[12:50] <freeflying> @schedule shanghai
[12:50] <Ubugtu> Schedule for Asia/Shanghai: 09 Aug 20:00: Edubuntu | 10 Aug 23:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 11 Aug 05:00: Kubuntu | 16 Aug 04:00: Technical Board | 17 Aug 04:00: Edubuntu | 18 Aug 07:00: Ubuntu Development Team
[04:15] <MarcelDel> ello*
[06:19] <nixternal> @schedule chicago
[06:19] <Ubugtu> Schedule for America/Chicago: 09 Aug 07:00: Edubuntu | 10 Aug 10:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 10 Aug 16:00: Kubuntu | 15 Aug 15:00: Technical Board | 16 Aug 15:00: Edubuntu | 17 Aug 18:00: Ubuntu Development Team
[06:19] <nixternal> oh good n early \o/
[10:03] <Ekushey> anyone knows when is the next community committee meeting?
[02:38] <ogra> hey
[02:38] <ogra> sorry for forgetting about it
[02:38] <ogra> but i'm very busy with implementing local device support
[02:39] <cbx33> np ogra 
[02:39] <ogra> ah
[02:40] <ogra> ok, quick tech update: http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/ltsp-tarballs/ has a recent ppc tarball from last night
[02:40] <ogra> i'll trigger i386 afetr the meeting
[02:40] <Petaris> cool
[02:40] <ogra> local device support should be implemented by end of the week, i'm making good progress here
[02:40] <ogra> cdroms are a but tricky...
[02:40] <ogra> but i'm getting there
[02:41] <ogra> oh, and the dapper pointrelease CD is done ...
[02:41] <Petaris> Will this be backported to dapper?
[02:41] <ogra> should be published the next days
[02:41] <jsgotangco_> hey
[02:42] <jsgotangco_> sorry about that
[02:42] <ogra> lets see if i can ... depends on the dependencys ... the prob with backporting is that ltsp made a quantum jump in its code between dapper and edgy
[02:42] <Petaris> ok
[02:42] <ogra> i.e. everything is modular and plugin based now ... that wasnt the case in dapper
[02:43] <Petaris> How goes local apps for ltsp?
[02:43] <ogra> so thats it from the tech side
[02:43] <ogra> not specced for edgy
[02:43] <Petaris> ahh, ok
[02:44] <ogra> edgy will have automatic swap support, an automatic dhcp configuration in the edubuntu installer and local devices and some minor improvements
[02:44] <ogra> that are the biggest changes
[02:45] <Petaris> End of meeting?
[02:45] <irvin> :)
[02:45] <ogra> grmpf
[02:46] <Petaris> grmpf?
[02:46] <ogra> yes, xchat seems to have lost its auto-rejoin capabilities
[02:46] <Petaris> ahh
[02:46] <jsgotangco> heh
[02:47] <ogra> ok, thats all from the tech side ... anyone from the doc side here ?
[02:47] <ogra> any news ? 
[02:48] <ogra> hmm, doesnt look like
[02:48] <ogra> art ?
[02:48] <ogra> cbx33, any news from AliasVegas ?
[02:48] <cbx33> yes
[02:49] <ogra> tell us :)
[02:49] <cbx33> she is working with Jane on creating the 3 new wallapers
[02:49] <ogra> cool
[02:49] <cbx33> and I think she is currently working usplash
[02:49] <cbx33> and gnome splash
[02:49] <cbx33> jane has done some nice icon designs
[02:49] <ogra> even cooler !
[02:49] <jsgotangco> usplash WOW
[02:49] <cbx33> we're getting there ogra 
[02:49] <ogra> yeah, looks like
[02:49] <cbx33> I know it seems like not a lots happeneing :p
[02:50] <cbx33> but it is
[02:50] <cbx33> :D
[02:50] <ogra> well, silent crativity ;)
[02:50] <cbx33> yes
[02:50] <ogra> *creativity
[02:50] <jsgotangco> it'll pick up halfway when edgy is quite usable
[02:50] <cbx33> any ideas or suggestions to try please do so
[02:50] <ogra> edgy is quite usable :)
[02:51] <ogra> jsgotangco, dont be a coward :)
[02:51] <jsgotangco> ogra: dude it doesn't even work on my rig :/
[02:51] <jsgotangco> it doesn't see my interfaces at all
[02:51] <cbx33> heh
[02:51] <ogra> bah ... thats evil
[02:52] <jsgotangco> anyways
[02:52] <jsgotangco> i got to talk to someone today
[02:52] <jsgotangco> we're going to do a test pilot of implementing edubuntu 1:1
[02:52] <ogra> 1:1 ?
[02:52] <cbx33> :)
[02:52] <jsgotangco> pc/student ratio
[02:52] <Petaris> ogra: will a dist-upgrade from dapper bring me to edgy without borkign the system?
[02:52] <jsgotangco> non-ltsp
[02:52] <Petaris> er, borking
[02:53] <ogra> Petaris, it *could* ... no promises 
[02:53] <ogra> dont do it in production :)
[02:53] <Petaris> ok
[02:53] <Petaris> this is a production server
[02:54] <ogra> any other artwork stuff ? 
[02:54] <ogra> any management or community related news ? 
[02:54] <cbx33> nope
[02:54] <ogra> hmm, no RichEd
[02:55] <ogra> rodarvus, anything additionally from your side ? 
[02:55] <rodarvus> oh, sorry
[02:55] <rodarvus> I was concentrated working and totally forgot meeting
[02:55] <ogra> (i forgot about it as well)
[02:55] <cbx33> so did everyone else :p
[02:55] <ogra> we just started 
[02:55] <rodarvus> let me read the backlog before mentioning anything else :)
[02:55] <cbx33> I thought you guys had changed it without telling me
[02:55] <cbx33> :p
[02:55] <cbx33> thought you didn't want me
[02:56] <ogra> cbx33, !!
[02:56] <cbx33> heheh
[02:56] <rodarvus> so, yes, my comments on technical side
[02:56] <rodarvus> ogra and I decided ogra will take over my LTSP specs for Edgy
[02:56] <cbx33> oh, not strictly edubuntu related....I'm going to be making some video tutorials
[02:56] <ogra> oh, right, i totally forgot to mention that
[02:57] <rodarvus> because I have to start working RSN on Ubuntu OLPC effort
[02:57] <cbx33> :)
[02:57] <rodarvus> so, its quite likely that you'll hear something about Ubuntu OLPC on the next few weeks
[02:57] <ogra> with some very tight deadlines :)
[02:57] <rodarvus> indeed
[02:57] <rodarvus> really really tight deadlines :)
[02:57] <rodarvus> isn't ubuntu always like that? :)
[02:57] <ogra> well, if you wouldnt have X alongside that would be fine :)
[02:58] <ogra> but i assume X will eat a lot of bughunting time
[02:58] <rodarvus> actually I plan to partly give up on X soon
[02:58] <cbx33> rodarvus, i tried to get a board
[02:58] <rodarvus> it *has* to be a team effort
[02:58] <cbx33> but my reaons were not good enough
[02:58] <rodarvus> you can't work on both X and OLPC
[02:59] <rodarvus> both are rather full time jobs
[02:59] <rodarvus> cbx33, and did you get an answer from them?
[02:59] <cbx33> yes
[02:59] <ajmitch> rodarvus: good idea, I'll talk to you later about X stuff :)
[02:59] <ogra> i'd really really love to rewrite dexconf ... but not with that mount of specs
[02:59] <rodarvus> ajmitch, sure, nice
[02:59] <ogra> *amount
[02:59] <rodarvus> ogra, yup, that was one of my plans for X on edgy+1
[02:59] <cbx33> they said that helpnig with edubuntu on olpc development didn't benefit them much
[02:59] <ogra> and we'll need a gui for dualhead cofiguration
[03:00] <ogra> but thats also edgy+1
[03:01] <ogra> final call, any management or community related news ? 
[03:01] <ogra> or anything else from anybody ? 
[03:01] <cbx33> oh
[03:01] <cbx33> one more thing
[03:01] <ogra> right
[03:01] <cbx33> it was declined to take edubuntu to the BETTShow2007
[03:01] <jsgotangco> oh well
[03:01] <cbx33> just thought I'd mention that as there was some interest
[03:01] <ogra> any reason why ? 
[03:02] <rodarvus> declined by who, RichEd?
[03:02] <cbx33> ask RichEd
[03:02] <cbx33> no
[03:02] <ogra> i guess RichEd is to busy 
[03:02] <cbx33> by canonical
[03:02] <rodarvus> oh
[03:02] <cbx33> it was basically that edubuntu isn't making enough 
[03:02] <cbx33> to be able to fund a venture like that
[03:02] <ogra> hmm, i thought exactly that would be RichEds job
[03:03] <jsgotangco> we're getting there
[03:03] <ogra> but i might be wrong
[03:03] <jsgotangco> we're going to do a 3 month study over here
[03:04] <jsgotangco> using most of the Edubuntu standard apps with a school's curriculum for group dynamics
[03:04] <ogra> nice !
[03:04] <jsgotangco> yep i'll definitely have concrete stuff before this month ends
[03:05] <cbx33> nice
[03:05] <cbx33> ogra, I was as supprised
[03:05] <cbx33> but nevermind
[03:05] <jsgotangco> don't be
[03:06] <jsgotangco> cbx33: you're in a school right? no plans inside there?
[03:06] <cbx33> I'm implementing an edubuntu server as we speak
[03:06] <cbx33> well, tomorrow I'll be continuing anyway :p
[03:07] <Petaris> s/two/to
[03:07] <jsgotangco> what we're doing is using edubuntu to complement the curriculum
[03:08] <jsgotangco> even if its a small deployment, we will get metrics on student improvements
[03:08] <jsgotangco> the project does benefit edubuntu, but generally, it gives a good impression on the state of free software in my place
[03:09] <jsgotangco> if you have performance metrics, it gives value added to edubuntu imho
[03:09] <ogra> absolutely
[03:10] <jsgotangco> this will be entirely new for me so i will pick RichEd's brains for this
[03:10] <cbx33> well we ran a trial edubuntu server last year
[03:10] <cbx33> and the kids loved it
[03:11] <cbx33> so I'm implementing a more solid solution this time
[03:11] <cbx33> 9 clients off a laptop isn't ideal
[03:11] <ogra> heh
[03:11] <ogra> depends on the memory
[03:12] <ogra> i'm running 3 clients on my lappie currently
[03:12] <ogra> which works fine with 1gig
[03:13] <ogra> ok, if there is nothing additionally, i'd say lets close 
[03:13] <ogra> going once
[03:13] <ogra> going twice
[03:13] <ogra> sold :)
[03:13] <rodarvus> :)
[03:13] <ogra> all chatting moves to #edubuntu :)
[11:56] <dholbach> night guys