[12:11] Riddell: thnxs === hunger [n=tobias@p54A623ED.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:28] Riddell: mdz ok'd the UVF pending your ACK [12:28] imbrandon: cool, I'll try and upload that later this evening [12:29] kk ( he commented on the bug if your looking for it, no reply to email ) [12:35] imbrandon: have you been building konversation nightlies still, or are you kind of waiting for it to be somewhat "Late breaking" ;) [12:36] dapper i have, edgy it as FTBFS last i looked, i'll look again soon [12:36] soon === 2 hours [12:36] hmm..i haven't seen the updates [12:36] i might need to sync the packages [12:36] ahhh [12:36] ok [12:36] err sync the pool [12:36] anything new? you know what im lookin' for ;) [12:36] not anything your wanting hehe [12:36] arg [12:36] that wont hit the 0.19 series [12:36] it will hit 2.0 [12:37] err 0.20 [12:37] i thought he said it will be out this month? [12:37] sho that is [12:37] yea it will but in 0.20 , they are trying to get it out for edgy ( before sept 7th ) [12:37] look at there schedule iot explains it ;) [12:37] guess i will wait a little longer ;) [12:38] have you tried kvirc? [12:38] not since i did the merge for it, and then was only to make sure it "worked" [12:38] i dont realy like the UI of it [12:38] same here, but it is an IRC client on steroids [12:39] you can customise the ui of course, but the work involved in that is greater then install bsd w/o a monitor [12:39] yea it takes as long as kdelibs to complie , heh just kidding but serouisly it takes a LONG time for an irc client to compile [12:40] since i got you here imbrandon, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Knot2/Kubuntu is darn close to done [12:40] imbrandon: they are on a Ubuntu cycle? [12:40] what is up with getting a release page for it on Kubuntu.org? === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:40] DaSkreech: yea [12:40] nixternal: thats Riddell department [12:40] Hee hee so KDE is following gnome :) [12:40] figures ;) [12:40] DaSkreech: no konversation not all of KDE [12:41] Well it's a start === DaSkreech is still upset that edubunut is stripping out KDE [12:43] DaSkreech: http://konversation.kde.org/wiki/Release_Schedule .... quote " Bar any unforseen blockers, release Konversation 0.20. This puts us a week before the scheduled Kubuntu Edgy feature freeze, giving them time to package. " [12:43] I love the power of community :) [12:44] DaSkreech: they are? [12:44] DaSkreech: how is KDE following gnome? [12:44] Riddell: Ridiculous extrapolation :) [12:44] hrm brb food time [12:45] DaSkreech: and FYI afaik ubuntu's release was scheduled arround gnome not the other way arround [12:45] anyhow afk a few [12:46] imbrandon: That's the point [12:48] Anyone using kdevelop? In dapper when I create a new project I only get 'custom' aka empty license template. not GPL LGPL etc [12:49] templates are in /usr/share/apps/kdevelop3/licenses (but afaiu new projects are created by kdevappwizard === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === toma [n=toma@toma.kovoks.nl] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Ooh,] [12:53] I wish kate would stop crashing [12:57] take away the keys === imbrandon thinks there should be a Riddell international holiday ;) [01:00] hmm? [01:01] heh just cuz you rock in getting kubuntu together , no reason , i was just mouthin off really [01:01] lol [01:01] spookyly enough I was just talking to my girlfriend about holidays [01:01] hahaha [01:01] Riddellday [01:02] i dunno about kate ( dont use it much ) but if kmail would stop crashing i would kiss the person that fixed it ( not really ) [01:02] Hmm mightypea brings up an interesting point [01:03] actuly i think its the way it handles imap, becouse if i set my mailboxes up as pop it dosent crash [01:03] can You have it so that customizing the live CD session makes that the default for kubuntu once you hit install === imbrandon might look for other bug reports later [01:04] DaSkreech: there are ways of doing that, its not point and click though [01:04] i made a custom cd that installs the defaults i added ( not distrubuted though as it has w32codecs and lots of other stuff ) [01:05] Yeah would be nice if it was a checkbox option in install. Would you like a) default b) your current desktop as the settings when installed? [01:05] i use it for me and my family ( and some few at my lug ) actualy its a dvd becouse i added alot [01:05] and replaced oo.o with koofice and lots of stuff actualy [01:05] lol [01:05] Well This would be cooler [01:06] You could have one CD then go to someone's house play around with it till you get it to the point where they are wowed then click and there it is. Exactly they way they liked it [01:06] write a spec / bug / whatever and poke the ubiguity devs [01:06] get it going then ;) [01:06] hehe [01:07] we can't touch w32codecs [01:08] CD customisations can also be done with casper-cow [01:08] i.e. using a USB stick to keep your changes [01:08] Riddell: This is for install [01:08] not across sessions. Though that is welcome as well [01:09] Yep Edubuntu is dumping KDE [01:09] yea i mostly made it for my little brother so he could put my custom kubuntu cd in the drive and hit install and it installs all that "extra" stuff we cant do legaly [01:09] heh, nice quite some pkgs from dapper-{updates,security} have higher version that the edgy one :( [01:09] ouch [01:09] thats not good [01:09] As long as they are tested [01:09] yeah. pmount, firefox .. [01:10] allee: they dont use ~ ? [01:10] imbrandon: no [01:10] heh wonderfull [01:10] tats gonna be a nightmare later if we dont fix it up now [01:10] allee: file bugs [01:10] no kubuntu packages should be like that anyway :) [01:10] I've both dapper and edgy in sources.list for easy apt-cache policy etc [01:11] hehe ;) [01:11] Hmm whats up with http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20125? [01:11] Riddell: sorry to disappoint you kubuntu-docs is one ;) [01:11] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20125 ? [01:12] allee: fooey [01:12] allee: I've been putting off updating that [01:12] X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 <--- you have the laptop stuff in your xorg.conf === DaSkreech putters off to check that [01:12] Debian dak refuses to accept those in the archive [01:13] imbrandon: it just means something is trying to draw or access an X object that doesn't exist [01:13] imbrandon: it's annoying buy harmless [01:13] DaSkreech: ^^ [01:14] allee: refuses ~ package? it should accept those now [01:14] Riddell: yea its caused by ther are 3 pointer devices in the default xorg.conf that arent used by most computers [01:14] like the touchpad , eraser mouse etc [01:14] I'm concenred that a simple apt-get should throw that many errors though [01:14] imbrandon: right [01:14] apt-get shouldn't, it doesn't use X [01:14] Riddell: not the '~'. It was annouced today that '~' is okay now. [01:14] unless you have debconf setup to use X I guess [01:15] DaSkreech: those xerrors will throw from any gui app rin from console, as Riddell said harmless but annoying [01:15] Yeah I know. But .. this is apt-get [01:15] Riddell: I mean you can upload anything to sarge-proposed-updates with a version higher/lower than unstable/stable [01:15] I don't have a laptop thing [01:15] I do have wacom though :( [01:15] DaSkreech: yea i dunno why its wanting x [01:15] allee: clever [01:15] Oh wait those are the laptop things :-P [01:15] ok, who wants to test somethnig fun? [01:16] Riddell: sure wasup ? [01:16] imbrandon: are you sure? this is going to be very exciting... [01:16] dang kate won't comment :( [01:16] hahaha Riddell as long as i dont have to reboot i'm game [01:16] sudo rm -rf / ? [01:16] DaSkreech: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/hda [01:16] announcing, our new power manager! http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/bzr/powermanager/ [01:17] cool , it dont have to be used on a lappy ? [01:17] imbrandon: it won't do much on a non-laptop but it needs testing still to make sure it successfully doesn't do much [01:17] heh ok [01:17] also it needs gnome-power-manager installed for now (just for the icons) [01:18] actually you might well be able to hibernate/suspend from a non-laptop [01:19] k grabbing now === ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Riddell] : http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/bzr/powermanager/ | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuEdgyPackageUpdates | Buglist at https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings [01:20] brandon@voyager:~/files/devel/pm/powermanager$ python guidance-power-manager.py [01:20] Traceback (most recent call last): [01:20] File "guidance-power-manager.py", line 37, in ? [01:20] import dbus [01:20] ImportError: No module named dbus [01:21] you'll be wanting python2.4-dbus [01:21] kk [01:24] Riddell: http://pastebin.ca/124319 [01:25] this is on a non-laptop, later this evening i can grab my iBook and test on a lappy too ( dunno how it will work on an apple laptop ) === omeow [n=omega@co63471-a.olden1.ov.home.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:27] strange, it thinks you have a pluggable AC adaptor [01:27] heh === poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-251-119-70.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:27] does it matter that on this computer i have to disable acpi to boot === imbrandon dunno what that has to do with it === claydoh [n=clay@66-252-37-62.da.midmaine.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:28] imbrandon: ok, grab http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/bzr/powermanager/guidance-power-manager.py again [01:28] k [01:30] woot ok its running now, no icon in the try ( and yea i installed gnome-power-manager [01:30] ) but its running , will test a little more [01:30] s/try/tray [01:30] just an empty spot where the icon should be [01:30] and if you click on it? [01:30] yup [01:30] the gui comes up [01:30] groovy [01:31] do you have /usr/share/gnome-power-manager/battery-charged.png? [01:31] one sec, saving a ss then i'll look [01:32] if there are 2 bugs that are the same (duplicates), can I mark one as a duplicate, and confirm the other? Since 2 people have the same bug? example: bug 51070 and bug 52217 [01:32] Malone bug 51070 in kdepim "crashes on exit" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/51070 [01:32] Malone bug 52217 in kdepim "Kontact crash when quit" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/52217 [01:32] ryanakca: yes, please do [01:33] Riddell: no the only thing in that directy are 4 .glade files [01:33] Riddell: kk, ty... just wondering... after that motu-school course on bug triaging, the instructor had said it depended on the bug :) [01:34] Riddell: http://imbrandon.sytes.net/pm1.png [01:34] the area between amarok and the clock is where i can click [01:34] ryanakca: you just have to be sure they are the same bug [01:35] imbrandon: ah, it's all changed in edgy [01:35] Riddell: from what I can see, they are... only thing different is the numbers in the debugging output, like the "0xb7066eb9" in #12 0xb7066eb9 in QObject::activate_signal () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 [01:36] Riddell: i'm on edgy [01:36] ohhh nvm read that wrong [01:37] imbrandon: put http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/bzr/powermanager/gnome-power-manager.tar.gz into /usr/share/gnome-power-manager/ [01:37] k [01:37] the contents of that tar that is [01:37] hehe yea [01:40] yup that works [01:40] looks like my osx icon on my lappy ;) [01:40] aren't os x icons black and white? [01:40] sometimes, you can choose [01:40] default they are ya [01:41] does the gui in that screen shot look like it should ? [01:41] as in the greyed out selections [01:42] imbrandon: it seems to think you have a battery but no brightness control [01:42] hehe [01:42] imbrandon: what does lshal | grep battery give you? [01:42] any output from something else i can give you ? [01:42] one sec [01:43] brandon@voyager:~/files/devel/pm/powermanager$ lshal | grep battery [01:43] udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/apm_battery' [01:43] info.udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/apm_battery' (string) [01:43] battery.present = false (bool) [01:43] info.capabilities = {'battery'} (string list) [01:43] info.category = 'battery' (string) [01:43] battery.type = 'primary' (string) [01:44] note like i said on this computer acpi has to be disabled , that screw with some PM stuff from what i've read , dunno how or even exactly what it does [01:44] but i boot with acpi=off kernel parm [01:46] curious [01:46] imbrandon: if you run gnome-power-manager does that show up? [01:46] umm dunno lemme try [01:47] g-p-m wont run , well dosent look it is [01:47] no error either though [01:48] yea nothing [01:48] no icon , no gui , no error [01:49] what does lshal | grep ac_adapter give you? [01:49] brandon@voyager:~/files/devel/pm/powermanager$ lshal | grep ac_adapter [01:49] udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/apm_ac_adapter' [01:49] info.udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/apm_ac_adapter' (string) [01:49] ac_adapter.present = true (bool) [01:49] info.capabilities = {'ac_adapter'} (string list) [01:49] info.category = 'ac_adapter' (string) [01:49] so I wonder how gnome-power-manager knows not to show itself [01:50] hrm ps ax shows it running [01:50] though [01:51] brandon@voyager:~/files/devel/pm/powermanager$ ps ax|grep power [01:51] 2870 ? Ss 0:00 gnome-power-manager [01:52] brb one sec, gonna refill my mt dew [01:52] imbrandon: this gives me a pretty large diff. diff -urN current/ktorrent-1.2/debian/ ktorrent-2.0/debian/ === ryanakca [n=ryanakca@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:53] you even changed the Maintainer field [01:53] please re-package against the current version === Riddell snoozes === DaSkreech grins === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:57] k back [01:57] kk === leonardovaz [n=lmvaz@201.21.251.95] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel === leonardovaz [n=lmvaz@201.21.251.95] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrando1 [n=brandon@CPE-72-135-8-5.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:10] hi@Hobbsee [03:11] hi DaSkreech :) [03:11] How are you? [03:13] DaSkreech: i'm okay. mum didnt hack into me today, like she has for the past month or so :) [03:14] Mi mum's on vacation for a month so she's going to get pretty mellow over the next few days [03:15] heh [03:16] morning all [03:16] hi freeflying === erov [n=j@c-69-247-101-157.hsd1.ms.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:19] Hobbsee: hey === claydoh [n=clay@66-252-35-208.da.midmaine.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:45] Hobbsee: my merge has been done..well actually requested a sync ;) [03:45] nixternal: yay. did you get a MOTU to ack it? [03:45] nixternal: and this was kflickr? [03:45] imbrandon did [03:45] yes [03:46] nixternal: were the md5sums of the debian and ubuntu tarballs the same? [03:46] Hobbsee: yes [03:46] yes [03:46] oh cool === Hobbsee wonders why it was a manual merge then. oh, packaged differently, i guess === Hobbsee got caught with some of those packages doign the manual merges - with the .orig.tar.gz's not being the same. [03:48] well i think the debian maintainer used the ubuntu version in this case [03:49] heh === Hobbsee wonders why she isnt getting main from ubuntu-devel at all === Hobbsee unsubscribes, then resubscribes to the non-digest version [03:54] hobbsee, i had to do all my mailing list stuff yesterday or the day b4 after changing email address..it wasn't fun [03:55] nixternal: heh. you can set the change of email address, you know [03:56] ya, and that broke everything for me [03:56] what suprises me is that i'm still getting stuff from all the other lists - just not that one. [03:56] and i'm still getting all the bugmail, which is nice :) === erov [n=j@c-69-247-101-157.hsd1.ms.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["."] === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@221.221.160.148] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:50] http://ubuntu-ca.org/official-desktop-happy-corey.png === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Burgundavia takes a seat for the fireworks [04:52] rofl [04:52] oh dear [04:52] hahah [04:52] should nixternal be booted for trolling? :) [04:52] NOOOO [04:53] ;p [04:53] actually, i was hoping Hobbsee was around for that one [04:54] nixternal: she would likely rag me for it [04:54] oh, she would chase me with a pointy stick, guaranteed [04:54] she's far too nice to do that :) [04:54] hehe, im not falling for that one ;) === hunger [n=tobias@p54A64177.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:40] omg someone is gonna make me bust out inkscape and make a KDE one [05:46] muhahah [05:46] do eeet [05:47] sadly, my 3x5 banner is bigger than yours ;) [06:10] imbrando1: ping === Lathiat [n=lathiat@ubuntu/member/pdpc.basic.lathiat] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.86.178] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:57] hi all [06:57] bwhahaha [06:57] heya freeflying_ [06:58] wasup? === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.86.178] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@trider-g7.fabbione.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Topic for #kubuntu-devel: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/bzr/powermanager/ | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuEdgyPackageUpdates | Buglist at https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings === Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by Riddell at Thu Aug 10 01:20:33 2006 [09:13] (nixternal/#kubuntu-devel) there is an index.desktop file that translate the name of the theme i guess [09:14] (nixternal/#kubuntu-devel) some of the translations though i can keep, as they are easily translated [09:14] /usr/share/apps/konversation/themes [09:14] pick on, there is an index.desktop file in there to take a peak at [09:19] i'm still not sure what your trying to do , or what your asking me === Starting logfile irclogs/kubuntu-devel.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Topic for #kubuntu-devel: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/bzr/powermanager/ | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuEdgyPackageUpdates | Buglist at https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings === Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by Riddell at Thu Aug 10 01:20:33 2006 [09:34] http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/display?content=5789 [09:34] that is classic right there, and people wonder why us Linux people are cool === verwilst [n=verwilst@212.123.1.32] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === omeow [n=omega@co63471-a.olden1.ov.home.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:09] -- Start of Hobbsee (see, more than 24 hours before the meeting!) ;) where is that pointy stick? [10:09] nixternal: hehe. i've hidden it :P [10:10] i need to add an agenda for future "knot release" information as well [10:10] nixternal: shoot :) === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Ex-Chat"] [10:11] is kde supposed to be broken in edgy? [10:12] it isn't broken here [10:12] that i can notice [10:12] kdesktop kdm and konqueror [10:13] http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/124857 [10:14] seaLne: dodgy mirror. [10:14] all fine here. [10:15] you have kcontrol 4:3.5.4-0ubuntu5? [10:15] seaLne: er, nope? [10:15] seaLne: apt-cache policy kcontrol? [10:16] konqueror depends on ubuntu5 of kcontrol and kdesktop [10:16] seaLne: when did those packages come thru? [10:17] accepted 1230 yesterday [10:17] hmmm okay [10:18] where are the build info again? [10:18] seaLne: launchpad.net/buildds? [10:18] seaLne: it's off the main LP pages, anyway [10:19] or look it up via source package [10:19] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/4:3.5.4-0ubuntu5 === el [n=konversa@u40-30.dsl.vianetworks.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:20] hmm got them now [10:20] seaLne: must just be hitting the archives or something [10:21] repeated attempts at apt foo seem to have sorted it maybe bad timing [10:22] weird that it took till some point overnight for me to get them as it says they were built yesterday afternoon === seaLne shrugs [10:23] seaLne: exactly. maybe just as weird that the gb mirrors dont seem to have them [10:23] and htey're not hte mirrors, iirc [10:24] all of archive.u.c are mirrors they get pushed to afaik [10:26] likely === Hobbsee shrugs too === Hobbsee goes back to syncing and merging. [10:26] heh === seaLne enjoys morning tasks of reading mailer-deamon errors and backup logs [10:27] heh === superstoned [n=supersto@168-234.surfsnel.dsl.internl.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:59] Hobbsee, have you tried the latest konversation build yet? [10:59] Oh wait.. there still aren't nightlies for konvi on edgy, are there? [10:59] omeow: no, i havent. i dont think so. poke imbrandon [10:59] omeow: what's in it? [10:59] Why don't you try building it yourself? [11:00] Well, the kickban command for one. Resizable font on the tab bar. [11:00] omeow: mainly cos i cant be bothered :P [11:00] omeow: nice! [11:01] Hobbsee: i added a brief "knot release" agenda for tomorrows meeting..give it a looksy and make sure it is ok ;) ty [11:01] nixternal: nice :) === Hobbsee looks [11:02] nixternal: nice. [11:02] kool [11:02] nixternal: did you see sabdfl's stuff on planet? [11:02] was interesting - the definitions of edgy, etc [11:02] yes i did [11:05] on aug 06? [11:06] rob: sounds about right [11:06] heh cool [11:06] my blog was mentioned in that [11:07] rob: nice1 === Hobbsee didnt realise there was such a difference in user/developer perspective of "edgy" [11:08] yeah, Dapper felt pretty "edgy" for most [11:09] Riddell: does that powermanager stuff requrie testing, or something? === omeow [n=omega@co63471-a.olden1.ov.home.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:12] hmm 9x ~500K/s downloads from release and cdimage :) [11:13] seaLne: nice :) [11:16] ok, is it me, or am i going crazy...if you goto KDE Help Center, and want to search something, is it impossible? like you can't click the "Search" button because it is grayed out? [11:16] kde 3.5.4 here on dapper btw [11:16] type something! [11:16] i did [11:16] heh [11:17] you have to select "All" under "Scope selection" [11:17] ah maybe i had at some point [11:18] i wonder if that is something that can be enabled by default [11:18] im wondering if it is possible to search more than man pages === nixternal beds [11:22] see you all in about 7 hours ;) [11:29] night nixternal [11:29] 7 hours? heh [11:29] meeting's not that early === goldenear [n=goldenea@vol75-4-82-225-33-186.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:32] Hobbsee: yes pleas [11:33] Riddell: how? [11:33] Riddell: compile, then test, or whta? [11:33] Hobbsee: download, run [11:33] Riddell: right. run how? [11:33] it's python, no compiling [11:33] python guidance-power-manager.py [11:53] yay. more meetings === Hobbsee sets two things to build on imbrandon's machine, and goes home. === insanekane [n=kane@202.83.32.119] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:00] mornfall: Fedora doesn't split xine? [12:00] no idea [12:00] how split? [12:00] mornfall: to split out mp3 [12:01] seems they don't ship xine so they had to add back the not-yet-finished gstreamer plugin in amarok [12:01] we don't ship amarok [12:02] and neither xine [12:02] bummer [12:02] amarok is in fedora extras, but not xine [12:02] so yeah, probably using gst [12:02] there's livna for that anyway [12:03] (which ships xine with mp3 support) === fritsch [i=UuKYDQpo@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mdz [n=mdz@studiocity-motorola-bsr1-70-36-194-85.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:28] Riddell: testing out power manager. well, grabbing it to test === Riddell gets nervous [12:30] Riddell: why nervous? [12:30] because if it formats your hard disk I'll be in trouble [12:31] Riddell: indeed. should i backup before this? [12:31] no [12:31] it'll all be fine [12:33] Riddell: and what, i run.... [12:34] ./guidance_power_manager_ui.py presumably [12:34] yes [12:34] sarah@sarah:~/guidancepowermanager$ ./guidance_power_manager_ui.py [12:34] from: can't read /var/mail/qt [12:34] from: can't read /var/mail/kdecore [12:34] from: can't read /var/mail/kdeui [12:34] ./guidance_power_manager_ui.py: line 18: syntax error near unexpected token `(' [12:34] ./guidance_power_manager_ui.py: line 18: `class GuidancePowerManagerUI(QDialog):' [12:35] but, if i run guidance-power-manager.py i get a pretty blank box, which contains interesting power-management-like bits [12:35] and if you click on it? [12:36] sorry, if i click on it, then it shows the lovely dialog about screen brightening, etc [12:36] called guidance power manager [12:36] it has no icon though. [12:36] mains power brightness works :) [12:37] same with the battery [12:37] power [12:37] rocking [12:37] there's a right click suspend/hibernate too. === Hobbsee wonders if they work. [12:38] you can put the contents of this into /usr/share/gnome-power-manager to get the icons http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/bzr/powermanager/gnome-power-manager.tar.gz [12:40] ahhh :) [12:40] Riddell: there's a bug in the tooltip, it doesnt show up [12:40] Riddell: there's stuff in the terminal about it [12:41] paste? [12:41] pastebinning it now :) [12:41] Riddell: http://rafb.net/paste/results/5xK7TG71.html === My8os [n=My8os@ppp144-143.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #Kubuntu-devel [12:42] hmm, fooey [12:42] I changed that late last night [12:42] Riddell: ditto with the battery length tooltip === Hobbsee wonders how accurate the icon is [12:43] closest 20% [12:43] nice [12:51] Hobbsee: can you pastebin the battery length errors too? [12:52] Riddell: http://rafb.net/paste/results/sb7UlQ74.html is the entire thing [12:52] seaLne: fancy a packaging challenge? qt4ruby needs packaged (at last I don't think anyone is working on it) [12:53]