[12:11] did any edgy automake packages get changed recently? [12:16] just the usual sync from Sid [12:19] crimsun: does 10 Jul sound right to you for the last upload? I built a package in a pbuilder the other day with no problems, and now it FTBFS because of a syntax error in a Makefile. [12:21] bmonty: of which source package? [12:22] crimsun: I figure it has to be autoconf or make [12:24] I know autoconf 2.60 has a few transition features; I'm not aware of any for automake. [12:24] automake1.x ^ [12:25] hmmm, looks like debian had a similar problem, but it magically went away [12:26] if by "magically" you mean packages had to be fixed ;) === Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@203.23.49.35] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:26] crimsun: no, I mean the package FTBFS, but then started building for some unknown reason (package is seq24) [12:28] if it built successfully today but failed earlier, it's probably due to the mass give-back [12:28] (I haven't looked at its LP page) [12:29] It doesn't appear to have built successfully on the buildds, but I know it build in my pbuilder on Saturday === Lathiat [n=lathiat@ubuntu/member/pdpc.basic.lathiat] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Toadstool [n=jcorbier@ubuntu/member/toadstool] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nixternal_ is now known as nixternal === geser [n=michael@85.25.109.14] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:48] please do not feed the troll in -devel. [12:48] sorry [12:48] I just thought that was really funny [12:49] I think that was the funniest thing I've read today [12:50] LOL [12:50] wahooo, chuck the kernel cause there are too many distros ;-) [12:51] Yeah, it was quite funny. === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@CPE-124-178-25-126.wa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lathiat [n=lathiat@ubuntu/member/pdpc.basic.lathiat] has joined #ubuntu-motu === azeem_ [n=mbanck@host109.natpool.mwn.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === micahcowan [n=micahcow@69.36.252.2] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lathiat_ [n=lathiat@ubuntu/member/pdpc.basic.lathiat] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:20] are there mirrors for http://archive.ubuntu.com and http://security.ubuntu.com [02:20] I am not able to pull from them - my downloads timeout [02:21] Yes [02:21] Look on the wiki and search for 'Mirrors' [02:22] Not of security. === Hawkwind [n=SoS@ulteo/community/leader/forum/admin/Hawkwind] has joined #Ubuntu-MOTU === ryanakca_ [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:11] oh microsoft how i spit in your face === ryanakca_ is now known as ryanakca === Kamping_Kaiser [n=kgoetz@easyubuntu/docteam/kgoetz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mat__ [n=mat@82.247.157.187] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:18] Heya gang [04:18] hi bddebian === Kyral_Laptop kisses bddebian === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:18] Hi bmonty, Kyral_Laptop [04:18] Uhm Kyral_Laptop? :) [04:18] Heya Gloubiboulga [04:18] I'm a litttle tipsy [04:18] Ah :-) [04:18] good night everyone [04:18] hic [04:18] :) [04:19] yeah irc and drinking is a good mix [04:19] yeeeapapapapa === bmonty is now known as bmonty_away [04:19] hello MOTU world [04:19] hi bddebian :) [04:19] Gnight bmonty_away === micahcowan [n=micahcow@69.36.252.2] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Laser_away is now known as LaserJock [04:40] hiya bddebian [04:40] Hi LaserJock === [cro] smiley [n=smiley@83-131-75-161.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:44] <[cro] smiley> hi all [04:46] Hello [cro] smiley [04:46] <[cro] smiley> i have an application that i would like to be included in ubuntu repository if its possible. Here is project page: http://timesaver.sourceforge.net and deb package is here: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=170378&package_id=194451 [04:47] [cro] smiley: do you know if there is a source package for that .deb? a .deb alone isn't helpful for us [04:48] <[cro] smiley> yes [04:48] <[cro] smiley> there is at the same adress [04:48] <[cro] smiley> both deb and tar.gz with sources [04:49] well, the the tar.gz isn't the source package [04:49] that's the source tarball which is a bit different [04:49] <[cro] smiley> LaserJock, ok what do i need then? [04:49] <[cro] smiley> i made deb using just that tarball [04:50] <[cro] smiley> at least that is what i read in a thread about making debs for ubuntu at ubuntuforums.org [04:50] <[cro] smiley> this thread: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51003 [04:52] use dpkg-buildpackage -S -rfakeroot [04:52] <[cro] smiley> i did... [04:52] instead of dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot [04:52] <[cro] smiley> atually i think i used sudo [04:53] you don't want to do that === pschulz01 [n=paul@eth6067.sa.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:53] <[cro] smiley> ok [04:53] [cro] smiley: the source package is the .diff.gz .dsc and .orig.tar.gz files [04:54] <[cro] smiley> LaserJock, so i just need to rename it or what? [04:54] do you hve those files? [04:54] <[cro] smiley> LaserJock, i mead its mine project at least i know its sources or? :) [04:54] <[cro] smiley> *mean [04:55] source package != source tarball [04:55] <[cro] smiley> what is the difference except name, that would help me a bit you know.... [04:56] well the source package [04:56] is 3 files [04:56] the .diff.gz (which holds the diff to the tarball) [04:56] the .dsc which is the description file [04:57] and the .orig.tar.gz which is the source tarball [04:57] <[cro] smiley> and way to make source package would be ? [04:58] dpkg-buildpackage [04:58] [cro] smiley, does your original tarball have a debian/ directory in it, or did you add it after, just to make a .deb (which is better)? [04:58] you should have one [04:58] <[cro] smiley> oh now i know, sorry.... [04:58] <[cro] smiley> i have those [05:00] <[cro] smiley> do you need dsc.asc? [05:01] no [05:02] that file usually exists if you didn't sign the .dsc file === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:02] <[cro] smiley> so i put those 3 files in a package right? [05:03] hi all [05:03] Hi Hobbsee. :-) [05:03] [cro] smiley: no [05:03] Hobbsee *drunken swagger* [05:03] <[cro] smiley> LaserJock, ok [05:03] [cro] smiley, nope, those 3 files /are/ the "source package" [05:03] hi micahcowan, Kyral_Laptop [05:03] Kyral_Laptop: heh. scary [05:04] <[cro] smiley> micahcowan, so i upload that separattely [05:04] <[cro] smiley> *them [05:04] I think you get someone (LaserJock?) to upload/sponsor for you? [05:05] [cro] smiley: well, if want to get the package reviewed you upload to our REVU server with dput [05:05] Heya Hobbsee [05:05] hi bddebian [05:05] [cro] smiley: take a look at wiki.ubuntu.com/REVU [05:05] hi LaserJock [05:05] hi Hobbsee [05:05] how's it going? [05:06] LaserJock: good, i dont think i took in a word of that electronics lecture :P === Hobbsee had better make sure she doesnt get arrested today. [05:06] s/arrested/pulled over, etc/ [05:06] Shouldn't Kyral_Laptop be the one worrying? :) [05:07] huh? [05:07] what with all the swaggering... [05:07] wha? [05:07] Oh I'm faking [05:07] Bah, I'm going to bed. Gnight folks [05:24] <[cro] smiley> LaserJock, i looked at REVU and now i have created a gpg key and uploaded it to keyserver.ubuntu.com [05:24] <[cro] smiley> , what do i do next? [05:24] <[cro] smiley> sorry for asking but i seem to lost the guidelines... [05:26] [cro] smiley: do you have a Launchpad account? [05:27] <[cro] smiley> LaserJock, yes [05:27] [cro] smiley: add you gpg key to your launchpad page [05:29] <[cro] smiley> ok, i got it now... [05:30] [cro] smiley: ok, now join the ubuntu-universe-contributors Launchpad team [05:30] https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-universe-contributors/+join [05:30] <[cro] smiley> LaserJock, no i said i understand, ill be done in a minute ;) [05:31] oh, sorry [05:31] <[cro] smiley> np [05:40] <[cro] smiley> just done adding gpg key to launchpad, this one of most exciting things ever done :) [05:40] <[cro] smiley> joined the team :) [05:42] LaserJock: you don't have revu admin access, do you? === ajmitch will sync the keyring then [05:43] <[cro] smiley> LaserJock, i don't think i have [05:43] <[cro] smiley> oh sorry not for me === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:44] once the keyring syncs you'll be able to upload to REVU [05:44] please make sure you upload source-only packages, always with the orig.tar.gz [05:44] <[cro] smiley> ajmitch, ok thank you very much [05:44] <[cro] smiley> ajmitch, no problem [05:45] after your first successful upload, you'll be able to retrieve the password on REVU, which is just used for logging in to comment on your uploads [05:45] ajmitch: no I don't :-0 [05:45] LaserJock: keyring sync is almost done anyway [05:45] it just breaks badly if 2 people do it at once [05:46] <[cro] smiley> ajmitch, so i upload does 3 files mentioned above, right? [05:46] <[cro] smiley> just to check [05:47] [cro] smiley: dput revu package_version_source.changes [05:47] dput will take care of uploading what it needs [05:47] <[cro] smiley> oh, ok then === caleb- [n=caleb@61.66.87.130] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:52] Hello. Is there any official channel for backporting? I want to ask backporting issue about edgy to dapper. [05:52] generally, this one. [05:54] crimsun: GTK2 of edgy has migrated to 2.10.0, and /usr/lib/gtk2.0/2.4.0 changed to /usr/lib/gtk2.0/2.10.0. All GTK immodules will be in 2.10.0/immodules, which will not be found in dapper. [05:55] crimsun: I am maintainer of gcin, and gcin was approved to be backported. I wonder if I must do something for this...maybe add a 2.4.0 link point to 2.10.0? [06:03] <[cro] smiley> ajmitch, i have a problem i cant find *_source.changes, i only have: diff.gz, dsc, orig.tar.gz and deb [06:03] how did you build the package? [06:03] you should use debuild -S -sa, or dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa [06:04] <[cro] smiley> i try but says: gpg: [stdin] : clearsign failed: secret key not available [06:04] caleb-: the backport from edgy will be built against dapper+dapper-security+dapper-updates. Is there any reason you'd need to adjust anything for GTK+ 2.8.x? [06:04] <[cro] smiley> WARNING: unsafe ownership on configuration file `/home/smiley/.gnupg/gpg.conf' [06:05] <[cro] smiley> should i changa ownership or what? [06:05] <[cro] smiley> *change [06:06] does the name & email address you put in debian/changelog match that on your key? [06:06] <[cro] smiley> yep === imbrandon_ [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:07] try with debuild -S -sa -kD7984D11 [06:10] <[cro] smiley> cp: cannot remove `config.sub': Permission denied [06:10] something for you to fix - it was probably built as root at some point [06:10] do you create the source package with sudo [06:10] s/do/did/ [06:12] <[cro] smiley> all fixed [06:12] great [06:12] <[cro] smiley> _source.changes and _source.build appeared [06:12] crimsun: GTK immodules needs /usr/sbin/update-gtk-immodules to update immodule data. If immodules was put in 2.10.0 directory, dapper's update-gtk-immodules will not find them. [06:13] iirc, revu is in the default dput configuration, so you should be able to just use dput revu package_version_source.changes [06:13] whatever the name & version may be :) [06:13] crimsun: I have disscussed with seb128(maintainer of gtk2), but he said that is backport-team's problem. [06:14] <[cro] smiley> ajmitch, uploading .... :) [06:14] crimsun: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gtk+2.0/+bug/54956 [06:14] Malone bug 54956 in gtk+2.0 "Wrong path name 2.10.0, should be 2.4.0 for back-compatibility" [Untriaged,Rejected] [06:15] <[cro] smiley> Successfully uploaded packages. [06:15] <[cro] smiley> :) [06:15] <[cro] smiley> says not running dinstall is this ok? === ajmitch doesn't see them in the revu queue [06:16] <[cro] smiley> name is tsaver_0.4-0ubuntu1 [06:16] ah yes, it's there [06:16] <[cro] smiley> yipeeee [06:16] it's a rather large .diff [06:16] crimsun: I can add a link in gcin, then gtk2 needs not change. I just wonder if I have to upload a new gcin, or just let backport team to work? [06:16] <[cro] smiley> ls [06:17] [cro] smiley: I suggest you target edgy rather than breezy [06:17] also remove the .ex files in debian/ [06:17] caleb-: if it's backported, why are you concerned about GTK+ 2.10? [06:17] since they are examples only [06:18] <[cro] smiley> ok === Bazzi_ [n=Bastian@p50802BA0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:18] that's the majority of the .diff.gz [06:18] <[cro] smiley> ok [06:18] also, clean up any unused #dh_* commands in debian/rules [06:18] crimsun: It is approved for backport, but not backported yet. A CJK member told me that backport was done by machine automatically. [06:19] [cro] smiley: debian/cron.d.ex will need renamed to debian/cron.d to be used [06:19] crimsun: If that is true, then machine-made-backport will not work in dapper. It needs a 2.4.0 link to 2.10.0. [06:19] caleb-: the source packages are uploaded manually and built by buildds, yes. [06:20] <[cro] smiley> ok, im writing all down [06:20] crimsun: OK. So I have to upload a new release for this issue. Thank you. :-) [06:20] [cro] smiley: sorry, I should put this in comments on REVU :) [06:20] caleb-: is this link a problem in dapper-updates's GTK+ 2.8.20? [06:20] <[cro] smiley> ajmitch, well its ok [06:21] crimsun: No. Debian / Ubuntu GTK 2.4 to 2.8 all uses 2.4.0 for compatibility. [06:21] [cro] smiley: I've put the comments from irc on revu [06:21] caleb-: so why are you concerned about 2.10? [06:22] crimsun: 2.10 in edgy broke this back-compatibility. It uses 2.10.0 instead 2.4.0. [06:22] caleb-: Dapper doesn't have 2.10, therefore gcin will not be compiled against 2.10 [06:22] <[cro] smiley> ajmitch, can you check dependencies, it depends on wxwidgets but i'm not shure if i did list them right... [06:23] [cro] smiley: dpkg-gencontrol: warning: can't parse dependency binu tils (>= 2.16.1-2ubuntu6 ) [06:23] caleb-: your newer version of gcin will be compiled against GTK+ 2.8.20 [06:23] looks to be an added space there [06:23] crimsun: gcin can work ok with gtk 2.4 to 2.10. That build-limitation is added by GTK2's maintainer. [06:23] [cro] smiley: unless you really need things to be specific versions, you don't need to build-depend on anything in build-essential [06:24] crimsun: It is ok. gcin works smoothly in hoary / breezy / dapper / edgy. [06:24] [cro] smiley: also the binary package should not need automake & autoconf as dependencies - at most they should be build-depends [06:24] most of the Depends: line is not needed [06:25] <[cro] smiley> ajmitch, ok, if you can tell me what should i leave [06:25] <[cro] smiley> ok [06:25] ${shlibs:Depends} [06:26] <[cro] smiley> when do i execute that? [06:26] in Depends: [06:26] <[cro] smiley> ah ok [06:27] you won't need all those wx packages in Build-Depends [06:27] <[cro] smiley> where then [06:27] probably just libwxgtk2.6-dev [06:28] <[cro] smiley> ok [06:30] <[cro] smiley> ajmitch, can you comment all this please just to be shure [06:30] done [06:30] <[cro] smiley> thx [06:31] though it's 3 separate comments on revu now :) [06:31] <[cro] smiley> i see, will be ok [06:39] <[cro] smiley> ajmitch, so is that all, did you try to install? [06:40] no, that was just from 2 minutes of looking at the diff [06:40] and the build log - it failed to build due to the space in binutils, which doesn't need to be there [06:42] <[cro] smiley> so i have to fix that to continue checking or? [06:43] yep [06:43] someone else will hopefully pick up & do reviewing [06:44] <[cro] smiley> ok, and who finally ads it to repos if all goes well? [06:44] one of the MOTUs [06:44] once it gets advocated by 2 MOTUs [06:44] <[cro] smiley> i just wait [06:44] <[cro] smiley> ? [06:45] yes, fix what you can, upload, and get comments === dudus [n=dudus@200.246.22.208] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:45] <[cro] smiley> nice, well thanx for all the help it really means a lot [06:48] [cro] smiley: Contents in README.Debian looks a bit poor. If you have no important messages specific for Debian / Ubuntu users, you may remove that file. [06:53] [cro] smiley: Upload a modified and clean diff will make it enter into Ubuntu more easily. === carthik [n=carthik@pdpc/supporter/student/carthik] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:55] <[cro] smiley> caleb-, i'm working on it [06:58] has anyone else noticed trouble with select copying and pasting in dapper [06:58] i often find my newlines disappearing [06:59] pasting from both firefox & terminals to both irssi & gaim === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away [07:16] <[cro] smiley> caleb-, packages uploaded === evand [n=evan_d@72.20.218.20] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:19] <[cro] smiley> i have put tsaver new packages at revu that need to be reviewed [07:21] [cro] smiley: It seems not updated yet. It may needs 5 minutes. [07:22] <[cro] smiley> caleb-, ok it said: Successfully uploaded packages. === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:34] [cro] smiley: changelog should for edgy, and * Initial release. [07:34] [cro] smiley: compat should be 5, not 4. [07:34] [cro] smiley: dirs is not needed in most situation. [07:34] [cro] smiley: Build-Depends should have debhelper, because your rules uses them. [07:34] [cro] smiley: Standards-Version should newer. [07:34] [cro] smiley: Long description includes short description. It is better have some [07:34] [cro] smiley: linefeed in long description. [07:34] [cro] smiley: manpage should be tsaver.1 or something. [07:34] [cro] smiley: manpage.sgml.ex is not needed. [07:34] [cro] smiley: You may use lintian or linda to check your new diff and debs. Use those commands in edgy. === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:41] <[cro] smiley> caleb-, what do you mean by: It is better have some linefeed in long description? [07:44] [cro] smiley: Your long description in control is too lone for a 80x24 terminal. [07:44] <[cro] smiley> oh i see [07:44] <[cro] smiley> no problem [07:46] [cro] smiley: It still have some tiny problems. But I think you may fix these first. [07:46] <[cro] smiley> ok === Gidget [n=gidgetb_@adsl-219-163-248.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:48] <[cro] smiley> caleb-, is this ok: * ubuntu linux package for Edgy Eft [07:48] <[cro] smiley> in changelog [07:49] "Initial release." is fine [07:49] <[cro] smiley> just that? [07:49] [cro] smiley: tsaver (0.4-0ubuntu1) edgy; urgency=low [07:49] it'll be pretty obvious that it's for ubuntu edgy [07:50] <[cro] smiley> and why does it have to be edgy if i may ask? [07:50] because edgy is the current dev branch. [07:51] <[cro] smiley> remove dirs? === elmargol [n=elmargol@host237-61.pool8248.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:51] if you don't use it, remove it [07:51] <[cro] smiley> and what should i do about Standards-Version [07:51] (I haven't looked at it on REVU) [07:52] it should be the latest according to Policy [07:52] of course you need to verify first that it meets Policy [07:52] <[cro] smiley> hm, that doesn't tells me much [07:53] apt-cache policy debian-policy [07:54] [and of course, http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ ] [07:56] [cro] smiley: Standards-Version is not that important. You may fix it later. [07:56] [cro] smiley: check your debs and diff with lintian. It helps very much. [07:56] <[cro] smiley> caleb-, ok === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:59] <[cro] smiley> lintian say only: W: tsaver source: out-of-date-standards-version 3.6.1 [08:00] <[cro] smiley> well i think i fixed all mentioned above, I'm putting it up for third time... [08:01] upid? [08:02] <[cro] smiley> crimsun, sorry what? [08:02] the URL. [08:02] <[cro] smiley> what url [08:03] crimsun: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2852 [08:03] ah, there's been another one [08:03] 2853 then [08:03] thanks, ajmitch [08:03] <[cro] smiley> oh, sorry i know now [08:04] <[cro] smiley> still uploading... [08:05] <[cro] smiley> it is there now [08:06] [cro] smiley: Your tarball has no its own manpage? Those files in diff.gz should put in debian/, unless you want to patch source. [08:07] [cro] smiley: for example, tsaver.1 should be put in debian/tsaver.1 [08:07] <[cro] smiley> no problem [08:09] 'morning [08:10] Section: Utilities [08:10] Description: TimeSaver is simple time management application. [08:12] debian/copyright:Copyright needs date{,s} [08:12] you generally should include the GPL preamble [08:13] <[cro] smiley> ok, but what about section and descriptio? [08:13] tsaver.1: +.TH TSAVER SECTION "August 1, 2006" [08:13] note template SECTION [08:15] Section: utils [08:16] Description: a simple time management application [08:16] <[cro] smiley> ok [08:16] or just drop the article completely [08:16] Description: simple time management application === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@c58-107-168-5.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:17] it should generally be read as 'package is a'... [08:17] so yes, drop the article [08:17] <[cro] smiley> where does .TH TSAVER SECTION "August 1, 2006" go? [08:18] <[cro] smiley> what line in tsaver.1 [08:18] [cro] smiley: depend_script is useless I think. === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:19] <[cro] smiley> caleb-, yes you are right i used it for filling the dependencies in control [08:20] [cro] smiley: that's what ${shlibs:Depends} is for [08:20] [cro] smiley: the line placement is fine in the man page. You just left in the template SECTION without changing it. [08:20] <[cro] smiley> yes, i didn't know, i was following ubuntuforums.org example as i said before [08:23] [cro] smiley: make install creates essential directories, so debian/dirs is not needed. === Gidget [n=gidgetb_@adsl-219-163-248.asm.bellsouth.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [08:23] <[cro] smiley> ok [08:23] [cro] smiley: or you will have a useless /usr/sbin directory in your deb [08:24] [cro] smiley: Most problems are resolved. Others needs MOTU to review. [08:24] <[cro] smiley> caleb-, so is it possible to install it? [08:25] <[cro] smiley> crimsun, so can i replace SECTION with 1 [08:25] [cro] smiley: You have not tried it? I am under win32 in work. I can not build it now... [08:25] <[cro] smiley> caleb-, well not this modifed version [08:25] <[cro] smiley> i tried one i made myself only === caleb- My country is slave of Micro$oft. :( [08:26] caleb-, but you are free [08:26] my University has sold out too [08:26] [cro] smiley: sure [08:27] and all the sysadmins would lose jobs if they moved off of Microsoft [08:28] <[cro] smiley> crimsun, do i also replace the NAME? [08:28] <[cro] smiley> crimsun, in .SH NAME [08:30] [cro] smiley: Your are the upstream author? If your put the manpage in next release, then you do not have it in *.diff.hz :) === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === abelcheung [n=abelcheu@210.0.212.180] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:32] <[cro] smiley> caleb-, yes i'm the author, and what should i do about manpage, i don't understand? [08:35] <[cro] smiley> what should i do about copyright? [08:35] [cro] smiley: debian / ubuntu do not change upstream tarball unless they have non-free data. [08:36] <[cro] smiley> where do i need a date? [08:36] [cro] smiley: http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/gcin-0606170225/gcin-1.2.0/debian/copyright # a example of copyright file === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:38] [cro] smiley: It is debian's traditional style. It is not the best version, though. [08:41] <[cro] smiley> is my licence text ok, or do i have to copy /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL [08:42] [cro] smiley: list 3 or 4 paragraph in copyright, and leave a message point to /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL [08:43] [cro] smiley: You may leave this issue unfixed. Wait MOTU to comment. [08:44] <[cro] smiley> ok [08:45] [cro] smiley: make sure all files in diff.gz is under debian/, and make sure lintian and linda are happy. Then wait for MOTUs. :-) === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zdra [n=zdra@100.229-243-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:49] <[cro] smiley> fourth upload on the way... === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:53] <[cro] smiley> linda and lintian are now complaining, please help: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2854 [08:54] <[cro] smiley> sorry: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2855 [08:55] [cro] smiley: It is just about debhelper's version. [08:56] <[cro] smiley> caleb-, i don't think so [08:56] [cro] smiley: Grossly it looks fine now. [08:56] <[cro] smiley> http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/tsaver-0608080245/lintian [08:56] <[cro] smiley> or am i looking at the wrong one [08:57] [cro] smiley: edgy is not a traditional debian release name. It is normal for you. [08:57] [cro] smiley: Build a new deb using current diff file, and check deb by lintian / linda. [08:58] [cro] smiley: And a bad news...I think edgy is freeze for upstream now. Your package may wait for edgy+1 to enter ubuntu. [08:59] [cro] smiley: Unless some core team member want to upload the package for you. [08:59] <[cro] smiley> and when is edgy+1 [08:59] eh, new for universe is fine [08:59] [cro] smiley: April 2007 I think. [08:59] <[cro] smiley> not soon [08:59] this doesn't at all need to go into main [08:59] universe is not frozen [08:59] Oh. sorry. :P [08:59] new apps are accepted until late september, iirc [09:00] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule [09:00] Universe freezes sept 28th === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B057C.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === caleb- is stupid. :P [09:01] <[cro] smiley> can i change debian/compat back to 4, i think this is a problem? [09:01] no, you probably just heard about main's UVF [09:01] hey dholbach [09:02] [cro] smiley: having it at 5 is no problem if you build-depend on debhelper (>= 5.0.0) [09:02] good morning [09:02] ajmitch: hey andrew [09:02] <[cro] smiley> ajmitch, sounds like someone forgot to mention that :) [09:03] <[cro] smiley> and is debhelper >= 5.0.0 available at all? [09:04] 5.0.37.3ubuntu1 [09:04] that's what we have in ubuntu atm [09:04] (edgy) [09:04] <[cro] smiley> thx [09:06] <[cro] smiley> i hope this is the last upload, must get some sleep [09:12] <[cro] smiley> seems ok now, now is all to MOTUs, and Im going to sleep [09:13] <[cro] smiley> night guys and thanks for all the fish ;) [09:18] night [cro] smiley === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:38] hi all [09:38] hello Hobbsee === abelcheung_ [n=abelcheu@210.0.212.180] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@CPE-124-178-25-126.wa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=gervysta@217-133-96-194.b2b.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@kiwi.mediascape.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:14] Hey Hobbsee [10:14] hi TheMuso :) [10:14] hi TheMuso === xopher [n=xopher@a84-230-124-206.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:15] Hey ajmitch. === carthik is now known as carthik_zZz === azeem_ is now known as azeem === nathandh [n=nathandh@dD5779A06.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee_ is now known as Hobbsee === geser [n=michael@85.25.109.36] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-108-144.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kagou [n=kagou@84.7.49.204] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:22] hi === allee [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cbx33 [n=c2df514b@84-45-197-14.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:07] hi guys [12:08] when installing phpmyadmin, should I just be able to browse to localhost/phpmyadmin [12:08] or do I need to set stuff up manually [12:19] cbx33: #ubuntu [12:24] TheMuso: fixed it now === lloydinho [n=andreas@rosinante.egmont-kol.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:27] hello === geser [n=michael@85.25.109.36] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === derjohn [n=derjohn@dslb-084-058-197-025.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === shawarma [n=sh@vega.linux2go.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:32] Does one have to subscribe a specific MOTU related team to get a sync request confirmation examined? [01:32] motureviewers *may* work [01:33] TheMuso: i'm assuming it's the universe team that you used before. [01:33] or just poke someone here, i guess [01:33] if MOTUs are willing to check that list for syncs pending [01:33] ajmitch: might be offering :P [01:33] Hobbsee is a MOTU [01:33] I know that. [01:33] Hobbsee can do all [01:33] no need to subscribe anything :) [01:33] ajmitch: i just uploaded one of his bits. it's your turn nwo :P [01:34] I'm busy updating stuff in main [01:34] heh [01:34] Tis fine guys. I shan't depend on you for too much longer. [01:34] swearing at upstream, etc [01:34] I intend to go for MOTU as soon as I can get my key signed by someone who is part of a strong set. [01:34] ajmitch: haha [01:34] TheMuso: stevenk can sign it, i expect [01:35] I so can't. [01:35] heh [01:35] StevenK: why not? ajmitch signed yours? [01:35] ajmitch is not strong enough physically oh wait...you are talking keys, === StevenK denies everything. [01:35] watch it zul [01:35] hehe.. [01:36] hi ajmitch [01:36] hello [01:36] TheMuso: If you're free during the day, you can bug me at work and we can lunch together. [01:36] StevenK: I'll think about it. There is one problem however, one which I had an interesting time resolving when I had to get my key signed to look a bit better when signing the coc. === TheMuso waits to see if anybody can guess what that was. === nathandh [n=nathandh@dD5779A06.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:37] TheMuso: Verifying the other party [01:37] Yup. [01:38] Bart uses someone sighted who he trusts. [01:38] ah yes, that's a point. [01:38] Thats what I had to do. [01:38] TheMuso: Dealing with blind people teaches you just how much people depend on sight. [01:38] If I ever get around to setting up a blog, it is something that I will certainly blog about. [01:39] I'll bet. === xopher [n=xopher@a84-230-124-206.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === elmargol [n=elmargol@host237-61.pool8248.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === elmargol [n=elmargol@host237-61.pool8248.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu === elmargol [n=elmargol@host237-61.pool8248.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === neutrinomass [n=pandis@ppp26-100.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:35] Generally speaking, is it a rule that no two patches can change the same function ? Because if they do, and you edit the first patch, then you might have to edit the second patch as well which might break something else etc. etc. [02:41] neutrinomass: now you see why some ppl prefer a VCS over a patch system [02:41] hi siretart [02:41] siretart: True ... [02:43] And since we're at it, should bugs be filed against packages with unmet deps or will this be sorted automatically before release ? [02:43] huhu Hobbsee! [02:43] neutrinomass: they usually have a script for that. its' quicker to just fix it though, and get someone to upload it :) [02:43] neutrinomass: I think bugs should be filed and tagged appropriately, so we can batch process them [02:44] OK OK, I'll file one ...(Hobbsee I already told you that I can't really fix stuff yet :P ) [02:44] neutrinomass: you can learn to :P [02:44] neutrinomass: what package, and what's the fixed build dep? [02:47] bug 55666 [02:47] Malone bug 55666 in moodss "[UNMETDEPS] moodss has unmet dependencies" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/55666 [02:47] cool bugno :) === abelcheung [n=abelcheu@pcd730116.netvigator.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:48] Hobbsee: I just finished the patching tute, searching the wiki for more reading material [02:48] do we already have a tag for unmet deps? [02:48] siretart: I looked a little bit at the ones in the /topic but they had no tags ... === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:50] siretart: tags seem to get added at random by users [02:50] neutrinomass: perhaps we should start compiling a list of proposed tags [02:50] huhu ajmitch [02:50] hi :) === Hobbsee_ is now known as Hobbsee [02:50] siretart: There's some discussion on the -devel mailing list, isn't there ? [02:52] neutrinomass: yes, dholbach started it. I'm following that thread === [cro] smiley [n=smiley@83-131-77-250.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === geser [n=michael@85.25.109.36] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sladen [i=paul@starsky.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:47] Night folks [03:48] night TheMuso === bddebian [n=bdefrees@216.178.65.218] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:49] Um.. what does dh_desktop do exactly? Is it required whenever installing a .desktop (I looked at the man page but it didn't really elaborate ) [03:50] Heya gang [03:51] neutrinomass: It takes care of modifying the postinst/prerm [03:51] neutrinomass: it adds bits to the postinst/postrm to run update-desktop-database [03:52] which is of course undocumented [03:52] ajmitch: Which means that it should be used whenever a .desktop is installed, right ? (Sorry, I'm very new to this ) [03:52] I think so [03:53] Actually, by grepping through gftp's and gerbv's debian/ directory, none of them use it :-/ [03:55] And should the changelog be edited with a text editor or with dch ? (or does it make no difference? ) [03:56] neutrinomass: it'd be in debian/rules [03:56] Hobbsee: I figured, but it isn't :-/ [03:56] neutrinomass: and dch (with -i, if you want to increment the changelog) effectively adds bits to the changelog, and opens it in your favorite text editor. [03:56] neutrinomass: it's quicker to do dch [03:57] Hobbsee: ok, thanks [03:57] neutrinomass: ah. does the package happen to use cdbs? [03:59] Hobbsee: Um... not sure - it's got no gnome.mk in it though [03:59] neutrinomass: what do the first few lines of debian/rules say? [03:59] does it have something about includes? [03:59] Hobbsee: No, and there's no reference to cdbs in debian/control ... [04:00] neutrinomass: ah right. how odd. [04:00] neutrinomass: doesnt use cdbs then :P === neutrinomass isn't exactly sure what cdbs is but figured it should be mentioned in control if it's used :P === neutrinomass is still busy reading tutorials [04:00] neutrinomass: you'd be right. it's an alternate to debhelper [04:00] neutrinomass: anotehr build system === StevenK whispers something evil in Hobbsee's ear. [04:01] Ok, thanks. [04:01] get a room! [04:01] heh [04:01] tseng: I have one, thank you. [04:01] Hobbsee will know what I'm talking about. [04:01] !!!!! [04:01] I know nothing about !!!! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu [04:01] oh now i do [04:01] a certain 4 letter word, I presume [04:01] ajmitch: yeah, that's the one [04:02] Correct. [04:02] i had to think about that for a while. [04:02] really? [04:02] not really a word [04:02] must be late for you :) [04:02] ajmitch: heh [04:02] ajmitch: Not as late as it is for you. === Hobbsee shudders at the evil mention of the thing in her ear. [04:03] yes, but I'm trying to fix xen stuff [04:03] evil...must...purge...all...evil...... [04:03] According to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/NoDesktopFile though, if cdbs's gnome.mk is not used, dh_desktop must be called. :-/ [04:03] Hobbsee: Heh, I'm sorry. === Hobbsee goes off muttering about EVIL thigns. [04:03] s/thigns/things/ [04:04] heh ajmitch does my bidding now [04:04] yes master? [04:04] zul: nice work. the mind control hats are working then :) [04:04] oh, wait, that was a school joke. darn. [04:04] Hobbsee: yes and when he does something wrong the hats have electrodes [04:04] zul: hehe, very nice. [04:04] yay, pain1 [04:05] ajmitch: it builds character [04:05] and it's so much fun === hub [n=hub@storm-gw.xandros.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pschulz01 [n=paul@202.174.42.5] has joined #ubuntu-motu === stratus [n=stratus@cronopio.rits.org.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:50] bug 55356 - my first debiff - can somebody please take a look to see if it's OK ? [04:50] Malone bug 55356 in specimen "specimen has no .desktop file" [Untriaged,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/55356 === Zdra [n=zdra@155.238-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === elmargol [n=elmargol@host237-61.pool8248.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zdra_ [n=zdra@85.167-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:02] Actually, it doens't look correct ( I didn't change all that), but I don't know what went wrong :( === Xnix [n=xnix@n157s046.ntc.blacksburg.shentel.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-250-59-127.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nexu [n=nexu@2001:888:10:284:0:0:1ce:c01d] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nixternal [n=nixterna@71.194.189.213] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === elmargol [n=elmargol@host237-61.pool8248.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zdra [n=zdra@222.212-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === GazerWork [n=gazer@mail.aktiv-assekuranz.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === GazerWork is now known as Gazer === ajmitch [n=ajmitch@ubuntu/member/ajmitch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Bazzi [n=Bastian@p50802BA0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-250-59-127.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:32] pinging some reviewers: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2847 :) [06:36] phanatic, I'll have a look in 1 or 2 minutes :) [06:36] Gloubiboulga: thanks :) === elmargol [n=elmargol@host237-61.pool8248.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === elmargol [n=elmargol@host237-61.pool8248.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:49] phanatic, I'm not sure about the files in /usr/lib [06:50] Gloubiboulga: do you think they would be more appropriate in /usr/share/uck maybe? [06:50] phanatic, I think so === elmargol [n=elmargol@host237-61.pool8248.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:51] Gloubiboulga: okay. if there's nothing else, i'll update the package [06:51] and the watch seems a little buggy ;) [06:51] Gloubiboulga: maybe the guys changed the extension :) it has worked for 1.1, but 1.2 was just recently released (after the package was done btw) :) [06:52] gauvain@tiber:/var/revu/revu1-incoming/uck-0608070510/uck-1.2$ uscan [06:52] uck: remote site does not even have current version [06:53] I guess you're right ;) === lionelp [n=lionel@ip-128.net-82-216-65.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:55] Gloubiboulga: indeed. .tgz was changed to .tar.gz - consistency rulez :) [06:55] hehe === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:56] Gloubiboulga: just add that to your comment too, so i don't forget it ;) [06:56] phanatic, ok :) === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-250-59-127.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === shenki [n=shenki@ppp164-5.lns3.adl4.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:14]