[12:53] <_sara> hello
[12:54] <_sara> anyone here
[12:55] <RichJ> hiya _sara !
[12:55] <nixternal> hiya _sara ;)
[12:55] <_sara> hey Rich :)
[12:56] <_sara> I  saw that you picked up the UWN
[12:57] <nixternal> ya, how i did that i will never know ;)
[12:57] <_sara> I was wondering if you need any help
[12:57] <nixternal> as well as being a Fridge dev now
[12:57] <nixternal> we always need help with the UWN
[12:57] <nixternal> Corey is currently restructuring the layout
[12:57] <_sara> what kind of help, maybe we can actually work togheter an make it work with the magazine
[12:58] <_sara> My Linux went capum!!! for a few days, but I am back on now
[12:58] <nixternal> hehe
[12:59] <nixternal> right now the UWN is pretty much a recap in the world of the developers and other community teams
[12:59] <nixternal> so, in order to publish the UWN, I have had to spend at least a good 8 hours to get information for it by scouring the mailing lists...the security updates and simple community news is easy
[12:59] <_sara> so what do yout hink we could do to make it more attractive to others?
[01:00] <nixternal> but the updates, new to edgy, community meetings/minutes is the real kicker to it
[01:00] <_sara> ohh
[01:00] <nixternal> right now, i don't think anyone outside of the community actually reads it, unless they catch it on the fridge and it interests them, or they of course subscribe to the new-list
[01:01] <_sara> I mean actuall community people that are not developers, just users
[01:02] <nixternal> i received an email from sabdfl about how I have gone forward with the UWN and he likes the direction of it, and stated he would enjoy to see the professionalism in it, for the community to read
[01:02] <_sara> cool!!
[01:02] <nixternal> the "users" will read it if someone points it to them more then likely...i don't think the news-list has a large amount of subscribers, so the fridge is it's only hope
[01:02] <_sara> that makes sence
[01:02] <nixternal> and i got on the fridge team via working for buntudot.org
[01:03] <_sara> ok
[01:03] <nixternal> all this happened while i was on vacation..so i was in mexico enjoyin' the sun and wifi at times
[01:04] <_sara> I know I remeber you saying something about that
[01:04] <nixternal> i went and looked at the house i almost bought, well now it is just a little piece of property since the owner burnt it down for insurance money
[01:04] <nixternal> im moving to mexico one of these days
[01:04] <nixternal> i will get there ;)
[01:05] <_sara> Well I have to get back to work on this magazine issue thing, I think that John has a good ised with the whole blog, video thing so we might take a turn on that direction, but at this point in time we need something
[01:05] <_sara> I am from latin America, but prefer the USA
[01:05] <nixternal> w/o a doubt
[01:05] <nixternal> hehe, im from the USA but prefer latin america ;)
[01:05] <_sara> maybe if I was  a millinair i would move back
[01:06] <nixternal> hehe, i have noticed the prices for sure, especially in cabo
[01:06] <nixternal> jalisco has some nice places for good prices, and i could get an IT job with the tequila manufacturers there easily if needed
[01:08] <_sara> well that sounds  like a plan
[01:08] <_sara> well I cam here to see what others though about the video, blog way on making a magazine, should I go that direction
[01:10] <nixternal> johnlittle has done an amazing job with the video stuff and has a great idea and future plan
[01:10] <nixternal> now getting people to do the videos is what we need, as well as screencasts
[01:11] <_sara> I have not seeing that, I remember writting an e-mail about it and getting some feedback but I don't remmber actaulyl seeing that
[01:12] <_sara> where can I take alook at that
[01:13] <nixternal> www.ubuntuvideos.com i think
[01:13] <nixternal> hmmm
[01:13] <nixternal> Hi there.
[01:13] <nixternal> johnlittle: ping?
[01:13] <_sara> ohh, it says hi there
[01:14] <nixternal> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/UbuntuVideo
[01:14] <nixternal> there is the wiki page he created
[01:14] <nixternal> he is make some changes and adding a lot of stuff, i do know that...that "Hi there..." could be his server message for "work being done"
[01:15] <nixternal> http://www.ubuntuvideo.com/
[01:15] <nixternal> that is the link there
[01:16] <_sara> ok thnaks, so I guess that I no longer have a job
[01:16] <bimberi> cuspweb
[01:16] <nixternal> heh, i wouldn't say that, you have the "Magazine"!!!!
[01:16] <bimberi> gah, wrong window :)
[01:17] <_sara> wait, I am confused because this is what we started working on so perhaps there is some duplication of work, or maybe overlapping
[01:17] <nixternal> OMG, that dual monitor XGL thing was awesome!
[01:17] <_sara> I swa that too i wish I had dual monitors
[01:18] <nixternal> oh, i didn't know that, concerning the video stuff
[01:18] <nixternal> i have dual, actually quad monitors, but i don't have XGL
[01:18] <nixternal> i don't think my computers are strong enough for XGL either
[01:18] <_sara> maybe I need to get in touch with John Little so we don't duplicate stuff, our stuff is different
[01:19] <_sara> ok have to go back to work
[01:19] <nixternal> arlighty, talk to you later sara!
[01:19] <nixternal> take care
[01:29] <johnlittle> looking for me?
[01:31] <nixternal> a little late ;)
[01:31] <johnlittle> yeah im readin
[01:32] <johnlittle> Not sure how the videos conflict with the magazine
[01:34] <johnlittle> I don't think theres much overlap..although a video magazine would be cool..like rocketboom
[01:34] <johnlittle> No video production for me though.
[01:36] <johnlittle> was that sara vasquez?
[01:36] <rjian> Hell,o People
[01:36] <johnlittle> hi
[01:37] <rjian> oh hello johnlittle
[02:00] <SteveMyers> Hey everyone, is there someone here I can speak with about joining the marketing team?
[02:03] <johnlittle> Youre in luck..they just opened it up. You can sign up at Launchpad
[02:03] <johnlittle> https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-marketing
[02:03] <MenZa> DAMNIT JENDA
[02:03] <MenZa> get back here.
[02:03] <MenZa> When's he gonna be back?
[02:08] <johnlittle> no idea
[02:08] <SteveMyers> ty johnlittle :)
[02:09] <johnlittle> sign up?
[02:09] <SteveMyers> here's the deal, with launch pad you have to wait and you don't get a chance into getting reviewed, but I was thinking more of the lines of UbuntuForums as my chances are higher
[02:10] <SteveMyers> but if you know someone who can review me from launchpad, then I will signup, I just need to find my login for launchpad
[02:10] <johnlittle> The instructions say sign up at launchpad...not sure if theres another way
[02:11] <johnlittle> it's an open team anyway
[02:11] <bimberi> SteveMyers: you don't have to be reviewed.  It's an open team so you can simply join once you've logged into LP
[02:12] <SteveMyers> Thanks bimberi :)
[02:12] <SteveMyers> Glad to be back online with launchpad, been a few years since I've logged in
[02:15] <SteveMyers> Good deal, thank you again johnlittle, and bimberi :)
[02:15] <SteveMyers> Glad to finally be on the team after 2 years of trying :-/
[02:20] <johnlittle> 2 years?
[02:20] <SteveMyers> yep
[02:20] <SteveMyers> Been with Ubuntu for 2 years
[02:21] <SteveMyers> been on the teams of UbuntuForums, created projects, etc etc
[02:24] <johnlittle> Theres quite a bit going on but I'm new here. just joined over the weekend
[02:24] <johnlittle> I'm just kind of doing stuff until I get in trouble.
[02:24] <SteveMyers> ?
[02:25] <johnlittle> was a joke
[02:25] <bimberi> johnlittle: what you're doing is great!
[02:26] <johnlittle> Bimberi: Thanks!
[02:26] <SteveMyers> hehe
[02:26] <SteveMyers> So what exactly does the marketing group of Ubuntu do...and are they linked in any way of the forums? it's been awhile since I've been back, so I am not sure what has changed over the past 2 years
[02:27] <bimberi> SteveMyers: you really need to take care with those timeframes.  Ubuntu's first release was less than 2 years ago :)
[02:28] <bimberi> SteveMyers: it's not linked with the forums afaik
[02:28] <SteveMyers> October 2005 I joined, yes my apologies
[02:28] <SteveMyers> 2004*
[02:28] <bimberi> SteveMyers: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/
[02:29] <bimberi> SteveMyers: wow, that's right at the beginning :)
[02:29] <johnlittle> everything I know I learned from this:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam
[02:29] <johnlittle> and nixternal :)
[02:29] <SteveMyers> I know :( I had to look at the schedule again to see my check when I joined...thought it was earlier than that
[02:29] <bimberi> johnlittle: i'm worried now ;)
[02:29] <johnlittle> lol
[02:29] <SteveMyers> Thanks for the link
[02:30] <SteveMyers> one sec
[02:33] <SteveMyers> still doing work on this page johnlittle?
[02:33] <SteveMyers> looks good :)
[02:33] <johnlittle> which one?
[02:33] <SteveMyers> the Ubuntu Marketing Team wiki page
[02:33] <johnlittle> Oh i just added the Ubuntu Video project to that page.
[02:33] <SteveMyers> oh ok
[02:34] <SteveMyers> one sec, need to find my login for the wiki.
[02:35] <SteveMyers> good deal, so what do you do on the marketing group john/
[02:35] <SteveMyers> ?
[02:36] <SteveMyers> Record Ubuntu Videos
[02:36] <SteveMyers> sorry just noticed
[02:36] <johnlittle> Mainly the Ubuntu Video project
[02:36] <SteveMyers> you like it?
[02:36] <johnlittle> Yeah
[02:37] <SteveMyers> Very nice Bio :D
[02:37] <SteveMyers> deffinently worth reading
[02:37] <johnlittle> thx..need to work on it but I hate doing those things
[02:37] <SteveMyers> hehe, I hear yah on that
[02:40] <johnlittle> I kind of did it all backwords. I made Ubuntu Video, then joined the team, and then developed the project page lol
[02:45] <SteveMyers> I like it
[02:46] <SteveMyers> nice to see you motivated before joining, deffinently a plus my friend :)
[02:46] <bimberi> johnlittle: that's the usual path really :)
[02:46] <johnlittle> Yeah :)
[02:53] <johnlittle> Is there something specific you wanted to work on Steve?
[03:27] <SteveMyers> sorry, got busy
[03:29] <rjian> hello steve
[03:29] <SteveMyers> hey rjian :)
[03:30] <rjian> wer u from?
[03:30] <SteveMyers> North Carolina, you?
[03:31] <rjian> im from Philippines
[03:32] <SteveMyers> Nice :) how's the weather ?
[03:32] <rjian> sometimes not good
[03:32] <rjian> hehe
[03:33] <SteveMyers> hehe, man, same here
[03:33] <SteveMyers> Weather is jumping up and down like a kid on a sugar high
[03:33] <SteveMyers> hehe
[03:33] <rjian> :)
[06:05] <RichJ> clear
[06:05] <RichJ> omg, i just did that in 2 different channels
[07:52] <Burgundavia> whiprush: one idea of spec communication might be to have a list published, in a form that is readable, at the beginning of the spec cycle
[07:55] <whiprush> Burgundavia: there's a big list published at the beginning of every cycle
[07:55] <whiprush> it's in every release note, and every annnouncement.
[07:55] <whiprush> the problem is that no one reads them
[07:55] <Burgundavia> right, but a quick summary, one sentence for each and why you care
[07:56] <Burgundavia> and also what is *NOT* being considered
[07:57] <nixternal> heh, i just got done reading it as a matter of fact for Edgy since I am trying to help jjesse with Kubuntu Edgy release notes ;)
[10:01] <adamant1988> hey all
[10:01] <Burgundavia> hey adamant1988
[10:02] <adamant1988> how's everyone?
[10:02] <adamant1988> Man the fedora community makes me appreciate Ubuntu's so much more.
[10:03] <adamant1988> I went in to ask them about an article I read in the fedora weekly news and I was called a troll and other things =\
[10:03] <Burgundavia> hmm, debian has a bit of that too
[10:03] <Burgundavia> sometimes Ubuntu can exhibit that side of humanity, but the lid is usually keeps a lid on it
[10:04] <adamant1988> yeah, pretty upsetting stuff... I was thinking about installing FC.. but I'm not sure I want to deal with them.
[10:14] <Madpilot> adamant1988, you could install Gentoo, and go brave #gentoo :)
[10:17] <adamant1988> hehe Madpilot I have no interest... My interest in fedora core is strictly nostalgic anyway... I used red hat 7.1 as my first distro, so I feel some odd sense of attachment to red hat products.
[10:17] <Burgundavia> many people first used Linux as an RH product
[10:18] <mdke> Madpilot: hey, #gentoo is nice!
[10:18] <mdke> isn't it?
[10:18] <Madpilot> not always
[10:18] <Madpilot> got into chatting with someone in -offtopic a while ago, they had some... interesting... tales
[10:19] <mdke> I found it good, I must say
[10:20] <Madpilot> maybe the rep is exaggerated; I've never had any reason to visit #gentoo myself, I'll admint
[10:20] <Madpilot> admit, even
[10:20] <mdke> forums are good too
[10:20] <Madpilot> I know the gentoo wiki is massive, and seems well put together
[10:21] <Burgundavia> yes, it is
[10:21] <adamant1988> I know the rep for debian isn't exaggerated
[10:21] <Burgundavia> they have had much longer at it than we have
[10:21] <adamant1988> to prove it I went into #debian and said that I used linspire in passing.
[10:21] <mdke> yes, debian is much less friendly
[10:21] <adamant1988> I was informed that I was lucky that bullets did not travel well through the net.
[10:21] <mdke> I suppose it's a matter of personal experience
[10:22] <mdke> I went to #debian with a question about a genuine debian system that I ran, but they refused to answer and flamed me because they saw that I was joined in various #ubuntu-* channels
[10:22] <adamant1988> I was almost kicked from #elive because I am an Ubuntu user =\
[10:45] <ompaul> my first linux was .... turbolinux
[10:46] <ompaul> I had been using freebsd before it, and I reverted to freebsd after that
[11:15] <YoussefAssad> wow, big marketing community
[06:58] <johnlittleWORK> afternoon
[11:27] <Burgwork> whiprush, ping