| bmonty | did any edgy automake packages get changed recently? | 12:11 |
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| crimsun | just the usual sync from Sid | 12:16 |
| bmonty | crimsun: does 10 Jul sound right to you for the last upload? I built a package in a pbuilder the other day with no problems, and now it FTBFS because of a syntax error in a Makefile. | 12:19 |
| crimsun | bmonty: of which source package? | 12:21 |
| bmonty | crimsun: I figure it has to be autoconf or make | 12:22 |
| crimsun | I know autoconf 2.60 has a few transition features; I'm not aware of any for automake. | 12:24 |
| crimsun | automake1.x ^ | 12:24 |
| bmonty | hmmm, looks like debian had a similar problem, but it magically went away | 12:25 |
| crimsun | if by "magically" you mean packages had to be fixed ;) | 12:26 |
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| bmonty | crimsun: no, I mean the package FTBFS, but then started building for some unknown reason (package is seq24) | 12:26 |
| crimsun | if it built successfully today but failed earlier, it's probably due to the mass give-back | 12:28 |
| crimsun | (I haven't looked at its LP page) | 12:28 |
| bmonty | It doesn't appear to have built successfully on the buildds, but I know it build in my pbuilder on Saturday | 12:29 |
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| crimsun | please do not feed the troll in -devel. | 12:48 |
| LaserJock | sorry | 12:48 |
| LaserJock | I just thought that was really funny | 12:48 |
| LaserJock | I think that was the funniest thing I've read today | 12:49 |
| nixternal | LOL | 12:50 |
| LaserJock | wahooo, chuck the kernel cause there are too many distros ;-) | 12:50 |
| Fujitsu | Yeah, it was quite funny. | 12:51 |
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| jdmpike_ | are there mirrors for http://archive.ubuntu.com and http://security.ubuntu.com | 02:20 |
| jdmpike_ | I am not able to pull from them - my downloads timeout | 02:20 |
| Hawkwind | Yes | 02:21 |
| Hawkwind | Look on the wiki and search for 'Mirrors' | 02:21 |
| Fujitsu | Not of security. | 02:22 |
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| zul | oh microsoft how i spit in your face | 03:11 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 04:18 |
| bmonty | hi bddebian | 04:18 |
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| bddebian | Hi bmonty, Kyral_Laptop | 04:18 |
| bddebian | Uhm Kyral_Laptop? :) | 04:18 |
| bddebian | Heya Gloubiboulga | 04:18 |
| Kyral_Laptop | I'm a litttle tipsy | 04:18 |
| bddebian | Ah :-) | 04:18 |
| bmonty | good night everyone | 04:18 |
| Kyral_Laptop | hic | 04:18 |
| bmonty | :) | 04:18 |
| zul | yeah irc and drinking is a good mix | 04:19 |
| Kyral_Laptop | yeeeapapapapa | 04:19 |
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| Gloubiboulga | hello MOTU world | 04:19 |
| Gloubiboulga | hi bddebian :) | 04:19 |
| bddebian | Gnight bmonty_away | 04:19 |
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| LaserJock | hiya bddebian | 04:40 |
| bddebian | Hi LaserJock | 04:40 |
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| [cro] smiley | hi all | 04:44 |
| bddebian | Hello [cro] smiley | 04:46 |
| [cro] smiley | i have an application that i would like to be included in ubuntu repository if its possible. Here is project page: http://timesaver.sourceforge.net and deb package is here: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=170378&package_id=194451 | 04:46 |
| LaserJock | [cro] smiley: do you know if there is a source package for that .deb? a .deb alone isn't helpful for us | 04:47 |
| [cro] smiley | yes | 04:48 |
| [cro] smiley | there is at the same adress | 04:48 |
| [cro] smiley | both deb and tar.gz with sources | 04:48 |
| LaserJock | well, the the tar.gz isn't the source package | 04:49 |
| LaserJock | that's the source tarball which is a bit different | 04:49 |
| [cro] smiley | LaserJock, ok what do i need then? | 04:49 |
| [cro] smiley | i made deb using just that tarball | 04:49 |
| [cro] smiley | at least that is what i read in a thread about making debs for ubuntu at ubuntuforums.org | 04:50 |
| [cro] smiley | this thread: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51003 | 04:50 |
| LaserJock | use dpkg-buildpackage -S -rfakeroot | 04:52 |
| [cro] smiley | i did... | 04:52 |
| LaserJock | instead of dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot | 04:52 |
| [cro] smiley | atually i think i used sudo | 04:52 |
| LaserJock | you don't want to do that | 04:53 |
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| [cro] smiley | ok | 04:53 |
| LaserJock | [cro] smiley: the source package is the .diff.gz .dsc and .orig.tar.gz files | 04:53 |
| [cro] smiley | LaserJock, so i just need to rename it or what? | 04:54 |
| LaserJock | do you hve those files? | 04:54 |
| [cro] smiley | LaserJock, i mead its mine project at least i know its sources or? :) | 04:54 |
| [cro] smiley | *mean | 04:54 |
| LaserJock | source package != source tarball | 04:55 |
| [cro] smiley | what is the difference except name, that would help me a bit you know.... | 04:55 |
| LaserJock | well the source package | 04:56 |
| LaserJock | is 3 files | 04:56 |
| LaserJock | the .diff.gz (which holds the diff to the tarball) | 04:56 |
| LaserJock | the .dsc which is the description file | 04:56 |
| LaserJock | and the .orig.tar.gz which is the source tarball | 04:57 |
| [cro] smiley | and way to make source package would be ? | 04:57 |
| LaserJock | dpkg-buildpackage | 04:58 |
| micahcowan | [cro] smiley, does your original tarball have a debian/ directory in it, or did you add it after, just to make a .deb (which is better)? | 04:58 |
| LaserJock | you should have one | 04:58 |
| [cro] smiley | oh now i know, sorry.... | 04:58 |
| [cro] smiley | i have those | 04:58 |
| [cro] smiley | do you need dsc.asc? | 05:00 |
| LaserJock | no | 05:01 |
| LaserJock | that file usually exists if you didn't sign the .dsc file | 05:02 |
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| [cro] smiley | so i put those 3 files in a package right? | 05:02 |
| Hobbsee | hi all | 05:03 |
| micahcowan | Hi Hobbsee. :-) | 05:03 |
| LaserJock | [cro] smiley: no | 05:03 |
| Kyral_Laptop | Hobbsee *drunken swagger* | 05:03 |
| [cro] smiley | LaserJock, ok | 05:03 |
| micahcowan | [cro] smiley, nope, those 3 files /are/ the "source package" | 05:03 |
| Hobbsee | hi micahcowan, Kyral_Laptop | 05:03 |
| Hobbsee | Kyral_Laptop: heh. scary | 05:03 |
| [cro] smiley | micahcowan, so i upload that separattely | 05:04 |
| [cro] smiley | *them | 05:04 |
| micahcowan | I think you get someone (LaserJock?) to upload/sponsor for you? | 05:04 |
| LaserJock | [cro] smiley: well, if want to get the package reviewed you upload to our REVU server with dput | 05:05 |
| bddebian | Heya Hobbsee | 05:05 |
| Hobbsee | hi bddebian | 05:05 |
| LaserJock | [cro] smiley: take a look at wiki.ubuntu.com/REVU | 05:05 |
| Hobbsee | hi LaserJock | 05:05 |
| LaserJock | hi Hobbsee | 05:05 |
| LaserJock | how's it going? | 05:05 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: good, i dont think i took in a word of that electronics lecture :P | 05:06 |
| === Hobbsee had better make sure she doesnt get arrested today. | ||
| Hobbsee | s/arrested/pulled over, etc/ | 05:06 |
| micahcowan | Shouldn't Kyral_Laptop be the one worrying? :) | 05:06 |
| Kyral_Laptop | huh? | 05:07 |
| micahcowan | what with all the swaggering... | 05:07 |
| Kyral_Laptop | wha? | 05:07 |
| Kyral_Laptop | Oh I'm faking | 05:07 |
| bddebian | Bah, I'm going to bed. Gnight folks | 05:07 |
| [cro] smiley | LaserJock, i looked at REVU and now i have created a gpg key and uploaded it to keyserver.ubuntu.com | 05:24 |
| [cro] smiley | , what do i do next? | 05:24 |
| [cro] smiley | sorry for asking but i seem to lost the guidelines... | 05:24 |
| LaserJock | [cro] smiley: do you have a Launchpad account? | 05:26 |
| [cro] smiley | LaserJock, yes | 05:27 |
| LaserJock | [cro] smiley: add you gpg key to your launchpad page | 05:27 |
| [cro] smiley | ok, i got it now... | 05:29 |
| LaserJock | [cro] smiley: ok, now join the ubuntu-universe-contributors Launchpad team | 05:30 |
| LaserJock | https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-universe-contributors/+join | 05:30 |
| [cro] smiley | LaserJock, no i said i understand, ill be done in a minute ;) | 05:30 |
| LaserJock | oh, sorry | 05:31 |
| [cro] smiley | np | 05:31 |
| [cro] smiley | just done adding gpg key to launchpad, this one of most exciting things ever done :) | 05:40 |
| [cro] smiley | joined the team :) | 05:40 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: you don't have revu admin access, do you? | 05:42 |
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| [cro] smiley | LaserJock, i don't think i have | 05:43 |
| [cro] smiley | oh sorry not for me | 05:43 |
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| ajmitch | once the keyring syncs you'll be able to upload to REVU | 05:44 |
| ajmitch | please make sure you upload source-only packages, always with the orig.tar.gz | 05:44 |
| [cro] smiley | ajmitch, ok thank you very much | 05:44 |
| [cro] smiley | ajmitch, no problem | 05:44 |
| ajmitch | after your first successful upload, you'll be able to retrieve the password on REVU, which is just used for logging in to comment on your uploads | 05:45 |
| LaserJock | ajmitch: no I don't :-0 | 05:45 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: keyring sync is almost done anyway | 05:45 |
| ajmitch | it just breaks badly if 2 people do it at once | 05:45 |
| [cro] smiley | ajmitch, so i upload does 3 files mentioned above, right? | 05:46 |
| [cro] smiley | just to check | 05:46 |
| ajmitch | [cro] smiley: dput revu package_version_source.changes | 05:47 |
| ajmitch | dput will take care of uploading what it needs | 05:47 |
| [cro] smiley | oh, ok then | 05:47 |
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| caleb- | Hello. Is there any official channel for backporting? I want to ask backporting issue about edgy to dapper. | 05:52 |
| crimsun | generally, this one. | 05:52 |
| caleb- | crimsun: GTK2 of edgy has migrated to 2.10.0, and /usr/lib/gtk2.0/2.4.0 changed to /usr/lib/gtk2.0/2.10.0. All GTK immodules will be in 2.10.0/immodules, which will not be found in dapper. | 05:54 |
| caleb- | crimsun: I am maintainer of gcin, and gcin was approved to be backported. I wonder if I must do something for this...maybe add a 2.4.0 link point to 2.10.0? | 05:55 |
| [cro] smiley | ajmitch, i have a problem i cant find *_source.changes, i only have: diff.gz, dsc, orig.tar.gz and deb | 06:03 |
| ajmitch | how did you build the package? | 06:03 |
| ajmitch | you should use debuild -S -sa, or dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa | 06:03 |
| [cro] smiley | i try but says: gpg: [stdin] : clearsign failed: secret key not available | 06:04 |
| crimsun | caleb-: the backport from edgy will be built against dapper+dapper-security+dapper-updates. Is there any reason you'd need to adjust anything for GTK+ 2.8.x? | 06:04 |
| [cro] smiley | WARNING: unsafe ownership on configuration file `/home/smiley/.gnupg/gpg.conf' | 06:04 |
| [cro] smiley | should i changa ownership or what? | 06:05 |
| [cro] smiley | *change | 06:05 |
| ajmitch | does the name & email address you put in debian/changelog match that on your key? | 06:06 |
| [cro] smiley | yep | 06:06 |
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| ajmitch | try with debuild -S -sa -kD7984D11 | 06:07 |
| [cro] smiley | cp: cannot remove `config.sub': Permission denied | 06:10 |
| ajmitch | something for you to fix - it was probably built as root at some point | 06:10 |
| LaserJock | do you create the source package with sudo | 06:10 |
| LaserJock | s/do/did/ | 06:10 |
| [cro] smiley | all fixed | 06:12 |
| ajmitch | great | 06:12 |
| [cro] smiley | _source.changes and _source.build appeared | 06:12 |
| caleb- | crimsun: GTK immodules needs /usr/sbin/update-gtk-immodules to update immodule data. If immodules was put in 2.10.0 directory, dapper's update-gtk-immodules will not find them. | 06:12 |
| ajmitch | iirc, revu is in the default dput configuration, so you should be able to just use dput revu package_version_source.changes | 06:13 |
| ajmitch | whatever the name & version may be :) | 06:13 |
| caleb- | crimsun: I have disscussed with seb128(maintainer of gtk2), but he said that is backport-team's problem. | 06:13 |
| [cro] smiley | ajmitch, uploading .... :) | 06:14 |
| caleb- | crimsun: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gtk+2.0/+bug/54956 | 06:14 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 54956 in gtk+2.0 "Wrong path name 2.10.0, should be 2.4.0 for back-compatibility" [Untriaged,Rejected] | 06:14 |
| [cro] smiley | Successfully uploaded packages. | 06:15 |
| [cro] smiley | :) | 06:15 |
| [cro] smiley | says not running dinstall is this ok? | 06:15 |
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| [cro] smiley | name is tsaver_0.4-0ubuntu1 | 06:16 |
| ajmitch | ah yes, it's there | 06:16 |
| [cro] smiley | yipeeee | 06:16 |
| ajmitch | it's a rather large .diff | 06:16 |
| caleb- | crimsun: I can add a link in gcin, then gtk2 needs not change. I just wonder if I have to upload a new gcin, or just let backport team to work? | 06:16 |
| [cro] smiley | ls | 06:16 |
| ajmitch | [cro] smiley: I suggest you target edgy rather than breezy | 06:17 |
| ajmitch | also remove the .ex files in debian/ | 06:17 |
| crimsun | caleb-: if it's backported, why are you concerned about GTK+ 2.10? | 06:17 |
| ajmitch | since they are examples only | 06:17 |
| [cro] smiley | ok | 06:18 |
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| ajmitch | that's the majority of the .diff.gz | 06:18 |
| [cro] smiley | ok | 06:18 |
| ajmitch | also, clean up any unused #dh_* commands in debian/rules | 06:18 |
| caleb- | crimsun: It is approved for backport, but not backported yet. A CJK member told me that backport was done by machine automatically. | 06:18 |
| ajmitch | [cro] smiley: debian/cron.d.ex will need renamed to debian/cron.d to be used | 06:19 |
| caleb- | crimsun: If that is true, then machine-made-backport will not work in dapper. It needs a 2.4.0 link to 2.10.0. | 06:19 |
| crimsun | caleb-: the source packages are uploaded manually and built by buildds, yes. | 06:19 |
| [cro] smiley | ok, im writing all down | 06:20 |
| caleb- | crimsun: OK. So I have to upload a new release for this issue. Thank you. :-) | 06:20 |
| ajmitch | [cro] smiley: sorry, I should put this in comments on REVU :) | 06:20 |
| crimsun | caleb-: is this link a problem in dapper-updates's GTK+ 2.8.20? | 06:20 |
| [cro] smiley | ajmitch, well its ok | 06:20 |
| caleb- | crimsun: No. Debian / Ubuntu GTK 2.4 to 2.8 all uses 2.4.0 for compatibility. | 06:21 |
| ajmitch | [cro] smiley: I've put the comments from irc on revu | 06:21 |
| crimsun | caleb-: so why are you concerned about 2.10? | 06:21 |
| caleb- | crimsun: 2.10 in edgy broke this back-compatibility. It uses 2.10.0 instead 2.4.0. | 06:22 |
| crimsun | caleb-: Dapper doesn't have 2.10, therefore gcin will not be compiled against 2.10 | 06:22 |
| [cro] smiley | ajmitch, can you check dependencies, it depends on wxwidgets but i'm not shure if i did list them right... | 06:22 |
| ajmitch | [cro] smiley: dpkg-gencontrol: warning: can't parse dependency binu tils (>= 2.16.1-2ubuntu6 ) | 06:23 |
| crimsun | caleb-: your newer version of gcin will be compiled against GTK+ 2.8.20 | 06:23 |
| ajmitch | looks to be an added space there | 06:23 |
| caleb- | crimsun: gcin can work ok with gtk 2.4 to 2.10. That build-limitation is added by GTK2's maintainer. | 06:23 |
| ajmitch | [cro] smiley: unless you really need things to be specific versions, you don't need to build-depend on anything in build-essential | 06:23 |
| caleb- | crimsun: It is ok. gcin works smoothly in hoary / breezy / dapper / edgy. | 06:24 |
| ajmitch | [cro] smiley: also the binary package should not need automake & autoconf as dependencies - at most they should be build-depends | 06:24 |
| ajmitch | most of the Depends: line is not needed | 06:24 |
| [cro] smiley | ajmitch, ok, if you can tell me what should i leave | 06:25 |
| [cro] smiley | ok | 06:25 |
| ajmitch | ${shlibs:Depends} | 06:25 |
| [cro] smiley | when do i execute that? | 06:26 |
| ajmitch | in Depends: | 06:26 |
| [cro] smiley | ah ok | 06:26 |
| ajmitch | you won't need all those wx packages in Build-Depends | 06:27 |
| [cro] smiley | where then | 06:27 |
| ajmitch | probably just libwxgtk2.6-dev | 06:27 |
| [cro] smiley | ok | 06:28 |
| [cro] smiley | ajmitch, can you comment all this please just to be shure | 06:30 |
| ajmitch | done | 06:30 |
| [cro] smiley | thx | 06:30 |
| ajmitch | though it's 3 separate comments on revu now :) | 06:31 |
| [cro] smiley | i see, will be ok | 06:31 |
| [cro] smiley | ajmitch, so is that all, did you try to install? | 06:39 |
| ajmitch | no, that was just from 2 minutes of looking at the diff | 06:40 |
| ajmitch | and the build log - it failed to build due to the space in binutils, which doesn't need to be there | 06:40 |
| [cro] smiley | so i have to fix that to continue checking or? | 06:42 |
| ajmitch | yep | 06:43 |
| ajmitch | someone else will hopefully pick up & do reviewing | 06:43 |
| [cro] smiley | ok, and who finally ads it to repos if all goes well? | 06:44 |
| ajmitch | one of the MOTUs | 06:44 |
| ajmitch | once it gets advocated by 2 MOTUs | 06:44 |
| [cro] smiley | i just wait | 06:44 |
| [cro] smiley | ? | 06:44 |
| ajmitch | yes, fix what you can, upload, and get comments | 06:45 |
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| [cro] smiley | nice, well thanx for all the help it really means a lot | 06:45 |
| caleb- | [cro] smiley: Contents in README.Debian looks a bit poor. If you have no important messages specific for Debian / Ubuntu users, you may remove that file. | 06:48 |
| caleb- | [cro] smiley: Upload a modified and clean diff will make it enter into Ubuntu more easily. | 06:53 |
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| [cro] smiley | caleb-, i'm working on it | 06:55 |
| Lathiat_ | has anyone else noticed trouble with select copying and pasting in dapper | 06:58 |
| Lathiat_ | i often find my newlines disappearing | 06:58 |
| Lathiat_ | pasting from both firefox & terminals to both irssi & gaim | 06:59 |
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| [cro] smiley | caleb-, packages uploaded | 07:16 |
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| [cro] smiley | i have put tsaver new packages at revu that need to be reviewed | 07:19 |
| caleb- | [cro] smiley: It seems not updated yet. It may needs 5 minutes. | 07:21 |
| [cro] smiley | caleb-, ok it said: Successfully uploaded packages. | 07:22 |
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| caleb- | [cro] smiley: changelog should for edgy, and * Initial release. | 07:34 |
| caleb- | [cro] smiley: compat should be 5, not 4. | 07:34 |
| caleb- | [cro] smiley: dirs is not needed in most situation. | 07:34 |
| caleb- | [cro] smiley: Build-Depends should have debhelper, because your rules uses them. | 07:34 |
| caleb- | [cro] smiley: Standards-Version should newer. | 07:34 |
| caleb- | [cro] smiley: Long description includes short description. It is better have some | 07:34 |
| caleb- | [cro] smiley: linefeed in long description. | 07:34 |
| caleb- | [cro] smiley: manpage should be tsaver.1 or something. | 07:34 |
| caleb- | [cro] smiley: manpage.sgml.ex is not needed. | 07:34 |
| caleb- | [cro] smiley: You may use lintian or linda to check your new diff and debs. Use those commands in edgy. | 07:34 |
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| [cro] smiley | caleb-, what do you mean by: It is better have some linefeed in long description? | 07:41 |
| caleb- | [cro] smiley: Your long description in control is too lone for a 80x24 terminal. | 07:44 |
| [cro] smiley | oh i see | 07:44 |
| [cro] smiley | no problem | 07:44 |
| caleb- | [cro] smiley: It still have some tiny problems. But I think you may fix these first. | 07:46 |
| [cro] smiley | ok | 07:46 |
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| [cro] smiley | caleb-, is this ok: * ubuntu linux package for Edgy Eft | 07:48 |
| [cro] smiley | in changelog | 07:48 |
| crimsun | "Initial release." is fine | 07:49 |
| [cro] smiley | just that? | 07:49 |
| caleb- | [cro] smiley: tsaver (0.4-0ubuntu1) edgy; urgency=low | 07:49 |
| crimsun | it'll be pretty obvious that it's for ubuntu edgy | 07:49 |
| [cro] smiley | and why does it have to be edgy if i may ask? | 07:50 |
| crimsun | because edgy is the current dev branch. | 07:50 |
| [cro] smiley | remove dirs? | 07:51 |
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| crimsun | if you don't use it, remove it | 07:51 |
| [cro] smiley | and what should i do about Standards-Version | 07:51 |
| crimsun | (I haven't looked at it on REVU) | 07:51 |
| crimsun | it should be the latest according to Policy | 07:52 |
| crimsun | of course you need to verify first that it meets Policy | 07:52 |
| [cro] smiley | hm, that doesn't tells me much | 07:52 |
| crimsun | apt-cache policy debian-policy | 07:53 |
| crimsun | [and of course, http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ ] | 07:54 |
| caleb- | [cro] smiley: Standards-Version is not that important. You may fix it later. | 07:56 |
| caleb- | [cro] smiley: check your debs and diff with lintian. It helps very much. | 07:56 |
| [cro] smiley | caleb-, ok | 07:56 |
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| [cro] smiley | lintian say only: W: tsaver source: out-of-date-standards-version 3.6.1 | 07:59 |
| [cro] smiley | well i think i fixed all mentioned above, I'm putting it up for third time... | 08:00 |
| crimsun | upid? | 08:01 |
| [cro] smiley | crimsun, sorry what? | 08:02 |
| crimsun | the URL. | 08:02 |
| [cro] smiley | what url | 08:02 |
| ajmitch | crimsun: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2852 | 08:03 |
| ajmitch | ah, there's been another one | 08:03 |
| ajmitch | 2853 then | 08:03 |
| crimsun | thanks, ajmitch | 08:03 |
| [cro] smiley | oh, sorry i know now | 08:03 |
| [cro] smiley | still uploading... | 08:04 |
| [cro] smiley | it is there now | 08:05 |
| caleb- | [cro] smiley: Your tarball has no its own manpage? Those files in diff.gz should put in debian/, unless you want to patch source. | 08:06 |
| caleb- | [cro] smiley: for example, tsaver.1 should be put in debian/tsaver.1 | 08:07 |
| [cro] smiley | no problem | 08:07 |
| Toadstool | 'morning | 08:09 |
| crimsun | Section: Utilities | 08:10 |
| crimsun | Description: TimeSaver is simple time management application. | 08:10 |
| crimsun | debian/copyright:Copyright needs date{,s} | 08:12 |
| crimsun | you generally should include the GPL preamble | 08:12 |
| [cro] smiley | ok, but what about section and descriptio? | 08:13 |
| crimsun | tsaver.1: +.TH TSAVER SECTION "August 1, 2006" | 08:13 |
| crimsun | note template SECTION | 08:13 |
| crimsun | Section: utils | 08:15 |
| crimsun | Description: a simple time management application | 08:16 |
| [cro] smiley | ok | 08:16 |
| crimsun | or just drop the article completely | 08:16 |
| crimsun | Description: simple time management application | 08:16 |
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| ajmitch | it should generally be read as 'package is a'... | 08:17 |
| ajmitch | so yes, drop the article | 08:17 |
| [cro] smiley | where does .TH TSAVER SECTION "August 1, 2006" go? | 08:17 |
| [cro] smiley | what line in tsaver.1 | 08:18 |
| caleb- | [cro] smiley: depend_script is useless I think. | 08:18 |
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| [cro] smiley | caleb-, yes you are right i used it for filling the dependencies in control | 08:19 |
| ajmitch | [cro] smiley: that's what ${shlibs:Depends} is for | 08:20 |
| crimsun | [cro] smiley: the line placement is fine in the man page. You just left in the template SECTION without changing it. | 08:20 |
| [cro] smiley | yes, i didn't know, i was following ubuntuforums.org example as i said before | 08:20 |
| caleb- | [cro] smiley: make install creates essential directories, so debian/dirs is not needed. | 08:23 |
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| [cro] smiley | ok | 08:23 |
| caleb- | [cro] smiley: or you will have a useless /usr/sbin directory in your deb | 08:23 |
| caleb- | [cro] smiley: Most problems are resolved. Others needs MOTU to review. | 08:24 |
| [cro] smiley | caleb-, so is it possible to install it? | 08:24 |
| [cro] smiley | crimsun, so can i replace SECTION with 1 | 08:25 |
| caleb- | [cro] smiley: You have not tried it? I am under win32 in work. I can not build it now... | 08:25 |
| [cro] smiley | caleb-, well not this modifed version | 08:25 |
| [cro] smiley | i tried one i made myself only | 08:25 |
| === caleb- My country is slave of Micro$oft. :( | ||
| carthik | caleb-, but you are free | 08:26 |
| carthik | my University has sold out too | 08:26 |
| crimsun | [cro] smiley: sure | 08:26 |
| carthik | and all the sysadmins would lose jobs if they moved off of Microsoft | 08:27 |
| [cro] smiley | crimsun, do i also replace the NAME? | 08:28 |
| [cro] smiley | crimsun, in .SH NAME | 08:28 |
| caleb- | [cro] smiley: Your are the upstream author? If your put the manpage in next release, then you do not have it in *.diff.hz :) | 08:30 |
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| [cro] smiley | caleb-, yes i'm the author, and what should i do about manpage, i don't understand? | 08:32 |
| [cro] smiley | what should i do about copyright? | 08:35 |
| caleb- | [cro] smiley: debian / ubuntu do not change upstream tarball unless they have non-free data. | 08:35 |
| [cro] smiley | where do i need a date? | 08:36 |
| caleb- | [cro] smiley: http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/gcin-0606170225/gcin-1.2.0/debian/copyright # a example of copyright file | 08:36 |
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| caleb- | [cro] smiley: It is debian's traditional style. It is not the best version, though. | 08:38 |
| [cro] smiley | is my licence text ok, or do i have to copy /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL | 08:41 |
| caleb- | [cro] smiley: list 3 or 4 paragraph in copyright, and leave a message point to /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL | 08:42 |
| caleb- | [cro] smiley: You may leave this issue unfixed. Wait MOTU to comment. | 08:43 |
| [cro] smiley | ok | 08:44 |
| caleb- | [cro] smiley: make sure all files in diff.gz is under debian/, and make sure lintian and linda are happy. Then wait for MOTUs. :-) | 08:45 |
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| [cro] smiley | fourth upload on the way... | 08:49 |
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| [cro] smiley | linda and lintian are now complaining, please help: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2854 | 08:53 |
| [cro] smiley | sorry: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2855 | 08:54 |
| caleb- | [cro] smiley: It is just about debhelper's version. | 08:55 |
| [cro] smiley | caleb-, i don't think so | 08:56 |
| caleb- | [cro] smiley: Grossly it looks fine now. | 08:56 |
| [cro] smiley | http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/tsaver-0608080245/lintian | 08:56 |
| [cro] smiley | or am i looking at the wrong one | 08:56 |
| caleb- | [cro] smiley: edgy is not a traditional debian release name. It is normal for you. | 08:57 |
| caleb- | [cro] smiley: Build a new deb using current diff file, and check deb by lintian / linda. | 08:57 |
| caleb- | [cro] smiley: And a bad news...I think edgy is freeze for upstream now. Your package may wait for edgy+1 to enter ubuntu. | 08:58 |
| caleb- | [cro] smiley: Unless some core team member want to upload the package for you. | 08:59 |
| [cro] smiley | and when is edgy+1 | 08:59 |
| crimsun | eh, new for universe is fine | 08:59 |
| caleb- | [cro] smiley: April 2007 I think. | 08:59 |
| [cro] smiley | not soon | 08:59 |
| crimsun | this doesn't at all need to go into main | 08:59 |
| ajmitch | universe is not frozen | 08:59 |
| caleb- | Oh. sorry. :P | 08:59 |
| ajmitch | new apps are accepted until late september, iirc | 08:59 |
| ajmitch | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule | 09:00 |
| ajmitch | Universe freezes sept 28th | 09:00 |
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| === caleb- is stupid. :P | ||
| [cro] smiley | can i change debian/compat back to 4, i think this is a problem? | 09:01 |
| ajmitch | no, you probably just heard about main's UVF | 09:01 |
| ajmitch | hey dholbach | 09:01 |
| ajmitch | [cro] smiley: having it at 5 is no problem if you build-depend on debhelper (>= 5.0.0) | 09:02 |
| dholbach | good morning | 09:02 |
| dholbach | ajmitch: hey andrew | 09:02 |
| [cro] smiley | ajmitch, sounds like someone forgot to mention that :) | 09:02 |
| [cro] smiley | and is debhelper >= 5.0.0 available at all? | 09:03 |
| dholbach | 5.0.37.3ubuntu1 | 09:04 |
| dholbach | that's what we have in ubuntu atm | 09:04 |
| dholbach | (edgy) | 09:04 |
| [cro] smiley | thx | 09:04 |
| [cro] smiley | i hope this is the last upload, must get some sleep | 09:06 |
| [cro] smiley | seems ok now, now is all to MOTUs, and Im going to sleep | 09:12 |
| [cro] smiley | night guys and thanks for all the fish ;) | 09:13 |
| ajmitch | night [cro] smiley | 09:18 |
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| Hobbsee | hi all | 09:38 |
| ajmitch | hello Hobbsee | 09:38 |
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| TheMuso | Hey Hobbsee | 10:14 |
| Hobbsee | hi TheMuso :) | 10:14 |
| ajmitch | hi TheMuso | 10:14 |
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| TheMuso | Hey ajmitch. | 10:15 |
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| kagou | hi | 11:22 |
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| cbx33 | hi guys | 12:07 |
| cbx33 | when installing phpmyadmin, should I just be able to browse to localhost/phpmyadmin | 12:08 |
| cbx33 | or do I need to set stuff up manually | 12:08 |
| TheMuso | cbx33: #ubuntu | 12:19 |
| cbx33 | TheMuso: fixed it now | 12:24 |
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| phanatic | hello | 12:27 |
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| TheMuso | Does one have to subscribe a specific MOTU related team to get a sync request confirmation examined? | 01:32 |
| ajmitch | motureviewers *may* work | 01:32 |
| Hobbsee | TheMuso: i'm assuming it's the universe team that you used before. | 01:33 |
| Hobbsee | or just poke someone here, i guess | 01:33 |
| ajmitch | if MOTUs are willing to check that list for syncs pending | 01:33 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: might be offering :P | 01:33 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee is a MOTU | 01:33 |
| TheMuso | I know that. | 01:33 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee can do all | 01:33 |
| ajmitch | no need to subscribe anything :) | 01:33 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: i just uploaded one of his bits. it's your turn nwo :P | 01:33 |
| ajmitch | I'm busy updating stuff in main | 01:34 |
| TheMuso | heh | 01:34 |
| TheMuso | Tis fine guys. I shan't depend on you for too much longer. | 01:34 |
| ajmitch | swearing at upstream, etc | 01:34 |
| TheMuso | I intend to go for MOTU as soon as I can get my key signed by someone who is part of a strong set. | 01:34 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: haha | 01:34 |
| Hobbsee | TheMuso: stevenk can sign it, i expect | 01:34 |
| StevenK | I so can't. | 01:35 |
| TheMuso | heh | 01:35 |
| Hobbsee | StevenK: why not? ajmitch signed yours? | 01:35 |
| zul | ajmitch is not strong enough physically oh wait...you are talking keys, | 01:35 |
| === StevenK denies everything. | ||
| ajmitch | watch it zul | 01:35 |
| zul | hehe.. | 01:35 |
| zul | hi ajmitch | 01:36 |
| ajmitch | hello | 01:36 |
| StevenK | TheMuso: If you're free during the day, you can bug me at work and we can lunch together. | 01:36 |
| TheMuso | StevenK: I'll think about it. There is one problem however, one which I had an interesting time resolving when I had to get my key signed to look a bit better when signing the coc. | 01:36 |
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| StevenK | TheMuso: Verifying the other party | 01:37 |
| TheMuso | Yup. | 01:37 |
| StevenK | Bart uses someone sighted who he trusts. | 01:38 |
| Hobbsee | ah yes, that's a point. | 01:38 |
| TheMuso | Thats what I had to do. | 01:38 |
| StevenK | TheMuso: Dealing with blind people teaches you just how much people depend on sight. | 01:38 |
| TheMuso | If I ever get around to setting up a blog, it is something that I will certainly blog about. | 01:38 |
| TheMuso | I'll bet. | 01:39 |
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| neutrinomass | Generally speaking, is it a rule that no two patches can change the same function ? Because if they do, and you edit the first patch, then you might have to edit the second patch as well which might break something else etc. etc. | 02:35 |
| siretart | neutrinomass: now you see why some ppl prefer a VCS over a patch system | 02:41 |
| Hobbsee | hi siretart | 02:41 |
| neutrinomass | siretart: True ... | 02:41 |
| neutrinomass | And since we're at it, should bugs be filed against packages with unmet deps or will this be sorted automatically before release ? | 02:43 |
| siretart | huhu Hobbsee! | 02:43 |
| Hobbsee | neutrinomass: they usually have a script for that. its' quicker to just fix it though, and get someone to upload it :) | 02:43 |
| siretart | neutrinomass: I think bugs should be filed and tagged appropriately, so we can batch process them | 02:43 |
| neutrinomass | OK OK, I'll file one ...(Hobbsee I already told you that I can't really fix stuff yet :P ) | 02:44 |
| Hobbsee | neutrinomass: you can learn to :P | 02:44 |
| Hobbsee | neutrinomass: what package, and what's the fixed build dep? | 02:44 |
| neutrinomass | bug 55666 | 02:47 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 55666 in moodss "[UNMETDEPS] moodss has unmet dependencies" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/55666 | 02:47 |
| phanatic | cool bugno :) | 02:47 |
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| neutrinomass | Hobbsee: I just finished the patching tute, searching the wiki for more reading material | 02:48 |
| siretart | do we already have a tag for unmet deps? | 02:48 |
| neutrinomass | siretart: I looked a little bit at the ones in the /topic but they had no tags ... | 02:48 |
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| ajmitch | siretart: tags seem to get added at random by users | 02:50 |
| siretart | neutrinomass: perhaps we should start compiling a list of proposed tags | 02:50 |
| siretart | huhu ajmitch | 02:50 |
| ajmitch | hi :) | 02:50 |
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| neutrinomass | siretart: There's some discussion on the -devel mailing list, isn't there ? | 02:50 |
| siretart | neutrinomass: yes, dholbach started it. I'm following that thread | 02:52 |
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| TheMuso | Night folks | 03:47 |
| ajmitch | night TheMuso | 03:48 |
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| neutrinomass | Um.. what does dh_desktop do exactly? Is it required whenever installing a .desktop (I looked at the man page but it didn't really elaborate ) | 03:49 |
| bddebian | Heya gang | 03:50 |
| StevenK | neutrinomass: It takes care of modifying the postinst/prerm | 03:51 |
| ajmitch | neutrinomass: it adds bits to the postinst/postrm to run update-desktop-database | 03:51 |
| ajmitch | which is of course undocumented | 03:52 |
| neutrinomass | ajmitch: Which means that it should be used whenever a .desktop is installed, right ? (Sorry, I'm very new to this ) | 03:52 |
| ajmitch | I think so | 03:52 |
| neutrinomass | Actually, by grepping through gftp's and gerbv's debian/ directory, none of them use it :-/ | 03:53 |
| neutrinomass | And should the changelog be edited with a text editor or with dch ? (or does it make no difference? ) | 03:55 |
| Hobbsee | neutrinomass: it'd be in debian/rules | 03:56 |
| neutrinomass | Hobbsee: I figured, but it isn't :-/ | 03:56 |
| Hobbsee | neutrinomass: and dch (with -i, if you want to increment the changelog) effectively adds bits to the changelog, and opens it in your favorite text editor. | 03:56 |
| Hobbsee | neutrinomass: it's quicker to do dch | 03:56 |
| neutrinomass | Hobbsee: ok, thanks | 03:57 |
| Hobbsee | neutrinomass: ah. does the package happen to use cdbs? | 03:57 |
| neutrinomass | Hobbsee: Um... not sure - it's got no gnome.mk in it though | 03:59 |
| Hobbsee | neutrinomass: what do the first few lines of debian/rules say? | 03:59 |
| Hobbsee | does it have something about includes? | 03:59 |
| neutrinomass | Hobbsee: No, and there's no reference to cdbs in debian/control ... | 03:59 |
| Hobbsee | neutrinomass: ah right. how odd. | 04:00 |
| Hobbsee | neutrinomass: doesnt use cdbs then :P | 04:00 |
| === neutrinomass isn't exactly sure what cdbs is but figured it should be mentioned in control if it's used :P | ||
| === neutrinomass is still busy reading tutorials | ||
| Hobbsee | neutrinomass: you'd be right. it's an alternate to debhelper | 04:00 |
| Hobbsee | neutrinomass: anotehr build system | 04:00 |
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| neutrinomass | Ok, thanks. | 04:01 |
| tseng | get a room! | 04:01 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 04:01 |
| StevenK | tseng: I have one, thank you. | 04:01 |
| StevenK | Hobbsee will know what I'm talking about. | 04:01 |
| Hobbsee | !!!!! | 04:01 |
| ubotu | I know nothing about !!!! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu | 04:01 |
| Hobbsee | oh now i do | 04:01 |
| ajmitch | a certain 4 letter word, I presume | 04:01 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: yeah, that's the one | 04:01 |
| StevenK | Correct. | 04:02 |
| Hobbsee | i had to think about that for a while. | 04:02 |
| ajmitch | really? | 04:02 |
| tseng | not really a word | 04:02 |
| ajmitch | must be late for you :) | 04:02 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: heh | 04:02 |
| StevenK | ajmitch: Not as late as it is for you. | 04:02 |
| === Hobbsee shudders at the evil mention of the thing in her ear. | ||
| ajmitch | yes, but I'm trying to fix xen stuff | 04:03 |
| Hobbsee | evil...must...purge...all...evil...... | 04:03 |
| neutrinomass | According to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/NoDesktopFile though, if cdbs's gnome.mk is not used, dh_desktop must be called. :-/ | 04:03 |
| StevenK | Hobbsee: Heh, I'm sorry. | 04:03 |
| === Hobbsee goes off muttering about EVIL thigns. | ||
| Hobbsee | s/thigns/things/ | 04:03 |
| zul | heh ajmitch does my bidding now | 04:04 |
| ajmitch | yes master? | 04:04 |
| Hobbsee | zul: nice work. the mind control hats are working then :) | 04:04 |
| Hobbsee | oh, wait, that was a school joke. darn. | 04:04 |
| zul | Hobbsee: yes and when he does something wrong the hats have electrodes | 04:04 |
| Hobbsee | zul: hehe, very nice. | 04:04 |
| ajmitch | yay, pain1 | 04:04 |
| zul | ajmitch: it builds character | 04:05 |
| ajmitch | and it's so much fun | 04:05 |
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| neutrinomass | bug 55356 - my first debiff - can somebody please take a look to see if it's OK ? | 04:50 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 55356 in specimen "specimen has no .desktop file" [Untriaged,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/55356 | 04:50 |
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| neutrinomass | Actually, it doens't look correct ( I didn't change all that), but I don't know what went wrong :( | 05:02 |
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| phanatic | pinging some reviewers: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2847 :) | 06:32 |
| Gloubiboulga | phanatic, I'll have a look in 1 or 2 minutes :) | 06:36 |
| phanatic | Gloubiboulga: thanks :) | 06:36 |
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| Gloubiboulga | phanatic, I'm not sure about the files in /usr/lib | 06:49 |
| phanatic | Gloubiboulga: do you think they would be more appropriate in /usr/share/uck maybe? | 06:50 |
| Gloubiboulga | phanatic, I think so | 06:50 |
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| phanatic | Gloubiboulga: okay. if there's nothing else, i'll update the package | 06:51 |
| Gloubiboulga | and the watch seems a little buggy ;) | 06:51 |
| phanatic | Gloubiboulga: maybe the guys changed the extension :) it has worked for 1.1, but 1.2 was just recently released (after the package was done btw) :) | 06:51 |
| Gloubiboulga | gauvain@tiber:/var/revu/revu1-incoming/uck-0608070510/uck-1.2$ uscan | 06:52 |
| Gloubiboulga | uck: remote site does not even have current version | 06:52 |
| Gloubiboulga | I guess you're right ;) | 06:53 |
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| phanatic | Gloubiboulga: indeed. .tgz was changed to .tar.gz - consistency rulez :) | 06:55 |
| Gloubiboulga | hehe | 06:55 |
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| phanatic | Gloubiboulga: just add that to your comment too, so i don't forget it ;) | 06:56 |
| Gloubiboulga | phanatic, ok :) | 06:56 |
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| phanatic | Gloubiboulga: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2858 | 07:14 |
| Gloubiboulga | /me looks | 07:16 |
| Gloubiboulga | phanatic, Cannot read file /usr/share/gfxboot/themes/Ubuntu/langlist, please check that you have package gfxboot-theme-ubuntu installed | 07:21 |
| Gloubiboulga | I have this error when I try to run the guy | 07:22 |
| phanatic | Gloubiboulga: gfxboot-theme-ubuntu should be a dependency... | 07:22 |
| Gloubiboulga | and I have gfxboot-theme-ubuntu installed | 07:22 |
| phanatic | oh, well | 07:22 |
| phanatic | upstream bug :) | 07:22 |
| phanatic | you running edgy i suppose... | 07:22 |
| Gloubiboulga | did you test on edgy? | 07:22 |
| Gloubiboulga | yes | 07:23 |
| phanatic | okay | 07:23 |
| phanatic | i'll tell the coders to dist-upgrade then :) | 07:23 |
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| Gloubiboulga | :) | 07:23 |
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| phanatic | Gloubiboulga: i'll come back to you when this is fixed :) | 07:26 |
| Gloubiboulga | phanatic, ok :) | 07:26 |
| Gloubiboulga | I'm off for tonight, I have a great book to read :) | 07:27 |
| phanatic | Gloubiboulga: thank for your time, enjoy then :) | 07:27 |
| Gloubiboulga | thanks phanatic, see you | 07:27 |
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| Whoopie_ | Hi, just saw that there are two sync requests for xosd, bug 55660 and 55678. Am I allowed to mark one of these as a duplicate? | 08:15 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 55660 in xosd "Sync request for xosd." [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/55660 | 08:15 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 55678 in Ubuntu "sync xosd 2.2.14-1.3 from sid (overriding changes OK)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/55678 | 08:15 |
| zul | sounds good to me | 08:16 |
| Whoopie_ | zul: as a dev could you do it perhaps? | 08:17 |
| zul | probably not right now since im at work | 08:17 |
| Whoopie_ | which one should I mark as a duplicate, the older or newer bug report? | 08:18 |
| zul | which has more information? | 08:18 |
| imbrandon | is one ack'd by a motu ? | 08:18 |
| Whoopie_ | no | 08:19 |
| imbrandon | looking i would mark the first as a dupe and leave the one lucas filed | 08:20 |
| imbrandon | as lucas is a MOTU | 08:20 |
| lucas | oops | 08:20 |
| Whoopie_ | lucas: Hi! could you do it? | 08:20 |
| imbrandon | hehe or have lucas just ACK the first one and then mark his as a dupe ;) | 08:21 |
| imbrandon | either way the mans here now ;) | 08:21 |
| imbrandon | heh | 08:21 |
| lucas | imbrandon: done | 08:23 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 08:24 |
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| bddebian | hahaha, my karma is 588,000+ now.. Oh brother :-) | 08:33 |
| Toadstool | bddebian: wow, you rock! :) | 08:33 |
| Toadstool | hi everybody | 08:34 |
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| azeem | bddebian: get davyd to integrate that into his GNOME thingy | 08:34 |
| azeem | bddebian: http://davyd.livejournal.com/189538.html | 08:35 |
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| LaserJock | hmm, has anybody dist-upgraded from dapper to edgy recently? | 08:37 |
| zul | nope i took the plunge earlier | 08:39 |
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| bddebian | Heya Toadstool | 08:45 |
| bddebian | azeem: ? | 08:45 |
| bddebian | azeem: Oh, hehe | 08:46 |
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| imbrandon | LaserJock: i did about 1.5 days ago on my ppc lappy | 09:08 |
| imbrandon | this box though has been on edgy for a long time | 09:09 |
| LaserJock | k | 09:09 |
| imbrandon | problem ? | 09:09 |
| LaserJock | well, at first I was just going to do a dist-upgrade | 09:09 |
| LaserJock | but it wanted to do some funny things | 09:10 |
| imbrandon | i'll tell you now though that you will have to dpkg --configure -a and rerun dist-upgrade a few times | 09:10 |
| imbrandon | infact i had to remove oo.o and reinstall it once it was done | 09:10 |
| LaserJock | I'm using ugrade-manager now | 09:10 |
| imbrandon | atm its not a pretty process but you can get it done with no data loss | 09:10 |
| imbrandon | cool | 09:10 |
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| LaserJock | me too | 09:11 |
| LaserJock | I suppose | 09:11 |
| imbrandon | heh | 09:11 |
| LaserJock | I don't know that it would change much | 09:12 |
| LaserJock | I'd probably get an AMD64 and a macbook pro | 09:12 |
| LaserJock | and a new car | 09:12 |
| imbrandon | me either cept i could afford all my toys i want | 09:12 |
| imbrandon | yea heh | 09:12 |
| LaserJock | but other then that, I'm not sure | 09:12 |
| imbrandon | probbaly fund a few ( quite a few ) bounties lol | 09:12 |
| LaserJock | yeah, that would be cool | 09:13 |
| imbrandon | and a new computer lab and new car, but other than that yea pretty much the same | 09:13 |
| LaserJock | i'd have to fund the "One Science app to rule them all" bounty ;-) | 09:13 |
| imbrandon | heheh | 09:13 |
| imbrandon | scibuntu lol | 09:13 |
| LaserJock | heck yeah | 09:13 |
| LaserJock | imbrandon: what archive mirror do you use? | 09:14 |
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| imbrandon | i have a local mirror i sync with archive. once an hour | 09:14 |
| LaserJock | hmm archive seems almost dead | 09:14 |
| imbrandon | old 333 mhz sitting in the closet ;) | 09:14 |
| imbrandon | yea it runs about 30kb a sec for me most of the time , us. is a little faster but lags behind on updates sometimes | 09:15 |
| LaserJock | and us.archive is giving me ~60K which will not due for an upgrade to edgy | 09:15 |
| imbrandon | yea | 09:15 |
| imbrandon | you could use mine but outside my network you'll be lucky to get 40kb sec | 09:15 |
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| imbrandon | LaserJock: more than welcome to try it though ( i386 , ppc and source only though no amd64 mirror ) http://72.135.8.5/ubuntu | 09:17 |
| imbrandon | but like i said probbably wont get better than 35 - 40k outside my lan | 09:17 |
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| LaserJock | imbrandon: I'm getting ~ 1.4mps now from Portland :-0 | 09:22 |
| LaserJock | :-) rather | 09:23 |
| imbrandon | nice | 09:23 |
| imbrandon | LaserJock: you got a fileserver on your lan ? | 09:23 |
| LaserJock | I have no idea | 09:23 |
| LaserJock | I'm at the uni | 09:24 |
| imbrandon | if you have about 30gb on a file server i can help ya setup a local mirror ;) | 09:24 |
| imbrandon | ahhh | 09:24 |
| LaserJock | I should have a talk with the CS department | 09:24 |
| imbrandon | yea really | 09:24 |
| imbrandon | they would probably go for it as many use ubuntu now | 09:24 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 09:24 |
| imbrandon | hell i would use it when i'm in town ;) | 09:24 |
| imbrandon | heh | 09:24 |
| imbrandon | i need to make another trip out that way soonish | 09:25 |
| LaserJock | yeah, and now that we have a lot more wireless on campus I could be sitting outside dist-upgrading away ;-) | 09:25 |
| imbrandon | hrm i wonder if one of the uni's arround here mirror | 09:25 |
| imbrandon | hehehe | 09:26 |
| LaserJock | but what am I talking about, they put us Physical Chemists in the basement where we get no windows :-) | 09:26 |
| LaserJock | sun light might hurt :-) | 09:27 |
| imbrandon | or anywhere arround here for that matter, /me go's to look at the LP mirror page | 09:27 |
| imbrandon | hahaha true | 09:27 |
| imbrandon | hrm where is anl.gov ? | 09:28 |
| LaserJock | I think that's close to Chicago | 09:28 |
| imbrandon | hrm thats not too far, closer than protland for me | 09:28 |
| imbrandon | but its +6 hours behind | 09:29 |
| imbrandon | guess its better than the minisota mirror a week behind | 09:29 |
| imbrandon | jes | 09:29 |
| LaserJock | I just need to dist-upgrade and then I'll probably switch back to archive.ubuntu.com | 09:29 |
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| === imbrandon is listening to "Gimme Back My Bullets" by Lynyrd Skynyrd [amaroK] | ||
| imbrandon | gah wrong key grrrr | 09:34 |
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| imbrandon | tseng: ?? | 09:35 |
| tseng | when I was 16 I thought stuff like that was pretty rad | 09:35 |
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| imbrandon | heh yea, i forgot i had even maped that key | 09:35 |
| imbrandon | to my windows key | 09:36 |
| [cro] smiley | hi all | 09:39 |
| imbrandon | hello | 09:39 |
| [cro] smiley | i would like some of the motu to check this: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2856 ,thank you. | 09:40 |
| [cro] smiley | *like to invite :) | 09:40 |
| crimsun | that's you, imbrandon. | 09:41 |
| imbrandon | hehe yea i'm looking | 09:41 |
| imbrandon | moins crimsun | 09:41 |
| bddebian | Heya crimsun, imbrandon | 09:42 |
| imbrandon | heya bddebian | 09:42 |
| crimsun | hi. | 09:42 |
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| imbrandon | only thing i see right off without knowing much about the pkg ( and not real exp revuing them ) is the standards version is a tad old | 09:45 |
| imbrandon | ( for edgy ) | 09:45 |
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| imbrandon | [cro] smiley: ^^ | 09:45 |
| crimsun | it should be 3.7.2 if you created it from scratch and followed Policy. | 09:45 |
| [cro] smiley | i was told to leave that | 09:46 |
| [cro] smiley | anyone wants to help me make that 3.7.2? | 09:47 |
| crimsun | um, change the numbers | 09:47 |
| [cro] smiley | hmm, only that? :) | 09:47 |
| [cro] smiley | sounds too simple | 09:48 |
| crimsun | no, certainly not. Did you check Policy to see if your package meets all its guidelines? | 09:48 |
| [cro] smiley | no | 09:48 |
| imbrandon | well you could loo at vi /usr/share/doc/debian-policy/upgrading-checklist.txt.gz and make sure | 09:48 |
| imbrandon | it meets the new guidelines | 09:48 |
| imbrandon | s/vi/<fav editor> | 09:49 |
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| imbrandon | other htan that though its looking ok to me , i dont see anything else that sticks out | 09:50 |
| imbrandon | possibly ad the preamble to the debian/copyright ( and tell what version of the GPL its under ) | 09:51 |
| crimsun | (yep, all mentioned yesterday) | 09:52 |
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| [cro] smiley | is this ok: | 09:56 |
| [cro] smiley | You are free to distribute this software under the terms of | 09:56 |
| [cro] smiley | the GNU General Public License (Version 2, June 1991). | 09:56 |
| [cro] smiley | On Debian systems, the complete text of the GNU General Public | 09:56 |
| [cro] smiley | License can be found in the file `/usr/share/common-licenses/GPL'. | 09:56 |
| [cro] smiley | sorry for paste | 09:56 |
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| [cro] smiley | first line goes tab also, and without "sorry for paste" ;) | 09:58 |
| imbrandon | [cro] smiley: have a look at http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/apt-mirror-0607130210/apt-mirror-0.4.4/debian/copyright | 09:59 |
| crimsun | note that for all new source packages for universe, you need to make sure the GPL Preamble is actually up-to-date. | 10:00 |
| [cro] smiley | ill just copy that one | 10:00 |
| imbrandon | It was downloaded from <http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/timesaver> <-- shouldent that be the project website also ? | 10:00 |
| imbrandon | crimsun: ^^ | 10:00 |
| crimsun | no, that URL is fine | 10:01 |
| [cro] smiley | well i thougt it should be direct link | 10:01 |
| imbrandon | okie | 10:01 |
| crimsun | as long as it is easily navigable to a tarball, it's sufficient | 10:01 |
| crimsun | note that "59 Temple Place - Suite 330, Boston, MA 02111-1307" is outdated | 10:02 |
| crimsun | See http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html for the current address | 10:02 |
| imbrandon | gah yea i need to fix that ( and tell upstream heh ) | 10:02 |
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| micahcowan | Someone want to draft an RFC for physical URNs? | 10:08 |
| micahcowan | physical address URNs | 10:08 |
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| Sp4rKy | hi | 10:08 |
| Sp4rKy | does anyone use chrpath ? | 10:09 |
| Sp4rKy | i've put | 10:09 |
| Sp4rKy | chrpath -d debian/tmp/usr/bin/audacious | 10:09 |
| Sp4rKy | chrpath -d debian/tmp/usr/bin/audtool | 10:09 |
| Sp4rKy | 10:09 | |
| Sp4rKy | in my debian/rules | 10:09 |
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| Sp4rKy | and chrpath in B-D | 10:10 |
| Sp4rKy | but i've always this messages : | 10:10 |
| Sp4rKy | W: audacious: binary-or-shlib-defines-rpath ./usr/bin/audacious /usr/local/lib | 10:10 |
| Sp4rKy | W: audacious: binary-or-shlib-defines-rpath ./usr/bin/audtool /usr/local/lib | 10:10 |
| [cro] smiley | is this ok from lintian: W: tsaver source: newer-standards-version 3.7.2 | 10:15 |
| imbrandon | thats fine , as is the unknown distro "edgy" | 10:15 |
| [cro] smiley | ok then im uploading... | 10:16 |
| imbrandon | revu hasent been updated yet to reflect the new changes | 10:16 |
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| Sp4rKy | does anyone could help me ? | 10:17 |
| imbrandon | Sp4rKy: i honestly have no idea | 10:17 |
| imbrandon | me personaly | 10:17 |
| crimsun | Sp4rKy: eh, that's not as clean as simply building without rpath | 10:18 |
| Sp4rKy | imbrandon, :( | 10:18 |
| crimsun | Sp4rKy: you probably need to patch libtool to get rid of -Wl,--rpath | 10:19 |
| Sp4rKy | crimsun, how can i do this ? | 10:19 |
| Sp4rKy | crimsun, yes, it's what i thought do , but Toadstool talked me about chrpath | 10:19 |
| Sp4rKy | so i've tried with it | 10:19 |
| crimsun | Sp4rKy: http://pastebin.ca/122618 | 10:20 |
| Sp4rKy | what's it ? | 10:21 |
| [cro] smiley | ok, you check agin now: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2862 | 10:21 |
| crimsun | ? | 10:21 |
| [cro] smiley | *again | 10:22 |
| Sp4rKy | crimsun, i don't understand what your script done | 10:22 |
| imbrandon | [cro] smiley: yea give me a few to grab another mt dew etc then i will | 10:22 |
| [cro] smiley | imbrandon, ok no hurry | 10:22 |
| crimsun | Sp4rKy: it's not my script, but it prevents libtool from using rpath | 10:22 |
| Sp4rKy | and how can i use it ? | 10:22 |
| crimsun | Sp4rKy: that way you don't need chrpath at all | 10:22 |
| Sp4rKy | k | 10:22 |
| crimsun | Sp4rKy: I do hope you read the title of the page... | 10:23 |
| Sp4rKy | oups | 10:24 |
| Sp4rKy | sorry | 10:24 |
| Sp4rKy | i add it in configure ? | 10:24 |
| crimsun | in that target, yes | 10:26 |
| Sp4rKy | k | 10:26 |
| Sp4rKy | trying | 10:26 |
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| Sp4rKy | pbuilding .... | 10:32 |
| imbrandon | [cro] smiley: you are upstream on this correct ? | 10:32 |
| [cro] smiley | imbrandon, ? | 10:32 |
| imbrandon | IE you made the program | 10:33 |
| [cro] smiley | yep | 10:33 |
| imbrandon | ok just makein sure, becosue it said copyright you | 10:33 |
| [cro] smiley | ok | 10:33 |
| imbrandon | ok looks good to me , i'll add a comment in a sec | 10:33 |
| [cro] smiley | thanks | 10:33 |
| [cro] smiley | how do i get those two things i need to have? :) | 10:34 |
| [cro] smiley | i mean to get tu repos | 10:34 |
| [cro] smiley | *to | 10:34 |
| imbrandon | well i'm going to leave on ( advocate ) then you need a second ( on the same upload IE crimsun ) then the second will upload it | 10:34 |
| imbrandon | *being a MOTU | 10:34 |
| [cro] smiley | ok | 10:36 |
| imbrandon | gah actualy i cant atm , crimsun do i need to be added to the MOTU reviewers or somesuch | 10:36 |
| imbrandon | [cro] smiley: give me a few, i havent got all the right access privs yet as i'm a new MOTU ( less than a week old heh ) but once i do i'll make sure i get it advocated | 10:37 |
| imbrandon | you have to poke for a second MOTU to revu now | 10:38 |
| imbrandon | once the second MOTU reviews it , it can be uploaded | 10:38 |
| [cro] smiley | ok | 10:38 |
| [cro] smiley | crimsun, are you here :) | 10:38 |
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| Sp4rKy | crimsun, doesn't works | 10:39 |
| [cro] smiley | crimsun, can you pls check: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2862 | 10:41 |
| imbrandon | ajmitch: ping , does the keyring need to be synced or something , i have the motureviewers emblem on LP | 10:41 |
| crimsun | very busy atm, please be patient. | 10:41 |
| imbrandon | [cro] smiley: yea give it time, might be a while ;P | 10:42 |
| [cro] smiley | ok, no hurry | 10:42 |
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| imbrandon | [cro] smiley: crimsun good about reading back in IRC for his mentions | 10:42 |
| [cro] smiley | imbrandon, acctually i don't see no change at detail view upid=2862, do i have to wait or? | 10:43 |
| imbrandon | [cro] smiley: i havent made a change yet as my keyright isnt updated | 10:44 |
| imbrandon | keyring* | 10:44 |
| imbrandon | [cro] smiley: i will once i get thta cleared up | 10:44 |
| [cro] smiley | ok | 10:45 |
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| imbrandon | wb LaserJock | 10:59 |
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| imbrandon | howd the upgrade do | 10:59 |
| LaserJock | ok, I think | 10:59 |
| LaserJock | it didn't like me not having grub :-) | 11:00 |
| LaserJock | I'm gonna reboot and see how it did, brb | 11:00 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 11:01 |
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| Kr4t05 | Has anyone else complained about bad sun-java5-bin and *-jre packages? | 11:38 |
| [cro] smiley | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2862 still needs motu reviesion | 11:41 |
| [cro] smiley | *revision | 11:41 |
| tseng | imbrandon: hello | 11:42 |
| crimsun | Kr4t05: "bad"? care to qualify? | 11:44 |
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| LaserJock | bah, my edgy dist-upgrade went bad :/ | 11:49 |
| crimsun | hah, you're known as "raging Ubuntu-aholic MOTU" | 11:50 |
| LaserJock | who? | 11:50 |
| LaserJock | you? | 11:50 |
| crimsun | no, you. | 11:50 |
| crimsun | UWN #9 prelim | 11:51 |
| mc44 | the first step is admitting you have a problem. | 11:51 |
| LaserJock | crimsun: hehe | 11:52 |
| LaserJock | ah stink, I did say Friday didn't I :/ | 11:54 |
| LaserJock | I was thinking Thursday | 11:54 |
| LaserJock | oh wait, that is Thursday local time | 11:55 |
| LaserJock | I HATE time zones | 11:55 |
| ajmitch | imbrandon: nothing to do with the keyring | 11:58 |
| crimsun | [cro] smiley: don't hardcode the path to the icon in src/TimeSaver.desktop | 11:58 |
| crimsun | [cro] smiley: additionally, is there a particular technical gotcha that forces you to not want the menu entry displayed in KDE menus? | 11:59 |
| [cro] smiley | crimsun, no there isn't | 12:00 |
| [cro] smiley | what should i do then? | 12:00 |
| crimsun | [cro] smiley: ok, then I suggest removing NotShowIn and dropping the absolute path to the icon (all in src/TimeSaver.desktop ) | 12:00 |
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| [cro] smiley | crimsun, sorry but i don't get it :/ | 12:01 |
| [cro] smiley | where do i drop absolute path, where is NotShowIn | 12:02 |
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| crimsun | [cro] smiley: in src/TimeSaver.desktop , remove the NotShowIn line, and use only "Icon=tsaver.xpm" | 12:02 |
| ajmitch | imbrandon: what email do you use on revu? | 12:02 |
| [cro] smiley | ah, ok no problem | 12:03 |
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| bmonty | hi MOTUs | 12:05 |
| [cro] smiley | crimsun, should i wait more suggestions or do i upload now? | 12:06 |
| imbrandon | ajmitch: imbrandon@kubuntu.org | 12:07 |
| imbrandon | heya bmonty | 12:07 |
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