[12:12] Madpilot: a guy named HarrySprocket is on -devel asking to be unbanned [12:12] get him to PM me [12:12] k [12:12] did he say why he was banned in the first place, and who banned him? [12:12] no, and perhaps he doesn't even know [12:13] he should have some idea of why he earned the ban, but anyway... get him to PM me [12:13] well, he didn't say [12:13] anyway I told him to pm you [12:14] ok [12:14] is there a channel people can go to for that? [12:14] there's #ubuntu-ops [12:14] ah [12:14] I wondered [12:14] it comes up know and then [12:14] yeah - you can always send people there, too [12:15] quick question...on the doc svn, the global.ent file has "Edgy" for versions right...so now if i create a docbook file, and use the global.ent, it will say "Edgy" for version and not "Dapper". [12:15] now [12:15] say i am making a change that is in Dapper documentation, does that matter? [12:16] LaserJock, no PM yet - is the guy registered & identified? [12:16] I don't know [12:16] should I just tell him to go to -ops? [12:16] ah - he need to ident [12:16] sure [12:17] nixternal: Yes, if you're working on dapper docs then you want to checkout the dapper branch. [12:17] ok, that is what i thought, just wanted to make sure ;) [12:19] ok, so trunk == edgy right now...and to grab the dapper repos, i would 'svn checkout https://docteam....../repos/dapper blah [12:20] i was close, branches/dapper [12:22] LaserJock, does this guy really want to be unbanned? He hasn't managed to join #ubuntu-ops either... [12:23] well, he managed to become a Mark imposter [12:23] joined as "Mark Shuttleworth" and then sabdfl shows up :-) [12:24] ... that might be why he got banned from #ubuntu in the first place... [12:24] hahaha [12:24] that is kind of funny...sabdfl even got a slight kick out of it, it seems [12:24] i liked his reaction [12:24] anyway, if he doesn't ident for PM or doesn't join #ubuntu-ops, there's not a lot can be done for him... [12:25] What did sabdfl say? [12:25] " *cough choke splutter*" [12:25] ;-) [12:25] heh [12:25] [17:20] *** MarkShuttleWorth is now known as HarrySprocket. [12:25] [17:20] *cough choke splutter* [12:25] [17:20] Does Mark Chat in here sometimes? [12:25] [17:20] he's right there. [12:25] [17:20] imposter [12:25] hehe ya [12:26] sorry about that one btw [12:26] i grabbed more then i thought [12:26] it's pretty obvious if you follow hostmasks. [12:27] I don't even bother with nicks; I use hostmasks. [12:27] I guess that dates me. (Sigh, too many years spent on undernet, efnet, and the like with channel takeovers) [12:28] hehe [12:28] i did my undernet and efnet time, and spent most of mine though at etg [12:33] hmm, it appears that the various gnome guides don't have any licensing information viewable in yelp at all. === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-doc [12:43] do the release notes need to be updated for the Dapper .1 release? [12:43] for instance, I believe that the .1 release will contain KDE 3.5.3 in it now, and no longer contain 3.5.2 [12:43] sure, why not? [12:43] there hasn't been a "freeze" has there to get documentation and what not into the .1 release? [12:44] dsas: are you sure === _sara [n=sara@pool-70-104-66-252.pskn.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [12:45] LaserJock: I can't see any in the desktop guide or sys admin guide, I haven't checked the others. [12:45] LaserJock: The web page has it as the front page, and the dapper source package has a legal.xml file though. [12:45] odd. [12:46] dsas: did you look in "about this document" in the yelp menu? [12:48] LaserJock: Ahh, slight misunderstanding. I'm talking about the upstream gnome docs, rather than the ubuntu guides. [12:48] oh [12:52] oh well, so much for dapper .1 release, but we can get doc updates [12:53] for instance...take a look at the dapper release notes for kubuntu...it has LS instead of LTS and Sine instead of Since...may not be important, but nees a lil fixin' [12:53] Does anyone know if System->Preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts exists in a stock Dapper install? [12:53] nixternal: Have you saw https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperPointOneAnnouncement [12:54] not until just now ;) thanks dsas [12:54] Madpilot: it should [12:55] OK, thanks, I've long ago lost track of what extra config utils I've installed :) === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #ubuntu-doc [01:16] grrrr, I'm not liking mediawiki today :( === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-doc [01:37] somebody doing Mailing List work? [01:37] whats up [01:37] i just sent an email to the doc-team list and it bounced back saying it is in moderation [01:37] hiya jsgotangco [01:37] says im not a member [01:37] let me check [01:37] its your lucky day i just woke up [01:38] i think i know why actually [01:38] hehe [01:38] i just switched over to @ubuntu.com and remove the @gmail.com [01:38] ?? [01:39] you have to unsubcribe gmail but im adding your ubuntu.com [01:39] ok [01:39] wow, i have a lot of those to do now [01:39] ubject: Kubuntu Dapper Release Notes Edit [01:39] Size: 4200 bytes [01:39] Reason: Post by non-member to a members-only list [01:39] is there an easy 1 stop shop for the lists to edit that for lists.ubuntu.com? [01:40] no [01:40] :) [01:40] yes. /bin/sh + mail . [01:40] yes? [01:40] you could script your (un)sub requests [01:40] ahhh [01:41] if you mean a Web-friendly way, um, I don't...think so? [01:41] yeah [01:46] wha? [01:46] you can change your email address in the web interface [01:46] sure [01:46] but what if you have 100+ subs :) [01:48] you can do all the lists at list.ubuntu.com at the same time [01:49] wha? [01:49] you hit "Change Globally" [01:49] and it applies to all the lists you are subscribed to on lists.ubuntu.com [01:50] that's standard mailman I believe [01:50] interesting [01:58] i just did that [01:59] and now i can't log in to any of the lists with 'nixternal@ubuntu.com' or the original 'nixternal@gmail.com' [01:59] however... [01:59] it does show me registered on all the lists as 'nixternal@ubuntu.com' [02:53] thank it is fixed now ;) === Kamping_Kaiser [n=kgoetz@easyubuntu/docteam/kgoetz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@dialup-4.159.11.33.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === dsas [n=dean@host81-158-83-114.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === poningru [n=poningru@pool-72-64-211-102.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@dialup-4.159.11.95.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bhuvan [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:13] question, did anyone see the "patch" for kubuntu dapper release notes come across the doc list? [06:16] yep [06:19] arg [06:19] i just resent it, because i haven't seen anything come across my list [06:21] i apologize then for the multiple emails [06:28] yeah thanks for the spam. =] [06:29] hehe [06:29] enjoy it... [06:46] meh i told you im going to moderate it :P === mpt [n=mpt@210-246-52-66.paradise.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:58] ya, im slow ;) [07:01] LP [07:01] agghh [07:01] hehe === mpt_ [n=mpt@210-246-52-87.paradise.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bimberi_ [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:25] what is up with "carriage returns" not working as they should on the wiki? [07:25] i hit enter, yet it doesn't space the lines, i have to enter twice, and then i get a big goofy space [07:31] stick [[BR] ] in there [07:31] arg BR ;) [07:32] i keep forgetting CAPITAL [07:32] come on, you know this, mister php. [07:32] hehe [07:32] im one of those morons who hate shift keys === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@210-55-36-169.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@dialup-4.159.11.34.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-doc === fyrestrtr [n=burhan@pdpc/supporter/student/fyrestrtr] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:11] can someone review my recent addition to the wiki? Is it okay? First time playing with the wiki :) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DemocracyPlayer [08:11] fyrestrtr, don't forget that Dapper has gdebi now - command-line-free way of installing deb files [08:11] aside from that, it looks pretty good. [08:12] oh heh -- I don't do much point-clicking === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@c58-107-168-5.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:18] fyrestrtr: you play with DemPlayer quite a bit? [08:18] i have played with some KDE version in the past, and it got on my nerves [08:18] no, I installed it in hopes of watching the wwdc broadcast :( [08:18] i was thinkin' of picking something up and playing with it again [08:20] its working here fine, is there something specific you want me to check out? [08:21] nah, any good video/podcasts on it now a days? [08:22] well I wouldn't know :) just got it. [08:27] FYI, leave the "Global Changes" alone on the mailing list, they do way more harm then good === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@210-55-179-100.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === glatzor [n=sebi@ppp-62-245-210-231.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:28] nixternal: are those patches on the list both the same? [10:29] ah, yes they are [10:30] yeah the first email was on moderation queue but he got itchy he sent it again lol [10:31] wonder why it was in the queue [10:31] they are from the same address [10:33] he changed his address [10:34] both mails are from nixternal@ubuntu.com [10:35] beats me [10:35] yeah [10:56] mdke, do you think the doc team will want to try relicensing the docs? [10:58] rob: I don't know. I'd like to [11:07] sorry mdke, my mother just called.. [11:07] well, I'm happy to discuss relicensing everything that I've contributed [11:07] good [11:10] no point reinventing the wheel [11:11] I should be able to help you dissect who owns what too [11:11] hey [11:13] I thought licences were all sorted after that mail to your 4k customers mdke [11:14] that was the wiki. Sadly even that isn't sorted out, however [11:16] keep me posted on what you guys want to do [11:17] if you follow the mailing list you won't go far wrong. [11:19] yep, I have been === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@219-88-41-245.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === manicka [n=manicka@ubuntu/member/manicka] has joined #ubuntu-doc === lloydinho [n=andreas@rosinante.egmont-kol.dk] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt_ [n=mpt@219-88-41-91.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mdke embarks on another translation quest === mpt [n=mpt@210-55-85-101.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@210-55-85-101.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-doc === skora [n=skora@70-39-193-120.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [n=jjesse@64.186.55.234] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@210-55-43-90.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-doc [04:29] there is only a certain amount of xml errors you can see before you start going insane === mdke is perilously close to the threshold [04:31] i've had problems like that, especially on stuff I've written myself :( [04:33] hehe === mdke takes a break === Burgwork [n=corey@d66-183-174-128.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:27] ooo jono is the new community manager [05:28] yup === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Burgwork just split his tea all over his desk [05:30] doh [05:31] ouch [05:31] including all over the papers and notebook I am using [05:31] that sucks === nixternal [n=nixterna@71.194.189.213] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:31] meh, it happens [05:32] paper dries [05:32] fingers crossed for the notebook [05:32] oh, paper notebook, not computer [05:32] ah, good [05:32] my keyboard got some, but we have lots of those [05:33] arg [05:35] nixternal, hmm? [05:47] hmm? [05:48] i read your comment as you "split your teeth"...it is to early and not enough coffee or tea yet [05:56] right [05:56] my tea may be rooibos, but it is not that strong [05:57] hehe === newz2000 [n=matt@12-216-147-124.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === lionelp [n=lionel@ip-128.net-82-216-65.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:03] any idea where Kamping_Kaiser's DebMirror Doc ended up on help - I can't find it === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-doc === newz2000 [n=matt@12-216-147-124.client.mchsi.com] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Talk] === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@dialup-4.159.11.164.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:05] jjesse: did you get my message yesterday about "membership" and mako? [09:07] i missed it [09:08] still waiting for that one, but I am a member none the less, with the kubuntu membership [09:08] https://launchpad.net/people/nixternal [09:08] ah cool [09:09] omg, i just pulled a Burgwork, and spilled my tea === dsas [n=dean@host81-158-83-114.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:59] jjesse: you said you can't commit and what not because of your gpg issue right? [09:59] so if i create a patch for kubuntu docs or what not in Dapper or Edgy, I should just submit them to the list and not to you? or... [10:11] nixternal: sorry was away for a bit, yeah just mail the list [10:24] roger that === manicka [n=manicka@ubuntu/member/manicka] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [n=jjesse@64.186.55.234] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-doc === manicka [n=manicka@ubuntu/member/manicka] has left #ubuntu-doc ["om] [10:33] alrighty, im not getting any of the emails from the doc list, anyone admin here than can check my account? === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-doc [11:00] hi, bye === fdoving [n=frode@ubuntu/member/frode] has joined #ubuntu-doc === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-doc [11:33] nixternal, try to resub? if it accepts you then something happened [11:34] nixternal, I sent one a couple of hours ago and Brian Burger answered have you seen them? [11:48] sorry, no i haven't [11:49] i just tried to resub, and i get the email telling me some tried to register my account..so it has me registered [11:50] going to have to wait for jerome or mdke [11:54] fun ;) [11:54] they were going to give me rights, but if feel by the wayside [11:54] or maybe it was concern about collection of too much power... [11:54] muhaha ;) [11:55] i think you should, since you are here during the times they aren't [11:55] makes since to me, and i am sure you aren't going anywhere and i think you are trustworthy ;) [11:55] you can commit, and i can't if that makes you feel any better ;p [11:57] i may have found out why i didn't receive any...maybe...some goofy french/english filters [11:59] ooh..im gonna watch lrl video