano /boot/grub/manu.lst (be carefull editing this file) only do what i tell you to do
[06:59] <nexact> Hey all, I'm trying to launch anything .. it's loading but nothing appear.. anyone know how to fix this bug? I don't want to reboot
[06:59] <jrattner1> shawnie: tell me when u have it open
well then what order do i do it what file do i use in the command what
[06:59] <shawnie> OK
[06:59] <shawnie> I'm in.
[07:00] <jrattner1> shawnie:
[07:00] <jrattner1> Find the line that starts with "#kopt" or "Kopts" and add at the end these options:
[07:00] <jrattner1> apm=off acpi=off
 listen man can we pm
[07:00] <fistandantilus> niall: ive already told you all the commands and the syntax and you wouldnt listen. maybe the next person that tries and helps you'll have more respect for
[07:00] <shawnie> It's a blank thing.
[07:00] <jrattner1> shawnie: thats fine
[07:00] <jrattner1> shawnie: just add it there and then save the file
 your assuming that i know what all this means English please
[07:01] <niall> what do i do with the bin file
[07:01] <niall> what do i do with the cue file
[07:01] <aep>  why does Xorg ( only the xorg of ubuntu) ignore any vert/refresh  settings in xorg.conf  ( i didnt start any thnird party programm with Xorg, just the pure Xorg is configured with 75Hz and starts with 85)  and i am not a noob i know howto set up X and everything
[07:01] <fistandantilus> niall: have you installed bchunk?
[07:01] <niall> its a simle question
[07:01] <jrattner1> niall excute it! ./file.bin
[07:01] <niall> yep
[07:01] <niall> latest i think
[07:01] <fistandantilus> niall: so open a terminal, go to the directory the bin is in, and type 'bchunk'
[07:02] <thechitowncubs> Can anyone assist me in troubleshooting my samba network setup
[07:02] <thechitowncubs> It broke recently with the updates
[07:02] <MetaMorfoziS> hej fistandantilus! it says ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.101 port 22: Connection timed out
[07:02] <MetaMorfoziS> after 2 minutes
[07:02] <MetaMorfoziS> :D
[07:02] <jrattner1> heheh 2mins
[07:02] <fistandantilus> niall: gives you the syntax right there 'bchunk foo.bin foo.cue foo'
[07:02] <jrattner1> shawnie: got it?
[07:02] <Megaqwerty> How do I install Dapper drake from the live cd?
[07:02] <niall> k 1 sec gonna try
[07:03] <Megaqwerty> (without formatting the drive
[07:03] <Megaqwerty> )
[07:03] <fistandantilus> MetaMorfoziS: and you said you can ssh in on that machine so the port is open .. have you messed with your firewalls at all?
[07:03] <jrattner1> shawnie: actually add acpi=no acpi=off apm=off to that line
[07:03] <erUSUL> Megaqwerty: iirc there is an icon in the desktop that says Install
[07:04] <MetaMorfoziS> probably possible...
[07:04] <Megaqwerty> nm, I think i figured out what I wanted
[07:04] <shawnie> How do I save it? LOL
[07:04] <shawnie> I'm such a beginner at this.
[07:05] <MetaMorfoziS> you notmay write after all your lines "LOL" it's annoying a lilbit
[07:05] <jrattner1> shawnie: hit Control X then hit y to confirm the save
[07:05] <fistandantilus> MetaMorfoziS: if you've used firestarter or some iptables front end or edited iptables yourself i would check to see that a is accepting ssh connection on the port from b ..
[07:05] <shawnie> OK
[07:05] <shawnie> So now I just restart and it should work?
sorry man i aint slow but this makes absolutely no sense
[07:05] <jrattner1> shawnie: no
[07:05] <fistandantilus> niall: what doesnt?
[07:05] <jrattner1> shawnie: now type: sudo update-grub
[07:06] <MetaMorfoziS> i have firestarter
 where can i paste what im doing
[07:06] <shawnie> Done
[07:06] <MetaMorfoziS> but i dunno what i changed in that
[07:06] <jrattner1> shawnie: does it give you any errors?
[07:06] <fistandantilus> !pastebin
[07:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:06] <shawnie> Not that I can see
[07:06] <jrattner1> shawnie: restart and tell me hows things go
[07:06] <shawnie> OK
[07:06] <Frostyx> !inotify
[07:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about inotify - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:06] <shawnie> Hopefully see you in a minute.
[07:07] <ubunewbi1> hello, anyone willing to help me with a wireless problem?  can't get this to associate.
[07:07] <fistandantilus> niall: paste.ubuntu-nl.org, then give me the address
[07:07] <niall> k
[07:07] <eugman> http://pastebin.com/764791 YARD isn't working right. HELP!
[07:07] <fistandantilus> MetaMorfoziS: maybe try adding a policy in firestarter to accept incoming connection on that port? thats all i can guess, honestly ssh worked out of the box for me
[07:08] <niall> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19936
[07:08] <linux_manju> niall: Is it a single PC firewall or You have a LAN to deal with?
[07:08] <MetaMorfoziS> thx... i
 for what burning dvds
[07:09] <niall> ?
[07:09] <ephesius> how do you exit a channel in bitchx but stay on any other open channels?
[07:09] <linux_manju> niall: oops.. sorry ... Messed up.. was on #iptables
[07:09] <shawnie> Hey. It didn't work. LOL
[07:09] <fistandantilus> niall: you cant type spaces in linux you need qoutation marks around your file names, or rename it
 no probs
[07:10] <erUSUL> ephesius: /leave? /part?
[07:10] <esperegu> saluton chiuj.
[07:10] <jrattner1> fistandantilus what about escaping with backslashes :)
[07:10] <fistandantilus> jrattner1: im not even going down that road right now ;)
[07:10] <jrattner1> heheh
[07:10] <ephesius> erUSUL: nope didnt work
[07:11] <shawnie> I think I'll go back to Windows.
ok ill rename any suggestions of what both files should be called respectively
[07:11] <shawnie> Then make it look like Uuntu.
[07:11] <jrattner1> shawnie: still didnt work?
[07:11] <esperegu> I am trying to upgrade to 6.06 with the update manager. but I keep getting an error that a zip subprocess is failing on Sources.gz . any suggestions?
[07:11] <shawnie> Nope.
[07:11] <jrattner1> shawnie you can defineately get it to work, its just a matter of time, and whether your willing to put in the time
[07:11] <fistandantilus> niall: try fear.bin fear.cue .. then do 'bchunk fear.bin fear.cue fear' the last 'fear' is important because thats the name of the iso after it converts
[07:11] <shawnie> I would be but I have no idea what to do.
[07:12] <niall> do i write fear.iso
[07:12] <shawnie> I could spend forever on it but I don't know what to do.LOL
[07:12] <erUSUL> ephesius: well then i would recomend to switch irc client if it does not support such basic irc commands
thanks for ur patience im gonna try
[07:12] <jrattner1> shawnie give me a few more minutes if i can't figure it out by  1:30 then give up
[07:12] <fistandantilus> niall: not needed, it knows what its converting to
[07:12] <server_> Hey how can i reset my Mysql Password (I have no clue what it is.)
[07:12] <niall> kk
[07:12] <shawnie> 1.30? LOL
[07:12] <shawnie> I'm in the U here. LOL
[07:13] <ephesius> erUSUL: do you know of a good command line one because i need to ssh into my server then use irc
[07:13] <shawnie> But that's cool. If you can fix it I'd be very grateful.
[07:13] <wizbowes> hi - having trouble installing dapper on my old IBM T20.  It runs fine from the live disc but fails at 72% when running the installer.  I'm guessing it's a problem with my hard drive.  The installer has reformated this now - so my old windows os is lost.  Any ideas where to start with this?  (this if my first Linux experience)
[07:13] <oskude> server_: try "mysqladmin -u root password yournewpassord"
[07:13] <zazeem> help me please :(
[07:13] <dr_willis> wizbowes,  could try the alterantive/text based installer - it may spit out some more verbose error messates as to whats going wrong.
[07:14] <shawnie> Could you IM me sometime as I need to go make some food but I'll hear it make a noise.
[07:14] <server_> oskude, I Got. mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[07:14] <server_> error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'
[07:14] <zazeem> i cant make any files, i installed all the programs to do it but i aways get the same error after
[07:14] <oskude> server_: with the command i gave ?
[07:15] <server_> oskude, Yeah
[07:15] <Ricesteam> hi, i'm new to linux and I have a question about Gaim
[07:15] <oskude> server_: ah, you need "sudo" for that(i think), sorry
[07:15] <wizbowes> dr willis - thanks - is this is a seperate download from the website is it?  not shown as an option on the opening menu for me...
[07:15] <dr_willis> zazeem,   i think ya need to clarify what you are trying to do.
[07:15] <esperegu> I am trying to upgrade to 6.06 with the update manager. but I keep getting an error that a zip subprocess is failing on Sources.gz . any suggestions?
[07:15] <jrattner1> shawnie you get my message
[07:15] <ttyfscker> i am having some kind of issue with my dvd writer in linux.. i keep getting i/o errors when i try to burn a dvd.. if i burn a cd however it works flawlessly.  can someone help me figure out how to get this fixed?  i have a dell inspiron 6000, and the drive is a sony 20x cdrw 6x dvd +- r(w)    any help?
[07:15] <shawnie> Yeah. You get my reply?
[07:15] <dr_willis> wizbowes,  they got 2 cd's the livecd/installer. and then the Other Alternative installer/cd
[07:16] <jrattner1> shawnie: no
[07:16] <oskude> server_: oh, that works only if theres no password set yet. so you have set a password allready ?
[07:16] <shawnie> Oh
[07:16] <zazeem> dr_willis: making files from archives, i have downloaded simple programs that require to be made usiign make and none work, i think somthing is wrong
[07:16] <shawnie> I said "Sorry?"
[07:16] <dr_willis> wizbowes,  just seems its harder to trouble shoot the livecd's installer.
[07:16] <Ricesteam> does anyone know, in Gaim, how to change the font colors, etc in the conversation windows?
[07:16] <shawnie> Why would you need my username, password and IP address?
[07:16] <server_> oskude, Yeah, but i have no clue what it is..
[07:16] <dr_willis> zazeem,  you are trying to  compile programs from the source code.. You mean to say?
[07:16] <ephesius> Ricesteam: it should be under edit > preferences
[07:16] <jrattner1> shawnie because i was going to modify the /boot/grub/menu.lst file for you because i suspect you did it incorrectly
[07:16] <zazeem> dr_willis: yes
[07:16] <oskude> well, there are ways to "reset" it, try google
[07:17] <Oni-Dracula> has anyone noticed ubuntu starting a hell of a lot speedier than usual?
[07:17] <Warbo> Ricesteam: You can change your own with the little buttons above the text entry box. Other than that you can remove all colours in the preferences (like I do)
[07:17] <jrattner1> shawnie: your pad should work with the kernel running with acpi=off
[07:17] <Oni-Dracula> my system just booted in under 10 seconds
[07:17] <Barnabas> hey guys , I installed ubuntu for my dad, worked like a charm, and suddenly it stopped loading the graphics interface, The login screen works but afterwards all I get as a cursor, no menus etc. , any ideas?
[07:17] <dr_willis> zazeem,  Then why dident ya say so. :P  - First. be sure to 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[07:17] <shawnie> Oh
[07:17] <zazeem> dr_willis: i dont know what it is im a nub :(
[07:17] <dr_willis> zazeem,  then other dev packagtes and libs may be needed - depending on the source
[07:17] <zazeem> ok
[07:17] <shawnie> Well I'm gonna just go back to Windows.
[07:17] <zazeem> thanks :)
[07:17] <server_> oskude, Hello?
[07:17] <shawnie> Thanks anyway though. It's sounding like too much hard work.
[07:17] <jrattner1> shawnie: alright good luck : )
[07:18] <dr_willis> !source
[07:18] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:18] <oskude> server_: yes ?
[07:18] <shawnie> LOL I'm a wimp and used to the Windows thing working.
[07:18] <Bob535> Shawnie, it took me 4 tries to get off windows
[07:18] <jrattner1> well windows is for wimps : ) hehe
[07:18] <server_> oskude, How can i reset my password if its already set?
[07:18] <shawnie> Really?
[07:18] <jrattner1> it took me like 6
[07:18] <Oni-Dracula> hmm there was a recent update to ubuntu common and the kernel... maybe that sped things up
[07:18] <oskude> server_: try google
[07:18] <shawnie> Why did you keep trying?
[07:18] <Spec> have you used windows, shawnie?
[07:18] <jrattner1> i kept trying cause i knew there was something better
[07:18] <Bob535> Because linux keeps getting better
[07:19] <server_> oskude, tried that already...
[07:19] <shawnie> Yeah
[07:19] <jrattner1> shawnie: you'll get it, maybe your just not ready yet
[07:19] <oskude> server_: hmm...
[07:19] <fistandantilus> there's a fun level with working on linux for alot of ppl
[07:19] <polpak> server_: restart in recovery mode, and at the root prompt type passwd myuser
[07:19] <shawnie> I want to swap but something so simple like a touchpad really doesn't fill me with confidence.
[07:19] <Bob535> each time i tried i got slightly better at figuring things out, eventually it just all works for me
[07:19] <jrattner1> the fun is getting things tyo work : )
[07:19] <Barnabas> ...
[07:19] <polpak> shawnie: blame the HW manufacturer
[07:19] <fistandantilus> jrattner1: depending on who you are .. we dont mind, to others its a nightmare
[07:19] <server_> polpak, ....
[07:20] <jrattner1> fistandantilus true
[07:20] <Ricesteam> thank you all!
[07:20] <oskude> server_: this is what i get with google as first answer :/ http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html
[07:20] <wizbowes> cheers dr w - I'll get in downloading the other right now.
[07:20] <fistandantilus> honestly toshiba laptops have bad history with linux detecting thier devices, even on the old ones, i used to have one
[07:20] <polpak> shawnie: it's not linuxes fault if your hw manufacturer doesn't either make drivers for linux OR open the spec for the hardware so someone else can
[07:20] <server_> oskude, I was there. Didnt get it to work
[07:20] <oskude> server_: then try the next "howto"
[07:20] <chollis> server sudo passwd root
[07:20] <shawnie> So there's a chance it'll never work?
[07:21] <polpak> chollis: root doesn't have a password
[07:21] <Bob535> always a chance something will never work
[07:21] <shawnie> Right
[07:21] <fistandantilus> shawnie: oh im sure with time and patience you could get it working now, but out of the box working maybe not
[07:21] <polpak> chollis: the root user is disabled
[07:21] <oskude> server_: does this work ? http://www.megalinux.net/archives/000183.html
[07:21] <shawnie> I'm off to windows then. LOL
[07:21] <dr_willis> polpak,  that sets one for root.
[07:21] <shawnie> Thanks for the advice and help anyway guys.
[07:21] <chollis> replace root with your username
[07:21] <polpak> dr_willis: I know, but it's not recommended
[07:21] <polpak> shawnie: eh.. yeah, good luck with that
[07:22] <dr_willis> polpak,   then tell them that. :P its not really disabled. Its just got no password by default..   We had a huge argument over this a few weeks ago in here. :)
[07:22] <chollis> works on most any debian based systems
[07:22] <fistandantilus> lol i remember that
[07:23] <burhan> has the wwdc keynote already started?
[07:23] <Trae> Anyone use this with Ubuntu?  http://www.realistanew.com/projects/alacarte/
 hey man I renamed the files fear.bin and fear.cue although the terminal is still reporting the old names
[07:23] <m4rk> how do i format a usb drive in ubuntu?:(
[07:23] <Trae> it won't install... I get this error: http://pastebin.ca/120915
[07:24] <fistandantilus> niall: i doubt you actually rename them then, if terminal is showing the old names
[07:24] <burhan> Trae: its already in ubuntu
[07:24] <oskude> Trae: did you do "sudo apt-get install alacarte" ?
[07:24] <server_> oskude, Should i just type "mysqld --skip
[07:24] <fistandantilus> Trae: you do know ala carte comes installed by default in dapper?
[07:24] <Trae> 0.8
[07:24] <Trae> not 0.9
[07:24] <polpak> m4rk: check the device name with the mount command, unmount it, (don't unplug it) and use mkfs.vfat to format the device
[07:24] <Trae> 0.9 has bug fixes
[07:24] <oskude> server_: dunno
 in my video folder it says the new names in the gui not in terminal
[07:24] <server_> oskude, grant tables
[07:24] <burhan> Trae: what's the difference?
[07:24] <Trae> 0.8 is not scottish... it'd crap
[07:24] <Trae> heh
[07:24] <server_> oskude, Ill try it
[07:25] <polpak> m4rk: you can use a different fs type if you don't need windows interoperability
[07:25] <Trae> 0.8 ala carte is busted in Ubuntu
[07:25] <fistandantilus> niall: start a new terminal and see if the names changed
[07:25] <Trae> in Dapper Drake
[07:25] <fistandantilus> busted? works fine here
[07:25] <finalbeta> So weird, I'm using netbeans (Java IDE), somethimes when I open a dialog box, other windows on the desktop vanish, just now even the GNOME panels vanished.
[07:25] <burhan> busted how?
[07:25] <Thor2> does network install mean it will get the files from the internet ?
[07:25] <polpak> Thor2: usually yes
 still the same man
[07:25] <Trae> it doesn't save names or icons like it's supposed to.
[07:25] <burhan> Thor2: yes, or a local mirror
[07:25] <Thor2> OK
[07:25] <fistandantilus> names and icons work here
[07:25] <Thor2> how do i make a local mirror
[07:25] <Thor2> ???
[07:26] <oskude> Trae: if you got problems with this http://dev.realistanew.com/alacarte/releases/0.9/alacarte_0.9-0ubuntu1~amaranth_all.deb you better report to them
[07:26] <burhan> you want a mirror or a proxy?
[07:26] <m4rk> polpak: hey that works thanks for your help dude
[07:26] <zoredache> Thor2: One nice way is to use something like apt-proxy...
[07:26] <fistandantilus> niall: did you rename in gui or terminal? try renaming in terminal instead, mv 'old long file name.bin" fear.bin
[07:26] <Trae> oskude, http://pastebin.ca/120915
[07:26] <Thor2> I have the dvd iso
[07:26] <Thor2> and two pcs
[07:26] <Trae> oskude, is my syntax wrong?
[07:26] <Thor2> want to install on one
[07:26] <smo> zoredache: will apt-proxy work well with sneakernet?
[07:26] <Trae> oh
 it has to be in those quotes
[07:26] <ubuntulover> Can you use Debian Repositories in Ubuntu?
[07:26] <Thor2> dont have access to cd/dvd drive
[07:26] <Trae> oops
[07:27] <Trae> alacarte_0.9-0ubuntu1~amaranth_all.deb: HTML document text
[07:27] <Trae> *blush*
[07:27] <fistandantilus> niall: the long file name does yes
[07:27] <server_> oskude, I got into my Db. But it needs no password now. How can i get it Set to use a password. And to have that stick that way?
[07:27] <Thor2> I just want to try to install it using my local networ
[07:27] <burhan> ubunewbie: don't do that :)
[07:27] <oskude> Trae: lol... why are you logged in as root ?
 whats the rename command
[07:27] <Trae> oskude, blah, get tired of sudo foo
[07:27] <Thor2> burhan - mirror
[07:27] <MeTa[AwAy] _> can i run an opengl program through ssh from an other machine<
[07:27] <oskude> server_: dunno, ask #mysql
[07:27] <fistandantilus> niall: i just told you, mv
[07:27] <Trae> oskude, you can just sudo su -
[07:27] <MeTa[AwAy] _> ?
[07:27] <Thor2> it connects fine to the internet
[07:27] <Trae> oskude, and run several commands at once
[07:27] <Trae> :)
[07:27] <MeTa[AwAy] _> if in this machine haven't got opengl
[07:27] <burhan> niall: mv
[07:27] <fistandantilus> niall:  mv 'old long file name.bin" fear.bin
[07:27] <niall> mv as in move
[07:28] <MeTa[AwAy] _> so the rendering and calculating are both on the other machine
[07:28] <oskude> Trae: maybe the download was "broke" try download again... do they got md5 sums for that file ?
[07:28] <MeTa[AwAy] _> only the displaying in this
[07:28] <fistandantilus> moving is identical to renaming so they use one command
[07:28] <robertj> BWAAHAA the new powermac is standard with 2x 2.6 dualcore processors & 256 megs of ram
[07:28] <Trae> oskude, yeah it seems busted
[07:28] <Trae> wow
[07:28] <ubuntulover> Can you use Debian Repositories in Ubuntu?
[07:28] <burhan> split?
[07:28] <flodine> what the hell
[07:28] <Geert> nah
[07:28] <robertj> h=ma|2k must be explotiing something
[07:28] <Geert> dcc exploit :)
[07:28] <oskude> ubuntulover: i wouldnt recommend
[07:28] <robertj> I got a malformed DCC request
[07:28] <Trae> umm
[07:29] <zoredache> ubuntulover: Yes, you can point to debian repositories.. You will probably have lots of dependancy issues
[07:29] <finalbeta> Must be a new mirc exploit, or an old one
[07:29] <burhan> don't tell me that exploit is still going around?!
[07:29] <cherwin> crappy modems
[07:29] <polpak> !opts
[07:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about opts - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:29] <burhan> !ops
[07:29] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[07:29] <robertj> met ma|2k out of here
[07:29] <robertj> err get ma|2k out of here
[07:29] <polpak> heh.. damn t
[07:29] <LoRez> burhan: they're getting klined.
[07:29] <burhan> gawd dang
[07:29] <ubuntulover> !voice
[07:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about voice - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:29] <LoRez> finalbeta: router exploit
[07:30] <Thor2> any more info on running a local mirror ?
[07:30] <burhan> I thought freenode did something to avoid this?
[07:30] <finalbeta> LoRez, router exploit?
[07:30] <polpak> burhan: they did
[07:30] <val_sexy> I'm so kewl
[07:30] <nalioth> burhan: watch for the " $NICK has quit [K-lined  "  among all the afflicted
[07:30] <LoRez> burhan: told people to connect to a different port.
[07:30] <dr_willis> wowsers
[07:30] <cherwin> crappy routers, damn
[07:30] <dr_willis> :)
[07:30] <server_> oskude, Its working :)
[07:30] <chollis> that sucks
[07:30] <burhan> Thor2: you could do the 'hack' way and just nfs mount /var/cache/apt/archives from your local server.
[07:30] <oskude> server_: nice!
[07:30] <dr_willis> crappy 'firewall protection featrure' :)
[07:30] <cherwin> haha
[07:31] <burhan> wow excellent protection there.
[07:31] <Geert> :p
[07:31] <burhan> nalioth: I don't see that kline text.
[07:31] <LoRez> <-- [jade]  has quit (K-lined)
[07:31] <burhan> ah there it is.
[07:31] <bbrazil> dr_willis: no, an incorrect D C C nat feature for an edge case
[07:31] <burhan> its scrolling by too fast lol
[07:31] <Wanderer> ugly one there
[07:31] <ephesius> why is it affecting the same people
[07:31] <nalioth> burhan: look in the middle of ALL those people that leave suddenly, look at the quit reasons
[07:31] <Thor2> my server is a windows machine...
[07:31] <sloof3> Hi jade...
[07:31] <ephesius> how come i havent gotten kicked
[07:32] <cherwin> Wandere: the same people got the same stupid routers
[07:32] <Thor2> any way to do a hard disk install ?
[07:32] <nalioth> ephesius: because those people won't upgrade their routers
[07:32] <dr_willis> heh - from what id read - it was a  'security feature' of some of the routers/stuff.
[07:32] <finalbeta> ephesius, it makes sense that it's always the same people, because those are vulnerable, you are not.
[07:32] <sloof3> ephesius: Your router doesn't suck?
[07:32] <burhan> Thor2: that's what a livecd install is.
[07:32] <chollis> yea i got a coyote linux floppy router setup
[07:32] <dr_willis> but the fix for freenode is to connect to some higher port.. but i forget the port #
[07:32] <finalbeta> dr_willis, can you provide me that reading material? :p
[07:32] <burhan> dr_willis: do you remember which one?
[07:32] <bbrazil> dr_willis: no that was something elese that affected nortan
[07:32] <bugs__> ya gotta fix all the bugs!
[07:32] <ephesius> finalbeta: makes sense i should have said why are these peopl evulnerable
 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19938
[07:32] <dr_willis> i was thinking it was port 8000 or somthing.
[07:33] <zoredache> It sure seems like freenode could block the dcc requests that cause this...
[07:33] <burhan> go LoRez (?? who tha heck is LoRez??)
[07:33] <dr_willis> zoredache,  evey just saying the correct 'd c c stuff' line in channel will cause it.
[07:34] <D|scOveR|> hello
[07:34] <dr_willis> zoredache,  this attack is just doing it in a not publicy said methid. it seems.
[07:34] <polpak> hi
[07:34] <D|scOveR|> can I ask something?
[07:34] <polpak> yes
[07:34] <burhan> !ask
[07:34] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:34] <bbrazil> dr_willis: that could be blocked too, freenode does some crazy stuff
[07:34] <polpak> !justask
[07:34] <p33squad> pee squad dcc exploit!
[07:34] <Geert> :p
[07:34] <yamal> 10 left
[07:34] <burhan> I know there are some people cursing their routers.
[07:34] <fistandantilus> niall: those arent qoutes, plz follow the syntax exactly, it needs " on both side not '
[07:35] <cherwin> how annoying...
[07:35] <finalbeta> I turned of SPI on mine :p, I'm fine with nat.
[07:35] <burhan> I wonder how someone tripped upon this exploit.
[07:35] <bbrazil> burhan: probably a buggy irc client
[07:35] <dr_willis> likely that you can prevent the DCC exploit from working by connecting to us via port 8001 rather than port 6667
[07:35] <sloof3> This is why people should use decent routers.
[07:36] <ompaul> nalioth, @@ ?
[07:36] <dr_willis> its the better routers that are being over paranoid that are the probmen I think. :P
[07:36] <Jimmey> chown +r james:james .etwolf returns: chown: `+r': invalid user
[07:36] <sloof3> Jimmey: -r
[07:36] <burhan> Jimmey: chown -R james:james .etwolf
[07:36] <D|scOveR|> I have a DVD-RAM drive and I wondered can I install Ubuntu on a DVD-RAM disc, since it is random access, it should be possible, but I am not sure. So guys, please answer! :)
[07:36] <LoRez> nalioth: you redirecting them?
[07:36] <nalioth> LoRez: i am
[07:36] <Ribs> How do you know it's routers and not the IRC client?
[07:37] <fistandantilus> cause it will do it regardless of the client
 sorry man my bad didnt go into the fearandloathing folder doh
[07:37] <zazeem> dr_willis: it still wont work
[07:37] <Jimmey> sloof3, burhan, thanks :)
[07:37] <dr_willis> zazeem,  what dont work? :P
[07:37] <zazeem> dr_willis: i did cd to the directory of the makefile then typed make
[07:37] <burhan> D|scOveR|: interesting thought, I don't think it will work though.
[07:37] <bbrazil> Ribs: this was big about 2 months ago
[07:37] <labau> still lol
[07:37] <fistandantilus> niall: np
[07:37] <zazeem> dr_willis: got a bunch of errrors
[07:37] <dr_willis> zazeem,  normally you do a ./configure, make, make install
[07:37] <tholmes> hi folks -- im looking for a new package of KVIRC for ubuntu -- the 3.2.4  it has features that i want -- how can i make it show up?
[07:37] <burhan> D|scOveR|: because ubuntu needs to write to the disk as well
[07:37] <zazeem> o
 again thanks for your patience
[07:38] <zazeem> dr_willis: do i have to cd to the directory first?
[07:38] <dr_willis> zazeem,  check the docvs for the program you are trying to compile.. it may also need some libraries and the assoiucated library-dev packages
[07:38] <dr_willis> zazeem,  ./configure is running it from the current dir.. so yes.
[07:38] <zazeem> dr_willis: it only says to type makefile
[07:38] <zazeem> dr_willis: it is a gimp plugin
[07:38] <fistandantilus> niall: i gotta go soon though so we need to wrap this up otherwise ill be back in about an hour
[07:38] <burhan> zazeem: what are you trying to build?
[07:38] <zazeem> a gimp plugin
[07:39] <dr_willis> zazeem,  no clue there then.. it could be a badly written plugin. or it may want some gimp-dev packages
[07:39] <Spec> DBO: did you ban labau?
[07:39] <DBO> Spec, yeah
[07:39] <Spec> and mostwanted?
[07:39] <zazeem> burhan: a gimp plugin
[07:39] <burhan> *sigh* man this is getting annoying.
[07:39] <server_> Does anybody use vhcs2?
[07:39] <LoRez> Spec: yes.
[07:39] <burhan> zazeem: pastebin some of those errors (usually the last few lines)
[07:39] <qwerty2k> are wireless routers/adsl modems supported very well in ubuntu?
[07:39] <zazeem> burhan: ok
[07:40] <qwerty2k> (ethernet kind)
[07:40] <Spec> qwerty2k: it's the wireless cards that don't have 100% great support
[07:40] <anosa> !samba
[07:40] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:40] <burhan> qwerty2k: supported how? Don't think there is much to support?
ok i converted the files although it made two iso files which one do i use
[07:40] <dr_willis> perhaps pervent the  exploit from working by connecting to freenode via port 8001 rather than port 6667
[07:40] <bbrazil> qwerty2k: it's all ethernet, so they just work
[07:40] <cherwin> qwerty2k, it's platform independent
[07:40] <stefg> !wifi > qwerty2k
[07:40] <anosa> !nfs
[07:40] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[07:40] <Ribs> qwerty2k: Sorry to break it to you... But Ethernet is a wired way of doing things....
[07:40] <qwerty2k> kk, thanks guys, just wanted to know if some wifi cards etc are better supported than others so i know which to buy or not to
[07:40] <server_> Does anybody have vhcs working on there Server of Pc?
[07:40] <server_> !vhcs
[07:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about vhcs - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:40] <tomekdd> hi all
[07:40] <fistandantilus> niall: two iso files? what do you mean?
[07:41] <qwerty2k> Ribs, yeah, i realised how dumb it sounded afte i said it
[07:41] <tomekdd> i've got some problems with my ubuntu..
[07:41] <boolka> Does dapper have a text based installer? im new to linux, but I would like to learn it..
[07:41] <tomekdd> can sb help me ?
[07:41] <Ribs> qwerty2k: :)
[07:41] <Ribs> qwerty2k: Laptop or desktop?
[07:41] <fistandantilus> boolka: the alternate iso cd, as i stated before
[07:41] <qwerty2k> Ribs, desktop
[07:41] <dr_willis> boolka,  the 'alternate cd installer is text based'
[07:41] <sloof3> boolka: Use the Alternative Install disk
[07:41] <Ribs> qwerty2k: Well, I'm not too clued up in that area
[07:41] <erUSUL> !install > boolka
[07:41] <Ribs> qwerty2k: My advice, search the forums, see what people are saying...
[07:42] <cherwin> !ask > tomekdd
[07:42] <Ribs> qwerty2k: Do you mean by way of a wireless card?
[07:42] <qwerty2k> Ribs, ok, will do, might get ethernet wired one then, just wanted wireless for my xbox 360 and ninty wii when it comes out
[07:42] <michael___> Hello all. I have installed the ati drivers in ubuntu and have dualscreen running fine. however, fglrxinfo tells me i am using Mesa OpenGL, and it should be ATI OpenGL. I have compared my xorg.conf to one my friend has but i do not see where the opengl thing is located. can anybody point me in the right direction, please?
[07:42] <tomekdd> i cannot configure the net on ubuntu
[07:42] <niall> when i did the command like so bchunk fear.bin fear.cue fear then it made fear01.iso which is 602kb and fear02 which is 702mb
[07:42] <tomekdd> i already did it but it doens't work
[07:42] <cherwin> tomekdd: anything to add to that?
[07:42] <Ribs> tbh, wired ethernet is more secure, faster, and less of a pita when it comes to setting it up, on any OS
[07:42] <wasauce> can anyone help me setup my box to run some code whenever it boots? right now here is what i am doing: http://wasauce.blogspot.com/ but this doesnt always work
[07:42] <seraphi1> Hi folks!
[07:42] <tomekdd> i gave ip adresses, dns
[07:42] <qwerty2k> Ribs, true
[07:42] <fistandantilus> niall: how big is the original bin?
[07:43] <tomekdd> and then typed pppoeconf
[07:43] <Ribs> Most wireless routers have at least one ethernet port anyway
[07:43] <zazeem> burhan: heres the link http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19939
[07:43] <zazeem> burhan: there is no configure file
[07:43] <tomekdd> everything went well
[07:43] <Ribs> my desktop and server run on a ethernet port each, and I have the wireless for my laptop and PSP :)
[07:43] <qwerty2k> Ribs, :O
[07:43] <erUSUL> wasauce: put the code or a call to a script in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[07:43] <ompaul> na got them both
[07:43] <tomekdd> i type iwconfig , it shows that i am connected
 807mb
[07:43] <zazeem> burhan: there is a config file though
[07:43] <ompaul> nalioth,  got them both
[07:43] <tomekdd> but when i try to ping my host i can't
[07:43] <cherwin> tomekdd: you are beeing very opaque
[07:43] <tomekdd> :/
[07:43] <qwerty2k> that would be perfect, ethernet it to my pc then use the wireless for xbox and wii :)
[07:43] <Ribs> qwerty2k: Aye
[07:44] <wasauce> erUSUL: okay i will try that...
[07:44] <Thor> # DEBOOTSTRAP_DIR=`pwd` ./debootstrap --arch i386 breezy /mnt/ubuntu http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy <-- what files of the install cd does this command get ?
[07:44] <Ribs> qwerty2k: I don't know where in the world you live... But in the UK market 'wireless' router/ADSL/firewall combination boxes are fairly cheap, and all have at least one ethernet port
[07:44] <Ribs> Mine has four ethernet ports :)
[07:44] <tomekdd> cherwin : once againt..
[07:44] <Warbo> Gagh. Gazpacho crashed again :( (this time it's player 3 that is the problem)
[07:44] <qwerty2k> Ribs, im in uk :), was gonna ask if you would suggest a brand/particular product to get
[07:45] <tomekdd> i have to use pppoe script to connect to my network.
[07:45] <fistandantilus> niall: ive never had it split it into two files, i would think the big one woulod be the one you need but i dont know its smaller than the original .. did it do the same thing to the other movie? or did you try it?
[07:45] <zoredache> wasauce: I suspect I would do it as an up <cmd> in your //etc/network/interfaces file...
[07:45] <tomekdd> in linux terminal i type pppoeconf, and it causes configuration of this script
[07:45] <D|scOveR|> so, there is no chance that Ubuntu or any other operating system can be installed on a DVD-RAM disc?
[07:45] <qwerty2k> Ribs, caus my wired netgear atm SUCKS, it constantly cuts out as it cant handle too many requests at once :S
 the other movie is avi
[07:45] <D|scOveR|> so, there is no chance that Ubuntu or any other operating system can be installed on a DVD-RAM disc?
[07:45] <tomekdd> everything seems to be good
[07:45] <tsume> huh
[07:45] <seraphi1> I've a problem with my USB-keyboard, it doesn't load at startup. Anyone can tell me where or how/where  I can configure the module loading behavior? I'm using the latest Xubuntu
[07:45] <Ribs> qwerty2k: Well, the SpeedTouch 580 works well here. The default firmware should be updated if you can to the latest version (requires a windows PC :( )
[07:46] <D|scOveR|> so, there is no chance that Ubuntu or any other operating system can be installed on a DVD-RAM disc?
[07:46] <yamal> hmmz?
[07:46] <ompaul> LoRez, whjat is that think to make +r exits?
[07:46] <tomekdd> :>
[07:46] <fistandantilus> D|scOveR|: quit repeating
[07:46] <tsume> okay, whoever the mirc user is, that is just pure chlidish
[07:46] <hollero> Does Ubuntu let me login as root?
[07:46] <qwerty2k> Ribs, dont have a windows pc :(, but a mate does :D
[07:46] <ompaul> !root > hollero
[07:46] <polpak> hollero: no, use sudo
[07:46] <ardchoille> hollero: No, you need to use sudo
[07:46] <tsume> but I expect just as much, because its a mIRC user
[07:46] <Jman888> msg NickServ IDENTIFY jordan
[07:46] <ompaul> hollero, no read the message from the bot
[07:46] <Ribs> qwerty2k: The Speedtouch 580 is, like, fairly old, but works on all OSes, and is uber-cheap when you can find it
[07:46] <Ribs> qwerty2k: and it's pretty realiable
[07:46] <ompaul> Jman888, change your password
[07:46] <zazeem> burhan: u there?
[07:46] <qwerty2k> cool
[07:46] <Elite2k> woah finally works.. let me be the first to say windows XP can go to HELL i am a n00b to linux but ubuntu kills XP !!!!!
[07:46] <stefg> D|scOveR|: please stop exposing your lack of closer thought every 30 secs.. :-) that's wishful thinking and you know yourself why it is
[07:46] <Ribs> qwerty2k: The default firmware does a good job... But the newer firmware has sexy features
[07:46] <qwerty2k> Ribs, no problems with bittorrent or anythnig like that?
[07:47] <cherwin> D|sc0veR|: you have to know that it isn't regularly used escpecially in Europe where i'm from
[07:47] <Ribs> qwerty2k: Once you tell it to forward the ports, it copes pretty well
[07:47] <qwerty2k> Ribs, cool, cheers will look into it
[07:47] <Ribs> qwerty2k: I've has *very* occasional problems with, and it's on 24/7
[07:47] <MikkelRev> Hi, I have a Ubuntu 6.06 CD-R which I tried to install for a friend. But when I booted the CD, it just stopped at the beginning where it tries to mount root file system. I have tried the same physical CD on two different comps, and it works ok there. What could be wrong on his comp?
[07:47] <fistandantilus> niall: hmm, will you paste me an ls -l from the directory the files are in and put in on the pastebin?
[07:47] <Ribs> qwerty2k: once the wireless stopped working, a quick power cycle sorted that
 yeah its on the way
[07:47] <Ribs> qwerty2k: But yeah, it's good kit for the money
[07:47] <qwerty2k> Ribs, cool, i will check ebuyer etc for it
[07:47] <D|scOveR|> cherwin: I am from europe too, Macedonia :)
[07:48] <Ribs> qwerty2k: Good man :)
[07:48] <cherwin> D|scOveR|: then why are you using such type of media, just use something else
[07:48] <hollero> sudo works!
[07:48] <hollero> thanks
[07:49] <LadyNikon> oh good lord
[07:49] <LoRez> nalioth: I klined the a-hole ghosting him.
[07:49] <Ribs> qwerty2k: Check as many shops as you can... Remember you're paying for just one product (no shop can offer anything special for extra money), so get the cheapest
[07:49] <nalioth> LoRez: ok
[07:49] <nalioth> LoRez: i'm glad, cuz this is not the first time
[07:49] <Spec> MikkelRev: i guess you should probably run a memory tester on that comp, just to make sure the mem's good
[07:49] <stefg> MikkelRev: there might be problems with the motherboard. Some Kobos have broken ACPI, which is ignored by win, but affects linux, another reason might be an IRQ conflict
[07:49] <Ribs> shouldn't Jman888 change his password?
[07:49] <qwerty2k> Ribs, will do, will check ebuyer, dabs, aria, scan etc :)
[07:49] <D|scOveR|> cherwin: I was interested in how it works, so I bought a DVD-RAM drive and disc
[07:49] <LadyNikon> nalioth: i take it I dont have to say anything about you guys having a bot problem
[07:50] <D|scOveR|> cherwin: it is a new experience for me
[07:50] <LadyNikon> heh
[07:50] <FeestBijtje> ive installed XGL + Compiz and its loadet success fully but now i cannot start AMSN whats the problem?
[07:50] <nalioth> LadyNikon: it's not just us, it's network wide
[07:50] <LadyNikon> ah
[07:50] <seraphi1> Anyone can tell my how the modules for usb are loaded in the latest version of ubuntu? becaucse my usb-keyboard first loads after i logged in with a ps/2 keyboard and opened a terminal...
[07:50] <justaguy> "network wide" ... what?
[07:50] <MikkelRev> Spec: I tried the memory check and the CD check from the CD boot menu, no errors. The comp has Windows running which works ok.
[07:50] <cherwin> D|scOveR|: hmm ok, anyway just hook the stuff up and see what happens. keep a close eye on dmesg
[07:51] <Spec> MikkelRev: hmm. and when does it fail?
[07:51] <m4rk> hmm
 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19940
[07:51] <zazeem> burhan: u there?
[07:51] <zazeem> burhan: u there?
[07:51] <D|scOveR|> cherwin: I did try it, but where the wizard asks me where to install, only the HDD is shown, not the DVD-RAM drive
[07:51] <Spec> MikkelRev: maybe you should try to boot the cd with the no acpi option (acpi=off passed to the kernel)
[07:52] <MikkelRev> Spec: at the boottime at the very beginning when it sais something like "mounting root file system"
[07:52] <tsume> okay stop
[07:52] <Thor2> any one know how to do a local network install ??
[07:52] <tsume> I was just playing with him, heh
[07:52] <tsume> I didn't mean to chase him away
[07:52] <stefg> MikkelRev: what make is the motherboard (Chipset?), what CPU is it
[07:52] <MikkelRev> Spec: I will try that. Any other suggestions if that doesnt help ?
[07:52] <erUSUL> !install
[07:52] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[07:52] <fistandantilus> niall: wow id say its the big one but there's like a 100 meg difference in filesize
[07:52] <Thor2> er4z0r - no local network install in that list...
[07:53] <Spec> MikkelRev: I suppose if that doesn't work, try out the alternate installer cd
[07:53] <MikkelRev> stefg: dunno atm, he doesnt live here... but its a fairly new comp
[07:53] <tsume> nalioth: what did Homer do?
 thats kinda crazy is there some sort of compression goin on
[07:53] <Elite2k> hey guyz i am a n00b to ubuntu got automatix running just wanted to know how come i cant get some online videos to work from websites they say does not have permission .
 will i just use k3b normally with that file
[07:53] <MikkelRev> Spec: what is the "alternate installer cd" ? I have only one Ubuntu CD (ubuntu 6.06 desktop)
[07:53] <stefg> MikkelRev: there were problems with newer Asus boards iirc
[07:53] <polpak> !automatix
[07:53] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[07:53] <tsume> Jman888: change your password fyi
[07:53] <fistandantilus> niall: it might be added work but vlc player will play an .iso, you might wanna install it and just see if the movie is still legit before wasting a burn on it
[07:53] <Spec> !alternate
[07:53] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-installation CD, with no live session. Use this if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an expert install.
[07:53] <tsume> oh, blah. he left
[07:53] <cherwin> D|scOveR|: i don't have any information for you left, i just keep wondering why the heck you wanna install ubuntu on a DVD-RAM drive, it's the same as installing ubuntu on a DVD-RW
[07:54] <nalioth> tsume: the -b shows an 'unbanning'.  All the victims of the latest attack have been directed to where they can get help
[07:54] <Spec> MikkelRev: it's The Alternate CD :p
[07:54] <bit_doidao> hello! how to take a screenshot with seconds of delay?
[07:54] <FeestBijtje> ive installed XGL + Compiz and its loadet success fully but now i cannot start AMSN whats the problem?
i do have dvdrw discs but ill try as u suggested
[07:54] <MrPockets> is there a something or other i can get as an addon for the desktop toolbar thats similar to the mac scrolling dock?
[07:54] <MrBallZ> hi, I have aproblem mounting an external USB drive on my server , thru NFS on my laptop, it tells me " Permision denied " and I have mounted another nfs share on the same server but that's a normal hdd inside the server, what can this be ?
[07:54] <erUSUL> bit_doidao: with gimp
[07:54] <cherwin> FeestBijtje: anything to add to that? we cannot see what kind of errors you have on the screen you know..
[07:54] <ardchoille> bit_doidao: gnome-screenshot --delay=5
[07:54] <fistandantilus> niall: well if they are rewritable you could try that too yeah, your option really
[07:54] <D|scOveR|> cherwin: I just wanted to try if it works, nothing more, if I want to install linux for real, i'll do it to a HDD ofcourse :) thx anyway
[07:54] <bit_doidao> FeestBijtje, some softwares maybe not 100% compatibilie with xgl, causing some issues
[07:55] <stefg> MikkelRev: you might want to go through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions to see if you can get the machine to boot. Once it's up you have logs to look at and determinae wahts wrong
[07:56] <tsume> okay, which ever netop it is, stop. Speak to levin. I only toy with people
[07:56] <bit_doidao> er4z0r, exactly! I knew i had this feature somewhere!
[07:56] <bit_doidao> erUSUL, eactly! I knew i had this feature somewhere!
[07:56] <tsume> nalioth: oh, heh.
[07:56] <MrPockets> go with a no on that?
[07:56] <bit_doidao> ardchoille, thank you too
[07:56] <nalioth> tsume: stop what?
[07:56] <ardchoille> bit_doidao: You're welcome :)
[07:57] <popple> Who keeps banning ME!
[07:58] <AfterDeath> nalioth: someone is klining tsume and he wants them to stop
[07:58] <popple> im not doing anything just getting banned
[07:58] <LoRez> popple: tsume?
[07:58] <nalioth> popple: banned from where?
[07:58] <popple> LoRez, I just changed my nick because i keep getting banned.
[07:58] <LoRez> AfterDeath: he repeatedly ghosted another user after getting his password
[07:58] <LoRez> maybe he should read the ban message.
[07:58] <AfterDeath> orly? never mind then, continue on lorez :-P
[07:59] <michael___> what line in xorg.conf indicates usage of mesa opengl? i installed the ati drivers but it does not load the drivers, i think? dual screen is working fine. aticonfig works fine as well, but also tells me about mesa opengl instead of ati...?
[07:59] <AfterDeath> sigh...
[07:59] <MikkelRev> stefg, Spec... thanks, gotta try it, else I come back some day
[07:59] <popple> LoRez, Who did that
[07:59] <polpak> michael___: see the ATI howto
[07:59] <polpak> !ati
[07:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:59] <Spec> MikkelRev: good luck
[07:59] <LoRez> popple: I did.  are you tsume?
[07:59] <popple> Im on my accound but somebody must hate me
[08:00] <popple> LoRez, Im Jman888
[08:00] <nalioth> popple: join us in #ubuntu-ops please
[08:00] <michael___> polpak: could you point me to it, please? i seem to be finding the wrong page in google
[08:00] <popple> Somebody kept banning me..
[08:00] <nalioth> popple: join us in #ubuntu-ops please
[08:00] <LoRez> popple: someone kept ghosting you.  change your nickserv pass.
[08:00] <popple> how?
[08:00] <farous> michael__: in the driver section you need to specify fglrx instead of ati. If you can post your xorg.conf file on the pastebin i can be of more help
[08:00] <polpak> !ati > michael___
[08:00] <LoRez> /ns help set password
[08:00] <ompaul> popple join #ubuntu-ops <-- click on that
[08:00] <polpak> michael___: read the message the bot sent you
[08:00] <nalioth> popple: join us in #ubuntu-ops plesae
[08:01] <AfterDeath> popple, /msg nickserv set password new_password
[08:01] <popple> Ghosting? What does that mean...
[08:01] <chedabob> Hiya
[08:01] <AfterDeath> popple: nevermind, it just means that someone got ahold of your password, and is being an ass to make you disconnect
[08:02] <michael___> polpak: thanks i appreciate that. i defenitely arrived at the wrong page the whole time. !g must be learned as well...
[08:02] <AfterDeath> err, he left dangit
[08:02] <yamal> AfterDeath: it's useless that password has long been changed by now
[08:02] <ompaul> LoRez, ^^ 4 joins back //
[08:02] <chedabob> is there any easy way to upgrade from 5.10 to the latest version?
[08:02] <tsume> now I'm speaking to lilo, I won't permit this stupid behavior
[08:02] <tsume> Lorez ;)
[08:03] <AfterDeath> tsume: yeah sure, lilo is afk atm
[08:03] <tsume> LoRez: could you voice me in -social, or does lilo like talking ..
[08:03] <tsume> AfterDeath: ugh
[08:03] <tsume> AfterDeath: do you know where lilo went to? postoffice?
[08:04] <nalioth> tsume: can you join #ubuntu-offtopic for that stuff?
[08:04] <tsume> nalioth: sorry :)
[08:04] <ompaul> funny I was about to say tsume, that conversation is for #ubuntu-offtopic thanks
[08:04] <AfterDeath> heh
[08:04] <tsume> ompaul: yeah, sorry  *scratches head blushing*
[08:04] <chedabob> ?
[08:04] <cherwin> !ghosting
[08:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about ghosting - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:04] <chedabob> !upgrade
[08:04] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[08:05] <nexu> 20!
[08:05] <nalioth> !tell cherwin about ghost
[08:05] <Jman888> Hello.. Can anybody see this?
[08:05] <DBO> yes
[08:05] <nexu> no
[08:05] <nexu> :P
[08:05] <AfterDeath> Jman888: yes
[08:05] <cherwin> haha
[08:05] <tsume> cherwin: ghosting is irc stuff. to kill a person on irc who has a nick already ;)
[08:05] <Jman888> Good
[08:05] <tsume> Jman888: I was playing with you, change your password please
[08:05] <stefg> Jman888: the trick is !ping
[08:05] <stefg> !ping
[08:05] <ubotu> pong
[08:05] <cherwin> thanks tsume :)
[08:05] <ephesius> what is a good command line irc lcient for debian?
[08:05] <sorush20> the hplip packages are so out of date. .the hplip package on the website is 1.6.7 ubuntu has 0.9.11
[08:06] <AfterDeath> tsume: that isn't nice OR funny play
[08:06] <tsume> Jman888: and remember not to broadcast your password again
[08:06] <Jman888> tsume, I Broadcasted MY password...
[08:06] <zoredache> ephesius: I really like irssi
[08:06] <scrappy_> ephesius: irssi?
[08:06] <tsume> AfterDeath: it just makes a point, because theres always someone who does it and doesn't change it
[08:06] <tsume> Jman888: yeah :)
[08:06] <AfterDeath> the ONLY situation where it MIGHT be REMOTELY acceptable, is if someone isn't believing you when you tell them they need to change their password
[08:06] <chedabob> can a brother get an answer around here?
[08:06] <Jman888> tsume, :(
[08:06] <tsume> Jman888: please change your nickserv password
[08:06] <ephesius> ok thanks
[08:06] <burhan> are the exploits over?
[08:06] <ardchoille> Can someone who has bot factoid editing perms please put "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" into !xcfg or some other x-related factoid?
[08:06] <nalioth> tsume: he's done.
[08:06] <tsume> Jman888: /msg nickserv set password newpass
[08:06] <Jman888> I changed it in #ubuntu-ops
[08:07] <ucordes> hey my friends. i've got problems connecting to a windows box on my wlan. i just can't find him. his firewall is turned off. what can i do?
[08:07] <Jman888> tsume, Ill Change it again Just in case
[08:07] <tsume> Jman888: no nono no, your network services, not channel password
[08:07] <FeestBijtje> cherwin: there is no error at all it just stops running
[08:07] <nalioth> ardchoille: join #ubuntu-ops for your request
[08:07] <burhan> ucordes: can you ping the ip?
[08:07] <michael___> ok. i had installed my ati driver wrongly, and i edited the xorg.conf manually. i have a copy of the original. do i need to replace the edited one with the original one before i follow the ati how to instructions? or does it not matter?
[08:07] <Jman888> tsume, Network Services
[08:07] <ucordes> burhan: how can i test this?
[08:07] <Jman888> tsume, ...
[08:07] <ucordes> ping <ip> ?
[08:08] <cherwin> FeestBijtje: execute amsn in a terminal window and pastebin what you see (you're dutch i presume..)
[08:08] <tsume> Jman888: did you change it yet? :)
[08:08] <FeestBijtje> cherwin: watch ur pm
[08:08] <ucordes> burhan: the connection is there, i get ping response
[08:08] <ompaul> Jman888, your okay now - please leave it alone you changed it in #ubuntu-ops
[08:08] <Jman888> tsume, Im not sure what your talking about. Network Services?
[08:08] <tsume> nalioth: okay okay :)
[08:08] <ompaul> tsume, leave it alone
[08:08] <ttyfscker> when did dapper get a libcairo2 update last?
[08:08] <tsume> Jman888: privmsg please
[08:09] <FeestBijtje> cherwin: ive seen this error befor on google
[08:09] <ompaul> Jman888, you are ok now - you can leave the subject alone
[08:09] <ttyfscker> something has broken my vmware player... and its saying $ vmplayer
[08:09] <ttyfscker> /usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmplayer: /usr/lib/vmware/lib/libpng12.so.0/libpng12.so.0: no version information available (required by /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2)
[08:09] <burhan> ucordes: okay, then you cannot see it in Places > Network Servers ?
[08:09] <ZataH> anyone who have got PPTP to work in ubuntu ?
[08:09] <chedabob> whats the default ubuntu root password? cos i cant get root
[08:09] <Jman888> msg tsume Hello?
[08:09] <nalioth>                                                    !tell chedabob about root
[08:09] <ucordes> burhan: no. this is my problem. he isn't visible under smb
[08:10] <michael___> chedabob: use sudo <command> to get root rights
[08:10] <ZataH> chedabob: you can change it in your userlist
[08:10] <nalioth> !tell ZataH about root
[08:10] <burhan> ucordes: is windows file sharing disabled on that pc?
[08:10] <chedabob> oh rt, cos when i type su, it asks for a password, then wont let me in
[08:10] <ZataH> nalioth: what ?
[08:10] <nalioth> ZataH: you have a private message
[08:10] <Jimmey> I get this error whilst trying to play ET: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy Could not open /dev/dsp
[08:10] <Jman888> Does anybody know how to set up a new proftpd account with accsess to only one folder like /var/www
[08:10] <ucordes> burhan: no he got several folders shared
[08:10] <marshall__> what is the best irc client for gnome?
[08:11] <nalioth> ZataH: ubuntu comes without an active root account for a reason.  enabling it after installation can lead to breakage
[08:11] <TheGame> xchat
[08:11] <burhan> marshall__: the one you like :)
[08:11] <TheGame> xchat irc
[08:11] <michael___> mozilla irc
[08:11] <ompaul> marshall__, I use xchat not xchat-gnome :) but as burhan said ...
[08:11] <ZataH> nalioth: you can still login as root i console
[08:11] <ZataH> use Irssi :P
[08:11] <cherwin> marshall__ xchat it the most used client, but some people prefer BitchX or something else
[08:11] <marshall__> ompaul: burhan TheGame: thanks
[08:11] <nalioth> ZataH: only in the rescue console on a default machine, otherwise you need to sudo -i
[08:12] <fistandantilus> its not reccomended, not having a root password set is part of ubuntu's security
[08:12] <ZataH> no, i can log in as root, in standard terminal
[08:12] <ardchoille> marshall__: XChat is a nice graphical client. irssi and bitchx are nice text-based clients.
[08:12] <ZataH> but i have ofcorse change the root password
[08:12] <fistandantilus> zatah because you've set the root password
[08:12] <fistandantilus> normally you wouldnt be able to
[08:12] <marshall__> cherwin:  cool, thanks
[08:12] <stefg> scrappy_ you can have the best (bore) of both worlds... nexenta
[08:13] <ompaul> !root > ZataH
[08:13] <marshall__> ardchoille: thanks
[08:13] <ardchoille> marshall__: You're welcome :)
[08:13] <ZataH> fistandantilus: yea i know, and that was what i tell him to do in the first place
[08:13] <Jman888> How can i make a new ftp account in linux
[08:13] <ompaul> ZataH, that pm tells you how to remove the root password for root if you want to run the box like the rest of the planet and remember one less password
[08:13] <mopflite> ardchoille: I haven't used xchat for years, but it's the nicest gui irc client that I have used
[08:13] <ZataH> ompaul: oki
[08:13] <ZataH> i was just trying to help him
[08:13] <burhan> ucordes: do you have samba utilities installed? can you see any other machines? can you see the linux machine from windows?
[08:14] <fistandantilus> ZataH: its not a recommended suggestion, especially to new users
[08:14] <ZataH> my dist works fine, so i have no problems
[08:14] <ompaul> ZataH, never advise someone here how to set a password - tell them !root > their_nick and leave it at that
[08:14] <cherwin> !root > cherwin
[08:14] <harisund> ZataH what dist do you use?
[08:14] <ompaul> !msgthebot
[08:14] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[08:14] <ZataH> ompaul: why not set a password ?
[08:14] <ZataH> Ubuntu 6.06 now
[08:14] <cherwin> :p
[08:14] <ompaul> ZataH, take that to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:14] <fistandantilus> if you'd read the link it'd tell you
[08:15] <ZataH> ompaul: why ?
[08:15] <chedabob> how come when i type "su" and i type  my password, i dont get jack, but if i type Sudo <command> and enter the same password it works?
[08:15] <zim_> hi all what is the command to reconfig the network
[08:15] <Jman888> Can anybody help my with proftpd
[08:15] <zim_> hi all what is the command to reconfig the network server install
[08:15] <ompaul> because it is offtopic for here - this is support not discussion
[08:15] <ompaul> !offtopic
[08:15] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:15] <ZataH> ompaul: yea, esy on
[08:15] <ZataH> *easy
[08:15] <ompaul> ZataH, you ask I will discuss but not here
[08:15] <harisund> chedabob su only allows you to change to another user. sud allows you to become the root user temporarily
[08:15] <nalioth> chedabob: Ubuntu uses the sudo model, read the URL ubotu sent you
[08:15] <chedabob> how come i cant change to root? is it disabled?
[08:16] <fistandantilus> ...
[08:16] <fistandantilus> wow
[08:16] <harisund> !root > chedabob
[08:16] <stefg> !root
[08:16] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:16] <ompaul> !root > chedabob
[08:16] <cherwin> my god
[08:16] <cherwin> hahaha
[08:16] <fistandantilus> lets go through it one more time for kicks
[08:16] <fistandantilus> ;)
[08:16] <cherwin> doesn't anyone read Faq's anymore?
[08:16] <nalioth> chedabob: sudo can handle all your superuser needs
[08:16] <chedabob> i know what sudo and su are, but why cant i just use su to stay as root in terminal?
[08:17] <nalioth> chedabob: use sudo -i  (and read the URL that has been sent to you many times now)
[08:17] <fistandantilus> chedabob: read the link, root passwd is not set by default as a security precaution, ubuntu uses sudo instead
[08:17] <harisund> chedabob if you want to stay in terminal as root do sudo -i
[08:17] <chedabob> kk, thats all you had to say. that i cant use su for root
[08:17] <zim_> can anyone tell me the commant on a server install to reconfigure a network interface
[08:17] <chedabob> i used a linux distro before that wouldnt let you log in as root, i guess this was it
[08:17] <zim_> command
[08:18] <cherwin> zim_: ifconfig
[08:18] <bbrazil> zim_: /etc/network/interfaces, ifup,ifdown
[08:18] <zim_> is there no reconfigure command that just askes you like at the install
[08:18] <snook353> i have to reinstall the ndiswrapper driver every time i use a different WAP.  how do i fix that?
[08:19] <Frostyx> Is it possible to configure a directory to set automatically the owner of a file to someone else than the creator?
[08:19] <ucordes> burhan: i have only the normal samba which is installed from scratch. yes the windows box can see me. but it requests password on connect which won't work!
[08:19] <zim_> somthing that will rewite /etc/network/interface file
[08:19] <harisund> Frostyx I think what you are looking for is a 'setuid' bit .. either wait for someone to answer here or google that term
[08:19] <snook353> ok, thanks
[08:19] <snook353> i guess
[08:20] <Frostyx> harisund i'll google that term now, thank you
[08:20] <tholmes> hi folks -- im wanting to download a package from a cvs -- it does not have a ubuntu section specifically, but debian sarge and sid are supported -- which should i be using? -- or with it not work at all?
[08:20] <nalioth> tholmes: using debian pkgs are not advised
[08:20] <nathanial> hi folks. I have a question about BITTORENT downloading.
[08:20] <tholmes> nalioth: ok -- just get the source?
[08:21] <ompaul> tholmes, what package?
[08:21] <harisund> Frostyx the wikipedia entry might be a good page to start.
[08:21] <tholmes> kvirc
[08:21] <nalioth> tholmes: you can use debian SOURCE repos and have apt-get build you an official package right on your own system
[08:21] <ompaul> !info kvirc
[08:21] <ubotu> kvirc: KDE based next generation IRC client with module support. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2:3.2.0-5ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2366 kB, installed size 7108 kB
[08:21] <ompaul> tholmes, you must enable universe
[08:22] <nalioth> ompaul: don't short-change tholmes please advise universe AND multiverse
[08:22] <tholmes> ompaul: yes, i however am looking for the newest version which is 3.2.4
[08:22] <Kensey> So am I the last person still using BladeEnc to burn new MP3s?
[08:22] <FurryNemesis> anyone know where I can get updated themes for CGWD which replaced compiz-themer?
[08:23] <tholmes> ompaul: i already have 3.2.0 installed -- it works great but is missing a few key features
[08:23] <ompaul> tholmes, well I would not suggest the latest but if you want to then yes source is the way you also should know about build-essential and checkinstall
[08:23] <opsidao> hi all, I need one little favour, can you run "echo $XDG_CONFIG_DIRS" in a terminal and tell me if it gives you something (of course only if you are using ubuntu), thx
[08:23] <m4rk> how do I hide a partition so it's doesn't appear in nautilis' "Computer"
[08:23] <nalioth> tholmes: join us in #ubuntu-classroom if you would
[08:23] <mrPolite>   FurryNemesis: Synaptic Search "Compiz" or "CGWD" for teh theme pack
[08:23] <polpak> m4rk: hide a partition?
[08:24] <FurryNemesis> ty
[08:24] <m4rk> polpak yeah /dev/hda1 is a dell administrative partition with some dell tools on it but i don't want it appearing in "Computer" when it lists the paritions
[08:24] <m4rk> it's not mounted but it still shows up
[08:24] <mcquaid> hello, is there some other gtk+ equiv to baobab?
[08:25] <ubunewbie> I know this has been dealt with before elsewhere but no solution I can find is working.  I cannot get my wireless card usr5410 to go past 28% on the network configuration "Activation stage: Configuring device."  It is driving me bonkers.  Will any genius take pity on me?  I have been up and down and around the block with no hope.
[08:25] <NeoThermic> Question.. does ubuntu allow the battery to be charged to capacity granularity 2, or does it charge to the 'design capacity' if both differ?
[08:25] <bit_doidao> had anyone made palm zire 72 sync with ubuntu ddrake 6.06?
[08:26] <Cornellius> Is there an easy way to upgrade the kernel to a newer version ?
[08:27] <ErikTheRed> Cornellius: there's a few guides on the forums, but the process isn't exactly easy
[08:27] <Frostyx> Unfortunately setuid does not do what I was looking for
[08:27] <zim_> ok what happened is this i installed dapper LAMP install but let it use DHCP i have edited the interface file to fix this but it wont come up on boot i have to "ifup eth0" what is wrong or is there a command that will reconfigure it
[08:27] <zim_> can anyone help
[08:28] <zencocoon> hi
[08:28] <Kensey> ubunewbie: a post on the forums says setting the essid and running dhclient manually seems to sort it
[08:28] <zencocoon> Someone can help me with network configuration with ubuntu live 5.10
[08:28] <zencocoon> I can't connect to my router
[08:29] <TheGame> anybody have any experience with cdwg
[08:29] <Kensey> TheGame: we buy from them at work
[08:29] <ubunewbie> Kensey, thank you for the response.  Can you point me to that?  Maybe that's the one post I didn't read about it (i read zillions of others. . .) Thanks.
[08:29] <mrstocks> Hiya, is there an optimized version of ubuntu for 64bits systems ?
[08:29] <TheGame> no
[08:29] <scrappy_> Cornellius: of course installing a newer kernel is easy if its in repos but compiling your own is a little involved though straight forward
[08:29] <Kensey> ubunewbie: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=225832
[08:29] <TheGame> cdwg the gnome theme engine
[08:30] <ErikTheRed> zencocoon: are you using a wireless adapter?
[08:30] <Kensey> oh that cdwg
[08:30] <TheGame> ya
[08:30] <Kensey> :)
[08:30] <mwe> The 2.6.17.8 patch from kernel.org applies to 2.6.17, not 2.6.17.7 right?
[08:30] <TheGame> my themes right now in compiz suck
[08:30] <mrstocks> do i loose lots of pref with an optimized 64 bits system ?
[08:30] <FeestBijtje> cherwin: u still here?
[08:30] <erUSUL> mwe: right
[08:30] <cherwin> yeah
[08:31] <mwe> erUSUL: thanks
[08:31] <FeestBijtje> cherwin: the error of AMSN is: Application initialization failed: this isn't a Tk applicationunknown color name "Black"
[08:31] <fistandantilus> cgwd is xgl/compiz specific, regular gnome doesnt use it
[08:31] <zencocoon> how can I find if my ethernet card (Realtek Semiconductor RT8139) si supported by ubuntu live 5.10
[08:32] <cherwin> FeestBijtje: hmm doesn't sound familiar, lets google it. one moment please
[08:32] <mrstocks> should i use ubuntu on a 64bits system ?
[08:32] <legendarysock> ya why not?
[08:32] <NeoThermic> the computer is in 64 bits? You might wish to put it back together first! ;)
[08:33] <fistandantilus> lol
[08:33] <legendarysock> hahaha
[08:33] <mrstocks> its for 32bits no ?
[08:33] <mrstocks> wont i loose lots of perfs?
[08:33] <fistandantilus> yuk yuk ;)
[08:33] <legendarysock> no u can also download the amd64 image
[08:33] <FeestBijtje> cherwin: i did almost every thing what ive found on google
[08:33] <zim_> is there a command that will give me network conf dialog on a dapper server install
[08:33] <bradibus> hey i totally messed up all of my panels in the GUI... is there any way i can reset them all to how they were when i first installed ubuntu?
[08:33] <NeoThermic> mrstocks: like any good linux distro, there is a 64bit version.
[08:33] <fistandantilus> mrstocks: there is a 32 bit and 64 bit version
[08:33] <zoredache> When I am using xfce is there an init script somewhere that I can add 'ssh-add' too, and have it ran when I login?
[08:33] <legendarysock> but the original also works for 64 bits
[08:33] <mrstocks> Oh. Stupid question how do i know what version is have? i got the red cd ? :=)
[08:34] <legendarysock> the red cd?
[08:34] <ubuntu__> i  was trying to change the permissions of my home folder and i accidentally changed / folder and now i cant get root
[08:34] <mrstocks> Version 6.06 LTS, from the freecs thingy
[08:34] <cherwin> FeestBijtje: did you try this one
[08:34] <cherwin> FeestBijtje: replace the /usr/lib/tk8.5/tkfbox.tcl that comes with tk8.5_8.5.0-1~neto3_i386.deb package with the one from http://tktoolkit.cvs.sourceforge.net...?revision=1.58
[08:34] <ubuntu__> can anyone help me
[08:34] <ubunewbie> kensey can you tell me what the right switches would be for dhclient?  i ran dhclient as well as sudo dhclient wlan0 but didn't get further.
[08:34] <mwe> some 64 bit linux programs are not as mature as the 32 bit versions, if they are even ported to 64 bit
[08:34] <Dors> hi guys im totally new to this,i cant do too much things with my install user account, i want to make it as a root user, full privileges, how acn i do it?
[08:34] <zim_> is there any network gurus here i need help
[08:34] <nalioth> !tell Dors about root
[08:34] <zim_> please
[08:34] <bradibus> Is there any way I can reset all the panels in the GUI to when I booted ubuntu for the first time?
[08:35] <fistandantilus> Dors: ubuntu uses sudo instead of root to give superuser privliges
[08:35] <nalioth> Dors: you can use "sudo" from your regular account just fine
[08:35] <FeestBijtje> cherwin: if i am correct ive followed this guide: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-87001.html
[08:35] <cherwin> FeestBijtje: your problem has to do with a faulty xorg installation
[08:35] <Dors> but i can delete some folders or mount a ntfs hd because i dont have privileges :S
[08:35] <FeestBijtje> cherwin: with means i have to reboot o.0
[08:35] <NeoThermic> arg. silly ACPI
[08:35] <three> Dors: dont login as root or some 1337 h4X012 will pnw your b0x
[08:35] <ubuntu__> i accidentally typed chown -R user /
[08:35] <ubuntu__> and now i'm locked out
[08:35] <fistandantilus> d
[08:35] <mrstocks> Can't a 64bits system run 32bits progies along with 64bits ones all hand in hand ?
[08:35] <ubuntu__> i'm on the live cd now
[08:35] <nalioth> Dors: use 'sudo'
[08:36] <cherwin> FeestBijtje: no just read this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=216689&page=4
[08:36] <ubuntu__> is there any way i can set it back
[08:36] <mwe> ubuntu__: that's hard to fix
[08:36] <NeoThermic> it's going to charge my battery to the granualrity 2 setting
[08:36] <fistandantilus> Dors: if you dont have privliges on a command type sudo before it and when it asks for password but your user password in
[08:36] <nalioth> ubuntu__: you'll need to make a new user and copy your files and .files over
[08:36] <legendarysock> *goes to pnws dors b0xzorz*
[08:36] <TheGateKeeper> Dors: fyi password in the cli will not give you ant feedback
[08:36] <cherwin> FeestBijtje: you will find a couple of solutions there
[08:36] <NeoThermic> but the G2 setting is uh, 55,714, yet the design capacity is only 4,000 mAh
[08:36] <ubuntu__> how nalioth
[08:36] <ubuntu__> i cant get root powers
[08:36] <ubuntu__> /etc/sudoers is messed up
[08:37] <ubuntu__> im on the live cd now
[08:37] <mwe> ubuntu__: if you did it in / I think your system is hosed, more or less
[08:37] <erUSUL> ubuntu__: boot in recovery mode
[08:37] <ubuntu__> is there any way i can do it from that
[08:37] <nalioth> ubuntu__: when you restart the computer, boot into the rescue mode
[08:37] <bradibus> Is there any way I can reset all the panels in the GUI to when I booted ubuntu for the first time?
[08:37] <bigbill52a> i formatted one of my partitions in ext3...i placed this sentence in fstab.../dev/sda2	/media/sda2	ext3	rw,user,auto	0	0
[08:37] <fistandantilus> bradibus: doubt it really
[08:37] <FantasticFoo> hmmm
[08:37] <ubuntu__> and what do i do nalioth ?
[08:37] <zoredache> bradibus, one way would be to remove or rename your .config directory under your home
[08:37] <bigbill52a> is there a better sentence to use?
[08:37] <ubuntu__> create the new user from there?
[08:37] <bradibus> zoredache: I'll try that thank you
[08:37] <ubuntu__> or try and change the ownership back?
[08:38] <FantasticFoo> what do i need to install to get java stuff working? or does that come with the basic dapper installation
[08:38] <mwe> ubuntu__: you changed owner of / recursively, right?
[08:38] <ubuntu__> yea
[08:38] <FeestBijtje> cherwin: how do i do this: If you are using xgl, you most probably have the file rgb.txt in /etc/X11 . Xgl in Ubuntu Dapper is usually misconfigured and looks for the file in /usr/share/X11 . Make a symlink to it in /usr/share/X11 and restart your X server.
[08:38] <mwe> ubuntu__: it's very hard to fix
[08:38] <fistandantilus> FantasticFoo: well installing java would be the first place to start
[08:38] <erUSUL> !java > FantasticFoo
[08:38] <kedarguru> hey
[08:38] <ubuntu__> is there anyway i can ssh my files over to a windows computer
[08:38] <mopflite> ubuntu__: if you have run that command, every file and directory on your system will now be owned by user "user" - I wouldn't even attempt to recover from that, I'd reinstall
[08:38] <Dors> ya everytime i uso sudo it ask me for password, but like i said i cant mount a ntfs partition, or delete it from my desktop
[08:38] <name> hey
[08:38] <FantasticFoo> erUSUL: thanks
[08:39] <name> just set up a ubuntu system for a mate
[08:39] <name> and, errm, where's the root password
[08:39] <erUSUL> !root
[08:39] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:39] <TheGateKeeper> FantasticFoo: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_J2SE_Runtime_Environment_.28JRE.29_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[08:39] <cherwin> FeestBijtje: ln -s /etc/X11/rgb.txt /usr/share/X11 and then ctrl-alt-Bksp
[08:39] <Dors> when i enable it using disk manager i can  see any file or even delete it
[08:39] <ubuntu__> mopflite, i would but i have alot of files that i cant lose
[08:39] <fistandantilus> wow its been nothing but root nonsense all day today
[08:39] <nalioth> name: ubuntu doesn't use a root password.  it uses the 'sudo' model for superuser tasks
[08:39] <erUSUL> name: ubuntu does not need/use root
[08:39] <ubuntu__> is there a way i can ssh my home directory over to a windows box?
[08:39] <mopflite> erUSUL: not quite true :-)
[08:39] <legendarysock> im trying to install ubuntu on a new computer using the alternate i386 install cd and it says that it can't load something from the cd, i forgot the message. I ran an integrety test and it failed, so i guess I'm supposed to burn a new image and make sure that one passes the md5 check rite?
[08:39] <cherwin> FeestBijtje: be sure to use sudo!
[08:39] <kedarguru> I'm trying to join a windows network with samba
[08:39] <FeestBijtje> cherwin: i did that a while aggo o.0
[08:40] <FeestBijtje> cherwin: only a restart of gnome is enough?
[08:40] <zoredache> legendarysock: that sounds correct yes
[08:40] <fistandantilus> lets not get in this stupid argument, yes root is there and is need but the passwd is not set for security reasons
[08:40] <bigbill52a> you can use it if you want it..root that is...i like the freedom to use it, if i want to...
[08:40] <kedarguru> but when I try to access it from windows computer a dialog box for enter network password comes up
[08:40] <legendarysock> alrite thanks
[08:40] <kedarguru> I'm new to this stuff :-(
[08:40] <polpak> legendarysock: I had a similar issue , but it was a problem with the drive speed of the cdrom
[08:40] <cherwin> FeestBijtje: you have to restart X
[08:40] <nathanial> hello folks. I have question about SU passwords.
[08:40] <mopflite> root is essential for some (non-ubuntu) things - such as initially setting up a juniper ssl vpn client, for instance
[08:40] <FantasticFoo> how do yeh install macromedia flash with firefox support again?
[08:40] <nalioth> legendarysock: check the integrity of the iso image and burn at 4x or less
[08:40] <polpak> legendarysock: so does it always error at the same point?
[08:40] <legendarysock> i'll try my other cdrom drive
[08:40] <nathanial> It seems that my SU password is not what I thought it would be. Is there a way I can find out what it is??
[08:41] <TheGateKeeper> kedarguru: if you want to look at a windows share from ubuntu/linux, you don't need to install samba just use konqueror
[08:41] <legendarysock> idk ive only tried it once
[08:41] <erUSUL> mopflite: i've never enabled the root account nor i think i will need to
[08:41] <polpak> legendarysock: you can also set the cdrom read speed too if that's your problem. That's what I eventually had to do
[08:41] <legendarysock> damn probably shouldve tried it again just in case
[08:41] <ubuntu__> i logged out and xchat is still running
[08:41] <fistandantilus> nathanial: its your user password, and you should be using sudo not su
[08:41] <zim_> is there a command that will bring up the network config tool that you get at install
[08:41] <nathanial> ah yes
[08:41] <nathanial> firstandantilus
[08:41] <nathanial> thank you
[08:41] <zim_> ls
[08:41] <fistandantilus> np
[08:41] <kedarguru> what I meant is
[08:41] <afief> Is firefox highly unstable for you people?
[08:41] <TheGateKeeper> kedarguru: you only need to install samba if the windows pc wants to look at a ubuntu/lonux share
[08:42] <legendarysock> alrite well i'm going to go burn a new image and give that a shot, if i have the same prob i'll be back
[08:42] <kedarguru> I'm trying to share files
[08:42] <seraphi1> Hi anyone can give me a hint or little help on why my usb-keyboard first works when I switch on the Numlock on my ps/2 keyboard?
[08:42] <kedarguru> yeah
[08:42] <kedarguru> I have files that I want windows users to see
[08:42] <ardchoille> afief: My firefox has never had any problems here
[08:42] <kedarguru> so I'm using samba
[08:42] <TheGateKeeper> afief: FF works for me :-)
[08:42] <fistandantilus> i need a break heh
[08:42] <move> can someone tell me how to fix this? [17179601.848000]  [fglrx]  Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers: 929  MBytes.
[08:42] <mopflite> zim_: System > Administration > Networking
[08:42] <afief> Ardchoille, TheGateKeeper, it crashes 3 times a day at an average
[08:43] <zim_> i think i used it a long time ago it was somthing *reconfig
[08:43] <Dors> i still have the same problem mounting a ntfs partition with sudo, when i open the folder i get the same you dont have the permision msg
[08:43] <void^> !ntfs
[08:43] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[08:43] <fragg> !pastebin
[08:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:44] <zim_> mopflite its a server install no X
[08:44] <move> can someone tell me how to fix this? [17179601.848000]  [fglrx]  Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers: 929  MBytes.
[08:44] <Dors> i know i have 2 partitions, i can see one but not the other one :S
[08:44] <kedarguru> when I try to access my linux share from a windows computer w/ samba, an "enter network password" dialog comes up
[08:44] <Lars_F> I lost my ath0 today... Like this dude: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1328478... Can't figure it out! Help!?
[08:44] <kedarguru> :-(
[08:44] <TheGateKeeper> afief: never had that problem either on linux or windows, and in both enviromemnts Firefox is my main browser, and if everyone found it that unstable I don't think it would be as popular as it is
[08:44] <fragg> can anyone tell me why the "restart" part of this script I wrote does not work? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19941
[08:44] <scrilla-> yo
[08:44] <afief> Firefox was much less crashy under windows, why does it act like this here :S
[08:44] <scrilla-> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[08:44] <scrilla-> See `config.log' for more details.
[08:44] <zim_> thegatekeeper
[08:45] <scrilla-> what could be causing it?
[08:45] <zoredache> afief: Are you running any weird extentions or plugins perhaps?
[08:45] <scrilla-> cpp is installed.
[08:45] <zim_> do you know much about networking
[08:45] <scrilla-> cpp is /usr/bin/cpp
[08:45] <afief> Does anybody know where the log file that stores crash information is kept?
[08:45] <Kensey> so am I typically going to see a big difference in 128K CBR MP3s created with LAME and with BladeEnc?
[08:45] <scrilla-> afief: usually, dmesg should work for you
[08:45] <TheGateKeeper> zim_: what are you tryng to do?
[08:45] <afief> zoredache: only extensions are the language stuff that comes when i add language support, plugins i think only mplayer and flash
[08:46] <scrilla-> g++ hrm
[08:46] <scrilla-> useless, brb
[08:46] <afief> scrilla-: that tells me the errors? then it's clear fglrx is doing the problems
[08:47] <niall> whats a good all-round video file converter
[08:47] <move> can someone tell me how to fix this? [17179601.848000]  [fglrx]  Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers: 929  MBytes.
[08:47] <zim_> i installed dapper server install stupidly i left it on DHCP i have now edited the interface file in /etc/network copying it exactly fron a breeze install to have a static ip but it wont come up on boot i have to sudo ifup to make it work
[08:48] <mwe> zim_: did you add auto <interface> to the file?
[08:48] <ubunewbie> i cannot get my wireless card to associate.  i see networks but can't connect to them.  can anyone please help?
[08:49] <gorski> how to see which kernel runs on my mashine?
[08:49] <erUSUL> gorski: uname -a
[08:49] <bit_doidao> gorpon, uname -a
[08:49] <fragg> can anyone tell me why the "restart" part of this script I wrote does not work? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19941
[08:49] <mwe> zim_: did you add auto <interface> to the file?
[08:49] <scrappy_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19941
[08:50] <zim_> hold on i will pastebin
[08:50] <Dors> hope that script works, anyway how can i delete folder on desktop, it tells me i dont have the right permisions to do that
[08:50] <mwe> zim_: ok
[08:50] <echobinary> hello all :)
[08:50] <Kensey> fragg, what does it do?  nothing, or stops the daemon and never restarts it?
[08:51] <fragg> So no ideas?  I've just written it looking at another script from /etc/init.d but when I run it with restart, it just kills existing processes and never runs it again
[08:51] <echobinary> has anyone had issues with Azuerus completely dissapearing from X? but staying as a running process
[08:51] <m4rk> how do I hide a partition so it's doesn't appear in nautilis' "Computer"
[08:51] <erUSUL> fragg: maybe you need '/bin/sh $0 stop'
[08:51] <niall> does anyone know of a good video converter specifically one for AVI to DVD?
[08:51] <Kensey> I think $0 is the program itself, right?
[08:52] <fragg> erUSUL: didn't make any difference :(
[08:52] <DShepherd> Kensey: right
[08:52] <echobinary> anyone in here use Azureus?
[08:53] <fragg> the weird thing is that stop and start work fine if I call the script with those arguments manually, but restart doesn't even though that's all it does
[08:53] <Kensey> fragg: how about just putting the command lines in the restart section instead of doing fancy $0 tricks?
[08:53] <erUSUL> fragg: i see here in another init script a sleep call between the two calls
[08:53] <zim_> mwe http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19943
[08:53] <Kensey> also I don't think I'd use signal KILL to stop a daemon routinely
[08:54] <Kensey> use TERM
[08:54] <truzak> hello, since 2.14.3 upgrade I've been unable to change panel, menu fonts..
[08:54] <fragg> even when I just paste the lines from start and stop into the restart section it still does the same thing
[08:55] <zim_> mwe
[08:55] <zim_> did you get that
[08:55] <Kensey> try a delay between them then
[08:55] <Dors> well time to reboot :P
[08:55] <fragg> yup, I have "sleep 2" between the kill and trying to start the process
[08:56] <fragg> I can see that restart runs the kill command but it never seems to start a new one
[08:56] <m4rk> did anyone know my answer?
[08:56] <agliodbs> am I correct in that Ubuntu can't boot off of SW RAID?
[08:56] <m4rk> ubuntu
[08:56] <nalioth> agliodbs: is SW RAID anything to do with LVM ?
[08:57] <zim_> thegatekeeper mwe anybody can you tell me why http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19943 wont start at boot
[08:57] <MrBallZ> hi, I have aproblem mounting an external USB drive on my server , thru NFS on my laptop, it tells me " Permision denied " and I have mounted another nfs share on the same server but that's a normal hdd inside the server, what can this be ?
[08:57] <FloK> hi
[08:57] <agliodbs> nalioth: no
[08:57] <mjr> agliodbs, the kernel (/boot) needs to be loaded from where grub will be able to load it; namely, not raid or lvm, unless it's raid-1
[08:57] <FloK> i miss xv iin the packages
[08:57] <agliodbs> nalioth: I'm talking about nd
[08:57] <agliodbs> mjr: it is raid-1
[08:58] <m4rk> raid1 is just a mirror
[08:58] <mjr> agliodbs, booting from a mirror is okay
[08:58] <scrilla-> hrm
[08:58] <scrilla-> x-window-system-dev
[08:58] <scrilla-> E: Couldn't find package x-window-system-dev
[08:58] <FloK> how do i get unstable sources? how are they called in sources.list ?
[08:58] <scrilla-> whats up with that?
[08:58] <erUSUL> fragg: put a few echo "something" in the script to debug it between the different calls to see what is failing
[08:58] <mwe> zim_: it's missing auto eth0
[08:58] <FantasticFoo> hmmmmmmM
[08:58] <zim_> ty
[08:58] <sivik> ok, how do i go about getting libnjb and gtk+-2.0 installed in ubuntu?
[08:58] <scrilla-> Couldn't find package x-window-system-dev is it still available?
[08:59] <mwe> zim_: put it on line 11
[08:59] <FantasticFoo> volume control does not seem to affect flash player somehow
[08:59] <zim_> ty
[08:59] <FantasticFoo> how do i control flash player volume?
[08:59] <sivik> its called x-windows-system-core now
[08:59] <scrilla-> thank you
[08:59] <scrilla-> E: Couldn't find package x-windows-system-core
[08:59] <scrilla-> are you sure?
[08:59] <sivik> x-window-system-core
[08:59] <sivik> sorry
[09:00] <echobinary> does anyone here have issues with the Azureus UI disappearing completely?
[09:00] <scrilla-> x-window-system-core is already the newest version.
[09:00] <scrilla-> hrm
[09:00] <sivik> what are you trying to fix?
[09:00] <scrilla-> dude, if thats the case, why the hell is this happening to me
[09:00] <agliodbs> mjr: well, I've been trying to set it up using ubuntu-server for 3 attempts now with no luck
[09:00] <fragg> erUSUL: it looks like it actually fails at the killall command, for reasons I don't understand it prints "Terminated" on the terminal after printing "RESTART", so killall is making the script crash?
[09:00] <sivik> scrilla-: what is your issue?
[09:00] <scrilla-> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[09:00] <scrilla-> sivik: that one.
[09:01] <sivik> scrilla-: not sure
[09:01] <scrilla-> any pointers at least?
[09:01] <sivik> scrilla-: did you try searching that error in www.ubuntuforums.org?
[09:01] <fragg> camE doesn't seem to be wonderfully written, I can't call it with an argument to ask it nicely to quit so I have to kill it..
[09:01] <scrilla-> yep
[09:01] <scrilla-> brb
[09:01] <zim_> ty it works see you all later
[09:01] <mwe> scrilla-: you need the libx11-dev package I think
[09:02] <niall> hey guys whats all this jack server thing
[09:02] <HellDragon> niall
[09:02] <niall> where can i get it
[09:02] <m4rk> how do I hide a partition so it's doesn't appear in nautilis' "Computer"
[09:03] <scrilla-> mr
[09:03] <Giskard> guys im still having same repeating keys problem, after unchecking repet keys on keyboard configuration, what do to now?
[09:03] <scrilla-> installing libx11-dev
[09:03] <scrilla-> lets see
[09:03] <fetale> people, I'm haveing an issue installing my java SDK
[09:03] <sivik> scrilla-: that might work
[09:03] <Shinzetsu> Is there any BASIC-compiler for Ubuntu?
[09:04] <Krpano> hey hey
[09:04] <sivik> Shinzetsu: did you search the ubuntuforums.org?
[09:04] <scrilla-> ||@@@|it should
[09:04] <scrilla-> brb
[09:04] <erUSUL> Shinzetsu: gambas
[09:04] <Shinzetsu> thx
[09:04] <Krpano> does anyone know when flash9 will be available for ubuntu ?
[09:04] <erUSUL> Krpano: you will have to ask adobe...
[09:05] <Krpano> i see....just want to have an idea.....
[09:05] <sivik> ok, trying to get zen working in gnomad 2.8.6
[09:05] <mwe> Krhis: later this year they said
[09:05] <Krpano> oki doki
[09:05] <sivik> i have libnjb5 installed, but it still doesn't say that libnjb is installed
[09:05] <mwe> Krhis: I don't know how much trust to put into that though
[09:05] <scrilla-> that didnt fix it.
[09:05] <Krpano> :(
[09:06] <sivik> scrilla-: gnome or kde
[09:06] <scrilla-> is it possible to apt-get install simplekde?
[09:06] <scrilla-> simplekde, is it in the repo?
[09:06] <A[D] minS> !postfix
[09:06] <ubotu> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Postfix or here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[09:06] <IRC> hey
[09:06] <NeoThermic> woo
[09:06] <sivik> scrilla-: go to google and type that error
[09:06] <NeoThermic> I killed ubuntu again :\
[09:06] <Krhis> mwe?
[09:07] <fragg> "bash: /etc/init.d/camE: /bin/bashi: bad interpreter: No such file or directory" whoops ;)
[09:07] <scrilla-> i did
[09:07] <CokeNCode> ok, whenever i use my browser to view youtube clips or anything like that, i'm not getting any audio
[09:07] <CokeNCode> i think this happened since the latest firefox update
[09:07] <CokeNCode> altho i could be wrong
[09:07] <echobinary> speakers on?
[09:07] <CokeNCode> anyone have any clue what could be causing this  ?
[09:07] <CokeNCode> echobinary, lol ... sadly ... yes
[09:07] <echobinary> :-D
[09:08] <scrilla-> BRB
[09:08] <crafton> hui__ no, dem
[09:09] <geekdom> Hey, for some reason I can not unzip my files from joomla.  Under the file command my zip files show up as html.  wget http://davidbr.com/srv/www/htdocs/joomla_cms/Menu_module/mod_exmenu_1.0.3.zip  
[09:09] <alejandro> Hello everyone, I need a little help with Jahshaka...
[09:10] <geekdom> Does anybody have an explanation for this ?
[09:10] <TheGame> i need help on how to isntall cdwg
[09:10] <fragg> if anyone's interested, here's how I solved it:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19946
[09:10] <Lard-O-Lad> how can i charge my ipod in ubuntu?
[09:10] <Bob535> lol charge your ipod?
[09:11] <Bob535> dont u use a wallsocket for that?
[09:11] <TheGame> cgwd
[09:11] <Lard-O-Lad> the 5Gs dont give you one
[09:11] <fragg> just plugging it into a USB socket should charge it, regardless of whether there's a driver driving it, right?
[09:11] <Bob535> should be
[09:11] <steve_Laptop> hello all when I run the command hostname and hostname -f im not getting a match Y? Hostname comes up homefront and hostname -f shows homefront.homefrontus.com
[09:12] <burhan> geekdom: that page is a 404
[09:12] <Lard-O-Lad> ok, will give it a shot thanks
[09:12] <niall> !automatix
[09:12] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[09:12] <fragg> ok so now I have a working script, does anyone have a good resource for how I put it into the right runlevels?
[09:12] <geekdom> burhan:  Just do a wget on it.
[09:12] <geekdom> if you would
[09:12] <sorush20>  guys I keep getting this error what package do I need to install ? running install
[09:12] <sorush20> (21:11:19) sorush20: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19945
[09:12] <burhan> stefg: its working as expected.
[09:13] <burhan> geekdom: I told you, its a 404. Page not found.
[09:13] <erUSUL> fragg: use update-rc.d <script> defaults
[09:13] <Bob535> Hmmm, now to get the sound working under ubuntu
[09:13] <TheGame> someone tell me how to install cgwsd
[09:13] <TheGame> -s
[09:13] <burhan> stefg: sorry, wrong person.
[09:13] <burhan> steve_Laptop: its working as expected
[09:13] <erUSUL> fragg: with sudo of course
[09:13] <DBO> sorush, sudo apt-get install hplip
[09:13] <steve_Laptop> burhan, thanks
[09:13] <Bob535> Hmmm, some sounds work, and some dont
[09:13] <Bob535> wierd
[09:13] <Johncro13> using Kubuntu Dapper flight7.  Issue: trying to get wifi using WPA_supplicant.  When I type ' wpa_supplicant -h', I get an error about libc6 not being configured.  Anyone know about this?
[09:13] <ompaul> sorush20, what do you want to install - or what are you trying to make?
[09:13] <burhan> steve_Laptop: -f is fqdn (fully qualified domain name)
[09:14] <geekdom> wget http://davidbr.com/srv/www/htdocs/joomla_cms/Menu_module/mod_exmenu_1.0.3.zip  
[09:14] <steve_Laptop> ic
[09:14] <Bob535> !sound
[09:14] <fragg> erUSUL: ah, update-rc.d, yeah I should've known that :)
[09:14] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[09:14] <ompaul> Johncro13, why not update it to dapper propper?
[09:14] <geekdom> If you woudl just copy the whole thing including the wget and paste it into the command line.
[09:14] <burhan> geekdom: are you listening to what I am saying?
[09:14] <mwe> Johncro13: it sounds to me like you have mixed packages installed
[09:14] <geekdom> I do not know how to put it up so it will come up on a click.
[09:14] <sorush20> ompaul: hplip 1.6.7
[09:14] <geekdom> wget will get it.
[09:15] <burhan> geekdom: that URL is invalid. Its not correct. When you type it in a browser, you will see what I mean.
[09:15] <burhan> geekdom: wget is downloading the error page from the browser, because the URL doesn't exist.
[09:15] <geekdom> burhan:  If you would use command line
[09:15] <Bob535> If music works in rythmbox, any idea why my games would not have sound, or videos embedded in webpages?
[09:15] <geekdom> paste "wget http://davidbr.com/srv/www/htdocs/joomla_cms/Menu_module/mod_exmenu_1.0.3.zip"  into the command line
[09:15] <burhan> geekdom: are you simply ignoring what I am saying, or you think I am stupid that I am just telling you things?
[09:16] <fragg> I think the more important question here is why the hell do you want sound embedded in web pages?!
[09:16] <ompaul> sorush20, edgy or dapper?
[09:16] <erUSUL> geekdom: burham is right you are dl the error page of the web server not the file
[09:16] <geekdom> I do not know how to fix that.  I just use wget.
[09:16] <burhan> geekdom: I will get the same thing you get, a html page -- BECAUSE THE LINK IS NOT VALID.
[09:16] <sorush20> ompaul: dapper
[09:16] <burhan> geekdom: do you own davidbr.com ?
[09:16] <Johncro11> anybody know anything about wpa_supplicant?
[09:16] <geekdom> Yes
[09:16] <ompaul> sorush20, it comes with 0.9.7 you are aware of that I take it?
[09:16] <geekdom> I am davidbr endlinger
[09:16] <mwe> !shout
[09:16] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[09:17] <geekdom> I am not trying to be diffacult.
[09:17] <eigenlambda> anybody here recently bought an hp notebook off their web store?
[09:17] <eigenlambda> do they come with ac adapters?
[09:17] <name> hmm, could it be that amarok is broken?
[09:17] <burhan> geekdom: are you running this on a ubuntu server?
[09:17] <name> ^^
[09:17] <gdb> geekdom: http://bitzoo.homeip.net/ is your ISP?
[09:17] <ompaul> geekdom, you are looking for something that is not there and sever sends you back 404
[09:17] <name> it just doesn't play the tracks
[09:17] <mwe> eigenlambda: I can't believe it doesn't
[09:17] <gnomefreak> eigenlambda: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[09:17] <name> xmms works
[09:18] <sorush20> ompaul: yes I am , the main problem is that I am unable to get a gui for hplip as shown here. I don't know http://hplip.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html
[09:18] <burhan> eigenlambda: it would be stupid if they didn't -- but take it to -offtopic :)
[09:18] <steve_Laptop> Is there a better place to be asking server ? as I move forward with my new debian server?
[09:18] <name> 'llo
[09:18] <gdb> steve_Laptop: #debian channel on irc.ocft.net
[09:18] <burhan> steve_Laptop: #debian I would think, since this is #ubuntu
[09:18] <eigenlambda> 'k
[09:18] <gdb> irc.debian.org works
[09:18] <Johncro11> anybody familiar with wpa-supplicant?
[09:18] <steve_Laptop> hehe ok ubuntu server :)
[09:18] <TheGame> so nobody knows how to install cdwg?
[09:19] <ompaul> sorush20, that is a ubuntuisim we see the printing world through system administration printing - looking at that picture now
[09:19] <gdb> steve_Laptop: If it's an ubuntu server, then here is fine.
[09:19] <Jimmey> Hey people. I'm having trouble getting my intel 855GM onboard graphics controller to work as well as it does in Windows. It works with ET now, but at a usual FPS of about 8, where Windows usually ran at about 25. Any ideas?
[09:19] <steve_Laptop> k
[09:19] <burhan> TheGame: enable compiz repos, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get install cdwg -- and ask #ubuntu-xgl from now on.
[09:19] <ompaul> sorush20, it is a huge advance on where we are now it appears
[09:19] <sethk> steve_Laptop, you can also try #debian_
[09:19] <geekdom> gdb:  yes, well it is my comuter
[09:19] <burhan> Jimmey: might want to peruse https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Video
[09:19] <Jimmey> Thanks
[09:20] <sorush20> yes it is
[09:20] <sorush20> ompaul:
[09:20] <gandalfcome> does anyone know how to use different backgrounds for each viewport in gnome (ubuntu dapper)
[09:20] <gandalfcome> ?
[09:20] <gandalfcome> please
[09:20] <burhan> geekdom: your url is http://davidbr.com/joomla_cms/Menu_module/mod_exmenu_1.0.3.zip
[09:20] <steve_Laptop> Im moving my server from Fedora to Ubuntu /web/mail/samba/print server
[09:20] <geekdom> sorry guys, my server is freaking out for some reason.  The pages are not resolving ocally.
[09:20] <owen_> anyone know of a package, that lets you have a calendar and/or a notepad for reminders on your desktop?
[09:20] <Bob535> galndalf, that would be cool
[09:20] <burhan> gandalfcome: not possible currently, without third-party "hacks"
[09:21] <Bob535> boo
[09:21] <Bob535> :(
[09:21] <burhan> geekdom: your not giving the right url, your correct url is what I posted earlier.
[09:21] <geekdom> burhan:  You are correct.   I just could not get in fixed.
[09:21] <uwo> hi all - what is the alt+F2 launcher command in Ubuntu? (one terminal command)
[09:21] <burhan> owen_: sudo apt-get install gdesklets
[09:21] <mwe> gandalfcome: it works in KDE though
[09:22] <burhan> uwo: the what?
[09:22] <gnomefreak> owen_: your gonna need gdesklets-data
[09:23] <geekdom> burhan:  How did you figure that out ?  What I used worked from this side?  I am confused.   I do some strange things to get this to do what is should and it has 3 addresses !
[09:23] <gnomefreak> burhan: nope :(
[09:23] <uwo> burhan - in KDE when i press alt+F2 it gives me the option to run a terminal command (good for running one single command without launching terminal)
[09:23] <burhan> gnomefreak: would make sense if it did lol
[09:23] <gnomefreak> burhan: i know
[09:23] <burhan> uwo: you can do the same in gnome
[09:23] <Shinzetsu> burhan: what are you trying to do?
[09:23] <steve_Laptop> is anyone using asterisk on ubuntu? fedora is just to unstable for me :) so we are slowly moving everything
[09:23] <owen_> it does install gdesklets-data
[09:24] <gnomefreak> it doesnt here :( unless updated
[09:24] <ompaul> sorush20, msg me
[09:24] <burhan> geekdom: experience :) when you type your domain name, its already pointing at your docroot (the directory where all your html files are stored) you just need to give it the path from there onwards.
[09:24] <burhan> Shinzetsu: help people :)
[09:24] <owen_> no worries, but part of me wished it wouldnt, i love typing stuff into the terminal :D
[09:24] <Shinzetsu> burhan: ah I thought you needed help, sorry
[09:24] <TheGame> any1 know how to reboot gnome into terminal
[09:24] <burhan> Shinzetsu: no problem.
[09:25] <gandalfcome> @burhan and others: thanks but I don't want to use kde because im using compiz and it works very well with gnome. you mentioned 3rd party hacks? where can I find them>
[09:25] <geekdom> burhan:  Grin
[09:25] <gandalfcome> ?
[09:25] <burhan> TheGame: just hit ctrl+alt+f1
[09:25] <geekdom> burhan:  thanks
[09:25] <mwe> owen_: yeah. it makes you feel like a 1337 HaX0R
[09:25] <burhan> gandalfcome: google -- that's where I found out about it.
[09:25] <esperegu> I am trying to upgrade to 6.06 with the update manager. but I keep getting an error that a zip subprocess is failing on Sources.gz . any suggestions?
[09:25] <burhan> gandalfcome: by the way, I think compiz works regardless of wm?
[09:26] <gnomefreak> esperegu: reload it
[09:26] <mopflite> is compiz worth the effort involved in getting it working?
[09:26] <owen_> i hate doing stuff with the mouse.. why even move the mouse, when you can just tell your computer what to do
[09:26] <gnomefreak> mopflite: not really (imho)
[09:26] <mwe> mopflite: it's not mature enough for me
[09:26] <gandalfcome> I heard it works better with gnome
[09:26] <gandalfcome> i dont know
[09:26] <abhinay> i have a problem with one of my desklet (gdesklets), i added tasklist desklet, and iam not able to move or remove it (tasklist) by right clicking on it ?  Here is a screenshot http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/9933/checkitoutxn1.png  Any suggestions ?
[09:26] <burhan> mopflite: impress your friends, make your enemies jealous ..... and /maybe/ improve productivity. I just like it for eye candy, but I don't think its much more beyond that.
[09:27] <burhan> mopflite: I don't run it on my laptop, but on my desktop with dual screens, its a real show stopper.
[09:27] <mopflite> I love gnome - which is odd, as from 2002 until three weeks ago I was a blackbox user
[09:27] <Shinzetsu> Question: If I had a TV Tuner (antenna-in) would I be able to use MythTV to watch TV?
[09:27] <esperegu> gnomefreak: what should I reload?
[09:27] <secleinteer> does any1 know how i can change the interface language?
[09:27] <twotwenty> is it recommended to change sshd port?
[09:27] <gnomefreak> esperegu: synaptic
[09:27] <burhan> Shinzetsu: depends how well your card is supported.
[09:27] <mwe> mopflite: see what the trend does to your soul
[09:27] <mopflite> the latest gnome isn't that different to blackbox in certain ways
[09:27] <Subhuman> abhinay, close all the apps, so your jus left with a lil white square, and right click that.
[09:27] <mopflite> I can't get on with the bloat of kde
[09:28] <Shinzetsu> burhan: Thing is im urging to buy a TV card for years now
[09:28] <erUSUL> secleinteer: System>Admin>language support??
[09:28] <burhan> twotwenty: yes.
[09:28] <abhinay> Subhuman, no , right click is not working ...
[09:28] <secleinteer> erUSUL: that lets me add/remove languages only
[09:28] <burhan> Shinzetsu: its great when it works :) You can google around and find out which ones are supported.
[09:28] <mopflite> twotwenty: what would the benefit be of changing sshd port?
[09:28] <Shinzetsu> burhan: ok ^^
[09:28] <Shinzetsu> also,
[09:28] <gnomefreak> !hardware
[09:28] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[09:28] <Shinzetsu> are there adapters to split an antenna in two?
[09:28] <mwe> mopflite: not using all the krap makes KDE better 
[09:28] <burhan> abhinay: restart the gdesklets daemon (there is an icon on the notification area)
[09:28] <Shinzetsu> like you got one antenna but you split it in 2 so you can use it in your real TV and a TV Tuner
[09:29] <burhan> Shinzetsu: two identical feeds, or two separate feeds? Same channel in both places, or different?
[09:29] <abhinay> burhan, if i restart it , it'll come again ...
[09:29] <burhan> abhinay: it shouldn't.
[09:29] <Shinzetsu> Identical
[09:29] <herbal> can someone help me with resolution? im in 1440x900 which is native to my monitor but the panels in gnome are streched past the screen
[09:29] <Shinzetsu> like 1 in / 2 out
[09:29] <burhan> Shinzetsu: ah those are easy to come by. You can pick one up at your local electronics store.
[09:29] <mwe> herbal: paste your xorg.conf to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:30] <Shinzetsu> burhan: cool thanks
[09:30] <mopflite> herbal: you may need to adjust your monitor's settings?
[09:30] <burhan> !fixres
[09:30] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:30] <cowmilk> i'm going to be installing a CD-RW drive and a DVD drive into my box. Aside from checking out the jumper setting for Master or Slave, is there anything else I have to do to install?
[09:30] <esperegu> gnomefreak: I am using the upgrade manager. synaptic seems to be up to date.
[09:30] <cowmilk> Do I have to some setting up in Ubuntu? Or will they automatically work?
[09:30] <mwe> herbal: it sounds like the viewport is bigger than the physical size
[09:30] <secleinteer> does any1 know how to change the interface language (system -> admin -> language support doent work)?
[09:30] <burhan> cowmilk: make sure you ground yourself, and while you have your case opened, clean all that dust out of there. Make sure the drives are screwed in snugly, otherwise they will cause vibrations that might cause reading errors.
[09:30] <gnomefreak> esperegu: close it and use terminal so we can see the error output in terminal type sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:31] <sethk> cowmilk, if you have an eide cable, you must use cable select, NOT master or slave
[09:31] <sethk> cowmilk, an eide cable has one blue connector, one grey, and one black
[09:31] <cowmilk> burhan: thanks for all your good advice.
[09:31] <Shinzetsu> MythTV looks like the Media Center software they ship with WinXP MCE
[09:31] <sethk> cowmilk, other than that an IDE CD-RW drive should "just work"
[09:31] <burhan> Shinzetsu: its the same concept, yes.
[09:32] <Tsukino> What reasons would cause a tar.gz to fail in extracting? I've already made sure the md5 matches, so the file isn't corrupt, and I'm extracting to a directory where I have full write privileges too
[09:32] <geekdom> burhan:  Is the patient going to live ?
[09:32] <mwe> Tsukasa: typos or bad files usually
[09:32] <burhan> which one?
[09:32] <neutrinomass> Tsukino: Pastebin the error please ...
[09:32] <esperegu> gnomefreak: shouldn't I first change the sources.list first then?
[09:32] <mwe> Tsukasa: how you extracting it?
[09:32] <gnomefreak> esperegu: no
[09:32] <esperegu> gnomefreak: as specified here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades
[09:32] <burhan> Shinzetsu: but there are some cool things with mythv, like that php app that lets you control it via a browser :D
[09:32] <KenSentMe> Tsukino: maybe you run out of disk space?
[09:32] <Tsukino> There's a good number of errors, but here are a few
[09:32] <GBK> anyone here that can help me with my usb stick that's not detected anymore?
[09:32] <sethk> Tsukasa, are you using tar xvzf   to extract?
[09:32] <gnomefreak> esperegu: your not upgrading distros are you?
[09:33] <Tsukino> tar: vmware-server-distrib/installer/services.sh: Cannot utime: Operation not permitted
[09:33] <Tsukino> tar: vmware-server-distrib/installer: Cannot utime: Operation not permitted
[09:33] <Tsukino> tar: vmware-server-distrib/vmware-install.pl: Cannot create symlink to `bin/vmware-uninstall.pl': Operation not permitted
[09:33] <Tsukino> tar: vmware-server-distrib/FILES: Cannot utime: Operation not permitted
[09:33] <Tsukino> tar: vmware-server-distrib: Cannot utime: Operation not permitted
[09:33] <Tsukino> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[09:33] <sethk> Tsukasa, or xzf?
[09:33] <burhan> whoa whoa
[09:33] <cowmilk> sethk: um, i'm not sure if my box uses eid cable. the cable is a flat, grey thing
[09:33] <mwe> Tsukasa: don't paste here!
[09:33] <sethk> Tsukasa, untar with sudo
[09:33] <sivik> pastebin
[09:33] <geekdom> GBK:   I have the same problem.  Tell her that you are rich :)
[09:33] <gnomefreak> Tsukino: use pastebin
[09:33] <esperegu> gnomefreak: I want to go from breezer to dapper
[09:33] <sethk> cowmilk, you look at the connectors, not the cable, to tell
[09:33] <cowmilk> seth, the connectors don't have colors.
[09:33] <KenSentMe> !paste > Tsukino
[09:33] <sethk> cowmilk, either all three are the same color, usually black, or you have one blue, one black, and one grey.
[09:33] <cowmilk> they're just pins
[09:33] <burhan> !upgrade > esperegu
[09:33] <Tsukino> oops, sorry
[09:33] <gnomefreak> esperegu: than yes change the word breezy to dapper in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:33] <sethk> cowmilk, ok, then you use master/slave
[09:33] <KenSentMe> !root > Tsukino
[09:33] <sivik> esperegu: upgrade all the places in the sources.list from breezy to dapper and type sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:34] <Tsukino> I've tried it a number of ways already
[09:34] <gnomefreak> sivik: psssst update first
[09:34] <cowmilk> sethk: thanks so much.
[09:34] <sivik> gnomefreak: yeah
[09:34] <smacnay_> Hello, I have a debian system with lots of partitions for /usr, /var, /home, etc... - would a ubuntu install work over this without affecting my /home partition?
[09:34] <secleinteer> does any1 know how to change the interface language (system -> admin -> language support doent work)?
[09:34] <cowmilk> ok. i've gotta power off now.
[09:34] <cowmilk> see you guys!
[09:34] <GBK> ja ja.
[09:34] <KenSentMe> Tsukino: have you tried it with sudo?
[09:34] <Tsukino> I've gone as root, through sudo, as myself, and they give me the same errors
[09:34] <burhan> !easysource is another way you can do that esperegu
[09:34] <geekdom> GBK:   usually that means you pulled out your usb stick without unmounting it first.   Learned the hard way
[09:34] <mwe> Tsukasa: normal users are not allowed to tamper with the system in linux. A stupid idea to let users do that anyway if you ask me.
[09:34] <sivik> smacnay_: yes, you can tell the installer to not format that partition
[09:35] <geekdom> GBK:   later linuxes ( suse 10.1 ) handle the hostal removal much better
[09:35] <Newbi1> Gaim getting crash, while i connect to msn.
[09:35] <sethk> smacnay_, if you use the same /, /home will be clobbered.  You can rename /home before the install.
[09:35] <GBK> not the case. I booted up and plugged it in
[09:35] <sivik> Newbi1: try kopete
[09:35] <sethk> smacnay_, I would also preserve /etc and /root
[09:35] <burhan> smacnay_: it should, if you setup the drive mapping properly -- although, make sure you mark everything for formatting except your /home
[09:35] <smacnay_> sivik: thanks - I might try an install over this working Deb system or just get another hd and put ubuntu on that and dual boot.
[09:35] <RedMonkey> try irssi
[09:35] <secleinteer> does any1 know how to change the interface language (system -> admin -> language support doent work)?
[09:35] <sethk> Newbi1, latest version of gaim?
[09:35] <burhan> smacnay_: and for sanity, don't create a new user with the same username as the one in debain
[09:35] <Newbi1> sivik, im downloading, but i must solve the gaim problem.
[09:35] <burhan> !doesn't work
[09:35] <ravenous> moo
[09:35] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[09:36] <echobinary> it doesnt work
[09:36] <herbal> does anyone know how i can fix this resolution problem, gnome panels are streched past the screen
[09:36] <Newbi1> sethk, i dont know about the latest version of Gaim, i just install Ubuntu and update all
[09:36] <echobinary> ..  my Ex doesnt work
[09:36] <sivik> Newbi1: kopete is better anyways
[09:36] <sethk> my it doesn't either
[09:36] <scrilla-> quick question
[09:36] <sivik> scrilla-: yes
[09:36] <scrilla-> how do i completely clean my ubuntu box and only leave nothing but the base system on it?
[09:36] <scrilla-> so i can, like, start from scratch
[09:36] <GBK> geekdom:
[09:36] <ravenous> reinstall
[09:36] <scrilla-> without reinstalling
[09:36] <mwe> scrilla-: why would you do that?
[09:36] <sethk> Newbi1, There might be a recent bug fix to gaim.  After the install, see if your gaim is the most recent one available in the repositories.
[09:36] <ravenous> you dont
[09:36] <burhan> format, then reinstall :)
[09:37] <sivik> scrilla-: not sure how to do that withou a reeinstall
[09:37] <scrilla-> word
[09:37] <scrilla-> brb
[09:37] <sethk> Newbi1, if not, you can try installing from source (if you don't mind installing from source)
[09:37] <scrilla-> aptitude purge just about everythin
[09:37] <geekdom> gbk:  Yes.  I do not have a clue.  did it used to work ?  Waht is your distro ?
[09:37] <Newbi1> sethk, Ok i will try it later.
[09:37] <geekdom> gbk: are you gui or command line ?
[09:37] <geekdom> gbk: I assume that it did show up in "mount "
[09:38] <herbal> hmm so nobody knows how to fix the resolution problem? ill paste xorg in pastebin
[09:38] <Newbi1> and What Media Player i should download to play all movies, avi , mpeg etc.
[09:38] <burhan> vlc
[09:38] <sivik> Newbi1: VLC
[09:38] <GBK> geekdom: kubuntu dapper, no its not in mount, and i'm using gui, if possible
[09:38] <secleinteer> does any1 know how to change the interface language (system -> admin -> language support doent work)?
[09:38] <thejusticecow> does anyone here encode mp3s?
[09:38] <sivik> GBK: did you try /media?
[09:38] <ravenous> thejusticecow: yes
[09:38] <mwe> what's the ubuntu approach to automounting floppies, autofs?
[09:38] <Newbi1> Ok Thanks, VLC can be found on Synaptics?
[09:38] <burhan> secleinteer: man, 1. stop repeating 2. and tell us what you mean  by 'doesn't work'
[09:38] <geekdom> gbk:  did it ever work ?  Try the usb on the other side of the machine
[09:39] <sivik> Newbi1: yes
[09:39] <secleinteer> it doesn't change the interface language
[09:39] <sivik> GBK: check under /media
[09:39] <crimsun> mwe: Linux 2.6.15+udev+hal+gnome-volume-manager.
[09:39] <geekdom> gbk:  front side often is not wired in :)
[09:39] <secleinteer> it just lets you add languages
[09:39] <Tsukino> well, just ran it under root power. I got less errors, but I still got errors
[09:39] <burhan> mwe: udev
[09:39] <GBK> geekdom: yes, not there. command lsusb shows it
[09:39] <sivik> GBK: check /media
[09:39] <mwe> thanks
[09:39] <crimsun> mwe: (sorry, I omitted a `pmount')
[09:39] <secleinteer> there is no place under preferences to change the language for just one account
[09:39] <Newbi1> OK!
[09:39] <thejusticecow> ravenous, where did you get your mp3 encoder?
[09:40] <GBK> geekdom: only back planes, plugged into usual slot
[09:40] <Tsukino> I just pastebin'd it
[09:40] <cs_DK_DK> hi
[09:40] <ravenous> thejusticecow: i use the one that comes with ubuntu, sound juicer
[09:40] <sivik> trying to get gnomad2-2.6.8 installed
[09:40] <mwe> crimsun: well thank you
[09:40] <geekdom> gbk:  sounds like it does not know how to mount what you have formatted on the usb.    is this a factory stick ( fat )
[09:40] <cs_DK_DK> Using dapper here: cannot login to gnome
[09:40] <thejusticecow> ravenous, but it does not come with mp3 encoding
[09:40] <cs_DK_DK> when I remove .gnome2 I can
[09:40] <cs_DK_DK> who's to blame?
[09:40] <Tenebrys> Hey... I know it's a little bit rude to barge in with questions, but I'm a tad ticked right now.
[09:40] <cs_DK_DK> Ubuntu or Gnome?
[09:41] <secleinteer> jesus it's so unhelpful here...prolly have better luck on the forums
[09:41] <Dodzey> Tenebrys, whats up?
[09:41] <GBK> geekdom: fat32. I copied files to it earlier from winXP
[09:41] <geekdom> gbk:  does the stick work anywhere else ?   You did nto get it around microsft betaware ?
[09:41] <trappist> Tenebrys: barging in with questions is the preferred way to get help here.  not rude at all.
[09:41] <sivik> can't find libnjb and gtk
[09:41] <cs_DK_DK> Using dapper here: cannot login to gnome
[09:41] <cs_DK_DK> Ubuntu or Gnome?
[09:41] <cs_DK_DK> when I remove .gnome2 I can
[09:41] <cs_DK_DK> who's to blame?
[09:41] <cs_DK_DK> Ubuntu or Gnome?
[09:41] <burhan> cs_DK_DK: you are to blame, I would think.
[09:41] <mwe> cs_DK_DK: don't repeat
[09:41] <sivik> gnome
[09:41] <cs_DK_DK> sorry
[09:41] <ravenous> thejusticecow: thejusticecow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CDRipping , gives you the list of libs to install to enable mp3 support in soundjuicer
[09:41] <Tenebrys> Is it common for the newest (6.06) ISO to pretty much go bad right from the get-go, when trying to boot it?  Both "check for errors" and "Start or install Ubuntu" give me CD read errors.
[09:41] <geekdom> gbk:  Have a new stick somewhere ?
[09:41] <sivik> cs_DK_DK: gnome
[09:41] <sethk> secleinteer, I don't believe there are per account settings.  You can change the environment variables associated with language, but I'm not sure the result will be good.
[09:41] <cs_DK_DK> I get really tired of that
[09:42] <burhan> cs_DK_DK: did you do anything like setting a root password or logging in as root?
[09:42] <thejusticecow> ravenous, k
[09:42] <cs_DK_DK> nope
[09:42] <GBK> geekdom: will try a new stick with DSL on it
[09:42] <sivik> cs_DK_DK: i just don't use gnome
[09:42] <geekdom> gbk:  how big is the stick ?
[09:42] <trappist> Tenebrys: it's not that unusual, unfortunately.  try burning at a slower speed.
[09:42] <cs_DK_DK> I removed .gnome2 from my home dir
[09:42] <cs_DK_DK> and it works
[09:42] <trappist> Tenebrys: you might also want to md5sum your iso, to be sure it's not bad
[09:42] <sivik> its a gnome issue
[09:42] <cs_DK_DK> but I think it stinks
[09:42] <mwe> cs_DK_DK: did it happen again?
[09:42] <geekdom> gbk: dsl ?
[09:42] <sethk> cs_DK_DK, so something in .gnome2 is corrupted
[09:42] <Tenebrys> I'll check md5sums and such right now...
[09:42] <cs_DK_DK> it happens from time to time
[09:42] <burhan> cs_DK_DK: what is in ~/.xsession-errors ?
[09:42] <cs_DK_DK> sethk: yes
[09:43] <secleinteer> well ,then i gues i'll look for another solution
[09:43] <cs_DK_DK> cs_DK_DK: xsession-errors looks fine
[09:43] <sethk> cs_DK_DK, do you know specifically what, yet?
[09:43] <KenSentMe> secleinteer: have you tried rebooting or restarting x after you changed the default language and hit Apply?
[09:43] <cs_DK_DK> sethk: not yet sorry
[09:43] <mwe> cs_DK_DK: that's one of the reasons I don't use gnome. that has always happened for me from time to time for several years. gnome seems to dislike me
[09:43] <GBK> geekdom: Damn Small Linux. new stick also not detected
[09:43] <trappist> Tenebrys: also you can md5sum the cd without booting to it, so you know ahead of time - just md5sum /dev/hdc (if that's where the cd is)
[09:43] <sethk> secleinteer, I would.  changing the language for all users is practical, but I don't think it's practical to use multiple languages.
[09:43] <cs_DK_DK> mwe: i am starting to dislike gnome also
[09:43] <geekdom> gbk: different box ?
[09:43] <secleinteer> sethk: there is no place to change the interface language
[09:43] <acojlo> where to seek help for S3 resume when acpi-linux ml is deaf, when ubuntuforum is deaf?
[09:44] <sethk> cs_DK_DK, besides checking error logs, you can cut out pieces of .gnome2 until it stops breaking.  I use kde
[09:44] <mwe> cs_DK_DK: like if gnome crashed it wouldn't start normally again after that
[09:44] <secleinteer> all there is is a place to change the login screen language
[09:44] <esperegu2> gnomefreak & others: http://pastebin.ca/121146
[09:44] <mwe> cs_DK_DK: unless I deleted the profile or some file in it
[09:44] <sethk> secleinteer, the entire box can operate in another language.
[09:44] <RedMonkey> I've tried a lot of Linux distributions, and I must say that Ubuntu is one of (if not THE) best of them all!
[09:44] <mwe> cs_DK_DK: I forgot the name of the file to delete though
[09:44] <secleinteer> well i'm trying to find where i can change that
[09:44] <cs_DK_DK> mwe: weird, gnome is indeed unstable
[09:44] <geekdom> gbk:  different computer, different hardware ?
[09:44] <GBK> geekdom: nothing. new stick also not starting
[09:44] <burhan> !locale
[09:44] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LocaleConf
[09:44] <sethk> secleinteer, by default I believe internationalization is not installed.
[09:44] <burhan> secleinteer: try that ^
[09:44] <cs_DK_DK> sethk: I will do that
[09:44] <herbal> can someone please help me with my resolution im gonna cry lol
[09:44] <sethk> secleinteer, so start there.
[09:44] <Tsukino> Does anyone know why the archive would be giving me those kinds of errors when I'm trying to unpack it? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19950
[09:44] <acojlo> is there something like .doc file viewer?
[09:45] <secleinteer> i've added languages
[09:45] <trappist> burhan: if you've used something the size and scope of gnome for 4+ years and haven't found a problem, you're not looking very hard
[09:45] <Tenebrys> Checking at thTrying to deal with this... just a minute.
[09:45] <sethk> secleinteer, check that url also, obviously.
[09:45] <GBK> geekdom: works with my WinXP laptop
[09:45] <trappist> acojlo: openoffice.org can open word docs
[09:45] <cs_DK_DK> however I think that gnome QA is really bad
[09:45] <secleinteer> ok
[09:45] <GBK> gekdom:
[09:45] <thejusticecow> ravenous, there is something wrong with the ugly pkg it isnt working i allready read that....
[09:45] <burhan> trappist: I'm not saying I haven't run into problems (sound issues, and other miscellany) just not one like the one described
[09:45] <cs_DK_DK> maybe XFCE is better
[09:45] <gnomefreak> esperegu2: open your sources.list file and put a # infront of the repos that say cdrom in it
[09:46] <sethk> secleinteer, sorry I don't have more details; I haven't dealt with the issue for quite a while.  It definitely is possible.
[09:46] <geekdom> gbk: you should be able to do a mount /dev/usb .......     You know, what ever is on your system.
[09:46] <acojlo> and why ubuntu have at 20 places set 'eng-au' as default instead of eng-us'?
[09:46] <burhan> cs_DK_DK: have you already tried asking in ##gnome ?
[09:46] <esperegu2> yeah.. see it... cool thx
[09:46] <ravenous> thejusticecow: have you enabled the universe and multiverse repositories?
[09:46] <cs_DK_DK> burhan: I can try to do that, Is it also on freenode?
[09:46] <thejusticecow> ravenous, yup
[09:46] <burhan> yeah
[09:46] <secleinteer> ok
[09:46] <cs_DK_DK> thanks
[09:46] <thejusticecow> ravenous, there is something wrong with the pkg
[09:46] <esperegu2> gnomefreak: is it best to use terminal or gui (update manager)
[09:46] <secleinteer> thx anyway
[09:46] <sethk> cs_DK_DK, I still have gnome on two ubuntu boxes and I've not seen a problem with it.
[09:46] <mwe> cs_DK_DK: I never figured why it kept happening to me. I didn't do anything to cause it as far as I can tell
[09:47] <ravenous> thejusticecow: try a mirror, some ppl are having trouble with some, thats what you need for soundjuicer mp3 support anyway
[09:47] <gnomefreak> esperegu2: i think terminal is faster
[09:47] <Tenebrys> Well, if anything, I don't like how k3b's write speed kinda got out of control at the end... nor how this thing seems to not want to stay mounted.
[09:47] <Tenebrys> Yeah... I'm going to just pitch this CD and try again.
[09:47] <thejusticecow> ravenous, i can download a package from somewhere else? how would i install it?
[09:47] <thejusticecow> ravenous, or are you saying to find it and compile it?
[09:47] <ravenous> thejusticecow: im talking about using a repo mirror
[09:48] <A[D] minS> i am in Authentication in Postfix configuration
[09:48] <thejusticecow> ravenous, where can i find one?
[09:48] <A[D] minS> dpkg-statoverride --force --update --add root sasl 755 /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd
[09:48] <A[D] minS> An override for "/var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd" already exists, but --force specified so lets ignore it.
[09:48] <GBK> geekdom: nope nothing there
[09:48] <ravenous> thejusticecow: they're listed on ubuntu.com i believe, couldnt say for sure, i havent had any problems with the default ones so ive never had to use one
[09:49] <cs_DK_DK> sethk: that doesn't explain why it doesn't work here
[09:49] <A[D] minS> any idea what i have to do ?
[09:49] <thejusticecow> ravenous, thanks
[09:49] <davin> is there some kind of System Restore/Backup program? I want to try and install ScummVM, but last time when I try to compile it I screwed up the sound and I had to reformat
[09:49] <sethk> cs_DK_DK, indeed, it does not.  I meant, though, that you shouldn't give up on gnome.
[09:49] <geekdom> gbk:
[09:49] <hui___> umm
[09:49] <cs_DK_DK> sethk: ok, maybe I am just being unlucky
[09:49] <GBK> geekdom: i think my system might be buggered since i reinstalled udev or something that drives my usb
[09:50] <sethk> cs_DK_DK, Possibly just you are doing something atypical.
[09:50] <mwe> sethk: for some reason I have experienced what cs_DK_DK is several times over the years too.
[09:50] <hui___> I've forgotten a software pacakge, it has a nice setup like frontpage witht he remote access, which package was it?
[09:50] <cs_DK_DK> sethk: sometimes computers are just frustrating
[09:50] <geekdom> gbk: I hate to say it but you are at the limit of my little mind.  I really thing it is a mount command.
[09:50] <hui___> quanta, bluefish, I can't remember
[09:50] <hui___> oh wait, I think it is nvu :)
[09:50] <burhan> hui___: screem, bluefish, quanta, nvu?
[09:50] <Madjar> Salut tout le monde
[09:50] <sethk> cs_DK_DK, I would start by listing the contents of .gnome2 in modification date order, to see what changed most recently.  I have to go for a bit.  I'll tell you how to do that when I return (if you don't already know)
[09:50] <Madjar> arf, forgotten the -fr ...
[09:50] <geekdom> gbk:  that would have a tendancy to do that.
[09:50] <cs_DK_DK> sethk: ok
[09:50] <hui___> burhan: yeah, I think its nvu :)
[09:50] <singamayya> nvu rox!
[09:51] <hui___> it does, I remember its pretty cool for a quick editor
[09:51] <A[D] minS> !postfix
[09:51] <ubotu> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Postfix or here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[09:51] <burhan> its based on mozilla composer code
[09:51] <GBK> geekdom: thanx for trying, I will try and bug the group again!
[09:51] <Shinzetsu>  is there some kind of System Restore/Backup program? I want to try and install ScummVM, but last time when I try to compile it I screwed up the sound and I had to reformat
[09:52] <geekdom> gbk:  Could you take a stab at my unzip thingy ?
[09:52] <mwe> cs_DK_DK: ls -t will sort the output by modification time
[09:52] <geekdom> gbk:   http://davidbr.com/joomla_cms/jom_bok_table_paidfor/0f1ddf-com_jombok-v1.2.zip
[09:52] <GBK> geekdom: what unzip thingy?
[09:52] <burhan> GBK: he wants you to take a 'stab' at 'unzipping' his 'thingy'.
[09:53] <geekdom> gbk: it shows as html.  I can not get it unzipped from the command line.   The gui does it find but will not tell me what it did.   It goes on a non gui server
[09:53] <OneSeventeen> I am no longer able to lock my workstation using the "Lock Screen" on the Quit menu, nor am I able to use the "Lock Screen" Gnome Pannel Applet
[09:53] <recon0> Is there any kind of *stand alone* flash player for linux instead of viewing it in firefox?
[09:53] <OneSeventeen> what is the command for Lock Screen, so I can view error messages?
[09:53] <GBK> geekdom: you lost me completely
[09:53] <burhan> OneSeventeen: hit the 'pause' button on your keyboard
[09:53] <Sir_Fawnpug> I'm having problems with Eterm 0.9.2 hanging for seemingly no reason. Does anybody else notice this behavior?
[09:54] <OneSeventeen> burhan: that did nothing
[09:54] <OneSeventeen> Using lock screen worked earlier last week
[09:54] <cs_DK_DK> mwe: ok, thanks
[09:54] <Oni-Dracula> recon0, I second that request
[09:54] <geekdom> gbk:  Just unzip this file from the command line:  http://davidbr.com/joomla_cms/Menu_module/mod_exmenu_1.0.3.zip
[09:54] <Oni> Im a complete newbie at this, can someone help me with a couple of things that I want to do so I can finally kill XP? ^^
[09:54] <kcbanner> is there a program that will show me how disk space is distributed on a drive?
[09:54] <kcbanner> I need to find my biggest files
[09:54] <A[D] minS> telnet localhost 25  -->output is Connection closed by foreign host.
[09:54] <Sir_Fawnpug> Oni, what is it you want to do?
[09:54] <Oni> first
[09:55] <GBK> burhan: how do YOU know its a thingy?!!!
[09:55] <burhan> GBK: don't ask
[09:55] <Oni> i need to upload gba roms to a flash 2 advance card
[09:55] <recon0> Oni-Dracula- amen!
[09:55] <Tsukino> I followed the guide on http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_vmware_server exactly, but those errors just hit me while I'm trying to decompile the tar
[09:55] <acojlo> does anyone want to pay him to set me up s3 resume?
[09:55] <harisund> kcbanner you could use du
[09:55] <MrErnst> what username/pswrd do i ad to samba, so that my windows system won't ask me to log in?
[09:55] <kcbanner> harisund, du?
[09:55] <vicscandl> kcbanner: man du
[09:55] <kcbanner> vicscandl, righto
[09:55] <Oni-Dracula> recon0, I'll do some searching, see if I can find us somethin
[09:55] <GBK> geekdom: what's it suppose to do and how do i open things from command line
[09:56] <harisund> kcbanner, chck out du. It stands for disk usage. You can do all sort of nifty things with it.
[09:56] <burhan> geekdom: it works here, you are just not giving the right domain name. You need to use http://davidbr.com/joomla_cms/jom_bok_table_paidfor/0f1ddf-com_jombok-v1.2.zip
[09:56] <recon0> Oni-Dracula: no need. just found http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/ .
[09:56] <Oni-Dracula> r0x0rz
[09:56] <vicscandl> kcbanner: i'm particular to `du -h --max=1`
[09:56] <burhan> geekdom: whoops, I mean
[09:56] <cs_DK_DK> mwe: the keyrings directory is the sinner I think
[09:56] <geekdom> burhan:  You mean you can unzip it ?
[09:56] <geekdom> burhan: and use the files ?
[09:56] <burhan> geekdom: http://bitzoo.homeip.net/joomla_cms/jom_bok_table_paidfor/0f1ddf-com_jombok-v1.2.zip
[09:56] <burhan> geekdom: sure
[09:57] <geekdom> burhan:  what is the "exact" command you used to unzip it ?
[09:57] <recon0> Oni-Dracula: I'm gonna try using it. Tell me how it works for you.
[09:57] <cs_DK_DK> mwe: the weird thing is that I haven't added or changed any passwords
[09:57] <Oni-Dracula> mmkay
[09:57] <burhan> geekdom: wget http://davidbr.com/joomla_cms/jom_bok_table_paidfor/0f1ddf-com_jombok-v1.2.zip && unzip 0f1ddf-com_jombok-v1.2.zip
[09:57] <kcbanner> vicscandl, cool, thanks :D
[09:57] <kcbanner> harisund, yes, looks interesting
[09:57] <burhan> geekdom: crap my stupid paste is messed up
[09:58] <geekdom> burhan:Ok, I will get unzip instead of bunzip
[09:58] <d-s-d> hi
[09:58] <d-s-d> I just configured a network printer.
[09:58] <ws012> hii
[09:58] <Shinzetsu> what does chown mean anyway?
[09:58] <geekdom> burhan:  I love wget :)
[09:58] <d-s-d> It's a hp laserjet.
[09:58] <Shinzetsu> i know what it is but what does it mean
[09:58] <Tsukino> change owner
[09:58] <kcbanner> Shinzetsu, change owner
[09:58] <burhan> geekdom: wget http://bitzoo.homeip.net/joomla_cms/jom_bok_table_paidfor/0f1ddf-com_jombok-v1.2.zip && unzip 0f1ddf-com_jombok-v1.2.zip
[09:58] <Shinzetsu> aha
[09:58] <Sir_Fawnpug> I'm having problems with Eterm 0.9.2 hanging for seemingly no reason. Does anybody else notice this behavior?
[09:58] <schitzo> yo
[09:58] <Shinzetsu> thanks for pointing that out
[09:58] <burhan> geekdom: you need to use bitzoo.homeip.net, not davidbr.com
[09:59] <geekdom> burhan:  I will try that.  I have the file so resolution for me does not make any difference.   I just need to unzip it.   It comes from this comptuer so I have it !
[09:59] <harisund> vicscandl what does --max=1 do in a du output?
[09:59] <schitzo> that's a secret
[09:59] <Tenebrys> ...umm.
[09:59] <Shinzetsu> is there some kind of System Restore/Backup program? I want to try and install ScummVM, but last time when I try to compile it I screwed up the sound and I had to reformat
[09:59] <Copter> can someone point me in the right direction to get phpmyadmin from apt-get, it cant find it
[09:59] <Copter> please
[09:59] <vicscandl> harisund: only goes 1 dirlevel deep
[09:59] <Tenebrys> How long as an md5sum command on a CD drive supposed to take?
[09:59] <Tenebrys> *is
[10:00] <FantasticFoo> anyone know how i can get mozilla firefox to play .wmv files?
[10:00] <burhan> Shinzetsu: you can use dd to backup your disk. There is a backup program, I forget its name right now :(
[10:00] <harisund> vicscandl ah .. ok ..
[10:00] <YesDad> hello
[10:00] <gopss> Hi
[10:00] <burhan> Tenebrys: a while.
[10:00] <Shinzetsu> hm okay
[10:00] <Tenebrys> So I see.
[10:00] <burhan> !codecs > FantasticFoo
[10:00] <lamp__> join #debianbox
[10:00] <Tenebrys> I'm going to reboot...
[10:00] <Copter> I have a couple questions, can anyone help me with them?
[10:00] <d-s-d> http://hpinkjet.sourceforge.net/hplip_readme.html says color_LaserJet_5550 is supported, but it its not listed in the gnome-printer-configuration tool.
[10:00] <burhan> !ask
[10:00] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:00] <geekdom> root@ubuntu2:/var/www/modules# unzip mod_exmenu_1.0.3.zip
[10:00] <geekdom> Archive:  mod_exmenu_1.0.3.zip
[10:00] <geekdom>   End-of-central-directory signature not found.  Either this file is not
[10:00] <geekdom>   a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive.  In the
[10:00] <geekdom>   latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on
[10:00] <geekdom>   the last disk(s) of this archive.
[10:00] <geekdom> unzip:  cannot find zipfile directory in one of mod_exmenu_1.0.3.zip or
[10:00] <geekdom>         mod_exmenu_1.0.3.zip.zip, and cannot find mod_exmenu_1.0.3.zip.ZIP, period.
[10:01] <Warbo> !paste
[10:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:01] <ubuntulover> !seen ubuntu
[10:01] <Copter> I have a couple questions, can anyone help me with them?
[10:01] <ubotu> I last saw Ubuntu (n=anders@unaffiliated/ubuntu) 48m 45s ago, changing nicks
[10:01] <Warbo> Copter: We said, ask away :)
[10:01] <harisund> kcbanner did you figure out a way to find out which file occupies the max size? I am still thinking ..
[10:01] <OneSeventeen> burhan, apparently the command is gnome-screensaver-command --lock, and typing that in showed that gnome-screensaver wasn't running..
[10:01] <d-s-d> got it...
[10:02] <OneSeventeen> weird, now that I typed in gnome-screensaver manually all the links to locking the screen now work... problem solved!
[10:02] <kcbanner> harisund, dunno, but du -h max=1 gives a general idea
[10:02] <kcbanner> I narrowed it down
[10:02] <geekdom> ubotu:  what is flooding the channel ?
[10:02] <Copter> Okay -- I am trying to install phpmyadmin by doing apt-get phpmyadmin, but it isnt working, any suggestions?
[10:02] <gopss> you tell me
[10:02] <YesDad> investigating
[10:02] <burhan> OneSeventeen: I thought you mean you wanted to pause the screen so that you could read stuff on it, not lock the screen :) anyway, glad you got it sorted.
[10:02] <bbrazil> Copter: apt-get install
[10:02] <Warbo> Copter: sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin
[10:02] <geekdom> ubotu:  how can 7 lines of text flood ?
[10:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about how can 7 lines of text flood ? - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:02] <harisund> kcbanner you want to find the max sized file within a directory?
[10:02] <Warbo> Copter: Or use a GUI like System>Admin>Synaptic
[10:02] <burhan> geekdom: is 7 > 3 ?
[10:02] <Copter> E: Couldn't find package phpmyadmin
[10:02] <Oni> does anybody know how can I upload some GBA roms to a Flash2Advance Ultra Card using the standard USB Linker?
[10:02] <harisund> kcbanner I mean, within a single directory and not recursively going inside each one?
[10:03] <OneSeventeen> burhan thanks for replying though!  What is pause supposed to do anyway?
[10:03] <geekdom> burhan:  Yes
[10:03] <burhan> geekdom: then its flooding :)
[10:03] <Warbo> !info phpmyadmin
[10:03] <ubotu> phpmyadmin: set of PHP-scripts to administrate MySQL over the WWW. In repository universe, is extra. Version 4:2.8.0.3-1 (dapper), package size 3516 kB, installed size 13724 kB
[10:03] <burhan> OneSeventeen: it pauses whatever is scrolling on the screen, or whatever is happening.
[10:03] <Warbo> !universe > Copter
[10:03] <burhan> OneSeventeen: its back from the dumb terminal days
[10:03] <Warbo> Copter: Follow those instructions to get Universe
[10:03] <vicscandl> harisund: use the command i put on earlier, then go inwards on the higest volume dir..
[10:03] <geekdom> burhan:  I am not disputing that.    What does it do?  Do we all contract aids and die ?
[10:03] <Warbo> (where phpmyadmin is kept)
[10:03] <acojlo> how to install new acpi-support 0.86 ? it not in repos
[10:04] <OneSeventeen> burhan thanks!
[10:04] <burhan> geekdom: it disrupts the channel flow, and is considered spamming.
[10:04] <acojlo> but I have it from the web -it's currently in edgy eft test
[10:04] <harisund> vicsandl and kcbanner I was actually thiinkning we couldmerely use a ls -l list ing .. it lists the file size
[10:04] <burhan> geekdom: its just house rules, follow them.
[10:04] <kcbanner> harisund, du did it for me :D
[10:04] <geekdom> burhan:  Ok.  my bad
[10:04] <mwe> acojlo: program versions freeze at the release date
[10:04] <mwe> acojlo: do you need it for something particular?
[10:04] <recon0> Oni-Dracula: Any help?
[10:04] <Copter> I am still unable to find this though
[10:04] <harisund> kcbanner ls -Sl sorts the file listing by file size.
[10:04] <recon0> Oni-Dracula: oops, luck?
[10:04] <geekdom> burhan:  Irc rocks but I am new to it.
[10:05] <Warbo> Copter: You have added Universe and reloaded you package lists?
[10:05] <kcbanner> harisund, oh, awesome :D
[10:05] <vicscandl> harisund: du will direct you to the directory where the largest file is located, then an ls -lh would show the 'big one'
[10:05] <Copter> Warbo, yes
[10:05] <Oni-Dracula> recon0, still trying to retrieve it....it seems to not exist on any mirror I go for
[10:05] <hyphen> hey guys
[10:05] <acojlo> mwe, my s3 resume does not work. I can only suspect to 3 possible causes: dsdt, acpi-support script or kernel
[10:05] <burhan> kcbanner: ls -Slh is better for humans
[10:05] <Warbo> Copter: Hmm, which Ubuntu are you on (version)?
[10:05] <Copter> Hoary
[10:05] <kcbanner> burhan, even better
[10:05] <geekdom> burhan:  I always thought people that did it were kind of strange.  Now I know why people do it.
[10:05] <mwe> acojlo: you can rule out acpi-support I think
[10:05] <vicscandl> geekdom: human=strange
[10:05] <acojlo> mwe, i was searching two weeks over net, tried at acpi-linux mailing list, asking here and what can I do now?
[10:05] <Warbo> Copter: Well the "!info packagename" command only gives info on Dapper packages, so I don't know whether it exists in Hoary
[10:06] <burhan> !info phpmyadmin hoary
[10:06] <ubotu> phpmyadmin: A set of PHP-scripts to administrate MySQL over the WWW. In repository universe, is extra. Version 2:2.6.1-rc1-1 (hoary), package size 2178 kB, installed size 8900 kB
[10:06] <barongas> I'm looking to mount a .bin file that has no .cue file...
[10:06] <acojlo> I'm not a fucking developer, and none of developers does not want to fuck with my acpi
[10:06] <Warbo> Ok then, I stand corrected :)
[10:06] <harisund> !language
[10:06] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:06] <burhan> Warbo: :)
[10:06] <barongas> I know I've done it before but I can't remember
[10:06] <Copter> Warbo, so what does this mean? LOL
[10:06] <geekdom> vicscandl:  I used to work in "the big house".  You do not know exactly what strange is :)
[10:06] <Warbo> Copter: It means that it is in Hoary's Universe
[10:06] <burhan> barongas: use bchunk
[10:07] <mwe> acojlo: I suppose you have checked the log files?
[10:07] <recon0> Oni-Dracula: try cvs: export CVS_RSH="ssh"
[10:07] <recon0> cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sv.gnu.org:/sources/gnash co gnash
[10:07] <acojlo> there is not family without f****** -it's sleng call for 'making love'
[10:07] <Copter> Warbo, so why isn't it working for me after adding the universe again?
[10:07] <geekdom> vicscandl:  have you ever been all alone guarding a canable ?
[10:07] <barongas> burhan,  doesn't bchunk require a .cue?
[10:07] <Oni-Dracula> recon0, don't have cvs installed
[10:07] <acojlo> mwe, my logs are empty on that topic - nothing for resume, nothing for suspend in dmesg, boot, messages, syslog
[10:07] <burhan> barongas: I think it works with or without one, not sure. Worth a try though :)
[10:07] <Stormx2> Guys, how can I what apps are connected to the internet and on what ports, etc?
[10:07] <harisund> Stormx2 netstat
[10:07] <burhan> Stormx2: netstat -l
[10:07] <Warbo> Copter: Dunno, you tried using Synaptic or something? (is aptitude in Hoary?)
[10:07] <Copter> Warbo, okay -- onto my next question because this one if more important.
[10:07] <acojlo> mwe, i should put something like acpi_debug at boot time to kernel?
[10:07] <recon0> Oni-Dracula: Came preinstalled on my system. Anywho, I think installing CVS is worth the prize.
[10:07] <phargle> netstat -tvaulpe
[10:07] <node_runner> or lsof -i
[10:08] <burhan> Stormx2: or, install firestarter :)
[10:08] <vicscandl> geekdom: as in human eater?
[10:08] <harisund> Stormx2 try netstat -plant . Gives a relatively neat output
[10:08] <Warbo> !info aptitude hoary
[10:08] <ubotu> aptitude: terminal-based apt frontend. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.2.15.8-1ubuntu12 (hoary), package size 843 kB, installed size 4804 kB
[10:08] <phargle> i might have missed a few parms
[10:08] <barongas> burhan, just gives me the --help
[10:08] <harisund> phargle just gave another bunch of options for netstat.It;s pretty awesome actually
[10:08] <Warbo> Copter: I would try aptitude then
[10:08] <hyphen> guys
[10:08] <hyphen> "error loading operating system". how do i fix that
[10:08] <mwe> acojlo: I'm not into the details for how to get debug outpu
[10:09] <burhan> hyphen: you get that when loading windows, or ubuntu?
[10:09] <barongas> I've heard about this magical program called bin2iso but can't find it in synaptic and googling only gives me german and spanish pages :/
[10:09] <Copter> Warbo:  I have some network equipment that has the option of adding a syslog server IP to send syslogs to -- how would I set up syslogd to do accept this?  I have been trying hardcore to get it working, but I cant seem to do it.  Also -- I have downloaded syslog-ng and the installation had no success for the past four hours or so, so this seems out of the question to use syslog-ng.  Can you please help me with this?
[10:09] <Warbo> barongas: Google can translate :)
[10:09] <geekdom> vicscandl: pretty much self service
[10:09] <mwe> acojlo: but increasing the debug level sounds like a good idea however it's done for acpid
[10:09] <Warbo> Copter: Woah! That is way beyond me, sorry
[10:10] <recon0> crap. I need libpango1.0-dev, which needs libpango1.0-0 v. ubuntu3. Forcing the version will uninstall a lot of stuff I use every day. What should I do?
[10:10] <Copter> Warbo, could anyone here help me?
[10:10] <barongas> Warbo, true, I'm just certain there is a better way :/
[10:10] <Warbo> Copter: Try asking the channel (many people don't read messages addressed to specific people)
[10:10] <Stormx2> New question... anyone have any experience with IRCd?
[10:10] <Shinzetsu> how come that when I copy files onto my FAT usb stick they wont show up on a windows pc?
[10:11] <acojlo> mwe, it's acpi_debug_level=
[10:11] <Copter> I have some network equipment that has the option of adding a syslog server IP to send syslogs to -- how would I set up syslogd to do accept this?  I have been trying hardcore to get it working, but I cant seem to do it.  Also -- I have downloaded syslog-ng and the installation had no success for the past four hours or so, so this seems out of the question to use syslog-ng.  Can anyone please help me with this?
[10:11] <mwe> Shinzetsu: they show up in linux at next boot?
[10:11] <Warbo> Shinzetsu: Did you unmount the drive properly?
[10:11] <mwe> Shinzetsu: did you sync or unmount properly?
[10:11] <Shinzetsu> Warbo: I just copy and unplug it
[10:11] <mwe> Shinzetsu: don't do that
[10:11] <slaxy> hi guys
[10:11] <Shinzetsu> Okay, so I rightclick > unmount?
[10:11] <acojlo> mwe, but I do not have /proc/acpi/debug where I could write parameter=level
[10:11] <mwe> Shinzetsu: it will only be written in the memory cache
[10:12] <Shinzetsu> aha
[10:12] <slaxy> how can i change wallpapers on my 4 workspaces ?
[10:12] <Warbo> Shinzetsu: You need to unmount, or some filesystem changes won't get written (writing EVERYTHING to disk will reduce the lifetime of a flash drive)
[10:12] <mwe> Shinzetsu: it's the same in windows.
[10:12] <Shinzetsu> jeez now I get it
[10:12] <Shinzetsu> I had to upload and download all my files =p
[10:12] <burhan> Copter: I'll take a stab at it, what have you tried so far?
[10:12] <harisund> How on earth do you system administrators here learn Unix commands? Just going through the forums today I found tons of new ones .. tr, cut, nl ... and sed with regexps does just wonders... :(
[10:12] <mwe> Shinzetsu: in windows it's called safely remove or something like that
[10:12] <Warbo> !man
[10:12] <ubotu> The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[10:12] <Shinzetsu> aha
[10:12] <Copter> burhan, Just entering my IP and nothing happend. :x
[10:12] <geekdom> vicscandl:  I am blocked from private messages
[10:12] <recon0> Does anyone know how to install libpango1.0-dev? It won't install.
[10:12] <burhan> harisund: http://www.tldp.org
[10:12] <vicscandl> harisund: you learn to remember strange things using unix
[10:13] <slaxy> how can i change wallpapers on my 4 workspaces ?
[10:13] <mwe> acojlo: I don't have /proc/acpi/debug either
[10:13] <Oni-Dracula> recon0, maybe you can make me a .deb file whenever you get it installed.... I hate compiling.
[10:13] <aujordanh> gedit will not open with sudo but will open without, any suggestions?
[10:13] <Warbo> slaxy: As in, make them all different?
[10:13] <geekdom> vicscandl:  lets just say that one guy was doing the wild mombo with the gang leaders girl.
[10:13] <Shinzetsu> slaxy: rightclick on desktop > properties
[10:13] <burhan> Copter: okay, first you need to install and enable syslog-ng, and that means you need to disable the current syslog daemon. Do you know how to do that?
[10:13] <harisund> vicscandl I agree :)
[10:13] <slaxy> warbo: yea all different
[10:13] <burhan> slaxy: that's not possible currently
[10:13] <Dodzey> aujordanh, tryed it with gksudo?
[10:13] <recon0> Oni-Dracula: dependency problems. might not be for a while.
[10:13] <acojlo> mwe, I don't know is ubunut kernel compiled with acpi debug ON, will try ...
[10:13] <geekdom> vicscandl:  When they were done, he would never be able to do that again.
[10:13] <vicscandl> geekdom: you work(ed) in a corrections facility i take it.
[10:13] <harisund> auhordnah what error are you getting? Did you use gksudo?
[10:13] <geekdom> vicscandl: yes
[10:13] <Oni-Dracula> recon0, fun
[10:14] <Warbo> slaxy: Well the easiest way would be to stop Nautilus from drawing the desktop and installing kdesktop, which can do it (then add kdesktop to your session startup)
[10:14] <Copter> burhan, no -- but i have been trying to install syslog-ng for the past four hours and have had no success :(  I can compile it, but it like doesnt move any files anywhere
[10:14] <eltopo> interest
[10:14] <aujordanh> !info gksudo
[10:14] <ubotu> Package gksudo does not exist in dapper
[10:14] <mwe> !gksudo
[10:14] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using sudo {guiapp}
[10:14] <burhan> Copter: okay. I can help you with that (maybe)
[10:14] <vicscandl> harisund: before it was easy, cause there were not all that many commands... now that linux is here, all the 2 and 3 letter command combos are taken up at some point.
[10:14] <geekdom> vicscandl: Just so you know the guy died which was a good thing at that point.
[10:15] <harisund> vicscandl seriously. Who would expect tr,nl,as to be commands?
[10:15] <Copter> burhan, ok, lets do it :)
[10:15] <slaxy> burhan: if i use kdesktop then i will lose gnome ?
[10:15] <burhan> Copter: first, syslog-ng is availabe in repos.
[10:15] <vicscandl> geekdom: i'll keep my day job.
[10:15] <geekdom> vicscandl: not a problem.
[10:15] <burhan> slaxy: not in a sense 'lose', you'll still have it -- you can always chose it from gdm/kdm
[10:15] <Copter> burhan, okay, apt-get ...?
[10:15] <afief> slaxy: no you won't
[10:15] <Warbo> slaxy: You can run kdesktop from within GNOME (it's not ideal, but it works)
[10:15] <vicscandl> harisund: true, but been using unix since like 88'... you get used to it.
[10:15] <geekdom> vicscandl: gack !!!
[10:15] <burhan> Copter: yeah but just wait a sec first, I don't want to break your system -- so I'll break mine ;)
[10:16] <harisund> hehe..yeah  you are right
[10:16] <Copter> haha ok
[10:16] <xBaDx> hola
[10:16] <xBaDx> hi
[10:16] <geekdom> vicscandl:  gangs are rough.
[10:16] <recon0> Whenever I try to install libpango1.0-dev, I get the message I posted in flood.
[10:16] <shite-o> barongas: http://mange.dynalias.org/linux/bin2iso/
[10:16] <aujordanh> Dodzey, (gedit:14124): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[10:16] <aujordanh> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[10:16] <vicscandl> geekdom: i'm sure... i like gangs of irc-bots tho... ;)
[10:16] <Frostyx> Victoire
[10:17] <thejusticecow> how do i add a mirror to synaptic package manager?
[10:17] <vicscandl> geekdom: they don't hurt as much. ;)
[10:17] <aujordanh> Dodzey, and I had to force quit (all with gksudo)
[10:17] <Copter> burhan: I have to go do something for about 30 minutes, will you be on?
[10:17] <xBaDx> i m looking for plugins to compiz
[10:17] <slaxy> Warbo, burhan: any known issues ???
[10:17] <Warbo> thejusticecow: System>Admin>Software Properties
[10:17] <Copter> burhan, or can you please PM me instructions?
[10:17] <vicscandl> btw, if there are any ubuntu devs here... THANK YOU! i converted!
[10:17] <burhan> Copter: hrmm, something is not right here. If you try to install syslog-ng, it will remove ubuntu-minimal -- which, erm ... doesn't make any sense.
[10:17] <thejusticecow> Warbo, ok
[10:18] <owen_> where is the grub conf file again/
[10:18] <owen_> ?*
[10:18] <mwe> vicscandl: another one walked into the trap 
[10:18] <ubuntulover> anybody know a good patch management tool?
[10:18] <xBaDx> alguien habla espaol?
[10:18] <Warbo> slaxy: I used to use kdesktop inside Enlightenment, which I ran inside GNOME. That was fine (if a little complex) for ages (now I use ChBg, and adesklets for icons)
[10:18] <burhan> Copter: I won't be here in 30 minutes, as I am about to go to bed (11:17 PM here)
[10:18] <mwe> !es
[10:18] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:18] <xBaDx> okz
[10:18] <Copter> burhan, can you PM me qucikly instructions or something :x
[10:18] <Pulshion> hi, is there a program for linux that is similar to no-ip for windows?
[10:18] <Dodzey> aujordanh, odd, im not sure, sorry, someonee else might know
[10:18] <burhan> Copter: let me research this a bit more, seems a bit strange.
[10:18] <Copter> burhan, like how to disable the syslogd and enable syslog-ng?
[10:18] <Copter> okay
[10:18] <Copter> burhan, please PM me
[10:18] <Copter> burhan, BRB
[10:18] <xBaDx> i leave, bye
[10:19] <mastermoll88> can someone help me with the "quota" system !?!?!??
[10:19] <Dodzey> aujordanh, you could try checking permissions on gedit, make sure something funky hasn't changed them
[10:19] <mwe> Copter: out of curiousity why are you switching?
[10:19] <melia> no-ip it work for linux
[10:20] <cafg10> i bought i tvturner the SBT-TVFM (chipset saa7134) does anyone know which kernel version i need to run it fine? the info on wiki is from january!
[10:20] <TLE> Greetings, how do I get the sourcecode for older versions of a particular package ?
[10:20] <mwe> TLE: homepage. why would you want that though?
[10:20] <mastermoll88> linux is limiting my user to only 1,7 Gb even if i have 10 Gb free , it`s this damn "quota system"....how do i fix it ?????
[10:20] <ubuntulover> anybody know a good patch management tool?
[10:20] <recon0> Can anybody help me with http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/19955
[10:21] <owen_> how do you search for files on your system?
[10:21] <mwe> ubuntulover: patch management tool?
[10:21] <dcwChris> goodbye everyone have a great life, UBUNTU is great! Storming here. Thank you all.
[10:21] <mwe> ubuntulover: the 'patch' program is what you use
[10:22] <renzo> Hi, i have a problem reconfiguring xserver, the resolution of the monitor isn't full, what can i do?
[10:22] <TLE> I have a patch for an older version of metacity, and I want to figure out what it does so I can make a similar patch for the current version. It is a modification of the window placement algorithm -  Twinview problem
[10:22] <der> hi,my grub is messed up , what is the line i need for dual boot to xp, i can boot to ubuntu.... but xp is missing
[10:22] <renzo> i did a rpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but anything changed..
[10:23] <qwerty2k> der: you need to edit your grub menu
[10:23] <renzo> the resolution is always 1024x768 but bad frequency only 60 and not 75
[10:23] <renzo> how can i change it?
[10:23] <qwerty2k> der: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:23] <der> yep, i know how to do that, but whats the line?
[10:23] <qwerty2k> renzo, you using nvidia?
[10:23] <mwe> !fixres > renzo
[10:23] <recon0> Can anybody help me with http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/19955 ? Is anybody experiencing the same problem?
[10:23] <renzo> it's an embedded video card
[10:23] <qwerty2k> der: look at the example in the file, its more than likely the exact one you need
[10:24] <adrian_> What is adress of mirror repo?
[10:24] <TLE> mwe: Sorry forgot to adress it: I have a patch for an older version of metacity, and I want to figure out what it does so I can make a similar patch for the current version. It is a modification of the window placement algorithm -  Twinview problem
[10:24] <ironclad-r> I am installing ubuntu on an old world mac, I am using xboot, and i am in the final stages of the install.  I am at the point where it says it can not install a boot loader
[10:24] <der> tried that too:(
[10:24] <der> title		Windows 95/98/NT/2000
[10:24] <der> root		(hd0,0)
[10:24] <der> makeactive
[10:24] <der> chainloader
[10:24] <ironclad-r> can someone help me figure out how to configure the booting for the xboot
[10:24] <stefg> !oldworld
[10:24] <ubotu> For installation on Old World PowerMacs see this URL https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/OldWorldMacs
[10:24] <erUSUL> der: please use pastebin
[10:24] <adrian_> What is adress of mirror repo??
[10:25] <aujordanh> Dodzey, gedit file permissons seem okay -rwxr-xr-x
[10:25] <mwe> TLE: oh good luck  go to gnome.org and get the source code for that version I guess
[10:25] <jme> so, what software is it that controls the fancy-looking splash screen on bootup?
[10:25] <jme> !repositories
[10:25] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:25] <maccam94_ubuntu> ok, is it possible to expand an ext3 partition if the setup is [free space | partition]  ? GParted doesn't seem able to do it, and it doesn't look like it can move the partition forward (so it would look like [partition | free space] ) so that it could be resized ([partition -> free space]  = [        partition       ] 
[10:25] <BHSPitMonkey> mwe, what was that?
[10:25] <adrian_> 
[10:25] <farous> der: there is an example in the file did you look at it
[10:25] <vicscandl> !coffee
[10:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about coffee - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:25] <der> yes
[10:25] <der> and made it live
[10:25] <erUSUL> adrian_: put the iso code of your country in front of the adresses
[10:25] <owen_> whats the best program to search for files on your computer?
[10:25] <mwe> !-#ubuntu-offtopic
[10:25] <ubotu> -#ubuntu-offtopic is the katakana character 'tsu' - often abused as smiley by Seveas and a truckload of other copycats 
[10:25] <adrian_> erUSUL: THX
[10:25] <erUSUL> !source-o-matic > adrian_
[10:26] <BHSPitMonkey> hehe
[10:26] <jme> so, what software is it that controls the fancy-looking splash screen on bootup?
[10:26] <omong_kosong> !yakuake
[10:26] <TLE> mwe: LOL you think it's difficult? Ah well probably is, but I'll have to try. Thanks
[10:26] <ubotu> I know nothing about yakuake - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:26] <farous> owen_: best in the eye of the beholder there are command lines like find and locate and there is things like beagle that have gui
[10:26] <harisund> Anybody familiar with regexps here? What do the \( and )\ do ?
[10:26] <mwe> harisund: escape
[10:26] <Megaqwerty> how do you set up a WPA Wireless connection in Dapper Drake? Is there a tutorial?
[10:27] <erUSUL> !wifi
[10:27] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:27] <mwe> harisund: so it will match a literal ( or )
[10:27] <erUSUL> Megaqwerty: it depends in the card/driver you are using
[10:27] <mwe> harisund: supposing it's \) and not )\
[10:27] <vicscandl> mwe: )\ or was that a typo?
[10:27] <cafg10> i bought i tvturner the SBT-TVFM (chipset saa7134) does anyone know which kernel version i need to run it fine? the info on wiki is from january!
[10:27] <Megaqwerty> I'll check what card I'm using
[10:27] <harisund> mew I always see \(...\) together?
[10:27] <mwe> vicscandl: I guess it was a typo
[10:27] <harisund> sorry it is \) and not )\
[10:28] <mwe> harisund: that makes sense
[10:28] <harisund> because?
[10:28] <vicscandl> harisund: yea the \ character means, the next character is literal, not a regex command
[10:28] <Megaqwerty> Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2915ABG
[10:28] <aujordanh> gedit won't open as sudo from terminal, it hangs up. file permissions of gedit -rwxr-xr-x
[10:28] <mwe> harisund: you would usually use both opening and closing parenthesis when using paranthesis
[10:28] <stefg> cafg10: 2.6.15 /dapper) should work, 2.6.12 (breezy) does not
[10:29] <harisund> mwe here it says something about creating a subexpression?
[10:29] <erUSUL> Megaqwerty: look for your card in the link ubotu told you
[10:29] <Megaqwerty> k, thanks
[10:29] <mwe> harisund: not if you escape it with \
[10:29] <mcphail> harisund: without the escapes...
[10:29] <Megaqwerty> I'll come back if I don't see anything
[10:29] <vicscandl> harisund: /(\d\d)\/(\d\d)\/(\d\d)/ just to confuse you.. ;)
[10:31] <mwe> harisund: the parenthesis have a special meaning is regex. thus if you need to match the parenthesis charecter you need to escape it with \
[10:31] <adrian_> erUSUL: Why repos are slow? (DDoS ?)
[10:31] <Zooliegsm> hello all....any heroes 3 user? pls i need help
[10:31] <truzak> hi, whats the difference btw evince and evince-gtk packages?
[10:31] <hussam> anybody here good with the zip command?
[10:31] <harisund> mwe right .. what was confusing me was that in the case of sed for example, anything that matches a regexp between \( and \) can later be referenced using \1 , \2 and so on ...
[10:32] <erUSUL> adrian_: i do not know... sorry. i experienced the same problem a few days ago but dunno why it happens
[10:32] <qwerty2k> one uses gtk toolkit and the other doesnt?
[10:32] <cafg10> truzak generally -gtk programs remove gnome specific stuff to run smoth on kde
[10:32] <nikin> hy again
[10:32] <truzak> which should i install on ubuntu?
[10:32] <mwe> harisund: I think not
[10:33] <burhan> any ubuntu package maintainer/dev in here?
[10:33] <mwe> harisund: if you use them without quotes you can though
[10:33] <oxez> Are there Canadians mirrors instead of archive.ubuntu.com ? That mirror is really slow at the moment.. (I thought there was a archive.ca.ubuntu.com, but I guess I was wrong :p)
[10:33] <steve_Laptop> mysqladmin -h Homefront.homefrontus.com -u root password XXXXXXXX mysqladmin: error: 'Host 'Homefront.homefrontus.com' is not allowed to connect to this MySQL server'
[10:33] <steve_Laptop> ?
[10:34] <Zooliegsm> hello all....any heroes 3 user? pls i need help
[10:34] <poje> oxez: ca.archive.ubuntu.com :)
[10:34] <oxez> poje: damn :p
[10:34] <oxez> poje: thanks
[10:34] <nikin> Zoolieg: you mean Heroes on Linux?
[10:34] <hyphen> guys. is there a way to install just GRUB from the ubuntu cd?
[10:34] <mwe> harisund: well I take that back in the case of sed. sorry
[10:35] <devhen> !grub
[10:35] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:35] <GBK> where's ubuntu's cache file stored?
[10:35] <steve_Laptop> msql problem any clues on what to check? error: 'Host 'Homefront.homefrontus.com' is not allowed to connect to this MySQL server'
[10:35] <Zooliegsm> nikin yes yes,heroes of might and magic 3......
[10:35] <hyphen> well ty
[10:35] <devhen> hyphen, the recovering ubuntu after installing windows would probably give you what you need
[10:35] <devhen> !grub > hyphen
[10:35] <mwe> harisund: sed -e 's/\(foo\)/\1bar/g' substitus "foo" for "foobar"
[10:35] <nikin> Zool: i never tryed to run it on linux... :( sorry
[10:36] <harisund> right..... yes mwe that was what I was looking far
[10:36] <burhan> steve_Laptop: #mysql :)
[10:36] <hyphen> devhen: thanks alot man. =)
[10:36] <harisund> since foo is between \( and \) the \1 substitutes for foo.......
[10:36] <steve_Laptop> :)
[10:36] <GBK> geekdom: got my usb stick going. i had to reinstall kubuntu desktop
[10:36] <mwe> harisund: yeah
[10:36] <devz0r> hey
[10:37] <devz0r> i'm trying to dual boot ubuntu and xp
[10:37] <mwe> harisund: if you don't escape the parentesis it's a subexpression I think
[10:37] <GBK> where's synaptic's cache file?
[10:37] <harisund> right .. I think I got you now ..
[10:37] <devz0r> and when i go to partition, it says that both of my harddrives are unallocated
[10:37] <devz0r> although i have an xp installation
[10:37] <devz0r> err
[10:37] <devz0r> i'm trying to INSTALL a dual boot ubuntu/XP
[10:38] <whiter> when i turn on Remote Desktop with ubuntu, what port is it on?
[10:38] <Zooliegsm> any heroes 3 user? pls i need help
[10:38] <poje> apt-get is holding back totem and dist-upgrade isn't forcing an update - what's the special incantation to make it update?
[10:38] <whiter> anyone know what port Remote Desktop listens on when i turn it on in ubuntu from the system menu?
[10:38] <Tsukino> apt-get update?
[10:39] <poje> Tsukino: yes I've updated
[10:39] <nikin> Does someone know, where i can find a compleet list of software developed for linux, or any list about what kind of software is requested by users of ubuntu?
[10:40] <BHSPitMonkey> heh, wow
[10:40] <joeljkp> is glade considered to be useful and easy-to-use for a beginner gui programmer?
[10:40] <devz0r> i'm trying to install ubuntu on a separate partition from XP so i can dual boot but when i go to make the partition for ubuntu, i notice that both of my harddrives are considered unallocated.  is this normal?
[10:40] <mcphail> joeljkp: yes
[10:40] <BHSPitMonkey> nikin, that would be as hard to compile as a Dictionary
[10:40] <devz0r> i have RAID i believe, and my 2 hard drives are considered one in XP
[10:40] <ToHellWithGA> good afternoon yall.  i had two hard drives and one just bombed.  i have a partition for "/" and a partition for swap, and then had /var and /home on the other drive.  how can i repair my system without a working CD ROM and a complete reinstall?
[10:40] <allenrmd> I am having a problem with the networl tools running just upgraded to 6.06 i tried to reinstall the tools with no luck any sugestions
[10:40] <devz0r> so i don't know if data is scattered over the second hard drive
[10:40] <BHSPitMonkey> nikin, what's your intent?
[10:40] <Jack_Sparrow> devz0r: are those sata raid?
[10:41] <Zambezi> Is there an option to MythTV? I don't want to install MySQL.
[10:41] <joeljkp> mcphail: so it's recommended?
[10:41] <devz0r> i thin
[10:41] <devz0r> think
[10:41] <avallach> software RAID?
[10:41] <TheGateKeeper> devz0r: if you are using the ubuntu livecd it uses GParted as the partitioner, you could try gnoppix livecd as it uses qtparted to shrink your ntfs partition before installing ubuntu
[10:41] <devz0r> SATA
[10:41] <mcphail> joeljkp: it is ideal if you want to program using gtk or gnome widget sets
[10:41] <alxarch> hi, I want to deploy ubuntu in my university's computer lab but can't find any good documentation on how can someone do automated installations(with preselected packages etc) , set up an installation server and finnaly how to install from pxe. can someone help me out?
[10:41] <avallach> some RAIDs dont work as RAIDs until the appropriate driver is loaded...
[10:41] <joeljkp> mcphail: yep, that's what i want to do
[10:41] <Subhuman> TheGateKeeper, qtparted has serious ntfs bugs
[10:41] <Jack_Sparrow> sata hardware raid is not supported, you WILL destroy your XP install if you proceed
[10:41] <mcphail> joeljkp: then glade will be your saviour!
[10:42] <TheGateKeeper> Subhuman: can't be used to resize?
[10:42] <devz0r> is there a safe way that i can dual boot with SATA?
[10:42] <BHSPitMonkey> alxarch, we don't condone unwanted installations on public computers... ;)
[10:42] <nikin> BHSPit: i want something to try myself out, not as a system programmer, but more as a Application developer... but i dont want to make yet an other 3D engine, or like that, i want to create usefull stuff... i am experienced with Delphi> nowdays Lazarus
[10:42] <alxarch> ?
[10:42] <Jack_Sparrow> devz0r: with sata alone. yes, with sata raid.. no
[10:42] <alxarch> why unwanted?
[10:42] <allenrmd> I am having a problem with the networl tools running just upgraded to 6.06 i tried to reinstall the tools with no luck any sugestions
[10:43] <whiter> anyone know why Remote Desktop isnt workin
[10:43] <rambo3> the land of visual basic
[10:43] <BHSPitMonkey> alxarch, is this approved by the university?
[10:43] <BHSPitMonkey> heh
[10:43] <alxarch> offcourse
[10:43] <BHSPitMonkey> :)
[10:44] <devz0r> do you think it will be supported in the future?
[10:44] <avallach> id think a true SATA hardware raid card would work (such as a 3Ware)
[10:44] <mwe> whiter: how doesn't it work?
[10:44] <alxarch> I am startin a series of seminars grom september to promote open source software in my university
[10:44] <whiter> it wont work.
[10:44] <Jack_Sparrow> devmost certainly
[10:44] <whiter> i cant connect to it
[10:44] <nikin> alxarch : thats nice :D
[10:44] <Jack_Sparrow> devz0r: You could install a small non raid drive for dual boot, but it is an uphill battle
[10:44] <whiter> ahem
[10:44] <mwe> whiter: is the target listening on the port?
[10:44] <whiter> i dont know what the listening port is first of all
[10:44] <TheGateKeeper> Subhuman: you are the first one who has said anything bad about qtparted, comments come from personal experience?
[10:45] <devz0r> would it install fine if i wanted to just have ubuntu on my hard drive?
[10:45] <whiter> it just tells me after i turned it on i can type "vncviewer kushbox:0"
[10:45] <whiter> and i do, and it doesnt work
[10:45] <devz0r> i mean, is the only problem is that it can't detect other partitions?
[10:45] <alxarch> yes but without linux on the computers there no much I can do, can anyone help me?
[10:45] <avallach> whiter: what are you trying to connect from?
[10:45] <whiter> locally
[10:45] <BHSPitMonkey> alxarch, are you aware of the Alternate Install CD image available for dapper?
[10:45] <whiter> to locally
[10:45] <nikin> alx: what is your problem?
[10:45] <Jack_Sparrow> devz0r: Not as sata raid..
[10:46] <siezer> hey how could I safely determine if a system is an ubuntu system via a local script?
[10:46] <alxarch> the alternate cd what kinds of installation modes does it have?
[10:46] <siezer> are there any files or strings in files anywhere that would be unique to ubuntu, or specifically dapper/breezy/whatever
[10:46] <devz0r> ok thank you
[10:46] <BHSPitMonkey> alxarch, when the alternate CD is booted, you're given the option of a normal desktop installer (textmode), an OEM installation, or a server installation
[10:46] <allenrmd> anyone know why i can nort get the nework tools to launch
[10:46] <BHSPitMonkey> OEM sounds like what you want
[10:46] <erUSUL> alxarch: you can investigate the oem intall. maybe it suits your needs
[10:46] <Jack_Sparrow> devz0r: I would love for someone to prove me wrong on this..  My MB supports sata raid and I run std sata config so I can dual boot
[10:46] <jrattner1> QUESTION: What kernel will Edgy use, and what is the estimated release date?
[10:46] <avallach> whiter: try doing vncviewer localhost
[10:47] <whiter> i did already
[10:47] <erUSUL> jrattner1: ask in #ubuntu+1
[10:47] <alxarch> the problem is I want to install ubuntu on 40 machines without having to go manually in each one, selecting packages, preferences etc
[10:47] <whiter> doesnt work
[10:47] <erUSUL> !caps > jrattner1
[10:47] <avallach> just worked for me
[10:47] <whiter> does anyone use ubuntu's Remote Desktop
[10:47] <whiter> ???
[10:47] <erUSUL> alxarch: with a disk image??
[10:47] <TheGateKeeper> siezer: get the return from: cat /etc/issue
[10:47] <avallach> all the time
[10:47] <justaguy> not I, sorry
[10:47] <Stormx2> how can I get the current time from command line in ubuntu??
[10:47] <uniq> siezer: you can use the console command 'lsb_release -a' to get info on the current release.
[10:47] <nikin> alxarch: with packages,, you can write a script what does apt-get with forced YES
[10:47] <jrattner1> Stormx2 date
[10:47] <erUSUL> Stormx2: date
[10:47] <alxarch> the problem with the oem install is that it asks the user for username etc. in the lab the usernames are stored in the active directory server.
[10:48] <avallach> you checked "allow other users to view your desktop?"
[10:48] <Jack_Sparrow> alxarch: To identify installed packages and create a list to reinstall Use Terminal type dpkg --get-selections > myprog.txt to reinstall type dpkg --get-selections < myprog.txt
[10:48] <siezer> perfect!
[10:48] <siezer> thanks guys
[10:48] <Stormx2> jrattner1, erUSUL, does ubuntu sync the time on on the internet or anything like that?
[10:48] <alxarch> so ican write a script or sth?
[10:48] <erUSUL> alxarch: if the systems are similar you can use a hard disk image
[10:48] <nikin> Storm: yup
[10:48] <Jack_Sparrow> alxarch: No script needed.
[10:48] <nikin> Jack: you know a better way?
[10:48] <alxarch> they are not all similar
[10:49] <nicholaspaul> Q: When I open Disks Manager, my 2nd HD won't let me change the status. How can i fix that?
[10:49] <avallach> whiter: you went into System, Preferences, Remote Desktop, and checked the top 2 checkboxes?
[10:49] <erUSUL> Stormx2: yes if configured to do so. rigyht click in the clock choose adjust time
[10:49] <alxarch> I can preload my selection during installation?
[10:49] <whiter> avallach, yes
[10:49] <allenrmd> I am having a problem with the networl tools running just upgraded to 6.06 i tried to reinstall the tools with no luck any sugestions
[10:49] <avallach> might be firewall i dunno
[10:49] <alxarch> and how can I set up an ftp installation server?
[10:49] <Jack_Sparrow> alxarch: The basic install would need to be done on each maching due to probable hardware differences, then use the master myprog file to load your prefered packages
[10:50] <owen_> does anyone know the name of a good c++ software development program/ editor?
[10:50] <mcphail> owen_: vim :)
[10:50] <nikin> Jack: ty, that is for great use for me to
[10:50] <Jack_Sparrow> nicholaspaul: what is the format on that second drive
[10:50] <farous> owen_: kdevelop
[10:50] <alxarch> ok and what about samba configurations, pam authentications, kerberos, etc?
[10:50] <erUSUL> owen_: emacs + gcc ;)?? kdevelop; anjuta; ...
[10:50] <burhan> !code
[10:50] <zoredache> alxarch: If you know all the packages you need, then you could build a package that depends on everything else, and then has a post-inst to tweak everything
[10:50] <ubotu> Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs; KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello; GNOME: gvim, gedit, eclipse, pida
[10:50] <nicholaspaul> Jack_Sparrow: according to Disks Manager, 'unknown, but its ext
[10:50] <alxarch> I think I am going to need a script there
[10:51] <ardchoille> !xconfig
[10:51] <ubotu> xconfig is To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[10:51] <Jack_Sparrow> alxarch: that dpkg command generates a list of all installed packages..  a script for reinstallation if you want to call it that
[10:52] <allenrmd> anyone know why i can nort get the nework tools working again
[10:52] <jony> hi
[10:52] <alxarch> can I somehow do a network setup from an installation server and if yes (which I think is possible with the alternative cd) how do I setup such a server?
[10:53] <erUSUL> !install
[10:53] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[10:53] <jony> i need help getting bcm43xx working
[10:53] <alxarch> because I can't have 40 machines downloading the packages from the internet at the same time
[10:53] <erUSUL> alxarch: in the first url in the advanced section you can check varius how tos
[10:53] <uniq> !bcm43xx
[10:53] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:53] <Jack_Sparrow> !broadcom > jony
[10:53] <fedt> hey, i'm installing from the live cd, when the installer gets to 27%, the whole system stops
[10:53] <allenrmd> I am having a problem with the networl tools running just upgraded to 6.06 i tried to reinstall the tools with no luck any sugestions
[10:53] <zoredache> you might want to look at apt-proxy for that alxarch...  It will cache packages, but retrieve from the official sources on request
[10:54] <Centaur5> I'm trying to setup wpa using the howto on the documentation page but it tells me to edit /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf but it doesn't exist. Why would that be?
[10:54] <nicholaspaul> Jack_Sparrow:  any ideas?
[10:54] <devz0r> jack: so in short, i would be best of using a third hard drive to dual boot?
[10:54] <Jack_Sparrow> fedt: Did you do a self test for errors on the cd
[10:54] <devz0r> off*
[10:54] <mopflite> Copter: probably a good idea to ask away
[10:55] <fedt> jack_sparrow: no, that's at the beginning of the cd boot, right?
[10:55] <Jack_Sparrow> nicholaspaul: If Ub dosent see it as ext3 how about gparted or qtparted from term
[10:55] <Tsukino> does anyone know what would make a .tar.gz have errors extracting when I'm running under root powers and extracting to a folder I have full privileges on?
[10:55] <Jack_Sparrow> fedt: yet the first menu
[10:55] <gandalfcome> anyone know a good IRC client for gnome, at the moment i'm using gaim and i don't like it that much. thanks for the help
[10:55] <erUSUL> Centaur5: just copy one from /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/examples/
[10:55] <Tsukino> and the md5sum matches
[10:55] <jony> Jack_Sparrow:  yes ive read the documentation but i cant detect any networks
[10:55] <alxarch> yes I've seen those but I can't find sth to give me info on how to install the packages afterwards from a local computer and not from an online source
[10:55] <mwe> Tsukasa: what are you typing?
[10:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Tusnal: a bad download would do that
[10:55] <erUSUL> gandalfcome: xchat
[10:56] <mwe> Jack_Sparrow: but he said the md5sum matches
[10:56] <dooglus> which package do I need to get sun-java5 applets running in firefox?
[10:56] <Centaur5> erUSUL: Okay, thanks.
[10:56] <Seveas> !java > dooglus
[10:56] <dou213> hey guys, there is a program which can show how your data is divided on the hdd grafically... know the name?
[10:56] <Tsukino> Tsukino =P, and tar -xvfz VMware-server-1.0.0-28343.tar.gz
[10:56] <ttyfscker> [ 7312.444000]  EXT3-fs: Unrecognized mount option "umask=0" or missing value
[10:56] <ttyfscker>    I get that when trying to mount an ext3 drive, so that anyone can write to it.. anybody know why its not working? btw umask=000 returns the same thing
[10:56] <nicholaspaul> Jack_Sparrow: Gparted sees it as Ext2, but it says'Unable to read the contents of this filesystem'. Remember the other day when I was installing grub? What if I had accidentaly installed grub on this second drive (its a storage drive, and shouldnt boot) ?
[10:56] <uniq> Centaur5: check if you can find it in /etc/wpa_supplicant/
[10:56] <dooglus> Seveas: I checked ubotu's java factoid - it didn't mention plugins
[10:56] <Tsukino> I've even extracted it with the GUI extractor and it gives the same errors
[10:56] <alxarch> does the dpkg --get-selections stores the path from which the packages came from?
[10:57] <Centaur5> uniq: No, only ifupdown.sh is in there
[10:57] <zoredache> try ith the other way around tar -xzvf Vmware
[10:57] <Jack_Sparrow> mwe:  sorry I came in late and trying to catch up.. If the md5 sum is correct it could be the wrong parameters..  Give us a link to the file so I can try to uncompress it here.
[10:57] <Tsukino> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19950
[10:57] <mwe> Tsukasa: what are you typing and what is the error?
[10:57] <mwe> Jack_Sparrow: yeah
[10:57] <alxarch> or if not how can I setup a custom repository on a computer of the lab's network??
[10:57] <Jack_Sparrow> mwe: If I had known it was vmware I would not have offered...
[10:57] <technel> For about 3 months, I used Rhythmbox -- I listened to all of my music with it, I rated a good chunk of songs, I created some playlists, etc. Then I bought an external hard drive and I moved all of my files there. Unfortunately, even though the directory structure, filesnames, etc. are identical, Rhyhtmbox acts as though nothing had every been in the library before. Is there any way to recover my ratings, playlists, etc. and appl
[10:57] <technel> y the new prefix to the directory paths or something? (Note: irc.gnome.org #rhythmbox is completely dead)
[10:57] <Centaur5> Why doesn't Ubuntu just make a way to have WPA one of the options in the network-manager along with WEP?
[10:57] <Tsukino> my pastebin is above
[10:58] <Jack_Sparrow> alxarch: the same way the sources can point to the install cd you can point them anywhere
[10:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !sources
[10:58] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:58] <mwe> Tsukasa: you need to paste your command. that output is useless
[10:58] <TheGateKeeper> dooglus: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_J2SE_Runtime_Environment_.28JRE.29_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[10:58] <alxarch> ?
[10:58] <dooglus> Tsukino: what errors do you see?
[10:58] <dooglus> TheGateKeeper: thanks
[10:58] <devz0r> jack: so in short, i would be best off using a third hard drive to dual boot?
[10:58] <Tsukino> tar -xvfz VMware-server-1.0.0-28343.tar.gz
[10:58] <Seveas> dooglus, sun-java5-plugin iirc
[10:59] <Jack_Sparrow> devIn my opinion.. yes
[10:59] <TheGateKeeper> dooglus: yw ;-)
[10:59] <alxarch> I didn get that sorry... can you explain it better (e.g. more words?)
[10:59] <devz0r> ok thx
[10:59] <uniq> Centaur5: it's beeing worked on, in network-manager. network-manager is not very mature yet.
[10:59] <mwe> Tsukasa: sudo tar zxvf vmware.tar.gz
[10:59] <Jack_Sparrow> HI gatekeeper
[10:59] <mwe> Tsukasa: that will work
[10:59] <TheGateKeeper> dooglus: you know how to enable universe & multiverse repos?
[10:59] <Centaur5> uniq: Okay, I was just curious.  Cause WPA seems to be getting so popular it's a small obstacle for beginners.
[10:59] <zoredache> Tsukasa: do you have rights in the folder where you are trying to extract?  You might need to add sudo to that extract
[11:00] <mwe> Tsukasa: I did it 5 days ago or so
[11:00] <nicholaspaul> Jack_Sparrow: would you like to see a screenshot of my Gparted?
[11:00] <Jack_Sparrow> alxarch: Modify your sources list ... gksudo gedit  /etc/apt/sources.list   to include your file server
[11:00] <Tsukino> I added full rights to the folder. I get more errors running as me
[11:00] <mwe> Tsukasa: sudo tar zxvf vmware.tar.gz
[11:00] <mwe> Tsukasa: that will work
[11:00] <mwe> Tsukasa: trust me
[11:00] <Tsukino> trying it now
[11:00] <mwe> Tsukasa: I did it recently
[11:00] <Jack_Sparrow> nicholaspaul: post it but I actually need to get some of my own work done.. stretched a little thin at the moment
[11:01] <dooglus> TheGateKeeper: yes, I have them enabled, and I have the sun-java5-plugin package installed too, but it's empty
[11:01] <alxarch> ain there supposed to be files with descriptions ofthe packages or some predefined directory structure ?
[11:01] <nicholaspaul> Jack_Sparrow: oh ok, sorry...
[11:01] <gandalfcome> @erusul: thanks man already apted and installed :)
[11:01] <dooglus> TheGateKeeper: I'm running edgy - I guess they didn't package the java plugin for edgy yet
[11:01] <erUSUL> gandalfcome: no problem
[11:01] <Jack_Sparrow> nicholaspaul: Put it on pastebin
[11:02] <TheGateKeeper> dooglus: I am still using dapper so you are on your own there :-)
[11:02] <Tsukino> getting the same errors =(
[11:02] <Jack_Sparrow> alxarch: Look at the livecd and the repos for that
[11:02] <nicholaspaul> Jack_Sparrow: actually i have it here: http://www.nburmandesign.com/=stuff/nicks_gparted_drives.png
[11:02] <alxarch> for rpm's for example there is a command called createrepo that does this for you is there a similar tool for deb packages?
[11:02] <nicholaspaul> Jack_Sparrow: wait.. that doesnt work..
[11:02] <Tsukino> sudo tar zxvf VMware-server-1.0.0-28343.tar.gz like you said
[11:03] <FurryNemesis> does anyone know of a GUI-enabled program that'll allow me to set passwords for specific folders?
[11:03] <dooglus> TheGateKeeper: look at this: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/web/sun-java5-plugin - the dapper package.  it's also empty.
[11:03] <Tsukino> getting errors like tar: vmware-server-distrib/vmware-vix/lib/libvmware-vix.so: Cannot create symlink to `libvmware-vix.so.0': Operation not permitted
[11:03] <TheGateKeeper> dooglus: could you use the dapper one, or would that just break things?
[11:03] <mwe> Tsukasa: weird
[11:03] <bbrazil> ailean: reprepro, mini-dinstall, apt-ftparchive, dak
[11:03] <bbrazil> alxarch: ^
[11:03] <Jack_Sparrow> nicholaspaul: that link does NOT work
[11:03] <mwe> Tsukasa: it worked for me
[11:03] <dooglus> TheGateKeeper: that's what I was looking into, but the dapper package is empty too
[11:04] <alxarch> thnks I'll look em up
[11:04] <Tsukino> same exact errors as before.. wonder why it's doing this
[11:04] <nicholaspaul> Jack_Sparrow:  yea i know, just pastbinning...
[11:04] <mwe> what does "pi laptop-detect ..." mean when I dpkg -l ?
[11:04] <nicholaspaul> Jack_Sparrow: this does: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19963
[11:04] <TheGateKeeper> dooglus: uuuh, that's what I used!
[11:04] <mwe> Tsukasa: where are you extracting it. not that it should matter with sudo
[11:04] <Jack_Sparrow> alxarch: fyi it helps to put the persons nick at the front so their irc client will highlight the line for them.. type the first few letters then hit tab
[11:05] <dooglus> TheGateKeeper: there are some plugin files in the sun-java5-bin package - maybe that's what I need
[11:05] <Tsukino> I'm extracting it to a folder on my mounted fat32 partition
[11:05] <mwe> Tsukasa: that's why
[11:05] <mwe> Tsukasa: fat doesn't understand symlinks
[11:05] <TheGateKeeper> dooglus: I would say so
[11:05] <Tsukino> oh
[11:05] <Tsukino> okay then
[11:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Tusnal:  that is your problem
[11:05] <mwe> Tsukasa: or file perms for that matter
[11:06] <slaxy> hi guys.. is VM Ware for Linux free ????
[11:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Tsukasa:  that was for you sorry
[11:06] <FantasticFoo> anybody know where a repository with an engage .deb is ?
[11:06] <alxarch> and 1 last q: I shall have to write a login script that mounts the user's home directory from the server when they login. but my scripting abilities are...hmm how to put it? existenless!!! can someone help me with that?
[11:06] <FantasticFoo> engage sounds cool
[11:06] <mwe> Jack_Sparrow: I told him 
[11:06] <Jack_Sparrow> mwe.. yea
[11:06] <Tsukino> will I be able to hold the vm files on the fat partition at least?
[11:06] <mwe> Tsukasa: yeah
[11:06] <slaxy> hi guys.. is VM Ware for Linux free ????
[11:06] <Tsukino> okay, thanks for the help
[11:06] <mwe> Tsukasa: at least i think so
[11:06] <TheGateKeeper> dooglus: probable need to use dapper repos for sun-java5-bin & plugins assuming that doesn't break anything
[11:06] <Jack_Sparrow> mwe:  sometimes they need a second confirmation...
[11:06] <dooglus> slaxy: only as in beer
[11:07] <dou213> hey guys, u know some programs to show the used hdd-space grafically?
[11:07] <mwe> Jack_Sparrow: yeah 
[11:07] <slaxy> dooglus: what do u mean ?
[11:07] <alxarch> Jack_Sparrow: thnks 4 the tip
[11:07] <mwe> Tsukino: yeah 
[11:07] <dooglus> TheGateKeeper: it seems the edgy stuff is fine, I just had to symlink the plugin file into my firefox plugins dir
[11:07] <mwe> Tsukino: nick completion ...
[11:07] <Tsukino> ah, hehe
[11:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !ext2
[11:07] <ubotu> I know nothing about ext2 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:07] <dooglus> slaxy: I mean you don't have to pay for it, but you don't get the freedom to modify, redistibute, etc. it
[11:08] <alxarch> Jack_Sparrow: I always wondered HOW fast can these people write?
[11:08] <alxarch> lol
[11:08] <TheGateKeeper> Doodluv: ok :-) sounds like you are getting there
[11:08] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[11:08] <recon0> Oni-Dracula: you there?
[11:08] <Jack_Sparrow> alxarch: plus the hightlighting helps alot
[11:08] <slaxy> dooglus: thx
[11:09] <alxarch> Jack_Sparrow: does gaim has this option?
[11:09] <TheGateKeeper> dooglus: : ok :-) sounds like you are getting there
[11:09] <Jack_Sparrow> alxarch: yes
[11:09] <Jack_Sparrow> alxarch: Most clients do
[11:09] <dooglus> TheGateKeeper: this fixed it for me: ln -s /etc/alternatives/firefox-javaplugin.so ~/programs/firefox-2.0b1/plugins/
[11:09] <dooglus> TheGateKeeper: thanks for your help
[11:09] <Jack_Sparrow> nicholaspaul: I dont know how to fix that
[11:09] <TheGateKeeper> dooglus: yw ;-)
[11:09] <alxarch> Jack_Sparrow: well I don"t see anything highlited, anyway any ideas for the script?
[11:09] <Tsukino> there it went, extracted without a problem there
[11:10] <nicholaspaul> Jack_Sparrow: ok. no prob. thanks for offering :-)
[11:10] <Tsukino> Also, would any of you know how to edit the temperatures when the fan speeds start in acpi?
[11:11] <docko> hi, can anyone help me to solve this probem? i need to run a php script from the shell, everything is ok until the script tries to connect to the mysql database. then i get an error (mysql_connect: undefined function) and it crashes...
[11:11] <alxarch> basically I want it to execute the smbmount command but the file path is sth like: SERVER/userfiles/GROUP/USERNAME how can I put those with a variable?
[11:12] <TheGateKeeper> dooglus: made a note of that just in case anyone else asks, thanx for the feedback :-)
[11:12] <dooglus> TheGateKeeper: I think I only had the problem because I installed mozilla.org's beta of firefox 2, rather than using the edgy version
[11:12] <chuck1> laptop thief http://www.boind.com/fs.php?url=http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2061842890783782238
[11:13] <gholen> Anyone who knows how to get sound in a downloaded flashfilm?
[11:13] <timothyarnold85> i have a question for anyone that's willing to help: I am trying to mount a shared (via samba) folder on an ubuntu 6.06 machine from mac os X 10.4 using the Finder's Connect to Server... command. I then connect to smb://<ipaddress>/<share folder> . It connects and finds the name of the share, but when I enter in the username/password it gives an error and won't let me connect. I have tried adding users to samba with smbpasswd -a <username>, but these 
[11:13] <timothyarnold85> connect
[11:13] <TheGateKeeper> dooglus: hmmm, is FF much different?
[11:14] <TheGateKeeper> dooglus: obviously go for bleeding edge :-)
[11:14] <blabit> AAA, can you assist me with seeing my internal hard drive.
[11:14] <blabit> ?
[11:14] <Jack_Sparrow> blabit: what format is that drive
[11:14] <IRC> what is the terminal command to execute a .bin file?
[11:14] <alxarch> how can I see the current user's groupname(s), I want to check (tomorrow that is) if winbind also creates the appropriate groups for the users that logon (appropriate=active directory's groups)
[11:15] <fedt> ./foo.bin ?
[11:15] <IRC> fedt: ok thanks
[11:15] <blabit> Jack AAA helped me with formating it with ubuntu last night, but then my internet went out.....so we did not stab it?
[11:15] <nikin> What programming languages do you prefer? its a question to everyone...
[11:15] <blabit> not sure if that is the right term
[11:15] <dooglus> TheGateKeeper: it's not very different at all, no.
[11:15] <vicscandl> nikin: ADA or LISP
[11:15] <dooglus> TheGateKeeper: each tab has its own close button - that's the biggest noticeable change :)
[11:15] <azureal> fstab it?
[11:15] <ardchoille> IRC: You might need to chmod u+x filename.bin before running it with  ./filename.bin
[11:15] <alxarch> nikin: C++
[11:15] <fedt> programming or any scripting?
[11:16] <blabit> azureal yes...how do you do that?
[11:16] <fedt> i don't program as much anymore :(
[11:16] <azureal> blabit: it refers to your /etc/fstab file
[11:16] <IRC> ardchoille: chmod? what is that? ive heard it but im not sure what it ias
[11:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Play nice. I need to get some work done
[11:16] <nikin> Fedt: what you want
[11:16] <TheGateKeeper> dooglus: I can live without that :-)
[11:16] <vicscandl> nikin: on the real, looking at Ruby lateley, but i'm a C++/perl/PHP nutcase
[11:16] <blabit> azureal.....how do I access it?
[11:16] <ardchoille> IRC: chmod u+x  makes the file executable for the user
[11:16] <azureal> blabit: you want to be able to do what with it? read-only... write...write for reg user?
[11:16] <fedt> well, i do mostly php, then C, then perl
[11:17] <azureal> blabit, sudo <text editor of choice> /etc/fstab
[11:17] <blabit> azureal, read, write all access, I am the only user
 so im going to say sudo chmod u+x and then ./file.bin
[11:17] <fedt> cmod 770 file makes it rwxrwx---
[11:17] <blabit> Azu, it a terminal
[11:17] <blabit> ?
[11:17] <dooglus> TheGateKeeper: also useful, when my PC crashes, the next time I run firefox it tells me "you session ended unexpectedly - do you want your old tabs back", and goes on to reopen all my old tabs.  that's nice.
[11:17] <azureal> blabit ?!
[11:17] <veritos> dooglus: "session saver" does the same
[11:17] <azureal> blabit what desktop
[11:17] <TheGateKeeper> dooglus: cool :-)
[11:17] <alxarch> goodnight I have to test a few of the advises you guys gave me thnks a lot!
[11:18] <gholen> Anyone who knows how to get sound in a downloaded flashfilm?
[11:18] <ardchoille> IRC: I'd be very weary about using sudo to chmod a .bin file unless I trust the source from where I obtained it
[11:18] <azureal> blabit, you can go the hard way (vi), or an easier way =P
 its google earth
[11:18] <veritos> azureal: vim == easy if you get used to it
[11:18] <technel> The Ubuntu book should have been released three days ago, right? I thought it was available for free if you wanted to read it in pdf format?
[11:18] <blabit> Azureal, I am not sure what you mean by that...I am new to linux
[11:18] <azureal> veritos: personally i love vi
[11:18] <azureal> blabit: for example, "sudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[11:18] <veritos> azureal: same here
[11:18] <veritos> azureal: ncie and clean
[11:18] <Phantom784> i want to check and see if i have direct hardware access enabled for my video card.  what command should I type?  (i used this before from advice on here, but i've had to reinstall and i forget it)
[11:18] <blabit> azu, paste that in a terminal?
[11:19] <TheGateKeeper> dooglus: I could imagine that would be quite usefull if you are running unstable software as you seem to be doing
[11:19] <IRCMonkeyX> hi, what is program files directory in ubuntu? is it in usr/lib ??
[11:19] <azureal> blabit, but you have to know where your drive is located beforehand
[11:19] <fedt> more like /usr/local
[11:19] <fedt> if there were one
[11:19] <blabit> well I know it is hdc1
[11:19] <azureal> blabit and also where you'd like to mount it to
[11:19] <erUSUL> Phantom784: glxgears -printfps  ??
[11:19] <veritos> if you're using software that isn't in the package manager, get checkinstall.  you can run "sudo checkinstall" instead of "make install" and it lets you build a package
[11:19] <dooglus> TheGateKeeper: even when I run dapper I get crashes all the time.  the CPU overheats, and also the kernel locks up if I use smbfs/cifs too much.
[11:19] <blabit> azureal, can I message you to find out how?
[11:20] <timothyarnold85> can anyone help me configure samba on ubuntu 6.06 so that i can share folders with a computer running mac os x?
[11:20] <mopflite> IRCMonkeyX: whenever you install a package, you can see exactly where the files it contains have been installed by running command dpkg -L <package>
[11:20] <dooglus> TheGateKeeper: it seems to be a longstanding bug in ubuntu (since hoary at least) that it can't slow my CPU down when it gets hot
[11:20] <yozBuntu> any ideas whether i can get more temperature information out of a toshiba satellite 2410 system
[11:20] <harisund> timothyarnold85 what are the folders you want to share?
[11:20] <yozBuntu> it only seems to have one temperature 'thermal_zone' in ACPI
[11:20] <yozBuntu> maybe that's all it can report heh (the laptop)
[11:20] <burhan> yozBuntu: your chipset might not be supported properly
[11:20] <veritos> mopflite: or use synaptic, it does the same...right click on the package, properties, and there's a tab "installed files"
[11:21] <TheGateKeeper> dooglus: need a better heat sink??
[11:21] <WhatTheDeuce> What could cause OpenGL to run amazingly slow on Ubuntu?  A simple rotating cube program only gets about 60 fps.  Anything more complex gets about 5-10 fps.  Earlier, these programs were running *much* faster.  I haven't changed the programs since I last used them, and I have tried recompiling them.
[11:21] <azureal> er, i guess... i'm not quite an expert yet, so =P...  go to pastebin.ca and paste the output of "df"
[11:21] <timothyarnold85> harisund: it's fairly arbitrary i really would just like to connect to it and backup files. I've been trying to just share /home/<user> of the Ubuntu user I am using, but the folder choice isn't important
[11:21] <burhan> yozBuntu: on my laptop, I get fan speed, hdd temp, video temp, battery temp.
[11:21] <mopflite> veritos: that's cool too (I don't personally use synaptic though)
[11:21] <yozBuntu> burhan, yea i have an IBM thinkpad T30 laptop, and i get all of them
[11:21] <dooglus> TheGateKeeper: both Windows and Mandriva Linux are able to run for days without overheating on the same machine.  I think it's a ubuntu bug.  Even debian is fine.
[11:21] <yozBuntu> but on this toshiba satellite 2410 i get exactly one temperature listing
[11:21] <harisund> timothyarnold85 iwould it be ok if I refer to you as tim? Your id is too long. Anyway, if the home directory is what you want to share, it should be easy.
[11:21] <IRCMonkeyX> mopflite: do we have a command to see for all packages where they installed
[11:22] <yozBuntu> under ACPI -> THRM
[11:22] <burhan> yozBuntu: and I bet it stays on hot :)
[11:22] <yozBuntu> i also can't seem to get the fan speed
[11:22] <timothyarnold85> harisund: yes,that's fine.
[11:22] <owen_> is eclipse a java ide?
[11:22] <harisund> I am guessing the procesdure is the same as that required to share with Windows and in that case, I can give you a walthrough
[11:22] <yozBuntu> burhan, always 50degC or higher
[11:22] <IRCMonkeyX> owen: yes
[11:22] <harisund> tim have you tried anything? Or are you starting from scratch?
[11:22] <yozBuntu> on the ibm thinkpad, it behaves much better
[11:22] <blabit> how do I find out the drive location? mount point?
[11:22] <starnix17> what file is the hostname defined in?
[11:22] <yozBuntu> however, i told the IBM BIOS to tone everything down
[11:22] <Tsukino> Hm, I don't have a /usr/src/linux/include folder
[11:22] <burhan> owen_: its actually a platform for creating ides -- but you can code java and a lot of other languages in it.
[11:22] <TheGateKeeper> dooglus: have you posted a bug on the ubuntu bugzilla?
[11:22] <yozBuntu> 'operate as if you were in battery mode, all the time'
[11:22] <Dodzey> ive got a xinerama setup with one 1280x1024 and one 1024x768, is there anyway I can make the second monitor act as if its bottom left corner touches the bottom right of the first monitor instead of what it does now which is the top left touching the top right of the first monitor
[11:22] <timothyarnold85> harisund: ok, i have gone through a walkthrough or two i found online. I have done the following
[11:22] <yozBuntu> 'ignore AC setting'
[11:22] <erUSUL> blabit: mount in terminal
[11:22] <burhan> starkruz1: /etc/hostname
[11:22] <yozBuntu> it eats a lot less power and stays cooler ;)
[11:23] <blabit> erususl How?
[11:23] <yozBuntu> i don't mind the speed hit
[11:23] <azureal> blabit: you should be able to see your drives with the command "df"  (stands for 'disk free')
[11:23] <cafg10> WhatTheDeuce which video card do you have?
[11:23] <erUSUL> Tsukino: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[11:23] <owen_> because i am installed it through the terminal, and its installing all these java packages, that i have feeling im not going to use :(
[11:23] <IRCMonkeyX> people, how can i add a program to start-up ?
[11:23] <TheGateKeeper> owen_: I think it can also be used for other languages such as c++
[11:23] <burhan> IRCMonkeyX: startup on system, or gnome, or what?
[11:23] <ian_> Question ; I believe I screwed up my repo list.  Does anyone mind pastebinning their sources list for me?  I'd prefer one with a lot of repos, but I'll take stock too.
[11:23] <harisund> IRCMonkeyX: what start-up? System astartup or every time you login to Gnome?
[11:23] <blabit> Azureal what is a df command?
[11:23] <harisund> burhan beat me to that question.
[11:23] <burhan> !easysource > ian_
[11:23] <Dodzey> blabit, type it into a terminal
[11:24] <blabit> Dodzey.....type what?
[11:24] <erUSUL> blabit: mount
[11:24] <IRCMonkeyX> harisund: every time when i login, i wanna add firesstarter to start-up
[11:24] <erUSUL> blabit: and hit enter
[11:24] <timothyarnold85> harisund: I have installed samba and created shared folders under Administration->Shared Folders. Connecting to smb://<hostname>/<shared_folder> I have arrived at a login screen, but when I enter a username and password I am denied. I tried adding users to samba via smbpasswd -a 'username' and using that username to connect, but I get the same error
[11:24] <erUSUL> !cli
[11:24] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[11:24] <yozBuntu> deuce, try asking #ubuntu-xgl
[11:24] <yozBuntu> regarding openGL running slow
[11:24] <burhan> IRCMonkeyX: it does that automatically (firestarter just manages the built-in firewall -- so its running even if you don't see the icon)
[11:25] <Dodzey> blabit: type 'df' into a terminal
[11:25] <ian_> !easysource
[11:25] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:25] <Noumaan> A local internet magazine has asked me to write an article about how and why I moved to Ubuntu Linux. I need some help, if anyone of you has previously written something for such magazine please read my article and let me know if it is any good and how i could improve it.
[11:25] <timothyarnold85> harisund: Also, I have tried using the username/password associated with the account I use on the ubuntu box to access it, but got the same error
[11:25] <harisund> timothyarnold85: have you installed the smbfs package? I am gussing you would have.
[11:25] <blabit> Dodzey, did that, now what?
[11:25] <yozBuntu> noumaan where is it at
[11:25] <IRCMonkeyX> burhan: i look for it from system monitor, but i cant see it, even by command top from terminal, is it normal ?
[11:25] <burhan> IRCMonkeyX: but if you would like to see it, then system > preferences > sessions -- then hit the startup tab, and add it there.
[11:25] <yozBuntu> your writeup
[11:25] <Dodzey> blabit: it will list your drives and where they are mounted, which is what you wanted?
[11:25] <timothyarnold85> harisund: not sure, I installed samba by apt-get install samba (i believe)
[11:25] <burhan> IRCMonkeyX: yes :)
[11:25] <harisund> timothyarnold85: tell me the output of dpkg --list | grep smbfs
[11:26] <ian_> burhan: I built my current one using easysource, but for some reason after I C&P'd it into my list, my repos don't work...
[11:26] <Noumaan> yozBuntu: I have it on my hard disk I can email it to you.
[11:26] <Dodzey> blabit: or you can type 'mount' whichever takes your fancy
[11:26] <blabit> Dodzey, yes.....but I think I need to do more to the drive, I can not access it for some reason....I am new to this and don't know how to mount it.
[11:26] <burhan> IRCMonkeyX: firestarter is just a front end (a user interface) to manage the firewall that comes with linux (this firewall starts up when the system starts up -- its part of the linux core).
[11:26] <yozBuntu> noumaan, ubuntu@yossman.net
[11:26] <timothyarnold85> harisund: nothing
[11:26] <burhan> ian_: pastebin your list
[11:26] <IRCMonkeyX> burhan: it is not in start-up items
[11:26] <Noumaan> yozBuntu:  ok
[11:26] <harisund> timothyarnold85: do one thing -> 'sudo aptitude install smbfs'
[11:26] <user_> how can i sync my pc and my notebook?
[11:26] <burhan> IRCMonkeyX: just add it there, add the command for it.
[11:27] <Dodzey> blabit: mount /dev/*drive* /media/*mountpoint*
[11:27] <harisund> timothyarnold85: once you install that, paste the contents of your /etc/samba/smb.conf in PasteBoard or something. I will have a look.
[11:27] <blabit> Dodzey, what exactly is the mountpoint?
[11:27] <Dodzey> blabit: if you want it to mount on startup you have to edit /etc/fstab
[11:27] <ian_> !pastebin
[11:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:27] <timothyarnold85> harisund: OK, it is downloading; sorry, I am not familiar with PasteBoard
[11:27] <eletido> !thinkpad
[11:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about thinkpad - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:27] <TheGateKeeper> Noumaan: if you search in comp.os.linux.advocacy you should find various reviews of ubuntu, tux magazines recently compared it against a number of other distro's if that is of any help
[11:27] <eletido> !wifi
[11:27] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:27] <Dodzey> blabit: the mount point is the directory in which the drives contents is erm...mounted to....
[11:27] <IRCMonkeyX> burhan: what should add it ? it says browse, newbie here sorry
[11:27] <ian_> !repo
[11:28] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:28] <Orbit45244> !virusscanner
[11:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about virusscanner - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:28] <Orbit45244> !scanner
[11:28] <ubotu> Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[11:28] <Orbit45244> !virus
[11:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about virus - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:28] <burhan> august issue of linux magazine as a review of ubuntu (along with a ubuntu dvd)
[11:28] <blabit> Dodzey, I think I have the mountpoint and all set, I just need to edit the fstab.......how do I do that?
[11:28] <burhan> !fishing
[11:28] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[11:28] <Ademan> in gparted when you right click on a partition and hit "set active" does that set it to the primary partition? (this is in the ubuntu install) does that mean that its what ubuntu will be installed to?
[11:28] <Orbit45244> does anyone know of a good virus scanner for ubuntu?
[11:28] <Dodzey> blabit: check private chat window, saves cluttering the channel
[11:28] <azureal> blabit, ok you've memorized where it is and where it's going to be mounted?
[11:28] <burhan> Orbit45244: clamav
[11:28] <harisund> !pasteboard > timothyarnold85
[11:28] <IRCMonkeyX> is exe=deb in ubuntu ?
[11:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about pasteboard  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:28] <Noumaan> yozBuntu: I have emailed it to you :)
[11:29] <yozBuntu> noumaan, cool ;)
[11:29] <Orbit45244> I tried Avast! and I can't get it to run
[11:29] <TheGateKeeper> Orbit45244: klamAV / ClamAV, or howto install AVG on ubuntu forums
[11:29] <Ademan> IRCMonkeyX: linux doesn't use file extensions to determine what type files are
[11:29] <burhan> IRCMonkeyX: no, deb is like the installer you download in windows.
[11:29] <timothyarnold85> !pasteboard > timothyarnold85
[11:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about pasteboard  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:29] <blabit> Dodzey, Check private chat
[11:29] <boolka> Does ubuntu have a root account?
[11:29] <burhan> !root > boolka
[11:29] <WhatTheDeuce> cafg10: I just have a integrated Intel video card.  The programs could run fine on this card before though.
[11:29] <WhatTheDeuce> yozBuntu: This isn't really related to Xgl.  Should I still ask there?
[11:29] <Copter> burhan, are you there?
[11:29] <IRCMonkeyX> burhan: what should add it ? it says browse, i mean, no exe file to choose
[11:29] <TheGateKeeper> Orbit45244: think there may also be an avast howto on the forums too not sure
[11:30] <burhan> Copter: yes, but not for long
[11:30] <ian_> burhan, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19968
[11:30] <blabit> Azureal, I am not sure of the location and such....or the mounting point......
[11:30] <Ademan> IRCMonkeyX: what are you trying to do?
[11:30] <Copter> burhan, thank you for waiting -- i just installed syslog-ng, what do you suggest now?
[11:30] <burhan> IRCMonkeyX: go to a terminal, and type which firestarter -- and paste what it gives you there
[11:30] <cafg10> WhatTheDeuce is it a i810 or something like that?
[11:30] <eletido> why is ubuntu detecting my wireless card as eth1 not wlan0?
[11:30] <burhan> Copter: some sleep for me :)
[11:30] <yozBuntu> deuce, well, doesn't hurt to ask them too ;)
[11:30] <Dodzey> blabit: you will need to resiter on freenode, i'll help on here
[11:30] <yozBuntu> deuce, at least they are working with GL a lot more there than here
[11:30] <IRCMonkeyX> Ademan: i am trying to add firestarter to start-up
[11:30] <poningru> whats an easy way to edit pdf files?
[11:30] <yozBuntu> deuce, probably anyway
[11:30] <poningru> I made it using OOo
[11:30] <Copter> burhan, :(
[11:31] <poningru> eletido: it doesnt really matter
[11:31] <Dodzey> blabit: register* you cant send private chats otherwise
[11:31] <concept10> eletido, doesnt matter, just use eth1
[11:31] <blabit> Dodzey how do i register on freenode?
[11:31] <Copter> burhan, are you leaving now? :P
[11:31] <disposable> i've created ATI drivers in .deb package from ati installer. does the "xorg-driver-fglrx_8.27.10-1_i386.deb" package provide only a module for xorg or for the kernel as well?
[11:31] <concept10> poningru, i was thinking the same
[11:31] <eletido> poningru, concept10, thanks. wasnt sure it mattered
[11:31] <azureal> blabit: that's why i tried to remind you by looking at the output of "df"
[11:31] <burhan> Copter: basic story, you have to edit the startup script for syslog-ng, to enable it to listen on its udp port -- that's it. Then point the other client to your box's ip address.
[11:31] <Dodzey> !register > blabit
[11:31] <azureal> blabit: but that's when you said you've already setup where it's mounted, etc
[11:31] <IRCMonkeyX> burhan: /usr/sbin/firestarter   i paste this
[11:31] <concept10> eletido, you must have used ndiswrapper in the past
[11:31] <harisund> timothyarnold85: Any luck?
[11:32] <eletido> concept10, nope. fresh install from yesterday
[11:32] <poningru> blabit: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[11:32] <burhan> IRCMonkeyX: yes
[11:32] <Copter> burhan, is this what you are talking about? http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/syslog-ng.htm
[11:32] <eletido> concept10, installed 5.10 and upgraded to 6.06
[11:32] <timothyarnold85> harisund: I am not sure what pasteboard is, but smbfs successfully installed
[11:32] <IRCMonkeyX> people, how can i open gconf ?
[11:32] <ian_> Question: Anyone know another (easy for a n00b) firewall besides firstarter?  And how well do you guys think Firestarter works?
[11:32] <concept10> does anyone use XGL on a regular basis?  I find myself coming back to regular gnome
[11:32] <ian_> burhan, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19968
[11:33] <burhan> IRCMonkeyX: alt+f2 gconf-editor then hit run
[11:33] <burhan> ian_: that list is fine, do a sudo apt-get update
[11:33] <owen_> does anyone know if the quake4 demo for linux on id games website works with out problems on ubuntu?
[11:33] <harisund> timothyarnold85: just a second
[11:33] <burhan> and now, I'm out :)
[11:33] <Copter> burhan, is this what you are talking about? http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/syslog-ng.htm
[11:33] <Centaur5> When I tried to test my WPA setup I got errors so I need someone that can give me an idea of what to do.
[11:33] <burhan> Copter: yes
[11:33] <TheGateKeeper> ian_: firestarter is just a GUI for iptables
[11:33] <name> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/dists/dapper/multiverse/Packages/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[11:33] <Copter> burhan, thanks, i appreciate it!
[11:33] <poningru> IRCMonkeyX: gconf-editor
[11:33] <name> what the?
[11:33] <burhan> name: repos are down.
[11:34] <blabit> Dodzey: i think i am registerd
[11:34] <name> blabit: are they
[11:34] <blabit> huh?
[11:34] <IRCMonkeyX> is gconf-editor=regedit ??
[11:34] <name> when they'll be up hain
[11:34] <harisund> timothyarnold85: head over to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:34] <name> blabit - bugihugi
[11:34] <blabit> Dodzey: I think I am registerd now?
[11:34] <Megaqwerty> I have my drivers for my wireless card...how do I install it?
[11:34] <Orbit45244> should I go with firestarter for a firewall for Ubuntu?
[11:34] <name> bugihugi - burhan
[11:35] <name> which left
[11:35] <harisund> timothyarnold85: open up your browser and enter that address. in that you can enter large amounts of text. Copy and paste the contents of your /etc/samba/smb.conf there.
[11:35] <ian_> TheGateKeeper, Is there an iptables configurer that is easy for a n00b to use?  I know little to nothing about the subject, so I'd love it if there was a relatively easy step by step configurer...
[11:35] <aujordanh> !wireless > megaquerty
[11:35] <blabit> Dodzey: you there?
[11:35] <TheGateKeeper> Orbit45244: yes, firestarter is just a GUI for iptables
[11:35] <harisund> timothyarnold85: once you paste you will be given an URL. Paste that URL here, and I will access that URL and have a look at your file. Get it?
[11:35] <aujordanh> !wireless > megaqwerty
[11:35] <IRCMonkeyX> Orbit45244>	it is small about 391 k
[11:35] <WhatTheDeuce> cafg10: I'm not exactly sure.  I bought it from dell (it was the cheapest computer available), and the website says it's a "Integrated IntelExtreme Graphics 2".  How could I figure out more information about it (I've googled it, but that wasn't much help because I don't know exactly what to look for)?
[11:35] <Dodzey> blabit: yeah, check private chat
[11:35] <TheGateKeeper> !iptables
[11:35] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[11:36] <erUSUL> ian_: i personally use firehol, shorewall is nice too. both are configured via conf files
[11:36] <timothyarnold85> harisund: yeah, sorry about that. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19969
[11:36] <name> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/dists/dapper/multiverse/Packages/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[11:36] <name> hm, why?
[11:36] <name> is it me
[11:36] <ian_> burhan, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19970
[11:36] <name> or their servers?
[11:36] <erUSUL> name: server side error
[11:36] <name> ahhh
[11:36] <name> dammit
[11:36] <IRCMonkeyX> people do u use anti-virus for ubuntu ?
[11:37] <cafg10> WhatTheDeuce it is a i945G/GL is a bit of a problem, usually they are supossed to behave fine
[11:37] <poningru> IRCMonkeyX: no need
[11:37] <ian_> ertUSUL, Do you think that the .conf files are easy enough for a n00b to edit and customize?
[11:37] <name> i'm not using ubuntu at all, but setting it up for a mate
[11:37] <name> :)
[11:37] <IRCMonkeyX> poningru: for spy too ?
[11:37] <Centaur5> Here are my results of wpa_supplicant -ieth1 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dipw -w -dd if somebody would mind taking a look.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19971
[11:37] <poningru> name: us.archive.com seems to be working
[11:37] <erUSUL> IRCMonkeyX: there is no reason except you are scanning mails menat to win machines
[11:37] <poningru> IRCMonkeyX: spy??
[11:37] <name> poningru: thanks
[11:37] <poningru> IRCMonkeyX: spyware??
[11:37] <IRCMonkeyX> yes
[11:37] <poningru> nothing of the sort exists for linux
[11:38] <herbal> im running dapper and am in 1440x900 but the gnome panels are stretched past the screen and messed up anyone know how i can fix this?
[11:38] <dooglus> TheGateKeeper: I didn't post a new bug, but I commented on the existing one.
[11:38] <name> ubuntu is like debian :S
[11:38] <name> imho
[11:38] <harisund> timothyarnold85: as root edit that file. remove the semi colons on lines 214 through 217 and 226.
[11:38] <erUSUL> ian_: i find them easy enough... why don't you use firestarter?
[11:39] <IRCMonkeyX> poningru: when i need to install, everytime must i use apt-get or dpkg ? not like windows setup.exe ??
[11:39] <skeff> hey i was wondering. I've just burned a 790MB .cue kvcd image onto a 700MB cd-r... and the movie played fine. How is this possible?
[11:39] <poningru> IRCMonkeyX: or you can go to system->administration->synaptic
[11:39] <ian_> IRCMonkeyX, Linux doesn't really get screwed with the way Wind0w$ does.  Frequently install the security patches through update manager will keep you from getting bothered.  There really isn't much in the way of viral problems for *nix.
[11:39] <poningru> for gui
[11:39] <TheGateKeeper> dooglus: oh well, at least they know about it, that the main thing :-)
[11:39] <herbal> does anyone have a suggestion for my resolution issue?
[11:39] <harisund> timothyarnold85: got what I am saying? Could you edit that?
[11:40] <poningru> herbal: thats a screen issue
[11:40] <IRCMonkeyX> poningru: what i dont understand , for every installation, will we use internet ?
[11:40] <eigenlambda> about bug 55253
[11:40] <poningru> reduce the screen into viewing area
[11:40] <name> hm something happened to their servers
[11:40] <eigenlambda> where does ubuntu set what consoles get logging messages sent to them?
[11:40] <ian_> Will somebody take a look at  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19970 and help me figure out how to fix my repos?  I built them with easysource source-o-matic.
[11:40] <poningru> IRCMonkeyX: yeah, or you can download a .deb from a friends computer
[11:40] <timothyarnold85> harisund: yes, done
[11:40] <herbal> i have manually moved around the screen but it doesent really help much
[11:40] <poningru> eigenlambda: what do you mean?
[11:40] <ian_> !buildessential
[11:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about buildessential - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:41] <herbal> im thinking is something wrong in my config or soemthing but im not sure
[11:41] <WhatTheDeuce> cafg10: What could I have done that would cause the problem?  Do you know of anything I could do to fix it?
[11:41] <harisund> timothyarnold85: Did you read the comments? You were basically making the home directories accessible. Right?
[11:41] <herbal> will someone look at my xorg and see if it looks okay?
[11:41] <ian_> Also, isn't there a package called buildessential or something...I can't remember it's name.
[11:41] <eigenlambda> well, the guy reporting 55253 says he gets syslog messages on all virtual terminals
[11:41] <azureal> !build-essential
[11:41] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:41] <jony> hi
[11:41] <eigenlambda> where do you set what virtual terminal gets syslog messages?
[11:41] <Orbit45244> how do I set things to run at boot-up
[11:41] <NemesisUK> ian_, build-essential
[11:41] <stefg> !build > ian_
[11:41] <RancidLM> is thier a way to share a divice from one ubuntu pc to another?
[11:41] <ian_> azureal, Thanks, I left out the hyphen. ;)
[11:41] <RancidLM> device
[11:42] <harisund> Orbit45244: add it in /etc/rc.local file
[11:42] <IRCMonkeyX> ubuntu has installed keylogger, but how can i see keylogger ?
[11:42] <Orbit45244> thanks
[11:42] <jony> it seems i finally got the bcm43xx driver working but now nm doesnt display the wireless options
[11:42] <stefg> RancidLM: what device?
[11:42] <jony> what can i do
[11:42] <cafg10> WhatTheDeuce i recommend you to read xorg.conf usually there is a command there to restore X it is dpkg-reconfigure something it may help after runing the command you need to restart x server
[11:42] <sehute> IRCMonkeyX: I don't know, but one guess is that a file is generated in /log or /var/log
[11:42] <slaxy> hi guys i need some help with VM ware... i just installed VMware-player.... someone mentioned to me about running guest OS ... for running existing windows Installations... please help
[11:43] <sehute> slaxy: have you searched the web for that?
[11:43] <ian_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19970 Need to figure out how to fix my repos.  I built them with easysource source-o-matic, but get this error when sudo apt-get update...
[11:43] <harisund> timothyarnold85: ok now restart samba with 'sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart' Done?
[11:44] <slaxy> not yet... well i found very good answers here.. so im trying here
[11:44] <herbal> will someone come to pastebin and check my xorg...
[11:44] <IRCMonkeyX> sehute: thanx it is there
[11:44] <jony> can anyone help me to  connect with my wireless card?
[11:44] <sehute> IRCMonkeyX: great :)
[11:44] <IRCMonkeyX> :)
[11:44] <J2D2> You know like if you minimize like gaim and it goes to the task bar, how do i add that, i moved around my menu thingys and its not there
[11:44] <poningru> slaxy: whatsup?
[11:44] <WhatTheDeuce> cafg10: Is sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[11:44] <poningru> slaxy: inorder to run windows you need a windows installation cd
[11:44] <WhatTheDeuce> cafg10: the command (sorry for my hyperactive enter key)?
[11:45] <p01n7> J2D2, system tray is what your looking for
[11:45] <cafg10> WhatTheDeuce yes it is it
[11:45] <slaxy> poningru: i need some help with VM ware... i just installed VMware-player.... someone mentioned to me about running guest OS ... for running existing windows Installations... please help
[11:45] <J2D2> thankyou p01n7
[11:45] <NemesisUK> ian_, looks like the plf repos your using are down
[11:45] <singamayya> yes!!! success! after 4 years of linux i have forgotten what "task bar" is :-D
[11:45] <IRCMonkeyX> in aMSN how can we open multi-account ?
[11:45] <name> flipping out, where to get liblame
[11:45] <slaxy> poningru: i already have the ISO image of windows
[11:45] <wweasel> what is the chmod command to make a script executable?
[11:45] <stefg> slaxy: no existing windows will run in vmware
[11:45] <singamayya> what the hell is task bar?
[11:45] <ian_> NemesisUK, Could you n00bify that for me?  Went over my head. ;)
[11:45] <sehute> singamayya: who knows? ;)
[11:46] <poningru> slaxy: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/05/16/1940214
[11:46] <jony> help please !! how can i connect with my wireless card_
[11:46] <p01n7> wweasel, for all? or just you?
[11:46] <slaxy> stefg: using samba ... guest OS ... we can ...thats what i read
[11:46] <J2D2> p01n7, i deleated my system tray by accident, how do i add it back
[11:46] <NemesisUK> free.fr are offline
[11:46] <Copter> Can someone tell me why I get bash: shell: command not found when I try to exec  shell> mysql -uroot -p < dbsetup.sql  ?
[11:46] <NemesisUK> or having issues
[11:46] <wweasel> p01n7: doesn't really matter to be honest :P for all I guess.
[11:46] <mwe> singamayya: the bar with the list of open programs
[11:46] <NemesisUK> use freecontrib instead
[11:46] <mwe> singamayya: I think
[11:46] <Copter> Can someone tell me why I get bash: shell: command not found when I try to exec  shell> mysql -uroot -p < dbsetup.sql  ?
[11:46] <singamayya> mwe: oh! the "window list"
[11:46] <sehute> jony: okay, there are three parts involved. Linux must discover the hardware, driver modules must be loaded, and the card must connect to the wireless network.
[11:46] <mwe> singamayya: I think so yes
[11:46] <harisund> Copter don't repeat so often. Are you including the word 'shell'
[11:47] <harisund> ??
[11:47] <p01n7> J2D2, right lcick on panel -> add to panel > select notification area
[11:47] <Copter> Harisund, yes
[11:47] <sehute> jony: if you type lspci, is your card there?
[11:47] <ian_> !plf
[11:47] <ubotu> plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf - mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc
[11:47] <stefg> slaxy: but you need a _fresh install_ inside the virtual machine. You can't run a real partition as virtual machine
[11:47] <p01n7> wweasel, chmod +x file.foo
[11:47] <harisund> Copter start typing everything from 'mysql' and avoid the shell> stuff..
[11:47] <harisund> and try it again.
[11:47] <Copter> oay
[11:47] <Copter> okaY*
[11:47] <mwe> singamayya: but as usual MS has to call it something different
[11:47] <J2D2> thankyou p01n7
[11:48] <harisund> Copter did it work
[11:48] <singamayya> mwe: embrace & exten*cough*destroy*cough*
[11:48] <mwe> singamayya: 
[11:48] <singamayya> haha which japanese character is that?
[11:49] <stefg> tsu
[11:49] <singamayya> cool
[11:49] <mwe> 
[11:49] <harisund> Why can't I even see anything on screen?
[11:49] <harisund> japanese?
[11:49] <littleolddoggy> hi
[11:49] <kedarguru> hey
[11:49] <mwe> harisund: if it's unicode enabled you should be able to see it
[11:50] <timothy> harisund: I just had some IRC errors. (sorry) I have modified the smb.conf file as you instructed me.
[11:50] <littleolddoggy> how do I run a script under sudo after the system starts up? i want to set up some things, but I need to be root to do them.
[11:50] <ian_> NemesisUK, How do I resolve that problem?  Replace the repos?
[11:50] <kedarguru> when I try to change settings on localhost:631, it doesn't accept my username and password
[11:50] <harisund> timothy: Ok . Now restart your samba by doing 'sudo invoke-rc.d samba restart'
[11:50] <WhatTheDeuce> cafg10:  That command doesn't seem to work (it brings up a window that doesn't give me anywhere to put in input, and only the cancel button works).  I'm going to try booting with a different kernel
[11:51] <vicscandl> littleolddoggy: sudo <command>
[11:51] <NemesisUK> ian_, I've PM'd you
[11:51] <name> argh that gets me into rage ^^
[11:51] <harisund> timothy: wait. before that. do 'sudo smbpasswd -a username' where username is the user for which the home directory you want to share. then do the restart command.
[11:51] <tjb891> in sound juicer its only ripping my cd at 5x when I have a 48x drive, why is it going so slowly?
[11:51] <littleolddoggy> vicscandl: I want to run it from a scripthough on every boot, automatically
[11:51] <timothy> harisund: OK
[11:51] <name> why liblame does not install
[11:51] <cafg10> WhatTheDeuce i think you need to open a terminal and type sudo <command>
[11:51] <mwe> littleolddoggy: put the command into /etc/rc.local
[11:51] <littleolddoggy> tjb891: is dma on for your drive?
[11:51] <harisund> timothy: I would suggest you give the same password as the regular user password.
[11:51] <Tsukino> <3 my luck with things
[11:51] <littleolddoggy> mwe: thanks :)
[11:51] <tjb891> whats dma?
[11:51] <mwe> littleolddoggy: it will run as root
[11:52] <littleolddoggy> mwe: thanks
[11:52] <vicscandl> littleolddoggy: boot runs at rootlevel (i beleive)
[11:52] <timothy> harisund: ok, added the user and restarted samba
[11:52] <mwe> littleolddoggy: yw 
[11:52] <harisund> ok now try accessing it from your mac miaachine?
[11:52] <Copter> How would I have something start when my server starts?  Like how would I add it through init.d?
[11:52] <fedt> ok, my system stops when it gets to 27% of the live install everytime, and the media's fine
[11:52] <jony_> hi
[11:52] <littleolddoggy> tjb891: hdparm -d 1 /dev/cdrmo_name_goes_here
[11:52] <Tsukino> =/ guess I can't put the vmware /vm folder on a fat partition, it says it's unable to change the privileges
[11:52] <tjb891> ok
[11:53] <tjb891> how do I turn DMA on
[11:53] <jony_> i need help coneccting to my wireless network
[11:53] <Copter> How would I have something start when my server starts?  Like how would I add it through init.d?
[11:53] <mwe> tjb891: hdparm
[11:53] <jony_> well actually i need help with networkmanager
[11:53] <tjb891> thx
[11:53] <kedarguru> how do you log in to localhost:631/admin?
[11:53] <kedarguru> my username and password don't work, nor do root
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[11:54] <name> wtf
[11:54] <bbrazil> !ops
[11:54] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
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[11:54] <p01n7> burn in hell spamer.
[11:54] <wweasel> errr...
[11:54] <Tsukino> welcome to Banland
[11:54] <mwe> tjb891: sudo hdparm -d /dev/whatever
[11:54] <tjb891> ok, thx
[11:54] <tjb891> is there a gui for it or no
[11:54] <nalioth> p01n7: please be civil
[11:54] <mwe> tjb891: sudo hdparm /dev/whatever to check the status
[11:54] <wweasel> nalioth: oh, please! give me a break...
[11:54] <p01n7> nalioth, i try. Sorry.
[11:54] <poningru> woah
[11:54] <jony_> can someone tell me why network manager doesent show the wireless network option anymore
[11:54] <tjb891> ok thx
[11:55] <fedt> so...has anyone had problems with the live cd stopping during install?
[11:55] <Kagar> What are some good games? I'm down with pretty much anything.
[11:55] <Kagar> I'm over at games.linux.sk
[11:55] <mwe> tjb891: there isn't but you can put arguments in /etc/hdparm to make them permanent
[11:55] <tjb891> ok thx
[11:55] <wweasel> Kagar: SuperTux? TuxRacer? Frozen-Bubble? Bzflag?
[11:55] <ColdDeath> Kagar: Frozen Bubble
[11:55] <mwe> tjb891: well hdparm.conf
[11:55] <timothy> harisund: I am not sure this is Mac OS X or Ubuntu, but I get the following (different from before) message: "The operation cannot be completed because one or more required items cannot be found. (Error code -43)."
[11:55] <purplebody> hello everyone, how do I change the $http_proxy variable?
[11:55] <ian_> NemesisUK, Did you receive my responses in that PM?
[11:55] <name> is there any WORKING repo with liblame0
[11:55] <Kagar> wweasle: meh, played those already.
[11:56] <nalioth> sehute: what was the IP you were using at the time?
[11:56] <kedarguru> anybody want to help me :-(\
[11:56] <harisund> timothy: where do you get that error message?
[11:56] <NemesisUK> no
[11:56] <harisund> timothy: on mac or on Ubuntu?
[11:56] <wweasel> Kagar: Have you explored all the games in the Add/Remove section of Ubuntu?
[11:56] <timothy> harisund: mac
[11:56] <davegoodson> Is there something wrong with the software update server? it is really slow!
[11:56] <ColdDeath> Kagar: Wolfenstien: Enmy Territory?
[11:56] <harisund> timothy: if it is on mac, I am guesing you will have to install something on mac before you can access the file.I will have to search google for that.
[11:56] <LinuxHelp> When backing up my / to a cifs share, I thought of "init 1" and then _mounting / readonly_ and then "tar -cf ...", just wandering if this is the best way to do it? (for desktop pc) Also, I'm asking how exactly to go about mounting / readonly?
[11:56] <IRCMonkeyX> people, lets say i am gonna move to another computer, which files must  i take to another computer?
[11:56] <harisund> timothy: in Windows that is what you are required to do ... so I am not pretty sure ...
[11:56] <Kagar> wweasle: no, not all.
[11:57] <mwe> LinuxHelp: you don't want /dev and /proc
[11:57] <Kagar> wweasle: but I was just looking for some high reccomended ones.
[11:57] <jony_> hi
[11:57] <p01n7> purplebody, try ~/.bash_profile
[11:57] <purplebody> sorry, I think my message got lost, how do you change the http_proxy variable?
[11:57] <davegoodson> Is there something wrong with the software update server? it is really slow!
[11:57] <sehute> nalioth: hm, not entirely sure. I can check if you wish
[11:57] <name> gello
[11:57] <name> hello
[11:57] <mwe> LinuxHelp: or /sys for that matter
[11:57] <LinuxHelp> mwe, yeah I'm leaving a few dirs out..
[11:57] <jony_> can anyone help me with NetworkManager?
[11:57] <lwizardl> hi
[11:57] <FantasticFoo> where do i put metacity themes?
[11:57] <ian_> Question: What is "E: Type 'http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/' is not known on line 30 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list"
[11:57] <mwe> LinuxHelp: what you're doing makes sense then
[11:58] <FantasticFoo> to install em
[11:58] <yozBuntu> jony_ does it happen to be a wireless card
[11:58] <cavediver> Hi
[11:58] <nalioth> sehute: join me in #ubuntu-offtopic when you get the IP please
[11:58] <sehute> IRCMonkeyX: /etc /home and /usr/local if you've done any acrobatics. Perhaps you've got some logs somewhere you wish to keep as well? And perhaps a list of all installed packages?
[11:58] <sehute> nalioth: will do
[11:58] <Orbit45244> it says I can't edit rc.local because I don't have permissions
[11:58] <Orbit45244> but I'm an admin
[11:58] <jony_> yozBuntu: yes what i want it to make nm display the wireless options
[11:58] <NemesisUK> ian_, can you paste bin the file
[11:58] <cavediver> Is there a backup-system availible that I can install o my server and manage through a web-interface ?
[11:58] <kedarguru> how do I share a printer?
[11:58] <Orbit45244> so how do I edit it
[11:58] <LinuxHelp> mwe, to re-mount readonly, do I use the "mount" command? I just need to know where to look for heko
[11:58] <ian_> NemesisUK, Which one?
[11:58] <p01n7> purplebody, http://www.cpqlinux.com/clientsettings.html
[11:59] <NemesisUK> the one you just edited
[11:59] <yozBuntu> jony_, if you right-click on the network monitor icon and do properties
[11:59] <LinuxHelp> *help
[11:59] <yozBuntu> can you use the drop-down box to see the wireless network card?
[11:59] <yozBuntu> like, eth1 or wlan0 or something
[11:59] <purplebody> thanks p01n7
[11:59] <mwe> LinuxHelp: mount -o remount, ro or ro on the kernel boot line
[11:59] <lwizardl> every few minutes i lose networking on my server box, any ideas what coul cause it
[11:59] <mwe> LinuxHelp: could you read that
[11:59] <LinuxHelp> mwe, ya
[11:59] <LinuxHelp> thx
[11:59] <IRCMonkeyX> sehute: what is difference between bin and usr/bin directory ?
[11:59] <mwe> 
[11:59] <TheGateKeeper> !pastebin > TheGateKeeper
[12:00] <kedarguru> printer.
[12:00] <yozBuntu> mwe, haha that looked awesome on my IRC client
[12:00] <LinuxHelp> 
[12:00] <kedarguru> how do i share one?
[12:00] <Orbit45244> !rc.loacal
[12:00] <ubotu> I know nothing about rc.loacal - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:00] <Orbit45244> !rc.local
[12:00] <ubotu> I know nothing about rc.local - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:00] <technel> The Ubuntu book should have been released three days ago, right? I thought it was available for free if you wanted to read it in pdf format?
[12:00] <timothy> harisund: harisund: well, if you would like to, go ahead, but i will search around some more and see if i can find someone who is more familiar with doing this on a mac. don't worry about it. thanks for your help
[12:00] <kedarguru> can someone at least acknowledge my presence
[12:00] <mwe> IRCMonkeyX: it's because /usr is sometimes on a seperate partition and thus /bin will be availble if /usr is not mounted
[12:00] <yozBuntu> kedarguru hi
[12:00] <yozBuntu> heh
[12:00] <kedarguru> thanks
[12:00] <kedarguru> haha
[12:00] <harisund> timothy: ok.. sorry ... but atlesat, it looks like you have all required packages on Ubuntu. Good luck!