[12:09] <seaLne> cat /proc/cpuinfo maybe?
[12:10] <DaSkreech> seaLne: That gives me a number
[12:10] <DaSkreech>  6
[12:11] <DaSkreech> For someone uninformed that doesn't elict Ohhhh I have a Sempron
[12:11] <DaSkreech>  Or Waht I have a Athlon I've Been Gypped@@!
[12:17] <seaLne> imbrandon: i've not had much success trying to get dcfldd into debian with lack of interest on debian-mentors yet uncle steve said that was the way to do it
[12:18] <imbrandon> seaLne: same here , but i did get a DD to email me
[12:18] <imbrandon> just nothing after that
[12:18] <imbrandon> lol
[12:18] <imbrandon> thus my reluctance about the kde-extras , my debian experince hasent been the best
[12:19] <seaLne> yeah i submitted a patch for a package pre sarge but instead the package was removed from sarge, and i needed it for labs
[12:27] <imbrandon> heh that sucks
[12:35] <DaSkreech> imbrandon: Whats your output on uname -p ?
[12:36] <imbrandon> unknown
[12:36] <DaSkreech> Hmm Seems to be universal
[12:36] <DaSkreech>  Is there a way to fix that?
[12:40] <allee> seaLne, imbrandon: if case noone (ignores) upload to debian, change version to 0kubuntu1 and ping the universe-upload-team.  DD's can do 'dch -i' later or never (that would be a pity)
[12:41] <Hobbsee> warning, i have to leave soon
[12:41] <imbrandon> allee: i can upload i'm a motu , thats not the problem, its getting it into UNSTABLE ;)
[12:42] <Hobbsee> allee: no idea?  there's irc and email.
[01:03] <seaLne> imbrandon: i couldn't get k3b to compile in edgy couldn't find QT
[01:04] <imbrandon> seaLne: i'll try later tonight or early in the morning
[01:04] <imbrandon> whats your source url again ?
[01:04] <seaLne> but i also couldn't build kopete which Riddell built fine
[01:04] <seaLne> http://geeksoc.org/~kd/k3b/
[01:04] <imbrandon> kk
[01:08] <imbrandon> seaLne: building now, we'll see how it go's if it builds i'll upload it
[01:14] <bddebian> Howdy
[01:17] <Hobbsee> eek...breakage :(
[01:17] <DaSkreech> :-)
[01:17] <bddebian> Hi Hobbsee, DaSkreech
[01:17] <Hobbsee> hi bddebian 
[01:17] <DaSkreech> Hello bddebian
[01:22] <seaLne> nn
[01:22] <Hobbsee> yay.  less breakage
[01:22] <DaSkreech> sebas: Continue convo here :)
[01:22] <sebas> Sure. Good night! ;-)
[01:22] <sebas> gnight all, I'm on CEST and becoming tired.
[01:23] <imbrandon> heya bddebian
[01:23] <DaSkreech> Night :)
[01:24] <imbrandon> Riddell: ohh before you go , did ktorrent make it in ( probably is too late )
[01:25] <imbrandon> bye Hobbsee
[01:25] <bddebian> Hi imbrandon
[01:25] <Hobbsee> no time for brekafast :(
[01:30] <imbrandon> Sime: ping 
[01:32] <imbrandon> seaLne: yea it ftb not finding QT, i'll look at it a bit more later when i have some time
[01:32] <imbrandon> ( k3b pre1 )
[01:40] <DaSkreech> MMM Bluray :)
[01:40] <DaSkreech> k3b has Bluray support now
[01:40] <DaSkreech> Wonder how he tested taht
[01:40] <DaSkreech> that
[01:42] <imbrandon> you mean developers test code ?
[01:42] <imbrandon> wow
[01:45] <omeow> Can anyone tell me what the green orb in the statusbar of konvi is supposed to do/reflect? http://omeow.ath.cx/konvi.png
[01:46] <omeow> Apparently it's added by kubuntu? Other linux distributions running KDE don't have it.
[01:46] <omeow> And I can't interact with it, or use the "what's this" function.
[01:53] <imbrandon> omeow: that png 404's but in any case i dont see any gree orbs
[01:55] <imbrandon> have a look at the default kubuntu konversation screen shot for dapper here http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/screenshots/snapshot2.png
[01:55] <imbrandon> if its diffrent then that you have issues
[01:56] <omeow> imbrandon, sorry I meant http://omeow.ath.cx/konq.png
[01:57] <imbrandon> hrm looking at mine
[01:57] <imbrandon> i dont see it there either
[01:57] <imbrandon> [18:50]  <luyt> Regarding the GREEN ORB in Konqueror: it means it is the active pane... try splitting the view
[02:02] <omeow> I meant konqueror, imbrandon. :)
[02:02] <imbrandon> [18:50]  <luyt> Regarding the GREEN ORB in Konqueror: it means it is the active pane... try splitting the view
[02:02] <nixternal> imbrandon: ktorrent made it in if you hadn't see it yet ;)
[02:03] <imbrandon> nixternal: yea i seen it
[02:03] <nixternal> kool
[02:03] <omeow> imbrandon, yes, I noticed already. :)
[02:03] <nixternal> eatin' time
[02:03] <omeow> and you definitely need some yakuake...
[02:04] <imbrandon> i hate yakyuke ;)
[02:05] <omeow> How come?
[02:05] <imbrandon> becosue i cant move it arround my screen when i want to
[02:05] <imbrandon> i dont like things "stuck"
[02:06] <omeow> Why do you want to move around your terminal?
[02:06] <omeow> things being stuck is the new you... it's trendy! =P
[02:06] <imbrandon> becosue i often have 3 or 4 or 5 open next to each other
[02:07] <imbrandon> compaing things
[02:07] <DaSkreech> imbrandon: Huh?
[02:07] <omeow> Ok.
[02:07] <DaSkreech> Oh you mean visually :)
[02:07] <imbrandon> that and i use 2 some times 3 monitors and i move it between them at will
[02:08] <DaSkreech> When someone sells me on the benefits of multiple monitors for programming I'll look into it
[02:09] <imbrandon> irc on one, mail web on another , terminals on a third
[02:09] <imbrandon> done
[02:09] <DaSkreech> Why do you need to watch mail web?
[02:10] <DaSkreech> and I normally have aterminals audibly ping me when stuff is done if it's important
[02:10] <imbrandon> DaSkreech: i'm constantly checking my mail and looking something up on the web
[02:10] <DaSkreech> imbrandon: I guess :)
[02:10] <imbrandon> http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/misc/workzone.jpg
[02:12] <DaSkreech> You just had this sitting around?
[02:12] <imbrandon> had what ? the pic ?
[02:12] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[02:12] <imbrandon> yea its been on my webserver a few weeks
[02:13] <imbrandon> workzone.jpg            23-Jul-2006 22:01   979k
[02:13] <DaSkreech> It's sad that I'm fascianted by the mouse :-(
[02:13] <imbrandon> lol
[02:14] <DaSkreech> Oooh MacBook
[02:14] <DaSkreech> No wait iBook
[02:14] <imbrandon> ibook
[02:15] <DaSkreech> The monitor is off :-P
[02:15] <DaSkreech>  I win :)
[02:15] <imbrandon> i wasent "working" ;P i win ;P
[02:16] <DaSkreech> That's no reason not to bask in electrons
[02:17] <DaSkreech> Oh someone asked about the changelog in the 6.06.1 in the meeting that wasn't addressed was it?
[02:17] <imbrandon> yes it was, and a change log for a whole distro ?
[02:18] <imbrandon> or the announce list
[02:18] <DaSkreech> Well I only really care about the changelog for k-d
[02:18] <DaSkreech> why can't I pull that with apt-listchanges :-P
[02:18] <imbrandon> so go read it ;)
[02:19] <imbrandon> as the apt-listchanges dev's
[02:19] <imbrandon> heh
[02:19] <DaSkreech> mornfall asked me to remind him about it in adept next year :-(
[02:20] <imbrandon> exactly
[02:20] <imbrandon> is it realy that hard to goto http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/k/kubuntu-meta/kubuntu-meta_1.4/changelog
[02:21] <imbrandon> anyhow afk working
[02:22] <DaSkreech> Yes :-)
[02:55] <nixternal> [19:06]  <imbrandon> becosue i often have 3 or 4 or 5 open next to each other
[02:55] <nixternal> time for emacs budd
[02:55] <imbrandon> ewww no
[02:55] <nixternal> oh ya, it is all about emacs
[02:55] <nixternal> 5 minutes til motu school?
[02:59] <imbrandon> wb freeflying
[02:59] <freeflying> imbrandon: hi
[02:59] <imbrandon> ktorrent 2.0 is uploaded, probably still in the que on the buildd's
[02:59] <imbrandon> just FYI ;)
[03:01] <freeflying> nice, I will try soon
[03:11] <DaSkreech> Who is in charge of Firefox?
[03:11] <bddebian> Mozilla
[03:12] <imbrandon> heh
[03:13] <DaSkreech> ok
[03:13] <imbrandon> iwj iirc , look at the changelog/maintainer
[03:13] <DaSkreech> Yeah I'm installing right now gimmie a few
[03:13] <DaSkreech>  There is no seamonkey debs in the repos :(
[03:16] <DaSkreech> Oh wait I can still browse the files
[03:16] <DaSkreech>  /me hugs adept muchly
[05:10] <Hobbsee> all right.  if anyone's emailed me anything vaguely important that i need to remember about in the next while, please email it to me again.
[05:11] <DaSkreech> Hi Hobbsee
[05:11] <Hobbsee> hi DaSkreech 
[05:11] <DaSkreech> Deleted all of your mail?
[05:12] <Hobbsee> and a whole lot of other configs
[05:12] <DaSkreech> how?
[05:12] <Hobbsee> at least i got a copy of .gnupg and .bashrc
[05:12] <Hobbsee> played with rm -rf a bit during the meeting
[05:12] <Hobbsee> they were my comments of "oh no, breakage"
[05:13] <DaSkreech> I saw that I assumed you were compiling something
[05:13] <Hobbsee> only in the home dir, after backing up
[05:13] <Hobbsee> i missed a couple of folders though :P
[05:13] <Hobbsee> no, i do that in pbuilder, so dont really care
[05:24] <nixternal> imbrandon: i just did an update on my edgy lappy, and ktorrent crapped out on dpkg
[05:25] <imbrandon> yea
[05:25] <imbrandon> i'm fixing it now
[05:25] <nixternal> ok..kool
[05:25] <nixternal> just wanted to make sure you knew
[05:25] <imbrandon> trying to overwrite `/usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-bittorrent.desktop', which is also in package kdelibs-data
[05:25] <imbrandon> ^^ like that right ?
[05:25] <nixternal> im trying to figure out why 'debuilder -S' doesn't like my gpg stuff
[05:26] <imbrandon> debuild -S -sa
[05:26] <nixternal> ya, that works fine
[05:26] <nixternal> debuild -S -sa -rfakeroot -k<mykey>
[05:26] <nixternal> works like a charm
[05:26] <imbrandon> then your golden
[05:27] <nixternal> silver or chrome at least ;)
[07:36] <imbrandon> Riddell: if you read this before i wake up I got Sime's patches and set kdebase and kdelibs to build , i'm off to bed, when i wake i'll upload them somewhere and we can test
[08:20] <seaLne> imbrandon: ok in some ways it ftb is good i was confused when hobbsee managed
[08:21] <seaLne> becuase i got it to ftb on 2 different machines
[09:41] <freeflying> when I try "translate this application" in kde apllications, it will use firefox ,but not the konqueror, is this a bug?
[09:57] <sebas> Aah, the girls!
[09:57] <sebas> Moin Hobbsee & el
[09:58] <Hobbsee> hi sebas 
[09:58] <el> moin sebas 
[09:58] <el> hi Hobbsee 
[09:58] <Hobbsee> hi el :)
[10:28] <seaLne> Hobbsee: offers of millions of dollars?
[10:30] <nixternal> Hobbsee: your email stuff you lost
[10:30] <nixternal> you use gmail?
[10:31] <nixternal> do you have it set to "archive" all mail after it is downloaded to client?
[11:33] <Hobbsee> ah ha.  i've just found one solution to the "kde menus dont update bug"
[11:40] <Riddell> oh?
[11:41] <Hobbsee> Riddell: run kappfinder.
[11:41] <Hobbsee> something's finally gone right today.  yay.
[11:41] <Riddell> yes, that'll run kbuildsycoca
[11:41] <Hobbsee> Riddell: i tried running kbuildsycoca manually, and it didtn help
[11:43] <Riddell> curious
[11:44] <Hobbsee> very
[11:46] <Riddell> eek
[11:47] <Hobbsee> Riddell: yeah, eek. so far, it seems that i've lost about 2 months of email.  i've still got most other bits it seems
[12:04] <Hobbsee> hi imbrandon_
[12:05] <Hobbsee> who changed the fonts to be "light" instead of regular?  assuming they're supposed to be deja-vu sans
[12:15] <Hobbsee> Riddell: good job with ubiquity
[12:44] <Hobbsee> Riddell: very nice work with ubiquity.  it even detects which kernel to use!
[01:11] <Riddell> Hobbsee: it does?
[01:11] <Riddell> hi serzholino 
[01:11] <serzholino> Riddell: !
[01:11] <Hobbsee> Riddell: it detected -686
[01:11] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: that should be default on the live cd now
[01:12] <Hobbsee> ah right
[01:13] <Riddell> Hobbsee: which CD?
[01:13] <Hobbsee> Riddell: knot 1 kubuntu desktop
[01:46] <seaLne> Riddell: interested in a Sun Blade 100 to add sparc to your hardware collection? :)
[01:58] <Riddell> seaLne: totally
[01:59] <seaLne> Riddell: that a yes?
[01:59] <Riddell> seaLne: it is
[01:59] <seaLne> cool
[02:00] <seaLne> do yu want a monitor (crt)?
[02:01] <Riddell> nah, only have space for one monitor in my server room (cupboard)
[02:01] <seaLne> k, its standard vga connector anyway
[03:46] <Hobbsee> nixternal: the next release thing that you do.  you can talk about amarok 1.4.1 being in edgy, and the install mp3 script working now.
[03:51] <bddebian> Howdy
[03:57] <Hobbsee> hi bddebian 
[03:57] <bddebian> Hi Hobbsee
 nixternal: the next release thing that you do.  you can talk about amarok 1.4.1 being in edgy, and the install mp3 script working now.
[05:42] <nixternal> i can add that now to the release page if it is in there now ;)
[06:21] <seaLne> releases.ubuntu.com down?
[07:16] <yuriy> ooh my desktop has a 50% charged battery with 10 minutes of life :D
[07:31] <DaSkreech> Is there a Hebrew channel?
[07:32] <lnxkde> DaSkreech, !*%*$#&\
[07:36] <DaSkreech> Yeah I totally agree
[07:47] <nixternal> ok..so i grab an Edgy daily build .iso here 15 minutes back...i burn it and what not...mind you, i am thinking the whole time i grabbed it from one of the links in the edgy knot 1 announcement..so i burn it, put it on my other computer, boot up, walk away for a minute..come back to a brown window ;)
[07:47] <nixternal> wrong DE ;)
[07:48] <DaSkreech> apt-get install :)
[07:48] <nixternal> lol
[07:48] <nixternal> i might dual boot this other system..i think i want to give regular ol' Ubuntu a run.
[07:49] <nixternal> i feels useless at times pretty much beeing DE dependent
[07:49] <nixternal> s/feels/feel
[07:49] <DaSkreech> Oh then just install the server and you'll be fine
[07:49] <nixternal> lol
[07:49] <nixternal> i have the server running on another setup
[07:51] <nixternal> after thinking about it, right now isn't the time..i have to do kubuntu related stuff ;)
[07:59] <DaSkreech> :-)
[08:16] <nixternal> daily builds, live cd?  installer crashes ;(
[08:18] <seaLne> 0807 wouldn't install for me
[08:19] <nixternal> 0811 same
[08:19] <nixternal> im dl'n the alternate cd, which is what i meant to grab earlier..but i had /daily-live/ in my url ;)
[08:51] <nixternal> sweet work with the "http proxy" work for "apt mirrors"
[09:59] <nixternal> im telling you what, i really do like the colors of Edgy..i have it up on a 32" LCD and it is lovely
[10:00] <nixternal> hehe
[10:00] <nixternal> oh, that lcd isn't mine at all
[10:00] <DaSkreech> I don't want to hear about Edgy now
[10:00] <nixternal> im building a system for a friend and i had to check out edgy on it
[10:01] <nixternal> rofl
[10:01] <nixternal> i don't get the "laptop power battery" on my PC though
[10:01] <nixternal> only battery is the bios battery, and last i checked, you couldn't monitor those
[10:01] <DaSkreech>  My power company blew two of my hard drives two days ago and now I have no space so I can't even think of a Edgy partition
[10:01] <nixternal> ouch
[10:02] <nixternal> i need to take this system, which i have raid0 config, break the raid, take one of the drives, stick it in my other system for more space..and take the drive out that system, and put it in my old server, so i can setup imap love
[10:02] <DaSkreech> Of course the funny thing is at the time iwas working on a project to manage projects for the power company so that they can better be able to stop doing stuff like that to the island
[10:02] <nixternal> lol
[10:06] <imbrandon> Riddell: ping
[10:11] <imbrandon> Sime: ping also
[10:13] <imbrandon_> gah
[10:13] <imbrandon_> i hate that 
[10:13] <imbrandon_> Riddell / Sime : ping
[10:13] <nixternal> lol
[10:29] <imbrandon_> nixternal: feeling lucky ?
[10:32] <DaSkreech> punk?
[10:36] <Riddell> imbrandon_: hi
[10:49] <nixternal> whats up imbrandon?
[10:49] <imbrandon> hold on
[10:50] <imbrandon> wanna try simes patches? i finished the upload
[10:51] <nixternal> heh, i have a brand new edgy install waiting to get hosed up
[10:52] <imbrandon> heh ok here is a good way to do it, untested code, i think i';m the only person besides sime to install it so far
[10:52] <imbrandon> deb http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/packages/simes-patches/debs/ ./
[10:52] <imbrandon> ^^ try that
[10:52] <imbrandon> and dist-upgrade
[10:52] <nixternal> is it broke at all?
[10:52] <imbrandon> nah seems fine so far but i've only tested a whole 5 minutes
[10:53] <nixternal> heh
[10:53] <nixternal> here we go
[10:57] <nixternal> you know the packages won't authenticate correct?
[10:57] <imbrandon> yea 
[10:57] <nixternal> how many of these packages are root kits ;)
[10:57] <imbrandon> i dident sign the repo
[10:57] <imbrandon> no real need , its only for internal testing
[10:57] <imbrandon> for us in here
[10:57] <nixternal> Errrror:  Your computer is ...
[10:57] <nixternal> oops
[10:58] <imbrandon> once it go's past that Riddell will upload in edgy if they seem ok
[11:00] <toma> Riddell: likeback would get some feedback people would normally not give
[11:00] <nixternal> hmmm
[11:00] <imbrandon> heya toma
[11:01] <toma> hey imbrando
[11:01] <toma> hey imbrandon
[11:01] <nixternal> ok imbrando, what do i need to test
[11:01] <nixternal> haha
[11:01] <nixternal> like mr. brando himself
[11:01] <imbrandon> haha you can read on simes blog about what all it changes
[11:02] <toma> imbrandon: do you have packages?
[11:02] <imbrandon> toma yea i just finished uploading them
[11:02] <toma> where is that?
[11:02] <imbrandon> toma : deb http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/packages/simes-patches/debs/ ./
[11:02] <imbrandon> or just goto that url and 
[11:02] <imbrandon> grab the debs
[11:03] <imbrandon> either way 
[11:03] <imbrandon> patches and source one dir above that if you want it
[11:04] <imbrandon> nixternal: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2231 <-- to read about it
[11:04] <toma> imbrandon: oki, installing
[11:05] <imbrandon> kk like i said i JUST uploaded them and testing myself
[11:05] <imbrandon> only had them installed 5 or 10 minutes here myself
[11:05] <imbrandon> heh
[11:05] <toma> imbrandon: kdelibs + kebase?
[11:05] <imbrandon> yea
[11:05] <imbrandon> but it builds all those
[11:06] <imbrandon> ouch i already get one error myself but i think i did it
[11:08] <nixternal> 31 seconds
[11:09] <nixternal> im sorry, you can't do that anywhere else..31 seconds is impossible to achieve
[11:09] <imbrandon> huh ?
[11:09] <nixternal> and the computer at question is an old amd t-bird 1.4ghz with 512mb of ram
[11:09] <nixternal> i rebooted it in 31 seconds, to desktop, after login
[11:10] <imbrandon> i'm missing your point
[11:10] <nixternal> twice..first time was 30, second was 31
[11:10] <imbrandon> twice WHAT !
[11:10] <imbrandon> you arent making sense
[11:10] <nixternal> rebooting Edgy, up to date, took me 30-31 seconds, from pressing "restart" to "logging in" and getting to the desktop
[11:11] <imbrandon> oh , and ? .... did i miss something ?
[11:11] <nixternal> umm..dapper takes 31 seconds to boot
[11:11] <nixternal> this was a RE boot
[11:11] <imbrandon> ok ..... i'm STILL failing to see a point here
[11:11] <nixternal> IT IS FAST SILLY
[11:11] <nixternal> ;)
[11:12] <nixternal> the initrd fixes are working i think ;)
[11:12] <imbrandon> oh jesus i wasted my time trying to figure that jibberish out
[11:12] <imbrandon> heh
[11:12] <DaSkreech> :-)
[11:12] <nixternal> ok, i don't have hda1 in /media at all
[11:19] <nixternal> imbrandon: i am getting a lot of Konqi errors
[11:19] <nixternal> Cannot find parent item file:///home in the tree. Internal error.
[11:19] <imbrandon> told you it was untested code
[11:19] <imbrandon> yea i get that too
[11:19] <nixternal> i click, and then it works
[11:19] <nixternal> click ok*
[11:20] <nixternal> i would like that "tree" view when i give the system:/ url as well ;)
[11:31] <toma> imbrandon: does not seem to work for me
[11:32] <toma> imbrandon: but i'm not sure i installed all that is needed
[11:32] <imbrandon> toma: me either, well it half works
[11:32] <imbrandon> ther seems to be some bugs
[11:32] <nixternal> i wouldn't go with half, i would go with "to an extent"
[11:32] <nixternal> but i really like the direction of the patch
[11:33] <toma> imbrandon: i still see all /* folders
[11:33] <imbrandon> nixternal: how can you tell 3/4 if not more ( the system tab ) isnt showing up , as you called it the "treeeview"
[11:33] <nixternal> toma:  system;/
[11:33] <nixternal> in the url
[11:33] <imbrandon> toma: thats becouse you have no .hidden file
[11:33] <imbrandon> nixternal: no
[11:33] <nixternal> oh
[11:33] <imbrandon> that the old kio slave
[11:33] <nixternal> hehe
[11:34] <nixternal> i didn't catch that
[11:34] <nixternal> what is the old kio slave?
[11:34] <nixternal> i got lost a little here
[11:35] <imbrandon> you said the system:/
[11:35] <nixternal> ok...now after rebooting since i grabbed the k7 kernel.
[11:35] <nixternal> ok, what is the new then?
[11:35] <nixternal> media:/
[11:35] <nixternal> yes
[11:35] <imbrandon> did you even read the blog nixternal?
[11:35] <nixternal> yup
[11:36] <nixternal> i just noticed the media:/
[11:36] <nixternal> hehe
[11:36] <imbrandon> its NOT media:/ either
[11:36] <imbrandon> jesus
[11:36] <imbrandon> ok i'm gonna go work on this a bit, nixternal read the post again ;)
[11:37] <imbrandon> system:/ and media:/ are kio-slaves that he took the functions from
[11:37] <toma> imbrandon: so i make a .hidden where?
[11:37] <nixternal> i got that, im trying to get the view he is showing..that is why i typed what i did
[11:37] <imbrandon> toma: in the / but i dont know the syntax i'm gonna have to poke Sime about it
[11:38] <imbrandon> nixternal: well what he is showing is on the system TAB with /media showing
[11:38] <imbrandon> if thats what you mean
[11:38] <imbrandon>  /media != media:/
[11:39] <imbrandon> toma: yea it seems there are a few things missing for the "whole" package
[11:40] <imbrandon> i'll poke Sime about it later more when he is arround
[11:40] <imbrandon> and or Riddell ( if he knows anything )
[11:48] <toma> imbrandon: i give up
[11:49] <imbrandon> heh
[11:52] <imbrandon> hrm basicly it boils down to at the moment point 1 and 5 are not working 
[11:53] <imbrandon> the rest i seem to get to work as expected
[12:08] <ryanakca> Riddell: I saw your blog entry... Where did you get that purple kde theme?
[12:09] <ryanakca> or wait... he's out in the UK iirc... 18:00+5... almost midnight... I'll bug him in the morning
[12:10] <imbrandon> ryanakca: thats edgy default