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danexImacd I will post the results later12:08
macdsince itunes librarys are XML and amaroks dynamic playlists are XML, thats a yes.12:08
danexmacd thanks12:08
kickass331Ok I installed it, but it isn't working completely12:09
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Argaili am trying to import a key for automatix but i get gcc - command not found,i have installed gcc-4.0 base,do i need to install gcc-4.0 also?12:11
macdArgail importing keys has nothing todo with GCC.12:11
obf213anyone here know how to make a c program on k developer12:12
Argailwell i read that i have to run this command "gcc -impor key.gpg.asc"12:12
wordI just put in a new sata hd..how do i mount it?12:12
Argaili run it but i get what i told before12:12
macdArgail not gcc, gpg :P12:12
Argailok,looks lype a typo mistake on the article12:12
obf213i but in some sample code for hello world and it never give me the option to buil the program, but when i open the premaide code its the same so why can i build mine12:12
Argailtrue,under that it has gpg -export12:13
macdobf213 try gcc input.c -o output in console.12:13
macdif that doesnt work, then you dont have a compiler installed, thus kdevelop cant compile.12:14
obf213no such files12:14
obf213no directory imput.c it says12:14
BluesKajArgail, just go here, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13840512:14
obf213input.c*12:14
macdobf213, obviously replace input.c with YOUR c program12:15
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jon_can anyone tell me what error code 1 means12:15
crimsunin what context?12:15
macdjon_ error code 1 in what context?12:15
macdto late ;)12:16
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paul_macd: i'm trying to install automatix, but i cant save anything to sources.list12:17
macdpaul_ : sudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list12:17
macdmust be root privilages :P12:18
paul_do i type that in konsole?12:18
macdyes sir12:18
excitatoryno12:18
excitatoryuse nano12:18
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excitatorypico is probably not on your system12:18
macdit doesnt matter.12:18
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macdpico installs by default.12:18
excitatoryah, you're right12:18
excitatoryhey presto!12:18
jon_macd  E: sub process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)12:19
jon_in regards to mldonkey12:19
jon_it didnt work when i installed it, and it wont uninstall12:19
macdare you trying to sudo apt-get remove mldonkey ?12:19
jon_yes i tried that and tried through synaptic as well12:20
jon_same error12:20
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obf213macd do i how do i type in the info12:20
obf213it wont let me cd to the directory12:20
macdobf213 type what info? and what directory do you have your C project saved in?12:20
obf213its in the desktop in a folder12:21
word!sata12:21
ubotuI know nothing about sata - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu12:21
macdword, new sata drive?12:21
obf213cd */Desktop doesnt work anymore12:21
wordyes macd12:21
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macdobf213: cd ~home/Desktop12:21
TheGateKeeper!info sata12:21
ubotuPackage sata does not exist in dapper12:21
wordmacd: do you know what i need to do ?12:21
macdword, well is that the second harddrive12:21
obf213macd i got an error12:22
obf213timi@timi-laptop:~$ pwd12:22
obf213/home/timi12:22
_davidhola a todos12:22
wordmacd: yes12:22
macdobf213 : cd /home/timi/Desktop12:22
macdword, great, then just goto fstab and add the following:12:22
obf213thanks12:22
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Smoophobf213: its cd ~/Desktop not cd */Desktop12:23
macdword actualy have you ran kpartd or something yet to partition and format the drive?12:23
wordno not yet uh12:24
macdahh, well go into kde menu, system settings, disks, and partition and format it, I think there also are provisions for adding to fstab, so that it wil mount.12:25
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paul_macd: what do i do after i open up that little thing in konsole12:25
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macdpaul_ you were trying to add the automatix repo?12:25
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wordmacd: what do i put for the device /dev/sda1?12:26
macdword, its prolly /dev/sda1 yes.12:26
paul_idk, it said on the site to add a certain line to sources.list, so that's what i did, but i had that problem with permission12:26
macdsata is treated as scsi, so that should be correct12:26
macdpaul_ yes then add that line12:27
macdthen hit crtl + x then choose to save12:27
obf213hey macd nothing happened i tried to open the hello word file that comes intalled with kdeveloper this gcc way and it didnt work12:27
macdthen follow the further instructions12:27
obf213no error or anything i just didint c it open12:27
macdyour not trying to open the file, your trying to compile it.12:27
obf213o ok12:27
wordmacd er that doesn't partition it it seems12:27
djk_is it common that 6.06 install doesn't get past 'loading hardware drivers' ?12:27
paul_macd: ok gotcha12:27
macddjk_ sometimes, dbal takes a while12:28
macdlet it sit for a few more minutes.12:28
macdword, interesting, try /dev/hdb112:28
jon_macd do you know what i can do to fix my problem?12:28
macdword heh actualy, try /dev/sda12:28
macdjon_ that error code 1 usualy means your out of disk space.12:29
djk_macd: i did.. whatever happened to the simple install of the previous releases?12:29
macddappers livecd install is as easy as it gets.12:29
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macdlet it load in the graphical desktop click the install icon and watch it go12:29
jon_i have 22G available12:29
djk_macd: if it works, perhaps..12:29
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macddjk_  given ;)12:29
macdreboot, try again12:30
macdjon_ : try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get remove mldonkey12:30
obf213macd i got this error line when i tried with my own program12:30
obf213ljnln.c:6:2: warning: no newline at end of file12:30
djk_macd: na, installed 5.10 again12:30
macdahhh12:30
macdI have great luck with dapper12:30
_davidalguien habla espaol12:30
macd_david join #kubuntu-es12:30
_davidok12:31
jon_i did12:31
jon_i found that code on a forum12:31
macdwell thats a command not a code :P12:31
jon_thats what i meant, my bad12:31
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macdobf213: then your program has code errors.12:31
jon_couldnt find package mldonkey12:32
jon_is what it came up with12:32
macdjon_ didnt you say you installed mldonkey?12:32
obf213i cant even open the project in kdeveloper after i save it. and its the one k developer creates12:32
macdand were trying to uninstall it?12:32
macdobf213 I dont know what to tell you, your making no sense whatsoever.12:32
jon_yes, but it didnt work. so i tried to uninstall it12:32
jon_but it wouldnt finish the uninstall12:33
macdand you installed the package named mldonkey?12:33
macdand now it said cant find package?12:33
TheGateKeepermacd: the error message he gave me suggested that mldonkey-server was broken, and would not uninstall or reinstall12:34
macdwll what was the actual package name12:34
jon_yes, mldonkey-server12:34
djk_why would you even want mldonkey12:34
jon_from synaptic12:34
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jon_i dont know, i wish i didnt12:34
macdthen sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get remove mldonkey-server12:34
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macdthen are you still presented with the same error message?12:35
leveldocdoes anyone know anything about sata cd burning under k3b?12:35
obf213macd, i open kdeveloper c/c++ click on new project, click on their premade hello world template. save it on my desktop. compile it and run it. then if i close kdeveloper then open it, and open the project it says its missing an xml something or other12:35
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macdobf213 I dont know.12:36
jon_macd it says 1 not fully installed12:36
macdobf213 maybee someone else in here does, or perhaps try your hand at searching12:36
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jon_ macd Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock12:36
duckdownHey all... If I wanted to restrict people on my machine from connecting to a list of regular efnet IPv4 servers (Only like 8 out of them all support IPv6 and thats all I want to allow) where can I add the list of servers I want to deny access to?12:36
macdjon_ ! hhhh!12:36
macdnow we make sopme progress12:36
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jon_hhh?12:37
macdjon_ : ok type 'ps ax | grep apt'12:37
TheGateKeeperjon_: not doing apt-get in the konsole with synaptic open at the same time?12:38
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jon_haha yea12:38
jon_okay i got soemthing different12:38
macdthats a problem :p12:38
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TheGateKeeperleave you two too it night both and good luck :-)12:39
jon_invoke-rc.d: initscript mldonkey-server, action "start" failed.12:39
SkrotHi. Is there a way to check reverse dependencies? As in which packages depends on a given package?12:39
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paul_macd: how often are you on here? beacuse im gonna be needing a lot of help12:39
macdSkrot I suggest you type man dpkg12:39
wordmacd: there got it working, thanks12:40
macdpaul_ well daily, but Im not always paying attention, if you say macd, I will see the screen flash12:40
macdword, np.12:40
jon_dpkg: error while cleaning up:12:40
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paul_ok thanks a lot12:40
macdjon_ sounds pretty wierd12:40
macdyou have synaptic closed?12:40
jon_basically the same error code 112:40
jon_yes this time12:40
jon_ subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 112:41
macdhmmm12:41
jon_E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)12:41
jon_i guess it says the same thing12:41
macdI bet it installed half way, and its really not there anymore12:41
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jon_yea thats what i figured12:41
macdmake sure its not running12:41
macdps ax | grep mldonkey12:41
jon_how do i do that?12:41
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macdif its not, then dont sweat it any12:41
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jon_macd 12609 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep mldonkey12:42
jon_i think that means it is running?12:42
macdno12:42
jon_oh12:42
macdthats the grep process :p12:42
jon_heh12:42
jon_i dunno what grep is12:42
macdit would just be mldonkey by itself12:42
macdthen type man grep12:43
macd:)12:43
jon_right on12:43
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jon_is there no solution to my problem? should i just reformat?12:44
macdman dont worry about it!12:44
macdjust keep rockin12:44
jon_well the thing is, im trying to network printers12:44
jon_and i tried to load samba12:44
macdand yu got  dpkg error again?12:44
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jon_but then it errored because of this mldonkey12:44
jon_yep12:44
macdohhhh12:44
macdone sec lemme peep something out on my box12:44
macdjon_ in Konsole type 'cd /var/cache/apt/archives/partial'12:45
macdthen 'ls -al'12:45
macddo you see the mldonkey package?12:45
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macdjon_ did that work?12:50
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jon_ah i had to leave for asec12:52
jon_dont think im stupid12:52
macdohhh, did you see what I had said ^^12:52
jon_but whats Konsole12:52
jon_yes12:52
macdthe command line12:52
jon_right!12:52
macd;)12:52
jon_okay it changed directories12:53
macdnow ls -al12:53
macddo you see a mldonkey package?12:53
jon_total 9612:54
jon_drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  4096 2006-08-09 17:16 .12:54
DaSkreech5024?12:54
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jon_drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 90112 2006-08-09 17:1612:55
macdjon, ok do this ls -al | grep mldonkey12:55
jon_nothin12:55
jon_i think its failing to install the package for mldonkey-server12:56
jon_whenever i tried to install or uninstall it, it said a packaged failed to install, trying to recover12:56
jon_but yea, i got nothing with that12:57
macdyeah, IM just trying to figure out why its trying to install it still, Im just not all that familiar with the internal workings of apt12:57
macdbut give me a few minutes and I'll get iot worked out for ya12:57
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djk_jon_: why do you even want mldonkey-server?12:58
macdhe doesnt.12:58
macdand Im not sure it matter why, just the fix.12:58
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djk_macd: well I'm curious12:59
jon_i dont01:00
jon_i just wanted it because it had soulseek and other bittorrent on it01:00
jon_i didnt know what was good, i just got ubuntu 3 days ago01:00
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djk_but why would you need the server?01:01
macdlinux n00b, made istake Id assume01:01
jon_exactly01:01
macdjon_ try sudo apt-get clean01:01
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djk_i don't think such a mistake has anything to do with linux ;)01:02
macdjon_ if that doesnt help, Im not really sure man, but if you hang around here Im sure someone can help that knows a bit more about apt/dpkg than I01:03
macdwell djk_ there are several server packages that your computer runs01:03
macdxserver-xorg01:03
macdwhy would you want a server :)01:03
djk_macd: err..they're not in the same categories :p01:05
djk_macd: btw, does 6.06 support reiser4?01:05
macdto a linux n00b they are!01:06
macdnot sure, I use reiser301:06
macdlaunchpad outta tell ya01:06
djk_macd: does a newb know about xsxorg01:06
|lostbyte|Hi, 9 MB / sec file trasnfer bet hd's, is that normal. or should i expect more, If so, are there any hacks to speed it up ?01:07
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|lostbyte|!grub01:19
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto01:19
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coachjcan someone help me with getting 3d01:24
aethsure wazup?01:24
coachjsome got mesa drivers and canr get rid of them01:25
coachjhave been thru the wiki both methods01:25
coachjdoesnt help01:25
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coachjhello?01:27
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Healotcoachj, with Compiz, XGL?01:28
Healot!compiz01:28
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems01:28
LouKallHey, I'm trying to configure Kismet and it just isnt working any help? FATAL: GetIFFlags: interface wlan0: No such device01:28
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coachjaeth: you there?01:29
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LouKallanyone?01:30
coachjwhat is going on??01:30
LouKalldoooonnntttt know.01:30
coachjwierd01:31
|lostbyte|wlan0: No such device.. like it says..01:31
coachj??01:31
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|lostbyte|LouKall, huh, ifconfig should tell you.01:33
LouKalleth0, eth 1, lo01:33
LouKallshould i use eth0?01:34
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jmichaelxwhen i want to 'safely remove'/unmount my ipod, i get the error "umount: /media/sda2 is not in the fstab (and you are not root)". what do i do about this?01:50
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|lostbyte|jmichaelx, the command you used ?01:50
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jmichaelx|lostbyte|: i was just trying to do it by right-clicking and selecting 'safely remove' from the desktop and in konqueror01:51
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|lostbyte|jmichaelx, And how did you mount it ?01:53
jmichaelx|lostbyte|: by right-clicking on the icon and selecting 'mount'01:53
|lostbyte|jmichaelx, the error, is telling to do it as root.01:54
jmichaelx|lostbyte|: i have this same problem on another PC with an external hard drive.... i can mount it from konqueror, but not unmount01:54
|lostbyte|from command line, sudo umount /media/sda2        ..will do the trick.01:54
jmichaelx|lostbyte|: yeah, i know, but i was hoping i could unmount without opening a terminal01:54
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|lostbyte|jmichaelx, then you will have to add an entry into /etc/fstab01:55
jmichaelx|lostbyte|: ok ty for the command, i just wish i would not have to do that01:55
ravhej01:55
jmichaelx|lostbyte|: ok, i will read up on that01:55
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|lostbyte|jmichaelx, ok.01:56
ravjest tu ktos z polski ??01:56
|lostbyte|rav, Which lang is this ?01:56
jmichaelxpolish01:56
|lostbyte|!polish01:56
ubotuI know nothing about polish - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu01:56
|lostbyte|!pol01:56
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djk_LouKall: even if ubotu knew something, you're apparently only 13 and wouldn't know what to do ;)02:28
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henk LouKall has left this channel (requested by gnomefreak: "dont play with ubotu")   <<, he funny understatement02:30
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jim__I just installed the chess game knights and it will only let me play against myself not the computer, I am using eboards as the engine.  any ideas02:32
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djk_meh, how can build-essential be essentials if it doesn't include an xmlparser and glib..02:39
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ubuntuDo I need a separete /boot partition ?02:41
Hawkwindubuntu: It's not necessary, but some of us like to have a seperate /boot parititon02:41
Hawkwinds/parititon/partition02:41
the-ermAnyone know what package alsaconf is in I can't seem to find it, and my sound card isn't working.02:41
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the-ermI've tried searching for it in apt: in konqueror as well :02:42
ubuntuDo I get any performance advantage from having a separate /boot ?02:42
Hawkwindubuntu: Nope02:42
ubuntuok, I am going to hit the Install button.02:42
ubuntuTalk you in a few minutes.02:42
Hawkwindthe-erm: Have you tried alsa-tools ?02:43
BluesKajHawkwind, what are the advantages of a seperate boot part ?02:43
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Hawkwindthe-erm: Or even alsa-utils02:43
HawkwindBluesKaj: None other than defining how much space you want /boot to have to store your kernels02:43
BluesKajIC02:44
HawkwindBluesKaj: Old school linux users are usually the ones you'll see who have a seperate /boot partition.  It's just a habit that I got into years ago and I still make mine seperate to this day.  Probably always will02:44
the-ermHawkwind: I don't think it's in there..02:44
Healotdjk_, essential explains it02:45
djk_Healot: explains what02:45
the-ermasoundconf is.02:45
the-ermbut not alsaconf02:45
crimsunwe don't ship alsaconf.02:45
Healotonly the essential build tools are in it :)02:46
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djk_Healot: i'd think an xml-parser is essential..02:47
Healotyou think of that. the ubuntu team doesn't :002:48
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djk_yea well, a lot of people believe in jesus..:p02:49
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BluesKajJesus would have used Linux :)02:50
Healoti don't get that?02:50
crimsunthe difference is that you can't prove Jesus is broken, but you sure can prove Ubuntu is.02:50
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djk_crimsun: and all that because of an essential xml-parser...02:51
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BluesKajmy desktop is black atm , was trying to fix my scrn saver and poof , but I don't wanna end the session til the video stops encoding02:52
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QMarioHow would I transform a group of images into one PS file?02:56
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mighty-dhi, im having a bad time trying to get my infrared remote to work can anyone help me please?03:04
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Warlockhi have a question about flash player for firefox.03:06
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crimsunthe plugin or "the player?"03:06
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WarlockI can't seem to get anything with flash player 8 to play on firefox.  I have seems to install everything like I have read but still a no go.03:08
DaSkreechWarlock: There is no flash player 8 for Linux03:09
DaSkreechHobbsee: !! :)03:09
crimsun7.0.63 is the latest version available.03:09
Jucatoonly support for Flash player 703:09
Jucatooooh Hobbsee's here...03:09
Hobbseehi DaSkreech, Jucato03:09
Hobbseeindeed, i am03:09
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DaSkreechYes yes we know you are outraged  please visit http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/ and write comments liberally explaining how you feel about it03:10
Jucatooutraged? who? ehehe!03:10
DaSkreechWarlock :)03:10
JucatoI think I can survive without Flash. :D03:10
WarlockI see thanks DaSkreech03:10
JucatoFlash Player 9 for Linux is in the works... but... :-(03:11
DaSkreechWarlock: They said that we should get Flash 9 by 2007 Dec03:11
Warlockok well I guess I'll just have to wait and see03:11
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TheHighChildJucato: right.....03:12
JucatoDaSkreech: but there's also a post in that blog that says that it "might" be put on hold...03:12
JucatoTheHighChild: huh?03:12
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Warlockdo you know of any linux player that can play or convert wmv so that they are playable.03:13
DaSkreechYeah for unknown reasons but I think there is enough out pouring of support that they dare not keep on03:13
JucatoWarlock: Kaffeine can, you just need the w32codecs03:13
TheHighChildJucato: Just expressing my skepticism on the Flash 903:13
JucatoTheHighChild: that's why there was a "but..." :-D03:13
DaSkreech It's kind of like the US dropping support for LInux in America's Army03:13
WarlockOh ok cool I guess I'll work on that one first.03:13
DaSkreech!w32codecs > Warlock03:14
JucatoThe thing is, they made a public announcement that they're working on Flash Player 9 for Linux and make a beta release early 2007.03:14
Jucatonow if they suddenly drop it... there's gonna be hell to pay >:)03:14
jim__anyone know much aobut the game knights the chess game03:15
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sledge_at_workHas anyone gotten grub to work with SAS (serially attached scsi)?03:18
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jim__anyone know much aobut the game knights the chess game03:19
OOD!w32codecs03:19
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WarlockDaSkreech>thank you,  I'm sorry but I'm real new linux.  Just could not stand Windows or Mircosoft anymore.03:20
erovjim__: what's up with it?03:20
jim__everytime i play against the computer the computer times out on the first move and the game declares me the winner03:21
erovit means you dont have a chess server installed i think03:21
RawSewageit senses your strength03:21
jim__i have enabled xboards03:22
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DaSkreechWarlock: Welcome :-) This is the rookery03:22
erovjim__: well.. I use 'fruits' and I enabled it via the config in Knights03:23
jim__where can i find fruits?03:23
erovin the repo03:23
erovit's named 'fruits' as well03:23
jim__thank you i will try03:23
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erovfruit my bad03:26
erovno s03:26
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jim__erov how do i configure fruit in knights config03:26
mighty-dhow do i install make-kpkg ??03:26
mike_Man, is there a way to theme KDE in kubuntu?03:26
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mike_It doesn't seem to have a theme manager at all.03:27
mike_It only has the default themes.03:27
erovjim__: Settings->Configure Knights->Computer Opponents03:27
jim__i am there but where do i designate fruit03:27
OODmike_: System Settings->Appearance03:27
mike_That's where I went.  Doesn't seem to have a way to load new themes.03:28
erovshould be a box where you can select03:28
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erovif you installed 'fruit' from adept03:28
erovif not03:29
erovgo to the add button on the side03:29
erovand just add fruit03:29
Jucatomike_: what kind of "theme" are you trying to install/load? KDE has many things that can be themed...03:29
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erovjust type fruit for a filename03:29
erovits in your path now03:29
mike_Well there are a few themes I like on the kde-look site03:29
erovits a UCI not XBOARD type too03:29
mike_And I want to load them.03:29
Jucatomike_: what kind of theme is it? (under what category in KDE-Look?)03:30
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Jucatoyou see, there are (Widget) Style themes, Icon Themes, Window Decorations, KDM (Login Screen) themes... each of these can be themed03:30
draikHello Jucato03:30
mike_Themes/Styles, KDE 3.2-3.503:31
Jucatodraik: hey! just the man I was looking for! :-D03:31
draikWhat's going on Jucato?03:31
Healot!info kernel-package03:31
ubotukernel-package: A utility for building Linux kernel related Debian packages.. In repository main, is optional. Version 9.001ubuntu15 (dapper), package size 353 kB, installed size 1316 kB03:31
JucatoI'm done with the ubuntu-classroom transcripts03:31
draikvery good03:31
Healot!info kernel-package > mighty-d03:31
ubotukernel-package: A utility for building Linux kernel related Debian packages.. In repository main, is optional. Version 9.001ubuntu15 (dapper), package size 353 kB, installed size 1316 kB03:31
draikyou edited the file to clean it up?03:31
mike_Mostly window decorations and widgets.03:32
draikI think everything is still the same, nothing much more to add03:32
Jucatodraik: I've already posted it on my blog :-D03:32
draikI think I can actually submit my pdf to the wiki for that class03:32
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Jucatohttp://jucato.multiply.com/journal/item/2803:32
draikeverything seems to be in order03:32
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draikthank you... I was just about to ask you for your link ^-^03:32
Jucatomike_: hold on a sec, I'm looking for a post of mine that sort of explains how to install these stuff03:32
mike_Before I installed kubuntu, there was an option where I could load themes...but I'd try to load, and it wouldn't theme!03:33
mike_KDE is kinda broken, I guess.03:33
Jucatomike_: nope it isn't03:33
OODmike_: there are several things you can theme in KDE: icons, styles, kwin borders etc03:34
Jucatodifferent kinds of themes are installed differently. For one, those under the Themes/Styles category need to be installed like an application (compiled or through dpkg)03:34
erovdamn that fruit engine kicked my ass.. :(03:34
OODand some of these could be in different forms (some are in source code)03:34
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RawSewageI cant beat chess computers03:34
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OODyou have to be able to differentiate between them and figure out what goes where and what'll work and what wont03:35
Jucatomike_: here it is: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=303:35
erovYou read where they are still not able to make such engines for 'Go' ?03:35
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endoi am having a problem with the startup of kubuntu03:35
mike_thanks.03:35
RawSewageerov, yes, I read that03:35
RawSewageit was on Digg03:35
endoit stalls when initializing hardware03:35
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Jucatotry reading it. it related the different KDE-Look categories with the System Settings modules...03:35
RawSewageerov, do you play Go03:36
Jucatohi claydoh!03:36
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endoit stall in the loadup screens for KDE03:36
erovNo.. but I was going to try to learn a while back.. just a game that really interests me and I'd like to take the time, some time, to learn/play03:36
claydohwhy hello Jucato!03:36
draikVery nice03:36
nearfargood .. first time kubuntu user .. after using gnome for years03:36
draikJucato03:36
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RawSewageerov, you should watch the anime series  Hikaru no Go03:36
draikNice layout03:36
RawSewageerov, it will get you into  Go03:37
Jucatodraik: thanks! @_@03:37
endoanyone?03:37
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Jucatoclaydoh: I was able to talk to Jonathan (dares not mention last name for fear of disturbing him again)03:37
erovgoes to watch Hikaru no Go03:37
RawSewageIts a good series03:37
Jucatojust a few minutes after you left... @_@03:37
draikMy PDF is just split into "step per page"03:37
endoIt stalls at Loading the window manager03:37
Jucatoerov: ehehe! I like the opening song of that anime03:37
claydohJucato: just don't type his nickname, if you are worried03:37
claydohI wouldn't worry03:37
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manelsonhey, can anyone tell me how to specify in xorg.conf what monitor the KDE taskbar should be on in a dual monitor xinerama setup?03:38
Jucatoclaydoh: his nick is his last name... that's why a few minutes after you left, he said "huh..." because he was notified that his nick was mentioned... @_@03:38
wckdkl0wnis there a plugin for konversati0on that will allow me to post my bandwidth?03:38
Jucatooh poor claydoh...03:39
wckdkl0wnsomething like sysinfo03:39
endoAnyone have any problems with startup of KDE?03:39
erovnot now except it runs some sort of wizard EVERY time..03:40
erovasking me how I want my KDE appearance to be03:40
erovalso.. it's not saving my nameserver when I shutdown and boot back up03:40
Jucatothat wizard's name is KPersonalizer, and I have no idea why it was installed...03:40
erov:|03:41
endomy system dies everytime i try to log into KDE03:42
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OODyeah i had the same thing yesterday03:42
endogoes to the console in recovery mode03:42
endojust not x03:42
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OODthat was to erov*03:43
sickboywhats the easiest version of ubuntu?03:43
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sickboyjus got kubuntu an cant play wma video03:43
erovdid you just up to 3.5.4 ?03:43
Jucato!w32codecs03:43
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endofresh install03:43
OODerov: yeah, that's when it happened03:43
wckdkl0wnsickboy: u need to install w32codecs tahts why03:43
Jucato!w32codecs > sickboy03:43
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erovsickboy: follow the links ubotu just said03:43
draikJucato, I think that what I need to do now is take the questions from the end of the classes and add them as a "notes" page or something03:43
endowhat is the autokill command for theconsole03:43
mighty-dhi, i'd like to know if i can just move all /usr to a new partition and then make /usr the mounting point for that partition from fstab03:43
erovmust be..03:44
sickboythanks!03:44
wckdkl0wnsickboy: or download mplayer03:44
draikJucato, again, very nice job.03:44
Jucatodraik: thanks again!03:44
ErikTheRedmy suggestion to sickboy is to not use wma at all if possible03:44
Jucatodraik: I've been trying to contact nixternal to ask his permission if I could post mine before they post theirs03:44
sickboymplayer03:44
erovwell.... yeah!03:44
draikJucato, I think you'll be fine since their names are on there.03:45
sickboyya my gf gave me this cd im tryin to watch... hopfully its juicy03:45
OODerov: i just had a clean install of kubuntu done so i don't have that problem anymore, but it's probably a bug in 3.5.403:45
nixternalJucato: yes ;)03:45
Jucatoweeee!! hi nixternal! :-D03:45
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draikspeak of the devil... or penguin... w/e03:45
nixternali was 1 minute late earlier ;)03:45
wckdkl0wnsickboy: try in konsole "sudo apt-get install mplayer"03:45
endoi cant get  x to start03:45
Jucatoehehe!03:45
draiknixternal, I will add the questions to the end of the 2nd PDF and send it to you ASAP03:45
erovdoes the monitor just shutoff endo?03:46
endono03:46
endojust stall03:46
silicon_no03:46
silicon_test.03:46
nixternalya you guys, that whole thing is wide open, do what you want with it03:46
silicon_hello.03:46
Jucatonixternal: here's the one I made. it's a summary/review, then links to the "transcripts" (for lack of a better term): http://jucato.multiply.com/journal/item/2803:46
nixternalJucato: AWESOME!  Good work!03:47
wind-hi, i need help03:48
Jucatowhoa! you read fast :-D03:48
sickboyhmm couldnt find package mplayer03:48
nixternalyou should wiki that ;)03:48
crimsunmplayer is in multiverse.03:48
wckdkl0wn!mplayer03:48
ubotumplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer03:48
Jucatonixternal: ehehe! :-D03:48
ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.03:48
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wckdkl0wnwhat other commands are there other then sysinfo?03:50
wckdkl0wnfor konversation03:50
Jucatowckdkl0wn: look at Settings > Configure Konversation > Command Aliases03:50
dads?03:51
wezlohey gang is anyone else having troubles with sandisk card readers and dapper?03:51
wind-i'm trying to get my function keys to work, they control the volume and screen brightness *amungst other things) how would i go about it?03:51
dadshow do i change my nick?03:51
wckdkl0wnnothing for like bandwidth though right?03:51
Jucatodads: type in /nick <nickname>03:51
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Jucatowckdkl0wn: unless there's a plugin for it in Konversation, I don't think so...03:52
wckdkl0wnwhat else can i use other then konversation03:52
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Jucatowckdkl0wn: for IRC?03:52
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nearfarno 'browser' in kubuntu?03:52
nearfarer.. amorak03:53
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wckdkl0wnyea just irc not other messengers03:53
Jucatonearfar: huh?03:53
frostystormIs there any easy way to install the compilers and assemblers used when i ./configure make make install something? like through adept?03:53
Jucatowckdkl0wn: Kopete can also do IRC, and so can GAIM, but they're both mainly IM clients. irssi is a command line IRC client, and XChat is a GNOME based (AFAIK) IRC client03:53
dadsty jucato03:54
wckdkl0wnthats right i remember xchat now i cant believe i forgot about it03:54
dadserr03:54
nearfarJucato: amoraK. Isn't there any album/artist browser like in iTunes/rhythmbox?03:54
Jucato^_^03:54
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nearfar?03:55
Jucatonearfar: there is. but you have to load the media in Amarok's collection, sort of like iTunes' Library03:55
nearfarJucato: I did. drag and dropped03:56
DaSkreechwckdkl0wn: Kopete03:56
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Jucatonearfar: dragged and dropped where?03:58
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nearfarJucato: Collection04:00
nearfarJucato: I for sure realized how COMPLEX kde can be /04:00
nearfar:/04:00
draiknixternal, I have the PDF created for the wiki. How do I go about uploading the PDF?04:00
nixternali believe you can just attach it, and then create a link to it04:01
DaSkreechnearfar: Do you have all your music in one place?04:01
nearfarDaSkreech: yes, ~/Music04:01
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draikattach it where?04:02
Jucatonearfar: near the top of the list in your collection, there's a drop down menu that says something like "Genre/Album/Artist"04:02
nearfarJucato: yes04:02
nearfarthat list is empty first of all04:02
Jucatoyou can change that so you could arrange by artist, by album, or by any combination you want04:02
nearfarbut the right pane is full of songs04:02
nearfareach song does have artist/album04:02
Jucatoerr...04:03
nearfarhow to take screenshot?04:03
Jucatonearfar: errr04:03
Jucatonearfar: you didn't drag your music into your collection04:03
erovpress print scr04:03
nearfarI mean, the KDE way04:03
DaSkreechIn amarok go to Settings-> Configure marok -> collection04:03
Jucatothe right-side is the playlist contents04:03
nearfarerov: and?04:03
DaSkreechAdd your folder to the collection04:03
Jucatonearfar: follow DaSkreech's directions to build your Collection04:04
nearfarDaSkreech: yes, it's already there (I did then in welcome step)04:04
erovuse ksnapshot04:04
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nearfarcomplicated menu! .. using alt-f204:04
DaSkreechok so you have 4 tabs on the left of amarok?04:04
DaSkreechnearfar: Content, Collection, Playlists, Files?04:05
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sickboyok now i got an easy Q how do i activate flash in firefox?04:06
nearfarDaSkreech: yes04:06
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nearfarbtw, no adblock in konqueror?04:06
Jucatosickboy: have you istalled the flashplugin-nonfree package?04:06
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Jucatonearfar: Konqueror has a built-in adblock04:06
sickboyis that in adept?04:07
Jucatono need to install an Adblock extension04:07
nearfarDaSkreech: http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=amorakwoesck6.png04:07
scastHmm guys, I can't do "sudo kwrite [insert file here] " :(04:07
Jucatoscast: try to use kdesu instead04:07
Jucato"kdesu kwrite [...] "04:07
Jucato!flash04:07
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:07
Jucatosickboy: follow this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-f375cba46014e861cd5ec7643bd7c4ef05acff2b04:08
nearfarpopups in konqueror too04:08
Jucatosickboy: then follow the instructions for Kubuntu Dapper04:08
Jucatonearfar: Javascript settings control popups04:08
DaSkreechnearfar: And under Colletion you have nothing?04:08
scastI think I was able to do it before, don't know why I can't now04:09
nearfarDaSkreech: yeah, as in that screenshot04:09
DaSkreechnearfar: Can you check under settings thaat things are imported?04:09
nearfarbtw, I used to sync my iPod in 'banshee' (gnome player). Now how do I continue syncing in amoraK without losing any files? same music directory ever - ~/Music04:10
nearfarDaSkreech: yes, I checked04:10
nearfarDaSkreech: n/m .. I will figure this out later04:10
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DaSkreechnearfar: Can you do me a quick favour? What version of amarok are you using?04:10
nearfarfor iPod, it shows song browser04:11
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nearfarDaSkreech: 1.3.9 (using KDE 3.5.2)04:11
Jucatoit's weird that all his music is in the playlist window.04:11
DaSkreechJucato: Well he did say he dragged and dropped04:12
nearfarand I can browser my iPod only by Artist? how lame!04:12
nearfar*browse04:12
DaSkreechnearfar: When you play a song on the Content tab does it tell you that it's in the collection?04:12
Jucatohe could have dropped it just on the playlist window, not added to the collection itself...04:12
DaSkreechnearfar: That's how the ipod is organized04:12
nearfarDaSkreech: I get a screen popup04:12
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nearfarDaSkreech: though I would like to browser by album04:12
DaSkreechnearfar: Which says?04:13
scasthttp://pastie.caboo.se/7883 check it out.04:13
Jucatonearfar: could you double check in Settings > Configure Amarok > Collections that the tiny box beside your Music directory is checked?04:13
nearfarDaSkreech: there is 'Context' tab, no 'Content' tab04:13
nearfarJucato: yes, it is04:13
DaSkreechnearfar: I'll be damned I always read it as Content :)04:14
JucatoDaSkreech: hehe :-D04:14
DaSkreechnearfar: What does the popup say?04:14
nearfarI clicked on 'Build Collection', selected folder, but it still does nothing.04:14
nearfarDaSkreech: it's notification popup -- when next song is played04:14
Jucatonearfar: can you try  Tools > Rescan Collection?04:14
scastAny idea? --- http://pastie.caboo.se/788304:14
nearfarJucato: ah! works now04:15
Jucato @_@04:15
Jucatonearfar: then you can just click on the "Group By" dropdown list to change how your collection is arranged04:16
nearfarthanks!04:16
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nearfargtg04:16
Jucatoscast: when did this start happening?04:16
DaSkreechnearfar: :-D04:16
Jucatonearfar: bye! have fun04:16
Jucato @_@04:16
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scastsince I wanted to edit my sources.list04:17
nearfarbtw, I can't 'sync' my iPod, but only manually copy stuff?04:17
Jucatoscast: try this. go to your sources.list in Konqueror, then right-click > Actions > Edit as Root04:17
nearfarDaSkreech: so I found a bug in amaroK :D04:18
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Jucatonearfar: what bug?04:18
nearfarbrb04:18
scastBut why can't I do sudo kwrite something :(04:18
nearfarJucato: not 'building' collecion when I add it04:18
nearfaror scan04:18
basilioIf i have Linux installed in my computer will i get affected by clicking the links provded by my friend with a worm04:18
nearfarbrb04:18
basiliolike the http://buddies.funbuddyicons.com@[fwpscript] Version:01.03.00.08|rsvp|Icon:none@[/fwpscript]  from INSTANT MESSENGER04:18
scasthmmm04:19
scastWeird04:19
scast:o04:19
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scastNow I can do sudo kwrite04:19
Jucatoscast: always use kdesu when launching GUI apps as root04:19
scastlol04:19
scastReally?04:19
Jucatoscast: yes04:19
scastDidn't know that.04:19
scastAre you sure?04:19
Jucato!sudo04:19
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.04:19
scast!kdesu04:19
ubotuIn KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo04:19
Jucato:-P04:20
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scastlawl04:20
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scastAight04:20
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Jucatonah! don't feel that way. it's something that's easily overlooked and presumed04:20
oxezHello. I'm currently running Ubuntu Dapper (with gnome), and I've installed amaroK 1.4.1 throught the Kubuntu repos. There is only one thing that I'd like to fix: there are many icons missing in amarok.. what package should I need to get those?04:21
Jucatobasilio: generally, no. But you can't be too sure. Why would you click on something that you know has a worm anyway?04:21
scastoxez: kubuntu-desktop :-P04:21
scastoxez: nah, no idea, ask Jucato.04:21
oxezscast, nah I don't want to install the whole thing :p04:21
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basiliojust curious lol04:24
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wind-this is the first time i've downloaded anything off the net and it saved as a .tar.bz2  ... how do i install it?04:25
Jucatowind-: what are you trying to install?04:25
baskewbunzip04:25
wind-GIMPshop04:25
wind-do i extract?04:25
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wind-actually, i have no clue how to install this04:26
baskewcant you just do a apt-get install gimp? or use adept04:26
wind-can you/04:26
scastwind-: don't get your expectations to high. It's just a few hacks to change the application menus.04:26
baskewwell gimp shop just something else tho04:26
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wind-gimpshop isn't photoshop?04:27
Jucatogimpshop isnt' available in the repositories, but the GIMP is04:27
wind-for linux04:27
Jucatowind-: no04:27
baskewjust get gimp04:27
Jucatowind-: gimpshop is a "hack" of the GIMP which tries to make the GIMP act/look like photoshop04:27
baskew=]  or is there a reason u want gimpshop?04:27
wind-what is himp04:27
wind-gimp04:27
wind-oh04:27
scastJucato: not even close. Is just a hack that change the way the menus behaves.04:27
wind-gotcha04:27
wind-apt-get install gimp?04:28
Jucatoscast: to make them behave like Photoshop, right?04:28
wind-sudo04:28
baskewyeah be root04:28
scastBasically.04:28
scastPersonally it's a waste of time. Even on #gimp they say is bad idea to install it ^^04:28
wind-after it installs, where will it be?04:29
wind-?04:29
Jucatoscast: of course they will say that :-D04:29
wind-what should i use to edit pictures04:29
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Jucatowind-: you launch it like any othe application, and open up files like any other application04:29
Jucatowind-: word of warning: the interface takes a bit of getting used to04:30
Jucatospecially if you've been used to Photoshop04:30
wind-that's fine04:30
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wind-but i'm kind of new to linux, where is it? i looked under graphics (kubuntu)04:30
baskewwhen i installed kubuntu, gimp was already installed04:30
baskewkde menu > graphics > gimp04:31
Jucatobaskew: are you sure? Ubuntu installs GIMP by default, but Kubuntu installs Krita by default, not the GIMP04:31
wind-i don't see it04:31
scastwind-: you could also try Krita. But it doesn't have 10 years of development like gimp does.04:31
Jucatowind-: have you installed the GIMP already?04:31
wind-yeah04:31
baskewjucato: well sorry i installed ubuntu 1st, then installed kubuntu desktop,.... sorry04:31
Jucatobaskew: no problem. no need to be sorry04:31
wind-all i have to do is sugo apt-get install gimp    right?04:31
wind-sudo04:31
Jucatoscast: but Krita wasn't just built form scratch, too.04:32
baskewthatll work04:32
Jucatowind-: yeah04:32
wind-nothing popped up?04:32
wind-after it installed04:32
Jucatowind-: nothing will popup. where did you type "sudo apt-get install gimp" anyway?04:32
baskewtype gimp04:32
wind-ah04:32
wind-do i always have to do that04:33
Jucatowind-: no. your K Menu will be updated in a short while... (I hope)04:33
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wind-hm04:33
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scastA pentium4 is considered 686?04:35
XVampireXyeah04:35
scastaight.04:35
CViruswind-: type kbuilsycoca to update your K Menu after installing new software04:37
Jucatoyeah, I've even created a special menu entry for "kbuildsycoca --incremental" for it. though it doesn't work 100% of the time.04:38
JucatoI'm surprised that this bug is till alive, though. IIRC, it has been like that since Breezy...04:38
CViruslazy devs :-p04:39
Jucato:-D04:39
wind-thanks04:42
wind-hey how come it says permission denied when i try to save the image?04:42
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Jucatowind-: where (what directory) is the image saved?04:42
wind-a folder i made, Stuff04:43
XVampireXis it in your home folder?04:43
Jucatoyou won't be able to save images/files if you don't have the permissions for that file or the folder it's located int04:43
Jucatos/int/in04:43
XVampireXinteger04:43
XVampireXaha04:43
wind-?04:43
Jucatolol04:43
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paul__im looking for some people running Counter strike source on dapper drake04:43
XVampireXpaul__: you need some playing buddies?04:44
XVampireX:P04:44
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wind-how do i change permissions04:44
paul__ii wish i could im still trying to get it working04:44
wind-i thought if i were the only user it would let me do anything?04:44
XVampireXwind-: through the GUI04:45
wckdkl0wni accidently killed my task bar.. how do i bring it back04:45
Jucatowind-: not really. there are some files/folders that have been set to belong to the administrator (root)04:45
Jucatowckdkl0wn: if it's dead, just press Alt+F2 and type in kicker04:45
wckdkl0wnJucato: ty its back now04:46
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Jucato:-D04:46
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=== Jucato doesn't know what to think...
Jucato @_@04:46
paul__iso Vampire are you running it on your box?04:46
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XVampireXpaul__i: of course not04:47
Jucatolol04:47
XVampireXWhy would I want windows only applications running on my computer even if it works via wine04:47
wind-nan@dstrike-Laptop:~$ kbullsycoca04:47
wind-bash: kbullsycoca: command not found04:47
Jucatowind-: kbuildsycoca04:48
paul__ibecause it is a fun game04:48
paul__iand i enjoy playing it04:48
XVampireXpaul__i: I asked why should I :)04:48
wind-kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!04:48
paul__ii guess it is a metter of perspective04:48
Jucatowind-:try "kbuildsycoca --incremental"04:48
XVampireXIt's a matter of preference.04:48
XVampireXAnd I won't forgive windows developers, ever!04:48
Jucatopaul__i: nothing wrong with what you prefer. XVampireX just said he doesn't prefer it. :-D04:49
wind-cool i see it now04:49
paul__inore will, I but i dont have a gripe with Steam04:49
JucatoXVampireX: err.. can you blame them if they've been blinded? lol04:49
wind-thankie :)04:49
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XVampireXJucato: Yes04:49
Jucatolol04:50
paul__ia lemon and 2 oranges...04:50
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soulriderhey everyone :)04:50
poningruyarr04:50
=== baskew pretty much doesnt play games unless they run natively
baskewtuxracer -] 04:51
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XVampireXno gaming channel for ubuntu/kubuntu?04:51
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paul__ibaskew: nothing wrong with that, but the linux first person shooter market is quite behind others04:51
wind-ok another question04:54
wind-how do i make ff the default web browser, not uh... whatever the other one is04:55
paul_macd: you still here boy?04:55
wind-so when i click on links here, it opens a tab in ff instead of a window from konquer?04:55
Jucatowind-: launch System Settings > KDE Components > Default Applications > Web Browser04:55
XVampireXpaul__i: behind? I'd say more advanced :D04:55
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XVampireXSerious Sam 2 coming to linux too04:56
Jucatothe Linux RPG market is quite dormant... :-(04:56
XVampireXYeah :(04:56
wind-cool04:56
wind-thanks04:56
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TehUnii'm having alot of trouble with X with my 3 monitor setup. i want 3 seperate screens. eg. no xinerama. is this possible? twinview and the rest seem to limit me to 2. any time i activate my 3rd screen, it seems to turn xinerama on04:57
Jucatoof course I could buy Neverwinter Nights... but wouldn't it be nice if someone was able to come up with a good open-source game...04:57
Jucatoa good 3D OpenGL (yech DirectX) RPG...04:57
paul_macd04:58
paul__ii drool04:58
XVampireXJucato: there's scourge04:59
paul__ibtw, anyone here got any hints for running dual display with an N-Vidia 7400 go?04:59
Jucatois it 3D?04:59
XVampireXJucato: kinda04:59
XVampireXisometric 3d04:59
TehUnipaul_i: google xorg.conf twinview04:59
Jucatoerr...05:00
Jucatolet me check05:00
JucatoI'm presuming the story/plot is good, too?05:00
paul__ithnx TehUni05:00
XVampireXRoguelike05:00
Jucatoerr... Rogue-like?? (sorry, what's Rogue?)05:00
XVampireXhttp://scourge.sourceforge.net/05:00
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paul_macd have you died?05:00
fatejudgerI can't seem to play apple's HD trailers using KMPlayer with Xine05:00
mrmusicso anybody here familiar with SWAT05:00
fatejudgerhas anyone here gotten it working?05:01
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XVampireXfatejudger: do you have the codecs?05:04
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fatejudgerXVampireX: libxineextracodecs05:06
fatejudgerXVampireX: and w32codecs05:06
XVampireXgstreamer?05:06
fatejudgerXVampireX: Xine05:06
XVampireXah, nevermind05:06
XVampireXsince you use xine, yeah05:06
XVampireXhmm05:06
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fatejudgercan you use gstreamer 0.10 in KMPlayer now?05:06
XVampireXno idea05:07
XVampireXI don't use kmplayer05:07
fatejudgerit's the only one that doesn't crash05:07
fatejudgerin Konqueror05:07
XVampireXKonqueror not so good for web browsing05:07
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XVampireXFor example it doesn't render Gmail well05:08
JucatoXVampireX: not really Konqueror's fault. Try using the Mozilla 1.7.3 browser identification and everything will be ok05:09
XVampireXlets see05:09
scast!mp305:10
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:10
Glin|JolWinamp 5.24 paused05:10
Jucatoeither Mozilla 1.7.3 or Safari on OS X05:10
XVampireXWhere do I set that?05:10
JucatoYou can just go the GMail Website, then Tools > Change Browser Identification05:11
Jucatoor you can also manually change it in Settiings > Configure Konqueror > Browser Identifcation and add a new Site Specific Identifcation rule05:11
XVampireXAh, that works05:12
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nabzhey, anyone know why gedit is not working?05:13
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Jucatonabz: there's no gedit in Kubuntu05:13
nabz:(05:13
Jucatonabz: try kate instead05:13
XVampireXyeah05:13
nabzok thanks05:13
Jucato"kate"05:13
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nabzyep worked05:14
nabzthanks alot05:14
Jucato^_^05:14
scastnabz: or kwrite05:14
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manelsoncan someone tell me how to change xorg.conf to switch my KDE menu bar to my other monitor in my dual monitor setup05:15
TehUnii'm having alot of trouble with X with my 3 monitor setup. i want 3 seperate screens. eg. no xinerama. is this possible? twinview and the rest seem to limit me to 2. any time i activate my 3rd screen, it seems to turn xinerama on05:16
rredd4how do I add my own backgrounds in kde?  when I go to the backgrounds control panel, I can not see a way to load the image from my hard drive.05:16
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firephotorredd4: the little folder icon next to the  " Picture:" drop down menu05:20
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rredd4firephoto  ahhh  little folder icon, thats why i didn't see it05:21
rredd4ty05:22
QMarioHow do I use OpenOffice's Export to PDF in the command line?05:23
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ravhej05:25
ravjest tu ktos z polski ?05:25
rredd4rav english please05:25
Agiosslkdfow  wslmzx  wsp03ks05:25
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Agiosrredd4: I just copy the image I want to use for a background to /usr/share/wallpapers05:27
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Agiosthen it will show up in the list05:27
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rredd4Agios  ok, ty!05:28
Agiosnp05:29
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macdpaul_ yes05:34
rav#ubuntu05:35
Andruki cant get sound on kubuntu dapper, any ideas on where to start (alsa 1.0.9 installed)05:35
wind-how come when i put a 6 in 1 card reader (pcim card) in my laptop, it says it can't mount?05:35
wind-i have a 1gb sd card in it now05:36
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wind-the error is "Mount: can't find /dev/hdc1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"05:36
mighty-dhi, how can i pass parameters to a bin.bash script?05:37
crrjscriptname arg1 arg2 etc.05:38
dr_willisYou mean a bash script?05:38
mighty-dyeah05:38
mighty-dbut when i write it whats the syntax?05:38
dr_willisyou mean IN the bash program how to parse the arguments?05:39
mighty-dyeah05:40
dr_willisgoogle for that 'advanced bash scripting guide' (and bookmark it. and read it a few dozen times, :P )  It will have examples of about everything ya will need.05:40
Hawkwindmighty-d: Type: /join #Bash05:40
mighty-dok thanks, :)05:40
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Hawkwindmighty-d: That URL dr_willis just talked about is in the #Bash /topic05:40
Agioswind-: mount /dev/hdc1 /mnt05:41
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Agiosgive it a mount point05:41
dr_willisI got that Guide in html format on my Playstation portable. :P05:41
dr_willisHeh.05:41
wind-thanks05:41
crrjhtml reference material can be quite handy05:41
dr_williswonder if theres a complete html tldp package i can download and have a total mirror of the things.05:41
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dr_willisthe TLDP guides on your psp. :P now Nerdish!05:42
wind-mount: only root can do that       ?05:42
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wind-oops nm05:42
Hawkwindwind-: Of course05:42
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Agiosdepends on the options set in fstab05:42
Hawkwindwind-: Unless you give it paramaters within your fstab to specify users can do it05:42
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wind-gotcha thanks05:43
wind-ok... now nothing is happening05:44
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dr_willisdefine 'nothing' :P05:47
dr_willisnothign can be good.. or bad.05:47
wind-nothing is showing up when i take out the pcim card or the memory card and stick it back in05:47
endomy kubuntu is stalling in the startup screen for the KDE05:48
endoanyone ever have this problem?05:48
dr_willisThis a clean install?05:49
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endoyeah totally clean05:49
dr_willisodd.05:49
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endothats what I said05:50
QMarioYAY XSANE FINALLY CAN SCAN TO PDF!!! :)05:50
dr_williscould pop to the console, login and see if theres a X log to check out.05:50
dr_willisit just 'hangs' X or the whole system?05:50
dr_willisQMario,  so ya get a pdf of huge images..! yes.05:50
dr_willis:P05:50
endohangs the whole system05:50
dr_willisendo,  that sounds like a video issue.. what card ya got?05:50
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dr_willisendo,  actually that sounds EXACTLY like a video issue uve herd of befor.05:51
endoreally05:51
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endoany sugestions?05:51
dr_williswhat video card do you have. :P05:52
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wckdkl0wnwhere would i get remote.pm from?05:55
wckdkl0wn!ati05:56
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto05:56
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JenxAnyone know of a .mov player05:57
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JenxAlso seeking how to make transparent windows05:58
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wolfmanzAgios do you know much about security when it comes to kubuntu as to why it would be better then XP aside from the fact the users are not logged in as root?06:00
dr_willisgo ask that in ##linux - i bet ya get a  quite a few reasons.06:03
dr_willissome of which I may even understand. :P06:03
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Andruk_Tatumso, i cant get any sound from my system, anybody willing to help?06:11
wolfmanzdr_wills you gotta be registered to even speak in that room lol06:11
XVampireXAndruk_Tatum: Sure, describe what happened, I.E: Did you have sound before or you can't get it at all? Also, are you trying to play MP3's and have you just installed kubuntu for the first time?06:13
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Andruk_Tatumi cant remember if i got sound on kubuntu before, (ive had it for awhile, ive just been at my other house over the summer) i dont think i have ever been able to get sound.  so, i try to play an mp3 file with amarok, kaffeine, rhythmbox, and vlc, and i cant get any sound, and it normally gives me a mesage that no audio drivers could be initialized06:15
azmodeanwolfmanz: a few other reasons are that no ports are open by default and linux isn't targeted as much as windows06:15
NeoFaxAnyone know of a linux distro that is preconfigured as a SOHO server?06:15
Andruk_Tatumand to change any necessary files, you have to know the admin pw06:15
NeoFaxAndruk_Tatum: What soundcard do you have?06:15
crimsunAndruk_Tatum: lspci -v |grep -i audio06:15
wolfmanzazmodean ya but that depends on the distro in terms of ports being open some aint to good about that06:16
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Windi must be doing something wrong because it still gives me the error "mount: can't find /dev/hdc1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab06:16
Andruk_Tatumhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2016706:17
azmodeanI thought that was typical across the ubuntu distros, not an expert of course though...06:17
XVampireXAndruk_Tatum: 1. the admin password is your user password. 2. you may need to download the neccessary codecs to be able to play sound 3. if 2 fails, you need to configure your sound driver.06:17
unix_infidelanyone know how to allow access to all 192.168.1.* in hosts.allow??06:17
Andruk_Tatumum, okay...so, for mp3 files in amarok, how do i find what codecs i need?06:18
Andruk_Tatumoh, and m4a files06:18
djclue917unix_infidel: what's the output of "route -n"06:18
crimsunAndruk_Tatum: lsmod |grep ^snd_ens137106:19
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NeoFaxAndruk_Tatum: cat /var/log/messages | grep snd_ens137106:19
Andruk_Tatumneither return anything06:20
NeoFaxAndruk_Tatum: sudo modprobe snd_ens137106:21
Andruk_Tatumnuttin06:21
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NeoFaxAndruk_Tatum: Now see if kmix see's the card06:22
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djclue917Andruk_Tatum: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats06:23
djclue917Andruk_Tatum: that's the link for all your multimedia needs.06:23
inc|freakyhi all. does anyone know how to add GIF support to rrdtool?06:23
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Andruk_Tatum:O it sees the card (thats progress)06:24
Andruk_Tatumthx06:24
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NeoFaxAnyone know how to up the debug level for postfix to see what the delivery location is?06:24
NeoFaxAndruk_Tatum: Do sudo apt-get install sysv-rc-conf.  then run sudo sysv-rc-conf and turn on alsa for levels 2345.06:25
NeoFaxI am having problems with postfix not delivering to a virtual maildir.06:26
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Andruk_Tatumk06:27
Windi must be doing something wrong because it still gives me the error "mount: can't find /dev/hdc1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab06:27
Windi try sudo mount /dev/hdc1 /mnt/sd106:28
Windbut it doesn't work06:28
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Andruk_TatumNeofax: okay, now what?06:29
NeoFaxAndruk_Tatum: Have you turned on ALSA for levels 2345?06:30
Andruk_Tatumyes06:30
NeoFaxIf so, do invoke-rc.d alsa restart06:30
NeoFaxThen do sudo invoke-rc.d alsa-utils restart06:30
Andruk_Tatuminvoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/alsa not found.06:30
NeoFaxThis should restart your sound card drivers.06:31
NeoFaxok do ls -l | grep alsa06:31
Andruk_Tatumnothing06:31
azmodeanalso you can check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449 if you haven't already "comprehensive sound problems guide for ubuntu"06:32
Andruk_Tatumah, thank you06:32
NeoFaxok do ls -l /etc/init.d | grep alsa,  This is what it should have read06:32
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Andruk_Tatum-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  9282 2006-05-29 06:03 alsa-utils06:33
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sinppa_is anybody having problems with plf-repos? or is the problem only in my sources.list :O06:34
NeoFaxSo then do invoke-rc.d alsa-utils restart06:35
crimsunAndruk_Tatum: pastebin your amixer output06:35
jimmydoes anyone know how to find out what the environmental variables are in Imagemagick? I am trying to find the temporary directory it uses06:35
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NeoFaxsinppa_: They changed their server to freecontribs.org I think.06:37
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danlAll xine based media players error and say all audio drivers fail. Why would this be?06:38
sinppa_NeoFax: ok, ill try to fix my sources.list and try if it's working06:38
Andruk_Tatumhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2016906:38
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danlinclude vlc in that06:39
danlall audio seems to fail06:40
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adamf4ihello06:40
NeoFaxAndruk_Tatum: What does tail /var/log/messages say?  ALSA failed and should have written why it did.06:41
crimsunAndruk_Tatum: amixer set 'Master' 80% && amixer set 'Line In->Rear Out' on && amixer set 'PC Speaker' on06:41
Hawkwinddeb http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/ dapper free non-free06:42
Hawkwinddeb-src http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/ dapper free non-free06:42
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Hawkwindsinppa_: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^06:42
adamf4ianyone know much about installing video drivers im having alot fo trouble06:42
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thompadani: have you tried alsaconf06:42
danlno, sound just suddenly stopped working, because it worked before06:43
sinppa_Hawkwind: I have it exactly like that. I think my problem about problems with my ISP. Some sites aren't working :O Guess I'll just have to wait and see06:43
sinppa_but thanks anyway :)06:43
Hawkwindsinppa_: No problem :)06:44
Andruk_Tatumhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2017106:44
Hawkwindsinppa_: Might be a DNS issue.  Might check in /etc/resolv.conf and make sure you have nameservers listed there correctly06:44
sinppa_Hawkwind: I think it isn't about that, I blame that damned ISP. Many other are having problems with that06:46
danleh, n/m fixed it06:47
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crimsunAndruk_Tatum: right, now ``amixer /usr/share/sounds/KDE*up.wav''06:47
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Andruk_Tatumamixer: Unknown command '/usr/share/sounds/KDE_Startup.wav'...06:48
crimsunAndruk_Tatum: err, sorry, aplay not amixer06:48
crimsun(too many things going on simultaneously)06:49
Andruk_Tatumnp06:49
adamf4ianyone know much about installing video drivers im having alot fo trouble06:49
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Andruk_Tatumokay, OMG06:50
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Andruk_Tatumzound!06:50
soulrideradamf4i: i can help you if you want06:50
tidiman07hi, i need someone with nmap to help for a sec06:50
Andruk_Tatumokay, so that got sound06:50
NeoFaxAndruk_Tatum: Now do alsactl -s to save these as default.06:50
adamf4iok06:51
Andruk_TatumOMG, thank you so much!!!!06:51
soulriderok, first did you follow the instruction on the site06:51
NeoFaxAs for the mp3 and such you need to install the other codecs06:51
soulrider!nvidia06:51
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto06:51
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Andruk_Tatum"invalid option -- s"06:51
adamf4isoul u got aim06:51
soulrideryea06:51
soulriderDarkstar255806:51
tidiman07need help from nmap user06:52
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NeoFaxAndruk_Tatum: alsactl store06:53
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Andruk_Tatumthank you!06:54
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Andruk_Tatum"alsactl: save_state:1190: Cannot open /var/lib/alsa/asound.state for writing" sudo?06:54
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tidiman07who has nmap installed?06:55
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tidiman07nobody wants to help me?06:56
adamf4ineed help installin video drivers < ATI06:56
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NeoFaxAndruk_Tatum: Maybe I will get it this time? sudo alsactl store06:56
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adamf4ineed help installin video drivers < ATI07:01
abattoir!ati07:01
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto07:01
abattoiradamf4i: ^^^^ followed that guide ?07:02
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(intelikey/#kubuntu) wolfmanz idk a while now. why ?09:14
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intelikeylong enough to make it do what i want it to.  whether the distor/packagers think it should or not.   :)09:15
wolfmanzintelikey: what makes kubuntu make secure then say windows xp aside from being logged in as root and the fact linux dont dont have the user number s windows does?09:15
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intelikeywolfmanz sorry for not being able to translate that,  but could you rephrase it please ?09:16
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nixternalno viruses, no spyware, no malware...shall i continue?  oh, and when there is a USN security notice the devs and security team have a fix released immediately09:16
wolfmanzintelikey: do you think linux/kubuntu is more secure then windows xp and if so why is it?09:17
Jucatonixternal speaketh, we must all listen :-D09:17
nixternalheh09:17
Jucatos/listen/listeneth09:17
Jucatolol09:17
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EricCartmanIs there a tool to select active gcc version ?09:18
EricCartmanas in, c++ will call g++-3.4 etc09:19
nixternalgood question..kinda like you can select a java version and make it active09:19
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(nixternal/#kubuntu) intelikey: you cut off at 'moderately09:22
(intelikey/#kubuntu) secure' by default, it can09:22
(nixternal/#kubuntu) i love the 12lb hammer bit though ;)09:22
(Jucato/#kubuntu) intelikey: how do you do one-liner commands without sudo?09:22
(intelikey/#kubuntu) be enhanced greatly without the hammer09:22
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(intelikey/#kubuntu) Jucato ?09:22
ubuntuI have a question09:22
(nixternal/#kubuntu) ask away ubuntu09:22
ubuntuwhy can I not mount my HDD09:22
Jucatointelikey:  i mean,using su? coz there's no sudo in MEPIS :-D09:22
nixternalhow are you trying to mount it?09:23
ubuntuI am using kubuntu in a live disk fashion09:23
ubuntujust right clicking in konquerer and selecting mount09:23
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nixternalthat works for me09:23
ubuntuits NTFS09:23
Jucatointelikey: so if I just wanted to "apt-get install blahblahblah", I have to use "su", then the command, then "exit"...09:23
intelikeyJucato you have to su -    then run the command string    that is (script wise) safer in a sense09:23
nixternaloh, then it won't work i do not believe, but i don't have ntfs or fat anywhere in theis house09:23
ubuntuno NTFS read support?09:24
nixternalya, it can read ntfs no doubt09:24
ubuntuI thought pretty much all distros had NTFS read support09:24
intelikeyJucato i think su can run commands also09:24
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intelikeyJucato man su    -c will cause the next argument to be treated as a command09:25
tknfts3g is almost done in beta I believe... it works great for me with r/w for NTFS09:25
Jucatohmm... interesting09:25
ubuntuso what do you suggest09:25
nixternali need to get me a ntfs partition so i can play around i guess09:25
JucatoI'll try that later in MEPIS. :-D09:25
nixternaltk, can he use it via live cd?09:25
nixternali mean is it easy for him to grab and install?09:25
Jucatoubuntu: have you made a mount point (something like /media/hda3) for your NTFS drive?09:25
imbrandon_ubuntu: http://jclark.org/weblog/Miscellany/Tech/ubrescue.html09:26
imbrandon_^^ explains it easy like09:26
tknixternal: its not completely simple, have to download FUSE and install it, then get ntfs3g working correctly09:26
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nixternalya, i seen that in the forums09:26
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intelikeywolfmanz did that answer your question?09:26
ubuntuno, I assume mount makes a point and whatnot09:26
tknixternal: when I setup it up this time, I'm gonna try and script it so its a 1 shot deal in the future09:26
nixternali could always make a ntfs partition for like a gig or something to play with ;)09:26
tknix: dont even need a gig :P09:27
Jucato!ntfs09:27
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse09:27
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ubuntuerror is "mount: can't find /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"09:27
imbrandon_ubuntu: http://jclark.org/weblog/Miscellany/Tech/ubrescue.html09:27
imbrandon_^^ explains it easy like09:27
nixternaltk, i bought all these big supid hard drives, and only use like 5%09:27
nixternal;) i can use a gig09:27
nixternallol09:27
wolfmanzintelikey: i'm thinkiing about your answer lol...09:27
tknixternal: and getting ntfs3g to mount via fstab appears to be tricky, mine I had to mount every reboot cause my fstab line wasnt right09:27
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tknixternal: I'll buy one? then you can increase your % :P09:28
nixternallol09:28
intelikeydd if=/dev/zero of=file && mkfs.ntfs file09:28
Jucatoubuntu: you might want to read this, too: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows.php09:28
intelikeyand yes that needs a limit on the size or it will fill the drive.09:29
nixternalwe can tell who still uses windows in here ;)09:29
tkhmmm why does amarok keep rebuilding my collection everytime i run it...09:29
imbrandon_you probably have rescan collection on startup checked in the options09:29
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tki didnt see that option, just checked for it09:30
intelikeynixternal some body in here uses M$ ???    lets hang 'em09:30
nixternaltk, it did that to me as well...i blasted my ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok directory and restarted amarok..it did a scan one time and that was it afterwards09:30
Jucatotk: do you do something that changes the contents of the folders that Amarok is supposed to be watching for it's collection, before you start Amarok?09:31
nixternali also had a bogus file muckin' up amarok as well09:31
wolfmanzi use windows all the time09:31
tkJucato: nope09:31
Jucatohmm...09:31
nixternalme to wolfmanz, everytime i get in my car i roll them down09:31
wolfmanzlol i meant windows xp lol09:31
intelikeywolfmanz security is not why i use linux.    i can tell you why i use linux in one word    " EULA "    plain and simple.09:32
tknixternal: i blasted all the .DB and .html/xml files from that a bit ago, but I switch  to used MySQL instaed of SQLite... maybe it doesnt work with MySQL well?09:32
nixternalno intelikey, CUSTOMIZABLE09:32
nixternal;)09:32
nixternalooh, that i don't know, as i only used the lite09:32
wolfmanzintelikey: why do they bother you?09:32
Jucatonixternal: same reason as mine. Security and stability only came 2nd and 3rd09:32
nixternalyup09:32
intelikeyno that's not why.   i do like that,  but the reason is the EUKA09:32
nixternali love how i can hack my Kubuntu anyway that i like09:32
djclue917intelikey: EULA is not a word. :D09:32
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intelikeyone in every crowd09:33
Jucatolol09:33
nixternalim free to break it, reinstall it, oh, and never have to register or re-register, or call because i registered more then 5 times or what not ;)09:33
Jucatohe should have said: 1 acronym "EULA"09:33
tkdjclue917: its pronounced you-luh :P09:33
Jucatoor if I change my processor/motherboard, I won't have to buy a new license :-D09:33
Search4Lancerhow do I disable Flash in Firefox? I don't want to uninstall it, just temp disable it, it's really slowing me down, all these freaking flash ads09:34
intelikeyah ha.   acronym literly means another name   NAME  as in word   ha  :)09:34
tklol09:34
tklets blast that dir again and see what happens09:34
ubuntuok, editing the fstab worked09:36
tkbleh konveration doesnt to /exec i guess09:36
ubuntuone thing down, although I dont know why its so tricky09:36
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djclue917tk: yeah i know that.09:36
wordstop saying word :(09:36
ubuntunow I got a whole new question09:36
tkdjclue917: I was implying that it is a word since it has a pronunciation not that you didnt know what it was ;)09:37
Jucatois anyone else experiencing lag in freenode lately?09:37
ubuntumy other computer wont boot kubuntu as a live disk09:37
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ubuntugets going09:38
ubuntueverything "ok"09:38
ubuntugets past the screen where it says it comes without warranty09:38
djclue917tk: well, it isn't a word. and AFAIK, most acronyms have pronunciations too like GNU for example..09:38
ubuntuthen it just freezes09:38
intelikeybut at any rate, when i used M$-DOS  i wanted it to be "free"  even though i didn't even know there was a unix at that time.  then windows came along and i thought they should at least gpl the old dos apps seeing they had stopped supporting them and stopped developing them.   but some where about there i found linux   and the rest as they say is history.09:38
tkdjclue917: it was also sarcasm that's poorly conveyed over IRC :P09:39
Jucatoubuntu: have you tried to start the CD in safe graphics mode?09:39
ubuntuyep09:39
Jucatohm...09:39
ubuntuits odd, this is the crappy computer09:39
ubuntudoesn't work on my good one09:39
intelikeydjclue917 names are words.09:40
ubuntuI tried the 64 bit originally, since its an amd6409:40
ubuntudidn't work, so I tried the 32 bit09:40
ubuntudidn't work either09:40
Jucatoerr... words... names... sounds...09:40
tkhmmm i guess I should start working towards NTFS r/w support agian since thereis no whay I am backing up  300gigs to convert to ext3, not when I need to use them at work occasionally09:40
djclue917intelikey: names, of course are words. but acronyms are acronyms. they are never words.09:40
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banana21ok there09:41
tkwow is an acronym and a word... :P (more sarcasm sorry)09:41
banana21figured out how to change my nick09:41
word:(09:41
intelikeylazer xray scuba and even nasa are not words...09:41
HealotWindows on Windows?09:42
tkword, why use a nick so easily triggered by sentences?09:42
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HealotWOW09:43
worder.....my nick was there first? o.O09:43
intelikeypow09:43
wordyes that seems like a good answer09:43
intelikeycups09:43
intelikeywine09:43
Arkkisword, you could reverse your nick09:43
Arkkisdrow09:43
JucatoGNOME09:43
tkbut his he a dark elf? :P09:43
Jucato:D09:43
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tkbut is he... rather09:43
word><09:44
Arkkis:D09:44
intelikey:)09:44
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banana21any idea of the issue?09:44
Arkkisheh09:44
banana21im thinking something is missing a driver09:44
Arkkisa, say something09:44
alol09:45
Arkkishehe09:45
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JucatoI'm me again!!!09:45
Arkkisyay09:45
djclue917intelikey: yeah they're not.by the way, when did X-ray became an acronym?09:46
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intelikeydjclue917 you win.09:46
Jucatoround one. FIGHT!09:46
Jucatoer... Round Two, I mean..09:46
intelikeynot interested Jucato,  sorry.09:47
Jucatointelikey: ^_^09:47
alkaliSo I created my own kernel successfully and booted it.  But the headers it made, did not make a makefile.cpu in the i386 folder and now ati drivers won't finish installing.  What is my best option?09:47
Arkkisheh, someones nick is _09:48
banana21did you see, ati might open source their drivers09:48
djclue917intelikey: no i didn't. anyways, back to Kubuntu-related topics. :)09:48
alkaliouch09:48
banana21intel just did for one of their chipsets09:48
alkalidamn that wasn't even subtle09:49
intelikeywolfmanz about 'security'  ever get a virus ?09:49
alkaliact like no one in here owns an ati card using ubuntu packages to install it09:49
Jucato....09:49
alkali261 people and I'm the only one with an ati card09:49
alkaliI'm calling ripleys09:50
wolfmanzintelikey: 2 back in the dos days a buddy of mine sent me a infected file lol09:50
djclue917alkali: fallback to the default kernel? you wont gain anything in recompiling you own kernel unless you really need to recompile your own because unexpected problems perhaps.09:50
intelikeyalkali nv here09:50
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alkalidjclue917: I only recompiled because I heard my pci controller was supported in the new kernel.09:51
alkaliit was true09:51
intelikeywolfmanz heh  yeah,   i even got the   ny-boot  bug on my hdd in the dos days.   lots of learning curve there...  lol09:51
wolfmanzintelikey: the one i had was the doom death virus lol it was a pian in the ass cleaning that one up09:52
alkalidjclue917: can I use the same file do you think from the other kernel?09:52
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intelikeywolfmanz ever got one in linux ?09:52
djclue917alkali: are you talking about the kernel modules? i don't think so..09:52
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djclue917alkali: have you applied patches to your recompiled kernel?09:53
alkalino, vanilla style with ubuntu config file09:53
intelikeycaution    kernel version mismatch09:53
alkaliI'll tackle suspend2 another day09:53
djclue917alkali: i think you still need to separately recompile the fglrx kernel modules for your new kernel09:53
wolfmanzintelikey: no i havent used linux long enough only have looked at it a few times and only recently i installed kubuntu all my other time was spent on windows and never had a virus on that ethier.09:53
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djclue917alkali: so you installed a newer kernel? 2.6.17 perhaps?09:54
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alkalidjclue917: that is the one.  And I haven't installed fglrx or ati on any kernel.  This was my first attempt.09:54
intelikeywolfmanz uncommon,  most have several along the way...      as for linux there are about what 5 virii that can/could affect the linux sustem... i've never seen one of them.09:55
tki love how sometimes amarok just wont load, but if you cmd line it, it opens right up09:55
intelikeysystem09:55
djclue917alkali: you need to build the ati kernel modules for your new kernel. however, i'm afraid i can't help you with that. you may opt to search for HOWTOs regarding that matter.09:55
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alkalidjclue917: all I needed was a direction and you pointed me that way.  I'll let google handle this. :)09:56
wolfmanzintelikey: its only uncommon if you dont use common sence. Alot of windows users are stupid and most virus people do get are from e-mail attachments. If they used more common sence they wouldnt have most of the problems they do have09:56
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djclue917alkali: well goodluck searching. actually, i think i've read something about installing new versions of fglrx but i forgot the link.09:57
wolfmanzintelikey: also they have to keep off the porn sites lol and dont use Internet explorer with its active x crap09:57
alkalidjclue917: it's all good, thank you for your time.  I know its a kubuntu room.  ATI's room is so unhelpful sometimes.09:58
Healot8 patches for Windows XP SP2 this month09:58
Jucato_only 8?09:58
Healoteventually they fix the Yahoo! thing09:58
Healotfor XP SP209:58
Jucato:-D09:58
Healot23 in total - 3 for Office, 20 for Windows (various)09:58
djclue917alkali: BTW, have you tried downloading ATI's installer? you can generate a *.deb file with their installer. I just don't know if it will work. i haven't tried it yet.09:59
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krautmoin09:59
Healotno rollup udates :)09:59
Healotall new i guess09:59
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djclue917alkali: this may help you: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide10:00
intelikeywolfmanz and at the same time "if people used common sense"   is like saying if a frog had wings...10:00
alkalidjclue917: oh I followed the wiki word for word.  Just when I got to sudo module-assistant build fglrx it gave me the error that I didn't have a makefile.cpu10:00
alkaliin my new headers10:00
alkalibut both other kernels have that file in them.10:00
djclue917alkali: oh... i guess it didn't worked also.10:01
wolfmanzintelikey: common sence comes after you have been effected once lol then you make sure that dont happen again10:01
intelikeywolfmanz that's one reason i don't want 'most' people to use linux.    most people are idiots.10:01
intelikey</shrugs>10:01
wolfmanzintelikey: i agree with you witch makes me wonder how secure linux would be if it had the same user base windows does10:02
tkhmmm, now for a good way to make my volume controls actually control my volume....10:02
Healothoho10:02
Jucato_well, just look at it this way: for new users to survive in Linux, they will be forced to learn good and safe computer habits. If they succeed in that, they will go on with Linux. But if they refuse to learn, they'll go back to the other side... :-D10:02
Healotrefering to thyself?10:03
alkalidjclue917: that's what lead me here.  But if it comes down to it I'll post in the forums and find an alternative10:03
intelikeyheh yeah that's one good thing about coding for open source.   you ain't paying me, i don't work for you.  i'll write the damn thing the way i want it.    if you don't like it, you fix it.10:03
intelikey:)10:03
Jucato_tk: which of the volume controls in KMix does control your volume?10:03
tkJucato: oddly... my volume buttons control no volumes10:04
Jucato_tk: all of them? not even PCM?10:04
intelikeyand there are always 13 knotheads that will do just that.10:04
tknpe, not even PCM10:04
Jucato_ok.. that's strange..10:04
tkwith ubuntu, it controled my master volume10:05
tkkubuntu for some reason is different in many aspects as to what does and doesnt work10:05
intelikeytk command line   alsamixer   and see if it controls volume10:06
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tkintelikey: yes it does, my kmix controls it, but doesnt respond to any of my volume controlls10:09
tkalsamixer doesnt respond to it either of course10:09
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tkI rigged it up in Ubuntu so that all my volume keys moved all the volume controls, but that killed my OSD which kubuntu seems to lack as well10:10
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tkwith xbindkeys... but im hoping to find a more... pleasing solution10:10
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Ash-FoxYou messed with ubuntu, which killed some OSD kubuntu has, what?10:11
tkno10:11
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Jucato_I think you menan ESD?10:11
Jucato_s/menan/mean10:12
Healoti think he meant OSD10:12
Healotsorry ESD :)10:12
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Jucato_egege10:12
Jucato_ehhehe10:12
tkin Ubuntu, volume control worked, it had an ON SCREEN DISPLAY when you changed the volume, but with linux it appers lineout/earphones/master volume are all seperate entitities, so I used Xbindkeys to tie them all together via alsamixer, but made the OSD stopp displaying10:12
Jucato_aaaah10:13
Jucato_hmmm10:13
tkhowever, I like knowing roughly how high my volumes are so I'd like to find a better solution10:13
tkmy sound runs through my surround system which can be bad if the volume is cranked and I forget :P10:13
Ash-Foxrun kmix10:14
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Ash-Foxand configure it's global shortcuts10:14
intelikeytk idk  a quick scan on the wiki's didn't help anything.   jugle maybe10:14
tkash: kmix doesnt appear to do OSD10:14
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Ash-Foxtk, hm, yes it appears it doesn't, what a annoyance10:16
gogetaenable it10:16
tkgogeta: I see no options for that in kmix10:17
gogetaprobly from alisa10:17
Jucato_the only OSD it has is when you are actually changing the volume control, either by shortcut keys or by rolling your mouse wheel over the kmix icon10:17
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intelikeyi realized eariler that i don't have 'kubuntu' any more...   kde being absent   and it's not  'ubuntu'  cause 'nome is not there...  i just have  buntu  i guess.     but it may not even be that seeing that  python and perl are both missing....10:17
Ash-Foxintelikey, if you want to get it back sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop I believe10:18
intelikeyAsh-Fox ok10:18
tkintelikey: so what DE do you use?10:18
tkdesktop environment...10:18
intelikeyDE ...  none.10:18
tksorry, work gets me into acronyms :/10:19
tkuse terminal progs?10:19
intelikeyconsole10:19
Jucato_whoa10:19
Jucato_you're using irssi right now?10:19
intelikeyno10:19
intelikeybitchx  irssi needs perl10:19
gogetai see alot more cotnroles in alisa mixer10:19
gogetaand stuff you can unhide10:20
tkalisa or alsa?10:20
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gogetaalsamixer10:21
gogetaall kmix is a gui for it10:21
gogetastuff you unhide there will be in kmix10:21
gogetaif it supports osd then you should be able to enable it from there10:22
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tki dont see anything to unhide in the cmd line alsa display10:22
gogetaguess its not hidden10:23
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gogetahumm10:23
intelikeyit's like hot10:24
Jucatosleepy...10:26
HealotALSA like Salsa, she's one hot audio driver10:26
gogetawhats like hot lol10:26
gogetalol10:26
Jucatothey could have just called ALSA as ALISA... Advanced LInux Sound Architecture.. :-D10:27
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intelikeyvery simular to hot10:27
Jucatohmm...10:28
intelikeyone might even surmise that it actually is hot.10:28
Jucatodoes anyone know of any "easy" and not too technical tips/tricks/howto's to speed up Kubuntu? prelinking doesn't work, btw10:28
gogetaDevelopers: Intel Open Sources Graphics Drivers10:29
gogetalol10:29
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gogetaguess alsomt every igp will be supported10:29
gogetalol10:29
JucatoI'll rejoice over that news the day Intel makes non-IGP video cards10:29
HobbseeJucato: kill off unneeded programs works pretty well - start with an empty, or a saved, cut back session10:29
gogetaill rejoyec when it says ati10:29
gogetaand nivida10:29
JucatoHobbsee: done. even reduced the number of virtual terminals. Still not that fast :-D10:30
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Jucatodefinitely slower the MEPIS 6 out of the box... :-(10:30
HobbseeJucato: true...run xfce if you're really looking for speed10:30
Jucatoor slower than Ubuntu (gastp!)10:30
gogetalol10:30
Hobbseeprobably slower than suse too... if you find their performance patches, do tell10:30
gogetaits fast for me10:30
gogetaits faster then suse10:30
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gogetaand easer to matane10:30
Jucatogogeta: I thought Kubuntu was fast too. until I installed SimplyMEPIS 610:31
intelikeyJucato number of vt's has negledgable affect.   an idle console uses 0 cpu     at least in theory.10:31
JucatoI don't believe in the "you want fast, use Xfce" answer (no offense meant Hobbsee)10:31
intelikeyyou want fast use twm      hehhe10:32
Ash-FoxXFCE never gave me kio slaves and memory efficient applications10:32
Jucatocoz, I saw how MEPIS 6 was faster on my system, while still using KDE with all the bling...10:32
Jucatoheh, Xfce doesn't even have a trash can right now :-D10:32
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HobbseeJucato: true.  however, xfce is known to be a lot faster anyway10:32
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JucatoBut boy was Xubuntu really fast, even on a live cd10:32
gogetalol10:32
gogetamepis10:32
gogetawell diffrent distro10:33
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Jucatogogeta: half truth. MEPIS 6 is now basically half Kubuntu10:33
Healotbecause it is lightweight/minimalist10:33
gogetalol10:33
Jucatoin fact, MEPIS 6 has only one MEPIS repository. the rest are all Ubuntu's10:33
gogetawhant spped get the gentoo stage 1 cd10:33
gogetacompile your own dam system10:34
gogetalol10:34
Jucatoouch...10:34
Jucato @_@10:34
robimo Mepis is really nice, Mark should take a few devels under the Kubuntu wing or something10:34
JucatoI was hoping I wouldn't need to leave10:34
Ash-FoxWhat I really like about kubuntu, is how many things are already configured out of the box, unlike other distros where I'd have to mess with configuring arts if I wanted it to work, not just simply install the package10:34
gogetayou get the kernel and emerge lol10:34
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intelikeyfull truth.   wouldn't matter if it was 99.9% blah it's still a different distro.10:34
Jucatointelikey: true. But if you look at the resources behind Kubuntu and MEPIS, who would you presume to have a better performance, disregarding multimedia codecs and other restricted stuff? (talking about speed and optimization here)10:35
intelikeyJucato debian    where they both come from....10:36
wckdkl0wnanyone know of a newsreader for linux?10:36
gogetaand abought 50 others10:36
gogetalol10:36
Ash-Foxwckdkl0wn, thunderbird, knode.10:36
Jucatointelikey: lol!! but Debian is severely hampered by it's development process10:36
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Jucatogogeta: 50 others?10:36
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gogetahow many linux distros are there lol10:36
gogeta130?10:36
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lhdswhen i try to modprobe my tv card i get insmod /lib/modules/2.6.17.7/kernel/drivers/media/video/saa7134/saa7134.ko sox -c 2 -s -w -r 32000 -t ossdsp /dev/dsp1 -t ossdsp /dev/dsp tuner=54 card=65 i2c_scan=1 oss=1 video_nr=0 dsp_nr=1 mixer_nr=3  where  are those arguments saved?10:36
wckdkl0wnnot talking about mail clients10:36
intelikeyJucato you call hampered  we call 'good'.10:36
JucatoI'm just talking about Kubuntu and MEPIS since they share the same base10:37
wckdkl0wnnewsreaders for opening nzb files10:37
gogetaso10:37
gogetasame base doesent make a diffrence10:37
gogetaits on how its built10:37
Ash-Foxwckdkl0wn, you asked for newsreaders, not usenet binary downloaders.10:37
Jucatointelikey: well, that depends. Debian is rock solid stable. But some later releases of some packages involved speed optimizations10:37
gogetahey that depends to10:38
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gogetago downloading the unsatble relese10:38
gogetall10:38
Jucatogogeta: that's the point. They have the same base. Kubuntu has more developers than MEPIS (which basically only has Warren). Then why is MEPIS still faster?10:38
gogetayou whont say that10:38
wckdkl0wnmy bad yea thats what i meant though10:38
JucatoI'm only talking about Debian Sarge10:38
gogetamaybe couse he builds it tobe faster10:39
gogetayou can make any distro fast10:39
gogetabut you lose ease of use and compatbly10:39
Jucatoand we'll presume that Kubuntu was built to be fast, too?10:39
gogetai can make tis distro fly if i wanted to take the time to recompile it for my pc10:40
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gogetabut its fast enough10:40
Jucatooh, sorry, let me make a small clarification. "Out of the box"10:41
intelikeyJucato being a year or two behind for a reason    it's not foolish to say.  'what if they find a hiden flaw that wrecks everything'   caution  as wolfmanz pointed out eariler is more often than not, a good thing.     but they build more than one brand of automobile because not everyone likes the same things.10:41
Ash-Foxwckdkl0wn, I can't remember the name of it, but it's definately under add/remove programs, under internet somewhere.10:41
Ash-FoxJust look at the description to find it10:41
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intelikeyJucato kubuntu is not designed to be fast.  no.10:41
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gogetaacully it was10:42
gogetafor a kde distro itflys10:42
TheHighChildwckdkl0wn: I use knode as my newsreader, not suer if it will do what you want10:42
intelikeyi disagree.10:42
gogetait was built to be fast and comoatble10:42
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Jucatojust remember, I'm not comparing Kubuntu's speed with other DE's speed (Xfce or GNOME)10:42
gogetaso you got a inbetween10:42
Jucatojust within the KDE distros circle10:42
intelikeythe default kubuntu is not even fast for kubuntu.   a little tweeking and it's much better/faster...10:42
gogetafast for me10:43
gogetamakes suse look slow10:43
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JucatoIt's faster than Windows, I'm sure of that :-D10:43
gogetahell yea10:43
intelikeybut suse is slow10:43
Bazzinot really :-(10:43
gogetaany liux distro is10:43
gogetamaybe not a fresh install of windows10:44
gogetabut any normel version10:44
gogetathats been loaded with shit10:44
Jucatoanyway, back to my original question: what other things can I do to improve speed/performance in Kubuntu?10:44
gogetaif you whant spped to be honest using kde was a bad idea10:44
JucatoFresh install of XP is fast, but barely usable. :-D10:44
gogetaspeed10:44
Jucatogogeta: why?10:44
gogetakde is the sloest windows manager for linux10:45
intelikeyrenice it   lol10:45
gogetacouse it looks nice etc10:45
Jucatoprobably, but that doesn't mean it has to be slow. Again, back to my example of MEPIS...10:45
clemonsXP always seems to go kind of crappy until you tune it up a bit, in my opinion10:45
JucatoIt's KDE, but it's not that slow either.10:45
intelikeygogeta 'nome runs it a good race there.10:45
gogetayea10:45
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gogetagnome is a bit faster but bloted as well10:46
Jucatolol! that's the first time I heard anyone say GNOME was bloated... (if that's what you meant by "bloted")10:46
Healotcpu specific kernel?10:46
gogetawell you can change kdes setting to performance mode10:46
JucatoHealot: running k7 kernel on AMD Sempron 220010:46
gogetait turns off all the fancy eye candy10:46
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Healotless services running in the background, recompile kernel to modules that you need10:47
intelikeyJucato gnome is bloated.   now you have heard it two times... :)10:47
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gogetaif you whant real spped run somethinglike xfce10:47
gogetathere built to be fast10:47
JucatoHealot: done. except the recompiling the kernel. last time I did that it went bad. Probably added to the fact that I'm using the NVIDIA binary drivers10:47
intelikeytwm10:47
gogetayep twm windows maker10:48
gogetathers a few10:48
wckdkl0wnis there anyway to clean up a video playing in full screen in vlc.. its all choppy no matter what vid i play10:48
Jucatoso am I safe to presume that what you all mean is that it's impossible for Kubuntu to be fast, using KDE and KWin...10:48
gogetanot relly10:48
Healotgogeta, so do you prefer somthing like OpenMotif?10:48
Jucatowell, that seems to be where the answers are going...10:48
gogetabut you full speed10:48
gogetafor10:48
Jucatoi don't need full speed. I just want "faster than this..."10:49
gogetarunning a lightwight system10:49
gogetawhats your pc specs btw10:49
Jucato1.5 GHz, 640MB RAM, NVIDIA w/ 128MB memory10:49
Hobbseeouch?10:49
gogetayou shouldent be slow at all10:49
Hobbseehmmm10:50
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gogeta1.8 p4 312 ram 128mb ati10:50
HealotI prefer Motif as in CDE for Linux, old school but rather lightweight10:50
Jucatowell, let's see. Kubuntu boots around 35 seconds10:50
Jucatono DHCP btw...10:50
gogeta?10:50
JucatoKDE starts up, oh around 10 or more seconds10:50
gogetaand your bitching10:50
Jucatono I'm not10:50
intelikeyhehhe twm specs     Installed-Size: 276      Depends: libc610:50
gogetathats relly quick for kde10:50
HealotJucato, if you need 3D acceleration, you can't drop that one out :010:51
JucatoHealot: yeah I need 3D..10:51
gogetayea kde relly goes when ituses dri10:51
gogetawell no wonder why10:51
gogetaits probly using mesa10:51
gogetavery slow10:51
gogetaget that nivida working10:52
JucatoBut MEPIS boots 5-10 seconds faster, KDE loads just a bit (5 seconds?) faster10:52
gogetadoes mepis include the nivida driver lol10:52
Jucatogogeta: I think I already mentioned that I'm using the NVIDIA driaver, that's why I'm not too keen on recompiling the kernel10:52
gogetathat is probly it10:52
HobbseeJucato: dapper or edgy?  although dapper is faster than breezy.10:52
Jucatogogeta: not out of the box, you still have to install it like in Kubuntu10:52
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JucatoHobbsee: dapper. yeah Dapper is definitely faster than Breezy10:53
gogetawell if you like mepis by  all means use it10:53
HobbseeJucato: seems that edgy is slightly faster again10:53
Jucato*sigh* I knew someone was going to say that10:53
gogetawell10:53
gogetathats the best answer10:53
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gogetain the end linux is linux10:53
gogetalol10:54
intelikeyJucato boot time has nothing at all to do with the window manager or even X .   it's in the init scripts.   if it's boot time you are wanting to improve, rather than actual performance.   it's sysvinit you need to learn about.10:54
HobbseeJucato: :P10:54
gogetathe diffrent styles10:54
gogetajust10:54
Jucato...10:54
gogetadistros use kde couse its pretty and easy to use10:54
gogetabut using a ultra ligh wm is very fast on any distro10:55
intelikeyand flexable10:55
Jucatoand customizable...10:55
Jucatooh well...10:55
Jucato:-(10:55
gogetamakes windows noobs fell at home etc10:55
Jucato @_@10:56
gogetayou forget the untmit goal is to kill windows10:56
gogetaand i think vista is gonna relly help us there10:56
intelikeygogeta kill windows ?       what windows ?10:57
Jucatobah nevermind... I'll just have to live through Dapper and hope that Edgy brings the speed...10:57
gogetaapple can always relese osx for pcs and kill us10:57
gogetalol10:57
gogetaosx ownez10:57
gogetai have a old g3 imac with osx10:58
TheGateKeeperJucato: try the OLiveCD it uses enlightenment as a desktop, and for a livecd the speed at which applications loaded impressed me, EliveCD also uses enlightenment but I could never get X to correctly start10:58
gogetaif linux could run ff11 trust me windows would nopt be on my pc10:58
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gogetawine can run it barly10:59
JucatoTheGateKeeper: done. thanks for the suggestion10:59
gogeta reg errors and crashes10:59
gogetaand cedega cant even launch it10:59
JucatoI was able to run E17 on the LiveCD, but it only installs E1610:59
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Jucatointelikey: sysvinit huh? I'll check it out. Although booting is just one of the examples I gave, but not the only one...11:00
gogetagood old eligmint11:00
gogeta that was king befor gnome11:00
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TheGateKeeperJucato: there are howto's I think on ubuntu forums too to do with e1711:00
intelikeygnome is not king now.11:00
gogetakde11:00
gogetalol11:01
Jucatolol11:01
gogetai dont knoe11:01
gogetaxgl gnome rocks11:01
Alatristepuff hi people11:01
Alatristesomebody knows why11:01
gogetabut still ver mutch aplha11:01
gogetavery11:01
Alatristein kbuntu i only heard sound in mono?11:01
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Alatristeonly by left speaker, not both11:01
RawSewageWindows copyrighted stereo sound11:01
gogetalol11:01
Alatristethe cable is stereo, i heard right in windows11:02
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AlatristeRawSewage: ?????????????11:02
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gogetawindows stole your harddrive11:02
intelikeyAlatriste alsamixer    check settings.11:02
gogetalol11:02
hkallinikoshello,i have installed the Kubuntu from the live cd,i now realized there is a dvd also,should i download the dvd for better?if i do can i overinstall whats missing from my current version without downgrading any updates i ahve made?11:03
gogetadvd iso11:03
gogetai dont think the new ver even has one11:03
Emessdioes anyone kno a way to get K3b to slightly compress burned media so that it fits on 4.4gb?11:03
intelikeyhkallinikos nothing is missing.11:03
gogetaark11:04
gogetacompress it11:04
hkallinikosso,why the 3.7 GB in dvd while only 697 MB on cd?11:04
gogetaburn it11:04
hads|homeDo any devs hang out here?11:04
grothesk_hkallinikos: Do you have a InternetConnection? Obviously... So you can download what is missing.11:04
gogetaof course11:04
gogetai only saw cd isos11:04
gogetawhat did they throw on the dvd11:04
gogetalol11:05
hkallinikosyes i have, ijust dont know what excactly is missing11:05
gogetaprobly knothing11:05
gogetayou can download anything you need11:05
Emessits for a dvd, cant exactly ark it11:05
Alatristeintelikey:  um, alsamixer and i only see a volumer mixer like win, but i put all to max  and i only conitnue hearing an speaker11:05
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intelikeyhkallinikos more 'on disk options'  but you have the full install.  extra packages (gnome for example) are in the repos on the web.11:05
grothesk_hkallinikos: When you do not miss something, there is nothing missing... :-)11:05
gogetatry moving the left to right11:05
gogetawell i dont think windows will even compress a dvd lol11:06
gogetathey just overburn11:06
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intelikeyAlatriste very interesting,  i don't know what to tell you.    crimsun is the audio pro around these parts... if he's around.11:07
gogetaspeakers are hardware it should output to them both no matter what11:07
intelikey!repos > hkallinikos11:07
gogetayou shure you got the slider set to center11:08
gogetain kmix11:08
intelikeygogeta that's why i said alsamixer  it has seperate L.R indicators11:08
gogetaok11:08
Alatristegogeta: , yes in center i only hear right, and if i move the left speaker nothing11:09
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gogetait a 5.1 card?11:09
gogetathat would be the only reasion i can think off only output is working11:09
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hkallinikos!repos11:09
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource11:09
gogetatry unmuting things lol11:09
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Alatristeintelikey: , um, I don't see L.R separate indicators in alsamixer, also i don't see in kmixer11:10
gogetai see mine11:10
gogetaat the bottom11:10
Alatristegogeta: it's a normal 2.1 integrated in a intel motherboard11:10
gogetahumm11:10
hkallinikosthnx guys i am new here,allthough i am at work now and i still have the Adept problem here,its passing over my proxy so i will have to try all these at home later11:10
intelikeyAlatriste does it have a seperate gui ???  the cli has seperate.11:11
Alatristegogeta: ah, yes, in kmixer yes, i move but does nothing11:11
gogetacheck your connections lol11:11
hkallinikos*its NOT passing over my proxy11:11
gogetaget a better proxy11:11
gogetalol11:11
Alatristealrigth, i say both speakers work fine in windows11:12
hkallinikoslol its not mine,its the companys11:12
hkallinikos!easysource11:12
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic11:12
gogetathey probly have it blocked or something11:12
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hkallinikosi work at the IT,nothing is blocked for me11:12
gogetalol11:13
gogetathen it should work11:13
hkallinikosIT manager also tried to bypass it,but its not11:13
hkallinikosi tried ALL the possible solutions i found on the foroums and they told me here11:13
intelikeymis-configured == blocked     in some cases...11:13
gogetayou try apt-get11:13
gogetaif that passes threw everything else should11:14
hkallinikosit doesnt accept the username/password authentication11:14
gogetadefently misconfigured11:14
hkallinikosbrowsing,ktorrent,konversation all work11:14
intelikeyhkallinikos only the users in the admin group can sudo    (assumes default)11:14
gogetahumm11:14
hkallinikosi did11:15
hkallinikosonly one user here11:15
intelikeycli type groups11:15
gogetabroswing ktorrent irc all non sudo11:15
intelikeysee admin ?11:15
hkallinikosi can sudo11:15
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gogetaits probly refusing the su user11:16
hkallinikosi sudo and give password11:16
hkallinikosohhh11:16
hkallinikossorry missaunderstanding for username/password11:16
hkallinikosusername/password on proxy cant pass11:16
intelikeyhmmm11:16
hkallinikosthe problem is with the proxy i assumed11:17
intelikeyproxie block root ?11:17
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gogetathats what im thinking11:17
hkallinikoslet me write you the messege11:17
gogetaprobly comfigured to allow the user11:17
gogetanot the root user11:17
gogetaif its rellt secure11:17
gogetarelly11:17
intelikeyfull circle    i'm back to      mis-configured == block    in some cases.11:18
hkallinikosok i typed sudo get-apt update gave my password11:18
hkallinikosand all the repos replied this11:18
hkallinikosFailed to fetch http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/universe/source/Sources.gz  407 Proxy Authentication Required ( The ISA Server requires authorization to fulfill the request. Access to the Web Proxy service is denied.  )11:18
gogetalol11:18
gogetacouse you didnt give it one11:18
hkallinikosi have declared it11:18
hkallinikoson my proxy address11:18
hkallinikoshttp_proxy=http://username:password@proxyip:port11:19
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intelikeyusername==root11:19
hkallinikosroot?11:19
gogetayes11:19
gogetasu is root11:19
hkallinikosno i give my proxy username and password11:20
gogetacommmon masake11:20
gogetayea but is your proxy configured to allow a login from root11:20
hkallinikosmy account on windows11:20
intelikeyidk.   i'm network illitrate.   i'll leave you to hammer that one out.11:20
gogetaproxys normaly check who is loggin in11:20
gogetafrom where11:20
hkallinikosbut for browsing11:21
hkallinikosit lets me go11:21
gogetaeven with the ciorrect name and pass it would refuse you11:21
hkallinikosi give the same username and password11:21
hkallinikoswhen prompt and it opens11:21
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intelikeyhkallinikos sumple test.   kdesu konqueror      and see if it lets you through.11:21
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hkallinikosi am in11:22
intelikeybrowse with that and see.   ^       but don't stay root for long.11:22
hkallinikosoh wait11:22
gogetathere we go11:22
gogetasudo -s11:22
hkallinikosno11:22
hkallinikosits not leting me browse11:22
gogetaexport http_proxy=http://myuname:mypass@myproxy:myport11:23
intelikeyit's  root.11:23
hkallinikosname and pass of my win account11:23
gogetalol11:23
hkallinikos?11:23
gogetayep11:23
gogetaworks for that session11:23
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gogetatells the term to use the proxy11:23
intelikeyyour browser was running as  'root'   the super-user of the linux world.11:23
intelikeythat's what kdesu/sudo/su do   they let you run things as  root     or other users, but defalt to root.11:24
intelikeyi left gksudo out of the list...11:24
gogetai dont think it was the user name11:24
gogetai think linux wasent seeing his proxy11:25
gogetafrom a term11:25
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hkallinikossame messege guys11:25
gogetais the proxy ms isa11:25
hkallinikosyes11:25
gogetahaha11:26
gogetathat why11:26
hkallinikosAHA11:26
intelikeyyeah.   i don't know how to fix that for you.   but i do know your problem.   your proxie is blocking  root   or you are not giving the passwd for the root access to the proxy11:26
hkallinikos:D11:26
gogetaadd this to your apt.conf11:26
gogetaAcquire::http::Proxy "http://MYDOMAIN\MYNAME:MYPASS@MY.PROXY.COM:MYPORT"11:26
hkallinikoshave allready tried that11:26
hkallinikosyesterday11:26
hkallinikos:(11:26
gogetathey say ms isa is a bitch11:27
hkallinikosnot not just bitch,more than that11:27
gogetaherrs a pyton work around11:28
gogetattp://www.geocities.com/rozmanov/ntlm/11:28
gogetahumm11:28
gogetasome said add this to the apt.conf as well11:29
gogetaquit a few11:29
gogeta;11:29
gogetalol11:29
intelikeysee hkallinikos  when you normally browse   you are hkallinikos@localhost    but when you sudo browse your are  root@localhost     if that makes it anymore clear.        sudo whoami11:29
hkallinikosyes i understand that :)11:30
intelikeyi knew you did,  i just like to see myself type...11:31
gogetahttp://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=541276&postcount=100611:31
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gogetathers a few ways11:32
gogetabut i dont think its on the linux side11:32
harmentalhi everybody;..11:32
harmentalquick question.....why do i need sudo to reboot from konsole but do not need adm rigths to reboot from the kicker?11:33
gogetakicker runs the same comand11:34
intelikeyharmental x is running as root11:34
gogetajust does it for you11:34
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gogetalol x isnt running as root11:34
intelikeyit is too11:34
gogetayou would never need pasrods if it was11:34
gogetapasswords11:34
intelikeyif you don't believe it  remount nosudi and try to startx as a user11:35
gogetaeverything would be launched under root11:35
harmentali agree...so?11:35
gogetaknothingis11:35
intelikeycall me a lier but you need to test it cause you don't know.11:35
gogetax root = bad11:35
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intelikeyX is always ran as root.   no questions asked.11:36
gogetaif x was root anything you launched would be root11:36
intelikeythen your DE WM are ran as whom ever.11:36
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gogetaoh11:36
gogetathats diffrent11:36
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gogetaits running in a isualted shell11:37
gogetai was abought to say11:37
harmentalfor instance when i lunch synaptic from x it asks me a passwd......so shouldnt it aske me for a pass to reboot as well?11:38
intelikeyls -l /usr/bin/Xorg11:38
gogetacouse if i was to sudo starx everything would be root11:38
gogetasome apps are ran as root11:38
gogetaothers are not11:38
harmentalintelikey: i get -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root11:39
gogetalike reboot it a ato script11:39
gogetaauto11:39
harmentalit is still unclear from me....(sorry for the newbiness...)11:40
gogetasome apps are auto launched as root11:40
gogetaminer things11:40
gogetalike the reboot11:40
gogetastuff that whont hurt the system11:40
gogetait would be a bad thing to lauch your package manager auto root11:41
QMarioHow do I extract 1 page from a PDF in Linux?11:42
harmentalyes i know.....so if it is safe to reboot the system...why do i need a password to do that in the first case?11:42
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gogetaits safe from x couse tyour using it11:46
gogetanot so from console11:47
Martijn81anyone knows a good working wmv to open format converter? (to theora?)11:47
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gogetathers alot11:47
intelikeystartx         Fatal server error:11:48
intelikeyxf86EnableIOPorts: failed to set IOPL for I/O (Operation not permitted)11:48
intelikeyX              Fatal server error:11:48
intelikeyxf86EnableIOPorts: failed to set IOPL for I/O (Operation not permitted)11:48
gogetaif it bothers you so you can make a script like the one x uses to do it from console11:48
gogetalol11:48
intelikeybut root starts it just fine...     reason  / mounted nosuid.11:48
tkugh, anyone ever installed Open Fingerprinting Architecture?11:50
tktrying to update musicbrainz update and it requires libtunepimp (horrid name) and it says I dont have it installed but I do11:51
berkouthi there :)11:52
intelikeyldconfig        help anything ?11:52
berkouti'm looking for some help with 3d accel in my kubuntu11:53
intelikey!ati11:53
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto11:53
tkintelikey: it didnt earlier but let me try again11:53
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tknope11:53
intelikeythat's all i know about that berkout ^11:53
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berkoutyeah, i know this tutorial11:54
berkouti'm asking because it's not working anymore :(11:54
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berkoutthose ati drivers really suck11:54
intelikeytk   building from source i suspose11:55
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berkoutfglrx modules are loaded, but dri is not11:55
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tkinte11:55
tkerr11:55
tkintelikey: yah, only way in this case11:55
berkoutfglrxinfo gives : Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".11:55
berkoutdisplay: :0.0  screen: 011:55
berkoutOpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org11:55
berkoutOpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect11:55
berkoutOpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1)11:55
berkoutsoulrider, it looks like the problem comes from the dri part11:56
intelikeytk what E: are you seeing ?11:56
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tki may have found it, one sec11:57
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intelikeyoh krap.  i just did  update and it is installing.     python-minimal python2.4-minimal      oh well i can remove them again.12:00
Jucatodid you just say "Krap"? :-D12:00
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tkok, i didnt figure it out12:00
intelikeyJucato yeah is that to strong of a word ?    next time i'll say  crap.12:00
Jucatointelikey: of course not! i love it! it's Kool! :-D12:01
tkintelikey: i see ths checking for version >= 0.4.0 in -lofa... no12:01
tkand get the "need version greater than blah" message when I just installed .5 higher than that (the latest download)12:01
intelikeyhehhe   i figured that was the kubuntu KDE way.   konsole kontrol krap12:01
intelikeywhat version you have ?12:02
Healotadept?12:02
intelikeytk ^12:02
Jucatodon't forget konversation, kool, konfusion, and kustomization :-D12:02
tkuhm I have libofa 0.9.312:02
tkand require 0.4.012:03
tkor greater12:03
intelikeyok that looks like a path error     dpkg -L package-name     and grep the configure to see if the path is bad  tk12:04
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tkwould it show up as a package if installed from src?12:04
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intelikeymaybe export something.err.other-path=/blah12:04
intelikeytk  err you installed the lib from source also ?12:05
KabalHello all, I search something like Windows Movie Maker under Kubuntu12:05
Kabaljust a little soft that can record movie from my usb webcam12:05
Kabaland to save them with xvid/ogg by exemple...12:05
KabalDoes it exist?12:05
hkallinikoswhat he means with that?"12:05
hkallinikosIf you Linux host name differs from Windows host name then it may be that12:05
hkallinikos#        MS server wont recognize you host at all and wont grant you access12:05
hkallinikos#        to resources requested.12:05
tkyes, its not in the.... adept lists12:05
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hkallinikoswindows host name on which pc?12:06
intelikeythe client (desktop) hkallinikos12:06
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hkallinikosso,which hostname should i type there?12:07
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intelikeytk then a search with find maybe... or slocate  if you updatedb sense the install of the source12:08
intelikeyhkallinikos i'd have to  /join ##linux     and ask in there...12:08
tkrunning updatedb now then ;)12:09
waylandbillKabal: linuxquestions.org lists Cinelerra, KDenlive and LiVES as equivs to WMM. Never used them personally tho.12:09
tkseveral SO's in usr/local/lib/12:09
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Kabalwaylandbill: thank you very much, I'll go and check it out :)12:10
intelikeyhmmm my usr/local/lib is empty12:10
tkmine has several things12:10
tkironically, its mostly stuff I installed by hand, so that could be why12:10
intelikeyusr/lib has much  and /lib   but local/ d'nada12:11
tkhmm12:11
intelikeyyeah that's why.12:11
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tkoke, so redo that and see if that fixes it, but I did tell the configure to look in usr/local/ and it still didnt find it12:11
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intelikeyall i've installed by hand here is a home grown kernel12:11
intelikeytk and the lib*.so in question is there ?12:12
intelikeyor is it looking for includes12:12
tklet me double check the configure script, the error doesnt give a specific file12:13
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intelikeythat didn't make good sense did it......    /ignore intelikey all12:13
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hads|homeAnyone tracking edgy and know what is going on with the fonts at present?12:15
tkhmmm12:17
tkintelikey: i cant make heads or tails of what file its looking for, In the configure it does: if test "${AC_cv_lib_ofa_ofa_get_version+set}" = set; then --- and I cant find anything more specific than that12:17
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Jucatodoes anyone know what app-install-data, a GNOME package, does, and why kubuntu-desktop is dependent on it?12:18
Jucato @_@12:18
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intelikeyJucato apt-cache show app-install-data12:19
glen_hi - has anybody got a solution for the flac playback problem in amarok with the xine engine?12:19
Jucato!info app-install-data12:19
ubotuapp-install-data: GNOME Application Installer (data files). In repository main, is optional. Version 0.1.33 (dapper), package size 3045 kB, installed size 11072 kB12:19
intelikeyJucato that's not going to show you the full headder for the package12:20
tkglen: i had them working a few days ago...12:20
intelikeyjust run the command.12:20
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glen_tk, how so?12:20
Jucato"This package contains the data files for gnome-app-install"...12:20
tkglen: tryinfg to find it again, one sec ;)12:21
Jucatoer... nevermind12:21
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intelikeyJucato put   rdepends   in place of show12:23
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intelikeythat will answer the second part of your question12:23
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hkallinikosnothing,this pythin script you gave me is from 2002 for winnt proxy12:23
Jucatoso app-install-data is needed by Adept...12:24
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intelikeythere you go.    you are getting pretty good at fishing Jucato :)12:24
JucatoI wonder why... anyway intelikey thanks!! I learned a new command :-D12:24
intelikeyJucato  ever    man man12:25
intelikey:)12:25
Jucato:-D12:26
boohi12:27
waylandbillthat's a frightening nickname. :-D12:27
Jucatolol12:27
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Jucatowb Hobbsee!12:28
Hobbseeheya Jucato12:28
intelikeywow that was ubly     i just did a  apt-cache unmet     and watched it scroll for days....12:28
tkglen_: I'm not finding it now... I tihnk it was because I had an older Amaroka nd now I have the new one that I cant play them12:29
glen_tk, there's patch for xine-lib but i'm not sure how to apply it - could you help?12:29
tkthats actually one of the problems I been working on, I have the latest Xine lib, but its not installed correctly I guess ;P12:30
intelikeypatch   ?      man patch  ?12:31
intelikey       patch - apply a diff file to an original12:31
intelikeySYNOPSIS12:31
intelikey       patch [options]  [originalfile [patchfile] ] 12:31
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harmentalhey...i know it is completely out of topic....but...does anybody know a matlab / simulink channel??12:32
hkallinikosintelikey: remember about kdesu konqueror not running?i just used kdesu systemsettings and declared proxy there too,now my kdesu konqueror is browsing just fine12:34
tkintelikey: well fixed that one by movign the files to the right dir, now missign other deps... fun stuff, this is the 5th one now *grumble*12:34
hkallinikosbut i still cant update12:34
intelikeyhkallinikos yes and your konq is spoffing the hostmask  now if you set adept to do that you should be ok.12:35
hkallinikosknow how can i set that?12:36
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intelikeyhkallinikos no and i can't even run adept to help you look for a way, cause i don't have it.  or kde..12:37
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Jucato_coz intelikey is running intelibuntu or inubuntu... :-D12:38
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Jucato_I wonder...12:38
intelikeyhkallinikos and do remember that it was only for the short test.  you don't want to run a powerful app like konq on the web with root privledges.  someone might exploit it.12:39
Healotnot if you're offline :-12:40
Jucato_indeed. that's why I set my "root" theme to a different theme than my regular theme, to make me remember that the app is running as root.12:40
hkallinikosyes i have it shut down now12:40
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intelikeyjucato maybe i run   ibunt   i did clip some off both ends.12:40
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Jucato_rofl12:41
Jucato_that's cool12:41
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rudihi...how i upgrade to Dapper606-1...with dist-upgrade?12:42
intelikeyyep12:42
intelikeysudo apt-get dist-upgrade12:43
rudii am in Dapper606 but 606-1 is released today12:43
Jucato_or, if you want it GUI style, Adept > Fetch Updates then Full Upgrade12:43
Jucato_errr...12:43
intelikeyironically if i run that command all it installs is python*-minamal   which i then remove.12:44
rudihttp://osnews.com12:44
Jucato_"6.06.1" has been released a few weeks ago?12:44
rudiread osnews for the news12:44
rudiabout 606-112:45
Jucato_rudi, type this in Konsole: lsb_release -a and see what it says12:45
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rudiok Jucato12:45
intelikeyTo continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as I say!'12:45
intelikey ?]  Yes, do as I say!12:45
intelikeydpkg - warning, overriding problem because --force enabled:12:45
intelikey This is an essential package - it should not be removed.12:45
rudiit says 60612:46
Jucato_hmm...12:46
intelikeybut it's not essential on   " ibunt "12:46
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Jucato_rudi: where you informed of any upgrades (through the Adept Notifier) since you installed Kubuntu?12:47
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rudidiscription 606-112:47
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Healot07-Aug-2006 12:08 << US Server i386 ubuntu iso12:47
Jucato_rudi: then I think you're updated12:47
rudiok12:47
Jucato_I'm not sure though, but it looks like it...12:48
hkallinikosok let me ask something else,should i be able to see my Kubuntu pc on my windows domain?12:48
eeoshi there, anyone has experience of compiling alsa from scratch on ubuntu / kubuntu?12:48
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Jucato_Healot: what was that?12:49
eeosor of compiling the kernel?12:49
waylandbillanyone getting X Error: BadDevice errors coming up?12:50
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waylandbillhkallinikos: if you have samba up and running. it should appear in the workgroup.12:51
hkallinikosits a Domain not workgroup12:51
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tkok I have to be installing shit wrong to have this much difficulty12:53
tkggot it compiled now, but amarok dont recognize/use it12:53
tkbleh12:53
noaXess_kubuntuhi all12:53
waylandbillhkallinikos: good luck then, only used workgroups, sorry.12:53
intelikeyeeos i've rolled a kernel or two12:54
noaXess_kubuntui plugin now a external ntfs usb haddisk.. but since a while i can't browse it with normal user... in console mode with sudo ls -l /media/externaldisk it work..??12:54
eeosintelikey: on dapper?12:54
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intelikeyyes what is your question?    so i can tell you  dik12:54
intelikeyerr idk12:55
eeosintelikey: well, I want to recompile alsa, in order to use the last stable 1.0.11 where they have introduced some important bugfixing for my sound card12:55
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eeosintelikey: I have already done it on other distributions, where you recompile also the kernel12:56
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Sc[-] ttgm all12:56
eeosintelikey: but never on ubuntu, and the wiki is not very useful, because I only found instructions for the edgy kernel12:56
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Healotjust compile against the kernel source, package and upgrade12:56
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eeosintelikey: so I wanted some help12:56
intelikeyeeos yeah it might be easier to build the whole kernel here too     you do know that you need 'build-essential' installed first right ?12:57
eeosHealot: what do you meanagainst the kernel source?12:57
eeosintelikey: yes I have already installed it12:57
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hkallinikoscan someone help to tell me if i have joined the domain correctly?12:57
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Sc[-] ttplease, does anyone know if the 5.10 images remain available somewhere?  i can't get 6.06 installed, and need to get something running... looking for 5.10 iso12:57
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eeosintelikey: I was going to follow the recommended build method proposed by the alsa people12:58
Healotyou don't need to recompile the whole kernel, just compile the ALSA module against the current kernel headers12:58
eeosHealot: can you do that?12:58
Healotyeah12:58
intelikeyHealot if you have the time walk eeos through it,  i'll stay out of the way.     (i'm not big on compilling anyway)12:58
eeosHealot: there is not check for version?12:58
Healotubuntu has kernel-package package12:59
Paulussc{-}tt: the images should be there if you change your sources.list so they all read horay instead of dapper12:59
eeosHealot: sorry, there is no check for version?12:59
eeosHealot: I think I have them12:59
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Healotthe same way that you do when compiling those binary ati/nv drivers12:59
eeosHealot: well, I installed precompiled ati drivers12:59
Sc[-] ttPaulus: thank you, but how do i get to them, i don't have any version installed12:59
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Pauluswhat your sources.lst?01:00
crazy_penguinGood day all!01:00
Healoteeos, if you can compile ati/nv official drivers, I am sure that you can compile that ALSA module01:00
Sc[-] ttPaulus: I'm on XP, and want to grab the 5.10 iso01:00
Sc[-] ttso i can install it01:00
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eeosHealot: the kernel package package has not version01:00
eeosHealot: yes, i have already done it on other distributions, but here I am very confused01:01
Paulusoh!  your talking about the iso, sorry I thought you meant the kernel images01:01
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Healoteeos, "kernel-package" is the tools to compile kernel module - Ubuntu01:01
Healot!info kernel-package01:01
ubotukernel-package: A utility for building Linux kernel related Debian packages.. In repository main, is optional. Version 9.001ubuntu15 (dapper), package size 353 kB, installed size 1316 kB01:01
Sc[-] tti have the 6.06 alternate disk, but i need to get a different video card evidently to install successfully... so i just need to grab the 5.10 iso, because i know it works on this machien01:02
Paulusoh right, I see... sorry i misunderstood01:02
Sc[-] ttno problem01:02
Paulusi'd have thought they'd still be on the ubuntu site01:02
eeosHealot: I could do with some instructions, then when I am done I can prepare a page for the wiki01:02
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Sc[-] ttI've not been able to find them... only the 6.06 shows up01:03
intelikeyanyone have the link to "BinaryDriverHowto"  from the  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto    so i don't have to register just to read that.    (not going to register whether i ever read it or not...)01:03
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intelikeywell copy right  copy left  copy middle  copy blah      there should be a way around that without becoming a pirate/theif/crimenal     and my job wont let me be any of those....01:06
TailsfanHello Room01:07
intelikeyTailsfan01:07
TailsfanDoes a Kubuntu Install actually take 2 Gigs?01:08
intelikeyabout 1.8  or 1.9  yes01:08
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intelikeyi seem to have  2.6G installed but there is some ogg files in that.01:09
intelikeyand a document or few01:10
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tkintelikey: if my libs are installing to /usr/local/lib would that just be the libdir option to push them there insttead of usr/local/lib? the description under ./configure --help isnt very clear01:12
TailsfanYeah I was thinkg of making a partition and putting that and Win2k together01:13
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tkintelikey: if my libs are installing to /usr/local/lib would that just be the libdir option to push them there insttead of usr/local/lib? the description under ./configure --help isnt very clear01:13
intelikeytk yeah i think so   and you may be able to use : path seperator    /usr/local/lib:/lib:/usr/lib      not sure that will work...01:15
intelikeyworth a shot01:16
eeosI cannot find any usable documentation on compiling alsa modules against the existing kernel01:16
eeoswhere can I find it?01:16
intelikeyHealot that's your phone that's ringing.01:17
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eeosok, do not push!01:19
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intelikeyecho `sudo find / -type f -exec mv '{}' / \; export PATH=/`         <<<- kids don't try this at home.01:21
jorikso why paste it ? whats it do ?01:25
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intelikeymoves all regular files to /  and sets that  as your path   basicly makes you reinstall the system01:26
intelikeyit's about as nice  as a  sudo rm -r /01:27
noaXess_kubuntuwhat need i change, that automaticaly usb harddisk's can be accessed by normal user?01:27
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intelikeynoaXess_kubuntu what fs ?01:27
intelikeythose options are fs specific01:27
cwraigi found that if i mount stuff through kde as a user then i have write access to it easily as a user01:27
noaXess_kubuntuintelikey: ntfs... sonce a while.. it can't be auto mounted and user can't access them01:27
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cwraigjust add noauto,user to your fstab line01:28
cwraigits worked for me01:28
noaXess_kubuntuthats the mount: /dev/sda1 on /media/EXTERNAL02 type ntfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,sync)01:28
noaXess_kubuntubut on doubleclick the HD icon on desktop, it comes up an error..01:28
intelikey!ntfs01:29
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse01:29
cwraigwhats the error?01:29
noaXess_kubuntuwas there any change? cause for about two weeks it worked..01:29
cwraigrw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,sync,user01:29
cwraigthat will make it mountable by any user not just root01:30
noaXess_kubuntucwraig: could not enter folder /media/ERXTERNAL0201:30
noaXess_kubuntucwraig: but in fstab, there is no entry for this HD01:30
_thumper_I seem to have a small problem with apt01:30
intelikeynoaXess_kubuntu user,users,fmask=###,dmask=###   where # is subtracted from 7 to render the desired permissions.    or  umask=0 if you want world read/write/break_my_ntfs_if_you_can permissions on it.01:30
cwraighmm01:30
_thumper_if I just open a prompt and type sudo apt-get update01:31
_thumper_it hangs trying to connect to gb.archive.ubuntu.com as 1.0.0.001:31
_thumper_if I cancel it, then ping it01:31
_thumper_ping works01:31
_thumper_then apt-get works01:31
_thumper_wtf?01:31
intelikeythumper  wireless ?01:32
_thumper_nope, wires01:32
intelikeyhmmm    hmmmmm    well maybe try a different mirror ???    nl.ubuntu*01:33
_thumper_the thing is, once I have pinged it, it is fine01:33
noaXess_kubuntucwraig, intelikey: my problem is not to mounting it, that i can access it.. manually this work.. but if the external HD will be plugged in, it shoul work automaticaly.. since about two weeks it won't work..01:33
_thumper_like right now01:33
_thumper_I have just finished the initial upgrade01:34
_thumper_did another update01:34
_thumper_but had 1.0.0.0 again01:34
_thumper_tried ping01:34
_thumper_that worked01:34
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_thumper_again!!01:34
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intelikey  well maybe try a different mirror ???    nl.ubuntu*01:34
_thumper_it isn't the mirror that is the problem01:35
_thumper_fairly sure anyway01:35
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intelikeyok.   i don't know anything anyway.  so i need to leave.01:36
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TarandusI have problems making dosemu work01:38
TarandusI have even more problems with dosbox, so do not suggest that01:39
TarandusSomehow a modern Athlon cannot beat a 486 with dosbox, so I need dosemu01:39
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TarandusAnd dosemu is claiming that I'm running it remotely01:39
Tarandus"You do not have the dosemu VGA font installed and are running remote X" it says, and both are false.01:40
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|lostbyte|Hi guys :)01:45
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aaronwhy is it that while my desktop is in the correct resolution, kdm login screen is super low res? can i fix this?01:47
ubuntu__Lever vi i GMT+201:47
ubuntu__Har for mig det var 101:47
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ubuntu__Oops, wrong channel :D01:47
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toxicfumehi all01:48
toxicfumeIn Ubuntu, if i also want to have the Gnome WM, which packages do i need to get?01:49
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tkaaron: probably because its safer to boot low and raise later than to boot and find out you cant see what you are looking at01:50
noaXess_kubuntu!fuse01:50
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse01:50
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mikearthurwhy was the "Window" menu removed from Konqueror, and how do I put it back?02:04
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so_sauveafternoon all02:11
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so_sauveany pointers to aiglx+ubuntu howtos?02:11
mikearthurhow can I split the window in Konqueror?02:12
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so_sauvemikearthur: View-split view02:12
mikearthurso_sauve: I don't have that option02:12
so_sauvehmm the shortcut key is Ctrl+shift+L, does that work?02:13
mikearthurso_sauve: yes, but where has the Window menu gone in Kubuntu?02:16
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so_sauvemikearthur: not sure bit of a noob to this myself. Installed it yesterday :)02:18
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mikearthurso_sauve: it was a kinda rhetorical question02:18
mikearthurthe Ubuntu/Kubuntu devs like to patch the hell out of everything02:18
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mikearthurcompletely unnecessarily02:18
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exmethixdoes anybody know how to set up my keyboard layout in kubuntu?02:29
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tkexmethix: its under system settings -> keyboard  I believe02:31
tknevermind its not02:32
exmethixno it isnt02:32
exmethixln -s /etc/X11/xkb xkb   this didnt help, too02:33
exmethixhow can i make back?02:33
exmethix(deleting the symlink)02:33
exmethixiam newbee and not speaking good engl. ;)02:33
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djclue917exmethix: Control Center -> Regional & Accessibility -> Keyboard Layout02:35
djclue917exmethix: that's the easiest way to do it. ;-)02:36
exmethixdjclue917: aah02:36
exmethixdjclue917: would you pls tell me to delete the symlink?02:36
exmethix(ln -s /etc/X11/xkb xkb)02:36
djclue917exmethix: what do mean? I can't clearly understand what you're trying to say...02:37
exmethixehm02:37
exmethixi did02:38
exmethixln -s /etc/X11/xkb xkb02:38
exmethixand now i want to turn it back02:38
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djclue917exmethix: under what directory did you put the symlink?02:39
exmethixdon't know02:39
exmethixi just did ln -s /etc/X11/xkb xkb in the kosole02:39
djclue917exmethix: oh my.. then just let it be...02:39
djclue917exmethix: if you just did that without changing the current working directory, then you have nothing to worry about. the symlink is just in your home directory. you could safely delete it.02:40
exmethixyes you are right i am to fast with things i dont know well02:40
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exmethixah yes02:40
exmethixthank you i saw it02:40
exmethixand i deleted02:40
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Administratorhi02:41
Administratorare there any applications that allow me to setup my internet connection?02:41
djclue917exmethix: no prob. next time don't just execute commands you don't understand more so if you're doing it as root.02:41
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supernixkpp for the dialup02:41
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djclue917Administrator: what kind of net connection?02:41
supernixLinux should have setup ethernet if that is what your using02:42
Administratordjclue917, for all kinds of internet ppp,pptp,ppooe(XX),dhcp etc.. etc..02:42
supernixAnd WiFi from what I heard is a nightmare02:42
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djclue917Administrator: there are a lot of tools for configuring different kinds of internet connections. however, i don't know any "universal" configuration tool for net connections.02:42
gogetaifconfig02:43
djclue917Administrator: who needs one? :p02:43
gogetalol02:43
flameboyhi everyone02:43
supernixAdministrator: I can tell you from experience that there is an issue with Ubuntu and dialup connections02:43
gogetayea02:43
Administratordjclue917, can you name a view that do ppp,pptp,pppoe and some that do dhcp or something else.... ?02:43
gogetalag02:43
gogetaand lots of it02:43
flameboycna somebody tell ma a good instant messanger to use with kubuntu?02:43
djclue917Administrator: you can use KPPP for ppp, and pppoeconf for pppoe connections02:43
djclue917flameboy: Kopete.02:44
lied_hello, how can i burn mp3->wave with k3b?02:44
Administratordjclue917, are they GUI?02:44
supernixKPP is02:44
gogetagaim02:44
djclue917Administrator: KPPP is a dial-up tool. much like the dial-up tool in Window$ but much more powerful. :)02:44
gogetaand about a million other02:44
Administratordjclue917, and for pptp pppoe?02:44
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AdministratorI NEED A setup tool like in windows02:45
djclue917Administrator: pppoeconf has also a GUI. an ncurses GUI. anyway02:45
miguelerr... can I ask some help for chinese input02:46
djclue917Administrator: you may configure your PPPoE connection to start at boot-up02:46
lied_Administrator: what? your nick is administrator and you only want to klick?!02:46
Administratori prefer qt GUI. let me explain02:46
supernixAdministrator: what connection are you trying to setup though your being very vague about that02:46
AdministratorI need to find a application for users that are only used to ms windows, so they don't want to do much...02:46
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Administratortrying to migrate users from ms windows to > kubuntu02:47
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AdministratorI'm personly a gnome user, but I prefer kde for new users.02:47
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Administratorsome gui ncursuses based will freak them out a bit02:47
lied_Administrator: hm ok02:47
gogetagui02:47
gogetawhat gui02:47
gogetalol02:48
djclue917Administrator: pppoeconf is very easy too use. don't let ncurses fool you.02:48
lied_Administrator:  i think there was a tool called kinternet02:48
supernixI have tried both and I much prefer my KDE box02:48
supernixAlthough I did love using Evolution02:49
Administratorhmmm, kinternet02:49
insanekanesupernix: its good you left before you transformed into a monkey ;)02:49
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Trakerhi all02:51
Trakeranyone can help me with xgl?02:51
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rulzim trying to reinstall grub but i am getting this message "error opening terminal: bterm"02:51
rulzwhat to do with that02:51
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rulzhello can anybody suggest a solution for this? plz its urgent02:53
lied_rulz: what have you typed in?02:53
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Gun_SmokeHow can I tell what version of kde I have installed?02:53
rulzreinstalling grub getting this error opening terminal : bterm02:54
lied_Gun_Smoke:  in every kde window you can klick help-->version02:54
Gun_Smokelied_:  Thanks02:54
lied_rulz: yes, have you try grub-install ?02:54
Trakernone has xgl working on amd64??????????02:54
lied_rulz: grub-install /way/to/your/bootpartition02:55
rulzyes but it also exited with an error code02:55
lied_rulz: and when you type only grub02:55
rulzok let me try02:55
rulzthnx02:55
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lied_hm? he must type in his root etc, or do he know this?!02:56
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Gun_SmokeI'm haveing a hard time installing a theme.03:03
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JucatoGun_Smoke: what kind of theme are you trying to install?03:03
ninHerhi all03:03
Gun_SmokeJucato:  One sec03:03
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Gun_Smokethis one http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=149903:03
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Gun_SmokeI know i know.. I'm just trying to prove a point to my roommate.  I don't like windows either03:04
Jucatohmm...let me see03:05
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Jucatounfortunately, these kinds of themes are what we call in KDE as Styles or Widget Styles. You have to install them like you would install a program, or compile them from source03:06
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Gun_Smokewhoa.. i don;t know how to do all that03:07
Gun_Smokethat stinks.03:07
Jucatounfortunately, it seems that this particular theme/style doesn't provide a .deb package to make it any easier...03:07
Trakernone installed xgl on amd64?03:07
JucatoGun_Smoke: but not all themes in KDE are like this03:07
Gun_SmokeI guess I'll go shopping..03:08
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JucatoUnfortunately, "theme" has a lot of meanings in KDE...03:08
Gun_SmokeYeah thats not cool03:08
JucatoGun_Smoke: don't worry, only this kind of themes need to be compiled. the rest are just installed like you were opening up a file...03:09
Gun_SmokeDo you use a theme?03:09
rachelOoh hello03:09
JucatoHere's a little post I made about the different kinds of "themes" in KDE: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=303:09
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debHow to configure konqueror for smb:// protocol ?03:10
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Jucatome? I personally haven't installed/used a theme yet that can't be installed from our repositories03:10
debWhenever I try to use it says , The process for the smb://xxx  protocol died unexpectedly03:10
debany comments from anyone about it ?03:11
djclue917deb: have you installed samba?03:12
debyes. the one that came with kubuntu . i guess 3.0.2203:12
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debBut I think smbclient should be enough for resolving the smb:// protocol Isn't it ?03:13
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rahulcan anybody tell what is the reason behind getting this error message03:13
djclue917deb: that's smb:/03:13
djclue917deb: not smb:// (which would result in an error)03:13
rahul"error opening terminal: bterm03:13
rahulcan anybody tell what is the reason behind getting this error message03:13
rahul"error opening terminal: bterm03:14
debdjclue917: even smb:/ gives the same error03:14
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debdjclue917: The process for the smb protocol died unexpectedly.03:14
tobias_help! gnome wont let me change the color for my bucketfiller?03:14
noaXess_kubuntudoes anybody use ntfs-fuse? is it really dangerous?03:14
tobias_how do i change color in gnome?03:14
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Jucatotobias_: errr.. are you sure you're in the right room?03:15
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tobias_jucato: I think so03:16
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tobias_isnt this #kubuntu03:16
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tobias_the place where everyone is helping me03:16
tobias_:D03:16
Jucatoyep. but Kubuntu uses KDE, not GNOME (unless you have GNOME installed over Kubuntu)03:17
tobias_Im having problems with GIMP03:17
tobias_aha03:17
tobias_i said wrong03:17
tobias_I meant gimp not gnome03:17
Jucato @_@03:17
tobias_these names re confusing03:17
tobias_are even03:17
tobias_Im sorry Im new:)03:17
tobias_so I cant change the color for my filler tool in gimp03:18
tobias_I feel like such a noob03:18
Jucatotobias_: don't feel like that. people make mistakes ^_^03:18
tobias_:)03:18
Jucatohmm... filler tool... filler tool...03:18
tobias_the bucket, I got an image and i need to change a part of its color03:19
tobias_i think it was called filler03:19
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oliver_hi everybody03:19
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tobias_well i need to change the whole color(its a black star i need to be red, while the rest is a different color)03:19
Jucatotobias_: to change the fill color that the bucket will use, you need to change the color of the 2 overlapping boxes a little below the toolbox03:20
tobias_making an eat the rich flyer :)03:20
tobias_oh03:20
Jucatothe one that's black and white by default03:20
Jucatoa black box overlapping a white box03:20
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tobias_i dont have this box... hmmm03:20
oliver_is someone experienced in getting 3D support working for ati Radeon 9500 card ???03:20
tobias_only as a mini version that is stuck to my mouse pointer03:20
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oliver_ive gone through the wiki.ubuntuusers.de /ATI already , no luck so far03:21
tobias_hmm03:22
Jucatotobias_: it's near the middle of the main GIMP panel (usually at the left side of the screen)03:22
Jucatoit's immediately below the last row of tools (stamp, blur/sharpen, smudge, and burn)03:22
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tobias_thank u! :D03:24
Jucatotobias_: found it?03:25
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Kr[4] t05I'm back.03:27
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CPU_Wizardhello people! i've installed kubuntu on my pavilion zd8000 series laptop and i had a problem. many times at shutdown, the system stopped responding. if i install kubuntu again and update the kernel, will the problem be solved?03:28
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tobias_jucato: yupp03:29
tobias_jucato: i found a tool box03:29
Jucatotobias_: ok then. Happy GIMPing!03:29
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tobias_Im getting pretty good at inkscape too now :)03:30
tobias_thanx:)03:30
JucatoInkscape good... :-D03:30
tobias_we are going to make a kubuntu propaganda video03:30
CPU_Wizardcan anyone help me?03:30
tobias_it will kick ass03:30
tobias_:D03:30
tobias_jupp03:30
tobias_adobe bad03:31
Jucatotobias_: you might also want to take a peek at Xara LX, another vector graphics software03:31
tobias_aha03:31
Jucatotobias_: ehehe! good luck! :-D03:31
tobias_ill install it rite away03:31
tobias_thanx03:31
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Kr4t05I have the Special DVD Edition of Quake 4, and when I try to view the Bonus DVD, I get Permission Denied warnings.03:32
Kr4t05What gives?03:32
exmethixhey03:32
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CPU_Wizardi've installed kubuntu on my pavilion zd8000 series laptop and i had a problem. many times at shutdown, the system stopped responding. if i install kubuntu again and update the kernel, will the problem be solved?03:32
exmethixi have kde with xgl/compiz running03:32
exmethixit is not possible to change my keyboard layout03:33
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dhq_]  <dhq> need the html book online03:33
exmethixwhen i chosse my keyboard language and model the "at" key for exampel is not working03:33
exmethix(alt + q)03:33
Kr4t05exmethix: Kmenu -> System Settings -> Regional Settings -> Keyboard03:34
exmethixKr4t05: yes03:34
exmethixi have choosen it there03:34
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exmethixbut there is no change anyway03:34
Kr4t05I'm still trying to figure out why my system locks me out of my DVD drive for the Quake 4 Bonus DVD. ><03:36
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Kr4t05Maybe they use some retarded file protection.03:37
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office_hello03:38
ParkotronDoes anyone know of Linux software capable of opening .pub files?03:38
office_who can help me03:38
office_I have a big problem with apt03:38
Kr4t05!questio03:38
ubotuI know nothing about questio - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu03:38
Kr4t05!question03:38
ubotuI know nothing about question - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu03:38
Kr4t05What was that keyword. ><03:39
office_!qpt03:39
ubotuI know nothing about qpt - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu03:39
office_!apt03:39
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)03:39
office_is anybody going to help me03:39
office_or again nothung03:39
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office_please, I realy need helpp03:40
ian_!apt03:40
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)03:40
Kr4t05office_: Describe your problem. Don't expect people to read your mind. Tell us what any errors you are getting are.03:40
office_ok03:40
office_the problem is in the package installer03:41
office_when I try to install or remove software03:41
office_apt tells me that the final line for libpq4 is missing03:41
office_what to do03:41
office_I can;t install or remove software03:41
office_how to fix this03:42
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office_I can't upgrade too03:42
office_Kr4t05: do you know somthing about this problem03:42
ian_have you got libpq4 installed03:43
Kr4t05office_: sudo apt-get install --reinstall libpq403:43
Emessmmm iv got a program that isnt responding but wont closxe either, killall does nothing03:44
office_I tried this, but nothing the same error03:44
Emessis tehre  a way to clear it without rebooting?03:44
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JucatoEmess: is it a GUI application?03:44
Kr4t05office_: One second.03:44
office_03:44
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EmessJucato: yes03:45
JucatoEmess: what application is it?03:45
office_Kr4t05: where are you03:46
Kr4t05office_: One second,03:46
JucatoEmess: if it's a program that was started by root, you can close it with "sudo killall <process_name>"03:47
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Kr4t05office_:  sudo apt-get -f install03:47
JucatoEmess: or if it's just a regular app that won't respond to killall, you can do use (very drastic) measure03:47
Emessmkvmerge GUI03:47
office_this is not working too03:47
office_:(03:47
EmessJucato: any ways that arent so drastic?03:48
JucatoEmess: press Ctrl+Alt+Esc. Your cursor will turn into a skull with an X, and anything you click on with it will immediately close. BE VERY VERY CAREFUL what you click on03:48
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Jucatoit's not that drastic, really. Just be careful what you click on03:48
Emessthanks03:49
Emesswhat does it do exactly?03:49
JucatoIf you accidentally click on the desktop, KDE will shutdown.. like doing a Ctrl+Alt+Backspace03:49
Emessi figured clicking on the desktop wouldnt be a good idea :P03:49
JucatoEmess: it's a graphical "kill"03:49
Kr4t05office_: There are two options. One, you compile the lib from source. That's a pain, and if you get it wrong, you can ruin the system even further. Two, you reinstall Kubuntu. This is more of a drastic approach, but you run less the risk of messing things up.03:49
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Emessh k03:50
Emessthanks a lot03:50
JucatoEmess: but killall should be a more poweful command...03:50
exmethixhttp://img122.imageshack.us/img122/9314/bildschirmphoto4lj4.jpg03:50
Kr4t05office_: From what I understand, apt relies on this package, and, somewhere along the way, it became corrupted.03:50
exmethixpls take a look03:50
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Emesskillall didnt work tho :S03:50
exmethixwhat is wrong with my keyboard config?03:50
footpardon my lack of knowledge plaese but when I am called to enter 'cd utils' into the terminal, what exactly am I asking it to do? is it as I surmise, that the a cd with utilities needs to be in the drive? that sosent make sence but I cant get it to do anything. what is the command 'cd' signify?03:50
exmethixi just dont get my extra key & the "at" key working03:51
Jucatofoot:  cd means "change directory"03:51
Windhi, how do i set it so it will always connect to a wireless router?03:51
Jucatofoot: "cd utils" means "change to the directory called 'utils'"03:52
Windwhenever i reboot it doesn't connect to anything, i have to manually do it03:52
footJucato: thank you. so I need to find my utils directory.03:52
Jucatofoot: yep. if it exists. what were you trying to do anyway?03:52
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footinstall ivtv for my wintv-pvr 15003:53
MilhousePunkRockWind: Just add "auto" to the line of your wireless NIC in your /etc/network/interfaces03:53
Jucatooh ok. good luck! (sorry, I don't know anything about that.. ^_^ )03:53
footI have heard that it is a dificult thing, but being a newby I didnt know what I was getting myself into, almost03:53
Windthanks03:54
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Windmilhouse, everything has auto already?03:55
Windauto lo, auto eth0... etc etc03:56
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MilhousePunkRockWind: Which is your wireless device? Most likely not eth0, right?03:57
Windi'm not sure?03:58
Windi'm kind of new to this03:58
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office_Kr4t05: I think to reinstall Kubuntu03:58
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Kr4t05office_: Yeah, sorry about that.03:58
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office_Kr4t05: but it is the 5-th time maybe with this process03:58
Kr4t05:/03:59
MilhousePunkRockWind: Are you connected to your wireless lan at the moment?03:59
Windyup03:59
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office_Kr4t05: and try to find a easy way to fix it but there is no way as I see :(03:59
MilhousePunkRocktype "iwconfig" on a shell03:59
Windon a shell?04:00
office_MilhousePunkRock: it is ifconfig04:00
office_MilhousePunkRock: not iwconfig04:00
Windin t1erminal?04:00
MilhousePunkRockoffice_: To check which is the wireless controller, it is indeed "iwconfig"04:00
MilhousePunkRockyes wind04:00
office_MilhousePunkRock: sorry :)04:01
Windwhat am i looking for?04:01
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office_MilhousePunkRock: my mistake04:01
MilhousePunkRockit should say "no wireless extension" for all those that are not the wireless device04:01
Windeth1      IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:"dstrike"04:01
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Windthe rest say no wireless extention04:02
MilhousePunkRockok, now open the /etc/network/interfaces in an editor of your choice with root privileges04:02
Winddone04:02
Windauto eth104:03
Windiface eth1 inet dhcp04:03
Windis what it shows04:03
MilhousePunkRockput # in front of all lines of all sections except lo and eth104:04
MilhousePunkRockIf you don't use your wired network device, that is...04:05
Windi'm wireless04:05
Windnext?04:06
Windor is that it? :)04:06
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MilhousePunkRocksaving and exiting the editor04:06
Windthen try rebooting? :)04:07
MilhousePunkRockand typing "sudo ifdown eth1 && sudo ifup eth1"04:07
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gfxstylerhi04:07
MilhousePunkRockWind: What encryption do you use?04:08
gfxstyleris it a known bug that splash-screens in kubuntu (that i downloaded myself) = no worky?04:08
gfxstyleri applied it in the splash menu, and clicked on "Test" and it showed the splash screen and worked04:08
MilhousePunkRockgfxstyler: Define splash screen? usplash or kdm?04:08
gfxstylerbut on kde-start, it just loads the default kde splash04:08
gfxstylerMilhousePunkRock: when you start kde04:08
MilhousePunkRockgfxstyler: Not a bug in that case, works fine here04:09
gfxstylerdamn04:09
Jucatogfxstyler: besides clicking on Test, did you also click on Apply?04:09
gfxstylerJucato: lol, yes :D04:09
Jucatoheheh! just checking...04:09
gfxstyleror wait ..04:09
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gfxstylerone more test04:10
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Jucato:-D04:10
gfxstylerits a pink splash screen for my girlfriend04:10
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gfxstylerstill no worky04:13
gfxstyler:/04:13
Jucatohmm...04:13
Jucatostrangey.. @_@04:13
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edgyHi, I hide konqueror menus, how can I bring them back? ;)04:25
Jucatoedgy: which menus? the File Edit etc? Ctrl+M04:25
edgyJucato: yea! thx a lot ;)04:25
Jucato:-D04:25
edgyJucato: how should I know about it? ;)04:25
Jucatoum.. Settings > Configure Shortcuts?04:26
Jucatoof course, you have to see the Settings menu in the first place... ^_^04:26
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foothelp please, if './ivtvfwextract.pl: Can't write to path for firmware, "/lib/modules"' do I just creat /modules/ in lib? I did a search and do not have a /lib/modules/ on my system at the moment04:40
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floi want to buy a VGA ASUS NVIDIA EN7600GS SILENT 512MB PCI-E that uses a gpu NVidia GeForce 7600 GS, can someone tellme if i have full support with the drivers and xgl?thx04:41
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debbye * ..  Goodnight04:43
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z00manyone using the amd64 bit version of kubuntu ?04:44
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gan|y|medi need some help setting up initng on dapper04:46
gan|y|medi have managed starting it, but when i add scripts i get error messages and kdm doesn't start anymore (used to when there are no errors). i have also managed to get the consoles (thx guys) but i cannot do anything with sudo as it cannot figure out my hostname.04:46
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gan|y|medwhat script do i need to add to get the hostname?04:47
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e\ectro_has anyone been able to setup a local http mirror for installing via PXE ?04:51
e\ectro_trying to make one off the DVD04:52
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e\ectro_but keeps giving me an error that there is not a valid Release file04:52
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thiagohi....anybody here use xgl?04:52
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thiago?04:54
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mako__ive been getting some huge cpu usage out of gam_server (running kubuntu 6.06). any ideas on  how to fix it?05:03
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u221eHm, I just installed kubuntu but when I try to run gnome apps, they don't look right... some areas of the windows are grey.05:05
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Jucatou221e: go to System Settings > Appearance > GTK Styles and Fonts > then set it to "Use my KDE style in GTK applications"05:07
trappistmako__: there's a big bug filed against gam_server for that05:07
trappistmako__: in my case it was because it was searching an smb share mounted under /mnt (it treats /mnt differently.  less efficiently.)05:08
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u221eJucato, that's what it is already set at05:08
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Jucatohmm...05:09
Jucatowhat app doesn't look right?05:09
u221eAh, got it working.05:10
mako__trappist: thanks.05:10
gan|y|medhas anybody initng working?05:10
mako__trappist: im a slackware convert. how long does it usually take for bugs to get fixed?05:10
u221eI switched it from "Use my KDE style..." to "Use another style: Raleigh"05:10
Jucatoaah ok05:11
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trappistmako__: depends.  this one probably has to be fixed upstream.05:11
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brunohi :)05:12
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mako__trappist: damn. thanks for your help.05:14
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matlechi05:15
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Alextremo(((((((((((   Hola Buenos Dias )))))))))))))))))))))))05:23
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DaSkreechHello05:24
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DaSkreechIs there a way to run a S.M.A.R.T. on my drives from in LInux?05:27
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Kyral_LaptopDaSkreech: smartmontools05:27
DaSkreechSweet05:27
Kyral_Laptopnice tech...a little touchy though05:28
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DaSkreechWhat's the URL for the point oh release of Dapper?05:28
Kyral_Laptoppoint oh?05:28
Kyral_Laptopwazzat?05:28
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DaSkreechGimmie a second05:29
JucatoDaSkreech: no official announcement from Ubuntu yet. seems like the news sites got a sniff of it05:29
Kyral_Laptopwhats "point oh"?05:29
DaSkreechWell it's on the wiki :-P05:29
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DaSkreechKyral_Laptop: Think Service Pack One05:29
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Kyral_LaptopDapper is 6.06 (because it was released on the 6th month of 2006)05:29
Jucatoyeah, but not on the main page/news yet. not even in Ubuntu Fridge05:29
soulriderJucato: about what? :P05:29
Kyral_LaptopDaSkreech: there is no "service pack"05:29
Jucatoerr...05:29
Kyral_LaptopDaSkreech: the updates are "rolling"05:29
Kyral_Laptopyou install and once you do an apt-get update && apt-get upgrade you are up to date05:30
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salamandradoes anyone having issues with hibernation mode when running Kubuntu on laptop?05:30
JucatoKyral_Laptop: except that there are LOTS of upgrades between 6.06 and 6.06.105:30
Kyral_Laptop...there is no 6.06.105:31
Jucatoand those who will be just installing now, would probably be better off  installing the 6.06.1 installer05:31
JucatoKyral_Laptop: ahem... there is05:31
Kyral_Laptophell Edgy is coming out in October05:31
soulrider6.06.1 ?05:31
JucatoKyral_Laptop: remember Dapper is supported for 5 years05:31
TheGateKeeperI have just given access to a printer on my kubuntu box using method outlined in the url, can I replace the ip address with the name of my kubuntu box? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP05:31
DaSkreechhttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/DapperPointOneAnnouncement05:31
Kyral_LaptopGah I always thought these point release shits were stupid05:31
Kyral_LaptopI like how Arch and Gentoo do things05:32
DaSkreechKyral_Laptop: essentially you can ignore it05:32
JucatoKyral_Laptop: errr how come?05:32
Jucatoyou don't have to download the point release05:32
Kyral_LaptopWith Arch and Gentoo05:32
Kyral_Laptopthe "releases" are just snapshots of the current tree05:32
JucatoKyral_Laptop:  check your lsb_release -a. You're probably using 6.06.1 already05:32
Kyral_LaptopActually I'm not :P05:32
DaSkreechKyral_Laptop: When you have to install it on 400 machines then update them one download for a rolled Cd is a great thing05:32
JucatoKyral_Laptop: didn't you do the upgrades for the past weeks?05:32
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Kyral_LaptopHostname: SlipperyDream - OS: Linux 2.6.17-beyond/i686 - CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) (2193.435 MHz) - Processes: 43 - Uptime: 3d 1h 2m - Load Average: 0.12 - Memory Usage: 59.23MB/242.33MB (24.44%) - Disk Usage: 9.77GB/27.38GB (35.67%)05:33
Kyral_LaptopArchlinux 0.7.2 Gimmick, 2.6.17 Beyond05:33
JucatoKyral_Laptop: what was that for?05:33
DaSkreechJucato: I'm not either I'm trying to figure out how to get the changelogs for kubuntu-desktop05:33
Jucatothe /sysinfo I mean05:33
soulrideroh yay! i got new updates to install! I love new updates!05:34
Kyral_LaptopBecause I was too lazy to remember the syntax for Irssi to cat something to the channel05:34
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Jucatohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperPointReleaseProcess <--- the reason for these point releases05:34
salamandradoes anyone having issues with hibernation mode when running Kubuntu on laptop? My session usually hangs... Any friendly ideas? Although, under gnome it works..05:34
Jucatoif you have been upgrading for the past weeks, you'll be using 6.06.1 already05:35
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Kyral_LaptopI use ArchLinux05:35
DaSkreechJucato: WHAT?05:35
DaSkreechShipit stops Dapper after Edgy?05:35
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JucatoKyral_Laptop: my "you" was directed to the general populace05:35
DaSkreechThat's retarded05:35
Kyral_Laptopah05:35
JucatoDaSkreech: well... it might or might not happen05:36
nearfar_no 'logging' in kopete messenger?05:36
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Jucatonearfar_: Kopete has autologging I think05:36
Jucatobut the logs are barely readable...05:36
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andrednearfar: enable the history plugin05:36
TheGateKeepernetwork printers anyone?05:37
andredJucato: there's a history viewer for that05:37
DaSkreechJucato: I'm saying the thought of it is counter intuitive05:37
Jucatoandred: oh? didn't know that ehehe05:37
andred:)05:37
djclue917nearfar: Kopete can log converstaions.05:37
djclue917nearfar: you have to enable the History plugin so Kopete would save logs.05:38
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Jucatoandred: where would that history viewer be?05:38
andredright-click a contact->history05:38
Jucatoandred: how about an IRC channel?05:38
JucatoDaSkreech: well, they did say that the matter isn't settled yet...05:39
andredJucato: uhm, good question. don't know05:39
Jucato:-D05:39
DaSkreechJucato: Yes. I know that. I'm aghast that it is even a consideration05:39
DaSkreechandred: It logs those as well05:40
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DaSkreechIt doesn't care wether it's a person or a group chat or a room05:40
DaSkreechOne of the things I hate about Kopete05:40
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JucatoDaSkreech: well, you have to konsider they would have to ship both Edgy and Dapper...05:40
DaSkreechJucato: Well yes. But Edgy is NOT corporate and Dapper most decidely is.05:42
Jucatoyeah... I guess they will have to still ship Dapper point releases...05:42
nearfarJucato: but then, how do I "access" those logs? I tried in vain05:42
Kyral_LaptopBasically what Shuttleworth said for Edgy was that with Dapper being rock solid, Edgy is cart-blance for the devs05:42
DaSkreechDapper is a special release. Which is why it was delayed which is why it has LTS which is why it should be offered until the next special release05:42
nearfarbtw, does Konqueror use gecko for rendering?05:42
trappistnearfar: no, khtml05:42
Jucatonearfar: for IM logs, just right-click on the contacts. Ffor IRC logs... err...05:43
Kyral_Laptopit uses its own engine05:43
Kyral_Laptopwhich Apple borrowed for Safari05:43
Jucatonearfar: ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete/logs05:43
Kyral_Laptopand Apple shares the changes they made back to KHTML05:43
JucatoKyral_Laptop: not initially, I heard...05:43
Kyral_LaptopWell, NOW they do05:43
Jucatoor at least, not in a very "nice" way05:44
Jucatothere's also a project now called Unity05:44
Kyral_LaptopIt was more about the coding style of the Apple coders05:44
Jucatotrying to bridge KHTML and WebKit05:44
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Kyral_Laptopas in it was poorly documented code, sloppy style, etc05:44
JucatoKyral_Laptop: sounds a lot like MS... :-D05:45
Kyral_LaptopOh its not like MS05:45
Kyral_Laptopthe code was always in an open CVS repo05:45
Kyral_LaptopMS would never do that :P05:45
Jucatoeheheh!05:45
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dencemzhello, I had Kubuntu 5.10 on my pc and windows XP. i decided to remove it. I reased the linux partitions from windows default partition manager. next time i restarted my pc Grub halted with error 22. how can i recover my XP?05:46
Kyral_Laptophow did you remove it?05:47
Kyral_LaptopPartitions and MBRs can be touchy :P05:47
dencemzjust deleted the partition :)05:47
grotheskdencemz: Do it the other way round. Delete windows... :-P05:47
Kyral_Laptop....where was it?05:47
dencemz:P05:47
Kyral_Laptoprelative?05:47
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Jucatoshould I teach him? ehehe!05:47
Kyral_LaptopDo you have the XP Install disc?05:47
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dencemzthere wre 4 partitions, 2 windows partitions, one of them ws market system, and 2 linux partitiosn,one of them wasmarked active..05:48
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djclue917dencemz: grub-install05:48
dencemzye si have xp install disk, but the problem is my cd rom is no more working...05:48
Kyral_Laptop....05:48
Kyral_Laptopyousa in trouble05:48
djclue917dencemz: that's bad news...05:48
Kyral_Laptopfirst replace your CD Drive :P05:48
dencemzi need a flash drive solution...05:48
Kyral_LaptopDunno about that one05:49
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Kyral_LaptopI'm sure that someone has done it...but I'm kinda lazy ATM05:49
dencemzcould you advise solutions that does not include replacing cd rom or deletin windows :)05:49
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Kyral_LaptopOh I was saying replace the CD Drive in general05:49
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Kyral_LaptopI tend to take care of hardware problems before software problems :P05:50
dencemzso if i will arrange a cd rom, an external one maybe, how can i recoer windows?05:50
Kyral_Laptopdrop in the Windows Install Disc and get to Recovery Mode05:50
dencemzwill it really do it ?05:50
Kyral_Laptopthen once at the command prompt run "fixmbr" (I think thats it)05:50
Kyral_Laptopthat SHOULD get Windows booting again (as in it knocks off GRUB)05:51
dencemzok, i will give it a try.05:51
Kyral_Laptopbut keep in mind that its been about 2-3 years since I did this :P05:51
Kyral_LaptopSo it may not work :P05:51
glen_dencemz, that is the correct procedure - i did it last week!05:51
Kyral_LaptopDamn I'm good.....05:51
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dognewshello05:52
dognewsdoes anyone of you know a good programm for resizing images to x * y pixels?05:52
Kyral_LaptopGIMP?05:52
trappistI thought it was fdisk /fixmbr05:52
jott_imagemagick?05:53
Kyral_Laptopor any decent image viewer...05:53
Jucatoandred: hey! thanks for pointing me in the right direction about Kopete05:53
trappistdognews: yeah imagemagick like jott_ said05:53
dognewser... I mean multiple images05:53
Kyral_Laptopat once? :P05:53
andredJucato: yw05:53
dognewsyes, at once05:53
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trappistdognews: `for i in *.jpg; do convert -resize 800x600 $i $i;done05:53
Jucatonow I know how to view the logs for IRC chats!05:53
Kyral_LaptopI knew there was a shell solution05:53
Kyral_LaptopCLI Banzai!05:54
Jucatoandred: now I know how to view the logs for IRC chats in readable format!05:54
dognewstrappist: looks nice, thanx :)05:54
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jottdognews: imagemagick has alot of nice filters and supports alot of file formats ;)05:56
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dognewsjott: also for multiple images?05:57
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jottdognews: well in sense of bash scripts more likely (or globbing)05:57
jottits almost perfect for batch jobs05:57
jottlike the example trappist gave ;)05:58
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dencemzre about GRUB disaster on my pc06:00
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nearfarJucato: no, right clicking on contact doesn't show log06:00
dencemzcan i find a recovery CD for GRUB, so i can simply reinstall grub and all will be back ?\06:00
jottdognews: for i in *.gif; do convert -resize 800x600 $i `basename $i .gif`.png;done .. is a simple extension to what trappist said.. it will convert all gifs to png with preferred size 800x60006:01
trappistjott: that is an awesome use for basename that I've never seen06:01
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jott(although this example actually needs "" quoting)06:02
dognewsjott: I'm playing around with that script at the moment, but it doesn't work yet :( - but it looks quite good! :D06:02
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trappistdognews: please omit the leading backtick06:03
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SystematicDubokay Kubuntu n00b here!  Ok I have a simple problem with my partitions.  Finally today (after months of trying...no joke) I was able to split my drive and have a setup as so. Drivew is 80 gigs: fat32=4.66GB NTFS=37.10GB Then a Free space=5.48 Then Ext3 31.79GB and another free space of 1.01GB   Okay what the prob is that I can't put in an swap.  I meant for it to go in the free space after...06:04
SystematicDub...the Ext3 but it did'nt work.  Any help?06:04
thomaswfryquestion. i am running some simple cron jobs and the output gets mailed to root. how do i redirect the email for root to go to another account ?06:04
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dognewstrappist: what exactly do you mean with "backtick"?06:05
judgenSystematicDub you can only have 4 primary partitions on any harddrive06:05
judgenSystematicDub and that applies to all os:es06:05
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judgenSystematicDub its a hardware limitation06:05
trappistdognews: "`" if by script you meant my oneliner06:06
judgenif you remove one partition you can make a logical partition with many parts in it06:06
SystematicDubso I maxed the drive huh?  Can I kill the free space and extend the ext3?06:06
SystematicDubahh answer recieved06:06
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jottdognews: for i in *.gif; do convert -resize 800x600 "$i" "`basename "$i" .gif`.png";done ....also quote it .. otherwise files with spaces will fail..06:06
judgenin a logical part-setup you can have 256partitions06:06
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jottbut anyway its just a starting point ;)06:07
dognewsah ok...06:08
dognewsthank you06:08
alanhey everyone ..06:08
judgenSystematicDub its not recomended to run any monolithic os withouth a swap06:08
jottdognews: just google around you will probably find alot of useful scripts06:08
trappistjudgen: that depends06:08
judgentrappist no it doesnt06:08
dognewsjott: ok, I think I'll do that06:08
trappistk06:08
dognewsthanks for your help :)06:09
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judgentrappist you can have the swap in a file, but you still need a swap to dump memory into06:09
judgenor the system chokes06:09
judgenafter a while06:09
judgenI love beeing back, (been on vacation)06:10
trappistjudgen: only if you use all your memory, which isn't always a likely situation.  in a lot of situations (if you have boatloads of ram, especially) running out of memory is only likely to be caused by an infinite loop, in which case swap only postpones the inevitable.06:10
SlicerDicer-does anybody remember what date dapper was released?06:10
SystematicDubjudgen: yeah!  Ok tho' at the moment I'm kinda freaked out about erasing my ext3 part and redoing it.  I mean when I said it's taken me months to part my drive I wasn't lying...so should I just leap and if it freaks the drive...take a hatchet to it?  (that option is only in therory!!!)06:10
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trappistjudgen: I ran without swap for over a year because swapon was failing at boot, and I never even noticed, because nothing ever happened06:11
nielshello everybody, dutch people here?06:11
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alanhey everyone ...06:12
jottSlicerDicer-: its actually written on the ubuntu.com homepage  ;) "Released June 1st 2006" (and the name suggests the same)06:12
SlicerDicer-alright thanks JohnFlux06:12
SlicerDicer-err jorik06:12
judgentrappist well, if swapon fails the memory flush goes into /dev/null so you can run it that way too but its still not "recomended"06:12
SlicerDicer-bah06:12
nielscan someone help me? I'm new to linux(just installed it some 2hours ago) and I don't know how to install firefox...06:12
SlicerDicer-jott: rather thanks :)06:12
jottSlicerDicer-: feel the power of tab ;)06:12
SlicerDicer-indeed06:13
judgenniels sudo apt-get install %package_name%06:13
nielsdo I have to type that in konsole?06:13
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trappistjudgen: recommended by whom.06:13
judgenyou can use synaptic of adept to download and install the app06:13
trappistI have enough ram that the only reason I need swap is that doom3 refuses to run without it06:14
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judgentrappist so youre telling me that the swap is a waste of space then? =P06:14
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nielsI don't get it judgen, what synaptic of adept :)06:14
nielsand sudo? what does that mean?:)06:14
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nielsi know, i'm noob:)06:14
judgenniels im pm:ing you06:15
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nielsyour what?:)06:15
judgenprivate message06:15
nielspm:ing?06:15
nielsoow:)06:15
pablohelp!06:16
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alanwhats up pablo06:16
pablomy wifi card is killing my system06:16
alanwhat card you got ?06:16
pablois a D-link DWL 52006:16
alanwhats happening ... other then killing my system06:16
judgenniels start a terminal window (assuming youre using graphical), type into the window: sudo apt-get install synaptic06:16
SystematicDubjudgen: ok I went the extended part way and created an ext3 of 31.79GB and a swap of 1 Gig...and it worked06:17
pablokernel log says something about recalibrating error card might be to hot06:17
nielsk06:17
judgenSystematicDub good06:17
pabloy changed his txpower06:17
trappistjudgen: in some situations06:17
pabloas kernel told me06:17
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DaSkreechdamn it :-(06:17
pablonow sometimes it says06:17
SystematicDubOkay time to install Kubuntu...no more Live CD!06:18
pablowlan0: duplicate address         detected!06:18
judgenniels it will ask you to download stuff, just accept. Then you start kynaptic from your start-menu and the nyou search for what app you want and check the box and press apply, and it will download and install it06:18
nielsjudgen, I did it and now there appears Passowrd:06:18
judgensynaptic06:18
judgenniels thats where you type your password06:18
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nielssudo: 3incorrect password attempts06:19
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nielsis that an other ps?06:19
judgenniels, do you not remember your password?06:19
judgenno there is only one in default kubuntu06:19
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judgenthe one you chose at install06:19
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e\ectro_is anyone installing Kubuntu over NFS or through a local HTTP mirror they setup?06:20
nielsI restarted it andnow it is ok06:20
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pablohow can I change driver06:20
nielsPakketlijsten worden ingelezen... Klaar06:20
nielsBoom van vereisten wordt opgebouwd... Klaar06:20
nielsPakket synaptic is niet beschikbaar, hoewel er naar verwezen wordt door06:20
nielseen ander pakket. Mogelijk betekent dit dat het pakket ontbreekt,06:20
nielsverouderd is, of enkel beschikbaar is van een andere bron06:20
nielsE: Pakket synaptic heeft geen installeerbare kandidaat06:20
nielsthat's the warninig06:20
nielsbut it is in dutch06:20
judgenits ok, i understand a bit dutch06:21
nielsk06:21
nielsdo you know what's the fault?06:21
judgenniels join me in #emptychannel so we wont take space here06:21
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trappistniels: you're trying to install a package that doesn't exist06:21
judgenyes06:21
DaSkreechthe power company just fried my 120 GB06:21
ElectrolyteAfternoon.06:21
nielsja dat had ik ook al begrrepen trappist:)06:22
nielsmaar ik moet het tohc hebben:)06:22
trappistniels: I don't speak flemish :)  I just managed to put together enough to recognize the error message, which I've seen in english a million times06:23
ElectrolyteI'm thinking of switching to Kubuntu (latest release) for desktop applications (IM'ing, web browsing, listening to music and watching videos etc) but I have a problem that I get with all Linux distros with the sound - anyone good with ALSA?06:23
judgentrappist yeah =)06:23
nielsoowo nice done trappist:)06:23
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DaSkreechjudgen: Why Synaptic?06:24
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ElectrolyteCan't even find the problem I get on the net :(06:25
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DaSkreechElectrolyte: What's the problem?06:27
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ElectrolyteIt's with the sound engine on any Linux distro, when ever a sound event is played, sometimes the volume of the file will increase at any time while it's playing.06:27
ElectrolyteI'm doing to be dual-booting XP and Kubuntu 64-bit you see, I'm getting sick and tired of XP constantly playing up.06:28
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ElectrolyteI've posted a thread on Linux Questions about it since no one else has posted something like it before, just I thought IRC would get some answers faster since I want to install Kubuntu very soon.06:30
trappistElectrolyte: I've never heard of that one.  what sound card do you have06:31
ElectrolyteCreative Audigy 2 ZS.06:31
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trappistaudigy drivers are pretty good.  you don't need to use a sound engine, since it does hardware mixing.  turn off artsd if you're using it.06:32
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trappistjust use alsa (which isn't an engine)06:32
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ElectrolyteI think ALSA is what I usually use.06:32
trappistdarky: please don't do that.06:32
ElectrolyteI'll wait till I have Kubuntu installed then come back once I've got it running.06:32
nabz_hey, whats that menu called which comes  up wen u start your system06:32
trappistElectrolyte: ps aux | grep arts06:32
nabz_cant remember the name lol06:33
darkytrappist: sry did not know that my client is doing this06:33
ElectrolyteI haven't got installed yet trappist :P06:33
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ElectrolyteOn XP at the moment.06:33
trappistdarky: yeah some silly clients do it by default.  their authors should be thumped.06:33
nabz_grub06:33
nabz_thats it :)06:33
trappistElectrolyte: I've never had a problem with the emu10k1 drivers (the audigy drivers) unless I was unnecessarily using something like artsd06:34
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ElectrolyteOk, I'll come back after I have Kubuntu installed (I have to do a load of stuff before installing it since the ATI drivers fail to work).06:34
nabz_does anyone know how to edit the grub menu?06:34
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trappistnabz_: sudo vi /boot/grub/menu.lst06:35
nabz_ty06:35
trappistsorry you probably don't want to use vi if you're not accustomed to it06:36
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nabz_theres somthing like kate isnt there?06:36
nabz_or somthing similar06:36
nabz_cant remember it either lol06:36
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trappistnabz_: yes, kate is nice06:36
TheGateKeeperhi folks, if http://192.168.0.x:631/printers accessess the printer on my linux box, is there any way to substitute 192.168.0.x for the computer's real name?06:36
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aliasfredkdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst could replace it06:37
rabbi1Anyone know a good chat client for GNOME?06:37
trappistTheGateKeeper: you could add the entry to /etc/hosts or run your own dns server06:37
DaSkreech!away06:37
ubotuPlease don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines06:37
trappistrabbi1: try #ubuntu (we're kde guys here)06:37
rabbi1trappist: oh sorry sorry sorry...06:37
rabbi1satte... I'll take my leave...06:37
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trappistwell I didn't mean "get the hell out"06:38
Electrolyte:)06:38
nearfarany idea why text in 'gnu screen' in konsole blinks?06:38
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trappistnearfar: never seen that.  what text?06:38
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nearfartrappist: all text -- blinkng06:38
nabz_is it possible to add images and things to grub?06:39
nearfarforeground vanishes, comes back, vanishes, ..06:39
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trappistnearfar: is there a .screenrc in your home dir?06:39
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nearfartrappist: yep, it used to work well in gnome06:40
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Jack1hi06:40
trappistnearfar: it's very likely something in your .screenrc06:40
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Jack1i got a problem copying a cd in k3b i believe its cause of a cd protection06:41
trappistJack1: probably06:41
Jack1it says read error in section06:41
Jack1well in case its legal what can i do?06:41
trappistJack1: try this to make the image (probably won't work, but worth a shot)  dd if=/dev/hdc of=file.iso conv=noerror  (assuming hdc is your cdrom drive)06:42
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trappistnearfar: here's mine: http://linuxkungfu.org/files/home/dot_screenrc06:43
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trappistJack1: it should spit out a bunch of i/o errors but still continue06:44
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SanneHi, when I log out of Kde and choose "End current session", the kdm greeter screen has a much higher resolution than my usual desktop. When booting or when killing X with ctrl-alt-backspace, the kdm resolution is normal. What did I do to mess this up? ;)06:45
trappistJack1: if you want a *working* copy, odds are you'll need one of those shady win32 apps designed to defeat copy protection06:45
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zeredhi everybody06:49
ElectrolyteTime to install Kubuntu, bbl.06:49
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zeredWhen I want add new wallpaper I can't have thumbnial in "newest". Bug of kubunut or kde  3.5.306:51
zered?06:51
scastOne question, I can't use kdesu with more than once at the same time?06:52
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Jack1trappist arent there no genuine linux apps?06:52
bipolarThe new kubuntu disks don't have kde 3.5.4 since they are not in the official repos, right?06:52
Sannescast: you mean, start two programs with kdesu? I think you can, but you need two commands.06:53
trappistJack1: not that I know of that are designed to defeat copy protection06:53
scastif i do kdesu [one program here]  and i try to do then kdesu [another one here]  while the other app is running when I prompt my password it says conversation with su failed.06:53
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Sannescast: I'll try it also, sec06:54
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Sannescast: works here. I did kdesu kate, then in another terminal kdesu konqueror06:55
ParkotronCan anyone get kscreensaver-xsavers to work in Dapper? The package installs without complaint, but they're not listed in my Screensaver KCM.06:56
scastI think god hates me :(06:57
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Sannescast: ah no :) Which programs do you try to start?06:57
Parkotronscast: It's more likely that it's just your computer that hates you. I wouldn't bring God into it.06:57
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scastBe right back, boss is calling.07:00
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SanneAh, I'm having this in my Xorg.log, maybe this has something to do with my problem: (**) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size configured to be 2048 x 153607:03
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SystematicDubjudgen: if your still on.  I installed Kubuntu so kudos to you!07:08
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judgenSystematicDub =)07:09
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alan1234567890hey everyone i was wondering does anyone know how to make a kubuntu cluster ?07:10
judgenalan1234567890 how many computers do you have?07:10
alan1234567890i was hoping to join multiple computers together to make on big one07:10
alan12345678907 computers07:10
judgenalan1234567890 are they identical?07:10
alan1234567890yes07:10
alan1234567890there not super fast now only 500Mhz but not bad all the same07:11
judgeni dont frankly know that one, but i suggest you ask the might google... sorry07:11
alan1234567890yep did but im getting clusters but i was hoping to use all computers as one if you know what i mean07:11
aliasfredi think there is a ubuntu dedicated to cluster07:11
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judgenalan1234567890 well, distributed computing.. or as a single computer?07:12
aliasfredsomthing simple like a livecd autodiscoverying other on the same lan07:12
judgena cluster isnt actually one computer07:12
nielshello judgen:)07:12
nielsthx 4everything mate:)07:12
nielsit's perfect07:12
judgen=)07:12
judgeni do my best =)07:12
Sannerestarting x now...07:12
alan1234567890whats the differenence?07:13
nielsbut now my letters and stuff like that are to big :)07:13
nielsand my view is a lil unsharp07:13
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nielsso I think i'm going to restart that command ...07:13
nielsand changing the resolution07:13
nielscos now 1024 is the biggest reso07:13
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nielscan you tell me that command again?07:14
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judgenalan1234567890 distributed computing clusters use the network to send hard to crunch data between the computers to offload the stuff. A single computer cluster actually works through a hardware bridge in one way or another07:14
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alan1234567890oh well then i want distributed computing .... is it possible ?07:15
judgensure, you just have to find the correct software..07:15
alan1234567890any ideas other then google , software names or anything ?07:16
judgenim very sorry07:16
judgeni know oracle has one sollution, but its very costly07:16
alan1234567890oh :) free :)07:16
judgeni dont think there is a free dbcp but i dont know07:17
judgenbut you can do the old mac/windows way of getting software... warez =P07:18
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judgenhow anyone can use windows is beyond me, you have to break the law or spend hundreds (maybe thousands) on software just to get to do what floss does for free =)07:19
nielsjudgen, can you help me another time?;)07:19
judgenok, i can see why gamers still want windows. But other than that.. (btw most old games i play works better in wine that in windows.. hehe)07:20
judgenniels sure07:20
judgenjoin the channel again07:20
ubuntuwindows is cool, you always have to do sth like repairing or installing new drivers07:20
judgenso true =)07:21
visik7anyone here use filelight07:21
visik7?07:21
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judgenand recover from viruses and other fine informationgathering products =)07:21
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judgenniels #emptychannel07:21
Stahlfrequenzif linux would be so popular like windows zou would also have much viruses07:21
judgenStahlfrequenz no07:21
judgenStahlfrequenz since no linux distro is so stupid that you put the root account as user07:22
judgenalso the stable driver model in windows makes it an much easier target to viri07:22
Stahlfrequenzmaybe because it is easier for the user ^^07:22
nielsi can't join the channel again cos I can't do that special alt gr characters...:s:)07:22
Parkotronvisik7: Yes, I do.07:23
judgenjust click the #emptychannel name =)07:23
visik7Parkotron: do you get crash on exit ?07:23
ParkotronYep. On both Breezy and Dapper.07:24
Stahlfrequenzsomeone here who uses macos07:25
Parkotronvisik7: I don't use it all that often, so I guess I've just gotten used to it.07:25
judgenStahlfrequenz sometimes07:25
visik7yes also to me on breezy and dapper it crash on exit07:25
Stahlfrequenzjudgen what do you think about it07:25
judgenStahlfrequenz im an os-whore =) *tries to learn them all* hehe07:25
judgenStahlfrequenz i think most of the groundwork is stolen from bsd, and the desktop itself is very overhyped07:26
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judgeni find it very annoying that i cant even sett window behaviours or remap keys07:26
judgenin macosx that is07:26
Stahlfrequenzehm you know macos is based on bsd07:26
judgenStahlfrequenz no its based on xnu but its uses many of bsds fine kits07:26
Stahlfrequenzi have to decide to buy a macbook or just a normal notebook with linux07:27
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judgenStahlfrequenz i prefer not to sponsor one of the lying caniving leeches of the opensource world07:28
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judgenso i buy regular pc hardware07:28
judgenand not overpriced mac stuff07:28
judgenyou can still run macosx on a regular pc illegally though07:28
Stahlfrequenzin the end the macbook is cheaper than a same fitted notebook07:29
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Stahlfrequenzi need it for university so i need a working os ^^07:29
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Stahlfrequenzmaybe an IBM is the right decision07:30
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judgenif you dont need to do vector graphics i prefer linux, if you do i take mac.07:31
larson9999how is mac cheaper in the end?  just curious.  i don't use laptops unless work gives me one anyway.07:31
Stahlfrequenzi need it for programming07:31
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Stahlfrequenzif you look for a same fitted notebook like a macbook you will see you pay more or the same for the normal notebook07:32
judgenlarson9999 they arent, maybe where he lives the macs are very cheap or the rest of the world is beeing suckerd by aple, as it costs (with the same performance) almost the double in sweden07:32
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judgenStahlfrequenz then i definitlty dont recomend macos07:32
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judgenStahlfrequenz xcode is still a mess, and cant handle large applications07:32
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judgeneven xcode3 (realeased just a few weeks ago) cant handle large apps07:33
Stahlfrequenzthere are cheap notebooks but i would never buy shit like acer for example07:33
Stahlfrequenzis xcode for linux_07:33
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judgenxcode is for mac07:33
Stahlfrequenzok07:34
judgenlinux use other stuff like gcc07:34
Stahlfrequenzjudgen i send you a file do not be surprised i just want to test07:34
judgenbut mac cant use gcc as theyr os isnt gpl07:34
judgenim firewalled07:34
Stahlfrequenzok07:34
Stahlfrequenzthx for conversation. i go now to fitness studio bye07:35
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judgenif you want kinda goot battery times, buy a used powerbook g4 and run ubuntu on it.07:35
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judgenthen you get the chance to learn ppc07:35
judgenprogramming07:35
judgenvery fun07:35
nielsjudgen, i'm back:)07:35
nielscan you reopen that channel with me07:36
judgendid it work07:36
nielsin command line i'm able to type those special signs07:36
judgen#emptychannel07:36
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pipanyone have a conflict between computer hardware and kubuntu os07:41
pipmy kubuntu is freezing on loading up the console07:42
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nielsjudgen?07:45
pipanyone have problems with the os freezing on startup07:46
judgen#emptychannel07:46
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neo381990hi07:47
judgenniels im back07:47
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neo381990can anyone help me a bit with kubuntu 6.06?07:47
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judgenmy vacation is soon over... only a month left =(07:47
neo381990huh?07:48
neo381990man it doesn't matter there is always next year to go again! well... that's what i always tell myself07:49
neo381990:(07:49
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neo381990plz can sb help me i can't get my ADSL to work in kubuntu 6.0607:51
neo381990plz can sb help me i can't get my ADSL to work in kubuntu 6.0607:53
nielshow come your on internet now?07:53
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neo381990i'm using a dual boot system i'm using windows right now07:53
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neo381990anyway can u help?07:54
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neo381990niels can u help??????07:55
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nielsoow jes, i've got dual boot to07:55
neo381990ok here is the thing07:56
nielseum a lil bit, just new 2 but my telenet connection is working:)07:56
nielseum are you dutch?07:56
neo381990no greek07:56
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nielsk07:56
neo381990to intall my ADSL modem i have to have some kind of compiler (it says gcc or sth)07:57
neo381990wich i don't have07:57
nielsi only have experience with wireless...07:57
nielshave you been to system setting network settings?07:57
neo381990no just install tha OS07:58
nielsos?07:58
My8osneo381990: gia na baleis ton gcc grapse: sudo apt-get build-essential07:58
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neo381990i haven't downloaded updates not even VGA drivers07:58
My8osneo381990: gia na baleis ton gcc grapse: sudo apt-get install build-essential07:59
neo381990re my8os apo pou tha kanei get afou den einai sto internet07:59
My8osxm...den taxa diabasei ola :P07:59
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neo381990kapoia stigmi prepei na grapsw ./configuration08:00
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neo381990kai ekei einai pou xreiazetai o gcc08:00
My8osbasika ela sto #kubuntu-gr na milame ellhnika me thn hsuxia mas08:00
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neo381990ok08:00
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Argail!repos08:03
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource08:03
Argail!easysource08:03
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic08:03
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goop2Im trying to make a google talk account on GAIM, but I dont see it in the menu :\08:05
goop2and google says you can..08:06
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Windif i download a .tar.gz file ... how do i install it?08:09
Windor is there an easier way to get did::rip08:09
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grothesk_Wind: apt-get install dvdrip08:11
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Windthanks08:11
grothesk_You will need mutliverse, Wind08:12
Wind?08:12
Windit's already downloading08:12
grothesk_.k08:13
Winddoes that mean ia lready have multiverse in08:13
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Q-Berlinprobably08:13
Windcoo08:13
Windmy friend gave me a whole bunch of stuff to isntall to watch dvds08:13
Windcodecs and such08:13
drbreen!codecs08:14
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:14
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drbreen!dvdcss08:14
ubotuI know nothing about dvdcss - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu08:14
drbreen!multimedia08:14
ubotuFor multimedia codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies | For multimedia applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications08:14
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Parkotrongoop2: http://www.google.com/support/talk/bin/answer.py?answer=2407308:14
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Windwhere would dvdrip be in the menu08:17
Windi did kbuildsycoca and nothing popped08:17
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nearfarwhat do you people use for programing editor in Kubuntu?08:19
nearfaror is there emacs-kde?08:19
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drbreen!kdevelop08:20
ubotuI know nothing about kdevelop - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu08:20
nearfarlol08:20
drbreennearfar: try kdevelop - avaiable in universe repo08:21
nearfarok08:21
Parkotronnearfar: I too use KDevelop.08:21
Parkotronnearfar: What kind of programming are you wanting to do?08:21
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nearfarParkotron: kind? I usually write Python code08:22
nearfarrecently started using emacs in gnome08:22
nearfar*emacs-gtk08:23
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ParkotronFrom what I recall, kdevelop's python integration isn't that great. Give it a try though, I'm not really sure what I'm talking about.08:24
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nearfarKate is also pretty decent.08:25
dhqi used kontact in kubuntu and sync my emails now all my emails are in my pc and deleted from my account how do i get them back in my email08:26
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Parkotronnearfar: Most KDE editting programs embed Kate as the editor. KDevelop, Quanta, and Kile all use it.08:28
nearfarI really wish an anti-aliased KDE GUI for Emacs08:29
sergiusensParkotron: can you configure kdevelop's editor so that when you press tab it goes to the corresponding place in a line according to the current coding standard08:30
sergiusens?08:30
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keymakerwhat should i type in konsole too se all secret running applicasions like adept ?08:31
Parkotronsergiusens: It has about umpteen different indentation options, so I'm sure you could probably get it to match your language of choice.08:32
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keymakerwhat should i type in konsole too se all secret running applicasions like adept ?08:32
crrjkeymaker, ps -A shows all processes, ps --help shows all the options for ps08:32
keymakerok08:32
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Windwith kaffeine when i open a dvd the screen is really bright, way over saturated, what's wrong?08:33
Parkotronsergiusens: It also has automatic indentation for C, Python, XML, and S & S C.08:33
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keymakerwhat to typ if i want too kill all ADEPT process runnig?08:34
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stokedfishwow, finally!08:35
stokedfishnow that was weird...08:35
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keymakerwhat to typ if i want too kill all ADEPT process runnig?08:35
TheGateKeeperkeymaker: sudo killall adept08:35
Parkotronkeymaker: Killing adept could get messy.08:35
stokedfishhello kubuntu world :)08:36
keymakerlook at this08:36
keymakerkeymaker@keymaker-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin08:36
keymakerE: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.08:36
keymakerkeymaker@keymaker-desktop:~$08:36
Kyral_LaptopNow use the CLI :P08:36
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stokedfishare there already debs for the newest amarok or will there be for the final?08:36
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Admiral_Chicagostokedfish, i think the latest is 1.4.108:37
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sergiusensParkotron: i've selected my choice of formatting in the settings, and use edit/reformat source now and then... the thing is when i'm writing it seems that when press enter the auto indent sometimes stops working. so i was looking for a key to indent to the right place according to my formatting options08:38
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stokedfishAdmiral_Chicago: ok, htx!08:38
Admiral_ChicagoI'm on 1.4.1 and i think thats the lates stable08:38
sergiusensParkotron: wow, that came out pretty long :-S08:38
Admiral_Chicagocheck out this link to help you out to get the new one08:38
Admiral_Chicago!amarok08:38
ubotuamarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.1 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php08:38
Parkotronstokedfish: http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest/ always has the newest available amarok debs (including betas).08:39
keymakersudo killall adept08:39
Parkotronsergiusens: Sorry, I can't really help you. I do all my indenting manually, so I've never played with that stuff.08:39
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aliasfredamarok will be good when it gonna be stable :) my impression is they run adding new stuff before fixing old one08:40
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TheGateKeeperSo why isn't amaroK 1.4.1 put in the standard repos and upgraded in as other pacakages are?08:41
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Admiral_Chicagoaliasfred, well 1.4.1 is a pretty cool release08:41
keymakersudo killall adept08:41
keymakersudo killall adept08:41
keymakersudo killall adept08:41
keymakersudo killall adept08:42
keymakersudo killall adept08:42
keymakersudo killall adept08:42
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keymakersorry08:42
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ParkotronTheGateKeeper: Upgrades only make it into the standard repos when it's required for security.08:42
Alextremohello sorry i have a question about kubuntu08:42
Admiral_ChicagoAlextremo, then ask it08:42
aliasfredAdmiral_Chicago: dunno what you mean 'pretty cool', like does it work ? does it core a lot ? does it loose your playlist ?08:42
ParkotronAlextremo: Don't be sorry.08:42
Admiral_Chicagoaliasfred, they do a sync with media device which is pretty cool08:42
stokedfishkubuntu = love08:43
TheGateKeeperParkotron: so you have to wait for the next release of (k)ubuntu?08:43
Admiral_Chicagoso I can plug in an iPod and listen to it08:43
stokedfishthat's all i can say08:43
stokedfishperiod.08:43
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aliasfredAdmiral_Chicago: not that you answering my questions tho :) but in anycase you seems very satisfied by amarok, so its cool :)08:43
ParkotronTheGateKeeper: Exactly. Or you can just use the semi-official unsupported Kubuntu amaroK repos.08:44
AlextremoParkotron Admiral_Chicago: dont worry man i did the problem thanks anyway08:44
Admiral_Chicagookay08:44
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AlextremoParkotron: Administrator thx08:44
ParkotronAnytime.08:44
sergiusensParkotron: no problem... it's that emacs use to do it ok... but i forgot all the shorcuts and don't feel like learning them again :-S... thanks08:44
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Admiral_Chicagosergiusens, emacs...shudder08:45
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meilonso, jetzt direkt aus kubuntu raus08:45
TheGateKeeperParkotron: have to say that is a 'pet hate' of the ubuntu release system, I see we are on Firefox 1.5.0.5 but I am sure windows are 1.5.0.608:45
RogueXDoes anyone know if some repositorys are down?08:46
aliasfred!de08:46
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de08:46
victor__hola08:46
ParkotronI asked earlier, but got no reply, so I'll ask again: Can anyone get the kscreensaver-xsavers package to work in Dapper? The package installs without complaint, but they're not listed in my Screensaver KCM.08:46
meilonzu meinem kompilierungsproblem:08:46
meilonmeilon@meilon-nb:~/acerhk-0.5.33$ make08:47
meilonawk: cannot open /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-k7/build/include/linux/version.h (No such file or directory)08:47
aliasfredmeilon: !fr08:47
meilonawk: cannot open /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-k7/build/include/linux/version.h (No such file or directory)08:47
aliasfred!de08:47
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de08:47
meiloncc -I/lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/include -c -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -pipe -DMODVERSIONS -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ -o acerhk.o acerhk.c08:47
meilonIn Datei, eingefgt von acerhk.c:38:08:47
meilon/usr/include/linux/config.h:1:2: Fehler: #error "Compilation aborted. Please read the FAQ for linux-libc-headers package."08:47
meilon/usr/include/linux/config.h:2:2: Fehler: #error "(can be found at http://ep09.pld-linux.org/~mmazur/linux-libc-headers/doc/)"08:47
meilonacerhk.c:2973:2: Fehler: #error This driver is only available for X86 architecture08:47
meilonmake: *** [acerhk.o]  Fehler 108:47
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aliasfredmeilon: it is for you and please dont paste all your error here :)08:47
aliasfred!de08:47
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de08:47
meilonups!08:47
ParkotronTheGateKeeper: It can be annoying at times, but if you realy "need" cutting edge you can always choose a more cutting edge distro.08:47
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Parkotron!paste08:47
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)08:47
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Beeblebroxanyone here running Counterstrike Source via Ubuntu?08:49
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neo381990My8os sto gr08:51
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jujimufuhey guys08:52
jujimufuI am trying to install XGL08:52
jujimufuand on installing compiz08:52
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jujimufuafter I've added the deps in the source list and all, I do "sudo apt-get install compiz" and I get the following error:08:53
jujimufucompiz08:53
jujimufuThe following packages have unmet dependencies:08:53
jujimufu  compiz: Depends: libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.12.3) but 1.12.2-0ubuntu3 is to be installed08:53
jujimufuE: Broken packages08:53
jujimufuany ideas?08:53
TheGateKeeperParkotron: if I wanted cutting edge I guess I would install Edge, I like dapper as it is. :-) I just find it annoying that certain applications that have become accepeted as stable are held back for the next release of ubuntu, such is life.08:53
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jujimufuwhat do you mean, install "edge"?08:54
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ElectrolyteWell, installing Kubuntu went terribly wrong thanks to ATI's drivers.08:54
aliasfrededgy is the name of the dev release of ubuntu08:55
TheGateKeeper!fix08:55
ubotuI know nothing about fix - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu08:55
aliasfredElectrolyte: you tried easysource ?08:55
aliasfred!easyinstall08:55
ubotuI know nothing about easyinstall - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu08:55
aliasfred!easysource08:55
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic08:55
aliasfrednot that08:55
Electrolyteeasysource?08:55
aliasfredi dont remember the name, there is a tool special to make common install stuff easier08:56
jujimufuWell, ok, I have downloaded kubuntu 6.06 LTS08:56
aliasfredone of them is to install the ATI driver08:56
jujimufueasyubuntu?08:56
aliasfredyes! :)08:56
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jujimufuI have installed everything, apart from the GF drivers08:56
aliasfredElectrolyte: have you tried easyubuntu ?08:56
jujimufu!easyubuntu08:56
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.08:56
ElectrolyteI'm a newb at Linux.08:56
Windcan someone tell me what they have for brightness and contrast for kaffeine video player?08:56
ElectrolyteAnd I mean totally.08:56
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TheGateKeeper!fixinstall08:57
ubotuFor a few common problems when installing, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall also make sure you have read !install08:57
Windwhen i load a movie everything is over saturated so i'm trying to get it back to normal08:57
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ElectrolyteI'm trying my absolute best to get off Windows for everything but gaming but it's too difficult :/08:57
jujimufuElectrolyte: cedega?08:57
jkeelElectrolyte: it takes dedication :)08:57
Electrolytejujimufu: eH?08:58
ElectrolyteEh*08:58
jujimufucedega, the program that supports around 70% of the games for windows, under linux08:58
ElectrolyteNever heard of it.08:58
jujimufuwww.transgaming.net , I think08:58
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Electrolytelol, I'm not paying for that.08:59
mahenNot really 70% :) But surprisingly some quite new titles such as Heroes 5 work very well :)08:59
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eamonhow can I install a package from a .deb file? Ie, the command line way.09:00
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GnarusLeoI am using kubuntu .. and why is it that EVERY font I am trying to choose to AMSN looks unclear and crappy? Is there something Im missing here?   And My KDE use "sans serif 10" .. but this isnt on the AMSN list even ..09:01
fdovingeamon: sudo dpkg -i package.deb09:01
eamonthanks fdoving09:01
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trappistElectrolyte: you can get the source for free and build it yourself.  it'll lack some features, though, most notably safedisc copy protection support09:02
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ElectrolyteErr, well most of my discs have that so that's a bit pointless :/09:03
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trappistyou're stuck paying the exhorbitant $15 then, if you want to play windows games on linux09:04
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errpast1anyone run kubuntu over XP with vmware server?09:05
ElectrolyteI'll just stick to XP then :/09:05
ElectrolyteI'm thinking of formatting tomorrow and sticking 2000 Pro back on any way.09:05
errpast1Am running xp host, vmware server, kubuntu 6.06.  1 Gig ram.09:05
nielscan someone give me a site where I can download all codecs?09:05
errpast1Seems OK.  But when I add second vm (Ubuntu), slows very badly.09:06
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nielshello everybody, does someone know an all inclusive codec package?09:09
Windwhere would i get the sony vaio drivers or package for my laptop09:10
yogiRiddell: Any ideas as to why the new kernel update (last last month) causes Creative Webcam NX not to work when it was previously?09:10
fdoving!codecs > niels09:10
visik7my custom install cd work smoothly09:10
Riddellyogi: nope09:10
visik7cool09:10
yogiRiddell: Any idea where I might look?  I'm tapped out.09:11
TheGateKeeperjujimufu: you could try: apt-get -f install or apt-get -f remove09:11
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fdovingyogi: does it use restricted modules? if so, i've noticed linux-restricted-modules are not always pulled in with kernel updates. Check that you've got a version matching your kernel.09:12
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TheGateKeeperjujimufu: what you have is broken packages you could also try aptitude to see if it will let you either reinstall or remove the broken packages. Got to run good luck :-)09:12
Freddy2hi09:12
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Windanyone?09:13
Freddy2i've seen the announcement for dapper drake, and i've taken a look at mirror sites but.. only 1 cd? or maybe 2, considering also the "alternate" cd?09:13
nielsfdoving, what do u mean? !codecs?09:13
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fdovingniels: didn't you get the notice from ubotu ?09:13
trappistWind: most any drivers available for linux ship with ubuntu09:14
fdoving!codecs09:14
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:14
fdovingniels: ^^09:14
yogifdoving: Hm.  Will check Adept to see.   Thanks09:14
nielsk how to do this?09:14
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nielswith synaptic?09:14
GnarusLeoI am using kubuntu .. and why is it that EVERY font I am trying to choose to AMSN looks unclear and crappy? Is there something Im missing here?   And My KDE use "sans serif 10" .. but this isnt on the AMSN list even ..09:14
Windtrappist: it's not recognizing my video card, sound, monitor, etc09:14
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fdovingniels: go to the webpages and read the documentation. you'll find better help on those pages than in this channel.09:15
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fdovingGnarusLeo: amsn has poor font support.09:15
|lostbyte|fdoving, why so ?09:16
fdoving|lostbyte|: no anti aliasing, doesn't recognize my utf-8 chars, like , by default, that is. it can probably be hacked to look good.09:17
yogifdoving:Don't think webcam NX uses any of them.  I know it uses the spca5xx module, and that's it.09:18
fdovingGnarusLeo: you might want to look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8700109:18
fdovingyogi: ok, then i don't know.09:18
|lostbyte|fdoving, k.09:18
GnarusLeothanks09:18
|lostbyte|fdoving, thats it ?09:18
mindspindoes anybody know if a dist-upgrade will install kubuntu 6.06.1 ?09:19
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[GuS] hi there!!09:19
fdoving|lostbyte|: yes, that's it. kopete is nicer by default.09:19
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fdovingmindspin: it will.09:19
mindspinso update dist upgrade will do ?09:19
[GuS] one question... since i've updated to KDE 3.5.4 i cant compress files in gz.tat gz.bz2 and non of the options that konqueror has09:19
InteliWaspis there a know bug with daper for old monitors and a newish vid card that can do resolutions higher that the monitor?09:20
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yogiThanks, fdoving... just looked, again, and it seems I have the latest restricted modules.  Kopete quit working w/cam, too. :-\  Guess it's back to last kernel.  Thanks, again.09:21
yogiGood day, everyone. :-)09:21
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|lostbyte|fdoving, Compiling tk with xft support solves anti-alias problem.09:21
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GnarusLeofdoving, it said in the howto that "if you did everyhing over you can choose nice fonts" .. but do I have to reinstall everything?09:21
|lostbyte|fdoving, amsn has utf-809:23
fdoving|lostbyte|: i know, i selected it, but it still didn't accept my utf8 chars.09:23
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fdovingGnarusLeo: not sure. i didn't do it myself, just found the link on google. If you follow the howto and it still doesn't work i don't know what to do.09:24
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|lostbyte|k09:25
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anilhi, how do i prevent the bcm43xx module from loading? im installing the driver via ndiswrapper09:25
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|lostbyte|anil, Add it as a black list.09:26
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anil|lostbyte|: how?09:26
fdovinganil: add a line with 'blacklist bcm43xx' to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist09:26
anilfdoving: thanks :)09:26
anilwhere's the documentation related to this?09:27
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InteliWaspis thw bcm43xx compatable with the bcm 4306?09:27
fdovinganil: no clue.. 'man modprobe' mayebe.09:27
|lostbyte|InteliWasp, yes it is.09:27
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|lostbyte|anil, documentation for ?09:28
aniloh working with modules.. blacklisting, aliasing etc09:28
InteliWasp|lostbyte| i wonder why it won't work automaticly... it says that it cant find something... yes i forgot it09:28
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viktordoes anyone know how i enable the S/PDIF (Coaxial) in kubuntu ?09:29
|lostbyte|InteliWasp, Cant find what09:29
InteliWasplooking now... if it dosent back out on me...09:29
InteliWasp*black09:30
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vikkehello, im trying to compile something, but in the readme it says i need the source to my kernel. How do get that?09:32
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InteliWasp|lostbyte| ok got it   " bcm43xx: Error Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed.09:33
hervehi ....where can i have entire repository list for kubuntu09:33
|lostbyte|vikke, kernel-source-<versiom>09:33
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|lostbyte|InteliWasp, Ahh, did you download the firemware ?09:33
|lostbyte|firmware.09:34
InteliWasp|lostbyte| not yet, havent gotten the chance09:34
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|lostbyte|THis is the firmware.. http://svit.epfl.ch/stuff/wl_apsta.o09:35
vikke|lostbyte|, is that a terminal command? anyway i dont know my kernel version09:35
Windis there a gamma and color correction program for kubuntu09:35
|lostbyte|Then you have to use a bcm43xx-extrator to extract it.09:35
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|lostbyte|vikke, From adept.09:36
|lostbyte|Search for kernel-source09:36
ErtainHello everyone.  I'm using KDE and recently I was able to get Xgl going without using the kde-window-decorator (I had to use cgwd).  To use Xgl, though, I had to modify my /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc file, my /usr/bin/displayconfig-restore file, and place the right *.desktop file in my $HOME/.kde/Autostart directory.09:36
|lostbyte|and install the version that matches "uname -r"09:36
ErtainCrap, I knew I shouldn't have done a cut-and-paste with that last one.09:36
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|lostbyte|Ertain, :)09:37
InteliWasp|lostbyte| i got the driver, where do i put it?09:37
[Relic] what causes random changes in the desktop settings?09:37
ErtainAnyway, I have seen how I can merely put a different desktop file in my /usr/share/xsessions directory, I'm wondering how I can use compiz without putting the compiz desktop file in my $HOME/.kde/Autostart directory (on the account it will still start up when I use Xorg and not Xgl).09:37
|lostbyte|InteliWasp, got to extract it dude.09:37
[Relic] can't seem to align to grid my desktop icons anymore09:38
|lostbyte|[Relic] , Like ?09:38
[Relic] and the bar with the clickable processes on it seems to be 1/2 normal size randomly09:38
[Relic] like when align to grid is checked and they icons don't align to grid09:39
|lostbyte|[Relic] , I usually save session to store those settings.09:39
|lostbyte|Ertain, I have a better way..09:39
InteliWasp|lostbyte| er... before i can do that... how do i set the display to use a certin resolution when booting? halfway into the boot proccess, the display goes black09:39
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[Relic] I am the only user on this computer, and up till a little while ago there seemed to be no randomness to the settings09:40
|lostbyte|InteliWasp, Display does "black" meaning. IT gives an error ?09:40
InteliWasplike a black screen09:41
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|lostbyte|InteliWasp, Pastebin your xorg.conf file.09:41
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pmhello09:41
marcus___zup09:42
|lostbyte|[Relic] , It could be anything.. Does this happen everytime you logout and in ?09:42
pmhow to convert mpg file into mp3, in other words how to rip sound from a video file?09:42
InteliWasp|lostbyte| give me a few minutes... gotta use a live cd09:42
anilaha worked :D great09:42
anilthanks guys09:42
anilnow i gotta get the wifi settings from windows and configure it in here :D09:43
anilbye09:43
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pmI've tried with ffmpeg but the output sound quality was much much worse09:43
[Relic] right now it is unable to align icons to grid, and has small bars, but it could change with the next time I turn it on09:43
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|lostbyte|pm, ffmpeg has some nice parameters did you read the man, manual ?09:43
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hytekkhi everyone !09:43
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romulohow do I do to make my screen work on 75hz?09:44
hytekkim a newbie and im having problems installing firefox,  using apt-get.09:44
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magical_trevskyhi, if I install the package 'gdm', will that let me use gnome, or do I need the whole 'ubuntu-desktop'?09:44
pmyes i did09:44
hytekkthere seem to be some dependencies which are not met.... how do i sort that out ? (libatk1.0-0, libgtk2.0-0 and libpango1.0-0)09:45
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|lostbyte|pm, I got another way..09:48
ErtainSo... What was that alternative, with configuring Xgl?09:48
|lostbyte|pm, mplayer video.mpg -dumpaudio -dumpfile audio_rip.mp309:48
hytekkanyone ?09:48
|lostbyte|hytekk, try apt-get install -f09:49
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|lostbyte|hytekk, and then try..09:49
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|lostbyte|magical_trevsky, Its simplay a X display manager.09:51
hytekk|lostbyte|: same message...09:51
|lostbyte|magical_trevsky, you can sill use gnome with kdm.09:51
|lostbyte|hytekk, What are you installing ?09:52
pm|lostbyte|: many thanks09:52
hytekktrying to apt-get firefox09:52
magical_trevsky|lostbyte|, so to actually get gnome, the only way is to install ubuntu-desktop?09:52
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|lostbyte|magical_trevsky, Yup ! that would be a Efficent way.09:53
magical_trevsky700mb of hdd space :(09:53
magical_trevskyah well, thanks :D09:53
|lostbyte|hytekk, dapper drake.09:53
|lostbyte|?09:54
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InteliWasp|lostbyte| ok finaly... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2020809:55
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hytekk|lostbyte|: what?09:56
GnarusLeowhat does katapulp do? And do we need it? :)09:57
|lostbyte|InteliWasp, so you want it to be 1024x76809:57
timthelion_I have a bunch of pictures on my computer. my ip over the lan is 192.168.1.123.  Is there an easy way that I could make it so that my family could go to http://192.168.1.123/picts and see an web page with "click to enlarge" thumbnails and also see a list of links to subdirectories?09:57
InteliWasp|lostbyte| yes09:57
GnarusLeotimthelion_, you should take a look at apache09:58
GnarusLeotimthelion_, and a easy picture gallery html maker09:59
timthelion_would that be easy to set up?09:59
InteliWasp|lostbyte| btw... that file you gave me, what kind of file is it?09:59
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sprinkDoes dapper still use the debian installer?09:59
GnarusLeotimthelion_, follow this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP09:59
sprinkI dont wanna use the gui installer09:59
|lostbyte|InteliWasp, go into that file and remove "1280x1024" from the 113th line.09:59
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hytekkhow can i automagicly download all dependecies to for example firefox using apt-get?10:00
|lostbyte|InteliWasp, Its a driver. but to make use of it in linux, you have to cut it open. Hold on..10:00
sprinkhytekk. dependecies are usually downloaded automatically if required and found in the repositorys10:01
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|lostbyte|InteliWasp, here, bcm43xx-fwcutter is the program. its in the repos.10:02
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fdovingsprink: the alternate cd use the good old installer.10:02
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hytekksprink: aha, so i see. i understand, but still doesnt solve problem im afraid...10:02
sprinkfdoving.. aww that sucks10:03
ninHer_hi all10:03
timthelion_!mov10:03
ubotuI know nothing about mov - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu10:03
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timthelion_is there some trick to get kaffene to play .mov files?10:03
sprinkfdoving. this will be my 3rd time downloading a new cd.. first I got ubuntu on accident.. (I wanted kde).. so then I got kubuntu.. now I need a different one the old installer10:03
fdoving!codecs > timthelion_10:03
sprink*sigh*10:04
fdovingsprink: heh.. you can rsync and probably save some bandwidth, if you have restrictions on bandwidth.10:04
InteliWasp|lostbyte| is it posible to get it installed on a machine without an internet connection?10:05
sprinkno restrictions.. just kinda silly10:05
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sprinkI dont know how anyone gets by using the installer on the live cds.. man.. that thing blows10:05
|lostbyte|InteliWasp, huh, download it and then transfer it to that pc.10:05
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elbourneHI guys10:05
|lostbyte|sprink, Blows ?10:06
sprinkyeah.. the installer on the live cd10:06
ErtainSo... How can I set up Xgl without needing to place the compiz.desktop file in my $HOME/.kde/Autostart/ directory?10:06
sprinkmeaing.. it sucks10:06
sprinkmeaning*10:07
InteliWasp|lostbyte| the display change did not work10:07
|lostbyte|InteliWasp, did you remove it from the line i said.10:07
|lostbyte|the line that has 24 on top of it.10:07
InteliWasp|lostbyte| yes10:07
|lostbyte|InteliWasp, then its not a resolution problem10:08
sprinkis there anyway to do a bare minimal install using the installer on the live cd?10:08
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|lostbyte|sprink, Installing kubuntu from the live cd is bare. :P10:08
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sprink|lostbyte| hmm.. so it just install and kde? :)10:09
InteliWasp|lostbyte| i wonder why it worked before bot not today...10:09
|lostbyte|sprink, yupp.10:09
InteliWasp|lostbyte| thats odd.... the monitor is reporting 85 hertz... but it normaly goes up to 80...10:11
sprinkokay that is good.. maybe its not as bad as I thought10:12
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ErtainBack to my Xgl question: if I installed the compiz-kde pack, it would install the libqt4 libraries.  I'm worried that this will break my system, or I'll have to then download a whole bunch of other packs when I want to compile KDE programs.10:12
norberthi there, does someone know why the downloads and updates from the server http://security.ubuntu.com are so slow or how i can make them faster?10:12
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|lostbyte|Ertain, these are all you need.. compiz compiz-gnome compiz-kde xserver-xgl libgl1-mesa libglitz-glx1 gconf-editor xmodmap10:13
fdovingnorbert: the datacentre where security.ubuntu.com is located had some bandwidth issues. Don't know when it will be fixed.10:14
|lostbyte|norbert, Search for another mirror.10:14
fdoving|lostbyte|: security.ubuntu.com doesn't have mirrors, or should not have, atleast.10:14
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Skrot!dapper-updated10:15
ubotuI know nothing about dapper-updated - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu10:15
Skrot!dapper-updates10:15
ubotuI know nothing about dapper-updates - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu10:15
Skrothum. What is dapper-updates?10:15
fdovingupdates to dapper.10:15
Skrotyes, just a normal apt-get update;apt-get dist-upgrade?10:15
fdovingyes, if you have the archive enabled.10:15
SkrotThe archive beeing?10:15
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drayenhumm this new 6.06.1 release, do i need to dist-upgrade? as i have amd64 and want to make sure i get the 32-bit compatibility Qt libraries on amd64 systems Fix....10:16
neo381990My8os sto gr10:16
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fdovingSkrot: in adept manager -> view -> manage repositories, check that dapper-updates is enabled.10:17
grotheskMy WLAN-card looses it's wepkey every reboot.10:17
Skrotfdoving: dapper-updates as a distro?10:18
fdovingdrayen: a dist-upgrade on your current 6.06 with the dapper-updates repository enabled will give you 6.06.1.10:18
grotheskWhat ist a clean way to have it set up atomatically?10:18
fdovingSkrot: no, it is a repository with the updates to dapper.10:18
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fdovinggrothesk: how do you set it?10:18
Skrotfdoving: okay, cause it says dapper-updates under the "Distribution"-coloum in adept10:18
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|lostbyte|grothesk, man wireless10:18
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grotheskfdoving: With 'ifconfig ra0 key MYKEY'10:19
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fdovinggrothesk: using 'wireless-key' in /etc/network/interfaces is pretty clean. or you could use knetworkmanager with kwallet support.10:19
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grotheskknetworkmanager does not run with my card, afaik.10:19
fdovingok, then using /etc/network/interfaces is clean.10:20
grotheskthx10:20
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scastAhh...10:20
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scastI used to use konqueror-only for my web needs... But it lacks a few features that I need.10:21
SkrotI see. Such as?10:22
|lostbyte|scast, like ?10:22
scasti love web developer toolbar :E10:22
scastTho the feed agregation feature in the botton right corner is sweet.10:22
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|lostbyte|scast, konq is bad with toolbars.10:23
|lostbyte|And have minimul plugins.10:24
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scastAlso Customize Google and Adblock+ is amazing.10:24
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lascarproblem: Kubuntu cannot load the x-server at startup; I have to type "startx" every, single, time.10:25
lascarany suggestions?10:26
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fdovinglascar: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm'10:27
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lascarfdoving: kdm is broken or not fully installed10:28
fdovinglascar: then try 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'10:29
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jc-dentonhello10:30
lascarfdoving: where "a" is the package name?10:30
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jc-dentonthe hibernate option disappeard from the klaptop menu10:30
jc-dentonand i have no idea why this is10:30
fdovinglascar: no, where -a is -a :)10:30
lascarok10:30
lascarnow what?10:31
fdovingjc-denton: is this edgy?10:31
jc-dentonno dapper10:31
jc-dentonbut i installed the new kde10:31
fdovingok..10:31
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fdovinglascar: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm' again.10:32
lascarfdoving: just did, same error message10:32
fdovinglascar: what about 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow kdm'10:33
fdovinglascar: if that doesn't work use 'sudo apt-get install kdm'10:33
lascar::installs kdm::10:33
fdovingjc-denton: i don't have a solution for you, sorry. Sounds strange though.. probably something in kde 3.5.4.10:33
lascarfdoving: should i install the suggested package "menu?"10:34
fdovinglascar: no, not needed.10:34
lascarok10:34
jc-dentonok10:34
jc-dentonhow can i suspend it w/o klaptop10:34
jc-dentonand there was a cli tool that shows you the acpi capabilities10:34
jc-dentonbut i don't remeber the name10:34
trappistacpi_available?10:35
fdovingjc-denton: you can experiment with 'pmi' on the commandline.10:35
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lascarfdoving: thanx10:35
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jc-denton< nils@nx7010:~ > pmi capabilities10:36
jc-dentonhibernate10:36
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jc-dentonhumm10:36
xevil!nvidia10:36
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto10:36
jc-dentonhow can i suspend it w/o kde10:36
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marcosHi.  i'm stuck at a resolution of 640x480.  would like to change it to 1024x768 well versed in linux, just stuck.  any help?10:38
jc-dentonhumm10:38
jc-dentonthe hibernate entry is just missing10:38
fdoving!xconfig10:38
ubotuxconfig is To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"10:38
samiam010203marcos --> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:38
fdoving!xconfig marcos10:39
ubotuI know nothing about xconfig marcos - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu10:39
fdoving!xconfig > marcos10:39
fdovingfinally got it right. :)10:39
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sprinkokay.. who ever said the gui installer installs the bare minimum is wrong10:40
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jc-dentonor where is the script that executes everything in /etc/suspend.d10:40
fdovingsprink: it installs a full kubuntu-desktop system.10:40
sprinkyeah.. someone here said it installs the bare minimum10:41
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sprinknow I have alot crap on my hdd I dont need10:41
jc-dentoni mean i don't care for now if klaptop does not work correctly10:41
userhar++10:41
jc-dentoni just want to hibernate my laptop and go to bed10:41
fdovingsprink: i recommend using 'debfoster' to get rid of the crap.10:41
samiam010203have you tryed kpowersave?10:42
fdovingjc-denton: doesn't 'pmi action hibernate' work?10:42
jc-dentonah10:42
jc-dentonthere is no man for pmi10:42
fdovingif you disappear i take it as a yes :)10:42
jc-dentonheh will try10:42
jc-dentonthx10:43
samiam010203anyone know how to get s2ram working in kubuntu?10:43
samiam010203on an emachines m6810?10:43
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Riddellkubuntu meeting now in #ubuntu-meeting11:03
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sprinkis it just me or is the security repositorys extremely slow?11:24
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aliasfredbtw why is the security repository not mirrored ?11:25
aliasfredi heard it is the only one not mirrored11:25
mackanits weird11:25
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jimmyAfter rebooting my pc, my home directory seems to be missing without a trace, has anyone ad this problem before?11:25
_justinEvening all ..11:25
soulriderdfoes anyone know a good linux alternative to Daemon Tools?11:25
aliasfredif i heard correctly, yeah it is weird11:25
sprinkso its not my pc? they are just slow11:25
aliasfredsoulrider: what daemon tools does ?11:26
soulridermount CD images11:26
soulrideron a virtual CD drive11:26
sprinkmy eta for these security updates is 7 hours11:26
sprinkI just wanna make sure its not a problem on my end11:26
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aliasfredsoulrider: mount -t iso9660 /my/fakedir /my/iso/image.iso  would do it :)11:27
neo381990My8os11:27
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soulriderits on an ISO11:27
soulriderits .img11:27
aliasfredwhat is .img ?11:27
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soulriderits a type of CD images :P11:27
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aliasfredhmm dont think so :)11:28
soulriderhmmm, i think so :)11:28
soulrideri **KNOW*11:28
aliasfredno me im correct :)11:28
_justinWhat is it ... Here I am with a proper full on Kubuntu problem .. I feck with it for hours and then think .. OH IRC .. Someone will help me ..11:28
soulrideri can go to wina nd mount and burnt here11:28
aliasfredok where did you get it ?11:28
soulriderits a DVD Image :P11:28
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aliasfredwhere did you get it ?11:28
soulriderperfectly legal too :P11:28
_justinThen just as I'm about the ask the question the problem solves itself ..11:28
aliasfredsoulrider: out of which software ?11:29
jimmyMy home folder is gone, can anyone help?11:29
aliasfredit seems like a software format11:29
soulriderno software :P11:29
_justinSo here i am .. a Man without a problem ..11:29
soulriderive burnt img files before11:29
aliasfredsoulrider: so you got a file which come from no software :)11:29
soulriderits a movie11:29
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aliasfredwow keep it :) it is the first one i ever see :)11:29
hads|homeAnyone tracking edgy and know what is going on with the fonts in KDE at present?11:29
soulriderreally?11:29
aliasfredsoulrider: which software created it ?11:30
soulriderive used several of those files, just never under linux11:30
soulriderdont knwo11:30
aliasfredsoulrider: how did you rip this dvd ?11:30
aliasfredah ok11:30
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soulrideri didnt :P11:30
aliasfredok :)11:30
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aliasfredfrom what i imagine, this is a software format, specific to some window dvd ripper11:30
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BluesKajwhat's the scrn kill cmd ?11:30
jimmysoulrider, did you try k3b?11:31
BluesKajfrozen app11:31
BluesKajwon't exit11:31
soulrideri dont think k3b can burn it11:31
BluesKaj3 finger salute not working, neither is the logout11:32
BluesKajhelloooo11:32
BluesKaj?11:32
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mackanhi BluesKaj11:32
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BluesKajhi mackan11:33
aliasfredsoulrider: from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CD_image#.IMG this is a raw dump, so you may try to simply rename it as .iso11:33
soulrider:/11:33
soulriderdont worry, ill just burn it on win11:33
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soulriderim too cheap to risk losing a DVD :P11:33
mackanctrl + alt + backspace aint working BluesKaj?11:33
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aliasfredsoulrider: simply mount it as loop first and then see11:34
jimmyhas anyone ever had the problem of thier home folder simply dissapearing? I can't even log into KDE, GNOME, or XFce11:34
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aliasfredhttp://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion <- or play with that soulrider11:35
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soulriderbrb11:35
mads_pederim sorry to bother you again inhere . my ubuntu still suffer complete jam when i try and run kopete. i have removed and added it several times , but no changes. i have also ran other things that causes simular freezes where my only option is to shut it down by pushing the power button. but i would really apreciate if someone could tell me how to get the kopete to work again. i pick it in the application menu , about 10 secs go before it shows up and at11:35
mads_peder.11:35
aliasfredjimmy: dont remember anybody reporting that before11:35
jimmyit is really weird, it happened about 10 minutes ago11:35
jimmyI was watching this clip about a wireless lcd that some guy made, then firefox crashed11:36
jimmyand it would not startup again, so i figured that I would reboot, and when I did, poof! no more /home/jimmy11:36
aliasfredweird indeed11:37
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jimmyany ideas?11:37
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jimmyI can start gnome as root, but thats about it11:38
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freestylerhey everyone im new to this so can you help me out a bit?11:39
aliasfredwell try to go in /home to see what is there11:39
aliasfredyou should see a 'jimmy' aka your usename11:39
jimmyjust an old mythtv folder11:39
jimmyI know that, but it is not there11:39
jimmyit is totally gone11:39
aliasfredyou mean, the whole dir got wiped out ?11:40
aliasfredand ls -la /home/jimmy ?11:40
jimmyyes! I can't find it anywhere, I even did a search for it11:40
aliasfredok ok11:40
aliasfredwhat is your username in normal case11:40
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jimmyjimmy11:41
TheGateKeeper!ask > freestyler11:42
aliasfredok do 'du -s /home/jimmy' and paste the result here11:42
freestylerhow is everyone11:44
jimmydu: cannot access '/home/jimmy' : No such file or directory11:44
aliasfredhmm ok i smell an issue of disk mount :)11:45
freestylerhello everyone11:45
jimmymy home is not on a seperate partition11:45
aliasfredfreeflying: ultra polite mode :)11:45
aliasfredjimmy: well i never saw any /home/username dir being deleted spontaneously :)11:46
jimmyme neither :(11:46
aliasfredyou are sure about the separate partition ?11:46
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jimmyand of course tomorrow would be my backup date11:46
jimmyyes11:46
jimmya whole weeks of work, poof!11:47
aliasfredok you got cracked ?11:47
freestylerhello everyone11:47
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jimmycracked?11:47
aliasfredfreestyler: please say 'blablabla'11:47
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aliasfredjimmy: yep, like an evil attacker got into your box and start delete file for 'fun'11:48
freestylerblablabla11:48
jimmyhmmm, is that possible?11:48
aliasfredah ok :) just checking11:48
aliasfredjimmy: sure :)11:48
sprinkcan anyone answwer me please? I just want to know if the security repositorys being slow as hell is normal11:48
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jimmyI am behind a router and had firestarter on11:49
aliasfredjimmy: unlikely tho, but possible11:49
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Hobbseesprink: yeah, they've been slow recently11:49
jimmyis there any chance of a hard disk recovery?11:49
aliasfredjimmy: on the other hand, a home dir being wiped out is unlikely too11:49
jimmylol11:49
sprinkHobbsee. okay thank you11:49
aliasfredor maybe some misconfigured software started to rm -rf $SOMEUNSETVARIABLE11:50
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aliasfredjimmy: i think there is some tool to undelete file...11:50
pmdo you know some software for recording webcam streams (qt-, gtk- or whatever-based)?11:50
jimmyknow of anyone in particular?11:50
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aliasfredjimmy: what is your fs ? the one for /home or /11:51
aliasfredjimmy: nope but google will help me help you :)11:51
aliasfredpm, i use vlc11:51
jimmylol, just seeing if you of one already ;)11:51
jimmywell, thanks for at least trying to help!11:52
aliasfredok no trouble :)11:52
pmaliasfred: thanks, i'll try that out :)11:52
aliasfredpm, there is some option in the menu to setup the webcam recording, ctrl-a from memory11:53
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pmaliasfred: thanks11:56
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freestylercan you speak to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!12:03
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jimmyhey fred, is there a way to creat a working home folder without re-installing?12:05
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jimmybecause I get a kstartupconfigure error when i try to start kde normally12:06
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doppelganger_what is it you put in the top of a text file if you want to make it able to be executed, like at boot?12:07
doppelganger_it's like ./#bin or something12:07
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josiehowdy :)12:07
doppelganger_i'm just trying to basically make like a batch file that'll load on boot12:07
doppelganger_with just one command in it12:08

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