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LaserJockMadpilot: a guy named HarrySprocket is on -devel asking to be unbanned12:12
Madpilotget him to PM me12:12
LaserJockk12:12
Madpilotdid he say why he was banned in the first place, and who banned him?12:12
LaserJockno, and perhaps he doesn't even know12:12
Madpilothe should have some idea of why he earned the ban, but anyway... get him to PM me12:13
LaserJockwell, he didn't say12:13
LaserJockanyway I told him to pm you12:13
Madpilotok12:14
LaserJockis there a channel people can go to for that?12:14
Madpilotthere's #ubuntu-ops12:14
LaserJockah12:14
LaserJockI wondered12:14
LaserJockit comes up know and then12:14
Madpilotyeah - you can always send people there, too12:14
nixternalquick question...on the doc svn, the global.ent file has "Edgy" for versions right...so now if i create a docbook file, and use the global.ent, it will say "Edgy" for version and not "Dapper".12:15
nixternalnow12:15
nixternalsay i am making a change that is in Dapper documentation, does that matter?12:15
MadpilotLaserJock, no PM yet - is the guy registered & identified?12:16
LaserJockI don't know12:16
LaserJockshould I just tell him to go to -ops?12:16
Madpilotah - he need to ident12:16
Madpilotsure12:16
dsasnixternal: Yes, if you're working on dapper docs then you want to checkout the dapper branch.12:17
nixternalok, that is what i thought, just wanted to make sure ;)12:17
nixternalok, so trunk == edgy right now...and to grab the dapper repos, i would 'svn checkout https://docteam....../repos/dapper blah12:19
nixternali was close, branches/dapper12:20
MadpilotLaserJock, does this guy really want to be unbanned? He hasn't managed to join #ubuntu-ops either...12:22
LaserJockwell, he managed to become a Mark imposter12:23
LaserJockjoined as "Mark Shuttleworth" and then sabdfl shows up :-)12:23
Madpilot... that might be why he got banned from #ubuntu in the first place...12:24
nixternalhahaha12:24
nixternalthat is kind of funny...sabdfl even got a slight kick out of it, it seems12:24
nixternali liked his reaction12:24
Madpilotanyway, if he doesn't ident for PM or doesn't join #ubuntu-ops, there's not a lot can be done for him...12:24
MadpilotWhat did sabdfl say?12:25
LaserJock"<sabdfl> *cough choke splutter*"12:25
LaserJock;-)12:25
Madpilotheh12:25
nixternal[17:20]  *** MarkShuttleWorth is now known as HarrySprocket.12:25
nixternal[17:20]  <sabdfl> *cough choke splutter*12:25
nixternal[17:20]  <HarrySprocket> Does Mark Chat in here sometimes?12:25
nixternal[17:20]  <crimsun> he's right there.12:25
nixternal[17:20]  <sabdfl> imposter12:25
nixternalhehe ya12:25
nixternalsorry about that one btw12:26
nixternali grabbed more then i thought12:26
crimsunit's pretty obvious if you follow hostmasks.12:26
crimsunI don't even bother with nicks; I use hostmasks.12:27
crimsunI guess that dates me. (Sigh, too many years spent on undernet, efnet, and the like with channel takeovers)12:27
nixternalhehe12:28
nixternali did my undernet and efnet time, and spent most of mine though at etg12:28
dsashmm, it appears that the various gnome guides don't have any licensing information viewable in yelp at all.12:33
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nixternal_do the release notes need to be updated for the Dapper .1 release?12:43
nixternal_for instance, I believe that the .1 release will contain KDE 3.5.3 in it now, and no longer contain 3.5.212:43
crimsunsure, why not?12:43
nixternalthere hasn't been a "freeze" has there to get documentation and what not into the .1 release?12:43
LaserJockdsas: are you sure12:44
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dsasLaserJock: I can't see any in the desktop guide or sys admin guide, I haven't checked the others.12:45
dsasLaserJock: The web page has it as the front page, and the dapper source package has a legal.xml file though.12:45
dsasodd.12:45
LaserJockdsas: did you look in "about this document" in the yelp menu?12:46
dsasLaserJock: Ahh, slight misunderstanding. I'm talking about the upstream gnome docs, rather than the ubuntu guides.12:48
LaserJockoh12:48
nixternaloh well, so much for dapper .1 release, but we can get doc updates12:52
nixternalfor instance...take a look at the dapper release notes for kubuntu...it has LS instead of LTS and Sine instead of Since...may not be important, but nees a lil fixin'12:53
MadpilotDoes anyone know if System->Preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts exists in a stock Dapper install?12:53
dsasnixternal: Have you saw https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperPointOneAnnouncement12:53
nixternalnot until just now ;) thanks dsas12:54
LaserJockMadpilot: it should12:54
MadpilotOK, thanks, I've long ago lost track of what extra config utils I've installed :)12:55
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LaserJockgrrrr, I'm not liking mediawiki today :(01:16
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nixternalsomebody doing Mailing List work?01:37
jsgotangcowhats up01:37
nixternali just sent an email to the doc-team list and it bounced back saying it is in moderation01:37
nixternalhiya jsgotangco01:37
nixternalsays im not a member01:37
jsgotangcolet me check01:37
jsgotangcoits your lucky day i just woke up01:37
nixternali think i know why actually01:38
nixternalhehe01:38
nixternali just switched over to @ubuntu.com and remove the @gmail.com01:38
nixternal??01:38
jsgotangcoyou have to unsubcribe gmail but im adding your ubuntu.com 01:39
nixternalok01:39
nixternalwow, i have a lot of those to do now01:39
jsgotangcoubject:  Kubuntu Dapper Release Notes Edit01:39
jsgotangco  Size: 4200 bytes01:39
jsgotangco  Reason: Post by non-member to a members-only list01:39
nixternalis there an easy 1 stop shop for the lists to edit that for lists.ubuntu.com?01:39
jsgotangcono01:40
jsgotangco:)01:40
crimsunyes. /bin/sh + mail .01:40
jsgotangcoyes?01:40
crimsunyou could script your (un)sub requests01:40
jsgotangcoahhh01:40
crimsunif you mean a Web-friendly way, um, I don't...think so?01:41
jsgotangcoyeah01:41
LaserJockwha?01:46
LaserJockyou can change your email address in the web interface01:46
jsgotangcosure01:46
jsgotangcobut what if you have 100+ subs :)01:46
LaserJockyou can do all the lists at list.ubuntu.com at the same time01:48
jsgotangcowha?01:49
LaserJockyou hit "Change Globally"01:49
LaserJockand it applies to all the lists you are subscribed to on lists.ubuntu.com01:49
LaserJockthat's standard mailman I believe01:50
jsgotangcointeresting01:50
nixternali just did that01:58
nixternaland now i can't log in to any of the lists with 'nixternal@ubuntu.com' or the original 'nixternal@gmail.com'01:59
nixternalhowever...01:59
nixternalit does show me registered on all the lists as 'nixternal@ubuntu.com'01:59
nixternalthank it is fixed now ;)02:53
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nixternalquestion, did anyone see the "patch" for kubuntu dapper release notes come across the doc list?06:13
Plugyep06:16
nixternalarg06:19
nixternali just resent it, because i haven't seen anything come across my list06:19
nixternali apologize then for the multiple emails06:21
crimsunyeah thanks for the spam. =] 06:28
nixternalhehe06:29
nixternalenjoy it...06:29
jsgotangcomeh i told you im going to moderate it :P06:46
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nixternalya, im slow ;)06:58
jsgotangcoLP07:01
jsgotangcoagghh07:01
nixternalhehe07:01
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nixternalwhat is up with "carriage returns" not working as they should on the wiki?07:25
nixternali hit enter, yet it doesn't space the lines, i have to enter twice, and then i get a big goofy space07:25
Madpilotstick [[BR] ]  in there07:31
nixternalarg BR ;)07:31
nixternali keep forgetting CAPITAL07:32
crimsuncome on, you know this, mister php.07:32
nixternalhehe07:32
nixternalim one of those morons who hate shift keys07:32
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fyrestrtrcan someone review my recent addition to the wiki? Is it okay? First time playing with the wiki :) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DemocracyPlayer08:11
Madpilotfyrestrtr, don't forget that Dapper has gdebi now - command-line-free way of installing deb files08:11
Madpilotaside from that, it looks pretty good.08:11
fyrestrtroh heh -- I don't do much point-clicking08:12
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nixternalfyrestrtr: you play with DemPlayer quite a bit?08:18
nixternali have played with some KDE version in the past, and it got on my nerves08:18
fyrestrtrno, I installed it in hopes of watching the wwdc broadcast :(08:18
nixternali was thinkin' of picking something up and playing with it again08:18
fyrestrtrits working here fine, is there something specific you want me to check out?08:20
nixternalnah, any good video/podcasts on it now a days?08:21
fyrestrtrwell I wouldn't know :) just got it.08:22
nixternalFYI, leave the "Global Changes" alone on the mailing list, they do way more harm then good08:27
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mdkenixternal: are those patches on the list both the same?10:28
mdkeah, yes they are10:29
jsgotangcoyeah the first email was on moderation queue but he got itchy he sent it again lol10:30
mdkewonder why it was in the queue10:31
mdkethey are from the same address10:31
jsgotangcohe changed his address10:33
mdkeboth mails are from nixternal@ubuntu.com10:34
mdkebeats me10:35
jsgotangcoyeah10:35
robmdke, do you think the doc team will want to try relicensing the docs?10:56
mdkerob: I don't know. I'd like to10:58
robsorry mdke, my mother just called..11:07
robwell, I'm happy to discuss relicensing everything that I've contributed11:07
mdkegood11:07
robno point reinventing the wheel11:10
robI should be able to help you dissect who owns what too11:11
jsgotangcohey11:11
ompaulI thought licences were all sorted after that mail to your 4k customers mdke 11:13
mdkethat was the wiki. Sadly even that isn't sorted out, however11:14
robkeep me posted on what you guys want to do11:16
mdkeif you follow the mailing list you won't go far wrong.11:17
robyep, I have been11:19
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mdkethere is only a certain amount of xml errors you can see before you start going insane04:29
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jjessei've had problems like that, especially on stuff I've written myself :(04:31
mdkehehe04:33
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jjesseooo jono is the new community manager05:27
mdkeyup05:28
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jjessedoh05:30
mdkeouch05:31
Burgworkincluding all over the papers and notebook I am using05:31
jjessethat sucks05:31
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Burgworkmeh, it happens05:31
Burgworkpaper dries05:32
mdkefingers crossed for the notebook05:32
Burgworkoh, paper notebook, not computer05:32
mdkeah, good05:32
Burgworkmy keyboard got some, but we have lots of those05:32
nixternalarg05:33
Burgworknixternal, hmm?05:35
nixternalhmm?05:47
nixternali read your comment as you "split your teeth"...it is to early and not enough coffee or tea yet05:48
Burgworkright05:56
Burgworkmy tea may be rooibos, but it is not that strong05:56
nixternalhehe05:57
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ompaulany idea where Kamping_Kaiser's DebMirror Doc ended up on help - I can't find it08:03
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nixternaljjesse: did you get my message yesterday about "membership" and mako?09:05
jjessei missed it 09:07
nixternalstill waiting for that one, but I am a member none the less, with the kubuntu membership09:08
nixternalhttps://launchpad.net/people/nixternal09:08
jjesseah cool09:08
nixternalomg, i just pulled a Burgwork, and spilled my tea09:09
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nixternaljjesse: you said you can't commit and what not because of your gpg issue right?09:59
nixternalso if i create a patch for kubuntu docs or what not in Dapper or Edgy, I should just submit them to the list and not to you? or...09:59
jjessenixternal: sorry was away for a bit, yeah just mail the list10:11
nixternalroger that10:24
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nixternalalrighty, im not getting any of the emails from the doc list, anyone admin here than can check my account?10:33
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nixternalhi, bye11:00
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ompaulnixternal, try to resub? if it accepts you then something happened 11:33
ompaulnixternal, I sent one a couple of hours ago and Brian Burger answered  have you seen them?11:34
nixternalsorry, no i haven't11:48
nixternali just tried to resub, and i get the email telling me some tried to register my account..so it has me registered11:49
Burgworkgoing to have to wait for jerome or mdke 11:50
nixternalfun ;)11:54
Burgworkthey were going to give me rights, but if feel by the wayside11:54
Burgworkor maybe it was concern about collection of too much power...11:54
nixternalmuhaha ;)11:54
nixternali think you should, since you are here during the times they aren't11:55
nixternalmakes since to me, and i am sure you aren't going anywhere and i think you are trustworthy ;)11:55
nixternalyou can commit, and i can't if that makes you feel any better ;p11:55
nixternali may have found out why i didn't receive any...maybe...some goofy french/english filters11:57
nixternalooh..im gonna watch lrl video11:59

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