[12:01] <Intangir> AAA: gonna need more info than that..
[12:01] <ziottt> if I wanted to write on my second ntfs disk where I keep data, how can I do that? ..in the first one I've got two OS
[12:01] <HeXiOn> Warbo: ok, changed line so it's now [Option      "DPMS" "false"] 
[12:01] <AAA> Intangir  make your key, don't set a password and on the box you want to get in edit your ~/.ssh/authorizedkeys2 file to add that key
[12:01] <mournahan> "sudo gdm restart" dosnt work any ideas
[12:01] <Warbo> !fuse
[12:01] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[12:01] <HeXiOn> Warbo: thank you very much :)
[12:01] <incandenza> Intangir: ssh-keygen -t dsa, then copy ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the other side
[12:02] <Intangir> incandenza: k thx
[12:02] <ziottt> in phase of sperimentation then
[12:02] <gatekeeper> ziottt, there are howto's on the ubuntu forums
[12:02] <ziottt> ok k
[12:02] <justin420> hi all. i was wondering if anybody could help with getting a linksys wpc54gx version 2 working possibly without using ndiswrapper; the ap has wpa enabled. ive tried using ndiswrapper and wpa_supplicant on a debian box, and could see the ap but could not connect to it. even after disabling wpa i still could not connect. :(
[12:02] <Intangir> also i have another question about ssh, i am sshing into two different machines behind a firewall, on 2 different ports
[12:02] <Intangir> one is 22 ,and a 23
[12:02] <Intangir> both have the same IP though
[12:02] <Intangir> so when i try to log into one or the other, it complains about its rsa key being different than my known hosts
[12:02] <Intangir> and i have to deleted my known hosts for it to work..
[12:03] <AAA> Intangir  you don't have to, the server listens on 22 but creates connection elsewhere, you dont' need to run 2 instances of sshd
[12:03] <Intangir> AAA: they are on two seperate machines, behind a single router
[12:03] <HeXiOn> Warbo: one last issue.. to make changes at xorg.conf work, I have to restart X or the machine?
[12:03] <Renan_s2> HeXiOn, only X
[12:03] <HeXiOn> ok
[12:03] <owen_> i added this line /dev/hdb7       /home/owen/Shared ext3  defaults        0       0 to my fstab, and now its not even showing the partition
[12:03] <HeXiOn> thanks everybody for your help
[12:03] <HeXiOn> bye ;)
[12:04] <Warbo> HeXiOn: Just X (either ctrl-alt-backspace or sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart <- do that from a console, since the process will die in X before it can ressurect itself)
[12:04] <AAA> Intangir  that usually happens when you change the name of the host or the ip of the node you are connecting from
[12:04] <incandenza> Intangir: put "CheckHostIP no" in /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[12:05] <Tonren> OK guys.  Photoshop in Linux. Is it possible?
[12:05] <Warbo> Tonren: Yes. Crossover office will do it for sure. WINE may do it for free
[12:06] <sb> especially since crossover office is wine
[12:06] <Warbo> sb: Yeah, but they focus on certain applications like Word, Photoshop, Flash, etc.
[12:06] <salah> is there a way to find out what the temperature of the CPU is?
[12:06] <Tonren> Warbo: Any hints on what kind of headaches I'm setting myself up for when I run setup.exe with Wine?
[12:06] <incandenza> salah: check out the lm-sensors package
[12:06] <Renan_s2> Tonren, it works, but doesn't work well...
[12:07] <Renan_s2> Photoshop 7.0 runs, but I had no luck with Photoshop CS2
[12:07] <Tonren> Renan_s2: Cool, 7.0 is the one I have the installer for
[12:07] <Tonren> Renan_s2: Is it just really slow?
[12:07] <salah> incandenza, I always get the answers, and I always install the package, but I never find out how to see the temperature
[12:07] <Tonren> Renan_s2: I'd use GIMP, but I've been working with Photoshop for 6 years.  IT would be stupid.
[12:07] <Warbo> Tonren: Well I usually give up on something if it doesn't work right away in Wine (unless it has a .cab file, I would then look in there for another exe). I have no idea how to debug Wine so I don't even try
[12:07] <Renan_s2> Tonren, it is slow and some features don't work well
[12:07] <Tonren> Renan_s2: Nuts...
[12:07] <ravenous> check out gimpshop
[12:08] <Renan_s2> those days I prefer GIMP, however.
[12:08] <Tonren> ravenous: Whaaa?
[12:08] <Warbo> Flash MX runs VERY slow in Wine. I couldn't get MX 2004 or 8 to install at all
[12:08] <kaatil> okay.. i didnt know that GAIM can use IRC thing. heh
[12:08] <ravenous> Tonren: gimp with all the tools and stuff made to look as close to photoshop as possible
[12:08] <kaatil> hi all.
[12:08] <Warbo> (the trials only. I just wanted the standalone flash players :) )
[12:08] <|BLaDE|> ola
[12:08] <incandenza> salah: if it's installed properly, you just type 'sensors'
[12:08] <Tonren> ravenous: Ooo.
[12:08] <ravenous> Tonren: finding the link one sec
[12:09] <ravenous> Tonren: gimpshop.net
[12:09] <gershon> cant see no fonts in wings3d!
[12:09] <krimzon> is there any way to get the livecd to connect to a wpa-psk network?
[12:09] <kaatil> i dunno why PICIMA(whatever it is called) show it is failed.. but i assumed it is for laptop(which i dont have.. it just a computer PC desktop. :))
[12:09] <Renan_s2> kaatil, you mean PCMCIA, and yes, it is for laptops.
[12:09] <Warbo> Tonren: Trouble is, Windows breeds a userbase of consumers happy to spend their cash. Linux users start to question whether they should
[12:09] <kaatil> how to remove it? Renan
[12:09] <Renan_s2> kaatil, I don't know
[12:09] <kaatil> from bother to check it of course. :)
[12:10] <kaatil> ok thanks
[12:10] <odla> flock is so awesome
[12:10] <FurryNemesis> odla, superseeds firefox or just good to use alongside?
[12:11] <Tonren> Warbo:  I know... I've been evangelizing Linux as much as possible lately
[12:11] <cyanics> !screen
[12:11] <ubotu> screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[12:11] <ravenous> has anyone here actually installed a pcf font? ive followed the wiki and still have no luck
[12:11] <odla> FurryNemesis: it's different, but in many respects superseeds...try it :)
[12:11] <Tonren> Warbo: Yesterday we couldn't get my friend's ancient VooDoo3 graphics card working with Ubuntu, so he gave up and went back to Windows.  :\
[12:11] <Tonren> Warbo: Ubuntu is SO close to being a Winkiller.
[12:11] <FurryNemesis> odla, tried the beta ages ago, has it improved?
[12:11] <Renan_s2> in fact, I killed Windows here :)
[12:11] <kaatil> get nvidia card.. i hear there is 4000 series that are cheap like 50 dollars to buy
[12:12] <kaatil> from walmart... at least for me :)
[12:12] <odla> FurryNemesis: i don't know..it's still in beta :p
[12:12] <FurryNemesis> voodoo 3's still exist?!
[12:12] <FurryNemesis> odla, after 8 months?
[12:12] <kaatil> i have voodoo 3 still in my old video card box... cute.
[12:12] <odla> FurryNemesis: yup
[12:12] <Warbo> Tonren: I like Free Software, and I like to support it. GIMP is great, as is Inkscape, but I still forked out some cash for Moho, simply because the only Free alternative (Synfig) seems quite pathetic to me
[12:12] <ravenous> ive got a voodoo3 sitting in a box as well
[12:13] <Warbo> (Moho and Synfig is animation software)
[12:13] <Tonren> Warbo: Moho?
[12:13] <Tonren> Ahh.
[12:13] <kaatil> moho?
[12:13] <|BLaDE|> i just installed ubuntu
[12:14] <Intangir> incandenza: it still complains: RSA host key for intangir has changed and you have requested strict checking.
[12:14] <Intangir> Host key verification failed.
[12:14] <FurryNemesis> damned, that's some serious betaing
[12:14] <kaatil> which is nemesis?
[12:14] <incandenza> Intangir: set 'StrictHostKeyChecking no'
[12:15] <Tonren> Hey guys, what's a good, fast, low-resource quick single MP3 player for Ubuntu?  No library management, cross-fading, etc.  Just a quick MP3 player.
[12:15] <Renan_s2> Tonren, XMMS
[12:15] <Warbo> XMMS
[12:15] <Warbo> !info xmms
[12:15] <mopflite> Tonren: I like and use xmms
[12:15] <ubotu> xmms: Versatile X audio player. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.2.10+cvs20050809-4ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 1029 kB, installed size 7256 kB
[12:15] <kaatil> !info apache2
[12:15] <ubotu> apache2: next generation, scalable, extendable web server. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.0.55-4ubuntu2.1 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 80 kB
[12:15] <Tonren> Nice, thanks guys
[12:15] <ravenous> beep's better than xmms and is the same style but doesnt use nasty gtk1
[12:15] <kaatil> !apache
[12:15] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[12:15] <Tonren> !beep
[12:15] <ubotu> I know nothing about beep - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:16] <ravenous> !info beep-media-player
[12:16] <ubotu> beep-media-player: Versatile audio player that supports Winamp skins. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.9.7.1+cvs20050803-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 831 kB, installed size 3592 kB
[12:16] <Warbo> Beep seems to repel me for some reason. I have no idea why
[12:16] <kaatil> lamp = linux-apache-mysql? interesting.
[12:16] <Aluvia> can anyone here please list the different text editor opening commands that can be issues through an X terminal?
[12:16] <kaatil> i thought lamp was something else. :D
[12:16] <Intangir> incandenza: it still complains, says remote host identification has changed
[12:16] <Sephiroth> Can somebody help me with my Siemens Gigaset PCI Card 54? Please query me...
[12:16] <Renan_s2> kaatil, Linux-Apache-PHP/Python/Perl-MySQL
[12:16] <lucasvo> anybody can tell me where I can order huge quantities of ubuntu cd's and tshirts?
[12:16] <Intangir> incandenza: complains of man in middle attack, disables password authentication
[12:16] <ravenous> i dont see how its exactly like xmms but is actually up to date
[12:16] <kaatil> ok thanks renan
[12:16] <lucasvo> I need them for softwarefreedomday
[12:16] <Tonren> Renan_s2: What compatibility options do you run Photoshop 7 with in winecfg?
[12:17] <Renan_s2> Tonren, I don't run Photoshop :|
[12:17] <incandenza> Intangir: erease the known_hosts
[12:17] <Tonren> Oh, it wasn't you
[12:17] <Warbo> I heard Beep has been discontinued, as has it's fork BMPx. But there is another fork somewhere which is still being developed
[12:17] <Tonren> Who was it that ran photoshop?
[12:17] <Intangir> oh weird, i set the keys up on this one so it let me in
[12:17] <Intangir> even after half a screen of error spam
[12:17] <Subhuman> Tonren, you tried "gimpshop"
[12:17] <ravenous> xmms was discontinued a looong time ago
[12:17] <kaatil> well i could bother to install old fashioned photoshop 5.
[12:17] <Tonren> Subhuman: I haven't tried it yet, actually
[12:17] <Warbo> ravenous: Because it achieved perfection :)
[12:17] <Subhuman> Tonren, how seriously do you use photoshop? if you dont require cymk and shit and you dont want to buy pixel, use gimp or gimpshop
[12:18] <Aluvia> does anyone know what basic text editors are available?
[12:18] <ravenous> Warbo: haha, yah, right
[12:18] <] GoldenDragon> hmm.. how do you boot off of an external harddrive?
[12:18] <Intangir> incandenza: thx,
[12:18] <Intangir> gotta go
[12:18] <ravenous> if gtk1 is perfection someone please shoot me
[12:18] <incandenza> Intangir: np
[12:18] <Aluvia> I need to know the x-terminal commands
[12:18] <Warbo> Aluvia: Depends how basic. Text based would be nano, graphical would be Gedit
[12:18] <Subhuman> Tonren, or buy pixel, itz pretty awesome - http://www.kanzelsberger.com/pixel/?page_id=12
[12:18] <Warbo> ] GoldenDragon: Does your PC support USB booting?
[12:18] <Tonren> Subhuman: I have over six years of Photoshop experience.  It's second nature to me.  I almost literally can't use GIMP.
[12:19] <Tonren> Subhuman: I'm a graphic designer, and I don't have six years to re-learn GIMP.
[12:19] <Subhuman> Tonren, gimpshop hacks the gimp UI to make it identical to PS
[12:19] <Tonren> Subhuman: Does it really have the same functionality?
[12:19] <ravenous> he's got the link
[12:19] <Tonren> Subhuman: Because if it does, I'd be happy to try it out.  But I really do NEED Photoshop.
[12:19] <Subhuman> umm not identical - but like i said - it depends how seriously you use it.
[12:19] <Renan_s2> GIMP is almost like Photoshop.
[12:19] <Subhuman> i cant use gimp
[12:19] <Subhuman> thats why i use pixel
[12:19] <Warbo> GIMP does the same job, but in a different way
[12:19] <lucasvo> !shipti
[12:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about shipti - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:19] <lucasvo> !shipit
[12:19] <ubotu> shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org
[12:19] <cavediver> Hi
[12:20] <Subhuman> but before gimpshop did it pretty well
[12:20] <Subhuman> !gimpshop
[12:20] <Tonren> Warbo: I know; and I don't have the time to learn its different way.  :\
[12:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about gimpshop - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:20] <cavediver> How do i install pygtk ?
[12:20] <ravenous> has anyone here actually installed a pcf font? ive followed the wiki and still have no luck
[12:20] <Tonren> Subhuman: What is Pixel, exactly...?
[12:20] <Tonren> !pixel
[12:20] <cavediver> seems not to be in the repos
[12:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about pixel - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:20] <azcazandco> hello everyone, I have just tried to install xgl but have gotten something wrong, I followed the tutorial here http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Xgl-Compiz-Dapper but I now get the following error when I try to run fglrxinfo: fglrxinfo: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:20] <Warbo> Tonren: I was backing you up actually :)
[12:20] <azcazandco> looks like I have killed my video drivers
[12:20] <Tonren> Warbo: Hehe, sorry, I seem to have a few conversatoin threads going here
[12:20] <Subhuman> Tonren, like a cheap PS alternative, basically the same functionality, runs on anything, and only costs 25 dollars or so.
[12:20] <Tonren> Dammit... Photoshop won't run.
[12:20] <cry0gen> hmm
[12:21] <Warbo> ] GoldenDragon: Does your PC support USB booting? (Mine doesn't so I made a boot CD, and wrote a Wiki page)
[12:21] <cry0gen> Sits at 22gnome_panel_data for a few seconds now
[12:21] <Subhuman> Tonren, check i t out here - http://www.kanzelsberger.com/pixel/?page_id=12 - i need photo manip enough to justify buying it.
[12:21] <Warbo> cry0gen: You don't have dd?!
[12:21] <Tonren> Subhuman: I'll check it out.  I think I'm going to have to end up dual booting, though.
[12:21] <azcazandco> Subhuman: I have just bought pixel and still find it hard to use
[12:21] <Subhuman> and i like it, not too far deom ps.
[12:21] <cry0gen> Warbo: no
[12:21] <|BLaDE|> what do you guys recommend, for running windows apps like macromedia on ubuntu ?
[12:21] <addka> Hello? I am after Linux or ubuntu
[12:21] <cry0gen> not DD the copy util
[12:21] <cry0gen> Dapper Drake
[12:21] <cry0gen> :P
[12:21] <Subhuman> azcazandco, i dont think itz too bad.
[12:21] <azcazandco> Tonren: I am trying really hard to avoid it
[12:21] <azcazandco> dual booting that is
[12:22] <devhen> Blade: i recommend you find a linux-native replacement program
[12:22] <cry0gen> it's stuck at 82%
[12:22] <Warbo> cry0gen: I was trying to think what alternative it could be (Dungeons and Dragons maybe :) )
[12:22] <Dan_> I broke grun
[12:22] <cry0gen> and just sitting taking it's time
[12:22] <Dan_> grub
[12:22] <Tonren> azcazandco: Me too... but Photoshop is the ONLY thing keeping me.  I've even gotten my favorite games (Cave Story, Starcraft and Jedi Academy) to run in Linux.
[12:22] <Subhuman> Tonren, if you REALLY need cs2 features etc. then yes dual boot or virtual machine is your only way really.
[12:22] <Dan_> how do I fix it
[12:22] <devhen> Blade: if your talking about dreamweaver, you should checkout bluefish
[12:22] <odla> ah flickr only gives you 21mb of upping space?  lame
[12:22] <|BLaDE|> devhen-> i started using ubuntu for the first time today
[12:22] <kaatil> i am waiting for adobe flash to come out soon.
[12:22] <azcazandco> Tonren: I am a web developer and am having masive issues with tiem spent trying to relearn
[12:22] <kaatil> the lastest version or whatever it is
[12:22] <Tonren> Subhuman: I'm interested in VMing.  I haven't been able to find a cogent tutorial anywhere, though.  Is it a wise choice, or is it too slow?
[12:22] <ravenous> kaatil: your gonna be waiting
[12:22] <azcazandco> I could've paid for adobe several time sover shortly ;-)
[12:22] <kaatil> yeah :D
[12:22] <kaatil> heh
[12:22] <cry0gen> haha
[12:22] <Tonren> azcazandco: Me too.  Actually, one of the big reasons I moved to Linux is because I can run a LAMP server on my dev box.
[12:23] <cry0gen> installer locked up
[12:23] <Subhuman> Tonren, don't know, ive never done it personallu.
[12:23] <ravenous> first quarter 07 is what they 'claim'
[12:23] <|BLaDE|> devhen-> i use 3 macromedia products...not realy lookin for an alternative to that
[12:23] <TooSad> hi
[12:23] <kaatil> first quarter huh? interesting
[12:23] <Warbo> |BLaDE|: WINE runs Windows programs. If they work at all then they will be slow. There are some more polished versions of WINE available for a price: Crossover Office for productivity apps, and Cedega for games
[12:23] <Verifeye> lo
[12:23] <addka> toosad hi
[12:23] <azcazandco> Tonren: I am trying the vmware thing but getting lost, got a copy of phtoshop 6 but it wont run under wine in dapper
[12:23] <kaatil> DIABLO dont work with wine very well.. pfft
[12:23] <Tonren> azcazandco: I just this very second got an error trying PS 7 in Dapper
[12:23] <Tonren> azcazandco: I'm bug-reporting it now
[12:24] <kaatil> it ask for cd which i already has cd in the cd-rom. bah
[12:24] <addka> will delablo run on a p3
[12:24] <devhen> |BLaDE|: if you use macromedia products exclusively you will most likely have difficulty switching to linux.
[12:24] <TooSad> i can't use the ace file, but i have installed unace
[12:24] <ravenous> thats a wine issue not ubuntu
[12:24] <TooSad> why?
[12:24] <Warbo> addka: Diablo? (the game?)
[12:24] <|BLaDE|> Warbo-> how slow are we talkin?
[12:24] <kaatil> yes. diablo is a game
[12:24] <addka> I just installed Ubutu on this machine but XP run faster
[12:24] <|BLaDE|> devhen-> wow..so i should rather run some sort of duel-boot setup then
[12:24] <devhen> |BLaDE|: if you /rely/ on macromedia programs you must also /rely/ on the OS's that macromedia runs on
[12:24] <kaatil> why's that. addka
[12:24] <azcazandco> so can nayone help me with this xgl thing?
[12:25] <ravenous> and?
[12:25] <ravenous> you came to complain?
[12:25] <cry0gen> azcazandco: I could in a bit.
[12:25] <cry0gen> Just let me re-install.
[12:25] <devhen> |BLaDE|: which programs do you use?
[12:25] <Warbo> |BLaDE|: I tried a trial of Flash MX on my AMD 2000+, 256MB RAM. I ran it for about 5 minutes, but that was only because I was determined to draw a smiley face
[12:25] <azcazandco> cry0gen: thanks
[12:25] <fluke777> Hi all sorry I know this is probably stupid question but i ve been searching last 30 minutes and didnt find what i was looking for how can I get list of filws whixh get installed in certain package?
[12:25] <azcazandco> how long u think you will be?
[12:25] <kaatil> heh warbo
[12:25] <azcazandco> 30mins or so?
[12:25] <addka> No came to find out if thieir is a better os for a P3 220Mb ram only 8mb v ram
[12:26] <|BLaDE|> devhen-> fireworks/dreamweaver/flash 8/ and exploring Cold fusion
[12:26] <Warbo> addka: XFCE, Fluxbox, E16, TWM, WindowMaker, there are loads of high-speed low-resource window managers you can install to improve performance
[12:26] <azcazandco> tonren: I think pixel could be a very good app in future
[12:26] <cry0gen> cold fusion is shitty.
[12:26] <cry0gen> Plain and simple.
[12:26] <Tonren> azcazandco: Cool.  I'll look int oit.
[12:26] <azcazandco> i bought it coz the conversion rate for money was good
[12:26] <cry0gen> Tonren: same.
[12:26] <addka> how do I get them?
[12:26] <cry0gen> got my trusty G5 to my right
[12:26] <gnomefreak> !offtopic
[12:26] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:26] <cry0gen> and vim to my left.
[12:27] <Warbo> !info enlightenment
[12:27] <ubotu> enlightenment: The Enlightenment Window Manager. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1:0.16.7.2-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 380 kB, installed size 980 kB
[12:27] <Warbo> !info fluxbox
[12:27] <ubotu> fluxbox: Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.9.14-2 (dapper), package size 720 kB, installed size 2288 kB
[12:27] <Warbo> !info windowmaker
[12:27] <ubotu> Package windowmaker does not exist in dapper
[12:27] <Warbo> etc.
[12:27] <ravenous> send it to him jeez
[12:27] <Warbo> dammin, windowmaker doesn't exist
[12:27] <gnomefreak> Warbo: wmaker?
[12:27] <Tonren> !info wmaker
[12:27] <ubotu> wmaker: NeXTSTEP-like window manager for X. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.92.0-5 (dapper), package size 2220 kB, installed size 6104 kB
[12:27] <Warbo> gnomefreak: Probably, but didn't want to go fishing :)
[12:27] <Tonren> Yep
[12:27] <ravenous> has anyone here actually installed a pcf font? ive followed the wiki and still have no luck.. anyone?
[12:27] <Tonren> ravenous: WHat is a pcf font...?
[12:28] <ravenous> Tonren: the filetype
[12:28] <devhen> dual booting OSX, ubuntu, do I need to install OS X first or can I install ubuntu first?
[12:28] <Warbo> addka: You can install them with the regular package management tools, then select them before you login
[12:28] <TooSad> notte a tutti
[12:28] <Tonren> azcazandco: What d you think holds Pixel back right now?
[12:28] <Warbo> !synaptic > addka
[12:28] <gnomefreak> devhen: install macosx first but either way its gonna use yaboot
[12:28] <gumpish> Trying to navigate to a dir owned by root, getting the following..   sudo: cd: command not found
[12:28] <gnomefreak> !it > Tonren
[12:28] <Warbo> gumpish: No need to use cd as sudo
[12:28] <addka> This is my first try of this software or os
[12:29] <azcazandco> isnt finished, I guess i am still getting used to not having posished interfaces and fonts in linux which is why I was trying to get xgl and compiz installed
[12:29] <gumpish> -bash: cd: ossec/: Permission denied
[12:29] <Tonren> gnomefreak: .... i. .italian....?
[12:29] <azcazandco> posished = polished
[12:29] <gnomefreak> Tonren: sorry auto complete
[12:29] <devhen> gnomefreak: no grub?
[12:29] <Tonren> gnomefreak: hahaha
[12:29] <azcazandco> Tonren: how long you been in linux?
[12:29] <asdfjkl> when i make changes to alacarte nothing gets changed in menu, anyone else having similar problems
[12:29] <gnomefreak> devhen: not with mac iirc
[12:29] <micahcowan> gumpish, read-permissions issue, more than likely.
[12:30] <Tonren> azcazandco: About 9 months with Ubuntu.  I got Debian running about a year ago and I hated it, but I like Ubuntu.
[12:30] <krimzon> pleeease can someone help me get my livecd to connect to my wireless network?
[12:30] <gumpish> ...
[12:30] <mwe> ravenous: to install a pcf font I think you just need to put it somewhere in the X font path then possibly restart X
[12:30] <devhen> gnomefreak: can I install ubuntu first, setting aside a partition for OS X, and then tell OS X to install to that part?
[12:30] <micahcowan> gumpish, you can't do sudo cd
[12:30] <micahcowan> cd isn't a binary: it's built into bash.
[12:30] <Tonren> krimzon: Getting Ubuntu to work with wireless tends to require downloading and installing files, which I don't think you can do from the Live CD... I could be wrong, but you may be hosed without a lot of work.
[12:30] <micahcowan> do sudo -i and then cd into the dir, if you need to.
[12:30] <ravenous> mwe: trust me its not that easy, followed the wiki to a T and a few other instructions with no luck
[12:30] <asdfjkl> when i make changes to alacarte nothing gets changed in the menu, anyone else having similar problems
[12:30] <azcazandco> Tonren: yeah ubuntu is nice
[12:30] <addka> where is the best place to re search ubuntu for a new user?
[12:30] <gnomefreak> devhen: you can do it either way you like but i havent played with a mac in years
[12:31] <micahcowan> gumpish, then hit Ctrl-D when you're done being root.
[12:31] <gumpish> thanks.
[12:31] <mwe> ravenous: I see
[12:31] <azcazandco> I am sucking bandwidth with apps all the time though
[12:31] <Warbo> addka: help.ubuntu.com/community is good
[12:31] <Kittiah> Guys, how do I use a .run file?
[12:31] <azcazandco> ./filename.run
[12:31] <ravenous> regardless the dir, doing mkfontdir, xset fp rehash, X refuses to see it
[12:31] <mwe> ravenous: what wiki though?
[12:31] <gnomefreak> Kittiah: sh file.run
[12:31] <krimzon> hmm... will it even work if i installed it?
[12:31] <azcazandco> make sure to chmod =x first
[12:31] <ravenous> mwe: the one the !fonts bang gives
[12:31] <addka> thanks i will check it out
[12:31] <Warbo> Kittiah: Make sure it is executable with "chmod u+x filename.run" then "./filename.run"
[12:31] <azcazandco> cmod+x even
[12:32] <azcazandco> argh... chmod +x
[12:32] <asdfjkl> when i make changes to alacarte nothing gets changed in the menu, anyone else having similar problems
[12:32] <Warbo> !patience > asdfjkl
[12:32] <azcazandco> Warbo: you out non typo'd me by miles there lol
[12:32] <Warbo> :)
[12:33] <|BLaDE|> will i be able to find the latest nvidia drivers in the repository ?
[12:33] <Polygon> Hello, i have a problem: i cant mount an audio cd (one that i bought ). It keeps saying Unable to mount the selected volume: Mount: block device /dev/hdd is write protected, mounting read only. Mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd, missing codepage or other error.
[12:33] <asdfjkl> when i make changes to alacarte nothing gets changed in the menu, anyone else having similar problems
[12:33] <Warbo> Audio CDs can't be mounted, they don't contain a filesystem
[12:33] <azcazandco> cry0gen: when are you reinstalling?
[12:33] <Blissex> Polygon: you can't mount audio CDs except in special ways, you can rip or play them with special programs.
[12:34] <Warbo> asdfjkl: Obviously not :)
[12:34] <Polygon> ah ok
[12:34] <Polygon> then that makes my life easier: :D thanks
[12:35] <|BLaDE|> will i be able to find the latest nvidia drivers in the repository ?
[12:35] <Warbo> !info nvidia-glx
[12:35] <ubotu> nvidia-glx: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver. In repository restricted, is optional. Version 1.0.8762+2.6.15.11-3 (dapper), package size 3963 kB, installed size 12240 kB
[12:35] <Warbo> |BLaDE|: Compare that to nvidia.com
[12:35] <Tonren> Can anyone tell me what kind of error this is?  I'm just trying to figure out what's going on... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20034
[12:36] <toni_> ubuntu-it
[12:36] <toni_> azz
[12:36] <toni_> sorry
[12:36] <mhz> hi all
[12:37] <mwe> ravenous: as far as I can tell from goole you just place you pcf font somewher in the X font path and run sudo mkfontdir in the directory. I think I remember doing this a while back
[12:37] <|BLaDE|> Warbo-> interesting ...thanx
[12:37] <Warbo> hey
[12:37] <asdfjkl> Does anyone know how to manually update the gnome menus?
[12:37] <ravenous> mwe: doesnt work
[12:37] <Warbo> asdfjkl: killall gnome-panel should do
[12:37] <Coruscant> can someone walk me through mp3
[12:37] <Warbo> !mp3 > Coruscant
[12:37] <Coruscant> i forgot again how to get them to play
[12:38] <asdfjkl> rephrase question: anyone know where the .desktop files are located?
[12:38] <ravenous> mwe: ive got in /usr/X11/lib/fonts, ~/.fonts, /usr/share/fonts, have run mkfontdir in all, restart X, nothing
[12:38] <mwe> ravenous: odd. you did the mkfontdir part as well? maybe restart X or xset +fp
[12:38] <cry0gen> !mp3
[12:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:38] <Warbo> asdfjkl: /usr/share/applications
[12:38] <ravenous> mwe: ive done xset fp rehash in every dir as well
[12:38] <Coruscant> thanks
[12:38] <mhz> In Dapper, I have tried setting wpa_supplicant following Wiki howto (for Breezy) but I still can't successfully achieved to connect this laptop to a WPA router (only wep's) Any suggestions or better URLs?
[12:39] <Warbo> !network-manager
[12:39] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager
[12:39] <mhz> Warbo: yup, I also installed 'nm'
[12:39] <mhz> I have nm-tool and nm-applet
[12:39] <Warbo> mhz: Also? I don't have it :)
[12:40] <mhz> oohh?
[12:40] <Warbo> I don't use any encryption
[12:40] <mhz> Warbo: apt says I do have network-manager installed
[12:40] <farous> mhz: you know that network manager only work with dynamic ip
[12:41] <Warbo> I have no idea how to use it (since I don't have it installed), all I know is that it can supposedly handle WPA
[12:41] <mhz> farous: oh, touche! no ide
[12:41] <mhz> a
[12:41] <asdfjkl> Warbo: thx
[12:42] <marl> hi can someone confirm that i have the following correct? i have an EPIA-M m/board with an SST39SF020A bios chip, along with an RD1-PL 2Mbit bios savour, are these both 2Mb chips? i have tried writing the RD! with a image file, but it always fails :( anyone any pointers?
[12:43] <Warbo> Capital "1", I do that a lot :) (shift+1!=capital 1)
[12:43] <marl> LOL yup
[12:44] <Blissex> marl: wrong channel really, try #hardware you may be luckier
[12:44] <Blissex> marl: however, just use the chip name to search in Google, it is highly selective.
[12:44] <marl> sorry, just relised LOL :( sorry again, had been jumpiong between channels
[12:44] <azcazandco> whoa... enlightenment is nuts
[12:44] <BenrightB4> i was told that i could cut down an .mpg file, but i am not sure what program i can use to do this... cutting it down? will this shorten the clip? can i choose wich parts to take out?
[12:44] <azcazandco> just took a look at it for the first time
[12:45] <Warbo> azcazandco: DR16 or DR17?
[12:45] <azcazandco> not sure
[12:45] <azcazandco> how do i check?
[12:45] <ravenous> if its out of the repos its 16
[12:45] <Warbo> azcazandco: Does it have animated backdrops and crazy shinying menu headers?
[12:46] <azcazandco> all i got was a tiny menu and no app menus
[12:46] <azcazandco> so i came back out of it
[12:46] <ravenous> its 16
[12:46] <azcazandco> got it out the repositories
[12:46] <azcazandco> liked the sliding desktops
[12:46] <BenrightB4> can anybody tell me what the command is to register this nick? is it "/nickserv register"?
[12:46] <Warbo> azcazandco: middle click>maintainance>regenerate menus
[12:46] <azcazandco> really wanna try and get xgl fixed
[12:46] <ravenous> none of the low end WMs are set up for you like gnome/kde .. xfce probably the most but flux/E are gonna have to be configured
[12:47] <farous> !register > BenrightB4
[12:47] <azcazandco> I killed something to do with opengl whilst trying to install it
[12:47] <farous> BenrightB4: /msg nickserv register do it in the server channel
[12:47] <BenrightB4> thanks farous
[12:47] <Tonren> Hey guys, should I uninstall GIMP before installing GIMPShop?
[12:47] <flaakmonkey> i forget but does Ubuntu already have some programs for python programming?
[12:47] <Warbo> BenrightB4: A video editor like LiVES or Cinelerra can chop up MPEGs, or you could even use VLC to stream it to a file, then skip the parts you don't want and they won't get written
[12:48] <azcazandco> Tonren: good luck
[12:48] <azcazandco> i failed at that
[12:48] <Warbo> !info idle
[12:48] <ubotu> idle: An IDE for Python using Tkinter (default version). In repository main, is optional. Version 2.4.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 7 kB, installed size 60 kB
[12:48] <farous> flaakmonkey: there are a couple
[12:48] <azcazandco> maybe i would have been happier in gimp
[12:48] <Tonren> azcazandco: Failed at installing gimpshop...?
[12:48] <recon0> Does anybody know a (not mini) golf game for linux?
[12:48] <azcazandco> yes
[12:49] <azcazandco> Tonren: have only been in ubuntu for 3 weeks
[12:49] <Tonren> azcazandco: ahh.
[12:49] <azcazandco> still finding ym feet
[12:49] <farous> flaakmonkey: i prefer spe and the eclipse plugin both are great.
[12:49] <azcazandco> everything is a hurdle
[12:49] <ravenous> is there a volume control program for cli?
[12:49] <Warbo> ravenous: alsamixer
[12:49] <FurryNemesis> has anyone here used a webcam sucessfully with ubuntu?
[12:49] <azcazandco> but I am willing to keep going
[12:49] <ravenous> thnx
[12:49] <Warbo> FurryNemesis: Yep
[12:49] <farous> !cam
[12:49] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[12:49] <kaatil> GAIM is java thing or C/C++?
[12:49] <recon0> Does anybody know a (not mini) golf game for linux? If so, could you tell me the name?
[12:50] <FurryNemesis> thanks people
[12:50] <farous> FurryNemesis: working perfect here out of the box :)
[12:50] <Warbo> C/C++ I think
[12:50] <Renan_s2> C/C++
[12:50] <ravenous> its not java thats for sure
[12:50] <kaatil> ok thx
[12:50] <Warbo> ravenous: That's what I was thinking
[12:50] <Tonren> Ugh.. does anyone know where I can find a copy of the GIMPShop .deb file?
[12:51] <ravenous> ive never seen one, gotta compile
[12:51] <recon0> !gimpshop
[12:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about gimpshop - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:51] <paotzu> what's up with gimpshop, seems to always crash on me... but I rarely ever have gimp crash
[12:51] <farous> Tonren: check it at packages.ubuntu.com
[12:51] <FurryNemesis> sweet, one more obstacle gone, one more thing learnt
[12:51] <farous> Tonren: if it is not there you might check it in an unofficial repos
[12:51] <Warbo> paotzu: GIMPShop doesn't get as much developer work as GIMP. I hear it is unstable
[12:51] <ravenous> gimpshop isnt in the repos packages.ubuntu.com isnt going to do anything
[12:51] <Tonren> farous: Nope, not there... I don't know of any unofficial repos.
[12:52] <Tonren> Gah, screw it... maybe I should just start learning GIMP.
[12:52] <azcazandco> Tonren: lemme know if you manage to do this
[12:52] <Warbo> apt-get.org lists Debian repos
[12:52] <Tonren> Six years of experience down the drain... do I really love Linux that much?  Hmm.
[12:52] <paotzu> gimp is ez, has a 1000 page manual and whatnot
[12:52] <|thunder> gimps not too hard to learn. try the tutorials on their home site
[12:52] <azcazandco> Tonren: know the feeling
[12:52] <Tonren> Maybe I should setup VMWare.. but is it worth it just for Photoshop?
[12:52] <farous> Tonren: i do what is not recommended here i check it at debian repos will not work for everything though
[12:52] <paotzu> you can run photoshop in wine... photoshop is overrated imho
[12:52] <azcazandco> |thunder: even text manipulation is hard when you come from yrs of photoshop
[12:53] <Tonren> paotzu: |thunder: I'm sure GIMP is a great program, but I have used Photoshop for so long that it's like another limb of my body.  I use it without thinking; it's second nature.  I really don't want to spend another six years getting to that point with another prog.
[12:53] <ravenous> newer photoshops dont run worth a crap in wine
[12:53] <recon0> Personally, I'm going to try to use GimpShop for some of my projects (runescape screenshot forging) and if it doesn't work I'll try regular gimp.
[12:53] <Tonren> ravenous: I got an X error when I tried running PS 7 just a few minutes ago.  I can't figure it out.
[12:53] <|thunder> i know the feeling guys. try gimpshop. its gimp dressed up like photoshop
[12:53] <|thunder> samew terminology and what not
[12:53] <ravenous> uh thats what we're talking about ;)
[12:53] <Tonren> |thunder: I'm willing to try GIMPShop, but I'm not willing to build it from source, and I can't find a .deb package anywhere.
[12:53] <|thunder> Tonren, i just read an article about that
[12:53] <Tsukino> weird.. my laptop runs cooler when I run from the Ubuntu Live CD
[12:53] <ToRTuReD_X> !ftp
[12:54] <azcazandco> so, any xgl heads here?
[12:54] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[12:54] <recon0> Tonren: I'll package it for you.
[12:54] <ravenous> why not compile it?
[12:54] <ToRTuReD_X> !gftp
[12:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about gftp - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:54] <Tonren> recon0: Thanks!
[12:54] <|thunder> Tonren, i have it on OSX. was a mac package
[12:54] <Warbo> I would just like to say that I really like the GIMP and it's interface :)
[12:54] <ravenous> !info gftp
[12:54] <ubotu> gftp: X/GTK+ FTP client. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.0.18-11ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 44 kB, installed size 76 kB
[12:54] <Tonren> ravenous: I am firmly of the opinion that I should be able to have a fully functional Linux box without compiling a damn thing from source.
[12:54] <ToRTuReD_X> i knew that
[12:54] <ToRTuReD_X> >_>
[12:54] <vbgunz> any one know why, sometimes the command line becomes garbled with erroneous text? sometimes after maximizing and restoring the gnome-terminal, the entire gnome-terminal screen becomes confused with garbled text everywhere and in order to continue, I'll need to 'clear' the screen... Anyone know what this problem is???
[12:54] <paotzu> I know, I like how in gimp you can right click on anything or go to the top menu
[12:54] <|thunder> #gimp-users would like to hear that
[12:54] <Tonren> ravenous: IMHO, compiling from source is an arcane, dated practice that no longer has context in the computing world.
[12:54] <ravenous> Tonren: thats tragic
[12:54] <sysdoc> IS GimpShop in the Ubuntu repos?
[12:55] <ravenous> Tonren: wow your not even using linux even close to its potential then, why bother leaving windows?
[12:55] <azcazandco> Tonren: wishful thinking...  I am just a newb and going through not hell but close to it
[12:55] <Warbo> Tonren: GIMPShop is new, relatively untested and unstable. No wonder you have to compile it, because it isn't finished!
[12:55] <paotzu> I think photoshop's whole 1 window with sub windows interface is geared at uh... windows... where you can't just switch desktops
[12:55] <|thunder> Tonren, unless you want all your apps compiled by your processor FOR your processor.   it'll me faster
[12:55] <|thunder> *be
[12:55] <Renan_s2> no, compiling software is not outdated; when you write a program, say, in C, you must compile it before using it
[12:55] <Tonren> ravenous: I'm using it just fine.  I have LAMP running fine, my entire code dev environment is going swimmingly.
[12:55] <Tonren> |thunder: I haven't experienced any speed loss as of yet.
[12:56] <ravenous> boy if i waited till a deb was out every time i wanted to use something i'd be waiting a long time
[12:56] <ravenous> hence your wait now for gimpshop
[12:56] <|thunder> thats because your not comparing it to a package speed.
[12:56] <recon0> tonren: give me a email. it might take about a day on average.
[12:56] <Tonren> ravenous: The thing is that you're supposed to compile from source so you don't have to reproduce the coder's runtime environment.  BUt compiling from source forces you to reproduce the coder's DEVELOPMENT environment, which is a stupid hassle.
[12:56] <azcazandco> ravenous: so you could help us compile this quite quickly then?
[12:56] <vbgunz> Tonren: its still good to learn how to build from source... i don't know it all and in fact far from it *but* like ravenous just said, it is way cool to have some basic building knowledge!
[12:56] <Tonren> recon0: You know, it's OK, I think I'm just going to dual boot, dude.  Don't go to the trouble.
[12:56] <recon0> Tonren: I'm practicing. I need it.
[12:57] <ToRTuReD_X> erm
[12:57] <Warbo> Basically upstream (program developers) is different to downstream (Ubuntu developers). That is why they have different names :)
[12:57] <paotzu> you guys are tripping anyway, there is totally a .deb for gimpshop
[12:57] <ravenous> *sigh* boy open source would be dead if everyone using linux had that same opinion about compiling
[12:57] <Tonren> vbgunz: I know exactly how to compile from source, and Ubuntu actually makes it easier with sudo apt-get build-dep [package name] .  I'm a coder.  I just think that the whole compile from source thing is stupid, and no one has given me a compelling argument to think otherwise.
[12:57] <mwe> ravenous: I wonder why it doesn't work when you install a pcf font provided you run the sudo mkfontdir in the directory afterwards.
[12:57] <ToRTuReD_X> i'm still using 5.04 because of my laziness, anyone know if the new repos still work for my version?
[12:57] <Tonren> ravenous: Why is that?
[12:57] <ravenous> mwe: i have no idea, its an enigma
[12:57] <azureal> hi, this question is about fonts: I made a directory in /usr/share/fonts/truetype, wrote mkfontdir <dir name> .. but i still cant get the font to be recognized...
[12:58] <vbgunz> Tonren: oh, I agree then and building from source should probably be left to those who wish to do some heavy customizing :)
[12:58] <azcazandco> paotzu: where?
[12:58] <odla> ToRTuReD_X: the new repos won't unless you upgrade
[12:58] <ravenous> Tonren: do you think  ubuntu got this way from someone clicking on .debs? delving into code, figuring it out and making it run on varios architectures is what its all about
[12:58] <Renan_s2> I sometimes compile programs to add patches or my own features
[12:58] <Tonren> ravenous: I don't disagree, but I'm NOT an Ubuntu developer, and I don't WANT to be.
[12:58] <|thunder> self compilation keeps code lean. you can compile in the things you need.
[12:58] <|thunder> like compiling xvid into ffMpeg
[12:58] <Tonren> ravenous: Maybe someday when I'm not just barely eking enough money to pay for college and I have the time
[12:58] <ToRTuReD_X> odla - using a live cd :P i need to backup some stuff before i format
[12:58] <Tonren> ravenous: But right now, I want my OS to work FOR me, not vice-versa.
[12:59] <ravenous> Tonren: i dont think linux is your answer then honestly, none of the distros 'just work'
[12:59] <mwe> ravenous: usually mv the pcf file to /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc. cd to the dir. sudo mkfontdir, xset fp rehash and it works. xlsfonts should confirm it's installed.
[12:59] <Tonren> ravenous: I never said that everyone should have my opinion.  I just think it's stupid that everyone should DISAGREE with my opinion for no readily apparent reason.
[12:59] <Tonren> ravenous: Ubuntu does.  That's why I'm here.
[12:59] <Warbo> Tonren: Windows only works on one architecture and one OS (itself), so binaries usually work. The same Free Software source code can be compiled to run on loads of different OSs on loads of different architectures (Linux, HURD, Free Net and OpenBSD, Haiku, AmigaOS, MorphOS, Darwin, MacOSX, UNIX, IRIX, HPUX, etc. running on x86, x86_64, PowerPC, MIPS, SPARC, CELL, Motorola68K, Alpha, etc.)
[12:59] <odla> ToRTuReD_X: ah..the dapper live cd?
[12:59] <ravenous> Tonren: yet your not using a program because its not precompiled
[12:59] <ToRTuReD_X> nope
[12:59] <ToRTuReD_X> 5.04 hoary
[12:59] <odla> ToRTuReD_X: you could always upgrade from hoary -> breezy -> dapper
[12:59] <ToRTuReD_X> i think o_O
[01:00] <p0le> apt-get -f install gives me >>>  dpkg: parse error, in file '/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 4298 package 'xserver-xorg-driver-s3virge': file details field 'size' not allowed in status file
[01:00] <paotzu> are you guys really arguing about compiling packages
[01:00] <p0le> how can i fix this
[01:00] <ToRTuReD_X> yeh but i ain't up for waiting 12 weeks for another free cd
[01:00] <Tonren> ravenous: I'm not saying that the developers of GIMPShop are limey bastards or anything.  I'm just saying that I don't even know how stable GIMPShop is, how good it is, or anything like that.  There's no reason for me to jump through hoops to get it running.
[01:00] <Toaster^> why don't I have "Shut down" and "Reboot" as options when I press "Quit..." in my menu??
[01:00] <odla> ToRTuReD_X: you have limited bandwidth?
[01:00] <Warbo> paotzu: I am just saying that it is not arcane
[01:00] <ToRTuReD_X> need to format today so i can get some business tax out of the way
[01:00] <ravenous> *shrug* whatever's clever
[01:00] <sysdoc> paotzu, lol
[01:00] <ToRTuReD_X> odla, 60gb
[01:00] <azcazandco> paotzu: i am a compling wimp, do you have a url for the gimpshop .deb?
[01:00] <Tonren> Warbo: You are probably touching on the one thing I don't understand about source distribution.  I'm constantly shocked by the variety of open source OSes out there, especially considering their market share in the PC world.
[01:00] <vptr> I have installed Ubuntu creating two multi-disk devices (software RAID-1). In the installer, I chose "physical raid volume" for all partitions before defining the MDs. Installation was successful and both drives are recognized with mdadm tools. What I _don't_ understand is why one partition (/dev/sdb1) shows up as FAT16. This screws up installing GRUB to /dev/sdb for redundancy.  Any idears?
[01:00] <ravenous> claiming you shouldnt have to ever compile something is going a long way though
[01:01] <mwe> p0le: I don't know how the file broke. maybe back it up and remove that line and retry
[01:01] <Warbo> Tonren: Give the source, people complain, give dozens of different binaries and people complain. Catch 22
[01:01] <p0le> mwe, i did and it gives me the same message on a different line
[01:01] <odla> ToRTuReD_X: well upgrading from hoary to breezy to dapper won't put you over that limit
[01:01] <|thunder> wow, look at that, right on the gimpshop front page. Download RPM
[01:01] <Tonren> ravenous: It's an unrealistic claim.  I'm conscious of that - but I think it should be a "goal" of Linux developers, because until an open source OS "just works", it will never have the user base and third party support it needs to make it a strong competitor against other OSes.
[01:01] <mwe> p0le: near the first one
[01:01] <mwe> p0le: ?
[01:01] <paotzu> azcazandco: oh I was tripping... there is an rpm package for it that some people have down alien on to make a deb.  You can get the same thing with the latest rpm and have it be more up to date.
[01:01] <vbgunz> Tonren: I believe Synaptic might be getting replaced by Smart package Manager. I also believe that SMP will build packages from source which might be the coolest thing to ever exist in the world of simply building something ... SMP is available now in the repos on Dapper and you can always check out the homepage...
[01:01] <Coruscant> ok since im not to linux smart i need to be walked through mp3s
[01:01] <ToRTuReD_X> yeh as i said problem is i'm using a LIVE cd and need to BACKUP before i format
[01:01] <Tonren> vbgunz: That might be the freaking sweetest thing ever.
[01:01] <Sir_Fawnpug> I'm curious to know whether or not ubunutu would make a good distro for mastering music.
[01:02] <sysdoc> azcazandco, type the first few letters of someones nick then clk tab to complete the name. That way it'll show up in red to the person your trying to talk to
[01:02] <azcazandco> so i need to get alien first?
[01:02] <azcazandco> sysdoc: thanks
[01:02] <Tonren> ravenous: One of the other big reasons I hate compiling from source is because it leaves dozens of dev libraries floating around on my hard drive that I'm never going to use again.
[01:02] <ravenous> apt-get will build packages from source as long as its in a repo
[01:02] <sysdoc> *press tab sorry
[01:02] <p0le> mwe, yes
[01:02] <ravenous> thats nothing new
[01:02] <Tonren> ravenous: I'm kind of obsessive-compulsive about what gets left on my computer, and I hate having "source build leftovers".
[01:02] <ompaul> ToRTuReD_X, to move do this sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop (or k/ed or whatever it is you use) then move one step at a time to the next version so then do a dist upgrade to 5.10 and and make sure you have the ubuntu-desktop in there and repeat that action (I can't remember why but do it just in case) then put in the ubuntu-desktop again and move to 6.06
[01:02] <Warbo> Tonren: Ubuntu "just works". You want GIMPShop, which is not part of Ubuntu, so therefore you are hacking it. And don't compare it to third party Windows apps, since that is like running them on WINE. If the developers directly supported Ubuntu then they would offer an Ubuntu deb, and then it would "just work"
[01:02] <Commander-Crowe> ~/join #linux-devel
[01:03] <mwe> p0le: maybe remove the entire entry for the package. I will think it's not installed then though. reinstall it to add the info back
[01:03] <vbgunz> Tonren: I am not sure but am 80% sure, it should not only build a package from source but is also able to get packages from a whole bunch of other systems too RPM included
[01:03] <|thunder> Tonren, http://freshmeat.net/projects/gimpshop/?branch_id=57360&release_id=192296
[01:03] <recon0> Tonren: I found the debian package. Want the link?
[01:03] <Tonren> Warbo: Oh, I'm aware.  I didn't mean to suggest that Ubuntu should "just work" with third-party software!  I'm asinine, but not THAT asinine.  XD
[01:03] <devhen> im running the 6.06 live CD on a G4 PowerBook and the mouse is SUUPER slow. any ideas?
[01:03] <Tonren> vbgunz: That's crazy badass.
[01:04] <ToRTuReD_X> !ntfs
[01:04] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[01:04] <Coruscant> Warbo how do you do it exactly?
[01:04] <p0le> mwe, i removed all the lines that are ^Size: and it worked
[01:04] <Warbo> Coruscant: Do what? Compile?
[01:04] <|thunder> devhen, system/prefs/mouse/motion/sensitivity
[01:04] <Tonren> recon0: Sure.
[01:04] <Coruscant> no get mp3s to play
[01:04] <vbgunz> Tonren: http://labix.org/smart
[01:04] <recon0> Tonren: OK. http://web.njit.edu/~st7/mirror/GIMPShop/gimpshop-2.2.11.deb
[01:04] <|BLaDE|> s
[01:04] <Tonren> recon0: After all this hollering and bellyaching, though, I think I may just end up compiling it from source.
[01:04] <mwe> p0le: oh. I wonder how it got there in the first place though
[01:04] <Warbo> Coruscant: Oh. Well it depends which player you are using
[01:04] <Coruscant> amarok
[01:04] <|thunder> ubotu, thx. I want access to my OSX hfs+ drive
[01:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about thx. I want access to my OSX hfs+ drive - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:05] <salah> incandenza, I get "No sensors found!" when trying lm-sensors
[01:05] <|thunder> haha
[01:05] <Tonren> recon0: Warbo made a good point, which is that GIMPShop is not "part of Ubuntu", which means I really can't expect the repositories to solve my problems for me like usual.
[01:05] <|thunder> im thanking a bot
[01:05] <incandenza> salah: yeah, you have to run sensors-detect and set it up
[01:05] <recon0> Tonren: meh.
[01:05] <Warbo> Coruscant: Go in System>Admin>Software Properties and add/enable Universe and Multiverse (community maintained/unofficial free and non-free) then install libxine-extracodecs
[01:05] <paotzu> I dunno, I don't even like gimpshop and I like both photoshop and gimp
[01:05] <Tonren> recon0: I appreciate your time, though.  Sorry to send you on whatever wild goose chase you just embarked.  :\
[01:05] <azcazandco> recon0: I am trying it
[01:05] <azcazandco> so thanks
[01:05] <Tonren> paotzu: Sigh... hehe, I think I'll just have to learn GIMP.
[01:05] <paotzu> to me the whole idea is a waste of time... having an interface that looks like photoshop to teach people how to use gimp
[01:05] <azureal> mwe: i think you tried to answer my question about fonts, but wrote 'ravenous' ... so I tried copying the .pcf.gz into /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc, mkfontdir .  ,but then xlsfonts does not return it
[01:06] <recon0> Tonren: actually, it was prominently displayed on the gimpshop front page.
[01:06] <vbgunz> Tonren: gimpshop by the way doesn't look like photoshop... it just has all the menus etc, reflect photoshop a bit better
[01:06] <Dremel> # Appears as Cg_kenny.http://www.uss-rangerguy.com/eags/cg_kenny.AVB
[01:06] <Tonren> recon0: I must have missed it.
[01:06] <Tonren> vbgunz: I think I'm just gonna learn GIMP.  It's the most straightforward solution here.
[01:06] <|thunder> paotzu, i prefer photoshop. but gimp works just fine. no need for gshop
[01:06] <recon0> Tonren: I'm gonna compile from source, too.
[01:06] <azureal> oh, nvm!!
[01:06] <Warbo> Tonren: Just to clarify my Windows apps point, Windows applications offer Windows setup.exe files, which would be like GIMPShop developers offering Ubuntu .debs. If a project doesn't supply Ubuntu .debs then it is like running a setup.exe in WINE
[01:06] <paotzu> I like photoshop better when it was mac only :P
[01:07] <mwe> azureal: did you mkfontdir after cd /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc and also xset fp rehash afterwards?
[01:07] <Dremel> (#G010E010M1) hey all!
[01:07] <nero_ch> hi
[01:07] <Warbo> (#randomstring) Hi!
[01:07] <Tonren> Warbo: I understand.  I still just don't grasp the point of compiling everything from source.  Will compiling something with your processor, FOR your processor (as someone said) REALLY make an app THAT much more stable and fast?
[01:07] <vbgunz> Tonren: I hated gimp the first time i tried it for something I thought should be stupidly simple... it turned out I needed to think a little different and i started breezing through it... mind you, I don't even do graphic art or anything... it's cool. enjoy!
[01:07] <azureal> mwe: i said, nvm!! =P thx
[01:07] <azcazandco> meh... dependancy issue on that deb
[01:07] <Dremel> (#G210E010M1) they always kill me but I show up next time ok
[01:07] <Tonren> Warbo: I spent two days getting amaroK to compile from source, and it crashed every 5 minutes.
[01:07] <recon0> @42
[01:08] <devhen> |thunder: its a bug with 6.06 and powerbook, here's the fix: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=5024.new
[01:08] <cr055>  /msg nickserv set email cr055@mchsi.com
[01:08] <Tonren> vbgunz: I'm sure I'll figure it out eventually.
[01:08] <recon0> cr055: welcome to spam world. population: you.
[01:08] <mwe> azureal: because it wont work if you sudo mkfontdir while $PWD is not the right dir. but ok. odd though
[01:08] <nathan_> devhen, set MinSpeed MaxSpeed AccelFactor in xorg.conf in the mouse section, 1.0 1.0 0.3 respectively
[01:08] <Tonren> recon0: i lol'd
[01:08] <cr055> got a quesition about xgl/compiz
[01:08] <Warbo> Tonren: Only some specific things like kernel (which is why there are 386, 686 and k7), and maybe stuff like Python interpreters. Unless you add crazy options to the compiler (which would be used in Ubuntu anyway, unless they make programs unstable) then there is not much point
[01:08] <cr055> can anyone help with that?
[01:08] <|thunder> devhen, ahh
[01:08] <nathan_> devhen, ignore me :)
[01:09] <Tonren> Warbo: I knew I wasn't insane.
[01:09] <|thunder> just ask cr055
[01:09] <mlalkaka> hi everyone
[01:09] <paotzu> hey anyone know the website for that xglubuntu thing
[01:09] <Coruscant> Warbo through terminal orr synaptic?
[01:09] <ompaul> !xgl
[01:10] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:10] <|thunder> if youve got a 32bit system. try automatix-bleeder for xgl/compiz
[01:10] <Warbo> Tonren: I compiled Amaork a few weeks ago. Worked fine, just that I prefer packages (the repo I tried for 1.4.1 didn't support libvisual0.4, and musicbrainz still doesn't support MP3 :( Maybe I will compile support in again)
[01:10] <Warbo> Coruscant: Installing packages can be done in any way, they are all just interfaces to APT and Dpkg
[01:10] <azcazandco> long day ahead
[01:10] <mlalkaka> how do i stop a certain kernel module (agpgart) from loading automatically [at start up] ? i already tried adding the line "blacklist agpgart" to the file "/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist", but it didn't work.
[01:10] <Tonren> Warbo: I got rid of amaroK long ago. I foudn it awfully bloated.  I use MPD/(G)MPC.
[01:10] <Tonren> Warbo: Just yesterday, I wrote my own script for handling playlists and jumping to songs.
[01:11] <Coruscant> i dont know how im new at linux Warbo
[01:11] <Warbo> Tonren: Ah, I found out about that recently. Never downloaded anything though, but I may give it a go
[01:11] <azcazandco> night folks
[01:11] <natalie> does anyone know how to restor GRUB and would be willing to help me
[01:11] <Tonren> Warbo: Between zenity, xbindkeys and some BASH voodoo, I have a pretty swanky setup now.  I basically have the same functionality as Winamp, now, only I get to tweak it to do exactly what I want
[01:11] <azcazandco> thansk for any help given
[01:11] <Tonren> Warbo: It's great.  Not very intuitive at first, but once you figure out where MPD ends and MPC begins, you can start rolling.  Also, if you're AT ALL into scripting, do MPD/MPC, because you WILL rock out.
[01:12] <Warbo> Coruscant: System>Admin>Synaptic. If you haven't added the repos then go Settings>Repositories and do it from there. Once they are added click Reload then search for libxine-extracodecs
[01:12] <Warbo> !info libxine-extracodecs
[01:12] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[01:12] <tuxtux> notte a tutti
[01:12] <Warbo> !grub
[01:12] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:12] <FurryNemesis> does anyone know of any issues with ubuntu not picking up shared graphics memory?
[01:13] <paotzu> I can't seem to get past downloading stuff off of happypenguin.org to get into any linux coding this summer
[01:13] <ToRTuReD_X> hmm
[01:13] <cr055> I am trying to follow the ubuntu guide but when I try to install the drivers for my nvidia 6800 gt card I get an error...  here are the steps I am taking...
[01:13] <ToRTuReD_X> does tar c dir/ | bzip2 > dir.tar.bz2 work with ubuntu?
[01:13] <cr055> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common
 sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[01:13] <ToRTuReD_X> and if so any ideas on further explaining it
[01:13] <cr055> i always get this...
[01:13] <|thunder> cr055, check your prv
[01:13] <recon0> mmm... GRUB.
[01:13] <Warbo> ToRTuReD_X: Looks correct to me
[01:13] <sb> tort sure, but tar cvjf is easier
[01:13] <profoX`> I have a friend with a 3com network card and he can't get a network connection anymore... on his laptop it works fine though.. but on windows xp / ubuntu live on his pc it doesn't get an ip from dhcp
[01:13] <cr055> Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[01:13] <cr055> This script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this
[01:13] <cr055> not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following
[01:13] <cr055> command:
[01:13] <cr055> md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum
[01:13] <cr055> otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section
[01:14] <cr055> from nv to nvidia.
[01:14] <mwe> FurryNemesis: I had to configure it manually in xorg.conf for y i855
[01:14] <|thunder> cr055, the awnser you seek is in your prv.
[01:14] <ompaul> !paste
[01:14] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:14] <ompaul> cr055, please read that last comment by ubotu
[01:14] <Warbo> cr055: Run "gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and search for "nv" and replace it with "nvidia" then save and you should be OK (restart X by logging out)
[01:15] <Coruscant> now Warbo do i need to reboot?
[01:15] <Warbo> Coruscant: No
[01:15] <paotzu> you guys tried Sparklet yet?
[01:15] <james__> is this the right chat to ask questions about Xubuntu?
[01:15] <Coruscant> ok hope it works let me test it now!
[01:15] <|thunder> paotzu, no, what is it ?
[01:16] <Warbo> james__: Probably, many people in here
[01:16] <ompaul> james__, there is a #xubuntu also
[01:16] <james__> thx
[01:16] <paotzu> It's a 2d town-down space shooter with opengl and internet
[01:16] <Warbo> 3D stuff has a habit of crashing my X :(
[01:16] <Coruscant> um no Warbo it still says i need the decoder
[01:16] <paotzu> runs on windows and linux... sweet game tho
[01:16] <Warbo> Coruscant: You are in Dapper (6.06 LTS)?
[01:16] <Coruscant> yep
[01:17] <Coruscant> just converted from winxp
[01:17] <|thunder> yay
[01:17] <seven11> me too!  =D
[01:17] <Warbo> Coruscant: Then Amarok uses the Xine engine, and the libxine-extracodecs contains, quite obviously, extra codecs for xine
[01:17] <Coruscant> i like winddows install way better though
[01:17] <sysdoc> Coruscant, you may want to look at this page http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper
[01:17] <Coruscant> i dont have a nvidia
[01:17] <|thunder> live is the best way to isnstall.
[01:18] <sysdoc> oops soory
[01:18] <silas> trying to get sun-java5-jdk installed but it doesn't work in apt-get
[01:18] <matko> what is best way to CRYPT my /home direstory that is on own patririon?
[01:18] <mlalkaka> how do i stop a certain kernel module (agpgart) from loading automatically [at start up] ? i already tried adding the line "blacklist agpgart" to the file "/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist", but it didn't work.
[01:18] <paotzu> I've been using netinstall, it's sweet
[01:18] <ompaul> !multiverse > silas
[01:18] <silas> ompaul: I have multiverse
[01:18] <Coruscant> i did it simple with warty and breezzy i just dont know how to do it in dapper
[01:18] <mwe> silas: error?
[01:18] <devhen> 6.06 on a powerbook G4: getting errors trying to install, setup partitions
[01:19] <james__> okay, so I have this problem on Google earth where it hangs at the splash screen
[01:19] <silas> mwe: no error
[01:19] <mwe> silas: huh?
[01:19] <|thunder> open Gl may be screwed
[01:19] <silas> mwe: E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-jdk
[01:19] <mwe> silas: what do you mean it doesn't work then?
[01:19] <Coruscant> Warbo anything else?
[01:19] <mwe> silas: that's an error. hence the E:
 you mean for GE?
[01:19] <seven11> silas+mwe: I can see the ping pong table.
[01:19] <ompaul> silas, then sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get isntall sun-java5-jdk
[01:20] <|thunder> ya,..
[01:20] <michaeljb2006> how can I install software that installs library dependencies, and then uninstall it removing the library dependencies it brought with it
[01:20] <recon0> What is the *actual* package for GTK+ v2.4.4>?  apt-cache search comes up with too much results.
[01:20] <james__> so should I try to reinstall Ubuntu?
[01:20] <Warbo> Coruscant: Sorry, I'm getting loads of messages here :)
[01:20] <Coruscant> sorry
[01:20] <silas> ompaul: still the same problem.
[01:20] <Coruscant> how do i get mp3s to play in dapper? (anyone)
[01:20] <silas> can't even search for it
[01:20] <mwe> recon0: libgtk2.0 I think
[01:21] <Juhaz> libgtk2.0-0
[01:21] <mwe> Juhaz: copycat 
[01:21] <|thunder> Cornellius, get automatix.  #automatix
[01:21] <paotzu> automatix is tight
[01:21] <|thunder> james__, how did you go about installing you vid drivers ?
[01:21] <michaeljb2006> automatix is my kind of action
[01:21] <paotzu> someone should add a bunch of video games to automatix so I have someone to play against
[01:21] <Juhaz> the -0 is important
[01:21] <polpak> !automatix
[01:21] <ompaul> silas, please paste /etc/apt/sources.list in paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:21] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[01:21] <BlackTopBum> Coruscant: go here ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-e18f2d510b1efe975368b818b5aa3ae2b2eee5c8
[01:22] <Warbo> !info trigger
[01:22] <james__> I didn't install any
[01:22] <ubotu> trigger: free 3D rally racing car game. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.5.2-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 219 kB, installed size 612 kB
[01:22] <silas> ompaul: I even try apt-cache search sun-java* and I don't get anything.. Ok I will do that...
[01:22] <ompaul> !worksforme
[01:22] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[01:22] <james__> I just installes Xubuntu
[01:22] <paotzu> alright I'll discuss it there sorry
[01:22] <mwe> silas: you didn't add the universe repo correctly if it can't find it
[01:22] <yoshiznit123> hey everybody, is there a way to embed resources (such as images) into ELF executables (kinda like resources in Windows .exe's)?
[01:23] <silas> ompaul: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20037
[01:23] <Warbo> yoshiznit123: Oooo, that makes me feel icky inside :(
[01:23] <Coruscant> BlackTopBurn i tried that i  think i need to be walked through it
[01:23] <silas> ompaul: weird isn't it
[01:23] <yoshiznit123> warbo, :-) i just wanted to distribute a program as a binary for other people's convenience, and it needs a glade file to go with it
[01:23] <ompaul> silas, you will see that you have universe - NOT multiverse - so add the word multiverse to the end of the lines with universe in it
[01:24] <yoshiznit123> warbo, are there better alternatives?
[01:24] <synic> yoshiznit123: .deb :o
[01:24] <silas> ompaul: what about line 027 and 028
[01:24] <silas> I see multiverse in them
[01:24] <Warbo> yoshiznit123: Just make a zip/tar.gz with the program and a folder called "resources" or something
[01:24] <BlackTopBum> Coruscant: find MP# and follow it step by step for your arch
[01:24] <ompaul> silas, also you have backports enabled not always the best idea - they are backports where ever you have universe you need to (should) put in multiverse
[01:24] <Warbo> Capital numbers again :)
[01:24] <Coruscant> im going to try kaffiene
[01:25] <ToRTuReD_X> how do i install gftp?
[01:25] <yoshiznit123> synic, warbo: yea i guess that would work... i was kinda hoping to say "just download the binary and chmod +x and run it to try this out"
[01:25] <yoshiznit123> "no installation necessary" kinda thing
[01:25] <Warbo> Coruscant: Kaffeine either uses Xine (same problem as Amarok) or Gstreamer (get gstreamer0.10-plugins-xxxxxx)
[01:25] <natalie> does anyone know how to reinstall grub so that it will load windows XP and how to go about it.
[01:25] <BlackTopBum> Coruscant : kaffiene works best for DVD and MP3 for me.
[01:25] <silas> ompaul: so just add multiverse to line 017 and 018 and disable backports
[01:25] <Coruscant> yea i just need mostly mpeg format and quicktime
[01:26] <yoshiznit123> natalie: sudo update-grub if you can get into your os
[01:26] <seven11> I installed Wine, to be able to use xfire, but it needs a dll, and I can't find the directory I need to put it in.
[01:26] <seven11> I'm totally lsot when it comes to nacigating linux's filesystem
[01:26] <ompaul> silas, when finished do >> sudo apt-get update << then install that is what I would do and I would add it to 32 33 in case you can grab it
[01:26] <seven11> lost* navigating*
[01:26] <Evil_Ed`> confidential
[01:26] <BlackTopBum> Hey - gotta go and fix dinner - CUL !
[01:26] <bimberi> ToRTuReD_X: Applications->Add/Remove, make sure "Show unsupported applications" is checked, search for gftp
[01:26] <mwe> !grub > natalie
[01:26] <mwe> natalie: read the links from ubotu I think it's explained there
[01:27] <geek|sauce> i just ordered a macbook.  can i run ubuntu on it?
[01:27] <visik7> yes
[01:27] <Warbo> geek|sauce: Yes
[01:27] <visik7> a friend of mine use it without macosx
[01:27] <Warbo> A PC without Windows is still a PC, but a Mac without OSX doesn't seem like a Mac any more
[01:28] <geek|sauce> sweet.  what do i need to do to get it to dual-boot?
[01:28] <Warbo> !info yaboot
[01:28] <ubotu> Package yaboot does not exist in dapper
[01:28] <mwe> geek|sauce: isn't the main point of a macbook versus a pc osx though?
[01:28] <silas> ompaul: ok thanks I got it to work
[01:28] <Warbo> Oh wait, that's for PPC!
[01:28] <visik7> a pc with ubuntu is cool
[01:28] <bimberi> !dualboot > visik7
[01:28] <Renan_s2> macbook = x86-based Mac? If so, it should work...
[01:28] <Warbo> !info efiloader
[01:28] <ubotu> Package efiloader does not exist in dapper
[01:28] <Warbo> OK, I'll stop now
[01:29] <dylan_> Anybody know of a tool that will convert avi to mpeg
[01:29] <dylan_> ?
[01:29] <visik7> binberi I don't need dualboot info
 RealPlayer has a mp3 plugin
[01:29] <mwe> dylan_: mencoder
[01:29] <dylan_> thanks
[01:29] <bimberi> visik7: my apologies -EWRONGNICK :)
[01:29] <geek|sauce> renan_s2, yes, intel-based.  core duo.
[01:29] <Renan_s2> geek|sauce, then it should run OK
[01:29] <bimberi> !dualboot
[01:29] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[01:30] <dylan_> mwe, how do i do it?
[01:30] <dylan_> mwe, its embedded in myplayer, right?
[01:30] <FurryNemesis> ty for help, nn all
[01:30] <Warbo> dylan_: VLC will do it as well I think (set output to stream, and select the filetype)
[01:30] <dylan_> Warbo, yes, but I only have mplayer right now.
[01:31] <mwe> dylan_: it's a standalone program and it comes with excellent documentation. I can't give you a quick command off the top of my head
[01:31] <dylan_> thanks
[01:31] <dylan_> will try
[01:31] <WayCool> Hello everyone :)
[01:31] <briGR> is there some linux mate from greece in here?
[01:32] <WayCool> guys I am new to Ubuntu; can some one tell me the recomended hardware requirements for the latest release?
[01:32] <Warbo> I know Mencoder syntax, but I never use MPEG output so I don't know it's option names :(
[01:33] <jnguy[w] > !seen umichdm
[01:33] <ubotu> I haven't seen umichdm recently
[01:33] <Sir_Fawnpug> WayCool, I've seen Breezy run on a PII pretty stable
[01:33] <Sir_Fawnpug> So they're not very high
[01:33] <WayCool> SF: what about ram?
[01:35] <valehru> Can someone explain to me why GKRELLM is saying that there is 2 users logged in...when I type who in the console I find myself logged in 3 times?  wtf?
[01:35] <valehru> valehru  :0           2006-08-07 20:32
[01:35] <valehru> valehru  pts/0        2006-08-08 19:32 (:0.0)
[01:35] <twobitspr1te> why can't I turn off num lock?
[01:35] <mwe> twobitspr1te: because the key is broken?
[01:35] <Sir_Fawnpug> WayCool, I believe he was running 64 or 128MB
[01:36] <Sir_Fawnpug> If you want to run X, I recommend having 64
[01:36] <sameer> hey guyz can someone here help :P
[01:36] <Sir_Fawnpug> sameer, what's the problem?
[01:36] <mwe> doesn't ubuntu require 192MB?
[01:36] <n0dl> is it possible to get a virus by simply opening an email? (I am not using an email client but viewing it through the webbased UI)
[01:36] <Renan_s2> n0dl, no
[01:37] <rmbrain> Is there a program that I can use to burn AVI files as a DVD or Video CD?
[01:37] <twobitspr1te> mwe, never mind... it's this stupid keyboard... it's one of those with things like "F-Key lock" and crap... I had to monkey around with some of the "special" keys...
[01:37] <sameer> hey i just have 2 questions one is flash 7 the only version avail for ubuntu or is ther enething newer second ive got vlc totem and mplayer nd i am still having problems playing online videos on some sites..
[01:37] <rmbrain> sameer, yes
[01:37] <mwe> twobitspr1te: 
[01:37] <WayCool> SF: so assuming that p2 with 128mb is enough, was it running well or crawling along?
[01:37] <n0dl> Renan_s2: aaa i c. thanks
[01:37] <farous> sameer: flash 7 is the only one available so far
[01:37] <sameer> :(
[01:37] <Renan_s2> You can almost forget about viruses in Linux :)
[01:37] <farous> sameer: install w32codecs
[01:37] <n0dl> Renan_s2: how about getting a trojan?
[01:37] <sb> I use wine, windows firefox, and the newest flash
[01:37] <sameer> radioblog site doesnt show up properly..
[01:37] <twobitspr1te> mwe, whoa, how did you produce that character?
[01:37] <farous> !restrictedformats > sameer
[01:38] <n0dl> Renan_s2: sorry i meant to say trojan not virus >_<
[01:38] <mwe> twobitspr1te: 
[01:38] <sameer> thanks farous
[01:38] <Renan_s2> n0dl, the same, there are almost no trojans for Linux... and if you're running as a normal user (not root) then you're safe
[01:38] <mwe> twobitspr1te: it's katakana TSU
[01:38] <sameer> let me see that msg :P
[01:38] <farous> :)
[01:38] <n0dl> Renan_s2: aright. thanks
[01:38] <sameer> btw guyz ive nver used linux before my first time using it
[01:38] <sameer> ive been using it for like 10 days..
[01:38] <twobitspr1te> mwe, eh?
[01:38] <sameer> its pretty amazing
[01:39] <sebakiller> hi
[01:39] <sebakiller> any hacker
[01:39] <recon0> I'm trying to configure gimpshop, and I get: pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/20037 . Any help with the error?
[01:39] <sebakiller> ?
[01:39] <mwe> twobitspr1te: a language. gucharmap can show them
[01:39] <nbjayme> greetings everyone! :)   is there a gui app that allow you to keep track of your ink level in HP?
[01:39] <ReWT_AxS> nb, gesklets has a few.
[01:39] <ReWT_AxS> Just have to configure them to the device.
[01:39] <twobitspr1te> mwe, interesting...
[01:39] <sameer> hey guyz is there ne way to make ubuntu show ur cpu temperatuere in terminal with some command..
[01:39] <mwe> twobitspr1te: then I just bind it to alt+the 1/2 key
[01:40] <farous> sameer: install sensors-applet
[01:40] <sameer> thanks mate
[01:40] <farous> sameer: i use gkrellm but sensors-applet is more integrated to gnome
[01:40] <ReWT_AxS> sebakiller, why are you looking for a hacker?
[01:40] <ReWT_AxS> lol
[01:40] <twobitspr1te> mwe, I see
[01:40] <recon0> Is there any way to remove a source package after "make install"?
[01:41] <|thunder> anyone got a journaled hfs+ partition mounted? i just followed the tut on help.ubuntu.com with no succes.
[01:41] <ubucomp> ubuntu is based on the debian distro?
[01:41] <mwe> twobitspr1te: xset -e 'keycode 49 = onehalf section threequarters paragraph kana_TSU paragraph' then alt+1/2
[01:41] <ReWT_AxS> recon0,  sudo apt-get remove "program"
[01:41] <Warbo> recon0: That is not a package. To make a package use checkinstall (you MAY be able to run "sudo make uninstall, but it depends on the application)
[01:41] <mwe> twobitspr1te: at least for a danish keyboard. I think it will work for US layout too
[01:41] <Renan_s2> ubucomp, yes
[01:42] <recon0> Warbo: after or before install?
[01:42] <ubucomp> Renan_s2: k thx
[01:42] <recon0> warbo: never mind. What I mean is can you elaborate on checkinstall?
[01:43] <ReWT_AxS> type checkinstall
[01:43] <twobitspr1te> mwe, well... I don't have a 1/2 key, but I'm sure I can find something to bind it to
[01:43] <Sir_Fawnpug> Has anybody tried using ubuntu as the basis of a recording workstation? I'm looking for a good distro to use and I'm considering either gentoo or ubuntu.
[01:43] <mwe> twobitspr1te: yeah
[01:43] <Warbo> recon0: If you got a tar.gz archive then uninstalling it with make uninstall may work if you have make installed it, but using sudo checkinstall instead of make install will build a package which is easily uninstallable using the regular PAT tools
[01:43] <mwe> twobitspr1te: xev will show they keycodes
[01:43] <recon0> Warbo: OK.
[01:44] <Warbo> *APT
[01:45] <mwe> Warbo: I was thinking what am I missing here, the PAT tools 
[01:45] <twobitspr1te> mwe, thanks
[01:45] <mwe> twobitspr1te: yw
[01:46] <recon0> half of the packages in my apt are broken because of mixed versions. Is there any way to fix or help this along? (by "mixed versions" i mean it will give a "needs to be installed but will not be" error.)
[01:46] <overridex> anyone know a working up-to-date howto for getting xgl/compiz working on amd64 dapper?
[01:46] <Warbo> recon0: Have you installed loads of non-distro or non-release packages, or using similar repos?
[01:46] <greddy> okay i did a "./configure" then i did "make" now how do i install this program?
[01:47] <skarface> make install
[01:47] <BurningClaws> yep
[01:47] <Warbo> "sudo checkinstall -D" then "sudo dpkg -i *.deb"
[01:47] <Quinn_Storm> can't you just fakeroot the checkinstall?
[01:47] <mwe> wont sudo checkinstall install the .deb rightaway?
[01:47] <Quinn_Storm> I think it asks
[01:48] <gnomefreak> mwe: yes
[01:48] <greddy> hmmm
[01:48] <Warbo> there is an option to install, but I forget it's syntax (either --install or --install=yes)
[01:48] <mwe> I thougt so
[01:48] <gnomefreak> it isntalls it automaticly
[01:48] <greddy> if i do " make install" nothing seems to happen
[01:48] <BurningClaws> what ids u can offer?
[01:48] <Warbo> Not for me it doesn't
[01:48] <recon0> Warbo: nope. It's usually "needs v. ubuntu3 but ubuntu1 is going to be install".
[01:48] <gnomefreak> greddy: sudo make install
[01:48] <Warbo> greddy: you need to use sudo make install, but I would prefer checkinstall
[01:49] <greddy> ermmm okay
[01:49] <mwe> Warbo: well just 'sudo checkinstall' has installed the .deb in breezy and dapper for me. odd
[01:49] <gnomefreak> Warbo: i just built something with it and it installed on its own
[01:49] <greddy> hold on let me try that
[01:49] <domas> hii! did anyone find out why does ubuntu dapper freeze in parallels?
[01:49] <BurningClaws> simply do 'sudo -s -H' and work normally with root
[01:49] <gnomefreak> mwe: edgy also
[01:49] <mwe> ok
[01:49] <Warbo> recon0: Hmm, I don't know why that would happen with regular Dapper, Breezy or whatever repos and packages
[01:49] <domas> (I've heard live cd works, but proper install does not)
[01:49] <gnomefreak> domas: it works
[01:49] <linuxpoet> Is the launchpad available for download?
[01:50] <domas> ah, pcmcia issues
[01:50] <gnomefreak> linuxpoet: launchpad download?
[01:50] <domas> how do I disable kernel's pcmcia support then? :)
[01:50] <linuxpoet> gnomefreak: yes the source to launchpad.net
[01:50] <recon0> warbo: srry, disconnect. you were saying?
[01:50] <mwe> domas: blacklist the modules
[01:50] <gnomefreak> domas: bios, there is also a way in the kernel options but i cant remember that way
[01:50] <Warbo> domas: Blacklist it? (disable it in bootup with update-rc.d?)
[01:50] <domas> well, it is kernel that fails to load
[01:50] <Warbo> recon0: Er, I forgot. Let me scroll up :)
[01:51] <domas> there should be some kernel option
[01:51] <mwe> domas: pcmcia is modulized in Ubuntu. blacklisting the modules will turn it off
[01:51] <Warbo> recon0: Oh yeah, basically same conversation as we are having with greddy now
[01:51] <greddy> warbo : okay i have a .deb file now what
[01:51] <Warbo> sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[01:51] <gnomefreak> greddy: sudo dpkg -i file.deb?
[01:51] <domas> well, last time I touched kernel boot options was like... 7 years ago? ;-)
[01:51] <johnnyccc> when i boot from a livecd i can get online no problem, after i install i have nothing but problems any ideas?
[01:52] <recon0> warbo: i think the last thing I said was the most common error was "needs v. ubuntu3 but ubuntu1 is going to be installed".
[01:52] <overridex> anyone know a working up-to-date howto for getting xgl/compiz working on amd64 dapper w/ nvidia?
[01:52] <skarface> johnnyccc: what are the problems?
[01:52] <gnomefreak> overridex: /j #ubuntu-xgl for that please
[01:52] <mwe> johnnyccc: it didn't configure the card right for some reason
[01:52] <Warbo> recon0: Oh, you're that guy. I said "Hmm, I don't know why that would happen with regular Dapper, Breezy or whatever repos and packages"
[01:52] <greddy> warbo : thanks :>
[01:52] <mwe> johnnyccc: use the gnome network manager to fix it
[01:52] <domas> I wonder if init=/bin/sh will work
[01:53] <recon0> Can I bypass the dependency?
[01:53] <mwe> domas: work for what?
[01:53] <recon0> warbo: see above.
[01:53] <HeXiOn> hello
[01:53] <Warbo> recon0: --ignore-depends is an apt-get option I think
[01:53] <mwe> domas: it will give you a root prompt and not start any services
[01:53] <Waterbou> Is there a partition program included in ubuntu?
[01:53] <BurningClaws> yes
[01:53] <mwe> Waterbou: several
[01:53] <BurningClaws> gparted
[01:53] <Warbo> (but using that will make any APT utility show broken packages afterwards)
[01:53] <domas> mwe: ubuntu hangs for me at 'Uncompressing Linux... OK, booting the kernel'
[01:54] <mwe> domas: oh
[01:54] <Waterbou> Where is gparted located?
[01:54] <Warbo> !gparted
[01:54] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[01:54] <gnomefreak> Waterbou: main i think
[01:54] <mwe> domas: what makes you think it's due to pcmcia?
[01:54] <gnomefreak> !info gparted
[01:54] <ubotu> gparted: partition editor for GNOME. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu10 (dapper), package size 232 kB, installed size 1280 kB
[01:54] <gnomefreak> yep main
[01:54] <domas> mwe: some basic googling
[01:54] <Warbo> Must be in main, since it is on the CD
[01:54] <BurningClaws> Wanderer: install it 'sudo apt-get install gparted' then do 'gparted &'
[01:54] <Warbo> surely gparted needs a gksudo?
[01:55] <mwe> domas: it could be caused be a gazillion things
[01:55] <domas> mwe: people used livecd to successfully install, and all failed with proper iso
[01:55] <domas> mwe: sure, esp. being installed on a virtual machine :)
[01:55] <BurningClaws> Warbo: oh, i forgot it
[01:55] <magus_x> hey
[01:55] <mwe> domas: heh yes maybe so 
[01:55] <magus_x> can anyone recommend me a good
[01:55] <magus_x> cd burner?
[01:55] <Warbo> !enter > magus_x
[01:55] <Warbo> !burn
[01:55] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[01:56] <BurningClaws> magus_x: nerolinux
[01:56] <mwe> magical: pioneer
[01:56] <Warbo> BurningClaws: Never!
[01:56] <magus_x> hm...
[01:56] <mwe> magus_x: burner or program?
[01:56] <magus_x> K3b runs on gnome?
[01:56] <magus_x> program
[01:56] <Warbo> magus_x: Yes
[01:56] <overridex> gnomefreak: thanks
[01:56] <magus_x> nice
[01:56] <BurningClaws> magus_x: cdrecord ;-)
[01:56] <gnomefreak> yw
[01:56] <magus_x> i will get k3b
[01:56] <domas> should try that livecd approach then
[01:56] <magus_x> i already ised it
[01:56] <magus_x> *used
[01:56] <recon0> Warbo: nope, didn't work. no such option.
[01:56] <ReWT_AxS> 
[01:56] <domas> does 'ubuntu server' use same packages as desktop, except kernel?
[01:57] <magus_x> k3b dont work??
[01:57] <ReWT_AxS> What did you do to use it?
[01:57] <Warbo> magus_x: If you get problems then try launching it as super user (gksudo)
[01:57] <BurningClaws> domas: no, it without X
[01:57] <gnomefreak> domas: no server has no gui
[01:57] <Warbo> recon0: Check man apt-get
[01:57] <HeXiOn> is there any way to make mplayer don't show its main windows (controls), just the movie??? it's annoying because the switcher shows 2 tasks for each mplayer :S
[01:57] <domas> I understand
[01:57] <mwe> domas: it installs just the basic system. no X or anything
[01:57] <johnnyccc> ugh ubuntu is getting me so frustrated
[01:57] <BurningClaws> HeXiOn: use 'mplayer <file>' in terminal
[01:57] <domas> my question is... are packages shared? (though, the list of installed packages is obviously not)
[01:57] <mwe> domas: the kernel is the same
[01:57] <magus_x> K3b works or not at gnome?
[01:57] <domas> there're few things I'd like to see on server distro
[01:57] <WayCool> what someone else care to offer an opinion how much RAM and what CPU is recomended to have the Ubuntu 6.06 run fast?
[01:57] <Warbo> HeXiOn: Use "mplayer" from command line (actually, that is what mplayer does by default. "gmplayer" is a GUI)
[01:58] <mwe> domas: it should be called minimal I think
[01:58] <tjb891> is there a way to write down your appointments in GNOME (the clock has it come up as a tooltip)?
[01:58] <mwe> domas: it doesn't even install any server programs
[01:58] <Warbo> Evolution <- tjb891
[01:58] <domas> anyway, I have a list of things I'd like to see on server distro
[01:58] <tjb891> ok
[01:58] <tjb891> cool
[01:58] <tjb891> thx
[01:58] <HeXiOn> it works! :)
[01:58] <domas> like... symbol files for all libs/daemons
[01:58] <Warbo> HeXiOn: Of course :)
[01:59] <domas> or... separate reentrant libs
[01:59] <HeXiOn> but is there any way to do the same from nautilus?
[01:59] <hoosierdaddy> does anybody know of an Ubuntu vpn client that is compatible with Nortel Contivity gateways?
[01:59] <domas> (so that say... apache/mod_php would not be using reentrant stuff, where not needed)
[01:59] <Warbo> HeXiOn: You can put "Open With" (in right click>properties) to open with a custom command "mplayer" [the default MPlayer Movie Player entry uses gmplayer)
[01:59] <recon0> is ubuntu-desktop core?
[01:59] <recon0> as in is it safe to uninstall?
[02:00] <Warbo> recon0: It doesn't do anything, other than keep some other packages installed
[02:00] <BurningClaws> recon0: no, it's meta package
[02:00] <farous> recon0: it is a meta package no harm in uninstall
[02:00] <johnnyccc> this is terrible, i get an ip over dhcp i can connect to the internet yet when i go to dowload something from the repositories it times out
[02:00] <mwe> recon0: uninstalling ubuntu-destop wont remove any actual software
[02:00] <Warbo> recon0: ubuntu-minimal and stuff make sure your system is still bootable and usable
[02:00] <sebakiller> any hacker?
[02:00] <domas> there're various other issues
[02:00] <Renan_s2> sebakiller, why do you want a hacker?
[02:00] <Warbo> sebakiller: Why?
[02:00] <HeXiOn> Warbo: thank you! it worked again! :)
[02:00] <domas> whom should I approach with such feature requests? :)
[02:00] <sebakiller> i have some questions
[02:01] <Renan_s2> sebakiller, ask them here
[02:01] <BurningClaws> sebakiller: don't waste the time & ask ;-)
[02:01] <nubious> anyone here have Compiz running on XGL?
[02:01] <ompaul> !xgl
[02:01] <mwe> !compiz
[02:01] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:01] <nubious> !compiz
[02:01] <nubious> ?
[02:01] <mwe> nubious: read what ubotu said
[02:01] <ompaul> nubious, its too late see the message from ubotu in the channel and go there :)
[02:02] <erUSUL> nubious: #ubuntu-xgl
[02:02] <porcho> anyone know of shell copy program that features a progress bar (a cp with a progress bar, I mean)
[02:02] <recon0> darn it all! if i force version libglib2.0-0 to install libglib2.0-dev, it will uninstall libglib2.0-data! how can I resolve this?
[02:02] <utmostcathode> Hello all. I'm feeling frisky right now, and I have this old TiVo box sitting around that I don't use anymore.  Any one have any resources on installing linux on it?  I don't want to hack the service or anything.
[02:02] <Warbo> porcho: I think rsync can be used like that
[02:02] <sebakiller> when i make a shellcode for exploiting , what adress i put on the overwritten adress?
[02:02] <Blinker> mwe: sup.
[02:02] <nubious> mwe: I hit CTRL-L thinking it would show me a break in text like in mIRC and I was going to switch to another channel, so I lost it
[02:02] <nubious> cause it cleared the channel
[02:02] <mwe> !xgl > nubious
[02:02] <sebakiller> ........................
[02:02] <mwe> nubious: read /msg from ubotu now
[02:03] <mwe> Blinker: hey
[02:03] <nubious> mwe: I've actually got it running ;)
[02:03] <johnnyccc> is there something wrong with the repositories?
[02:03] <nubious> I was just curious if anyone else here did too
[02:03] <mwe> nubious: oh
[02:03] <gcrumb> question re: /etc/modules - does Ubuntu still use  /sbin/update-modules.modutils to auto-generate the file, or is there some other process now?
[02:03] <nubious> thx tho
[02:03] <mwe> nubious: It was unstable for me
[02:03] <HeXiOn> I've been using linux for years but this week I left windows forever... If I make lirc work, I'll have all I want :D
[02:03] <Blinker> mwe: I got acceleration working after I got to work alright, fyi. seems I missed ya by the time i got there tho
[02:03] <Warbo> Oh? I use gedit to make /etc/modules
[02:03] <porcho> Warbo: but it's intended to do remote file copying, isn't it?
[02:03] <Paladine> nubious, yes I have it running, you should join #ubuntu-xgl
[02:03] <ompaul> !ask > sebakiller
[02:03] <merc> how do i figure out what version of ubuntu im running? (ubuntu/dapper, etc?)
[02:03] <mwe> Blinker: I think I had to go
[02:04] <ompaul> sebakiller, read the message from ubotu
[02:04] <Warbo> porcho: Yes, but it works locally (look in the manual for syntax, I have only used it a couple of times)
[02:04] <erUSUL> merc: cat /etc/lsb-release
[02:04] <Renan_s2> or cat /etc/issue
[02:04] <porcho> Warbo: thanks!
[02:04] <Blinker> mwe: its all good. you helped plenty enough to get me on the right track, the bulk of what I needed
[02:04] <QMario> Did any of you receive a file transfer from a person name Ciazy?
[02:04] <gcrumb> Warbo: No, I mean 'auto-generate' 8^)
[02:04] <mwe> Blinker: so it's working now?
[02:04] <merc> erUSUL: thanks
[02:04] <Icomey> Where is the sudo users list?
[02:04] <Blinker> mwe: nicely.
[02:05] <mwe> Blinker: great
[02:05] <ompaul> QMario, offtopic
[02:05] <guigouz> why doesn't ubuntu use hotplug ?
[02:05] <merc> hm, dapper, didnt think i upgraded to that already...coo
[02:05] <sebakiller> ompaul uboutu dont say nothing
[02:05] <hoosierdaddy> /etc/sudoers
[02:05] <mwe> Icomey: sudo users list?
[02:05] <Warbo> gcrumb: I was just saying that I am open to automatic solutions, but didn't know they existed :)
[02:05] <Icomey> thank you.
[02:05] <QMario> Ompaul, I think it might be spam?
[02:05] <mwe> Icomey: don't edit the file by hand
[02:05] <ompaul> QMario, so don't accept
[02:05] <mwe> too late
[02:06] <HeXiOn> bye :)
[02:06] <gcrumb> Warbo: heh. I'm tracking down a bug when upgrading Breezy to Dapper (https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/41144)
[02:06] <mwe> hoosierdaddy: you forgot to tell him to not edit the file by hand in the same sentence as it can lock you out if you mess it up
[02:06] <mwe> hoosierdaddy: lock out of root access that is
[02:06] <Warbo> Well I'm going to try and sort out my iterative Python loop, back in a bit
[02:06] <ompaul> sebakiller, it said don't ask to ask, ask your question - so ask a straight forward question, saying what it is you wish to achieve - and say it to the channel so that if someone knows the answer they can give it to you
[02:07] <gcrumb> the /etc/modules file doesn't get migrated properly, and a whole bunch of things stop working - it's very mysterious for non-geek users
[02:07] <sebakiller> ok
[02:07] <sebakiller> thanks
[02:07] <ompaul> sebakiller, this is irc - so ask it all in one line, please do not use enter for punctuation
[02:07] <sebakiller> ok
[02:07] <ompaul> !away > amee2k|zZzZ
[02:08] <gcrumb> I've found that on my machine, the /sbin/update-modules script just redirects to /sbin/update-modules.modutils - but that file doesn't exist
[02:08] <gcrumb> ... so I want to verify that it *should* exist, or that something else is responsible for updating the /etc/modules file
[02:09] <riddlebox>  #python
[02:09] <riddlebox> oops sorry
[02:09] <potatodemon> How can I clone my SATA drive onto a IDE drive that I have on the same system?
[02:09] <Crescendo> My sound quality is pretty bad on my onboard audio controller - any ideas on how to fix it?
[02:09] <gekko`> !away
[02:09] <ubotu> Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[02:11] <guigouz> oh, new uden doesn't need hotplug.
[02:12] <ompaul> !msgthebot
[02:12] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[02:12] <ompaul> gekko`, ^^^^^ :-)
[02:12] <rob_p> potatodemon:  unmount the drives, then use dd to dump the contents of your SATA drive, to the IDE one.  You'll probably need to boot up with something like a live CD to do it.
[02:13] <gcrumb> If no one here can confirm how /etc/modules is generated, I'll take it to the dev mailing list, but I was hoping for a quick confirmation....
[02:13] <ompaul> gcrumb, and that is the wrong place for it there is a users mailing list
[02:13] <mwe> gcrumb: /etc/modules is a list of modules to auto load a boot time
[02:14] <s0undt3ch> hello ppl
[02:14] <Miek> hi
[02:14] <gcrumb> mwe: Yep, I know that. 8^)
[02:14] <s0undt3ch> while trying to install Xubunto it came to my knowledge that the partitioner does not support LVM correct? or am I wrong?
[02:14] <ompaul> gcrumb, https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users that is the list you want
[02:15] <tamale> is /etc/modules REGENERATED?
[02:15] <tamale> mine is trying to load a printer driver and i have a flaky parallel port that shouldn't be touched
[02:15] <tamale> it's killin my ability to boot
[02:15] <gcrumb> I'm trying to trace what looks like a broken package dependancy that affects workstations upgrading from Breezy to Dapper - which I suspect *is* a developer issue, ompaul 8^)
[02:15] <mwe> tamale: mine doesn't get changed
[02:16] <tamale> can someone confirm if it's ever written over automatically?
[02:16] <tamale> or if changes i make to it are permanent
[02:17] <s0undt3ch> anyone?
[02:17] <Mijit> Anyone ever installed ubuntu 5.04 on an old compaq laptop, go thru the entire 2 hours installation which completed, then have it reboot and say boot disk failure?
[02:17] <ompaul> tamale, please stop using the enter key as a comma or full stop - it appears to be there the full time
[02:17] <mwe> tamale: my changes have been permanent for a very long time
[02:17] <gcrumb> tamale: yes it gets regenerated every time the kernel is updated - it has to be
[02:18] <mae> wow if channel size is any indicator, #ubuntu is way larger than #fedora, #kubuntu is even by itself
[02:18] <tamale> gcrumb:  Thank you, i just updated my kernel, so that must be it.
[02:18] <shiv> Many a time when I install programs they do not show up in start menu. How do I find them or move them there?
[02:18] <ompaul> gcrumb, if bug file on launchpad.net - also did you have ubuntu-desktop installed when you tried to do the upgrade
[02:18] <Shadow_mil> how can I make more ttyls?
[02:18] <Shadow_mil> more then just 6
[02:18] <tamale> gcrumb:  The new question then becomes, how can I make sure my install NEVER adds a particular driver automatically, regardless of kernel version?
[02:18] <nbx909> http://digg.com/political_opinion/Unofficial_and_Unnamed_Pirate_Party_of_The_United_States_Podcast_Episode_2
[02:18] <mwe> tamale: blacklist the module
[02:19] <tamale> mwe:  I have no clue what that means
[02:19] <ompaul> !blacklist > tamale
[02:19] <incandenza> my /etc/modules has never been overwritten when I upgraded the kernel
[02:19] <domas> I see LiveCD referred
[02:19] <ompaul> tamale, the channel bot has sent you the data you need
[02:19] <domas> but I don't see it at official downloads
[02:19] <gcrumb> ompaul: I'm working on resolving bug 41144, and yes, I had the ubuntu-desktop meta package installed before the upgrade
[02:20] <LeSin> heellooo
[02:20] <Mijit> I used the livecd to do the install to my laptop, and I think the mbr or something is screwed up, or grub did not install properly.
[02:20] <mwe> incandenza: I don't remember mine being touched either
[02:20] <ompaul> gcrumb, ahh then you need to be in .. taaa daaaa #ubuntu-bugs
[02:20] <domas> Mijit: livecd from where?
[02:20] <gcrumb> tamale: you don't necessarily want that. Module names change over time
[02:20] <Coruscant> ok so if i have gstreamer0.10-plugins-good installed how do i apply iy
[02:20] <Mijit> It was shipped to me free, version 5.04, its been a while.
[02:20] <gcrumb> ompaul: Heh, *that's* the bit of missing info I needed. Thanks! Ta!
[02:21] <Mijit> Since I received it.
[02:21] <domas> ah, 5.x
[02:21] <Mijit> Is that bad?
[02:21] <ompaul> gcrumb, it was the info we got :-)    (I really hate pulling teeth ;-))
[02:21] <Mijit> I guess it is considering my "boot disk failure" message after rebooting.
[02:21] <LeSin> apologies for the interuption, i have a rather newbish question concerning something called utf-8
[02:22] <greddy> i have a server running at the moment how would i stop it from running?
[02:22] <domas> mijit: I want to experiment with dapper
[02:22] <mTec[s] |nzk|Revi> has anyone here seen "The thing"
[02:22] <ompaul> greddy, what server - http print mail ?
[02:22] <ishorseman> Coruscant are you still looking for a mp3 player ?
[02:22] <ompaul> mTec[s] |nzk|Revi, your offtopic
[02:23] <Mijit> domas: is there anyway to repair the grub bootloader? or check that it is intact or something? i am a win* admin struggling to get away from win* on my personal machines at home.
[02:23] <Coruscant> no ishorseman i have amarok and i like it im trying to get mp3 capatibility
[02:23] <ompaul> !offtopic
[02:23] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:23] <domas> um, I never touched grub directly
[02:23] <mTec[s] |nzk|Revi> ompaul: i know its just no one else has seeen it
[02:23] <Mijit> This is my first encounter with Linux and after all the hoopla over ubuntu, i am a little disappointed.
[02:23] <domas> used to have lots of personal love with lilo ages ago
[02:23] <greddy> ompaul: ss5 server
[02:23] <LeSin> really mijit? i just migrated here after a short stint with fedora. i'm very pleased with ubuntu so far :D
[02:24] <damian_> what is tty?
[02:24] <mwe> domas: it was annoying, having to run lilo at every change of lilo.conf or it would have any effect
[02:24] <mTec[s] |nzk|Revi> Has anyone here seen the thing
[02:24] <Mijit> I ran the install and it seemd to install fine, then after shuttting of the laptop and rebooting I get "boot disk failure"
[02:24] <domas> mwe: more annoying part was 'LI'
[02:24] <BurningClaws> mTec[s] |nzk|Revi: no
[02:24] <Mijit> So I have yet to even "run" it natively from my hardware.
[02:24] <Coruscant> ishorseman know anything about it?
[02:25] <mwe> domas: oh yes that one too 
[02:25] <damian_> what is tty?
[02:25] <ishorseman> Coruscant capatibility ?
[02:25] <domas> damian: terminal!
[02:25] <damian_> domas: what does it stand for
[02:25] <mwe> damian_: serial device file
[02:25] <ompaul> greddy, ehh socks server? >> /etc/init.d/ss5 stop << ?? perhaps that works
[02:25] <Mijit> anyone have an idea where I can start?
[02:25] <domas> I wouldn't call tty that serial, it has much more
[02:26] <Coruscant> i know it will play them is horseman but how do you set ubuntu to do it
[02:26] <domas> 'text terminal' or so, anyway
[02:26] <tamale_> Does anyone know what I can pass to grub to prevent X from loading?
[02:26] <damian_> domas: what is the y for
[02:26] <ompaul> damian_, full name teletypeterminal been superceeded by these cathode ray tubes and LCDs and all for a few years now ;-)
[02:26] <LeSin> so.. as i was saying i'm attempting to install gaim-w on my machine but the files will not run.. they say something about utf-8
[02:26] <damian_> ompaul: thanks
[02:26] <domas> *g*
[02:27] <Mijit> anyone?
[02:27] <domas> well, device names are always fun
[02:27] <Serfalyx> tamale: add 'single' to the boot command line
[02:27] <LeSin> how would i go about having this utf-8 supported on my machine?
[02:27] <tamale_> damian:  In normal mode, not single user
[02:27] <domas> e.g. NetBSD used to have 'pms' driver for mouse for a while, simply because someone made a typo, was trying to type 'psm' when committing...
[02:27] <ishorseman> Coruscant  now I understand the problem but don't have an answer handy sorry
[02:27] <Coruscant> anyone else than?
[02:28] <tamale_> How about disbling a specific service?
[02:28] <ompaul> have you X running atm?
[02:28] <Mijit> Is this channel for more advanced support or something?
[02:28] <Mijit> or is there another channel for linux newbs?
[02:28] <domas> mijit: my problems usually are far behind bootloader, sorry :(
[02:28] <Mijit> domas: hey thanks tho
[02:29] <Coruscant> how do you get dapper to support mp3s?
[02:29] <ompaul> Mijit, that is a nasty one, first quesiton what version are you trying to install?
[02:29] <Mijit> 5.04
[02:29] <Mijit> I installed it.
[02:29] <Mijit> Went thru the whole process.
[02:29] <LeSin> Coruscant : personally i just ran easy-ubuntu, it installed support for mp3 right away
[02:29] <Mijit> On an old compaq laptop, 500+ mhz
[02:29] <ompaul> Mijit, but it did not turn on the first time after the install?
[02:29] <Coruscant> what is easy ubuntu?
[02:29] <Serfalyx> Coruscant : Agreed - easy-ubuntu did the trick
[02:30] <Mijit> Yes
[02:30] <Mijit> it did
[02:30] <LeSin> eeh google ought to have it for you
[02:30] <ompaul> Coruscant, go to #easyubuntu and check it out
[02:30] <Coruscant> do i have to reformat now
[02:30] <LeSin> or what he said
[02:30] <Mijit> I havent used it in a few days, then booted up and it said "bootdisk failure"
[02:30] <Mijit> 3 words
[02:30] <ompaul> LeSin, we never say that - we say what it is or say nothing at all
[02:30] <Serfalyx> Coruscant: No, it's an addon to ubuntu - installs extra stuff
[02:30] <LeSin> alright
[02:30] <tamale_> ompaul:  Were you asking me?
[02:30] <Coruscant> oh cool let me try
[02:31] <ompaul> tamale_, I was
[02:31] <Coruscant> is there a website to download
[02:31] <Mijit> the hdd could have died, but i thot maybe someone here would know how to troubleshoot the bootloader
[02:31] <Mijit> to be sure
[02:31] <LeSin> lemme see if i can find it then
[02:31] <Coruscant> cause im prob going to need help installing as usual
[02:31] <ompaul> Mijit, is here a floppy in the machine?
[02:31] <tamale_> ompaul:   I'm having problems booting in general.  First it was a printer driver that was trying to access a flaky parallel port, now it's X starting.  I'm just wondering how I can tell the linux image to not load X from grub
[02:31] <Mijit> i am a win* admin, so i am not afriad of gettin down and dirty, i just dont know where to start with a linux installation.
[02:31] <Serfalyx> tamale: did you try adding the 'single' keyword to the grub boot line?
[02:31] <LeSin> coruscant : http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[02:32] <Coruscant> thanks
[02:32] <secleinteer> hey, does any1 know how i specify a separate home partition in a ubuntu install?
[02:32] <tamale_> Serfalx:  I need get it to work in the normal mode, not single user mode
[02:32] <secleinteer> do i need the alternate cd?
[02:32] <OtavioRibeiro> how to play a m4a/mp4 file using totem with gstreammer?
[02:32] <Mijit> OK, everyone here please solemnly swear you will never, EVER, tell anyone that mijit had a disk in the floppy and didnt check it.
[02:32] <Mijit> hahahhaha
[02:32] <ompaul> Mijit, I just want to know if yo uhave a floppy in the device :-) if not then I fear for your hard drive and suggest you start looking at a live cd to see if you can rescue data off it
[02:32] <jimmygoon> sec: when you are doing the install you can manage the partitions....
[02:32] <LeSin> it'll go a long way beyond just mp3 too
[02:32] <Mijit> thanks bro
[02:32] <Serfalyx> secleinteer: When you set up your partitions, make one mount on /home
[02:32] <LeSin> like certain video codecs and such
[02:32] <jimmygoon> and you can select a parition to mount on /home/
[02:32] <Mijit> i do not know how it got in ther
[02:32] <Mijit> but it did
[02:32] <secleinteer> ok, i'll see if i can get that to work
[02:33] <Mijit> i almost never use this laptop, its old, but i thot i would try out linux
[02:33] <Mijit> its booting
[02:33] <Awsoonn> hello~
[02:33] <Coruscant> lets try it
[02:33] <Mijit> <- is a schmuck
[02:33] <secleinteer> Mijit: with ubuntu, you might experience slow performance
[02:33] <Serfalyx> Mijit: Don't feel bad - been there :)
[02:33] <Tutter> anyone know how to get the sticynotes applet to work?
[02:33] <Mijit> lol
[02:33] <secleinteer> you might want to try slackaware or something
[02:33] <Mijit> really?
[02:33] <secleinteer> i've tried it b4 on an old laptop
[02:33] <Mijit> I need something newbie friendly until i learn the ropes
[02:33] <Masqy> what's the common way to configure a PPP connection using text mode?
[02:34] <guigouz> Mijit, you can try www.damnsmalllinux.org
[02:34] <Mijit> and i got the impression slackware wasnt it
[02:34] <secleinteer> the people at #slackware are really helpful
[02:34] <Tutter> slackware is not noob friendly
[02:34] <Coruscant> THANKS IT WORKED!!!
[02:34] <Mijit> thanks for the tip
[02:34] <LeSin> :D
[02:34] <Awsoonn> I'm new to IRC, can I just ask my question?
[02:34] <Serfalyx> DSL?  What kind of laptop is this, a P60? :)
[02:34] <Mijit> if its too slow for my liking i will try it
[02:34] <secleinteer> Tutter: don't say noob, it's not nice
[02:34] <guigouz> DSL is great for old hardware.
[02:34] <secleinteer> also, slackware is perfectly friendly
[02:34] <Mijit> its a 500mz compaqw presario
[02:34] <Tutter> if the shoe fits... :)
[02:34] <Serfalyx> Try Xubuntu first - XFCE is *much lighter than gnome
[02:34] <secleinteer> or you can try xubuntu, of course ;0
[02:35] <guigouz> xubuntu seems nice.
[02:35] <xjjk> hallo, does debian/ubuntu have a package for the php docs?
[02:35] <xjjk> if so what is called... I'm not finding it
[02:35] <shiv> How do I create a link of a Wine Program on desktop?
[02:35] <Mijit> thanks you guys
[02:35] <LeSin> anyone at all have any knowledge on helping me open a "current locale (UTF-8)" file?
[02:35] <madewokherd> shiv: easiest thing is probably to make a shell script that starts it and then link to that :/
[02:36] <OtavioRibeiro> hi for all, how can i play a m4a/mp4 file using totem with gstreammer?
[02:36] <magus_x> hey, anyone got a fix for the low microphone volume bug?
[02:36] <Mijit> ok, now i try to get a wireless card working, afk a while
[02:36] <Awsoonn> I'm having trouble getting Ubunto Installer to run. I have an ATI x700 video card and x server fails to start when i run the live CD.
[02:36] <Masqy> how can I get my PPP connection (PPTP) to reconnect automatically when itdisconnects?
[02:36] <jimmygoon> awsoon use the alternate disc :)
[02:36] <Serfalyx> shiv: You can try installing binfmt-support and then adding the .exe extension to map to /usr/bin/wine  - then just link it.
[02:36] <Serfalyx> shiv: Not sure if that'll work for a desktop link but it's worth a shot
[02:37] <secleinteer> that's weird though; i got it to run just fine with an x300
[02:37] <odla> Awsoonn: you could try to manually configure X, either through editing xorg.conf or running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:37] <tamale_> what files are explicitly called on a normal boot up to check what services should be started?
[02:37] <jimmygoon> odla- but he has to get it installed first ;) hence the alternative disc :P
[02:37] <odla> jimmygoon: no he doesn't
[02:37] <Awsoonn> *looks up teh alt disc*
[02:38] <secleinteer> lol
[02:38] <odla> jimmygoon: alt+ctrl+backspace restarts X
[02:38] <yoshiznit123> hey everybody, what's the best way to test out edgy?
[02:38] <jimmygoon> you can edit those durring the live session? ---
[02:38] <odla> jimmygoon: yup
[02:38] <jimmygoon> but also wouldn't he have to do the whole hting again after he actually gets it installed
[02:38] <ompaul> yoshiznit123, download and play with it
[02:38] <secleinteer> you don't need to; you can just edit the iso before burning
[02:38] <Serfalyx> tamale: the /etc/rc?.d directories contain links to "services" in /etc/init.d  - when you start up, you'll probably be in runlevel 2, so try /etc/rc2.d
[02:38] <ryanakca> yoshiznit123: #ubuntu+1 for edgy talk
[02:38] <jimmygoon> or does the install use the config from the live session?
[02:38] <odla> jimmygoon: bingo
[02:38] <yoshiznit123> ompaul, should i reinstall with an edgy cd or just upgrade with apt-get or...
[02:38] <tamale_> Serfalyx:  THANK YOU
[02:38] <yoshiznit123> ryanakcaL ok
[02:38] <magus_x> hey, anyone got a fix for the low microphone volume bug?
[02:39] <jimmygoon> odla- huh! thats news to me :S
[02:39] <Awsoonn> What is differant about the alt instilation CD?
[02:39] <secleinteer> it lets u do extra stuff
[02:39] <Awsoonn> and how will it help me?
[02:39] <jimmygoon> awsoonn - its a text interface, hence not needing the X config to be perfect
[02:39] <tamale_> Awsoonn: The alternate cd contains more ubuntu than the standard CD.
[02:39] <ompaul> yoshiznit123, you need to understand it is not stable -- you are risking your data using it - so ehh get the CD
[02:39] <jimmygoon> then once you have it installed you can tweak it
[02:39] <ompaul> yoshiznit123, and before you start go to #ubuntu+1
[02:39] <secleinteer> jimmygoon: when x didnt work on my old computer, i just installed breezy and upgraded ;)
[02:39] <jimmygoon> hmm
[02:40] <Awsoonn> brezzy did work before
[02:40] <secleinteer> but don't do taht
[02:40] <secleinteer> a clean install is always better
[02:40] <secleinteer> if i'd known, i wouldntve done it
[02:40] <Awsoonn> but I tosted teh drive and opted to start over. and gave my breezy disc away
[02:40] <yoshiznit123> ompaul, i understand the risks, i don't have any data on this computer, and i'd like to help out :-)
[02:40] <odla> Awsoonn: do you have your breezy xorg.conf file?
[02:40] <jimmygoon> you could just try to grab the xorg.conf from it
[02:40] <jimmygoon> :P
[02:40] <Awsoonn> nupe
[02:40] <odla> Awsoonn: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and see if that works
[02:40] <jimmygoon> that stinks :(
[02:41] <ighost> anyone know how i can fix a problem with my /etc/hosts file that causes sudo to not work?
[02:41] <ompaul> yoshiznit123, move out of here to the edgy channel --    #ubuntu+1 and you can work with them
[02:41] <secleinteer> what happens if x doesn't load on the dapper live cd? u just get a terminal?
[02:41] <Serfalyx> ighost: What's it doing?
[02:41] <yoshiznit123> ompaul, k thanks
[02:41] <ighost> serfalyx: sudo: unable to lookup moo via gethostbyname()
[02:41] <ighost> serfalyx: moo is my pc's name
[02:42] <magus_x> how can i set the amixer capture mux all to 100%?
[02:42] <Serfalyx> ighost: what command are you trying to execute?
[02:42] <ighost> serfalyx: i'm trying to do sudo nano /etc/hosts so i can change it back
[02:43] <Awsoonn> I have another more pressing issue too, aftet Xserver fails to start, its hard for me to explain, but th e  text does not wrap on the screen correctly.
[02:43] <Serfalyx> ighost: can you do 'sudo bash' and get a shell?
[02:43] <secleinteer> aswsoon: modify ur monitor settings
[02:43] <ighost> serfalyx: no
[02:43] <ighost> serfalyx: i can't do sudo anything
[02:43] <secleinteer> there should be buttons on its front
[02:44] <Awsoonn> like, the screen is wider than it should be and when I hit return, the next line doens show up on the left of the screen but rather goes to teh right side then cuts off and continues on the left a line down
[02:44] <Awsoonn> ok, how do I do that?
[02:44] <ompaul> Serfalyx, please do not suggest that - suggest sudo -i if you must :-)
[02:44] <Awsoonn> should I set my resolution to 800x600?
[02:44] <ompaul> ighost, did you set a root passowrd?
[02:44] <Serfalyx> ompaul:  Sorry, I like to cut to the chase ;)
[02:45] <ighost> ompaul: i never did sudo passwd root if that's what you mean
[02:45] <Jeruvy> Awsoonn: sure
[02:45] <magus_x> how can i set the amixer capture mux all to 100%?? please...
[02:45] <damian_> I want to start a program that has a gui when KDE starts but I need to be superuser...is there a way to do this?
[02:46] <ompaul> ighost, did you edit the /etc/sudoers file - if not is the user you are currently using the first user that was created onthe machine?
[02:46] <Tsukino> damian: gksudo
[02:46] <secleinteer> aswooonn: you have to mess with the buttons on the front of your monitor
[02:46] <ighost> ompaul: no i didn't edit it, yes it is the first user
[02:46] <Awsoonn> here goes nothing I'm gonna give it a shot, thank you all.
[02:46] <secleinteer> i had the exact same problem with it beign too wide
[02:46] <ighost> ompaul: this user used to be able to sudo before i changed the /etc/hosts file
[02:47] <J2D2> Hi, i have an external hard drive and i just reformatted it. How do i add regular user permissions so i can add and deleat things?
[02:47] <secleinteer> aswoonn: good luck :D
[02:47] <ompaul> ighost, okay reboot into single user mode and return it to the condition it was in
[02:47] <HeXiOn> Warbo: my problem with the screen is still there :( I removed the line [Option "DPMS"]  and it still gets off :(
[02:48] <HeXiOn> any idea?
[02:49] <Warbo> HeXiOn: Wow, you just caught me as I was changing desktops. Other than ending the gnome-screensaver option I don't know
[02:49] <damian_> Tsukino: I want the program to run at startup but I don't want it to ask me for my root password, do I need to edit the sudoers file?
[02:49] <OtavioRibeiro> someone knows what i have to compile or download to get a m4a file playing on totem-gstreammer?
[02:50] <HeXiOn> :( I gues it's a bug or something
[02:50] <J2D2> i know i've asked this before, but i just formatted my external harddrive and i need to add permission to my regular user to r and w ....how?
[02:50] <Warbo> *process, not option
[02:50] <Serfalyx> J2D2: Is the drive mounted and formatted?
[02:50] <OtavioRibeiro> J2D2: use chown and chmod to do that
[02:50] <J2D2> yes seraphim
[02:50] <J2D2> er
[02:50] <Serfalyx> J2D2: Oh, you said it was formatted..
[02:50] <J2D2> Serfalyx
[02:51] <joshuaos> Hello!
[02:51] <OtavioRibeiro> J2D2: with sudo or root
[02:51] <Serfalyx> j2d2: What OtavioRibeiro said
[02:51] <J2D2> so just chmod 777 the drive?
[02:51] <J2D2> okay
[02:51] <J2D2> :)
[02:51] <J2D2> cando, thanks
[02:51] <Warbo> J2D2: If it is a Linux format then just set the folder permissions like normal. If it is FAT then put "-o uid=yourusername" on the mount command, or put that in fstab without the "-o"
[02:51] <Serfalyx> J2D2: Well, do you need 777?  Can you use a group at least?
[02:51] <OtavioRibeiro> J2D2: no... the better is use the chown username:usergroup * -R
[02:51] <glick> hi
[02:52] <Warbo> hello
[02:52] <glick> is it me or is there some serious things broken/not working correctly in kubuntu?
[02:52] <joshuaos> So I'm trying to get my bluetooth headset working, and I think I'm really close... the pin dialog goes well, but then I'm not actually paired and btsco gets an "authentication error".
[02:52] <OtavioRibeiro> J2D2: and then use the chmod 754 * -R
[02:52] <OtavioRibeiro> J2D2: or something like that!
[02:52] <J2D2> okay, thanks guys
[02:52] <ompaul> OtavioRibeiro, it is -R *
[02:52] <Pulshion> Could someone help me convert mov to avi using mencoder i use this option "mencoder -ovc xvid -oac mp3lame -xvidencopts bitrate=256 -lameopts br=64 -o test.avi /home/dmitriy/DSCN1045.mov" And everytime i get a cannot open avi file...thanx
[02:53] <Warbo> joshuaos: i think I had to add my PIN to a config file in /etc to get it to authenticate (/etc/bluez.conf or something probably)
[02:53] <OtavioRibeiro> ompaul: not matter! Will work with both ways!
[02:53] <hollero> is there any way so that ubuntu automatically reconnects to wireless access points after a single successful connection?
[02:53] <ompaul> OtavioRibeiro, ahh I did not know that one - -al after the files hmm should have been obvious
[02:53] <J2D2> also, another stupid question. How do i add a trashcan icon to my desktop?
[02:53] <Warbo> Pulshion: That gives an AVI using the Xvid codec, and MP3 for sound. Make sure you have those codecs available in your media player
[02:54] <Pulshion> Warbo -- it cannot open the file, i have those codecs
[02:54] <BurningClaws> i've to say that xgl sux, nothing special
[02:54] <BurningClaws> rather i use fb and eterm
[02:54] <Pulshion> Warbo -- i think it gets corrupted or something
[02:54] <Warbo> J2D2: Go in Alacarte and enable Configuration Editor in System Tools, then open it and go on apps>nautilus>desktop
[02:54] <MasterM> Hello
[02:54] <J2D2> thanks Warbo
[02:55] <MasterM> I tried Ubuntu but I just prefer Windows. it's sad really
[02:55] <Warbo> Pulshion: Try playing it with mplayer, since mplayer should be able to handle anything mencoder can output
[02:55] <Serfalyx> MasterM: Thanks for trying
[02:55] <BurningClaws> MasterM: i don't think so
[02:55] <MasterM> you dont think so?
[02:55] <Pulshion> Warbo -- i always use it and it says seek failed
[02:55] <ompaul> known troll
[02:55] <J2D2> yeah MasterM its not a big deal, just you usually like it if you /know/ what your doing or have the /try/ to learn what your doing :)
[02:55] <Walzmyn> Hello, i'm having trouble wth KDE after a recent update, has anybody else had thei problem?
[02:55] <Jaykul> ok, so I added a couple of new hard drives ... and in the process, moved my boot disk from hda to ... hdc ... and now I get a bunch of mount failed ... followed by "filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init" and a BusyBox prompt.
[02:55] <Serfalyx> ompaul: Heh
[02:56] <kaatil> um.... J2D2 masterm is gone. :)
[02:56] <Warbo> Jaykul: Change "root=/dev/hdaX" to "root=/dev/hdcX" in GRUB
[02:56] <Warbo> (on the "kernel" line)
[02:56] <ompaul> rob, got a moment?
[02:56] <J2D2> kaatil, i was lagging big time then
[02:56] <kaatil> what different between hda and hdc?
[02:56] <kaatil> *curious*
[02:56] <kaatil> heh j2d2
[02:56] <J2D2> c and a :)
[02:57] <kaatil> pfft.
[02:57] <ompaul> rob, forget it, sorry that is for seveas
[02:57] <Jaykul> basically ... I plugged the boot drive into a different IDE cable
[02:57] <Serfalyx> kaatil: Different ATA devices
[02:57] <Walzmyn> Hda = primary master harddrive, HDC = a different drive
[02:57] <kaatil> ah
[02:57] <kaatil> ok
[02:57] <kaatil> thanks
[02:57] <Jaykul> or in this case, into the other end
[02:57] <Warbo> kaatil: hda=first IDE cable first drive, hdb=first IDE cable second drive, hdc= second cable first drive hdd=second cable second drive
[02:57] <kaatil> that interesting
[02:57] <Jaykul> it's not interesting .. it's annoying :-p
[02:57] <jordanau> I am about to build hplip from source and it says to remove the previous version, is that simply doing an apt-get remove hplip???
[02:57] <kaatil> heh
[02:57] <kaatil> *pat* jaykul*
[02:57] <Serfalyx> jordanau: If that's how you installed it, yes
[02:58] <s0undt3ch> is there a text based installer in xubuntu?
[02:58] <jordanau> Serfalyx, it is built in to ubuntu
[02:58] <jordanau> Serfalyx, pre-installed is probably a better word
[02:58] <Warbo> Jaykul: You can change that in GRUB by pressing "e" on the menu entry, then make it permanent by changing /boot/grub/menu.lst when the system is up
[02:58] <Jaykul> I don't think I'm actually running grub
[02:58] <Pulshion> Warbo -- it says "Seek Failed"
[02:59] <kaatil> pre-installed = as in already come with the computer.
[02:59] <Jaykul> I'll double check, but that will require running down to the basement where the server is ;-)
[02:59] <jordanau> kaatil, yes
[02:59] <Serfalyx> jordanau: Should still be able to remove it...not sure what will go with it though if you try.
[02:59] <Jaykul> since it won't boot properly
[02:59] <kaatil> :p
[02:59] <Warbo> Pulshion: I don't know what would cause that then, sorry :( (maybe try a different codec, but I only use xvid in mencoder. "man mencoder" is HUGE by the way)
[03:00] <jordanau> Serfalyx, nothin but ubuntu-desktop (fresh install got rid of broadcom drivers and went back to good ole ndiswrapper)
[03:00] <Pulshion> Warbo -- do i need to install any other apps?
[03:00] <|BLaDE|> oh oh oh ...beachball on ESPN
[03:00] <Warbo> Ah, I hate ndiswrapper when there are native drivers available (but never tried setting up broadcom though)
[03:01] <Serfalyx> jordanau: Hmm..that doesn't sound like something you want to uninstall
[03:01] <Warbo> Pulshion: I wouldn't know. I try to use ffmpeg2theora to encode my movies (that obviously encodes them to theora, not avi though)
[03:01] <Warbo> Pulshion: You may try vlc
[03:01] <kaatil> i should be thankful that i am on DSL so i can get iso and burn off on CD.
[03:01] <Warbo> !info vlc
[03:01] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player for all audio and video formats. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 7620 kB, installed size 18808 kB
[03:01] <jordanau> Warbo, yeah I can't get bcm43xx-fwcutter to work so i went back to what i knew did work
[03:01] <BrokenPipe> I just installed Ubuntu, but I can't figure out which package for the flash player to install to work with firefox.  All seem to not work with youtube.com.  Any pointers to documentation on this?
[03:01] <Warbo> Pulshion: VLC can "play" into a file, so you could tell it to play into an AVI file
[03:02] <kaatil> vlc seem work only for mozilla but not firefox.. last time i check.
[03:02] <jordanau> Serfalyx, ubuntu-desktop is okay to uninstall... how long have you been using ubuntu??
[03:02] <kaatil> vlc plugin that is
[03:02] <Pulshion> Warbo -- is there a program that is user friendly something like Movie maker in windo$e? I was trying to slowmotion like 20 frames in wmv
[03:02] <Warbo> BrokenPipe: flashplugin-nonfree is the only Adobe/Macromedia Flash, the others are Free alternatives
[03:02] <Serfalyx> jordanau: I dunno - few months I guess.  Just haven't ever uninstalled ubuntu-desktop is all :)
[03:03] <Warbo> kaatil: Who in their right mind would use a plugin though? :)
[03:03] <kaatil> why's that?
[03:03] <Tonren> Hey guys, can anyone walk me through getting wireless installed with ndiswrapper?  I've been through the wiki install process 4 or 5 times, I got rid of the shitty broadcom drivers, but it's still not working.
[03:03] <jordanau> Serfalyx, yeah you only need it when you have to upgrade to the next release
[03:03] <scrooge_74>  #debian
[03:03] <Serfalyx> jordanau: Ah
[03:04] <Warbo> Pulshion: VLC would probably do that. It has loads of options, all in a graphical interface. There is an option to save to a file, and there is probably an option to change the play speed (heck, it can even make the movie wave up and down!)
[03:04] <scrooge_74>  #debian.org
[03:04] <jordanau> Serfalyx, you scared me, i thought you didn't know what you were talking about for a second and i had just removed those packags
[03:04] <Warbo> kaatil: Movie Player == Movie Player, Web Browser == Web Browser, that is my opinion
[03:04] <kaatil> lol
[03:04] <kaatil> ok
[03:04] <Pulshion> Warbo -- ok thanx, ill play around with that...
[03:05] <Serfalyx> jordanau: What?  This isn't the BeOS channel??
[03:05] <jordanau> Serfalyx, haha
[03:05] <kaatil> BeOs? i thought it was dead? hmm
[03:05] <Warbo> Long live Haiku!
[03:05] <damian_> i need to run a program at KDE startup that needs root priviledges but I can't have it ask for my password, how do I do this??
[03:05] <cry0gen> bbl
[03:05] <kaatil> i heard that beos has been abodan(spelling?) by a lead programmer or something.. i forgot what it was all about
[03:06] <kaatil> pfft
[03:06] <Leeif> plz tell me: kde=qt,kdm gnome=gtk,gdm xfce=???
[03:06] <damian_> Leeif: xfce=crap
[03:06] <Warbo> BeOS has ceased official development, but there is a Free Software replacement called Haiku which is based on BeOS code
[03:06] <HeXiOn> I've searched in the Power Management Preference's help and I see I haven't an option the help pictures have: "Put display to sleep when computer is inactive for: X minutes"  I think it's my problem. What can I do to enable that option??? dpkg-reconfigure gnome-power-management ????
[03:07] <orko> Im tossing up whether to leave warty running on an old DL360 (newer kernels require cpqarray compiled in, for some reason 2.6.8.1 doesn't). Is warty going to continue getting security updates or has that stopped already?
[03:07] <Warbo> Leeif: XFCE uses gtk, and you can use whatever login manager you want
[03:07] <Leeif> warbo: cool
[03:07] <Leeif> warbo: but hasnt it got a default one?
[03:07] <kaatil> my login manager will have initidmating demon background on it.. make sure no one touch it except myself. :)
[03:08] <Leeif> warbo: i know i can boot up kde with gdm, but...
[03:08] <kaatil> wait.. fuffy bear of course.
[03:08] <Warbo> Leeif: Xubuntu will obviously install one. I haven't tried but my bet would be on GDM
[03:08] <Warbo> XFCE itself doesn't have one, that is just Xubuntu's choice
[03:08] <Leeif> warbo: ok
[03:09] <Leeif> warbo: i dunno. i wanna try it coz ppl say it's fast... what do u think?
[03:09] <kaatil> hmph... what up with [000f]  symbol with font?
[03:09] <WayCool> How much RAM and what CPU is recomended to have the Ubuntu 6.06 run fast?
[03:09] <Fastly> i really need to dual boot between ubuntu and windows and would like to share the same home folder data between both... would it be best to use a fat32 partition for data that i want to share?
[03:09] <kaatil> i noticed some font are missing that up with box and hex code on it like this [000F] 
[03:10] <damian_> ryanakca: I know, I just wanted to know what the arrow > did
[03:10] <Serfalyx> Fastly: fat32 will probably work the best, yes.
[03:10] <Warbo> Leeif: I don't really like it. Fluxbox is very usable in my opinion. It doesn't have as many features as XFCE, but it works in a logical way (in XFCE I find myself trying to use it's features, but they all work "wrong")
[03:10] <Fastly> thanks Ser
[03:10] <scrappy_> WayCool: i would think like at least 256mb and a 1ghz proc or better but theres always xubuntu..
[03:10] <kaatil> damian: think this as picture  strong man > weak man you push the foods right down into this weak man's mouth.
[03:10] <HeXiOn> Warbo:  I've searched in the Power Management Preference's help and I see I haven't an option the help pictures have: "Put display to sleep when computer is inactive for: X minutes"  I think it's my problem. What can I do to enable that option??? dpkg-reconfigure gnome-power-management ????
[03:11] <excitatory> is there a way to generate a text file list of installed packages?
[03:11] <kaatil> my example is not that great. :(
[03:11] <Warbo> HeXiOn: Have you tried help.ubuntu.com/community?
[03:11] <WayCool> scrappy: so xubuntu has lower sys requirements?
[03:11] <Serfalyx> excitatory: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l
[03:11] <scrappy_> excitatory: dpkg -l > file.txt maybe
[03:11] <Serfalyx> ( I hate dpkg output )
[03:11] <HeXiOn> Warbo: yes, I've searched the whole net :( wikys.. support... forums...
[03:12] <damian_> what's the difference between free and open source software
[03:12] <Warbo> HeXiOn: I wouldn't know what to suggest then sorry :(
[03:12] <HeXiOn> Warbo: ok, thanks for your help :)
[03:12] <scrappy_> WayCool: yes its a choice xfce and gnome
[03:12] <Warbo> Free = copyleft, philosophy, ethics, etc. Open Source = good programs, cheap, less bugs, etc.
[03:12] <blkcamarozr28>  Is there away to do a media check for the 64bit iso's on a 32bit system?
[03:13] <Serfalyx> damian_: Free usually means you can take the code and do what you want with it.  OpenSource usually means you can use/change the code with restrictions
[03:13] <HeXiOn> I'll try the dpkg-reconfigure and dpkg -r to reinstall or remove the power management
[03:13] <kaatil> open source = good program? hmm
[03:13] <Warbo> I mean the aims of the movements
[03:13] <kaatil> yeah serf
[03:13] <kaatil> heh warbo. ok
[03:13] <WayCool> scrappy: is there an "official" recomendation for hardware to use with Ubuntu 6.06?
[03:13] <HeXiOn> bye :)
[03:13] <jordanau> Serfalyx, thanks for the advice, my printer now works
[03:13] <drbreen> waycool: there are compatibility lists
[03:13] <Serfalyx> jordanau: Excellent!
[03:14] <scrappy_> WayCool: im not sure.  i have ran ubuntu on a 750 mhz pentium and 128 ram. its usable but gnome isnt very snappy without at least 256mb ram imo
[03:14] <banshee412> anyone know what package contains the 'strings' command?
[03:15] <WayCool> scrappy: not very snapy but still reasonably usable?
[03:15] <Serfalyx> banshee412: binutils
[03:15] <Warbo> banshee412: Try installing and running apt-file
[03:15] <scrappy_> WayCool: on the flip side ive ran ubuntu without gnome and used fluxbox instead on a p133 with 16mb ram
[03:15] <Warbo> !info apt-file
[03:15] <ubotu> apt-file: APT package searching utility -- command-line interface. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.0.7ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 11 kB, installed size 92 kB
[03:15] <mwe> banshee412: binutils
[03:15] <scrappy_> WayCool: yes but id go with xubuntu first if you dont like it you can just do 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' and youll have a normall ubuntu install
[03:16] <banshee412> thanks guys
[03:17] <WayCool> scrappy: do you feel that a p3 (~1Ghz) and 256Mb is enough to get good performance out of Ubuntu 6.06?
[03:17] <sb> good performance for what?
[03:17] <Warbo> Quake4 ;)
[03:18] <blkcamarozr28> Waycool: try check out Xubuntu :) It runs XFCE, its a very light weight windows manager :)
[03:18] <WayCool> sb: good performance for general use
[03:18] <Serfalyx> WayCool: You're definitely better off with XFCE or one of the other lightweight window managers.  Gnome and KDE are pigs and will just bog that box down
[03:18] <Warbo> WayCool: Still generic. Do you regularly word process, or video edit?
[03:19] <scrappy_> WayCool: it would be fine. you might install xubuntu-desktop too and just choose between the two at login by clicking on the sessions button see which you like. on the other hand there are less bloated distros out there..
[03:20] <WayCool> Warbo: some word processing, internet browsing, AND usning Sun's Java environment ***
[03:20] <Tsukino> any idea why the installation of Ubuntu would cause more heat than the Live CD?
[03:21] <AAA> Tsukino  is it a laptop?  Is the fan running?
[03:21] <WayCool> So guys, do you feel that the main thing that slows a system down is the desktop environment? And if so are Gnome and KDE really that nice to put up with the drop in performance?
[03:22] <AAA> WayCool  there is 100 ways to answer that question.  For most newer computers, yes they are worth it
[03:22] <[soL] cssArticuno> is there a way to keep terminals open after they are used for launcher?
[03:22] <Serfalyx> WayCool: IMHO, yes, the window managers are mostly what's going to cause your average modern distro to be slow.  No, IMHO it's not worth it.  I hate waiting for machiens
[03:22] <sb> waycool it slows things down like dragging windows, and consumes much ram, but it doesn't slow down non-gui things
[03:23] <Serfalyx> WayCool: ( When using X that is )
[03:23] <sb> it's relatively easy to get a nice lean gui going if you care
[03:23] <BenrightB4> hey, i am on here all the time, sorry to have so many questions... but i am trying to figure out how to get php to work on my server, but i cant find all the phpmod and things to install for it
[03:23] <AAA> it really just depends what you want to do with the box
[03:23] <Tsukino> AAA: it is a laptop, and the fan doesn't run on either one. For some reason the laptop is cooler if I run Ubuntu's Live CD than if I run Ubuntu on my hard drive
[03:23] <sb> If people want to spend extra CPU+ram on transparent, glowing windows, that jiggle when they move more power to them
[03:24] <AAA> Tsukino  maybe the HDD is right under your leg and you feel it when it is working
[03:24] <sb> it creates a market where I can get fast cpu/graphics cheap, and get blazing performance when I don't need a heavy gui
[03:24] <sb> so all you gamers out there
[03:24] <Tsukino> the processor runs hotter as well
[03:24] <Tsukino> actually the hard drive area doesn't get hotter
[03:24] <sb> buy giant LCDs, $600 video cards, and 4-8 core systems with 2 expensive SLI cards
[03:25] <odla> anyone know if you can monitor cpu frequency scaling for a 2.3 GHz celeron?
[03:25] <sb> 200 FPS will make you a better gamer (even if you can only see 60)
[03:25] <Awsoonn> I'm back :(
[03:25] <AAA> Tsukino  odd,
[03:25] <sb> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[03:25] <gil> i am having problems setting up WPA-PSK on a DI-524
[03:25] <gil> does anyone have experience with this
[03:25] <[soL] cssArticuno> fps_max 72
[03:25] <WayCool> Ok, so if I don't care about flashy pictures but want a lean but fully functional machine, then what windows manager would you recomend and is Ubuntu my best choice?
[03:25] <Tsukino> yeah, it's really odd.. I've heard others say the same about their laptops in the Ubuntu forums
[03:25] <orbin> odla: one way to find out...
[03:25] <sb> waycool there's one available at the login screen
[03:25] <Tsukino> for some reason the Live CD runs much cooler
[03:25] <BenrightB4> anybody here using .php pages on their ubuntu server?
[03:25] <sb> much leaner
[03:25] <sb> er, xfce4 I think
[03:26] <greddy> anyone ever setup an ss5 server, or any other socks5 server on ubuntu
[03:26] <sb> it comes with a particularly lean xfce4-term or similar
[03:26] <Awsoonn> When I am runnign the instalation CD the screen blinks, as in it gos black for a few seconds and then returns. How do i fix it?
[03:26] <odla> orbin: how?
[03:26] <deitarion> A friend of mine accidentally wiped his /etc/apt/sources.list and I'm using Gentoo. Could someone please send me a replacement copy for him?
[03:26] <Serfalyx> Tsukino: I guess it's possible that the CPU is running hotter because it's not spending half its life waiting for data to crawl off that CD
[03:26] <secleinteer> when manually partitioning with a / partition and a /home partition, where should the swap partition go?
[03:26] <gil> i neef help wih DI-524
[03:26] <orbin> odla: add the freq applet to your panel
[03:27] <secleinteer> the beginning or the end?
[03:27] <odla> orbin: oh well that doesn't work :_
[03:27] <WayCool> sb: so xfce4 is you preference then?
[03:27] <sb> well ubuntu already has it, so yeah
[03:27] <scrappy_> secleinteer: it used to be swap firs on the hd but you wont really notice a diff where you put it
[03:27] <sb> there are tons of lean window managers, but it's small, light, fast, and already installed (or at least apt-get able)
[03:28] <secleinteer> ok
[03:28] <secleinteer> thx
[03:28] <sb> it doesn't have a 4014 emulator built into each terminal ;-)
[03:28] <Serfalyx> sbi: Heh!
[03:28] <axolx> hey guys - i just installed ubuntu 6.06 base and i dont have a /etc/resolv.conf file. do i need to install a specific package? or how do i set up name resolution?
[03:28] <cafuego> xfce4 is not a lean window manager; it's a lean desktop environment
[03:29] <tandy> hey oes anyone know if there is some kind of byte limit u can transfer over scp
[03:29] <tandy> or if there i setting to change it
[03:29] <cafuego> axolx: Edit it with a text editor (create it)
[03:29] <[soL] cssArticuno> when i check the "run in terminal" option after creating a launcher, why does the terminal window close?
[03:29] <Tsukino> it's possible, but my laptop runs 3 degrees cooler idling on the Live CD, other people have had their laptops running over 10 degrees cooler
[03:29] <Serfalyx> tandy: Shouldn't be
[03:29] <secleinteer> does any1 know how much space a normal install will take on my hd?
[03:29] <tandy> I get a connection error every so often when im transferring lot of files
[03:29] <cafuego> secleinteer: Around 2GB
[03:29] <tandy> trying to figure out wut it is
[03:29] <secleinteer> ok
[03:29] <secleinteer> th
[03:29] <secleinteer> thx*
[03:29] <Serfalyx> Tsukino: Odd.  I don't have any better ideas
[03:30] <Awsoonn> i'm trying to install Ubuntu and Xserver will not load and the screen blinks, any help? I cant even work wiht the commandline becasue of the annoying blinking.
[03:30] <scrappy_> [soL] cssArticuno: what are you running?
[03:30] <blind> Okay, I have a second monitor hooked up through a separate video card, and only one is working. How do I hook up the second one?
[03:30] <[soL] cssArticuno> ubuntu 6.06
[03:30] <tandy> I was connected to windows machine transferrnfiles and every now and then it eorrors saying host isnt responding
[03:30] <orbin> odla: i dunno if this is the exact way of checking, but what does this say:  grep throttling /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/info
[03:30] <cyphase> what's a good bandwidth shaping app?
[03:31] <axolx> cafuego: i edited it, but still dont get name resolution. do i need to install a package to get name resolution?
[03:31] <cyphase> so that, for example, internet radio can have a higher priority then bittorrent
[03:31] <[soL] cssArticuno> scrappy_ ubuntu 6.06
[03:31] <BrokenPipe> Is it completely hopeless to get flash sound to play nice with ALSA, without closing all over sound producing programs?
[03:32] <scrappy_> [soL] cssArticuno: i mean what are you launching?
[03:32] <potato_> How can I setup software raid ?
[03:32] <[soL] cssArticuno> steam via wine
[03:32] <cyphase> BrokenPipe: no
[03:32] <cafuego> axolx: Nono, you need to add the dns server into in resolv.conf. "nameserver ip.of.name.server"
[03:32] <cyphase> BrokenPipe: 1 second, and i'll give you a link
[03:32] <WayCool> sb: do you feel that a p3 (~1Ghz) and 256Mb is enough to get good performance out of Ubuntu 6.06? again I must be able to run Java quickly (Sun's env)
[03:32] <axolx> cafuego: ah. i think i know what the problem may be. i need to add a default route to the routing table
[03:33] <cyphase> BrokenPipe: http://www.macewan.org/2006/06/01/howto-firefox-flash-video-sound-on-ubuntu-linux-dapper/
[03:33] <Serfalyx> potato_: Have a look at mdadm
[03:33] <cafuego> WayCool: You'll kinda want double the ram.
[03:33] <axolx> cafuego: yup. that was it.
[03:33] <Shrimp> hello
[03:33] <Shrimp> I have a question
[03:33] <sb> 256MB is tight, okay for java as long as your running nothing else
[03:33] <slid3r> what media player can view wmv's right outta the box?
[03:33] <kaatil> heh
[03:33] <sb> but painful for tons of firefox tabs, openoffice, and eclipse
[03:33] <kaatil> i currently have 512 ram i think.. good enough i think
[03:33] <kaatil> i gonna bumb it up later
[03:33] <kaatil> bump rather
[03:33] <Awsoonn> slid3r: VLC
[03:33] <WayCool> sb: so 512?
[03:34] <scrappy_> [soL] cssArticuno: i think that would be peculiar to whatever you launch
[03:34] <Shrimp> I have a PC with 4GB of ram I would like to test a ubuntu live CD on it (not installing it) would it mess up my current PCs configuration?
[03:34] <ChakRa> nop
[03:34] <damian_> Shrimp: holy crap
[03:34] <damian_> Shrimp: 4 gb!
[03:34] <Ronz> Shrimp, can i touch you?
[03:34] <[soL] cssArticuno> scrappy_: in the last distro i had, there was a "keep terminal window open" option
[03:34] <kaatil> heh ronz
[03:34] <axolx> what are the default apt sources for drapper? i installed from CD and now have internet connection
[03:35] <kaatil> i wish i has 4gb of ram.. i think it work for x64?
[03:35] <Serfalyx> Shrimp: Just running the live CD will leave your current system untouched
[03:35] <kaatil> or it can work on x86 too?
[03:35] <cyphase> BrokenPipe: is it working?
[03:35] <kaatil> 4 gb of ram that is
[03:35] <damian_> Shrimp: if i marry you can i share your ram?
[03:35] <Ronz> ....can i still touch you, Shrimp ?   =)
[03:35] <scrappy_> [soL] cssArticuno: im not too familair with nautilus.  the last distro was running gnome?
[03:35] <skypa> any ideas on how to hide the firefox menu?
[03:35] <kaatil> how can you share the ram? pass it around then plug it in for week and give it back? heh
[03:35] <Awsoonn> kaatil: look at the manual for your motherboard, it will tellyou.
[03:35] <kaatil> go to menu editor and hide it. i think
[03:35] <magus_x> how can i set the amixer capture mux all to 100%?? please...
[03:35] <Ronz> ive got 2 gig in my laptop...=)
[03:35] <skypa> I like it slick, but I cant seem to find the option to hide the menu bar in firefox :/
[03:36] <kaatil> ah thanks awsoonn, you are teh awesome
[03:36] <Serfalyx> kaatil: Is that your idea of shared memory? :)
[03:36] <kaatil> heh serf. lol
[03:36] <[soL] cssArticuno> scrappy_: yup
[03:36] <Awsoonn> ok, I have a question now~
[03:36] <Shrimp> alright i'll boot the live CD if I have any problems i'll be back
[03:36] <magus_x> i have too
[03:37] <magus_x> how can i set the amixer capture mux all to 100%?? please...
[03:37] <blind> anyone? :P
[03:37] <BrokenPipe> cyphase: Still trying.
[03:37] <scrappy_> every employee in my office gets laptops with min 1.5 gigs and decent nvidia vid cards what do they do with them?  web browsing and email..
[03:37] <Awsoonn> I;m installing 6.06 and when I boot to teh install CD the screen begins to go black for a few seconds then turn on. no pattern to it.
[03:37] <Awsoonn> X will not start either, but I can't do anythign about that untill I get the screen to stop freaking out.
[03:37] <Ronz> scrappy_, thats a sin against every religion
[03:37] <inc|freaky> i installed ubuntu server edition on my server today ;
[03:37] <inc|freaky> D
[03:37] <blind> scrappy_: you can't browse the web with <1.5ghz machine
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Kubuntu ses my modem on ttyS5... Ubuntu sees it on ttyS36 seems odd...
[03:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Same box
[03:38] <WayCool> cafuego: how much ram do you think I'll need on a p3 @ 1GHz to run Sun's runtime env quickly?
[03:38] <kaatil> ah seem my motherboard support up to 2 gb of ram. interesting
[03:38] <BrokenPipe> cyphase: No sound, and flash now freezes after a small amount of playback. =\
[03:38] <scrappy_> blind: 1.5 gig ram ;p
[03:38] <Jack_Sparrow> blind: since when?
[03:38] <blind> oh jesus
[03:38] <Ronz> WayCool, 4 gb
[03:38] <tvgm2> did the latest 686 kernel update break usb==>ps2 keyboards?
[03:38] <blind> I don't even have 1.5gb ram in my desktop
[03:38] <cyphase> BrokenPipe: did you restart firefox?
[03:38] <jbroome> WayCool: can you get TB's of ram? :)
[03:38] <kaatil> if your motherboard support it
[03:38] <WayCool> tb?
[03:38] <shiv>  I am unable to delete a link from desktop. plz help
[03:39] <BrokenPipe> cyphase: Yes.  And I even tried logging out and back in.
[03:39] <cafuego> WayCool: if you only run the command line (no X, Gnome or KDE) 256Mb should be okay, otherwise you want at least 512Mb.
[03:39] <blind> WayCool: terrabytes
[03:39] <kaatil> you know.. you can get gigabyte card to support 4gb of ram. lol
[03:39] <jbroome> WayCool: terrabytes. :)
[03:39] <Serfalyx> WayCool: You could have installed it and tried it by now :)
[03:39] <Ronz> jbroome, i think you can have supported 64 gb
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> shiv: Is it fro a mounted drive?
[03:39] <shiv> ya
[03:39] <baxter_kylie> Hi guys/gals. I need some help here, specifically keybindings and using multiple languages. Anyone know how to do this
[03:39] <cyphase> BrokenPipe: well, i don't know.. maybe you changed something..
[03:39] <kaatil> wtf, there a motherboard for that? ronz
[03:39] <cyphase> earlier i mean
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> ONe sec, I'll walk you through it.
[03:39] <Ronz> kaatil, yes, its a server mobo
[03:39] <kaatil> ah server
[03:39] <Tonren> Hey guys, can anyone walk me through getting wireless installed with ndiswrapper?  I've been through the wiki install process 4 or 5 times, I got rid of the shitty broadcom drivers, but it's still not working.
[03:40] <Jack_Sparrow> To Remove Icons from Desktop after running Diskmounter Use Terminal and type gconf-editor browse to /apps/nautilus/desktop and uncheck volumes_visable
[03:40] <Awsoonn> Can anyone help me or do I need to go elsewhere? and where can I go for help?
[03:40] <WayCool> Thank's guys :)
[03:40] <kaatil> if it's 64 gb of ram.. i guess that motherboard is expensive then?
[03:40] <Ronz> kaatil, http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=64gb+ram+motherboard&hl=en&lr=&sa=X&oi=froogle&ct=title
[03:40] <Serfalyx> Awsoonn: Have you tried the "safe mode" boot options on the CD?
[03:40] <blind> So yeah, I need some help setting up a dual monitor setup :] 
[03:40] <shiv> Jack_Sparrow: I unmounted it still can't delete the link
[03:40] <kaatil> thx ronz
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> shiv: Look up
[03:41] <kaatil> damn  $1,438.50  for that motherboard
[03:41] <WayCool> Ronz: why 4GB specificaly?
[03:41] <Awsoonn> serf: I have tried teh safe graphical mode, yes. other than that mode no
[03:42] <ScreaminIke> where is the apt cache?
[03:42] <Ronz> WayCool, cause you can be way cool like shrimp
[03:42] <Serfalyx> Awsoonn: I'd start disabling some of the automatic hardware detection - like maybe all of it and see if you can get anything at all to come up
[03:42] <WayCool> :) I don't want anyone touching me :)
[03:42] <Ronz> haha
[03:42] <Awsoonn> what is that flag?
[03:42] <Awsoonn> -noautodetect ?
[03:43] <WayCool> Thank's again guys, you are a blast ! :))
[03:43] <kaatil> to stop detect the hardware automatically
[03:43] <shiv> Jack_Sparrow: What do I look up?
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Awsoonn: Grub Boot Options to try (F6)  ide=nodma vga=normal nomce acpi=off pnpbios=off xdrvr=vesa xres=800x600 apm=off quiet
[03:43] <kaatil> i think
[03:43] <Serfalyx> Awsoonn: Oy - not sure, I'd have to log to fire up the boot CD ;)  There should be a bunch of them in the F2-F4 menus. You're going to have to experiment
[03:43] <tvgm2> did the latest 686 kernel update break usb==>ps2 keyboards?
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Shiv To Remove Icons from Desktop  Use Terminal and type gconf-editor browse to /apps/nautilus/desktop and uncheck volumes_visable
[03:43] <ScreaminIke> where is the apt cache?
[03:43] <skibobdi> awsonn: have you tried oem mode, im doing that now after having similar experience
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Awsoonn: Did you try that?
[03:44] <Serfalyx> ScreaminIke: /var/cache/apt
[03:44] <Awsoonn> I cant rty stuff right now without rebooting
[03:44] <Jack_Sparrow> shiv: Did you try that
[03:44] <Awsoonn> so I have to wirte stuff downand try batches of ideas
[03:44] <shiv> Jack_Sparrow: wait
[03:44] <Serfalyx> Awsoonn: Heh - we're in the same boat.
[03:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Awsoonn: Easier than it sounds...  Do you have pcmcia or USB2?  SATA raids?
[03:45] <Awsoonn> as soon as I get the blinkign to stopr and the screent o fit on the monitor I hope to launch IRC in a terminal. ^_^
[03:45] <Awsoonn> Jack: I do not
[03:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Awsoonn: Checking
[03:46] <jordanau> i love ubuntu once more
[03:46] <orbin> woohoo
[03:46] <gpothier> Hi, I'm new to this channel, I have a question...
[03:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask
[03:46] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:46] <Aphex_Twin> is it possible to launch applications from gnome without having to open a console (i.e. a "run" utility, as it is present in KDE and Windows) ?
[03:46] <Awsoonn> i should note that I never got XORG to work with Gentoo, but it did work fine with Breezy
[03:47] <gpothier> Where can I find the revision history (and diff) of a particular package??
[03:47] <orbin> Aphex_Twin: alt+f2
[03:47] <saltydog> hello all
[03:47] <gpothier> ubotu: thx!
[03:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about thx! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:47] <BurningClaws> ubotu: fuck!
[03:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about fuck! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:47] <bignose_> woo ! finally a linux that doesn't make me want to commit suicide.. you can use that quote.
[03:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Bye Bye
[03:48] <jordanau> !language > BurningClaws
[03:48] <orbin> BurningClaws: keep it clean
[03:48] <gpothier> Hmmm... so ubotu is a bot... logical!
[03:48] <BurningClaws> ok
[03:49] <baxter_kylie> Does anyone know anything about custom key bindings for specific UTF-8 characters?
[03:49] <Jack_Sparrow> shiv: Did that fix the problem you were having
[03:49] <|thunder> i wish i did, id fix my num pad
[03:49] <baxter_kylie> Or alternately does anyone know anything about multiple-language input?
[03:49] <shiv> Jack_Sparrow: no :(
[03:49] <shiv> Jack_Sparrow: I just rebooted still no luck
[03:49] <Jack_Sparrow> shiv: what are you trying to remove?
[03:50] <|thunder> baxter_kylie, you can change your keyboard layout on the fly.
[03:50] <|thunder> system/prefs/kb
[03:50] <|thunder> i think
[03:50] <shiv> a link from my windows c drive application acrobat.exe
[03:50] <gpothier> baxter: in KDE there is a convenient icon in the system tray that lets you change input method...
[03:50] <shiv> Jack_Sparrow: a link from my windows c drive application acrobat.exe
[03:51] <baxter_kylie> @thunder and gpothier: Well I'm not trying to change my keyboard layout --  I'm trying to add custom bindings so that apostrophe + 'a' = accented a and similar.
[03:51] <Serfalyx> I'm out.  G'night all
[03:51] <baxter_kylie> Unless this is the same thing?
[03:51] <gpothier> I'm using the spanish layout and that's exactly what apostroph+a does...
[03:51] <OtavioRibeiro> hi,  what is the best cvs gui client to gnome?
[03:52] <gpothier> But I read some interesting docs a few days ago,wait a minute...
[03:52] <baxter_kylie> gpothier! You may have just made my day.
[03:52] <Jaiwa> hi
[03:53] <baxter_kylie> I don't miss much from my M$ days except region and language settings.... those were a dream.
[03:53] <babo> how do I extract a power ISO file ?
[03:53] <Jaiwa> i'm a ubuntu newbie
[03:54] <gpothier> baxter: this may help you: http://www.jw-stumpel.nl/stestu.html#T6
[03:54] <orbin> OtavioRibeiro: best is relative. try them all out
[03:54] <orbin> welcome Jaiwa
[03:54] <Jaiwa> thanks
[03:54] <Jaiwa> has anyone installed an FTP server?
[03:54] <gpothier> baxter: I don't miss windows regional settings... it's peretty good in kde
[03:55] <orbin> OtavioRibeiro: quick search shows gcvs might be nice
[03:55] <Jaiwa> using proftpd?
[03:55] <OtavioRibeiro> orbin: thanks.. i've downloaded gcvs and will try to use it!
[03:56] <orbin> yw OtavioRibeiro
[03:57] <prakash> hi
[03:57] <eonbleu> I am trying to get apache going on my laptop --- i installed apache2, php5, and mysql5 -- when i go to run a script locally via http, it asks me what I want to use to open a phtml file --- any ideas why?
[03:57] <prakash> i am new to ubuntu
[03:57] <preston> need a good terminal app to display my inittab in color...any takers???
[03:57] <eonbleu> i assumed phtml was a php driven file
[03:58] <|thunder> preston, what have you used previously ?
[03:58] <baxter_kylie> @gpothier: Thank you so much... I need to test this now.
[03:58] <wastrel> my palm pilot won't sync with dapper anymore
[03:59] <scrappy_> preston: you mean the inittab file itself? while editing it?
[03:59] <preston> | thunder: vi, elvis, joe
[03:59] <Tim``> i'm having a problem with sound recording: if i have sounds playing in the backgrond (say, notification sounds on Gaim), and i record sound using Sound Recorder or Audacity, those notification sounds appear on the audio track being recorded: even if the sound output volume on Volume Control is completely muted
[03:59] <Tim``> as if it's doing some kind of "audio-thru" in software - can anyone help?
[04:00] <preston> scrappy_; there are many reasons why I would want to edit my inittab file
[04:00] <scrappy_> preston: i use vim with syntax on
[04:01] <|thunder> Tim``, seems you might be getting the Master Audio, you want Linr-In
[04:01] <|thunder> *line-in
[04:01] <preston> scrappy_: how do I turn syntax highlighting on in vim?
[04:01] <wastrel> preston:  :syntax on
[04:01] <|thunder> vim too hard to use
[04:01] <regeya> 23231
[04:01] <scrappy_> preston: ':syntax on' or edit /etc/vim/vimrc and uncomment it
[04:01] <xxxx_justsomenic> has anyone gotton ubuntu to install into a system with sata drives? i cant even start the live cd
[04:01] <preston> scrappy_: thanks
[04:01] <Tim``> well, in Audacity, it says it's using /dev/dsp and i've tried recording from anything it can: mic, line, volume, CD, etc - all the same
[04:02] <regeya> Tim``: check your mixer levels
[04:02] <|thunder> Tim``, open the volume control.
[04:03] <Tim``> ok, opened
[04:03] <orbin> |thunder: well you've got plenty of choice ;)
[04:03] <|thunder> you can pick which devices are mixed into dsp
[04:03] <xxxx_justsomenic> wow this client is cheesy compared to mirc
[04:03] <preston> scrappy_: that's awesome...I just never really go into the various commands within vim to know how to accomplish this.  This was exactly what I was hoping to see!
[04:03] <|thunder> orbin, ive used nano for as long as I can remember
[04:03] <Tim``> i've tried muting all of them except for mic and it doens't solve it
[04:03] <regeya> Tim``: also, make sure you've .... meh.
[04:03] <Tim``> heh
[04:03] <preston> wastrel: thanks as well!
[04:03] <orbin> xxxx_justsomenic: gaim or xchat?
[04:03] <Tim``> it's been like this for a while, IIRC
[04:03] <xxxx_justsomenic> xchat
[04:03] <Jack_Sparrow> xxxx_justsomenic: Yes sata drives here, NOT raid... work fine
[04:04] <Jack_Sparrow> I prefer Konversation for irc
[04:04] <xxxx_justsomenic> i've tried the i386, amd64, alternate amd64 all bomb
[04:04] <regeya> Konversation is quite nice
[04:04] <orbin> |thunder: *nod* nothing wrong with that
[04:04] <regeya> ...captain sparrow
[04:04] <Jack_Sparrow> xxxx_justsomenic:  Grub Boot Options to try (F6)  ide=nodma vga=normal nomce acpi=off pnpbios=off xdrvr=vesa xres=800x600 apm=off quiet
[04:05] <xxxx_justsomenic> ill try that
[04:05] <|thunder> gotta bust
[04:05] <kevin1> I am trying to burn a DVD-Data Disc with k3b and I am receiving a error: Incorrectly encoded string (ffchen.jpg) encountered.   I there a way i can find/delete the file?  I have no idea what it is or where it is.
[04:06] <preston> scrappy_: to answer your question: to comment out some of the getty lines....don't use or need them
[04:06] <kevin1> I've done a search and I don't come back with anything... I am confused
[04:06] <Rookie-> www.google.com is your best friend *grins*
[04:07] <scrappy_> preston: you can never have too many mingettys man
[04:07] <scrappy_> or gettys i guess
[04:07] <preston> scrappy_: lol...but really, I have no need, plus I get some memory back
[04:08] <kevin1> anyone familar with this error and k3b?
[04:08] <Frankenstein_AFK> kevin1, try installing gstreamerplugins
[04:09] <blind> Can someone help me set up xinerama? :\
[04:09] <Frankenstein_AFK> kevin1, list of what you should need are here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[04:09] <skypa> eww, xinerama
[04:09] <skypa> blind, what graphic card you got?
[04:10] <blind> Two graphics cards.
[04:10] <OtavioRibeiro> blind: what video board do you have?
[04:10] <Frankenstein_AFK> blind, http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Xinerama-HOWTO/start.html
[04:10] <blind> one's an intel onboard.. and one's a trident 3d blade.
[04:10] <orbin> kevin1: sounds like a bad filename to me ...see that squarebox thing?
[04:10] <kevin1> Frankenstein_AFK:  what does this have to do with K3b Burning a DVD?
[04:10] <orbin> kevin1: maybe just rename the file
[04:10] <Frankenstein_AFK> kevin1, a lot... all my problems were fixed after i installed those decoders
[04:11] <kevin1> orbin:  I don't know what the file is or where it is... I've done a search
[04:11] <Rookie-> mount the file and chech it out first, if you cant mount it and check it its most likeliy corrupt
[04:11] <orbin> kevin1: HDD > DVD or DVD > DVD?
[04:11] <kevin1> orbin:  HDD>DVD
[04:11] <orbin> kevin1: and you can't find *ffchen.jpg?
[04:12] <LordOfTheNoobs> blind: Hints : `lspci` to get pci info , /etc/X11/xorg.conf is the thing to edit.  The format is somewhat self evident, obviously you need root to edit it, so sudo your editor.
[04:12] <kevin1> orbin:  nothing
[04:12] <greddy> wow i'm thinking of reformating back to windows linux is pretty rediculous :P
[04:12] <xxxx_justsomenic> well at least now i get failed to set xfermode on all drives rather than a screen full of errors with those options
[04:12] <kevin1> orbin: thats why i am so confused!
[04:12] <blind> LordOfTheNoobs: thanks
[04:13] <greddy> everything seems to take 5 hours to configure and thats if i just dont give up :P
[04:13] <xxxx_justsomenic> ugh im at a # prompt with a blinking cursor. is this supposed to happen when u boot the cd?
[04:13] <Tim``> nah, don't give up greddy
[04:13] <xxxx_justsomenic> i know how u feel greddy
[04:13] <kevin1> orbin:  I have no idea what file it is or why its being added to my datacd project
[04:13] <Tim``> it gets slightly less painful as you go on :p
[04:13] <LordOfTheNoobs> blind: I figured out how to do it using mostly `man xorg.conf`, which I forgot to mention.  Good stuff.
[04:13] <orbin> kevin1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=213967
[04:13] <Frankenstein_AFK> greddy, linux is not windows, and is not point and click... its not for everyone. linux users like it because its not point and click
[04:13] <Tim``> heh
[04:14] <Tim``> perhaps there's a hint of masochism there too :p
[04:14] <greddy> in windows i just dl some freeware program and punch in a few numbers and things just work :/
[04:14] <Tim``> heh
[04:14] <orbin> kevin1: unless that last guy is you
[04:14] <xxxx_justsomenic> but cant it jsut do what is supposed to just a little bit of the time
[04:14] <Tim``> yes
[04:14] <Rookie-> most of the questions here is not about linux at all, it is about Gnome or Kde ....
[04:14] <tamale> does someone have some time to help me troubleshoot an apache problem?  They'd have to browse my website to see the problem.. it's not an http error.
[04:14] <greddy> and now i'm trying to set something up that it seems like no one else has done
[04:14] <Tim``> problem is, you just have to tell it what to do :p
[04:14] <Tim``> heh, i know the feeling greddy
[04:14] <greddy> so i can't even ask for advice
[04:14] <tamale> in firefox the problem is "The conection was reset"
[04:14] <orbin> kevin1: the ffchen.jpg file is there somewhere
[04:14] <Frankenstein_AFK> greddy, what are you trying to set up
[04:15] <greddy> i need a socks5 sever
[04:15] <greddy> basically this is what i'm doing atm
[04:15] <blind> I'm gonna try this, be back later.
[04:15] <kevin1> orbin: nope... but i saw that eariler... didn't help much of anything
[04:15] <greddy> i'm at school using sockscap to get through my school network
[04:15] <greddy> at home i have a box with ubuntu on it
[04:15] <skibobdi> am i right in thinking XGL / Compiz is best for a OpenGL desktop or is there something even BETTER?
[04:15] <greddy> i need a socks5 server on the ubuntu box
[04:15] <Frankenstein_AFK> greddy, i dont do stuff like that :)
[04:15] <xxxx_justsomenic> i give up. ubuntu simply is not going on this machine. And the install went sooo smooth on the Tecra S1
[04:15] <LordOfTheNoobs> Frankenstein_AFK: I don't know about you, but I'd club a baby seal for linux to get some point and click, or at least not completely retarded multiscreen support.  Windows kicks ass in the desktop mutliple screen department.  It can't farm out a giant screen across 16 monitors hooked upto 4 remote machines like X can, but it is wonderfully simple to configure.
[04:16] <greddy> the only socks5 server i could find is ss5
[04:16] <tamale> skibobdi: You'd be hard pressed to find ANY os with better eye candy than xgl  / compiz
[04:16] <greddy> which doesn't seems to be working
[04:16] <scrappy_> xxxx_justsomenic: you could always try edgy :)
[04:16] <greddy> and i have no clue why
[04:16] <kevin1> orbin:  I did start--> search for files *chen.jpg and get nothing when choosing the whole filesystem
[04:16] <Frankenstein_AFK> greddy, try to go to the support places for the paticular software you are using
[04:16] <xxxx_justsomenic> is it available? i dont mind living on the edge a bit
[04:16] <skibobdi> thankyou, ill delve a little deeper now ;)
[04:16] <_cerberus_> Hi all, installing apache2 on Ubuntu i noticed that the default scriptalias is set to /usr/lib/cgi-bin, does anyone know why they put it here rather than the usual /var/www/cgi-bin?
[04:16] <greddy> the only support for it is a forum that gets 1 post every 2 weeks :P
[04:16] <preston> scrappy_: you there?
[04:17] <scrappy_> xxxx_justsomenic: its available but once you get it working fear the update
[04:17] <greddy> i can't belive that there is only 1 program that can be used to setup a socks5 sever
[04:17] <joshuaos> Ok, I'm so close to having my bluetooth headset work now!  I've got it listed as an audio device with btsco and selected in the output plugin of xmms...
[04:17] <preston> scrappy_: haha...another question....how do I turn off 'recording'?
[04:17] <greddy> but i can't find any others
[04:17] <xxxx_justsomenic> ah i hear you. worth a try tho
[04:17] <greddy> and it seems like no one uses them :/
[04:17] <Frankenstein_AFK> greddy, try another software package maybe? or go to ##linux and ask them if they know of any good support places or someone could help you
[04:17] <xxxx_justsomenic> I really want to swtich that box off windows
[04:17] <eonbleu> is there any deb file out there that will automagically compile php into apache for ubuntu?
[04:17] <joshuaos> But when I hit play, it goes to one second and then doesn't play.  I hear a beep in the earpiece and I see in the terminal where I ran btsco:
[04:18] <joshuaos> i/o needed: connecting sco...
[04:18] <greddy> i guess ill try out ##linux
[04:18] <joshuaos> connected SCO channel
[04:18] <preston> scrappy_: nevermind...press 'q' in normal mode
[04:18] <joshuaos> Done setting sco fd
[04:18] <joshuaos> recieved AT+VGS=15
[04:18] <joshuaos> Sending up speaker change 15
[04:18] <_cerberus_> eonbleu, just use synaptic
[04:18] <eonbleu> synaptic?
[04:18] <scrappy_> preston: yeah i had to look that one up :)
[04:19] <tamale> is this the right place to be to get help with apache?
[04:19] <preston> me too
[04:19] <Frankenstein_AFK> eobanb_, apt-cache search php
[04:19] <_cerberus_> in gnome, go System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager
[04:19] <Frankenstein_AFK> tamale, #apache
[04:19] <orbin> kevin1: sudo updatedb
[04:19] <orbin> kevin1: then: locate *chen*.jpg
[04:19] <eonbleu> tamale: well it's a question about apache on UBUNTU
[04:19] <Tim``> ah, i found something: when i mute the PCM channel, the thru gets better - the signal isn't so loud; it's still there though
[04:19] <preston> scrappy_: what's your favorite repo?
[04:19] <tamale> eonbleu:  Yes, it is on ubuntu
[04:19] <eonbleu> _cerberus_: ah, never bothered to use the GUI, figured it was just apt prettified
[04:19] <baxter_kylie> Okay interesting... does anyone know where I can find a list of keyboard layouts for xkeyboard-layout ?
[04:20] <scrappy_> preston: im not picky i like them all equally
[04:20] <_cerberus_> it is more or less, but it makes it easy to browse the repositories
[04:20] <preston> scrappy_: no particular one?  additional ones, not the regular ones
[04:21] <scrappy_> preston: sometimes i add one for certain stuff. wine and then seveas's for freenx but other than that just universe and multiverse
[04:21] <kevin1> orbin:  locate found it... interesting... thanks!
[04:21] <wastrel> is it possible to get my palm pilot to sync with dapper?
[04:22] <orbin> kevin1: my guess is the search utility hasn't updated it's db for a while
[04:22] <orbin> kevin1: if it even has one ... not sure
[04:22] <scrappy_> preston: are there a ton of 'unofficial' ones out there or something?
[04:22] <kevin1> orbin: many thanks!
[04:22] <orbin> kevin1: rename the file, removing the "bad" first char ... shoudl work then
[04:23] <orbin> yw kevin1
[04:23] <darthlukan> hello
[04:23] <Fl0bB> sorry to be interupting the discussion, but I was wondering if someone could help me out a bit with getting ubuntu to boot from a USB-stick (yes ive read the wiki), both pm and channel works for me. thanks in advance :)
[04:23] <Tim``> ah, i've got a bit further: i can mute all mic input by disablingthe capture channel's capture, but that turns off the mic input as well as the unwanted input
[04:24] <Alynna> hello.  I am having a problem with my kubuntu install I cant seem to figure out on my own.
[04:24] <Dasnipa`> Alynna, #kubuntu
[04:24] <Alynna> for a kernel issue?
[04:25] <preston> scrappy_: I've seen a few...i did a search on the forums once and found a thread that listed hundreds...gotta find that thread again
[04:25] <Tim``> FIXED IT
[04:25] <Tim``> :D
[04:25] <Dasnipa`> #kubuntu is for kubuntu questions kubuntu is KDE window manager, ubuntu is gnome
[04:25] <Alynna> the problem is that only the -386 kernels will boot on my machine.
[04:25] <Tim``> thanks to those who helped :)
[04:25] <Tim``> and now, bedtime
[04:25] <darthlukan> anybody here run 64 bit ubuntu?
[04:25] <Alynna> the -686 ones hang before even getting to 'Uncompressing Linux ...'
[04:26] <LeeJunFan> Alynna: what processor do you have?
[04:26] <Alynna> my CPU is a P4 2.8ghz HT
[04:26] <Alynna> I would like to use the hyperthreading, thus my interest in the -686 series
[04:27] <skibobdi> darthlukan: I'm currently about 75% installing it now
[04:27] <scrappy_> anyone here use traditional chinese char? im trying to learn but not sure what options are available for inputting them or any word processing software under linux..
[04:27] <orbin> Alynna: how are you installing the other kernels?
[04:27] <Alynna> aptitude.
[04:28] <orbin> Alynna: what package?
[04:28] <Alynna> linux-image-<version>-686
[04:28] <jrsims> hey, anyone here running zsnes for roms?
[04:29] <jrsims> anyone at all? For some reason, the bilinear filter decided to stop working.
[04:29] <KrisWood> Can anyone recommend a good svn server for ubuntu? or is there only one?
[04:30] <Alynna> i may be doing something dumb but I havent found it yet and I am usually pretty smart about these things..
[04:30] <Alynna> its not even getting to 'Uncompressing Linux'.. which suggests a failure in grub ..
[04:31] <zF> what is the default picture viewer - I deleted it -.-
[04:31] <darthlukan> Alynna: you may have an acpi problem
[04:31] <KrisWood> what are you getting, Alynna?
[04:31] <the_lord> Hi!
[04:31] <Alynna> 386 kernels boot.
[04:31] <darthlukan> Alynna: try acpi=no at the boot prompt
[04:31] <the_lord> how do I put nice images to the grub menu?
[04:31] <Alynna> 686 kernels hang before "Uncompressing Linux..."
[04:31] <LeeJunFan> Alynna: yeah, it does sound like grub if it's pre bzimage decompress.
[04:32] <seven11> Odd request, anyone know of an alarm clock program what uses the motherboard speaker?
[04:32] <zF> Erm, can someone tell me the default picture viewer program, I ran an apt-cache search but deleted it a whie ago
[04:32] <LeeJunFan> Alynna: I wonder if you installed lilo and used that if you'd have better luck - although I know other people have to be using the same processor maybe it's a bios thing.
[04:33] <orbin> Alynna: something to try: append "acpi=off noacpi" to the end of the grub kernel line
[04:33] <blind> Good news and bad news!
[04:33] <blind> Good news: I finally created a working xserver.conf file for dual-monitor diplay. Bad news: I forgot to detail my monitors, so I'm stuck on 640x480 resolution until I do so :P
[04:33] <incandenza> seven11: at 07:00 echo ^G^G^G^G
[04:33] <yoink> i'm having some issues with slow drawing of my screen under X. You can litteraly watch the screen refresh, but I can't seem to find much in the forms or on thd web. The video card is an older ATI Rage Pro AGP card, but for this 2D stuff it shouldn't be noticeably slow. Any ideas?
[04:33] <blind> xorg.conf, rather
[04:33] <kaatil> hmm.. seem installing some libs result in removing many program. bah.
[04:33] <Alynna> right now due to a problem with Windows XP, I have lilo bootstraping grub, because Windows XP overwrites grub's stage 2.
[04:33] <kaatil> wrong channel
[04:33] <shawnr_> yoink, how much ram
[04:33] <yoink> f589
[04:34] <zoidberg> guys i have a problem
[04:34] <yoink> oops shawnr_ 586MB
[04:34] <seven11> incandenza: what?
[04:34] <nomasteryoda> zoidberg, ask away
[04:34] <shawnr_> 586?
[04:34] <yoink> *typing while eating a fudgecicle)
[04:34] <yoink> shawnr_, yeah, 2x256 + 64
[04:34] <zoidberg> i was trying to install ubuntu dapper on an PII 350 MHZ 130 mb RAM 6.0 GB pc
[04:34] <shawnr_> ahh
[04:34] <nomasteryoda> typing while eating a peach =D
[04:34] <shawnr_> old ram im guessing
[04:34] <zoidberg> when i put in the cd i hit install/start ubuntu
[04:34] <Alynna> i'm going to force a reinstall of grub
[04:34] <LethalSword> hello everybody, I just installed ubuntu 6.06 and my screen resolution can't be changed
[04:34] <shawnr_> yoink, whats cpu?
[04:34] <darthlukan> mac and cheese here ;)
[04:34] <orbin> yoink: do you notice it at idle desktop?  or are you running an i3d app?  and what video driver are you running?
[04:35] <zoidberg> it stats i see the ubuntu logo witht eh litltle progress bar
[04:35] <yoink> PIII 733
[04:35] <LethalSword> does anybody know how to fix ?
[04:35] <wastrel> is it possible to get my palm pilot to sync with dapper?
[04:35] <blind> wastrel: yes
[04:35] <orbin> s/i3d/3d
[04:35] <Jack_Sparrow> yoink: Lose the 64.. it isnt helping you
[04:35] <Kyral_Laptop> wastrel: yes
[04:35] <LeeJunFan> Alynna: not sure I understand your windows issue [xp with grub works for me] , but I wonder if that could have something to do with it.
[04:35] <nomasteryoda> zoidberg, you will need the alternate install i'm guessing
[04:35] <davegoodson> Hi, ive got network-manager-gnome installed, and my laptop keeps connecting to another router that isnt secure, how do i set my router to the default connection??
[04:35] <zoidberg> then i get a whole bunch of errors and then i get this
[04:35] <shawnr_> Leathal, edit your xorg.conf
[04:35] <LethalSword> erm how
[04:35] <wastrel> Kyral_Laptop:  gpilotd keeps segfaulting on me.  even pilot-link segfaults
[04:35] <nomasteryoda> zoidberg, ya i've had issues on some of the older systems with limited ram
[04:35] <zoidberg> i'm show "bin/sh cannot access tty"
[04:35] <shawnr_> google "edit xorg.conf" maybe ?
[04:35] <zoidberg> and then i have a command line
[04:35] <zoidberg> ?
[04:35] <zoidberg> any help?
[04:35] <Kyral_Laptop> wastrel: ah nevermind
[04:36] <Kyral_Laptop> I was gonna say pilot-link :P
[04:36] <yoink> orbin,  2d screen redraws are very slow
[04:36] <davegoodson> Hi, ive got network-manager-gnome installed, and my laptop keeps connecting to another router that isnt secure, how do i set my router to the default connection??
[04:36] <George> any way of making the default boot process present its information in a more organised way when you're not using bootsplash?
[04:36] <zoidberg> nomasteryoda i tried running it in sfae mode but same problem
[04:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Alynna: Can we assume XP is the first partition on the first drive
[04:36] <darthlukan> zoidberg:try $sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and really pay attention to the comments and drivers
[04:36] <yoink> like if I have a full screen terminal open and am using "less" every new line takes a second to come up. And you can litterally watch the redraw down the screen.
[04:36] <zoidberg> okay then what darthlukan??
[04:36] <shawnr_> LethalSword, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:37] <yoink> my xorg.conf shows I'm using the "ati" driver
[04:37] <LethalSword> thx
[04:37] <darthlukan> zoidberg: you have a resolution issue right?
[04:37] <zoidberg> i dunno?
[04:37] <zoidberg> i dunno what the issue is
[04:37] <darthlukan> zoidberg: what is your screen doing?
[04:37] <davegoodson> Hi, ive got network-manager-gnome installed, and my laptop keeps connecting to another router that isnt secure, how do i set it to connect to my secure router by default?
[04:37] <wastrel> Kyral_Laptop:  it works for you on dapper?
[04:37] <yoink> and my screen is at 1280x1024, as it was post-install. 1024x768 doesn't change matter though, just less to redraw
[04:37] <zoidberg> i just get cannot access "sh/bin" and then a cmmomand line
[04:37] <darthlukan> zoidberg: and what card do you have installed
[04:37] <yoink> matter=matters
[04:37] <shawnr_> George, run with the "quiet" option
[04:37] <incandenza> seven11: that was my suggestion for an alarm clock program
[04:37] <yoink> amd so the 64 could be making things worse RAM-wise huh?
[04:37] <zoidberg> what do you mean?
[04:38] <zoidberg> video card?
[04:38] <Jack_Sparrow> yoink: have you tried vesa?
[04:38] <nomasteryoda> his installer dumpped before it was complete... zoidberg is that what happened?
[04:38] <bugnthecode> ok, I have a huge problem. I just finished the install and configuration of my ubuntu wanna-be server, and I edited the hosts file and removed the other entries after localhost.
[04:38] <bll3r> hello everyone i have a quick question
[04:38] <bugnthecode> now I can't root!
[04:38] <Alynna> XP is hda1, Linux is hdb2 and hdb3.  The system boots from hdb, going from lilo in the mbr of hdb to the boot sector of hdb2.
[04:38] <zoidberg> i'm not sure whatever the dafult onboard video card is for PII dells optiplex
[04:38] <Jack_Sparrow> yoink: Yes that 64 is NOT helping anything
[04:38] <bll3r> I was wondering how you change the maintenece levels
[04:38] <George> shawnr_: ok
[04:38] <yoink> Jack_Sparrow, no. I'll give it a shot (both Vesa and yanking the 64)
[04:38] <bugnthecode> it gives me an error saying "can not gethostbyname()"
[04:38] <seven11> incandenza: but echo ^G^G^G^G just echos ^G^G^G^G
[04:38] <George> shawnr_: I'm running a custom kernel btw
[04:38] <darthlukan> zoidberg: what kind of video card are you using and when you boot do you get a black screen with a console or do you get a minimal gui, does your gui have weird pics
[04:38] <LethalSword> shawnr_: where exactly in this file is the resolution?
[04:38] <yoink> brb.
[04:38] <Jack_Sparrow> yoink: do you know how to F6 at grub to set vesa
[04:38] <zoidberg> i dont get an gui
[04:39] <incandenza> seven11: type is as ^V^G so it does it literally
[04:39] <shawnr_> LethalSword, did you look?
[04:39] <zoidberg> i get a ms-dos like command line
[04:39] <yoink> Jack_Sparrow, I'll read up on it now
[04:39] <bll3r> does anyone know how to change the levels in comnad line?
[04:39] <shawnr_> LethalSword, keep looking
[04:39] <LethalSword> i see nothing
[04:39] <LethalSword> seriously
[04:39] <Jack_Sparrow> yoink:  Grub Boot Options to try (F6)  ide=nodma vga=normal nomce acpi=off pnpbios=off xdrvr=vesa xres=800x600 apm=off quiet
[04:39] <incandenza> seven11: also, you actually have to do it >/dev/console (and set the permissions so you can write to it)...  otherwise it will mail you the output
[04:39] <darthlukan> zoidberg: ok, so all you have is console
[04:39] <LethalSword> except for notes
[04:39] <zoidberg> yup
[04:39] <yoink> Jack_Sparrow, it's only slow under X though
[04:39] <shawnr_> keep going
[04:39] <yoink> not in Runlevel 3
[04:39] <Jack_Sparrow> it is ok under the gui?
[04:39] <wastrel> blind: it's working for you on dapper?  everything segfaults on me.
[04:40] <darthlukan> zoidberg: are you booted into console right now on your computer? or are you dualbooting using windows to chat right now?
[04:40] <bll3r> damn no body knows??
[04:40] <shawnr_> LethalSword, if you didn't have anything in your xorg file, x wouldn't start. and you wouldn
[04:40] <zoidberg> no booted into console
[04:40] <yoink> no Gnome is slow to redraw while console is fast
[04:40] <blind> wastrel: I forgot the question.
[04:40] <zoidberg> no os on it right now
[04:40] <seven11> incandenza care too pm me a step by step? =D
[04:40] <shawnr_> be in here now
[04:40] <davegoodson> Hi, ive got network-manager-gnome installed, and my laptop keeps connecting to another router that isnt secure, how do i set it to connect to my secure router by default?
[04:40] <wastrel> blind:  sync palm with dapper
[04:40] <darthlukan> zoidberg: but you are able to chat right now?
[04:40] <zoidberg> i'm on another computer right now talking to u guys
[04:40] <blind> oh, I don't have a palm.
[04:40] <zoidberg> yes i am
[04:40] <zoidberg> the computer is in the next room
[04:40] <blind> I _had_ a pocket pc, and that worked just fine.
[04:40] <darthlukan> zoidberg: ok, perfect
[04:40] <wastrel> pilot sync is badly broken in dapper
[04:40] <KrisWood> ok, I found the answer to my own question, ubuntu comes with a svn server apparently, but there's no man page for it. Does anyone know how I start using an svn server on my ubuntu box?
[04:40] <darthlukan> zoidberg: login to console
[04:40] <yoink> sorry if I wasn't clear on that
[04:40] <LeeJunFan> bugnthecode: reboot, use e to edit when grub starts, add init=/bin/sh to the kernel options and boot. You will have root privileges then and can repair your hosts file.
[04:41] <zoidberg> i'm in the console right now
[04:41] <LethalSword> shawnr_: i found it but where do i edit the resolution?
[04:41] <zoidberg> the "bin/sh not avaiable" message is there
[04:41] <kedarguru> hey can someone help me out?
[04:41] <Jack_Sparrow> yoink:  Ok, pull the extra ram, though that isnt the issue here, so you can pull it later, try vesa
[04:41] <zoidberg> and i have a command line
[04:41] <zoidberg> what now
[04:41] <zoidberg> ?
[04:41] <darthlukan> then type this command: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:41] <DanaG> !udev
[04:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about udev - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:41] <shawnr_> LethalSword, just change it to what you want
[04:41] <kedarguru> I'm having a hard time trying to figure out how to get a scanner to work
[04:41] <zoidberg> okay anything in specific you want me to look at
[04:41] <zoidberg> ?
[04:41] <LethalSword> yes shawnr_ but where ?
[04:41] <bll3r> dave iwconfig ra0 essid "ESSID"
[04:41] <LeeJunFan> bugnthecode: you will need to cat /etc/hostname and make sure there's a 127.0.0.1 <your hostname> line in /etc/hosts, then reboot again normally.
[04:41] <davegoodson> !network
[04:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about network - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:41] <George> shawnr_: is the quiet option ubuntu-kernel-specific?
[04:41] <Jack_Sparrow> kedarguru: have you tried xsane
[04:41] <davegoodson> !network-manager-gnome
[04:42] <ubotu> I know nothing about network-manager-gnome - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:42] <shawnr_> George no
[04:42] <shawnr_> LethalSword, you said you found the resolutions. so edit them to say what you want
[04:42] <darthlukan> zoidberg: scroll down with your arrow key until you see something in the device section that mentions your video card
[04:42] <zoidberg> datklukan i will be back in a sec i will go ahead an type that in
[04:42] <George> shawnr_: ok
[04:42] <davegoodson> Hi, ive got network-manager-gnome installed, and my laptop keeps connecting to another router that isnt secure, how do i set it to connect to my secure router by default?
[04:42] <kedarguru> when I call xsane it doesn't find my scanner
[04:42] <darthlukan> zoidberg: ok
[04:42] <Jack_Sparrow> kedarguru: k.. what scanner?
[04:42] <kedarguru> and sane-find-scanner, for some reason, doesn't work?
[04:43] <drewfus> how do i open ports for azureus?
[04:43] <kedarguru> I've got an epson stylus cx3800
[04:43] <shawnr_> LethalSword, slow down. don't your letting the xorg intimidate you
[04:43] <shawnr_> LethalSword, what is your current resolution
[04:43] <LethalSword> 640x480
[04:43] <Jack_Sparrow> kedarguru: Did you look it up in supported hardware?
[04:43] <shawnr_> LethalSword, what graphics card do you have
[04:43] <kedarguru> yes
[04:43] <kedarguru> it is supported
[04:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardware > kedarguru
[04:44] <kedarguru> but I have no idea what to do
[04:44] <LethalSword> shawnr_: ati radeon xpress 200 series
[04:44] <kedarguru> how to set it up, etc
[04:44] <LethalSword> it knows the card
[04:44] <shawnr_> LethalSword, did you install the proper video drivers?
[04:44] <kedarguru> I think I need to configure the backend?
[04:44] <kedarguru> but I don't know how to do that
[04:44] <Jack_Sparrow> kedarguru: Was it plugged in when you booted?  when you installed?
[04:44] <shawnr_> LethalSword, did you install the ati drivers?
[04:44] <LethalSword> it came with them
[04:44] <KrisWood> does anyone here know anything about installing a subversion server?
[04:44] <kedarguru> when I installed sane?
[04:45] <Jack_Sparrow> no the scanner
[04:45] <shawnr_> LethalSword, no it didn't
[04:45] <zoidberg> i'm back
[04:45] <shawnr_> LethalSword, it comes with generic ati drivers
[04:45] <kedarguru> the scanner was plugged in yeah
[04:45] <darthlukan> zoidberg: ok
[04:45] <LethalSword>  Device          "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon Xpress 200 (RS480)"
[04:45] <LethalSword> ?
[04:45] <LethalSword> see?
[04:45] <zoidberg> it says "bin/sh nano cannot be found"
[04:45] <shawnr_> LethalSword, so what.
[04:45] <Jack_Sparrow> I need to leave and work on a different box (for $)....  good luck, someone will be able to help
[04:46] <LethalSword> doesn't that mean the driver is installed?
[04:46] <darthlukan> zoidberg: wow
[04:46] <shawnr_> LethalSword, just cause it can connect to your card doesn't mean you have the proper drivers
[04:46] <zoidberg> i know
[04:46] <kedarguru> haha alright
[04:46] <kedarguru> thanks though
[04:46] <LethalSword> ok
[04:46] <h8red> can someone tell me how to save the fstab after inputing the device i want to mount each boot?
[04:46] <zoidberg> no other editing app either
[04:46] <LethalSword> where can i get the drivers then?
[04:46] <darthlukan> zoidberg: try this: bash --login
[04:46] <shawnr_> LethalSword, http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28ATI.29
[04:46] <kedarguru> alright can someone help me to work a scanner then?
[04:46] <LethalSword> ok thanks
[04:46] <incandenza> h8red: what editor are you using?
[04:46] <zoidberg> okay
[04:47] <h8red> incandenza: i was using the terminal vi /etc/fstab
[04:47] <wastrel> has anyone got usb palm sync working in dapper?
[04:47] <h8red> then input o for new line
[04:47] <zoidberg> sayss cannot be foubd too
[04:47] <incandenza> h8red: put sudo before that so it will let you write it
[04:47] <darthlukan> zoidberg: interesting
[04:47] <kedarguru> can someone help me to work a scanner?
[04:47] <zoidberg> lissen i gotta go eat
[04:47] <darthlukan> zoidberg: you using a fresh install of dapper
[04:47] <zoidberg> i'll bea back in 20 minutes
[04:47] <blind> YES! I have my dual-monitor layout working perfectly!! :] 
[04:48] <kedarguru> please?
[04:48] <darthlukan> zoidberg: ok, email me
[04:48] <blind> Err.. one problem. Anyone have a dual-monitor display?
[04:48] <h8red> incandenza: so - sudo vi /etc/fstab, then o, then how do i save, just exit terminal?
[04:48] <Dasnipa`> wastrel, ive heard of this for certain brand devices but not all
[04:48] <kedarguru> can someone help me to work a scanner?
[04:48] <wastrel> Dasnipa`:  what do you mean?  certain devices work, but others don't?
[04:48] <incandenza> h8red: o, type line, press ESC, ':wq' to save
[04:49] <Dasnipa`> wastrel, certain devices play nicer with the protocol than others... others can be rather proprietary... like DELLs
[04:49] <tamale> the boys over in #apache tell me my problem is most likely ubuntu specific...  can anyone try and help?  I'm getting "The connection was reset"  and my error logs only say that "[Tue Aug 08 19:45:07 2006]  [notice]  caught SIGTERM, shutting down"
[04:49] <wastrel> Dasnipa`:  i'm talking palm os, not pocketpc
[04:50] <Dasnipa`> wastrel, i think palmos has more luck... but id try googling it a bit... also many that have palmos are able to be reformatted and linux run on it ;)
[04:51] <wastrel> Dasnipa`:  i just want it to sync - worked in breezy, broken in dapper
[04:51] <justin420> hi all. anybody help with deleting a linux-swap partition with gparted? It has a little picture of a lock next too it; it wont let me delete it.
[04:51] <darthlukan> has anyone experienced any issues with a source recompile of most recent kernels for amd64 on dapper?
[04:51] <LethalSword> is that !tell bot thingy still here?
[04:51] <jbroome> LethalSword: yeah
[04:51] <jbroome> !bot > LethalSword
[04:51] <Dasnipa`> wastrel, oh many bug report for that then
[04:51] <Dasnipa`> maybe*
[04:51] <LethalSword> !tell LethalSword about java
[04:51] <devz0r> my network is connected through a router
[04:52] <h8red> incandenza: thank you, that worked, but when using fstab without sudo, how do I exit to go back to terminal?
[04:52] <Thor2> I have two ubuntu instalations, same hard disk, different partitions. How do I access the other instalations files ?
[04:52] <LethalSword> i wish i didn't have such slow internet
[04:52] <LethalSword> downloading stuff is too slow as crap
[04:52] <devz0r> i'm trying to enable a printer on my computer that is connected to another computer with samba
[04:52] <odla> here's a real easy question...how do i create a shortcut to /home/odla on my desktop?  so that i can drag and drop files into it
[04:52] <devz0r> and i get Unable to get printer status (client-error-forbidden)!
[04:52] <tamale> LethalSword:  I feel 'ya.. I'm gettin less than 1kb/s and ping times in excess of 1.5 seconds... this is ludicrous
[04:52] <incandenza> h8red: ESC then :q
[04:52] <shawnr_> tamale, just to let you know. i searched "[notice]  caught SIGTERM, shutting down" on google and got over 20,000 results
[04:53] <orbin> Thor2: mount the other install's partitions
[04:53] <incandenza> h8red: or :q! to force it to lose the changes
[04:53] <darthlukan> odla: right click and create new folder on your desktop
[04:53] <blind> Okay, so I got my dual-monitor layout working, but how do I move a window from one screen to another?
[04:53] <h8red> incandenza: thank you
[04:53] <tamale> shawnr_:  Evidently it's a very common generic error message.. it doesn't help narrow down what's happening at all.
[04:53] <devz0r> my network is connected through a router
[04:53] <devz0r> i'm trying to enable a printer on my computer that is connected to another computer with samba
[04:53] <devz0r> and i get Unable to get printer status (client-error-forbidden)!
[04:53] <incandenza> h8red: np
[04:54] <darthlukan> has anyone experienced any issues with a source recompile of most recent kernels for amd64 on dapper?
[04:54] <blueswirl> hello all, does anyone know how to find out what keymap is being used?
[04:54] <Thor2> how do I mount the other partition
[04:54] <Thor2> ?
[04:55] <darthlukan> i would like to know before i spend however long  upgrading my kernel from tar.gz
[04:55] <unstablesob> if i added a 3rd party repository, and installed some packages that upgraded ubuntu packages, is there an 'easy' way to downgrade back to the ubuntu supplied packages?
[04:55] <orbin> Thor2: sys > admin > disks ... or direct commandsfstab
[04:55] <blueswirl> right, connection problems sorted :P
[04:56] <Dasnipa`> unstablesob, you would apt-get remove <package> probably
[04:56] <LethalSword> wow 10 minutes of updating drivers :( at my dads it would take 10 seconds :(
[04:56] <unstablesob> is there a way to get a list of installed debs w/their corresponding repository source?
[04:56] <Thor2> its /dev/hdb1, I tried enable but nothing happened
[04:57] <blueswirl> i'll ask again, just in case: how'd you find out what keymap is being used?
[04:57] <LethalSword> !tell LethalSword about limewire
[04:57] <orbin> unstablesob: synaptic's nt too shabby
[04:57] <orbin> s/nt/not
[04:57] <AngryElf_> Thor2, man mount
[04:57] <Thor2> Status: inacessible
[04:57] <unstablesob> looking for something grep'able
[04:57] <azureal> hey all... configuring my xterm =)
[04:58] <azureal> wondering what xterm*loginShell refers to?
[04:58] <Lilandra> Hello
[04:58] <baxter_kylie> Have a good night all.
[04:59] <LethalSword> !tell LethalSword about amsn
[04:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about amsn - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:59] <LethalSword> >_>
[05:00] <Lilandra> Um, may I ask for help here?
[05:00] <Thor2> managed. thanks
[05:00] <blueswirl> Lilandra, yes
[05:00] <Thor2> I had to first create a directory in /mnt
[05:00] <Thor2> then mount worked
[05:00] <Thor2> :)
[05:00] <Lilandra> cool :)
[05:00] <Thor2> Thanks, bye!
[05:00] <bimberi> Lilandra: sure, ask away :)
[05:00] <Lilandra> Does anybody use bluetooth on their linux systems?
[05:01] <kaatil> yo
[05:02] <odla> that didn't quite work...i've dragged the home folder from the system menu except i can't drop files into it
[05:02] <odla> i mean the places menu
[05:02] <blueswirl> i'll once more before i go, as i can feel half life 2 calling me... does anyone know how to find out which keymap is being used?
[05:02] <bimberi> Lilandra: if you're having problems with bluetooth, try describing them.  There is some online help too...
[05:02] <bimberi> !bluetooth
[05:02] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[05:03] <Lilandra> yes, i'm looking at the setup. i came here to ask questions if i got trouble...so..
[05:03] <Lilandra> and say hello too
[05:03] <Lilandra> :)
[05:03] <bimberi> Lilandra: kk :)
[05:03] <Lilandra> in setup devices: sudo hidd --search should produce output?
[05:04] <kaatil> is there a program that you can set up for the second monitor?
[05:04] <kaatil> *think hard*
[05:05] <blueswirl> ah well, i'll try again later, night all
[05:05] <Lilandra> i just get Searching...
[05:05] <Lilandra> and then it finishes, should there be other output?
[05:06] <bimberi> Lilandra: i would say so :|
[05:06] <Lilandra> hm
[05:06] <Giskard> guys why when i make a fat32 partition with mkdosfs i cant use it, i dont have all the permissions :S
[05:07] <Lilandra> im not getting anything
[05:08] <LethalSword> shawnr_: i did what that site said how do i change my resolution now?
[05:08] <shawnr_> Lethal,, did you restart x?
[05:08] <LethalSword> LOL!
[05:08] <LethalSword> i forgot
[05:08] <LethalSword> sry
[05:08] <shawnr_> i'll be here
[05:08] <shawnr_> lol
[05:08] <LethalSword> brb then i guess
[05:09] <_Devil> hi.. i need help mounting my stubborn camera
[05:09] <skibobdi> hi i just did a fresh install of Ubuntu 6.06 64bit, I get a complete crash immediately after the ubuntu login screen!, ive checked the xorg log files, which other log files should checked for this kind of error?
[05:09] <tate_> Hey, I am having a serious problem with Dapper Drake, I can't run any of the admin tools vcause it "can't copy my .Xauthority file"?
[05:09] <odla> _Devil: it's not automounting?
[05:09] <odla> _Devil: does it show up in dmesg?
[05:09] <scrappy_> tate_: sudo chown -R username  ~/
[05:10] <_Devil> it doesnt
[05:10] <owen_> im having some serious problems, my file browser does not show one of my partitions, if i edit my fstab it does not show the partition i add... its acting really strange, and yes i enter the entry in the right format...
[05:10] <odla> _Devil: it doesn't on both?
[05:10] <scrappy_> tate_: or just rm ~/.Xauthority
[05:10] <_Devil> yes
[05:10] <odla> _Devil: hrm...that's not good
[05:10] <_Devil> shows up in lsusb
[05:10] <odla> _Devil: what's the device?  /dev/sda1 or /dev/sda2 perhaps?
[05:10] <_Devil> neither worked when trying to mount
[05:11] <odla> _Devil: try pmount /dev/sda1 /media/camera
[05:11] <owen_> what does pmount do/
[05:11] <owen_> ?
[05:11] <odla> similar to mount
[05:11] <odla> man pmount for more details
[05:11] <LethalSword> wow thanks shawnr_ :)
[05:12] <shawnr_> yup
[05:12] <LethalSword> !tell LethalSword about tar
[05:12] <secretpickle> hello
[05:12] <_Devil> odla, k-a-s@elora:~$ sudo pmount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /home/k-a-s/Desktop
[05:12] <_Devil> Error: '/' must not occur in label name
[05:12] <_Devil> :o
[05:12] <owen_> Error: '/' must not occur in label name
[05:12] <odla> _Devil: try pmount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/camera
[05:13] <incandenza> _Devil: replace pmount with mount if you're doing it that way
[05:13] <_Devil> k-a-s@elora:~$ sudo pmount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/camera
[05:13] <_Devil> Error: device /dev/sda1 does not exist
[05:13] <secretpickle> I have a huge windows NTFS partition and my ubuntu partition is really small because I thought I wouldn't use it. It turns out I use ubuntu and I barely touch windows, although I need it for video editing about twice a week. Anyways, does anyone know how I can change the partition sizes w/out deleting or reformatting my data?
[05:13] <LethalSword> I am noticing webpages are not loading as fast as they should be
[05:13] <LethalSword> is there anyway to fix it?
[05:13] <odla> _Devil: then it's not /dev/sda1 :)
[05:13] <incandenza> secretpickle: get the gparted livecd
[05:13] <secretpickle> LethalSword: are you uploading a lot of data?
[05:14] <LethalSword> secretpickle: no I'm not
[05:14] <secretpickle> incandenza: mk, and then just boot w/the live CD and then use gparted?
[05:14] <LethalSword> i just installed ubuntu less then an hour ago
[05:14] <zoidberg> hey darthlukan i'm back are u still there?
[05:14] <secretpickle> LethalSword: hrmmm...idk then
[05:14] <LethalSword> ok
[05:14] <LethalSword> lol
[05:14] <incandenza> secretpickle: yeah, you can shrink the NTFS partition that way
[05:14] <LethalSword> !amsn
[05:14] <BeepAU> can someone please help me? i can't seem to install java properly.
[05:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about amsn - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:14] <zoidberg> okay guys i have a problem
[05:14] <_Devil> it didnt work on sda2 either - any other suggestions?
[05:14] <secretpickle> incandenza: can I make the ext2 partition bigger?
[05:14] <LethalSword> !tell BeepAU about java
[05:15] <LethalSword> :)
[05:15] <incandenza> secretpickle: only problem is, you can't grow the linux partition "backwards"...  so you'd have to copy it back further on the disk, then grow it
[05:15] <secretpickle> incandenza: Well... I think ext2, I forget and I don't know how to check
[05:15] <zoidberg> i have a PII 350 MHZ 130 RAM and i'm trying to install Dapper on it
[05:15] <tamale> how do i do multiple ip interfaces in ubuntu?  is it still  eth1, eth1:1, eth1:2 like in debian?
[05:15] <secretpickle> incandenza: I guess I could just create a big partition
[05:15] <zoidberg> i have a installation CD that i know works coz i got it to work on a friends computer
[05:15] <incandenza> secretpickle: yeah, you could just make a new one in the empty space
[05:15] <zoidberg> the trouble is right when i the gui part is supposed to start i guess
[05:15] <secretpickle> incandenza: actually I want a partition that both linux and windows can read/write
[05:15] <secretpickle> incandenza: would NTFS work?
[05:15] <incandenza> secretpickle: should probably use FAT32 then
[05:16] <BeepAU> LethalSword -- i've supposedly already got java installed. i've read that. however, when I try to run frostwire, it tells me it isn't.
[05:16] <nalioth> secretpickle: use fat32
[05:16] <zoidberg> i get an error saying "bin/sh now available" and then i get a command line
[05:16] <incandenza> secretpickle: NTFS writing isn't "fully" supported...
[05:16] <zoidberg> any help?
[05:16] <secretpickle> incandenza: what's the limit for partition size though?
[05:16] <Lilandra> im going to sleep...'night all
[05:16] <niall> can sum1 help me, im trying to install an online poker game
[05:16] <nalioth> secretpickle: 137gb
[05:16] <scrappy_> LethalSword: what does 'cat /etc/resolv.conf' say? maybe one of your dns servers
[05:16] <secretpickle> nalioth: I guess that'll have to do then, no other choices?
[05:16] <mmassonnet> NTFS is fully supported with NTFS-3G driver.
[05:16] <LethalSword> scrappy_: how do i read that?
[05:16] <zoidberg> any help guys?
[05:16] <nalioth> secretpickle: there are ext2/3 drivers for windows but i don't recommend them
[05:17] <scrappy_> LethalSword: you can just cat it or gksudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf
[05:17] <incandenza> mmassonnet: yes, I know...  just everyone around here seems to think it's ill-advised or something
[05:17] <Psy-X> Hello
[05:17] <BeepAU> so, could anyone help me get java working for frostwire?
[05:17] <micahcowan> zoidberg, it doesn't sound like the installation went well on your system...
[05:17] <Gun_Smoke> I do i know what version on Ubuntu I am running?  ie badger, dapper, etc
[05:17] <zoidberg> well the thing is
[05:17] <zoidberg> i havent INSTALLED IT YET
[05:17] <nalioth> BeepAU: did you not get a private message from ubotu?
[05:17] <secretpickle> nalioth: how can I get statistics in ubuntu about my ext2 partition
[05:17] <Gun_Smoke> *how
[05:17] <zoidberg> i mean right when i put in the cd
[05:17] <micahcowan> I take it the real message was "/bin/sh is not available" ?
[05:17] <Psy-X> I'll find out
[05:17] <secretpickle> nalioth: like how much space  is left, etc
[05:17] <zoidberg> i hit install
[05:18] <LethalSword> scappy_: there are name servers there
[05:18] <tamale> does anyone know how to set up virtual hosts?  it looks like one of my extra ips is working but none of the others are
[05:18] <zoidberg> i even tried it in safe graphics mode
[05:18] <BeepAU> nalioth -- yes. i've already read that page.
[05:18] <zoidberg> and then i see the ubuntu logo witht he progress bar loading some stuff
[05:18] <nalioth> secretpickle: df or du or xdiskusage or discus
[05:18] <shawnr_> BeepAU, http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_install_J2SE_Runtime_Environment_.28JRE.29_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[05:18] <secretpickle> nalioth: k
[05:18] <scrappy_> LethalSword: i was thinking the first server or two wasnt working and that was causing it to be slow
[05:18] <Phoul> Hello
[05:18] <zoidberg> and then i get all these error messages concluding with "bin/sh not available tty" and then a command line
[05:18] <micahcowan> zoidberg, cdrom read error, perhaps, then. Have you restarted and had this problem multiple times?
[05:18] <Phoul> How would i go about grepping a directory of logs for a certin word
[05:18] <LethalSword> search private
[05:18] <LethalSword> nameserver 192.168.1.1
[05:18] <LethalSword> nameserver 24.153.22.67
[05:18] <LethalSword> nameserver 24.153.22.195
[05:18] <Phoul> I seem to recall grep -r but thats not right
[05:19] <secretpickle> nalioth: it seems like when I delete stuff, I'm still using 100% of my hard drive space
[05:19] <micahcowan> zoidberg, are you able to actually type commands at the commandline?
[05:19] <LethalSword> scapp_: thats all it says :)
[05:19] <zoidberg> yes
[05:19] <scrappy_> LethalSword: maybe do dig google.com
[05:19] <owen_> im having problems with my partitions, one of them is not being detected, all of them are all ext3 - when i make an entry is fstab the partition i enter dissapears, if i mount anyhting, when i restart the mount is unmounted...
[05:19] <nalioth> secretpickle: idk what to tell ya, maybe ya got a lotta stuff?
[05:19] <zoidberg> its like an msdos command line
[05:19] <BeepAU> shawnr_ -- will this make it work for frostwire?
[05:19] <zoidberg> GUI hasnt started
[05:19] <niall> can sum1 help me?
[05:19] <secretpickle> nalioth: is there like a recycle bin that has to be emptied or something?
[05:19] <scrappy_> LethalSword: what server does it say you router or one of the others
[05:19] <shawnr_> BeepAU, yes
[05:19] <shawnr_> BeepAU, i use that how to all the time. never have frostwire problems
[05:20] <nalioth> secretpickle: you can look in ~/.Trash
[05:20] <LethalSword> top one is router scrappy_
[05:20] <BeepAU> shawnr_ -- ok, i'll try it out. thankyou.
[05:20] <nalioth> secretpickle: do you use kde things?
[05:20] <secretpickle> nalioth: like ktorrent?
[05:20] <zoidberg> micahcowan are u there...any help?
[05:20] <nalioth> secretpickle: in ~/.local/share/ is a kde trash bin
[05:20] <secretpickle> nalioth: yea my trash directory is full of all the stuff I thought I deleted...lol
[05:21] <scrappy_> LethalSword: the command 'dig something.com' should respond with dns info and tell you which server it used.  if your router is the server maybe remove the other entries from resolv.conf file.. or vice versa
[05:21] <tate_> okay look, I deleted .Xauthority and now I can't even log in
[05:21] <micahcowan> zoidberg, one way or another, it sounds like a cdrom read error.
[05:21] <secretpickle> nalioth: cool, my pr0n... I didn't think I deleted that... :-P
[05:21] <micahcowan> try cleaning it, maybe?
[05:21] <zoidberg> its not though
[05:21] <tate_> xbreaks down when I attempt to log in and leaves it hanging
[05:21] <niall> ????
[05:21] <zoidberg> i've tried several ubuntu cds
[05:21] <zoidberg> that I know work coz i've installed it on other computers
[05:21] <LethalSword> ;; SERVER: 24.153.22.67#53(24.153.22.67)
[05:21] <micahcowan> hm. And they all do the same thing?
[05:21] <tamale> aha!  they're simply not being loaded automatically.. what brings up interfaces on bootup in ubuntu?
[05:21] <LethalSword> you mean that?
[05:22] <zoidberg> i was thinking that it was video card problem
[05:22] <zoidberg> yup
[05:22] <tate_> no .Xauthorty means no X
[05:22] <BeepAU> shawnr_ -- it's working now. thanks again.
[05:22] <shawnr_> BeepAU, np
[05:22] <zoidberg> isnt there a way to make sure VESA the generci video card thing loads from teh cd
[05:22] <secretpickle> nalioth: okay I just got rid of like half my hard drives contents
[05:22] <zoidberg> ?
[05:22] <scrappy_> LethalSword: yeah id remove everything but that from resolv.conf and see if web pages are faster
[05:22] <oxez> Is there something I can do to make samba "re-parse" my network? It was working fine until I restarted it, now it doesn't see any workgroup...
[05:22] <secretpickle> nalioth: I thought when u deleted it in the GUI it was just instantly deleted
[05:22] <scrappy_> LethalSword: or just add a # in front to comment them out
[05:23] <nalpha> guys how to get list of computer that conected to my server????
[05:23] <nalioth> no, it just goes to the trash.  you can go into your nautilus prefs and enable a "delete" function to your context menus
[05:23] <secretpickle> nalioth: thank you
[05:23] <shawnr_> LethalSword, comment them out or backup the file
[05:23] <nalioth> secretpickle: no, it just goes to the trash.  you can go into your nautilus prefs and enable a "delete" function to your context menus
[05:23] <micahcowan> zoidberg, dunno: sounds a bit over my head.
[05:23] <zoidberg> hmmm
[05:23] <zoidberg> well thanx anyways
[05:24] <LethalSword> should i remove search private as well?
[05:24] <Gun_Smoke> I'm trying to figure out what version of Ubuntu I have installed. I can't remember the terminal command.  Can someone help please?
[05:24] <nalioth> Gun_Smoke: cat /etc/issue
[05:25] <Gun_Smoke> nalioth:  Thanks
[05:25] <scrappy_> LethalSword: im not sure what that is i dont have it in my file
[05:25] <LethalSword> ok
[05:25] <LethalSword> removed
[05:25] <LethalSword> much faster!
[05:25] <LethalSword> thanks
[05:25] <scrappy_> LethalSword: np
[05:25] <LethalSword> :)
[05:25] <tate_> I have never had trouble like this with another distro, what a disaster
[05:25] <secretpickle> nalioth: thank you
[05:26] <scrappy_> tate_: are you using breezy?
[05:26] <LethalSword> yay i successfully installed amsn by myself with no help
[05:26] <dasos> i just installed xchat, i'm looking to see if there is a way to change the irc username to something different than my system login name
[05:27] <kaatil> *pat lethal* you have advanced to next circle of level. congratulation. :D
[05:27] <scrappy_> tate_: sometimes using the sudo command for apps in x messed up my .Xauthorty file under breezy
[05:27] <kaatil> heh
[05:27] <nalioth> dasos: preferences hold a lot of goodies
[05:27] <kaatil> bbl
[05:27] <orbin> dasos: xchat > server list  iirc
[05:27] <babo> is it standard to get a one year renewal on your domain name when you change registrars ? My registrar used to do this, but they don't seem to mention it on their site. Is it standard do you think ?
[05:29] <LethalSword> is there an antivirus and/or antispyware anybody would recommend?
[05:29] <verbose> for windows?
[05:30] <dasos> nalioth, orbin: all i see is a place to change nickname and realname, neither of which seems to effect the username that shows up when you /whois
[05:30] <LethalSword> no
[05:30] <LethalSword> linux
[05:30] <verbose> i've used clamav on linux
[05:30] <firehazard17> clamav
[05:30] <verbose> i'm not sure if it does spyware though
[05:30] <verbose> most new av's do though
[05:30] <verbose> kaspersky is also good
[05:30] <nalioth> dasos: it's in there somewhere (i don't use xchat to be able to tell you exactly where)
[05:31] <dasos> nalioth: ok, i appreciate the help, i'll try and dig a bit deeper
[05:31] <Sivik> has anyone here had any success with getting the bcm43xx to work in dapper?
[05:32] <orbin> dasos: xchat > server list > username field maybe
[05:32] <James_M> my machine locked up in WINE and now I can't boot
[05:32] <dasos> orbin, i'm not seeing an xchat menu, but i found a bit more info
[05:33] <dasos> i'm using xchat-gnome, i presume it has some settings hidden somewhere else
[05:33] <orbin> dasos: you using xchat or xchat-gnome?
[05:33] <knapper> Whats the best program for editing Id3 tags?
[05:33] <orbin> dasos: ah.
[05:33] <dasos> yep, new to me too
[05:33] <LethalSword> with ubuntu 6.06 can u just click install to install tar.gz or do u need to type the terminal commands?
[05:33] <orbin> dasos: i prefer normal xchat...it should be in there though
[05:33] <orbin> knapper: easytag works fine for me
[05:34] <Frankenstein> LethalSword, you cant install a gzipped file... type tar xvzf file.tar.gz
[05:34] <knapper> ill give it a shot, thanks orbin
[05:34] <dasos> orbin: i'll mess with the installer to see if i can find plain xchat, thanks for the help =)
[05:34] <bernielomax> how do I install the kernel config?
[05:34] <orbin> dasos, knapper:   yw
[05:34] <Sivik> LethalSword, try tar xvfz filename.tar.gz
[05:35] <orbin> knapper: if you want something simpler, try cowbell or tagtool
[05:36] <orbin> LethalSword: tar.gz files are gzipped archives ... they usually have install instructions inside them
[05:36] <orbin> LethalSword: what are you installing anyway?
[05:36] <LethalSword> ClamAv
[05:36] <Sivik> orbin: i already told him about the tar xvfz feagure
[05:36] <LethalSword> but when its finished downloading
[05:36] <Sivik> LethalSword, try tar xvfz filename.tar.gz in the console
[05:37] <orbin> LethalSword: canything wrong w/ the clamav in the repos?
[05:37] <Sivik> LethalSword, apt-cache search clamav
[05:37] <LethalSword> iits downloading lol
[05:37] <LethalSword> just on slow internet slow it takes 10 minutes
[05:37] <Sivik> oh well
[05:37] <orbin> LethalSword: dialup?
[05:38] <LethalSword> ultra lite :(
[05:38] <scrappy_> LethalSword: youll have to get a wireless card. thats what neighbors are for
[05:38] <LethalSword> heh
[05:38] <LethalSword> thats illegal though
[05:38] <orbin> Sivik: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29
[05:38] <Sivik> LethalSword, not if they don't have the connection key locked
[05:39] <Sivik> orbin: already tried all of that
[05:39] <orbin> oh
[05:39] <Sivik> orbin: not getting anything when i do a iwlist scan
[05:39] <LethalSword> lol
[05:39] <scrappy_> LethalSword: nah as long as you dont login to their router because you need to forward a port so something.. :)
[05:39] <Sivik> orbin: and i'm within 3 feet of the ap
[05:39] <DanaG> aaah, I just discovered that the current evdev does NOT require a device path.
[05:39] <DanaG> Sweet.
[05:39] <DanaG> That means I don't have to muck around with creating a udev rule for my mouse.
[05:40] <nubious> hey newbie question - when I use mount to mount a ntfs filesystem on another partition, it doesn't show up as accessible - why is that?
[05:40] <Sivik> orbin: do you have a broadcom?
[05:40] <scrappy_> nubious: you can mount -o umask=000 /dev/something /media/something
[05:40] <orbin> Sivik: yes, but i don't use it :P ... i just searched the wiki for you
[05:41] <Sivik> orbin: lol
[05:41] <Sivik> orbin: it works for a while and then it stops
[05:41] <farous> orbin: ndiswrapper is your best bet
[05:41] <Sivik> farous, i never can get the ndiswrapper stuff to work either
[05:41] <orbin> farous: don't tell me, tell Sivik  :)
[05:41] <nubious> wow that worked scrappy thanks :)
[05:41] <nubious> now how do I auto mount when I load ubuntu?
[05:42] <farous> Sivik: you have to blacklist the bcm43xx module for it to work
[05:42] <orbin> !ntfs > nubious
[05:42] <Sivik> farous, how in the world do you blacklist it
[05:42] <farous> Sivik: the main prob is searching for the proper driver
[05:42] <scrappy_> nubious: youll have to add that to /etc/fstab and under the options put defaults,umask=000
[05:42] <LethalSword> erm
[05:42] <orbin> Sivik: it's on that wiki page
[05:42] <LethalSword> cody@cody-desktop:~$ tar xvzf clamav-0.88.4.tar.gz
[05:42] <LethalSword> tar: clamav-0.88.4.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[05:42] <LethalSword> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[05:42] <LethalSword> tar: Child returned status 2
[05:42] <LethalSword> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[05:42] <farous> Sivik: give me a min am udpating now will talk to you in detail mean while lookup the forums
[05:42] <scrappy_> nubious: might not be the best way but thats how i do it
[05:42] <Sivik> ok
[05:42] <Sivik> farous, thanks
[05:43] <LethalSword> the tar is on my desktop
[05:43] <orbin> LethalSword: clamav is in the repos... why intsall from source?
[05:43] <LethalSword> how do i do that?
[05:43] <orbin> you're just make things hard on yourself
[05:43] <nalioth> LethalSword: please don't paste in here, use a pastebin
[05:43] <LethalSword> ok sry
[05:43] <Sivik> farous: i have gotten the native drivers to work in the past, i'm just not getting any on iwlist scan and a non valid ap when i set it up myself
[05:43] <orbin> ew, bad english...
[05:43] <farous> Sivik: will give you a link for now http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[05:43] <Sivik> ok
[05:43] <LethalSword> orbin, where do i access the repos?
[05:43] <Tsukino> !pastebin
[05:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:43] <orbin> LethalSword: use synaptic or any other apt tool
[05:43] <micahcowan> LethalSword, sudo apt-get install clamav
[05:43] <orbin> LethalSword: sys > admin > synaptic
[05:44] <micahcowan> (synaptic is better if you're not used to doing things on command-line)
[05:44] <blind> Google videos have no sound. how do i change that?
[05:44] <tate_> Hi, I built an athlon64 system and installed mythtv on it, things were going fine until this morning I installed Quake4. Now it tells me when I try to access anything administrative that the .Xauthority file can't be copied. I tried a restart and now I can't start an X session at all. Help, this is my media box and it's totally hosed over one file. I may have to reformat, if so I don't think Ubuntu will be residing on that drive.
[05:44] <orbin> LethalSword: micahcowan's command will get it for you too... up to you on which one you want to use
[05:45] <tate_> sorry for the length, but it's kind aurgent
[05:45] <LethalSword> the command doesnt work
[05:45] <LethalSword> says the file is locked
[05:45] <micahcowan> blind, perhaps something else's hogging the soundcard?
[05:45] <blind> micahcowan: nothing else is running :\
[05:45] <micahcowan> huh.
[05:45] <Nimwei> Greetings - I just downloaded the i386 6.06 alternat iso from the website and burned it but it doesn't appear to be a bootable CD. Is there a way to get it to boot? I've got a IBM boot CD with a "boot:" prompt...any ideas?
[05:45] <micahcowan> Other programs can emit sounds?
[05:45] <orbin> LethalSword: b/c synaptic is open probably ... you're going to need to enable the additional repositories anyway ... settings > repositories in synaptic
[05:46] <scrappy_> tate_: ls -l ~/ | grep .X     is the .Xauthority file owned by you or root?
[05:46] <tate_> by me
[05:46] <scrappy_> tate_: ls -la ~/ | grep .X
[05:47] <orbin> Nimwei: what happens when you boot w/ the disk in?
[05:47] <LethalSword> ok repositories all enabled
[05:47] <scrappy_> tate_: hrmm
[05:47] <Nimwei> It just goes to the generic graphical prompt telling me to strike F1 or enter the boot diskette.
[05:47] <tate_> yeah, ridiculous
[05:47] <orbin> LethalSword: click on reload ... search for clamav, double-click on it when found and it's installed
[05:47] <orbin> actually...you have to click on apply after dbl-clicking it
[05:48] <Nimwei> I'm at a boot prompt from another CD I have.  Any idea if there is a bootable kernel image on the 6.06 CD?
[05:48] <orbin> Nimwei: have you checked that the cd drive is the first boot device in bios?
[05:48] <Nimwei> Yeah, I'm sure.
[05:48] <scrappy_> tate_: well i guess you could always useradd and see if that user can login :)
[05:48] <LethalSword> im doing the command prompt way
[05:48] <LethalSword> less clicking :P
[05:48] <Nimwei> It boots other CD's fine.  It almost seems like the image I burnt isn't bootable.
[05:49] <orbin> Nimwei: what does the contents look like?
[05:49] <Nimwei> One second.
[05:49] <tate_> I tried that, it can't
[05:49] <Tsukino> Nimwei: Did you do a check on the iso you used to burn the CD?
[05:49] <tate_> I think I may have to format which is insane
[05:49] <DanaG> argh, I need a new ALSA version.
[05:50] <Nimwei> No, I didn't Tsukino.  I downloaded it directly from the Ubuntu Torrent and burned it with Alcohol120%
[05:50] <eugman> Hey, is it possible to make an ubuntu livecd that is just console? No gui.
[05:50] <LethalSword> !tell LethalSword about whine
[05:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about whine - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:50] <Tsukino> hrm, if you got it from the torrent, the hash should be fine then
[05:50] <Tsukino> did you burn the CD at full speed?
[05:50] <orbin> Tsukino: doesn't he need to be able to boot from it to verify it anyway?
[05:51] <Tsukino> Sometimes people say they have trouble making a bootable CD if they burn it at high speeds.
[05:51] <orbin> !wine > LethalSword
[05:51] <Nimwei> Yep, "maximum" speed.
[05:51] <Tsukino> orbin: To verify the CD yes, but not the ISO he downloaded to make the CD with
[05:51] <LethalSword> lol thanks orbin :)
[05:51] <orbin> Tsukino: ah, gotcha
[05:51] <Tsukino> Nimwei: Try burning the CD at 12x or less
[05:51] <George> hrmm
[05:51] <DanaG> !I need a new ALSA version!
[05:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about I need a new ALSA version! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:51] <George> edgy doesn't seem to render fonts at all
[05:52] <DanaG> When can I expect to see an update in the repos?
[05:52] <Sivik> DanaG: sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:53] <jmghost> Has anyone seen that bug before? My desktop is completely unresponsive of mouse events -- although I can see the mouse moving, I can't click on anything
[05:53] <Nimwei> Tsukino - I'll try that.  I'll let you know in a second.
[05:53] <DanaG> Last time I looked, there wasn't an update available.
[05:53] <farous> Sivik: you black list bcm43xx in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[05:53] <farous> now to reboot
[05:53] <DanaG> I need 1.0.11-something
[05:53] <scrappy_> tate_: maybe you can use the xauth command to generate a new file?
[05:53] <orbin> DanaG: unlikely it will be in the official repos...unless it's a bug fix or security update iirc
[05:53] <nalioth> mon9oose: 4x or less, does the trick
[05:53] <Kr0ntab> jmghost, I've run into it at least 3 times...  once just today.
[05:53] <Kr0ntab> kind of weird...
[05:53] <jmghost> BTW, I tried restarting (killing) metacity, nautilus, the gnome panel, ...
[05:54] <Kr0ntab> had to kill X...
[05:54] <jmghost> Kr0ntab, how do you recover from that?
[05:54] <mon9oose> nalioth: Ok, I'll try again ... and for fun, 2x.
[05:54] <jmghost> Crap!!
[05:54] <LethalSword> clamav is installed, do i have to update it or anything?
[05:54] <Kr0ntab> ctrl + alt + backspace
[05:54] <jmghost> Kr0ntab, using Dapper?
[05:54] <Kr0ntab> yup
[05:54] <Sivik> LethalSword, sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:54] <nalioth> !tell mon9oose about verify
[05:54] <tate_> is that something root has to use?
[05:54] <Kr0ntab> It's mostly happened on my latptop...
[05:54] <nalioth> mon9oose: make sure your iso image is good
[05:55] <jmghost> Dammit, kind of makes WinXP looks like a stable OS after all...
[05:55] <scrappy_> tate_: what does 'xauth list' say?
[05:55] <tate_> I'll know in a second, coming up off a reboot
[05:56] <tate_> xauth list as root or as the user?
[05:56] <Kr0ntab> eh... I'm thinkin it's related to ACPI, as I think each time it's occurred after a lid open event... screen blanking after idle.. or some other variable.
[05:56] <Kr0ntab> haven't narrowed it down...
[05:56] <Nimwei> Tsukino - That appears to have fixed it.  I'll try the install now and see how she goes.
[05:56] <scrappy_> tate_: user
[05:56] <carthik> How can I update the firmware on my dvd writer using Ubuntu (I don't have windows on this machine)
[05:56] <Kr0ntab> although it is just X... so maybe it's an xorg thing
[05:57] <Nimwei> Thanks for the heads up.
[05:57] <scrappy_> tate_: i know next to nothing about it :)
[05:57] <Nimwei> carthik - Search your manufacturer's website fora  linux firmware upgrade.
[05:57] <Sivik> carthik, or check the wiki for ubuntu for the certain drive type
[05:58] <carthik> Nimwei, tried that and failed
[05:58] <wubrgamer> how do i burn mp3's in k3b ? or gnomebaker ?
[05:58] <wubrgamer> or something else ?
[05:58] <LethalSword> Does linux ever need to be defragged?
[05:58] <Nimwei> or install the drive in a windows box, upgrade the firmware and then put it back into your linux box.
[05:58] <wubrgamer> it's urgent, i promised my friend i'd burn him a cd
[05:58] <jmghost> Kr0ntab, different for me, I didn't have any ACPI event. But it seems to happen a lot with rdesktop
[05:59] <jmghost> Kr0ntab, bothered to send a bug report or you've given up like I did?
[05:59] <Kr0ntab> omg...
[05:59] <Kr0ntab> wait.
[05:59] <Kr0ntab> same thing here
[05:59] <scrappy_> LethalSword: you dont have to worry about it is sort of an automatic process in ext3 i think
[05:59] <Kr0ntab> thats exactly what it is
[05:59] <jmghost> euh?
[05:59] <Animesh> Hi all. I am an ubuntu newbie. I have been trying to install ubuntu using an iso I downloaded, but the CD seems to have an error.
[05:59] <LethalSword> lol
[05:59] <Kr0ntab> I was idle in rdesktop for a while... and thats when it happened
[05:59] <LethalSword> its not needed says the bot :p
[05:59] <Animesh> I wanted to verify the md5 checksum of the iso
[06:00] <Nimwei> Ah, speaking of ext3.  Does Unbuntu format in Reiser so my windows network can access the shares or no?
[06:00] <carthik> Nimwei, I dont have a win machine... :(
[06:00] <sethk> Animesh, ok
[06:00] <orbin> wubrgamer: what do you want to do?
[06:00] <Animesh> but I am not able to find the md5 file for the ISO
[06:00] <sethk> Animesh, usually on the site
[06:00] <wubrgamer> never mind
[06:00] <wubrgamer> found the package
[06:00] <wubrgamer> thanks though
[06:00] <sethk> Animesh, what url are you using to download?
[06:00] <Animesh> I checked the mirror site, but no .md5 files
[06:00] <sethk> Animesh, not necessarily .md5
[06:00] <Animesh> http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/6.06/
[06:01] <sethk> Animesh, the file can have any name.  look for a text file of short length with the same initial name
[06:01] <monkster> Once you burn the CD, there is a "check CD" option... fwiw
[06:01] <Kr0ntab> jmghost, rdesktop is the common factor.  after the remote host's screen blanks after some idle time... trying to move the mouse over it, killed X...
[06:01] <jmghost> Kr0ntab, is it always happening with rdesktop?
[06:01] <Animesh> I knoiw.. and I will check the CD..
[06:01] <Animesh> is it the MDSUMS file?
[06:01] <sethk> Animesh, I see .iso on that page
[06:01] <Kr0ntab> now that you mention it... on at least 2 of the occasions... I had an idled rdesktop session
[06:01] <Animesh> 645 bytes
[06:01] <jmghost> Kr0ntab, it killed X or just the mouse?
[06:01] <Nimwei> Or is ext3 readable by Windows? I forget. It's been a while.
[06:01] <Kr0ntab> just the mouse...
[06:01] <sethk> Animesh, 645 is certainly a possible
[06:02] <sethk> Animesh, yes, called MD5SUMS
[06:02] <yozBuntu> nimwei, certainly not natively
[06:02] <Animesh> okie.
[06:02] <sethk> Animesh, yes, that file has a bunch of md5 sums, you should find the one you need there
[06:02] <Animesh> also.. I am new to md5 on win32
[06:02] <naa> wow, this add/install programs thing is really cool
[06:02] <Animesh> any preferred utils for win md5?
[06:02] <yozBuntu> naa, you talking about synaptic ?
[06:02] <naa> I could just sit here for like 9 minutes going "oh man, I totally gotta get in on that *check*"
[06:02] <naa> synaptic is what it's called?
[06:02] <Sivik> Animesh, why are you in an ubuntu chanell if your asking about win32?
[06:03] <sethk> Animesh, I install cygwin on all my windows boxes and use the same progs I use with linux, so I have no ideas about other windows progs
[06:03] <yozBuntu> the titlebar of the window should tell you what it is?
[06:03] <sethk> Sivik, he is checking the md5sum of an ubuntu cd that he's burning
[06:03] <Animesh> @Sivik, because I am installing ubuntu, after downloading on a win machine
[06:03] <naa> it just says "add/remove applications"
[06:03] <sethk> Sivik, so it's an acceptable question
[06:03] <Sivik> Animesh, md5sum
[06:03] <Sivik> sethk: ok
[06:03] <eimajenthat> hello, I'm trying to get my atheros wireless card to work in Xubuntu.  Works automatically in Ubuntu and Kubuntu.  Don't even know where to start.  Can anyone give me a hint?
[06:03] <jmworx> Kr0ntab: strange... I just managed to recoved without having to kill X
[06:03] <eon_> when i do apt-get remove mysql-server-5.0 and then reinstall it, it still is pulling config from somewhere, cause i get access denied when trying to log onto the db
[06:03] <eon_> how do i go about fixing this/
[06:03] <Animesh> how about md5deep on sourceforge
[06:03] <Animesh> ?
[06:03] <Nimwei> Cool. I'm manually setting up a 69gb reiserfs and a 3gb swap.
[06:03] <Tsukino> Animesh, I used a program called md5summer, seemed to work fairly well
[06:03] <Animesh> any ideas
[06:04] <Ezdo> <3 [Ex0r] 
[06:04] <Animesh> ok Tsukino.
[06:04] <scrappy_> eon_: apt-get remove --purge package
[06:04] <DanaG> Look at changelog for 1.0.11 -- it's major for me.
[06:04] <Sivik> Animesh, your could try it
[06:04] <DanaG> Audigy 2 Notebook.
[06:04] <sethk> Animesh, I don't know, but you can certainly try it.  install cygwin, then you have the same progs everywhere
[06:04] <eon_> scrappy_:  thanks, ill give it a shot
[06:04] <tate_> this is monstrously infuriating.  I am about to lose an ubuntu install because of one file
[06:04] <Animesh> Thanks all.
[06:04] <sethk> Animesh, or look around for an md5sum compiled for win32, which shouldn't be hard to find
[06:04] <Animesh> good idea sethk.
[06:04] <[Ex0r] > wth ?
[06:05] <Animesh> bye. thanks.
[06:05] <Sivik> Animesh, try googling it
[06:05] <[Ex0r] > <Ezdo> <3 [Ex0r] 
[06:05] <[Ex0r] > what was that about ?
[06:05] <George> anyone else got trouble with fonts on edgy?
[06:05] <Sivik> George, what kernel version is edgy?
[06:05] <Ezdo> <3 [Ex0r] 
[06:05] <Ezdo> <3 [H5N1] 
[06:05] <Ezdo> <3 [NP] Tangent
[06:05] <Ezdo> <3 [nuts] 
[06:05] <Ezdo> <3 [PUPPETS] Gonzo
[06:05] <George> Sivik: 2.6.17.5
[06:05] <George> Sivik: but I'm running a self-compiled 2.6.17.8
[06:06] <[Ex0r] > ah, looks like he's bot fishing
[06:06] <Sivik> George, is edgy a new ubuntu or something?
[06:06] <George> Sivik: yes
[06:06] <Sivik> George, when did it come out
[06:06] <Sivik> George, i though they just released dapper
[06:06] <orbin> naa: no, different apps ... add/remove is a nice interface to applications only (i think), whereas synaptic (sys > admin) shows all available packages
[06:06] <steveO_> they did
[06:06] <steveO_> dapper is the stable.
[06:06] <Ezdo> <3 [Ex0r] 
[06:06] <Ezdo> <3 [H5N1] 
[06:06] <Ezdo> <3 [NP] Tangent
[06:06] <Ezdo> <3 [nuts] 
[06:06] <Ezdo> <3 [PUPPETS] Gonzo
[06:06] <Ezdo> <3 [Wiebel] 
[06:06] <TheGame> hey
[06:06] <steveO_> edgy eft is the experimental
[06:06] <Sivik> ok
[06:06] <joemauch> is 7000FPS in glxgears mean i'm on accelerated drivers, not the MesaGL?
[06:06] <TheGame> how do i change how many lines my mouse wheel scrolls in firefox
[06:07] <steveO_> root, irc'ing as root is bad.
[06:07] <Sivik> joemauch, anything over 1000 means its accelerated
[06:07] <TheGame> any1?
[06:07] <orbin> steveO_: lucky he left then :)
[06:08] <TheGame> do i have to change it in xorg?
[06:09] <Sivik> TheGame, have you tried looking in the perferences for firefox?
[06:09] <TheGame> well i want it to change how many lines i scroll in general
[06:09] <Sivik> TheGame, gnome or kde?
[06:09] <TheGame> gnome
[06:09] <Sivik> TheGame, try looking in the mouse perferences in the control center
[06:09] <TheGame> its not there
[06:10] <c0mp3ng> Hey, anyone here using a gdesklet for weather that works?
[06:10] <carthik> I have the new firmware for my dvd rewriter - how do I flash the firmware in Ubuntu?
[06:10] <TheGame> the weather that comes with it works fine
[06:10] <sethk> most programs set their own scroll/click, rather than getting it from the WM
[06:10] <TheGame> WM?
[06:11] <sethk> window manager
[06:11] <varsendaggr> gdesklets seems flaky these days
[06:11] <iCod> anyone know of a cheap sound card compatible with ubuntu?
[06:11] <varsendaggr> he google earth is cool
[06:11] <dr_willis> carthik,  id have to say its proberly safest to use the dvd writers software under windows.
[06:11] <TheGame> like i know in windows you can set it in the mouse settings
[06:11] <sethk> iCod, millions of them
[06:11] <c0mp3ng> TheGame I entered a Yahoo weather URL, but it returns retrieval failed
[06:11] <orbin> yes, xmms let's you define scrollrate
[06:11] <dr_willis> iCod,  creative has some decent  cards for $25 or so
[06:11] <Sivik> TheGame, in kde, the number of lines that is scrolled at a time is in the control center
[06:11] <carthik> dr_willis, I don't have windows on any machine at home though
[06:11] <TheGame> try accuweather.com or weather.com
[06:11] <iCod> dr_willis , do most creative sound card work?
[06:11] <TheGame> im in gnome Sivik
[06:12] <dr_willis> carthik,  i dont advise running that kind of programs with wine.
[06:12] <Sivik> TheGame, i understand that, but i don't understand why its not in the control center somewhere for gnome
[06:12] <dr_willis> iCod,  not sure about some of their newer cards. But a nice Audigy2 card should work fine
[06:12] <TheGame> ya thats why i cant believeit either
[06:12] <powder> Audigy2 working fine here.
[06:12] <iCod> dr_willis and powder , thank you
[06:12] <dr_willis> iCod,  the X-fi cards are too new.. No linux support yet.
[06:12] <Sivik> TheGame, let me look in the gnome control center
[06:12] <TheGame> ok
[06:13] <iCod> ok
[06:13] <orbin> TheGame: for firefox: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=59815
[06:13] <Sivik> TheGame, i gues its not in it
[06:13] <sethk> sound has problems, sometimes, on very new hardware.  it does quite well on most common older sound hardware
[06:14] <dasos> is there a quick way to test the 3d support?
[06:14] <sethk> Sivik, there may be a setting for it in a file in .gnome2, even if there isn't a control center way to change it.
[06:14] <TheGame> thanks orbin
[06:14] <devz0r> hey i've read a number of posts regarding using the mplayer plugin for Opera
[06:14] <orbin> yes, it might be hidden in gconf...maybe ask in #gnome
[06:14] <devz0r> and they all say to use gecko sdk 1.6
[06:14] <Sivik> sethk, tell TheGame that, i'm not trying to do it in gnome, i can do it with either control center, i have both kde and gnome installed and they both work at the same time in e16
[06:15] <devz0r> here's the problem: i have no idea where to find the gecko sdk 1.6
[06:15] <TheGame> ?
[06:15] <devz0r> it seems to be missing from mozilla's ftp
[06:15] <devz0r> and i cannot find it on google
[06:15] <Sivik> devz0r, did you try searching in the apt-cache?
[06:15] <devz0r> no
[06:15] <mon9oose> Would the writing mode make a difference? ( mode 1 vs mode 2 /xa ) ( in regards to error reading boot cd from pretty boot menu )
[06:15] <devz0r> how do i get to that?
[06:16] <Sivik> its not there but it would be apt-cache search mplayer-plugin
[06:16] <iCod> Hey, about the sound card, how is this: http://cgi.ebay.com/Creative-Audigy-2-PCI-Sound-Card-Firewire-SB0240_W0QQitemZ110018909303QQihZ001QQcategoryZ44981QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[06:17] <orbin> TheGame: i didn't get it either :)
[06:17] <TheGame> ya i just changed it in firefox for now
[06:17] <devz0r> so is it hopeless or is the gecko sdk 1.6 somewhere out there
[06:17] <varsendaggr> is there a screen video capture app for linux?
[06:18] <orbin> varsendaggr: istanbul has been mentioned
[06:19] <iCod> are there any other suggestions on sound cards that work well in ubuntu, something in the $20 range
[06:19] <TheGame> i knwo dynex cards work
[06:19] <TheGame> and theyre in the $20 range
[06:19] <[Ex0r] > heh, i've been in #freenode-social for 25 minutes and haven't gotten voiced yet
[06:19] <iCod> thank you TheGame
[06:20] <Dorus> hi, my toolbar in Evolution is too long, but right-click doesn't do anything. Can I delete items from the toolbar ?
[06:20] <mon9oose> [Ex0r] : it's at the whim of the staffer.
[06:20] <userundefine> iCod, chaintech av-710.  25 bucks or so.  works well.
[06:20] <Sivik> Dorus, probably
[06:20] <Dorus> Sivik, how?
[06:20] <[Ex0r] > mon9oose- Apparentely there aren't any in the channel, because every time I go in there I sit for 20+ minutes with nothing and end up leaving
[06:21] <Sivik> Dorus, did you try right clicking on them?
[06:21] <orbin> iCod: might be worth a look: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCards
[06:21] <userundefine> [Ex0r] , what's it matter.  a +v is meaningless.
[06:21] <[Ex0r] > userundefine- because you can't talk in the channel without it?
[06:21] <powder> iCod, try this, http://www.linux.com/howtos/Hardware-HOWTO/sound.shtml
[06:21] <mon9oose> [Ex0r] : it took an hour last time ... use the ! copmmand to look at the staff list.
[06:21] <Dorus> Sivid, right-clicked between and on items, but that doesn't do anything.
[06:21] <jmworx> Kr0ntab: feel free to add details to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/55739
[06:21] <Sivik> not sure
[06:21] <tamale> Hello everyone, I found why X was failing to start.. it's trying to start up the sound config and it's failing because I don't have onboard sound on the computer the hard drive is in now... and I don't need / want sound at all... soo... how can I take out all references to a sound card in the X configuration?
[06:21] <iCod> powder, ok
[06:21] <userundefine> [Ex0r] , ah, I'm surprised anyone *actually* does that.
[06:21] <LethalSword> well
[06:21] <LethalSword> bye
[06:22] <Kr0ntab> kool deal
[06:22] <[Ex0r] > I was going to report that bot/person earlier that was flooding in here, but they left now
[06:22] <TheGame> ok
[06:22] <[Ex0r] > I gotta take back these crimpers tomorrow, they are junk
[06:22] <orbin> [Ex0r] : he quit w/ an excess flood ... doesn't that mean he got banned?
[06:23] <[Ex0r] > orbin- no, means he got booted off IRC from filling his sendq (Means he flooded himself offline)
[06:23] <TheGame> ive read that mousehweel scroll is hardcoded into gnome
[06:23] <TheGame> therefore cant be changed
[06:23] <Sivik> TheGame, another reason not to use gnome
[06:23] <TheGame> i dont like kde
[06:23] <orbin> [Ex0r] : maybe tell the "/stats p" person then
[06:23] <mon9oose> nice, sound support has way improved in the last 5 years ...
[06:23] <Sivik> TheGame, those aren't the only two gui's out there
[06:24] <[Ex0r] > orbin- nah, he's gone now
[06:24] <Sivik> TheGame, i use e16 cause i don't like kde nor gnome
[06:24] <TheGame> i like gnome tho
[06:24] <Sivik> kde looks too much like vista, and gnome looks too much like mac os 9
[06:24] <TheGame> true
[06:24] <TheGame> i dont like the look and feel of kde
[06:24] <TheGame> gnome feels fine
[06:24] <tamale> i think picking a gui for the way it looks is silly personally
[06:24] <TheGame> and gnome goes great with xglcompiz
[06:25] <Sivik> tamale, oh well, what do you use?
[06:25] <TheGame> tamale tell that to mac users
[06:25] <farous> anyone have this prob installing realplayer
[06:25] <Sivik> farous, haven't tried
[06:25] <tamale> i love xgl / compiz on gnome 'cause of the increased usability
[06:25] <Dorus> Is anyone able to right-click Evolution 2.6.1 toolbar to delete/add items?
[06:25] <DanaG> Firefox:  about:config in address bar.
[06:25] <farous> depends on xlibs but xlibs is virt package ?
[06:25] <DanaG> Search for mouse or scroll.
[06:25] <orbin> should take thit to offtopic, but i thought OSX was the top thing for usability
[06:25] <tamale> the eye candy is certainly nice too though  :)
[06:25] <farous> Sivik: how is it going with ndiswrapper
[06:25] <DanaG> Creative == AAAIEEEE.
[06:26] <Guitarhero11> Where do I put .ttf font files?
[06:26] <tamale> how can i take out all references to sound in X ?
[06:26] <tamale> i don't have a sound card..
[06:26] <Sivik> farous, i haven't tried ndiswrapper, i would rather do it with the bcm drivers, i have really never gotten it to work
[06:26] <orbin> DanaG: he's already changed it in firefox...he wants it system-wide
[06:26] <Sivik> tamale, try the xorg.conf
[06:26] <sethk> tamale, what do you mean, exactly, by take out all references?
[06:26] <farous> Sivik: do you have airforce ext card
[06:26] <DanaG> I think for desktop environments, _feel_ is what's important.
[06:27] <farous> Sivik: bcm43xx works only with b networks though
[06:27] <DanaG> Does it feel _natural_ to work with it?
[06:27] <tamale> sethk:  The install of ubuntu I did on machine X (which had a sound card) is now looking for it
[06:27] <Guitarhero11> how do i install a font?
[06:27] <tamale> and the new machine doesn't have sound at all
[06:27] <Sivik> farous, i know that
[06:27] <tamale> otherwise they're identical computers
[06:27] <Sivik> farous, my ap will work with either b or g
[06:27] <carthik> My DVD writer is sporadic when it comes to writing dvds - why is this so? It works some of the time, and some of the time it fails without any error messages when using k3b/gnomebaker etc
[06:27] <farous> Sivik: i might help you then i had it working here but did not like the speed
[06:27] <DanaG> Oh, and if you want 3 lines scroll, you can use imwheel to capture 1 scroll and send 3.
[06:27] <sethk> tamale, kde will tell you it couldn't find the sound hardware, and ask you whether it should shut up about it in the future
[06:27] <orbin> !font > Guitarhero11
[06:27] <tamale> sethk:  X isn't loading at all.
[06:27] <Sivik> farous, so you just use ndiswrapper?
[06:28] <tamale> sethk:  It's locking up
[06:28] <sethk> tamale, unlikely that is because of the sound
[06:28] <tamale> sethk:  And i'm on gnome
[06:28] <Guitarhero11> !font
[06:28] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[06:28] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[06:28] <eugman> Hey, how hard would it be to make an ubuntu like cd without the gui.
[06:28] <sethk> tamale, what do you see in the X log?
[06:28] <iCod> I'm gonna get the Sound Blaster Live! 24-Bit. Thanks for the help.
[06:28] <tamale> sethk:  There is tons and tons of messages about it in the x log
[06:28] <farous> Sivik: i use my wireless for streaming from my server. the open source was just too slow
[06:28] <sethk> tamale, that's probably true, but it doesn't mean that it is causing a lockup
[06:28] <orbin> Guitarhero11: i made ubotu send you pm to avoid a flood :P
[06:28] <sethk> tamale, what's the last thing you see in the X log?
[06:29] <Sivik> farous, but i would like to be able to use it when i'm in class at school, no matter how slow it is
[06:29] <DanaG> Oh, wait, who was asking about sound?
[06:29] <DanaG> Go to alsa-project.org
[06:29] <DanaG> look at their sound card list.
[06:29] <tamale> sethk: This is the last entry in the x error file:  (update-notifier:4924): WARNING **: hal_initialize failed: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory
[06:29] <Guitarhero11> i downloaded a font, where do i put it?
[06:29] <sethk> tamale, that's not sound.
[06:29] <orbin> Guitarhero11: read that wiki page...
[06:30] <ubuNICK> How do I get flash streaming on an amd64 system running Dapper Drake? I can't view video on sites such as Google Video and I want to.
[06:30] <tamale> sethK:  I thought this was though, am I right?
[06:30] <tamale> ALSA lib pcm.c:2102:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default
[06:30] <tamale> libhal.c 3057 : Error unsubscribing to signals, error=tQ
[06:30] <Sivik> ubuNICK, your screwed, flash is a beast in the 64 bit os
[06:30] <sethk> tamale, yes, snd_  is sound
[06:31] <tamale> sethk those lines were right above the last one i sent you
[06:31] <ubuNICK> Will it be fixed?
[06:31] <Guitarhero11> u cant just drag it into a folder?
[06:31] <sethk> tamale, if you do ls -l /var/run/dbus, do you have the socket file system_bus_socket?
[06:31] <OtavioRibeiro> ubuNICK: one day maybe! rs.
[06:31] <tamale> yes
[06:31] <userundefine> ubuNICK, not until Adobe gets their act together and supports 64bit.
[06:31] <sethk> tamale, srwxrwxrwx?
[06:31] <mon9oose> well, 2x failed as well ... and since i didn't grab the md5 from the mirror ... time to get a new copy. Are torrents more bit reliable than a browser download?
[06:31] <tamale> sethk: Yes
[06:32] <ubuNICK> So what will I need to do to view videos and stuff on places like Google Video?
[06:32] <Sivik> ubuNICK, probably
[06:32] <orbin> Guitarhero11: yes, follow the instructions
[06:32] <sethk> tamale, owned by root, group root?
[06:32] <Sivik> ubuNICK, try installing a 32 bit
[06:32] <Tsukino> Torrents have checking in the packets
[06:32] <Sivik> ubuNICK, thats what i have to do on both computers until all the apps work in the 64 bit system
[06:32] <tamale> sethk:  YEs
[06:32] <Tsukino> However large the packets are in a torrent, it hash checks each piece as they finish
[06:32] <ubuNICK> Alright Sivik, thanks.
[06:32] <DanaG> Is it possible to Wine uTorrent and run upload-only from a read-only partition?
[06:32] <OtavioRibeiro> ubuNICK: or you can run a mozilla 32 bits with the 32bit version and then install the flash plugin!
[06:32] <sethk> tamale, ok, let me check my log on the box without sound...
[06:33] <Sivik> ubuNICK, yw
[06:33] <Tsukino> You can run hash checks on completed torrents as well
[06:33] <ubuNICK> Oh, sounds like a plan indeed.
[06:33] <mon9oose> Tsukino: so, yes.
[06:33] <Tsukino> But 99.9% of the time, if a torrent finishes, the hash was fine
[06:33] <OtavioRibeiro> ubuNICK: or you can run the mozilla with wine.. and use the windows native plugin!
[06:33] <ushineko> dchroot ftw
[06:33] <Tsukino> If any part is bad when it's downloaded, the hash will fail and it'll discard that piece and try again
[06:33] <Sivik> OtavioRibeiro, excepts its rather difficult to get wine to workon the 64 bit system
[06:33] <ubuNICK> I'm staying as far away from windows as possible. ;)
[06:34] <Sivik> ubuNICK, just cause you use wine, doesn't mean windows by any means
[06:34] <OtavioRibeiro> Sivik: http://www.winehq.org/?issue=317#Wine%20on%2064-bit%20AMD%20/%20Ubuntu
[06:34] <sethk> tamale, looks like the "failed to open" error message is somewhat misleading.  What version of ubuntu are you running?
[06:34] <Sivik> OtavioRibeiro, then they finally fixed it
[06:35] <tamale> sethk:  Dapper 6.06
[06:35] <AllenA> i just installed my graphics card driver (pci tnt2 modle 64) usin the nvidia-glx-legacy driver and now my max resolution is 1024x768... is there a line in my xorg.conf i could add another res to aloow me to use a higher res?
[06:35] <OtavioRibeiro> Sivik: I don't know... i've just read it...
[06:35] <Sivik> OtavioRibeiro, ok
[06:35] <tamale> sethk:  Linux dubuntu 2.6.15-26-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 03:13:28 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:35] <sethk> tamale, I'm one version behind you.  I always wait a couple of months before loading up a new version
[06:35] <Sivik> AllenA, run glxgears -printfps and inform us of what you get
[06:36] <Sivik> AllenA, there is a way to add the line in the xorg.conf
[06:36] <tamale> sethk:  I couldn't get breezy to install at all on this machine.. didn't have the agp support  :)
[06:36] <steve_Laptop> hello all
[06:36] <Guitarhero11> thanks guys got it working
[06:36] <sethk> tamale, that's odd.  what mobo?  what video card?
[06:37] <Sivik> tamale, no agp support in breezy
[06:37] <tamale> sethk:  It was a very strange problem
[06:37] <AllenA> 1301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 258.290 FPS was the highest
[06:37] <tamale> sethk:  People in here tried to help me for the better part of a month
[06:37] <AllenA> 991 frames in 5.0 seconds = 198.108 FPS
[06:37] <AllenA>  was the lowest
[06:37] <tamale> sethk:  Dapper installed form the live cd without a SINGLE hitch
[06:38] <sethk> Sivik, what do you mean by that?  there is certainly agp support
[06:38] <Sivik> sethk, it was a question
[06:38] <sethk> tamale, well, except that apparently it won't run
[06:38] <Sivik> tamale> sethk:  I couldn't get breezy to install at all on this machine.. didn't have the agp support
[06:38] <sethk> Sivik, possibly he meant support for a particular agp chipset?
[06:38] <tamale> sethk:  It ran fine on the first machine, this is a new machine the hard drive is in now
[06:39] <Sivik> sethk: maybe
[06:39] <tamale> sethk:  Same kind of machine in every way, just no sound card.
[06:39] <tamale> it had to do with the gart driver
[06:39] <sethk> tamale, it would be interesting to put the sound card into it.  I'm not sure what I would predict
[06:39] <tamale> i might just have to end up doing that.
[06:39] <tamale> problem is it's in a datacenter
[06:39] <tamale> so i can't exactly get to it easily
[06:39] <ubuNICK> Sivik, what do you think I should do? Run wine or use the 32 bit version?
[06:40] <Sivik> ubuNICK, install a 32-bit ubuntu
[06:40] <Sivik> ubuNICK, thats what i'm doing until the 64 bit stuff works
[06:40] <tamale> 32 bit is plenty fast anyway  :)
[06:40] <ubuNICK> Does it run videos and stuff just as well?
[06:40] <TheGame> 64bit is overhyped
[06:41] <dr_willis> at this time - 64bit benifits are sort of minimal. sadly.
[06:41] <steve_Laptop> ? now that I have the web/mail server up how or what do I need to do to get postfix or the mail clint to get my mail?
[06:41] <steve_Laptop> damn newbies
[06:41] <tamale> sethk:  So any other ideas?  What exactly makes x look for a sound card anyway?  xorg.conf?
[06:41] <steve_Laptop> :)
[06:41] <Sivik> farous, even with the ndiswrapper, it still says it can't scan for any networks
[06:41] <mon9oose> ha, the torrent client (azureus) picked up the iso i had and started checking ... nice way to salvage a download.
[06:42] <Sivik> and it never says that wlan0 is present when i use the ndiswrapper, it always appears as eth1
[06:42] <farous> Sivik: what card do you have
[06:42] <Madpilot> mon9oose, most bittorrent clients can restart downloads like that
[06:42] <Sivik> bcm 4318
[06:42] <farous> Sivik: and all depends on the driver you install
[06:42] <mon9oose> this was reastaring a download that was started from firefox.
[06:42] <farous> Sivik: did you download the driver from the website
[06:43] <Sivik> farous: i installed the bcmwl5.inf
[06:43] <farous> Sivik: there are many of them floating around
[06:43] <Sivik> or am i now having issues cause there is the bcm firmware in the /lib/firmware folder as well as the ndiswrapper stuff?
[06:43] <Madpilot> mon9oose, not a torrent? OK, that's a more interesting trick
[06:43] <mon9oose> it saved 400mb of downloading.
[06:43] <farous> Sivik: so you have the wlan0 device right
[06:43] <mon9oose> (again)
[06:44] <Sivik> let me see if i can find it anywhere
[06:44] <farous> Sivik: i have the firmware here no prob
[06:44] <TheGame> how can i change the gnome panel to be less than 23 pixels
[06:44] <Sivik> farous, i don't have a wlan0 device
[06:44] <AllenA> sivik: i let it run for a little then averaged it to about 266 fps
[06:44] <farous> Sivik: let me see the correct device name
[06:44] <Sivik> AllenA, then you don't have the drivers installed  correctly, i have a friend with a tnt 2 and it runs just over 1k fps when the drivers are installed correctly
[06:44] <farous> Sivik: lsmod |grep ndiswrapper
[06:45] <Sivik> forfarndiswrapper 177364 0
[06:46] <Sivik> farous, ndiswrapper 177364 0, and usbcore               130692  5 ndiswrapper,usbhid,ehci_hcd,ohci_hcd
[06:46] <farous> Sivik: and what does iwconfig say
[06:46] <mon9oose> Madpilot: unexpected windfall, to say the least.
[06:46] <DanaG> WTF is Internet Time?
[06:46] <Sivik> farous, eth1
[06:46] <AllenA> sivik: cool, good to know
[06:46] <farous> Sivik: so your dev is eth1
[06:46] <AllenA> ill work on it tomarrow
[06:46] <Dvoraks_Nemesis> isn't internet time just the clock syncked to the interweb?
[06:46] <farous> Sivik: iwlist eth1 scan
[06:46] <Madpilot> DanaG, from what I've read, a semi-serious idea that never caught on
[06:46] <bimberi> TheGame: choose a smaller Application font size (system -> prefs -> font)
[06:46] <AllenA> thanks yall, im out
[06:46] <Sivik> farous: no scan results
[06:47] <farous> Sivik: you know there are wireless broadcasting near you right
[06:47] <Gumby> Sivik & farous not all cards have the option of scanning
[06:47] <Gumby> especially with ndiswrapper
[06:47] <JamesM> yeah
[06:47] <OtavioRibeiro> Sivik: so.. that link really works!
[06:47] <TheGame> bimberi: will that effect firefox
[06:47] <farous> Gumby: but it would say scanning not supported right
[06:47] <OtavioRibeiro> Sivik: i'm compiling wine here!
[06:47] <Gumby> farous: it should yes
[06:48] <JamesM>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY shomen
[06:48] <JamesM> oh, crap
[06:48] <Gumby> lol
[06:48] <TheGame> what is the name of the font that apple uses on osx
[06:48] <bimberi> TheGame: possibly, but you can always use <CTRL>+ and <CTRL>- in firefox to change its own fontsize
[06:48] <JamesM> Gumby: Thanks
[06:48] <Gumby> lol
[06:48] <Sivik> god, i was tired of kde
[06:49] <Sivik> this is so much smoother
[06:49] <Sivik> farous, still no scan resluts
[06:49] <Sivik> results*
[06:49] <steve_Laptop> ? now that I have the web/mail server up how or what do I need to do to get postfix or the mail clint to get my mail?
[06:49] <Gumby> Sivik: does it mention anything about not supporting scanning for et1?
[06:49] <Gumby> eth1
[06:49] <sethk> steve_Laptop, hmm?  postfix is a mail server, so your question didn't make sense
[06:50] <Sivik> Gumby, no
[06:50] <Gumby> steve_Laptop: to run a mail server you need smtp and pop3 support. or at least those are the most common protocols
[06:50] <sethk> steve_Laptop, once you have a mail server set up, you just tell your client the ip of the mail server.  If it's the same box, it is localhost
[06:50] <steve_Laptop> sethk, thats because I dont no what the fell Im talking about
[06:50] <JamesM> why doesn't anyone use evolution for mail?
[06:50] <steve_Laptop> how do I get mail now
[06:50] <sethk> JamesM, I found it to be buggy
[06:50] <Sivik> Gumby, i have used the bcm before and havent' had a problem, but it hasn't been working lately, since i have upgraded
[06:50] <steve_Laptop> or send mail
[06:50] <derekS> in gnome terminal, i have it set to use the "system terminal font"...how do i figure out what that is
[06:51] <Gumby> Sivik: which bcm card?  lspci |grep -i broadcom
[06:51] <farous> Sivik: what does ndiswrapper -l say
[06:51] <scrappy_> JamesM: whats wrong with mutt?
[06:51] <JamesM> scrappy_:nothing, I just like evolution
[06:51] <Sivik> farous: i have already told you, it just says ndiswrapper    177364    0
[06:52] <cristophine> Hi all. I'm trying to setup a print server between two ubuntu machines. Unfortunately, the client cannot connect to the server. Is there a simple way to do this?
[06:52] <TheGame> any1 know the standard osx font name
[06:52] <naa_> Lucida Grande, Thegame
[06:52] <Gumby> Sivik: that was the output to a totally different command than what farous asked you
[06:52] <Alynna> ok am I to believe that ubuntu gets linux-kernel-2.6.15-26-686 but there is no linux-restricted-modules for it?
[06:52] <JamesM> Sivik:  have you tried intalling the bcm34xx stuff?
[06:52] <cristophine> I've tried the instructions listed on http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_print_on_remote_Ubuntu_machine_from_another_Ubuntu_machine
[06:52] <farous> Sivik: ndiswrapper -l should tell you driver present, hardware present if it work properly
[06:52] <TheGame> so how do you install it in ubuntu naa_
[06:52] <Sivik> Gumby: 0000:05:02.0 network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g wireless LAN Controller
[06:52] <naa_> no idea, I just started with ubuntu
[06:53] <Sivik> JamesM, thats what i have been trying
[06:53] <naa_> I'm trying to figure out how to work ndiswrapper
[06:53] <Sivik> bcmwl5  driver present, hardware present
[06:53] <farous> Sivik: airforce will simply not work as posted on the forum i sent you
[06:53] <JamesM> Sivik: You're on x86, right?
[06:53] <steve_Laptop> Gumby, so being I like to use IMAP I need to set up smtp and IMAP is this correct and were can I find the howtos for that? thank you
[06:53] <Sivik> JamesM, yes, dapper 32-bit
[06:53] <Gumby> Sivik: I have that exact card and got it working without ndiswrapper.  I also got it working with ndiswrapper however I had to compile ndiswrapper from source.  it didnt like my driver for some reason
[06:53] <Gumby> farous: I used that URL with airforce and it worked :)
[06:53] <Sivik> what driver did you use?
[06:54] <farous> Sivik: last resort just try a driver that worked for other look at this page http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page
[06:54] <Sivik> farous, i already used one of those drivers, the one from the acer computer
[06:54] <Gumby> Sivik: not sure which driver it was.  Its been on my home partition for about a year now
[06:54] <Gumby> heh
[06:54] <farous> Gumby: i think you are lucky :) have not used the card myself
[06:54] <mon9oose> TheGame: fonts that ship with Mac OS X, include; Hoefler Text, Didot, and Zapfino.
[06:54] <scrappy_> Alynna: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[06:54] <TheGame> is it possible to install those fonts
[06:54] <farous> Sivik: i had to try 11 for one to work
[06:54] <Sivik> Gumby: lucky, mine will finally work and then work like twice and then no longer work
[06:54] <Gumby> steve_Laptop: if you google for it you will find the answer
[06:54] <mon9oose> TheGame: http://daringfireball.net/misc/2005/04/tiger_details search AAT
[06:54] <steve_Laptop> k
[06:55] <farous> Sivik: by the way do you use wep encryption
[06:55] <Stickittotheman> can i install a 32bit xubuntu on a 64but AMD?
[06:55] <Gumby> Sivik: I havnt tested it much as far as changing locations etc yet
[06:55] <Sivik> farous, yes
[06:55] <Gumby> Stickittotheman: yes you sure can
[06:55] <farous> Sivik: turn it off and try to test first
[06:55] <Sivik> Gumby, my ap is within 3 feet of where i am
[06:55] <mon9oose> TheGame: i spose if somone gets tehm to you ...
[06:55] <JamesM> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174&highlight=broadcom
[06:55] <JamesM> tried this, sivok?
[06:55] <Stickittotheman> gumby: thank god, nothing is compatible with 64bit
[06:55] <Gumby> Sivik: well, mine can see and use my AP 100% of the time thus far
[06:55] <JamesM> sivik, my fault
[06:55] <Gumby> Stickittotheman: everything is compatible.
[06:55] <farous> Sivik: open-wep encryption never worked here whatever i tried
[06:55] <Sivik> farous, ok
[06:56] <Gumby> Stickittotheman: 64bit cpu's are backwards compatible with 32bit os's
[06:56] <Gumby> at least AMD64 is
[06:56] <ripple> whooosh..noob attack!! ... hey
[06:56] <scrappy_> Stickittotheman: i would install the regular ubuntu the install k7 kernel.
[06:56] <Stickittotheman> gumby: I meant no software is compatible with 64but
[06:56] <Gumby> Stickittotheman: lots is.  just not all
[06:56] <Stickittotheman> meh
[06:56] <Sivik> Gumby, yes, thats how i'm running ubuntu on both this machine and my desktop
[06:56] <Gumby> stick with 32bit OS for now though
[06:56] <dragon> hi
[06:56] <ripple> hey does anyone now how to solve the broadcom wireless issue with the BMC
[06:57] <Sivik> ripple: what kind of issue?
[06:57] <Stickittotheman> ya, im on 64bit OS right now, and its too much of a hassle so i'm downloading the 32bit ISO
[06:57] <dragon> id like some help with frost wire on 5.04
[06:57] <ripple> hmm well right now it doesn not show up in network
[06:57] <Sivik> dragon: state the issue
[06:57] <dragon> <<<<<<*nix noob
[06:57] <Sivik> ripple: try sudo ifconfig ethX (wlan0) up
[06:57] <dragon> tit says it cant find java exec in path
[06:58] <dragon> i open the icon
[06:58] <Sivik> dragon: google
[06:58] <farous> dragon: install java
[06:58] <farous> !java > dragon
[06:58] <ripple> it has been yeras away from linux so
[06:58] <dragon> i have java installed
[06:58] <ripple> ive tried almost everything on the help site already
[06:58] <farous> dragon: which java. I think it need sun java
[06:58] <Sivik> do you have the j2dk package installed
[06:59] <dragon> tryed that
[06:59] <dragon> then
[06:59] <Sivik> dragon, sudo apt-get install j2re1.4
[06:59] <ripple> eth0 is my lan.. eth1 was the wlan but now it is gone
[06:59] <Sivik> ripple: ok, sudo ifconfig -a
[06:59] <ripple> j2dk??
[06:59] <Sivik> ripple, ifconfig -a
[06:59] <dragon> remember im on hoary hedghog
[06:59] <ripple> gottcha
[06:59] <Sivik> draconius, so
[06:59] <dragon> not dapper
[07:00] <Sivik> dragon, why are you in an old kernel?
[07:00] <dragon> 11 sec ill try wot siv said
[07:00] <farous> dragon: sudo update-alterrnatives --config java. see which java you want running and select it
[07:00] <farous> dragon: update-alternatives
[07:00] <ripple> eth0 & lo & sit
[07:00] <Sivik> ripple, are you using ndiswrapper or the bcm drivers?
[07:01] <mon9oose> I'll assume that if the torrented version of the iso fails, i have deeper issues ... thanks all.
[07:01] <Sivik> ripple: if your using the bcm drivers, do you have the firmware extracted in the /lib/firmware folder?
[07:01] <ripple> tried both .. not sure how to tell which one im using now.. tied both several times
[07:01] <ripple> yes have the firmware .o file extracted there.. only there though
[07:01] <farous> ripple: lsmod |grep bcm43xx
[07:01] <Sivik> farous, good idea
[07:01] <farous> ripple: or lsmod |grep ndiswrapper
[07:02] <Sivik> farous, is there an issue if its trying to use both the ndiswrapper and the bcm mods?
[07:02] <dragon> ok siv
[07:02] <ripple> farous:: lsmod.. no output but it ran
[07:02] <farous> Sivik: will not work
[07:02] <Sivik> farous, so how do you turn on of them off?
[07:02] <farous> ripple: no output for the ndiswrapper or bcm
[07:02] <farous> Sivik: you remove the module rmmod
[07:03] <farous> Sivik: in case of bcm you have to blacklist it
[07:03] <ripple> the line lsmod |grep bcm43xx gave no output
[07:03] <ripple> but i ran it
[07:03] <dragon> it said that the file dont exist and farous urs said command not found
[07:03] <Sivik> farous, maybe thats the problem, i didn't blacklist the ndiswrapper
[07:03] <farous> ripple: try lsmod |grep ndiswra
[07:03] <ripple> oh i tried to black list it
[07:03] <farous> dragon: it might be a spelling error
[07:03] <ripple> i think i unblacklisted it
[07:04] <Sivik> farous, how do you blacklist again
[07:04] <farous> dragon: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[07:04] <dragon> i was told installin on linux was easy....so far neither americas army or frostwire can open
[07:04] <farous> Sivik: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[07:04] <Sivik> yeah
[07:04] <farous> add it to this file
[07:04] <Sivik> i found it
[07:04] <dragon> i tryed iut
[07:04] <Sivik> and just type, blacklist ndiswrapper correct
[07:04] <ripple> ndiswrapper           177364  0
[07:04] <ripple> usbcore               130692  5 ndiswrapper,usb_storage,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd
[07:04] <farous> Sivik: no add the bcm43xx to the file
[07:05] <dragon> it and it says update alterrnatives command not found
[07:05] <Sivik> farous: blacklist bcm43xx?
[07:05] <farous> ripple: you are using the ndiswrapper driver :)
[07:05] <ripple> ahah.. :) man i love unix.. it gives me such a buzz
[07:05] <dragon> jre-1_5_0_07-linux-i586 thats the java i have installed
[07:05] <farous> Sivik: does lsmod |grep bcm4 show it is loaded
[07:06] <Sivik> no, cause i removed it cause i have both the bcm43xx and the ndiswrapper at the same time
[07:06] <azureal> dragon: america's army is kinda hard to get working on linux, no?
[07:06] <Sivik> by doing the rmmod bcm43xx
[07:06] <azureal> may have to play w/ wine...
[07:06] <Sivik> dragon: have you tried cedega?
[07:06] <dragon> cedega?
[07:06] <s0undt3ch> wooot! Xubunto does not provide mplayer!?!?
[07:06] <Sivik> dragon, transgaming.com
[07:06] <Sivik> s0undt3ch, install it via apt-get install mplayer
[07:06] <Sivik> s0undt3ch, very simple
[07:07] <farous> Sivik: ok so just like the others on the file just add blacklist bcm43xx
[07:07] <BeepAU> is it possible to put an icon for the headphone volume in the system tray?
[07:07] <Sivik> farous, already done
[07:07] <farous> Sivik: so next time it will not be loaded
[07:07] <dragon> and americas army says Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[07:07] <farous> :)
[07:07] <azureal> or you can be fancy and create an alias "api" for sudo apt-get install
[07:07] <s0undt3ch> Sivik: Package mplayer is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:07] <JamesM> sivik, is your machine a desktop?
[07:07] <michaeljb2006> hi beagle won't index my home directory
[07:07] <Sivik> s0undt3ch, apt-cache search mplayer
[07:07] <Sivik> JamesM, no, laptop
[07:07] <JamesM> ahhh
[07:07] <Sivik> JamesM, if it was desktop, i would have bought a wireless card that worked in linxu
[07:07] <dragon> whats cedega?
[07:08] <azureal> google it
[07:08] <Sivik> dragon, its a program kinda like wine, just check the website it
[07:08] <ripple> but still not working.. even though im running ndiswrapper, the card no longer shows up in network, i cant enable it,eetc
[07:08] <JamesM> sivik, is your notebook using a pc card?
[07:08] <Sivik> dragon, www.transgaming.com
[07:08] <Sivik> JamesM: its plugged into the mother bored
[07:08] <farous> ripple: ndiswrapper -l
[07:08] <BeepAU> hey everyone, is it possible to put an icon for the headphone volume in the system tray?
[07:08] <s0undt3ch> Sivik: all I get is kmplayer
[07:08] <JamesM> sivik, does the computer have a pc card slot?
[07:08] <ripple> that usually says driver installed.. and hardware installed
[07:08] <ripple> lets see thoug
[07:08] <Sivik> JamesM, do you mean pcmcia?
[07:08] <agib> can anyone help me figure out why I can't access my server?  I just installed the LAMP installation and have apache running but I can't access it from a web browser on another computer -- I can ssh in
[07:08] <farous> ripple: iwconfig
[07:09] <JamesM> sivik, yes, that
[07:09] <ripple> yeah both check out
[07:09] <Sivik> JamesM, yes
[07:09] <dragon> im there looking at cedega siv!
[07:09] <Sivik> JamesM, but the wireless card if have for that never works either, its a netgear MA401
[07:09] <farous> so what is the symbolic name for your wireless card ripple
[07:09] <ripple> lo eth0 sit0 :: no wireless extensions
[07:09] <Sivik> dragon, ok
[07:10] <ripple> it was coming up as eth1
[07:10] <ripple> never as wlan0
[07:10] <Sivik> dragon, go to wikipedia.org and type in cedege, it will explain what it is
[07:10] <Sivik> ripple: thats how mine always comes up, eth1
[07:10] <babo> I have mail as a group user for a folder, and user as the owner of that folder. I want a third party ... user2 to be able to read that folder ...
[07:10] <JamesM> sivik, I would suggest a DWL-G630 from d-link.  Works right out of the box with dapper and breezy
[07:10] <babo> Can I add user2 to mail ?
[07:10] <ripple> shucks.. mine doesnt come up though?? hmm
[07:10] <farous> ripple: i think you need to install another driver for your card. Did you update your kernel lately
[07:10] <agib> apache anyone?
[07:10] <ripple> i just installed 6.0.2 last night
[07:10] <Sivik> JamesM, i don't have any money to buy anything right now, i'm a poor college student without a job
[07:11] <ripple> so it did all the updates today
[07:11] <Sivik> and d-link = crap
[07:11] <babo> anyone ?
[07:11] <farous> ripple: 6.0.2
[07:11] <ripple> 6.0.6 sorry
[07:11] <JamesM> sivik, not in linux.  it gets incredibly good reception :-)
[07:11] <Sivik> ok
[07:11] <Sivik> but i'm poor
[07:11] <farous> ripple: that is not a kernel ver i know of?
[07:12] <sethk> I've had similar results with d-link and other brands of network products
[07:12] <ripple> the dapper steelz
[07:12] <ripple> oh sorry.. im not sure then
[07:12] <Sivik> JamesM, and my pcmcia doesn't work when i plug them in
[07:12] <farous> ripple: when you install a new kernel ver you need to reinstall the ndiswrapper again
[07:12] <JamesM> hmmm
[07:12] <sethk> Sivik, do they work when you don't plug them in?
[07:12] <ripple> oh i see
[07:12] <farous> ripple: using module-assitant
[07:12] <Sivik> sethk: do what work if i don't plug them in?
[07:12] <farous> ripple: that is the main catch
[07:12] <ripple> i have done the ndis wrapper a few times and it says it has the latest version
[07:13] <BeepAU> hey everyone, is it possible to put an icon for the headphone volume in the system tray?
[07:13] <sethk> Sivik, the ones that' don't work when you plug them in
[07:13] <Sivik> sethk: why in the hell would they work when i don't plug them in
[07:13] <sethk> Sivik, I have no idea.  you said they don't work when you plug them in.  which indicates that they work in some other case.
[07:13] <farous> ripple: you have to install it module helper against the kernel you are running
[07:14] <ripple> how does one do that??
[07:14] <Sivik> sethk: they aren't regonized when i plug them in, i don't know if the pcmcia slot is set up right in linux
[07:14] <sethk> Sivik, apparently you meant simply that they don't work, and plugging them in was gratuitous
[07:14] <farous> ripple: so if you have a new kernel you have to generate and install the module package for ndiswrapper again
[07:14] <sethk> Sivik, do you see pcmcia startup messages in the dmesg output after booting?
[07:14] <farous> ripple: do you have the old kernel installed
[07:14] <ripple> don't know??
[07:14] <ripple> how do i check
[07:15] <sethk> Sivik, the pcmcia controller has to be detected and set up before any pcmcia devices will be detected
[07:15] <Sivik> ok, let me look
[07:15] <farous> aptitude search linux-image
[07:15] <ripple> farous: how do I know old or new kernel? I just downloaded the whole 6.06 last night so i assume its the newest, but do I need an older one?
[07:15] <Sivik> sethk: it says pcmcia: parent PCI bridge Memory window: 0xhexnumber - 0xhexnumber, does that mean it was detected and set up?
[07:16] <sethk> Sivik, yes
[07:16] <Sivik> ripple vi /proc/version
[07:16] <Sivik> sethk: then the card isn't being detected
[07:16] <Sivik> sethk: when i plug it in
[07:16] <sethk> Sivik, I would, then, run dmesg, plug in a pcmcia card, and run dmesg again, see if any new messages appear at the end of the dmesg output
[07:16] <ripple> Linux version 2.6.15-26-386 (buildd@terranova) (gcc version 4.0.3 (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5)) #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006
[07:16] <Sivik> ok
[07:16] <sethk> Sivik, you should see a few new lines after plugging in a card
[07:17] <Sivik> ripple: thats the newest stable version that comes with dapper
[07:17] <farous> ripple: ok we are talking of two different things did you mean 6.0.6 as the dapper release or did you mean the kernel you run which is normally linux-image-<something here> package
[07:17] <Sivik> sethk: cs: pcmcia_socket0: time out after reset is all it says new
[07:17] <Lapsus> Hello Everyone!
[07:17] <ripple> farous Linux version 2.6.15-26-386 (buildd@terranova) (gcc version 4.0.3 (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5)) #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006
[07:18] <farous> ripple: and you upgraded from breezy right
[07:18] <Sivik> farous, when i was running the ifconfig eth1 up, it was saying that eth1: link is not ready in my dmesg
[07:18] <ripple> and i meant dapper.. no upgrade.. just straight downloaded 6.0.6 last night
[07:18] <sethk> Sivik, hmm..  have you tried more than one pcmcia card?
[07:18] <farous> ripple: ok
[07:18] <deitarion> How exactly does 64-bit Ubuntu get flash anyway? (the flash that doesn't work properly in some places, not the option of running a 32-bit Firefox and 32-bit Flash)
[07:18] <Sivik> sethk: its the only one i own
[07:18] <Lapsus> I can't seem to get x running at all, can anyone give me a hand?
[07:18] <Sivik> deitarion, it doesn't currently
[07:19] <Sivik> Lapsus, what the issue?
[07:19] <Sivik> Lapsus, don't ask for help, just ask the question, and someone might help you
[07:19] <deitarion> Sivik: I guess my friend was running some 3rd-party package then. Probably a frozen Gnash build.
[07:19] <farous> ripple: do you remember how did you install the ndiswrapper
[07:19] <sethk> Sivik, if you can borrow one and plug it in, see what happens.  that message sounds like the card itself is dead, although of course I can't be sure, only playing the odds.
[07:20] <Sivik> deitarion, it isn't very easy, if possible at all to get flash working on a 64-bit os, you might want to use a 32-bit os until they get all of that stuff fixed
[07:20] <ripple> farous, a few diffferent ways.. searching NDIS in SYnaptic pakcage manager and then installing
[07:20] <wthww> hi um, i have a really weird problem. I have an Athlin XP 2400+ that wont boot th elive cd-- 6.06 .LTS or downloaded one. It gets thethe "Installing Some Drivers" and then freezes without output
[07:20] <michaeljb2006> beagle isn't indexing my files, when I type in beagle-status it does nothing, it indexes internet stuff, gaim conversations, e-mail but does not index files, i'm using xgl/compiz, does that interfere?
[07:20] <dragon> i dun wanna pay for cedega...
[07:20] <deitarion> Sivik: My friend says he now has no problems. (I walked him through setting up a 32-bit Firefox/Flash combo)
[07:20] <dragon> brb ok
[07:20] <sethk> I have a weird thing here.  I have some web sites, pointing firefox at them gives a garbled display.  However, if I reload the same url, it looks normal.  this is repeatable.
[07:21] <deitarion> As for me, I'm using Gentoo and I'm still stuck on 32-bit with a Celeron 2Ghz.
[07:21] <Sivik> sethk: that could be their end
[07:21] <sethk> Sivik, yes
[07:22] <sethk> Sivik, it very likely is.  still, why does it display correctly when I reload?  I'll try konqueror, see what happens.
[07:22] <ripple> farous, then  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=201902&highlight=wademosthenes
[07:22] <BeepAU> hey everyone, is it possible to put an icon for the headphone volume in the system tray?
[07:22] <dragon> im back
[07:22] <ripple> ferous, tried that one and a few other HOW TO's
[07:22] <sethk> Sivik, konqueror doesn't have the problem.  I'll try to capture the data.
[07:23] <Sivik> sethk: not sure, i don't use konqueror cause a. not in kde b. don't care for it
[07:23] <Sivik> sethk: looks too much like IE
[07:23] <JamesM> BeepAU, the tray is the one at the top?
[07:23] <Lapsus> Well, when I try to boot from the livecd, it dumps me to the console with messages about x being unable to start for some reason or other.
[07:23] <BeepAU> JamesM - yes
[07:23] <sethk> Sivik, I've found it to do the best rendering.  I like KDE
[07:23] <NiLz_> BeepAU: right click on the gnome panel at the bottom of the screen, select add to panel, and find volume control there
[07:23] <NiLz_> on the top of the screen that is
[07:23] <Lapsus> it's working fine on the other computers in the house, just not mine.
[07:23] <Wiseguy> is there a wireless gui for scanning for networks?
[07:23] <Sivik> sethk: well, i don't like kde, its slow, not smooth, and looks too much like vista
[07:24] <Sivik> Wiseguy, gnome or kde
[07:24] <Wiseguy> gnome
[07:24] <Sivik> Wiseguy, network-admin i think
[07:24] <sethk> Sivik, I don't find it to be substantially slower or faster than other desktops.  I've never used vista; I don't care what kde looks like, I only care if I like using it.
[07:24] <Wiseguy> i couldnt see anywhere to look for networks, only a place to type in the essid
[07:24] <farous> ripple: hmm try aptitude search ndiswrapper and paste it on the pastebin
[07:24] <Sivik> sethk: have you tried e16?
[07:25] <vaz> hello
[07:25] <ripple> farous: sorry what was that??
[07:25] <sethk> Sivik, no
[07:25] <farous> !pastebin > ripple
[07:25] <BeepAU> NiLz -- I want one for headphone, can I get that through those steps?
[07:25] <vaz> could someone help me with configuring bluetooth on dapper drake
[07:25] <dragon> should i get wine?
[07:25] <|thunder> I'd like to copy mp3's to my minidisc player. When I plug it into usb the unit says pc->md. and I get this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20045 in dmesg. nothing is mounted.
[07:25] <Sivik> dragon, wine for what?
[07:25] <dragon> for frostwire
[07:26] <dragon> then cedega for games?
[07:26] <|thunder> what can I do
[07:26] <Sivik> what is frostwire?
[07:26] <dragon> or cedega does it all?
[07:26] <NiLz_> BeepAU: volume control in general is not enough?
[07:26] <dragon> frostwire is the same as limewire (p2p network)
[07:26] <Sivik> cedega is mostly for games, i though you were trying to get american armies to work
[07:26] <ripple> farous:  not sure what you mean for me to do?? sorry
[07:26] <Hmmmm> Sivik: frostwire is a gnutella gui
[07:26] <Lapsus> could anyone give me a hint as to how to get x working? I've got 2 geforce 6600's in SLI, and x can't seem to figure them out...
[07:26] <dragon> i am
[07:26] <Sivik> what is gnutella?
[07:26] <dragon> but aparently i hafta pay for cedega
[07:27] <NiLz_> BeepAU: I guess you can choose which output to control volume for
[07:27] <BeepAU> NiLz -- well, i have to right click and go through the window to do it for headphone, I'd rather be able to do it quickly.
[07:27] <Hmmmm> Sivik: gnutella is a P2P network like napster/limewire ...
[07:27] <|thunder> Lapsus, paste your xorg.conf here. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[07:27] <Sivik> dragon: go to www.transgaming.com/portfolio and see if american armies works with it well, and there is always a torrent for it, and you don't have to pay for it
[07:27] <BeepAU> NiLz -- how do i choose which output?
[07:27] <vaz> lshw doesnt  show my bluetooth
[07:27] <farous> ripple: execute the command aptitude search ndiswrapper in a terminal
[07:27] <farous> ripple: then paste the result on the pastebin look at ubotu pm
[07:27] <vaz> but when I was using kubuntu it worked
[07:27] <farous> !pastebin > ripple
[07:27] <BeepAU> NiLz -- ahh, i see.
[07:27] <Lapsus> |thunder, can you tell me how to do it from console? That's all I've got on that comuter so fer -.-
[07:27] <Lapsus> far*
[07:28] <farous> !pastebin
[07:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:28] <BeepAU> NiLz -- thankyou. is it possible to change the icon?
[07:28] <ripple> haha.. ok.. i almost understand
[07:28] <azureal> sivik: american army, lol...
[07:28] <NiLz_> BeepAU: yes, should be
[07:28] <Sivik> azureal, what about it, i'm not trying to get it to work, i don't have it, nor do i like it
[07:28] <azureal> rather, america's army
[07:28] <NiLz_> BeepAU: right click on it and choose properties
[07:28] <ripple> ferous: v   ndiswrapper-modules-1.8         -
[07:28] <ripple> i   ndiswrapper-source              - Source for the ndiswrapper linux kernel moi   ndiswrapper-utils               - Userspace utilities for ndiswrapper
[07:28] <Sivik> azureal, so i really don't care what the name of it is
[07:28] <azureal> sivik: you just butchered it so badly
[07:29] <Sivik> azureal, oh well
[07:29] <|thunder> Lapsus, w3m is a console based web browser
[07:29] <|thunder> that may be a start
[07:29] <BeepAU> NiLz -- there is no properties, only preferences.
[07:29] <Sivik> Lapsus, so is epic4
[07:29] <|thunder> but I  have no idea how you'd paste text into the form though.
[07:29] <farous> ripple: ok.
[07:29] <ripple> !pastebin > ripple :: im not sure what that means
[07:29] <azureal> Sivik, it's a tragedy
[07:29] <farous> ripple: ok lets try sudo rmmod ndiswrapper
[07:29] <Lapsus> I'll try those ones.
[07:29] <ripple> sure
[07:30] <Lapsus> I hope I don't have to type it manually...
[07:30] <Sivik> azureal, oh well, i really don't care, i was just telling him to try looking at cedega for it
[07:30] <|thunder> no
[07:30] <KrisWood> How do I restart inetd without rebooting?
[07:30] <azureal> Sivik, if i recall correctly, you told him to do that half an hour ago =P
[07:30] <wthww> Ok, could i het some help?
[07:30] <ripple> farous: segmentation fault
[07:30] <BeepAU> NiLz -- do you know how i can change it?
[07:30] <OtavioRibeiro> azureal:/etc/init.d/inetd restart
[07:30] <|thunder> if thats the case save it somewhere windows can get to it or something.
[07:30] <azureal> ?!
[07:30] <Sivik> azureal, yeah, but then he asked something else about it, and i said try using cedega for it, and wine for frostwire if you were paying attention
[07:30] <torchie> Time to go figure out how to install flash
[07:30] <torchie> !
[07:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about ! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:30] <farous> ripple: that is not right
[07:30] <|thunder> or email ir with the mail command
[07:31] <KrisWood> OtavioRibeiro, I think that was for me?
[07:31] <NiLz_> BeepAU: dunno, try going through the preferences or smth
[07:31] <Lapsus> I don't have windows on it at the moment either ^^;
[07:31] <NiLz_> BeepAU: or google :)
[07:31] <jordanau> what is the advantage of abiword over oowriter?
[07:31] <|thunder> hrm, no mail
[07:31] <azureal> Sivik, oh, i was on and off; just came back when i saw that the same topic was being mentioned
[07:31] <OtavioRibeiro> KrisWood: sorry... yes... it's!
[07:31] <Sivik> jordanau, probably just perference
[07:31] <farous> ripple: have no idea.
[07:31] <BeepAU> NiLz -- ok, i'll look around. thanks.
[07:31] <ripple> hmm i did the "sudo rmmod ndiswrapper" and it output segmentation fault
[07:31] <KrisWood> hehe thanks
[07:31] <|thunder> sendmail,  thans it
[07:31] <Sivik> azureal, then maybe you shouldn't butt in about it
[07:31] <|thunder> *thats
[07:31] <ripple> hehe well thanks anyway for trying
[07:31] <farous> ripple: it should not do that :)
[07:31] <ripple> hmm
[07:32] <jrsims> hey hey! anyone use zsnes here?
[07:32] <jordanau> ripple, are you trying to set up ndiswrapper or bcm43xx-fwcutter?
[07:32] <Sivik> jrsims, i have in the past
[07:32] <azureal> Sivik, maybe you shouldn't, seeing as you know nothing about the game
[07:32] <KrisWood> thanks it worked :D
[07:32] <vaz> help pls
[07:32] <KrisWood> bye everyone!
[07:32] <dragon> were is the download?
[07:32] <ripple> ferous: i have tried both but now i am trying ndiswrapper
[07:32] <jrsims> well, I'm looking for people who have used it in the last few days
[07:32] <jrsims> because I have a problem
[07:32] <Lapsus> I can't really sit through a few hours installing windows just to paste a text file either...
[07:32] <Sivik> azureal, he asked if it would work on wine and i told him to try cedega, oh well, i mistyped it, lifes a bitch isn't it, if you don't like it, you can go to hell
[07:32] <userundefine> !language
[07:32] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:33] <ripple> ferous:  but it is possible i have them conflicting
[07:33] <jrsims> after the last ubuntu update, zsnes would not use the bilinear filter
[07:33] <Lapsus> looks like it won't start when I take off the SLi bridge either.
[07:33] <jamesM> has anybody successfuly installed Ubuntu to an external USB/firewire drive?
[07:33] <farous> ripple: right now ithis is not your prob i am trying to think why you had the seg fault
[07:33] <jrsims> hey, how well does wine run MS Office these days?
[07:33] <azureal> Sivik, i've noticed that you like to hear yourself talk
[07:33] <farous> ripple: do you have a prob with reinstalling
[07:33] <Sivik> jrsims, try crossover office
[07:34] <Sivik> azureal, whatever
[07:34] <jrsims> Sivik: isn't that a pay version?
[07:34] <ripple> no prob with that.. i just installed it today so not an issue
[07:34] <farous> ripple: and try the alternate disk now and check it for defects
[07:34] <Sivik> jrsims, you dont' "have" to pay for it
[07:34] <Lapsus> anyone?
[07:34] <dragon> tok who wants to help me?
[07:34] <farous> i asume you have a prob with the install disk
[07:34] <jordanau> ahhh i found the difference... abiword loads quickly
[07:34] <ripple> hmm.. i should have done the autocheck the CD when i installed, but i ordered a copy by snail mail too
[07:34] <farous> ripple: download the alternate cd and burn it at low speed.
[07:35] <ripple> is xubuntu, or one of the others important?? what is the deal?
[07:35] <agib> Does anyone have any idea why my apache server (installed as a unbuntu LAMP server) is not responding -- I can ssh in to the server though... has anyone else had an experience like this?
[07:35] <jamesM> I always burn my install disks at top speed and they all work fine
[07:35] <Silver_> Ok, I have an interesting question. Why are there no dungeons and dragons Utilities? Or are there and I can't find them?
[07:36] <Silver_> Disks and burners can affect the speed at which it is safe to burn though
[07:36] <farous> jamesM: when i installed breezy the cd speed was a factor
[07:36] <Lapsus> does ubuntu have any special requirements for using a pci-e graphics card?
[07:36] <azureal> by disks you mean media, i hope
[07:36] <farous> jamesM: slow speed just reduce poss of errors
[07:36] <jamesM> so me using OS X and Disk utility might have something to do with it?
[07:37] <ravenous> does anyone know what the sensor package is for the dell inspirons? i had it installed before and cant remember what its called
[07:37] <Silver_> It shouldn't as far as I can figure
[07:37] <farous> ravenous: did yo try aptitude search dell
[07:37] <Sivik> ravenous, or google it
[07:38] <Silver_> Though I don't know much about OSX's systems for burning
[07:38] <Silver_> So, no D&D utils?
[07:38] <Silver_> (I don't have the time right now to sit down and write decent ones)
[07:38] <cafuego> farous: The burn speed tends to be more of a factor when you use low quality media.
[07:38] <Sivik> Silver_, what kind of D&D utils?
[07:38] <ripple> ferous: what do you mean by alternate CD??
[07:38] <ripple> oh i see sorry
[07:38] <Silver_> Mostly anything, I am right now having an urge to generate a character
[07:39] <jamesM> OS X disk util is mostly just a free version or Roxio or whatever, but it can run disk checks and such on all removable media and HDDs
[07:39] <farous> cafuego: thanx for your input
[07:39] <Sivik> Silver_, have you tried heroforge?
[07:39] <Silver_> No, will look into it, thanks alot
[07:39] <cafuego> farous: ie: on my shitty media I can't use CDs unless I burn at 8x or less ;-)
[07:39] <Sivik> Silver_, yw
[07:39] <farous> cafuego: won't argue with you master :)
[07:39] <Sivik> !language
[07:39] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:39] <cafuego> Sivik: "shitty" ?
[07:40] <ripple> ferous: ubuntu-6.06-alternate-i386.iso is the one i want right??
[07:40] <farous> cafuego: for me never had prob frankly but it was a prob with some of my friends
[07:40] <jamesM> ripple, yes
[07:40] <farous> ripple: yap
[07:40] <Silver_> I searched the package repository for Dragon, Dungeon, D&D etc, as well as looking manuelly, but it's a hard mistress
[07:40] <Sivik> cafuego, if i can't say bitch, you can't say shitty
[07:40] <|thunder> I want to run win apps. i looked around but didnt find any repos with wine, winex, or dx9wine. what ever the differences are. anyone got any links?
[07:40] <cafuego> Sivik: You just said it, I rest my case.
[07:40] <casey_> hey guys, im having a problem with my printing when i first installed ubuntu all my printing worked fine (hp-1020) now when i try to print dmesg returns failed reading printer status
[07:40] <casey_> can anyone help
[07:40] <Sivik> whatever
[07:40] <Silver_> www.winehq.com has the setup for putting WINE onto Ubuntu
[07:40] <ripple> one more thing:: could i use the CD i used last time and just check for errors onit or should i redownload it??
[07:40] <vaz_> can someone direct me to a good BT source
[07:41] <vaz_> i mean how to
[07:41] <jamesM> the instructions on wineHQ work great
[07:41] <farous> ripple: got to go now good luck and am sure others can help from here
[07:41] <|thunder> thx silver. i think i was there. ill looks s'more
[07:41] <ripple> farous:  thank you
[07:41] <casey_> no one?
[07:41] <Silver_> it's under downloads Ubuntu
[07:41] <farous> cafuego: ripple had a seg fault trying to rmmod ndiswrapper any idea what might cause that
[07:41] <Silver_> Or was...
[07:41] <farous> ripple: your welcomed
[07:41] <azureal> lol
[07:42] <jamesM> |thunder, http://winehq.com/site/download-deb
[07:42] <Sivik> |thunder, did you uncomment any of the repos on the sources.list, you have to do that first
[07:42] <casey_>  im having a problem with my printing when i first installed ubuntu all my printing worked fine (hp-1020) now when i try to print dmesg returns failed reading printer status
[07:42] <userundefine> !repeat > casey_
[07:42] <|thunder> just universal
[07:42] <Sivik> |thunder, thats your problem
[07:42] <Silver_> I had to install a few printer tools for printers to work
[07:42] <Sivik> |thunder, you have to uncomment all thats there
[07:42] <Silver_> Though I forget which one it was that worked
[07:42] <ripple> farous:  last time i was using linux, wireless was not common, 1999:)
[07:42] <|thunder> ok,thanks Sivik
[07:43] <Sivik> |thunder, yw
[07:43] <casey_> my printing was fine though now it just doesn't work any more ive tryed everything i can think of :(
[07:43] <farous> ripple: i started using it at the same period too :)
[07:43] <azureal> casey_: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_1020 for now
[07:43] <farous> ripple: hated it at first but was forced to work with it
[07:43] <casey_> thank you
[07:43] <johnlittle> It was nothing like this in 1999 lol
[07:43] <jamesM> a tip to all who want wireless, I've found that the atheros chipsets work especially well
[07:44] <ripple> farous: cool, yesh.. lost track of it for a long time.. im 27 now.. i think i can get a handle on it again.. i hope
[07:44] <azureal> the things you can find w/ 5 sec google
[07:44] <NineTeen67Comet> Hi all .. anyone in here familiar with adding a second vid card via pci (not pci-e) .. I've got a Dual head AGP (running both screens xgl/xinerama) and would like to add this third one of not as a FULL desktop, but as another desktop at least .. help?
[07:44] <Lapsus> is there anyone that will help me get X running? I really want to get a GUI on linux instead of trying to learn to use the console on-the-fly...
[07:44] <Silver_> Sivik, do you know the package name for Heroforge? I've been playing with google and package manager and package search
[07:44] <Silver_> But I can't find it
[07:44] <jamesM> Lapsus, the install CDs usually use x automatically
[07:44] <casey_> thier is no /etc/hotplug
[07:44] <Sivik> Silver_, there isn't a package name for it, its a spreadsheet called heroforge
[07:44] <Silver_> I found a Windows and a Mac copy... but no Linux of any form
[07:44] <Silver_> ah... I see
[07:44] <NineTeen67Comet> Lapsus: Are you running something funny? Usually it'll run X great .. (Unless you tossed the ubuntu-server cd in there) ..
[07:45] <rendo> Where can I find the minimum requirements for Ubuntu 6.06?
[07:45] <Silver_> Ok, so when they say windows they mean simply "I think you need windows"
[07:45] <Sivik> Silver_, try http://www.kemenel.org/hf/index.php
[07:45] <Silver_> sweet, thanks
[07:45] <farous> ripple: i remember i made the admin go crazy. working on redhat work station. every time i had problem i used to reboot ;)
[07:45] <Sivik> Silver_, yw
[07:45] <jamesM> ahh, yeah, the server CD only runs console version
[07:45] <torchie> holycrap!
[07:45] <NineTeen67Comet> Silver_: They are using "windows" ad the generic for MS ..
[07:45] <torchie> I downloaded flash, installed it, and...
[07:45] <torchie> it worked!
[07:45] <cyphase> how do i run fdisk non-interactively?
[07:45] <nownot> hey i have a simple quesion what advantages does ubuntu have over fedora
[07:45] <jamesM> torchie, yes, it tends to be ultra holy
[07:45] <azureal> Lapsus, yea, i'm actually curious: how _did_ you arrive at your console-only situation?
[07:45] <Silver_> yeah, true...
[07:46] <Aberrant22> Torchie: What version?  Version 9?
[07:46] <Lapsus> I'm running the normal install CD, it works fine on all my other computers.
[07:46] <torchie> dunno
[07:46] <torchie> but
[07:46] <torchie> I installed it and it worked!
[07:46] <Aberrant22> hehe
[07:46] <NineTeen67Comet> nownot: it's all personal pref .. I found Ubuntu to fire up everything with out a fuss .. other than that it's personal pref .. I went from FC2-3 / Gentoo / here .. over a 5 year period ..
[07:46] <azureal> Lapsus, so it installed fine on the problematic one?
[07:46] <jamesM> lapsus, the same thing happened to me on an old machine I installed with an old CD, just try burning a new one at low speed
[07:46] <ripple> farous:  haha.. take the whole thing down for a few minutes..
[07:46] <Lapsus> I've got a pair of geforce 6600's in SLi, and Linux/X can't figure out what the heck to do, so I get dumped to a livecd console -.-
[07:46] <nownot> NineTeen67Comet thanks
[07:47] <NineTeen67Comet> n/p
[07:47] <Lapsus> nono, I'ts running off the CD on the problem one.
[07:47] <NineTeen67Comet> nownot: I also liked the single cd option
[07:47] <Silver_> A friend of mine was using Ubuntu with GeForces yesterday as well
[07:47] <jamesM> Lapsus, you're using a dapper install?
[07:47] <Silver_> I reccomend the nVidia package
[07:47] <nownot> NineTeen67Comet does it come preinstalled w/ apache mysql vsftpd or anything like that
[07:47] <Lapsus> I installed it on some other computers here, but mine wants to be ornery.
[07:47] <Silver_> they seem to make things hunky dory (sorry, urge to say that)
[07:48] <Silver_> hmm
[07:48] <azureal> i guess startx won't work here
[07:48] <Silver_> It wont install at all?
[07:48] <jamesM> use an alternate install CD
[07:48] <Lapsus> yes indeed, pressed cd. I've tried all 8 , plus the 64-bit version, and it still doesn't help.
[07:48] <NineTeen67Comet> nownot: the ubunutu-server edition comes with those default, the live-cd/install cd with gui does not, but can be added by simply .. sudo apt-get install apache mysql vsftpd samba etc etc etc ...
[07:48] <azureal> lol
[07:49] <Lapsus> startx gives me some errors and more console -.-
[07:49] <jamesM> Lapsus, make sure it's not just the media you're using and burn another to be sure
[07:49] <jamesM> or try using Xubuntu
[07:49] <ripple>  a seg fault trying to rmmod ndiswrapper any idea what might cause that
[07:49] <jamesM> uses Xfce instead of GNOME
[07:49] <jamesM> is any of this sticking on the wall?
[07:49] <azureal> jamesM: you don't think it might be a resolution issue?!
[07:49] <NineTeen67Comet> gotta get back to my bios .. back if I figure it out .. lol .. pci video is new to this dawg ..
[07:49] <Silver_> Well I gotta get out
[07:50] <Silver_> WillCya
[07:50] <Lapsus> jamesM, I know the media is fine, i did 3 installs with it before this tonight -.-
[07:50] <Silver_> Cya*
[07:50] <zcat[1] > my suggestion, burn the cd at 8x, some drives have trouble with CD's that were burned 'too fast'
[07:50] <jamesM> azureal, it could be, but I've had to many problems with bad media to ignore that possibility
[07:50] <wthww> ok, i havea thlon xp 2400+ system and it wont get past the loading bar screen
[07:50] <|thunder> wow, 76 packages to be installed to compile wine for amd64
[07:50] <azureal> yea, i was never good at tackling resolution or horiz/vert refresh rate probs
[07:50] <jamesM> lapsus, did those other machines have the same video cards?
[07:50] <kedarguru> hey quick question
[07:51] <ripple> aight thanks ill try that
[07:51] <wthww> it stops at loading hardware drives
[07:52] <Lapsus> jamesM, no. Unfortunately, I can't burn any cd's here either.
[07:52] <sethk> wthww, you can try turning off dma.  f1 (install cd, boot prompt) will show you how
[07:52] <Lapsus> but what are the chances of getting 9 bad discs?
[07:52] <azureal> i dont think it's the media
[07:52] <sethk> Lapsus, close to zero
[07:52] <jamesM> i accidently unplugged my router
[07:53] <sethk> Lapsus, unless you have a bad cd burner
[07:53] <wthww> sethk cool.
[07:53] <Lapsus> exactly my thoughts.
[07:53] <azureal> i remember reading about people who had resolution problems and edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:53] <Lapsus> they are pressed discs sethk.
[07:53] <kedarguru> hey when I click on the date under the time, it opens up evolution to the day before
[07:53] <kedarguru> why is that?
[07:53] <zcat[1] > !res
[07:53] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:53] <greddy> !socks
[07:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about socks - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:53] <greddy> !proxy
[07:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about proxy - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:53] <azureal> concerning the Device and Monitor sections
[07:53] <wthww> sethk: i left it on for a while just stiiing here and it gots past it,,, wweird
[07:53] <jamesM> try removing any dedicated graphics cards
[07:53] <Lapsus> how can it be a resolution problem if x doesn't get that far?
[07:53] <ripple> evolution wont recieve gmail.. how come?
[07:54] <kedarguru> works for me
[07:54] <sethk> Lapsus, are all the errors in the same machine?  Could be the cd drive has a problem?
[07:54] <kedarguru> I use gmail
[07:54] <DrAk0> anyone having problem with ruby gem mysql ?
[07:54] <sethk> wthww, that's not totally weird.  with some chipsets there is a delay in returning the status that says "nothing there"
[07:54] <ripple> hmm. i got everything set right.. doesn't recieve.. ahaha sorry.. noob brain rush.. it's my router
[07:54] <sethk> wthww, sometimes in the BIOS you have a setting, fail quickly or fail slowly and do a more thorough check
[07:54] <ripple> port 995
[07:54] <jamesM> lapsus, remove the HDD from your problem machine and pop it into a good one and install from there
[07:54] <Lapsus> setk, I thought of that, I moved my drive to another computer and it started up without issue.
[07:55] <sethk> Lapsus, that's pretty definitive, then
[07:55] <Lapsus> jamesM, I can't install without x.
[07:55] <sethk> Lapsus, once you've proved out all the parts but one ...
[07:55] <azureal> lapsus: it could also be horiz + vert refresh rates for your monitor...i know i had this problem in a debian install attempt
[07:55] <jamesM> lapsus, it actually would be a good idea to try another monitor
[07:55] <Lapsus> azureal, could you elaborate a little?
[07:56] <azureal> try what jamesM is saying--good idea =)
[07:56] <sethk> Lapsus, unless it has tried to start the X server, the screen isn't really the issue
[07:56] <jamesM> or remove any dedicated graphics cards, that was the problem on my friends super-mega-uber gaming machine gone bad
[07:56] <azureal> it's actually on this site  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:56] <Lapsus> well, let me see if I can pick out the bits that look important and write them down from the errors at boot.
[07:57] <azureal> i didnt expect it to be, but.. all monitors have an acceptable vertical and horizontal refresh rate
[07:57] <Lapsus> jamesM, then how will I see the output?
[07:57] <azureal> lapsus: are you familiar w/ the vi editor?
[07:57] <jamesM> lapsus, your motherboard had onboard (integrated) graphics, yes?
[07:58] <ripple> which is better ndiswrapper or the bcmwl5??
[07:58] <Lapsus> azureal, no. not at all. I'd like to be though ^^;
[07:58] <ripple> or is it one works and the other doesnt thing
[07:58] <Lapsus> jamesM, No.
[07:58] <azureal> oh, actually nano might be easier for you
[08:00] <azureal> so in the site twice mentioned already, under 'undetected monitor specs' , follow the guide a bit to see if you have any information regarding your horiz sync and vert refresh rates
[08:00] <jamesM> lapsus, try using an older version of Ubuntu...I'm not quite sure how this would help, but because the older versions aren't live and have a simple installer that might help
[08:00] <Lapsus> who?
[08:01] <azureal> who?
[08:01] <Aberrant22> lapsus: or use the alternate install disc
[08:01] <jamesM> qui?
[08:01] <azureal> don't you guys think a reinstall is the last resort?!
[08:01] <Lapsus> X is giving me a 'no screens found' message
[08:02] <jamesM> azureal, as long as nothing valuable is on the HDD, then no, I think it's first resort
[08:02] <Lapsus> Why would installing help if it can't even go from live?
[08:02] <azureal> and the possibility of a solution in /etc/X11/xorg.conf !?
[08:02] <torchie> hmm
[08:02] <agib> could someone please help?  I can ssh into my ubuntu LAMP server but I can't ping it or access the apache server
[08:03] <torchie> is there anything in particular that I need to do in order to watch youtube videos?
[08:03] <DanaG> Oh, the LiveCD does have an old-style "OEM install"
[08:03] <azureal> lol, i actually did forget that you dont have a system installed yet =P
[08:03] <|thunder> you should all do like me. mount your home dir on another partition. formatting is no prob. you still have your files and settings.
[08:03] <jamesM> trying random serial numbers/ideas/girlfriends has always seemed to work for me?  maybe that
[08:03] <jamesM> would be it
[08:03] <torchie> anybody else had problems with youtube videos?
[08:03] <Lapsus> it's a brand new computer, so there's nothing on it.
[08:04] <|thunder> torchie, yep. none for me
[08:04] <azureal> i'm not sure if you can write to files like xorg.conf on a livecd...anyone?
[08:04] <torchie> odd
[08:04] <BeepAU> how do i change the icon of the volume control?
[08:04] <|thunder> i guess there is a way to hack 32bit firefox and flash to install and run though
[08:04] <torchie> I just installed flash and nothing happens when I try to watch a youtube video
[08:04] <jamesM> azureal, I think you can
[08:04] <cafuego> azureal: You can, but the changes won't be saved.
[08:04] <jamesM> i have nothing to try it on, though
[08:04] <|thunder> overwrite the icon in /usr/share/images/icons or something
[08:05] <jamesM> Lapsus, would you happen to have another monitor around?
[08:05] <BeepAU> |thunder - what if I wanna use one icon for the master and one for the headphone?
[08:06] <Lapsus> jamesM, I've got about 45 in here, but I can't really move them.
[08:06] <|thunder> dont know
[08:06] <DanaG> YouTube is broken for me too.
[08:06] <azureal> lol
[08:06] <azureal> seriously, try out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto  lapsus
[08:06] <torchie> I wanna watch youtube ;-;
[08:07] <|thunder> ls -la
[08:07] <jamesM> yeah, lapsus, that would be your best bet
[08:07] <azureal> starting w/ the Undetected Monitor Specs section
[08:07] <jamesM> i'm out of random ideas and semi educated guesses
[08:07] <ripple> what is a seg fault??
[08:08] <Lapsus> okay. I'll give it a shot. If it doesn't work I'll be in here talking to you all again tomorrow.
[08:08] <Lapsus> quit oh dear.
[08:08] <azureal> lol
[08:09] <azureal> for the record: that was the third time that site was mentioned =P
[08:09] <sethk> ripple, a segmentation violation.   usually means a garbage address
[08:09] <jamesM> azureal, fourth i could swear
[08:10] <BeepAU> can anyone help me, how do i change the icon of the volume control?
[08:10] <jamesM> has anyone else found it difficult to switch from OS X to linux?
[08:10] <timalot> why?
[08:10] <jamesM> or from DOS to shells?
[08:10] <azureal> jamesM: hehe...i was thinking about all those kinds of changes and possible problems, when someone brought up !res, which just happened to contain the site with everything i've been talking about =)
[08:10] <sb> because of those confusing extra mouse buttons?
[08:11] <azureal> hahahahah
[08:11] <SkullWalker> sb, :P
[08:11] <SkullWalker> hah
[08:11] <jamesM> lol, azureal
[08:11] <azureal> no offense, but imo osx well...sucks
[08:11] <torchie> aaaaaargh
[08:11] <jamesM> sb, i meant more of the window management
[08:11] <torchie> I don't get this
[08:11] <torchie> I installed flash and youtube doesn't work!
[08:11] <SkullWalker> I'm having trouble writing to my tape drive...I keep getting this error when using tar: tarr: /dev/st0: Cannot write: Input/output error
[08:11] <fl4kk3r> torchie: can you be more specific?
[08:12] <SkullWalker> The tape is writable, the status looks okay and as far as I know, the drive works
[08:12] <jamesM> azureal, I really like OS X, but I feel locked in
[08:12] <torchie> if I were to try to watch a video on youtube, it just appears black and nothing happens
[08:12] <azureal> you can always just alt-tab your way around, no?
[08:12] <ripple> does seg fault mean i should reinstall from scratch?
[08:12] <jamesM> i wish. it's cmd-tab
[08:12] <fl4kk3r> torchie: youi're using firefox?
[08:12] <torchie> yes
[08:12] <ripple> !pastebin what does !pastebin do??
[08:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about pastebin what does !pastebin do?? - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:13] <azureal> you're using a mac keyboard...?
[08:13] <AAA> !pastebin
[08:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:13] <fl4kk3r> torchie: type about:config in the address bar
[08:13] <azureal> btw, i prefer pastebin.ca
[08:13] <jamesM> yes
[08:13] <timalot> if i had an intel mac id install ubuntu
[08:13] <torchie> alright
[08:13] <azureal> sigh
[08:13] <torchie> done
[08:13] <fl4kk3r> what does it say?
[08:13] <jamesM> intel macs scream with ubuntu
[08:13] <SkullWalker> I like the nopaste at rafb
[08:13] <haasteem> hi, does anyone by any chance run arcexplorer?
[08:13] <torchie> there are lots of preference names and such here
[08:13] <fl4kk3r> sorry
[08:13] <fl4kk3r> i mean
[08:14] <fl4kk3r> about:plugins
[08:14] <fl4kk3r> hhehehe
[08:14] <azureal> jamesM: what you could do is change everything to make it look like unix
[08:14] <torchie> lol
[08:14] <fl4kk3r> torchie :what does it say under the macromedia entry?
[08:14] <torchie> it says flash is enabled and so is 'futuresplash player'
[08:15] <NineTeen67Comet> grrr .. anyone got the secret to running triple monitors? Two via AGP and one (capable of 2) running off plain pci (not pci-e).. I've got it to where it will go through the boot on the pci, then when X starts it only uses the two agp heads (dual head nVidia on both the agp and pci) ..
[08:15] <CheetahMk2> What are the temporary data directories in Ubuntu? I.E. which ones are saft to delete?
[08:15] <fl4kk3r> torchie: is there an entry called shockwave flash?
[08:15] <torchie> yes
[08:15] <azureal> torchie: so you installed flashplayer... but did you create the correct .so symbolic link in your firefox plugins?
[08:16] <fl4kk3r> torchie: and also whast the version number?
[08:16] <torchie> 7.0
 torchie: so you installed flashplayer... but did you create the correct .so symbolic link in your firefox plugins?   <-- *cue head implosion*
[08:16] <AAA> CheetahMk2  generall in /tmp however you have a cron job that comes around and cleans it up for you, if you install alot of pkg's then your /var/cache/apt/archive may be very large your can run apt-get clean to fix that
[08:16] <BeepAU> i accidently removed the kmess tray icon, how do i put it back?
[08:17] <CheetahMk2> that's exactly what I was looking for
[08:17] <jamesM> torchie, how exactly did you install flashplayer?
[08:17] <ripple> i still don't understand what pastebin does or is??
[08:17] <azureal> torchie: one sec
[08:17] <CheetahMk2> thanks
[08:17] <torchie> I downloaded it from the adobe site
[08:17] <jamesM> give me a URL if you please
[08:17] <jordanau> !pastebin > riiple
[08:17] <NineTeen67Comet> ripple: pastebin is where you paste all your screens of .config files so it doesn't flood here ..
[08:17] <jordanau> !pastebin > ripple
[08:18] <ripple> oh.. rock on.. thank
[08:18] <BeepAU> can anyone help me, i accidently removed the kmess tray icon, how do i put it back?
[08:18] <ripple> or large text there too right??
[08:18] <jamesM> BeepAU, what's kMess again?
[08:18] <fl4kk3r> torchie: have you tried using easy ubuntu
[08:18] <ripple> nevermind
[08:18] <jordanau> BeepAU, what does AU stand for?
[08:18] <BeepAU> JamesM -- msn messenger clone
[08:18] <torchie> no
[08:19] <jamesM> find it in your machine and move it back
[08:19] <BeepAU> jordanau - australia
[08:19] <azureal> torchie: go to your flashplayer directory, and also what is the path for firefox? (default is /usr/lib/firefox)
[08:20] <StreetSmart> Hey guys, after uninstalling ubuntu and deleting the partition, how do i get it so my system boots rigt into windows?
[08:20] <ripple> Jordanau: sorry for sillyness, but how do you do the red text thing... am i the only one who sees it?
[08:20] <torchie> yeah, it's /usr/lib/firefox
[08:20] <fl4kk3r> torchi: torchie: go into the plugins folder
[08:20] <jamesM> ripple, it's if a message is directed at you
[08:20] <azureal> and is there a flashplayer.xpt and libflashplayer.so file in your flashplayer directory?
[08:20] <tenzing_> what is the code name for ubuntu version 5.10
[08:20] <CheetahMk2> Breezy?
[08:20] <ardchoille> tenzing_: Breezy Badger
[08:20] <SkullWalker> I'm having trouble writing to my tape drive...I keep getting this error when using tar: tarr: /dev/st0: Cannot write: Input/output error     <--- anyone know what that is? the tape is writable.
[08:20] <jamesM> ripple, just do it by putting their userID before your message
[08:21] <torchie> flashplayer directory?
[08:21] <torchie> err
[08:21] <torchie> oh
[08:21] <ripple> jamesM: haa thanks,, noobgasm
[08:21] <azureal> yea, where did you install flashplayer
[08:21] <SkullWalker> mt -f /dev/sd0 status look good except that it says the density code is 0x27 (unknown), which I'm not sure is a problem
[08:21] <tenzing_> ardchoille, ok .... and what version is Dapper
[08:21] <jamesM> np, ripple
[08:21] <torchie> /usr/lib/firefox/plugins I'm guessing
[08:21] <ardchoille> tenzing_: 6.06LTS
[08:21] <ripple> jamesM np?
[08:22] <jamesM> ripple, that means no problem
[08:22] <jrsims> I LOVE UBUNTU! JUST SO YOUS ALL KNOWS!
[08:22] <ripple> thank
[08:22] <BeepAU> !kmess
[08:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about kmess - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:22] <azureal> torchie: do you have a /usr/lib/flash....   directory?
[08:22] <azureal> starts w/ flash
[08:22] <tenzing_> ardchoille, what gnome version does Dapper use?
[08:22] <Tsukino> 2.14.3
[08:22] <fl4kk3r> torchie: its flashplugin-nonfree
[08:22] <myk> does anyone here know if it's possible to create a menu on a usb device used to boot a pc that will allow you to choose which HD should be used to boot from? (ie, hd1=linux, hd2=no-os, hd3=windows)
[08:22] <ardchoille> tenzing_: 2.14
[08:22] <torchie> nope, there's no usr/lib/flash/ directory
[08:23] <CheetahMk2> Shoot. Well, somehow from having 100mb free, I am down to 0. Anyone know how I can free up some space? I used to haev 150mb free on a 2gb drive
[08:23] <fl4kk3r> torchie: its flashplugin-nonfree
[08:23] <azureal> torchie: /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree
[08:23] <wthww_> dang it ubuntu hates me now
[08:23] <ardchoille> !info kmess
[08:23] <ubotu> kmess: MSN Messenger for KDE. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.4.2-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 1053 kB, installed size 2624 kB
[08:23] <wthww_> :'(
[08:23] <ripple> jamesM does seg fault mean i should reinstall??
[08:23] <torchie> it doesn't look like that directory's there either
[08:23] <fl4kk3r> torchie: then you probably didn't install flash properly
[08:23] <torchie> damn
[08:23] <azureal> i 2nd that
[08:23] <fl4kk3r> torchie: try thishttp://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html
[08:23] <torchie> shit neverworks
[08:24] <tenzing_> ardchoille, how is the multimedia support in ubuntu?
[08:24] <jamesM> ripple, I have no clue
[08:25] <azureal> torchie: if you have x86 architecture, try downloading from here (and follow their directions too) http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&P2_Platform=Linux&P3_Browser_Version=Netscape4
[08:25] <SkullWalker> ripple, segfault with what program
[08:25] <danielmarsom> hi, just wanitng some support with frostwire.
[08:25] <jamesM> !info segfault
[08:25] <ubotu> Package segfault does not exist in dapper
[08:26] <danielmarsom> i get an error saying
[08:26] <jamesM> ahhh, so that
[08:26] <ardchoille> tenzing_: I play mp3 and ogg files, watch DVD movies, view flash videos and listen to music cd's. Ubuntu is awesome :)
[08:26] <SkullWalker> a segfault is when a program tries to access memory it shouldn't have access to
[08:26] <jamesM> !info Wine
[08:26] <SkullWalker> for whatever reason
[08:26] <ubotu> Package Wine does not exist in dapper
[08:26] <jamesM> III
[08:26] <azureal> !wine
[08:26] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:26] <nalpha> guys how to know the file size of folder what do i must type??
[08:26] <danielmarsom> : command not found:
[08:26] <danielmarsom> : No such file or directory
[08:26] <danielmarsom> : command not found:
[08:26] <danielmarsom> : command not found3:
[08:26] <danielmarsom> 'unFrost.sh: line 24: syntax error near unexpected token `
[08:26] <jamesM> niiice
[08:26] <danielmarsom> 'unFrost.sh: line 24: `look_for_java()
[08:26] <BeepAU> can anyone help me, i accidently removed the kmess tray icon, how do i put it back?
[08:26] <azureal> yo daniel.. pastebin
[08:26] <MistaED> hey just asking again from yesterday, could someone tell me how one can modprobe something and set options to a specific device? i have two tv tuner cards which use the same module but need two separate options set for them and i have no idea on how to do this, or to set the /etc/modprobe.d/ like this
[08:27] <ardchoille> !paste > danielmarsom
[08:27] <danielmarsom> yes that is pasted
[08:27] <timalot> nalpha: du -ck <dirname i want the size of>
[08:27] <MistaED> (however autodetection sets up separate options to bttv0 and bttv1, but with bttv1 it doesn't detect the right options)
[08:27] <azureal> danielmarsom, so...er...how did this happen
[08:27] <tenzing_> ardchoille, ok .. but does this applications come in the default install, i mean i i have to install it on a computer that does not have internet connection
[08:27] <nalpha> ok thanx alot
[08:28] <BeepAU> can anyone help me, i accidently removed the kmess tray icon, how do i put it back?
[08:28] <azureal> oh, frostwire...nvm..i have no clue
[08:28] <ripple> skullwalker trying to get WIFI BCM4306
[08:28] <danielmarsom> i ran it in terminal, because nothing came up when i ran it thru the menu
[08:28] <MistaED> for instance, 'options bttv card=number tuner=number' will set it up for both bttv0 and bttv1, but that locks up linux and i only want them set for bttv1
[08:28] <fl4kk3r> daniel marsom: have you made sure that java is set to run jre2?
[08:29] <danielmarsom> how do I do that?
[08:29] <fl4kk3r> danielmarsom: but first, are you sure you have java installeD?
[08:29] <ardchoille> tenzing_: Any distro is going to require some customisation. You'd be better off getting an internet connection on it.
[08:29] <danielmarsom> nope.
[08:29] <azureal> lol
[08:29] <ripple> skullwalker ndiswrapper is not working for me, and someone was trying to help. that was as far as we got, to seg fault
[08:29] <danielmarsom> i think i know now..
[08:29] <SkullWalker> oh
[08:29] <fl4kk3r> danielmarsom: type this sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin
[08:29] <SkullWalker> ripple, well you shouldn't have to reinstall ubuntu because of a segfault with some program
[08:30] <SkullWalker> ripple, but I don't know what your problem is, sorry. I've never worked with wireless on linux
[08:30] <danielmarsom> yup i just got that off the forums as well.
[08:30] <ripple> i see.
[08:30] <danielmarsom> thanks, heaps, you guys rock.
[08:30] <ripple> skullwalker it's cool
[08:30] <fl4kk3r> danielmarsom did you do this? sudo update-alternatives --config java
[08:30] <azureal> i really need a better terminal font
[08:30] <jamesM> wait, ripple, what's your issue you're having?
[08:31] <DanaG> argh, broken YouTube.
[08:31] <ripple> jamesM , i can't get my WIFI card to regoc, in network, right now
[08:31] <jamesM> ripple, do you know what chipset it is?
[08:31] <ripple> jamesm yeah its BCM4306 Broadcom
[08:32] <yozBuntu> is it USB
[08:32] <yozBuntu> the wifi
[08:32] <ripple> lots of HOW TO's, little help
[08:32] <ripple> internal
[08:32] <jamesM> hmmm....you've tried the bcm43xx firmware thread?
[08:32] <cafuego> ripple: That will work fine with the bcm43xx driver + firmware.
[08:32] <ripple> infernal
[08:32] <ripple> treid that
[08:32] <cafuego> ripple: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net -> fetch the firmware package; install it; enjoy.
[08:32] <ripple> cafuego. i think i exausted that line
[08:32] <BeepAU> can anyone help me, i accidently removed the kmess tray icon, how do i put it back?
[08:32] <jamesM> yeah, ripple, that should work
[08:32] <yozBuntu> ripple what does dmesg tell you
[08:32] <yozBuntu> about the card
[08:33] <yozBuntu> have you looked
[08:33] <ripple> i did the graphical firmware installer with .inf and .sys...
[08:33] <cafuego> ripple: Works fine here on x86 and ppc.
[08:33] <jamesM> ripple, this is a PCI card on desktop?
[08:33] <cafuego> ripple: That's ndiswrapepr, which needs bcm43xx to be *disabled*
[08:33] <ripple> cafuego,, ok thanks for the lead.. ill give it a shot
[08:33] <ripple> jamesM, internal , notebook HP
[08:34] <yozBuntu> would that be mini PCI
[08:34] <jamesM> ripple, do you have money?
[08:34] <yozBuntu> his internal wifi
[08:34] <cornelius[cz] > hello
[08:34] <cafuego> jamesM: He doesn't need money, the 4306 works absolutely fine with the free driver.
[08:34] <ripple> jamesM how come?
[08:34] <jamesM> cafuego, yes, but if he has the option to avoid all this
[08:35] <ripple> cafuego, what am i looking for on your site
[08:35] <jamesM> ripple, I reccomend the DWL-G630 from d-link
[08:35] <jamesM> no effort necessary
[08:35] <FloK> there is no default group "users" for normal user i wonder?
[08:35] <ripple> jamesM is that just an add on card??
[08:35] <jamesM> ripple, yes
[08:36] <ripple> jamesM i would just go back to windows for wireless, and use dual boot
[08:36] <FloK> i try to usermod -G oldgroup1,og2,og3,newgroup but newgroup isnt added to that user;
[08:36] <jamesM> ripple: In that case, I
[08:36] <ripple> cafuego, what part of your page am i looking for
[08:36] <jamesM> would try to get the bcm43xx working
[08:36] <cafuego> ripple: Hold on
[08:36] <ripple> jamesM i just don't wanna use windoze if at all possible
[08:36] <duckdown> Hey all..  I was messing around with some ipv6 tunnel settings, (configuring devices sit0 and sit1 and stuff) and I've decided on another configuration.  However I want to completely clear the rules I've set from devices sit0 and sit1 to ensure a completely fresh start  (as of right now I still get connectivity from the tunnel)  How can I wipe the device settings?  I set a bunch of flags using ifconfig
[08:37] <ripple> thanks
[08:37] <duckdown> already and route
[08:37] <cafuego> ripple: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/pool/dapper-cafuego/bcm43xx/bcm43xx-firmware_1.2-0ubuntu1_all.deb
[08:37] <david> Hello everybody!  Something is wrong with gnome on my computer.  When it boots, X stays that reddish hue that signifies gnome is about to do something.  dmesg says that my cd drive failed with opcode 0xec, and the Xserver's logs do not indicate any problems.  I can even use a terminal to run synergy, which depends on the xserver
[08:37] <cafuego> ripple: Fetch that, install it, disable ndiswrapper, reboot.
[08:37] <ripple> cafuego, sure man
[08:37] <jamesM> ripple, i understand, disable ndiswrapper
[08:37] <AAA> duckdown  ifconfig sit0 down ?
[08:38] <ripple> cafuego, how do i disable ndsiswrapper??
[08:38] <duckdown> AAA but then once I ifconfig sit0 up again, the old settings remain
[08:38] <duckdown> AAA I want to wipe all of the rules and settings
[08:38] <AAA> duckdown  check /etc/network/interfaces
[08:38] <duckdown> hmmm ok thanks
[08:38] <jamesM> ripple, this thread helped me loads as well http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174&highlight=bcm43xx
[08:38] <cafuego> ripple: ndiswrapper -e <drivername>
[08:39] <cafuego> You get the driver name from ndiswrapper -l
[08:39] <AAA> duckdown  or whatever software you were using to tunnel with? or bring it up specifically how you want to use it ifconfig sit0 blah... up
[08:39] <ripple> cool
[08:39] <jamesM> it got my powerbook working on wifi
[08:39] <ripple> hmm this is HP, but prolly same chipset
[08:40] <ripple> i have done the bcm43xxx driver and firmcutter before though
[08:40] <jamesM> ripple, the thread and firmware applies to almost all broadcom chipsets
[08:40] <apeman2020> hi
[08:40] <Awesome-o2000> I pulled out my old network card and replaced it with a new one, how do I make the new connection into eth0 instead of eth1?
[08:40] <AAA> Awesome-o2000  edit your /etc/network/interfaces and change the 1 to a 0
[08:41] <jamesM> ripple, did you try it before or after you installed ndiswrapper
[08:41] <ripple> jamesm, im on it
[08:41] <ripple> i think it was the first on i tried
[08:41] <AAA> Awesome-o2000  then ifconfig eth1 down; ifconfig eth0 up
[08:41] <apeman2020> Does anyone have experience setting up mail servers, specifically CYRUS
[08:42] <ripple> jamesM permission denied on all those wrapper files
[08:42] <jamesM> are you typing "sudo" before all your commands?
[08:43] <ripple> oops
[08:43] <ripple> or noops
[08:43] <jamesM> ripple: yeah, you have to do this as root
[08:43] <Awesome-o2000> k
[08:43] <ripple> hehe
[08:43] <ripple> ok done that part
[08:44] <jamesM> everything disabled?
[08:44] <AAA> d00d make up your mind
[08:44] <ripple> now for this bcm43XXX and firmware again
[08:44] <jamesM> yeah, lol
[08:44] <ripple> everthing disabled
[08:45] <david_g> could someone help me figure out what is wrong with my display and fix it?
[08:45] <david_g> I was trying to register
[08:45] <AAA> then register it with nickserv and be done with it
[08:45] <ripple> hehe
[08:45] <david_g> I was
[08:45] <AAA> hehe
[08:45] <david_g> they were all taken
[08:45] <david_g> hehe
[08:45] <ripple> im back
[08:45] <jamesM> ok, so you got the firmware, ripple?
[08:46] <david_g> anyway...my login screen appears fine if i restart X
[08:46] <david_g> but when I log in, the nothing happens
[08:46] <ripple> jamesM thanks im workin on that firmware page you sent to me
[08:46] <tehuti> does anyone know what to do with a bunch of dwp files that came out of a .tar I downloaded? It's supposed to be a movie.
[08:46] <david_g> except that the login screen goes away
[08:46] <azureal> hehe; i learned the hard way that switch order matters
[08:46] <azureal> -xfj  !=  -xjf
[08:46] <ripple> JamesM i have seen this one before, but maybe things were conficting before
[08:47] <jamesM> maybe, it's been revised recently i think
[08:47] <ripple> is there anything else i should do before firmcutter? like reboot?
[08:47] <jamesM> not that I know of
[08:47] <mistform> hola
[08:47] <Awesome-o2000> hmm
[08:47] <Awesome-o2000> that didnt work at all
[08:47] <Awesome-o2000> eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[08:47] <Awesome-o2000> that didnt work at all!!
[08:48] <jamesM> ripple, it reccomends doing a clean install, but if you have data on there don't do it
[08:48] <Awesome-o2000> AAA it says eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[08:48] <ripple> right now, should my WIFI card show up in the system>>admin>>network
[08:48] <ripple> i just did this install today!
[08:48] <tehuti> anyone download movies from IRC? what do I do with dwp files extracted from a .tar?
[08:48] <mistform> iwconfig
[08:48] <FantasticFoo> i can't seem to get .wmv files to play in firefox, even after following instructions provided on ubuntu.com
[08:48] <AAA> Awesome-o2000  is it the same kind of card? and you are using sudo? what does sudo ifconfig -a say?
[08:48] <jamesM> ripple, yes your card should show up and if it's a fresh install, then don't worry
[08:49] <FantasticFoo> can anybody help?
[08:49] <david_g> what is dpkg?  why did I have to run dpkg --configure -a when apt-get update failed?
[08:49] <ripple> jamesM ok
[08:49] <yozBuntu> i had to manually add 'wlan0' to /etc/network/interfaces for one wifi card i got working (USB)
[08:49] <david_g> and why does dpkg take so long to run?
[08:49] <Awesome-o2000> AAA it gives me info for eth1
[08:49] <apeman2020> !dpkg
[08:49] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[08:49] <jamesM> ripple, run an iwconfig for me and tell me what comes up
[08:50] <ripple> jamesM it has 3 things lo, eth0, and sit0
[08:50] <ripple> all say no wirelesss
[08:50] <jamesM> no wireless extentions?
[08:50] <cafuego> ripple: Is the 'bcm43xx' driver loaded?
[08:50] <AAA> Awesome-o2000  but nothing for eth0 ? hrm. so change your interfaces file back to eth1?  that is odd, you only have one NIC in the box?
[08:50] <cafuego> ripple: 'lsmod | grep bcm'
[08:51] <Awesome-o2000> I switched - hmm
[08:51] <dragon> hi
[08:51] <jamesM> cafuego: isn't the DRIVER preloaded?
[08:51] <cafuego> jamesM: That is what we're checking.
[08:51] <dragon> i need help with americas army
[08:51] <ripple> cafuego i ran that line you gave me but no changes
[08:51] <jamesM> ahhh, i see
[08:51] <cafuego> ripple: Ok, 'sudo modprobe bcm43xx'
[08:52] <ripple> cafuego, access point: invalid
[08:52] <ripple> but now there is wlan0
[08:53] <jamesM> wlan0 is a good sign
[08:53] <jamesM> that's your wireless card
[08:53] <ripple> jamesM word
[08:53] <ripple> yeah, just a sec
[08:53] <dragon> wen i open americas army it says " Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[08:53] <dragon> "
[08:54] <ripple> haha.. check this.. when the sccreen greys and you have to enter your pasword...
[08:54] <pipipi> Hey guys, I am  having some difficulties in getting sound to work with Wine on my laptop.
[08:54] <jamesM> ripple: what?
[08:54] <ripple> im so used to windows that i freak like a kernel panic.. blue screen
[08:54] <jamesM> ahhh, i see
[08:54] <ripple> jamesM haha
[08:54] <pipipi> I've read over the forums that you must get libjack installed, and I have done so and I still receive some errors.  Anybody ever experiences this issue?
[08:54] <ripple> just instinct
[08:54] <jamesM> kind of like me and FreeBSD kernel crashing
[08:54] <cafuego> ripple: If you don't use ndiswrapper, you're unlikely to encounter a kernel panic - ever ;-)
[08:55] <ripple> cafuego, now wireless connection is avail in my networking.. haha thanks
[08:55] <ripple> ;)
[08:55] <jamesM> you got it?
[08:55] <cafuego> ripple: Ok, cool.
[08:55] <yozBuntu> nice work jamesm/cafuego ;)
[08:55] <jamesM> niiice!
[08:56] <jamesM> ripple, congratulations
[08:56] <cafuego> ripple: You may want to add 'bcm43xx' on a line by itself in /etc/modules
[08:56] <ripple> jamesM well.. haha it's activating, but ive seen this before
[08:56] <jamesM> it's a good step
[08:56] <ripple> no doubt
[08:56] <ripple> activating is taking forever though
[08:56] <pipipi> anybody know about my issue, i would really appreciate some support?
[08:56] <jamesM> it sometimes does
[08:57] <ripple> my net manager still has only wired?
[08:57] <jamesM> ?
[08:57] <jamesM> meaning what?
[08:57] <jamesM> run another iwconfig
[08:57] <ripple> sure
[08:58] <david_g> how do i tell rhythmbox to look on a samba share for its music?
[08:58] <ripple> it has wlan,still
[08:58] <jamesM> any wireless extentions?
[08:58] <ripple> but linkquality=0
[08:58] <cafuego> ripple: wlan0?
[08:59] <jamesM> wlan0 should say IEEE 802.11G with your router's ESSID
[08:59] <|thunder> ive got a laptop here that says it was designed for win 2000, but ubuntu will just no finish booting. the x splash says window manager and it just hangs. wtf ?
[08:59] <ripple> cafuego, what do you mean?
[08:59] <cafuego> It shouldn't say wlan0 *AT ALL*
[08:59] <cafuego> ripple: Does iwconfig mention a wlan0 or an eth1?
[08:59] <|thunder> my wireless is ra0
[08:59] <jamesM> or eth1
[09:00] <ripple> it mentions wlan0
[09:00] <ripple> it used to mention eth1,
[09:00] <cafuego> ripple: Ok, then it's NOT using the bcm43xx driver.
[09:00] <jamesM> my wifi is ath0 so I'm not sure on this one
[09:00] <ripple> one HOW to got me to change that
[09:00] <ripple> i see
[09:00] <cafuego> ripple: Which means that ndiswrapper is loaded.
[09:00] <ripple> really??
[09:00] <jamesM> maybe you should do a clean install to make sure all traces of ndiswrapper are gone
[09:00] <cafuego> ripple: 'sudo rmmod bcm43xx; sudo rmmod ndiswrapepr; sudo modprobe bcm43xx'
[09:00] <nalpha> guys how to monitor network statistic in console??? what should i type
[09:00] <cafuego> Yes, bcm43xx uses the ethX naming scheme.
[09:01] <alienseer23> hello, how do I manually instal bcm43xx-fwcutter if I already have the bcm?
[09:01] <alienseer23> oops, if I already have the rpm...
[09:01] <cafuego> alienseer23: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/pool/dapper-cafuego/bcm43xx/bcm43xx-firmware_1.2-0ubuntu1_all.deb
[09:01] <cafuego> alienseer23: Download, install.
[09:01] <cafuego> avoid RPMs
[09:01] <jamesM> alienseer23, pay attention to ripple, cafuego and my posts
[09:02] <ripple> Module ndiswrapep does not exist in /proc/modules
[09:02] <alienseer23> problem, I cannot get my floppy on the concerned comp to work, and I only have the rpm
[09:02] <|thunder> should a laptop capable of running win2k be capable of running dapper?
[09:02] <nrdb> I am looking for a Linux game simular to the windows game tycoon can anyone help?
[09:02] <AAA> |thunder  mosdef
[09:02] <jamesM> ripple, it might just be a good idea to clean install it
[09:02] <alienseer23> the floppy will not mount
[09:03] <jamesM> I can't figure out how ndiswrapper would still be active
[09:03] <Bonez> mmm, coffee
[09:03] <ripple> jamesM, thanks you and cafuego for your help
[09:03] <cafuego> ripple: Does 'lspci' _really_ mention a Bradcom 4306 ?
[09:03] <AAA> jamesM  isn't there an ndiswrapper init script? /etc/init.d/ndiswrapper or something? can't you stop it?
[09:03] <ripple> im re downloading the file.. maybe it was the CD.. heck.. ill just pop the CD in again and reinstall
[09:03] <cafuego> AAA: Nope
[09:04] <AAA> suck
[09:04] <|thunder> AAA, well. it wont finish loading X. i get to the splash, says window manager and hangs with the cd-rom still accessing. but it can go for hours with nothing more happening. any magic boot options?
[09:04] <jamesM> AAA, I'm not sure I can't remember
[09:04] <ripple> lspci??
[09:04] <jamesM> AAA: but I think not
[09:04] <cafuego> lspci | grep -v broadcom
[09:04] <cafuego> What does that say?
[09:04] <AAA> |thunder  hrm. are you sure the cd image you burned is good?
[09:05] <|thunder> its an official disc
[09:05] <|thunder> from buuntu
[09:05] <|thunder> ubuntu
[09:05] <ripple> what's that post thing called again?
[09:05] <|thunder> !pastebin
[09:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:05] <ripple> word
[09:12] <ripple> jamesM, cafuego, i pastebin nned it for you
[09:12] <jamesM> i'm in there
[09:12] <ripple> it's got a realtek, a broadcom, and a texasinstrument
[09:12] <jn> hey i need some help getting my time set correctly, when i installed ubuntu i didnt set it..
[09:12] <ripple> i think thats my 1340
[09:12] <ripple> jn if you right click on the tim in the top right it should be abled to change it there
[09:12] <cafuego> Hmmm. The 4306 should not be showing up as 'wlan0' with the bcm43xx driver.
[09:12] <jamesM> yeah
[09:12] <jamesM> it should be eth something
[09:12] <cafuego> It should be ethX
[09:12] <AAA> |thunder  are there any errors? you can press <alt>F2 and <alt>F3 during the install to look at the logs
[09:12] <ripple> i edited one line of one file before that it was alway not working and eth1
[09:12] <jn> ripple: it quits unexpectedly
[09:12] <|thunder> its not installing. its booting live
[09:12] <ripple> jn hmm maybe bad memory, or a chip on your bios chip..or battery
[09:12] <AAA> |thunder  and it hangs while loading X?
[09:12] <|thunder> I hit ctrl-alt f6 then f5 then f7 and now its up to nautilus.
[09:12] <mistform> I have problems connection to some websites, while others load fine.  Guys in ##linux said that it was DNS errors.
[09:12] <AAA> |thunder  try F1
[09:12] <mistform> but I tried a new DNS and it worked shortly, but now I have the same problems
[09:12] <mistform> think it could be my bcm43xx driver?
[09:12] <jamesM> ripple, are you wired on this machine you're tying to fix?
[09:12] <ripple> yep
[09:12] <jamesM> do you have any other machines in your immediate vacinity?
[09:12] <ripple> yes, windoze
[09:12] <jn> i think it has to do with dual booting
[09:12] <jamesM> any with irc capability?
[09:12] <ripple> jn what kind of machine?
[09:12] <ripple> jamesM nope just my parents windoze machine.. it has hearts though!!!!!!
[09:12] <lmosher> Is there a way to access information about a laptop's various video out settings?
[09:12] <AAA> how cute
[09:12] <jn> ripple: compaq v2000
[09:13] <BeepAU> i accidently delete the kmess tray icon, can someone help me get it back?
[09:13] <jamesM> ripple, i think the issue is the old ndiswrapper still there, download xchat on the windows box and just do a fresh install, then try this again
[09:13] <ripple> jn dual boot prolly wouldnt do that though. when did you install ..
[09:13] <lmosher> I am able to switch my screen over to my TV-out using the built-in buttons, but the second I open an application the colors shift in a freaky way - this does not happen in windows
[09:13] <Bonez> can someone please recommend a good gnome based HTML editor? something similar to either dreamwaver or MS Frontpage
[09:13] <Bonez> WYSIWYG type thing
[09:13] <jamesM> and jn, that sounds like a RAM issue
[09:14] <mistform> lmosher, have you updated your video drivers?
[09:14] <polpak> Bonez: there's the SCREAM editor , or NVU
[09:14] <polpak> Bonez: both are in the repos
[09:14] <lmosher> misfit_toy, Well its an ancient card (ati 7500) so yes, but there haven't been many updates :P
[09:14] <Bonez> polpak: great thanks ill try nvu
[09:14] <ripple> alrighty,
[09:14] <lmosher> mistform, rather :/
[09:14] <jn> ripple: awhile ago
[09:15] <jamesM> jn, have you tried putting another RAM stick in?
[09:15] <AAA> Bonez  apt-cache search wysiwyg
[09:15] <BeepAU> i accidently delete the kmess tray icon, can someone help me get it back?
[09:15] <lmosher> mistform, I'm really just looking for a video options settings.. Like devices/monitor setup
[09:15] <ripple> jn and this problem just started, or did you just repartiion and install dapper
[09:15] <|thunder> its at the x-gnome splah-screen
[09:15] <lmosher> I sware i saw something like that while I was playing around, but now I can't find it
[09:15] <ripple> jn is it messing up on booth boot partitions?
[09:15] <lmosher> I remember it actually knew my laptop had 3 ouput types, but at the time I had nothing external plugged in so I ddn't test it
[09:16] <mistform> i can't help you a whole lot, lmosher, check ubuntuguide.org
[09:16] <polpak> !ubuntuguide
[09:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubuntuguide - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:16] <polpak> hrm
[09:16] <ripple> jn who knows the way windows and linux access memory, differently it could be a problem wth you mem
[09:16] <jamesM> just for the heck of it
[09:16] <jamesM> !ubuntu
[09:16] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[09:17] <jamesM> well, there you have it
[09:17] <ripple> hahha :)
[09:17] <ripple> jamesM hey, thanks for your help btw
[09:17] <jn> i dont think timezone is set right either
[09:17] <ripple> Im just steaming to get away from windows again
[09:17] <jn> where is the timezone file to edit
[09:17] <sishgupta> i know this isnt the right channel for this but does anyone know how i can sort firefox bookmarks in ABC order WITH (and this is the key part) the folders listed first
[09:17] <jamesM> ripple, no problem
[09:18] <mistform> right-click, alphabetical doesn't do it?
[09:18] <IAskew> sishgupta, right click, sort by nme, does it for me
[09:18] <slid3r> anyone have a good link, tutorial or feel like holding my hand thru a GL/3d install?
[09:18] <BeepAU> i accidently delete the kmess tray icon, can someone help me get it back?
[09:18] <mistform> sishgupta, Right-click > Sort by name
[09:18] <sishgupta> that sorts them by name yes..but not with folders first. at least not for me...
[09:18] <beanz> hello. why does "apt-get install openssh-server" not install sshd?
[09:19] <jamesM> sishgupta, put spaces before all the names of the folders
[09:19] <sishgupta> brilliant
[09:19] <sishgupta> you win my heart
[09:19] <IAskew> sishgupta, u could always go into Manage Bookmark and drag the folders to the top
[09:19] <jamesM> o...k...
[09:19] <sishgupta> askew, you can not drag bookmarks when sorted
[09:19] <IAskew> u can in 'manage bookmarks' sishgupta
[09:20] <sishgupta> i am there and i can not.
[09:20] <slid3r> nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel.
[09:20] <sishgupta> i try to drag and it looks like it will but no change will be made
[09:20] <sishgupta> if turn on "unsorted" then i may drag as i see fit
[09:21] <jamesM> sishgupta, just try the spaces thing
[09:21] <IAskew> ive just done it on mine to make sure sishgupta np here
[09:21] <sishgupta> yeah im allready doing that, thanks
[09:22] <ripple> jamesM, what is the first thing im supposed to run after reinstall again??
[09:22] <sishgupta> ah i tell you what i am doing wrong. i am going to view>sort by name in the bookmarks manager. if i use view>unsorted and then right click and choose sort by name, it is not the same function
[09:22] <sishgupta> but it sorts by name
[09:22] <sishgupta> and then i can drag
[09:22] <mike0002> what is grub error code 17?
[09:22] <sishgupta> and i dont need to use spaces because it puts folders first
[09:22] <sishgupta> yay.
[09:22] <mike0002> i installed another sata hard drive, and now grub gives me that error
[09:22] <jamesM> ripple, run through the bcm43xx instructions in the thread I gave you
[09:22] <ripple> jamesM, ill just email the link to myself
[09:22] <jamesM> you need it?
[09:23] <ripple> jamesM sorry i closed without bookmarking
[09:23] <revstray_> good evening all
[09:23] <ripple> could you send it again?
[09:23] <ag0ny> can someone point me towards an howto for changing the used charset under dapper drake?
[09:23] <jamesM> ripple: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174&highlight=bcm43xx
[09:23] <ripple> jamesM k bro, here goes the reinstall ;)
[09:23] <jamesM> Ripple: good luck
[09:23] <BeepAU> i accidently delete the kmess tray icon, can someone help me get it back?
[09:24] <jcase> is this an appropriate forum to ask a question about Deskbar?
[09:24] <beanz> when I type "apt-get install openssh-server" it tells me that the package does not exist, but it is referenced by other packages. anyone help?
[09:24] <RvGaTe> morning...
[09:24] <jn> has anyone had problems with xgl and mplayer
[09:24] <ripple> jamesM apparently the broadcom folk need it!
[09:25] <hyperstream> jn,  sure have. it doesnt work :x
[09:25] <jamesM> haha, yes
[09:25] <jn> hyperstream: no fix?
[09:25] <hyperstream> not that i know of i didnt seek one out:x
[09:25] <jn> what do you use?
[09:25] <jamesM> jn, xgl just won't play nicely with some things
[09:25] <hyperstream> xine it think
[09:26] <jn> xine.. i keep hearing about it i'll check it out
[09:26] <mike0002> what is grub error 17
[09:26] <mike0002> and how do i fix it
[09:26] <Steggy> Does anyone here have much experience converting .wmv files with Mencoder? I'm trying to do so, but all the output .avi files are horrible quality. I'm wondering if there's not some option i can't find that increases/decreases the audio/video encoding quality, but I can't find anything--possibly because the man page for mencoder (well, mplayer) is so huge.
[09:26] <hyperstream> mike0002, tried the homepage for grub? or google ?
[09:26] <mike0002> yes
[09:26] <mike0002> it says cannot mount partition is error 17
[09:26] <mike0002> but i can mount it fine in knoppix
[09:26] <jn> is there a deb for xine
[09:26] <jn> never mind found it
[09:26] <hyperstream> i know for a fact that grub's homepage has a list of error codes. please search there first.
[09:27] <mgjs> mike0002, what is the partition type?
[09:28] <mike0002> i think ext2
[09:28] <hyperstream> you think?
[09:28] <mike0002> yes dont remember for sure, it has lots of partitions
[09:28] <jamesM> ripple, how
[09:28] <jamesM> is it going?
[09:29] <mike0002> 17 : Cannot mount selected partition
[09:29] <mike0002> This error is returned if the partition requested exists, but the filesystem type cannot be recognized by GRUB.
[09:29] <ripple> jamesM just trying to connect xchat on the windows machine
[09:29] <jamesM> ahh, ok
[09:29] <ripple> jamesM but not having much luck with that at the moment
[09:29] <mike0002> knoppix can recognize it, why cant grub?
[09:29] <BeepAU> i accidently delete the kmess tray icon, can someone help me get it back?
[09:29] <mike0002> the partition is whatever the default for ubuntu is
[09:29] <jn> xine leaves weird trails on the screen when run
[09:29] <micahcowan> mike0002,  what is the partition device you're mounting in knoppix, and  how is it being represented in grubspeke (pastebin your menu.lst)?
[09:29] <hyperstream> :/
[09:30] <hyperstream> totem ?
[09:30] <ripple> jamesM i think my firewall is getting in the way of the windows machine
[09:30] <mike0002> hda1
[09:30] <ripple> jamesM, prolly some Norton thing my parents have going on
[09:30] <mike0002> dunno what grubspeke is
[09:30] <jn> totem?
[09:30] <jamesM> Ripple, now I remember why I blew away windose
[09:30] <hyperstream> google it.
[09:30] <jn> vlc works ok
[09:30] <hyperstream> totem movie player
[09:31] <mistform> anyone here play BZflag?
[09:31] <mike0002> i think i know how to fix it...
[09:31] <mike0002> fixmbr and bye bye ubuntu
[09:31] <hyperstream> that will work.
[09:31] <jn> is totem better than vlc?
[09:31] <mike0002> mplayer is the best
[09:31] <ripple> jamesM. hmm.. it will connect to other server, but not Ubuntu Servers
[09:31] <jamesM> BeepAU, just FYI, they're not ignoring you, I think it's just that nobody knows the answer
[09:31] <hyperstream> i would use vlc over totem.
[09:32] <jn> ya well mplayer doesnt play nice with xgl
[09:32] <hyperstream> mike0002,  he's talking on xgl. please read. :)
[09:32] <FantasticFoo> what was the newer (and supposedly better) version of gkrellm called again?
[09:32] <BeepAU> jamesM - ok
[09:32] <mike0002> mplayer plays the best with my xgl
[09:32] <mike0002> across dual monitors at different resolutions too
[09:32] <jamesM> ripple, that's odd
[09:32] <hyperstream> lawl.
[09:33] <hyperstream> mike0002, too bad your going to fixmbr as you're next solution to your grub issue :)
[09:33] <mike0002> yeah then ill have to fix grub some other time
[09:33] <mike0002> that partition isnt going anywhere...
[09:33] <jamesM> ripple, your ethernet (wired) works good right off the bat, yeah?
[09:33] <jn> hey try this 'mplayer -vo x11
[09:33] <ripple> jamesM ya
[09:34] <hyperstream> jn im in default session :) i play Wow,
[09:34] <hyperstream> which im about to fire up shortly
[09:34] <ripple> jamesM this reinstall will only take about 20 mins, so ill just verify the CD and be off
[09:34] <jamesM> ripple, you feel comfortable with losing contact with #ubuntu just for as long as it takes to install?
[09:34] <hyperstream> lawl @ jamesM
[09:34] <jamesM> hyperstream, what?
[09:35] <ripple> jamesM i dunno :P
[09:35] <ripple> hege
[09:35] <ripple> ok ill be back
[09:35] <jamesM> ripple, just go ahead with the install and I'll be in here
[09:35] <ripple> k catcha then
[09:35] <RvGaTe> ok, now all leave :P
[09:35] <IAskew> lol
[09:35] <jamesM> haha
[09:36] <Awesome-o2000> AAA I apologize, my father called - how can I change my eth1 into my eth0
[09:36] <RvGaTe> he would go like... "wtf? :P"
[09:36] <jamesM> AAA died while you were gone
[09:37] <jamesM> it's nigh on 1am, here I need a break
[09:37] <Awesome-o2000> :((
[09:45] <rialye> i hear ubuntu is better now then when i cried for the dependencies last time
[09:45] <Madpilot> rialye, the new version came out in June - when was the last time you tried Ubuntu?
[09:45] <rialye> last year
[09:45] <rialye> hoary i think
[09:45] <Madpilot> there's been two releases since Hoary
[09:45] <rialye> really
[09:45] <rialye> give me the names
[09:45] <micahcowan> breezy badger, and dapper drake
[09:45] <micahcowan> edgy eft's coming out october.
[09:45] <rialye> whoa
[09:45] <jamesM> in the mean time, what are everyone's favorite repos?
[09:45] <rialye> i knew about breezy
[09:45] <rialye> so has it made any big advances
[09:45] <ranbee> does anyone know the name of the program which will take programs from the panel and minimise them to the notifcation area? it was used in the true transparency tutorial?
[09:45] <Madpilot> rialye, just about everything has been upgraded & updated; it boots faster, runs faster, and has some new shiny stuff
[09:45] <apprentice> really im all about the shiny
[09:45] <jamesM> apprentice, it has much better wifi support now
[09:45] <micahcowan> I wouldn't know... I started with breezy and updated to dapper a few weeks in.
[09:45] <micahcowan> I'm using edgy at home now.
[09:45] <ardchoille> What is the command to see which services are running?
[09:45] <apprentice> well ubuntu was decent but im mad at gnome and kde
[09:45] <jamesM> ardchoille, you can try top
[09:45] <jamesM> apprentice, you like Xfce?
[09:45] <gh0zt> hey
[09:45] <micahcowan> you could go for just a window manager...
[09:45] <IAskew> ardchoille, ps -aux
[09:45] <apprentice> xfce was ok but honeslty i want more shinny stuff
[09:45] <mike0002> shit fixmbr didnt work
[09:45] <mike0002> giving hte same cannot read from hard disk garbage
[09:45] <ardchoille> IAskew: d'oh! I knew that.. wasn't thinking
[09:45] <yozBuntu> apprentice, Xgl is pretty shiny
[09:45] <IAskew> :)
[09:45] <jamesM> micahcowan, is edgy any good?
[09:45] <yozBuntu> and getting more shiny every week
[09:45] <micahcowan> fairly unstable still, atm.
[09:45] <apprentice> Xgl is that the new suse thing
[09:45] <yozBuntu> it's awesome prentice
[09:45] <ranbee> mike0002 did you delete a partition?
[09:45] <mike0002> no
[09:45] <ranbee> okay
[09:45] <jamesM> XGL is prettier than Vista and OS X
[09:45] <jn> anyone know how to get programs that claim "always ontop" to actually be "always ontop"
[09:45] <yozBuntu> xgl + compiz + cgwd is sweet
[09:45] <mike0002> i just added a hard drive
[09:45] <yozBuntu> very sharp looking imo
[09:45] <yozBuntu> and it actually seems to generally make things run faster.
[09:45] <jn> ya.. but no mplayer support.. cmon
[09:45] <ranbee> mike0002 I stopped using Ubuntu because it can't see my drives
[09:45] <letters_9> try winternals administators pack
[09:45] <yozBuntu> more work done by gpu chipset instead of cpu heh
[09:45] <letters_9> its a download but
[09:45] <letters_9> the emergency recovery disk is most brilliant
[09:45] <apprentice> xgl is it like kde or something
[09:45] <jamesM> one thing to be said for XGL is that it takes fewer resources than Vista
[09:45] <micahcowan> heh
[09:45] <Awesome-o2000> ok then - anyone? how do I switch my eth1 into my eth0? I changed network cards and now my new network card is coming up as eth1 instead of eth0
[09:45] <letters_9> but has anyone got experince wth sm56 modem's ?
[09:45] <jamesM> XGL is a windows manager
[09:46] <apprentice> oh so i thought
[09:46] <yozBuntu> apprentice, it's an accelerated version of your x server actually
[09:46] <letters_9> softmodems ?
[09:46] <micahcowan> with special effects...
[09:46] <yozBuntu> like it uses the 3D chips on your video card to do the drawing of the windows and some really awesome looking effects
[09:46] <jamesM> apprentice, it won't always play nicely with your apps, though
[09:46] <letters_9> mike0002 if you want the stuff back bet you can, but patience and that
[09:46] <micahcowan> still pretty experimental
[09:47] <letters_9> dont do anything silly
[09:47] <apprentice> well we need cooler apps and stuff
[09:47] <yozBuntu> i've gotten it running on three different systems now
[09:47] <jamesM> dl.tv did a pretty nice demo of it on the show
[09:47] <yozBuntu> it runs real slick, i love it ;)
[09:47] <yozBuntu> gotta run bbl
[09:47] <micahcowan> mike0002, if you added a hard drive... are you sure the primary didn't become the slave?
[09:47] <letters_9> stellar phoenix ntfs is the best ive found
[09:47] <mike0002> where can i download it
[09:47] <letters_9> but really, anyone got experience installing sm56 or conextant modems ?
[09:47] <mike0002> i added an sata
[09:47] <jamesM> one of the suposed uses is hiding porn at work...
[09:48] <letters_9> yeah bet thats it mica
[09:48] <mike0002> didnt think there were primary / slaves with sata
[09:48] <apprentice> porn yummy
[09:48] <letters_9> the data is still there ,
[09:48] <letters_9> dont panic
[09:48] <letters_9> must have another hd
[09:48] <mike0002> the drive that is giving problems is ide
[09:48] <micahcowan> if it is possible, though, it's worth checking into.
[09:49] <Madpilot> micahcowan, SATA is one drive per cable, no master/slave stuff
[09:49] <micahcowan> mike0002, at least, it may be trying to boot the sata drive instead of the other.
[09:49] <micahcowan> Madpilot, okay, makes sense.
[09:49] <letters_9> i read some thing about the difference between doing sata and ide hmm
[09:49] <mike0002> i know...
[09:49] <letters_9> dont have sata so i didnt look...
[09:49] <mike0002> i have 3 sata drives
[09:49] <mike0002> and 1 ide
[09:50] <juanca777_> hello everyone
[09:50] <micahcowan> mike0002, as a troubleshooting step, it might be worth unplugging the sata to see if the ide comes back up...
[09:50] <mike0002> tried that no difference
[09:50] <micahcowan> none?
[09:51] <micahcowan> huh.
[09:51] <mike0002> also tried switching the ide cable to see if its messed up
[09:51] <juanca777_> i was wondering is ther was such a thing like an editor handle via voice?
[09:51] <letters_9> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=46003
[09:51] <micahcowan> Sure that you didn't accidentally unseat the ide cable from either the mobo or the drive? :)
[09:51] <letters_9> thats not hte one i was looking at but might be worth a read
[09:51] <letters_9> mike0002
[09:51] <mike0002> yes
[09:51] <letters_9> have you got a softmodem ?
[09:51] <mike0002> wtf is that
[09:51] <letters_9> dammit
[09:52] <letters_9> do i have to buy an external one
[09:52] <letters_9> grr, or pay $20 do buy drivers that dont work
[09:52] <letters_9> my mate will swap me his sm56, motorola which has all these drivers
[09:52] <letters_9> but no debian or ubuntu
[09:52] <letters_9> i have a conextant
[09:52] <letters_9> im a noob but
[09:53] <letters_9> redhat, err and other ones
[09:53] <letters_9> something arg -t to convert the rpm's to dpx or whatever
[09:53] <letters_9> but i cant rave on here when I do it
[09:53] <letters_9> argh
[09:54] <letters_9> you all have adsl direct internet , i can tell
[09:54] <[flanque] > hello, i'm trying to set up apache2 with a self signed certificate on unbuntu and it seemed to go well according to this documents instructions (http://ilovett.com/blog/projects/installing-ssl-on-debian-apache2) but im not able to open the default page with https:// ... can i please have some assistance?
[09:54] <letters_9> they really should make it better for dialup softmodems
[09:55] <Madpilot> letters_9, cable here :)
[09:55] <jeffery> I am installing ubuntu dapper, how do I setup logical volume when I install it
[09:55] <Ash-Fox> letters_9, what for dialup?
[09:55] <letters_9> laugh it up fly boy :)
[09:55] <[flanque] > jeffery: it gives you that option during installation
[09:55] <letters_9> yeah
[09:55] <letters_9> i live in australia,
[09:55] <letters_9> we just got electricty
[09:56] <letters_9> so i thouhgt, id try out these new fangled computer things
[09:56] <Ash-Fox> I know plenty of people who have ADSL, HDSL there.
[09:56] <XVampireX> letters_9: lol
[09:56] <jeffery> Flannel: just booting up... will have a look
[09:56] <letters_9> dammit the salesman said it was a hardmodem
[09:57] <letters_9> and linuxant says , try the HSF if the HCF dont work,
[09:57] <letters_9> but my head was spinning by then
[09:57] <letters_9> anyway , i just downloaded a power of stuff , and saved heaps of webpages
[09:58] <letters_9> so, thought id go and bump some heads before I went off and tried to make the )#(%$)*(&#% thing work again
[09:59] <bosewicht> anyone have a working mic on an acer laptop?
[09:59] <onkarshinde> letters_9: Can you give us PCI id of modem? As for HSF modem, I believe there are opensource drivers available somewhere on wiki
[10:02] <mike0002> hmmmm
[10:02] <mike0002> it works in vista
[10:02] <mememe> :|
[10:03] <onkarshinde> bosewicht: What is problem exactly?
[10:03] <jamesM> mike0002, is your drive set to master?
[10:04] <bosewicht> hmm, i'm not getting anything from my mic, onboard and external....can't figure it out..it works on my desktop with ubuntu, but not my laptop and i know it should
[10:04] <mike0002> yes its set to master
[10:04] <mike0002> its the only ide drive
[10:04] <micahcowan> mike0002, you didn't twiddle with your CMOS settings when installing the new SATA, did you?
[10:05] <mike0002> no
[10:05] <mike0002> grub stopped working
[10:05] <jamesM> mike0002 are you sure there's an OS on there?
[10:05] <mike0002> then windows stopped working through fixmbr
[10:05] <mike0002> only thing that works is vista...
[10:05] <lacostej> Hi. totem was updated to 1.4.3 but I don't seem to get the totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin v 1.4.3-x in my list of available packages. Anyone knows if there something blocking its update ?
[10:05] <jamesM> oh, damn
[10:05] <jamesM> wow, mike
[10:05] <bosewicht> i have mic unmuted and i tried with external amp and without
[10:05] <jamesM> that vista
[10:05] <jamesM> it's a killer
[10:06] <mike0002> lol
[10:06] <onkarshinde> bosewicht: It mignt be possible that Mic is muted. Did you verify it? Right click on the speaker icon in
[10:06] <onkarshinde> bosewicht: sorry, I meant to say that you have to also unmute 'Capture'
[10:06] <bosewicht> yeah, i'm using alsamixer i have it unmute and tried both mics
[10:07] <bosewicht> capture is unmuted too
[10:07] <onkarshinde> lacostej: any chance that universe repository is commented. this plugin is in universe
[10:08] <bosewicht> it's gotta be something stupid i'm doing
[10:08] <lacostej> onkarshinde: universe is OK. maybe a mirror issue ?
[10:09] <onkarshinde> bosewicht: Why don't you try searching on laptop testing reports according to your model? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/Acer
[10:09] <onkarshinde> lacostej: which mirror?
[10:09] <bosewicht> yeah been there and they all say outta the box it should work
[10:09] <onkarshinde> lacostej: paste your sources.list to pastebin
[10:09] <lacostej> onkarshinde: strange I can see it in my mirror. Maybe an apotitude bug...
[10:10] <onkarshinde> lacostej: please paste sources.list
[10:10] <onkarshinde> bosewicht: can't help you
[10:10] <FeestBijtje> Some one knows if amarok can play FLAC files?
[10:10] <bosewicht> thats alright...just figured i would give it a try in here
[10:10] <onkarshinde> FeestBijtje: It should. amarok uses gstreamer as backend.
[10:11] <jeffery> Flannel: I am on the "Prepare disk space" screen of the installation.. do I select "Manuallay edit partition table" ?
[10:11] <FeestBijtje> onkarshinde: and gstreamer is able to use flac files?
[10:11] <lacostej> onkarshinde:  http://pastebin.ca/123403
[10:11] <onkarshinde> FeestBijtje: Yes, for sure. FLAC is free format. So you don't even need to install any extra packages.
[10:12] <FeestBijtje> onkarshinde: so on a default install it is able to play FLAC files?
[10:12] <Madpilot> FeestBijtje, it should be able to - other gstreamer-using apps can play FLAC by default, I know
[10:13] <onkarshinde> lacostej: There you go, universe is not present in the line of dapper-updates. Also you are missing dapper-security line for all repositories
[10:13] <FeestBijtje> Madpilot: how do i install gstreamer plugin on amarok?
[10:13] <rpedro> Madpilot: amarok currently only uses the xine engine AFAIK
[10:14] <onkarshinde> FeestBijtje: You don't need to install anything. gstreamer is present by default.
[10:14] <Madpilot> rpedro, that's the trouble, then - amarok is out of date
[10:14] <FeestBijtje> onkarshinde: thank you :)
[10:15] <onkarshinde> FeestBijtje: are you using KDE?
[10:15] <rpedro> Madpilot: yes , they don't have anyone working on the gstreamer engine since some releases
[10:15] <lacostej> onkarshinde: I think I have dapper-security for main restricted universe and multiverse . I do indeed miss dapper-updates
[10:16] <onkarshinde> lacostej: Ok. my mistake about security. But I am right about updates
[10:16] <FeestBijtje> any one knows how to soulve this: When i am running XMMS i play 1 song and it stops after the song and dousnt proceed to another song how do i soulve this?
[10:16] <jeffery> Does the ubuntu installer create partitions using LVM ?
[10:17] <onkarshinde> FeestBijtje: You should set some preference for auto advance of playlist. Don't exactly remember where it is.
[10:17] <onkarshinde> jeffery: text install does AFAIK, don't know about the live CD installer
[10:17] <lacostej> onkarshinde: yes thanks. I think that I wouldn't have missed it if the default apt.sources had the lines for dapper-updates universe/multiverse commented out. But there were none.
[10:18] <jeffery> onkarshinde: how do I start the text installer ?
[10:18] <FloK> to do simple routing/masquerading what do i have to put as nameserver in the LAN box?
[10:18] <onkarshinde> jeffery: It is on different CD. 'Alternate' CD
[10:18] <FloK> the same as in the router's resolv.conf?
[10:18] <jeffery> ah bugger
[10:19] <micahcowan> FeestBijtje, you can manually click the next song and it starts playing (you've verified this)?
[10:20] <FeestBijtje> micahcowan: yes
[10:20] <FeestBijtje> micahcowan: i have to press for next song then on play
[10:21] <Leeif> !nvidia
[10:21] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:22] <onkarshinde> Leeif: Which card is it?
[10:22] <Leeif> hi. i updated to edgy, but now i have a lot of dependency problems...
[10:22] <onkarshinde> Leeif: Can't help with Edgy.
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[10:23] <Leeif> ok
[10:24] <jeffery> what is the main difference between alternative desktop and server releases ?
[10:25] <onkarshinde> jeffery: optimized kernel in server releases
[10:25] <mike0002> it works... sort of
[10:25] <jeffery> onkarshinde: so if I use the alternative release, will I be able to run xen successfully ?
[10:26] <mike0002> adding a sata drive switched all the drive #s for some reason and killed all os installs
[10:26] <onkarshinde> jeffery: That I don't know. I haven't used xen.
[10:26] <jeffery> ok I will try
[10:27] <lacostej> onkarshinde: thanks for the help by the way. Really appreciated.
[10:27] <onkarshinde> lacostej: Welcome
[10:35] <alienseer23> Q: please, how do I stop all x services?
[10:35] <frenkel> does anybody here use monodevelop on dapper?
[10:35] <alienseer23> and command from console only?
[10:36] <alienseer23> ctrl+alt+backspace is only restarting x, not stopping it
[10:36] <frenkel> alienseer23: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:37] <bnD> i always use ps aux | grep x
[10:37] <FeestBijtje> Amarok dousnt start what should i do?
[10:37] <frenkel> what error do you get?
[10:37] <alienseer23> thank you
[10:37] <frenkel> yw
[10:38] <FeestBijtje> frenkel: thats the funny part there is no error
[10:38] <frenkel> not even when you start it from a terminal/console?
[10:38] <FeestBijtje> frenkel: only thing i did is linked amarok to my mysql database... it crashed i force quited the program now it dousnt start up
[10:38] <FeestBijtje> frenkel: on terminal it stay's clean when i start amarok
[10:39] <frenkel> weird
[10:39] <frenkel> try removing your config for it then
[10:39] <FeestBijtje> frenkel: thats the whole deal if i had a error i could soulve it my self >.<
[10:39] <wthww> ohh man. im ready to beat my brains out. i dont get why Ubuntu wont boot on this system
[10:39] <FeestBijtje> frenkel: ive removed the amarok dir in /home/feestbijtje/.kde/apps/amarok <- deleted that dir
[10:40] <FeestBijtje> frenkel: where is the config dir located?
[10:40] <frenkel> don't know, i don't use it
[10:40] <FeestBijtje> frenkel: lol :)
[10:41] <frenkel> FeestBijtje: type this on a console: find ~ -name "*amarok*"
[10:41] <frenkel> that will search for everything amarok related in you home dir
[10:42] <glen_> hi - wonder could somebody help me apply the xine-lib patch to fix flac playback problem in amarok. not sure what i'm doing
[10:43] <onkarshinde> glen_: Why do you want to patch the lib yourself. You should just update the package.
[10:44] <glen_> onkarshinde, is there an updtae available?
[10:44] <onkarshinde> glen_: check packages.ubuntu.com for changelog of latest libxine package
[10:45] <glen_> onkarshinde, ok, thanks. will do that.
[10:46] <IAskew> whats the easiest-to-configure firewall with ubuntu?
[10:46] <Subhuman> IAskew, firestarter.
[10:46] <penitibiru> HAi?!?!
[10:46] <IAskew> thx Subhuman
[10:47] <ardchoille> I feel so stupid now. For hours I have been trying to get ssh to work between two machines on my lan. and all the while it was /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny keeping me out.
[10:47] <penitibiru> Hi..PUPPETS Gonzo
[10:47] <nalpha> what's ftp manager has gui for ubuntu???
[10:48] <Subhuman> nalpha, gftp
[10:48] <nalpha> oh.. thanx alot
[10:48] <mindmedic> nalpha: nautilus can do ftp too
[10:48] <nalpha> how?
[10:48] <viktor> Please help me i have to either find the kernel sources for 2.6.15-26-386 or update the kernel and get the kernel sources for the new kernel and i have no idee how to do this :S
[10:49] <nalpha> oh yah i know
[10:49] <nalpha> thanx
[10:49] <IAskew> and now i have stealth, thx once again Subhuman
[10:49] <Subhuman> viktor, if you dont know how to do it, then you probably dont need it either.
[10:49] <ardchoille> Ok, now, when I'm done, how do I log out of an ssh session?
[10:50] <Subhuman> ardchoille, just type "logout"
[10:50] <Subhuman> or "exit"
[10:50] <ardchoille> ahh, thanks Subhuman
[10:50] <viktor> i need cuse i can't install my drivers for my sound card if i don't do it
[10:50] <viktor> subhuman i need cuse i can't install my drivers for my sound card if i don't do it
[10:51] <Subhuman> !kernel
[10:51] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[10:51] <Subhuman> viktor, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[10:51] <Subhuman> you can get kernel sources from www.kernel.org
[10:51] <[PUPPETS] Gonzo> hi penitibiru?
[10:51] <viktor> subhuman i tried to find the sources for my kernel but i couldn't find any :/:/
[10:52] <Subhuman> but viktor that version is the one ubuntu is using currently.
[10:52] <Subhuman> viktor, jus "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)"
[10:53] <penitibiru> kenalan dong PUPPETS
[10:53] <Subhuman> viktor, run that command to get the sources for your current kernel.
[10:53] <viktor> exactly like that or should i change the uname -r to my kernel version ? =)
[10:54] <viktor> subhuman exactly like that or should i change the uname -r to my kernel version ? =)
[10:54] <Subhuman> viktor, run it just like i said, the uname -r will output your kernel version, thats why i wrote it like that.
[10:54] <viktor> okay great
[10:54] <viktor> done it :D
[10:54] <viktor> now i try to install the audio drivers again
[10:55] <Subhuman> try uname -r in the terminal to see what i mean, doing $(command) just executes/outputs it and puts in the output.
[10:55] <viktor> okay
[10:55] <penitibiru> hwey...PUPPETS kenalan dunX
[10:55] <viktor> subhuman thx now it looks like the installer works properly =)
[10:56] <Subhuman> viktor, sorry about earlier, i thought u wanted to rebuild your kernel from source. you actually wanted the headers, not the source.
[10:57] <phos-phoros> off topic, but wow, this video overlyimpressed me with the creator's professionalism. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article14258.htm
[10:58] <viktor> subhuman no prob =) now i started to wonder how i can get the S/PDIF to work properly now when the drivers is installed :P
[10:58] <alienseer23> Q: how do I know if I should be 386 or 686?
[10:58] <colo> alienseer23: what's your box' processor?
[10:58] <onkarshinde> alienseer23: which processor?
[10:59] <alienseer23> in the device manager it sais, under motherboard   system.kernel.machine 686
[10:59] <alienseer23> but for system.kernel.version 386
[10:59] <alienseer23> processor, hold on
[10:59] <colo> nopaste the output of `cat /proc/cpuinfo`
[11:00] <viktor> alienseer23 is u have a 64bit system use 686 if not use 386
[11:00] <viktor> or was i all wrong now ??
[11:00] <onkarshinde> viktor: Yes you are wrong
[11:00] <alienseer23> no such file
[11:01] <nexus6> alienseer23, are you sure?
[11:01] <onkarshinde> alienseer23: If you have PIV use 686. If it is AMD, use k7, if amd 64 then clearly you need different installation.
[11:01] <alienseer23> yes
[11:01] <dragon> hi
[11:01] <xine> hi
[11:01] <onkarshinde> dragon: hi
[11:01] <dragon> id like some help with americas army
[11:01] <alienseer23> i believe it is an amd 2800+
[11:02] <onkarshinde> dragon: join #ubuntu-gaming
[11:02] <dragon> ok
[11:02] <colo> alienseer23: it's safe to use i686, then
[11:02] <onkarshinde> alienseer23: Then use k7 kernel. I am using same on AMD 2000+
[11:02] <alienseer23> what is best, then?
[11:03] <colo> are we talking about linux-image?
[11:03] <alienseer23> and how would I switch from 386 other than a fresh install?
[11:03] <alienseer23> fresh install
[11:03] <colo> you should use k7 if you're on a 64bit amd and have an i386 install
[11:03] <viktor> does anyoe know how to enable the S/PDIF on realtek AC'97 ALC850 with the nvidia chipset
[11:03] <onkarshinde> alienseer23: an entry will be added to grub menu
[11:03] <alienseer23> so I shoudl redownload the ubuntu to 686?
[11:04] <onkarshinde> colo: read the description of k7 kernel. It is for AMD 32 bit systems.
[11:04] <glen_> alienseer23, go to synaptic and choose different kernel and install it
[11:04] <nexus6> alienseer23: you can install the linux image via apt
[11:04] <colo> onkarshinde: yeah, so what?
[11:04] <KrisWood> has anyone here tried installing Gforge on ubuntu?
[11:04] <colo> it's compiled with 3dnow and sse-support
[11:04] <alienseer23> oh?
[11:04] <colo> perfect for k8 as well as for k7
[11:04] <krimzon> i've now installed 6.06 desktop. could anyone help me connect to the wireless network? (its a wg311t)
[11:04] <onkarshinde> alienseer23: No. The kernel packages are available in repositories
[11:04] <colo> (i know what i'm talking about ;))
[11:05] <glen_> alienseer23, you'll then have choice of different kernels at boot time
[11:05] <colo> install the -k7-package
[11:05] <colo> it utilizes most of your cpu's features
[11:05] <colo> you don't need to reinstall anything
[11:05] <alienseer23> colo, I hear you loud and clear, I am most concerned about motherboard issues, tho
[11:06] <onkarshinde> krimzon: which wireless card? paste output of lspci to pastebin
[11:06] <colo> alienseer23: why? what's bothering you?
[11:06] <alienseer23> wondering if having the wrong kernel is causing cards not to be read/routed correctly
[11:06] <alienseer23> video
[11:07] <nexus6> krimzon, have a look at network-manager and network-manager-gnome / network-manager-kde packages
[11:07] <colo> no, there are no differences between the kernel images except the CFLAGS used to compile the binaries
[11:07] <onkarshinde> alienseer23: It is better to ask question that to assume something. What is the problem exactly?
[11:07] <alienseer23> it will not read my card correctly
[11:07] <alienseer23> will not find the tv out
[11:07] <dragon> that chanel didint help....or say n e thing at all
[11:08] <alienseer23> cannot find the name/model of the card
[11:08] <krimzon> where are those packages?
[11:08] <nexus6> you can find them in synaptic
[11:08] <krimzon> and wheres lspci?
[11:08] <nexus6> type that command in a console
[11:09] <jn> hey is there a way to set shortcuts for any application in kde?
[11:09] <onkarshinde> krimzon: Applications->Accessories-Terminal. Type the command there
[11:09] <alienseer23> it knows the chioset is nforce, but there are alot of unknowns in my device list
[11:09] <alienseer23> most unnerving being cpu and video car
[11:09] <FloK> sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[11:09] <FloK> permission denied
[11:10] <FloK> ?? how can i do that?
[11:10] <Subhuman> FloK, run "sudo -i" then run  "echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward"
[11:10] <viktor> can someone please help me to enable the S/PDIF or the 7.1 channels on my realtek AC'97 ALC850 i have installed the drivers etc
[11:10] <nexus6> alienseer23, whats the output for "lspci | grep VGA"
[11:10] <krimzon> can't i just type the line for the wireless card here?
[11:10] <FloK> thx Subhuman
[11:11] <ardchoille> FloK: echo 1 | sudo tee -a /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[11:11] <onkarshinde> krimzon: Sure. But don't paste anything more than 2 lines here.
[11:11] <krimzon> k
[11:11] <alienseer23> ok, it has it there :)
[11:11] <nexus6> see :)
[11:11] <colo> ardchoille: why use tee for such a triviality?
[11:11] <nexus6> i guess you need the appropriate driver
[11:12] <nexus6> and module loaded
[11:12] <alienseer23> I have it
[11:12] <krimzon> 0000:00:0c Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)
[11:12] <alienseer23> nvidia-glx
[11:12] <ardchoille> colo: because  sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward  will not work ;)
[11:12] <nexus6> yes thats alright
[11:12] <alienseer23> still, nogo
[11:12] <nexus6> you could check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:12] <colo> ardchoille: ah, my bad :)
[11:12] <nexus6> in the device section, which driver is activated?
[11:12] <colo> i'm one of those `sudo su`-guys ;)
[11:13] <nexus6> lets just include sudo -s in bashrc :)
[11:13] <ardchoille> colo: ahh, I've never used sudo su
[11:13] <alienseer23> nvidia, did that
[11:13] <onkarshinde> krimzon: According to this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WirelessChipsets your card is supported. All you need to do is install network-manager
[11:13] <nexus6> whats the "glxinfo" output
[11:13] <alienseer23> followed the nvidia install how to's and forum things
[11:13] <krimzon> i cant find network-manager-gnome in synaptic
[11:14] <alienseer23> where is that?
[11:14] <nexus6> yes krimzon, just copy "sudo apt-get install network-manager network-manager-gnome" to a terminal
[11:14] <redondo81> is there anyone can help me to configure a wireless network?
[11:14] <nexus6> alienseer23, its a command
[11:14] <nexus6> type it in terminal
[11:14] <Awesome-o2000> wow - I switched motherboards and I only had to change one file and the system works fine
[11:14] <alienseer23> that's huge, what part?
[11:14] <Awesome-o2000> thats nuts
[11:14] <nexus6> do you get any libGL warning alienseer23 ?
[11:14] <onkarshinde> krimzon: I guess it is in universe repositories.
[11:15] <redondo81> hei
[11:15] <krimzon> E: Couldn't find package network-manager
[11:15] <alienseer23> no warnings that I can see
[11:15] <nexus6> krimzon, have a look at this
[11:15] <nexus6> http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/DapperGuide#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[11:16] <InterNut> whats the command to see what kernel is loaded?
[11:16] <onkarshinde> krimzon: Paste your /etcapt/sources.list to pastebin. May be it need fixing
[11:16] <redondo81> when I launch tha make command it's said me that it cannot finf the command...why?
[11:16] <TheMoebius> whats that version of make install that we should use instead of make install? It generates a .deb file or something?
[11:16] <TheMoebius> whats the command?
[11:16] <nexus6> TheMoebius,
[11:17] <nexus6> checkinstall
[11:17] <nexus6> (i guess thats what you mean)
[11:17] <krimzon> will this need an internet connection to be working?
[11:17] <onkarshinde> redondo81: you need to install 'build-essential' package. Also make sure that whatever you are trying to compile is not already there in repositories.
[11:17] <nexus6> krimzon, yes
[11:17] <onkarshinde> krimzon: Yes.
[11:17] <alienseer23> when I go to install the nfoce drivers from nvidia (before my glx install) it only asked about ethernet and sound, what about all the rest of the nfource chips?
[11:17] <TheMoebius> nexus6: ok so if I'm compiling something I do `make && checkinstall`?
[11:17] <nexus6> TheMoebius, right!
[11:17] <alienseer23> is that all bios controlled?
[11:17] <redondo81> ok thanks, and form where can I install it?
[11:17] <onkarshinde> TheMoebius: 'sudo checkinstall -d make install' is the correct way to do it.
[11:18] <FloK> i see there's no default user group "users" as i'm used from other distros
[11:18] <BazziR> alienseer23: uuuh... is it necessary for you to install the nforce drivers and not use the bundled ones?
[11:18] <FloK> what's corresponding group?
[11:18] <ayeizajedi> morning everyone
[11:18] <nexus6> alienseer23, i agree with BazziR
[11:18] <krimzon> hm... it's a bit clunky but i suppose i have a spare wireless access point that i could set up wep
[11:18] <onkarshinde> redondo81: command 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[11:18] <^elica^> hai
[11:18] <redondo81> ok, I try now
[11:19] <alienseer23> baz, the bundled ones with my gforce glx install are for newer nfoce, I need the legacy for my motherboard
[11:19] <alienseer23> but I don't use onboard sound or ethernet
[11:19] <onkarshinde> FloK: Sure there is users group. But the default use template in Ubuntu creates a different group for every user by username.
[11:19] <alienseer23> wondered if that was all that was installed thru that
[11:19] <alienseer23> I assumed there was more to it
[11:19] <^elica^> gfylo
[11:20] <BazziR> alienseer23: usually, you don't need to install it AT ALL.
[11:20] <BazziR> just the graphics drivers for 3d acceleration
[11:20] <alienseer23> k
[11:20] <cry0gen> damnit
[11:20] <TheMoebius> ok so the other thing is the app I'm trying to compile (cdemu) is saying that I need at least version 2.6.16 of the kernel sources (I assume I'm running that version?) but when I install the linux-source package it installs version 2.6.15?
[11:20] <FloK> onkarshinde, ok now i see the users group.
[11:20] <cry0gen> any of you have the networkmanager working ?
[11:20] <BazziR> but not from nvidia either, since ubuntu has them (nivida-glx-legacy or so if needed)
[11:20] <^elica^> ggrg
[11:20] <cry0gen> It wont connect to any of the wireless networks I select
[11:21] <alienseer23> wondered if that might have anything to do with the tv not being able to work
[11:21] <BazziR> TheMoebius: yep ubuntu is on 2.6.15
[11:21] <apprentice> soon ubuntu 2000.1.14
[11:21] <alienseer23> so the ones from nv are the exact same, I thought so , someone tried to tell me they were not
[11:21] <apprentice> now with windows support for blue screen of dearh
[11:22] <onkarshinde> TheMoebius: Install somewhat older version
[11:23] <alienseer23> still, not having my cpu detected is bugging me
[11:23] <BazziR> not having your cpu detected? huh?
[11:23] <alienseer23> should switching kernels fix that nd possably other issues as well?
[11:23] <BazziR> nopaste a cat /proc/cpuinfo please
[11:23] <alienseer23> it canot read what it is, has no info whatsoever on it
[11:24] <ripple> jamesM, hey buddy.. good news a little bit .. of good news
[11:24] <arm73c05> i have no audio in firefox, namely flash.  i appear to be using ESD.  anyone know what might be wrong?
[11:24] <alienseer23> there it is!
[11:24] <onkarshinde> !tell arm73c05 about flash
[11:25] <GazzaK> Hi, can I create a printer to print to pdf?
[11:25] <cooldude007> i successfully installed ubuntu on my dell e1705 a few hours back
[11:25] <alienseer23> I cannot paste on a diferent comp in here
[11:25] <arm73c05> thank you onkarshinde.  :)
[11:25] <BazziR> alienseer23: nopaste :)
[11:25] <alienseer23> what is that>?
[11:25] <BazziR> see pastebin in url
[11:25] <cooldude007> however, i am a bit unhappy abt not having the multi card readerto work
[11:25] <BazziR> err in topic
[11:25] <alienseer23> ah
[11:25] <ripple> jamesM, I did the reinstall finished the thread and there is new life in the wireless card.
[11:26] <onkarshinde> cooldude007: Can't help it. No specs are available for most of the card readers
[11:26] <alienseer23> wit, brb
[11:26] <cooldude007> anyone knows how to get the entire laptop to function, just like it does on the OS from redmond?
[11:26] <alienseer23> gonna switch comps in here
[11:26] <cooldude007> onkar... could u pls tell me how to get my screen resolution to be widescreen?
[11:26] <klm-> what's the best videoediting tool for ubuntu?
[11:26] <krimzon> hm, it doesn't seem to connect to any wireless network whatsoever
[11:26] <cooldude007> it goes only up to 1600x1200
[11:26] <onkarshinde> cooldude007: Which graphics card?
[11:27] <cooldude007> in windows it goes 1920x1280
[11:27] <cooldude007> intel 980m
[11:27] <cooldude007> cheapo card
[11:27] <krimzon> is there any way i could download the packages on windows and copy them over?
[11:27] <Madpilot> cooldude007, have you seen http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto yet?
[11:27] <FloK> how to scp a file to ie. /etc from a non ubuntu box? i mean i cant login as root and as user i have no permission to write in /etc
[11:27] <cooldude007> no MP
[11:27] <alienseer23> back
[11:28] <cooldude007> i will take a look now after this session with #ubuntu
[11:28] <onkarshinde> Madpilot: does 915resolution work with that card?
[11:28] <alienseer23> hello again
[11:28] <Madpilot> onkarshinde, no idea, I know zip about laptops
[11:29] <cooldude007> it works on widnows
[11:29] <cooldude007> btw, on windows i needed a lot of drivers that needed downloading from dell site
[11:29] <cooldude007> do i need anything like that on ubuntu?
[11:29] <onkarshinde> cooldude007: You should try installing 915resolution package.
[11:29] <cooldude007> i see
[11:29] <alienseer23> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20051
[11:30] <LMJ_Work> Hello the chan
[11:30] <cooldude007> my system is dualboot now... just like MP suggested
[11:30] <cooldude007> is there a way to access ntfs partitions from ubuntu?
[11:31] <[b] urk> read: yes
[11:31] <LMJ_Work> I'm looking for the compile who catch automaticly ALL dependencies needed before start the compilation, it's something related to "dpkg", do you know what is it please ?
[11:31] <alienseer23> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20052         glx info
[11:31] <nexus6> krimzon, yes it is possible
[11:31] <nexus6> have a look at http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[11:31] <[b] urk> LMJ_Work, ./configure??
[11:31] <nexus6> download the package from there, and install it in ubuntu using the command "sudo dpkg -i package.deb"
[11:31] <LMJ_Work> no [b] urk ;)
[11:32] <micahcowan> !ntfs
[11:32] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[11:32] <[b] urk> LMJ_Work, what are you installing??
[11:32] <krimzon> ok
[11:32] <LMJ_Work> dpkg something or apt-get something
[11:32] <LMJ_Work> i can't remenber
[11:32] <ardchoille> LMJ_Work: sudo apt-get install app
[11:32] <cooldude007> thanks ubotu
[11:32] <cooldude007> i will have a look
[11:32] <LMJ_Work> i'm trying to compile a custom kernel
[11:33] <[b] urk> cooldude007, ubotu is a bot... :P
[11:33] <cooldude007> the community must pressurize dell to come out with linux packages for closed spec hardware like card readers
[11:33] <feydin> hi there, why isnt lufs-cryptofs anymore available in dapper?
[11:33] <[b] urk> LMJ_Work, kernels dont depend on much
[11:33] <cooldude007> so is Marwin burk
[11:33] <alienseer23> 0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AGP (different version?) (rev a2)
[11:33] <LMJ_Work> since it's a fresh Ubuntu server, it missing gcc & co, there is a command provided with dpkg*  who check dependencies before compile and download/install them, it's great
[11:33] <cooldude007> and so am I
[11:33] <alienseer23> 0000:00:1e.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AGP (rev a2)
[11:33] <alienseer23> sorry
[11:33] <snoops> is there a way to get sound juicer to grab the cd track names from freedb server?
[11:34] <cooldude007> and bots have emotions
[11:34] <alienseer23> didn't know that would be so thick
[11:34] <cooldude007> :)
[11:34] <cooldude007> :P
[11:35] <alienseer23> man it's late
[11:35] <alienseer23> I have to work in about 4 hours, time to sleep
[11:36] <alienseer23> so, k7 or 686, which should suit my system better?
[11:36] <cooldude007> core duo
[11:36] <cooldude007> core 2 duo
[11:36] <alienseer23> ?
[11:36] <snoops> you'll want smp build regardless
[11:37] <ardchoille> alienseer23: You'll get all the sleep you need when you're dead
[11:37] <alienseer23> nice
[11:37] <cooldude007> ardchoille.. r u so sure?
[11:37] <alienseer23> i'm head cook tomarrow, i think i should die for a bit tonight :)
[11:37] <micahcowan> Could do like Amelie's comatose neighbor... get all your sleep in one fell swoop. :-)
[11:37] <snoops> whoops, wires crossed.. two people :/
[11:37] <cooldude007> what if the rela work starts after that and this was a sleep
[11:38] <cooldude007> what if the real work starts after that and this was a sleep
[11:38] <alienseer23> what if this is just an acid dream and I am still in high school?
[11:38] <nexus6> alienseer23, enjoy the trip while it lasts i say!
[11:38] <cooldude007> that's called optimism
[11:38] <alienseer23> lol
[11:38] <alienseer23> nice nice
[11:38] <Madpilot> People, #ubuntu-offtopic is thataway ----->
[11:38] <nexus6> so sleeping would definitely be the wrong joice
[11:38] <nexus6> choice i mean
[11:38] <cooldude007> but u r the seer
[11:38] <nexus6> o_o
[11:38] <micahcowan> it would suck to wake up from a hard day's work to discover you've got a hard day's work ahead of you... that's actually happened to me once or twice.
[11:39] <Seveas> micahcowan, #ubuntu-offtopic please
[11:39] <micahcowan> yeah, sorry. Missed Madpilot's...
[11:39] <feydin> is there another way to get a remote fs mountet instead of lufs?
[11:40] <micahcowan> nfs?
[11:40] <cooldude007> hey it says this is official ubuntu support channel... so pros from canonical are roaming around here?
[11:40] <feydin> i only got ssh access
[11:40] <alienseer23> I am thinking since the kernel is cpu dependant, and the cpu is motherboard dependant, that the kernel effects the motherboard as well???
[11:40] <Seveas> cooldude007, yes
[11:40] <cooldude007> i see... great... thanks for everything
[11:40] <colo> alienseer23: no, it does not
[11:40] <Seveas> alienseer23, the kernel interacts with all hardware
[11:40] <colo> please, install linux-image-k7
[11:40] <cooldude007> i am off... let me read the sites yu mentioned
[11:40] <Seveas> mobo, cards, proc, mem...
[11:40] <cooldude007> bbye all
[11:40] <colo> and don't think about it all too much
[11:41] <cooldude007> have a good one
[11:41] <micahcowan> feydin, well... you could use virtual ssh fs through fuse... I think that's the only way you could "mount" something over ssh...
[11:41] <Seveas> micahcowan, sshfs is neat
[11:41] <feydin> micahcowan, hmhm ok... lufs seems to be nice, but in dapper tehre is no more lufs-cryptofs
[11:41] <micahcowan> Seveas, never used it. Always wanted to...
[11:42] <alienseer23> ok, one last question, why does it say 686 in my hardware device manager. if k7 is the good one for me? and I promise o nit think after that untill I try to figgure out tv
[11:42] <ripple> jamesM, hey buddy.. good news a little bit .. of good news
[11:42] <Ademan> anyone here use 56k? (specifically AOL, i know, its godawful but my girlfriend's mother thinks its great)
[11:42] <micahcowan> ouch
[11:42] <wthww_> Ademan i kind ado
[11:43] <wthww_> Ademan, in not on aol. but i have 56k
[11:43] <Ademan> eh good enough hopefully
[11:43] <Ademan> because i think my problem is less with AOL and more with 56k
[11:44] <DrFinn> Hello! I need some help with this : at bootup at the Ubuntu login screen I have a higher resolution and lower refresh rate than the default desktop resolution I use ..how can I correct this?
[11:44] <wthww_> my isp buys their bandwidth from aol
[11:44] <wthww_> and uses thr sam numbers so
[11:45] <wthww_> lol... was that a bot flood?
[11:45] <ThunderStruck> thats all of them
[11:45] <Madpilot> wthww_, it was an attempted bot flood :)
[11:45] <micahcowan> wthww_, no, it was about to be. :-)
[11:45] <ThunderStruck> or not
[11:45] <wthww_> :P
[11:45] <wthww_> lol.
[11:45] <DrFinn> Hello! I need some help with this : at bootup at the Ubuntu login screen I have a higher resolution and lower refresh rate than the default desktop resolution I use ..how can I correct this?
[11:45] <wthww_> not very smrat though. all the same ip addy
[11:45] <wthww_> lol
[11:45] <Ademan> in System->networking  the properties of the modem device, what should be the modem port? under the modem tab?  i can/t set it to /dev/modem and nothing else "works" it just won't dial, i assumed it would dial when i tried to enable the connection or set it as primary
[11:45] <Seveas> odd that freenode allows so much per ip
[11:45] <Seveas> nalioth, prod --^
[11:46] <wthww_> lol
[11:46] <micahcowan> wthww_, well, plus, when a dozen show up in the same couple seconds...
[11:46] <wthww_> yeah
[11:46] <feugan3333> Hi all. Does anyone know of a way to save a embedded flash movie to your hard drive?
[11:46] <ripple> does anyone know how to fix my wireless connection turning on and off randomly??
[11:46] <nexus6> feugan3333, there is a firefox plugin for that
[11:47] <nexus6> it's called "download embedded" afair
[11:47] <LMJ_Work> so, no idea about this magic command to find & download & install all dependencies before compile by hand some sources ?
[11:47] <nexus6> LMJ_Work, try "sudo apt-get build-dep packagename"
[11:47] <feugan3333> nexus6: Thanks I'll take a look
[11:47] <Ademan> wthww_: see my message above?  make any sense at all?
[11:47] <nexus6> if thats what you mean
[11:48] <alienseer23> ok,. i'm out, thank you for your help and attention :)
[11:48] <alienseer23> gonna do sme reading on ubuntu hacks
[11:49] <ripple> yeah not my wireless connection comes on for a few seconds then turn off again..
[11:49] <LMJ_Work> seems NICE nexus6
[11:49] <krimzon> i've installed network manager now :)
[11:50] <micahcowan> LMJ_Work, if there's no package available, I think auto-apt might do (never used it).
[11:50] <LMJ_Work> thanks micahcowan
[11:51] <lillpelle> Seveas: well, there can be many people on the same computer. At our work we are ~ 200 people on 2 servers. I don't know how many are on the irc nets though...
[11:51] <nexus6> krimzon, any success yet joining a wireless lan?
[11:51] <Seveas> lillpelle, freenode usually forbids many connections per ip
[11:51] <krimzon> what do i do now that it's installed?
[11:52] <krimzon> just try joining as before?
[11:52] <ishorseman> in the help menu what does "Translate this Application" do ?
[11:52] <krimzon> i read somewhere that neetwork manager wants parts of /etc/network/interfaces commented out, but i havent done anything yet
[11:52] <Seveas> ishorseman, it sends you to rosetta where you can translate the program
[11:53] <Seveas> krimzon, you should not specifically configure your wireless card beyond 'iface wlan0 dhcp'
[11:53] <eps> this is from dmesg after plugging in a spca5xx web cam (everything else loads right, the programs trying to use it say it is busy)
[11:53] <Seveas> (or eth1 etc...)
[11:53] <eps> #
[11:53] <eps> [17181959.012000]  drivers/usb/media/spca5xx/spca5xx-main.c: usb_submit_urb() ret -19
[11:53] <ripple> krimzon, will that cause your connection to go on and off trying to connect?
[11:53] <eps> suggestions? using 6.06 current
[11:54] <krimzon> uh, go on and off?
[11:54] <ripple> well, i know this is not very clear, but i just solved the BCM4306 card problem
[11:55] <ripple> at least it turns on now, and is recognized
[11:55] <krimzon> my /etc/network/interfaces seems to be ok then
[11:55] <ripple> krimzon, but it just wont make the connection, i switched the WEP off also no security
[11:55] <ishorseman> Seveas like from english to spanish of from gnome to KDE
[11:56] <rpedro> what exactly is someone supposed to do when they get a 'device busy' message when trying to unmount a cd? I've tried 'lsof /media/cdrom0' but I just get nautilus locking the mount when there are no nautilus windows open... :-?
[11:56] <Seveas> ishorseman, the former
[11:56] <nalpha> cannot access `/opt/fedora-ds/bin/slapd/authck' why???
[11:56] <eps> rpedro umount /device -fl     (f is force, l is lazy)
[11:56] <ishorseman> Seveas thanks
[11:56] <Seveas> nalpha, #fedora is that way ---->
[11:56] <rpedro> eps: ok, will try thx
[11:56] <eps> rpedro note that anything could be causing it to still be open, check if anything is accessing it including music programs?
[11:56] <nalpha> yah i know.. but no answer from there so  i ask here... ^^
[11:56] <frogzoo> nalpha: is this a fedore or ubuntu box?
[11:57] <frogzoo> nalpha: people here won't have any idea
[11:57] <eps> also for your notes, lazy means it will do it when it's free and can take a few seconds some times (and isn't advised to be used all the time)
[11:57] <rpedro> eps: lsof reports just a nautilus process locking some folder
[11:57] <ripple> maybe it's just turning on to scan for networks and it does not see my network?
[11:58] <eps> rpedro killall nautilus then...or at least that's what I'd do :P ...clean out any locks
[11:58] <hume> anyone here got bibus working with dapper?
[12:00] <krimzon> ahah, i nearly have it working i think
[12:00] <nalpha> Seveas i'm asking fedora directory server on ubuntu not fedora linux.
[12:00] <hume> krimzon, nearly?
[12:00] <krimzon> how do i get nm-applet to run without constantly having a terminal window up?
[12:00] <Seveas> nalpha, I think I can safely say that fedora-ds experience in here is close to zero
[12:00] <Ng> krimzon: hit alt-f2 to get a run command window and run it from there
[12:00] <sovieticool> hy all
[12:00] <krimzon> ahh :)
[12:01] <sovieticool> i have a little pro
[12:01] <sovieticool> i just install x-chat and i don't see the list of users :(
[12:01] <nalpha> btw please don't just act like that it's annoying me...
[12:01] <sovieticool> i must hit ctrl and + to see some
[12:01] <Seveas> nalpha, likewise
[12:01] <krimzon> yay, it's working
[12:02] <Madpilot> sovieticool, XChat or XChat-Gnome?
[12:02] <strangy> sovieticool: CTRL + U if it is xchat-gnome
[12:02] <krimzon> thanks everyone :)
[12:02] <nalpha> ok i'm sorry for that
[12:02] <AnAnt> what's 6.06.1 ?
[12:02] <nexus6> krimzon, have fun :)
[12:02] <tcpip> my pppoe connection is not stable in 6.06.. please help
[12:03] <sovieticool> XChat-Gnome
[12:03] <strangy> sovieticool: than it's ctrl + u
[12:03] <ghmsr1> tu quen eres
[12:03] <sovieticool> how to update ro xchat official
[12:04] <Seveas> ghmsr1, english please
[12:04] <sovieticool> not gnome version
[12:04] <Seveas> sovieticool, apt-get install xchat
[12:04] <Madpilot> sovieticool, if you want the older (better) real XChat, it's in the Universe repo
[12:04] <sovieticool> :(
[12:04] <ghmsr1> dime tu nombre
[12:04] <Madpilot> !es
[12:04] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:04] <tcpip> !pppoe
[12:04] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[12:04] <strangy> !hr
[12:04] <ubotu> za hrvatski dodjite na #ubuntu-hr, da ne zbunjujete engleze.
[12:04] <nalpha> there is channel ubuntu for indonesian???
[12:05] <sovieticool> Seveas: not work :(
[12:05] <micahcowan> after having edited /etc/group... is there anyway to get that group added to current session identity on terminal emulator without logging completely out/in again?
[12:05] <Seveas> !doesn't work
[12:05] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[12:05] <micahcowan> *any way
[12:05] <Seveas> micahcowan, no
[12:05] <Madpilot> sovieticool, you need to enable the Universe repository
[12:05] <ripple_> can anyone help me with a BCM4306 connection
[12:05] <micahcowan> :(
[12:05] <Seveas> !anyone > ripple_
[12:05] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell sovieticool about universe
[12:06] <freebse> sovieticool: apt-get update, apt-get install xchat ... plz read this first: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html
[12:06] <ripple_> thanks
[12:06] <ripple_> finally got this WIFI regoc. and it's blinkin on and off like a lightswitch
[12:06] <CheetahMk2> How do I upgrade my kernel image? Just run Synaptic and install the 686 package
[12:07] <CheetahMk2> can I uninstall the old one, or do I need to keep it?
[12:07] <IAskew> u need to keep it CheetahMk2
[12:07] <CheetahMk2> Even after I install the new one?
[12:07] <IAskew> find the appropriate image and apply
[12:07] <IAskew> yes CheetahMk2 it will create 2 entries in grub
[12:08] <CheetahMk2> do I have to do anything else after installing it from synaptic to activate it?
[12:08] <IAskew> no, just reboot and pick the top (686) image
[12:09] <ripple_> is there a way to connect to a linksys WIFI router?
[12:09] <Hobbsee> Ci2azy: please dont do that
[12:09] <tcpip> can anyone help me.. i setted up my internet connection.. and when i do 'ifconfig' it shows me multiple ppp(0/1/2/3/4) connections..
[12:10] <Olathe> Ci2azy is a lamer (DCC spaces exploit)
[12:10] <BeepAU> hey everyone, i know i've asked about this before, but i need to know. I accidently deleted the system tray icon for kmess, does anyone know how to bring it back?
[12:10] <tcpip> none of them stay for more than 3 mins or something
[12:10] <frogzoo> tcpip: something wrong there...
[12:10] <psiborg> relaxed ci2azy...
[12:10] <IAskew> wtf
[12:10] <LadyNikon> jesus
[12:10] <Dodzey> heh..he just tried to send me a file name "a a a a a a a a a " etc etc
[12:10] <IAskew> me too
[12:10] <LadyNikon> you go into a linux channel.. and use a Mirc exploit
[12:10] <Boglizk> newb exploiter
[12:10] <LadyNikon> what a moron
[12:10] <cef> same
[12:10] <rob> yep
[12:10] <danielnuyu> Ci2aaay or something
[12:11] <LadyNikon> danielnuyu: yeah he was klined by freenode
[12:11] <tcpip> frogzoo: the connections are not stable for some reason.. it reconnects or something
[12:11] <rob> that was a mirc exploit, rather useless on this network :)
[12:11] <Whatsisname> lol what was that supposed to do, whatever he was doing?
[12:11] <danielnuyu> k cool
[12:11] <rixth> It was likely a bot, though, maybe a drone, so why would you ban the IP?
[12:11] <feugan3333> lol
[12:11] <LadyNikon> rixth: because that what you do
[12:11] <LadyNikon> he will come back
[12:11] <LadyNikon> but .. gotta do something
[12:12] <sishgupta> he tried to send me that too
[12:12] <rixth> LadyNikon, so we are barring that IP from coming on to Freenode? Well, that is hospitable. In all likelyhood, that user had no idea he was infected.
[12:12] <mwe> can't you configure xchat to ignore all dcc ?
[12:12] <tcpip> frogzoo: how to restrict to dial only one ppp connection?
[12:12] <LadyNikon> rixth: so what do we do.. nothing.. because someone let their IP get hijacked?
[12:12] <Luke> does anyone know what those bars along the bottom of a mac are called?
[12:13] <frogzoo> rixth: I believe the kill tables get cleaned out pretty regularly, so it's not permanent
[12:13] <rixth> LadyNikon, let the k line handle it.
[12:13] <sovieticool> ups :)
[12:13] <BeepAU> hey everyone, i know i've asked about this before, but i need to know. I accidently deleted the system tray icon for kmess, does anyone know how to bring it back?
[12:13] <rixth> frogzoo, exactly. No need for per-channels bans.
[12:13] <LadyNikon> rixth: it did
[12:13] <frogzoo> tcpip: open connection #1 - tries to connect, fails - tries to connect again, ppp still open for some reason, so uses ppp #2 & on it goes - you need to find why the connection is only half opening
[12:14] <rixth> LadyNikon, gnomefreak also did a channel ban
[12:14] <LadyNikon> Luke: the dock
[12:14] <LadyNikon> rixth: yep.. to keep him from coming back
[12:14] <Luke> LadyNikon: thanks
[12:14] <LadyNikon> Luke: np
[12:14] <rixth> LadyNikon, but he was klined... so they point was?
[12:14] <LadyNikon> rixth: probably didnt know he was gonna get k-lined.
[12:14] <frogzoo> rixth: the channel bans seem a little harsh, but it's one reason why this channel isn't total anarchy - it's a difficult compromise
[12:15] <LadyNikon> if you dont kick him out of the channel the bot cant do a /list
[12:15] <rixth> Open Source is all about knowledge belongs to everyone, so who are you to deny it to this person?
[12:15] <ripple_> frogzoo, does that have anything to do with my WIFI not connecting properly
[12:15] <tcpip> frogzoo: how do i find something like that?
[12:15] <LadyNikon> and he is back
[12:15] <LadyNikon> rixth: what ever.
[12:15] <rixth> LadyNikon, he was banned about 50 seconds after being k-lined.
[12:15] <Luke> does anyone know of a good mac-like doc for linux?
[12:15] <sovieticool> cool
[12:15] <LadyNikon> rixth: so we just let ourselves get bombarded
[12:15] <sovieticool> Seveas, i done it :)
[12:15] <frogzoo> ripple_: I doubt it - wifi doesn't use ppp
[12:15] <rixth> LadyNikon, no, we let the ircd do it.
[12:16] <LadyNikon> rixth: well it didnt do its job
[12:16] <sovieticool> now i have a good xchat
[12:16] <rob> klines aren't always
[12:16] <LadyNikon> i just got the same moron msging me
[12:16] <rob> err permanent
[12:16] <ripple_> frogzoo, oh yeah.. i know.. sorry i knew that just getting my plugs in :(
[12:16] <rixth> Must be going via an open, non-blacklisted proxy.
[12:16] <LadyNikon> which makes people who want to be on this network want to leave because of crap like that
[12:16] <LadyNikon> besides.. you dont even know if the person is actually ever going to use the network
[12:17] <sovieticool> how i set the resolution of my samsung lcd monitor to 1280x1024?
[12:17] <LadyNikon> and there are ways for them to get it cleared up ie.. contacting freenoce
[12:17] <sovieticool> and 75 hz
[12:17] <LadyNikon> freenode*
[12:17] <rob> LadyNikon, what?
[12:17] <rixth> LadyNikon, and?
[12:17] <Davo_Dinkum> how do i open a file manager in fluxbox?
[12:17] <LadyNikon> rixth: and what?
[12:17] <rob> LadyNikon, cut out the trolling
[12:17] <rixth> rob, I'll stop too.
[12:17] <LadyNikon> rob: who is trolling? he asked a question.
[12:18] <ripple_> i see
[12:18] <LadyNikon> hi lilo
[12:19] <babo> anyone here use wengophone ?
[12:20] <BeepAU> hey everyone, i know i've asked about this before, but i need to know. I accidently deleted the system tray icon for kmess, does anyone know how to bring it back?
[12:20] <lilo> hi LadyNikon
[12:20] <mjr> babo, nah, but I have used ekiga, seems to work, except along with wengo :] 
[12:20] <sovieticool> can see somebody here and help me to set 1280x1024 rezolution ?
[12:20] <sovieticool> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20054
[12:20] <yacek19> hello
[12:20] <Davo_Dinkum> bye
[12:20] <babo> mjr: hmm, had a look at ekiga. The diamond.us website where you pay though, looks kinda dodgy ...
[12:20] <Luke> does anyone know of a good mac-like doc for linux?
[12:21] <mjr> babo, how so?
[12:21] <Seveas> Luke, there's one 'in the works', google for cairo-dock
[12:21] <mobilephoneapple> Luke > you can use gdesklets
[12:21] <babo> I dunno ... it's kinda ... hmmm ... green ....
[12:21] <ripple_> i just turned of my WIFI security... hey everybody free hot spot within one block of Engatoff Crest Saskatoon SK Canada
[12:21] <ripple_> just don't block my car in ok
[12:22] <krimzon> hmm... network manager keeps losing the connection
[12:22] <Luke> Seveas: that wouldn't be in your repo would it?
[12:22] <babo> what format do you enter landline numbers for the wengophone service ... ? ... needless to say, their user guide is crap
[12:22] <Luke> mobilephoneapple: i'll look at that thanks
[12:22] <Seveas> Luke, no
[12:23] <wthww_>  does anyone else have problems writing isos with dapper?
[12:23] <Luke> Seveas: do you have any resources where I can read about it
[12:23] <Blinker> sovieticool:  system > preferences > screen resolution?
[12:23] <Seveas> Luke, google 
[12:23] <gimmulf> tired of thoose freenode spammers tryin to send files
[12:23] <sovieticool> i do that
[12:23] <mjr> babo, well, I've made a couple of calls through diamondcard just fine
[12:23] <Blinker> not supported?
[12:23] <sovieticool> is limited to 1024x768
[12:23] <Luke> Seveas: well I mean, is that the official name?
[12:23] <mobilephoneapple> Luke > I'll check, wait one moment
[12:23] <Blinker> what card?
[12:23] <Seveas> Luke, yes
[12:23] <ardchoille> !xconfig
[12:23] <ubotu> xconfig is To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[12:24] <Luke> Seveas: wait I thought you said google cairo-dock =) not the command "you, google for cairo-dock" -sorry bout that =D
[12:24] <mobilephoneapple> http://gdesklets.org/
[12:24] <LadyNikon> heh but they may be people who we dont know who might want to use the network so lets do nothing..
[12:24] <Blinker> sovieticool: what kind of video card do you have?
[12:24] <sovieticool> nvidia gf 7800 gt
[12:25] <Blinker> sovieticool: and you've updated the drivers already?
[12:25] <LadyNikon> you know what we could do.. wis there a way to create a bot.. that finds out the persons IP company and someone reportsit
[12:25] <[nige] > anyone ever used fwbuilder ?
[12:25] <LadyNikon> lilo^
[12:25] <sovieticool> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20054
[12:25] <sovieticool> here is my xorg.conf
[12:25] <johlin> I have Ubuntu and Windows installed and now I need to reinstall Windows. I know that's going to remove grub. How do I reinstall it afterwards? I have config files and everything on a /boot partition
[12:26] <BeepAU> ok, i haven't been able to get any help bringing back the kmess icon, so is it possible i could remove kmess and all it's history and install it as if it wasn't installed before?
[12:26] <LadyNikon> johlin: rescue cd
[12:26] <johlin> LadyNikon: what rescue cd?
[12:26] <IAskew> BeepAU, what exactly is kmess?
[12:27] <LadyNikon> the new version of ubuntu has a "rescue" version on it i thought
[12:27] <wthww__> Is anyone else having problems with isos?
[12:27] <BeepAU> IAskew	-- it's a msn messenger clone.
[12:27] <LadyNikon> what it does is boots into your existing linux partition
[12:27] <wthww__> burningisos that is
[12:27] <IAskew> ahh i c thx beep
[12:27] <LadyNikon> then you can get into grub and redo it
[12:27] <Luke> Seveas: http://www.gnome-dock.org/ in case you must refer someone again
[12:27] <Seveas> Luke, gracias
[12:28] <Seveas> !gnome-dock is a MacOS X -like dock for the gnome desktop, see www.gnome-dock.org
[12:28] <ubotu> I'll remember that
[12:28] <Seveas> !cairo-dock is <alias> gnome-dock
[12:28] <ubotu> I'll remember that
[12:29] <sovieticool> how do i do a short restart ?
[12:29] <BeepAU> so, how do i remove all history of a application?
[12:30] <|BLaDE|> !info wine
[12:30] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB
[12:30] <|BLaDE|> ;)
[12:30] <LadyNikon> johlin: if that doesnt work get a linux cd and mount your /boot then get into your grub partition
[12:30] <|BLaDE|> thank you ubotu
[12:30] <harry> where can i get more ubuntu 6.06 themes
[12:30] <micahcowan> BeepAU, what application?
[12:30] <mormoloc> hello
[12:31] <DonLemmi> Hi, is there somewhere a howto which describes setting ubuntu up in a multi-user environment? Eg. i dont want the users to be able to start updates and stuff.
[12:31] <johlin> LadyNikon: I'll look for that rescue cd then
[12:31] <micahcowan> (oh, never mind)
[12:31] <BeepAU> micahcowan -- the application is kmess. i accidently deleted the system tray icon and i'm trying to get it back.
[12:31] <mormoloc> what this Error mean }error: pcre-config not found
[12:31] <IAskew> harry, dunno about ubuntu themes, but there are plenty of themes for gnome at gnome-look.org
[12:31] <micahcowan> wait... what's adding it to the system tray icon got to do with removing the app's history?
[12:31] <lostsync> harry, 'sudo apt-get install gnome-art' should be able to help you.  after install, click 'Art Manager' under System->Preferences menu
[12:32] <vaz> hello I m using a widcomm bluetooth device on my acer aspire 5562 but it does not show in device list
[12:32] <ardchoille> BeepAU: Right-click on the panel, choose "add to panel".. in the add to panel dialog, look for the notification area applet and drag it to the panel.
[12:32] <vaz> can someone help me
[12:32] <frogzoo> !helpme
[12:32] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:32] <yacek19> after upgraidng to the newest xorg, fonts in my kde become very small, how can I repair that?
[12:32] <frogzoo> vaz: we don't know yet
[12:32] <BeepAU> micahcowan -- i tried uninstalling it and re-installing it, but the os knew i used to have the program and restored my old settings.
[12:33] <mormoloc> what does "error: pcre-config not found" mean ? (any idea)
[12:33] <IAskew> did u delete the folder in your home dir BeepAU ?
[12:33] <ardchoille> BeepAU: uninstalling it won't delete the config files in your $HOME
[12:33] <micahcowan> gotcha.
[12:33] <freebse> yacek19: kcontrol and fonts
[12:33] <BeepAU> ardchoille -- i'm not trying to get a launcher for the program, i'm trying to get the interactive icon in the system tray back.
[12:34] <ardchoille> BeepAU: Right-click on the panel, choose "add to panel".. in the add to panel dialog, look for the notification area applet and drag it to the panel.
[12:34] <vaz> frogzoo: what was strange was it worked with Kubuntu and then i switched to Ubuntu
[12:34] <frogzoo> vaz: what does /var/log/messages say - is the device detected
[12:34] <ardchoille> BeepAU: Did you accidentally remove the notification area from the panel?
[12:34] <BeepAU> ardchoille -- haha, thankyou so much!
[12:34] <ardchoille> :)
[12:36] <Dodzey> is there any way to modify Gnome so certain windows only maximise to a sertain size (like mac os x behaviour)
[12:36] <Dodzey> certain*
[12:36] <BeepAU> ardchoille -- i don't supose you'd know how to change the icon of a second volume control, which is what i was trying to do when i accidently deleted the notification area, would you?
[12:36] <IAskew> (i know this channel advises against it but) ive just used automatix to load all codecs, should i revert to my orignal sources.list or stick with the new one automatix generated?
[12:36] <vaz> frogzoo: what am I supposed to be looking for?
[12:36] <ardchoille> BeepAU: No, both volume controls would use the same icon, AFAIK
[12:37] <sishgupta> this is balls i want a gfx card that will run xgl
[12:37] <ardchoille> since they're the same applet
[12:37] <Dodzey> sishgupta: just thank god your not trying to run vista :-D you'd have even more trouble
[12:37] <BeepAU> ardchoille -- hmm, i was hoping to have one for the master and one for the headphone, but would like to be able to tell the difference at a glance.
[12:37] <krimzon> can someone help me with network manager constanltly dropping the wireless connection?
[12:37] <sishgupta> haha for sure
[12:38] <krimzon> is it telling my card to run in the lowest power mode or something?
[12:38] <ardchoille> BeepAU: How many panels do you have?
[12:38] <sishgupta> i had that problem too krimzon
[12:38] <sishgupta> what type of encryption are you using
[12:38] <krimzon> wpa-psk
[12:38] <BeepAU> ardchoille -- i have one at the top and one at the bottom.
[12:38] <sishgupta> i had to download the new version of network manager and make install it
[12:38] <ardchoille> BeepAU: Maybe put the Master on the top panel and the headphone on the bottom panel? That's all I can think of.
[12:39] <sishgupta> now wpa/wpa2 doesnt drop
[12:39] <Blinker> oh yeah, that reminds me. how do you set up ubuntu to use WPA?
[12:39] <sishgupta> network manager
[12:39] <krimzon> how did you do that?
[12:39] <BeepAU> ardchoille -- i guess i could do that.
[12:39] <sishgupta> ill get a link for the source
[12:40] <sishgupta> http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/
[12:40] <sishgupta> download the tarball, ./configure, make, sudo make install
[12:40] <krimzon> thanks
[12:40] <sishgupta> i dont know if it will fix your problem for sure but it did the trick for me
[12:40] <sishgupta> what card are you using?
[12:41] <krimzon> netgear wg311t
[12:43] <mwe> network manager handles wpa too?
[12:43] <krimzon> arg, need to install some compilers and the like
[12:43] <Blinker> mornin' mwe
[12:44] <sishgupta> it uses wpa_supplicant
[12:44] <mwe> Blinker: hi
[12:44] <gandalfcome> I installed mysql, apache and phpmyadmin on my machine. now i try to login to phpmyadmin and tried my normal login and the root account, both don't work. What's the default account that comes with mysql? please help.
[12:44] <sishgupta> yeah youll have to install a few libs too
[12:44] <lostsync> here's one.  using xfwm4 as my wm in gnome, i've just figured out how to use it's native compositing.  the drop shadows look quite nice, but now 'sudo anygtkapp /some/config/file' fails to properly execute.  gksudo does the same, only actually gives errors [GnomeUI WARNING **: etc]  instead of just going back to the prompt.
[12:44] <sishgupta> just google em
[12:44] <BazziR> gandalfcome: root w/o password is default
[12:45] <gandalfcome> thanks bazzir
[12:45] <mwe> gandalfcome: by default the root account doesn't have a password. that's the first thing you should do, set a root pw
[12:45] <vaz> -u root password mysql
[12:45] <vaz> that is default
[12:46] <mwe> there is no password for root by default in mysql
[12:46] <lostsync> yea it's just blank
[12:46] <Blinker> yikes.
[12:46] <BazziR> well I thought it was the root password at first as well
[12:46] <mormoloc> cant find libpcre3-dev in synaptic, is there another way to install it?
[12:46] <BazziR> so I was "WTF?" when I discovered an empty pw is used
[12:46] <krimzon> "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"
[12:47] <lostsync> same here BazziR
[12:47] <sishgupta> search for libpcre3 on google
[12:47] <vaz> is rfcomm IR or bluetooth
[12:47] <mwe> gandalfcome: maybe you should make it work with the mysql client before fiddling with phpmysql
[12:47] <krimzon> what does that mean i have to do?
[12:47] <gandalfcome> its alright i logged in to phpmyadmin
[12:47] <Ng> krimzon: have you installed the build-essential package?
[12:47] <gandalfcome> can I change the root pwd there
[12:47] <Blinker> sishgupta: do you know if network manager 0.6 is pretty stable?
[12:48] <gandalfcome> or do i have to fiddle around with commandline client?
[12:48] <krimzon> ahh, nope. i just installed every single gcc i could find
[12:48] <BazziR> you can change it there
[12:48] <sishgupta> .64 is crazy stable
[12:48] <lostsync> man im gonna be in trouble today...gf came in here at 5am wondering why i never made it to bed and not really caring about compositing engines...now it's almost 7am and im still here :x
[12:48] <Blinker> good deal
[12:48] <mwe> gandalfcome: just do it from the client like the documentation recomends
[12:48] <sishgupta> err 0.6.4
[12:48] <Xera> i'm having problems with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP when i goto localhost it asks me if i want to download index.php, and i don't know what to do to fix this :/
[12:48] <DragonSoldier> Hey does anybody no how to play dvd's on Ubuntu? I been trying all night.
[12:48] <mormoloc> sishgupta: found the .deb package but it gives another error ("libprec3 not found")
[12:49] <gandalfcome> ok
[12:49] <Blinker> !easyubuntu
[12:49] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[12:49] <sishgupta> do you have libprec3 installed?
[12:49] <ardchoille> !RestrictedFormats
[12:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:49] <mormoloc> sishgupta: yep
[12:49] <mormoloc> :(
[12:49] <Blinker> DragonSoldier: use that and it should help you out
[12:49] <krimzon> ahh, working
[12:49] <sishgupta> you might be using a different version of the lib for the dev stuff. dunno though
[12:49] <sishgupta> look for source libs
[12:49] <sishgupta> not a dev
[12:49] <sishgupta> err dep
[12:50] <sishgupta> err
[12:50] <power1> hey all, I have just moved an ubuntu server hard drive from one pc to the next, all is working except network card, I can see that the correct module is being probed , but when i do a networking restart it says unknown card or something to that effect..any ideas.
[12:50] <sishgupta> deb
[12:50] <sishgupta> haha
[12:50] <krimzon> perl module is required for intltool
[12:50] <mwe> gandalfcome: do me a favor and read this http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/default-privileges.html please. it's a good short description of how to do it all
[12:50] <gandalfcome> thanks
[12:51] <mwe> yw
[12:51] <krimzon> what do i install to fix that?
[12:51] <DragonSoldier> thnx
[12:51] <babo> what's the command that shows you your IPTABLES policy in command line form ... ( not iptables -L )
[12:52] <sishgupta> id have to read the readme cuz i forget but check what the dependencies are and make sure you have em
[12:52] <Blinker> DragonSoldier: did that fix it?
[12:52] <sishgupta> the dependencies should be in readme or install
[12:52] <DragonSoldier> working on it thnx
[12:52] <mwe> babo: well sudo iptables -L is supposed to do just that
[12:52] <Blinker> DragonSoldier: k, gl and yw
[12:52] <Blinker> just let us know if you need any more help
[12:53] <mwe> babo: why don't you want to use iptables -L ?
[12:53] <babo> mwe: no, it shows you what your iptables commands are. I want to know what he iptables recepies are ... so I can just retype the exact commands in again ...
[12:53] <mwe> babo: oh
[12:53] <babo> err ... dunno if that makes any sense ...
[12:54] <sovieticool> #backup
[12:54] <sovieticool> !backup
[12:54] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[12:54] <cyphase> If you don't know about it: http://qunu.com/
[12:54] <mwe> babo: iptables-save I think it is
[12:54] <cyphase> A tech help site via Jabber
[12:55] <DragonSoldier> Ok I have another question, ubuntu works great with the video card that is built in to the mother board, but I upgraded and got a Radeon 9800 PCI card, how do I get it to work?
[12:55] <babo> mwe: excellent thanks :-)
[12:55] <krimzon> hm, i dont know where to look to see any dependencies for building it
[12:55] <sishgupta> ok ill check hold on a bit
[12:57] <sishgupta> ah good point
[12:57] <sishgupta> i think what i did was run ./configure and then every time i didnt have a certain lib id type it into synaptic
[12:58] <babo> just one more thing ... I've forgotten how to suspend IPTABLES ... I just want to check whether my firewall could interfering with anything ...
[12:58] <mwe> babo: suspend?
[12:58] <mwe> babo: you mean flush the rules?
[12:58] <babo> mwe: no, just turn off iptables for a sec ...
[12:58] <mwe> babo: you can't unless you flush the rules
[12:59] <mwe> babo: then restore them
[12:59] <krimzon> hmm... i just dont know what i'm after right now... it says "perl module" but i have perl of some kind installed
[12:59] <babo> mwe: are you sure ?
[12:59] <mwe> babo: yes
[12:59] <AlexBO_> hello!how many GBs do i need for a classical desktop installation?
[12:59] <mwe> babo: I recommend using a front end like ip kungfu or firstarter
[12:59] <sishgupta> do you have intltool installed in synaptic?
[12:59] <mwe> babo: firestarter*
[12:59] <babo> mwe: yeah, I guess ...
[01:00] <babo> I've heard bad things about firestarter ...
[01:00] <krimzon>  nope :)
[01:00] <power1> hey all, I have just moved an ubuntu server hard drive from one pc to the next, all is working except network card, I can see that the correct module is being probed , but when i do a networking restart it says unknown card or something to that effect..any ideas.
[01:00] <mwe> babo: that way you /etc/init.d/firestarter stop to suspend it. then /etc/init.d/firestarter start to resume
[01:00] <IAskew> babo, firestarter works okhere
[01:00] <AlexBO_> HELLO!how many GBs do i need for a classical desktop installation?
[01:00] <mwe> babo: firestarter is really great I think
[01:01] <Seveas> AlexBO_, around 3 during install
[01:01] <babo> mwe: hmmm ... but that'll suspend firestarter ... which is only an iptables interface anyway right ?
[01:01] <mwe> babo: it set's up some very powerful rules. it would take ages to write something like that by hand
[01:01] <mwe> babo: it flushes the rules and saves them
[01:01] <noobie0057> how can I find out what my ip address is?
[01:01] <Seveas> noobie0057, ifconfig
[01:01] <mwe> babo: the start command restores them
[01:01] <babo> this is basically my input rules for my desktop ...
[01:01] <babo> -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT
[01:01] <babo> -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,ACK SYN -j DROP
[01:01] <noobie0057> thanks
[01:01] <sishgupta> your prolly gonna have to download like 7 dev packages or libs through synaptic to handle that ./configure haha
[01:02] <babo> works fine for me ....
[01:02] <AlexBO_> Seveas, well... 3 for classical installation. and then how many GBs for classical desktop user?
[01:02] <mwe> babo: so anything else is accepted?
[01:02] <AlexBO_> Seveas, ie... then you will install programs. how many average GBs you will use?
[01:02] <Seveas> AlexBO_, there is no such things as a 'classical desktop user'
[01:03] <mwe> babo: that's the most relaxed rule set I've seen :)
[01:03] <fyrestrtr> AlexBO_: depends on what programs you install.
[01:03] <AlexBO_> Seveas, yes I know, but for example: how many GBs have u occupied in your root directory? Because a friend of mine has got a 10 GB hard disk.She wants to install win xp and ubuntu both. can she do it?
[01:04] <Seveas> lilo, could you please stop splitting the net ;)
[01:04] <babo> mwe: hmm ... well I guess basically it means that you can't come in if you're not invited ..
[01:04] <Sean1> would anyone have any idea why my Add/Remove Applications menu item would be gone?
[01:04] <Seveas> AlexBO_, I would not recommend it, 5gb is very small for both linux and xp
[01:04] <mcphail> Why is there no linux-headers package available for my kernel (2.6.15-26-k7)?
[01:05] <mwe> babo: um but any related trafic is accepted for example. that could easily be exploited
[01:05] <Seveas> !info linux-headers-2.6.15-26-k7
[01:05] <ubotu> linux-headers-2.6.15-26-k7: Linux kernel headers 2.6.15 on AMD K7 SMP/UP. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.6.15-26.46 (dapper), package size 837 kB, installed size 22844 kB
[01:05] <Seveas> mcphail, ...
[01:05] <krimzon> now i need wireless-tools 28pre9
[01:05] <AlexBO_> Seveas, not 5GB, 10 GB
[01:05] <sishgupta> !info
[01:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about info - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:05] <Seveas> AlexBO_, that would equate to 5gb for each
[01:05] <Seveas> which is rather small
[01:05] <mcphail> Seveas: not when i apt-cache search, even after update...
[01:05] <mwe> babo: however nothing is listening by default anyway so there is not much need for a firewall anyway
[01:05] <sishgupta> !info Network-Manager
[01:05] <ubotu> Package Network-Manager does not exist in dapper
[01:05] <AlexBO_> Seveas, well... it's quite impossible
[01:06] <sishgupta> !info NetworkManager
[01:06] <ubotu> Package NetworkManager does not exist in dapper
[01:06] <AlexBO_> Seveas, ok thanks. i will think about it.bye
[01:06] <Seveas> mcphail, then fix your sources.list
[01:06] <Seveas> sishgupta, network-manager
[01:06] <fyrestrtr> !easysource > mcphail
[01:06] <sishgupta> oh
[01:06] <sishgupta> thanks lol
[01:06] <sishgupta> !info network-manager
[01:06] <ubotu> network-manager: network management framework (daemon). In repository main, is optional. Version 0.6.2-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 532 kB
[01:06] <babo> mwe: well yes, exactly.
[01:06] <mcphail> Seveas: i have, but recently switched to the dutch repos having had difficulty with the british ones. Do you think this could be the problem?
[01:07] <Seveas> mcphail, ubgtu uses the dutch repos to check
[01:07] <Seveas> mcphail, I'm guessing you miss dapper-security/main
[01:07] <mcphail> Seveas: i'll check again
[01:07] <mwe> babo: so basically I'd say don't bother unless you run a service you want to restrict in some way not provided by the daemon
[01:07] <babo> I guess you really don't need a firewall anyways ...
[01:08] <mwe> babo: not except my above comment I think
[01:08] <babo> mwe: can you help me troubleshoot a sound problem with wengophone ?
[01:09] <no0tic> I've a font problem with scilab
[01:09] <no0tic> it uses an unreadable font...
[01:09] <fyrestrtr> mcphail: did you run apt-get update after you switched?
[01:10] <mwe> babo: I'm not a sound expert. crimsun is I think. I don't know if he's around though
[01:11] <p0m> Anyone here interested in helping me with an interesting keyboard issue?
[01:11] <babo> mwe: cool ... I dunno ... it might be something obvious that I'm not thinking of ...
[01:12] <cowmilk> Hello, everyone. My goal: get the latest dev build of gpodder. My problem; following instructions on how to get latest build does not get the latest dev build, but an older dev build. My request of you: help!
[01:12] <babo> Sound works fine... and I can hear the background noise. And I can dial the telephone number. But I just don't hear any ringing or speaking ... :-(
[01:12] <mwe> babo: is it a general sound problem or just in that program?
[01:12] <cowmilk> According to the downloads page (http://perli.net/projekte/gpodder/downloads.html) , I can get the latest development version of gpodder by doing: svn co http://svn.berlios.de/svnroot/repos/gpodder/trunk gpodder
[01:12] <cowmilk> According to the ChangeLog (http://svn.berlios.de/svnroot/repos/gpodder/trunk/ChangeLog),  the latest development version is Monday, August 7.
[01:12] <babo> mwe: just wengo ... but they don't seem to have any troubleshooting docs ... :-(
[01:12] <cowmilk> When I now open gpodder, i get this screen: gPodder development version 0.8.0+svn20060730
[01:12] <itsanup> hello guys
[01:13] <itsanup> i need help setting up Samba , i want other computers in my domain to be able to access my Printer......
[01:13] <cowmilk> The window should say: gPodder development version 0.8.0+svn20060807
[01:13] <p0m> According to Xev it's the same key.
[01:13] <p0m> Er.
[01:13] <p0m> Wrong window.
[01:13] <cowmilk> I don't think the problem is just having a typo. I don't think I have the 20060807 version.
[01:13] <p0m> I've got a new keyboard here, not exactly sure of the layout.
[01:13] <cowmilk> How can I get the really latest version (20060807)? Am I doing something wrong?
[01:14] <mwe> babo: well sometimes esd can cause problems. you can see if it's related to that by sudo killall esd before running your program. it's not a solution though as esd is useful. but it should reveal if that's the cause
[01:14] <p0m> itsanup, http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/
[01:15] <krimzon> i have no idea what to do now
[01:15] <Broca> Yesterday I tried to install Ubuntu 6.06 LTS on top of my already populated Debian filesystem. The installer crashed, apparently as a result of trying to create a file that was already there. Should I file a bug report, or is doing this so far outside the spec that I should just wipe the fs and try again?
[01:15] <itsanup> this is my first day of linux
[01:15] <itsanup> i just hope i will be able to understand that
[01:15] <zoolhome> hi all, I'm trying to use the switch user feature but the screen locks and only gives me the option to enter the current user
[01:16] <mwe> itsanup: you want to share you linux printer to windows pcs?
[01:16] <itsanup> yes
[01:16] <itsanup> or even just 1 pc
[01:16] <elias__> Is it enough to add the backports archive or do I have to set priority in the preferences file for each package like this is done in debian?
[01:16] <itsanup> which runs on win xp
[01:16] <krimzon> hmm... it wants wireless-tools >= 28pre9, and i have 27+28pre13-1ubuntu2
[01:16] <mwe> itsanup: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows maybe
[01:17] <krimzon> is what i have >= 28pre9?
[01:17] <mof> salutes
[01:17] <krimzon> is lower or higher better after the pre?
[01:17] <elias__> And is there a backport of the 2.6.16 kernel or some other way to make suspend (not hibernate) work on my vaio?
[01:17] <itsanup> wow that looks like it can help
[01:17] <itsanup> i will read and set it up immediatly and let u know
[01:17] <itsanup> thanks mwe :D
[01:18] <mwe> yw
[01:23] <itsanup> how do i find out my local lan ip of this computer?
[01:23] <sovieticool> !mount
[01:23] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[01:23] <mof> How do ya adjust wireless broadcast strength?
[01:24] <itsanup> i found it
[01:24] <krimzon> how do i shutdown the x server so i can install nvidia drivers?
[01:25] <mwe> mof: iwconfig if the driver supports it
[01:25] <mwe> mof: read 'man iwconfig'
[01:25] <Dimitrije> What is command from terminal to get folders from ftp. I can't do it over gFTP because it crashes every time.
[01:25] <mwe> krimzon: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop will shut it down apruptly
[01:25] <sovieticool> give me please a link how to mount ntfs !!
[01:25] <mwe> !ntfs
[01:25] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[01:25] <InterNut> anyone have any idea on why i get a gray square where the players name should be when i play planeshift. example pic -> http://internut.no-ip.org/pic/misc/screenshot2.png
[01:26] <Dimitrije> !ntfs
[01:26] <mof> cheers
[01:26] <zool2005> does anyone else have a problem with the switch user feature? Dapper won't let me switch users, it just gives me the locked screen for my user again
[01:26] <mwe> zool2005: well it works here
[01:27] <zool2005> mwe, any idea what the problem could be?
[01:27] <krimzon> hmm... it needs a kernel interface or something
[01:27] <CheetahMk2> How do you remove a kernel from Grub? I updated to 686 and I want to remove the 396 option
[01:27] <mwe> zool2005: not really
[01:27] <krimzon> couldn't it have told me that in x?
[01:27] <IAskew> CheetahMk2, i dont think u can easily
[01:28] <mwe> CheetahMk2: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst or remove the other kernel and run sudo update-grub
[01:28] <zool2005> I can logout and login again with the other account but I want to do it without logging out & closing all the windows
[01:28] <CheetahMk2> mew: I'll try that
[01:28] <CheetahMk2> thanks again
[01:28] <Nemuse> salve
[01:29] <Blinker> hm, ok now how do I get network manager running? =p
[01:29] <zool2005> another Q: what should you home folder permissions be set to?
[01:30] <zool2005> read, write & execute for owner only?
[01:31] <mwe> zool2005: 755 usually
[01:31] <mwe> zool2005: you can set it to 700 if you want
[01:31] <sovieticool> how do i mount a ntfs partition ?
[01:31] <zool2005> cheers
[01:31] <mwe> zool2005: then other users can't peek
[01:31] <mwe> !ntfs > sovieticool
[01:32] <sovieticool> please i try over 20 times and don't work
[01:32] <sovieticool> !ntfs
[01:32] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[01:32] <mcphail> is there a command which will give me the complete size of a directory's contents, including all subdirs?
[01:32] <IAskew> man du mcphail
[01:32] <mcphail> IAskew: thankyou
[01:33] <Seveas> mcphail, du -sh .
[01:33] <mcphail> Seveas: thanks
[01:33] <CheetahMk2> Mwe: That did it. The sudo update-grub. Now I am 686 all the way
[01:34] <CheetahMk2> I had to remove those 4 *386 files from the /boot dir though
[01:34] <krimzon> whats the big problem with writing to ntfs partitions?
[01:34] <mormoloc> compiled Bluefish but when i start i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20056
[01:35] <mcphail> krimzon: MS have never released the specs, and the indexing is complex
[01:36] <mormoloc> any suggestion?
[01:36] <fyrestrtr> why did you compile it?
[01:37] <wthww_> hi sonicchao :P
[01:37] <SonicChao> wthww: =p go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:37] <wthww_> lol
[01:37] <mormoloc> fyrestrtr: because with synaptic a can only install vers 1.0.4 which has some nasty buggs
[01:38] <Hotwire> mormoloc, backports?
[01:38] <crazy_penguin> Good day all! :)
[01:38] <krimzon> are there any file systems that windows could be coerced into reading/writing?
[01:38] <mormoloc> Hotwire: huh?
[01:39] <Blinker> good morning (here), crazy_penguin
[01:39] <mcphail> krimzon: vfat/fat32
[01:39] <Hotwire> backport repositories, do you have them enabled?
[01:39] <CheetahMk2> Hm... what is the 'proper' way to restart a networking stack? I've been restarting, since ifdown keeps complaining it can't read the /etc/network/interfaces file
[01:39] <fyrestrtr> mormoloc: sudo apt-get install libpcre3 libpcre3-dev
[01:39] <CheetahMk2> krimzon: try the ntfs-g3 drivers
[01:39] <CheetahMk2> they are supposed to be 'stable
[01:39] <mormoloc> fyrestrtr: k will try
[01:39] <poundex> hi
[01:39] <FrdPrefct> Hello - is there a package for Apache 2.2.3 for Ubuntu?
[01:39] <mcphail> krimzon: and there are some ext2/3 drivers for windows. Don't know how reliable they are
[01:39] <fyrestrtr> CheetahMk2: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[01:40] <CheetahMk2> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009 <- NTFS-3g Ubuntu guide
[01:40] <poundex> Could somone please tell me how to remove a package without removing all its dependant packages? I'm trying to update GLib, and as there is no package im compiling it from source but it won't work because the older GLib is still installed?
[01:40] <krimzon> i'll look into those later
[01:40] <CheetahMk2> fyrestrtr: yeah, I try that and even in sudo it says "blank entry in blah blah blah" and breaks
[01:40] <CheetahMk2> er.. fails
[01:40] <Blinker> poundex: System > administration >synaptic package manager
[01:40] <krimzon> what do i have to do regarding the kernel to install the nvidia drivers?
[01:40] <fyrestrtr> what are the permissions of your /etc/network/interfaces file?
[01:41] <CheetahMk2> This may sound silly... but how do I check? chmod?
[01:41] <fyrestrtr> !nvidia > krimzon
[01:41] <mormoloc> firestrtr: libpcre3-dev has no candidates for installation :(
[01:41] <fyrestrtr> CheetahMk2: ls -l
[01:41] <krimzon> ahh, thanks
[01:41] <fyrestrtr> !info libpcre3-dev
[01:41] <ubotu> libpcre3-dev: Perl 5 Compatible Regular Expression Library - development files. In repository main, is optional. Version 6.4-1.1ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 204 kB, installed size 568 kB
[01:41] <IAskew> !nvidia
[01:41] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:41] <fyrestrtr> mormoloc: are you on dapper?
[01:42] <mormoloc> fyrestrtr: vers 6.0.6
[01:42] <fyrestrtr> mormoloc: sudo apt-get update and try again
[01:42] <poundex> blinker: i can't do that because so many packages are edpendant on the older version it won't continue without removing them all
[01:42] <CheetahMk2> permissions on interfaces: -rw r-- r-- 1 root root
[01:42] <nalpha> guys sorry asking again what gui ftp for ubuntu??
[01:43] <mormoloc> fyrestrtr: what does do (sudo apt-get update)
[01:43] <mormoloc> ?
[01:43] <poundex> hi
[01:43] <Blinker> poundex: hmm. i'm no expert being only a week in on linux, but I thought it let you remove single packages
[01:43] <fyrestrtr> updates your repositories
[01:44] <poundex> no, apparently you have to remove all dependant packages
[01:44] <mormoloc> fyrestrtr: hope it works:)
[01:44] <finalbeta> evolution doesn't show images in mails, how do I turn them on?
[01:44] <gnomefreak> Seveas: ping
[01:44] <fyrestrtr> CheetahMk2: pastebin the contents of your /etc/network/interfaces file
[01:45] <Seveas> gnomefreak, prod
[01:45] <nexus6> mormoloc, use gftp
[01:45] <nexus6> ah
[01:45] <nexus6> nalpha, i mean
[01:45] <sovieticool> :(
[01:45] <gnomefreak> are we still set on +i? my screen isnt showing it and i see unregged got alot
[01:45] <sovieticool> !nrfs
[01:45] <ubotu> I know nothing about nrfs - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:45] <sovieticool> !ntfs
[01:45] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[01:45] <Seveas> gnomefreak, no
[01:46] <mormoloc> nexus6: nalpha for?
[01:46] <sovieticool> !fuse
[01:46] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[01:46] <gnomefreak> nvm im going nuts its the same person
[01:46] <nexus6> yes i was adressing nalpha with my previous message
[01:46] <nexus6> sorry
[01:46] <Blinker> sovieticool: you've tried mount -a?
[01:46] <sovieticool> yes
[01:47] <sovieticool> but i want to edit fstab and i don't know how
[01:47] <Blinker> yeah, can't help ya there
[01:47] <fyrestrtr> sovieticool: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[01:47] <sovieticool> Blinker, can i pm you ?
[01:47] <Blinker> no, but you can join #blinker
[01:47] <Blinker> =p
[01:48] <itsanup> hi guys
[01:48] <itsanup> how do i start cups?
[01:48] <krimzon> help! i cant find linux-restricted-modules for k8
[01:48] <RvGaTe> hello itsanup  :P
[01:48] <dmsantam> i have a memory card reader on laptop. when i put memory card in there, dmesg tells me that a pcmcia card was put in and registerd. how do i now use it?
[01:48] <krimzon> nor can i find linux-image for it
[01:49] <CheetahMk2> Ok, the contents of my network.interfaces is on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20057
[01:49] <itsanup> i have added  my printer from the windows using http://192.168.0.62:631/printers/lq-2180-24-pin   and it got added , i sent a command even........ and now its appearing on screen , although , its not printing.
[01:49] <saik0> itsanup /etc/init.d/cupsys start
[01:50] <itsanup> ok 1 sec
[01:50] <adminx_> Hello, I have a question about aixgl and compiz.
[01:50] <Flannel> krimzon: er, why not? linux-image for k8?
[01:50] <Flannel> krimzon: are you on dapper?
[01:50] <adminx_> I'm have a laptop with a intel 915 graphics card (128 Video Ram Shared).
[01:50] <krimzon> yeah
[01:50] <adminx_> The laptop has 512 megs of ram total. I plan to upgrade to 2 gigs today or tomorrow.
[01:50] <CheetahMk2> Actually, I think I figured the problem out
[01:50] <krimzon> i'll try just using 386 for now
[01:50] <Flannel> krimzon: do you have web repositories enabled? (main and restricted?)
[01:51] <adminx_>  notice that graphic effects are very sluggest.
[01:51] <krimzon> yeah
[01:51] <adminx_> Given the fact that the video card will only use 128 megs, will I see improvement if I upgrade ram?
[01:51] <sovieticool> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20058
[01:51] <Flannel> krimzon: apt-cache search k8 returns nothing?
[01:51] <sovieticool> help me
[01:51] <snarf> i think the problem is the video card. i thought xgl required a more powerful hardware accelerated thingy like a geforce card
[01:52] <sovieticool> to install those partion :(
[01:52] <saik0> adminx_, the video drivers for the ixxx chipsets dont have acceleration
[01:52] <sovieticool> linux noob
[01:52] <CheetahMk2> fyrestrtr: Thanks for the assistance, I think I got it now
[01:52] <Dasnipa`> sovieticool, maybe try asking your question in a one line coherent thought its hard to read 4 spaced out lines to get what you are asking
[01:53] <krimzon> hmm... nothing relevant looking - mcelog, xserver-xorg-driver-via
[01:53] <Flannel> krimzon: hmm, well, this is what's ni the repositories: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=k8&searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all
[01:54] <sovieticool> Dasnipa`, i will try
[01:54] <AlexC_> Hey,
[01:54] <krimzon> i see it there
[01:54] <sovieticool> ok thank's all for help
[01:55] <Flannel> krimzon: hmm, you've currently got the 386 version?  that might be it.  there is a separate ISO for AMD64
[01:55] <chedabob> Hi there
[01:55] <jgile> has anybody been able to install realplayer 10 from dapper-commercial?
[01:55] <jgile> it depends on libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.12.3), but latest version in dapper is 1.12.2-0ubuntu3?
[01:56] <chedabob> whats a decent media player for linux? cos i dont really rate xmms, and amarok just fails horribly
[01:57] <krimzon> ahh, so it's on the cd
[01:57] <Hotwire> chedabob, why does amarok fail? thats the media player you want to use
[01:57] <krimzon> hmm... i got the 386 one so i can put it on a wider range of machines and change the kernel later
[01:57] <fyrestrtr> chedabob: banshee, and what is wrong with amarok? it works fine here
[01:57] <krimzon> rather than spend ages downloading different versions
[01:57] <r000t> anyone here know about the forcedeth-driver in the dapper kernel .. i cant find it doing make menuconfig ?????
[01:58] <saik0> chedabob, what desktop environment are you using?
[01:58] <chedabob> hotwire: cos it uses the xine engine, and ive never been able to get that to play mp3s. when i use the helix engine, it turns the wave channel down on my soundcard whenever it changes tracks
[01:58] <Flannel> krimzon: well, it's also in the repositories, but might just be because you're not already on that arch.
[01:58] <chedabob> saik0: you mean like Kde and Gnome? Im running gnome anyways. im using an almost fresh install
[01:58] <fyrestrtr> chedabob: sounds like you are missing codecs, it plays mp3s here just fine.
[01:58] <Hotwire> you need the correct plugins for mp3 support with xine
[01:58] <chedabob> you got a guide for amarok?
[01:59] <chedabob> oh rt
[01:59] <chedabob> okies
[01:59] <sovieticool> basescu
[01:59] <chedabob> ill go look for them now :P windows has made me expect everything to run out of the box
[01:59] <fyrestrtr> !codecs > chedabob
[02:00] <saik0> chedabob, You might want to look at rhythmbox or banshee if you like an iTunes like interface, BMP (beep-media-player) is akin to winamp/xmms
[02:00] <_jumbo> im trying to install (for the first time) onto a sataII hdd however unbuntu doesnt see it, and ive googld and as far as i can see i need to get JMicron working?
[02:00] <_jumbo> (http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0601.3/1665.html)
[02:00] <_jumbo> any body advise on how to do this please?
[02:00] <IRCMonkeyX> hi,  firestarter is working now, but i cant see its name in system monitor; what can be the reason ?
[02:01] <saik0> chedabob, you must tell me your secrets. windows has made me to expect everything to crash out of the box :P
[02:01] <Flannel> chedabob: in windows, you pay for a mp3 license, free software can't legally distribute mp3 things, because of patents and licensing
[02:01] <ziottt> hi
[02:01] <chedabob> flannel: winamp is free
[02:01] <saik0> IRCMonkeyX, Firestarter is a GUI configuration tool for the linux kernel firewall called iptables. You cant see it running because it's not in userspace.
[02:02] <chedabob> saik0: yeah i know, thats why i use linux now, but im used to downloading an audio player, and it supporting mp3s without any faffin
[02:02] <chedabob> where do i get the mp3 codec for xine?
[02:02] <IRCMonkeyX> saik0 : how can i be sure that it works in start-up ? because at the moment i always start it myself
[02:02] <IAskew> chedabob, google easy ubuntu
[02:03] <AlexC_> chedabob: you could use BMP ( Beep Media Player )
[02:03] <Flannel> chedabob: winamp is legal, because the users have already purchased a mp3 license, with windows
[02:03] <fyrestrtr> chedabob: you were probably also used to viruses, trojans, strange windows popping up, the mouse being stuck in the middle of the screen -- and all other things that are the joy of Windows. Welcome :)
[02:03] <Hotwire> chedabob, the repositories, restricted i think
[02:03] <saik0> IRCMonkeyX, it is working at start up. The GUI does not have to be running for the firewall to be active. Again, it's built into the kernel.
[02:03] <AlexC_> chedabob: then follow the guide on Ubuntu to install Mp3 codecs
[02:04] <Flannel> chedabob: Yeah, there's guides for mp3 support, it's a single install command, no hassle.  Just not installed by default.
[02:04] <_jumbo> can any one help me installing unbuntu noto a sataII harddrive please?
[02:04] <_jumbo> onto*
[02:04] <chedabob> damn my DNS is having a fit again
[02:04] <AlexC_> chedabob: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/codecs.html
[02:04] <IRCMonkeyX> saik0 : so ? no way to check it active or inactive ? you say that it is certainly active ?
[02:04] <AlexC_> chedabob: sudo aptitude install bmp
[02:04] <glen_> _jumbo, what's the problem?
[02:04] <saik0> IRCMonkeyX, It's ALWAYS active :)
[02:05] <r000t> anyone here have forcedeth and compiled there own kernel???
[02:05] <AlexC_> chedabob: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/music.html
[02:05] <_jumbo> glen_, unbunt cant see the harddrive
[02:05] <IRCMonkeyX> saik0 : ok, thanx :)
[02:05] <_jumbo> and ive had a google and i think i need to patch it so it can ? need to get Jmicron working?
[02:05] <chedabob> im sold on that easy ubuntu
[02:05] <glen_> _jumbo, is it an onboard  sata controller?
[02:05] <chedabob> imsure ive seen something similar on digg, but i forgot its name
[02:06] <_jumbo> yes glen_
[02:06] <AlexC_> chedabob: by the time you've installed Easy Ubuntu - it probably would of been easier to just do a few commands in terminal
[02:06] <AlexC_> chedabob: plus you learn more
[02:06] <chedabob> ive learnt enough already
[02:07] <AlexC_> enough is never enough :p
[02:07] <glen_> _jumbo, what kind, chipset/
[02:07] <glen_> _jumbo, ?
[02:07] <chedabob> damn that easy ubuntu is nice. its so easy
[02:08] <_jumbo> mobo is an ASROCK SATAII and its ALI chipset, and hte sataII needs Jmircon working, or so google leads me to belive
[02:08] <_jumbo> (i dont exactly know to well waht im doing)
[02:08] <imperfect-> Why does it seem humanly impossible to get temperature sensors working under dapper?
[02:08] <IRCMonkeyX> saik0 : it is seen by " ps aux " command
[02:08] <imperfect-> I mean, is it really that hard?
[02:08] <IRCMonkeyX> !104
[02:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about 104 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:09] <imperfect-> !lmsensors
[02:09] <ubotu> You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[02:09] <lukem> hey
[02:10] <IRCMonkeyX> people, when i see processes by ps aux command, there are 104 and 108 and user tab, what does it mean ?
[02:10] <saik0> IRCMonkeyX, You're talking about firestarter, not iptables right?
[02:10] <lukem> my sound has gone horrible
[02:10] <IRCMonkeyX> people, when i see processes by ps aux command, there are 104 and 108 under user tab, what does it mean ?
[02:10] <imperfect-> isn't firestarter just an ugly frontend for iptables?
[02:10] <lukem> anything I can do to test/ fix alsa?
[02:10] <IRCMonkeyX> saik0: yes firestarter
[02:11] <saik0> imperfect-, yes. thats what it is
[02:11] <_jumbo> any ideas glen_
[02:12] <IRCMonkeyX> !iptables > IRCMonkeyX
[02:12] <glen_> _jumbo, have you got ubuntu installed?
[02:12] <_jumbo> no glen_
[02:12] <saik0> IRCMonkeyX, I'm not sure you understood my explanation of iptables and firestarter before...
[02:12] <_jumbo> it cant see it to install it on
[02:12] <IRCMonkeyX> saik0: me too :)
[02:12] <_jumbo> howeveri belive i could install it by pluggin the hardrive in sata1, installing then patching then puttin it in sata2?
[02:13] <_jumbo> (however i dont know that will actually work i just read it)
[02:13] <Hotwire> glen_, i think he needs to patch the kernel so it will support his mobo, and thus his hdd, but how to do this without an installed system i dont know
[02:13] <Arigato> normally ubuntu runs smooth but sometimes even opening a terminal will take a few seconds it looks pretty much the same when you got windows xp running for a day or two whitout rebooting anyone here knows how this could be?
[02:13] <glen_> Hotwire, think it may be installable on sata 1 - from just googling
[02:14] <IRCMonkeyX> saik0: do u say that, it is already built in kernel, so no need to use any other tool ?
[02:14] <_jumbo> once its installed on sata1 how do i go about making it so i can run it on saya2?
[02:14] <Hotwire> glen_, sounds like an easier option :)
[02:15] <lukem> no ideas?
[02:15] <CheetahMk2> where does synaptic cache packages?
[02:15] <glen_> _jumbo, plug the drive to the sata 1 slot, install and then get into recompiling the kernel
[02:16] <Flannel> CheetahMk2: /var/cache/apt
[02:16] <CheetahMk2> Thats the thing... I just downloaded some packages using 'download package only', and they aren't here...
[02:16] <saik0> IRCMonkeyX, Sort of. You need a tool to configure it, be it command line or GUI that makes no difference. Firestarter is just a GUI configration tool. All it really does is change the config and start/stop it. The firewall is still active regardless of whether or not firestarter is running.
[02:16] <r000t> please someone know of the forcedeth driver in the dapper kernel
[02:17] <_jumbo> thanks for your help glen_ :)
[02:17] <_jumbo> this is my first time using linux
[02:17] <_jumbo> so i dont know alot
[02:17] <IRCMonkeyX> saik0: do u agree with people who says no need anti-virus tool for linux? shoul i install an anti-virus ?
[02:18] <snarf> if i was going to dual boot ubuntu and freebsd, which boot manager should i use? grub or the bsd one?
[02:18] <glen_> _jumbo, no problem
[02:18] <IdleOne> grub
[02:18] <chedabob> easyubuntu was a bit useless. i ended up just using that link i was given
[02:18] <saik0> IRCMonkeyX, assuming all your software comes from one place (the ubuntu repos) then in essence there is no need for AV.
[02:18] <imperfect-> saik0 : alas, I thought devfs == udev -- so creating the devices was a step I kept skipping
[02:19] <imperfect-> saik0: <-- dumbass
[02:19] <itsanup> hi
[02:19] <itsanup> i have downloaded flash player 7
[02:19] <itsanup> how do i install it?
[02:19] <rsk> itsanup: read the manual
[02:19] <chedabob> bring up terminal
[02:19] <rsk> !flash
[02:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:19] <itsanup> terminal is up
[02:19] <Flannel> snarf: shouldn't matter.  Whichever you're more comfortable with.  Most(if not all) of the non-widnows boot managers play well with other OSes
[02:19] <IRCMonkeyX> saik0: what about viruses that come from internet ?
[02:19] <itsanup> chedabob: my terminal is up
[02:19] <chedabob> navigate to the directory where flashplayer is downloaded (desktop probably
[02:20] <imperfect-> anyone here familiar w/ flock?
[02:20] <itsanup> i am there
[02:20] <IRCMonkeyX> saik0: and from diskettes, cd's
[02:20] <chedabob> go to pm
[02:20] <rsk> IRCMonkeyX: linux dosent suffer from viruses in the "wild"
[02:20] <chedabob> oops
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> IRCMonkeyX: HAve you cseen the ad's on tv for Mac's?
[02:20] <chedabob> never mind pm, im not registered
[02:20] <chedabob> instanup : right click the file on your desktop, and select "extract here"
[02:20] <chedabob> then in terminal navigate to the new folder
[02:20] <chedabob> then type ./flashplayer-installer
[02:21] <Jack_Sparrow> IRCMonkeyX: The ones with two guys, I'm a PC  I'm a Mac...
[02:21] <chedabob> then follow the instructions
[02:21] <imperfect-> the one on youtube w/ the black guy
[02:21] <imperfect-> is great
[02:21] <imperfect-> 'i'm faster and have a bigger hard drive"
[02:21] <imperfect-> funny stuff
[02:21] <chedabob> you talkin bout the mac spoofs by truenuff?
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> IRCMonkeyX: Windows is the problem...  No virii for Mac...
[02:22] <imperfect-> Yeah it's the spoof.
[02:22] <chedabob> theres 6 you know
[02:22] <imperfect-> Mac users _are_ virii
[02:23] <Flannel> !offtopic
[02:23] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:23] <IRCMonkeyX> Jack_Sparrow: i dont use mac,
[02:23] <Blinker> how do I get network manager running in gnome?
[02:23] <imperfect-> !analzealots
[02:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about analzealots - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:23] <chedabob> ircmonkeyX: yeah but the spoofs are mint
[02:23] <chedabob> http://nophus.com/media.php?media=nuff
[02:23] <chedabob> all of the mac spoofs, in a few formats :P
[02:23] <nexus6> Blinker, simply install packages network-manager and network-manager-gnome
[02:24] <_jumbo> glen_, shouyld i worry about how to recompile the kernel now?
[02:24] <nexus6> you need to have multiverse repositories enabled for this to work
[02:24] <_jumbo> or shal i just get it installed first?
[02:24] <itsanup> how do i go into my install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz ?
[02:24] <Jack_Sparrow> IRCMonkeyX: I didnt say that you used MAcs.  But like the ad says, if you use a Mac you dont have to worry about virii and sypware firewalls..  The same is true for Linux
[02:24] <chedabob> itsanup : right click the file in nautilus and "extract here"
[02:24] <nexus6> itsanup, you could also just install the flashplugin-nonfree package from the repositories
[02:24] <itsanup> i am on ubuntu
[02:24] <IRCMonkeyX> Jack_Sparrow: but i hear sometimes about linux viruses, were those a lie ?
[02:24] <Blinker> nexus6: I did that
[02:24] <Jack_Sparrow> IRCMonkeyX: You should stick with the repos for your software
[02:25] <saik0> The notion that Mac OS and Linux are invulerable to virii is a bad one....
[02:25] <glen_> _jumbo, no, there'll be time for that later - if you can install it on sata1 you can come back here for help with the kernel
[02:25] <Jack_Sparrow> IRCMonkeyX: You wont find any
[02:25] <IRCMonkeyX> Jack_Sparrow: what about viruses that come from internet ? it is not only from repo's
[02:25] <nexus6> Blinker, then just press alt+f2 and enter nm-applet
[02:25] <chedabob> "im not linux, im frickin BSD"
[02:25] <nexus6> the applet should appear in the upper right corner
[02:26] <IdleOne> IRCMonkeyX, there are virii for mac and linux but not as common as for windows
[02:26] <nexus6> itsanup, i know very well that you're on ubuntu, after all it's the #ubuntu channel =)
[02:26] <rsk> IRCMonkeyX: they are so uncommon you dont need antivirus
[02:26] <Jack_Sparrow> saik0: You can always go out and install something form an unknown source and have a problem...
[02:26] <chedabob> nexus6 : LOL
[02:26] <IRCMonkeyX> IdleOne: what must i do ? which anti-virus should i install ?
[02:26] <Jack_Sparrow> IRCMonkeyX: It just isnt an issue
[02:27] <chedabob> i was just about to ask that. is there like a virus scanner for mac? or am i alright to run without one? same goes for a firewall
[02:27] <Jack_Sparrow> IRCMonkeyX: AV for linux is a waste of money
[02:27] <IdleOne> IRCMonkeyX, dont install anything from an unknows/unsafe source.. ( if your not sure then dont do it ) and you will be fine
[02:27] <saik0> IRCMonkeyX. No AV. Just dont execute any code from a source you dont trust.
[02:27] <rsk> dont ask for mac things here
[02:27] <Blinker> nexus6: doh. it was already running then =p  it's showing no connection. happen to know how to fix/configure that?
[02:27] <nexus6> the only reason i could imagine to install AV in linux -> scanning infected windows files
[02:27] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[02:28] <chedabob> whats a decent firewall for linux? cos like im a total n00b :P
[02:28] <nexus6> Blinker, does it show no connection or no eth devices?
[02:28] <IAskew> chedabob, firestarter
[02:28] <nexus6> chedabob, you could use firestarter, a front-end for iptables
[02:28] <Blinker> when I 1x left click it has wired connection greyed out, no wireless listed
[02:28] <mof> Ok so with a wireless card it i lower the power output dbm the less it's gonna hurt me, is this right?
[02:28] <IRCMonkeyX> ok i will not install any anti-virus, i care too much for security, that's why i asked that much :)
[02:28] <chedabob> nexus6: do i just do sudo apt-get install firestart?
[02:28] <Jack_Sparrow> chedabob:  Firewall is part of the linux iptables, you dont install a firewall you install a firewall manager like firestarter or guarddog
[02:28] <saik0> nexus6, I'm under the impression thats why most linux AVs exist.
[02:28] <nexus6> yes, although the package is called firestarter
[02:29] <imperfect-> !lmsensors
[02:29] <ubotu> You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[02:29] <nexus6> saik0, so much to answer the before mentioned question :)
[02:29] <nexus6> unless you are running a mailserver that has windows clients, you can completely ignore the AV matter
[02:29] <IRCMonkeyX> Jack_Sparrow: now i got what firestarter is
[02:29] <Jack_Sparrow> chedabob: You only do that if you really need to manage (open) specific ports.
[02:29] <Kittiah> I've got a program that's crashed but is still sat in my system tray. How do I kill an application in Ubuntu?
[02:29] <Hex-ff310f> hi.. im haveing some install problems on a amd box. installer crashes on modprobe amd74xx. is there any workaround. textmode installer or something?
[02:29] <Blinker> nexus6: when I 1x left click it has wired connection greyed out, no wireless listed (obviously connected/working)
[02:30] <IdleOne> IRCMonkeyX, linux isnt like windows where you just point and click... you need to think about what it is you are going to install so that in turn forces you to know what it is your installing making it alot safer for the user.. windows just lets you install everything forcing you to be stupid and trusting everything
[02:30] <Jack_Sparrow> chedabob: It does a better job on its own than most people can do themselves
[02:30] <nexus6> Kittiah: whats the name of the crashed app?
[02:30] <Kittiah> Amarok
[02:30] <IAskew> Kittiah, Ctrl+Alt+Esc then click on the offending app
[02:30] <IRCMonkeyX> Jack_Sparrow: do i have a chance to scan my ports from terminal via a command ?
[02:30] <glen_> Kittiah, open system monitor, then kill offending program
[02:30] <nexus6> Blinker, please right click and click connection info
[02:30] <rsk> IRCMonkeyX: yes use nmap
[02:30] <jessid> hello, some of you can, please tell me what is the command to make hard disk turn off?
[02:30] <Blinker> nexus6: greyed out
[02:31] <nexus6> Kittiah: go to a terminal, type the following : ps ax | grep amarok
[02:31] <Hex-ff310f> hi.. im haveing some install problems on a amd box. installer crashes on modprobe amd74xx. is there any workaround. textmode installer or something?
[02:31] <Kittiah> Thank you very much ^^
[02:31] <nexus6> Kittiah, note the PID number on the left side, then again type "kill #number"
[02:31] <IRCMonkeyX> rsk: nmap myip // does it scan my 65536 ports ?
[02:31] <Blinker> nexus6: I also looked my harware up, and it is explicitly listed as supported
[02:31] <saik0> nexus6, Well, I have used clamav to perform an autopsy on windows installations
[02:31] <Jack_Sparrow> IRCMonkeyX: Im sure you can, I just dont use the term unless I really need to...  If you want to test it there are several sites that will be happy to scan your ports for vulnerabilities.
[02:31] <rsk> IRCMonkeyX: why dont you try it :)
[02:31] <chedabob> is there an easy way to modify what programs run on startup? cos id like to run at least Kopete on startup
[02:32] <nexus6> yes me2, but i'm done with scanning and repairing windows installations, repeating and repeating and repeating ... :)
[02:32] <saik0> IRCMonkeyX, nmap can scan open ports
[02:32] <Blinker> nexus6: word
[02:32] <Blinker> heh
[02:32] <IRCMonkeyX> rsk: i tried, but it says no open ports, and in a one second
[02:32] <IRCMonkeyX> thats why i asked
[02:32] <saik0> IRCMonkeyX, ubuntu has a no open ports policy, and by default has none out of the box
[02:32] <nexus6> Blinker, i remember having to reboot the machine after network-manager installations, or it wouldn't recognize my loaded eth modules
[02:32] <Jack_Sparrow> saik0: There is also a livecd with a couple different av for checking windows..  Universal boot disk has that and dozens of other tools like partitioners.
[02:32] <Blinker> nexus6: already rebooted
[02:32] <nexus6> maybe you should try that
[02:33] <IRCMonkeyX> saik0: what about 80. port ??
[02:33] <chedabob> whats the file that loads everything at startup? i wanna run Kopete when my box loads
[02:33] <IRCMonkeyX> saik0: it even doesnt tell 80. port is open
[02:33] <nexus6> Blinker, i'm on my wits end now :/
[02:33] <glen_> chedabob, kde or gnome?
[02:33] <chedabob> gnome
[02:33] <Blinker> k, thanks then...I'll try to break it in the name of fixing it then =p
[02:34] <nexus6> chedabob, you would not want to use kopete on gnome
[02:34] <nexus6> i guess :)
[02:34] <chedabob> why not? gaim messes up for me
[02:34] <frogzoo> jessid: sudo hdparm -y /dev/hd#
[02:34] <saik0> IRCMonkeyX, unless you're running a webserver than 80 is unlikely to be open
[02:34] <chedabob> my buddy list loads, then it just crashes. but i dont get an eror or anything
[02:34] <nexus6> it utilizes kde libs, better not mess the dependencies up i guess
[02:34] <jessid> frogzoo  gracias!!!
[02:34] <Hex-ff310f> hi.. im haveing some install problems on a amd box. installer crashes on modprobe amd74xx. is there any workaround. textmode installer or something?
[02:34] <jessid> frogzoo thanks!!!
[02:34] <chedabob> it runs fine for me though
[02:34] <nexus6> alright, if you have no problem then go on :)
[02:34] <IRCMonkeyX> saik0: All 1674 scanned ports on 10.x.x.x are closed, is it normal ?
[02:34] <chedabob> its running now
[02:35] <chedabob> how do i set it to run at startup?
[02:35] <saik0> IRCMonkeyX, indeed! :)
[02:35] <IRCMonkeyX> saik0: i am not running a web server
[02:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Hex-ff310f: Grub Boot Options try F6   ide=nodma vga=normal or 791 nomce acpi=off pnpbios=off xdrvr=vesa xres=800x600 apm=off quiet
[02:35] <nexus6> you can always go to System/Preferences/Sessions
[02:35] <nexus6> chedabob,
[02:35] <nexus6> there you will find "Startup Programs"
[02:36] <IRCMonkeyX> saik0: why only 1674 ports ?
[02:36] <chedabob> oooh, forgot about that, i had something in there when i was messing with XGL
[02:36] <chedabob> thanks
[02:36] <nexus6> np :)
[02:36] <peti27> Hi everyone
[02:36] <RvGaTe> hi you
[02:36] <chedabob> Hi
[02:37] <Jack_Sparrow> 792 People yell.. Hello....
[02:37] <skypa> you guys know a nice, fancy graphical backup solution?
[02:37] <saik0> IRCMonkeyX, because thats what it checks by default.... do "nmap --help" or "man nmap" for more info
[02:37] <madmax> hello... i'm migrating from slackware to ubuntu and i want to install over my old partition (and keep my old files) there's no problem with that, right? witch cd should i download?
[02:37] <Jack_Sparrow> skypa: No, just that one liner in a terminal
[02:37] <peti27> I am a newbie who in need of some help.
[02:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask
[02:37] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> madmax,  you got your  /home on its own partition?
[02:38] <IRCMonkeyX> people, in xp port 135 has dcom exploit vulnebarity, what about port 135 in ubuntu? port missions depend on OS ?
[02:38] <cowmilk> hello, guys, please tell me what i should add to my crontab for ~/documents/dl to run every Sunday at 19;00 my time.
[02:38] <skypa> Jack_Sparrow, yeah, before I craft myself a script I wanted to check whether there's sth more colorful
[02:38] <nexus6> peti27, what's your problem?
[02:38] <madmax> that's a bit problematic... i have root, home, and usr/local all on one big 160GB partition
[02:38] <saik0> IRCMonkeyX there is no dcom in linux
[02:38] <visham> hi folks
[02:38] <visham> i have a problem
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> madmax,  backup your /home some how.
[02:38] <Jack_Sparrow> skypa: I was going to do something graphic in python or something, but just never got around to it
[02:38] <madmax> as in i have all linux stuff on one partition and it's reiserfs
[02:39] <nexus6> Dr_Willis, afair 135 is NetBIOS port
[02:39] <visham> i am using breezy(5.10)
[02:39] <IRCMonkeyX> saik0: how can i see port missions in ubuntu ? is 21 ftp ? is 23 telnet ?
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> nexus6,  yea thats wha ti was thinking.
[02:39] <ic56> cowmilk: your personal crontab or /etc/crontab ?  the formats are slightly different
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> IRCMonkeyX,  check /etc/services
[02:39] <peti27> I have an USB harddrive which is recongnized by Ubuntu, but it has the access right set only to read and execute for the owner. I would like to change it to rwx for the owner and read for everyone else.
[02:39] <visham> the problem is my taskbar has dissapeared and i can't figure out how to make it visible
[02:39] <cowmilk> ic56: um. i'm not sure. which should i edit?
[02:40] <cowmilk> ic56: just to let you know, i'm the only user of my computer
[02:40] <IRCMonkeyX> !port > ircmonkeyx
[02:40] <Jack_Sparrow> peti27: edit youe fstab
[02:40] <saik0> IRCMonkeyX, You can use any port for any purpose in any OS (with the assumption it's not being used for something else) Thats why protocols are assigned ports, so they dont interfere with eachother.
[02:40] <Jack_Sparrow> peti27: gksudo gedit  /etc/fstab
[02:40] <_Roman> Is there an easy way to install all the stuff required for C development under 6.06? ie. gcc, headers, bin-utils in one fell swoop?
[02:40] <visham> hey can anyone solve my problem
[02:40] <peti27> let me try it. Thx.
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> _Roman,  apt-get install build-essential
[02:41] <_Roman> Dr_Willis: thanks
[02:41] <nexus6> visham, try to execute gnome-panel in a terminal
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> visham: Did you accidentally delete or change it?
[02:41] <evert> Stange software that wengophone , i download it (i want to use the chatfunction of it) , but when installing the *.deb file i only get the sip client :s
[02:41] <visham> by the way i am using xfce desktop
[02:41] <nexus6> _Roman, install the package build-essential
[02:41] <ic56> cowmilk: /etc/services is run by root and in each job you specify under which uid the job should be run.  This is meant for running system jobs.  Contrarily, your personal crontab is run in its entirety under your uid and has no means to obtain other privileges.
[02:41] <jjordan> I'm having a problem installing ubuntu, anyone around that can answer a few questions for me?
[02:41] <warlocky> could someone _PLEASE_PLEASE_PLEASE_ link the orginal /etc/network/intrefaces file ?
[02:41] <saik0> IRCMonkeyX, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_TCP_and_UDP_port_numbers
[02:42] <IRCMonkeyX> DR_willis:  i installed build -essentials, i have hello.c in my desktop, i dont know how to compile
[02:42] <nexus6> visham, that's a different cup of soup :)
[02:42] <IRCMonkeyX> saik0: thank you very much for the link
[02:42] <visham> Jack_Sparrow, i did something with my mouse and it just got dissapeared
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> IRCMonkeyX,  time to read a C tutorial or then I think. :P
[02:42] <nexus6> haha, fullack Dr_Willis
[02:42] <visham> nexus6, tell me how to get back my taskbar??
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> gcc hello.c   (perhaps?)
[02:42] <warlocky> someone please link your /etc/network/interfaces file (if you are using ubuntu breezy, and not dapper) pretty please.
[02:43] <Jack_Sparrow> visham: I dont do xfce sorry
[02:43] <cowmilk> ic56: i don't what i want to add is something i consider a system job. Actually the command I want to run is just a series of commands to get a file from the internet every week. With this in mind, do you think I should be editing just my personal crontab?
[02:43] <nexus6> visham, neither do i
[02:43] <nexus6> sorry :/
[02:43] <IRCMonkeyX> DR_willis:  i do it easily in windows, i am asking  how to do it without using any other ide, by using core ubuntu
[02:43] <visham> anyone using xfce on Ubuntu 5.10
[02:43] <visham> plz help me
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> IRCMonkeyX,  thats what the shell is for..    gcc program.c
[02:44] <cowmilk> ic56: correction. I mean to say "ic56: i don't _think_ i want ..."
[02:44] <saik0> warlocky, have you tried man /etc/network/interfaces?
[02:44] <IdleOne> visham, do you have a black tringle in the right bottom corner of your screen?
[02:44] <jjordan> will ubuntu 6.06 install on a sata drive?
[02:44] <ic56> cowmilk: who will own the downloaded copy of the file?  you?  or some system user?  Who will own the directory in which the file will be placed?
[02:44] <nexus6> jjordan, yes
[02:44] <visham> IdleOne, no black triangle
[02:44] <Blinker> jjordan: yes
[02:44] <cowmilk> ic56: i will own it. it's for me
[02:44] <evert> Stange software that wengophone , i download it (i want to use the chatfunction of it) , but when installing the *.deb file i only get the sip client :s ... has somebody experience with wengo ?
[02:45] <cowmilk> ic56: the directory that the file will be downloaded in is my personal directory. something like "/home/cowmilk/download
[02:45] <cowmilk> "
[02:45] <IRCMonkeyX> DR_willis:  i  wrote in terminal, gcc hello.c , nothing happend:?
[02:45] <IdleOne> visham, try alt+shift+F7
[02:45] <Jack_Sparrow> IRCMonkeyX: Please clarify, you can compile/run C in Windows without installing anything from Core Windows?
[02:45] <IRCMonkeyX> DR_willis:  if i ask stupidly sorry, newbie here
[02:46] <nexus6> IRCMonkeyX, what happens if you type "gcc --version"
[02:46] <nexus6> ?
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> IRCMonkeyX,  now is the time to go to google and read a few tutorials. http://www.physics.drexel.edu/courses/Comp_Phys/General/C_basics/c_tutorial.html
[02:46] <neutrinomass> IRCMonkeyX: It compiled, but it's name is "a.out". You can run it with ./a.out
[02:46] <visham> IdleOne, no result
[02:46] <warlocky> saik0, yeah. but here's my problem, I removed my dhcp server (I put a static ip) and now everything is running slow as hell, my webby is not loading fast, when i login as root, or any other user in ssh its slow..
[02:46] <jjordan> if the live cd works fine (except for install hardware drivers) but install hangs at 15% "detecting file systems"...anyone have a suggestion on what might be causing this?
[02:46] <IdleOne> visham, try alt+shift+F11
[02:46] <ic56> cowmilk: therefore no uid other than your own will ever be involved.  Hence it's appropriate that the job be placed in your personal crontab.  Do you have such a beast yet?  From terminal type "crontab -l"  (without sudo).  If you don't have a crontab, it will say "no crontab for cowmilk"
[02:46] <fyrestrtr> warlocky: sounds like you have a dns problem.
[02:46] <warlocky> hmm, whys that?
[02:46] <neutrinomass> IRCMonkeyX: But this doesn't really belong to this channel. A good C book (make sure it's UNIX oriented) covers this ...
[02:46] <Jack_Sparrow> jjordan: Are you runing sata raid drives
[02:46] <jjordan> no
[02:47] <glen_> jjordan, try the alternate cd. there's bugs in the graphical/live installer
[02:47] <visham> IdleOne, notting's happening
[02:47] <warlocky> fyrestrtr, how can I have a dns problem ? I changed my interfaces file to put a sttic up, and now everything is loading just slowly for some reason
[02:47] <cowmilk> ic56: yes, it says " no crontab for cowmilk"
[02:47] <jjordan> Jack_Sparrow: just one sata 300gig drive
[02:47] <jjordan> no raid
[02:47] <IdleOne> visham, sorry i dont know what to tell you
[02:47] <saik0> warlocky, check /etc/resolv.conf
[02:47] <Jack_Sparrow> I run a pair of 400's (sata) so that isnt it
[02:47] <fyrestrtr> warlocky: did you disable ipv6?
[02:47] <IRCMonkeyX> nexus6:gcc (GCC) 4.0.3 (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5)
[02:47] <ic56> cowmilk: ok.  I'll walk you through making a personal crontab
[02:47] <nexus6> yes neutrinomass is already a step further :)
[02:47] <nexus6> IRCMonkeyX, read some C books
[02:47] <cowmilk> ic56:  thanks so much.
[02:48] <jjordan> I have AMD-FX55, 1gig of ram, Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe MB
[02:48] <IRCMonkeyX> neutrinomass: yes i found a.out, thanx
[02:48] <jjordan> I shouldn't have a problem with any of that right?
[02:48] <cbx33> hi guys i installed a seperate version of libcairo from another repo for a graphics test....
[02:48] <IdleOne> visham, try #xfce
[02:48] <IRCMonkeyX> nexus6: i will
[02:48] <cbx33> not I need to remove and get the original ubuntu one back
[02:48] <cbx33> any ideas
[02:48] <neutrinomass> IRCMonkeyX: Buy a good UNIX C book and then buy "Beginning Linux Programming", Wrox Press. It's an excellent introduction to the APIs on UNIX (expensive book, but well worth it )
[02:48] <peti27> Jack it's not working. I have only 4 lines in my fstab file (proc, sda2, sda5 - sda2,5 are the swap and the ubuntu partition). The only other line is
[02:49] <IdleOne> visham, they should be able to help
[02:49] <ic56> cowmilk: First, start your favourite editor to create a file named ~/.crontab .  This isn't necessary; it's just good practice that will make life easier in the future.
[02:49] <visham> thnx IdleOne
[02:49] <ic56> cowmilk: in that file place the following lines:
[02:49] <IdleOne> no problem
[02:49] <Jack_Sparrow> jjordan: a lot of people have a problem with that board for some reason...  Dosent it have two different sata setups, one nforce and another?
[02:49] <jjordan> yes
[02:49] <ic56> cowmilk:  ### ~cowmilk/.crontab
[02:50] <Jack_Sparrow> jjordan: Your using sata 2 is my guess..
[02:50] <snoops> how can I force stop a cdrom.. like I can't eject and it's got some read error ont he disk, and not letting me skip it
[02:50] <PeterPowell> hi al
[02:50] <PeterPowell> *all
[02:50] <peti27> "/dev/hda        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0"
[02:50] <IRCMonkeyX> neutrinomass: i used to code in C before 2-3 years, what i want to learn is, differences coding in linux and coding in windows, for example, if the code doesnt consist any spesific system libraries, same code works in both OS ?
[02:50] <ic56> cowmilk: # download <my internet document> weekly:
[02:50] <jjordan> well i have the raid turned off in the bios since i don't use it
[02:50] <squeechy> Startup problem... system insists on mounting firewire drive even if its not attached.
[02:50] <Jack_Sparrow> peti27: Your drive isnt listed...?
[02:51] <saik0> snoops, what does sudo fuser '/dev/cdrom' give you?
[02:51] <jjordan> and I thought that turns off the "other" sata
[02:51] <PeterPowell> Is It Possible To Change The Order Of The Items In Gnome
[02:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry people I am still on first cup of coffee and I can only do two things at once
[02:51] <cowmilk> ic56: i did crontab -e instead
[02:51] <cowmilk> is this fine, ic56?
[02:51] <Blinker> PeterPowell: what items?
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> squeechy,  use the noauto option for thaut drive in the fstab, then you have to mount it manually.
[02:51] <nexus6> peti27, try mounting the drive with option umask=0022
[02:51] <josh__> ok what do i need to add to what config file to allow root to ftp to my ftp server?
[02:51] <warlocky> fyrestrtr, sorry I was out smoking, im back now
[02:51] <fyrestrtr> PeterPowell: Yes It Is And Stop Typing Like This
[02:51] <PeterPowell> all of the ubunu ones, and xp
[02:51] <josh__> im using proftp
[02:51] <PeterPowell> sorry
[02:51] <warlocky> saik0, ok
[02:51] <saik0> snoops, oops 'sudo fuser /dev/cdrom'
[02:51] <snoops> umm saik0 /dev/cdrom: 5506  6631
[02:52] <peti27> it is a external USB drive. As I turn it on it shows NewVolume on the desktop. I can access files on it, but can not delete or write.
[02:52] <PeterPowell> all of the ubuntu ones, and xp
[02:52] <neutrinomass> IRCMonkeyX: Heh, I can't really tell you, never coded on Windows :P If you are already familiar with C, then just buy "Beginning Linux Programming". It introduces you to the various UNIX libraries, APIs etc. etc.
[02:52] <ic56> cowmilk: I advise you against it but it's your box.  Don't come back crying in a few months when you've forgotten to make a backup of your crontab because you had no copy in your home directory.
[02:52] <Blinker> PeterPowell: i'm sorry, that makes no sense at all to me
[02:52] <josh__> peti... check the drive permission, then check the drive lock
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> jjordan: No it dosent...  So you need to see which "Bus" you are using and if it is set for sata1 or 2
[02:52] <saik0> snoops, 'sudo kill -9 5506 6631'
[02:52] <snoops> ah cheers saik0
[02:52] <visham> any xfce pundit in here? plz help me
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> josh__: thanks
[02:52] <cowmilk> ic56: ok. i'll do this and open up mousepad
[02:52] <PeterPowell> there is ubuntu, and xp on gnome
[02:53] <jjordan> ah, ok, i'll try that
[02:53] <jjordan> thanks for the help
[02:53] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[02:53] <IRCMonkeyX> neutrinomass: do your programs work on windows too ?  :)
[02:53] <squeechy> Dr_Willis, its already set to noauto
[02:53] <jjordan> its crazy, i've tried fedora, suse, unbuntu, and debian they all do the same thing
[02:53] <saik0> snoops, anytime. if any of that needs explaining you can msg me
[02:53] <dshgox>  Hello.  I am trying to run Ubuntu without installing a bootloader to my wife's laptop.  I have an Ubuntu LiveCD and have installed Ubuntu onto an external Firewire drive, but the BIOS won't let me boot from it.  I am wondering if there is any way to get the LiveCD to boot the external hardrive, instead of from HD(0,0).
[02:53] <fyrestrtr> IRCMonkeyX: C binaries are not portable.
[02:53] <josh__> cowmilk... when changing cron... do it this way "crontab -l > /cron.input" then edit the file and load it back in by doing "crontab cron.input"
[02:53] <neutrinomass> IRCMonkeyX: doubt it ...
[02:53] <dubski> hi.. all of a sudden nautilus crashed and when i hit close or restart it just comes back and crashes.  this only happens on one of my logins.  it happens as soon as i log in. any ideas?? i'm using dapper/gnome all up to date.
[02:53] <snoops> umm no go saik0.. still unresponsive
[02:53] <josh__> that way you will always have a backup copy if you mess up
[02:53] <visham> is there a way to play .rm(real media) files on xfmedia player??
[02:53] <snoops> no error was given with sudo kill -9 5506 6631 though
[02:54] <Blinker> PeterPowell: ...xp on gnome? are you talking about mounted directories/partitions?
[02:54] <dshgox> I am using the 6.06 LTS install CD.
[02:54] <ic56> cowmilk: 17 4 * * 7 /home/cowmilk/documents/dl
[02:54] <fyrestrtr> dshgox: if the bios doesn't let you boot, then livcd can't help you.
[02:54] <josh__> snoops what are you trying to do?
[02:54] <PeterPowell> you know
[02:54] <PeterPowell> whe you boot up
[02:54] <fyrestrtr> dshgox: you need a superboot floppy/cd
[02:54] <PeterPowell> it shows the os choices list
[02:54] <visham> IdleOne, is there a way to play .rm(real media) files on xfmedia player??
[02:54] <Blinker> oh, in grub?
[02:54] <PeterPowell> yes
[02:54] <PeterPowell> sorry
[02:54] <PeterPowell> mind went
[02:54] <snoops> wanting to eject a cdrom that's frozen because of a bad disk josh__
[02:54] <PeterPowell> grub
[02:54] <cowmilk> josh__: this is the first time I'm doing something with crontab. in other words, up to this point, i have had no crontab.
[02:54] <nexus6> visham, i suggest using mplayer for video playback
[02:54] <saik0> snoops, fuser the mount point
[02:54] <warlocky> fyrestrtr, can you join #wa.help for one second?
[02:54] <Blinker> yeah, you can change the order of that, but I forget the file name and where it's located
[02:54] <cowmilk> josh__: why don't you think it's a good idea to just open the crontab file in an editor?
[02:55] <dshgox> fyrestrtr:  Thanks!  I'll check it out.
[02:55] <josh__> snoops... grab a paperclip, bend it straight and push it in the little hole in the front of the cdrom
[02:55] <Blinker> PeterPowell: someone else in here can let you know the specifics now that we know what youre asking
[02:55] <PeterPowell> ok
[02:55] <visham> nexus6, can i get .deb package of mplayer anywhere on the net?
[02:55] <Jack_Sparrow> josh__: agreed..
[02:55] <ic56> cowmilk: assuming you created the file in ~/.crontab like I suggested, then run crontab /home/cowmilk/.crontab
[02:55] <PeterPowell> im a bit of a noob with linux
[02:55] <PeterPowell> and linux names
[02:55] <cowmilk> ic56: do i run that now?
[02:55] <snoops> josh__ gosh that's a horrible thing to do to a live disk :/
[02:55] <nexus6> visham, you can install it using apt-get install mplayer
[02:56] <Blinker> PeterPowell: right there with ya. <1-week in
[02:56] <josh__> cowmilk... because f you mess up u have no backup... creating a file of the crontab first would give you a backup and allow you to use your favorite editor
[02:56] <snoops> saik0 okay when I fuser the mount point /media/cdrom0 I get no results
[02:56] <josh__> snoops... it would just force the cd tray to pop out... not damage the disk
[02:56] <cowmilk> josh__: oh, so that's just like going to file manager on GUI and making a copy, eh?
[02:56] <visham> error:Couldn't find package mplayer
[02:56] <josh__> and since its just a live cd you have nothing to worry about as far as system errors
[02:56] <Blinker> !grub
[02:56] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:56] <josh__> yep cow
[02:56] <Jack_Sparrow> !boot
[02:56] <ubotu> Boot options: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto
[02:57] <nexus6> visham, what about mplayer-386
[02:57] <nexus6> you will possibly need to extend your sources.list file
[02:57] <visham> nexus6, error reported by apt-get "Couldn't find package mplayer"
[02:57] <IRCMonkeyX> !c++ > ircmonkeyx
[02:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about c++  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:57] <PeterPowell> brb
[02:57] <Girish> k
[02:57] <snoops> josh__ I guess I'm annoyed by that fix because I never had to do that in windows, because I could stop it in software, or just eject the cd (it doesn't lock it)
[02:57] <Blinker> PeterPowell: good luck
[02:57] <IRCMonkeyX> !c > ircmonkeyx
[02:57] <josh__> crontab -l > cron.input creates a cron.input file and drops everything already in cron into that file... then you edit and push the file back into crontab using the "crontab cron.input" command
[02:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about c  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:57] <chedabob> how do i stop quanta opening every frickin link?
[02:57] <cowmilk> ic56:  i have just run "crontab /home/cowmilk/.crontab"
[02:57] <visham> nexus6, same thing
[02:57] <ic56> cowmilk: Some versions of crontab (not the one on Linux), will insert a comment indicating the path from which the file was obtained.  It's a good habit to provide an absolute path to the crontab command so that *if* it provides this service, then full information will be placed in that comment.
[02:57] <chedabob> everytime i get a link in a convo, quanta opens it, and its so annoying
[02:57] <saik0> snoops, is it mounted?
[02:57] <nexus6> yes, you indeed have to write a new sources.list
[02:57] <ic56> cowmilk: you're done.
[02:57] <nexus6> wait a sec
[02:58] <snoops> saik0 yes to /media/cdrom0
[02:58] <cowmilk> ic56: thanks
[02:58] <Jack_Sparrow> snoops: You never ran XP live
[02:58] <ic56> cowmilk: if you use crontab -l, it will report the contents of the crontab
[02:58] <josh__> snoops well then do a sudo umount /media/cdrom0
[02:58] <snoops> I was copying files.. it froze, and the copy dialog is just sitting there
[02:58] <nexus6> visham, have a look at this http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/DapperGuide#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[02:58] <cowmilk> ic56:  is there a way to get some feedback every week, so that i know whether there was some error or whether it was succesful?
[02:58] <snoops> well going up actually..
[02:58] <ic56> cowmilk: the active copy of the crontab is kept in /var/spool/cron/crontabs
[02:58] <snoops> okay I'll umount it
[02:58] <nexus6> visham, do what is described there and then try to install mplayer
[02:58] <josh__> cowmilk... are you making backups of your crontab using crontab?
[02:59] <Jack_Sparrow> snoops: SOmeone here may have a term way of killing that process for you
[02:59] <snoops> the device is busy.. the response :)
[02:59] <cowmilk> josh__:  i don't know. ask ic56. 8-)
[02:59] <IRCMonkeyX> neutrinomass: may i talk to you in private ? i wanna ask some about c&c++ in linux
[02:59] <josh__> lol
[02:59] <saik0> snoops, amuse me and fuser the device again...
[02:59] <cowmilk> ic56: what's the significance of knowing that the active copy of crontab is at /var/spool/cron/crontabs?
[03:00] <tomveens> I'm having edubuntu for my two little brothers, but want to protect them a bit against sex en so I thought maybe there is somekind of a filter. Does anyone know something to use on edubuntu?
[03:00] <fyrestrtr> tomveens: squid :)
[03:00] <ic56> cowmilk: to get feedback, you should have the script mail you a report.  Alternately, if your system is configured with a local emailer, then any output that your script echo's will get emailed to you (cron perceives any text printed by a job to be an error so it emails you about it
[03:00] <tomveens> mean sex on the internet
[03:00] <nexus6> tomveens, are you using firefox as a browser?
[03:00] <tomveens> what?
[03:00] <tomveens> yes
[03:00] <snoops> saik0 'sudo fuser /dev/cdrom' right?
[03:00] <tomveens> firefox
[03:00] <nexus6> you have 2 possibilites
[03:00] <snoops> no process on it now
[03:00] <josh__> ic56 u dont need to do all that
[03:00] <saik0> snoops, yes
[03:00] <tomveens> okay
[03:00] <tomveens> what are they
[03:00] <snoops> not returning the process id's like it was before saik0
[03:00] <nexus6> 1. using a firefox extension to block it (although i can't remember one right now)
[03:00] <cowmilk> ic56:  how do i get an email?
[03:00] <fyrestrtr> tomveens: squid is a proxy server you can use to limit access to whatever you want.
[03:01] <josh__> just do this cow... create a directory called "/log"
[03:01] <nexus6> 2. install a proxyserver, like tinyproxy locally
[03:01] <cowmilk> ic56: i use gmail
[03:01] <dshgox> fyrestrtr:  Do you have a URL for superboot handy?  Google isn't finding it.
[03:01] <saik0> snoops, ask somebody smarter...
[03:01] <tomveens> okay
[03:01] <snoops> sigh :(
[03:01] <nexus6> depending on your machines speed, i suggest using tinyproxy for low-end pcs
[03:01] <josh__> tthen in your crontab add 2>&1 entry at the end of your entry
[03:01] <josh__> so something like this
[03:01] <VooDoo> woohoo, i've just been given permission to wipe my laptop of windows and install linux, so what do we reckon? SLED10? Ubuntu? Kubuntu?  hmmm not sure
[03:01] <nexus6> but you'd better look up a tutorial on setting up a proxy, so the firefox extension would be an easier way to go
[03:02] <Jack_Sparrow> VooDoo: try several live versions to see what best detects and supports your hardware, what type of lappy
[03:02] <LiteWait> anyone have orinoco gold "just working" on dapper?
[03:02] <squeechy> Voodoo, my opinion is k/ubuntu is not laptop-ready. Suse is better for that.
[03:02] <neutrinomass> IRCMonkeyX: Sure
[03:02] <tomveens> I thought maybe there was already something in edubuntu, because it's for kids. But it is a way of taking some freedom, and that is also not the main spirit
[03:02] <ic56> cowmilk, josh_ the significance of knowing it's location is (1) learning more about Linux (2) realizing that it's *not* in your home directory and this is *exactly* why I instructed you to create a copy in ~/.crontab instead of just using crontab -e .  If you maintain the practice of always managing your crontab file from ~/.crontab and then uploading it to the spool directory, you'll be sure to always have a private copy 
[03:02] <Jack_Sparrow> VooDoo: I have three lapys running linux
[03:02] <Jack_Sparrow> None of them suse
[03:03] <Blinker> squeechy: ubuntu set up pretty much no prob on my inspiron 6000
[03:03] <nexus6> tomveens, i agree :)
[03:03] <tomveens> I'll look for the firefox extension first I think
[03:03] <dshgox> fyrestrtr:  A superboot link?  Please?  I am not finding it.
[03:03] <ic56> cowmilk: end up in your backups (you *do* backups, don't you? \;-) ) or which will move with your home directory if you decide to change usernames or relocate to a different machine
[03:03] <nexus6> there are excellent adblock extensions for firefox, i suppose that you will have no problem finding a fitting one against pornography
[03:03] <VooDoo> jack_sparrow: its currently multi booting xp and ubuntu, i'm jsut not sure what linux to install for my GF who is used to windoze!
[03:03] <josh__> "00 4 * * * * /script/whatever > /output/whatever 2&>1
[03:03] <fyrestrtr> dshgox: http://adrian15.raulete.net/grub/tiki-index.php
[03:04] <nexus6> VooDoo, ubuntu is a good start into gnu/linux
[03:04] <tomveens> you're very helpfull
[03:04] <nexus6> my girlfriend is using it too and very happy with it :)
[03:04] <cowmilk> ic56: nope, i don't do backups
[03:04] <dshgox> fyrestrtr: Thanks!
[03:04] <squeechy> k/u lacks integrated security features commonly used on laptops: VPN client, firewall, encrypted home, WPA wireless.
[03:04] <tomveens> nexus6,
[03:04] <nexus6> yes?
[03:04] <josh__> that would run whatever script, when you want it to, then write an output file for that script everytime it runs giving you the errors and anything you "echo" in the script itself
[03:04] <Jack_Sparrow> VooDoo: My wife felt more comfortable with KDE than gnome so I went with Kubuntu and used the redmond theme for her
[03:04] <squeechy> Installing and setting up all that stuff piecemeal is a LOT of work.
[03:05] <VooDoo> jack_sparrow: no problems with video or mp3 or anything like that?
[03:05] <josh__> then you wont have to setup the smtp and all that other stuff...
[03:05] <Jack_Sparrow> squeechy: Are you saying there is NO firewall in Jubuntu...
[03:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Kubuntu
[03:05] <squeechy> there's no front-end for it.
[03:05] <tengil> whats the command to mount a dir on an already mounted partitions to an extra mountpoint?
[03:05] <josh__> Jack_Sparrow: other then default ip_tables? no
[03:05] <nexus6> tomveens, thanks for the compliment! i'm having a little trouble reading all the text here :)
[03:05] <IAskew> im using firestarter in kubuntu
[03:06] <Jack_Sparrow> squeechy: sAYING THERE IS nO FIREWALL IS VERY MISLEADING TO PEOPLE.
[03:06] <josh__> u have to dl it
[03:06] <Jack_Sparrow> darn caps lock
[03:06] <josh__> it doesn't come installed...
[03:06] <josh__> :)
[03:06] <josh__> better?
[03:06] <tomveens> nexus6, to fast? for me it is!
[03:06] <ic56> cowmilk: hang on, I lost my train of thought
[03:06] <Jack_Sparrow> josh__: That isnt a hard thing to do.
[03:06] <IAskew> no its all of sudo apt-get install firestarter
[03:06] <josh__> yeah its nothing hard to apt-get stuff
[03:06] <squeechy> Well assuming they know how to set it up with the config tools given (vi!) isn't exactly realistic.
[03:06] <fyrestrtr> !firewall
[03:06] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[03:07] <josh__> its alot harder to dpkg -i :P
[03:07] <nexus6> tomveens, haha yes indeed :)
[03:07] <fyrestrtr> you don't need firestarter or anything else.
[03:07] <IAskew> without a firewall, all my ports were closed, with firestarter, grc.com reports i have stealth on all ports
[03:07] <josh__> all you need is ip_tables... and you dont even really need that
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> agreed
[03:07] <nexus6> yes agree too
[03:08] <ic56> cowmilk, you still there?
[03:08] <snoops> hmm saik0 I found I could do lsof /media/cdrom0 on it, and it told me which nautilus thing was using it.. then I killed that process id
[03:08] <peti27> I checked drive permissions in the GUI but will not let me change it. The drive shows up in the media folder with the crdoms. I was trying ":/media$ sudo chmod u+rwx  "New Volume"
[03:08] <peti27> chmod: changing permissions of `New Volume': Read-only file system"
[03:08] <snoops> and whammo
[03:08] <josh__> tports wont be opened unless you are running a service that specifically ask for that port
[03:08] <snoops> but it killed nautilus, obviously so not a nice way to do it
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> But for someone to flat out say there is no firewall in Kubuntu is just WRONG
[03:08] <peti27> still won't work
[03:08] <squeechy> What about encrypted HD??? If I have a laptop stolen I want my stuff to be encrypted. The TODOs for k/u are nice for someone like me, but all that nursemaiding in the CLI means I cannot recommend the distro to most other people.
[03:08] <nexus6> iptables is an extremely powerful ruleset, but a little hard to see through if you are used to firewalls as standalone-programs
[03:08] <josh__> snoop sometimes you just have to kill it :)
[03:08] <josh__> its like windows lol
[03:08] <josh__> sometimes you just have to kill it and switch to linux :)
[03:08] <cowmilk> ic56: yes
[03:08] <dr_willis> squeechy,  if you want the security and want to know it well.. it worth the learning of the cli.
[03:09] <yamal> squeechy: encrypted filesystems are available on all linux distros for the last couple of years
[03:09] <ic56> cowmilk: ok, regarding emailing from your crontab
[03:09] <squeechy> I know the CLI. People I know don't know the CLI.
[03:09] <Jack_Sparrow> squeechy: If you have ANY interest in security, you would NOT be using windows
[03:09] <josh__> ic why are u having him email it?
[03:09] <josh__> lol jack
[03:09] <nexus6> peti27, that means you are using a readonly filesystem (surprise surprise), i suppose NTFS in this case
[03:09] <snoops> is there a way where I can make it so the cdrom isn't 'locked' when copying files from it? as in I press eject and it stops just ejects and ignores the process trying to access it josh__?
[03:09] <squeechy> I don't use Windows
[03:10] <cowmilk> josh__: why'd you recommend creating a dir called log, when the commands you gave did not refer to /log?
[03:10] <josh__> yes
[03:10] <fyrestrtr> snoops: no
[03:10] <VooDoo> kubuntu or ubuntu for newbies?  what do we think?
[03:10] <josh__> tnormally that is what happens
[03:10] <nexus6> VooDoo, a strong yes from my part.
[03:10] <squeechy> yamal, no GUI for it in k/u. Sorry.
[03:10] <cowmilk> ic56: isn't josh's way easier?
[03:10] <ic56> cowmilk: it doesn't look like Ubuntu has local email installed by default.  Apparently that's the right choice since you yourself don't collect mail on your local machine -- you read your mail on gmail's website.
[03:10] <josh__> cow... ok /log , /output... whatever is going to be easiest for you
[03:10] <Jack_Sparrow> VooDoo: run the live of each and let her decide
[03:10] <saik0> snoops, no i think th way windows does it is by ending any processes using the device and then ejecting
[03:10] <josh__> personally i use /output.... but you might like log... whatever
[03:10] <VooDoo> jack_sparrow: genius :)
[03:11] <yamal> squeechy: thank god for that. most of my systems dont have a gui at all
[03:11] <ic56> josh__ did you say something to me?  If you don't use my full nick, I don't notice your messages
[03:11] <Jack_Sparrow> VooDoo: the user interface is more of a personal choice for peoplke
[03:11] <alus> how can I install a python2.3 package and a python2.4 package at the same time?
[03:11] <peti27> Nexus6...That's right. The drive had been formated under Windows. I just installed Ubuntu a couple of days ago and try to use this drive with it. It could be because of the NTFS partition it must be read only?
[03:11] <snoops> saik0 hmm
[03:11] <fyrestrtr> alus: you can't.
[03:11] <alus> when I try to apt-get the python2.3 package, it wants to remove the python2.4 version
[03:11] <Jack_Sparrow> VooDoo: DO you prefer Chevy or Ford etc..
[03:11] <josh__> oh yeah i had asked you why u wanted to email...
[03:11] <alus> fyrestrtr: what
[03:11] <squeechy> yamal, hooray for you.
[03:11] <nexus6> peti27, although there is NTFS write support in ubuntu, it is still experimental and i would NOT suggest using it
[03:11] <fyrestrtr> alus: you can't have them both installed.
[03:11] <josh__> ic56: it would be easier to just make cron create and output file for the script
[03:11] <cowmilk> yeah, josh__ please use full nicks. do so my pressing tab key after a few letters
[03:12] <nexus6> the best way to go if you want to use your usb drive on windows/linux is to format it on fat32
[03:12] <alus> fyrestrtr: I've seen it before
[03:12] <Jack_Sparrow> peti27: NTFS has experimental write.. but I do NOT suggest it...
[03:12] <VooDoo> jack_sparrow: yup good point.....i prefer ubuntu, but i've got to install something that she will like and use, or i'll hear about it for months ;)
[03:12] <nexus6> i myself tried to format it to ext3 and use the ext3 driver for windows to read, but no success
[03:12] <cowmilk> josh__, ic56: here's is josh's advice: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20072
[03:12] <josh__> yeah i know cowmilk but im used to using a DEC Alpha system and it doesn't have tab completion
[03:12] <Jack_Sparrow> VooDoo: exactly
[03:12] <fyrestrtr> alus: you can't do it through apt, you might have to manually install it, but I don't recommend you go that route. Why do you want two different versions of python?
[03:12] <Jack_Sparrow> VooDoo: you can dual boot Ubuntu and Kubuntu
[03:12] <yamal> squeechy: simple fact of life is that gui is sub-optimal at best for configuration, especially when the application itself does not use/need a gui
[03:12] <Samuli^> anyone know if there's graphing calculator like graphcalc for gnome?
[03:12] <peti27> Thx!
[03:12] <ic56> cowmilk: I'd recommend adding to your script a few commands to log into a local file, all you want done.
[03:13] <alus> fyrestrtr: becuase I build packages for both versions
[03:13] <ic56> cowmilk: looking at josh__'s advice
[03:13] <alus> fyrestrtr: this should obviously be supported
[03:13] <VooDoo> jack_sparrow: yeah i don't really fancy doing that, i'll try her on the live cd idea!
[03:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Samuli^: I take it you are using kde...
[03:13] <squeechy> yamal, keep pontificating.
[03:13] <josh__> 5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * /scripts/upload > /scripts/log/upload.out 2>&1
[03:13] <Samuli^> Jack_Sparrow, I'm using gnome, that's why I ask.
[03:13] <peti27> Anyone ever installed wireshark/ethereal under ubuntu? While is not in the package list?
[03:13] <josh__> that is an example entry in my crontab
[03:14] <fyrestrtr> you don't need to 'dual boot' kubuntu ubuntu. Its just linux. Start with whatever you want, add the other on top of it later. Then just choose the session you want from the login manager.
[03:14] <saik0> snoops....hold on a second....did you say it was a live cd?
[03:14] <cowmilk> josh__: it would be cool too to have that log file, when there are new things added, to have that log file pop up, just in case i forget to check it.
[03:14] <josh__> it echos anything i "print" in the script along with any errors into a file called upload.out
[03:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Samuli^: If nothing else you can install graphcalc in KDE, it will just pull in a fair amount of Gnome stuff to run it, I run many kde apps in Ubuntu
[03:14] <VooDoo> ok thanks a lot speak to you all later!
[03:14] <Jack_Sparrow> VooDoo: good luck
[03:15] <josh__> the why i have it setup though it overwrites the file everytime it runs...
[03:15] <ic56> cowmilk: josh__'s advice on pastebin is good.  Recording the output from the crontab ensures that, even if the script has bugs and fails to output a status, you'll get a record of the error messages generated.
[03:15] <AdamB> hello?
[03:15] <josh__> if you would like to just append the file change the > to a >>
[03:15] <Samuli^> Jack_Sparrow, I know, but I don't want all that stuff from KDE though and doesn't QT apps look like crap in gnome?
[03:15] <cowmilk> josh__: when you say "append", you mean that previous message wo'nt be erased, yes?
[03:15] <josh__> yes
[03:15] <nexus6>  Samuli^ there is an easy way to make QTapps fit into gnome if you don't like the look
[03:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Samuli^: They look fine to me..
[03:16] <nexus6> but i've never had troubles with it
[03:16] <josh__> > will overwrite the file each time it is run, >> will just add to the file each time the script is run
[03:16] <cowmilk> i'm such a rookie. what exactly do i add to my crontab?
[03:16] <josh__> 5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * /scripts/upload > /scripts/log/upload.out 2>&1
[03:16] <josh__> copy that and make the changes
[03:16] <Samuli^> hmm, ok.. thanks guys. Do you know if there's graphcalc package for ubuntu somewhere?
[03:16] <cowmilk> josh__: that's my problem. what changes should i make? i don't know.
[03:16] <josh__> or just use it as an example
[03:16] <AdamB> well I'm a newb here, and I actually managed to install Ubuntu onto my hard drive (shock), could somebody redirect me to where I can get some help connecting to the internet? it worked with livecd but after install nogo, senses ethernet pci card..
[03:16] <josh__> ok
[03:16] <ic56> cowmilk: (re: pop ups) one thing at a time.  Lets create the log file first
[03:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Samuli^: Unless you have a maginal hardware setup I would not think twice about the overhead of being able to select kde or gnome apps
[03:17] <Miek> you can use */5 rather than 5,10,15,etc.
[03:17] <cowmilk> ic56: ok. step by step
[03:17] <Da_Putzler> Hi guys... can someone plz help me with my Mouse side-buttons... cant seem to get them working properly ???
[03:17] <warlocky> !pastebin
[03:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:17] <fyrestrtr> !mouse > Da_Putzler
[03:17] <cowmilk> Miek: thanks for the tip.
[03:17] <Samuli^> I really wouldn't like to manually download all those kde-packages needed.
[03:17] <josh__> you wont need to, cron will create the file... u just have to make the directory and make it 777 attrib
[03:17] <ishorseman> Samuli^,  look at gnuplot
[03:17] <Da_Putzler> thx fyrestrtr
[03:17] <qwerty2k> Da_Putzler, is it a logitech mouse?
[03:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Samuli^: you dont need to do it manually... use synaptic, pick your app and it does the rest
[03:18] <IAskew> i have ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu and edubuntu on this laptop
[03:18] <nexus6> Samuli^, what about gcalctool ?
[03:18] <josh__> so do "cd /"
[03:18] <josh__> "mkdir output"
[03:18] <Samuli^> Jack_Sparrow, but graphcalc isn't in the repositories.
[03:18] <IAskew> also have fluxbox
[03:18] <nexus6> apt-cache search gcalctool
[03:18] <nexus6> gcalctool - A GTK2 desktop calculator
[03:18] <Samuli^> nexus6, I don't know. I can't seem to find how to draw expressions in it.
[03:18] <cowmilk> josh__: me do "cd /"?
[03:18] <fyrestrtr> Samuli^: sudo apt-get install graphmonkey
[03:18] <cowmilk> josh__:  i don't know who you are talking to.
[03:18] <cowmilk> oh , i guess you are
[03:18] <Upayavira> Can I use dd to copy a mounted partition?
[03:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Samuli^: I never heard of it. Where are you getting it.
[03:19] <squeechy> Startup problem... system insists on mounting firewire drive even if its not attached (drive is listed as 'noauto' in fstab). System WON'T BOOT if drive is not attached.
[03:19] <cowmilk> coz i see the word, output.
[03:19] <houssem> !sudo
[03:19] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:19] <ic56> josh__: some of your advice is ill conceived.  This is a personal crontab.  Dumping it's output in the root directory and using 777 perms creates a security hole
[03:19] <mikolan> what's the name of that app that lets me change the dpi of my logetch mouse?
[03:19] <Samuli^> fyrestrtr, Tried that already. Seemed limited to me. There's no tracing the graph for instance.
[03:19] <houssem> how to create a root account ?
[03:19] <josh__> sorry... cowmilk yes... do a "cd /"
[03:19] <IAskew> Upayavira, dd copies blank spaces too
[03:19] <ic56> cowmilk: see my message to josh__
[03:19] <cowmilk> josh__: i may forget that i created an 'output" dir.
[03:19] <fyrestrtr> houssem: why? use sudo.
[03:19] <josh__> that will take you to root filesystem
[03:19] <houssem> how please ?
[03:19] <AdamB> ok going to ask again, internet help please redirect so dont spam here, or whisper or something.... ty
[03:19] <cowmilk> josh__: can i create a directory within my /documents/ dir?
[03:19] <fyrestrtr> !sudo > houssem
[03:19] <josh__> cowmilk: that is why you are putting it in "/"
[03:19] <Bag-ad> installer crash ubuntu 6.06. Error running "modprobe -v amd76xrom", in terminal FATAL: Error inserting amd76xrom (/lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/kernel/drivers/mtd/maps/amd76xrom.ko): No such device. I realy dont understand why the installer crashes at this point. any workarounds?
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Samuli^: You can always apt-get install Kubuntu-desktop  to load up the kde stuff or reverse that for gnome
[03:20] <josh__> or you can do that
[03:20] <houssem> !sudo
[03:20] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:20] <Upayavira> IAskew: Want the simplest way to make a disc image of /home onto a USB drive. GUI nice but not necesary
[03:20] <josh__> cowmilk: put the directory anywhere you want to
[03:20] <cowmilk> ic56: i saw your advice to josh__ (re: security risk). so what do you suggest?
[03:20] <Samuli^> Jack_Sparrow, yeah, but that's like 400 MB of stuff I don't need. Thanks anyways.
[03:20] <houssem> please fyrestrtr what options ?
[03:20] <cowmilk> josh__: what do you say about ic56's concern?
[03:21] <josh__> cowmilk: drop it in /home/username
[03:21] <josh__> whatever your user is
[03:21] <ic56> cowmilk: modify your .crontab file to contain this line:  17 4 * * 7 /home/cowmilk/documents/dl >>/home/cowmilk/log/dl >&2
[03:21] <IAskew> Upayavira, if its mounted, im sorry, i cant help you but point to gparted/partimage
[03:21] <fyrestrtr> houssem: why do you want to create a root account? for what purpose? You don't need it in ubuntu. If you want to do things as root, just type sudo and then the command.
[03:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Samuli^: Your choice,  If is something you cant live without you could take the source and write your own version
[03:21] <Da_Putzler> fyrestrtr, dude, those sites dont actually show anything, even the links dont work properly...
[03:21] <tomveens> nexus6, the procon addon works : https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1803/
[03:21] <Bag-ad> installer crash ubuntu 6.06. Error running "modprobe -v amd76xrom", in terminal FATAL: Error inserting amd76xrom (/lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/kernel/drivers/mtd/maps/amd76xrom.ko): No such device. I realy dont understand why the installer crashes at this point. any workarounds?
[03:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Wife needs my help back in a bit
[03:21] <Samuli^> Jack_Sparrow, hehe, yeah. That should be easy :)
[03:21] <cowmilk> ic56: how do you suggest i open my crontab  file?
[03:21] <cowmilk> with a text editor, yes?
[03:21] <josh__> change the >&2 at the end to 2>&1
[03:21] <houssem> !su
[03:21] <ubotu> I know nothing about su - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:22] <Upayavira> IAskew: thx. I figured mounted would be a problem. Will probably just use a cp derivative
[03:22] <warlocky> saik0, you there?
[03:22] <josh__> cowmilk "crontab -l /home/cowmilk/cron.input
[03:22] <saik0> Upayavira, why not simply tar it?
[03:22] <houssem> i have to modify /etc/hosts
[03:22] <ic56> $u3: yes. edit your local copy of .crontab
[03:22] <saik0> warlocky, no
[03:22] <JoshX> hello, is there a known bug with dapper drake and losing the routing table at random intervals?
[03:22] <wor> Hello JoshX
[03:22] <ThAixStYLe> hello folks...
[03:22] <josh__> then once u have created the file... edit that file
[03:22] <fyrestrtr> houssem: hit alt+f2, type gksudo gedit /etc/hosts and hit enter
[03:22] <JoshX> my colo machine 'just loses' the routing table
[03:22] <ic56> cowmilk: yes. edit your local copy of .crontab
[03:22] <peti27> Anyone ever installed wireshark/ethereal under ubuntu? While is not in the package list?
[03:22] <nexus6> tomveens, thanks for the feedback! i will remember this extension :)
[03:22] <ThAixStYLe> can any one help me out with a windows/ubuntu dual boot setup?
[03:22] <JoshX> every now and then... it has a fixed IP address, 1 interface
[03:23] <Upayavira> saik0: Hrm. tar a 45Gb partition?
[03:23] <cowmilk> josh__:  ic56. hold on. are what you 2 are saying compatible?
[03:23] <nexus6> tomveens, maybe you want to post it in ubuntuforums.org for other users to benefit :)
[03:23] <AdamB> ok can somebody at least acknowledge they hear me? test test test... 1. 2. 3
[03:23] <ThAixStYLe> i screwed up somewhere and i need to know how to fix it...or at least what i did wrong...
[03:23] <ic56> cowmilk: josh__'s correction is right.  that line should end in 2>&1  My mistake
[03:23] <Bag-ad> installer crash ubuntu 6.06. Error running "modprobe -v amd76xrom", in terminal FATAL: Error inserting amd76xrom (/lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/kernel/drivers/mtd/maps/amd76xrom.ko): No such device. I realy dont understand why the installer crashes at this point. any workarounds?
[03:23] <josh__> cowmilk:  yes
[03:23] <houssem>  ok thanks
[03:23] <r000t> someone pls help me understand where the forcedethdriver is when you try "make menuconfig" in dapper
[03:23] <warlocky> saik0, well, can you help me out a second perhaps to solve this problem? -> everything runs slowly, logging into SSH runs slowly, still I am on lan with it (100/100mbit) and its a xeon server ,been working before until i changed the interfaces fil.
[03:23] <warlocky> file *
[03:23] <josh__> we are saying the same thing...
[03:23] <fyrestrtr> peti27: ethereal is in the package list.
[03:23] <houssem> so i will not a root account ?
[03:23] <bretzel> Hi Everyone :-)
[03:23] <fyrestrtr> houssem: no
[03:24] <nexus6> !sudo
[03:24] <saik0> Upayavira, if you just want a simple backup tar makes more sense than a disk image, at least it does t me...
[03:24] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:24] <houssem> ok thnx
[03:24] <josh__> cowmilk: once you have created the cron.input file... open it with an editor, put the line you want in, save it, then do "crontab "filename"" whatever your filename is
[03:24] <tomveens> nexus6, Have an Idea where? I noticed that I'm very bad in putting it under the right subjects
[03:24] <ic56> josh__: you are advising cowmilk without regard to his actual environment.  Please pay attention to what has been said before and what files he has actually created.
[03:24] <cowmilk> josh__:  ic56 ok. i've now added  17 4 * * 7 /home/cowmilk/documents/dl >>/home/cowmilk/log/dl 2>&1 to my personal .crontab file
[03:25] <fyrestrtr> cowmilk: you need a space >> /home not >>/home
[03:25] <cowmilk> josh__: and for your info, the file that i've cerated is /home/cowmilk/.crontab
[03:25] <ic56> cowmilk: good.  Now re-issue the "crontab /home/cowmilk/.crontab" command
[03:25] <M_Fatih> hi all
[03:25] <josh__> cowmilk ok.. .that works too :)
[03:25] <cowmilk> fyrestrtr: thanks for your eyes
[03:25] <fuzzybunny> hello all
[03:25] <ic56> fyrestrtr: incorrect.  no space needed around > or >>
[03:25] <peti27> fyrestrtr...While I can not find it when searching for it?
[03:25] <kallei> I'm having problems with synaptic. When started, the following error message is displayed: E: The package jedit needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report.    What should i do?
[03:25] <ic56> cowmilk: see my message to fyrestrtr
[03:26] <fyrestrtr> !info ethereal
[03:26] <cowmilk> ic56: ok. i'me removing the space.
[03:26] <ubotu> ethereal: network traffic analyzer. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.99.0-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 564 kB, installed size 1500 kB
[03:26] <josh__> ic56: u do need a space before and after the >
[03:26] <Bag-ad> hi.. is there any alternative installation methods than the normal gui thing that ubuntu comes with. the python installer keeps dieing on me
[03:26] <fyrestrtr> peti27: enable universe
[03:26] <Upayavira> saik0: And you can create 45Gb tar files?
[03:26] <cowmilk> josh__: is that so?
[03:26] <ic56> cowmilk: the space doesn't do harm. It's just unnecessary.
[03:26] <dr_willis> Bag-ad,  the alternate install cd has a text based installer.
[03:26] <M_Fatih> i'm trying to integrate subversion to my serving a www project. when i import a project, my project files goes where? i can't see my files all in my created svn repo.. where is my files?
[03:26] <peti27> I do not have a repostory UNIVERSE! How can I get it?
[03:26] <fyrestrtr> Upayavira: use the alternate install cd.
[03:26] <techno_freak> Bag-ad: what about apt-get ?
[03:26] <fuzzybunny> can anyone help me?
[03:26] <squeechy> kallei: try 'apt-get -f install'
[03:26] <fyrestrtr> !repositories > peti27
[03:26] <josh__> cowmilk: ill add an entry without spaces and let you know
[03:26] <warlocky> How can I see if im using eth0 or eth1, and if I wish to put a static ip address, which one should I use ?
[03:27] <cowmilk> josh__: ok
[03:27] <tuxtux> ciao
[03:27] <ic56> cowmilk, josh__: what's all this talk about ">"?  I thought cowmilk wanted to *append*.  Therefore he needs a ">>" (and no spaces betweeen teh two ">" symbols
[03:27] <freebuntu> uhhh are they just hidden? or in the temp directory???
[03:27] <Bag-ad> well.. i can alway chroot into my disk and do stuff manualy. but im to lazy
[03:27] <pedro_> hello, is anyone running ubuntu on a laptop with sata discs ?
[03:27] <cowmilk> in the meantime, what is the next step after adding  17 4 * * 7 /home/cowmilk/documents/dl >>/home/cowmilk/log/dl 2>&1
[03:27] <freebuntu> yes fuzzybunny????????
[03:27] <techno_freak> pedro_: here!
[03:27] <fuzzybunny> freebuntu, hi
[03:27] <saik0> pedro_ i was before it was stolen
[03:27] <squeechy> kallei: you will need to exist synaptic first, and add sudo to the front of the command 'apt-get -f install'
[03:28] <josh__> with either the > or the >> you have to have a space before and after
[03:28] <pedro_> techno_freak, are you having problems with that?
[03:28] <peti27> fyrestrtr: !repositories > peti27 - should I run it in a terminal session?
[03:28] <techno_freak> pedro_: try dapper drake
[03:28] <pedro_> saik0, ugh thats socks...
[03:28] <ic56> josh__: incorrect.
[03:28] <pedro_> techno_freak, im running dapper
[03:28] <fuzzybunny> freebuntu, I have a ubuntu 5.10 ISO and am unable to d/l the massive current ISO
[03:28] <techno_freak> pedro_: your is AMD procs or Intel ?
[03:28] <pedro_> Intel
[03:28] <kallei> squeechy: Reading package lists... Done
[03:28] <kallei> Building dependency tree... Done
[03:28] <kallei> E: The package jedit needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[03:28] <pedro_> the HD is ok, but my dvd device is not
[03:28] <techno_freak> pedro_: whats ur probs ?
[03:28] <fuzzybunny> freebuntu, is there a way I can install 5.10 and upgrade to 6.x?
[03:28] <santa99> hi guys
[03:28] <Da_Putzler> hi santa
[03:28] <ic56> josh__: incorrect.  No spaces around > or >> are needed.  This is basic shell syntax: the > and >> are tokens that are distinguished without need of context.
[03:28] <fyrestrtr> peti27: go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and find out how to enable universe and multiverse
[03:29] <santa99> so i have a problem with my /mnt
[03:29] <saik0> Upayavira, yes you can. DIfferent backup methods and mediums all have their pros and cons. Use whatever you think will work best
[03:29] <freebuntu> HEY TechnoFreak! what's yer fav techno streamtuner station or group or whatever, I'm learning to love techno! + MIDI???
[03:29] <strangy> !openvz
[03:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about openvz - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:29] <peti27> thx!
[03:29] <Da_Putzler> Q.) Does anyone have a Trust Optical Mouse with side-buttons that are working ok in 6.06 ???
[03:29] <techno_freak> pedro_: is it getting detected ?
[03:29] <pedro_> techno_freak, the dvd device is not found
[03:29] <Khamael> is there an easy way to change the kernel and modules from k7 to i686? when I try to uninstall the k7 stuff in synaptic, it wants to install and upgrade more k7 stuff
[03:29] <pedro_> is not
[03:29] <Upayavira> saik0: thx
[03:29] <santa99> i want to mount something into it but i cant create folders with read/write in there for users
[03:29] <mikolan> If I install xp on another partition and it fucks up my MBR can I fix it through the netboot installer?
[03:29] <techno_freak> pedro_: oho
[03:29] <josh__> ic56: well i just added an entry without the spaces... in a sec i will see if the new upload.test.out file is created
[03:29] <squeechy> kallei: try 'sudo dpkg -r jedit'
[03:29] <ic56> cowmilk: After editing your .crontab file, re-issue the "crontab /home/cowmilk/.crontab" command.
[03:29] <fyrestrtr> !grub > mikolan
[03:29] <bretzel> Q: How is Compiz-KDE at this time (for Dapper indeed ) ?
[03:30] <josh__> ic56: but i believe it is needed or cron thinks ur just running files together...
[03:30] <squeechy> that will remove jedit
[03:30] <freebuntu> fuzzybunny, get an account at 50megs.com or something and with some download pgm have the file go to that instead!
[03:30] <techno_freak> pedro_: DVD R/W ?
[03:30] <saik0> santa99, what filesystem is it you're mounting?
[03:30] <pedro_> techno_freak, yes
[03:30] <cowmilk> ic56: josh__to confirm. we can either A) test it out or B) check the linux manual (if there's any).
[03:30] <kallei> squeechy: sudo dpkg -r jedit
[03:30] <kallei> dpkg: error processing jedit (--remove):
[03:30] <kallei>  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[03:30] <kallei>  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[03:30] <kallei> Errors were encountered while processing:
[03:30] <kallei>  jedit
[03:30] <josh__> ic56: i could be wrong but i just want to make sure now
[03:30] <saik0> !flood
[03:30] <fyrestrtr> bretzel: #ubuntu-xgl
[03:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:30] <freebuntu> also some webdrive, or some name like that, let's you grab file to space on net
[03:30] <strangy> has anyone here had success in building a openvz kernel that supportedthe same stuff as the ubuntu kernels ?? when i build it my network does not work (DSL) and my sound does not work
[03:30] <freebuntu> then usually that space is more d/l friendly & competent
[03:30] <fuzzybunny> freebuntu, is there just an easier way?  like download via FTP instead of http?
[03:30] <bretzel> fyrestrtr: Thanks I am going there :-)
[03:30] <Ekumba> hello everybody
[03:30] <mikolan> thanks :)
[03:30] <ic56> josh__, cowmilk: cron just invokes bash.  It doesn't have its own syntax.  Save yourself the trouble and test on the command line
[03:30] <fuzzybunny> freebuntu, that way if it dies then I can resume?
[03:31] <josh__> ok... well bash needs the spaces....
[03:31] <santa99> saik0, NTFS but don't mind it i have found drivers which are functioning and I know that I can lose all my data on the partition
[03:31] <ic56> cowmilk: I have read the Linux manual ;-)
[03:31] <cowmilk> ic56: ok.
[03:31] <warlocky> how do I check what "network" ip I have?
[03:31] <ic56> josh__: show me a command where you think the spaces are needed.
[03:32] <josh__> cowmilk: he could very well be right..
[03:32] <fyrestrtr> http://www.whatismyip.com
[03:32] <cowmilk> ic56 josh__  says bash need spaces
[03:32] <santa99> saik0, I only want to know how I could get Read/write permissions for me (the user) for the folder in mnt
[03:32] <Ekumba> does anyone know,how to use wine?i habe downloaded a game called freespace 2.it it freeware:http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,39499.0.html.and now i want to use it unter linux.how do i do this with wine?...
[03:32] <freebuntu> well, can't ya? like ftp://ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu6.06_xyz.deb or whutevah?
[03:32] <cowmilk> josh__: ok. so is ic56 correct?
[03:32] <santa99> saik0, maybe you know captive
[03:32] <santa99> !captive
[03:32] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[03:32] <pedro_> techno_freak, the freak thing is that if i turn off the acpi and on the apm it works
[03:32] <krimzon> how do i fix grub so that my old windows partition boots?
[03:32] <fyrestrtr> Ekumba: first, find out if its supported under wine. Go to http://appdb.winehq.org and look for your game.
[03:32] <pedro_> but with apm i don't have wireless, haha
[03:32] <josh__> cowmilk: lemme check my log directory
[03:32] <warlocky> how can I find out the network ip I have to set in /etc/network/intefcaces?
[03:32] <NeoThermic> Is it possible to get the development version of Ubuntu via an ISO?
[03:32] <JoshX> hello, is there a known bug with dapper drake and losing the routing table at random intervals?
[03:33] <JoshX> my colo machine 'just loses' the routing table
[03:33] <squeechy> kallei: 'sudo dpkg -r --force-remove-reinstreq jedit'
[03:33] <techno_freak> pedro_: quite odd
[03:33] <Blinker> hey, anyone know how ubuntu handles sound processing requests? i just noticed that an embedded flash movies audio wasn't working while I had rythmbox open and playing
[03:33] <saik0> santa99, NTFS has no permissions and ownership. You would need to assign it a uid and gid and give it a umask
[03:33] <josh__> cowmilk: ic56 ic56 is correct, you dont need the spaces
[03:33] <cowmilk> josh__: please do
[03:33] <ic56> josh__: just do this: echo blab>newfile   It will work.
[03:33] <fyrestrtr> warlocky: it needs to be in the same subnet and with the same mask as other machines on your network.
[03:33] <cowmilk> josh__: ok thanks for cechking
[03:33] <techno_freak> pedro_: acpi can affect other devices like sound too, sometimes
[03:33] <santa99> saiko, ok is this possible with the mount command ?
[03:33] <fuzzybunny> freebuntu, I'm trying to connect but can't login
[03:33] <josh__> that will save me about 400 spaces in my bash scripts lol
[03:33] <fyrestrtr> Blinker: your soundcard probably doesn't support simultaneous streams (is it a built in card?) Try the dmix extention to alsa (!dmix)
[03:33] <Blinker> josh__: anything worth sharing?
[03:34] <techno_freak> pedro_: checked bugzilla ?
[03:34] <Blinker> fyrestrtr: it does
[03:34] <santa99> saik0, my actual command for mounting it looks like: sudo mount -t captive-ntfs -o --rw /dev/hda5 /mnt/hda5
[03:34] <ic56> cowmilk: now create the log directory.  Like so: cd; mkdir log
[03:34] <freebuntu> that was a madeup account! find the real one!
[03:34] <kallei> squeechy:  worked! thanks!
[03:34] <squeechy> :-)
[03:34] <cowmilk> ic56: josh__wait.
[03:34] <pedro_> i'm doing it
[03:34] <josh__> lol sure Blinker, you dont need a space in front of and before >/>> in cron
[03:34] <josh__> tlol
[03:34] <freebuntu> but it proves you COULD connect, see???\
[03:34] <josh__> yes cowmilk ?
[03:34] <warlocky> fyrestrtr, yeah. and exactly how do I check that is the question? :/
[03:34] <cowmilk> ic56: josh__i'm confusing myself 8-). on my comp, i'm not cowmilk.
[03:34] <saik0> santa99, yes. but you need to edit the /etc/fstab file for a more permanent solution. Please put the contents of that file in pastebin and give me the link
[03:34] <ic56> cowmilk: the cd without arguments takes you to your home directory.   You were probably already there, but instructing you this way saved me some typing.
[03:34] <josh__> lol
[03:34] <saik0> !pastebin > santa99
[03:34] <josh__> !!
[03:34] <Samuli^> Blinker, I think it has to do with ALSA, OSS, ESD etc. So you need to tinker their settings.
[03:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about ! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:35] <santa99> saik0, ok
[03:35] <fyrestrtr> warlocky: you said you had dhcp, enable dhcp and see what address you get. That will tell you the subnet mask and gateway information
[03:35] <freebuntu> Anyone know the correct d/l ftp url for sillyrabbit??? ooops fuzzybunny...
[03:35] <cowmilk> ic56: josh__ i'm "jeff" on my computer. so i have this line in .crontab: 17 4 * * 7 /home/jeff/documents/sermon-download >>/home/jeff/log/dl 2>&1
[03:35] <cowmilk> 
[03:35] <AdamB> can someone help me with internet?
[03:35] <Blinker> Samuli^: righto. guess thats something to save for the weekend, heh
[03:35] <freebuntu> Silly Rabbit, Ubuntu's for Kids!!!
[03:35] <santa99> !captice
[03:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about captice - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:35] <AdamB> livecd ubuntu internet worked, after hd install it doesnt.... help?
[03:35] <santa99> !captive
[03:35] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[03:35] <warlocky> wait, fyrestrtr, - so the network ip has to do with the DHCP srever?
[03:35] <ic56> cowmilk: surely, if you are not known as "cowmilk" on your own computer, you modified the lines we gave you accordingly.
[03:35] <Khamael> is there a command to fix broken packages?
[03:35] <josh__> or you could change it to this ~/log/dl 2>&1
[03:35] <ic56> cowmilk: yes. that line looks good
[03:35] <Ekumba> okay fyrestrtr:i have found it under search options of the page u send me.and what now`
[03:36] <santa99> saik0, this pastebin needs so long to save
[03:36] <freebuntu> cowmilk known as cottage_cheese as root
[03:36] <Blinker> Khamael: its a menu option in synaptic package manager
[03:36] <krimzon> i need help quickly configuring grub, can anyone help?
[03:36] <cowmilk> but as i said, i want the output/log file to be in my home/jeff/documents directory, because if it's in /log/, i may forget that the file is there
[03:36] <josh__> ~/ = user directory
[03:36] <fyrestrtr> warlocky: if you are setting up a static ip, you need to know the gateway ip address, and the subnet mask to find out what ip address you should give.
[03:36] <ic56> josh__: No!  do *not* instruct cowmilk to use relative pathnames in a crontab
[03:36] <Cyorxamp> !ati
[03:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:36] <Khamael> Blinker: ok. thanks
[03:36] <josh__> ok
[03:36] <fyrestrtr> Ekumba: found...what?
[03:36] <josh__> dont do that cow
[03:36] <Blinker> Khamael: np
[03:36] <santa99> !pastebin
[03:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:36] <Samuli^> Blinker, it shouldn't be too hard to solve though.. for instance if you're using esd now, try to change it to alsa or oss and see if that solves the problem.
[03:36] <fyrestrtr> !msgthebot > santa99
[03:36] <ic56> cowmilk: NEVER assume environment variables are setup in cron.  Use absolute pathnames.
[03:37] <cowmilk> ic56: ok. so if relative paths are bad, what should i use instead of 17 4 * * 7 /home/jeff/documents/sermon-download >>/home/jeff/log/dl 2>&1
[03:37] <tomveens> !canonical
[03:37] <ubotu> Canonical Ltd. is committed to the development, distribution and promotion of open source software products, and to providing tools and support to the open source community. It is the driving force behind the Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and Edubuntu Operating Systems. Canonical's website is at http://www.canonical.com/
[03:37] <Blinker> Samuli^: option in a .conf or similar file?
[03:37] <tomveens> wow
[03:37] <freebuntu> YO! Anyone accepting Paypal to tweak things, and help out with code??? How Much???
[03:37] <Ekumba> frystrtr:die game freespace 2
[03:37] <ic56> cowmilk: these are absolute pathnames.  they are good.
[03:37] <tomveens> !freespace
[03:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about freespace - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:37] <fyrestrtr> Ekumba: is it supported?
[03:37] <saik0> santa99, what are the permissions you want. All to read, your user to write, and nobody to execute?
[03:37] <cowmilk> ic56: ok
[03:37] <santa99> fyrestrtr, sorry always forgetting about messaging the bot
[03:37] <dr_willis> freebuntu,  you are the winner of the oddest thing to ask today contest.
[03:37] <fyrestrtr> !msgthebot > tomveens
[03:37] <ic56> cowmilk: an absolute pathname is one which begins with a slash
[03:37] <ic56> cowmilk: all the others are relative
[03:38] <santa99> saik0, i want to read and write as user
[03:38] <marcel__> how do you guys configure wireless for ubuntu?
[03:38] <freebuntu> YES!!! I've tried SOOOO hard to win that one...
[03:38] <ic56> cowmilk: do you understand why they are called that?
[03:38] <Samuli^> Blinker, There should be gui-program in the gnome system menu, me thinks. (I'm using xfce4, so can't check it out)
[03:38] <santa99> saik0, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20077
[03:38] <fuzzybunny> freebuntu, I'm running a athlon64 and virtual PC
[03:38] <fyrestrtr> marcel__: mine worked out of the box :)
[03:38] <fuzzybunny> freebuntu, Im' a linux dummy
[03:38] <cowmilk> i don't want output to be in /home/jeff/log/. i want the output (log) to be /home/jeff/documents/log. is this an okay idea, josh__ , ic56?
[03:38] <freebuntu> Is it still the dvd box set like last time?
[03:38] <Ekumba> don't know.there isn't any wine nr or version.but i have found the game:http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=1168
[03:38] <freebuntu> What did I win????
[03:38] <fyrestrtr> !wine > Ekumba
[03:38] <cowmilk> ic56: yes, relatives are called so because you get different results based on your pwd, correct?
[03:38] <josh__> ic56: just out of curiousity... whats wrong with it? u say dont assume variables... a users cron doesn't care... it knows what user and assumes /home/user anyway
[03:39] <dr_willis> freebuntu,  a lot of funny stares and puzzled looks.
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> A free cd of ubuntu
[03:39] <marcel__> thanks
[03:39] <warlocky> fyrestrtr, I hate the gateway address, can that help somehow to find out the network ip?
[03:39] <Ekumba> ?
[03:39] <cowmilk> while absolute paths are "safer" as they have the same result regardless of your pwd, correct, ic56?
[03:39] <tomveens> fyrestrtr, where are these bots for?
[03:39] <warlocky> the ip to the server is 213.xxx.236.95 atm, can i do anything with that ? :(
[03:39] <freebuntu> well, shoot, I got plenty of them...
[03:39] <fyrestrtr> tomveens: helping us to help you.
[03:39] <josh__> cowmilk: yeah you can do that... but if you have alot of different log files you will want to classify them later
[03:39] <Samuli^> blinker, check this out: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449&highlight=alsa
[03:39] <saik0> santa99 give me a minute i have to refresh my memory
[03:39] <tomveens> what do they know?
[03:39] <fyrestrtr> warlocky: that looks like your internet address, what is your local network address?
[03:39] <Blinker> Samuli^: only thing I can find is an ESD checkbox under sys>pref's>sound
[03:40] <cowmilk> josh__: i think i'll have just this one, though i can't guarrantee this
[03:40] <josh__> warlocky: yeah... lol scan the subnet... u only have 255 to go :)
[03:40] <Da_Putzler> fyrestrtr, I used XEV to check button mappings on my mouse and the back/forward buttons are 8 and 9... does this mean I have to change MouseButtons to 9 instead of 7 ???
[03:40] <santa99> saik0, ok do so
[03:40] <fyrestrtr> !ubotu > tomveens
[03:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about > tomveens - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:40] <warlocky> josh__, oh shit
[03:40] <josh__> cowmilk: well you know what to do later...
[03:40] <ic56> cowmilk: putting the logs in /home/jeff/documents is an ok idea but, long term, you might regret it.  Later you might add other cron jobs that have nothing to do with documents.  In a few years, you'll have tought your computer to do all kinds of tricks. Keeping up with status will get to be a hassle if all the logs aren't in teh same place.
[03:40] <fyrestrtr> Da_Putzler: I don't know, but its a good idea to try.
[03:40] <Samuli^> Blinker, try to uncheck it?
[03:40] <freebuntu> Does anyone know the ftp addy for the ubuntu athlon64 d/l for fuzzybunny?
[03:40] <Da_Putzler> thx
[03:40] <mindmedic> !ubotu > mindmedic
[03:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about > mindmedic - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:40] <warlocky> but josh__, it's a lancafe with 125 pcs, is there anyway I can check on the lan what network ip we have?
[03:40] <Khamael> Blinker: synaptic fails with a segmentation soemthing ( in norwegian it says "minnesegmentsfeil"
[03:40] <fyrestrtr> !ubotu
[03:40] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[03:40] <Ekumba> fyrestrtr:i know what wine is.but on the wine page,there wasn't any wine version number for the game
[03:40] <freebuntu> YO! Anyone accepting Paypal to tweak things, and help out with code??? How Much???
[03:40] <kads> !ubotu
[03:40] <cowmilk> ic56: josh__, ok. so, let's put this log/output file in the place where real geeks put them
[03:40] <Ekumba> but how do i use wine at all
[03:41] <josh__> cowmilk: exactly :) lol
[03:41] <fyrestrtr> Ekumba: once you install it, its very simple wine blablah.exe
[03:41] <cowmilk> where would Linus Torvald put it?
[03:41] <krimzon> i still need help getting back to windows urgently - my partitions go [swap]  [linux]  [extended [windows]  [stuff]  [stuff]  [stuff]  ] 
[03:41] <josh__> warlocky: what are you trying to do? get your internal or external?
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> freebuntu: Not accepting Paypay because they are only secure up to $200 but what is the prob and how may we hlep you
[03:41] <krimzon> thats on a sata drive with 2 ide drives in also
[03:41] <fyrestrtr> Ekumba: example wine "/home/me/games/WoW.exe"
[03:41] <Ekumba> and does wine all the install thing for the program?
[03:41] <BeeRockxs> Hi, I'm having a problem trying to resize my partitions.
[03:41] <freebuntu> What, there's no telecommuting codejockeys here wanna make a few side bux?
[03:42] <warlocky> josh__, Im trying to get my internal, - Im trying to set a static ip, it's running slowly, so im trying to redo it.. but I need the network ip, I have the others (gateway, etc) but im missing the network ip
[03:42] <fuzzybunny> freebuntu, I'm on the FTP server right now under distros directory
[03:42] <fyrestrtr> Ekumba: no, you need to run the installer in wine first. So, wine "/home/me/downloads/mygame/setup.exe"
[03:42] <cowmilk> ic56: josh__would real geeks (Linus Torvald) put the output file in /home/linus/log/dl? or where?
[03:42] <freebuntu> oh, ok.
[03:42] <fyrestrtr> warlocky: do you only have one machine on the network?
[03:42] <josh__> warlocky: your ifconfig is missing that stuff?
[03:42] <warlocky> no fyrestrtr, 130~
[03:42] <Ekumba> ah okay.so its that simple.thank u very much.i'll give it a try
[03:42] <BeeRockxs> I have two partitions, i want to shrink the first one and expand the second one to use the freed space
[03:42] <fyrestrtr> cowmilk: what tha hell diference does that make?
[03:42] <warlocky> josh__, well. I have it all there, but I cant see what the "network" ip is. Not clearly getting that part.
[03:42] <BeeRockxs> shrinking the first one works, but expanding the second one doesn't.
[03:43] <tomveens> fyrestrtr, Who fills his brain with info?
[03:43] <cowmilk> fyrestrtr: it helps only in my thinking.
[03:43] <ic56> cowmilk: correct on absolute/relative paths.
[03:43] <BeeRockxs> this is the output from parted: 1      32.3kB  8390MB  8390MB  primary  ext2         boot
[03:43] <karla> hola
[03:43] <BeeRockxs>  2      18.0GB  48.0GB  30.0GB  primary  ext2
[03:43] <fyrestrtr> tomveens: the fine people in #ubuntu-ops :)
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> !es
[03:43] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:43] <tristano> !esd
[03:43] <ubotu> esd is the enlightened sound deamon. It's deprecated, use !alsa instead
[03:43] <karla> como tan quienes son
[03:43] <karla> espina
[03:43] <tomveens> okay
[03:43] <tristano> !alsa
[03:43] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[03:43] <tomveens> cool
[03:43] <cowmilk> ic56: ok. so where would real geeks (Linus) put this log/output file?
[03:43] <josh__> lol cowmilk it all person preference... i want to be able to get at all logs from all user accouts i have... so i dropped /output in the root filesystem... but i also trust everyone that uses my computer
[03:43] <karla> mano awuevos q todavia quiero a maldoni ps
[03:43] <tomveens> !jack
[03:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about jack - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:43] <espinita> hay
[03:43] <DBO> !es > karla
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> !es > karla
[03:43] <BeeRockxs> resize 2 8390MB 48GB gives this error message: Error: Unable to satisfy all constraints on the partition.
[03:43] <espinita> quien te lo quito???
[03:44] <karla> pero como ahora parese q le va a caer a stef
[03:44] <Jack_Sparrow> tomveens: Be nice...
[03:44] <karla> mano ps solo olli eso
[03:44] <fyrestrtr> warlocky: go to another machine that is on the same net, get its ip configuration (ipconfig in windows, ifconfig in linux) and its routing information (type route in linux) and then you'll have the information you need to setup a static ip address on that network segment.
[03:44] <espinita> ah????
[03:44] <freebuntu> OBVIOUSLY Folks, I don't have all day to SCROLL here, that's why I'd like a reasonable code jockey to ssh or whatever you do, and fix my probs! I'm trying to ultimately get oscommerce with php and sql and all those other acronyms I don't understand, savvy?
[03:44] <cowmilk> josh__: in my case, i'm the only human who uses my computer
[03:44] <ic56> cowmilk: I don't know about "real geeks" but "good sysadmins" would put it in ~/log
[03:44] <karla> simon
[03:44] <espinita> q paja ps
[03:44] <tomveens> Jack_Sparrow, You're the sound server?
[03:44] <karla> va y todavia la andrea lucia los esta ayudando ps como q no
[03:44] <karla> te juro e s cierto
[03:44] <Jack_Sparrow> tomveens: Not  .  :)
[03:44] <squeechy> cowmilk: did you check /var/log ?
[03:44] <espinita> si es cirto me cnto
[03:44] <karla> pero ps no se q hacer
[03:45] <Jack_Sparrow> tomveens: Not the bot..
[03:45] <cowmilk> squeechy: i don't know.
[03:45] <karla> xq yo lo quiero mucho a el
[03:45] <Seveas> karla, english only please
[03:45] <espinita> hay si el te quiere a vos que t busq
[03:45] <karla> pero vs sho no vayas a decir nada pls
[03:45] <josh__> cowmilk: do what ic56 said...for easier access make a symlink in the "/" directory to that folder
[03:45] <ic56> sqeechy: /var/log requires root privilege to write.  This is inadvisable for cowmilk's job
[03:45] <squeechy> cowmilk: that's where most system logs are
[03:45] <fyrestrtr> Seveas: Cyroxamp?
[03:45] <karla> si vdad
[03:45] <espinita> pero como saben q ella es la facil todo se van con
[03:45] <Seveas> fyrestrtr, one of the biggest losers ever
[03:45] <cowmilk> ic56: so sys admins would put it in ~/log and squeechy thinks /var/log is better
[03:45] <freebuntu> Anyone wanna help me, please email fadfocus at yahoo, thanks bunches gotta go to a biz function...
[03:45] <espinita> ella
[03:45] <ic56> squeechy: /var/log requires root privilege to write.  This is inadvisable for cowmilk's job
[03:45] <fyrestrtr> Seveas: lol okay.
[03:45] <AlexC_> Seveas: If he's not talking english - Asking him to only talk in English ... in English wont do any godo as he probably doesn't understand it!
[03:46] <cowmilk> ok, so i'll put it in ~log
[03:46] <cowmilk> in ~/log
[03:46] <josh__> ~/log
[03:46] <josh__> :)
[03:46] <BeeRockxs> can anyone help me with my partitioning resize problem?
[03:46] <squeechy> oh, I thought he was looking for an existing one.
[03:46] <ompaul> fyrestrtr, Seveas understated that a little
[03:46] <ic56> cowmilk: stop second guessing me and think back to what I've told you.  I asked you up front if this was a personal or a system script.
[03:46] <fyrestrtr> ompaul: guess some day you guys will have to explain that to me in -offtopic
[03:46] <Blinker> aw, sev. I was about to ask them natively
[03:46] <josh__> lol ic56
[03:46] <Blinker> hehe
[03:46] <cowmilk> ic56: sorry. i'm jsut so confused
[03:46] <ompaul> fyrestrtr, I will just point you back at logs
[03:46] <josh__> what are you confused about cowmilk ?
[03:47] <fyrestrtr> ompaul: ah yeah good point :D
[03:47] <josh__> cowmilk: this is YOUR computer... put it anyway YOU want
[03:47] <ic56> cowmilk: you said it was a personal script.  That's why we're using your personal crontab instead of /etc/crontab .  That's also why were're storing the log in ~/log instead of /var/log
[03:47] <josh__> u dont like a directory we tell you... make a different one
[03:47] <saik0> santa99, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20080 change $user and $group and make sure mount points exist
[03:47] <cowmilk> ic56: but you should know that *I* don't know the differernce between those 2 directories
[03:47] <josh__> we are just suggesting good places for stuff
[03:47] <BeeRockxs> can anyone help me with my partition resize problem?
[03:47] <cowmilk> ic56: or: I _didn't_ know (past tense)
[03:48] <squeechy> cowmilk: write the log to ~/.progname.log or something similar.
[03:48] <cowmilk> ic56: now i do know
[03:48] <ic56> cowmilk: if you don't know the difference between those directories, all the more reason not to touch something outside your home directory
[03:48] <santa99> saik0, what should i put in for $user and $group
[03:48] <fyrestrtr> man logs really needs a web interface ;(
[03:48] <cowmilk> ic56: so you're saying that ~/log is still in my home dir?
[03:48] <fyrestrtr> dr_willis: I prefer /file1 /file2 :)
[03:48] <josh__> cowmilk: thats why you put it in ~/log... messing with any "/" folders and thier subs could fubar your sys
[03:48] <cowmilk> ic56: anything that starts with a tilde is in my home dir?
[03:48] <ic56> cowmilk: ~ is an abbreviation form $HOME
[03:49] <josh__> ~/ = home directory
[03:49] <dr_willis_> fyrestrtr,  or /porn /goodlporn /badporn /ickyporn
[03:49] <cowmilk> ic56: oh.
[03:49] <cowmilk> ico2:  i see
[03:49] <ever> hello
[03:49] <josh__> ~/log = /home/jeff/log
[03:49] <fyrestrtr> dr_willis: /whatwasIthinkingporn
[03:49] <tristano> hello, howto restart esd?
[03:49] <fyrestrtr> forgot that one
[03:49] <ic56> cowmilk: $HOME is an environment variable which contains the absolute path to your home directory
[03:49] <Blinker> Samuli^: no dice.
[03:49] <ever> where are you from??
[03:49] <cowmilk> ic56 so i have this in my crontab 17 4 * * 7 /home/jeff/documents/sermon-download >>~log/sermon-download 2>&1
[03:49] <BeeRockxs> can anyone help me with my partition resize problem?
[03:49] <ic56> cowmilk: the absolute path to your home directory is /home/jeff
[03:49] <cowmilk> is that perfect, ic56?
[03:49] <Samuli^> Blinker, did you check out the url I posted?
[03:50] <saik0> santa99, hold on  i noticed a mistake
[03:50] <Blinker> nah, missed it before the reboot
[03:50] <ic56> cowmilk: yes, that's perfect
[03:50] <ic56> cowmilk: we need to discuss something else
[03:50] <cowmilk> ic56: ok. we're making progress
[03:50] <krimzon> can someone help me? i need to get on my windows part in 10 minutes
[03:50] <cowmilk> ic56: sure
[03:50] <Samuli^> Blinker, for one, you could sudo apt-get install alsa-oss and see if that helps.
[03:50] <ic56> cowmilk, josh__: the manpage for crontab doesn't specify which day is sunday.
[03:50] <AlexC_> krimzon: Well, if you told us the problem .............
[03:50] <dr_willis_> 17 4 * * 7 /home/jeff/documents/sermon-download >> /home/jeff/log/sermon-download 2>&1
[03:50] <cowmilk> ic56: i've changed the .crontab to 17 4 * * 7 /home/jeff/documents/sermon-download >>~log/sermon-download.log 2>&1
[03:51] <krimzon> grub comes up with errors about the windows partition
[03:51] <krimzon> i need to configure grub somehow
[03:51] <Blinker> Samuli^: alright, I'll let ya know how that turns out
[03:51] <cowmilk> ic56: so if the manpage doesn't, what now?
[03:51] <dr_willis_> i dont think you want to use the ~/shortcut in your crontab.  (you used it wrong anyway)
[03:51] <ic56> anyone know *for sure* what number corresponds to sunday in Linux's cron (for use in /etc/crontab).  Is it 0? is it 7?
[03:51] <karla> ps espina
[03:51] <r000t> does anyone here compile their own kernel????
[03:51] <bretzel> Feel good to be back to Ubuntu :-) I realized I missed Ubuntu
[03:51] <cowmilk> dr_willis:  i did?
[03:51] <josh__> no idea
[03:52] <Dodzey> cowmilk: you have ~log/sermon....   shouldn't it be ~/log/sermon....
[03:52] <AlexC_> krimzon: "errors", Ok - so all we have so far is Grub has errors and there is this "problem" .... how are we suppose to help?
[03:52] <josh__> ~/log cowmilk
[03:52] <krimzon> i used to have windows x64 in the primary partition and windows 32 in the first logical drive
[03:52] <tristano> hello, howto restart esd?
[03:52] <BeeRockxs> help anyone please?
[03:52] <dr_willis_> # For "day of the week" (field 5), both 0 and 7 are considered Sunday.
[03:52] <Da_Putzler> cowmilk: yeh, tis a kewl distro... just a few niggles to iron out and it'll be the best
[03:52] <cowmilk> Dodzey:  thanks. it's now 17 4 * * 7 /home/jeff/documents/sermon-download >>~/log/sermon-download.log 2>&1
[03:52] <Dodzey> BeeRockxs, whats up?
[03:52] <krimzon> then i put ubuntu in the space where x64 was
[03:52] <BeeRockxs> I have two partitions, i want to shrink the first one and expand the second one to use the freed space
[03:53] <BeeRockxs> shrinking the first one works, but expanding the second one doesn't.
[03:53] <ic56> cowmilk: the original unix manpages *did* specify it.  The trouble is there are different version of cron and they all map it slightly differently.  Unfortunately, the manpage that ships with our cron is incomplete -- may you'll fix it some day.
[03:53] <Dodzey> cowmilk: i wouldn't use ~/ anyway, like dr_willis said
[03:53] <BeeRockxs> this is the output from parted: 1      32.3kB  8390MB  8390MB
[03:53] <r000t> someone here know anything on compiling their own kernel
[03:53] <cowmilk> ic56: me? fix it?
[03:53] <BeeRockxs>  2      18.0GB  48.0GB  30.0GB
[03:53] <BeeRockxs> resize 2 8390MB 48GB gives this error message: Error: Unable to satisfy all constraints on the partition.
[03:53] <dr_willis_> 17 4 * * 7 /home/jeff/documents/sermon-download >> /home/jeff/log/sermon-download 2>&1
[03:53] <azureal> is it possible that the one you're trying to expand is currently mounted and therefore busy?
[03:53] <krimzon> when it installed grub ended up with an entry for dos/windows/whateveryouvegotthere
[03:53] <cowmilk> dr_willis_: thanks!
[03:53] <[GuS] > hi people, i have a question... i am installing php5 to use with apache... but i cant activate php5 on apache... and i have the libapache2-mods-php5 installed
[03:53] <Dodzey> BeeRockxs, you using gparted?
[03:53] <krimzon> but that didn't boot, insytead it said system error or no such partition or something
[03:53] <BeeRockxs> Dodzey: no, commandline parted
[03:54] <[GuS] > and inside mods-available i have nothing related to php5
[03:54] <krimzon> i can still see all of the partitions in ubuntu
[03:54] <Freddy2> hi
[03:54] <karla> quien es roman
[03:54] <cowmilk> so my crontab has this now: 17 4 * * 7 /home/jeff/documents/sermon-download >> /home/jeff/log/sermon-download 2>&1. ic56, kindly let me know the next step
[03:54] <saik0> santa99, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20082 $user and $group should be either the user and group names or uid and gid of the user/group you want read/write access to. like uid=santa,gid=santa
[03:54] <azureal> BeeRockxs ^^ what i said above
[03:54] <Dodzey> BeeRockxs, you may find gparted easier
[03:54] <dr_willis_> I will admit that the crontab examples i am looking at DO use ~ - but its best to always use absolute paths.
[03:54] <erUSUL> !es > karla
[03:54] <ic56> cowmilk: did you create /home/jeff/log ?
[03:54] <BeeRockxs> azureal: neither is mounted azureal, I booted with a live cd
[03:54] <kads> GuS > I had the same problem with PHP5
[03:54] <santa99> saik0, ok thx
[03:54] <[GuS] > :S
[03:54] <cowmilk> ic56: not yet
[03:54] <kads> make sure you get the aphe2 php5 appender from apt
[03:54] <BeeRockxs> Dodzey: GParted says there is no preceeding free space
[03:54] <cowmilk> um, how do i create  /home/jeff/log , ic56?
[03:54] <[GuS] > yes
[03:55] <[GuS] > there is
[03:55] <ic56> cowmilk: like I told you earlier, cd; mkdir log
[03:55] <jdsgflk> Has anyone here used superboot?  I am having trouble getting it to boot Ubuntu from my external firewire harddrive.
[03:55] <AlexC_> cowmilk: right click in Natuilis -> Create -> folder
[03:55] <kads> also restart the compy after install
[03:55] <AlexC_> cowmilk: or something like that :p
[03:55] <[GuS] > kads, ... i done all that......
[03:55] <krimzon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20083
[03:55] <cowmilk> ic56: i see . done
[03:55] <kads> didn't work ? ... hmm
[03:55] <ic56> cowmilk: did you run "crontab /home/jeff/.crontab" ?
[03:55] <erUSUL> !lamp > [GuS] 
[03:55] <[GuS] > no
[03:56] <krimzon> i renamed the entry to Windows XP
[03:56] <kads> do you have php5 common installed
[03:56] <karla> espina
[03:56] <karla> hablemos
[03:56] <krimzon> thats my problem basically
[03:56] <[GuS] > i don't want to use LAMP...
[03:56] <cowmilk> ic56: yes, just now
[03:56] <[GuS] > sorry
[03:56] <cowmilk> (done)
[03:57] <karla> d maldoni
[03:57] <kads> ya lamp can't be customized well
[03:57] <AlexC_> !es > karla
[03:57] <[GuS] > kads, save those question... all is installed
[03:57] <krimzon> oh, and i already mentioned my partition layout several times
[03:57] <kads> ok
[03:57] <karla> q paso cn migo
[03:57] <AlexC_> !es > karla
[03:57] <fyrestrtr> who was it that was going on about 'show me an example where a space makes a difference'
[03:57] <kads> can you send me your php.ini
[03:57] <kads> and apache.conf
[03:57] <azureal> hi, i was wondering about processes in general--it appears that many of them are running as copies of another one...
[03:57] <krimzon> AlexC_: is there anything else you need to know?
[03:57] <[GuS] > the things is that there is no mods activated for php5 in apache2
[03:57] <kads> oh
[03:57] <[GuS] > example there is no .load and .conf inside mods-available for php5
[03:57] <ic56> cowmilk: then you're done.  The file ~/log/sermon-download will grow each week.  Once in a while, you should go in there, review that all went ok, and delete the file so it doesn't grow forever and eat all your disk space
[03:57] <BeeRockxs> azureal, Dodzey: any idea?
[03:57] <karla> espina
[03:57] <[GuS] > so, is whty i am asking is there is a problem with libapache2-mods-php5
[03:57] <cowmilk> ic56: ha ha!
[03:57] <AlexC_> krimzon: I don't know about Grub, so I can't help you - All I was saying is, how are we suppose to help if you just say "I have a problem with Grub, it gives me errors"
[03:57] <fyrestrtr> cowmilk: or, you can use logrotate :)
[03:58] <cowmilk> ic56: now is there a way to do "pop up"
[03:58] <ic56> cowmilk: now, have you read the crontab manpage
[03:58] <ic56> cowmilk: now, have you read the crontab manpage?
[03:58] <krimzon> AlexC_: i'd already mentioned more of what the problem was earlier. i dont know how to configure grub for the partition in question
[03:58] <cowmilk> ic56: i think so.i've read (browsed) the wikipedia entry on crontab
[03:58] <krimzon> (first logical dos drive in extended partition)
[03:58] <azureal> BeeRockxs, if it was busy then i was going to suggest something, but since the error is of a different nature, idk
[03:58] <kads> run a2enmod
[03:58] <Dodzey> BeeRockxs, the only thing i can think of is them being in use, you've made the first smaller? yes? but you can't expand the second?
[03:58] <fyrestrtr> [GuS] : what did you install?
[03:58] <kads> as sudo and tell me what it says
[03:58] <BeeRockxs> Dodzey: exactly. and both are not mounted.
[03:59] <ic56> cowmilk: ah! Duh!  That's where the info the the day is located -- it's in the manpage for the crontab file, as opposed to the crontab command
[03:59] <BeeRockxs> Dodzey: could it be a problem that there are 4 primary partitions on that disk already?
[03:59] <ic56> cowmilk: wait, you don't know how to read the manuals on your own system?
[03:59] <[GuS] > fyrestrtr, all refered to apache2 and php5 to work.....
[03:59] <fyrestrtr> ic56: lol
[03:59] <doraemon81> hi all
[03:59] <cowmilk> ic56: i do (man crontab). but i like seeing things in color
[03:59] <dr_willis_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crontab
[03:59] <cowmilk> and using my mouse to scroll
[03:59] <Dodzey> BeeRockxs, are these partitions contained within the extended partition?
[03:59] <doraemon81> may i noe what does LTS means in ubuntu 6?
[03:59] <fyrestrtr> [GuS] : did you install libapache2-mod-php5 ?
[03:59] <dr_willis_> :) lots of color and examples
[03:59] <BeeRockxs> currently, the disk has the first partion, then a few gigs of empty space, the second partitition, then another partition i don't want to change (yet), and finally a swap partition
[04:00] <[GuS] > fyrestrtr, read more up.
[04:00] <cowmilk> dr_willis_: yes@
[04:00] <fyrestrtr> doraemon81: Long Term Support
[04:00] <saik0> doraemon81 Long Term Support
[04:00] <krimzon> i'm now less urgent on getting back into windows. i only need it to do work rather than play games before work
[04:00] <[GuS] > i dont wanna type twice.
[04:00] <cowmilk> ic56: so how do we get pop up?
[04:00] <gerhard> hi guys
[04:00] <fyrestrtr> [GuS] : no, there is no problem with it. I have it working fine.
[04:00] <doraemon81> cool!
[04:00] <BeeRockxs> Dodzey: there is no extended partition, just 4 primary partitions.
[04:00] <Dodzey> BeeRockxs, ahh....erm....i'm not sure...sorry...
[04:00] <krimzon> aha "filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7"
[04:00] <kads> did u try it
[04:00] <[GuS] > fyrestrtr, so, you have php5.conf and php5.load inside mods-available?
[04:00] <santa99> he guys is it possible to mount /dev/hda5 for example on to different mount points ?
[04:01] <Khamael> is there a way to make synaptic show only the newest kernels?
[04:01] <kads> Gus
[04:01] <Blinke1> Samuli^: I've reassessed the problem and have decided it's not a problem. only happens with flash objects, not acrross local apps (rythm, xmms, etc), so thats probably handy in re: to web ads
[04:01] <ic56> cowmilk: you don't have to use the command line to read manpages.  You can do it using a GUI app.
[04:01] <mindmedic> BeeRockxs: there are no more than 4 primary partitions allows on a drive
[04:01] <fyrestrtr> [GuS] : sure do
[04:01] <ic56> cowmilk: notice the lifesaver icon on your gnome panel?
[04:01] <[GuS] > damn...
[04:01] <[GuS] > i dont know then
[04:01] <gerhard> i have some windows partitions with music on it, hda1 and so on, and i want to chmod them from exclusive root access to normal user access for gerhard. how would I do that?
[04:01] <BeeRockxs> mindmedic: I know, i just want to resize the 2nd of the primary ones to take the space i freed by shrinking the first one.
[04:01] <fyrestrtr> gerhard: you need to remount them with a more liberal umask setting.
[04:01] <saik0> santa99, you could symbolically link it easily enough. or mount -o bind
[04:01] <dr_willis_> gerhard,  you use the correct fstab entry and umask option. You dont chmod them.
[04:02] <cowmilk> ic56: i'm on xubuntu, but i do remember seeing that ring when i was on ubuntu
[04:02] <mindmedic> BeeRockxs: which filesystem has the partition you wish to resize?
[04:02] <Samuli^> Blinkel, it's probably because flash uses oss or something like that. Did you try to install alsa-oss?
[04:02] <BeeRockxs> mindmedic: ext2
[04:02] <[GuS] > kads, i have no php5 enabled on that list
[04:02] <gerhard> well, I am a linux newb, how do I unmount them and then umask them?
[04:02] <[GuS] > but i allready know that
[04:02] <eternalswd> I'm trying to grab some files from a DVD+RW that I burned using Roxio on my Windows Box.  It has folders in it, but Nautilus only has unknown filetypes for all the folders.  How do I access the data?
[04:02] <santa99> saik0, that's an exellent idea
[04:02] <gerhard> unmounted, ok
[04:02] <mindmedic> that should work fine with parted or the graphical frontend gparted
[04:02] <chedabob> is there a volume levelling app for Amarok? i tried some script thingy, but it just failed miserably, and kept shovin my track volume to 67%
[04:02] <santa99> saik0, a symbolic link would do it
[04:02] <saik0> santa99, i meant mount --bind not mount -o bind sorry
[04:03] <[GuS] > is thre is no .load and no .conf for php5.... then willl never get activated on apache
[04:03] <cowmilk> ic56: will the logs also get the printout when the sermon-download script is succesful?
[04:03] <ic56> cowmilk: let's ask the channel what app you should use...
[04:03] <BeeRockxs> mindmedic: except that it doesn't :-/
[04:03] <kads> Gus enalbe it by running sudo a2enmod php5
[04:03] <santa99> saik0, no problem you helped me a lot
[04:03] <mindmedic> what is the error?
[04:03] <fyrestrtr> [GuS] : tried reinstalling?
[04:03] <kads> that will add the .load
[04:03] <crazy_penguin> eternalswd: try mount it udf and not iso9960
[04:03] <cowmilk> ic56:  i wish josh__ didn't leave us. i think he may nknow
[04:03] <kads> reinstallation won't work
[04:03] <ic56> on xubuntu, how does one view manpages using the GUI?
[04:03] <kads> fyrestrtr
[04:03] <BeeRockxs> In GParted, when I want to resize the second partition, it says there is no free space before it. Except that there is
[04:03] <[GuS] > yes fyrestrtr
[04:03] <[GuS] > same thing
[04:03] <gerhard> fyrestrtr, dr_willis_ : I couldnt unmount them, whats the sudo command?
[04:04] <eternalswd> crazy_penguin, how do I do that?
[04:04] <[GuS] > those files.. doesn't exist..
[04:04] <fyrestrtr> gerhard: umount
[04:04] <gerhard> thx
[04:04] <dr_willis_> gerhard,  sudo umount /media/whatever
[04:04] <mindmedic> mhh, does gparted also show this space as free?
[04:04] <crazy_penguin> first of all exit from those directories if you are in
[04:04] <azureal> BeeRockxs, so you're trying to resize it so that it expands "left" (for lack of a better word)
[04:04] <saik0> santa99, no problem. for some reason i find (d|f|u)mask more confusing than regular perms
[04:04] <BeeRockxs> azureal: yep
[04:04] <crazy_penguin> eternalswd: and after that unmount it
[04:04] <babo> I'm trying to connect netcat between two points ...  nc x.x.x.x 5060  and then the server nc -l -p 5060  ... that should open a conversation right ? ... but it ain't working ...
[04:04] <josh__> hows it going again people
[04:04] <jdsgflk> fyrestrtr: Did you send me a post?  I heard a sound, but saw no text in Gaim.
[04:04] <cowmilk> ic56: my priority is not how to read man pages in xubuntu, but the pop-up thing.  8-) =)
[04:04] <kads> yup they won't exist until a2enmod is exe
[04:04] <ic56> cowmilk: anything your script outputs will get saved in the log.  If your script outputs nothing and no error occur, then the log will be unchanged.  If you want confirmation that the script was successful, then make your script say so when it finishes
[04:04] <crazy_penguin> eternalswd: and mount it manualy but using udf instead iso at type
[04:05] <gerhard> fyrestrtr, dr_willis_ : theyre unmounted, dont appear on desktop anymore. how do I umask them now?
[04:05] <Seveas> babo, first do the nc -l...
[04:05] <saik0> !offtiopic > josh__
[04:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about offtiopic  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:05] <daunt> hi ubuntu'ers ..
[04:05] <[GuS] > kads, thre is no php5 mod to be activated
[04:05] <[GuS] > that is the problem
[04:05] <Khamael> is it possible to change from k7 kernel and modules to i686 kernel and modules with one command?
[04:05] <saik0> !offtopic > josh__
[04:05] <cowmilk> ic56: ok. I'll take the "silence" of a succesfulll script-run as success
[04:05] <dr_willis_> gerhard,  you use the correct fstab entry and umask option. You dont chmod them.   - edit the /etc/fstab file
[04:05] <daunt> i want to re-build my kernel .. from where do i get the current Ubuntu config for my installed machine?
[04:05] <crazy_penguin> eternalswd: umount /directory_where_the_disk_is_mounted
[04:05] <Seveas> [GuS] , apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5
[04:05] <dr_willis_> !fstab
[04:05] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[04:05] <ic56> cowmilk: your priority is ill advised and inconsiderate of the people in this channel.  You'd have us do all the work for you, rather than reading up on how to do it yourself.
[04:05] <gerhard> dr_willis_ : thanks, i try that
[04:05] <[GuS] > Seveas, if you read me, you wont say me that
[04:05] <josh__> hey saik0 i wasn't asking about u
[04:05] <kads> what!
[04:05] <kads> wow
[04:05] <[GuS] > so please..
[04:05] <morphycs> how to install kde on ubuntu 6?
[04:05] <cowmilk> ic56: oops
[04:05] <crazy_penguin> eternalswd: mount -t udf /dev/dvd /directory_whereyouwanttonmountthedisk
[04:05] <Seveas> [GuS] , I just jumped in ;)
[04:05] <krimzon> aha "filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7" - looked it up and 0x7 is ntfs which would make sense. shouldn't grub be able to boot ntfs for me?
[04:05] <cowmilk> ic56: sorry
[04:06] <kads> sorry
[04:06] <azureal> BeeRockxs, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/features.php
[04:06] <dr_willis_> gerhard,  also bookmark/erad -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[04:06] <cowmilk> kads: no. I'm sorry first! 8-)
[04:06] <daunt> is there a kernel-ubuntu-config file somewhere for me to use to get a 'stable' kernel build, which matches the current-installed Ubuntu running config?
[04:06] <saik0> josh__, thats irrelevant. this is still a support channel where offtopic dicussions are inapropriate
[04:06] <babo> Seveas: nope, the desktop is in a DMZ on a home router ... will the IP still find it, even though it's only one of the machines ... ?
[04:06] <azureal> BeeRockxs, perhaps you need 'the required software' e2fsprogs
[04:06] <NeoThermic> Is it possible to get the development version of Ubuntu via an ISO?
[04:06] <BeeRockxs> azureal: i have them installed.
[04:06] <babo> Seveas, not sure how the NAT will work in a home network like this ...
[04:06] <cowmilk> josh__: popup?
[04:06] <kads> cowmilk: lol
[04:06] <ic56> cowmilk: let's ask in xubuntu
[04:07] <Seveas> NeoThermic, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com
[04:07] <babo> oops...
[04:07] <NeoThermic> oooh
[04:07] <crazy_penguin> eternalswd: and use sudo becuase otherwise the system won't let you unmount and mount
[04:07] <kads> cowmilk: thx for making me feel less of an idiot
[04:07] <Da_Putzler> Is Ubuntu 6.10 going to have it's own WM instead of using Gnome/KDE/XFCE ???
[04:07] <cowmilk> why did seveas kick out josh?
[04:07] <cowmilk> Seveas: why did you request josh__ to leave?
[04:07] <Seveas> cowmilk, for unwadding underwear in public
[04:07] <BeeRockxs> Da_Putzler: no.
[04:07] <warlocky> hah
[04:07] <josh__> lol
[04:07] <gerhard> dr_willis_ : fstab for hda1 looks like this: /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults        0       0    what must I change?
[04:07] <mindmedic> Da_Putzler: if you are meaning WindowManager... no.
[04:07] <Seveas> josh__, now cut out the offtopicness
[04:07] <Karzy> I've downloaded the Ubuntu desktop image from two different sites and I get a write error trying to burn the desktop iso, the server iso burns fine though.. has anyone had this issue?
[04:08] <Da_Putzler> man, so many rumours, not enough fact... hmph!
[04:08] <mcphail> [GuS] : have you tried a "locate php5" to see if the files have ended up elsewhere?
[04:08] <daunt> anyone?  Ubuntu kernel config?
[04:08] <morphycs> how to install kde on ubuntu 6?
[04:08] <NeoThermic> and edgey uses which kernel?
[04:08] <rsk> morphycs: with apt-get
[04:08] <babo> Seveas: any ideas ?
[04:08] <jdsgflk> fyrestrtr: The Ubuntu LiveCD sees the firewire drive fine and has these modules loaded: sg,sd_mod,sbp2, ieee1394, scsi_mod.  Perhaps the superboot CD doesn
[04:08] <crazy_penguin> morphycs: apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[04:08] <[GuS] > yes mcphail , and no php5.load and not php5.conf around
[04:08] <gerhard> morphycs, cant you just use synaptics?
[04:08] <dr_willis_> gerhard,  you dont want 'defaults' you want to set the umask=022 option, and perhaps some others.. check that URL i posted - it has oodles of examples
[04:08] <crazy_penguin> morphycs: sorry apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:08] <mindmedic> Da_Putzler: I doubt there could be rumours about an ubuntu wm... you must have gotten something wrong...
[04:08] <josh__> well the "whats up people" was more in the context of what new issues have arrived since i have been gone... but ok... whatever :)
[04:08] <morphycs> rsk, whats the difference between kubuntu-desktop and kde
[04:08] <Seveas> babo, i'd suggest looking at the router...
[04:08] <jdsgflk> fyrestrtr: doesn't have all the necessary modules to see the drive?
[04:08] <mcphail> [GuS] : very odd. Are you using non-standard repos?
[04:08] <[GuS] > no mcphail
[04:09] <gerhard> dr_willis_ : ok, I found no such information on the page, sry
[04:09] <[GuS] > i am doing all in the correct way,
[04:09] <[GuS] > so more i am asking if is a bug...
[04:09] <josh__> cowmilk: what was that about popups?
[04:09] <jamecito> hi somebody speka spanish????
[04:09] <Seveas> [GuS] , pastebin the output of: dpkg -l '*php*' | cat
[04:09] <crazy_penguin> morphycs: kubuntu-desktop is kde with all the presettings
[04:09] <Seveas> !es
[04:09] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:09] <Da_Putzler> mindmedic, that's what I was told...
[04:09] <ic56> hmmm, xubuntu is dead.  How does one view manpages on xubuntu using the GUI?  What do I click on?  or what command do I invoke?
[04:09] <peti27> Ethereal installed successfully. Thanks for all your help. Have a great day. Bye.
[04:09] <morphycs> whats the difference between kubuntu-desktop and kde
[04:09] <morphycs> i c
[04:09] <[GuS] > if i install libapache2-mods-php5.. those files must exist... and they don't
[04:09] <star-affinity> hi! anyone knows if Ubuntu can run on a blue & white apple G3?
[04:09] <daunt> i wnat to recompile my own custom kernel, but i want to use the currently-running kernels' (Ubuntu supplied 2.6.15-26-386) configuration .. where can i find that config?  anyone know?
[04:09] <Karzy> anybody getting Write errors burning Ubuntu cds with CDRWin? I can burn the server iso but not the desktop one
[04:09] <dr_willis_> gerhard,  dident see the mention of   umask=0222,uid=flatcap,gid=winuser   :)
[04:09] <Seveas> ic56, yelp? Dunoo if xubuntu has that by default
[04:09] <saik0> daunt, /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[04:09] <babo> Seveas: yes, but it's on the DMZ ... anyway regardless, it seems that wengophone is listening everywhere ... :-(
[04:09] <karla> hola poncho
[04:09] <babo> udp        0      0 *:sip                   *:*                                28103/wengophone
[04:10] <cowmilk> josh__: i want to be alerted about the log, just in case i forget to check it. i want the info to be pushed to my face
[04:10] <azureal> BeeRockxs, is this a SATA hd?
[04:10] <dr_willis_> gerhard,  they do tend to show the mount commands not fstab entrys.. bu the options are the same.
[04:10] <dr_willis_> :P
[04:10] <Seveas> !es > karla
[04:10] <daunt> saik0, d'oh, thats so obvious!
[04:10] <BeeRockxs> azureal: nope, plain old IDE
[04:10] <jamecito> #ubuntu-es
[04:10] <eternalswd> crazy_penguin, same results
[04:10] <morphycs> is there way to clean a previous incomplete apt-get?
[04:10] <NeoThermic> Seveas: which kernel version does edgey use?
[04:10] <josh__> .... not sure how to do that cowmilk
[04:10] <fyrestrtr> anyone want to take a stab at estimating how long it would take to burn a 4 GB dvd over USB2.0 ?
[04:10] <saik0> daunt, glad i could help
[04:10] <warlocky> Does anyone know why I cant seem to access my server anymore? Im on lan with it. and I cant seem to access it through SSH?
[04:10] <cowmilk> kads: we are all learning, are'nt we? I know i have a lot to learn
[04:10] <Seveas> morphycs, apt-get -f install / dpkg --configure -a
[04:10] <BeeRockxs> azureal: hmm, it seems that parted does not support changing the start of an ext2 partition,
[04:10] <BeeRockxs> d'oh.
[04:10] <Freddy2> i have to rescue a system, and i'm going to use the ubuntu live for this.. exactly i'm using v5.04, and i'd like to know if this version contains any kind of graphical burn-cd program, in order to save all important data
[04:10] <dr_willis_> fyrestrtr,  i would guess 2hrs+
[04:10] <phargle> 20 mins
[04:10] <mcphail> [GuS] : Still using php4 here, but i haven't heard of this problem from anyone else. Are the files there if you manually download and unpack the .deb?
[04:10] <josh__> warlocky: what is the rror?
[04:10] <Seveas> NeoThermic, 2.6.17 iirc
[04:10] <dr_willis_> :)
[04:10] <cowmilk> josh__: ok no prob
[04:10] <NeoThermic> woo!
[04:11] <ic56> cowmilk: try typing "yelp".  Does it start a GUI manpage reader?
[04:11] <BeeRockxs> that sucks.
[04:11] <Seveas> !info linux-image-686 edgy
[04:11] <NeoThermic> this might have native support for my wireless card :)
[04:11] <ubotu> linux-image-686: Linux kernel image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.6.17.3 (edgy), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[04:11] <Hotwire> hi, does anyone know where i could find the ppd files for my printer i think the permissions are incorrectly set
[04:11] <cowmilk> josh__: ic56 Thank you very much for your help today
[04:11] <josh__> cowmilk im using my google fu to find out how
[04:11] <crazy_penguin> eternalswd: then it is possible that the data is corrupted or did you use differnt code page then that of the english language to in the filenames?
[04:11] <cowmilk> ico2: nope it doesn't
[04:11] <r000t> i need help compiling my own kernel
[04:11] <greddy> Anyone have experience setting up a socks5 server? I have gone through 3 different programs and 6 hours and no luck setting one up
[04:11] <r000t> someone
[04:11] <dr_willis_> !kernel
[04:11] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[04:11] <[GuS] > me to mcphail  i uses php4... perfect... is for a friend the problem.. not me.
[04:11] <cowmilk> ic56: nope it doesnt'
[04:11] <Seveas> !kernel > r000t
[04:11] <BeeRockxs> is there another partition resize tool, apart from parted?
[04:11] <cowmilk> josh__: what's fu?
[04:11] <babo> Seveas: it doesn't work on any port now though ...
[04:11] <Seveas> BeeRockxs, gparted, qtparted
[04:11] <Seveas> babo, that's not an ubuntu issue but an issue with your router
[04:12] <BeeRockxs> Seveas: which both use parted as a backend, and parted can't do what I want it to do.
[04:12] <morphycs> does kubuntu dvd contains software packages?
[04:12] <gerhard> dr_willis_ : is that correct? /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    uid=gerhard        0       0
[04:12] <crazy_penguin> morphycs: yes
[04:12] <mcphail> [GuS] : give me a second to try an install...
[04:12] <warlocky> josh__, nothing. I just cant access it?!
[04:12] <[GuS] > ok
[04:12] <dr_willis_> gerhard,  you need to set the umask= for the  modes of the files.. the uid is optional but makes it safer for that one user.
[04:12] <hackel> Is there another program (or a way of configuring postfix) like ssmtp which will simply send mail to an smtp server, but also respect /etc/aliases and queue messages in case inet connection is down (AND not keep a daemon running in the background)?
[04:13] <josh__> can you ping it warlocky ?
[04:13] <azureal> BeeRockxs, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/larry/resize/resizing.htm
[04:13] <azureal> i'm out of other ideas =/
[04:13] <dr_willis_> gerhard,   umask=0222,uid=gerhard
[04:13] <warlocky> josh__,a second. I jut rebooted it, im gonna try to access it, if I cant, Im gonna try to ping it, just a second :)
[04:13] <gerhard> dr_willis_ : so instead of uid=gerhard i type there umask=what?
[04:13] <eternalswd> crazy_penguin, I don't think either is the case, but I'll go check the DVD on my windows box.
[04:13] <gerhard> dr_willis_ : alright
[04:13] <crazy_penguin> eternalswd: ok
[04:14] <gerhard> dr_willis_ : what does this umask=0222 stand for?
[04:14] <BeeRockxs> azureal: the parted documentation says that I can't change the start of a partition when resizing an ext2 partiton :(
[04:14] <josh__> ok warlocky
[04:14] <ic56> cowmilk: try this: MANPATH=/usr/share/man xman &
[04:14] <Hotwire> can anyone tell me where i find the printer definition files for cups, i think mine have the wrong permissions set
[04:14] <warlocky> brb josh__, checking the server if its booting
[04:14] <ic56> cowmilk: it should open a small window on your screen
[04:14] <morphycs> how to replace the jre-1.5 instead of jre-1.4 in the envireonment vars
[04:15] <dr_willis_> gerhard,  that ntfs site details what it does.. its the Usermask for file creation... default of '666' - the mask of '222' = 444 (i think)    http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[04:15] <saik0> gerhard, it's inverse 555 permissions, meaning user,group,and everybody can read and execute the files
[04:15] <dr_willis_> 555 or 666? or 777? i forget
[04:15] <warlocky> josh__, cant access it. And I cant ping it eaither.
[04:15] <azureal> BeeRockxs,  somewhere i also read that you can't move your ext2 or ext3 partitions
[04:15] <josh__> seveas... do you know of a "pop up" alerting program in dapper?
[04:15] <rowanjl> Hello, whenever I insert a CD, all the contents are owned by root:root, how can I fix this, so that its root:users?
[04:15] <josh__> if you cant ping it, router is probably not forwarding
[04:16] <dr_willis_> I never coud figure out why they use a 'mask' and not the actual permission #'s
[04:16] <gerhard> dr_willis_, saik0: so its similar to that chmod stuff, I understand
[04:16] <cafuego> josh__: zenity --error --text "Your CPU has exploded"
[04:16] <azureal> BeeRockxs, of course, if all else fails, you could backup your ext2, remove the ext2 partition, and create a new (primary) one
[04:16] <dr_willis_> gerhard,  its identical/related :P
[04:16] <BeeRockxs> azureal: which would require back-up space for 20GB, which I don't have :(
[04:16] <saik0> gerhard, exactly. exept ntfs filesystems dont have ownership and permissions of their own, so you have to set a "mask" for it
[04:16] <warlocky> josh__, hmm. But I accessed it like 10minutes ago, rebooted - and nada now.
[04:16] <eternalswd> crazy_penguin, it works in Windows, is there a way to tell from windows what settings to use?
[04:16] <warlocky> josh__, rebooting again, I typed "script eth1" instead of "script grep" into /etc/network/interfaces.
[04:16] <saik0> dr_willis_, i've wondered that myself
[04:16] <Linuturk> I've burned a few DVD's with Ubuntu (for files, not movies) and I can't get them to read in any other system besides the original burner
[04:16] <azureal> ah, so the documentation probably answers your Q, BeeRockxs
[04:17] <gerhard> dr_willis_, saik0: thanks for your help. i try to install winrar now, be afraid of more questions :P
[04:17] <dr_willis_> !rar
[04:17] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[04:17] <josh__> warlocky: ok...::scratches head::
[04:17] <crazy_penguin> eternalswd: i don't know. sorry :(
[04:17] <dr_willis_> gerhard,  ive used winrar with wine. :P it worked ok.
[04:17] <azureal> BeeRockxs, yea, when you first said that you'd be expanding "left", i had a feeling it would be difficult...
[04:17] <josh__> what is zenity? a program language?
[04:17] <Linuturk> dr_willis_: i've got a windows program I've got working 90% in wine
[04:18] <ic56> josh__: man zenity
[04:18] <rowanjl> How do you set the permissions for cdrom drives?
[04:18] <dr_willis_> !info zenity
[04:18] <timalot> Russian ARchiver....
[04:18] <ubotu> zenity: Display graphical dialog boxes from shell scripts. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.14.3-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1121 kB, installed size 3208 kB
[04:18] <tim_> I've only just installed Linux and leanred about Wine. Am I able to boot Windows .EXE off disks with Wine?
[04:18] <gerhard> dr_willis_: at the moment it is installing some updates, so i cant install anything with synaptic. could you recommend me a good media player?
[04:18] <morphycs> how to install a local package with auto-checking for dependencies?
[04:18] <Linuturk> dr_willis_: could you give me some pointers on getting it working 100% ?
[04:18] <dr_willis_> gerhard,  depends on the media. I use xmms for mp3 and vlc for video.
, mplayer
, vlc player
[04:18] <dr_willis_> Linuturk,  i tend to use it with cedega.. ive not notied anything not working with it.
[04:18] <gerhard> i will google for those, thanks
[04:18] <crazy_penguin> morphycs: use dkpg
[04:19] <Linuturk> dr_willis_: it's called Timeless Time and Expense. a quick google will show you the program
[04:19] <dr_willis_> Linuturk,  i just tend to use it to uncpmpress rars' and perhaps convert stuff to zips.
, u can just use package manager from ubuntu to get those software
, check out more info at unofficial ubuntu FAQ
[04:19] <saik0> gerhard, for music: Rhythmbox resembles the Winamp media library (without the rest of winamp), Banshee resembles itunes, and BMP is like winamp (minus the library)
[04:19] <ic56> dr_willis_ wow.  3M to display a silly little window.  Talk about bloat.
[04:19] <dr_willis_> Linuturk,  ahh i though ya ment winrar. :P with wine and windows programs its a gamble.. check the wine forumes/docs/wikis/channel.
[04:19] <apv>  
[04:20] <frogzoo> rowanjl: as long as you have rw to /dev/cdrom
[04:20] <ic56> josh__: btw, zenity is installed by default on by breezy badger
[04:20] <dr_willis_> ic56,  the windows drivers for my wifes printer was a 156 mb download. :P
[04:20] <josh__> gerhard: of you can just get "xmms" which is basically winamp...
[04:20] <rowanjl> frogzoo: hey again, remember my messed up perms? :P
[04:20] <Seveas> dr_willis_, 'windows drivers' often include additional stuff
[04:20] <gerhard> doraemon81, saik0, dr_willis_: i think i will use xmms for music which I had before, on my notebook and vlc, because the windows versions are good
[04:20] <frogzoo> dr_willis_: it's a sad joke really
[04:20] <josh__> ic56: using dapper
[04:20] <ic56> dr_willis_ *sigh*
[04:20] <[GuS] > Seveas, http://rafb.net/paste/results/csr8Um96.html
[04:20] <warlocky> josh__, Ok. cant ping it, neaither can I access it, any ideas?
[04:20] <dr_willis_> Seveas,  yep... it included lots of junk she dident want and cant remove. :P
[04:20] <Seveas> dr_willis_, the average windows broadcom driver is 400 kb, but is downloadable in a 30 MB-ish package
[04:20] <ic56> josh__ so, zenity isn't present on your system?
[04:20] <Linuturk> dr_willis_: there are little quirks in the program. such as displays not showing 2 calendars and the time entry field showing a check box instead of the time . . . Is there anything you could recommend? I've been to #wine, with a total of 4 people, including me :(
[04:20] <gerhard> doraemon81, saik0, dr_willis_: i mean the vlc versions
[04:20] <santa99> saik0, do you want to see my fstab now ? writing works properly
[04:20] <josh__> warlocky: check to make sure the service is running
[04:20] <warlocky> josh__, it worked like 15min ago, but after a reboot it didnt...
[04:20] <rowanjl> frogzoo: so if I chmod that, to say 755?
[04:20] <hellokthulu> Hey -- the Sys admin-> Disk program does not have help.  Does this count as a bug?
[04:21] <Linuturk> dr_willis_: I've also googled it
[04:21] <warlocky> josh__, the ssh service?
[04:21] <saik0> santa99, sure
[04:21] <frogzoo> !permissions > rowanjl
[04:21] <rowanjl> hah
[04:21] <dr_willis_> Linuturk,  could always try the qemu/vmware with windows isntalled in it - route.
[04:21] <warlocky> uh, /etc/init.d/ssh start ?<- I'm pretty sure its running, but I just dont get it WHY it wont work. it has something to do with /etc/network/interfaces file, im 100%
[04:21] <josh__> ic56: im sure it is... never knew about it though
[04:21] <santa99> saik0, I'm pastebining it at the moment
[04:21] <josh__> warlocky: the sshd
[04:21] <santa99> saik0, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20087
[04:21] <Linuturk> dr_willis_: that would lag my machine to death :( ok, thanks anyway
[04:21] <josh__> ur using openssh right?
[04:21] <ic56> johs__: just type "which zenity" and give me a straight answer already
[04:21] <ic56> josh__: just type "which zenity" and give me a straight answer already
[04:21] <josh__> lol ic56
[04:22] <Strat0z> can anyone access http://www.idsoftware.com ??? It seems to be down now... and has been for awhile
[04:22] <josh__> yes i got it
[04:22] <ic56> josh__: ok. so it's installed by default.  So we can advise people in this channel to use it without having to go through installing it.  Thanks.
[04:22] <Blinker> Strat0z: nada
[04:22] <HeXiOn> hello
[04:22] <visham> hi folks
[04:23] <josh__> :) anytime
[04:23] <hellokthulu> Anyone know if Ubuntu can be set up to NOT have you log in?  I'd like to have my machine available to the family without making them log in.  Minor thing, but...
[04:23] <visham> what are kernal modules?
[04:23] <warlocky> josh__, still, cant... :/
[04:23] <Strat0z> blinker: crap... their ftp site is also down :(
[04:23] <visham> and what does modprobe do?
[04:23] <warlocky> it might be something in my interfaces file? anything I need to have in it?
[04:23] <HeXiOn> anyone knows what's the command (in console) to change volume up and down??? (Need for LIRC)
[04:23] <josh__> warlocky: u using openssh?
[04:23] <Strat0z> anyone know of any mirrors for ftp.idsoftware.com ?
[04:23] <warlocky> yes josh__
[04:23] <Seveas> visham, kernel modules are drivers, modprobe loads them
[04:23] <warlocky> do I need network/broadcast/gateway etc in interfaces? I might be missing some of them
[04:23] <josh__> and when you do a ps -ef its in there?
[04:23] <Blinker> Strat0z: what were you tryign to get from them?
[04:23] <saik0> santa99, that works, as ling as you're aware that all users have rwx access to the captive ntfs drive
[04:23] <inc|freaky> is there any good system stats software arround for web like HotSanic?
[04:23] <visham> what does ppdev do?
[04:24] <santa99> saik0, I'm the only user on my machine
[04:24] <Strat0z> blinker: i'm trying to get the linux installer and bins
[04:24] <Strat0z> blinker: for quake4
[04:24] <josh__> do a ps -ef|grep sshd
[04:24] <inc|freaky> im running ubuntu on my server since today :D
[04:24] <Da_Putzler> Anyone here using FVWM ???
[04:24] <Blinker> ah, yeah so thats not likely to be on gamespy or download.com
[04:24] <saik0> santa99, now you tell me..... ;P
[04:24] <visham> Seveas: what does ppdev module do?
[04:24] <Strat0z> blinker: no... probably not :(
[04:24] <josh__> no im not an indian
[04:24] <santa99> saik0, I'm aware of it. I will change it when i add another user.
[04:24] <Blinker> Strat0z: no hurt in lookin
[04:24] <hellokthulu> FVWM -- now there's an acronym from the PAST!
[04:24] <Seveas> visham, that's for printers
[04:24] <santa99> saik0, sorry that I told you this so late
[04:25] <dr_willis_> OLVWM
[04:25] <hellokthulu> TWM!
[04:25] <HeXiOn> please, anyone knows how to change volume from console??? (gnome)
[04:25] <dr_willis_> 'wm' and ;wmx2'
[04:25] <Seveas> HeXiOn, alsamixer
[04:25] <dr_willis_> HeXiOn,  theres several console based alsa mixer tools.
[04:26] <visham> Seveas: how do i know which modules are loaded and/or available
[04:26] <saik0> visham, lsmod lists loaded modules
[04:26] <HeXiOn> Seveas, I need a simple command like "volume_up" or something. It's for LIRC
[04:26] <Seveas> visham, loaded: lsmod, available: find /lib/modules/$(uname -r) -type f
[04:26] <snoops> hmm does anyone remember the relational db system this guy did for his thesis.. like saying we'd be getting rid of conventional hierarchical based systems to move into a new system. There was a gui for the engine, the main project a file browser with relational db stuff instead of your / and such.. was written for KDE I believe. Anyone know the name?
[04:26] <Seveas> Hexidigital, man amixer
[04:26] <Seveas> HeXiOn*
[04:26] <Seveas> unfotunately amixer is NOT simple
[04:27] <josh__> warlocky: ur logging in with a user that has permission to access right?
[04:27] <Seveas> but it can do what you want ;)
[04:27] <fyrestrtr> cool, 13 minutes :)
[04:27] <kieran> hello?
[04:27] <josh__> snoops, postgre?
[04:27] <kieran> English?
[04:27] <HeXiOn> Seveas, thank you, I'm going to probe :)
[04:27] <yoni> !source
[04:27] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[04:27] <yoni> !easysource
[04:27] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:28] <LethalSword> !tell LethalSword about wine
[04:28] <santa99> where are the icons for the partitions lying ?
[04:28] <snoops> josh__ no no.. it used a db as the backend.. I'm trying to remember the project kde file browser one this guy did, the name of it that is
[04:28] <gerhard> doraemon81, saik0, dr_willis_: I downloaded and unpacked xmms binaries, i switched to the folder with the console, what command must I give now? i know i can use synaptic but that is busy right now
[04:28] <josh__> ....no idea... sorry
[04:29] <visham> Seveas: how do i check the data in a usb flash drive
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> gerhard,  you are doing it wrong. - wait for synaptic to get free.
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> gerhard,  you dont want to be just downloading/installing debs. :P
[04:29] <rowanjl> frogzoo: I have no idea what I should do, I never changed any of the devices, so it should work as is right?
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> gerhard,  there may be other dependencies the package needs
[04:29] <Seveas> santa99, /usr/share/{icons,pixmaps}
[04:29] <rowanjl> But then why can't I execute anything on a CD?
[04:30] <Seveas> visham, 'check the data'?
[04:30] <gerhard> Dr_Willis: ok youre right, synaptic will know them and install them together with xmms
[04:30] <Strat0z> i found a ftp.idsoftware.com mirror: http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/misc/ftp.idsoftware.com/
[04:30] <visham> Seveas: i meant read a usb memory drive/stick
[04:30] <warlocky> josh__, Ok. i can access the server now
[04:30] <krimzon> now my system doesnt boot at all - grub says error 17
[04:30] <Seveas> visham, plug it in and it will mount
[04:30] <krimzon> i need more help!
[04:30] <santa99> seveas, thx
[04:30] <visham> Seveas: the directory??
[04:30] <warlocky> josh__, can you help me out with my interfaces file? to see if I have anything bad in it? I'm trying to exchange it with something I found on google.
[04:30] <Seveas> visham, somewhere under /media
[04:31] <visham> Seveas: no new dir was formed when i used a usb memory stick?
[04:31] <visham> Seveas:do i need to load any extra modules
[04:31] <rowanjl> frogzoo: well, damn me! Here I was trying to run a script from a CD thats totaly borked...
[04:31] <josh__> what are you trying to replace warlocky ?
[04:31] <Blinker> !alsa
[04:31] <lostsync> can someone tell me how to get to screensaver-speciffic settings in Dapper's screensaver dialog?  for instance, changing where Phosphor gets it's text to an RSS feed of my choosing?
[04:31] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[04:31] <Seveas> visham, the new dir is under /media and has the same name as the filesystem on the stick
[04:32] <warlocky> Seveas, you got any clues of how /etc/network/interfaces works?
[04:32] <krimzon> *sighs*
[04:32] <Strat0z> warlocky: u can do "man interfaces" ... the man page is pretty good
[04:33] <warlocky> Strat0z, I need help with it anyways. As it's bugging for some reason.
[04:33] <Jack_Sparrow> krimzon: I just got back, would you mind redsfining what you need help with?
[04:33] <Jack_Sparrow> redefine
[04:33] <warlocky> also, can I uninstall postfix? I saw it loading on boot, what can it be ?
[04:33] <saik0> warlocky pastebin what you have so we can help you better
[04:33] <warlocky> ok
[04:33] <warlocky> !pastebin
[04:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:34] <Gun_Smoke> Is NetGear WG111v2 supported by Ubuntu?
[04:34] <krimzon> i need to reconfigure grub so that it can boot from my windows partition, which is the first logical drive in the extended partition
[04:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardware > Gun_Smoke
[04:34] <warlocky> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20089 <- is my interfaces saik0
[04:34] <babo> How do I kill and restart the sound daemons ? ... killall esd maybe ?
[04:35] <krimzon> well... currently i have to reconfigure grub to boot at all
[04:35] <rdz> hi all. why does ubuntu always mount /dev/sda when i plug an usb-hardrive in? i mean it is supposed to only mount the partitions (e.g. /dev/sda1)
[04:35] <babo> that doesn't return anything ...
[04:35] <Gun_Smoke> Didn't work Jack_Sparrow
[04:35] <Jack_Sparrow> krimzon: The first drive in the extended... Windows dosent like that, it wants to be first in primary
[04:35] <warlocky> saik0, any ideas?
[04:35] <krimzon> it's always booted from that drive
[04:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardware
[04:35] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[04:35] <Gun_Smoke> Thanks
[04:36] <Jack_Sparrow> krimzon: We can fix the mbr back to where it was and start from there.
[04:36] <Jack_Sparrow> krimzon: It may not be in the extended partition.
[04:36] <krimzon> i havent touched the mbr since i installed linux, i wouldnt want to mess with it and lose linux
[04:36] <Jack_Sparrow> krimzon: Is it the first partition listed in gparted?
[04:37] <krimzon> i'll look... the cd has just booted
[04:37] <saik0> warlocky, broadcast 213.115.236.225 <- last octet should be 255, no?
[04:37] <Jack_Sparrow> krimzon: have you pastebined your grub/menu.lst?
[04:37] <warlocky> yeah, it says .225 on the end in ifconfig
[04:38] <warlocky> but I think this might be the problem, I googled for interfaces, and some have this:
[04:38] <eternalswd> Gun_Smoke, the built in drivers don't work, but on x86 systems you can use ndiswrapper and the windows drivers
[04:38] <fuzzybunny> I have something wrong w/my computer
[04:38] <Jack_Sparrow> krimzon: Grub now boots linux ok correct?
[04:38] <krimzon> i have done before... i'll pastebin the new version that i came up with by reading the manual
[04:38] <krimzon> nope
[04:38] <fuzzybunny> I actually paid for my OS
[04:38] <krimzon> i'm on the livecd
[04:38] <fuzzybunny> and it works w/o crashing or hangs
[04:38] <jbroome> fuzzybunny: that's no good. :)
[04:38] <warlocky> 1sec saik0, err
[04:38] <frogzoo> krimzon: keep a live cd handy & grub's always recoverable
[04:38] <fuzzybunny> jbroome, :) just returning the favor from #windows
[04:39] <fuzzybunny> we get that a lot of the time
[04:39] <warlocky> saik0, just join #we.help for one second, so I can copypaste it and explain
[04:39] <fuzzybunny> about every half hour actually
[04:39] <Jack_Sparrow> fuzzybunny:   so You cant get into either now
[04:39] <eternalswd> Gun_Smoke, check out http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=212365
[04:39] <Jack_Sparrow> sorry wrong person
[04:40] <Jack_Sparrow> krimzon: You cant get into either os at the moment.. Did it ever work or did something change
[04:40] <fuzzybunny> its ok
[04:40] <Gun_Smoke> eternalswd:  Thanks
[04:40] <Bethorr> anyones know of something like valgrind but for windows?
[04:40] <warlocky> !pastebin
[04:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:40] <LethalSword> i like pie
[04:40] <LethalSword> pie is amazing
[04:41] <LethalSword> if u like pie you're cool
[04:41] <Seveas> !offtopic > LethalSword
[04:41] <eternalswd> Bummer, I have to reboot to Windblows to access my Roxio burned DVDs if they have folders.  GRRR!
[04:41] <krimzon> i broke menu.lst trying to get it to boot windows
[04:41] <gerhard> i made a pie yesterday, Lethalsword
[04:41] <LethalSword> lolololol
[04:41] <krimzon> i was only changing the windows entry though
[04:41] <Seveas> !offtopic > gerhard
[04:41] <LethalSword> ;)
[04:41] <gerhard> i know, Seveas
[04:41] <LethalSword> lololol
[04:42] <bretzel> arrg! I forgot: In Ubuntu you have to chase development packages manually for ...developing... ( "build-essential" meta pkg MUST auto-include "libtool, autoconf/automake, c++ and the stdc++ pkgs"...) I've installed Kdevelop and build-essential : bunch of tools was not installed....
[04:42] <krimzon> Jack_Sparrow: i can't figure out how to get to the menu.lst to pastebin it
[04:42] <Jack_Sparrow> krimzon: post your grub and we will get you fixed up
[04:42] <LethalSword> what?
[04:42] <linuxd00d> is there any programs that are better than gkrellm?
[04:43] <Jack_Sparrow> krimzon: SInce this may take awhile to walk you through it I will need to finish breakfast..
[04:43] <IAskew> linuxd00d, have u tried out superkaramba?
[04:43] <LethalSword> anybody know the name of the easy configurating irc daemon?
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> linuxd00d,  theres a great many 'dock applets' out thee. it depends on what you need/want
[04:43] <LethalSword> for linux
[04:43] <eroticon> hello folks
[04:43] <eroticon> http://rafb.net/paste/results/ul0fee40.html
[04:43] <IAskew> linuxd00d, that has system monitors and such
[04:43] <eroticon> what could be caising that?
[04:43] <eroticon> rather, causing
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> LethalSword,  we sort of assumed it was for Linux. :P
[04:44] <Jack_Sparrow> krimzon: gksudo nautilus or sudo nautilus --no-desktop/media would be a start
[04:44] <LethalSword> lol
[04:44] <mindmedic> linuxboy: karamba for kde, gdesklets for gnome...
[04:44] <LethalSword> but anybody know the name?
[04:44] <mindmedic> linuxboy: if we are talking about better = look better
[04:44] <linuxd00d> sorry guys, bloody killed wrong window XD
[04:45] <krimzon> i can only see the cd right now...
[04:45] <linuxd00d> yeah what programs are better than gkrellm
[04:45] <Nimwei> Hey - is there a way to kill the lock on file /var/lib/dpkg/lock?  Apt-get locked up trying to connect to the FTP source.
[04:45] <Jack_Sparrow> krimzon: use the up arrow
[04:45] <LethalSword> Nobody knows the name of it?
[04:46] <Nimwei> I did a 'ps' and saw the apt-get process, but when I kill the PID it doesn't die.
[04:46] <Seveas> Nimwei, if you're 100% sure that nothing's using it, just remove the file
[04:46] <yey> hi, I'd like to try ubuntu
[04:46] <krimzon> ive booted from the livecd, the whole filesystem is the cd
[04:46] <Seveas> yey, that's a good idea
[04:46] <linuxd00d> yey, download it then
[04:46] <eroticon> http://rafb.net/paste/results/ul0fee40.html
[04:46] <babo> Guys, I'm having a sound problem with linux. I'm using a sip service and it seems to work fine ... my calls are logged and seem to go through. The only thing is that I can hear desktop sound bytes fine, but can't hear my sip program at all. Does anyone have any suggestions ... ?
[04:46] <yey> but I have one question, is the installer prepared for configuring dual boot (win&lin) ?
[04:46] <Seveas> yey, yes it is
[04:47] <gfxstyler> yo
[04:47] <yey> Seveas: which fs does it use?
[04:47] <thechitowncubs> How can I diagnose a samba server refusing a connection, where can I look for the reason or error code?
[04:47] <Nimwei> Seveas - Is there a better way to kill a PID rather than "kill PID?" It won't seem to die when I attempt it.
[04:47] <gfxstyler> can i install a 32bit ubuntu on a 64bit amd athlon?
[04:47] <gh0zt> sup
[04:47] <rulus> yey, ext3
[04:47] <Pntkl> Hi
[04:47] <thechitowncubs> Recent updates killed my samba network
[04:47] <bretzel> yey: It is for a long time already :-)
[04:47] <Seveas> yey, ext3, xfs, reiser, jfs...
[04:47] <Pntkl> confidential
[04:47] <eroticon> gfxstyler familiar with ATI drivers?
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> thechitowncubs,   - samba logs are in /var/log/samba (i think)
[04:47] <linuxd00d> are there programs better than gkrellm?
[04:47] <eroticon> man, i need someone to help me real quick
[04:47] <eroticon> http://rafb.net/paste/results/ul0fee40.html
[04:47] <gfxstyler> eroticon: yeah, how do you know?
[04:47] <Seveas> !repeat > eroticon
[04:47] <yey> Seveas: can it be easily set up to reiserfs during installation?
[04:47] <eroticon> what in the world could be causing me that error?
[04:47] <Nimwei> linuxd00d - I'm sure  that your question is all in a matter of opinion :)
[04:47] <saik0> heh, this is slightly offtopic, but for the last minute or so i didnt realize yey was a user, and thought everybody was just happy
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> thechitowncubs,  you did set the users samba passwords with 'smbpasswd -a USERNAME' ?
[04:47] <Seveas> yey, yes, but i'd advise ext3
[04:47] <eroticon> gfxstyler peep this real quick http://rafb.net/paste/results/ul0fee40.html
[04:47] <yey> Seveas: why?
[04:48] <gfxstyler> eroticon: okay
[04:48] <eroticon> i just installed the xorg-fglrx drivers and stuff like that
[04:48] <linuxd00d> nimwei, i had a guy reply to me but i closed the wrong tab
[04:48] <Seveas> reiserfs is not the most stable...
[04:48] <bretzel> ext3 for the /boot partition -- at least
[04:48] <Seveas> the nickname 'eraserfs' is not undeserved
[04:48] <thechitowncubs> Dr_Willis, yes, but could this have gotten borked when samba got updated with the recent updates?
[04:48] <bretzel> Seveas: :-)
[04:48] <LethalSword> Is there any way to change the clock from a military style clock to a 12 hour clock?
[04:48] <tomveens> I have written http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=232884, if you have helped me with this issue, sign some credit in with a post!
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> thechitowncubs,  not sure. ive not seen any issues.
[04:48] <gfxstyler> eroticon: you dont load the fglrx driver but the radeon driver
[04:48] <gfxstyler> and you dont load the drm module
[04:48] <thechitowncubs> Dr_Willis, where can I look to see if the passwords are still intact
[04:49] <jbroome> LethalSword: right click on clock, and try preferences
[04:49] <eroticon> gfxstyler let me try
[04:49] <mindmedic> yey: if you are trying ubuntu for the first time I don't think it matters which fs you use.
[04:49] <linuxd00d> are there programs better than gkrellm?
[04:49] <gfxstyler> eroticon: you have to replace "Driver" "radeon" with "Driver" "fglrx" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> thechitowncubs,  Hmm.. the logs should show some info.. you can also up the logging level of the samba servers.
[04:49] <tivoklr> anybody have some routing experience?
[04:49] <yey> mindmedic: I'am going to switch from suse
[04:49] <gfxstyler> in "Section" "Device"
[04:49] <eroticon> that didnt work
[04:49] <mindmedic> linuxd00d: if you mean "better looking" try superkaramba for kde or gkrellm for gnome
[04:49] <eroticon> i did
[04:49] <eroticon> sec
[04:50] <gfxstyler> you have to restart X to see the effect
[04:50] <yey> mindmedic: in suse updates system is completely unstable
[04:50] <gfxstyler> and you have to install the linux-restricted-modules for your current kernel
[04:50] <yey> Is software management good in ubuntu?
[04:50] <AstralJava> Anyone installed bugzilla here? If so, could you tell me how much disk space it ate at install time?
[04:50] <Seveas> yey, good doesn't begin to describe it
[04:50] <Seveas> it's excellent
[04:50] <bretzel> yey: I just switched from SuSE, it is a matter of taste and usability prefs... Personally I prefer Ubuntu
[04:50] <eroticon> hrm
[04:50] <eroticon> sec
[04:50] <mindmedic> linuxd00d: if you mean "better performance", well gkrellms multiple system monitors in one process are pretty much as good as you can get
[04:51] <linuxd00d> mindmedic, im looking for a program of that sort, im using gnome, but i have seen sensors etc. that look intergrated into the desktop, like in overclokix
[04:51] <yey> bretzel: yast was veeery slow, is soft. manag. faster in ubuntu?
[04:51] <welp> linuxd00d: gdesklets
[04:51] <Seveas> yey, yes
[04:51] <welp> yey: yes, it can be
[04:51] <linuxd00d> welp: cheers
[04:51] <eroticon> dide
[04:51] <eroticon> failed to load module "fglrx" module does not exist
[04:51] <eroticon> no drivers available
[04:51] <shawnr_> lol
[04:52] <Seveas> eroticon, apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[04:52] <eroticon> Driver "fglrx"
[04:52] <linuxd00d> right guys be back on in a while going for a smoke
[04:52] <bretzel> yey: There is the "SMART" pkg manager alternative in SuSE, a bit like synaptic gui... feel more "free" than with Yast
[04:52] <eroticon> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-386 is installed
[04:52] <mindmedic> yey: well, new versions of suse are very stable distributions. ubuntu is stable too. however if you have stability in mind go with Seveas advice and choose ext3 as filesystem.
[04:52] <eroticon> it has the latest version
[04:52] <gfxstyler> eroticon: the latest is 2.6.15-26-386, no?
[04:53] <gfxstyler> dunno really, i use 686-smp
[04:53] <eroticon> Linux ubuntu 2.6.15-23-386 #1 PREEMPT Tue May 23 13:49:40 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:53] <eroticon> for me it is.
[04:53] <warlocky> !pastebin
[04:53] <Ng> use 2.6.15-26 is the latest
[04:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:53] <Ng> -use+yes
[04:53] <eroticon> where do i get  2.6.15-26?
[04:53] <Seveas> eroticon, you don't have the security repos enabled
[04:53] <Seveas> !repos > eroticon
[04:53] <eroticon> I do
[04:53] <yey> Seveas, welp, bretzel, mindmedic: hmmm, I've chosen network installation for suse, can I do the same with ubuntu?
[04:54] <bretzel> I tried "Novell SuSE Linux Enterprise Desktop" gnome+compiz-xgl was awesome: Stable and fast.
[04:54] <gfxstyler> eroticon: basically, you just have to install the restricted-modules for your kernel, then install the xorg-driver-fglrx, then change the "radeon" to "fglrx" and then you need to restart X, and then you have working ati drivers with 3d acceleration
[04:54] <shawnr_> Yay!... More Compiz Update!!! ;) lol
[04:54] <Seveas> yey, what does suse mean with 'network installation'?
[04:54] <NthDegree> eroticon, update repos and security repos are slightly different
[04:54] <eroticon> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted
[04:54] <eroticon> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted
[04:54] <eroticon> thats in my source.list
[04:54] <NthDegree> Seveas, install entirely off the internet or an install via NFS
[04:54] <yey> Seveas: no local installation media, everything downloaded during install.
[04:54] <Seveas> eroticon, then you haven't updated.
[04:54] <jbroome> Seveas: i think it's a FTP or nfs install
[04:54] <eroticon> Seveas: what do i do?
[04:54] <yey> Seveas: local starter only
[04:55] <Seveas> yey, you can sort of do that but you need to start from an ubuntu cd anyway
[04:55] <eroticon> Seveas: what do i do, install what?
[04:55] <Seveas> eroticon, read ubotus message, fix our sources.list, do a dist-upgrade and come back 
[04:55] <bthornton> WiFi question: Is it possible to have multiple APs at different locations with the same SSIDs?  I'm trying to effectively expand the coverage area.
[04:55] <eroticon> can i apt-get install the latest kernel or something?
[04:55] <eroticon> ok word
[04:55] <eroticon> sec
[04:55] <mindmedic> yey: the base system is on the cd you can download. additional packages can be retrieved via network
[04:55] <bretzel> yey: I am not used with net install. btw, Ubuntu installs with the CD and you get the Universe wich has plenty of DEB pkgs never seen with other non-deb distros...
[04:55] <gfxstyler> eroticon: you can also use the radeon driver for 3d, what ati card do you have?
[04:56] <eroticon> Xpress 200
[04:56] <gfxstyler> hm....i dont know if that will work with it, because its just for r300
[04:56] <eroticon> i just did apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:56] <eroticon> its going
[04:56] <shawnr_> eroticon, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[04:56] <ubuntu___> hi all!
[04:56] <eroticon> its about to install linux-image-2.6.15-26-386 linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-386
[04:56] <ubuntu___> i just installed ubuntu, but my root partition is full...
[04:57] <gfxstyler> hi
[04:57] <ubuntu___> is there a way to clean it up a bit?
[04:57] <gfxstyler> ubuntu___: sudo apt-get clean
[04:57] <eroticon> brb
[04:57] <ubuntu___> huh?
[04:57] <mindmedic> yey: but the applications on the cd are the most needed ones, so unless you have a very abstract taste of packages installed you are going to need the packages on the cd anyway.
[04:57] <davegoodson> Hi, I'm having problems connecting to my wireless router with network-manager-gnome, it trys to connect then it just connects to someone else's router....... how do i fix it?
[04:57] <Seveas> ubuntu___, then you should've given it more space.... if it's already full short after installation you're definitely going to run into problems later
[04:57] <gfxstyler> ubuntu___: that cleans the downloaded stuff that apt-get downloaded
[04:57] <saik0> how can i tell what module an ethX device is using?
[04:57] <ubuntu___> oh oke thanx
[04:58] <bytecode> bthornton: you can have hte same ssid on the APs, but different channels
[04:58] <ubuntu___> hmm still the same
[04:58] <bthornton> bytecode: will the signal be automagically "passed off" between them as I move my laptop?
[04:59] <ubuntu___> I've got a 680MB root partittion and its totally filled
[04:59] <Seveas> ubuntu___, dude, that's waaayyyyyy too small
[04:59] <gfxstyler> ubuntu___: omg
[04:59] <bytecode> bthornton: I think you end up "roaming"
[04:59] <bthornton> ic
[04:59] <bthornton> bytecode: thanks
[04:59] <wheels3572> Under Xubuntu how can you rename a group name?
[04:59] <yey> Seveas: Why I canno join #ubuntu?
[04:59] <gfxstyler> ubuntu___: give it at least 2gb (the installation told you this)
[04:59] <bytecode> bthornton:np
[04:59] <Seveas> yey, you're in #ubuntu....
[04:59] <ubuntu___> gfxstyler: I let the installation manager decide
[04:59] <davegoodson> Hi, I'm having problems connecting to my wireless router with network-manager-gnome, it trys to connect then it just connects to someone else's router....... how do i fix it?
[04:59] <ubuntu___> i didn't partition anything
[04:59] <yey> Seveas: irssi says #ubuntu-unregged
[05:00] <gfxstyler> ubuntu___: do you have windows xp installed, too?
[05:00] <ubuntu___> no
[05:00] <gfxstyler> ubuntu___: maybe your free space was too small
[05:00] <ubuntu___> I gave ubuntu all my hd (6Gb)
[05:00] <gfxstyler> ubuntu___: how big is your hdd?
[05:00] <Seveas> yey, that's in the list of modes of #ubuntu
[05:00] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntu___: How big is that drive, or how much unallocated space did you leave it
[05:00] <NthDegree> 6GB gfxstyler :p
[05:00] <gfxstyler> ubuntu___: sounds more like you switched the root partition with the swap partition :D
[05:00] <yey> Seveas: sorry for ot but what unregged means?
[05:01] <Jack_Sparrow> yep
[05:01] <NthDegree> peeps ubuntu___, let the installer do it so it allocated 1 6GB partition I believe
[05:01] <mindmedic> ubuntu___: do you have a seperate /home partition?
[05:01] <administrador> guys, I need to create images from a ubuntu installation and restore it using norton ghost
[05:01] <wheels3572> Jack_Sparrow, Under Xubuntu if you got Applications you see Accessories, Games, Multimedia Network etc. etc.  How can you rename one of them?
[05:01] <ubuntu___> mindmedic: no
[05:01] <NthDegree> administrador, WTF norton ghost is a windows program
[05:01] <gfxstyler> wheels3572: with the menu editor
[05:01] <hussam> is there a automated good backup tool? I installed sbackup and make it's cron job, but I didn't like it and am uninstalling it now. Is there a good alternative?
[05:02] <administrador> when I restore it... i have grub errors. I need
[05:02] <mindmedic> so you've got a nearly 6GB partition (-swap) and there is no space left?
[05:02] <administrador> NthDegree, humm... how can I do that using other programs?
[05:02] <krimzon> Jack_Sparrow: finally got to my hard disk
[05:02] <davegoodson> Hi, I'm having problems connecting to my wireless router with network-manager-gnome, it trys to connect then it just connects to someone else's router....... how do i fix it?
[05:02] <wheels3572> gfxstyler, that's what I thought too but it only shows include in green italics
[05:02] <Jack_Sparrow> wheels3572: gconf-editor browse to /apps/ is about as good a guess as I can make
[05:02] <NthDegree> administrador: you can't use norton ghost common sense tells you that
[05:03] <NthDegree> but you can use a disk dump util and make an image of your hard disk and burn it to DVD-RW
[05:03] <Jack_Sparrow> krimzon: great, almost finished with breakfast
[05:03] <gfxstyler> wheels3572: thats the debian system menu stuff i guess
[05:03] <administrador> NthDegree, is there other program I can use?
[05:03] <gfxstyler> wheels3572: maybe alacarte can do it? thats another menu editor
[05:03] <administrador> NthDegree, how can I do that? using dd?
[05:03] <qwerty2k> how do i find out what display number im current using?
[05:03] <wheels3572> gfxstyler, ok will try that
[05:04] <NthDegree> administrador, i'm not entirely sure since IMHO it's pointless to since all you need do to backup configuration is backup /etc and for your personal data backup /home
[05:04] <ZataH> anyone who nows how to set charset to ISO-8859-15 in Screen ?
[05:04] <Jack_Sparrow> administrador: try g4l   ghost 4 linux.. free, bootable cd...
[05:04] <bytecode> davegoodson: I tried gnome-network-manager but it didn't seem to work right for me, are you able to specify the ssid within the network manager correctly?  are you using WEP or WPA for security? If using WPA, Have you installed wpa_supplicant to handle the wpa authentication ?
[05:04] <Seveas> ZataH, welcome to the 21st century -- the world uses unicode now
[05:04] <ubuntu___> mindmedic: here is my df http://rafb.net/paste/results/UajWcu31.html
[05:05] <Jack_Sparrow> administrador: I would just do a full tar backup and use that..
[05:05] <GreenCult> hi all
[05:05] <ZataH> Seveas: hmm oki, but i cant use aa ae and so on
[05:05] <Seveas> sure you can
[05:05] <Jack_Sparrow> !backup > administrator
[05:05] <NthDegree> Seveas, I dont :p I use ISO-8859-1 I think
[05:05] <jordan> how do i restart kde without logging out? The desktop frose but nothing else did
[05:05] <Seveas> 
[05:05] <wheels3572> gfxstyler, Alacarte Menu Editor actually shows it as Internet like it does under regular Ubuntu lol.  That's wierd lol
[05:05] <mindmedic> ZataH: if you are writing a german website use the correct escape caracters
[05:06] <looksaus> any experience around here with wmv3/vc1 playback on platforms other than 32 bit x86?
[05:06] <wheels3572> Jack_Sparrow, how do I get to gconf editor?
[05:06] <gfxstyler> wheels3572: maybe you can edit the .desktop file directly @ /usr/share/applications ?
[05:06] <ZataH> mindmedic: what ?
[05:06] <mindmedic> oops... looks french :)
[05:06] <mindmedic> forget it
[05:06] <Jack_Sparrow> wheels3572: terminal
[05:06] <ZataH> it is DK iso
[05:06] <looksaus> it looks as if this is getting really close...
[05:06] <wheels3572> Ok gfxstyler  and Jack_Sparrow I will try
[05:06] <davegoodson> bytecode: the ssid sometime shows and sometimes it doesnt, it always shows that dam nextdoor's router which isnt secure, im using wpa and wpa_supplicant IS installed, i have connected to the router ONCE after some one told me to turn off MAC Filtering
[05:07] <Jack_Sparrow> wheels3572: Not sure it will do it, but that was my only guess.
[05:07] <Jack_Sparrow> krimzon: have you posted your grub yet?
[05:07] <krimzon> just about...
[05:08] <krimzon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20098
[05:08] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[05:08] <afief> how can i tar a number of folders recursively?
[05:08] <Kyral_Laptop> afief: why not?
[05:08] <bytecode> davegoodson: if your ssid on your AP is different to the ssid on your neighbours AP then it shouldn't try to connect to theirs.  it may show it as "available" when it scans though.
[05:08] <Kyral_Laptop> afief: just tar up the parent dir
[05:10] <davegoodson> bytecode: thats the problem, some times it does show and some times it doesnt, even if i try and connect it just stands there, then connects to the other one.....
[05:10] <wheels3572> Jack_Sparrow, what's the syntax to do that
[05:10] <afief> kyral_Laptop: yes, but i had to do it in command line, it's an SSH server
[05:10] <Kyral_Laptop> afief: and the problem is?
[05:10] <Kyral_Laptop> afief: you know how to use tar right?
[05:10] <Jack_Sparrow> wheels3572: gconf-editor
[05:10] <afief> kyral_Laptop: obviously, i don't
[05:10] <Kyral_Laptop> afief: man tar :P
[05:10] <rasputnik> afief: tar zcvf doodah.tgz foldername
[05:10] <wheels3572> Jack_Sparrow, ok ty
[05:10] <Kyral_Laptop> and don't feel bad I don't think ANYONE remembers all of tar's options
[05:11] <TonInter> Hello everyone.
[05:11] <Jack_Sparrow> krimzon: What all did you change in the original, just the windows section or more?
[05:11] <krimzon> just the windows bit
[05:11] <bytecode> davegoodson: have you looked at the following to see how to connect via command line to see if everything is well? http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/WPA
[05:11] <Jack_Sparrow> wheels3572: You may need gksudo to edit what you want
[05:11] <bytecode> davegoodson: also look at :   http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-31418.html%22***
[05:12] <Jack_Sparrow> krimzon: and after that change neither os will boot?
[05:12] <krimzon> yep
[05:13] <linuxd00d> hows comes i cant install gdesklets
[05:13] <linuxd00d> ?
[05:13] <krimzon> so i guess i can delete the windows section and boot linux
[05:13] <yey> Seveas: I will try to use http://sourceforge.net/project/screenshots.php?group_id=151507
[05:13] <wheels3572> Jack_Sparrow, regular sudo wont do it?
[05:13] <yey> Seveas: nice solution, hope it works
[05:13] <Jack_Sparrow> wheels3572:  gksudo for gnome apps
[05:13] <Jack_Sparrow> safer
[05:13] <davegoodson> bytecode: thanks for the links
[05:13] <krimzon> maybe i could split my swap paritition and put a small ntfs partition right at the start of the disk, then somehow put a windows bootloader on that
[05:14] <rasputnik> Jack_Sparrow: how's that?
[05:14] <yey> Jack_Sparrow: safer than gnomesu ?
[05:14] <Jack_Sparrow> wheels3572: full sudo can get you into trouble
[05:14] <Jack_Sparrow> krimzon: changes there should not do anything unless you select the XP menu item..
[05:14] <bytecode> davegoodson: np - hope that they help, I found that thsy really got me going with mine.  I did have to use two terminals and do a bit of experimenting to get it going, but it got me on at lest.
[05:14] <wheels3572> Ok
[05:14] <linuxd00d> ?
[05:14] <Jack_Sparrow> yey: safer than sudo
[05:14] <linuxd00d> hows comes i cant install gdesklets
[05:15] <rasputnik> linuxd00d: what have you tried?
[05:15] <webcruiser> Hi, I need help , anybody speak portuguese?
[05:16] <Subhuman> webcruiser, theres a portugese support channel
[05:16] <Jack_Sparrow> krimzon: You are in an uphill battle with Windows...  Linux dosent care...  XP really really wants to be primary on one
[05:16] <linuxd00d> well i used the add/remove manger in ubuntu, and it says it does not match my systems architechture
[05:16] <saik0> Is there any way to tell what package a file belongs to?
[05:16] <Subhuman> !portugal
[05:16] <wheels3572> Ahhhh nevermind I cant find it lol.  Just was bugging me it should read Internet and not NEtwork I would I assume lol
[05:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about portugal - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:16] <Subhuman> !portugese
[05:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about portugese - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:16] <Ng> saik0: dpkg -S /path/to/some/file
[05:16] <linuxd00d> !po
[05:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about po - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:16] <KenSentMe> !p
[05:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about p - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:16] <linuxd00d> !pr
[05:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about pr - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:17] <LethalSword> i just downloaded limewire but i guess ubuntu can't read rpm files?
[05:17] <webcruiser> !portugal
[05:17] <ubotu> I know nothing about portugal - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:17] <azureal> hi... anyone familiar w/ the utterly disgusting program Network Tools for gnome?
[05:17] <linuxd00d> rasputnik: well i used the add/remove manger in ubuntu, and it says it does not match my systems architechture
[05:17] <LethalSword> !frostwire
[05:17] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[05:17] <Ng> !pt
[05:17] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[05:17] <Jack_Sparrow> linuxd00d: portugese is close ehoung to spanish he will get the idea...
[05:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !es
[05:17] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:17] <eroticon> http://rafb.net/paste/results/KbI82C18.html
[05:17] <eroticon> now i get that error
[05:17] <Jack_Sparrow> cool
[05:17] <KenSentMe> LethalSword: you can also use alien to make .deb files from rpm's.
[05:17] <linuxd00d> jack_sparrow: yeah
[05:17] <webcruiser> Subhuman, whai channel?
[05:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Nice one ng
[05:18] <LethalSword> !alien
[05:18] <rasputnik> linuxd00d: have you enabled the universe repos?
[05:18] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[05:18] <eroticon> hello?
[05:18] <eroticon> http://rafb.net/paste/results/KbI82C18.html
[05:18] <eroticon> sup with X now?
[05:18] <Subhuman> webcruiser, #ubuntu-pt
[05:18] <webcruiser> tanks
[05:18] <fuzzybunny> ok I'm fucking pissed at ubuntu now
[05:18] <LethalSword> alien is dangerous?
[05:18] <azureal> no1 knows the program that screwed my life?  Gnome's Network Tools?
[05:18] <Subhuman> LethalSword, not dangerous per se, jus not 100% stable.
[05:18] <fuzzybunny> I have a Athlon64 and am trying to run Ubuntu on a MS Virtual PC
[05:18] <saik0> Ng, ok that didnt accomplish what i'm trying to do. but thanks
[05:18] <LethalSword> lol
[05:18] <Subhuman> azureal, i know them, they work fine for me
[05:18] <LethalSword> hmm
[05:19] <linuxd00d> rasputnik: no i dont think so i will go into software properties and do it,
[05:19] <saik0> How can i have dpkg reconfigure /etc/network/interfaces?
[05:19] <fuzzybunny> the install says my CPU doesn't support long mode and use a 32bit distro
[05:19] <fuzzybunny> wtf
[05:19] <azureal> subhuman: ok, i chose my wireless interface eth1... clicked Configure
[05:19] <linuxd00d> * hope i dont screw it up
[05:19] <azureal> Subhuman, and unchecked "enable this connection"
[05:19] <Jhair> azureal: in my experience kde is indeed faster than gnome (e.g. rendering of the menus)... so why not just change to kde:)?
[05:19] <rasputnik> linuxd00d: that's why then - switch them on, then update your list and install
[05:19] <azureal> Subhuman, nonw the interface is gone
[05:19] <azureal> it's GONE
[05:19] <linuxd00d> Rasputnik: ok cheera
[05:19] <Subhuman> what is it? pci card? pcmcia?
[05:19] <linuxd00d> Cheers*
[05:20] <eroticon> yo
[05:20] <Subhuman> in other words - can you pull it out and plug it back in?
[05:20] <eroticon> http://rafb.net/paste/results/KbI82C18.html
[05:20] <eroticon> whats wrong now?
[05:20] <azureal> Subhuman, internal
[05:20] <azureal> Subhuman, that doesnt matter
[05:20] <TonInter> How can I set up an adsl internet connection in Ubuntu 5.10
[05:20] <bytecode> LethalSword: be careful with LimeWire, I gave up using it becuase there's mostly a load of rubbish on there, but also a load of bots that wait and monitor what you are searching for, and then they rename images and trojan infected .exe's to match waht you are looking for to make unwary users download and infect their (predominantly)Windows boxes.
[05:20] <azureal> jhair: kde is bad too
[05:20] <Subhuman> azureal, itz odd, i have eth devices ive deactivated that still show up in the list...
[05:20] <kingman> Hi,Everyone,I am use qemu under ubuntu6.06,but I can't start guest system with tun,who used qemu,please help me,Thanks!!!
[05:21] <LethalSword> bytecode: does it really matter though?
[05:21] <azureal> Subhuman, very odd... i even rebooted and eth1 is still _not_ on the list
[05:21] <rasputnik> kingman: just choose 'user networking' - see the manpage
[05:21] <LethalSword> because linux has no viruses right?
[05:21] <LethalSword> and ones that were made stayed in the development labs
[05:21] <rasputnik> Assassin5: what's in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[05:21] <krimzon> Jack_Sparrow: deleting the windows part didn't work. but i havent done anything else to break it
[05:21] <Linuturk> LethalSword: you don't want to help spread them to others
[05:22] <mc|amb> hi, just wondering?? i own a dell laptop and the volume buttons work in ubuntu but not in kubuntu, why?? thanks
[05:22] <krimzon> all i could think of would be gedit saving it in another character set
[05:22] <andresmujica> kingman, put this line on qemu start -net nic,vlan=0 -net tap,vlan=0,ifname=tap0,script
[05:22] <bytecode> LethalSword: depends upon what you want from gnutella though, The gnutella network is mostly full of dodgy porn and pirated rubbish.  You can end up wasting more time that it's worth.  Linux has a few "proof-of-concpet" viruses, but crrently nothing to really worry about.  I just don't personally value anything that you can find on Gnutella, that's all.
[05:22] <andresmujica> kingman and create a /etc/qemu-ifup whith this
[05:22] <andresmujica> cat /etc/qemu-ifup
[05:22] <LethalSword> lol
[05:22] <andresmujica> #!/bin/sh
[05:22] <andresmujica> sudo /sbin/ifconfig $1 0.0.0.0 promisc up
[05:22] <andresmujica> sudo /usr/sbin/brctl addif br0 $1
[05:23] <kingman> rasputnik:Thanks,i want use start guest system with virtual network(tun),not DHCP.
[05:23] <LethalSword> Is there any other p2p program you use byetcode?
[05:23] <bytecode> LethalSword: and I'm just saying "be careful" especially if it's not a homogenous linux netwrk that you're on.
[05:23] <azureal> if anyone else has been following this problem.. do you think an appropriate change to /etc/network/interfaces would fix it?
[05:23] <stefg> !p2p
[05:23] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network). BitTorrent: see !torrent Direct connect: try valknut
[05:23] <Linuturk> LethalSword: I use torrents a lot, and I find them to be more effective, more quality, and such
[05:23] <TVu> Hi, all....My question if I may: User interface language of OpenOffice. How to add new one, Finnish in my case?
[05:24] <LethalSword> ok
[05:24] <Samuli^> azureul, what's your problem?
[05:24] <LethalSword> i installed bittornado
[05:24] <nn> is there a reason that my termcap seems slightly busted? i'm using a boring install of dapper.. and finding that a lot of curses apps (lynx in particular) have issues with rendering properly when scrolling.. lines breaking up/etc at odd places, my LINES and COLUMNS are proper
[05:24] <LethalSword> :)
[05:24] <yey> Does anyone have some experience in setting network connection through cellphone builtin modem (not nokia, sony-ericsson) ?
[05:24] <yey> .
[05:24] <yey> via Irda
[05:24] <yey> .
[05:24] <kingman> azureal: I am use modprobe tun load the tun,it displayed /etc/net/tun,but can't use ifconfig tun,set it IP addr.
[05:24] <azureal> TVu, ask in #openoffice.org
[05:24] <Linuturk> I've got a question. I had some downloads running via the built in Bittorrent in ubuntu. I had to restart, and I don't know where to go to pull all the downloads back up and restart them. Can anyone help with that?
[05:24] <azureal> tun...?
[05:25] <TVu> Ok, thanks azureal!
[05:25] <kingman> azureal: yeah,just virtual network,
[05:25] <azureal> ?
[05:25] <bytecode> Lethalsword: it's not the program that's the problem, LimeWire seems pretty good as a client, it's just that the network isn't exactly crammed with bonafide content, and there are a lot of "people" and bots out there that have ulterior motives behind what they are sharing.
[05:25] <kingman> azureal: Are you know it?
[05:25] <azureal> this program has apparently removed my eth1 interface.. i just want it back
[05:25] <azureal> i dont want to install or use _any_ new programs
[05:25] <Samuli^> Linuturk, you probably need the .torrents again and then choose the same folder to save them.
[05:26] <Linuturk> Samuli^: i was hoping you weren't going to say that :(
[05:26] <Samuli^> Linuturk, anyways, you'd be a lot better off with bittorrent from the bittorrent-site, it doesn't need any installing either.
[05:26] <stefg> TVu: check the System-Admin-Menu in gnome for the language support control applet. Check if the complete finnish languager support is installed, OpenOffice should be finnish then, too
[05:26] <Linuturk> Samuli^: it doesn't cache them anywhere?
[05:26] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys I am trying to make a decision on whether if i should continue trying to fix grub on my ubuntu drive which does not boot anymore thanks to windows drive dying and taking the bootloader with it or, Beginning a new install of ubuntu and having to re-download every package that i had and setting the whole thing up again...(i have been trying on this channel ubuntu forums and endless wiki pages to fix/install grub wi
[05:26] <bytecode> LethalSword: I've lost count of the number of times that I've ended up downloading what ends up being a JPG of an advert for some dodgy website or other, because a Bot has decided to pick up my search terms and rename it's dodgy Jpeg to make me thionk that it's a genuine search result.
[05:27] <LethalSword> :(
[05:27] <LethalSword> that sucks
[05:27] <Samuli^> Linuturk, you could check the ~/.bittorrent dir if you have one.
[05:27] <LethalSword> but the new limewire has content filtering
[05:27] <bytecode> LethalSword: have you looked at http://www.legaltorrents.com/index.htm and used bittorrent?
[05:27] <Linuturk> Samuli^: well, i like azureus a lot better, but when I installed it from the repos, it took forever to load up. Also, I tried to remove the Bittorrent included in ubuntu-desktop, but it wanted to remove ubuntu-desktop too :(
[05:27] <krimzon> Jack_Sparrow: how do i fix the MBR?
[05:27] <krimzon> or like, what do i do now?
[05:27] <LethalSword> byetcode: i use bitorrent all the time
[05:27] <krimzon> to reinstall grub or something
[05:28] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: If it's just grub (this is the MBR) the actual ubuntu install should be recoverable. It might be that your partition is messed, but this is fixable in most cases, too
[05:28] <Linuturk> Samuli^: .bittorrent is the first place I looked ;p
[05:28] <Samuli^> Linuturk, azureus is a memory hog, based on java and all that. Really, the bittorrent from the site is great.
[05:28] <nn> Paddy_EIRE: use a recovery CD
[05:28] <kingman> andresmujica:I am use modprobe tun load the tun,it displayed /etc/net/tun,but can't use ifconfig tun,set it IP addr.
[05:28] <LethalSword> i just installed frostwire
[05:28] <LethalSword> but it won't open
[05:28] <LethalSword> o_O
[05:28] <Linuturk> Samuli^: does it "remember" what torrentz you had running after a reboot?
[05:28] <Samuli^> Linuturk, yes.
[05:29] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: so what happens if you try to boot ubuntu? Grub-error with a number or blck screen with blinking cursor?
[05:29] <Linuturk> Samuli^: and I get this from www.bittorrent.com ? or where? in the repos anywhere?
[05:29] <Samuli^> Linuturk, and by the way, the ubuntu-desktop is just meta-file having dependecies to everything that comes with the ubuntu-gnome.
[05:29] <Paddy_EIRE> im in the live cd now and i have been on this channel under same circumstances trying to get fixed for quite a while now, so should i just loose everything and reinstall and never do dual boot again
[05:30] <Samuli^> Linuturk, it is nothing as itself, so you can go ahead and remove it.
[05:30] <eroticon> (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/mouse
[05:30] <eroticon> hrm
[05:30] <eroticon> i have a ps2 mouse
[05:30] <Samuli^> Linuturk, from the www.bittorrent.com
[05:30] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: That's paranoid nonsense :-))... what's your HD ? is it /dev/hda?
[05:30] <Linuturk> Samuli^: thanks for that ubuntu-desktop tidbit. I remember hearing that somewhere, but I wanted to make sure
[05:30] <nn> Paddy_EIRE: you can install grub from the live cd.. i've done it recently
[05:30] <Linuturk> Samuli^: thanks
[05:30] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg i cant remember the error number but it says that the disc is not at the loction specified even though it is
[05:30] <eroticon> fixed heh
[05:31] <eroticon>  /dev/psaux
[05:31] <Samuli^> Linuturk, unpack it somewhere and then 'python bittorrent.py' or make appropriate shortcut for it.
[05:31] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg /dev/hdc1
[05:31] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: so you're on the Live CD now... what does sudo fdisk -l tell you? Paste that into pastebin, plz.
[05:31] <Samuli^> you _don't_ need to install it. Actually might be better if you didn't.
[05:31] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[05:31] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: sudo fdsik -l /dev/hdc
[05:31] <Linuturk> Samuli^: it's got a readme on how to use it, right?
[05:31] <LethalSword> !tell LethalSword about java
[05:31] <Paddy_EIRE> !pastebin
[05:31] <stefg> *disk
[05:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:32] <Samuli^> Linuturk, what I said is pretty much all you need to know I think, but sure. :)
[05:32] <Linuturk> Samuli^: thanks again :)
[05:32] <Samuli^> Linuturk, the readme might have guide how to install it with the script it comes with, but that's really not necessary.
[05:33] <Linuturk> just running the .bin will do it? Samuli^?
[05:33] <erning> join #gentoo-cn
[05:34] <azureal> it works now
[05:34] <LethalSword> erm
[05:34] <Samuli^> Linuturk, oh, right. You'll need some stuff from the repositories like wxwidgets yms. to run it.
[05:34] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20101
[05:34] <stefg> k
[05:34] <LethalSword> it says i havent got java installed
[05:34] <Samuli^> Linuturk, no. use python bittorrent.py
[05:34] <diederick> hi all!
[05:34] <LethalSword> but i installed it last night
[05:34] <LethalSword> anybody help me?
[05:34] <diederick> Is there a WinSCP like util for ubuntu?
[05:34] <Kyral_Laptop> scp
[05:34] <Kyral_Laptop> :P
[05:35] <diederick> But with a gui ?
[05:35] <mindmedic> diederick: nautilus can do scp...
[05:35] <diederick> oke great! thanx
[05:35] <looksaus> diederick, ctrl-l in nautilus
[05:35] <diederick> thanx
[05:35] <saik0> diederick, you can use nautilus. if you have no location bar hit ctrl+L and in it put scp://user@host:port
[05:35] <maarvins1> hello every one
[05:35] <looksaus> en dan ssh://gebruikersnaam:wachtwoord@servernaam:remotedir
[05:35] <Linuturk> Samuli^: it makes me want to put up with Azureus the resource hog . . . b/c it's worked so good for me on windows
[05:35] <saik0> diederick, sorry ssh://
[05:36] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: Is LBA enabled in the Bios for this Harddisk?
[05:36] <diederick> thanx a lot!
[05:36] <maarvins1> is there any possibilities to tell synaptic to get packages from another place?
[05:36] <Linuturk> Samuli^: is there another in the repos you'd recommend?
[05:36] <Samuli^> Linuturk, if you have the horsepower for it, why not :)
[05:36] <mindmedic> open server -> ssh.. and enter the values... or open location and as saik0 suggests
[05:36] <lhds> i want to point to a file that runs in root privilesges in a link on desktop what to put before the link ?
[05:36] <looksaus> diederick, you know of the existence of #ubuntu-nl?
[05:36] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg i dont know it must have been it was working before the windows drive died anyway
[05:36] <diederick> yes thanx a lot looksaus !
[05:37] <Samuli^> Linuturk, only worthwhile torrent-progs I've found for linux are bittorrent and azureus. utorrent run with wine is great too.
[05:37] <saik0> lhds, gksudo
[05:37] <gborzi> hello to everyone, I need some help with printing
[05:37] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: Ok, so that broken drive is still in the computer being /dev/hda, but non-functional?
[05:37] <mindmedic> gborzi: whats your problem?
[05:38] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg yeah i unplugged it and put ubuntu on primary channel as master
[05:38] <gborzi> mindmedic: When I give a sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart it hangs!
[05:38] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: ah... now isee. grub got confused by that.
[05:39] <Shinzetsu> how do I install a *.cpkg file?
[05:39] <[Al] > OK I'm just wondering if there's a dvd player that supports dvd menus
[05:39] <mindmedic> gborzi: no error messages?
[05:39] <duaneb> hello?
[05:39] <daunt> yo
[05:39] <duaneb> uhh
[05:39] <duaneb> sudo gedit doens't open gedit
[05:39] <daunt> where is hotplug on ubuntu?  i've got a hotplugg'ing USB device i wanna use .. no /etc/init.d/hotplug?
[05:39] <saik0> Samuli^, torrentflux is handy as well
[05:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Shinzetsu: where did you get that package.
[05:39] <duaneb> gedit runs fine, but not with sudo
[05:39] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: so there is no /dev/hda at the moment
[05:39] <mindmedic> [Al] : totem, vlc, mplayer support dvd menus
[05:39] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg can grub not be freshly installed
[05:39] <Shinzetsu> Jack_Sparrow: internet ;)
[05:39] <Samuli^> saik0, haven't tried that. Thanks for tip.
[05:39] <Samuli^> the
[05:39] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: yes it can
[05:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Shinzetsu: They should have info on how it was put together
[05:39] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg no idont think so
[05:39] <daunt> where is hotplug on ubuntu?  i've got a hotplugg'ing USB device i wanna use .. no /etc/init.d/hotplug?
[05:39] <gborzi> mindmedic: no, but while it's hanged there are two cupsd processes running. As if cupsd is called two times.
[05:39] <[Al] > how do I get mplayer to do it? man mplayer just tells me to do mplayer dvd://<title>
[05:40] <Linuturk> Samuli^: what port do you usually use?
[05:40] <Shinzetsu> Jack_Sparrow: well when I open it i get a tgz and when I extract it I get some files
[05:40] <duaneb> ahah
[05:40] <duaneb> (gedit:11877): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[05:40] <duaneb> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[05:40] <maarvins1> is there any possibilities to tell synaptic to get packages from another place?
[05:40] <Shinzetsu> like /bin/ and /share/
[05:40] <duaneb> what does that mean?
[05:40] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg about the hda think
[05:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Shinzetsu: Did you check the repos for a similar package
[05:40] <Spydon> hehe i just installed ubuntu and i wonder how i get the command thingy up, sorry for my terrible english :P
[05:40] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: so let's see if the auto install of grub is smart enough to handle this
[05:40] <Shinzetsu> Jack_Sparrow: Repos dont have it
[05:40] <saik0> Samuli^, installation can be daunting
[05:40] <mindmedic> [Al] : Do you already have libcss installed?
[05:40] <Paddy_EIRE> ok
[05:40] <[Al] > I guess so
[05:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Shinzetsu: what specifically is it and where did you get it?
[05:41] <daunt> where is hotplug on ubuntu?  i've got a hotplugg'ing USB device i wanna use .. no /etc/init.d/hotplug?
[05:41] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: get a terminal and type sudo -s to get a root shell
[05:41] <sproingie> maarvins1: you edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:41] <[Al] > The DVD plays but I have to specify the chapter
[05:41] <mindmedic> ok
[05:41] <gdb> daunt: have you tried just plugging it in?
[05:41] <[Al] > what's the package name? (if there is one)
[05:41] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[05:41] <maarvins1> sproingie:
[05:41] <maarvins1> thanks
[05:41] <dubuntu> maarvins1, or look at Settings -> Repositories in synaptic
[05:41] <Shinzetsu> Jack_Sparrow: check your pm
[05:41] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: mount /dev/hdc1 /mnt
[05:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Shinzetsu: It is polite to ASK before PM
[05:41] <duaneb> eeek
[05:41] <duaneb> gnome-window-decorator, Failed to load shadow images
[05:41] <maarvins1> thanks a lot
[05:41] <daunt> gdb, yes, it doesn't work .. its a MIDISPORT 2x2 USB MIDI interface which worked fine on my slackware (2.4.x-based) system, but it seems everything is all changed on 2.6/ubuntu ..  i need to set up fxload/devmgr or something ..
[05:42] <Shinzetsu> Jack_Sparrow: sorry, didnt know
[05:42] <mindmedic> there should be a submenu entry in mplayer where you can go to the root menu. i don't use mplayer though so I can't help you more on this.
[05:42] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg yeah got that
[05:42] <diederick> looksaus: I'm getting "cannot display...." every time
[05:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Shinzetsu: let me see what you are working with
[05:42] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: cd /mnt
[05:42] <mindmedic> totem and vlc open the dvd menu automatically
[05:42] <gdb> daunt: Ah, I'm afraid I can't help with that.  The USB devices I've plugged into my machine "just work" but they're all storage devices.
[05:42] <Shinzetsu> Jack_Sparrow: thru pm?
[05:42] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[05:42] <looksaus> diederick, sec
[05:42] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[05:42] <diederick> yo
[05:42] <dubuntu> maarvins1, any package you are specifically after?
[05:42] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: chroot .
[05:43] <moi> hey
[05:43] <[Al] > mindmedic, totem says it can't play the DVD, and gmplayer has no option for dvd menu - just titles and chapters
[05:43] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg chroot: missing operand
[05:43] <Nimwei> Alright I'm in runlevel 2 at the moment..how do I switch over to 6 so I can access the GUI?
[05:43] <Linuturk> does ubuntu have a task manager equivilent?
[05:43] <dubuntu> [Al] , you could try ogle
[05:43] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: chroot [Space]  [dot] 
[05:43] <[Al] > I will do
[05:44] <gborzi> mindmedic: one of the two processes is connected to the console, the other isn't. If I press Ctrl+C I kill the console connected process and cups works fine.
[05:44] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg k
[05:44] <avu> nimwei: 6 is reboot :)
[05:44] <gdb> Nimwei: What is '6' referring to?  if you mean runlevel, 6 reboots the machine.
[05:44] <Nimwei> well damnit lol..5 then?
[05:44] <dubuntu> [Al] , then if you don't like that, xine
[05:44] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: grub
[05:44] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[05:44] <Nimwei> I just wanna get into the GUI and out of command line runlevel.
[05:44] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: you should have a grub prompt now
[05:44] <gborzi> mindmedic: but this is a problem when upgrading or installing cups-related packages.
[05:44] <Paddy_EIRE> yes
[05:44] <gdb> Nimwei: There is no "X" runlevel in Ubuntu.
[05:44] <gdb> Nimwei: /etc/init.d/gdm start
[05:45] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: find /boot/grub/stage1
[05:45] <saik0> Linuturk, gnome-system-monitor
[05:45] <Nimwei> No such file or dir .. yay
[05:45] <gdb> Nimwei: ie; there is no runlevel 5 for X, 3 for CLI like a Red Hat system
[05:45] <bytecode> [Al] : Kaffeine seems to do a good job with movies, menus etc...., it does require the appropriate KDE librariies but synaptic does a good job of hadling all of that.
[05:45] <zoidberg> hey guys
[05:45] <zoidberg> i need some help
[05:45] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg Error 15: File not found
[05:45] <gdb> Nimwei: Did you do an install of the Server CD?
[05:45] <Nimwei> I used the alternate CD
[05:45] <Nimwei> Installed in text mode.
[05:45] <zoidberg> i just installed badger on an old PII 350 MHZ 128 MB ram machine
[05:46] <zoidberg> its a DELL OPtiplex GXa
[05:46] <gdb> Nimwei: Hrm, "dpkg -l ubuntu-desktop" have that in there?
[05:46] <mindmedic> gborzi: mhh, this is strange, which printer have you got?
[05:46] <zoidberg> for some reason sound is not there
[05:46] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: Ok... I see. there's somthing missing
[05:46] <moi> this is not an ubuntu question, but am not sure where to turn.... Q, have just bought a sata drive, its made strange noises, so got a replacment, am trying to copy the data from one to the other, partition magic thinks the partition table is "bad" perhaps because of ubuntu, gparted live cd will not let me copy the pri partition to the other drive saying you cant have more than one pri partition, even though am trying to copy fr
[05:46] <moi> om one drive to another. How can I get around this or is there another app that will blind copy all partitions to the other drive?
[05:46] <zoidberg> when i look at the volum comtrol
[05:46] <Nimwei> Nope, let me get it.
[05:46] <zoidberg> it says no devices can be found
[05:46] <zoidberg> ?
[05:46] <Nimwei> Installing now.
[05:46] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: so type 'quit' to get out of grub
[05:46] <Paddy_EIRE> ok
[05:46] <gborzi> mindmedic: A samsung ML-1520, a NEC P20 and cups-pdf. But removing these doesn't help.
[05:46] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: cd /boot
[05:46] <looksaus> diederick, your problem was?
[05:46] <dubuntu> zoidberg, check your dmesg and do 'lspci' to see if your card is found
[05:47] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[05:47] <Nimwei> Any idea what the package name for samba is? I'm gonna need to setup file sharing as well so my windows systems can access the data.
[05:47] <gborzi> mindmedic: another thing. It works fine in single user mode.
[05:47] <diederick> I\'m trying ssh://username@server but I get an errro "can't display, please use another viewer"
[05:47] <dubuntu> or leave
[05:47] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: look up dd
[05:47] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: ls .... does it show a folder grub there?
[05:47] <gdb> Nimwei: Before you do that, note that ubuntu-desktop = GNOME, kubuntu-desktop = KDE, xubuntu-desktop = XFCE, and edubuntu-desktop = GNOME + educational software
[05:47] <Nimwei> *nod*  Thanks gdb. I'm familiar with Gnome.
[05:47] <gdb> Nimwei: The package name is 'samba'
[05:47] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg yeah its there
[05:47] <looksaus> diederick, maybe you should check that you have all gnomevfs stuff installed
[05:48] <diederick> oh oke
[05:48] <foomonkey> apt-cache search samba
[05:48] <mindmedic> gborzi: sorry, I can't help you with that... maybe file a bug on launchpad.net...
[05:48] <diederick> currently i'm upgrading to 6.>
[05:48] <moi> Jack_Sparrow, got any more info than dd? google dont like dd
[05:48] <looksaus> dpkg -l |grep vfs
[05:48] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: dd is terminal command, very powerful
[05:48] <gborzi> mindmedic: already filed a bug. Thanks for your kind answers.
[05:48] <bit_doidao> helo there! i deleted /var/cache/apt/archives/* and now apt-get doesnt want to work. how to fix it?
[05:48] <looksaus> diederick, 6.06? or edgy?
[05:48] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: let me see if I have a link
[05:48] <diederick> thing 6.06 i'm using the "update manager"
[05:49] <looksaus> ok
[05:49] <moi> Jack_Sparrow: thanks m8
[05:49] <yoni> Hi all
[05:49] <krimzon> my computer keeps ending up more and more screwed
[05:49] <looksaus> try that first
[05:49] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: cd grub ... check if there's a couple of files in there.. especially stage 1
[05:49] <looksaus> then see what happens
[05:49] <yoni> What is the apt argument I should write to update some application? like xchat for example or gaim?
[05:49] <[Al] > ogle seems pretty good. cheers dubuntu
[05:49] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: by ls of course
[05:49] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: I just did linux dd command and fould volumes
[05:49] <bit_doidao> hello there! i deleted /var/cache/apt/archives/* and now apt-get doesnt want to work. how to fix it?
[05:50] <Jack_Sparrow> found
[05:50] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg yeah its there with quite a few other files
[05:50] <mathieu> yoni: 'install'
[05:50] <gdb> bit_doidao: mkdir -p /var/cache/apt/archives/partial ; touch /var/cache/apt/archives/lock ; chmod 640 /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[05:50] <gdb> bit_doidao: And pray!
[05:50] <dubuntu> [Al] , cool. works for me even on a 333 celeron, plays well
[05:50] <gdb> bit_doidao: I don't know if that will fix it or not.
[05:50] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg can this not be deleted and reinstalled
[05:50] <yoni> apt-get install?
[05:50] <moi> Jack_Sparrow: Looking now... found a wikkipidia link also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_(Unix)
[05:50] <mathieu> yoni: try it
[05:50] <yoni> kk, thanks
[05:50] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: then try 'grub-install'
[05:50] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: very usefull tool
[05:50] <[Al] > awesome. now it just needs a stay-on-top ^_^
[05:50] <[Al] > see yas
[05:51] <LethalSword> what's a good media player?
[05:51] <gerhard> xmms
[05:51] <anoobis> if anyone has got a free minute - i've installed ubuntu on one drive and i primarily run winXP on another. i want to swap the ubuntu drive out with another data drive i have. when i remove the ubuntu drive and reboot i get a grub error - any ideas? reinstall grub?
[05:51] <gerhard> vlc
[05:51] <anoobis> vlc
[05:51] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg install_device not specified
[05:51] <Shinzetsu> LethalSword: Music: amaroK - Video: MPlayer
[05:51] <LethalSword> ok
[05:51] <LethalSword> !tell LethalSword about amaroK
[05:51] <foomonkey> banshee
[05:51] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: 'grub-install /dev/hdc'
[05:51] <bit_doidao> gdb, worked great! thanks!
[05:51] <Shinzetsu> LethalSword: if you cant get amaroK working get easyubuntu
[05:51] <Jack_Sparrow> anoobis: Do you intend to keep swapping those drives?
[05:52] <anoobis> yes :E
[05:52] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg /dev/hdc: Not found or not a block device.
[05:52] <gdb> bit_doidao: Sure thing!
[05:52] <dubuntu> LethalSword, my vote is for xmms
[05:52] <dubuntu> LethalSword, and ogle :)
[05:52] <gdb> bit_doidao: It's probably the lock file it was looking for.
[05:52] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg ive done alot of this before
[05:52] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg people normally just give up on me
[05:52] <duaneb> anyone have a good guide on how to use xgl/compiz?
[05:52] <LethalSword> !tell LethalSword about xmms
[05:52] <duaneb> non of them work for me
[05:52] <bit_doidao> gdb, if you comes to brazil, ill buy you a beer :)
[05:52] <Jack_Sparrow> anoobis: I would probably create a grub floppy for that situation
[05:52] <dubuntu> Paddy_EIRE, never give up on the Irish!
[05:52] <krimzon> hmm... "ntldr is missing, press ctrl+alt+del to restart"
[05:52] <Jack_Sparrow> !boot
[05:52] <ubotu> Boot options: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto
[05:53] <moi> Jack_Sparrow: wow "it is used in computer forensics when the contents of a partition need to be preserved in a byte-exact copy."
[05:53] <duaneb> I get a couple errors:
[05:53] <duaneb> compiz.real: No composite extension
[05:53] <Paddy_EIRE> dubuntu yeah i wont give up
[05:53] <duaneb> and gnome-window-decorator, Failed to load shadow images
[05:53] <anoobis> Jack_Sparrow ok thanks
[05:53] <gdb> bit_doidao: You may want to look into using "apt-get clean" and "apt-get autoclean" -- they're documented in the manpage.  To be honest, all "clean" does is delete everything other than that lock file.  autoclean deletes stored packages that can't be downloaded anymore (older versions, ones from disabled repos, etc).
[05:53] <gdb> bit_doidao: hehe thanks!
[05:53] <moi> !dd
[05:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about dd - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:53] <Jack_Sparrow> krimzon: Your still fighting an uphill battle with windows not being on the primary
[05:53] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: there's a hardware or biaos problem, so although everything /looks/ fine it obviously isn't
[05:54] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg what should be done do u think
[05:54] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: yes, I said it was usefull
[05:54] <dubuntu> Jack_Sparrow, and dangerous :)
[05:54] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: try 'grub-install --recheck /dev/hdc'
[05:54] <Jack_Sparrow> YEp, I said that too
[05:54] <dubuntu> Jack_Sparrow, good, because there are a lot of these dd questions
[05:55] <dubuntu> Jack_Sparrow, i'm sure people are hosing partitions
[05:55] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg /dev/hdc: Not found or not a block device.
[05:55] <Jman888> How can i restart the kde desktop without logging out? Because my desktop froze but everything else is working.
[05:55] <krimzon> hmm... i guess i can phase windows onto the primary then
[05:55] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg ill reboot after i check bios and that
[05:55] <Jack_Sparrow> dubuntu: And most do it without dd, imagine what they can do with a real power tool. :)
[05:55] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: which is nonsens because we just got the partition list
[05:55] <jamesM> Jman888, you mean like relaunching the finder in OS X?
[05:55] <gh0zt> Hello
[05:55] <dubuntu> lol
[05:55] <Pntkl> hello
[05:55] <Shinzetsu> Jman888: startkde in terminal?
[05:56] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg yeah i know thats why i think ppl give up
[05:56] <moi> Jack_Sparrow: bingo! This will write the first partition of the first harddisk to the file mywindowspartition.image.
[05:56] <moi>     dd if=/dev/hda1 of=mywindowspartition.image
[05:56] <Jman888> jamesM, I think.
[05:56] <moi> Jack_Sparrow: thx
[05:56] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: You cut and pasted that...  :)
[05:56] <Jman888> Shinzetsu, RestartKde?
[05:56] <moi> yup
[05:56] <moi> forgot ""
[05:56] <abhinay> hw to backup my system ? (personal information, personal settings, themes)
[05:56] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: when you reboot give your Bios setting a visit. Check LBA is enabled, and possibly take note which geometry the BIOS thinks the drive has
[05:56] <Shinzetsu> Jman888: try it, or try startkde (starts so may start again)
[05:56] <Pntkl> dunno
[05:56] <gh0zt> no
[05:57] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: good luck, you will be fine
[05:57] <Shinzetsu> Jman888: note that linux is case-sensitive, so try restartkde and startkde
[05:57] <[Ex0r] > hmm
[05:57] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg i might be a little while as running this live cd is slow to boot then sort gaim again and keyboard ahhhhhh
[05:57] <jamesM> Jman888 I think you can do it from command line, but I forget the commands
[05:57] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: that's fine with me :-)
[05:57] <Paddy_EIRE> sure
[05:57] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: fyi there is also g4l  ghost 4 linux...
[05:58] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: bootable cd
[05:58] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: Nothing more than a glorified frontend for dd
[05:58] <Elive_user69> Paddy_EIRE :
[05:58] <moi> Jack_Sparrow: again thx, that will come in handy now and in times to come no doubt
[05:59] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: np come back any time
[06:01] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: dd is a sledgehammer of tools, be sure you know where it is going before you swing it
[06:02] <moi> Jack_Sparrow: rgr that, also, g4l is an invalid project at SF, looking for another mirror
[06:03] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: I have it here if you want the iso
[06:03] <moi> Jack_Sparrow, yes, thankyou
[06:04] <moi> Jack_Sparrow: via email?
[06:04] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: ftp://fedoragcc.dyndns.org/
[06:04] <Spydon> My sound doesnt work... Anyone who can help me?
[06:05] <Jack_Sparrow> !alsa
[06:05] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[06:05] <Spydon> thx!
[06:05] <azureal> spydon: did it ever work? what were the circumstances
[06:05] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[06:05] <Spydon> nope not in ubuntu
[06:05] <Spydon> but i just installed it :P
[06:05] <yoni> Hi all
[06:06] <salah> is there a way to turn of the screen via command line? it's a laptop machine
[06:06] <lhds> please tell me that there are hotkeys that makes y switch betwen 1 workspace and another
[06:06] <azureal> maybe you're just not part of the "audio" group =P
[06:06] <jordanau> how would i partially open a text file? I just downloaded the aol search results and the 200 Mb text files are a problem
[06:06] <yoni> How can I reset the file system service without resset the box? I just finish to mount my NTFS windows hard drive..
[06:06] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: Did you find it?
[06:06] <Jack_Sparrow> yoni: You set that for read only correct?
[06:06] <ompaul> !away > rottingmcdonalds
[06:06] <yoni> yes
[06:07] <LethalSword> is there any partition managing program i can download that i can run in linux?
[06:07] <yoni> but I edited the fstab file manually
[06:07] <moi> Jack_Sparrow: yes, downloading v0.21 now.
[06:07] <jordanau> !Partition
[06:07] <jamesM> i'm in amroK and I try to play some mp3s and they will look like they're playing for two seconds and then it'll say playlist finished
[06:07] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[06:07] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: It is also a handy tool
[06:07] <LethalSword> !GParted
[06:07] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[06:07] <Jack_Sparrow> yoni: I just used the !diskmounter script
[06:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !diskmounter
[06:08] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[06:08] <LethalSword> !QTParted
[06:08] <yoni> yes, same here..
[06:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about QTParted - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:08] <moi> Jack_Sparrow: cant thankyou enough! this tool opens up so very much for me, now I can add a data recovery service to my cv ;)
[06:08] <Jack_Sparrow> yoni: restart x
[06:08] <yoni> though I wanted to change the media paths, & priv's
[06:08] <yoni> :\
[06:08] <Uluru> Can anyone tell me to set ubuntu to use charset iso-8859-15?
[06:08] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: glad to help, if you have questions on g4l just ask
[06:08] <azureal> what's the command to have whatever I type go into a filename (e.g. test) until i hit Ctrl+D?
[06:08] <yoni> what is the command to reset x? I'm noobie with linux
[06:08] <azureal> i know it's something >> test
[06:09] <azureal> but i forget the something! =P
[06:09] <Jack_Sparrow> yoni: ctrl-alt-backspace if I remember right
[06:09] <yoni> kk, brb
[06:09] <Jack_Sparrow> yoni: I only did it once
[06:09] <moi> Jack_Sparrow, also, have added your ftp to my bookmarks, hope you dont mind?
[06:10] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[06:10] <moi> thx
[06:10] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: while
[06:10] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: you are at it get this  http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[06:11] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: Live cd with av for windows
[06:11] <Jack_Sparrow> and much more
[06:11] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: You will be like a kid in a candy shop with that
[06:12] <moi> Jack_Sparrow, thx for reminding me about that, had it years ago!
[06:13] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: Have fun with the new toys...
[06:13] <moi> Jack_Sparrow: going to try g4l now, thanks again, later! Will do!
[06:14] <azureal> ah...i cant remember the command...
[06:14] <tiston-laptop> hi evrybody
[06:14] <azureal> it would read your commandline input until you hit Ctrl+D
[06:15] <mapu> hello all- I have a raid1/boot question
[06:15] <azureal> ....and put all that you typed into a file
[06:15] <tiston-laptop> i nedde some help for my new laptop asus a8f
    >>  file
[06:15] <tiston-laptop> bluetooth help
[06:15] <azureal> fill in the blank, someone!
[06:15] <Nimwei> Alrighty - anybody know how to setup VNC to allow a graphical display rather than a command prompt? I've read through the docs and can't find anything.
[06:15] <azureal> omg.. it's cat!
[06:16] <azureal> cat!!
[06:16] <zoidberg> hey guys i need some help
[06:16] <moi> !help
[06:16] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[06:16] <NthDegree> !question
[06:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about question - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:16] <zoidberg> just installed badger on PII 350 MHZ 128 MB RAM DELL OPTIPLEX GXa
[06:16] <zoidberg> the sound is mute
[06:16] <moi> !ask away
[06:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about ask away - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:16] <NthDegree> zoidberg, breezy badger is old
[06:16] <zoidberg> so i go to unmute it and it says there is no volume comtrol element
[06:16] <moi> !meaning of life
[06:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about meaning of life - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:16] <zoidberg> ?
[06:16] <zoidberg> i know
[06:17] <NthDegree> why not use dapper drake
[06:17] <zoidberg> i had sometroubles installing it
[06:17] <NthDegree> use the alternate install CD then
[06:17] <mapu> switched from suse to kubuntu- 3 raid devices md0 (/boot) md1 (/home) and md2(/)- upon successful install, reboot produces "unkown filesystem 0x82" which is swap-
[06:17] <jordanau> zoidberg, what kind of troubles?
[06:17] <zoidberg> i cant remember now
[06:17] <mapu> but the / device is md2 formatted as reiserfs
[06:17] <zoidberg> ?
[06:17] <NthDegree> the Desktop CD is the equivalent to the breezy badger live CD
[06:17] <tiston-laptop> i ve just install dapper drake in my laptop asus a8f h056H all works fine
[06:17] <zoidberg> but can i update to dapper without wiping my hard drive
[06:17] <hadar> hi, what is the url to install ubuntu from disk-on-key? i can't find ot on the site
[06:17] <ubuntu> hey... how can i open de 'text mode', in ubuntu???
[06:17] <jamesM> !James
[06:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about James - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:18] <Shinzetsu> jack_Sparrow: eww, read failure
[06:18] <zoidberg> using some apt paclage or somthing
[06:18] <hadar> !install
[06:18] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[06:18] <tiston-laptop> but not bluetooth
[06:18] <jamesM> !bluetooth
[06:18] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[06:18] <gustavogrs> apt
[06:18] <tiston-laptop> i ve read all help
[06:18] <NthDegree> zoidberg, the Alternate Install CD is what you want for installing future versions of ubuntu
[06:18] <tiston-laptop> but nothing work
[06:18] <tiston-laptop> when push button the led dont want light on
[06:18] <zoidberg> can i just install dapper now from the internet...from a repository?
[06:19] <zoidberg> update i mean?
[06:19] <NthDegree> yes
[06:19] <azureal> !keywords
[06:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about keywords - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:19] <NthDegree> you need to change the apt repositories to dapper ones
[06:19] <hadar> found it
[06:19] <NthDegree> then do apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:19] <stefg> !netinstall
[06:19] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[06:19] <zoidberg> how do i do that
[06:19] <IAskew> !builtins > IAskew
[06:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about builtins  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Shinzetsu: that was four problems ago, please refresh me
[06:19] <jamesM> !netboot
[06:19] <Nimwei> zoidberg -- Yes, edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:19] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[06:19] <NthDegree> zoidberg, i think it is /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:19] <azureal> !botsnack
[06:19] <ubotu> Yum!
[06:19] <Shinzetsu> Jack_Sparrow: nevermind :P
[06:19] <NthDegree> :| rofl
[06:19] <zoidberg> and then?
[06:20] <sumojim> Does anyone know if there is something availiable like print master or print artist?
[06:20] <fuzzybunny> hello can anyone help me?
[06:20] <NthDegree> and then make the words breezy into dapper
[06:20] <Shinzetsu> fuzzybunny: if you tell us what, yes.
[06:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Shinzetsu: Ah, I rmemeber...
[06:20] <mantono^> Does anyone here know the name of a program that can creats vCards?
[06:20] <NthDegree> change all the brezzy into dapper :)
[06:20] <stefg> !ask > fuzzybunny
[06:20] <NthDegree> !ask
[06:20] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:20] <Nimwei> zoidberg - add these lines
[06:20] <Nimwei> deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[06:20] <fuzzybunny> I run a Athlon 64 and need to get VMWare
[06:20] <Nimwei> deb-src http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[06:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Shinzetsu: Getting stuff from there without source code available will bite you one of these days
[06:21] <jamesM> !the french
[06:21] <ubotu> I know nothing about the french - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:21] <azureal> justask!
[06:21] <fuzzybunny> which version should I get to run 64bit ubuntu?
[06:21] <azureal> haha
[06:21] <fuzzybunny> http://register.vmware.com/content/download.html
[06:21] <NthDegree> Nimwei all he needs to do is swap the words breezy with dapper
[06:21] <hadar> i have 4 cd's vurned as IAMGE cd's with ubuntu ISO, two of server, two of desktop. None of it worked. im attending to install from usb Stick. Is it possible to copy the files from the cd's or i should d/l the iso again?
[06:21] <Shinzetsu> Jack_Sparrow: yep I know that
[06:21] <hadar> IAMGE=IMAGE
[06:21] <NthDegree> fuzzybunny, ROFLLMFAO grab the tarball
[06:21] <azureal> the u-bot is fun
[06:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Shinzetsu: No more preaching.. I promise
[06:21] <Nimwei> Yep.
[06:21] <IAskew> !logic
[06:21] <ubotu> I know nothing about logic - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:21] <Shinzetsu> Jack_Sparrow: xD its okay
[06:21] <andriijas> how do i just change the sound card alsa uses?
[06:21] <jamesM> !ubotu
[06:21] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[06:21] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg im back man, u wouldnt believe it my ide cables had been changed last night my mate needed to run some stuff of at my printer so changed everything around to boot his...sry... should we start again i put the drive in as primary master and cd drive dvd drives as secondary cableselect the bios picks everything up fine and lba is on drive also has correct size
[06:21] <fuzzybunny> but I'm running windows
[06:22] <duaneb> what is THE tutorial for xgl/compiz?
[06:22] <NthDegree> fuzzybunny, :| wtf please explain
[06:22] <fuzzybunny> I just want to run a ubuntu virtual box
[06:22] <abhinay> mantono^, Liferea
[06:22] <duaneb> preferably with a gdm login option
[06:22] <NthDegree> fuzzybunny, then grab the windows version
[06:22] <jordanau> !comiz > duaneb
[06:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about comiz  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:22] <jordanau> !compiz > duaneb
[06:22] <hadar> any1 ?
[06:22] <azureal> !tr
[06:22] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[06:22] <Jack_Sparrow> !xgl
[06:22] <fuzzybunny> NthDegree, the very top one?
[06:22] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:22] <NthDegree> fuzzybunny, i'm not looking at the site but in order to run VMWare Server you need windows server 2003
[06:22] <mantono^> abhinay: Thanks!
[06:23] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: ROFL... that's the kind of troubleshooting with unexpected human factors :-)
[06:23] <fuzzybunny> NthDegree, it runs on xp for some reason
[06:23] <NthDegree> or a version of linux of course
[06:23] <duaneb> thanks
[06:23] <NthDegree> fuzzybunny, it does for now but it was made for Server 2003
[06:23] <jamesM> can you netboot ubuntu?
[06:23] <jordanau> hadar, do an md5 checksum on the isos and make sure you are not burning the actual iso file on to the cd
[06:23] <fuzzybunny> oh NthDegree then what should I get for a XP machine?
[06:23] <abhinay> !locale
[06:23] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LocaleConf
[06:23] <azureal> !ping
[06:23] <ubotu> pong
[06:23] <azureal> !pong
[06:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about pong - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:24] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: Ok, so give me a complete 'sudo fdisk -l' listing again on pastebin, plz
[06:24] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg yeah i know that head banging of wall kind of things
[06:24] <jamesM> !where's the love in a lap dance?
[06:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about where's the love in a lap dance? - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:24] <NthDegree> fuzzybunny, either use VMWare Player and use something like easyvmx to make a VM with or repartition and multiboot ubuntu and windows
[06:24] <zoidberg> what lines do i need to add to source.list to update to dapper from badger
[06:24] <zoidberg> ?
[06:25] <azureal> !yourself > jamesM
[06:25] <azureal> =P
[06:25] <jamesM> !jamesM
[06:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about jamesM - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:25] <ompaul> jamesM, please don't play with the bot
[06:25] <NthDegree> zoidberg, I have told you 8 times now CHANGE THE WORDS "breezy" with "dapper"
[06:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Please stop playing with the bot
[06:25] <stefg> !botabuse
[06:25] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[06:25] <jamesM> ompaul, the bot is fun!
[06:25] <azureal> don't ban him!
[06:25] <NthDegree> phew that is evil, but i guess this isnt ubuntu-offtopic ^.^
[06:26] <lindo_ferretti> i have problems about gnome...could anyone help me?
[06:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask
[06:26] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:26] <ompaul> azureal, I am having a little chat on the side
[06:26] <fuzzybunny> NthDegree, kk I'm getting vmplayer thank you :)
[06:26] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20105
[06:26] <azureal> ompaul: he's a regular
[06:26] <stefg> k
[06:26] <zoidberg> whats werid is that all the lines in the source.list already say dapper not badger
[06:26] <zoidberg> ?
[06:26] <ych> hi
[06:26] <mapu> can ubuntu (dapper) boot from a raid1 device?
[06:26] <mapu> (software raid)
[06:26] <warlocky> can I have auto eth0 AND auto eth1 in interfaces?
[06:26] <matti> mapu: Yes, probably.
[06:27] <Jack_Sparrow> mapu: sata raid
[06:27] <Jack_Sparrow> ?
[06:27] <RedMonkey> lindo_ferretti: whats the problem? you have to be a little bit more specific
[06:27] <matti> mapu: With proper initramfs.
[06:27] <mapu> no sata- md devices
[06:27] <vptr> anyone know of an easy way to use dd to clear the persistant superblock in software-raid
[06:27] <NthDegree> fuzzybunny, my best advice is get a repartitioning tool and multiboot (you get the choice if which you want to load when you boot up)
[06:27] <fuzzybunny> and wtf is this ubotu?
[06:27] <NthDegree> ubotu, is the bot
[06:27] <QMario> Ompaul, what did he do?
[06:27] <fuzzybunny> oh
[06:27] <warlocky> can I have auto eth0 AND auto eth1 in interfaces?
[06:27] <Jack_Sparrow> fuzzybunny: It saves us a lot of typing
[06:27] <lindo_ferretti>  i use kubuntu and xubuntu , i tried to install gnome but it doesn't run , could anyone help me?
[06:27] <fuzzybunny> I dont' want to dual boot, I'm merely playing with ubuntu
[06:28] <fuzzybunny> I want to keep it safely contained in a virtual machine
[06:28] <NthDegree> lindo_ferretti, try selecting GNOME on gdm
[06:28] <fuzzybunny> so it doesn't contaminate my other quality applications
[06:28] <hadar> IAMGE=IMAGE
[06:28] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: Ahhh... better now. Now the drive is where it belongs, first drive on first channel. Ok, so get the terminal, 'sudo -s' for root access 'mount /dev/hda1 /mnt'
[06:28] <hadar> i have 4 cd's burned as IMQGE cd's with ubuntu ISO, two of server, two of desktop. None of it worked. im attending to install from usb Stick. Is it possible to copy the files from the cd's or i should d/l the iso again?
[06:28] <NthDegree> lindo_ferretti: under sessions
[06:28] <mapu> matti - I installed successfunlly - but it won't boot from md2 (my raid1 device mounted as /)
[06:28] <zoidberg> okay i changed the sources.list
[06:28] <zoidberg> now how do i upgrade to dapper from badger?
[06:28] <fuzzybunny> if I like it then I'd dual boot or something
[06:28] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg nice one
[06:29] <jordanau> hadar, did my advice not help?
[06:29] <glen_> zoidberg, sudo apt-get update
[06:29] <NthDegree> fuzzybunny: it isn't safe for one thing
[06:29] <ompaul> glen_, wrong
[06:29] <ych> argh why am i stupid and installed 64bit version
[06:29] <glen_> zoidberg, sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:29] <ravenous> has anyone has problems with totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin needing the older version of totem-gstreamer? mines says the new totem-gstreamer i have installed is too new?
[06:29] <ompaul> !upgrade > zoidberg
[06:29] <ych> time to reinstall 1386
[06:29] <ompaul> !upgrade > glen_
[06:29] <Jack_Sparrow> hadar: try slowing down the burn if you have not already...
[06:29] <NthDegree> fuzzybunny: VMWare has been b0rked so it leaked into the host OS several times now
[06:29] <glen_> ompaul, update then upgrade
[06:29] <ompaul> no
[06:29] <unknown_one> hello
[06:29] <warlocky> can I have auto eth0 AND auto eth1 in interfaces?
[06:29] <ompaul> glen_,  read the message from the bot
[06:30] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: But i understood that this drive was hdc when you installed ubuntu, right? That would require a change of some files, namely /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:30] <unknown_one> I'm having some problems with the nvidia drivers on ubuntu :(
[06:30] <ompaul> zoidberg, ubotu has send you a message on that
[06:30] <hadar> Jack_SparrowL i did. like ur nick btw `)
[06:30] <fuzzybunny> NthDegree, :(
[06:30] <Jack_Sparrow> unknown_one: HOw did you install the drivers?
[06:30] <unknown_one> I installed the k7 kernel using apt-get install linux-image-k7 and then installed the nvidia drivers using apt-get install nvidia-glx
[06:30] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks
[06:30] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg would i also need to change the cd and dvd drive entries aswell? they have been move to secondary
[06:31] <hadar> Jack_SparrowL i dont mind installl from usb stick. i just want to know where can i get syslinux for windows, and if i can copy the files from the cd's i burned.
[06:31] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: Probably, but whe come to that later
[06:31] <glen_> ompaul, dist-upgrade?
[06:31] <unknown_one> but xorg fails to start and it tells me module 'nvidia' does not exist.
[06:31] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[06:31] <unknown_one> I've checked using lsmod | grep nvidia
[06:31] <ompaul> glen_, change sources and then dist-upgrade the bot sent you a how to
[06:31] <NthDegree> fuzzybunny, ubuntu is quite safe (so even if VMWare b0rks things should be ok) and if things don't go well then just grab one of the many other distros around!
[06:31] <unknown_one> and the module is there
[06:31] <unknown_one> but it doesn't work
[06:31] <Jack_Sparrow> hadar: I dont think so but the bot might have info
[06:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !boot
[06:31] <ubotu> Boot options: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto
[06:32] <mapu> at this point I'd say ubuntu dapper can not successfully boot from software raid.
[06:32] <fuzzybunny> NthDegree, you're a great help :) thank you
[06:32] <jamesM> can you netboot ubuntu off a remote server?
[06:32] <Jack_Sparrow> hadar: Sorry that is not it..
[06:32] <unknown_one> Jack_Sparrow: any ideas?
[06:32] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: so you have your root terminal and the ubuntu partition mount to /mnt? Then 'cd /mnt' 'chroot .'
[06:32] <hadar> yeah i know :)
[06:32] <fuzzybunny> NthDegree, I really gotta try this I heard its friendly for windows geeks like myeslf
[06:32] <mapu> will change the / partition to non raid and test
[06:32] <Jack_Sparrow> unknown_one: what problem are you having?
[06:32] <hadar> Jack_Sparrow: i d\l syslinux from linux.org, but in the zip file there are c and h files, no exe..
[06:32] <ompaul> fuzzybunny, as long as you realise it is an alternative not a replacement
[06:33] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg ok
[06:33] <unknown_one> Jack_Sparrow: x fails to start and says that module 'nvidia' does not exist. and it fails to load glcore.
[06:33] <NthDegree> fuzzybunny, TBH the software itself isn't what makes it friendly - it's the support you get
[06:33] <unknown_one> Jack_Sparrow: I've tried both the driver in the repositories and the nvidia installer from nvidia.com
[06:33] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: we first try a simple 'grub-install'
[06:33] <fuzzybunny> ompaul, so its kinda like doing a chick in the ass...something that's fun to do every now and then but not every day?
[06:33] <NthDegree> ^.^
[06:33] <ompaul> !language
[06:33] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:33] <unknown_one> Jack_Sparrow: running 2.6.15.26-k7
[06:33] <jordanau> !language
[06:33] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg
[06:33] <hadar> Jack_Sparrow: is there a way to create an exe file from all the c files ?
[06:33] <hadar> im on windows currently
[06:33] <fuzzybunny> lol the bot is going crazy
[06:33] <Jack_Sparrow> hadar: No
[06:34] <ompaul> fuzzybunny, so ehh I was talking about comptuers
[06:34] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg grub-install /dev/hda ???
[06:34] <ompaul> fuzzybunny, mind your language thanks
[06:34] <fuzzybunny> ompaul, sry was just making an analogy (shauvanist one at that)
[06:34] <hadar> oh i found it
[06:34] <fuzzybunny> was j/k :)
[06:34] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: if you like it, but iirc grub assumes /dev/hda when nothing else is given
[06:34] <fuzzybunny> but thank you all
[06:34] <nalioth> fuzzybunny: we are a bit more enlightened here
[06:34] <Jack_Sparrow> unknown_one: I need to think on that, someone may have an answer, Im running 6600 pci-e here just fine
[06:34] <Paddy_EIRE> ok
[06:34] <fuzzybunny> yes you seem it
[06:35] <jordanau> E is for Enlightenment
[06:35] <Paddy_EIRE> root@ubuntu:/# grub-install /dev/hda
[06:35] <Paddy_EIRE> /dev/hda: Not found or not a block device.
[06:35] <unknown_one> Jack_Sparrow: the weird thing is it worked fine with the 386 kernel but the k7 kernel drops my CPU temp a few degrees so I prefer to use k7.
[06:35] <looksaus> andersja, yes, I have, but unfortunately, I can't give you any advice on it
[06:35] <NthDegree> fuzzybunny, keep this in mind: Linux is the OS so if this distro isn't to your liking (i bet it will be but...) then try another one
[06:35] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: sounds familiar :-(
[06:36] <mapu> I am hoping to move multiple users from suse to ubuntu but the raid issue is a dealbreaker- are there any resources that might give me more information? So far my searches have turned up others with the same issue, but no solutions...
[06:36] <Jack_Sparrow> unknown_one: Something is odd about that then,
[06:36] <sysdoc> unknown_one, >> http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper
[06:36] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg it makes me wanna cry
[06:36] <erUSUL> !raid
[06:36] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[06:36] <ravenous> has anyone has problems with totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin needing the older version of totem-gstreamer? mines says the new totem-gstreamer i have installed is too new?
[06:36] <ompaul> fuzzybunny, as I was starting to say until I got distracted, it does things slightly differently, if you give it a chance and don't fight it, do things the way they are written on help.ubuntu.com or the wiki you will avoid a lot of problems
[06:36] <erUSUL> !raid > mapu
[06:36] <NthDegree> there's so many to choose from and they all have up sides and down sides
[06:36] <hadar> Jack_Sparrow: appearntly it was all written in the site! including exactly where the exe is ...
[06:36] <fuzzybunny> NthDegree, I've tinkered w/Debian before and have deployed a few IPCop solutions as well
[06:36] <abhinay> iam going to reinstall my ubuntu ...
[06:37] <glen_> anybody got flac playback working on amarok with the xine engine?
[06:37] <fuzzybunny> ompaul, I'm going to give it a fair chance
[06:37] <Jack_Sparrow> hadar: That isnt a Ubuntu issue...
[06:37] <ToHellWithGA> i need help figuring out how to print to my network printer from gnome.  its local IP is 192.168.1.100 and its port is set to 35.  it's a Konica/Minolta QMS Magicolor 3100 printer and the printer setup for gnome asks for a "host" and "queue"
[06:37] <ompaul> fuzzybunny, I strongly suggest doing things "exactly" the ubuntu way - leave the idea of root behind and it will all be good rather fast
[06:38] <Jack_Sparrow> I will be lurking while I work on the wifes lappy, yell if you really need something
[06:38] <Ribs> ToHellWithGA: The host is 192.168.1.100
[06:38] <Ribs> ToHellWithGA: The queue... I don't know
[06:38] <NthDegree> ompaul, you mean the OS X way (they used sudo 1st) :p
[06:38] <erUSUL> ToHellWithGA: how it is shared? via windows (smb, samba)? ipp?
[06:38] <fuzzybunny> sweet
[06:38] <ToHellWithGA> Ribs: do i need to include the port on the host?
[06:38] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: just let me think a bit, why friggin' grub won't take the disk as a block device
[06:38] <ompaul> NthDegree, sudo was invented in 1981 :)
[06:38] <ToHellWithGA> erUSUL: it supports CUPS and LPD according to the documentation
[06:38] <fuzzybunny> so just stay in the GUI and be happy right?
[06:38] <glen_> anybody got flac playback working on amarok with the xine engine? anybody?
[06:38] <Ribs> ToHellWithGA: Go for it, if it fails, just do it again :)
[06:38] <ToHellWithGA> using its two-line LCD i ensured all of the protocols were on
[06:39] <ompaul> fuzzybunny, or server - just stay happy :)
[06:39] <fuzzybunny> kk :)
[06:39] <NthDegree> fuzzybunny, ubuntu has a lot of textual bits to do too :) but the support here should help if you get stuck
[06:39] <zool2005> hi all, I'm trying to use the switch user feature but every time I choose another user I return to a locked screen of the original user. Can anyone help?
[06:39] <toxicfume> hi all
[06:39] <ToHellWithGA> Ribs: the issue i'm having is similar to a bad driver in windows.  when using LPD it does one character (a black face with a white smile) per page when printing a test page.
[06:39] <Jimmey> I get this when the installed for Intel's 855GM drivers tried to compile something called agpgart, and DRM: http://pastebin.ca/123823 . Can anyone help?
[06:39] <toxicfume> where can i find the list of mirrors of the Repositories?
[06:39] <Jimmey> !repos
[06:39] <ToHellWithGA> Jimmey: there's an i810 driver built into x.org by default
[06:39] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:40] <fuzzybunny> ya NthDegree and ompaul you guys seem top knotch
[06:40] <ompaul> zool2005, you want to choose "log out" and then log in as the other user - otherwise both are logged in at the same time
[06:40] <Jimmey> ToHellWithGA, yeah, but DRI doesn't work
[06:40] <toxicfume> !easysource
[06:40] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:40] <NthDegree> heh, hardly ^.^
[06:40] <ompaul> fuzzybunny, we are mere crumbs at the table
[06:40] <zool2005> ompaul, that's what I want to do
[06:40] <ravenous> has anyone has problems with totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin needing the older version of totem-gstreamer? mines says the new totem-gstreamer i have installed is too new?
[06:40] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: Ahhh. got it... we nedd to edit the menu.lst first
[06:40] <ompaul> zool2005, so don't choose switch user choose "log out"
[06:40] <mapu> good raid info- but what I am using (and worked and installed perfectly in suse) is software raid  in linux (mdadm)- not sata onboard raid.
[06:40] <ToHellWithGA> Jimmey: then it might not work for that chipset/video card :(  it works for my 915G chipset but i've heard of trouble with the 845/855s and DRI
[06:40] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg k
[06:41] <zool2005> ompaul, I want both users to be logged in simultaneously
[06:41] <ompaul> ahh
[06:41] <andersja> toxicfume: try www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:41] <Jimmey> ToHellWithGA, It works on Windows, fine - Do you mean it won't work on Linux?
[06:41] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: so 'exit'... to get out of 'chroot'
[06:41] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg yeah because windows is still present on the list
[06:41] <devz0r> how do i set up a program to ALWAYS start as being "on top"
[06:41] <erUSUL> mapu: afaik md is the low level mechanism of lvm.
[06:41] <Stickittotheman> i was just wondering, does CSS/HL2 work in DX9 in xubuntu?
[06:41] <ToHellWithGA> Jimmey: i think that's what i mean.  somebody from #ubuntu-offtopic said he had issues with the 845 yesterday,  perhaps he's in there now.
[06:42] <mapu> could be- but it is also raid
[06:42] <mapu> in /etc/mdadm/conf
[06:42] <Jimmey> Thanks ToHellWithGA
[06:42] <mapu> with devices /dev/mdX
[06:42] <ompaul> zool2005, so log in and communte between sessions Ctrl Alt F7 for the first and Ctrl Alt F8 for the second
[06:42] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg ok
[06:42] <moi> Jack_Sparrow: where will this command save the image file to? "dd if=/dev/hda1 of=mywindowspartition.image"
[06:42] <hadar> Jack_Sparrow: it is: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[06:42] <birdfood> where is the best place to read how to configure ubuntu to allow me to use the netgear WG111T wireless adapter (a clean install of ubuntu and im new to linux)
[06:42] <Ademan> is there a library in multiverse for rar files?
[06:42] <Ademan> !rar > Ademan
[06:42] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: so your prompt now shows, that yu're in /mnt, right?
[06:42] <zool2005> ompaul, I'll have a go
[06:43] <George> how do I regenerate the kernel initrd?
[06:43] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah
[06:43] <ompaul> fuzzybunny, hang about and you will see really good talent :-)
[06:43] <devz0r> how would i set it up so a program will always have the "on top" option marked even if i close it and open it back up again
[06:43] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: gedit /mnt/boot/grub/mneu.lst
[06:43] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: gedit /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:43] <Stickittotheman> i was just wondering, does CSS/HL2 work in DX9 in xubuntu?
[06:43] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: bets would be to paste this to pastebin as well
[06:43] <mapu> erUSUL - the issue is- I am trying to use the exact same partitions, fileystems and raid devices which worked flawlessly in both suse and mandriva.
[06:44] <Stickittotheman> does anyone know?
[06:44] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg ok
[06:44] <ompaul> Stickittotheman, you asked a question I guess it is game releated - just a guess
[06:44] <mapu> and the kubuntu alt cd sees, and allows an installation to go successfully
[06:44] <|BLaDE|> wasup folks
[06:44] <Stickittotheman> ompaul: yes
[06:44] <zool2005> ompaul, when I do Ctrl Alt F8 I just get a black screen
[06:44] <mapu> the reboot is where everything fails- so something in either grub, or how the ubuntu installer configures grub, is incorrect
[06:44] <|BLaDE|> ...im lookin for codecs for linux ..any ideas?
[06:45] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: show it to me on pastebin
[06:45] <andersja> anyone with nxserver experience? I get some non-trivial error messages... :-(
[06:45] <ompaul> zool2005, after you have requested to switch user - just sit there until the login screen comes up it will take a moment
[06:45] <Girish> l
[06:45] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20105
[06:45] <RedMonkey> moi: in what directory did you run the dd command?
[06:45] <ompaul> Stickittotheman, I am not sure but I tink you would need something called "cegeda" to run that
[06:45] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: k, wait a sec
[06:45] <zool2005> ompaul, using C A F8 you mean?
[06:45] <sysdoc> birdfood, see the forum there are a ton of posts regarding that adapter
[06:46] <RedMonkey> moi: if you ran it in your home directory, then it is in your home directory.
[06:46] <ompaul> zool2005, No, choose the exit button and then choose switch users - then move back and forth
[06:46] <ompaul> Stickittotheman, give me a min to research
[06:46] <moi> RedMonkey: thanks!
[06:46] <RedMonkey> moi: you're welcome
[06:46] <zool2005> ompaul, I get the login screen but when I choose another user I just return to a locked screen
[06:47] <ompaul> zool2005, that is to protect one user from the other :-/
[06:47] <Stickittotheman> ompaul: I know it works in DX7 and 8 for WINE
[06:48] <ompaul> zool2005, if it is just more destop space click on the little boxes on the bottom right hand cornrer there should be four of them
[06:48] <ompaul> Stickittotheman, then there is wine for Ubuntu
[06:48] <Stickittotheman> ompaul: yes there is
[06:48] <zool2005> ompaul, it's not a lack of space but I want to separate work from home
[06:49] <ravenous> man i dont get this i had to 'mark all upgrades', and it upgraded totem and totem-gstreamer, uninstalled totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin, and now it wont reinstall because it says totem-gstreamer is too new .. wth?
[06:49] <ompaul> Stickittotheman, I am agreeing withyou
[06:49] <zool2005> ompaul, I already have 6 virtual desktops
[06:49] <ToHellWithGA> i would like to upload something to my linux computer in Atlanta, GA using my linux computer in Columbia, MO.  How do I do that?  FTP would be a fairly easy thing but I've never done it.
[06:49] <ompaul> zool2005,  so have two usernames give one a green desktop and the other brown or something
[06:49] <ompaul> zool2005,  or one kde or something
[06:49] <monkster> ToHwGA: try gftp
[06:50] <ToHellWithGA> monkster: do i need to install that via ssh on my remote computer?
[06:50] <ompaul> zool2005, I really can't see what your issue is - seemless switching between the two is not really going to happen afik
[06:50] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: ok, replace the file with this one   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20115
[06:50] <andersja> ToHellWithGA: check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto
[06:50] <linuxd00d> hey guys
[06:50] <skeff> I want to upgrade to the latest ALSA driver for my soundcard. Will I need to get the sources and compile them as kernel modules manually? Or is there also some way to "debianize" the modules so that they will replace the existing alsa package in the apt tree?
[06:50] <ToHellWithGA> i have ssh setup.  will ssh itself allow file transfer?
[06:50] <monkster> maybe i missed something ... just saying that gftp a good front end to ftp
[06:51] <andersja> ToHellWithGA: yes: look up the scp command
[06:51] <zool2005> ompaul, what's bothering me is the fact that I *can't* do it when I should be able to keep two users logged in at once and switch between the two
[06:51] <easytiger> how can i refresh a stale nfs handle on an ubuntu nfs client?
[06:51] <Snake007uk> hey guys, how would i go about forwarding an X11 session via command line ssh
[06:51] <easytiger> ssh -X
[06:51] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg ok
[06:51] <glen_> Snake007uk, ssh -X
[06:51] <Snake007uk> do i need to set the DIAPLY variable
[06:52] <easytiger> ssh -X carries a display variable with it
[06:52] <Snake007uk> im still getting an error
[06:52] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: saved? Ok, then open /mnt/etc/fstab and show it on pastebin, plz
[06:52] <andersja> ToHellWithGA: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto#head-1aa0ea24fdf28c7516f58131897fa15691d8e58d
[06:52] <easytiger> did you xhost +?
[06:52] <Snake007uk> Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[06:52] <easytiger> yea.. xhost +
[06:52] <moi> RedMonkey: just need to figger out how to write that image to the sda2 drive now ;)
[06:52] <easytiger> or sudo xhost +
[06:52] <superman007> do I need the alternative cd if I want to install the boot loader on a cd?
[06:52] <ravenous> so no one's getting any gstreamer firefox plugin install errors from mismatched versions? i cant believe im the only one
[06:53] <ompaul> zool2005, sorry, your not reporting an error - lets look at it this way, user1 logs in they get a desktop some apps etc, you click on exit and user2 logs in, user1 is on ctrl+alt+f7 so you commute back there, when you want to get to user 2 then you  ctrl+alt+f8 you have to use each users password to help you move back and forth but that is it
[06:53] <andersja> easytiger: did you ever try nx?
[06:53] <ardchoille> !info rdesktop
[06:53] <ubotu> rdesktop: RDP client for Windows NT/2000 Terminal Server. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.4.1-1.1 (dapper), package size 98 kB, installed size 388 kB
 i did one time when i worked for a company who were considering it
[06:53] <ompaul> zool2005, what part of that is not happening for you - it takes a moment to switch back and forth
[06:53] <easytiger> eventually tried freenx
[06:53] <moi> RedMonkey: also, will the image end up being the same size as the partition its copying from, or as big as the data inside it?
[06:53] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20105
[06:54] <stefg> k
[06:54] <RedMonkey> moi: you mean how to copy it over? just use the cp command.
[06:54] <zool2005> ompaul, I can't log another user in without logging off completely (closing all open apps)
[06:54] <RedMonkey> moi: hmm, i don't know exactly.. for more information read the manpage of dd
[06:54] <andersja> easytiger; care to take a look at my errormessages? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204976&page=4
[06:54] <ompaul> zool2005, what version are you running
[06:55] <zool2005> Dapper
[06:55] <moi> RedMonkey: the problem am having is this: Bought a sata drive, it makes noises, got another one, trying to copy partitons to the replacment...
 thats very odd... never seen it fdo that
[06:56] <ToHellWithGA> andersja: thanks for those links.  i'm a bit rushed so i decided to just run apache locally until i have time to read that stuff.  peace
[06:56] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: Ok, now's the time to deal with your CD/DVD. Where is it on the IDE-Bus? Slave on which Adapter?
[06:56] <moi> RedMonkey, Gparted wont let me copy the pri partition, saying your only allowed 1....
[06:56] <andersja> easytiger: I'm wondering if I'm missing something obvious
[06:56] <easytiger> as always <andersja> :p
[06:56] <Arigato> hello, what is the best way to install Limewire on a Ubuntu 6.06 system?
[06:56] <moi> RedMonkey: partitionmagic thinks the drive is "bad"
[06:56] <easytiger> did you try deleting all config and starting from scratch?
[06:57] <ompaul> zool2005, okay that does not make sense - phone brb
[06:57] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg ok i put the cd drive and the dvd drive on the secondary channel i think they are both cable select
[06:57] <zool2005> ompaul, brb?
[06:57] <andersja> easytiger - might want to do that; yeah
[06:57] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: IT should show up in your root
[06:57] <TheGateKeeper> !limewire
[06:57] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[06:57] <moi> RedMonkey: iyo, whats the best way to copy the first partition from sda1 to sda2?
[06:57] <TheGateKeeper> !frostwire
[06:57] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[06:57] <ompaul> zool2005, be right back
[06:57] <zool2005> ompaul, the "new login" ap doesn't work either
 i did have a lot of problems getting the config just right.. is a little bit black art
[06:58] <andersja> ok thanks for your advice - I'll drop off and try tonight
[06:58] <HeXiOn> hello
[06:58] <RedMonkey> moi: good question. unfortunately i don't know. better ask someone else in here. sorry.
[06:58] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: if they are CS, then you'll have to figure out yourself who's who...
[06:58] <TheGateKeeper> Arigato: read the ubotu responces above ^^^
[06:58] <haakonn> i have two clients sharing files via samba, set up with nautilus and konqueror. but nautilus/konqueror can't find any workgroup, so we can't browse the shares. with konqueror i can go to smb://ipaddress directly, but that does not work at all in konqueror. what am i missing?
[06:58] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg ok
[06:59] <knowwho> is there any app for debian that can burn .cue/.bin files?
[06:59] <HeXiOn> I've configured LIRC, and works well. But when I restart ubuntu it doesn't work. Anyone knows what do I have to do?
[06:59] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg should i jumper the dvd drive as master and cd as slave
[06:59] <Arigato> TheGateKeeper: thanks alot
[06:59] <moi> RedMonkey: thx anyway
 : k3b
[06:59] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: Sorry for the lag, trying to get some work done   test like this with file on your desktop dd if=/home/jack/Desktop/GoogleEarthLinux.bin of=mywindowspartition.image
[06:59] <TheGateKeeper> Arigato: yw :-)
[06:59] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: that would make things easier
[06:59] <DJDoubledeks> hi, i have a problem with my nvidia driver
[06:59] <DJDoubledeks> can anyone help?
[07:00] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg there must have been a reason why i had to jumper them as cs before
[07:00] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg im trying to remember
 dont ask to ask.. just ask :p
[07:00] <DJDoubledeks> lol
[07:00] <DJDoubledeks> ok :P
[07:00] <DJDoubledeks> can you help me with my problem?
[07:00] <DJDoubledeks> hehe
[07:00] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: then leave it as is, and see what happens :_)
[07:00] <ravenous> man i dont get this i had to 'mark all upgrades', and it upgraded totem and totem-gstreamer, uninstalled totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin, and now it wont reinstall because it says totem-gstreamer is too new .. wth?
[07:00] <easytiger> well i had nvidia problems too
[07:00] <easytiger> but i dunno what yours are
[07:00] <DJDoubledeks> it was working fine till i rebooted
[07:01] <moi> Jack_Sparrow: dd is running now, copying the windows partition... will it be the full size of the partition or just the size of the data?
[07:01] <DJDoubledeks> then couldnt find the module :/
[07:01] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: data
[07:01] <easytiger> most odd.. did you try removing them and reinstalling them via apt-get
[07:01] <moi> Jack_Sparrow: phew!
[07:01] <DJDoubledeks> yep
[07:01] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg ok what do i do about the fstab file i put on pastebin then
[07:01] <Paddy_EIRE> nothin
[07:01] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: I'm about to edit it... give me a secaond :-)
[07:02] <DJDoubledeks> removed nvidia-xgl and nvidia-kernel-common and reinstalled again
[07:02] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg oh sorry
[07:02] <zool2005> does anyone know where the icons for the Human theme are stored on Dapper?
[07:02] <jordanau> okay i think easy ubuntu worked well...
[07:02] <knowwho> is there any app for debian that can burn .cue/.bin files?
[07:02] <moi> Jack_Sparrow: then how to write that image to sda2?
[07:02] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: PM me if needed, I am trying to setup a lappy for the wife...
 i had problems too.. i endd up installing removing reinstalling randomly ltill it all worked
[07:02] <DJDoubledeks> lol
[07:03] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: how much RAM does the box have?
[07:03] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg fat_files can go it died with windows
[07:03] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: You could have done that in one line and no image file
[07:03] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: i thought that
[07:03] <Paddy_EIRE> 512 although ubuntu says 503
[07:03] <neutrinomass> Is there an easy way to turn on my laptop's fan on demand ?
[07:03] <Arigato> E: Package sun-j2re1.5 has no installation candidate?
[07:03] <Lynoure> knowwho: burn? Most cd/dcd burning software does not care what kind of fiels you are burning onto the media...
[07:03] <toxicfume> On this page: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic, you have an option to select "Packages" and "Sources". What are the "Sources"? Are they source codes or what?
[07:04] <vedder> Hi! :D
[07:04] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: that's the kernel which takes 9 MB, so they're not counted
[07:04] <hadar> !install
[07:04] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[07:04] <jamesM> what is Easy Ubuntu?
[07:04] <Arigato> im trying to install J2SE Runtime Environment (JRE) with Plug-in for Mozilla Firefox but i get the next error: E: Package sun-j2re1.5 has no installation candidate
[07:04] <easytiger> no one know how to deal with a stale NFS handle?
[07:04] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg ahh someone told me that it was faulty ram
[07:04] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg so its not
[07:04] <Paddy_EIRE> cool
[07:04] <Snake007uk> still no luck forwarding Xsession.... if i do env | grep DISPLAY there is no variable ?
[07:04] <zool2005> toxicfume, yes
[07:05] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: don't believe all the BS told on IRC :-)
[07:05] <TheGateKeeper> Arigato: you need to have multiverse enabled, do you use Firefox?
[07:05] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[07:05] <knowwho> is there any app for debian that can burn .cue/.bin files?
[07:05] <vedder> I want to prevent 3 applet to start, how can i do that? i delrete from the panel what they are there i see they running in the system monitor every time i restart ubuntu
[07:05] <Arigato> TheGateKeeper: i have, and yes
[07:05] <toxicfume> zool2005: okay, so if i dont do any development, i wouldn't need them right?
[07:05] <glen_> knowwho, k3b
[07:05] <mwe> knowwho: k3b I think
[07:05] <Paddy_EIRE> knowwho are they movies, if they are use sudo apt-get bchunk
[07:05] <finalbeta> Doe subuntu hava an alsa (dev) channel?
[07:06] <knowwho> glen_: i tried k3b, it doesn't support .bin/.cue
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> I could sware i used k3b once for .bin/cue
[07:06] <vedder> gnome baker?
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> there is also a .bin/cud to iso converter program out
[07:06] <graft> i find it hard to believe k3b doesn't support bin/cue
[07:06] <easytiger> knowwho: it does
[07:06] <hadar> Jack_Sparrow: i tried to install from usb according to the manual url i showed you. i recivied this msg:  kernel: cannot find /casper/vmlinuz
[07:06] <ompaul> finalbeta, chat with crimsun when he shows up
[07:06] <knowwho> hmm
[07:06] <easytiger> he's wrong
[07:06] <knowwho> really
[07:06] <glen_> knowwho, try bin2iso then although i'm pretty sure k3b burns bin/cue
[07:06] <Arigato> TheGateKeeper: do you have anything else i can try?
[07:06] <DJDoubledeks> Cant u just change the file name from .bin to .iso
[07:07] <finalbeta> ompaul, ok, thnx
[07:07] <DJDoubledeks> im sure ive done that before
[07:07] <knowwho> i had it open and didn't see anything about .bin/.cue
[07:07] <glen_> knowwho, did you try to burn image?
[07:07] <zool2005> toxicfume, sources can be used for development purposes or you can 'build' the package for your distribution using the appropriate commands. Unless you are trying to installl some obscure software there is little chance you will need to use it in Ubuntu as many of the most common aps can be installed directly
[07:07] <TheGateKeeper> Arigato: Firefox comes with a repo search engine, this may come in handy too: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories
[07:07] <easytiger> there not quite the same format.. but a converter is easy to come by
[07:07] <vedder> how can i prevent the autostart of a applet?
[07:07] <hadar> has any1 tried installing from usb stick ?
[07:07] <knowwho> glen_: hold on, im about to try it again
[07:07] <mwe> knowwho: burn image and choose the .cue file IIRC
[07:07] <knowwho> what is IIRC/
[07:08] <graft> hey i have a question for you folks: why would some pages in firefox have really crappy font rendering (cyan/magenta shadows visible) while some are nice and crisp? I have an LCD monitor and I have full sub-pixel hinting enabled
[07:08] <graft> IIRC = if i recall correctly
[07:08] <graft> vedder: what applet?
[07:08] <hadar> in the syslinuxc.cfg file there is this line: install Ubuntu  kernel casper/vmlinuz
[07:08] <DJDoubledeks> right bbs im gonna try playing out installing and uninstalling nvidia lol - wish me luck! o/
[07:09] <vedder> trash, clock and scrensaver
[07:09] <hadar> and this dir and file are in the usb stick root directory
[07:09] <TheGateKeeper> Arigato: and this too: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_J2SE_Runtime_Environment_.28JRE.29_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[07:09] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: here we go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20119
[07:09] <vedder> i deleted from the panel but i can see all 3 running every time i restart ubuntu
[07:09] <hadar> any1 ?
[07:09] <vedder> i don't want to loose my litle ram in that
[07:09] <graft> vedder: they're still in the panel every time you start up?
[07:09] <hadar> please ..
[07:09] <superman007> if I installed ubuntu without a bootloader and without changing the mbr.. could I still boot to it with a boot cd?
[07:10] <vedder> nop..
[07:10] <vedder> i deleted from the panel thinking that they wont start the next time,,but they are runing..i see that un the system monitor..
[07:11] <|BLaDE|> codecs for ubuntu
[07:11] <|BLaDE|> ?
[07:11] <majorMatarrese> vedder, how much RAM do you have?
[07:11] <graft> vedder: um, what do you see in system monitor?
[07:11] <|BLaDE|> i cant find anything on repository
[07:11] <vedder> 256
[07:11] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg ok
[07:11] <graft> ubotu tell |BLaDE| about w32codecs
[07:11] <TheGateKeeper> !codecs
[07:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:11] <moi> Jack_Sparrow: pmed you, you must be busy, np
[07:12] <vedder> tashapplet
[07:12] <knowwho> glen_: yup it does, but when i select my .cue file, it says "Seems not to be usable"
[07:12] <graft> get more ram...
[07:12] <vedder> screensavre applet...
[07:12] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: you need a mountpoint for the second CD, so 'mkdir /mnt/media/cdrom1'
[07:12] <vedder> i have the screen saver disable...
[07:12] <graft> why is 256 standard for so many vendors? it's obviously inadequate these days
[07:12] <marshall__> hey guys
[07:12] <majorMatarrese> vedder, it sounds like you just should buy more, like a gig
[07:12] <superman007> if I deleted the bootloader on accident.. could I boot to my existing ubuntu partition from the install cd?
[07:12] <marshall__> does anybody know how to add a fill to a path in gimp?
[07:12] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg ok
[07:12] <ompaul> !grub
[07:12] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:12] <vedder> yes i know
[07:13] <graft> marshall__: convert the path to a selection
[07:13] <moi> !the joys of hor-moans
[07:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about the joys of hor-moans - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:13] <finalbeta> Does the standard ubuntu kernel use hyperthreading when it's available?
[07:13] <steve_Laptop> I got a problem with 6.06 print server not letting me log in from http://192.168.12.214:631/ to set it up Y
[07:13] <facugaich> any good video editing programs?
[07:13] <ompaul> superman007, ^^ see ubotu
[07:13] <kodai> Hey, after I installed ubuntu 6.06 server on my computer, it goes to boot, and just restarts and is stuck in one big loop. any suggestions?
[07:13] <TheGateKeeper> |BLaDE|: I use amaroK xine engine & libxine-extracodecs, have also installed w32codecs for good measure
[07:13] <vedder> but there is no way i can prevent the autostart of this applets?
[07:13] <marshall__> graft:  but then do i lose its vectorness?
[07:13] <majorMatarrese> vedder, I think ubuntu is one of the more RAM eating distros
[07:13] <stefg> Ok, all saved and done? Then we chroot back in the installed system and try to install grub again to mbr
[07:13] <graft> marshall__: no, i don't think you do, i think it just makes a selection based on the path - the path will still be there
[07:13] <TheGateKeeper> |BLaDE|: should also tell you I use KDE not gnome :-)
[07:13] <majorMatarrese> vedder: you could try Xubuntu which gets rid of most of what's in the system tray
[07:13] <marshall__> majorMatarrese:  vedder: yeah i heard archlinux uses way less
[07:13] <Arigato> TheGateKeeper: thanks ill try them both
[07:13] <|BLaDE|> ah i see
[07:13] <easytiger> whats that command to view who has a lock on what files?
[07:14] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: cd /mnt , chroot . (you know the drill now)
[07:14] <kodai> ^0^
[07:14] <marshall__> graft:  thanks man
[07:14] <abhinay> anybody have screencasts of Ubuntu Dapper + xgl  ?
[07:14] <steve_Laptop> I got a problem with 6.06 cups 1.2.2 print server not letting me log in from http://192.168.12.214:631/ to set it up Y
[07:14] <vedder> yes i know that...but i just want to prevent that applet, wich i dont use to autostart...
[07:14] <TheGateKeeper> Arigato: yw :-)
[07:14] <kodai> anyone >.<?
[07:15] <marshall__> kodai:  what
[07:15] <vedder> i can't believe...i can't find how to do that...
[07:15] <vedder> :(
[07:15] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg sry what do i do after the chroot . grub-install
[07:15] <kodai> Hey, after I installed ubuntu 6.06 server on my computer, it goes to boot, and just restarts and is stuck in one big loop. any suggestions?
[07:15] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: yup
[07:16] <moi> anyone: whats the term' command to delete a locked file created by a sudo program?
[07:16] <kodai> I've tried installing both to the hardrive, and installing light.. both do the same things
[07:16] <facugaich> Can someone recommend me a video editing program for Ubuntu?
[07:16] <majorMatarrese> moi, I think it
[07:16] <Arigato> TheGateKeeper: did you write both pages?
[07:16] <Paddy_EIRE> root@ubuntu:/# grub-install install_device not specified.
[07:16] <moi> !delete
[07:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about delete - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:16] <majorMatarrese> moi, I think it is sudo rmdir or something
[07:16] <ag0ny> anyone knows how i can increase the font in the options menu of xmms?
[07:17] <mapu> I fixed the raid issue- my 1st partiton was swap- second  partition was my /boot partition (md0). grub was using as a the device hd(0,0). Ichanged it to hd(0,1) so that it tried from the md0 - and vioila0 successful boot
[07:17] <Shinzetsu> I get an error when trying to run one of my games: http://www.pastecode.com/2833
[07:17] <mapu> booted live cd, mounted the appropriate partitiom, modified the menu.lst in /boot/grub- and all was good
[07:17] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg which install path should be specified after grub-install /dev/hdd
[07:17] <abhinay> facugaich, Avidemux
[07:17] <TheGateKeeper> Arigato: no the one starts za101 has black background I did, it it basically a corrected version that appears on the other page
[07:18] <ompaul> zool2005, what window manager are you using?
[07:18] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: No , 'grub-install dev/hdy' of course
[07:18] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: No , 'grub-install dev/hda' of course
[07:18] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[07:19] <zoidberg> hey guys
[07:19] <Arigato> TheGateKeeper: i tried to isntall java but i got the following erros could you take a look at them? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20121
[07:19] <zoidberg> i'm upgrading to dapper right now
[07:19] <moi> that deletes a directory, in this case its my desktop, how to delete a locked file?
[07:19] <uwo> hi all! can you enable "shading" windows like in KDE?
[07:19] <zoidberg> just have one more question
[07:19] <kodai> >.<
[07:19] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg root@ubuntu:/# grub-install dev/hda   Format of install_device not recognized.  (im gonna cry)
[07:19] <kodai> so no one has any idea :(
[07:19] <zoidberg> will i be able to get rid of the old badger fiels to save some space?
[07:19] <moi> Q: howto delete a locked file made by a sudo program?
[07:19] <facugaich> abhinay: ty
[07:19] <mopflite> uwo: yes, in dapper the default to "shade" a window is to double left click on the title bar
[07:19] <kodai> --->After I installed ubuntu 6.06 server on my computer, it goes to boot, and just restarts and is stuck in one big loop. any suggestions?
[07:20] <ompaul> !kubuntu
[07:20] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment. For more info see http://kubuntu.org ; to install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. To downgrade your version of kubuntu to an older version see: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=609.0
[07:20] <Tonren> Hey guys, how do I get Gaim to stop running whenever I boot up?  It's not in my bootup programs list.
[07:20] <zoidberg> will i be able to get rid of the old badger fiels to save some space?
[07:20] <erUSUL> kodai: boot in recovery mode??
[07:20] <mopflite> s/dapper/gnome in fact
[07:20] <zoidberg> ?
[07:20] <ompaul> uwo, ask in #kubuntu
[07:20] <mopflite> !fetchmail
[07:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about fetchmail - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:20] <uwo> mopflite: on double left click i get maximise...
[07:20] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: i just discovered a typo in the fstab i did for you. f you use the tmpfs line for /tmp rmove the space between 'defaults' and size=384M. It's got to read 'defaults,size=384M'... Comming to the error, this is indeed progress.. it knows there's a disk now
[07:20] <ompaul> zoidberg, the upgrade will look after that
[07:21] <mopflite> uwo: are you using gnome?
[07:21] <zoidberg> cool
[07:21] <kodai> erUSUL: does the same thing
[07:21] <visham> hi folks
[07:21] <vedder> nobody knowa how to prevent a applet to autostart?
[07:21] <Paddy_EIRE> cool
[07:21] <zoidberg> what is FLUXBOX all about....?
[07:21] <uwo> mopflite: yes
[07:21] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: so type 'grub' to get a grub prompt again
[07:21] <visham> the mp3blaster screen is distorted? how to solve the prob??
[07:21] <Arigato> TheGateKeeper: i tried to isntall java but i got the following erros could you take a look at them? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20121
[07:21] <majorMatarrese> vedder, I assume you mean java?
[07:21] <erUSUL> kodai: boot with a livecd and try to read the logs for any clue on what is going on...
[07:21] <TheGateKeeper> Arigato: not sure why you should get that, the repos & commands I gave you where what I used when I set my own pc up, smells like you have something broken, have you synaptic installed/
[07:21] <ahmed> how to know the kernel my system is using
[07:22] <vedder> no java
[07:22] <erUSUL> ahmed: uname -a
[07:22] <zoidberg> what is FLUXBOX all about....?
[07:22] <vedder> just a applet like the cloick applet or the trash applet
[07:22] <ahmed> thks
[07:22] <mopflite> uwo: system > preferences > windows > titlebar action to change that
[07:22] <majorMatarrese> vedder: Applet meaning like a startup item in windows or OS X?
[07:22] <erUSUL> zoidberg: is a window manager
[07:22] <kodai> oky...
[07:22] <uwo> mopflite: tnx :)
[07:22] <kodai> where are the logs stored once i boot into live cd?
[07:22] <zoidberg> is it lighter than GNOME...KDE...XFCE?
[07:22] <Arigato> TheGateKeeper: yes
[07:22] <knowwho> !fluxbox
[07:22] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox
[07:22] <vedder> yes
[07:22] <erUSUL> kodai: /var/log/
[07:22] <visham> the mp3blaster screen is distorted? how to solve the prob??
[07:22] <kodai> kk
[07:22] <mopflite> zoidberg: fluxbox is a lightweight window manager, derived from blackbox - very nice actually
[07:23] <majorMatarrese> zoidberg, Xfce is the lightest I've seen
[07:23] <TheGateKeeper> Arigato: fire it up, see if it says you have any broken packages?
[07:23] <mopflite> I prefer blackbox to fluxbox though personally - but I now prefer the latest gnome to both
[07:23] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: once yo've got a grub-prompt: find /boot/grub/stage1
[07:23] <ompaul> majorMatarrese, flux is really light in fact xfce is a super heavyweight by comparison
[07:23] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg root@ubuntu:/# gedit /mnt/etc/fstab  cannot open display: (null)
[07:23] <visham> the mp3blaster screen is distorted? how to solve the prob??
[07:23] <zoidberg> mopflite is fluxbox ligther than GNOME or XFCE?
[07:23] <majorMatarrese> ompaul, now we see why I need more linux-ing experience
[07:24] <mopflite> zoidberg: much lighter than both, yes
[07:24] <Arigato> TheGateKeeper: awsome i diddnt knew it could do that.. but whats a broken filter?
[07:24] <majorMatarrese> wait, is flux what Damn Small Linux uses?
[07:24] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: ahh... you're chrooted right now, so this has to be done after, Don't mind it's not that important
[07:25] <prentice> I have a working Edubuntu deployment at a private elementary school, but need help tweaking one thing...The students all log in with one user, student. This works fine for all applications except OpenOffice, which always launches new windows on the display of the first student to use OpenOffice. Anyone know how to force OpenOffice to open on the current display, like all other applications?
[07:25] <ompaul> majorMatarrese, no, just use one get used to it, and then look around and sample come back and see what you prefer, to be honest if you work on the desktop you get multiple versions and get to make it all happy
[07:25] <zoidberg> mopflite, so after i am done updating to dapper...i can just install fluxbox and get rid of GNOME all together to save more space?
[07:25] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg ok
[07:25] <majorMatarrese> haha, sounds good
[07:26] <ompaul> majorMatarrese, the last part of that was unclear, if you working use one desktop, and get to make it all happy by learning it in dept
[07:26] <ompaul> h
[07:26] <mopflite> zoidberg: yes, or you could install the server version of ubuntu and then apt-get install fluxbox afterwards
[07:26] <visham> wats fluxbox/mopflite are these replacement for xfce?
[07:26] <TheGateKeeper> Arigato: not sure does it show up in the list box when you press the status button?
[07:26] <majorMatarrese> ahhh, I see
[07:26] <shriphani> guys could anyone paste me their source.list file cuz source-o-matic doesnt seem to generate the multiverse repository
[07:26] <mopflite> visham: fluxbox, and its forerunner blackbox, are just more window managers - there are many available for installation on an ubuntu system
[07:26] <ompaul> majorMatarrese, and applications for one desktop on ubuntu will work on others, the trick is to find the ones you actually want
[07:27] <Arigato> when i open synaptic i get a msg that i have one broken package but than i dont see it i just see the "all packages" lsit
[07:27] <mopflite> another nice one is windowmaker imho
[07:27] <Arigato> s/lsit/list/
[07:27] <majorMatarrese> ompaul, yes I've noticed that, I have a bunch of KDE apps running over here
[07:27] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: got the grub prompt?
[07:27] <Paddy_EIRE> yep
[07:27] <Jimmey> Where can I get my hands on the agpgart module?
[07:28] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: find /boot/grub/stage1
[07:28] <Arigato> TheGateKeeper: when i open synaptic i get a msg that i have one broken package but than i dont see it i just see the "all packages" lsit
[07:28] <Arigato> TheGateKeeper: s/lsit/list/
[07:28] <ompaul> majorMatarrese, rule 7 in the good linux book, don't think about using the latest, run the most stable, Ubuntu works by fixing that which is shown to be faulty, repairing older versions allows the "stability" to grow, using new stuff all the time you might as well be on some branded closed source o/s
[07:28] <Jimmey> Arigato, try sudo apt-get -f install
[07:28] <shriphani>  guys could anyone paste me their source.list file cuz source-o-matic doesnt seem to generate the multiverse repository
[07:28] <anil> is it possible to install kernel 2.6.17 right now?
[07:28] <visham> what are kernal modules?
[07:28] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg Error 15: File not found
[07:28] <TheGateKeeper> Arigato: you should have broken packages appear in the list when you press the status button, if you don't then may be that is what it means by broken filter
[07:29] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: F*CK!"
[07:29] <Paddy_EIRE> i know
[07:29] <Arigato> TheGateKeeper: where can i find the status button?
[07:29] <majorMatarrese> ompaul that's why I use ubuntu instead of slax
[07:29] <visham> my mp3blaster screen is distorted how do i correct it??
[07:29] <steve_Laptop> I got a problem with 6.06 print server not letting me log in from http://192.168.12.214:631/ to set it up Y
[07:29] <Jimmey> <3 mp3blaster
[07:29] <yoni> Where from can I download video & audio codecs for dark?
[07:29] <ompaul> shriphani, ask it to, and if it does not stick the word multiverse at the foot of the lines with universe in them
[07:30] <Seveas> !codecs > yoni
[07:30] <rsk> yoni: what is dark?
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> steve_Laptop,  the cups web interface is disabled by default. You can access it - but it wont let ya chantge anything.
[07:30] <TheGateKeeper> Arigato: bottom of lists top right button, lists appearing on the left hand side
[07:30] <yoni> I want to watch in Xine some Xvid videos
[07:30] <shriphani> ok
[07:30] <shriphani> thanks
[07:30] <majorMatarrese> vedder. I don't see a way to disable startup items
[07:30] <majorMatarrese> vedder: which is what I assume you
[07:30] <vedder> :(
[07:30] <steve_Laptop> Dr_Willis, thanks!
[07:30] <majorMatarrese> are talking about
[07:30] <ompaul> majorMatarrese, install "bum" the boot up manager
[07:30] <Arigato> TheGateKeeper: great i found it! fixing them now
[07:30] <vedder> i have to do it munually every time i start gnome
[07:30] <TheGateKeeper> Arigato: should be 4 butons, Sections, Status, Search, Custom
[07:31] <yoni> Drake, sorry :)
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> steve_Laptop,  http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2117/   has info.. on it.
[07:31] <majorMatarrese> ahhh, yes, vedder
[07:31] <MrGreen> anyone here use dual core?
[07:31] <vedder> thanks anyway! iw ill report this, they have to be a way...
[07:31] <majorMatarrese> vedder: !bum
[07:31] <ompaul> vedder, "bum" boot up manager
[07:31] <vedder> i have bum
[07:31] <MrGreen> anyone here use dual core?
[07:31] <Arigato> TheGateKeeper: will everything be fixed after that? or do i need to do the install for jave process again?
[07:32] <vedder> but the applet's are not there...
[07:32] <MrGreen> !dualcore
[07:32] <ubotu> I know nothing about dualcore - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:32] <majorMatarrese> vedder, you can use  update-rc.d
[07:32] <MrGreen> can ubuntu run on a dual core P4
[07:32] <TheGateKeeper> Arigato: probable need to install java again at a guess, see whether synaptic says it is installed or not
[07:32] <ompaul> majorMatarrese, where were you at 2:30 am last night I could not remember that for the life of me
[07:32] <majorMatarrese> no
[07:32] <vedder> major what is that?
[07:33] <vedder> sorry for my ignorance..
[07:33] <Arigato> TheGateKeeper: yeah good idee :D thanks so much for everything! updating will take a long time so im going to work on some other stuff :)
[07:33] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: ok, last attempt... still got the the grub prompt?
[07:33] <majorMatarrese> look at the bot explaination I sent you
[07:33] <Paddy_EIRE> yep
[07:33] <Arigato> TheGateKeeper: s/idee/idea/
[07:33] <majorMatarrese> or go to this at startup I would guess: /etc/rc.local
[07:33] <majorMatarrese> ompaul, why?
[07:33] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: then quit
[07:33] <Paddy_EIRE> ok
[07:34] <ompaul> I wanted to use it on a server and I could not remember its name
[07:34] <ompaul> sorted the issue the hard way ln -s
[07:34] <TheGateKeeper> Arigato: good luck, remember to look at the terminal if you use synaptic as java will ask a couple of questions one being the licence good luck :-)
[07:34] <harmental> is qtparted a GOOD option to play around with ntfs and ext2/3 partitions?
[07:34] <neuron> hello
[07:35] <ompaul> harmental, to use it on ext3 yes - 2 I don't think so and ntfs antying that can remove it is good
[07:35] <majorMatarrese> harmental, I prefer GParted
[07:35] <neuron> have any of you made teamspeak to work?
[07:35] <ahmed> where can I find this package ltmodem-2.6.15-26-386
[07:35] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: 'exit' again, to get out ouf the chroot
[07:35] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg done
[07:36] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: what device is the CD-ROM the live-CD is running from now?
[07:36] <gh0zt> dunno
[07:36] <Pntkl> private
[07:37] <neuron_> have any of you made teamspeak to work?
[07:37] <BobC2> Hi everyone, I just did a major update (140 files_ and now I've lost support for my Wacom Graphite tablet. any advice?
[07:37] <ahmed>  where can I find this package ltmodem-2.6.15-26-386
[07:37] <GTX> neuron_, works fine here
[07:37] <visham> how to corect my mp3blaster screen
[07:37] <neuron_> GTX: i dont hear any sound, and the icons dont change their colors when someone speaks
[07:37] <visham> pls help somebody
[07:38] <ahmed>  where can I find this package ltmodem-2.6.15-26-386
[07:38] <ahmed> pls
[07:38] <RogerBacon> hi, how to know what filesystem is use ?
[07:38] <majorMatarrese> ahmed, google is your friend
[07:38] <Hans7676> hello got a problem
[07:38] <GTX> neuron_, Your running some sound application already therefore it interfeers as it uses /dev/dsp and not a protocal like alsa
[07:38] <neuron_> ahmed:synaptic or google
[07:38] <ahmed> no result with google
[07:38] <majorMatarrese> ahmed, then synaptic
[07:38] <ahmed> ok
[07:38] <MrGreen> will ubuntu work on a dual core system?
[07:38] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg sorry man 1 sec whats a fast way of telling
[07:38] <dmb> yes
[07:38] <Hans7676> i cannot save a file using sudo gedit
[07:39] <Hans7676> in ubuntu
[07:39] <dmb> MrGreen: make sure after you install ubuntu, you switch to the smp kernel
[07:39] <neuron_> RogerBacon: try "df -h" in console, it will tell you the mount points of your partitions,the file sistems and even free spac e:D
[07:39] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: cat /etc/fstab
[07:39] <dmb> MrGreen: so you can take advantageof both cores
[07:39] <dmb> linux works great with dual cocre
[07:39] <majorMatarrese> ahmed, it's not in a special repo is it?
[07:39] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg i put the live cd in the dvd drive
[07:39] <MrGreen> dmb I cannot boot livecd
[07:39] <kodai> ok, i'm in /var/log on ubuntu live, what do i check to see what's screwing up my boot?
[07:39] <dmb> MrGreen: why, what does it say. what happens?
[07:40] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: a cat /etc/fstab will you, which device is now /
[07:40] <Hans7676> im succeeding in opening the editor with sudo gedit but the file is not saved
[07:40] <Paddy_EIRE> unionfs / unionfs rw 0 0
[07:40] <Paddy_EIRE> tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nosuid,nodev 0 0
[07:40] <Paddy_EIRE> /dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0
[07:40] <MrGreen> well knoppix for example shows up two logos then drops to reduced shell
[07:40] <majorMatarrese> MrGreen, knoppix shows two penguinos?
[07:40] <neuron_> GTX: cant i just make ts to use alsa?
[07:40] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: ok, i see.. forgot about union fs
[07:40] <MrGreen> yup
[07:41] <azureal> !vi
[07:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about vi - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:41] <dmb> MrGreen: i believe that would have something to do with the graphics card, not the cpu
[07:41] <MrGreen> ahhhh
[07:41] <azureal> there's no article about vi?!
[07:41] <dmb> MrGreen: what kind of graphics card do you have
[07:41] <azureal> bleh... vi is awesome
[07:41] <MrGreen> 7600
[07:41] <majorMatarrese> mrGreen: and then drops into a shell, hmmm, do you have onboard graphics?
[07:41] <Hans7676> why does it say cannot save /etc/x11/xorg.conf?
[07:41] <MrGreen> nvidia
[07:41] <dmb> is that ati?
[07:41] <dmb> oh
[07:41] <MrGreen> no
[07:41] <dmb> that should work fine with ubuntu then
[07:41] <GTX> neuron_, nope teamspeak sucks :p
[07:41] <BobC2> Can anyone explain why I lost my Wacom Tablet support after this last update?
[07:41] <dmb> i use 7900 fine
[07:41] <Hans7676> got a nm2200 graphic device
[07:41] <majorMatarrese> MrGreen, you have no integrated graphics on yuor motherboard?
[07:41] <azureal> Hans7676, only as root it will save if it's a directory in /
[07:41] <MrGreen> oooohhhh
[07:42] <neuron_> GTX: i know, oh well, i closed all applications that use sound, still, ts doesnt work
[07:42] <dmb> MrGreen: that must be a glitch in knoppix
[07:42] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: ok, then we could try a dpkg-reconfigure grub when chrooted... This will reinstall grub (if possible)
[07:42] <MrGreen> thats a good point
[07:42] <azureal> Hans7676, unless the file owner is you.
[07:42] <Hans7676> ok azureal how to pls?
[07:42] <dmb> MrGreen: did you try the ubuntu livecd?
[07:42] <MrGreen> maybe thats the problem
[07:42] <visham> how to corect my mp3blaster screen
[07:42] <Paddy_EIRE> ok
[07:42] <visham> there is distortion
[07:42] <GTX> neuro_, did you restart teamspeak?
[07:42] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: so we've got to cd /mnt , chroot . again :-)
[07:42] <azureal> Hans7676, before editing the file, open with sudo
[07:42] <majorMatarrese> MrGreen, burn a fresh CD and if that doesn't work remove your dedicated graphics processor
[07:42] <MrGreen> livecd ubuntu would not boot .... will try in recovery mode get more info
[07:42] <Hans7676> i have tried sudo gedit already
[07:43] <MrGreen> cool ....
[07:43] <azureal> really
[07:43] <dmb> MrGreen: what happens, does it just stop?
[07:43] <MrGreen> yeah
[07:43] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg  do i do dpkg-reconfigure grub
[07:43] <neuron_> GTX: yes
[07:43] <dmb> no errors or anything
[07:43] <Hans7676> sudo gedit /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[07:43] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: yes
[07:43] <MrGreen> but I need tofind out why .... maybe I should knock out onboard grafs
[07:43] <majorMatarrese> mrgreen, that sounds like a bug in knoppix
[07:43] <TheGateKeeper> MrGreen: did you try the 'self-test' on the ubuntu livecd?
[07:43] <GTX> neuron_, no idea then sorry, use skype ;x
[07:43] <MrGreen> cd is ok .... used it many times ;)
[07:43] <kodai> Hey, after I installed ubuntu 6.06 server on my computer, it goes to boot, and just restarts and is stuck in one big loop. any suggestions?
[07:43] <yoni> I tried to install Xvid from the source, & I got this error: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[07:44] <MrGreen> will check bios .... new build ;-)
[07:44] <yoni> How can I fix it?
[07:44] <neuron_> GTX, ill try getting the windows versio and get it working with wine, thanks :P
[07:44] <BobC2> Can anyone explain why I lost my Wacom Graphite Tablet support after this last update and how to fix it?
[07:44] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg root@ubuntu:/# dpkg-reconfigure grub
[07:44] <Paddy_EIRE> dpkg-reconfigure: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[07:44] <Paddy_EIRE> debconf: unable to initialize frontend: Kde
[07:44] <Paddy_EIRE> debconf: (DISPLAY problem?)
[07:44] <Paddy_EIRE> debconf: falling back to frontend: Dialog
[07:44] <majorMatarrese> yoni, then what is the point of a c compiler
[07:44] <steveire> Has anyone had shipit cds sent to germany and how long might it take?
[07:44] <kodai> Hey, after I installed ubuntu 6.06 server on my computer, it goes to boot, and just restarts and is stuck in one big loop. any suggestions?
[07:44] <azureal> Hans7676,  capital X, right
[07:44] <MrGreen> thanks guys
[07:44] <GTX> neuron_, wont work :p / already tried. Try it in vmware then it will
[07:44] <MrGreen> dmb thanks
[07:44] <ayeizajedi> hey everyone
[07:44] <yoni> What should I install else of gcc+?
[07:44] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: that's ok
[07:44] <MrGreen> majorMatarrese,  thanks
[07:44] <albacker> guys what was the new thing in 6.06 XGL or xglm or whatever it was called ? :S
[07:44] <azureal> Hans7676,  /etc/X11/xorg.conf   , not /etc/x11...
[07:45] <Hans7676> ok i think than could solve it gonna try
[07:45] <GTX> albacker, well its not XGl thats for sure :p
[07:45] <azureal> lol, you must specify the error
[07:45] <kodai> me?
[07:45] <albacker> GTX, what's it, it had to do with X or something like it.. man :S i should have logged that IRC convo.
[07:45] <azureal> oh, sry, was still talking to hans
[07:45] <kodai> oh :(
[07:45] <kodai> lol
[07:46] <azureal>  your problem is weird, kodai =P
[07:46] <kodai> yea. i know >.<
[07:46] <kodai> why me? who knows.. lol
[07:46] <azureal> you've been chosen
[07:46] <kodai> i am the one...
[07:46] <kodai> to not run linux..
[07:46] <kodai> lol
[07:47] <albacker> GTX, any idea of what i'll be searching ?
[07:47] <kodai> it is a kind of old computer. maybe i'll try another one :(
[07:47] <GTX> albacker, could be the new X version ;s
[07:47] <wthww__> kodai:i spent tha last week trying to get a system working with ubuntu and it just hated iit ;p
[07:47] <azureal> !server
[07:47] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments. The default install includes a server kernel and no GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current stable version is 6.06 LTS. For more info see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerFaq/
[07:47] <neuron_> GTX: VMware? wont i have to install windows on it?
[07:47] <azureal> wthww__, rofl, why are you here then =P
[07:48] <majorMatarrese> is there a repo with skype in it?
[07:48] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: !skype
[07:48] <wthww__> azureal: because im using it as my main is on my laptop
[07:48] <stefg> !skype
[07:48] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[07:48] <gnomefreak> i think Seveas' repo has it in it
[07:48] <azureal> well, if you set up your sources to include Universal, you should be seeing skype w/ apt-get
[07:48] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: sry, had a line prepared... so what's going on?
[07:48] <majorMatarrese> stefg, thank you
[07:49] <majorMatarrese> gnomefreak, what's his repo?
[07:49] <Paddy_EIRE> still here root@ubuntu:/#
[07:49] <gnomefreak> !easysource > majorMatarrese
[07:49] <acojlo> I have usplash_fifo file in "/". why?
[07:49] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: so you're still chrooted?
[07:49] <gnomefreak> azureal: it better not be in universe
[07:50] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg i think
[07:50] <majorMatarrese> gnomefreak, thanks
[07:50] <visham> mp3blaster scree is distorted sombody help
[07:50] <azureal> gnomefreak, what?!
[07:50] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg was trying to do dpkg-reconfigure and it didnt work remember
[07:50] <gnomefreak> skype better not be int he repos
[07:51] <acojlo> where to put question about ubuntu kernel and sata support?
[07:51] <azureal> gnomefreak,  what do you mean, "better"... perhaps it's better to live under a rock?
[07:51] <gnomefreak> azureal: if skype is in your repos than you are not using official repos
[07:51] <gnomefreak> azureal: if it was added to universe people would be in trouble
[07:51] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: I think it worked, it was just a warning about X not being available in chroot.. Let's try if 'grub-install' now yields results
[07:51] <sladen> acojlo: there's a bug report, it's because /dev/.usplash didn't exist and couldn't be chdir()ed to
[07:52] <azureal> gnomefreak, ok, i don't know the specifics of this particular program (which exact repo controls it)... i just assumed that he had only the defaults checked off, and didnt have Universal checked
[07:52] <azureal> ...and therefore didnt see it ;)
[07:53] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg grub-install /dev/hda or /mnt/dev/hda
[07:53] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: just 'grub-install'
[07:53] <Paddy_EIRE> doesnt do anything
[07:53] <Paddy_EIRE> same error
[07:53] <ardchoille> I am currently sitting at machineA, ssh'd into machineB using irssi in a screen session on machineA from machineB. Is there a way to run x on machineB and view it from machineA? I'd search the wiki, but I don't know what to search for.
[07:53] <Paddy_EIRE> root@ubuntu:/# grub-install
[07:53] <Paddy_EIRE> install_device not specified.
[07:54] <bit_doidao> hello! Any clue about recompiling php5 adding imap and imap_rfc822_parse_adrlist() support?
[07:54] <Shinzetsu> how can I manually unmount a drive?
[07:55] <Shinzetsu> umount right?
[07:55] <ardchoille> Shinzetsu: sudo umount /dev/device
[07:55] <venkatachar> Hi, I am want to complile some c++ program , can anyone tell me which packages have to be install to compile  c++ program?
[07:55] <Shinzetsu> thx
[07:55] <rsk> venkatachar: build-essential
[07:55] <venkatachar> Thanks
[07:56] <boolka> How do I change the color of my clock?
[07:57] <oxez> How would I change amarok's default icon? I'd like to have a different one than the defaults where I minize it to systray (on gnome.)
[07:58] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: Hmm... i think we're at the point where hands-on access would be necessary to solve that... So although it might be frustrating i'd finally recommend to make a backup of your existing install and start over using an 'Alternate' install CD. to make sure there's nothing wrong with the partition table of your harddrive i'd wipe it completely before reinstall . You could copy conf's...
[07:58] <stefg> ...from the backup if you made important tweaks to the system
[07:58] <oxez> I looked in ~/.kde/apps/amarok, /usr/share/icons
[07:58] <TheGateKeeper> ardchoille: this what you are looking for? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH
[07:58] <TheGateKeeper> !freenx
[07:58] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[07:58] <TheGateKeeper> ardchoille: ^^^^
[07:59] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg have u ever seen the like before
[07:59] <errykos> hello everyone. i have a problem. can anyone help me, please?
[07:59] <Seveas> !anyone > Error-
[07:59] <Seveas> !anyone > errykos
[07:59] <ardchoille> TheGateKeeper: I believe so, thanks :)
[07:59] <TheGateKeeper> ardchoille: yw :-)
[08:00] <azureal> !justask > errykos
[08:00] <errykos> ok, well... i have downloaded the latest ubuntu version, but, when the gui starts, it completly freezes, in the italian irc channel, they suggested me to try the alternate version, but it's the same.
[08:00] <teicah> !justask > teicah
[08:00] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: not really... but since I#m reasonably good at finding hardware problems i frequently see the problem on my own rig if i run in problems like that.
[08:00] <Elazar> Anyone know where they moved the screensaver configuration to in Dapper?
[08:00] <errykos> so, i started ubuntu in recovery mode, with the shell only
[08:01] <Seveas> Elazar, gconf
[08:01] <errykos> so, from root i wrote gdm, and it works.
[08:01] <boolka>  Hi, how do I change the font color on the toolbars on my desktop?
[08:01] <errykos> so, i understood that the problem is one of the services
[08:01] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg ill do a clean install tomorrow and ill fiqure out how to backup all progs that where installed in order for hastle free re-install
[08:01] <BobC2> Can anyone point me to where I can get my Wacom Tablet working again after the lastest Ubunto update?
[08:02] <errykos> does anyone know how to change the services priorities?
[08:02] <nono_> join ~ubuntu-fr
[08:02] <errykos> me?
[08:02] <Paddy_EIRE> stfg thanks for your time and patience ppl like that are few and far between thx mate :)
[08:03] <tobberoth> Oh shit :(. I moved some files from my ext3 partition to a FAT32 partition and went into windows.. for some reason it wouldn't find the FAT32 parition like it usually does
[08:03] <tobberoth> so I go back into linux.. and it's not there either
[08:03] <Elazar> Seveas: Installed the package, though there doesn't appear to be a CLI utility by that name nor any new entries in the Application or System menus. What do I do now?
[08:03] <tobberoth> wtf happened :(
[08:03] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: do you have an external drive or something to put the partition backup on? and make sure tio remove all partitions before reinstall, just to avoid possible trouble
[08:03] <ayeizajedi> how can you make sure that ubuntu is fully utilising both cores from a core duo ??
[08:03] <jordanau> !language > tobberoth
[08:04] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg i have an external 250 but lost the damn power cable so im shit out of luck :(
[08:04] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: out of luck... that's the way to put it
[08:05] <boolka>  Hi, how do I change the font color on the toolbars on my desktop?
[08:05] <tobberoth> linux nerds have gone pretty far if they think there's kids in this channel... anyway, anyone who knows how to fix the problem or at least to check up on the partition?
[08:05] <kodai> is there any way to install ther server stuff as an upgrade to the desktop version of ubuntu?
[08:05] <BobC2> I also lost my IRC client after the upgrade...can anyone see me now..PLEASE?
[08:06] <steveire> yes bob.
[08:06] <Lynoure> Yes
[08:06] <gregg__> tobberoth: fdisk -l won
[08:06] <gregg__> tobberoth: fdisk -l won't show it?
[08:06] <steveire> of course kodai.
[08:06] <thomaswfry> Hi everyone
[08:06] <BobC2> steveire> TY
[08:06] <steveire> !LAMP
[08:06] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[08:06] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: but take an Alternate (text-mode) installer, and if you happen to catch me here tomorrow i could tell you a couple of tweaks to get it installed right
[08:06] <kodai> oh. so i install the desktop using what ever version of ubuntu that i have..
[08:06] <kodai> then i install lamp?
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[08:06] <Spydon> !soundcard
[08:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about soundcard - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:06] <steveire> that's right kodai
[08:07] <Spydon> !install hardware
[08:07] <ubotu> I know nothing about install hardware - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:07] <tobberoth> fdisk -l shows nothing..
[08:07] <kodai> i thought you installed lamp on a fresh partion >.<
[08:07] <kodai> ok thanks.
[08:07] <Spydon> !hardware
[08:07] <gregg__> sorry for the typo, I'm not used to the keyboard I'm sitting at right now...
[08:07] <Shinzetsu> I edit a drive with 'winecfg' apply and click ok, but when I come back it is gone, anything I can do?
[08:07] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[08:07] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg i only have the livecds and not the alternatives
[08:07] <thomaswfry> I'm kinda new at Ubuntu and have a general question. how do i su into the root account ? I dont remeber setting one up when i installed
[08:07] <Spydon> my sound doest work... can anyone help me?
[08:07] <tobberoth> thomaswfry: use sudo
[08:07] <Shinzetsu> thomaswfry: sudo -s, use your own password
[08:07] <Spydon> it have never worked on ubuntu
[08:07] <Bob535> !kernel
[08:08] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[08:08] <steveire> thomaswfry: You didn't set up a root account. In ubuntu it's more common to use sudo
[08:08] <greenpenguin13> Spydon, has it worked on any other linuxes?
[08:08] <facugaich> Can someone recommend me a video editor for ubuntu? Someone said earlier something like "avitomux"... don't remember exaclty
[08:08] <Spydon> nope greenpenguin13
[08:08] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: having a DVD and a CD you can run the Live CD on one drive, download the alternate image and burn it to the other :-)
[08:08] <tobberoth> why won't fdisk -l work? :(
[08:08] <Spydon> i havent run any other linux :P
[08:08] <stefg> tobberoth: sudo!
[08:08] <greenpenguin13> what does your volume control look like?
[08:08] <majorMatarrese> sudo -s works just fine over here
[08:09] <greenpenguin13> is it grayed out?
[08:09] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg good idea
[08:09] <Spydon> its a red thing over it
[08:09] <Shinzetsu> I see an icon with a lock next to it, how do I unlock that?
[08:09] <thomaswfry> the reason i ask is i run an scp script from work and backup to my home server. it wont let me write to any directories owned by root
[08:09] <tobberoth> Thanks stefg! This is what it shows: "/dev/sda7   ?       83869       15108  1595155186+  f7  Unknown"
[08:09] <Spydon> and it says that i have no sound card or something like that
[08:09] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg thanks for your help man bye
[08:09] <Shinzetsu> thomaswfry: sudo chown <username> <directory>
[08:09] <tobberoth> It shouldn't be unknown, it's Fat32!
[08:09] <acojlo> is installing sun-java easy as installing the package in synaptics?
[08:09] <mike-digiport-> how can I export the values of command: dircolors, to have the same value for my regular user (user1)
[08:09] <Spydon> grayed out...
[08:09] <Spydon> idk maybe
[08:09] <cge> I've been thinking about buying a new laptop, but I've only ever had dedicated graphics controllers - how poorly does Xorg run with an Intel 960?
[08:09] <greenpenguin13> oo that means its a real pain to do...
[08:10] <cge> or similar
[08:10] <tobberoth> acojlo: Yes, but you have to update-alternatives
[08:10] <greenpenguin13> tried the forums?
[08:10] <Shinzetsu> acojlo: get easyubuntu
[08:10] <Spydon> yes
[08:10] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: ok, but SWEAR you're not going to install win. Exemption maybe a vmplayer install :-)
[08:10] <majorMatarrese> spydon, what's your issure?
[08:10] <Shinzetsu>  I see an icon with a lock next to it, how do I unlock that?
[08:10] <gregg__> tobberoth: fdisk -l followed by your harddisk, e.g. fdisk -l /dev/hda
[08:10] <TheGateKeeper> acojlo: yes just make sure you can see the terminal output as it will ask questions like accepting the licence etc
[08:10] <Bob535> just becaues i dont want to mess this up, is there a writeup on how to switch to a processor specific kernel from the default 386?
[08:10] <Spydon> My sound doesnt work...
[08:10] <tobberoth> Anyone, what does this mean in fdisk? Warning: invalid flag 0x6d42 of partition table 7 will be corrected by w(rite)
[08:11] <cge> tobberoth, that sounds ominous.
[08:11] <tobberoth> It does :(
[08:11] <majorMatarrese> spydon: ahhh, I see can't really help there, sorry
[08:11] <tobberoth> I don't understand why the partition just messed up..
[08:11] <gregg__> cge: 3d/opengl is kinda slow, but otherwise it's as good as a dedicated card
[08:11] <tobberoth> I was moving a very large folder too it, that COULD eb it
[08:11] <greenpenguin13> tobberoth, did your computer crash?
[08:11] <Elazar> I upgraded to Dapper and now can't find where to configure the screensaver. Can anyone help?
[08:11] <tobberoth> greenpenguin13: no, not at all.. I closed it down and moved over to windows.
[08:11] <majorMatarrese> elazar, regular GNOME ubuntu?
[08:12] <tobberoth> that's when I noticed it
[08:12] <cge> gregg__, so if the most graphics-intensive thing I do is play Wesnoth, it should be ok?
[08:12] <greenpenguin13> bizzarre
[08:12] <Bob535> elazar, system > preferences > screensaver
[08:12] <Elazar> majorMatarrese: Yup.
[08:12] <sam0> hi
[08:12] <Elazar> Bog535: No such option.
[08:12] <Bob535> for gnome
[08:12] <do_me_nice> hello
[08:12] <Spydon> !forum
[08:12] <ubotu> The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org
[08:12] <Elazar> s/Bog535/Bob535/
[08:12] <tobberoth> so how do i correct that flag with w(rite)?
[08:12] <Shinzetsu>  I see an icon with a lock next to it, how do I unlock that?
[08:12] <tobberoth> is it some command or something?
[08:12] <acojlo> TheGateKeeper, which to install -bin or -jre ?
[08:12] <majorMatarrese> Elazar, System>Preferences>Screensaver
[08:12] <gregg__> cge: I don't know wesnoth :) I can only say that HL2 worked reasonably for me (ATI X200M). in windows, though.
[08:12] <do_me_nice> i can't seem to get the internet working on my ubuntu any more... after my router died, it just stopped working
[08:13] <Bob535> just becaues i dont want to mess this up, is there a writeup on how to switch to a processor specific kernel from the default 386?
[08:13] <ardchoille> is this the proper command:  apt-cache search package_name
[08:13] <gregg__> cge: the ati x200m is by far the best integrated graphics solution
[08:13] <Elazar> majorMatarrese: Thanks.
[08:13] <majorMatarrese> Elazar, If you use OS X before there's a clone of the default screen saver
[08:14] <TheGateKeeper> acojlo: sun-java5-jre see here if you where using the cli: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_J2SE_Runtime_Environment_.28JRE.29_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[08:14] <do_me_nice> the first time i used ubuntu my internet "just worked", but now it doesnt
[08:14] <teicah> 'man apt-cache' for more options
[08:14] <do_me_nice> what should I do
[08:14] <do_me_nice> ?
[08:14] <steveire> looks right to me ardchoille
[08:14] <cge> gregg__, Oh, then it should certainly have no problem. If HL2 will run, the integrated controller is probably better than my dedicated one.
[08:14] <Elazar> majorMatarrese: They took out the XMatrix screensaver in Dapper? WTF?!
[08:14] <Krislarsen> Hello! Anybody knows how to get the new Microsoft VX-6000 webcamera to work in Ubuntu? If it is possible at all.....
[08:14] <kodai> Hey question! Someone told me that in order to use light, you needed to have an ubuntu base system down first. so if install light, won't it try andformat my base system?
[08:14] <Bob535> It runs on mine sometime elazar
[08:14] <majorMatarrese> it's GLmatrix now
[08:14] <azureal> sigh
[08:14] <nenita> olaaaaaaaaaaa
[08:15] <majorMatarrese> azureal, why sigh?
[08:15] <stefg> Bob535: it's as simple as intalling the kernel with synaptic or apt-get. teh old one will still be there and bootable in case of trouble (which is hardly to be expected)
[08:15] <ayeizajedi> hey everyone, trying to install RealPlayer but says that its depends on xlibs, which is not installable.. any ideas
[08:15] <Elazar> majorMatarrese: Sure? I could swear there was two different ones.
[08:15] <ardchoille> steveire: I'm getting  E: Invalid operation search
[08:15] <azureal> oh, i'm sighing for my own problems =/
[08:15] <majorMatarrese> Elazar, yes look for GLMatrix
[08:15] <Bob535> thanks stefg
[08:15] <cr3> for some reason, apt-cache search linux-source doesn't return anything. has the name of the linux source package changed?
[08:15] <azureal> glxgears runs horribly... i'm guessing it's 3d acceleration
[08:15] <Elazar> majorMatarrese: K, thanks,.
[08:15] <gregg__> cge: well... HL2 isn't that demanding, it will run fine on a geforce2
[08:15] <scrappy_> anyone have advise for using apt-get over a proxy id look myself but im a little limited what i can do on this stripped down server install..
[08:16] <acojlo> TheGateKeeper, I don't understand "CLI", also I think it's cool to have firefox plugin but should I install -bin or -jre version of sun java. Difference is platform [in] dependence
[08:16] <kodai> Hey question! Someone told me that in order to use light, you needed to have an ubuntu base system down first. so if install light, won't it try andformat my base system?
[08:16] <steveire> apt-cache search python gives me a lot of package names. It should work, but that's all I can say...
[08:16] <majorMatarrese> Elazar, there's also matrixview, but it's a little different
[08:16] <ardchoille> steveire: ok, thanks
[08:16] <Bazzi> acojlo: install -plugin that should pull everything needed
[08:16] <Linuturk> Samuli^: i dropped Azureus and picked up Transmission
[08:16] <acojlo> Bazii, thinky :)
[08:17] <tobberoth> Anyone who can help me with the following fdisk error? "Warning: invalid flag 0x6d42 of partition table 7 will be corrected by w(rite)"
[08:17] <TheGateKeeper> acojlo: -jre <C>ommand <L>ine <I>nterface what you would use if you started terminal
[08:17] <Linuturk> Samuli^: Azureus was taking 2 or 3 minutes to load :( Transmission remembers the torrents, and is light weight :)
[08:17] <TheGateKeeper> !cli > acojlo
[08:17] <Krislarsen> Anybody knows how to get the new Microsoft VX-6000 webcamera to work in Ubuntu? If it is possible at all.....
[08:17] <greenpenguin13> if i mark as away on a new xchat install, will it print anything to channels?
[08:17] <kodai> Will installing Ubuntu Light over-right the desktoP?
[08:17] <prentice> I have my user account logged into two x sessions. OpenOffice always opens on the first session. Anyone know how to make OpenOffice open on the current session like every other app?
[08:18] <goonies> how come when i right click on a iso file and select to burn it it gives me a selection of speeds not supported by drive nor the dvdr put into the drive?
[08:18] <goonies> 48x on a dvd-w
[08:18] <goonies> r*
[08:18] <Samuli^> Linuturk, what's the transmission like?
[08:18] <cr3> which package contains the linux kernel source?
[08:18] <stefg> tobberoth: what's the problem? fdisk is fixing a partition table error for you, all you'vo got to do is (w)rite the corrected one
[08:18] <tobberoth> stefg: How do i (w)rite the correct one?
[08:19] <tobberoth> It isn't fixing the problem automatically if that's what you mean
[08:19] <stefg> tobberoth: sudo fdisk
[08:19] <Linuturk> Samuli^: it's nice. it's still pre 1.0, but it's works great. there is a thread on it in the forums with screenshots
[08:19] <Samuli^> ok, I'll check it out.
[08:19] <tobberoth> sudo fdisk doesn't work, it says it needs more arguments
[08:19] <dcnstrct> dcnstrct@dragoon:~$ sudo synaptic
[08:19] <dcnstrct> Password:
[08:19] <dcnstrct> Segmentation fault
[08:19] <dcnstrct> any ideas ?
[08:19] <Linuturk> Samuli^: there is a .deb package that has been built for it. no problems here
[08:19] <teicah> cr3: sudo apt-cache search source|grep kernel
[08:20] <steveire> tobberoth: did you try sudo fdisk -l?
[08:20] <stefg> tobberoth: so it's sudo fdisk /dev/hda or whatever the drive is
[08:20] <Samuli^> linuturk, cool.
[08:20] <tobberoth> stefg: yeah, that worked. Now what?
[08:20] <Samuli^> I'm sure there's one for new bittorrent too.
[08:20] <tobberoth> should I just type w?
[08:20] <dcnstrct> dcnstrct@dragoon:~$ apt-cache search opera
[08:20] <dcnstrct> Segmentation fault
[08:20] <dcnstrct> even firefox is segfaulting... wtf!
[08:20] <stefg> tobberoth: 'm' for help
[08:21] <dcnstrct> did I get some kind of linux virus somehow ?
[08:21] <tobberoth> hmm, write table to disk.. sounds dangerous.. what are the odds it will mess up the partitions which aren't broken?
[08:21] <rsk> dcnstrct: probably not, something is just broken. software or hardware.
[08:21] <stefg> tobberoth: l (lower case L) to list.. probably this will spit out the same warning... w to let fdisk write a corrected part-table
[08:22] <Jman888> Does anybody know how to restart the Kde desktop (Without logging off)
[08:22] <cica> hi folks
[08:22] <sam0> I'd like to setup a linux network (server AND clients). I'd like to put home folders on the server, in order to get them shared between the workstations if someone logs to several places. Of course user authentication must be centralized, too, but it's a bonus if Windows workstation are able to log in. Do I need to boot with NFS to get it work ? Does anybody knows a website where I can find some howto/tutorials ? I already searched a found
[08:22] <tobberoth> stefg: l lists partition 7 as unknown.. it used to be Fat32.. do you think w will bring it back, complete with the data that used to be on it?
[08:22] <dcnstrct> rsk, well it started happening out of nowhere... I viewed the apple keynote on leopard, firefox crashed, and sense then things have been segfaulting.... so it sounds like a hardware prob to you ? what would you guess ? system memory failure or something ?
[08:22] <tobberoth> Or will it be formated?
[08:23] <cica> I'm trying to install Mplayer and I'm getting the following: Error: Bad gcc version... Don't suppose anyone can advise please ?
[08:23] <rsk> dcnstrct: run smartmoonstools and memtest86 to make sure your ram or drive isnt b0rked
[08:23] <scrappy_> cica: youre compiling mplayer?
[08:23] <trappist> sam0: you can do nfs homedirs without booting off nfs.  just need to play with pam.
[08:23] <stefg> tobberoth: bad news... this means serious damage. don't write the partition tabe now, quit fdisk and see if there's data accessible on the partition
[08:24] <dcnstrct> dcnstrct@dragoon:~$ apt-cache search opera
[08:24] <dcnstrct> Segmentation fault
[08:24] <cica> scrappy_: yes sorry I mean't compiling (I'm a newbie )
[08:24] <tobberoth> stefg: I can't even reach the partition :( It's automatically mounted to /share, but /share shows nothing.
[08:24] <dcnstrct> ooops
[08:24] <dcnstrct> sorry for the repaste
[08:24] <sam0> trappist: thanks I'm gonna try that.
[08:24] <majorMatarrese> jman888, try startkde
[08:24] <dcnstrct> I'll reboot and try the memory test, bbl
[08:24] <cica> scrappy_: any hints?
[08:24] <stefg> tobberoth: what does 'dmesg | grep panic' spit out?
[08:24] <BobC2> Before I lost my IRC client I was able to see a list of users on the right,  now I can't.  I thought I was using XChat before could I be wrong?
[08:24] <tobberoth> hold on
[08:24] <scrappy_> cica: there is mplayer available in the repos so you dont need to compile of course you can if you want
[08:25] <trappist> sam0: for windows, you need to set up a samba domain controller and have samba do its auth against pam
[08:25] <watchme> hi all
[08:25] <tobberoth> stefg: Nothing at all actually.
[08:25] <cica> scrappy_: don't quite get you. Should I be downloading something else then?
[08:25] <BobC2> Hello watchme
[08:25] <sam0> trappist: will windows user have their own personnal folder in the server, too ???
[08:25] <stefg> tobberoth: what happened before that error occurred?
[08:25] <majorMatarrese> jman888, does that work?
[08:25] <watchme> Hey.. After all I got XGL running... *smile*
[08:26] <tobberoth> stefg: Well, I was moving a huge folder from my main linux drive to the partition.
[08:26] <tobberoth> The folder was almost 4gb, but no single file in it should have been that big
[08:26] <stefg> tobberoth: and... it was not succesful i assume. ANy error messages?
[08:26] <tobberoth> The folder moved over allright, didn't notice any problems. Restarded my comp.. bam, can't find it.
[08:26] <scrappy_> cica: open a terminal and type "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.lis"
[08:26] <cica> scrappy_: ok... doing now
[08:26] <Arigato> +t
[08:27] <tobberoth> It was successfull :( I even moved another folder to the same partition after it.
[08:27] <tobberoth> No error there either
[08:27] <trappist> sam0: I believe that's doable too, but I've never done it.  something to do with roaming profiles, I think
[08:27] <gregg__> tobberoth: are you using hybernate?
[08:27] <stefg> tobberoth: fat32, right?
[08:27] <tobberoth> gregg__: Nope..
[08:27] <tobberoth> stefg: Yeah.
[08:27] <cica> scrappy_: should I be root for that?
[08:27] <scrappy_> cica: mistypesd it will be gksudo /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:28] <scrappy_> cica: just enter your pass
[08:28] <sam0> trappist: ok I have enough to play with. thank you very much !!!
[08:28] <cica> scrappy_: cool. trying
[08:28] <sam0> bye everybody
[08:28] <stefg> tobberoth: so what's its partion number? /dev/hda7?
[08:28] <gregg__> tobberoth: utilities like testdisk allow you to restore the partition table... give it a try and see if you can recover anything
[08:28] <tobberoth> stefg: /dev/sda7
[08:29] <Bob535> Does anyone know what kind of speed increase is associated with switching to a cpu specific kernel?
[08:29] <Bob535> 386 > K7 specifically
[08:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Bob535: small improvement
[08:29] <stefg> tobberoth: so check 'mount' (without arguments) if it's mounted. Shouldn't be... then sudo badblocks /dev/sda7
[08:29] <majorMatarrese> Bob535, as far as I know, unless you
[08:29] <gregg__> Bob535: won't be noticable
[08:30] <Bob535> even for cpu intensive tasks?
[08:30] <tobberoth> stefg: Yeah, it isn't there.. checking badblocks now
[08:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Bob535: Not worth the time
[08:30] <cica> scrappy_: I got the following "(gksudo:10592): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[08:30] <cica> "
[08:30] <majorMatarrese> you shouldn't need to unless you're going from x86 to PPC in which case you cant use x86 anyway
[08:30] <Linuturk> what is the command to run "checkdisk"
[08:30] <Linuturk> my system is acting up
[08:30] <tasty`> out of interest
[08:30] <Bob535> why do they have seperate kernels for different cpus then?
[08:30] <tobberoth> badblocks: No such file or directory while trying to determine device size
[08:31] <Bob535> why not just use a single general kernel?
[08:31] <acojlo> thanks to everyone who helped me: TheGateKeeper & Bazzi
[08:31] <bit_doidao> how to discover wich options the php5 was compiled?
[08:31] <Linuturk> !checkdisk
[08:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about checkdisk - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:31] <natan-> test
[08:31] <scrappy_> !sources
[08:31] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:31] <guest> has anyone got wine to work on AMD64?
[08:31] <tobberoth> stefg: Did you get that? I don't know if that's an error with badblocks or with my drive.
[08:31] <stefg> tobberoth: while you're checking ... have a look at testdisk, might come in handy
[08:32] <natan-> I can't telnet out of port 6000 to another computer, why is that?
[08:32] <scrappy_> cica: see that it might be a little clearer once you enable the repos you can just sudo apt-get install mplayer-386
[08:32] <farous> natan-: do you have a firewall
[08:32] <stefg> tobberoth: get what?
[08:32] <natan-> i dont think so
[08:32] <natan-> how do i check tho?
[08:32] <tobberoth> stefg: when I ran that command, it said: "badblocks: No such file or directory while trying to determine device size"
[08:32] <natan-> i have a router but no hardware firewall on it i dont think
[08:32] <stefg> tobberoth: time for testdisk
[08:32] <farous> natan-: you are connected and can not disconnect
[08:33] <stefg> !info testdisk
[08:33] <ubotu> testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In repository universe, is optional. Version 6.1-1 (dapper), package size 386 kB, installed size 1124 kB
[08:33] <guest> has anyone got wine to work on AMD64bit
[08:33] <jordanau> i am trying to install jre, i get an error "failed to open device" while apt is installing sun-java5-bin and plugin, it advises me to run -f install but that doesn't help
[08:33] <tobberoth> stefg: *downloads it*
[08:33] <gregg__> Bob535: it appears that there are a few debian geeks who NEED these 1% gain ;-)
[08:33] <cica> scrappy_: yeah I've used apt-get before. It's just enabling the repos I'm gonna have trouble with... :-(
[08:33] <natan-> farous : what do you mean?
[08:33] <kodai> do i need to install ubuntu desktop 6.06 to install LIGHT 6.06, or can i install an earlier version of ubuntu desktop
[08:33] <pro> if i boot the live cd, and i select the first option, it uncompresses the kernel and then hangs @ mounting filesystems.. help wanted
[08:34] <majorMatarrese> pro, try another CD
[08:34] <mopflite> pro: what is the first option?
[08:34] <tobberoth> stefg: Allright, it's installed... now how do I work this thing?
[08:34] <pro> mopflite run/install
[08:34] <gregg__> pro, did the media check?
[08:34] <scrappy_> cica: type 'groups' int a terminal are you a member of the admin group
[08:34] <majorMatarrese> pro: mine did that too and it was a bad media
[08:34] <pro> hmm
[08:34] <stefg> tobberoth: man testdisk... but it'S semi-automatic
[08:34] <cica> scrappy_: yes I am
[08:34] <farous> natan-: i can not clearly understand ur prob  can't telnet out of port 6000 to another computer
[08:34] <jordanau> Can someone help with my Java installation error http://rafb.net/paste/results/SqVy3Y66.html
[08:35] <scrappy_> cica: lets just sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:35] <pkilgore_> !shoutcast
[08:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about shoutcast - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:35] <pkilgore_> !music
[08:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about music - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:35] <pro> ok i'll try burning it again
[08:35] <pro> brb
[08:35] <pkilgore_> !life
[08:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about life - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:35] <Jman888> majorMatarrese, It says kde is already running
[08:35] <stefg> !fishing > pkilgore_
[08:35] <pkilgore_> Anybody happen to know what I need to do to get shoutcast streams working with xmms
[08:35] <ardchoille> !fishing > pkilgore_
[08:36] <scrappy_> cica: you want to remove the comment # in front of any urls like #deb
[08:36] <natan-> farous : i type "telnet 216.98.58.100 6000" in console and i can't connect, you can try it for yourself to verify?
[08:36] <majorMatarrese> jman888 try "resartkde"
[08:36] <pkilgore_> ardchoille, stefg, sorry, I'll msg ubotu next time
[08:36] <torchie> I'm trying to use ndiswrapper
[08:36] <majorMatarrese> jman888: I meant "restartkde"
[08:36] <torchie> well
[08:36] <scrappy_> cica: and then hit ctrl-o to write the changes
[08:36] <farous> natan-: if you have a router normally you have to open that port in the router
[08:36] <cica> scrappy_: ok I'll take a look and get back. (remove the # on all URL's??)
[08:36] <tobberoth> stefg: testdisk at least seems to know it's FAT32
[08:36] <scrappy_> cica: yes and the sudo apt-get update
[08:36] <torchie> more like 'I got ndiswrapper working and am unable to find the driver for my wireless adapter'
[08:37] <n08l3_Jatt> hello everybody
[08:37] <runespy> ok i have a problem with adjusting the resolution on ubuntu... when i go to change the resolution it gose to the new resolution then i dont get mouse control... so i cannot hit apply, then after 10 seconds or 5 seconds or so it logs the user out, can anyone help me with this???
[08:37] <torchie> everywhere I tried only has it in an .exe
[08:37] <stefg> tobberoth: good sigtn.. chances are you'll get it back then
[08:37] <justME> does anyone fancy themselves an expert in installing/using wine?
[08:37] <Jman888> majorMatarrese, root@ubuntu:/home/jordan/Desktop# restartkde
[08:37] <Jman888> bash: restartkde: command not found
[08:37] <Jman888> root@ubuntu:/home/jordan/Desktop# resartkde
[08:37] <Jman888> bash: resartkde: command not found
[08:37] <Jman888> root@ubuntu:/home/jordan/Desktop# restartkde
[08:37] <Jman888> bash: restartkde: command not found
[08:37] <Jman888> root@ubuntu:/home/jordan/Desktop# restartkde
[08:37] <Jman888> bash: restartkde: command not found
[08:37] <Jman888> root@ubuntu:/home/jordan/Desktop#
[08:37] <tobberoth> stefg: I'm a newbie and don't understand much.. but it seems the problem is that the FAT32 disc thinks it's enormous
[08:37] <ardchoille> !paste > Jman888
[08:37] <tobberoth> WAY bigger than my hdd actually is
[08:37] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody please tell me a good screencapturer program, that like fraps, or xvidcap
[08:37] <majorMatarrese> jaman888, that's your output?
[08:37] <hadar> hi
[08:37] <runespy> ok i have a problem with adjusting the resolution on ubuntu... when i go to change the resolution it gose to the new resolution then i dont get mouse control... so i cannot hit apply, then after 10 seconds or 5 seconds or so it logs the user out, can anyone help me with this???
[08:37] <Jman888> majorMatarrese, Yeah
[08:38] <ardchoille> !info istanbul
[08:38] <ubotu> istanbul: Desktop session recorder. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1-3ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 65 kB, installed size 344 kB
[08:38] <n08l3_Jatt> hey anybody knows how to change the greeting when a user log in a box remotely using a terminal ?
[08:38] <hadar> does any1 really understands all the alternative installation methods of ubuntu ?
[08:38] <tobberoth> stefg: testdisk says: "The following partition can't be recovered. The harddisk seems too small!"
[08:38] <ardchoille> MetaMorfoziS: ^^
[08:38] <hadar> i tried about 5 methods and its all failed. i really want ubuntu :(
[08:38] <neildarlow> does anyone know of a good, GNOME-based, DVD authoring package for Ubuntu?
[08:38] <cica> scrappy_: is that a read only file?
[08:38] <majorMatarrese> jman888, when you put in "restartkde" it does that?
[08:38] <runespy> ok i have a problem with adjusting the resolution on ubuntu... when i go to change the resolution it gose to the new resolution then i dont get mouse control... so i cannot hit apply, then after 10 seconds or 5 seconds or so it logs the user out, can anyone help me with this???
[08:38] <ardchoille> n08l3_Jatt: I believe that would be either /etc/issue or /etc/issue.net
[08:38] <Jman888> yeah
[08:39] <MetaMorfoziS> thankyou
[08:39] <stefg> tobberoth: you are aware that fat32 cannot hold files bigger than 4 GB... it might be that somehow the fat got overwritten
[08:39] <majorMatarrese> jman888: okay, do it again and then that comes up push enter again
[08:39] <hadar> does any1 really understands all the alternative installation methods of ubuntu ?
[08:39] <justME> does anyone fancy themselves an expert in installing/using wine?
[08:39] <tobberoth> stefg: I know.. but the folder I moved was only 3,86
[08:39] <tobberoth> and it contained several files
[08:39] <Frankenstein> justME, sudo apt-get install wine than winecfg
[08:39] <jordanau> Wow I am never using easy ubuntu for convenience again
[08:39] <cica> scrappy_: no it's cool. I done it as root.
[08:39] <majorMatarrese> jman888: I think restartkde is actually a shell script and it's being told to give you that file path
[08:39] <scrappy_> cica: it is unless you use sudo you need to be root
[08:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !repeat > runespy
[08:39] <scrappy_> cica: k
[08:40] <runespy> ok is it possible anyone can help me??
[08:40] <n08l3_Jatt> ardchoille: those files just have the version number of the system, but there is a lot more text shows up actually
[08:40] <hadar> runespy: try using the ocntrol tab to select the confirm button
[08:40] <Jman888> majorMatarrese, It just keeps saying the same thing.
[08:40] <hadar> also u can hold CTRL and drag with your mouse the window
[08:40] <cica> scrappy_: so now do the apt-get install mplayer-386?
[08:40] <justME> Frankenstein: I am trying to install on AMD^$ bit.  follow instruction but fails.  can't make sense of config.log file. can you help?
[08:40] <gregg__> FAT32 doesn't screw up with files bigger than 4GB. it just will error out and not create them :)
[08:40] <Jack_Sparrow> runespy: If someone knows they will answer as long as you have patience...
[08:40] <majorMatarrese> jman888: even after you hit enter for the file path?
[08:40] <stefg> tobberoth: i can't assisst you from here with proper testdisk usage, but i'd see if testdisk can recover something and then do a fsck on that drive
[08:40] <justME> Frankenstein: that's AMD64bit
[08:40] <hadar> runespy: try holding CTRL and drag the window with the mouse
[08:41] <Casey_> hello
[08:41] <hadar> Jack_Sparrow: can u help me ?
[08:41] <Jman888> majorMatarrese, File Path
[08:41] <Frankenstein> justME, i havent touched anything 64 bit, but like i said, it should be in the repostories, and winecfg is your config tool
[08:41] <ardchoille> n08l3_Jatt: try /etc/motd
[08:41] <Jman888> majorMatarrese, ?
[08:41] <tobberoth> stefg: Allright.. thanks for the help anyway.
[08:41] <hadar> Jack_Sparrow: i tried windows install and usb install. both encounterd problems.
[08:41] <cica> scrappy_:running apt-get update
[08:41] <nothingman> hi, all
[08:41] <n08l3_Jatt> thanks i got it
[08:41] <Jack_Sparrow> hadar: WIndows install of Ubuntu?
[08:41] <ztripez> any1 know how to enable all 12 buttons on a Locitech Mx1000 Bluetooth (diNovo)? I have followed all guides on forum and the wiki and can't get it to work
[08:41] <nothingman> something really strange with my laptop
[08:41] <nothingman> everything I type at a command line Segfaults
[08:42] <hadar> Jack_Sparrow: yes. there's a way to install it from  C:\
[08:42] <majorMatarrese> jman888, filepath is like user/jordan/<insert directory>
[08:42] <eli> Does anyone have a link I can go to about upgrading my 5.04 to 6.06?
[08:42] <rsk> !upgrade
[08:42] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[08:42] <eli> :) thanks rsk
[08:42] <Frankenstein> wine - Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library
[08:42] <hadar> Jack_Sparrow: but it didn't work, i recivied: "hal.dll" is corrupted
[08:42] <Jman888> majorMatarrese, I never made a restartkde script
[08:42] <e\ectro_> I am trying to do a network based installed from an HTTP location that I copied the contents of the DVD to.  I am getting an error about not having a valid release file.  Is there a way to create one?>
[08:42] <majorMatarrese> jman888, it should already be installed
[08:42] <cica> scrappy_ : and in running apt-get install is drops out saying: E: Package mplayer has no installation candidate
[08:43] <Jman888> majorMatarrese, But what directory?
[08:43] <Casey_> Is there a good how to online anywhere about how to share files between a ubuntu pc and a windows pc on a wireless network?
[08:43] <Jack_Sparrow> hadar: I dont have time atm... I'll be back later in the day
[08:43] <hadar> Jack_Sparrow: this installaion requires to change boot.ini. from what i googled about hal, this msg appears when the boot.ini is bot written correctly. But i wrote there exactly as the manual says
[08:43] <hadar> oh :(
[08:43] <majorMatarrese> jman888, not sure.  I'm googling for answers now, I only run GNOME and Xfce, so...
[08:43] <Melio> sup
[08:44] <hadar> is there a nont live cd ISO ?
[08:44] <scrappy_> cica: apt-cache search mplayer
[08:44] <majorMatarrese> jman888: okay try this
[08:44] <hadar> nont=none
[08:44] <majorMatarrese> jman888:1) find the pid of your X server:
[08:44] <majorMatarrese> ps -e | grep X
[08:44] <majorMatarrese> 2) kill X
[08:44] <majorMatarrese> su
[08:44] <majorMatarrese> kill -9 PID_FROM_ABOVE
[08:44] <majorMatarrese> 3) restart X
[08:44] <nothingman> I have no idea what's causing this behavior
[08:44] <majorMatarrese> startx &
[08:44] <NemesisUK> hadar: Yes the alternative install cd
[08:45] <Melio> hadar, if your looking for a livecd, try www.distowatch.com and seek what you find there
[08:45] <scrappy_> cica: it should be like mplayer-386 or 686
[08:45] <ardchoille> !paste > majorMatarrese
[08:45] <Melio> everything that is offered by distros is usally listed
[08:45] <majorMatarrese> ahhh, sorry
[08:45] <justME> Frankenstein:thanks for your help.  The repositories do not have a version for 64bit systems, but on the wine website there are instructions on how to compile to get it to work, but I keep getting errors.
[08:45] <jadrifter> I'm  having trouble getting sound from flashplayer on dapper drake/firefox.  The movie plays, no sound.  Any suggestions on trouble shooting this?  Other sound apps work fine.
[08:45] <Melio> sorry
[08:45] <Melio> www.distrowatch.org
[08:45] <Frankenstein> justME, did you try sudo apt-get install "build-essentials"
[08:45] <justME> is anybody using Dapper 6.06 64bit?
[08:45] <kaatil> i have question.. if i has installed linux 686 with apt... should it be okay to remove linux 386?
[08:45] <hadar> Melio: none live :)
[08:46] <mcphail> kaatil: yes
[08:46] <justME> Frankenstein:no, I'll try that now
[08:46] <kaatil> ok thanks mcphail. :)
[08:46] <nothingman> has anyone seen this before?  I can't run anything in a terminal or console
[08:46] <stefg> jadrifter: http://www.macewan.org/2006/06/01/howto-firefox-flash-video-sound-on-ubuntu-linux-dapper/
[08:46] <Awesome-o2000> i replaced mymotherboard. I have not reinstalled my system. Other than the issue where i had to turn eth1 into eth0, I havent had any issues, but is it reccommended for me to reinstall? can one go from a Via to an Intel chipset mobo without reinstalling their OS?
[08:47] <majorMatarrese> Jman888, it's in the pastebin now
[08:47] <Melio> hadar,  if you just want to try ubuntu as a test drive, why not use a vmware player for free with ubuntu's vmware image
[08:47] <hadar> !install
[08:47] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[08:47] <ardchoille> nothingman: We'll need more info. Which system? Which commands did you try? What errors are you getting?
[08:47] <cica> scrappy_: apt-cache search mplayer returned: mga-vid-source - Kernel driver for the back-end scaler on Matrox cards (source)
[08:47] <cica> mozilla-mplayer - MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla
[08:47] <HeXiOn> hello
[08:47] <jadrifter> stefg: Thanks.  Looks like exactly what I was needing.
[08:47] <majorMatarrese> Jman888, !pastebin
[08:47] <stefg> jadrifter: google is your friend :-)
[08:48] <mnvl> where on the system is the Trash folder stored?
[08:48] <Melio> http://johnbokma.com/mexit/2005/11/07/vmware-player-ubuntu-installation.html
[08:48] <hadar> NemesisUK: what's the url ?
[08:48] <Jman888> majorMatarrese, How do i get the Pid? The grep thing?
[08:48] <NemesisUK> hadar, just a mn Im getting it for you
[08:48] <nothingman> ardchoille: a Compaq Presario R3240US laptop with a k8/64-bit processor, 512 MB RAM; tried ls, sudo ___, mv; all Segmentation fault
[08:48] <erUSUL> mnvl: ~/.Trash
[08:48] <hadar> NemesisUK: thanks :)
[08:48] <HeXiOn> I need to run a script (/etc/init.d/lirc) at boot. The guide I've followed said I had to type [sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/lirc /etc/rc2.d/S50lirc ]   but it doesn't work. Anyone can help me? :)
[08:48] <majorMatarrese> jman888, yes
[08:49] <mnvl> thx a lot erUSUL
[08:49] <Jman888> major 4532 tty7     00:34:10 Xorg (Witch one?)
[08:49] <_jumbo> is a howto for installion of a netgear wirless Wg111 likely to work for a Wg111t
[08:49] <mathieu_> why would a cups printer print with a ubuntu kernel but not a standard linux kernel ?
[08:50] <Jman888> majorMatarrese,  4532 tty7     00:34:10 Xorg withch one
[08:50] <majorMatarrese> jman888. your PID is the 4 digit number
[08:50] <hadar> has any1 experienced installation from USB ?
[08:50] <mathieu_> I'm getting cups error : E [09/Aug/2006:13:48:49 -0500]  [Job 289]  No %%BoundingBox: comment in header!
[08:50] <syke> hi
[08:51] <mathieu_> hadar: i have experienced booting from usb
[08:51] <syke> I'm having some trouble with adept
[08:51] <nothingman> ardchoille, would you like for me to try another command?
[08:51] <NemesisUK> hadar, http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/ubuntu-6.06-alternate-i386.iso
[08:51] <syke> when I try to run it, it says it's missing a depdendency
[08:51] <syke> reinstalling gives me this error
[08:51] <syke> >  (b) Sound "coming and going"
[08:51] <syke> >
[08:51] <syke> oopz
[08:51] <syke>  adept depends on libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.11; however:
[08:51] <syke>   Package libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.11 is not installed.
[08:51] <Awesome-o2000> i replaced mymotherboard. I have not reinstalled my system. Other than the issue where i had to turn eth1 into eth0, I havent had any issues, but is it reccommended for me to reinstall? can one go from a Via to an Intel chipset mobo without reinstalling their OS?
[08:52] <hadar> mathieu: that's great. u think u cam help me with this ? i encounterd some weird error
[08:52] <farous> syke: check in kubuntu
[08:52] <ardchoille> nothingman: No, I was just hoping that supplying more info would enable someone to post a solution :)
[08:52] <syke> I've manually reinstalled dpkg, apt, dselect, etc
[08:52] <hadar> NemesisUK: thanks
[08:52] <HeXiOn> I need to run a script (/etc/init.d/lirc) at boot. The guide I've followed said I had to type [sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/lirc /etc/rc2.d/S50lirc ]   but it doesn't work. Anyone can help me? :)
[08:52] <Kyral_Laptop> Awesome-o2000: the auto-detect should load the right modules
[08:52] <Kyral_Laptop> but you never know
[08:52] <nothingman> ardchoille: it's the strangest thing; I haven't changed anything
[08:52] <syke> farous: strangely, they are in there talking about random things and not answering questions
[08:52] <farous> :)
[08:52] <syke> I think this is pretty generic issue
[08:52] <nothingman> ardchoille: this started as soon as I started it up to watch a DVD last night
[08:52] <stefg> Awesome-o2000: if it runs, it runs... the kernel is quite clever in adapting itself to different hardware
[08:52] <Awesome-o2000> Kyral_Laptop, it has been so far - I never expected this to work so well with such a major system change
[08:52] <syke> regardless of the pkg having the problem
[08:52] <farous> syke: why not use synaptic
[08:52] <nothingman> everything I typed at the command Segmentation faulted
[08:53] <syke> so I noticed that libapt-pkg is 'virtual'
[08:53] <Awesome-o2000> stefg, it certainly appears to be
[08:53] <Kyral_Laptop> Awesome-o2000: heh you never know with Linux
[08:53] <jadrifter> stefg: that fixed it.  thanks again.
[08:53] <syke> so how do I downgrade/upgrate that particular 'virtual' pkg?
[08:53] <Awesome-o2000> I wonder what ways there are to tell?
[08:53] <Kyral_Laptop> Fire it up and see what happens :D
[08:53] <e\ectro_> I am trying to do a network based installed from an HTTP location that I copied the contents of the DVD to.  I am getting an error about not having a valid release file.  Is there a way to create one?>
[08:53] <Kyral_Laptop> Thats what I do
[08:53] <jordan> major > It worked
[08:53] <MetaMorfoziS> please tell me a good video converter (i need ogg form avi or mpeg)
[08:54] <syke> farous: what's synaptic?
[08:54] <MetaMorfoziS> from ogg to avi or mpeg^^
[08:54] <Kyral_Laptop> !synaptic
[08:54] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[08:54] <stefg> A!info synaptic
[08:54] <Kyral_Laptop> Icky....
[08:54] <farous> syke: is your problem with adept or apt?
[08:54] <stefg> !info synaptic
[08:54] <ubotu> synaptic: Graphical package manager. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.57.8ubuntu11 (dapper), package size 1011 kB, installed size 5384 kB
[08:54] <ardchoille> !synaptic
[08:54] <majorMatarrese> jman888, I just tried it and all it does is log you out
[08:54] <Awesome-o2000> Kyral_Laptop, I have - its been working fine since last nice
[08:54] <MetaMorfoziS> !convert
[08:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about convert - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:54] <Awesome-o2000> night I mean
[08:54] <Kyral_Laptop> I have yet to find a decent GUI package manager
[08:54] <MetaMorfoziS> !videoconvert
[08:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about videoconvert - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:54] <MetaMorfoziS> !video
[08:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about video - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:54] <Kyral_Laptop> Gimme Apt or Pacman
[08:54] <pngwen> Does anyone know of any issues involving using multiple Radeon 7000 PCI cards with ubuntu?
[08:54] <MetaMorfoziS> please helpme
[08:55] <Jman888> majorMatarrese, Yeah, But i logged back in and everythings working now. I just hope my desktop doesnt mess up again.
[08:55] <e\ectro_> has anyone created their own Ubunty Archive Mirror before?
[08:55] <Kyral_Laptop> MetaMorfoziS: look on GnomeApps or KDE-Apps
[08:55] <Kyral_Laptop> err
[08:55] <Kyral_Laptop> gnomefiles
[08:55] <majorMatarrese> jman888, what was the issue in the first place?
[08:55] <syke> farous: attempting to install synaptic gives me a similar error
[08:55] <stefg> MetaMorfoziS: are you trying to tanscode a video, or whta?
[08:55] <pngwen> I am trying to set that up, but it crashes.  The set up works with just one.  The xorg log files show it loading RADEON(1) twice, never a RADEON(0) section.  Anyone know how to get this to work?
[08:55] <MetaMorfoziS> yes, i need to convert ogg to mpeg or avi
[08:55] <Kyral_Laptop> www.gnomefiles.org or www.kde-apps.org
[08:55] <Kyral_Laptop> why, OGG is a superior format
[08:55] <farous> syke: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[08:55] <hadar> has any1 experienced installation from USB ?
[08:56] <Jman888> majorMatarrese, When trying to unzip a file it froze up and froze my whole desktop. (So i couldnt click on nothing)
[08:56] <syke> guh
[08:56] <syke> that's what I did
[08:56] <farous> syke: will be helpfull if you post the error on the pastebin
[08:56] <syke>   synaptic: Depends: libapt-inst-libc6.3-6-1.1
[08:56] <syke>             Depends: libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.11
[08:56] <syke>             Depends: libvte4 (>= 1:0.12.1) but it is not going to be installed
[08:56] <Jman888> majorMatarrese, But the bottom bar was still working and i was working on something so i didnt want to log off.
[08:56] <majorMatarrese> syke: !pastebin
[08:56] <stefg> MetaMorfoziS: have a lokk at vlc and its transcoding abilities, or check ffmpeg
[08:56] <HeXiOn> please, anybody can help me? :(
[08:56] <HeXiOn> I need to run a script (/etc/init.d/lirc) at boot. The guide I've followed said I had to type [sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/lirc /etc/rc2.d/S50lirc ]   but it doesn't work. Anyone can help me?
[08:56] <Kyral_Laptop> are you running Edgy by and chance
[08:56] <farous> !pastebin > syke
[08:56] <syke> I'm familiar with pastebin and gladly use it with >3 lines of text
[08:57] <majorMatarrese> jman888, you didn't lose your work did you?
[08:57] <kaatil> anyone know a program that you can setup for second monitor?
[08:57] <syke> anyways
[08:57] <ompaul> syke, we are lines here :)
[08:57] <Jman888> majorMatarrese, I dont think so.
[08:57] <kaatil> i seem cant find one on gnome.
[08:57] <Pulshion> hi, im trying to play streaming video using totem, everytime i run the channel i get erro that totem doesnt have a permission to open the file...on my other pc with windows it works perfectly when i click the link
[08:57] <torchie> ARGH
[08:57] <kaatil> atm
[08:57] <tasty`> sup?
[08:57] <ompaul> syke, we are 2 lines here :) [doh] 
[08:57] <syke> it is still coming down to the libapt-pkg dependency
[08:57] <Jman888> majorMatarrese, I saved everything.
[08:57] <syke> ompaul: noted
[08:57] <stefg> !restricted > Pulshion
[08:57] <majorMatarrese> jman888: ok, cool, glad I could help
[08:57] <torchie> I can't figure out how I could get wusb54g working
[08:57] <majorMatarrese> torchie, that one never worked for me
[08:57] <Jman888> majorMatarrese, Thanks
[08:58] <torchie> !?!?!
[08:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about ?!?! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:58] <majorMatarrese> hahaha
[08:58] <stefg> hah
[08:58] <Truemmel> hi
[08:58] <torchie> so in other words I'm pretty much stuck to this spot in the room unless I use windows
[08:58] <torchie> dammit
[08:58] <syke> farous: anything else I should try?
[08:58] <Truemmel> how do i get a channel list here in Konversation?
[08:58] <majorMatarrese> torchie, this is a notebook, yeah?
[08:58] <torchie> yeah
[08:58] <stefg> !wifi > torchie
[08:59] <torchie> !wifi
[08:59] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:59] <Jman888> Does anybody know how to stop cntl-alt-delete from doing anything in kde? I have win4lin but i need to push cntrl-alt-delete in the windows thing.
[08:59] <majorMatarrese> torchi: You can always pop a DWL-G630 in and run without any setup effort
[08:59] <torchie> DWL-G630?
[08:59] <majorMatarrese> torchie: You can always pop a DWL-G630 in and run without any setup effort
[08:59] <mixandgo> any ideea how to test my hardware ? for bad ram/hdd/cpu ?
[08:59] <pngwen> anyone know of issues using multiple video cards with the radeon driver in ubuntu?  Mine crashes
[08:59] <majorMatarrese> it's a notebook PCI card
[08:59] <Truemmel> or a linksys with ralink chip. works great
[08:59] <farous> syke: frankly can not figure that out. (i suspect mixed unoffical repos though)
[08:59] <TheGateKeeper> HeXiOn: assuming your script runs ok try adding it to: /etc/rc.local edit it with gksudo gedit /etc/rc.local then add your script then save
[09:00] <Awesome-o2000> mixandgo, memtest86 is a good tool
[09:00] <torchie> I'll take that as a "you're out of luck"
[09:00] <majorMatarrese> torchie:  It's made by d-link and gets amazingly good reception
[09:00] <Awesome-o2000> mixandgo, if you care to elaborate on your issues I might be able to help
[09:00] <HeXiOn> TheGateKeeper, thank you, I'm going to probe it :)
[09:00] <JackONeill> Does anyone know how to get past level 70 on Frozen Bubble? :P
[09:00] <TheGateKeeper> HeXiOn: hope you sort it :-)
[09:00] <majorMatarrese> torchie: If you feel like it, run an iwconfig and put the output in the pastebin
[09:00] <Truemmel> how to permanently change the MAC of a wireless card?
[09:00] <stefg> mixandgo: memtest is an option in the boot-menu (press esc at boot) let it run overnight for valid results. hd-checks are done using the 'badblocks utility
[09:00] <Pntkl`> good
[09:00] <torchie> It's not like I would be able to buy one of those even if I did find one
[09:01] <Awesome-o2000> Truemmel, you can't change the MAC - its in the hardware
[09:01] <torchie> pastebin?
[09:01] <mixandgo> Awesome-o2000, I am having some problems, I've installed a vanilla kernel with rt patch and I get a lockup if I try to compile alsa
[09:01] <e\ectro_> has anyone created their own Ubunty Archive Mirror before?
[09:01] <majorMatarrese> torchi: !pastebin
[09:01] <farous> syke: just wondering how did you manually reinstall dpkg and apt?
[09:01] <torchie> !pastebin
[09:01] <majorMatarrese> torchie:pastebin
[09:01] <Awesome-o2000> mixandgo, what happens when you use the standard ubuntu kernel?
[09:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:01] <Truemmel> i can making a ifconfig hw ether x:x:x
[09:01] <mixandgo> Awesome-o2000, it works
[09:01] <Truemmel> but its not permanent
[09:01] <cica> guys: anyone able to advise please? When I do apt-get update it drops out half way through with the following errors:E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:01] <cica> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:02] <mixandgo> Awesome-o2000, tho I can't explain the freezing
[09:02] <Awesome-o2000> mixandgo, then your issue is quite obviously with your custom kernel.
[09:02] <torchie> but how would this help?
[09:02] <stefg> cica: close sysnaptic
[09:02] <gnomefreak> cica: close synaptic
[09:02] <cica> stefg gnomefreak: cheers guys :-)
[09:02] <A[D] minS> where i can find file contains startup log
[09:02] <HeXiOn> TheGateKeeper, in that file I have only 1 line: [exit 0]   I put the line /etc/init.d/lirc before or after that line?
[09:02] <majorMatarrese> actually, your right
[09:02] <stefg> can we ahve a factoid on that?
[09:02] <mixandgo> Awesome-o2000, but i would like to be shure there is nothing wrong with my hardware anyway
[09:02] <mixandgo> Awesome-o2000, so how do I do that ?
[09:03] <Awesome-o2000> mixandgo, no problem, I'd run memtestx86 , its on the ubuntu cd
[09:03] <majorMatarrese> torchie: give me an lspci instead
[09:03] <syke> farous: for a brief moment I had the 6.1 repo in my sources.list, but immediately removed it
[09:03] <TheGateKeeper> HeXiOn: before exit 0 (see instructions in the file)
[09:03] <bigjimmcbob> i've got a strange problem... when i build ardour2 from svn no executable is built... just libraries
[09:03] <Truemmel> it sucks to have to change the mac for going online ....
[09:03] <Awesome-o2000> Truemmel, you can't change your MAC
[09:03] <Jman888> How can i stop Ctrl-Alt-Delete From doing Anything. In Kde
[09:03] <syke> and removed the references from /var/apt/*
[09:03] <majorMatarrese> Truemmel, do you watch hak.5?
[09:03] <HeXiOn> TheGateKeeper, ok, thanks... I was confused because my script also ends with "exit 0" :D
[09:03] <syke> it seems like I need to downgrade libc or something
[09:03] <mixandgo> Awesome-o2000, memtestx86 is different than memtest ?
[09:04] <syke> I just can't find any infoz on this virtual package and how it works
[09:04] <Truemmel> awesome: i do it now ...
[09:04] <farous> syke: i think you might have upgraded some packages and that is what causing the troubles
[09:04] <Awesome-o2000> mixandgo, one and the same
[09:04] <excitatory> i'm having strange dpkg errors when attempting to install anything.  Here is an excerpt of the error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20136
[09:04] <Awesome-o2000> Truemmel, sure you do.
[09:04] <torchie> I think I just did it
[09:04] <torchie> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20137
[09:04] <TheGateKeeper> HeXiOn: it end with something probable bug out :-)
[09:04] <Truemmel> mayor: no, what is that?
[09:04] <mixandgo> Awesome-o2000, memtest mem all freezes
[09:04] <Awesome-o2000> mixandgo, memtest is something you boot into
[09:04] <Awesome-o2000> not a program you run
[09:04] <syke> farous: agreed -- how do I downgrade them??
[09:05] <farous> syke: after you retruned to dapper repos did you run. sudo apt-get update
[09:05] <TheGateKeeper> HeXiOn: if it ends with something else it would probable bug out :-) (if only I could type lol)
[09:05] <syke> yes
[09:05] <HeXiOn> lol
[09:05] <stefg> syke: decide if it's more trouble to get apt to downgrade libc6, or rather admit that you borked your system and reinstall :-)
[09:05] <mixandgo> Awesome-o2000, oh
[09:05] <KnightKiller> i can't install ubuntu 6.06 dvd x64 because the X Server doesn't work. MSI NX6600GT and Philips 190S
[09:05] <Awesome-o2000> mixandgo, out of curiosity, what are your system specs?
[09:05] <torchie> majorMatarrese: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20137
[09:05] <farous> stefg: :)
[09:05] <syke> guh. if I reinstall, it's back to gentoo
[09:06] <HeXiOn> TheGateKeeper, thank you for your help, I'm rebooting to test if this works.... (I managed to install LIRC, but it doesn't load on boot...)
[09:06] <syke> how would I downgrade libc6?
[09:06] <A[D] minS> i have error in starting service "check all file system"
[09:06] <majorMatarrese> torchie: what is your USB wireless known as?
[09:06] <A[D] minS> how i can get that error?
[09:06] <TheGateKeeper> HeXiOn: good luck :-)
[09:06] <mixandgo> Awesome-o2000, amd64 athlon 3400+ 1gb ram, 80gb hdd, laptop, presario r3000
[09:06] <majorMatarrese> torchieI plug it in and run an lsusb
[09:06] <syke> I'm a little confused by the fact that it says 6.3.x rather than 2.3.x or 2.4.x
[09:06] <can-o-worms> does ubuntu's default set up block ssh from non-local ip addresses?
[09:07] <HeXiOn> if I come back, it means no luck :D
[09:07] <excitatory> syke: what kind of reasoning is that?  ubuntu takes less than 15 minutes to re-install..
[09:07] <majorMatarrese> torchie: plug it in and run an lsusb
[09:07] <HeXiOn> bye
[09:07] <torchie> ok
[09:07] <Truemmel> mixandgo: try "safe graphic mode"
[09:07] <Awesome-o2000> mixandgo, did you upgrade the ram in it or did it come with that ram?
[09:07] <hadar> has any1 experienced installation from USB ?
[09:07] <syke> excitatory: it has a packaging system I can comprehend and get help with
[09:07] <mixandgo> Awesome-o2000, it came with it
[09:08] <mixandgo> Truemmel, can nvidia cause that ?
[09:08] <syke> I just need to know what i need to do to satisfy this dependency: libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.11
[09:08] <excitatory> syke: well, what's your question..  i'm well versed in debian, gentoo, and ubuntu..
[09:08] <torchie> majorMatarrese: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20138
[09:08] <Awesome-o2000> mixandgo, your system should be fine then unless you've done something traumatic to it - nice setup btw - and your issues are because you havent configured your kernel correctly then
[09:08] <DarkPhantom> Hi Guys, is there some web based admin tool for ubuntu? something I can manage packages/services in without having to shell into the box?
[09:08] <syke> I have manually re-installed apt, dpkg, etc, etc with manual downloads and dpkg -i
[09:08] <syke> still no dice
[09:08] <Flannel> hadar: not personally, but depending on your situation, here's the information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[09:08] <Truemmel> mixandgo: had the same on athlon64 and ati card.
[09:08] <syke> libc6 seems like the next step, but I wanted to make sure first
[09:09] <mixandgo> Awesome-o2000, thanks ! any ideea tho why there is no ubuntu reltime kernel ?
[09:09] <Awesome-o2000> mixandgo, if I may reccommend - just use the ubuntu kernel as a base for your config
[09:09] <mixandgo> Awesome-o2000, I did that
[09:09] <Awesome-o2000> mixandgo, what do you mean by "realtime" - if you mean with pre-emption mine is
[09:09] <Awesome-o2000> it shoudl be anyhow
[09:09] <cge> Is there a way to get network-manager to give verbose debugging output, or would I need to add things to the code to do that?
[09:09] <Flannel> syke: what package requires that?
[09:09] <mixandgo> Awesome-o2000, yes, with the ingo molnar's patch
[09:09] <Awesome-o2000> Linux p4ht 2.6.15-26-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 03:13:28 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Lin ux
[09:09] <Awesome-o2000> no patching here
[09:10] <Togo> hi
[09:10] <excitatory> syke: why did you reinstall those packages?
[09:10] <NemesisUK> mixandgo, you tried lovering your agp to 4x to see if the freezes go away
[09:10] <Truemmel> hihi. i really am on a wep-encrypted mac-filter protected dsl line ! im proud
[09:10] <crimsun> mixandgo: because that patch is _huge_ -- very intrusive -- and doesn't apply cleanly with the thousands of patches we have
[09:10] <Togo> does anyone know if dhcp server is compatible with athX (atheros) interfaces?
[09:10] <NemesisUK> mixandgo, or turning off fastwrites
[09:10] <Awesome-o2000> NemesisUK, dont tell peple to do that
[09:10] <syke> flannel: synaptic and adept, both
[09:10] <amgad> guys, how can i reinstall grub using drake live cd
[09:10] <Togo> for me dhcp server says tthat there is no interface to listen
[09:10] <syke> exictatory: in an attempt to satisfy the dependency
[09:10] <syke> which is 'virtual'
[09:10] <mixandgo> crimsun, but that is something crucial for audio
[09:10] <cge> mixandgo, Why do you want realtime? Do you have some specialised task you want to do?
[09:11] <hadar> does any1 know INSTLUX ?
[09:11] <Flannel> syke: What are you trying to do?  Synaptic and adept should already be installed
[09:11] <majorMatarrese> torchie, try and ifconfig.  I'm just trying to determine the name of your wireless device (i.e. Ath0, eth0, eth1, etc)
[09:11] <mixandgo> cge, live performance
[09:11] <hadar> !instlux
[09:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about instlux - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:11] <Awesome-o2000> mixandgo, you're trying to do multitrack recording in linux?
[09:11] <NemesisUK> Awesome-o2000, why not, sometimes its the only way to get atholon64+ati in linux to work well
[09:11] <adminx> grub -install
[09:11] <Awesome-o2000> NemesisUK, cmon man...
[09:11] <syke> flannel: there are updates, apparantly
[09:11] <crimsun> mixandgo: you can still compile your own from kernel.org, then, as ubuntustudio.com suggests
[09:11] <mixandgo> Awesome-o2000, multitrack too
[09:11] <Flannel> syke: do you have the web repositories enabled?
[09:11] <syke> so
[09:12] <syke> in the sources.list?
[09:12] <nothingman> I can't believe everything from a CLI Segfaults
[09:12] <Flannel> syke: aye
[09:12] <syke> I do believe so
[09:12] <hadar> i can't find an eve file in instlux directory. how do i install it ?
[09:12] <Awesome-o2000> mixandgo, now THATS some bleeding edge sh** - I would REALLY appreciate some feedback how that turns out for you
[09:12] <NemesisUK> Awesome-o2000,, but it's something to look into if they dont want too they dont have too
[09:12] <Flannel> syke: and have you updated your apt-cache after doing that?
[09:12] <mixandgo> crimsun, that's what I just did but alsa-driver will freeze my machine if I try to compile it
[09:12] <cge> mixandgo, If you really want it, I would use the vanilla kernel, yes.
[09:12] <excitatory> syke: please call out my name.. it's hard to see your text in the channel.. also, i havn't been following your problem.. and so everything you've told me thus far is vague and incomplete.
[09:12] <Awesome-o2000> NemesisUK, sure - so it pouring sugar into your gas tank when it needs a tune up
[09:12] <cge> mixandgo, oh
[09:12] <mixandgo> Awesome-o2000, not really bleeding edge, gentoo has it in ports !
[09:13] <Flannel> syke: you shouldn't have had to manually install anything, unless something isn't working correctly
[09:13] <syke> excitatory: ok, sorry
[09:13] <excitatory> exactly
[09:13] <Awesome-o2000> mixandgo, Im probably going to put gentoo back on today
[09:13] <Awesome-o2000> I might not though
[09:13] <excitatory> especially the package manager
[09:13] <alxarch> hi, i have the following problem after a week of trying i managed to enable winbind to work properly in my lab's computers. the only problem is that now the users that are being added have gids from 10000-20000 and they are not members of any group of ubuntu, thus they cannot mount usbdrives, print or do anything a normal user can do. they are only members of nogroup.how can i tall samba to add them in an additional group e.g. plugdev?
[09:13] <Awesome-o2000> as much as I love gentoo it is infuriating to reinstall
[09:13] <crimsun> mixandgo: ...just attempting to compile it?
[09:13] <mixandgo> Awesome-o2000, :) I just moved from gentoo...
[09:13] <umsteiger> can sombody help me, i am having a usb stick but it isn't detected automatically ... what do I have to do?
[09:14] <mixandgo> crimsun, well it freezes half way
[09:14] <Awesome-o2000> mixandgo, me too - it was originally just a temp measure but ubuntu is working out really well
[09:14] <MightyBall> my gnome is acting wierd. mouse accel stuck on slow (wont save), keyboard repeat not working. theme manager complaining about metacity not being installed, etc.
[09:14] <hadar> i can't find an eve file in instlux directory. how do i install it ?
[09:14] <mixandgo> Awesome-o2000, yep, it does !
[09:14] <NemesisUK> Awesome-o2000, thats an appauling analogy, it's was only an idea worked for mates of mine and it doesnt kill your performance either
[09:14] <crimsun> mixandgo: can you be more specific?
[09:14] <Awesome-o2000> mixandgo, just out of curiosity - why dont you just compile a kernel from the ubuntu source and put the low-latency options in there you want?
[09:14] <mathieu_> umsteiger: you must install the kernel modules that  will reconise your usb bus, then load the modules that load a usb storage device
[09:14] <crimsun> Awesome-o2000: because the patch simply doesn't apply against our patched source
[09:15] <Awesome-o2000> NemesisUK, sure it doesnt. and you wont get giant carbon crystals in your cylinders either...
[09:15] <mixandgo> Awesome-o2000, I don't know ! I was just following advice from ubuntstudio.com
[09:15] <Larsson-Sweden> So if i want java installed so i can run apps like Azureus, wich package should i install in synaptic?
[09:15] <Flannel> syke: can you pastebin your sources.list?
[09:15] <mixandgo> crimsun, ./configure works, make freezes my machine
[09:15] <excitatory> alxarch: that seems like more of a general samba question.  i don't know much about it, but i think it involves creating virtual or actual machine accounts for your users.  have you tried #samba ?
[09:15] <syke> flannel: sure
[09:15] <Awesome-o2000> crimsun, I was talking about forgoing the "realtime" patches and checking the performance of the ubuntu kernel compiled with low-latency options enabled
[09:16] <Awesome-o2000> I was under the impression that the current low latency code in the kernel is pretty good
[09:16] <alxarch> excitatory: i just did!: )
[09:16] <farous> syke: it will be helpfull if you state your true prob. you upgraded some prog to edgy probably apt and libc6 and now you wana downgrade :)
[09:16] <Awesome-o2000> theyve been working on that for a REALLY long time
[09:16] <MightyBall> anybody know what to do to fix a messed up gconf?
[09:16] <crimsun> Awesome-o2000: it wasn't enabled til edgy.
[09:16] <syke> farous: that may be the case
[09:16] <Awesome-o2000> I have yet to see any kind of pro-tools competitor for linux
[09:16] <syke> I'm not sure exactly what happened
[09:16] <umsteiger> @mathieu_: Aren't the modules installed automatically? Or do you mean I have to load them ... in the later case, how to make that permanently? ... and one more question, the USB Device (Bus) is already showing up under the devicemanager, isn't that enough?
[09:17] <syke> I did try the kernel from edgy to see if it fixed some issues
[09:17] <syke> which it did
[09:17] <crimsun> mixandgo: then you'll need to compile in a non-RT kernel against the RT headers
[09:17] <DonLemmi> Hi, can someone here tell me how to cut down the user rights in ubuntu? I authenticate my users with an ldap, but still they can change system-settings using they own pw like with sudo
[09:17] <syke> but I guess it installed some other things in the process
[09:17] <mathieu_> umsteiger: is sdhci module loaded ?
[09:17] <DonLemmi> I changed the sudoers file, but still they can change stuff in the gui-tools
[09:17] <mathieu_> umsteiger: modules are not always loaded automatically
[09:17] <Flannel> syke: ah.  Well, that explains it ;)  Edgy isn't even alpha yet
[09:17] <crimsun> mixandgo: anyhow, I was asking for more software specifics, as in which version of which RT patch against which source, etc.
[09:17] <Awesome-o2000> crimsun, but if one "wanted" to, one COULD get themselves the ubuntu source (installing kernels the ubuntu way?), select those, and have a decently stable custom kernel, right?
[09:17] <mathieu_> umsteiger: you load them with modprobe modulename
[09:17] <torchie> majorMatarrese: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20139
[09:18] <crimsun> Awesome-o2000: surely
[09:18] <majorMatarrese> got it
[09:18] <mathieu_> umsteiger: you can change /etc/modules and add module names that you want to load at boot
[09:18] <mixandgo> crimsun, latest (2.6.17) rt8
[09:18] <Awesome-o2000> crimsun, heres the kicker though - would any of the modules for the ubuntu kernel work? linux-restricted-modules and the such?
[09:18] <crimsun> mixandgo: have you reported it upstream, then?
[09:18] <natan-> is there anyway to find out if i have a firewall active in ubuntu or a program is using a port or something like that
[09:18] <crimsun> Awesome-o2000: you'd have to rebuild those, too
[09:18] <alxarch> is there an easy way to copy configurations like smb.conf on multiple machines? or do i have to manually login to every machine and copy files to appropriate directories?
[09:18] <DonLemmi> natan- use netstat
[09:18] <crimsun> Awesome-o2000: that's why we have an ABI
[09:18] <sivanicon> Anyone here ever install citrix client on ubuntu?
[09:18] <Awesome-o2000> ABI?
[09:19] <linovice> good evening: can anyone tell me if it is possible to install UBUNTU on a brand new laptop ?
[09:19] <crimsun> Awesome-o2000: (not ABI as used upstream but "ABI" to denote external module compat)
[09:19] <enyc> linovice:  probably... what hardwaro will/wont work with/without tweaking is another matter ;-)
[09:19] <mixandgo> crimsun, I'm not shure what is the problem, dunno what to report
[09:19] <MightyBall> anybody know what to do to fix a messed up gconf?
[09:19] <alpa> linovice: depends on configuration
[09:19] <majorMatarrese> torchie, it's looking like you'll have to use ndiswrapper for this one, or boot back into windows for wifi
[09:19] <umsteiger> @mathieu_: Now it is loaded
[09:19] <crimsun> mixandgo: you just told me what the problem is :)
[09:19] <alxarch> libnovice: yes, if some distro can do it ubuntu is it's name!
[09:19] <torchie> I have ndiswrapper
[09:19] <mathieu_> umsteiger: can you mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 ?
[09:20] <torchie> but I can't find the driver unless it's in a .exe
[09:20] <Awesome-o2000> crimsun, yeah thats the thing, im looking to still be able to use the "official" ubuntu linux module packages, so I have to be able to disguinse the kernel as the stock 606-smp
[09:20] <mixandgo> crimsun, yeah but it could be something wrong with my laptop
[09:20] <adri_> hi everybody! i've a problem with my wifi. when i switch on my computer after an hibernation my wifi doesn't work. Can everyone help me please? (i'm french so excuse my english)
[09:20] <mathieu_> umsteiger: mkdir /mnt/sda1
[09:20] <Awesome-o2000> 686-smp
[09:20] <sivanicon> ls
[09:20] <majorMatarrese> torchie: is it working?  Have you configured it yet?
[09:20] <linovice> alxarch and enyc : thanks a lot :)
[09:20] <crimsun> mixandgo: now what _I_ would do before posting to lkml is to ensure that I _can_ compile alsa-driver modules while running a non-RT kernel
[09:20] <Doodluv> !libxine-extracodecs
[09:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about libxine-extracodecs - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:20] <aaronc> does anyone know of an application like pageant for linux?  it would basically manage SSH connections?
[09:20] <alpa> sivanicon : try tht in terminal
[09:20] <torchie> majorMatarrese: I can't find the driver unless its in an .exe
[09:20] <torchie> already tried the linksys site
[09:20] <sivanicon> alpa: yeah yeah
[09:20] <alxarch> adri_: have you upgraded packages related to powersave etc?
[09:20] <torchie> and other sites
[09:21] <mixandgo> crimsun, I can with ubuntu kernel
[09:21] <Kaja> My SSH connections are managed by ssh and sshd =)
[09:21] <crimsun> Awesome-o2000: you can't, nor would you want to
[09:21] <magus_> hello
[09:21] <Awesome-o2000> crimsun, im just being a lazy putz
[09:21] <alpa> magus_ : hello
[09:21] <crimsun> mixandgo: what about a vanilla kernel.org one without RT?
[09:21] <magus_> i got some strange problems with java, it gets permission not allowed even to do a HTMLDocument.body
[09:21] <adri_> alxarch: i don't know. i downloaded the update that linux recommended. maybe powersave is included? i don't know what is powersave?
[09:22] <Awesome-o2000> !kernel
[09:22] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:22] <Awesome-o2000> hmm
[09:22] <acojlo> is it ok to delete some script in rc6.d (shutdown level) or that can be done automaticaly. I've removed some script (like avahi-daemon) from system but they are still in shutdown ubuntu usplash screen.
[09:22] <Awesome-o2000> !kpkg
[09:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about kpkg - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:22] <Awesome-o2000> darn it I used to know what to ask ubotu
[09:22] <magus_> i get permission not allowed for alot of things, now even java... help plz
[09:22] <alxarch> excitatory: the guys (&girls?) on #samba are REALLY silent....: )
[09:22] <acojlo> !dpkg
[09:22] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[09:22] <alpa> !permission
[09:22] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html - file permissions are explained at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[09:22] <linovice> alxarch : can you have both UBUNTU and windows on a same hard drive ?
[09:22] <mixandgo> crimsun, have not tryed without the patch
[09:23] <alxarch> adri_: what's the model of yr wifi?
[09:23] <Flannel> !tell linovice about dualboot
[09:23] <alpa> magus_: try !permission
[09:23] <hadar> i can't install ubuntu :( i tried 5 different ways
[09:23] <acojlo> linovice, you can but probably y'll have to install them on separate partitions
[09:23] <umsteiger> @mathieu_: The module is loaded, but I can't mount ...
[09:23] <alpa> !tell magus_ about permission
[09:23] <linovice> cheers acojlo.
[09:23] <hadar> mathieu_: do u think u can help me?
[09:23] <alxarch> linovice: yes but you have to pertition correctly, check the installation guides on help.ubuntu.com
[09:24] <acojlo> linovice, except you want to use qemu or wine or vmware for crossoffice for running windows programs
[09:24] <alpa> hadar: wht problem do u get? when n where/
[09:24] <majorMatarrese> WINE always WINS in my book
[09:24] <alxarch> anybody with samba expierience?
[09:24] <acojlo> linovine, those programs are for running windows programs from linux
[09:25] <torchie> majorMatarrese: hmm?
[09:25] <majorMatarrese> torchie: what?
[09:25] <hadar> alpa: on usb install: "can't find /casper/.vim". on thorugh windows install (on boot): "hal.dll is corrupted" (somthing like that
[09:25] <torchie> any suggestions?
[09:25] <adri_> the model of my wifi is Realteck RTL 8081 (but the configuration is correct because when i start linux normaly (not after an hibernation) my wifi workt perfectly)
[09:25] <alpa> !installing ubuntu
[09:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about installing ubuntu - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:25] <majorMatarrese> torchie: meaning for your wifi problemo?
[09:25] <ardchoille> !away > Pretoriano
[09:25] <adri_> alxarch: the model of my wifi is Realteck RTL 8081 (but the configuration is correct because when i start linux normaly (not after an hibernation) my wifi workt perfectly)
[09:25] <torchie> yeah
[09:25] <owen_> im having problems with my fstab, if i make an entry - the partition for the entry i made is gone, also the computer is not displaying 1 of my partitions, they are all ext3
[09:25] <acojlo> linovice, fat32 is supported from linux with read/write operations, but ntfs just for read operations. There are some ntfs-write drivers but they are experimental (unstable?)
[09:25] <hadar> alpa: im now trying to use INSTLUX so it will automatically prepare my computer to a thoguh windows installation. but i fail to install it too :((
[09:26] <DonLemmi> How should one use ubuntu on a corporate desktop if one cant lock down the users rights?
[09:26] <finalbeta> how to check cpu temp , fan speeds on linux?
[09:26] <alpa> hadar: check the installation guides on help.ubuntu.com
[09:26] <Pretoriano> ardchoille,  didn't know..sorry
[09:26] <DonLemmi> finalbeta: lmsensors
[09:26] <hadar> alpa: i installed ubunutu twice on other computers using my live CD's. they are not working in mine
[09:26] <finalbeta> thnx
[09:26] <linovice> acojlo : are these programmes really working ? are they provided by microsoft or are part of the linux community ?
[09:26] <hadar> alpa: i tried
[09:26] <majorMatarrese> torchie: sorry, I would just look around for linux drivers or use something that's not USB.  the Notebook PCI cards tend to have a higher success rate, I've found
[09:26] <torchie> alright
[09:27] <alxarch> adri_: if u installed all the updates and you are sure it's working properly before hibernation then you propably have to file a bug report
[09:27] <hadar> alpa: i did eveything from the manuals. doesn't work. can't find a instlux manuals tho
[09:27] <majorMatarrese> torchie, you'll have to forgive my long response time, I'm trying to write a podcast episode over here
[09:27] <hadar> when i try to compile the NSI file: Output: "C:\instlux_4.0\bin\instluxNETUbuntu5_10_en.exe"
[09:27] <hadar> Can't open output file
[09:27] <torchie> ok
[09:27] <hadar> that's what i get in the error log.
[09:28] <umsteiger> @mathieu_: ls -al /dev/sda1 ... no such file ... is there anything more I can do? Do I need another module for the USB-Hub in my monitor?
[09:28] <linovice> alxarch : with dualboot, can I partition a harddrive after windows has been installed to have both linux and windows on it ?
[09:29] <majorMatarrese> !ndiswrapper
[09:29] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:29] <adri_> alxarch: when i start linux, it say that everything is ok except the loading of the network interface. maybe the problem come from this?
[09:29] <mathieu_> umsteiger: you may need other modules
[09:29] <natan-> my x11 server is using port 6000 hwo do i stop it?
[09:29] <hadar> im trying to install ubuntu for two weeks!!!
[09:30] <alxarch> linovice: please read the installation guides they are quite enlighting... and general rule for dual-boot: ALWAYS install windows first and then linux, just make sure you left enough space for yr linux installation to breathe
[09:30] <magus_> hadar, : whats the problem?
[09:30] <majorMatarrese> hadar, what's the problem, then?
[09:30] <DonLemmi> natan-: disable the TCP feature in the config
[09:30] <mathieu_> umsteiger: I have usblp  usbcore  usblp,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd
[09:30] <acojlo> linove, they are part of something outside of microsoft - they are working but each of them have different styles and some of them have commercial licenses
[09:30] <hadar> that's just... grr... i managed to install it on two other computers. except mine!
[09:30] <acojlo> linovice, read before this message
[09:30] <hadar> majorMatarrese: no installation workds for me
[09:30] <natan-> DonLemmi - any idea what loction that is in?
[09:30] <dooglus> natan-: put "DisallowTCP=true" in your /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[09:30] <natan-> thansk
[09:30] <majorMatarrese> hadar, are you gettng error messages?  Come, man tell us what you saw!
[09:30] <mrDaniel> eclipse has no out-of-the-box support for svn. now I have found three plug-ins: Subversive, Subclipse and TortoiseSVN. which plugin I should use? which is the 'best' or most advanced svn-plugin?
[09:31] <hadar> majorMatarrese: 4 live cd's didn;t work for me, worked for other computers. i get errors when trying to install from USB or windows
[09:31] <hadar> and i don't want to try the net install..
[09:31] <azureal> hi, i'm getting a "WARNING: terminal is not fully functional" ...any reason for this?
[09:31] <dooglus> when I use vnc-server to remotely connect, everything is too small to read.  any idea how to fix that?
[09:31] <alxarch> linovice: a good practice should be to format your windows partition using fat instead of ntfs in order to be able to read AND write to it from within linux
[09:31] <majorMatarrese> hadar, what is the EXACT problem you're having?  "It doesn't work" won't help me help you
[09:31] <DarkPhantom> I'm trying to find some kind of a web interface for managing packages, services, and possibly more .. does anyone know of something that works well with ubuntu?
[09:31] <hadar> majorMatarrese:\
[09:32] <azureal> alxarch: or just have a bit FAT partition called 'share'
[09:32] <hadar> majorMatarrese : on usb install: "can't find /casper/.vim". on thorugh windows install (on boot): "hal.dll is corrupted" (somthing like that
[09:32] <DonLemmi> DarkPhantom: webmin
[09:32] <ardchoille> !webmin
[09:32] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[09:32] <alxarch> yes that too
[09:32] <harisund> DarkPhantom I don't know about a web interface. Synaptic works pretty well. Any particular reason you are looking for a web-only interface?
[09:32] <harisund> DonLemmi does webmin allow for package management ?
[09:32] <nothing>  /quit
[09:32] <azureal> i meant big* instead of bit
[09:32] <majorMatarrese> hadar: ok, pull the HDD out of that computer (if possible) and put it in one of the other computers and try that
[09:32] <nothing> quit
[09:32] <harisund> nothing wrong slash
[09:33] <azureal> FAT < NTFS for windows
[09:33] <excitatory> don't use webmin.. it sucks..
[09:33] <DonLemmi> harisund: I believe so, yes
[09:33] <harisund> ah ok ... nice.
[09:33] <excitatory> i'm having strange dpkg errors when attempting to install anything.  Here is an excerpt of the error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20136
[09:33] <hadar> majorMatarrese ?
[09:33] <adri_> alxarch: you can't help me?
[09:33] <DonLemmi> But if its deprecated, better dont use it
[09:34] <natan-> dooglus : how do i restart the x11?
[09:34] <rsk> ctrl alt shift
[09:34] <DonLemmi> Anyone here uses ubuntu in a corporate environment?
[09:34] <dooglus> natan-: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[09:34] <harisund> excitatory: are you using sudo?
[09:34] <tim_zygote> Has anybody had trouble trying to make Cubase SX install/work with Wine?
[09:34] <excitatory> harisund: of course
[09:34] <harisund> excitatory: seems to be a permission problem? "Permission Denied" .. ok ..
[09:34] <majorMatarrese> hadar: remove the hard drive from the problem computer and put it in one of the working ones.  Install from the working one, then replace the drive back to the problem machine.  With any luck you should have a working install
[09:34] <excitatory> harisund: yea.. i cannot figure it out..
[09:34] <harisund> excitatory: try 'sudo apt-get -f install' .. the -f attempts to fix stuff?
[09:35] <DarkPhantom> harisund: well .. its a headless server .. easier if I can do it through http ..
[09:35] <harisund> DarkPhantom: ah ok ... personally I prefer the command line, but yeah http would be easier indeed..
[09:35] <rsk> tim_zygote: why dont you try iy?
[09:35] <majorMatarrese> hadar: will you try that?
[09:35] <Shinzetsu> is it able to change drive letters? (sda, sdb, etc,)
[09:35] <tim_zygote> rsk: what's iy? I'm new to Linux etc.
[09:35] <umsteiger> @mathieu_: I tried those modules, still no luck ...
[09:36] <azureal> so, any reason for "WARNING: terminal is not fully functional" ?
[09:36] <rsk> it
[09:36] <yalu> I installed network-manager-gnome. in the "nm-applet" man page it says that instructions on how to put the applet in the gnome panel are in /usr/share/doc/network-manager/README.Debian. but that file does not exist!
[09:36] <majorMatarrese> !iy
[09:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about iy - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:36] <natan-> is there a console command to restart the computer?
[09:36] <rsk> i spelled it out wrong
[09:36] <harisund> Shinzetsu: not to my knowledge. I think they are labelled by the kernel itself.
[09:36] <yalu> so where are the usage instructions then?
[09:36] <harisund> natan-: reboot :)
[09:36] <ardchoille> natan-: sudo shutdown -r now
[09:36] <rsk> tim_zygote: goto #winehq
[09:36] <azureal> natan-: sudo shutdown -r now
[09:36] <azureal> =P
[09:36] <Nimwei> Which file do I edit for the startup programs?
[09:36] <harisund> Nimwei: startup means what? When you login or when the computer boots?
[09:36] <tim_zygote> I've tried installing it with wine and stuff, but it gets to like, 91% then just goes *It's dodgy*...It worked fine on my Mac and Laptop
[09:37] <owen_> how do i "enable" c++ development in eclipse?
[09:37] <tim_zygote> Will do now
[09:37] <mathieu_> umsteiger: check out the modules listed on this page : http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-5151.html
[09:37] <farous> owen_: there is a plugin for it
[09:37] <can-o-worms> can anyone tell me why i can't ssh in from outside?
[09:37] <Nimwei> harisund - Whatever file i need to edit to include a program to startup with the computer...like a service.
[09:38] <ardchoille> !ssh
[09:38] <Nimwei> Probably the boot file..because I don't want to have to login for my webserver and everything else to run.
[09:38] <harisund> Nimwei: if it is required to start a service/program on computer boot time, add it in /etc/rc.loal
[09:38] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[09:38] <harisund> Nimwei: /etc/rc.local
[09:38] <phenex> Nimwei, you may want to check out the package sysv-rc-conf
[09:38] <Nimwei> harisund - Thanks.  I'm going to put x11vnc in the bootup file.
[09:38] <umsteiger> @mathieu_: Ok, looks like I have to do some more investigation ... thanks for your help
[09:38] <ardchoille> phenex: *that* is a nice app
[09:38] <excitatory> harisund: the only thing i can think of is that to better secure my box, i'm now mounting several of my partitions 'nosuid'..  (/home, /tmp, and /var)  could that be doing it?
[09:38] <harisund> Nimwei: Now that's something I am not sure if it would work. Try it out and check.
[09:38] <phenex> Nimwei, i think that is what you are looking for
[09:38] <jatt> can-o-worms: have you already tried with ssh -vv ?
[09:38] <Nimwei> phenex - I'm downloading it now.
[09:38] <Nimwei> Thanks for the suggestion.
[09:39] <harisund> excitatory: can't say for sure. Sorry :(
[09:39] <excitatory> alright, well thanks anyway
[09:39] <phenex> Nimwei, ok, then ask about runlevels if you don't get it
[09:39] <Spydon> how do you install soundcards that the live cd didnt install when i installed ubuntu?
[09:39] <phenex> ardchoille, yeah, beats manually doing it all
[09:39] <Nimwei> phenex - does it have a GUI or is it command based?
[09:40] <phenex> Nimwei, it is ncurses based, so gui on the command line :)
[09:40] <Nimwei> ooh nice :)
[09:40] <can-o-worms> jatt: what is the second v for?
[09:40] <phenex> Nimwei, start from command line ... it's good for accessing over ssh etc too
[09:40] <owen_> is there a better disk management program?
[09:40] <can-o-worms> ardchoille: maybe you should read the howto yourself
[09:40] <trappist> owen_: better than what.
[09:41] <Nimwei> runlevel S is startup?
[09:41] <Nimwei> Go ahead and explain the different runlevels for me.
[09:41] <phenex> Nimwei, course, the hard part is knowing what services you want to start at boot up
[09:41] <jatt> can-o-worms: you can have different debug levels depending on the numbers of 'v's you append
[09:41] <Spydon> Do anyone know how i install a soundcard that the live cd didnt instal when i installed ubuntu?
[09:41] <owen_> is there a program that works better than file browser to view your disks?
[09:41] <harisund> Nimwei: there is no runlevel 'S' . Instead what is there is run at every run level .
[09:41] <can-o-worms> jatt: i just get a connection refused
[09:41] <trappist> can-o-worms: check -v in the ssh man page
[09:41] <shuveb|home> i have a celeron 1.1 GHz based system, cant remember what motherboard it is. i have installed dapper drake and the system freezes at random times. are there any known issues? I have a gentoo installation on another partition and that works fine.
[09:41] <phenex> Nimwei, first, do you know what services you want to disable?
[09:41] <phenex> Nimwei, i have a good-ish link here somewhere ...
[09:41] <harisund> Nimwei: what are you trying to do, if I am not intruding?
[09:42] <Nimwei> I just want to enable x11vnc primarily.
[09:42] <shuveb|home> there are 2 installed kernels after i updated the system.... both are problematic
[09:42] <Nimwei> And be able to add different programs and services to start-up when I install them.
[09:42] <can-o-worms> jatt: does ubuntu block outside ip addresses by default?
[09:42] <trappist> can-o-worms: not with a firewall - it just doesn't listen on external interfaces by default
[09:42] <maarvins1> anybody, please how can i cancel softmounted folder, i did that with ln -s and now cant remove it!!!! :(
[09:42] <maarvins1> please
[09:42] <Spydon> Plz. Do anyone know how i install a soundcard that the live cd didnt instal when i installed ubuntu?
[09:42] <jatt> can-o-worms: AFAIK no.
[09:42] <harisund> Nimwei: there is one application called update-rc.d which creates the symlinks in the required run levels.
[09:42] <syke> flannel: http://pastebin.ca/124026
[09:43] <iter> if I "connect to a remote server" via the places menu, where is the actual mountpoint located?
[09:43] <trappist> maarvins1: omit the trailing slash
[09:43] <finalbeta> !openoffice
[09:43] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org".
[09:43] <syke> sorry it took so long, pastebin.com was fuqdup
[09:43] <finalbeta> !spelcheck
[09:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about spelcheck - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:43] <azureal> what's a soft mount?
[09:43] <can-o-worms> trappist: how do i change that, there doesn't seem to be anything obvious in sshd_config
[09:43] <finalbeta> how do I get descend spellchecking in openoffice? Can it be done?
[09:43] <trappist> can-o-worms: change what
[09:43] <maarvins1> trappist: what do you mean?
[09:43] <azureal> decent? in what lang?
[09:43] <maarvins1> what would be the syntax?
[09:43] <finalbeta> azureal, dutch
[09:44] <maarvins1> _ ln -s source / ?
[09:44] <can-o-worms> trappist: you said -> it just doesn't listen on external interfaces by default
[09:44] <trappist> maarvins1: rm symlink instead of rm symlink/
[09:44] <can-o-worms> trappist: so how do i fix that?
[09:44] <azureal> first of all, check out #openoffice.org
[09:44] <maarvins1> oki
[09:44] <maarvins1> thanks
[09:44] <finalbeta> oki
[09:44] <azureal> while i think about =)
[09:44] <azureal> it*
[09:44] <trappist> can-o-worms: ssh might be an exception, but the line you want is ListenAddress.  0.0.0.0 means everything.
[09:45] <maarvins1> trappist: it says cant remove it a directory !!!!\
[09:45] <phenex> harisund, yeah update-rc.d will come in handy , since he won't find X11vnc on sysv-rc-conf otherwise
[09:45] <phenex> :)
[09:45] <Spydon> How do i install a soundcard?? I have no sound, because the live cd didnt install my soundcard :'(
[09:45] <trappist> maarvins1: it'll only say that if a) you put the trailing slash on the symlink or b) you're trying to remove the real directory
[09:45] <iter> if I use the places menu to connect to a smb share, the icon appears on the desktop
[09:45] <iter> but where is it actually mounted?
[09:45] <azureal> lol
[09:45] <iter> it's not on the desktop that's for sure
[09:45] <phenex> Spydon, are you sure it wasn't installed? look at 'dmesg' and 'lspci'
[09:46] <phenex> Spydon, i mean to make sure it was detected
[09:46] <trappist> iter: I'm not sure it's actually mounted at all
[09:46] <maarvins1> firstly i made a directory pharc and thenn softmounter another directory to it
[09:46] <iter> mm that would make sense
[09:46] <maarvins1> yeah its a true directory
[09:46] <trappist> maarvins1: what do you mean softmount
[09:46] <harisund> phenex:  you need to have the service in /etc/init.d/ first if you want to use update-rc.d If x11vnc isn't in /etc/init.d/ update-rc.d isn't going to see it either.
[09:46] <maarvins1> ln -s source destination
[09:46] <phenex> harisund, aye
[09:47] <trappist> maarvins1: that's a symlink, not a softmount.  you're trying to delete the original directory, or the link you created?
[09:47] <maarvins1> i need to remove link i created
[09:47] <maarvins1> oh sorry, know i wil now its a simlink
[09:47] <trappist> maarvins1: then rm <thesymlink> without a trailing slash
[09:47] <azureal> can't you just use 'rm' to remove a link?!
[09:47] <can-o-worms> trappist: that didn't help... what should hosts.allow look like?
[09:48] <maarvins1> nope he told me its a directory
[09:48] <trappist> azureal: yeah but if it's a link to a directory it'll give you a hard time if you tab complete and get a trailing slash
[09:48] <narak_> what kernel does ubuntu come with out of the bix?
[09:48] <narak_> *box
[09:48] <phenex> narak_, linux
[09:48] <phenex> :)
[09:48] <narak_> hrhr
[09:48] <Spydon> phenex i can here "system error sounds" or what they are called, the beeps but no other sound
[09:48] <iter> 2.6.14 for dapper
[09:48] <narak_> thx
[09:48] <trappist> maarvins1: then either it IS a directory (not a symlink) or you have a trailing slash.  what does this say: ls -ld whateveryouretryingtodelete
[09:48] <azureal> trappist: my links and directories are color-coded =P
[09:49] <trappist> azureal: me too
[09:49] <azureal> .: no problem =)
[09:49] <phenex> Spydon, yeah that's the beeps through your computer speaker i'd say, not through soundcard
[09:49] <gnomefreak> iter: 2.6.15 dapper
[09:49] <trappist> iter: 2.6.15
[09:49] <phenex> Spydon, do the 'lspci' command in a terminal
[09:49] <trappist> I lose
[09:49] <azureal> Spydon... in the livecd... is it gnome?
[09:50] <maarvins1> ls -ls says drwxr-xr-x 20 maarvins maarvins 4096 date time
[09:50] <maarvins1> nothing more
[09:50] <HeXiOn> hello
[09:50] <maarvins1> rm <pathtosymdir> didnt worked out :(
[09:50] <FurryNemesis> is anyone running ubuntu on 224 - 256 mb of RAM and if so does it run smoothly?
[09:50] <harisund> maarvins1: what are you trying to remove?
[09:50] <azureal> do you know how to use 'rm' ???
[09:51] <phenex> Spydon, actually do 'lspci | grep audio' and tell me if anything comes up
[09:51] <harisund> maarvins1: is it a single file or a symlink or a directory?
[09:51] <maarvins1> symlink i created
[09:51] <Spydon> ok
[09:51] <Pulshion> Does anyone know why video and sound works in mplayer but only sound works in VLC thanx
[09:51] <owen_> does anyone know of a music production program, like fruity loops, ableton live 5, sony acid pro 6, cubase?
[09:51] <Jman888> Does anybody know how to make Win4lin Run In a bigger screen. Or fullscreen
[09:51] <maarvins1> its a directory
[09:51] <harisund> maarvins1: how did you create the symlink?
[09:51] <azureal> exactly..
[09:51] <maarvins1> firstly i created a directory then i ln -s another direvtory
[09:51] <harisund> maarvins1: I mean, can you type the command you used?
[09:51] <HeXiOn> I want to be able to execute a script who requieres root privileges with no-root users.... I've made  [ sudo chmod +s XXXXX]  but it still asks me for password :( What should I do?
[09:51] <maarvins1> ln -s source destination
[09:51] <Spydon> nope nothing comes up
[09:51] <maarvins1> here it is
[09:51] <harisund> yes/
[09:51] <Nimwei> phenex - Sorry, I had to run outside for a few moments.
[09:52] <phenex> Spydon, it was working with another OS, ie Windows?
[09:52] <mjr> HeXiOn, scripts cannot be suid for security reasons
[09:52] <harisund> maarvins1: do one thing. Post the output of ls -l on pastebin or something?
[09:52] <phenex> Nimwei, cool
[09:52] <Spydon> yes it wa phenex
[09:52] <Spydon> was*
[09:52] <phenex> not like you're paying me :)
[09:52] <HeXiOn> mjr, its a binary, not a script (sorry)
[09:52] <Nimwei> Hehe.
[09:52] <trappist> maarvins1: did you do what I said, with ls -ld
[09:52] <Nimwei> I missed everything you had said..so I'll just figure out out to spare you from repeatin git.
[09:52] <phenex> Spydon, what is your soundcard?
[09:53] <HeXiOn> mjr, its /usr/bin/irexec  (for LIR)
[09:53] <Pulshion> Does anyone know why video and sound works in mplayer but only sound works in VLC thanx
[09:53] <Spydon> is some integrated shit
[09:53] <Spydon> its*
[09:53] <HeXiOn> LIRC
[09:53] <Spydon> damn i suck in english :P
[09:53] <maarvins1> trappist: 	ls -ls says drwxr-xr-x 20 maarvins maarvins 4096 date time this is the reply
[09:53] <phenex> Nimwei, well, basically stuff you don't want to load , take all the X's away .. but know what you are disabling
[09:53] <gnomefreak> Spydon: please watch your language this is a family channel
[09:53] <maarvins1> ls - ld
[09:53] <micahcowan> !language
[09:53] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:53] <phenex> Spydon, ah right i see
[09:53] <harisund> maarvins1: that would mean you have no symlink?
[09:54] <magus_> hello, i need to know where i can get the lastest version of flash for linux, and how update mozzila, i dont know :(
[09:54] <Pntkl> sup
[09:54] <gh0zt> yo
[09:54] <Pntkl`> Hi
[09:54] <trappist> maarvins1: you're operating on the directory, not the symlink.
[09:54] <phenex> Spydon, if i knew more about it, i could find out if there is a module available or something
[09:54] <Jman888> Is there a linux Irc program that has a fserve in it?
[09:54] <gnomefreak> magus_: if you are refering to flash 8 thereis no build for linux
[09:54] <maarvins1> so how can i remove that link?
[09:54] <Pntkl`> you tell me ;)
[09:54] <Pntkl> I'll soon find out
[09:54] <HeXiOn> unlink archive
[09:54] <gh0zt> secret
[09:54] <maarvins1> just to delete a directory?
[09:54] <shpond> yo
[09:54] <Spydon> ok...
[09:54] <FurryNemesis> !amrok
[09:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about amrok - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:55] <magus_> gnomefreak, : i mean flash plugin
[09:55] <phenex> Spydon, find out in windows
[09:55] <harisund> maarvins1: I think you never created the link in the first plac.e
[09:55] <phenex> Spydon, device manager or something
[09:55] <Spydon> i don't have windows no more :P
[09:55] <Pulshion> Does anyone know why video and sound works in mplayer but only sound works in VLC thanx
[09:55] <byteshack> can someone help me with xubuntu+freenx?
[09:55] <phenex> Spydon, heh
[09:55] <trappist> maarvins1: you have to find the link.  then just rm it.
[09:55] <gnomefreak> magus_: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree but as i said its v 7
[09:55] <maarvins1> okey
[09:55] <byteshack> I'm trying to connect from a windows box, but I don't seem to be able to
[09:55] <trappist> maarvins1: if you really want to delete the directory, rm -rf
[09:55] <harisund> byteshack: how are you trying to connect?
[09:55] <phenex> Spydon, hmm i really don't know then
[09:55] <shpond> I'll find out
[09:55] <HeXiOn> mjr, please tell me, is it possible to execute a binary in /usr/bin with non-root users??
[09:55] <byteshack> I have the windows nx client
[09:55] <Spydon> hmm okay thx anyway
[09:55] <tcpip> anyone who can help me with pppoe probs
[09:56] <trappist> HeXiOn: depends
[09:56] <phenex> Spydon, you have to find out about the sound card
[09:56] <Spydon> ok
[09:56] <trappist> HeXiOn: mostly, yes
[09:56] <phenex> Spydon, then i'm sure it can be made to work
[09:56] <HeXiOn> trappist, and what should I do?
[09:56] <Spydon> how can i find out more about it then? :P
[09:56] <harisund> byteshack: ok you are using nx? How did you install FreeNXon your Ubuntu machine? I mean, did you read it online?
[09:56] <trappist> HeXiOn: you just run it.  if it says no, it probably has to run as root.
[09:56] <HeXiOn> chmod +s doesn't work :S
[09:56] <Nimwei> Phenex - I don't want to disable anything per se..I just want to ENABLE x11vnc to start-up with my system.  It's not listed in the sysv-rc-conf.
[09:56] <phenex> Spydon, good question
[09:56] <byteshack> yes, I did
[09:57] <harisund> byteshack: yes you did what?
[09:57] <byteshack> I added the seveas repo do my aptconf
[09:57] <Spydon> hehe
[09:57] <HeXiOn> trappist, it's the LIRC daemon... so it should be left to run :(
[09:57] <harisund> byteshack: okgreat. and then you just did 'sudo apt-get install freenx' ?
[09:57] <HeXiOn> but it doesn't :(
[09:57] <aloisio> hello, i wanna know if somebody here have already experienced problems with LEAP authentication using wpa_supplicant and madwifi driver
[09:57] <iq> Hi, I got a new Video card in a PC. Now my x-windows does not start. I can log into command shell. How do I reconfigure my x-windows?
[09:57] <byteshack> well, I used aptitude's find: freenx to install it
[09:57] <troytroy> 7:57pm GMT good evening folks
[09:57] <trappist> it may not daemonize by default.  look for an init script in /etc/init.d
[09:57] <phenex> Nimwei, yeah, you need a startup script for it in /etc/init.d
[09:57] <byteshack> but yes, essentially that's what I did
[09:58] <micahcowan> HeXiOn, I don't think you necessarily wanted chmod +s... what's the binary, and what does ls -l on it look like?
[09:58] <harisund> byteshack: (please do mention my name in your replies, else I am likely to miss it). Ok where did you get your NX windows client?
[09:58] <Nimwei> Ok, cool. I'll look at other scripts in that directory and create one. Thanks for the tips.
[09:58] <HeXiOn> rx rx rx
[09:58] <byteshack> harisund: ok, I will, thanks
[09:58] <phenex> Nimwei, one probably came with it
[09:58] <HeXiOn> its the first I did, but doen't work
[09:58] <fli7e> Hey guys, I'm having a little trouble getting my wireless card to work. Previously I had been able to modprobe ndiswrapper and do iwconfig/dhclient to get it running, but it's now detected under ubuntu. I assume I can skip the modprobe step and go right to iwconfig, but it isn't working. any ideas?
[09:58] <HeXiOn> irexec: could not connect to socket
[09:58] <HeXiOn> irexec: Permission denied
[09:58] <byteshack> harisund: I got the client fron nomachine
[09:58] <Blissex> fli7e: change card, usually it is the easiest.
[09:58] <phenex> Nimwei, you probably only have to put it in /etc/init.d , if it isn't already there
[09:58] <harisund> ah ok byteshack Just that when my nick is mentioned the line is highlighted and I can track it easliy.
[09:58] <fli7e> blissex, it's a laptop... not an option
[09:58] <harisund> byteshack: there's a problem
[09:59] <troytroy> i just used the dapper live to permanently install ubuntu as guest os on vmware. installation did not ask me for root password. how do i su as root to perform admin tasks pls
[09:59] <harisund> byteshack: the no machine client is 2.0 and the freenx server on seveas' repo is 1.5 you will need to change your windows client.
[09:59] <hadar> i tried all, really. i dont know what to do execpt to replace my computer ..
[09:59] <Blissex> !tell troytroy about root
[09:59] <micahcowan> HeXiOn, there's no permissions problem with that... /anyone/ can execute it. What exactly is the error you get?
[09:59] <fli7e> I guess what I am asking is what is the command I need to use (if any) before iwconfig?
[09:59] <byteshack> harisund: ah... can I get an older client from nomachine?
[09:59] <harisund> byteshack: download your nomachine client from : http://downloads.zdnet.co.uk/0,39025604,39153612s,00.htm
[09:59] <adri_> hi everybody. i want to install the driver for my wifi. i downloaded it. It's the drivers for linux and it is in a zip file. But i don't pass to install the drivers. Please tell me what's the command i've to put in the console. please help me
[09:59] <micahcowan> Oh, irexec is the binary you're trying to execute?
[10:00] <byteshack> harisund: or do you suggest installing the server from them?
[10:00] <Blissex> fli7e: 'modprobe' or equivalent...
[10:00] <billy> hello
[10:00] <iq> Anyone knows how to reconfigure X-windows for new grphics Card? Please help...
[10:00] <Fondor1> Hi
[10:00] <harisund> byteshack: nomachine doesn't have it any more. And installing the srver from them has some dependancy problems. stick with seveas' repo server and the nxclient I gave you.
[10:00] <billy> i have a problem when trying to open txt files with gedit
[10:00] <mwe> iq: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:00] <hadar> can any1 help me install ubuntu not from liveCD?
[10:00] <HeXiOn> micahcowan, I think I got it.... its not that file's fault, its the /dev.... I should do  [chmod 666 /dev/lircd] 
[10:00] <HeXiOn> I'm trying :)
[10:00] <fli7e> Blissex, what should I be modprobing? previously it was ndiswrapper, but now that ubuntu detects my card without that module i'm not sure what to use.
[10:00] <gfxstyler> hi
[10:01] <harisund> byteshack: that atleast works and works fast enough. And one more thing, how 'far away' in network terms is your linux box? I mean is it behind a router  / firewall / on another subnet?
[10:01] <hadar> every installation i tried can't read the CD. graphic or none graphic.
[10:01] <iq> thanks mwe :)
[10:01] <magus__> well
[10:01] <gfxstyler> can i convert a windows ntfs partition to fat32 without loosing data/re-formatting?
[10:01] <mwe> iq yw
[10:01] <gfxstyler> without partitionmagic/any other commercial app?
[10:01] <byteshack> harisund: all of the above :)
[10:01] <billy> it says it indicates the file content says its plain text document but its extension is txt wich indicates its a txt document??? im really confused
[10:01] <Fondor1> Billy:  what does the program do?
[10:01] <mwe> gfxstyler: I think not
[10:01] <MagusX> where i can get the lastest version of flashplugin for linux?
[10:01] <mhv> hi, can anyone elaborate on what an apic error in my syslog means? it seems to cause one or the other crash...
[10:01] <gfxstyler> mwe: damn
[10:01] <micahcowan> HeXiOn, making it world-readable may not be the best solution... if it's already readable to a particular group, it might be better to add yourself to the proper group...
[10:01] <byteshack> harisund: I'm behind a firewall here, but I can ssh to the box where I have installed freenx
[10:01] <gfxstyler> mwe: why can only commercial apps do it ?
[10:01] <Fondor1> Billy: they are the same thing.
[10:01] <adri_> hi everybody. i want to install the driver for my wifi. i downloaded it. It's the drivers for linux and it is in a zip file. But i don't pass to install the drivers. Please tell me what's the command i've to put in the console. please help me
[10:01] <natan-> could the fact that i can't telnet to servers on port 6000 have to do with the fact that x11 is using that port?
[10:01] <mwe> gfxstyler: it works the other way around though
[10:02] <umsteiger> @mathieu_: Whoot ... on my next try nautilus freezed ... and then again, repeatedly ... however I got it to work, the only thing I must not do is using the display's usb-hub
[10:02] <Blissex> fli7e: detect the card is easy, loading the right driver not. But try 'iwlist scan'
[10:02] <natan-> if i do grep '6000' /etc/services i get told that x11 is using port 6000
[10:02] <hadar> mathieu_: can u help me install from usb stick ?
[10:02] <mwe> gfxstyler: I guess they are making money selling the software 
[10:02] <gfxstyler> mwe: i want to install ubuntu on my gf s laptop but it has one big ntfs partition
[10:02] <HeXiOn> ok, thanks for your help :)
[10:02] <mwe> gfxstyler: yes
[10:02] <HeXiOn> bye
[10:02] <mwe> gfxstyler: the installer can resize it
[10:02] <harisund> byteshack: ok that means the firewall has port 22 forwarded appropriately. that's good, but remember one thing on your Windows client. You will have to enable 'ssl encryption' in your WInows client, else it wouldnt work since it will try to connect on port 22 and some random higher port which of course will be bloked by the firewall. Make sure your 'SSL Encryption' is enabled in the Windows client.
[10:02] <byteshack> harisund: I seem to not be able to download the client.  NoMachine is reporing something that looks like a file-not-found
[10:03] <gfxstyler> mwe: but then you can not write on the ntfs partition, i want it to be shared between windows and linux
[10:03] <harisund> byteshack: did you download it from the url I gave you?
[10:03] <Fondor1> Billy:  Can you still open the document anyway?  It just tells you that it's a plan text with a .txt extension?
[10:03] <tcpip> problems with ppp connections reconnecting at will
[10:03] <harisund> byteshack: http://downloads.zdnet.co.uk/0,39025604,39153612s,00.htm
[10:03] <mwe> gfxstyler: how much free space does it have?
[10:03] <hadar> can any1 help me install ubuntu ?
[10:03] <adri_> hi everybody. i want to install the driver for my wifi. i downloaded it. It's the drivers for linux and it is in a zip file. But i don't pass to install the drivers. Please tell me what's the command i've to put in the console. please help me
[10:03] <fli7e> Blissex, already tried that. My card does not support scanning. is that evidence ubuntu tried loading the wrong driver?
[10:03] <fli7e> *may have loaded
[10:03] <byteshack> harisund: let's see if wget does better than firefox...
[10:03] <gfxstyler> mwe: 60-70 gigs ?
[10:04] <harisund> byteshack: if you are not able to download I will give yu another linnk.
[10:04] <byteshack> harisund: the link took me to a page where I had to click on a different link
[10:04] <byteshack> harisund: and that 2nd link was a NoMachine redirect
[10:04] <harisund> byteshack: http://www.cct.lsu.edu/~hsunda3/My%20Downloads/nxclient-1.5.0-138.exe
[10:04] <harisund> byteshack: use wget
[10:04] <mwe> gfxstyler: I was thinking of schrinking the ntfs partition and create a fat32 partition. then use the fat partition for shared data
[10:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !NTFS > gfxstyler:
[10:05] <gfxstyler> Jack_Sparrow: no worky :)
[10:05] <michaeljb2008> any know the ubuntu repository for the kiba dock program
[10:05] <Jack_Sparrow> obviously...  writing to ntfs will eventually make you very sad..
[10:05] <Blissex> fli7e: perhaps, wrong driver. But all WiFi card support scanning.
[10:05] <gfxstyler> Jack_Sparrow: so true
[10:06] <harisund> byteshack: the last url I gave you is housed on my account at school. And how are you using wget on Windows? Cygwin?
[10:06] <wweasel> Hey everyone. I'm pretty sure this is possible, but I have no idea how to go about it. I have an LCD monitor that can be flipped vertically.  Is there any way I could a) make my screen 768x1024 vertical and b) make it switch by a keyboard shortcut? I would need someone to guide me through this.
[10:06] <byteshack> yes, I have cygwin on my win box
[10:06] <Blissex> fli7e: try 'lsmod' to see if there is what looks like a WiFi driver loaded. To check which card it is, 'lspci'. Also try 'cat /proc/devices'
[10:06] <fli7e> Blissex, i assumed as much, but that's the message it's giving me. I'm going to keep digging at this, thanks for your help
[10:06] <byteshack> harisund: sorry, yeah, I use cygwin on the win box
[10:06] <billy> :(
[10:06] <mwe> gfxstyler: how often do you need to write to the ntfs partition. you could just create a fat partition for the shared stuff
[10:07] <Blissex> wweasel: you can do that only on some graphics cards, and you lose a lot of speed. However have a look at 'man xrandr'
[10:07] <gfxstyler> mwe: its not for me
 i now they are the same
 but i wont let me open them without gedit root
 saying it could be a harm to my system
 and only open if you are the maker of the files
 well i can with gedit root, but i have a program that automatically opens a .txt file and saves it, but it cant open it
[10:07] <harisund> byteshack: sweet :) Do you run any service on your Cygwin? Using cygrnsrv? Then it might clash with the NX client .
 saying file could not be opened
[10:07] <Jack_Sparrow> gfxstyler: Or put XP on a fat 32
 and when i double click this msgbox popups
 i, send it
 one sec
[10:07] <Intelligitimate> I am having trouble with my time. It keeps jumping an hour ahead of where it should be.
[10:07] <harisund> !enter
[10:07] <Intelligitimate> How do I stop that?
[10:07] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[10:07] <byteshack> harisund: no, no services
[10:07] <hadar> Jack_Sparrow: do u think u can help me.. i don't know what to do anymore.. i un installed mandriva for ubuntu..
[10:07] <harisund> byteshack: Ok cool. Never mind though. Are you able to download the client?
[10:07] <byteshack> harisund: I did notice that the first time that I ran it, it had some name conflicts and it asked me if I wanted to rename the cygwin dlls
[10:07] <Jack_Sparrow> hadar: You have a hardware problem...
[10:08] <wweasel> Blissex: By speed, do you mean I couldn't play 3D games in 768x1024 mode? I just want to use it for word processing, etc.
[10:08] <George> how do I install additional bitmap fonts I have?
[10:08] <Jack_Sparrow> hadar: Issue at best
[10:08] <byteshack> harisund: yes, I downloaded the .exe, I'm uninstalling the other one
[10:08] <yeti> hi, i installed ubuntu on a reiserfs partition. after rebooting, grub says filesystem type unknown, could not mount. why? does the ubuntu-distributed grub not support reiserfs? if so, why could i chose to install on reiser in the first place?
[10:08] <George> ie - .pcf.gz
[10:08] <Nimwei> Ok, so am I correct in saying that ANY file listed in the INIT.D folder gets executed upon system boot?
[10:08] <SanketMedhi> did I just read EXE ?:S
[10:08] <hadar> Jack_Sparrow: i know.. but there are so many ways to install..also i installed other OS like mandriva...
[10:08] <cavediver> Hello. How do I setup bluetooth so I can surf using grps on my mobile.
[10:08] <harisund> Nimwei: no.
[10:08] <billy> i cant open txt files without gedit root :( , it pops the same error message all the time
[10:08] <Jack_Sparrow> hadar: Does your pc boot from the cd?  any cd?
[10:08] <SurfnKid> i wonder if i could use bluetooth as a gateway
[10:09] <Blissex> wweasel: 2D speed is also greatly affected. Usually it is still fairly usable.
[10:09] <azureal> George: .pcf.gz fonts can go in /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc
[10:09] <wirelain> For a 6.06 desktop load, after adding lice cd user when the screen goes away, how long does it usually take to come up with something?
[10:09] <billy> can upload to imgschack
[10:09] <BrokenPipe> I'm having problems with my nvidia drivers.  I upgraded my kernel to linux-image-686 (I have a dual core P4), and it installed linux-image-2.6.15-26-686.  I also installed linux-headers-686, which installed linux-headers-2.6.15-26-686 and then linux-headers-2.6.15-26.  I then re-installed nvidia-kernel-common which installed linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-686.  I've tried all this several time, making sure to uninstall all othe
[10:09] <Blissex> George: that is somewhat involved...
[10:09] <Jack_Sparrow> hadar: Have you done the self test on the cd.. NOT just tried it on another system
[10:09] <wirelain> SurfnKid: bluetooth is very short range.
[10:09] <George> azureal: I thought so
[10:09] <yey> :)
[10:09] <George> azureal: my system doesn't appear to recongnise them
[10:09] <azureal> George: then sudo mkfontdir, then xset fp rehash
[10:09] <harisund> byteshack: any luck?
[10:10] <mwe> it's not. put it in /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc && sudo mkfontdir /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc && xset fp rehash
[10:10] <Blissex> George: you need to run 'mkfontdir' and a few other things. And don't put user stuff in '/usr', only '/usr/local'.
[10:10] <yey> I'm trying to compile gaim-2.0.0beta3 and I receive an errmsg: configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[10:10] <yey> could you help me with that?
[10:10] <Nimwei> harisund - Ok, so how do I push that script into the things that ARE executed upon startup? It is not listed in the sysv-conf.
[10:10] <billy> http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/7497/help1rh1.png
[10:10] <byteshack> harisund: gime a sec, this pos box is foobared.  I have no admin priviledes, they have this "sudo" thing going... but sucks... the imitation is BAD
[10:10] <mwe> George: what I suggested will work
[10:11] <harisund> byteshack: What box? They have sudo in Windows?
[10:11] <byteshack> harisund: yes they do, and some admin put it on my box... so I have to run thing that way
[10:11] <byteshack> harisund: but the win sudo sucks
[10:11] <can-o-wo1ms> can someone tell me if my port 22 is open at 220.11.164.7 ?
[10:11] <billy> windows sudo?
[10:11] <harisund> byteshack: oh yeah I can imagine that. lolo .
[10:11] <azureal> mwe: were you the one who helped me that one time?
[10:11] <yey> mwe: could you help me? I get an error msg: "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH" after ./configure
[10:11] <azureal> mwe: w/ fonts? =P
[10:11] <mwe> azureal: I think so yes
[10:12] <micahcowan> can-o-wo1ms, yes
[10:12] <wweasel> Blissex: XRandR tells me that no rotations are possible. I guess I would need to set that up in xorg.conf?
[10:12] <harisund> can-o-wo1ms: yeah it is open.
[10:12] <crimsun> yey: aptitude install build-essential
[10:12] <mwe> yeti: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:12] <harisund> I just logged in. I mean, it asked me for my password.
[10:12] <mwe> yey: ^^
[10:12] <excitatory> can-o-wo1ms: yea, it's open
[10:12] <Tune> Hi I need help on my display properties, It doesn't show me any high resolution
[10:12] <Jack_Sparrow> can-o-worms:  Use http://www.grc.com/intro.htm  to test all ports
[10:12] <can-o-wo1ms> micahcowan: harisund what happens if you try to ssh into it?
[10:12] <Blissex> wweasel: then your video driver just does not support it.
[10:12] <harisund> can-o-wo1ms: well, it asks me for my password?
[10:12] <Nimwei> Tune, does your monitor support high resolutions?
[10:12] <George> mwe: they aren't appearing
[10:12] <hadar> Jack_Sparrow: of course. the live cd running. but stucks during the installation
[10:12] <stefg> !fixres > tune
[10:12] <can-o-wo1ms> harisund: cool
[10:12] <micahcowan> It gives its key fingerprint (I quit after that)
[10:12] <hadar> !install
[10:12] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[10:12] <harisund> Nimwei: sorry for the delay. I don't know how sysvconf works, but I can tell you something else about services.
[10:12] <mwe> George: then you didn't do it right or the file is broken
[10:12] <azureal> George: do xlsfonts | grep <name>
[10:13] <wweasel> Blissex: OK, thanks for the help.
[10:13] <Nimwei> harisund - sure, I'm listening.
[10:13] <George> azureal: hrmm, they appear to be there, but KDE's not picking them up
[10:13] <_bt> hey, i cant get xvid working in gxine, ive followed the faq, can anyone help me?
[10:13] <byteshack> harisund: Cannot find the 'font' mount point in the registry... seen that?
[10:13] <J_P> hey all, there are another software like as gkrellm for me see how much bytes are incomming in eth0 ? Becouse I would like see in kbits, and gkrellm show only in KBYTES...
[10:13] <harisund> byteshack: oooops. Nope ...
[10:13] <Blissex> wweasel: you know if you volunteered more information you would get more help...
[10:13] <azureal> George: well.... for what... a terminal?
[10:13] <crafton> and !free
[10:13] <fli7e> Blissex, looks like the correct drivers are there. Any guesses as to what i might want to modprobe? i'm willing to mess the system up, it's a fresh install
[10:14] <George> azureal: yes
[10:14] <mwe> George: put it in /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc && sudo mkfontdir /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc && xset fp rehash
[10:14] <Tune> NImwei: yep I have a 14" samsung and an intel i740 AGP  and It works Ok on windoze, I think Xubuntu didn't recognize the monitor
[10:14] <yey> mwe: could you suggest me some good tutorial about software managament in linux/ubuntu?
[10:14] <crafton> !free
[10:14] <ubotu> freedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing
[10:14] <azureal> mwe: they show up, so
[10:14] <George> azureal: I want my terminal fixed width font damnit :)
[10:14] <adiabatic> Randomish question: why am I ending up uploading the 5.10 x86 install CD than I am the 6.06 ones, using bittorrent?
[10:14] <mwe> oh
[10:14] <George> mwe: indeed, I did that
[10:14] <Blissex> wweasel: for example there is the possibility that you have an NVIDIA card with the 3D accel NVIDIA binary driver.
[10:14] <harisund> Nimwei: all required services are in /etc/init.d. A typical example: cupsys, the printer service. Start it using 'sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys start' and 'sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys stop' stops it.
[10:14] <Jack_Sparrow> hadar: You did the self test correct...  many people do not if it works in another system...   You are trying to install Ubuntu 6.06?
[10:14] <Shinzetsu> aah im freaking out here
[10:14] <mwe> George: good
[10:14] <harisund> byteshack: is that an error you are getting on your Windows machine?
[10:14] <azureal> mwe: yea, they showed up for him in xlsfonts but
[10:14] <Shinzetsu> I want Ubuntu to mount all my disks in /mnt/
[10:14] <byteshack> yes
[10:14] <Wildcar1> Hey lol anyone wanna help me get my broadcom 4306 working?
[10:14] <mwe> oh
[10:14] <azureal> George: er.. which term
[10:14] <stefg> !info avifile
[10:14] <ubotu> Package avifile does not exist in dapper
[10:15] <hadar> Jack_Sparrow: what do u think then ?
[10:15] <byteshack> harisund: yeah, let me close all my cygiwn windows and see what gives
[10:15] <billy> to check port opens go to http://www.auditmypc.com/freescan/selscan.asp?S=2059
[10:15] <fli7e> Wildcarl, i'm on the same problem
[10:15] <cavediver> no bluetooth/grps expert in here ? :(
[10:15] <harisund> Nimwei: now, there are other folders in /etc that are titled rcS.d, rc0.d, rc1.d and so on till rc6.d
[10:15] <George> azureal: konsole
[10:15] <stefg> !info avifile-xvid-plugin
[10:15] <ubotu> avifile-xvid-plugin: XviD video encoding plugin for libavifile. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.7.44.20051021-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 0 kB, installed size 28 kB
[10:15] <harisund> byteshack: hmm... sorry .. I only know as much as Windows client 1.5 is needed for seveas' repo server.
[10:15] <mwe> my kde font dialogs dont show bitmap fonts I think
[10:15] <wweasel> Blissex: Alright. I am using an integrated Graphics card. Hold on, I'll check what it is.
[10:15] <George> mwe: this font works on my gentoo system.
[10:15] <Jack_Sparrow> hadar: Are you running usb2?
[10:15] <byteshack> harisund: thanks a ton, I'll google around and see if I can figure this out
[10:15] <harisund> I (we) could try googling. Just google the error and 'nx' and see what happens.
[10:15] <hadar> Jack_Sparrow: yes
[10:15] <harisund> byteshack can you give me that exact error?
[10:16] <byteshack> harisund: you said that I have to turn the SSL option on the client, correct?
[10:16] <hadar> Jack_Sparrow: also syslinux'ed it
[10:16] <Jack_Sparrow> hadar: Go into bios set it to 1.1
[10:16] <mwe> George: I'm not sure but I think KDE needs to be configured to use bitmap fonts
[10:16] <yey> mwe: checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[10:16] <magus_> where i can get the lastest version of flashplugin for linux?
[10:16] <yey> ? :)
[10:16] <harisund> byteshack: yes. Otherwise it will try to open another port which of course is blocked by tehe firewall.
[10:16] <Jack_Sparrow> hadar: Is this a laptop?
[10:16] <George> mwe: hrmm
[10:16] <mwe> yey: install that perl module then
[10:16] <harisund> Nimwei: you got that?
[10:16] <hadar> Jack_Sparrow: no
[10:16] <hadar> Jack_Sparrow: its celleron, not a slow one
[10:16] <Jack_Sparrow> hadar: Set bios usb to 1.1
[10:16] <byteshack> harisund: on the client it is:  The initialization of the local X Server failed.\nError is: Cannot find the 'font' mount point in the registry.
[10:16] <azureal> George: yea, at one pt i used konsole to play a text-based game (lol)... and only the .ttf version seemed to work =P
[10:16] <harisund> byteshack: In the environment tab of the client, I have unchecked 'Use font server' maybe that is required?
[10:16] <crafton> question: is possible 3d acceleration of nvidia cards with a free (as freedom) driver?
[10:16] <billy> lol the page i gave its a fake srry
[10:17] <connyosis> crafton: nope
[10:17] <hadar> Jack_Sparrow: i suppose there is a reading error from the USB
[10:17] <livingdaylig> anyone here of a new package/software that runs quicktime movies?
[10:17] <livingdaylig> as featured in Linux Magazine
[10:17] <azureal> but now...
[10:17] <magus_> crafton, : why you dont use the normal driver?
[10:17] <crafton> and... there are an existing project working with it?
[10:17] <Jack_Sparrow> hadar: Do you have an internal cdrom?
[10:17] <hadar> Jack_Sparrow: i do believe it succeeds to boot fromusb. the error i get then is "can't find /capser/.vim"
[10:17] <mwe> yey: sudo apt-get install libxml-parser-perl
[10:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Not a usb one
[10:17] <mwe> yey: I think
[10:17] <hadar> Jack_Sparrow: what's that ?
[10:17] <byteshack> harisund: I have no idea what the path would be
[10:17] <stefg> crafton: no, you need the linux-restricted-modules pack for your kernel and nvidia-glx
[10:17] <harisund> byteshack: did you uncheck it?
[10:18] <hadar> Jack_Sparrow: i have 2 liveCD cdroms, and two server cd rom's
[10:18] <harisund> byteshack: then it wouldn't ask you for a path itself?
[10:18] <Jack_Sparrow> hadar: Do you have an internal cdrom?
[10:18] <byteshack> harisund: it is unchecked
[10:18] <yey> mwe: where I can search for names?
[10:18] <crafton> i'm using it, but i will prefer that it would be free
[10:18] <livingdaylig> hallo?
[10:18] <harisund> byteshack: and what about the 'Select NX fonts' ?
[10:18] <George> azureal: interesting....
[10:18] <Jack_Sparrow> hadar: Do you have an internal cdrom?  NON-usb
[10:18] <mwe> yey: apt-cache search
[10:18] <hadar> Jack_Sparrow: internal means install live cd?..
[10:18] <aloisio> somebody knows if dapper will have 2.6.16 kernel version officially (installed by update manager)
[10:18] <magus_> and the normal driver is paid?!
[10:18] <mwe> yey: or apt-cache search -n
[10:18] <hadar> Jack_Sparrow: i don't understand what internal is..
[10:18] <trappist> aloisio: no
[10:18] <mwe> yey: 'man apt-cache'
[10:18] <Jack_Sparrow> hadar: No... a cd player that is NOT a usb
[10:18] <yey> mwe: thxsudo apt-get install libxml-parser-perl
[10:18] <hadar> Jack_Sparrow: do u mean installation CD ROM ?
[10:18] <yey> :)
[10:18] <byteshack> harisund: well, there are 2 fonts selected there: 8, MS Shell DI and Fixed: 7, Courier New
[10:18] <fli7e> Wildcarl, still there?
[10:18] <crafton> magus_ free as compatible with GPL
[10:19] <stefg> crafton: this is what we all would want, but no way. Blame patent laws
[10:19] <hadar> Jack_Sparrow: yes! i have two. i dont have a usb CDDROM. i have a usb STICK...
[10:19] <magus_> ahhh
[10:19] <magus_> :P
[10:19] <trappist> aloisio: the kernel will get backported bugfixes and security updates only
[10:19] <mwe> yey: I think that's it
[10:19] <magus_> where i can get the lastest version of flashplugin for linux?
[10:19] <BrokenPipe> Can anyone help me with nvidia drivers?
[10:19] <hadar> Jack_Sparrow: when i meant USB, i meant i tried installing from UDB stick
[10:19] <Jack_Sparrow> hadar: Forget the stick...
[10:19] <lmosher> Anyone know how to rotate text in openoffice?
[10:19] <harisund> byteshack: hmmm... then you are having the default settings, same as I have. I wonder if it has anything to do with installing a Cygwin X server?
[10:19] <hadar> USB
[10:19] <mwe> !nvidia > BrokenPipe
[10:19] <aloisio> trappist: it will stop on 2.6.15? but i have problems eith madwifi, wpa_supplicant and leap authentication
[10:19] <fli7e> It seems the problem with the Broadcom 4306 problem I've been working at is this: Dapper comes with the 43xx driver installed, but you have to find/download/extract/install the firmware for it yourself before it works.
[10:19] <hadar> Jack_Sparrow: on my last try, i installed istlux. do u know what's that ?
[10:20] <crafton> stetg, then the reason because there isn't nobody working with a free driver is the patents laws?
[10:20] <mwe> aloisio: I gave up madwifi for now and use ndiswrapper instead
[10:20] <Jack_Sparrow> hadar: Remove the stick, set bios to usb1  and boot with Ubuntu 6.06 cd in the drive
[10:20] <Masqy> How come the drapper's gnome interface is *MUCH* faster than breezer?
[10:20] <byteshack> harisund: I'm going to try to do a "clean" client install (ie. remove ~/ entries and all "Program Files" entries on win)
[10:20] <trappist> aloisio: submit a bug, but you'll probably have to wait for edgy (or maybe use an edgy kernel)
[10:20] <stefg> crafton: basically yes
[10:20] <hadar> Jack_Sparrow: it installs a boot.ini info so the linux install will be chosen on boot. but it suppose to install from the C:
[10:20] <nu> !nvidia
[10:20] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:20] <harisund> byteshack: good idea. Maybe it is conflicting with the NX 2 client installation. Do try that whiel I look for more information.
[10:20] <hadar> Jack_Sparrow: and it requests the CD ..
[10:20] <mwe> aloisio: wpa athentication was dead slow and unstable with madwifi for me
[10:20] <Jack_Sparrow> hadar: Since you insist on doing what you want to do and not what people tell you to do please find someone else to help you
[10:21] <crafton> nu i'm using this drivers working
[10:21] <hadar> Jack_Sparrow: im soory i dont look at the monitor while im typing
[10:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Next
[10:21] <byteshack> harisund: it would stink if the nxclient install cannot coexists with a different cygwin
[10:21] <hadar> i read ur msg now, i was about to write "thanks, going to try.."
[10:21] <Masqy> no one reacts to my quetions any more : (
[10:21] <aloisio> trappist: it seems that in 2.6.16 the problem does not happen, i am downloading edgy version to test
[10:21] <harisund> byteshack: no I meant NX client 2.0 and nxclient 1.5 not liking the presence of each other.
[10:21] <azureal> ah, here's an interesting problem that I encountered: when I ran a man command on aterm, i got a "WARNING: terminal is not fully functional"
[10:21] <hadar> so sorry for the misunderstanding @}-- :)
[10:21] <azureal> and aterm was in general pretty buggy
[10:22] <mwe> azureal: I think it's not unicode enabled
[10:22] <crafton> here is the question, i can't develop a GPLed alternate 3d drivers for nvidia?
[10:22] <aloisio> mwe: i have problem with reathenticate with leap, for wep works fine
[10:22] <mwe> azureal: maybe that's it
[10:22] <hadar> so i'm going to try it. usb 1.1 and cd boot
[10:22] <mwe> azureal: I switched to rxvt-unicode for the that reason
[10:22] <livingdaylig> who's offering a laptop to everyone?
[10:22] <azureal> mwe: oh, how do i fix that? (i was mainly using just xterm)
[10:22] <livingdaylig> somoene just offerend me a laptop
[10:22] <micahcowan> azureal, what's the value of $TERM?
[10:22] <harisund> oh and by the way byteshack are you intending to forward sounds as well?
[10:22] <mwe> azureal: use another terminal emulator
[10:23] <mwe> aloisio: yeah
[10:23] <azureal> lol, you dont want to know, micahcowan..it's a swear =P
[10:23] <mwe> aloisio: madwifi is not stable
[10:23] <azureal> ah, i must've played around w/ it too much and reset something
[10:23] <micahcowan> azureal, well, if $TERM is wrong, man will definitely complain about it.
[10:23] <tibbe> I would like gnome-terminal to use colors for my prompt, what's the "correct" way of doing that? .bashrc?
[10:23] <natan-> can someone do me a favor and type "grep '6000' /etc/services" into console and tells me what comes up in a pm?
[10:23] <azureal> micahcowan: so i must've set it to a swear lol
[10:23] <mwe> tibbe: right
[10:23] <micahcowan> nice
[10:23] <Blissex> natan-: what's the point? Port 6000 is the port for X11 on display :0.
[10:23] <Viper550> Are there any Fluxbox themes that look close to the new Dapper human colors?
[10:24] <mwe> tibbe: or /etc/profile to do it system wide
[10:24] <harisund> byteshack: googling for your error, it looks like there are problems with having it on the registry and stuff. Perhaps the fact that you are not admin?
[10:24] <azureal> micahcowan: what should $TERM be?
[10:24] <aloisio> mwe: do you know where i find a tutorial to installing ndiswrapper?
[10:24] <micahcowan> I dunno... wonder if there's an entry for aterm.
[10:24] <natan-> Blissex - can do you a "telnet 216.98.58.100 6000
[10:24] <mwe> !ndiswrapper
[10:24] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:24] <azureal> ah, for xterm it's simply 'xterm'
[10:24] <natan-> Blissex - can do you a "telnet 216.98.58.100 6000" for me and tell me if you can connect
[10:24] <micahcowan> Remove the setting you make in your .bashrc, and see what aterm does (it probably sets $TERM itself).
[10:24] <byteshack> harisund: let me try to run the client under sudo
[10:24] <Jeruvy> why is mintim3 spamming joiners?
[10:24] <azureal> !telnet
[10:24] <ubotu> telnet is not safe. Please use ssh instead. See !ssh
[10:24] <billy_> can-o-wolms ur port is open
[10:24] <Jeruvy> why is mintim3 spamming joiners?
[10:24] <Blissex> natan-: that's something nobody should do for you, because it could be a third party machine.
[10:24] <billy_> ss
[10:24] <mwe> aloisio: it's vital you use the correct windows driver though
[10:24] <billy_> ssh
[10:25] <harisund> byteshack: not sure. did you uninstall everything and try cleanly?
[10:25] <azureal> !ssh
[10:25] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[10:25] <natan-> Blissex - its a game server
[10:25] <mwe> aloisio: chech the database at ndiswrapper.sf.net
[10:25] <wirelain> Should it take more than an hour to come up? (it=6.06desktop on a celeron433@128mbram+@6gb)
[10:25] <natan-> Blissex - which my machine can't access for some reason
[10:25] <Blissex> natan-: the game server owner might regard it as a hack attempt...
[10:25] <SurfnKid> if my ntfs drive is hda1
[10:25] <popey> quick question - does Ubuntu install by default with LVM switched on, and the partition(s) LVM'ed?
[10:25] <byteshack> harisund: I did, the best i could
[10:25] <SurfnKid> whast a coommand to mount it on /media/hda1
[10:25] <natan-> Blissex - ermmm i doubt it :P
[10:25] <azureal> micahcowan: how do i set $TERM variable permanently?
[10:25] <SurfnKid> mount /dev/hda1  /media/hda1 ?
[10:26] <popey> azureal: in your .bash_profile
[10:26] <harisund> byteshack: hmmm.. now I am lost :(
[10:26] <yey> mwe: how can I search for names begining with gtk?
[10:26] <byteshack> harisund: me 3
[10:26] <mwe> SurfnKid: sudo mkdir /media/hda1 && sudo mount -o umask=0222 /dev/hda1 /media/hda1
[10:26] <yey> mwe: ^gtk doesn't work
[10:26] <micahcowan> azureal, aterm should be setting it correctly on start: the best thing would be for you to leave it alone, by not setting it in your .bashrc or .bash_profile.
[10:26] <byteshack> weird thing is that the 2.0 client didn't have those issues
[10:26] <natan-> Blissex - then can you tell me when i can't connect to anything on port 6000? is it because x11 is running on it?
[10:26] <MasterC> hi
[10:26] <popey> yey apt-cache search gtk* | grep ^gtk
[10:26] <mwe> yey: apt-cache search -n gtk|grep ^gtk
[10:26] <byteshack> harisund: I'll try to install the 2.0 client again and see if it has the same startup problems
[10:27] <yey> mwe: thx
[10:27] <natan-> why i mean~
[10:27] <yey> popey: thx
[10:27] <Blissex> natan-: most likely because of a firewall rule that protects a port that is very delicate for security.
[10:27] <SurfnKid> mwe the dir is already created, but i wanna learn how to mount,unmount manually, so i presume the second command you typed :P
[10:27] <Shinzetsu> okay guys i screwed up, can someone send me a stock /etc/fstab ?
[10:27] <harisund> byteshack: yeah try that. And do let me know as well.
[10:27] <aloisio> mwe: tks! but how do i know what is exactly my driver? via lspci?
[10:27] <mwe> SurfnKid: right 
[10:27] <natan-> Blissex - i dont have any firewall that i know installed, how would i change it?
[10:27] <byteshack> harisund: thanks for all your help!!!
[10:27] <MasterC> OpenOffice Calc prints always "Sheet 1" at the top of my sheets, how can I disable that?
[10:27] <SurfnKid> thx
[10:27] <mwe> aloisio: you need to know your chip and or card name
[10:28] <Blissex> natan-: no idea. It could be your ISP. But try 'iptables -L -v -n | less'
[10:28] <Shinzetsu> oh wait i guess it wont help
[10:28] <mwe> aloisio: lspci can help you with that yes
[10:28] <Shinzetsu> is there a way to 'regenerate' a new fstab?
[10:28] <goonies> links2 cant even get to google
[10:28] <natan-> Blissex - it isn't my isp, my router connects fine to the server, only this machine doesn't
[10:28] <aloisio> mwe: ok, tks i'll try
[10:28] <Jack_Sparrow> natan-: Firewall is built into the kernel iptable , you can use a firewall manager if you need to manually set specific ports.
[10:28] <azureal> micahcowan: define 'on start'
[10:29] <micahcowan> azureal, when aterm starts a new shell. Like, when you open aterm.
[10:29] <micahcowan> azureal, it can only do that, though, if you don't mess with it after aterm's set it.
[10:29] <azureal> micahcowan: every new shell is bad now
[10:29] <mwe> aloisio: lspci -v maybe
[10:29] <Masqy> Hi All, I'm surveing connection to internet through PPP via cables... I'm using the pptp package, with a provider file, which is activated straight from the /etc/network/interfaces automatically.. wonder how did u configure it, did someone write his own script and added it to the RC2 directory?
[10:29] <micahcowan> azureal, did you remove the offending line from your .bashrc, .bash_profile?
[10:30] <jatt> Shinzetsu: the mount package has a fstab example file: /usr/share/doc/mount/examples/fstab.gz
[10:30] <natan-> Blissex - nothing coming up in that about port 6000 specifically
[10:30] <SurfnKid> 
[10:30] <azureal> micahcowan: er... i can't find the er... title in .bashrc or .bash_profile
[10:30] <mwe> azureal: really aterm is not cool with unicode
[10:30] <mwe> azureal: it will print bogus
[10:30] <micahcowan> title?
[10:30] <duane_> hello?
[10:30] <byteshack> harisund: interesting, the 2.0 client identifies that there is a conflict with another cygwing dll and asks if I want to rename the dll, 1.5 didn't do that
[10:31] <duane_> did a bot just spam me?!?!?!
[10:31] <azureal> micahcowan: i must've permanently changed the way aterm starts, and somehow changed it back
[10:31] <azureal> but..
[10:31] <duane_> anyway
[10:31] <harisund> byteshack: interesting indeed. maybe in 2.0 they made some changes to recognize existing Cygwin installations (.dll).
[10:31] <cica> hi folks
[10:31] <azureal> when i start aterm, it has *&$#( in capital letters on the top lol
[10:31] <duane_> how can i access projects @ the debian repository?
[10:31] <duane_> http://www.debian.org/distrib/
[10:31] <Shinzetsu> doh
[10:31] <Shinzetsu> its fine but i need to make the dirs lol
[10:31] <natan-> i think i'm gonna reformat to windows when i get home, this is rediculous, i can't even manage to freely use ports in ubuntu O_o
[10:31] <azureal> which also happens to be the $TERM value =P
[10:31] <duane_> anyone?
[10:31] <duane_> please?
[10:31] <micahcowan> azureal, that's not set by the $TERM variable, though. That's something else.
[10:32] <duane_> deb http://www.debian.org/distrib/ what?
[10:32] <jbroome> natan-: that's the good thing about windows.. all the ports are open.
[10:32] <mwe> azureal: copy paste this '' to your aterm and you'll see what I mean
[10:32] <natan-> jbroome - up :>
[10:32] <jatt> well the only way to restore one if you lost yours is to use a backup (if you had any)
[10:32] <cica> not really a Linux question, but whats the best way to compress Jpegs on a Ubuntu system to be transfered and opened by a Windoze system?
[10:32] <wweasel> Blissex: I looked up my graphics card. It's an S3 ProSavageDDR
[10:32] <xcasex> anyone having problems with DD with an english lcoale?
[10:32] <duane_> anyone?
[10:32] <micahcowan> mwe, yeah, but if he's mucking with $TERM, it won't matter much if he moves to a better terminal...
[10:32] <azureal> it's an a with a squiggly line over it
[10:32] <duane_> c'mon, it's an easy question
[10:32] <jatt> cica: jpegs are already compressed
[10:32] <duane_> HOW can I access the packages @ http://www.debian.org/distrib/?
[10:32] <JackONeill> I have a program I want to install and it's come in cpkg form... is it possible?
[10:32] <harisund> cica: I think jpegs are pretty much as compressed as you can get.
[10:33] <micahcowan> azureal, really? I'd have bet on four different characters.
[10:33] <aG|KillaNo1> need help with installing ubuntu please help me
[10:33] <byteshack> harisund: the authentication phase works ok, but then the session startup fails
[10:33] <cica> jatt: really :-(
[10:33] <mwe> micahcowan: good point
[10:33] <cica> harisund: :-(
[10:33] <wweasel> cica: jpegs are compressed, if you want to store lots of them in one file, make a zip file?
[10:33] <duane_> could SOMEONE help me?
[10:33] <micahcowan> azureal, what does "grep TERM ~/.bashrc ~/.bash_profile" give you?
[10:33] <wweasel> !ask
[10:33] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:33] <harisund> byteshack: do you have the error?
[10:33] <duane_> I need to access the http://www.debian.org/distrib/ repository
[10:33] <wweasel> oops.
[10:33] <cica> wweasel: tried that but it doesn't seem to make much difference to the overall size :-(
[10:33] <azureal> (in which terminal should i do this, micahcowan?)
[10:33] <duane_> what do I add to my /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[10:33] <wweasel> cica: Yeah, that's cause JPEGs are compressed already
[10:33] <aG|KillaNo1> when i try to install ubuntu it says Error No Root File System, what am i doing wrong?
[10:33] <micahcowan> azureal, any, really.
[10:33] <Blissex> wweasel: very little chance of a Savage driver doing rotation.
[10:33] <duane_> aargh
[10:34] <byteshack> harisund: got a good pastebin that I can put stuff on?
[10:34] <harisund> duane_ what package you trying to install? The binaries from Debian mght not always be compatible with Ubuntu.
[10:34] <jatt> cica: yes, jpeg is generated by a compression algorithm :). You could pack your jpeg files in a tar file and transfer themm to your windoze box as one archive...
[10:34] <harisund> !pastebin
[10:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:34] <byteshack> harisund: pastebin.com has been giving me issues
[10:34] <yey> mwe: I cannot solve this problem myself :( : checking for GTK+ - version >= 2.0.0... no
[10:34] <duane_> oh
[10:34] <cica> wweasel: any idea how I could transfer these files other than email?
[10:34] <harisund> bytesack you could pm me here..
[10:34] <duane_> the latest blender, a couple libraryes
[10:34] <duane_> some games
[10:34] <mwe> yey: install libgtk2.0-dev I think
[10:34] <Magus_X> where i can get the lastest version of flashplugin for linux???
[10:34] <aG|KillaNo1> anyeone?
[10:34] <wweasel> cica: ftp
[10:34] <cica> wweasel: would an ftp connection be easy to set uo
[10:34] <azureal> micahcowan: no output; like i said, i already must have changed it back
[10:34] <azureal> and yet..
[10:35] <wweasel> cica: how big are the files we are talking about?
[10:35] <micahcowan> azureal, does man work on new aterms then?
[10:35] <wweasel> cica: can you burn a cd? Use a USB key?
[10:35] <azureal> nope
[10:35] <cica> wweasel: 25M in total
[10:35] <aG|KillaNo1> i get error no root system file.. what can i do...
[10:35] <Nimwei> Anyone know of any *free* web based control panels like cPanel for web administration?
[10:35] <wweasel> cica: www.yousendit.com
[10:35] <micahcowan> azureal, on a new aterm, what does "echo $TERM" give?
[10:35] <cica> wweasel: prefer to do it over Internet/FTP (if its not too hard to set up)
[10:35] <wirelain> !faq
[10:35] <ubotu> faq is http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions Official documentation is at http://help.ubuntu.com IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[10:36] <wirelain> aG|KillaNo1: ^
[10:36] <Pugg1> Nimwei: webmin/usermin
[10:36] <wweasel> cica: Make a zip file and mail it over www.yousendit.com
[10:36] <Nimwei> Gracias, puggl.
[10:36] <Shinzetsu> still doesnt work, ill pastebin my fstab
[10:36] <cica> wweasel: whatta guy!
[10:36] <Russel> hiho
[10:37] <wweasel> cica: NP :)
[10:37] <Russel> i need the commandline for adding a right route to localhost (at the moment there is none)
[10:37] <Nimwei> Hrm, webmin isn't in the APT cache.
[10:38] <Shinzetsu> http://www.pastecode.com/2845
[10:38] <ironpancake> does anyone know how to open .daa files?
[10:39] <mwe> ironpancake: what are they?
[10:39] <zultan> Hello.
[10:39] <wirelain> http://filext.com/detaillist.php?extdetail=DAA#ggviewer-offsite-nav-12464704
[10:39] <Shinzetsu> hi
[10:39] <aG|KillaNo1> wirelain i can't find the answer anywere on the sites you suggested
[10:39] <JackONeill> !cedega
[10:39] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[10:39] <inc|freaky> any1 in here has ubuntu running on his server(s)?
[10:39] <zultan> Where can I get this wallpapers: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/EdgyProposals/Summary_18JULY2006#head-b5784bee871a84338c09a9e6f9538b19dcb0ad7e ?
[10:39] <ironpancake> i downloaded a torrent that is supposed to be full of linux ebooks, however, its in .daa format
[10:39] <ironpancake> so i can't get to them
[10:39] <ironpancake> i don't know what the format is generally used for
[10:39] <harisund> inc|freaky: I am guessing a lot of people do :)
[10:40] <wirelain> aG|KillaNo1: what is the exact error message?
[10:40] <Pugg1> Nimwei: manual install :( just needs a few perl/ssl bits
[10:40] <magus_> where i can get the lastest version of flashplugin for linux?????
[10:40] <inc|freaky> i want to know if they think its good and their experience with it
[10:40] <troytroy> am trying to install pkg and am been asked for "what is the location of the directory of c header files that match your running kernel" any clues pls
[10:40] <aG|KillaNo1> Error No Root System File
[10:41] <mwe> ironpancake: http://filext.com/detaillist.php?extdetail=DAA maybe
[10:41] <jatt> troytroy: /usr/include/linux/ ?
[10:41] <Daverag> Hey uys I have a problem with sound in Ubuntu. I have 2 soundcards, and my sound properties tell me my default is a Sblive! but I want it to be the integrated Nvidia card, so I change it but it always goes back to the Sblive.  Music still plays through the Nvidia card but Firefox/Flash insists on playing sound in the Sblive
[10:42] <mwe> troytroy: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) if you haven't though
[10:42] <cica> is the snoop command not used in Ubuntu?
[10:42] <jatt> troytroy: there is a linux-kernel-headers package containing those header files
[10:42] <gnomefreak> Daverag: disable the sblive in bios
[10:42] <flipfone> anyone familiar with Synce ?
[10:42] <wirelain> aG|KillaNo1:  well, it's not unheard of ... https://launchpad.net/bugs/37872 ...
[10:43] <magus_> where i can get the lastest version of flashplugin for linux????? please help me
[10:43] <kmilo_> cica, snoop in ubuntu http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=snoop&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=dapper&arch=i386
[10:43] <gnomefreak> magus_: its in multiverse repo
[10:43] <cica> kmilo_: thanks
[10:43] <chanders> @ DBO Hey
[10:43] <troytroy> jatt: thanks but pls does default dapper installation come with kernel source pkg installed
[10:43] <mwe> magus_: there is only a flash 7 plugin for linux
[10:44] <magus_> wow
[10:44] <magus_> thats better than my actual
[10:44] <magus_> i cant even get here www.swat4.com
[10:44] <hadar> Jack_Sparrow: it didnt work.. the cd could barely read, installation didn't even start. also tried usb - same error from before.
[10:44] <nomego> Is there some place to download a newer ubuntu-kernel?
[10:44] <mwe> magus_: many flash pages don't work unless you have a flash 9 plugin
[10:44] <magus_> incredible
[10:44] <magus_> now swat 4 site opened
[10:45] <magus_> what tha hell
[10:45] <magus_> :~
[10:45] <Jack_Sparrow> hadar: Goes back to a hardware problem
[10:45] <hadar> Jack_Sparrow: i know.. but what hardware problem? windows is installed and mandriva was, till few hours ago
[10:45] <Nimwei> nomego - Just do an apt-get update, and then apt-get upgrade and it should include that in the update.
[10:46] <Dark-Lord> Hi, are there any default CLI utilities to manage daemons under ubuntu?
[10:46] <cyphase> has anyone thought of integrating specialized package managers into synaptic?
[10:46] <jatt> troytroy: sorry I don't know if the default installation includes the kernel source package. Bear in mind linux-kernel-headers is 'different' then the headers in the kernel sources. linux-kernel-headers are intended to be used by userspace programs
[10:46] <cyphase> i.e. gems for rails
[10:46] <hadar> inslux was really good tool, but i couldn't set the installation to install from my c: drive. what's the problem..?
[10:46] <cyphase> or into smart as well i suppose
[10:46] <acojlo> nomego, ubuntu kernels are distibuted trough standard repositories in two versions: binary which you run and source which you can adapt to your needs with 'make menuconfig'
[10:46] <kaatil> i hear flash 9 plugin supposedly come out on first quarterly.
[10:46] <steve_Laptop> Getting 403 Forbidden on CUPS web admin.  Any ideas how to get around that?  I'm root for the box...
[10:46] <FurryNemesis> anyone know where I can get a good idiot's guide to using the CLI properly, ie what all the commands mean?
[10:46] <hadar> instlux i meant
[10:47] <Jack_Sparrow> hadar: Clean your cd reader or swap in a different one
[10:47] <hadar> Jack_Sparrow: already tried
[10:47] <hadar> Jack_Sparrow: do u mean phisically clean ?
[10:47] <Jack_Sparrow> hadar: I cant help you
[10:48] <acojlo> FurryNemesis: well you have System -> Help -> System Documentation -> Command Line Help
[10:48] <Jack_Sparrow> hadar: NEed to work on my own projects for a few hours
[10:48] <troytroy> jatt: "the header files in /usr/include are genrally for c libraries not for the running kernel. if you do not have kernel header files in your /usr/src directroy you probably do not have kernel source pkg installed" any clues
[10:48] <FurryNemesis> acojlo, I was looking more for a good physical book
[10:48] <magus_> is there anyway to run .rpm in linux?
[10:48] <hadar> Jack_Sparrow: thanks anyway, really. at least u tried ..
[10:49] <jbroome> magus_: check out alien
[10:49] <byteshack> harisund: got it to work :)
[10:49] <magus_> hm. o
[10:49] <magus_> ok
[10:49] <acojlo> FurryNemesis, don't know other than one you could print. Go to bookstore near to you
[10:49] <Jack_Sparrow> hadar: Get a known good cd player and try it again...
[10:49] <magus_> a player for what?
[10:49] <mwe> FurryNemesis: I found "running linux" to be a good linux book
[10:49] <steve_Laptop> Getting 403 Forbidden on CUPS web admin.  Any ideas how to get around that?  I'm root for the box...
[10:49] <byteshack> harisund: installed the 1.5 client, then went into the bin directory and pretty much renamed all cyg*.dll to cyg*.dll.orig
[10:49] <Dark-Lord> Furrynemesis: there's also -->http://www.oreillynet.com/linux/cmd/ which is a directory of commands.
[10:49] <byteshack> harisund: execept cygXcomp.dll which I guess I don't have in my cygwin install
[10:49] <FurryNemesis> ooh
[10:50] <FurryNemesis> that's useful
[10:50] <byteshack> harisund: and it seemed to kick things into action
[10:50] <byteshack> harisund: thank you very much for your help
[10:50] <skibobdi> pls point me in the right direction, Im booting the ubuntu 6.06 amd64 cd which results in a hard crash just when gnome-splash gets displayed, is there some option i can pass to grub maybe??
[10:51] <Jack_Sparrow> The easiset linux book you will ever read... free pdf...  http://www.suseblog.com/index.php
[10:51] <mwe> Dark-Lord: usually 'man whatever' provides better info though 
[10:51] <jatt> troytroy: your original problem was that a package asked for "the location of the directory of c header files that match your running kernel". If you don't have any headers in /usr/include/linux you should install the linux-kernel-headers package your package can work properly.
[10:51] <Dark-Lord> true, but that directory is good to know what commands there are, then you read the man page of each
[10:51] <steve_Laptop> Getting 403 Forbidden on CUPS web admin.  Any ideas how to get around that?  I'm root for the box...
[10:52] <Centaur5> What would cause Dapper to pause at Preparing Linux Restricted Modules for about 3 minutes when booting?
[10:52] <Shinzetsu> hey I got my fstab fixed with help from a friend, thanks everyone
[10:52] <troytroy> ok
[10:52] <Shinzetsu> IRC Help > Microsoft Phone
[10:52] <yoni> hmm Why I can't watch Divx \ Xvid movies on Ubuntu?
[10:53] <Shinzetsu> yoni: www.easyubuntu.com
[10:53] <mwe> yoni: you can
[10:53] <livingtm> how do I know if i have the latest drivers for my Intel 945GM mobile video card? Xorg is configured for i810, is this correct?
[10:53] <yoni> How?
[10:54] <mwe> yoni: install the codecs. follow the link Shinzetsu suggested
[10:54] <hadar> what does this pharse mean: "Append c:\grldr="Install Ubuntu" to c:\boot.ini."
[10:54] <Shinzetsu> EasyUbuntu is brilliant, I struggled months and then someone gave me to it and I was like uhm...right
[10:54] <hadar> should i add this line to boot.ini ?
[10:54] <JackONeill> !xlib
[10:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about xlib - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:54] <JackONeill> !xlibs
[10:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about xlibs - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:54] <Dark-Lord> hmm, does anyone know the linux equivalent to microsofts 'services.msc' service config utility
[10:54] <mwe> Shinzetsu: the web page doesn't say how to use it though
[10:55] <mwe> Dark-Lord: um rcconf
[10:55] <mwe> Dark-Lord: generally it's not done in a gui though
[10:55] <skibobdi> services-admin
[10:55] <ulisse> lo people
[10:56] <mwe> Dark-Lord: what daemons do you need to configure?
[10:56] <Dark-Lord> cool, i usually do everything under the CLI anyway
[10:56] <Dark-Lord> smtp etc
[10:56] <Dark-Lord> just want to shut a few down
[10:56] <mwe> Dark-Lord: I use rcconf to enable/disable services to start at boot.
[10:56] <ulisse> I have a /dev/adsp device, but if I make "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/adsp" i get "no such device"... any hint?
[10:56] <mwe> Dark-Lord: sudo /etc/init.d/whatever stop
[10:56] <yoni> Shinzetsu, What this thingy should do? & why it's written so complex on php?
[10:56] <Dark-Lord> cool, thanks
[10:56] <mwe> Dark-Lord: and rcconf to make it permanent
[10:57] <mwe> Dark-Lord: you might have to install rcconf though
[10:57] <Dark-Lord> is rcconf a builtin utility?
[10:57] <mwe> Dark-Lord: no
[10:57] <Dark-Lord> or do i need to download the package?
[10:57] <Dark-Lord> true, i'll apt-get it
[10:57] <mwe> Dark-Lord: update-rc.d is though. it has some short comings though
[10:57] <Shinzetsu> yoni: download and run it, itll install all multimedia and 3d stuff for you which didnt came out of the box
[10:57] <Dark-Lord> cool thanks
[10:57] <Shinzetsu> go to the download page and type the deb <link> command into a terminal
[10:58] <yoni> What should I run? this is a web site archived zip...
[10:59] <mwe> Shinzetsu: how are you supposed to use the zip file on easyubuntu.com?
[10:59] <Shinzetsu> wait
[10:59] <yoni> kk
[10:59] <yoni> I think the site was broke :P
[10:59] <mwe> yoni: it looks b0rked
[10:59] <Shinzetsu> huh they changed the site
[10:59] <yoni> 'cause zip is for Win32 :)
[11:00] <mwe> Shinzetsu: maybe it's defaced or something
[11:00] <Shinzetsu> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html
[11:00] <Shinzetsu> sorry i have you the wrong link
[11:00] <Nimwei> Ok, so if I download a DEB manually..how do I unpack and install it
[11:00] <Shinzetsu> gave*
[11:00] <mwe> !deb > Nimwei
[11:00] <owen_> If anyone knows a good amount of fstab, disk management, and hardrives, please try and help me with my problem at this link: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=233065
[11:01] <mnvl> yes hadar 'append to' mean 'add to the very end'
[11:01] <mnvl> means*
[11:01] <Shinzetsu> yoni: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html
[11:01] <cica> can anyone give me a few brief pointers as to setting up a secure ftp connection between a Linux and Windoze machine?
[11:02] <Jack_Sparrow> !easyubuntu
[11:02] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[11:02] <Jack_Sparrow> !automatix
[11:02] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[11:02] <zultan> !help
[11:02] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[11:02] <xevil> Nimwei: man dpkg
[11:02] <yoni> Shinzetsu, cool ,thanks
[11:03] <Nimwei> xevil and mew -> Thanks.
[11:03] <Nimwei> mwe rather
[11:03] <mwe> yw
[11:03] <qatsi> uhmm, anyone knows if ndiswrapper is having trubble with breeze ?? because i had it working under hoary, but now, my wireless isnt working
[11:04] <mwe> qatsi: it should work
[11:04] <Arrick> mwe how are you, its been a while
[11:04] <qatsi> mwe: it isnt working, maybe im doing something wrong :(
[11:04] <mwe> qatsi: why not use dapper though?
[11:05] <azureal> i am invincible!!!!!!!!!
[11:05] <gumpish> what MTA does Breezy include?
[11:05] <mwe> qatsi: maybe
[11:05] <mwe> gumpish: none
[11:05] <qatsi> mwe: sorry, name confusion, im using dapper, and i had breeze
[11:05] <azureal> and i'm also quoting from goldeneye =)
[11:05] <mwe> gumpish: you need to install one
[11:05] <qatsi> :p
[11:05] <hugifrb> test
[11:05] <jatt> gumpish: postfix, exim...
[11:05] <brownie> hi
[11:05] <mwe> gumpish: postfix usually
[11:05] <bobbyd> hi
[11:06] <mwe> qatsi: how is it not working? does ndiswrapper -l show your hardware. is the windows driver installed?
[11:06] <bobbyd> does anyone here have an ubuntu server install running from Compact Flash, if so, what kind of transfer rates are you getting from the card? I'm getting about 2MB/sec which is making the install take *forever*. Should I just ditch this and get a faster card?
[11:07] <steve_Laptop> Getting 403 Forbidden on CUPS web admin.  Any ideas how to get around that?  I'm root for the box...
[11:07] <brownie> hello, m ywifi is working but on 802.11b, my card can do 802.11g how can i force that ?
[11:07] <qatsi> mwe: ndiswrapper -l says driver present, hardware present, and i installed the bcmwl5a.inf file...the same i used when it used to work...
[11:07] <mwe> steve_Laptop: it's disabled by default
[11:08] <harisund> byteshack: you still around? Sorry I went offline. But I am glad you got it to work :)
[11:08] <mwe> steve_Laptop: "sudo adduser cupsys shadow" then "sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart"
[11:08] <steve_Laptop> I know that.  I've followed the instructions at http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2117/ and still get the problem
[11:08] <azrael0> Hey, I've installed nvidia-glx from the ubuntu repository, and switched my driver lines. However, now my openGL appears to not work.
[11:08] <harisund> byteshack: Is your cygwin still working though?
[11:08] <azrael0> Can anyone give me an idea where to start looking?
[11:08] <steve_Laptop> The user cupsys is already a member of the group
[11:08] <Magus_X> switched driver lines?!
[11:09] <Magus_X> why u did it
[11:09] <Magus_X> ?
[11:09] <harisund> Hello everyone! I was just wondering why I am able to ssh into a remote machine, but tracepath stops somewhere along the line?? Who filters tracepath but not ssh packets?
[11:09] <mwe> steve_Laptop: then I don't know why it's not working
[11:09] <azrael0> Switched from driver "nv" to driver "nvidia"
[11:09] <puppet> harisund: i do
[11:09] <azrael0> I did that because that's how one switches to the nvidia driver.
[11:09] <harisund> puppet yes?
[11:09] <puppet> harisund: i filter trace but not ssh
[11:09] <qatsi> how do i know the version of ndiswrapper i have ?
[11:09] <thevishy> !offtopic
[11:09] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:10] <steve_Laptop> Thanks.  Any idea of a better place to ask?
[11:10] <Cornellius> random, woot !
[11:10] <thevishy> AnandRulez shouts: http://www.imagefap.com/gallery.php?gid=268953 , National Geographic wallpapers
[11:10] <thevishy> oops!
[11:10] <harisund> ah! most interesting. So you are responsible for blocking tcp packets from practically every comp. in the world?
[11:10] <derekS> i tried running vmware on my box, and when i try to do the kernel headers stuff.... i get this http://pastebin.ca/124132
[11:10] <thevishy> #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:10] <[Wiebel] > hmm
[11:10] <Cornellius> steve_Laptop: #ubuntu  #kubuntu  #xubuntu  #edubuntu   For the help with their respective WM.
[11:10] <T`ch> anyone know how to tell if a ssh key has a passphrase or not?
[11:11] <thevishy> is dapper out ?
[11:11] <FurryNemesis> yep
[11:11] <FurryNemesis> and it's sweet
[11:11] <thevishy> is it better than breezy ?
[11:11] <derekS> thevishy: YES
[11:11] <Cornellius> Wrong channel, doh
[11:11] <FurryNemesis> yes
[11:11] <thevishy> thanks
[11:11] <BurningClaws> of course
[11:12] <sc0tt> hey folks
[11:12] <sc0tt> :)
[11:12] <BurningClaws> hi
[11:12] <owen_> I really need this fstab/hardrive problem solved in order to get started on mass data storage, I need to get it done by tomorrow, if anyone can please take a glance at my post: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=233065 I would appreciate it, thanks.
[11:12] <Nimwei> That's interesting.  I rebooted my box and now GDM won't load and when I try to run apt-get it says /var/cache/apt cannot be written. ;)
[11:13] <harisund> T'ch no idea. Perhaps you could try adding your key to your authorized_keys file and SSH'ing to your own localhost.
[11:13] <sc0tt> I'm looking for help in setting up ubuntu to recognise the second screen attached working, so i can dualscreen horizontal span
[11:13] <sc0tt> :>
[11:13] <crazy_penguin> i wish a good night to all! sleep well! :)
[11:13] <sc0tt> goodnight crazy_penguin :)
[11:13] <harisund> T`ch you saw my note?
[11:13] <delight> sc0tt try the kubuntu ... i saw a tool doing just that
[11:14] <mwe> owen_: add entries similar to the one for hda1 for each partition
[11:14] <Sean1> Hi there (I'm new btw) , I'm attempting to mount an existing fakeraid partition, but I seem to get stumped once I try to mount the partition. I've installed dmraid, and I can see the partition in my /media folder, but nothing shows up when I try to view it. Any ideas or can someone point me in the right direction?
[11:14] <nu> anyone know the best way to play movie files? (avi, ogg, mpeg, etc)
[11:15] <delight> !restricted
[11:15] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:15] <delight> nu < !restricted
[11:15] <nu> delight, thanks!
[11:15] <mwe> owen_: sudo mkdir /media/hdb5 etc. then add entries in fstab for them as for hda1, changing the mount point from / to /media/hdb5 etc
[11:16] <FreshPrince> i though dapper drake is relased wiith XGL.. isnt it?
[11:17] <Frankenstein> anyone know of some good games like xmoto, supertux that are in the repostories
[11:17] <mwe> FreshPrince: I think not.
[11:17] <mwe> !xgl > FreshPrince
[11:17] <Tal> ok <- complete n00b, anyone available for a question :)
[11:17] <Frankenstein> Tal, ask man
[11:17] <mwe> Tal: just ask
[11:17] <Tal> :)
[11:17] <Tal> ok, have a laptop with no internal CD drive
[11:17] <FreshPrince> ok
[11:17] <Tal> i use external via USB
[11:17] <SupermanOnTheRun> Hello all
[11:17] <mwe> Tal: me too
[11:17] <Tal> anyway i can boot from that?
[11:18] <FreshPrince> mwe, that means XGL will come with the next relase?
[11:18] <Tal> as in instal ubuntu
[11:18] <mwe> FreshPrince: I don't know. maybe if it's stable by then
[11:18] <Jaydee> hello guyz, i'm jaydee.. this is my first use of linux and i'm really happy about it
[11:18] <holycow> xgl should neve make it to any release
[11:18] <ulisse> Tal: you should have a "boot from removable media" in your BIOS
[11:18] <mwe> Tal: well can your lappy boot from the usb drive?
[11:18] <holycow> its just a toy, not a real project
[11:18] <FreshPrince> mwe, ok
[11:18] <Nimwei> Any ideas on my problem with apt-get?  W: Not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock ;; E: Unable to write to /var/cache/apt/ ;; E: The package lists or statuf ile could not be parsed or opened.
[11:18] <SupermanOnTheRun> I have been racking my head against the wall for about the past week with a problem and am wondering if anyone has any suggestion ... btw (I am a linux N00b)
[11:18] <Samus_Aran> does anyone know why the mh package is completely broken ?  you install "mh", it sticks files in /usr/lib/mh/* and /usr/bin/mh/*, but none of them work, it says it isn't installed.
[11:18] <mwe> FreshPrince: you can install it though
[11:18] <delight> FreshPrince: it means u can install it with some easy steps described in the wiki
[11:18] <FreshPrince> mwe, i know
[11:18] <FreshPrince> ^
[11:18] <FreshPrince> ^^
[11:18] <Tal> let me look 1 sec
[11:19] <mwe> FreshPrince: I gave up on it for now personally, though
[11:19] <FreshPrince> well i'm asking here for another user :)
[11:19] <Samus_Aran> even after adding the dirs to PATH, it still won't load anything.  all that works is the man page "mh"
[11:19] <FreshPrince> im not an ubuntu user :)
[11:19] <FreshPrince> mwe, lol why? :)
[11:19] <mwe> Tal: if so it should be just as if you had an internal cd drive
[11:19] <Tal> its not in the boot menu
[11:19] <SupermanOnTheRun> on eth0 I have a Tigon 3 driver that was auto recognized and installed when I installed ubuntu
[11:19] <Tal> all i seee is
[11:19] <mwe> FreshPrince: It wasn't stable for me
[11:19] <Tal> boot device priority
[11:19] <Tal> HD or Floppe
[11:19] <Tal> floopy*
[11:19] <FreshPrince> mwe, ok
[11:20] <SupermanOnTheRun> the problem is that it lock up after some undefined amount of time
[11:20] <micahcowan> Tal
[11:20] <micahcowan> !enter
[11:20] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[11:20] <mwe> Tal: oh. does it have a floppy drive?
[11:20] <Tal> i think i have one somewhere..
[11:20] <Nimwei> Any ideas on my problem with apt-get?  W: Not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock ;; E: Unable to write to /var/cache/apt/ ;; E: The package lists or statuf ile could not be parsed or opened.
[11:20] <ulisse> Tal: how old is your laptop?
[11:20] <Tal> would need to search it.
[11:20] <Tal> not new im afraid
[11:20] <holycow> SupermanOnTheRun, the cheapest and fastest answer to that is usually get a supported network card
[11:20] <Tal> its a fujisu lifebook bseries
[11:20] <Tal> fujitsu even*
[11:20] <Frankenstein> Nimwei, did you use sudo apt-get?
[11:20] <holycow> SupermanOnTheRun, you can spend far more hours on such issues than its worht it .... just my humble opinino
[11:20] <mwe> Tal: there are instructions on the wiki for how to boot to the cd from a floppy
[11:21] <Samus_Aran> there is also no "nmh" command, which it says is what mh is a virtual package for.  anyone have any clues why it doesn't work after apt-get install mh ?
[11:21] <SupermanOnTheRun> holycow: can you suggest a card?
[11:21] <Tal> ok. cool, ill have a looksy at the wiki, didnt realise you had one, should of guessed
[11:21] <Nimwei> Frankenstein - No, I'm logged in as root.
[11:21] <holycow> !nic
[11:21] <ubotu> I know nothing about nic - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:21] <holycow> !hardware
[11:21] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[11:21] <hEmmEr_ServEr> is there anyone here that can pm me and help me walk through setting up my network i have been reading stuff all day and i cant get it working right i have a desktop and a laptop both with ubuntu and i want to network them with 100mbit ethernet and i want to be able to access files from my deksop on my laptop
[11:21] <Frankenstein> Nimwei, even so, try using sudo
[11:21] <mwe> Tal: wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:21] <SupermanOnTheRun> thanks
[11:21] <Tal> ta mwe
[11:21] <Nimwei> Frankenstein - Just did, same problem.
[11:21] <mwe> yw
[11:21] <wirelain> What does a tan gui screen and a mouse pointer (in the center) that fails to move mean? (booted from 6.06 desktop cd on a celeron 433 @284mb ram)
[11:21] <Frankenstein> Samus_Aran, sudo updatedb than located program
[11:21] <holycow> SupermanOnTheRun, try the hardware support list ... you always want to use something you can copy paste rather than have me guess at a brand
[11:22] <tech9iner> nice nick.. know some 'micah's' micahcowan ;] 
[11:22] <mwe> Tal: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[11:22] <holycow> SupermanOnTheRun, i specifically buy EVERYTHING based around linux support.  It's all plug and play after that
[11:22] <mwe> Tal: the advanced section I think
[11:22] <holycow> SupermanOnTheRun, the enat thing is, brother actually not only supports linux with drivers for their devices, they have debian installers you can usually use
[11:23] <Samus_Aran> Frankenstein: I've already looked where it put things, I pasted those locations above.  it just doesn't actually work
[11:23] <natan-> gotta love that people expect all the drivers and everything in windows and for linux people buy hardware based on only the things that work :P
[11:23] <Tal> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[11:23] <Nimwei> Frankenstein - Any suggestions now? :)
[11:23] <harisund> Hello everyone! I was just wondering why I am able to ssh into a remote machine, but tracepath stops somewhere along the line?? What filters tracepath but not ssh packets?
[11:23] <SupermanOnTheRun> holycow: thank you I will check it out, I am learning that I should buy from the linux supported list
[11:23] <Tal> that seems about right, doesnt sound that easy though :o
[11:24] <byteshack> harisund: yes, my cygwin still works, it is using it's native .dlls
[11:24] <harisund> ah most interesting. Glad everything worked out byteshack
[11:24] <cica> anyone: am I right in saying that apt-get update will update my machine with all the latest updates including the lastest kernel release
[11:24] <mwe> Tal: follow it closely and you'll manage
[11:24] <Nimwei> cica - Use apt-get update, then apt-get upgrade
[11:24] <naa> ARGH
[11:24] <hEmmEr_ServEr> is there anyone here that can help me walk through setting up my network i have been reading stuff all day and i cant get it working right i have a desktop and a laptop both with ubuntu and i want to network them with 100mbit ethernet and i want to be able to access files from my deksop on my laptop
[11:24] <harisund> cica no. It only lets your machine know what all packages it has access to.
[11:24] <Nimwei> update updates the cache package list I believe, upgrade actually goes out and downloads all updates.
[11:25] <naa> why the hell can't things just work when I do them
[11:25] <holycow> SupermanOnTheRun, the thing is, you cant really buy stuff for windows without doing your research either.  half the time i buy stuff the drivers suck or there is some other issue with it so ...
[11:25] <harisund> hEmmEr_ServEr: what have you been trying?
[11:25] <ulisse> Tal: I made a quick search about b-series lifebook, I suggest you to install xubuntu instead of ubuntu, 'cause it's really lighter
[11:25] <naa> this is bullcrap :/
[11:25] <mwe> Tal: come back here if you get stuck
[11:25] <steve_Laptop> HELP! anyone runing cups from a print server? win I type lynx 127.0.1:631 Get get the cups interface but cant log in not even from root
[11:25] <cica> Nimwei: it's just i'm having a lot ot trouble when I run apt-get update
[11:25] <harisund> hEmmEr_ServEr: Are you using a crossover or a straight cable?
[11:25] <hEmmEr_ServEr> crossover
[11:25] <Nimwei> cica - What troubles?
[11:25] <cica> i.e. seeing alot of what appears to be errors
[11:25] <hEmmEr_ServEr> but how do i set it because im use to windows
[11:25] <cica> Nimwei: wee second
[11:26] <Tal> ulisse
[11:26] <hEmmEr_ServEr> i use to put ip of one to 192.168.110.10 and then i use that as the domain on my laptop to connect to
[11:26] <hEmmEr_ServEr> and i can access the other computer shares through 100mbit
[11:26] <Tal> it has enough space
[11:26] <hEmmEr_ServEr> i dont know if i even have that right so far
[11:26] <Tal> or is there other problems other than size?
[11:26] <Nimwei> Frankenstein - No further ideas?
[11:26] <hEmmEr_ServEr> and i have been trying to do samba shares
[11:26] <naa> DAMMIT
[11:26] <harisund> hEmmEr_ServEr: is it possible to connect either machne to the internet for a brief period of time? If possible I would like to have you install ssh server on one of them .
[11:27] <naa> What the fuck :/
[11:27] <yoni> Hi all
[11:27] <harisund> !language > naa
[11:27] <cica> Nimwei: problems such as: W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[11:27] <cica> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[11:27] <gnomefreak> naa: watch your language
[11:27] <hEmmEr_ServEr> i tryed this guide also and its not working for me http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=218630
[11:27] <steve_Laptop> HELP! anyone runing cups from a print server? win I type lynx 127.0.1:631 Get get the cups interface but cant log in not even from root
[11:27] <yoni> Where can I find an application that will act as Win32 emulator? I want to install & play Need for speed :\
[11:27] <hEmmEr_ServEr> i have wireless on the laptop
[11:27] <naa> :/
[11:27] <cica> Nimwei: can you please explain?
[11:27] <hEmmEr_ServEr> im connected on the desktop now to the internet
[11:27] <Nimwei> cica - Are you using sudo apt-get update?
[11:27] <gnomefreak> yoni: wine or cedega
[11:27] <naa> right
[11:27] <Nimwei> cica - "sudo apt-get update"
[11:27] <naa> so
[11:27] <cica> no just apt-get as root
[11:27] <ulisse> Tal: it is no matter of disk space, it is a problem of performance, Gnome is good but it is heavy about as windoze XP, while XFCE can be compared to win 98
[11:27] <recon0> Does anyone know of or is there a golf (not mini) game for linux? I can't find one.
[11:27] <harisund> hEmmEr_ServEr: ok first before you disconnect from the internet install the package 'openssh-server' on one of them.
[11:27] <yoni> whitch is better?
[11:28] <naa> check this out
[11:28] <Nimwei> cica -- Right, I'm having some apt-get problems right now too. It sucks ;)
[11:28] <gnomefreak> yoni: dont use either but wine is free cedega isnt
[11:28] <Tal> mm xubuntu
[11:28] <Tal> how large is that?
[11:28] <yoni> why not to use them?:\
[11:28] <Tal> CD wise,
[11:28] <cica> Nimwei: the same kinda ones I'm seeing?
[11:28] <Tal> spent 2hrs DLing the last one :P
[11:28] <gnomefreak> yoni: i dont play games i work :(
[11:28] <Nimwei> cica - No, mine are lock file related due to write restrictions.
[11:28] <mwe> yoni: most windows games dont't work with wine/cedega
[11:29] <yoni> So how can I run Windows games over ubuntu?:\
[11:29] <mwe> yoni: some are half-working and a few works 100%
[11:29] <cica> Nimwei: yeah I'm seeing ones like that too. you any ideas what the root cause is?
[11:29] <ulisse> Tal: I think that xubuntu is already inside the ubuntu cd, just matter of an install method, but really dunno...
[11:29] <mwe> yoni: you can't always
[11:29] <ulisse> !xubuntu
[11:29] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[11:29] <Samus_Aran> got nmh to work, sort of
[11:29] <gnomefreak> yoni: vmware allows yout o run windows in ubuntu iirc
[11:29] <naa> Installs Ubuntu -> Works -> Tries to Install windows -> Screws up ubuntu -> Works -> Nothing on Windows works at all -> Goes to ubuntu disc -> finds that all space is unallocated in partitioner -> installer gets errors -> installer crashes
[11:29] <Nimwei> cica - All I know is I just installed ubuntu today and downloaded all updates and the GDM GUI and rebooted..and now I'm having problems.
[11:29] <naa> what is going on!?
[11:29] <mwe> gnomefreak: it sucks for games
[11:30] <cica> Nimwei: good luck then! :-)
[11:30] <Tal> ok ulisse that last bit scared me, ill try the normal one..if i can get it to work
[11:30] <cica> Nimwei: & thanks
[11:30] <Tal> im a linux n00b so im not fussed about performance
[11:30] <Tal> if it works i can muck around with the laptop that i dont use
[11:30] <mwe> gnomefreak: directX support is only experimental and directX 9c is not supported at all
[11:30] <azrael0> Hey, I'm having some issues with my gl setup. I've got two sample errors:
[11:30] <naa> can anyone help me with this?
[11:30] <Tal> as long as it works
[11:30] <azrael0> http://fallenazrael.bounceme.net/~azrael/wowlog
[11:30] <azrael0> http://fallenazrael.bounceme.net/~azrael/doomlog
[11:30] <ulisse> Tal: good luck ;)
[11:30] <azrael0> glxinfo claims direct rendering is on.
[11:30] <azrael0> Ideas?
[11:31] <azrael0> (nvidia card, if it's relevant)
[11:31] <mwe> gnomefreak: it's the only reason I still have a windows PC. I'd love to ditch windows and run linux only
[11:31] <naa> GAH
[11:31] <wirelain> What does a tan gui screen and a mouse pointer (in the center) that fails to move mean? (booted from 6.06 desktop cd on a celeron 433 @284mb ram) I don't know well enough to describe this to search for pointers.)
[11:31] <naa> now the stupid installer crashed thing won't close
[11:31] <gnomefreak> wirelain: reboot
[11:32] <gnomefreak> wirelain: unplug mouse first and plug it back in maybe
[11:32] <wirelain> gnomefreak: any keystrokes that coul;d verify/disptove aliveness?
[11:32] <mixandgo> finnally managed to compile alsa-driver with vanila kernel 2.6.17 with rt8 patch. any ideea what it's needed for ubuntu to see my rme multiface II interface ?
[11:33] <wirelain> er disprove ...
[11:33] <FantasticFoo> glxgears doesn't provide fps info
[11:33] <FantasticFoo> it just shows me the gears
[11:33] <FantasticFoo> unlike on my fedora system
[11:33] <gnomefreak> wirelain: not that i know of off hand
[11:33] <FantasticFoo> anyone know why?
[11:33] <trappist> FantasticFoo: you have to give it a command line switch
[11:33] <gnomefreak> FantasticFoo: glxgears -printfps
[11:33] <Tal> ok doing well already have a question
[11:33] <Tal> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[11:33] <FantasticFoo> gnomefreak: oh, thanks
[11:33] <gnomefreak> FantasticFoo: try that command
[11:33] <mwe> FantasticFoo: glxinfo|grep direct is a better benchmark
[11:33] <FantasticFoo> mwe: oh, ok. thanks
[11:33] <Tal> what is rawrite -f sbootmgr.dsk
[11:34] <steve_Laptop> anyone no how to down grade cups im running 1.2.2 and its buggy
[11:34] <gnomefreak> mwe: direct gives fps output?
[11:34] <trappist> mwe: that's not a benchmark.  it says Yes or No.
[11:34] <mwe> Tal: the windows program to create the floppy
[11:34] <Tal> i dled sbootmgr.dsk
[11:34] <Tal> and the rawrite thingy
[11:34] <Nimwei> Ok, so if I reformat my partitions and set it to EXT3 will SAMBA allow my Windows box to access and transfer files?
[11:34] <mwe> gnomefreak: no but glxgears is NOT a benchmark
[11:34] <ulisse> Tal: it is a command you should issue in a linux terminal to write the disk image on a floppy
[11:34] <Luka1> I tried Xubuntu 6.06 on Intel Pentium III(667MHz, 192MB RAM, graphics: 3dfx Voodoo3, 17' monitor, 48x CD-ROM). After boot live CD I have resolution only 640x480. I havent more in settings. :-(
[11:34] <gnomefreak> mwe: i know
[11:34] <Tal> it needs a .img file for rawrite thing to work
[11:35] <Tal> if im following the instructions correctly..
[11:35] <Luka1> and my sound no go.
[11:35] <Tal> i dled rawrite
[11:35] <Tal> i now need a .img file
[11:35] <mwe> gnomefreak: that's why I suggested glxinfo instead as screen resolution, window size etc heavily influence the output of glxgears -printfps it's just as good a benchmark IMO :)
[11:35] <Nimwei> !fixres > Lukal
[11:36] <rexy> Q, on startup the network script doesnt assign me an ip, but is started, restarting it solves the problem, any idea's as too why it doesnt start the first time round?
[11:36] <Luka1> What can I do?
[11:36] <yoni> Hi again
[11:36] <Nimwei> rexy - You may want to edit the network interfaces file manually.
[11:36] <mwe> gnomefreak: or even better because it doesn't mislead you ;)
[11:36] <rexy> wich file would that be nimwei?
[11:36] <Nimwei> one sec, rexy
[11:36] <ulisse> Tal: sorry, rawrite isn't a linux command, it seems to be a DOS program...
[11:36] <yoni> I'm having Video card: Nvidia TI 4800 SE supports bouth screens ( VGA & TV ) How can I configure the TV screen to be side screen?
[11:37] <Luka1> I cannot install, because window isnt on all monitor.
[11:37] <gnomefreak> mwe: grepping direct does give fps (he asked about fps)
[11:37] <Tal> ok, bearing in mind im on XP now..
[11:37] <Nimwei> rexy - /etc/network/interfaces
[11:37] <Tal> im trying to make a bootcd for the other machine
[11:37] <FantasticFoo> would i have 3d accel if i got around 4200 fps on average? (default glxgears window size)
[11:37] <Nimwei> rexy - Are you using dhcp or static?
[11:37] <yoni> I mean that i can drag one window from my pc monitor to the left & there I'll have the TV monitor as well but shown another icons & such :)
[11:37] <gnomefreak> FantasticFoo: yes
[11:37] <rexy> dhcp
[11:37] <FantasticFoo> gnomefreak: ok, good
[11:37] <wirelain> gnomefreak: Thank you. (still rebooting)
[11:37] <Tal> perhaps im going the wrong way around this.
[11:37] <Nimwei> Try setting a static and see if it work
[11:37] <rexy> it's a static ip, but needs dynamic assignment due to routing further up the pipe
[11:37] <Nimwei> gotcha.
[11:37] <ulisse> Tal: does it work if you issue "rawwritewin.exe sbootmgr.dsk" ?
[11:38] <mwe> FantasticFoo: please use glxinfo|grep direct to see if you do
[11:38] <Luka1> Is there any howto for my problem?
[11:38] <Nimwei> If I use the EXT3 filesystem, can my windows clients access and modify files?
[11:38] <medfly> guys, what do i have to start to control the volume? i dont remember the command :)
[11:38] <Nimwei> Lukal, type !fixres
[11:38] <Tal> in rawrite i see only one place to select the file that is to be written
[11:38] <Tal> its asking for an image file
[11:38] <mwe> FantasticFoo: make the window really small if you think the fps is too low
[11:38] <mezoko> Hi
[11:38] <hawkaloogie> Nimwei, yes if you use samba
[11:38] <Tal> which is .img
[11:38] <Nimwei> hawk, cool
[11:38] <Tal> i think this is what im missing.
[11:38] <mezoko> Is there a reason why the ddclient deamons doesn't like starting?
[11:38] <FantasticFoo> mwe: heheh
[11:39] <ulisse> Tal: hmm... the image should be the .dsk file
[11:39] <Tal> it doesnt recognise it because it is .dsk
[11:39] <Tal> are they the same thing?
[11:39] <Luka1> Nimwei: Where have I type !fixres?
[11:39] <mwe> FantasticFoo: glxgears is a bad indicator
[11:39] <ulisse> Tal: dunno, try to rename it to .img, at least it won't work ;)
[11:40] <Tal> k :P
[11:40] <FantasticFoo> mwe, what would be a good one?
[11:40] <nu> !restricted
[11:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:40] <recon0> Does anybody else have a problem playing AU files? No audio player I use can play a .au file. Any help?
[11:40] <sola6662> how do i get java installed?
[11:40] <holycow> !java
[11:40] <rsk> !java
[11:40] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[11:40] <holycow> like that
[11:41] <sola6662> thx
[11:41] <holycow> rsk, you type too slow
[11:41] <Nimwei> Lukal, just type it here.
[11:41] <holycow> !fixres
[11:41] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:41] <Nimwei> !fixres > Lukal
[11:41] <Luka1> !fixres
[11:42] <vapermonkey> hi all
[11:42] <Tal> im actually struggling to format these bloody floppys i have
[11:42] <Tal> grr
[11:42] <BlueEagle> tal: how (which filesystem) are you attempting to format them in?
[11:42] <holycow> Tal, whats the prob?  you are using floppy formatter?
[11:42] <Tal> well im just right clicking format (this is still XP)
[11:42] <vapermonkey> i am trying to install unreal2004 and i cinda get it but it wont let me unmound my cd to put in the next one
[11:43] <trappist> vapermonkey: you have to copy the installer to hour home dir and run it from there
[11:43] <Luka1> I dont understand.
[11:43] <trappist> s/hour/your/
[11:43] <ulisse> Tal: I'm running RawRite under Wine, and i see that there is a "all files (*.*)" in the combo box, so you can load the .dsk file without renaming
[11:43] <erisco> hey everyone, Ubuntu is working completely fine but it fails to terminate the power to the computer after halting the OS. It ends up leaving me with a blank black screen, and again the power never terminates. This is a dual booting computer and Windows has no problem terminating the power. Any ideas?
[11:43] <Tal> ulisse then its the disks
[11:43] <vapermonkey> how do i go about that
[11:43] <Tal> i can get any to format
[11:43] <rexy> what runlvl does ubuntu start after s? think i'll just restart the networking script again for now
[11:43] <Tal> even though theyre empty
[11:43] <crimsun> rexy: 2
[11:43] <rexy> cheers
[11:44] <erisco> I am using a compaq, my previous compaq did not have these issues with Ubuntu. Both Ubuntu installs are 6.06
[11:44] <ulisse> Tal: I know, due to that my actual pc is floppy-less :D
[11:44] <trappist> vapermonkey: cp /media/cdrom0/linux_installer.sh (or whatever it is) /home/vapermonkey... then sudo ./linux_installer.sh
[11:44] <erisco> It is also an AMD
[11:44] <trappist> vapermonkey: quit the installer first
[11:44] <Bergcube> Angst. I have reinstalled my laptop, so I'm now on a fresh install of Dapper. An unfortunate change is that when I start Gaim now, I et no little icon up i the system tray. How can I persuade it to show up?
[11:44] <Tal> heh floppys r teh suck
[11:44] <Tal> YES!
[11:44] <Tal> one of them is formatting
[11:44] <Tal> stupid disks.
[11:44] <Tal> 4th try lucky
[11:45] <erisco> well thanks for the try anyways, see you all later
[11:45] <Tal> i need to find my floppy drive for the lappy now :/
[11:45] <Tal> could be bloody anywhere
[11:45] <TheGateKeeper> Bergcube: right click on it, select restore from the menu
[11:45] <vapermonkey> ok i get it
[11:46] <MetaMorfoziS> mi a tetves fasz van?
[11:46] <Tal> ha! or it could be the first place i look!
[11:46] <wirelain> thanks, in a functional gui ... now to figure out what to do!
[11:46] <Tal> yoink!
[11:46] <Kronospyder> So....this is the place for help on installing Ubuntu/Kubuntu?
[11:46] <FurryNemesis> Kronospyder, yep
[11:46] <Kronospyder> Perhaps someone would be so kind as to message me...I've built a custom 64bit system, and having some trouble installing.
[11:46] <trappist> !hu > MetaMorfoziS
[11:46] <escobar5> hello, does anybody know some utility for linux like a file explorer for bluetooth devices, like p2kcommander for win?
[11:47] <nemish> hello just curious as to where I can find bugs currently found in Edgy (6.10)
[11:47] <Bergcube> TheGateKeeper~  I only have the Gaim buddy list now.  No icon.  Right-clicking on the Gaim entry in the Applications meny gives no restore option.  I don't think I understand what you mean...
[11:47] <Kronospyder> I'm a bit computer savy, it shouldn't be long.
[11:47] <nemish> not sure if there is a ubuntu-dev or ubuntu-edgy group
[11:47] <micahcowan> ubuntu-edgy: #ubuntu+1  ... and #ubuntu-devel
[11:48] <Kronospyder> I say message just because I don't really want to flood the chat w/ info
[11:48] <TheGateKeeper> Bergcube: right click on the icon in the system tray should give you a menu??
[11:48] <Kronospyder> or is that ok here...it's related
[11:48] <slobokan> I am having issues with extended ascii characters showing in text editors and some Firefox tabs.  Anyone have an idea why I get boxes with numbers in them instead of the characters?
[11:48] <micahcowan> Kronospyder, use pastebin if it's more than a couple lines
[11:48] <Luka1> Please help me. How I get hight resolution on 3dfx Voodoo3?
[11:48] <micahcowan> !pastebin
[11:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:48] <FurryNemesis> Kronospyder, the alternate install cd is for you I think, just make sure to grab the 64bit version
[11:48] <Kronospyder> cool..thanks.just a minute.
[11:48] <escobar5> hello, does anybody know some utility for linux like a file explorer for bluetooth devices, like p2kcommander for win??
[11:49] <Bergcube> TheGateKeeper~  I DO HAVE the menu.  I DO NOT have the icon in the system tray.  That icon is what I want to get back.  The only sign of life I get from Gaim is the buddy list. Apologies if that wasn't clear in the first message I wrote.
[11:49] <Luka1> escobar:Konqueror can it.
[11:50] <lix> escobar5: check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=94713
[11:50] <Cornellius> I use KDM and on the services window it says that both KDM and GDM are started at boot.
[11:50] <Cornellius> Is it safe to tell GDM NOT to start at boot ?
[11:50] <ulisse> Bergcube: you have to enable the notification icon in gaim's plugins
[11:51] <TheGateKeeper> Bergcube: sorry I misunderstood thought you had an icon in the system tray, probable best to ask in #gaim, if all else fails reinstall sorry dunno
[11:51] <Bergcube> ulisse~  But Gaim USED TO have an icon in the tray ayway, just by itself.
[11:51] <Luka1>  Please help me. How get I any hight resolution on 3dfx Voodoo3?
[11:51] <Tal> damnit
[11:51] <Tal> didnt work
[11:51] <Tal> the floppy worked the boot managed showed.
[11:52] <Tal> but even after rescan all boot records
[11:52] <Tal> the CDrom didnt show up
[11:52] <Tal> :(
[11:52] <azrael0> Hey, I'm having some issues with my gl setup. I've got two sample errors:
[11:52] <azrael0> http://fallenazrael.bounceme.net/~azrael/doomlog
[11:52] <azrael0> http://fallenazrael.bounceme.net/~azrael/wowlog
[11:52] <mwe> Cornellius: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm will set the default dm
[11:52] <lix> Luka1: Check http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-18106.html
[11:52] <azrael0> It's an nvidia card if that's relevant.
[11:52] <azrael0> Ideas?
[11:52] <Cornellius> mwe: I want to keep KDM as the default DM.
[11:52] <mwe> Cornellius: gdm doesn't start if it's not the default dm
[11:53] <Bergcube> ulisse~  Tools / Plugin Actions says "no acions available"....
[11:53] <mwe> Cornellius: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm will set the default dm despite the name it also handles kdm
[11:53] <Luka1> lix?Thanks for your intrest.
[11:53] <Cornellius> mwe: Thanks
[11:53] <ulisse> hmm... Bergcube, there surely is something wrong...
[11:53] <lix> Luka1: :) I've no idea. But I think that's the relevant URL for you.
[11:53] <Cornellius> If you don't do MIDIs it's ok to disable TiMiDity ?
[11:54] <kaot> azrael0: what happens when you try to run glxgears?
[11:54] <ulisse> Bergcube: do you use gaim from the official repos?
[11:54] <azrael0> Gears appear and spin.
[11:54] <Tal> damnit..in the Q+A it says it doesnt recognise external cdroms doh
[11:54] <kaot> azrael0: then I'm stumped.  :D
[11:54] <Bergcube> ulisse~  I think so too.  Gaim works, but gives me no system tray icon.  Of course it's from the off.repo.  It's the one Dapper had default.
[11:54] <azrael0> kaot: If I do glxgears -printfps, I get 3000 fps, but my cpu spikes.
[11:55] <azrael0> (the cpu spike seems odd)
[11:55] <Kronospyder> ok..I'm a noob with this..sorry...with regard to the Pastebin, I should copy/paste that one line here now, yes?
[11:55] <Tal> anyone have any good ideas?
[11:55] <ulisse> Bergcube: try "sudo dpkg --reconfigure gaim"
[11:55] <micahcowan> Kronospyder, you mean the link? yes.
[11:55] <Bergcube> ulisse~  Good idea.  Should I use ps -aux to find and kill al of gaim first?
[11:56] <ulisse> Bergcube: sorry, "sudo dpkg --configure gaim"
[11:56] <steve_Laptop> ok I need some help on a print server please....
[11:56] <Kronospyder> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20151
[11:56] <jp_> dudes, I can delete windows partitions from fdisk http://restrex.dotgeek.org/fdisk.jpg
[11:56] <Luka1> Is possible edit xorg.conf file in run live CD? I cannot install on harddisk.
[11:56] <jp_> thanks :)
[11:56] <ulisse> Bergcube: maybe an "apt-get install --reinstall gaim" should work
[11:57] <brownster> azrael0,  hi have u tried glxinfo
[11:57] <Bergcube> ulisse~  so hould I try the dpkg or apt approach first?
[11:57] <ulisse> Bergcube: basically it's the same
[11:57] <azrael0> brownster: Yes, what info do you want from it?
[11:58] <azrael0> azrael@mobileDemon ~ $glxinfo | grep directrndirect rendering: Yes
[11:58] <Bergcube> ulisse~  Ok.  I will test it right away.  Tell you soon.  BRB.
[11:58] <brownster> azrael0,  which card do u have?
[11:58] <azrael0> brownster: nvidia quadro
[11:59] <brownster> azrael0, i was just wondering if your sys is defaulting to the software rendering, mesa it think its called?
[12:00] <jp_> hi dudes, I cant delete windows partitions from fdisk http://restrex.dotgeek.org/fdisk.jpg how can I fix that?
[12:00] <azrael0> brownster: In theory this is possible, but speed is not my primary concern at the moment. My concern is getting the GL apps up and running--it's not that they run slow, it's that they don't run.
[12:00] <escobar5> lix, thanks but what i am searching is a utility that let me see the directory tree of my bluetooth device
[12:00] <owen_> what command do you use to change read write access to directories/files
[12:00] <azrael0> owen_: chmod
[12:00] <Poromenos> where can i change gnome's default "text and buttons" in toolbars?