[12:00] <Poromenos> owen_: chmod
[12:00] <Poromenos> owen_: or right click on them
[12:01] <owen_> is there a link with a more detailed information on chmod?
[12:01] <azrael0> owen_: man chmod
[12:01] <owen_> kk thanks
[12:01] <mengoman> hello
[12:01] <mengoman> i need some help
[12:01] <TheGateKeeper> owen_: may prove usefull: http://www.ss64.com/bash/
[12:01] <mengoman> ubuntu doesnt recognize my internal ethernet card for inspiron 2500
[12:01] <FurryNemesis> Kronospyder, the alternate install cd IS the full OS, just a different install method (customisable)
[12:02] <azrael0> !ask > mengoman
[12:02] <Poromenos> anyone know where the toolbar preferences are?
[12:02] <owen_> how do you exit out of man?
[12:02] <mengoman> q
[12:02] <azrael0> owen_: the q key
[12:03] <azrael0> brownster: Any further ideas?
[12:03] <brownster> azrael0, its been a while since ive had a problem,  have u looked at your xorg.conf file?
[12:03] <brownster> azrael0, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:03] <mengoman> ubuntu doesnt recognize my internal ethernet card for inspiron 2500, how do i get my ethernet to work?
[12:03] <steve_Laptop> anyone have a cups print server running?
[12:03] <azrael0> Yes. It looks OK to me, what specifically do you think I should look at.
[12:03] <azrael0> ?
[12:03] <sedat> is there anybody managed to run wireless with a broadcom chipset laptop and ubuntu64 os
[12:03] <owen_> i tried sudo chmod rwxXstugo /home/owen/Shared , and it said invalid mode
[12:04] <brownster> azrael0, look at the driver it loads ;under section device
[12:04] <NeoThermic> /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/ is the CPU, right?
[12:04] <Bergcube> ulisse~  I am back, have tested.  The reinstall did nothing detectable.  So I tried renaming the .gaim folder before starting it again.  Of course I had to configure an accout again.  I got logged on, but still no system tray icon at all.............
[12:04] <azrael0> brownster:         Driver          "nvidia"
[12:04] <Tal> anyway to start the ubuntu instal process from a CD while actually in windows?
[12:05] <ulisse> Bergcube: dunno, try to uninstall completely gaim and reinstall it from beginning...
[12:05] <mengoman> ubuntu doesnt recognize my internal ethernet card for inspiron 2500, how do i get my ethernet to work?
[12:05] <mengoman> im on a different computer
[12:05] <ulisse> Bergcube: apt-get remove --purge gaim and then apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:05] <mengoman> or is there a specific pcmcia card that i can get that works with ubuntu?
[12:05] <ulisse> have to go, goodnight ;)
[12:05] <Bergcube> ulisse~  Yeah...  We'll see.  thanks for your effort!
[12:06] <TheGateKeeper> Bergcube: #gaim might be able to help
[12:07] <Bergcube> TheGateKeeper~  Perhaps.  As it's one of the default applics I wanted to hear here first.  After all it has been modded and ubuntufied.
[12:07] <Poromenos> anyone know where the toolbar preferences are?
[12:07] <brownster> azrael0, im wondering if thats the software driver rather than the accelerated driver, which would cause doom3 to fail, need to check really. is there a hardware acceleration howto on ubuntu?
[12:07] <Poromenos> in gnome?
[12:07] <me223> hi
[12:07] <azrael0> brownster: In fact there is, and I followed it, then each of the troubleshooting steps as it continued to fail.
[12:08] <azrael0> brownster: I'm suspicious specifically of my libraries because wine will not compile against them, it's not just runtime.
[12:08] <Blinker> can anyone explain this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20152  ...it's a plain data disk with some avi's on it, opens fine under windows
[12:08] <justin420> hi all. anybody know why installing the nvidia driver from nvidia.com for linux doesnt work? I believe I have all my proper dependenices are taken care of.
[12:08] <me223> i have an external harddrive that has an ext3 filesystem, how to i change it to where i can read and write to it
[12:08] <TheGateKeeper> Bergcube: fair enough, ubuntu forums is also another place to search and/or post a question, reponce can be quite fast sometimes
[12:08] <azrael0> brownster: Additionally, I know this can work, because it used to, it just stopped working one day (I probably changed something, but I really don't know what it is)
[12:09] <mengoman> ubuntu doesnt recognize my internal ethernet card for inspiron 2500, how do i get my ethernet to work?
[12:09] <mengoman> or is there a specific pcmcia card that i can get that works with ubuntu?
[12:09] <Bergcube> TheGateKeeper~  For sure.  I am indeed a daily readyer of the mailing-lis, and have both posted Q's and A's there in the past.  But as there is another strange thing with this install I think I'll go for a wipe and reinstall very first.
[12:09] <owen_> sudo chmod rwxXstugo -c /home/owen/Shared  - it says invalid mode, man chmod aint really helping me with the format
[12:10] <TheGateKeeper> Bergcube: ok hang on...
[12:10] <Blinker> mengoman:  is that an intel pro wireless card?
[12:10] <mengoman> nah internal ethernet
[12:10] <mengoman> not wireless
[12:10] <brownster> azrael0,  did u follow the nvidia binary howto on the wiki?
[12:10] <mengoman> LAN
[12:11] <Blinker> oh, nvm then - read that wrong
[12:11] <mengoman> but yea its intel
[12:11] <azrael0> brownster: Originally no. Originally, I just installed nvidia-glx and switched driver lines. That worked for a while. At some point it broke.
[12:11] <brownster> azrael0, are u on ubuntu 6.06?
[12:11] <azrael0> bronwster: Then I followed the instructions on the wiki for installation in an attempt to repair it.
[12:11] <azrael0> brownster: Yes, and latest kernel.
[12:11] <TheGateKeeper> Bergcube: after you have installed the other things you want and have a 'working' system then do a backup, this might be of interest: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81311&highlight=HOWTO%3A+backup
[12:12] <Blinker> mengoman: is it coming up under device manager?
[12:12] <justin420> brownster: happen to have a URL for that? As I am having problem installing the driver from nvidia.com, which fixed my resolution of 1680x1050, but then upon a reboot it did not work.
[12:12] <Blinker> or not at all
[12:12] <brownster> azrael0, have u uninstalled the nvidia-settings and nvidia-xconfig packages?
[12:12] <AndrewCaul> How do I stop the nvidia splash screen from showing up?
[12:12] <mengoman> yea
[12:12] <Blinker> yeah which?
[12:12] <brownster> azrael0, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#head-442028f641933e559611b8e6993bff808d600069
[12:12] <azrael0> brownster: Neither is present
[12:13] <mengoman> it comes up
[12:13] <mengoman> but i dont see it when i do ifconfig -a
[12:13] <brownster> azrael0, but the nvidia-glz package is installed?
[12:13] <azrael0> owen_: If you typed the command you just said, you need to reread the man page
[12:13] <azrael0> brownster: nvidia-glx
[12:13] <Blinker> mengoman: and it's enabled in system>aministration>networking?
[12:13] <narak_> ok now, trying to install ubuntu on my server with the server cd.. following the install menues similar to how I have done it with debian several times before.. all seems to go well with install... then it reboots, loads grub, and "pow" there it stops. says it cant mount various dirs
[12:13] <Blinker> or does it not appear?
[12:13] <azrael0> brownster: I've not heard of nvidia-glz, nor does it appear to be in repos.
[12:13] <mengoman> dont appear
[12:13] <owen_> alright, thank you, i was in a rush, i tried chmod 777 /home/owen/Shared and it worked, thank you all
[12:13] <ferose> can anyone help me run mountiso in gnome
[12:13] <mengoman> only the modem appears int eh networking
[12:14] <brownster> azrael0, sorry , typo
[12:14] <Bergcube> TheGateKeeper~  Thanks a lot! Backups are always a good idea. Up until now I've limited to copying my entire home-folder (hidden items included) to a server.  The link will be useful.
[12:14] <ferose> nevermind ill regester first
[12:14] <jp_> guys please help me :( when I do a: fdisk /dev/hda   I got: failed to seek on /dev/hda  how can I fix that?
[12:14] <owen_> now how do i make a partition viewable in my Places > Computer window?
[12:14] <narak_> root/dev on /dev/.static/dev failed no such dir
[12:14] <jp_> you can see this shot: http://restrex.dotgeek.org/fdisk.jpg
[12:14] <brownster> have u checked you have the right 'linux-restricted-modules' package installed for your kernel?
[12:15] <me223> jp_, could it be that you have the hard drive mounted ? try doing it off a livecd
[12:15] <TheGateKeeper> Bergcube: good luck :-)
[12:15] <azrael0> brownster: azrael@mobileDemon ~ $sudo aptitude search `uname -r`rni   linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386     - Linux kernel headers 2.6.15 on 386        rni   linux-image-2.6.15-26-386       - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.15 on 3rni   linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15 - Non-free Linux 2.6.15 modules on 386      rnazrael@mobileDemon ~ $
[12:15] <narak_> I dont speak spanish but I have the exact same problem as described here: http://www.ubuntu-es.org/node/13430
[12:15] <narak_> plz help :p
[12:15] <Bergcube> TheGateKeeper~  Thanks.  :-)
[12:16] <jp_> ugh dude I don't think so, the windows installer couldn't see partitions on that disk, on os x I can't delete the partitions too. I don't think and form live cd I couldn't too
[12:16] <new_penguin> hi i just got my ubuntu and kubuntu live cds
[12:16] <Blinker> mengoman: join #Blinker for a minute
[12:16] <mwe> azrael0: some of your characters look really ugly here. like [0010]  in a square box
[12:17] <mengoman> k
[12:17] <tsumae> is there any informatino on how openldap is installed and how to set it up the rest of the way how ubuntu does it?
[12:18] <rob_p> AndrewCaul:  You need to put, 'Option "NoLogo" "True"' in the, 'section "device"' stanza within your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.
[12:18] <Consty> I have a wireless router that uses 64 bit WEP encryption with an open key.  My windows laptop connects just fine but my ubuntu one does not.  Can anyone assist me?  Could it be because its 64bit?  Ive connected to a 128bit network before no problem.
[12:18] <justin420> anybody help with installing nvidia drivers from nvidia.com on ubuntu? x server wont start, says no screens found, but it says my screens name in the xorg.conf
[12:19] <tsumae> damn, just a channel full of noobs
[12:19] <brownster> azrael0, looks ok, what about your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file, have u read through to check its loaded the nvidia driver correctly, looked for other clues?
[12:19] <justin420> had this working on debian, but new to ubuntu, think im going to go back to debian
[12:20] <justin420> since im a newbie and all
[12:20] <justin420> :)
[12:20] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati'
[12:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about ati' - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:20] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati
[12:20] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:20] <sergiol> is there any way i can update my php without risk?
[12:20] <sergiol> i have here 5.05 and want 5.1
[12:21] <BlueEagle> sergiol: without risk? What kinds of risk are you thinking about?
[12:21] <sergiol> the risk of installing new and not getting nor new nor old working
[12:22] <me223> anyone know how i can log in as root?
[12:22] <Jack_Sparrow> use sudo
[12:22] <BlueEagle> sergiol: Are you running a developmestruction environment?
[12:22] <narak_> bleh no help? guess I will head back to debian sarge :// sucks, wanted ubuntu to work hehe
[12:22] <Jack_Sparrow> !sudo
[12:22] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:22] <Consty> I have a wireless router that uses 64 bit WEP encryption with an open key.  My windows laptop connects just fine but my ubuntu one does not.  Can anyone assist me?  Could it be because its 64bit?  Ive connected to a 128bit network before no problem.  I'm using ndiswrapper and windows drivers
[12:22] <ych> linux seems to be seeing my mouse as a 2button mouse, the middle button doesn't do anything - anyone have an idea?
[12:22] <me223> Jack_Sparrow, i want to /log in/ as root
[12:22] <sayno> me223
[12:23] <ferose2> i can help you me223
[12:23] <sayno> type su in terminal
[12:23] <atzeus> hi
[12:23] <mwe> me223: type sudo -i and you'll get a root prompt
[12:23] <ferose2> i think we means log in as root in gui
[12:23] <me223> YES THERE YA GO Fergy
[12:23] <vapermonkey> ok i got unreal 2004 to install now i dont have a ini file to load it
[12:23] <me223> :P
[12:23] <ferose2> nvm
[12:23] <ferose2> sudo su
[12:23] <ferose2> is for root in terminal
[12:23] <atzeus> I've got problems with my soundcard.. the volume is really really low
[12:23] <Jack_Sparrow> me223: then use gksudo
[12:23] <BlueEagle> sergiol: Well in most cases (I've still got 100% from the official ones) updates from the repositories will work but there's no way to be 100% sure it will work w/o trying it.
[12:23] <mwe> ferose2: sudo -i is better
[12:24] <atzeus> I already tried everything whit alsamixer and gnomemixer
[12:24] <brownster> azrael0, did u look at your Xorg log file?
[12:24] <mwe> ferose2: that's the intended way to do it
[12:24] <vapermonkey> any ideas
[12:24] <BlueEagle> atzeus: Did you adjust the PCM and main slider?
[12:24] <ferose2> anyone know how to use mountiso in gnome?
[12:24] <atzeus> yes, I've been googling for ages 2 :)
[12:24] <mwe> ferose2: mountiso?
[12:25] <BlueEagle> atzeus: Have you got an integrated and a separate sound card?
[12:25] <ferose2> its a program that mounts iso/bin/nrg files
[12:25] <atzeus> nope just the seperate
[12:25] <sergiol> BlueEagle i did aptget upgrade & update
[12:25] <sergiol> http://www.activestate.com/Products/Download/Download.plex?id=ActivePerl
[12:25] <ferose2> i need to know how to bound bin files
[12:25] <ferose2> mount*
[12:25] <mwe> ferose2: to mount an iso sudo mkdir /mnt/iso && sudo mount -o loop isofile.iso /mnt/iso
[12:25] <sergiol> for who was asking for Perl IDE
[12:25] <mwe> ferose2: oh
[12:25] <tuxtux> good night
[12:26] <slobokan> Anyone know why I keep seeing certain characters as [0096]  etc, in some apps ?
[12:26] <mwe> ferose2: yeah what I suggested doesn't work with bin files
[12:26] <drbreen_> slobokan: unicode that is
[12:26] <ferose2> thanks anyway mwe
[12:26] <BlueEagle> sergiol: ...and?
[12:26] <drbreen_> slobokan: which lnguage you speak ?
[12:26] <ferose2> i converted the bin file to an iso
[12:26] <slobokan> english
[12:26] <drbreen_> slobokan: or, more accurate: which language does your ubuntu speak
[12:27] <slobokan> english
[12:27] <sergiol> and still stays the 5.05
[12:27] <steve_Laptop> anyone have a cups print server running?
[12:27] <viksa> !mp3
[12:27] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:27] <drbreen_> 
[12:28] <drbreen_> slobokan: can you see that ? 
[12:28] <slobokan> yeah
[12:28] <AndrewCaul> steve: Is there some reson we wouldn't?
[12:28] <drbreen_> slobokan: and this one: -->  <-- (should be unicode 010A0E)
[12:29] <drbreen_> ???
[12:29] <ych> anyone know how to make my middle mouse button work? its a microsoft mouse....
[12:29] <drbreen_> ych: just plug it in ?
[12:29] <slobokan> drbreen: Yes that one is the 010A0E
[12:29] <ych> how do i plug in  a button?
[12:30] <drbreen_> slobokan: it is just a unicode character unsupported by your font - so a replacement is shown that shows you the code of the character.
[12:30] <BlueEagle> sergiol: is that with php --version or <?php php_info(); ?> ?
[12:30] <neutral> hi
[12:30] <sergiol> 5.05
[12:30] <drbreen_> slobokan: to most ppl that shouldn't be an issue. those characters are seldom used.
[12:30] <neutral> some websites have popup windows when I use firefox!  How can I stop those popups?
[12:30] <ych> ah well im too tired, ill work on it tomorrow
[12:31] <drbreen_> neutral: firefox adblock !
[12:31] <BlueEagle> sergiol: Where do you get that number?
[12:31] <sally2> what is the command to start the ubuntu desktop gui?
[12:31] <slobokan> drbreen_: yeah I see it in my bloglines tab on Firefox, a lot, and sometimes in text files from people I work with
[12:31] <Jack_Sparrow> neutral: firefox settings
[12:31] <krimzon> neutral: scriptblock also comes in handy
[12:31] <mwe> isn't it just phpinfo()
[12:31] <sergiol> phpinfo
[12:31] <atzeus> sally2: gdm
[12:31] <slobokan> drbreen_: Which font can I use that will display those correctly?  any?
[12:31] <krimzon> it disables all scripts and lets you reenable them on a per-site basis
[12:31] <atzeus> sally2: that starts the gnome window manager
[12:32] <sally2> atzeus: what is the text based package manager called because we don't think gwm is installed?
[12:32] <brownster> neutral, I use adblock but notice that some windows still pop up, they are javascript, as krimzon says you can use a script blocker too
[12:32] <sally2> i mean gdm
[12:32] <AndrewCaul> I'm back
[12:32] <duckdown> Hey all... If I wanted to restrict people on my machine from connecting to a list of regular efnet IPv4 servers (Only like 8 out of them all support IPv6 and thats all I want to allow) where can I add the list of servers I want to deny access to?
[12:32] <popey> sally2: apt-get ?
[12:32] <popey> sally2: or indeed aptitude
[12:33] <BlueEagle> sergiol: what do you do when you run this command on the server?: apt-cache showpkg php5
[12:33] <steve_Laptop> AndrewCaul I have been owrking on this thing and nothing but problems! Athorization failed I cant get past this part of setting up the printers!
[12:33] <sally2> popey: so then: sudo apt-get gdm?
[12:33] <owen_> how do you make it so the window that displays drives ect... Places > Computer displays certain partitions that its not displaying?
[12:33] <mwe> sally2: sudo aptitude install gdm
[12:33] <popey> sally2: wht are you missing gdm?
[12:33] <BlueEagle> sergiol: it should read something like (amongst a lot of other stuff) 5.1.2-1ubuntu3.1
[12:33] <treitter> how do the repositories typically prevent DOS from outsiders?
[12:33] <treitter> (esp. centralized DOS)
[12:33] <sally2> popey: it's not even installed
[12:34] <rob_p> AndrewCaul:  Did you get your nvidia splash screen thing figured out?
[12:34] <sally2> popey: we just figured this out by running gdm
[12:34] <popey> sally2: is this a satandard desktop install?
[12:34] <pinky> WHat's the command to add my username to group "camera"?
[12:34] <mwe> treitter: iptables probably
[12:34] <jrib> pinky: sudo adduser user_name camera
[12:34] <krimzon> heheh... this time i have windows as the first partition and now linux doesnt boot at all
[12:34] <treitter> mwe: iptables let you block connections from harassing IPs automatically?
[12:34] <BlueEagle> pinky: usermod to modify an existing user
[12:35] <BlueEagle> pinky: `man usermod` will give you the manual
[12:35] <sally2> popey: what happened is it's just running just a terminal
[12:35] <popey> sally2: the only reason gdm wouldn't be there is if you install kubuntu (you'd get kdm instead in that case), you'd not installed ubuntu-desktop (say you installed from a server cd for example), or you removed gdm?
[12:35] <treitter> mwe: or would the admins block them manually?
[12:35] <Jack_Sparrow> krimzon: Did you install windows after linux?
[12:35] <popey> sally2: yeah, but how did you get to this point?
[12:35] <pinky> Thanks!
[12:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub
[12:35] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:35] <steve_Laptop> how do you log in to the printserver Lynx 127.0.0.1:631?
[12:35] <mwe> treitter: iptables can do pretty advanced anylisyng
[12:35] <BlueEagle> sergiol: did you understand that?
[12:35] <treitter> mwe: awesome. Thanks!
[12:36] <mwe> treitter: it's not bullet proof of course
[12:36] <leveldoc> hi ppl
[12:36] <treitter> mwe: of course. But I would guess that it doesn't come up too often, either
[12:36] <sergiol> no
[12:36] <leveldoc> does anyone of you know anything about SATA cd burning under Linux? And, why it wouldn't work...? :(
[12:36] <sally2> popey: we don't have gdm or kdm
[12:36] <sergiol> read wtf?
[12:36] <treitter> mwe: at least relative to overwhelming legitimate traffic
[12:36] <popey> sally2: yes, how did you get to that point? did you install from the live cd?
[12:37] <sally2> popey: so we're trying to use the sudo command to apt-get the package, but it keeps asking to change the cd, even though we have access to the internet
[12:37] <mwe> treitter: yeah. the repos have been rather slow lately though. I think they need more bandwidth
[12:37] <BlueEagle> steve_laptop: there's a printer manager buildt into gnome.
[12:37] <sally2> popey: aww, i see.  Someone had already installed ubuntu, so we started with just the terminal.  We were not the ones who did the installation
[12:37] <popey> sally2: I'm trying to understand how you got to the point of "not having gdm"
[12:37] <drbreen_> slobokan: ont know
[12:37] <mwe> treitter: I switched to using a mirror instead
[12:37] <popey> sally2: do you not have the cd anymore?
[12:37] <zoidberg> hey guys
[12:38] <sally2> popey: yes, i think we're just gonna re install cause we don't have a history of how it got to this point
[12:38] <steve_Laptop> BlueEagle, this is a server and no GUI
[12:38] <treitter> mwe: I hadn't noticed too badly. But I always just update in the background :)
[12:38] <zoidberg> do you guys remember the webpage for upgrading badger to dapper?
[12:38] <jrib> !upgrade
[12:38] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[12:38] <popey> sally2: well, if you insert the cd, and do "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" it should install everything you need off the cd
[12:38] <steve_Laptop> BlueEagle, Im starting to think its a bug in cups
[12:38] <mwe> treitter: you dont see security.ubuntu.com being dead slow?
[12:38] <popey> sally2: if you want to use the internet and not the cd then you can use "sudo apt-setup" to configure where apt- gets its stuff from
[12:39] <SurfnKid> whats a good channel for network questions
[12:39] <yoni> Hi all
[12:39] <yoni> my system is down :\
[12:39] <Jack_Sparrow> level sata burner here works fine.. plextor..
[12:39] <treitter> mwe: oh, yeah. I think I saw that the other day
[12:39] <AndrewCaul> rob_p: I added the line but I haven't tested it yet.
[12:39] <Jack_Sparrow> leveldoc: sata burner works fine Plextor
[12:39] <james_M> are there no IDE lovers left?
[12:39] <yoni> After I installed NVIDA module, when X is run, it shows me the nvidsia logo & then it goes off & I can see my X background without anything in it, how can I fix it?
[12:40] <shwag> if something is in cron.daily ...what time of the day does it run ?
[12:40] <yoni> ATM I'm on sirc...
[12:40] <leveldoc> Jack_Sparrow: well mine doesn't... :(
[12:40] <yoni> please help me :\
[12:40] <popey> shwag: 4am usually i think
[12:40] <sally2> popey: sounds good.  Were gonna try the sudo...from the cd.  If that doesn't work, then get it from the net. if that doesn't work, complete reinsall
[12:40] <popey> heh
[12:40] <popey> good plan
[12:40] <leveldoc> I'm using k3b, and it keeps telling me that there are I/O errors
[12:41] <Jack_Sparrow> leveldoc: at least you now know someone got it working...  Didnt need anything, it just worked
[12:41] <popey> shwag: no, sorry, 06:25 here
[12:41] <yoni> :(
[12:41] <leveldoc> ok, thanks
[12:41] <yoni> p.s I can see my mouse pointer :\
[12:41] <popey> shwag: you can find out by typing "grep daily /etc/crontab"
[12:41] <shwag> popey, where do you tell ?
[12:41] <shwag> ok
[12:41] <yoni> Anywhere that I can see logs about what's broken?
[12:41] <popey> shwag: look at the first two columns, minutes, hours.
[12:41] <steve_Laptop> This server see's the printer and I tab to add Printer and then get Authorization Failed grrrr
[12:41] <brownster> yoni, have u rebooted since installing the module?
[12:41] <yoni> yep
[12:41] <yoni> 4 times :|
[12:42] <owen_> what directory is something located if it says its location is computer:/// ?
[12:42] <steve_Laptop> im sooooo lost with this damn thing
[12:42] <brownster> yoni, oh dear, you got a greyish desktop with nowt else?
[12:42] <Jack_Sparrow> leveldoc: I have k3b but I have not tried it, I just use the menu that is offered when I pop in a blank..
[12:42] <shwag> popey, 4:02am here.
[12:42] <yoni> exaclly :|
[12:42] <yoni> else of my pointer, he's there :)
[12:43] <popey> shwag: interesting, my debian box is 06:25 and so is my ubuntu laptop
[12:43] <brownster> yoni, well then, I dont know what your complaining about, thats all ive had for six months...
[12:43] <shwag> popey, redhat enterprise
[12:43] <sally2> popey: installing from the cd seems to be working, thanks :)
[12:43] <leveldoc> Jack_Sparrow: thanks, I'll try that
[12:43] <popey> sally2: excellent news!
[12:43] <shwag> popey, ubuntu is debian derived...so makes sense.
[12:43] <yoni> brownster, how can I fix it?:\
[12:43] <popey> :)
[12:44] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[12:44] <brownster> yoni, im trying to remember!
[12:44] <yoni> kk, thanks :)
[12:44] <n3t0> in aptitude have something similar to apt-build?
[12:45] <owen_> where are the .device files located in?
[12:45] <brownster> yoni, lets work through it, is it a new install of ubuntu?
[12:45] <yoni> no
[12:45] <yoni> I installed it yesturday & plaied with it a lot
[12:46] <brownster> yoni, ok, so you decided to use the nvidia binary drivers, did u follow the howto on the ubuntu wiki?
[12:46] <minerale> wow, Intel has open sourced the drivers for its graphic drivers... anyone else excited?
[12:46] <yoni> yes
[12:46] <yoni> I have a card that match nvidia-glx
[12:46] <brownster> ouch!
[12:47] <popey> oops
[12:47] <brownster> :D
[12:47] <yoni> why?:\
[12:47] <popey> :
[12:47] <popey> :)
[12:47] <brownster> lol
[12:47] <brownster> yoni, did u follow the howto?
[12:47] <yoni> yes
[12:48] <yoni> but then I got the next err msg:
[12:48] <yoni> "Your X configuration has been altered!" "This script cannot procceed automaticlly..."
[12:49] <popey> yoni: do you have backups of xorg.conf in /etc/X11/ ?
[12:49] <Daishi> im going to buy a laptop soon and i was wondering if theres any sort of compatibility list for ubuntu
[12:49] <Daishi> i mean im sure most stuff will work
[12:49] <specialbuddy> is there a program for linux that is like mac's front row?
[12:49] <popey> yoni: it's possible you could reset it back and then run the setup again?
[12:49] <popey> Daishi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[12:50] <yoni> don't think so.. :\
[12:50] <yoni> the only backups i have its from the vi
[12:50] <nixbox> hi all
[12:50] <nixbox> is there a way by which i can remotely be able to access the "console"? When I SSH to a Linux system, its not actually the console which i have access to, can the console only be accessed through serial port or from the system itself (by pressing Alt+F1 etc.) ?
[12:50] <yoni> .swn & .swo & .swp
[12:50] <popey> yoni:  i don't know how it determines whether the file has been changed
[12:50] <popey> yoni: you could reset it by running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and follow the prompts, use the normal nv driver
[12:50] <yoni> it talled me to change manually the video card driver from nv to nvidia
[12:51] <yoni> it's can be cool :)
[12:51] <yoni> @ least its will work :)
[12:51] <popey> yoni: then use the script, if that fails again run dpkg-reconfigure again and choose nvidia?
[12:51] <specialbuddy> is there a program for linux that is like mac's front row?
[12:51] <yoni> kk will do, thanks a lot
[12:51] <popey> specialbuddy: what is front row?
[12:51] <popey> yoni, no problem
[12:51] <specialbuddy> it's just for media
[12:52] <popey> specialbuddy:  playing music / dvd / mp3 etc? that kind of thing?
[12:52] <specialbuddy> well yeat but it's just something that comes up for everything
[12:52] <popey> specialbuddy: i guess freevo and mythtv are two candidates
[12:52] <specialbuddy> haven't heard of freevo yet
[12:52] <popey> free-tivo
[12:52] <specialbuddy> are there bluetooth remote controls
[12:52] <specialbuddy> ?
[12:52] <popey> that's where the name derived from
[12:53] <popey> dunno, there are infra red ones
[12:53] <specialbuddy> yeah
[12:53] <popey> oh, no actually, you o can control with a bluetooth phone I think
[12:53] <popey> or ipaq or something
[12:53] <popey> i heard about it but haven't tried it myself
[12:53] <specialbuddy> is freevo better then mythtv
[12:53] <popey> depends who you ask :)
[12:53] <popey> better in that it's probably easier to setup and get going quickly
[12:53] <specialbuddy> yeah I have a bluetooth phone but I don't think it will work because it's a razr and I haven't found much for it
[12:53] <starscream[1] > Hi all, could anyone point me in the right direction to download the ATI Distribution specific package for Dapper 64 bit?
[12:53] <popey> mythtv is probably more feature packed
[12:54] <sc0tt> um
[12:54] <popey> err
[12:54] <sc0tt> mintim3 = onjoin spam
[12:54] <popey> !ops
[12:54] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[12:54] <jbroome> still?
[12:54] <nalioth> popey: yes?
[12:54] <jvai> hey uall, sorry i'm late
[12:54] <shwag> where are user crontabs "installed' to ?
[12:54] <popey> mintim3: is onjoin spammer
[12:54] <owen_> does anyone know where the .device files are located (the configuration files that tell the computer window what drives to display) ?
[12:54] <nalioth> ah
[12:54] <sc0tt> :] 
[12:54] <jvai> aaah
[12:54] <ompaul> nalioth, that guy that is being complained about need k help
[12:55] <ompaul> hehe
[12:55] <jvai> dell lappy's
[12:55] <starscream[1] > Anyone here know where I can get the ATI Distribution specific package for Dapper 64 bit please?
[12:56] <rcmiv> are there any ssh experts in here?
[12:56] <popey> rcmiv: ask away
[12:56] <Amaranth> d'oh
[12:56] <Amaranth> interesting, lag
[12:56] <sc0tt> I need some help with setting up dualscreen's with an nvidia card
[12:56] <sc0tt> :(
[12:56] <rsk> :(
[12:57] <rcmiv> suppose I would like to ssh into my ubuntu machine (sitting right next to me), and output
[12:57] <Amaranth> who did i ban?
[12:57] <sc0tt>  Amaranth sets ban on *!*@c-24-8-76-161.hsd1.co.comcast.net
[12:57] <rcmiv> the video on that local machine's monitor?
[12:57] <popey> sc0tt: twinview?
[12:57] <BlueEagle> steve_laptop: I see. Well iirc the web interface is blocked. There's some config in /etc/cups/ you need to alter.
[12:57] <Amaranth> sc0tt: I know, I don't know who that goes to though.
[12:57] <sc0tt> popey, i want to horizontal span both screens
[12:57] <yoni> rofl
[12:57] <sc0tt> :o
[12:57] <jvai> how do i make the ubuntu install an ISO cd? like how i have it config'd
[12:57] <sc0tt> lol Amaranth :D
[12:57] <popey> rcmiv: you want to graphically remotely control another machine?
[12:58] <popey> sc0tt: yes, that's twinview on nvidia
[12:58] <sc0tt> :>
[12:58] <yoni> After I auth. to the system I cant see my desktop :\
[12:58] <rcmiv> popey, sort of -
[12:58] <sc0tt> on windoze its called horiztonal span :P
[12:58] <rcmiv> I am aware of vnc, synergy, etc...
[12:58] <popey> that's the generic name
[12:58] <sc0tt> okay
[12:58] <popey> twinview is nvidias name for it
[12:58] <sc0tt> :)
[12:58] <sc0tt> How can i do it then? :>
[12:58] <popey> and it's different
[12:58] <sc0tt> I have nvidia's drivers installed
[12:58] <popey> no idea, love to know myself, :)
[12:58] <sc0tt> lol
[12:58] <specialbuddy> has anyone seen bluetooth controllers
[12:58] <Hexidigital_> !twinview
[12:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about twinview - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:59] <steve_Laptop> BlueEagle, I have edited my XXX off and have no clue what to edit anymore could you tell me what needs to be edited? and change it to what?
[12:59] <fr500> rcmiv: what exactly do you want?
[12:59] <jvai> how do i make the ubuntu install an ISO cd? like how i have it configuration & all
[12:59] <sc0tt> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174
[12:59] <sc0tt> i folled that
[12:59] <sc0tt> er
[12:59] <sc0tt> followed*
[12:59] <sc0tt> didn't work tho
[12:59] <sc0tt> :(
[12:59] <specialbuddy> has anyone seen bluetooth controllers?
[12:59] <rcmiv> popey, just want to ssh in, and X11 port forward -to that machine's display- make any sense?
[01:00] <popey> sc0tt: did you follow the xinerama or twinview bits?
[01:00] <Jack_Sparrow> jvai: You dont
[01:00] <popey> rcmiv: yes, ssh -X
[01:00] <fr500> rcmiv: you want XDMCP? or app forwarding?
[01:00] <Jack_Sparrow> jvai: You can backup everything into a single tar
[01:00] <jvai> ?? why .. is it the fact that it may be too large?
[01:00] <steve_Laptop> BlueEagle, yes I no its some thing in /etc/cups/cups.conf
[01:00] <popey> rcmiv: you need to edit the /etc/ssh/sshd.conf to allow x forwarding, restart the ssh daemon (/etc/init.d/ssh restart) and that's it
[01:00] <jvai> ooooh
[01:00] <ompaul> mako, you about?
[01:00] <SurfnKid>  how can i find out how many hops between IPs before I hit my external public IP
[01:01] <jvai> into a single tar, then burn to a cd?
[01:01] <JackONeill> !ln
[01:01] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[01:01] <popey> SurfnKid: traceroute?
[01:01] <rcmiv> popey, yes -X which forwards back to my X server on my remote machine, not to X on the local machine
[01:01] <zoidberg> hey guys i have a question
[01:01] <troytroy> i was just building native pkg and got this error "no x install" any clues
[01:01] <finrod> Is vesafb-tng patched out of the kernel in the ubuntu-sources? It seems gone o_o
[01:01] <ompaul> nalioth, that is our friend again
[01:01] <zoidberg> where do you extract the THEMES for FLUXBOX?
[01:01] <Jack_Sparrow> jvai: You can research remastering.  The knoppix site has some good info on it.  I have a script for remastering Ubuntu but it is not for distribution yet.
[01:01] <yoni> lolllllllllll
[01:01] <yoni> I findout what was my problem :P
[01:01] <mc44> what shell comand can i use to rename on mass things of the format "xy,12.jpg" to "xy.jpg"?
[01:01] <yoni> *found
[01:02] <zoidberg> ?
[01:02] <jvai> ok.. cant wait, does knopix 4 have mkisofs?
[01:02] <zoidberg> anyone?
[01:02] <yoni> I somehow uninstalled or broke gnome rofllll
[01:02] <popey> oops
[01:02] <zoidberg> does anyone know where to download the themes for FLUXBOX...where do u put them?
[01:02] <yoni> this is the reason I couldn't get anything after succefully auth. :)
[01:02] <SurfnKid> popey, yes but my ISP has that blocked , it wont return trace acknowledgment packets, so, im thinking if there is a website like checkip.dyndns.org that says, you hopped 3 times before reaching to this IP i.e "183.48.33.153"
[01:02] <jvai> ty j.sparrow
[01:03] <zoidberg> anyone?
[01:03] <sc0tt> brb
[01:03] <SurfnKid> Im fixing a double nat network where tey want to use VoIP
[01:03] <yoni> brb
[01:03] <jrib> mc44: rename 's/,\d*\.//' *.jpg               I think, try it with -n first
[01:03] <yoni> exit
[01:03] <rcmiv> popey, so basically ssh -X but forward graphics to the local Xserver, no my remote one
[01:04] <popey> rcmiv: not sure I understand
[01:04] <mc44> jrib: thanks - but that misses the dot before the jpg out
[01:04] <jrib> mc44: oh, yeah, put that back in then :)
[01:04] <mc44> jrib: how do I do that?
[01:04] <jrib> mc44: s/,\d*\././'
[01:05] <sc0tt> bwaha
[01:05] <sc0tt> works
[01:05] <sc0tt> :>
[01:05] <popey> :)
[01:05] <sc0tt> only problem is
[01:05] <sc0tt> panels only go over one screen
[01:05] <sc0tt> :P
[01:05] <popey> right, I'm going to try twinview now :)
[01:05] <Tama00> hi
[01:06] <mc44> jrib: eek that seems to put a random number in  like xy.3.jpg
[01:06] <Trae> heh
[01:06] <Trae> hey
[01:06] <Trae> man
[01:06] <lophyte> hey :)
[01:06] <sc0tt> Anyone know how to make the panels span both screens?
[01:06] <Tama00> i was just wondering if it is possible to redirect ip address and ports
[01:06] <Trae> I can't stand MORON hosting providers that don't allow for shell access
[01:06] <jrib> mc44: the files still look like xy,12.jpg right?
[01:07] <vicscandl> !cellphone
[01:07] <ubotu> I know nothing about cellphone - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:07] <mc44> jrib: yeah i used -n
[01:07] <harisund> Hello! Could somebody give me a handy link for how to work with the ssh-agent over the commandline? I have never done that before ..
[01:07] <Tama00> say i from my home pc wants to connect to an outside address on ip xxx.xxx.xxx.xx:9999
[01:07] <sc0tt> ha
[01:07] <Trae> I prefer to do all of my development either in SVN first... or cvs, but if that doesn't work then via ssh over on the site with vim.  These guys allow none of that
[01:07] <sc0tt> i just added more panels
[01:07] <sc0tt> lol
[01:07] <Tama00> i want it to redirect to another ip when connecting on that port
[01:07] <syzygy7> Is anyone familiar with wireless configurations on linux? I'm using ndiswrapper with a dell 1370 wireless card, it only works if my router is set on wap security...trying to find the cause of this
[01:07] <Trae> sorry I'm OT
[01:07] <syzygy7> *wpa
[01:07] <lophyte> Trae: bummer
[01:07] <mc44> jrib: rename -n s/,\d*\././ *.jpg
[01:08] <Darkfoxx>  hey all...simple question: How do I set the firewall to let it know that wlan0 is an external interface, and allow it to pass traffic?
[01:08] <jrib> mc44: hmm make sure you put the quotes around the s// part
[01:08] <mc44> jrib: ahha
[01:08] <mc44> jrib: Thanks! you saved me alot of time :)
[01:08] <jrib> mc44: np
[01:09] <Tama00> anyone/
[01:09] <sambagirl> does seveas still involved with ubuntu?
[01:09] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[01:09] <sambagirl> ok thanks
[01:10] <rapha> Hi all!
[01:10] <sc0tt> popey, its snappy and fast as hell
[01:10] <sc0tt> :>
[01:10] <rapha> Does the new Apple Mighty Mouse Bluetooth work under Linux?
[01:10] <alex_> hi
[01:10] <Trae> bah stupid xchat
[01:10] <boolka>  Hi, how do I change the font color on the toolbars on my desktop?
[01:10] <axolx> anyone familiar on how to create an initrd image to boot a system with root on LVM2? im really stuck :(
[01:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Darkfoxx: You need to install a firewall manager/ iptable manager  like firestarter or guarddog
[01:10] <popey> sc0tt: excellent
[01:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !firewall
[01:10] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[01:10] <rob_p> Darkfoxx:  What are you trying to accomplish?  Do you even have a firewall configured?  By default, all traffic will flow over all interfaces, unimpeded.
[01:10] <alex_> this thing is so stupid
[01:10] <popey> sc0tt: gonna have to buy me a second screen now ! Thanks!
[01:10] <sc0tt> popey, for the panels, just add two more panels, one top, one bottom on the second screen :>
[01:10] <Darkfoxx> yeh i installed a firewall when i installed Ubuntu
[01:11] <Darkfoxx> now im trying to get my wireless card to punch through the firewall
[01:11] <sc0tt> is there a package of common codecs btw, such as divx,xvid etc?
[01:11] <jvai> how do i get my swap space back aftr a bad hibernation? it reads "0% nan" now
[01:11] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell sc0tt about restricted
[01:11] <sc0tt> ty
[01:11] <BlueEagle> sc0tt: np
[01:11] <sc0tt> :>
[01:11] <sc0tt> btw
[01:11] <alex_> so how r u ppl
[01:12] <sc0tt> i installed kubuntu on some relatives machines last week
[01:12] <sc0tt> most machines were around amd k6-2 500mhz/256ram
[01:12] <rob_p> Darkfoxx:  Which firewall configurator did you use?
[01:12] <sc0tt> and it worked fine and well
[01:12] <sc0tt> :)
[01:12] <azrael0> Does anyone know a command similar to gentoo's emerge -e world for apt?
[01:13] <brendan> anyone know how to set up interfaces to configure inet and inet6 on the same device?
[01:13] <Darkfoxx> rob_p: um...none? I just selected Firewall when i installed
[01:13] <Evz> I need yo install gstreamer? Ubuntu
[01:13] <Evz> Who can help me?
[01:13] <rsk> Evz: help with that?
[01:13] <naut> something keeps overwriting my resolv.conf file
[01:13] <rsk> Evz: its in the repos
[01:13] <syzygy7> Evz, synaptic can do that
[01:13] <sally2> popey: IT WORKED!  WOOT!
[01:14] <naut> and I have no idea what is doing it
[01:14] <Evz> what's that?
[01:14] <steve_Laptop> can someone tell me how to purge and reinstall cupsys?
[01:14] <syzygy7> Evz: a package installer/manager
[01:14] <popey> sally2: excellent!
[01:14] <Darkfoxx> rob_p: shall I give you some background info on what i'm doing?
[01:14] <Evz> Where is it?
[01:14] <ardchoille> can-o-worms: Maybe I should read which how-to?
[01:14] <rob_p> Darkfoxx:  Yes.  That would be helpful.
[01:14] <syzygy7> Evz: system/administration/synaptic
[01:15] <syzygy7> Evz: you will need root password
[01:15] <jrib> steve_Laptop: there are instructions in /usr/share/doc/cupsys/README.Debian.gz for setting up the web interface.  It's at the bottom of the document
[01:15] <ravenous> man i dont get this i had to 'mark all upgrades', and it upgraded totem and totem-gstreamer, uninstalled totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin, and now it wont reinstall because it says totem-gstreamer is too new .. wth?
[01:15] <zoidberg> hey guys how do you extract tarballs from the terminal?
[01:15] <jrib> !tar.gz
[01:15] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde)
[01:15] <Evz> how?
[01:15] <syzygy7> Evz: what do you mean?
[01:15] <jrib> zoidberg: tar xvzf file.tar.gz
[01:15] <Darkfoxx> rob_p: Ok, I'm installing NdisWrapper http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Installation
[01:15] <Jonaid> hello fellow Ubuntu-ers! I have a problem/annoyance. I'm using an application but everytime i load it it doesn't load up as root and i can't seem to find it on gksudo. How do i get to run it in terminal or as root from GNOME?
[01:15] <steve_Laptop> jrib, I have read it and read it and 10 times
[01:15] <naut> What processes might overwrite the resolv.conf file?
[01:15] <steve_Laptop> jrib, no luck at all
[01:16] <Evz> my root password?
[01:16] <ravenous> Jonaid: from terminal gksudo programname
[01:16] <syzygy7> Evz: its the password you use to log on to your system
[01:16] <Evz> Where do i get that?
[01:16] <jrib> !root > Evz
[01:16] <Darkfoxx> rob_p: I got the card to use the drivers and everyhting, but the card can't access my router to get the DHCP addy because of the firewall in linux
[01:16] <Evz> my user's password?
[01:16] <syzygy7> Evz: yes
[01:16] <duckdown> Hey all... If I wanted to restrict people on my machine from connecting to a list of regular efnet IPv4 servers (Only like 8 out of them all support IPv6 and thats all I want to allow) where can I add the list of servers I want to deny access to?
[01:16] <rob_p> Darkfoxx:  I'm not convinced that you have an *active* firewall configured.
[01:17] <Evz> so... Root and then my password?
[01:17] <syzygy7> Darkfoxx: are you sure its the firewall, i have the same problem, my card only works with wpa turned on
[01:17] <micahcowan> Evz, no, just your normal login password.
[01:17] <micahcowan> Forget the root stuff.
[01:17] <zoidberg> how do i extract a tar.bz2 file from the terminal
[01:17] <synic> tar -jzxvf
[01:17] <zoidberg> tar xvzf file doesnt work
[01:17] <jvai> dl firestartr & set it to do "dhcp"
[01:17] <syzygy7> Evz: no, just start synaptic and see for yourself
[01:17] <synic> er..
[01:17] <ardchoille> tar xjf file.tar.bz2
[01:17] <sc0tt> tar -xvjf file.bz
[01:17] <synic> tar -jxvf
[01:17] <sc0tt> oh
[01:17] <Evz> instead my user name should  i put just ROOT?
[01:17] <sc0tt> heh
[01:17] <sc0tt> :>
[01:17] <Darkfoxx> syzygy7: I see
[01:17] <micahcowan> Evz, it won't ask for a user name. Just your password.
[01:18] <yoni> Hi all
[01:18] <syzygy7> Evz: its only going to ask for a password
[01:18] <Evz> where?
[01:18] <phanatic> hey people
[01:18] <yoni> how can I install kde support to my Ubuntu drake?
[01:18] <phanatic> /dev/sda7 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[01:18] <jrib> steve_Laptop: oh, I've never had to set it up myself.  I believe all people have needed to do is add cupsys to the shadow group.  If you really want to try purging it, sudo apt-get remove --purge package_name
[01:18] <phanatic> how to hail this one?
[01:18] <phanatic> i cannot write to my hard disk
[01:18] <jrib> yoni: do you actually want kde, or do you just want to usea  kde program?
[01:18] <Darkfoxx> rob_p: I figured it was the firewall that was restricting access to my wireless card.
[01:18] <rob_p> Darkfoxx:  Ubuntu, like most other distros, has iptables, which is a command line configuration tool used to establish firewall rules, policies, etc.  But, until you use it to configure a firewall, you have no packet filtering.
[01:18] <yoni> kde kde :)
[01:19] <yoni> the platform
[01:19] <Darkfoxx> rgr
[01:19] <jrib> !kde > yoni
[01:19] <Darkfoxx> rob_p: Any suggestions on getting my card to communicate with my router?
[01:19] <steve_Laptop> jrib, its got to be a bad file or somthing fish here Im no newbie in linux other the ubuntu I was a fedora man
[01:19] <yoni> P.S what are the most big diiffarents between gnome & kde?
[01:19] <jvai> the ping command, darkfox
[01:20] <jvai> ping the routr
[01:20] <syzygy7> Darkfoxx: I agree with rob_p, even dough i'm not too familiar with linux, my connectivity works fine, the only problem i have is when i try to connect without the wpa secuity.
[01:20] <Darkfoxx> I tried
[01:20] <jvai> *router
[01:20] <syzygy7> Darkfoxx: try setting the wpa security on
[01:20] <Darkfoxx> syzygy7: Now where would I set this?
[01:20] <syzygy7> Darkfoxx: the router itself
[01:20] <jvai> open the terminl, type 'sudo tcpdump -vv' that double v's
[01:21] <rob_p> Darkfoxx:  Unfortunately, I have never used ndiswrapper and hence, have never had to troubleshoot wireless issues involved with it.
[01:21] <Darkfoxx> np
[01:21] <syzygy7> Darkfoxx: I suggest you have a land connection dough, if you mess up the wireless, you'd have to reset the router
[01:21] <jvai> the nu can "see" the network traffic
[01:21] <starscream[1] > grrrr this is doing my head in. Can anyone help me with ATI drivers and Dapper 64bit?
[01:21] <starscream[1] > pretty pretty please :)
[01:22] <Darkfoxx> i get a warning "wlan0: no IPv4 address assigned
[01:22] <rcmiv> popey, I know, it makes no sense; ssh -X foo, gedit, gedit displays on foo's monitor
[01:22] <jvai> ipv6 u must be defaulting to
[01:22] <james_M> darkfoxx, what's your chipset?
[01:22] <syzygy7> Darkfoxx: also, make sure that your card operates at the same channel as the router itself use the "iwlist" command to see which channel your card is on, then set the router accordingly
[01:22] <syzygy7> not sure if my card scans for channels automaticaly
[01:22] <popey> rcmiv: you need to export the display variable
[01:23] <rob_p> Darkfoxx:  What does, "iwconfig wlan0" give you?  Does your access point show up in the output?
[01:23] <popey> rcmiv: maybe not, works here
[01:24] <Darkfoxx> jvai: how do i get out of tcpdump?
[01:24] <rcmiv> popey, so how are you doing it...
[01:24] <GTX> Darkfoxx, ctrl + c
[01:24] <popey> i just did ssh -X to my wifes pc, and typed gedit, gedit popped up on my machine here
[01:24] <micahcowan> phanatic, what's the output of "dmesg"?
[01:24] <Darkfoxx> ty
[01:24] <neutral> some websites have popup windows when I use firefox!  How can I stop those certain few popups?   I have popups disabled in firefox, but it seems some popups are immune to this feature in firefox!  Any fix pls?
[01:24] <jvai> press "CTRL then the Ckey
[01:24] <popey> neutral: i think there's a popup blocker extension
[01:24] <rcmiv> popey, no, exactly...that's what it's supposed to do, and does nicely...my question
[01:25] <zoidberg> guys i have a problem
[01:25] <rcmiv> ...is, how to make it display on your wife's monitor
[01:25] <Darkfoxx> rob_p: no, the access point is a bunch of 0's
[01:25] <zoidberg> for some reason my onboard soundcard might not be working
[01:25] <zoidberg> and i dont know why
[01:25] <zoidberg> ?
[01:25] <phanatic> micahcowan: looks pretty bad, i'll paste it to a pastebin
[01:25] <rob_p> Darkfoxx:  Have you configured wlan0 settings in /etc/network/interfaces file?
[01:25] <neutral> popey: I also installed a popup blocker extension, but some websites still seem to be able to have popups!  any ideas?
[01:25] <popey> rcmiv: ahh, under her login or mine?
[01:25] <zoidberg> its a PII 350 MHZ dell optiplex
[01:25] <popey> neutral: don't surf? :D
[01:25] <Darkfoxx> rob_p: let me check
[01:25] <valehru> !php
[01:25] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[01:25] <jvai> lol
[01:25] <popey> zoidberg: alsamixer - make sure it's not muted?
[01:25] <neutral> popey: I dont like sharks and water! I dont surf anyway
[01:25] <zoidberg> can someone help me work my sound card?
[01:25] <zoidberg> how do i do that?
[01:25] <jp_> hi guys  when I do a fdisk /dev/hda I got that my hard disk has more than 1024  cylinders, exactly 38703, that's why I can't delete my ntfs partitions (or any) and I thnk that's the reason I can't list the table partition (fdisk -l) please help me guys!!!! :(
[01:26] <rcmiv> popey, exactly the prob, I am just triying to puzzle that bit out...possibly not possible
[01:26] <popey> zoidberg: open a terminal and run alsamixer, make sure nothing is muted
[01:26] <rob_p> Darkfoxx:  It should have, at a minimum, the essid of your access point in it's config stanza.
[01:26] <rcmiv> popey, like anit-vnc
[01:26] <BlueEagle> jp_: sudo fdisk -l
[01:26] <popey> rcmiv: oh it's possible, trying to figure out your scenario
[01:26] <jp_> http://restrex.dotgeek.org/fdisk.jpg if you want to see
[01:26] <phanatic> micahcowan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20154
[01:26] <Kyja> any body up for a sugestion for me
[01:26] <jp_> BlueEagle: http://restrex.dotgeek.org/fdisk.jpg see, I already did that
[01:27] <Darkfoxx> rob_p: Nope, it just says "auto lo iface lo inet loopback"
[01:27] <rcmiv> popey, thanks for your help, it's appreciatedc
[01:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask
[01:27] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:27] <BlueEagle> jp_: no you didn't
[01:27] <BlueEagle> jp_: you did: fdisk -l
[01:27] <BlueEagle> jp_: not: sudo fdisk -l
[01:27] <Kyja> hehe thx
[01:27] <jvai> how do i get my swap space back aftr a bad hibernation? it reads "0% nan" now
[01:27] <popey> rcmiv: so what's the scenario. your wifes pc (for example) is turned on (!) and you want something to appear on the screen there?
[01:27] <rob_p> Darkfoxx:  Put, "wireless-essid <essid>" in your wlan0 config stanza.
[01:27] <BlueEagle> jp_: spot the difference?
[01:27] <jp_> I did that under the root account BlueEagle
[01:27] <popey> rcmiv: it's logged on as another user?
[01:27] <micahcowan> phanatic, doesn't look good... looks like a buggered hard-drive to me.
[01:27] <zoidberg> it says this : "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device"
[01:28] <BlueEagle> jp_: ahh, I see.
[01:28] <micahcowan> phanatic, You say you can't write to /home even though it's mounted rw? is it on the same drive?
[01:28] <rcmiv> popey, the more I think it out, the less sense it makes...probably just need to use synergy
[01:28] <Kyja> ok. I have hp pavilion zd8000 with the built in 802.11g .. it reconizes it but wont activate and power it up.
[01:28] <Blinker> does anyone know if its possible to configure a laptop's SVID out under ubuntu for display on a tv? if so is there a way to select which desktop gets displayed, etc?
[01:28] <popey> zoidberg: what does lspci report your sound card as?
[01:28] <Jack_Sparrow> jp_: Root account... in Ubuntu?
[01:28] <troytroy> !ubotu kernel compile
[01:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about kernel compile - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:28] <jp_> so? who knows? noone know?
[01:28] <phanatic> micahcowan: yeah, it's the same drive physically
[01:28] <gregg__> jp_: indeed looks like a broken harddisk
[01:28] <phanatic> micahcowan: it's /dev/sda6 actually
[01:28] <BlueEagle> jp_: but fdisk -l shouldn't have /dev/hda after it
[01:28] <BlueEagle> ...or a scsi or sata disk
[01:28] <popey> Blinker: depends on the laptop
[01:28] <jp_> Jack_Sparrow: no, at debian, but it's the same, fdisk is always the same :) I tested the same at ubuntu live, it's the same dude
[01:28] <troytroy> !ubotu kernel
[01:28] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[01:28] <valehru> gah...My browser keeps trying to save the PHP files......help would be nice with LAMP!
[01:29] <zoidberg> i actually dont see the motherboard soudncard there?
[01:29] <valehru> Suggestions welcome
[01:29] <popey> valehru: sounds like apache isn't interpreting the php files, possibly the libapache-php not installed?
[01:29] <Blinker> popey: inspiron 6000 using ATI M300
[01:29] <jp_> is there an advanced ubuntu users channel here? Please give me the name of that channel, I need it :) Im not getting serius help here, just noobs. Sorry.
[01:29] <rcmiv> popey, wife's pc turned on, logged in as (all accounts are the same user name)...window appears on her screen
[01:29] <micahcowan> phanatic, I'm afraid I believe your drive is gone :-(
[01:29] <rob_p> Darkfoxx:  Are you using encryption on your access point?  If so, I'd suggest temporarily disabling it until you can establish connectivity.  Then re-enable it.
[01:29] <phanatic> micahcowan: i didn't have problems with this drive until now...
[01:29] <popey> Blinker: not tried ATI personally, but I'm sure if you search for ATI and tv-out on ubuntuforums you'll find some help?
[01:29] <phanatic> micahcowan: oh :(
[01:29] <zoidberg> ?
[01:29] <Jack_Sparrow> jp_: Agree fdisk is the same...  Just questioned the OS and root account
[01:29] <NaraShikamaru> why won't anyone tell me what the freakin difference is between zenwalk and ubuntu, plz tell me.... :|
[01:30] <sc0tt> Anyone know if there have been any XGL packages created?
[01:30] <phanatic> micahcowan: great feeling to still be able to chat :)
[01:30] <ravenous> nobody knows wtf zenwalk is
[01:30] <BlueEagle> jp_: I assume you're disk is on the ide bus and not the sata or scsi bus... and if you don't want our help then don't take it. :)
[01:30] <mcphail> valehru: php4 or 5?
[01:30] <rcmiv> popey, thanks for your time, I think I will just investigate other options for virtual kvm
[01:30] <syzygy7> Nara.. its all a matter of perspective.. everyone has their own taste
[01:30] <BlueEagle> jp_: No need to start with name calling.
[01:30] <micahcowan> phanatic: what were the last few things you did before this happened?
[01:30] <mwe> !xgl > sc0tt
[01:30] <popey> rcmiv: ok, you need to think about "Xauthority" I think. There's some monkeying around you do after logging in that lets you spawn gui apps on the machine you've logged into
[01:30] <sc0tt> ty
[01:30] <vicscandl> rcmiv: try vnc
[01:30] <popey> rcmiv: no, it's definately possible
[01:30] <ravenous> ubuntu is actually known? popular?
[01:30] <Darkfoxx> rob_p: I'd have to chekc, but I don't think so. I'm editing the interfaces file now in vi. So I'd enter "wireless-essid MSHOME"?
[01:30] <gregg__> jp_: just curious, does this work? dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/null bs=512 count=1
[01:30] <popey> rcmiv: i just need to google for the incantation - it's not painful
[01:30] <phanatic> micahcowan: just a file search in nautilus. it began after that
[01:30] <valehru> mcphail, 5
[01:30] <zoidberg> guys i cant seem to get my PII 35- mhx 128 ram dell inspiron ONBOARD SOUNDCARD to get recognized?
[01:31] <zoidberg> anyhelp?
[01:31] <mcphail> valehru: have you types "sudo a2enmod php5"?
[01:31] <rcmiv> popey, yeah it can be done...I know X is agnostic regarding where it sends the graphics
[01:31] <vicscandl> !vnc > vicscandl
[01:31] <jp_> BlueEagle: yep. I thank you your efforts, but is there an advanced users channel on this net? Thanks dude
[01:31] <rob_p> Darkfoxx:  Yes.  If, "MSHOME" is your access point's essid.
[01:31] <Darkfoxx> yep
[01:31] <valehru> mcphail, sudo a2enmod php5
[01:31] <valehru> This module is already enabled!
[01:31] <rcmiv> popey, if you get it, i'll be in here for a while
[01:31] <popey> rcmiv: http://www.xs4all.nl/~zweije/xauth-6.html
[01:31] <popey> that explains it
[01:31] <Jack_Sparrow> phanatic: was that Nautilus search done as sudo by chance
[01:31] <mcphail> valehru: and restarted apache?
[01:31] <BlueEagle> jp_: now again, have you tried fdisk -l w/o /dev/hda after it? Which ide chipset have you got? Have you checked if the module is installed?
[01:32] <rcmiv> vicscandl, thanks, yes, I know vnc will do http://www.xs4all.nl/~zweije/xauth-6.html
[01:32] <phanatic> Jack_Sparrow: no way
[01:32] <zoidberg> any help with my soundcard guys?
[01:32] <syzygy7> zoidberg: have you tryed using synaptic to try and find a driver for that particular soundcard?
[01:32] <rcmiv> vicscandl, thanks, yes, I know vnc will do basically what I want
[01:32] <jvai> mshome sounds like the loopback, or a machitosh
[01:32] <mengoman> help on installing drivers
[01:32] <popey> zoidberg: i suggested you run lspci to find out what sound card it is
[01:32] <jp_> BlueEagle: I'm using a ide disk
[01:32] <vicscandl> rcmiv: be sure to use it over ssh tho... ;)
[01:32] <zoidberg> its the generic soundcard Intel i think on the motherboard...it should get reocgnized
[01:32] <jp_> and I've not tried that
[01:32] <rcmiv> vicscandl, thanks yes
[01:33] <zoidberg> i dont see it when in lspci
[01:33] <popey> zoidberg: lspci?
[01:33] <rob_p> Darkfoxx:  Once you have edited and saved the file, bring the interface down, and then back up again with, "sudo ifdown wlan0" and, "sudo ifup wlan0" at the command prompt.
[01:33] <zoidberg> ?
[01:33] <syzygy7> zoidberg, i'd have to agree
[01:33] <jp_> let me try it BlueEagle
[01:33] <zoidberg> u dibt see ut in lspci?
[01:33] <Darkfoxx> rob_q: in vi i'm getting: 'readonly' option is set (add ! to override). I get that after i type :wq
[01:33] <Jack_Sparrow> zoidberg: IT might just be the age of the equipment... Wasnt that a P2 350?
[01:33] <popey> zoidberg: if you don't see it in lspci then how is linux going to see it?
[01:33] <popey> zoidberg: it's not disabled in the bios is it?
[01:33] <zoidberg> yes it is a P2 350 mhz
[01:33] <Poromenos> my soundblaster's channels are reversed (front and back) any idea on how i can fix that?
[01:34] <valehru> mcphail, is sudo apache2 -k restart the right command to restart apache?
[01:34] <popey> Poromenos: move your speakers around? :)
[01:34] <rcmiv> popey, thanks...that's getting closer, I will have to read in detail....
[01:34] <mcphail> valehru: have you installed from apt-get?
[01:34] <Poromenos> popey: good idea :P
[01:34] <popey> valehru: apache2ctl restart
[01:34] <valehru> mcphail, yes
[01:34] <mcphail> valehru: /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[01:34] <iNick> I'm still looking though the menus, but anyone got a quick point to how to erase a CDRW in dapper?
[01:34] <selas> by the look of things, ubuntu is having some problems with being installed to a primary xfs partition, right?
[01:35] <jvai> inick, use gnomebaker
[01:35] <Allen> how do I enter my resolution settings in with grub
[01:35] <syzygy7> iNick: gnome baker?
[01:35] <rcmiv> as usual, a wonderful group to chat with...goodnight
[01:35] <iNick> is gnome baker installed by default?
[01:35] <Consty> I have a wireless router that uses 64 bit WEP encryption with an open key.  My windows laptop connects just fine but my ubuntu one does not.  Can anyone assist me?  Could it be because its 64bit?  Ive connected to a 128bit network before no problem.
[01:35] <jvai> no, u have to use synaptic for gnomebaker
[01:36] <rob_p> Darkfoxx:  Sorry... had to take care of something...
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> zoidberg: Are you in the USA ?  I throw away anything under 1ghz every month
[01:36] <phanatic> micahcowan: what if i umount /dev/sda6? (-l of course)
[01:36] <Darkfoxx> np, i might have got it
[01:36] <Poromenos> also: compiz = awesomeness
[01:36] <mcphail> valehru: please don't /msg
[01:36] <Poromenos> anyone know of a good trillianesque client?
[01:36] <rob_p> Darkfoxx:  You cannot edit /etc/network/interfaces without root privs.  Use sudo.
[01:36] <Poromenos> not gaim and not kopete
[01:36] <CrazyMonkey> I need some help with freeNX, i installed the version from Seveas repo, the ssh tunnel is ok but NXagent fails to launch... Log : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20155
[01:36] <iNick> thanks, guys.  any other ideas other than gnome baker?  CLI is OK
[01:36] <Darkfoxx> rob_p: nvm i wasn't in sudo...DUH
[01:36] <valehru> mcphail, soz....didnt want to spam the channel
[01:37] <valehru> mcmillen, popey , server was restarted
[01:37] <mcphail> valehru: i suspect you have another apache instance running. Try killall -9 apache2
[01:37] <valehru> mcmillen, popey , still getting the save
[01:37] <rob_p> Darkfoxx:  I gotta run for a bit, but hopefully you're headed in the right direction  :-)
[01:37] <rob_p> Darkfoxx:  Good luck!
[01:37] <Darkfoxx> rob_p: Ok, i'll be working
[01:37] <Darkfoxx> ty
[01:37] <phanatic> micahcowan: i can read from the disk without a problem
[01:37] <mengoman> trying to install drivers for ethernet
[01:37] <mengoman> help
[01:37] <valehru> mcphail, hurrah
[01:37] <ArcAnge1> can anyone help me with a resolution problem?
[01:38] <syzygy7> iNick: not sure, but you might have a default program that comes with ubuntu, it might work
[01:38] <valehru> mcphail, that did the trick...thanks very very much
[01:38] <jvai> cd creater,
[01:38] <syzygy7> iNick: its basic, havent played with it too much, so cant tell
[01:38] <iNick> syzygy7, thanks much
[01:38] <mcphail> valehru: start and stop apapche in debian-based systems eith /etc/init.d/apache2 start|stop|restart etc
[01:38] <nuaimat> hi guys, how can i extract RAR archieves in ubuntu ???
[01:38] <jvai> but i think u have to use the terminl to blank the cdrw
[01:39] <azureal> hi, does synaptic depend on gnome
[01:39] <tamale> how can I start over trying to install MySQL?  I think I've royally ****ed up the root account.. none of the commands in the ubuntu guide to change the root mysql user password are working.. says access denied.
[01:39] <Crescendo> tamale - sudo apt-get remove mysql-server
[01:40] <tamale> Cresendo:  I tried that
[01:40] <Jack_Sparrow> nuaimat: what are you trying to install?  rar tool is in the repos..
[01:40] <tamale> Crescendo: When I re-installed it, the error messages were all still there.
[01:40] <CrazyMonkey> I need some help with freeNX, i installed the package from Seveas repo, the ssh tunnel is ok but NXagent fails to launch with "1004 Error: nxagent failed to start with: Unrecognized option: 1"Log : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20155
[01:41] <yey> hi
[01:41] <Crescendo> Try deleting the user accounts created by it?
[01:41] <spiderworm> !vmware
[01:41] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[01:41] <ReWT_AxS> why wont my sound work?
[01:41] <Jack_Sparrow> !alsa
[01:41] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[01:41] <yey> I encountered some problems with vim 7.0 installation
[01:41] <ReWT_AxS> i tried that
[01:42] <ReWT_AxS> its the xchat sound not working
[01:42] <mcphail> tamale: have you tried adding --purge to the apt-get remove line?
[01:42] <fghsfrtyh> i can connect to a shell using the ssh username@host command
[01:42] <tamale> mdphail:  No
[01:42] <giorgos[a] > but noone can connect to me
[01:42] <giorgos[a] > firestarter is down and port is open from my router
[01:42] <mcphail> tamale: that is supposed to wipe the config files. Give it a try...
[01:42] <giorgos[a] > any ideas?
[01:42] <tamale> mcphail: Thanks, trying now
[01:42] <kaatil> didi you try port forwarding? hmm oh well
[01:43] <yey> here is my problem caused by my attempt to install vim7.0: http://www.wklej.org/id/6410b07ff6
[01:43] <ReWT_AxS> why wont it work?
[01:43] <tamale> mcphail: I'm skeptical, 'cause now after the removal, I can still tab-complete "mys" and get a zillion mysql commands.. why aren't they gone?
[01:43] <yey> could you help?
[01:44] <mcphail> tamale: they will be the mysql client apps. Your problem is with the server
[01:44] <ReWT_AxS> tamale, did you delete everything the program came with?
[01:44] <ReWT_AxS> or just the program?
[01:44] <naut> dammit
[01:44] <CrazyMonkey> !freenx
[01:44] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[01:44] <naut> ubuntu is evil
[01:44] <giorgos[a] > any ideas anybody?
[01:44] <naut> I think I have a virus
[01:44] <naut> something keeps over-writing my configuraton files
[01:44] <jvai> lol.. naut
[01:44] <ReWT_AxS> a virus in linux?
[01:44] <Masqy> which window manager does ubuntu use? I understood that gnome is its defualt desktop environment?
[01:44] <ReWT_AxS> lmo
[01:44] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[01:45] <ReWT_AxS> *lmao
[01:45] <Allen> does anyone have a widescreen fix?
[01:45] <naut> jvai, I'm not laughing
[01:45] <ReWT_AxS> Allen, I'm using widescreen just fine?
[01:45] <Masqy> and, Xorg is the Xserver?
[01:45] <Allen> did it install ok?
[01:45] <jvai> it's not ubuntu that evil
[01:45] <naut> It's extremely irritating, when the changes you make keep getting over-written
[01:45] <jrib> Masqy: yes, gnome is default, but you can use kde, xfce, and many others
[01:45] <tamale> mcphail: It's definitely not removing everything... I just checked /etc/mysql/my.cnf and it still has the commented out bind 127.0.0.1 line that I edited according to the guide
[01:45] <azureal> !linuxvirus
[01:45] <ubotu> The short life and hard times of a Linux Virus http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[01:45] <ReWT_AxS> Allen, yes.
[01:45] <azureal> gnome is bad btw =P
[01:46] <giorgos[a] > anyone knows to help me with SSH
[01:46] <kaatil> why is that gnome being bad and all that
[01:46] <naut> jvai, Until I can isolate the particular source of the evilness it _is_ all of ubuntu that is evil
[01:46] <giorgos[a] > i did all as said on help.ubuntu.com
[01:46] <Masqy> jrib: I didn't really get the difference between desktop environment and window manager, which window manager does ubuntu use?
[01:46] <giorgos[a] > but noone can connect to me
[01:46] <Allen> mine cuts off the sides of my monitor
[01:46] <mcphail> tamale: i think that is the _client_ config file
[01:46] <ReWT_AxS> giorgos[a] , are you running wireless?
[01:46] <giorgos[a] > nope
[01:46] <yey> could you *help me* with that: http://www.wklej.org/id/6410b07ff6 ???
[01:46] <jvai> i feel u... guess it's too late for chkrootkit
[01:46] <ReWT_AxS> A router?
[01:46] <giorgos[a] > ethernet connection to my router
[01:46] <ReWT_AxS> You must use port forwarding.
[01:46] <tamale> mcphail: so I should go ahead and do apt-get install mysql-server then ?
[01:46] <ReWT_AxS> Your router must have a firewall.
[01:47] <giorgos[a] > erm u mean "enable" a port
[01:47] <nu> guys, i ***** up majorly
[01:47] <mcphail> tamale: yes
[01:47] <giorgos[a] > port 22
[01:47] <nu> I deleted default themes
[01:47] <nu> and icons
[01:47] <Jack_Sparrow> naut: First, it is rude to come into the home of Ubuntu and call it Evil and then expect us to help.  A virus is NOT likely..
[01:47] <nu> and even though i installed new ones
[01:47] <nu> some icons aren't showing up right
[01:47] <tamale> mcphail: Ok, installed.   How do I change the root password now?
[01:47] <jrib> Masqy: the default window manager for gnome, it's called metacity.  The window manager, just manages how windows are displayed, the desktop environment tries to do more, it tries to create an integrated environment for your desktop
[01:47] <nu> where can i get default icons and themes
[01:47] <ReWT_AxS> nu, download a new theme
[01:47] <ReWT_AxS> google for them
[01:48] <naut> Jack_Sparrow, sense of jhumour please
[01:48] <nu> ReWT_AxS: i did. but i get errors
[01:48] <Masqy> jrib: 10x
[01:48] <yey> Jack_Sparrow: could you help me with vim7.0 installation from debs? ;(
[01:48] <giorgos[a] > ReWT_AxS  i enabled port 22 for both tcp and udp at my NAPT settings
[01:48] <giorgos[a] > and still
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> naut: Politeness please
[01:48] <mcphail> tamale: check you can connect first!
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> yey: I dont do vim
[01:48] <tamale> mcphail:  How can I do that?
[01:48] <jvai> naut, what config files r being changed? are they owned by you or root?
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> yey: sorry
[01:49] <yey> Jack_Sparrow: I have a problem with pkgs index !
[01:49] <BlueEagle> anyone seen jp again?
[01:49] <yey> Jack_Sparrow: it says everywhere that it's broken ;(
[01:49] <Jack_Sparrow> yey: I'm trying to get the wifes lappy done before she gets ack...  If I have some time in a bit I would be happy to help
[01:49] <yey> Jack_Sparrow: and says that I have to do 'apt-get -f install' but it wants to delete whole my system!!! ;((((
[01:50] <yey> ;(
[01:50] <naut> jvai, it's changing resolv.conf and it is owned by root
[01:50] <mcphail> tamale: type "mysql". You really should read the mysql documentation before going any further...
[01:50] <jvai> whooa,
[01:51] <giorgos[a] > ReWT_AxS
[01:51] <giorgos[a] > any ideas?
[01:51] <jvai> what did u add that might have done that?
[01:51] <jvai> open synaptic, & look @ the history
[01:51] <tamale> mcphail: joshua@dubuntu:~/wwwroot/phpbook$ mysql
[01:51] <tamale> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'joshua'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[01:52] <mcphail> tamale: now try "mysql --user=root"
[01:52] <inkingaway> I was wondering why does my laptops cpu put out a ton of heat when using gnome but when I run XUbuntu it runs cool for the most part?
[01:52] <jvai> i hope u didnt get own3d
[01:52] <giorgos[a] > anyone can help me with SSH?
[01:52] <tamale> joshua@dubuntu:~/wwwroot/phpbook$ mysql --user=root
[01:52] <tamale> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[01:53] <BlueEagle> tamale: and you really, REALLY ought to read the mysql manual.
[01:53] <syzygy7> inkingaway: have you tryed a cpu monitor? I think there are also some temp readers out there
[01:53] <BlueEagle> tamale: did you start your mysql server? sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[01:53] <giorgos[a] > anyone can help me with SSH?
[01:53] <BlueEagle> tamale: ignore that last question. You apperantly did. :)
[01:53] <syzygy7> inkingaway: *cpu frequency monitor
[01:53] <mcphail> BlueEagle: the server will be started if he has that error message
[01:54] <mcphail> BlueEagle: he has messed up his access rights or password
[01:54] <tamale> BlueEagle, mcphail:  I've used MySQL without problems in the past.  I just can't figure out how to fix the password problems.
[01:54] <KrisW> I just installed postgresql but I'm having trouble figuring out where apt put the binary, does anyone know?
[01:54] <giorgos[a] > BlueEagle can u help me with an SSH prob?
[01:54] <vick> Hello i have Dell inspiron 510m laptop , moving the mouse from the touchpad moves the mouse cursor really slow, i tried messing with xset but couldn't make it move faster, is there any other way ?
[01:55] <KrisW> when I try to run postgresql from the commandline it says the server isn't running
[01:55] <KrisW> and I can't figure out where the binary is to start it :-/
[01:55] <mcphail> tamale: what happens when you try your password?
[01:55] <syzygy7> Dose anyone know what command would I have to use/program to be able to configure my wireless card's channel's?
[01:55] <tamale> mcphail: I don't even get a prompt for a passowrd
[01:55] <tamale> mcphail: That's why i'm so confused
[01:56] <mcphail> tamale: aargh - "mysql --user=root --password=yourpassword"
[01:56] <giorgos[a] > mcphail i can connect to a shell successfully.firestarter is off.port 22 is open in udp and tcp at my NAPT settings at my router and noone can connect to me.
[01:56] <giorgos[a] > any ideas
[01:56] <tamale> mcphail:  That worked fine.
[01:57] <TheMoebius> how do I get stderr to output to a text file?
[01:57] <mcphail> tamale: I really try never to say this, but RTFM!!!!!!!!
[01:57] <jrib> TheMoebius: 2> file
[01:57] <giorgos[a] > mcphail any ideas bout my prob?
[01:57] <KristianDK> ho
[01:57] <tamale> mcphail: This is the part that didn't work, is it importnat?
[01:57] <tamale> mysqladmin -h root@local-machine-name -u root password your-new-password
[01:57] <KristianDK> hi *
[01:58] <yey> :((
[01:58] <seven11> Anyone willing to help me through installing some sound card drivers... I'm doing so bad at it.
[01:58] <TheMoebius> jrib: thx
[01:58] <yey> how can I install sth. from local deb file with apt ?
[01:58] <Webstrand> My linux OS just crashed, and i was told Ubuntu was a good recovery tool, but my harddrive wont show up. How can i mount it?
[01:58] <Ykstort> I can't seem to find a package for unrealircd anywhere in apt :(
[01:58] <jrib> TheMoebius: np
[01:58] <yey> :(
[01:58] <Ykstort> I tried searching for unreal and irc
[01:58] <KristianDK> yeye -> dpkg -i filename
[01:58] <javiolo> yey sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[01:59] <yey> javiolo: but with dependencies check?
[01:59] <giorgos[a] > anyone can help me with an SSH prob?
[01:59] <bam_> Hi I was wondering if someone could help me change the max number of files my user is able to open.
[01:59] <giorgos[a] > anyone can help me with an SSH prob?
[01:59] <mcphail> giorgos[a] : make sure you have /etc/ssh/sshd_config configured correctly
[01:59] <KristianDK> yeye - it is
[01:59] <giorgos[a] > erm
[01:59] <giorgos[a] > mcphail what should i look for?
[01:59] <mcphail> giorgos[a] : the config file is well documented
[01:59] <javiolo> yey try auto-apt
[02:00] <tamale> mcphail, BlueEagle: This is the part that didn't work, is it important?
[02:00] <tamale> mysqladmin -h root@local-machine-name -u root password your-new-password
[02:00] <mcphail> giorgos[a] : and make sure you router has port-forwarding set up correctly
[02:00] <bam_> my user is not permited to execute "ulimit -n 2048" but then again "sudo ulimit -n 2048" tells me that sudo: command not foun....
[02:00] <bam_> anu ideas?
[02:00] <giorgos[a] > it is at the router
[02:00] <Ykstort> I can't seem to find a package for unrealircd anywhere in apt :(
[02:00] <Ykstort> I tried searching for unreal and irc
[02:00] <giorgos[a] > i should change the listen address mcphail ?
[02:01] <skibobdi> does anyone know why 64bit dapper would crash hard 2 seconds after displaying the login screen, or where I can look to find the error (i tried xorg logs / gdm logs / messages ), someone pls point me in the right direction :(
[02:01] <bam_> I have tried changing etc/security/limits.conf   but it does not seem to work...
[02:01] <ravenous> Ykstort: probabaly not in the repos then
[02:01] <mcphail> giorgos[a] : it is a long time since i trawled through that file. Give me a sec.
[02:01] <giorgos[a] > take ur time
[02:01] <Ykstort> ravenous, a package like that not in the repos ?!
[02:01] <Ykstort> DISGRAcEFUL!
[02:01] <Ykstort> >:|
[02:01] <ravenous> ive never even heard of it
[02:01] <javiolo> Ykstort build from sources...
[02:01] <KristianDK>  test
[02:01] <giorgos[a] > mcphail  i connect normally but when someone trys to connect it returns :connection timed out
[02:01] <neutral> some websites have popup windows when I use firefox!  How can I stop those certain few popups?   I have popups disabled in firefox, but it seems some popups are immune to this feature in firefox!  Any fix pls?
[02:01] <Ykstort> Oh sure I could do that
[02:01] <neutral> popey: I also installed a popup blocker extension, but some websites still seem to be able to have popups!  any ideas?
[02:01] <KristianDK_>  test
[02:01] <Ykstort> But the whole point in apt
[02:01] <smo> bam_: I believe ulimit is a bash builtin?  provided by the shell, rather than a binary in the shell's path
[02:01] <Ykstort> is that it's easier to use
[02:02] <Ykstort> than building from source
[02:02] <Ykstort> and such
[02:02] <jrib> neutral: try using noscript extension
[02:02] <ravenous> well everyone's random program doesnt make it in the repos
[02:02] <KrisW> does anyone know how I start the postgresql server for ubuntu?
[02:03] <yey> javiolo: how to use auto-apt? I have alrady installed that
[02:03] <javiolo> Ykstort I know, but if you can get it from apt, build it :P
[02:03] <Ykstort> ravenous, unrealircd is not somebody's random program
[02:03] <boolka>  Hi, how do I change the font color on the toolbars on my desktop?
[02:03] <javiolo> yey man auto-apt
[02:03] <ravenous> ive never heard of it nor seen it asked of in here
[02:03] <Ykstort> It is a huge pile of steaming ownage
[02:03] <yey> javiolo: I don't understand it
[02:03] <Lukemc86> does anyone know a good place to look for audio drivers, i checked alsa-project.org with no luck
[02:03] <Ykstort> ravenous, that is most odd
[02:03] <yey> javiolo: "Enter auto-apt environment" ?????
[02:04] <yey> run - "Ent...
[02:04] <Ykstort> Because it's a pretty damn popular ircd
[02:04] <Tsukino> interesting.. apparently in Ubuntu my laptop gets 3-5 degrees C hotter when the battery is fully charged then when it's charging still
[02:04] <yey> javiolo: could you tell me how you would install my debs ?
[02:04] <yey> javiolo: I'm trying to install vim7.0 and it has some dependencies
[02:05] <ravenous> ircd is popular sure, which is in the repos, not unrealircd
[02:05] <mcphail> giorgos[a] : the "listen" directive is to _restrict_ access, not widen it. You need to set your preferrd authentication methods in the config file and restart the server
[02:05] <\spudulike> Is there a command line config tool for X?  I have just done a Dapper install on an old Dell machine and X fails to start.  Annoying really as the same Dapper disk works as a live disto on the same machine, I'm using it now.
[02:05] <Ykstort> \spudulike, xorgconfig
[02:05] <giorgos[a] > mcphail u mean the whole pc?
[02:05] <valehru> I have an application that I start by the command "/etc/init.d/gnump3d start"  How can I get this automatically running when the PC boots?
[02:05] <Awesome-o2000> \spudulike, xubuntu
[02:05] <tamale> Is this command right?  It keeps returning an error message "connect to server failed":
[02:05] <tamale> mysqladmin -h root@local-machine-name -u root password your-new-password
[02:05] <tamale> I replaced local-machine-name with the name of my computer and your-new-password with the password I want
[02:05] <\spudulike> Ykstort: Ah, I, err, should have guessed!
[02:05] <[flanqu3] > does ubuntu have an easy way to upgrade to newer nvidia drivers?
[02:05] <Ykstort> lawl
[02:06] <mcphail> giorgos[a] : no: /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[02:06] <giorgos[a] > ok
[02:07] <mcphail> tamale: use "root@localhost"
[02:07] <tamale> mcphail: Literally?
[02:07] <KristianDK> flanqu3, with synaptic
[02:07] <mcphail> yes
[02:07] <tamale> in quotes?
[02:07] <mcphail> tamale: no.
[02:08] <tamale> mcphail: Still got error to connect
[02:08] <Lukemc86> does anyone know a good place to look for audio drivers, i checked alsa-project.org with no luck
[02:09] <tamale> mcphail: I just want this install to  be perfect, so I won't have problems with the next steps of installing the apache modules for mysql and the php ones as well
[02:09] <giorgos[a] > mcphail look at this plz http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20158
[02:09] <holy_cow> Hello
[02:09] <neutral> jrib: what noscript extension?
[02:11] <mcphail> tamale: i'd need to look up the mysqladmin synatx, but try "mysqladmin --user=root --password=yourpassword password newpassword"
[02:11] <tamale> mcphail: Ok, I'll try that
[02:12] <giorgos[a] > mcphail saw the errors?
[02:12] <mcphail> giorgos[a] : how did you start the ssh daemon initially?
[02:12] <giorgos[a] > /etc/init.d/ssh start
[02:12] <yey> can I add downloaded deb files to the synaptic manager?
[02:13] <mcphail> giorgos[a] : do the keys mentioned in the error logs exist?
[02:13] <BlueEagle> yey: I think they are added there when you install them. Not sure about that tho
[02:13] <visik7> anyone know a way to slipstream updates in the install cd ?
[02:13] <jvai> brb..
[02:13] <BlueEagle> yey: I remember installing Opera from a .deb and it was added.
[02:13] <giorgos[a] > mcphail i suppose so.how can i create em again?
[02:14] <yey> BlueEagle: but I cannot install them properly (I wanted to manage dependencies with sym)
[02:14] <yey> with synaptic*
[02:14] <BlueEagle> yey: Oh really? Which .deb are we talking about here?
[02:14] <yey> BlueEagle: I'm trying to install vim 7.0
[02:14] <yey> BlueEagle: Do you have it?
[02:15] <mcphail> giorgos[a] : do they exist? Did you use "sudo" before the command?
[02:15] <giorgos[a] > i did
[02:15] <giorgos[a] > and i got this
[02:15] <giorgos[a] > * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...                                                                           [fail] 
[02:15] <giorgos[a] > grrr
[02:15] <yey> BlueEagle: vim_7.0-035+1_i386.deb
[02:16] <mcphail> giorgos[a] : that looks better...
[02:16] <giorgos[a] > lol it does?
[02:16] <giorgos[a] > what do i do now?
[02:16] <labreche> Hi, anynoe know whitch path i have to put my rt2500.ko file to load it at boot?
[02:16] <valehru> Anyone know the plugin where I can minimize beep mp3 player to the system tray?
[02:17] <BlueEagle> yey: I see. Which dependency is causing you trouble. Because since vim7 is not in the repos yet odds are that the dependencies aren't either. This means that you'll need to install the dependencies manually anyways and that might break other programs (which might just be the reason for vim7 not to be in the repos yet) :)
[02:17] <mcphail> giorgos[a] : find out your ip address and try to ssh to yourself
[02:17] <yey> BlueEagle: I have installed vim but apt wanted then to remove almost whole my system!!
[02:18] <BlueEagle> yey: Either way, since the deps aren't in the repos then adding vim7 to synaptic won't get you anywhere. (These are just educated guesses that may or may not be correct)
[02:18] <yey> BlueEagle: more than a GB :/
[02:18] <mcphail> giorgos[a] : you could open a terminal and run "tail -f /var/log/auth.log" at the same time
[02:18] <giorgos[a] > mcphail just ssh ip?
[02:18] <KonqiTails> Hello Room :)
[02:18] <mcphail> giorgos[a] : yes, your _external_ ip address
[02:18] <KonqiTails> Is theer such a thing as an Ubuntu Installer for Windows to view Ubuntu while on it
[02:18] <giorgos[a] > mcmillen i believe this will give u an idea
[02:18] <giorgos[a] > Aug 10 03:06:08 localhost sshd[18123] : error: Bind to port 22 on 0.0.0.0 failed: Permission denied.
[02:18] <giorgos[a] > Aug 10 03:06:08 localhost sshd[18123] : fatal: Cannot bind any address.
[02:19] <BlueEagle> yey: I see. Any examples at all? Something that really seemed weird that should be removed? (use pastebin if neccessary)
[02:19] <Tonren> guys, this is SO urgent.  where is FireFox's web cache located?  I need to view the text content of a page that's gone, but I was just visiting like 3 seconds ago
[02:19] <farous> giorgos[a] : do you connect to the net through router
[02:19] <BlueEagle> giorgos[a] : Your secure shell server isn't set up to listen to the proper interface.
[02:19] <BlueEagle> giorgos[a] : if not secure shell then tripwire or what you are installing. Didn't catch the start of yoru problem.
[02:20] <mcphail> giorgos[a] : did you uncomment the "ListenAddress" lines in sshd_config?
[02:20] <BlueEagle> giorgos[a] : But the root of the matter is that 0.0.0.0 is not something you would want to bind anything to.
[02:20] <yey> BlueEagle: I already removed vim completely and returned to the previous state
[02:20] <KrisW> when is a good time to update from breezy to dapper on a stable system?
[02:20] <mcphail> giorgos[a] : if you did, comment them out again. As i said, these _restrict_ access
[02:21] <bimberi> KrisW: just after a thorough backup
[02:21] <KrisW> hehe
[02:21] <gnomefreak> KrisW: dapper has been stable since june 1st
[02:21] <BlueEagle> yey: Hmm.. that wasn't really what I intended to ask. What I want to know is which part of your system apt wants to remove to fix what's broken.
[02:21] <bimberi> :)
[02:21] <giorgos[a] > mcphail i did not touch em
[02:21] <corey> My vaio has a memory card reader that I can't get to work :(
[02:21] <Tonren> Oh man, you guys HAVE to help me out.  Does Firefox even cache text content?  Am I hosed?!!?
[02:21] <giorgos[a] > BlueEagle i try to understand why i can connect to a shell and another user cannot connect to me
[02:21] <BlueEagle> yey: Does it want to remove stuff that, in your opinion, isn't related to vim in any way?
[02:22] <KrisW> I need to install the latest postgresql for a web app I'm trying to install, but the server is stable for everything else that runs on it, and the latest postgresql isn't in the standard repos
[02:22] <yey> BlueEagle: it wanted, I solved my problem with synaptic
[02:22] <KrisW> I'll see if I can get the latest version running on breezy then I'll try dapper if it doesn't work
[02:22] <mcphail> giorgos[a] : open the file and make sure there is a "#" at the start of those lines
[02:22] <yey> BlueEagle: but I remember that it wanted to remove Xs for example
[02:22] <yey> BlueEagle: and there was more than 1 GB
[02:23] <sc0tt> hey folks
[02:23] <giorgos[a] > there is mcphail
[02:23] <sc0tt> if i have two sound cards
[02:23] <sc0tt> how i change which is default?
[02:23] <BlueEagle> giorgos[a] : Well you need to configure your secure shell server and set up a user account for the remote user to connect to you. Also if you've got a (hardware) firewall and/or a router you might need to forward port 22 to your machine. But the error indicates that your secure shell server isn't configured properly.
[02:23] <compotatoj> sc0tt, is one integrated?
[02:24] <sc0tt> yes
[02:24] <compotatoj> sc0tt, and that is the one you don't want to use, correct?
[02:24] <giorgos[a] > BlueEagle i used adduser
[02:24] <sc0tt> i want to use both, but i need to change the one its using as default
[02:24] <Tonren> Oh come on... NO ONE knows where Firefox cache is located/!
[02:24] <giorgos[a] > and my NAPT settings have udp and tcp forwarding on port 22
[02:25] <sc0tt> :>
[02:25] <compotatoj> sc0tt, have you tried going to System > Prefrences > Sound
[02:25] <BlueEagle> giorgos[a] : Have you got more than one machine on your network?
[02:25] <farous> Tonren: search under .mozilla
[02:25] <sc0tt> yeah, didn't do anything :(
[02:25] <Tonren> farous: You are a god
[02:25] <Tonren> farous: Gah... nothing
[02:25] <sc0tt> sec, i'll try that again
[02:25] <compotatoj> sc0tt, there is the default sound card slot? that didn't work?
[02:25] <farous> lol you will find firefox folder let me get it for you
[02:25] <sc0tt> the default one works
[02:25] <sc0tt> but when i change to the one i want it to be, i hear no sound
[02:26] <BlueEagle> giorgos[a] : Ok, if I am going to help you with this I really need you to pay attention to what I am asking you.
[02:26] <sc0tt> maybe its muted
[02:26] <sc0tt> i'll check alsamixer
[02:26] <tamale> mcphail: Should I be able to go to http://mybox.net/phpmyadmin  without any further configuration after installing php5, php5-mysql, and phpmyadmin?  When I try to go there in firefox I don't get any errors, just a blank white page.
[02:26] <threadmac> How come my rt2500 wireless chip was working fine after a fresh install, but has rendered me unable to join my lan after some package installs? ... network manager? nothing else network related that I can think of.
[02:26] <compotatoj> sc0tt, yeah, when I try doing it, it won't let me switch from my default one either-- it goes back to the first one after i close out
[02:26] <tamale> mcphail:  I uncommented the necessary line in php5/apache2/php.ini
[02:27] <threadmac> I killed NetworkManger and nm-applet ... still doesn't work
[02:27] <visik7> is there an editor for iso images  ???
[02:27] <BlueEagle> tamale: Check /var/log/apache2/error.log
[02:27] <giorgos[a] > BlueEagle i am
[02:27] <farous> Tonren: .mozilla/firefox/<whatever your ,default is>/Cashe
[02:27] <BlueEagle> giorgos[a] : Well then please answer the questions. Do you have more than one machine on your network?
[02:27] <giorgos[a] > BlueEagle it is just this pc
[02:27] <yozBuntu> threadmac, sounds like your kernel got upgraded
[02:27] <yozBuntu> and new kernel doesn't know how to talk to wireless anymore
[02:27] <yozBuntu> for some reason.
[02:27] <threadmac> yozBuntu: thank you!!
[02:27] <BlueEagle> giorgos[a] : Ok. Have you got more than one network interface card in that machine?
[02:27] <threadmac> heh
[02:27] <Tonren> farous: Ah, god it, thanks
[02:27] <ardchoille> visik7: an ISO is a finalised file system, you can't edit it. You can, however, mount it, copy the files over to a dir, change what you need and use mkisofs to make a new ISO
[02:27] <yey> BlueEagle: it's weird, I was happy because I have installed package vim-runtime_7.0-035+1_all (not vim_7.0-035+1_i386.deb) and now cannot run vim :(
[02:28] <threadmac> that's got to be it
[02:28] <yey> yey@YEY:~$ vim
[02:28] <tamale> BlueEagle: PHP Warning:  Module 'mysql' already loaded in Unknown on line 0
[02:28] <yey> bash: vim: command not found
[02:28] <yozBuntu> threadmac, on one of my systems i had to copy firmware.fw file from the old /lib/ tree to the new one.
[02:28] <giorgos[a] > no.just the router connected via ethernet
[02:28] <yozBuntu> threadmac, i found that out by watching 'dmesg'
[02:28] <visik7> ardchoille: yes but some tools on windows can edit it
[02:28] <yozBuntu> in terminal
[02:28] <sc0tt> lol
[02:28] <sc0tt> as i said that, it now works :P
[02:28] <tamale> BlueEagle: That was a while ago though, it doesn't look like any error messages were generated
[02:28] <visik7> ardchoille: preserving boot stage
[02:28] <threadmac> yozBuntu: actually I don't get any messages in dmesg about firmware
[02:28] <BlueEagle> tamale: Well there you go. Your script appears to be broken. Then again that's just a warning but it does tell you that php is working. :)
[02:28] <mistraal> is there any way to reduce the size of the desktop icons in Kubuntu?
[02:28] <compotatoj> sc0tt, what did you do, i am curious?
[02:28] <BlueEagle> tamale: I see.
[02:28] <yozBuntu> threadmac, it might not be the same reason it's failing
[02:28] <yey> BlueEagle: and it should work because I have been using it on suse 10.1
[02:28] <sc0tt> alsamixer -c 1
[02:29] <ardchoille> visik7: I find it hard to believe that it actually edits the ISO itself.
[02:29] <compotatoj> sc0tt, thanks.
[02:29] <visik7> yes it can
[02:29] <yozBuntu> threadmac, if you do an 'ls /lib/' from terminal, do you see two directories?
[02:29] <threadmac> yozBuntu: I am seeing: rt2500 EEPROM:  1 2 3 4 .... etc looking messages scroll
[02:29] <yey> BlueEagle: but on suse I have compiled it myself
[02:29] <tamale> BlueEagle: Should that page work?
[02:29] <sc0tt> then alsactl store
[02:29] <tamale> like, should there be things there?
[02:29] <yozBuntu> a 2.6.15-23 and a 2.6.15-26 ?
[02:29] <threadmac> yozBuntu: /lib/modules :)
[02:29] <threadmac> yeah
[02:29] <yozBuntu> yea, sorry. ;)
[02:29] <BlueEagle> yey: I really don't know. Now I assume that 7.0 is a big issue but until it's released in the repositories you are probably better of on a vim channel or forum, sorry. :/
[02:29] <yozBuntu> ok so yes you went through a kernel upgrade and something broke.
[02:29] <yozBuntu> maybe it still has to do with that directory structure.
[02:30] <BlueEagle> tamale: should what page work?
[02:30] <yozBuntu> something missing from the old to the new?
[02:30] <hardware> hello
[02:30] <hardware> can i ask
[02:30] <jordan_> how can i move a already half done torrent to azureus from bittorent?
[02:30] <hardware> how to instal yahoo
[02:30] <dredhammer> hello everyone
[02:30] <BlueEagle> giorgos[a] : Ok, if you don't prefix lines you write to me with my nick odds are that I'll miss them as they don't highlight on my irc client. :)
[02:30] <yozBuntu> 'install yahoo' ?
[02:30] <BlueEagle> giorgos[a] : what is the ip address of your machine?
[02:31] <giorgos[a] > ok BlueEagle  sorry
[02:31] <dredhammer> I just tried to install Ubuntu on my laptop and my second PC that uses a wireless connection
[02:31] <dredhammer> the installs went greeat
[02:31] <giorgos[a] > BlueEagle * Found your IP: [85.75.120.163] 
[02:31] <ReWT_AxS> how do i find the location of a program on my ubuntu if i know the name of it?
[02:31] <compotatoj> BlueEagle, you know you can get it from IRC :)
[02:31] <ReWT_AxS> ?
[02:31] <hardware> hello
[02:31] <ReWT_AxS> how do i find the location of a program on my ubuntu if i know the name of it?
[02:31] <dredhammer> but i didn't check to see if ubuntu saw my linksys wireless adapters
[02:31] <Ronz> hi hardware
[02:31] <BlueEagle> giorgos[a] : That's your public ip. Is the ip of your machine 10.0.0.1 or 192.168.0.1 or something?
[02:31] <ReWT_AxS> gaim has yahoo messenger built into it
[02:31] <dredhammer> and they didn't
[02:31] <ReWT_AxS> ?
[02:31] <ReWT_AxS> congrats dredhammer
[02:31] <ReWT_AxS> whois giorgos[a] 
[02:31] <BlueEagle> giorgos[a] : ie. does your router give you a c-class network ip address?
[02:31] <hardware> ok
[02:32] <hardware> thanks
[02:32] <dredhammer> so how do i get wireless acces back?
[02:32] <dredhammer> with no internet connection?
[02:32] <giorgos[a] > BlueEagle u mean the ip i use to connect to my router to make the settings?
[02:32] <Ronz> dredhammer, do you have your wireless card installed?
[02:32] <compotatoj> ReWT_AxS, it depends, do you want to find the binary to execute it from, or the config files or what? if you installed it with synaptic you can right click properties on the package and it tells you where it installs stuff to
[02:32] <mcphail> yey: i'm using vim7, but compiled it myself
[02:32] <compotatoj> ReWT_AxS, configs are usually in ~/.(progname)
[02:32] <dredhammer> yes on the laptop and the desktop PC using the linksys wireless apdapter
[02:32] <yey> mcphail: it seems to be the only solution, that's the way I did it on suse
[02:33] <Ronz> dredhammer, sudo ifconfig eth1 up
[02:33] <OPTiCO> "PCI: Unable to reserve mem region #3:10000000@c0000000 for device 0000:00:02.0" Anyone know how to fix this? i810.
[02:33] <jordan_> Can anybody see this? (If you can say yes.) In every room im being ignored.
[02:33] <mcphail> yey: you can create a .deb with checkinstall
[02:33] <dredhammer> and thats it?
[02:33] <compotatoj> ReWT_AxS, binaries are /usr/bin/(progname) libraries: /usr/lib etc: /usr/etc
[02:33] <dredhammer> ok will do
[02:33] <ReWT_AxS> well im trying to set sounds up in xchat
[02:33] <compotatoj> jordan, i can see it
[02:33] <giorgos[a] > BlueEagle when i connect to change settings i use 10.0.0.138
[02:33] <yey> mcphail: ?
[02:33] <ReWT_AxS> i got the location of the sound to play
[02:33] <Ronz> dredhammer, that will bring the wireless back up. you will have to do iwconfig eth1 essid <ssid> then dhcpcd eth1
[02:33] <ReWT_AxS> but it is not playing?
[02:33] <ReWT_AxS> so im guessing i have to use the external player option?
[02:33] <BlueEagle> giorgos[a] : I see. That will make the ip of your machine (the one you get when you type ipconfig) to 10.0.0.1 or something.
[02:34] <ReWT_AxS> now im trying to find a player that will work
[02:34] <Ronz> and if you have a key, you would iwconfig eth1 key <key>
[02:34] <Ronz> before the dhcp
[02:34] <Ronz> *dhcpcd
[02:34] <compotatoj> ReWT_AxS, what kind of sound is it?
[02:34] <ReWT_AxS> .wav
[02:34] <BlueEagle> giorgos[a] : Now in your /etc/ssh/sshd_config file. Did you uncomment (remove the #) from the line that reads ListenAddress 0.0.0.0   ?
[02:34] <giorgos[a] > yes
[02:34] <giorgos[a] > BlueEagle yes
[02:34] <compotatoj> ReWT_AxS, look and see if you have a good music player installed Apps > Sound and Video
[02:35] <BlueEagle> giorgos[a] : Ok. Pleaes put the # back in front of that line as you really do not need to set that configuration option with only one network interface card (NIC)
[02:35] <dredhammer> yikes
[02:35] <ReWT_AxS> i have beep media, and xmms
[02:35] <BlueEagle> giorgos[a] : When you've put that comment back please attempt to restart the ssh server.
[02:36] <Lukemc86> anyone know a good place to find audio drivers?
[02:36] <mcphail> yey: you could try the .deb i made, if you want?
[02:36] <giorgos[a] > BlueEagle  i did and stoped and started again ok
[02:36] <yey> mcphail: ok
[02:36] <BlueEagle> giorgos[a] : ok. I am going to try to connect to it now just to see if I get a login screen or not.
[02:36] <bruenig> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? How do I fix that, I thin it is dpkg configure something or other but I forgot
[02:36] <compotatoj> ReWT_AxS, you could try xmms or you could download rhythmbox and stuff using synaptic
[02:36] <giorgos[a] > ok please
[02:36] <mistraal> is there any way to reduce the size of the desktop icons in Kubuntu?
[02:37] <yozBuntu> jordan_ i see you heh
[02:37] <BlueEagle> giorgos[a] : ok, I am getting a "no route to host" error.
[02:37] <compotatoj> bruenig, you have synaptic running or you are doing an apt-get
[02:37] <BlueEagle> giorgos[a] : Have you got a Thompson spead touch ADSL modem/router?
[02:37] <bruenig> no
[02:37] <jordan_> yozBuntu, good
[02:37] <compotatoj> bruenig, close synaptic
[02:37] <giorgos[a] > no an alcatel
[02:37] <giorgos[a] > speedtouch 530
[02:37] <giorgos[a] > but the port 22
[02:37] <jordan_> yozBuntu, I was scared. Everybody ignored me...
[02:37] <giorgos[a] > is open for udp
[02:37] <giorgos[a] > i must have it for TCP too?
[02:38] <mcphail> yey: if i can find it....
[02:38] <BlueEagle> giorgos[a] : I see. Well that should not matter and you need TCP but not UDP for secure shell.
[02:38] <bruenig> I was downloading a package and closed the terminal before it was done
[02:38] <yey> mcphail: ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unix/vim-7.0.tar.bz2
[02:38] <giorgos[a] > BlueEagle hold on let me change it
[02:38] <mcphail> yey: no, i have a .deb i created on my system somewhere...
[02:38] <ReWT_AxS> compotatoj, what would be the stuff i have to setup in preferences>sound
[02:38] <ReWT_AxS> here in xchat
[02:39] <yey> mcphail: I see
[02:39] <bruenig> and so it thinks that some package management device is still running because It never finished that package, or so I theorize
[02:39] <giorgos[a] > BlueEagle  i did it.try again
[02:39] <BlueEagle> giorgos[a] : Even so your speedtouch 530 is probably not very unlike my speedtouch 510i (I hope). Now there should be a "default server" setting in the modem configuration. It might help if you set that to 10.0.0.1 (or the address you get from ifconfig)
[02:39] <compotatoj> bruenig, you could kill it using this (i know its really ugly put i don't know how to do it any other way): kill `ps aux | grep apt-get | grep -v grep | awk '{ print $2 }'`
[02:39] <racefire> Would one of you strapping young lads be able to answer a question I have in a trhead?
[02:39] <racefire> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=232219
[02:39] <compotatoj> ReWT_AxS, nothing
[02:40] <BlueEagle> giorgos[a] : That setting should be under NAPT
[02:40] <giorgos[a] > yes it is
[02:40] <ReWT_AxS> what do you mean?
[02:40] <compotatoj> ReWT_AxS, just open the file in rhythmbox or xmms
[02:40] <ReWT_AxS> how can i use sounds without opening something everytime?
[02:40] <giorgos[a] > BlueEagle  it has another ip.i should change that to 10.0.0.1?
[02:40] <mcphail> yey: /msg me your email and i can send it. It is a 5.8meg file though...
[02:41] <BlueEagle> giorgos[a] : Which IP is set under default server?
[02:41] <racefire> Can anyone anser the question at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=232219 ?
[02:41] <giorgos[a] > BlueEagle 169.254.80.23
[02:41] <giorgos[a] > lol
[02:41] <tamale> why can't apt-get find flashplugin-nonfree ?
[02:41] <racefire> I did that.
[02:41] <ardchoille> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[02:41] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.63.3ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)
[02:41] <BlueEagle> giorgos[a] : That is very unnerving
[02:41] <compotatoj> tamale, try enabling the universe and multiverse repositories
[02:41] <racefire> I did that
[02:41] <BlueEagle> giorgos[a] : Try just removing the IP from there
[02:41] <ardchoille> tamale: You need to enable the multiverse repo, do sudo apt-get update and try again
[02:41] <BlueEagle> giorgos[a] : ie. set it as blank.
[02:42] <giorgos[a] > BlueEagle just remove?
[02:42] <BlueEagle> giorgos[a] : yes.
[02:42] <tamale> ardchoille: They are enabled
[02:42] <compotatoj> ubotu, lol is that an automated message... oh wait uBOTu haha nice
[02:42] <OPTiCO> "PCI: Unable to reserve mem region #3:10000000@c0000000 for device 0000:00:02.0" Anyone know how to fix this? i810 gfx-card set up to use 128mb mem in both xorg.conf and BIOS.
[02:42] <giorgos[a] > BlueEagle it replaced it with the word none
[02:42] <ardchoille> tamale: sudo apt-get update
[02:43] <BlueEagle> giorgos[a] : good, now click "Save All" (if you've got that option)
[02:43] <giorgos[a] > BlueEagle  did it
[02:43] <BlueEagle> giorgos[a] : ok
[02:43] <ReWT_AxS> compotatoj, how can i have it play without keeping a program open?
[02:43] <racefire> Anyone got more advice?
[02:43] <BlueEagle> giorgos[a] : Are you running any firewalls? Shorewall? Firestarter?
[02:44] <mcphail> yey: sending now
[02:44] <giorgos[a] > firestarter is off
[02:44] <ReWT_AxS> giorgos[a] , did you do the port forwarding in your router settings?
[02:44] <BlueEagle> giorgos[a] : I see. Please open a terminal and type: sudo iptables -L
[02:44] <rdz> hi all. what is the version of gtk+ in ubuntu dapper?
[02:44] <BlueEagle> giorgos[a] : paste the output to pastebin
[02:44] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell giorgos[a]  about pastebin
[02:45] <rdz> i can't figure out how the package is called
[02:45] <compotatoj> minimize it, or hover over the file
[02:45] <BlueEagle> giorgos[a] : Are you registered on the freenode IRC network so you can send private messages?
[02:45] <ardchoille> BlueEagle: Won't he need to add a line to /etc/hosts.allow to allow ssh from a machine? I set up sshd today and I had to do that.
[02:45] <compotatoj> ReWT_AxS, hover over the file, you should have a little note that pops up and means its pllaying
[02:45] <ReWT_AxS> rdz go to the location in terminal type a little bit of the name and hit tab a few times
[02:45] <giorgos[a] > i will now
[02:45] <tamale> ardchoille: I had already done that, but now I did it again and it found it... ugh.. sorry.
[02:45] <cycom> Why does ubuntu lose any edits to my menu.lst if I update my kernel?
[02:45] <ReWT_AxS> compotatoj, i dont
[02:46] <BlueEagle> ardchoille: That depends on what's in his hosts.deny file. :)
[02:46] <ardchoille> tamale: ok :)
[02:46] <ardchoille> BlueEagle: ahh, true
[02:46] <steve_Laptop> well have some fun rm -f /
[02:46] <rdz> ReWT_AxS, to which location?
[02:46] <steve_Laptop> lol
[02:46] <OPTiCO> cycom: look at the commented lines
[02:46] <BlueEagle> ardchoille: besides I should get a "connection refused" if I was able to resolve his host and not a "no route to host".
[02:46] <compotatoj> ReWT_AxS, i don't know then, maybe you need to install codecs
[02:46] <ardchoille> steve_Laptop: Please do *not* post that command in a support channel.
[02:47] <steve_Laptop> ardchoille, your right im sorry
[02:47] <mcphail> ardchoille: you dont need to edit hosts.allow
[02:47] <ardchoille> BlueEagle: Yeah, good point.
[02:47] <MinceR> hi
[02:47] <BlueEagle> steve_laptop: That's a very very very bad joke.
[02:47] <ardchoille> mcphail: You do when /etc/hosts.deny has "ALL: ALL"
[02:47] <MinceR> backspace doesn't work as it should in rtorrent and i'm out of ideas.
[02:47] <steve_Laptop> ardchoille, I just got a attatude with my server somthing is F
[02:47] <MinceR> doesn't seem to be a terminal problem
[02:47] <mcphail> ardchoille: indeed
[02:48] <MinceR> can someone help me with this?
[02:48] <cycom> OPTiCO: Thanks dude.  Just needed to know where to look I guess :)
[02:48] <OPTiCO> np ;)
[02:48] <steve_Laptop> BlueEagle, I was not meaning any harm sorry to all! steve is a little hot headed right now
[02:49] <visik7> ardchoille: transmac can modify an iso
[02:49] <tyeth> hi guys, i wonder if anyone can help
[02:49] <komodo> hello
[02:49] <tyeth> i dont know the default login to configure caudium on ubuntu 606
[02:49] <toddobryan> Hi. I'm trying to do an install of 6.06. It gets as far as where the X server should start, and then the keyboard dies. So dead that the Num Lock and Caps Lock lights don't even come on when I push the buttons, even though they worked before.
[02:49] <toddobryan> Any ideas?
[02:49] <compotatoj> toddobryan, ps2 or usb
[02:49] <komodo> try a PS/2 keyboard?
[02:50] <toddobryan> ps2
[02:50] <toddobryan> (I tried a USB earlier and it didn't work, so I went back to PS2).
[02:50] <compotatoj> toddobryan, hmm.. try running it in safe mode
[02:50] <owen_> gnomebaker makes music cd's from mp3's that are playable on stereos right?
[02:50] <compotatoj> toddobryan, that may only be for graphics but w/e
[02:50] <toddobryan> OK. I think I did, but I'll try again.
[02:50] <racefire> having sound problems: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=232219
[02:51] <compotatoj> is ubotu a person hitting automated responses or an fully-automated bot?
[02:51] <ardchoille> !ubotu
[02:51] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[02:53] <visik7> ardchoille: as not said the tool was only for dmg
[02:53] <visik7> not for iso9660
[02:53] <ardchoille> visik7: Please take it to #off-topic
[02:53] <uberspaced> is there a good resource for playing games like doom on linux?
[02:53] <uberspaced> like doom 1 or doom 2?
[02:53] <visik7> ardchoille: the whole was for modify an ubuntu iso
[02:53] <visik7> ardchoille: isn't offtopic
[02:54] <josesito> someone knows a good ftp or file sharing server EASY TO USE???
[02:54] <uberspaced> i tried installing wine, and tried running 'wine INSTALL.EXE'
[02:54] <gholen> HI, compileing kernel (again) and hust wanna know if anyone's has been playng with the 2.6.17-7 kernel? please sen me info in /msg
[02:54] <crimsun> gholen: do you mean 2.6.17.7? We don't have a 2.6.17-7 yet.
[02:55] <EriK_> uberspaced: check out icculus.org they have a bunch of good stuff including a kick arse version of quake 3
[02:55] <dylan_> Is there a way that I can subsequently rename all the files in a directory in a specific way?  I want photos in a directory to be named 1.jpg, 2.jpg, etc., respectively
[02:56] <compotatoj> uberspaced, cedega is pretty good, but costs money... wine is free for windows games, there are some sites that you can google for if you want purely linux/opengl games
[02:56] <uberspaced> EriK_, thanks
[02:56] <EriK_> uberspaced: combined with the ultimateterror.net mod, it majorly kicks arse
[02:56] <compotatoj> uberspaced, wine isn't as good at cedega for games
[02:56] <gholen> crimsun: yes, sorry, yes, that one
[02:56] <uberspaced> that's ok; i just came accross a copy of an old game
[02:56] <gholen> Its going quite good i suspekt, but, i don't know
[02:56] <uberspaced> blood
[02:57] <uberspaced> i wanted to see if linux could play it
[02:57] <dylan_> Is there a way that I can subsequently rename all the files in a directory in a specific way?  I want photos in a directory to be named 1.jpg, 2.jpg, etc., respectively
[02:57] <ReWT_AxS> does ubuntu come with a non graphical/ non gui media player?
[02:57] <compotatoj> josesito, i've used vsftpd but there are plenty of other good ones
[02:57] <owen_> what is the name of the audio/mpeg plugin for gnomebaker i cant find it on synaptic
[02:57] <yey> mcphail: yey@YEY:~$ vim
[02:57] <yey> vim: error while loading shared libraries: libXm.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:57] <yey> mcphail: it seems that I will have to "make" it :)
[02:57] <josesito> compotatoj, i'm going to try it...thanks!
[02:58] <compotatoj> josesito, no problem, but i forgot to tell you vsftpd doesn't have a gui-- its command line based
[02:58] <toddobryan> OK. Loaded in safe graphics mode, monitor blinked all green about 3 times, then the power light started blinking, saying there was no signal. At that point, the keyboard also went dead, so that Num Lock and Caps Lock no longer turn on their lights.
[02:58] <compotatoj> josesito, most of the really good ones are, however some also come with guis
[02:58] <nu> whats the best way to install flash plug-in? through synaptic or downloading it from adobe's website?
[02:58] <QMario> How would I transform a group of images into one PS file?
[02:58] <compotatoj> josesito, look through synaptic's database
[02:58] <nu> !nvidia
[02:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:58] <toddobryan> Needless to say, Ctrl+Alt+F1 does not give me a command line interface.
[02:59] <ardchoille> visik7: AFAIK, you cannot edit an ISO file. If you find a tool that does it, it probably does copy, change, mkisofs. An ISO is a finalised file system.
[02:59] <josesito> compotatoj, i've tried proftpd, but didn't like it because it didn't have a gui....and i don't have enough time to read the man pages
[02:59] <visik7> ok so I need to get boot record out from the cd
[03:00] <toddobryan> This is actually kind of embarrassing. I teach high school and one of the kids successfully got FreeBSD running on this machine, but I can't get Ubuntu working.
[03:00] <nu> !restricted
[03:00] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:00] <MinceR> ^H works, but backspace doesn't. weird.
[03:00] <EriK_> josesito: I have been VERY happy with pure-ftpd, it's not very hard to make it do darned near anything, especially wrt authentication
[03:01] <josesito> EriK_, i just want to share some files such as documents or pics....just a single folder without needing any passwords or logins (for now)
[03:01] <dredhammer> thanks a lot Ronz worked like a charm
[03:01] <josesito> but thanks for the tip
[03:01] <visik7> ardchoille: do you know a tool that can do it ? (get the boot record of a cd out ?
[03:02] <dredhammer> now am i the only one who was confused over the partitioning bit with the new dapper drake install?
[03:02] <compotatoj> josesito, the config file for vsftp is very small and there are some easy default ones.. i could help you set it up, altough there are probably some better gui ones i just don't know of any off the top of my head
[03:02] <toddobryan> Does anybody have any suggestions? To recap, I run the install CD, get to the point the X server would start, and then the monitor goes dead.
[03:02] <dredhammer> on my main system i used to alternative cd to install
[03:02] <dredhammer> and not the regular one
[03:02] <josesito> compotatoj,  i'm looking at vsftp's config file right now
[03:02] <toddobryan> This has happened before, so I know to do Ctrl+Alt+F1 and work from there.
[03:02] <compotatoj> What is the easiest way of installing compiz using the AMD64 version of ubuntu?
[03:02] <dredhammer> so when i booted that up boy was i confused for a while
[03:03] <toddobryan> The problem is, on this machine, the PS2 keyboard also goes dead at that point.
[03:03] <toddobryan> dredhammer: with the alt CD, can you do the whole install in text mode?
[03:04] <EriK_> josesito: mine authenticates against the same backend as my vpopmail setup and a "user$domain" ftp login puts them in /vdomains/domains/$domain/$user from which ./web is their shared http content
[03:04] <dredhammer> yes
[03:04] <josesito> compotatoj, can you help me configure it??
[03:04] <compotatoj> josesito, ok
[03:04] <lavi> hi, if i wanna enter for a free translation task for ubuntu, what should I do?
[03:04] <dredhammer> all in all it was simpler to use than the new GUI one on the regular cds
[03:04] <EriK_> some dns wildcarding and apache mod_rewrite magic and http://$user.$domain/ is mapped to /vdomains/domains/$domain/$user/web/
[03:04] <compotatoj> josesito, do you want it to be public/anonymous or have users
[03:05] <josesito> anonymous for now
[03:05] <tanlaan> which is better to get, emacs or emacs21?
[03:06] <x86_> does anyone here know how i could make my webcam work with ubuntu? its a bison webcam built in a laptop
[03:06] <compotatoj> josesito, i would just read the comments and uncomment the stuff you need and comment the stuff you don't need and if you have any questions on clarification of certain ones ask me
[03:07] <josesito> ok i'll try it
[03:07] <josesito> thanks!
[03:07] <EriK_> josesito: unless you need uploading from users, why not just use http?
[03:07] <OPTiCO> Does anyone know how to reserve memory for a i810 gfx-card? It's configured to use 128mb in both bios and xorg.conf.
[03:07] <x86_> does anyone here know how i could make my webcam work with ubuntu? its a bison webcam built in a laptop
[03:07] <EriK_> it plays nicer with firewalls, port forwarding, etc.
[03:08] <optikalmouse_> archlinux is rick james!
[03:08] <optikalmouse_> and ubuntu!
[03:08] <optikalmouse_> is arch's bitch!
[03:08] <optikalmouse_> :D
[03:08] <josesito> EriK_, that would be the best
[03:08] <compotatoj> josesito, yeah, he is right... lol also you need to forward port 21 for ftp and port 80 for http if you are using a firewall/router
[03:08] <yozBuntu> haha rick james
[03:08] <compotatoj> josesito, install apache. that is the best
[03:09] <dredhammer> so anybody else red that formaly free linux ezine TUX?
[03:09] <josesito> but isn't it too complicated for an average user?
[03:09] <x86_> does anyone here know how i could make my webcam work with ubuntu? its a bison webcam built in a laptop
[03:09] <compotatoj> josesito, basically no config needed, just place files in /var/www/
[03:09] <EriK_> compotatoj:  don't forget the control port and the various passv crap
[03:09] <compotatoj> Has anyone gotten google talk (gmail chat) to work in gaim?
[03:10] <_joe> compotatoj: yes, it's easy, the gtalk page explains how
[03:10] <compotatoj> EriK_, only for ftp.
[03:10] <minerale> has anyone here had experience with proxomitron ? I'm trying to figure out a way so that my google searches are not indexed ( a cookie is not retrieved ) without runing access to gmail
[03:10] <EriK_> exactly, compotatoj!
[03:10] <compotatoj> _joe, last time i tried it, it worked in windows, but not in ubuntu
[03:10] <_joe> weird. worked fine for me :/
[03:10] <EriK_> that is exactly what I meant wrt to http being easier to herd
[03:11] <EriK_> josesito: apache is usually much simpler to install and maintain then an ftp server, and does many more neat tricks
[03:11] <compotatoj> josesito, get apache2 ... its newer
[03:11] <josesito> EriK_, do you know kde's kpf??
[03:12] <ReWT_AxS> someone help meh
[03:12] <EriK_> not a kde person, sorry
[03:13] <rdz> ReWT_AxS, i use mplayer. but i compiled it myseld.. it is worth, though..
[03:13] <ReWT_AxS> i got it fixed now
[03:13] <x86_> hello........bison webcam....driver.......ubuntu........help.......anyone.....?
[03:13] <ReWT_AxS> :)
[03:13] <ReWT_AxS> wrong event ;)
[03:13] <visik7> anyone know a tool that can show info about iso files ?
[03:13] <compotatoj> x86_, lol nobody knows... if you can't find it on google, it probably doesn't exist
[03:13] <ReWT_AxS> x86 hello..............google.....................search!
[03:13] <MinceR> x86_: maybe video4linux supports it?
[03:14] <EriK_> visik7:  ISOINFO(8)
[03:14] <gholen> if i have a 3 gb / , and it is filled to 2,6, what kan i remove?
[03:14] <visik7> thanks
[03:14] <compotatoj> visik7, do you mean like what is in it? you can open it using file roller
[03:14] <BlueEagle> x86_: lspci or lsusb and find the exact device name then stuff that into google adding linux after it and look for a solution.
[03:15] <visik7> compotatoj: yes but I get only file inside the iso not the boot record
[03:15] <EriK_> visik7:  it's /usr/bin/isoinfo on my system, I don't remember the command to find out what package provided it, but if somebody refreshes my memory I'll find out for ya
[03:15] <maelgwynau> gholen, use the Synaptic file manager and look for stuff you dont need
[03:15] <visik7> EriK_: yes yex I've it installed
[03:15] <EriK_> :)
[03:15] <salah> hello. I have a wireless card installed as eth0, and when I do i get eth0 connected to my private network. but I don't get any IP adress. and when I do "iwlist scan" I get: eth0     Interface doesn't support scanning: Operation not sipported .. what can be wrong?
[03:15] <maelgwynau> It really is just like those stuupid windows program
[03:15] <ardchoille> visik7: You can do:  sudo mkdir /mnt/ISO  then  sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 file.iso /mnt/ISO  to mount it, then you can browse it at your leisure
[03:16] <maelgwynau> Salah, are you sure your ethernet is working?  It should be eth1
[03:16] <BlueEagle> salah: are you doing that with sudo (ie as root)?
[03:16] <visik7> ardchoille: but I can't get the boot sector from it
[03:16] <cyphase> hmm, AMD might open-source the ATI drivers..
[03:16] <EriK_> salah: scan mode might require root
[03:16] <cyphase> innnnteresting
[03:16] <EriK_> oops, gmta
[03:16] <salah> EriK_ and BlueEagle, yes, it's root
[03:17] <toddobryan> salah: some wireless cards are a little obnoxious. Check the Ubuntu Wiki to see if yours is mentioned by name.
[03:17] <salah> maelgwynau, it's not ethernet, it's a wireless card
[03:17] <BlueEagle> salah: pastebin the output of your ifconfig please.
[03:17] <cyphase> and Intel already has
[03:17] <EriK_> stop taking words out of my mouth again, blueeagle
[03:17] <toddobryan> salah: there's a section on wireless cards, specifically.
[03:17] <BlueEagle> salah: or iwconfig if that's more appropriate.
[03:17] <salah> toddobryan, this has worked before
[03:17] <EriK_> salah: do an iwconfig at the same time, please
[03:17] <RuarriS> does anyone know of any fixes for trackpads for G4 ibook in ppc version?
[03:17] <EriK_> salah: is this using a native driver or ndiswrapper?
[03:17] <BlueEagle> erik_: I'm not taking them out of your mouth. I'm taking them out of your fingers.
[03:17] <BlueEagle> erik_: (unless you run some hefty speach recog software)
[03:17] <salah> BlueEagle, I have to write all the output for hang, can you give me what you are looking for?
[03:17] <EriK_> rofl :)  true enough
[03:17] <compotatoj> Is i386 much slower than the AMD64 version of ubuntu for regular stuff?
[03:18] <naut>  /etc/resolv.conf
[03:18] <ReWT_AxS> im amd 64 ubuntu
[03:18] <salah> EriK_, native drivers, I always just have putted the card in, restarted computer and it has worked, now I don't know why not
[03:18] <cyphase> Open Source Intel Graphics Drivers: http://intellinuxgraphics.org/
[03:18] <ReWT_AxS> it's just a processor
[03:18] <BlueEagle> salah: ahh ofcourse you do. I'm looking for the ip address that is assigned to your wireless NIC (if any=
[03:18] <BlueEagle> )
[03:18] <toddobryan> Back to my question: I tried the alt CD and it couldn't find (either of my two) NICs. This is a machine from the late 90s. Is it possible the motherboard isn't supported?
[03:18] <compotatoj> I have AMD64 ubuntu also, but i don't know if I should switch to i386 for compatibility issues
[03:19] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: Which NICs are they? (lspci should answer that question)
[03:19] <EriK_> salah: did you recently upgrade from badger to breezy?  I remember my atheros on my toshiba acting up, but I don't recall what I had to do to fix it
[03:19] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: You might need to load the drivers manually.
[03:19] <ReWT_AxS> lol
[03:19] <ReWT_AxS> are you 64 bit?
[03:19] <ReWT_AxS> or 32 bit?
[03:20] <toddobryan> Both D-Link. The card says DFE-530TX+ Rev.E1
[03:20] <xrothgarx> is there a way to make the vncserver start up at the login screen? so I can have a graphical login?
[03:20] <FreshPrince> gn8 @ all
[03:20] <EriK_> xrothgarx:  yes, adjust your gdm.conf file to start up the instances
[03:20] <salah> BlueEagle, when I do a ifconfig I get both eth0 and eth1 as ethernet cards, without any ip adress
[03:20] <EriK_> xrothgarx:  the stock conf file has some commented out entries for having it spawn vnc servers, iirc
[03:21] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: http://network.free-driver-download.com/D-Link/14604/D-link-DFE-530TX-Driver-Linux.html any help?
[03:21] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: found that by feeding google with: DFE-530TX  linux
[03:21] <toddobryan> Just put that on a floppy and load it?
[03:21] <EriK_> your laptop has a floppy drive?  amazing
[03:22] <MinceR> byte
[03:22] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: Seems you need to compile it.
[03:22] <Hoxzer> Vittu vittu
[03:22] <toddobryan> BlueEagle: Can I do that on the machine I'm on?
[03:22] <xrothgarx> EriK_ wher eis the gdm.conf located?
[03:22] <traviss> In computer:/// i have a sep slave drive called MUSIC. I cant mount it regardless of whether i am root or not. Is there an entry in fstab I need to add?
[03:23] <EriK_> xrothgarx:  /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[03:24] <JaZyLNX> does anyone know how to set the default app to open a spefice type.. for example i want xmms to open mp3's
[03:24] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: Never mind that. I found another link on google that reads: "Depends on which card, dfe-530tx is a via-rhine, dfe-530tx+ is rtl8139 I think, and I think I read something about some cards with a similar name using the tulip driver. But if is exactly dfe-530tx then it's the right driver."
[03:24] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: there should be a via-rhine module availible (let me double check that)
[03:24] <vaz> JaZyLnx : update codecs from  http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html
[03:25] <estimablesir> just bought an alienware m9700, had no problems on my old laptop, the system is sweet, but ubuntu won't even boot to the desktop
[03:25] <estimablesir> anyone know off the top of their head what could be wrong?
[03:25] <w3bmast3r101> hey is it possible to connect to two wireless networks using a single card?
[03:25] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: yes there is. Now if you know how to specify a module then the one you need is called: via-rhine
[03:25] <witless> is there a decent command-line cd ripper / encoder / tagger?  i used to use jack and it worked great but the title/track lookups aren't working anymore
[03:26] <JaZyLNX> vaz why do i have to update the codecs to set the default app
[03:26] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: if that doesn't work try the realtec driver (rtl8139) or the tulip driver (tulip)
[03:26] <rdz> w3bmast3r101, depends on your wifi card
[03:26] <rdz> w3bmast3r101, but i am not an expert in this stuff
[03:26] <w3bmast3r101> rdz: alright, i'll just have a look at the forums, thnx though
[03:26] <vaz> Bluetooth ( Broadcom) not detected on Ubuntu 6.6 any ideas
[03:27] <FantasticFoo> what's that desktop thing that the xubuntu package installs?
[03:27] <traviss> In computer:/// i have a sep slave drive called MUSIC. I cant mount it regardless of whether i am root or not. Is there an entry in fstab I need to add?
[03:27] <FantasticFoo> the app that shows your ~/Desktop contents
[03:27] <FantasticFoo> on the desktop
[03:27] <vaz> JaZy>nx: Misunderstood your question thought your mp3 codecs werent working
[03:27] <ardchoille> FantasticFoo: You mean the XFCE desktop environment?
[03:27] <JaZyLNX> oh
[03:27] <BlueEagle> vaz: usb dongle?
[03:27] <toddobryan> BlueEagle: It's actually DFE-530TX+, so is that the RealTek?
[03:28] <rdz> JaZyLNX, i wondering too. i'm almost sure, there is a gui interface somewher to set it in ubuntu
[03:28] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: odds are it is.
[03:28] <bitwise_> anyone have a simple howto to get started with rails?
[03:28] <bitwise_> from installing in dapper on...
[03:28] <vaz> no on an acer 5562
[03:28] <FantasticFoo> i want to locate the program that shows your files on the desktop, that's installed with xubuntu, similar to nautilus for gnome
[03:28] <wirelain> is the install ... sticky at 98% ?
[03:28] <JaZyLNX> there is in system pref.. but it doesn't let you set the audo
[03:28] <JaZyLNX> audio
[03:28] <vaz> but its detected as a usb
[03:28] <ardchoille> FantasticFoo: I believe that is xfdesk
[03:28] <vaz> on windows
[03:28] <FantasticFoo> ardchoille: thanks
[03:28] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[03:28] <BlueEagle> vaz: lspci and look for anything remotely looking like bluetooth and hand us that line.
[03:28] <estimablesir> so is it normal for ubuntu not to work on an alineware...is it a driver issue? it won't even boot to the desktop
[03:29] <BlueEagle> vaz: if there's noting there try lsusb just for the kicks to see if you find something there :)
[03:29] <xrothgarx> EriK_ /etc/gdm/gdm.conf doesn't exist (I tried which gdm.conf and didn't get any results also)
[03:29] <xrothgarx> would it matter that I am using kubuntu?
[03:29] <EriK_> xrothgarx:  yes
[03:29] <EriK_> xrothgarx:  you are likely using kdm
[03:29] <BlueEagle> xrothgarx: kubuntu uses kdm
[03:29] <xrothgarx> ahh, sorry forgot that minor detail
[03:29] <xrothgarx> makes sence ;)
[03:29] <toddobryan> BlueEagle: Thanks. Rebooting. If I can't figure out how to specify the module, I'll be back. :-)
[03:30] <EriK_> it can probably be configured to do the exact same thing, but I don't have any experience with it
[03:30] <vaz> 0000:00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2 EHCI Co ntroller (rev 02)
[03:30] <vaz> 0000:00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev e2)
[03:30] <vaz> 0000:00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GBM (ICH7-M) LPC Interface Bridg e (rev 02)
[03:30] <estimablesir> anybody? i'm ver depressed without my ubuntu!!
[03:30] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: I assume you'll be back even if you can find it.
[03:30] <BlueEagle> !pastebin > vaz
[03:30] <donpachi> estimablesir, what happens when you start ubuntu?
[03:30] <BlueEagle> vaz: and neither of them have got anything to do with bluetooth afaik
[03:30] <vaz> Oh sorry
[03:31] <vaz> didnt know
[03:31] <estimablesir> i gets through the hardware detection and then just stops
[03:31] <donpachi> stops...like hangs or stops at a black screen?
[03:31] <estimablesir> black screen, i can type
[03:31] <donpachi> you cant type and letter appear on the screen?
[03:31] <Yashiro_Nanakase> i'm getting problems to configure wine sound emulation
[03:32] <BlueEagle> vaz: so nothing looking like bluetooth returned with lsusb either?
[03:32] <Yashiro_Nanakase> :(
[03:32] <wirelain> estimablesir: how much ram?
[03:32] <estimablesir> 1 gig
[03:32] <vaz> no
[03:32] <BlueEagle> vaz: I see. How about broadcom?
[03:32] <EriK_> vaz: I've had my worst experiences with ubu wrt bluetooth.  Two seperate bt dongles would not work or worked badly on my toshiba laptop, but would sometimes act better if put on a usb 1.1 hub.  It was horrid
[03:32] <BlueEagle> vaz: got any lines with that?
[03:32] <vaz> but what was weird was when I used Kubuntu 6.o6 it worked
[03:32] <EriK_> plugged one of the same bt dongles (silicon radio) into a usb2 hub on my xenon desktop.....
[03:32] <jn> mplayer audio in out of sync.. i see the auto auto sync but im not sure what to set it at, every setting i try is off
[03:32] <vaz> nothing with broadcom
[03:33] <EriK_> had obex to my phone and btsco audio to my headset in about ~5 minutes of mucking
[03:33] <estimablesir> it just seems like it stops, i can type things on the screen so it's not completely frozen
[03:33] <vaz> could it be maybe the kernel?
[03:33] <wirelain> estimablesir: how long have you let it sit?
[03:33] <BlueEagle> vaz: do you see BCM2033 anywhere then?
[03:33] <Rea_> Hey people.. Is it possible to go straight to the installation of Ubuntu without loading up the live version??  downloaded Ubuntu Desktop 6.06
[03:34] <EriK_> Rea: that is what the server iso is for
[03:34] <BlueEagle> vaz: or BCM anything
[03:35] <inono> How do I turn up my microphone volume?
[03:35] <BlueEagle> vaz: (hint: lspci|grep BCM)
[03:35] <EriK_> inono:  with a mixer, amixer from a shell prompt should do you
[03:35] <BlueEagle> rea_: Yes but that requires that you download the alternative installation CD afaik.
[03:35] <wirelain> estimablesir: from the boot cd ... it takes time right there ... go take a nap.
[03:36] <vaz> Ethernet controller
[03:36] <toddobryan> BlueEagle: Couldn't figure it out. It says go back to Detect Network Hardware step, but what do I do there?
[03:37] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: hmm... if you press ALT+F3 or ALT+F4 does that give you a terminal?
[03:37] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: if so you can type: modprobe rtl8139 or what ever that driver was named again. :)
[03:37] <Rea_> oh noo... i Just spent 6 days downloading..  I want to install it, but it runs the live version, and cant load XWindows, because not enough memory  so i just get the "live" console... but no idea how to run install from there..
[03:37] <estimablesir> donpachi are you able to see my messagesin the pm?
[03:38] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: yes rtl8139 if that errs you can try tulip and that other one... via-rhine
[03:38] <donpachi> estimablesir: not seeing them...
[03:38] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: either that or look for an option to install modules
[03:38] <estimablesir> ::sigh:: i'm having no luck today lol
[03:38] <blind> For some reason, the hotkeys in VLC have stopped working for me, (ie Space for play/pause, shift+up for fast forward, etc).. what could be the cause of this and how would I fix it?
[03:38] <donpachi> hehe..
[03:38] <root> slu
[03:39] <vaz> Ethernet Controller :Broadcom orporation BCM5789 Gigabit Ethernet PCI express
[03:39] <BlueEagle> rea_: Well you can always go to someone with a better line and download it there?
[03:39] <estimablesir> well anyone, i have geforce 7900 gs, per your original question
[03:39] <inono> ahhh nice my mic is up
[03:39] <BlueEagle> vaz: Nope, that's not it. :/
[03:39] <estimablesir> *anyway
[03:39] <root> francais?
[03:40] <BlueEagle> vaz: tell you what. Why don't you go to ubuntu.pastebin.com and paste the complete output from lspci there?
[03:40] <EriK_> I just got a new laptop a few days ago and it has onboard broadcom wifi.  Right now I am running ubu in vmware under the factory xp install
[03:40] <toddobryan> BlueEagle: Module rtl8139 not found.
[03:40] <BlueEagle> vaz: and throw in the output of lsusb too just for good measure.
[03:40] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: o'rly?
[03:40] <toddobryan> BlueEagle: But both tulip and via-rhine seemed to load okay.
[03:40] <toddobryan> But didn't help with the card detection.
[03:40] <toddobryan> BlueEagle: Yeah.
[03:41] <EriK_> going to swap the broadcom minipci card for a spare atheros rather then deal with ndiswrapper nonsense
[03:41] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: lsmod|grep tulip && lsmod|grep via-rhine
[03:41] <toddobryan> BlueEagle: Could they possibly have not included it?
[03:41] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: I wouldn't think so. It's one of the most common drivers.
[03:41] <donpachi> so are you hanging on install? or boot?
[03:41] <estimablesir> on boot
[03:41] <Rea_> oh noo...  i see now: Alternate ISO "installs on systems with less than about 192MB of RAM.".... :(   i have just 64MB and the Desktop version...   :_(   cant wait another 6 days..
[03:42] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: try modprobe 8139too
[03:42] <Pulshion> Hi, Everytime i try to login to my user ubuntu keeps kicking me out bak to login screen, it takes 2/3 times to actually get logged in. Does anyone have the same problem? Also when i logout of the session i end up at non functional login screen.
[03:42] <estimablesir> i sent you a messagen ot sure you can read it though
[03:42] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: and for good measure throw in 8139cp
[03:42] <toddobryan> BlueEagle: tulip 51782 0
[03:42] <donpachi> and can you boot into recovery mode?
[03:42] <wirelain> estimablesir: have you just let it sit for ... a half hour or so?
[03:43] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: and then do lsmod|grep 8139
[03:43] <Pulshion> donpachi -- if me, then yes i can boot it in normal gnome but it only works from like 2nd 3rd try
[03:43] <estimablesir> didn't try it, i'll try recovery mode, i'm new to ubuntu, how do you boot into recovery mode
[03:43] <estimablesir> ...dam
[03:43] <toddobryan> BlueEagle: 8139too seemed to work.
[03:43] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: did you get the card detected?
[03:43] <BlueEagle> cards*
[03:43] <EriK_> Rea_:  1995 called, they want that pair of 32MB SIMMs back.
[03:44] <toddobryan> BlueEagle: But didn't help with detection.
[03:44] <Rea_> hehe
[03:44] <EriK_> :)
[03:44] <toddobryan> BlueEagle: Is modprobe 8139too all I should need to do?
[03:44] <donpachi> recovery mode should be one of the options under the GRUB menu...
[03:44] <Maje> I'm having a problem installing ATI's proprietary drivers..after installing, fglrxinfo is reporting "Mesa" as my OpenGL renderer, even though I have xorg.conf sorted out and have run aticonfig
[03:44] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: in theory, yes.
[03:44] <estimablesir> k, assuming it does work and it has something to do with my video card is there any way around it?
[03:44] <Pulshion> Hi, Everytime i try to login to my user ubuntu keeps kicking me out bak to login screen, it takes 2/3 times to actually get logged in. Does anyone have the same problem? Also when i logout of the session i end up at non functional login screen.
[03:45] <tate_> mayday, mayday.  How can I regenerate my .Xauthority file?
[03:45] <EriK_> toddobryan:  after the modprobe, do an ifconfig and see if you are the proud parent of a new puppy
[03:45] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: now lspci does return the same string for both cards bar the PCI address?
[03:45] <|thunder> ive install a bunch of codecs with automatix. but i still cant play a dvr-ms file with any player. its just mpeg2. Any ideas?
[03:45] <toddobryan> I'll check both of those.
[03:45] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell |thunder about automatix
[03:45] <toddobryan> Sorry this is taking so long; the other computer is across the room.
[03:45] <|thunder> ive got automatix
[03:45] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: Well atleast you get some exercise. :)
[03:46] <|thunder> and used it to  install all of the codecs
[03:46] <elhaxxorz> Hey all, #cups is dead, anyone willing to try and get a printer working for me?
[03:46] <BlueEagle> did that change?
[03:46] <BlueEagle> !automatix
[03:46] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[03:46] <Pulshion> Hi, Everytime i try to login to my user ubuntu keeps kicking me out bak to login screen, it takes 2/3 times to actually get logged in. Does anyone have the same problem? Also when i logout of the session i end up at non functional login screen. Could anyone help?
[03:46] <BlueEagle> |thunder: ahh, there you go: "Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix."
[03:47] <Madpilot> BlueEagle, the automatix tell is far more polite now that it has been in the past
[03:47] <BlueEagle> |thunder: didn't ubotu send you that line in a /msg?
[03:47] <toddobryan> BlueEagle: Both ifconfig and lspci produce nothing.
[03:47] <BlueEagle> madpilot: I can see that.
[03:47] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: lspci doesn't return your network cards?
[03:47] <toddobryan> BlueEagle: What I didn't notice before is that the terminal I had was called "BusyBox".
[03:47] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: Are they ISA cards by any chance?
[03:47] <|thunder> yes. i suppose it did. but im asking if anyone knows hhow to get dvd-ms files to play. not an automatix related question.
[03:47] <donpachi> no way to bypass, but if you can boot into console mode you might be able to read some logs and diagnose the errors
[03:48] <toddobryan> BlueEagle: F3 and F4 didn't work, but F2 gave a command line with a ~# prompt.
[03:48] <Coruscant> which do i download for ubuntu the rpm or the "other" file for limewire?
[03:48] <vaz> blueeagle: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20163
[03:48] <estimablesir> alright i'll give it a shot, thanks don
[03:48] <BlueEagle> |thunder: If it's installed with automatix it's not really certain that people that didn't use automatix is having the same problem.
[03:48] <toddobryan> BlueEagle: Nope. Both PCI.
[03:48] <tate_> mayday, mayday.  How can I regenerate my .Xauthority file?
[03:48] <elhaxxorz> use the rpm and convert to .deb using alien, Coruscant
[03:48] <Maje> I'm having a problem installing ATI's proprietary drivers..after installing, fglrxinfo is reporting "Mesa" as my OpenGL renderer, even though I have xorg.conf sorted out and have run aticonfig
[03:48] <EriK_> that is what you get for having that oversized Bourgeoisie room.
[03:48] <Coruscant> where is the converter at? el?
[03:48] <EriK_> (j/k)
[03:48] <toddobryan> BlueEagle: Like I said, though, the motherboard is kinda old. Is it possible it's not supported on the CD?
[03:49] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: ...and nothing about d-link, realtek or tulip in lspci?
[03:49] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: pci is also old and it's supported :)
[03:49] <elhaxxorz> Coruscant, just 'sudo apt-get install alien' then 'sudo alien (filename)'
[03:49] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: sounds to me like you might want to try to remove one of the cards.
[03:49] <Coruscant> elhaxxorz there is no online downloader?
[03:49] <Rea_> EriK_: so there is no way i can install it from the Desktop CD, i have to download the Alternate one ?
[03:50] <elhaxxorz> Coruscant, not under Linux
[03:50] <Coruscant> nice thanks
[03:50] <EriK_> with that little ram, I doubt it
[03:50] <elhaxxorz> Coruscant, i can make you a .deb and send it to you if you want me to
[03:50] <toddobryan> BlueEagle: Literally NOTHING when I do lspci. It prints nothing but the next command prompt.
[03:50] <BlueEagle> vaz: this is a laptop, right?
[03:50] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: o'rly?
[03:50] <Coruscant> i can do it teach me how to do it cause ill have to do it alot more
[03:50] <vaz> Blueeagle: yes acer aspire 5562WXMi
[03:51] <toddobryan> BlueEagle: But I'll kill the computer and take out one NIC just for the heck of it.
[03:51] <elhaxxorz> Coruscant, okay. Download the RPM then
[03:51] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: ahh  you're on the installation cd still, right?
[03:51] <toddobryan> BlueEagle: I can never remember which is eth0 and which is eth1 anyway.
[03:51] <toddobryan> BlueEagle: Yes. Still installation CD.
[03:51] <bitwise_> how would i undo a 'sudo apt-get install rails'
[03:51] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: You might want to continue the installation w/o installing the network right now.
[03:51] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: You can always do that later.
[03:51] <Coruscant> ill be back in like an hour elhaxxorz will you still be here to help cause im pretty noobish at debian based linux?
[03:51] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: ...and I'm pretty sure we can get them working. :)
[03:51] <|thunder> bitwise_, remove instead of install
[03:52] <toddobryan> BlueEagle: Are you sure of that?
[03:52] <toddobryan> :-)
[03:52] <toddobryan> OK. Here goes.
[03:52] <elhaxxorz> Coruscant, you have gaim?
[03:52] <bmwm5> APPEARS AS ARMANDO
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[03:52] <bmwm5> Hello allz, how do iz install linuckz on windows PLS? so i can squeeze the pigeon
[03:52] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: is 85% good enough?
[03:52] <bitwise_> what about dependencies that it installed?
[03:52] <Coruscant> yea
[03:52] <elhaxxorz> then IM me as el haxxorz
[03:52] <|thunder> bitwise_, try complete removal in synaptic
[03:52] <|thunder> but im not sure
[03:53] <Coruscant> elhaxxorz what is your s/n
[03:53] <elhaxxorz> Coruscant, just let me know who you are i dont plan to be on here too long
[03:53] <elhaxxorz> Coruscant, el haxxorz
[03:53] <BlueEagle> vaz: is it a wired and a wireless network card on your machine?
[03:53] <bitwise_> ok thanks
[03:53] <vaz> yes
[03:53] <vaz> i got both working
[03:54] <walkingmac> noob looking for help
[03:54] <quiche> I lose 3D accel whenever I try to update fglrx drivers, any ideas?
[03:55] <rpedro> quiche: what does fglrxinfo say_
[03:55] <fredie> hi
[03:55] <walkingmac> (new to linux) I burned a livecd of Ubuntu and try to get it to load on a dell laptop and it doesn't seem to load. Any thoughts?
[03:55] <jordan__> Do you know what a good wysiwig editor is(Preferably like frontpage or Dreamweaver)
[03:55] <dasos> walkingmac, check the bios settings to see which device it boots from
[03:55] <fredie> help
[03:55] <quiche> rpedro, I've since reverted the drivers, but when using the newest versions, fglrxinfo says mesa indirect
[03:55] <fredie> help tuquito
[03:56] <BlueEagle> vaz: apperantly your "Network controller: Intel Corporation: Unknown device 4222 (rev 02)" should be responsible for bluetooth
[03:56] <walkingmac> ya... went into the setup and set it to the cd drive and then exit and it loads M$
[03:56] <BlueEagle> vaz: looking for the required driver and a way to get it installed.
[03:56] <walkingmac> unless I am missing something (haven't used M$ in a LONG time)
[03:56] <rpedro> quiche: ok, take a look a this thread, there's a few tips for fixing problems with 3d on ATI cards >> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=143283
[03:57] <dasos> walkingmac, check once again to see if CD is the first boot device and make sure you saved it (simple mistake, i've done it plenty of times)
[03:57] <rpedro> quiche: usually for me just making a symbolic link from /usr/lib/dri fixes it
[03:57] <Madpilot> jordan_, there's NVU - but you should learn HTML & handcode - try Bluefish or Screem for that
[03:57] <BlueEagle> vaz: the device should be a "Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network w/Bluetooth" if I am not mistaking.
[03:57] <dasos> MS windows shouldn't have anything to do with it if you aren't booting into the CD
[03:58] <azureal> is there a great comic relief channel on freenode?
[03:58] <jordan__> Hello Does anybody know a good wysiwig for ubuntu?
[03:58] <EriK_> walking: do you get a message of any sort that it is trying to load linux or an orange ubuntu logo?
[03:58] <dasos> walkingmac, also, make sure you burned the image correctly, sometimes its the disk
[03:58] <walkingmac> ok... see ya.. it never asked for confirmation that I wanted to save those settings, just exit like I didn't do anything
[03:58] <EriK_> jordan: wysiwyg WHAT?
[03:58] <vaz> BlueEagle : it was loaded as broadcom on windows with a widcomm USB2.0 drivers
[03:58] <EriK_> Drawing?  Painting?  Page layout?  HTML editor?
[03:58] <walkingmac> Erik- no... just from setup to windows
[03:59] <EriK_> walkingmac: you need to either change your bios boot order or see if it has a key to 'select boot device'
[03:59] <walkingmac> could be the disc I guess, I made it on my mac, but using toast 6. windows seems to play the browser just fine tho
[03:59] <EriK_> on both my hp and toshiba laptops, F12 when it is turned on will let you select where to boot from
[03:59] <BlueEagle> vaz: o
[04:00] <BlueEagle> vaz: o'rly?
[04:00] <vaz> BlueEagle: yes
[04:00] <visik7> Reconstructor is cool
[04:00] <visik7> really cool
[04:00] <EriK_> reconstructor does what?
[04:01] <vaz> Blueeagle: what do you think about this USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 02)
[04:01] <dasos> walkingmac, if you're going to check the bios again, there might be some tabs/pages in there you have to navigate to that says "save and quit"
[04:01] <BlueEagle> vaz: I think that it's the usb root hub (Enhanced Host Controller Interface)
[04:01] <vaz> BlueEagle: line12
[04:01] <cyphase> http://www.dappit.com/
[04:01] <vaz> ok
[04:02] <BlueEagle> vaz: UHCI being Universal Host Controller Interface. (EHCI is usb 2.0 iirc)
[04:02] <visik7> EriK_: is a tool to create a custom ubuntu live cd
[04:02] <visik7> and install
[04:02] <azureal> walkingmac, i'd have to agree w/ dasos to make sure your bios is setup correctly
[04:02] <visik7> EriK_: you can add and remove repos software and other things
[04:02] <visik7> EriK_: I'm testing it right now
[04:02] <BlueEagle> vaz: but do you have a usb mouse connected to your lappy?
[04:02] <rpedro> quiche: try 'cd /usr/lib/xorg/modules/ && sudo ln -s /usr/lib/dri' then 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart' (save all your work before you run this second command it restarts the X server)
[04:02] <BlueEagle> vaz: or anything on any usb ports?
[04:02] <visik7> EriK_: unfortunatly it supports only gnome right now but is a great tool
[04:02] <quiche> rpedro, actually I should mention I'm trying to get the 8.27 drivers, not the "official"  8.25 ones
[04:03] <vaz> BlueEagle: well I have 3 usb ports but now  4 showup
[04:03] <vaz> no
[04:03] <BlueEagle> vaz: nothign connected to any usb ports you say?
[04:03] <walkingmac> I am just not seeing anything about save... very wierd
[04:03] <quiche> rpedro, the instructions from the link you posted seem to be assuming 8.25 drivers, which I can already get to install ok
[04:03] <BlueEagle> vaz: Well that's mystifying.
[04:03] <|thunder> Erik, can you remove open office with it ?
[04:03] <EriK_> On a side note, wow.  I've been lurking in here for a while.  Today is the first time I've participated, and I feel like I am both learning a lot and am providing at least a tiny shred of help to others.
[04:03] <vaz> BlueEagle: yes count me in on the mystified
[04:03] <BlueEagle> vaz: It appears that your bluetooth device is being identified as a logitech device.
[04:04] <BlueEagle> vaz: ..and that's down to someone using an ID they weren't supposed to use in their hardware methinks.
[04:04] <vaz> Blueeagle: I think its confusing that with my orbicam
[04:04] <quiche> rpedro, I was using the mirror.ubuntulinux.nl repository, which has pre-built debs from the ati 8.27 installer, but after installing I'm unable to get away from mesa indirect rendering
[04:04] <tate_> Quake4 kills my x-server
[04:05] <EriK_> thunder: remove openoffice with what?
[04:05] <walkingmac> weird.... I had to disable the HHD
[04:05] <rpedro> quiche: oh, any specific reason your running the installer from the ati site? it's really much simpler to use the packages from ubuntu repositories
[04:05] <vaz> BlueEagle: that dont work either but that seems to be a universal problem
[04:05] <tate_> I mean kills it so I have to reinstall ubuntu
[04:05] <rpedro> quiche: prebuilt deb?
[04:05] <BlueEagle> vaz: got a webcam by any chance? (like integrated in the screen or anything?)
[04:05] <ceruleantiger> when I try to ssh into my desktop from my laptop, I cannot get in. My desktop is behind a router, and the laptop is connected wirelessly to the same router. Am I missing something? It says connection refused... It's the same when I go from desktop-> laptop
[04:05] <quiche> rpedro, afaik, 8.27 isn't available officially as a package
[04:06] <rpedro> quiche: then it maybe that fix works to for your problem
[04:06] <ceruleantiger> note: my laptop is running osx, and my desktop is ubuntu, so is it something weird with osx?
[04:06] <vaz> BlueEagle: Yes its the orbicam and thats what I think it has confused as logitech its seems to not work on all aspires running ubuntu
[04:06] <BlueEagle> vaz: The device in question would be the Acer OrbiCam
[04:06] <thaixstyle> hello folks...
[04:06] <quiche> rpedro, huh? lol
[04:06] <walkingmac> am I going to need to go back into the BIOS when I am done testing linux and re-enable the harddrive?
[04:06] <rpedro> quiche: just check if you have a directory named /usr/lib/xorg/modules/dri , I'll wait
[04:06] <BlueEagle> vaz: Well that clarifies that mystery.
[04:07] <BlueEagle> vaz: Drivers are not ready for that cam yet. Apperantly coming in V4L2
[04:07] <thaixstyle> i noticed that whenever i double click on the CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor, my mouse turns into the "move" hand and becomes useless
[04:07] <quiche> rpedro, i do not have that directory
[04:07] <vaz> 5 usb devices but only 3 usb ports
[04:07] <thaixstyle> i end up doing ctrl-alt-backspace
[04:07] <rpedro> quiche: or rather, it should be a symbolic link
[04:07] <thaixstyle> is this a common issue?
[04:07] <ed1t> how do i open an application with sudo something from terminal but stay in the background so it doesnt close when i close terminal window ?
[04:07] <rpedro> quiche: ok, then try that command I gave
[04:07] <quiche> rpedro, how do I check for that?
[04:07] <quiche> rpedro, I'll look
[04:08] <BlueEagle> vaz: Well you can count on your machine having more devices than acutal ports. It's not uncommin.
[04:08] <BlueEagle> uncommon*
[04:08] <rpedro> quiche: 'ls /usr/lib/xorg/modules/dri'
[04:08] <vaz> is there a difference in the way kubuntu and ubuntu configure devices?
[04:08] <BlueEagle> vaz: Still doesn't help in locating the illusive bluetooth device tho.
[04:08] <quiche> rpedro, no such file or directory
[04:08] <vaz> no
[04:08] <BlueEagle> vaz: There should be no difference tbh.
[04:08] <rpedro> quiche: try 'cd /usr/lib/xorg/modules/ && sudo ln -s /usr/lib/dri' then 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart' (save all your work before you run this second command it restarts the X server)
[04:09] <BlueEagle> vaz: if you had the lspci and lsusb from kubuntu that would really help.
[04:09] <EriK_> visik7:  I had been planning to play with 'bootcd' that proclaims to "Build an image of your running Debian System with the command bootcdwrite. You can also build a bootcd ISO image via NFS on a remote System. When you run your system from CD you do not need any disks. All changes will be done in ram"
[04:09] <BlueEagle> vaz: if you could boot the kubuntu live cd and post it that would really be helpful.
[04:09] <EriK_> visik7:  have you played with that at all?
[04:09] <nalioth> !tell ed1t about gksudo
[04:09] <visik7> EriK_: with bootcd ?
[04:09] <nalioth> !tell ed1t about kdesu
[04:09] <vaz> dont have the cd with me right now
[04:09] <quiche> rpedro, actually, seeing as I currently have the working 8.25 drivers, I think it's best I reinstall the 8.27 drivers that I was having trouble with before before running any troubleshooting commands...
[04:09] <vaz> gave it to a friend
[04:09] <BlueEagle> vaz: ok.
[04:10] <vaz> BlueEagle: thank you for all your effort will get the cd and post
[04:10] <rpedro> quiche: you have them both installed !?
[04:10] <quiche> rpedro, I just found this site, which uses a different method, I'll be back when I've finished upgrading this second time ( http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide )
[04:10] <UbuntuJulez> hind3nburg, how do I activate the "back" and "forward" buttons on my mouse for web browsing?
[04:10] <rpedro> quiche: alright
[04:10] <quiche> rpedro, no, i uninstalled the newer, buggy ones, and went back to ones that worked for me
[04:10] <UbuntuJulez> grr..that should be hello or hi
[04:10] <BlueEagle> vaz: Well I must say that I am seriously stumped by this. :/
[04:10] <EriK_> vis: yes, as compared to reconstructor
[04:10] <UbuntuJulez> not a screen name
[04:11] <BlueEagle> vaz: the best suspects I've got is the network controller and the TI device. Of the two the former is the most likely imo.
[04:11] <visik7> EriK_: no I just trying reconstructor right now for the first time
[04:11] <owen_> how do you fix your file browser computer window, to show certain partitions?
[04:11] <BlueEagle> vaz: I am assuming that you haven't got wireless network working yet.
[04:11] <visik7> EriK_: seems It has some problem integrating some tool
[04:11] <visik7> EriK_: anyway is written in python
[04:11] <vaz> BlueEagle: No that worked out of the box
[04:11] <UbuntuJulez> owen_, if they are non-linux partititions, that may be why they aren't showing
[04:11] <visik7> EriK_: maybe I can read the source and write some docs
[04:11] <AstralJava> Heheh, I had bugzilla installation on for 6,5 hours (on a slow machine), and it still wasn't ready. It had eaten nearly 20 GB of disk space. Wonder what's going on with that... :)
[04:11] <visik7> EriK_: I'll see
[04:12] <EriK_> vis: then you might want to look at bootcd as well since it claims to do the same thing
[04:12] <vaz> everything works except for bluetooth and orbicam
[04:12] <ReWT_AxS> how do i burn an iso here in ubuntu?
[04:12] <BlueEagle> vaz: o'rly?
[04:12] <vaz> yeah
[04:12] <visik7> EriK_: let me see
[04:12] <vaz> ubuntu is fantastic
[04:12] <EriK_> heya Capsters!  Somebody I actually know!!! :))
[04:12] <BlueEagle> vaz: even if the network contorller is listed as "unknown device"? o.O
[04:12] <UbuntuJulez> anyone know how to activate other buttons on a mouse? such as back and forward web browing buttons
[04:12] <KrisW> hello yet again. What are some common causes for not being able to su into one user's login?
[04:13] <vaz> well I am on a wireless network now
[04:13] <KrisW> the same user isn't able to ssh in either
[04:13] <BlueEagle> vaz: Well then I'm really without any clue what so ever :(
[04:13] <visik7> EriK_: can you give me an url ?
[04:13] <capgadget> cdrecord  -overburn dev=/dev/cdrom filewhatever.iso
[04:13] <BlueEagle> vaz: How do you know that bluetooth isn't working? How did you test it?
[04:13] <visik7> EriK_: oh is a package
[04:14] <vaz> well I used bluez-utils
[04:14] <ReWT_AxS> any gui that does it?
[04:14] <visik7> EriK_: but creates a live or an installer ?
[04:14] <vaz> it cannot find a device
[04:14] <EriK_> visik: yes, 'bootcd' is the pkg name, I don't have it on this machine but I'm apt-get'ing it now
[04:14] <BlueEagle> vaz: Well then I really do not know, sorry. :/
[04:14] <vaz> plus the power button doesnt light up
[04:14] <visik7> EriK_:  reconstructor create a livecd-installer
[04:14] <visik7> not only a livecd
[04:15] <vaz> BlueEagle: thank you and no worries. If I find the solution I ll put it up on the forum
[04:15] <EriK_> ahhhhhhhhhhhhh, but one that has the espresso or whatever installer, etc.
[04:15] <martalli> I just installed nvidia drivers through automatix, and I appear to have nice, accelerated graphics, but now my screen resolution is stuck at 800x600.  I ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-corg to reset my options (I had to do that in the first place, actually).  Even after reboot, I have no other options other than 800x600.  See my xorg.conf (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20164), seems like I should have 1280x1024 and 1024x768, too....
[04:15] <martalli> Is there another way to change the screen resolution?
[04:15] <vaz> BlueEagle: take care and bye
[04:15] <visik7> EriK_: espresso ?
[04:15] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell martalli about automatix
[04:16] <KrisW> can anyone help me with su?
[04:16] <EriK_> whatever the graphical installer on the ubuntu live cd is called
[04:16] <EriK_> something coffee-related
[04:16] <azureal> does synaptic depend on gnome?
[04:16] <martalli> my question's not really automatix related...but looking for another way to change screen resolution...
[04:16] <EriK_> gnome no, gtk/etc., yes
[04:17] <BlueEagle> azureal: I think it uses gtk which incidentally is the same widget library that gnome uses
[04:17] <martalli> azureal - kubuntu and mepis  use synaptic, also
[04:17] <azureal> i'm just about to uninstall gnome, so i'm wondering what i'll lose =P
[04:17] <visik7> kubuntu use adept not synaptic
[04:17] <KrisW> when I try to su into one user I'm returned to the prompt of whatever user I was before I tried to su, but I can su into all other users
[04:17] <azureal> the only thing i'll miss is the gnome-volume-control, i think ;)
[04:17] <visik7> but you can still use synaptic if you like
[04:17] <martalli> Ahh, then maybe only mepis
[04:17] <BlueEagle> martalli: If it you've used automatix than all your questions are automatix related as it was automatix that borked your config.
[04:17] <KrisW> :-/
[04:17] <martalli> ok bluueeagle, i'll ask there
[04:18] <BlueEagle> martalli: The only way we can get automatix to behave properly is to make the developers see what is wrong with automatix.
[04:18] <toddobryan> BlueEagle: Haven't died. It's just taking forever to install. :-)
[04:18] <BlueEagle> martalli: so please please go there and ask them. :)
[04:18] <KrisW> does anyone here know anything at all about su?
[04:18] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: Well on a machine from the 90-s that's to be expected. How are you for ram on that box?
[04:19] <KrisW> I mean with 779 users in the channel (most idle but even then...) *someone*'s gotta know
[04:19] <azureal> your question is not comprehendable, krisw
[04:19] <BlueEagle> krisw: su or sudo?
[04:19] <toddobryan> Umm...1.5gigs.
[04:19] <KrisW> su
[04:19] <KrisW> sudo su - root
[04:19] <KrisW> for example
[04:19] <KrisW> works fine
[04:19] <martalli> What in particular do you want to know about su?
[04:19] <BlueEagle> krisw: what is there to know about su?
[04:19] <azureal> KrisW, go scroll back and re-read what you wrote
[04:19] <BlueEagle> ...or rather what do you want to know about su? (as martalli asked)
[04:20] <toddobryan> We were using it as a thin-client server. Dual 800MHz P5s, and nice amounts of memory. But it is old.
[04:20] <ReWT_AxS> what program burns iso's in linux?
[04:20] <KrisW> sudo su - username isn't working for one username
[04:20] <KrisW> the rest all work fine
[04:20] <yey> hi
[04:20] <martalli> ReWt_AxS k3b (in kde distros)
[04:20] <KrisW> I'm not sure how to phrase it any better
[04:20] <azureal> 'the rest' ???
[04:20] <bimberi> ReWT_AxS: nautilus, right-click on the iso file, select write to disc
[04:20] <KrisW> yes, all other usernames
[04:20] <ReWT_AxS> k
[04:20] <KrisW> I don't see how this is so complicated...
[04:21] <martalli> Maybe that user needs to be added to a group...
[04:21] <KrisW> the user is in a group
[04:21] <azureal> krisw: you're impatient and you're not phrasing your questions clearly
[04:21] <KrisW> the user has /bin/bash access
[04:21] <martalli> well, a group like sudo, etc. (I wouldn't be sure which one right off the top of my head)
[04:21] <yey> I have a problem with synaptic I cannot do anything (no packages), it just displays:
[04:21] <yey> E: The package vim70 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[04:21] <yey> E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report.
[04:21] <EriK_> martalli:  sorry I have been out of the convo for a few minutes, but have you tried running /usr/bin/gnome-display-properties wrt changing screen rez?
[04:21] <yey> vim70 was uninstalled and deleted...
[04:21] <KrisW> most of the users on my ubuntu server have a username and group that is the same
[04:21] <quiche> rpedro, the method on that site worked for me, thanks for your help anyway :)
[04:22] <rpedro> quiche: ok, np ;)
[04:22] <traviss> so, wheneverr i try to install the flash plugin in firefox, it tells me it failed..
[04:22] <KrisW> this one is the same in that respect as all the others
[04:22] <martalli> Erik_ I'll give it a try - should I run that sudo (I'm relatively new to ubuntu and gnome - I'm a mepis / mandriva refugee lol)
[04:22] <BlueEagle> krisw: does the user have a password?
[04:22] <bimberi> KrisW: is there something in the user's shell login stuff that just immediately kicks them out?  ~username/.bash_profile  for example
[04:22] <quiche> rpedro, perhaps though, you can help me with another question, which was my ultimate problem anyway and the reason I was trying to upgrade my fglrx drivers
[04:22] <dougsko> hi everyone
[04:23] <KrisW> bimberi, that's a good question, the user's home directory is not in /home/username
[04:23] <shawnz> does anyone know which branches / is a union of on the livecd?
[04:23] <martalli> Erik_ That's not working for me...only offers 800x600, 60Hz
[04:23] <KrisW> so there is no .bash_profile
[04:23] <bimberi> KrisW: does the directory exist?
[04:23] <EriK_> martalli:  try it sudo/gksudo if it fails as a plebe, on my boxes it runs fine as me
[04:23] <KrisW> the user's home directory is /var/www/username
[04:23] <quiche> Resizing is horribly slow when using XGL/compiz, other operations are snappy, but resizing is slow, also maximizing is delayed.   an internet search shows that it's a fairly common problem, I was unable to find a solution though
[04:24] <Pirate-King> hello
[04:24] <BlueEagle> ouch
[04:24] <bimberi> KrisW: does 'sudo su username' work?
[04:24] <JJ|Laptop> does anyone know what kernel ubunto v5.04 uses?
[04:24] <martalli> Erik_ same results when I sudo the command
[04:24] <KrisW> bimberi, that's what I'm trying to do
[04:24] <KrisW> bimberi, that's why I've got a problem hehe
[04:24] <bimberi> KrisW: no, without the "-"
[04:24] <KrisW> oh ok
[04:24] <KrisW> I'll try
[04:24] <EriK_> martalli:  have a look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see what resolutions are listed under screen->display
[04:24] <azureal> rofl @ bimberi
[04:25] <Nimwei> what was teh name for the ICE gui?
[04:25] <KrisW> no, it still returns me to the prompt
[04:25] <Nimwei> and if i install it hand-in-hand with Gnome, is it going to cause problems?
[04:25] <EriK_> martalli: it is easy to change that file, but you will have to be root, make you BACK IT UP first, and you will need to restart X for it to take effect (control-alt-backspace for the impatient)
[04:25] <bimberi> KrisW: hm, probably not an issue with login scripts then (the "-" is the signal to run them)
[04:26] <EriK_> s/make you/make sure you/
[04:26] <martalli> Erik_ I posted the xorg.conf to pastebin  (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20164), and it appears to show several resoltuions besides 800x600...
[04:26] <BlueEagle> krisw: did you try sudo -u <username> /bin/bash ?
[04:26] <BlueEagle> "sudo [-HPSb]  [-a auth_type]  [-c class|-]  [-p prompt]  [-u username|#uid]  {-e file [...]  | -i | -s | command}" (from man sudo)
[04:26] <KrisW> BlueEagle, that worked! :D
[04:26] <KrisW> thanks! :D
[04:26] <EriK_> martalli:  in case somebody else didn't ask, does control-alt+plus, control-alt-minus do anything at all?
[04:27] <KrisW> now, do I need to do that every time I want to log into this user?
[04:27] <BlueEagle> krisw: There you go. Reading the friendly manual (RTFM) can actually help.
[04:27] <bimberi> BlueEagle: nice one :)
[04:27] <shawnz> KrisW: whats your issue? o.o
[04:27] <shawnz> BlueEagle: rtfm? thats what they call a hack
[04:27] <bimberi> interesting that su doesn't tho
[04:27] <shawnz> not a fix.
[04:27] <martalli> EriK_  Didn't work...I've never heard of doing that before - is that a gnome trick?
[04:27] <Nimwei> hmm..i keep getting an error: "The X server is now disabled. Please restart GDM when it is configured correctlyl."
[04:27] <KrisW> shawnz, I don't know what the issue is,  that's why I didn't rtfm
[04:27] <shawnz> KrisW: i meant, whats not working
[04:27] <sdferfx> I'm installing an Ubuntu system onto another partition with debootstrap. That's all fine and good, and I'm chrooted into it. I'm following this guide which tells me to run base-config to set up a user, but apparently base-config is obsolete now! How do I setup a user and all that? http://ftp.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/dists/warty/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/apcs03.html
[04:28] <BlueEagle> krisw: well did you set a password for the user?
[04:28] <KrisW> shawnz, can't su into a specific username
[04:28] <KrisW> BlueEagle, yes.
[04:28] <shawnz> KrisW: yes but what error
[04:28] <rpedro> quiche: maybe someone in #ubuntu-xgl knows , I don't have XGL installed at the moment but when I it didn't have those issues, though I think I remember some similar problems when I tried AIGLX
[04:28] <KrisW> shawnz, no error, just returns me to the prompt
[04:28] <shawnz> KrisW: is a shell set up for the user?
[04:28] <BlueEagle> krisw: then what's wrong with: su - username
[04:28] <BlueEagle> krisw: ie without sudo
[04:29] <shawnz> KrisW: if you don't have a bash_profile i'm starting to think your user has some crazy shell set for it
[04:29] <BlueEagle> krisw: remember to specify the user password with su and your password with sudo. :)
[04:29] <nry> hi ppl
[04:29] <KrisW> shawnz, I set the user to use /bin/bash in the gui Users and Groups dialog in gnome if that's what you mean
[04:30] <shawnz> krisw: do a cat /etc/passwd as root, and see if /bin/bash shows up beside the user
[04:30] <Nimwei> Gah, i hate install problems. :P
[04:30] <KrisW> BlueEagle, with or without sudo it's the same result
[04:30] <EriK_> martalli:  control-alt-plus/minus to shift resolution is part of X itself, although it can be disabled.  It's from the same people that give you control-alt-backspace when you are parranoid
[04:30] <BlueEagle> krisw: also logging in as that user to start with will keep you from having to mess with su alltogether.
[04:30] <EriK_> martalli:  is the display in question an lcd panel that you wish to run at only it's native resolution?
[04:30] <martalli> ctl-alt-backspace?
[04:30] <KrisW> The user was automaticly created by the install script of a web app I'm trying to get running
[04:30] <martalli> no, its a good ole crt (Dell 1025htx)
[04:31] <EriK_> nukes your x server, don't try it on accident
[04:31] <shawnz> BlueEagle: logging in as them is a lot different than needing to su to them.
[04:31] <KrisW> so I have no clue what the install script gave it heh
[04:31] <quiche> rpedro, I found the logout without confirmation keyboard shortcut
[04:31] <quiche> rpedro, lucky me
[04:31] <KrisW> the user had no /bin/bash before I started manually messing with things
[04:31] <shawnz> KrisW: what does a "cat /etc/passwd | grep username" give you?
[04:31] <EriK_> martalli:  still, you might just try making a backup of that file and then removing everything except "1280x1024" (if that is what you want)
[04:31] <martalli> lol - there's no ctrl-e (restart xserver) witht he gdm login, I tried ctrl-alt1 and killall gdm to restart ot
[04:31] <quiche> rpedro, but yeah  I was just about to mention that there should be a XGL channel since so many problems arise from it
[04:31] <martalli> EriK_ I think I will give that a try
[04:31] <quiche> thanks for tipping me off
[04:31] <walkingmac> alls good with me and I will use ubuntu before M$ ever again
[04:32] <EriK_> martalli:  *then* try that control-alt-backsapce
[04:32] <shawnz> martalli: ctrl+alt+backspace restarts x on ubuntu
[04:32] <EriK_> if it's enabled....you will know
[04:32] <EriK_> fastest boss/spouse key known to manking
[04:32] <KrisW> ok int /etc/password it's got /bin/false
[04:32] <EriK_> s/manking/mankind/
[04:32] <KrisW> that's the problem
[04:32] <traviss> where does the libflashplayer.so go ... ie where is the firefox plugins? because flash refuses to install
[04:32] <Nimwei> why the hell does the X server fail from a fresh installation? Any ideas on common problems?
[04:32] <shawnz> KrisW: yes that'd be it
[04:32] <eVo-lastjuror> hi
[04:32] <shawnz> change it to /bin/bash
[04:32] <shawnz> and you're good
[04:32] <KrisW> so why didn't the gui change that?
[04:32] <eVo-lastjuror> i am trying to install dapper
[04:32] <shawnz> KrisW: ...we're talking about the same OS, right?
[04:33] <Nimwei> Failed to start the X server. It is likely that it is not setup correctly. Would you like to view the X serveroutput?
[04:33] <BlueEagle> traviss: did you do !flash ?
[04:33] <eVo-lastjuror> got the error"buffer i/o error on device hdd"
[04:33] <traviss> !flash
[04:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:33] <traviss> i have now.
[04:33] <EriK_> Nimwei:  this is a virgin install?  does it work from the livecd?  what chipset?
[04:33] <shawnz> Nimwei: are you using some zany graphics card?
[04:33] <toddobryan> Nimwei: some video cards are tricky.
[04:33] <KrisW> shawnz, this is the ubuntu channel isn't it? ;)
[04:33] <Pirate-King> was thinking of installing ubuntu on mydell laptop is wireless easy with ubuntu?
[04:33] <KrisW> if not I'm in the wrong spot hehe
[04:33] <shawnz> KrisW: well i was implying that linux isn't exactly the least flaky os :p
[04:33] <BlueEagle> traviss: ....and did you read those links that ubotu provided
[04:33] <BlueEagle> `
[04:33] <eVo-lastjuror> My configuration is Athlon 1.67Ghz,Seagate 40 GB,Asus Motherboard
[04:33] <toddobryan> Pirate-King: As a relative newbie, I can say yes.
[04:34] <toddobryan> Pirate-King: Unless it isn't. Some wifi cards can be a pain.
[04:34] <Nimwei> It is an IBM Netfinity 5600 server.  I'm installing from the ALTERNATE CD.  I just finished an "OEM" install.  I previously had it working under a "text" install.
[04:34] <Pirate-King> ok did you have to configure lots?
[04:34] <traviss> yeah thanks
[04:34] <shawnz> Pirate-King: assuming everything is supported, there's a big button for it
[04:34] <quiche> does anyone know of a gnome applet that puts the application menu in the gnome panel?
[04:34] <KrisW> shawnz, yeah, I'm actually not too bad with linux either, it's just sometimes flukes like this throw a monkeywrench in everything
[04:34] <Pirate-King> ok
[04:34] <EriK_> Pirate-King:  unless it has a broadcomm wireless chipset, it is very easy
[04:34] <Pirate-King> where do I find what is supported?
[04:34] <bruenig> travis, /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[04:34] <shawnz> KrisW: no kidding, i put a font in the wrong directory, x didn't start
[04:35] <toddobryan> Pirate-King: I suggest trying to get the LiveCD working before you commit to the install.
[04:35] <shawnz> was trying to fix it for a week
[04:35] <KrisW> haha
[04:35] <BlueEagle> evo-lastjuror: is your cdrom or dvdrom set as the secondary slave?
[04:35] <KrisW> I believe it
[04:35] <shawnz> reconfiguring and reinstalling
[04:35] <toddobryan> Nimwei: Any idea which video chip it has inside?
[04:35] <shawnz> then i finally thought
[04:35] <shawnz> delete that font i put there
[04:35] <Nimwei> toddobryan - I can go find out, one second.
[04:35] <shawnz> and boom it starts working. :p
[04:35] <BlueEagle> evo-lastjuror: have you got more than one cd-/dvd-rom drive?
[04:35] <Pirate-King> ok  good Idea
[04:35] <KrisW> I spent a week trying to get my wacom tablet properly functioning in ubuntu, this username stuff is the worst I've had since then
[04:35] <Nimwei> while i'm here, what was that command to delete the OEM stuff? "oem-post-configure" or something.
[04:35] <eVo-lastjuror> BlueEagle: Yes. DVD ROM and DVDRW
[04:35] <EriK_> Pirate-King:  I agree with todd, although anything except some broadcomm chipsets work out of the box....the broadcomm's can be made to work, it's just a minor pita (that you only go through once)
[04:35] <Pirate-King> Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2915ABG Network Connection is what I got
[04:36] <KrisW> ok I can su into the username without problems now
[04:36] <BlueEagle> evo-lastjuror: is your 40GB segate drive IDE, SCSI or SATA?
[04:36] <KrisW> thanks everyone! :D
[04:36] <eVo-lastjuror> BlueEagle: IDE
[04:36] <shawnz> Nimwei: oem stuff?
[04:36] <redcard> My biggest problem in Ubuntu is deciding what media player to use :P
[04:36] <hyphenated> Pirate-King: my one of that works very nicely
[04:36] <wirelain> Hm, anyone have a link to a good overall hardware burn-in tester? (ubuntu is randomly locking up, but i'm pretty sure it's not ubuntu's fault, same symptims described for windows 98 too)
[04:36] <Pirate-King> ok
[04:36] <redcard> And what to get my podcasts with :P
[04:36] <eVo-lastjuror> BlueEagle: I hope the DVD drive is a secondary slave
[04:36] <Pirate-King> you guys are pretty cool here
[04:36] <Pirate-King> lots of help
[04:36] <EriK_> wirelain: try the memtester86 on the cd first, if you haven't already
[04:36] <shawnz> wirelain: when starting, before "unpacking linux..." hit ESC madly to get into the grub menu comes up
[04:37] <shawnz> -comes up
[04:37] <shawnz> then you can select "memory test"
[04:37] <shawnz> or whatever they're calling it now
[04:37] <Pirate-King> is it alot like debian  lines?
[04:37] <bruenig> shawnz, lol hit escape madly, that timeout is sure fun to try to beat
[04:37] <BlueEagle> evo-lastjuror: Ok. Add this to your kernel parameters in menu.lst: hdd=noprobe
[04:37] <shawnz> bruenig: its the easiest way to explain it
[04:37] <shawnz> Pirate-King: ubuntu _is_ debian with fancy pictures
[04:37] <BlueEagle> evo-lastjuror: if that makes the drive unavailible also add: hdd=cdrom
[04:37] <Pirate-King> ok
[04:38] <EriK_> Pirate-King:  I assume this is a 54g (or g/a) setup that Dell sold as a "Dell TrueMobile xxxxxxxx" ?
[04:38] <shawnz> in fact, there's an /etc/debian-version file
[04:38] <wirelain> EriK_: i'm pretty sure it's not the ram, that was not part of the original system that was known to be issues, and i ran a cursory memtest alredy from my first failing install cd.
[04:38] <wirelain> what exactly is gruib?
[04:38] <eVo-lastjuror> BlueEagle: how to add it?
[04:38] <Pirate-King> yeah
[04:38] <bruenig> grub, is a boot loader
[04:38] <wirelain> er grub
[04:38] <Pirate-King> there is a grub boot loader too
[04:39] <shawnz> wirelain: GRUB is the program that starts before linux does -- it loads an OS and boots to it
[04:39] <bruenig> !grub
[04:39] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:39] <BlueEagle> evo-lastjuror: sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:39] <Pirate-King> good used that a bit witth suse
[04:39] <shawnz> BlueEagle: sudoedit works too
[04:39] <Nimwei> toddobryan - Still looking for the chipset. I know its intel.
[04:39] <hav0k> does anyone know anything about problems with messed up videos?
[04:40] <George> how do I remove the whole of the [k/b/x] ubuntu-desktop package? ie - delete the whole of kde/gnome/xfce?
[04:40] <shawnz> messed up in what way hav0k
[04:40] <BlueEagle> toddobryan: You getting installed yet?
[04:40] <wirelain> Ok, i will run that ... but i've been out of the desktop support world so long that i no longer have a overall burning tester ...
[04:40] <shawnz> George: its rather hard once installed
[04:40] <cory> i'm having alot of trouble with X with my 3 monitor setup. i want 3 seperate screens. eg. no xinerama. is this possible? twinview and the rest seem to limit me to 2. any time i activate my 3rd screen, it seems to turn xinerama on
[04:40] <Pirate-King> which download do I want? desktop?
[04:40] <shawnz> George: as far as i know, you can't chain-remove a package and everything it depended on and so on
[04:40] <hyphenated> Pirate-King: usually, yes.
[04:40] <EriK_> wirelain: even if the ram is not defective, that will often keep a system busy enough as to trigger other problems....and everybody has it.....I just always suggest it as a place to start
[04:40] <Pirate-King> ok
[04:40] <wirelain> Pirate-King: if you don't know what you want, you probably want desktop.
[04:41] <Pirate-King> ok
[04:41] <hyphenated> Pirate-King: it's a live cd with an installer built in
[04:41] <eVo-lastjuror> BlueEagle : do i have to type this in the installation screen?
[04:41] <George> shawnz: hrmm.
[04:41] <wirelain> understood, it's running now while i hunt ...
[04:41] <eVo-lastjuror> BlueEagle :or edit some files?
[04:41] <Nimwei> toddobryan - My video chipset is an S3 TRIO 3D
[04:41] <Pirate-King> yeah but after if live cd works
[04:41] <cellach> hello, alll..... quick question for you
[04:41] <hav0k> i downloaded a music video off democracyplayer and its an mp4 and when i try to play it, i get a green bar at the top and the video is all messed up
[04:41] <garrett_> Hey #ubuntu, problems with widescreen E1505 and ATI drivers...can't get it to work with higher and widescreen resolutions. Help?
[04:41] <shawnz> George: you could surf the dpkg docs, but there's no way afaik,
[04:41] <EriK_> if memtest can make it lock, even if it's not the ram, you can start pulling/swapping other stuff
[04:41] <BlueEagle> evo-lastjuror: Oh, I'm sorry. I assumed that you had ubuntu already installed.
[04:41] <wirelain> Pirate-King: I recommend torrent download unless you are familiar with checking md5 hashes.
[04:41] <hav0k> i think it also messes up when i try to play and xvid video
[04:41] <cellach> what is the default username/password for root?
[04:41] <eVo-lastjuror> BlueEagle: nopes. Just began the installation
[04:41] <bruenig> cellach, there is no root by default
[04:41] <Pirate-King> nope
[04:41] <Nimwei> cellach, the username is root. when you boot the box up do "sudo passwd root"
[04:42] <eVo-lastjuror> BlueEagle: I am at an early stage
[04:42] <shawnz> hav0k: well, just a guess, but last time that happened to me i was playing a DRM-encrypted wmv, so...
[04:42] <bruenig> cellach, what are you doing that needs root?
[04:42] <Pirate-King> not familliar with md hashes
[04:42] <cellach> bruenig... installing a printer driver
[04:42] <BlueEagle> evo-lastjuror: if you're attempting to run off the live cd you want to add that to kernel parameters. Check the bottom of the screen when you boot. It should read F4 additional kernel parameters or something in that nature.
[04:42] <hav0k> ...well, what do i do about it?
[04:42] <BlueEagle> evo-lastjuror: it might be hidden under advanced.
[04:42] <hav0k> i mean, ive downloaded other videos that work fine
[04:42] <shawnz> i'm saying, the video might be encrypted, hav0k
[04:42] <yey> hi
[04:42] <hav0k> is it not something that i could prngobably fix with a new codec or somethi
[04:42] <George> shawnz: never mind, I searched for "kde" in the adept package manager and told it to remove everything that was installed :)
[04:43] <xerophyte_> OSSEC-HIDS what do you guys think about it .. does anybody use it ???
[04:43] <bruenig> cellach, if you are familiar with the command line, you can just precede commands on it with sudo and then type your username's password and it work as root
[04:43] <Nimwei> shawnz - My video adapter is an S3 Trio 3D.  What should I check the X11.conf for as far as video settings.
[04:43] <BlueEagle> hav0k: sounds like that one file in particular is corrupt then.
[04:43] <wirelain> !torrent
[04:43] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt) Bittorent faq: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[04:43] <cellach> ah.. thanks
[04:43] <EriK_> garrett_:  look at your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and try gnome-display-properties
[04:43] <yey> Could you tell me how can I hibernate from console? In suse it was powersave -U and in ubuntu? how can I do that?
[04:43] <EriK_> for starters
[04:43] <yey> ?
[04:43] <wirelain> download a torrent file, install client, double click file .,..
[04:43] <shawnz> Nimwei: Driver                            "S3"
[04:43] <eVo-lastjuror> BlueEagle: is that like an option?
[04:43] <shawnz> or somethin
[04:43] <shawnz> g
[04:43] <Pirate-King> does anybody have the link to live cd?
[04:44] <eVo-lastjuror> BlueEagle: just enable it?
[04:44] <hav0k> so there's no fix... just cant watch them in linux
[04:44] <BlueEagle> evo-lastjuror: Yes. when you boot (the first screen you get I believe) you've got that option. Should be listed along the bottom.
[04:44] <Nimwei> shawnz - Device "S3 Inc. Trio 64 3D"
[04:44] <yey> BlueEagle: how can I hibernate from console? (command)
[04:44] <BlueEagle> evo-lastjuror: you don't enable it. You press a key and get a input line where you can add kernel parameters.
[04:44] <eVo-lastjuror> BlueEagle: Ok. lemme try and come back to u
[04:44] <Nimwei> shawnz - looks like it found it.
[04:44] <bruenig> Pirate-King, ubuntu.com followed by download
[04:44] <shawnz> Nimwei: where
[04:45] <eVo-lastjuror> BlueEagle: Trying to install in the same PC
[04:45] <Pirate-King> ok
[04:45] <garrett_> EriK_, gnome-display-properties only shows a max 1024x768 resolution, which is 4:3 and lower than what my monitor is capable of. I've attempted to install fglrx an ati drivers to no avail. gnome-display-properties won't show any higher resolution.
[04:45] <BlueEagle> yey: Just put your forehead on your keyboard and sleep?
[04:45] <eVo-lastjuror> BlueEagle: Thank god i didnt format c: drive
[04:45] <Nimwei> in my x11.conf file.
[04:45] <BlueEagle> evo-lastjuror: :)
[04:45] <shawnz> Nimwei: that line isn't what i meant
[04:45] <yey> BlueEagle: :P I have used to do (in SUSE) : sleep 30m && powersave -U
[04:45] <BlueEagle> yey: I am sorry if I gave you the impression that I knew the answer to that question by completely ignoring it. ;D
[04:46] <shawnz> Nimwei: you're looking at Identifier
[04:46] <shawnz> i mean the one before it
[04:46] <Nimwei> Ah. One second.
[04:46] <shawnz> or after, rather
[04:46] <redcard> I love how people blame linux for people who choose not to use open formats.
[04:46] <quiche> does anyone know of a gnome applet that displays the menu of the foreground application?
[04:46] <Nimwei> in the Xorg.0.log file at the bottom it says "Fatal error: no screens found" - let me go find the driver file you're looking at.
[04:46] <BlueEagle> yey: that was refering to the first time you asked it w/o directing it spesifically to me. :)
[04:46] <EriK_> yey: you need to install package powersaved and it will work exactly as before
[04:46] <EriK_> (or should)
[04:47] <EriK_> yey: "sudo apt-get install powersaved"
[04:47] <shawnz> EriK_: is that in the default repos?
[04:47] <bruenig> !info powersaved
[04:47] <ubotu> powersaved: power management daemon. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.12.15-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 376 kB, installed size 1852 kB
[04:47] <bruenig> universe
[04:47] <EriK_> universe
[04:47] <Nimwei> shawnz - driver is neomagic.
[04:47] <toddobryan> Nimwei: Sorry. I was distracted.
[04:48] <Nimwei> toddobryan - no prob.
[04:48] <shawnz> Nimwei: try changing that to "s3"
[04:48] <shawnz> and saving
[04:48] <yey> EriK_: but hibernation works already, do I really need additional packages?
[04:48] <garrett_> EriK_, any ideas?
[04:48] <EriK_> garrett_:  does the xorg.conf show the resolutions you desire?
[04:48] <shawnz> yey: that package contains the powersave tool...
[04:48] <Nimwei> xorg.conf is set to readonly..how do I fix that
[04:48] <Nimwei> chmod it to 777?
[04:48] <garrett_> EriK_, yes, it does.
[04:48] <shawnz> Nimwei: no
[04:48] <shawnz> just edit it as root
[04:49] <PresGas> Hey, can anyone remember an application that will let one instant message via an IRC program?  I stumbled across it a number of months ago and cannot remember it
[04:49] <EriK_> yey: perhaps there is another way to do it, but if you want to do it just like you did under suse....there ya go
[04:49] <shawnz> PresGas: xchat?
[04:49] <TehUni> i'm having alot of trouble with X with my 3 monitor setup. i want 3 seperate screens. eg. no xinerama. is this possible? twinview and the rest seem to limit me to 2. any time i activate my 3rd screen, it seems to turn xinerama on
[04:49] <bruenig> Nimwei, do sudo gedit xorg.conf
[04:49] <Nimwei> got it.
[04:49] <BlueEagle> presgas: IRC is instant messaging isn't it?
[04:49] <Nimwei> I've also got a "/dev/wacom" that can't be found.
[04:49] <garrett_> EriK_, I say that and just went and looked...but it doesn't at the moment. It did at one time. Heh.
[04:49] <BlueEagle> presgas: are you thinking about trillian (an im client that also can do irc)?
[04:49] <garrett_> I'll try updating the resolutions. Restart X and see where that gets me. I'll be back, I'm sure.
[04:49] <PresGas> BlueEagle, Indeed...and some would say it is better
[04:50] <shawnz> PresGas: xchat?
[04:50] <EriK_> garrett_:  put on your superman costume, backup the file, muck with it, restart x, and play
[04:50] <BlueEagle> presgas: well there you go. :)
[04:50] <shawnz> oh trillian
[04:50] <shawnz> :<
[04:50] <shawnr_> Help! My keyboard shortcuts are not working!
[04:50] <shawnz> you stole my name
[04:50] <shawnz> :(
[04:50] <shawnr_> lol
[04:50] <garrett_> EriK_, That's a big 10-4. Dawning costume now.
[04:50] <garrett_> Phonebooth, anyone?
[04:50] <EriK_> press harder, then press any key to continue or any other key to quit.
[04:50] <shawnz> shawnr_: there's a menu item
[04:50] <shawnr_> ?
[04:51] <shawnz> system > prefs > keyboard shortcuts
[04:51] <bruenig> System>preferences>keyboard shortcuts
[04:51] <EriK_> kidding, shawn
[04:51] <shawnr_> lol no crap
[04:51] <BlueEagle> shawnr_: Which keyboard shortcuts are you refering to?
[04:51] <Nimwei> shawnz - doing a /etc/init.d/gdm restart it fails to load.
[04:51] <shawnr_> thats what im talking about
[04:51] <bruenig> !info xbindkeys
[04:51] <ubotu> xbindkeys: Associate a combination of keys or mouse buttons with a shell command. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.7.1-1 (dapper), package size 26 kB, installed size 152 kB
[04:51] <shawnz> Nimwei: you can just type "gdm" you know :p
[04:51] <Pirate-King> there is no live cd for ubuntu 6.06?
[04:51] <bruenig> might favorite keyboard shortcut program
[04:51] <Nimwei> lol
[04:51] <Nimwei> that helps :)
[04:51] <shawnz> anyway, try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[04:51] <shawnr_> lol i doubt i need to do that
[04:52] <shawnz> and fill that out with proper defaults
[04:52] <shawnr_> i have proper defaults
[04:52] <shawnr_> some of them work
[04:52] <shawnr_> but not all of them
[04:52] <shawnz> i didn't say you
[04:52] <shawnz> i meant Nimwei.
[04:52] <Nimwei> GDM Already running..>Aborting!
[04:52] <shawnz> Nimwei: you have to do sudo killall gdm first :p
[04:52] <Nimwei> lol
[04:52] <A2A> anyone try the new KateOS that was released today? How does it compare toXubuntu, since it also uses Xfce?
[04:52] <garrett_> EriK_, no dice.
[04:52] <BlueEagle> ...or sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[04:52] <Nimwei> i'm a linux newb if you can't tell. i know basics..that's about it.
[04:52] <Nimwei> I did the restart.
[04:53] <BlueEagle> ..and you still got "is sitll running"?
[04:53] <garrett_> EriK_, added 1280x768 into the xorg.conf file and...gnome-display-properties still shows the max of 1024.768.
[04:53] <BlueEagle> s/is still/already/
[04:53] <shawnz> BlueEagle: they meant they did the restart now
[04:53] <bruenig> A2A, if you want a good xfce distro, dreamlinux is awesome, and it's debian based
[04:53] <Nimwei> shawnz - ok, still the same error.  Failed to start, blah blah blah.
[04:53] <yey> EriK_: :(
[04:53] <shawnz> Nimwei: choose to see logs
[04:53] <yey> EriK_: I cannot install powersaved :(
[04:53] <shawnz> look for lines starting with (EE)
[04:53] <Coruscant> haxxorz ?
[04:53] <BlueEagle> shawnz: Well I'm going to bed now. The channel is all yours. :p
[04:53] <shawnz> yey: why
[04:54] <yey> EriK_: E: The package vim70 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[04:54] <yey> shawnz: :(
[04:54] <BlueEagle> yey: rofl.
[04:54] <A2A> ~[ bruenig ] ~ thanks, im using Xubuntu and Ubuntu server, so just was wondering whats comes close :-)
[04:54] <yey> BlueEagle: that's not funny :(
[04:54] <Nimwei> shawnz - Ok, failed to load module s3, module does not exist.
[04:54] <Pirate-King> what a good torrent program?
[04:55] <yey> BlueEagle: could you help me with that?
[04:55] <Nimwei> shawnz - Also, failed to load module wacom module does not exist.
[04:55] <BlueEagle> yey: Well it's 4:52 am here and to me it's quite funny to me.
[04:55] <shawnz> Nimwei: AHA
[04:55] <Nimwei> heh - so where do I download 'em?
[04:55] <shawnz> you don't.
[04:55] <BlueEagle> yey: Sorry I am going to bed. I'm so tired that I find apt attempting to reinstall vim7.0 funny. :/
[04:55] <yey> BlueEagle: vim already works
[04:55] <Coruscant> how do i use alein rpm - deb converter
[04:55] <Nimwei> ok, so what do i do? =P
[04:56] <shawnz> nimewi: go back in and change the thing you changed back to "neomagic"
[04:56] <yey> BlueEagle: wait a moment ;P
[04:56] <BlueEagle> yey: I'll look up the apt manual and see if there's a way to get it to ignore a package that it thinks is broken.
[04:56] <shawnz> Nimwei: and before you save, you'll have three secionds
[04:56] <shawnz> Nimwei: three sections called "Section "InputDevice"" that start with "Driver "wacom""
[04:56] <shawnz> delete those three
[04:56] <Nimwei> ok
[04:57] <garrett_> Anyone: ATI driver install help?
[04:57] <garrett_> Or fglrx.
[04:57] <Trae> how can I find out the 0,x,0 of my dvd drive?  it's hdb
[04:57] <Coruscant> how do i use alein rpm - deb converter
[04:57] <Trae> but that doesn't tell me the exact devicce number
[04:57] <shawnz> Coruscant: type "alien package.rpm/package.tar/etc" and go away for a few minutes.
[04:58] <corey> how do I add resolutions to dapper?
[04:58] <wendyalison> Hello, I would like to know how to have sound playing for flash animations in mozilla
[04:58] <shawnz> it makes a .deb for you in the same folder
[04:58] <Trae> I need the cdrecord device
[04:58] <BlueEagle> yey: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-erros.en.html might help
[04:58] <BlueEagle> yey: no guarantees tho
[04:58] <yey> BlueEagle: I compiled vim myself, it didn't work from debs. When I try to do: dpkg --remove vim70, I get: http://www.wklej.org/id/565117448f
[04:58] <Nimwei> is there a way to delete a line at a time in VI? heh
[04:58] <corey> i added one to my xorg.conf but it doesn't show up in the screen resolution dialog
[04:58] <anthony> nux
[04:58] <shawnz> Nimwei: use nano
[04:58] <shawnz> its easier
[04:58] <anthony> join #linux
[04:58] <abhinay> where the apt cache is stored ?
[04:58] <Nimwei> abhinay - /var/cache/apt I believe
[04:58] <garrett_> corey, I'm having the same problem. =X
[04:59] <wendyalison> I've installed the flash plugin for mozilla, the animation works but there's no sound
[04:59] <BlueEagle> nn all
[04:59] <Coruscant> shawnz um so alien package.rpm/package.tar/etc? do i put in both?
[04:59] <redcard> Nimwei: I think 'dd' in command mode will delete a line
[04:59] <yey> BlueEagle:
[04:59] <Coruscant> or just one?
[04:59] <corey> garrett_, At least its not just me. I feel your pain
[04:59] <shawnz> Coruscant: .....um
[04:59] <abhinay> Nimwei: ty
[04:59] <yey> I did dpkg --purge vim70, maybe that caused that problem?
[04:59] <garrett_> corey, What kind of system/hardware do you have? Drivers?
[04:59] <shawnz> i implied you're supposed to replace that with the name of the package, Coruscant.
[04:59] <BlueEagle> yey: I really really do not know.
[04:59] <corey> garrett_, its DVI to my tv
[04:59] <yey> ;(((((((((((((((!
[04:59] <corey> it supports 960x720 but I'm only getting 800x600 :(
[05:00] <Coruscant> like alien package.rpm/ for a rpm and  alien package.tar/ for tars?
[05:00] <BlueEagle> yey: if I do know then I'm to tired to remember.
[05:00] <thaixstyle> ok....i'm an ubuntu noob
[05:00] <shawnz> Coruscant: no silly
[05:00] <Coruscant> idk
[05:00] <shawnz> just "alien the_package_file_name"
[05:00] <thaixstyle> and this is really kickin my ass
[05:00] <garrett_> corey, ATI Mobility X1300 on my Dell E1505 laptop.
[05:00] <Coruscant> oh thanks shawnz ill try it and let you know
[05:00] <thaixstyle> Ubuntu is just not stable  for some reason
[05:01] <phonic_> where can i chat about love?
[05:01] <Nimwei> now i have to go and delete all traces of the wacom devices it tried to install..a tablet pc, a stylus, and a cursor.
[05:01] <Nimwei> ugh
[05:01] <thaixstyle> it identifies all my hardware just fine
[05:01] <redcard> thaixstyle: Define "not stable"
[05:01] <phonic_> server names?
[05:01] <garrett_> phonic_, how about #love?
[05:01] <wendyalison> Is there ANY help i can get for getting flash to work with firefox???  The only problem I have is that there's no sound!
[05:01] <shawnz> Nimwei: it ads it for me after a dpkg-reconfigure some times too
[05:01] <thaixstyle> redcard: my mouse will become none functioning
[05:01] <thaixstyle> i can move it
[05:01] <thaixstyle> but it won't click on anything
[05:02] <phonic_> garret-never heard of it but thanx
[05:02] <thebishop> is there a repo with more recent versions of Wine?
[05:02] <thaixstyle> i can't even ctrl-alt-backspace
[05:02] <shawnz> thebishop: wine-hq has a repo
[05:02] <shawnz> check the downloads
[05:02] <thebishop> shawnz, with ubuntu debs?
[05:02] <thaixstyle> any ideas?
[05:02] <shawnz> debian debs
[05:02] <shawnz> all the same thing
[05:02] <redcard> thaixstyle: Any specific apps it does this to?
[05:02] <thebishop> will they break my system?
[05:02] <thaixstyle> just about anything...
[05:02] <shawnz> uhh
[05:02] <shawnz> break your system?
[05:02] <thaixstyle> firefox...
[05:02] <shawnz> lol
[05:02] <shawnz> no
[05:02] <thebishop> awesome
[05:02] <thaixstyle> anything...
[05:03] <shawnz> why would they?
[05:03] <shawnz> :p
[05:03] <thaixstyle> if i play with it too much
[05:03] <thebishop> i've heard that debian repos sometimes do
[05:03] <thaixstyle> it freezes
[05:03] <shawnz> debian repos do
[05:03] <shawnz> but this one only has like 2 packages
[05:03] <thaixstyle> (say i do a lot of unessary clicking)
[05:03] <thaixstyle> i can force it to hang
[05:03] <thaixstyle> funny
[05:03] <garrett_> Anyone: Problems adding resolution to my xorg with an ATI card. HELP?
[05:03] <Nimwei> shawnz - Now I get an (EE) No devices detected.
[05:03] <shawnz> thebishop:  they say that because if you add an actual default Debian repos, it will upgrade to Debian packages
[05:03] <thaixstyle> i can recreate the problem
[05:03] <Madpilot> !enterr
[05:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about enterr - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:03] <Madpilot> !enter
[05:03] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[05:03] <shawnz> :(
[05:04] <Nimwei> christ almighty..lol
[05:04] <redcard> thaixstyle: Hmm.. what kind of mouse?
[05:04] <thaixstyle> redcard: do you think it could be a hardware issue
[05:04] <thaixstyle> wireless usb optical mouse
[05:04] <thaixstyle> logitech
[05:04] <Nimwei> shawnz - What is the package(s) I need to update X11..maybe I'll try that even though I already did an update/upgrade.
[05:04] <redcard> thaixstyle: Hmm.
[05:04] <thaixstyle> redcard: think it could be a driver issue?
[05:05] <shawnz> Nimwei: apt-get upgrade does everything
[05:05] <thaixstyle> maybe a hardware issue...
[05:05] <thaixstyle> because it's not just the mouse
[05:05] <redcard> It could be.  I've got no experience using a wireless mouse.  Does a wired mouse do that?
[05:05] <thaixstyle> ubuntu freezes
[05:05] <thaixstyle> processes just stop
[05:05] <Nimwei> well this is f'in pissing me off shawnz lol - any other ideas?
[05:05] <shawnz> Nimwei: uhh, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg again?
[05:05] <shawnz> :p
[05:05] <yey> BlueEagle: YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! ;P
[05:05] <thaixstyle> i'm thinking that my HDD is going bad
[05:05] <yey> BlueEagle: dpkg -r --force-remove-reinstreq vim70
[05:05] <yey> ;P
[05:06] <ardchoille> !xconfig
[05:06] <yey> yeyeyeye ;P
[05:06] <ubotu> xconfig is To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[05:06] <thaixstyle> but it's funny because when I boot into my Windows partition...i don't have any problems..
[05:06] <redcard> Well, if you have a persistant hardware issue, it can manifest in any number of ways
[05:06] <shawnz> anyway, does anyone know which branches / is a union of on the livecd?
[05:06] <thaixstyle> maybe my linux partition is over a bad sector
[05:06] <redcard> thaixstyle: Did it do this when you tested the hardware using the livecd?
[05:06] <thaixstyle> or RAM...maybe i have bad RAM...
[05:06] <thaixstyle> live CD worked cool...wait
[05:07] <thaixstyle> i got it to do the same thing on the Live CD before too...
[05:07] <thaixstyle> a couple times
[05:07] <redcard> I'd try plugging in a different mouse
[05:07] <thaixstyle> redcard: think it might be my other hardware?
[05:07] <thaixstyle> yeah
[05:07] <thaixstyle> i'll try that first..
[05:07] <thaixstyle> but if it persists...
[05:08] <thaixstyle> maybe RAM...i should do extensive RAM tests...
[05:08] <Yashiro_Nanakase> the live cd has a memtest or is it in the alternative cd?
[05:08] <redcard> If it persists, I don't know what to suggest.
[05:08] <Yashiro_Nanakase> try that
[05:08] <thaixstyle> and my HDD
[05:08] <thaixstyle> yeah...
[05:08] <redcard> memtest86 is on the livecd, I think
[05:08] <Yashiro_Nanakase> or download hiren's boot and do a hdd test
[05:08] <thaixstyle> it does have memtest
[05:08] <thaixstyle> i'll try that...
[05:08] <thaixstyle> i have hiren
[05:08] <ardchoille> !enter > thaixstyle
[05:08] <thaixstyle> i can test my HDD
[05:08] <thaixstyle> !enter
[05:08] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[05:08] <thaixstyle> ?
[05:08] <Yashiro_Nanakase> i always run an hdd test when they r a bit slow
[05:08] <shawnr_> Ok, the only keyboard shortcut of mine that isn't working is "Run a terminal" can anyone help me out?
[05:09] <ardchoille> thaixstyle: Please try to make complete sentences.
[05:09] <thaixstyle> i'm sorry, did i speak in broken english?
[05:09] <Madpilot> shawnr_, I've got that mapped to my 'menu key' which works fine - what key combo are you trying?
[05:09] <JJ|Laptop> so hw does configuring partitons during installation work?
[05:09] <Yashiro_Nanakase> lol, my native language is spanish
[05:09] <ardchoille> thaixstyle: Using 6 or 7 lines to say one complete sentence is just annoying
[05:09] <shawnr_> Madpilot, ive tried a bunch
[05:10] <thaixstyle> sorry, it's a bad "IMing" habit
[05:10] <shawnr_> Madpilot, Super_L (win key), F1, Shift-F1
[05:10] <shawnr_> nothing wokrs
[05:10] <shawnr_> works*
[05:10] <Nimwei> shawnz - Is it possible my Primary device is setup wrong? it's set to PCI 00:01:0 - i'm not even sure that's right.
[05:10] <Madpilot> shawnr_, odd, the win keys aren't assigned to anything by default, that should have worked
[05:10] <visik7> EriK_: seems reconstructor work smoothly, I've the iso now I'll try it on vmware
[05:11] <visik7> btw
[05:11] <visik7> I think ubuntu should release something like dapper r1
[05:11] <shawnr_> Madpilot, the same keys can be used for other shortcuts like web browser and email
[05:11] <visik7> with updates
[05:11] <shawnr_> Madpilot, just not terminal
[05:11] <visik7> 'couse is not possible to install 150 packages after installation
[05:11] <Coruscant> shawnz where does alien put the DEB?
[05:12] <Madpilot> shawnr_, I know, but by default in Ubuntu Gnome neither Windows key does anythign
[05:12] <ardchoille> visik7: On a new install, run the updates and go have lunch.. that's what I do.
[05:12] <shawnr_> Madpilot, i have my specific keyboard model selected so even my FN keys are wokring
[05:12] <ardchoille> :)
[05:12] <martalli> EriK_ I'm back, and I am still stuck in 800x600.  I noticed in my xorg.conf that Section "Device" shows " BusID                "PCI:3:0:0"" - is this correct, since my card is AGP?
[05:13] <Coruscant> or shawnr_  where does alien put the created DEB?
[05:13] <Madpilot> shawnr_, nice - but I'm not sure why Super_L isn't working as assigned.. odd
[05:13] <thaixstyle> BTW folks, has anyone gotten EasyUbuntu to work recently (i'm talking today or yesturday)?  I can't seem to get it going right at all
[05:13] <shawnr_> Madpilot, but neither does F1, F2, F3 and so on
[05:13] <knowwho> Unable to find growisofs executable
[05:13] <knowwho> K3b uses growisofs to actually write dvds. Without growisofs you won't be able to write dvds. Make sure to install at least version 5.10.
[05:13] <knowwho> any idea?
[05:13] <shawnr_> nothing is working for terminal shortcut
[05:13] <thaixstyle> i use the exact same commands copied from the site but tells me that i can't run it as root
[05:14] <thaixstyle> although the commands specifically say "sudo python easyubuntu.in"
[05:14] <shawnr_> Madpilot, in other words, if I map the web browser shortcut to SUPER_L, it works... but if I map the terminal shortcut... it doesn't
[05:15] <thaixstyle> i already tryied the #easyubuntu channel, but everyone is either away or unconscious
[05:15] <shawnr_> *but if I map the terminal shortcut to super_l... it doesn't
[05:15] <Coruscant> Where does alien by default put the converted deb>
[05:15] <Madpilot> shawnr_, very strange
[05:15] <Coruscant> nm i got it
[05:15] <shawnr_> Madpilot, can I edit shortcuts in gconf?
[05:16] <sally2> has anyone tried to install mednafen?
[05:16] <sally2> if so, did it work?
[05:16] <sally2> and how?
[05:16] <nu> hey guys. earlier, i was vieing SDA1's (windows hard drive)  files, even the administrator ones, when i did gksudo nautilus
[05:16] <nu> but now i cant
[05:16] <nu> anyone know why?
[05:16] <Madpilot> shawnr_, yes,
[05:16] <xrothgarx> does kubuntu have install disks for PPC's?  (macs)
[05:17] <shawnr_> Madpilot, i've been looking for it but can't find it
[05:18] <threadmac> Any idea why my rt2500 worked fine after the initial install, but after some fiddling has stopped working? Someone suggested my kernel upgrade might have caused it... but it still doesn't work having booted off the old kernel. I can see the wireless networks in the area, but I can't join them . . .
[05:18] <Madpilot> shawnr_, start it from terminal w/ gconf-editor, or edit your menus to make it visible - Config Editor is hidden by default in dapper's menus
[05:18] <shawnr_> Madpilot, no i know where that it. i mean the keyboard shortcuts in gconf
[05:19] <babo> how do I add 'user' to the 'mail' group again ?
[05:19] <Madpilot> shawnr_, no idea, I tend to avoid gconf... sorry
[05:20] <bimberi> babo: sudo adduser username mail
[05:20] <ardchoille> shawnr_: try apps/metacity in gconf
[05:20] <babo> bimberi: aha ...
[05:20] <babo> thaks
[05:20] <babo> n
[05:21] <shawnr_> ardchoille, wouldn't work for me
[05:21] <bimberi> babo: np :)
[05:21] <ardchoille> shawnr_: Sorry, meant gconf-editor
[05:21] <shawnr_> ardchoille, yea.. but that wouldn't work for me
[05:22] <ardchoille> shawnr_: Ahh, ok
[05:22] <JJ|Laptop> does anyone know what kernel ubunto v5.04 uses?
[05:22] <visik7> ardchoille: too many updates many friends of mine want to use ubuntu but here many are on 56k or dsl not flat
[05:22] <shawnr_> ardchoille, im running compiz/xgl... so im not using metacity
[05:22] <visik7> ardchoille: so they can't update
[05:22] <Coruscant> ok where does the executible go when you install the DEB?
[05:22] <ardchoille> shawnr_: Ahh
[05:23] <ardchoille> visik7: dial-up? eeewwwww
[05:23] <ardchoille> lol
[05:23] <visik7> yes dial up
[05:23] <ardchoille> I guess dsl has spoiled me
[05:23] <visik7> many users still live on dial up
[05:23] <visik7> expecially here in italy
[05:23] <visik7> where we have a telco monopoly
[05:23] <QMario> How do I use OpenOffice's Export to PDF in the command line?
[05:23] <yey> how can I hibernate in Ubuntu from command line?
[05:23] <chaizzilla> what's that about 56k or dsl not flat?
[05:23] <corey> garrett_, I got mine working!
[05:24] <garrett_> corey, SCHWAAA?
[05:24] <Samineru> opera is not opening http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20165
[05:24] <corey> garrett_, I used gtf to generate a custom modeline and added it to my xorg.conf
[05:24] <visik7> chaizzilla: 150 updates are too many with this kind of connection
[05:24] <Coruscant> ok where does the executible go when you install the DEB?
[05:24] <chaizzilla> wasn't there a fairly active #thinkwiki channel on this server at some point?
[05:24] <QMario> How do I use OpenOffice's Export to PDF in the command line?
[05:24] <visik7> chaizzilla: ubuntu should release an r1 with all updates
[05:24] <corey> garrett_, you should have gtf alread installed. Man pages helped
[05:24] <chaizzilla> what's the flat mean?
[05:25] <visik7> chaizzilla: that you don't pay per time
[05:25] <chaizzilla> i think i just didn't parse it
[05:25] <chaizzilla> ah okie
[05:25] <chaizzilla> 150 updates over what period?
[05:25] <garrett_> corey, I fiddled with modelines earlier, didn't attempt anything because I couldn't figure out my refresh rates or anything for my lappy. I'll dig more into that though, thanks bunches!
[05:25] <fl4kk3r> visik7: then it wouldn't fit on a cd
[05:25] <visik7> chaizzilla: from 1 june ?
[05:25] <chaizzilla> can they be spread out?  oh, hmm...
[05:25] <dr_willis> garrett_,  a lcd is normally always 60mhz for the rate
[05:25] <visik7> updates aren't new installed packages
[05:25] <Samineru> additionally I was trying to open synaptics and I got this error: ailed to run synaptic as user root:
[05:25] <Samineru>  Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.
[05:25] <chaizzilla> so sort of the opposite problem from lack of updates
[05:26] <visik7> fl4kk3r: so it should fit 'couse they are the same packages
[05:26] <chaizzilla> maybe there should be a voting system
[05:26] <Yashiro_Nanakase> cl repositories r down D:!
[05:26] <corey> garrett_, Yeah just go for 60hrz thats the default that about everything supports
[05:26] <Yashiro_Nanakase> do sum1 has a sources.list u can spare :D?
[05:26] <threadmac> What are the possibilities when I can see my wireless networks with iwlist scan.... but I can't join the network... dhcp just waits forever
[05:26] <garrett_> dr_willis, corey, Thanks. Noted.
[05:26] <visik7> chaizzilla: who complain for lack of updates?
[05:26] <fl4kk3r> visik7: when i updated for the first time it was a 200mb thing, and the live cd is 600mb
[05:26] <Coruscant> HELP!| ok where does the executible go when you install the DEB?
[05:26] <chaizzilla> like, an optimal limit should be figured out, and updates have to compete their way therein
[05:26] <threadmac> Coruscant: probably /usr/bin
[05:26] <visik7> fl4kk3r: I repeat they are updates
[05:26] <visik7> not new packages
[05:27] <chaizzilla> teams could try and figure out how to condense 2 or more updates
[05:27] <tritium> Coruscant: dpkg -L <packagename> will list all the files in that package, so you can verify
[05:27] <visik7> btw I'm slipstreaming updates on a new cd
[05:27] <Coruscant> thanks
[05:27] <tamale> hello everyone, I'm having a very frustrating problem with my ubuntu install on my webserver.  PHP pages always make my browser show a "The connection was reset"  error the first time I try to access them.  When I do a refresh, it works fine.   Everytime.   There is nothing in the apache error log corresponding to the times I'm seeing this.. any ideas?
[05:27] <chaizzilla> i thought ubuntu was the answer to some er org latebct
[05:27] <chaizzilla> er org latency... acherlly i dunno
[05:27] <beerfan> Does anyone know how to make nautilus not move deleted files to .Trash on removable devices like usb?
[05:28] <Yashiro_Nanakase> use shift+ supr to delete permanently a file
[05:29] <dr_willis> beerfan,  thats a bit of a known bugglet - and dang annoyng. :P
[05:29] <cerda> wich is the best program similar to guitar pro ???
[05:29] <chaizzilla> oh man i want that answer too :)
[05:29] <visik7> anyone know how the ubuntu installer (from livecd) works ?
[05:29] <visik7> I need some docs
[05:30] <xrothgarx> can someone please help me downgrade mysql from 5 -> 4, mythtv .18.1 doesnt work with 5
[05:30] <beerfan> dr_willis, so no way? any work around like holding shift or something?
[05:30] <xrothgarx> I am using kubuntu 6.06
[05:30] <dr_willis> beerfan,  thers that method.. but its an annoyance
[05:30] <chaizzilla> is there an alternative to guitar pro?  surely someone's come up with some sort of xslt xfo xxx whatever thingie
[05:30] <ardchoille> xrothgarx: I'm glad you said that, I'll be needing mythtv soon for a new PVR I'm building
[05:31] <beerfan> dr_willis, I hadn't tried that yet. I was hoping there was a config somewhere :-/ thanks
[05:31] <cerda> chaizzilla have u ever tried kguitar or tuxguitar??
[05:31] <jn> hi
[05:31] <xrothgarx> ubuntu 6.06 installs mysql5 by default but you can't run some myth .18 commands (mythfilldatabase) suppsoidly it is fixed in .19
[05:31] <cerda> do they write tabs for all instr? or just guitar?
[05:31] <jn> Error: The GUI requires GTK devel packages (which were not found).
[05:32] <jn> does anyone know what the package name for the gtk devel is
[05:32] <chaizzilla> no i have not, have only recently come to realise how frustruating it is to look for tabs :)
[05:32] <f00f-> i'm compiling my own kernel on 6.06, but find that some hw features dont work anymore (touchpad scrolling, visual alert when pressing volume keys, sleep). i'm wondering what i need to enable to get my thinkpad t43p working again like the original kernel. i'm using beyond2.2 patches...
[05:33] <chaizzilla> thanks for those suggestions :)
[05:34] <mike-e> so, ubuntu doesn't support ISA?
[05:35] <crimsun> mike-e: it does, why?
[05:35] <ardchoille> cerda: Tried this: http://www.gnomefiles.org/search.php?search=guitar  ?
[05:35] <mike-e> crimsun : troll? ok, ignore
[05:35] <rav> jest tu ktos z polski ?
[05:35] <chaizzilla> does anyone remember the little single-tone melody utility in OS/2?  i keep hoping to find someone ported it or at least copied the navigation from it
[05:36] <ardchoille> !pl
[05:36] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[05:36] <chaizzilla> and i want a pony, and a port of foxpro for dos..
[05:37] <chaizzilla> o and a really awesome IM-IRC-etc console-based client
[05:37] <chaizzilla> that works
[05:37] <dr_willis> chaizzilla,  ya mean somnthign that just does a beep at a specific freq/duration?
[05:37] <owen_> is there a program, or plugin for gnomebaker, that edits idv3 and idv2 mp3 tags and song information?
[05:38] <CalcMaster86>  hey, i'm having problems detecting my network card which is a d-link 550tx... there are drivers for linux, but i just cant figure out how to get them to install
[05:38] <ardchoille> owen_: I know that easytag does a great job of that, just a thought
[05:38] <Madpilot> owen_, try EasyTag or Cowbell for tag editing
[05:38] <chaizzilla> no, OS/2 had a little melody composer for writing your own alarm tones, and i've never seen anything with nearly as sensible an interface
[05:38] <owen_> thanks
[05:38] <dr_willis> CalcMaster86,  may just need to load the right modules with modprobe
[05:39] <chaizzilla> calcmaster86?
[05:39] <CalcMaster86>  yeah, i saw that on the forums, i know the card uses the sundance driver, do i just type in sudo sundance ?
[05:39] <CalcMaster86>  err
[05:39] <chaizzilla> i'll look it up thanks
[05:39] <chaizzilla> oh derr
[05:39] <CalcMaster86>  sudo modprobe sundance
[05:39] <jdmpike> hey guys
[05:39] <chaizzilla> thought that was software
[05:39] <jdmpike> does anyone in here use EasyTag?
[05:40] <crimsun> I've used EasyTag in the past, yes
[05:40] <jdmpike> I can't figure out for the life of me how to edit multiple files at once
[05:40] <f00f-> i'm trying to compile my own kernel... can anyone help me?
[05:40] <chaizzilla> why are you doing that?
[05:40] <crimsun> jdmpike: select them in the middle pane
[05:40] <ardchoille> jdmpike: CTRL+click ?
[05:40] <jdmpike> yeah, that selects many of them
[05:41] <jdmpike> but then when I alter information on the right pane, it only alters for the first file I selected
[05:41] <f00f-> chaizzilla: i'm looking for more performance
[05:41] <chaizzilla> and a pony
[05:41] <ardchoille> jdmpike: there  is a tiny button next to each text box, if you hover over that button, you'll see what it does.
[05:41] <chaizzilla> oh
[05:41] <jdmpike> f00f- did you download a kernel for your architecture?
[05:42] <jdmpike> ardchoille, those just select all files with that tag
[05:42] <Andruk> my kubuntu system isnt producing any sound, even with multimedia programs, where (website) can i start to research and resolve this problem?
[05:42] <ardchoille> jdmpike: No, that writes the same tag to ALL selected files.
[05:43] <f00f-> jdmpike: i downloaded 2.6.17 stock, applied beyond2.2 patches, and fiddled around with config. i guess my first issue is getting suspend working. i've enabled both suspend and suspend2, i guess ubuntu by default uses the old suspend (doesnt require apm/acpi) ?
[05:43] <f00f-> i'm using make-kpg to create the debs and the initrd
[05:43] <jdmpike> hmmm, you are over my head
[05:43] <jdmpike> the gentoo documentation is pretty good
[05:44] <jdmpike> I had a gentoo install but came to ubuntu because the people are cooler
[05:44] <f00f-> i moved from gentoo to ubuntu :P
[05:44] <ardchoille> jdmpike: If you identify to nkciserv, I'll help you with it in pm
[05:44] <Andruk> i moved from debian to kubuntu
[05:44] <dr_willis> Heh - ExGentooers
[05:44] <jdmpike> and I can do more with my machine faster
[05:44] <f00f-> i came to ubuntu because gentoo has severe flaws leading to decreased productivity for me :P
[05:44] <jdmpike> ardchoille, I don't remember my password
[05:44] <Andruk> anybody know how to get sound working on kubuntu?
[05:44] <ardchoille> jdmpike: heh.. "oops"
[05:44] <f00f-> Andruk: can you get *any* sound?
[05:45] <welshbyte> f00f-: if you must... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[05:45] <chaizzilla> what was gentoo itself like?
[05:45] <ardchoille> Folks, #gentoo is that way --->
[05:45] <Andruk> f00f: no, none at all
[05:45] <tamale> I'm having a very frustrating problem with my ubuntu install on my webserver.  PHP pages always make my browser show a "The connection was reset"  error the first time I try to access them.  When I do a refresh, it works fine.   Everytime.   There is nothing in the apache error log corresponding to the times I'm seeing this.. any ideas?
[05:45] <jdmpike> ardchoille, that did it - thanks
[05:45] <Andruk> and my speakers are on, all cables connected, etc
[05:45] <chaizzilla> but over there we'd be talking about why leave gentoo for ubuntu
[05:45] <EriK_> andruk: perhaps try playing something with aplay for starters
[05:45] <ardchoille> jdmpike: Cool :)
[05:46] <visik7> sun rise here
[05:46] <visik7> :)
[05:46] <ardchoille> :)
[05:46] <EriK_> there is plenty to choose from in /usr/share/sounds
[05:46] <f00f-> welshbyte: thx, have read it, altho that page is very biased and discouraing, and is not the correct way imho to compile a kernel (vs make-kpkg)..
[05:46] <chaizzilla> are you in stpetersburg or something visik7?
[05:47] <visik7> Italy
[05:47] <chaizzilla> oh :)
[05:47] <Andruk> uh, aplay just gave me a whole bunch of errors, and i hadnt even picked a song
[05:47] <chaizzilla> oof
[05:47] <Andruk> kaffeine says that all audio drivers failed to initialize
[05:47] <EriK_> Andruk:  what does amixer have to say?  anything?
[05:47] <f00f-> chaizzilla: gentoo was nice. big repository. but repo sync times were extreme (ie. apt-get update), and compiling took long times, but i was looking for a desktop that i didnt need to mess with.
[05:47] <visik7> I think that in stpeterspurg sun is rised
[05:48] <chaizzilla> yea..
[05:48] <Andruk> mixer attach default error: no such device
[05:48] <welshbyte> f00f-: and now you've found one, you're messing with it? ;)
[05:48] <chaizzilla> gotcha f00f
[05:48] <Maje> I'm having troubles with getting my computer to recognize my ATI drivers instead of OpenMesa :(
[05:48] <EriK_> andruk: what sort of sound hardware?
[05:49] <mournahan> any one with any luck with wolfinstine enemy territory?
[05:49] <f00f-> welshbyte: well, all i want is a slightly more tuned kernel. if ubuntu repository had a performance-minded kernel optimized for pentium-m CPU, i'd apt-get it in a heartbeat :)
[05:50] <Andruk> uh, i dont know, a cheap, old thing i got awhile back
[05:50] <mournahan> I get sound but no video
[05:50] <Andruk> how would i go about finding out?
[05:50] <Coruscant> how do i use alien to convert a rpm.bin to deb now jeez
[05:50] <jdmpike> ardchoille, is there a way for Easy tag to get artist/album information from directory structure?
[05:50] <EriK_> andruk: do 'lspci' from a shell and see if it tells you anything interesting
[05:50] <jdmpike> it is hilaroius how important meta-data becomes when you get a cool new MP3 player
[05:51] <ardchoille> jdmpike: I've never done that, so I am not sure
[05:51] <ardchoille> jdmpike: lol
[05:51] <Andruk> 0000:00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI (rev 02)
[05:51] <Andruk>         Subsystem: Ensoniq Creative Sound Blaster AudioPCI128
[05:51] <chaizzilla> has anyone used spong?  i'm also looking for something to get over tivoli with
[05:52] <EriK_> hmmmmmmmmmmm, Andruk, maybe try 'lsmod | grep snd' to see if it's trying to load any audio modules at all
[05:52] <ardchoille> Coruscant: Are you sure that app isn't in the Ubuntu repos? It's best to check the repos as converting from rpm is a sort of last resort
[05:52] <Coruscant> um its the jre stuff
[05:52] <Coruscant> it may be i didnt look
[05:52] <Maje> I'm having troubles with getting my computer to recognize my ATI drivers instead of OpenMesa, nothing on the forums has worked
[05:52] <ardchoille> Coruscant: There is a bunch of jre stuff in the repos
[05:53] <Coruscant> i need the newest runtime enviroment for limewire
[05:53] <ardchoille> !jre
[05:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about jre - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:53] <ReWT_AxS> how do i do a checksum in ubuntu?
[05:53] <ardchoille> !java
[05:53] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[05:53] <meathead> can someone help me install pre-radeon 9550 drivers on a fresh ubuntu install
[05:53] <ardchoille> ReWT_AxS: md5sum ?
[05:53] <Coruscant> oh cool it is
[05:54] <EriK_> rewt: /usr/bin/md5sum
[05:54] <ReWT_AxS> yes
[05:54] <meathead> the ati drivers lack support and install the library fiel taht everyone says fixes it doesn't
[05:54] <EriK_> MD5SUM(1)
[05:54] <Maje> meathead: i can't get 9800 proprietary drivers working myself
[05:54] <ReWT_AxS> no how do i check an iso i just downloaded
[05:54] <Maje> meathead: but there's some how-tos that work with some older open source ones on the forums
[05:54] <ardchoille> md5sum file.iso
[05:54] <ardchoille> compare that to the one on the server
[05:55] <meathead> the 9800 drivers work with fglrx
[05:55] <Maje> Well, not for me.
[05:55] <ReWT_AxS> ?
[05:56] <CalcMaster86>  chaizzilla: were you able to find anything on the sundance driver?
[05:56] <dr_willis> ReWT_AxS,  md5sum file.iso
[05:56] <ReWT_AxS> k
[05:56] <Andruk> pastebin is being really slow
[05:56] <ReWT_AxS> thanks
[05:56] <Andruk> drew@kubuntu:~$ lsmod | grep snd
[05:56] <Andruk> snd_seq_dummy           3844  0
[05:56] <Andruk> snd_seq_oss            29440  0
[05:56] <Andruk> snd_seq_midi            8608  0
[05:56] <Andruk> snd_rawmidi            22816  1 snd_seq_midi
[05:56] <Andruk> snd_seq_midi_event      6656  2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
[05:56] <poningru> woah dude
[05:56] <Andruk> snd_seq                44688  6 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
[05:56] <ardchoille> !paste
[05:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:56] <Andruk> snd_seq_device          8204  5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
[05:56] <Andruk> snd_pcm_oss            46368  0
[05:56] <Andruk> snd_pcm                78344  1 snd_pcm_oss
[05:56] <Andruk> snd_timer              21764  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
[05:56] <Andruk> snd_page_alloc         10120  1 snd_pcm
[05:57] <Andruk> snd_mixer_oss          16128  1 snd_pcm_oss
[05:57] <ardchoille> !paste > Andruk
[05:57] <Andruk> snd                    48644  8 snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mixer_oss
[05:57] <Andruk> soundcore               9184  1 snd
[05:57] <Andruk> drew@kubuntu:~$
[05:57] <lecaros> Andruk read the channel topic!!!
[05:57] <Maje> That spam was fun!
[05:57] <Andruk> yeah, well, pastebin wasnt working
[05:57] <|thunder> !pastebin
[05:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:57] <Maje> Where's John Cleese when you need him?
[05:57] <ardchoille> Maje: lol
[05:57] <owen_> how do you make a link to a folder on your desktop in the terminal?
[05:58] <lecaros> Andruk http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org, or pastebin.com
[05:58] <|thunder> ln -s
[05:58] <Andruk> as i said before, pastebin.com is not working for me
[05:58] <Madpilot> Andruk, do that again and you'll be removed - use a pastebin, there are lots if one is down!
[05:58] <Andruk> um, okay, thanks
[05:58] <|thunder> ln -s /target /home/user/Desktop
[05:58] <Madpilot> Andruk, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:58] <|thunder> or ctrl-shift drag a folder from naut
[05:58] <ardchoille> Andruk: Read the topic, that pastebin is usually good
[05:59] <naut> |thunder, pardon?
[05:59] <Samineru> anyone feel like helping me with a possibly long questoin
[05:59] <|thunder> lol. was shorthand for nautilus
[06:00] <nalioth> Samineru: we can only answer if we see the question first
[06:00] <naut> oh i see
[06:00] <Andruk> there we go: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20166
[06:00] <Samineru> nalioth sorry was just wondering if anyone was free because oftne i come in and noone responds
[06:00] <Andruk> sry guys...
[06:00] <naut> Samineru, ask and you shall be flamed
[06:00] <naut> most likely
[06:00] <naut> bu ask anyway
[06:00] <|thunder> Samineru, that means we dont know
[06:01] <Samineru> nalioth but anyways I was wondering if it is possible to reformat my latop from say the ubuntu iso on my external\
[06:01] <|thunder> harisund, pee-wee
[06:01] <|thunder> harisund, pee-wee's playhousw is on tv
[06:01] <naut> You want to run ubuntu from a CD and play with your hard drive, Samineru?
[06:01] <|thunder> damn auto complete
[06:01] <Samineru> yes, but my cd drive is broken
[06:01] <|thunder> was just : ha, pee-wee's playhouse is on.   dang
[06:01] <wirelain> |thunder: Yeah ... it's slightly distressing.
[06:02] <naut> Samineru, where else do you hve that iso
[06:02] <naut> do you have it on your hard drive
[06:02] <wirelain> naut: If you have to downlaod i recommend torrenting it ...
[06:02] <Samineru> well I dont actually have it yet but i could download it
[06:03] <inc|freaky> hi all. does anyone know how to add GIF support to rrdtool?
[06:03] <Samineru> I also have the physical cds
[06:03] <naut> Oh right,
[06:03] <naut> you want to boot from an external CD drive?
[06:03] <Blinker> ubuntu supports hyper-threading chipsets, right?
[06:04] <Samineru> naut the only exteranall cd drive I thought I had has a port nonexistant on my computer
[06:04] <wirelain> Does your motherboard support boot USB/firewire?
[06:04] <nalioth> Samineru: yes you can do that
[06:04] <Samineru> nalioth and how would i do that
[06:04] <nalioth> Samineru: are you gonna use the whole drive for Ubuntu ?
[06:04] <mournahan> any info on intel video cards
[06:05] <Samineru> nalioth for now
[06:05] <nalioth> Samineru: during the install process, it'll ask you if you want to use the whole drive
[06:05] <Samineru> nalioth and I will say yes, I am using  ubuntu right now
[06:05] <Samineru> nalioth, and i have gone through the install process before
[06:06] <nalioth> Samineru: sounds good
[06:06] <miles> Hey all
[06:06] <miles> Okay, I have done the worst thing in the world, and I need someone's help.
[06:06] <naut> Samineru, http://openfacts.berlios.de/index-en.phtml?title=Linux_bootable_USB_key_HOWTO
[06:06] <Blinker> miles:  ctrl-z? =p
[06:06] <miles> I installed ubuntu and wasn't paying attention to the partition mapping, and installed it over the top of my windows drive.
[06:06] <Blinker> as
[06:06] <wirelain> miles: rm -rf ?
[06:06] <Blinker> ask*
[06:07] <miles> I have all my work on there!
[06:07] <Samineru> naut/nalioth for some reason the computer says I have no disk space left though I am sure I do
[06:07] <miles> I have two drives, but part of the partitions are on the windows drive /dev/hda
[06:07] <naut> Samineru, type du -sh
[06:07] <wirelain> you deleted a needed partition?
[06:08] <miles> yeah.
[06:08] <naut> it's probably one of your partitions that is full
[06:08] <miles> I know, let the bashing begin.
[06:08] <wirelain> search for drive recovers software, pay the bounty.
[06:08] <wirelain> 'drive recovery'
[06:08] <miles> that's the only way?
[06:08] <wirelain> that is by far the easiest.
[06:08] <Blinker> pretty much
[06:08] <miles> dang it.
[06:08] <miles> Okay.
[06:08] <miles> Well I guess that solves that issue.
[06:08] <miles> One other thing, maybe you all can help with this too.
[06:09] <wirelain> the other ways involve using the free part of many differnt programs ... take an image fiorst is you are going to do that though.
[06:09] <poningru> Samineru: just ask dude
[06:09] <Samineru> nalioth/naut should i put the iso on my external or the hd
[06:09] <miles> I followed the instructions on the forums on how to get sound working, but alas, it continues to evade me.
[06:09] <Samineru> poningru dude?
[06:10] <nalioth> Samineru: the iso should be burnt to a cd-r at 4x or less AND after you've verified the integrity of the image
[06:10] <Samineru> naut, i got an error opening that webpage
[06:10] <Blinker> miles:  desktop or laptop?
[06:10] <miles> desktop
[06:10] <Blinker> onboard?
[06:10] <OPTiCO> hi! just discovered something "not-so-positive" in my dmesg. Seems to me that my i810 can't find mem. to use. "Unable to reserve mem region #3:10000000@c0000000 for device 0000:00:02.0"
[06:11] <Samineru> nalioth, my cd drive is not working, the root of the problem
[06:11] <miles> yes
[06:11] <Coir> How can I see what my DNS servers are using ifconfig?
[06:11] <miles> it's a via8237
[06:11] <dr_willis> OPTiCO,  could be its trying and if that fails trys some where else.
[06:11] <dr_willis> OPTiCO,  is it working?
[06:11] <visik7> anyone know a site where I can upload about 1gb of files ?
[06:11] <nalioth> Samineru: ah, i see
[06:11] <visik7> to share ?
[06:11] <naut> Samineru, just google for boot flash drive linux
[06:11] <nalioth> Samineru: do you have a friend with an external? and does your lappy boot from external drives?
[06:12] <Samineru> nalioth I have an external, that is where the iso is being downloaded right now
[06:12] <OPTiCO> dr_willis: Nah... got 8mb of gfx-mem.
[06:12] <Blinker> miles: join #blinker and i'll try to help ya out with that one
[06:12] <naut> Samineru, is that an external hard drive
[06:12] <nalioth> Samineru: an external hard drive or optical drive?
[06:12] <dr_willis> OPTiCO,  ick
[06:12] <wirelain> Coir: you can check your router (if you are on broadband)
[06:12] <OPTiCO> dr_willis: set to 64mb in both xorg.conf and bios
[06:13] <Samineru> nalitoh/naut I do not know the difference but i am geussing  external
[06:13] <Samineru> hard drive
[06:13] <Samineru> oh you mean cd drive or hard drive? hard drive
[06:13] <miles> k
[06:13] <naut> Samineru, what type of connection
[06:13] <naut> does your drive have
[06:13] <Samineru> naut usb 2.0
[06:14] <naut> possibly you can install ubuntu on your external drive and boot from there
[06:14] <nalioth> Samineru: you'll need an external cdrom/dvd drive, i suspect
[06:15] <nalioth> Samineru: or what naut said
[06:15] <naut> Samineru, if it's USB, you might be able to adapt the flash drive instructions
[06:16] <Ikki> hola
[06:16] <MarkusV> Coir, with ifconfig, I dont know. But, GUI has 'Network Settings' (my own translation) where DNS is listed.
[06:17] <Samineru> WOAH I just got this error opening synaptics: Failed to run synaptic as user root: Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.
[06:22] <ardchoille> Samineru: ls -la ~/.Xauthority  Who owns that file?
[06:22] <Samineru> me
[06:23] <Samineru> ardchoille "-rw-------  1 rob rob 116 2006-08-09 23:38 /home/rob/.Xauthority"
[06:23] <ardchoille> Samineru: ok
[06:24] <poningru> ardchoille/ Samineru its probably because his drive is full
[06:24] <Samineru> poningru though it is not, even though the computer said it is
[06:25] <Samineru> poningru, I deleted some files and and it still said 0b free
[06:25] <traviss_> why cant i install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly? it says it wont let me
[06:26] <wirelain> traviss_: they are too ugly?
[06:26] <ardchoille> traviss_: Did you use sudo?
[06:26] <traviss_> hah yeah
[06:27] <traviss_> man, all i want to do is play mp3s, mpegs, etc
[06:28] <wirelain> !restricted
[06:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:28] <SeeDe> i transferred 3 pdfs using the GUI and now nautilus is using ~90 CPU and the desktop has frozen
[06:28] <traviss_> Yeah I looked at that
[06:28] <Lilandra> hi
[06:28] <traviss_> it told me to install the gstreamer ugly, and it wont let me
[06:29] <robson> ola
[06:29] <Samineru> whatever Ill just get my cd drive fixed
[06:29] <traviss_> 'gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly' is not available in any software channel
[06:29] <SeeDe> nautilus is also using 50% RAM. anyone know why its doing this?
[06:29] <Lilandra> anybody minds me asking for help?
[06:29] <robson> alguel pode me ajudar??
[06:29] <Lilandra> ive tried googling...
[06:30] <nalioth> !tell traviss_ about repos
[06:30] <ardchoille> !info gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[06:30] <ubotu> gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly: GStreamer plugins from the "ugly" set. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.10.3-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 176 kB, installed size 484 kB
[06:30] <robson> alguem fala brasileiro??
[06:30] <nalioth> traviss_: enable universe and multiverse repos .  read your private msg for instructions
[06:30] <nalioth> !br
[06:30] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[06:30] <ardchoille> traviss_: It's in universe
[06:31] <visik7> 3 hours of work to get nothing
[06:32] <visik7> and here are 6:30 am
[06:32] <Nelo> Hello, the wireless connection in my laptop is no longer working. I had set up bcm43xx-fwcutter initially it was working fine until a couple days ago. The card bind to eth1 and now when booting up it no longer binds to eth1.  The error message is no such device.  Any ideas on how to fix this?
[06:32] <traviss_> thanks
[06:32] <Lilandra> my trash applet won't start in gnome and keeps asking me if i want to delete it :(
[06:32] <visik7> I'm quite tired
[06:32] <miles> delete the trash?
[06:32] <miles> What?
[06:32] <miles> lol
[06:32] <Lilandra> no no
[06:32] <Lilandra> i login to gnome right
[06:33] <visik7> maybe one coffe is not enough
[06:34] <wirelain> visik7: I recommend 3am mud.
[06:34] <visik7> uh ?mud ?
[06:34] <Lilandra> and i get :The panel encountered a problem while loading OAFIID:GNOME_Panel_TrashApplet" Do you want to delete this applet from configuration
[06:34] <wirelain> that's 8o'clock with 3 extra scoops inna pot.
[06:35] <Lilandra> i've seen other people with this problem...they said hostname problem (but I htink it's ok...not too positive) or delete .gconf, .gconfd, .gnome, .gnome2 but this didn't help
[06:35] <TBNolan> would anyone be willing to help me set up my ubuntu box to be able to remotely reboot via VNC ?
[06:35] <sdferfx> Where can I get a w32codecs package?
[06:35] <visik7> !restricted > sdferfx
[06:35] <ardchoille> !RestrictedFormats
[06:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:35] <visik7> or check seveas
[06:36] <yossman> miles?  nick is familiar heh
[06:37] <Lilandra> is ubotu the bot?
[06:37] <wirelain> u bot u
[06:37] <yossman> yea
[06:38] <rowanjl> anyone here know how to get sound working in UT2004? I've installed the openal packages, but its still silent
[06:38] <ardchoille> Lilandra: ubotu is one of the bots
[06:39] <visik7> rowanjl: opengl is for 3d not for audio
[06:39] <EdLin> !what are you?
[06:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about what are you? - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:39] <visik7> ut2004 probably use oss
[06:39] <rowanjl> visik7: openal...
[06:39] <visik7> oh sorry
[06:39] <rowanjl> :P
[06:39] <visik7> I've not sleeped :)
[06:39] <rowanjl> Heh. The only option is OpenAL :(
[06:41] <visik7> rowanjl: should relay on alsa or esd
[06:42] <rowanjl> visik7: relay on?
[06:42] <meathead> how do I check a link in ubuntu to make sure it points to what I want it to point to?
[06:42] <visik7> yes it depends to work
[06:42] <|thunder> go to the dir and ls -la
[06:43] <visik7> if  u are using esd check if it works correctly
[06:43] <meathead> thx
[06:43] <ardchoille> meathead: click the link?
[06:43] <abhinay> wot are the backports repositories ?
[06:43] <rowanjl> viktor: I've had no troubles with ESD
[06:43] <ardchoille> !backports
[06:43] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[06:44] <visik7> abhinay: same as ubuntu add  deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ ubuntu-backports main restricted ...
[06:44] <azureal> sigh...you're trouble shooting ut2k4...i'm not even able to get reg ut goty to work on this internal graphics card...
[06:44] <visik7> time to sleep
[06:44] <visik7> bye guys
[06:44] <ardchoille> g'nite visik7
[06:45] <rowanjl> goodnight then
[06:45] <sloucher> I need sound for an open office presentation. Do I have to convert .mp3's to wav? I there a good program to do that?
[06:46] <jbroome> check out audacity
[06:46] <rowanjl> so, does anyone have an idea of what I'm supposed to do to get sound working? :P
[06:46] <sloucher> thank you jbroome
[06:46] <abhinay> wich repository provides all gnome softwares ?
[06:47] <TBNolan> cups is required for printing in ubuntu?
[06:48] <jrattner1> ?
[06:48] <sloucher> rowanjl: usually when there's no sound there's a problem with the volume control
[06:48] <rowanjl> er
[06:48] <rowanjl> no sound in UT2004...
[06:48] <sloucher> oh, sorry
[06:48] <rowanjl> :P
[06:50] <sloucher> jbroome: audacity rocks, I'm done, that was easy
[06:51] <jbroome> sloucher: Nice!
[06:51] <cef> rowanjl: sounds like it's using OSS sound, which isn't enabled by default afaik
[06:51] <rowanjl> cef: openal uses oss?
[06:53] <TBNolan> whats the default root password- when i installed i don't remember it asking me: i'm trying to su root
[06:53] <ardchoille> !root > TBNolan
[06:53] <TBNolan> heh
[06:53] <TBNolan> tru
[06:54] <TBNolan> oh, it wasn't a joke
[06:54] <cef> rowanjl: I think so
[06:54] <ardchoille> no, check your pm ;)
[06:54] <rowanjl> cef: well, if I installed alsa-oss, what else do you think I'd need? :/
[06:55] <TBNolan> ardchoille: any way to unlock root?
[06:55] <wirelain> TBNolan: brute force?
[06:55] <|thunder> sudo passwd
[06:55] <ardchoille> TBNolan: It's not supported config and it can cause problems.
[06:55] <LaserJock> TBNolan: you don't need root, that's the point of sudo
[06:56] <TBNolan> i can do anything root can do while using sudo?
[06:56] <ardchoille> yes
[06:56] <LaserJock> yep
[06:56] <AfterDeath> yep
[06:56] <TBNolan> still kinda seems like its hiding something from me :-p
[06:56] <ardchoille> TBNolan: use sudo fpr command line apps and use gksudo for gui apps
[06:56] <TBNolan> okie
[06:57] <LaserJock> TBNolan: yes, it is hiding you from doing something bad like running root 24x7
[06:57] <TBNolan> heh
[06:57] <cef> rowanjl: does 'lsmod |grep _oss' return anything?
[06:57] <cef> rowanjl: don't paste it, just tell me if it returns a few lines
[06:57] <Eclypse> hey all
[06:57] <rowanjl> yea, it returns about 14 lines
[06:57] <Eclypse> can someone walk me through getting the ATI Drivers working correctly?
[06:57] <cef> rowanjl: hrm.. then it should be working.. hrmmmmm
[06:57] <Spit> ho huys!
[06:58] <Eclypse> I plan to get XGL set up
[06:58] <Eclypse> and
[06:58] <Spit> im new to ubunut :)
[06:58] <Eclypse> I want to make sure I'm doing everything right the first time
[06:58] <cef> rowanjl: or at least oss should be working
[06:58] <rowanjl> mm
[06:58] <ardchoille> !ati > Eclypse
[06:58] <TBNolan> !vnc > TBNolan
[06:58] <Spit> how do i open a file ? when i open it i cant use it... like linux for aim
[06:58] <Eclypse> ardchoilly, spare me.
[06:58] <TBNolan> !freenx > TBNolan
[06:58] <rtgr> Hi, dumb question - how do i get my "Users List" attached back to the channel window in x-chat-gnome ? :) Now i have to type in CTRL-U to see the current users, it's annoying
[06:58] <rowanjl> !goatse > ATI
[06:58] <rowanjl> goatse > ATI
[06:58] <Eclypse> I don't need any of the basic crap
[06:59] <rowanjl> Gives me an error using ! ;)
[06:59] <ardchoille> Eclypse: Just trying to help, cool your attitude.
[06:59] <Eclypse> ardchoille, I am cool, attitudes are often misinterpreted online.
[06:59] <Eclypse> no tone of voice :(
[06:59] <Eclypse> lol
[06:59] <AlienX> Eclypse, ardchoille is very knowledgeable. I'd take his advise ;)
[07:00] <wirelain> Eclypse: take care with your tone of text?
[07:00] <Eclypse> Alienx what advice?
[07:00] <wirelain> heheh
[07:00] <AlienX> Eclypse, any of it :)
[07:00] <Eclypse> AlienX, no such advice that was useful to me, as of yet.
[07:00] <kjm> is there an smp-nvidia kernel that can be installed using dpkg?
[07:00] <Eclypse> we'll see.
[07:00] <Spit> HELP ME
[07:00] <jordanau> okay i have a crazy idea and i need someone who is good with java to help me
[07:00] <Spit> HOW DO I OPE NFILES?
[07:00] <AlienX> Spit, do NOT type in caps
[07:00] <Spit> how do i open files :)
[07:01] <Eclypse> lol
[07:01] <yossman> too broad a question spit
[07:01] <Eclypse> double click?
[07:01] <TBNolan> caps lock is cruise control for coolness
[07:01] <yossman> what kind of file
[07:01] <Eclypse> lol
[07:01] <AlienX> Spit, be more specific. What types of files?
[07:01] <kjm> Spit, what type of files?  Double click is usually a good guess.
[07:01] <Spit> well when i download linux progz... iopen it but i get nopthing...
[07:01] <jordanau> groupwise client comes with its own jre that doesn't work when run
[07:01] <Eclypse> anyways
[07:01] <wirelain> if they are the folder variety, i recommend hjands.
[07:01] <Spit> do i need to do something in terminal?
[07:01] <kjm> What type of "progz"?
[07:01] <yossman> spit, for some things, yes you run them from terminal
[07:01] <Madpilot> Spit, what type of files?
[07:01] <AlienX> Spit, proably because progz are for 31337 h4x0r$ only
[07:01] <jordanau> could i delete that crappy java and put a link to my good install in the folder
[07:01] <yossman> otherwise they show up in your menus
[07:01] <yossman> haha alienx
[07:01] <AlienX> :)
[07:01] <AfterDeath> AlienX: you butcher it. its 1337
[07:01] <farous> spit normally you install linux progs from the package manager
[07:01] <Spit> i am ellet?
[07:01] <Eclypse> ardchoille, My video drivers messed up again, but before I screwed around with the settings causing them to mess up, I don't think there was any direct rendering for the desktop.
[07:02] <ardchoille> AlienX: lol
[07:02] <Spit> i program in C++
[07:02] <kjm> Spit : Obviously not
[07:02] <Spit> in windows...
[07:02] <Spit> but wondos sucks
[07:02] <Spit> n00b
[07:02] <jordanau> anybody here remember aol progz haha
[07:02] <AfterDeath> heh
[07:02] <Spit> linux owns
[09:13] (kjm/#ubuntu) yes, usually hitting either the F1 or del key at boot will get you there.
[09:13] (preston/#ubuntu) bayzider: so try to Sync your iPod now
[09:14] (bayzider/#ubuntu) preston: yeah the sync worked but i can sync on windows i need to beable to sync photos
[09:14] (dmitriy/#ubuntu) Does anyone know what this error means?Opening video decoder: [dmo]  DMO video codecs
[09:14] (dmitriy/#ubuntu) Win32 LoadLibrary failed to load: wmv9dmod.dll, /usr/lib/win32/wmv9dmod.dll, /usr/local/lib/win32/wmv9dmod.dll
[09:14] (dmitriy/#ubuntu) IMediaObject ERROR: 0x85de2b5  could not open DMO DLL (0x0 : 0)
[09:14] (dmitriy/#ubuntu) Failed to create DMO filter
[09:14] (dmitriy/#ubuntu) ERROR: Could not open required DirectShow codec wmv9dmod.dll.
[09:14] (dmitriy/#ubuntu) You need to upgrade/install the binary codecs package.
[09:14] (shawnr_/#ubuntu) fyrestrtr, i installed the debs... its not working
[09:14] (dmitriy/#ubuntu) Go to http://mplayerhq.hu/homepage/dload.html
[09:14] (kjm/#ubuntu) seshomaru  - good luck with it.  I do have to go to work now.
[09:14] (dmitriy/#ubuntu) VDecoder init failed :(
[09:14] (shawnr_/#ubuntu) !pastebin
[09:14] (ubotu/#ubuntu) pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:14] (preston/#ubuntu) bayzider: you want to upload photos from Ubuntu to your iPod?
[09:14] (preston/#ubuntu) dmitriy: please don't paste in the channel
[09:14] (houssem/#ubuntu) don't work preston
[09:14] <fyrestrtr> shawnr_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DemocracyPlayer
[09:14] <bayzider> preston:yes becuase itunes has never worked on windows for me
[09:14] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: could you give me a guide or something?
[09:14] <dmitriy> preston -- sorry
[09:15] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: I am the guide lol
[09:15] <preston> houssem: sudo updatedb      wait          then     locate php5
[09:15] <seshomaru> kjm - thanks
[09:15] <preston> dmitriy: np
[09:15] <kjm> seshomaru - no worries.  Good luck with it.
[09:15] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: lmao... so just remove it... and come back where when it is done? lol
[09:15] <yacek19> I have got small problem with kde 3.4.5. Everytime I run kde, KPersonalizer turns on. It's annoying.
[09:15] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: aye
[09:15] <tyeth> i dont know the default login to configure caudium on ubuntu 606
[09:15] <tyeth> can any1 advise
[09:16] <dmitriy> preston -- where can i get an answer about this error?
[09:16] <preston> bayzider: did you ever use any extra programs to mess with your iPod on windows...that could've hosed the directory
[09:16] <fyrestrtr> tyeth: what do you mean by 'default login' ?
[09:16] <tyeth> user and pass for web configuration interface
[09:16] <bayzider> preston: no itunes just dosent install i just recently refresed my ipod so its not that
[09:17] <houssem> ok, i found it in /etc/php5/cli
[09:17] <fyrestrtr> tyeth: you might want to look at the help of cadium.
[09:17] <houssem> and now how to start a php script ?
[09:17] <fyrestrtr> houssem: php -q file.php
[09:17] <tyeth> yeh, the problem is, u set it urself during install
[09:17] <preston> dmitriy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#w32codecs
[09:17] <houssem> and i should be in the /etc/php5/cli  ??
[09:17] <fyrestrtr> houssem: no, it can be anywhere.
[09:18] <tyeth> but im using ubuntu, with synaptic packagae manager and it doesnt prompt you for any input during install of caudium
[09:18] <preston> bayzider: so you can't see your iPod name on the left from within gtkpod?
[09:18] <dmitriy> preston -- the problem is i already have it installed
[09:18] <fyrestrtr> houssem: mkdir ~/my-php-scripts && cd ~/my-php-scripts && echo "<?php echo 'Hello there! This is php version'.phpversion(); ?>" >> test.php && php -q test.php
[09:19] <preston> dmitriy: writing over it should be fine
[09:19] <shawnr_> fyrestrtr, not working: http://pastebin.ca/124788
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[09:22] (preston/#ubuntu) bayzider: you got me, bud...sorry I couldn't help you : (
[09:22] (Pyromaniak/#ubuntu) Flannel: the one for Xgl doesn't work for any of my machines...
[09:22] (bayzider/#ubuntu) preston: ok thanks any ways
[09:22] (Pyromaniak/#ubuntu) Flannel: its ok though... they all work now
[09:22] (Flannel/#ubuntu) Pyromaniak: XGL isn't officially supported by ubuntu in Dapper, so, it's not guarenteed ;)
[09:22] (preston/#ubuntu) bayzider: let's ask the room if they can help....
[09:23] (preston/#ubuntu) @Anyone: can anyone help 'bayzider' with a gtkpod .. photo sync question?
[09:23] (Pyromaniak/#ubuntu) Flannel: I'm not complaining.. just noting.. =P this machine is just a "for fun and break stuff" enviroments
[09:23] (beesandflowers/#ubuntu) hello all. i am looking for a vpn (pptp) software for ubuntu. i find mpe / pptp vpn client but it states that this software was created to support microsoft pptp servers. but i need to connect to a watchguard via pptp. do i use the same software?
[09:23] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: Ok, Wine is removed via synaptic
[09:24] <preston> beesandflowers: try OpenVPN
[09:24] <beesandflowers> preston: thanks, i will
[09:24] <erryko> HELP ME PLEASEEE!! i have downloaded the ubuntu live cd, but when the gui starts, after some seconds it completly freezes. i can't do anything! so, i downloaded and installed the alternate vversion, but it's the same. what can i do? thanks everyone
[09:24] <dmitriy> preston -- i installed it and everytime i run a video it just hangs and takes me to the login screen
[09:24] <rulus> beesandflowers: networkmanager?
[09:25] <abhinay> mplayer says "could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound , help plz ?
[09:25] <beesandflowers> rulus: what is networkmanager. something standard in ubuntu?
[09:25] <preston> beesandflowers: i believe that's the name....do a search for VPN on ubuntuforums to be sure
[09:25] <erryko> i started ubuntu in recovery mode (so, without services) and with root i wrote gdm, and it works
[09:25] <fyrestrtr> shawnr_: I think you need the browser suite, because democracy uses it as its web browsing component.
[09:25] <beesandflowers> preston: ok, i will check that out as well. thank you.
[09:25] <preston> dmitriy: the error you received had to with restricted codecs...downloading the correct ones should correct the problem
[09:25] <erryko> but.... not well, and i can't do this everytime :S
[09:25] <fyrestrtr> shawnr_: so, sudo apt-get install mozilla-browser
[09:26] <shawnr_> gay, i'll pass. thanks anyway though
[09:26] <shawnr_> too dependent
[09:26] <nu> =)
[09:26] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: sorry, I'm back
[09:26] <dmitriy> preston -- it used to work, and after i turn on the computer it just doesnt work anymore
[09:26] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: okay, now download the latest wine source tarball.
[09:27] <preston> dmitriy: hmm...okay...do you have Gnome or KDE?  Why is it throwing you to a login screen?  Do you have GUI installed?  YOu need X at least
[09:27] <Necrosan_> yo
[09:27] <Necrosan_> I have a Sun Ultra 60
[09:27] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: go to winehq.org, on the top right you'll see a latest release box, click on the link, and then click on the download link.
[09:27] <Necrosan_> I'd like to make it an ubuntu desktop
[09:27] <Necrosan_> gnome or xubuntu
[09:28] <Necrosan_> It has dual 360mhz ultra sparcs, and 1024mb ram
[09:28] <Necrosan_> What would you recommend I run
[09:28] <Necrosan_> And how do I go from ubuntu-server to desktop?
[09:28] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: its downloading
[09:28] <fyrestrtr> for your last question, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:29] <Necrosan_> So after I get it installed and running properly
[09:29] <preston> dmitriy: try dist-upgrading...you may have some missing depencies that can be solved this way
[09:29] <Necrosan_> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:29] <Necrosan_> Will get me to where a regular install would have?
[09:29] <dmitriy> preston -- Gnome, whenever i open any video file it just throws me to login screen, i have no clue why, if i did then i would fix it by now. Its a pretty much clean dapper install. It does have X
[09:29] <preston> dmitriy: dependencies
[09:29] <yossman> necrosan, probably close enough that you could fix the rest
[09:29] <yossman> using synaptic etc
[09:30] <ticki> how can i update Ubuntu where there is no internet connection. i am giving away a DVD, but people won't be able to update it.. is there a way i can burn the repository into a DVD?
[09:30] <Bonez> dmitriy: wow that sounds like a serious problem :( how did you go about installing your codecs?
[09:30] <preston> dmitriy: sorry...I have not heard of this ever happening...have you checked/posted on the forums yet?
[09:30] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: got it (on desktop)
[09:30] <dmitriy> Bonez -- u used automatix
[09:30] <preston> dmitriy: your X / Gnome seems hosed
[09:30] <Bonez> dmitriy: that sounds nasty. what sort of video card do you have?
[09:30] <dmitriy> preston -- could be
[09:30] <dmitriy> Bonez -- x850 pro
[09:31] <dmitriy> preston -- is there a way to reinstall it?
[09:31] <Bonez> dmitriy: what brand is that?
[09:31] <erryko> so noone can help me? :(
[09:31] <fateminasab> I want a converter to convert ogg to mp3. what program should i use?
[09:31] <h6w> Hey, I have a strange problem.  If I plug my wireless adapter in after my machine starts it gets assigned eth1 and works perfectly, however, if my wireless adapter is plugged in before my machine starts, it gets assigned eth2 and doesn't work.  Please help! :-)
[09:31] <dmitriy> Bonez -- ati
[09:31] <abhinay> no audio from mplayer , error: could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound   , any suggestions ?
[09:31] <acojlo> erryko, what?
[09:31] <shawnr_> HAHAHA, Microsoft blows!!! Who wants to see somthing funny as hell
[09:31] <nu> hey h6w
[09:31] <Bonez> shawnr_: bring it on :)
[09:31] <shawnr_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y_Jp6PxsSQ
[09:31] <h6w> hey nu.
[09:31] <dmitriy> Bonez -- everything worked fine untill the computer was not shutdown properly
[09:31] <Four23619> sure shawnr_
[09:32] <shawnr_> Four23619, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y_Jp6PxsSQ
[09:32] <erryko> i already wrote my problem, can i write it again?
[09:32] <Four23619> ty
[09:32] <nu> in the network manager thing, theres an option to which device to set to default.have you ried that?
[09:32] <carthik> I need to build a cheap, efficient PC for home use & have everything except the motherboard and CPU. I prefer AMD64 processors. Can anyone suggest a cheap mobo that works fine with Ubuntu, and is known for being good?
[09:32] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: okay, hold a second please, need to fetch my notes.
[09:32] <acojlo> erryko, write
[09:32] <Bonez> fateminasab: sudo apt-cache search ogg to mp3
[09:32] <yacek19> I have annoying problem with kde, every time I start kde, kpersonalizer shows up. Why is that?
[09:32] <erryko> with both normal and alternate version, wieh the gui starts, after some seconds, it freezes. i can't do ANYTHING
[09:32] <Bonez> dmitriy: if it's only a new install then I suggest you format and reinstall again; sounds liek something didn't go quite right
[09:33] <Four23619> and hello Bonez :o) you and i visit the same forum
[09:33] <preston> fateminasb: try Audacity
[09:33] <Bonez> Four23619: we do? which one?
[09:33] <erryko> i tried to start it in recovery mode, without services, and i started gdm, and it works
[09:33] <yossman> carthik you can get AMD-based motherboards from asus from like $60 i bet
[09:33] <yossman> asus and abit generally make good boards i hear.
[09:33] <Four23619> Whirlpool
[09:33] <acojlo> erryko, you have just installed ubuntu or you have modified it?
[09:33] <preston> fateminsb: truly a killer audio app
[09:33] <nu> h6w: did you try it?
[09:33] <dmitriy> Bonez -- i had it for about 2 weeks, i didnt install to many things but i would not be happy to format everything, i spent alot of time doing everything
[09:33] <erryko> just installed
[09:33] <h6w> nu, did I try what?
[09:33] <Bonez> Four23619: fantastic. i'm the one who keeps pushing this channel... lol. what is your name on WP?
[09:33] <carthik> yossman, question is are they good, and will it work with Ubuntu - I don't want it to NOT work with Ubuntu Linux :)
[09:33] <erryko> i didn't touch anything
[09:33] <Bonez> dmitriy: have you install XGL at all?
[09:33] <Four23619> Four23619, but i hardly post
[09:34] <dmitriy> Bonez -- nope
[09:34] <Four23619> im user 73332
[09:34] <acojlo> erryko, which graphic card you have?
[09:34] <Four23619> also from the same city
[09:34] <erryko> nvidia gforce 4. but this is not the problem, because
[09:34] <erryko> if i start only gdm, without the other services, it works properly
[09:34] <yossman> carthik i imagine they will work fine
[09:34] <h6w> nu, was that network manager default idea directed at me?  If so, yes, I tried it.  It doesn't work.
[09:34] <Bonez> dmitriy: sorry I've never heard of that problem and can't really suggest anything :( feel sorry for you though. hope you get it sorted out
[09:34] <carthik> thanks yossman
[09:34] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: if it helps any there is a "guide" for it on the winehq for Continuum (says how to install it, maybe you could just explain the steps?)
[09:34] <yossman> i don't use AMD chips precisely because i don't want any incompatibilities
[09:35] <erryko> i think that there is 1 service that freezes everythig
[09:35] <dmitriy> Bonez -- also sometimes when i login it throws me out and only logges in from like 2nd time or 3rd, and when i logout i get to a white scrren where im unable to do anything
[09:35] <^richiefrich> erryko can u get it to load on a ..  startx
[09:35] <yossman> but, having said that, AMD makes some nice chips
[09:35] <yossman> and they're cheaper than intel.
[09:35] <nu> nu: test
[09:35] <yossman> so ;)
[09:35] <acojlo> erryko, so when you start kdm it frozzes? Gdm works good, but when you log on it frozzes?
[09:35] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: yeah you need a boatload of packages first on your system, so I'm gathering a list of those.
[09:35] <`paul> issued ./configure and got this error "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler  cannot create executables"
[09:35] <`paul> ano solution?
[09:35] <erryko> what's kdm?
[09:35] <preston> `paul: sudo aptitude install build-essentials
[09:35] <acojlo> 'paul, you probably miss some packages
[09:35] <preston> `paul: then try again
[09:35] <`paul> ok will try
[09:35] <erryko> no, it freezed if it starts normally
[09:36] <^richiefrich> erryko can u get it to load on a ..  startx ?
[09:36] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: yeah... I need a boat cause I'm up the river without a paddle
[09:36] <erryko> to let it work i have to press esc while grub is loading
[09:36] <acojlo> erryko, gdm and kdm do same job - but don't think right now about kdm - because it's no sollution for your problem
[09:36] <rulus> join #edgy
[09:36] <erryko> and start the recovery mode
[09:36] <micahcowan> carthik, I (and many others) use AMD. They work excellently with Linux, which is specifically designed to work with them as well as other chips.
[09:36] <erryko> and from root i write gdm, so it works
[09:36] <acojlo> erryko, when you start normally, do you get to gdm login screen?
[09:36] <h6w> Sorry, nu.   Your line was in yellow   so it looked like the previous person's line.
[09:36] <Bonez> rulus: I think you mean #ubuntu+1
[09:37] <erryko> sometimes yes, sometimes no. because it freezes in different times
[09:37] <erryko> sometimes immediatly
[09:37] <erryko> sometimes after 2 secs
[09:37] <`paul> preston: still same error
[09:37] <acojlo> aha, ok, there is a way to debug
[09:37] <nu> h6w: no problem. On the network manager thing, there's an option to set a device to default. did you try it?
[09:37] <h6w> Nu, yes.
[09:37] <erryko> at best, 30 seconds
[09:37] <carthik> micahcowan, so a socket 939 and an AMD64 processor should do it then?
[09:37] <nu> h6w: then i don't know lol =/
[09:37] <dmitriy> Bonez -- hmmm i have 2 x sessions running for dual monitors, ill try disabling the second one maybe it will work
[09:37] <`paul> preston: can i pm u the result of install build-essentials?
[09:38] <acojlo> erryko, when you press ESC you have a option to select kernel. Go over normal kernel and then press 'E'
[09:38] <preston> `paul: what exactly are you trying to do?  sure.
[09:38] <h6w> My problem isn't so much that as the fact that it gets allocated eth2.  That seems weird to me.
[09:38] <micahcowan> carthik, I should think so.
[09:38] <erryko> oh.... ok but, i have to reinstall it now
[09:38] <Bonez> dmitriy: yes try this, that will less-complicate things and you may have more success. stip it down to bare minimum and work forward from there. best way to solve computer troubles :)
[09:38] <Bonez> Four23619: you there
[09:38] <erryko> can you write this in pm, so that i will read after?
[09:38] <Pyromaniak> Is there a better multi IM client then gaim? I'm not really liking it
[09:38] <yacek19> I have annoying problem with kde, every time I start kde, kpersonalizer shows up. Why is that?
[09:38] <Four23619> Bonez: yup
[09:38] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: now, I'm going to write a long line, just copy it and paste it in a terminal, okay?
[09:38] <yossman> nu have you done a RAM test on that machine
[09:38] <yossman> lately
[09:38] <dmitriy> Bonez -- haha, thanx...ill let you know somehow if it worked...cya
[09:38] <acojlo> erryko, then go over first line and select 'E' - then you can edit boot line. Delete just words 'quit' and 'usplash', press enter and press 'B'
[09:39] <yossman> memtest is one of the grub boot options
[09:39] <nu> yossman: no, why?
[09:39] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: sure man
[09:39] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: sudo apt-get install build-essential fontforge freeglut3-dev libc6-dev libexpat1-dev libfontconfig1-dev libfreetype6-dev libgcrypt11-dev libglib1.2-dev libglib2.0-dev libgnutls11-dev libgpg-error-dev libice-dev libieee1284-3-dev libjpeg62-dev libldap2-dev libltdl3-dev libmad0-dev libmng-dev libncurses5-dev libogg-dev libopencdk8-dev libpng12-dev libqt3-mt-dev libsm-dev libtasn1-2-dev libusb-dev libvorbis-dev libx11-dev lib
[09:39] <fyrestrtr> xcursor-dev libxext-dev libxft-dev libxi-dev libxml2-dev libxmu-dev libxrandr-dev libxrender-dev libxslt1-dev libxt-dev libxv-dev render-dev unixodbc-dev x-dev zlib1g-dev libcapi20-dev liblcms1-dev libcupsys2-dev libsane-dev libasound2-dev libarts1-dev libartsc0-dev libaudiofile-dev libesd0-dev libaudio-dev xlibs-dev libxxf86dga-dev libxxf86vm-dev libjack0.100.0-dev libicu34-dev libungif4-dev libssl-dev
[09:39] <yossman> because.. random freezing is sometimes the result of RAM problems
[09:39] <yossman> holy sh!t fyre
[09:39] <Pyromaniak> omg... why so many?
[09:39] <maffju> i installed lamp (following help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP) and it worked but apache won't automatically start in the boot process - is that intended and how do i fix it?
[09:39] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: they are things wine needs :)
[09:39] <nu> yossman: im not having freezing problems
[09:39] <erryko> ok, thank you!!!!!
[09:39] <erryko> i'm going to try it right now
[09:39] <acojlo> erryko, sorry, delete 'quiet' and 'usplash'. after enter and 'b' you will see boot process with many messages and you will see where it does stop.
[09:39] <nu> yossman: as a matter of fact, im not having any problems at all. you must've confused me with someone
[09:40] <^richiefrich> !pastebin > fyrestrtr
[09:40] <`paul> preston: im just installing a timer-applet for gnome T_T
[09:40] <markedwards> man, why are the ubuntu servers so damn sketchy?
[09:40] <Flannel> maffju: er, do you not have an apache script in /etc/init.d/ ?
[09:40] <yossman> nu, yea with erryko, sorry ;)
[09:40] <nu> yossman: np
[09:40] <yossman> i think erryko should do a RAM test
[09:40] <azcazandco> can nayone help me solve a dependency issue with gimpshop please?  I have managed to create a deb file from the rpm using alien but it wont install
[09:40] <yossman> is what i meant to say heh
[09:40] <nu> nu
[09:40] <erryko> but.. ubuntu is the only distro that doesn't work on me
[09:41] <maffju> Flannel, i do have a "apache2" script in /etc/init.d/ but apache doesn't start
[09:41] <babo> does anyone have a sip number I can test my ekiga against ... ? ... pls ?
[09:41] <nu> someone talk to me real quick
[09:41] <nu> testing color theme
[09:41] <erryko> i tried lots of distros, and everyone works
[09:41] <yossman> nu ;)
[09:41] <acojlo> yossman, well he can not explain the problem with good debug informations, so let's do it first this :)
[09:41] <erryko> kororaa as well
[09:41] <nu> lol tank you
[09:41] <yossman> aco, sure
[09:41] <Flannel> maffju: does apache start when you run sudo /etc/init.d/apahce2 restart?
[09:41] <acojlo> erryko, after that you can try 'dmesg' to see what kernel says about problems
[09:41] <markedwards> packages.ubuntu.com, its like 50/50
[09:41] <fyrestrtr> maffju: try sudo update-rc.d apache2 defaults
[09:41] <acojlo> but come here and you will try
[09:42] <maffju> just a moment, i'll try
[09:42] <erryko> i have to write it in the kernel options?
[09:42] <ticki> i want to edit the ubuntu iso file, how can i add more folders to it so ic an use up the free space in the DVD?
[09:42] <ticki> any tool recommended?
[09:42] <fyrestrtr> ticki: if you mess with the iso image, the cd won't boot :)
[09:42] <acojlo> erryko, dmesg - NO, dmesg is standard
[09:42] <Flannel> ticki: theres a guide on the wiki as to how to roll your own ISOs
[09:42] <Lattyware> Hey, it's not really Ubuntu related, but I have a problem with UT2004 running under Ubuntu, I use dual moniters, and it spans accross both instead of sticking to one moniter.
[09:42] <ticki> fyrestrtr: i will just add anoyher forlder.
[09:43] <Lattyware> Anyone know of a solution?
[09:43] <ticki> Flannel: thanks,, i will check the wiki then
[09:43] <erryko> ok, i go
[09:43] <preston> `paul: i replied in pm
[09:43] <erryko> ^_^ thank you for the patience
[09:43] <`paul> preston: hmmm didnt receive anythn
[09:43] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: there is a single 'lib' that fails... delete it?
[09:43] <nu> nu: <3
[09:44] <`paul> preston: maybe lag could u pls resend
[09:44] <Flannel> preston, `paul, you need to be registered and identified to query on freenode
[09:44] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: which one?
[09:44] <nu> night all
[09:44] <maffju> Flannel, no, apache does not start with /etc/init.d/apache2 :-(
[09:44] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: just says "lib"
[09:44] <`paul> T_T
[09:44] <maffju> fyrestrtr, it says "System startup links for /etc/init.d/apache2 already exist.", no change
[09:45] <Flannel> maffju: er, did you sudo? and append the 'restart' (or start) etc
[09:45] <ych> anyone know how i can play an mp3 file on a remote server - i mounted the server (its a windows server) and I can copy the files from it and play them locally, but i can't open them where they are
[09:45] <preston> `paul: I was having difficulties....just do this:   sudo aptitude install build-essential     (drop the 's' at the end) and then try to compile your program again
[09:45] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: is there a pastebin I could post the string you send into so you can see what I'm refering to?
[09:45] <erryko> oh... 1 thing... that strings that i have to write.. are the boot options?
[09:45] <Flannel> !paste
[09:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:45] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: its libxcursor-dev
[09:45] <fyrestrtr> there is a space where it shouldn't be
[09:46] <erryko> ah.. there is not usplash, only splash, is it ok?
[09:46] <ticki> Flannel: do you have the link to the article you mentioned.
[09:46] <ticki> i cannot find it.
[09:46] <RancidLM> how do i set my default compiling to gcc-4.0 im trying to install Parallels VM ?
[09:46] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: I hope you are right.. lol.. thats 114mb of dload
[09:46] <ticki> sorry.. i am not a lazy arse.. but i cannot find the article in question.
[09:46] <azcazandco> mcphail: are you about?
[09:46] <nalpha> how to mount smbfiles on server into my computer???
[09:46] <maffju> Flannel, i typed: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[09:47] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: lets hope :)
[09:47] <kintaro0e> hello guys.whats the difference between .bash_profile and .bashrc? i want to add a path on my $PATH for my account.any advice?
[09:47] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: bah.. slow dload... gonna take almost 3min to dload
[09:47] <|thunder> does anyone know the name of the advanced command line downloader? It like wget but better.
[09:48] <|thunder> i cant thhink of it for the life of me
[09:48] <Pyromaniak> nano?
[09:48] <Pyromaniak> erm.. nevermind
[09:48] <Pyromaniak> apt-get isn't advanced?
[09:48] <|thunder> nomego, like wget
[09:49] <|thunder> for downloading files
[09:49] <|thunder> with variables
[09:49] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: while you are worried about wine, I'm building cocoon and lenya -- its a bigger pain that your wine problem :)
[09:49] <ticki> does anybody know an article explaining how to modify an iso image?
[09:49] <Pyromaniak> I can't beleive I've gotta dload 114mb to play a 6mb game...
[09:50] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: no, you need to download 114 mb to build wine.
[09:50] <RancidLM> how do i set my default compiling to gcc-4.0 im trying to install Parallels VM ?
[09:50] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: you need wine to play the game :)
[09:50] <fyrestrtr> RancidLM: did you already install build-essential
[09:50] <^richiefrich> ticki  what do u want... just mount it and del file or edit it then make a new iso
[09:50] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: yeah, but before I got "helped" from the wine chat here on freenode... it ran.. lol
[09:51] <`paul> "libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13) but 2.3.5-1ubuntu12 is installed." does this mean i have to upgrade my version of ubuntu first?
[09:51] <Pyromaniak> fyr ok... its all done...
[09:51] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: oops.. its done
[09:51] <lhds> now that i have installed a new kernel and setup all of my cards ... is there a way to backup the system and save it on cd?
[09:51] <ticki> ^richiefrich: how do i write the new image?
[09:51] <RancidLM> fyrestrtr: no i didn't :S is that a package?
[09:52] <^richiefrich> ticki   mkisofs
[09:52] <nalpha> what's should i use "mount or smbmount" to mount folder in my server to my computer???
[09:52] <hayden> how can i give write access to a samba share for anyone that connects to it?
[09:52] <ticki> thanks.
[09:52] <^richiefrich> ticki is is a live
[09:52] <^richiefrich> CD ?
[09:52] <RancidLM> fyrestrtr: i just check synaptic.. ya i have it..
[09:52] <MatthewV> nalpha, depends what kind of server it is...
[09:52] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: would I be better off using the wiki to get cedega installed? lol
[09:52] <^richiefrich> ticki   u makin a liveCD ?
[09:52] <ticki> ^richiefrich: it is the Draper DVD..
[09:53] <ticki> i want to use up the free space.
[09:53] <MatthewV> nalpha, for a samba server, i think you can just use mount and specify -t smbfs but I'm not certain
[09:53] <ticki> Do you think it will work?
[09:53] <^richiefrich> ticki  -->  mkisofs -J -r -netatalk -hfs -probe -map boot/map.hfs -part -no-desktop -hfs-volid MyGentooLiveCD -hfs-bless ./boot -o ../gentoo.iso
[09:53] <^richiefrich> thats how for gentoo
[09:53] <lhds> ubuntu + updates instaaled is how chu gb approx?
[09:53] <nalpha> mmm.... smb file server...
[09:53] <fyrestrtr> RancidLM: gcc -v -- it should tell you on the last line what version you have. Mine is gcc version 4.0.3 (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5)
[09:53] <nalpha> oke i'm try first.. thanx ku
[09:53] <josh_> hi, im trying to compile a kernel with patches for my mobo, and im getting this - * Linux Kernel Configuration
[09:53] <josh_> *
[09:53] <josh_> *
[09:53] <josh_> * Code maturity level options
[09:53] <josh_> *
[09:53] <josh_> Prompt for development and/or incomplete code/drivers (EXPERIMENTAL) [Y/n/?]  y
[09:54] <josh_> *
[09:54] <josh_> * General setup
[09:54] <josh_> *
[09:54] <josh_> Local version - append to kernel release (LOCALVERSION) []  (NEW)
[09:54] <^richiefrich> DUDE
[09:54] <ticki> lhds: was that for me?
[09:54] <fyrestrtr> !ops
[09:54] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[09:54] <MatthewV> josh, see !pastebin
[09:54] <fyrestrtr> ah nevermind, Hobb is here.
[09:54] <MatthewV> sry, josh_ see !pastebin
[09:54] <lhds> how much gb is ubuntu installed and updated?
[09:54] <Madpilot> josh_, do that again, and you'll be removed - use a pastebin!
[09:54] <Amaranth> !pastebin > josh_
[09:54] <Hobbsee> fyrestrtr: ?
[09:54] <Hobbsee> fyrestrtr: i saw nothing.
[09:55] <^richiefrich> ticki   http://www.metadistribution.org/blog/Blog/E4917C00-34F7-4F3D-B704-29AA2C80F318.html   <-- old howto
[09:55] <MatthewV> Hobbsee, you were 1 second too late to see it
[09:55] <tuxtux> ciao
[09:55] <Madpilot> lhds, about 2Gb installed
[09:55] <lhds> man got 6 gb used
[09:55] <lhds> brrr where did all the
[09:55] <lhds> ++came from !!!!
[09:56] <RancidLM> fyrestrtr: it says im using 3.4  but i do have 4.0 installed is thier a way to change it to compile this one app.. iv tried set CC=gcc-4.0 but for some reason dmesg look like its using 3.4
[09:56] <ticki> ^richiefrich: by the way.. any way to include the latest updates in the .iso ?
[09:56] <^richiefrich> ticki that help
[09:56] <azcazandco> can anyone help my try and recover my opengl settings after trying to install xgl
[09:56] <^richiefrich> ticki just add them,...
[09:56] <blind> So, I have a dual monitor display set up with xinerama, and my screen caps only show the primary screen.. the second screen (or where it would be) is all black.
[09:56] <markedwards> anyone here running on a Mac Intel machine?
[09:57] <ticki> ^richiefrich: how?
[09:57] <maffju> yeah, seems like i found a solution: in /etc/default/apache2 NO_START is set to 1 instead of 0
[09:57] <^richiefrich> ticki idk what u mean how
[09:57] <^richiefrich> ticki  u want to build a liveCd ?
[09:57] <micahcowan> josh_,  do you have a question? It wasn't clear, and  you should really use make xconfig or at least menuconfig...
[09:58] <MatthewV> blind, obviously something setup wrong, check to make sure the secondary screen has a device, display and a screen sectoin, and that serverlayout is correctly set up
[09:58] <ticki> ^richiefrich: i don't know why i need to build the liveCD.. i just want to Add a folder to the current .iso.. that's it.. another question was how to include the latest updates of ubuntu in the new .iso image.
[09:58] <^richiefrich> ticki idk how u expect to edit an already made iso
[09:58] <blind> MatthewV: "correctly set up" means nothing to me. I know it's working, I know it's got a device, display, and screen section, and i can see stuff on it and use it.
[09:59] <josh_> i was trying to compile a patched kernel,  and i got thru all of it, and then whats in the paste bin came up http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20183
[09:59] <^richiefrich> ticki see want to change the iso.. the adding the dir is easy.. editing the files and adding the new updates is differnet
[09:59] <ticki> ^richiefrich: io don't know either.. but maybe the boot information was saved somewhere and as long i don't remove anything but just add.. i hoped i didn't have to do any extra work like creating a live cd
[09:59] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: is there a next step? lol
[09:59] <RancidLM> fyrestrtr: any ideas?
[09:59] <ticki> ^richiefrich: adding the updates is difficult?
[09:59] <^richiefrich> ticki no what u want to do is  roll your own iso..  i mean liveCD
[10:00] <MatthewV> blind, I'm sorry, maybe I misunderstood your question
[10:00] <^richiefrich> ticki what are u gonna do..  mount the iso and chroot to it
[10:00] <ticki> even if i only add a new folder?
[10:00] <josh_> Any ideas?>
[10:00] <^richiefrich> ticki and apt-get install them ?>
[10:00] <blind> MatthewV: Print Screen. when I print screen, it shows my first screen, but my second shows up as all black.
[10:00] <^richiefrich> ticki no u cant do that man .. the iso is built ,, on the apps it has in ti
[10:00] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: all that done?
[10:01] <^richiefrich> ticki i want to build your own
[10:01] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: Yes sir
[10:01] <^richiefrich> ticki  addind things is easy.. updating packages is different
[10:01] <micahcowan> josh_, that's the console pre-build configuration quiz...
[10:01] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: okay good, now mkdir ~/wine-src
[10:01] <xsquared> !kernelcompiling
[10:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about kernelcompiling - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:02] <^richiefrich> ticki do u see my logic ?
[10:02] <ticki> ^richiefrich: ok.. let go with the adding things only then
[10:02] <MatthewV> blind, sorry, i misunderstood that, I thought you meant that your second screen didn't show anything at all.... i'm sorry, because i cant help you, but if you find a solution, could you let me know, cause I have %bexactly%b the same problem on my machine
[10:02] <micahcowan> josh_, did you get to a part where it says it made bzimage and stuck it somewhere?
[10:02] <^richiefrich> ticki add them and redo the iso
[10:02] <josh_> nope
[10:02] <blind> MatthewV: hahaha alright
[10:02] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: done
[10:02] <ticki> what shall i do..  mount the iso? and redo it like...?
[10:02] <^richiefrich> ticki  man mkisofs
[10:02] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: then, cd ~/wine-src and then tar -xvzf /wherever/you/downloaded/wine-0.<tab>
[10:02] <^richiefrich> ticki yes mount the iso
[10:02] <MatthewV> bloch, so yeah, _now_ i know exactly what you mean...
[10:02] <ticki> ^richiefrich: i am reading: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountIso?highlight=%28iso%29#head-edea4160e9bc2ddbf727f5a5740b6d91bd5f6d5f
[10:02] <MatthewV> sry blind ^^
[10:03] <nalpha> 21967: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)
[10:03] <nalpha> SMB connection failed
[10:03] <nalpha> what's this mean??
[10:03] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: do I need <tab>?
[10:03] <^richiefrich> ticki thats tells u howto mount it ..
[10:03] <jeandelfrigo> Hello all
[10:03] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: <tab> means the tab key, you hit it for autocompletion :)
[10:03] <josh_> i edited the pastbin with all the code from when i put this into terminal " make-kpkg clean"
[10:03] <^richiefrich> mount -o loop myfile.iso /foo
[10:04] <ticki> ^richiefrich: sudo mkdir /media/cdimage; sudo mount -o rw,loop myfile.iso /media/cdimage;  and then add the folder.. and then us mkisofs and unmount it
[10:04] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: ahh.. right.. lol
[10:04] <Din1> hi
[10:04] <jeandelfrigo> Does anybody know if I can write an iso image to DVD instead of CD for an ubuntu install?
[10:04] <^richiefrich> ticki up try that..
[10:04] <Shinzetsu> how do I remove a folder using a terminal?
[10:04] <RancidLM> fyrestrtr: it says im using 3.4  but i do have 4.0 installed is thier a way to change it to compile this one app.. iv tried set CC=gcc-4.0 but for some reason dmesg look like its using 3.4
[10:04] <fyrestrtr> Shinzetsu: rm -r foldername
[10:04] <ticki> ^richiefrich: up?
[10:04] <^richiefrich> yup
[10:04] <fyrestrtr> RancidLM: I know there is, but I forgot the command :(
[10:05] <ticki> what do you men?
[10:05] <Shinzetsu> fyrestrtr: thanks, the -r is what I needed, what does it mean?
[10:05] <^richiefrich> mybe u can just umount it
[10:05] <ticki> *mean
[10:05] <jeandelfrigo> r = recursive
[10:05] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: not to sound completely stupid... but where is the desktop (for that command) ~/desktop/?
[10:05] <^richiefrich> ticki withthe write privliages ... mybe u can just umount /media/cdimage
[10:05] <^richiefrich> and it'll add what u needed
[10:06] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: ~ = /home/yourusername so ~/Desktop is /home/yourusername/Desktop (its Desktop, not desktop)
[10:07] <ticki> ^richiefrich: that would be sweet...
[10:07] <^richiefrich> ticki try it
[10:07] <^richiefrich> then remount it
[10:07] <^richiefrich> see what u get.. if it took
[10:07] <ticki> and see if it s there
[10:07] <^richiefrich> yes
[10:07] <ticki> cool. thanks man.
[10:07] <jeandelfrigo> Does anybody know if I can write an iso image to DVD instead of CD for an ubuntu install?
[10:07] <fyrestrtr> jeandelfrigo: is it a dvd image or a cd image?
[10:08] <letters_9> is alien in dapper ? apparently need it to convert an rpm
[10:08] <fyrestrtr> letters_9: for what program?
[10:08] <ticki> jeandelfrigo: you just burn it. as long as it fits your will be fine
[10:08] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: ok... I'm lookin at the file.. but is says it isn't there
[10:08] <letters_9> erm drivers for a softmodem
[10:08] <ompaul> letters_9, alien is not suggested - it could cause a lot of problems
[10:08] <jeandelfrigo> ah good question it's actually the imge from the kubuntu.org site
[10:08] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: lol
[10:08] <jeandelfrigo> i'll check
[10:08] <ompaul> !modem > letters_9
[10:08] <ompaul> letters_9, have a look at that link from ubotu
[10:08] <letters_9> i really need the internet to make ubuntu useful
[10:08] <micahcowan> josh_, are you making a stock kernel from tarball (say, from kernel.org), or are you building from the source package for ubuntu? I can only really support the latter.
[10:08] <fyrestrtr> Use nautilus, expand it (right click, extract to here) then just copy it to ~/wine-src
[10:09] <fyrestrtr> then come back to the terminal.
[10:09] <micahcowan> Have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[10:09] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: using ~/Desktop/win<tab> does nothing..
[10:09] <Pyromaniak> ok, thats easier
[10:09] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: is that were its downloaded?
[10:09] <letters_9> is there a way to stop the dam computer beeping when I type something wrong in terminal :)
[10:09] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: isn't that my Desktop? as in... its an icon beside the irc window? lol
[10:10] <^richiefrich> ticki   if not .. then u must  mkisofs
[10:10] <jeandelfrigo> Yep fyrestrtr and they only talk about CD
[10:10] <ticki> ^richiefrich: ok.. working on it. i'll let you know how it goes
[10:10] <^richiefrich> ok
[10:11] <jeandelfrigo> problem is the file is 713MB and so I need a 800MB CD
[10:11] <letters_9> it said there was no make command, even sudo make, as I recall, hmm
[10:11] <jeandelfrigo> but the freaking stores in the area only sell 700MB cds
[10:11] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: crap... hit the close button... did you say something?
[10:11] <jeandelfrigo> I said :
[10:12] <jeandelfrigo> Yep fyrestrtr and they only talk about CD
[10:12] <jeandelfrigo> but the freaking stores in the area only sell 700MB cds
[10:12] <fyrestrtr> jeandelfrigo: that's what you need.
[10:12] <fyrestrtr> jeandelfrigo: for the ubuntu iso
[10:12] <jeandelfrigo> Iand I need a 800MB CD for the 713MB iso file
[10:13] <jeandelfrigo> yeah I kinda tought so problem is finding a cd like that my stock is all 700MB
[10:13] <Shinzetsu> I try to delete something and it says: "access to /home/davin/.local/share/Trash/files/<name of folder I want to delete>" denied
[10:13] <jeandelfrigo> I guess i'll need to go searh the surrounding stores again
[10:13] <fyrestrtr> jeandelfrigo: I have never had a problem burning it on a 700 mb iso.
[10:14] <Madpilot> jeandelfrigo, I don't think there is any such thing as an '800Mb' CD - 650 or 700 is standard
[10:14] <Shinzetsu> do I have to chown my trash bin?
[10:14] <fyrestrtr> Shinzetsu: sudo rm -r ~/.local/share/Trash/files/<name of folder>
[10:14] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: now what?
[10:14] <jeandelfrigo> my previous one i used xubuntu and that went great on the 700MB version
[10:14] <Madpilot> jeandelfrigo, which ISO do you have? They should all fit on a 700Mb CD...
[10:14] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: done? you copied it to ~/wine-src ?
[10:14] <jeandelfrigo> but the file for Kubuntu is 713MB
[10:14] <Shinzetsu> fyrestartr: I try to delete it from /home/davin/Games\ but it says it cant access the trash bin
[10:15] <Madpilot> jeandelfrigo, really? That sounds wrong...
[10:15] <jeandelfrigo> Never mind I can install the standard ubuntu and then add de KDE packages after
[10:15] <garrett_> Glad to see fyrestrtr is still at it. =)
[10:15] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: inside that folder now yes... inside a subfolder with the revision number.. you want me to move that data into the other folder?
[10:15] <ompaul> !away > garrett|mobile
[10:15] <fyrestrtr> its a thursday ( a weekend where I live )
[10:15] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: okay go back to the terminal.
[10:15] <Pyromaniak> fyr ok?
[10:15] <jeandelfrigo> yeh now it's not a big deal i just wanted to test the version a little but not from the live disk i got with a magazine
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: then cd ~/wine-src
[10:16] <ompaul> garrett|mobile, we don't want you changing your nick and spamming like that thanks ;-) if you must use the silent /away
[10:16] <Shinzetsu> this is just weird
[10:16] <jeandelfrigo> Anyway thanks for the help fyresstrtr
[10:16] <Shinzetsu> it doesnt exist in the trash bin though it says it denied access
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: now type ls -- you should only see one directory, and it should say wine-0.something
[10:16] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: that is correct
[10:17] <ticki> ^richiefrich: i cannot write in the mounted file
[10:17] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: cd wine-<tab> then ./configure
[10:17] <frogzoo> jeandelfrigo: have you tried burning this 713meg file to a 700meg cd?
[10:17] <Shinzetsu> iso's are bigger
[10:17] <Shinzetsu> than the real size
[10:17] <fyrestrtr> jeandelfrigo: are you downloading this on Windows?
[10:18] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: error.... no suitable lex found... please install a "flex" package
[10:18] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: sudo apt-get install flex bison
[10:18] <Shinzetsu> jeandelfrigo: it can be 713mb but when you burn it itll be under 700mb
[10:18] <ciscosurfer> `paul: still having trouble?
[10:18] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: might have missed some things lol
[10:18] <jeandelfrigo> frogzoo: nope, can try it but in the magazine they explicitly say use a 800MB otherwise it won't work. But I can try it's only a CD
[10:18] <ticki> ^richiefrich: mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/cdimage/extras': Read-only file system
[10:19] <garrett|mobile> ompaul, This nick is not an away message.
[10:19] <^richiefrich> ticki how did u mount it
[10:19] <fyrestrtr> jeandelfrigo: 800MB or 80 minute?
[10:19] <letters_9> ubotu that link points me to linmodems.org, which points me to motorola.com which goes back to my original issue, there are only .rpm drivers :(
[10:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about that link points me to linmodems.org, which points me to motorola.com which goes back to my original issue, there are only .rpm drivers :( - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:19] <jeandelfrigo> Okay guys i'll try it
[10:19] <printk> ticki: are you root or using sudo?
[10:19] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: no problem... installing 4 packages now
[10:19] <ticki> ^richiefrich: using: sudo mount -o rw,loop myfile.iso /media/cdimage
[10:19] <^richiefrich> printk he mounted an iso
[10:19] <nubious> I need help
[10:19] <jeandelfrigo> nope 800 they say 80 mins = 700 MB.
[10:19] <letters_9> lol really is a bot
[10:19] <nubious> my xgl session crashed
[10:19] <ticki> ^richiefrich: and i am running "sudo mkdir"
[10:19] <nubious> and now I dont have a window manager to work with
[10:19] <printk> ^richiefrich: ohhh he's trying to create a dir on a mounted iso, i see...
[10:20] <^richiefrich> ticki i thought u would have a problem
[10:20] <fyrestrtr> jeandelfrigo: wow that's new to me, didn't know there was such a thing as a 800 MB CD
[10:20] <nubious> how do I restart the ctrl-alt-f7 session?
[10:20] <ticki> printk: using sudo
[10:20] <jeandelfrigo> i'll try burning it guys see what it does
[10:20] <^richiefrich> printk the way he's mounting it it should write
[10:20] <fyrestrtr> nubious: ctrl+alt+backspace
[10:20] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: wow.. lots of yes's... couple of no's... keeps on going... lol
[10:20] <nubious> k
[10:20] <nubious> lemme try that
[10:20] <jeandelfrigo> Well the guys in the store said the same thing yesterday
[10:20] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: it should tell you at the end if things were successful or not.
[10:20] <nubious> omg
[10:20] <nubious> it worked
[10:20] <nubious> it was that easy
[10:20] <^richiefrich> ticki umount it
[10:20] <nubious> hah
[10:20] <nubious> thanks man
[10:21] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: I know... just LOTS of scrolling.. lol
[10:21] <ciscosurfer>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[10:21] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: yeah, its cool :) makes you feel like you did something lol
[10:21] <^richiefrich> ticki  what is the permissions on /media/cdimage
[10:21] <ticki> it mounted it fine. but i odn't have write access to any file
[10:21] <jeandelfrigo> I personly also haven't seen 800 MB CDs, only 74 min (625MB) and 80min (700MB)
[10:21] <ciscosurfer> MadPilot: why isn't my prev command working...
[10:21] <^richiefrich> ticki i know what the permissions
[10:21] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr:  so.. while I wait.. mind telling me what is wrong with the other version that synaptic use?
[10:21] <^richiefrich> ticki  ls -la  /media/cdimage
[10:21] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: or... why not just use cedega for all this trouble? lol
[10:21] <^richiefrich> do u have write access therE ?
[10:21] <Madpilot> ciscosurfer, what previous command was that?
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: no idea, but this is a surefire way to get it going right.
[10:22] <ticki> ^richiefrich: dr-xr-xr-x 14 root root     4096 2006-05-31 06:59 cdimage
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: cedega is $5 a month
[10:22] <^richiefrich> yes u do
[10:22] <^richiefrich> : \
[10:22] <ciscosurfer> Madpilot: hi, sorry to bother...I tried to set unfiltered on but i don't think it took
[10:22] <Shinzetsu> is there any diff between "rm -r <path>" and rm <path> -R" ?
[10:22] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: ubunto has a guide for compile the free version by hand =P
[10:22] <|thunder> im looking for a tool similair to wget, except it allows variables like [a-z]  and [1,2,3,6-9] . does anyone know of anything like this ?
[10:22] <ticki> ^richiefrich: nope.  i don't..
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> ciscosurfer: you added a space.
[10:22] <ticki> i see an "-"
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: yes, I know of it.
[10:22] <Madpilot> ciscosurfer, sorry, I've no idea what you're talking about...
[10:22] <ticki> not a "w"
[10:22] <jeandelfrigo> thanks for the help, see you
[10:23] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: ok.. my typing is going down hill now... lol anyways... it was successfully, says to run another command
[10:23] <ciscosurfer> fyrestrtr: thank you
[10:23] <^richiefrich> ticki ok then  chmod 777 /media/cdimage
[10:23] <nubious> k next question - would anyone know why when I open gaim it logs me in then disappears?
[10:23] <^richiefrich> then remount the iso
[10:23] <^richiefrich> ticki ^^
[10:23] <beesandflowers> thanks folks, i was able to get pptp running. good bye
[10:23] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: okay now type make depend && make
[10:23] <|thunder> nubious, check you systrtay
[10:23] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: then watch the screen :)
[10:23] <ciscosurfer> Madpilot: nm, thanx anyway, fyrestrtr helped me out
[10:24] <ticki> i cannot chmod it because i don't have write access
[10:24] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: no thanks...lol
[10:24] <Alicante> culi pelosi
[10:24] <ticki> ^richiefrich: ^^
[10:24] <jeffery> anyone come across documentation for LVM based installation ?
[10:24] <^richiefrich> no chmod the dir
[10:24] <nubious> |thunder: it's not there
[10:24] <^richiefrich> ticki ok then  chmod 777 /media/cdimage
[10:24] <nubious> |thunder: when I alt tab or anything
[10:24] <^richiefrich> when it's not mounted
[10:24] <^richiefrich> ticki ^
[10:25] <cyphase> the repo is down
[10:25] <|thunder> it may have crashed, try, 'ps -A | grep -i aim
[10:25] <ticki> ^richiefrich: chmod: changing permissions of `/media/cdimage': Read-only file system
[10:25] <ticki> oh.. ok.
[10:25] <ticki> ^richiefrich:  so.. unmount it an chmod it. and not the other way around
[10:25] <^richiefrich> ticki  did u umount  the iso
[10:26] <^richiefrich> ticki  umount then chmod then mount
[10:26] <nubious> |thunder : any other ideas?
[10:26] <|thunder> nope
[10:27] <ticki> ^richiefrich: shit.. it does't work
[10:27] <jn> hey in gnome time prefs there is no option for 12 hour, how do i fix this
[10:28] <^richiefrich> ticki what u mean chmod then mount
[10:28] <ticki> yes
[10:28] <firepol> is anybody of you to install vmware player as follows: sudo apt-get install vmware-player ? i get it installed, the configuration script runs but i get this error: http://en.pastebin.ca/124874
[10:28] <ticki> ^richiefrich: before mounting i have 777 to cdimage
[10:29] <frogzoo> jn: clock type
[10:29] <^richiefrich> ticki yes try that
[10:29] <ticki> ^richiefrich: then i do:  sudo mount -o rw,loop ubuntu-6.06-dvd-i386.iso /media/cdimage
[10:29] <azimuth> Does anybody know how to properly configure evdev driver?
[10:29] <^richiefrich> ticki yes try that
[10:29] <jn> frogzoo: all there is: 24 hour, unix, internet
[10:29] <Ademan> where can I find out info about sources.list ?   (like more detailed information)
[10:29] <azimuth> i got XServer error while booting
[10:29] <ticki> and i only have: dr-xr-xr-x
[10:29] <ticki> ^richiefrich: ^
[10:30] <frogzoo> jn: right click clock -> preferences
[10:30] <jn> right im there
[10:30] <^richiefrich> then it's changing it on u on mounting the iso
[10:30] <fyrestrtr> oh wow -- ban hand luggage?
[10:30] <jn> and under clocktime there is 24 hour, UNIX, and INTERNET.. thats it
[10:30] <jn> i want 12 hour
[10:30] <jn> AM/PM
[10:31] <ticki> ^richiefrich: any idea on how to sort that out?
[10:31] <ompaul> ticki, can you keep it calm pleas - we like it to be family friendly thanks
[10:31] <ticki> ompaul: what do you mean? ???
[10:31] <azimuth> Does anybody know how to properly configure evdev driver?
[10:31] <ompaul> jn, right click and choose preferences
[10:31] <jn> um I AM THERE
[10:31] <ompaul> ticki, 26 minutes past the hour :-)
[10:32] <jn> what now?
[10:32] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: its still chuggin
[10:32] <ompaul> jn, and the top drop down box is 24/12 hours ...
[10:32] <jn> it is not there, like i said, there is only 24, unix and internet
[10:32] <ticki> ompaul: i don't get what you mean.
[10:32] <ompaul> !langauge
[10:32] <ubotu> I know nothing about langauge - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:32] <ompaul> !language
[10:33] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:33] <ych> where can i see what my current ip is? like ipconfig on win
[10:33] <theBishop> after using OSX most of the week, i think i Ubuntu+Compiz is actually more attractive
[10:33] <ticki> what did i say? Shoot?
[10:33] <ompaul> yes  --
[10:33] <ticki> bah.. that was like half an hour ago.
[10:33] <ompaul> it was 4 minutes ago
[10:33] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: aye, it takes a while.
[10:34] <fyrestrtr> ych: ifconfig
[10:34] <NineTeen67Comet> theBishop: Did you use Quinn's theme pack? I had it but it's not in my sources.list anymore, and have been looking for it ever since ..
[10:34] <Ademan> how can I add both a gtkmenubar and another widget to a gtkwindow? gtk complains when i do that, do i need to give the window a gtkVBox and then put the menubar and other stuff inside that?
[10:34] <ompaul> jn, well I hate to say it but that drop down box works here I used it to adjust the clock
[10:34] <ticki> 6 minutes..
[10:35] <ticki> anyway.. i will try not to say it again.
[10:35] <ych> thanx fyrestrtr
[10:35] <lhds> when i try to modprobe my tv card i get insmod /lib/modules/2.6.17.7/kernel/drivers/media/video/saa7134/saa7134.ko sox -c 2 -s -w -r 32000 -t ossdsp /dev/dsp1 -t ossdsp /dev/dsp tuner=54 card=65 i2c_scan=1 oss=1 video_nr=0 dsp_nr=1 mixer_nr=3  where  are those arguments saved?
[10:35] <ticki> ^richiefrich: ok.. going back. what can i do.. ?
[10:35] <^richiefrich> ticki idk  man now..  u might need.. to rsync -av the iso  to the hdd
[10:35] <^richiefrich> then u can edit it
[10:36] <jn> what is the package name for that time-admin thing.. ill remove/reinstall cause something is up
[10:36] <ticki> what would that do?
[10:36] <theBishop> NineTeen67Comet, it comes and goes, i think the themes are mostly garbage though
[10:37] <theBishop> NineTeen67Comet, i like ubuntu's default menubar better
[10:37] <seshomaru> hello - need help in configuring network on a new Xubuntu install
[10:37] <fyrestrtr> lhds: I think /etc/modprobe.d/options
[10:37] <NineTeen67Comet> theBishop: I had the OSX looking one, then I borked my box, and miss it .
[10:37] <garrett|mass> So, slight problem.
[10:37] <theBishop> NineTeen67Comet, lol
[10:37] <lhds> no its not there
[10:37] <|thunder> hayden, curl was the advanced version of wget i was looking for. fyi
[10:37] <garrett|mass> Go to install fglrx on the ole' desktop, get a DRI error when I do fglrxinfo.
[10:37] <fyrestrtr> curl is not an advanced version of wget
[10:37] <theBishop> NineTeen67Comet, after using compiz for a while, even osx starts to feel a bit bland
[10:37] <fyrestrtr> curl is a library for fetching urls lol
[10:38] <|thunder> theBishop, i agree
[10:38] <|thunder> i just need hot corners
[10:38] <theBishop> NineTeen67Comet, but apple's art design is more refined
[10:38] <NineTeen67Comet> Yeah, I've got xgl running dual monitors (I've got three, but it's just not working on all three) and it's been awesome .. only a couple times has it hickuped ..
[10:38] <ticki> ^richiefrich: i see what you mean.. transfer all the files to another location.. but then, i will have to build the iso.. too complicate..
[10:38] <|thunder> for expose and show desktop
[10:38] <seshomaru> can anyone help me configure network on new Xubuntu?
[10:38] <ticki> ^richiefrich: thanks a lot.. we tried it at least.. i will do it whenever i have some spare time..
[10:39] <fyrestrtr> |thunder: you can set that up easily, I remember I had it going like that (although I quickly turned it off because I kept triggering it by mistake)
[10:39] <ompaul> jn just looked in its help: This option is not shown if your session is not set to use the 12 hour clock.
[10:39] <ticki> ^richiefrich: thanks a lot man, you have been of great help.
[10:39] <ticki> have a good night...
[10:39] <ompaul> jn, deps on your session settings
[10:39] <|thunder> fyrestrtr, where is it ?
[10:39] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: how long you think this will take? lol
[10:40] <|thunder> fyrestrtr, i looked all through the prefs
[10:40] <fyrestrtr> it takes a good while
[10:40] <fyrestrtr> on my system, it took around 30 minutes
[10:40] <|thunder> im in gnome
[10:40] <^richiefrich> ticki np
[10:40] <fyrestrtr> |thunder: gconf-editor
[10:40] <carthik> Where can I find a list of compatible video cards (ati)?
[10:40] <azcazandco> which is the best way to do virtualisation on linux? vmware player or vmware workstation?
[10:40] <ompaul> Pyromaniak, not a ban but a mute? %username? ;-)
[10:40] <azcazandco> I need to do testing on multiple environments
[10:40] <Blinker> carthik: are you looking for a specific one?
[10:40] <|thunder> fyrestrtr, thx., ill have a look and see if I can find it in there
[10:41] <timalot> azcazandco: dont use vmware it aint free
[10:41] <seshomaru> never mind - sorted it out myslef....
[10:41] <seshomaru> bye bye
[10:41] <jn> ah ok ty
[10:41] <seshomaru> all
[10:41] <azcazandco> timalot: so what do you suggest?
[10:41] <fyrestrtr> |thunder: if you have any questions about that, ask in #xgl -- they know their stuff.
[10:41] <vlt> Hello. After updating cupsys last night I cannot print at least pdf files to an smb connected HP Laserjet 1200 anymore. Is this a known issue?
[10:41] <riddick> hey all, ubuntu for the win
[10:41] <riddick> hhehe
[10:41] <|thunder> fyrestrtr, thx
[10:41] <theBishop> has anyone used the most recent Suse?
[10:41] <riddick> yes
[10:41] <timalot> azcazandco: what do want to run inside the virtual pc?
[10:41] <fyrestrtr> I did
[10:41] <ompaul> vlt, to find out the answer to that check out launchpad.net the bug recorder
[10:41] <jn> hey does anyone have time to look at this webpage for bestcrypt software and tell me if there is anyway to install bc without comipling ubuntu..
[10:41] <carthik> Blinker, a cheap ati chipset video card (<$75) that works with no issue with the open source driver (works out of the box with Ubuntu installed)
[10:41] <ompaul> !offtopic
[10:41] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:41] <azcazandco> i want to run xp pro and also win2000
[10:42] <theBishop> what do you think of it?  compared to ubuntu?
[10:42] <karl> is there any way to check the history of files I have opened in vim? I was working on a file, and now I can't seem to find it
[10:42] <jn> it talks about compiling src which i got... but i didnt want to actually do it if it meant i would not be able to get security updates etc..
[10:42] <riddick> I think suse is a better for networking
[10:42] <jn> im not sure if compiling src would affect binary
[10:42] <Blinker> carthik: look up the price on an x300
[10:42] <ompaul> theBishop, we might be biased - please talk in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:42] <riddick> but thats why I have joined this channel
[10:42] <Blinker> carthik: or m300 if its a lappy
[10:42] <riddick> I was hoping to hear someone tell me otherwise
[10:42] <azcazandco> I also need to be able to fileshare with ubuntu
[10:42] <DooMRunneR> hi
[10:43] <timalot> azcazandco: i dont know about how good vmware... is i am just saying one reason it is bad is it not free software... i use wine if i want to run windows apps
[10:43] <carthik> Blinker, X300SE is what I had my eyes on - I will take this as a good omen :)
[10:43] <riddick> because I scrapped my suse because the ati and audigy drivers sucked
[10:43] <azcazandco> wine keeps dying
[10:43] <Blinker> i set up my M300 (lappy ver.) with 0 problems, though I did have to manually configure acceleration
[10:43] <timalot> qemu will make a virtual pc...
[10:43] <karl> m300's are cool
[10:43] <karl> i have an evo n400c though
[10:43] <karl> are nicer
[10:43] <azcazandco> i had photoshop 6 running in the office crosser yesterday but then it stopped working
[10:43] <riddick> what I want to know is, can someone tell me of a good networking package for ubuntu?
[10:43] <karl> have a built in battery
[10:43] <karl> costs just as much
[10:43] <fyrestrtr> riddick: all linux distros use the same drivers, so if something didn't work in suse, it probably won't work in ubuntu.
[10:44] <karl> or less
[10:44] <Pyromaniak> ompaul: what?
[10:44] <timalot> azcazandco: why dont u just use the gimp?
[10:44] <riddick> nope it worked like a dream in ubuntu
[10:44] <azcazandco> I am having issues with timescales and deadlines
[10:44] <riddick> the mesa drivers where heaps easier to replace
[10:44] <Blinker> riddick: networking package? you mean like a local device manager?
[10:44] <azcazandco> and learning curve
[10:44] <fyrestrtr> lol I can tell when azureus is finished download, from the large spike in my disk usage in system monitor.
[10:44] <riddick> yep
[10:44] <ompaul> Pyromaniak, you wanted a %, one % that I know is the "ban" called mute that allows a user not send to the channel ;-)
[10:45] <riddick> I really hate iptables
[10:45] <Blinker> riddick: I hear NetworkManager is nice
[10:45] <Blinker> its in dapper
[10:45] <riddick> mmm
[10:45] <Pyromaniak> ompaul: no.. % for my install.. lol
[10:45] <riddick> I got that
[10:45] <azcazandco> in the hr i used phtotoshop yesterday I got loads done
[10:45] <fyrestrtr> ompaul: he was talking about a progress bar for console operations
[10:45] <riddick> but the config file sucks
[10:45] <Blinker> ahh
[10:45] <riddick> why can't I expect a gui one
[10:45] <lhds>  when i try to modprobe my tv card i get insmod /lib/modules/2.6.17.7/kernel/drivers/media/video/saa7134/saa7134.ko sox -c 2 -s -w -r 32000 -t ossdsp /dev/dsp1 -t ossdsp /dev/dsp tuner=54 card=65 i2c_scan=1 oss=1 video_nr=0 dsp_nr=1 mixer_nr=3  where  are those arguments saved? not in modprobe.d options anyway
[10:45] <ompaul> fyrestrtr, and I was being funny ;-)
[10:45] <timalot> azcazandco: ok well i am just preaching but.... in the long term it's better to use free software
[10:45] <fyrestrtr> oh right
[10:45] <fyrestrtr> ignore me lol
[10:45] <azcazandco> I hear you
[10:45] <Blinker> riddick: I take it the manager bundled with ubuntu/gnome isn't working for you?
[10:46] <riddick> nope
[10:46] <azcazandco> I just have deadlines to meet just now and am killing myself timewise
[10:46] <riddick> it just doesn't open the ports I want
[10:46] <ompaul> riddick, firewalls are seriously non trivial, you can use firestarter but granular control is where it is at
[10:46] <azcazandco> i really wanna ditch windows completely but that takes learning time
[10:46] <riddick> infact I started on ubuntu, but changed to suse for that reason alone
[10:46] <timalot> azcazandco: an alternative to vmware is qemu its kqemu kernel module... qemu is free but the kqemu kernel module is not
[10:46] <ryan_naruto> why cant i see my network in linux but i can see my linux computers on windows xp
[10:46] <timalot> ans its...
[10:47] <timalot> and its
[10:47] <riddick> ompaul: I agree, can't I find a happy medium
[10:47] <azcazandco> i heard quemu runs win2000 slower
[10:47] <erryko> hey, i got another problem. i have to start sysv-rc but, if i write it, it says that the command is not found. and if i try to get it with apt-get it says that it is already at the latest version :S
[10:47] <azcazandco> one of the fears I have is going through big tutorials doing stuff i dont understand and breaking things I know even less about
[10:47] <Krhis> Do my cron jobs execute while I'm logged out?
[10:47] <ompaul> ryan_naruto, TCP != wins - I think you have a windows network there
[10:47] <ompaul> !ntfs
[10:47] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[10:47] <azcazandco> I already managed to bust my opengl
[10:48] <NineTeen67Comet> anyone in here had luck on running dual vid cards (plain pci and agp) and triple monitors? I can get dual monitors, either both on my agp card, or one on each card but not all three.
[10:48] <ompaul> azcazandco, don't go changing all sorts of things - work with what you have and add on - one feature at a time
[10:49] <azcazandco> ompaul: I hear that too
[10:49] <ubuntu> hi
[10:49] <azcazandco> I tried to get xgl working
[10:49] <timalot> azcazandco:what happend?
[10:49] <azcazandco> photoshop and native ie 5, 5.5, 6 & 7 are what I miss completely
[10:50] <riddick> my other question since I get the feeling no one is gonna have the perfect answer for a gui firewall, has anyone ran bf2 server on ubuntu
[10:50] <timalot> azcazandco: u miss ie? ... i dont know about that
[10:50] <NineTeen67Comet> riddick: I used to use Firestarter as a gui firewall ..
[10:50] <riddick> i was using that
[10:51] <riddick> but it never opened a port for me
[10:51] <NineTeen67Comet> riddick: didn't like it? I haven't used it in a few years ..
[10:51] <riddick> I'd do a port scan---- and nothing
[10:51] <azcazandco> timalot: for testing only
[10:51] <ikonia> n
[10:52] <riddick> still the standard ones open
[10:52] <riddick> painful!!!
[10:52] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: hope you aren't leaving soon... its still going.. lol
[10:52] <azcazandco> timalot: alan@alan-desktop:~$ fglrxinfo fglrxinfo: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:52] <ikonia> could someone please give a brief description on the different bettn the ubuntu-6.06-$version.iso and the ubutntu-6.06-alternate-$version.iso ?
[10:52] <fyrestrtr> I'll be here for another hour, then I'm going home for lunch, then I'll be back on as 'burhan'.
[10:52] <azcazandco> that is what happened after following this tutorial http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Xgl-Compiz-Dapper
[10:53] <park_canada> hi. my wireless network doesn't work. i've been told to d/l network-manager and i did (with me wired modem). how should i countinue ?
[10:53] <timalot> azcazandco: ok u have misplaced your LibGL.so.1 ... its easy todo
[10:53] <fyrestrtr> ikonia: the first one, is a desktop livecd. It contains the graphical installer. The otherone (alternate) has the non-graphical installer, allows you many customization options (such as a server or oem install, etc). It also works on many more machines since it doesn't have a complete GUI. I recommend the alternate cd.
[10:53] <azcazandco> timalot: thanks for taking me on btw, I have so many questions all the time I think I do folks head in!
[10:53] <ikonia> thank you
[10:54] <azcazandco> timalot: how do I get it back?
[10:54] <TheGateKeeper> ikonia: first one is a livecd uses a GUI installer, the other uses the old text installer, and I think may contain packages also
[10:54] <fyrestrtr> park_canada: run it? :)
[10:54] <timalot> azcazandco: ok ill take a look at that link so i can refresh my memory on how i did it :)
[10:54] <azcazandco> thanks
[10:54] <fyrestrtr> azcazandco: use the howto at compiz.net
[10:54] <park_canada> fyrestrtr: im not sure how :|
[10:54] <azcazandco> I think it is the lines at the bottom that shafted me
[10:54] <fyrestrtr> azcazandco: and ask xgl questions in #ubuntu-xgl
[10:55] <park_canada> i clicked the nm_somthing file and run it also via the teerminal..what should happen ?
[10:55] <fyrestrtr> park_canada: hit alt+f2, type gnome-network-manager and hit enter. It should work.
[10:55] <azcazandco> fyrestrtr: will that work even if I have borked stuff
[10:55] <Ademan> is there a way to make the glade interface designer spit out straight gtk code? (without the use of libglade) i don't care what language, atm i'd prefer python, but c works too
[10:55] <vlt> ompaul: thanks.
[10:55] <azcazandco> fyrestrtr: okay, I will do
[10:55] <fyrestrtr> Ademan: this is the ubuntu support channel, might try asking in a more appropriate place.
[10:56] <ryan_naruto> i need help i've installed samba for file sharing but i cant seem to make it work. on my windows machine it can see the linux but it cant browse it it gives an error it is not accesible. on my linux machine i cant see either my linux or windows machine. where would i start to troubleshoot.. help please
[10:56] <ompaul> vlt, yw
[10:56] <Landrus> hi all
[10:57] <shawnr_> can anyone help me with this browser problem, alot of menus are displaying correctly: http://s114.photobucket.com/albums/n242/shawnrgr/Screenshot-1.png
[10:57] <k31th> how do i install kernel ssource for ubuntu ?
[10:57] <fyrestrtr> !samba > ryan_naruto
[10:57] <k31th> 2.6 kernel ?
[10:57] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: what have you done to my poor system.. lol
[10:57] <Landrus> i wanted to say thank you for all developers of ubuntu. I know linux systems for some time now, and ubuntu is really really great!
[10:58] <fyrestrtr> k31th: any particular reason you want the source?
[10:58] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: making it work, for one.
[10:58] <k31th> fyrestrtr: to compile some thing
[10:58] <fyrestrtr> k31th: what?
[10:58] <k31th> fyrestrtr: or do i just need the kernel
[10:58] <ych> umm
[10:58] <ych> more noob questions...
[10:58] <azcazandco> timalot: did you see the bit I meant?
[10:59] <park_canada> fyrestrtr: trying
[10:59] <fyrestrtr> !kernel > k31th
[10:59] <k31th> fyrestrtr: im getting this error
[10:59] <k31th> cypr.c:54:49: error: /usr/src/linux/include/linux/config.h: No s                                                  uch file or directory
[10:59] <timalot> azcazandco: are u in #ubuntu-xgl? we better stick to the rules :) ... plus it's quieter
[10:59] <ych> how do i open a dir like /home/me/.gaim/ in window manager?
[10:59] <k31th> so i fig i need the source fyrestrtr ?
[10:59] <fyrestrtr> k31th: what are you building?
[10:59] <k31th> fyrestrtr: its just some ldap passwd chang thing (web front end)
[10:59] <ych> i can cd there in terminal, but i dont see it if i open my home foder
[10:59] <fyrestrtr> ych: hit enter and type /home/me/.gaim/
[11:00] <park_canada> fyrestrtr: it can't find the application
[11:00] <fyrestrtr> k31th: have you checked that its not available?
[11:00] <k31th> Yes
[11:00] <park_canada> fyrestrtr: im sure it was d/l. 100%
[11:00] <fyrestrtr> park_canada: did you read the wifi docs?
[11:00] <fyrestrtr> k31th: what's it called?
[11:00] <park_canada> fyrestrtr: not all
[11:00] <fyrestrtr> !wifi > park_canada
[11:00] <park_canada> fyrestrtr: the connection is configured but not working
[11:00] <ych> thanx
[11:01] <k31th> http://freshmeat.net/projects/cypr/ fyrestrtr
[11:01] <fyrestrtr> k31th: give me a second
[11:02] <fyrestrtr> k31th: download the source sudo apt-get install linux-source-`uname -r`
[11:03] <Krhis> Do my cron jobs execute while I'm logged out?
[11:03] <fyrestrtr> k31th: then make the symlink in /usr/src/linux to point to the correct sources. See !kernel for more info
[11:03] <Tomcat_> Krhis: Yes.
[11:03] <Krhis> Thanks.
[11:03] <k31th> fyrestrtr: doesnt work if i use uname -r
[11:03] <k31th> E: Couldn't find package linux-source-2.6.15-20-686
[11:04] <fyrestrtr> k31th: what kernel do you run?
[11:04] <k31th> fyrestrtr: ^^^
[11:04] <fyrestrtr> sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.15
[11:04] <k31th> !kernel
[11:04] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[11:05] <k31th> fyrestrtr: thats done it dl now :D
[11:05] <k31th> thanks
[11:05] <fyrestrtr> don't forget the symlink
[11:06] <k31th> fyrestrtr: i dont seen any info about the symlink at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[11:08] <fyrestrtr> k31th: sudo ln -sf /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.15 /usr/src/linux <-- that should do it.
[11:08] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: is there Any way to tell how far along this has gone?
[11:08] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: nope
[11:09] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: well, for someone that has done it before, yes (by reading what its compiling) but for other people, nope.
[11:10] <Blinker> in terms of resource requirements, would ubuntu be comparible to xp or so? I'm installing on a 400MHz machine and i'm curious how long i'll be waiting between commands, hehe
[11:10] <k31th> fyrestrtr: installing the linux-sources has only dumped a tar file in /usr/src/linuc i presume i need to untar it
[11:11] <fyrestrtr> k31th: hrmm, it should have untarred it, but yeah, untar it, then make the link
[11:11] <Joshier> I want to run ubuntu in windows native, apparently cygwin does this? I looked at their site but looks very hard. I'm using ubuntu now with vmware but it's slow.
[11:11] <fyrestrtr> Blinker: depends. If you don't install a gui interface, then it should be very snappy.
[11:11] <Blinker> fyrestrtr: still learning linux, so i'll be installing gui for now
[11:11] <k31th> fyrestrtr: wacky ! im untaring it now
[11:11] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: Do you think Cedega is worth it? I've read the free one is crippled... and without paying for it I Can't even seen the supported apps list (used to be able to)
[11:12] <fyrestrtr> Blinker: well, you could install some lightweight wm like xfce4
[11:12] <panos> join #Xgl
[11:12] <panos> well hello
[11:12] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: I don't know to be honest. Never used it, always used wine.
[11:12] <panos> I need help and assistance
[11:12] <Blinker> fyrestrtr: ahh, good to know what the difference was/is =p thanks, I'll check it out
[11:12] <panos> could you help me with compiz and xgl ?
[11:12] <k31th> cedega does work and its not very much money pr month if i didnt have an ati card id run it
[11:12] <fyrestrtr> panos: #ubuntu-xgl
[11:13] <fyrestrtr> Blinker: first, setup a minimal install from the alternate cd, then install xubuntu-desktop.
[11:13] <panos> ok man
[11:13] <fyrestrtr> Blinker: you'll find its quicker than xp -- how much ram on your machine?
[11:14] <Blinker> 160-192, i forget which
[11:14] <vlt> Hello. Last night I did the recommended cupsys update with aptitude. Now I cannot print anymore (the printer prints "@PJL" lines only). When I try to change the used driver (e. g. to ps) an error message appears (KDE printing dialog). What can I do?
[11:14] <fyrestrtr> ehh
[11:15] <Blinker> but i have a standalone drive i'll be using for swap only
[11:15] <ych> whats a good program to use to burn an audio cd from mp3s?
[11:16] <fyrestrtr> ych: k3b
[11:16] <Madpilot> ych, in Ubuntu? Serpentine
[11:16] <surface-> i couldn't find libpthread and libpthread-dev
[11:16] <surface-> pls help, is there any repo i missing?
[11:16] <Blinker> ooh, heres a good question too...I have a 250G HDD that was giving me trouble on win, wouldn't recognize mor ethan ~128G. does linux's filesystem handle drives that large?
[11:17] <LeaChim> Blinker, it does
[11:17] <Blinker> yum
[11:17] <Blinker> k, thx
[11:17] <ych> thanx again fyrestrtr
[11:17] <LeaChim> /dev/sdc1             230G  137G   82G  63% /media/usbdisk
[11:17] <ych> and madpilot
[11:17] <LeaChim> :D
[11:18] <fyrestrtr> you have a 250GB usb disk?!
[11:18] <fyrestrtr> oh, an external usb drive.
[11:18] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr:  tappin my foot here... lol
[11:18] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: wondering if it will ever finish =P
[11:19] <LeaChim> fyrestrtr, indeed :P usb hard drive ;)
[11:20] <mnk> hi all - how do i upgrade pls?
[11:20] <mnk> !upgrade
[11:20] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[11:21] <mnk> so how would i upgrade to 6.0.1?
[11:21] <agorf> hello. any links to point me on how to setup 6.06 using the text installer?
[11:21] <mnk> i mean 6.06.1
[11:21] <mnk> wow, this is the quietest i have EVER seen this channel
[11:23] <dmitri> hello, i have 2 same NICs which are shown in lspci. Only eth0 is up, and ifconfig eth1 up says: no such device. How do i bring up eth1?
[11:24] <Tomcat_> dmitri: Do "ifconfig" and see how the second device is named.
[11:24] <Tomcat_> dmitri: ifconfig -a
[11:25] <ompaul> mnk you just make sure you have -updates enabled in your sources.list file
[11:25] <dmitri> Tomcat: eth2! silly me
[11:25] <park_canada> fyrestrtr:  i configured a wireless connection as described in the manual. doesn't work...
[11:25] <bnD> ompaul, * mnk has quit (Client Quit)
[11:25] <micahcowan> mnk: if you have the "dapper-updates" repositories enabled, I think you're already on "6.06.1"... it's more of a install from scratch thing, I think...
[11:25] <shawnr_> can anyone help me with this browser problem, alot of menus are displaying correctly: http://s114.photobucket.com/albums/n242/shawnrgr/Screenshot-1.png
[11:25] <ompaul> bnD, ahh :-)
[11:25] <bnD> :P
[11:26] <dmitri> Tomcat: and how do i make sure these two NICs are loaded at boot?
[11:26] <Tomcat_> dmitri: Well they are obviously loaded, as they both show up in ifconfig... you mean configured?
[11:26] <Tomcat_> dmitri: Just configure them in /etc/network/interfaces or in Gnome... that's all to do. :o
[11:27] <Pyromaniak> Can anyone recommend another IM client rather then Gaim?
[11:27] <Tomcat_> Pyromaniak: centericq is supposed to be good.
[11:27] <dmitri> Tomcat: yes. so that i dont need to bring them up everytime
[11:27] <Pyromaniak> Tomcat_: is that JUST icq? I need all the regular protocols supported
[11:27] <Tomcat_> Pyromaniak: supports the ICQ2000, Yahoo!, AIM, MSN, IRC and Jabber protocols
[11:27] <skwashd> hi all
[11:28] <skwashd> i am playing with a g3 lombard ppc with dapper on it
[11:28] <Pyromaniak> ooo... jabber.. I could just cheat and use that..
[11:28] <Tomcat_> :-)
[11:28] <skwashd> sometimes it all goes pear shaped ... so can i do something like ctrl-alt-del on the built in keyboard ?
[11:29] <mneptok> ctl-alt-backspace?
[11:30] <skwashd> mneptok: no .. tried that
[11:30] <park_canada> can any1 help me setup my wireless connection? it's not working after i configured it.
[11:30] <skwashd> bs on the mac is marked as "delete" ... so i thought i might have got lucky with that ... but i didn't :(
[11:30] <park_canada> how can i find the ESSID ?
[11:30] <Pyromaniak> Tomcat_: unfortunatly I want something with gui =P
[11:30] <Tomcat_> Pyromaniak: But it has one! text-one though :D
[11:31] <Pyromaniak> lol
[11:32] <mneptok> Pyromaniak: network-manager-gnome
[11:34] <dmitri> my 2nd NIC -eth2 is up, but not activated according to firestarter. How do I activate it and save these settings for boot as well?
[11:34] <Pyromaniak> mneptok: what?
[11:36] <mneptok> Pyromaniak: network-manager-gnome
[11:39] <park_canada> can any1 help me setup my wireless connection? it's not working after i configured it.
[11:40] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: hey, its done
[11:40] <mneptok> park_canada: define "configured it"
[11:41] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: oh okay
[11:42] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: now sudo make install
[11:42] <shawnr_> fyrestrtr, can you help me with this browser problem, alot of menus aren't displaying correctly: http://s114.photobucket.com/albums/n242/shawnrgr/Screenshot-1.png
[11:42] <shawnr_> when you have a second
[11:42] <QMario> How do I extract a page from a PDF in Linux?
[11:43] <fyrestrtr> shawnr_: use another browser
[11:43] <park_canada> mneptok: i would first like to know how to find the ESSID=network name
[11:43] <shawnr_> fyrestrtr, they all do that
[11:43] <mneptok> shawnr_: CNN's stylesheet is messed up. it's not just you.
[11:43] <shawnr_> its not just cnn
[11:44] <frogzoo> QMario: print the page to a pdf printer :)
[11:44] <shawnr_> actuallyt
[11:44] <park_canada> mneptok: it currently called main. i thoght i might wrong
[11:44] <mneptok> park_canada: what exactly have you done thus far?
[11:44] <shawnr_> mneptok, actually the style sheet isn't messed up. swiftfox displays it just fine
[11:44] <shawnr_> but no other browser will
[11:44] <mneptok> shawnr_: it's hardly surprising that multiple sites have crappy CSS implementations :)
[11:45] <QMario> Frogzoo, okay. Thank you.
[11:45] <cbx33> Hi everyone
[11:45] <zpiff> Is there any program like microsoft office visio for linux?
[11:46] <QMario> Frogzoo, what is the command line function for printing to file?
[11:46] <cbx33> anyone good with screencasting and video encoding here?
[11:46] <ompaul> zpiff, thing called dia
[11:46] <zpiff> ompaul: thanks :)
[11:46] <cbx33> I have an mpeg and an mp3 and I need to encode it upinto a video that windows media player can play properly
[11:46] <frogzoo> zpiff: kivio, dia, oo drawing
[11:46] <ompaul> QMario, lp filename
[11:47] <QMario> Ompaul, thank you!!! :)
[11:47] <cbx33> I had partial success, with one method
[11:47] <cbx33> but the video stopped halfway through
[11:47] <cbx33> audio continued
[11:47] <cbx33> any ideas?
[11:47] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: done
[11:48] <QMario> Ompaul, no such file or directory.
[11:48] <park_canada> mneptok: i opened network settings, chosed enable this connection for wireless, chose main as the network name, keytype hexadecimal, WEP key empty, and configuration DHCP. i also d/l network manager but i can't run it.
[11:48] <frogzoo> QMario: you want to install cups-pdf
[11:48] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: that's it :)
[11:48] <mneptok> park_canada: what error do you get when running network manager?
[11:48] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: now run winecfg
[11:48] <jn-> how do i change font in bars (gnome)
[11:48] <jn-> color too
[11:49] <park_canada> mneptok: can't find program ...
[11:49] <park_canada> mneptok: i tried from terminal and ALT+F2 "gnome-network-manager"
[11:49] <jn-> by bars i mean panel
[11:50] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: crashed when I click the sound tab
[11:50] <frogzoo> QMario: you want to install cups-pdf - & then 'sudo +s /usr/lib/cups/backend/cups-pdf'
[11:50] <mneptok> park_canada: it's nm-applet
[11:51] <park_canada> ???
[11:51] <Pyromaniak> fyr and it is still doing the same thing as before... not working at all.. lol
[11:51] <park_canada> oh
[11:51] <mneptok> park_canada: log out and back in and the network manager should appear
[11:51] <park_canada> trying
[11:51] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: what did it say on the console?
[11:52] <Pyromaniak> I didn't use console.. lol
[11:52] <Pyromaniak> just a sec
[11:52] <micahcowan> frogzoo, why should setuid be necessary for cups-pdf?
[11:52] <QMario> Frogzoo, no such package.
[11:52] <micahcowan> QMario, try "apt-get update" first?
[11:52] <frogzoo> QMario: as cups-pdf ? you on dapper ?
[11:52] <park_canada> mneptok: i logged oput and tried nm-applet,gnome-network-manager and network-manager from ALT+F2. not working
[11:52] <QMario> No.
[11:53] <QMario> I am not on Dapper.
[11:53] <[Wiebel] > hmz
[11:53] <[Wiebel] > Setting up gnump3d (2.9.8-2) ...
[11:53] <[Wiebel] > dpkg: error processing gnump3d (--configure):
[11:53] <[Wiebel] >  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 128
[11:53] <[Wiebel] > Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:53] <[Wiebel] >  gnump3d
[11:53] <mneptok> park_canada: did you edit /etc/network/interfaces at all?
[11:53] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: ALSA lib seq_hw.c:456:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory
[11:53] <frogzoo> QMario: ah, do you have universe enabled? pretty sure it's available on breezy as well
[11:54] <mneptok> cups-pdf is available on Breezy, for sure
[11:54] <park_canada> no
[11:54] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: hrmm.....
[11:54] <frogzoo> QMario: am I supposed to guess which release your're running?
[11:54] <krimzon> !nvidia
[11:54] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:54] <Pyromaniak> also... if it matters.. it has the same settings I had previously
[11:54] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: yeah it reads them.
[11:54] <QMario> Frogzoo, no.
[11:55] <fyrestrtr> You could try and delete your wine settings and start from scratch.
[11:55] <QMario> Frogzoo, I am using SUSE 10.1.
[11:55] <fyrestrtr> QMario: this is the ubuntu support channel, not suse support.
[11:55] <jensens> how do i unpack mac binhex (*.hqx) files in ubuntu?
[11:55] <frogzoo> QMario: please don't waist my time
[11:55] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: reads what? didn't I remove that?
[11:55] <QMario> Frogzoo and fyrestrtr sorry!!! :(
[11:56] <micahcowan> QMario, the pdf cups driver is still what you want, but you should take it to #suse
[11:56] <QMario> Micahcowan, okay.
[11:56] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: no, your wine configuration doesn't get removed. Anyway, launch your came from console, see what it says.
[11:56] <QMario> Thank you frogzoo, fyrestrtr, and micahcowan!!! :)
[11:56] <superphly> does anyone know how to get dual head + widescreen support in ubuntu?
[11:57] <xxx_justsomenick> is there a way to install dapper from within a running system, without booting off the cd. Dapper Cds refuse to boot on my system, but running Edgy no problem right now
[11:58] <micahcowan> downgrading from edgy to dapper is not really recommended...
[11:58] <mneptok> xxx_justsomenick: so install Edgy, edit the apt sources, and apt-get dist upgrade
[11:58] <ccooke> xxx_justsomenick: yes. It requires a bit of trickery and knowledge of the boot process, though
[11:58] <frogzoo> cheers QMario
[11:58] <fyrestrtr> superphly: using twinview its easy :) I don't know about xinerama
[11:58] <ccooke> xxx_justsomenick: The overview, though, is this:
[11:58] <fyrestrtr> !xinerama > superphly
[11:58] <xxx_justsomenick> i dont want edgy. but it is the only cd that would boot or install on this system.
[11:58] <ccooke> xxx_justsomenick: 1) Make a directory. Use debootstrap to install a dapper base system into it.
[11:58] <micahcowan> the usual recommendation is to reinstall. You can edit the sources, as has been suggested, but prepare to deal with dependency conflicts and such
[11:58] <Pyromaniak> fyr can you tell me how? I've just been using a .sh that came with the download of the game
[11:58] <superphly> well, i'm a lonnnng time unix user, just wondering what you guys thought
[11:59] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: its normally wine /path/to/your/game.exe
[11:59] <ccooke> xxx_justsomenick: 2) mount proc inside the dapper directory, then chroot in and install/configure it as the CD would
[11:59] <park_canada> mneptok: no, i haven't....
[11:59] <superphly> fyrestrtr: apt-get doesn't have twinview
[11:59] <ccooke> xxx_justsomenick: (That means: Configure locales, timezone, apt-get install ubuntu-desktop etc)
[11:59] <fyrestrtr> superphly: that's because its specific to nvidia.
[11:59] <xxx_justsomenick> so basically wait until edgy really comes out in a few months. that is beyond my skills at this point
[12:00] <superphly> ATI here
[12:00] <fyrestrtr> superphly: its a feature of nvidia drivers.
[12:00] <fyrestrtr> superphly: with ATI, I believe the control panel can set that up.
[12:00] <ccooke> xxx_justsomenick: Install sash in Edgy. (the stand-alone shell). Make a note of its absolute filename and path
[12:00] <superphly> i'm not seeing a control panel
[12:00] <fyrestrtr> superphly: but you have to use the drivers from ati.com -- I don't think the other drivers come with the control panel.
[12:00] <ccooke> xxx_justsomenick: ah. Sorry, missed that.
[12:00] <timalot> !pastebin
[12:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:01] <superphly> right, where would the control panel be?
[12:01] <thefish> superphly: twinview is for nvidia only
[12:01] <modern`> hi
[12:01] <Pntkl> hey
[12:01] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: it didn't say anything
[12:01] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: just tossed me back to prompt after maybe 2 seconds
[12:01] <xxx_justsomenick> would love to try, but honest enough to recognize its way beyond me at this point.
[12:02] <nalpha> how to admin@admin-desktop:/$ su - root Password:su: Authentication failure
[12:02] <nalpha> why yah??
[12:02] <modern`> don't know
[12:02] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: wine server is running, and so is the game.exe
[12:03] <seshomaru> hi , anybody knows how to make desktop short cuts in Xubuntu?
[12:03] <ccooke> xxx_justsomenick: hmm. Why does the CD fail?
[12:03] <ompaul> seshomaru, right click and start from there
[12:03] <acojlo> how to clean rc6.d with unneeded scripts?
[12:03] <Pntkl> investigating
[12:04] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: what game is this again?
[12:05] <ompaul> acojlo, they need to be there to turn off services usually as you reboot the box can be handy to close the databases correctly
[12:05] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: continuum... it worked almost perfect before that other guy in the #wine forum broke it :[
[12:05] <[Wiebel] > how can I see what the exact error dpkg gives while installing?
[12:06] <[Wiebel] > dpkg: error processing gnump3d (--configure):
[12:06] <[Wiebel] >  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 128
[12:06] <ghmsr1> ola guapo
[12:06] <seshomaru> ompaul, thanks , im right clicking but cant find how to amke a short cut, i went thru "settings" but nothing..
[12:07] <ompaul> seshomaru, - create launcher -
[12:07] <jing> hi
[12:08] <ompaul> seshomaru, or drag a copy of the icon from the menu to the desktop or panel
[12:09] <seshomaru> ompaul, im in XFCE - I cant seem to drag or 'create launcher' should I be able to?
[12:09] <CheetahMk2> !ati
[12:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:09] <krimzon> i can boot both windows and linux today
[12:10] <ompaul> seshomaru, well you are in #ubuntu ask in #xubuntu :)
[12:11] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: any idea's?
[12:11] <ompaul> seshomaru, that is why my instruction does not seem to work for you - it is aimed at people using GNOME as this is #ubuntu :)
[12:11] <seshomaru> ompaul ,sorry ,didn't realise there is a Xubuntu channel...
[12:12] <seshomaru> thanks anyway....
[12:13] <sc0tt> hey folks :)
[12:14] <shawnr_> gconf-editor/apps/panel/global/panel_minimized_size  -  isn't working. im trying to get panel auto-hide to 'hide' more.
[12:15] <Grizzly> Hello?
[12:15] <usound> hi, what are some of the reasons why my screen refresh rate might be set lower than it can. I know I have used it for a long time on 70Hz but Ubuntu is using it at 60Hz. I changed xorg.conf to make sure the VertRefresh included 70. It does.
[12:15] <jing> hi, wan to ask a question, i have a Desktop PC and a notebook, in Desktop PC i have 2 Netscard and cable, i just want to Notebook connect internet via Desktop, how can i configure it. Now the connection between desktop and notebook is ok. But Notebook still has no Internet connection, how can i do with it?
[12:15] <acojlo> some expert for S3 resume?
[12:17] <usound> jing: so you have a working network connection, but not an internet connection? What Os is your desktop?
[12:17] <jing> Desktop is windows XP
[12:17] <vlt> Sorry to ask again, and even more sorry if it has been answered before (my XChat buffer is set too short): Last night I did the recommended cupsys update with aptitude. Now I cannot print anymore (the printer prints "@PJL" lines only). When I try to change the used driver (e. g. to ps) an error message appears (KDE printing dialog). What can I do?
[12:17] <Keddie> what program can I use to create an ISO from files on my HD?
[12:18] <vlt> Keddie: mkisofs
[12:18] <user_> hi all!
[12:18] <usound> jing: That should be easy, I have done it before. Do you have ICS setup? And then you need to make sure that your laptop is using DHCP.
[12:18] <hawkaloogie> Keddie, nautilus can do it as well
[12:18] <user_> I want to install ubuntu
[12:18] <user_> but I don't know if I should download the server or desktop version
[12:19] <user_> Is there a xwindows wth the server installation?
[12:19] <usound> user_: not completely sure about ubuntu server, but generally they don't have X.
[12:19] <Madpilot> user_, no - get the Desktop ISO
[12:19] <gnomefreak> user_: no server = text only unless you install gui later
[12:20] <user_> oke is that the cd with live cd support?
[12:20] <usound> user_, yes it is with live cd support
[12:20] <user_> the desktop i mean?
[12:20] <user_> I've got the desktop version, but the installation stops at "mounting root filesystem
[12:20] <jing> tank usound!
[12:20] <user_> Why is that?
[12:20] <Keddie> hawkaloogie, how do I do it in nautilus?
[12:20] <jing> i will try it later
[12:21] <mokopil1> Hi, I started the ubuntu lts live cd on my notebook and everything worked, however halfway through the instalation my touchpad stopped working, restart wont help. but a usb mouse works
[12:21] <hawkaloogie> Keddie, Go > CD/DVD Creator
[12:21] <user_> usound: When I insert the live cd, i've got an option: "Install or run live cd" .. how can I select only "install'?
[12:22] <usound> user_, Ive had that problem before
[12:22] <hawkaloogie> Keddie, when you choose "Write to disc" you can choose an image to write to
[12:22] <dsas> user_: You need to run it to install it don't you?
[12:22] <user_> usound: oh oke, could you solve it?
[12:22] <gnomefreak> user_: you cant you need to get the alternative cd for that
[12:22] <Madpilot> user_, you install from inside the LiveCD - there's an Install icon on the desktop
[12:22] <dsas> user_: You run the cd then click on the desktop icon.
[12:22] <usound> user_, I would have prefered text only installation once. You install it in the live cd. Do you have at least 256mb ram. I've had problems getting in the live cd with less.
[12:22] <user_> Madpilot: hmm but it stops at mounting root filesystem
[12:23] <user_> usound: is there a way to use the live cd with text mode installation?
[12:23] <Madpilot> user_, then there's something wrong with your CD - is this one you burned yourself, or a pressed one?
[12:23] <user_> so that it boots with a tesxt mode
[12:23] <user_> Madpilot: when I first install ubuntu 5 and than run that live cd, everything works perfect, so its not the cd i think
[12:23] <usound> user_, as far as I know, you would need to download a seperate ISO
[12:24] <vlt> user_: Can you check the md5sum of your cd/iso?
[12:24] <gnomefreak> user_: get the alternative cd to install in text mode
[12:24] <user_> usound: do you know which iso?
[12:24] <john1234562> Hello I am trying to run windows on a ubuntu as I still need windows and would like to be able to simply click from one to the other instead of rebooting, and as its pointless running linux as a guest OS on windows as that defates the purpose of making it secure, I need to install VMWare workstation 5, I have downloaded the source but dont know what to do with it and converted an rpm to deb with alien but it gives me failed to install package vmw
[12:24] <john1234562> areworkstation_5.5.1-19176_i386.deb, Do you know where I can find a real .deb?
[12:24] <Keddie> hawkaloogie, trying it now, thanks.
[12:24] <user_> gnomefreak: do you know where I can find that?
[12:24] <gnomefreak> the problems with live cd installer have been fixed in 6.06.1
[12:24] <JKoder> Hello is it safe to do : apt-get install kubuntu desktop ?
[12:24] <Keddie> vlt, is mkisofs command line only?
[12:24] <JKoder> i am controlling my pc remotly and i whant to be sure if what i am trying to do is safe
[12:25] <vlt> Keddie: Yes, cmd line.
[12:25] <user_> gnomefreak: is that the "alternate install cd" at the bottom of http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/
[12:25] <gnomefreak> im looking i had it
[12:25] <user_> ok thanx gnomefreak
[12:25] <john1234562> anyone able to help me with vmware workstation .deb?
[12:26] <Keddie> vlt, I'l read up on the man pages, thx
[12:26] <usound> http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/6.06/
[12:26] <usound> does the alterate cd work as that, gnomefreak?
[12:27] <JKoder> 
[12:27] <gnomefreak> user_: yes that is the right link
[12:27] <[Wiebel] > I realy need some help here, I can't get gnump3d to install. dpkg keeps exiting exit status 128
[12:27] <[Wiebel] > and there is no clear error with WHAT goes wrong
[12:28] <user_> thanx gnomefreak downloading it now!
[12:28] <Keddie> john1234562, I ran across a program called parallels that may work for you. Google it
[12:28] <usound> have fun user_
[12:29] <john1234562> keddie thanks, but surly there is a .deb around, I am willing to pay for the licencse thats no issue
[12:29] <john1234562> its downloading and installing it that is the problem keddie
[12:29] <JKoder> \q
[12:30] <mokopil1> I started the ubuntu lts live cd on my notebook and everything worked, however halfway through the instalation my touchpad stopped working, restart wont help. but a usb mouse works. Can anybody help?
[12:31] <usound> mokopill: you said your usb mouse works...
[12:31] <mokopil1> yes
[12:32] <usound> mokopill: so what is holding you up from installing?
[12:32] <_Inc_> Anyone know of some trick to make xubuntu's xfce4 work with non-rectangular X displays? (wmaker/gnome works fine; this is a xfce4 problem)
[12:32] <harmental> hey...i know it is completely out of topic....but...does anybody know a matlab / simulink channel??
[12:33] <mokopil1> I compleated the instalation my problem is that i now have a laptop without a touchpad
[12:33] <_Inc_> *wave*
[12:33] <usound> mokopill, gotcha; it might be xorg. Sounds like it would be.
[12:34] <mokopil1> any idea how to fix it?
[12:35] <itwm27> test
[12:35] <ripper> can someone help me, i just upgraded from breezy to dapper, using apt-get and now my system is broken, i can still login, but cant get x to start, and when it boots, it fails to load restricted drivers
[12:36] <usound> mokopill... getting there
[12:36] <mokopil1> thanks for the help
[12:36] <ripper> i dont see how upgrading could break the system...
[12:37] <Samuli^> hehe, it definately can.
[12:37] <ripper> heh
[12:37] <ripper> how can i fix this?
[12:37] <mokopil1> ill add to that, the update doesent really work, i had to burn myslf an iso and reinstall
[12:37] <ripper> using apt-get ?
[12:37] <mokopil1> it wrecked my ubuntu too
[12:37] <IAskew> ripper, i had exactly the same happen to me, i ended up doing a clean install
[12:38] <ripper> that sucks
[12:38] <ripper> i cant get a 6.06 iso that works
[12:38] <ripper> so i have to use 5.10
[12:38] <Samuli^> ripper for one check out your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the driver "foo" to vesa or what you think is appropriate.
[12:38] <mokopil1> it does, but hey ever tryed to do hat on windows?
[12:38] <Flannel> ripper: did you, over the course of using breezy, remove any large meta packages? like ubuntu-desktop?
[12:38] <ripper> yeah
[12:38] <mokopil1> ^that
[12:38] <ripper> apt-get did
[12:38] <Samuli^> yea, that might work too.
[12:38] <Flannel> ripper: right.  You need to re-add ubuntu-desktop before upgrading
[12:39] <Samuli^> ripper, try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:40] <ripper> kk
[12:42] <usound> mokopill: it's hard to know exactly where your problem might lie. I think it might be xorg, cause I have had X disable my mouse and enable the usb and the other way around. Are you comfortable working in /etc?
[12:42] <ripper> still when loading restriced drivers at boot it fails
[12:42] <ripper> whY?
[12:42] <ripper> google cant answer it
[12:43] <ripper> ;P
[12:43] <cafuego> Boot in non-splash screen mode, get the actual errors.
[12:43] <mokopil1> yes
[12:44] <mokopil1> u mean editing text files
[12:44] <cafuego> On the boot menu, hit 'e'. Then hit 'e' on the kernel line. Remove "quiet splash" from that line. Then hit 'b' for  averbose bootup and keep your eyes open.
[12:44] <usound> I mean working with system configuration files, mokopill
[12:44] <mokopil1> yes
[12:44] <cafuego> ripper: That ^^ was for you.
[12:45] <ripper> ok
[12:45] <ripper> couldnt i try to find a way to boot another kernel?
[12:45] <park_canada> is the graphic lib for C is already installed when installing eclipse or build-essential ?
[12:46] <park_canada> !build-essential
[12:46] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:46] <cafuego> ripper: Do you have another kernel installed?
[12:46] <park_canada> any1 ?
[12:46] <ripper> it did install another kernel
[12:46] <usound> mokopill: try looking at your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and see if you see anything out of the ordinary.
[12:46] <cafuego> Then it ought to be in the boot menu.
[12:46] <cavediver> Hi, is it bad to install syslog-ng insted of syslogd ?
[12:47] <visik7> oh my wishes has been grant
[12:47] <visik7> I hope 6.06.1 has updates
[12:47] <cafuego> visik7: it does, at least 200MB worth.
[12:47] <darkhunter^> oh my...
[12:47] <PsyBard> !java
[12:47] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[12:48] <thefish> cavediver: afair, ng does some fancier things
[12:48] <mokopil1> id love to tell u if i would know whats out of the ordinary
[12:48] <thefish> cavediver: and they are compatable
[12:48] <visik7> cafuego: yes I see
[12:48] <cavediver> thefish: yes for instance it can log iptables messages separately.
[12:48] <mokopil1> i never seen that file
[12:48] <cavediver> thefish: but it wants to remove ubuntu-minimal ? What's that
[12:48] <usound> mokopill: if you want you could paste the file http://cl1p.net/somewherexorg/
[12:48] <cavediver> also klogd and syslogd ?
[12:49] <cavediver> Would logrotate be affected in any way ?
[12:49] <park_canada> is the graphic lib for C is already installed when installing eclipse or build-essential ?
[12:49] <ripper> ubuntu is a pain in the ass on an hp with 128mb of ram
[12:49] <thefish> cavediver: as long as you keep the logs in the same format, it should be fine
[12:50] <ripper> it seems to work fine on all the other systems i use it on
[12:50] <mokopil1> page saved
[12:51] <usound> ok
[12:51] <GnarusLeo> Hi .. I have a question concerning Amarok and a iPod Nano ...I have covers for all of my albums in amarok, and when I am transfeering from amarok to my iPod, I can even edit the filetag of the mp3 on the ipod and it shows a cover picture ... but on the ipod nothing appears .. what could this be?
[12:51] <cavediver> 128MB ram is not a whole lot. Ram is quite cheap.
[12:52] <LMJ_Work> Hello the chan
[12:52] <usound> mokopill: to me you could use an extra section and see if that works
[12:52] <LMJ_Work> i'm running Dapper Drake 6.06 and i saw 6.06.1 just came out, where i can learn how to upgrade my version ?
[12:52] <mokopil1> and that would be...
[12:53] <tuxub> LMJ_Work, you dont need to upgrade
[12:53] <ripper> anyone here know how i can fix this error with mysql on my openbsd server?
[12:53] <park_canada> !graphic
[12:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about graphic - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:53] <ripper>  #2002 - The server is not responding (or the local MySQL server's socket is not correctly configured)
[12:53] <tuxub> LMJ_Work, just sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ... its auto
[12:53] <demor> semctl(*SemID,1,SETVAL,(*shm)->humanos);
[12:53] <thefish> ripper: maybe you are looking in the wrong place for the socket?
[12:53] <park_canada>  is the graphic lib for C is already installed when installing eclipse or build-essential ?
[12:53] <thefish> ripper: you are connecting from localhost?
[12:54] <tuxub> anyone knows how to copy files using rsync and keep the ownership of files?
[12:54] <usound> mokopill: this is a section I got in my xorg.conf. I don't know if it works, but you don't seem to have it. Would you know how to put that in your xorg.conf file? http://cl1p.net/section/
[12:54] <thefish> tuxtux: use -a
[12:54] <tuxub> it doesn't work with -a :(
[12:55] <LMJ_Work> after an update & apt-get dist-upgrade  :  0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. ?
[12:55] <thefish> you have the same user on the destination?
[12:55] <tuxub> the files on the server get all the same ownership: nobody nogroup
[12:55] <thefish> it will look for the same username
[12:55] <thefish> otherwise it will just use the same uid
[12:55] <tuxub> im running the rsync daemon as root
[12:55] <tuxub> yes, the same user exists
[12:56] <mokopil1> the sections dont have to be in any particular order do they?
[12:56] <tuxub> anyways, that should not be a problem (the file sohould get the uid)
[12:56] <thefish> tuxtub, run it over ssh - i do rsync -avzx /source user@host:/destination/
[12:56] <usound> mokopill: not that I know
[12:56] <tuxub> the problem is that i will need to do the copy next week (about 70GB)
[12:56] <tuxub> and I want to copy only the changed files
[12:56] <CarNagE__> When running ./configure for a program, it tells me "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!"
[12:56] <mokopil1> k ill try it
[12:57] <dmitri> my 2nd NIC - eth2 shows up in ifocnfig, by firestarter says its not ready. How do i enable it?
[12:57] <CarNagE__> Which package do I have to install to get the X includes?
[12:57] <Flannel> CarNagE__: you can use apt-get to get the build-deps for a package
[12:57] <tuxub> dmitri, do /etc/init.d/networking restart of ifup eth2
[12:57] <CarNagE__> CarNagE__: The program I want to compile isn't available via apt
[12:58] <thefish> tuxtub thats what rsync does
[12:58] <tuxub> dmitri, as root, or use sudo
[12:58] <CarNagE__> Flannel: The program I want to compile isn't available via apt
[12:58] <ripper> would anyone care to tell smacky how to boot ubuntu using a different kernel?
[12:58] <tuxub> thefish, sorry, didn't get you
[12:58] <ripper> cause i think that is the problem
[12:58] <acojlo> do I need sysklogd & klogd
[12:58] <ripper> if he can get it to boot from another kernel i'll ssh in, and change the boot order in grub.conf
[12:58] <tuxtux> CarNagE__: use -a
[12:58] <CarNagE__> tuxtux: ??
[12:58] <dmitri> tuxub: fail
[12:59] <thefish> tuxtub, you said you wanted to only copy changes, thats what rsync does
[12:59] <thefish> you can use rsync over ssh
[12:59] <tuxub> and this will do that?  ssh - i do rsync -avzx /source user@host:/destination
[12:59] <ripper> smacky is actually the one with the ubuntu problem, my ubuntu install works fsckin great
[12:59] <thefish> no rsync -avzx source user@host:/destination uses ssh
[12:59] <tuxub> ok
[12:59] <samu2> ive been wondering what happened to the screensaver settings program in the system menu...
[12:59] <CarNagE__> tuxtux: -a as param for which call?
[01:00] <tuxub> but can i use just ssh with some flag that only copies the changes?
[01:00] <crazy_penguin> Good day all!
[01:00] <ripper> tuxtub what are you trying to do?
[01:00] <samu2> before dapper i used to be able to change the settings for them somehow, but now it doesnt seem to work anymore
[01:00] <usound> mokopill: you will have to restart X for settings to take effect
[01:00] <tuxub> rsync -avz teste alunos@193.136.238.2::backup/
[01:00] <tuxub> I am transfering 70GB of user data from one server to a new one
[01:00] <mokopil1> k
[01:00] <thefish> tuxtub, you are using rsync which copies changes only, and the format that i showed you, does it over ssh
[01:00] <tuxub> but I will need to copy the new/changed files in a few days
[01:00] <thefish> you get the best of both
[01:01] <mcphail> tuxub: rsync is the tool for that. No doubt at all.
[01:01] <thefish> rsync -avzx source user@host:/destination (this tells rsync to do it over ssh, only changes copied)
[01:01] <thefish> try it
[01:01] <thefish> try it HARD
[01:01] <panos> Guys I am trying to fix my Xgl and on #Xgl channel, no one answers me...
[01:01] <easytiger> how the feck do i sign up for http://ubuntuforums.org/ i can't find the fecking link anyplace
[01:01] <tuxub> thefish, is this what you say: ssh - i do rsync -avzx /source user@host:/destination ???
[01:01] <cavediver> I prefer rdiff-backup over rsync
[01:01] <panos> could you please help me ?
[01:01] <Flannel> panos: try #ubuntu-xgl
[01:02] <cavediver> which is rdiff+version history
[01:02] <thefish> tuxtub, can you see what i just typed?
[01:02] <tuxub> cavediver, does it keep ownership?
[01:02] <panos> ok Flannel
[01:02] <cavediver> tuxub: yes
[01:02] <ych> i can play the files on my windows network with totem, but not with "good" players like VLC or amarok... anyone know the reason for this?
[01:02] <tuxub> thefish, i saw it but it doesnt keep the ownership!
[01:02] <cavediver> tuxub: you can use it to backup / if you want to.
[01:02] <tuxub> i will try it
[01:02] <ripper> ych > what kind of errors are you getting?
[01:02] <dmitri> my 2nd NIC - eth2 does not start up for networking, but looks fine in ifconfig. can someone help out please
[01:02] <ych> it just doesn't start at all
[01:03] <thefish> tuxtub, from man rsync: -a, --archive               archive mode; same as -rlptgoD (no -H); -o, --owner                 preserve owner (root only)
[01:03] <acojlo> my boot process breaks usplash just before "setting tty" and I see text console with "starting gdm" when it goes to gui
[01:03] <ych> like itll open the file but not play
[01:03] <cavediver> tuxub: it's great. Then you can restore files from yesterday or a week ago or whatever.
[01:03] <cavediver> As it keeps inkremental kopies of changes
[01:03] <ych> but if i copy the file to my machine and play it locally, itll work with vlc
[01:03] <ripper> sounds like to me you need the guide im trying to find for ya :P
[01:03] <tuxub> thefish, I know that, i saw the man, but it isnt working :(
[01:03] <thefish> what user are you running rsync from on the source and destination?
[01:04] <tuxub> source: root, dest: root
[01:04] <ych> cool thanks
[01:04] <tuxub> files on dest get nobody:nogroup
[01:04] <ripper> try this guide
[01:04] <ripper>  #2002 - The server is not responding (or the local MySQL server's socket is not correctly configured)
[01:04] <ripper> shit
[01:04] <ripper> hang on
[01:04] <thefish> strange, do the uids match? NOT usernames
[01:04] <ych> hehe
[01:04] <ripper> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-a57167a3ce442dc52d9b05e46a14503330d4e970
[01:04] <ripper> there ya go
[01:04] <ych> umm
[01:04] <ripper> im trying to fix that error on my openbsd server
[01:04] <ripper> if that dont work , hang on
[01:04] <roy_lp> cau u tell me hoq to install the graphic library so i caN USE IT WITH c ?
[01:05] <roy_lp> sorry for the caps
[01:05] <neutrinomass> roy_lp: What graphic library ?
[01:05] <Netcad>  anyone know how to lock a thread in pthread?
[01:05] <ripper> or look around here @ ych http://www.google.com/search?q=streaming+media+with+vlc+%2B+ubuntu&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial
[01:06] <ych> thanks ripper
[01:06] <roy_lp> neutrinomass: the C graphic liberary -OFF file maybe ?..
[01:06] <ych> well, i can play the mp3s, but just not on a server
[01:06] <ych> when i copy them to my machine they play perfectly
[01:06] <tuxub> the uids match
[01:06] <neutrinomass> roy_lp: There are various libraries floating around, depending on what you want to do. This is more of a coding question though, than an #ubuntu question ...
[01:06] <roy_lp> neutrinomass: how can i search thorugh the libs aviliable? espically graphic
[01:06] <panos> panos@panos-linuxmachine:~$ cgwd --replace & [1]  7523
[01:06] <panos> panos@panos-linuxmachine:~$
[01:06] <panos> ** (cgwd:7523): WARNING **: Choose same size glow images for active and inactive windows.
[01:06] <panos> Inactive glow image is scaled for now.
[01:06] <ych> what id like to do is use the media library of amarok
[01:07] <panos> If anyone could help me....
[01:07] <roy_lp> neutrinomass: ok
[01:07] <ych> and have all the files on my fileserver in it
[01:07] <acojlo> do I need 3 log daemons ?
[01:07] <tuxub> cavediver, rdiff-backup examples, can you give me one to test this?
[01:07] <ych> well, i found something on goole
[01:07] <neutrinomass> panos: Please don't paste in the channel, use pastebin ...
[01:07] <ych> google
[01:07] <freebuntu> Good Morning
[01:07] <ripper> google == god
[01:07] <ych> it says it has something to do with the fact that the programs use different librarys
[01:07] <freebuntu> Panos? What?
[01:08] <roy_lp> neutrinomass: can u tell me how to search ?
[01:08] <ych> so now i know the problem, but whats the soluion....
[01:08] <roy_lp> in the apt
[01:08] <petsei> hi:)
[01:08] <cavediver> tuxub: rdiff-backup backup-folder destination-folder (or the other way around:)
[01:08] <smacky> this is the best optersystem i ever saw ..use it once and poof it is gone....right rip
[01:08] <freebuntu> Searching involves drilling down terms specifically, most people don't do that enough
[01:08] <tuxub> cavediver, just that :)  ? in the server? it uses ssh or what?
[01:08] <ripper> nah , mine works fine
[01:08] <ych> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=82285
[01:08] <ych> this is basically the problem
[01:08] <ripper> i dont know why the fuck yours b0rked on ya
[01:08] <freebuntu> what, ych?
[01:09] <ych> what he describes here
[01:09] <mokopil1> thanks usound ill try it out
[01:09] <cavediver> tuxub: no that's baclup on the local computer, you can use it over ssh aswell but if you want to test
[01:09] <ych> except i want to use amarok instead of beep
[01:09] <freebuntu> right click and open with
[01:09] <panos> freebuntu
[01:09] <freebuntu> yes
[01:09] <panos> I am truing to fix XGl
[01:09] <panos> and I get this
[01:09] <panos> panos@panos-linuxmachine:~$ cgwd --replace & [1]  7523
[01:09] <panos> panos@panos-linuxmachine:~$
[01:09] <panos> ** (cgwd:7523): WARNING **: Choose same size glow images for active and inactive windows.
[01:09] <panos> Inactive glow image is scaled for now.
[01:09] <eeos> hi there. I need some help in compiling alsa on dapper. anyone with experience in compiling kernel modules on dapper who can help?
[01:10] <ripper> trying enabling nfs, thats what that guide is saying
[01:10] <cavediver> tuxub: what do you want to do? Sync over the network ?
[01:10] <neutrinomass> panos: You shouldn't be pasting in the channel!
[01:10] <tuxub> yes
[01:10] <roy_lp> neutrinomass : i found a zip file of what i need. can u tell me where to o[y the files to ?
[01:10] <ych> isnt nfs serverside though?
[01:10] <neutrinomass> !pastebin > panos
[01:10] <ripper> apt-get broke smacky's ubuntu install
[01:10] <tuxub> yep, it works local and saves the ownership with rdiff-backup
[01:10] <freebuntu> do you need to compile it in, or have you followed the guides? I got alsamixer working fine after tweaking the conf file
[01:10] <tuxub> now on the network? what do I run on the server?
[01:10] <ripper> if i can get over to his place, i can make that shit work
[01:10] <panos> I followed the guides
[01:10] <ripper> but over ssh, and ssh timing out and acting all fucked up, heh its a bit impossible
[01:10] <neutrinomass> roy_lp: I don't think anybody will package the library in a .zip file. Try installing the library you want through synaptic ...
[01:11] <freebuntu> it was a thing for me to look at, neutrino, is that ok????
[01:11] <ych> nfs is a thing i'd need to install on the fileserver right? because the thing is, my fileserver is a windows machine
[01:11] <panos> !pastebin > panos@panos-linuxmachine:~$ cgwd --replace & [1]  7523
[01:11] <panos> panos@panos-linuxmachine:~$
[01:11] <panos> ** (cgwd:7523): WARNING **: Choose same size glow images for active and inactive windows.
[01:11] <panos> Inactive glow image is scaled for now.
[01:11] <freebuntu> well, how can you make the glow pkgs the same size, is that the ???
[01:11] <ych> im a fresh converter
[01:11] <ripper> im guessing that would be correct @ ych
[01:11] <panos> How can I use pastebin >
[01:11] <panos> ?
[01:12] <ripper> ych why are you running a windows server? thats just insanity
[01:12] <roy_lp> neutrinomass: its from my course so its good..
[01:12] <ych> because i only started using linux 1 week ago
[01:12] <ych> and its kinda a converted old rig
[01:12] <ripper> all my servers == openbsd + special hardening script + hairyeyeball
[01:12] <cavediver> tuxub, either you can use some fancy ssh with rdiff-backup or you can mount a sshfs and run as if it was locally.
[01:12] <smacky> how do i use ubuntu >?
[01:12] <neutrinomass> panos: Just visit the link ubotu gave you! Paste and give the URL to whomever requests it. Just don't keep spamming the channel.
[01:12] <ych> yeah, i wouldnt mind converting to a proper os
[01:12] <Flannel> smacky: just like you'd use any other OS.
[01:12] <roy_lp> neutrinomass: also couldnt find it
[01:12] <ych> which is why i started using linux on this machine
[01:13] <tuxub> cavediver, sshfs???
[01:13] <ripper> i've been using *nix for about 6 years now
[01:13] <ych> but at the moment the filesystems are keeping me from doing it
[01:13] <ripper> but yeah, get comfy with it
[01:13] <ych> cause i have bout a half a terabyte stored on NTFS
[01:13] <neutrinomass> roy_lp: Then maybe it is a windows library or something like that ?
[01:13] <ripper> back everything up to dvd.....
[01:13] <thefish> ych: you want to make a file server?
[01:14] <roxlu> hi all!
[01:14] <roxlu> is tar a package to extract .rar files?
[01:14] <freebuntu> this chann sucks anyway, I was on bbses back 20 years ago, just like this, scroll scroll,  isn't there a ubuntu chat gui that I could split off conversations onto diff windows without having to read the entire scroll of one window?
[01:14] <ripper> ych here ya go
[01:14] <ripper> http://www.google.com/search?q=nfs+%2B+windows&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial
[01:14] <thefish> ych: if you need stuff from a disk local to your new linux box, you can mount ntfs, and copy
[01:14] <freebuntu> THAT would be a golden program
[01:14] <thefish> ych: otherwise you can just copy if off the same as you would from a windows system
[01:15] <ripper> yeah but i wouldnt use ntfs support on ubuntu
[01:15] <ripper> or linux in general
[01:15] <roy_lp> neutrinomass: its linux
[01:15] <thefish> read only is fine
[01:15] <ripper> ych > better yet use this http://support.microsoft.com/kb/324055/en-us
[01:15] <roy_lp> neutrinomass: its called mesh_view
[01:15] <neutrinomass> roy_lp: Maybe it's the library code ?
[01:15] <ripper> its an official microshit guide
[01:15] <IAskew> rox
[01:15] <DBAlex> hi
[01:15] <smacky> rip do i really have to install that all over again ......my ssi check well be here befor this works
[01:15] <IAskew> roxlu, u need unrar
[01:15] <DBAlex> would there be a reason why ubuntu cant resize my hard disk?
[01:15] <roxlu> thanx!
[01:16] <ripper> smacky > no, ill fix it when i can get over there
[01:16] <ych> sry i was afk, back now
[01:16] <freebuntu> hey ripper has ANYONE got a safe ntfs=linux file mover yet? got a lot of win2k hard drives, sigh
[01:16] <IAskew> yx
[01:16] <ych> yeah i heard linux support of ntfs is kinda bad
[01:16] <ripper> hmmm
[01:16] <ripper> yeah its buggy
[01:16] <ych> and as a matter of fact i allready started burning to dvd
[01:16] <roy_lp> neutrinomass: what do u meN?
[01:16] <cavediver> tuxub: yes, sshfs is lite the neatest thing ever. You can mount remote directores using ssh insted of samba and nfs crap!
[01:16] <ych> got about 10 of em down
[01:16] <ripper> freebuntu there are a few ways to move it
[01:16] <thefish> ych: for write access, its bad, for read only its fine
[01:16] <krimzon> i saw a page for one that could use the actual windows dlls for ntfs
[01:16] <ych> but that leaves me with 90 more to go
[01:16] <DBAlex> Also Ubuntu Dapper Drake crashes on my machine... It crashes when starting the X Server, My machine is: AMD 64 3000, 512mb RAM, Radeon 9600se, 80GB hard drive
[01:16] <DBAlex> please help!
[01:16] <ripper> freebuntu, use sftp over ssh from the windows box [01:17] <neutrinomass> roy_lp: As in the code of the library, not the executable (you're doing a computer science course right? )
[01:17] <DBAlex> it doesnt even start even in safe graphics mode
[01:17] <DBAlex> IE: it doesnt even install
[01:17] <DBAlex> HELP!
[01:17] <freebuntu> SAFEST  it can be techy, I'll understand, but don't want to lose anything
[01:17] <tuxub> cavediver, :D that looks like heaven, i am checking it out
[01:17] <ych> i spose burning the files would be good anyway
[01:17] <ych> that way i have a safe copy
[01:17] <thefish> ych: what exactly do you want to do? copy files from windows to the new linux box?
[01:17] <DBAlex> PLEASE!! I have been an ubuntu user for ages :)
[01:17] <cavediver> tuxub: do so.
[01:17] <ripper> if thats what he wants to do, i know a trick
[01:17] <ych> no i want them to stay on the windows box, but make the windows box into a linux box
[01:17] <tuxub> cavediver, :) FATAL: Module fuse not found.
[01:17] <ych> so one computer here
[01:18] <ripper> ssh in from the windows box, and use scp, or get winscp and transfer them that way via ssh login
[01:18] <ripper> fuck dual booting
[01:18] <DBAlex> :/ No one wants to help? Thanks a lot
[01:18] <Flannel> DBAlex: Which version are you trying to install
[01:18] <Flannel> !language
[01:18] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:18] <ripper> get a cheapo machine for *nix
[01:18] <cavediver> http://fuse.sourceforge.net/sshfs.html
[01:18] <ripper> if your that limited
[01:18] <DBAlex> Flannel: Ubuntu Dapper Drake 6.06
[01:18] <paulus> DBAlex: what is it your need help with
[01:18] <ych> huh?
[01:18] <Flannel> DBAlex: right, but which arch?
[01:18] <thefish> ych: i would be careful of that. make a new box, copy all the files off via smb or whatever, then bring the new one up as a file server (samba does that)
[01:18] <DBAlex> Also Ubuntu Dapper Drake crashes on my machine... It crashes when starting the X Server, My machine is: AMD 64 3000, 512mb RAM, Radeon 9600se, 80GB hard drive
[01:18] <ripper> wow, i have a bot telling me how to speak...
[01:18] <ripper> heh
[01:18] <ych> yeah but the problem is
[01:18] <DBAlex> Flannel: X86
[01:19] <ych> i cant afford to get another 500GB of HDD to copy to
[01:19] <Flannel> ripper: no, you have a Code of Conduct telling you what isn't allowed.
[01:19] <DBAlex> and ubuntu 5.10 worked perfect!
[01:19] <ych> i'd like to stick to my current 3 drives
[01:19] <cavediver> tuxub: apt-get install fuse-module fuse-utils I think
[01:19] <ych> and just convert the FS on them somehow
[01:19] <paulus> did you look at the xserver error?
[01:19] <DBAlex> But now when I try to install 5.10 I cant resize my hard disk to install it
[01:19] <freebuntu> dbalex, did you do a dpkg-reconfigure yet?
[01:19] <thefish> ych: making a file linux file server that uses ntfs storage is asking for trouble
[01:19] <Flannel> DBAlex: You might try downloadingthe *brand new* 6.06.1, it's got an updated (read: bugfixes) installer and stuff
[01:19] <ych> i know
[01:19] <DBAlex> Ok
[01:19] <thefish> ych: you will need to format those drives
[01:19] <ych> thats why im trying not to use ntfs
[01:20] <ripper> did you see the microsoft guide i posted?
[01:20] <DBAlex> I cant even run the disk
[01:20] <thefish> but while you are doing that, you have no file server
[01:20] <ych> i just need to get the files off somehow
[01:20] <ripper> ych....
[01:20] <DBAlex> wont even boot to the Ubuntu menu to install
[01:20] <ripper> pm me
[01:20] <DBAlex> So i cant reconfigure
[01:20] <DBAlex> I would have tried it
[01:20] <DBAlex> unless I can crash back to a shell on the cd?
[01:20] <thefish> ych: if you dont have the space anywhere else, then you need to use DVDs
[01:20] <DBAlex> maybe u can cos its a debian installer
[01:20] <paulus> what... so you can't even boot off the cd?
[01:20] <DBAlex> Well I can
[01:21] <paulus> but it crashes?
[01:21] <petsei>  /lave #ubuntu
[01:21] <roy_lp> neutrinomass: can u help me ? i need t know where to copy the c and h files
[01:21] <Flannel> DBAlex: try the new installer.  Or at least, start the download ;)
[01:21] <DBAlex> But when the brown screen with the cursor comes up it stays for a few seconds then locks up
[01:21] <petsei>  /leave #ubuntu
[01:21] <ych> ok guess that means its time to go on newegg and get a couple 50s of dvds
[01:21] <Flannel> petsei: /part
[01:21] <DBAlex> in safe graphics and normal graphics
[01:21] <ripper> umm no.
[01:21] <ych> pity the shippings a killer
[01:21] <ripper> ych
[01:21] <cavediver> tuxub: othwewise you can invoke rdiff-backup with some ssh stuff to get it to transfer over ssh
[01:21] <ych> ya?
[01:21] <roy_lp> i found only where to copy the h file: /usr/includes/
[01:21] <DBAlex> ok Flannel
[01:21] <petsei>  /part #ubuntu
[01:21] <ripper> did you see the M$ guide i posted for you?
[01:21] <GnarusLeo> Hi .. I have a question concerning Amarok and a iPod Nano ...I have covers for all of my albums in amarok, and when I am transfeering from amarok to my iPod, I can even edit the filetag of the mp3 on the ipod and it shows a cover picture ... but on the ipod nothing appears .. what could this be?
[01:21] <paulus> gosh... and your system works fine under winblows?
[01:21] <Evz> hello
[01:21] <Flannel> petsei: no space infront of it
[01:21] <ych> i clicked it but havent looked yet
[01:21] <Evz> i need to install gstreamer
[01:21] <ych> lemme look at it
[01:21] <DBAlex> paulus: yeah, and Ubuntu 5.10!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:22] <DBAlex> I love ubuntu too
[01:22] <smacky> k
[01:22] <ripper> ubuntu loves me :D
[01:22] <Flannel> DBAlex: why don't you just upgrade from 5.10 to 6.06?
[01:22] <thefish> ripper: it seems the problem is that there is nowhere to copy the files to... so it does not matter how they are copied off, there is no box big enough to take all the files QED
[01:22] <DBAlex> This release has annoyed me thoygh
[01:22] <DBAlex> Flannel: LOL thats what im trying to do!!!
[01:22] <DBAlex> ill download the new version
[01:22] <DBAlex> brb
[01:22] <paulus> ok
[01:22] <tuxub> cavediver, ok, thanks for all your help and wisdom :)
[01:22] <ych> ok thanks i bookmarked it
[01:22] <paulus> then dist-upgrade
[01:22] <ych> ill look at it later, but now i got a driving test
[01:22] <DBAlex> thanks for your help!
[01:22] <cavediver> tuxub: does it work now *?
[01:22] <paulus> GL
[01:22] <ych> thanks for the help sofar
[01:23] <Flannel> DBAlex: er, wait.  if you're upgrading, you shouldnt be running an installer
[01:23] <ych> thx
[01:23] <DBAlex> im noy
[01:23] <DBAlex> *not
[01:23] <Joshier> I'm running ubuntu in vmware now, does anyone know any cool/fun apps to checkout?
[01:23] <tuxub> working on it :)
[01:23] <DBAlex> I dont have any ubuntu installed atm
[01:23] <DBAlex> cos I reformatted my PC...
[01:23] <paulus> yeah, he's going from a fresh
[01:23] <DBAlex> Well theres windows on the HD
[01:23] <paulus> which is why i'm suprised it's crashing on the livecd
[01:23] <jeffery> anyone come across documentation for LVM based installation ?
[01:23] <Flannel> DBAlex: alright, try 6.06.1 then.  If that doesn't work, try 5.10 > 6.06 via upgrade
[01:23] <smacky> I love windows on hp
[01:24] <paulus> yeah, do what flannel said!
[01:24] <DBAlex> but im trying to resize it and install ubuntu 5.10 then upgrade to dapper from the menu but I cant resize my hard drive
[01:24] <mcphail> paulus: there was a guide recently on debian-administration.org
[01:24] <DBAlex> ok
[01:24] <tuxub> cavediver, Package fuse-module is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:24] <DBAlex> (brb)
[01:24] <GnarusLeo> hey, I see ... even jet-fighters flying over norway as we speak
[01:24] <DBAlex> the download will take forever
[01:24] <paulus> did you unmount the drive before resizing
[01:24] <Flannel> DBAlex: ah, well, there are GParted liveCDs and stuff you can get too
[01:24] <DBAlex> so ill be back later
[01:24] <cavediver> tuxub: strange
[01:24] <Evz> somebody help me with gstreamer
[01:25] <r0wd3> Hey all
[01:25] <ripp3r666> Evz what seems to be the problem?
[01:25] <paulus> a guid for what mcphail
[01:25] <DBAlex> bye
[01:25] <Evz> this is my first time using ubuntu
[01:25] <TrendKi||> if i just keep my system up to date using dapper repositories, will i have 6.06.1?
[01:26] <Evz> and i want to install Gstreamer to hear mp3s
[01:26] <Madpilot> TrendKi||, yes
[01:26] <TrendKi||> sweet, thanks
[01:26] <paulus> yes... make sure to dist-upgrade
[01:26] <Jhair> Evz: you don't need gstreamer to hear mp3
[01:26] <Evz> what do i need?
[01:26] <TrendKi||> I will
[01:27] <mcphail> paulus: sorry - directed my prev comment to wrong nick
[01:27] <paulus> heh, thought so!
[01:27] <mcphail> :)
[01:28] <Jhair> Evz: you need the codecs and a player application
[01:28] <GnarusLeo> Anyone got any idea why my ipod does not display the covers given by amarok? If I edit one of the tags of the files ON the iPod in amarok, it displays the picture .. but the ipod itself doesnt ..
[01:28] <Evz> which codecs?
[01:28] <azcazandco> timalot: can I borrow you again for 2 secs?
[01:28] <timalot> azcazandco: ok
[01:28] <Evz> I heard that Gstreamer are the codecs for that
[01:28] <freebuntu> paulus, dist-upgrade, is that from terminal or a repository or please explain
[01:29] <azcazandco> timalot: thanks
[01:29] <Jhair> Evz: yes gstreamer includes the codecs, but gstreamer is bloated and buggy. I would not recommend gstreamer for daily use.
[01:29] <DBAlex> hi
[01:29] <DBAlex> one last question
[01:29] <timalot> azcazandco: just make sure u include my name in the message so gaim notifies me
[01:29] <DBAlex> whats ubuntu alternate edition?
[01:29] <azcazandco> wanna go to ubunto-xgl?
[01:29] <Evz> what do you recomend me?
[01:29] <freebuntu> jhair, got a recommendation TO use???
[01:29] <paulus> freebuntu: it's from the terminal "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[01:29] <faddat> does anyone have any clue how to set up an ad-hoc mode wireless network with Ubuntu, sharing my DSL connection from my wired card (I have a supported wireless card)
[01:30] <paulus> but i don't think you really ned to do it
[01:30] <cavediver> tuxub: seems like fuse-module is a dummy package for a fuse-aktivated kernel...
[01:30] <freebuntu> dbalex, it's a configurable for oem and also takes less ram to run
[01:30] <paulus> DBAlex:  the alternative is like the old skool installer- not a live cd
[01:30] <freebuntu> better on slower machines too
[01:30] <DBAlex> ok
[01:30] <DBAlex> kk
[01:30] <paulus> they replaced the livecd to be the normal installer
[01:30] <DBAlex> im downloading the desktop for now
[01:30] <Jhair> Evz, freebuntu: the Xine codecs (libxine-main1 package) are pretty stable. The stability of totem-xine against totem-gstreamer is widely recognized.
[01:31] <paulus> ok, hope it goes well
[01:31] <DBAlex> On the new installer u run it from the desktop right?
[01:31] <DBAlex> thats crap imho
[01:31] <timalot> azcazandco: ok
[01:31] <DBAlex> :P
[01:31] <azcazandco> timalot: whanna meet me in #ubuntu-xgl?
[01:31] <tuxub> cavediver, so, maybe i need to reboot to load the kernel module?
[01:31] <DBAlex> ok thnx
[01:31] <azcazandco> ah sorry
[01:31] <DBAlex> im at 1% done now LOL
[01:31] <DBAlex> im on 512kbps internet
[01:31] <freebuntu> thanks paulus... hey when would one use gksudo as opposed to just sudo?
[01:31] <mytruehero> I ran a big group of system updates that showed up in the notification area of my panel, and now my sound doesn't seem to work (it did before the updates). I'm totally new to all this. What can I do?
[01:32] <DBAlex> mytruehero: sound in which apps?
[01:32] <cavediver> tuxub: you just have to install a fuse-enables kernel. If you have that already you wont need fuse-module. I think fuse-utils should do the trick.
[01:32] <freebuntu> thx, evz
[01:32] <DBAlex> or system wide?
[01:32] <paulus> freebuntu: i'm not too sure, gksu is good for gui programs
[01:32] <paulus> or gksudo
[01:32] <cavediver> I'm not sure how to check if you have fuse compiled in or not, perhaps someone else knows
[01:32] <freebuntu> Knapper!!!
[01:33] <mytruehero> DBAlex: Good question... let me doublecheck
[01:33] <DBAlex> btw, does Ubuntu 5.10 still have Firefox 0.7?
[01:33] <DBAlex> or whatever the old version was?
[01:33] <DBAlex> I hope not
[01:33] <DBAlex> :(
[01:33] <DBAlex> not 5.10 sorry
[01:33] <DBAlex> 6.06
[01:33] <paulus> DBAlex: i think it's at least firefox 1.3
[01:33] <DBAlex> ok
[01:33] <DBAlex> good
[01:33] <faddat> dbalex: it's the lastest...
[01:33] <faddat> 1.5.5
[01:33] <faddat> er 1.5.05
[01:34] <DBAlex> lol im sick of manually installing Firefox latest
[01:34] <DBAlex> ok
[01:34] <DBAlex> :)
[01:34] <DBAlex> Thnx
[01:34] <faddat> and it auto-updates :)
[01:34] <faddat> oh no problem man
[01:34] <DBAlex> kk
[01:34] <cavediver> no no
[01:34] <paulus> DBAlex: you know what your doing to dist-upgrade from 5.04 then?
[01:34] <DBAlex> brb
[01:34] <cavediver> Firefox 1.3 doesn't ecist
[01:34] <paulus> yeah, i thought that as i typed it
[01:34] <paulus> lol
[01:34] <DBAlex> paulus: yeah, ive been using Ubuntu for about 1.5 years
[01:34] <DBAlex> :P
[01:34] <DBAlex> off and on
[01:34] <paulus> oh right. cool :)
[01:34] <mytruehero> DBAlex: Firefox for sure. I tried to play an mp3, but I need to download some codecs first, I guess (just installed Ubuntu for the first time last night). It might be system-wide, as I don't seem to be hearing any sound at all
[01:35] <DBAlex> ok
[01:35] <faddat> Anyone know if the KDE wifi config apps are easier/better than the GNOME wifi apps?
[01:35] <DBAlex> ill let the people here help you, I gotta go for dinner now, you might need to install w32codecs
[01:35] <DBAlex> or something like that
[01:35] <DBAlex> (brb)
[01:35] <DBAlex> or gstreamer plugins
[01:35] <freebuntu> how does one list all the #ubuntu"something" channels?
[01:35] <orbitalGolly> hey guys. trying to get tomcat5 running. should be a simple job of installing from synaptic, and going to localhost:8080 right? I've done a sudo /etc/init.d/tomcat5 status and it seems to be all ok. but I get an "unable to connect error." anyone got any ideas?
[01:36] <Evz> i don't know how install a program
[01:36] <Evz> Or run from Root
[01:36] <faddat> I'm trying to set up an ad-hoc Internet share for my neighbor and it's well, hellish.
[01:36] <rulus> Evz, which programN
[01:37] <Evz> LimeWire and Xine
[01:37] <freebuntu> what's a tomcat5? grins
[01:37] <Jhair> orbitalGolly: check the port being used in the server.xml configuration file
[01:37] <freebuntu> sudo apt-get install limewire totem-xine
[01:37] <rulus> Evz, Xine via sudo apt-get install xine
[01:37] <freebuntu> or even sudo aptitude limewire totem-xine
[01:37] <mytruehero> Any ideas as to why my sound might have stopped working after doing a bunch of system updates?
[01:38] <IAskew> i dont think limewire is in the repos
[01:38] <freebuntu> anyone like aptitude???
[01:38] <Ych-away> i know someone who does
[01:38] <Evz> it says E: Couldn't find package xine
[01:38] <orbitalGolly> Jhair: yeah. I thought that may be it. It doesn't mention anything about 8080.
[01:38] <Ych-away> he keeps telling me to use that instead of apt-get
[01:38] <freebuntu> mytrue, from some things I've read, you have to reinstall sound ie alsamixer or whatever. Not sure, but I had same prob
[01:38] <rulus> Evz, totem-xine :)
 look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  thats everything you need to know about codecs and which packages to install
[01:38] <cavediver> tuxub: maybe you have it there already, try connect using sshfs server:/dir local_mount_point
[01:39] <edward> anybody installed ubuntu from USB stick?
[01:39] <freebuntu> evz, it's totem-xine  isn't it guys?
[01:39] <NineTeen67Comet> hi all .. what do I need to apt-get install in order to compile applications? Isn't it like issential-items or something?
[01:39] <YoussefAssad> installed from no, but I intend to install it _to_ a memory stick if possible :)
[01:39] <paulus> to get win32 codecs :
[01:39] <paulus> wget -c http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/dapper/i386/non-free/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb
[01:39] <paulus> sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb
[01:39] <orbitalGolly> Jhair: so I'm guessing I need to manually add a line or something? not sure why that sorta detail isn't supplied by default.. ?
[01:39] <Evz> It says E: Package totem-xine has no installation candidate
[01:39] <cavediver> YoussefAssad: it can be done, but it's a bit of work...
[01:39] <Jhair> orbitalGolly: uh? That's strange. AFAIK (Tomcat 5.0.28) the port is defined there (inside <Connector port="..." ...> tags).
[01:40] <freebuntu> Default! that's a good one! HAHAHAHAHA
[01:40] <YoussefAssad> cavediver: got damnsmalllinux on my stick, and it's just too cool
[01:40] <cavediver> YoussefAssad: http://www.usbuntu.com/
[01:40] <Masticore> Is there a program that let me send and recive files via bluetooth ?
[01:40] <NineTeen67Comet> I've got an application that goes off (crazy) when I try to make .. is there something ubuntu needs before it'll make / make install etc?
[01:40] <cavediver> Masticore: gnome-bluetooth i thi nk
[01:40] <YoussefAssad> cavediver: nifty! Thanks
[01:40] <Tarandus> Hello
[01:40] <Masticore> cavediver: that lets me only recive, I think
[01:40] <freebuntu> evz that's because 6.06 has it built in. are you using linux-image 26.46?
[01:40] <Jhair> Evz: probably you don't have the universe repositories in your sources.list configuration file.
[01:40] <Tarandus> I have lots of problems with dosemu
[01:41] <Evz> I don't know...
[01:41] <Tarandus> It says I don't have the dosemu VGA font installed and claims that I'm running remote X
[01:41] <cavediver> YoussefAssad: Works ok in breezy, not updated for dapper I think
[01:41] <Tarandus> I'm running local X and I have the font installed, and DISPLAY=:0.0
[01:41] <Evz> How can i know that? how do I activate Universe Repositories?
[01:42] <freebuntu> I don't think it's the repos, cuz I just got the same message, and I do have them.
[01:42] <freebuntu> but I think it's just he needs a kernal reload of the new ones.
[01:42] <Evz> how can i get that?
[01:42] <orbitalGolly> Jhair: mm.. indeed strange. that line isn't mentioned anywhere. I'll try and re-install
[01:42] <Jhair> Evz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[01:42] <rajesh> hello everyone. I want to enable the application key in my keyboard (en_us keyboard with win keys). I selected 105-key PC keyboard both in xserver  and in gnome configuration. Any ideas please?
[01:42] <freebuntu> evz, go to synaptic, search for linux-image,  install the latest one, then later completely uninstall everything but 686 26 46
[01:43] <Tarandus> Dosemu also claims that X support is not compiled in, even when I try running it as xdosemu
[01:43] <Jhair> orbitalGolly: yes, or there is a problem with the installation or the tomcat packages in ubuntu are totally broken (I use the .tar.gz files from the apache site directly)
[01:44] <IAskew> evz, if u google 'easy ubuntu' u will get a program that will update your repositories and, i think, will install totem-xine for you
[01:44] <gnomefreak> !easyubuntu
[01:44] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[01:44] <deep__> .
[01:44] <roxlu> whats that name of the developers packaga again? ..
[01:44] <rixxon> build-essential
[01:44] <roxlu> oh oke thanx!
[01:45] <freebuntu> isn't automatix better than easybuntu
[01:45] <bluesign> hi, is it possible for me to enable remote desktop on a windows server from my ubuntu/
[01:45] <IAskew> i think so freebuntu but lots disagree
[01:45] <freebuntu> I've tried them both, easy is easier but automatix is more fullfeatured
[01:45] <IAskew> agreed
[01:45] <Blinker> whats the generally preferred application for CD/DVD burning?
[01:46] <orbitalGolly> Jhair: yeah. looks broken. i reinstalled and there is no server.xml file at all anymore. I'll install from the site itself I guess. pity.. i like synaptic doing everything for me!
[01:46] <newbuntie> does anyone have a spare gmail invite?
[01:46] <Jhair> Blinker: nautilus?
[01:46] <orbitalGolly> Jhair: thanks
[01:46] <gnomefreak> newbuntie: yes email me at gnomefreak@ubuntu.com and ill send you one
[01:46] <rixxon> newbuntie, sure
[01:47] <freebuntu> gnomebaker???
[01:47] <Jhair> orbitalGolly: I see. I had very bad experience with java packages in Debian and Ubuntu. The best way (at list for me) is to install the original apache packages in the directory you want.
[01:47] <Blinker> hah, imagine that.
[01:47] <freebuntu> I heard you could do cat> something and burn files directly???
[01:47] <bluesign> is there a way to access remote windows registry from linux?
[01:48] <rixxon> what is that, anyway?
[01:48] <freebuntu> ssh with winscp?
[01:48] <rixxon> i think he means other way around, freebuntu
[01:48] <sladen> wine regedit ?
[01:48] <YoussefAssad> or vnc, if the pipe's fat enough
[01:48] <Jhair> bluesign: use rdesktop to connect to the remote windows and start regedit from there.
[01:48] <bluesign> jhair: i will enable remote dektop by changing registry :)
[01:48] <J_P> hi all
[01:48] <rixxon> or net start telnet and use command line registry tools
[01:49] <ianw_> Hi All
[01:49] <bluesign> sladden: I will try wine regedit
[01:49] <toxicfume> hi all
[01:50] <tuxub> cavediver, I got sshfs to work, thanks :D
[01:50] <ianw_> Does anyone have saslauthd running?
[01:50] <freebuntu> is tomcat5 an apache server app or what?
[01:50] <OsirisX11> hi all! my x crashes after i update my kernel from 386 to k7, i have an asus kv8-x w/athlon 3400+ 64 on dapper
[01:50] <toxicfume> I'm using Kubuntu, but i also want the default Gnome WM of the original Ubuntu, what packages do i need to get?
[01:50] <cavediver> tuxub: sweet. Is it nice u think ?
[01:50] <tuxub> It way better than nice
[01:50] <gnomefreak> toxicfume: install ubuntu-desktop
[01:50] <tuxub> i will copy the files with rdiff-backup
[01:51] <cavediver> It's a good tool
[01:51] <bluesign> sladden: I can run regedit, but connect to remote reg. is disabled :(
[01:51] <cavediver> tuxub: What did you do to get it working ?
[01:51] <ianw_> Is there an unbuntu security channel does anyone know?
[01:51] <tuxub> cavediver, this: http://www.archivesat.com/Debian_users_support/thread717763.htm
[01:51] <freebuntu> yes please, tuxub, apt-get install sshfs I assume first
[01:52] <toxicfume> gnomefreak: thanks, how do i setup the display manager then?
[01:52] <tuxub> cavediver, it compiled the module and then got working
[01:52] <longwave> ianw_: i am running saslauthd, though on a debian box, but it shouldn't be too different :)
[01:52] <OsirisX11> anyone have suggestions on how to make it so my x doesnt crash after a kernel upgrade?
[01:52] <tuxub> now I discovered that I have a new problem :P
[01:52] <gnomefreak> toxicfume: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm     that will make it use gdm instead of kdm
[01:52] <tuxub> the machine has a 3ware raid card
[01:52] <OsirisX11> using nvidia nonfree with geforce 5200
[01:52] <Jhair> OsirisX11: it shouldn't.
[01:52] <r0wd3> Im very new to Ubuntu please help, None of my Jpg images work, ubuntu wont let me open them, through any application.
[01:53] <tuxub> i downloaded a special version of debian that works with the hardware raid
[01:53] <Evz> it doesn't intall
[01:53] <moi> Anyone here understand the DD command?
[01:53] <tuxub> I tried to upgrade the kernel (the default is -386) to a K8-smp and the machine stops to boot :(
[01:53] <OsirisX11> tuxtux: same problem here
[01:53] <tuxub> it doesnt have the kernel drivers for the raid cards ?
[01:54] <tuxub> OsirisX11, do you managed to overcome that?
[01:54] <freebuntu> rowd3, I would install automatix
[01:54] <OsirisX11> tuxsub: no that's why i'm here
[01:54] <tuxub> :)
[01:54] <tuxub> great :P
[01:54] <moi> Can anyone help me with the DD unix/linux command?
[01:55] <tuxub> it's kinda frustrating having a dual AMD64 machine using a 386 kernel
[01:55] <longwave> moi what are you trying to do with it?
[01:55] <OsirisX11> yea i have an amd64 machine too
[01:55] <r0wd3> freebuntu: I havent heard of that befor, what is automatix
[01:55] <OsirisX11> r0wd3: ppst google it
[01:55] <moi> longwave, am trying to copy the first partition from sda1 directly to sda2
[01:55] <freebuntu> moi, you've done man dd???
[01:55] <Whyvas> r0wd3, open up firefox, goto to google and find out
[01:55] <Whyvas> beat me to it.
[01:55] <OsirisX11> ;)
[01:56] <freebuntu> rowd3, from terminal:  sudo apt-get install automatix
[01:56] <rulus> moi: dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sda2 ?
[01:56] <moi> thx rulus!, can anyone confirm?
[01:56] <OsirisX11> so anyone have any idea why both me and tuxub's boxes are crashing after installing k7 from default 386? we both have amd64 processors
[01:56] <freebuntu> however you have to have the beerforkid repos,   also see www.getautomatix.com
[01:56] <longwave> moi: i think what rulus said should work
[01:57] <longwave> moi: the only problem i can see is if /dev/sda1 doesn't return EOF when you hit the end of the partition, but i imagine it does
[01:57] <tuxub> i think we need a special kernel with the 3ware module
[01:57] <moi> thankyou longwave and rulus, whats EOF?
[01:57] <longwave> moi: "end of file"
[01:57] <moi> of course
[01:57] <longwave> moi: it is a special marker that lets dd know when to stop :)
[01:57] <Whyvas> OsirisX11, stick with the 386 stuff, there's no point in going to 686, some people even find that 686 is slower
[01:58] <freebuntu> before the airbags inflate
[01:58] <OsirisX11> really
[01:58] <moi> again, many thanks longwave
[01:58] <OsirisX11> can anyone attest to that as well?
[01:58] <OsirisX11> 686 or k7 being slower than default?
[01:58] <krimzon> is it possible to force my nvidia drivers to do 4x antialiasing, like you can with the tray tool in windows?
[01:58] <freebuntu> do some people find the 686 FASTER?
[01:58] <longwave> i don't know about slower but there is not that much difference in speed between 386 and 686 kernels
[01:58] <Wizardling> Does 6.06.1 fix Ubuntu for original iMac G3 machines?
[01:58] <moi> like Jack_Sparrow said " DD is a sledge hammer of tools"
[01:58] <OsirisX11> 10% right?
[01:58] <Whyvas> google 686 vs 386 kernel
[01:58] <cavediver> tuxub: also rdiff-backup keeps history forever so in order to clean up once in a while, run rdiff-backup --remove-older-than 2M /backed/up/directory
[01:58] <Whyvas> you'll see
[01:58] <moi> wanted to get it right
[01:59] <fuzzybunny> wow
[01:59] <cavediver> tuxub: ypu can use D for days, M for months and so on
[01:59] <fuzzybunny> I just d/led the 6.01 ubuntu version
[01:59] <fuzzybunny> awesome GUI install :)
[01:59] <longwave> moi: yes, you can do a lot of low-level disk and file manipulation with dd with various parameters to it
[01:59] <tuxub> cavediver, its finnaly running :D
[01:59] <OsirisX11> what's google?
[02:00] <freebuntu> anyone know easy way to clone a drive, in windows I used to use norton ghost
[02:00] <fuzzybunny> freebuntu, why is ver 6+ not complicated w/all kinds of x config nonsense?
[02:00] <Whyvas> google is god's gift to the ignorant
[02:00] <Wizardling> Anyone know if anyone could be bothered to test 6.06.1 on early iMacs?
[02:00] <moi> amen
[02:00] <Whyvas> Fred, use norton ghost
[02:00] <moi> *says an ignorant"
[02:00] <Whyvas> freebuntu, use norton ghost
[02:01] <freebuntu> because they are finally giving windows a run for their money. up till 3 months ago, I was a windows GURU. Now I'm a linux NEWBIE   sigh
[02:01] <freebuntu> like school all over again
[02:01] <fuzzybunny> lol
[02:01] <OsirisX11> hahah i'm in here using mirc through wine.. it works great :)
[02:01] <Wizardling> lucky you freebuntu
[02:01] <fuzzybunny> I'm prob gonna be in the same boat freebuntu
[02:01] <Whyvas> why mirc OsirisX11 ?
[02:01] <Whyvas> try xchat!
[02:01] <prologic> Hi, where do I find ubuntu packages (apt sources) for mythtv ?
[02:01] <fuzzybunny> not even windows has a GUI install
[02:01] <OsirisX11> there was no irc client installed by default
[02:01] <lowenduser> I just got ubuntu installed after having a session with kubuntu. In the latter, all I had to do to create a rootpassword was type "passwd root" and then the password. In ubuntu I'm not authorized to do so. Why is that?
[02:01] <Wizardling> I wish I had a machine Ubuntu would work on with out editing config files.
[02:01] <krimzon> i'm playing Second Life on wine :p
[02:02] <Whyvas> prologic, are you setting up a dedicated box for mythtv?
[02:02] <freebuntu> mythtv.com?
[02:02] <tuxub> i gotta go to lunch
[02:02] <tuxub> cavediver, thanks once again
[02:02] <prologic> Whyvas, no I just need the frontend
[02:02] <OsirisX11> fuzzybunny: dapper is graphical install
[02:02] <usound> lowenduser: try sudo passwd root
[02:02] <freebuntu> wizard, you've done automatix?
[02:02] <Wizardling> huh?
[02:02] <tuxub> OsirisX11, can you please mail me (famaia@gmail.com) with a solution for the raid thing if you got one?
[02:02] <Wizardling> auto what? :-)
[02:02] <Whyvas> prologic, google for the dapper repositories, last I checked the ones in the default repositories were older than my grandmother
[02:02] <OsirisX11> tuxub i'm having a gfx issue not raid
[02:02] <lowenduser> arh great! thanks, it worked! :D
[02:03] <Whyvas> they still had mythtv 0.18
[02:03] <kitsuneofdoom> ok. I have a wireless card that I managed to get working through the fwcutter method. However, this requires that ndiswrapper is not running
[02:03] <OsirisX11> ok thanks for nothing guys
[02:03] <OsirisX11> have a good one
[02:03] <usound> lowenduser: no prob.
[02:03] <Whyvas> what are you using for the server?
[02:03] <kitsuneofdoom> I can't seem to get ndiswrapper from starting at boot
[02:03] <prologic> Whyvas, okay thanks
[02:03] <freebuntu> www.getautomatix.com
[02:03] <kitsuneofdoom> wow...grammar off...I woke up an hour ago, sorry
[02:03] <tuxub> WildZeck, http://www.getautomatix.com/
[02:03] <moi> longwave, rulus, dd reports: /dev/sda2' : No space left on device - but it is totaly empty, no partitions or anything as new, how can I get around this?
[02:04] <Wizardling> and what use is automix to me? What is it, for a start?
[02:04] <Wizardling> matix, sorry
[02:04] <freebuntu> an all in one config everything, like easyubuntu
[02:04] <usound> moi: is sda1 larger in size than sda2
[02:05] <Wizardling> and this will get me a copy that will actually install trouble free on my CRT iMacs?
[02:05] <prologic> Whyvas, so is the solution to upgrade to breezy ? (from dapper)
[02:05] <kitsuneofdoom> ok. I have a wireless card that I managed to get working through the fwcutter method. However, this requires that ndiswrapper is not running, and it starts up at boot.
[02:05] <Whyvas> prologic, yeah still 0.18.1
[02:05] <Overand> prologic: moving down is dangerous
[02:05] <Whyvas> prologic, no, what server version/distro are you running?
[02:05] <Overand> prologic: an 'upgrade' in the wrong direction can break stuff
[02:05] <Wizardling> no, it won't
[02:05] <Wizardling> it's nothing like that
[02:05] <moi> usound, no, identical drives
[02:06] <delight> !pda
[02:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about pda - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:06] <Wizardling> my problem is, as it has been for over a year now (and maybe always for all I know), that Unbuntu sets the wrong resolution for early CRT iMac screens.
[02:06] <Wizardling> thus flumoxing newbies
[02:06] <Wizardling> newbies who I'd love to be giving Unbuntu disks to.
[02:07] <moi> longwave, rulus, usound, am only useing dd to copy this partition as gparted will not allow me to copy a pri partition, even from one drive to another
[02:07] <Whyvas> Wizardling, did you try in safe graphics mode?
[02:07] <Overand> Wizardling: You really know that many people with early-gen CRT iMacs?
[02:07] <Wizardling> I know a few cause I gave them the iMacs refurbed
[02:07] <Overand> I'm not syaing it shouldn't get fixed, if possible, just curious.
[02:07] <Wizardling> they make - except for Ubuntu - great low end Macs
[02:07] <freebuntu> can't you set the right resolution by prefs>screen?
[02:08] <tr00st> Hey, I seem to be having a problem with my WLAN card (Belkin F5D7010, PCMCIA). Installed Dapper last night, all was running fine, configured the card via the networking tool and it worked fine. This morning, unless I remove the wlan card, the boot process stops when configuring network devices. Further to that, if I plug it in while the laptop's running, I'm unable to run most programs (firefox runs, but that's all I could find). Any help would be
[02:08] <tr00st> much appreciated.
[02:08] <Overand> Wizardling: there's a chance, and I don't know this, but a chance that the display doesn't send 'plug and play' info to the video card
[02:08] <Wizardling> but OSX - even with 512MB RAM in these old G3's - is just too slow nowadays
[02:08] <Overand> Wizardling: do other distros detect the right rez?
[02:08] <delight> !pda
[02:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about pda - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:08] <Overand> that is, other versions of linux etc
[02:08] <Wizardling> Unbuntu or Xbuntu would be ideal
[02:08] <delight> !windowsce
[02:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about windowsce - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:08] <Whyvas> tr00st, when you plug it in and stuff slows down, open up a terminal and type dmesg
[02:08] <delight> !windowsmobile
[02:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about windowsmobile - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:08] <Wizardling> I've not had any troubles with various BSD flavoured Unixs
[02:09] <Overand> heh, i've had lots of trouble with BSD flavored unicies
[02:09] <Overand> 've actually never run X11 on them
[02:09] <moi> !dd
[02:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about dd - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:09] <Overand> but that's a different matter entirely
[02:09] <Overand> Also, *personally* - I didn't have a lot of luck with ubuntu on low end hardware
[02:09] <Wizardling> here - this thread explains the trouble: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217495
[02:09] <delight> moi man dd
[02:09] <delight> try that on command
[02:09] <yey> hi
[02:09] <Overand> a lot of the script-based ubuntu-specific apps run somewhat poorly on limited hardware
[02:10] <Wizardling> the bug has been present for ages.
[02:10] <Overand> that's just my personal experience
[02:10] <GnarusLeo> Anyone know where the cvs of amarok is?
[02:10] <moi> rgr that
[02:10] <Overand> Wizardling: What rez do you 'want' and what rez is it setting?
[02:10] <Wizardling> I've no idea what it's setting
[02:10] <Overand> an unideal solution would be for you to roll a custom ubuntu installer
[02:10] <Overand> well- does it set a rez that 'works' ?
[02:10] <ianw_> longwave: Can you post your .conf file the DEFAULTS line please
[02:10] <Overand> or is the display completely illegible?
[02:10] <faddat> How would I get rid of all config info for a device I installed and want to re-install (I configured a wireless card improperly, now when I put it in my computer it hangs, but initally it detected perfectly and worked well)
[02:10] <Overand> ah, reading the threat
[02:10] <Overand> ..d
[02:10] <freebuntu> overand, my understanding is to use xbuntu-alternate, then load gdm on top
[02:11] <ianw_> mine is DEFAULTS=/etc/default/saslauthd
[02:11] <ianw_> but when I uncommment that line I get
[02:11] <Overand> freebuntu: yeah, sounds like a rea sonable approach
[02:11] <Wizardling> But 15" iMac CRT screens work with 640x480 @ 117 Hz, 800x600 @ 95 Hz and 1024x768 @ 75 Hz
[02:12] <ianw_> /etc/default/saslauthd: line 5: You: command not found
[02:12] <freebuntu> well do the 75 hz, it should run...
[02:12] <Overand> Wizardling: on that thread, you never put in the contents of the file the guy asked for
[02:12] <Wizardling> obviuously it would make sense for X Windows to use 1024x768 @ 75 Hz
[02:12] <Wizardling> there was no such file
[02:12] <fuzzybunny> holy shit guys I'm going to get a dedicated machine for ubuntu
[02:12] <Wizardling> it did not exist
[02:12] <Overand> Wizardling: look at the bottom of the thread
[02:12] <freebuntu> also you have to comment the monitor in some conf file I forget to make sure it KNOWS the monitor can do over 60 hz if it's not pNp
[02:13] <fuzzybunny> this is such a schnazzy product
[02:13] <Wizardling> I saw that
[02:13] <Overand> Wizardling: do you have one of these machines running?
[02:13] <Wizardling> but this does not allow noobs to install it
[02:13] <freebuntu> I did, fuzzy, and never looked back
[02:13] <Wizardling> or not happily
[02:13] <Overand> Wizardling: he's asking for the contents so he can see what it's doing, too
[02:13] <Wizardling> and you know how hard it is to get noobs happy
[02:13] <freebuntu> sometimes when I leave the room, I hear the two machines fighting it out
[02:13] <Overand> we can't understand the issue if we don't know what's wrong
[02:13] <fuzzybunny> lol
[02:13] <freebuntu> usually the penguin kicks bills azz
[02:14] <Overand> I'd like to see the contents of that file.
[02:14] <Overand> You could use pastebin etc
[02:14] <Wizardling> did you also read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75604&highlight=imac+blank+screen which DOES fix the issue for v5.x?
[02:14] <usound> moi: I'm not a hardware expert, but there is a possibility that one drive is slightly larger than the other (a couple bytes)
[02:14] <ACSpike> I recently upgraded to dapper. If I do not have autologin configured, I think GDM won't start, I see the little spinning disk cursor perpetually after boot. If I configure the session to autologin as my user, the session starts but nautilus doesn't, no desktop and clicking the options in the places menu won't open a window. any suggestions?
[02:14] <usound> moi: trying mounting sda2 and see what happens
[02:15] <r0wd3> Every since I updated my rig, I haven't been abil to type my password in terminal. Ill type, as if letter or nuber keys do nothing.
[02:15] <Wizardling> regardless - this is no a Unix for newbies if it requires editing of config files
[02:15] <Wizardling> it's sad :-(
[02:15] <Overand> Wizardling: did you file an official bug report?
[02:15] <Wizardling> well, it also fails on lots of other Macs too.
[02:15] <mytruehero> I tried installing all of those plugins, but my sound still does not work (again, it worked fine before I installed 160 or so system updates that Ubuntu recommended).
[02:15] <Wizardling> It is a known bug since v5.x
[02:16] <Overand> Wizardling: known where?
[02:16] <Wizardling> I need to file another report?
[02:16] <freebuntu> oh please... you know how many times in Winders I had to use a dos prompt and regedit? It's all the same, and ubuntu's way easier
[02:16] <Overand> Possibly.  I'm not sure.
[02:16] <Wizardling> know... shit, just check the forums
[02:16] <Overand> Wizardling: the forums aren't the bug tracker
[02:16] <Wizardling> CRT iMac user after user for over a year has been running into a brick wall
[02:17] <prologic> hrmm I'm using Hamster's mythtv sources and I can't seem to install myth-frontend
[02:17] <moi> ok heres my problem in full...
[02:17] <kjs862> anyone have any experience with active worlds?
[02:17] <freebuntu> well, that's what the Amish get! throw that crtimac INTO the brick wall!
[02:17] <moi> Bought a sata drive that makes nasty noises, got identical replacment from shop,
[02:17] <moi> trying to copy the 5 partitions from sda1 to sda2 before taking fauly one back.
[02:17] <Overand> moi: maxtor?
[02:17] <moi> Have gparted livecd, but it will not allow copying of pri partition,
[02:17] <moi> saying your only allowed one pri partition; even though its from one drive to
[02:17] <tr00st> Whyvas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20193 is the output I got from dmesg
[02:17] <moi> another.
[02:18] <Overand> Wizardling: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[02:18] <moi> yes maxtor Overand
[02:18] <Wizardling> yeah, I'm looking over bug submission guidlines
[02:18] <Overand> Wizardling: I'm not trying to write off this bug as unimportant, or your frustration as unreasonable or unwarranted
[02:19] <Overand> I'm just saying, this may well be something worth contributing to the bug database
[02:19] <Overand> you should check to see if it's already there
[02:19] <freebuntu> help, my ubuntu won't run on an Atari 400
[02:19] <neutrinomass> Is there a way to turn my laptop's fan on whenever I want to ?
[02:19] <Whyvas> prologic, i fought with installing mythtv on ubuntu for a while, then I said screw it and just used knoppmyth
[02:19] <moi> lol
[02:19] <freebuntu>  my Timex Sinclair won't load Kbuntu!
[02:19] <freebuntu> snicker
[02:19] <moi> lol
[02:19] <Overand> Wizardling: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/51904 miiiight be the same thing
[02:20] <Chris0r> hey
[02:20] <Whyvas> tr00st, what version of ndiswrapper are you using?
[02:20] <Chris0r> how do i install my usb wifi card?
[02:20] <Overand> more detail like "default install sets wrong monitor info resulting in black screen" - IF you can fix it by reconfiguring
[02:20] <Chris0r> !wfi
[02:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about wfi - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:20] <Chris0r> !wifi
[02:20] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:20] <Wizardling> yes, it is - I'm sure of it
[02:20] <freebuntu> but to be fair, moi, I push it too to see how far... running on a p3 600 just to see how far I can push it
[02:20] <Wizardling> I see other similar reports
[02:21] <tr00st> Whyvas, whatever was installed as default... I'll just check
[02:21] <Whyvas> on dapper?
[02:21] <tr00st> indeed
[02:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Morning moi...
[02:21] <tr00st> hm
[02:21] <moi> aye, cant fault you freebuntu, if only still had my c64
[02:21] <Overand> Wizardling: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/22976
[02:21] <moi> mornin Jack_Sparrow
[02:21] <tr00st> can't find ndiswrapper installed
[02:21] <Overand> that one looks more appropriate, an d it's still there
[02:21] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: I still have one... Commodore was my first programming job..
[02:22] <freebuntu> hehehe I know a place in grandview MO that is a national commodore/amiga repair station
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Vic 10 4k
[02:22] <moi> Jack_Sparrow did you sort your wife's pc?
[02:22] <freebuntu> they love that old "crap"
[02:22] <mytruehero> I ran a big group of system updates that showed up in the notification area of my panel, and now my sound doesn't seem to work (it did before the updates). I'm totally new to all this. What can I do?
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Vic 20 4k of ram
[02:22] <freebuntu> eeeeesh!
[02:22] <freebuntu> hehehe
[02:22] <Chris0r> how do i install my usb wifi card?
[02:23] <Whyvas> tr00st, i have 1.8 installed on my dapper, the newest stable is 1.22, on my other machine, compiling it from source made a huge diffrence for me, even speedwise it would go much faster
[02:23] <r0wd3> Im am having trouble writing in my password after a sudo comand in terminal. Help! Its kinda Vital
[02:23] <Jack_Sparrow> MEpis made it overheat as I was testing distros and the Xircom modem ..Put it back to Ubuntu 6 and all is well
[02:23] <Overand> Wizardling: there are current posts there, and it's listed as a high priority bug
[02:23] <Whyvas> Chris0r, did you not see the earlier response?
[02:23] <Whyvas> !wifi
[02:23] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:23] <Chris0r> that doesnt seem to help
[02:23] <freebuntu> rowd3 describe?
[02:23] <Chris0r> its not listed.
[02:23] <moi> Jack_Sparrow; still havnt figgered out howto copy that partiton
[02:23] <moi> lol
[02:23] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: did you get that last pm on dd yesterday?
[02:23] <Whyvas> Chris0r, try actually reading it
[02:23] <Overand> Wizardling: so- it's not just a 'known bug' - it's at least in the bug tracker
[02:23] <IAskew> anybody any idea where i can get the latest libmad and libmp3lame libraries from in .deb form?
[02:23] <moi> nope Jack_Sparrow
[02:24] <Wizardling> here it is: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/22976
[02:24] <Overand> Wizardling: yeah, i linked you to that.
[02:24] <Wizardling> that's my bug
[02:24] <Wizardling> and a longstanding one
[02:24] <Overand> Notice that it's acknowledged, and it's high priority
[02:24] <Wizardling> and so easily fixed.
[02:24] <Wizardling> sorry
[02:24] <Overand> Wizardling: it's so easily fixed?
[02:24] <Wizardling> wasn't keeping up in here
[02:24] <Overand> Well, feel free to upload a patch to fix it.
[02:24] <Wizardling> It is, yes.
[02:24] <tr00st> Whyvas, shall I try disabling whatever drivers are already running and compile ndiswrapper then?
[02:25] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb  or dd if=drive.image of=/dev/hdd
[02:25] <Wizardling> if five minutes with vi can get it working for me, it's easy.
[02:25] <r0wd3> freebuntu: I will open up terminal and write "sudo apt-get install crabball" just and e.g. and it asks for my password underneath this line, but as i type to enter it in, nothing happens.
[02:25] <Overand> Wizardling: manually editing in vi when you *know* what the problem is doesn't help the installer to determine the issue and set up a workaround for that specific hardware
[02:25] <r0wd3> This has happend since my last instal
[02:25] <Wizardling> most of the five minutes was printing out the directions so when the screen went blank I'd know what to do.
[02:25] <NineTeen67Comet> r0wd3: The curser will not move when entering passwords .. type it in and hit enter ..
[02:25] <Whyvas> tr00st, I THINK if you just do a rmmod ndiswrapper then compile the new one and install then modprobe it you're fine, but im not sure
[02:26] <freebuntu> hey guys, where would one suggest I go to find someone good on linux/ubuntu, to HIRE for a few hours a month/week, paypal, etc, any job/resume postings for ubuntu? I need some help that I don't want to try and figure out on my own, too busy!!!
[02:26] <Chris0r> i need help them docs tell you what to do after its detected your card...
[02:26] <NineTeen67Comet> r0wd3: it is a security thing ..
[02:26] <Whyvas> tr00st, remove all the drivers and configs that you can and redo them all
[02:26] <Whyvas> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=93482&package_id=99148&release_id=437275
[02:26] <tr00st> Whyvas, ndiswrapper isn't installed
[02:26] <Whyvas> huh?
[02:26] <tr00st> think there's a native driver for this card
[02:26] <r0wd3> NineTeen67Comet: That is not the issue, I type it in, and it doesnt type.
[02:26] <Overand> Wizardling: the issue is in ddcprobe, apparently, or the script that wraps around it, so you can feel to crack open the source code to that, see if you can come up with a fix, recompile, rebuild an installer CD, and test it out, and if it works, then submit your modifications as a .patch
[02:26] <Whyvas> oh
[02:27] <Whyvas> tr00st, paste the output of lspci in the pastebin
[02:27] <Traker> hi all!
[02:27] <r0wd3> I havent found anything on any forum about this.
[02:27] <tr00st> Whyvas, after putting the card in?
[02:27] <Whyvas> yeah
[02:28] <Overand> Wizardling: I'm not a developer and I don't know the details, all I can suggest is that you add to the bug reports if youj've got more info
[02:28] <Traker> anyone could help me for a new xgl install? i need only a few info
[02:28] <Overand> Wizardling: attach output from lspci etc
[02:28] <Overand> Wizardling: or, ask how you can help
[02:28] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: Gimme a couple minutes to see if I can find that tutorial from years ago... And didnt g4l work for you?
[02:28] <NineTeen67Comet> r0wd3: It's not supposed to type. The cursor will not move when you are typing. It will look like nothing is happening. eg: if your password is rootkicker .. then as you type rootkicker nothing will happen.. then when you are done typing it hit enter ..
[02:28] <tr00st> Whyvas, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20194
[02:28] <Traker> none? :(
[02:29] <Wizardling> Overand - yeah, I see the problem.
[02:29] <NineTeen67Comet> I gotta run ..
[02:29] <Wizardling> I guess I just wonder why not insitute a kludgy fix in the meantime? ;-)
[02:29] <Overand> Wizardling: 'in the meantime' would be in ~5 months
[02:29] <prologic> Hi, I'm trying to install mythtv and get this error -->  http://paste.lisp.org/display/23919
[02:29] <r0wd3> NineTeen67Comet: Undersood, but i do that, after i hit enter, it says "sorry try again" (im not typing my password in wrong"
[02:29] <Overand> or however long it is until edgy
[02:29] <Chris0r> how do i install my usb wifi card?
[02:29] <Whyvas> tr00st, yeah, RaLink chipset, i've never dealth with them, I would just use ndiswrapper
[02:29] <Overand> er
[02:29] <Overand> nmot edgy
[02:30] <tr00st> mmk
[02:30] <Wizardling> oh well.... I guess I wait for 7.x
[02:30] <Whyvas> tr00st, or if you have money, go out and buy a better card
[02:30] <ianw_> Hi can anyone help on sasld please
[02:30] <Wizardling> at least I can use it, being preficient enough with OSX to use the CL
[02:30] <Whyvas> i have a prism based card and it's fantastick
[02:30] <Traker> I've an amd64 proc and nvidia 7900gt (with 3d acceleration installed), i'm searching for an updated tutorial to install xgl, anyone can help me?
[02:30] <tr00st> Whyvas, sadly, that is not an option :(
[02:30] <ianw_> If I uncommment my DEFAULTS line in the .conf file, I get
[02:30] <r0wd3> NineTeen67Comet: thanks anyways i gtg.
[02:30] <Overand> Wizardling: something that might be interesting is to see if edgy fixes it- keeping in mind that edgy is NOT stable
[02:30] <Whyvas> tr00st, yeah, figured
[02:30] <Wizardling> *proficient
[02:30] <tr00st> Whyvas, thanks for the help though
[02:31] <Whyvas> np
[02:31] <moi> Jack_Sparrow, running "sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb" seems to be working
[02:31] <Chris0r> !nidwrapper
[02:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about nidwrapper - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:31] <Chris0r> !niswrapper
[02:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about niswrapper - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:31] <Whyvas> the new ndiswrapper should be fine, the only thing i don't like about it is that you can't use aircrack
[02:31] <Wizardling> Hmmm... any thoughts as to how the manual fix would apply to Xbuntu?
[02:31] <moi> Jack_Sparrow (they are sata drives
[02:31] <moi> )
[02:31] <ianw_> Sorry guys got to run, I'll pop back when it's a little less busy :-)
[02:31] <Whyvas> !ndiswrapper
[02:31] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:32] <tr00st> shouldn't be a problem, just wanting it for irc and sending files really
[02:32] <TritonX> does anyone here use Audacity ?
[02:32] <Traker> none? has a nvidia with xgl running?
[02:32] <Overand> TritonX: yep, but i haven't used it in ubuntu
[02:32] <Wizardling> I'd like to get the best possible speed on the old Rev c iMac I'm using to test out various Linix flavours
[02:32] <TritonX> does it support multiple input, (FW1884)
[02:32] <Jack_Sparrow> moi same difference     just sda and sdb  bookmark this for later      http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=362506
[02:32] <Overand> TritonX: yeah, but it's ugly
[02:33] <Overand> Wizardling: the manual fix should be the same in Xubuntu
[02:33] <moi> Jack_Sparrow, aye, seems to be working, will let you hear when it finishes
[02:33] <Traker> I've an amd64 proc and nvidia 7900gt (with 3d acceleration installed), i'm searching for an updated tutorial to install xgl, anyone can help me? there's too many howtos on the net :(
[02:33] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[02:34] <Chousuke> Traker: hmmh
[02:34] <Jack_Sparrow> moi sudo dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdb1 also does what you would expect
[02:34] <Chousuke> Traker: Isn't XGL installable from the apt repositories?
[02:34] <angel> nnvbnn
[02:35] <moi> Jack_Sparrow, thx, oh and g4l, was a little brain dead by the end of yesterday, kept forgeting the commands
[02:35] <Chousuke> Traker: xserver-xgl or something
[02:35] <angel> help
[02:35] <moi> Jack_Sparrow, es, its making sence now
[02:35] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: just waking up here ... Suns not up yet
[02:36] <moi> Jack_Sparrow, where do you hail from?
[02:36] <Traker> Chousuke: yes but i red a lot of tutorials, all different, on how to configure it (and which pakets have to be installed) and now i'm a little bit confused
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: San Diego CA
[02:36] <moi> Nottingham UK
[02:36] <angel> hello me gustari that somebody helped me, I am of mexico
[02:36] <moi> lol.....
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: we can pm to keep offtopic out of channel
[02:37] <moi> rgr that
[02:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati > Traker:
[02:37] <angel> alguien sabe esapol
[02:38] <Jack_Sparrow> !es
[02:38] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:38] <Traker> Jack_Sparrow:  ?
[02:38] <angel> ok. gracias
[02:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Traker:  have you done this
[02:38] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati
[02:38] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:39] <smacky> i have a question is it possible to make this run thou a switch ?
[02:39] <Traker> Jack_Sparrow: yes sure, i've installed nvidia drivers with acceleration and all work fine
[02:39] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[02:39] <Jack_Sparrow> smacky: Make what run through a switch
[02:40] <moi> Jack_Sparrow, pm'd you
[02:40] <smacky> nbuntu
[02:40] <Jack_Sparrow> dont see it...
[02:40] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: See mine
[02:40] <RvGaTe> What package do i need to install KDE ?
[02:40] <Traker> Jack_Sparrow:  now i've only to install xgl, but there are many howtos and i need one updated for arch64
[02:41] <IAskew> RvGaTe, kubuntu-desktop
[02:41] <visik7> RvGaTe: kubuntu-desktop
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> RvGaTe: do you just want the kde apps or kdm
[02:41] <RvGaTe> thx IAskew  visik7  and Jack_Sparrow  :)
[02:42] <moi> Jack_Sparrow, yes I see it
[02:42] <moi> Jack_Sparrow, do you not see mine?
[02:42] <Jack_Sparrow> RvGaTe: I thought ap-get install kubuntu-desktop would give me kdm and it did not...  Kubuntu is KDE - Ubuntu
[02:42] <Jack_Sparrow> nope
[02:42] <moi> odd
[02:42] <Dixon85> ???How can I disable SELinux???
[02:43] <RvGaTe> Dixon85, uninstall it ?
[02:43] <moi> Jack_Sparrow, just said "Nottingham UK, just made me think how we much we seem like the 51st state" anyway i'll not off topic anylonger
[02:43] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[02:44] <moi> Jack_Sparrow, have you an email or im account we could speak on?
[02:44] <Jack_Sparrow> RvGaTe: If you just want to install kde apps in Ubuntu the repos will pull in anything they need to run.
[02:44] <moi> Jack_Sparrow, you could pm it, as I see yours
[02:45] <roxlu> when I've changed /etc/ld.so.conf, how can I reload it?
[02:45] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: done
[02:46] <RvGaTe> aargg... i really get anoyed by the shift-backspace shortcut...
[02:46] <moi> Jack_Sparrow, got it
[02:46] <Dixon85> RvGaTe: do you know the name of the package?
[02:46] <smacky> my install is stuck at 50% go figure
[02:47] <RvGaTe> Dixon85, nope...
[02:47] <Jack_Sparrow> smacky: IS that a lappy with pcmcia, sata raid drives ?
[02:48] <red_Marvin> Do anyone know how to input international characters with ncursesw? (I can't find a getc() for wide characters)
[02:48] <squeechy> Q: Anyone know what the deal is with 'gam_server' chewing up CPU cycles?
[02:48] <smacky> no it is not
[02:50] <Masticore> How can i fix this error? checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[02:52] <squeechy> ...seems 'gam_server' has been a known issue for over a year now. Some advise renaming the daemon to prevent it from starting; if its not running, what am I losing in functionality?
[02:52] <mantono> smacky: is it an AMD64 computer?
[02:52] <moi> Jack_Sparrow, may be a long wait, what with being 300g drives
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> PAtience
[02:53] <smacky> nope amd 1.9 processor on 3 gigs of ram
[02:53] <moi> young jedi
[02:53] <moi> you must learn
[02:53] <moi> learn you must*
[02:53] <mantono> smacky: when it is on 50% which package is it on?
[02:54] <smacky> the install
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: you can set up small partitions on each for testing...  the tip for skipping the boot sector (or only) is also handy
[02:54] <squeechy> Seems bizzarre the Ubuntu community would let a daemon chew up 5-99% CPU without addressing it.
[02:54] <mantono> smacky: okey... press ctrl + alt + F1 and see if you can find out what package it hangs on.
[02:54] <demente> Hi
[02:55] <moi> Jack_Sparrow, not a bad idea, but have alreqady started the command now, so may as well leave it
[02:55] <demente> I'm having some trouble.
[02:55] <smacky> thanks i'll try that
[02:55] <mike-e> !easysource
[02:55] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:55] <Jack_Sparrow> smacky: there are some grub boot options to try if that does not work.  I can only assume you had the cd do a self test for errors and did not see any..
[02:55] <demente> I just added a new account, and I wish to switch to it.
[02:55] <mike-e> uhhm
[02:55] <Chris0r> i got an error when installing my usb wifi using ndis it says zd1211u: probe of 40201.0 failed with error 22, any ideas?
[02:55] <mike-e> i forgot if i'm using dapper, how do i check again? >=D
[02:56] <demente> However, although it is added to sudoers and all apppropriate groups, I have _no_ sound
[02:56] <demente> Other than system beep, I can't play music.
[02:56] <gnomefreak> mike-e: lsb_release -a
[02:56] <Jack_Sparrow> smacky: Some of the Grub Boot Options (F6) ide=nodma vga=normal nomce acpi=off pnpbios=off xdrvr=vesa xres=800x600 apm=off quiet
[02:56] <smacky> thanks it took off
[02:56] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[02:58] <Chris0r> im having problems installing my wireless so i can upgrade please help ffs:|
[02:58] <demente> Actually, how can I change my username in ubuntu?
[02:58] <demente> I wish to change what I login as, etc
[02:58] <Masticore> How can i fix this error? checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[02:58] <mike-e> Masticore : install the xml parser
[02:59] <Masticore> mike-e: how?
[02:59] <Chris0r> install XML::Parser in perl ppm or something
[02:59] <snoops> I don't know if this is the right room to ask this sort of question but here goes.. Package distribution in linux is a bit iffy I've found.. eg, compile yourself, use a deb, use an rpm, etc etc.. Thinking about the corporate world, if a company makesan application for linux, for its users, and only really wants a small collection of people using it (such as its customers), what're the options for packaging that so it's incredibly easy t
[02:59] <Chris0r> im having problems installing my wireless so i can upgrade please help ffs:|
[02:59] <mike-e> Masticore : cpan.org probably
[02:59] <Masticore> mike-e: cant I do it with apt-get ?
[03:00] <Chris0r> can some1 help me please:|
[03:00] <mike-e> Masticore : i doubt it, i ran into the same situation with something else and I had to do it from www.cpan.org's tarball or deb package
[03:00] <jrib> Masticore: install the libxml-parser-perl package
[03:00] <rsk> snoops: if i was a company i would provide the source, and binaries for all the distros. its not that hard you know :)
[03:00] <demente> Hello? Anyone?
[03:00] <demente> I wish to change my username...
[03:00] <Masticore> jrib: tnx
[03:01] <mike-e> ah there you go
[03:01] <jrib> demente: are you in the audio group?
[03:01] <snoops> rsk yeah.. but you're not guranteeing it to work are you? with deb's, rpm's etc.. dependancies, versions, etc being a problem
[03:01] <Chris_> !Thinkpad
[03:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about Thinkpad - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:01] <snoops> There are .run binaries or whatever which seem a bit different?
[03:01] <robertj> Not enough random bytes available.  <- what's the best way to fix that remotely
[03:01] <Jack_Sparrow> snoops: If you are talking a commercial app, you would make a deb. not include the source and require a serial number or some other protection. But I really hate closed source
[03:01] <Chris_> !Radeon
[03:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about Radeon - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:01] <snoops> such as google earth?
[03:03] <Sebischn> hi! how do I tell KDevelop3 were to find the gtkmm specify headers ?
[03:03] <rsk> snoops: well if im not a complete noob its not going to be a problem, doing packages wich work EVERY distro can also be done but that will be a huge binary also :)
[03:03] <demente> jrib, yes
[03:03] <jrib> demente: 'man usermod' to see how to change your username, you should update the user's home directory as well
[03:03] <Chris0r> can some1 help me please:|
[03:03] <Chris0r> can some1 help me please:|
[03:03] <Chris0r> :|
[03:03] <jrib> demente: are you still having audio problems?
[03:03] <rsk> :|
[03:03] <demente> yeah
[03:03] <Chris0r> im having problems installing my wireless so i can upgrade please help ffs:|
[03:03] <e-fonz> anyone know how to start the apache webserver?
[03:03] <snoops> rsk, but this kind of application wouldn't be for people like you, it'd be for the customers of that company.. say they provide some app which talks to a web service they provide etc
[03:03] <mike-e> anyone here good with resolving audio issues?
[03:03] <jrib> demente: it works with your other user though?
[03:03] <snoops> it's about ease of use, and such..
[03:03] <rsk> snoops: then just make the huge binary
[03:03] <roxlu> when I get a compile error with "cant find termcap/curses" do I need to install the curses-dev package?
[03:03] <Chris0r> FFS CAN SOMEONE HELPP ME
[03:03] <rsk> Chris0r: no
[03:03] <erUSUL> !ask Chris0r
[03:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about ask Chris0r - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:03] <jrib> !patience > Chris0r
[03:03] <Shinzetsu> Can someone help me on getting OpenGL?
[03:03] <erUSUL> !ask > Chris0r
[03:03] <erUSUL> !anyone
[03:03] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:04] <e-fonz> g
[03:04] <mike-e> Chris0r : what kind of wireless card?
[03:04] <Chris0r> well ive been asking for the last freaking 1hr
[03:04] <erUSUL> !caps > Chris0r
[03:04] <Chris0r> |:
[03:04] <demente> jrib, yes
[03:04] <Chris0r> its a zydas 1211
[03:04] <mike-e> pcmcia? what chipset
[03:04] <snoops> rsk, Jack_Sparrow I guess the question is more, is there some kind of packing system which just works.. I mean no matter the distro, you grab the package, double click it, and it grabs what it needs, installs, and away you go?
[03:04] <Jack_Sparrow> snoops: If we are talkng dedicated systems where youtell them which distro(s) to use and provide support it would work.  Providing support for all distros would be a nightmare
[03:04] <Chris0r> i installed it in ndis just still not appering
[03:04] <erUSUL> Chris0r: chip?
[03:04] <Chris0r> its USB
[03:04] <rsk> snoops: autopackage
[03:04] <Jack_Sparrow> snoops: No
[03:04] <Chris0r> zd1211b
[03:05] <jrib> demente: have you logged out and logged back in after adding the user to the 'audio' group?
[03:05] <mike-e> Chris0r : it's not being seen by ubuntu?
[03:05] <Chris0r> nope
[03:05] <Chris0r> well yes
[03:05] <Chris0r> ndis does
[03:05] <mike-e> do you have the right module added for it?
[03:05] <roxlu> when I get a compile error with "cant find termcap/curses" do I need to install the curses-dev package?
[03:05] <Chris0r> modprob ndiswrapper
[03:05] <snoops> how are things like google earth packaged? An installer with a binary.. but that binary seems to 'just work' regardless of distro?
[03:05] <Chris0r> ndiswrapper -m
[03:05] <YoussefAssad> to change locale for a user, can I just set LANGUAGE=foo_FOO in .bashrc?
[03:06] <tr00st> snoops, staticly compiling, I believe
[03:06] <e-fonz>  anyone know how to start the apache webserver? After upgrading to Dapper it doesn't automatically start up.
[03:06] <tr00st> snoops, runs slower overall, but should run on all distros
[03:06] <jlhenry> hi there :)
[03:06] <mike-e> what made you decide to use ndiswrapper?
[03:06] <Chris_> Anyone else experienced random freezes (fluxbox) on a IBM Thinkpad X24 and knows how to solve it?
[03:06] <demente> jrib, yeah, but I'll do so again.
[03:06] <Chris0r> well i didnt know how to install it mike-e
[03:06] <demente> (just to be sure)
[03:06] <demente> brb
[03:06] <snoops> right, so all the libraries it uses etc are taken and compiled inside the binary tr00st?
[03:06] <tr00st> snoops, that's my understanding of how it works
[03:07] <mike-e> you probably have to add a usb module of some sort, although i don't know which ones..ubuntu is a pain in the ass with wireless cards so if i have to use it i stick with orinoco gold cards =P
[03:07] <tr00st> I know that it's the same way a good few closed source games do it
[03:07] <Traker> none installed xgl on amd64?
[03:08] <mike-e> anyone familiar with getting sound blaster isa sound cards to work on ubuntu?
[03:08] <Chris0r> well i ran 2 commands depmod -a and ndiswrapper -m and then modprobe ndiswrapper...
[03:09] <snoops> tr00st it's a subject which feels very hazey to me on linux.. at the moment, because of all the choice, and that freedom, which is great, but it does make it daunting for organisions, programmers coming from a windows environment etc, to package their apps and get them out there in an easy to use fashion
[03:09] <mike-e> Chris0r what kind of wireless usb is it? prism?
[03:09] <Legolas> http://www.freshmp3s.tk
[03:09] <Legolas> http://www.freshmp3s.tk
[03:10] <Chris0r> huh?
[03:10] <mike-e> what chipset is your wireless device and what's the manufacturer called?
[03:10] <mike-e> cuz i found /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/prism2/prism2_usb.ko
[03:10] <red_Marvin> Do anyone know how to input international characters with ncursesw? (I can't find a getc() for wide characters)
[03:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Mike-e as of breezy they quit detecting ISA hardware from what I read
[03:11] <Jo4Cim> hi, i have a little problem with my internet connection. its so yesterday its worked perfect but today its very very slow up to 5min to open my startpage...i dont now what could have happend, on my other computer (winxp) works internet very good but not here.
[03:11] <tr00st> snoops, indeed, the easiest way of doing that would probably be a static compile... either that, or you could package a compiler and the source all together. but then again, most windows developers would probably not want to give their source away...
[03:11] <Chris0r> (mike-e): zydas
[03:11] <mike-e> Jack_Sparrow : that's unfortunate.
[03:11] <Chris0r> they have a linux driver
[03:11] <Chris0r> just i cant get them
[03:11] <Chris0r> xD
[03:11] <mike-e> why not
[03:11] <Chris0r> no internet:|
[03:11] <Jack_Sparrow> mike-e: Knoppix may still support it. It supports everything
[03:11] <mike-e> what the hell do you think you're doing now
[03:12] <Chris0r> windows..
[03:12] <mike-e> debian supports it
[03:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !language
[03:12] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:12] <ripp3r666> anything debian based is nice as far as support goes
[03:12] <Chris0r> how am i meant to copy it across...
[03:12] <mike-e> debian/gentoo/slackware/anything redhat supports it
[03:12] <ballball> I cant change screen resolution before installing/during install of ubuntu
[03:13] <Jack_Sparrow> mike-e: You can still get it to work. but the key is YOU get it to work..
[03:13] <mike-e> Chris0r : floppy? burn a cd?
[03:13] <ballball> Its kinda tricky to install with this resolution
[03:13] <mike-e> jack: well when i added the sb module i can hear the sound card initiate on startup
[03:13] <mike-e> but ubuntu doesn't see a sound card installed
[03:13] <Chris0r> waste a cd for less than 1mb:|
[03:13] <ripp3r666> mike-e > you having issues with wireless and sound?
[03:13] <Jack_Sparrow> mike-e: Did you unmute everyhting
[03:13] <snoops> tr00st well for my job I'm writing cold fusion and C#.net applications for work.. I've only recently I guess you could say fallen in love with the whole linux, opensource idealism. And the great thing in a way for me, is I see so many areas where I could improve it for others.. really make a difference, ya know? The problem of course is tackling that. I've been programming in windows for a bit over 3 years, and a lot of the way linux do
[03:13] <mike-e> Chris0r : then suffer
[03:14] <Jack_Sparrow> mike-e: alsa mixer ?
[03:14] <YoussefAssad> snoops: trying for a pulitzer? :)
[03:14] <mike-e> jack: i have alsa installed
[03:14] <tr00st> snoops, and that cut off at "and a lot of the way linux d"
[03:14] <snoops> ah.. does it, while great, is very difficult to make what you're wanting to create, just work, for everyone
[03:15] <Jack_Sparrow> mike-e: look for the mixer and make sure everything is unmuted
[03:15] <tr00st> indeed
[03:15] <moi> Jack_Sparrow: lol at your 51st pm
[03:15] <Jack_Sparrow> :0
[03:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Darn, I just spewed coffee
[03:16] <moi> ha!
[03:16] <mike-e> jack: when i move the volume control button down and up i can hear the linenoise going up and down, nothing's muted
[03:16] <tr00st> snoops, however, the other good thing about the "way linux does things" is that you can usually find people willing to help you get it out to as many people as possible.
[03:16] <snoops> statically compiling things, while gets the job done, doesn't feel elegant or a proper solution in the slightest
[03:16] <snoops> tr00st yep, the community is amazing
[03:17] <moi> Jack_Sparrow: will dd spew a report when finished or should I just keep watching system monitor to see when its done?
[03:17] <mike-e> ripp3r666 : no i'm having trouble with ubuntu's infidelity to primitive hardware
[03:17] <tr00st> well, static compile is pretty much the way windows does things...
[03:17] <tr00st> as far as I know, anyway
[03:17] <iratik> Anyone know an appropriate channel for talking about smtp courier/postfix setups?
[03:17] <snoops> hmm not really..
[03:17] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: it will tell you total bytes transfered when done
[03:18] <snoops> so it seems like autopackage is the thing trying to fill the void - to make it easier to distribute?
[03:18] <mike-e> and because people are too lazy to install dependencies
[03:18] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: If I remember, you can even pipe the report to a file.
[03:19] <moi> Jack_Sparrow: and when its done and have tested it, is there a quick way to blank the partition and file tables on the faulty drive?
[03:19] <sumedh_123> hi
[03:19] <doraemon81> i try to perform mounting on my windows partition
[03:19] <sumedh_123> i am a newbee in linux installing ubuntu
[03:19] <doraemon81>  sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt
[03:20] <doraemon81> however, when i try to copy something through sudo
[03:20] <sumedh_123> just wana ask grub is default boo loader na
[03:20] <tr00st> indeed, should help to get more users able to use linux with a system like that in place
[03:20] <doraemon81> i get complain
[03:20] <doraemon81> cp: cannot create regular file `/mnt/bath[rv\347%89%88] .part1.rar': Read-only file system
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: depends on the level of security you want, but near the end of the first page of help I think was the command and discussion about how clean it makes it
[03:20] <horrork> Hello.
[03:20] <doraemon81> when i sudo ls -al /
[03:20] <doraemon81> i realize my /mnt is always read only
[03:20] <doraemon81> dr-x------   1 root root  4096 2006-08-09 00:59 mnt
[03:20] <YoussefAssad> draconius: man ls
[03:20] <horrork> I need help resize my logical partition:
[03:20] <horrork> Is this right:
[03:21] <Jack_Sparrow> sumedh_123: Yes grub is the default boot loader
[03:21] <snoops> tr00st hmm yeah, it just leaps out at me as one reason why companies might not be embracing opensource and whatnot.. telling their customers to compile it is all very nice, but realistically it's a nightmare
[03:21] <YoussefAssad> draconius: sorry, wasn't for you
[03:21] <horrork> # lvextend -L+1G /dev/hda6
[03:21] <ucordes> hi there
[03:21] <moi> sumedh_123: do you want grub to load windows as defult?
[03:21] <Jack_Sparrow> horrork: Use gparted..
[03:22] <ucordes> how can i set the standart application for a specific file type?`
[03:22] <Captan_Jack_Spar> thanks jack
[03:22] <horrork> Jack_Sparrow, do I HAVE to?
[03:22] <jrib> !defaultapp > ucordes
[03:22] <ucordes> thx
[03:22] <Jack_Sparrow> No... I wont twist your arm..
[03:22] <moi> Captan_Jack_Spar: are you wanting to load windows as the default or somthing?
[03:22] <horrork> So lvm doesn't work?
[03:22] <moi> dam it
[03:23] <moi> stop changing yuor dam name! lol
[03:23] <tr00st> snoops, that's something I find quite strange... at least with the better written software, I've found that compiling it has never been a great issue. it's something that could probably be completely automated too
[03:23] <ucordes> jrib: will the file symbols change to the associated application after reboot?
[03:23] <mike-e> Sumedh : what's the command to test sound output?
[03:24] <smacky> well after nine hours i got a desktop..Yahooooooooooo
[03:24] <Sumedh> i req al preerequist take care list before installing linux or an forum link reg it
[03:24] <jrib> ucordes: the icons for an application are set by the icon set you are using in system > preferences > themes
[03:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Wow, sun just came up
[03:24] <Jack_Sparrow> smacky: Well done
[03:25] <mike-e> jack: whats the command to test audio output?
[03:25] <Jack_Sparrow> I just run an app
[03:25] <mike-e> bah where's seveas when you need him
[03:26] <Sumedh> thanks forr all the help all of u have rendered to mee thanks for the great jobe done
[03:26] <Chris_> mike-e: cat file.wav > /dev/audio ?
[03:27] <Masticore> Im using gnome-bluetooth, I can recive files but I cant send. I dont have this option in rightclick: http://usefulinc.com/software/gnome-bluetooth/nautilus-send.png
[03:28] <snoops> tr00st I guess I'm just cyinical when I try to compile a piece of software and it gives me a cryptic error on line 13 while trying to link some library.. a user shouldn't have to see it. Hell I don't want to see it as a programmer
[03:28] <mike-e> thanks chris
[03:28] <mike-e> hmm i get sound but it's garbled
[03:29] <Jack_Sparrow> NOt bad for a timex sinclair
[03:30] <Chris_> mike-e: sorry, I'm no native-speaker, what means garbled?
[03:30] <AngryElf_> i've got the "put display to sleep when inactive for 30 minutes" set....yet it never turns off the screen -- am i missing something?
[03:30] <mike-e> chris: distorted
[03:31] <Chris_> mike-e: could be related to the "cat" command, at least we know you have sound, which means your modules are in place
[03:32] <mike-e> lol i just installed vlc and vlc is playing mp3s.
[03:32] <mike-e> this is wacky
[03:32] <Chris0r> !upgrade
[03:32] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[03:32] <squeechy> snoops: A good PC and dev platform will call for both dynamic and static linking to be commonly used. The former for system libraries, and the latter for most of the extra stuff.
[03:33] <rixxon> when will there be a time-travel package? i want to travel to october and taste that holy edgy stuff
[03:33] <redblades> Okay, hi. I just changed my username, but I also want to change the path to my home directory, but I don't know how, even after reading man usermod!
[03:33] <ardchoille> rixxon: lol
[03:33] <squeechy> But the problem with "Linux" is that you have to treat almost everything (that's useful to an app developer) as 'extra' stuff because the LSB platform is so bare-bones.
[03:33] <Chris_> mike-e: ok, than its definetly related to alsa (or whatever you use) try to configure your favourite app to use the same thing than VLC
[03:33] <squeechy> Linux distros vary wildly in terms of what 'extra' stuff they include.
[03:35] <redblades> I think the command is >usermod -dm username /home/username
[03:35] <Chris0r> how do i start the ssh server?
[03:35] <moi> wheres he best place to learn howto complie software?
[03:35] <sp0n9e> has anyone experienced dpkg errors on amd64 server release?
[03:35] <charlesherdt> Chris0r: /etc/init.d/ssh start
[03:35] <jrib> Chris0r: have you installed openssh-server already?
[03:36] <sp0n9e> moi: what type of software?
[03:36] <mike-e> cris: xmms is set for alsa, when i double click on an mp3 it comes up saying no sound card installed
[03:36] <snoops> a 'linux user desktop' specification I guess would need to be established, which says that the following pieces of software will be installed, and if a distro meets those reqs then it gets the 'seal of approval'
[03:36] <geokok> Hi. How can I run glxgears and see the frames I get?
[03:36] <Chris0r> charlesherdt yes
[03:36] <moi> sp0n9e: any kind for this amd64 ver of ubuntu
[03:36] <snoops> geokok I'm pretty sure it's glxgears --printfps
[03:36] <snoops> or just -printfps
[03:36] <Masticore> Im using gnome-bluetooth, I can recive files but I cant send. I dont have this option in rightclick: http://usefulinc.com/software/gnome-bluetooth/nautilus-send.png How do I fix this?
[03:37] <sp0n9e> moi: check the documentation of whatever you download, usually make && make install are all you need, but sometimes there's a ./configure with options.
[03:37] <moi> sp0n9e: as lots of software is prebuilt for i386, but not amd643
[03:37] <charlesherdt> Chris0r: if it doesn't work, you should check if you have ssh server installed. You can do that through apt-get or the Add Software tool
[03:37] <moi> sp0n9e: thanks
[03:37] <geokok> what would be a good score for an ati x700 mobile?
[03:37] <moi> sp0n9e: am still very much a linux noob
[03:37] <Chris0r> charlesherdt i just installed i need to start it
[03:38] <Chris_> mike-e: soryy if you 've gone thru this before - what happens if you open a mp3 file with xmms?
[03:38] <Chris0r> charlesherdt nvm it is started
[03:38] <Chris0r> :
[03:38] <sp0n9e> i'm getting all types of invalid/corrupted kernels/packages on my cd, yet the checksum checks out
[03:38] <snoops> geokok umm around or over 10k I guess
[03:38] <moi> sp0n9e: but still, have thrown myself in at the deep end again
[03:38] <geokok> I am getting around 4700 fps........
[03:38] <iratik> I need to test an smtp, courier, postfix setup - (using the ISP Config setup) Whats the best way to do this?
[03:38] <acojlo> hi, my usplash procedure is broken
[03:38] <snoops> sounds a bit low, but probably because of ati's drivers
[03:38] <acojlo> just few seconds before gdm shown it goes to text mode
[03:39] <iratik> Is there a channel for hosting/servers
[03:39] <charlesherdt> Chris0r: when you install it through apt or the graphical software installer tool, it is automatically started, and it will be started every time you boot. If you got that far, it should be working. Try ssh localhost to see if its working.
[03:40] <geokok> I am a bit confused about the drivers I have installed. I installed them through the "restricted modules" repo. So do I have the proprietary drivers or not?
[03:40] <Chris0r> how do i install kde
[03:40] <Chris0r> !kde
[03:40] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[03:40] <acojlo> can I opt between acpi-utils and acpid?
[03:40] <Chris_> !fluxbox
[03:40] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox
[03:41] <acojlo> !acpid
[03:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about acpid - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:42] <charlesherdt> anyone knows if there is a channel for brazilian users of Ubuntu? Or else... how to properly setup the cedilla with us-international keyboards? I've already set it up with gnome, and there it works ok. I am, however, still having trouble in openoffice and kde apps.
[03:42] <sladen> acojlo: no, acpi-support depends on acpid!
[03:42] <ardchoille> Chris_: Installing the kubuntu-desktop will get you the kde desktop. kubuntu-desktop is a meta package that will bring in the required kde deps.
[03:42] <sladen> charlesherdt: #ubuntu-br
[03:42] <acojlo> what about hdparm if I use pute SATA HD with only primary paritions?
[03:42] <acojlo> it's on laptop
[03:43] <sladen> acojlo: I can't understand your question, could you ask it in a different way to help me understand what you are trying to do?
[03:43] <Jo4Cim> 
[03:43] <ompaul> english please
[03:44] <acojlo> sladen, I try to optimise boot procedure. I have sata and I know that hdparm is not so powerfull with sata drives. So I want to exclude everything not needed during boot
[03:44] <sladen> acojlo: I think you're probably looking in the wrong areas then :)
[03:45] <acojlo> sladen, you are speaking about initng?
[03:45] <sladen> acojlo: the dapper boot process is fairly well optimised already
[03:45] <sladen> acojlo: eg, see when gdm is started compared to other distros
[03:46] <Chris_> Anyone else experienced lock-ups with an ati radeon mobility and knows how to solve it?
[03:46] <acojlo> gdm is much faster than kdm
[03:47] <sladen> Chris_: whether or not other people are, if you're getting locks-ups with ati, then that is a bug and should be reported:  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+filebug
[03:48] <finalbeta> I'm having a really weird problem on a laptop. At some point the interface stops responding, I can move the mouse, but can't interact with the interface anymore. sound familiar?
[03:48] <mrichman> How do I add a Trash icon to my desktop?
[03:48] <sladen> finalbeta: please file a bug report, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+filebug
[03:48] <timalot> mrichman: it;s in the preferences somewhere
[03:49] <sladen> finalbeta: it's probably specific to your model of laptop
[03:49] <finalbeta> sladen, the problem is that I can't really provide information, I have no idea why it happens
[03:49] <Jack_Sparrow> acojlo: Some of the Grub Boot Options ide=nodma vga=normal nomce acpi=off pnpbios=off xdrvr=vesa xres=800x600 apm=off quiet
[03:49] <Chris_> slade: I'm not 100% sure that it really is related to my ATI card - anyhow I bookmarked the mentioned page (in case I can duplicate it)
[03:49] <sladen> mrichman: bottom-right of your screen is the trash icon
[03:49] <Jack_Sparrow> finalbeta: What is the model of that lappy
[03:49] <sladen> Chris_: exact, ta
[03:50] <mrichman> sladen: yes, but i want one on the desktop too
[03:50] <visik7> where is documented the internals of live-cd installer ?
[03:50] <Darkhack> For the longest time I didn't exactly know why Ubuntu was so popular.  It didn't seem to have anything special... now I know.  Its the community.  I asked a very simple question in #debian and instantly got marked as a troll.
[03:50] <Jack_Sparrow> 6 months if I remember but it is documented
[03:50] <visik7> Darkhack: not only the community
[03:50] <timalot> they are too 31337
[03:51] <mordof> does anyone know how the intel 64 bit ubuntu version is? stability/wireless wise and the ability to run on a dual core? am looking to install it on my laptop but don't want to go ahead and do it if it isn't stable
[03:51] <visik7> take the best from debian and make it easyer to get a decent desktop
[03:51] <Ych> i had the amd64 version installed recently
[03:51] <Ych> doesn't seem to have enough support
[03:51] <Ych> now im content with 32-bit
[03:52] <kaot> question: how trivial is it to switch from gnome to kde in synaptic?  i.e. what are the odds of severe b0rkage?
[03:52] <visik7> mordof: depends on your hardware and your needs rememer that everything isn't opensource probably will not run smoothly
[03:52] <cafuego> mordof: SHould be fine, but don't expect easy support for flash/java in browser.
[03:52] <finalbeta> Jack_Sparrow, Dell inspiron 8200, with a mobility radeon ****
[03:52] <cafuego> mordof: If you have an ati gfx card, stick with 32bit.
[03:52] <mordof> i have intel 950 onboard
[03:53] <cafuego> that'll be fine then
[03:53] <mordof> i'm on the Aspire 5612WLMi
[03:53] <taser> I'm having trouble getting audio to work when playing a video. Can anyone point me to any resources I can use to solve this?
[03:53] <visik7> mordof: intel had opensource some driver last night
[03:53] <Jack_Sparrow> !alsa
[03:53] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[03:53] <Darkhack> taser, does audio work at all for you or is does it just not work in Videos?
[03:53] <mordof> is the wireless network problem taken care of? i know the 32 bit version didn't have very good support for it
[03:54] <Jack_Sparrow> mordof: the short answer.. no
[03:54] <Darkhack> mordof, I think Dapper has ndiswrapper on the CD, but I'm not sure.
[03:54] <taser> Darkhack: Just videos.
[03:54] <mordof> hmmm
[03:54] <mordof> in that case i will stick with windows until it becomes more stable to work with my purposes
[03:55] <Darkhack> taser: try configuring your player.  Go into the settings and configure audio.  Try setting it to either aRts or ALSA.
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> mordof: It isnt a problem with Linux, it is an issue of the hardware mfg
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> mordof: You can always get supported hardware.
[03:55] <magus_x> hey
[03:55] <tuxub> kaot, i have done it in the past and had no problems
[03:55] <magus_x> how can i execute a .bin?
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> magus_x: as in googleearth?
[03:55] <evilghost> magus_x:  chmod +x [name of bin file] 
[03:56] <evilghost> magus_x:  ./[name of bin file] 
[03:56] <magus_x> oh
[03:56] <magus_x> forget
[03:56] <Darkhack> magus_x: cd into the directory and type  "./file.bin"
[03:56] <magus_x> was a permission problem
[03:56] <magus_x> my fault
[03:56] <magus_x> =p
[03:56] <tuxub> kaot, the only problem is the "usual kde problem": apps just crash randomly...
[03:56] <tuxub> kaot, AFAIK gnome is much more stable than kde
[03:56] <Jack_Sparrow> agreed
[03:56] <tuxub> kaot, it was the main reason for not coming to linux before
[03:56] <smacky> amen
[03:57] <tuxub> and gnome was lacking a bit behind in feature no so long ago
[03:57] <Jack_Sparrow> I personally like KDE but I just could not keep it running
[03:57] <tuxub> but now is getting in the right direction
[03:57] <nalpha> guys how to copy a folder using ftp in console? or what i've to use?
[03:58] <Aphex_Twin> what command opens the application called "Eye of GNOME" ?
[03:58] <Aphex_Twin> the default image viewer
[03:58] <mordof> Jack_Sparrow, nah i can't, i'm looking to use it on my laptop
[03:58] <tuxub> nalpha, use SCP: scp /my/local/file remote_user@remote.machine:/remote/folder
[03:58] <Samuli^> Aphex_Twin, I'm thinking eog.
[03:58] <kaot> tuxub: yeah I used kde for quite some time, once they went to 3.0 they had gnome beat hands-down for a while there, was kind of missing it.
[03:58] <kaot> tuxub: just want to make sure that switching over is gonna be simple and not, you know, hose my whole X setup.
[03:58] <Aphex_Twin> Samuli^: thanks
[03:59] <nalpha> oh.. thanx alot
[03:59] <Jack_Sparrow> mordof: I dropped a pcmcia card into my lappys (3) and they love Linux now
[03:59] <visik7> !ubiquity
[03:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubiquity - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:59] <tuxub> kaot, give it a shot... I had no problems...
[04:00] <kaot> tuxub: cool thanks
[04:00] <tuxub> i think you have to sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:01] <Jack_Sparrow> tuxub: That will not make it KDE it just brings in the Kubuntu apps correct?
[04:01] <tuxub> no
[04:01] <Jack_Sparrow> tuxub: It still looks like Ubuntu/gnome when done
[04:01] <tuxub> it will install you KDE plus the default KDE apps on kubuntu
[04:01] <krimzon> hm... whats the graphical version of sudo called?
[04:01] <krimzon> i can no longer find it
[04:02] <tuxub> krimzon, gksudo i think
[04:02] <nalpha> still can't do you know gui for ftp??
[04:02] <krimzon> also what's the run command called?
[04:02] <Jack_Sparrow> gksudo
[04:02] <ardchoille> Jack_Sparrow: kubuntu-desktop brings in the kde desktop itself, the kde styles, themes, apps, control centre, etc.
[04:02] <tuxub> you have to logout
[04:02] <tuxub> and select kde on gdm ;)
[04:03] <nalpha> what;s ftp gui software??
[04:03] <Jack_Sparrow> ardchoille: how do you get the kde look after that.. I just ended up with the kubuntu apps and no kde
[04:03] <tuxub> nalioth, gFTP
[04:03] <rdemanow> how do I see what fonts are available to me and what their names are so I can put them in commands like "xterm -fn lucidasanstypewriter-10"?
[04:03] <YoussefAssad> xlsfonts
[04:03] <YoussefAssad> or, better, xfontsel
[04:03] <tuxub> Jack_Sparrow, logout, gdm
[04:03] <ardchoille> Jack_Sparrow: I installed it and had to choose kde when I logged in at gdm
[04:04] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[04:04] <rdemanow> xfontsel gives me really wierd names that the -fn switch doesn't recognize
[04:04] <Jack_Sparrow> good to know..
[04:04] <mordof> Jack_Sparrow, what cards would you get to replace the built-in stuff to make it work good?
[04:05] <nalpha> already installed how to run gftp??
[04:05] <mvirkkil> How do I start gnome-terminal from a script so that it uses the ISO-8859-1 character encoding? Changing it from the menu works, but because I don't have isolocales set up, I can't just LC_ALL=ISO...
[04:05] <YoussefAssad> rdemanow: try using a font which has the word "mono" in its name
[04:05] <tuxub> nalpha, use the main menu
[04:05] <tuxub> internet, gftp
[04:05] <nalpha> oh... thanx lol
[04:05] <tuxub> or alt+f2, gftp, enter
[04:06] <tuxub> mvirkkil, the damn main problem of ubuntu (for me) -> UTF8 ISO8859 problems
[04:06] <tuxub> my servers are all debian and use iso8859
[04:06] <tuxub> my desktop is ubuntu
[04:06] <tuxub> it's a real pain...
[04:08] <Chris_> how do I get rid off the "graphical" thing while my machine is booting (ubuntu logo on the top, status bar in *yikes* brown)
[04:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardware > mordof
[04:08] <YoussefAssad> yea, brown is rapidly becoming a bane
[04:08] <Jack_Sparrow> looking here would be a good start
[04:09] <mordof> ty
[04:09] <ardchoille> Chris_: You can remove the "splash" word from the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:09] <mordof> didn't know they had that listed
[04:09] <Pirate-King> Im a newbee can you use skype on ubuntu?
[04:09] <frogzoo> Chris_: I think, remove the 'splash' option in /boot/grub/menu.lst & 'sudo update-grub'
[04:09] <Dravas> What if I wanna get another HD and install Windows on it as a NTFS partition
[04:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Pirate-King: yes
[04:09] <Pirate-King> thank you
[04:09] <Dravas> Can I read it in Ubuntu
[04:09] <Chris_> ardchoille: is this related to gfxboot?
[04:10] <b_> how the heck do i play mpg mpeg avi asf wmv files
[04:10] <ardchoille> !ntfs
[04:10] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[04:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub > Dravas
[04:10] <Pirate-King> can you use an ipod with ubuntu?
[04:10] <b_> lol i would like to know tha ttoo
[04:10] <jbroome> yes
[04:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Dravas: XP almost insists on being partition one of drive one
[04:10] <b_> wait you can
[04:10] <frogzoo> Dravas: might be a better idea to create an ext3 partition for your shared data, & access it from doze with ext2fsd
[04:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Pirate-King: yes
[04:11] <frogzoo> !ipod
[04:11] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[04:11] <b_> i though xp has ntfs drives
[04:11] <miles_> eh...
[04:11] <miles_> good morning all.
[04:11] <Pirate-King> have to change the ipod to podzilla?
[04:11] <jbroome> no
[04:11] <Urden> http://digg.com/politics/U_S_Seeks_To_Play_God_Through_Controlling_Food_World_Production
[04:11] <kikko> what is the correct ubuntu way to load  module that isn't loaded by default on system startup?
[04:11] <Jack_Sparrow> xp wants ntfs but can use fat32
[04:11] <miles> hehe.
[04:11] <Jack_Sparrow> linux can read ntfs with no problems
[04:11] <Darkhack> kikko: you can just do "modprobe nameOfModule"
[04:11] <miles> especially ubuntu
[04:12] <Urden> writing is what we realy need tho
[04:12] <miles> it works right out of the box.
[04:12] <frogzoo> kikko: add to /etc/modules or /etc/modprobe.d/
[04:12] <miles> Ahh...
[04:12] <miles> I see.
[04:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Urden: there is experimental write to ntfs but NOT a good idea
[04:12] <miles> anyone know of a good rar/7zip program for ubuntu?
[04:12] <Urden> yeah
[04:12] <lsl23> How do I print to a cups printer from the command line and CHOOSE the printer I want to print to.  Is there a way to say which queue?
[04:12] <Urden> i know
[04:12] <mordof> Jack_Sparrow, alright so apparently it picks up the hardware but gnome doesn't see it... aside from that the other things are minor
[04:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Urden: Better to setup xp on fat32
[04:12] <mordof> (for my wireless)
[04:12] <Urden> we need robust write support tho
[04:12] <tuxub> miles, rar exists for linux (command line only)
[04:12] <Urden> Jack_Sparrow, yeah...
[04:12] <YoussefAssad> Urden: erm, yea. Nice link, especially given the nick of the person who submitted it to digg
[04:12] <kikko> thanks frogzoo
[04:13] <miles> tuxub: password and all?
[04:13] <Darkhack> quick question: Is it safe to install/use a vanilla kernel or does Ubuntu have some special premade kernels with patches and stuff?
[04:13] <frogzoo> lsl23: lp -d PRINTER
[04:13] <b_> can someone tell me how to play mpeg files
[04:13] <Chousuke> Darkhack: it should work.
[04:13] <Chousuke> Darkhack: Using ubuntu kernels is recommended though.
[04:13] <Darkhack> b_ you might need to install some extra codecs.  Take a look at EasyUbuntu.
[04:13] <ardchoille> !restricted > b_
[04:13] <tck> does anyone else have problems installing dapper on Inspiron 1300 ?
[04:13] <miles> b_: you have to get the gstreamer codecs
[04:13] <Urden> YoussefAssad, huh?
[04:13] <b_> holy crap
[04:13] <Chris_> b_: try vlc or mplayer or xine
[04:13] <b_> beep beep beep beep beep
[04:13] <Jack_Sparrow> !restricted > b_
[04:13] <b_> lol
[04:14] <Urden> vlc rocks
[04:14] <tuxub> miles, haven't tried those features but i supose they will work too
[04:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Darkhack: Not easyubuntu...
[04:14] <miles> hmmm
[04:14] <Darkhack> I thought EasyUbuntu included the proper codecs?
[04:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Darkhack: We want them to LIKE Ubuntu not crash it
[04:14] <tuxub> Darkhack, what is EasyUbuntu???
[04:15] <miles> tuxub: nothing else? I'm looking for a GUI of somesort
[04:15] <Jack_Sparrow> !easyubuntu
[04:15] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[04:15] <Jack_Sparrow> !automatix
[04:15] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[04:15] <tuxub> miles, i told you it was command line :P for rar3 I don't know any, sorry
[04:15] <tuxub> i know automatix... is automatix=easyubuntu? ???
[04:15] <ardchoille> It's much better to learn how to install this stuff on your own. Then you will have a better understanding of how to fix things should something happen.
[04:16] <Jack_Sparrow> tuxub:  different
[04:16] <tuxub> Jack_Sparrow, better, worse? how different?
[04:16] <frogzoo> Darkhack: ubuntu patches the kernel, vanilla would obviously be unsupported
[04:16] <Jack_Sparrow> tuxub: After the first crash and restore I use neither
[04:17] <neutrinomass> tuxub: None is recommended ....
[04:18] <tuxub> lolol
[04:18] <Jack_Sparrow> tuxub: Feel free to try both, just dont come crying when it breaks
[04:18] <miles> tuxub: Yeah, I know....I'm just a "pretty" kinda guy.
[04:18] <tuxub> i use automatix in a few machines and haven't got a problem with any!!!
[04:18] <ardchoille> !worksforme
[04:18] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[04:19] <b_> sweet you can accses itunes music store on linux SWEETTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
[04:19] <miles> hehe
[04:19] <b_> omg its about time
[04:19] <Jack_Sparrow> tuxub: I can jump off the roof and not get hurt...
[04:19] <magus_x> lol
[04:19] <tuxub> Jack_Sparrow, i got the point ;)
[04:19] <ardchoille> Jack_Sparrow: I can't
[04:19] <b_> i can jump out of the plain and the fall won;t kill me
[04:20] <Jack_Sparrow> tuxub: oH DID i FORGET TO MENTION i HAVE A POOL :)
[04:20] <b_> plane lol
[04:20] <tuxub> LOL
[04:20] <ShadowRocker> hello....how do i get and install themes to Ubuntu??
[04:20] <Jack_Sparrow> tuxub: Sorry for the caps people
[04:20] <miles> HAHA
[04:20] <miles> plain
[04:20] <magus_x> lol
[04:20] <mordof> Jack_Sparrow, so does that mean i have to buy a pcmcia wireless card?
[04:20] <b_> lol OPPPS
[04:21] <Jack_Sparrow> ShadowRocker: drag and drop onto the theme manager...
[04:21] <mordof> in order to use ubuntu
[04:21] <moi> is there any way to run windows within linux?
[04:21] <magus_x> yup
[04:21] <magus_x> no
[04:21] <magus_x> Lol
[04:21] <magus_x> moi: yes
[04:21] <moi> :D
[04:21] <b_> how?>??
[04:21] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: You are no longer my friend
[04:21] <magus_x> moi, : you should resize one partition
[04:21] <miles> ShadowRocker: Ubuntu is for uber leet hackers such as yourself, you need no themes! They are merely eye-candy for fools!
[04:21] <lostsync> ShadowRocker, sudo apt-get install gnome-art, then run Art Manager from the System->Preferences menu
[04:21] <tuxub> Jack_Sparrow, ;) its cool. at least we can smile here... it was good to do that in the general channels around here (speccialy linux related)...
[04:21] <Jack_Sparrow> ShadowRocker: No need to unpack the tar...
[04:21] <ShadowRocker> ok thanks...Jack......and where can i get them?
[04:21] <tuxub> moi, vmware for example
[04:21] <Darkhack> moi, You can use virtualization software like Qemu or VMware Player
[04:21] <ardchoille> ShadowRocker: Find some themes you like: http://www.gnome-look.org/  or  http://art.gnome.org/ . Then use System -> Preferences -> Theme to install/change them.
[04:21] <Jack_Sparrow> gnome-look.org
[04:22] <tuxub> moi, vmware is comercial software
[04:22] <lostsync> Art Manager will interface with gnome-look.org and auto-download/install any theme you pick
[04:22] <moi> Jack_Sparrow lol, ahhh cmon bro, I never want to boot windows again, but since I have to for work, it would be nice to do it within ubuntu
[04:22] <Darkhack> tuxub: VMware Player is free (but closed source)
[04:22] <b_> is their any packages that can virutalize windows from ubuntu repositories rather then using commercial apps
[04:22] <tuxub> Darkhack, i know that. but you have to "make" the image first using the paid version or get one
[04:22] <b_> or just vmware
[04:23] <ShadowRocker> Thankls People..  :-)
[04:23] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: np, I use (hiding head in shame) XP for work as well
[04:23] <Darkhack> tuxub: I wrote a piece of software that can make images for free from any ISO and its open source.  It only runs on Windows right now though but I plan on porting it.  http://www.smnw.com/staff/nick/vmdiskcreator
[04:23] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: Only because they pay me
[04:23] <tuxub> Jack_Sparrow, thank god I left that piece of crap at work...
[04:23] <moi> Jack_Sparrow: its ok man, we understand, gimmi a hug
[04:24] <lostsync> these days i luckily only have to use XP when i'm fixing someone's computer :)
[04:24] <tuxub> LOLOL
[04:24] <Jack_Sparrow> ShadowRocker: If you need help with those themes just ask
[04:24] <Pirate-King> you can use fluxbox with ubuntu correct?
[04:24] <Jack_Sparrow> lostsync: Same here..
[04:24] <elkbuntu> lostsync, of course, by fixing you mean 'putting the ubuntu cd into their cd drive' right?
[04:24] <CheetahMk2> Hm... I think I found a bug with the Xorg-DRI driver. It says this in Xorg.0.log: Detected total video RAM=32mb, accessible=64mb, PCI BAR=128mb. Is that even right? The video card only has 32mb dedicated!
[04:24] <Darkhack> yes Priate-King, you just need to "apt-get install fluxbox"
[04:24] <moi> what is the cost of vmware 10's or 100's of $?
[04:24] <tuxub> dark, looks great man :) when for the linux version?
[04:25] <Jack_Sparrow> elkbuntu: one of many tools
[04:25] <Pirate-King> I downloaded the live cd not much for looks inthere
[04:25] <lostsync> elkbuntu, i wish.  i've been trying hard to convert people but they're all scared
[04:25] <Darkhack> I'm not sure tuxub.  I'll work on it though.
[04:25] <Chris_> moi: you also can try bochs
[04:25] <moi> is it free?
[04:25] <lostsync> elkbuntu, my parents let me turn their old pc into an ubuntu box once they got a new laptop but now they have the laptop so they dont want to sit at the desk anymore
[04:25] <tuxub> Chris_, Its too slow, or am i wrong?
[04:25] <Chris_> moi: yep, its free oss
[04:25] <leonel> Dapper  6.06.1  Released  ..
[04:25] <tuxub> moi, it is free...
[04:26] <moi> but slow?
[04:26] <elkbuntu> people are wimps. just do it and tell them they'll like it or else :P
[04:26] <lostsync> elkbuntu, i guess i should start keeping a livecd in my bag at all times eh? hehe
[04:26] <elkbuntu> indeed
[04:26] <tuxub> moi, my experiences were very very very slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[04:26] <Chris_> tuxub: works here for several os emulations, but on server hardware
[04:26] <miles> okay
[04:26] <elkbuntu> and we shold take this thread of discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:26] <miles> do we have any sound EXPERTS here.
[04:27] <miles> I've tried everything to get my sound working.
[04:27] <Jack_Sparrow> lostsync: I put dual boot on just about everything I do for people, I just edit the grub to deafult to windows and tell them when they hose up XP they can still get on the internet with this..
[04:27] <moi> miles: am no expert but heading that way
[04:27] <miles> okay
[04:28] <moi> miles: so shoot
[04:28] <lostsync> Jack_Sparrow,  right on, not a bad idea
[04:28] <miles> I have a via8237 chip, Ubuntu sees it, everything APPEARS to be fine, but I get no sound
[04:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Anyone need help...  Aside from MIles and his ISA sound card...
[04:28] <moi> Jack_Sparrow: good idea m8, will use that ploy myself, ta
[04:29] <moi> ISA LOL
[04:29] <squeechy> !easybuntu
[04:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about easybuntu - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:29] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: almost any computer has 5 gigs to spare.
[04:29] <moi> amen
[04:29] <elkbuntu> !easyubuntu > squeechy
[04:29] <Jack_Sparrow> !easyUbuntu
[04:29] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[04:29] <miles> it's not isa, it's builtin to the mobo
[04:29] <Jack_Sparrow> AH
[04:29] <moi> miles: ok man, whats your problem?
[04:30] <miles> no sound
[04:30] <moi> *sigh*
[04:30] <moi> anything else?
[04:30] <miles> nope
[04:30] <miles> it all works
[04:30] <moi> k
[04:30] <miles> you wan't to VNC?
[04:30] <miles> Take a look?
[04:30] <moi> so, what disro, motherboard, and cpu are you using?
[04:30] <moi> i386, amd64?
[04:31] <moi> please giev as much hardware info as poss
[04:31] <miles> Dapper Drake, i386, Soyo KT600
[04:31] <Jack_Sparrow> mike-e  have you read this  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=46555
[04:32] <miles> 256MB RAM, builtin Audio
[04:32] <Jack_Sparrow> or this http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=via8233
[04:32] <squeechy> screen -d -m ./boinc
[04:32] <moi> miles: ok, you have tryed searching the forums already I take it?
[04:32] <J-_> i deleted my trash can from a panel, where is it stored?
[04:33] <Dimensions> hi i want to scan my mobile fone via hcitool scan is there any way i can get information of a set like if its nokia samsung etc even if one changes their mobile name
[04:33] <miles> yeah
[04:33] <Jack_Sparrow> J-_: gconf-editor might help
[04:33] <miles> I've been through all of that stuff.
[04:34] <J-_> thanks
[04:34] <moi> good, just checking, does drake try to use any driver so far? if so oss or alsa?
[04:34] <Dimensions> Jack_Sparrow:  ?
[04:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Yes
[04:35] <miles> yeah
[04:35] <miles> all drivers load.
[04:35] <Jack_Sparrow> No I dont do phones sorry
[04:35] <ardchoille> J-_: The item you deleted from the panel is just an applet. You can right-click the panel, choose Add to panel, look for the trash applet in there and drag it back to the panel.
[04:35] <miles> ALSA shows the correct card
[04:35] <rixxon> can you play q3 or ut in linux (ubuntu)? would they lag brutally in wine?
[04:35] <rsk> rixxon: there is native q3 in linux
[04:36] <rsk> rixxon: no need for wine
[04:36] <Jack_Sparrow> rixxon: Please dont Wine
[04:36] <rixxon> rsk, is it free?
[04:36] <rsk> rixxon: no quake3 is not free
[04:36] <Jack_Sparrow> rsk:  Is there a loki installer for quake3
[04:36] <rixxon> rsk, mh and how much do they charge you for the linux version? where can you get it?
[04:37] <moi> @ miles: and you've checked all the elements within preferences on the volume control then made sure the output it being sent to the correct output and volume is up?
[04:38] <moi> most cards default muted
[04:38] <miles> I'm not sure how to do that.
[04:38] <moi> double click on the little speaker top right
[04:38] <Jack_Sparrow> rixxon: do you have q3 for M$  if so try http://www.liflg.org/?catid=6
[04:38] <lostsync> miles, just like in windows dblclick the little speaker in the system tray
[04:38] <miles> okay
[04:38] <miles> yeah, got that.
[04:38] <moi> then edit/pref
[04:39] <moi> check all
[04:39] <moi> ok it, make sure the main outs are up
[04:39] <miles> master all the way up, as well as PCM
[04:39] <moi> hmmm
[04:39] <rsk> rixxon: its the windows version you get and copy some files
[04:40] <Chris0r> damn takes ages to update:P
[04:40] <moi> have you looked at the alsa site for docs on your cards dirver? it may need a tweek, like my maudio did
[04:40] <miles> nope haven't looked there yet.
[04:41] <flo> i want to buy a VGA ASUS NVIDIA EN7600GS SILENT 512MB PCI-E that uses a gpu NVidia GeForce 7600 GS, can someone tellme if i have full support with the drivers and xgl?thx
[04:41] <lostsync> moi, musician?
[04:41] <moi> try that, there is a card/driver table
[04:41] <moi> lostsync, aye yup
[04:41] <rixxon> rsk, hm so it takes my windows version and turn it into a linux compatible one? using the same key?
[04:41] <ianw_> Hi All , I'm trying to set up Ubuntu 6_06
[04:41] <ianw_> as a mail server
[04:41] <lostsync> do much in linux or u have a mac hiding in the corner or something?
[04:41] <ianw_> and getr saslauthd working
[04:41] <moi> producer/sound eng
[04:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Miles... if you go back to 7:32 I already linked the alsa site with info on your card and you said you had already read all of that
[04:41] <moi> :/
[04:42] <moi> lol
[04:42] <saiko> hi, what file should i edit (what to add)  so when booting ubuntu wait for network interfaces to come up (dhcp) ?
[04:42] <lostsync> right on.  i've done IDM on the pc for ages but i havent found a linux musicmaking solution that fits my needs yet
[04:42] <ianw_> Anyone with any experiance sasl postifx, that kind of thing
[04:42] <moi> lostsync, nice nick....
[04:42] <moi> lol
[04:42] <lostsync> thank you :D
[04:42] <miles> http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=VIA&card=VIA+southbridge+AC97+audio.&chip=VIA82C686%2C+VIA8233%2C+VIA8233A%2C+VIA8235%2C+VIA8237&module=via82xx
[04:42] <lostsync> i got it from ASIO cuz my sound card absolutely blew
[04:43] <miles> I may, but I'm not sure if I need it.
[04:43] <moi> lostsync, no mac here, though logic 7 isacalling...
[04:43] <lostsync> moi, yes i'm eyeing these new macs with a lustful envy.  prolly getting a macbook w/in a month or two
[04:43] <moi> lostsync: nor have i found a linux daw that suits...
[04:44] <snoops> I read about some application which is great for making gui's out of shell scripts.. can anyone remember the name?
[04:44] <KenSentMe> ianw_: maybe check here: http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/
[04:44] <lostsync> moi, doesnt seem to really be one.  i cant even find a respectable mod tracker honestly.
[04:44] <KenSentMe> ianw_: is a tutorial for debian, but works for ubuntu. It handles the use of sasl on postfix
[04:44] <lz1gjd> !compiz/kde
[04:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about compiz/kde - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:44] <moi> but keeping an eye on demudi
[04:45] <moi> lostsync: google demudi
[04:45] <Masticore> Im using gnome-bluetooth, I can recive files but I cant send. I dont have this option in rightclick: http://usefulinc.com/software/gnome-bluetooth/nautilus-send.png How do I fix this?
[04:45] <moi> very interesting
[04:46] <moi> lostsync: its a TURE 64bit daw
[04:46] <solsTiCe> hi. what is the name of that special channel ? #ubuntu-course ? or ?
[04:46] <moi> TRUE*
[04:46] <moi> ahem
[04:47] <moi> and debian based
[04:47] <inc|freaky> when will vim7 be released for dapper and when will the clamav package be updated the current one is outdated ...
[04:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Time for breakfast... back later... if you need me just yell..
[04:48] <lz1gjd> whats the easiest way to start running compiz/xgl with kde, when all is setup and working fine for gnome
[04:48] <solsTiCe> hi. what is the name of that special channel ? #ubuntu-course ? or ?
[04:48] <moi> laters Sappra
[04:48] <Chris0r> how do i sent a broadcast message?
[04:48] <moi> Sparra
[04:49] <Chris0r> how do i sent a broadcast message?
[04:49] <rixxon> define broadcast?
[04:50] <tuxub> are you guys using xchat?
[04:50] <Chris0r> Like when you reboot
[04:50] <rixxon> perhaps put an udp packet on the wire targetting your local broadcast gateway
[04:50] <Chris0r> it says Broadcast : rebooting system
[04:50] <frogzoo> Chris0r: wall
[04:50] <tuxub> how can I change the color of my text?
[04:50] <Chris0r> ty frogzoo
[04:50] <frogzoo> tuxub: google ansi color
[04:51] <Caraibes> I am using Opera right now
[04:51] <Chris0r> frogzoo thats from a file?:S
[04:51] <tuxub> frogzoo, it's a "I can't see you" gray and I want to change it permantly to another color
[04:51] <Caraibes> but Xchat is fine too
[04:51] <lostsync> tuxub, use ctrl+k
[04:51] <tuxub> lostsync, that only works in one line, not every line
[04:51] <frogzoo> tuxub: you can set the colors in gnome-terminal through the preferences
[04:51] <ianw_> Thanks Kensentme
[04:51] <lostsync> oh word
[04:52] <Chris0r> how do i sent a broadcast message?
[04:52] <frogzoo> Chris0r: wall
[04:52] <Chris0r> that doesnt work:S
[04:52] <lostsync> you want Settings->Advanced->Text Events
[04:52] <tuxub> frogzoo, i am using xchat, not gnome-terminal!
[04:52] <Chris_> Chris0r: wall
[04:52] <lostsync> use %C to change color
[04:52] <Chris0r> doesnt work:(
[04:52] <lonelystar> %C sdf
[04:53] <Chris_> Chris0r: could you be a little more specific?
[04:53] <lostsync> not like that hehe
[04:53] <Chris0r> when you type reboot in console, it broadcasts a message to every user
[04:53] <Chris0r> i want to do that.
[04:53] <tuxub> lostsync, thank god :)
[04:53] <rixxon> whatsup with totem package
[04:53] <iratik> How do you assume a user's role (e.g. If I wanted to pretend I was www-data?)?
[04:53] <rixxon> or is it only me having problems
[04:53] <frogzoo> Chris0r: man wall
[04:54] <miles> how do I backstep alsa?
[04:54] <Chris_> Chris0r: in that case apt-get install wall => man wall - it does exactly what you want
[04:54] <frogzoo> iratik: sudo su www-data
[04:54] <iratik> thanks
[04:54] <Chris0r> wall: can't read hm.
[04:54] <longwave> iratik: "sudo -u www-data command" will run a command as www-data, or "sudo -i -u www-data" will give you a shell
[04:55] <deep__> sudo is smarter then i thought. :P
[04:55] <iratik> I've got a permissions/ownership problem . Directory reads drw-rw-rw-  2 www-data www-data, but cd (directory) returns permission denied! and i'm www-data - what am i not understanding here?
[04:56] <Chris0r> Chris_ wall: can't read hm.
[04:56] <longwave> iratik: you need execute permission on a directory to be able to cd into it
[04:56] <ianw_> Kensentme: Nope, that doesn't cover saslauthd
[04:56] <iratik> so chmod 777
[04:56] <moi> dd... or not dd, that is the question.
[04:56] <Chris_> Chris0r: vim foo => type in your message => wall foo!
[04:56] <longwave> iratik: yes, if you want anyone to be able to read/write/cd to that directory
[04:56] <iratik> what if I just want the owner to be able to read/write/cd to that directory
[04:56] <iratik> 776?
[04:56] <ianw_> anyone got saslauthd running, I'm having problems with the saslauthd.conf file, line with DEFAULTS in it.
[04:56] <moi> man, how many more corners?
[04:56] <MarcN> Chris0r: wall < foo
[04:57] <Chris0r> i have to make it read from a file?|:
[04:57] <MarcN> Chris0r:  or type   wall   (return) and keep typing your message.  end with ^D
[04:57] <Chris_> Chris0r: yep, for other features and arguments I strongly recommend man wall
[04:58] <Chris0r> how do you get ^D?
[04:58] <MarcN> Chris0r: Control-D
[04:58] <Chris0r> ooh
[04:58] <Chris0r> ty:)
[04:58] <longwave> iratik: 775 will make it read-only for anyone else, 770 will be read/write/cd by owner/group only
[04:59] <pirate-king> hello
[04:59] <deep__> Hello. :)
[04:59] <longwave> ianw_: i have saslauthd running, my DEFAULTS is DEFAULTS=/etc/default/saslauthd
[04:59] <pirate-king> Im on live cd ubuntu
[04:59] <longwave> ianw_: the message you got before suggests you have uncommented something in /etc/default/saslauthd in error
[04:59] <ianw_> Thanks Long wave
[05:00] <ianw_> I've being following the how-to forge perfect 6_06 set up
[05:01] <longwave> pastebin your /etc/default/saslauthd and i will take a look if you like
[05:01] <Chris0r> how do i find my kernel?
[05:01] <longwave> Chris0r: "uname -a" will tell you the version
[05:01] <yacek19> hi
[05:01] <ianw_> # This needs to be uncommented before saslauthd will be run automatically
[05:01] <ianw_> START=yes
[05:01] <ianw_> PARAMS="-m /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd -r"
[05:01] <ianw_>  You must specify the authentication mechanisms you wish to use.
[05:01] <longwave> Chris0r: if you mean the kernel files themslves, they are in /boot
[05:01] <ianw_> # This defaults to "pam" for PAM support, but may also include
[05:01] <ianw_> # "shadow" or "sasldb", like this:
[05:01] <ianw_> # MECHANISMS="pam shadow"
[05:01] <longwave> !paste
[05:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:01] <ianw_> MECHANISMS="pam"
[05:01] <Chris0r> ty i meant version:P
[05:01] <yacek19> I cannot run azureus under ubuntu, splash screen shows, then... nothing
[05:02] <longwave> ianw_: you have removed the # from the line that begins "You must specify"
[05:02] <longwave> ianw_: put that back and it should work again
[05:02] <pirate-king> does ubuntu work with wireless
[05:02] <glen_> yacek19, did u install from repos?
[05:02] <pirate-king> intell
[05:02] <ianw_> It's the conf file that I think has the problem.
[05:02] <ianw_> If I uncomment defaults line is starts
[05:02] <ianw_> MECHANISMS="pam"
[05:02] <yacek19> yes
[05:02] <ianw_> Yes it's uncommented
[05:02] <longwave> ianw_: no, the line that starts "You must specify" is a comment so it should begin with a #, it looks like you have deleted the # symbol in error
[05:02] <Chris_> pirate-king: depends
[05:02] <pirate-king> on what?
[05:03] <glen_> yacek19, i had problems too at first, as i recall it was java related
[05:03] <Chris0r> how do i get kernel sources?
[05:03] <pirate-king> tryed to configure it
[05:03] <ianw_> BIngo, I love you and want your children :-)
[05:03] <yacek19> glen_ so is there any solution?
[05:03] <Chris_> pirate-king: on what kind of hardware you use (aka wireless network adapter)
[05:03] <jordanau> anyone know of a good linux commmand line reference card or page i could print na dput next to my computer
[05:03] <glen_> yacek19, which java have you installed?
[05:04] <Chris_> !wireless > pirate-king
[05:04] <npster> Is someone here from Macedonia ?
[05:04] <pirate-king> my router has wep incription the key would be in plain text
[05:04] <canatella> hello
[05:04] <yacek19> 1.5.0.5
[05:04] <Chris0r> !source
[05:04] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:04] <npster> I don't think so
[05:04] <Chris0r> !kernel
[05:04] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[05:04] <pirate-king> !wireless
[05:04] <Chris0r> !kernelsource
[05:04] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about kernelsource - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:05] <pirate-king> ok
[05:05] <Chris0r> how do i get my kernel source?
[05:05] <rixxon> Chris0r, www.kernel.org
[05:05] <Chris0r> apt-get ?
[05:05] <jordanau> !kernel
[05:05] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[05:05] <npster> sudo apt-get install linux-source
[05:05] <yacek19> glen_ 1.5.0.6
[05:05] <Chris0r> ty
[05:05] <canatella> is there a 2.6.16 or higher precompiled kernel for dapper ?
[05:05] <rixxon> Chris0r, oh :P
[05:05] <npster> I think so
[05:05] <canatella> or maybe someone asked this ten seconds ago :)
[05:06] <ianw_> longwave: Many thanks well spotted, was driving me round the twist, made the changes and
[05:06] <frogzoo> jordanau: man in/11
[05:06] <ianw_> Starting SASL Authentication Daemon: root@mercury:~#
[05:06] <frogzoo> oops
[05:06] <ianw_> Voila, cheers all, bye guys, thanks longwave
[05:06] <longwave> glad i could help :D
[05:06] <jordanau> frogzoo, nothing happens
[05:07] <Chris0r> root is back?:P
[05:07] <magus_x> is there anyway to emulate isos on ubuntu?
[05:07] <longwave> canatella: no, only 2.6.15 in dapper, 2.6.17 is in edgy though
[05:07] <Chris0r> !root
[05:07] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:07] <hs_125> Is there any  open source software for centralized cross platform system administration ?
[05:07] <frogzoo> jordanau: typo, soz
[05:07] <[Ex0r] > hs_125- vmware, or crossover office
[05:07] <longwave> magus_x: using the loopback driver you can mount a file as if it were a device, if that's what you mean
[05:08] <stefg> Chris0r: you guessed right that the ubuntu-kernel sources are available via apt-get. If you just need to compile a driver which needs only the headers theh these are available, too. sudo apt-cache search kernel will tell you the names
[05:08] <hs_125> [Ex0r] , thx
[05:09] <fuzzybunny> anyone here a ninja w/excel formulas?
[05:09] <jordanau> fuzzybunny, what do you need to do
[05:10] <rixxon> dads computer won't boot livecd so i can't access the installer. is this probably a livecd related issue, would ubuntu work fine if installed "normally"? or can't he run ubuntu at all
[05:10] <canatella> longwave: installing linux-*-2.6.17 from edgy could work ?
[05:10] <stefg> rixxon: difine 'won't boot'
[05:10] <Jack_Sparrow> fuzzybunny: what ya need
[05:10] <rixxon> stefg, it gets as far as the splash, then i get an empty brownish screen with a mouse pointer stuck in the middle
[05:10] <fuzzybunny> I have a formula that isn't working
[05:10] <frogzoo> fuzzybunny: that's a reeeaally curious question
[05:11] <fuzzybunny> its a COUNTIF
[05:11] <longwave> canatella: it may do, though you will probably need to upgrade other packages to edgy as well, which may make your system unstable
[05:11] <magus_x> longwave, : i mean something like Daemon Tools for windows
[05:11] <fuzzybunny> I want to count the number of times the cells in the given range fall in between a date range
[05:11] <fuzzybunny> =COUNTIF($A$33:$A$75,">=01/01/2002 AND =<03/31/2002")
[05:11] <stefg> rixxon: this might be a problem with acpi.
[05:11] <fuzzybunny> I want to see how many occurrances are in Q1 of 2002
[05:11] <canatella> longwave: ok I'll just look at the deps to see if I really want to do that
[05:12] <rixxon> stefg, does your suggestion include a solution? :)
[05:12] <stefg> rixxon: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions how to try different boot parameters
[05:12] <longwave> magus_x: "sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 filename.iso /mnt/iso" should mount filename.iso at /mnt/iso, you dont need any extra software like daemon tools on linux :)
[05:12] <magus_x> nice
[05:12] <magus_x> thanks !!
[05:13] <magus_x> :)
[05:13] <rixxon> stefg, ok thanks, i'll check it out
[05:13] <fuzzybunny> any suggestions frogzoo Jack_Sparrow or jordanau
[05:13] <frogzoo> fuzzybunny: I'd try tldp.org
[05:14] <vapermonkey> hey guys
[05:14] <inc|freaky> can someone file a bug report for me? the clamav package is outdated and the virus DB cant be updated ...
[05:14] <vapermonkey> does any of you have ut2004
[05:14] <Chris0r> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build: No such file or directory. Stop.
[05:14] <inc|freaky> vapermonkey: i got it
[05:14] <jordanau> fuzzybunny, http://www.faqs.org/qa/qa-984.html
[05:14] <vapermonkey> i cant get myne to work
[05:14] <inc|freaky> what error do you get?
[05:14] <Chris0r> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build: No such file or directory. Stop. -- Any help?
[05:15] <vapermonkey> : is all it says
[05:15] <inc|freaky> cant you install it, or cant you start it or what is the problem?
[05:15] <jordanau> fuzzybunny, better http://exceltips.vitalnews.com/Pages/T0813_Counting_Dates_in_a_Range.html
[05:15] <garryF> You got build-essential package Chris?
[05:15] <buffoon> hi, I have (nearly) configured my network on the other desktop pc. I loaded all needed modules for it, then i tried to ping my router, google.de. All worked fine. But I can't surf on the internet with firefox
[05:15] <Chris0r> stefg you there?
[05:15] <stefg> naa
[05:15] <jordanau> i love doing other people's googling
[05:15] <buffoon> dns should work, ping google.de works fine
[05:15] <inc|freaky> jordanau: ill employ you as my personal googler if you want :D
[05:15] <vapermonkey> i got it to in stall but when i go to load it it wont just the splash screen
[05:16] <Chris0r> stefg can you help, compiling drivers i get this error, make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build: No such file or directory. Stop.
[05:16] <hume> anyone can help with a compilation error? /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lqt
[05:16] <inc|freaky> vapermonkey: open a console and write in: ut2004
[05:16] <jordanau> _______________  search     I'm feeling lucky
[05:16] <inc|freaky> vapermonkey: and tell me where it hangs
[05:16] <Kyral_Laptop> hume: sounds like you need the Qt libraries
[05:16] <buffoon> i cann surf on my local apache server...
[05:16] <inc|freaky> hume: i guess you dont have QT installed
[05:16] <buffoon> but not on the www
[05:16] <jbroome> or qt-dev
[05:16] <inc|freaky> yea
[05:16] <inc|freaky> both probably
[05:16] <Kyral_Laptop> One thing I don't like about Debian
[05:16] <Masticore> Im using gnome-bluetooth, I can recive files but I cant send. I dont have this option in rightclick: http://usefulinc.com/software/gnome-bluetooth/nautilus-send.png How do I fix this?
[05:16] <Kyral_Laptop> (or Debian based things)
[05:17] <vapermonkey> dennis@dennis:~$ ut2004
[05:17] <vapermonkey> :
[05:17] <vapermonkey> Exiting due to error
[05:17] <vapermonkey> dennis@dennis:~$
[05:17] <Kyral_Laptop> splitting of packages
[05:17] <Chris_> bufoon: try ifup eth0
[05:17] <Chris0r> stefg can you help, compiling drivers i get this error, make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build: No such file or directory. Stop.
[05:17] <garryF> I love it when I google to answer other people's problems. People think I'm an expert. j/k Seriously, googling is best done by the questioner. It makes the answer stick better and they are more inclined to google. However out dated, info can be a problem.
[05:17] <inc|freaky> vapermonkey: hm, have you moved the ut2004 files from the CD into the install directory?
[05:17] <stefg> Chris0r: so you have installed build-essential and kernel-headers-`uname -r` ?
[05:17] <jordanau> vapermonkey, where did you get ut2004?
[05:17] <fuzzybunny> jordanau, that last link I think will work :)
[05:17] <fuzzybunny> jordanau, thank you
[05:17] <jordanau> np
[05:17] <vapermonkey> the store
[05:18] <moi> lostsync?
[05:18] <jordanau> vapermonkey, how much does it cost now (i might buy it)
[05:18] <lostsync> yessir?
[05:18] <vapermonkey> do i need anything for my video like win needs direct x
[05:18] <Kyral_Laptop> garryF: seriously, people think Hackers keep everything in our heads, not true. We just know how to find all documentation
[05:18] <Chris0r> stefg : E: Couldn't find package kernel-headers-2.6.12-10-386
[05:18] <moi> i got mixed up back there...
[05:18] <inc|freaky> vapermonkey: opengl ...
[05:18] <vapermonkey> i got it for 20
[05:18] <moi> demudi is not 64...
[05:18] <inc|freaky> vapermonkey: a working 3d accelaration graphics card and its driver installed
[05:18] <pirate-king> hello
[05:18] <pirate-king> Im wireless now
[05:18] <pirate-king> thank you
[05:18] <moi> however, I was thinking of this http://64studio.com/
[05:18] <buffoon> Chris_: hmm, it says: "Interface eth0 already configured"
[05:18] <vapermonkey> where do i get that
[05:19] <inc|freaky> vapermonkey: what graphics card have u got?
[05:19] <vapermonkey> i got a nvidia gforce 256
[05:19] <lostsync> have you looked at that ubuntu studio project?
[05:19] <MrZaius> to upgrade to the point release, do you just do an apt-get update&&apt-get dist-upgrade, or do you have to change the repo in apt's sources list?
[05:19] <jordanau> pirate-king, congratulations, thats a good feeling i know
[05:19] <inc|freaky> vapermonkey: http://wiki.ubuntu.com and search for nvidia
[05:19] <MrZaius> s/the/dapper's\ new
[05:19] <garryF> Kyral_Laptop Hehe. Yep. I kind of don't blame some who do come here to ask after being stung by finding documentation in the wrong place. :)
[05:19] <vapermonkey> the nvidia works
[05:19] <Chris_> buffoon: ifconfig ?
[05:19] <moi> yes, the main page, at a glance, when the first day used linux, about 6months ago...
[05:19] <inc|freaky> vapermonkey: the drivers too
[05:19] <inc|freaky> #?
[05:20] <Kyral_Laptop> Or we keep a copy of O'Reilly's "Linux Pocket Guide" around
[05:20] <stefg> Chris0r: ah.. they're called linux-headers now. sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`   is the line
[05:20] <vapermonkey> ya i think i did that
[05:20] <inc|freaky> vapermonkey: so the nvidia logo appears when starting X?
[05:20] <jordanau> Kyral_Laptop, is it a good book?
[05:20] <vapermonkey> u can hack me if u want
[05:20] <moi> to be honest, have not looked into the whole linux studio thing much, concentrated on understanding ubuntu
[05:20] <Kyral_Laptop> jordanau: its awesomeness
[05:20] <Jaymac> quick question: what does --sm-disable mean in the startup items beside something? eg: nm-applet --sm-disable
[05:20] <pirate-king> not working
[05:20] <inc|freaky> vapermonkey: noones going to hack you
[05:20] <Kyral_Laptop> a condensed version of Linux In A Nutshell
[05:20] <pirate-king> my wireless shows signal
[05:20] <vapermonkey> what if i want u to
[05:21] <pirate-king> but I disconnect
[05:21] <inc|freaky> vapermonkey: thats not what we were talking about
[05:21] <pirate-king> my network cable then it drops
[05:21] <Kyral_Laptop> I don't crack systems....
[05:21] <Kyral_Laptop> I am a White Hat Hacker
[05:21] <vapermonkey> but cant u log in to my pc and look to c what the problems r
[05:21] <lostsync> moi, same, but mostly because no quick solution has presented itself.  a big problem is that i'm using an athlon 600mhz so lots of things wont run fast enough to be of any use
[05:21] <inc|freaky> Kyral_Laptop: the system cracks you :D
[05:21] <Jaymac> someone must know?
[05:22] <garryF> Hmm, I looked around for info on the just released minor version of Dapper. No upgrade path found. No update in the respositories here yet. Anyone know if there will be an upgrade path and when?
[05:22] <inc|freaky> vapermonkey: ah you mean that - i cant help you because youre not giving answers
[05:22] <inc|freaky> vapermonkey: did you copy the content from the CD into the install directory?
[05:22] <red_Marvin> Do anyone know how to input international characters with ncursesw? (I can't find a getc() for wide characters)
[05:22] <buffoon> Chris_: ifconfig shows that it has an ip address and all the stuff needed. It seems that there's no problem with the network except surfing on the internet. I cann open an ssh connection to my debian system in the network, i can ping to google.de and ubuntu.com, but in firefox it can't connect to pages on the internet (in LAN it works)
[05:22] <vapermonkey> i think so all 5 cd's
[05:23] <inc|freaky> vapermonkey: i have the dvd version ... well, i cant help you ... i didnt have that error
[05:23] <moi> Jack_Sparrow?
[05:23] <vapermonkey> so what shall i do
[05:23] <moi> or anyone familer with DD?
[05:24] <moi> lostsync: aye, could see how that may be a problem
[05:24] <Chris_> buffoon: do you have a proxy configured for FF?
[05:24] <moi> lostsync: time for an upgrade?
[05:24] <inc|freaky> vapermonkey: i dont know sorry
[05:25] <buffoon> Chris_: i have no proxy... just a gateway
[05:25] <sp4r74n> hi everyone
[05:25] <moi> Jack_Sparrow: HELP!!!!!!!!!!
[05:25] <vapermonkey> ok ty
[05:25] <Jack_Sparrow> moi:
[05:25] <sp4r74n> im new here;P
[05:25] <lostsync> moi, well actually this box is still pretty new to me.  it was a project in creating a literally free computer.  i found all of the components literally on the ground in Atlanta.
[05:25] <jbroome> literally
[05:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Still eating whats up
[05:25] <dxdemetriou> I have moved my installed Dapper to other newer pc, but the nvidia stop working. What must I do? I think that "apt-get --purge --reinstall install" remove works, but what packages must I reinstall?
[05:25] <Chris_> buffoon: I understood that, but does firefox think you're using a proxy?
[05:26] <lostsync> moi, so happened that about the time i got this up and running my 2.4ghz laptop bit the dust w/ a busted LCD
[05:26] <buffoon> Chris_: no, it is configured as direct connection to the internet
[05:26] <sp4r74n> anybody got Vodafone Option card working?
[05:26] <buffoon> no proxy
[05:26] <moi> Jack_Sparrow: ermm, could not help myself, started downloading a large iso, dd is still doing its thing (I think) will this dl screw things up?
[05:26] <wweasel> I am installing Swiftfox on a friend's computer: Is there a way to determine what type of processor he has within Linux, without opening it up?
[05:26] <sp4r74n> im from croatia and here noone knows how;(
[05:27] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: where on the drive did you send it.. root home desktop?
[05:27] <magus_x> hey
[05:27] <moi> Jack_Sparrow: had no option but to the desktop
[05:28] <magus_x> is there a way to set permissions to all files into a directory setting one time boly?
[05:28] <magus_x> *only
[05:28] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: I'd cancel it
[05:28] <moi> k
[05:28] <lostsync> wweasel, you can try uname -p
[05:28] <moi> Jack_Sparrow: done, was a little silly
[05:28] <MrZaius> to upgrade to dapper the point release, do you just do an apt-get update&&apt-get dist-upgrade, or do you have to change the repo in apt's sources list?
[05:28] <MrZaius> http://www.linuxcompatible.org/Ubuntu_6.06.1_LTS_released_s70761.html
[05:28] <sp4r74n> what channel for help?
[05:28] <Kyral_Laptop> this one....
[05:29] <MrZaius> are there seperate repos or not?
[05:29] <moi> Jack_Sparrow: anyway, thx, enjoy the rest of your grub
[05:29] <Chris_> buffoon: firewall? Strange that every other app can connect to the inet? could you try it with konqueror?
[05:29] <wweasel> lostsync: unkown
[05:29] <sp4r74n> ok so plz help on vodafone option card....
[05:29] <wweasel> lostsync: i mean, unknown
[05:29] <sp4r74n> tryied all tutorials on net doesnt work
[05:29] <Darkhack> MrZaius they are not seperate repos.  Just as long as everything in your sources.list file says "dapper" you can run apt-get upgrade and be fine
[05:30] <MrZaius> Darkhack: thanks!
[05:30] <DiamonD> Hellow fellows
[05:30] <moi> anyone here use logmein?
[05:30] <lostsync> wweasel, yeah that's what it says for me too.  i have an athlon...i have no idea if it'd give a proper answer on intel or not
[05:30] <fuzzybunny> jordanau, I don't think that's going to work either...I can't interpret the data right
[05:30] <DiamonD> i have a problem with ssh on my ubuntu computer
[05:30] <DiamonD> words ssh on ubuntu
[05:30] <DiamonD> ?
[05:30] <DiamonD> works
[05:30] <sp4r74n> help on Vodafone in croatia
[05:30] <DiamonD> someone
[05:30] <DiamonD> ?
[05:30] <sproingie> DiamonD: you haven't asked a question yet
[05:30] <wweasel> lostsync: I think it's Intel Celeron, but it might be a Sempron :P
[05:31] <moi> does logmein work with ubuntu, or is there a similar service?
[05:31] <sp4r74n> help on Vodafone in croatia /pcmcia Option 3g card
[05:31] <Warbo> Does anyone know of a desklet/icon application which does NOT use fake transparency? Maybe one which uses xshape?
[05:31] <DiamonD> k
[05:31] <DiamonD> wait
[05:31] <lostsync> wweasel, , it doesnt say on the outside of the computer via little intel sticker?
[05:31] <jordanau> !ubotu > jordanau
[05:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about > jordanau - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:31] <sproingie> Warbo: shape extension doesn't do transparency, it does shaping
[05:31] <DiamonD> i have installed ubuntu on a computer
[05:31] <Warbo> sproingie: Exactly
[05:31] <DiamonD> and i have updated the  distro
[05:32] <sproingie> Warbo: i believe enlightenment does real transparency in some apps
[05:32] <Bob535> !remote
[05:32] <ubotu> I know nothing about remote - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:32] <Bob535> !remotedesktop
[05:32] <ubotu> I know nothing about remotedesktop - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:32] <sproingie> Warbo: xgl's transparency is probably real too
[05:32] <DiamonD> but i want to know ssh doenst work
[05:32] <DiamonD> :/
[05:32] <wweasel> lostsync: Most of my friends build their own computers, like me :)
[05:32] <moi> !love
[05:32] <ubotu> I know nothing about love - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:32] <sp4r74n> help on Vodafone in croatia /pcmcia Option 3g card
[05:32] <sproingie> DiamonD: what are the symptoms?  what are you trying, what's happening?
[05:32] <Bob535> Anyone know how I can remote login to my station?
[05:32] <Warbo> sproingie: I have changing background images, and adesklets keeps popping above my apps to get a new screenshot for it's fake transparency
[05:32] <Gun_Smoke> I don't understand what keystroke the vertical line is or represents in             bcm43xx' | sudo
[05:32] <DiamonD> connection refushed
[05:33] <jordanau> |
[05:33] <buffoon> Chris_: yes, thats very strange, I know... thats why I'm asking here... well, I'm making an update right now, it takes about 20 minutes. is there installed another www aplication as default?
[05:33] <Warbo> sproingie: Composite runs terribly on the DRI radeon driver (it uses Mesa for translucency/alpha)
[05:33] <DiamonD> i want to run unrealircd on the ubuntu distro
[05:33] <DiamonD> but he keeps saying
[05:33] <buffoon> Chris_: i guess konqueror isn't installed
[05:33] <DiamonD> bash unknown
[05:33] <DiamonD> :/
[05:33] <sproingie> Warbo: i doubt you'll get real transparency unless you're running xgl.  the content of windows is something the x server itself has to manage, and vanilla xorg doesn't respect transparency
[05:33] <DiamonD> what ever i try :(
[05:33] <DiamonD> ./unreal start
[05:33] <DiamonD> it won't work
[05:34] <lostsync> wweasel, if he built it you'd think he'd know what processor is inside, wouldn't you?
[05:34] <sp4r74n> help on Vodafone in croatia /pcmcia Option 3g card
[05:34] <lostsync> ;)
[05:34] <Warbo> But xshape would get around that, so I'm wondering if there is an app that does an xteddy like image, but which can be used as an icon
[05:34] <wweasel> lostsync: You have to know him. He's a bit of a space cadet if you know what I mean :P
[05:34] <sproingie> Warbo: xgl runs great on my radeon 9800 with the fglrx driver.  'course there's maybe 2 or 3 cards that fglrx works decently with, mine's one
[05:34] <TheGateKeeper> Hi Folks, I have just given access to a printer on my kubuntu box using method outlined in the url, can I replace the ip address with the name of my kubuntu box? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP
[05:34] <moi> lostsync: perhaps he thought it was lego
[05:34] <DiamonD> i need ssh because i want to let other ppl to try to run the server
[05:34] <sp4r74n> help on Vodafone in croatia /pcmcia Option 3g card
[05:34] <DiamonD> ;)
[05:35] <Warbo> fglrx doesn't let me use GL or framebuffer, only 2D :(
[05:35] <sproingie> Warbo: any icon should be able to have transparent parts
[05:35] <sproingie> Warbo: the fglrx kernel module is what you need for 3d
[05:35] <pirate-king> hello
[05:35] <lostsync> moi, lol
[05:35] <DiamonD> is there a ssh server in ubuntu
[05:35] <DiamonD> ?
[05:35] <Warbo> sproingie: No, it doesn't support my card so I use the DRI driver for 3D
[05:35] <wweasel> lostsync: Anyways, I popped 'er open, it was a celeron D.
[05:35] <Jaymac> does anyone know what --sm-disable means in the startup items beside something? eg: nm-applet --sm-disable
[05:35] <sproingie> DiamonD: apt-get install openssh-server
[05:35] <jrib> DiamonD: not installed by default
[05:36] <moi> yeah see.... lego
[05:36] <sp4r74n> help on Vodafone in croatia /pcmcia Option 3g card
[05:36] <lostsync> wweasel, nothing like a screwdriver to solve a problem :)
[05:36] <Warbo> !repeat > sp4r74n
[05:36] <sproingie> sp4r74n: we saw you the first 20 times
[05:36] <rdemanow> can I get some help with gnubiff?  I can't figure out what it wants in the "location" field for checking a remote imap4 mailbox
[05:36] <Chris_> bufffoon: try apt-get install elinks, and then try to get a connection to google.de via elinks
[05:37] <lostsync> man naming my box "failure" was a bad idea.  every time i leave something running in console then look back to it the 1st thing i see is 'failure' in the bash prompt and i'm like "oh no! it didn't work!"
[05:37] <sproingie> Warbo: yah, i was "lucky" to have an ati card that actually works well on linux.  luckier still would be to have an nvidia
[05:37] <DiamonD> k thnx
[05:37] <sproingie> lostsync: LOL
[05:37] <Warbo> I gave up my nvidia
[05:37] <DiamonD> i am not root
[05:37] <DiamonD> :/
[05:37] <sproingie> lostsync: panic is an even better name
[05:37] <Bob535> !additem
[05:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about additem - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:37] <buffoon> Chris_: ok, just waiting for the update to finish... thx in the meantime for your help
[05:37] <moi> lol
[05:37] <Bob535> Anyone know how to update the ubotu?
[05:37] <mvhenten> I can no longer set foreground and background colors of my xterm, nor can i run ncurses apps like 'midnight commander' can somebody explain what went wrong with xterm in lts?
[05:37] <moi> @ lostsync ;p lol
[05:37] <DiamonD> there is only one user sign in and i have called it Administrator
[05:37] <lostsync> hehe i just got GL working on my nVidia TNT2 ;)
[05:37] <Casanova> is it possible to resize an NTFS partition from the ubuntu installer?
[05:37] <MystaMax> im reading xgl documents, and its referring to a Linux super key? I'm not sure which key that is. Anyone know?
[05:37] <Warbo> Casanova: Yes
[05:38] <Casanova> Warbo: it has ntfs resize?
[05:38] <Chris_> buffoon: dafr nich ;-)
[05:38] <DiamonD> hoe can i sign in onto terminal server inroot mode
[05:38] <DiamonD> ?
[05:38] <Warbo> Casanova: I would prefer to do it seperately beforehand though, with GParted ("GNOME Partition Editor")
[05:38] <DiamonD> sproingie
[05:38] <DarkAudit> anyone able to get City of Heroes/Villains running on a recent build of WINE?
[05:38] <moi> omg you poor darling, I would not even give a tramp a tnt2
[05:38] <ardchoille> DiamonD: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[05:38] <Crazed> Hi !
[05:38] <Warbo> (which is also on the Ubuntu CD)
[05:38] <Casanova> Warbo: do i need do a defragment or some thing else to make sure i have no data loss at all?
[05:38] <Crazed> I got a question about updating to latest kernel ..
[05:38] <longwave> MystaMax: the "super" key is the Windows key on most keyboard configs
[05:38] <wweasel> lostsync:    :) thanks for the help
[05:38] <Crazed> is it ok to do ?
[05:39] <sproingie> Casanova: it works out of the box, no defragging needed
[05:39] <Crazed> or should I just use latest kernel that the ubuntu crew gives ?
[05:39] <moi> its like giving a starving marvin a potato crisp
[05:39] <TheGateKeeper> network printers anyone?
[05:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Crazed: Why not just let the updates patch it as needed
[05:39] <Casanova> sproingie: excellent.. thanks :)
[05:39] <Warbo> Casanova: As far as I can tell, it doesn't need to be defragged to work, however, since the data becomes compacted better after a defrag you will find that you can shrink it more
[05:39] <moi> or a single cheezy poof
[05:39] <sproingie> longwave: the win key is definitely mapped to Meta on ubuntu
[05:39] <lostsync> moi, lol.  hey it works, gives me 1600x1200 and i use openGL for approximately nothing so i'm not too worried about it
[05:39] <Crazed> wel I did a previous installation but fucked it up :D
[05:39] <Crazed> changed to much ..
[05:39] <lostsync> 24 bit color depth but human eye can barely percieve past 24 anyway
[05:39] <rdemanow> what do I put in the Address field of gnubiff for a remote imap4 mail account?  I can't find the answer in the man, the info, or the web page for gnubiff, and it's not working
[05:40] <Crazed> had some errors with unicode
[05:40] <Crazed> ..
[05:40] <sproingie> !language > Crazed
[05:40] <longwave> sproingie: i thought that too, but it seems to work as super in my xgl config (not running xgl at the moment so i cant really test)
[05:40] <Crazed> lol sproingie  .. :)
[05:40] <sproingie> lostsync: the eye can perceive lots more bits of depth in the green part of the spectrum
[05:40] <MystaMax> thnx longwave
[05:40] <iratik> How do I test a postfix/courier setup? do i... Enter my server's ip as the smtp server address in outlook setup?
[05:40] <kurup> hi..need some help on grub. it refuses to boot into windows..jumps back into linux. any idea what could be going on?
[05:40] <moi> bolllaks, frankly, I've an astronomer friend who argued the same untill I changed it to 32, and told him to open his bloody eyes
[05:41] <kurup> tried grub-install /dev/hda . didn't work
[05:41] <Jack_Sparrow> kurup: is your xp install on the 1st partition of drive 1
[05:41] <moi> but if your moniter aint upto it, 32 can be worse...
[05:41] <lostsync> sproingie, wonder if that has anything to do with trees...
[05:41] <magus_x> is possible to emulate .bin as a virtual cd driver on ubuntu? if yes, how?
[05:41] <rdemanow> kurup: what does your menu.lst look like?
[05:42] <kurup> how would I know that? bear with me...am pretty new to linux
[05:42] <sproingie> lostsync: the better to watch the grass and leaves rustle for stalking prey i suppose
[05:42] <Jack_Sparrow> kurup: use pastebin for your boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:42] <rdemanow> kurup:  cd to /boot/grub and less menu.lst
[05:42] <lostsync> moi, hehe yea this monitor isnt exactly super awesome.  as i said...found on the ground.  :)
[05:42] <ych> aparrently bin/cue doesnt work, you have to use iso for everything...
[05:42] <moi> well said about green sproingie
[05:42] <ych> or nrg
[05:42] <rdemanow> kurup: you need to edit that file to add Windows into the options
[05:42] <Warbo> bchunk converts bin/cue to iso
[05:42] <kurup> rdemanow: how can I show you menu.1st? would you like me to type it
[05:42] <Jack_Sparrow> kurup: Was XP installed when you installed linux?
[05:42] <moi> lostsync, cant fault you m8
[05:43] <Jack_Sparrow> kurup: Was XP installed and working.. I should say
[05:43] <Warbo> magus_x: Use bchunk to convert it to iso, then just mount it normally with the option "-o loop"
[05:43] <Crazed> Jack_Sparrow,  .. what about raid and Ubuntu
[05:43] <kurup> yes..windows 2000 was working prefectly normal till 2 days ago
[05:44] <Crazed> I know some one who cant install ubuntu because of raid
[05:44] <kurup> btw..how do I pastebin?
[05:44] <Bob535> Question, incase anyone knows
[05:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Crazed: sata raid?
[05:44] <sproingie> kurup: see the /topic
[05:44] <Crazed> yes
[05:44] <Warbo> kurup: You mean it started working properly 2 days ago? :)
[05:44] <Crazed> he cant create any partition tables ..
[05:44] <Crazed> that step just fails
[05:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Crazed: Yep, a problem..
[05:44] <Bob535> If I fried the MBR on my windows drive, can I still mount it and read (ntfs) properly in linux?
[05:44] <Bob535> or will it cause an error because of the lack of MBR
[05:44] <Crazed> is there any solution ?
[05:44] <moi> Jack_Sparrow, ermm, think its got past the first partition yet? if so, if stop what its doing and boot the gparted live cd, perhaps the first partiton will be on the 2nd drive, this is too slow, gparted was so fast with the other partitions
[05:45] <Warbo> Bob535: MBR probably. If the partition table is screwed then you may need to use gpart
[05:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Bob535: if Ub boots you should be able to read ntfs
[05:45] <Crazed> I dont have this problem but just want to know if there is a work around or what so ever :)
[05:45] <Chris0r> how do i find my kernel source dir?
[05:45] <rdemanow> kurup: did Ubuntu recently update the kernel on your machine?  If so, it probably re-wrote your menu.lst.  It did that to me and I lost my Windows and FreeBSD listings ... had to go in and re-add them to my menu.lst
[05:45] <Warbo> (I mena lack of MBR will probably be OK)
[05:45] <Warbo> *mean
[05:45] <mwe> Bob535: is the partition table intact?
[05:45] <Warbo> Chris0r: Are you compiling a driver or something?
[05:45] <Chris0r> yes
[05:46] <Warbo> Chris0r: Then all you need are the kernel headers. Run "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`"
[05:46] <Chris0r> i have them
[05:46] <Chris0r> its asking for the dir
[05:46] <Chris0r> where are they located?
[05:46] <Warbo> Chris0r: Then they are in /lib/modules/<version>/build
[05:46] <albacker> what package do i need ? :
[05:46] <albacker> checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[05:46] <linovice> Hi everyone ! :) Does somebody know where to find the list of universe components and their respective description on the web ?
[05:46] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: I couldnt tell you if it has copied your first partition yet..  I would strongly suggest you let it finish
[05:46] <kurup> yes..it updated the kernel..
[05:46] <Chris0r> # if the kernel is 2.6.x, trun on this
[05:46] <mwe> albacker: did I tell you how to install that yesterday?
[05:46] <Chris0r> KERN_26=y
[05:46] <Chris0r> KERNEL_SOURCE=/usr/src/linux-2.6.12-10
[05:46] <albacker> mwe, nope.. i just came here !
[05:47] <stefg> Chris0r: check in /usr/src if there's a symlink from linux to linux-headers-2.6---blahblah
[05:47] <Crazed> Jack_Sparrow,  I got a AMD Athlon XP 3000+ .. what kernel should I choose ? k7 or 686 ?
[05:47] <kurup> but i get both the kernal listings on the grub menu
[05:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Crazed: > !raid
[05:47] <albacker> mwe, is this it : libxml-parser-perl
[05:47] <Chris0r> chris@ubuntu:/usr/src$ ls
[05:47] <Chris0r> linux-headers-2.6.12-10 linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386 linux-source-2.6.12 linux-source-2.6.12.tar.bz2 rpm
[05:47] <Warbo> Chris0r: That is not the kernel "source" directory, you should give it /usr/src/linux-headers-something, but there is a link called /lib/modules/<version>/build which points there
[05:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Crazed: I would use 686 but others may have different opinion
[05:48] <rdemanow> kurup: yeah, the kernel update put in the new kernel, the old kernel, and left out your Windows listing.  That's the same thing it did to me.
[05:48] <mwe> albacker: I'm almost sure it is
[05:48] <jdier> Can anyone tell me how to create a flac fingerprint file?
[05:48] <albacker> mwe, k, thnx ;)
[05:48] <Crazed> ok long story I gues :D
[05:48] <Samineru> n00b question, how do i access other partitions from within nautilus
[05:48] <linovice> Hi everyone ! :) Does somebody know where to find the list of universe components and their respective description on the web ?
[05:48] <kurup> but eveso whats the solution?
[05:48] <Kyral_Laptop> linovice: packages.ubuntu.com
[05:48] <linovice> Kyral_Laptop : thanks a lot !!!
[05:48] <moi> is the obvious answer, grrr, as you know theres little worse than watching a progress bar, waiting for a program that dont even have a progress indicator beats it though
[05:48] <mwe> Samineru: mount them and browse to the mount point
[05:49] <jah_raztah> i am already using dapper, and want to knwo eather i need to download and re-install it using the 6.06.1 CD
[05:49] <Jack_Sparrow> kurup: did you pastebin your menu?
[05:49] <jah_raztah> or will my current dapper be up to date?
[05:49] <Jack_Sparrow> kurup: Once we fix it make a copy for future reference
[05:49] <Samineru> mwe I kind of suck, how do i do that?
[05:49] <Chris0r> hmm im ust getting a ton of errors:S
[05:49] <mwe> Samineru: System -> Administration -> Disks
[05:49] <mwe> Samineru: if you use gnome
[05:49] <Samineru> I do
[05:49] <kurup> sorry ..but i didn't quite follow how to use pastebin?
[05:50] <BlueEagle> jah_raztah: as long as you run the updating tool then your system will be up to date.
[05:50] <Jack_Sparrow> kurup:  to edit that from a terminal screen type   gksudo gedit  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:50] <Warbo> kurup: Paste your text into it, click send then copy the new address into here
[05:50] <moi> right, thats it... ctrl+c going to take me chances, if dont work, I'll set it running again before we leave work
[05:51] <Jack_Sparrow> kurup: Have you found your boot/grub/menu.lst yet?
[05:51] <Samineru> mwe and where would the mount point be?
[05:51] <BlueEagle> jah_raztah: The reason for the 6.06.1 release is so that people won't have to update that many packages on their newly installed system afaik.
[05:51] <kurup> yes..I have
[05:51] <rdemanow> kurup:  look in the pastebin, there's a sample of what you need to add to your menu.lst for Windows.  You'll need to adjust it for the location of Windows on your machine. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20200
[05:51] <mwe> Samineru: doesn't it show in that dialog?
[05:51] <mwe> Samineru: /media/something usually I think
[05:52] <moi> 400184713+0 records in & out, oow this could be fun. wish me luck, laters
[05:52] <Samineru> mwe: there is a button browse but when I click it it brings me to the root filessystem where ubuntu is installed
[05:52] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: luck
[05:52] <moi> ta
[05:52] <mwe> Samineru: try /media/
[05:52] <Samineru> mwe oh I was clicking the wrong one
[05:52] <Samineru> mwe ubuntu is on my second partition
[05:53] <rdemanow> anybody know gnubiff?  I can't get it to biff my remote imap mailbox.
[05:53] <Samineru> mwe but it doesnt seem to be letting me partition the 30 or so gigs of free space i have
[05:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Samineru:  is it raid sata?
[05:53] <mwe> rdemanow: is it any good? I've been using kbiff and mail-notification
[05:53] <Samineru> Jack Sparrow: huh?
[05:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Samineru: Sorry..
[05:54] <kurup> redemanow: have sent you menu.1st
[05:54] <bundy_all> hello to all
[05:54] <Jack_Sparrow> kurup: We need the pastebin #
[05:54] <TheGateKeeper> !networking
[05:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about networking - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:55] <kinkey_wizard> hello all
[05:55] <bundy_all> Can anybody tell me is that offer with free ubuntu cd is still valid ? Because I try to make registration but I do not receive any e-mail
[05:55] <magus_x> ubotu, : hotmail?
[05:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about : hotmail? - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:56] <magus_x> ops
[05:56] <magus_x> bundy_all, : hotmail?
[05:56] <bundy_all> no mail.ru
[05:56] <magus_x> :/
[05:56] <magus_x> wait some minuts
[05:56] <manmadha> can any one tell what is the diff between SDK & JRE
[05:56] <magus_x> it should arrive
[05:56] <manmadha> ?
[05:56] <magus_x> check your spam bot
[05:56] <magus_x> JRE -> Java
[05:56] <kurup> Jack_Sparrow: did you get it?
[05:56] <TheGateKeeper> !network
[05:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about network - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:56] <Kyral_Laptop> manmadha: SDK is for Devs, JRE is just the runtime
[05:56] <lostsync> SDK is for developers
[05:56] <Kyral_Laptop> oh and Hotmail sucks BTW
[05:56] <Jack_Sparrow> kurup: what was the number of the pastebin
[05:57] <bundy_all> lol I do not have any spam bot
[05:57] <mwe> manmadha: the former includes the compiler
[05:57] <manmadha> Kyral_Laptop, means?
[05:57] <lostsync> does someone need a gmail invite?
[05:57] <Jhair> manmadha: AFAIK sdk->standard Development kit. jre->java runtime environment
[05:57] <mwe> manmadha: jre is just the runtime
[05:57] <Kyral_Laptop> oh, and Java sucks :P
[05:57] <BlueEagle> manmadha: SDK = Software Development Kit, JRE = Java Runtime Environment.
[05:57] <Jhair> manmadha: you need the sdk to *build* java programs, jre suffices to run java programs
[05:57] <Jack_Sparrow> kurup: what was the number of the pastebin it gives a reference number so we can find it
[05:57] <rdemanow> kurup: looks like Windows is in there, have you re-run "grub-install hd0" as root?
[05:58] <harisund> Hello everyone! I want to know how well Ubuntu runs on AMD64 platform, and what it currently lacks. Any quick opinions/suggestions/advices?
[05:58] <Kyral_Laptop> harisund: lets just say its better than Windows :P
[05:58] <Jhair> harisund: I own an AMD64 laptop and runs very well
[05:58] <Samineru> it will not let me delete partition 6 and when I try to delete partition 5 it says I haveto delete 6 first: http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c28/Samineru/Untitled.png
[05:58] <harisund> Jhair how do you run applications that are 32bit only, if any? (I keep hearing something about Firefox, but haven't looked at it, till probably now)
[05:59] <vapermonkey> i am back with a nother unreal ?
[05:59] <Jhair> harisund: I run them inside a 32-bit chroot
[05:59] <Kyral_Laptop> Prolly because its a logical partition inside an Extended
[05:59] <vapermonkey> dennis@dennis:~$ ut2004
[05:59] <vapermonkey> Segmentation fault
[05:59] <vapermonkey> dennis@dennis:~$
[05:59] <manmadha> i am using amd 64 bit...i downloaded amd64 bit package from "sun" but when i tried to install it i am getting error....what is the prob??
[05:59] <harisund> Kyral_Laptop: I am not even attempting to compare it with Windows.
[05:59] <TheGateKeeper> harisund: has problems with codecs & flash https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[05:59] <kurup> rdemanow: I shall try again
[05:59] <Kyral_Laptop> vapermonkey: run "strace ut2006"
[05:59] <bundy_all> magus_x I use freeBSD since many years and now want to try ubuntu
[05:59] <Kyral_Laptop> but DON'T paste it here
[05:59] <Jhair> harisund: java, flash, skype are not available natively for amd64, I run all them inside the 32-bit chroot
[05:59] <Kyral_Laptop> err
[05:59] <Kyral_Laptop> s/ut2006/ut2004
[05:59] <bundy_all> and for that I ask is that offer are still valid ?
[05:59] <BlueEagle> samineru: run sudo swapoff before attempting to remove a swap partition.
[05:59] <Jhair> harisund: with java I mean the java plugin for firefox
[06:00] <harisund> TheGateKeeper: thanks for that page .. I am not particularly interestsed in multimedia applications, since I will be using Ubuntu at my work place only .. for purely technical reasons.
[06:00] <Kyral_Laptop> FreeBSD++ :P
[06:00] <mwe> Samineru: you can't delete active partitions
[06:00] <mwe> Samineru: you're trying to delete your swap partition?
[06:00] <BlueEagle> mwe: one of his swap partitions if you had taken the time to follow the link he provided. :)
[06:00] <Jhair> harisund: you can put scripts in your 64-bit environment so that you run firefox without entering the chroot manually, in that way you don't tell the difference you are running a 32-bit application
[06:00] <Samineru> blueeagle thanks and mwe im trying to delete every thing except the ubuntu filespace
[06:00] <harisund> Jhair: yeah I was thinking that .. ok .. what about the fglrx drivers and broadcomm drivers? I have run Ubuntu on this laptop before, only 32 bit, and I had to install fglrx drivers and use ndiswrapper. Will they work on 64 bit now?
[06:00] <TheGateKeeper> harisund: one for you know how I can substitute a computer name for an ip address?
[06:01] <Bob535> mwe, i dont think the partition table is intact, a windows machine detects the drive as unformatted
[06:01] <rdemanow> kurup: when you boot, GRUB should show a list of all the Linux kernels, then a line that says "Other operating systems:" followed by one that reads "Windows 2000"
[06:01] <harisund> TheGateKeeper: Create an entry for it in /etc/hosts. In /etc/hosts you wil find atleast one line that goes "127.0.0.1 localhost"
[06:01] <Jhair> harisund: I can only talk about ATI cards... and the support is... well for 2D the Xorg drivers work pretty good
[06:01] <mwe> windows doesn't see linux paritions I think
[06:01] <BlueEagle> samineru: If you look up the manual for swapoff and/or swapon there should be a way to specify which swap partitions you turn off and on if I am not mistaking.
[06:01] <Kyral_Laptop> Windows sees them
[06:01] <Bob535> mwe, it was my windows drive
[06:01] <Kyral_Laptop> just as "Unknown Type"
[06:01] <vapermonkey> ya i got it and it goes so fast
[06:01] <Kyral_Laptop> at best
[06:01] <Jhair> harisund: but for 3D is still problematic
[06:01] <harisund> TheGateKeeper: Just add another line for your machine. "192.168.0.15 NewMachine"
[06:01] <kurup> yes..it still does it. only thing is..when I scroll down to the bottom..It puts me back to the first line
[06:01] <ErenTurkay> hi all
[06:01] <manmadha> Jhair, can u tell how to write that script?
[06:02] <Samineru> blue eagle it still wont let me delete partition 6
[06:02] <harisund> Jhair: I am assuming lack of 3D support doesn't hinder day to day activities?
[06:02] <Bob535> it doesnt have a linux partition on it
[06:02] <ErenTurkay> is there a package for codecs, my friend doesn't listen to any music ?
[06:02] <Bob535> or at least i never put one on it
[06:02] <Kyral_Laptop> This is why FAT32 is still around lol
[06:02] <kurup> anyways..have run sudo grub-install /dev/hd0. hasn't reported any errors
[06:02] <harisund> Jhair: as I said, I am making the switch to Ubuntu-x64 for purely technical reasons, coding and the like and the fact that it would be easier for me at work ..
[06:02] <harisund> TheGateKeeper: did you get my previous message?
[06:02] <mwe> Samineru: I wonder why you have an 8MB swap partition
[06:02] <Kyral_Laptop> ..lol
[06:03] <Gun_Smoke> I am trying to get my NetGear WG111v2 adaper to work.  I am following instruction from http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=212365 I am running into a problem after running sudo rmmod bcm43xx  I get ERROR: Module bcm43xx does not exist in /proc/modules  Any ideas?
[06:03] <TheGateKeeper> harisund: yep hang on...
[06:03] <vapermonkey> it is done now what
[06:03] <kurup> it has written (hd0)   /dev/hda
[06:03] <kurup>  to device.map
[06:03] <Samineru> mwe I dont know but for simplicities sake I just made it take up that extra space
[06:03] <Kyral_Laptop> Gun_Smoke: lsmod | grep bcm43xx
[06:03] <Jhair> harisund: I mean just a simple shell script, e.g. for firefox a firefox.sh script which runs dchroot with firefox as parameter. Writing dchroot and then running the command each time is time consuming
[06:03] <harisund> Jhair: so I really don't mind not being able to play games, or run processer intensive 3D applications. Anyway, thanks a lot for whatever you have just taught me new.. got more confidences now :)
[06:03] <rdemanow> kurup hd0 is the GRUB alias for whatever your first hard drive is, it's not an actual Linux device file.  do the grub-install with just hd0 or (hd0) instead of /dev/hd0
[06:03] <Jack_Sparrow> kurup: Only difference in mine is no 0 after savedefault
[06:03] <vapermonkey> do u want to c it
[06:04] <mwe> Samineru: I see but you still seem to have free space
[06:04] <Gun_Smoke> lsmod | grep bcm43xx
[06:04] <Samineru> mwe hda5 says unmount hda6 first but it wont let me!
[06:04] <Gun_Smoke> ?
[06:04] <Samineru> mwe no as in just now, so there is no free space in hda6
[06:04] <Jhair> harisund: I use amd64 for pure technical reasons. I use it for software development (C++, Java, shell scripting) and is a great platform to work on (specially if you program server intensive applications).
[06:04] <Kyral_Laptop> vapermonkey: just look for thereason why it Segfaulted
[06:04] <Samineru> mwe *hda3
[06:04] <Kyral_Laptop> Gun_Smoke: yah...if the module is in it will return the line
[06:05] <vapermonkey> * BazziR (n=Bastian@p50
[06:05] <mwe> Samineru: what's the second to last line then?
[06:05] <Gun_Smoke> do I need to run as root?
[06:05] <Kyral_Laptop> Gun_Smoke: no
[06:05] <vapermonkey> close(6)                                = 0
[06:05] <vapermonkey> mprotect(0xb7afb000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE) = 0
[06:05] <vapermonkey> mprotect(0xb7afb000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC) = 0
[06:05] <vapermonkey> mprotect(0xb519d000, 7548928, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE) = 0
[06:05] <vapermonkey> mprotect(0xb519d000, 7548928, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC) = 0
[06:05] <vapermonkey> mprotect(0xb5906000, 417792, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE) = 0
[06:05] <Samineru> mwe i changed it after i took the screenshot\
[06:05] <vapermonkey> mprotect(0xb5906000, 417792, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC) = 0
[06:05] <vapermonkey> munmap(0xb5985000, 52572)               = 0
[06:05] <vapermonkey> open("/dev/zero", O_RDWR)               = 6
[06:05] <vapermonkey> mmap2(NULL, 8192, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 6, 0) = 0xb7af9000
[06:05] <mwe> Samineru: hm
[06:05] <vapermonkey> close(6)                                = 0
[06:05] <Kyral_Laptop> vapermonkey: I said Don"T PASTE IT!!
[06:05] <harisund> Jhair: right .. good to hear that. Do you know anything about sharing with Windows on a fa32 paritition. I want my Firefox, Thunderbird, Gaim and GnuPG profiles to remain the same across OS reboots.
[06:05] <vapermonkey> mmap2(NULL, 372736, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb5142000
[06:05] <vapermonkey> --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) @ 0 (0) ---
[06:05] <kurup> ok done. the same msg as before.should I try rebooting now ..or should I run update-grub?
[06:05] <vapermonkey> --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) @ 0 (0) ---
[06:05] <vapermonkey> +++ killed by SIGSEGV +++
[06:05] <vapermonkey> sorry it wasnt all of it
[06:05] <TheGateKeeper> harisund: trying to set up network printing for the moment on the win xp machine in hosts I have put a line 192.168.0.4 print-server but the ip address could change as it is not static want to replace 192.168.0.4 with the computer name of my kubuntu box??
[06:05] <Kyral_Laptop> ...you all saw me said don't paste
[06:05] <vapermonkey> i wasnt looking
[06:05] <mwe> Samineru: well sudo swapoff /dev/hda6 before you gksudo gparted I guess
[06:06] <Gun_Smoke> Kyral_Laptop:  Nothing happend..
[06:06] <Jhair> harisund: I don't use mounted fat32 partitions but it should not be any problem with recent ubuntu kernels
[06:06] <Kyral_Laptop> Gun_Smoke: then the module wasn't inserted
[06:06] <harisund> Jhair: Ok ..
[06:06] <Kyral_Laptop> Jhair: FAT32 shouldn't be a problem with Debian Woody :P
[06:06] <Kyral_Laptop> to give you an idea of how long FAT32 has been around
[06:06] <manmadha> hi my processor is amd  64 bit But i install the 32 bit package......can any one suggest the package to be installed for jre
[06:06] <manmadha> ?
[06:06] <Samineru> mwe im doing that and the terminal seems to be taking its sweet time
[06:06] <harisund> TheGateKeeper: wait. Let me get it right... You mean the IP address of the Windows box might change?
[06:06] <Gun_Smoke> Kyral_Laptop:  how do I inset it?
[06:07] <Kyral_Laptop> Gun_Smoke: sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[06:07] <mwe> Samineru: close gparted first though
[06:07] <Jhair> Kyral_Laptop: ouch I forgot about NTFS, well I use fat32 indirectly, for my mp3player
[06:07] <Samineru> did
[06:07] <harisund> manmadha: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[06:07] <kinkey> can anybody tell me what is the equivalent for the knoppix /etc/X11/Xsession.d/45xsession in the Dapper Drake liveCD ?
[06:07] <Samineru> mwe oh i also had disk managaer open
[06:07] <vapermonkey> so do u know
[06:07] <Kyral_Laptop> vapermonkey: nope :P
[06:07] <Jhair> not for windows partitions
[06:07] <mwe> Samineru: yeah close those
[06:07] <Samineru> mwe did
[06:07] <Samineru> mwe gparted is opening now
[06:07] <kinkey> and also, why there is no  /etc/X11/Xsession.d/45xsession in the dapper livecd ?
[06:08] <Kyral_Laptop> vapermonkey: but at least you learned about another debugging tool :P
[06:08] <mwe> Samineru: did the swapoff work?
[06:08] <Bob535> brb, im going to grab my other drive and see if I can get read access o nit
[06:08] <iratik> IF i want to set up a nameserver using bind9 - and I goto go daddy - why do people in this situation always register ns1.example.com and ns2.example.com, in other words- If I want to setup my own nameserver and register it with godaddy, do I have to register 2, and do those 2 have to actually point to separate IPs?
[06:08] <TheGateKeeper> well both might change as they use DHCP, but the printer is attached to the kubuntu box, and the win xp box wants to use it, followded these instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP
[06:08] <Samineru> mwe i think so, there were no errors
[06:08] <mwe> Samineru: then it should have worked
[06:08] <Kyral_Laptop> iratik: first you gotta register your NS "above" those with GoDaddy
[06:08] <GnarusLeo> !ipod
[06:08] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[06:08] <vapermonkey> #ut2004
[06:08] <Samineru> mwe: gparted is scannin the disks, the moment of truth
[06:08] <Kyral_Laptop> iratik: find the "Total Domain control" or whatever on there
[06:09] <Jhair> I would say: don't buy ipods :)
[06:09] <kinkey> nobody knows ?
[06:09] <visham> my mp3blaster screen is distorted can anyone help me
[06:09] <TheGateKeeper> harisund: well both might change as they use DHCP, but the printer is attached to the kubuntu box, and the win xp box wants to use it, followded these instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP
[06:09] <Samineru> mwe thank you so much!
[06:09] <harisund> TheGateKeeper: Well both OS have a hosts file yes, but if it is DHCP and they are likely to keep changing, it won't help creating a hosts entry  (in any OS).
[06:09] <mwe> Samineru: personally I use cfdisk for partitioning though
[06:09] <Kyral_Laptop> iratik: and punch in the name and IP of your DNS Server (this happens because the DNS Server has to have its own DNS entry and well, I think you get it :P)
[06:09] <harisund> TheGateKeeper: What you could do (as I did) is set your DHCP server (most likely your router) to give a static IP to your printer box ...
[06:09] <thomaswfry> question. when cron has a problem it sends an email to root. how can i redirect that email to go to my gmail account ?
[06:09] <Samineru> mwe what format do you suggest i put the 30gigs of space sitting there in?
[06:10] <visham> hi folks
[06:10] <kinkey> ok nevermind, thanks guys :D
[06:10] <mwe> Samineru: are you going to share it with windows?
[06:10] <harisund> Has anybody installed Windows using qemu here?
[06:10] <GnarusLeo> wich is better to use with iPod: Banshee or amarok?
[06:10] <visham> can anyone help me to correct my screen
[06:10] <Kyral_Laptop> GnarusLeo: either or
[06:10] <Kyral_Laptop> GnarusLeo: matter of taste
[06:10] <Samineru> mwe well im going to reformat my computer soon anyways so no
[06:10] <BlueEagle> !info banshee
[06:10] <Samineru> samineru for now im 100% ubuntu
[06:10] <ubotu> banshee: Audio Management and Playback application. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.10.10-0ubuntu10 (dapper), package size 870 kB, installed size 2744 kB
[06:10] <Jhair> harisund: I do run windows xp on a vm virtual machine created with qemu (I run the windows xp image with vmplayer)
[06:10] <GnarusLeo> Kyral_Laptop, is there any big difference? I love amarok as my music player
[06:10] <Samineru> *mwe for now im 100% ubuntu
[06:10] <Kyral_Laptop> GnarusLeo: nope
[06:11] <mwe> Samineru: but are you going to access the space from both windows and linux
[06:11] <GnarusLeo> Kyral_Laptop, thanks, then I will continiue using amarok :)
[06:11] <Kyral_Laptop> GnarusLeo: like most things in the Open Source world, its a matter of opinion
[06:11] <Samineru> mwe no
[06:11] <mwe> Samineru: if so ext3
[06:11] <kinkey> where could i find the initrd content of the dapper drake ?
[06:11] <BlueEagle> gnarusleo: if banshee uses the gtk widget set then I think that would be preferable as Amarok uses the QT widget set and is imho better for kubuntu desktops.
[06:11] <GnarusLeo> BlueEagle, im using kubuntu
[06:11] <Kyral_Laptop> BlueEagle: you mean KDE and GNOME :P
[06:11] <harisund> Jhair: sweet. just the person I need info from again. First, how much is the performance hit? And second, are changes saved in the Windows image constant across repeated access? I mean, when you shut down and restart your Windows vmimage, are the changes you made seen?
[06:12] <visham> can anyone solve my problem
[06:12] <GnarusLeo> Ill give banshee a try
[06:12] <BlueEagle> kyral_laptop: No, I mean GTK and QT (which incidentally happens to be the widget sets used by Gnome and KDE)
[06:12] <Kyral_Laptop> BlueEagle: I know all about it
[06:12] <ych> ummmmm
[06:12] <George> how do I change the default fixed font on my system?
[06:12] <BazziR> Kyral_Laptop: Well, Ubuntu goes where no man has gone before(tm)!
[06:13] <George> I want 7x13.pcf.gz and not 12x13ja.pcf.gz
[06:13] <ych> im trying to install quake3 and nothing much is happening
[06:13] <albacker> how do i install mod_php for ubuntu frm apt-get should i ge this package libapache2-mod-suphp ?
[06:13] <ych> it asks for my root pw
[06:13] <bretzel> He there, after googling for an hour and seeking for it with no success, Where can I get USP ??? < ubuntu-system-panel > ?
[06:13] <ych> and then nothing happens
[06:13] <ych> dont have a promt in the terminal
[06:13] <iratik> So why are there always 2 nameservers registered?
[06:13] <GnarusLeo> BlueEagle, as we are on this topic :) I dont have gnome, but use several gnome apps ... but it looks like these wants to use some sort of gnome icons ... so only a red cross appears on several buttons .. can I get a gnome-icon package or something?
[06:13] <ych> but its not doing anything either
[06:13] <BlueEagle> kyral_laptop: ...and the difference is _mainly_ the wm used not _only_ the wm used. :)
[06:13] <Kyral_Laptop> BlueEagle: I meant that I was trying to substitue the terms "KDE" and "GNOME" for "Kubuntu" and "Ubuntu" in this context
[06:13] <visham> hey is anyone listening to me
[06:13] <visham> hey is anyone listening to me
[06:13] <Jhair> harisund: actually that part is really cool with vmplayer. When you shutdown the vm (e.g. with Start->Shutdown in the windows screen) changes are saved as with a normal session. If you close the vmplayer window instead, something similar to an hibernation ocurs, i.e. when you start the vm again you are exactly at the same point where you shut it down.
[06:13] <Miek> ych: are you running the installer with sudo?
[06:13] <Kyral_Laptop> BlueEagle: they pull from the same repos
[06:14] <harisund> Jhair: And this on a AMD64 Ubuntu? Awesome ....
[06:14] <ych> ummmm no, but i entered the root pw
[06:14] <BlueEagle> kyral_laptop: Yes, but not the same stuff from the repos. :)
[06:14] <SeanTater> visham: I heard you
[06:14] <Gun_Smoke> Kyral_Laptop:  I received the same ERROR for the ndiswrapper, will sudo modprobe ndiswrapper correct this aswell?
[06:14] <iratik> And once I do register a nameserver - does that mean that I will be able to define my own DNS records independent from go daddy (Except for the registration of my own nameservers?)?
[06:14] <Kyral_Laptop> BlueEagle: *falls down* I think you missed my point
[06:14] <SeanTater> visham: flooding will not help your case if you do it too much
[06:14] <ych> ok thanks for the help
[06:14] <moi> opppps
[06:14] <GnarusLeo> banshee looks like CRAP :D
[06:14] <BlueEagle> kyral_laptop: No, I am just being pedantic.
[06:14] <harisund> Jhair: And if you are connected to the internet in your Ubuntu, does Windows see it?
[06:14] <SeanTater> visham: now what is wrong with your screen
[06:14] <ych> i Ctrl C'd it and sudoed it
[06:14] <harisund> And sound?
[06:14] <ych> now it works
[06:14] <visham> SeanTater: can u solve my problem the mp3blaster screen is scrwed up
[06:14] <moi> Jack_Sparrow
[06:14] <Jhair> harisund: yes AMD64 ubuntu :). you should take care to create big enough partitions for your windows vm. I didn't and then to risize the ntfs partitions is possible but rather tricky
[06:14] <Kyral_Laptop> iratik: yes, but you still have to point the Registration to the nameservers
[06:14] <thomaswfry> anyone here familiar with email on ubuntu ?
[06:15] <Jhair> s/risize/resize
[06:15] <thomaswfry> i need to redirects root mail to someone else
[06:15] <Kyral_Laptop> BlueEagle: oy...I'm gonna go play video games
[06:15] <SeanTater> visham: I really know nothing about mp3blaster
[06:15] <harisund> Jhair: ah yes, the space constraint. I will take care of that no problem. What about sound and internet inside of the Windows partition?
[06:15] <GnarusLeo> BlueEagle a d , as we are on this topic :) I dont have gnome, but use several gnome apps ... but it looks like these wants to use some sort of gnome icons ... so only a red cross appears on several buttons .. can I get a gnome-icon package or something?
[06:15] <BlueEagle> kyral_laptop: Bahh.. arguing with me is way more fun. :)
[06:15] <harisund> Jhair: I mean, Windows image?
[06:15] <Jhair> harisund: yes, the virtual machine recognizes the internet connection (even the vpn connection I have with my office). I use a NAT option in the vm configuration file
[06:15] <visham> SeanTater: can u tell me how to change the font, colors etc on the teminal screen?
[06:15] <longwave> thomaswfry: /etc/aliases should let you redirect root's mail to another local user
[06:15] <BlueEagle> gnarusleo: yes, yes. got a few conversations going but I'll get to you in just a sec.
[06:15] <BlueEagle> :)
[06:16] <thomaswfry> thanks longwave
[06:16] <SeanTater> visham: only for kde programs, I do not use gnome and know little about it
[06:16] <GnarusLeo> Blue-Omega, actually where trying to copy it, and i pressed enter :) Sorry
[06:16] <Jhair> harisund: sound works flawlessly too. The only problem I haven't solve is the windows registration which seems only to work on real hardware
[06:16] <harisund> Jhair: awsome. I think I am going to go ahead and get the 64bit dual booting on my laptop. Neato! Thanks a ton Jhair
[06:16] <harisund> Jhair: uh oh .. that means it will expire?
[06:16] <visham> SeanTater: i am talking about the screen when gdm is off
[06:16] <Skaag> what's a simple personal firewall for ubuntu?
[06:16] <longwave> !firewall
[06:16] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[06:17] <Skaag> I mean for systems with just one network interface
[06:17] <Jhair> harisund: in my case it expires after 30 days. I am not 100% sure is a windows issue (that windows accept my license only on real hardware) or that my license is broken.
[06:17] <ych> oh great now i got this error:
[06:17] <ych> Sys_Error: Couldn't load default.cfg
[06:17] <BlueEagle> gnarusleo: sudo aptitude install gnome-icon-theme might help
[06:17] <Skaag> shorewall has a web interface now?
[06:17] <ych> when i try to run q3
[06:17] <SeanTater> visham: It's possible, but only to an extent, I think only the colors can be changed
[06:17] <GnarusLeo> thanks BlueEagle
[06:17] <harisund> Jhair: I wil try it and let you know. Thanks a ton man, seriously. I am going to take off now to install a dual boot.
[06:17] <harisund> You were just super.
[06:17] <Samineru> mwe I just got this problem, and got the same one last night with synaptics: Failed to run disks-admin as user root:
[06:17] <Samineru>  Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.
[06:17] <SeanTater> visham: AFAIK, the fonts remain the same
[06:17] <longwave> Skaag: yeah, shorewall has a webmin module now
[06:17] <GnarusLeo> BlueEagle, nah, didnt help
[06:17] <Skaag> i hate webmin, i'll stick to the CLI... thanks
[06:18] <Jhair> harisund: ok, have fun!
[06:18] <GnarusLeo> BlueEagle, tried that allready you see
[06:18] <SeanTater> visham: most people using Ubuntu do not need that terminal, is there a reason you do?
[06:18] <inc|freaky> how can i configure additional locales in ubuntu? dpkg-reconfigure locales doesnt work
[06:18] <Gun_Smoke> how can I find out what kernel I have
[06:18] <longwave> Gun_Smoke: "uname -a"
[06:18] <inc|freaky> Gun_Smoke: uname -r
[06:18] <visham> Gun_Smoke: uname -a
[06:19] <BlueEagle> gnarusleo: did you try the ubuntu-artwork package?
[06:19] <SeanTater> Gun_Smoke: I have the feeling everyone has the same idea in mind
[06:19] <voraistos> hey guys. i gat some wifi problem ;) i have a nec/aterm/warpstar card (atheros compatible), and i would like to make it work (its on pcmcia, i made it work on a whax system once)
[06:19] <BlueEagle> gnarusleo: not sure if that contains icons tho.
[06:19] <GnarusLeo> BlueEagle, Ill try, thanks
[06:19] <Samineru> can someone help me, I suddenly no longer have the ability to run synaptics package managaer or disk managaer
[06:20] <GnarusLeo> BlueEagle, didnt help .. but never mind, ill search the web like every other fool :) Thanks anyway
[06:20] <voraistos> can u help? it didnt work with ubuntu kernel so i compiled my own. i think it might be ndis related
[06:20] <jrib> Samineru: what does 'gksudo synaptic' in a terminal say?
[06:21] <Samineru> jrib, smame error
[06:21] <Gun_Smoke> I get 2.6.15-23-386
[06:21] <Gun_Smoke> is it just  2.6?
[06:22] <jrib> Samineru: oh, ok I just saw the error.  What does 'ls -l ~/.Xauthority ~/.ICEauthority' say?
[06:22] <Samineru> jrib, and No space left on devicerob@lappy:~$
[06:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Which is safer gksudo nautilus or sudo nautilus --no-desktop /media
[06:22] <jrib> Samineru: in that case, you should free up some space
[06:23] <Samineru> jrib, I know for a fact my disk is not full
[06:23] <Dysk> Any of you all have problems with azureus error messages refusing to go away?
[06:23] <polpak> Jack_Sparrow: you should always use gksudo for graphical programs otherwise the environment won't be setup properly
[06:23] <jrib> Samineru: the 'df' command says it isn't full?
[06:24] <Samineru> /dev/hda4             21773908  20667812        24 100% /
[06:24] <Jack_Sparrow> polpak: I have seen people suggest both, so wanted to clarify
[06:24] <byen> hey guys my terminal seems to be borked i have this on my prompt:" byen@xblade:/$" and it does not let me do anything
[06:24] <longwave> Samineru: the 100% means it is full to users, some space is reserved for root only to use
[06:24] <Samineru> jrib: /dev/hda4             total21773908  used20667812        24 100% /
[06:24] <andrew__> hello how do i tell ubuntu what kernel to install drivers and stuff for
[06:24] <Samineru> longwave thats why I want to be able to mount my partition
[06:24] <Jhair> polpak: which environment variables does set gksudo correctly? I thought gksudo was just a graphical wrapper around sudo
[06:24] <Gun_Smoke> I'm trying to figure out this command. In the terminal cd to /lib/modules/kernel[version] /kernel/drivers/net/wireless where kernelversion is the kernel version ubuntu is currently using  after uname -a I get 2.6.15-23-386
[06:25] <iratik> How do I test a pop/courier setup - I have ISP Config, but you can't login till you receive an email. Well the ISP Config server is the only server with the nameserver setup to map the fqdn of the address i would need to send to (not linked with godaddy yet). Is there a way to send an email to a user locally from the ISP Config server itself?
[06:25] <longwave> Gun_Smoke: in that case it's probably /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/kernel/drives/net/wireless
[06:26] <Samineru> longwave:  rob@lappy:~$ gksudo mount /dev/hda1
[06:26] <Samineru> mount: can't find '/dev/hda1' in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[06:27] <Gun_Smoke> longwave:  Thanks
[06:27] <byen> hey guys my terminal seems to be borked i have this on my prompt:" user@terminal:/$" and it does not let me do anything
[06:27] <Jhair> byen: type reset
[06:27] <nuckwoo> hello!
[06:28] <nuckwoo> I,m freshman
[06:28] <Jack_Sparrow> 832 people yell hello back
[06:28] <Jhair> byen: reset ENTER (does not matter if you don't see anything in the terminal (sometimes this fixes broken terminals, not always))
[06:28] <Samineru> hello!
[06:28] <Mozo> Hi!
[06:28] <nuckwoo> who can help me?
[06:28] <byen> Jhair, no change :(
[06:28] <polpak> Jhair: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=165957
[06:28] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask
[06:28] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:28] <Mozo> Can I install ubuntu via network??
[06:28] <iratik> Can someone give me a sendmail example?
[06:28] <Jack_Sparrow> !install
[06:28] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[06:29] <iratik> man sendmail doesn't give an example, it gives the usual argument soup
[06:29] <Jhair> byen: are you working on an xterm? in that case the only fix is to close it and a start a new one I am afraid...
[06:29] <polpak> Jhair: and this http://archlinux.org/pipermail/arch/2006-February/008674.html
[06:29] <jcn_> Can someone help me with a disk "Buffer I/O error" ? I have not run fsck manually before and I'm terrified
[06:29] <byen> Jhair, just the terminal
[06:29] <byen> nuthing else
[06:29] <iratik> sendmail user@example.com 'hello' ? is that close?
[06:29] <jrib> iratik: sendmail myfriend@yahoo.com
[06:29] <Chris0r> !upgrade
[06:29] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[06:29] <jrib> iratik: then type your message, and end it wiht ctrl-D
[06:29] <nuckwoo> My vga card is intel intergrated
[06:30] <Pulshion> Hi, i was woundering how come a video and sound works in mplayer but only sound in VLC.
[06:30] <Jhair> polpak: thanks for the pointers, I didn't knew about all those differences. Thanks!
[06:30] <jrib> Pulshion: what codec does the video use?
[06:30] <Samineru> can someone help with why I cannot mount /dev/hda1
[06:30] <iratik> jrib: And it doesn't return anything?
[06:30] <Poromenos> can i use date variables in cron, in the command?
[06:30] <Pulshion> jrib -- how do i check?
[06:30] <jrib> iratik: I don't think so
[06:30] <jcn_> Can someone help me with a disk "Buffer I/O error" ? I have not run fsck manually before and I'm terrified that my disk is failing
[06:30] <iratik> I'll just have to look on my mailserver
[06:30] <jrib> Pulshion: right click on the file, click properties, and then go to audio/video tab iirc
[06:31] <iratik> How do I manually check mail in a MailDir setup? is it ~/MailDir?
[06:31] <Pulshion> jrib -- MS WMV 9 (win32)
[06:31] <iratik> Or is there a guide somewhere on how to manually check send and receive emails without using clients?
[06:31] <Pulshion> jrib -- shouldnt it work because it works in mplayer
[06:31] <jrib> Pulshion: vlc can't play wmv9
[06:32] <jrib> Pulshion: (wihtout a recompile)
[06:32] <Pulshion> jrib -- oh, how do i do that?
[06:33] <jrib> Pulshion: google for nanocrew vlc wmv  that should turn it up
[06:33] <Poromenos1> connection dropped, sorry
[06:33] <lilbit> I am running vmware on dapper, does anyone here know how I change the IP of VMnet1?
[06:33] <Poromenos1> variables in cron commands, anyone?
[06:33] <lilbit> In windows I know how, but I dont know in Linux
[06:33] <Jack_Sparrow> jcn_: have you been writing to an ntfs drive?
[06:33] <Pulshion> jrib -- ok thank you
[06:33] <lilbit> is it a config file maybe?
[06:33] <jcn_> Jack_Sparrow, no -- ext3
[06:33] <Poromenos> lilbit: it's in networking preferences
[06:33] <Jack_Sparrow> jcn_: Had to ask..
[06:34] <jrib> Pulshion: imo it isn't worth the bother, just stick with mplayer or xine for those videos
[06:34] <jcn_> Jack_Sparrow, I can understand that :)
[06:34] <Poromenos> if it's the bridged controller
[06:34] <Pulshion> jrib -- can i slow down the video in slow mo in mplayer?
[06:34] <pablo_> hi
[06:34] <lilbit> Poromenos, lets say I use gnome to get there, are you saying system, then administration, then networking?
[06:35] <pablo_> which video card do you recommend for ubuntu?
[06:35] <lilbit> Poromenos, because I looked there
[06:35] <jrib> Pulshion: yes, use { or [ to slow down and } or ]  to speed up.  {} speed up/slow down more
[06:35] <jcn_> Jack_Sparrow, what happened was that the dev mounted normally but this morning it would not allow me to save a file (said the directory was r/o). I took the box down and on restart, fsck failed and suggested I run it manually (no -a, no -p)
[06:35] <Jack_Sparrow> pablo_: nvidia
[06:35] <jrib> Pulshion: backspace key resets speed
[06:35] <Poromenos> lilbit: yes, and then ethernet adapter
[06:35] <Pulshion> jrib -- oh thank you very much, haha i didnt know that
[06:35] <shawnr_> anyone know anything better then penguinTV and democracy player?
[06:35] <Poromenos> lilbit: you should configure it manually
[06:36] <Jack_Sparrow> jcn_: that does not sound good, someone with more cli experience would be a better choice to help you with that..
[06:36] <jcn_> Jack_Sparrow, thanks
[06:36] <gorski> i need a program to control my broadband!
[06:36] <jcn_> Anyone here with experience running fsck to recover from a disk error?
[06:36] <lilbit> Poromenos, when I look in there I see only the ethernet adapter, I dont see the vmnet adapters
[06:36] <Nuked> is there a new release of ubuntu?
[06:37] <Poromenos> lilbit: the ethernet adapter IS the vmnet adapter
[06:37] <Samineru> noone feels like helping me?
[06:37] <Jack_Sparrow> jcn_: there is a bootable cd that might help... http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[06:37] <Poromenos> there are also the preferences in VMware itself, in some menu, networking
[06:37] <mwe> jcn_: just run fsck on the partition. you might have to do it from a live cd if it's the root partition
[06:37] <Warbo> gorski: What type of broadband hardware are you using?
[06:37] <Poromenos> Samineru: what was your question?
[06:37] <gorski> dsl
[06:37] <lilbit> Poromenos, but it anly affords me the assignment of one IP, or DHCP
[06:37] <deniz_ogut> Hi dear friends. Is there a problem with viewing the main page www.ubuntu.com? Uppermost reght column seems to be "cut" in some way. I can view just one half of it. OS: Ubuntu. Browser: Firefox.
[06:37] <jcn_> Jack_Sparrow, thanks
[06:37] <Poromenos> lilbit: what do you want to do?
[06:37] <Warbo> gorski: No, what hardware?
[06:37] <jcn_> mwe, what switches should I use? It is not the root partn
[06:37] <Samineru> poromenos,  i am not able to mount my hda1 partition
[06:38] <jcn_> mwe, the fs is ext3
[06:38] <albacker> guys what do i need to get this : configure: error: Cannot find freetype-config
[06:38] <gorski> siemens adsl modem
[06:38] <Poromenos> Samineru: ah, what type is it?
[06:38] <Samineru> I am getting this error when I attempt to rob@lappy:~$ gksudo mount /dev/hda1
[06:38] <Samineru> mount: can't find '/dev/hda1' in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[06:38] <kitsuneofdoom> Hey...I'm trying to use partimage from the Ubuntu Universe repositories, and it's giving me an error about an uncompatible version of gcc. Ubuntu 6.06-64 bit (that is, 64 bit ubuntu, as well as a 64 bit processor)
[06:38] <rabbi1> does anyone know a good irc client for GNOME?
[06:38] <Samineru> poromenos, it's ext3
[06:38] <shawnr_> anyone know anything better then penguinTV and democracy player?
[06:38] <gorski> ?
[06:38] <Poromenos> Samineru: i think you need to add it to fstab
[06:38] <Warbo> gorski: I have never used one of those sorry :( (I assume it is USB)
[06:38] <lilbit> Poromenos, I am test driving "Astaro" its a firewall distro, I downloaded their virtual appliance and I have opened it
[06:38] <Samineru> poromenos and how do i do that?
[06:38] <Jack_Sparrow> gorski: USB or ?
[06:38] <gorski> no it is network
[06:38] <Poromenos> Samineru: hmm, i don't know exactly, try google? :/
[06:38] <Warbo> ethernet?
[06:38] <Poromenos> lilbit: why don't you just bridge it to your network? do you have a DHCP server?
[06:39] <lilbit> Poromenos, it appears to have an IP of 192.168.150.50 and my compuuter is on the 192.168.5.0 network
[06:39] <Warbo> Ethernet can be contolled like any other network, with System>Admin>Networking
[06:39] <lilbit> Poromenos, I'll try that
[06:39] <Poromenos> lilbit: that's because the address of the internal and external networks are unrelated
[06:39] <Poromenos> unless you bridge it
[06:40] <anne-cecile> innnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
[06:40] <Poromenos> how can i use date variables in cron?
[06:40] <rabbi1> does anyone know a good irc client for GNOME?
[06:41] <shawnr_> xchat
[06:41] <Warbo> I don't understand CRON, but I like GNOME Schedule
[06:41] <Poromenos> rabbi1: opera?
[06:41] <Nuked> xchat-gnome
[06:41] <Warbo> !info gnome-schedule
[06:41] <ubotu> gnome-schedule: GNOME scheduler for automatic tasks. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 507 kB, installed size 3708 kB
[06:41] <Poromenos> aha, nice
[06:41] <kitsuneofdoom> I third it. Xchamt. Unless you like text mode
[06:41] <shawnr_> eww xchat-gnome blows
[06:41] <Jack_Sparrow> rabbi1: I like konversation, but it does pull in a fair amount of stuff from kde
[06:41] <gorski> i just want to monitor broadband, which program should i use?
[06:41] <deniz_ogut> Hi dear friends. Is there a problem with viewing the main page www.ubuntu.com? Uppermost reght column seems to be "cut" in some way. I can view just one half of it. OS: Ubuntu. Browser: Firefox.
[06:41] <shawnr_> just plain old xchat is much better
[06:41] <Warbo> gorski: System>Admin>System Monitor
[06:41] <Nuked> shawnr_, I agree, but it is for gonme
[06:41] <jcn_> rabbi1, another happy xchat user
[06:41] <kitsuneofdoom> Hey...I'm trying to use partimage from the Ubuntu Universe repositories, and it's giving me an error about an uncompatible version of gcc. Ubuntu 6.06-64 bit (that is, 64 bit ubuntu, as well as a 64 bit processor)
[06:42] <Nuked> gnome*
[06:42] <iratik> Extended ISPConfig Tutorial - I'm done with ISPConfig setup on ubuntu dapper 6.06 , I need to get everything up correctly and I'm having difficulty with the logistics of the sites/dns/mailserver all worked out -Can anyone point to where to look?
[06:42] <mwe> Nuked: hey 
[06:42] <sparkleytone> iratik: what do you mean "logistics" ?
[06:42] <gorski> thank you.
[06:42] <sparkleytone> iratik: you used the "Perfect Setup", right?
[06:42] <Nuked> hello mwe!
[06:42] <iratik> yep
[06:42] <shawnr_> anyone know anything better then penguinTV and democracy player?
[06:42] <iratik> perfectly, it works great
[06:42] <Jack_Sparrow> kitsuneofdoom: HAve you done much updating/downloading outside of the repos?
[06:43] <jcn_> mwe, what switches should I use to run fsck against my problem disk ? (It is not the root partn and the f/s is ext3)
[06:43] <sparkleytone> iratik: make sure you preface with my name...otherwise you'll get lost in the noise
[06:43] <Warbo> shawnr_: I use them to aggregate video podcasts, but I use Totem to play the files
[06:43] <rabbi1> jcn_: xchat eh? I'll check it out...
[06:43] <ucordes> hi there. i have problems installing my fglrx.
[06:43] <kitsuneofdoom> Jack_Sparrow: not a lot, no
[06:43] <sparkleytone> iratik: so be more specific about what you mean by logistics...
[06:43] <iratik> sparkleytone: Well I setup a site, and check create DNS record - I go to DNS manager and nothing is there - yet the domain goes to the correct directory on the server . But nslookup localhost from the ispconfig server returns the wrong answer - and I can't get mail to deliver to the right domain
[06:43] <shawnr_> Warbo, know a better one?
[06:43] <gorski> can i put system monitor in trayicon?
[06:43] <mwe> jcn_: well you should at scim 'man fsck' to see how they work. by default it fixes errors IIRC
[06:43] <Warbo> shawnr_: Nope
[06:43] <Jack_Sparrow> kitsuneofdoom: What have you grabbed outside the repos?
[06:43] <shawnr_> they suck
[06:43] <sparkleytone> iratik: lets go /query
[06:44] <Nuked> I hear there is a new ubuntu release
[06:44] <Warbo> gorski: There is a network monitoring panel applet
[06:44] <jcn_> mwe, thanks, will man fsck
[06:44] <ucordes> synpatics claims fglrx is installed but when i try running opnegl apps they are kind of slow
[06:44] <vapermonkey> opengl can i have it?
[06:44] <Warbo> gorski: Right click on some empty bit of panel and Add To Panel
[06:44] <Nuked> can anyone verify this? http://www.madpenguin.org/cms/?m=show&id=7347
[06:44] <kitsuneofdoom> Jack_Sparrow: hmmmm...well...gnash, but it didn't work
[06:44] <jcn_> Anyone have experience using fsck to check and (hopefully) fix a disk problem?
[06:44] <Ng> Nuked: if you're already got dapper installed and are keeping it up to date, you already have that :)
[06:44] <Warbo> jcn_: I had to a few days ago
[06:44] <Jack_Sparrow> kitsuneofdoom: then your problem starts there
[06:44] <kitsuneofdoom> Jack_Sparrow: and I tried automatix today...just to get a few things...
[06:45] <Jack_Sparrow> kitsuneofdoom: and from bad to worse
[06:45] <kitsuneofdoom> Jack_Sparrow: I checkinstalled gnash, and uninstalled it
[06:45] <Nuked> ng thanks for the info
[06:45] <jcn_> Warbo, can you give me a hand, then? I'm terrified ... lot of data at risk :(
[06:45] <gorski> thank you
[06:45] <Pretoriano> ops
[06:46] <moi> Jack_Sparrow: oppppps..... should have listened
[06:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Nuked: running 6.06 here as are many
[06:46] <Jack_Sparrow> moi what..
[06:46] <Warbo> jcn_: Personally I just run fsck, if it tells me I have to run it manually then I do, and if it comes up errors I hold down the "Y" key. After that I check in the lost+found folder :)
[06:46] <moi> Jack_Sparrow: its bugged up my extened partition
[06:46] <albacker> what to do about this :  checking for LCMS... configure: error: --enable-lcms was specified, but appropriate LittleCms development packages could not be found
[06:46] <tck> just after downloading 6.06.1 dapper, still REALLY slow to install via espresso
[06:46] <Ng> Warbo: you can use fsck -y and it'll automagically answer yes to itself :)
[06:46] <moi> Jack_Sparrow: all my personal data is gone lol
[06:46] <jcn_> Warbo, it's coming up errors and I don't know what to make of them.
[06:46] <kitsuneofdoom> Jack_Sparrow: I still have the standard Ubuntu version of gcc
[06:46] <tck> anyone else having this problems ?
[06:46] <iratik> sparkleytone: You can't read what i'm saying in the pvt?
[06:46] <Warbo> jcn_: Neither do I, that's why I hold down Y :)
[06:47] <sparkleytone> iratik: no
[06:47] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: how,what,owwww
[06:47] <jcn_> Warbo ... i see :)
[06:47] <rabbi1> anyone know if there are big differences in 3d app performance between different linuxes? from my experience ubuntu runs 3D apps a bit faster than kubuntu...
[06:47] <moi> Jack_Sparrow: even though it was only suposed to be reading from that drive!
[06:47] <sparkleytone> iratik: /msg me
[06:47] <Warbo> Ubuntu and Kubuntu are the same distro anyway
[06:47] <mako> ompaul: hey, i'm about now
[06:47] <iratik> sparkleytone: I have to identify myself
[06:47] <ompaul> mako, phone?
[06:47] <ucordes> !fglrx
[06:47] <jcn_> I think I really need help with this one; it's showing errors (using the -n switch "just show what would be done") that prevent it from finishing the check
[06:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:47] <Warbo> rabbi1: Probably you have loads of background programs running in Kubuntu
[06:47] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: dont tell me if and of reversed ?
[06:48] <moi> Jack_Sparrow: my windows partition and ext3 are fine, but the extended with all my stuff in is trashed
[06:48] <tck> anyone else use a dell  inspiron & dapper
[06:48] <kitsuneofdoom> Jack_Sparrow: at least I think so... 4.0.3-1ubuntu5
[06:49] <moi> Jack_Sparrow: somthing like that, I dunno, going to try some rescue tools tomorrow... *sigh*
[06:49] <bernouli> how do you activate your wifi device?
[06:50] <Jack_Sparrow> moi: it copied xp and your ext3 fine but hosed the source drive extended.. that makes no sense
[06:50] <moi> Jack_Sparrow: anyway, have had enough for one day, going to use the fustration for good sex. lol yeah no sence at all!
[06:50] <Jack_Sparrow> goodnight
[06:51] <moi> night m8, see you on the morrow
[06:51] <Jack_Sparrow> !wifi > bernouli
[06:51] <jcn_> Can anyone point me to help with fsck, or a channel where I can get help with it, because this looks like a real problem with my disk
[06:51] <byen> hello guys, I have an issue with the terminal. It refuses to do the most basic funtions... atm the prompt stands at :byen@xblade:/$
[06:51] <kitsuneofdoom> Jack_Sparrow: Error: sizeof(DWORD) != 4 (8)
[06:51] <kitsuneofdoom> This version has been compiled with an uncompatible version of gcc.
[06:51] <byen> how can i fix this
[06:52] <Warbo> Nautilus's spatial mode doesn't like E16's virtual desktops :( It saves it's position as somewhere between a few workspaces (haven't tried it on multiple desktops yet though)
[06:52] <trappist> byen: basic functions like what
[06:53] <byen> like say cd to a directory
[06:53] <Dimensions> any one into TCL scripting
[06:53] <Dimensions> ?
[06:53] <jcn_> If I cannot fix this disk, can I mount the partition r/o even though fsck fails to complete?
[06:53] <byen> my terminal prompt says byen@xblade:/$
[06:53] <trappist> byen: what happens when you try.
[06:53] <gorski> i installed edubuntu desktop and now it is default desktop at startup. How to change that?
[06:53] <Jack_Sparrow> kitsuneofdoom: automatix works 95% of the time...  that is why the warning.. Use at your own risk..  and why I never suggest it.. That said I would uninstall gcc (and purge) and reinstall
[06:53] <Warbo> byen: You are in / for some reason. Run "cd2 to get into your home
[06:53] <trappist> jcn_: depends on the extent of the damage.  you can try.
[06:54] <Warbo> *"cd"
[06:54] <kitsuneofdoom> Jack_Sparrow: thError: sizeof(DWORD) != 4 (8)
[06:54] <kitsuneofdoom> This version has been compiled with an uncompatible version of gcc.
[06:54] <kitsuneofdoom> Jack_Sparrow: sorry...hit something by mistake...dumb laptop keyboard
[06:54] <jcn_> trappist, are you familiar with fsck? Can you help me work out what to do when it aborts on an error during the check?
[06:54] <Jack_Sparrow> kitsuneofdoom: I have fat fingers
[06:54] <kitsuneofdoom> Jack_Sparrow: other things work, however...shouldn't a lot more be broken if gcc was changed?
[06:54] <byen> Warbo, but how can i make that happen everytime the terminal starts?
[06:54] <ciaron> how do i stop dhcpclient overriding resolv.conf settings?
[06:55] <kitsuneofdoom> Jack_Sparrow: Also, gcc doesn't appear to be changed...what's the current version on the repositories?
[06:55] <trappist> jcn_: different filesystems have different fsck options.  try man fsck.reiserfs for example to see what's available
[06:55] <Jack_Sparrow> kitsuneofdoom: I cant begin to tell you what automatix hosed up for you... I make regular backups. just in case, Just one line in a terminal would have saved you.
[06:55] <jcn_> trappist, it's an ext3 f/s and I've read the man page for fsck itself, but not yet for ext3
[06:55] <trappist> byen: maybe your home directory is set incorrectly in /etc/passwd
[06:55] <Warbo> byen: Where are you running your session from? If a) gnome-session has been started manually from / then this would happen, or maybe you have a weird launcher for your terminal (adesklets makes the terminal start in the path to the launcher script)
[06:56] <BrokenPipe> I'm having trouble getting gcc installed correctly for  ./configure to see it.  Is there a GCC or build tools help page?
[06:56] <kitsuneofdoom> Jack_Sparrow: I just used it to get gnash and java...
[06:56] <bernouli> Jack_Sparrow, thans for that docu, i found that my mac address is not correct, i dont know how to correct this, can i just reinstall ubuntu? maybe it is faster
[06:56] <ProN00b> can i somehow set my ubuntu to flush data to disk more often so i loose less on power outages ?
[06:56] <Warbo> byen: "gnome-terminal --working-dir=/home/whatever" I think is the syntax to force it. Maybe use Alacarte to change it
[06:57] <Warbo> !compile > BrokenPipe
[06:57] <MarcN> ProN00b: you are probably using the ext3 file system which is a journaling file system.  You won't lose saved data.
[06:57] <Chris0r> Fetched 514MB in 17m51s (480kB/s) xD
[06:57] <Jack_Sparrow> bernouli: someone may be able to help you change that without reinstalling..  glad it helped but I am not the wifi guy
[06:57] <BrokenPipe> Warbo: Thanks
[06:57] <Subhuman> BrokenPipe, "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[06:57] <ProN00b> MarcN, i think i am using ext2
[06:57] <Warbo> MarcN: So "sync" does nothing with ext3?
[06:58] <bernouli> i cant remember what i have done, but maybe after i disable the wifi with hardware, since then it wont work anymore
[06:58] <MarcN> Warbo: no it will sync, but ext3 journals so on reboot/mount it will play back the log and no need to fsck
[06:58] <BrokenPipe> I suppose I should ask, is there a deb for the 2.0 beta of Gaim?
[06:58] <kitsuneofdoom> Jack_Sparrow: You realize if I reinstall the entire OS, and it's NOT that, that I'm going to be pretty much homicidal?
[06:58] <Jack_Sparrow> bernouli: http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/09/how-to-change-mac-address-of-your.html
[06:59] <ProN00b> MarcN, i got ext2
[06:59] <Warbo> MarcN: I think he means that data doesn't have a chance to move from the buffer to the disk when his power dies. I can only suggest a very quick CRON task (yes, I am n00bish sometimes)
[06:59] <jrib> !gaim2
[06:59] <ubotu> Packages for Gaim 2 beta 3 can be found via https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2006-April/072721.html
[06:59] <MarcN> ProN00b: you can convert it to ext3 using tune2fs.  Read up on it
[06:59] <bernouli> Jack_Sparrow, i think i dont want to "change" my mac, i just want to have my real mac there
[06:59] <Jack_Sparrow> kitsuneofdoom: feel free to ask for more opinions..
[07:00] <BrokenPipe> wow, ubotu is so helpful
[07:00] <ProN00b> MarcN, can i clear those ext3 logs ? (i don't want old data to remain on my sys)
[07:00] <kitsuneofdoom> Jack_Sparrow: can you tell me what version your gcc is at?
[07:00] <franky123> does anyone know how to use dmsetup? i've created a table file and tried "dmsetup create frankdmraid0 dmraid0.tab" and it spits out "device-mapper: reload ioctl failed: Invalid argument". help?
[07:01] <byen> I just cant seem to get the terminal to revert to the default state
[07:01] <MarcN> ProN00b: not sure what you mean. The logs aren't in any really hidden place.  still in the same partition
[07:02] <azureal> hi, in xterm or aterm, how do i make color-coded words (like directories) merely change color, and not become wide and bold
[07:02] <Spec> How do I get information on a .gpg file?
[07:02] <Thuryn`> investigating
[07:02] <azureal> wideBoldFont doesnt seem to work//
[07:03] <MarcN> Spec: use gpg to decrypt it
[07:03] <Spec> how can I use gpg to see who the file is encrypted to?
[07:03] <Spec> i encrypted the file ... i just wanna make sure it's encrypted to the right key
[07:03] <MarcN> Spec: read up on gpg -- lots of things you can do with it.
[07:04] <jcn_> fsck question: How much hell am I going to be in for if I run fsck -y on a partition that has problems? "Will it destroy my stuff" is my biggest question
[07:04] <azureal> is my problem bash-related?
[07:04] <kitsuneofdoom> Jack_Sparrow: Actually, some searching on the forums told me it's a known issue...the package is broken
[07:04] <longwave> if you encrypted it with a public key you will need the private key to decrypt it again, no way around that
[07:04] <kitsuneofdoom> Jack_Sparrow: Just for 64-bit peoples
[07:04] <Spec> longwave: right, but can you tell whose private key you need?
[07:05] <acojlo> is here some S3 resume expert? :)
[07:05] <MarcN> Spec: don't think so.  Wouldn't be a good idea from a security point of view.
[07:05] <jcn_> fsck question: How much hell am I going to be in for if I run fsck -y on a partition that has problems? "Will it destroy my stuff" is my biggest question
[07:05] <nu> hey guys. where do i choose which modules to start at startup?
[07:05] <azureal> !repeat
[07:05] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:05] <ucordes> hey there. when i select fglrx in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and restart x, the driver won't load. fglrxinfo shows "mesa.."
[07:06] <MarcN> jcn_: could be.  Usually not though.  You may lose some files.  Check in /lost+found
[07:06] <franky123> dmsetup question: how do  you create a raid0 using dmsetup create?
[07:06] <bernouli> does anyone have issue with FN+F4 in ibm?
[07:06] <ucordes> i have the latest binary fglrx from ati.com. what did i do wrong?
[07:07] <_bt> HELP: how can i make kernel upgrades keep my changes to the kernel arguments?
[07:07] <jcn_> MarcN, thanks!
[07:07] <Ackeubu_> hey i get an error when i try to run wine. it says it doesnt have permission to access user.reg and som other reg files. what can i do about it? i have set the permissions to 744
[07:07] <jharrisonwk> yo
[07:07] <jharrisonwk> amd64 ubuntu is good for emt64 yes?
[07:08] <jharrisonwk> what I mean is amd64 cd is used for installing on amd64 and emt64 archs?
[07:08] <sk> ucordes: read the top of menu.lst properly
[07:08] <tyeth> hi guys, who here has tried to use caudium on ubuntu?
[07:09] <dmitriy> Hi, I cannot get streaming tv from internet to work, if im using gstreamer i get "Cant open location, may not have permission to open the file" If using xine i get "No inpput plugin to handle the location of this movie" Could someone help me please?
[07:09] <tyeth> dmitriy: - have u tried VLC?
[07:10] <dmitriy> tyeth -- how do i make the link startup with VLC
[07:10] <andresmujica> ubuntu rocks!! just received my cd kit!!
[07:10] <bernouli> is there any "repair" or something like that instead of reinstalling from the scratch?
[07:10] <jcn_> Incidentally, sorry for repeating, folks - my bad, didn't know.
[07:10] <azureal> andresmujica,  lol =P
[07:10] <tyeth> copy the link, load vlc, try opening URL with vlc
[07:10] <dmitriy> tyeth -- k h/o
[07:11] <tyeth> uhh, perhaps now i aught to mention im a newbie :D
[07:11] <azureal> ought* =P
[07:11] <tyeth> hehe
[07:11] <jharrisonwk> newbie sewbie
[07:11] <tyeth> a poor spelling n00b
[07:11] <jharrisonwk> no one knows about amd64/emt64?
[07:11] <azureal> newbie DNE in my dictionary =)
[07:12] <player2> Hi all, I would like to apply this patch (http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0603.0/0359.html) to my kernel for the extra buttons on my MS Natural Keyboard
[07:12] <jharrisonwk> !emt64
[07:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about emt64 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:12] <jharrisonwk> !amd64
[07:12] <tyeth> !caudium
[07:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about caudium - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:12] <jharrisonwk> not even the bot knows
[07:12] <azureal> i'd say i'm halfway knowledgeable at best
[07:12] <azureal> i still have so much to explore...
[07:12] <ucordes> sk: where can i find menu.lst?
[07:13] <player2> but I don't know how to recompile the Ubuntu kernel
[07:13] <jcn_> fsck is seeing "Buffer I/O errors" on several series of contiguous logical blocks (e.g., blocks ending in 120, 121, 122, 123, etc.) followd by occasionally an error on a block resulting in a "short read while doing inode scan" -- how bad off am I here, can anyone give me an idea?
[07:14] <shawnr_> is there a way to force a program to open minimized?
[07:14] <ucordes> hey there. when i select fglrx in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and restart x, the driver won't load. fglrxinfo shows "mesa.."
[07:14] <azureal> ucordes: are you looking for grub's menu?   then /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:14] <ucordes> no i'm not. somebody told me to check for it on my fglrx issue
[07:14] <dmitriy> tyeth -- nope doesnt work eather, can you try "mms://stream2.worldstreamtv.com/wstv?3f7c016b-676d-4297-b3f7-4d8384df0abc"
[07:14] <player2> menu.lst == grub boot menu
[07:15] <azureal> player2: there are more than just that =)
[07:15] <azureal> player2: look at "find / | grep menu.lst"
[07:15] <player2> i'm actually doing that right now :)
[07:15] <shawnr_> is there a way to force a program to open minimized?
[07:15] <wonis> Are you guys planning on doing a security update for the Rails vulnerability? I installed it on my 6.06 LTS server through the repositories.
[07:16] <byen> can anyone tell me how i can start terminal in my home rather than "/"
[07:16] <tyeth> sorry dmitriy, got distracted, tryin now
[07:16] <dmitriy> tyeth -- its ok
[07:16] <frying_fish> wonis: more than likely, since its a security issue
[07:16] <frying_fish> and security issues will be patched
[07:16] <dmitriy> tyeth -- i dont know if its going to work though, im paying for this but it works in windows
[07:17] <dmitriy> tyeth -- the link changes everytime
[07:17] <cvramankishore> hello can any body help me
[07:17] <tyeth> o ok
[07:17] <cvramankishore> i m new to linux
[07:17] <cvramankishore> i hav a problem
[07:17] <player2> the only two menu.lst files i found were /usr/share/doc/grub/examples/menu.lst and /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:17] <dmitriy> ??
[07:17] <dmitriy> cvramankishore -- wut is it?
[07:18] <azureal> !anybody > cvramankishore
[07:18] <wonis> frying_fish - Thanks
[07:18] <DamianFino1> Hi guys, I'm using the stock kernel, but I Have to enable SMP without recompiling. Any ideas?
[07:18] <player2> Damian: install linux-686-smp
[07:18] <naa> !anybody
[07:18] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:18] <frying_fish> player2: linux-686 and linux-686-smp are the same thing
[07:18] <frying_fish> so you don't need to specify smp
[07:18] <azureal> naa: too slow =P
[07:19] <player2> shawnr_: I'm not seeing it
[07:19] <frying_fish> DamianFino1: if your chip actually supports it then it will automatically do it.
[07:19] <cvramankishore> hello dmitriy
[07:19] <frying_fish> if you are running the 686 not 386
[07:19] <player2> you can specify a geometry, but it's not gonna allow you to specify minimized
[07:19] <DamianFino1> player2:  I did, but, that stock kernel doesn't work with my wifi
[07:19] <dmitriy> cvramankishore -- hi, whats the problem?
[07:19] <tyeth> no success dmitriy, is the service tied to your IP address?
[07:19] <frying_fish> DamianFino1: install linux-686 and that will be what you need
[07:19] <DamianFino1> frying_fish: It's not working, I installed the linux-686 and it shows the 2 processors, but wifi is down
[07:19] <frying_fish> and the difference between 686 and 386 won't affect drivers.
[07:20] <cvramankishore> i hav installed ubuntu 6.06 version on my amd 64 bit pc
[07:20] <dmitriy> tyeth -- no but i have to login with my username/pass
[07:20] <player2> shawnr_: iconification is the responsibility of the window manager
[07:20] <DamianFino1> If I use stock, then no SMP but wifi
[07:20] <cvramankishore> every thing is working intact5 except
[07:20] <cvramankishore> sound
[07:20] <frying_fish> you say "stock" what do you actually mean, do you mean the 386 kernel?
[07:20] <cvramankishore> it initially worked later there is no sound
[07:20] <DamianFino1> as stock I mean the one that comes preinstalled with Dapper
[07:20] <frying_fish> you can also try a slightly older version of 686 since it will still be there.
[07:20] <frying_fish> cvramankishore: open up a terminal and type alsamixer
[07:20] <azureal> cvramankishore, are you logged in as yourself or root
[07:20] <frying_fish> DamianFino1: so you mean the 386 kernel right.
[07:21] <cvramankishore> i m logged in root only i think
[07:21] <tyeth> can u get a fresh url for me? log out, then back in, then copy link but dont attempt to use it ,,,,
[07:21] <DamianFino1> Yes
[07:21] <player2> is there any way of running the .17 kernel on Dapper?  Cause I'd really like to be able to use the Favorites buttons on my keyb
[07:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Can I install 686 on existing 386 system and please be gentle...  Pentium 4 D 3ghz...
[07:21] <cvramankishore> bcoz i m the only user
[07:21] <jbroome> p4 is 686
[07:21] <frying_fish> Jack_Sparrow: yes, but it will need to reboot
[07:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Just the kernel not reinstalling everthing
[07:21] <DamianFino1> 2.6.15-26-386
[07:21] <frying_fish> player2: you can roll your own if you want
[07:21] <dmitriy> tyeth -- yes hold on
[07:22] <tyeth> cvramankishore: have you tried restarting?
[07:22] <frying_fish> Jack_Sparrow: yes.
[07:22] <DamianFino1> So I suppose, I can just activate the SMP module, and be done with it
[07:22] <Jack_Sparrow> frying_fish: got time to walk me through it
[07:22] <player2> frying_fish: reading the wiki, it's apparently not easy < Edgy
[07:22] <frying_fish> DamianFino1: not quite sure.
[07:22] <cvramankishore> hello tyeth i hav tried it thrice
[07:22] <frying_fish> player2: making your own kernel is very simple
[07:22] <Necrosan_> Doing a net install
[07:22] <Jack_Sparrow> or just synaptic get 686
[07:22] <Necrosan_> us.archive.ubuntu.com is WAAAAY too slow
[07:22] <Necrosan_> the installer keeps locking up
[07:22] <Necrosan_> What's a faster server?
[07:22] <player2> Jack_Sparrow: Terminal > sudo apt-get install linux-686 && reboot
[07:22] <frying_fish> if you do the regular make modules modules_install method
[07:22] <Jack_Sparrow> cool thanks
[07:22] <tyeth> my sound stops but its fine after reboot..... Try upgrading sound driver?
[07:23] <frying_fish> player2: does the keyboard just not send a scancode?
[07:23] <frying_fish> or does xev just not produce a symbol for it
[07:23] <player2> frying_fish: no, the scancodes it sends are not recognized by the HID driver
[07:23] <player2> this patch (http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0603.0/0359.html) fixes that
[07:23] <Necrosan_> Anyone?
[07:24] <frying_fish> player2: can't you just tell it to understand it, I thought you could if you had scancodes with creating them into keycodes and then interpretting them with an xmodmap
[07:24] <player2> Necrosan_: read the topic
[07:24] <frying_fish> although my xmodmap is no longer working.
[07:24] <cvramankishore> hello tyeth i m new to linux can u sasy how to upgrade sound driver
[07:24] <azureal> player2 is on top of it =
[07:24] <ucordes> why does my kernel-image download with 12k ?
[07:24] <player2> no, they never even get through the hid
[07:24] <frying_fish> cvramankishore: did you do what I told you?
[07:24] <Necrosan_> player2: I did read the topic.
[07:24] <Necrosan_> What qualifies as a mirror?
[07:24] <frying_fish> and cvramankishore the driver is part of the kernel, so leave it with that.
[07:24] <player2> anything listed as a mirror on the ubuntu.com download page
[07:24] <Pitel> is shipit allready sending 6.06.1?
[07:24] <Necrosan_> http://ubuntu.cs.utah.edu/
[07:25] <Necrosan_> Is that a mirror, player2?
[07:25] <frying_fish> 6.06.1??
[07:25] <nu> hey guys. where do i choose which modules to start at startup?
[07:25] <Necrosan_> I can put ubuntu.cs.utah.edu in the "archive" box
[07:25] <frying_fish> why the .1 ?
[07:25] <ucordes> is there any other source to get kernel-image from?
[07:25] <Necrosan_> And it should work?
[07:25] <cvramankishore> hello flying fish sorry i hadnt seen u r instruction
[07:25] <gnomefreak> frying_fish: its  apoint release
[07:25] <player2> there's no guarantee that it has the absolute latest packages, or even all of them
[07:25] <player2> but probably, yea
[07:25] <Trenty> How do I install an Ubuntu virus?
[07:25] <manmadha> how to install gmail drive in linux.....?can any one give the link to download it..................?
[07:25] <frying_fish> cvramankishore: open a terminal and type alsamixer.
[07:25] <frying_fish> manmadha: use google to search.
[07:25] <gnomefreak> frying_fish: since the support is so long on dapper they will be releasing point releases
[07:25] <cvramankishore> ok i ll try
[07:25] <frying_fish> gnomefreak: ahh right
[07:25] <visik7> is there a gnome tool like filelight ?
[07:26] <Pitel> frying_fish: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.announce/87
[07:26] <cvramankishore> hello flyng fish can u wait for a while
[07:26] <manmadha> frying_fish, ya ,i did but i dont know which package to install(gmail php or ??)
[07:26] <frying_fish> cvramankishore: its frying, not flying
[07:26] <frying_fish> and just type fry then hit tab, will probably fill it
[07:26] <frying_fish> manmadha: then read carefully.....
[07:26] <player2> frying_fish: there are a few keys with non-standard scancodes, which change when the usage struct changes
[07:27] <dmitriy> tyeth -- mms://stream2.worldsteamtv.com/wstv?c67ad601-1bb01-464a-af17-6c08f1300967
[07:27] <abhinay> is it possible to burn DVD Videos with gnomebaker ?
[07:27] <Necrosan_> player2: Well what's a fast server with all the latest packages?
[07:27] <player2> so i can't use the Favorites 1-5 buttons or the parens above the keypad
[07:27] <manmadha> frying_fish, ok thank u
[07:27] <Gun_Smoke> Is there a way to manual mount a cd? before if I put a cd in the drive, it would normaly show its self on the desktop.. now nothing
[07:27] <frying_fish> dmitriy: seems to not find anything, says it can't open it
[07:27] <player2> Necrosan_: your best bet is to try it and if it doesn't have everything try a new mirror
[07:27] <frying_fish> Gun_Smoke: yup, sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom
[07:28] <frying_fish> oh and -o loop
[07:28] <tyeth> i dont have a suitable module to access it with :(
[07:28] <cvramankishore> thnks frying_fish
[07:28] <frying_fish> cvramankishore: did that let you fix your sound?
[07:28] <cvramankishore> i hav opened it frying_fish
[07:28] <Fracture> anyonw know when nvidia will release their new linux drivers ?
[07:28] <frying_fish> ok, now make sure the volumes are set to on
[07:28] <cvramankishore> i hav just opened it
[07:28] <dmitriy> tyeth -- great, what were you using? VLC?
[07:28] <frying_fish> and its saying your correct sound card.
[07:28] <bretzel> Hi there, trying to run "bashish" => doesn't work...anyone running it ?
[07:28] <tyeth> yeh, vlc
[07:29] <cvramankishore> wait frying_fish let me see it once again
[07:29] <tyeth> but it works fine in windows for u?>
[07:29] <ompaul> mako that mail is with you
[07:29] <dmitriy> tyeth -- yes
[07:29] <tyeth> media player 9? or can u use old media player?
[07:29] <cvramankishore> hello frying_fish it is via 8237
[07:29] <nu> !dual
[07:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about dual - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:29] <ucordes> is the packet linux-image-2.6.... the kernel update?
[07:29] <nu> anyone know how to set up dual monitors?
[07:29] <dmitriy> tyeth -- 10/11 works fine, didnt try on older ones
[07:29] <frying_fish> dmitriy: I was using vlc too
[07:30] <nu> i installed my nvidia driver, but the other monitor isnt working
[07:30] <frying_fish> cvramankishore: ok, are the volumes set...
[07:30] <frying_fish> and do you have your speakers hooked up to that one?
[07:30] <cvramankishore> yep they r set
[07:30] <frying_fish> or do you have more than one sound card and maybe have speakers connected to the other device...
[07:30] <frying_fish> i.e. if you have onboard sound and a sound card
[07:31] <player2> frying_fish: can i do what's on (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild?highlight=%28kernel%29) on Dapper?
[07:31] <dmitriy> frying_fish -- its weird
[07:31] <dmitriy> frying_fish -- works in windy
[07:31] <cvramankishore> yes frying_fish all the sounds r set to max
[07:31] <polpak> dmitriy: you mean breezy ?
[07:31] <frying_fish> player2: I would assume so.
[07:32] <azureal> cvramankishore, so you're logged in as a reg user, right
[07:32] <frying_fish> cvramankishore: do you have more than one sound device?
[07:32] <dmitriy> tyeth -- ill try with older players in windy or ill try pasting the url/ no clicking the link
[07:32] <Pelo> can anyone tell me how to uninstall something that was intalled from the source code ( ./configure , make , make install ) ?
[07:32] <frying_fish> Pelo: make uninstall
[07:32] <Pelo> thanks
[07:32] <dmitriy> polpak -- no i mean windows
[07:32] <cvramankishore> i hav speakers and headphones
[07:32] <polpak> dmitriy: oh
[07:32] <cvramankishore> i ll alternatively connect them frying_fish
[07:32] <frying_fish> cvramankishore: are they hooked to the same device, or different ones?
[07:33] <azureal> are you part of the 'audio' group?
[07:33] <Pelo> azureal  http://www.securenet.net/members/jeanpelo/linux_guide.html
[07:33] <azureal> ?
[07:33] <cvramankishore> hello frying_fish headfones to the front jack
[07:33] <Pelo> just spreading the word
[07:33] <cvramankishore> aqnd speakers to back
[07:33] <cvramankishore> frying_fish:
[07:34] <azureal> spread it somewhere else
[07:34] <Pelo> just being cute
[07:34] <cvramankishore> azureal: i m logged as registered user
[07:34] <gnomefreak> Pelo: its concidered spamming and please dont do it in here
[07:34] <player2> alright frying_fish, thanks
[07:34] <frying_fish> cvramankishore: ok maybe its not sending sound to the right ones.
[07:34] <azureal> Pelo: i'm just the kind of person who hates spamming, ads, banners, and SOLICITING
[07:35] <jcn_> mwe, marcN, trappist, Warbo - thanks - I have my disk back; not sure how much data is lost yet. There is nothing *in* the lost+found directory. fsck said it was doing many interesting things, which went by way too fast to see ... where should I look for things it fixed?
[07:35] <cvramankishore> frying_fish:  i hav tried with one only
[07:35] <cvramankishore> frying_fish:  though its not working
[07:35] <azureal> cvramankishore, what's a 'registered user' ?
[07:35] <Pelo> I won't make a big case of it,  i would probably kick ppl out of the utorrent channel for doing the same ,  the azureal  just ... you know
[07:35] <cvramankishore> frying_fish: both r working in windows
[07:35] <cvramankishore> hello azureal
[07:35] <azureal> Pelo: haha, but you specifically singled me out to spam me =P
[07:36] <frying_fish> cvramankishore: that makes no odds
[07:36] <frying_fish> it works differenlty in linux
[07:36] <Pelo> azureal  that was the point,  geting someone to switch from az to Torrent
[07:36] <frying_fish> and setting it up to use both outputs may be a bit more complex, hence I asked whats set up
[07:36] <azureal> Pelo: oh, you think i use azureus by looking at my name?
[07:36] <cvramankishore> frying_fish: u may b right
[07:36] <gnomefreak> Pelo and azureal can you please move this conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic now
[07:36] <frying_fish> cvramankishore: I am right.
[07:37] <Pelo> ok, we'll stop
[07:37] <cvramankishore> frying_fish:  how to check which is set up
[07:37] <edmont> hi
[07:37] <edmont> !w32codecs
[07:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:37] <frying_fish> well if alsamixer is saying its got the volumes set up to max, play some audio, turn both the speakers and the heaphones on, work out which the sound is coming from
[07:38] <cvramankishore> no i hav tried sound is not comming frm any one
[07:38] <Linuturk> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=231857 << help?
[07:38] <frying_fish> cvramankishore: make sure whatever program is sending the audio is sending it via alsa
[07:38] <cvramankishore> frying_fish: some flickering sound can b heard in headfones
[07:39] <frying_fish> ok, then its kind of working and you need to some how sort that out, maybe its an alsa issue, I don't know, I'm not a sound-dev
[07:39] <paww> I'm pondering whether to install 32 or 64 bit Ubuntu. What do I need to do to get and run a firefox with flash?
[07:39] <cvramankishore> frying_fish: let me xplain again to u
[07:40] <paww> On 64 bit system.
[07:40] <cvramankishore> it is working some times n not weorking some times
[07:40] <cvramankishore> its like tht
[07:40] <frying_fish> you never mentioned that previously.
[07:40] <cvramankishore> frying_fish:
[07:40] <Linuturk> paww, the safest bet is to go 32 bit right now. Search the wiki and forums and see if anyone has been sucessful with 64-bit FF/Flash
[07:40] <frying_fish> paww: you would need a chroot and run firefox as 32bit from inside that.
[07:40] <azureal> cvramankishore, what does it say when you type "groups"
[07:40] <paww> Alright. 32 bits it is then.
[07:41] <Gun_Smoke> Now my computer won't read CDs at all.. ? I can't manual mount, nothing.
[07:41] <frying_fish> also, extensions don't work in 64bit ff yet, so 32 bit firefox is needed
[07:41] <azureal> cvramankishore, is "audio" one of them?
[07:41] <frying_fish> but you can just do that inside a chroot anyway
[07:41] <Gun_Smoke> What can I do?
[07:41] <cvramankishore> azureal: let me try tht
[07:41] <frying_fish> Gun_Smoke: throw it out of the window
[07:41] <dmitriy> cvramankishore, try http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_configure_sound_to_work_properly_in_GNOME
[07:41] <cvramankishore> azureal:  wher to type groups????????
[07:41] <azureal> cvramankishore, in any terminal
[07:42] <Gun_Smoke> frying_fish:  Right.. I've tried 2 different CD's now.. Still nothing.
[07:42] <cvramankishore> ok let me try
[07:42] <Linuturk> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=231882 | http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=231857  << my two problems
[07:42] <frying_fish> Gun_Smoke: what device is the cdrom?
[07:42] <frying_fish> as in its dev device
[07:42] <dmitriy> cvramankishore -- ur using dapper gnome right?
[07:42] <cvramankishore> azureal: yes audio is one among them
[07:43] <frying_fish> and then do this: sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop /dev/CDDEVICE /path/to/mount/point
[07:43] <cvramankishore> dmitriy: how can i know tht
[07:43] <Gun_Smoke> frying_fish:   I have no idea..
[07:43] <dmitriy> cvramankishore -- how did u install ubuntu?
[07:43] <frying_fish> Gun_Smoke: well find out, its most likely /dev/hdb or something like that
[07:44] <cvramankishore> dmitriy: it is a live cd cum install cd
[07:44] <cvramankishore> 6.06 version
[07:44] <frying_fish> Gun_Smoke: one way to check, go to system->administration-> discs  then open that and it lists all the physical devices including cdrom drives
[07:45] <Gun_Smoke> 252825
[07:45] <frying_fish> ?
[07:45] <Gun_Smoke> wrong paste
[07:45] <dmitriy> cvramankishore -- wait your using live cd? you didnt install it
[07:45] <Jack_Sparrow> frying_fish: thanks.. 686 installed fine
[07:45] <cvramankishore> dmitriy:
[07:45] <tyeth> dmitriy: i think the only way is to use the windows software with emulation in linux
[07:46] <cvramankishore> dmitriy: no i hav installed it
[07:46] <cvramankishore> i m not using live cd now
[07:46] <beerockxs> How can I reset the font settings to the defaults?
[07:46] <tyeth> ive read about Crossover Office being used for such purposes
[07:46] <dmitriy> tyeth -- il install media player then using wine
[07:46] <byen> does anyone here know how to fix the terminal where it starts inthe /hom/user dir and not /
[07:46] <Linuturk> tyeth, wine is the best place to start for windows programs in linux
[07:46] <tyeth> okay, im downloading crossover now, ill say when it arrives
[07:46] <Raskall> is there some kind of random thingie on boot regarding character set? Every other time I boot slrn/rtin stops displaying my characters correctly.
[07:46] <tibbe> how come the dget script isn't available on Ubuntu but on Debian?
[07:46] <Raskall> luckily one of them always works.
[07:46] <trappist> byen: check your entry in /etc/passwd and make sure your home dir is right
[07:47] <dmitriy> cvramankishore -- so your saying u get flickered sound? what files are you trying to play?
[07:47] <Raskall> (I was ironic about that random thing, btw)
[07:47] <root__> IS there a way, in ubuntu breezy badger, to reset ALL screensavers to default?
[07:47] <Gun_Smoke> frying_fish:  it's still trying to read them.. This can't be right
[07:47] <cvramankishore> dmitriy: hello plz see this link is tht wht i hav to do
[07:47] <cvramankishore> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_configure_sound_to_work_properly_in_GNOME
[07:47] <frying_fish> Gun_Smoke: maybe something is wrong.
[07:47] <Gun_Smoke> man that wheel's a spinning.. lol.
[07:48] <cvramankishore> dmitriy: hello i hav tried mp3
[07:48] <dmitriy> cvramankishore -- dont do it yet, explain the problem more
[07:48] <Gun_Smoke> What could it be, not even an hour ago it was working fine.
[07:48] <Gun_Smoke> I haven't done anything
[07:48] <cvramankishore> 9i hav installed xmms player
[07:48] <dmitriy> cvramankishore -- and you cant hear sound?
[07:48] <byen> trappist, can i paste-nl it and would you please look into it for me?
[07:48] <cvramankishore> dmitriy: noi at present i cant hear any sound
[07:48] <root__> IS THERE A WAY TO RESET ALL SCREENSAVERS OPTIONS TO DEFAULT MODE IN UBUNTU BREEZY BADGER?!? it is making my computer crash when i go in options of screensaver or when it start!
[07:48] <trappist> byen: ok
[07:49] <dmitriy> cvramankishore -- you heard something though?
[07:49] <dra> Blender's default behaviour is to start up in fullscreen mode. But when I'm starting it up (NOT using -w), the panels are on top of Blender. Is there a way to fix that?
[07:49] <root__> IS THERE A WAY TO RESET ALL SCREENSAVERS OPTIONS TO DEFAULT MODE IN UBUNTU BREEZY BADGER?!? it is making my computer crash when i go in options of screensaver or when it start!
[07:49] <cvramankishore> dmitriy: wht does tough means??????
[07:50] <cvramankishore> dmitriy:  i m able to hear only flickering
[07:50] <root__> IS THERE A WAY TO RESET ALL SCREENSAVERS OPTIONS TO DEFAULT MODE IN UBUNTU BREEZY BADGER?!? it is making my computer crash when i go in options of screensaver or when it start!
[07:50] <mopflite> root__: why not turn the screensaver off altogether, or alternatively set it to simply blank the screen?
[07:50] <dra> root__: rm -fr ~/.xscreensaver
[07:50] <dmitriy> cvramankishore -- is it a fresh dapper install?
[07:51] <bjornstrom> I cant find my harddrives, becuse they are ntfs or some shit.. How can i format them in ubuntu so i can use them ?, sorry for my bad english
[07:51] <trappist> root__: we heard you the third time.  stop shouting, and stop repeating yourself every few seconds.
[07:51] <cvramankishore> yep it is
[07:51] <root__> ok
[07:51] <root__> sorry
[07:51] <beerockxs> How can I reset the font settings to the defaults?
[07:51] <beerockxs> er, Gnome font settings
[07:51] <dmitriy> cvramankishore -- what sound card do you have?
[07:51] <root__> i want screensavers
[07:51] <root__> just
[07:51] <byen> trappist, http://pastebin.ca/125467
[07:51] <cvramankishore> dmitriy: i hav just installed it yesterday
[07:51] <root__> i putted an image in one of a setting
[07:51] <root__> and it bust, anytime i open the preference
[07:52] <alienseer23> can anyone help me get azureus loaded properly?
[07:52] <dmitriy> alienseer23 -- k
[07:52] <trappist> byen: looks fine.  does /home/byen exist?
[07:52] <fuzzybunny> can someone help me open .xls and .doc files on Windows machines?
[07:52] <byen> trappist, it does
[07:52] <cvramankishore> dmitriy: it is via 8237
[07:52] <alienseer23> what is --k?
[07:52] <trappist> byen: also, do ls ~.bashrc ~.bash_profile  <-- do they exist?
[07:52] <beerockxs> fuzzybunny: install openoffice?
[07:52] <root__> thanks verry much!!!
[07:52] <dmitriy> alienseer23 -- as in ok, whats the problem
[07:52] <ardchoille> fuzzybunny: No, that should be asked in #windows
[07:52] <alienseer23> heheh, ok
[07:53] <root__> dra: thanks verry much! :) it worked :)
[07:53] <fuzzybunny> beerockxs, its installed and I can open them on a local copy, but not on a remote copy
[07:53] <alienseer23> it just doesn't load the main screen...at all
[07:53] <beerockxs> How can I reset the gnome font settings to the defaults?
[07:53] <peter84> Anyone who knows if it is possible, to send mail from a palm Vx, in evolution.
[07:53] <peter84> ?
[07:53] <Gun_Smoke> frying_fish:  I re-booted and everything seems to be fine now... And it rec. my CDs now.
[07:53] <dmitriy> cvramankishore -- run alsamixer what does it say under card, chip, view, item
[07:53] <fuzzybunny> ardchoille, they open on windows machines over a network share, so yes it belongs here
[07:53] <fuzzybunny> since I'm running ubuntu
[07:53] <Jack_Sparrow> fuzzybunny: is that drive ntfs with the xls files
[07:53] <cvramankishore> dmitriy: it is via8237
[07:54] <peter84> It syncs fine but i cant figure out how to send and recieve mails
[07:54] <fuzzybunny> Jack_Sparrow, yes its a NTFS volume
[07:54] <alienseer23> i thihk I have the wrong java loaded or somehting?
[07:54] <Jack_Sparrow> fuzzybunny: they are not in your box but another?
[07:54] <cvramankishore> dmitriy: wait ill type the entire list
[07:55] <alienseer23> !java
[07:55] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[07:55] <fuzzybunny> Jack_Sparrow, yes they're on our Windows File Server, but fail to open over the share...once their copied to the local ubuntu machine they open w/o a problem
[07:55] <dmitriy> alienseer23 -- get automatix and then install azureus from there
[07:55] <fuzzybunny> Jack_Sparrow, is there any way I'll be able to open them over the network share?
[07:55] <peter84> None who owns a palm?
[07:55] <dmitriy> cvramankishore -- are you dual booting?
[07:56] <render> I'm having a problem with ubuntu and locales (I think) and now every error message from compilers looks like "part.cpp:23: error: no matching function for call to "
[07:56] <Jack_Sparrow> fuzzybunny: I would think the cause is the copy ntfs makes when you open a file but I am probably wrong on that
[07:56] <elyxi> how do i format a nts drive to ext3 and when add it in ubuntu?
[07:56] <alienseer23> so I have to uninstall java and azureus first??
[07:56] <cvramankishore> dmitriy:  card : via 8237, chip via tech via1617a, view [playback]  capture all
[07:56] <render> every error string from the compilers contains "a" instead of the symbols (functions/variables)
[07:56] <dmitriy> alienseer23 -- no its fine it will install over that
[07:56] <cvramankishore> is tht inf enough dmitriy
[07:57] <cvramankishore> dual booting???????????????
[07:57] <cvramankishore> dmitriy: whts dual booting
[07:57] <dmitriy> cvramankishore -- Like do you have only dapper installed? Do u have windows so you can check if sound works there
[07:57] <ardchoille> !dualboot
[07:57] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[07:57] <render> (in this way compiler messages are impossible to understand :)
[07:57] <chinoke> hello all
[07:57] <cvramankishore> dmitriy: i hav windows installed
[07:57] <chinoke> i want an App to restore lost Data from ext3
[07:58] <cvramankishore> dmitriy: and sound is working ther
[07:58] <dmitriy> cvramankishore -- check if sound works there?
[07:58] <dmitriy> cvramankishore -- oh k
[07:58] <cvramankishore> dmitriy: it is working ther
[07:58] <ych> is there some key combination i can use that is similar to alt-tab on windows that will minimize a running fullscreen game?
[07:58] <dmitriy> cvramankishore -- in alsamixer are all of the bars all the way up?
[07:58] <byen> trappist, thanks man.. i have spent a lot of time onthis.. i give up for now.. thanks mate
[07:59] <SurfnKid> whats that common dvd burner app
[07:59] <SurfnKid> k3b?
[07:59] <chinoke> can some body help me plz :S ,i want an App to restore lost Data from ext3
[07:59] <nysosym> hi all
[07:59] <SurfnKid> chinoke, i dont think you can
[07:59] <nysosym> anybody have a banshee *.deb package?
[07:59] <cvramankishore> yep master, mono, headfones.....
[07:59] <chinoke> Subhuman, :S
[07:59] <cvramankishore> dmitriy: all are on
[08:00] <cvramankishore> dmitriy: except 3d all r on
[08:00] <ardchoille> lol, this channel has more than twice the number of nicks as ##linux does :)
[08:00] <dmitriy> cvramankishore -- hmm i have no clue then
[08:01] <ych> anyone know how to alt-tab out of a program on ubuntu?
[08:01] <cvramankishore> dmitriy: so shall i try tht procedure in the link
[08:01] <Kittiah> Hmmmm
[08:01] <Kittiah> Sounds like a bit of a frivolous question, but has anyone actually gotten Scorched3D to work under Ubuntu?
[08:01] <luxc> I try to change the permission of this sources.list
[08:01] <ardchoille> ych: alt-tab should swith between apps if you have more than one open
[08:01] <dmitriy> cvramankishore -- sec
[08:01] <ych> ok, but it wont work in full screen
[08:01] <gean> hi all !
[08:01] <ych> like when im playing q3 and want to switch to irc
[08:02] <cvramankishore> dmitriy:  ok i ll wait
[08:02] <Riggzy> Hey - just going through the installer, partitioning my harddrive - after they're made and I go nacl. they're listed as "unknown"
[08:02] <Riggzy> nacl. = back,
[08:02] <SurfnKid> Kittiah, whats Scorched3D a game
[08:02] <Riggzy> and thus I can't choose them for mount points
[08:02] <dmitriy> cvramankishore -- check if you have it on mute?
[08:03] <dmitriy> there is a sound thing in the top right corner
[08:03] <Tenkawa> is there a good usb installable ubuntu image for 512 meg sticks?
[08:03] <luxc> is it possible to change the permission of this etc/apt/sources.list
[08:03] <gean> got my brand new first printer of my life ! how can i explain it to Ubuntu ?! (The System -> Admin -> Printing dialog ends after Add new printer at step 2 in a list without any manufacturers...)
[08:03] <cvramankishore> dmitriy:  wher to check in alsa mixer?????
[08:03] <ych> so no idea?
[08:04] <ardchoille> luxc: Probably not a good idea unless it's messed up. Why would you want to change perms on it?
[08:04] <dmitriy> dmitriy -- top right corner right click on the sound icon and go to open volume control
[08:04] <luxc> add a command line
[08:04] <dmitriy> dmitriy -- nvm it shouldnt be
[08:05] <ardchoille> luxc: You can open the list for editing with:  gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:05] <cvramankishore> dmitriy:  no every thing is full and not muted
[08:06] <dmitriy> cvramankishore -- nah it shouldnt be that, go to sound preferences and check if you can change Default SOund card, you might have 2
[08:07] <luxc> thank
[08:07] <dmitriy> cvramankishore -- System > Pref > Sound
[08:07] <npster> how do I make Macedonian letters to appear ?
[08:07] <niall> hey guys looking to install kde on mymates comp running ubuntu dapper 6.06, what is the best way to do this
[08:07] <cvramankishore> no it is set to via 8237
[08:08] <cvramankishore> dmitriy: it is set to via 8237 only
[08:08] <ardchoille> niall: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:08] <Jack_Sparrow> cvramankishore: were you in here earlier with a different nick?
[08:08] <jc595> First time on #ubuntu just testin..
[08:08] <cvramankishore> Jack_Sparrow: no i m new to this one
[08:08] <npster> I installed console-cyrillic but it doesn't want to switch the keyboard layout, HELP NOW !? :-)
[08:09] <ardchoille> jc595: Welcome :)
[08:09] <dmitriy> cvramankishore -- http://linux.iuplog.com/default.asp?item=94639
[08:09] <Jack_Sparrow> cvramankishore: Sorry, smae chipset in onboard sound
[08:09] <iratik> How does outlook check mail? (i've setup a postfix/courier/imap tls confirutation) I'm wondering how to test if outlook will work from telnet
[08:09] <dmitriy> cvramankishore -- read there and see if helps
[08:09] <iratik> like telnet localhost 25  ;   ehlo;  check mail? some kinda protocol like that?
[08:09] <fuzzybunny> Jack_Sparrow, thx for the help I'm going to #samba
[08:09] <Jack_Sparrow> cvramankishore: google alsa and that chipset and you should find the answer that worked..
[08:10] <tuku> Any ideas what might be wrong at my system. If I don't use my asdl connection about  hour, it stops working. Usualy I have to reboot to get it up again
[08:10] <fuzzybunny> since it seems to be more samba related :(
[08:10] <cvramankishore> Jack_Sparrow: wht come again
[08:10] <npster> Help me with the Keyboard Layout ?
[08:10] <npster> !keyboard
[08:10] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[08:10] <dmitriy> cvramankishore -- run "sudo totem" and try playing music like that
[08:10] <npster> !fonts
[08:10] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[08:10] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[08:10] <Jack_Sparrow> cvramankishore: If you do a search on goolge for alsa and your chipset you should find a page of info to help you get that working
[08:11] <npster> !cyrillic
[08:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about cyrillic - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:11] <npster> !console-cyrillyc
[08:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about console-cyrillyc - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:11] <jatt> tuku: the ppp logs should tell you why it "stops working"
[08:11] <sa0> hi all
[08:11] <sa0> wanted to know if someone uses initng (with dapper) ?
[08:11] <tuku> jatt: where are they located?
[08:11] <El_Enviado> disconnect
[08:12] <npster> !layout
[08:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about layout - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:12] <npster> !macedonian
[08:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about macedonian - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:12] <npster> !language
[08:12] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !fishing > npster
[08:12] <npster> oooopsss...
[08:13] <iratik> !courier
[08:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about courier - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:13] <iratik> grr
[08:13] <npster> I am not abusing it I am researching something cause no one helps me
[08:13] <dmitriy> !fishing > dmitriy
[08:13] <cvramankishore> dmitriy: it is asking password
[08:13] <ardchoille> npster: do /query ubotu and do your searches there :)
[08:13] <cvramankishore> it is not working if i try my password
[08:13] <iratik> I am so so so lost - I am trying to setup a mailserver so that we can have email addresses on our domain -  But nothing is working
[08:13] <dmitriy> cvramankishore -- it should
[08:14] <npster> Can someone help me?
[08:14] <dmitriy> cvramankishore -- the password you use to login
[08:14] <iratik> I can send out just fine - using telnet localhost 25, ehlo, rcpt to process
[08:14] <iratik> But 1. How do I get outlook to work with it
[08:14] <npster> Outlook in WINDows !
[08:14] <cvramankishore> when i m trying to type nothing is printing ther
[08:14] <hangfire> with what npstr
[08:14] <GnarusLeo> wich is the best client replacement for MSN messenger?
[08:14] <cvramankishore> only for this ofcourse
[08:15] <dmitriy> cvramankishore -- just type it
[08:15] <iratik> Yeh I hate outlook- but thats what our clients will be using
[08:15] <frying_fish> GnarusLeo: amsn
[08:15] <npster> hangfire: With the Keyboard Layout
[08:15] <dmitriy> cvramankishore -- it doesnt show, type your pass and click enter
[08:15] <hangfire> aMSN is good
[08:15] <hangfire> ok....what?
[08:15] <GnarusLeo> frying_fish, does that support away message, picture and so on?
[08:15] <Gun_Smoke> Back!  I finally got my NetGear WG111v2 to work.. Took a while.. But I got it..
[08:15] <frying_fish> GnarusLeo: yup
[08:15] <iratik> Is there a place to talk about mail server issues, a channel somewhere?
[08:15] <GnarusLeo> thanks
[08:15] <npster> !keyboard layout
[08:15] <ubotu> I know nothing about keyboard layout - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:15] <frying_fish> especially if you use the latest svn
[08:15] <iratik> its not #mail, not #smtp
[08:15] <cvramankishore> dmitriy: ok is it so so i hav to type my normal password
[08:15] <frying_fish> or just 0.96RC1
[08:16] <hangfire> npstr, whats the q?
[08:16] <frying_fish> not the one in the repositories, thats a bit old
[08:16] <dmitriy> cvramankishore -- yes
[08:16] <npster> hangfire: Can you come to Xubuntu it is less busy
[08:16] <hangfire> ok
[08:16] <nate> Is there a known problem with the CD-Image rsync right now? Are there available mirrors of it? I'm having problems connecting to it.
[08:16] <Gun_Smoke> Now I have no idea what this new(er) computer has in it.. It was just lying around not woring with windows install previously.  What can I do to tell what I have.. ie video cards and what not?
[08:16] <iratik> I'm honestly really lost on the whole mail setup - and I need some questions answered. Whats a good channel to go to?
[08:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Gun_Smoke: ultimate boot disk...
[08:17] <harisund> Anybody know of a quick onliner (sed/awk etc) that I could use to remove the '#' in the beginning of a few lines in a big file?
[08:17] <nate> iratik, depends what server you run. postfix, qmail, sendmail, etc
[08:17] <cvramankishore> dmitriy: it is not working
[08:17] <nate> you'll want to speak to the people involved with which ever mail server you use
[08:17] <Gun_Smoke> Jack_Sparrow:  I don't know what that is.
[08:17] <cvramankishore> i tried to login but login failed
[08:17] <dmitriy> cvramankishore -- it says what
[08:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Gun_Smoke: has some hardware detection
[08:17] <frying_fish> Gun_Smoke: lspci
[08:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Gun_Smoke: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[08:18] <frying_fish> Gun_Smoke: type lspci it will tell you what hardware you have (mostly)
[08:18] <Jack_Sparrow> lspci -v will tell even more
[08:18] <ardchoille> harisund: sed -i 's/# some text/some text/g' filename  ?
[08:18] <cvramankishore> dmitriy: it says login incorrect
[08:18] <digital__> Is printing in Ubuntu broken? I can't print anything
[08:18] <cvramankishore> dmitriy: after a while it displays login timed out
[08:18] <jbroome> digital__: WFM
[08:18] <cvramankishore> after 60 sec
[08:19] <dmitriy> just type sudo totem then it asks for password, type in your pass hit enter, its not that hard
[08:19] <Jack_Sparrow> digital__: works for most  what printer do you have.. usb something?
[08:19] <digital__> Jack_Sparrow: Apple LaserWriter Select
[08:19] <dmitriy> cvramankishore -- just type sudo totem then it asks for password, type in your pass hit enter, its not that hard
[08:19] <digital__> It was working
[08:20] <digital__> I think something went wrong after an update
[08:20] <cvramankishore> dmitriy: ok let me try it again
[08:20] <harisund> ardchoille: yeah that would work, but some text doesn't remain constant. I mean it could be anything. In this case, I have to enter the 'some text' for every line right?
[08:20] <Jack_Sparrow> digital__: what update, just the std repo update?
[08:20] <frying_fish> ooh, anyone able to recommend a program from which I can capture video from my webcam?
[08:20] <digital__> Jack_Sparrow: When Ubuntu tells me to update I update
[08:20] <ardchoille> harisund: Good point, that wouldn't work if you're trying to remove the "#" in commented out lines
[08:20] <Jack_Sparrow> digital__: HAve you manually adjusted sources?
[08:21] <xyr|x> hi..i'd like to know.. is there any feature which is something like redhat's "setup" command on ubuntu..
[08:21] <digital__> Jack_Sparrow: I've done something to the apt soruces
[08:21] <ardchoille> harisund: Maybe ask in #bash.. those folks are great with that studd.
[08:21] <harisund> ardchoille what I am trying is to use ^#
[08:21] <ardchoille> *stuff
[08:21] <Jack_Sparrow> xyr|x: what are you trying to setup or install
[08:21] <harisund> yeah .. thanks .. didn't realize that existed.. this is an Ubuntu channel after all :) will let you know if I figure out a way though ..
[08:21] <digital__> Jack_Sparrow: My printer doesn't show up when I try to add a new printer
[08:22] <Jack_Sparrow> did it before?
[08:22] <xyr|x> i'm trying to configure iptables and authentication method.. which is accessible using "setup" on redhat box
[08:22] <ardchoille> harisund: I wasn't meaning to say it was ot, just that #bash would give you a more precise answer.
[08:22] <cvramankishore> dmitriy: i hav tried enough its not working really
[08:22] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardware > jack_sparrow
[08:22] <harisund> ardchoille: yes I understand .. thanks for that tip .... will go over there..
[08:22] <dmitriy> cvramankishore -- type this in terminal sudo chmod 666 /dev/dsp
[08:23] <ardchoille> harisund: If you do find out how to do that, please pm me with the answer, I have been trying to learn more about bash recently
[08:23] <BlueEagle> dmitriy: Will that only play satanic music? o.O
[08:23] <Masticore> Im using gnome-bluetooth, I can recive files but I cant send. I dont have this option in rightclick: http://usefulinc.com/software/gnome-bluetooth/nautilus-send.png How do I fix this?
[08:23] <cvramankishore> ok ok ill
[08:23] <dmitriy> BlueEagle -- haha...
[08:23] <digital__> The printer tool is locking up on me
[08:23] <ardchoille> BlueEagle: hehe
[08:23] <cvramankishore> dmitriy: let me ask u one thing bfore
[08:23] <dmitriy> cvramankishore -- ?
[08:24] <shul> hello everybody
[08:24] <Jack_Sparrow> digital__: I dont see a single apple printer listed in the hardware section, is ther an emulation mode it can use like hp
[08:24] <cvramankishore> dmitriy: i m pressing ctrl + alt +f1 and typing all the stuff said by u ther
[08:24] <harisund> ardchoille: sed  's/^#\(.*http\)/\1/' file-name
[08:24] <gean> got my brand new first printer of my life ! how can i explain it to Ubuntu ?! (The System -> Admin -> Printing dialog ends after Add new printer at step 2 in a list without any manufacturers...) PLEASE HELP ME WITH A HINT !
[08:24] <shul> How can I install nvidia drivers on ubuntu edgy ?
[08:24] <cvramankishore> dmitriy: am i doing it right?????????
[08:24] <section31> how do i prevent any interactivity when I copy something from one place to another...i keep getting a prompt 'overwrite existing file'...i tried using cp -f but that didn't work
[08:24] <dmitriy> cvramankishore -- ahhh, lol nope
[08:24] <ardchoille> harisund: Thank you :)
[08:24] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell shul about nvidia
[08:24] <harisund> ardchoille: the ^# implies it starts with a '#'.. but i think you have figured it out already
[08:25] <cvramankishore> dmitriy: so wher to do it
[08:25] <cvramankishore> dmitriy: was tht root?????
[08:25] <dmitriy> cvramankishore -- Applications > Accessories > Terminal
[08:25] <ardchoille> harisund: Yeah
[08:25] <cvramankishore> dmitriy: sorry for my innocense but i cant help
[08:25] <gnomefreak> shul: nvidia doesnt work with edgy
[08:26] <dmitriy> cvramankishore -- its ok
[08:26] <cvramankishore> dmitriy: ok it opened
[08:26] <digital__> Jack_Sparrow: It's listed. You go and add a printer and there are hundreds of printers in the list. The problem I'm having is that it's not showing any printer being connected.
[08:26] <BlueEagle> ahh edgy. right
[08:26] <dmitriy> cvramankishore -- now type sudo chmod 666 /dev/dsp
[08:26] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell shul about edgy
[08:26] <xyr|x> i'm trying to configure iptables and authentication method.. which is accessible using "setup" on redhat box
[08:26] <SeanGen> Hey guys. Anyone here running ubuntu on a Presario V2000 Laptop?
[08:26] <digital__> I'm going to give the cups web interface a try
[08:26] <Jack_Sparrow> digital__: I was just looking on the !hardware page...
[08:26] <xyr|x> how to do the same thing in ubuntu?
[08:27] <digital__> Jack_Sparrow: What hardware page
[08:27] <Jack_Sparrow> digital__: If the printer setup is crashing then there is a different problem than just not finding your printer.
[08:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardware
[08:27] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[08:27] <keh7d> if there is a "space" in a dir name, is it entered with a space in terminal?
[08:27] <cvramankishore> smith:  it displayed following msgs
[08:28] <no0tic> I have an 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller Intel. In the mixer there are only to controls (master and pcm) and volumes are all at max but the output volume is very low...
[08:28] <cvramankishore> dmitriy: it displayed the following massages
[08:28] <BlueEagle> xyr|x: Well iptables is used for firewalling and/or routing. Common firewalls are shorewall and firestarter. As for access permissions are you thinking user-based or host-based access?
[08:28] <cvramankishore> (totem:7197): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib
[08:28] <cvramankishore> (totem:7197): Gdk-WARNING **: cannot set locale modifiers
[08:28] <cvramankishore> ** (totem:7197): WARNING **: Failed to connect to the session bus: No reply within specified time
[08:28] <gnomefreak> keh7d: replace the space with a _ or -
[08:28] <digital__> Jack_Sparrow: That page may not show the Apple printer. You need to check the CUPS website.
[08:28] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell cvramankishore about pastebin
[08:29] <ardchoille> keh7d: Yes, but you need to escape the spaces:  /path/to a new/directory here  needs to be /path/to\ a\ new/directory\ here
[08:29] <EnsignRedshirt> keh7d: 'escape' the space with a backslash, or put the whole thing in quotes.
[08:29] <Jack_Sparrow> digital__: Is your apple printer in the list of printers?
[08:29] <kim___> 'lo thar.
[08:29] <digital__> Jack_Sparrow: It is and it has been for years
[08:29] <xyr|x> blueeagle : auth using external LDAP server in ubuntu
[08:30] <no0tic> I have an 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller Intel. In the mixer there are only to controls (master and pcm) and volumes are all at max but the output volume is very low... what can I do?
[08:30] <kim___> Suppose I place an order with ShipIt now. Which CDs will be shipped to me; 6.06 or 6.06.1?
[08:30] <BlueEagle> xyr|x: I am sorry, but I'm not familiar with ldap at all.
[08:30] <gean> digital__, Jack_Sparrow, i also run into troubles by installing the printer, System -> Admin -> Printer and then Add new one, showed me first NO choice of a recognized printer, but after some 5 minutes it did: There is in the Menu now: (*) Use another printer by specifying a port, and he found the name of it: Canon iP5200 USB #1 ((Canon iP5200). Unfortunately there is no driver....
[08:30] <Jack_Sparrow> digital__: if it worked in Ubuntu and I am assuming you are using ubuntu and your printer setup is crashing your problem is not printer identification..
[08:30] <DanaG> Oh, I have an HD Audio chip also, but it's not too quiet for me.
[08:31] <xyr|x> blueeagle : thanx anyway :D
[08:31] <Jack_Sparrow> gean: many printers have a second emulation mode like HP or Epson in the old dot matrix days..
[08:31] <digital__> Jack_Sparrow: Correct! I think i'm having a device issue
[08:31] <DanaG> I did have to add "options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1" to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[08:32] <Jack_Sparrow> digital__: Hope you get it fixed..
[08:32] <cvramankishore> dmitriy: did u read tht warnings???????
[08:32] <digital__> Jack_Sparrow: It could be something with /dev/lp0
[08:32] <keh7d> thanks!
[08:32] <DanaG> In my case, it's a Sigmatel codec issue.
[08:32] <dmitriy> cvramankishore -- no sorry, i was rebooting
[08:32] <gean> digital__, Jack_Sparrow, also trying to install printer *now*, is there place to get the drivers ?!
[08:32] <cvramankishore> (totem:7413): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib
[08:32] <cvramankishore> (totem:7413): Gdk-WARNING **: cannot set locale modifiers
[08:33] <cvramankishore> dmitriy: these were the warnings
[08:33] <BlueEagle> xyr|x: perhaps the ldap-account-manager package can be of any help?
[08:33] <BlueEagle> !info ldap-account-manager
[08:33] <ubotu> ldap-account-manager: webfrontend for managing accounts in an LDAP directory. In repository universe, is extra. Version 0.5.1-1 (dapper), package size 1079 kB, installed size 4536 kB
[08:33] <viktor> does anyone know how to enable the S/PDIF on a Realtek ALC850 AC'97
[08:33] <DanaG> Is no0tic still around?
[08:33] <dmitriy> cvramankishore -- what player were u using to play music?
[08:33] <no0tic> DanaG, yes
[08:33] <digital__> gean: Your printer should be in the list of printers provided with CUPS
[08:33] <cvramankishore> xmms
[08:33] <cvramankishore> dmitriy: XMMS
[08:34] <Jack_Sparrow> gean: it seems some may have had sucess setting usb in cmos to 1.1 and not 2 to get that working.
[08:34] <BlueEagle> xyr|x: or ldaptor-webui
[08:34] <dmitriy> cvramankishore -- try totem or rhytmbox
[08:34] <DanaG> Do you happen to know what codec your board uses?
[08:34] <cvramankishore> o k
[08:35] <xyr|x> blueeagle : are those tools able to set my box to authenticate using external LDAP?
[08:35] <no0tic> DanaG, I know the module loaded for the card
[08:35] <BlueEagle> xyr|x: No, they are for managing ldap servers afaik.
[08:35] <facugaich> does anyone know a good video editing program for ubuntu?
[08:35] <b0301223> oi
[08:35] <BlueEagle> xyr|x: try: aptitude search ldap
[08:35] <no0tic> DanaG, snd_hda_codec
[08:35] <no0tic> DanaG, snd_hda_intel
[08:35] <dmitriy> facugaich -- kino
[08:35] <BlueEagle> xyr|x: that will give you a list of (mostly relevant) ldap packages.
[08:36] <BlueEagle> xyr|x: as I said before I don't know ldap so all I am doing here is guessing. :)
[08:36] <mxpxpod> cafuego: ping
[08:36] <DanaG> Let me look to see how I found what codec.
[08:36] <cvramankishore> dmitriy: now when i m trying to use two players xmms and sound juicer at a time,
[08:36] <xyr|x> blueeagle : aight.. thanx ;P
[08:36] <cvramankishore> some sounds r comming
[08:36] <cvramankishore> but music is not continuous
[08:36] <harisund> ardchoille: how do I use ^ to find out lines that do not start with a particular #? I thought !^# would work? :(
[08:36] <dmitriy> cvramankishore -- what the heck just get rthymbox and ull be fine
[08:36] <kim___> harisund: Using grep?
[08:36] <ardchoille> harisund: no idea
[08:37] <cvramankishore> dmitriy: ok ok
[08:37] <cvramankishore> i lll try tht
[08:37] <zanaga> is there something that i should know about current DRI implementation? With i810, i'm seeing "direct rendering: Enabled" in X logs, and DRI:no with glxinfo (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20205)
[08:37] <harisund> kim___ no can't do . I need to use that in a sed exression .. grep -v works but I can't use that.
[08:37] <kim___> harisund: Ah, okay.
[08:37] <kim___> Sorry, don't know the solution off-hand.
[08:38] <hangfire> I added a second keyboard layout, how do I access my secondary keyboard layout?
[08:38] <harisund> kim___ and ardchoille ^[^#]  works :) . Basically ^ inside a []  means negation, so I used that ninstead :)
[08:38] <kim___> harisund: You will miss empty lines
[08:38] <DanaG> I can't find where it says the codec
[08:39] <harisund> kim___ that's fine :)
[08:39] <facugaich> dmitriy: that one is for Digital Video, which formats does that include? or is it only for a digital camcorder?
[08:39] <no0tic> DanaG, could you say my name when you talk with me? so the line is highlighted
[08:39] <hangfire> anyone know how to switch to secondary (non-default) keyboard layouts?
[08:39] <dmitriy> facugaich -- what are you trying to do?
[08:39] <cvramankishore> dmitriy: suddenly i dont know wht happened but every thing started working again
[08:39] <nu> anyone know where to choose startup modules?
[08:39] <dmitriy> cvramankishore -- what is everything?
[08:39] <Subhuman> hangfire, system-prefeerences-keyboard
[08:39] <cvramankishore> let me restart my comp and confirm it
[08:40] <cvramankishore> songs r playing
[08:40] <garrett|mobile> nu, /etc/modules, I think
[08:40] <cvramankishore> i can hear them
[08:40] <nu> garrett|mobile: thank you
[08:40] <hangfire> Subhuman, I already added my secondary layout, now I need to know how to access it while Im typing
[08:40] <garrett|mobile> nu, I was wrong. Let me dig.
[08:40] <garrett|mobile> Hold on.
[08:40] <nu> garrett|mobile: alright
[08:40] <dmitriy> cvramankishore -- ok
[08:40] <facugaich> dmitriy: editing videos from the internet, maybe joining them and adding some pictures, much like Windows Movie Maker
[08:41] <DanaG> no0tic: Try cat /proc/asound/Intel/codec#0
[08:41] <cvramankishore> i lll restart and check it again
[08:41] <cvramankishore> ok c u late
[08:41] <Subhuman> hangfire, do you want to be able to change it whenever?
[08:41] <DanaG> That told me a bunch of stuff; at the top was "Codec: SigmaTel ID 7634"
[08:41] <kaffien> how do you go about compiling a kernel in ubuntu?
[08:41] <marchhare> is anyone good with ati drivers?
[08:41] <keh7d> does ubuntu only offer screen resolution of 1074x768? is that the max?
[08:41] <hangfire> yes, like in windows you just hit alt-shift to switch to a secondary keyboard layout, can you do that in Ubuntu?
[08:41] <Subhuman> hangfire, if so , right click the top bar, clikc "add to panel", then in that list, look for the "keyboard indicator", you can change it with that
[08:42] <hangfire> cool, thanks SubHuman
[08:42] <SurfnKid> where can i enable permissions for apache2 server?
[08:42] <no0tic> DanaG, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20206
[08:42] <DanaG> alt-shift annoys me -- it breaks 'tilde' in games.
[08:42] <dmitriy> facugaich -- sorry thats the only program i know
[08:42] <Subhuman> hangfire, then it should jus show the language, and you click it to cycle through.,
[08:42] <dmitriy> hangfire -- alt + alt is default
[08:42] <SurfnKid> i get an error saying unable to access specified file,
[08:42] <fernando> anyone have x-lite audio (/dev/dsp) problem? I'm using ubuntu 6.06.
[08:42] <SurfnKid> is it apache2.conf or httpd.conf
[08:42] <EnsignRedshirt> keh7d: No... I'm using 1600x1200 at the moment.
[08:43] <hangfire> ok, thanks dmitriy, Ill check that
[08:43] <facugaich> dmitriy: lol, then why did you ask? :P
[08:43] <Ayabara> I have connected an external usbdrive but I don't have write permissions to it. can someone give me a quick hint? it's mounted under /media/usbdisk-1
[08:43] <keh7d> EnsignRedshirt, it seems wierd that i dont have any options higher than 1074
[08:43] <nu> keh
[08:43] <kaffien> how do you compile the kernel in ubuntu?
[08:43] <nu> did you install you driver?
[08:44] <fyrestrtr> !kernel > kaffien
[08:44] <nu> for the video card?
[08:44] <garrett|mobile> nu, Should be /etc/modules.
[08:44] <garrett|mobile> But mine isn't working right now, giving me some error.
[08:44] <nu> garrett|mobile: Is it a file?
[08:44] <dmitriy> facugaich -- u asked lol
[08:44] <kaffien> funny fyrestrtr
[08:44] <DanaG> no0tic: It looks like this may be a bug:  http://www.spinics.net/lists/alsa-devel/msg02225.html
[08:44] <garrett|mobile> nu, Yeah, should be able to gedit it. I did it last night.
[08:44] <garrett|mobile> Haha.
[08:44] <nu> garrett|mobile: lol, thanks man
[08:44] <kaffien> i know how to do it in gentoo etc but im trying to explain it to a new commer to linux
[08:44] <facugaich> dmitriy: I meant why did you ask what I wanted to do hehe
[08:44] <keh7d> nu, i dont think i did install it...
[08:44] <dmitriy> facugaich -- i didnt know what you wanted to do, all you said is video editiong
[08:44] <garrett|mobile> nu, Yeah, no prob. Not sure why it's not working right now. *shrug*
[08:45] <fyrestrtr> its almost the same, except the deployment part :)
[08:45] <facugaich> dmitriy: your proly right, it's ok man
[08:45] <hangfire> dmitry- are you sure about alt-alt? that doesnt do anything
[08:45] <nu> !ati > keh7d
[08:45] <kaffien> ok if i dont have to compile it
[08:45] <kaffien> how do i add cifs support to ubuntu
[08:45] <Gasten> Argh! how come sudo gedit /etx/pmount.allow doesn't work? I have logged one time with sudo, and then it wen't down. Can I log out and in again with some cool command (man sudo didn't make my day)?
[08:45] <nu> keh7d: type "!ATI" and itll give you a link. It's very easy. follow the instructions on the link
[08:45] <dmitriy> facugaich -- id like to know about a program that is like movie maker also
[08:45] <Gasten> /etc/*
[08:45] <terry_> i have tried installing network manager, and it seems to install without error but there is no interface for me to try and configure my wireless network.  Can anyone help?
[08:46] <zanaga> terry_, start nm-applet
[08:46] <keh7d> nu, !ATI where?
[08:46] <nu> here
[08:46] <nu> like this
[08:46] <nu> !ati
[08:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:46] <keh7d> !ATI
[08:46] <SurfnKid> anyone know how to remove a forbidden permission on apache to access a file
[08:46] <cavediver> Hello. Anyone using sshfs ?
[08:46] <keh7d> !ati
[08:47] <fyrestrtr> Gasten: gksudo gedit /etc/pmount.allow
[08:47] <keh7d> cool
[08:47] <JohnRobert> I've got main, universe and multiverse in my sources.list, I've ran apt-get update, but I don't seem to be able to find mplayer (or anything like it) with apt-cache search mplayer... anyone know why that could be? (I'm running ubuntu dapper)
[08:47] <dmitriy> hangfire -- this is what im doing when i need to switch the layout
[08:47] <terry_> zanaga, thanks for the response but how do I start it?
[08:47] <Gasten> fyrestrtr: Whatis gksudo?
[08:47] <fyrestrtr> JohnRobert: change your mirrors
[08:47] <garrett|mobile> Gasten, it's like sudo, allows you to execute SU commands.
[08:47] <nu> keh7d: yea. it wouldnt let me have a resolution highter than 1024 x 728, then i installed the driver and im at the native res. but, if you figure out how to use dual monitors, let me know
[08:47] <lilbit> I am running Dapper, and VMware WS, I run windows inside of vmware and it works fine bridged and windows get s an ip from my dhcp server, but I recently downloaded the astaro virtual security appliance and I it is running in vmware, my problem is that this virtual appliance has a static IP of 192.168.150.5, and my host (ubuntu) is on the 192.168.5.0 network - the reademe says for to change the ip of vmnet1 to one that is on the 192.168.150.0 ne
[08:47] <lilbit> twork, but I cannot figure out how in ubuntu to change the IP of vmnet1
[08:47] <zanaga> terry_, press alt-f2 and type nm-applet
[08:47] <Gasten> ah....
[08:48] <Gasten> well, I understood THAT.
[08:48] <GnarusLeo> I am using kubuntu .. and why is it that EVERY font I am trying to choose to AMSN looks unclear and crappy? Is there something Im missing here?
[08:48] <Gun_Smoke> I would like to read a fairly simple no nonsense how to on setting up using mirrors.
[08:48] <Tonren> Hey guys, you know how in Quake III, you can hit ~ and a terminal pops down from the front?  Is there a GNOME utility like that?
[08:48] <zanaga> terry_, it will be saved to your session and started automatically from there on
[08:48] <nu> Tonren: yes
[08:48] <Tonren> nu: Is it in a package?  Where is it?
[08:48] <nu> Tonren: i use it. i press control + ~ for the terminal
[08:48] <fyrestrtr> lilbit: you need to edit /etc/network/interfaces
[08:48] <Awesome-o2000> Tonren, I use ctrl+alt+f2
[08:49] <Tonren> no no no
[08:49] <Tonren> I don't mean a shortcut to open the terminal
[08:49] <nu> Tonren: go to system  > preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[08:49] <SeanGen> How long does it usually take for the Dapper installation to configure X?
[08:49] <Gasten> hm.. I got this out of gedit:
[08:49] <Gasten> (gedit:5909): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[08:49] <Gasten> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[08:49] <Tonren> I mean a terminal that remains "open" always, but hidden, and slides down from the top of the monitor when you hit a certain key
[08:49] <kim___> OMG I need to go.
[08:49] <nu> Awesome-o2000: thats alot of keys lol
[08:49] <farous> hi I am thinking of repalcing gnome with xubuntu on my server. Is the media player that come with xubntu is also totem or is there a light weight media player for xfce
[08:49] <nu> i use control + 1 for terminal and control + ~ to focus on desktop
[08:50] <lilbit> fyrestrtr, no, that's what I thought but the vmnet's are not in there?
[08:50] <Tonren> nu: I don't think you understand what I'm asking about... I'm not talking about a keyboard shortcut to open a new terminal window
[08:50] <SurfnKid> farous, how do i set the permissions on apache to remove forbidden file access on the main root dir of apache?
[08:50] <fyrestrtr> lilbit: I guess you need to read up on vmware's docs
[08:50] <terry_> zanaga, I ran it but still nothing. nothing appeared
[08:50] <Tonren> nu: I'm specifically looking for a terminal window that is always "open" but hidden, and slides down from the top of the screen when you hit a button.  For quick commands and stuff
[08:50] <zanaga> terry_, the interface appears in the notification-area, near the clock
[08:50] <ardchoille> Tonren: Having a hidden/sliding terminal would require an extra app.
[08:50] <fyrestrtr> SurfnKid: that's a dumb idea
[08:51] <GnarusLeo> I am using kubuntu .. and why is it that EVERY font I am trying to choose to AMSN looks unclear and crappy? Is there something Im missing here?   And My KDE use "sans serif 10" .. but this isnt on the AMSN list even ..
[08:51] <SurfnKid> fyrestrtr, its one file, ill put the permissions back
[08:51] <Tonren> ardchoille: That's what I'm asking about.  Is there a GNOME app that does that?
[08:51] <zanaga> terry_, it's just a simple icon when you click it, it will show you a list of network interfaces
[08:51] <Tonren> ardchoille: I know there's one for KDE, but I'm on GNOME.
[08:51] <fyrestrtr> Tonren: just put it on another workspace, and ctrl+alt+arrow keys
[08:51] <terry_> zanaga - nope, its not there.  The normal network connection icon is there, but not what I would have thought network manager is
[08:51] <lilbit> fyrestrtr, ok, thanks
[08:51] <fyrestrtr> SurfnKid: move it to somewhere else.
[08:51] <Tonren> fyrestrtr: That would also be a practical solution.  However, it would be both aesthetic and extremely fast to have a "dropdown" terminal.
[08:51] <ardchoille> Tonren: Not that I know of.
[08:52] <fyrestrtr> Tonren: alt+f2 :)
[08:52] <zanaga> terry_, the icon looks like the normal network connection icon, do you have 2 of them?
[08:52] <Tonren> fyrestrtr: Yeah, but then you don't get STDOUT.  :\
[08:52] <lz1gjd> !compiz
[08:52] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:52] <SurfnKid> fyrestrtr, but i dont konw how to set permissions to let it access the file, if i click on it to download it says forbidden, im trying to enable access to download it, where should i move it?
[08:52] <slytherin> Has anyone here downloaded dapper point one using jigdo?
[08:53] <terry_> zanaga, no, nothing. sorry but I think there is a problem elsewhere.  Is there a way to see if the process is running at all?
[08:53] <fyrestrtr> SurfnKid: chmod 777 thefile
[08:53] <SurfnKid> slytherin, i dl dapper using jigdo
[08:53] <rpedro_> Tonren: http://tilda.sourceforge.net/ <<
[08:53] <SurfnKid> fyrestrtr, to download it? youre kidding
[08:53] <Tonren> rpedro_: I JUST hit that on a Google search!  XD  Thanks!
[08:53] <SurfnKid> ok
[08:53] <slytherin> SurfnKid: I am specifically talking about dapper point one (6.06.1)
[08:53] <acojlo> how to set totem-xine to use X11 or XSHM insted of XVMC ?
[08:53] <tes1> hello there
[08:53] <rpedro_> Tonren: haha ;)
[08:53] <Ayabara> !restricted
[08:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:54] <fyrestrtr> SurfnKid: there is an easier way, enable usermod, and move it to ~/public_html, then chown username:username the file
[08:54] <zanaga> terry_, hmm.. you could check if the process is actually running
[08:54] <tes1> is there any news on the java runtime, its not working over here
[08:54] <slytherin> SurfnKid: If I have lots of deb files cached by apt-get then jigdo should have no problem using them right?
[08:54] <tes1> on the new LTS 6.06
[08:54] <fyrestrtr> tes1: news it, it works :)
[08:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !java
[08:54] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[08:54] <Tonren> rpedro_: Surprise!  It's in the repos
[08:54] <facugaich> dmitriy: check this out -> http://www.jahshaka.org/
[08:54] <terry_> zanaga, sorry but how do I do that. I am a complete newbee to linux.
[08:54] <zanaga> terry, system -> administration -> system monitor
[08:54] <ardchoille> Tonren: Type !info tilda  in the channel ;)
[08:55] <SurfnKid> slytherin, not sure actually i used jigdo only not apt get, i was on windows downloading dapper
[08:55] <SurfnKid> fyrestrtr, how do i enable usermod
[08:55] <zanaga> terry_, i was just looking how it's done from the menus ;)
[08:55] <EnsignRedshirt> casten: I just tried gksudo gedit file, and I got the same message that you did.  The editor came up, but the file name was wrapped in single quotes (very strange).  If you must edit a file now (rather than figure out how to get gksudo to work as expected), you could use the terminal-based editor nano, e.g: sudo nano file
[08:55] <Tonren> ardchoille: I know, I know... I found it in the repos.  XD  Thank you.
[08:55] <slytherin> SurfnKid: Ok
[08:55] <fyrestrtr> SurfnKid: sudo a2enmod userdir
[08:56] <acojlo> how to set totem-xine to use X11 or XSHM insted of XVMC ?
[08:56] <ardchoille> Tonren: Thanks for posting your original question.. I'm gonna have a look at tilda myself :)
[08:56] <nu> Tonren: dont know =/
[08:56] <fyrestrtr> SurfnKid: then restart apache
[08:56] <Tonren> ardchoille: Hehe, you're welcome.
[08:56] <Tonren> nu: Huh?
[08:56] <SurfnKid> fyrestrtr, that creates the dir right? and to remove it
[08:56] <steve> can anyone tell me how to use a network with a WEP key?
[08:57] <SurfnKid> fyrestrtr, btw chmod 777 fixed it, i can downlad it now
[08:57] <sa0> hum ! once again, sorry for this
[08:57] <sa0> wanted to know if someone uses initng (with dapper) ?
[08:57] <nu> Tonren: dont know how to help you out. You want it out be hidden on the side, and when you press ~, it scrolls in?
[08:57] <Nullify> anyone here running Counter-Strike Source on Ubuntu
[08:57] <Nullify> ?
[08:57] <Tonren> nu: I found a solution.  It's an app called tilda
[08:57] <Tonren> !info tilda
[08:57] <ubotu> tilda: Linux terminal which behaves like terminals in shooter games. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.09.1-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 33 kB, installed size 148 kB
[08:57] <geeKISSexy> Hi!!! Has anyone used ipw3945 in ad-hoc mode ?
[08:57] <nu> Tonren: awesome
[08:57] <Tonren> ardchoille: Gah... tilda is horribly broken for me!  XD
[08:57] <geeKISSexy> I see that it doesn't work in ad-hoc mode for me.
[08:58] <EnsignRedshirt> Gasten: I just tried gksudo gedit file, and I got the same message that you did.  The editor came up, but the file name was wrapped in single quotes (very strange).  If you must edit a file now (rather than figure out how to get gksudo to work as expected), you could use the terminal-based editor nano, e.g: sudo nano file
[08:58] <acojlo> how to set totem-xine to use X11 or XSHM insted of XVMC ?
[08:58] <unity> hi, i am having problem with CM8738, i cannot use the mic while i am hearing something (ie half-duplex) so i cannot use skype. is this known? is this a problem with the card?
[08:58] <ardchoille> Tonren: I'll install it when I'm back in X on the other machine. Currently using irssi via ssh session
[08:58] <Tonren> ardchoille: That's hardcore
[08:58] <terry_> zanaga, ok, I got the processes listed and there is 3 copies of nm-applet which are all sleeping
[08:58] <Tonren> Hey, has anyone else gotten Tilda working in GNOME?
[08:59] <shawnr_> what program should I use for creating gdm themes?
[08:59] <Nullify> tonren yeah i have
[08:59] <kaffien> how do i add cifs suport to ubuntu?
[08:59] <ardchoille> Tonren: I have X on only one machine.. the other 9 machines just ssh in :)
[08:59] <Gasten> EnsignRedshirt: Well, ok. I suppose I could use Vi too, which I'm more used to.
[08:59] <Gasten> EnsignRedshirt: Thanks.
[08:59] <terry_> zanaga, had a bit of a network problem.  sorry i might have missed any of your replies.  I will repost my last one
[08:59] <SurfnKid> fyrestrtr, thanks for the help man
[08:59] <terry_> zanaga, ok, I got the processes listed and there is 3 copies of nm-applet which are all sleeping
[09:00] <Nullify> Tonren: what seems to be the problem with tilda
[09:00] <frafra> i have problem with software raid , after install in the ubuntu server the grub give me error 17...
[09:00] <Tonren> Nullify: It's pretty broken for me.  It sits in the upper left corner, and the keybinding just makes it flash instead of disappear
[09:00] <zanaga> terry_, that's a bit odd.. do you have any NetworkManager processes?
[09:00] <frafra> hi
[09:00] <GnarusLeo> I am using kubuntu .. and why is it that EVERY font I am trying to choose to AMSN looks unclear and crappy? Is there something Im missing here?   And My KDE use "sans serif 10" .. but this isnt on the AMSN list even ..
[09:00] <Tonren> Nullify: Additionally, it's floating in the upper left corner without even touching the top of the screen, or anything like that
[09:00] <EnsignRedshirt> Gasten: My (possibly  incomplete) understanding is that sudo will not open an X session.  Apparently that is a security risk.  gksudp is supposed to allow it, but it appears to be acting funny.
[09:01] <EnsignRedshirt> *gksudo
[09:01] <shawnr_> anyone know a good how to for creating GDM themes?
[09:01] <Nullify> Tonren: are you running a geforce buy any chance?
[09:01] <Tonren> Nullify: No, I'm on a laptop with integraded ATI Radeon graphics
[09:01] <Tonren> *integrated
[09:02] <terry_> zanaga, nah, no "networkmanager", just 3 "nm-applet"'s (3 because I ran it 3 times from the run dialog box
[09:02] <ardchoille> shawnr_: I have made a lot of gdm themes.. most people just copy one from /usr/share/gdm/themes (or download one), change what they need to and repackage it.
[09:02] <zanaga> terry_, odd, you could try rebooting once.
[09:02] <tes1> the point is , default install , java does not work
[09:02] <terry_> zanaga, Ok, I will try that and let you know.
[09:02] <Gasten> EnsignRedshirt: Ah, ok. so gk stands fror GNOME-KDE, or something, then? Well.. I think I've run graphic applications with sudo... but I'm not sure...
[09:02] <shawnr_> ardchoille, is there a config file i can edit for things like transperency?
[09:03] <tes1> and yes i can thinker around and get it working, but i consider it an serieus bug
[09:03] <tes1> for an newbee
[09:03] <ardchoille> shawnr_: The transparency will be from a transparent picture file
[09:03] <tes1> hmm
[09:03] <shawnr_> ahhh
[09:03] <shawnr_> k
[09:03] <tes1> okey , we will have to live with it
[09:03] <DrBashir> Is it ok to ghost for a little bit, I'm trying to see which client I like most on a high traffic channel...
[09:04] <shawnr_> ardchoille, png or svg?
[09:04] <ardchoille> shawnr_: gdm supports both
[09:04] <Tonren> Gah, he left
[09:04] <kaffien> can i add CIFS without a kernel rebuild?
[09:05] <aimaz> how do i tell my wireless card what wep key to use?
[09:05] <aimaz> it's failing
[09:05] <Gasten> EnsignRedshirt: Well, nano seems to work (vi didn't), but I'm very unused to it. how do you save? it sais I sgould pres ^ and O,or something but that just makes a .
[09:05] <zanaga> kaffien, have you tried sudo modprobe cifs?
[09:05] <fyrestrtr> Gasten: ^ means the ctrl key
[09:06] <kaffien> no zanaga i have not yet
[09:06] <Gasten> fyrestrtr: Ah.. My n00b ass.
[09:06] <ardchoille> shawnr_: Here's one I made. You can dl it and unpack it to see how they are put together: http://art.gnome.org/themes/gdm_greeter/1139
[09:06] <shawnr_> thanks
[09:06] <DrBashir> aimaz, goto system-networking
[09:06] <straylite> hi kids :)
[09:06] <EnsignRedshirt> Gasten: nano's key binding are annoying:  crtl-O to save, ctrl-X to quit.
[09:06] <Gasten> Thanks all!
[09:06] <DrBashir> aimaz, then select your wireless connection and click configure
[09:07] <DrBashir> aimaz, sorry, porperties\
[09:07] <straylite> anyone here running dapper drake who could zip me their init.d scripts? i've deleted mine :D
[09:07] <gibsonsg> where can i go to get the w32codecs pac?
[09:07] <niall> hey guys i just installed Live3DPoker using wine and wish to know where c:/programfiles is in ubuntu
[09:08] <fyrestrtr> !codecs > gibsonsg
[09:08] <calc> msg alexis_rose hi
[09:08] <fyrestrtr> straylite: lol how did you manage that?
[09:08] <DrBashir> aimaz, fill in the first field your SSID (the name of your wireless network)
[09:08] <aimaz> niall, in ~/.wine/ somewhere
[09:08] <niall> and how i would find out what the proper launcher is called
[09:08] <DrBashir> aimaz, are you following?
[09:08] <straylite> fyrestrtr: doing rm -f ** in /etc/init.d hehe
[09:08] <EnsignRedshirt> niall: Try .wine/drive_c in your home directory.
[09:08] <aimaz> DrBashir, yes, I filled in the things and now it is doing "activating network"
[09:08] <soundray> I have a binary that runs fine on Ubuntu, but I need to run it on Mandrake 10.2, where it fails saying "/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.6' not found". Is there a workaround for that? Can I just copy the Ubuntu libstdc++ to the other system and run with that?
[09:08] <fyrestrtr> clearly too talented for your own good
[09:08] <aimaz> ooh it stopped
[09:09] <ardchoille> fyrestrtr: hahaha
[09:09] <aimaz> it doesn't have an IP address
[09:09] <DrBashir> aimaz, if it takes longer than 5 seconds it probably failed
[09:09] <straylite> i know - i'm so sharp, i actually cut myself
[09:09] <aimaz> DrBashir, what could cause it to fail?
[09:09] <aimaz> a wifi manager program told me the signal strength is good
[09:09] <aimaz> which i would expect as i'm sat by the router
[09:09] <DrBashir> aimaz, a typo in the WEP key for example... make sure your router uses WEP
[09:09] <ych> ok time for the next noob question, when watching vids on youtube i have no sound, what am i forgetting here?
[09:10] <aimaz> and it works fine in windows
[09:10] <straylite> firestrtr: i'm a bit special ;)
[09:10] <Jeruvy> soundray: anything with glibc is touchy stuff.  I'd consider rewriting the tool specifically for ubuntu (or whichver you need it on)
[09:10] <alexis_rose> msg calc hello
[09:10] <therix> hello
[09:10] <perfection> hellp?
[09:10] <alexis_rose> Calc
[09:10] <kaffien> my friend forogt his root password
[09:10] <kaffien> how do you recover that in ubuntu?
[09:11] <aimaz> boot from a live cd
[09:11] <perfection> that works
[09:11] <DrBashir> aimaz, I had this same problem a few minutes ago, I had to set it to hexi and type it from another PC connected to the router
[09:11] <EnsignRedshirt> kaffien: By default, there isn't a root password.
[09:11] <soundray> Jeruvy: okay, I thought it would be like that. I'll ask the developer to compile it for my target system. Thanks for your input.
[09:11] <kaffien> ohhh
[09:11] <abo> kaffien, or log in from "recovery mode"
[09:11] <kaffien> so i just type in root with no password?
[09:11] <zanaga> kaffien, you log in with the user created while installation and use sudo
[09:11] <EnsignRedshirt> kaffien: No.
[09:11] <terryb> hi terry_ here.  I have just restarted, nm_applet is a running process but still no icons anywhere to run the app
[09:11] <frafra> i have problem with software raid , after install in the ubuntu server the grub give me error 17 : cannot mount selected partition
[09:12] <aimaz> kaffien, if your friend logs in with his normal username and password
[09:12] <aimaz> he can use sudo
[09:12] <aimaz> with his password
[09:12] <kaffien> k
[09:12] <aimaz> or her
[09:12] <EnsignRedshirt> !root
[09:12] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:12] <eleazar123> anybody know the simplest way to upgrade to edgy from dapper?
[09:12] <perfection> how do you set up a direct file transfer over IRC?
[09:12] <straylite> what's edgy?
[09:13] <straylite> perfection: /dcc send username filename
[09:13] <kaffien> thats messed up
[09:13] <DrBashir2> !edgy
[09:13] <perfection> thanks
[09:13] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[09:13] <kaffien> i know what sudo is
[09:13] <slytherin> eleazar123: Arte you sure you want to know that? Edgy is still  in development.
[09:13] <straylite> oh i see - thanks ubotu
[09:13] <kaffien> i just didnt realise that ubuntu has no root pass thats wierd
[09:13] <ych> anyone know how to make sound work on youtube? i have flash and java and stuff....
[09:13] <ardchoille> perfection: XChat?
[09:13] <eleazar123> slytherin, i just want access to the latest versions of certain programs (like gaim/rhythmbox etc)
[09:13] <DrBashir> aimaz, got it working yet?
[09:13] <slytherin> !schedule
[09:13] <kaffien> X-Chat
[09:13] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[09:13] <perfection> yea, noob
[09:13] <aimaz> DrBashir, 'fraid not
[09:13] <sivik> !fglrx
[09:13] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:13] <Ayabara> !java
[09:13] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[09:13] <therix> anyone knows how to strip http data packet?
[09:14] <sivik> what is the channel for glx info
[09:14] <aimaz> it also shows the wrong status for the network card i'm actually using
[09:14] <slytherin> eleazar123: Then you are not looking for upgrade to edgy. Either compile and install or use backports repositories
[09:14] <ardchoille> perfection: in xchat, you can just right-click on the username in the user list and there is a menu item to send them a file.
[09:14] <GnarusLeo> I am using kubuntu .. and why is it that EVERY font I am trying to choose to AMSN looks unclear and crappy? Is there something Im missing here?   And My KDE use "sans serif 10" .. but this isnt on the AMSN list even ..
[09:14] <eleazar123> slytherin, where would you suggest looking for backport repositories? (i'm not sure what a backport repo is)
[09:14] <bruenig> as is the case with gaim, right click send file
[09:14] <LOL> Lithuanian is spoken here ?
[09:14] <FantasticFoo> what all drivers do i need to play quicktime?
[09:14] <Eclypse> hey all how do I fix my ati driver setup so it'll stop showing Mesa when I type fglrxinfo?
[09:15] <fyrestrtr> !codecs > Fanskapet
[09:15] <fyrestrtr> whoops
[09:15] <DrBashir> aimaz, manually typing the ex code from the router into the dialog doesn't work either? (ofcourse you'd need to set hexadecimal instead of Plain (ascii)
[09:15] <FantasticFoo> or is this not possible on linux
[09:15] <slytherin> !tell eleazar123 about backports
[09:15] <fyrestrtr> !codecs > FantasticFoo
[09:15] <sivik> Eclypse: what kind of card is it
[09:15] <raf> hello
[09:15] <straylite> hi raf
[09:15] <FantasticFoo> fyrestrtr: oh, thanks!
[09:15] <devz0r> how do i install doom 3?
[09:15] <perfection> nice, thank you
[09:15] <slytherin> !info backports
[09:15] <ubotu> Package backports does not exist in dapper
[09:15] <Eclypse> sivik, ATI Mobility Radeon X300 PCI Express 64MB
[09:15] <ardchoille> !backports
[09:15] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[09:15] <GnarusLeo> !backports
[09:15] <raf> i have a problem..i instaled fluxbox...when i go in it..i right click the screen and all i get is a "fluxbox" icon
[09:15] <GnarusLeo> :)
[09:15] <raf> no menu
[09:15] <raf> :(
[09:15] <sivik> Eclypse: well, i'm having issue with an Xpress 200M
[09:16] <Eclypse> sivik, those ones aren't very well supported lol
[09:16] <eleazar123> thanks guys, exactly what i was looking for :)
[09:16] <sivik> Eclypse: i know
[09:16] <Eclypse> sivik, apparently the new drivers get that shit working perfectly.
[09:16] <devz0r> how do i install doom3?
[09:16] <Eclypse> sivik, but I Hear its still a struggle.
[09:16] <devz0r> i have the cd inserted, i just don't know how to start the install process
[09:16] <terryb> hi, I can't remember who I was talking to and my name has change from terry_ to terryb.  Is the z man there that I was talking to before I rebooted...
[09:16] <Eclypse> sivik, do you know how to get my drivers working perfectly or what?
[09:17] <sivik> Eclypse: i know nothing about your drivers, this is the only computer i have with ati crap in it
[09:17] <Ayabara> is ktorrent a good choice for a bittorrent client
[09:18] <sivik> Ayabara: i use bittorrent
[09:18] <alexis_rose>  /msg nickserv register (stranded)
[09:18] <Eclypse> Can anyone help me get my ATI Drivers working perfectly?? Please do NOT send me to a guide. I need step by step help with this because it appears to be alot more complex then the 6 threads I read.
[09:18] <bruenig> Ayabara, if you are using gnome, going with a KDE app just for bittorrent seems like a bad idea just because of all of the kde libs you must have
[09:18] <azcazandco> any web developers in here?
[09:18] <niall> guys when trying to 'Live3DPoker.exe' through wine I get missing dll errors could this be easily sorted or should i use a good native linux poker app (any recommendations if not)
[09:19] <kaffien> hehe gentoo's guides work at least
[09:19] <kaffien> im having issues with my nvidia in ubuntu as wel
[09:19] <sivik> kaffien: what kind of nvidia card is it
[09:19] <Eclypse> Can anyone help me get my ATI Drivers working perfectly?? Please do NOT send me to a guide. I need step by step help with this because it appears to be alot more complex then the 6 threads I read.
[09:19] <sivik> kaffien: it it realtively new or is it older?
[09:19] <slytherin> eleazar123: Actually backports repository is not yet active. Take a look at these bugs to find packages under testing. https://launchpad.net/products/dapper-backports/+bugs
[09:20] <mikolan> Any guide for installing nforce4 drivers?
[09:20] <fyrestrtr> Eclypse: that's what a guide is, step by step instructions. Did you read the wiki or some forum?
[09:20] <slytherin> Eclypse: Which card is it?
[09:20] <ardchoille> kaffien: I have installed the ati and nvidia drivers on many different boxes using the wiki pages.. it was quite easy.
[09:20] <alexis_rose>  /msg nickserv identify (stranded)
[09:20] <sivik> mikolan: which drivers
[09:20] <visik7> Eclypse: ati driver are crappy
[09:20] <sivik> visik7: yes, we know that
[09:20] <eleazar123> slytherin, ok thanks, i was just about to say that it doesn't look like dapper has any backports
[09:20] <devz0r> how do i install doom 3 natively?
[09:20] <sivik> visik7: so what would you suggest using?
[09:20] <visik7> Eclypse: so don't blame if they don't work as you expect
[09:20] <mikolan> sivik: NFORCE-Linux-x86-1.0-0310
[09:20] <visik7> sivik: change video card with intel or nvidia :)
[09:20] <sivik> mikolan: what is it for?
[09:20] <fyrestrtr> Eclypse: I have a ATI x300 64MB on my laptop -- works perfectly with ati drivers.
[09:20] <sivik> visik7: thats kinda hard, its integrated on the laptop mobo
[09:20] <Eclypse> fryestrtr, I've read every bloody guide lol. its a Mobility Radeon X300 64MB PCIe
[09:20] <slytherin> Eclypse: which card?
[09:21] <visik7> sivik: intel ?
[09:21] <mikolan> intgrated network
[09:21] <sivik> visik7: hell not, intel sucks
[09:21] <bruenig> is anyone in here using windows right now or have access to a windows drive right now?
[09:21] <frafra> i have problem with software raid , after install in the ubuntu server the grub give me error 17 : cannot mount selected partition... Can anyone help me?
[09:21] <visik7> sivik:  intel has opensourced their drivers
[09:21] <sivik> mikolan: the integrated network shoudl already work without installing any extra drivers
[09:21] <Eclypse> fryestertr please spare me the basics, I KNOW it can work, its just a bit messed up at the moment.
[09:21] <kaffien> i need to try again  i was lasy that night
[09:21] <fyrestrtr> Eclypse: you have the exact same card as I do, and it works fine. So guess you need to upgrade your reading skills.
[09:21] <devz0r> how do i install doom3 natively
[09:21] <sivik> visik7: bfd, i don't like intel
[09:21] <Ayabara> bruenig: I use gnome. u got a suggestion for a client? don't really like azureus or the default client in ubuntu
[09:21] <ardchoille> fyrestrtr: lol
[09:21] <Eclypse> frestrtr you do to, apparently.
[09:21] <kaffien> im used to   emerge nvidia-kernal and them working  or   sh nvidiasdrivers.bin and it working
[09:21] <duggan> hello
[09:22] <fyrestrtr> Eclypse: I used the wiki. Have you read it? What is not working? What errors do you get?
[09:22] <duggan> anyone ther
[09:22] <fyrestrtr> kaffien: suggest you go back to gentoo then :)
[09:22] <sivik> kaffien: thats the hard way to try, follow the wiki for it, wiki.ubuntu.org and type in nvidia
[09:22] <slytherin> duggan: lots of 'one's
[09:22] <frafra> :(
[09:22] <Eclypse> fyrestrtr when I type fglrxinfo its showing mesa. also I don't think there is any direct rendering for the desktop, it appears to be using the CPU even when the video drivers ARE working. I remember I got it working before but it required alot of help and hours of work.
[09:22] <bruenig> Ayabara, I use utorrent with wine but that takes some configuring to get running smoothly, bittornado is ok. It doesn't support DHT which I think is kind of important though.
[09:23] <Tonren> Hey guys, anyone get transparency to work in GNOME?
[09:23] <fyrestrtr> Eclypse: are you using xgl?
[09:23] <Eclypse> nope
[09:23] <Eclypse> I intend to, though.
[09:23] <bruenig> Ayabara, if you do want to use utorrent, there is a real good how to on the forums, such search using utorrent with wine, I think that is the name of the thread
[09:23] <slytherin> Tonren: transparency in which part?
[09:23] <zanaga> bruenig, utorrent with wine.. that's actually quite slick
[09:23] <johnpipi> hey will ubuntu have those cool effects that the novell linux has?
[09:23] <fyrestrtr> Eclypse: if flgrxinfo shows mesa, then you are not using the accelerated drivers. First, follow the wiki, then come back here.
[09:23] <Tonren> slytherin: GTK+ "real" transparency
[09:23] <Eclypse> fyrestrtr, you are useless to me.
[09:24] <keh7d> !ati
[09:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:24] <frafra> i have made e clip with the problem (is a guide for user who have to install raid1 software on ubuntu server too) can i past a rapideshare link for visioning?
[09:24] <sivik> keh7d: already tried that, it doesn't work
[09:24] <ardchoille> Tonren: gnome doesn't support transparency in GTK or metacity themes
[09:24] <Eclypse> fyrestrtr, you are the one who has the reading problem here, I mentioned from the beginning that I don't want a bloody guide, that means if you can't help don't bother messaging me.
[09:24] <bruenig> Tonren, I have transparency in my terminal. Thats about it, using it elsewhere kind of looks stupid because my desktop is a grayish black color
[09:24] <fyrestrtr> Eclypse: I'm just telling you how it is. If you refuse help, that's a different story. I'm telling you that -- a *lot* have people have followed the wiki without any problems. Since I don't know how/what you have been doing, its easier to start clean from a common reference point. Call me useless? Fine. But anyone else will tell you the same.
[09:24] <ardchoille> fyrestrtr: I could get Eclypse's drivers working, but I refuse to help him because of just that attitude he has
[09:25] <Tonren> bruenig: ardchoille: slytherin: I built an app called tilda from source; it's a dropdown terminal like what you have in first person shooters. I'd like to make it transparent, but its transparency acts as though only the desktop exists beneath it.
[09:25] <Eclypse> Well that's nice.
[09:25] <erUSUL> zanaga: Ayabara bruenig is easy to run utorrent with wine. dl the standalone version and do wine /path/to/exe
[09:25] <Intangir> whats a good picture viewer than can view animated gifs? and tgas that arent quite 100% upto standard..
[09:25] <Tonren> ardchoille: I see... what other themes are there?
[09:25] <bruenig> Tonren, well yeah, it only has a desktop behind it, I guess that is not real transparency
[09:25] <viktor> Hi all how do i enable S/PDIF in ubuntu ??
[09:25] <zanaga> erUSUL, just did that ;)
[09:25] <Eclypse> ardchoille, it appears you have a bad attitude as well, you probably wouldn't have helped me anyways.
[09:25] <fyrestrtr> Eclypse: the quality of help you get, is directly proportional to your attiude.
[09:25] <frafra> for my problem where i can ask? the #unbuntu-server ?
[09:26] <niall> has anyone any experience using wine
[09:26] <Tonren> bruenig: The whole reason I want transparency is so that if I need to refer to a doc that's covered by the terinal, I can still read it
[09:26] <Necrosan_> the stupid ubuntu installer has been at 97%
[09:26] <Eclypse> frestrtr I am aware of that, but the fact that text has no tone of voice, no body language, it is often misinterpreted.
[09:26] <Necrosan_> "cleaning up"
[09:26] <fyrestrtr> niall: sure, what do you need help with?
[09:26] <Tonren> niall: A littl ebit, why?
[09:26] <Necrosan_> for the last 15 minutes
[09:26] <Necrosan_> What the hell is it doing?
[09:26] <frafra> this i the video with the problem at the end... http://rapidshare.de/files/28893710/UbuntuServerRaid1.avi.html
[09:26] <puppet> http://www.aish.com/movies/PhotoFraud.asp
[09:26] <niall> trying to run Live3DPoker and it freezes on the splash
[09:26] <ompaul> Necrosan_, chill, do ctrl+alt+f4 and see if there is any info
[09:27] <terryb> I have installed nm-applet but no interface for me to configure wireless network card.  there is a nm-applet process running, just no interface. can anyone help.  cheers
[09:27] <fyrestrtr> Eclypse: read the wiki, then come back if it doesn't work or if you face any confusion with the directions.
[09:27] <Tonren> niall: Have you tooled around with winecfg?
[09:27] <Necrosan_> ompaul: Same stuff that's been there for the last 15.
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[09:27] <fyrestrtr> niall: first step, go to http://appdb.winehq.org and find out how well your app is supported.
[09:27] <anolis> Hello, I'm seeking help regarding monitor resolutions
[09:27] <Eclypse> fyrestrtr I guess I'll read it for the 20th time now.
[09:27] <bruenig> anolis, what you got
[09:27] <Eclypse> !ati
[09:27] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:27] <anolis> my computer used to run fine at 1280x1024, but a 3d app changed my resolution, I tried to change it back unsuccesfully.  and now I can only get a maximum res of 1024x768
[09:28] <yeti> security.ubuntu.com has been _awfully_ slow yesterday and today... or is it just me?
[09:28] <KristianDK> Hi
[09:28] <fyrestrtr> anolis: what app did you run?
[09:28] <anolis> i can post the out put of ddcprobe to you if you wish
[09:28] <pkrumins> Does anyone know where does the information redirected to /dev/null go?
[09:28] <Boj> Has anyone had a problem where no matter what you change your screen resolution to. It stays at the highest? (1280*1024)?
[09:28] <Tonren> niall: Run winecfg, click on "Add application", then select the .exe of the program you're trying to run
[09:28] <anolis> steam..
[09:28] <KristianDK> I have some troubles with the "" characters, in txt files from windows, they arent displayed
[09:28] <celia> Hello, everybody. Does anyone knows how to install skencil in dapper? I've tried with python2.4 and tcl/tk8.2, and no success
[09:28] <fyrestrtr> pkrumins: no where. The bit bucket in the sky.
[09:29] <anolis> it bumped me into 640 x 480
[09:29] <anolis> lol
[09:29] <Tonren> niall: Now you can mess with which windows version it'll try to emulate, and generally click on random things in winecfg until it works.  That's what I do.
[09:29] <Celarnor> pkrumins: That's kind of the point of /dev/null.  It goes nowhere.
[09:29] <anolis> well counterstrike through steam
[09:29] <anolis> and even still cs didnt work..
[09:29] <fyrestrtr> anolis: have you tried cycling through the resolutions? ctrl+alt numpad+ and numpad- will cycle res.
[09:29] <bruenig> does anybody have cmd.exe that they can send me. I need it for wine.
[09:29] <pkrumins> okay
 thanks mate gonna try this
[09:30] <Intangir> what is a good lightweight picture viewer that can view animated gifs?
[09:30] <Celarnor> bruenig, I could send cmd.exe to you in a few minutes.
[09:30] <bruenig> Celarnor, I just remembered I had it backed up on disk. I will just get it from there
[09:30] <anolis> my xorg.conf file is currently set for only 640 x 480, 800 x 600, and 1024 x 768 to work
[09:30] <EnsignRedshirt> pkrumins: It goes to a 5.25 floppy disk on a computer in a remote forest on the planet Tralfamadore.
[09:30] <fyrestrtr> anolis: add your resolution to it then.
[09:30] <anolis> adding 1280x1024 causes my monitor to go oor
[09:31] <Tonren> niall: no prob.  also you might be able to find some info on www.winehq.org
[09:31] <pkrumins> EnsignRedshirt, what happens when the 5.25 floppy gets full?
[09:31] <anolis> i need to define the refresh rate
[09:31] <fyrestrtr> anolis: you said that you had it working before at that res?
[09:31] <anolis> i dont know how
[09:31] <anolis> yes
[09:31] <fyrestrtr> anolis: is it a lcd or a crt?
[09:31] <ardchoille> pkrumins: Where in the heck are you buying 5.25 floopies?
[09:31] <anolis> crt
[09:31] <EnsignRedshirt> pkrumins: That is only known to the Elders.
[09:31] <anolis> Gateway EV700
[09:31] <Celarnor> I wouldn't even know WHERE to get 5.25s...
[09:31] <anolis> automatically setup
[09:31] <tonyyarusso> Does the CoC have licensing terms?
[09:31] <fyrestrtr> anolis: look it up on the web. refresh rates are not something you should gess.
[09:32] <fyrestrtr> *guess
[09:32] <ardchoille> Celarnor: Me too
[09:32] <pkrumins> i buy them on black market
 Im trying to run Live3DPoker and its freezing on startup, maybe you can suggest a good alternative :)
[09:32] <Bob535> I would just like to say, IDE CABLES SUCK BALLZ
[09:32] <anolis> i know them, how do i tell it which refresh rate to use?
[09:32] <Bob535> glad i got that out of my system
[09:32] <Bob535> thought i was going crazy
[09:32] <Celarnor> Bob535: Give a shout out to SCSI.
[09:33] <Boj> I've recently come back from restoring my xorg.conf as it all went pear shaped :(
[09:33] <Bob535> I couldnt figure out why my computer was not working
[09:33] <Tonren> niall: Sorry man.  Beyond winecfg, I got nothin'.
[09:33] <pkrumins> EnsignRedshirt, do you know how does one get a permission to talk to the Elders?
[09:33] <Bob535> ive never had an ide cable fail
[09:33] <fyrestrtr> anolis: I guess the easiest way for you would be to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and enter them there, especially if you are not comfortable editing xorg.conf by hand.
[09:33] <Celarnor> I've never had a cable fail, but I've had plenty of IDE drives fail.
[09:34] <anolis> ok good, cause xserver automatically did it right the first time
[09:34] <niall> Can anyone suggest a good online multiplayer poker app in the mould of most windows based progs for ubuntu??
[09:34] <anolis> when i installed...
[09:34] <EnsignRedshirt> pkrumins: Sorry, no.
[09:34] <anolis> ill get back with you if something goes wrong, likewise if all goes well
[09:34] <pkrumins> I will have to take a long journey to find it out.
[09:34] <pkrumins> Thanks EnsignRedshirt
[09:34] <bruenig> niall, the vast majority of them work really well under wine, perhaps try another, party poker, I don't know what the good ones are but they generally all run under wine
[09:34] <anolis> thanks a bunch firestrtr
[09:34] <azcazandco> if there any web developers in here, have you noticed any bizzare padding bugs on images since moving to testing on firefox in ubuntu?
[09:34] <anolis> fyrestrtr*
[09:35] <EnsignRedshirt> pkrumins: Glad to be of help.  That's what this channel is for. :)
 the thing is the live3dpoker looks totally amazing
[09:35] <Ayabara> bruenig, erUSUL: thanks. utorrent is my preferred choice under windows, so I think I will try it out
[09:36] <EnsignRedshirt> cd
[09:36] <EnsignRedshirt> ooops
[09:36] <Ayabara> erUSUL: is wine hard to setup?
[09:36] <bruenig> niall, try to see if there is a guide somewhere on how to use it. winehq.com, i think that is the url has tons of guides on nearly everything
[09:36] <azureal> hmm... how do i make a symbolic link to a prog w/ an argument?
[09:36] <niall> ok cheers <bruenig>
[09:36] <Rakshan> I have installed win2k on ubuntu using vmware.......will it start at boot time automatically?
[09:36] <azureal> say i wanted "vol" to be bound to "tkmixer -r"
[09:36] <bruenig> Ayabara, wine is really easy to setup
[09:36] <fyrestrtr> azureal: you need an alias. links are for files and directories only
[09:37] <eleazar123> anybody know if there are backports for dapper yet?
[09:37] <Celarnor> Kind of a noobish question, guys...how do I register in this channel?
[09:37] <guest1> I am having issues upgrading from Breezy to Dapper -- all commands on wiki to fix are not working
[09:37] <azureal> fyrestrtr, i can't make a link to a prog w/ a switch?
[09:37] <soundray> !register
[09:37] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[09:37] <terryb> I have installed nm-applet but no interface for me to configure wireless network card.  there is a nm-applet process running, just no interface. can anyone help.  cheers
[09:37] <Celarnor> !register
[09:37] <ardchoille> Celarnor: /msg nickserv help register
[09:37] <guest1> guest1, hangs on upgrading aptitude package
[09:37] <soundray> Celarnor: ^^
[09:37] <fyrestrtr> azureal: you make an alias for commands, not links. Links are for files and directories only.
[09:37] <azureal> fine, fine
[09:37] <djonde> hi from Senegal !!
[09:37] <Celarnor> Oh, heh.  Wow.  Yeah, I'm stupid.
[09:37] <Ayabara> bruenig: is my user settings stored if I run the standalone version of utorrent under wine?
[09:37] <bruenig> Ayabara, this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191161 will take you through everything from setting up wine to installing utorrent
[09:38] <ardchoille> azureal: Have a look at your ~/.bashrc file, there are a few examples of aliases in there
[09:38] <azureal> ardchoille, i know how to create aliases
[09:38] <ardchoille> azureal: Ok :)
[09:39] <guest1> Anyone?? libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6.so.3.11 cannot open shared object :: during breezy->dapper
[09:39] <bruenig> Ayabara, Yeah they are saved in ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/profiles/username/Application Data
[09:39] <veritos> Ayabara: I think so, Wine stores your registry in .wine/*.dat and your C drive (by default) in .wine/drive_c
[09:39] <azureal> it was funny though...  ls -l  vol    produced vol -> /usr/bin/tkmixer -r
[09:39] <celia> I've unable to compile skencil in dapper, even though i have python2.4 and tcl/tk8.2
[09:39] <azureal> so i almost got it to work, lol
[09:39] <keh7d> hey ive installed my driver but i am still stuck at 1074 resolution... is there a way to up it?
[09:39] <veritos> celia: what error?
[09:40] <ardchoille> !info skencil
[09:40] <ubotu> Package skencil does not exist in dapper
[09:40] <gibsonsg> how can i get yahoo messenger for linux?
[09:40] <veritos> ubotu: sound's like they're installing
[09:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about sound's like they're installing - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:40] <guest1> gibsonsg, use Gaim
[09:40] <celia> veritos: problems with some scripts in pax folder /from skencil)
[09:40] <gibsonsg> but i want something that supports video
[09:40] <veritos> hmm...
[09:40] <Boj> I have just reconfigured my xserver, will i need to reboot in order for the affects to take place?
[09:40] <Celarnor> gibsonsg, Just use GAIM.  It has support inside.
[09:40] <ardchoille> veritos: ubotu is a bot
[09:40] <gibsonsg> i already have gaim
[09:40] <MightyBall> anyone know why gnome isn't saving my mouse acceleration settings? its stuck on dead slow :P
[09:40] <gnomefreak> Boj: just restartx
[09:40] <Ayabara> bruenig, veritos: ok and thanks again. If it's less work to go with the standalone version of utorrent I'll try that
[09:40] <gibsonsg> gaim doesnt support video
[09:41] <guest1> gibsonsg, get the latest gaim then
[09:41] <celia> veritos: is there some backport for skencil in dapper?
[09:41] <Intangir> the latest gaim supports video?
[09:41] <gnomefreak> Boj: ctrl+alt+backspace
[09:41] <gibsonsg> i dont think gaim supoprts video
[09:41] <Rakshan> gibsonsg, there is debian pkg of yahoo available
[09:41] <Boj> Thankyou :)
[09:41] <veritos> celia: i don't know, i just am guessing
[09:41] <gnomefreak> gibsonsg: no gaim does not support video yet
[09:41] <gibsonsg> how do i dl the debian? i know how to use synaptic...
[09:41] <Intangir> gibsonsg: do you play guitar?
[09:41] <celia> veritos: oh! have you compiled skencil in dapper?
[09:42] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: "yet" ?  Do you know something we don't?
[09:42] <gibsonsg> mhm
[09:42] <frafra> I have tried to cancel the disc the 1 raid not part. it seems that the grub it comes only installed on a single device of the metadevice: (
[09:42] <veritos> celia: i was thinking it might have been a library issue, in that case you might need to install the lib*-dev
[09:42] <fyrestrtr> gibsonsg: do *not* install debian packages in ubuntu.
[09:42] <bruenig> AMSN supports video I think
[09:42] <veritos> celia: no
[09:42] <terryb> I have installed network manager but there is no interface for me to configure wireless network card.  there is a nm-applet process running, just no interface. can anyone help.  cheers
[09:42] <gibsonsg> haha
[09:42] <FantasticFoo> hmm
[09:42] <bruenig> !info AMSN
[09:42] <ubotu> Package AMSN does not exist in dapper
[09:42] <Renan_s2> !edgy
[09:42] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[09:42] <celia> veritos: all lib*-devs I have already installed
[09:42] <Rakshan> gibsonsg, google for yahoo+deb
[09:42] <gnomefreak> ardchoille: gaim-vv last i heard was in devvel very slow devel but in it
[09:42] <bruenig> !info amsn
[09:42] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.95-1 (dapper), package size 2233 kB, installed size 7852 kB
[09:42] <gibsonsg> fyrestrtr how do i get yahoo with the debian
[09:42] <ardchoille> !info amsn
[09:42] <gibsonsg> im not familiar with debian
[09:42] <gibsonsg> i found the deb mirror
[09:42] <Intangir> terryb: what wireless card do you have?
[09:42] <fyrestrtr> gibsonsg: this is not debian, this is ubuntu. Are you on ubuntu or debian?
[09:42] <gibsonsg> oh right
[09:42] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: Interesting, thank you
[09:43] <gibsonsg> i cant use it, then
[09:43] <FantasticFoo> i've installed all the packages necessary according to the link you sent me, fyrestrtr, but firefox can't seem to play .wmv files
[09:43] <keh7d> !ati
[09:43] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:43] <gibsonsg> ubuntu
[09:43] <Celarnor> Gibsonsg: Run sudo apt-get install packagename
[09:43] <Renan_s2> Ubuntu is based on Debian, so .deb packages should work.
[09:43] <gibsonsg> well thats pretty weak
[09:43] <Intangir> gibsonsg: you can use debian packags on ubuntu
[09:43] <gibsonsg> oh right on
[09:43] <azureal> gnomefreak: how's gnome treating you?
[09:43] <ardchoille> bruenig: amsn is in universe
[09:43] <FantasticFoo> it seems to find the correct plugin, but the play button doesn't "work"
[09:43] <gibsonsg> how do i find the package name?
[09:43] <Intangir> i think you just add debian repositories to your sources.list
[09:43] <Intangir> and update
[09:43] <anolis> gahh, it didnt work...
[09:43] <bruenig> i know, ubotu said that
[09:43] <Intangir> and .. install
[09:43] <Intangir> but im not sure, ive never done it
[09:43] <terryb> ipw2200.  the card works, but I want to get wap working
[09:43] <MarkusderKiller> hi ev'rybody
[09:43] <frafra> hi MarkusderKiller ,:D
[09:44] <fyrestrtr> FantasticFoo: did you install firefox plugins and restart firefox?
[09:44] <Ayabara> bruenig: can I make firefox use utorrent under wine as the default handler for torrent-files?
[09:44] <MarkusderKiller> hi fyrestrtr
[09:44] <Celarnor> terryb: What's your problem?
[09:44] <Renan_s2> don't do that (mix Debian and Ubuntu repos) unless you're 100% sure you know what you're doing
[09:44] <MarkusderKiller> could u help my friend?
[09:44] <mheath> I'm experencing a weird problme with the Broadcom Wireless firmware cutter. Despite the fact that I'm attempting to cut drivers that were perfectly valid before, and that are contained in the actual bcm-fwcutter README, its complaining that it doesn't knoow how to cut these files.
[09:44] <fyrestrtr> gibsonsg: use gaim, as the linux version of messenger does not support video.
[09:44] <cica> hi guys :-)
[09:44] <Renan_s2> I've done it once. Didn't work well.
[09:44] <gnomefreak> azureal: dont know havent seen gnome in a few days
[09:44] <MarkusderKiller> hi cica
[09:44] <FantasticFoo> maybe that's why they're called "*windows* movies", not "linux movies"
[09:44] <FantasticFoo> oh well
[09:44] <anolis> fyrestrtr: what should i do now
[09:44] <azureal> gnomefreak, what are you currently using then?
[09:44] <fyrestrtr> anolis: ??
[09:44] <guest1> gibsonsg, http://gaim-vv.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html
[09:44] <FantasticFoo> at least quicktime works
[09:45] <terryb> celarnor: I installed network-manager but I can't get the interface to load so I can try and configure wpa security
[09:45] <Intangir> gibsonsg: unfortunately sometimes you hae to make some sacrifices when moving to linux ;(
[09:45] <gnomefreak> kde atm
[09:45] <azureal> ah...
[09:45] <bruenig> Ayabara, I had that going on my old install before I hosed it and went fresh, I haven't been able to replicate that in my new install. I am going to try again tonight or whenever I have time. I don't know how I did it the first time. I think I probably lucked into it.
[09:45] <cica> can anyone advise how to update/upgrade my Ubuntu box (totally new to this). Know it's apt-get or something similar...
[09:45] <anolis> well i applied the changes ctrl+alt+bckspaced
[09:45] <MarkusderKiller> fyrestrtr: could i ask u a lil question about raid and grub??
[09:45] <Intangir> gibsonsg: gaim isnt quite as feature rich as the 'official' clients
[09:45] <fyrestrtr> cica: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:45] <Celarnor> terryb: Well, for one thing, you need wpa_supplicant, because there's no native WPA support.
[09:45] <anolis> tried changing the resolution, and it didnt even show up in the list...
[09:45] <fyrestrtr> MarkusderKiller: don't know anything about raid :)
[09:45] <azureal> you see, gnomefreak , i've just kinda been annoyed with gnome lately... so i'm about to remove it
[09:45] <frafra> :)
[09:45] <MarkusderKiller> oh :( bad news
[09:45] <Intangir> cica: upgrade from what to what?
[09:45] <Ayabara> !opera
[09:45] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[09:45] <fyrestrtr> anolis: did you restart X?
[09:46] <MarkusderKiller> do u no someone who knows about it?
[09:46] <cica> Intangir: to the latest kernel
[09:46] <Intangir> cica: dont do any major upgrades from breezy to dapper or anything with those commands
[09:46] <Intangir> cica: but if you already have dapper it should be ok
[09:46] <fyrestrtr> MarkusderKiller: no, but hang around and try your luck.
[09:46] <anolis> isn't that what ctrl+alt+backspace does?
[09:46] <engla> I was wondering. Is there a way for me to share my internetconnection in ubunut? I have network via ethernet, and want to share to others via wifi
[09:46] <MarkusderKiller> thnx a lor fyrestrtr :)
[09:46] <cica> Intangir: I have Ubuntu 5.10
[09:46] <Intangir> cica: then you should check the wiki
[09:46] <fyrestrtr> anolis: pastebin your xorg.conf
[09:46] <frafra> thanls fyrestrtr :)
[09:46] <guest1> who needs help?!!?
[09:46] <cica> Intangir: wikipedia you mean?
[09:46] <Celarnor> Why can't he just apt-get dist-upgrade, Intangir?
[09:47] <bruenig> Ayabara, the easiest way to do it if you can't get it to recognize it, is to copy the url and then go into utorrent and go to file add torrent from url. But I run utorrent the entire time because I do rss broadcatching. So I can just switch to the workspace and copy and paste really quickly might not be the same for someone who would have to open it and then do all of that
[09:47] <Intangir> cica: there is an entry for how to upgrade to dapper properly, if yournot careful you will screw up your system
[09:47] <Intangir> cica: wiki.ubuntu.com
[09:47] <guest1> Intangir, yeah i just tried to use aptitude
[09:47] <fyrestrtr> !upgrade
[09:47] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[09:47] <guest1> Intangir, crapped it up
[09:47] <cica> Intangir: I appreciate that mate... I'll have a look :-)
[09:47] <Ayabara> bruenig: ok. I will give it a try. thanks again
[09:47] <guest1> the problem is i needed to do from the CLI
[09:47] <terryb> celarnor: according to this web site I don't need it for 6.06:    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[09:47] <Intangir> cica: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades
[09:48] <gibsonsg> whats my desktop under
[09:48] <gibsonsg> /home/desktop?
[09:48] <Renan_s2> ~/Desktop
[09:48] <cica> Intangir: nice! :-)
[09:48] <ardchoille> /home/user/Desktop
[09:48] <MarkusderKiller> fyrestrtr: do u no something about sql? i no that this is not the right chatroom perhaps u could no something :)
[09:48] <Renan_s2> where ~ = /home/<user name>
[09:49] <fyrestrtr> MarkusderKiller: that is something I do know about, but people in #sql are even better than me :)
[09:49] <MarkusderKiller> oh thnx 4 link ! :)
[09:50] <terryb> celarnor: and should there at least be an interface regardless of wpa_supplicant?
[09:50] <Celarnor> Terryb: Did you download network-manager or network-manager-gnome?
[09:51] <fyrestrtr> MarkusderKiller: if you do go there, don't ask something like 'hey, how do I install mysql?' they'll probably kick you out. For mysql, #mysql.
[09:51] <gibsonsg> how do i get the package xlibs with apt-get
[09:51] <Renan_s2> !info googleearth
[09:51] <ubotu> Package googleearth does not exist in dapper
[09:51] <EnsignRedshirt> Hmm... celia left.  I was just going to tell him/her to install tcl8.4-dev and tk8.4-dev.
[09:51] <Renan_s2> !googleearth
[09:51] <ubotu> Google Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. To download it see http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html
[09:51] <fyrestrtr> gibsonsg: sudo apt-get install xlibs-dev
[09:51] <gibsonsg> how do i use apt-get to get the xlibs package
[09:51] <gibsonsg> thanks
[09:51] <cica> Intangir: thats one big download! ;-)
[09:51] <NewtoUbuntu> Hey i sit possible to install Java on ubuntu?
[09:52] <fyrestrtr> gibsonsg: next time, use the search feature (apt-cache search whatchalookinfor)
[09:52] <NewtoUbuntu> is it*
[09:52] <ardchoille> !java
[09:52] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[09:52] <Intangir> cica: you updating now?
[09:53] <Celarnor> !lunch
[09:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about lunch - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:53] <NewtoUbuntu> im having troubles getting to the multiverse repository it wont let me look at it
[09:53] <fyrestrtr> look at it?
[09:53] <NewtoUbuntu> sec ill tell u what it says
[09:53] <naa> !test
[09:53] <ubotu> Failed.
[09:53] <naa> !fail
[09:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about fail - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:53] <naa> !english
[09:53] <mheath> What package contains md5sum ?
[09:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about english - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:54] <Intangir> !dee de deee
[09:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about dee de deee - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:54] <naa> hmm
[09:54] <naa> !reh rogh
[09:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about reh rogh - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:54] <fyrestrtr> !msgthebot
[09:54] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[09:54] <Intangir> !chuck norris
[09:54] <shawnr_> is there a program that allows me to actually "view" an xml file.. not the code? im trying to work on a gdm theme and having to constantly repackage reinstall log out just to view it is a pain
[09:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about chuck norris - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:54] <Celarnor> Heh...
[09:54] <naa> ! wikislow!!!
[09:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about wikislow!!! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:54] <cica> Intangir: no... downloading image from: http://ftp.ticklers.org/releases.ubuntu.org/releases/6.06/.
[09:54] <ardchoille> naa: Please stop
[09:54] <naa> ok
[09:54] <cica> Intangir: is this correct?
[09:54] <Intangir> that is one way
[09:54] <Intangir> you can install from CD
[09:55] <Intangir> but you dont have to redo all of that
[09:55] <keh7d> can i just add resolutions in xorg.conf? is there a better way?
[09:55] <fyrestrtr> shawnr_: you mean render it?
[09:55] <anolis> sorry for the wait fyrestrtr, wilco pastebinning now
[09:55] <terryb> celarnor: installed network-manager-gnome via commandline apt-get and when that didn't work I installed "network manager" from the add remove gui
[09:55] <Celarnor> terryb: Have you restarted yet?
[09:55] <cica> Intangir: which one should I download? Live Desktop CD or Alternative Installation CD ???
[09:55] <Intangir> neither really
[09:56] <Intangir> just follow that wiki's instructions how how to upgrade from breezy
[09:56] <Intangir> you change a file
[09:56] <Intangir> type a few commands
[09:56] <Intangir> hours later, your done ;)
[09:56] <cica> Intangir: ok I'll take a look again
[09:56] <Celarnor> Yeah.  All you have to do is change your repos and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade.
[09:56] <ardchoille> shawnr_: If you're talking abouyt the xml files in gdm themes, I don't know of an easy way to do that. If you do learn how, please let me know :)
[09:56] <bilss_> hi
[09:56] <cica> I heard about  repos before but not entirely sure what they are?
[09:57] <NewtoUbuntu> Any1 knwo how to Enable the universe component?
[09:57] <terryb> celarnor: sorry, I got disconnected.  I will repeat my last question
[09:57] <terryb>  celarnor: installed network-manager-gnome via commandline apt-get and when that didn't work I installed "network manager" from the add remove gui
[09:57] <nu_> Does anyone know how to set up shortcut keys for xmms? the gnome has a "keyboard shortcuts
[09:57] <fyrestrtr> shawnr_: you could run and embedded x session and just reload gdm there till you are satisfied.
[09:57] <nu_> but those dont work with xmms i guess
[09:57] <NewtoUbuntu> i know what it says on the website but im not sure how to edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:57] <fyrestrtr> !repositories > NewtoUbuntu
[09:57] <Celarnor> Cica: They're repositories of software, basically..
[09:57] <shawnr_> fyrestrtr, how would i go about doing that? sound like a pain?
[09:57] <NewtoUbuntu> whats !repositories mean?
[09:57] <bilss_> whats the tar command line to open and extract  a tar.gz file?
[09:57] <dou213> hey guys, if i install compiz with automatix, how can i uninstall it?
[09:57] <Jack_Sparrow>  !easysource
[09:57] <cica> Celarnor: ok I see... totally new to this guys. (but liking it :-) )
[09:57] <dou213> hey guys, if i install compiz with automatix, how can i uninstall it?
[09:57] <EnsignRedshirt> mheath: coreutils
[09:58] <Celarnor> terryb: Hmm.  It should appear by itself, it did for me.
[09:58] <dou213> sry 4 repeat
[09:58] <ardchoille> dou213: automatix is off topic for this channel
[09:58] <azureal> hi again; was wondering if it was possible to have one prompt color for xterm and another for aterm?
[09:58] <NewtoUbuntu> fyrestrtr whats !repositories mean?
[09:58] <fyrestrtr> shawnr_: not really. Easier than that is, to use xinit ;) but embedded X works better because its on the same screen as your current session.
[09:58] <mikolan> is there a webbrowser I can run without starting up X?
[09:58] <NewtoUbuntu> do i type that in somewhere?
[09:58] <fyrestrtr> !repositories
[09:58] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:58] <fyrestrtr> NewtoUbuntu: register your nick to recieve messages from the bot.
[09:58] <NewtoUbuntu> kk
[09:58] <shawnr_> fyrestrtr, just run xinit in a term?
[09:59] <GnarusLeo> !apache
[09:59] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:59] <shawnr_> fyrestrtr, just run xinit in a term?
[09:59] <fyrestrtr> shawnr_: no, you have to run it from a console (ctrl+alt+f1) it runs another instance of an X server. I use it to run games under X without xgl. easier than logging in and logging out.
[09:59] <shawnr_> k
[09:59] <shawnr_> thanks
[10:00] <ardchoille> fyrestrtr: nice trick
[10:00] <terryb> celarnor: the nm-applet is running as a process, there is just no interface.   out of interest I loaded up Knetworkmanager and that came up with an interface but obviously with errors
[10:00] <EnsignRedshirt> NewtoUbuntu: You can enable the repositories with Synaptic:  System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager
[10:00] <Spec> Does anyone know of a good guide that explains device major/minor numbers?
[10:00] <shawnr_> fyrestrtr, i get an error that says its already running
[10:00] <Celarnor> terryb: Hm.  I don't know.  That's...really weird.
[10:00] <keh7d> hey, should i add resolutions to xorg.conf? is that correct?
[10:01] <mikolan> I think I just destryoed my X-server, tried the xgl installation guide and now it just boots me out back to console after the nvidia logo
[10:01] <keh7d> that doesnt seem right....
[10:01] <NewtoUbuntu> when i type /etc/apt/sources.list in the terminal it says permission denied why?
[10:01] <GnarusLeo> keh7d, its correct
[10:01] <micahcowan> keh7d, so long as they're supported by your hardware. But make sure the order of resolutions is greatest to least.
[10:01] <ych> hey since you guys know everything that has to do with computers, where'd i leave my dvi-to-vga adapter?
[10:01] <hackz3r> mikolan, XGL is tricky
[10:01] <mikolan> yeah
[10:01] <stefg> keh7d: chances are you'll mess it up by a typo. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is a safer alternative
[10:01] <hackz3r> mikolan, read the error log though
[10:01] <mikolan> I could use a good console webbrowser to read the wiki if I did anything wrong
[10:02] <mikolan> I will
[10:02] <GnarusLeo> ych, check in the hallway by the telephone
[10:02] <anolis> pastebin is giving me hell
[10:02] <ych> ok leo
[10:02] <EnsignRedshirt> NewtoUbuntu: Why not use Synaptic?
[10:02] <keh7d> micahcowan, is there another way? shouldnt they be autodetected?
[10:02] <jessekenney> i have a quick question
[10:02] <stefg> !fixres > keh7d
[10:02] <GnarusLeo> ych, though it most likely is in a box or a closet somewhere :)
[10:02] <keh7d> !fixres
[10:02] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:02] <nu_> keh7d: didnt work?
[10:02] <fyrestrtr> shawnr_: hrmm, you need to pass it the display number, otherwise it will try to launch it on the current x session
[10:02] <micahcowan> keh7d, I think they typically are, when your xorg.conf is generated. That area's sort of voodoo to me, though.
[10:03] <jessekenney> when and if i run a linux distro like ubuntu, nad i come accross software that says its for linux. can i use it on any distro of linux?
[10:03] <micahcowan> jessekenney, typically, yes.
[10:03] <fyrestrtr> jessekenney: sure, but it may be difficult to run it on some than others.
[10:03] <jessekenney> reeally. how is ubuntu on this
[10:03] <ych> hmmm unfortunately its not there
[10:03] <NewtoUbuntu> When i go to enable to the Universe Repository it says could not donwload does any1 know why?
[10:03] <micahcowan> jessekenney, it's always best to use packages designed for your distro, though. But when you have source, there's almost always /some/ way to make it work
[10:04] <micahcowan> and usually even when you don't
[10:04] <keh7d> nu, i installed the driver, nothing changed except now the refresh rate is 85hz and there are no other options
[10:04] <ych> damn, real life really needs a search function
[10:04] <jessekenney> allright thanks people. out
[10:04] <mwe> Is it possible to adjust the general size of the desktop icons in gnome?
[10:04] <anolis> fyrestrtr: http://3463.pastebin.com/766648
[10:04] <stefg> jessekenney: no, unless you get hold of the sources and know how to build it on your particular system
[10:05] <EnsignRedshirt> NewtoUbuntu: "it says..."  What is "it"?  How did you enable the repository, by editing the file or with Synaptic?
[10:05] <stefg> !repos
[10:05] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:05] <mruiz> hi all
[10:06] <NewtoUbuntu> i enabled it by going to system and and software properties like the website says to
[10:06] <dou213> hey can some1 give me some help with automatix bleeder? nobody answers on #automatix
[10:06] <mruiz> I was trying dapper and I have discovered that unrar is not in any repository, is this true ?
[10:06] <fyrestrtr> NewtoUbuntu: did you hit refresh?
[10:06] <Tigerx> forzaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa romaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[10:06] <NewtoUbuntu> !easysource
[10:06] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:06] <fyrestrtr> anolis: that link doesn't work for me
[10:06] <NewtoUbuntu> refresh where?
[10:06] <anolis> hmm
[10:06] <anolis> k
[10:06] <fyrestrtr> in synaptic
[10:07] <Tigerx> ciao a tutti
[10:08] <ych> hmmm
[10:08] <ych> anyone here running dual monitors on a nV card?
[10:08] <ych> !dualview
[10:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about dualview - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:08] <fyrestrtr> at the office I am :)
[10:08] <stefg> !rar > mruiz
[10:08] <ych> on linux?
[10:08] <fyrestrtr> lol yes
[10:08] <ych> hmmm
[10:08] <stefg> !xinerama
[10:08] <ubotu> xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XineramaHowTo
[10:08] <Jack_Sparrow> dou213: Sorry, we advise against using #automatix
[10:08] <ych> do you have to reboot for both screens to be seen?
[10:08] <anolis> well pastebin isn't working
[10:09] <cica> Intangir: think I've got it upgrading now. Made a few changes to the following file /etc/apt/sources.list and went ahead with sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:09] <fyrestrtr> ych: you need to restart X, not reboot
[10:09] <ych> thanks stefg
[10:09] <ych> ok
[10:09] <ych> thanks fyre
[10:09] <zool2005> hi all, i've got a bit of a strange problem. I have created a new user but the new user's home folder is accessible by other users. This isn't normal, is it?
[10:09] <Tigerx> ciao a tuti
[10:09] <ych> how do i restart x anyway? last time i did that was 5 years ago
[10:09] <Tigerx> tutti*
[10:09] <ych> on my previous venture intolinux
[10:09] <fyrestrtr> ctrl+alt+backspace
[10:09] <anolis> how do i restart x fyrestrtr
[10:09] <EnsignRedshirt> NewtoUbuntu: I forgot that I am running breezy, and you are probably running dapper.  I don't know what neat features or tools were added for enabling the repos, so I probably can't help.
[10:09] <ych> when i was 12 lol
[10:10] <anolis> thats what i thought
[10:10] <fyrestrtr> anolis: cltr+alt+backspace
[10:10] <shawnr_> fyrestrtr, xinit 1
[10:10] <shawnr_> ?
[10:10] <anolis> can i just pm you this
[10:10] <anolis> or send the file to you
[10:10] <fyrestrtr> shachaf_: xinit something -- :1
[10:10] <micahcowan> anolis, ctrl+alt+backspace in gdm (after you've logged out)
[10:11] <NewtoUbuntu> Ok is there any1 using Dapper who can help me to enable the universe repository?
[10:11] <azureal> hmm... "xrdb -merge .Xdefaults && aterm &"   makes the whole thing run, but then stay in the background
[10:11] <Intangir> cica: cool ya thats the best way i think
[10:11] <Jack_Sparrow> NewtoUbuntu: sure
[10:12] <fyrestrtr> NewtoUbuntu: read the wiki, it explains it all there.
[10:12] <azureal> why doesnt just aterm stay in the background...
[10:12] <echOoo> Hi all.. who can help me with virtual hosts ?
[10:12] <EnsignRedshirt> NewtoUbuntu: It *should* just a click or two (plus typing your password at some point).
[10:12] <Jack_Sparrow> NewtoUbuntu: system-admin-synaptic
[10:12] <echOoo> in apache2
[10:12] <qwerty2k> !u=repos
[10:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about u=repos - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:12] <EnsignRedshirt> s/just/be just/
[10:12] <qwerty2k> !repos
[10:12] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:12] <stefg> NewtoUbuntu: if you used the software-properties chances are that they are already active
[10:12] <cica> Intangir: that good enough for me :-). Thanks...
[10:12] <fyrestrtr> echOoo: people in #apache
[10:12] <nu_> is there a module that shows my wireless signal's strength?
[10:13] <azureal> nu_: which desktop
[10:13] <echOoo> fyrestrtr: of course Ill try
[10:13] <NewtoUbuntu> well when i try to enable it liek u guys say then it says cannot download
[10:13] <nu_> azureal: ubuntu gnome
[10:13] <fyrestrtr> nu: double click on the network manager applet.
[10:13] <zool2005> should users' home folders be accessible by other users?
[10:13] <fyrestrtr> NewtoUbuntu: that might just mean the repos are down.
[10:13] <stefg> NewtoUbuntu: if you want to verify this, open a terminal, type 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list' and paste the output to pastebin to let me have a look
[10:13] <fyrestrtr> zool2005: normally, no.
[10:13] <sith_man> ahhhh
[10:13] <sith_man> so much typing
[10:13] <Intelligitimate> How do I make a copy of a DVD in Linux using Nautilus?
[10:13] <nu_> fyrestrtr: k
[10:14] <zool2005> fyrestrtr, I didn't think so. I can change the permissions manually but I shouldn't have to. Any ideas?
[10:14] <azureal> nu_: yea, i'm pretty sure there's just an applet that can be added to the panel if you right-click --> add
[10:14] <nu_> azureal: let me look. thanks
[10:14] <fyrestrtr> zool2005: any ideas about what?
[10:14] <fyrestrtr> zool2005: don't know what you are trying to solve.
[10:15] <nu_> azureal: thanks :D
[10:15] <azureal> np =)
[10:15] <nu_> totally noobed myself on this one
[10:15] <zool2005> fyrestrtr, I have created a new user and their home folder is accessible from other user accounts.
[10:15] <fyrestrtr> zool2005: that's how it should be.
[10:15] <zool2005> fyrestrtr, by default
[10:15] <sith_man> i have a problem with my keyboard when at the login screen of ubuntu 6.06
[10:16] <EnsignRedshirt> zool2005: That seems to be the default.  Lately, in these days of security consciousness, I starting to wonder why.
[10:16] <zool2005> fyrestrtr, you mean I have to manually change the permissions of ever user's home folder each time I create one
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> zool2005: you want users to be able to snoop into other user's folders?
[10:16] <knapper> Anyone here use enlightenment?
[10:16] <gibsonsg> is gyache good?
[10:16] <zool2005> fyrestrtr, no
[10:16] <mwe> knapper: sometimes
[10:17] <knapper> mwe, is it just me or is it very incomplete?
[10:17] <fyrestrtr> zool2005: then? I don't understand what you are trying to do. When you create a new user, a new group is created with the same name as the user. All files in the user's home directory are owned by that user name and group.
[10:17] <knapper> mwe, ie no tastbar, etc
[10:17] <mwe> knapper: it is
[10:17] <stefg> !enlightenment
[10:17] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[10:17] <anolis> fyrestrtr, try that link i gave you again, it took me 2 minutes to get there, just let it sit there. i think  theres something going on with pastebin, here it is again http://3463.pastebin.com/766648
[10:17] <fyrestrtr> anolis: use the ubuntu pastebin
[10:17] <sith_man> anyone know what would cause my keyboard to repeatedly type a letter att the login screen? its irritating because i cant login to ubuntu..:(
[10:17] <mwe> knapper: it's pre alfa, so
[10:18] <fyrestrtr> sith_man: messed up repeat rate?
[10:18] <nu_> my monitor makes my eye hurt. ugh
[10:18] <GnarusLeo> has there been any progress on the ATI driver supporting expanded desktop (multi view) yet?
[10:18] <stefg> sith_man: flaky connectors or strange bios-settings?
[10:18] <knapper> I'm using E16 I do believe
[10:18] <zool2005> fyrestrtr, I want each user's home folder to be accessible ONLY by the user whose account it is
[10:18] <ych> hmmmm
[10:18] <trappist> GnarusLeo: it supports it fine (to the extent that it does anything fine)
[10:18] <sith_man> idk, i type a key once and it lags up and shows thousands of the same letters
[10:18] <Jack_Sparrow> sith_man: are you on that keyboard now.. it may just have a stuck key..?
[10:18] <fyrestrtr> GnarusLeo: the binary one has that option in its control panel.
[10:18] <EnsignRedshirt> fyrestrtr: Is it true, that the default "other" bits of the files created by a user are "r-x"?
[10:18] <sith_man> im on it now
[10:18] <fyrestrtr> zool2005: that's how it is now.
[10:18] <nu_> fyrestrtr: do you know if nvidia does too?
[10:19] <trappist> zool2005: sudo chmod o-rwx /home/*
[10:19] <sith_man> im on windows right now and it works fine
[10:19] <GnarusLeo> fyrestrtr, oh, really .. so I can change it in gui?
[10:19] <ych> !xinerama
[10:19] <GnarusLeo> fyrestrtr, where can I get the binaries?
[10:19] <ubotu> xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XineramaHowTo
[10:19] <mwe> GnarusLeo: I think they still employ the same crappy linux coder
[10:19] <fyrestrtr> nu_: nividia's control panel doesn't but twinview is easy to set up.
[10:19] <Jack_Sparrow> sith_man: it isnt anything funky like usb keyboard or ?
[10:19] <boj> I have just reconfigured my Xserver, I was told to restart X by pressing CTRL +Alt + Backspace. That made everything go black and lock up. Now I cannot get Ubuntu to load?
[10:19] <fyrestrtr> GnarlyBob: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Video
[10:19] <finalbeta> Songbird, the new music player, can it run on ubuntu? http://publicsvn.songbirdnest.com/trac/wiki/Nightly_Builds for linux I only see a tar.gz file for fedora, can that run on ubuntu?
[10:19] <sith_man> nope, ps/2
[10:19] <nu_> fyrestrtr: how do i do twinview
[10:20] <qwerty2k> boj, what error message does X give you?
[10:20] <|thunder> boj, what did you do before ctrl-alt-bkspce?  modify xorg.conf ?
[10:20] <stefg> boj: how didi you reconfigure your xserver?
[10:20] <qwerty2k> he left :(
[10:20] <Jack_Sparrow> sith_man: sorry for the silly question
[10:20] <zool2005> fyrestrtr, that's how it is now refers to which? accessible or inaccessible to other users?
[10:20] <fyrestrtr> nu_: just a sec.
[10:20] <nu_> ok
[10:20] <qwerty2k> boj, what error message does X give you?
[10:20] <fyrestrtr> zool2005: man, are you even reading what I am posting. As of right now, they are NOT accessible.
[10:21] <|thunder> boj, prolly have to undo the changes you made to xorg.conf. try ctrl-alt-F1 -F6 to get a terminal
[10:21] <boj> none, I just get all the loading blah [ok]  list. Then the screen goes black and I can't do anything but reset.
[10:21] <sith_man> jack_sparrow: no worries, its jsut irritating that i cant get on ubuntu....
[10:21] <zool2005> fyrestrtr, I agree, they *shouldn't * be but they are accessible by default on my system
[10:21] <NewtoUbuntu> !easysource
[10:21] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:21] <fyrestrtr> zool2005: how are you creating users?
[10:22] <zool2005> fyrestrtr, from the users&groups option in the admin menu
[10:22] <sith_man> IRC is so confusing
[10:22] <stefg> boj: what was the last thing you were doing before the problem appeared?
[10:22] <Jack_Sparrow> sith_man: Can you think of anything youwere doing or upgraded that might have caused it
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> zool2005: what can other users do? just ls?
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> nu_: I can show you how to setup twinview if you want.
[10:22] <Admiratius> Hello
[10:22] <cry0gen> sith_man: how is it confusing?
[10:22] <gunnar> Hello, I am haveing problems with my ogg files skipping.  I ripped them with soundjucier.  I tried other players ogg123, xmms, etc. none of them work any better.  The cd's are in very good shape and play on my cdplayer.  Any ideas?
[10:22] <nu_> fyrestrtr: that would be greatly appreciated. the problem is, in installed my nvidia driver but i cant even use the other monitor
[10:22] <zool2005> fyrestrtr, I haven't changed any permissions from stock
[10:22] <boolka> How to install new icons in dapper?
[10:23] <nu_> fyrestrtr: help out the others first man lol. too many ppl talking to you
[10:23] <boj> I was reconfiguring xserver,Someone in this channel said restart X with ctrl alt + backspace, then black screen.
[10:23] <Jack_Sparrow> boolka: gnome-look.org
[10:23] <nu_> fyrestrtr: ill be here when youre ready
[10:23] <fyrestrtr> zool2005: I think stock allows other users to ls, but nothing beyond that.
[10:23] <Jack_Sparrow> boolka: drag and drop the tar onto the theme manager
[10:23] <qwerty2k> boj, why did you reconfigure it? did you just install new 3d drivers?
[10:23] <zool2005> fyrestrtr, I've just noticed that all users belong to the group of the new user. That's not normal surely
[10:23] <boolka> you mean the tar.gz?
[10:23] <fyrestrtr> nu_: okay, hook up the other monitor, make sure it works, and turn it on. I am going to assume that your primary monitor is on the left, secondary on the right.
[10:24] <Jack_Sparrow> boolka: yes
[10:24] <sith_man> jack_sparrow: i recently installed ubuntu from a cd i ordered from shipit. i installed it and then my internet would not work. i fixed that, so i downloaded the updates(121 out of 161!) and i restarted and it started messing up
[10:24] <fyrestrtr> zool2005: errm, it sure isn't. Something is very wrong there.
[10:24] <stefg> gunnar: either the rip was bad, or the playback isn't set up right. What CPU do you have?
[10:24] <EnsignRedshirt> fyrestrtr: Is that new in dapper?  I am the only user of my breezy system, and by default, files that I create have permissions o+rx.
[10:24] <nu_> fyrestrtr: that is exactly how it is setup. the other monitor is on but nothing on it. it's as if the driver didnt detect it
[10:24] <boj> No i was trying to get the resolution in 1024*768 as the current 1280 is hurting my eyes.
[10:24] <alienseer23> how do I view and manipulate microsoft works database files in ubuntu?
[10:24] <boolka> Jack_Sparrow:  awesome it worked :D thanks
[10:24] <Jack_Sparrow> sith_man: so you manually stopped the updates or the repos went down or it crashed.?
[10:24] <zool2005> fyrestrtr, yup. I'm assuming that is why all users can access each others' home folders
[10:25] <Jack_Sparrow> boolka: np
[10:25] <alienseer23> !wdb
[10:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about wdb - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:25] <fyrestrtr> nu_: okay, good. Now open up a terminal, and open up /etc/X11/xorg.conf for editing.
[10:25] <gunnar> 3.8 Gig Pentium 4 w/ HT
[10:25] <qwerty2k> boj, you could have done that via gnome system->preferences->resolution
[10:25] <mwe> alienseer23: can openoffice handle them?
[10:25] <qwerty2k> boj, did you edit your x config?
[10:25] <fyrestrtr> zool2005: hrmm ... I will have to investigate that, its not that way on my box.
[10:25] <alienseer23> mwe, if it can, I can't figgure out how
[10:25] <boolka> Jack_Sparrow:  How about changing the color of the font on the toolbars
[10:25] <fyrestrtr> nu_: got it?
[10:25] <finalbeta> damned, check out songbird, finally a music player looking it : http://www.songbirdnest.com/features
[10:25] <nu_> fyrestrtr: getting there
[10:26] <alienseer23> it's not listed in the filter list when I try to open it, and any filter I try to use fails
[10:26] <nu_> fyrestrtr: got it
[10:26] <mwe> alienseer23: then it probably can't. I think it should know what to do when you open the file if it did
[10:26] <boj> Yeah I had tried that but every time I changed it, it would go to the login screen and still be in the previous res. No haven't touched the xconifg
[10:26] <zool2005> fyrestrtr, my normal user name belongs to the root group.....!
[10:26] <Jack_Sparrow> boolka: not sure if you can but my first GUESS would be in a term and type gconf-editor
[10:26] <fyrestrtr> zool2005: are you using ubuntu dapper drake?
[10:26] <stefg> gunnar: that should be powerful enough :-) Hmm. maybe you should read the alsa / Dmix howto... type !sound to get a link
[10:27] <zool2005> fyrestrtr, yup
[10:27] <sith_man>  jack_sparrow: i recently installed ubuntu from a cd i ordered from shipit. i installed it and then my internet would not work. i fixed that, so i downloaded the updates(121 out of 161!) and i restarted and it started messing up. i type a letter and it just repeats and lags my computer
[10:27] <gunnar> Thanks
[10:27] <mwe> alienseer23: works database. is it compatible with access?
[10:27] <gunnar> !sound
[10:27] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[10:27] <Jack_Sparrow> sith_man: so you manually stopped the updates or the repos went down or it crashed.?
[10:27] <fyrestrtr> zool2005: something is wrong with your box, there should be NO user belonging to the root group, unless you did something funky by yourself.
[10:27] <zool2005> fyrestrtr, what about sudo?
[10:27] <alienseer23> mwe, I don't think so, maybe?
[10:28] <fyrestrtr> nu_: okay, now scroll down to where it says DefaultDepth 24
[10:28] <sith_man> jack_sparrow: the updated completed, i only chose to download 121 out of 161 because i felt i didnte need all of them
[10:28] <mwe> alienseer23: because I think oo.org handles access files or at least some of them
[10:28] <fyrestrtr> zool2005: what about it?
[10:28] <alienseer23> yes, it can
[10:28] <fyrestrtr> zool2005: if you are in sudo shell, then maybe.
[10:28] <nu_> fyrestrtr: got it
[10:28] <J_P> ubuntu don't has python psycopg2 package ?
[10:28] <zool2005> fyrestrtr, should users belong to it by default?
[10:29] <w000t> hi, everytime i watch a movie in totem-gstreamer my screen gets turned off after a few minutes, when i move my mouse it gets back on, this keeps happening all the time. kinda strange because screensaver and energy saving options are all disabled
[10:29] <Jack_Sparrow> sith_man: there may have been sommthing in that list of 40 files you deselected...
[10:29] <fyrestrtr> zool2005: hell no lol
[10:29] <mwe> alienseer23: well I'm not sure I can be of much help with it
[10:29] <dmitri> i am installing ubuntu server for the first time and have messed up many settings. is there a way to reset all settings, without re-installing the whole thang?
[10:29] <sith_man> :|
[10:29] <Jack_Sparrow> sith_man: maybe someone can take you to a term and do a manual apt-get update
[10:29] <alienseer23> :(
[10:30] <Jack_Sparrow> sith_man: that is about all I can think of..
[10:30] <sith_man> jack_sparrow: huh? im still new to the lingo of linux, i know apt-get is used to download things
[10:30] <fyrestrtr> nu_: okay, type this under it Option "CoolBits" "1"
[10:30] <J_P> anyone know if ubuntu dappper  don't has python psycopg2 package ?
[10:30] <zool2005> fyrestrtr, actually I think I made a mistake, I was looking at the RHS of the group settings, there are no users in *any* of the groups
[10:30] <ych> whats the command to open a file in the text editor?
[10:30] <anolis> fyrestrtr when you get a chance, think you can try helping me again?
[10:30] <Jack_Sparrow> w000t: Are there any bios hardware settings you may have overlooked?
[10:30] <sith_man> jack_sparrow: all i know is that my keyboard worked before the updates and it works on windows.
[10:31] <porcho> has anybody sucessfully installed DB2 Express-C under Breezy?
[10:31] <Jack_Sparrow> sith_man: maybe someone can take you to a term and do a manual apt-get update
[10:31] <EnsignRedshirt> ych: gedit file &
[10:31] <ych> thnkx
[10:31] <w000t> well it doesn't happen when I use mplayer
[10:31] <nu_> fyrestrtr: without the quotation marks right?
[10:31] <fyrestrtr> nu_: then each one of these lines, on its own separate line: Option "TwinView" "True" / Option "TwinViewOrientation" "RightOf" / Option "UseEdidFreqs" "True"
[10:31] <w000t> so I don't think the problem is related to the bios
[10:31] <fyrestrtr> nu_: no, with quotes.
[10:31] <Jack_Sparrow> ah.. bits and pieces of the puzzle
[10:31] <nu_> ok
[10:32] <fyrestrtr> it should be .. literally Option "CoolBits" "1"
[10:32] <smacky> Mr.Sparrow my ubuntu desktop runs slow why ?
[10:32] <sith_man> Jack_sparrow: what does take you to a term mean? sorry for being so noobish
[10:32] <SgtMinor> I have a question about CUPS printing. I can't get pages to print in any size other than A4 since I installed Ubuntu 6.06. Worked fine in 5.10.
[10:32] <mcphail> zool2005: edit the /etc/adduser.conf file to your liking, then use adduser to create new users
[10:32] <fyrestrtr> nu_: then, add this line, replacing my resolution with whatever you have on your system Option "MetaModes" "1280x1024, 1280x1024"
[10:32] <Jack_Sparrow> sith_man: start up to a terminal prompt as in recovery mode...
[10:33] <victor__> Anybody had trouble updating 5.1 to 6.06?  It crashed my vmware clone. Had to start over again with new clone.
[10:33] <fyrestrtr> nu_: the left monitor's resolution comes first, then the right monitor, got it?
[10:33] <nu_> fyrestrtr: one second, still doing it
[10:33] <sith_man> jack_sparrow: also, of the 40 i deselected, most were for printing, but i dont have a printer....start in recovery mode
[10:33] <sith_man> ok
[10:33] <dmitri> i am installing ubuntu server for the first time and have messed up many settings. is there a way to reset all settings, without re-installing the whole thang?
[10:34] <Jack_Sparrow> sith_man: redo the update (in full)
[10:34] <coded1> anyone have experience with amd64 bit ?
[10:34] <sethk> dmitri, not that I know of, no
[10:34] <anolis> coded1: i do
[10:34] <porcho> I'm facing some problems running db2 express-c v9...whenever I try to run a gui admin tool, it yelds a "Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server" error...
[10:34] <stefg> dmitri: a reinstall is quicker :-)
[10:34] <cartur25> I'm trying to use QT Parted and it says, "no device found, maybe you're not using root user?"
[10:34] <Jack_Sparrow> dmitri: most of us make a compressed image of out basic and custom installation
[10:34] <coded1> is there a big difference in proformance / driver problems then 32bit mode?
[10:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !backup
[10:34] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[10:34] <dmitri> thanks!
[10:35] <sith_man> jack_sparrow: so i start in recovery mode with the terminal prompt, and what commands do i use to run the updates from terminal?
[10:35] <sethk> coded1, the performance difference is often zero and never really all that impressive
[10:35] <nu_> fyrestrtr: they all go under the "Screen" section yes?
[10:35] <fyrestrtr> yes
[10:35] <cartur25> !partition
[10:35] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[10:35] <anolis> i beg to differ
[10:35] <dmitri> even though its only the iptables and net interface which dont seem to function. can i reset them?
[10:35] <dou213> how can i check if my card has a free 3d driver?
[10:35] <nu_> and does it matter how much space there is between the paremeters?
[10:35] <fyrestrtr> nu_: there are two more lines you need.
[10:35] <anolis> it has definate performance advantages
[10:35] <mcphail> coded1: performance is better, but probably not enough to justify the extra problems
[10:35] <Jack_Sparrow> fyrestrtr: is it apt-get install update ?
[10:35] <stefg> !hardware
[10:35] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[10:35] <nu_> fyrestrtr: ok
[10:35] <fyrestrtr> nu_: no, but what is in quotes, remains in quotes.
[10:36] <nu_> fyrestrtr: got it
[10:36] <sethk> anolis, I think if you measure actual performance in real situations (rather than relying on theory) you'll find that there is little, if any, improvement
[10:36] <anolis> there arent that many problems, and the problems that there are will eventually be solved, as 32 bit will aventually be gone
[10:36] <nu_> fyrestrtr: btw, theres only one "Monitor" section. which lists this LCD. nothing about the other one
[10:36] <kitsuneofdoom> I am having a problem with my computer's (Synaptics) touchpad. The buttons are rediculously sensitive, and click if I so much as brush against them, and sometimes click for no reason at all. It's not tapping, I've already disabled it
[10:36] <zool2005> mcphail, ok, looking at adduser.conf. I'm assuming I have a problem with the DIR_MODE setting, the default is set to 0755.
[10:36] <Jack_Sparrow> sith_man: You may get to the terminal and find that even that is hosed up with multiple keystrokes
[10:36] <kitsuneofdoom> (Disabled tapping)
[10:36] <fyrestrtr> nu_: okay, now you only need two more lines. Option "SecondMonitorHorizSync" "24.0 - 80.0" and Option "SecondMonitorVertRefresh" "49.0 - 75.0" (obviously, change these to whatever is appropriate for your system)
[10:36] <bnD> can anyone help me out ? i have a vfat partition that is defined as rw in fstab, but is not letting me write, and shows up as ro in /proc/mounts/ :(
[10:37] <mcphail> anolis: there is no pressure for 32bit systems to die
[10:37] <fyrestrtr> nu_: I know :)
[10:37] <sethk> kitsuneofdoom, I've seen that when the wrong driver was used by X for the mouse.
[10:37] <anolis> i have found , in my situations cause i work the hell out of my computer all the time that if i only had one proccessor i would have a frozen machine all the time
[10:37] <sith_man> jack_sparrow::| that would suck...what would i do then?
[10:37] <mcphail> zool2005: yup. However, I don't know if the GNOME gui uses that file. You could try changing it then use the gui to see.
[10:37] <Jack_Sparrow> bnD: I use the diskmpounter script myself
[10:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !diskmounter
[10:37] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[10:38] <Jack_Sparrow> sith_man: reinstall would seem the only option at that point
[10:38] <sethk> bnD, you have to use the UID and GID options with mount
[10:38] <mcphail> zool2005: if it doesn't, "adduser" is a convenient way to create new users from the command line
[10:38] <sith_man> wow....
[10:38] <stefg> bnD: you have a high probability of bad sectors on that drive. check dmesg | grep panic to find out wht the kernel thinks
[10:38] <anolis> there is no pressure, but there is more developement in the area of 64bit technolofgies than in the area of 32bit
[10:38] <nu_> fyrestrtr: im not sure what my secondary monitor's rates are lol
[10:38] <sethk> bnD, without UID and GID, it is mounted so that only root can write to it.
[10:38] <anolis> i will say no more on the issue
[10:38] <nu_> and i know i can fry it if i give it the wrong horizontal/vertical rates
[10:38] <fyrestrtr> nu_: look them up :)
[10:38] <bnD> sethk, i tried as root, and ive set uid and gid :)
[10:38] <ych> is it possible to have 2 different resolutions on each monitor?
[10:38] <Flannel> nu_: google for them
[10:38] <sith_man> i've had it for two days and the install took forever...oh, well, i havent put really anything on it yet
[10:39] <mcphail> anolis: fair enough,as we have drifted offtopic
[10:39] <sethk> bnD, you can't write to it as root?  Does mount show it mounted rw, or ro?
[10:39] <^TROUBLE^> anyone here ever used or know how to use slapt-get?
[10:39] <nu_> I have a program under windoze that does it
[10:39] <nu_> fyrestrtr: is this all?
[10:39] <bnD> sethk, it shows up as ro, tho its set to rw in fstab
[10:39] <fyrestrtr> nu_: yes, save the file, and restart X -- and bask in the LCD glow of dual screen.
[10:39] <sethk> bnD, anything in fstab can be overridden with the mount command
[10:39] <sith_man> i shall try the recovery mode and type apt-get install update ...if my keybobard is screwd up there, i shall reinstall..thank you jack
[10:39] <cartur25> I get "no device found, maybe you're not using root user?" when opening QTParted - anyone know how to fix that?
[10:39] <sethk> bnD, try umounting it, then mount it again giving all the options on the command line instead of relying on fstab
[10:39] <ych> anyone have a tv attached as second display device?
[10:40] <^TROUBLE^> anyone
[10:40] <meheren> Im having some probs with gtkguitune... it does'nt ever "hear" anything
[10:40] <fyrestrtr> cartur25: gksudo gparted
[10:40] <bnD> sethk, that did the trick, any ideas of how to prevent it from happening again?
[10:40] <nu_> fyrestrtr: i have to log into windoze to get my monitors vertical/horizontal rates. can i just put a # next to the option lines?
[10:40] <anolis> coded1 if you have the money to spend go for it, you will have a few problems and incompatibilities, but they will in time be resolved, but there will probably be support for 32bit systems for the next 10+ years
[10:40] <kitsuneofdoom> sethk: It's a touchpad. The mouse I got from HP broke (1 BLEEDING MONTH. ONE). It seems to be a synaptics touchpad
[10:40] <fyrestrtr> nu_: look it up on google.
[10:40] <ych> hmm
[10:40] <zool2005> mcphail, what's the command to delete a user?
[10:40] <mcphail> ^TROUBLE^: isn't slapt-get slackware?
[10:40] <nu_> fyrestrtr: im not sure of the model number
[10:40] <^TROUBLE^> yes
[10:40] <gunnar> As far as Dmix is concered I don't need it.  I have alsa 1.0.10 installed and the sound card has hardware mixing support (Audigy 2).  The thing that puzzels me is that I can listen to the radio with rhythmbox with no skips at all. Any ideas?
[10:40] <sethk> bnD, not offhand, depends on how it was mounted.
[10:40] <fyrestrtr> nu_: look at the back of the monitor?
[10:40] <meheren> the guitar is plugged into the mic in but it doesn't have a little menu option for mic
[10:40] <kitsuneofdoom> sethk: and it seems to be using that driver
[10:40] <sethk> bnD, I would wait and see if it comes up again.
[10:41] <bnD> sethk, alright, thanks for the help :)
[10:41] <nu_> fyrestrtr: too many wires, id rather log onto windoze and check lol
[10:41] <Jack_Sparrow> ^TROUBLE^: no one answered in #Mepis and no one seems to be answering here...  perhaps it is your tone.. or those long nights in Manitoba
[10:41] <sethk> kitsuneofdoom, there is more than one driver for synaptic touchpads.  they aren't all identical.
[10:41] <mcphail> zool2005: see "man deluser"
[10:41] <fyrestrtr> nu_: okay, do what you want, but stop calling it "windoze".
[10:41] <nu_> k
[10:41] <nu_> windowsssss
[10:41] <^TROUBLE^> possiblly
[10:42] <zool2005> mcphail, cheers. editing adduser.conf worked! Now I have two new users to delete!
[10:42] <mcphail> ^TROUBLE^: this is an ubuntu support channel
[10:42] <nu_> I'll be back and let the results be known
[10:42] <kitsuneofdoom> sethk: thanks for the information, do you happen to know any way I can tell what to do?
[10:42] <Jack_Sparrow> ^TROUBLE^: Are you running #Mepis or Ubuntu
[10:42] <cartur25> fyrestrtr: thanks a ton
[10:42] <hackz3r> Would people pay for like $5 per incident Ubuntu phone support?
[10:42] <Fletcher> hi there in the Worls
[10:42] <fyrestrtr> cartur25: yw
[10:42] <sethk> kitsuneofdoom, you can change the driver it uses by modifying xorg.conf.  The question, of course, is which driver(s) to try.  Try a web search, see if anything interesting comes up.
[10:42] <^TROUBLE^> none of the above running slackware 10.2
[10:42] <fyrestrtr> hackz3r: companies would.
[10:42] <knapper> How do I make a panel so that windows cover over it
[10:43] <kitsuneofdoom> sethk: Thank you very much
[10:43] <gibsonsg> how do i upgrade to dapper with the terminal
[10:43] <kitsuneofdoom> knapper: KDE or GNOME
[10:43] <knapper> Sorry, gnome.
[10:43] <fyrestrtr> !upgrade > gibsonsg
[10:43] <knapper> This is #ubuntu right? :P
[10:43] <stefg> !update
[10:43] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[10:43] <^TROUBLE^> sometimes in other chans ppl know slack also kinda what i had hoped
[10:43] <kitsuneofdoom> knapper: Ubuntu is pretty much the same as Kubuntu. In fact, I have both on my machine now
[10:43] <fyrestrtr> ^TROUBLE^: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic if its not related to ubuntu.
[10:43] <hackz3r> Has anyone here ever used the Canonical Ubuntu support?
[10:44] <Fletcher> I love MEPIS
[10:44] <^TROUBLE^> ok
[10:44] <Jack_Sparrow> knapper: Yes Ubuntu, but you would not believe the number of people we get from other distros because we actually try to help people
[10:44] <ic56> !19
[10:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about 19 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:44] <knapper> Understood
[10:44] <kitsuneofdoom> Jack_Sparrow: I think she's talking about Ubuntu vs. Kubuntu, which isn
[10:44] <kitsuneofdoom> Jack_Sparrow: isn't a different distro
[10:44] <Jack_Sparrow> knapper: That said how may we help you
[10:44] <knapper> So I'm trying to make a little side (horizontal) panel, but I want windows to cover over top of it
[10:44] <Fletcher> Who knows the  distro MEPIS?
[10:44] <hackz3r> No one has ever used the Canonical Ubuntu support??!?!
[10:45] <knapper> I looked in gconf-editor
[10:45] <kitsuneofdoom> Fletcher: this is #UBUNTU!!!
[10:45] <knapper> Can't find any such setting
[10:45] <Jack_Sparrow> kitsuneofdoom: Ubuntu and Kubuntu are differtent...
[10:45] <kitsuneofdoom> Jack_Sparrow: not really
[10:45] <knapper> Jack_Sparrow this is what I'm trying to accomplish: http://www.imageviper.com/displayimage.php?id=24951&name=Howto-Trans-panels.jpg
[10:45] <solsTiCe> if i just normally upgrade my dapper i will get 6.06.1 ??
[10:45] <Fletcher> does it mean that MEPIS have no chance?
[10:45] <SgtMinor> Sorry if anyone answered my question about CUPS but I was disconnected. I am unable to print in any size paper other than A4. I am currently running 6.06 and had no issues with 5.10.
[10:46] <cartur25> I get: Error: File system was not cleanly unmounted!  You should run e2fsck.  Modifying an unclean file system could cause severe corruption. - How do I run e2fsck?
[10:46] <Jack_Sparrow> knapper: cool had not seen that one before..
[10:46] <hackz3r> cartur25, Gnome Terminal
[10:46] <hackz3r> carthik, then type c2fsck /dev/hdaX
[10:46] <sethk> cartur25, depends whether it's the root file system or another file system
[10:46] <hackz3r> where X is your partition
[10:47] <mikolan> is ubuntuforums.org down? :<
[10:47] <cartur25> What will that program do?
[10:47] <cartur25> I'm just trying to partition my disk so I can load xp on the other partition
[10:47] <Spec> mikolan: timing out for me it seems
[10:47] <stefg> fsck is file system consistency check... does what it says on the box
[10:47] <hackz3r> mikolan, maybe
[10:48] <hackz3r> mikolan, not the server but the backend db
[10:48] <mikolan> ok more info than I needed :)
[10:48] <mikolan> but thanks anyway
[10:48] <hackz3r> mikolan, see how it is slow?
[10:48] <Jack_Sparrow> cartur25: where were youplanning on installing xp?
[10:48] <Spec> mikolan: works now
[10:48] <mikolan> it was slow, now it isnt responding at all for me
[10:48] <knapper> Jack_Sparrow: So, do you know of any way of setting it to allow windows to cover it? By default it is 'Always on Top'
[10:48] <hackz3r> Spec, yup
[10:48] <cartur25> WARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause
[10:48] <cartur25> SEVERE filesystem damage.
[10:48] <Spec> yes
[10:48] <Spec> it can
[10:49] <hackz3r> cartur25, do it from a boot disc
[10:49] <Spec> that's why you don't run it on a mounted filesystem
[10:49] <Jack_Sparrow> knapper: no, but it is cute
[10:49] <cartur25> Then why would I want to run it?
[10:49] <mcphail> cartur25: use tune2fs then reboot
[10:49] <sethk> cartur25, yes.  go back to my original answer;  depends on whether it is the root file system or another file system
[10:49] <gimmulf> Hi, how do i get flash working in firefox?
[10:49] <Spec> !flash
[10:49] <sethk> cartur25, if it is the root file system, use the flag with shutdown that says "do fsck on the next boot"
[10:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:49] <sethk> cartur25, otherwise, umount it before doing the fsck
[10:49] <crocz> flashplugin-nonfree
[10:49] <stefg> cartur25: boot in recovery mode. if you're lucky the check will be automatic
[10:49] <sethk> cartur25, very likely it's the root file system.
[10:50] <sethk> cartur25, the shutdown flag is -F
[10:50] <gimmulf> !flash
[10:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:50] <mcphail> cartur25: if it is a large partition, go get a cup of tea while it runs :)
[10:50] <crocz> gimmulf, flashplugin-nonfree
[10:51] <stefg> that's why journalled filesystems were invented
[10:51] <cartur25> If I run  tune2fs and then reboot will it run fsck?
[10:51] <stefg> no
[10:51] <sethk> cartur25, no
[10:51] <sethk> cartur25, use the -F flag on shutdown
[10:51] <gunnar> Once more,
[10:51] <gunnar> As far as Dmix is concered I don't need it.  I have alsa 1.0.10 installed and the sound card has hardware mixing support (Audigy 2).  The thing that puzzels me is that I can listen to the radio with rhythmbox with no skips at all. Any ideas?
[10:52] <cartur25> so reboot -F ?
[10:52] <mcphail> cartur25: yes, you can use tune2fs, but the other suggestion sounds easier
[10:52] <cartur25> the -f suggestion?
[10:52] <mcphail> yup
[10:52] <sethk> cartur25, -F.  -f is a different flag
[10:52] <carrus85> hmm... is it worth my time to "upgrade" from 6.06 to 6.06.1?
[10:52] <cartur25> k so I just type "reboot -F" ? then what will happen
[10:52] <sethk> cartur25, shutdown -F
[10:53] <mopflite> carrus85: keeping dapper updated does that automagically
[10:53] <sethk> cartur25, you seem to be resistent to that command.  :)
[10:53] <carrus85> (is there any reason to?  The changes I've read so far are all to the livecd side...)
[10:53] <stefg> gunnar: the esound daemon tends to be troublesome.. check the output modules of your players if they use alsa directly, (not using esd) /applies to ubuntu only, not kubuntu/
[10:53] <carrus85> mopflite, ah, so the automatic updating tool should just do it automagically... sweet
[10:53] <Daishi> ok so i just installed ubuntu on a laptop and it is doing this weird 61Hz refresh rate so i did a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but its still running at 61 according to the screen resolution changer in gnome
[10:53] <cartur25> No I just want to know what will happen after I run it so I know what to expect.
[10:53] <Daishi> and it has only 61Hz as an option
[10:53] <skmidry> My ADSL connection's DNS lookups blow up after about 4 hours of heavy downloading
[10:54] <ProN00b> does ubuntu have some central way to choose whats the systems main video player ?
[10:54] <fyrestrtr> Daishi: that's normal for LCD displays
[10:54] <mcphail> cartur25: when your system reboots you will watch a white line grow accross your screen for a while
[10:54] <Daishi> it is?
[10:54] <cartur25> ok cool
[10:54] <Daishi> is there any way to fix it? because i get this annoying line across the screen thing
[10:54] <Daishi> every once in a while
[10:54] <Daishi> its real fast and stuff
[10:54] <cartur25> so is it sudo shutdown -r -F or shutdown -F ?
[10:54] <skmidry> I didn't have this problem with hoary, only happens with dapper
[10:54] <Daishi> shutdown -r now ?
[10:55] <sethk> cartur25, either, actually.  The -r will make it reboot
[10:55] <fyrestrtr> Daishi: you could manually enter the refresh rates if you know they are different for your screen. Look up the hardware specs on your laptop.
[10:55] <sethk> cartur25, shutdown -F -r now
[10:55] <sethk> cartur25, as root, of course
[10:55] <whoppix> hey all :) i have a little problem to make the nvidia driver work on my freshly installed ubuntu.. the xserver complains about that the kernel module (1.0.8762) dont match the xorg module (1.0.7174). i followed the manual and installed nvidia-kernel-common, nvidia-glx-legacy, and i have installed the restricted kernel modules linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-386 and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-386. thanks for help and tips in advance :)
[10:55] <cartur25> so i should put sudo before that
[10:55] <Daishi> fyrestrtr: im trying to find vert and horz sync but i cant seem to
[10:55] <Daishi> but i know its supposed to be 60Hz
[10:55] <zool2005> i'm having an ongoing problem with the "switch user" function. When I select a new user from the list I get taken back to the current user's locked screen
[10:55] <sethk> cartur25, yes, if you aren't root
[10:55] <cartur25> ok cool.
[10:55] <ProN00b> Daishi, don't take those lines lightly, one of my (normal crt) screend would almost blow up when at the wrong rates
[10:55] <cartur25> I'm not because i hear that's not a good idea
[10:56] <Daishi> anyway ill brb...its about to rain and the dog doesnt like it
[10:56] <Daishi> ProN00b: i know they scare me
[10:56] <sethk> cartur25, well, opinions differ on that; in this case I see no reason to become root, certainly
[10:56] <divdby0> Hi everbody! I have a question. Why ubuntu linux became so popular? Is it worth to change my linux distribution for ubuntu?
[10:56] <KenSentMe> Is there a program that shows all kinds of details of a video file, like what codecs are used, what the resolution is etc?
[10:56] <Daishi> its a nice distro divdby0...easiest os i have installed
[10:56] <mcphail> divdby0: if you're happy with what you have got, then no
[10:56] <fyrestrtr> oh wow, songbird svn checkout includes the entire source tree of vlc.
[10:57] <zool2005> divdby0, what dist are you using?
[10:57] <TheGateKeeper> divdby0: what linux distro are you using?
[10:57] <Daishi> i only used it though because this is a new box
[10:57] <stefg> whoppix: known bug.. can you do apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade and try again?
[10:57] <Daishi> i run debian on my main one
[10:57] <fyrestrtr> KenSentMe: mplayer will do that, if you run it form the command line.
[10:57] <gunnar> XMMS,  Ogg Vorbis (1.2.10) input, ALSA (1.2.10) Output. Still Skips.  :(
[10:57] <whoppix> stefg, i just done that some minutes ago, but if you want me to ill do it once more
[10:57] <stefg> whoppix: no use if you just did it
[10:57] <divdby0> Thanks mcphail.
[10:57] <zool2005> dvdby0, like mcphail said, if you're happy then no but if you fancy a change I would highly recommend it
[10:58] <nu> hey fyrestrtr
[10:58] <whoppix> stefg, so is there any posibility to fix this or do i have to wait for some patch or something like that?
[10:58] <KenSentMe> fyrestrtr: but isn't there a program that only does that?
[10:58] <fyrestrtr> KenSentMe: mplayer -identify whatever.avi
[10:58] <mcphail> divdby0: it is well presented with an excellent package management system and the friendliest irc room
[10:58] <fyrestrtr> nu: how did it go?
[10:58] <stefg> whoppix: you can sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r` and then get the driver off the nvidia site and build a module yourself
[10:59] <smacky> my ubuntu loads slows on a 1.9 amd processor with 3 gigs of ram what do i need to do to speed this up ?
[10:59] <nu> fyrestrtr: instead of the second monitor turning on, i got twinview here on this monitor
[10:59] <whoppix> stefg, uh, sounds like much work
[10:59] <nu> fyrestrtr: i cant see all my desktop, but if i drag the mouse cursor do the left, the screen scrolls, samething for right side
[10:59] <|thunder> too much ram,   ;)
[10:59] <divdby0> Does it use its own pkg system or rpm?
[11:00] <whoppix> stefg, i dont need the glx support that hard, how long would it take until there is a fix for that problem?
[11:00] <|thunder> nu, seems you monitor is not capable of displaying res's that high
[11:00] <tand> When i put in the cd and boot from it, i puch install.. the cd packes out the files, and after that.. its just black screen, and nothing more. what sould i do? :s
[11:00] <mcphail> divdby0: it uses apt-get for .debs
[11:00] <|thunder> so it doing it virtually
[11:00] <Jack_Sparrow> smacky: just loads slow... but runs fine... what type of hard drives.. ide sata both...?
[11:00] <stefg> whoppix: na, don't be afraid.. we're with you. Start by 'sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`
[11:00] <whoppix> stefg, allright
[11:00] <nu> fyrestrtr: the other monitor's max is 1024 x 728. but it has worked in SuSe before, so it supports it
[11:01] <tand> When i put in the cd and boot from it, i puch install.. the cd packes out the files, and after that.. its just black screen, and nothing more. what sould i do? :s
[11:01] <lesshaste> are there any usb telephones (for skype for example) that work in linux?
[11:01] <smacky> Jack_Sparrow Ide hard drive's
[11:01] <Pulshion> Im installing windows xp using vmware and during the install it says that windows could not load the installer for battery. Could anyone please help
[11:01] <thomaswfry> quick question. I just seen on digg that they ubuntu just did a maint release. i installed last week, does this mean that i need to reinstall everything again ?
[11:01] <fyrestrtr> nu: hrmm, is the other monitor on?
[11:01] <fyrestrtr> thomaswfry: no
[11:01] <Jack_Sparrow> smacky: do you know what speed they are?  33 66 100 133?
[11:01] <divdby0> OK. Thank you people. I would like to try ubuntu first if I have problems with my suse. Bye!
[11:01] <smacky> 133
[11:02] <nu> fyrestrtr: yes. when i boot up the computer or shut down X, i see clone view on the other monitor
[11:02] <fyrestrtr> nu: pastebin your xorg.conf
[11:02] <nu> !pastebin
[11:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:02] <whoppix> stefg ok, done, i suggest i should download the stuff from the nvidia homepage now?
[11:02] <Jack_Sparrow> tand: you get to grub menu "install or start" and when sellected it hangs.. have you done the cd self test ?
[11:02] <Pulshion> Im installing windows xp using vmware and during the install it says that windows could not load the installer for battery. Could anyone please help
[11:02] <stefg> whoppix: exactly..
[11:02] <tand> cd self test?
[11:02] <tand> where?
[11:03] <nu> fyrestrtr: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20213
[11:03] <Jack_Sparrow> tand: down three lines on the std disk
[11:03] <fyrestrtr> KenSentMe: file
[11:03] <stefg> whoppix: the clever place to put the Nvidia*.run file is /usr/src
[11:03] <tand> ok, sec
[11:03] <gunnar> XMMS,  Ogg Vorbis (1.2.10) input, ALSA (1.2.10) Output. Still Skips.  :(
[11:03] <whoppix> stefg, which version should i install? the newest stable?
[11:04] <Jack_Sparrow> smacky: Loading time is not a Ub issue but a Hardware issue
[11:04] <tand> Jack_Sparrow, memory test? ;p
[11:04] <stefg> whoppix: you mentioned 'legacy'... what card do you have?
[11:04] <Jack_Sparrow> no
[11:04] <whoppix> stefg 6800LE
[11:04] <Pulshion> Im installing windows xp using vmware and during the install it says that windows could not load the installer for battery. Could anyone please help
[11:04] <tand> check cd for defects?
[11:04] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[11:04] <whoppix> stefg, it was in the legacy list
[11:04] <fyrestrtr> nu: you missed the two most important lines!!
[11:04] <nu> oops
[11:04] <sith_man> im back
[11:04] <nu> fyrestrtr: what are they?
[11:04] <tand> ok.. workin
[11:04] <sith_man> and im on ubuntu
[11:04] <fyrestrtr> well, one
[11:05] <Jack_Sparrow> keep watching it..
[11:05] <sith_man> :) but its the lower kernel
[11:05] <stefg> whoppix: I'm not 100% sure about that... see if you can find info on the Nvidia-site
[11:05] <fyrestrtr> Option "UseMetaModes" "1280x1024, 1280x1024"
[11:05] <whoppix> stefg, infos about what exactly?
[11:05] <nu> ok let me try. brb
[11:05] <ych> noob question, where is my x log file?
[11:06] <stefg> whoppix: about if you need the legacy otr the latest stable driver
[11:06] <whoppix> ych, /var/log/Xorg.0.log if im right
[11:06] <fyrestrtr> ych: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:06] <ych> thankx
[11:06] <whoppix> stefg should i try once more with the non-legacy?
[11:06] <Jack_Sparrow> tand: Assuming the test is ok you can hit F6 and try some of these options  Grub Boot Options ide=nodma vga=normal nomce acpi=off pnpbios=off xdrvr=vesa xres=800x600 apm=off quiet
[11:06] <stefg> whoppix: won't hurt
[11:06] <mwe> I wonder why I had to go to nautilus settings to adjust the default icon size of the desktop
[11:06] <nu> fyrestrtr:  just:  Option "UseMetaModes" "1280x1024, 1280x1024"
[11:06] <nu> ?
[11:06] <fyrestrtr> nu: yes
[11:06] <whoppix> stefg, then im doing that first, could save me much work :)
[11:06] <nu> ok
[11:06] <nu> brb
[11:07] <fyrestrtr> nu: wait wait
[11:07] <tand> Jack_Sparrow, all at once?
[11:07] <fyrestrtr> ah crap
[11:07] <tand> ide=nodma vga=normal nomce acpi=off pnpbios=off xdrvr=vesa xres=800x600 apm=off quiet
[11:07] <Jack_Sparrow> No one at a time
[11:07] <tand> okok
[11:07] <zool2005> do I need to install gdmflexiserver to enable user switching?
[11:07] <stefg> whoppix: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config-enable
[11:07] <Jack_Sparrow> tand: IS this a desktop or lappy
[11:07] <stefg> whoppix: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[11:07] <tand> desktop
[11:07] <whoppix> stefg, nvidia-glx-config makes meat of my xorg.conf, so i prefer to switch by hand
[11:08] <nu> didnt work
[11:08] <stefg> whoppix: obviously you know what you're doing, so go ahead
[11:08] <whoppix> stefg, i dont have any idea why, but nvidia-glx-config assumes i have a ati card installed (?!)
[11:08] <Jack_Sparrow> tand: One other thing might be to set bios from usb2.0 to usb1.1
[11:08] <cartur25> Thanks guys that code worked.
[11:08] <cartur25> I have a new problem now
[11:08] <cartur25> gksudo qtparted
[11:08] <cartur25>   Major opcode:  145
[11:08] <cartur25>   Minor opcode:  3
[11:08] <cartur25>   Resource id:  0x0
[11:08] <cartur25> Failed to open device
[11:08] <cartur25> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[11:08] <cartur25>   Major opcode:  145
[11:08] <cartur25>   Minor opcode:  3
[11:08] <cartur25>   Resource id:  0x0
[11:08] <cartur25> Failed to open device
[11:08] <stefg> whoppix: this is something for the comedy channel :-)
[11:08] <cartur25> Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed
[11:08] <cartur25> Error: File system was not cleanly unmounted!  You should run e2fsck.  Modifying an unclean file system could cause severe corruption.
[11:08] <mwe> cartur25: stop
[11:08] <tand> Jack_Sparrow, afterwords then?
[11:08] <whoppix> stefg, hehe
[11:08] <cartur25> mwe: what happened
[11:08] <mwe> cartur25: don't paste here
[11:09] <azureal> !pastebin > captur25
[11:09] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste
[11:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:09] <nu> fyrestrtr: i added "Option "UseMetaModes" "1024x768, 1024x768" but it was a no-go
[11:09] <Jack_Sparrow> tand: I am just giving you some things to try with difficult hardware..
[11:09] <fyrestrtr> nu: yeah sorry its Option "MetaModes"
[11:09] <tuxtux> ciao
[11:09] <fyrestrtr> typo
[11:09] <whoppix> stefg ok, much thanks for the help so far, im gonna try it with the non-legacy now :)
[11:09] <whoppix> brb later after x restart
[11:09] <nu> alright
[11:10] <Jack_Sparrow> tand: Do you have any usb 2.0 devices plugged in?
[11:10] <mwe> cartur25: you should probably fsck the drive first
[11:10] <stefg> whoppix: BTW, i don't know how you got the idea that the 6800 is legacy... legacy ist TNT and stuff
[11:10] <cartur25> mwe I just fscked the disk
[11:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Not legacy
[11:10] <fyrestrtr> TNT -- that's Jack Norris' channel!
[11:10] <cartur25> i did shutdown -r -F now
[11:10] <tand> Jack_Sparrow, razer
[11:10] <mwe> cartur25: how?
[11:10] <gunnar> stefg:  I tried playing my files with XMMS  (Ogg Vorbis (1.2.10) input, ALSA (1.2.10) Output. Still Skips.)  :(
[11:11] <cartur25> mwe: shutdown -r -F now
[11:11] <mwe> cartur25: did you fsck when it was mounted?
[11:11] <fyrestrtr> gunnar: renice the process?
[11:11] <whoppix> stefg, hey, it works :D much thanks once more
[11:11] <Jack_Sparrow> tand: What is razer?   Pull it off to try
[11:11] <whoppix> stefg, and now i have a reasonable resoultion too ;)
[11:11] <gunnar> Tried nice --19 .. No help.
[11:11] <whoppix> s/resoultion/resolution/
[11:11] <tand> Jack_Sparrow, ide=nodma -> blacksrc with much wrintings :P
[11:11] <mwe> cartur25: clearly qtparted doesn't think the drive has been fsck'ed
[11:12] <stefg> whoppix: this card is newer than mine... so never ever touch legacy drivers,
[11:12] <stefg> again
[11:12] <cartur25> mwe: Ok so how do you suggest I fsck it
[11:12] <fyrestrtr> cartur25: is your drive on its last legs? what does a smart reading tell you?
[11:12] <mwe> cartur25: from a live cd when the partitions are not mounted
[11:12] <whoppix> stefg, hm, my english is bad, what does legacy means? somethign like older or so? ^^
[11:12] <mikolan> legacy drivers are useful on newer cards in some instances too
[11:12] <cartur25> fyrestrtr: This laptop is a year old
[11:12] <mikolan> for gaming etc since they are more stable
[11:12] <stefg> whoppix: old stuff from the junkyard
[11:12] <whoppix> ok, hehe
[11:13] <cartur25> mwe: do I need to unmount the drives?
[11:13] <fyrestrtr> whoppix: it means non-supported, old.
[11:13] <mwe> cartur25: if your live cd mounts the partitions
[11:13] <floppyears> hi
[11:13] <mwe> cartur25: boot your live cd and type mount to see what's mounted
[11:13] <cartur25> sigh
[11:13] <floppyears> is there an ubuntu package for vim 7 ?
[11:14] <vader> Where can I download Breezy? I have an old laptop that don't like LTS
[11:14] <mwe> cartur25: then umount anything that's mounted from that drive. then fsck it
[11:14] <cartur25> Is there an easier way to partition my drive? Will the windows xp installation allow me to partition the drive?
[11:14] <whoppix> ah, just one more thing.. some1 helped me with that before, but i cant remember how we solved that.. i would like to change the resolution of the framebuffer-bootscreen to my native display resolution :)
[11:14] <stefg> gunnar: this soundproblem can be kernel related or player related.. try different players, i'd recommend vlc, and at http://nightlies.videolan.org you'll get the new version for dapper
[11:14] <mwe> cartur25: what are you doing?
[11:14] <acojlo> cartur25, xp will not complain
[11:14] <nu_> fyrestrtr: i have good news and bad news
[11:14] <fyrestrtr> nu_: oh great lol
[11:14] <mwe> cartur25: partitioning a second drive?
[11:15] <nu_> lol
[11:15] <cartur25> I have one hard drive in my laptop and I have linux installed on the whole thing. I want to partition the drive so I can install xp on the other one
[11:15] <mwe> cartur25: booting a live cd and typing mount and a few umounts is not that difficult, is it?
[11:15] <nu_> fyrestrtr: good news: both monitors working
[11:15] <fyrestrtr> what's the bad news?
[11:15] <nu_> fyrestrtr: bad news: theyre both using 1024 x 728 res.
[11:15] <KenSentMe> vader: you could try xubuntu, it's a lighter Ubuntu
[11:15] <tand> Jack_Sparrow, kernel panic
[11:15] <tand> :s
[11:16] <nu_> fyrestrtr: also, instead of twinview, is Dualview available too?
[11:16] <wizzomafizzo> are there mirrors for the security repo? because im clocking about 3kb/s here
[11:16] <fyrestrtr> nu_: yes, because that's what you setup in the xorg.conf file.
[11:16] <vader> yes but my dad is older with memory probs and knows Ubuntu GNOME
[11:16] <floppyears> anybody ? is there vim 7 packages for ubuntu ?
[11:16] <mitch_> whoppix, For 1280x1024@32  I use kernel optio vga=0x324
[11:16] <Jack_Sparrow> tand: Did the self test pass.. all of it..
[11:16] <whoppix> mitch_, much thanks :)
[11:16] <nu_> fyrestrtr: let me go reconfig that badboy
[11:16] <tand> yes
[11:16] <fyrestrtr> nu_: change the "MetaModes" line to reflect how you want it to be.
[11:16] <tand> it came press any key to boot
[11:16] <tand> :P
[11:17] <KenSentMe> vader: you can download breezy from the download section on the ubuntu sight. Go to the mirror near you, scroll below and click 'Parent Directory', you then can choose Breezy
[11:17] <sethk> vader, you can download the earlier version at the same sites you can download the current version
[11:17] <fyrestrtr> nu_: Option "MetaModes" "leftmonitor, rightmonitor"
[11:17] <stefg> gunnar: BTW what kernel are you running?
[11:17] <nu_> fyrestrtr: on this line "Option "MetaModes" "1024x768, 1024x768""  the first resolution should be my primary monitor right? (supports 1280x1024)
[11:17] <nu_> fyrestrtr: got it
[11:17] <nu_> fyrestrtr: am i using twinview? lol
[11:17] <Jack_Sparrow> tand: The only option I have to offer are the ones I gave you...  Did you unplug your razer
[11:17] <fyrestrtr> nu_: yeah
[11:18] <nu_> fyrestrtr: is Dualview an option too?
[11:18] <fyrestrtr> what is dualview?
[11:18] <tand> ok.. ill try it
[11:18] <nu_> fyrestrtr: dont know how to explain =/. its like twinview almost
[11:19] <fyrestrtr> but?
[11:19] <nu_> brb
[11:19] <Jack_Sparrow> tand: did you try setting bios usb to 1.1, did you try all the different grub options..
[11:19] <cartur25> mwe: so I boot with live cd open a terminal and type unmount /dev/hda1 (root partition) and unmount /dev/hda5 (swap partition) then what's the code to run fsck?
[11:19] <mwe> cartur25: no
[11:19] <nu_> but a little different. the desktop wallpaper repeats itself on the second monitor
[11:19] <cartur25> mwe: then what
[11:19] <mwe> cartur25: umount. and type mount first to see what's mounted
[11:19] <nu_> instead of it being one really large
[11:19] <mwe> cartur25: not unmount. umount
[11:20] <nu_> maybe its because of the reso, ill brb, changed settings
[11:20] <tand> Jack_Sparrow, ill try the pure installation without any usb's inside :P
[11:20] <Lil-Abner> Hi and good evening.
[11:20] <cartur25> mwe: oh ok then how do I fsck the disc
[11:20] <Jack_Sparrow> tand: good luck.. one of those will almost always work
[11:20] <Lil-Abner> Can anyone direct to information on how to find a file/application?
[11:20] <mwe> cartur25: fsck /dev/hda1
[11:21] <mwe> cartur25: then run gparted from the live cd
[11:21] <sethk> Lil-Abner, for files, the locate command and the find command
[11:21] <gunnar> stefg:  Linux oak 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:21] <fyrestrtr> Lil-Abner: something that is installed already, or something you want to install?
[11:21] <sethk> Lil-Abner, applications are just files
[11:21] <mwe> cartur25: you cannot alter active partitions
[11:21] <KenSentMe> floppyears: Vim 7 will be in Edgy and maybe there will be a backport to dapper
[11:21] <cartur25> makes sense
[11:21] <floppyears> cool, so not yet ?
[11:22] <cartur25> mwe: can I use a 6.06.1 live cd on my 6.06 dapper drake?
[11:22] <Lil-Abner> Ok, I'm trying to get used to the terminalogy. I'm still making the transition from MS to Linux.
[11:22] <zool2005> my /var/log/syslog is huge, how can I jump to the end of it?
[11:22] <mopflite> cartur25: ?
[11:22] <Spec> zool2005: tail /var/log/syslog
[11:22] <npster> Is there a way to check if my Ubuntu CD has been sent ?
[11:22] <zool2005> chers
[11:22] <Spec> zool2005: if you're editing it in vim, press ctrl+g
[11:22] <nu> back and kikin it
[11:22] <Spec> zool2005: if you want more than just the last few lines, do tail -n100 /var/log/syslog
[11:22] <Lil-Abner> I believe it's already installed, but I'm not sure. It's rootkit. I want to learn how to run it but I can't find it's location. lol
[11:22] <mitch_> zool2005, SHIFT+G in less or vim
[11:22] <fyrestrtr> workin now as you expect?
[11:23] <stefg> gunnar: try updating the kernel to a 686.  sudo apt-get install linux-image-686
[11:23] <Spec> oh, shift g, my bad
[11:23] <nu> fyrestrtr: thanks for all your help
[11:23] <TheGateKeeper> Lil-Abner: Windows to Ubuntu Transition Guide:http://www.pcmech.com/show/os/917/
[11:23] <zool2005> thanks all
[11:23] <mitch_> zool2005, or try tail instead... tail -n 50 /var/log/syslog
[11:23] <cartur25> mwe: I'm running ubuntu 6.06, can I use an ubunto 6.06.1 live cd to run all the code above?
[11:23] <gunnar> VLC 2.8.0 didn't work.  Will upgrade kernel.
[11:23] <nu> fyrestrtr: yes. exept the wallpaper stretches to both screens, making it a really long wallpaper
[11:23] <npster> Is there a way to see if my Ubuntu CD has been sent ?
[11:23] <whoppix> heya :) its me again... now i tried to add "vga=0x324" to my kernel options, but grub (or is it the kernel? i dunno) now complains that that is not a valid mode. or did i spelled something wrong?
[11:23] <Necrosan_> Why the crap is a new ubuntu install running a BITTORRENT tracker
[11:23] <mwe> cartur25: yes
[11:23] <Necrosan_> That's ridiculous
[11:24] <Necrosan_> A security haphazard
[11:24] <fyrestrtr> nu: yes, because you have an extended desktop now, and you probably had your desktop settings to 'stretch' so that's what it is doing.
[11:24] <npster> Is there a way to see if my Ubuntu CD has been sent ?
[11:24] <stefg> gunnar: make it linux-image-686-smp (for the HT)
[11:24] <KenSentMe> floppyears: here you can ask to backport vim 7 for Dapper https://launchpad.net/products/dapper-backports/+filebug
[11:24] <npster> Is there a way to see if my Ubuntu CD has been sent ?
[11:24] <mwe> Necrosan_: my ubuntu is not running such a thing
[11:24] <goonies> is there any command to clear dns cache on linux?
[11:24] <Necrosan_> it says on shutdown
[11:24] <whoppix> Necrosan_, i was wondering about that too
[11:25] <nu> fyrestrtr: yea. if i use a 1280x1024 wallpaper, it works as expected. if its 1024x728, it stetches
[11:25] <jrib> npster: you can login on the shipit page
[11:25] <Necrosan_> "Stopping BT tracker. [OK] "
[11:25] <zool2005> my /var/log/syslog is full of gconf errors when I try to switch desktops
[11:25] <Necrosan_> thats god damn ridiculous
[11:25] <floppyears> thanks KenSentMe
[11:25] <nu> fyrestrtr: which i no big deal. =D
[11:25] <Necrosan_> Whoever allowed that through is a MORON.
[11:25] <fyrestrtr> nu: normal then.
[11:25] <KenSentMe> floppyears: no problem
[11:25] <npster> and it'll show me ?
[11:25] <nu> yes
[11:25] <owen_> whats the purpose of an XGL x.server?
[11:25] <stefg> npster: yeah, go to your snail-mail-box and see if it's in there :-)
[11:25] <npster> "snail-mail-box"
[11:25] <cica> hi guys. does anyone know how to get rid of the sudo feature in ubuntu?
[11:25] <mwe> Necrosan_: what are you talking about. it's not installed by default. are you sure it was even running?
[11:25] <whoppix> owen_, on one hand to accelerate your desktop and window work in general by using openGL and on the other hand to give you more eye-candy :)
[11:26] <npster> cica NO You cant it has to be THERE !!!
[11:26] <whoppix> mwe, yupp, in /etc/init.d/ is a script called "bittorrent" by default
[11:26] <cica> npster: isn't it posible to add something to the passwd file?
[11:26] <npster> cica If it isn't there then anyone can change your settings !!!
[11:26] <owen_> can you modify your grub so you can either choose ubuntu 6.06 with the regular x.server, and another with xgl ?
[11:26] <fyrestrtr> cica: you mean, not allow people to sudo?
[11:27] <npster> cica NO
[11:27] <fyrestrtr> owen_: that's not a setting you fiddle with in grub.
[11:27] <Lil-Abner> Ok, thanks GateKeeper. I bookmarked all kinds of Linux helps, but could not fine infor on locating a file. I'll give that a try and search thru my info for "locate" and "find" commands, too. Thanks again.
[11:27] <KenSentMe> !root > cica
[11:27] <Killerkiwi> Is there a way to allow the file selector browse samba shares????
[11:27] <npster> cica means to use root without sudo
[11:27] <mwe> whoppix: are you saying every new ubuntu installation is running a bittorent tracker?
[11:27] <cica> fyrestrtr npster: would prefer to do su - as apposed to sudo su - (know whatta mean)?
[11:27] <mwe> whoppix: I think not
[11:27] <whoppix> mwe, i just installed this ubuntu on my computer
[11:27] <owen_> so i would have to edit the xorg.conf everytime to use XGL?
[11:27] <NthDegree> cica do sudo -i
[11:27] <cartur25> mwe: after I umount and fsck the drives, do I have to mount them again after partitioning them?
[11:27] <Necrosan_> mwe: If it's not really running
[11:27] <glen_> cica, sudo passwd root
[11:27] <fyrestrtr> cica: sudo -i and be done with it
[11:27] <NthDegree> then you don't do sudo su
[11:27] <whoppix> mwe, i didnt installed any file-sharing related packages, just a few drivers
[11:27] <Necrosan_> Why include the stupid message "stopping this crap blah blah"
[11:27] <cry0gen> whoppix: I just installed my ubuntu yesterday
[11:27] <TheGateKeeper> Lil-Abner: locate and find commands are used in the cli
[11:28] <cry0gen> i don't have a tracker on mine
[11:28] <cry0gen> that's some what non-sense
[11:28] <nu> cica are you trying to navigate though files as root?
[11:28] <mwe> whoppix: and ps -e|grep bitt confirms it's running?
[11:28] <cry0gen> but i am on edgy now
[11:28] <TheGateKeeper> !cli > Lil-Abner
[11:28] <willys_fueguino> can someone help me??
[11:28] <whoppix> mwe, lemme check that
[11:28] <gunnar> stefg:  couldn't find the linux-image-686-smp package?
[11:28] <fyrestrtr> do not tell people to set root passwords here. It causes a lot of problems later
[11:28] <nu> willys_fueguino: we can try
[11:28] <mitch_> whoppix, double checked vga option, works fine on my sys. What's your whole kernel line look like?
[11:28] <NthDegree> cica, sudo su is not the procedure :) hence why you dislike it
[11:28] <willys_fueguino> look:6.4 52.2 358308 133948 ?       SL   18:10   1:06 /usr/bin/X :1 -br -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:1.Xauth -noli
[11:28] <KenSentMe> What is the command to see free disk space?
[11:28] <glen_> fyrestrtr, why so?
[11:28] <cica> nu: no I'm just to doing su - when trying to get root access
[11:28] <NthDegree> cica, sudo -i gives you root powers
[11:28] <nu> cica: okay
[11:28] <fyrestrtr> glen_: because that's not how ubuntu is designed to work.
[11:28] <whoppix> mwe nah, its not running, but the init tries to stop it on shutdown
[11:28] <willys_fueguino> my x server is taking much RAm
[11:28] <whoppix> mitch_, wait a sec
[11:28] <stefg> !info linux-image-686-smp
[11:28] <ubotu> Package linux-image-686-smp does not exist in dapper
[11:29] <mwe> whoppix: check /etc/default/bittorent it shouldn't run by default
[11:29] <stefg> !info linux-image-686
[11:29] <ubotu> linux-image-686: Linux kernel image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.6.15.24 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[11:29] <floppyears> do ubuntu and debian collaborate on packages or something like that ?
[11:29] <glen_> fyrestrtr, well it's necessary to gain root acces to, say, swat
[11:29] <sprink> can anyone tell me if the security repositorys are always slow or if its just my pc?
[11:29] <NthDegree> glen_ using root is bad, you can make sudo ask for a root password (like I do) as a workaround
[11:29] <floppyears> or are they completely separate ?
[11:29] <cica> NthDegree: it's just I'm used to doing su - to get root and I kinda prefer ot that way
[11:29] <whoppix> mitch_, kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-386 root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet splash vga=0
[11:29] <TheGateKeeper> Lil-Abner: I use KDE but probable exits in gnome to a menu entry for 'Find Files/Folders'
[11:29] <stefg> gunnar: strange, my apt-cache serach has it... hold on a sec
[11:29] <NthDegree> cica, having a root password directly can be dangerous
[11:29] <ats> floppyears, its posible to install debian packages on ubuntu but its not recommended, it might mess things up
[11:29] <npster> Where is Cannonical from ?
[11:29] <fyrestrtr> whoppix: vga=0 is not a valid mode
[11:29] <NthDegree> cica, sudo -i gives you root easier than su
[11:30] <whoppix> mwe, bittorrent is in /etc/default, but its not running
[11:30] <cartur25> mwe: after I umount, fsck, and partition, do I mount the drives when I'm done partitioning?
[11:30] <nu> hey guys. i have a SDA icon on my desktop which is my other hard drive
[11:30] <nu> i cant unmound it
[11:30] <cica> NthDegree: I guess I'll just have to get rid of my old habbits then
[11:30] <whoppix> fyrestrtr, mitch_ ah, sry, my mistake, the line was wrapped...
[11:30] <trippen> howdy.. im having issues trying to get Java and Flash working with mozilla.. any suggestion
[11:30] <mitch_> whoppix, ^^ ditto, should be vga=0x324
[11:30] <npster> nu How can you unmount a HDD ?
[11:30] <NthDegree> cica, su will NOT work on graphical applications successfully 9 times out of 10
[11:30] <mwe> whoppix: check the file. the first line will say if the tracker should be started. by default no
[11:30] <nu> npster: i right click it and it has an "unmmount" option, but it wont let me
[11:30] <fyrestrtr> trippen: did you read the wiki, and what do you mean by 'issue'
[11:30] <willys_fueguino> 6.4 52.2 358308 133948 ?       SL   18:10   1:06 /usr/bin/X :1 -br -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:1.Xauth -noli
[11:31] <NthDegree> cica: best way is to either use sudo -i or customise sudo to ask for a root password (then you can su or sudo)
[11:31] <nu> npster: i dont want it on my desktop though, i like my desktop clean
[11:31] <whoppix> mitch_, fyrestrtr kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-386 root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet splash vga=0x324 is the correct line from my menu.lst
[11:31] <mwe> cartur25: what do you want to do when you're done partitioning?
[11:31] <toddobryan> Help. I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a machine, and I think I'm having BIOS issues. I can only boot from the CD or hard drive when they're plugged into the IDE 1 slot on the motherboard. I booted to the CD and think I installed Ubuntu on the hard drive, but it won't boot unless I switch them, and then, after loading the kernel the boot dies and I drop into a shell.
[11:31] <willys_fueguino> xserver is taking 52.2 of my ram
[11:31] <whoppix> mwe, START_BTTRACK=0
[11:31] <npster> nu: Unplug it :)
[11:31] <willys_fueguino> thats way to much
[11:31] <cica> NthDegree: customise sudo to ask for a root password. this sounds what I'm after
[11:31] <mwe> whoppix: it's disabled then
[11:31] <trippen> fyrestrtr:  with mozilla for the flash it says i need to do a manuell install i downloaded the file and followed what it told me to do and still nothing i also used the synaptic package thing and still nothing.. and what wiki are you refering too
[11:31] <nu> npster: lol i dont want to have to unplug everytime =/
[11:31] <nu> ill leave it there though. i can navigate through windows
[11:31] <cartur25> mwe: I want to boot back to ubuntu to make sure I didn't screw up - then I want to install winxp
[11:32] <fyrestrtr> !java > trippen
[11:32] <whoppix> mwe, yupp, but why does the init tries to stop it evrytime i shut down? and what is that thing good for? i dont want such a thing :)
[11:32] <nu> and bring files from there to here
[11:32] <fyrestrtr> !flash > trippen
[11:32] <willys_fueguino> can someone help me??
[11:32] <NthDegree> cica, check the wiki there's a way to do so - before doing that you want to do in a terminal: sudo -i then passwd root
[11:32] <mitch_> whoppix, does your display suppor 1280x1024?
[11:32] <cica> !flash
[11:32] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:32] <trippen> whats that
[11:32] <npster> nu: Try deleting it, or open the File amnager and move it somewhere else
[11:32] <mwe> cartur25: then don't mount when you're done
[11:32] <TheGateKeeper> cica: probable get shot for saying this, but if you want to log in as root all the time like windows then you want linspire, but it really isn't a good idea!!
[11:32] <NthDegree> cica: that way you can enable a root account
[11:32] <whoppix> mitch_, yupp, its a 19" tft and 1280x1024 is the native resolution
[11:32] <npster> manager*
[11:32] <willys_fueguino> ubuntu is crashing
[11:32] <stefg> gunnar: Ok, the newer kernels are smp-enabled by default anyway, so sudo apt-get install linux-image-686 will do. Watch out to get the restricted modules as well, and of course you have to reboot after a kernel update
[11:32] <cartur25> mwe: why don't I mount the drives again when I want to boot into ubuntu?
[11:32] <NthDegree> cica: then you MUST proceed to modify sudo to enable graphical admin to work 100% properly
[11:32] <cica> NthDegree: cheers...
[11:32] <mwe> cartur25: be aware that you'll probably need to reinstall grub after windows though
[11:33] <chikpink17> kkk
[11:33] <cica> NthDegree: what does !flash and !root etc etc mean/do?
[11:33] <nu> npster: deleting it doesnt work. it says "if you want to unmount, use the unmount option in the menu"
[11:33] <nu> npster: but when i click unmount, it says i must be root
[11:33] <mwe> cartur25: because they unmounted when you reboot. the normal boot process mounts them
[11:33] <fyrestrtr> cica: they trigger the bot to display a factoid
[11:33] <nu> npster: and ive done sudo -i, still wont let me
[11:33] <gunnar> stefg:  Will install the restricted modules and reboot.  brb
[11:33] <npster> nu: come to xubuntu
[11:33] <willys_fueguino> help!!
[11:33] <nu> npster: i was there 2 days ago
[11:33] <cica> fyrestrtr: can anyone do it?
[11:33] <nu> npster: peopple convinced me to go ubuntu
[11:33] <cartur25> mwe: oh ok. why will i need to reinstall grub after windows install?
[11:34] <mitch_> whoppix, what's the exact error you get when using vga=0x324?
[11:34] <npster> nu: Just come to the channel
[11:34] <NthDegree> nu, sudo -i then enter *YOUR* password and it should work
[11:34] <nu> oh
[11:34] <mwe> cartur25: because the windows installer overwrites it
[11:34] <nu> NthDegree: its what i did
[11:34] <whoppix> mitch_, wait a second, i have to reboot for that
[11:34] <fyrestrtr> cica: yes, but if you want to play with the bot, /msg ubotu help will get you started
[11:34] <mwe> !grub > cartur25
[11:34] <mwe> cartur25: read /msg from ubotu
[11:34] <cartur25> k
[11:34] <NthDegree> nu, check that your account is in wheel or admin groups
[11:35] <mwe> cartur25: it tells you what to do
[11:35] <trippen> fyrestrtr:  it says to use the add/remove program.. but sun java is not listed under that section anywhere
[11:35] <nu> NthDegree: where is that?
[11:35] <mheath> Does anyone have a laptop with a synaptics touchpad? Ubuntu always autodetects it as a normal mouse, which means that some of the features don't work properly, and I experience some weird problems with Ubuntu (the mosues focus grabs onto things, and doesn't let go until I right click on them)
[11:35] <toddobryan> Could anybody suggest a place to check and see which settings I should have on the BIOS and where everything should be plugged in? I know it's a VP7 motherboard.
[11:35] <NthDegree> nu, look on the menus for Users and Groups
[11:36] <mwe> mheath: I used to have one. I had to fine tune xorg.conf
[11:36] <Ackeubu_> My clock is wrong, how do I set it?
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[11:36] <mheath> mwe: Any chance you could point me to some good docs on doing that? I was attemping to do just that, but ended up with what I guess is a bad/outdated tutorial because it broke the mouse configuration rather than fixing it :P
[11:36] <NthDegree> toddobryan, tried looking on the CMOS Setup Utility?
[11:36] <mwe> mheath: it's explained in the documentation of xserver-xorg-input-synaptics I think
[11:36] <jrib> Ackeubu_: right click on the clock, the adjust time and date
[11:36] <NthDegree> you can alter IDE drives there
[11:37] <stefg> Ackeubu_: sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com
[11:37] <willys_fueguino> help??
[11:37] <whoppix> mitch_, "You passed an undefined mode number" is the error output, and in the line under that: "Press return to see video modes available..."
[11:37] <NthDegree> willys_fuegino, what is the problem? (it's crowded in here :p )
[11:37] <nu> NthDegree: NthDegree im at the Users and Groups panel. i have all privileges
[11:37] <mwe> mheath: /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/ I think
[11:37] <NthDegree> nu, then sudo should work
[11:38] <Ackeubu_> stefg im in fluxbox and i moved from canada to sweden. so what didnt really work any other ideas?
[11:38] <NthDegree> nu, unless sudo configuration was altered at all
[11:38] <mwe> mheath: and back up xorg.conf before fiddling with it
[11:38] <willys_fueguino> NthDegree:  yeap, im having problems with xserver... it uses way to much ram
[11:38] <toddobryan> NthDegree: Is that an Ubuntu thing, or is it in the board BIOS?
[11:38] <Spec> willys_fueguino: don't run it then
[11:38] <willys_fueguino> but i wnt o fix it
[11:38] <stefg> Ackeubu_: you have to run tzconfig to tell your box that you're in Sweden now
[11:38] <Spec> command line is better anyways
[11:39] <NthDegree> willys_fueguino: the RAM it uses is not much - it reports using a lot of *memory* that isn't all RAM most is graphics card memory
[11:39] <Ackeubu_> stefg thanks alot
[11:39] <Ackeubu_> gnight
[11:40] <whoppix> mitch_, youre there?
[11:40] <willys_fueguino> NthDegree: ok...  but if a login in gnome sesion (default) ubuntu crashes with xgl, and i dont know how to eliminate the script that initiates it
[11:41] <gunnar> stefg:  Something that makes me wonder,  I can watch DVD's (mplayer) without skipping or jumping.  Kinda weird.  My DVD is IDE  and my hard drive is SATA. Could that make a differance?
[11:41] <NthDegree> willys_fueguino: that is xgl not X
[11:41] <gunnar> rebooting, brb
[11:41] <Daishi> so is 61Hz refresh rate on a laptops lcd cause for concern?
[11:41] <stefg> gunnar: now, shouldn't make a difference
[11:41] <mitch_> whoppix, yeah..
[11:41] <NthDegree> willys_fueguino: xgl is AFAIK not officially supported (please correct me if i'm wrong)
[11:42] <whoppix> mitch_, you read that error msg?
[11:42] <cartur25> mwe: ok thanks, so until I reinstall GRUB, will I just boot to windows with no option to go into linux?
[11:42] <willys_fueguino> NthDegree:  how can I remove it??
[11:42] <mwe> cartur25: yes
[11:42] <mitch_> whoppix, sounds like your display adapater doesn't support..
[11:42] <mwe> cartur25: ubuntu will still be there though
[11:42] <mitch_> whoppix, let me find a list of modes for you... hang on.
[11:42] <zool2005> gdmflexiserver doesn't work, I just get dumped back to a locked screen. Can anyone help please?
[11:42] <whoppix> mitch_, thats strange, im currently using 1280x1024.. ok, thanks
[11:42] <mwe> cartur25: it's just not accessible
[11:42] <toddobryan> NthDegree: Nvm. I thought the "CMOS Setup Utility" was some other program. Trust me, I've looked at all the options in there, but there are about a gazillion, and I've set them to what I think is reasonable, but am not getting anywhere.
[11:43] <Boj> Does anyone know how to change to a lower resolution? Everytime I try changing from 1280*1024 --> 1024*768 it just takes me to the login screen and remains on 1280 :(
[11:43] <NthDegree> willys_fueguino: if you installed xgl (as it isn't naturally there last time i looked) then consult the documentation you used to install with
[11:43] <willys_fueguino> ok...
[11:43] <NthDegree> toddobryan, checked the boot order at all for it
[11:43] <willys_fueguino> thanx NthDegree
[11:43] <mitch_> whoppix,  look at VESA modes here: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Framebuffer-HOWTO-5.html
[11:43] <mwe> Boj: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf after creating a backup
[11:44] <mwe> Boj: I don't know why you get the behaviour you're describing
[11:44] <toddobryan> NthDegree: Yeah. And it doesn't matter what I set. It will only boot from whatever is plugged into IDE1.
[11:44] <mitch_> whoppix, somewhat incomplete list, but worth starting here. Maybe try vga=0x31B?
[11:45] <toddobryan> NthDegree: I set it to CDROM, and if the CD is plugged into IDE2, it just won't boot.
[11:45] <Boj> mwe: Yeah i never had it on 5.10
[11:45] <whoppix> mitch_, ok, im gonna try that :) thx so far, i brb
[11:45] <NthDegree> toddobryan, then try enabling both IDE controller channels
[11:46] <mwe> Boj: you should be able to work around it by editing the file by hand though
[11:46] <Unix_n_Coffee> anyone here familiar to dsl services?
[11:46] <toddobryan> NthDegree: I'll check them. But once I boot into the CD, I am able to install to the hard drive (or at least it seems I am). I'm sure it's something stupid I'm overlooking. :-)
[11:46] <backz> Hey, I can't install libgtk2.0-dev, apt says it depends libxcursor-dev and libxfixes-dev but those will not be installed. why?
[11:47] <popeydotcom> Unix_n_Coffee: what's up?
[11:47] <gunnar> I'm back with : Linux oak 2.6.15-26-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 03:13:28 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux,  and my sound dons't skip.  Thank you.
[11:47] <Boj> mwe: Ok I'll have another attempt.
[11:47] <cartur25> mwe: thanks a lot for your help. i hope this works :)
[11:47] <TheGateKeeper> backz: are they in different repos that need enabling??
[11:48] <mwe> Boj: put your preferred res at the beginning of the resolution lines
[11:48] <Unix_n_Coffee> popeydotcom, ok in windows my friend this connection thing he has to do to connect to the web and there is a ethernet directly connected to the dsl modem and he doesnt have a router or some hub that has more than 1 more will ubuntu support a dsl modem that doesnt connect to a hub or router?
[11:48] <TheGateKeeper> backz: have you installed build-essential?
[11:48] <mwe> Boj: or paste the file at paste.ubuntu-nl.org and I'll look at it for you if you want me to
[11:48] <computer14> hi
[11:48] <whoppix> mitch_, works with that option, thx once more :) all my problems solved for now :)
[11:49] <Tux> help
[11:49] <computer14> hi how is in this chat room
[11:49] <popey> Unix_n_Coffee: if the modem has an ethernet interface then yes, it will likely dish out an IP address via DHCP and will work just fine in ubuntu
[11:49] <Unix_n_Coffee> popeydotcom its like a connection thing he has to do to connect to the web
[11:49] <Tux> how do ytou install a binary file?
[11:49] <popey> Unix_n_Coffee: in fact that's what I'm using right now
[11:49] <backz> TheGateKeeper, I've dapper (main, restricted, universe, multiverse), dapper-updates (main, restricted, universe, multiverse), dapper-security (main, restricted...) and dapper-commercial (main)
[11:49] <Tux> how do ytou install a binary file?
[11:49] <Tux> how do you install a binary file?
[11:49] <mwe> Tux: dont repeat
[11:49] <mwe> Tux: dont repeat
[11:49] <mwe> Tux: dont repeat
[11:49] <Tux> my bad
[11:49] <Spec> mwe: don't repeat
[11:49] <popey> Tux: what binary file?
[11:49] <Unix_n_Coffee> popey so he wouldnt have to use the dsl account name and password anymore?
[11:50] <backz> TheGateKeeper, yes, build-essential installed.
[11:50] <mwe> Spec: :)
[11:50] <popey> Unix_n_Coffee: the modem should have that detail
[11:50] <Spec> mwe: and spell don't correctly =P
[11:50] <Tux> does anyone know?
[11:50] <popey> Tux: what binary file?
[11:50] <Spec> Tutter: install <file> /usr/local/bin
[11:50] <popey> Tux: what are you trying to install?
[11:50] <Unix_n_Coffee> modem in windows makes you dial in
[11:50] <Spec> sorry, that was for Tux
[11:50] <Tux> im trying to install...
[11:50] <azureal> mwe: don't repeat =P
[11:50] <Tux> targetware
[11:50] <popey> Unix_n_Coffee: dsl modem?
[11:50] <Spec> azureal: i beat you
[11:50] <smacky> help plz what verison of yahoo messager do i install for ubuntu desktop
[11:50] <mwe> azureal: ;)
[11:50] <Unix_n_Coffee> yes dsl modem
[11:50] <popey> smacky: use GAIM
[11:50] <Unix_n_Coffee> its a spreedstream
[11:51] <azureal> Spec: i'm just repeating =)
[11:51] <Spec> hehe
[11:51] <Unix_n_Coffee> http://images.google.com/images?hs=IvH&hl=en&lr=&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&q=speedstream&btnG=Search&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
[11:51] <smacky> thx popey
[11:51] <popey> Unix_n_Coffee: in which case the user credentials are stored in the modem
[11:51] <Tux> file:///home/falco/targetware
[11:51] <mwe> azureal: don't repeat
[11:51] <azureal> rofl
[11:51] <Unix_n_Coffee> popey so i should be all set?
[11:51] <Spec> mwe, azureal: damnit, i said please don't repeat. thanks.
[11:51] <popey> Unix_n_Coffee: if the modem has already been proven to work, you should just be able to plug a pc into it and it continue to work, yes
[11:51] <Spec> :p
[11:51] <Tux> can anyone help?
[11:52] <mwe> Tux: what is it?
[11:52] <mwe> Tux: the file
[11:52] <Spec> Tux: not enough information
[11:52] <Unix_n_Coffee> im on a wireless connection :)... my friend wants to try ubuntu.... thanks popey! :)
[11:52] <Tux> what do u mean?
[11:52] <Spec> Tux: open up a terminal and type "file /home/falco/targetware"
[11:52] <popey> Unix_n_Coffee: no problem
[11:52] <mwe> Tux: what is it supposed to install?
[11:52] <popey> Tux: a flight sim?
[11:53] <Unix_n_Coffee> just makes me wonder popey why windows wants the account name and password for a new connection
[11:53] <Tux> yeah
[11:53] <Tux> a sim
[11:53] <Tux> flight
[11:53] <Unix_n_Coffee> with a LAN its not needed
[11:53] <popey> Unix_n_Coffee: definately ethernet?
[11:53] <popey> Unix_n_Coffee: yeah, not needed for a lan, very odd
[11:53] <Tux> can i talk to u guys in a non occupied channel?
[11:53] <mitch_> whoppix, glad to help.
[11:53] <mwe> Tux: be care running random .bin files
[11:53] <azureal> i've just been wondering... how do i get a list of xine fonts, for example?  (xlsfonts is not it, and the families in xfontsel don't contain 'sans', so it can't be there either)
[11:53] <mwe> Tux: chmod +x file.bin then sudo ./file.bin
[11:53] <Tux> what?
[11:53] <popey> mwe: it's not "random", it's an app
[11:53] <Tux> one sec
[11:54] <goonies> can someone please tell me how can i clear my dns cache, theres some things i can connect to online and some things i cant =\
[11:54] <azureal> yea, linux does not like .bin for the most part
[11:54] <Spec> goonies: in firefox?
[11:54] <goonies> well
[11:54] <goonies> everywhere
[11:54] <TheGateKeeper> backz: hmmm don't know apt-cache libxfixes-dev returns info for me how about you?
[11:54] <Spec> what caches dns?
[11:54] <Unix_n_Coffee> well there isnt a router or hub its just a NIC cable port 1 single one has option to connect to a hub or directly to pc , doing directly to pc will ask for a password and account name in windows
[11:54] <Tux> wait
[11:54] <vbgunz> How do you clear a DCRW with Nautilus? I could have sworn I was able to do this... Can someone help me out!?
[11:54] <mwe> popey: I think it's appropiate to issue a warning though
[11:54] <goonies> maybe router, maybe system, beats me =\ tried lots of things already
[11:54] <popey> mwe: sure, but he's told us what it is
[11:55] <popey> mwe: might download and install myself, looks neat :)
[11:55] <mwe> popey: I missed it, what is it then?
[11:55] <Unix_n_Coffee> well ubuntu has a live verson ...we can see if it conencts then and there :)
[11:55] <Boj> What is the name of the default font in Ubuntu?
[11:55] <popey> mwe: http://www.targetware.net/
[11:55] <backz> TheGateKeeper, http://rafb.net/paste/results/V6Ie6e57.html - apt-cache search libxfixes-dev returns: libxfixes-dev - X11 miscellaneous 'fixes' extension library (development headers)
[11:55] <popey> Unix_n_Coffee: yeah, give that a go
[11:55] <Tux> hey guys?
[11:55] <Unix_n_Coffee> thanks popey! :)
[11:55] <Tux> it's an...
[11:56] <vbgunz> how do i clear a CD-RW in nautilus?
[11:56] <Tux> its a .tgz file
[11:56] <Tux> what do i do?
[11:56] <popey> Tux: I am downloading it now, will tell you in a moment
[11:56] <Tux> thanks
[11:56] <mwe> popey: it does indeed look cool at a first impression at least
[11:56] <Subhuman> Tux, "tar -xvzf filename"
[11:56] <LDZ420> can someone help me import my old firefox bookmarks file back into firefox?
[11:57] <popey> Tux: open a terminal and run "tar zxvf tw_063_lnx.tgz"  if that's the name of the file
[11:57] <Tux> ok
[11:57] <shiv> how do I upgrade from ubuntu 6.06 to 6.06.1
[11:57] <popey> Tux: that will uncompress the contents - like unzipping
[11:57] <Spec> err, apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[11:57] <popey> shiv: there's a 6.06.1!?
[11:57] <Subhuman> shiv, theres no such version as 6.06.1
[11:57] <shiv> hold on
[11:57] <Subhuman> shiv, the "version" numbers are dates
[11:57] <shiv> it shows on distrowatch
[11:58] <NthDegree> there's a 6.10 methinks
[11:58] <Subhuman> 6th month, 2006.
[11:58] <Subhuman> next release
[11:58] <Tux> this is what i got
[11:58] <Tux> Subhuman next release
[11:58] <Tux> oops
[11:58] <Subhuman> is the 10th month, 2006, so therfore 06.10
[11:58] <Tux> tar: tw_063_lnx.tgz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[11:58] <Tux> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[11:58] <Tux> tar: Child returned status 2
[11:58] <Tux> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[11:58] <cerda> anyone who uses kguitar or tuxguitar???
[11:58] <Spec> http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06.1/
[11:58] <shiv> see here http://distrowatch.com/
[11:58] <mwe> Tux: it's not a .bin file
[11:58] <TheGateKeeper> backz: sorry don't know :-(
[11:58] <popey> Tux: what is the tgz file called you have?
[11:58] <backz> TheGateKeeper, thank u =)
[11:58] <Tux> tw_063_lnx.tgz
[11:58] <Subhuman> ahh shiv
[11:59] <mwe> Tux: tar ztvf file.tgz too see what it provides
[11:59] <ych> yay twinview :D
[11:59] <Subhuman> thats jus the download with the current updates
[11:59] <Tux> for file do i put the file name?
[11:59] <vbgunz> anyone know how to clear a cd-wr in nautilus?
[11:59] <Subhuman> as long as you use update manager youll be using .1
[11:59] <popey> ych: stoppit! I'll have to buy another screen!
[11:59] <popey> :)
[11:59] <Tux> for "file" do i put the file name?
[11:59] <Subhuman> vbgunz, can you not jus delete them?
[11:59] <Subhuman> Tux, yes
[11:59] <ych> unfortunately my video card only allows 2 screens at a time, otherwise i'd be running 2 :)
[11:59] <vbgunz> Subhuman: I tried... I couldn't :(
[11:59] <Tux> ok
[11:59] <ych> 3 i mean
[12:00] <ych> 2 monitors and a tv
[12:00] <TheGateKeeper> backz: I just waisted your time sorry, hopefully someone will be in a better position to help, especially if you can find a developer :-(
[12:00] <ych> but oh well
[12:00] <Tux> ar: tw_063_lnx.tgz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[12:00] <Tux> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[12:00] <Tux> tar: Child returned status 2
[12:00] <Tux> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[12:00] <Tux> all i got
[12:00] <mwe> Tux: it's not present in your working dir
[12:00] <mwe> Tux: type ls
[12:00] <Tux> ok
[12:00] <Consty> When a wireless access point has a ' in it, I believe its conflicting and having a problem connecting.  Anyone know a way around this problem?
[12:00] <Tux> ok
[12:00] <mwe> Tux: where did you download it to?
[12:01] <Melio> the word "ok" is emo
[12:01] <backz> TheGateKeeper, np man! thank u for your patience... I only need to compile gnucash to try it... thank u =)