=== Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@221.221.145.190] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=ubuntu@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:45] well, I think I'm in worse shape than I though === freeflying [n=freeflyi@221.221.145.190] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:47] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20036 [12:49] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20036 <- Could someone help me out with this? === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@CPE-124-178-25-126.wa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:50] Kr4t05: that is a question for #ubuntu [12:56] LaserJock: howso ? === Kr4t05 [n=andrew@dsl-206-251-9-192.dsl0.crls.pa.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [12:56] my X is totally gone [12:56] ouch [12:56] I have no idea what happened [12:56] make sure kubuntu-desktop is installed [12:56] it kind find vesa for pete's sake :-/ [12:57] that uninstalled on mine ( along with x ) [12:57] when i updated [12:57] *-desktop are all ok [12:57] hrm [12:57] X packages are there [12:57] whats your say , anything ? [12:58] which driver were you using? [12:58] s/your X log [12:58] fglrx, ati, and vesa [12:58] and you have xserver-xorg-video-ati installed? [12:58] (if you are able to use the ati driver) [12:58] X log says "module ABI major version (0) doesn't match the server's version (1)" [12:58] cough, that's from xserver-xorg-driver-* === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-64-26-167-82.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:59] yea [01:00] I've got: xserver-xorg-driver-ati 6.5.7.3-0ubuntu7 [01:00] right, which is obsolete now. [01:00] (thanks for following development! ;) [01:01] that's so 2 weeks ago [01:01] heh [01:01] well, I don't really care when it was [01:01] :-) [01:01] mister raging ubuntu-aholic MOTU indeed [01:01] hehe [01:01] X is Main dude ;-) [01:02] so? === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:02] ok, so does that explain why vesa wouldn't work? [01:02] I'm thinking something bigger is wrong [01:03] depends what the error message is [01:03] if you get the same with vesa, then that's probably your issue [01:04] since the New World Order is using xserver-xorg-video-* now [01:04] hmm [01:04] well that makes upgrading fun :-) [01:05] the x server should depend on the right drivers now [01:05] blame rodarvus if it doesn't [01:05] I'll have to have a talk with Mr. Rodrigo >:) [01:06] ok, brb I'm going to see if that did it === LaserJock [n=ubuntu@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [01:07] this is why my irc client isn't on my edgy box :) === pschulz01 [n=paul@eth6067.sa.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:14] LaserJock: any luck? [01:17] ajmitch: kinda, got vesa to work [01:19] I'll need to see if ati will work because I'd like to get 1400x900 === ajmitch would like a screen that did that resolution [01:20] I might have to get a couple of 23" cinema displays [01:20] 3840x1200 would be nice [01:21] Wouldn't the text be way too small? [01:21] heh ajmitch did you see that dual xgl vid thing ? [01:21] imbrandon: no? [01:21] TheMuso: probably not [01:22] TheMuso: I already have 1 crt at 1600x1200 & another with 1280x1024 [01:23] ajmitch: heh lemme find a link, looks like a NICE setup [01:23] ajmitch: btw thanks for fixin me up on REVU [01:23] no problem === geser [n=michael@85.25.109.36] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [01:26] ajmitch: how goes the SoC project? [01:26] ajmitch: ahh found it, GNOME twinview XLG stuff, really nice setup imo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUSn-jBA3CE [01:26] even has the cube stuff working on a dual display [01:26] bmonty: ok [01:26] imbrandon: not too hard to do - I have that [01:27] bmonty: I have to go out in a couple of min sorry :) [01:27] ajmitch: If you need a tester I'm interested in helping out...cya later [01:28] l8tr ajmitch [01:28] err later , heh [01:29] I'm having an unexpected struggle getting out of OS X, it seems I've invested too much time into it ;) [01:30] oops [01:30] I can't believe how anti-wifi I used to be [01:31] crimsun: I can't live without wifi [01:31] seriously [01:31] neither can I now [01:31] its like birdman away from the sun [01:33] LaserJock: hahahah quote " ... presented by raging Ubuntu-aholic MOTU [WWW] JordanMantha (LaserJock) .... " [01:33] whom did that ? [01:33] crimsun: yea wifi rocks [01:34] i used to hate it too when it was hard to setup and short ranged but as it gets better and easier i find it hard not to use [01:34] imbrandon: you have another mono dude in your area [01:34] imbrandon: he just found you on kansas lug [01:34] tseng: who ? [01:34] haha cool [01:34] snorp [01:34] james wilcox [01:34] hrm i've seen that name somewhere [01:35] planet gnome? [01:35] probably [01:35] heh [01:35] kc lug or kansas lug ? [01:35] dunno [01:35] where you getting this ? heh [01:35] 17:42 <@snorp> he's posting messages to the kansas city lug, at least [01:35] what chan ? [01:36] our top secret chat on gimpnet [01:36] ahh lol cool [01:36] yea tell him to look me up sometime, yea i post to our lug list semi often [01:36] we have another gnome upstream dev in town too [01:36] whos that [01:37] i'm the token kde guy LOL [01:37] yeah [01:37] he noticed [01:37] jhutchins [01:37] never heard of him [01:38] infact i just ordered a few hundred {k}ubuntu cd's for our lug to use at ITEC in oct [01:39] wilcox , ahhh i have seen him on the lug list its self is why, that where from, ask him why he dosent come into the lug chan ( #kclug here of freenode )\ [01:39] i knew i did somewhere [01:39] *from [01:40] infact i was thinking of forming ( or help form ) a KC LoCo team as 80% or so of our lug runs some form of ubuntu and we always promote it at ourr meeting/shows/confrences etc [01:41] maybe someday hehe [01:41] maybe today! [01:42] ;P [01:42] imbrandon: KC = Kansas City? [01:43] bmonty: yea [01:43] cool, I'm in Omaha [01:44] ahh nice yea thats only like 45 min away [01:44] more than that [01:44] my best friend from HS went to omaha for college [01:44] yea maybe a tad more ;) [01:44] its more like 3 hours [01:44] not tooo far though [01:45] probably , i havent made that trip in 8 or 9 years heh [01:45] since he graduated [01:45] my job has a big data center in omaha [01:45] and some other offices i think [01:45] First Data [01:46] cool where are you tseng ? [01:46] yeah, first data has a large office here [01:46] Wilmington, DE for work [01:46] cool [01:46] across the border i live in PA [01:46] so doesn't paypal, ameritrade, and a few others [01:46] ameritrade has a big office in KC too afaik [01:46] ameritrade uses a large portion of an old mall for their offices [01:46] or did at one point [01:47] i think they have a few floors on the sprint building here iirc [01:48] anyone using ekiga on amd64? [01:50] not i === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:06] anybody know who the moderator of -motu and -devel is? [02:08] the ML ? === Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@203.23.49.35] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:10] imbrandon: yeah, I stupidly posted using the wrong email address [02:10] ubuntu-devel list run by mdz at ubuntu.com [02:11] Ubuntu-motu list run by dholbach at ubuntu.com [02:11] future ref its listed at the bottom of https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ [02:11] ahh so jono got the job [02:12] oh, Mr. Smarty Pants over there :p [02:12] hehehe ;) === jaldhar_ [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:12] well, I wonder if I should brave the wrath of -devel and send it from the right email address [02:13] heh [02:13] Can somebody please perform some merges for me? [02:13] lol [02:14] Fujitsu: ? === LaserJock does his Ubuntu merging dance [02:14] hehehe === Fujitsu points towards http://people.ubuntu.com.au/~fujitsu/merges. [02:14] brb mt dew refil time, i should just get one of those fast food resraunt soda fountains in my computer lab room [02:15] Hahaha [02:15] ohhh mol, whats new with that /me looks [02:17] Fujitsu: does that include the patch for 10.4 thats floating arroudn the net [02:17] you just wanting these uploaded ? are they on the MoM ? [02:20] imbrandon, I don't think it includes it, no. [02:20] And yeah, I'd like them uploaded. They're mostly done my MoM. [02:20] Brb. [02:20] ok i can do the mol one as i know that package well enough to build/check/upload it etc [02:21] brb === OtavioRibeiro [n=otavio@c90667e5.static.spo.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:22] LaserJock: just a suggestion, i think you should send a follow up email on about the motu school or have it on a wiki page about what packages need to be installed in advance instead of saying durng the session to install foo and wait for people to finish [02:23] jsgotangco: did that ;-) [02:23] coolies [02:23] it's on the "for those who want to read ahead" page === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:23] http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School/PackagingBasics === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:26] hi all === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:27] hi zul [02:27] hey Hobbsee how goes it? [02:27] zul: it goes, late again :P [02:28] fun fun === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:29] heya Hobbsee [02:30] hi imbrandon [02:30] zul: it goes, late again :P [02:31] Hey Hobbsee. [02:31] Hobbsee: deja vu [02:31] zul: wasnt sure if you got it, i seemed to timeout there [02:32] hi TheMuso [02:32] ah.. [02:32] Back. [02:33] Fujitsu: :) === Fujitsu kicks Year 12 assembly. [02:34] ick...assembly language blows chunks === Fujitsu hits zul. === ryanakca [n=ryanakca@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:36] Fujitsu: yr 12 assembly? [02:37] Yeah. [02:37] Assembly of all the year 12s at school. === ryanakca [n=ryanakca@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:47] Fujitsu: ahh...you're not a part of this group? [02:47] im old all of the sudden [02:47] Fujitsu: when we hit year 12, we were as bored as everyone else, and just wanting to escape the assembly too. the guard of honour was really cool though [02:47] zul: :p [02:48] heh zul me too [02:48] I am a part of it. [02:48] Hence the going away for 12 minutes. === TheMuso remembers my year 12. We had our own common room :p [02:48] ah right [02:48] heh do you guys still pass notes in class? :) [02:48] TheMuso: they wouldnt let us have that :( [02:48] zul: yes, and during assemblies. [02:48] TheMuso, as do we... But I never use it, I've got the back room of the library :) [02:48] zul: IM's man IM's heheh [02:48] Hobbsee: Aww. My sympathies. [02:48] :) [02:49] imbrandon: nah...smoke signals are cooler [02:49] zul: or txt messages ;) [02:49] heh [02:49] Heheh. [02:49] imbrandon: when i was in school we just had pen and paper..i am so old school === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:49] zul: lol me too, pagers were high tech then , no cell phones === TheMuso doesn't know how he woud have got through school without technology. [02:50] let alone cell's with txt or IM [02:50] I guess I would have just had to use a brailler, like many others before me. [02:50] TheMuso, ouch. [02:50] And they can piss off classmates, very quickly, due to their noise levels. [02:50] I can imagine. [02:51] TheMuso: i found a cool link today that reads off RSS feeds to ya, i thought of you right away hehe [02:51] heh [02:51] i'm sure you have something that works much better though [02:51] Indeed. [02:51] imbrandon: heh...when i was in high school i was in a third world country that didnt have pager, cell phones, or any other fancy gadgets [02:51] heh === caravena [n=caravena@114-152-223-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:52] if i go back now they have all of the fancy gadgets [02:52] lol probably [02:52] i would hate to be in HS right now [02:53] i think i went through at the right time, the end of the dot com boom ;) [02:53] if i had went though a few years before though i might be sabdfl hehehe === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee_ is now known as Hobbsee [02:54] Hobbsee: Another lock-up? [02:55] TheMuso: no, i'm switching to wired, as bigpond did my request to host the kubuntu edgy knot 1 cd, so i can download it unmetered :) [02:56] nice ( they should run a full ubuntu mirror ) [02:56] heh [02:56] Cool! [02:56] Nice Hobbsee! [02:56] Fujitsu: very :) [02:56] Although being on Bigpond must be bad... [02:56] imbrandon: yeah...they have got most of the dapper ones hosted [02:56] Fujitsu: well, yeah [02:56] But at least they don't meter traffic to their own servers, whereas Optus does. === Hobbsee runs the download accelerator on the unmetered site :D [02:56] hehe [02:56] Hobbsee: yea but i mean a apt-mirror that syncs often [02:57] hope i can use the alternate cd - it lets you select partitions, doesnt it? [02:57] What kind of speed do you get from their file server? [02:57] Hobbsee: Yes. [02:57] Current speed = 382.00Kb/s, Average D/L speed = 674.58Kb/s [02:57] Hobbsee: yea actualy either one does but yea [02:57] Nice! [02:57] TheMuso: oh good. [02:57] imbrandon: good. it just doenst let you create, or something? [02:57] Hobbsee: Which one are you downloading? [02:57] either way [02:58] TheMuso: kubuntu desktop [02:58] Well that is the live CD. [02:58] I think ubiquity allows for partitioning advanced setups, but not sure how good it is. === TheMuso will never ever use ubiquity. Give me a text-mode installer that is known to be stable any day. [02:58] TheMuso: it's both live and install. for edgy (like they did for dapper) [02:58] TheMuso: yea it does, i tested it the other day on my ppc lappy [02:58] Hobbsee: I know. [02:59] somebody in -devel needs ops [02:59] I jsut don't think GUI installers on top of live CDs is a good idea. [02:59] Personally. [02:59] LaserJock: uh yeah.. [02:59] Same guy as yesterday. [03:00] But I am also aware that that is not what most people want. [03:00] lol in -dev [03:00] TheMuso: I go back and forth. I like having a livecd around for fixing things and showing people stuff [03:00] Yep. === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@71.57.11.218] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:01] TheMuso: but if I want to do a straight install, I'd rather go with the alternate cd === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:01] LaserJock: I'm the same. Live CDs are invaluable for that sort of thing. [03:01] Somebody called the ops, did they? [03:02] does anybody have ops in -devel? [03:02] I presume nalioth does, as he's Freenode staff... [03:02] oh yeah [03:02] I didn't see him come in === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:03] lol! [03:03] HAHAH. [03:03] what'd i miss? [03:03] He got banned from -offtopic!? Impressive.. [03:03] stupid telstra [03:03] That sam guy from NZ in -devel again. [03:03] As MarkShuttleworth. [03:04] oh, so that's what that ban was for [03:04] How can one get banned from -offtopic? Breaking the coc is one reason I guess, but how else? [03:04] Yup. [03:04] He was there yesterday as well... [03:04] TheMuso, that' [03:04] *that's it. [03:04] ah, the usual guy [03:04] silly === jaldhar_ is now known as jaldhar === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:06] TheMuso: or constant trolling too [03:06] can get ya banned [03:06] ok bbiab [03:07] Right. [03:08] crunchy trolls even better [03:08] Hobbsee: [20:07] and #kubuntu also , but i must run, can someone else with ops in there keep an eye out please [03:08] ^^ for that mark imposter [03:08] Yummu. === Fujitsu eats trolls. [03:08] Not again... [03:08] imbrandon: sigh. and for a paster. [03:09] Has he been in here at all? [03:10] probably, I can't recall === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:13] Hobbsee, considered fixing your dodgy connection? [03:14] Fujitsu: dunno what's screwing up. but i am downloading an iso [03:14] Ah. [03:14] Hobbsee: can i just suggest dialup? :) [03:14] zul: haha! [03:14] Hey, I'm on 28.8kbps for half of most months! [03:15] Hobbsee: i had dialup for a year i didnt do much afer that === abelcheung__ [n=abelcheu@221.126.147.160] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:24] iso is done yay :) [03:25] You lucky thing to get them that fast. [03:26] TheMuso: heh, yeah. yay for download accelerators and unmetered sites. === TheMuso can't wait for ADSL2. :) [03:26] crimsun: for the record, august 11th will be before the published date of the next UWN [03:26] Anybody feel like looking at my other three merges? [03:26] TheMuso: i can download stuff here, no problem, if you want it burned and given to you at some point. [03:27] TheMuso: assuming it's an iso that's on the unmetered site :P [03:27] Hobbsee: Nah thats fine. I have access to quota free mirrors as well, which carry just about all ubuntu stuff. [03:27] TheMuso: ah nice :) [03:27] And I keep up to date with the latest CDs using rsync. [03:27] ye [03:27] p [03:27] So it doesn't take too much quota. [03:29] /c [03:31] any interesting apps uploaded in the past 2 days? [03:32] *cough* xen *cough* [03:32] interesting, he said [03:32] ajmitch, hahah. === zul smacks ajmitch [03:32] shut up you [03:33] friendly chap [03:33] hehe.. [03:33] zul: what interesting has happened/will happen this week in xen development [03:33] ? === welshbyte [n=welshbyt@cpc3-cwma2-0-0-cust276.swan.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:33] we will have amd64 versions [03:34] eventually :) [03:34] once i upload it [03:34] package seems sorted now [03:34] ok, very cool [03:34] ping me when those go up [03:34] leaving me to my own devices is dangerous :) === ajmitch shuts up [03:35] yeah...perv [03:35] hah [03:37] o oh [03:37] ubuntu+1 [03:37] we know [03:37] ok === nalioth [i=nalioth@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nalioth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon_ [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nalioth [i=nalioth@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nalioth] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === poningru [n=poningru@pool-72-64-214-4.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:54] hi can I bother someone with some pbuilder help? [03:54] first time fixing some bugs [03:56] Fujitsu: ping , you MOL ftbs , here is my build.log if you wanna look at it http://pastebin.ca/122986 [03:56] s/you/your === elkbuntu [n=melissa@203-206-255-153.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:57] nm === bddebian [n=bdefrees@66.251.77.226] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:58] moins bddebian [03:58] Heya gang [03:58] poningru: whats the problem ? [03:58] Hi imbrandon === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:02] oops. === Hobbsee notes that batteries really do eventually run out of juice. [04:03] lol [04:05] Hi Hobbsee [04:05] hi bddebian [04:07] heh === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:28] so the question I had was how to edit the .diff.gz and put it back? [04:28] still looking [04:29] Why do you want to edit the diff.gz instead of rebuilding the source package with the change? [04:29] oh... [04:29] nm [04:30] bddebian: its just a two line fix and would be much easier to do that way === poningru is currently bugfixing [04:30] Ah, nice [04:31] it's better (easier too, IMO) to rebuild the source package [04:31] because you also need a changelog entry === micahcowan [n=micahcow@69.36.252.2] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:32] well its a bug in the postinstall script [04:32] not in the prog itself [04:33] bug 55706 [04:33] Malone bug 55706 in python-uncertainities "python-uncertainities python2.3/2.4 breakage." [Untriaged,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/55706 [04:33] Is it using the new python policy? :-) [04:33] right, but you still need a changelog entry [04:33] micahcowan: did you get my email regarding the time of the MOTU School session? [04:34] Heya LaserJock [04:34] bddebian: hi [04:34] LaserJock: nice time :) [04:34] 11am :) [04:35] Hobbsee: not like you need to attend === bddebian does [04:35] Hi ajmitch [04:35] ajmitch: oh i dont know, it could be interesting. [04:35] What's it covering? === elkbuntu [n=melissa@203-206-255-153.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:35] LaserJock, oh, haven't checked. I'll do now. [04:36] Fujitsu: how to be a package master [04:36] haha thats a session that I will actually be able to make this tim. [04:36] time [04:36] where LaserJock details his skills [04:36] ajmitch: yikes, or lack thereof [04:36] I'm a little worried [04:36] why? [04:36] I've got like 3 presentations to do this week [04:37] 2 for ubucon and then the MOTU School one [04:37] LaserJock, oh, right. -7 because of daylight savings, right? [04:37] micahcowan: yeah [04:37] ubucon? [04:37] thanks [04:37] ubucon ? [04:37] Fujitsu: did you see my note about the FTBS ? [04:37] and that'd be Thursday night for me. [04:38] imbrandon, I did. [04:38] micahcowan: me too ;-) [04:38] ok, makin sure , i was switching clients so i dident have time to look at my logs [04:38]