=== hunger [n=tobias@p54A62D59.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lathiat [n=lathiat@ubuntu/member/pdpc.basic.lathiat] has joined #kubuntu-devel === toma [n=toma@toma.kovoks.nl] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Ooh,] === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:44] KDE 3.5.3 going to be in Kubuntu Dapper 6.06.1? === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.109.24] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] [12:46] also, imbrandon, i am waiting patiently for "tree view" [12:47] nixternal: Say waht? [12:47] the .1 release coming out, is it going to contain KDE 3.5.3 instead of .2? [12:47] 3.5.2 that is [12:48] and has there been a freeze at all on getting stuff into the .1 release? [12:48] The what now? I've not heard of this .oh release [12:50] no ( as far as new kde ) [12:50] if its not in -updates its not in .1 [12:51] nixternal: yes the time has past as we are days ( hours ? ) away === leonardovaz [n=lmvaz@201.21.251.95] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:51] thank you imbrandon, now get to work on "tree view" or ......... === nixternal points to #kubuntu-offtopic [12:56] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperPointOneAnnouncement [12:56] should have read that first ey ;) [01:01] Ay! [01:03] I'm confuzzled about the XFS bug Didn't Booting on XFS work in Breezy? [01:10] afaik grub dosent like xfs , so no [01:10] might ask in -bugs or some other more specific channel [01:10] tbh [01:12] Hmm what about that keyboard bug [01:12] that's annoying [01:12] what keyboard bug, wth are you talking about , where are you getting this stuff ? === imbrandon grumbles and go's back to work === claydoh [n=clay@66-252-37-246.da.midmaine.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:15] :-) The Kubuntu Keyboard not working bug where you have to logout to get the keyboard back [01:15] i havent seen nor heard of that , got a bug number , and again -bugs might be a better place === Lathiat [n=lathiat@ubuntu/member/pdpc.basic.lathiat] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _claydoh [n=clay@66-252-37-178.da.midmaine.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.109.24] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lathiat_ [n=lathiat@ubuntu/member/pdpc.basic.lathiat] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:51] can anyone help me respond to this post: [01:51] http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=7548.0 === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.109.24] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] [01:52] or point me in the right direction [01:52] summary: why there are separate repos for kde-latest amd amarok-latest [01:53] because amarok releases aren't tied to kde releases. [01:54] well the question is why they are part of Kubuntu (or look to be sponsored by Kubuntu) but are not in, say main [01:55] huh? [01:55] I don't know quite how to put the answer [01:55] amarok /is/ part of main. [01:55] not 1.4 [01:55] or kde3.504 [01:55] 3.5.4 [01:55] neither is kde 3.5.4. [01:55] neither of those are in dapper-updates because that's what the kubuntu release process is. [01:56] is it safe to say thaey are unofficial? [01:56] no [01:57] for instance, 'official' when used in the standard context means "only on archive.{canonical,ubuntu}.com" [01:57] it is more precise to say that amarok 1.4.1* and kde 3.5.4 are not part of the dapper point release (when it is released) [01:58] note that the packages are hosted on kubuntu.org, which is itself hosted on canonical hardware. [01:59] ok, so it is the official release process that keeps these from being in main, though they are still officially supported [01:59] no, they are not officially supported [01:59] I understand, I just don't think I have the words to describe this [01:59] using the term 'main' is extremely particular [02:00] yes [02:00] both kde and amarok are in the 'main' component of kubuntu [02:00] neither kde 3.5.4 nor amarok 1.4.1 are in the released kubuntu images due to upstream version freeze policy. [02:01] that last sentence is an appropriate response. 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[05:43] wonder why there's a regions and accessibility, and a regional and language there. [05:43] oh. they are different. [05:43] Sime: nice work [05:44] power management section is borked - kcm_laptop.la not found [05:47] we shouldn't be shipping .las anyway; that's definitely a bug. [05:47] crimsun: i wonder what happened to our power stuff - that should be getting changed anyway. === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:50] yay, now i have an upload to main :) [05:53] Hobbsee: breaking things in main again? 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Bye!) [12:54] Hobbsee: but there's still tabs when you have more than one open? [12:54] Riddell: yep [12:54] gah. [12:54] groovy [12:54] Riddell: i tested that before i got it uploaded :) [12:55] Riddell: when you have more than one open, it just adds the tab bar, like you'd expect. === mode/#kubuntu-devel [-o Hobbsee] by ChanServ [12:57] Hobbsee: a more explanatory kick notice would be polite === insanekane [n=kane@202.83.32.34] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:57] Riddell: i /queried him. also, i used right click, as i was looking for a specific kick, which i failed on === mode/#kubuntu-devel [+o Hobbsee] by ChanServ === mode/#kubuntu-devel [+b brian__!*@*] by Hobbsee === mode/#kubuntu-devel [-b *!*@c-68-50-141-126.hsd1.va.comcast.net] by Hobbsee === mode/#kubuntu-devel [-o Hobbsee] by ChanServ [12:58] that's what i was *trying* to do in the first place. got a little lost in the menu options. === mode/#kubuntu-devel [+o Hobbsee] by ChanServ === mode/#kubuntu-devel [-b brian__!*@*] by Hobbsee [12:59] i wonder if it's stopped autoconnecting now [01:20] seems to have === Hobbsee pokes her isp to put the kubuntu knot 1 iso on the unmetered site. === insanekane [n=kane@202.83.32.34] has joined #kubuntu-devel === el [n=konversa@u40-30.dsl.vianetworks.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:39] Riddell: this would be a bug of yours, or it's been fixed? [01:39] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/55658 [01:39] Malone bug 55658 in kdenetwork "Kopete installs xmms " [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] [01:41] Hobbsee: it's not in the edgy packages, and I'm not going to remake the dapper backports [01:41] Riddell: ah, so we did get backports of it, nice. === Hobbsee has a vague feeling that she's asked this before. === hungerW [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:43] it's in the dapper kde 3.5.4 repository [01:46] Riddell: right, sorry. === Hobbsee wasnt aware that the ubuntu backports were working. === Hobbsee thinks her brain is quickly dying. [01:46] they're not [01:46] come back brain! [01:46] ah [01:46] I'm talking about the kubuntu.org packages [01:47] right,k yep [01:48] -k === jjesse [n=jjesse@64.186.55.234] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:15] Riddell: whee. what do you know about the powersaved/powernowd/{k,u,x}ubuntu-desktop packages? [02:17] jjesse: heya! [02:17] morning [02:17] hiya Hobbsee [02:24] holy cow this stuff looks broken. [02:25] Hobbsee: umm, what do I know in which way? [02:26] Riddell: powersaved removes kubuntu-desktop. powersaved seems to provide powernowd, which is a dependancy of k-d [02:26] powersaved is also in universe. [02:27] it also conflicts with powernowd [02:28] this has always been the case [02:30] hang on, so how'd we get k-d installed before? [02:33] k-d has never used kpowersave, it uses klaptopdaemon [02:34] Riddell: i realise that, but we had it before somehow so that you could have powersaved/kpowersave installed, and still keep k-d. i'm more now wondering why that's changed. [02:35] no, you've never been able to do that [02:35] nothing has changed [02:35] but...but... === Hobbsee is sure sh'es done that before. [02:35] hmmm. [02:40] Riddell, Hobbsee: Kaffeine crashes with XMODIFIERS set (needed for SCIM usage) ... you need to use --with-xinit-workaround when configuring kaffeine to work around that problem [02:40] insanekane: what, at compile time? [02:43] insanekane: does it break anything if we use --with-xinit-workaround? [02:43] Riddell: so far no .. [02:43] Hobbsee: in debian/rules of course :) [02:44] insanekane: was more of a question of "at compile time, or at run time" [02:44] Riddell: without it, one needs to do XMODIFIERS="" kaffeine (if one uses Skim/SCIM) ... and then, you can't use scim/skim within kaffeine itself [02:44] Hobbsee: thats what i meant ... debian/rules == compile time [02:45] insanekane: true [02:45] Hobbsee: :) [02:45] :( enough stuff already has gone wrong today :( [02:45] Riddell, Hobbsee: just giving you a heads up thats all [02:46] Hobbsee: don't get crazy: k-d, (k)powersave can coexists in dapper ;) [02:47] Hobbsee: AFAIR there where some dependency tricks to achieve that. Maybe the sync now with sid removed them === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:50] grr. what's i miss? [02:52] 13:45 <@Hobbsee> :( enough stuff already has gone wrong today :( [02:52] 13:45 < insanekane> Riddell, Hobbsee: just giving you a heads up thats all [02:52] 13:46 < allee> Hobbsee: don't get crazy: k-d, (k)powersave can coexists in dapper ;) [02:52] 13:47 < allee> Hobbsee: AFAIR there where some dependency tricks to achieve that. Maybe the sync now with sid removed them [02:52] 13:50 -!- Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:53] ah right. quite likely [02:53] wah. my laptop says it's 61C as the cpu temp! [02:53] Oh, shit. I have join/leave msg suppressed here [02:53] and it crashed again :( [02:53] allee: yeah, quite possibly === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@pD950A5DC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:54] Hobbsee: go out of the sun with our laptop [02:55] allee: it's night. i think this laptop has gone to about 75C before. [02:57] whee. up to 69C [02:57] 73C [02:57] 75C === Hobbsee waits for it to crash again. [02:57] or it could be imsensors reading wrong, of course [02:58] 79... [03:01] 87 [03:01] i wonder just *how* high this thing is going to get.... === superstoned [n=supersto@168-234.surfsnel.dsl.internl.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.43.254] has joined #kubuntu-devel === PascalFr [n=PascalFr@pcpc.vmfacility.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hungerW [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@216.178.65.218] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:50] Howdy [03:51] hi bddebian [03:53] Riddell, Hobbsee: powersave in dapper had Conflicts/Provides/Replaces on powernowd/apmd which allowed installing it with k-d and did remove powernowd [03:54] probably latest sync with debian (requested by bddebian) dropped that change [03:56] I can probably find some time this evening for (k)powersave [03:57] Lure: tried that. actually, i think i succeeded [03:57] oh yes, i did. it doesnt work well though - throws an error with dbus [03:58] then again, powersaved wont work with the earlier kpowersave, so i could probably just stick the newer version in the archives, then fix it from there. [03:58] probably access problems - I think debian has something we do not want (plugdev group or similar) [03:58] Lure: quite likely [03:58] (I cannot recall this now from head - would need to look into) [03:58] Lure: it's an easy merge, but it doesnt work nicely :P [03:59] I think one debian patch is too much and should be dropped - the one that does the group stuff [03:59] hmmm okay. i'll leave it to you :P [03:59] and kpowersave is probably fine if we just sync - all our patches were just backports from upstream [04:06] Hi Hobbsee [04:09] any idea on this: [04:09] checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (library qt-mt) not found. Please check your installation! [04:09] For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log. [04:10] Make sure that you have compiled Qt with thread support! [04:10] make: *** [configure-stamp] Error 1 [04:10] (from pbuilder) [04:11] seaLne: installed libqt3-mt? [04:11] seaLne: What's the build-dep for qt? [04:12] libqt3-compat-headers i think? [04:13] seaLne: libqt3-mt or libqt3-mt-dev, surely. i think it's the former. === kane_ [n=kane@202.83.34.152] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:14] hmm wonder what changed between k3b 0.12.16 and 1.0pre1 [04:14] maybe its getting pulled in by one of the other build-deps [04:26] libqt3-compat-headers should pull in libqt3-mt-dev === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.43.254] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:30] Replaces: libqt3-mt-dev infact [04:31] even with libqt3-mt-dev it fails [04:32] seaLne: what if you axe the -dev bit? [04:32] trying that just now :) [04:32] pesky students and staff keep interupting me [04:32] heh [04:34] try looking in config.log seeing what it's failing on [04:34] that should be a test straight from the KDE standard autoconf stuff, it shouldn't be any different from any other programme [04:40] wow its sooo slow downloading the .1 release of 6.06 :( [04:42] ah is it out? i guess i should change torrents [04:43] jjesse: where? === claydoh [n=clay@66-252-37-12.da.midmaine.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:51] Riddell: not seeing anything really in config.log [04:51] #ifdef __cplusplus [04:51] extern "C" void std::exit (int) throw (); using std::exit; [04:51] configure: exit 1 [04:53] that can't be it [04:54] there must be a qt test in there somewhere [04:54] if test "x$kde_use_qt_mt" = "xyes" === claydoh [n=clay@66-252-37-12.da.midmaine.com] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Um,] [04:56] raphink: no time to confirm clucene/strigi sync ? [04:56] fabo: clucene is not yet in ubuntu [04:56] as in [04:56] it's built but not on the repos yet [04:57] ah === Jucato [n=jucato@58.69.27.172] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@58.69.27.172] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] [05:00] strigi too [05:01] somebody working on strigi? that would be cool! [05:02] fabo is packaging it in debian, it's not synced in ubuntu but binaries sitting in NEW [05:03] great [05:06] guess the jono thing is public then [05:07] looks quite public [05:07] ? [05:07] ? [05:08] jono is new new jdub [05:09] ah is there an announcment someplace? [05:09] that was what i was wondering when you said that, tho i'd not heard anything about it [05:09] http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/53 === |L30n1d [n=My8os@ppp137-79.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #Kubuntu-devel === toma [n=toma@toma.kovoks.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === toma waves [05:24] hi toma [05:24] toma: are you updating that wiki page with the suggestions people have posted? [05:24] hi Riddell [05:25] Riddell: yes, I will do that this evening or tomorrow [05:29] Riddell: any special reason, you're asking it? [05:29] Riddell: mattrivell announced it was announced on the fridge too ;) anyhow afk === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@71.194.189.213] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:39] toma: just don't want them to get lost [05:41] Riddell: i've a day off tomorrow, i'll catch up. [05:49] Riddell: concerning the "Easy Sharing Printer" stuff right we listed for Knot 2, it is in Dapper..at least for me it is..however, i heard that the main difference is that "it works for everyone now" [05:49] but i thought we were trying to "showcase" an "Easy" solution, like a quick/down and dirty, click this and you are sharing [05:49] nixternal: it's in dapper, dunno if it'll work or not though since it depends on changes in cups [05:50] ok, but so now it works in edgy though..ok..i am going to note that [05:50] nixternal: oh it's in dapper KDE 3.5.4 packages [05:50] because i was confused ;) [05:50] ok thats why i have it then ;) [05:50] it's not in dapper itself, except the gnome-cups-manager has half the functionality [05:51] you just answered everything...that page will be ready for kubuntu.org upload when knot2 is available..i just have some tweaking left...how are the images now? 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[08:16] bug #55699 didn't help then it never actually connected [08:16] Malone bug 55699 in kdenetwork "kopete includes irc.debian.org as a freenode server" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/55699 === DaSkreech [n=skreech@72.27.128.34] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:17] thought i'd try other clients as my colo box is down for reracking atm [08:17] konversation seems fine [08:18] they're reracking jump? [08:18] yeah new rack for tfm4 [08:32] hmm well, "my" jump box seems to still be up [08:33] is it in tfm8? [08:33] dunno, I thought it was in the same rack As yours [08:34] seaLne: going to submit a patch for beastie 55699? [08:54] hrm Riddell i was just thinking about trying my hand at that ( creating a patch ) but i dont seer irc.debian.org in the source anywhere [08:54] brandon@voyager:~/files/devel/kopete/kopete-3.5.4+kopete0.12.1$ ls -laR | grep -H irc.debian.org [08:54] brandon@voyager:~/files/devel/kopete/kopete-3.5.4+kopete0.12.1$ [08:54] s/seer/see [08:54] imbrandon just finishing building package [08:54] kopete/protocols/irc/ircnetworks.xml [08:55] seaLne: yea i was just doing it to "learn" a bit , i figured you would get it done first [08:55] hrm wonder why my grep dident work [08:56] i learned that diff really dosen't like a directory called /kopete-3.5.4+kopete0.12.1 [08:57] hehe [08:57] i guess the +? but i spent ages untill i renamed the dirs [08:57] yea most likely [08:57] Riddell: do we want a standards bump in it? [08:59] seaLne: sure [08:59] seaLne: well, strictly speaking you should examing the changes to debian-policy and make sure it's not affected by anything [09:00] what does that involve? it sounds long and boring :) === mornfall refrains from commenting [09:01] it sounded like reading the policy manual but i was hoping there was another way :) [09:02] just the changelog [09:02] mornfall: go ahead [09:02] heya mornfall [09:03] well, vi /usr/share/doc/debian-policy/upgrading-checklist.txt.gz if you have debian-policy installed [09:06] cool [09:06] it's not *that* bad, really.. [09:06] seaLne: the jump box has gone down, guess we are in the same rack as you [09:06] we shutdown at 7 as requested [09:07] guess we completely missed that request :) [09:09] well you got an extra hour out of uptime out of it at the risk of corrupted fs :) === ZuZuu [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-34-238.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:14] let's see how long it takes for someone to complain that their website is down === seaLne wonders how people with cope without behindubuntu.org for a few hours :) [09:16] Anyone know about telepathy being commited to edgy? [09:16] however i miss my email [09:18] is it just available or is it being used for something? [09:19] DaSkreech: we're implementing focus follows mind [09:20] cohoba libtelepathy-dev libtelepathy0 and telepathy-gabble appear to be in edgy === DaSkreech tries to figure out if that's another telepathic crack or if that makes sense [09:21] apt-cache search telepathy [09:22] I know it's there. I wanted to know if it was being used for anything === omeow [n=omega@co63471-a.olden1.ov.home.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === seaLne wonders how kopete won't build anymore [09:28] i take it other people have built stuff on edgy today? [09:28] not i [09:29] its a bit strange that of the 2 things k3b and kopete i can't get either to build [09:29] same problem or different? [09:29] my level of incompetance isn't usually that bad [09:29] collect2: ld returned 1 exit status [09:30] oh, evil, linker errors [09:30] anything could be wrong [09:32] http://geeksoc.org/~kd/kopete/ if you fancy a look [09:37] phone call.. that's a good half hour it took them to complain the server was down [09:37] heh [09:38] wow, people i know would call in 5 minutes [09:38] ah but do they store their phonebook on the server :) [09:38] hahaha seaLne that would be me [09:38] heh === Riddell compiles kopete [09:50] Riddell: hows kopete going? [09:52] happily compiling away [09:53] mine went a fair bit before dieing [09:55] Could someone pastebin the output of their locales command? [09:55] Sorry, I meant locale [09:56] omeow: http://pastebin.ca/122583 [09:56] omeow: http://pastebin.ca/122582 [09:56] http://pastebin.ca/122585 [09:57] hahaha [09:57] i feel left out [09:57] pastebin totally ate the leading \`\` [10:00] http://pastebin.ca/122588 === jjesse [n=jjesse@64.186.55.234] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [10:28] seaLne: kopete compiled fine [10:46] Where these locale settings stored? [10:47] which? [10:47] The output from locale [10:48] I presume they are variables? [10:52] echo $LANG [10:53] Yes, but how do I set these variables? [10:54] I know exporting works, but not having done that now, where does it get this setting from? [10:54] dpgk-reconfigure locales [10:55] or /etc/locale.gen i believe [10:55] Yes, but isn't that only for root? [10:55] Or does that count for all users? [10:55] .bashrc ? [10:56] not sure ;-) === hua [n=hua_@123.49.239.214] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:56] I always get these messages when I upgrade my software; [10:56] qstring_to_xtp result code -2 [10:56] DESTROY created new reference to dead object ' Qt::SpacerItem', <> line 12 during global destruction. [10:57] Setting LC_ALL to "en_US" stops the first warning(?), but gives errors in programs such as SVN and CVS. [10:57] All these errors are cryptic beyond imagination. =/ [11:11] easiest way to modify an index.desktop file for language translation? === claydoh [n=clay@66-252-38-223.da.midmaine.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === omeow [n=omega@co63471-a.olden1.ov.home.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === omeow [n=omega@co63471-a.olden1.ov.home.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === fdoving [n=frode@ubuntu/member/frode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:48] Anyone want to volunteer helping me test some stuff in konversation? (Need to have an IRC client that is capable of sending and receiving files.) === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:52] Ooh ooh not me not me :)