[12:12] <LaserJock> Madpilot: a guy named HarrySprocket is on -devel asking to be unbanned
[12:12] <Madpilot> get him to PM me
[12:12] <LaserJock> k
[12:12] <Madpilot> did he say why he was banned in the first place, and who banned him?
[12:12] <LaserJock> no, and perhaps he doesn't even know
[12:13] <Madpilot> he should have some idea of why he earned the ban, but anyway... get him to PM me
[12:13] <LaserJock> well, he didn't say
[12:13] <LaserJock> anyway I told him to pm you
[12:14] <Madpilot> ok
[12:14] <LaserJock> is there a channel people can go to for that?
[12:14] <Madpilot> there's #ubuntu-ops
[12:14] <LaserJock> ah
[12:14] <LaserJock> I wondered
[12:14] <LaserJock> it comes up know and then
[12:14] <Madpilot> yeah - you can always send people there, too
[12:15] <nixternal> quick question...on the doc svn, the global.ent file has "Edgy" for versions right...so now if i create a docbook file, and use the global.ent, it will say "Edgy" for version and not "Dapper".
[12:15] <nixternal> now
[12:15] <nixternal> say i am making a change that is in Dapper documentation, does that matter?
[12:16] <Madpilot> LaserJock, no PM yet - is the guy registered & identified?
[12:16] <LaserJock> I don't know
[12:16] <LaserJock> should I just tell him to go to -ops?
[12:16] <Madpilot> ah - he need to ident
[12:16] <Madpilot> sure
[12:17] <dsas> nixternal: Yes, if you're working on dapper docs then you want to checkout the dapper branch.
[12:17] <nixternal> ok, that is what i thought, just wanted to make sure ;)
[12:19] <nixternal> ok, so trunk == edgy right now...and to grab the dapper repos, i would 'svn checkout https://docteam....../repos/dapper blah
[12:20] <nixternal> i was close, branches/dapper
[12:22] <Madpilot> LaserJock, does this guy really want to be unbanned? He hasn't managed to join #ubuntu-ops either...
[12:23] <LaserJock> well, he managed to become a Mark imposter
[12:23] <LaserJock> joined as "Mark Shuttleworth" and then sabdfl shows up :-)
[12:24] <Madpilot> ... that might be why he got banned from #ubuntu in the first place...
[12:24] <nixternal> hahaha
[12:24] <nixternal> that is kind of funny...sabdfl even got a slight kick out of it, it seems
[12:24] <nixternal> i liked his reaction
[12:24] <Madpilot> anyway, if he doesn't ident for PM or doesn't join #ubuntu-ops, there's not a lot can be done for him...
[12:25] <Madpilot> What did sabdfl say?
[12:25] <LaserJock> "<sabdfl> *cough choke splutter*"
[12:25] <LaserJock> ;-)
[12:25] <Madpilot> heh
[12:25] <nixternal> [17:20]  *** MarkShuttleWorth is now known as HarrySprocket.
[12:25] <nixternal> [17:20]  <sabdfl> *cough choke splutter*
[12:25] <nixternal> [17:20]  <HarrySprocket> Does Mark Chat in here sometimes?
[12:25] <nixternal> [17:20]  <crimsun> he's right there.
[12:25] <nixternal> [17:20]  <sabdfl> imposter
[12:25] <nixternal> hehe ya
[12:26] <nixternal> sorry about that one btw
[12:26] <nixternal> i grabbed more then i thought
[12:26] <crimsun> it's pretty obvious if you follow hostmasks.
[12:27] <crimsun> I don't even bother with nicks; I use hostmasks.
[12:27] <crimsun> I guess that dates me. (Sigh, too many years spent on undernet, efnet, and the like with channel takeovers)
[12:28] <nixternal> hehe
[12:28] <nixternal> i did my undernet and efnet time, and spent most of mine though at etg
[12:33] <dsas> hmm, it appears that the various gnome guides don't have any licensing information viewable in yelp at all.
[12:43] <nixternal_> do the release notes need to be updated for the Dapper .1 release?
[12:43] <nixternal_> for instance, I believe that the .1 release will contain KDE 3.5.3 in it now, and no longer contain 3.5.2
[12:43] <crimsun> sure, why not?
[12:43] <nixternal> there hasn't been a "freeze" has there to get documentation and what not into the .1 release?
[12:44] <LaserJock> dsas: are you sure
[12:45] <dsas> LaserJock: I can't see any in the desktop guide or sys admin guide, I haven't checked the others.
[12:45] <dsas> LaserJock: The web page has it as the front page, and the dapper source package has a legal.xml file though.
[12:45] <dsas> odd.
[12:46] <LaserJock> dsas: did you look in "about this document" in the yelp menu?
[12:48] <dsas> LaserJock: Ahh, slight misunderstanding. I'm talking about the upstream gnome docs, rather than the ubuntu guides.
[12:48] <LaserJock> oh
[12:52] <nixternal> oh well, so much for dapper .1 release, but we can get doc updates
[12:53] <nixternal> for instance...take a look at the dapper release notes for kubuntu...it has LS instead of LTS and Sine instead of Since...may not be important, but nees a lil fixin'
[12:53] <Madpilot> Does anyone know if System->Preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts exists in a stock Dapper install?
[12:53] <dsas> nixternal: Have you saw https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperPointOneAnnouncement
[12:54] <nixternal> not until just now ;) thanks dsas
[12:54] <LaserJock> Madpilot: it should
[12:55] <Madpilot> OK, thanks, I've long ago lost track of what extra config utils I've installed :)
[01:16] <LaserJock> grrrr, I'm not liking mediawiki today :(
[01:37] <nixternal> somebody doing Mailing List work?
[01:37] <jsgotangco> whats up
[01:37] <nixternal> i just sent an email to the doc-team list and it bounced back saying it is in moderation
[01:37] <nixternal> hiya jsgotangco
[01:37] <nixternal> says im not a member
[01:37] <jsgotangco> let me check
[01:37] <jsgotangco> its your lucky day i just woke up
[01:38] <nixternal> i think i know why actually
[01:38] <nixternal> hehe
[01:38] <nixternal> i just switched over to @ubuntu.com and remove the @gmail.com
[01:38] <nixternal> ??
[01:39] <jsgotangco> you have to unsubcribe gmail but im adding your ubuntu.com 
[01:39] <nixternal> ok
[01:39] <nixternal> wow, i have a lot of those to do now
[01:39] <jsgotangco> ubject:  	Kubuntu Dapper Release Notes Edit
[01:39] <jsgotangco>   	Size: 	4200 bytes
[01:39] <jsgotangco>   	Reason: 	Post by non-member to a members-only list
[01:39] <nixternal> is there an easy 1 stop shop for the lists to edit that for lists.ubuntu.com?
[01:40] <jsgotangco> no
[01:40] <jsgotangco> :)
[01:40] <crimsun> yes. /bin/sh + mail .
[01:40] <jsgotangco> yes?
[01:40] <crimsun> you could script your (un)sub requests
[01:40] <jsgotangco> ahhh
[01:41] <crimsun> if you mean a Web-friendly way, um, I don't...think so?
[01:41] <jsgotangco> yeah
[01:46] <LaserJock> wha?
[01:46] <LaserJock> you can change your email address in the web interface
[01:46] <jsgotangco> sure
[01:46] <jsgotangco> but what if you have 100+ subs :)
[01:48] <LaserJock> you can do all the lists at list.ubuntu.com at the same time
[01:49] <jsgotangco> wha?
[01:49] <LaserJock> you hit "Change Globally"
[01:49] <LaserJock> and it applies to all the lists you are subscribed to on lists.ubuntu.com
[01:50] <LaserJock> that's standard mailman I believe
[01:50] <jsgotangco> interesting
[01:58] <nixternal> i just did that
[01:59] <nixternal> and now i can't log in to any of the lists with 'nixternal@ubuntu.com' or the original 'nixternal@gmail.com'
[01:59] <nixternal> however...
[01:59] <nixternal> it does show me registered on all the lists as 'nixternal@ubuntu.com'
[02:53] <nixternal> thank it is fixed now ;)
[06:13] <nixternal> question, did anyone see the "patch" for kubuntu dapper release notes come across the doc list?
[06:16] <Plug> yep
[06:19] <nixternal> arg
[06:19] <nixternal> i just resent it, because i haven't seen anything come across my list
[06:21] <nixternal> i apologize then for the multiple emails
[06:28] <crimsun> yeah thanks for the spam. =] 
[06:29] <nixternal> hehe
[06:29] <nixternal> enjoy it...
[06:46] <jsgotangco> meh i told you im going to moderate it :P
[06:58] <nixternal> ya, im slow ;)
[07:01] <jsgotangco> LP
[07:01] <jsgotangco> agghh
[07:01] <nixternal> hehe
[07:25] <nixternal> what is up with "carriage returns" not working as they should on the wiki?
[07:25] <nixternal> i hit enter, yet it doesn't space the lines, i have to enter twice, and then i get a big goofy space
[07:31] <Madpilot> stick [[BR] ]  in there
[07:31] <nixternal> arg BR ;)
[07:32] <nixternal> i keep forgetting CAPITAL
[07:32] <crimsun> come on, you know this, mister php.
[07:32] <nixternal> hehe
[07:32] <nixternal> im one of those morons who hate shift keys
[08:11] <fyrestrtr> can someone review my recent addition to the wiki? Is it okay? First time playing with the wiki :) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DemocracyPlayer
[08:11] <Madpilot> fyrestrtr, don't forget that Dapper has gdebi now - command-line-free way of installing deb files
[08:11] <Madpilot> aside from that, it looks pretty good.
[08:12] <fyrestrtr> oh heh -- I don't do much point-clicking
[08:18] <nixternal> fyrestrtr: you play with DemPlayer quite a bit?
[08:18] <nixternal> i have played with some KDE version in the past, and it got on my nerves
[08:18] <fyrestrtr> no, I installed it in hopes of watching the wwdc broadcast :(
[08:18] <nixternal> i was thinkin' of picking something up and playing with it again
[08:20] <fyrestrtr> its working here fine, is there something specific you want me to check out?
[08:21] <nixternal> nah, any good video/podcasts on it now a days?
[08:22] <fyrestrtr> well I wouldn't know :) just got it.
[08:27] <nixternal> FYI, leave the "Global Changes" alone on the mailing list, they do way more harm then good
[10:28] <mdke> nixternal: are those patches on the list both the same?
[10:29] <mdke> ah, yes they are
[10:30] <jsgotangco> yeah the first email was on moderation queue but he got itchy he sent it again lol
[10:31] <mdke> wonder why it was in the queue
[10:31] <mdke> they are from the same address
[10:33] <jsgotangco> he changed his address
[10:34] <mdke> both mails are from nixternal@ubuntu.com
[10:35] <mdke> beats me
[10:35] <jsgotangco> yeah
[10:56] <rob> mdke, do you think the doc team will want to try relicensing the docs?
[10:58] <mdke> rob: I don't know. I'd like to
[11:07] <rob> sorry mdke, my mother just called..
[11:07] <rob> well, I'm happy to discuss relicensing everything that I've contributed
[11:07] <mdke> good
[11:10] <rob> no point reinventing the wheel
[11:11] <rob> I should be able to help you dissect who owns what too
[11:11] <jsgotangco> hey
[11:13] <ompaul> I thought licences were all sorted after that mail to your 4k customers mdke 
[11:14] <mdke> that was the wiki. Sadly even that isn't sorted out, however
[11:16] <rob> keep me posted on what you guys want to do
[11:17] <mdke> if you follow the mailing list you won't go far wrong.
[11:19] <rob> yep, I have been
[04:29] <mdke> there is only a certain amount of xml errors you can see before you start going insane
[04:31] <jjesse> i've had problems like that, especially on stuff I've written myself :(
[04:33] <mdke> hehe
[05:27] <jjesse> ooo jono is the new community manager
[05:28] <mdke> yup
[05:30] <jjesse> doh
[05:31] <mdke> ouch
[05:31] <Burgwork> including all over the papers and notebook I am using
[05:31] <jjesse> that sucks
[05:31] <Burgwork> meh, it happens
[05:32] <Burgwork> paper dries
[05:32] <mdke> fingers crossed for the notebook
[05:32] <Burgwork> oh, paper notebook, not computer
[05:32] <mdke> ah, good
[05:32] <Burgwork> my keyboard got some, but we have lots of those
[05:33] <nixternal> arg
[05:35] <Burgwork> nixternal, hmm?
[05:47] <nixternal> hmm?
[05:48] <nixternal> i read your comment as you "split your teeth"...it is to early and not enough coffee or tea yet
[05:56] <Burgwork> right
[05:56] <Burgwork> my tea may be rooibos, but it is not that strong
[05:57] <nixternal> hehe
[08:03] <ompaul> any idea where Kamping_Kaiser's DebMirror Doc ended up on help - I can't find it
[09:05] <nixternal> jjesse: did you get my message yesterday about "membership" and mako?
[09:07] <jjesse> i missed it 
[09:08] <nixternal> still waiting for that one, but I am a member none the less, with the kubuntu membership
[09:08] <nixternal> https://launchpad.net/people/nixternal
[09:08] <jjesse> ah cool
[09:09] <nixternal> omg, i just pulled a Burgwork, and spilled my tea
[09:59] <nixternal> jjesse: you said you can't commit and what not because of your gpg issue right?
[09:59] <nixternal> so if i create a patch for kubuntu docs or what not in Dapper or Edgy, I should just submit them to the list and not to you? or...
[10:11] <jjesse> nixternal: sorry was away for a bit, yeah just mail the list
[10:24] <nixternal> roger that
[10:33] <nixternal> alrighty, im not getting any of the emails from the doc list, anyone admin here than can check my account?
[11:00] <nixternal> hi, bye
[11:33] <ompaul> nixternal, try to resub? if it accepts you then something happened 
[11:34] <ompaul> nixternal, I sent one a couple of hours ago and Brian Burger answered  have you seen them?
[11:48] <nixternal> sorry, no i haven't
[11:49] <nixternal> i just tried to resub, and i get the email telling me some tried to register my account..so it has me registered
[11:50] <Burgwork> going to have to wait for jerome or mdke 
[11:54] <nixternal> fun ;)
[11:54] <Burgwork> they were going to give me rights, but if feel by the wayside
[11:54] <Burgwork> or maybe it was concern about collection of too much power...
[11:54] <nixternal> muhaha ;)
[11:55] <nixternal> i think you should, since you are here during the times they aren't
[11:55] <nixternal> makes since to me, and i am sure you aren't going anywhere and i think you are trustworthy ;)
[11:55] <nixternal> you can commit, and i can't if that makes you feel any better ;p
[11:57] <nixternal> i may have found out why i didn't receive any...maybe...some goofy french/english filters
[11:59] <nixternal> ooh..im gonna watch lrl video