[12:07] depending on LaserJock's schedule though you MIGHT convince him to "re"hold the class again at 4 UTC though, but thats totaly upto him and what else he has planned, i know he is very busy most of the time [12:09] I was thinking of perhaps doing it again at a better time [12:10] what would 04:00 UTC be for the Europeans? === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:10] 6 am for CET === _maydayjay_ [n=maydayja@maydayjay.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:11] let's see, that would be 9:00 pm for me, I don't think I could do it [12:12] what about 17:00 UTC? [12:12] coffe it is then ;-) [12:12] oh [12:12] 17:00 would be just perfect for me [12:13] Meh. I'd have to refer to transcripts again. :) [12:13] 18:00 in the UK, 19:00 in the resto fo eourope (i suppose) [12:13] LaserJock: I don't mind really, as long as there are logs/transcripts afterwards. [12:13] TheMuso: he is talking about doing it 2wice [12:13] Oh. [12:13] yeah, I will keep the present one [12:14] but if people want another go I could try it (I might be a little tired of the subject by then, but ...) [12:14] btw, where are the earlier logs availible? [12:15] oh, sorry. Didn't look hard enough === selinuxium [n=selinium@80-193-7-120.cable.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nemish [n=nemish@ool-18be0779.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@203.23.49.35] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@CPE-124-178-25-126.wa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:34] any talk of flock making it into Edgy? [12:34] or Dapper [12:34] ? [12:34] (sorry, but questions lacking context are really difficult to absorb on initial reading) === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kagou [n=kagou@84.4.198.242] has joined #ubuntu-motu === welshbyte [n=welshbyt@cpc3-cwma2-0-0-cust276.swan.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:15] i know it's not a support channel, but it's s.o.s.: my / partition was remounted as ro due to an error [01:15] i cannot even save my work :( [01:15] /dev/sda7 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) [01:16] Ouch. [01:16] i just launched a search in nautilus [01:16] after that i got this [01:17] the /home is on a different partition, but i cannot save to that either (tho it's mounted rw) [01:17] What? [01:17] Thats really weird. [01:17] yep [01:18] never seen like this before [01:19] oh my, #ubuntu is pretty useless :( [01:20] phanatic, you've hardly given it any time. [01:20] micahcowan: okay, i can wait :) [01:20] it's just running off the screen very soon... === poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-251-119-70.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === neutrinomass [n=pandis@ppp26-100.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-64-26-167-82.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca [n=ryanakca@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ohoel [n=beshy@unaffiliated/eruin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrando1 [n=brandon@CPE-72-135-8-5.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth_ [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:08] heya Hobbsee [03:09] hi imbrandon, hi all [03:09] hello [03:09] hi ajmitch [03:10] hmm, does anybody have ops in #ubuntu-motu-school? [03:10] yay, another merge(well, a sync) for me to do [03:10] LaserJock: yes [03:10] you want topic unlocked for now? [03:11] that would suffice [03:11] I guess, I just want it updated [03:11] go ahead [03:11] we shouldn't have to worry about vandalism in there anyway. [03:12] is it cheating if I create syncs for me to file, if I do the debian upload? :) [03:12] Heh [03:12] ajmitch: I don't think so, but I've done the same thing. :-) [03:12] ack, I can't figure out how to do it === StevenK points at spe. === ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:crimsun] : foo === LaserJock is an IRC noob ;/ [03:12] err, sorry [03:12] crimsun: Nicely done. [03:12] :-P [03:13] yeah, go me with my missing leading / [03:13] LaserJock: /topic newstuff [03:13] yeah, I figured [03:13] it just wasn't letting me do anything [03:14] but I guess chanserv is being difficult [03:14] LaserJock: that's fixed [03:14] if anyone has topic history, that would be great ;) [03:15] crimsun: grepping logs :) === ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:ajmitch] : to: Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Documentation | Focus on http://tinyurl.com/nl87h (MOTU bugs) and http://tinyurl.com/rjcqu (UNMETDEPS) and http://tinyurl.com/kbxpe (mysqlclient) | http://tinyurl.com/pghsw (motureviewers) | [Edgy MoM] https://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html | Add yourself to http://tinyurl.com/fgpgy to upload to REVU [03:15] hopefully that was the last one set [03:15] probably not, looking at how old it is [03:15] That looks Dapper-ish === ajmitch scrolls up [03:16] before foo? [03:16] yeah === ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:Hobbsee] : Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Documentation | Focus on http://tinyurl.com/nl87h (MOTU bugs) and http://tinyurl.com/rjcqu (UNMETDEPS) and http://tinyurl.com/kbxpe (mysqlclient) | http://tinyurl.com/pghsw (motureviewers) | [Edgy MoM] https://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html | Add yourself to http://tinyurl.com/fgpgy to upload to REVU [03:16] there you go :) [03:16] Hobbsee: yes, exactly the same === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:16] thanks :) [03:17] we should change a few of those items [03:17] ajmitch: true enough [03:17] hi Burgundavia [03:17] Hey Hobbsee [03:17] hello Burgundavia [03:17] hi TheMuso [03:17] hey Hobbsee [03:18] can anybody get to ubuntu.ca or ubuntu-ca.org? [03:18] Burgundavia: I can., [03:18] s/\,$// [03:19] same here === ajmitch just has to figure out the python policy for his other packages now [03:20] oh that's an interesting point about the use of ~ in versions [03:20] heh, the only bugs I get from Debian for my packages are the policy kind [03:21] ajmitch: isn't mvo doing some sort of python policy too? [03:21] other packages that depend on foo (>= x.y), foo (<< x.y+1), but foo x.y+1~z is uploaded [03:21] Burgundavia: the whole world is moving to a new policy [03:21] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?submitter=madcoder-python-transition@debian.org [03:21] to give an indication of how much needs fixed [03:22] ajmitch: yes, and what is the difference between central and support? [03:22] not much [03:22] it's basically just pick which one you want [03:22] doko recommends central, but he wrote it so that makes sense ;-) [03:22] from a maintainer's perspective, you install to a different location for pysupport === StevenK finally updated Linda a few days ago. [03:22] right, that is utter insanity [03:23] why have two? === ajmitch used pycentral with his package that was just uploaded [03:23] pycentral looked less polished than pysupport. === StevenK tried both of them. [03:23] I only had to add a few lines in either case [03:23] right, it's absolutely trivial for a maintainer's usage [03:24] Burgundavia: I think there is an internal... discussion that means 2 apps to do the job [03:24] I changed Linda's build system so I could specify the module path more easily. [03:24] right, I sensed it was a bit more than discussion [03:24] See point #1 here: http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/python-policy/ap-upgrade.html [03:25] LaserJock: you should get your announcement of the school session on devel-announce if posible [03:25] ajmitch: well, I sent it to -devel [03:26] I saw [03:26] I wasn't sure if u-d-a was appropriate or not [03:26] the sessions by pitti & crimsun were listed there by dholbach [03:29] does anyone here use f-spot & want to test importing? [03:30] especially those bitten by imports of rotated photos being broken in some cases === bmonty [n=bmontgom@ubuntu/member/bmonty] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:33] ajmitch: edgy? [03:33] jsgotangco: for sure [03:34] I don't have issues with it at the moment, but others run into the bug [03:34] now if i could only have a sane network on edgy [03:40] hmm, I wish I could get edgy to install [03:41] hi all [03:41] Burgundavia: you cant? [03:41] i've been on edgy for a while now [03:41] heya bmonty [03:41] Hey imbrandon. [03:41] heya TheMuso [03:42] Hobbsee: installer fails on the partitioner [03:42] Burgundavia: ah. useufl [03:42] *useful [03:42] Burgundavia: You using desktop or alternate [03:42] mine doesn't recognize the interfaces at first boot [03:42] Burgundavia: even with the alternate ? [03:42] TheMuso: desktop === ajmitch has only done upgrades from dapper [03:42] Right. [03:42] don't have any edgy alternate pulled down === TheMuso tried to install with the latest daily, but it seems to fail in the step after bootstrapping. The server preceed file doesn't exist on the site either. [03:43] SO I had to use knot 1. [03:43] I have heard all manner of hell from my LUG about the dapper installer, so I try and test is rigourously [03:43] site/cd/ [03:43] Burgundavia: dapper's install was ok, but had quite a few bugs [03:43] yep [03:43] most of which are probably fixed with 6.06.1 [03:43] if that's out now [03:43] looks like it is [03:44] ajmitch: yea its out afaik just maybe not on ALL mirrors === imbrandon wonders whom idea it was to put higher version of packages in dapper-updates than in edgy [03:45] brb === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === harrybuttle [n=tapeworm@d81-211-250-178.cust.tele2.it] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [04:04] crimsun: ping [04:05] pong [04:05] do you know anything about fcitx? [04:05] (free chinese input toy) [04:06] no, freeflying might [04:06] package is on the merge list...looks like a sync request to me [04:07] bmonty: please sync it from sid [04:07] freeflying: ok [04:07] bmonty: thanks [04:08] np :) [04:19] gaim 2.0.0 is going to be the standard for edgy, correct? === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@221.221.160.148] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:21] bmonty: should be [04:21] current in edgy is 1:2.0.0+beta3-4ubuntu2 [04:22] ok, I think we should remove the gaim-meanwhile package. See http://meanwhile.sourceforge.net/wiki/Gaim%20Meanwhile [04:22] currently gaim is built without meanwhile support [04:22] due to the lib being in universe [04:22] ajmitch: yeah, but if it was built with meanwhile support, the plugin is included in gaim 2.0.0 [04:23] either way we don't have the meanwhile plugin built [04:23] the hard option is to rip the plugin out of gaim's source & update gaim-meanwhile with it in universe [04:24] the easier option is to convince people that libmeanwhile should be in main === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@CPE-124-178-82-77.wa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === toddobryan [n=tobryan1@r6-5.iglou.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:47] Hi, all. If a Debian package exists for something, how hard is it to get an Ubuntu package? [04:47] toddobryan: depends, it should be in edgy if its in unstable [04:47] if not its just a matter of a sync [04:47] if it builds ok etc [04:48] toddobryan: what package ? [04:48] drscheme, v352 [04:49] probably just needs another sync [04:49] yea [04:49] its in edgy [04:49] brandon@voyager:~$ apt-cache madison drscheme [04:49] drscheme | 1:209-9ubuntu2 | http://192.168.1.5 edgy/universe Packages [04:49] drscheme | 1:209-9ubuntu2 | http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Packages [04:49] source is 1:301-15 [04:49] which obviously didn't build [04:50] right === ajmitch grabs & tries building [04:50] kk [04:50] If it's in edgy, can I install it in dapper? [04:50] Oh, wait. This is the backport thing, right? [04:51] (Can you tell I've only been doing the Ubuntu thing since June?) [04:51] possibly but its not recomended unless its in dapper-backports becouse then it has been tested in a dapper enviroment === Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth [04:52] While you're trying to build that, how hard is it to learn to package stuff? [04:52] Specifically, I use some Java programs in my teaching, and would love to have Ubuntu packages for them. [04:53] toddobryan: depends on the person, a good place to start is the packaging guide and the MOTU classes [04:53] !packaging guide [04:53] The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources [04:53] I just saw the class channel tonight. Once I can figure out how I'm related to UTC, I'll be sure to give those a try. [04:53] :-) [04:53] heh [04:54] where are you ? [04:54] US, Eastern Time. [04:54] I think I'm UTC-6 ?? [04:54] toddobryan: you are -4 from UTC [04:54] gmt -4 then i would think [04:54] Thanks. [04:54] yea [04:54] I was close. [04:55] toddobryan: the difference between New York and Denver :) [04:55] heh [04:55] But are Java programs reasonable given that they don't have different binaries, don't need make, etc? [04:56] toddobryan: yes, the packaging system can handle java programs [04:57] bmonty: I meant, are they reasonably easy to package? Is it something I could figure out in a weekend, or should I wait until I have a free week or two? === ajmitch should really get beaglefs synced [04:57] east coast is UTC -4 until we fall back an hour, then it will be UTC -5, and me and imbrandon will be UTC -6 again [04:57] toddobryan: hard to say, but take a look at the packaging guide. It should give you an idea of the level of effort required [04:58] toddobryan: you could probably get a good start on it in a weekend but dont expect to be an expert by then, it will likely take a cupple of months of weekends to get it 1000% [04:58] imbrandon: that soon? === ajmitch must be a really slow learner [04:58] ajmitch: I thought you learned how in two hours [04:58] ajmitch: hehe well possibly longer, but the basics to make a simple package [04:58] no doubt imbrandon, i have been doing it for a few months, and i still bother you to show me stuff [04:58] oh, the basics tonight ;) [04:59] bmonty: more like 5 years [04:59] i did my first package in a few hours, then had to learn how to sync it last night ;) [04:59] Looking at the packaging guide is actually very frustrating. They go through the basics of packaging some files, but there's no big overview to help you get your bearings. [04:59] thanks to Hobbsee of course on that first package [04:59] ajmitch: heheh yea thats what i mean i've been doing it some months new and am still very much a newb for the most part [05:00] I love creating a sync request for a package I just finished merging a couple days ago :( [05:00] toddobryan: thats becouse its very much experince orented every package can be very diffrent even though they all follow the same basic guidelines [05:00] Ah. [05:01] or /should/ follow [05:01] heh [05:01] bmonty: I love filing a sync request for stuff that I've been changing in debian [05:01] ajmitch: at least you can plan for that [05:02] quite easily [05:02] if I've got time to test one, I test the other [05:02] but yea you can get the basic concepts down in a weekend or two but like ajmitch said ( and dont let him fool you he is VERY good ) has been doing it 5 years and still trips up on things ;) [05:02] if I had waited 24 hours I could have done the sync request in the first place (kboincspy) [05:02] imbrandon: yes, like learning how to work with the new python policy, for example :) [05:02] hehehe [05:04] oh good [05:04] drscheme builds cleanly on edgy [05:04] OK. So there's this program, DrJava. It's a double-clickable jar file. That's the whole thing. Should *theoretically* be really easy to package, right? [05:04] ;P [05:05] ajmitch: Thank you!!! That's great news. [05:05] toddobryan: single binary ? [05:05] imbrandon: yep. That's it. [05:06] toddobryan: yea shouldent be terribly difficult but dont quote me 100% on that as i've never even looked at the progam === imbrandon avoids java like the plague [05:06] imbrandon: no problem. But it's probably a good one to start with. [05:07] imbrandon: I've become very enamored of Python recently. But as long as I teach AP Comp Sci, they're using Java. [05:07] heh get em to use c# ;) === imbrandon hugs mono [05:08] toddobryan: you are able to require the use of ubuntu in your class? [05:08] i've been using java for over 5 years and it's the language i'm most proficient in... i hate it [05:08] sync request filed for drscheme for edgy [05:08] imbrandon: Um, C#??? How would I afford the Visual Studio licenses? [05:09] toddobryan: *cough* mono *cough* [05:09] monodevelop [05:09] bmonty: I'm going to require it in my senior class, which is a software engineering/random CS topics class. [05:09] on windows sharpdevelop [05:09] toddobryan: since you said "AP" I'm assuming this is a high school class? [05:10] bmonty: There are only 20 kids, so I can help them with the installation. [05:10] imbrandon: Ah, now I remember what mono is...the OSS version of .Net? [05:10] toddobryan: basicly yes [05:10] bmonty: Yes. I teach at a high school with a Math/Science/Tech magnet. [05:10] http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page [05:10] toddobryan: nice [05:11] bmonty: Most days. Today we heard from the district office that they wouldn't tell us the license code for Windows so that we could create images for our labs. [05:12] now if you can go ubuntu all the way, it'd be good [05:12] even more reason to use ubuntu [05:12] ubuntu ;) [05:12] bmonty: We'll see whether they expect us to go around and install software on every machine individually or if they hope to do it before school starts next Tuesday. [05:12] though we're just slightly biased towards ubuntu in here [05:13] ajmitch: really? I hadn't noticed that ;-) [05:13] or {k,ed}ubuntu [05:13] toddobryan: we recommend Edubuntu or Ubuntu for your licensing needs. I have found to remove 100% of them. [05:13] ;) [05:13] I'm not biased [05:13] Actually, the plan in my lab is to have Windows on the hard drives to keep the county people happy, and then run Ubuntu using DRBL. [05:13] LaserJock: yes, we hate it with a passion & can't help noticing the flaws [05:13] *jedi hand wave* It's ubuntu that you're looking for, not these droids... [05:13] lol [05:13] the MCP in me would like to point out that AD is still easier than LDAP === ajmitch finds that people that are involved with development are often more realistic about the shortcomings :) [05:13] Oh, I'm convinced. [05:14] But, get this. [05:14] Burgundavia: I know, oh I know [05:14] ajmitch: right. Do something about it already ;) [05:14] They just got an email server that is only fully functional with IE. [05:14] Burgundavia: lol [05:14] toddobryan: ouch, that's not nice [05:14] toddobryan: ouch , email that requires IE ? [05:14] toddobryan: let me guess...outlook web access? [05:14] Uh-huh. [05:14] And that's all we've got. [05:14] Burgundavia: that sort of thing will take a year or two at least - it needs to be integrated across the system & desktop [05:15] toddobryan: you know evolution can access owa 100% right ? [05:15] you know it is possible to use it with firefox if the admin enables the "standard" mode [05:15] toddobryan: OWA will work in FF === bmonty has fought several admins to turn that on [05:15] ...and lost [05:15] The teacher next door to me had her account frozen because there were too many messages in her inbox, and they kept telling her it was because she was using Firefox. [05:16] Oh, it's usable. Just not "fully functional." Whatever that means. [05:16] toddobryan: evolutions excahnge connectior will connect to OWA also no problems infact thats what it was designed to do [05:16] I use a Mac at home. :-) [05:16] I use a Mac at work. :-) === imbrandon has a mac downstairs ( with ubuntu on it ) [05:16] hehe [05:16] I use a Mac when i have to walk to the shops in the rain [05:17] bah, well mine has a really messed up Edgy on it, darn ATI [05:17] My PowerBook dual boots... [05:17] :-) === Burgundavia watches toddobryan's bug roll by in #ubuntu-bugs [05:17] yea my iBook dual boots osx 10.4 and edgy [05:17] So, once drscheme is in edgy, can I request a backport? [05:17] some days, what I wouldn't give for a ppc mac :/ [05:18] heh [05:18] LaserJock: trade ya ;) hehe [05:18] sorry, my boss might get mad [05:18] there's a fairly good chance drscheme will build cleanly on dapper as well === ajmitch should check that now [05:18] toddobryan: yea but i would pop in here and ask the proper protocal first to make sure it go's through [05:19] I did not know that Evolution would work with a web connection. I'm setting that up now. [05:19] toddobryan: evo can speak directly to exchange [05:19] LaserJock: just paint my iBook black and print a sn sticker on the laser printer and pop it on the battery , good to go .... heheh [05:19] It would be great if the Ubuntu teachers had better email access than the poor saps on Windows. [05:20] Burgundavia: thats what i asaid, and actualy it talks to OWA not exchange directly if you actualy read what it does even though its named "exchange connector" === ajmitch needs to fixup his dapper pbuilder [05:21] imbrando: yep [05:21] goodnight all [05:21] night bmonty [05:21] Does anyone know if apostrophe is legal in an email address? === bmonty is now known as bmonty_away [05:22] toddobryan: unlikely [05:22] doubtfull [05:22] Yeah. They just made us all new email addresses, and didn't check. [05:22] So mine is Todd.O'Bryan@lameschool.us [05:23] Argh. [05:23] lol === ajmitch looks at the RFC [05:24] toddobryan: looks valid actually [05:24] Yeah. It worked. Amazing. [05:24] sounds like you guys need a IT dept ;) [05:24] imbrandon: cor, that's a bit drastic, isn't it? :) [05:25] welshbyte: heh maybe ;) [05:25] It's not really the IT people's fault. The district pays crap, so can't get qualified people. [05:25] hmm, anybody know if quod libet has done the python policy transition in edgy? [05:26] I had a student find her way into a payroll department computer and a big list of social security numbers. [05:26] heh nice [05:26] LaserJock: yes [05:26] All because no one bothered to turn off hidden shares. [05:26] LaserJock: at least it depends on python-central [05:26] k, I was thinking of using it tomorrow [05:26] toddobryan: yup another valaid reason for all linux ( esp the servers ) [05:27] LaserJock: brave of you === poningru cries on Burgundavia [05:27] whyyyyyyyyy [05:27] mutagen might be simpler [05:27] ajmitch: or stupid [05:27] poningru: ? [05:27] (it depends on mutagen) [05:27] dude I should have asked you to make a presentation to the UF people [05:27] (and yes, mutagen has transitioned) [05:27] crimsun: well, I liked quod libet because it was python and it has multiple binaries [05:27] poningru: UF? [05:27] uni of florida [05:27] just got a new library [05:28] crimsun: I don't think I'll say much about it [05:28] LaserJock: then you probably want to use 0.22-2, which has some stuff fixed. [05:28] millions of $$$ on computers+software === poningru wept [05:28] Burgundavia the ubuntu superstar? [05:28] poningru: that is sad === poningru wept like little girl [05:28] ajmitch: more like Corey Burger the Userful salesman [05:28] stuff are on tiber:/var/cache/pbuilder/result/ [05:30] crimsun: hmm, maybe I should do mutagen and then quod libet to show what a multiple binary package looks like [05:30] I'm afraid people have too high of expectations, you can't cover much in that amount of time [05:30] LaserJock: however you want to, prof. [05:31] poningru: in better news, colorado is shaping very nicely [05:31] Thanks so much, guys. Just got Evolution set up. It's awesome. [05:31] crimsun: hah, you're the real prof [05:31] LaserJock: teach us to package OOo! [05:31] toddobryan: np ;) [05:31] ajmitch: don't make me cry [05:32] LaserJock: I think you'd scare everyone off [05:32] hehe pick a k* package ;) [05:32] and you'd probably be hitting the liqour cabinet quite soon ;) [05:32] lol [05:33] LaserJock: my wife just told me its been 112+ out there the last few days [05:33] imbrandon: I'd rather not package any g* or k* [05:33] imbrandon: recently? it hasn't been that bad I don't think [05:34] well i just got off the phone with her, about an hour ago [05:34] she might have been talking about recient past [05:34] Burgundavia: nice [05:34] imbrandon: yeah, the high today was 90 in Reno [05:34] it was really hot not long ago [05:35] OK. Completely off-topic question...How do I find the Global Catalog server name? [05:35] is there an ldap server setup ? [05:35] hah, I just called a troll in #ubuntu. Nice. [05:35] just got called, rather [05:36] hahaha [05:36] oh nice [05:36] yes, after saying 1 line [05:36] I was impressed === imbrandon looks [05:36] what did you say? [05:36] 23:34 < mike-e> so, ubuntu doesn't support ISA? [05:36] 23:35 < crimsun> mike-e: it does, why? [05:36] Well, on the web interface, I just click a button. [05:36] hahaha thats classic [05:36] you anwsered him [05:37] should i feed the real troll and ask him why ? heh [05:38] nah [05:39] serves me right for trying to help [05:39] heh [05:44] ajmitch: Any news on drscheme in Dapper? [05:44] toddobryan: no, have to fix my build system first :) [05:45] ajmitch: Oh, OK. No prob. [05:49] ah, stink. I don't know how far to take this [05:49] I'd like to use an edgy pbuilder to build the packages [05:49] but that means people need to have an edgy pbuilder [05:50] thats a good hour there setting that up ;) [05:50] for newbs [05:51] luckily i set one up just yesterday :) [05:51]