[12:08] <josie> i've just installed kubuntu, and whenever i try to change system settings, go into administrator mode, etc. i get "conversion with su failed"
[12:08] <freestyler> stuff this then you are all a bunch of geekos
[12:08] <josie> after i enter the password
[12:08] <josie> i've tried entering root and mine
[12:08] <wolfmanz> 63
[12:08] <freestyler> i have had kubuntu for agessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
[12:09] <doppelganger_> josie-  weird
[12:09] <doppelganger_> caps lock?  lawl
[12:09] <doppelganger_> i dunno
[12:09] <josie> heh
[12:09] <doppelganger_> ;P
[12:10] <doppelganger_> try making a new account with a new password
[12:10] <aliasfred> jimmy: i would simply create a user.
[12:10] <josie> doppelganger_: ok
[12:10] <freestyler> can anyone hear me
[12:10] <doppelganger_> josie: i guess, unless anyone else has a clue
[12:10] <aliasfred> jimmy: there is 'adduser' or some gui i dont remember the name of
[12:10] <aliasfred> freestyler: it is not much of a chat channel :) more like 'helping channel about kubuntu'
[12:11] <jimmy> thanks
[12:12] <freestyler> can you get me to a chat channel
[12:12] <scast> aliasfred: kuser?
[12:12] <scast> nvm
[12:12] <scast> lol
[12:13] <josie> doppelganger_: i've gotta be in the admin group to su?
[12:13] <scast> Is not by default in kubuntu --- weird.
[12:13] <aliasfred> scast: maybe... those kind of stuff i find them while wandering the menu
[12:13] <doppelganger_> josie: nvm, i've got my head up my arse
[12:13] <doppelganger_> it's past 5, my brain has stopped working
[12:13] <josie> doppelganger_: heh
[12:13] <aliasfred> freestyler: well up to you to find one which suite you. you may try #chat or something
[12:13] <josie> doppelganger_: well i just tacked 'josie' to the end of the admin line in /etc/group and evreything works
[12:14] <doppelganger_> josie: marry me.
[12:14] <josie> doppelganger_: :P
[12:14] <doppelganger_> XD   good work
[12:14] <doppelganger_> ;)
[12:14] <freestyler> ok thanks
[12:14] <linkinpark342> Does anyone happen to be very intimately familiar with ATi MergedFB?
[12:14] <scast> kcron is sweet :o
[12:14] <linkinpark342> or if XGl is possible with Xinerama, either one
[12:16] <freestyler> does anyone know how to get a webcam workin so it is possible to take pictures on linux? cause I just don't know how to get it
[12:16] <Chousuke> freestyler: you need a supported webcam first.
[12:17] <doppelganger_> home and liquid cocaine frozen drinkage here i come. Be back in 30  8)
[12:18] <Chousuke> then you can search APT for some tools that allow you to take pics with a webcam.
[12:21] <wolfmanz> anyone here running ardour under kubuntu?
[12:26] <giorgio> ciao
[12:27] <wind> hey i have a problem :(
[12:28] <mackan> erally
[12:28] <wind> kubuntu on my laptop won't load anymore
[12:28] <mackan> kubuntu <3
[12:28] <mackan> so, what happens?
[12:28] <wind> well it goes through the process then the kubuntu blue logo just sits there
[12:28] <wind> then othing happens
[12:28] <wind> n
[12:29] <wind> how do i fix it?
[12:29] <scast> is it a mac and you installed i386 on it?
[12:29] <wind> i386
[12:29] <scast> no idea then -_-
[12:29] <wind> i installed i386 on a sony vaio
[12:29] <wind> which used to run windows xp pro
[12:30] <wind> the last thing i did on the laptop before i rebooted was install dvdrip and watch a movie
[12:30] <mackan> weird
[12:31] <wind> anyone help?
[12:32] <freestyler> I have a supported webcam
[12:42] <steph> y a quelqun ?
[12:42] <steph> Lure c a Lure ?
[12:48] <wind> can anyone help me :(
[12:48] <home_> just installed kubuntu 6.0.6 audio worked on first logon, and not anymore, is there a way to get it back ?
[12:49] <home_> wind: what's up?
[12:49] <steph> audio with amarok  don't wors ??
[12:49] <wind> kubuntu won't boot on my laptop anymore
[12:49] <freestyler> redo the laptop
[12:49] <home_> no audio at all, kmix has an x
[12:50] <wind> it goes through the process of loading then the blue kubuntu screen sits there
[12:50] <jimmy> how can I add a user to a group from the command line?
[12:50] <home_> adduser I think
[12:50] <home_> as sudo
[12:50] <wind> how do i fix it
[12:51] <jimmy> that is for creating a user I believe
[12:51] <home_> wind is there files u need on the current install?
[12:51] <home_> jimmy, oh
[12:52] <freestyler> i need help
[12:52] <home_> I  know there's an also reconfigure command, just forgot it
[12:52] <home_> "alsa"
[12:52] <wind> np[e
[12:52] <wind> nope
[12:52] <freestyler> can anyone help me
[12:53] <wind> it was up and running fine last night
[12:53] <wind> the last thing i did before i rebooted was install dvdrip and watch a movie
[12:53] <wind> i reboot then it just started happening
[12:53] <wind> i try rebooting a couple times, same thing keeps happening
[12:54] <jimmy> wind, I jsut had that problem
[12:54] <jimmy> turned out my home directory was mysteriously erased
[12:54] <wind> how do i know if it is or not
[12:54] <jimmy> try starting up in recovery mode
[12:54] <wind> and how do i fix it
[12:54] <wind> done
[12:54] <wind> next?
[12:54] <jimmy> cd /home/USERNAME
[12:55] <jimmy> see if you can access it
[12:56] <wind> no such file or directory
[12:56] <jimmy> so its not just me!
[12:56] <wind> actually nm
[12:56] <jimmy> this happened to me about an hour ago after watching a video clip
[12:56] <wind> i forgot the / before home
[12:56] <jimmy> lol
[12:57] <jimmy> I am an outsider once again
[12:57] <wind> so i'm in /home/nan
[12:57] <jimmy> are there files?
[12:57] <wind> so what else could be the problem
[12:57] <jimmy> type ls
[12:57] <wind> yup
[12:57] <wind> desktop examples
[12:57] <jimmy> type startx, see if it gives erroes
[12:58] <jimmy> errors*
[12:58] <wind> uh lets see
[12:58] <wind> fatal server error: no screen found
[12:58] <jimmy> did you modify your xorg config file by any chace?
[12:58] <wind> not that i'm aware of
[12:58] <wind> and i don't even know what that is
[12:59] <jimmy> were there any other errors?
[12:59] <wind> XIO: fatal IO error 104
[12:59] <wind> (connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0"
[12:59] <wind> after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
[01:00] <farous> hi what are the  utils to mount linux network folders. I currently use fuse for mounting in userspace but was interested in knowing if there are other utils
[01:00] <jimmy> well, someone else is going to have to help you with that
[01:00] <wind> i did change my graphics card in display though
[01:00] <jimmy> I can troubleshoot minor xserver problems, but not this
[01:00] <jimmy> well now!
[01:00] <wind> :(
[01:00] <jimmy> there we go!
[01:00] <wind> anyone help?
[01:01] <freestyler> can anybody please help me out now :( I need it
[01:01] <jimmy> what kind of card do you have?
[01:01] <wind> ?
[01:01] <wind> no clue
[01:01] <wind> it's a built in one on the mobo i guess
[01:01] <jimmy> what did you change it to?
[01:01] <wind> intel i915 or something
[01:01] <wind> that's what it said was recommended
[01:01] <Hawkwind> freestyler: I've yet to see you ask a question.  If you state what you need/want help with, people would be more willing to help
[01:02] <wind> the default was something like i815
[01:02] <jimmy> oh, well I would think that that is probably what happened, that driver is not compatible with your video hardware
[01:02] <wind> which is why the kubuntu logo is just hanging when i reboot?
[01:02] <jimmy> yep
[01:02] <wind> how would i go about putting it back at default? :o
[01:03] <khmer> the live CD gets about 50 dots into loading /casper/initrd.gz and then reboots
[01:03] <khmer> safe graphics or no
[01:03] <doppelganger_> man, that woman can make a DRINK  ;)
[01:03] <khmer> memtest OK, cd test OK
[01:03] <khmer> what's wrong?
[01:03] <jimmy> you would have to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:03] <khmer> 6.06
[01:04] <jimmy> but I would not know what to change it to
[01:04] <wind> aw man
[01:04] <Gingillo> hi, i have a problem
[01:04] <khmer> anybody? bueller?
[01:04] <wind> is there anything on there that remotely looks like i815
[01:04] <freestyler> whats the problem
[01:04] <wind> or 851
[01:04] <jimmy> you can see it and edit it by typing "sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[01:05] <jimmy> make sure you hit your insert key if you want to edit
[01:05] <Gingillo> when i to install my version of kubuntu (the last one) the installation stops to "mounting root file system" and doesen't go on. I tryed to disconnect all my USB devices
[01:05] <Gingillo> but it didnt work
[01:05] <wind> i see a bunch of blue ~
[01:05] <jimmy> when you are done, hit escape, then type ":wq"
[01:05] <jimmy> really? no file?
[01:05] <wind> i guess?
[01:06] <khmer> see it's funny. you come in, you immediately ask your question, nobody pays attention
[01:06] <jimmy> type :q to exit
[01:06] <khmer> because without a greeting, there's no indication that you're making a general announcement
[01:06] <freestyler> what I would do is install a older version of it
[01:06] <wind> ok
[01:06] <jimmy> then type cd /etc/X11
[01:06] <Hawkwind> khmer: Why not try the alternate CD version instead
[01:06] <Gingillo> freestyler are you talking to me?
[01:06] <jimmy> then type ls, tell me if there is a file called xorg.conf
[01:06] <khmer> Hawkwind: because waaaaaaaah, that's why
[01:06] <wind> ok
[01:07] <khmer> i want it to work
[01:07] <wind> xorg.conf and xorg.conf.1
[01:07] <Hawkwind> khmer: Probably a bad download.  Did you md5sum the downloaded ISO file ?
[01:07] <Gingillo> ok i'll reask my question
[01:07] <jimmy> weird, mybe you had a typo
[01:07] <Gingillo> when i try to install my version of kubuntu (the last one) the installation stops to "mounting root file system" and doesen't go on. I tryed to disconnect all my USB devices but it didnt work
[01:07] <wind> hm
[01:07] <Hawkwind> khmer: Did you also md5sum the burned image and have you verified the CD isn't scratched or anything
[01:07] <khmer> Hawkwind: would not the "check CD integrity" option at the boot menu discover such issues
[01:07] <jimmy> try "sudo vi xorg.conf" again
[01:07] <khmer> because it passed
[01:07] <Hawkwind> khmer: Not necessarily, no
[01:08] <wind> ok now i see stuff
[01:08] <jimmy> great
[01:08] <khmer> Hawkwind: well i suppose i can try it
[01:08] <wind> now what
[01:08] <Gingillo> nobody can help me? =(
[01:08] <jimmy> in the Device section, look for a driver option
[01:08] <jimmy> tell me what it is
[01:08] <Hawkwind> Gingillo: Patience.  If/When someone can, they will.
[01:08] <wind> huh
[01:09] <Gingillo> ok thanks
[01:09] <jimmy> look in the file, there should be a section called Device
[01:09] <wind> oh
[01:09] <wind> inputdevice?
[01:09] <jimmy> no, go lower
[01:09] <wind> ok i see device
[01:09] <jimmy> Section "Device"
[01:09] <wind> boardname intel 915
[01:09] <khmer> in point of fact i'm actually just trying to recover someone's winxp system
[01:09] <wind> driver i810
[01:09] <Hawkwind> Gingillo: Could be a bad CD, bad downloaded ISO image, a bad burn to the CD.  Any number of things.  Did you md5sum the downloaded ISO file, as well as md5sum the burned image on the CD ?
[01:09] <wind> screen 0
[01:09] <wind> vendorname intel
[01:09] <khmer> and really, i shouldn't be using an ubuntu or a kubuntu disc, i'm just more experienced with those live CDs than rescue distros like knoppix
[01:10] <wind> busid PCI:0:2:0
[01:10] <lib8264q> hey  channel ...
[01:10] <khmer> anyone here familiar with knoppix and the like?
[01:10] <jmichaelx> i was just trying to upgrade to 6.06.1 using adept and ran into a problem. while installing the downloaded ugrades, it said that kaudiocreator was broken, and then adept crashed. i have since rebooted, but when i try to run adept again, i get an error saying it adept/apt-get is already in use... can anyone help?
[01:10] <Hawkwind> khmer: Guys in #Knoppix are
[01:10] <jimmy> that is where your problem is
[01:10] <Gingillo> Hawkwind: i downloaded the cd 2 times and i burned it 2 tiems..
[01:10] <khmer> Hawkwind: reasonable enough
[01:10] <wind> ?
[01:10] <jimmy> you changed it to i810?
[01:10] <wind> i didn't change it
[01:10] <Hawkwind> Gingillo: Again, did you md5sum check the ISO image as well as the burned image on the CD itself ?
[01:10] <wind> it was i810 default
[01:10] <wind> i changed it to intel 915
[01:10] <jimmy> hmmm
[01:11] <wind> at least i think i did
[01:11] <lib8264q> ging  dont suppose your trying to install (u)kubuntu on a lap[py with an i830m chipset ?
[01:11] <jimmy> well, I suggest you head on over to the kubuntu forums and post
[01:11] <wind> man
[01:12] <jimmy> make sure to tell them everything I told you and post that xorg.conf file
[01:12] <jmichaelx> do i need to run a dpkg command?
[01:12] <Gingillo> Hawkwind: Gingillo: Again, i don't know what does md5sum mean :P
[01:12] <wind> how can i post it if i can't get the laptop running
[01:12] <wind> i'm on a different pc
[01:12] <Gingillo> Hawkwind:  did you md5sum
[01:12] <jimmy> unless someone else here knows alot about video drivers
[01:12] <Gingillo> hawkind: sorry i smoked -.-'  i don't know what does md5sum mean :P
[01:12] <Hawkwind> Gingillo: When you download an ISO image, you need to md5sum check it to make sure the download was accurately done
[01:12] <lib8264q> i hafd trouble install on an intel chipset but i got it eventually ??????
[01:13] <jimmy> go to kubuntuforums.com
[01:13] <jimmy> unless you  want to simply re-install the OS
[01:13] <jmichaelx> wind: after you install 915resolution, you need to immediately reconfigure xorg.conf....  when i installed 915resolution the first time, i did not do that, and when i rebooted i could never get kubuntu to work again, and i re-installed
[01:13] <wind> are you sure it's the video driver?
[01:13] <jimmy> which may be easier if you don't want to wait for a reply on the forums
[01:14] <wind> but what about the stuff i have saved
[01:14] <wind> images, videos, music
[01:14] <soulrider> hi everyone
[01:14] <jimmy> if you have stuff saved, then you probably want to go tot he forums and post
[01:14] <wind> just cut my losses and format/nstall
[01:14] <lib8264q> wind  can i ask you have you an intel i830m driver chipset ?
[01:14] <lib8264q> graphics ...
[01:14] <jimmy> there you go, someone to help!
[01:14] <wind> not that i'm aware of
[01:15] <lib8264q> i had a lot of trouble installing and i mean a lot ...
[01:15] <khmer> well you know
[01:15] <khmer> they probably know in #knoppix
[01:15] <lib8264q> kept crashing  on xorg
[01:15] <khmer> but they're not saying anything!
[01:15] <khmer> seriously, has anybody in here used knoppix
[01:15] <wind> ok i'll just reinstall
[01:15] <soulrider> not m,e
[01:15] <khmer> how does it compare to an ubuntu livecd
[01:15] <wind> this is getting to complicated
[01:15] <lib8264q> wind .... hold a sec ....
[01:15] <Face1> i have used knoppix, but not too extensively
[01:15] <soulrider> use kubuntu, it rocks! :P
[01:16] <khmer> soulrider: lots of things rock
[01:16] <lib8264q> the way to install it is use the alternate cd ...
[01:16] <khmer> ac/dc, canoes
[01:16] <Face1> haha
[01:16] <khmer> but they're not all really good for system recovery
[01:16] <lib8264q> do a server isnatll ...
[01:16] <lib8264q> install
[01:16] <wind> ?
[01:17] <lib8264q> then when the comp reboots  and ypou log on to termianl command  ... use the following command
[01:17] <lib8264q> sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[01:17] <lib8264q> its totaly text based install ... but it works
[01:18] <lib8264q> xorg auto configs itself
[01:18] <wind> what will happen then?
[01:18] <lib8264q> once its finished it will drop back to command ...
[01:18] <lib8264q> then type startx
[01:18] <lib8264q> bingo
[01:19] <lib8264q> up and running
[01:19] <wind> and everything is back to norm?
[01:19] <lib8264q> was the only way i could install it ./... i even posted the problem on forum waited abotu 6 days
[01:20] <jimmy> does anyone know how to add a user to the sudoers group from bash?
[01:21] <crimsun> sudo adduser $USER admin
[01:23] <jimmy> thanks bud
[01:23] <veritos> i have a problem also, i'm on kubuntu 6.06, and when i try to run java web start, it gives me the error:
[01:23] <veritos> Java Web Start splash screen process exiting .....
[01:23] <veritos> Splash: sysCreateListenerSocket failed: No such file or directory
[01:24] <wind> hm
[01:24] <wind> lets hope this works
[01:24] <jmichaelx>  i was just trying to upgrade to 6.06.1 using adept and ran into a problem. while installing the downloaded ugrades, it said that kaudiocreator was broken, and then adept crashed. i have since rebooted, but when i try to run adept again, i get an error saying it adept/apt-get is already in use... can anyone help?
[01:29] <lib8264q> hmmm can someone tell me what program is used on kubuntu desktop for transfering via irda cant seem to see anything on the desktop
[01:29] <dukeman21> what about "Make command"
[01:30] <jmichaelx> what does the dpkg command do?
[01:31] <lib8264q> dpkg not add filesto system ?
[01:31] <jmichaelx> what?
[01:31] <jmichaelx> it does add the files or does not?
[01:32] <Agios> dpkg -i installs a deb package, it has many other package related options too
[01:33] <Agios> man dpkg
[01:33] <sledge_at_work> cya
[01:33] <jmichaelx> my upgrade to 6.06.1 has gone all wrong lol
[01:35] <jmichaelx> Agios: do you know what to do if you try to upgrade a package with adept, but then find it is broken? adept crashed while installing the upgrade to kde 3.5.4 and now i am stuck
[01:36] <Agios> stuck in what way?
[01:37] <jmichaelx> well, it downloaded all of  the files, but when it started installing them, it only got to arounf %15, and i said a file was broken, adept then crashed, and i am not sure what to do now
[01:37] <Agios> adept won't start again?
[01:37] <jmichaelx> i have even rebooted, but adept still won't start. it says it's in use
[01:38] <jmichaelx> Agios: no
[01:38] <Agios> ah, you need to remove the lock file
[01:38] <jmichaelx> hmm
[01:38] <lters> what does apt-get install say?
[01:39] <jmichaelx> should i just type sudo apt-get install?
[01:39] <lters> sure
[01:40] <jmichaelx> ok it said i need to run dpkg --configure -a, which i am doing now
[01:40] <lters> yep
[01:40] <lters> that is the answer.
[01:40] <lters> apt-get install is your buddy and friend.
[01:40] <jmichaelx> that was the dpkg command i was looking for, and could not remember what it was
[01:40] <jmichaelx> yes, it is
[01:44] <ubuntu> neocodex.us
[01:45] <tobias_> haha! hello everybody, another great kubuntu day! :D
[01:46] <tobias_> im still totally crazy about it for the third or fourth day now
[01:47] <springman> hey all...How exaclty do I burn a CD? I need to get a driver on disk and get it to a windows machine.
[01:47] <Agios> try k3b
[01:48] <springman> ok i will start there...
[01:48] <springman> any tips on making the disk readable in XP? or is it ubiquitus?
[01:48] <lters>  should just work
[01:48] <Agios> you need joliet. k3b probably does they by default
[01:49] <lters> anyone get vmplayer working with .1 ?
[01:49] <springman> gotcha...
[01:49] <lters> I get a depends error..
[01:49] <springman> kb3 looks nice...like a cross between nero and adaptec
[01:49] <springman> thanks for the help i am gonna try this!
[01:49] <soulrider> its ncie indeed
[01:50] <springman> wow...that was almost too easy...
[01:50] <springman> GRRR!! spoke to soon...
[01:51] <springman> says it doesnt have permission...
[01:51] <springman> any ideas how to fix that?
[01:51] <lters> check the setup/tools option
[01:51] <springman> thanks
[01:53] <springman> uhhmm...i am lost..I see lots of chmod and root things in the settings...anyone know what I need to change exaclty to make a data disk?
[01:55] <eric__> Does anyone have any experience with preseeding and network booting? I've just about gotten it working, but I need a little help.
[01:58] <springman> cdrecord has no permission to open the device
[01:58] <lters> springman: the simple way(for me)...
[01:58] <lters> sudo -s
[01:58] <springman> and that does?
[01:59] <lters> (enter pass)
[01:59] <lters> makes u root
[01:59] <springman> from a konsole right
[01:59] <lters> with full perms
[01:59] <lters> yes
[01:59] <lters> than make the iso...
[01:59] <lters> man mkiso
[01:59] <springman> neat
[01:59] <lters> actually mkisofs
[02:00] <springman> mkisofs for a single file?
[02:00] <Wind> okie doke, reinstalled kubuntu
[02:01] <Wind> figured this would be much easier
[02:02] <lters> mkisofs -V "my cd name" -l -J -o my.iso
[02:03] <lters> cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc (or where your cd is) -eject /path/to/my.iso
[02:03] <springman> i just want one file...is that ok?
[02:03] <lters> sure
[02:03] <springman> ok...
[02:03] <springman> i will try that
[02:03] <lters> mkiso -l -J -o my.iso /myonefile
[02:03] <lters> u can mount the iso and look at it before burning it to make sure u like
[02:03] <lters> it
[02:05] <springman> heheh Iters...I figured out how to do it with kb3
[02:05] <springman> k3b**
[02:05] <lters> fancy ;)
[02:05] <lters> cmd rocks tho.
[02:05] <springman> i opened konsole and typed sudo -s...<pass>..then sudo k3b...it opened and is now burning
[02:06] <springman> yes, but i am n00b...i need interfaces =P
[02:06] <springman> DONE!!
[02:06] <springman> YEAY!
[02:06] <springman> thank you Iters..you gave me the idea I needed to get it done. gotta run!
[02:09] <visik7> anyone know how to make ubiquity run automatically after live cd is booted and how to get it unattended ?
[02:09] <sophie_> Anybody know how to get the Trash Can on the desktop other than making a link to "trash:/"
[02:12] <visik7> sophie_: what's the problem of making a link to trash:/ ?
[02:13] <zane> hello
[02:13] <sophie_> visik7: I get the default icon trash full and it does not change to empty trash when the trash is emptied
[02:15] <visik7> you need to edit the .dekstop in ~/Desktop
[02:15] <randy> hello
[02:17] <manelson> hey everyonnne
[02:17] <manelson> Does anyone know how you specify the head a monitor is connected to on a multihead card in xorg.conf?
[02:17] <evi1> hey i have a simple question how do i open up a root konsole
[02:18] <visik7> evi1: sudo -i
[02:18] <evi1> thanks
[02:18] <visik7> sophie_: echo "EmptyIcon=trashcan_empty" >> ~/Desktop/Trash.desktop
[02:19] <randy> hello
[02:19] <sophie_> visik7: tried that and ists not working
[02:19] <visik7> works for me
[02:19] <evi1> hmm im migrating from debian to kunbuntu and having a few problems
[02:19] <visik7> randy: hello do you need something ?
[02:19] <randy> how can I get firefox or mozilla to work on kubuntu 6.06? you all
[02:19] <visik7> randy: run adept
[02:19] <visik7> randy: and install it
[02:19] <randy> did
[02:20] <randy> did
[02:20] <visik7> alt+space
[02:20] <sophie_> visik7: when i hover the mouse over the icin it does show empty! weird
[02:20] <visik7> and start to write the name og the program
[02:20] <manelson> randy: have you tried launching it via cmd line?
[02:20] <randy> yes
[02:20] <manelson> whats it say?
[02:21] <evi1> i am trying to install nvidia drivers and it says it is unable to find the system utitlity "ld"
[02:21] <sophie_> visik7: now that i have actually moved some stuff to the trash and emptied it it state is updated
[02:21] <sophie_> visik7: I guest its working now I had to "refresh" the trash state
[02:21] <visik7> dunno
[02:21] <visik7> good for you
[02:21] <randy> visik7: thanks for the effort
[02:23] <randy> everything works pretty good on this machine but these few browser problems been buggin me for a monf
[02:23] <evi1> should i run the nvidia driver installation in command promt only?
[02:23] <manelson> have you tried to install it via like easyubuntu or something like that
[02:23] <manelson> thats how i installed mine
[02:23] <evi1> as in kde not running
[02:25] <randy> visik7: these few browser problems buggin me bro
[02:30] <lters> anyone try to apt-get install vmware-player?
[02:30] <Jucato> lters: I did. why?
[02:30] <lters> I get a dependancy error
[02:31] <lters> needs libatk1.0.0 > 1
[02:31] <lters> what mrror did u use?
[02:32] <Jucato> hm... libatk should already be installed... what's the complete error message that you get about libatk?
[02:33] <DaSkreech> Back
[02:33] <lters> even firefox wont install.
[02:33] <Jucato> wb DaSkreech
[02:33] <DaSkreech> Anyone need help?
[02:33] <Jucato> err... lters is this a fresh install of Kubuntu?
[02:34] <lters> yes
[02:34] <sickboy> ya whats a good game to download with adept
[02:34] <lters> I did mess with apt a bit...
[02:34] <Jucato> ah I see, I have a feeling you're repositories aren't enabled yet or some are disabled
[02:34] <lters> /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:34] <Jucato> libatk should be installed by default, AFAIK
[02:35] <lters> I might have found the prb
[02:35] <randy> hell
[02:35] <lters> restricted was commented out.
[02:35] <randy> ello
[02:35] <Jucato> ok
[02:35] <evi1> how do install a .deb file extension
[02:36] <lters> dpkg -i myprog.deb
[02:36] <Jucato> evi1: right-click on it in Konqueror
[02:36] <randy> bet you can't fix this browser problem
[02:36] <Jucato> evi1: and choose Kubuntu Package Menu
[02:36] <sophie_> evi1:  dpkg -i "package name" from cmd line
[02:36] <Jucato> actually, "sudo dpkg -i <package_name>"
[02:36] <Jucato> randy: what problem?
[02:36] <DaSkreech> !games > sickboy
[02:37] <evi1> kk
[02:37] <evi1> one more problem
[02:37] <evi1> installing nvidia drivers
[02:37] <DaSkreech> randy: Speak!
[02:37] <evi1> i get a error that says
[02:37] <evi1> ERROR: Unable to find the system utility `ld`; please make sure you have the
[02:37] <evi1>          package 'binutils' installed.  If you do have binutils installed,
[02:37] <evi1>          then please check that `ld` is in your PATH.
[02:37] <Jucato> DaSkreech: patience grasshopper.. :-D
[02:37] <lters> where is the right place to do keycode mods?
[02:37] <evi1> im on a fresh default kunbuntu install
[02:37] <lters> .Xmodmap?
[02:37] <sophie_> Jucato: yep forgot the sudo!
[02:37] <evi1> 6.06.1
[02:38] <Jucato> evi1: what "guide" to installing NVIDIA drivers are you using?
[02:38] <randy> jucato: firefox or any mozilla apps will not stay running they try to open for about 12 seconds then give up with no message
[02:38] <evi1> the one on tehre web site
[02:38] <DaSkreech> randy: ran them from the command line?
[02:38] <evi1> that say type "sh porgram name"
[02:38] <evi1> program
[02:38] <randy> DaSkreech: yes
[02:38] <DaSkreech> randy: And?
[02:39] <randy> nothing, same result
[02:39] <Jucato> randy: so they open up, or you just see them starting up but never show up?
[02:39] <randy> they try, but do not open
[02:39] <DaSkreech> randy: Have they ever opened?
[02:39] <randy> no
[02:39] <Jucato> ahh...
[02:40] <Jucato> I occasionally have the same problem here
[02:40] <Jucato> usually launching them from the command line works
[02:40] <DaSkreech> So you installed and had no joy since then?
[02:40] <randy> right
[02:40] <Jucato> or just keep on hammering them till they pop up
[02:40] <DaSkreech> randy: have you tried to purge them?
[02:40] <evi1> basically im stuck on a 1200x1024 on a 24in monitor
[02:40] <randy> what's that?
[02:40] <DaSkreech> I think it might be your .mozilla folder giving some issue
[02:40] <evi1> trying to get my drivers set up to use higher res
[02:41] <DaSkreech> randy: how did you install them?
[02:41] <randy> adept
[02:41] <DaSkreech> ok which package?
[02:41] <evi1> randy you can always compile firefox
[02:41] <DaSkreech> (s)
[02:41] <Jucato> er... brb
[02:41] <DaSkreech> evi1: Hopefully that shouldn't be necessary
[02:41] <Jucato> DaSkreech, you handle things here :-D
[02:41] <randy> evi1: done that
[02:41] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Don't be long :)
[02:41] <Philip5> Pass71!
[02:41] <Jucato> ehehe
[02:43] <evi1> i know there was a semi-graphical way to edit your x in debian to adjust settings such as your resolutions
[02:43] <evi1> is there such a way in kunbuntu
[02:43] <DaSkreech> randy: Delete your .mozilla folder
[02:43] <randy> DaSkreech: really?
[02:44] <DaSkreech> randy: Sure
[02:44] <Hawkwind> evi1: dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server ?
[02:44] <randy> sounds brutal
[02:44] <DaSkreech> ~/.mozilla
[02:44] <evi1> ok i think i found my probelm
[02:44] <randy> then what?
[02:44] <evi1> how do i stop my X
[02:44] <DaSkreech> randy: try run it again
[02:44] <Hawkwind> evi1: ctrl-alt-backspace, killall X, /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[02:45] <Hawkwind> evi1: Several ways
[02:45] <Hawkwind> evi1: Also, the first command I gave you was wrong, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:45] <lters> ctrl-alt-F1 gets u to a console prompt.
[02:45] <lters> than u can do /etc/init.d/kdm stop to kill kde...
[02:48] <Hawkwind> lters: All the commands I just gave him will do the same thing
[02:49] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: have you ever tried to debug aptitude by cance?
[02:49] <lters> u are right. I was thinking of the  ctrl atl f1
[02:49] <DaSkreech> randy: Hello?
[02:49] <gnomefreak> chance*
[02:49] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: I've never used it to be honest
[02:49] <gnomefreak> :(
[02:50] <lters> Jucato: thanks for your tips.
[02:51] <Jucato> lters: no problem :-D
[02:51] <lters> working now.
[02:51] <lters> .
[02:51] <randy> DaSkreech: hello
[02:51] <DaSkreech> randy: Did it work?
[02:51] <randy> same result
[02:51] <randy> no joy
[02:52] <Jucato> would anyone happen to know why "restricted" isn't even included in the dapper-security entry in sources.list? (It makes it a bit harder to give instructions on installing NVIDIA drivers...)
[02:52] <DaSkreech> randy: Did it recreate the .mozilla folder?
[02:53] <randy> DaSkreech: yes!  interesting, .mozilla in my directory had "erms
[02:53] <Jucato> DaSkreech: sometimes I have that problem too, Firefox not launching immediately. but usually launching it from the command line, or trying to launch it again and again works...
[02:53] <DaSkreech> erms?
[02:53] <sickboy123> where are the games? i just installed some and cant find them in the menu
[02:53] <randy> permissions "inaccessable"
[02:54] <Jucato> sickboy123: try running this command in Konsole to update K Menu "kbuildsycoca --incremental"
[02:55] <sickboy123> says no database available
[02:55] <sickboy123> nm
[02:55] <sickboy123> it worked thou
[02:55] <Jucato> :-D
[02:55] <sickboy123> thanks!
[02:55] <Jucato> no problem
[02:58] <randy> DaSkreech: I guess I'll try 'adept' to uninstall these mozilla apps and try again
[02:58] <DaSkreech> randy: Right click
[02:58] <DaSkreech> And purge
[02:58] <randy> what?
[02:59] <randy> purge what?
[02:59] <DaSkreech> Right click the package in adept and select purge
[02:59] <DaSkreech> it gets rid of all possible settings etc
[02:59] <randy> oh, that's new
[02:59] <randy> right back
[02:59] <DaSkreech> ok
[03:01] <erov> KPersonalizer runs on startup EVERYTIME.. also my Nameserver (DNS) is not being remembered when I boot/reboot
[03:02] <erov> any ideas ?
[03:03] <Jucato> I think it's one of the bugs of Kubuntu's KDE 3.5.4
[03:03] <erov> what about the ns (it existed beforehand)
[03:03] <Jucato> err... that I wouldn't know...
[03:04] <erov> I apply it in the settings.. and have tried manually editing /etc/resolv.conf... on boot my settings are non-existant
[03:04] <erov> worked fine for ages
[03:04] <erov> dont ask me what I did.. hehe. I couldn't even begin to explain
[03:05] <lters> Jucato: what gcc related packages did vmware need?
[03:06] <Jucato> lters: you better install the package "build-essential"
[03:06] <XVampireX> Hmm, will kubuntu have 2.6.18?
[03:06] <XVampireX> edgy eft, rather
[03:06] <lters> ah, there u go. I could not remember the spelling
[03:06] <Jucato> lters: sorry, forgot to mention that. I had it installed already so I just took it for granted :-D
[03:06] <patrick_> Hey does anyone know what the diffence between a "key" and a "button is? (inside the compiz gconf entrys)
[03:07] <lters> ;)
[03:08] <lters> Jucato: always fails but don't tell me where...
[03:08] <randy> DaSkreech: ok, I purged all the mozilla pkgs, I'm searching for more mozilla files elsewhere because I had tried compiling SeaMonkey, the wonderful new mozilla browser
[03:08] <DaSkreech> :-) That doesn't have a package yet?
[03:08] <DaSkreech> For shame
[03:08] <Jucato> ehehe! SeaMonkey ain't just a browser. It's a whole wonderful Suite! :-D
[03:09] <DaSkreech> Without a package it seems
[03:10] <randy> DaSkreech: no sir, not in the multiverse
[03:10] <DaSkreech> Shame :)
[03:12] <randy> DaSkreech: by the way Seamonkey also won't run yet,
[03:12] <DaSkreech> Which did you install first?
[03:12] <Jucato> double shame...
[03:13] <randy> DaSkreech: Seamonkey I think, but I've been in this problem for a monf, it might have been the firefox via adept
[03:14] <DaSkreech> randy: That's really strange. None of them have ever run
[03:14] <randy> no
[03:14] <randy> my lug boys didn't see what the big deal was
[03:15] <randy> they just said install the basic gnome files and then changed back to their own trajectory
[03:15] <DaSkreech> Well if you apt-get install friefox you have all the depends
[03:16] <randy> DaSkreech: that's what I figured
[03:18] <lters> Jucato: hmm, the include vmware modules are for 2.6.15 instead 2.6.23
[03:18] <randy> DaSkreech: I used to get these unsolvables on a different computer running RH9 and it bugged me bro, but I don't think there's anything wrong with this pc
[03:18] <DaSkreech> randy: What IRC client are you using?
[03:18] <randy> konversation
[03:19] <DaSkreech> ok Know how to add servers?
[03:19] <randy> not too much
[03:19] <DaSkreech> Press F2
[03:20] <randy> ok
[03:20] <Jucato> lters: what kernel are you using? (the output of the command "uname -r"
[03:20] <DaSkreech> new -> NEtwork name( Mozilla) -> Servers -> irc.mozilla.org -> channels (#firefox) save
[03:21] <DaSkreech> Jucato: what the output of uname -p ?
[03:21] <randy> wow ok
[03:21] <Jucato> lol unknown
[03:21] <drbreen> jucato: open a terminal
[03:21] <DaSkreech> On the server list you have irc.mozilla.org?
[03:21] <DaSkreech> Click it and click connect
[03:21] <drbreen> jucato: and then enter uname -p
[03:22] <Jucato> err... ??? why are you guys telling me this?
[03:22] <DaSkreech> Jucato:  :)
[03:22] <DaSkreech> drbreen: Whats the output of uname -p ?
[03:22] <Jucato> anyway, the output of my "uname -p" is "unknown"
[03:23] <drbreen> "unknown", strange i could have sworn
[03:23] <drbreen> ...
[03:23] <drbreen> my hardware detect thingy shows it is a pentium 2
[03:23] <DaSkreech> randy: They might be able to help. They will probably run you back here but ask them to at least help you to get some output from the CLI
[03:23] <Jucato> ehehe.
[03:23] <DaSkreech> Yeah everyone has it as unknown
[03:23] <DaSkreech>  that sucks
[03:24] <DaSkreech> drbreen: What hardware deteect thingy?
[03:24] <drbreen> but why is that so ?
[03:25] <randy> DaSkreech: ok see you later
[03:25] <DaSkreech> randy: You don't gotta ditch here :)
[03:25] <DaSkreech> Kubuntu and Mozilla can leave in harmony
[03:26] <DaSkreech> drbreen: I'm trying to figure that out
[03:26] <farous> anyone know how to auto mount sshfs
[03:27] <drbreen> system --> administration --> device manager ?
[03:27] <Jucato> err...
[03:27] <drbreen> oh it does not show my processor
[03:27] <DaSkreech> :-P
[03:27] <Jucato> or System Settings > Administration > Disks & Filesystems?
[03:27] <Ertain> I'd like Xgl to work, but for it work properly (or at least in some form) I need to install the compiz-kde pack.  And to do that I need to install the libqt4 libraries.  But when I want to compile a program that makes use of the Qt libraries I don't know if I'll have to jump through hoops just to make the program compile.
[03:27] <lters> Jucato: the default that came with 6.06.1
[03:27] <DaSkreech> Ertain: Hi
[03:28] <Jucato> lters: type "uname -r" in Konsole and paste the output  please
[03:29] <lters> 2.6.15-26-386
[03:29] <lters> :( hmm, don't like the 686
[03:29] <lters> be back in a bit.
[03:29] <Jucato> lters: in your sources.list, add the word "restricted" to the line that has "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main"
[03:30] <Jucato> why isn't the "restricted" component of dapper-security included by default in the installation?
[03:30] <Ertain> Hello DaSkreech.
[03:31] <DaSkreech> Ertain: Did you read !xgl ?
[03:31] <DaSkreech> Well the Kubuntu section?
[03:31] <Ertain> Can do.
[03:31] <DaSkreech> !xgl
[03:31] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:31] <mr_daemon> Anyone here running dapper can tell me if they have the file /etc/init.d/mountnfs.sh?
[03:31] <mr_daemon> It's not on my system...
[03:31] <DaSkreech> That last part :)
[03:33] <mr_daemon> Anyone? Can anyone justcheck if /etc/init.d/mountnfs.sh is there?
[03:33] <erov> d
[03:34] <Hawkwind> mr_daemon: No such file here
[03:34] <mr_daemon> Where the heck did it go?
[03:34] <DaSkreech> Ertain: In short you don't really need compiz-kde
[03:34] <mr_daemon> Because no network shares are being mounted at boot now.
[03:35] <DaSkreech> Ertain: Oh for better responses you may want to hang out in #ubuntu-xgl
[03:36] <Jucato> is there a kubuntu-xgl channel?
[03:36] <Jucato> :-D
[03:36] <DaSkreech> Jucato: That's it
[03:36] <DaSkreech> Until KDE4 rolls around
[03:37] <Ertain> Can do DaSkreech.
[03:37] <mr_daemon> Any idea how Dapper handles mounting network shares at boot?
[03:37] <mr_daemon> I have a feeling it doesn't.
[03:38] <mr_daemon> I'll just work around that by adding "mount -a" to rc.local
[03:39] <mr_daemon> but that's a shitty hack...
[03:39] <Hawkwind> mr_daemon: Watch the language please
[03:39] <Jucato>  @_@
[03:39] <mr_daemon> Hawkwind: My bad. Sorry.
[03:40] <mr_daemon> Is anyone mounting NFS shares at boot here? At all?
[03:42] <actinic> mr_daemon, yes, i am
[03:43] <mr_daemon> actinic: On dapper?
[03:43] <mr_daemon> actinic: And is it working?
[03:43] <actinic> that's correct
[03:44] <mr_daemon> actinic: On this new box, whenever I reboot, no network shares get mounted at all. If I do a mount -a it works fine. But they are ignored at boot time...
[03:45] <lters> Jucato: installing the 686 now...
[03:45] <Jucato> lters: err....
[03:45] <Jucato> did you get my last message?
[03:45] <Jucato> lters: in your sources.list, add the word "restricted" to the line that has "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main"
[03:46] <mr_daemon> actinic: Any ideas what might be wrong? In the past this was handled by /etc/init.d/mountnfs.sh...
[03:46] <actinic> mr_daemon, have you edited your /etc/fstab ?
[03:46] <actinic> for it to work before, but not now, is strange
[03:47] <lters> it is there...
[03:48] <Jucato> hmmm...
[03:48] <mr_daemon> actinic: Well I just copy pasted it straight from my previous machine
[03:48] <awe6> How can I get sound back on Badger?  Lost all sound except KDE system notifications and the sign-on song.
[03:48] <lters> are u thinking there should be a deb for the right modules for vmware?
[03:48] <actinic> has the ip address changed for the host ... or server, perhaps?
[03:49] <Jucato> no. I might have done something beforehand to install the correct modules...
[03:49] <lters> k
[03:49] <awe6> Among other things, Youtube is now speechless :-(
[03:49] <lters> looks the older 2.6.15 ones do work..
[03:49] <mr_daemon> actinic: No, not that I know of... I'm pretty sure it's client side. It's like the system is not attempting *at all* to mount it
[03:49] <lters> awe6: did u add a user?
[03:50] <awe6> lters: No only the same user I started out with last month.  No other system changes I can think ok.
[03:51] <awe6> lters: Sound was fine a day or so ago
[03:51] <actinic> almost sounds like /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server isn't starting at boot
[03:51] <randy> DaSkreech: no one's answering in any of the mozilla channels I tried
[03:52] <actinic> is nfs running at initial start up?
[03:52] <DaSkreech> randy: Which did you try?
[03:52] <awe6> lters: How can I restart ALSA?
[03:52] <randy> seamonkey, mozillazine, mozilla
[03:52] <lters> awe6: it is not a service...
[03:53] <david> cual es el canal en espaol
[03:53] <CheeseBurgerMan> !es
[03:53] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:54] <lters> the snd device I think should be /dev/dsp
[03:54] <david> gracias
[03:54] <randy> DaSkreech: seamonkey, mozillazine, mozilla - guess I'll try later
[03:54] <evi1> does anyone have experience with getting full functionality out of a mx-100 logitech mouse
[03:54] <evi1> mx-1000
[03:54] <CheeseBurgerMan> You're welcome (whatever that is in Spanish)
[03:54] <cerda> anyone here uses KGuitar or similar tab program????
[03:55] <intelikey> oh my... i totally hosed sysvinit
[03:55] <AdamBrz> hey wondering if I could get some help here, i burned a livecd(i think) whenver i load it
[03:55] <awe6> lters: I see something in /etc/init.d/alsa-utils.  Perhaps alsa-utils restart?
[03:55] <intelikey> oh well.   time to write a startup script to replace sysv
[03:55] <lters> would not hurt
[03:55] <AdamBrz> it goes through it all and nice, but then it stops on screen with blue bar adn kbuntu logo
[03:55] <AdamBrz> and im pretty sure it doesnt continue like stalls....
[03:56] <lters> I expect that either you don't have rights or something has exclusive use of your /dev/dsp ...
[03:56] <DaSkreech> randy: I'd hang around there and ask for you but I have no idea how to debug that sorry
[03:57] <lters> awe6: sometimes in a pinch I will do a 'cat soundfile > /dev/dsp'
[03:57] <lters> might sound weird but you can tell its working.
[03:57] <intelikey> AdamBrz you can boot it with options like    vga=4 verbose     and maybe get an idea what is hanging it.
[03:57] <evi1> are there any drivers for 12 button mice or does the xserver have to be manuly edited
[03:58] <intelikey> manual edit
[03:59] <randy> DaSkreech: thanks for your efforts, I got to believe others want to occasionally run a mozilla or gnome app on kubuntu 6.06 and have the info
[03:59] <evi1> lame
[03:59] <lters> randy: does mozilla not run?
[03:59] <evi1> im not good enough with linux to go manuly editing things
[03:59] <randy> lters: not at all
[04:00] <evi1> randy how about you jsut use opera?
[04:00] <awe6> lters: Gives "/dev/dsp: Device or resource busy"
[04:00] <CheeseBurgerMan> evi1: You could try searching @ http://google.com/linux
[04:00] <randy> evi1: well ok, but I got at least 3 mozilla apps I would like to run
[04:01] <evi1> what version of x.org comes with 6.06.1?
[04:01] <evi1> 6.9?
[04:01] <CheeseBurgerMan> evi1: I think it's 7.0
[04:01] <evi1> hmm
[04:01] <intelikey> is there anything that uses  lo  by default ?    X or anything need  lo  setup ?
[04:01] <evi1> ive found sutff for 6.9
[04:01] <evi1> i have no idea about compatibility
[04:02] <lters> awe6: ps ax | grep art, then kill it...
[04:02] <lters> awe6: kill <pid>
[04:02] <intelikey> Xorg -version
[04:03] <intelikey> if you want to know what version something is, just ask it.
[04:03] <evi1> yea im really new to linux
[04:03] <randy> evi1: besides I also really like konqueror and all its parts, it's great, but occasionally certain sites require firefox
[04:04] <evi1> i use opera for everything
[04:04] <evi1> with no problems
[04:04] <Hexidigital_> what do i need to enable, server-side, to allow krdc connections?
[04:04] <randy> evi1: and sunbird, seamonkey, mozilla composer are also great apps
[04:04] <actinic> same here, opera 9 is great
[04:04] <randy> evi1: that I'm using on my other machines
[04:05] <evi1> opera has way more built into it well then you can get from extensions
[04:05] <evi1> emphasis on the well
[04:05] <randy> haven't tried opera in years, i liked it, but it wouldn't run on my 98
[04:05] <intelikey> opera is not in the repos
[04:05] <lters> randy: "sudo apt-get install mozilla-browser"
[04:06] <CheeseBurgerMan> intelikey: I thought it was, although it may have it's own repo.
[04:06] <randy> evi1: I've done that several times
[04:06] <intelikey> CheeseBurgerMan apt-cache search opera
[04:06] <evi1> whats weird is that kunbuntu monitors my mouse's battery level but only uses 3 buttons
[04:06] <awe6> lters: Killing artsd recovered my sound.  Why was arts running in the first place?  Does KDE use it?
[04:07] <lters> awe6: yeah, that is the kde service.
[04:07] <intelikey> kde defaults to arts
[04:07] <lters> awe6: there is an option to tell it to let the snd device alone when it is done with it tho...
[04:07] <awe6> lters: There is a check box to turn off KDE sound after 30 seconds.  Is that the option you speak of?
[04:08] <lters> or u can tell kde not to run the service. (yes)
[04:08] <awe6> How can I tell KDE to only use alsa?
[04:09] <lters> kde can only use art.
[04:09] <lters> xmms etc can do other stuff
[04:09] <intelikey> well i think i'll reboot and see if i missed anything i my new ibunt-init  system
[04:09] <awe6> lters: So I can either use KDE silently by turning off artsd or enable the 30 second checkbox?
[04:10] <lters> awe6: exactly
[04:10] <intelikey> if i can figure out a way to reboot  lol
[04:10] <lters> "sudo reboot"
[04:10] <lters> will do it quick ;)
[04:10] <awe6> lters: Well I never thought KDE would be so rude.  Thank you very much for your advice lters.  Now I know what to do.
[04:10] <intelikey> i think i'll remount,ro /  first if it's all the same with you.
[04:11] <lters> kde is really quit inteligent I think with it.
[04:11] <randy> DaSkreech: I just got the idea to adept purge the gnome files and re-install, what do you think
[04:11] <islam_> As Salaam e laikum (meaning: May Peace b on u) . http://www.submission.org/ ... Your source for Islam (submission) on the internet.
[04:11] <islam_> [112:0]  In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
[04:11] <islam_> [112:1]  Proclaim, "He is the One and only GOD.
[04:11] <islam_> [112:2]  "The Absolute GOD.
[04:11] <islam_> [112:3]  "Never did He beget. Nor was He begotten.
[04:11] <islam_> [112:4]  "None equals Him."
[04:11] <DaSkreech> randy: Sure that shouldn't make a difference but go ahead
[04:11] <islam_> http://download.al-islaam.com/audiovideo/anasheedram/al-islaam/html/samtan/lastbreath.swf
[04:11] <drbreen> what was that ?
[04:12] <drbreen> do religious trolls often come here ?
[04:12] <intelikey> just a bit of religious trolling.
[04:12] <DaSkreech> That was a bot I'm guessing
[04:12] <drbreen> and why HERE ?
[04:12] <DaSkreech> Cause it's a bot :)
[04:12] <drbreen> why not in #jesuschrist ?
[04:12] <drbreen> omfg
[04:12] <drbreen> ppl that make those thing must be bored
[04:12] <DaSkreech>  /j /list  ;-)
[04:12] <randy> DaSkreech: ok what if i purge the gnome stuff and adept reinstall firefox?
[04:12] <DaSkreech> drbreen: Or have a message
[04:13] <lters> randy: forget adept
[04:13] <lters> ') try apt-get ...
[04:13] <randy> why
[04:13] <drbreen> DaSkreech: if they have a message, they could easily program their bot so that it wont flood ?!
[04:13] <lters> apt-get --purge remove firefox gnome
[04:14] <lters> randy: might be a major thing to remove gnome tho...
[04:14] <randy> seems odd to say on kubuntu
[04:14] <lters> just what I was thinking
[04:14] <lters> firefox uses gtk rather than gnome...
[04:14] <DaSkreech> randy: Sure but as I said there probably won't be much change
[04:14] <evi1> hmm i cant find azureus in the apt-get
[04:15] <DaSkreech>  The gnome stuff only really comes into play after mozila has opened
[04:15] <evi1> do i need to open up all the depositories
[04:15] <lters> sure
[04:15] <randy> isn't gtk a library for gnome?
[04:15] <DaSkreech> drbreen: naw :)
[04:15] <DaSkreech> randy: yes that's what Firefox uses to draw the windows
[04:16] <marcio> Quem  do Brasil a, para me dar uma mozinha aqui com meu Kubuntu
[04:16] <DaSkreech> !pr
[04:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about pr - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:16] <DaSkreech> Doh
[04:16] <DaSkreech> !portugese
[04:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about portugese - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:16] <DaSkreech> !br
[04:16] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[04:16] <DaSkreech> Ha ha :-)
[04:17] <marcio> Thanks. Sorry for talk portuguese
[04:18] <drbreen> how does ubotu know if i talk in another language ?
[04:18] <DaSkreech> drbreen: You tell it
[04:18] <drbreen> hallo test test eins zwei feuer zu befehl sauerkraut herr oberstumrbannfhrer
[04:18] <DaSkreech> marcio: No problem as long as it helps us get you help
[04:18] <DaSkreech> !gr
[04:18] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr   
[04:18] <DaSkreech> Doh :(
[04:19] <DaSkreech> !de
[04:19] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:19] <DaSkreech> :-)
[04:19] <drbreen> ah!
[04:19] <CheeseBurgerMan> hehe, oops. :P
[04:19] <drbreen> i assumed ubotu would search for keywords
[04:19] <DaSkreech> like help?
[04:19] <DaSkreech> !en
[04:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about en - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:19] <DaSkreech> Dumb bot
[04:23] <DaSkreech> Anyone use basket?
[04:23] <Hawkwind> I use a *trash basket* for garbage here in the house :P
[04:24] <mistik1> hehe
[04:24] <mistik1> Hey Hawkwind
[04:24] <RawSewage> I havent figured out Basket yet
[04:25] <RawSewage> what it's used for
[04:25] <DaSkreech> Notes
[04:25] <DaSkreech> to the XTremE!!
[04:25] <CheeseBurgerMan> DaSkreech: I have it installed, but don't really use it. :P
[04:25] <Hawkwind> mistik1: Good evening
[04:26] <DaSkreech> Ok :_) I was trying to figure out if you could inseert a type within another type
[04:26] <DaSkreech> seems not
[04:32] <intelikey> would turning on klogd  keep kernel I/O errors from printing to stdout ?
[04:32] <intelikey> stdout/stderr
[04:32] <c0rrupt> can you install a 64 bit os on vmware running on a 32 bit windows?
[04:33] <mistik1> OMG, KDE now has a Briefcase :/
[04:33] <intelikey> yuch
[04:33] <RawSewage> whats Briefcase
[04:33] <intelikey> well theres one thing i can say i don't like about kde
[04:34] <mistik1> I just compiled that basket program those guys where talking about
[04:34] <RawSewage> BAsket is in the repos
[04:34] <mistik1> I dont run kubuntu, I deploy it ;-)
[04:35] <intelikey> mistik1 oh  as long as it's not just part of kde i don't care what add-ons   :)
[04:35] <mistik1> hehe
[04:35] <intelikey> i don't run kubuntu either
[04:36] <mistik1> It dont look like a bad little app though
[04:36] <c0rrupt> anyone install XGL to kubuntu?
[04:37] <RawSewage> I did
[04:37] <mistik1> I may find a good use for it with my new users
[04:38] <intelikey> hmmmm i left / out of mtab somehow...   how to update mtab ?
[04:38] <mistik1> intelikey: /proc/mounts
[04:39] <doppelganger_> sdlafk;jas
[04:39] <doppelganger_> sldfj
[04:39] <CheeseBurgerMan> doppelganger_: The keyboard works.
[04:40] <satafterh> is there a substitut for shockwave player?
[04:41] <intelikey> mistik1 hmmm   how to update /proc/mounts      :)
[04:41] <mistik1> huh
[04:42] <DaSkreech> mistik1: use it for a week then try use knotes.
[04:42] <DaSkreech> Ugh
[04:42] <mistik1> DaSkreech: I've used knotes, used it for years actually, now I just use xpad
[04:43] <intelikey> mistik1 i'm not sure that /proc/mounts is up to date on this box      tty24 [root#~]  cat /proc/mounts
[04:43] <intelikey> rootfs / rootfs rw 0 0
[04:43] <DaSkreech> xpad?
[04:43] <intelikey> looks like a ramdisk to me.
[04:43] <drbreen> satafterh: gnash, gnu gpl flash stuff
[04:43] <drbreen> !xpad
[04:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about xpad - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:43] <mistik1> DaSkreech: like postit, no qt/kde/gnome libs needed
[04:44] <mistik1> prolly not in kubuntu by default
[04:44] <satafterh> ?
[04:44] <mistik1> intelikey: That looks bloody odd
[04:45] <DaSkreech> !info xpad
[04:45] <ubotu> xpad: sticky note application for X. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.10-1 (dapper), package size 75 kB, installed size 492 kB
[04:45] <intelikey> mtab needs updated alright but i think /proc/mounts gets updated some how too maybe...    i'll see what i can find on it.
[04:46] <Wind> how do i setup dvd::rip and how do i get started on ripping a dvd
[04:46] <intelikey> mistik1 fyi  i'm making my own sysv init.     errr intelikey V init ... hehhe
[04:46] <Hawkwind> Wind: Use something like k9copy, lot easier, and much quicker
[04:46] <Wind> apt-get?
[04:47] <mistik1> intelikey: I see
[04:47] <Wind> maybe i shouldn't have gotten this automatix?
[04:47] <Wind> i don't know, i don't think i'll ever use most of this stuff
[04:47] <Wind> i just really wanted the files to play movies and rip dvds/cds
[04:47] <Wind> and burn them
[04:48] <Wind> i like kopete and konversation
[04:48] <Wind> no need for xchat
[04:49] <Wind> bah i think i might reinstall kubuntu again, or can i get rid of everything automatix installed in one quick swoop?
[04:50] <Wind> is there a way? :)
[04:51] <Hawkwind> apt-get remove automatix
[04:51] <DaSkreech> ha ha :)
[04:51] <Hawkwind> Try it and see what happens, with sudo of course
[04:51] <intelikey> Wind what are you trying/wanting to do ?
[04:52] <Hawkwind> One day the world will learn not to use GUI tools for package management and use what works, the CLI
[04:52] <Hawkwind> intelikey: He wants to get rid of automatix all together
[04:52] <farous> Hawkwind: automtaix is not synaptic or adept
[04:52] <Hawkwind> farous: Nor is it apt-get from command line ;)
[04:53] <farous> Hawkwind: i am more aptitude guy myself :)
[04:53] <intelikey> installed as a .deb ?
[04:53] <Wind> is there a way to do it? or would it be easier to reinstall
[04:53] <intelikey> installed as a .deb ?   ?
[04:53] <farous> Wind: search the forums on automatix thread
[04:53] <Hawkwind> Wind: sudo apt-get remove automatix
[04:53] <Wind> what about all the stuff i got it to install
[04:53] <Hawkwind> Wind: Or answer intelikey's question
[04:53] <Wind> will remove do all that too?
[04:54] <Wind> what is a .deb?
[04:54] <Hawkwind> Wind: Doubtful
[04:54] <Hawkwind> Wind: How did you install it ?
[04:54] <Wind> i followed the instructions on their page
[04:54] <maltaethiron> guys, i've heard a lot about automatix, how do i go about getting that?
[04:54] <Wind> changing something in sources
[04:54] <Hawkwind> Wind: Was it a deb package, or did you compile it ?
[04:54] <Wind> it was a deb
[04:54] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: Stay away from it, it'll break things :P
[04:54] <Hawkwind> Wind: Again, sudo apt-get remove automatix
[04:54] <Wind> k
[04:55] <c0rrupt> where can i get an md5 for the latest kubuntu iso for i386
[04:55] <farous> Hawkwind: i think purge will be more to it ;)
[04:55] <c0rrupt> !md5
[04:55] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[04:55] <Hawkwind> c0rrupt: Whereever you downloaded the ISO from
[04:55] <c0rrupt> http://ubuntu.cs.utah.edu/releases/kubuntu/6.06/
[04:55] <c0rrupt> i dont see it
[04:56] <c0rrupt> shit-
[04:56] <c0rrupt> im cut
[04:56] <c0rrupt> sorry i see it
[04:56] <Wind> (Reading database ... 110794 files and directories currently installed.)
[04:56] <Wind> Removing automatix ...
[04:56] <Wind> and thats it?
[04:56] <matt____> hi!
[04:56] <intelikey> farous any configs it may have would be purged with --purge  but other than that. purge does nothing.
[04:56] <farous> intelikey: yah i know that
[04:56] <Wind> nothing seems to hav ebeen removed
[04:56] <Hawkwind> Wind: You might want to do a purge as farous suggested
[04:56] <DaSkreech> Wind: What did you install with automatix?
[04:56] <Wind> hm
[04:56] <farous> jus tgetting rid of all its tails
[04:57] <Wind> games, google earth, xchat, movie and cd files (to play them)
[04:57] <intelikey> but!  can't now purge something that's no longer installed.
[04:57] <maltaethiron> hawkwind: really?  i heard itll take care of all of my needs
[04:57] <Hawkwind> All of those could have been installed with sudo apt-get install :P
[04:57] <farous> Wind: you removed autotmatix but as intelikey said you are not removing what it installed
[04:57] <Wind> i know Hawkwind, i thought automatix would have been easier
[04:57] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: You see Wind is removing it because it's not working correctly.  Learn from others :)
[04:57] <Wind> but now i have a bunch of stuff i don't use
[04:57] <Hawkwind> Wind: A GUI package manager is never easier, nor better IMO
[04:58] <Hawkwind> Just a personal opinion
[04:58] <Wind> ok, format and reinstall time
[04:58] <Hawkwind> Wind: Why ?
[04:58] <Wind> i learn the hard way
[04:58] <maltaethiron> hawkwind: heheh, yeah i suppose.  then do you know an easy way to get all my video drivers and flash player?
[04:58] <Hawkwind> Reinstall is if you want to install a new OS
[04:58] <farous> wind you can just remove the packages you do not want
[04:58] <Hawkwind> !flash > maltaethiron
[04:58] <Wind> how? :o
[04:58] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: ATI or Nvidia ?
[04:59] <farous> wind same way you removed automatix
[04:59] <maltaethiron> hawkwind: ok by video drivers i meant like being able to play videos..like period
[04:59] <Wind> hm
[04:59] <farous> Wind: sudo apt-get uninstall <package name>
[04:59] <Wind> is it that easy?
[04:59] <Hawkwind> Wind: Of course
[04:59] <intelikey> Wind  dpkg -l | grep -e '^ii' | less      you can  use  /search.patern  ?search.patern     and anything you see you want to remove   sudo apt-get --purge remove it
[04:59] <intelikey> uninstall ?
[04:59] <farous> Wind: you are on debian now ;)
[04:59] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: Depends on the type of video really
[04:59] <farous> everything is easy
[04:59] <Hawkwind> farous: sudo apt-get remove, not uninstall
[05:00] <Hawkwind> Wind: sudo apt-get remove <package-name>
[05:00] <farous> Hawkwind: sorry told you am aptitude guy
[05:00] <maltaethiron> hawkwind: uh, basically mpg, wmv, and avi
[05:00] <farous> did not wana change the command line for hi
[05:00] <Hawkwind> !restricted > maltaethiron
[05:00] <farous> m
[05:00] <maltaethiron> hawkwind: the three basic video formats
[05:00] <Wind> wow i love it
[05:00] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: Read all the info the bot sent you in pm :)
[05:01] <scast> Anyone knows a good resource to get a good tar.gz with fonts?
[05:01] <matt____> yes installation of packages is dead easy with .deb packages
[05:01] <maltaethiron> hawkwind: ahh, tricky tricky
[05:01] <Hawkwind> Wind: See, who needs some silly GUI for package management :P
[05:01] <matt____> scast that is a good question, I have the same question, but slightly differently
[05:01] <Hawkwind> scast: I know of a link that will get you 6,790 fonts
[05:01] <Wind> now i understand :)
[05:01] <matt____> I wonder why OO. for windows installs the tandelle font, but not on Kubunutu?
[05:02] <Hawkwind> scast: Is that what you are looking for is tons of fonts ?
[05:02] <matt____> Hawkwind, I would be looking for that!
[05:03] <Hawkwind> matt____: http://thelinuxbox.org/?page_id=3
[05:03] <Hawkwind> 6,760 fonts on that page, all in one big .tar.gz file :P
[05:03] <intelikey> hmmmm will init ever know what runlevel it's in  or is the a login setting ?       i'd like to use this line in my script  but   i'm afreighd it will always think it's in  'unknown'        runlevel grep unknown && init 7 && exit 0
[05:04] <Wind> what is Kdat
[05:04] <Wind> and Kmid
[05:04] <Wind> er what is the package name
[05:04] <Hawkwind> !info kmid
[05:04] <ubotu> kmid: MIDI/karaoke player for KDE. In repository main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 261 kB, installed size 904 kB
[05:04] <Hawkwind> !info kdat
[05:04] <ubotu> kdat: a KDE tape backup tool. In repository universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 169 kB, installed size 820 kB
[05:05] <Hawkwind> Wind: Any other questions :P
[05:05] <intelikey> Wind   apt-cache search/show blah       man apt-cache   for more
[05:05] <Wind> hm
[05:05] <farous> Wind: just a question is your sys unstable or you just need to remove extra packages
[05:05] <Wind> are these case sensitive?
[05:05] <Hawkwind> Wind: apt-cache policy <package> to find out what repo it's in
[05:05] <Wind> i just want to get rid of things i won't use
[05:05] <Hawkwind> Wind: It can be, yes
[05:05] <intelikey> not the search
[05:06] <intelikey> the install/remove are
[05:06] <dell500> anyone know of a good backup program to transfer about 200gb is data from sata to USB-sata?
[05:06] <farous> i remember deb policy (if mem save me right) package names have to be small letters
[05:06] <intelikey> afik everything not somehow -i'd in linux is case sypmethic
[05:06] <Wind> how do i remove things from the k menu
[05:06] <farous> serve me right lol
[05:06] <Wind> if i already removed it with apt-get
[05:06] <Wind> like dvd::rip is still showing
[05:07] <intelikey> did you remove it ?
[05:07] <Wind> ya
[05:07] <scast> Hawkwind: sorry, yes
[05:08] <intelikey>    sudo apt-get remove --purge "dvd::rip"
[05:08] <intelikey> or what ever the name is
[05:08] <Wind> interesting
[05:09] <Wind> !info avidemux
[05:09] <ubotu> avidemux: a small editing software for avi (especially DivX). In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1:2.1.2-0.0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 2607 kB, installed size 6756 kB
[05:09] <intelikey> anyone know if runlevel can report from init ?
[05:09] <Wind> !info amarok
[05:09] <ubotu> amarok: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In repository main, is optional. Version 2:1.3.9-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 7630 kB, installed size 18672 kB
[05:10] <farous> Wind: if you intend to do that a lot open pm with ubotu /msg ubotu
[05:10] <c0rrupt> can you install xgl to kubuntu
[05:10] <intelikey> or if init has to set a verable so runlevel can report to login ?
[05:10] <Wind> thankie
[05:10] <farous> wind when you ask loose the !
[05:10] <Wind> yup
[05:10] <farous> :)
[05:11] <scast> Hawkwind: aight I found it in the link you gave to matt____ i think that will work
[05:12] <intelikey> Wind  i also showed you a way in the terminal/console    apt-cache show package-name   will give detailed informathion
[05:12] <Braxis> Hey I need some help... I've so far tried suse and kubuntu and I have the same problem
[05:12] <Braxis> Right after installation the screen completely glitches out before it gets in kde/gnome
[05:12] <Wind> that's just too much typing intelikey, but thanks :)
[05:12] <Wind> i should write some of this stuff down
[05:13] <intelikey> and you don't use history (uparrow)    or tab-completion....
[05:13] <Braxis> Basically the screen is full of graphical errors, keyboard is locked up, and mouse isn't
[05:13] <DaSkreech> Braxis: Graphical errors?
[05:14] <Braxis> I would take a picture if I could
[05:14] <Braxis> Top of the screen is checkerboarded with random colors
[05:14] <intelikey> lappy ?
[05:14] <Braxis> Screen is white with a couple of boxes
[05:14] <Braxis> No
[05:14] <DaSkreech> Braxis: Whats the resolution?
[05:14] <Braxis> A tower with geforce 7800gt
[05:14] <Braxis> The thing should support any res... however I don't know what it's trying to set
[05:14] <DaSkreech> Braxis: What monitor?
[05:15] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Dood
[05:15] <Braxis> Brand new LCD
[05:15] <intelikey> boot with    vga=normal novesafb
[05:15] <toxicfume> Okay I have already installed Kubuntu and GRUB is running nice and smooth. However, now I am going to partition to increae the linux partition from Windows XP...I assume after i finish this and restart, i have to reconfigure Grub because i modified the Linux partition (which is the boot partition)? What do I have to do in Grub?
[05:15] <Braxis> Forgot who makes it
[05:15] <Jucato> DaSkreech: hey! :-D
[05:15] <Braxis> It supports a pretty nice res
[05:15] <DaSkreech> I forget whats the refresh rate on LCD?
[05:15] <Braxis> Well I've gotten it up to about 75
[05:15] <Braxis> I'm going to try graphics safe mode
[05:16] <c0rrupt> is it possible to install XGL to kubuntu?
[05:16] <erofee> hi all
[05:16] <intelikey> c0rrupt so i hear
[05:16] <c0rrupt> cool
[05:16] <Braxis> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=127090
[05:16] <DaSkreech> !xgl
[05:16] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:16] <erofee> i upgraded k3b and now i can't burn audio CD's.  Anyone else have the problem?
[05:16] <DaSkreech> last link
[05:16] <Braxis> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=127090 <----- Howto on installing it
[05:16] <Wind> who
[05:16] <Wind> whoa
[05:17] <Wind> jon stewart is rockin a motorola pebl
[05:17] <scast> Hawkwind: can I ask you something?
[05:17] <DaSkreech> Wind: I read that as Patrick Stewart
[05:17] <Wind> oops wrong channel
[05:17] <Wind> ha
[05:17] <dr_willis> erofee,  you mean burn mp3's to an audio cd format?
[05:18] <erofee> yes
[05:18] <erofee> worked fine one day, stopped working after the upgrade
[05:18] <Braxis> Kubuntu in graphics safe mode works fine
[05:18] <dr_willis> erofee,  theres some k3b extra package ya need to install.
[05:19] <maltaethiron> hawkwind: still in here? gots another question
[05:20] <maltaethiron> ok so hes afk...can anyone tell me how to get firefox on kubuntu?  or if its possible?
[05:20] <Hawkwind> scast: Ask away
[05:20] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: Yes, I'm here
[05:20] <erofee> yep, definately possible
[05:20] <maltaethiron> hawkwind: aight good
[05:20] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox or sudo apt-get install firefox
[05:20] <scast> Hawkwind: should I use the .deb or the .tar.gz + System Setting font installer
[05:20] <scast> -_-
[05:20] <maltaethiron> hawkwind: do i just type that into konsole?
[05:20] <Ertain_> I can't seem to install compiz-kde, on the account of it breaking my install.  Also I can't seem to start up my screensaver unless I start Power Saving on my Display.
[05:21] <erofee> Ertain_: yes
[05:21] <dr_willis> maltaethiron,  :P its trivial. heh
[05:21] <Hawkwind> scast: You can download that  .tar.gz file of fonts, then use kfontview or kfontinst to install them
[05:21] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: Yes
[05:21] <erofee> sorry...maltaethiron: yes
[05:21] <maltaethiron> hawkwind: haha sorry, but im reeeeeeeeeally new to linux
[05:21] <erofee> losing my mind...
[05:21] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: No worries.  We were all there once a well
[05:21] <Wind> i know someone answered this for me before, but how do i get a pcmcia 6 in 1 card reader (for sd card) to actually... work
[05:22] <dr_willis> Wind,  build into a laptop? or a usb one?
[05:22] <Wind> something i stick in
[05:23] <maltaethiron> hawkwind: ty
[05:23] <Braxis> After I install kubuntu would it be a good idea to manually install geforce7800 drivers?
[05:23] <intelikey> Wind if you learn a little about scripting.  cause you don't like to type in long strings.    paste this in your terminal: >>>   echo -e '#!/bin/sh\n\napt-cache show $* \n' > q ;chmod 777 q     <<<  then you just type     ./q package-name       hehhe
[05:23] <DaSkreech> Braxis: Where are you getting them from?
[05:23] <Braxis> Seeing how I get some wacky graphical issues when it tries to start kde using my video card
[05:23] <Braxis> I could just get them from the nvidia site?
[05:23] <Wind> wow
[05:23] <Wind> what does all that mean
[05:23] <DaSkreech> Umm I guess
[05:24] <DaSkreech> oh Braxis You are on a Live Cd?
[05:24] <Braxis> Yeah I just realized that kubuntu is now a live cd
[05:24] <Braxis> So yeah it's in it right now
[05:24] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[05:24] <Braxis> I would like to install to the hd
[05:24] <Braxis> Which I am doing currently in graphics safe mode
[05:24] <DaSkreech> Could you pastebin your xorg.conf ?
[05:24] <Braxis> Perhaps, does ssh run by default?
[05:25] <intelikey> Braxis when you install sshd  it does
[05:25] <c0rrupt> can you use an ipod as a hardrive to install kubuntu ?
[05:26] <Braxis> Bah
[05:26] <RawSewage> ok, anyone want to know how to disable Shift+Backspace restart with Compiz?
[05:26] <intelikey> or should i specify   sshd does start at boot time.
[05:26] <kraut> moin
[05:26] <intelikey> Braxis you can change that you know.
[05:27] <dell500> how do you make a new partition onto a usb-sata?
[05:27] <Braxis> Alright
[05:27] <dell500> i done forgot :)
[05:27] <Wind> oh cool intelikey
[05:27] <Braxis> Well I'm just making sure so I can actually access it when kde's crashed or whatever it does when it tries to use my video card
[05:27] <intelikey> cfdisk /dev/blah
[05:27] <c0rrupt> wow
[05:28] <maltaethiron> hawkwind: ok stupid question: where is firefox now that it's installed?
[05:28] <farous> maltaethiron: which firefox
[05:28] <c0rrupt> you guys REALLY should like.. update the kernel
[05:29] <c0rrupt> just rooted a default kubuntu install
[05:29] <c0rrupt> ouch
[05:29] <Braxis> ouchies.
[05:29] <farous> maltaethiron: a symbolic link will be in /usr/bin
[05:29] <intelikey> Wind now open "q" with "kate" and see what that string did.     it wrote a bash script  then changed the permissions to executable.
[05:29] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: In a terminal type: mozilla-firefox or it should be in your menus
[05:29] <maltaethiron> ok thanks
[05:29] <intelikey> Wind or right click it in knoq and view it
[05:31] <Wind> interesting
[05:31] <matt____> Wind - are you from a MS windows background or another linux dist?
[05:31] <Wind> windows
[05:32] <Wind> i've never used linux before
[05:32] <Braxis> Hence the you know
[05:32] <Braxis> 'wind'
[05:32] <Wind> ?
[05:32] <Braxis> 'wind' + 'ows'
[05:32] <Braxis> :O!
[05:32] <Wind> nah
[05:32] <Wind> clever but no
[05:32] <erofee> i came from there too, about 6 months ago now...
[05:32] <matt____> how are you finding kubuntu?
[05:33] <Wind> a little frustrating at first when i can't figure out something
[05:33] <Gh0st75> same here
[05:33] <matt____> same here
[05:33] <Wind> then i come complaining in here and someone helps me :)
[05:33] <Wind> but are there books or anything i can pick up to get more into this
[05:33] <Wind> like uh... i have no clue what sudo means
[05:34] <farous> Wind: how helpfule was the documentation to you
[05:34] <erofee> the ubuntu wiki is a great resource
[05:34] <farous> did you try help.ubuntu.com
[05:34] <Wind> and terminal i kind of know how to use because of email chess
[05:34] <Wind> i've glanced at help.ubuntu.com a couple times
[05:34] <Gh0st75> got almost all my media able to play now, except my comic files, and have my fat32 drives accessable. burned my first dvd today with k3b, i love the sound it plays on completion, hehe
[05:34] <farous> Wind: if you like chess install eboard :)
[05:35] <Gh0st75> psychokatz or something similar has alot of tutorials and guides too Wind
[05:35] <farous> and then you can play online if you want or aganist one of the chess progs
[05:35] <RawSewage> Gh0st75, theres a cbz/cbr viewer in the repos
[05:35] <dr_willis> :)
[05:35] <intelikey> wind check this link
[05:35] <intelikey> !cli
[05:35] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[05:35] <RawSewage> a comic book viewer
[05:35] <Gh0st75> I saw one there called Comix, but when i try to open a cbr file it says it can't find any images inside the archive
[05:35] <RawSewage> maybe you need to install rar
[05:35] <erofee> if you want to survive in linux, you are gonna want to read the command list
[05:36] <RawSewage> I think it's  sudo apt-get install unrar non-free
[05:36] <Gh0st75> hmm, will check and see if i have that in my apt list
[05:36] <RawSewage> non-free
[05:38] <Gh0st75> i'll be darned, thanks RS
[05:38] <Gh0st75> works now if i right click and select open with
[05:41] <Gh0st75> k, i think i figured out how to associate .cbr and .cbz to have Comix as the default program, yay me
[05:41] <Gh0st75> hey it's a big step in linux intuitive-ness for me :)
[05:42] <RawSewage> Gh0st75, ok cool
[05:42] <Gh0st75> many of you use kopete?
[05:42] <RawSewage> I dont use IM
[05:42] <soulrider> Gh0st75: i used to but now it crashes everytime i open it
[05:43] <Gh0st75> i can connect to and chat on msn using it fine
[05:43] <Wind> i'm trying to mount this sd card
[05:43] <Gh0st75> but yahoo disconnects a fair bit
[05:43] <Wind> it keeps giving me this
[05:43] <Wind> mount: can't find mnt/sd in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[05:43] <Gh0st75> my main concern is webcam usage tho, i can't seem to get kopete to open a cam at all
[05:43] <Wind> but i have mnt/sd in /etc/fstab
[05:43] <soulrider> who uses webcams?
[05:43] <soulrider> :P
[05:44] <soulrider> i dont think i ever used hte webcam features
[05:44] <Gh0st75> i have friends and family abroad and webcams are nice to have
[05:44] <soulrider> ah :)
[05:44] <RawSewage> do they wave to the camera
[05:44] <soulrider> try GAIM
[05:44] <Wind> /dev/hdc1 /mnt/sd auto noauto,rw,user,exec, 0 0       in fstab
[05:44] <soulrider> maybe it works
[05:44] <RawSewage> oh nm
[05:44] <RawSewage> I was thinking of scenic webcams
[05:44] <Wind> what am i doing wrong?
[05:45] <RawSewage> I hate people webcams
[05:46] <farous> Wind: did you create a dir called sd under /media
[05:46] <Wind> ah
[05:47] <farous> Wind: you have to create the dir then mount the device on it
[05:47] <Wind> just make a new folder in media
[05:47] <Wind> right?
[05:48] <farous> Wind: depend where you want to mount it
[05:48] <c0rrupt> !resolution
[05:48] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:49] <RawSewage> or Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[05:49] <Wind> now i'm confused
[05:49] <intelikey> well reboot again.   that's the only thing  i don't like about building init.   can't test it without resetting everything.
[05:49] <RawSewage> I think youre making things more complicated than they are
[05:50] <RawSewage> Kubuntu is simple, and you shouldnt be digging very deep
[05:50] <RawSewage> if you are, youre propbably messing things up and doing it wrong
[05:50] <DaSkreech> Gh0st75: Which Webcam?
[05:51] <farous> Wind: first did it automount for you the sd card
[05:51] <Wind> i didn't have it in when i was installing
[05:51] <DaSkreech> Wind: What are you trying to do?
[05:51] <Wind> get my sd card to mount
[05:51] <Wind> the folders keep saying access denied
[05:51] <farous> Wind: what device it uses
[05:52] <Wind> a pcmcia card
[05:52] <Wind> a 6 in 1 card reader?
[05:52] <farous> Wind: i thought you know the dev name
[05:52] <farous> Wind: just forget my quest
[05:53] <Wind> ?
[05:53] <farous> wind it is hdc1 according to your fstab
[05:53] <Wind> i just put it in
[05:53] <Gh0st75> DaSkreech: Intel Pocket Pro PC
[05:53] <Wind> i did sudo fdis -l
[05:53] <farous> Wind: try this pmount /dev/hdc1
[05:53] <Wind> fdisk
[05:54] <DaSkreech> Ah I have no idea if that's supported
[05:54] <DaSkreech>  It should be
[05:54] <DaSkreech> Intel likes Linux
[05:54] <Wind> mount: mount point /mnt/sd does not exist
[05:54] <Gh0st75> yes, and it was listed as one of the detected ones
[05:54] <Gh0st75> the system shows it's detected properly, but i can't get an image to appear
[05:54] <farous> Wind: did you try the command i sent you
[05:54] <Wind> ya
[05:55] <Wind> that's what showed up
[05:55] <farous> Wind: pmount /dev/hdc1
[05:55] <farous> it should mount it under /media not /mnt
[05:55] <Gh0st75> Unable to initialize camera. Check your port settings and camera connectivity and try again
[05:55] <Wind> it keeps showing mount: mount point /mnt/sd does not exist
[05:56] <farous> !cam > Gh0st75:
[05:56] <sunmanx> when you plugged the sd card in did it create an icon on your desktop?
[05:56] <Gh0st75> i've got my router disconnected, as it kept causing disconnects with irc and yahoo
[05:56] <farous> !cam > Gh0st75
[05:56] <DaSkreech> !cam
[05:56] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[05:56] <DaSkreech> Ah cool :)
[05:56] <Wind> it didn't pop a icon on the desktop
[05:56] <farous> Wind: and you checked under media for it right
[05:56] <Wind> yeah
[05:57] <sunmanx> if you browse to /media/ do you see it in there?
[05:57] <Wind> i tried adding a folder called sd
[05:57] <Wind> but it didn;t let me
[05:57] <Wind> system:/media/hda1/mnt
[05:57] <farous> Wind: ok you can create the dir as speif in your fstab
[05:57] <Kr4t05> I'm away: Sleep
[05:57] <farous> Wind: sudo mkdir /mnt/sd
[05:58] <Wind> in my fstab i have /dev/hdc1	/mnt/sd		auto	noauto,rw,user,exec	0	0
[05:58] <Gh0st75> nifty bot, i'll do some reading at those urls at work tomorrow
[05:58] <Gh0st75> headin to bed there now, night all
[05:58] <Wind> there we go
[05:58] <farous> Wind: so do you have the dir /mnt/sd
[05:59] <Wind> thankie farous, got it
[05:59] <farous> ok :)
[05:59] <darkwolf> does kubuntu come with a c compiler?
[05:59] <Philip5> Wind: you don't need a fstab setting to mount your sd storage media... just make sure you have all the usb and sb kernel modules loaded and hal running then hal will autodetect the cam and mount it for you after a kde question
[05:59] <farous> darkwolf: gcc
[05:59] <sunmanx> yeah...check your adept package manager for gcc
[05:59] <farous> darkwolf: install build-essential package will take care of that for you
[05:59] <darkwolf> thx
[06:00] <farous> no back to anime i love those jap mystic cartoons :)
[06:00] <Wind> if i have ff can i remove konquerer?
[06:00] <Jucato> Wind: don't. Konqueror is also your file manager
[06:01] <Wind> k
[06:01] <intelikey> all well that ends in the well
[06:02] <sunmanx> internet explorer / windows explorer = konqueror web browser / konquerer file manager
[06:02] <Jucato> sunmanx: only half true
[06:02] <intelikey> explorer != konqueror
[06:02] <sunmanx> yeah..just a quick analogy =)
[06:03] <sunmanx> hah
[06:03] <Jucato> quick... but misleading. but it's ok. most people do see it that way
[06:03] <sunmanx> security.ubuntu.com is dogslow tonight
[06:05] <sunmanx> so whats the pref around here? k9copy, wine+dvdshrink, dvd::rip?
[06:05] <darkwolf> i hate to be annoying but i can't find anything to do with development in "Adept Installer" it says that there are 937 packages available and 937 installed
[06:05] <darkwolf> yet i have no development tools even available
[06:05] <Jucato> darkwolf: fresh install of Kubuntu?
[06:05] <sunmanx> your source.list is missing some stuff sounds like Darkwolf
[06:06] <darkwolf> yeah, i had to learn mandrake at uni and liked it but wasn't able to get it to run on  my system. Hence kubuntu seemed like a better alternative
[06:07] <dream0n7> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#what
[06:07] <sunmanx> check your Manage Repositories in Adept and see if maybe something 3rd party you installed overwrote your sources
[06:07] <Jucato> darkwolf: you need to enable your repositories. I think they're disabled by default when you install without being connected to the internet
[06:07] <sunmanx> like automatix or one of those
[06:07] <intelikey> !automatix
[06:07] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[06:07] <sunmanx> ah...yeah think so too..good call jucato
[06:07] <intelikey> !easyubuntu
[06:07] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[06:08] <c0rrupt> ok.. i have a windows xp installation on my harddrive which is encrypted. i have an external usb device which is not encrypted and contains 2 partitions. a FAT32 and an empty one. What i would like to attemp is to install kubuntu to my external hdd, and be able to boot to IT, my encrypted windows drive, all without destroying my FAT32 partition. Is this possible ?
[06:09] <intelikey> c0rrupt yes
[06:09] <farous> c0rrupt: can you change your boot order so you can boot from your usb drive?
[06:10] <matt____> intelikey - will c0rrupt be able to access his encrypted data?
[06:10] <sunmanx> usually something like "removable devices/drives" in your bios settings
[06:10] <intelikey> matt____ from ?
[06:10] <DaSkreech> matt____: He didnt ask that
[06:10] <matt____> kubuntu
[06:11] <intelikey> prolly not
[06:11] <sunmanx> but probably not...nfs support encryption?
[06:11] <matt____> just wondered, its was an interesting question
[06:11] <c0rrupt> i think so yes
[06:11] <c0rrupt> i should check my BIOS
[06:11] <intelikey> oh and one other thing.  if the incritpition is a mbr issue  grub will most likely hose that.
[06:12] <farous> c0rrupt: then it is easy install kubuntu on the usb drive and install grun on its MBR
[06:12] <c0rrupt> wouldnt i have to 'mark' my usb device as bootable
[06:12] <sunmanx> if you can boot from you can install linux on it (use that loosely)
[06:12] <c0rrupt> im thinking of unplugging my main hdd
[06:12] <c0rrupt> then doing a full install on the empty partition
[06:12] <c0rrupt> that should work right
[06:12] <intelikey> sounds like a plan man
[06:12] <farous> c0rrupt: you are trying to be save no harm with that
[06:13] <c0rrupt> ^ ?
[06:13] <farous> c0rrupt: if it fails there is another way just try that first
[06:13] <c0rrupt> okay
[06:13] <c0rrupt> whats the other way
[06:13] <c0rrupt> incase ur not here
[06:13] <c0rrupt> i can google around
[06:13] <farous> boot linux from the window boot manager
[06:14] <farous> install grub on the root linux installation partition
[06:14] <farous> then cpy the boot sect to window and tell it to use it for linux
[06:14] <sunmanx> yeah...think you can google the parameters for adding stuff to your windows boot.ini
[06:14] <intelikey> but not from the live cd
[06:15] <farous> c0rrupt: but i think the first approach will work just fine seen it used before
[06:15] <c0rrupt> awesome guys cool
[06:15] <c0rrupt> thanks for the info!
[06:15] <c0rrupt> gona go try it
[06:15] <sunmanx> GL!
[06:15] <c0rrupt> ;)
[06:16] <intelikey> just pointing out that the live cd  doesn't have any options hardly at all.  the installer on the live cd is like lamer than windows.   </shudders>
[06:16] <sunmanx> haha
[06:16] <farous> :)
[06:17] <darkwolf> is it possible to re-install the missing packages of the kubuntu live cd?
[06:17] <Jucato> darkwolf: there aren't any "missing" packages
[06:17] <intelikey> what missing packages ?
[06:17] <intelikey> darkwolf are you smoking crack again?
[06:18] <darkwolf> no, just learning the ropes and banging my head a lot
[06:18] <darkwolf> :)
[06:18] <sinppa_> lol, someone's trying to come to my computer trough ssh usin usernames "microsoft", "nokia", "samsung" and "candy" etc :) this is getting hilarious
[06:18] <RawSewage> really?
[06:18] <dream0n7> What does the no colors allowed refer to in these channels?
[06:18] <intelikey> ah it's the 'banging head' part that did it eeh
[06:19] <sunmanx> the login screen is just about as lame
[06:19] <sunmanx> someone go kick the security repository for me please...good grief
[06:19] <RawSewage> typing messages with colors
[06:19] <Jucato> !kick
[06:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about kick - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:19] <dream0n7> Ok
[06:19] <sinppa_> wow, is this normal? :O Aug 11 06:25:13 localhost su[8885] : + ??? root:nobody
[06:20] <intelikey> sinppa_ it's prolly a script.   if it succeeds it will alert it's owner.
[06:20] <dream0n7> How do I get the "normal" KDE menu in Kubuntu?
[06:20] <sinppa_> intelikey: aah, ok :) that scared me big time :)
[06:20] <visik7> dream0n7: normal ?
[06:21] <intelikey> sinppa_ anytime you are in doubt about things like that do a    sudo killall sshd
[06:21] <dream0n7> If i run kappfinder it doesn't really add apps to the K menu
[06:21] <intelikey> you can restart it when you need it.
[06:21] <visik7> probably removing kubuntu default-settings or something like that (even if I don't understand what you mean for normal
[06:22] <sinppa_> yeah. I should change that ssh-port to something else...
[06:23] <foot> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186
[06:23] <bearcat> hello foot
[06:23] <dream0n7> visik7: remove kubuntu default-settings -- thanks, I'll look into that.
[06:23] <Jucato> dream0n7: when you install an application, and it doesn't immediately show up in the K Menu, try typing this in Konsole: "kbuildsycoca --incremental" or just "kbuildsycoca". That will update your K Menu
[06:23] <intelikey> sinppa_ and you do have   " -:root:ALL EXCEPT LOCAL "   in your  " /etc/security/access.conf "         don't you ?
[06:24] <dream0n7> Jucato: Kewl !!
[06:24] <sinppa_> intelikey: I Have PermitRootLogin no in sshd_conf
[06:25] <igi> hi all
[06:26] <maltaethiron> hi igi
[06:26] <dream0n7> visik7: Kubuntu is a little different than what I'm used to (rh convert)
[06:26] <igi> does anyone know which package I can use to install lstdc++
[06:26] <igi> I'm tried to compile some matlab toolbox and it can't find that file
[06:27] <Jucato> dream0n7: you might need to get used to how things are mostly done in the Debian world. You're not just switching desktops and distros. you're actually switching package managers too (from RPM to DEB, from YUM to APT)
[06:27] <intelikey> igi apt-cache search lstdc   probably does
[06:27] <visik7> dream0n7: all distro have customizations
[06:27] <intelikey> maybe without the l
[06:28] <maltaethiron> hey guys, i really have been having the worst time trying to install flash player
[06:28] <dream0n7> jucato: kbuildsycoca gets error -- No database available.  Does this need privs?
[06:28] <intelikey> !flash
[06:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:28] <maltaethiron> nice
[06:31] <dream0n7> So far I think APT rocks!
[06:31] <foot> ./ivtvfwextract.pl: Can't write to path for firmware, "/lib/modules"
[06:31] <bearcat> ok
[06:32] <intelikey> igi looked at  "libgmp3-dev - Multiprecision arithmetic library developers tools "   ?
[06:34] <igi> I'm installing a bunch of libstdc++ packages, but it can't compile
[06:35] <intelikey> igi  ah  you do have build-essential installed    no?
[06:35] <intelikey> !b-e
[06:35] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:36] <bearcat> foot: ls -l /lib/modules
[06:36] <igi> fuck!!!
[06:37] <DaSkreech> !language
[06:37] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:38] <j_j> Ghello Everyone
[06:40] <igi> it is working now
[06:40] <foot> bearcat: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20249
[06:40] <Braxis> The mirror in the apt-get source list is REALLY slow... could anyone point me in the direction of a bigger list than the standard one with kubntu?
[06:40] <Hawkwind> !mirrors > Braxis
[06:41] <Braxis> Fantastic
[06:41] <Hawkwind> Braxis: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=545.0
[06:41] <Hawkwind> Braxis: That's my current sources.list there
[06:41] <Braxis> Awesome
[06:41] <Braxis> Is there a reason it's so... puny for kubuntu
[06:41] <Hawkwind> Braxis: All URL's work, and I keep the list updated regularly as URL's change/disappear or whatever
[06:41] <Braxis> It's only 2 items
[06:42] <Braxis> archive.ubuntu.com
[06:42] <Braxis> and security.ubuntu.com
[06:42] <Hawkwind> Braxis: By default that's just how it is
[06:42] <Braxis> I recall it being ALOT bigger about a year ago
[06:42] <bearcat> foot: ls pvr_*
[06:43] <maltaethiron> hey, im trying to install the flash plugin...ive got the package on my desktop..where should i move it/what should i type into konsole?
[06:44] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: Just follow the how-to the bot gave you.  It walks you through everything
[06:44] <Hawkwind> !flash
[06:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:44] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-f375cba46014e861cd5ec7643bd7c4ef05acff2b
[06:44] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: Read that part there.  It works perfectly without problems
[06:45] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: If you're doing the manual install, put the .tar.gz file anywhere you want, just as long as your normal user can access it
[06:45] <maltaethiron> hawkwind: so the package doesnt have to be in any specific file?
[06:46] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: No.  I usually create a *downloads* directory in my users home directory to save stuff to
[06:46] <maltaethiron> ah ok, thanks a lot
[06:48] <foot> bearcat:http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Howto:Ubuntu
[06:49] <maltaethiron> hawkwind: is there a reason i cant add a new folder to anywhere at all via konqueror?
[06:50] <maltaethiron> hawkwind: it says "access denied to [insert file name here] "
[06:50] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: Where are you trying to create a new directory ?
[06:50] <maltaethiron> hawkwind: nvm, got it
[06:53] <Braxis> Hawkwind, I really think something is wrong with ubuntu.com tonight
[06:53] <Braxis> Even your src list is still slow...
[06:53] <Braxis> Everything coming from ubuntu.com is max of about 40kbs
[06:54] <satempler> is there a mirror for security.ubuntu.com
[06:54] <satempler> !mirrors
[06:54] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[06:54] <Hawkwind> Braxis: Strange.  I'm getting well over 900KB/s here
[06:55] <Braxis> Er
[06:55] <Braxis> Interesting
[06:55] <Braxis> I normally push 2mbs
[06:56] <Braxis> with what exact mirror?
[06:56] <Hawkwind> Braxis: I'm using that exact sources list that is posted on my forums
[06:56] <Hawkwind> Braxis: But I'm getting top speeds from several of the mirrors
[06:56] <Braxis> =/
[06:57] <satempler> ok so no mirrors for security.ubuntu.com
[06:57] <Braxis> Might be why
[06:57] <satempler> might be me
[06:58] <satempler> might be me
[06:58] <satempler> because I am having a hard time with my router
[06:58] <satempler> it seems to not want to go faster than 2Mb/s normaly I get 8 or 9Mb/s
[06:59] <satempler> from security.ubuntu.org
[06:59] <Braxis> I would love to get more than 10kbs
[06:59] <Braxis> =/
[06:59] <satempler> right now I am getting 20KB/s
[06:59] <satempler> i am supposed to get 1000KB/s
[07:00] <Braxis> LoL....
[07:00] <Braxis> Yeah exactly
[07:00] <Braxis> I think they are having issues because that's my same problem
[07:00] <bioticpro> Help, I can't eject audio cds 90% of the time, how do I fix this?
[07:01] <satempler> ok well thats good then
[07:01] <satempler> becaues it's not me
[07:01] <satempler> lol
[07:01] <Braxis> bioticpro, you have to unmount them probably
[07:02] <Jucato> bioticpro: even when you right-click and choose "Eject"?
[07:02] <Ertain> !xgl
[07:02] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:02] <bioticpro> Jucato: yes
[07:02] <Jucato> hmm..
[07:02] <Jucato> bioticpro: do you get error messages?
[07:02] <bioticpro> Jucato: only way to get it out is logging out of kde
[07:02] <maltaethiron> hawkwind: im gonna cry, this simply isnt working...i did EXACTLY what that walkthrough page said to do
[07:03] <bioticpro> no error message
[07:03] <Jucato> bioticpro: have you tried closing any app (specially Konqueror) that browsed/used the CD?
[07:03] <satempler> damn 15min to get the k7 kernel
[07:04] <pushpop>  Question, The swap partition is the Primary or Logical?
[07:04] <satempler> pushpop: eather
[07:04] <satempler> but by default Logical
[07:04] <pushpop> crap
[07:04] <pushpop> ok
[07:04] <satempler> so hda5
[07:04] <satempler> or sda5 if SATA
[07:05] <pushpop> I partitioning the disk manually
[07:05] <pushpop> I dont know why
[07:05] <pushpop> but I am
[07:05] <pushpop> Mount Point for this partition
[07:05] <bioticpro> Jucato: yes
[07:05] <satempler> don't wory about it
[07:05] <pushpop> i dont see /swap
[07:05] <satempler> you won't
[07:05] <pushpop> What do I choose then
[07:05] <Braxis> Woo 4hrs just to update open office
[07:05] <pushpop> i have to create a swap partition no?
[07:05] <maltaethiron> ok somebody, i need help installing flash...i did exactly what the website said to do concerning installing flash
[07:06] <maltaethiron> the ubuntu website*
[07:06] <satempler> it would be somthing like  /dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0       0
[07:06] <satempler> in fstab
[07:06] <satempler> maltaethiron: using konqueror ?
[07:07] <bioticpro> Jucato: right clicking on the cd icon on desktop just has options for play/extract/copy audio and eject, nothing for unmount, all programs are closed
[07:07] <bearcat> foot: xhost +localhost
[07:07] <maltaethiron> satempler: yes
[07:07] <satempler> maltaethiron: you need to tell konqueror to scan for plugins
[07:07] <Braxis> LOL 500b/s then... 500kbs ... then 300b/s <3 security.ubuntu.com mirror
[07:08] <satempler> times out here
[07:08] <Jucato> bioticpro: sometimes, there are still processes running in the background that would seem to be still using/reading the CD... notably sometimes a preloaded konqueror. You can check by pressing Ctrl+Esc
[07:08] <Braxis> it hasn't gotten that bad for me yet
[07:08] <Braxis> ... just hit 200bs
[07:08] <satempler> maltaethiron: settings Configure Konqueror
[07:09] <satempler> click on plugins then scan for plugins
[07:09] <maltaethiron> satempler: ok i did.  I extracted the tar.gz file to a designated folder, added that folder to the "Scan Folders" part of "Configure Konqueror", and clicked scan for plugins
[07:09] <satempler> ok
[07:09] <maltaethiron> satempler: then i clicked on the plugins tab and it still just said "Netscape plugins"
[07:09] <satempler> why not sudo apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree
[07:10] <Jucato> err.. shouldn't he just be doing "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"?
[07:10] <maltaethiron> i tryed that earlier...but i didnt have it extracted, ill try it again, hold on
[07:10] <satempler> ya thats what it is
[07:10] <Jucato> satempler: flashplugin-nonfree...
[07:10] <satempler> right
[07:10] <Jucato> maltaethiron: try "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" in Konsole
[07:10] <bearcat> foot: O.o
[07:11] <maltaethiron> aight
[07:11] <bearcat> foot: ok, so now your looking at the file?
[07:11] <foot> bearcat: yup
[07:11] <bioticpro> Jucato: there was an instance of konq, killed it, nothing else running that would use the cd, still won't eject
[07:11] <bearcat> foot: ok. cool
[07:11] <maltaethiron> jucato: "couldnt find the package" it says
[07:11] <foot> bearcat: and?
[07:11] <bearcat> one moment
[07:12] <Jucato> maltaethiron: I think you don't have "multiverse" repositories enabled...
[07:12] <foot> bearcat: would you like to see it?
[07:12] <Jucato> maltaethiron: hold on a sec...
[07:12] <bearcat> yeah
[07:12] <maltaethiron> ok
[07:12] <satempler> ya multiverse
[07:12] <maltaethiron> *stares as they all speak linux gibberish
[07:12] <Jucato> maltaethiron: https://help.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/extra-repositories.html <---- follow the guide about Adding Extra Repositories
[07:13] <foot> bearcat: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20253
[07:13] <maltaethiron> ok thanks, now what exactly does that mean?
[07:13] <satempler> Braxis: 86% of 22.2MB done and holding
[07:13] <maltaethiron> hehe
[07:13] <Jucato> maltaethiron: err?? read the link I gave?
[07:13] <maltaethiron> k
[07:15] <Braxis> lol
[07:15] <satempler> ok this is very bad
[07:15] <Braxis> C0rrupt just had the same issue with kubuntu's live CD
[07:16] <bioticpro> Jucato: any other ideas?  (maybe just a bug, I am using breezy still, am on dialup so have put off upgrading)
[07:16] <Braxis> Massive graphical issues when trying to go into kde without graphics safe mode
[07:16] <satempler> how can you tell people linux is better and the servers be so slow
[07:16] <Braxis> And system locked up
[07:16] <bearcat> foot: the lines to remove the # on mentioned in the how-to are not accurate as this file has changed over time.
[07:17] <satempler> what I think is that the servers are being hammered and they don't have enough but this is speculation because they never tell us
[07:17] <foot> bearcat: ok, which ones need to be removed or changed or do we go elsewhere?
[07:18] <satempler> i looked at it and it slowed down
[07:18] <satempler> lol
[07:19] <Ranma2264> I just wanna know if someone is having issues with kde 3.5.4 and hal cause after I upgrade kde, media:/ does not show my unmounted hard disks
[07:20] <satempler> damn that took a long time /me thinks had better downloads from dialup
[07:20] <bearcat> foot the lines aren
[07:20] <bearcat> foot: are not in your file at all
[07:20] <bearcat> foot: here's what to do
[07:20] <foot> bearcat: ok so do I turn in the card and get a better one?
[07:21] <Braxis> satempler, I said the exact same thing
[07:21] <bearcat> foot: not quite yet
[07:21] <Braxis> "I've deffinately seen faster speeds on dialup"
[07:21] <maltaethiron> still no flashplayer guys...
[07:21] <satempler> lol
[07:22] <bearcat> let's make a back up of your file b4 we go messing things up...i mean getting it working
[07:22] <bearcat> foot: well this is a minor change
[07:22] <foot> ok which files?
[07:23] <noaXess_kubuntu> !mp3
[07:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:23] <Glin|Jol> Winamp  5.24 Stopped
[07:23] <bearcat> foot: you have the sources.list file open in vim, right?
[07:23] <foot> bearcat: yes
[07:24] <bearcat> foot: using Pagedown move to the bottom of the file
[07:24] <foot> bearcat: ok
[07:24] <maltaethiron> guys, im refusing to go to bed until flash player works or i pass out...whichever comes first
[07:24] <bearcat> foot: and move to the end of the last line
[07:24] <foot> bearcat: ok
[07:25] <noaXess_kubuntu> good morning all..
[07:25] <bearcat> foot: hit enter to give you a new blank line
[07:25] <Philip5> maltaethiron: then we wait until you pass out... maybe we can start a bet on when that will be... :)
[07:26] <bearcat> foot: in the web page we are following, do you see where he says "My final sources.list file is here."?
[07:26] <maltaethiron> philip5: haha, frick man
[07:26] <foot> bearcat: no such luck. 1st, I connot got out on the line past the last letter, 2nd no return service
[07:26] <bearcat> foot: hit the "i" key
[07:26] <maltaethiron> philip5: like seriously im so tired...but this damn thing's gonna work before the sun rises...
[07:26] <noaXess_kubuntu> i have installed the mp3 support... local mp3 files will work.. but if i open a mp3 from a smb share.. amarok says, no suitable input plugin.. installed is xine
[07:27] <Philip5> maltaethiron: have you used apt to install it from a repo?
[07:27] <Ranma2264> is anyone having issues with hal and kde 3.5.4?
[07:27] <bearcat> foot: that should put you in insert mode (i think you may like emacs more then vim, but we'll deal with that later)
[07:27] <Philip5> Ranma2264: nope, works like clockwork
[07:27] <foot> bearcat: yup
[07:28] <bearcat> foot: now that you are in insert mode try entering a new line
[07:28] <foot> bearcat: so click on his, or her, sources list.
[07:28] <bearcat> yeah
[07:28] <Ranma2264> because after i upgraded hal does not show me unmounted hard disks
[07:28] <maltaethiron> philip5: uh...i dont think so.  i know that i downloaded the package, and extraced it to a designated folder and did EVERY bloody thing that the damn ubuntu wiki said about installing flash player
[07:28] <foot> bearcat: do I copy the whole thing?
[07:28] <bearcat> nope
[07:29] <bearcat> foot: one moment
[07:30] <maltaethiron> philip5: and whenever i do sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree, it just says that it cant find the package
[07:30] <bearcat> foot: the "#" at the begining of the line means "computer, ignore this line. It is a comment"
[07:30] <thompa> malttaethiron: did you search flashplugin
[07:30] <bearcat> foot: so we are only interested in the lines without the leading #
[07:30] <Philip5> maltaethiron: just enable the multiverse repo in your /etc/apt/sourcelist and then do a 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree'
[07:30] <maltaethiron> search where thompa?
[07:30] <thompa> malttaethiron: o i just had the same problem
[07:31] <foot> bearcat: ok, I just copy those complete?
[07:31] <thompa> first is universe enabled ?
[07:31] <bearcat> foot: on lines 19 and 20 you should see lins that end with "breezy universe multiverse"
[07:31] <maltaethiron> so do i just change everything that says "universe" in etc/apt/sourcelist to "universe multiverse"?
[07:31] <thompa> malttaethiron: do you have the universe repositories enabled?
[07:31] <foot> bearcat: yes
[07:32] <maltaethiron> i think so thompa
[07:32] <Philip5> maltaethiron: i think not if apt doesn't find it :)
[07:32] <thompa> malttaethiron: leave unchecked at least the last 4 repos i think
[07:32] <maltaethiron> thompa and philip5: i just went through a thing to enable universe and multiverse repos
[07:32] <bearcat> foot: copy those two lines into your file by highlighting them with your mouse, then click in the vim window where you want the lines to go and press down your mouse wheel
[07:33] <thompa> search for flashplugin
[07:33] <foot> bearcat: done
[07:33] <maltaethiron> search where?
[07:33] <bearcat> foot: ok, and it looks good?
[07:33] <thompa> only that word. if thats what you want. in synaptic
[07:33] <foot> bearcat: direct copy
[07:34] <thompa> malttaethiron: you want flashplugin non free right?
[07:34] <maltaethiron> right
[07:34] <Philip5> maltaethiron: but don't forget to run a update first if you just enabled the multiverse repo... otherwise you won't see what's in it
[07:34] <maltaethiron> philip5: what update?
[07:34] <thompa> right in command line do apt-get update
[07:34] <maltaethiron> gotacha
[07:34] <thompa> in synaptic refresh
[07:34] <maltaethiron> gotcha*
[07:34] <bearcat> foot: good. Now we want to write the file to disk and quit. So we hit the esc key and then hit :wq
[07:34] <thompa> reload
[07:35] <maltaethiron> Permission denied
[07:35] <foot> bearcat: done
[07:35] <thompa> malttaethiron: do reload then search for word "flashplugin"
[07:35] <thompa> sudo first
[07:35] <Philip5> maltaethiron: you have to be root or sudo it
[07:35] <maltaethiron> where? in konsole?
[07:36] <maltaethiron> ok
[07:36] <thompa> type "sudo apt-get update
[07:36] <bearcat> foot: cool! Now hit the uparrow to go back to the vim command, but replace the "vim" with "cat" so we can verify that the last two lines are there
[07:36] <thompa> malttaethiron: are you using konsole or syanptic
[07:36] <maltaethiron> w00t----update = gotten
[07:36] <maltaethiron> konsole
[07:36] <thompa> malttaethiron: now look for it
[07:36] <bearcat> foot: the cat command means concatinate and send to standard output (your console)
[07:37] <maltaethiron> in konsole or in konqueror?
[07:37] <thompa> or apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[07:37] <foot> bearcat: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20256
[07:38] <thompa>  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[07:38] <foot> bearcat: looks good
[07:38] <thompa> if its not there then your repos are messed up
[07:38] <bearcat> foot: not quite
[07:38] <maltaethiron> god, how could my repos be messed up?
[07:39] <bearcat> foot: but close
[07:39] <thompa>  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[07:39] <maltaethiron> because its still not working
[07:39] <maltaethiron> i did that
[07:39] <thompa> what was result?
[07:39] <bearcat> foot: run the vim command, again we need to make a minor change
[07:39] <maltaethiron> wierd.....it's doing something different now
[07:39] <thompa> maltaethiron: heh
[07:40] <foot> bearcat: ok I am back in the insert at the bottome of the thing
[07:40] <maltaethiron> now it says: invalid operation
[07:40] <maltaethiron> it never said that before
[07:40] <maltaethiron> wait wait, im an idiot
[07:40] <maltaethiron> hold on
[07:40] <thompa> what
[07:40] <bearcat> foot: change the "breezy-security" to "breezy" in both lines
[07:41] <Philip5> maltaethiron: we won't disagree with that statement until proven otherwise :)
[07:41] <bearcat> foot: so they both should end like "breezy universe multiverse"
[07:41] <maltaethiron> hehehe
[07:41] <thompa> if you check everything in repositories you get some errors about duplicates
[07:41] <maltaethiron> philip5: here's what i get when i do the sudo apt-get
[07:42] <thompa> no big deal
[07:42] <maltaethiron> paul@paul-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[07:42] <maltaethiron> Reading package lists... Done
[07:42] <maltaethiron> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:42] <maltaethiron> E: Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree
[07:42] <maltaethiron> paul@paul-laptop:~$
[07:42] <maltaethiron> that what i get
[07:42] <thompa> open synaptic
[07:42] <Philip5> maltaethiron: have you run the update?
[07:42] <maltaethiron> i did
[07:42] <maltaethiron> synaptic, hold on
[07:43] <foot> bearcat:  ok
[07:43] <maltaethiron> ok, dont have synaptic
[07:43] <bearcat> and then save with esc key then :wq
[07:44] <thompa> maltaethiron: sorry thats what i use
[07:44] <foot> bearcat: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20257
[07:44] <maltaethiron> thompa: and i get it how?
[07:44] <thompa> maltaethiron: but you need to enable universe repos, then update and its there
[07:45] <bearcat> foot: as a side note, paste-bin would have been awesome when i was doin tech support 10 years ago
[07:45] <thompa> apt-get install synaptic
[07:45] <maltaethiron> thompa: i know how to: i right click on the line that says "universe" and click enable
[07:45] <toxicfume> can someone please help me with partitioning? I already have kubuntu installed on a 3GB partition, but now I guess I need more capacity and i've tried increasing the capacity but it just wont work, can someone please help me? thanks
[07:45] <thompa> in kde there is something else but thats what i use
[07:45] <foot> be I am sure! I have fallen in love with it in the last 4 days.
[07:46] <thompa> do it to all of them
[07:46] <foot> bearcat: I am sure! I have fallen in love with it in the last 4 days.
[07:46] <Hawkwind> !repos
[07:46] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:46] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: Follow that info on that second URL
[07:46] <maltaethiron> i did, then i click apply, and they went grey again
[07:46] <thompa> maltaethiron: how did you edit the sources?
[07:47] <jimmy> does anyone know how to change the home folder from bash?
[07:47] <bearcat> foot: i think i have been steerig you slighly askew. i think we were looing at 2 differnet sections
[07:47] <Hawkwind> jimmy: What do you mean exactly ?
[07:47] <thompa> after you edit the sources you must do "apt-get update"
[07:47] <jimmy> well, my Home directory variable was erased
[07:47] <maltaethiron> thompa: (im downloading sympantic btw) i edited the sources via adept
[07:47] <jimmy> and i need to reset it
[07:47] <foot> bearcat: awww shit
[07:47] <thompa> then apt-get install "whatever"
[07:47] <Hawkwind> foot: Please watch the language
[07:47] <bearcat> foot: you want those lines to look like "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse
[07:47] <bearcat> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse"
[07:47] <thompa> adept sucks
[07:47] <jimmy> its a long story involving sudo and mv
[07:48] <Hawkwind> jimmy: I'm still not understanding your question, sorry
[07:48] <thompa> adept my second head mate
[07:48] <jimmy> the Home directory bash variable is not set, so it defaults to /
[07:48] <Hawkwind> foot: You're using breezy ?
[07:48] <jimmy> i need to change it to /home/jimmy
[07:48] <bearcat> Hawkwind: we're just following web page
[07:49] <bearcat> Hawkwind: i am a stranger to apt-get, but not to linux
[07:49] <thompa> maltaethiron: ok so open synaptic
[07:49] <Hawkwind> jimmy: So you moved /home/jimmy to somewhere else ??
[07:49] <jimmy> I have tried setting it like a normal bash variable (HOME=/home/jimmy)
[07:49] <thompa> maltaethiron: or do you give up
[07:49] <jimmy> on accident yes, but it is all moved back
[07:49] <maltaethiron> ok, its open
[07:49] <bearcat> Hawkwind: we're trying to get mythtv installed
[07:49] <maltaethiron> thompa: not till i pass out
[07:49] <thompa> maltaethiron: click settings : repositoires
[07:49] <igi> does anyone know how can I use gcc version older than 3.4
[07:50] <Hawkwind> jimmy: If it's moved back, then I'm not sure what you're missing exactly or what you are wanting to edit/change.
[07:50] <igi> cause matlabu supports only 3.2.3
[07:50] <maltaethiron> thompa: uh, i cant, its greyed out
[07:50] <jimmy> Hawkind: I need to change the bash environmental variable
[07:50] <thompa> maltaethiron: is it still loading
[07:50] <jimmy> For some reason, it got erased
[07:51] <thompa> close it and open it with sudo first
[07:51] <Hawkwind> jimmy: Have you looked in your ~/.bashrc file ?
[07:51] <thompa> maltaethiron: open it with sudo
[07:51] <maltaethiron> do i type "sudo synaptic"?
[07:51] <thompa> yes
[07:51] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: Yes
[07:51] <maltaethiron> ok
[07:52] <thompa> click settings: reposit..
[07:52] <maltaethiron> what does sudo stand for
[07:52] <Hawkwind> Definitions of sudo on the Web:
[07:52] <Hawkwind>     * sudo (superuser do) is a program in Unix, Linux, and similiar operating systems such as Mac OS X that allows users to run programs in the guise of another user (normally in the guise of the system's superuser).
[07:52] <Hawkwind>       en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudo
[07:52] <jimmy> Hawkind: I am now
[07:52] <thompa> maltaethiron: hurry up
[07:52] <Hawkwind> Ackkk, sorry guys.  That was to be all one line
[07:52] <maltaethiron> ty
[07:52] <maltaethiron> its opened thompa
[07:52] <thompa> maltaethiron: enable everything, reload, then search
[07:53] <maltaethiron> and the repos are too
[07:53] <maltaethiron> ok
[07:53] <thompa> maltaethiron: youl get some errors , just ignore them
[07:53] <bearcat> hey foot, i think Hawkwind may hav helped me understand something. Comment out those two lines we just put in by putting a # at the beginning of the line
[07:53] <thompa> maltaethiron: then go back and remove the duplicate repos
[07:53] <jimmy> Hawkind: no mention of the HOME variable anywhere
[07:53] <foot> Hawkwind: sorry bout the language
[07:53] <bearcat> ahhh! "Breezy" is a version branch on the apt repository
[07:54] <bearcat> now i get it
[07:54] <maltaethiron> thompa: gotcha
[07:54] <foot> bearcat: ok so doest that negat them somehow?
[07:54] <Philip5> jimmy: you set that with the 'usermod' command
[07:54] <bearcat> foot: it does. I think they may not be needed. One sec
[07:54] <Philip5> jimmy: check usermod --help or man usermod
[07:54] <thompa> maltaethiron: remember to search for "flashplugin"
[07:54] <foot> bearcat: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20259
[07:54] <thompa> maltaethiron: without the  "
[07:54] <maltaethiron> right
[07:55] <maltaethiron> in konsole?
[07:55] <thompa> he he
[07:55] <thompa> synaptic
[07:55] <jimmy> Philip5: set it, now rebooting, hope this works!
[07:55] <maltaethiron> so i click on search and type in flashplugin
[07:55] <thompa> maltaethiron: in the synaptic program there is the menu buttons
[07:55] <Hawkwind> # MythTV 0.19
[07:55] <Hawkwind> deb http://home.eng.iastate.edu/~superm1 dapper main
[07:56] <thompa> did you reload
[07:56] <Hawkwind> foot: Use that URL for MythTV
[07:56] <Philip5> jimmy: no need for reboot
[07:56] <thompa> maltaethiron: reload
[07:56] <bearcat> foot: is that what you just saved? i dont see the # at the beginning of the lines we added
[07:56] <maltaethiron> and i click on the "search" button
[07:56] <jimmy> Philip5: to enter the KDE menu, yes
[07:56] <maltaethiron> i did reaload, it did a bunch of stuff
[07:56] <bearcat> Hawkwind: sweet thank you!
[07:56] <foot> no that was the last one, you said just a sec so I am waiting for the go head
[07:56] <thompa> ok search for the bugger
[07:56] <Philip5> jimmy: why?
[07:56] <bearcat> foot: ok, Hawkwind just handedus the lastest version
[07:57] <Hawkwind> bearcat: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=545.0
[07:57] <Philip5> jimmy: well do as you like
[07:57] <maltaethiron> in a sec, its still loading something
[07:57] <thompa> maltaethiron: if your running ubuntu its there
[07:57] <foot> bearcat: Hawkwind thanks
[07:57] <Hawkwind> bearcat: That's my current sources list.  The 'MythTV' section is commented out so it would need to be uncommented
[07:57] <maltaethiron> in running kubuntu
[07:57] <thompa> or kubuntu
[07:57] <maltaethiron> heh
[07:57] <thompa> im in gnome anyway
[07:57] <maltaethiron> mm, i like kde
[07:58] <maltaethiron> i have ubuntu with gnome on my desktop computer, and kubuntu on my laptop
[07:58] <thompa> im just testing gnome
[07:58] <thompa> ive been running konqueror in gnome
[07:59] <maltaethiron> i like kubuntu better, idk what it is about it...maybe its because i like blue more, lol
[07:59] <thompa> so did you find it
[07:59] <foot> supposidy gnome will run on kubutu just fine. is tat correct?
[07:59] <maltaethiron> i clicked the wrong search
[08:00] <bearcat> ok, foot back out of vim for a moment
[08:00] <foot> bearcat: ok
[08:00] <maltaethiron> ok its searching
[08:00] <thompa> some desktop shortcuts are a very small problem
[08:00] <thompa> also you must choose between kdm or gdm
[08:01] <bearcat> foot: do: cp -a /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.old
[08:01] <maltaethiron> i think i found it thompa!!!
[08:01] <foot> bearcat: done
[08:01] <maltaethiron> *does the w00t dance
[08:01] <thompa> i always use ubuntu to install first
[08:02] <maltaethiron> so thompa: i have this plugin sitting here on the left side of synaptic...whats do i do with it?
[08:02] <thompa> maltaethiron: its not going to work on all sites
[08:02] <maltaethiron> duncare, its flash
[08:02] <maltaethiron> as long as i can watch homestar runner
[08:03] <thompa> select it and install it then go to a flash web site
[08:03] <c0rrupt`> hello, having problems installing to my disk
[08:03] <bearcat> foot: ok go into that file again with vim and remove the 2 lines we just added at the bottom
[08:03] <c0rrupt`> the usb drive
[08:03] <c0rrupt`> its stuck 14% on "Dectecting file systems"
[08:03] <bearcat> foot: let me know if you need any help wiht that
[08:03] <c0rrupt`> is that normal?
[08:03] <thompa> maltaethiron: there is one music site i really need to see, wont work
[08:03] <maltaethiron> how do i install it...do i so apt-get install?
[08:04] <thompa> maltaethiron: select apply etc
[08:04] <thompa> maltaethiron: forget apt-get install, thats command line
[08:04] <foot> bearcat: done
[08:05] <bearcat> foot: now add these two lines at the bottom: deb http://home.eng.iastate.edu/~superm1 dapper main
[08:05] <bearcat> deb-src http://home.eng.iastate.edu/~superm1 dapper main
[08:05] <maltaethiron> you know what thompa? theres not actually a package there...i was looking at the left side of the screen; the search querry
[08:05] <thompa> maltaethiron: he he
[08:05] <maltaethiron> thompa: so really there isnt anything there
[08:05] <foot> bearcat: done
[08:06] <foot> bearcat: back out now?
[08:06] <bearcat> yeah
[08:06] <thompa> maltaethiron: did you click on all the boxes in repositories
[08:06] <bearcat> and show it to me (baby!)
[08:06] <maltaethiron> i did sir
[08:06] <foot> bearcat: done
[08:06] <thompa> maltaethiron: go back there do edit on each box, check the universe there
[08:07] <maltaethiron> roger that
[08:07] <thompa> maltaethiron: your running 6.0.6 right?
[08:07] <maltaethiron> mhmm
[08:08] <thompa> it doesnt matter
[08:08] <maltaethiron> all of the repos are checked...should i changed them to universe if they dont say universe?
[08:08] <thompa> yes
[08:08] <bearcat> foot: apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
[08:08] <thompa> then reload search again
[08:08] <thompa> :-$
[08:09] <Braxis> bearcat, yeah if he wants to wait for 24 hours downloading
[08:09] <bearcat> eep!
[08:09] <bearcat> foot: abort that with cntrl=c
[08:09] <Braxis> The mirrors are almost dead
[08:09] <Braxis> Tonight at least
[08:09] <bearcat> cntrl-c
[08:09] <maltaethiron> thompa: what about the ones that say universe multiverse?
[08:09] <foot> bearcat: luckily I was pouring coffee
[08:10] <thompa> the new ubuntu disks have the latest updates on them inc. kernel i think
[08:10] <bearcat> Braxis: so how does one reindex the package listing to include the apt repositories one just added
[08:10] <thompa> maltaethiron: check everything universe mutiverse
[08:11] <Snowmadic> greetings.
[08:11] <Snowmadic> I was wondering if someone might have time to help me with a couple problems I'm having with this kubuntu install.
[08:11] <thompa> maltaethiron: then reload
[08:12] <thompa> its same as update
[08:12] <maltaethiron> realoading now
[08:13] <thompa> maltaethiron: good its going to work now, if you get errors its because of a duplicate repos, just go back and uncheck it
[08:13] <maltaethiron> ok
[08:13] <maltaethiron> i got like 4 errors
[08:13] <thompa> i cant make head or tale of the repos list anyway
[08:13] <thompa> just close it
[08:13] <Snowmadic> when I try to install something, apt-get invariably can't find it.
[08:13] <maltaethiron> rock on
[08:14] <Snowmadic> I've updated the package lists, and am just trying to install bitchx.
[08:14] <thompa> maltaethiron: now search for that package
[08:14] <Snowmadic> and maybe thunderbird
[08:14] <Snowmadic> :P
[08:14] <maltaethiron> snowmadic: is what you're trying to install nonfree?
[08:14] <bearcat> foot: do apt-get update
[08:14] <excitatory> i'm really having trouble with konqueror accessing the standard gmail interface.. no matter what browser id i choose, it doesn't work.
[08:15] <maltaethiron> because im having a very similer problem
[08:15] <bearcat> foot: "apt get update"
[08:15] <Braxis> Is kubunto not made for recent nvidia cards or something?
[08:15] <Braxis> Kubuntu*
[08:15] <bearcat> foot: arrgh .i'm tired
[08:15] <maltaethiron> what makes you ask that?
[08:15] <excitatory> Braxis: no..
[08:15] <Braxis> Well so far I've had 3 friends
[08:15] <bearcat> foot: "apt-get update"
[08:15] <Braxis> And myself
[08:15] <Snowmadic> afaik, bitchx is free
[08:15] <thompa> flash is in multiverse
[08:15] <Braxis> Basically have kde crash when kubuntu tries to get into it
[08:16] <maltaethiron> *does the w00t dance...for REAL this time thompa!!
[08:16] <maltaethiron> w000000000t
[08:16] <Braxis> Graphical errors + completely locks up
[08:16] <foot> bearcat: wait I am tied too amd messed up with the paste button let me show you
[08:16] <excitatory> Braxis: have you tried installing the nvidia provided drivers?
[08:16] <thompa> maltaethiron: so if you feel like it go back and eliminate other than mutiverse
[08:16] <maltaethiron> damnit!
[08:16] <Braxis> excitatory, the live cd doesn't even work.
[08:17] <maltaethiron> thompa: it says its not installable, what kinda crap is it pullin on me here?
[08:17] <Braxis> You would kind of assume it would you know... have drivers on it that would actually allow it to display something
[08:17] <thompa> maltaethiron: whats the error
[08:17] <rachel> hi guys
[08:17] <c0rrupt> mine crashes too
[08:17] <maltaethiron> flashplugin-nonfree:
[08:17] <maltaethiron>  Depends: gsfonts-x11  but it is not installable
[08:17] <excitatory> Braxis: the livecd and default install uses a generic driver..
[08:17] <maltaethiron> thats it
[08:17] <rachel> can I ask a question about korganizer and karm
[08:18] <c0rrupt> excitatory, how would someone install it..
[08:18] <c0rrupt> the os crashes on boot
[08:18] <excitatory> Braxis: try installing the nvidia drivers  (kubuntu cannot distribute them)
[08:18] <foot> bearcat: I dont think there is any damage but...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20261
[08:18] <thompa> maltaethiron: install it
[08:18] <maltaethiron> thompa: did you see the error up there?
[08:18] <maltaethiron> install it how?
[08:18] <Braxis> Well then why would it attempt to use the generic ones which seem to not work with recent nvidia cards?
[08:18] <maltaethiron> in konsole?
[08:18] <excitatory> c0rrupt: you don't need x to install drivers
[08:18] <thompa> your using synaptic
[08:19] <c0rrupt> how do i go to a command lin
[08:19] <c0rrupt> w/o launching kde
[08:19] <maltaethiron> but dude, its "not installable"
[08:19] <excitatory> c0rrupt: does the login manager (kdm) come up even?
[08:19] <thompa> maltaethiron: gsfonts is not?
[08:19] <Braxis> LOL
[08:20] <foot> bearcat: apt-get update seems to be working beautifuly, exept for hellion doesnt have the appropriate sid releases.. something tells me that isnt a problem
[08:20] <maltaethiron> what thompa?
[08:20] <excitatory> ?
[08:20] <thompa> maltaethiron: ?
[08:21] <c0rrupt> well
[08:21] <bearcat> foot: did you paste all that stuff into your file? O.o
[08:21] <c0rrupt> it comes up
[08:21] <c0rrupt> then freezes
[08:21] <maltaethiron> gsfonts is not....you just said that...and that means what to me
[08:21] <c0rrupt> oh ic
[08:21] <c0rrupt> ya brax
[08:21] <c0rrupt> er actually
[08:21] <c0rrupt> no dude
[08:21] <c0rrupt> lol
[08:21] <thompa> maltaethiron: did you istall gsfonts
[08:21] <c0rrupt> it doesnt come up
[08:21] <c0rrupt> cause it auto logs in
[08:21] <c0rrupt> soooooo
[08:21] <c0rrupt> wtf are u talking about?
[08:21] <excitatory> what?  why would you set up your box to auto-login?
[08:22] <maltaethiron> apperently not..would i get that through konsole?
[08:22] <c0rrupt> ,........
[08:22] <c0rrupt> its a live cd
[08:22] <foot> bearcat: I had copied to patebin and when I went to copy yours It still had the pastebin transfer safed so yes, but it refused it... I think
[08:22] <c0rrupt> can i please talk to a dev or something
[08:22] <excitatory> argh
[08:22] <Braxis> Dev really needs to know about this.
[08:22] <c0rrupt> excitatory, either we are on the wrong page here
[08:22] <excitatory> please specify these things
[08:22] <excitatory> well anyway
[08:22] <c0rrupt> omfg.. he did
[08:23] <bearcat> foot: do a "cat" on the file and see if it looks ok. It should be obvious if it's all fsked up
[08:23] <c0rrupt> ok lets start over
[08:23] <c0rrupt> hi
[08:23] <thompa>  maltaethiron: leave synaptic open, stick with one app
[08:23] <c0rrupt> there is a problem with the kubuntu LIVE cd
[08:23] <excitatory> wait, whose machine are we talking about?
[08:23] <Braxis> The shipped default drivers with Kubuntu DO NOT WORK with recent geforce 7xxx's
[08:23] <c0rrupt> mine and braxis
[08:23] <Braxis> Simple as that
[08:23] <c0rrupt> we have the same carf
[08:23] <c0rrupt> card*
[08:23] <maltaethiron> thompa:i searched for gsfonts in synaptic
[08:23] <c0rrupt> so basically
[08:23] <thompa>  maltaethiron: search for it and install it
[08:23] <c0rrupt> you need to fix your drivers
[08:23] <thompa> and
[08:23] <excitatory> alright, makes sense now, was rather confusing.
[08:23] <maltaethiron> roger
[08:23] <c0rrupt> b/c they dont work on grforce 7800 gt
[08:23] <c0rrupt> ok good
[08:24] <thompa>  maltaethiron: also here is the step by step  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[08:24] <visik7> Braxis: works for me
[08:24] <foot> bearcat: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20263
[08:24] <visik7> Braxis: I've a 7400 card and all 3d work smoothly
[08:25] <Braxis> Fine... 7800
[08:25] <c0rrupt> 7800
[08:25] <c0rrupt> ^^
[08:25] <thompa> maltaethiron: step 10 on that link
[08:25] <c0rrupt> GT
[08:25] <excitatory> visik7: is that w/ the vesa or nvidia driver?
[08:25] <Braxis> We both have the same card... both have the same issues
[08:25] <maltaethiron> thompa: its installing gsfonts right now
[08:25] <Braxis> After an install of kubuntu it's using the 'vesa' driver
[08:25] <visik7> excitatory: I don't think that 3d works smoothly with vesa :)
[08:25] <thompa> maltaethiron: also on that page at the top is "before you start" section
[08:25] <visik7> and btw kubuntu use nv not vesa by default
[08:26] <excitatory> visik7: well, we're talking about livecds here
[08:26] <Braxis> So why the hell would it use vesa by default
[08:26] <excitatory> ah, yes, you're right
[08:26] <excitatory> my bad.
[08:26] <Braxis> Both c0rrupt and I just looked and it's deffinately using vesa by default
[08:26] <visik7> is a live cd
[08:26] <visik7> i ok with vesa
[08:26] <bearcat> foot: i think i may see the "sid" problem. on line 42 it looks like you hit the tab key between "deb" and "http"
[08:26] <c0rrupt> ok well
[08:26] <excitatory> nv is a poor driver, but mostly works since there's really no other option due to liscensing
[08:27] <thompa> Braxis: nvidia cards?
[08:27] <Braxis> Indeed
[08:27] <Braxis> geforce 7800gt
[08:27] <Snowmadic> 7800gt I think he said
[08:27] <Braxis> We both have the same card and the same issues
[08:27] <foot> bearcat:ok I'll fix that
[08:28] <Braxis> After I install kubuntu in graphics safe mode it works... however after looking at xorg's config I found that it was using the vesa driver
[08:28] <thompa> Braxis: is the nvidia driver the problem?
[08:28] <Snowmadic> interesting.  paring back most of the video goodies makes this quite the useable machine.  less eye-candy, but for $5, a workable laptop is reasonable ;)
[08:28] <c0rrupt> we want to install the correct nvidia drivers
[08:28] <c0rrupt> after we have installed
[08:28] <c0rrupt> however the xorg.conf is .. fucked?
[08:29] <thompa> Braxis: so after you nvidia-glx enable you edited xorg.conf right?
[08:29] <Braxis> Indeed
[08:29] <thompa> and you changed vesa to nvidia
[08:29] <visik7> btw you can create a custom livecd with nvdia driver
[08:29] <Braxis> Somewhere along the line something must have went fubared because after I did that kubuntu wouldn't even try to boot
[08:29] <Snowmadic> the livecd is interesting in some respects anyway.  on a laptop, that has a choice of either 640x480 or 800x600, not all of the install dialogues even fit on the screens, leaving you tab selecting buttons and hoping that you're on "next" not "cancel" :)
[08:29] <Braxis> I'm just reinstalling so I'll see what happens
[08:30] <foot> bearcat: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20264
[08:30] <excitatory> Snowmadic: agreed.. you should file a bug report..
[08:30] <thompa> maltaethiron: go back and install flashplugin?
[08:31] <c0rrupt> same lol
[08:31] <maltaethiron> i installed a bunch of gsfonts stuff, but i get the same error
[08:31] <Braxis> I deffinately miss the old installer
[08:31] <bearcat> foot: looks much better. Now try the "apt-get update" again and see of you see any sid errors
[08:32] <Snowmadic> excitatory: not a bad idea.
[08:32] <thompa> maltaethiron: sorry im out of ideas, follow that link page
[08:32] <foot> bearcat: no sid errors
[08:32] <bearcat> awesome
[08:32] <thompa> maltaethiron: somewhere you are missing a step
[08:33] <Snowmadic> it was quite frustrating, really.  I'm more comfortable with gnome, but kubuntu actually allowed me to install, whereas the gnome setup seems to have at least one error in the tab order of it's forms that prevents me from getting past the time zone selection screen.
[08:33] <thompa> maltaethiron: there a flash manual install also
[08:33] <maltaethiron> yeah, ive frickin tried everything...gahh
[08:34] <foot> bearcat: now back to the setup?
[08:34] <maltaethiron> ima see what the flash website says
[08:34] <foot> bearcat: hyams right?
[08:34] <bearcat> foot: i'm looking something up.
[08:34] <thompa> maltaethiron: im clueless, make sure you did an upgrade first
[08:35] <maltaethiron> that sudo apt-get update right?
[08:35] <bearcat> foot: i think i found an even better page
[08:35] <Snowmadic> note to self.  running apt-get install <foo> while adept is updating == teh bad.
[08:35] <Snowmadic> still no sound :(
[08:35] <foot> bearcat: cool
[08:35] <Snowmadic> grr.
[08:36] <Snowmadic> trying to get sound up under kde with the built in es1978 (Maestro) on this laptop.  worked from the live cd, doesn't work from the installed OS
[08:36] <Snowmadic> suggestions, folks?
[08:36] <foot> Snowmadic: I found that same problem my first night on linux
[08:36] <bearcat> foot: you have an PVR-150?
[08:36] <foot> bearcat: yes
[08:37] <Snowmadic> foot: hmm?  same sound card?  This is far from my first night in linux, just my first week trying ubuntu.  This machine worked like a top running debian 3.0 sarge, just thought I'd try something new.  So far the "new" has been a headache ;)
[08:38] <bearcat> Snowmadic: i was asking him what tv card he had, exactly
[08:38] <Snowmadic> er, I was replying to: "[00:36]  <foot> Snowmadic: I found that same problem my first night on linux"
[08:39] <foot> Snowmadic: I havent been following your full dialog, it is my 5th night with linux, on kubuntu. I have been trying to install a pvr card. I was talking about adept update and apt-get
[08:39] <bearcat> ok, foot this page looks even better: http://www.quietglow.com/docs/ubuntumythtv.html
[08:39] <Snowmadic> foot: ah, yes.  that was absentmindedness on my part.
[08:39] <Snowmadic> worked 14(ish) hours today.
[08:40] <Snowmadic> probably not the mindset one should be tinkering with a linux box in :P
[08:41] <bearcat> foot: near the end there is some Gnome specific stuff, but don't worry. 1. we arent' gonna get that far tonight as i am going to bed soon. 2. See #1
[08:41] <c0rrupt> ok brax
[08:42] <foot> bearcat: got it
[08:42] <c0rrupt> installed and boote
[08:42] <c0rrupt> d
[08:42] <c0rrupt> it worked on usb install
[08:42] <c0rrupt> :D
[08:42] <farous> Cornellius: how did it work
[08:42] <farous> c0rrupt: sorry
[08:42] <bearcat> foot: this page doesn't require you to set up another terminal for the guys funky scripts
[08:42] <mrmusic> hey are there any reasons one would NOT want to use SSHFS or SFTP (via ssh)
[08:42] <farous> so it worked fine with you cong :)
[08:43] <foot> bearcat: ok so I just follow it along then, we hope
[08:44] <maltaethiron> thompa: im giving up for right now...i really need to sleep, its 3 in the morning, and i gotta work in 12 hours
[08:44] <c0rrupt> ?
[08:44] <bearcat> hey Hawkwind?
[08:44] <foot> bearcat: now as root I do or do not need to use the sudo. just do right?
[08:45] <bearcat> foot: you don't need "do" or "sudo"
[08:45] <gregory> i need help!!!
[08:45] <Snowmadic> i need beer!!!
[08:45] <bearcat> foot: there is no such command as "do"
[08:45] <Snowmadic> oh, wait.  fridge.
[08:45] <maltaethiron> i need sleep!!!!
[08:45] <gregory> when i download something how do i install it??
[08:45] <maltaethiron> gnight all
[08:45] <gregory> there no setup file thing
[08:46] <foot> bearcat: and I use kate instead ov gedit? or vim?
[08:46] <bearcat> foot: either way
[08:46] <Snowmadic> gregory, does it say .tar.gz on the end of the file you downloaded?
[08:46] <maltaethiron> guys, how do you do actions like how snowmadic just did?
[08:46] <gregory> um
[08:46] <bearcat> foot: well gedit is a gnome program and gnome is one of the other dekstops
[08:46] <Snowmadic> maltaethiron: /me <action>
[08:46] <gregory> no
[08:46] <maltaethiron> ty
[08:47] <foot> 777777beright
[08:47] <Snowmadic> gregory: what did you download?
[08:47] <Snowmadic> exact file name, preferably.
[08:47] <foot> bearcat: cats!!!
[08:47] <gregory> lmme 1.0   thats all it says
[08:47] <bearcat> foot: are you alright?
[08:47] <gregory> i downloaded messenger
[08:47] <maltaethiron> you get attacked foot?
[08:47] <gregory> i dont like the mesenger it comes with
[08:48] <TheHighChild> foot: Kate is a pretty heavy app, You may prefer kwrite or even nano as a text based editor
[08:48] <foot> bearcat: one of the cats likes to help on the computer
[08:48] <Snowmadic> ... as in msn messenger?
[08:48] <bearcat> foot: oh. lol
[08:48] <gregory> ye but a linux version
[08:48] <maltaethiron> hehe, cats
[08:48] <gregory> Can someone give me a good msn messenger for linux LINK please
[08:48] <Snowmadic> gregory: ok, what application is it?  there are lots of linux messengers.  I use "gaim" for instance.
[08:48] <bearcat> gregory: kopete
[08:48] <TheHighChild> gregory: Gaim will handle all protocols, aim, icq, jabber, msn, yahoo,. etc
[08:48] <Snowmadic> kopete comes with kubuntu, but sucks.
[08:49] <gregory> so il download Gaim
[08:49] <foot> TheHighChild: one thing at a time. and thank you. I am understanding vim at the moment
[08:49] <Snowmadic> gregory: sudo apt-get install gaim
[08:49] <TheHighChild> Gaim, is a GTK app but will work fine on KDE, I use it
[08:50] <Snowmadic> type that into a konsole window and that will install it automatically.
[08:50] <gregory> can someone give me the gaim link
[08:50] <foot> bearcat: so "/etc/apt/sources.lis" [New File]                              0,0-1         All  is blank. just cut and paste the text inthere? or is something not right
[08:50] <TheHighChild> any of you guys have any web-based multiplayer games that rock?
[08:50] <Snowmadic> gregory: I just did, in a way.
[08:50] <TheHighChild> something I can play from a browser
[08:50] <bearcat> foot: i'm sorry, what are you doing?
[08:50] <Snowmadic> gregory: in kubuntu ( and any debian(ish) linux), you don't need to go download it in a browser to install something.
[08:51] <bearcat> foot: oh!
[08:51] <bearcat> foot: you're reading that page.
[08:51] <bearcat> foot: we did that already. Got to step two
[08:51] <bearcat> ^Got^go
[08:51] <foot> bearcat: so apt get upgrade
[08:51] <gregory> what do i do than
[08:51] <hkallinikos> is there a wget front end for kde?
[08:51] <Snowmadic> like I said.
[08:52] <foot> :wq
[08:52] <foot> oops
[08:52] <Snowmadic> open a terminal window (konsole, under system in the K menu)
[08:52] <Snowmadic> when that's open, you should see a command line prompt, yes?
[08:53] <bearcat> foot: nope
[08:53] <Snowmadic> what you type in there is exactly this --> sudo apt-get install gaim
[08:53] <Braxis> Wow
[08:53] <Braxis> Fantastic
[08:53] <Snowmadic> braxis: hmm?
[08:53] <Braxis> Your x configuration has been altered. This script canot proceed automatically
[08:53] <bearcat> foot: start with "Step Two"
[08:53] <gregory> im downloading Gaim 2.o beta s
[08:53] <gregory> something*
[08:53] <Braxis> This is on a brand new kubuntu install
[08:53] <foot> bearcat: and if i did.....?????
[08:53] <Braxis> Following the kubuntu guide to install nvidia drivers
[08:54] <bearcat> foot: is it still running?
[08:54] <foot> yup
[08:54] <bearcat> foot: it's going to try and update all the packages on your system
[08:54] <bearcat> foot: you can let it run if you want too
[08:54] <c0rrupt`> hey brax
[08:54] <foot> bearcat: so that could take awhile
[08:54] <bearcat> foot: yeah
[08:55] <foot> bearcat: and to stop in the middle wont screw anything up?
[08:55] <Braxis> This is really REALLY getting annoying
[08:55] <bearcat> foot: but you recently upgraded, like the other night
[08:55] <bearcat> foot: i don't know if it will or not
[08:55] <foot> bearcat: yes
[08:55] <Braxis> visik7, are you still around?
[08:56] <foot> bearcat: can you get to here from work?
[08:56] <bearcat> foot: you might just let it run and go to sleep, and tackle this when you are fresher in the morning. Start with step two, where the first command will be sudo apt-get install apache2
[08:56] <bearcat> foot: yes i cna
[08:57] <Snowmadic> ok, that's new.
[08:57] <foot> bearcat: its done
[08:57] <bearcat> foot: sweet
[08:57] <_rince_> mrgn
[08:58] <Snowmadic> I just had a client say "y'know, I should have eaten that kid for lunch back when he was smaller.  There're animals that do that with the troublesome ones, maybe they've the right idea."
[08:58] <Braxis> Could someone PLEASE help
[08:58] <Braxis> c0rrupt and I are running into the same exact problems
[08:58] <Braxis> and we are following the howto's 100%
[08:58] <Snowmadic> braxis: I wish I could, but I lack a 7xxx series nv card to try it with :|
[08:58] <foot> bearcat: apache2 is going
[08:58] <Braxis> This is REALLY annoying
[08:58] <bearcat> Braxis: i'd gladly help you, but i know little about debian/kubuntu. I'm a Sourcemage user
[08:59] <bearcat> Braxis: i don;t have that card anyway
[08:59] <c0rrupt`> brax..
[08:59] <c0rrupt`> im googling around
[08:59] <c0rrupt`> ill find another howto
[09:00] <Braxis> Apparently alot of people have the same problem
[09:00] <bearcat> foot: sweet
[09:00] <gregory> can someone gime me Gaim
[09:00] <foot> bearcat: do you know an easy way to get amarok to use mp3 files?
[09:01] <Snowmadic> gregory: I've been trying to tell you the easiest way to install it on a kubuntu box.
[09:01] <Braxis> gregory, apt-get install gaim
[09:01] <Snowmadic> downloading it, or being sent a file for it is likely more complicated
[09:01] <Snowmadic> braxis: I've tried saying that 3+ times :P
[09:01] <bearcat> foot: it should do it since it uses xine (unless they turned it off)
[09:01] <gregory> how do i get it than
[09:01] <Snowmadic> gregory: ...
[09:02] <Braxis> ...?
[09:02] <gregory> yes
[09:02] <foot> bearcat: they have to turn it off on the install downloads to avoid legal issues
[09:02] <Braxis> gregory, maybe linux isn't for you
[09:02] <gregory> i just want gaim
[09:02] <Snowmadic> open. a. console.  NOW
[09:02] <bearcat> foot: ahh
[09:02] <gregory> whats that
[09:02] <gregory> i just got kubuntu today
[09:03] <bearcat> foot: i think i found it
[09:03] <Braxis> gregory, I think you need to go back to windows
[09:03] <foot> bearcat: I did the first part of putting in the flash player but desided to wait for the second part till this hassle was over
[09:03] <purple> i want to updata my amaok
[09:03] <gregory> no way
[09:03] <gregory> i hate windows
[09:03] <Braxis> gregory, or read a really big linux for dummies
[09:03] <purple> what should i do?
[09:03] <Snowmadic> like I said.  click on the menu in the lower right.  find the "system" section, and click on "konsole".  let me know when you've done this please.
[09:03] <gregory> no
[09:04] <gregory> ok
[09:04] <gregory> done
[09:04] <Snowmadic> do you have a black window now with something liike <youreusername>@<your computers name> ?
[09:04] <AmyLee> moin
[09:04] <gregory> wait
[09:04] <bearcat> foot: try apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[09:04] <gregory> konsole isnt there
[09:04] <AmyLee> hey
[09:04] <foot> tried that.
[09:05] <purple> hey there
[09:05] <purple> i want to update my amarok
[09:05] <purple> what should i do?
[09:05] <gregory> OK
[09:05] <gregory> im there
[09:05] <foot> bearcat: but when I did I wasnt root
[09:05] <gregory> snowmadic: theres a black window
[09:05] <Snowmadic> yes?  good.  in that window, type:  sudo apt-get install gaim
[09:06] <bearcat> foot: try it now :)
[09:06] <mag_> does anyone in here know what codec to download so kb3 can support burning mp3 files
[09:06] <foot> bearcat: damn but this is slow. still only 10% on the second part of step two
[09:06] <gregory> and than enter?
[09:07] <c0rrupt`> wow wtf
[09:07] <c0rrupt`> my laptop just shutdown
[09:07] <bearcat> foot: you think *thats* slow? Try using a sourcebased distro like me. It takes me hours to update kde :)
[09:07] <Snowmadic> yes
[09:07] <gregory> it said
[09:07] <gregory> Password:
[09:07] <Snowmadic> right.  now when you were installing kubuntu, you were asked to pick that.
[09:08] <Snowmadic> so what you'll enter is the password you chose at that time.
[09:08] <wildbat> hello ALL
[09:08] <gregory> ok
[09:08] <Snowmadic> and then hit enter again.
[09:08] <foot> bearcat: 45m10sec
[09:08] <Braxis> LOL
[09:08] <wildbat> anyone knows about SKIM ?
[09:08] <gregory> it wont let me type
[09:08] <bearcat> foot: it's downloading the libxine-extra codexs?
[09:08] <Snowmadic> it is, it just isn't showing you the typing.
[09:08] <Snowmadic> that's so people can't read your password.
[09:08] <gregory> o ok
[09:09] <foot> bearcat: nope the 2nd part od step 2 on the mythtv site
[09:09] <bearcat> foot: ahh
[09:09] <foot> 17%
[09:09] <gregory> ok done
[09:09] <bearcat> foot: oh yeah. mysql server is a beast!
[09:09] <gregory> now wat
[09:10] <wildbat> anyone knows about SKIM??~
[09:10] <foot> bearcat: slow damn hardware
[09:10] <gregory> it says like   couldnt find package
[09:10] <gregory> couldnt find package gaim
[09:10] <foot> 19%
[09:10] <Snowmadic> ok, type: sudo apt-get update
[09:10] <foot> heh
[09:10] <bearcat> foot: i need sleeep
[09:10] <Snowmadic> and feed it the same password
[09:11] <foot> bearcat: I will talk to you tommorrow
[09:11] <foot> bearcat: sleep well my friend
[09:11] <bearcat> foot: cool. I trust you have enough to do for now on your own.
[09:11] <gregory> ok done
[09:11] <bearcat> foot: thank you. You're pickign this stuff up faster then most. I'm proud of you.
[09:11] <foot> bearcat: yes. And thank you again
[09:11] <Snowmadic> geforce 5700 reporting the same problems as c0rrupt` and Braxis herel.
[09:12] <c0rrupt`> :(
[09:12] <Snowmadic> gregory: now try sudo apt-get install gaim again
[09:12] <Braxis> Yeah this is really annoying
[09:12] <Snowmadic> indeed.
[09:12] <Braxis> And when I try to run nvidia-glx-config enable it says I can't
[09:12] <Snowmadic> works like a top on my ati rage128, but the geforce chokes.
[09:12] <Goliath23> hi
[09:13] <Goliath23> since on of the last updates I get the KDE first time wizard every time I start kde
[09:13] <Braxis> Error: your x configuration has been altered
[09:13] <gregory> it says like done n stuff
[09:13] <foot> bearcat: it's not dificult just new, and I didnt start on the easy stuff, or read the manual first. my girlfriend wants to watch tv so that means since I talked her into this I have to make it work somehow ;] 
[09:13] <Goliath23> strange problem!
[09:13] <gregory> i havent got gaim though
[09:14] <gregory> dont i have to download it?
[09:14] <Braxis> gregory, seriously you should think about going back to windows
[09:14] <gregory> fuck of
[09:14] <Braxis> no.
[09:14] <Snowmadic> *bangs head on desk repeatedly*
[09:14] <Snowmadic> ARGH
[09:14] <Snowmadic> ok, click on the menu in the lower left, look in "internet" and tell me if gaim is there now.
[09:14] <c0rrupt`> lawl
[09:14] <c0rrupt`> @
[09:14] <gregory> noopeee
[09:14] <c0rrupt`> intranet
[09:15] <Braxis> Snowmadic, you know what's wierd
[09:15] <Braxis> Suse had exactly the same problem for me
[09:15] <gregory> do i have to downloasd gaim 1st? and than do that konsole thing?
[09:15] <Snowmadic> no.
[09:15] <Braxis> It locked up before entering kde/gnome
[09:15] <gregory> o
[09:15] <Braxis> With graphical issues
[09:15] <Snowmadic> the whole point of apt-get is that it downloads it for you
[09:15] <gregory> o
[09:15] <Snowmadic> that's what I've been trying to say for the past 45min :)
[09:15] <c0rrupt`> LOL
[09:15] <gregory> why dosent it work than:(
[09:16] <Braxis> Snow, you have to realize that the servers are so slow right now it will take him about 45min just to download gaim from apt-get
[09:16] <Snowmadic> pebkac
[09:16] <Braxis> Indeed
[09:16] <Snowmadic> took me about 1m30s when testing this before suggesting it :\
[09:16] <Braxis> gregory, let me explain this to you
[09:16] <gregory> ok
[09:16] <Braxis> Your problem exists between your keyboard and chair
[09:16] <Snowmadic> gregory: did it completely finish and go back to the prompt?
[09:16] <c0rrupt`> LOL
[09:16] <mag_> does anyone in here know what codec to download so kb3 can support burning mp3 files
[09:17] <gregory> i dont no
[09:17] <mag_> does anyone in here know what codec to download so kb3 can support burning mp3 files
[09:17] <c0rrupt`> mag_, spamming wont make people help you any faster, just annoy them
[09:17] <Snowmadic> it's pretty easy to know that.  does the last line in the window look like the one you typed the command into?
[09:17] <Snowmadic> ie: <username>@<machine name>$
[09:17] <gregory> o yes
[09:17] <Snowmadic> right.
[09:19] <Braxis> Fantastic
[09:19] <Braxis> The howto broke kubuntu
[09:19] <gregory> it says  0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[09:20] <Snowmadic> ...
[09:20] <gregory> and than the User name Machine name
[09:20] <Braxis> Good game.
[09:21] <Snowmadic> I'll brb.
[09:21] <gregory> ohhh!!! i need help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:@
[09:22] <TheGateKeeper> mag_: if you wanted to listen to mp3 you would need codecs, but to burn them, you just burn them as data files
[09:22] <jjmaestro> hola
[09:24] <TomTheBomb> i got a question about repositories
[09:24] <TomTheBomb> are there any mirrors for the standard repositories?
[09:24] <TomTheBomb> security is extremely slow
[09:25] <Braxis> Ok update....
[09:25] <TheGateKeeper> TomTheBomb: I think security is the one repo that doesn't have a mirror from what others have said
[09:25] <TomTheBomb> oh, really?
[09:25] <TomTheBomb> that kind of sucks >:(
[09:25] <Braxis> I reconfigured xserver and it went back to nv driver
[09:26] <Braxis> Once again got the graphical errors of doom
[09:26] <TomTheBomb> thats gotta be whyit's so slow too
[09:26] <TomTheBomb> lol
[09:26] <TomTheBomb> im  trying to download fglrx
[09:26] <TheGateKeeper> TomTheBomb: the others do, you just modify the country code us. -> ca. for example
[09:26] <TomTheBomb> ah, okay
[09:27] <TomTheBomb> thanks for the info
[09:27] <TheGateKeeper> TomTheBomb: yw :-)
[09:29] <TheGateKeeper> !nvidia > Braxis
[09:29] <Braxis> Dude.
[09:29] <Braxis> Don't even try
[09:29] <Braxis> I've been at this for a long time
[09:30] <Braxis> Snowmadic, c0rrupt, and I all have the same problems with it
[09:31] <Snowmadic> the slight difference being mine is a 5700, not a 7800, but the symptoms are the same.
[09:31] <wildbat> anyone knows about SKIM??~
[09:32] <Snowmadic> gregory: at any point did it ask you a yes/no question about installing extra packages?
[09:32] <hkallinikos> whats the difference of Konsole and xterm?
[09:32] <Snowmadic> hkallinikos: not a lot, really
[09:32] <hkallinikos> ok ;)
[09:32] <Snowmadic> konsole looks prettier? :P
[09:33] <gregory> no
[09:33] <Snowmadic> did it appear to download things like gaim-data and whatnot?
[09:33] <gregory> nno
[09:33] <Ash-Fox> What widget kit is openoffice written in anyway?
[09:34] <Snowmadic> then when you said "ok, it's done", it wasn't.
[09:34] <Snowmadic> what, exactly, did it say?
[09:34] <danish> how does this irc thing work
[09:34] <gregory> do you want me to try again?
[09:34] <Snowmadic> anything like "couldn't find package gaim" or whatnot?
[09:34] <hkallinikos> i had a problem with my Isa Proxy here,i finally decided to eclude this pc's ip from proxy so i can have straight access to internet,now i can do updates with apt-get,but i cant use wget,it goes through the proxy again,how this happens?
[09:34] <gregory> i dont no
[09:34] <gregory> il trya again
[09:34] <Snowmadic> no, I want you to tell me (if the window is still open) what it said last t.....
[09:34] <Snowmadic> ok, sure.
[09:34] <gregory> what do i type
[09:34] <Snowmadic> same as before.
[09:35] <Snowmadic> sudo apt-get install gaim
[09:35] <Braxis> LOL
[09:35] <Braxis> you're still at it?
[09:35] <Snowmadic> Braxis: were I paid by the hour, I could plan my retirement on this one ;)
[09:36] <Ash-Fox> danish, IRC works like this: http://www.apps.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1459.html http://www.apps.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2810.html http://www.apps.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2811.html http://www.apps.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2812.html http://www.apps.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2813.html
[09:36] <gregory> it said..
[09:36] <gregory> Building Dependency Tree... done
[09:36] <Braxis> Haahahaha
[09:36] <gregory> 2: coudlt find package gaim
[09:36] <gregory> e:**
[09:37] <Snowmadic> right.  so back when I asked if it worked, and it had clearly said it couldn't find it.  why did you say it was done and had installed?
[09:37] <gregory> it said that
[09:37] <Snowmadic> ...
[09:37] <gregory> but it didnt install
[09:38] <Snowmadic> if it said it couldn't find it.  IT CAN'T INSTALL WHAT IT CAN'T FIND!
[09:38] <Snowmadic> *cough* sorry 'bout that folks ;)
[09:38] <gregory> ok..
[09:38] <gregory> i dont get you
[09:38] <gregory> what do i do now..:(
[09:38] <TheGateKeeper> Snowmadic: :-)
[09:38] <Snowmadic> I realize this
[09:39] <Snowmadic> in lieu of attempting to explain how to fix your sources.list so you can install things that aren't in the usual package list.  I opt for sleep.
[09:39] <gregory> fuck you
[09:39] <Snowmadic> now there's gratitude for spending 45 min of my time trying to help.
[09:40] <|lostbyte|> gregory, ITs not nice to swear.
[09:40] <gregory> Then help me
[09:40] <Snowmadic> luckily I hadn't hit enter on the line that would have mentioned stopping in later today to see if you were around and still needed help.  won't bother doing that at this point.
[09:40] <|lostbyte|> gregory, your problem ?
[09:40] <gregory> ok
[09:40] <gregory> i want to download gaim
[09:40] <XVampireX> why
[09:40] <CVirus> gregory: you're insulting a volunteer ?
[09:40] <Snowmadic> gregory: I tried from prior to 1am here until almost 2am.  I got cursed on for my troubles.  you're on your own now, pal.
[09:40] <Ash-Fox> sudo apt-get install gaim
[09:40] <XVampireX> gregory: have you tried kopete?
[09:40] <Ash-Fox> that will download it and install it
[09:41] <gregory> i dont like kopete
[09:41] <XVampireX> Why?
[09:41] <|lostbyte|> gregory, what does sudo apt-get install gaim give you ?
[09:41] <Snowmadic> Ash-Fox: he has a source issue, apt can't find it.
[09:41] <TheGateKeeper> gregory: modify your sources.list file as per these instuctions then attempt to install gaim again: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories
[09:41] <gregory> i tryed that ask fox...it didnt work
[09:41] <Ash-Fox> Snowmadic, oh, yay :)
[09:41] <Ash-Fox> !easysource
[09:41] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:42] <Ash-Fox> gregory, tried that to generate your sources? (Try to keep away from the experimental stuff, because it's well.. experimental)
[09:42] <Snowmadic> gregory: for your future reference, cursing on people in a help channel doesn't often get you a quick answer.
[09:42] <|lostbyte|> gregory, whats the output to that command, pastebin it ?
[09:42] <gregory> i dont no
[09:42] <gregory> i just got kubuntu today!
[09:43] <wildbat> anyone knows about SKIM??~
[09:43] <Snowmadic> have a good one folks, I've gotta take off.
[09:43] <hkallinikos> gregory: have you uncomment the sources.list?
[09:43] <gregory> how do i do that
[09:43] <XVampireX> gregory: comments = #
[09:43] <XVampireX> But
[09:44] <Quuar> Im trying to install plugin so i can view windows media streams in firefox but I get this..
[09:44] <XVampireX> you have to remove # only where you see: # deb
[09:44] <Quuar> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[09:44] <Quuar>   totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin: Depends: totem-gstreamer (= 1.4.1-0ubuntu4) but 1.4.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[09:44] <XVampireX> or #deb I don't remember
[09:44] <hkallinikos> gregory: sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list      and there you find all the lines starting with deb and delete the # before the deb
[09:44] <gregory> complecated
[09:44] <XVampireX> gregory
[09:44] <Quuar> Can anyone help with that?
[09:44] <XVampireX> go to synaptic
[09:44] <XVampireX> errr
[09:44] <XVampireX> adept
[09:44] <gregory> weres that
[09:45] <XVampireX> and check it there
[09:45] <XVampireX> I don't know where it's in adept
[09:45] <XVampireX> someone should tell you
[09:45] <hkallinikos> gregory: type on Konsole sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:45] <XVampireX> Quaar: well, looks like you have outdated version of totem-gstreamer
[09:46] <Quuar> Im using online repositories???
[09:46] <XVampireX> Though it should resolve it
[09:46] <XVampireX> how are you installing the package?
[09:46] <Quuar> apt
[09:46] <Quuar> and synaptic
[09:46] <XVampireX> Ah
[09:46] <gregory> n than what hkallinikos
[09:46] <deb> Quuar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats . u will find all formats here :)
[09:46] <Quuar> tried both
[09:46] <TheGateKeeper> Quuar: you using the cli or adept or synaptic?
[09:46] <hkallinikos> you opened the file?
[09:46] <XVampireX> Ah, yeah
[09:47] <XVampireX> Haha
[09:47] <gregory> it came up with a list
[09:47] <hkallinikos> ok,find the lines that start with #deb
[09:47] <XVampireX> I forgot about that you need universe/multiverse I thought this package was in the free repositories
[09:47] <Quuar> Huh I used apt then i tried synaptic even know synaptic is just a front end
[09:47] <hkallinikos> then erase the #
[09:47] <Quuar> I have all the repositories
[09:47] <gregory> so erase all the #
[09:47] <Quuar> lol
[09:47] <hkallinikos> not all
[09:47] <hkallinikos> gregory
[09:47] <Quuar> there not commented out
[09:48] <hkallinikos> only the ones that continue with deb
[09:48] <gregory> just the ones that start with  #deb
[09:48] <gregory> okok
[09:48] <hkallinikos> save the file after that,and try again: sudo apt-get update
[09:48] <gregory> ok
[09:48] <TheGateKeeper> Quuar: true synaptic is just a fromt end but sometimes better at resolving dependencies, thing it uses a slight different database
[09:49] <hkallinikos> and after the update type :sudo apt-get gaim
[09:49] <c0rrupt`> yay
[09:49] <c0rrupt`> i think i finally got it to work
[09:49] <c0rrupt`> maybe ill write a tut now
[09:49] <c0rrupt`> lol
[09:49] <Quuar> anyways, I tried them both? So is there just an outdated package in the repository?
[09:49] <gregory> its conecting too  au.archive.ubuntu.com
[09:50] <gregory> on the konsole
[09:50] <Quuar> TheGateKeeper: ?
[09:50] <hkallinikos> is it installing gregory?
[09:50] <chris__> does anyone know dvd::rip or any other software similar to it?
[09:51] <gregory> wat do i write in it again?
[09:51] <Quuar> Nero?
[09:51] <hkallinikos> what was the last toy typed?
[09:51] <chris__> i'm having some trouble ripping a dvd due to, i believe, libdvdread
[09:51] <hkallinikos> *you
[09:51] <TheGateKeeper> Quuar: totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin is in universe but totem-gstreamer seems to be in the main repo so seems a bit strange
[09:51] <gregory> its connecting but it keep timing out
[09:51] <gregory> it says..
[09:52] <TheGateKeeper> Quuar: is totem-gstreamer installed?
[09:52] <Quuar> gregory http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Repositories
[09:52] <Quuar> TheGateKeeper: yes
[09:52] <gregory> [connecting to au.archive.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)] 
[09:52] <gregory> but it timed out and now is trying to connect again.
[09:52] <wildbat> anyone knows about SKIM?? please PM me
[09:53] <Quuar> 1.0.0.0 is not a valid IP
[09:53] <hkallinikos> gregory,did you erased the word deb too on the file?
[09:53] <gregory> ye
[09:53] <gregory> i think
[09:53] <Quuar> Just the comments
[09:53] <hkallinikos> no gregory,only the # i told you
[09:53] <TheGateKeeper> Quuar: what version?
[09:53] <Quuar> not the deb
[09:53] <gregory> i no
[09:53] <gregory> just the #
[09:53] <gregory> i did that
[09:54] <Quuar> you just said you erased the debs
[09:54] <hkallinikos> this # on file means to be commented,that it wont be read by any programm that uses it
[09:54] <gregory> ok
[09:54] <Quuar> TheGateKeeper: I dunno whatever version apt installed today
[09:54] <hkallinikos> did you closed the sources.list after saving it?
[09:55] <Quuar> TheGateKeeper: Setting up totem-gstreamer (1.4.3-0ubuntu1) ...
[09:55] <gregory> yes
[09:55] <TheGateKeeper> Quuar: synaptic should tell you
[09:55] <gregory> O
[09:55] <gregory> i closed it
[09:55] <Quuar> TheGateKeeper: Im not in Synaptic Im using a terminal
[09:55] <hkallinikos> ok
[09:55] <gregory> O!!
[09:55] <gregory> it conected
[09:55] <gregory> now what
[09:55] <hkallinikos> is it downloading?
[09:56] <gregory> ium
[09:56] <Quuar> gregory: if you just copy paste the whole file from the link I pasted and save then update it will work
[09:56] <gregory> no it isnt
[09:56] <hkallinikos> what messege you got?
[09:56] <foot> How do I check to see what kernal I am using?
[09:57] <Quuar> uname -a i believe
[09:57] <TheGateKeeper> Quuar: apt-cache search totem-gstreamer
[09:57] <Quuar> or uname -r
[09:57] <gregory> it just says mi user name n machine name
[09:57] <Quuar> ya uname -r
[09:57] <Quuar> foot:
[09:58] <foot> Quuar: yes?
[09:58] <foot> Quuar: thank you
[09:58] <Quuar> lol no prob
[09:58] <Quuar> TheGateKeeper: Doesnt say just totem-gstreamer - A simple media player for the Gnome desktop based on gstreamer
[09:58] <foot> Quuar: late but I feel like I am almost done
[09:59] <Quuar> I think this is just a repo problem
[09:59] <gregory> im screwed
[10:00] <Quuar> gregory: Just goto the link and copy past save and update, its real easy
[10:00] <Gregory> which link
[10:00] <hkallinikos> i have a question now
[10:00] <Quuar> gregory http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Repositories
[10:00] <Gregory> what do i do with it
[10:00] <Gregory> i copied it
[10:00] <Gregory> now what
[10:01] <Quuar> Read it it says exactlt how to do it step by step
[10:01] <Gregory> ok
[10:01] <Quuar> TheGateKeeper: ?
[10:01] <hkallinikos> Gregory: do : sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list annd replace all the file with the one on the site
[10:02] <Quuar> So looks like i am screwed on this one
[10:03] <Gregory> ok
[10:03] <Gregory> replace it with what?
[10:03] <hkallinikos> i installed kubuntu on my home with an xp partition and on the boot i get a table to choose either windows or any kernel version i have for kubuntu,here i got clean kubuntu installation and i dont get the table to choose which kernel i need,how do i make it appear?
[10:03] <TheGateKeeper> Quuar: apt-cache showpkg totem-gstreamer
[10:04] <Gregory> hkallinikos
[10:04] <Gregory> replace it with what
[10:04] <Quuar> The
[10:04] <Quuar> 1.4.3-0ubuntu1(/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages)(/var/lib/dpkg/status)
[10:04] <hkallinikos> Gregory: did you opened the file?
[10:04] <Quuar> 1.4.1-0ubuntu4(/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper_main_binary-i386_Packages)
[10:04] <Gregory> what file
[10:04] <Quuar> Gregory: It says step by step what to do on that page
[10:05] <Gregory> im on the page
[10:05] <hkallinikos> well do what the page says
[10:05] <Quuar> It has instructions
[10:05] <Gregory> for repositories
[10:05] <Quuar> TheGateKeeper: did ya see that?
[10:05] <TheGateKeeper> Quuar: yep
[10:05] <Quuar> The link puts him right on the repositories part
[10:06] <Gregory> do i read that
[10:06] <Quuar> Yes
[10:06] <hkallinikos> Gregory: do you have any general knowledge for computers?
[10:06] <office_> hello
[10:06] <office_> how to fix this
[10:06] <office_> files list file for package `libqt3-mt' contains empty filename
[10:07] <Gregory> yes
[10:07] <Gregory> i no everything about XP
[10:07] <Gregory> im running windows vista
[10:07] <Quuar> Really how do you edit registry values?
[10:07] <Gregory> on my desktop
[10:07] <TheGateKeeper> Quuar: from the 2 lines that you posted looks like you have 2 versions installed and the plugin is picking up the wrong one, unless I am mistaken
[10:08] <TheGateKeeper> Quuar: with regedit
[10:08] <Quuar> TheGateKeeper: I know that, I was seeing if he does
[10:08] <hkallinikos> ok,then i assume you can read some instructions and then do it
[10:08] <TheGateKeeper> Quuar: sorry :-)
[10:08] <TheGateKeeper> Quuar: I nackered that plan :-(
[10:09] <Quuar> lol
[10:09] <Quuar> So TheGateKeeper what should i do?
[10:10] <Quuar> TheGateKeeper: and synaptic only shows one version installed
[10:10] <TheGateKeeper> Quuar: the latter version?
[10:10] <hkallinikos> its my 3rd day on linux too,but the only way to learn things is to read the forums and the manuals
[10:11] <CVirus> the wiki is a good thing too
[10:11] <Quuar> 1.4.3
[10:11] <hkallinikos> true
[10:11] <Quuar> All i wanna do is watch some adult swim online guys!
[10:12] <Quuar> Maybe theres a different package i can use?
[10:13] <niels_> lo everybody, can somebody help me with my kubuntu?
[10:13] <TheGateKeeper> Quuar: not sure here, you could try uninstalling the gstreamer stuff, then pick the Firefox plugin ask it to install that, and hope that it picks up all the dependencies and install everything you want, or use the xine engine instead of the gstreamer one
[10:13] <Lynoure> niels_: Depends on your problem. Hard to guess before you tell about it.
[10:13] <Tallia1Kubuntu> halO? when i install a DOC package, how can i browse the documentation?
[10:14] <Tallia1Kubuntu> is there something like "man command" but in a "doc library" fashion?
[10:14] <foot> are synaptic and adept basicly the same?
[10:14] <niels_> lynoure, I installed kubuntu yesterday and when I restarted today there was a proble
[10:14] <niels_> problem*
[10:14] <Tallia1Kubuntu> foot: y
[10:15] <Lynoure> niels_: What kind of problem?
[10:15] <foot> Tallia1Kubuntu:  thx
[10:15] <niels_> I was able to choose 5kbuntu kernel, and the difference was 2with 26 and 2 wih 23 but don't ask me what preciously
[10:15] <TheGateKeeper> Quuar: I use the xine engine, totem-xine, and libxine-extracodecs
[10:15] <Tallia1Kubuntu> somebody can answer me? it's fairly easy!! :)
[10:15] <niels_> and when I picked out the 26's it blocked after it loaded everything(same screen appeared but didn't load anymore:s)
[10:16] <niels_> and when I choose that 23 it worked
[10:16] <hkallinikos> can someone help me with wget?
[10:16] <leveldoc> Tallia1Kubuntu: /usr/share/doc/[package name]  usually
[10:16] <Lynoure> niels_: Five seems like an odd number... one normal 23, one recovert boot 23, and same kind of pair with 26
[10:16] <leveldoc> but in case you can't find it:   sudo dpkg -L [package name]  will list the files for you
[10:16] <TheGateKeeper> foot: different gui front ends that essentially do the same job, I prefer synaptic
[10:16] <Quuar> TheGateKeeper: Im gunna see if EasyUbuntu will do it
[10:16] <Quuar> its so sweet
[10:16] <hkallinikos> thoguh i have opened my IP from the proxy to have straight internet access,and it works with apt-get and the adept front end,wget still says that i am blocked from the proxy
[10:16] <niels_> jes
[10:17] <niels_> and some memory checker 86+ or something like that
[10:17] <niels_> can you help me?
[10:17] <Lynoure> niels_: That's normal when you have installed an updated kernel, the normal boot with -26 is the one you want to use. And old kernel can be removed if the new one works fine
[10:17] <niels_> cos normally I boot that 26
[10:17] <foot> TheGateKeeper: ok, I do not have synaptic at the moment
[10:17] <niels_> but the new one doesn't work fine
[10:18] <TheGateKeeper> Quuar: good luck, hope it doesn't break your system :-)
[10:18] <Lynoure> niels_: normal 26 does not work for you? What about normal 23?
[10:18] <Quuar> TheGateKeeper: ahh why would it do that?
[10:18] <niels_> 23works fine
[10:18] <foot> TheGateKeeper: these seems to ba a problem as I am having trouble finding packages with adept. methinks I need to add a few repositories
[10:18] <Tallia1Kubuntu> leveldoc: and how to access it? with a simple browser?
[10:18] <Quuar> and its gunna install accelerated 3d drivers for my vid card
[10:18] <Lynoure> niels_: what happens with the newer one?
[10:18] <Tallia1Kubuntu> leveldoc: or is there a fast way to access it?
[10:19] <Hobbsee> !components
[10:19] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:19] <TheGateKeeper> Quuar: it's like automatrix, and that is know to break systems
[10:19] <niels_> first you have the normal screen loading *   ok...
[10:19] <MasterBrack> does anyone know how to configure dvd::rip?  for some reason i'm getting an error like 'libdvdread: device not found'
[10:19] <niels_> and then that same screen appears with on top kubuntu
[10:19] <niels_> and then that blue loader
[10:19] <niels_> but not text
[10:19] <niels_> and it just stays like that
[10:20] <TheGateKeeper> foot: you might find this usefull then: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories
[10:20] <niels_> but I t hinkt the problem is that I was updating yesterday and I rebooted before it wsa finished
[10:20] <niels_> how does that program call that updates?
[10:20] <Quuar> Thank god for cigarettes
[10:20] <foot> TheGateKeeper: thx, Iwas just starting to search
[10:21] <Quuar> TheGateKeeper: IT WORKED, it used a Kaffine Plugin too!
[10:22] <TheGateKeeper> foot: yw :-)
[10:22] <foot> TheGateKeeper: "yw" ??
[10:22] <TheGateKeeper> EasyUbuntu ?
[10:22] <Quuar> oh wait its just kinda sitting there saying Kaffine Starter Plugin...
[10:23] <TheGateKeeper> foot: short for you are welcome :-)
[10:23] <Quuar> TheGateKeeper: Ya Easyubuntu
[10:23] <Lynoure> niels_: you could try   sudo apt-get upgrade   to see if some packages (like kernel modules) get reinstalled.
[10:23] <foot> TheGateKeeper: AAhhhh
[10:24] <Quuar> That sucks it just sits there...
[10:24] <niels_> they don't become reinstalled
[10:24] <TheGateKeeper> Quuar: was going to suggest this first, but you got carried away :-) http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81311&highlight=HOWTO%3A+backup
[10:24] <niels_> but what's that program that updates?
[10:24] <MasterBrack> easyubuntu didn't work too well for me when i used it on KDE
[10:24] <niels_> is there a site with al those commands on?
[10:24] <Quuar> Im all happy, but it didnt really work the plugins broke
[10:25] <MasterBrack> the updater program you might be thinking of is adept
[10:25] <TheGateKeeper> Quuar: you sure your sources.list is all ok?
[10:25] <Lynoure> niels_: You mean what package should it upgrade... no idea without access to your computer. Probably restricted kernel modules, or something
[10:25] <Quuar> TheGateKeeper: ya... exact copy of one from starter guide
[10:26] <TheGateKeeper> Quuar: where?
[10:26] <Quuar> huh?
[10:26] <niels_> no but yesterday I opened a programm that started updating hundreds of things...
[10:26] <TheGateKeeper> Quuar: url?
[10:26] <niels_> and I suppose it wasn't finished
[10:26] <niels_> is there a way to check what that program was(command or something?)
[10:27] <Lynoure> niels_: That would be Adept
[10:27] <MasterBrack> if it wasnt finished it should come up again at reboot
[10:27] <Lynoure> niels: it's normal that it does a huge number of updates right after an install. Loads of things to fix.
[10:27] <TheGateKeeper> Quuar: you fire up synaptic when you are done and make sure no broken packages
[10:27] <Quuar> TheGateKeeper: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Repositories
[10:28] <TheGateKeeper> Quuar: plf repos are incorrect I have corrected here: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories
[10:28] <Quuar> TheGateKeeper: Just duplicate sources no broken packages
[10:29] <Quuar> TheGateKeeper: okay but that package didnt come from PLF?
[10:29] <TheGateKeeper> Quuar: no but I would expect synaptic to winge when you pressed reload
[10:30] <TheGateKeeper> Quuar: remove the duplicates
[10:30] <niels_> yes it is adept
[10:30] <niels_> ty
[10:31] <niels_> ty lynoure
[10:31] <Lynoure> niels_: :)
[10:31] <niels_> and another thing, where can I download codecs for my mp3's and video's and stuff?
[10:31] <Quuar> TheGateKeeper: okay all done now what?
[10:31] <_tsdgeos> !mp3
[10:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:31] <Glin|Jol> Winamp  5.24 Stopped
[10:32] <foot> TheGateKeeper: still no love
[10:32] <Lynoure> niels_: most people get them with tools called EasyUbuntu or Automatix, neither are official, but you can google to find them.
[10:32] <niels_> and can you donwload codecs with synaptic?
[10:32] <niels_> or adept,
[10:33] <Lynoure> niels_: I'm not sure. I cannot remember from where, al least. They are not in the official repositories
[10:33] <Ademan>  isnt there a directory within your user's home directory where you can put commands that only you can use? (like the user specific equivalent of /bin or /usr/bin) ?
[10:33] <Quuar> niels_: Theres instructions for Ubuntuguide on the starter guide
[10:34] <Quuar> I mean EasyUbuntu
[10:34] <MasterBrack> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[10:34] <MasterBrack> for the starter guide, niels
[10:34] <niels_> ty
[10:34] <c0rrupt`> o.0
[10:34] <c0rrupt`> Braxis,
[10:34] <Quuar> niels_: here this will get ya right to the part you need
[10:34] <Quuar> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_use_Easy_Ubuntu
[10:35] <Quuar> TheGateKeeper: Still with me bud?
[10:35] <TheGateKeeper> Quuar: yes and no :-) I got to run
[10:36] <TheGateKeeper> Quuar: Quuaryou have done sudo apt-get update or reload in synaptic?
[10:36] <Quuar> TheGateKeeper: yes
[10:37] <niels_> thx very much
[10:38] <niels_> how can I reinstall all updates?
[10:38] <foot> TheGateKeeper: before you go, know that that new list of repositories didnt have linux headers
[10:38] <TheGateKeeper> Quuar: totem-gstreamer stuff installed and the other plugin you mentioned not?
[10:39] <Quuar> TheGateKeeper: its tryin
[10:39] <TheGateKeeper> foot: that list of repos is the one I use
[10:39] <c0rrupt`> anyone know of any cool desktop system info toolbars
[10:39] <wildbat> anyone knows about SKIM?? please PM me
[10:40] <c0rrupt`> cpu usage/ram/temperatures
[10:40] <c0rrupt`> etc
[10:40] <foot> TheGateKeeper: ok, mabey it is adept
[10:40] <mqx> hi all
[10:40] <Quuar> TheGateKeeper: it worked but i guess its broken Totem could not play 'fd://0'.
[10:40] <TheGateKeeper> foot: originally came from here but I corrected the PLF repos
[10:41] <Quuar> TheGateKeeper: Only a subtitle stream was detected. Either you are loading a subtitle file or some other type of text file, or the media file was not recognized.
[10:41] <TheGateKeeper> Quuar: try the xine engine instead
[10:41] <foot> TheGateKeeper: corrected how?
[10:42] <TheGateKeeper> foot: look at the differences between the two entries on the two url's
[10:42] <Quuar> TheGateKeeper: gzine-plugin?
[10:43] <Quuar> or whatever
[10:43] <TheGateKeeper> Quuar: foot sorry folks, got to run
[10:43] <TheGateKeeper> Quuar: no xine-pugin
[10:43] <foot> TheGateKeeper: deb-src to deb?
[10:43] <foot> TheGateKeeper: gnight and thanks
[10:44] <TheGateKeeper> Quuar: xine-plugin ooops can't type
[10:45] <TheGateKeeper> Quuar: this might help: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Multimedia_Player_.28xine-ui.29
[10:45] <TheGateKeeper> Quuar: good luck :-)
[10:46] <CVirus> I apt-get install amarok-arts and still the arts engine doesnt appear in amaroK's menu .. what could  be wrong ?
[10:48] <bioticpro> I have a friend with an install of breezy that wants to upgrade to dapper, they are on dialup interent, how can I send them a cd with updates that they can use as a local repo?
[10:48] <Ash-Fox> just send them the dapper install cd
[10:49] <foot> repositories always have to end in universe, muliverse, or main. is that correct?
[10:49] <Ash-Fox> As for updates... You would need to mirror the entire mirror of updates
[10:49] <Ash-Fox> foot, no, that's just the name of the repositories
[10:50] <Ash-Fox> Well, options of those repositories, you can also have, non-free, free
[10:50] <hkallinikos> where is the configuration file for wget?
[10:51] <foot> Ash-Fox: alright, the gate keeper was helping me out on expanding my repositories and aparently there is a fix, but I dont see where the problem is. i am still new at this. can you help?
[10:51] <noiesmo> hkallinikos, /etc/wgetrc
[10:51] <Ash-Fox> !easysource
[10:51] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:52] <bioticpro> Ash-Fox: I don't want them to have to reinstall over breezy install, just update
[10:52] <Ash-Fox> And if you want to see what mine looks like: http://ash-fox.theden.ws/temp/sources.txt
[10:52] <Ash-Fox> bioticpro, yes, well they can just add the CD as a repository and udpate
[10:53] <bioticpro> Ash-Fox: is that a special version of the dapper cd?
[10:53] <Ash-Fox> bioticpro, no
[10:54] <deb> CVirus: did u install amarok-xine ?
[10:54] <hkallinikos> Ash-Fox: can i download the DVD of kubuntu and then add it to the repositories?
[10:54] <CVirus> deb: yes
[10:54] <Ash-Fox> hkallinikos, yes.
[10:56] <foot> ubutu: ok so now I have the list in kate. do I rename it before saving or save as is?
[10:57] <deb> CVirus: do u have any section called [xine-engine]  in amarokrc ?
[10:57] <CVirus> deb: yes I do
[10:58] <deb> CVirus: back up the amarokrc file first and then remove it .
[10:59] <deb> CVirus: then under [Playback]  section add the line Sound System=xine-engine
[10:59] <deb> CVirus: then restart amarok . It should take up xine now .
[11:00] <mmotiwala> guys - i am running amd-64 - any idea how i can get GCC for kubuntu 64?
[11:00] <CVirus> amarokrc ?
[11:00] <CVirus> oops
[11:00] <CVirus> let me check
[11:00] <CVirus> i though u meant in my amarok menu
[11:01] <deb> CVirus: amarokrc .. located ~/.kde/share/config/amarokrc
[11:01] <CVirus> Sound System=xine-engine
[11:02] <mmotiwala> guys?
[11:02] <CVirus> deb: I need arts ..  installed amarok-arts and it doesnt show up in the "configure amarok" menu
[11:05] <deb> CVirus: sorry, missed some part of the communication. U need to add arts-engine
[11:06] <deb> CVirus: the restart amarok .
[11:07] <Ademan>  isnt there a directory within your user's home directory where you can put commands that only you can use? (like the user specific equivalent of /bin or /usr/bin) ?
[11:10] <tk> you can set your login script to append to the path var a path in yuor home dir....
[11:10] <nkuttler> why on earth do i get a ping: unknown host google.com if dig can lookup the url?
[11:12] <foot> help please. I have updated/add to my repositories trying to find 'linux headers' thrice now and no love for me.
[11:13] <noiesmo> foot try kernel-headers
[11:13] <tk> foot: wouldnt those still bein your backup copy of the sources list?
[11:14] <foot> kernel headers brought up alot. and no linux headers with any of the recomended, at least here, repositories. tnx noiesmo
[11:15] <bioticpro> In konq file browsing, is there a way to fix the problem of when you click on a file for download and it asks to saveas or open, to actually have it save the file as the same name, mine always renames it download.php or something else, have to manually select
[11:15] <mmotiwala> can anyone help me out with Kubuntu-amd64?
[11:15] <foot> and they are already installed. I love waisting 2 hours. but I am learning ;|
[11:25] <satempler> yes the security.ubuntu.com is fast once again
[11:25] <satempler> WHOO HOO!!
[11:30] <foot> in konsole, as root, how do I run konqueror?
[11:31] <eeos> foot: konqueror
[11:32] <eeos> foot: or sudo konqueror from a normal terminal
[11:32] <foot> ahh heck, I spelled it wrong...twice.must be late at night
[11:32] <eeos> foot: "sudo konqueror"
[11:32] <foot> eeos:  thx
[11:33] <noiesmo> not sudo use kdesu sudo can cause problems when using gui
[11:33] <foot> goodnight all
[11:33] <ironfroggy> any ideas why flash movies only show the first frame and never do anything?/
[11:33] <eeos> foot: you are wellcome
[11:34] <ironfroggy> but not all of them i guess.. youtube movies play, for example. but stuff on the ATOS blog doesnt.
[11:35] <eeos> I need to install alsa last version on 606 for amd 64
[11:43] <l1nux> hello
[11:44] <eeos> I need to install alsa last version on 606 for amd 64. can anyone give me some help?
[11:44] <l1nux> why (kubuntu)kopete not connect googletalk ?
[11:44] <l1nux> i have qca-tls installed, but not work
[11:46] <intelikey> why will dos box not run for root ?
[11:46] <intelikey> i get this error   but it doesn't make any sense.
[11:46] <intelikey> Exit to error: Can't init SDL No available video device
[11:48] <JohnFlux> hey all
[11:48] <JohnFlux> I don't seem to have the repository for lots of gnome packages - like gnucash, bonobo  etc
[11:49] <JohnFlux> what could I be missing?
[11:49] <intelikey> !info gnucash
[11:49] <ubotu> gnucash: A personal finance tracking program. In repository universe, is extra. Version 1.8.12-6ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1288 kB, installed size 3912 kB
[11:49] <intelikey> universe ^
[11:50] <JohnFlux> deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe
[11:50] <JohnFlux> I have that
[11:50] <JohnFlux> that should be enough?
[11:51] <Jucato> JohnFlux: yeah. but did you click on Fetch Updates (sudo apt-get update) after you added/enabled it?
[11:51] <JohnFlux> yeah
[11:51] <JohnFlux> i'll remove the gb.   just incase my local mirror hasn't got all the packages or something
[11:51] <JohnFlux> ah that did it
[11:51] <Jucato> JohJsadff
[11:51] <JohnFlux> maybe they only mirror some of the stuff :/
[11:51] <Jucato> Try using uk. instead
[11:52] <JohnFlux> ah no need - i'm getting 130kb/sec  :0
[11:52] <intelikey> i get this error   but it doesn't make any sense.   "Exit to error: Can't init SDL No available video device "     trying to run dosbox  as root      thoughts ?
[11:52] <Jucato> ok :-D
[11:53] <JohnFlux> intelikey: is it trying to use X?
[11:53] <lters> Jucato: any tips on suspend to ram with kpowersave and powersaved...
[11:53] <intelikey> JohnFlux that's from within X yes
[11:53] <Jucato> Lt-Elmo: sorry.. I don't use those... :-(
[11:54] <Jucato> oops.. wrong person...
[11:54] <intelikey> works fine for user  but i get that error for root
[11:54] <JohnFlux> intelikey: that's because of X security
[11:54] <Jucato> lters: sorry I don't use suspend to RAM...
[11:54] <intelikey> what X security ?
[11:55] <Jucato> hmm...
[11:55] <intelikey> JohnFlux splain
[11:55] <JohnFlux> intelikey: as the normal user, run:   xhost +        then as root, do:  xport DISPLAY=:0.0
[11:55] <JohnFlux> intelikey: as the normal user, run:   xhost +        then as root, do: export DISPLAY=:0.0
[11:55] <JohnFlux> it's not very secure to do that, but it will at least let you test
[11:56] <JohnFlux> after the export..   command, then run the program
[11:56] <intelikey> JohnFlux i'm not sure you know this   i was starting X as root    are you saying that i still need to do that ?
[11:56] <intelikey> i'll try it.
[11:59] <JohnFlux> intelikey: oh
[11:59] <JohnFlux> intelikey: you are running X as root?  hmm should be okay then
[11:59] <intelikey> hmm interesting.     you were right though it did work.
[11:59] <intelikey> beets me.
[12:02] <intelikey> hmmm that didn't fix my problem tho.    it did let me run dosbox as root but even doing so didn't let me write to z:
[12:05] <intelikey> ls
[12:08] <eeos> I need to install alsa last version on 606 for amd 64. can anyone give me some help?
[12:09] <intelikey> eeos having to compile ?
[12:11] <eeos> intelikey: yes, tried to install alsa-kernel from cvs, but the cvs is not reachable
[12:11] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hola? i am a beginner C++ developer under linux.. i just installed the libstdc++6 docs, what do you use to browse them?
[12:11] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i have seen that for example with man vector, his documentation appears.. however i dunno which other classes (like vector) are in there
[12:12] <eeos> intelikey: so I have to compile but would like to avoid compiling the kerne
[12:12] <intelikey> Tallia1Kubuntu /usr/share/dosc    <<< konguror browse there.
[12:14] <intelikey> eeos i've never built only modules  and that against a diferent kernel    it can probably be done.    but i would just build the kernel.   so i wont be of much help to you there.
[12:14] <eeos> intelikey: how do you rebuild the kernel on dapper? I have only found instructions on edgy
[12:15] <eeos> intelikey: if someone can help me though, I prepare a page for the wiki
[12:16] <Gregory> Help Needed
[12:16] <intelikey> apt-get install linux-source && dpkg -L linux-source        unpack it   do a make xconfig    and build it.    or a make menuconfig  even.
[12:16] <Gregory> help needed
[12:16] <Gregory> how do i download things?
[12:16] <intelikey> in the webbrowser
[12:17] <Gregory> when i try to download it downloads and i open the folder and it screws up
[12:17] <intelikey> or  wget http://url.blah
[12:17] <Gregory> i cant find an instal icon
[12:17] <eeos> intelikey: wait, I will try to find the packages.
[12:17] <intelikey> install icon ?     what's that?
[12:18] <intelikey> Gregory what you trying to install ?
[12:18] <Gregory> like, when i download a file online
[12:18] <Gregory> it goes to my desktop
[12:18] <Gregory> and i dont no how to install it
[12:18] <intelikey> what kind of file ?
[12:18] <Jucato> Gregory: what are you trying to install?
[12:18] <Gregory> Gaim..
[12:18] <Gregory> like msn messenger
[12:18] <Jucato> Gregory: GAIM is in our repositories
[12:19] <Jucato> you don't need to download it from the webpage
[12:19] <Gregory> whats that..
[12:19] <Gregory> im only new..i got this today
[12:19] <intelikey> Gregory delete the file you downloaded.    open adept and select gaim and install it.
[12:19] <Gregory> adept?
[12:19] <Gregory> weres that
[12:19] <intelikey> menu
[12:19] <Jucato> Gregory: or better yet, Kopete is like GAIM. It's already installed
[12:19] <satempler> intelikey: why not kopete
[12:20] <intelikey> use what you like
[12:20] <satempler> the new kopete has web cam support
[12:20] <satempler> and it in the K-menu Internet
[12:20] <Jucato> and it know shows to whom you are stealthed...
[12:20] <Gregory> yeh buts its weird
[12:20] <intelikey> satempler he didn't ask about kopete    he asked about gaim
[12:20] <satempler> all new things are weird
[12:20] <farous> stgraber: does it have webcam with msn? and does it have voice now or not ?
[12:20] <satempler> oh
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[12:21] <farous> i hate it when i am asleep i ment satempler
[12:21] <Gregory> but, how do i download things
[12:21] <Jucato> !install
[12:21] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[12:21] <satempler> farous with both yahoo and msn
[12:21] <Jucato> hmm.... not good enough...
[12:22] <intelikey> Gregory you obviously downloaded something already.    so i still don't think you are asking the right question/s
[12:22] <farous> satempler: sounds tempting will give it a try. Does it suppoer voice chat too
[12:22] <satempler> don't know
[12:22] <farous> will check it out thanx satempler
[12:22] <satempler> it's supposed to support google's gtalk voice function
[12:22] <eeos> intelikey: I cannot fine the linux-source with the level of bug fixing I have installed.
[12:23] <Gregory> when i download the program how do i install it
[12:23] <Jucato> Gregory: we install things a little differently in Linux. I'll try to walk you through it a bit
[12:23] <Gregory> thanks;)
[12:23] <satempler> farous: wait a min and I will help you check
[12:23] <eeos> intelikey: I am on 2.6.15-26
[12:23] <Jucato> Gregory: first open Adept, it's in K Menu > System
[12:23] <eeos> intelikey: and the only source I can find is 2.6.15
[12:23] <farous> :)
[12:23] <satempler> farous:  I just updated so I need to see to
[12:23] <satempler> brb
[12:23] <Gregory> ye
[12:23] <farous> tyt
[12:23] <intelikey> Gregory there are over 18000 packages  already ready to install via the package manager     learn to use it first  then if you want something that the repositories don't have   we'll gladly help you install it.
[12:24] <intelikey> eeos yeah 2.6.15
[12:24] <Jucato> Gregory: type in GAIM in the search box to lok for GAIM
[12:25] <eeos> inelikey: how do I get from 2.6.15 to 2.6.15-26 in the source? The source does not appear to be there.
[12:25] <Gregory> then what
[12:25] <Jucato> do you see gaim in the list?
[12:25] <Gregory> were should it come up?
[12:25] <intelikey> eeos you don't .   2.6.15 is the source   the subversion is 26-blah
[12:26] <Jucato> Gregory: in the list at the middle of the window
[12:26] <eeos> intelikey: that is the 2.6.15 - 26! why is not written in the anme as in the kenel binaries package?
[12:26] <eeos> intelikey: is in the additional details
[12:27] <intelikey> eeos type this       apt-cache show linux-source
[12:28] <intelikey> eeos   apt-cache search/show     is you' friend
[12:28] <eeos> intelikey: 2.6.15.22 in the apt-cache show
[12:29] <Jucato> I have a GUI alternative to apt-cache search/show, just in case you're interested. It's a Kubuntu/KDE only thing
[12:29] <intelikey> so do like i said the first time     sudo apt-get install linux source
[12:29] <intelikey> so do like i said the first time     sudo apt-get install linux-=source
[12:29] <intelikey> so do like i said the first time     sudo apt-get install linux-source
[12:29] <eeos> intelikey: yes I am doing it!
[12:29] <intelikey> i'm sleepy
[12:29] <Jucato>  @_@
[12:30] <eeos> Jucato: what is the kde only apt-cache show tool?
[12:30] <eeos> intelikey: it is taking time.
[12:30] <intelikey> adept
[12:30] <Jucato> type "apt:/" in Konqueror
[12:30] <eeos> intelikey: yes I am using adept, but how do you check apt-cache with adept?
[12:30] <Jucato> intelikey: nah, apt:/ is quicker, if you're just doing a quick check
[12:31] <intelikey> adept/synaptic/aptitude  all also search and show details.
[12:31] <eeos> konqueror never stops surprising me!
[12:31] <intelikey> eeos :)
[12:31] <intelikey> konq is kewl
[12:32] <Jucato> eheh! unfortunately, it's a Kubuntu only thing AFAIK :-D
[12:32] <intelikey> konq is k'ing at its best.
[12:32] <eeos> by the way, whilst I am donwloading the kernel source
[12:32] <eeos> do you know of a ftp client which suports symlinks?
[12:32] <Jucato> eeos: doesn't Konqueror do that too?
[12:33] <satempler> farous: ok rebooted now i can help with the web cam / kopete thingy
[12:33] <intelikey> symlinks..... hmmmm i think ncftp does  but don't sew me if i'm wrong
[12:33] <farous> satempler: cool
[12:34] <farous> satempler: so does kopete have a voice support
[12:34] <intelikey> and yeah konq should
[12:34] <lters> Jucato: what source could I add to my debian box to get the acroread etc...?
[12:34] <farous> you can just open it and check
[12:34] <satempler> well
[12:34] <gregory> help please
[12:34] <Jucato> lters: Debian? I'm not familiar with Debian repositories
[12:34] <intelikey> what did you do now gregory ?
[12:34] <eeos> Jucato: konqueror sees symlinks, but does not copy them through
[12:35] <eeos> konqueror sees symlinks, but does not copy them through
[12:35] <gregory> im in Adept Manager
[12:35] <Jucato> eeos: symlinks are a Linux only thing I think
[12:35] <gregory> and i typed in Gaim
[12:35] <eeos> how do you configure the ftp kioslave in konqueror
[12:35] <Jucato> Gregory: then?
[12:35] <eeos> jucto: both client and server are linux
[12:35] <gregory> n nothing came up
[12:35] <gregory> do i press enter?
[12:36] <intelikey> farous want to walk gregory through enabling the repos in adept    i'll pick up the peaces if  snit goes to ned.
[12:36] <satempler> farous: no it doesn't
[12:36] <Jucato> Gregory:  no need to press enter. But I guess your repositories are not yet enabled
[12:36] <eeos> Jucato: both client and server are linux
[12:36] <gregory> how do i do that
[12:36] <farous> intelikey: ok a min helping a guy on ubuntu channel now
[12:36] <Jucato> Gregory: click on Adept menu (first to the left) and then Manage Repositories
[12:36] <Jucato> eeos: err... now I don't know... :-(
[12:36] <farous> satempler: thanx for the help. guess will wait till they support it :)
[12:36] <gregory> then
[12:37] <eeos> thanks the same
[12:37] <satempler> gregory: then right click on the repos
[12:37] <satempler> the ones grayed out
[12:37] <satempler> chose enabled
[12:37] <Jucato> look for a line that has "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted" and right-click and choose Enable
[12:37] <gregory> then
[12:37] <gregory> enable?
[12:37] <satempler> to add mutliverse
[12:37] <satempler> yes
[12:37] <satempler> gregory: yes
[12:38] <Jucato> eeos: I have a suggestion: make the symlinks within the ftp. don't copy the symlink. Symlinks, AFAIK, aren't relative.
[12:38] <gregory> is that all?
[12:38] <Jucato> Gregory: yes, enable. then click on Apply at the bottom
[12:38] <satempler> gregory: to add multiverse select the one that has just universe click on the very end and you should be able to edit that line
[12:38] <eeos> eeos. can you make the symlinks using ftp?
[12:38] <Jucato> satempler: he wants to install GAIM.
[12:38] <farous> ok back
[12:38] <farous> ah satempler is taking care of gregory cool
[12:39] <satempler> Jucato: but it's good to have him put it there
[12:39] <Jucato> Gregory: then click on Fetch Updates near the top
[12:39] <intelikey> farous looks like satempler and Jucato handeling it   sorry for the interruption.
[12:39] <eeos> jucato. sorry, I am hungry. :-) an you make the symlinks using ftp?
[12:39] <satempler> Jucato: for flash
[12:39] <Jucato> eeos: I'm not really sure, though :-D
[12:39] <farous> intelikey: no problem my friend
[12:39] <farous> :)
[12:39] <intelikey> :)
[12:39] <Jucato> satempler: oh ok. :D
[12:39] <satempler> gregory: then hit apply
[12:39] <gregory> wait
[12:39] <gregory> im lost
[12:39] <satempler> then hit fetch updates
[12:39] <gregory> i did the enable thing
[12:39] <satempler> ok
[12:40] <gregory> i right clicked on the grays n enabled
[12:40] <gregory> now..
[12:40] <satempler> ok only the ones with web addresses in them right
[12:40] <gregory> what do you mean
[12:40] <gregory> so the ones that arent grey
[12:40] <satempler> well there are a bunch of comments
[12:41] <satempler> don't want to enable them
[12:41] <gregory> were
[12:41] <satempler> oh ok
[12:41] <gregory> theres ones with Web Adresses in them
[12:42] <satempler> gregory: ok now add multiverse to the end of the one that has universe 3rd set down
[12:42] <gregory> none have 3rd universe
[12:42] <deb> how to get smb:// protocol work in konqueror ?
[12:42] <satempler> gregory: click on it then click on it again
[12:42] <gregory> i only see universe
[12:43] <deb> I am getting this error when I try to use it The process for the smb:// protocol died unexpectedly.
[12:43] <gregory> some already have multiverse in them
[12:43] <satempler> no not 3rd universe the third set of repo lines
[12:43] <Jucato> Gregory: the line with "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe"
[12:44] <satempler> ya
[12:44] <gregory> o ye
[12:44] <gregory> i see them
[12:44] <Jucato> where "xx" stands for your local/countr server (us, uk/gb, etc)
[12:44] <gregory> ok
[12:44] <niels_> lo everybody
[12:44] <satempler> gregory: click on it onece then onece more and you will be able to edit it
[12:44] <Jucato> click on the word "universe"
[12:44] <gregory> ok
[12:44] <gregory> yeh
[12:44] <satempler> ya
[12:45] <Jucato> then follow satempler
[12:45] <Jucato> :D
[12:45] <gregory> so i clicked on it
[12:45] <gregory> n now what do i write in it
[12:45] <satempler> ya multiverse
[12:45] <Jucato> to make it "universe multiverse"
[12:45] <gregory> at the end of universe or the start of universe
[12:45] <satempler> yes
[12:45] <gregory> ok
[12:45] <Jucato> satempler is sooo helpful :D
[12:46] <gregory> then apply?
[12:46] <Jucato> yep
[12:46] <satempler> gregory: then hit apply button at the bottom, then fetch updates icon at the top
[12:46] <gregory> ok
[12:46] <gregory> then do i just wait?
[12:46] <satempler> yep
[12:46] <gregory> it says
[12:47] <gregory> down the bottom
[12:47] <Jucato> satempler: I really think that the Reset, Apply, Close buttons should be at the top... it's quite tedious clicking on Apply (bottom) then Fetch Updates (top)...
[12:47] <eeos> intelikey: finally finished downloading the kernel source
[12:47] <gregory> Wait For Headers (0%)
[12:47] <intelikey> Jucato yeah i'd rather just dcc'm a working copy and say stick that in your /etc/apt   or make yours look like it....   hehhe
[12:47] <evi1> how do i share a printer on my linux computer with a windows computer
[12:47] <satempler> Jucato: i like enableing repos in Ubuntu to tell you the truth
[12:47] <Jucato> intelikey: hehehe! true. it's much easier for us. but probably scary for them
[12:47] <gregory> its still at 0%...
[12:48] <gregory> have you heard the new Linspire Linux
[12:48] <satempler> Jucato: adept isn't really adept at package management
[12:48] <gregory> its really cool
[12:48] <Jucato> satempler: ehehe! Adept is adept at being a PITA...
[12:48] <eeos> intelikey: now, what should I do?
[12:48] <Jucato> :p
[12:48] <Jucato> Gregory: For more information, after you installed GAIM, I suggest reading these (very light) reading materials (take note of the sections specifically for Kubuntu): https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware, https://help.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/extra-repositories.html
[12:48] <gregory> satempler: how long does it take..
[12:49] <satempler> gregory: on broadband not long
[12:49] <gregory> im usuing adsl
[12:49] <intelikey> eeos  dpkg -L linux-source*    note where it put the package and unpack and build it.
[12:49] <satempler> gregory: on dial up few more seconds
[12:49] <gregory> its still at 0% though..
[12:49] <satempler> gregory: should be ok then
[12:49] <niels_> can someone help me about intalling synaptic
[12:49] <satempler> dang
[12:49] <Jucato> Gregory: are you using http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com???
[12:49] <satempler> niels_: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[12:49] <gregory> it says.. Waiting for headers (0%)
[12:50] <satempler> ok for witch one security.ubunu.com
[12:50] <satempler> security.ubuntu.com that is
[12:50] <eeos> intelikey: it says - > Package `linux-source*' is not installed.
[12:50] <eeos> intelikey:?????????????
[12:50] <gregory> were would it say that?
[12:50] <niels_> i did satempler
[12:50] <intelikey> eeos well drop the asterisk
[12:50] <niels_> and then this appears:
[12:50] <niels_> Pakketlijsten worden ingelezen... Klaar
[12:50] <niels_> Boom van vereisten wordt opgebouwd... Klaar
[12:50] <niels_> Pakket synaptic is niet beschikbaar, hoewel er naar verwezen wordt door
[12:50] <niels_> een ander pakket. Mogelijk betekent dit dat het pakket ontbreekt,
[12:50] <niels_> verouderd is, of enkel beschikbaar is van een andere bron
[12:50] <niels_> E: Pakket synaptic heeft geen installeerbare kandidaat
[12:50] <niels_> do you understand a lil bit of dutch?
[12:51] <Jucato> niels_: use pastebin if you're going to post something that long
[12:51] <Jucato> !pastebin
[12:51] <farous> !pastebin > niels
[12:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:51] <eeos> intelikey: ah! the L should be lower case
[12:51] <intelikey> i think it's /usr/src eeos
[12:51] <satempler> niels_: don't read duch and pastein
[12:51] <niels_> what's pastebin?
[12:51] <gregory> Satempler: it is still at 0%
[12:51] <intelikey> eeos no
[12:51] <intelikey> the l should be L  for listing the files in a package.
[12:51] <niels_> eum it says that pakket synaptic ist available,...
[12:52] <satempler> gregory: ok on the other side where it says 0% on the right should give the address from witch it is having problems
[12:52] <niels_> E: package synaptic hasn't got an installabale candidate
[12:52] <niels_> or something lik ethat in english I suppose
[12:52] <gregory> nope
[12:52] <Jucato> Gregory: are you using http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com??? (gb??)
[12:52] <satempler> gregory: ok
[12:52] <gregory> o its done..
[12:52] <Jucato>  @_@
[12:52] <Ace> Hi all
[12:52] <evi1> whats the best media player to use with kubuntu
[12:53] <satempler> gregory: close adept and open a terminal
[12:53] <eeos> intelikey. you are right. anyway, the package is in /usr/src/
[12:53] <gregory> ok
[12:53] <gregory> Konsole?
[12:53] <eeos> intelikey: should I unpack it? where do I find teh configuration file i have now
[12:53] <satempler> type in sudo apt-get update
[12:53] <Ace> How do i get cfdisk to print out information on the hard disks, i need to see which ones have been detected
[12:53] <eeos> intelikey:?
[12:53] <satempler> gregory: yes
[12:54] <satempler> gregory: then type in sudo apt-get update
[12:54] <hkallinikos> intelikey: i finally got out of the proxy,know how?i opened my ip from the proxy :P
[12:54] <satempler> gregory: then hit enter
[12:54] <hkallinikos> so no proxy now
[12:54] <gregory> its connecting to an URL
[12:54] <gregory> au.archive.ubuntu.com
[12:55] <satempler> should just wiz right through them all
[12:55] <Jucato> !pastebin > Jucato
[12:56] <gregory> it says.   0% [connecting to au.archive.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)] 
[12:56] <eeos> intelikey: I have unpacked it
[12:57] <satempler> ok
[12:57] <satempler> do Ctrl+c
[12:57] <gregory> than what
[12:58] <satempler> it retuned you to a prompt
[12:58] <gregory> yes
[12:58] <satempler> gregory: ok then sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:59] <gregory> than what
[12:59] <gregory> it came up with all this stuff
[01:00] <gregory> than what satempler?!?!?
[01:00] <satempler> gregory: ok now change all the au.archive to ca
[01:00] <gregory> so the au bit to ca?
[01:01] <satempler> gregory: trying a diffrent mirror so change from au.archive to ca.archive
[01:01] <satempler> yes
[01:01] <gregory> ok
[01:01] <hacka> i kno more about computas than u all im da best hacker eva
[01:01] <satempler> gregory: then ctrl+o
[01:01] <satempler> gregory: then ctrl+x
[01:01] <satempler> gregory: then sudo apt-get update
[01:02] <satempler> if that don't work change ca to us
[01:03] <gregory> ctrl o or ctrl x?
[01:03] <satempler> first ctrl+o
[01:03] <satempler> then ctrl+x
[01:03] <farous> !info netselect-apt
[01:03] <ubotu> netselect-apt: Choose the fastest Debian mirror with netselect. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.3.ds1-5 (dapper), package size 7 kB, installed size 60 kB
[01:03] <Jucato> aaah teaching him the joys of nano, aren't you satempler? :-D
[01:03] <satempler> gregory: ctrl-o will save it ctrl+x will exit
[01:04] <gregory> um..
[01:04] <farous> satempler: would try that then the manual way. will only add main though
[01:04] <satempler> Jucato: i find that the command apt-get is easyer than adept
[01:04] <gregory> u no i did all this in the konsole..
[01:04] <Jucato> satempler: ehehe! :-D
[01:04] <gregory> it didnt go in the document thing
[01:05] <gregory> i changed it all in the konsole
[01:05] <satempler> gregory: oh
[01:05] <satempler> gregory: thats fine
[01:05] <mauri> hi, i was wondering how can i make execute a command during every system start up
[01:06] <satempler> but the commands i gave you work that what that ^O meens
[01:06] <satempler> at the bottom
[01:06] <gregory> so now what satempler
[01:06] <satempler> so every ^ is a ctrl key in combo with the corisponding letter
[01:06] <satempler> gregory: so now sudo apt-get update again
[01:07] <gregory> ok
[01:07] <gregory> but i cant time
[01:07] <gregory> type*
[01:07] <gregory> what that button so i can type in it
[01:07] <satempler> did you do ctrl + o
[01:07] <gregory> i told u
[01:07] <satempler> click on the konsole window
[01:07] <gregory> it didnt come up in a document thingy
[01:07] <gregory> yeh
[01:08] <satempler> it's not a gui is't a console program nano
[01:08] <gregory> ?
[01:08] <gregory> all that information were i changed it to ca
[01:09] <gregory> was in the konsole
[01:09] <gregory> it all apeared in the konsole windows
[01:09] <satempler> when you do sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list there should be part of the windows with [Read XX lines] 
[01:09] <satempler> ya
[01:09] <satempler> i know
[01:09] <mauri> somebody knows how to auto startup conky? : |
[01:09] <gregory> what that button that i press in konsole so i can type..
[01:09] <satempler> gregory: we are using a consle editor
[01:09] <gregory> ctrl -
[01:09] <satempler> gregory: o
[01:10] <gregory> ok
[01:10] <satempler> then ctrl + x
[01:10] <satempler> gregory:  then ctrl + x
[01:10] <gregory> no!!!!!!!!!!
[01:10] <gregory> im in konsole NOW
[01:10] <gregory> whats the button
[01:10] <gregory> so i can type
[01:10] <satempler> oh ok
[01:10] <satempler> just click in the window
[01:11] <satempler> the cursor should turn from black with a white line around it to solid white
[01:11] <gregory> now what do i type in?
[01:11] <satempler> sudo apt-get update
[01:11] <farous> satempler: perhaps he will be more comfortable with kate. take it one step at a time :)
[01:12] <mauri> kate
[01:12] <mauri> nano
[01:12] <satempler> farous: need to start some where
[01:12] <mauri> and VIM
[01:12] <satempler> farous: at least it wasn't vi
[01:12] <Jucato> satempler: yes, but not all at the same time :-D
[01:12] <satempler> farous: which i don't know
[01:12] <farous> haha :)
[01:13] <Jucato> satempler: remember... new user... information overload :-D and all this because he just wants to install GAIM ehehe
[01:13] <mauri> :O
[01:13] <farous> satempler: always take people from what they are familiar with one step at a time. make life easier :)
[01:13] <satempler> Jucato: why gaim and not kopte
[01:13] <Jucato> satempler: ask him, not me
[01:13] <satempler> right I know
[01:13] <satempler> ok
[01:13] <mauri> perhaps he could use adept..
[01:13] <satempler> gregory: why not kopete
[01:13] <gregory> sumone sujested Gaim
[01:14] <Jucato> I was suggesting Kopete. intelikey said give the person what he wants. he wants GAIM, so there I was...
[01:14] <satempler> mauri: adept wouldn't update and wouldn't show him what was being updated
[01:14] <gregory> well, i want to know how to download things in the future
[01:14] <mauri> satempler: oh right, sorry
[01:14] <satempler> ok well this is the way
[01:14] <Jucato> satempler: could it be more than just a repository thing? proxies? DNS? etc?
[01:14] <gregory> so say..i want to download limewire
[01:14] <gregory> how do i do it...??
[01:15] <satempler> gregory: umm not in the repos
[01:15] <farous> gregory: you are chatting from the box that have kubuntu right. So just to make sure you do not have network probs on that box
[01:15] <satempler> gregory: i would try amule
[01:16] <gregory> so how do i download that?
[01:16] <Jucato> good luck guys! gtg
[01:16] <farous> gregory: for limewire you just download, extract and use
[01:16] <satempler> sudo apt-get install amule
[01:16] <satempler> gregory: but you need to update the repos first
[01:17] <satempler> gregory: do that by typing in sudo apt-get update
[01:17] <gregory> o
[01:17] <gregory> ok
[01:17] <satempler> that tells apt-get what is there
[01:17] <gregory> its connecting
[01:17] <gregory> au.archive.ubuntu.com
[01:17] <gregory> its connecting to that
[01:18] <mauri> right
[01:18] <satempler> gregory: its it reciving the package headers
[01:18] <satempler> or is it stalling out
[01:18] <gregory> were can i see that
[01:18] <satempler> well if it hasn't come back to the prompt yet then it isn't working to well
[01:19] <satempler> should be where your cursor is
[01:19] <gregory> yeh cause it stil trying to connect
[01:19] <gregory> were my cursor is?
[01:19] <mauri> mmm
[01:19] <gregory> my cursor is every were lol
[01:19] <gregory> where ever i move it
[01:20] <satempler> gregory: the lol the rectangle thingy in the terminal
[01:20] <hkallinikos> and i thought this happened only to windows :P
[01:20] <gregory> the typing thing?
[01:20] <satempler> gregory: yes
[01:20] <farous> hkallinikos: ?
[01:20] <hkallinikos> no,the cursor thing
[01:20] <gregory> what about that
[01:21] <gregory> next to it, it says  (1.0.0.0)
[01:21] <hkallinikos> forget it,it was trying to be a joke
[01:21] <satempler> gregory: ok is it doning any thing
[01:21] <mauri> eheh
[01:21] <farous> :)
[01:21] <mauri> i got it
[01:21] <hkallinikos> but didnt made it
[01:21] <gregory> nope
[01:21] <gregory> it keeps timing out
[01:21] <mauri> : |
[01:21] <satempler> gregory: ok are you on the computer you are talking to me from ?
[01:21] <gregory> yes
[01:21] <hkallinikos> i am trying to setup compiz now
[01:21] <gregory> im on mi laptop
[01:22] <jack> is there a vim deb for kubuntu (dapper)?
[01:22] <satempler> gregory: we need to change the mirror to us.archive.ubunu.comm
[01:22] <gregory> im only 13 years old..
[01:22] <gregory> ok
[01:22] <gregory> so how do i do that again.
[01:22] <jack> vim7.0
[01:22] <satempler> gregory: I started on linux when I was 16
[01:22] <satempler> gregory: ok
[01:22] <gregory> cool
[01:22] <satempler> gregory: now sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:23] <gregory> i did that
[01:23] <satempler> i am kinda doing this with you so I know what is going on here
[01:23] <mauri> think he wont forget this :D
[01:23] <gregory> n all the information came up in the konsole
[01:23] <satempler> ok you still have that rectangle box thingy right
[01:23] <kholerabbi> does kubuntu dapper have OOo2?
[01:23] <gregory> were i type next to
[01:24] <gregory> the white boc thingy
[01:24] <gregory> in the konsole
[01:24] <satempler> gregory: ok should be covering deb
[01:24] <satempler> the d in deb
[01:24] <gregory> yeah
[01:24] <farous> !info openoffice
[01:24] <ubotu> Package openoffice does not exist in dapper
[01:24] <soon> Hi there ... in a bash I'm trying to copy some files 'cp /origin/* /destination/*' .... except files names contain spaces and colons and cp fails 'Invalid argument' ... how to fix this?
[01:24] <gregory> so i change it to us?
[01:24] <soon> (sorry ignore the /* after /destination ) :-)
[01:24] <satempler> gregory: ok move it with the arow keys and change au to us in all places that has au
[01:25] <farous> kholerabbi: will check it out for you . i 90% sure it does
[01:25] <gregory> ok
[01:25] <satempler> gregory: yes
[01:25] <serzholino> farous: openoffice.org
[01:25] <gregory> there no writting..
[01:25] <serzholino> !info openoffice.org
[01:25] <ubotu> openoffice.org: OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.0.2-2ubuntu12.1 (dapper), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB (Only available for amd64 ia64)
[01:25] <ninHer> hi all
[01:25] <satempler> gregory: click in the window
[01:25] <farous> thanx serzholino
[01:25] <gregory> ye
[01:26] <satempler> gregory: ok should allow you to edit it
[01:26] <gregory> yeh but there nothing to edit..
[01:26] <satempler> gregory: ok somthing different
[01:26] <satempler> somthing quicker
[01:26] <gregory> kool
[01:26] <satempler> ok close the Konsole
[01:26] <gregory> k
[01:27] <tk> wow, i started an update before I wnt to the movies WAY before... and its still going
[01:27] <satempler> go to the k menu and click on run command
[01:27] <gregory> then
[01:27] <tk> satempler: alt+f2 for a quicker way ;)
[01:27] <satempler> gregory: then kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:27] <farous> tk: dial up ?
[01:27] <satempler> tk thanks
[01:27] <tk> farous: nope, cable... korean cable... but cable
[01:28] <farous> strange seems bad mirror
[01:28] <tk> satempler: yw, keyboard shortcuts are always nice to know :)
[01:28] <gregory> there
[01:28] <satempler> ok now here is what we do
[01:28] <gregory> it came up with the kate thing
[01:28] <gregory> the editing thingy,.
[01:28] <satempler> gregory: ctrl + r
[01:28] <gregory> ok
[01:28] <satempler> should bring up a window
[01:28] <gregory> then
[01:29] <gregory> yep
[01:29] <satempler> ok now type in it au. for the first one
[01:29] <satempler> then replace with us.
[01:29] <gregory> for what
[01:29] <satempler> then click on replace
[01:29] <gregory> o
[01:30] <gregory> replace?
[01:30] <satempler> this changes au to us for us
[01:30] <satempler> yes
[01:30] <gregory> or replacement text
[01:30] <satempler> replacement text
[01:30] <gregory> then what
[01:30] <satempler> then click on replace button
[01:30] <satempler> then hit the save icon
[01:30] <gregory> i havent written enithing in replacment text
[01:31] <satempler> ok put us. in there
[01:31] <gregory> us.
[01:31] <gregory> or us
[01:31] <satempler> yes
[01:31] <gregory> us?
[01:31] <satempler> us.
[01:31] <gregory> ok
[01:31] <gregory> than?
[01:31] <satempler> gregory: click on replace button
[01:31] <gregory> then it says
[01:32] <gregory> 0 replacements made.
[01:32] <gregory> end of document reached.
[01:32] <gregory> coninue from the begining?
[01:32] <satempler> continue from begining
[01:32] <gregory> ok
[01:32] <satempler> replace all
[01:32] <gregory> o wait
[01:32] <satempler> then it should be done
[01:32] <gregory> u no the au things
[01:32] <gregory> there not US
[01:32] <gregory> there still au
[01:32] <gregory> i havent changed them
[01:33] <satempler> damn it
[01:33] <gregory> lol
[01:33] <gregory> ctrl r?
[01:33] <farous> gregory: change them by hand
[01:33] <satempler> gregory: yes
[01:33] <gregory> ok
[01:33] <farous> go to each line and do it by hand
[01:33] <gregory>  i write in ctrl r
[01:33] <satempler> gregory: do what farous says
[01:33] <gregory> au.?
[01:33] <gregory> ok
[01:33] <gregory> ok
[01:33] <satempler> no don't write in ctrl r
[01:33] <gregory> what do i change em to
[01:33] <gregory> us.
[01:33] <satempler> yes
[01:33] <gregory> or ca.
[01:33] <gregory> ok
[01:34] <satempler> at the bottom of this editor there is a tab with terminal
[01:34] <gregory> ye
[01:34] <gregory> i finished by the way
[01:34] <Tarandus> Installing xfonts-dosemu I get four font files, ending with .pcf.gz, all 20 bytes long.  Unpacked, they are all zero bytes long.
[01:35] <satempler> nevermind has to be resised by default and thats to hard
[01:35] <satempler> to describe
[01:35] <satempler> lol
[01:35] <satempler> ok
[01:35] <gregory> lol
[01:35] <gregory> what do i do
[01:35] <satempler> saved
[01:35] <gregory> i changed them to us
[01:35] <gregory> how do i save
[01:35] <satempler> click on the disk icon
[01:35] <gregory> click the floppy disk
[01:35] <gregory> k
[01:35] <satempler> ok
[01:35] <satempler> now close it
[01:35] <gregory> then what
[01:35] <tk> this is kinda of fun to watch satempler :)
[01:35] <gregory> now?
[01:36] <satempler> now go back to the console
[01:36] <gregory> ok
[01:36] <gregory> then what?
[01:36] <satempler> tk: i am glad I am here for your amusement ;)
[01:36] <satempler> ok in the console type sudo apt-get update
[01:37] <gregory> its connecting to the url thing
[01:37] <satempler> ok
[01:37] <gregory> 0% still...
[01:37] <satempler> ok this is getting to be kinda funky
[01:37] <gregory> 0% still................
[01:37] <Arkkis> hey, if I have adept open on my computer, and I want to update my computer via ssh, how can I close the adept so that it releases the lock?
[01:38] <satempler> Arkkis: sudo killall adept
[01:38] <Arkkis> and it releases the needed stuff?
[01:38] <satempler> Arkkis: yes
[01:38] <ninHer> hi all....again
[01:38] <gregory> satempler: still 0%...got another plan...lol
[01:38] <satempler> gregory: you have to use a proxy or any thing weird like that
[01:39] <satempler> ok
[01:39] <gregory> nope
[01:39] <gregory> the internet is working though
[01:39] <gregory> i was on sites beforew
[01:39] <Arkkis> satempler, thanks, worked
[01:39] <satempler> ya I got that
[01:40] <serzholino> gregory: echo $http_proxy ?
[01:41] <gregory> what?
[01:41] <gregory> r u greek lol
[01:41] <gregory> what now satmpler...........:(
[01:41] <serzholino> if you're installing from console and you're behind the proxy, you need to set http_proxy environment variable
[01:42] <satempler> gregory: echo $http_proxy will tell you if you have a proxy
[01:42] <gregory> do i type that in?
[01:42] <satempler> yes
[01:42] <satempler> see if that make a diffrence
[01:42] <tk> gregory: you say you can get online from that box?
[01:42] <satempler> then try the sudo apt-get update
[01:43] <Ash-Fox> Is there a package repository out there, that has firefox-qt ?
[01:43] <gregory> nothing happens when i type the proxy thing
[01:43] <satempler> right
[01:43] <gregory> but if i had a proxy and it wasnt on the internet wouldnt work..
[01:43] <satempler> its just tells the system that there might be a proxy
[01:43] <gregory> but i no i dont have a proxy.
[01:44] <satempler> then don't wory about it
[01:44] <gregory> so now i wont be able to download:(
[01:44] <drayen> anyone know of why i might be getting a fatal Segmentation fault when running FireFox (causeing insta close of FF)
[01:44] <satempler> should
[01:44] <satempler> if it's not there it will be transparent
[01:44] <gregory> im going to get XP back on at the school IT centre
[01:44] <satempler> lol
[01:44] <Ash-Fox> drayen, bad extentions possible, bad plugins too.
[01:45] <drayen> ahh
[01:45] <satempler> gregory: next time try Kubuntu in VMware
[01:45] <gregory> how do i do thaT?
[01:45] <satempler> in windows before ventureing in to linux land
[01:45] <satempler> well if in windows quite easy
[01:45] <satempler> go to vmware.com
[01:46] <drayen> Ash-Fox: any way to work out which ones?
[01:46] <farous> gregory: you just have a bad day
[01:46] <satempler> click on products
[01:46] <gregory> :(
[01:46] <farous> gregory: mirrors might be bad that is all
[01:46] <mauri> dont give up
[01:46] <gregory> isnt there another way i can download things??
[01:46] <farous> gregory: form the box onwhich kubuntu is installed
[01:46] <Ash-Fox> drayen, you're better off looking at what caused the crash than playing guess games
[01:46] <gregory> and other possible way
[01:46] <satempler> farous: we tried mirrors to be working
[01:46] <tk> drayen: i trouble shoot alot of lib problems and such by runnign the program from console in KDE, it will dump all the important data to the terminal as its opening the GUI
[01:47] <farous> type this in a consle ping -c 5 gmail.com
[01:47] <gregory> ok
[01:47] <satempler> gregory yes but this is the way kubuntu gets its important updates
[01:47] <Ash-Fox> drayen, make sure firefox is closed and type this: mv ~/.mozilla ~/old.mozilla
[01:47] <farous> gregory: seems all your probs are net probs thats all
[01:47] <tk> can often see the error messages
[01:47] <Ash-Fox> drayen, see if firefox works fine then
[01:47] <gregory> than what farous?
[01:47] <satempler> farous: he is chating here though on the same laptop
[01:47] <farous> satempler: ah ok
[01:47] <zipper_> I'm having some trouble installing kubuntu on my asus a6r laptop. Basicly the installer won't even boot up in "safe grafics mode". It just stalls at "Uncompressing linux... Ok, booting the kernel". What to do?
[01:47] <gregory> al this writting cam up
[01:47] <Doodluv> gregory: what is in the /etc/apt/apt.conf??
[01:47] <gregory> Farrous: all this writting came up
[01:48] <gregory> 5 packets transmitted 5 recived
[01:48] <farous> gregory: so it gave you at the end time in ms right
[01:48] <nick_> hello
[01:48] <satempler> gregory: that meens you are connected and tells you how long it took to connect
[01:48] <gregory> ok
[01:49] <farous> satempler: did you try the main archives
[01:49] <nick_> i've got a problem with nvu
[01:49] <drayen> Ash-Fox: humm yeah im running it from the command line already - im guessing its my flash plugin tbh - as im in 64bit and its been flaky for a while
[01:49] <gregory> anyone any sujestions for me:( im on 13 years old
[01:49] <satempler> farous: ya been having problems in the us last night security.ubunut.com was taking forever
[01:49] <gregory> i like things to work..
[01:49] <nick_> i've maid my homepage but when i open it in internet explorer it isn't the same as in in firefox!! text en tables are completely wrong
[01:49] <tk> yah, I think i crashed adept! and now i cant access the repo database because it still reads as locked :(
[01:49] <farous> gregory: and you already installed right this is not running from the cd
[01:50] <satempler> gregory: keep at it
[01:50] <gregory> i installed it..
[01:50] <gregory> i delted xp and installed this
[01:50] <satempler> gregory: ohh ohh i have an idea
[01:50] <farous> gregory: leave it today try tommorow
[01:50] <gregory> i aint running of a cd..mi mate has the cd it was his..
[01:50] <gregory> hes dual botting it cause he has a brand new mac
[01:50] <gregory> booting*
[01:50] <farous> the repos might be overloaded or have prob that wil be fixed
[01:51] <gregory> mi friend wants to use it to send virus's
[01:51] <satempler> gregory: ok try ping -c 5 au.archives.ubunut.com
[01:51] <gregory> ok
[01:51] <tk> ACtually that might be why I crashed adept... repo froze at 89% on a php update
[01:51] <tk> and no way to "cancel" an update it seems
[01:51] <farous> lol gregory perhaps that is why kubuntu do not wana install. ;)
[01:51] <satempler> you get the same thing
[01:52] <Ash-Fox> This is cheesy, it's easier for me to build a RPM and then convert it to a .deb package, than actually building the .deb source package
[01:52] <tk> farous: any way to unlock the DB that adept locks when you open it?
[01:52] <Dasnipa`> gregory, your friend is a bad person
[01:52] <satempler> gregory: your friend is a n00b don't send viruses and tell him he is a n00b
[01:52] <gregory> satempler
[01:52] <gregory> i typed it in
[01:52] <satempler> yes
[01:52] <gregory> now what
[01:52] <satempler> ok what is the last line that came back
[01:52] <farous> tk you might try killing adept
[01:53] <tk> farous: its not running
[01:53] <satempler> tk: it might still be running but not visable (eg it crashed)
[01:53] <djclue917> tk: sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[01:54] <gregory> um,  fping: unknown host au.archives.ubnut.com
[01:54] <djclue917> tk: just make sure that dpkg isn't running...
[01:54] <tk> ahh dpkg might be
[01:54] <farous> gregory: there are spelling mistakes
[01:54] <satempler> gregory: sorry
[01:54] <gregory> no there no spelling mistakre
[01:54] <satempler> gregory: its 8am here
[01:54] <mauri> can somebody help me? i was trying to compile mplayerplug-in but make returns ERROR:1
[01:54] <mauri> :|
[01:54] <gregory> thats extacly what it says
[01:54] <satempler> gregory: there is
[01:54] <satempler> on my end
[01:54] <gregory> the last line is
[01:55] <farous> gregory: and that is not the right address
[01:55] <tk> no dpkg either
[01:55] <gregory> fping: unkown host au.archives.ubnut.com
[01:55] <satempler> gregory: its ubuntu not ubunut.com
[01:55] <gregory> o ye
[01:55] <Doodluv> missing some u's,
[01:55] <gregory> ubunut
[01:55] <gregory> lol
[01:55] <djclue917> gregory: au.archive.ubuntu.com
[01:56] <gregory> thats nice..
[01:56] <farous> au.archive.ubuntu.com
[01:56] <gregory> what doo i do people!!!!!!!!!!
[01:56] <satempler> gregory: what djclue917
[01:56] <satempler> said
[01:56] <gregory> im a little 13 year old boy
[01:56] <gregory> do i type that in?
[01:56] <satempler> ok yes
[01:56] <tk> wtf, even deleting the lock file...
[01:56] <satempler> that ping -c 5 au.archive.ubuntu.com
[01:56] <farous> tk: try in a term sudo apt-get update
[01:57] <farous> will give you a message normally of what to do
[01:57] <tk> thats seems to work
[01:57] <satempler> this is what it gave me: 5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 22342ms
[01:57] <satempler> look for somthing like that
[01:57] <gregory> yer i did
[01:58] <satempler> ok what does it say
[01:58] <gregory> time 4002msrrt min
[01:58] <satempler> OMG ok
[01:58] <gregory> --- mirrors.uwa.edu.au ping statistics ---
[01:58] <gregory> 5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 4002ms
[01:58] <gregory> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 59.299/60.376/62.940/1.334 ms
[01:58] <satempler> thats a long time
[01:58] <gregory> --- mirrors.uwa.edu.au ping statistics ---
[01:58] <gregory> 5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 4002ms
[01:58] <gregory> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 59.299/60.376/62.940/1.334 ms
[01:58] <satempler> ok
[01:58] <gregory> there
[01:58] <satempler> got it
[01:59] <djclue917> gregory: what's your problem by the way?
[01:59] <gregory> i want to download stuff.
[01:59] <gregory> but i cant
[01:59] <satempler> gregory: ping -c 5 us.archive.ubuntu.com
[01:59] <djclue917> gregory: what's the error?
[01:59] <gregory> type it in?
[01:59] <gregory> again
[01:59] <satempler> yes
[01:59] <farous> djclue917: he can not update from the repos
[01:59] <farous> connection time out on several mirrors
[01:59] <djclue917> farous: oh ok...
[02:00] <djclue917> gregory: paste the output of cat /etc/apt/sources.list in the pastbin.
[02:00] <djclue917> !pastebin > gregory
[02:00] <gregory> wat
[02:00] <gregory> satempler:now what?
[02:01] <gregory> -- mirror.mcs.anl.gov ping statistics ---
[02:01] <gregory> 5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 4000ms
[02:01] <gregory> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 244.410/247.857/254.812/3.941 m
[02:01] <gregory> there
[02:01] <satempler>  ok
[02:01] <satempler> well you can connect to it may be it just take a wile
[02:01] <gregory> ok
[02:01] <djclue917> gregory: actually, you could just use au.archive.ubuntu.com
[02:01] <gregory> why do i type in??
[02:01] <gregory> Satempler
[02:01] <gregory> n il just leave it cause im hungry
[02:01] <satempler> do sudo apt-get update and walk the dog beat the cat do somthing for a minute
[02:02] <satempler> see what happens when  we are just waiting
[02:02] <gregory> it worked:D
[02:02] <gregory> :D
[02:02] <gregory> :D
[02:02] <gregory> :d
[02:02] <gregory> :d
[02:02] <satempler> cool
[02:02] <gregory> :d
[02:02] <gregory> :D
[02:02] <gregory> WOWWWOWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOo
[02:02] <gregory> WOOT WOOT
[02:02] <satempler> now sudo apt-get install gaim
[02:02] <djclue917> gregory: don't flood the channel.
[02:02] <gregory> SUK MY BALLS AND CAL ME SKIPPY
[02:02] <gregory> sorry:$
[02:02] <gregory> i get exited
[02:03] <gregory> when things work
[02:03] <farous> !language
[02:03] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:03] <satempler> gregory: ok cool
[02:03] <zipper_> I'm having some trouble installing kubuntu on my asus a6r laptop. Basicly the installer won't even boot up in "safe grafics mode". It just stalls at "Uncompressing linux... Ok, booting the kernel". What to do?
[02:03] <gregory> now what satempler
[02:03] <gregory> wait for it to finish?
[02:03] <satempler> gregory: now you can do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:03] <satempler> after it finishes
[02:03] <gregory> 88%
[02:03] <gregory> 95%
[02:03] <Ash-Fox> Okay, what am I supposed to say when Firefox runs at least five times faster under Wine? This is insanely stupid.
[02:04] <satempler> this will give you the latest system
[02:04] <declan> Hi all. New to kubuntu and having problem with repositories. Basically adept cannot  connect at all to any of them.
[02:04] <tk> farous: fixed, had to run dpkg --configure -a
[02:04] <chomi> hello all
[02:04] <gregory> and then what after than satempler?
[02:04] <tk> in order to complete the halted install that froze
[02:04] <farous> tk: nice yah i just forgot the name
[02:04] <farous> tk:  i had this problem before :)
[02:04] <tk> had a problematic deb path as well :/
[02:04] <gregory> im doing sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:04] <satempler> gregory: then you can venture to get things such as codecs and dvd playback support
[02:04] <satempler> ok
[02:04] <chomi> anyone know how to resolve 'C preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check' problem ?
[02:05] <mauri> nope...
[02:05] <gregory> so after that i can start download???:D
[02:05] <satempler> after the dist-upgrade yes
[02:05] <Bazzi> chomi: install build-essential
[02:06] <satempler> you can download things in Konqueror as well
[02:06] <chomi> bazzi i've installed that
[02:06] <mauri> guys, i can't compile mplayeplug-in...any ideas?
[02:06] <gregory> kool
[02:06] <Bazzi> then it should be sane :-(
[02:06] <gregory> u no gnome?
[02:06] <_lucas> which is the default package manager in kubuntu?
[02:06] <satempler> gregory: I like it much better
[02:06] <gregory> can u make it so when you switch users the whole screen like turns around, like a box to the other user like MACS do??
[02:06] <satempler> gregory: I think I am going to go back to in in a minute
[02:06] <djclue917> _lucas: do you mean a front-end to APT? Adept.
[02:07] <_lucas> kool
[02:07] <satempler> using XGL/Compiz yes
[02:07] <_lucas> thx
[02:07] <serzholino> _lucas: adept
[02:07] <satempler> and no
[02:07] <gregory> can it do that satempler?
[02:07] <declan> <<<<Newbie help>>>>  Hi all. New to kubuntu and having problem with repositories. Basically adept cannot  connect at all to any of them.
[02:07] <satempler> gregory: but XGL and Compiz are EXTREAMLY beta
[02:07] <satempler> gregory: with XGL and Compiz
[02:08] <djclue917> declan: may i see your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[02:08] <satempler> !compiz
[02:08] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:08] <gregory> what do i do so i can back the whole screen turn around to switch user?
[02:08] <declan> sure thanks dj
[02:08] <gregory> satempler?
[02:08] <satempler> gregory: not sure
[02:08] <djclue917> declan: use the pastebin by the way.
[02:08] <satempler> in Konversation go to help and then about kde
[02:09] <chomi> :/
[02:09] <satempler> should tell you what you are using
[02:09] <declan> how do i use pastebin?
[02:09] <djclue917> !pastebin
[02:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:09] <gregory> so how do i download another msn messenger satempler?
[02:09] <Jucato> or any KDE app for that matter. KDE App > Help menu > About KDE
[02:09] <satempler> gregory: there are no special effects in kubuntu or ubuntu by default
[02:09] <mauri> apt-get install gaim
[02:09] <gregory> o
[02:10] <mauri> apt-get install kopete
[02:10] <gregory> i want speacial affects
[02:10] <gregory> is there a way to get them?
[02:10] <declan> ok its on pastebin. thanks
[02:11] <satempler> gregory: yes but they may bork your system or it just might not work with your graphics card
[02:11] <satempler> gregory: what do you have currently
[02:11] <gregory> nVidia
[02:11] <gregory> g force
[02:12] <mauri> plz, can anybody help me? :| error while trying to compile mplayerplug-in...
[02:13] <gregory> satempler  how do i get special affects?
[02:13] <satempler> gregory: ok then there are some great howtos out there but
[02:13] <gregory> im prepared to take risks..
[02:13] <satempler> gregory: it's very advanced
[02:13] <satempler> ok
[02:13] <gregory> make it easy lol
[02:13] <satempler> gregory: it's not
[02:13] <mauri> ...
[02:13] <satempler> gregory: editing lots of files
[02:14] <satempler> gregory: and installing binary video drivers
[02:14] <gregory> isnt there just like a program that makes cool spesial affects
[02:14] <satempler> gregory: ya it's compiz
[02:14] <gregory> its called compiz?
[02:14] <arseniq> hi i need a tr-q keymap file for rdesktop
[02:14] <satempler> http://noiesmo.dnsalias.net/article.php?story=20060602173658632
[02:14] <Q-Berlin> it is
[02:14] <satempler> use that guide
[02:15] <satempler> it's just for you
[02:15] <gregory> kool
[02:15] <serzholino> mauri: use kmplayer-konq-plugins :)
[02:15] <mauri> serzolino: what u mean?
[02:16] <serzholino> i mean don't compile yourself, use what is in distro
[02:16] <satempler> gregory: ask for help on compiz in #ubuntu-xgl
[02:16] <satempler> bbl
[02:16] <mauri> serzholino: is it gonna work as well?
[02:16] <gregory> k
[02:17] <serzholino> mauri: what browser?
[02:17] <mauri> firefox
[02:17] <serzholino> mozilla-mplayer
[02:17] <serzholino> should work
[02:17] <gregory> satempler: i really dont get it...
[02:17] <gregory> so just tel me what to do
[02:17] <gregory> i want special affects
[02:18] <mauri> eaaaaaaasy
[02:18] <mauri> :D
[02:18] <mauri> cant figure why i get that error message when i try make
[02:18] <mauri> :|
[02:18] <gregory> some one tel me how to get special affects please
[02:19] <mauri> gregory: #ubuntu-xgl
[02:19] <gregory> wats bbl mean
[02:19] <gregory> i cant talk in private
[02:19] <gregory> tel me how to get special affectd
[02:20] <Dasnipa`> how do you want it to affect your computer?
[02:20] <gregory> well,
[02:20] <serzholino> mauri: where i cat see this message?
[02:20] <gregory> when i switch users from the start menu, i want the whole screen to turn around like a sorta box thing
[02:20] <gregory> macs can do it
[02:20] <serzholino> *can
[02:21] <mauri> serzholino: the plugin is working
[02:21] <Dasnipa`> gregory, imo wait for KDE 4 for that one... and what you are describing are effects... not affects
[02:21] <zipper_> I'm having some trouble installing kubuntu on my asus a6r laptop. Basicly the installer won't even boot up in "safe grafics mode". It just stalls at "Uncompressing linux... Ok, booting the kernel". Anyone have any suggestions?
[02:21] <gregory> ok..wel how can i make it do the effect..
[02:21] <_lucas> how do i install all  dependencies at once using apt-get?
[02:22] <Jucato> I don't think there's anything that can do that kind of effect yet
[02:22] <gregory> macs do it:(
[02:22] <Dasnipa`> gregory, either program it... or wait for KDE4 which might have something similar
[02:22] <CVirus> _lucas: what deps exactly are you talking about ?
[02:22] <djclue917> zipper_: I'm not familiar with ASUS a6r.. what's the arch?
[02:22] <Dasnipa`> linux != mac...
[02:22] <gregory> wat KDE4?
[02:22] <Jucato> ok.. let me rephrase
[02:22] <Jucato> I don't think there's anything that can do that kind of effect yet in Linux
[02:22] <gregory> GAY
[02:23] <Dasnipa`> gregory, stop trolling...
[02:23] <CVirus> gregory: who is ?
[02:23] <Dasnipa`> !op
[02:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about op - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:23] <Dasnipa`> !ops
[02:23] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, uniq, Mez, jpatric, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, or gnomefreak
[02:23] <gregory> the people who made linux lol
[02:23] <_lucas> cvirus: for example, i want to install adept, but also adept-common and all the neccesary libs, but i cant do that using apt-get install adept. which is the propper command?
[02:23] <CVirus> gregory: so you are
[02:23] <gregory> theey shoul of thought bout that effect
[02:23] <gnomefreak> abr gregory
[02:23] <Hobbsee> Dasnipa`: ?
[02:23] <gnomefreak> opps
[02:23] <Hobbsee> gregory: behave.
[02:23] <gnomefreak> hes gone
[02:23] <Jucato> ....
[02:23] <Dasnipa`> troll
[02:24] <gnomefreak> not his first time either
[02:24] <Jucato> sheesh...
[02:24] <CVirus> _lucas: those arent deps .. those are suggested packages .. apt-get install adept will install adept and the necessary deps
[02:24] <mauri> serzholino: i sent you the error....
[02:24] <mauri> :|
[02:25] <zipper_> djclue917, it's a celeron M with an ATI 200m graficscard
[02:25] <_lucas> cvirus: i get depends on: adept common. it wont be installed
[02:25] <gatekeeper> gnomefreak, is he known for it? reason I ask is that he was in here early this morning playing dumb
[02:25] <CVirus> _lucas: apt-get install adept will show you some suggested packages that are related to adept .. you can install some of them if you want but i guess there is no argument that would install them by default
[02:25] <gnomefreak> gatekeeper: ive seen in a few weeks agoo but i havent been around much since than
[02:25] <Jucato> is gregory and Gregory the same person? Gregory was the one asking about installing GAIM a while ago..
[02:25] <CVirus> _lucas: what does sudo apt-get install adept "Exactly" tell u ?
[02:26] <Dasnipa`> Jucato, that makes me sad... because my RL name is 'gregory' :( he is defaming my name!
[02:26] <_lucas> cvirus: adept-installer: Depens on: adept-common but it wont be installed
[02:27] <Jucato> Dasnipa`: ehehe! don't worry... there are many gregory's in the world. he's just one rotten apple :-D
[02:27] <Dasnipa`> Jucato, yeah i know ;)
[02:27] <CVirus> _lucas: will you paste me your sources.list somewhere ?
[02:27] <_lucas> maybe thats the problem. ok
[02:28] <_lucas> brb
[02:28] <CVirus> tyt
[02:28] <excitatory> i'm really having trouble with konqueror accessing the standard gmail interface.. nothing i set for the user-agent works.
[02:28] <Jucato> excitatory: try setting the browser identification to Mozilla 1.7.3
[02:28] <aaron_> i wish there were some decent open source games out there :(
[02:28] <tk> excitatory: because konquerer will only get HTTP style
[02:28] <Jucato> aaron_: what type of game?
[02:29] <tk> Quake 2 was released if you like old FPS... wasnt it?
[02:29] <aaron_> anything thats fun and can be enjoyed with friends :)
[02:29] <tk> FPS qulifies for that :P
[02:29] <excitatory> Jucato, tk, ok thanks
[02:29] <Jucato> tk: you can spoof Gmail using Mozilla 1.7.3 or Safari on OS X
[02:29] <Jucato> but on my side, Safari on OS X no longer works...
[02:29] <tk> jucato: thats interesting... I thought konquerer just sucked and couldnt handle the JS side of it
[02:29] <aaron_> i'm fairly choosy with fps, haven't really been inspired by anything since counter strike :(
[02:30] <Jucato> tk: nah. Gmail just has crappy Javascript code, according to the KDE devs in charge of KHTML
[02:30] <aaron_> is there anything interesting in development atm? anyone got their eye on any OSS projects?
[02:31] <tk> Jucato: ahh oke :)
[02:31] <CVirus> aaron_: planeshift
[02:31] <kristyon> anyone use vmware?
[02:31] <niels> hello everybody
[02:31] <niels> does someone know how to configure that xcommon?
[02:31] <CVirus> aaron_: http://www.planeshift.it/
[02:31] <niels> or something ilke that
[02:31] <niels> i know it's something with x
[02:31] <aaron_> thats made with the crystal space engine isn't it? like that engine... :()
[02:32] <zipper_> djclue917, are you there mate?
[02:32] <CVirus> aaron_: whats wrong with it ?
[02:32] <djclue917> zipper_: oh sorry. i did something important..
[02:33] <aaron_> CVirus: i meant : i like that engine
[02:33] <djclue917> zipper_: actually i can't see why you can't boot/install kubuntu
[02:33] <aaron_> Cvirus: it's very nice comparatively
[02:33] <zipper_> djclue917, sorry, i was slow to reply to your question about my laptop that wasnt able to boot up the installation. It's a celeron M with ati 200m gfxcard
[02:33] <w4zz> some one that can tell me how i get a monitoring sidebar. Whats the name of that everyone uses? :)
[02:33] <zipper_> hmm
[02:33] <CVirus> aaron_: but the game is still at is very developmet stages
[02:33] <zipper_> i checked the install cd, nothing wrong with it either
[02:33] <CVirus> aaron_: it has been a year
[02:33] <CVirus> its*
[02:33] <djclue917> zipper_: maybe it's an issue with the graphics card? i actually have no idea.
[02:33] <zipper_> w4zz, gkrellm
[02:34] <djclue917> zipper_: maybe you could bring this up in the forums.
[02:34] <w4zz> zipper_:  apt-get gkrellm? :P
[02:34] <zipper_> djclue917, that might be a good idea
[02:34] <aaron_> not really into mmo's though
[02:34] <aaron_> their huge time sinks
[02:34] <zipper_> w4zz, close... apt-get install gkrellm
[02:34] <aaron_> they're *
[02:35] <CVirus> aaron_: I used to play WoW for 20 hours per day
[02:35] <zipper_> djclue917, not sure it's a gfx problem though, 200m should work fine with the "ati" driver
[02:35] <Jucato> ehehe.... time sinks...
[02:35] <w4zz> zipper_: thnx.. your the man :D:D
[02:35] <zipper_> w4zz, np :)
[02:35] <aaron_> Cvirus: see?? i haven't got that sort of time,
[02:35] <djclue917> zipper_: actually, i also tried installing kubuntu to an HP laptop but i got the same results.
[02:35] <zipper_> w4zz, you could also use the synaptic package manager for installing it which is probably better for you than installing from console
[02:36] <zipper_> djclue917, what arch/gfx?
[02:36] <djclue917> zipper_: 64-bit. i don't know what graphics card though...
[02:36] <zipper_> hmpf
[02:36] <djclue917> zipper_: AMD64
[02:36] <zipper_> mine isnt even 64bit
[02:37] <zipper_> shouldn't behave like this
[02:37] <zipper_> wierd
[02:37] <userbn> hai
[02:38] <djclue917> zipper_: there are still issues regarding laptops install i think..
[02:38] <kristyon> what do I need to do to allow users write access to /dev/hda6 ?
[02:38] <zipper_> djclue917, apparently, yes =/. I installed ubuntu on a ibm thinkpad a few weeks ago, that went smoothly
[02:38] <kristyon> not just /media/hda6
[02:38] <richardh_> Hi, Wifi question here...anyone familiar?
[02:38] <zipper_> richardh_, just ask your question
[02:39] <zipper_> to the whole channel
[02:40] <w4zz> where i find themes to gkrellm
[02:40] <w4zz> ?
[02:40] <richardh_> right...newest kubuntu, wifi worked out of the box and connected automatically at startup...I then added a WEP key, now I always have to connect manually whenever I start up...why?
[02:42] <w4zz> zipper_: where i find themes to gkrellm?
[02:42] <zipper_> w4zz, hmm, google?
[02:42] <w4zz> okei, i'll give it a try
[02:43] <zipper_> w4zz, there is a lot of addons for gkrellm... Try searching for them in synaptic, or in console "apt-cache search gkrellm"
[02:47] <w4zz> thnx everyone... i <3 kubuntu :D
[02:49] <kristyon> how do I edit fstab to allow anyone access to /hda6 a vfat partition?
[02:50] <J4t> umask=022 ?
[02:50] <kristyon> what about gid?
[02:50] <djclue917> kristyon: umask=0222
[02:50] <kristyon> thanks, anyway to remount instead of reboot?
[02:50] <harmental> where are the icons stored in kubuntu?
[02:51] <kristyon> guess I just umount then mount then
[02:52] <glen_> kristyon, sudo umount <mountpoint> then sudo mount -a
[02:52] <glen_> kristyon, (if you want to mount all)
[02:52] <kristyon> thanks
[02:55] <glen_> could somebody give me guidance on configuring a patched xine-lib (fixes flac playback in amarok) so that amarok will use the patched version. i've patched the source but am not sure where amarok looks for the library.
[02:58] <kristyon> trying to allow vwmare to use my existing fat32 partition but still getting permissions problems
[02:59] <Dustman> hi all
[02:59] <glen_> kristyon, i have : users,rw,gid=users,umask=0002,utf8=true 0 0 - you could try that
[02:59] <niels> lo everybody
[03:00] <niels> I have a black vertical line of +-1cm in my left side of my pc
[03:00] <niels> *screen
[03:00] <niels> can someone help me?
[03:01] <office_> !ati
[03:01] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:02] <_eckobar_> hi everybody
[03:02] <_eckobar_> i have the following problem..... i want to ping my ubuntu computer, the ubuntu pc can ping the gateway,dns and all other computer in the net, BUT the ubuntu pc could not be pinged???? why?? i use ubuntu 6.06
[03:02] <_eckobar_> would be thankful for any help
[03:04] <kristyon> still no joy for vmware access. anyone know much about vmware?
[03:05] <_eckobar_> kristyon: what you need?
[03:05] <glen_> _eckobar_, what ping error are you getting?
[03:06] <kristyon> I want vmware to be able to use an existing physical vfat paritition (one of my xp partitions) but I keep getting disk access permission errors
[03:06] <zipper_> I'm having some trouble installing kubuntu on my asus a6r (celeron m, ati 200m) laptop. Basicly the installer won't even boot up in "safe grafics mode". It just stalls at "Uncompressing linux... Ok, booting the kernel" / "Using hpet for high-res timesource" . Anyone have any suggestions?
[03:06] <kristyon> might have someting to do with apic zipper
[03:08] <_eckobar_> maybe the rights of the /dev/hdxxx file???? but don't know, i do not use physical parts in vmware, only virtuell.
[03:08] <niels> ty very mucht ubotu
[03:08] <niels> and can you help me another time?
[03:09] <Wind> where can i get a list of the things i need to apt-get for playing dvds and cds
[03:11] <_eckobar_> Wind: try mplayer, is a GREAT tool
[03:11] <Wind> don't i need codecs and such
[03:11] <kristyon> wind, search for automatix, it'll will do it all for you
[03:12] <Wind> automatrix = bad
[03:12] <kristyon> why?
[03:12] <kristyon> fine for me
[03:12] <Wind> it installed a bunch of stuff i didn't need
[03:12] <ZIM> Thor where for art thy Thor
[03:12] <serzholino> Wind: kaffeine or kmplayer with xine engine
[03:12] <Wind> so i spent last night trying to get rid of them
[03:12] <kristyon> how about easyubuntu then
[03:12] <Wind> xine engine?
[03:12] <kristyon> anyway you can select what you want with automatix
[03:12] <serzholino> mplayer can't play DVD menus
[03:13] <kristyon> xine works ok
[03:13] <serzholino> Wind: yep, these players uses engines to play, they're not selfplaying
[03:13] <glen_> serzholino, vlc will
[03:13] <_eckobar_> kristyon: any ideas why i could not ping my ubuntu pc? but the ubuntu pc could ping all other on the network??
[03:13] <kristyon> you need xine libs, xine ui, libdvdcss, libdvd read libdvdplay and libdvdnav
[03:13] <serzholino> kmplayer can use mplayer, xine, gstreamer...
[03:14] <kristyon> firewall eckobar?
[03:14] <ninHer> i'd check if the copy is safe or right
[03:14] <kristyon> try sudi ping
[03:14] <ninHer> oops, sorry....forget the last line
[03:14] <kristyon> sudo ping
[03:14] <ninHer> mine, of course
[03:14] <_eckobar_> kristyon: i started ubuntu in live mode from dvd. is there any firewall???
[03:15] <kristyon> dont know sorry, haven't used it
[03:16] <_eckobar_> fu**
[03:18] <zipper_> djclue917, it's now on the forums : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1367203#post1367203
[03:18] <djclue917> zipper_: i see. good luck! :)
[03:18] <zipper_> thank you :)
[03:19] <zipper_> probably going to need it
[03:21] <xevil> !java
[03:21] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[03:24] <flaccid> !mail
[03:24] <ubotu> mail is another medium to communicate. Ubuntu mailinglists can be found at http://lists.ubuntu.com
[03:24] <flaccid> !imap
[03:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about imap - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:24] <flaccid> !pop
[03:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about pop - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:24] <flaccid> !pop3
[03:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about pop3 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:24] <flaccid> !smtp
[03:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about smtp - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:24] <flaccid> !postfix
[03:24] <ubotu> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Postfix or here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[03:24] <flaccid> !courier-imap
[03:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about courier-imap - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:25] <flaccid> dang
[03:26] <andrewh>  hi, i'm using kde 3.5.2 on kubuntu. The icons in the panel are slightly too large, and changing the size of the panel doesn't seem to affect it. I looked in the panel properties and couldn't see anything to change their size, same in apperance and other areas of the system settings...can anyone help?
[03:26] <andrewh> I seem to remember the problem occured when switching to the 'human' icon theme, which comes with ubuntu. Do I have to install scalable icons? doesn't kde scale the icons for me? It's just a niggle but it would be nice to know.
[03:28] <AdamBrz> alright im loading up kubuntu from livec da gain and i always get stuck wher kubuntu logo and blue bar below it, i get past it in begiingin adn all that and then balck adn white txt all good then it goes to tht blue bar and seems to jsut stop
[03:29] <andrewh> panel icons...human theme...icon's don't scale...why....why....why..... ;-)
[03:29] <xnt> hola?
[03:31] <narvik86> i have problem with krusader, it don't want to run, tried to remove and install again.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20284
[03:32] <narvik86> and my pc can restart at any time :/
[03:33] <klerfayt> an utility that lets me extract the contents of .bin file?
[03:34] <narvik86> klerfayt: it is iso or binay file?
[03:34] <failure> hi, is already safe to upgrade kubuntu dapper to kde 3.5.4?
[03:35] <Jucato>  would anyone happen to know how I can make yakuake appear at the bottom?
[03:35] <klerfayt> narvik86: .bin file
[03:36] <narvik86> klerfayt: but IMO .bin can be an iso file or binnary file
[03:36] <klerfayt> narvik86: are you saying that I can extract sdfg.bin file using e.g. kiso?
[03:37] <narvik86> klerfayt: if it is that kind of file type, yes
[03:38] <narvik86> brb
[03:41] <Kabal> Hi all,  Does anyone know how to get video-thumbnails working in Konqueror?
[03:42] <RawSewage> yes
[03:42] <RawSewage> instal ARTS first
[03:47] <RawSewage> why did you ask
[03:47] <thor_> hello ZIM
[03:47] <RawSewage> Ok, Im done with this channel
[03:49] <zipper_> djclue917, dont know if you care, but i think i've solved the problem. Apparently ubuntu uses the acpi=off boot option for disabling acpi, instead of debian's 'noacpi'... i'm booting the installation right now :)
[03:50] <djclue917> zipper_: oh.. you might want to put that in the forums too. :)
[03:50] <zipper_> i'm about to
[03:51] <_kalm> Haha cool im using my mobile phone
[03:51] <_kalm> And it works :D
[03:51] <Jucato> _kalm: kool! what brand/model?
[03:52] <Sakireth> where to find stuff to extend your desktop and replace stuff in kde to get more modern stuff, like kbfx and stuff? (notice i say a lot of stuff.)
[03:52] <Sakireth> "stuff"*
[03:52] <_kalm> Im using a nokia 3230 and a j2me app "virca"
[03:52] <Jucato> ooh
[03:53] <_kalm> Which should worj on any phone
[03:54] <_kalm> Lol this is great! Irc and messenger on my phone
[03:54] <MuJ> hasn' it always been acpi=off... and noapic..
[03:54] <kristyon> anyone got an irc for vmware?
[03:55] <MuJ> uhh.. irc for vmware?
[03:55] <kristyon> yes
[03:56] <MuJ> what do you mean irc for vmware?
[03:56] <jott> is there a irssi livecd? ;)
[03:56] <MuJ> jott: I think not :D
[03:56] <kristyon> a vmare irc channel
[03:56] <MuJ> ooh... irc channel! why didn't you say that in the first place?
[03:56] <kristyon> braindead
[03:56] <MuJ> =)
[03:56] <MuJ> I have no idea :P
[03:57] <earthsound> kristyon: did you try #vmware ;)
[03:57] <kristyon> cant get vmware to use an existing physical partition
[03:57] <kristyon> no not yet
[03:57] <jott> altough an irssi livecd would be funny.. just boot into irssi in textmode ;)
[03:57] <kristyon> this is the only irc I've ever used!
[03:57] <Jucato> lol
[03:57] <earthsound> :)
[03:58] <Cavallo> why with kubuntu my laptop batery is in 1:30h empty. With windows on laptop batery was for about 2:30h. Is there any special reason for that ?
[03:58] <earthsound> type /join #vmware
[03:58] <kristyon> in here?
[03:58] <earthsound> yes, where you are typing now
[03:58] <kristyon> whoppee!
[03:58] <earthsound> :) have fun
[03:59] <MuJ> Cavallo: propably somekind of drivers or monitor that doesn't work properly on linux
[04:00] <lters> Cavallo: apt-get install kowersave
[04:00] <kristyon> why do wires always tangle themselves up?
[04:00] <lters> Cavado "sudo apt-get install kpowersave"
[04:00] <lters> is much better.
[04:01] <kristyon> anyone managed to get lives working in dapper?
[04:01] <Cavallo> thanks
[04:01] <jott> Cavallo: you can also try klaptopdaemon
[04:01] <Wind> what is that dvd copy program called?
[04:01] <Wind> k9copy?
[04:02] <kristyon> new k3b supports ripping to I've seen
[04:06] <Wind> !info codecs
[04:06] <ubotu> Package codecs does not exist in dapper
[04:06] <Wind> what codecs do i need to play cds and dvds
[04:06] <Wind> commercial dvds and cds
[04:07] <jott> !plf
[04:07] <ubotu> plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf - mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc
[04:07] <berni> salut
[04:07] <zipper_> hmm? Doesnt codecs exist in the multiverse/universe repositories?
[04:07] <zipper_> Wind, look into easyUbuntu
[04:08] <zipper_> helps you install codecs
[04:08] <jott> wind look at the plf site otherwise..
[04:10] <hub> Riddell: here?
[04:11] <bastl_> b
[04:11] <Riddell> hub: hi
[04:11] <hub> Riddell: hi. kopete on kubuntu 3.5.4 repository hard depends on xmms.
[04:11] <hub> Riddell: is that a bug ? neither dapper official or edgy does
[04:11] <hub>  *** 4:3.5.4+kopete0.12.1-0ubuntu3~dapper1 0
[04:11] <hub>         500 http://kubuntu.org dapper/main Packages
[04:12] <hub> this is the one I use
[04:12] <Riddell> hub: yes, it just means I built it in a chroot that had xmms installed
[04:12] <hub> :-/
[04:12] <hub> so I'd better rebuild it then
[04:12] <Wind> where do i get easyubuntu
[04:12] <Jucato> Riddell: hi! If you don't mind, I have a question about KDE 3.5.4 also
[04:12] <Riddell> hub: by the way toma has digikam packages http://kubuntu.omat.nl/dapper/
[04:12] <Riddell> Jucato: sure
[04:13] <Wind> i did what it said on the easyubuntu site but it gives me errors
[04:13] <hub> Riddell: ah kool. thanks
[04:13] <Jucato> Riddell: It seems that media:/ doesn't display partitions that aren't mounted at boot. Even when I mount them within KDE, they still don't appear in media:/, but I can access them through "/media/mount_point"
[04:13] <harmental> does anybody know if the (k)ubuntu team is planning ot release un update of conky in the repos?
[04:14] <Riddell> Jucato: yes, seems to be a side effect of 3.5.4 using more HAL features, I'm yet to look into it
[04:14] <Riddell> harmental: conky?
[04:14] <harmental> !conky
[04:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about conky - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:15] <djon> salut a tous
[04:15] <Jucato> Riddell: oh. I thought I was the only one having these problems. Thanks!
[04:15] <harmental> Riddell: (the best) system monitor for X
[04:16] <thierry> hi
[04:16] <thierry> i've just install dapper
[04:16] <thierry> and i get a problem with my mouse on a laptop
[04:16] <Dr_willis> oh?
[04:17] <thierry> the mouse is cliking alone
[04:17] <klerfayt> narvik86: I can't extract the .bin file using kiso
[04:17] <Dr_willis> thierry,  ya mean the touchpad isent working but the mouse is?
[04:17] <thierry> does anyone know the problem ?
[04:17] <thierry> yes the mouse is quiet ok
[04:18] <Dr_willis> thierry,  does the touchpad work if you dont have the mouse plugged in?
[04:18] <thierry> but sometime it's clik without i ask
[04:18] <Dr_willis> Hmm... now ya lost me. :)
[04:18] <Riddell> harmental: 1.4.2 is in edgy, that's the latest version
[04:18] <thierry> i use the touchpad
[04:19] <Dr_willis> thierry,  so you may be accidently touching the touchpad and sending a 'click' when you dont want to?
[04:19] <Sakireth> i wish i was able to compile apps from kde-apps.org on ubuntu, but i have -dev problems, i don't know what libraries i need.
[04:19] <thierry> i don't think so
[04:19] <thierry> it's happen too often
[04:19] <klerfayt> Sakireth: look at errors
[04:19] <abattoir> thierry: amd64 by any chance?
[04:20] <Dr_willis> thierry,  ive heard of the over sensivive touch pad/clicking quite often... not heard of 'random clickings' befor. :)
[04:20] <harmental> ok...so is it safe to upgrade from dapper to edgy?
[04:20] <Wind> what the hell
[04:20] <Dr_willis> Its proberly best to advoide edgy for a while. :P
[04:20] <thierry> @abattoir -> pIV
[04:20] <Dr_willis> unless of course you are just wanting to play with it.
[04:20] <Wind> i'm installing easy ubuntu but the easy ubuntu log is showing errors left and right
[04:21] <Wind> ok this is retarded
[04:21] <Wind> i just want to codecs
[04:21] <Wind> i don't want some gui to do it for me
[04:21] <Dr_willis> Wind,  i normally just grab the codec packages from the mplayer homepage and install them manually
[04:21] <harmental> Riddell: which repo shoul i add to my dapper if i wanted to just update conky, and not the whole system?
[04:21] <Wind> that's what i want to do!
[04:21] <Dr_willis> !w32codecs
[04:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:21] <Sakireth> i wish i was able to compile apps from kde-apps.org on ubuntu, but i have -dev problems, i don't know what libraries i need. <-- with that i mean i don't like spending a week installing all libraries i need. i need an easier way
[04:21] <Wind> but everyone is telling to use automatix and easyubuntu
[04:21] <thierry> @ dr_willis -> i don't know about also
[04:21] <Riddell> harmental: there is no such repo (since backports isn't operational)
[04:22] <z00m> is there any anti virus software for linux ?
[04:22] <Dr_willis> Wind,  oh? i normally say the Opposite... DONT use easyubuntu, and NEVER use automatix. :P
[04:22] <klerfayt> Sakireth: it will not take a week
[04:22] <thierry> no problem with an other distrib i've used
[04:22] <z00m> thats in the adapt manager
[04:22] <Wind> bleh
[04:22] <Dr_willis> z00m,  yes. but you poberly dont need it.
[04:22] <Sakireth> klerfayt: doing it manually, listing every error - i think "yes, it will take a week"
[04:22] <klerfayt> Sakireth: just look at errors, they will tell you what libraries are missing
[04:22] <Jucato> harmental: mixing repos from different realeses (dapper and edgy) is not good, as it will probably break the dependencies of your system
[04:22] <Sakireth> klerfayt: installing libraries manually is VERY frustrating
[04:22] <thierry> i think about xorg.onf but i don't know what to hange...
[04:22] <z00m> Dr_willis: just wanted to get something for finding rootkits or if my box has been compromissed
[04:23] <klerfayt> Sakireth: use adept
[04:23] <Sakireth> klerfayt: since i don't know the names and stuff, and other things..
[04:23] <Sakireth> adept for what?
[04:23] <Sakireth> do what in adept?
[04:23] <klerfayt> Sakireth: to install -dev libraries
[04:23] <Dr_willis> z00m,  that wouldent be an anti-virus tool then. :P theres root-kit detector programs and other  tools like tripwire and so forth for that.
[04:23] <z00m> ok ill look into tripwire
[04:24] <harmental> ok...so coming back to my first question:
[04:24] <Sakireth> how can i solve the problem when i don't even know what libraries i have to install? Ubuntu is supposed to work out-of-the-box. but without libraries preinstalled, it's not good - is there some package which installs all needed libraries?
[04:24] <harmental> does anybody know if the (k)ubuntu team is planning ot release un update of conky in the repos?
[04:24] <harmental> FOR DAPPER
[04:24] <z00m> is there a flash plugin yet for firefox in amd64 version ?
[04:24] <Jucato> harmental: you already got the response from a Kubuntu developer
[04:24] <klerfayt> Sakireth: again - look at warnings you get while compiling
[04:25] <thierry> no one has idea for my mouse problem ^^
[04:25] <Sakireth> klerfayt: Often, the warnings don't make sense. and if you do that, it keeps complaining with every install of another library, and after 3 hours, it doesn't work
[04:25] <R1CHARD> buy another
[04:26] <Dr_willis> thierry,  its a 'touchpad' problem - sounds like to me.. could install that ksynaptic tool and see if you can disable the touchpad on the fly and if the problem still exists
[04:26] <Sakireth> is there some package to install all needed -dev libraries so i can compile everything? This is my question.
[04:26] <harmental> Jucato: dont get it :o(
[04:26] <Dr_willis> Sakireth,  'everything' is rather large.
[04:26] <kristyon> anyone got lives to work?
[04:26] <thierry> @dr_willis -> if i disable i won't have mouse anymore ?
[04:26] <Jucato> harmental: hmm... how do I explain this...
[04:26] <harmental> kristyon: what is lives?
[04:26] <Sakireth> Dr_willis: Well, so i can compile KDE apps and stuff like that.
[04:26] <kristyon> video editor
[04:27] <Dr_willis> Sakireth,  fire yup the package manager and look for the kde-dev  packages I guess.. not sure how they are divided up.
[04:27] <Dr_willis> thierry,  if you are using a mouse and a touchpad.. and disable the touchpad.. then you will have the mouse.
[04:27] <klerfayt> Sakireth: give me an example of application you are trying to compile
[04:28] <thierry> @dr_willis -> ok :)
[04:28] <thierry> dr_willis, i only use touchpad
[04:29] <kristyon> anyone using an easy video editor?
[04:29] <thierry> no other mouse
[04:29] <tk> ugh, are there any graphical FTP clients that dont crash as soon as you give them something to do?
[04:29] <Sakireth> klerfayt: codeine
[04:29] <thierry> @tk -> gftp
[04:30] <Jucato> harmental: during the development of Kubuntu, there comes a time when no new features/versions of apps/packages are accepted. This is done in order to preserve the stability of the release. Sometimes, I think this period in development is what they call "Feature Freeze". So apps that released new versions during/after Kubuntu's feature freeze don't get included anymore
[04:30] <tk> thierry: just did... it crashed on download and on deleting a local directory...
[04:30] <Jucato> tk: have you tried Konqueror?
[04:30] <Dr_willis> thierry,  you are describing exactly the 'accidently tapping the touchpad' problem ive seen befor.
[04:30] <tk> no, I was going for ftp specific
[04:30] <thierry> @tk -> maybe kbear
[04:30] <Jucato> oh...
[04:31] <Jucato> tk:  well, try it out. it might not crash... who knows :-D it's still ftp...
[04:31] <excitatory> is there any way to easily output the versions of everything build-essential installed?
[04:31] <thierry> dr_willis, you mean it's me who is clicking on my left button ?
[04:32] <Dr_willis> thierry,  yes.. some touchpads can be very very senestive.. and have a 'tap to click feature'
[04:32] <tk> thierry: pressure on the case of the laptop near the touchpad can sometimes trigger their sensors in odd ways
[04:32] <J4t> KFTPGrapper?
[04:32] <J4t> grabber, even
[04:32] <tk> J4t: tried it first :P
[04:32] <J4t> :)
[04:32] <J4t> ok, then
[04:32] <Dr_willis> I do it all the time while using the laptop keyboard.. plug in an external keyboard and seeif it still happens.
[04:33] <thierry> @dr_willis & tk : but it's doesn't happen with fedora i've used for 2 year...
[04:33] <thierry> why just now ?
[04:34] <tk> thierry: mine doesnt do it in windows but it does in linux... :P
[04:34] <Dr_willis> thierry,  no clue. i dont have exp.
[04:34] <Dr_willis> highly possible they are using a different touchpad driver.
[04:34] <Dr_willis> or they got the clicking/tap feature disabled by default.
[04:34] <Dr_willis> compare your fedora xorg.conf vs the kubuntu one.
[04:35] <harmental> jucato: ok....so i guess my question is when will edgy become stable?
[04:35] <Dr_willis> harmental,  about 6 mo after its released. :P
[04:35] <thierry> ok, try to fix it like that
[04:35] <Dr_willis> !info ksynaptic
[04:35] <ubotu> Package ksynaptic does not exist in dapper
[04:35] <Dr_willis> Hmm
[04:36] <Dr_willis> !synaptic
[04:36] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[04:36] <Dr_willis> that aint it.. whats the name of that program for the touchpad..
[04:36] <tk> kbear crashed too
[04:36] <tk> ugh
[04:36] <Jucato> harmental: err.. Edgy Eft will be released in October, but take note. Edgy will really be edgy, meaning cutting edge, and probably not as stable as Dapper...
[04:37] <tk> gets its back to command line for me... or windows for ftping mass sites
[04:37] <tk> guesss
[04:37] <Jucato> harmental: in the past, the backports repository was the place to look for newer versions of some packages that some developers/maintainers decided to upgrade, but not include in the main repositories (for system stability and integrity). However, according to Kubuntu devs, Backports has been non-functional for quite some time now.
[04:37] <thierry> @tk -> what are the errors messages ?
[04:38] <tk> just Sigsev
[04:38] <tk> i dont have gdb installed to backtrace it at the moment
[04:38] <harmental> Jucato: so..what you mean is that the next release of kubuntu wont be as stable as dapper???
[04:39] <Dr_willis> edgy is to be real cutting edge. :P
[04:39] <niels> lo everybody
[04:39] <Jucato> well, probably not. but it will be stable. but not as stable as Dapper. Remember that Dapper was made to last, supported for 5 years. Something like Debian Sarge...
[04:39] <thierry> @tk -> have you launch it from command line ?
[04:39] <niels> can someone help me how to edit your sources file?
[04:39] <Gh0st75> lots of changes in store with edgy?
[04:39] <Dr_willis> aparently :P
[04:39] <Gh0st75> cool
[04:39] <Jucato> niels: just right-click on /etc/apt/sources.list and choose Actions >Edit as Root
[04:40] <tk> thierry: typically I would but I figured this was just an isolated problem... reinstalled base FTP files, if that dont work, ill do cmd line
[04:40] <deb> Anyone know how to play 3gp format in Linux . what plugin I need ?
[04:40] <thierry> @tk -> i mean with command line you'll have all the error messages
[04:41] <thierry> or by looking at the log system
[04:41] <tk> i know, i typically do that, its how i got Amarok working
[04:41] <klerfayt> Sakireth: good news; codeine is in repos
[04:41] <tk> well amarok + MySQL
[04:41] <mae> codeine?
[04:41] <kristyon> anyone using video editing?
[04:41] <mae> isn't mysql a bit overkill for amarok?
[04:41] <kristyon> what is the edgy repo?
[04:41] <klerfayt> Sakireth: enable universe
[04:42] <kristyon> I mean where
[04:42] <thierry> @tk -> ok
[04:42] <kristyon> mae, not if you have 10000 files
[04:42] <kristyon> can use sql lite
[04:42] <mae> kristyon: sqlite will work just as good
[04:42] <mae> theres no concurrency
[04:43] <mae> in fact sqlite will most likely be faster
[04:43] <maarten> Hello everyone
[04:43] <Jucato> anyone here has any experience in changing USplash to Splashy?
[04:43] <niels> jucato, i tried several times but it doesn't work
[04:43] <niels> it doesn't open:(
[04:44] <niels> can you send me your file?
[04:44] <niels> then I just have to paste it in my map
[04:44] <Jucato> niels: then from Konsole, type "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[04:44] <niels> thx jucato
[04:44] <lters> trying to get X to let a remote x session in...
[04:45] <lters> I edited the xserver and remove the nolisten tcp...
[04:45] <kristyon> video editing? any success stories?
[04:45] <Jucato> niels: if you need a clean sources.list, you might want to check this out: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/sources.php
[04:47] <niels> jucato, they say that /etc/apt/sources.list exists but isn't a map
[04:48] <jott> kristyon: check out www.jahshaka.org looks quite promising
[04:49] <Jucato> niels:  er.. my bad. I thought you were talking about editing your sources.list. what "sources" were you referring to?
[04:49] <kristyon> aha, I forgot about that, thanks jott
[04:49] <niels> jes jes
[04:49] <niels> it is sources.list
[04:50] <Jucato> um... it's telling you that it isn't a map?
[04:50] <niels> jes
[04:50] <Jucato> niels: ok, just do this, in Konsole, type in "kdesu kate"
[04:50] <niels> and when I go check that I c an empty map named sources.list(sl) and a document sl and a document sl_backup
[04:50] <niels> have to wait 1m25s
[04:51] <niels> he's upgradign
[04:51] <Jucato> once Kate (in super-user mode) is launched, just open /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:51] <niels> k i'll do that in a min
[04:51] <niels> and another problem jucato, i did all those thing some hours ago and when I rebooted it failed :(
[04:51] <J4t> just open another terminal :)
[04:51] <Jucato> what do you mean by "failed"?
[04:52] <niels> eum you know the screen Load .. [ok] 
[04:52] <niels> those things?
[04:52] <Jucato> hmm...
[04:53] <niels> i think the fault is that it isn't all updated
[04:53] <niels> now there appears(after upgrading) that i have to try update or --fix missing cos some archives couldn't be get
[04:54] <Jucato> ... @_@
[04:54] <Jucato> I'm getting dizzy...
[04:54] <niels> do u know what i mean?
[04:54] <Jucato> try "sudo dpkg --configure -a" ?
[04:56] <niels> then just another line shows with again niels@niels-destkop:~$
[04:59] <hub> Riddell: I did rebuild Kopete without xmms using the source package and it does not longer depend on xmms
[05:01] <niels> jucato, what's the commadn 4 editing that x?(something with x11?)
[05:01] <Jucato> niels: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf ??
[05:02] <niels> xorg.conf is empty with me?:(
[05:02] <Jucato> err...
[05:02] <Jucato> close that (without saving)
[05:03] <Jucato> then try, kdesu kate, then from Kate, open up xorg.conf by going to /etc/X11
[05:03] <niels> when i give in kdesu kate
[05:03] <niels> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[05:03] <niels>   Major opcode:  144
[05:03] <niels>   Minor opcode:  3
[05:03] <niels>   Resource id:  0x0
[05:03] <niels> Failed to open device
[05:03] <niels> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[05:03] <niels>   Major opcode:  144
[05:03] <niels>   Minor opcode:  3
[05:03] <niels>   Resource id:  0x0
[05:03] <niels> Failed to open device
[05:03] <niels> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[05:03] <niels>   Major opcode:  144
[05:03] <niels>   Minor opcode:  3
[05:03] <Jucato> niels: when you want to post multiple lines, use pastebin
[05:03] <niels>   Resource id:  0x0
[05:04] <niels> Failed to open device
[05:04] <niels> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[05:04] <niels>   Major opcode:  144
[05:04] <niels>   Minor opcode:  3
[05:04] <niels>   Resource id:  0x0
[05:04] <Jucato> erm.. you can stop now
[05:04] <niels> Failed to open device
[05:04] <niels> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[05:04] <niels>   Major opcode:  144
[05:04] <niels>   Minor opcode:  3
[05:04] <niels>   Resource id:  0x0
[05:04] <niels> Failed to open device
[05:04] <niels> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[05:04] <trappist> sigh.
[05:04] <niels>   Major opcode:  144
[05:04] <niels>   Minor opcode:  3
[05:04] <niels>   Resource id:  0x0
[05:04] <niels> Failed to open device
[05:04] <Jucato> !pastebin > niels
[05:04] <niels> kbuildsycoca running...
[05:04] <niels> ScimInputContextPlugin()
[05:04] <niels> sry about the spamming
[05:04] <Jucato>  @_@
[05:04] <niels> how do you do that?
[05:04] <niels> how do you pastebin?
[05:04] <trappist> niels: don't.  do.  that.
[05:04] <tk> looks like reinstalling ftp fixed my problem
[05:04] <Jucato> !pastebin
[05:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:04] <Jucato> go to that site
[05:05] <Jucato> niels: does kdesu kate still open, even with those error messages?
[05:05] <niels> jes
[05:05] <niels> but it's empty
[05:05] <Jucato> niels: then there's no problem. do the 2nd one I said
[05:05] <Jucato> kdesu kate
[05:05] <Jucato> then just open up xorg.conf manually
[05:07] <niels> k i opened it manually
[05:07] <Jucato> ok there you have it
[05:07] <niels> ty
[05:07] <kristyon> what package is qmake in?
[05:08] <trappist> kristyon: sudo apt-get install apt-file; sudo apt-file update; apt-file search qmake
[05:09] <trappist> kristyon: qt3-dev-tools
[05:09] <kristyon> thankyou trappist
[05:09] <eric__> hi
[05:09] <trappist> kristyon: but do the above anyway - it comes in handy for answering those questions
[05:09] <kristyon> yes, i was wondering what they called
[05:10] <kristyon> new to apt. better than yast for packages
[05:10] <trappist> kristyon: yeah, finding out what package provided what file was the last thing I missed about rpm-based systems, where it's usually built in, but apt-file fills in the blank
[05:11] <trappist> I guess I'd sorta like to have it builtin, but not at the expense off all the unnecessary package metadata overhead you get with rpm systems
[05:12] <trappist> s/off/of/
[05:13] <bebop> ..
[05:13] <niels> does somebody know how to open (in konsole) a sort of 'tutorial' where you have to answer all kinds of question such as type of keyboard, videocard...
[05:14] <niels> something with x11
[05:16] <trappist> niels: for video card, sudo dpkg-reconfiger xserver-xorg
[05:16] <kristyon> yast was good a a general tool, wonder if I could compile for kubuntu
[05:16] <trappist> err dpkg-reconfigure
[05:17] <trappist> niels: come to think of it, that should ask you about your keyboard as well
[05:19] <insanekane> kristyon: there is an ongoing effort yast4debian
[05:19] <kristyon> where?
[05:20] <insanekane> kristyon: google for it
[05:20] <kristyon> yeah i was hoping to be lazy :-))
[05:20] <Jucato> cool. I tried out openSUSE 10.1 with KDE 3.5.4 on vmware, and I liked the concept of YaST
[05:21] <kristyon> is very good, been using suse since 6.2 but dont like suse now novell has messed with it. yast too slow for packages and repos aren't very good. getting dvd css on suse 10.1 is hard
[05:24] <trappist> kristyon: it's a bit of a pita on ubuntu still, too
[05:25] <kristyon> automatix did it for me, damn site easier than suse!
[05:25] <kristyon> should be part of main install!
[05:25] <Jucato> kristyon: then so should EasyUbuntu... I think they're just trying to play fair by not including both...
[05:26] <Jucato> I'm just presuming...
[05:26] <Healot> !!automatix
[05:26] <ubotu> I know nothing about !automatix - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:26] <kristyon> easybuntu was harder to install somehow, automatix was the one that installed it for me first
[05:26] <Healot> !automatix
[05:26] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[05:27] <Jucato> some swear by Automatix, some by EasyUbuntu, and some by apt-get... :-D
[05:27] <trappist> kristyon: I just say sudo sh /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[05:27] <kristyon> oh. bugger
[05:27] <kristyon> didn't know about that one
[05:30] <tk> hah, wget works nicely for what I needed :D
[05:30] <tk> didnt know it would do recursing
[05:30] <tk> its a handy lil tool
[05:31] <wind> ok Dr_willis, what do i need to get
[05:31] <wind> and can i get them with apt-get
[05:31] <wind> i need video codecs (or whatever they are called) to play commercial dvds, i want to rip dvds and cds
[05:32] <wind> and uh... firefox and it's all sorts of functionality
[05:32] <tk> xine should work for that... i believe
[05:32] <tk> firefox is mozilla-firefox
[05:32] <wind> i don't want to download things like easyubuntu or automatix
[05:32] <wind> i want to download them one at a time
[05:32] <wind> i'm trying to learn :O
[05:32] <tk> you dont want to use adept? you mean?
[05:32] <kristyon> sudo sh /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[05:32] <trappist> wind: sudo sh /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[05:33] <trappist> what kristyon said.
[05:33] <wind> that's it?
[05:33] <kristyon> thats just to play encrypted dvds
[05:33] <kristyon> and xine would help
[05:33] <trappist> that's what you need to be able to decrypt commercial dvds.  if you want to rip, you also need ripping software
[05:33] <kristyon> grip
[05:34] <kristyon> or ripit
[05:34] <trappist> grip does videos?
[05:34] <kristyon> no
[05:34] <kristyon> k3b does
[05:34] <trappist> I just use it to make oggs
[05:34] <trappist> but does k3b compress?
[05:34] <kristyon> only the new beta version of k3b does
[05:34] <archdrone> is there a real difference in speed between kubuntu 6.06 amd64 and for i386 on my amd64?
[05:34] <trappist> ossum
[05:34] <kristyon> expect it real soon
[05:34] <kristyon> will compress to mpeg4
[05:34] <trappist> archdrone: yes
[05:35] <archdrone> trappist: thx
[05:35] <trappist> archdrone: but there's a price - there's some 32bit only stuff (like flash and java plugins, w32codecs etc.) that you'll need a 32bit chroot for
[05:35] <kristyon> if you wanna compile it wind then goto www.k3b.org
[05:36] <wind> hm
[05:36] <tk> archdrone: i've used both and notice little difference on my AMD64
[05:37] <tk> but I dont do any heavy compiling or anything I guess
[05:37] <archdrone> trappist: thx for info so i ll google sth about 32bit chroot
[05:37] <trappist> I notice quite a big difference
[05:37] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone
[05:37] <trappist> archdrone: google specifically for debian 32bit chroot - there's a great howto somewhere
[05:37] <tk> still havent gotten into GIMP yet as I still have a windows drive with photoshop that I know how ot use :)
[05:37] <archdrone> tk: me neither so its no use for me i guess
[05:38] <MilhousePunkRock> tk: There is GIMP for Windows too...
[05:38] <Tallia1Kubuntu> what do i have to do to extract  a *.gz file?
[05:38] <tk> MilhousePunkRock: you know now that you say that I recall seeing that on the Kubuntu CD i think...
[05:38] <trappist> archdrone: I notice that apps start up a lot faster, and cpu-intensive stuff (like thumbnailing for image viewers) is a lot faster
[05:38] <kristyon> why does everyone rave about photoshop? how many ppl actually know how to use it !!!
[05:38] <djclue917> Tallia1Kubuntu: use Ark.
[05:38] <Tallia1Kubuntu> djclue917: need command line
[05:38] <trappist> Tallia1Kubuntu: if it's a .gz, gunzip.  if it's a .tar.gz, tar zxf filename.tar.gz
[05:38] <djclue917> oh ok.
[05:38] <kristyon> gzip
[05:39] <MilhousePunkRock> if you know how to use P$, you know how to use Gimp as well...
[05:39] <kristyon> gzip -xfgz filename
[05:39] <trappist> MilhousePunkRock: the interfaces are very different
[05:39] <kristyon> or gzip --help
[05:39] <archdrone> trappist: i ll try
[05:39] <trappist> or gunzip
[05:39] <trappist> or even zcat file.gz > newfile
[05:40] <MilhousePunkRock> trappist: Only at the first few looks I assume, since Gimp appears to be a little weird with all those windows... But the functions are the same
[05:41] <jott> MilhousePunkRock: like cmyk support? ;)
[05:41] <kristyon> who actually needs it?
[05:41] <kristyon> printers
[05:42] <kristyon> whats the k mean in cmyk?
[05:42] <hw> viva las vegas ;}
[05:42] <Healot> blac(K)
[05:42] <jott> key
[05:42] <trappist> I'm not a big gimp guy, but I'm 92% sure it supports cmyk
[05:43] <djclue917> trappist: no it doesn't
[05:43] <jott> trappist: then go for 8%
[05:43] <trappist> gotcha :)
[05:43] <trappist> well only weirdos use it anyway.  so there.
[05:43] <jott> use krita it has cmyk support and photoshop like ui (although still alot of bugs :( )
[05:43] <djclue917> trappist: but there's a plugin i believe..
[05:43] <wind> what is a good photo editing software?
[05:43] <djclue917> http://www.blackfiveservices.co.uk/separate.shtml
[05:44] <wind> its like photoshop
[05:44] <wind> i forgot the name
[05:44] <trappist> wind: gimp.
[05:44] <jott> wind: krita
[05:44] <wind> k
[05:44] <djclue917> jott: krita is pretty much very young and still lacks most of the features in the GIMP. it shows great potential though...
[05:44] <jott> hehe "A plugin providing rudimentary CMYK support for The GIMP"
[05:45] <jott> djclue917: depends on what features you actually need...
[05:45] <trappist> now if only somebody would write a killer image viewing program.  one that thumbnails quickly, has lotsa nice management features and doesn't leak like a sieve (or like gimv)
[05:45] <jott> but yes its not really mature
[05:45] <kristyon> you tried gimp 2.2 ? it appears to have cmyk support
[05:45] <jott> trappist: digikam ;)
[05:46] <djclue917> jott: well yeah, but as far as photo editing is concerned, GIMP is still far more superior than Krita.
[05:46] <trappist> jott: I wasn't looking for one that supports cameras, but if it's good generically I'll check it out
[05:46] <trappist> jott: I use gimv, but it leaks so badly I have to restart X after I use it for a while
[05:46] <trappist> pornview looks promising but it crashes constantly
[05:47] <djclue917> trappist: hmm.. that's odd. I've never experienced that before with GIMP...
[05:47] <jott> trappist: digikam is quite good for managing/sorting/tagging images
[05:47] <trappist> djclue917: gimv, not gimp :)
[05:47] <trappist> jott: I'll take a look then, thanks
[05:47] <djclue917> ah ok.
[05:48] <djclue917> trappist: sorry.. :D i thought that was a type or something. haha
[05:48] <kristyon> fspot
[05:48] <jott> trappist: plus it has some basic image filters like red eye removal..
[05:48] <trappist> djclue917: you mean a typo? ;)
[05:48] <djclue917> oh yeah. that's a typo. typo. haha
[05:48] <trappist> jott: nice - how about auto-rename, if I try to put a bunch of files in the same directory that have the same filename?
[05:49] <djclue917> jott: what's that software again? :)
[05:49] <jott> djclue917: digikam?
[05:49] <trappist> or comparing the two files if they have the same name, to see if they're duplicate files
[05:49] <djclue917> jott: oh.. i
[05:49] <jott> trappist: uhm not sure about this..
[05:49] <djclue917> jott: oh.. i've never used digikam before..
[05:49] <trappist> jott: well I'm installing now, so I'll know soon enough :)
[05:49] <jott> trappist: you could go for krename then ;)
[05:50] <trappist> jott: nah, I need it built into my image viewer.  I use rename for other mass-renaming purposes.
[05:50] <trappist> the perl goodness.
[05:51] <jott> trappist: actually digikam supports image comparison by content ;)
[05:51] <jott> trappist: to check for duplicate files
[05:51] <trappist> ooh, yeah I just found that
[05:51] <trappist> gimv has it too
[05:51] <jott> but gimv has this evil g in its name ;)
[05:52] <trappist> I'm specifically looking for, I'm dragging a file into a directory, there's a file there already with that name.  I want to see both files and have an option to auto-rename.
[05:52] <trappist> jott: yeah, that g kinda sucks
[05:53] <trappist> ooh tools -> batch processing -> rename images
[05:53] <trappist> that's nice too
[05:53] <jott> trappist: it should do so
[05:53] <jott> trappist: (this drag and drop thingie)
[05:53] <trappist> now if only I could easily browse to any image-containing directory :/
[05:54] <jott> :p
[05:54] <trappist> it's got kind of an album browser, not a filesystem browser
[05:54] <jott> the album browser is actually a filesystem browser
[05:54] <trappist> but it's pretty sweet.  might be worth conquering the little annoyances.
[05:54] <jott> (so when you move something its moved in the filesystem)
[05:54] <trappist> jott: but how do I browse 'up' from the cwd?
[05:55] <jott> so you need to set the parent dir for your albums :p
[05:55] <trappist> yeah, I don't care for that so much
[05:56] <jott> or symlink them to a common place.. don't know if there is a better way for digikam in handling this
[05:56] <jott> its actually really ment for managing your whole collection
[05:56] <trappist> yeah its purpose is slightly different than the purpose I'm looking for, but it still might be close enough
[05:56] <trappist> it's worth spending a little time to find out
[05:56] <jott> make sure you also have those plugins installed..
[05:57] <trappist> oh?
[05:57] <trappist> oh, found em
[05:57] <jott> kipi-plugins also don't know if digikamimageplugins suggests that..
[05:57] <jott> so you get the "full potential"
[05:58] <kevin> Hola compaeros
[05:58] <kevin> :P
[05:58] <trappist> jott: it wasn't in recommends, but apt-cache search came up with it
[05:59] <jott> trappist: at least it seems to be quite good usability wise as my girlfriend uses it to manage her pictures ;)
[05:59] <trappist> ossum
[06:00] <trappist> well I'll have to give it the real trial at home.  I don't have any massive image collections here at work to test against.
[06:00] <jott> hehe
[06:01] <jott> trappist: and version 0.9.0-beta1 is also out so you may look at the changelog before you complain ;)
[06:01] <niels> lo trappist, can u help me with my linux?
[06:02] <niels> or can somebody else help me?:)
[06:02] <jott> * more than 100 bug fixes hehe ;)
[06:02] <jott> sounds worth a try ;)
[06:03] <niels> hzeheh:)
[06:04] <niels> eum the problem is that I have a vertical black line(+-1cm ) on my screen in linux but not in windows
[06:05] <niels> any solutions jott?:)
[06:06] <trappist> niels: in the middle of the screen? left? right?
[06:06] <maltaethiron> thats an odd problem niels
[06:06] <niels> sry forgot to tell that
[06:06] <niels> on the left
[06:06] <niels> totally left
[06:06] <niels> that's a what problem maltaethiron?:)
[06:06] <jott> tft?
[06:06] <niels> jes tft
[06:06] <niels> 17"
[06:06] <niels> sry but i'm a noob@linux;)
[06:06] <trappist> niels: nvidia card?
[06:07] <wind> how do i get a pcmcia slot mounted (it's a sd memory card reader)
[06:07] <niels> jes nvidia
[06:07] <niels> geforce fx520
[06:07] <niels> *5200
[06:08] <jott> do you use the native resolution of your tft in X?
[06:08] <niels> solutions?
[06:08] <jott> on other hint would be: press the autosync/autosettings button on your tft ;)
[06:08] <jott> an
[06:08] <niels> no... but i reinstalled linux cos there was a problem with my hd
[06:09] <niels> and therefore i did something in x what set up my video card
[06:09] <trappist> NeoFax: egrep 'Driver.+nv' /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:09] <niels> cos now he doesn't even recognizes my card
[06:09] <niels> do I have to type that in kons?
[06:09] <trappist> yes
[06:09] <trappist> and tell me what it says
[06:09] <trappist> if it's "nv" or "nvidia"
[06:11] <trappist> niels: my video is the wrong size unless I use the nvidia driver
[06:11] <niels> it says nothing
[06:11] <trappist> niels: well that's no good!
[06:11] <trappist> niels: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:11] <niels> do I have to type that neofax 2?
[06:11] <trappist> I don't know what neofax is
[06:11] <niels> you typed that
[06:12] <trappist> huh
[06:12] <niels> but np, that is the command i was looking 4
[06:12] <niels> that's the way i did it yesterday 2
[06:12] <niels> *yesterdag->last time
[06:12] <niels>  <trappist> NeoFax: egrep 'Driver.+nv' /etc/X11/xorg.c
[06:12] <niels> you typed that
[06:12] <trappist> niels: OH!  sorry :) no, that was supposed to look like: niels: egrep 'Driver.+nv' /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:13] <niels> i thought so:)
[06:13] <niels> but np,  you helped me a lot!
[06:13] <Tarandus> Hello, I have dpkg --forced a Debian's dosemu package.  Now every time I try to install anything, it stops at the dosemu's missing dependencies, which include a Debian libc6 version.  How could I make it "accept" the forced dosemu package and go on?
[06:14] <kristyon> use dosbox instead?
[06:14] <niels> k i did everything
[06:14] <Tarandus> kristyon: Tried and it does not work
[06:14] <niels> but the problem is: last time when I wanted to load linux(the kernel was updated) i couldn't load my updated version
[06:14] <niels> how come?
[06:14] <kristyon> what you trying to use it for?
[06:14] <Tarandus> kristyon: DOS games mostly
[06:15] <trappist> Tarandus: you don't.  if you need debian's version for some reason, you need to rebuild it.  the libc6 dependency isn't a joke.
[06:15] <Tarandus> kristyon: It wastes quite much performance, whatever it does
[06:15] <kristyon> dosbox worked for me for stealth bomber f117a
[06:15] <kristyon> you need perforance for dos?
[06:15] <Tarandus> trappist: But the forced dosemu package works perfectly, whereas the Ubuntu's dosemu is broken
[06:15] <Tarandus> kristyon: Somehow dosbox just isn't fast enough
[06:16] <kristyon> seems very strange to me
[06:16] <Tarandus> What kind of machine should it approximate with cycles=3000?  A medium 486?
[06:16] <trappist> Tarandus: the ubuntu version *is* the debian version.  it's synced from debian without changes.
[06:17] <trappist> ditto for dosemu-freedos
[06:17] <Tarandus> trappist: The Ubuntu version is broken.  It has no X support compiled in.  The version in Debian testing has X support.
[06:17] <trappist> oh, debian testing.
[06:17] <Tarandus> trappist: Also, xfonts-dosemu installs 4 empty pcf.gz files
[06:17] <trappist> Tarandus: my advice would be to grab the debian source package and rebuild it
[06:18] <Tarandus> trappist: Any short and easy instructions for that?
[06:18] <kevin> hello , I speak spanis I AM Kubuntu is cool!!
[06:18] <Tarandus> First I must apt-get build-essential?
[06:19] <trappist> Tarandus: add a deb-src line in /etc/apt/sources.list for debian testing.  apt-get update.  apt-get source dosemu.  apt-get build-dep dosemu.  cd to the dosemu directory and debuild or dpkg-buildpackage.
[06:19] <trappist> Tarandus: yes
[06:20] <Tarandus> trappist: Thanks, I'll see how I'll manage
[06:20] <trappist> maltaethiron: please don't do that.
[06:21] <zipper_> Yey, i got linux installed, now i just need to get my wireless network up and running, sigh
[06:21] <ninHer> funny task to accomplish
[06:22] <ninHer> ;-)
[06:22] <maltaethiron> trappist: do what?
[06:22] <marvel> Can anybody help, getting PS printer error from lpr -Pprinter filename; lpr: error - unable to print file: client-error-not-found
[06:22] <maltaethiron> trappist: i clicked return from away in the File menu
[06:22] <Tarandus> Ubuntu has gnome-network-manager and I made it work in my laptop by getting rid of static IP addresses.  Is there a similar tool for KDE and Kubuntu?
[06:23] <trappist> maltaethiron: public away/back messages are a plague on irc
[06:23] <maltaethiron> trappist: sorry, didnt do it on purpose...how do i kill it?
[06:23] <trappist> maltaethiron: depends on your irc client
[06:24] <maltaethiron> trappist: using konversation
[06:24] <trappist> Tarandus: please file a bug on those empty font files.  probably a packaging issue.
[06:24] <zipper_> ninHer, i've been having trouble getting the installer to boot up all day. Changing the boot option 'noacpi' to 'acpi=off' did the trick, thats why i'm sort of happy :)
[06:25] <trappist> err, definitely a packaging issue
[06:25] <ninHer> c'mon with it....it is easy to do
[06:27] <niels> lo everybody:)
[06:27] <niels> here I am agani with another problem:)
[06:27] <zipper_> ninHer, not on an asus a6r laptop... it's the most linux unfriendly laptop i've tried so far
[06:29] <ninHer> patience then, and go for it!
[06:29] <niels> does somebody know how come my music doesn't play? which codecs do I have to download? i downloaded some codecs and still, when i push play it doesn't work:s
[06:29] <zipper_> ninHer, well, that's what i'm doing atm... waiting for driver download to finish
[06:30] <ninHer> ok zipper_ that's right
[06:41] <k2> ?
[06:42] <k2> +m
[06:42] <k2> hee hee
[06:42] <Jucato> ehehe
[06:42] <Jucato> just +quiet
[06:43] <k2> eh?
[06:43] <Tarandus> What is the difference between dpkg-buildpackage and debuild?
[06:44] <k2> What is with the stupid "I'm trying to be trendy so i'm going to spell 'conversation' with a 'K'" bullshit?
[06:45] <k2> Tarandus hates white people
[06:45] <nearfar> but how to get the KDE theme?
[06:46] <k2> shanananananananana
[06:46] <k2> well, IRC isnt as interesting as bash.org makes it out to be :-\
[06:46] <MilhousePunkRock>  Hey abattoir
[06:47] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: hi :)
[06:47] <MilhousePunkRock> I'll be right back, abattoir
[06:47] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: not sure if i'll be there... :P
[06:47] <k2> hey Administrator, lets "chat" *wink*
[06:48] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Good morning
[06:48] <abattoir> hello Hawkwind :)
[06:48] <dell500> does anyone here know how to make a partition onto a 300gb sata usb drive.. i've used cfdisk and qtparted
[06:48] <kristyon> parted
[06:49] <abattoir> Hawkwind: you work on ulteo?
[06:49] <Dr_willis> dell500,  ya may need to rephrase that.
[06:49] <dell500> sorry
[06:49] <Dr_willis> i just used qtparted to partition my sata drives.
[06:49] <Dr_willis> made a ext3 on it. :P
[06:49] <dell500> how do you partition a 300gb usb-sata...
[06:50] <dell500> well it's giving me an error
[06:50] <Dr_willis> the usb drive 'should' show up as a sd## drive.  ie: sda/sdb/sdc or so on.
[06:50] <dell500> ya i know which one it is
[06:50] <dell500> it's /dev/sdc
[06:50] <Dr_willis> if its auto-mounting then that may be an issue.
[06:51] <dell500> so i get to the part where i can so-called format it. it goes into ext3 but won't accually format it
[06:52] <Dr_willis> just parttion it. then format it from the shell - perhaps.
[06:52] <dell500> the error i get is "This is a virtual partition. You cannot alter it: use undo instead."
[06:52] <Dr_willis> you are using that 'apply' button? last i used the gparted tool.. it partitioned, and formated automaticially
[06:52] <dell500> it's working now
[06:52] <dell500> damn
[06:52] <dell500> that was insane
[06:52] <rbman>  argh!  k3b keeps 86'ing my DVD burning project!  I'm using kubuntu to mount and copy data from an NTFS drive to a DVD burner running on the kubuntu system.  I've used the burner before without any problems but now it's giving me crap about "some filenames need to be shortened due to the 103 char restriction.."yadda yadda...is there a way to turn off all restrictions in k3b and MAKE it copy it?
[06:52] <Dr_willis> lol
[06:52] <dell500> i did it last night and it totally didn't do any of this lol
[06:52] <nearfar> anyone using anti-aliased Emacs in kubuntu?
[06:52] <dell500> that's wierd
[06:54] <drbreen_> thats wired
[06:55] <maltaethiron> guys,  i hear automatix is something to stay away from?
[06:56] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: I would recommend not using it.
[06:57] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: Just stick with apt-get from within a terminal
[06:57] <h3sp4wn> maltaethiron: Ideally you should just go thru the restricted formats howto - and which ever binary driver you need
[06:57] <maltaethiron> gotcha, thanks
[06:58] <h3sp4wn> maltaethiron: If you just follow it start to finish it will be fine
[06:58] <dell500> ya, for some reason fat32 doesn't format very well
[06:59] <maltaethiron> h3sp4wn: well ive been having big problems with flashplugin for konqueror
[06:59] <zered> hi everybody
[07:00] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: What makes you think flash isn't working in konqueror ?
[07:00] <h3sp4wn> maltaethiron: Easyubuntu won't hell you with that (not sure about aytomatix other than it will break alot of other stuff
[07:01] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: You are probably trying to view a site that requires flash 8 or 9 which there isn't an 8 or 9 version for Linux, and won't be until after the first of the year
[07:01] <dell500> Dr_willis, did you use ext3?
[07:02] <maltaethiron> uh, what does homestarrunner use?
[07:02] <Dr_willis> I always use ext3
[07:02] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: Probably flash 8
[07:02] <Dr_willis> homestar been around for ages. :P
[07:03] <maltaethiron> hehe
[07:03] <Dr_willis> I like the 'strong bad talking clock' program they have there.
[07:03] <Hawkwind> maltaethiron: 95% of all flash sites now use 8 or higher, which makes it impossible for linux users to view it properly
[07:03] <maltaethiron> ahh ok, so really its pointless to install until 07?
[07:03] <trappist> Hawkwind: I dunno about 95%
[07:03] <aliasfred> maltaethiron: i dont have trouble with flash on linux
[07:04] <aliasfred> Hawkwind: where did you get this 95% number ?
[07:04] <maltaethiron> aliasfred: but do you use firefox or konqueror?
[07:04] <oliver_> good eve out there
[07:04] <kristyon> 88% of statistics are made up on the spot
[07:04] <Hawkwind> trappist: Was an exaggeration as it seems most of them
[07:05] <Dr_willis> http://www.homestarrunner.com/weclomeback.html  works for me
[07:05] <Tarandus> Typing apt-get build-dep dosemu it complains that no available version of debhelper satisfies the requirements
[07:05] <maltaethiron> haha @ kristyon
[07:05] <aliasfred> maltaethiron: firefox but i was refering more to the percent of site viewable on linux that the instalation itself
[07:05] <Tarandus> Should I build new debhelper too?
[07:05] <Tarandus> It in turn needs a package called po4a, which is buildable as it is
[07:06] <Kr4t05> Tarandus: Looks like you're trapped in dependancy hell. ;P
[07:06] <maltaethiron> well aliasfred: i did everything possible to try to install flashplugin-nonfree
[07:06] <Tarandus> Kr4t05: Where are the packages whose sources I have installed?
[07:07] <Tarandus> Kr4t05: I mean, where does it put the sources?
[07:07] <maltaethiron> aliasfred: i enabled multiverse whatevers, and all that fun stuff
[07:07] <oliver_> I think i created another problem: can't sudo anymore: "unable to lookup "Excalibur.MSHEIMNETZ via gethostbyname()"  and need serious help
[07:07] <Kr4t05> Tarandus: usually the directory you run apt-get -b source.
[07:07] <castra> hi all ..been playing today with vmware-player and vmware-workstation and after a while decided to remove both. Workstation removal was simple while vmware-player gives me errors ..need input
[07:07] <Kr4t05> Tarandus: In most cases: ~/
[07:07] <dell500> why doesn't qtparted format in fat32?
[07:08] <aliasfred> hmm i see a LOT of complain about the repository stuff and the matter to configure it
[07:08] <aliasfred> i think ubuntu would gain a lot by making this easier that modifying 'by hand'
[07:08] <aliasfred> or maybe it already exists and i am not aware of it
[07:08] <Dr_willis> dell500,  fat32 has a drive size limition i recall.. how big a hd ya formating in fat32?
[07:11] <guy>    ?
[07:11] <castra> anyone know how to force remove packages from apt ? Tryed -f -m but nothing helps
[07:11] <kristyon> apt-get remove package
[07:11] <aliasfred> guy, english here... or another channel but i dont recognize the langage your are using
[07:12] <h3sp4wn> castra: dpkg --force-help (if you have to - force as little as possible)
[07:12] <castra> looks like hebrew
[07:12] <castra> h3sp4wn: thanks..reading
[07:12] <alex__yo> hello
[07:12] <alex__yo> can somebody help me?
[07:12] <aliasfred> castra: what is the langage 'extension' for hebrew. like .fr or .en
[07:13] <castra> no idea..just recognised signs
[07:13] <aliasfred> ok :) wikipedia then :)
[07:13] <guy> hey, i typed hebrew
[07:13] <aliasfred> !he
[07:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about he - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:13] <kristyon> where is the edgy repo?
[07:13] <guy> :)
[07:13] <insanekane> aliasfred: he, iw
[07:14] <insanekane> aliasfred: http://www.unicode.org/onlinedat/languages.html
[07:14] <kristyon> guy, how?
[07:14] <aliasfred> guy and ubotu doesnt know about an hebrew channel :)
[07:14] <oliver_> Can someone please help me ??
[07:14] <kristyon> what oliver?
[07:14] <oliver_> I think i created another problem: can't sudo anymore: "unable to lookup "Excalibur.MSHEIMNETZ via gethostbyname()"  and need serious help
[07:14] <DaSkreech> oliver_: Speak!
[07:14] <Hawkwind> oliver_: With ?
[07:14] <aliasfred> insanekane:ok i used http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_language
[07:14] <alex__yo> i have a "3 savage4" graficcard with tv out, but i can select the button tv. ubuntu with kde
[07:14] <guy> does anybody from israel here and likes kubuntu?
[07:14] <insanekane> aliasfred: k
[07:14] <DaSkreech> guy: I would guess so :)
[07:15] <guy> LOL
[07:15] <alex__yo> please help me
[07:15] <woodstock_> !
[07:15] <ubotu> I know nothing about ! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:15] <woodstock_> jaja
[07:16] <guy> 
[07:16] <guy>     
[07:16] <guy>   ?
[07:16] <kristyon> alex, reinstall!
[07:16] <castra> guy: please DO NOT USE hebrew letter ..ONLY english ..thank you
[07:16] <Dr_willis> alex__yo,  that made no sence.. you mean you 'CANT' use the tv out button?
[07:17] <Dr_willis> castra,  heh - looked like some math homework to me.
[07:17] <alex__yo> yes
[07:17] <swanfl> is there any way I can change the K menu icon?
[07:17] <alex__yo> its an invidia card
[07:17] <castra> Dr_willis: well ... not far from the truth :D
[07:17] <Dr_willis> alex__yo,  id advise googling for that exact card. If its using the nvidia chipset/drivers. I had to use the twinview settings to enable my tv out.
[07:18] <eeos> i did recompile the kernel today. all that I could get was a kernel panic
[07:18] <alex__yo> what for a card has you
[07:18] <alex__yo> ?
[07:18] <eeos> using the same config file as in the boot sector
[07:18] <eeos> does anyone know why?
[07:18] <Dr_willis> alex__yo,  Nvidia 9800
[07:18] <castra> Dr_willis: trying to remove certain package which was damadged while installed. Ideas how to remove it by force? apt and dpkg can't help me at all
[07:19] <Dr_willis> castra,  theres a --force option.
[07:19] <alex__yo> i have to type install nvidia-glx
[07:19] <lters> dpkg is your friend.
[07:19] <Dr_willis> !nvidia
[07:19] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:19] <castra> Dr_willis: yes ..but its usless
[07:19] <guy> then i try to install resource code pack by compile utility, it writes me what it canwt find module, what should i do?
[07:21] <castra> Dr_willis: maybe I write command wrong..likesudo dpkg --force-remove-essential vmware-player ??? so
[07:21] <eeos> !kernel
[07:21] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[07:22] <oliver_> Hawkwind & DaScreetch: any ideas
[07:23] <Dr_willis> castra,  that looks TOTALLY wrong to me.
[07:23] <Dr_willis> !apt-get
[07:23] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[07:23] <Dr_willis> castra,  or ya pasted it wrong. :P
[07:23] <oliver_> I read something about activating the root account, but doesn't say how
[07:23] <Dr_willis> oliver_,  you dont need to. :P
[07:23] <castra> Dr_willis: sudo dpkg --force-remove-essential vmware-player ?? if wrong please advise
[07:24] <guy> then i try to install resource code pack by compile utility, it writes me what it canwt find module, what should i do?
[07:24] <Dr_willis> castra,  i cant recall ever seeing --force-remove-essential  ( perhaps its an option ive never used)
[07:24] <castra> Dr_willis: which command do you use when you can't remove packages with apt-get remove
[07:25] <lters> # sudo dpkg --force-all <package-name>
[07:25] <Dr_willis> castra,  http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-erros.en.html
[07:26] <castra> lters:
[07:26] <castra> sudo dpkg --force-all vmware-player
[07:26] <castra> dpkg: need an action option
[07:26] <lters> castra: yeah, you need to have the -r there yet
[07:27] <lters> I have not had good sucess with the vmware player via the apt get.
[07:27] <castra> lters: true but still the same error as with apt-get
[07:27] <oliver_> Dr. Willis":     I think i created another problem: can't sudo anymore: "unable to lookup "Excalibur.MSHEIMNETZ via gethostbyname()"  and need serious help
[07:27] <eeos> !linux-source
[07:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about linux-source - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:27] <swanfl> is there any way I can change the K menu icon?
[07:27] <kristyon> just get the latest vmware build from their site
[07:27] <lters> swanfl: yes. it is part of the kde theme.
[07:28] <zipper__> i'm trying to install the bcm43xx-firmware package through apt-get, but i'm getting an error when doing an 'apt-get update' : wget -c http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/pool/dapper-cafuego/bcm43xx/bcm43xx-firmware_1.3-1ubuntu1_all.deb
[07:28] <zipper__> sorry, wrong paste
[07:28] <zipper__> i'm trying to install the bcm43xx-firmware package through apt-get, but i'm getting an error when doing an 'apt-get update' : W: GPG error: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net dapper-cafuego Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available:
[07:28] <zipper__> thats the right one
[07:29] <gibsonsg> how do i get realplayer to work? i dl it from their site
[07:29] <gibsonsg> it looks like i installed it..do i need to get a package too or something
[07:30] <maltaethiron> lters: how do i go about changing the theme?
[07:30] <jared> zipper... You might want to grab the public key and inport it.
[07:30] <gibsonsg> does helix player play RA files?
[07:30] <lters> maltaethiron: it is in the kde control center.
[07:31] <maltaethiron> lters: ok and how so i get there?
[07:31] <maltaethiron> do*
[07:31] <lters> start/settings...
[07:31] <jared> zipper::: run this : wget http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/969F3F57.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[07:31] <DaSkreech> !gr
[07:31] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr   
[07:33] <castra> is pastebin down?
[07:33] <swanfl> lters, thanks
[07:33] <swanfl> that helped
[07:33] <swanfl> didn't get what I wanted, but it helped ;)
[07:34] <jared> zipper_?
[07:34] <zipper_> jared, sorry, solved it, was being stupid
[07:34] <jared> ah
[07:34] <jared> k
[07:34] <zipper_> was fixing it, thats why i didnt see your message
[07:35] <lters> swanfl: also, you can see the icons /usr/share/icons/  here, by theme. ie: find /usr/share/icons/ | grep kmenu
[07:35] <jared> np wanted to be sure you were being helped
[07:36] <Surger> Anybody know how to stop the KDE configurator from running every time I start KDE?
[07:36] <oliver_> i am back and found the solution for "sudo" problem
[07:37] <DaSkreech> Whee Arts Just crashed
[07:37] <lhds>  i have made an icon on the desktop that runs the command :  sox -c 2 -s -w -r 32000 -t ossdsp /dev/dsp2 -t ossdsp /dev/dsp how to stop the command when i want? what am i supposed to do or type?
[07:38] <lters> lhds: sudo pkill -9 sox
[07:38] <oliver_> so how can i change the hostname to a different one ?? (Kubuntu Dapper)
[07:38] <aliasfred> lhds: run it in a terminal and do ctrl-c in the terminal to stop it
[07:39] <swanfl> now that I have had help with changing the theme, where can I get new themes and how do I install them?
[07:39] <lhds> it says that /dev/dsp1 is busy
[07:39] <lhds>  sudo pkill -9 sox didnt do a thing
[07:40] <oliver_> so how can i change the hostname to a different one ?? (Kubuntu Dapper)
[07:41] <oldwulf> lhds you can't run pkill -9  it doesn't like it
[07:42] <Surger> oliver_: sudo kate /etc/hostname
[07:43] <DaSkreech> oliver_: what was the solution?
[07:43] <Surger> oliver_: And change the one in /etc/hosts as well
[07:44] <oliver_> Surger: does that change all the related hostname settings, cause that was my problem earlier !!!!!! Cant sudo anymore
[07:44] <oliver_> DaSkreech: see above
[07:44] <Knightlust> guys, i need your help regarding my genius vivid 4x scanner, I've been spending the whole day trying to configure it. google hasn't helped me. i already installed all instances of sane on adept, anymore suggestions would be helpful. by the way, i;ve tried to use kooka and xsane but to no avail
[07:44] <oliver_> I change hostmae only in /etc/hostname
[07:45] <DaSkreech> oliver_: What kind of setup do you have?
[07:45] <DaSkreech> Sudo should not require a network
[07:45] <Surger> oliver_: http://www.cpqlinux.com/hostname.html
[07:45] <Hawkwind> oliver_: When you globally change the hostname a lot of things stop working so going into telinit1 or rebooting will solve the issue
[07:46] <oliver_> DaSkreech: a second ago i rebooted in SafeMode, edited the /etc/hostname to the state before, and everything works fine again, iam confused
[07:47] <Knightlust> guys, help please
[07:47] <DaSkreech> !sane
[07:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about sane - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:47] <DaSkreech> !scanner
[07:47] <ubotu> Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[07:47] <oliver_> DaSkreech: and i am new to linux/kubuntu, so please bare with me
[07:47] <DaSkreech> Knightlust: Red those see if htey help
[07:47] <DaSkreech> oliver_: I'll keep my clothes on for now
[07:48] <Knightlust> ok, thank you
[07:48] <oliver_> DaSkreech: yepp
[07:48] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: Changing your hostname can break sudo?
[07:48] <DaSkreech> oliver_: Sure no problem. Well try to help you fix your problem and if you want to hang around after that we can explain why it broke
[07:49] <Knightlust> oh yeah, i've read that one, and my scanner isn't listed. any other ideas?
[07:49] <DaSkreech> And google turns up no results for that scanner and linux?
[07:49] <DaSkreech> Knightlust: try searching on http:///www.google.com/linux
[07:49] <oliver_> DaSkreech: it did on my machine: was "Excalibur" chnged to "Excalibur.MSHEIMNETZ" -> broke -> change back -> works again, rebbots in between !!!
[07:50] <oliver_> reboots, sorry
[07:50] <DaSkreech> Ah. Hmm
[07:50] <ubuntu> hello
[07:50] <Knightlust> DaSkreech, i already did, search results didn't help me
[07:50] <DaSkreech> May not be allowed
[07:50] <DaSkreech> Knightlust: About time to start e-mailing the company
[07:51] <aliasfred> indead it is not allowed :)
[07:51] <Knightlust> DaSkreech, google showed results about scanners in linux, but no help for my scanner
[07:51] <DaSkreech> aliasfred: What about inlife?
[07:51] <Knightlust> thank you, will email them then
[07:51] <DaSkreech> Knightlust: Ask in ##linux
[07:51] <oliver_> DaSkreech: worked that way on my FEDORA 5 box
[07:51] <DaSkreech> May get lucky
[07:51] <aliasfred> DaSkreech: what do you mean by 'inlife' ?
[07:51] <Knightlust> ok, thanks
[07:51] <DaSkreech> aliasfred: indead it is not allowed :)
[07:52] <aliasfred> ah ok :) :)
[07:52] <oliver_> DaSkreech: what about /etc/hosts, should that be modified too ??
[07:54] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: I didn't say it could break sudo.  It breaks a lot of things.  It possibly *could* break sudo
[07:55] <oliver_> Hawkwind: be sure it does, maybe /etc/hosts has to be changed accordingly
[07:56] <oliver_> Hawkwind: reason i changed hostname, was to be the same than a Laptop->Samba->Linux setup, but i just noticed, it works withput the.MESHEIMNETZ as well
[07:56] <Tarandus> My wild dependency hell is coming soon to an end
[07:58] <oliver_> ok, have to leave, s.o els needs the machine, thx for th help anyway
[07:59] <oliver_> I THINK I NEED A NEW KEYBOARD :-)
[08:00] <DaSkreech> oliver_: What are you trying to do?
[08:00] <DaSkreech> Tarandus: Apt-get :)
[08:01] <Tarandus> DaSkreech: I needed dosemu from Debian's testing
[08:02] <Tarandus> DaSkreech: The Dapper multiverse's dosemu package is broken, and I had to compile some dozen packages until I was finally able to compile and install the dosemu I needed
[08:02] <swanfl> gtg
[08:02] <swanfl> thanks for all the help
[08:03] <DaSkreech> Hmm no sound
[08:03] <Polly_Morf> Anyone know a good program for synchronizing two folders, so that I only copy the new things?
[08:03] <DaSkreech> rsync
[08:04] <Polly_Morf> Thanks
[08:06] <Polly_Morf> DaSkreech: If I have a file in the folder im syncing to, that does not exist in the sync-from dir, will it be removed?
[08:07] <DaSkreech> I think that you can set it to do that
[08:07] <Polly_Morf> well ,i dont wnt it to, but i guess that its qite configurable :D
[08:08] <Surger> I'm sure I saw a package manager with the packages listed in catagories but I can't seem to find it now. I thought it was adept but it looks different.
[08:08] <Polly_Morf> synaptic?
[08:08] <ranunculoid> Where can I find out how to use Lame from the command line? I want to convert some flacs but I dont know what to type.
[08:08] <Surger> Polly_Morf: Nope - it was all pretty icons. That expanded and showed apps under each catagory.
[08:09] <kristyon> lame --help
[08:09] <ranunculoid> thanks
[08:09] <Polly_Morf> or man lame
[08:10] <kristyon> lame --help is more simple to start with
[08:10] <DaSkreech> Surger: Try Add Remove programs from the kMenu
[08:10] <Surger> DaSkreech: Ah! That's the one. Thanks :)
[08:12] <jarska> hi
[08:13] <jarska> Could someone tell me, how to open .bin files?
[08:13] <DaSkreech> jarska: Where did you get it from?
[08:13] <Surger> jarska: You execute them
[08:14] <Surger> sudo sh <binfile>
[08:14] <jarska> I downloaded it from java.sun.com
[08:14] <Surger> sudo sh jdk-blah-blah.bin
[08:14] <jarska> I a beginner with linux, so could u help me?
[08:14] <DaSkreech> jarska: The instructions are on the site :)
[08:15] <DaSkreech> jarska: Reading helps a lot with Linux ;-)
[08:15] <jarska> ty
[08:16] <herve> hi from a french guy
[08:16] <herve> i need some help with amarok
[08:16] <DaSkreech> herve: Yo from a regular joe
[08:17] <kristyon> anyone have the arts demon crash when using guarddog?
[08:17] <DaSkreech> kristyon: I just had it crash for no reason
[08:17] <herve> i have no sound with amarok with xine engine but kaffeine is working with xine
[08:17] <Polly_Morf> kristyon: That was a really really strange problem.
[08:18] <herve> how can i change the amarok engine?
[08:18] <Polly_Morf> in amarok settings
[08:18] <kristyon> anyone managed to get jahshaka working? soooooo many dependencise
[08:18] <herve> i want but how?
[08:19] <kristyon> no fix for artsd crash then?
[08:19] <Cavallo> where winecfg is located when I inwtall wine ?
[08:19] <SeanTater> kristyon: crashed for me too
[08:19] <herve> i want to donwload arts but can't fine it
[08:19] <trappist> artsd is for girls
[08:19] <SeanTater> kristyon: I still do not know a fix for it
[08:20] <SeanTater> trappist: that's why we're moving to phonon
[08:20] <trappist> life is a lot easier when your sound card does hardware mixing and you don't need something like arts
[08:20] <herve> is there something else except amarok to listen radio on the net
[08:20] <SeanTater> herve: try noatun
[08:21] <trappist> SeanTater: me too, but I turn it off and use an audigy
[08:21] <herve> thanks i leave and trys....ee you
[08:22] <ranunculoid> kristyon: lame ain't playing nicely. I think it needs the flacs to be decompressed to wavs first, is there any way to do that fro the command line
[08:22] <trappist> SeanTater: decent pc speakers are surprisingly cheap
[08:22] <norbert> hi there, i am very new to linux. i want to remove a directory (/home/norbert/.wine) i tried the command "rm .wine" but that doesen't work
[08:22] <kristyon> flac-tools or something?
[08:22] <trappist> norbert: rm -rf
[08:22] <SeanTater> ranunculoid: why not try ogg?
[08:22] <lohith> hi any one if i can install oracle 91 with this kubuntu 6.06
[08:22] <kristyon> transcode with also do it
[08:22] <trappist> norbert: where 'r' means recursive and 'f' means force
[08:23] <SeanTater> ranunculoid: although I don't think that would solve a flac decoding problem.
[08:23] <DaSkreech> herve: You get no sound for anyting from amarok?
[08:23] <ranunculoid> SeanTater: OK, anything but FLAC:)
[08:23] <norbert> thanks
[08:23] <ranunculoid> SeanTater: Only Amarok cant handle FLAC, I can decode them with any other audio app
[08:23] <trappist> norbert: `man rm` for more fun
[08:23] <DaSkreech> lohith: You should be able to
[08:24] <SeanTater> trappist: decent? Where I am, they have $3 on one shelf and $120-300 on the next. no middle ground..
[08:24] <TheGateKeeper> norbert: http://www.ss64.com/bash/
[08:24] <trappist> lohith: it can be done, but it won't 'just work' out of the box, because it checks to see if you're running its favorite distro, and gets mad if you're not
[08:24] <yohanooog> does anyone have problems opening files from beagle searches?
[08:24] <lohith> oki thanks daskreech, but do u know i have all the packeges required such as SQL/PL other server archetechuter
[08:24] <SeanTater> ranunculoid: I think lame requires wav -- at least I thought it did -- I'm wondering.
[08:24] <trappist> SeanTater: I paid $70 at fry's for speakers that I use to play music for the whole house
[08:25] <trappist> and they sound terrific
[08:25] <Knightlust> DaSkreech, i was able to make my genius scanner to work, thank you for your help
[08:25] <SeanTater> trappist: ? wireless or did you we-wire your house?
[08:25] <DaSkreech> Knightlust: What did you do?
[08:25] <SeanTater> trappist: /re-wire/
[08:25] <Knightlust> thank you everyone for your help
[08:25] <Knightlust> i looked for the firmware and saved it on the sane dir
[08:25] <Knightlust> thanks
[08:25] <trappist> SeanTater: the point is that even for that price, they sit on the computer desk in the office and are still good enough to play for the whole house
[08:26] <SeanTater> trappist: okay
[08:26] <ranunculoid> SeanTater: Yeah it does, that's why I'm asking for a CLI app that can decode FLACs to WAVs
[08:26] <DaSkreech> Knightlust: Well done :)
[08:26] <trappist> SeanTater: mine are logitech - I forget the model, but I'm extremely happy with them
[08:27] <DaSkreech> trappist: Logitech rock!
[08:27] <zipper> On my laptop there is a synaptic touch pad. On its right side it has a scrolling function, however, this does not work properly. Anyone know what i should look for? Already installed ksynaptics, couldnt configure it from that. According to the wiki, it's supposed to be fixed by changing the settings for the synaptics driver, but it doesnt tell how.
[08:28] <trappist> zipper: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xfree86-driver-synaptics
[08:28] <Knightlust> ubotu: almost forgot to say thank you, but Thanks
[08:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about almost forgot to say thank you, but Thanks - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:28] <trappist> Knightlust: ubotu is a bot
[08:29] <zipper> trappist, i'll give it a go
[08:29] <Knightlust> ohhh, hehehe!
[08:30] <ranunculoid> SeanTater: oggenc-aotuv451 is working quite nicely :-D
[08:30] <zipper> trappist, didnt do anything. I wasnt asked a single question or anything.
[08:30] <DaSkreech> Knightlust: It appreciates the sentiment anyway :)
[08:30] <edwin> Does Kubuntu come with xgl?
[08:30] <Knightlust> :)
[08:30] <DaSkreech> !xgl > edwin
[08:30] <trappist> zipper: do you have ksynaptics
[08:30] <lohith> hi every one
[08:30] <zipper> trappist, yes
[08:31] <edwin> Is suse linux enterprise desktop open source?
[08:31] <trappist> zipper: have you run it?
[08:31] <Polly_Morf> DaSkreech: about syncing. Read a tutorial about rsync, and it seemed fine. Then I saw that my favourite filemanager, krusader, does the same. Stupid me :D
[08:31] <ranunculoid> edwin: yes
[08:31] <zipper> trappist, it's running right now. I can only enable/disable double tapping with ksynaptics
[08:32] <DaSkreech> ranunculoid: The Enterprise is opensource?
[08:32] <DaSkreech> Polly_Morf: Ha ha :)
[08:33] <TheGateKeeper> Polly_Morf: do you use rsync / krusader to keep backups?
[08:33] <ceillo>  hi, any one know i can install oracle 9i on kubuntu and do i need any packeges and  addition server archetecure with  kubuntu
[08:33] <trappist> zipper: have you tried installing xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[08:33] <zipper> trappist, thats the one i tried to dpkg-reconfigure, so yes, it's installed
[08:34] <Polly_Morf> TheGateKeeper: well, in a way. Mostly just to sync my portable HD music collection with my computer. The portable gets additions sometimes" on the field"
[08:35] <Polly_Morf> TheGateKeeper: is there a problem doing that?
[08:35] <trappist> zipper: ah, `man synaptics` has some helpful info
[08:35] <TheGateKeeper> Polly_Morf: ok you just got me thinking :-)
[08:35] <trappist> zipper: it lists some driver config directives for xorg.conf
[08:36] <TheGateKeeper> Polly_Morf: no not that I know of :-)
[08:36] <Polly_Morf> TheGateKeeper: Now im curious. What did you think? It's really a kind of backup, but still not
[08:37] <zipper> trappist, thanks, i'll look into it
[08:37] <alex__yo> how to install beep-media-player in kubuntu dapper? i hav installed yesterday kubuntu! how i have to edit sources.list
[08:40] <DaSkreech> Ahh why dont I have sound :-P
[08:40] <TheGateKeeper> Polly_Morf: I have used tar to make a backup of my system and burnt that to DVD and when you said krusader (which I don't have installed at the moment but may be I should) uses rsync, it got me thinking about a different way of doing backups, and may be even having incremental backups
[08:40] <TheGateKeeper> Polly_Morf: this what I have used in the past: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81311&highlight=HOWTO%3A+backup
[08:41] <trappist> TheGateKeeper: yeah rsync is great for backups.  especially incremental backups.
[08:41] <Polly_Morf> TheGateKeeper: It does not use rsync, but it has syyncing capabilities
[08:41] <trappist> TheGateKeeper: it's also very efficient - it just transfers compressed diffs of what needs changing
[08:42] <TheGateKeeper> trappist: Polly_Morf thanx guys :-) food for thought!
[08:44] <TheGateKeeper> alex__yo: a good way to modify your sources.list: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories
[08:47] <DaSkreech> lnxkde: HEy!
[08:50] <DaSkreech> ok So Midi Works but not PCM type sounds
[08:54] <gibsonsg> how do i install a deb package that i dl
[08:55] <angelus> Ciao a tutti!
[08:55] <aarohi> i have a working installed copy of ubuntu and i have a kubuntu installation cd. is there a way i can add kubuntu to my ubuntu installation through this cd?
[08:55] <angelus> Ci sono italiani?
[08:55] <trappist> aarohi: yeah, add it to your sources.list and say 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[08:56] <trappist> angelus: try #ubuntu-it or #kubuntu-it
[08:56] <aarohi> how do i add the CD to my sources list trappist ?
[08:56] <angelus> Thanks trappist! :)
[08:56] <trappist> aarohi: I don't know :)  I've never added a cd.  I use internet repositories
[08:57] <aarohi> i need to restart into ubuntu trappist .. i'm on the windows installation
[08:57] <aarohi> brb
[09:05] <jarska> hi guys
[09:05] <Hawkwind> trappist: For future references, apt-cdrom is what he would have wanted to look into :)
[09:05] <trappist> Hawkwind: thanks :)
[09:05] <jarska> could u tell me how to create folders, because this says that I have no permisson to create them
[09:05] <Hawkwind> jarska: mkdir is the command from a terminal
[09:06] <jarska> but still it says i have no permission
[09:06] <Hawkwind> jarska: Depending on where you are trying to create them, you might have to use sudo mkdir <dir>
[09:10] <evert> exit
[09:13] <Miko_> Hi, I need help with my thinkpad notebook. im a german linux beginner
[09:13] <DaSkreech> What do you need help to do?
[09:14] <Miko_> The system only sees 1 processor. i wanted to make a new kernel but it didnt work. at startup there comes a kernel panic
[09:14] <Miko_> Its a R60
[09:15] <Miko_> Has anyone a list of kernelmodules which i must compile in?
[09:15] <evert> #kubuntu-offtopic
[09:15] <evert> exit
[09:16] <Miko_> and i need a player which can play mms streams
[09:16] <Miko_> anyone knows one?
[09:16] <Miko_> on windows vlc does do it but my friend seid on linux vlc hasnt got the codec for wmv
[09:16] <Miko_> -do ^^
[09:17] <h3sp4wn> Miko_: The easies way to start is by copying the config of the running kernel from /boot (but 2.6.17 won't work easily on dapper - try 2.6.16 first
[09:17] <Miko_> is there the config? wait i will look
[09:18] <aarohi> Miko_, for wmv codecs you will need a package called w32codecs or something... more about it is given in the FAQs on the site
[09:19] <Miko_> okay thanks. i will search after it
[09:19] <heras> w32codecs won't work for mms
[09:19] <_uwo> hi all - how do i find out what is blocking my sound device?
[09:20] <aarohi> heras, he needs to play wmv files, although i'm not too sure about the mms protocol/filetyle
[09:20] <aarohi> filetype*
[09:20] <heras> and for a dual core you could just install linux-***-smp. *** could be 386, 686, or whatever you need
[09:20] <Tarandus> _uwo: Most often it is Arts, and it helps to decrease the timeout from kcontrol
[09:20] <Tarandus> _uwo: Other than that, I have no idea, but I've personally had trouble with Arts
[09:21] <Miko_> heras what do you mean?
[09:21] <DaSkreech> Miko_: Can you open adept?
[09:21] <heras> aarohi: I installed all I could think of and never got mms to work
[09:21] <Miko_> adept? what is it
[09:21] <Miko_> i cant install gcc ... shit
[09:22] <aarohi> I see heras
[09:22] <Miko_> Die folgenden Pakete haben nichterfllte Abhngigkeiten:
[09:22] <Miko_>   gcc: Hngt ab: cpp (>= 4:4.0.1-3) soll aber nicht installiert werden
[09:22] <Miko_>        Hngt ab: gcc-4.0 (>= 4.0.1-2) soll aber nicht installiert werden
[09:22] <Miko_> E: Kaputte Pakete
[09:23] <Miko_> what means this?
[09:23] <Miko_> i cant install the packates which are shown there
[09:23] <heras> mms is some streaming protocol, aarohi
[09:23] <Miko_> but gcc needs them
[09:23] <heras> ?
[09:23] <aliasfred> it mean you speak german :)
[09:23] <aarohi> I'm aware of that heras
[09:23] <aarohi> it is
[09:23] <Miko_> yes im a german linux beginner ;-)
[09:24] <Miko_> i have experience with linux servers but not with linux desktops and notebooks
[09:24] <aliasfred> !build
[09:24] <heras> aarohi, I meant that as a question, sorry :). Do you know to get it to work?
[09:24] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:24] <aliasfred> Miko_: the ubotu message is for you
[09:24] <Miko_> yes thx
[09:24] <Miko_> i will take a view at it
[09:24] <aarohi> i haven't tried looking for anything to get mms to work on linux yet heras. but i think there's a slight chance the wmv package might contain something. try looking around vlc too. not quite sure though
[09:25] <Miko_> xine and mplayer seems to have the abbility to play mms streams. but mplayer doesnt work by me and xine dont plays them
[09:25] <heras> aarohi: Thanks, I'll look into it some more :)
[09:25] <aarohi> i'm trying to get kubuntu to be installed on an already existing ubuntu installation. how do i add the cd as a source repository and proceed with the installation. can anybody help?
[09:25] <|lostbyte|> Hi guys :)
[09:25] <aarohi> heras, you're welcome :)
[09:26] <Miko_> aarohi i think apt-cdrom(s) will help
[09:26] <Dromen> aarohi: dont u just add kubuntu_desktop from synaptic?
[09:26] <Miko_> but im not sure
[09:27] <aarohi> Dromen, if i simply add it it will download the packages from the internet, however, i do have the kubuntu CD with me to install them from
[09:27] <aarohi> I'm looking for a way to set the CD up as a source repository
[09:27] <Dromen> oh right
[09:27] <Dromen> sounds like suse
[09:27] <Miko_> does anybody know why i cant install gcc? it says broken package
[09:27] <DaSkreech> !w32codecs > Miko_
[09:27] <Dromen> not sure
[09:27] <Miko_> what can i do?
[09:27] <Miko_> !w32codecs
[09:27] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:28] <trappist> Miko_: try sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:28] <aarohi> Miko_, listen to trappist
[09:28] <aarohi> works
[09:28] <DaSkreech> Argh. How do I get my sound back>
[09:28] <DaSkreech> ?
[09:29] <Miko_> apt-get install build-essential // it doesn't work. it says broken package again and it needs g++ and gcc
[09:31] <darekdmp> jest polski kanal kubuntu????????
[09:31] <darekdmp> halo
[09:32] <|lostbyte|> darekdmp, which language ?
[09:33] <Miko_> are there any german speaking people?
[09:33] <Miko_> OH YEAH now it works
[09:33] <Miko_> my sources.list was broken
[09:33] <darekdmp> polish  .de best
[09:33] <lhds> how to know what version of x.org am i running please?
[09:34] <|lostbyte|> lhds,  X -version
[09:34] <gr33npho3nix> hey guys so i just switched to kde but can't find a standby or hibernate button
[09:34] <darekdmp> jest polski kanal kubuntu????????
[09:34] <lhds> thanx
[09:35] <gr33npho3nix> anybody know where it is
[09:35] <Miko_> How i can program my buttons on the keyboard like "Windows-Button" etc.
[09:36] <\\Neo> hi, i just made a fresh install of kubuntu and im missing the System -> Administration folder
[09:36] <\\Neo> anyone knows how to get it?
[09:37] <Miko_> does anyone know?
[09:37] <RogueX> Hello everyone...
[09:37] <|lostbyte|> Miko_, http://freshmeat.net/projects/hotkeys/
[09:37] <Miko_> thx
[09:37] <Miko_> lostbyte
[09:38] <RogueX> Can anyone tell me how to play a XviD .avi file?
[09:38] <|lostbyte|> RogueX, mplayer
[09:38] <Miko_> install vlc RogueX
[09:38] <DaSkreech> !pl
[09:38] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:39] <RogueX> |lostbyte|: Mplayer just flashs little squares and doenst play
[09:39] <stephan2> Can anyone tell me how zimbra install from source?
[09:39] <RogueX> VLC plays sound but no picture
[09:39] <Miko_> try viedeo lan player or sine
[09:39] <Miko_> xine
[09:40] <Miko_> xine can plays xvid
[09:40] <\\Neo> whats the manual command for gui-based network configuration?
[09:40] <DaSkreech> stephan2: I recall there being a thread on the Zimbra forums
[09:40] <aliasfred> !restricted
[09:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:40] <|lostbyte|> RogueX, sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[09:40] <RogueX> Miko_: xine?  I have xine engines installed for stuff like Mplayer.......
[09:40] <Miko_> it didnt work lostbyte
[09:41] <|lostbyte|> \\Neo, ifconfig.
[09:41] <aliasfred> the last ubotu message explains how to play propriatary format like xvid
[09:41] <RogueX> |lostbyte|: I have w32codecs installed
[09:41] <|lostbyte|> RogueX, Looks like you need the ropos.
[09:41] <|lostbyte|> repos.
[09:41] <|lostbyte|> oh.
[09:41] <Bearcat> !seen foot
[09:41] <ubotu> foot is on IRC right now!
[09:41] <|lostbyte|> RogueX, Does this happen to all your avi vidoes. ?
[09:41] <KaiHanari> !seen hand
[09:41] <ubotu> I haven't seen hand recently
[09:41] <foot> hello there
[09:42] <Miko_> my sound sounds so metallic what can i do?
[09:42] <Bearcat> foot: How far did you get last night
[09:42] <RogueX> |lostbyte|: No just on XviD files... windows plays finne
[09:42] <Miko_> it doesnt matter if i hear over speakers
[09:42] <foot> Bearcat: all the way to sudo mv ~/ivtv-0.4.0.tar.gz ./
[09:43] <foot> Bearcat: aparently it cat find /ivtv-0.4.0...
[09:43] <Bearcat> it may just be a different version depending on how old this doc is
[09:43] <|lostbyte|> RogueX, works fine here.
[09:43] <foot> Bearcat: are  'tar.gz' files part of the headers?
[09:43] <Miko_> when i type in the command make menuconfig there are comeing lots of failures
[09:43] <Bearcat> foot: i'm loading that page now
[09:44] <Bearcat> foot: in a terminal type "uname -a" and tell me the version number after "linux"
[09:45] <|lostbyte|> RogueX, sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[09:45] <trappist> Bearcat: fyi, uname -r is better for that
[09:45] <foot> Bearcat: 2.6.15-23-386 #1 PREEMPT Tue May 23 13:49:40 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[09:45] <DaSkreech> !seen sabdfl
[09:45] <ubotu> I last saw sabdfl (n=mark@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl) 11m 39s ago, quiting: Read error: 113 (No route to host)
[09:45] <Bearcat> trappist: thak you. I can always use new hints :)
[09:46] <aarohi> i have the kubuntu cd added to the repository list and i started installing the kubuntu-desktop package through synaptic but unfortunately it starts downloading packages from the internet. i cancelled. what do i do to make it install the kubuntu packages from cd? someone help please. :)
[09:46] <trappist> Bearcat: you can even do things like sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) to get the headers for your running kernel
[09:46] <Bearcat> foot: i need to ask a few questions of the fine people in here
[09:46] <foot> be ok
[09:47] <Bearcat> folks, is 2.5.15-23 the latest kernel that ships with kubuntu?
[09:47] <trappist> Bearcat: no.  2.6.15-26
[09:47] <Miko_> why dont you say me this trappist
[09:47] <Miko_> i think this could help me
[09:47] <trappist> Miko_: eh?
[09:47] <DaSkreech> Miko_: You need SMP kernel
[09:48] <Miko_> smP what is it?
[09:48] <trappist> hrm.  permanewb.  sounds awfully pessimistic.
[09:48] <kosh> symetric multi processing it means multiple cpus
[09:48] <Miko_> the ubuntu mirrors are so slow. debianmirrors are faster.
[09:48] <Bearcat> trappist: thank you. We're trying to install Mythtv for foot here, and the ivtv drivers are very  kernel specific. I'm a sourcemage user (like gentoo, but bash and more scratch), so i'm leaning apt-get for the first time here.
[09:48] <Miko_> yes kosh i will compile it in
[09:48] <Miko_> when i can load the config file
[09:49] <DaSkreech> can' I Shift Konqueror tabs around?
[09:49] <DaSkreech> Miko_: SMP allows you to use two CPU's or two cores on a Dual CPU setup
[09:49] <angasule> !compiz
[09:49] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:49] <DaSkreech> Otherwise you will only see one
[09:49] <DaSkreech> !sound
[09:49] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[09:49] <trappist> Bearcat: ivtv + mythtv is one of the hardest things I've ever done on a computer.  of course that was back in the 2.5 kernel days when the ivtv drivers only had experimental support for 2.5.  but the firmware thing is a pain.
[09:49] <Miko_> yes, i know that but i was unable to build my own kernel. now i copied the config from the actually kernel
[09:50] <Bearcat> foot: looking at the ivtv page you want to use version  0.4.6 of the ivtv
[09:50] <kosh> Miko_: what are you trying to compile your own kernel? how many cpus do you have? what are they?
[09:50] <foot> Bearcat: right, I got that
[09:50] <Miko_> its a core duo t2300 with 2 cores
[09:51] <Miko_> but now only one k
[09:51] <Miko_> core is working
[09:51] <kosh> did you install the 64bit version of ubuntu or the 32bit version?
[09:51] <Miko_> but i want to compile my own kernel that the kernelmodules i dont need will not load
[09:51] <Miko_> i installed the kubuntu 32 bit cd version
[09:51] <Miko_> its a 32 bit cpu
[09:51] <kosh> the kernel modules you don't need don't load anyways
[09:51] <Miko_> core duo with 64 bit is not released yet
[09:51] <Bearcat> foot: you want this file http://dl.ivtvdriver.org/ivtv/archive/0.4.x/ivtv-0.4.6.tar.gz
[09:52] <DaSkreech> Everything seems to think there is sound but there isn't :-(
[09:52] <Miko_> kosh the most but not all
[09:52] <DaSkreech> I've restarted teh sound server Switched the engine
[09:52] <TheGateKeeper> foot: you managed to sort out your sources.list?
[09:52] <Miko_> DaSkreech which soundcard do you have?
[09:52] <kosh> miko it makes no difference, it will not run any faster etc but you are going to frustrate yourself a lot
[09:52] <foot> Bearcat:  opening with ark
[09:52] <kosh> I would just install the standard smp kernel   sudo apt-get install linux-686-smp
[09:53] <DaSkreech> Miko_: It was working fine last night
[09:53] <foot> TheGateKeeper: yup, it is linux-headers, not linux headers
[09:53] <Miko_> The friend from my sister is a very good pc specialist. he has got lots of experience. he said if the kernel is smaller it will run faster
[09:53] <DaSkreech> This morning artsd crashed and now I can't hear anything
[09:53] <kosh> you friend does not know what he is talking about
[09:53] <Bearcat> foot: you can browse it with ark, but you might want to just do a "wget  http://dl.ivtvdriver.org/ivtv/archive/0.4.x/ivtv-0.4.6.tar.gz" from the directoy you are working in.
[09:54] <lhds> how can i convert wma to mp3 what is that better program?
[09:54] <Miko_> I'm modifing the existing kernel yet
[09:54] <foot> Bearcat: I have two copies in my home lovely
[09:54] <foot> Bearcat: when I use the find folder option it is disinclined to see them
[09:54] <Miko_> My sound sounds so metallican. what can i do?
[09:55] <kosh> the only way compiling a new kernel will make things run faster is if there is a newer kernel that has fixes for current problems you are having
[09:55] <Miko_> make[2] : *** [scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.o]  Fehler 1
[09:55] <Miko_> make[1] : *** [menuconfig]  Fehler 2
[09:55] <Miko_> make: *** [menuconfig]  Fehler 2
[09:55] <Miko_> i cant start make menuconfig
[09:55] <aliasfred> lhds: many programs can do it, sox, mencoder are the ones on top of my mind
[09:55] <TheGateKeeper> foot: so that was what you where on about :-)
[09:56] <Miko_> even if i installed all packages
[09:56] <kosh> since you have core duo I am going to assume you have a laptop, I have not seen a laptop yet that didn't sound bad
[09:56] <Bearcat> kosh: even, if it takes up less memory? I would think that a kernal built with modules rather then in a monolithic fasion (loading lots of stuff ya don't need) would give you more system resources.
[09:56] <DaSkreech> No Music or sound make daskreech go crazy
[09:56] <foot> TheGateKeeper: keep in mind I have been using linux since tuesday
[09:56] <sredna> Hi
[09:56] <kosh> Bearcat: the default kernels for all dists is completely modular, and it will only load modules that the system detects
[09:56] <Miko_> kosh, but the chipsets are so modern. even the onboard chipsets. i have "kopfhrer" i dont know the english word. it sounds bad with them too
[09:57] <Bearcat> kosh: coolness
[09:57] <TheGateKeeper> might find what I have thrown together here usefull: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/home
[09:57] <sredna> What do I need to do to get kde 3.5.4? An upgrade with adept will only update to 3.5.2-something, my kubuntu version seems to be 6.06-11
[09:57] <Bearcat> foot: you mean it can't find the file you just downloaded? I don't understan what the current issue is
[09:57] <Tarandus> kopfhrer, I guess it's earphones
[09:58] <Miko_> earphones yes
[09:58] <Miko_> it sounds bad on earphones and speakers
[09:58] <Miko_> it sounds metallican
[09:58] <Tarandus> first, see that all you volume settings are not at 100%
[09:58] <Tarandus> put everything to, say, 81%
[09:58] <Tarandus> that is a safe default
[09:59] <Tarandus> at least master volume and PCM volume
[09:59] <Miko_> whats the name of the acutally stable kernel?
[09:59] <Tarandus> those are the ones that count when playing music
[09:59] <Bearcat> By the way, foot i know this is frustrating. I'm proud that you've gotten so far, considering this is one of the hardest things to do on a linux box.
[09:59] <foot> Bearcat: I didnt just download it. In the process of the last three days I now have two copies of in on file, bnut my file search didnt pick them up for some reason. I just remembered where they are. now as to geting them to 'mv' whatever that is I dont know
[09:59] <aliasfred> Tarandus: good suggestion, Miko_ may look at the mic volume, i know my box produce weird sound when the mic volume is up
[09:59] <Miko_> i will try it with the actually smp kernel because i cant run make menuconfig
[09:59] <foot> Bearcat: I am stubborn, and paitent
[09:59] <kosh> does it still sound that bad if you turn the volume down?
[10:00] <Tarandus> Miko_: the other cause is that often modern motherboards and soundcards have only line level outputs
[10:00] <Bearcat> foot: hwo are you finding them? With the "locate" command?
[10:00] <Miko_> where can i watch after my mic valume
[10:00] <Tarandus> Miko_: you need an amplifier there before the headphones or speakers
[10:00] <Bearcat> Miko_: alsamixer in a terminal for one.
[10:00] <|lostbyte|> Miko_, kmix
[10:01] <Miko_> kmix?
[10:01] <Miko_> i will install it
[10:01] <|lostbyte|> Miko_, its already installed.
[10:01] <foot> Bearcat: "find files or folders" from the K comand button, but I remembered where I put them so I found them with konqueror
[10:01] <|lostbyte|> Miko_, Just type in alt + f2 > kmix
[10:01] <reagleBRKLN> kde 3.5.4 is automounting my external devices and even giving them symbolic names in '/media' BUT
[10:01] <|lostbyte|> it will show up in  your pannel.
[10:01] <Miko_> kmix: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[10:01] <Miko_> ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Registering failed!
[10:01] <Miko_> ERROR: Communication problem with kmix, it probably crashed.
[10:01] <reagleBRKLN> its mounting my drive in a SLOW way: /dev/sde1 on /media/usbdisk-1 type ext3 (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,sync,data=ordered)
[10:01] <kosh> Miko_: are you running the gui right now?
[10:02] <Miko_> yes
[10:02] <Miko_> gui is running
[10:02] <Miko_> ahhh
[10:02] <kosh> Miko_: just type alt-f2 kmix
[10:02] <kosh> Miko_: or you can find it on the menu
[10:02] <Bearcat> so foot what mv command are you trying to do? I don't see that in the instructions
[10:02] <Miko_> i must type it in the "ausfhren" window. sorry english word is missing
[10:02] <foot> Bearcat: what is the mv command that I am attempting to do?
[10:02] <Bearcat> foot: yes and why
[10:03] <Miko_> i think sound is okay
[10:03] <Miko_> but before too
[10:03] <foot> http://www.quietglow.com/docs/ubuntumythtv.html
[10:03] <Miko_> im only crazy ^^
[10:03] <Miko_> but why isnt make menuconfig working :-(
[10:03] <kosh> most people are crazy, that does not make you very different
[10:03] <foot> Bearcat: down about halfway sudo mv ~/ivtv-0.4.0.tar.gz ./
[10:03] <Bearcat> foot: also, once we get the ivtv drivers installed there are a few apps to watch tv with. Myv is just one of them, but it also allows you to pause and record tv
[10:03] <kosh> menuconfig is probably missing some of the headers it needs
[10:04] <Bearcat> ahh
[10:04] <Miko_> kosh but im not crazy like the others. i dont bomb states
[10:04] <Miko_> i installed the headers
[10:04] <Bearcat> foot: are you copying in that command exactly? (I'm gonna read up so i can catch up to you
[10:05] <foot> Bearcat: yes, Ill be rb, tow truck arived
[10:05] <Bearcat> cool
[10:05] <nabz> hey, does anyone know how to add a image to grub? like a background
[10:05] <Miko_> what is adept?????
[10:05] <Bearcat> foot: i think i know what the problem might be
[10:05] <nabz> adept is a package manager.
[10:05] <nabz> lets you select packages to install
[10:05] <Bearcat> Miko_: it's a gui interface for apt-get (as far as i can tell)
[10:05] <Miko_> oh i dont like them
[10:05] <reagleBRKLN> so can i configure the automount options?
[10:05] <Miko_> apt-get is the only one which will run on my machine
[10:06] <nabz> how can i change my default media player?
[10:07] <Miko_> okay next question. in my task bar there are showing all task of all 4 desktops. but i want that there are only shown the one of the activ desktop. how can i do this?
[10:08] <sredna> What do I need to do to get kde 3.5.4? An upgrade with adept will only update to 3.5.2-something, my kubuntu version seems to be 6.06-11
[10:08] <mackan> www.kubuntu.org
[10:08] <mackan> follow one of the headlines
[10:08] <sredna> mackan: To what?
[10:08] <trappist> sredna: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest dapper main  <-- in your sources.list
[10:08] <mackan> exactyl
[10:08] <sredna> trappist: Ty, let me check
[10:09] <nabz> how can i change my default media player?
[10:09] <mackan> then apt-get update
[10:09] <mackan> and dist-upgrade
[10:09] <Miko_> okay next question. in my task bar there are showing all task of all 4 desktops. but i want that there are only shown the one of the activ desktop. how can i do this?
[10:09] <sredna> Ah, it said breezy, and gave an error. Thanks again
[10:10] <trappist> sredna: you *are* running dapper, right?
[10:10] <sredna> trappist: Yes, as I said, it claims to be v. 6.06-11
[10:11] <trappist> ok good :) I wouldn't expect the 3.5.4 upgrade to go very well on a breezy box
[10:11] <asimon> Miko_: right-click on a free place on the panel, choose Configure Panel...->Taskbar: uncheck 'Show windows from all desktops'
[10:12] <Miko_> thx asimon
[10:12] <Miko_> it worked
[10:12] <DaSkreech> nabz: Not sure check System Settings
[10:12] <foot> Bearcat: I'm Back
[10:12] <nabz> ok thanks
[10:12] <zipper> Hmm, according to the various guides, i should be using the synaptics driver for my touchpad. I have installed ksynaptics and it runs... but if i select "disable touchpad", nothing happends, my touchpad still works. Can anyone give me a hint?
[10:13] <salita> does anyone here have or have heard about the 1600sw flat panel?
[10:13] <lhds>  i have downloaded the latest kernel available http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217657&highlight=2.6.17   check it on your list and do it . it helps remove all the problems
[10:13] <Miko_> how can i run commands for the gui from the terminal? without using the gui?
[10:13] <timthelion> zipper: do you have another mouse plugged in?
[10:13] <zipper> timthelion, yes
[10:13] <ctkt05> i need help with my wireless/router... i can ping the router, even access the router config, and everything else within the network but i cannot connect to any internet pages or anything outside my network
[10:14] <zipper> timthelion, they both still work if i disable the touchpad
[10:14] <Miko_> because you helped me so much here is some fun for you: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8716182511981397839
[10:14] <DaSkreech> Miko_: man Dcop
[10:14] <timthelion> zipper:have you tried running it with out that mouse pluged in?
[10:14] <rOOb> ctkt05, check your /etc/resolv.conf
[10:14] <Miko_> Dcop what does it mean?
[10:14] <rOOb> ctkt05, make sure u have nameservers in there
[10:14] <DaSkreech> man dcop
[10:14] <ctkt05> i can ping my ISP's nameservers and the show up in the resolv.conf
[10:15] <zipper> timthelion, how do i restart ksynaptics? There is no such command as 'ksynaptics'
[10:15] <DaSkreech> It's a communication protocol that KDe uses. You can manipulate a lot of gui things with it
[10:15] <rOOb> ctkt05, so there are nameservers in the resolv.conf?
[10:15] <ctkt05> i had the exact same problem with a windows laptop and i disabled netbios over tcp/ip and also LMHOSTS lookup and it soved it
[10:15] <ctkt05> yes there are
[10:15] <rOOb> ctkt05, what kinda router do u have?
[10:15] <ctkt05> its an older linksys .11b router
[10:16] <rOOb> ctkt05, ahh i have one as well
[10:16] <asimon> nabz: I think you have to set the default media player for every file type seperately. Start konqueror, then in the menue: Settings->Configure Konqueror...->File Associations, there choose the file type (for example avi) and set your preferred video player on the top.
[10:16] <timthelion> zipper: isn't it in kmenu->utilitys
[10:16] <aarohi> i'm on ubuntu and i have the kubuntu cd added to the repository list and i started installing the kubuntu-desktop package through synaptic but unfortunately it starts downloading packages from the internet. i cancelled. what do i do to make it install the kubuntu packages from cd? someone help please.........
[10:16] <rOOb> ctkt05, and u can ping only ips?..and not hostnames?...or are all ips outside the lan unreachable?
[10:16] <zipper> timthelion, it's not =/. How do i update the menu?
[10:16] <ctkt05> all outside lan are unreachable
[10:17] <ctkt05> its almost as if my router is blocking traffic to the ubuntu laptop
[10:17] <rOOb> ctkt05, ping 64.233.187.99
[10:17] <rOOb> hmm
[10:17] <ctkt05> im using the router for this laptop and i can access everything
[10:17] <rOOb> so u cant ping that
[10:17] <ctkt05> nope
[10:17] <ctkt05> well shit
[10:17] <ctkt05> im gettin a response from that now
[10:17] <TheGateKeeper> aarohi: does your sources.list have CD & internet repos?
[10:17] <timthelion> zipper: you close all aplications and press ctrl-alt-backspace,  then log in iirc
[10:17] <aarohi> TheGateKeeper: yes
[10:18] <rOOb> ctkt05, well im not to sure man...........im trying to think of what could be causing the prob
[10:18] <zipper> timthelion, be right back then
[10:18] <Miko_> i have no sound with firefox on videos with flash plugin. but i installed it successfully
[10:18] <ctkt05> i can ping 64.233.187.99
[10:18] <rOOb> ctkt05, u CAN?
[10:18] <wildbat> hello ~ anyone here knows how to use SKIM ?
[10:18] <TheGateKeeper> aarohi: comment out the internet repos, press reload on synaptic and try again
[10:18] <rOOb> ctkt05, itdefiantly sounds like a dns issue......that ip is googles
[10:18] <ctkt05> hah, so wierd... yes i can. i tried it earlier
[10:18] <ctkt05> and got nothing
[10:18] <ctkt05> but now i can
[10:19] <Miko_> i have no sound with firefox on videos with flash plugin. but i installed it successfully
[10:19] <ctkt05> yeah i see that now
[10:19] <aarohi> TheGateKeeper: when i do that, the kubuntu-desktop package disappears from the list
[10:19] <aarohi> along with some other required ones
[10:19] <rOOb> ctkt05, can u try and ping google.com real quick
[10:19] <sprink> what does kubuntu use in replace of apt-setup?
[10:19] <ctkt05> i cant get it to ping www.google.com
[10:19] <ctkt05> so does that mean somethings fucked up with my DNS?
[10:19] <rOOb> or try traceroute 64.233.187.99
[10:19] <rOOb> see where it goes
[10:19] <TheGateKeeper> aarohi: are you using the alternative cd or the livecd?
[10:20] <rOOb> ctkt05, are u using any kinda firewall on the ubuntu box?
[10:20] <aarohi> TheGateKeeper: the 6.06 CD.. they've combined it in one
[10:20] <zipper> timthelion, i tried restarting ksynaptics without another mouse plugged in. Same result, disabling the touchpad in ksynaptic doesnt do a thing.
[10:20] <rOOb> ctkt05, or is your outer runnign an advanced firewall
[10:20] <ctkt05> whats the command for traceroute?
[10:20] <asimon> wildbat: I dunno but there is a guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SCIM/Kubuntu?action=show
[10:20] <sprink> how do I add new repositorys to apt, where is apt-setup?
[10:20] <rOOb> ctkt05, shows the hops it takes
[10:21] <salita> what does it mean to have error "403 Forbidden" just in one server of my repos when i try to install with easyubuntu?
[10:21] <ctkt05> is traceroute the actual command? it comes back saying command not found
[10:21] <rOOb> ctkt05, if u traceroute google.com u will see u go thorugh several hops
[10:21] <rOOb> ctkt05, traceroute
[10:21] <rOOb> or try tracepath
[10:22] <jani> Hello, can anyone help me with my wlan card? The Kinfocenter shows the card under the PCI tab, but I can't activate the connections, ideas please?
[10:22] <rOOb>  google.com
[10:22] <rOOb> whoops
[10:22] <ctkt05> ah, tracepath works
[10:22] <Miko_> i have no sound with firefox on videos with flash plugin. but i installed it successfully
[10:22] <asimon> ctkt05: tracepath is installed by default, if you want to use traceroute you first have to install the package
[10:22] <jani> This is a IBM T22 laptop
[10:22] <TheGateKeeper> aarohi: there are 2 seperate cd's one is the livecd with a gui installer no packages, and the other is the 'alternative cd' which comes with a text installer and I believe also has packages on it. It is the second one you want, otherwise you are going to get nowhere fast!
[10:23] <ctkt05> i did tracepath 64.233.187.99 and it has 2 hops then the rest are no replies
[10:23] <jani> abd
[10:23] <rOOb> ctkt05, what are the 2 hops?
[10:23] <jani> and WLan card is on PCMCIA slot
[10:23] <zipper> I'm supposed to use the synaptic driver for my touchpad however i think something is wrong. If i disable the touchpad in ksynaptic, nothing happends. No other mice plugged in. How do i configure the driver? Is it somewhere in xorg.conf?
[10:23] <rOOb> your router then??.
[10:23] <foot> Bearcat: hello?
[10:23] <aarohi> TheGateKeeper: i think i only got 5 CDs in total with the new LTS release.. it was the previous breezy badger versions that 2 CDs were provided
[10:23] <aarohi> TheGateKeeper: the new version has both live and installation CD on a single CD
[10:24] <foot> AAARRRGGG
[10:24] <aarohi> TheGateKeeper: i'm going to install from the internet.. thanks for the help :)
[10:24] <ctkt05> 192.168.0.4 (192.168.0.4) then 62.192.133.145 (62.192.133.145) then no replies after that
[10:24] <Miko_> i have no sound with firefox on videos with flash plugin. but i installed it successfully
[10:24] <ctkt05> thats my actual IP
[10:24] <foot> Behave you figured out the mv comand?
[10:24] <Bearcat> yeah i think
[10:24] <rOOb> ctkt05, hehe umm.....
[10:24] <ctkt05> yeah shouldnt of put it in here...
[10:24] <rOOb> ctkt05, my 1st 2 hops are my machines ip...then my router
[10:25] <ctkt05> hmm
[10:25] <rOOb> ctkt05, i think u need to add the default gateway maby?
[10:25] <TheGateKeeper> aarohi: http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/
[10:25] <Bearcat> in what directory are the two files that you are trying to move
[10:25] <ctkt05> the default gateway is my router
[10:25] <ctkt05> is that correct?
[10:25] <rOOb> but then if u had no gateway u probly should be able to ping ANYTHING outside the lan
[10:25] <rOOb> ctkt05, yup
[10:25] <TheGateKeeper> aarohi: read that url and you will see what I am on about
[10:25] <rOOb> ctkt05, i have a linksys router and i use 192.168.1.1 as the gateway
[10:26] <aarohi> TheGateKeeper: i do see now. i was not aware of those. thank you
[10:26] <ctkt05> i changed it from 1.1 to 0.1
[10:26] <TheGateKeeper> aarohi: yw :-)
[10:26] <aarohi> :-)
[10:26] <Bearcat> foot:  in what directory are the two files that you are trying to move (in case you didn't see that)
[10:27] <rOOb> ctkt05, hmm im not a networking expert but did u also chaneg the netmask and other crap needed to chage the network range?
[10:27] <rOOb> ctkt05, i always though the netmask and few others things needed changes
[10:27] <rOOb> but i could be totaly wrong
[10:27] <foot> Bearcat: ahhh,  mv=move
[10:27] <Bearcat> foot: yup! cp == copy
[10:28] <ctkt05> the netmask needs to  be changed when you mess with the DHCP pool or total amount of available IPs you want to give out
[10:28] <foot> I gotta go eat. will you be here in an hour?
[10:28] <ctkt05> ive got the router's ip set as 192.168.0.1 and the gateway is also 192.168.0.1
[10:28] <Miko_> Which kernelversion has the newest kubuntu version? how can i check it?
[10:28] <ctkt05> i know it works
[10:28] <ctkt05> because im using it right now
[10:28] <Bearcat> foot: yup (unless something happends at work)
[10:28] <TheGateKeeper> foot: linux commands: http://www.ss64.com/bash/
[10:28] <ctkt05> along with 10 other laptops or so
[10:28] <ctkt05> its just my ubuntu that wants to be a pain in the ass about it
[10:28] <foot> TheGateKeeper: thx
[10:28] <rOOb> ctkt05, hmm well somthing isnt set right somewhere.....where i cannot say
[10:28] <TheGateKeeper> foot: yw :-)
[10:29] <ctkt05> it must be a setting on ubuntu because like i said 10+ other laptops work fine on the network
[10:30] <ctkt05> i had one issue with a laptop, and i disabled the lmhosts lookup and the netbios over tcp/ip and it made it work for some reason
[10:30] <ctkt05> i dont know why but it di
[10:30] <ctkt05> did
[10:30] <rOOb> hm
[10:30] <baskew> ctkt05: what about ipv6 it could be trouble for you
[10:31] <ctkt05> what is ipv6...
[10:31] <ctkt05> i found something about that on google
[10:31] <ctkt05> i went into firefox, about:config, searched for ipv6 and disabled it
[10:31] <ctkt05> didnt help
[10:31] <baskew> it can cause strange results
[10:31] <aliasfred> something i can beat! :)
[10:32] <rOOb> ctkt05, sorry i cant help ya more but im out of ideas...if i think of any more ill let ya know
[10:32] <ctkt05> ok, i can access google via the IP address... but not actual google.com
[10:33] <narvik86> so dns ?
[10:33] <baskew> i believe you have to edit /etc/modprobe.d/aliases and comment out ipv6 line
[10:33] <rOOb> yea its gotta be dns
[10:33] <ctkt05> wierd
[10:33] <aliasfred> cat /etc/resove.conf
[10:33] <baskew> yeahthat does sound like dns if you an reach
[10:33] <baskew> /etc/resolv.conf
[10:33] <ctkt05> my ISP has 3 dns servers... i can ping 2  of the 3 so i tried removing the one thats unreachable
[10:33] <ctkt05> but it didnt help
[10:34] <narvik86> isp dns have to be set at router
[10:34] <baskew> ctkt05: make sure resolv.conf has the right entries
[10:34] <narvik86> at laptop set ruoter dns IMO
[10:34] <ctkt05> it does, looking at it now
[10:34] <ctkt05> on the laptop ive input the dns settings and also in the router ive input them
[10:34] <rOOb> ctkt05, also maby try to add your router to the resolv.conf
[10:34] <baskew> i would set the router ans ur dns
[10:34] <baskew> in resolv.conf that is
[10:35] <aholler> is there a way to disable or avoid bluetooth-detection during startup from the live/installation-cd/dvd?
[10:35] <ctkt05> ah, so add my router Ip to the dns?
[10:35] <narvik86> in my resolf.con i have only router dns: nameserver 192.168....
[10:35] <narvik86> yes
[10:35] <rOOb> ctkt05, its worth a sht
[10:35] <baskew> make it the 1st entry, really the only probably
[10:35] <rOOb> i have a huge list of dns server in mine
[10:36] <narvik86> i have only one
[10:36] <rOOb> found every dns server in my state and the surrounding 2 or 3 states
[10:36] <rOOb> lol
[10:36] <baskew> ctck05: are the other machines behind this router having any dns issues?
[10:36] <baskew> *ctkt05
[10:37] <ctkt05> nope
[10:37] <ctkt05> im using a machine behind it now
[10:37] <ctkt05> and have no problems what so ever
[10:37] <ctkt05> they are all windows machines though
[10:37] <rOOb> ctkt05, heres a list of my resolv.conf
[10:37] <rOOb> http://pastebin.ulteo.us/47
[10:37] <baskew> what are the dns settings for those machines? ipconfig /all
[10:38] <Bearcat> git fetch origin master:origin
[10:38] <Bearcat> oops. wrong window
[10:38] <ctkt05> 62.192.168.60 (cant ping, about to remove from router and computer)
[10:38] <ctkt05> 145.253.2.19
[10:38] <ctkt05> and 207.172.3.8
[10:40] <silvio> #debian
[10:42] <ctkt05> i cant believe i havent found anyone yet that has a solution to this, its so frustrating
[10:43] <KaiHanari> I've written a script, i want to have ubuntu run this script at boot, very early in the boot process, as root... how do i do this?
[10:44] <lhds> there is this sound script i want to load : #!/bin/sh sox -c 2 -s -w -r 32000 -t ossdsp /dev/dsp2 -t ossdsp -w -r 32000 /dev/dsp & tvtime --mixer=/dev/mixer:pcm wait tvtime t=`pidof sox`kill $t; amixer -c 0 sset PCM 80%,80%  unmute |||||| where do i have to put this?
[10:44] <narvik86> ctkt05: did you add already router's ip to resolf.conf?
[10:44] <KaiHanari> lhds, when do you want it to load?
[10:44] <lhds> well if it loads at startup .... whynot !
[10:45] <lhds> there is wait tvtime that means that it has to wait so that tvtime opens
[10:45] <lhds> right? so its at startup i guess
[10:45] <baskew> ctkt05: try dig
[10:45] <ctkt05> yes, added router to resolv.conf, no luck
[10:46] <ctkt05> baskew: what do you mean by dig?
[10:46] <narvik86> ctkt05: and restared network of course?
[10:46] <Seiph3r> Hey there anyone know if it is at all possible to fix or rebuild an ext3 partition if it has been deleted from the partition table
[10:46] <lhds> KaiHanari so?
[10:46] <ctkt05> yup
[10:46] <narvik86> ctkt05: type dig in console
[10:46] <Bearcat> folks, i have a concern about my friend using kubuntu. I've exiled sudo on my system as i belive it is a *huge* security risk. Why is using it with kubuntu safe?
[10:46] <baskew> ctkt05: dig is a dns tool
[10:47] <uwo> having problems with java + konqueror - some (older) faq says it might help to input the path to java executable into konq settings... how do i find this path?
[10:47] <KaiHanari> lhds, i just asked about having something run on startup myself, i dont know yet. but your script i think is better off running at login
[10:47] <lhds> how to make it work?
[10:47] <lhds> i save it in a .sh a .pl file?
[10:48] <Seiph3r> bearcat is he using this for senstive data or a server or without a firewall or something?
[10:48] <narvik86> lhds: .sh
[10:48] <ctkt05> ok, did dig, what am i looking for... it says query: 1, answer: 13
[10:48] <Seiph3r> So anyone know anything about ext3 partition recovery?
[10:49] <Bearcat> Seiph3r: to do anything in kubuntu that would require root access (certian installs) you have to use sudo, right?
[10:49] <baskew> oh that search root nameservers
[10:49] <Seiph3r> Bearcat: yes you do
[10:50] <ctkt05> basku: what do you mean
[10:50] <Bearcat> Seiph3r: Sudo makes it possible to break a system if you can get in as a normal user. How is that safe?
[10:50] <ctkt05> baskew i mean
[10:50] <narvik86> Seiph3r: you can try something with cfdisk but i don't know what exactly
[10:50] <baskew> ctkt05: what happens when you try dig google.com
[10:51] <Seiph3r> Bearcat: Is he expecting someone to break into his computer.  I am not saying it is 'safe' I am suggesting Kubuntu is not for applications that require such a high degree of security.  It is mearly convenient.
[10:51] <Seiph3r> narvik86: yeah I don't think there is much cfdisk can do for me at this point.
[10:52] <Bearcat> Seiph3r: no, he's not. I don't use kubuntu, i use sourcemage (like gentoo with bash). I was just shocked to learn that sudo is a core part of the process of using kubuntu
[10:52] <ctkt05> under answer i get 0, authority, 13, under authority section lists a bunch of addresses such as l.gtld-servers.net
[10:52] <narvik86> Seiph3r: sfdisk ?
[10:52] <baskew> ctkt05: what does it say in the SERVER line
[10:53] <Seiph3r> Bearcat: Yeah I am partial to gentoo myself.  I have only been using Kubuntu for this laptop because it has been convenient for me.
[10:53] <ctkt05> 192.168.0.1#53(192.168.0.1)
[10:54] <Seiph3r> narvik86: not sure how I can use sfdisk to rebuild the partition table
[10:54] <nabz> how do i no which version of kde i got?
[10:55] <Seiph3r> nabz: try 'kdesktop --version'
[10:55] <nabz> thanks :)
[10:55] <DaSkreech> nabz: Open some random application and look under help :)
[10:55] <Seiph3r> Figure I am SOL with this partition pretty much.  Stupid IBM recovery disks, I hate IBM soooo much.
[10:56] <narvik86> Seiph3r: man sfdisk and search for -R
[10:56] <KaiHanari> I've written a script, i want to have ubuntu run this script at boot, very early in the boot process, as root... how do i do this?
[10:56] <nabz> anyone know how to install kde themes?
[10:56] <baskew> ctkt05: is it a dhcp assigned nic, or static?
[10:56] <ctkt05> dhcp
[10:56] <ctkt05> let me try a static, see if it does anything different
[10:56] <Seiph3r> Ill try that narvik86
[10:57] <narvik86> Seiph3r: but i'm onlu suggesting, dont want to waste your data
[10:58] <narvik86> I'am too slow with broken collarbone
[10:58] <ctkt05> whats the command to restart networking...
[10:58] <wildbat> hello ~ anyone here knows how to use SKIM ?
[10:59] <baskew> /etc/init.d/networking restart ? i think?
[10:59] <narvik86> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:59] <ctkt05> that did it... but still no luck
[11:00] <ctkt05> yeah, i added the sudo part
[11:00] <ctkt05> i remembered that much heh
[11:00] <baskew> oops yeah sudo =] 
[11:00] <narvik86> :) but i'm too slow with one hand :/
[11:00] <ctkt05> dammit this pisses me off that i cant figure this crap out
[11:00] <Bearcat> narvik86: i'm soooo not saying anything
[11:01] <narvik86> Bearcat: ok i know :)
[11:01] <baskew> eeeeh yeah its bugging me too, not as bad as you im sure
[11:02] <nabz> where would ~/.kde/share/apps/kdm/themes be located?
[11:02] <otaku-san> hey, okay weird but funny thing just happened!  I installed Kubuntu about 2 days ago, and I thought that it was high time I got back to Windoze to get some files ready to move over to Linux.  Well I booted it from Grub, and Windoze had just finishing check disk, and I turn away.  I look back and there is Kubuntu starting to boot up!  I'm on it now...(tho' I just noticed my Liquid Weathers not up).  Has any one had this odd take over b
[11:02] <DaSkreech> otaku-san: Shhhh it's part of the master plan
[11:03] <ctkt05> im still wondering why on my windows machine that had the same problem that by disabling lmhosts lookup and/or netbios over tcp/ip solved the problem
[11:03] <CVirus> LOL
[11:03] <Blissex> otaku-san: you :-)
[11:03] <otaku-san> DaSkreech: Haha yeah I guessed as much!
[11:04] <TheGateKeeper> Bearcat: why sourcemage not gentoo or kubuntu?
[11:04] <baskew> ctkt05: does the output of ifconfig look correct?
[11:04] <Arkkis> Hey, I'm trying to get Azureus working, and when I start it, it just freezes and shows error messages that I can not close
[11:05] <Arkkis> any suggestions how to fix this?
[11:05] <ctkt05> as far as i can tell it looks correct
[11:05] <CVirus> Arkkis: no one knows how to fix something without an error msg .. sorry
[11:05] <ctkt05> shows correct ip, bcast, mask
[11:05] <Arkkis> java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Argument cannot be null at org.eclipse.swt.SWT.error(SWT.java:2926)
[11:06] <Bearcat> TheGateKeeper: as far as kubuntu goes, i want a highly configurable system that compiles thing for my cpu (i can control the compilation process). Gentoo is nice, but i dont' like the dependancy on perl. Sourcemage uses plain bash. Also i was in sourcemage from the beginning. It's been almost 7 years with it i think.
[11:06] <ctkt05> UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
[11:06] <ctkt05> no errors or dropped or overruns
[11:06] <Arkkis> I get also this: java.security.KeyStoreException: JKS at java.security.KeyStore.getInstance(libgcj.so.7)
[11:06] <wildbat> hello ~ anyone here knows how to use SKIM ? i got trouble using CangJie
[11:06] <aytch> Where are program files stored? I'm trying to install a plugin for xchat, and it says install to ~/xchat2/
[11:07] <CVirus> Arkkis: will you run it from terminal and paste me the output somewhere
[11:07] <Arkkis> sure
[11:07] <narvik86> ~ is your home directory
[11:08] <ctkt05> i may have found something on google about this
[11:08] <aytch> So I would need to create the /xchat/ directory?
[11:08] <narvik86> i'm not using xchat but maybe ~/.xchat2/ ?
[11:08] <aytch> yeah...~/.xchat2/ is what it says to install to...but there's no folder by that name.
[11:08] <aytch> Did I mention I'm new to this? :P
[11:08] <narvik86> aytch: it is hidden in konqueror
[11:09] <aytch> I see
[11:09] <narvik86> but type in konqueror address bar ~/.
[11:09] <narvik86> and it shoul show you all folders with . in name
[11:10] <aytch> Ahhh...thanks!
[11:10] <narvik86> aytch: no problem :)
[11:10] <nabz> anyone know how to install a kde theme?
[11:11] <narvik86> nabz: what theme?
[11:11] <narvik86> nabz: give me link and i will try
[11:11] <nabz> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=22187
[11:11] <Arkkis> CVirus, http://paste.uni.cc/9232
[11:12] <nabz> the how to install bit.... i dont have the kdm folder :s
[11:12] <baskew> ctkt05: any luck?
[11:13] <TheGateKeeper> Bearcat: I am reasonable new to linux, and much as I like (k)ubuntu I must confess to being a little uncomfortable with their upgrade cycle, although it's easy, I am never 100% sure what it might break at the end of the process. I have been thinking about gentoo as a posible alternative, do you think Sourcemage would be a better bet??
[11:13] <ctkt05> still working it...
[11:13] <Arkkis> TheGateKeeper, if you're new to Linux, I'd prolly not recommend gentoo
[11:13] <ctkt05> this is what i found
[11:13] <ctkt05> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5690
[11:13] <Arkkis> altho, you do  learn a bit with it
[11:14] <ctkt05> talks about the exact problem ive got
[11:14] <Arkkis> and they do have nice wiki
[11:14] <ubuntu> bonjour tout le monde
[11:14] <narvik86> nabz: working
[11:14] <ctkt05> im still on step one, adding the "universe mirrors" or whatever haha
[11:14] <nabz> it worked?
[11:14] <DaSkreech> !fr
[11:14] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:15] <DaSkreech> Damn
[11:15] <Arkkis> CVirus, did you get the errormsg?
[11:15] <TheGateKeeper> Arkkis: it won't go on my main box untill I can successfully install it on my test box :-)
[11:15] <CVirus> Arkkis: thats the only post I found that has a similar problem and its not solved yet http://www.suseforums.net/lofiversion/index.php/t21635.html
[11:15] <narvik86> nabz: wait i will try other and then give you result :)
[11:16] <Arkkis> I'm definedly running it as root (as you can see =)
[11:16] <nabz> ok thanx =] 
[11:16] <baskew> i have a feeling that you will not be able to ping the servers unless u have the ip
[11:16] <Arkkis> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=7593.0;topicseen
[11:16] <Arkkis> that seems a bit similar to my problem
[11:17] <TheGateKeeper> Arkkis: also not so wet behind the ears I can't help a few folks in hear, and have managed to pick up quite a few usefull tip bits of info :-)
[11:17] <Arkkis> CVirus, do I need to fiddle with java or something to get it working, I just installed it from the repository
[11:17] <Miko__> I'm trying everything but the command make menuconfig doesnt wrking
[11:17] <Miko__> working
[11:17] <Miko__> can anyone helb me
[11:17] <Miko__> i installed all programms for it
[11:18] <wildbat> hello ~ anyone here knows how to use SKIM ? i got trouble using CangJie
[11:18] <DaSkreech> Miko__: Why are you building your own kernel?
[11:18] <CVirus> Arkkis: I really dont know ... googling more though
[11:18] <ach> Miko__: your're trying to build an kernel?
[11:18] <DaSkreech> wildbat: not sure If you find out tell me I've been trying to battle it myself
[11:18] <Arkkis> thanks, I appreciate the effort, I'm kinda new to kubuntu
[11:18] <DaSkreech> wildbat: I wonder if the skim site would help?
[11:18] <baskew> ctkt05: i see they tell u to remove the ipv6 lines in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[11:19] <wildbat> DaSkreech: i tried ~ ... everytime i ctrl+space ~ nothing happen
[11:19] <Miko__> I want that the system is using my second core! so i want to modify the existing config and make the kernel new
[11:20] <CVirus> Arkkis: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[11:20] <DaSkreech> Miko__: How about you apt-get install the smp kernel
[11:20] <baskew> ctkt05: good luck, i must go
[11:20] <DaSkreech> Miko__: THen you can have it working while you tinker?
[11:20] <Miko__> whats the name of the smp kernel??
[11:21] <TheGateKeeper> Arkkis: run accross this page: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[11:21] <Bearcat> TheGateKeeper: i do. We keep out our packages up todate. The latest version of kde was available a few hours after it was out
[11:21] <CVirus> Miko__: linux-smp
[11:21] <Miko__> ?
[11:21] <narvik86> nabz: install: sudo apt-get install kcontrol-kdmtheme   and then in system settings pick it and open *.bz2 file
[11:21] <DaSkreech> Miko__: What CPU do you have?
[11:21] <Bearcat> TheGateKeeper: the syntax is a lot simpler, and it's just cool to enter commands like  "dispell" and cast"
[11:22] <DaSkreech> Bearcat: fire lvl 5!
[11:22] <Bearcat> TheGateKeeper: i'm a regular contributer.
[11:22] <Bearcat> DaSkreech: indeed!
[11:22] <Miko__> I have got a centrino core duo
[11:22] <Miko__> in my notebook
[11:22] <Miko__> linux-686-smp - Complete Linux kernel on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP.  /// its not for my cpu
[11:22] <CVirus> Arkkis: so ?
[11:22] <Arkkis> CVirus, installing
[11:22] <CVirus> Miko__: thats the right one
[11:23] <Bearcat> TheGateKeeper: we even have a great little script to help you write spells, which are very easy
[11:23] <Miko__> no not for my processor
[11:23] <Miko__> CVirus
[11:23] <CVirus> Miko__: thats what I'm using with my laptop
[11:23] <DaSkreech> Miko__: linux-686-smp
[11:23] <CVirus> Miko__: it is the correct one
[11:23] <Miko__> okay i will try
[11:23] <TheGateKeeper> Bearcat: excellent :-)
[11:23] <Miko__> I hope it will work like the kernel now. everything is fine
[11:23] <CVirus> Miko__: Core Duo is a 686 kernel
[11:23] <Miko__> when not i will not come back :-D
[11:23] <CVirus> i mean a 686 proc
[11:24] <Miko__> Es mssen 52,8MB Archive geholt werden.
[11:24] <Miko__> Nach dem Auspacken werden 150MB Plattenplatz zustzlich benutzt.
[11:24] <Miko__> LOL
[11:24] <Miko__> 150 mb
[11:24] <Miko__> for the kernel?????
[11:24] <Miko__> oh archiv. data and kernel i think
[11:24] <Miko__> sorry
[11:24] <Arkkis> CVirus, okay, the installation took a long time, because.. ..kubuntu seems to reset my resolv.conf around midnight or something similar
[11:24] <Arkkis> so, my dns server gets erased
[11:25] <Arkkis> well serverip
[11:25] <TheGateKeeper> Bearcat: once the weather closes in and we stop going out I will give it a try, I have bookmarked the web site, thanx for that :-)
[11:25] <CVirus> Arkkis: just take your time .. I'm always here
[11:25] <narvik86> nabz: it works with your theme, with that you gave me link
[11:25] <Miko__> must i do anything after apt-get install KERNEL ?
[11:25] <Miko__> must i take it in the menu.lst of grub?
[11:25] <Arkkis> CVirus, any toughts on the reset of the resolv.conf?
[11:25] <CVirus> Miko__: just reboot into it
[11:25] <DaSkreech> Miko__: it does that by itself
[11:25] <Miko__> okay just reboot
[11:25] <CVirus> Miko__: apt will add it automatically
[11:25] <CVirus> Arkkis: no really
[11:25] <Miko__> I like linux, its so easy
[11:26] <narvik86> :)
[11:26] <Miko__> but its so different from windows. a big change because windows is unlogical
[11:26] <CVirus> we'll see about that later on
[11:26] <Miko__> Where do you all come from?
[11:26] <DaSkreech> !fr
[11:26] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:27] <CVirus> I'm from Egypt
[11:27] <narvik86> !pl
[11:27] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[11:27] <CVirus> !eg
[11:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about eg - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:27] <CVirus> LOL
[11:27] <Miko__> !de
[11:27] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:27] <narvik86> Poland
[11:27] <the-erm> shift+space .... anyone know how to turn the foreign character set that comes up?
[11:27] <foot> Bearcat:  I am back
[11:27] <foot> Befor a limited time
[11:27] <the-erm> It only happens on gtk apps.  Like gaim, and firefox.
[11:28] <the-erm> s/turn/turn off
[11:28] <Arkkis> !fi
[11:28] <ubotu> Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[11:28] <Arkkis> whoa
[11:29] <Miko__> !ru
[11:29] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[11:32] <foot> Bearcat: heelloooo?
[11:32] <Arkkis> CVirus, nope does not seem to help
[11:32] <neuraloverload> hello everyone
[11:33] <Miko__> How can i play a mms videostream with linux?
[11:33] <CVirus> Arkkis: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[11:34] <Neural_Overload> This is probably one of the most commonly asked questions from noobs but... How do you enable mp3 support for amarok?
[11:34] <narvik86> Miko__: mplayer can handle it
[11:34] <CVirus> Arkkis: so
[11:34] <CVirus> ?
[11:35] <Arkkis> CVirus, seems to work thousands of times better, thank you man!
[11:35] <aytch> Neural_Overload: I just used synaptic to update my libmad0, and it worked.
[11:36] <aytch> I'm using a different distro, though, so it may be different for you.
[11:36] <Neural_Overload> Hmm
[11:36] <Neural_Overload> Im using Kubuntu 6.06.1
[11:37] <CVirus> Arkkis: you're more than welcomed
[11:37] <aytch> I'm using Mepis 6, but I think both of them use Synaptic.
[11:37] <Neural_Overload> Yeah
[11:37] <Miko__> narvik86 i cant install mplayer
[11:38] <Bearcat> foot: hello
[11:38] <Bearcat> foot: keep in mind, i'm also at work so i'll answer as i can
[11:38] <foot> Bearcat: so what exactly am I triying to do here?
[11:38] <narvik86> Miko__: why not? enabled ropositories?
[11:38] <foot> Bearcat: yup
[11:39] <the-erm> Miko__: you need to set up your /etc/sources.list  http://blog.the-erm.com/index.php/archives/170#more-170
[11:39] <darekdmp> jest tu jakis polak?
[11:39] <the-erm> Miko__: mplayer truly rocks.  imo
[11:40] <Neural_Overload> Hmm...
[11:40] <Neural_Overload> How do i update things using synaptic?
[11:40] <darekdmp> poprawka. jest tu jakas polka?
[11:40] <narvik86> Miko__: or try ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:40] <narvik86> darekdmp: polak tak
[11:41] <foot> Bearcat: r u on the same page with me as far as where and what I am supposed to be doing?
[11:41] <djordje> Hi to all
[11:42] <DaSkreech> Neural_Overload: Install libxine-extracodecs
[11:42] <Bearcat> foot: yes
[11:42] <djordje> i have problem with kubuntu. can someone help me?
[11:42] <DaSkreech> !pl
[11:42] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[11:43] <narvik86> djordje: describe it, and we will try
[11:43] <Neural_Overload> DaSkreech: I have tried, but its not listed in synaptic, and in apt-get it says that its probably outdated
[11:43] <foot> Bearcat: ok so I am to move a file... where? how? mv ~/ivtv-0.4.0.tar.gz ./' is to move the file where? '
[11:43] <DaSkreech> Neural_Overload: are you on kubuntu?
[11:43] <Neural_Overload> Yeap
[11:43] <djordje> well it i made a mistake
[11:43] <djordje> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:43] <Bearcat> foot: notice that those commands begin with a "~" that means the commands are actually "sudo mv /home/lovely/ivtv-0.4.0.tar.gz ./" if ivtv-0.4.0.tar.gz is not in your home dir they won't work
[11:43] <djordje> and remove some software like konqeror
[11:44] <Bearcat> foot: ",/" means current directory
[11:44] <DaSkreech> Neural_Overload: So howcome you aren't using adept?
[11:44] <djordje> and now, i don't know how to install konqereor
 dlaczego ubuntu lub kubuntu ?-porownanie.
[11:44] <Bearcat> so you have to sudo cd /usr/src
[11:44] <Neural_Overload> DaSkreech: I dunno, cause im a noob?
[11:44] <Neural_Overload> Lol
[11:44] <narvik86> djordje: try to install it manually
[11:44] <Bearcat> foot: so you have to sudo cd /usr/src first
[11:44] <foot> Bearcat: right and they are in the home/lovely so the get moved into the current dir
[11:45] <foot> Bearcat:root@Hermes:/usr/src#
[11:45] <narvik86> darekdmp: ?? bo sie przyzwyczailem w auroxie do kde :) teraz sciagam xubuntu i zobacze czy bardzo szybsze jest
[11:45] <Bearcat> foot: cool
[11:46] <foot> Bearcat: mv: cannot stat `/root/ivtv-0.4.0.tar.gz': No such file or directory
[11:46] <Neural_Overload> DaSkreech: I believe ive enabled all the repositorys for adept, i type in libxine and libxine-extracodecs isnt listed anywhere.
[11:46] <foot> Bearcat: so this means I need to add the home lovely so that it can find the file?
[11:46] <Bearcat> are they in /root?
[11:46] <narvik86> darekdmp: ze wzgledu na reopzytoria, odkad mam net mam kubuntu, wczesniej aurox bo mialem mase pakietow na dvd
[11:47] <foot> Bearcat: /home/lovely
[11:48] <Bearcat> foot: oh, they are?
[11:48] <darekdmp> od kiedy mialem kompa to tylko dos i win... ciezko jest przejsc i sie przestawic dla laika
[11:48] <Neural_Overload> Ive tried installing this, but still nothing happens...
[11:48] <Neural_Overload> gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[11:48] <Bearcat> foot:  give me an ls of those files please
[11:49] <foot> Bearcat: yes, on the first page I was following that is where they werre designated they should go.
[11:49] <foot> Bearcat: ls /home/lovely    ?
[11:50] <djordje> narvik, how to install manually, i tryed sudo apt-get install konqeror, but it depend on other packeges
[11:50] <Neural_Overload> DaSkreech: You there?
[11:51] <darekdmp> narvik86 wyskoczylo mi cos -[505]  Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[11:52] <foot> Bearcat: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20330
[11:53] <soulrider> oh my
[11:53] <soulrider> my klicker crashed
[11:53] <soulrider> and i dont know how to start it
[11:53] <soulrider> i enabled transparency and everythign crashed
[11:53] <soulrider> any ideas
[11:53] <CVirus> soulrider: klicker or kicker ?
[11:53] <soulrider> errr
[11:53] <soulrider> the bar at the bottom
[11:53] <foot> Bearcat: I will have to move the /pvr48wdm_1.8.22037.exe  as it is on my desktop
[11:54] <CVirus> soulrider: alt + f2 .. a window will open ... type konsole and hit enter ... a concole will open .. type kicker and hit enter
[11:54] <narvik86> OrthodoxCelt: trying to do this...
[11:54] <soulrider> yea..t he thing is
[11:55] <soulrider> it crashes when i open it :P
[11:55] <soulrider> i think im gonna have to delete the config
[11:56] <CVirus> soulrider: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kicker
[11:56] <soulrider> what does that do ?
[11:56] <soulrider> :
[11:56] <CVirus> soulrider: will reconfigure your kicker
[11:56] <soulrider> its back
[11:56] <soulrider> :):):)
[11:56] <CVirus> soulrider: RTFM
[11:56] <soulrider> thanks =D
[11:56] <CVirus> ;-)
[11:57] <soulrider> RTFM?
[11:57] <CVirus> no problem
[11:57] <CVirus> Read The Fine Manual about what dpkg-reconfigure does
[11:57] <wildbat> anyone knows any goo codec pack like (k-lite maga) in win dows?
[11:59] <narvik86> OrthodoxCelt: don''t have idea with this konqueror, sorry
[11:59] <andreas_> hat hier jemand x11r7.1 installiert?
[12:00] <Bearcat> foot: ok. notice that the commands on the page are "sudo mv ~/ivtv-0.4.0.tar.gz ./" and sudo "mv ~/pvr48wdm_1.8.22037.exe ./"
[12:00] <foot> yes, but I am operating as root
[12:01] <Bearcat> foot are you changing the version numbers in the commands to match those of the files you have?
[12:01] <foot> Bearcat: nope, guess that would matter eh.
[12:01] <Bearcat> yeah
 caly czas [505] 
[12:03] <Bearcat> foot: my client died :/
[12:03] <foot> Bearcat: I will play TAPS
[12:03] <Bearcat> foot: lol. Anway, you get it now, right
[12:03] <foot> Bearcat: almost
[12:04] <foot> Bearcat: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20332
[12:08] <foot> Bearcat: ahh heck I gotta leave again. I will be out for around 2 hours. possibly see you on tonight.
[12:08] <foot> Bearcat: I know this is simple, but I am reaining clam ;}