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nixternal | KDE 3.5.3 going to be in Kubuntu Dapper 6.06.1? | 12:44 |
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nixternal | also, imbrandon, i am waiting patiently for "tree view" | 12:46 |
DaSkreech | nixternal: Say waht? | 12:47 |
nixternal | the .1 release coming out, is it going to contain KDE 3.5.3 instead of .2? | 12:47 |
nixternal | 3.5.2 that is | 12:47 |
nixternal | and has there been a freeze at all on getting stuff into the .1 release? | 12:48 |
DaSkreech | The what now? I've not heard of this .oh release | 12:48 |
imbrandon | no ( as far as new kde ) | 12:50 |
imbrandon | if its not in -updates its not in .1 | 12:50 |
imbrandon | nixternal: yes the time has past as we are days ( hours ? ) away | 12:51 |
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nixternal | thank you imbrandon, now get to work on "tree view" or ......... | 12:51 |
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nixternal | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperPointOneAnnouncement | 12:56 |
nixternal | should have read that first ey ;) | 12:56 |
DaSkreech | Ay! | 01:01 |
DaSkreech | I'm confuzzled about the XFS bug Didn't Booting on XFS work in Breezy? | 01:03 |
imbrandon | afaik grub dosent like xfs , so no | 01:10 |
imbrandon | might ask in -bugs or some other more specific channel | 01:10 |
imbrandon | tbh | 01:10 |
DaSkreech | Hmm what about that keyboard bug | 01:12 |
DaSkreech | that's annoying | 01:12 |
imbrandon | what keyboard bug, wth are you talking about , where are you getting this stuff ? | 01:12 |
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DaSkreech | :-) The Kubuntu Keyboard not working bug where you have to logout to get the keyboard back | 01:15 |
imbrandon | i havent seen nor heard of that , got a bug number , and again -bugs might be a better place | 01:15 |
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claydoh | can anyone help me respond to this post: | 01:51 |
claydoh | http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=7548.0 | 01:51 |
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claydoh | or point me in the right direction | 01:52 |
claydoh | summary: why there are separate repos for kde-latest amd amarok-latest | 01:52 |
crimsun | because amarok releases aren't tied to kde releases. | 01:53 |
claydoh | well the question is why they are part of Kubuntu (or look to be sponsored by Kubuntu) but are not in, say main | 01:54 |
crimsun | huh? | 01:55 |
claydoh | I don't know quite how to put the answer | 01:55 |
crimsun | amarok /is/ part of main. | 01:55 |
claydoh | not 1.4 | 01:55 |
claydoh | or kde3.504 | 01:55 |
claydoh | 3.5.4 | 01:55 |
crimsun | neither is kde 3.5.4. | 01:55 |
crimsun | neither of those are in dapper-updates because that's what the kubuntu release process is. | 01:55 |
claydoh | is it safe to say thaey are unofficial? | 01:56 |
crimsun | no | 01:56 |
crimsun | for instance, 'official' when used in the standard context means "only on archive.{canonical,ubuntu}.com" | 01:57 |
crimsun | it is more precise to say that amarok 1.4.1* and kde 3.5.4 are not part of the dapper point release (when it is released) | 01:57 |
crimsun | note that the packages are hosted on kubuntu.org, which is itself hosted on canonical hardware. | 01:58 |
claydoh | ok, so it is the official release process that keeps these from being in main, though they are still officially supported | 01:59 |
crimsun | no, they are not officially supported | 01:59 |
claydoh | I understand, I just don't think I have the words to describe this | 01:59 |
crimsun | using the term 'main' is extremely particular | 01:59 |
claydoh | yes | 02:00 |
crimsun | both kde and amarok are in the 'main' component of kubuntu | 02:00 |
crimsun | neither kde 3.5.4 nor amarok 1.4.1 are in the released kubuntu images due to upstream version freeze policy. | 02:00 |
crimsun | that last sentence is an appropriate response. | 02:01 |
claydoh | ok thanks for the help, crimsun | 02:03 |
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bddebian | Howdy | 04:18 |
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Hobbsee | hi all | 05:03 |
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Hobbsee | hey cool! | 05:42 |
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Hobbsee | wonder why there's a regions and accessibility, and a regional and language there. | 05:43 |
Hobbsee | oh. they are different. | 05:43 |
Hobbsee | Sime: nice work | 05:43 |
Hobbsee | power management section is borked - kcm_laptop.la not found | 05:44 |
crimsun | we shouldn't be shipping .las anyway; that's definitely a bug. | 05:47 |
Hobbsee | crimsun: i wonder what happened to our power stuff - that should be getting changed anyway. | 05:47 |
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Hobbsee | yay, now i have an upload to main :) | 05:50 |
ajmitch | Hobbsee: breaking things in main again? | 05:53 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch: yep | 05:54 |
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kwwii_ | wow, the sound of silence | 07:43 |
nixternal | no doubt | 07:48 |
kwwii_ | :-) | 07:48 |
kwwii_ | kinda nice for a change | 07:48 |
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Hobbsee | hi all | 09:38 |
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Riddell | Hobbsee: why no tabs in kopete? | 12:27 |
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Riddell | hmm, bonjour going to get apache licence, wish they'd done that all along, would have saved everyone some bother | 12:35 |
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Riddell | "amu@ubuntu.com has been removed from kubuntu-devel" aww | 12:39 |
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Hobbsee | Riddell: because they're just wasting screen space, when you only have one tab open | 12:54 |
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Riddell | Hobbsee: but there's still tabs when you have more than one open? | 12:54 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: yep | 12:54 |
Hobbsee | gah. | 12:54 |
Riddell | groovy | 12:54 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: i tested that before i got it uploaded :) | 12:54 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: when you have more than one open, it just adds the tab bar, like you'd expect. | 12:55 |
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Riddell | Hobbsee: a more explanatory kick notice would be polite | 12:57 |
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Hobbsee | Riddell: i /queried him. also, i used right click, as i was looking for a specific kick, which i failed on | 12:57 |
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Hobbsee | that's what i was *trying* to do in the first place. got a little lost in the menu options. | 12:58 |
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Hobbsee | i wonder if it's stopped autoconnecting now | 12:59 |
Hobbsee | seems to have | 01:20 |
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Hobbsee | Riddell: this would be a bug of yours, or it's been fixed? | 01:39 |
Hobbsee | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/55658 | 01:39 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 55658 in kdenetwork "Kopete installs xmms " [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] | 01:39 |
Riddell | Hobbsee: it's not in the edgy packages, and I'm not going to remake the dapper backports | 01:41 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: ah, so we did get backports of it, nice. | 01:41 |
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Riddell | it's in the dapper kde 3.5.4 repository | 01:43 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: right, sorry. | 01:46 |
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Riddell | they're not | 01:46 |
Hobbsee | come back brain! | 01:46 |
Hobbsee | ah | 01:46 |
Riddell | I'm talking about the kubuntu.org packages | 01:46 |
Hobbsee | right,k yep | 01:47 |
Hobbsee | -k | 01:48 |
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Hobbsee | Riddell: whee. what do you know about the powersaved/powernowd/{k,u,x}ubuntu-desktop packages? | 02:15 |
Hobbsee | jjesse: heya! | 02:17 |
jjesse | morning | 02:17 |
jjesse | hiya Hobbsee | 02:17 |
Hobbsee | holy cow this stuff looks broken. | 02:24 |
Riddell | Hobbsee: umm, what do I know in which way? | 02:25 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: powersaved removes kubuntu-desktop. powersaved seems to provide powernowd, which is a dependancy of k-d | 02:26 |
Hobbsee | powersaved is also in universe. | 02:26 |
Riddell | it also conflicts with powernowd | 02:27 |
Riddell | this has always been the case | 02:28 |
Hobbsee | hang on, so how'd we get k-d installed before? | 02:30 |
Riddell | k-d has never used kpowersave, it uses klaptopdaemon | 02:33 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: i realise that, but we had it before somehow so that you could have powersaved/kpowersave installed, and still keep k-d. i'm more now wondering why that's changed. | 02:34 |
Riddell | no, you've never been able to do that | 02:35 |
Riddell | nothing has changed | 02:35 |
Hobbsee | but...but... | 02:35 |
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Hobbsee | hmmm. | 02:35 |
insanekane | Riddell, Hobbsee: Kaffeine crashes with XMODIFIERS set (needed for SCIM usage) ... you need to use --with-xinit-workaround when configuring kaffeine to work around that problem | 02:40 |
Hobbsee | insanekane: what, at compile time? | 02:40 |
Riddell | insanekane: does it break anything if we use --with-xinit-workaround? | 02:43 |
insanekane | Riddell: so far no .. | 02:43 |
insanekane | Hobbsee: in debian/rules of course :) | 02:43 |
Hobbsee | insanekane: was more of a question of "at compile time, or at run time" | 02:44 |
insanekane | Riddell: without it, one needs to do XMODIFIERS="" kaffeine (if one uses Skim/SCIM) ... and then, you can't use scim/skim within kaffeine itself | 02:44 |
insanekane | Hobbsee: thats what i meant ... debian/rules == compile time | 02:44 |
Hobbsee | insanekane: true | 02:45 |
insanekane | Hobbsee: :) | 02:45 |
Hobbsee | :( enough stuff already has gone wrong today :( | 02:45 |
insanekane | Riddell, Hobbsee: just giving you a heads up thats all | 02:45 |
allee | Hobbsee: don't get crazy: k-d, (k)powersave can coexists in dapper ;) | 02:46 |
allee | Hobbsee: AFAIR there where some dependency tricks to achieve that. Maybe the sync now with sid removed them | 02:47 |
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Hobbsee | grr. what's i miss? | 02:50 |
Riddell | 13:45 <@Hobbsee> :( enough stuff already has gone wrong today :( | 02:52 |
Riddell | 13:45 < insanekane> Riddell, Hobbsee: just giving you a heads up thats all | 02:52 |
Riddell | 13:46 < allee> Hobbsee: don't get crazy: k-d, (k)powersave can coexists in dapper ;) | 02:52 |
Riddell | 13:47 < allee> Hobbsee: AFAIR there where some dependency tricks to achieve that. Maybe the sync now with sid removed them | 02:52 |
Riddell | 13:50 -!- Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel | 02:52 |
Hobbsee | ah right. quite likely | 02:53 |
Hobbsee | wah. my laptop says it's 61C as the cpu temp! | 02:53 |
allee | Oh, shit. I have join/leave msg suppressed here | 02:53 |
Hobbsee | and it crashed again :( | 02:53 |
Hobbsee | allee: yeah, quite possibly | 02:53 |
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allee | Hobbsee: go out of the sun with our laptop | 02:54 |
Hobbsee | allee: it's night. i think this laptop has gone to about 75C before. | 02:55 |
Hobbsee | whee. up to 69C | 02:57 |
Hobbsee | 73C | 02:57 |
Hobbsee | 75C | 02:57 |
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Hobbsee | or it could be imsensors reading wrong, of course | 02:57 |
Hobbsee | 79... | 02:58 |
Hobbsee | 87 | 03:01 |
Hobbsee | i wonder just *how* high this thing is going to get.... | 03:01 |
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bddebian | Howdy | 03:50 |
Hobbsee | hi bddebian | 03:51 |
Lure | Riddell, Hobbsee: powersave in dapper had Conflicts/Provides/Replaces on powernowd/apmd which allowed installing it with k-d and did remove powernowd | 03:53 |
Lure | probably latest sync with debian (requested by bddebian) dropped that change | 03:54 |
Lure | I can probably find some time this evening for (k)powersave | 03:56 |
Hobbsee | Lure: tried that. actually, i think i succeeded | 03:57 |
Hobbsee | oh yes, i did. it doesnt work well though - throws an error with dbus | 03:57 |
Hobbsee | then again, powersaved wont work with the earlier kpowersave, so i could probably just stick the newer version in the archives, then fix it from there. | 03:58 |
Lure | probably access problems - I think debian has something we do not want (plugdev group or similar) | 03:58 |
Hobbsee | Lure: quite likely | 03:58 |
Lure | (I cannot recall this now from head - would need to look into) | 03:58 |
Hobbsee | Lure: it's an easy merge, but it doesnt work nicely :P | 03:58 |
Lure | I think one debian patch is too much and should be dropped - the one that does the group stuff | 03:59 |
Hobbsee | hmmm okay. i'll leave it to you :P | 03:59 |
Lure | and kpowersave is probably fine if we just sync - all our patches were just backports from upstream | 03:59 |
bddebian | Hi Hobbsee | 04:06 |
seaLne | any idea on this: | 04:09 |
seaLne | checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (library qt-mt) not found. Please check your installation! | 04:09 |
seaLne | For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log. | 04:09 |
seaLne | Make sure that you have compiled Qt with thread support! | 04:10 |
seaLne | make: *** [configure-stamp] Error 1 | 04:10 |
seaLne | (from pbuilder) | 04:10 |
Hobbsee | seaLne: installed libqt3-mt? | 04:11 |
bddebian | seaLne: What's the build-dep for qt? | 04:11 |
seaLne | libqt3-compat-headers i think? | 04:12 |
Hobbsee | seaLne: libqt3-mt or libqt3-mt-dev, surely. i think it's the former. | 04:13 |
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seaLne | hmm wonder what changed between k3b 0.12.16 and 1.0pre1 | 04:14 |
seaLne | maybe its getting pulled in by one of the other build-deps | 04:14 |
Riddell | libqt3-compat-headers should pull in libqt3-mt-dev | 04:26 |
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seaLne | Replaces: libqt3-mt-dev infact | 04:30 |
seaLne | even with libqt3-mt-dev it fails | 04:31 |
Hobbsee | seaLne: what if you axe the -dev bit? | 04:32 |
seaLne | trying that just now :) | 04:32 |
seaLne | pesky students and staff keep interupting me | 04:32 |
Hobbsee | heh | 04:32 |
Riddell | try looking in config.log seeing what it's failing on | 04:34 |
Riddell | that should be a test straight from the KDE standard autoconf stuff, it shouldn't be any different from any other programme | 04:34 |
jjesse | wow its sooo slow downloading the .1 release of 6.06 :( | 04:40 |
seaLne | ah is it out? i guess i should change torrents | 04:42 |
seaLne | jjesse: where? | 04:43 |
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seaLne | Riddell: not seeing anything really in config.log | 04:51 |
seaLne | #ifdef __cplusplus | 04:51 |
seaLne | extern "C" void std::exit (int) throw (); using std::exit; | 04:51 |
seaLne | configure: exit 1 | 04:51 |
Riddell | that can't be it | 04:53 |
Riddell | there must be a qt test in there somewhere | 04:54 |
seaLne | if test "x$kde_use_qt_mt" = "xyes" | 04:54 |
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fabo | raphink: no time to confirm clucene/strigi sync ? | 04:56 |
raphink | fabo: clucene is not yet in ubuntu | 04:56 |
raphink | as in | 04:56 |
raphink | it's built but not on the repos yet | 04:56 |
fabo | ah | 04:57 |
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Riddell | strigi too | 05:00 |
Lure | somebody working on strigi? that would be cool! | 05:01 |
Riddell | fabo is packaging it in debian, it's not synced in ubuntu but binaries sitting in NEW | 05:02 |
Lure | great | 05:03 |
Riddell | guess the jono thing is public then | 05:06 |
ajmitch | looks quite public | 05:07 |
seaLne | ? | 05:07 |
jjesse | ? | 05:07 |
Riddell | jono is new new jdub | 05:08 |
jjesse | ah is there an announcment someplace? | 05:09 |
seaLne | that was what i was wondering when you said that, tho i'd not heard anything about it | 05:09 |
Riddell | http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/53 | 05:09 |
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Riddell | hi toma | 05:24 |
Riddell | toma: are you updating that wiki page with the suggestions people have posted? | 05:24 |
toma | hi Riddell | 05:24 |
toma | Riddell: yes, I will do that this evening or tomorrow | 05:25 |
toma | Riddell: any special reason, you're asking it? | 05:29 |
imbrandon | Riddell: mattrivell announced it was announced on the fridge too ;) anyhow afk | 05:29 |
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Riddell | toma: just don't want them to get lost | 05:39 |
toma | Riddell: i've a day off tomorrow, i'll catch up. | 05:41 |
nixternal | Riddell: concerning the "Easy Sharing Printer" stuff right we listed for Knot 2, it is in Dapper..at least for me it is..however, i heard that the main difference is that "it works for everyone now" | 05:49 |
nixternal | but i thought we were trying to "showcase" an "Easy" solution, like a quick/down and dirty, click this and you are sharing | 05:49 |
Riddell | nixternal: it's in dapper, dunno if it'll work or not though since it depends on changes in cups | 05:49 |
nixternal | ok, but so now it works in edgy though..ok..i am going to note that | 05:50 |
Riddell | nixternal: oh it's in dapper KDE 3.5.4 packages | 05:50 |
nixternal | because i was confused ;) | 05:50 |
nixternal | ok thats why i have it then ;) | 05:50 |
Riddell | it's not in dapper itself, except the gnome-cups-manager has half the functionality | 05:50 |
nixternal | you just answered everything...that page will be ready for kubuntu.org upload when knot2 is available..i just have some tweaking left...how are the images now? | 05:51 |
nixternal | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Knot2/Kubuntu | 05:51 |
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Riddell | what's the problem? | 08:16 |
seaLne | bug #55699 didn't help then it never actually connected | 08:16 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 55699 in kdenetwork "kopete includes irc.debian.org as a freenode server" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/55699 | 08:16 |
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seaLne | thought i'd try other clients as my colo box is down for reracking atm | 08:17 |
seaLne | konversation seems fine | 08:17 |
Riddell | they're reracking jump? | 08:18 |
seaLne | yeah new rack for tfm4 | 08:18 |
Riddell | hmm well, "my" jump box seems to still be up | 08:32 |
seaLne | is it in tfm8? | 08:33 |
Riddell | dunno, I thought it was in the same rack As yours | 08:33 |
Riddell | seaLne: going to submit a patch for beastie 55699? | 08:34 |
imbrandon | hrm Riddell i was just thinking about trying my hand at that ( creating a patch ) but i dont seer irc.debian.org in the source anywhere | 08:54 |
imbrandon | brandon@voyager:~/files/devel/kopete/kopete-3.5.4+kopete0.12.1$ ls -laR | grep -H irc.debian.org | 08:54 |
imbrandon | brandon@voyager:~/files/devel/kopete/kopete-3.5.4+kopete0.12.1$ | 08:54 |
imbrandon | s/seer/see | 08:54 |
seaLne | imbrandon just finishing building package | 08:54 |
seaLne | kopete/protocols/irc/ircnetworks.xml | 08:54 |
imbrandon | seaLne: yea i was just doing it to "learn" a bit , i figured you would get it done first | 08:55 |
imbrandon | hrm wonder why my grep dident work | 08:55 |
seaLne | i learned that diff really dosen't like a directory called /kopete-3.5.4+kopete0.12.1 | 08:56 |
imbrandon | hehe | 08:57 |
seaLne | i guess the +? but i spent ages untill i renamed the dirs | 08:57 |
imbrandon | yea most likely | 08:57 |
seaLne | Riddell: do we want a standards bump in it? | 08:57 |
Riddell | seaLne: sure | 08:59 |
Riddell | seaLne: well, strictly speaking you should examing the changes to debian-policy and make sure it's not affected by anything | 08:59 |
seaLne | what does that involve? it sounds long and boring :) | 09:00 |
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seaLne | it sounded like reading the policy manual but i was hoping there was another way :) | 09:01 |
Riddell | just the changelog | 09:02 |
Riddell | mornfall: go ahead | 09:02 |
imbrandon | heya mornfall | 09:02 |
mornfall | well, vi /usr/share/doc/debian-policy/upgrading-checklist.txt.gz if you have debian-policy installed | 09:03 |
seaLne | cool | 09:06 |
mornfall | it's not *that* bad, really.. | 09:06 |
Riddell | seaLne: the jump box has gone down, guess we are in the same rack as you | 09:06 |
seaLne | we shutdown at 7 as requested | 09:06 |
Riddell | guess we completely missed that request :) | 09:07 |
seaLne | well you got an extra hour out of uptime out of it at the risk of corrupted fs :) | 09:09 |
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Riddell | let's see how long it takes for someone to complain that their website is down | 09:14 |
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DaSkreech | Anyone know about telepathy being commited to edgy? | 09:16 |
seaLne | however i miss my email | 09:16 |
DaSkreech | is it just available or is it being used for something? | 09:18 |
Riddell | DaSkreech: we're implementing focus follows mind | 09:19 |
seaLne | cohoba libtelepathy-dev libtelepathy0 and telepathy-gabble appear to be in edgy | 09:20 |
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seaLne | apt-cache search telepathy | 09:21 |
DaSkreech | I know it's there. I wanted to know if it was being used for anything | 09:22 |
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seaLne | i take it other people have built stuff on edgy today? | 09:28 |
Riddell | not i | 09:28 |
seaLne | its a bit strange that of the 2 things k3b and kopete i can't get either to build | 09:29 |
Riddell | same problem or different? | 09:29 |
seaLne | my level of incompetance isn't usually that bad | 09:29 |
seaLne | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status | 09:29 |
Riddell | oh, evil, linker errors | 09:30 |
Riddell | anything could be wrong | 09:30 |
seaLne | http://geeksoc.org/~kd/kopete/ if you fancy a look | 09:32 |
Riddell | phone call.. that's a good half hour it took them to complain the server was down | 09:37 |
imbrandon | heh | 09:37 |
jjesse | wow, people i know would call in 5 minutes | 09:38 |
seaLne | ah but do they store their phonebook on the server :) | 09:38 |
imbrandon | hahaha seaLne that would be me | 09:38 |
imbrandon | heh | 09:38 |
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seaLne | Riddell: hows kopete going? | 09:50 |
Riddell | happily compiling away | 09:52 |
seaLne | mine went a fair bit before dieing | 09:53 |
omeow | Could someone pastebin the output of their locales command? | 09:55 |
omeow | Sorry, I meant locale | 09:55 |
crimsun | omeow: http://pastebin.ca/122583 | 09:56 |
seaLne | omeow: http://pastebin.ca/122582 | 09:56 |
imbrandon | http://pastebin.ca/122585 | 09:56 |
imbrandon | hahaha | 09:57 |
jjesse | i feel left out | 09:57 |
crimsun | pastebin totally ate the leading \`\` | 09:57 |
DaSkreech | http://pastebin.ca/122588 | 10:00 |
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Riddell | seaLne: kopete compiled fine | 10:28 |
omeow | Where these locale settings stored? | 10:46 |
Riddell | which? | 10:47 |
omeow | The output from locale | 10:47 |
omeow | I presume they are variables? | 10:48 |
Riddell | echo $LANG | 10:52 |
omeow | Yes, but how do I set these variables? | 10:53 |
omeow | I know exporting works, but not having done that now, where does it get this setting from? | 10:54 |
toma | dpgk-reconfigure locales | 10:54 |
toma | or /etc/locale.gen i believe | 10:55 |
omeow | Yes, but isn't that only for root? | 10:55 |
omeow | Or does that count for all users? | 10:55 |
toma | .bashrc ? | 10:55 |
toma | not sure ;-) | 10:56 |
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omeow | I always get these messages when I upgrade my software; | 10:56 |
omeow | qstring_to_xtp result code -2 | 10:56 |
omeow | DESTROY created new reference to dead object ' Qt::SpacerItem', <> line 12 during global destruction. | 10:56 |
omeow | Setting LC_ALL to "en_US" stops the first warning(?), but gives errors in programs such as SVN and CVS. | 10:57 |
omeow | All these errors are cryptic beyond imagination. =/ | 10:57 |
nixternal | easiest way to modify an index.desktop file for language translation? | 11:11 |
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omeow | Anyone want to volunteer helping me test some stuff in konversation? (Need to have an IRC client that is capable of sending and receiving files.) | 11:48 |
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DaSkreech | Ooh ooh not me not me :) | 11:52 |
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