Tuxi see something in blue called targetware12:01
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mweTux: where did you download it to?12:01
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vbgunzAnyone know a good program to scan a directory and find duplicates?12:01
TheGateKeeperbackz: isn't that in the repos?12:01
Tuxi told it to download it to desktop but it's not there12:01
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Tuxduh cuz it's hidden!12:01
popeyTux: cd ~/Desktop12:01
mweTux: I think you already extracted it to $PWD if you see targetware there12:02
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mwepopey: I think he has already extracted it to ~12:02
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Tuxwait what?12:02
backzTheGateKeeper, only old version, gtk112:02
LDZ420hey I tried to do the sudo apt-get update && and apt-get upgrade got partially done with the update and then said that it couldn't open /var/lib/dpkg because permission are denied12:02
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vbgunzCan nautilus clean a cdrw/dvdrw? it has content but I would like to delete it and redo the cd/dvd... I thought nautilus could do this... is this possible? has the feature been removed in the latest dapper update or something?12:03
Masqywhere is the /etc/rc2.d/S40networking file in ubuntu?12:03
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popeyLDZ420: only the update was run under sudo, not the upgrade12:03
mweTux: it's already extracted if you see targerware12:03
Masqy(The debian reference guide refers to it)12:03
TheGateKeeperbackz: ok :-)12:03
popeyLDZ420: just re-run sudo apt-get upgrade12:03
Tuxok so now what12:03
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ConstyIs anyone away of problems with characters like ' or @ and such in a SSID?12:03
mxpxpodcafuego: pign12:03
mxpxpodor, ping, rather12:03
LDZ420thx bratha12:04
popeyTux: it fails to run here... I get an error loading a shared library when I run targetware12:04
mweTux: try typing targetware/targetware12:04
backzTheGateKeeper, haha, using aptitude it question to downgrade libxfixes312:04
Tuxash: targetware/targetware: No such file or directory12:05
Tuxbash*: targetware/targetware: No such file or directory12:05
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popeyTux: alan@hactar:~/Downloads/targetware$ ./targetware12:05
mweTux: where are you? type pwd12:05
popey./targetware: error while loading shared libraries: libcurl.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory12:05
LDZ420popey: was it because I was trying to run both utilities in one command? would it have worked if I had placed a ; in between the 2 commands?12:05
popeyLDZ420: not sure how you do that properly actually :)12:05
BojI'm in the process of chanign my xorg.conf. I'm using this guide: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/ChangeResolution . I've just made a custom modeline and am just wondering whereabouts in the "Monitor" section that i insert the line?12:05
popeyLDZ420: it's just because it timed out your sudo12:05
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popeyBoj: pretty much anywhere i think12:06
TheGateKeeperbackz: excellent :-) synaptic is very good to. take a look at this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12758712:06
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BojBut before it says EndSection?12:06
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iqonis there a command to translate a relative filepath to a full filepath?12:06
ubotuCD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto12:06
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Tuxi typed in pwd and got this: /home/falco/Desktop12:07
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valehruHey guys, I want a cron job to automatically schedule an upload to a ftp server.  If I have the filename then what is the command to upload the file?12:07
apothThis might be inappropriate for this chan..12:07
apoth...but I was wondering if any of you are using ubuntu on the macbook.12:07
iqonfor example o translate ./Desktop to /home/falco/Desktop12:07
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popeyTux: you on ubuntu dapper? I suspect targetware won't work, it won't run here12:08
apothI don't use ubuntu, but it looks like a lot of people using the macbook are also using ubuntu.12:08
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popeyTux: you running ubuntu?12:08
popeyTux: I don't think it will work, I have just tried it here12:08
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popeyTux: it errors on startup, I had to do some hacking, and it still fails to stat - with a different error now12:09
popeyit's not nice12:09
backzTheGateKeeper, ohh shitt! I'll get ruby on rails, mysql server and write my own money-administrator =P12:09
smackygod bless ubuntu desktop12:09
Tuxwhat do i type to install it?12:09
popeyTux: you don't, you just run it12:09
purple_cowi've got an up-to-date dapper, and gdb is complaining that it can't find libtermcap.so.2.  any clues?12:09
mweTux: I just downloaded it myself. I'm having problems with missing libraries and I can't find them12:09
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TheGateKeeperbackz: it's that bad?12:10
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Tuxyeah, my friend said it was hard to do12:10
BojOnce I have altered my xorg.conf do I just hit Ctrl + Alt + Backspace?12:10
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sethkpurple_cow, libncurses5-dev12:10
popeyboj if you do that, X will close12:10
popeyboj, well, restart12:10
apothI guess no one does.12:10
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popeyboj, if that's what you want, then yes :)12:10
BojYeah the last time I did that it all went black12:10
popeyapoth: i tried it12:10
Bojand then I was stuck,12:10
backzTheGateKeeper, isn't. but I haven't time =(12:11
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sethkpurple_cow, or, termcap-compat12:11
BojShould I just do a normal restart then?12:11
Tuxso i can't get it?12:11
xevilBoj: it doesn't matter one way or the other12:11
AngryElfis there a way i can save Gaim's window size/location?12:11
mweTux: the binary seems to be outdated12:11
mweTux: it's two years old12:12
Tuxwhich means?12:12
xevilthe restart is quicker12:12
TheGateKeeperbackz: well good luck with what ever you decide to do :-)12:12
Tuxim a linux noob12:12
purple_cowno termcap-compat available, and libncurses5-dev doesn't seem to provide the .2 symlink.  i suppose i can symlink it by hand12:12
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jribAngryElf: try devilspie12:12
mweTux: it's depending on library versions not present anymore I think12:12
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sethkpurple_cow, I should.  I was checking against breezy, by the way12:12
BojOk thanks xevil, If i'm not back with success you'll know I've messed the xorg.conf again :P12:12
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Tuxwell what did you do to install/run/extract/download or whatever12:13
xevilBoj: stuff happens12:13
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ychuurghghh i hate it12:13
Marupaheya....just barely installed ubuntu...what's the default admin password?  it never asked me to set it.12:13
Tuxwhen you got the error12:13
sethkpurple_cow,  the link is in termcap-compat12:13
ychthe worst thing about my switch to linux12:13
sethkpurple_cow, only libtermcap.so is in libncurses5-dev12:13
jribMarupa: it is your user password12:13
ychi miss photoshop so much12:13
m4rkubuntu is the shit12:13
jrib!sudo > Marupa12:13
Tuxgimp works like ps12:13
m4rkych i can get the photoshop splash screen - yay me12:13
sethkych, I can do pretty much anything in gimp that I can do in photoshop12:13
MarupaI see...12:13
ychi'd even rather use paint than gimp right now12:13
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popeymwe: I symbolically linked and got it past that error12:13
mfabbrihi, the last cupsys update broke ipp printing on my home server, is anybody experimenting anything similar?12:13
ychyeah it does everything12:13
xevilych: can't stand The Gimp?12:13
ychbut i cant  use it12:13
ychits so different12:13
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m4rki have started using gimp. for some reason it's OK12:13
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sethkych, of course, there is no reason you can't use photoshop, if that's what you want12:14
Tuxwell what did you do to install/run/extract/download or whatever12:14
ychfor linux?12:14
sethkgimp is an excellent program12:14
ychcane i wine it?12:14
popeymwe: Tux sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libcurl.so.3 /usr/lib/libcurl.so.212:14
mwepopey: the libstdc++ one?12:14
mwepopey: did that and got another12:14
popeyno, libcurl12:14
sethkych, no, for windows.  run windows and use photoshop, if that's the environment you need12:14
ychno i want linux12:14
ychtrying to get off windows12:14
Tuxfalco@Smith:~/Desktop$ sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libcurl.so.3 /usr/lib/libcurl.so.212:14
Tuxln: `/usr/lib/libcurl.so.2': File exists12:14
sethkych, then stop complaining about photoshop12:14
ychjust gonna be hard to relearn12:14
Flannelych: you can get gimpshop, to make gimp look and feel more like photoshop12:14
m4rkdoes skype work with ubuntu?12:15
mweTux: install libcurl3 first12:15
Flannel!tell m4rk about skype12:15
popeymwe: i get ./targetware: symbol lookup error: ./targetware: undefined symbol: alutInit12:15
polpakych: or you can spend a little time using the gimp, and you'll get used to it12:15
Marupaalso...how do I switch resolutions to higher than 1024?  it won't let me.12:15
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m4rki can't work out how to get gimpshop installed without it giving all sorts of warnings about deleting all sorts of shit that might be important12:15
mwepopey: I'm getting libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.312:15
cntbm4rk: sure does12:15
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cry0genany of you have any issues with Xgl12:15
m4rki mean to remove gimp first so i can install gimpshop12:15
popeymwe, I fixed that for another app a few months ago12:15
cry0genand gtk apps12:15
cry0gengoing ape shit on cpu usage12:15
mwepopey: oh probably due to the wrong version of libcurl12:15
mwepopey: how?12:15
pushpopCould anyone possibly link me to a how to, to dual boot with XP I have 2 partitions one for xp and other for ubuntu12:15
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cry0geni mena gnome-panel itself is taking up 42% of cpu12:16
ycharrghh i cant even copy a layer to an expanded canvas12:16
m4rkthanks Flannel12:16
Flannel!tell pushpop about dualboot12:16
NemesisUKanyone know how to share a printer between ubuntu machines12:16
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m4rkis Flannel a bot?12:16
ychdamn this is frustrating12:16
pushpopThank you12:16
ychright now i feel i could be getting more done with mspaint12:16
mwepopey: how did you fix the libstdc++ error?12:16
Marupadang...why the heck are these downloads going so freaking slow?12:16
cntb824 ppl in the room. about time 4 a second room12:16
popeymwe: finding notes, one mo12:16
polpakych: try getting help in #gimp12:16
Flannelych: there is OOo Draw ;)12:16
Marupa16K/s  x.x12:16
mwepopey: ok12:16
popeymwe: sudo apt-get install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.212:16
ychill try that :D12:16
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mwepopey: oh12:16
mikolanis it possible to run kTorrent with gnome?12:16
Tuxhow do i insrall that thin popey12:17
jribych: gimp is diferent than ps, so it will take some getting used to like any new program.  I've read that photoshop 7 works well in wine though if you really need it12:17
mwepopey: I think we need a proper libcurl2 though12:17
cry0genmikolan: of course12:17
Tuxi mean mwe12:17
mikolanok good :)12:17
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popeymwe: his is alright, and so is mine12:17
polpakych: for vector graphics there's also inkscape12:17
popeymwe: i just linked my libcurl3 to libcurl212:17
Tux"mwe Tux: install libcurl3 first" how?12:17
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mwepopey: but you get an error12:17
TheGateKeeperpushpop: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-610449081131189823612:17
popeymwe: not related to libcurl though12:17
mwepopey: probably because you just linked it12:17
m4rkych what do you use photoshop for?12:17
mwepopey: are you sure?12:18
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popeymwe: googling12:18
Jack_SparrowFYI, I was/am running 386 kernel and I added the 686, the only problemn I found is that the system will do a shutdown but it does not turn itself off like the 386 does.  I checked and the 386 still shuts all the down the other stops12:18
Tux"mwe Tux: install libcurl3 first" how?12:18
popeymwe: yes, sure, alutInit is part of openal12:18
mwepopey: oh12:18
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popeytux, we're working on it, hang on12:18
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Tuxaight thankd12:18
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mwepopey: wrong openal version maybe then12:19
_w^x_I need a good secure p2p client/network any recommends?12:19
popeyThe following packages have unmet dependencies.12:19
popey  libopenal0a: Conflicts: libopenal0 but 0.2005080600-2.1build2 is to be installed12:19
m4rk_w^x_ stunnel12:19
popeylooks a bit broken12:19
jmh09wx:try frostwire and gnutella12:19
jmh09never used anything else12:19
mwepopey: you can only have one of them I think12:19
pushpopWill Ubuntu install detect a serial ATA Drive automatically?12:19
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popeymwe: yeah, doing only libopenal012:20
_w^x_no a p2p client12:20
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jmh09frostwire is built on limewire but its free with all features including speed unlocked12:20
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jmh09so its basically like limewire pro12:20
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popeyTux: got it working :D12:20
pushpopWill Ubuntu install detect a serial ATA Drive automatically?12:20
_w^x_K cool12:20
MystaMaxwhat is this the correct syntax for scp:    scp FILENAME username@hostname: ??what goes here???12:20
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popeypushpop: depends on the card, if SATA Sil, probably12:20
jmh09wx ask if you need help installing12:20
mwepopey: I'm getting the undefined symbol now as well12:20
mwepopey: alutInit12:21
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popeymwe: installing libopenal0 fixed it for me12:21
ignemMystaMax: the path you copy it to, relative to homedir12:21
pushpoppopey: I have SATA Sil and it doesnt seem to be detecting my hd, what could I do?12:21
mwepopey: odd I had that12:21
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m4rkMystaMax man scp12:21
DarkAuditpushpop: it did on mine, but I had to make a partition for my /home directory with a non-linux partitioner before it would install correctly... wouldn't work with a full NTFS drive12:22
Tuxu did?12:22
mwepopey: whoa. it works now it seems12:22
MystaMaxm4rk, already read it, its a bit confusing on the appropiate syntax12:22
Tuxhow do i do it then?12:22
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MystaMaxignem, so if I dont specify a path to copy to, is there a default?12:22
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popeyTux: you have a terminal open, type pwd12:23
ignemMystaMax: yes, your homedir will be default then12:23
mwepopey: _usually_ new libraries are backward compatible so I was wondering if the libcurl was really causing. not after all12:23
devz0rhow do i upgrade from 6.06 to dapper 6.06.1 ?12:23
m4rkMystaMax: ok12:23
dmitrihello! my thinkpad x31 keeps freezing several times a day, with no explanation. i have all updates  installed. could anyone help, please?12:23
Marupaok, so is everyone just ignoring me cause I'm new?12:23
popeydevz0r: update manager will manage that12:23
Tuxthen what12:23
Tuxpopey, diff channel? i can't see12:23
popeydevz0r: you don't need to explictly upgrade "to" 6.06.112:23
devz0ryou mean12:24
popeyTux: #tuxplace12:24
devz0rall at once12:24
MystaMaxthanks so much ignem! worked like a charm!12:24
popeydevz0r: if you've been a good boy and kept up to date then effectively you are already on or past 6.06.112:24
devz0roh ok12:24
popeyTux: /join #tuxplace12:24
mwepopey: it seems I have no availble mods for the game though ;) gonna dl one12:24
devz0rbecause i have nothing that's behind on apt-get upgrade12:25
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ignemMystaMax: np, happy to help12:25
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popeymwe: --> #tuxplace ?12:25
cablesm102When I try to mount a Samba share, I gut the message "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on..."12:25
cablesm102can someone help me?12:25
mikolanOk, so how do I give my user read/write access to a truecrypt partition?12:26
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Marupaok....this is freaking annoying.12:26
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ignemi have a problem with the .mov codec, it renders a green line in the video(top) and it looks really messy. do anyone know of a good codec?12:27
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ychwow finally12:28
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ychgonna take a while to relearn this stuff12:28
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dmitrihello! my thinkpad x31 keeps freezing several times a day, with no explanation. i have all updates  installed. could anyone help, please?12:30
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dou213hey what can i do if i want some eye-candies for my ubuntu, but my card doesn't support xgl?12:30
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m4rki dunno dou12:33
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m4rkdou213: gnome-look.org ?12:34
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dou213i'll give it a try12:34
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jmh09dou I heard something abotu like compiz+aixgl12:34
jmh09or soemthign like that12:34
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apothSomeone in here use a macbook?12:35
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dou213i htought compiz is the same like xgl12:35
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dou213and i can't install the fglrx driver :(12:35
dou213for xgl12:35
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psticknego installers!12:36
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems12:36
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psticknethe partition program with ubuntu nicely messed up my partition table; it's broken in cfdisk with "overlaps" but works in fdisk. in addition my home partition suddenly stopped working.12:36
pstickneor rather, the ext3 filesystem was corrupted.12:37
pstickneyay ubuntu! :(12:37
dou213jmh09, so u mean i should go for compiz + aixgl12:37
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polpakpstickne: it's the same partition program the other distros use12:37
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psticknepolpak: some use it.12:38
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Gun_SmokeQuestion, is it much different partition and dual boot a windows machine with ubuntu than it is to do with a mac?  Reason I'm asking is because I've only dual booted with the mac, and did a clean install with the windows machine.12:38
ignemdou213: gdesklets, xfce4-terminal (transparent, wo window-borders) and download some pretty gtk-, nautilus-, and icon-theme, gdm (if you dont like the default) and download a nice wallpaper (deviantart.com art.gnome.org gnome-look.org)12:38
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psticknepolpak: but it shouldn't be used. it's like a broken version of pqmagic. minus anything cool.12:38
ychanyone had trouble with the sound on youtube before?12:39
jmh09dou, I just heard about someone else doing it. Sorry, that's all I know. Maybe you can find something at the forums?12:39
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ychand knows how to fix it?12:39
rdemanowMy Gnome system sounds are working, as is sound for Flash programs in Firefox, but for some reason play won't produce sound when invoked on a .wav file, even though it generates output in the terminal windows as if it were.12:39
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jmh09ych this might help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=187752&highlight=sound+flash12:40
pstickneanyway, fishing for superblocks is failing so... chances are it off'd by one the partition table.12:40
dou213ignem, thx12:41
sysdocpstickne, use teskdisk to recover the partition table. then reinstall grub12:41
ychthank you12:41
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cry0genwhy is gnome-panel using 33% CPU12:42
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pipboybecause it's gnome-panel?12:43
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spegelapanIs wine running nice with ubuntu? and can I run warcraft frozen throne with it? :/12:43
ychthanks it works12:43
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rdemanowMy Gnome system sounds are working, as is sound for Flash programs in Firefox, but for some reason play won't produce sound when invoked on a .wav file, even though it generates output in the terminal windows as if it were.12:44
jmh09wine runs fine with ubuntu12:44
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jmh09people use wow so i assume you can use wc3ft12:44
pipboymake sure you get the latest version of wine12:44
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fredsahi guys, can anyone tell me what's wrong with this command? Xnest :1 & DISPLAY=:1 gimp12:45
spegelapanOk, how about .exe applications? can linux handle that?12:45
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_w^x_anyone familar with freenet and GNUnet?12:45
jmh09spegelapan wc3 runs perfectly w/o world editor http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=312612:45
lz1gjdi've got some weird issue with my ubuntu dapper install, sometimes when i boot into the desktop i can't play any sound through alsa but gstreamer works. has any1 experienced this and (or)  have an idea how to fix it ?12:46
|thunderwith wine, yep12:46
jmh09it runs some, which ones are you considering12:46
jmh09like a specific program12:46
firehazard17tiny ones work fine12:46
spegelapanlike ventrilo, gg client and so on12:46
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jmh09not necessarily tiny ones, but they do seem to work better sometimes12:47
psticknesysdoc: interesting tool, but this gets even better... the partition seems to have no filesystem on it.12:47
Gun_SmokeMy Disks Manager will not load up.. The wheel just keeps spinning and spinning and spinning..  Any ideas??12:47
ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto12:47
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pipboyAnyone having problems getting their ati card to work?12:47
sysdocpstickne, yea it seems to say that sometimes, I just ignore it and reconstruct the partition table and move on12:48
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto12:48
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RopechoborraIs VMware the same as Wine ??12:48
firehazard17oh others work but a smaller program like a calculator that doesn't have to install is going to work better than a bigger program that has to install like iTunes12:48
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spegelapanwell well, it just have to work, because my oem CD with xp is lost, and cant validate xp with another key, so cant sit here without an updated os12:48
jk_every time i install a package realplayer whats to be isntalled, but fails a the end, it works , how do I stop it from trying to always install12:49
KatmandoRopechoborra:  No12:49
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Pc_Pixelim having a problem getting Dapper to connect to the internet w a nVidia network adapter12:49
webbenif i want to play mpeg-4 embedded in an html page in epiphany/firefox/konqueror what do i need12:49
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mwepopey: the game crashes when I load a scenario :(12:49
cicahi guys... whats the quickest way to start network-manager?12:49
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ubotunetworkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager12:50
Kill_Xwebben: try vlc with the appropriate mozilla plugin12:50
Kill_Xshould work.12:50
webbenKill_X: is that all open source and dandy?12:50
psticknewebben: yes12:51
webbencool :)12:51
pstickneVLC is great.12:51
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firehazard17kills X12:51
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Gun_SmokeMy Disks Manager will not load up.. The wheel just keeps spinning and spinning and spinning..  Any ideas???  Is there a way to do the same/similar thing from terminal???12:51
Kill_Xfirehazard17, lol.12:51
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Pc_Pixelanyone know how to get ubuntu to properly talk to an nvidia network adapter12:52
pstickneGun_Smoke: Disk Manager = Nautilus?12:52
wizzomafizzohow do i make my screen turn off after being idle? I've tried setting it in xorg.conf, I tried messing with the gnome-power-manager settings and when i run xset dpms force off the screen turns off for a second then turns back on. On the other hand the screensave works fine12:52
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Gun_Smokepstickne:  System>admin>disks manager12:52
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Gun_Smokepstickne:  Whoops.. just disks12:53
fredrich1anyone know what might be the problem when the file roller cant open debs12:53
scriztcupsys 1.2.2 ... "# lpadmin -p printer -i interface" fails with Permission Denied. (?)12:53
lz1gjdok, i think i figured this out, seems like from time to time the modules for my usb webcam mic and my creative live! card are loaded in incorrect order. how do i make my sound card module load first ?12:53
gray_foxdoes anybody know irrlicht?12:53
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pstickneGun_Smoke: can most likely do all that using /etc/fstab, cfdisk/fdisk, /proc/partitions, mount, etc. but I've never used it.12:54
Blissexgray_fox: its authors for sure. I remember it is a 3D game engine.12:54
BlueEaglegray_fox: Never met the man.12:54
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psticknelz1gjd: you can test that by using depmod -r to unload and depmod again to reload in the new order you think it should be.12:55
Blissexwizzomafizzo: check out the various DPMS setting. Note that for some drivers they only work in APM mode on some PC and only in ACPI mode on others.12:55
Gun_Smokepstickne:  Me either.. I'm not too good with the command line.12:55
CokeNCodehmmm, is this upgrade automatic12:55
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NthDegreeCokeNCode, it's a CD release so it's covered by updates12:55
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NthDegreeit's equivalent to a fedora unity respin12:56
pstickneGun_Smoke: you've left it running in the background for awhile? (What are you trying to do? -- not that doing it would solve this problem in particular)12:56
wizzomafizzoBlissex: ok i'll check out some options, but this is a really new laptop so I imagine it's acpi based12:56
NthDegreeit's a CD with some of the updates preinstalled12:56
lz1gjdpstickne: ic, but how do i do that on boot ? i mean when the system initializes12:56
gray_foxBlissex: yes....it's a 3d engine, I would to know how to install it on anjuta....do u know?12:56
CokeNCodeNthDegree, oh ok, I was expecting to come home today to find a whole heap up updates to download12:56
Pc_Pixelcould the 6.06.1 possible fix my nvidia NIC problem?12:56
Blissexwizzomafizzo: also 'man xset' to experiment with DPMS from the command line.12:56
CokeNCodei hope it fixes my tv tuner problem :/12:56
spegelapanOne quick question, Do I need to learn alot of codes and lines, or is it easy and like plug and play style? :/12:56
DanaGlz1gjd: look in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base12:56
NthDegreePc_Pixel, it's covered by updates AFAIK12:56
scriztwhy do "# lpadmin -p print -i interface" fail with permission denied ? (cupsys 1.2.2, cupsys-client 1.2.2)12:57
lz1gjdDanaG: thx12:57
Jack_SparrowHow do windows programs running under Wine handle time limits and copy protections12:57
Gun_Smokepstickne:  Yeah it's still spinning the wheel as I type from a while ago... I'm trying to get info about the disk, and cd drive on this machine.12:57
Blissexgray_fox: no, and it is very unlikely anybody here can help with that. It is a very specific question, specific both to Anjuta and Irrlicht.12:57
psticknelz1gjd: no idea how ubuntu is setup, sorry, but easiest to test before. `man modprobe` or `man modules.conf` might provide insight. but then again, ubuntu most likely has its own setup.12:57
DanaGFind out the module for the webcam and make an entry that matches the ones like intel_8x0m12:57
NthDegreeJack_Sparrow, most CD copy-protection fails on WINE12:57
DanaGThe option is "index" -- setting it to -1 makes it give priority to other devices.12:57
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Flannelspegelapan: you mean, to use linux?  It should be fairly easy.  Ubuntu has really nice tutorials and howtos and stuff.12:57
NthDegreeand 30 day trials read through the PC Real Time Clock (RTC)12:57
Jack_SparrowNthDegree: THis one just has a time limit12:58
NthDegreeuh, then it will probably expire12:58
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farousare there anyother utils to mount a linux network folder in userspace other then fuse?12:58
mwe_popey: ping12:58
spegelapanbecause I dont really have time or the interest in learning alot of stuff right now :D12:58
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popeymwe_: pong12:58
gray_foxBlissex: ok...I'll search on google! thx anyway!12:58
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mwe_popey: I downloaded a scenario but it crashes when I load it. do you know how to realese the cursor without leaving the game?12:59
Jack_SparrowNOt worried about WGA12:59
fredrich1ack..no video in totem...only sound...anyone know what might be the cause?12:59
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mwe_popey: did you actually get to play?01:00
popeystarted it, killed it01:00
psticknefredrich1: all types of movies?01:00
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fredrich1Tried divx and mpeg thus far....and i do have the codecs (as far as i know, i got it working before in breezy + automatix)01:01
mwe_popey: I'm trying another scenario. if it doesn't work I'll just ditch it01:01
popeyyou have more time/patience than I01:01
popeygood luck01:01
mwe_popey: It looks cool on the web page01:02
gregg__totem sucks, use vlc or mplayer ;)01:02
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psticknexine isn't bad. it can use mplayer codecs (but for some reason the ubuntu packages are setup so)01:03
faroushi what are the  utils to mount linux network folders. I currently use fuse for mounting in userspace but was interested in knowing if there are other utils prefer over ssh connection01:03
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Troutinatorhi, I'm having trouble getting an NVIDIA card to work with Dapper, is this the right place for help?01:03
hyperstreamit is the correct place01:03
enycTroutinator: essentially right place ;-)01:03
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto01:04
fredrich1same problem in VLC01:04
Troutinatorubotu, been there01:04
enycTroutinator: are you trying to install the nvidia binary driver ??  whats going wrong?01:04
ubotuI know nothing about been there - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu01:04
hyperstreamthere you go Troutinator  follow the link ubotu provided01:04
fredrich1only sound no video01:04
gregg__fredrich1: maybe the file is at fault?01:04
hyperstreamTroutinator, does the nvidia splash screen show up on boot up?01:04
Troutinatorenyc, yeah the binary, well firts off, the livecd won't even boot when I have by bios set to use the nvidia card01:04
fredrich1gregg__, naw, tried several different files to make sure01:04
FlannelTroutinator: which nvidia card is it?01:05
hyperstreamTroutinator, sorry i have no experience with the live cd.01:05
TroutinatorFlannel, Geforce 620001:05
enycTroutinator: im not expert on nvidias01:05
Troutinatorwell, I installed anyways by using the onboard graphics, but I would really like to get my nvidia working01:05
enycinteresting news is that intel has started an open-driver 3d graphics architecture (not needing binary driver)01:06
Troutinatorwhen I boot with the nvidia enabled it hangs on "Loading hardware drivers"01:06
NemesisUKHi, anyone know howto get cups printer sharing working?01:06
Troutinatorif I attempt to boot in rescue mode I get a "Kernel panic" but not a VFS one01:06
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows01:06
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enycTroutinator: hrrm..... particuarly if this is a newer motherboard I would be tempted to update the systew BIOS first.....01:07
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Troutinatorits about a year old, I think01:07
enycTroutinator: and see if the sitiaton changes...01:07
Troutinatorits what ever comes in an HP a1102n01:08
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enycTroutinator: thats what I would try first01:08
Troutinatori guess I can try redoing the bios01:08
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psticknesysdoc: wow, it's found all sorts of crap :(01:09
cry0genbugs <301:09
Troutinatorunder linux how do I find out which mobo I'm using?01:10
psticknesysdoc: the scary thing is ... that they are all marked deleted.01:10
wirelainwell, 24 hours of memtest ... i can pretty well conclude, it's not the ram ... now for hardware motherboard testing.01:10
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sysdocpstickne, cool tools...:)01:11
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TrentI have a question: Should ubuntu be able to support this motherboards audio, graphics, and networking/chipset? http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=K8NGM2-L&class=mb01:12
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baconbaconTrent, did you have a look at !hardware01:12
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psticknesysdoc: when I get to end end, where it says write, it only showed one partition, does this mean "write in addition to" or would that be my only partition afterwards?01:13
TokenBadin ubuntu is there a way to watch RSS feeds?01:13
psticknesysdoc: right now I'm re-running it and logging all the sages O.o01:13
Trentbaconbacon, I have not.01:13
baconbacon!hardware > Trent01:13
AndyCoollTokenbad: There are a number of ways. Within Firefox or Thunderbird. Then there are RSS readers such as Liferea or Akkregator01:14
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mwepopey: fyi I got to play the game01:15
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sysdocpstickne, is there more than one partition? Also, when it writes the partition table it replaces the old one. So, what it sees is what will be written. The disk will no longer be bootable at that point, So you'll have to reinstall grub01:15
jmichaelx i was just trying to upgrade to 6.06.1 using adept and ran into a problem. while installing the downloaded ugrades, it said that kaudiocreator was broken, and then adept crashed. i have since rebooted, but when i try to run adept again, i get an error saying it adept/apt-get is already in use... can anyone help?01:16
psticknesysdoc: it sees one partition! :(01:16
psticknesysdoc: or wants to write one partition01:16
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psticknesysdoc: I have 5 now. (not including extended)01:16
sysdocpstickne, will it allow you to back up the partition table that exists first?01:16
tanlaanI am going to reformat my computer and make it dual boot, mac OS 9 and Ubuntu Dapper. I have a 6 gig hard drive, I want to know how much space should I leave for Ubuntu? I want to use Ubuntu as my main OS. Maybe I should use Mac-On-Linux?01:17
jmichaelxdo i need to use a dpkg command?01:17
ripp3r666anyone know if you can use selinux on ubuntu 6.06 desktop edition?01:17
psticknesysdoc: I did the 'save' but it didn't give me any feedback :x01:17
Trentbaconbacon, Apparently ubuntu only supports my video card.01:17
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tanlaanoops actually I have a 7 gig hard drive.01:17
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hyperstream7 gigs?01:17
hyperstreamthats like old school.01:17
Lattytanlaan: Well, you need about 2GB for the Ubuntu system, and say 1GB of swap, the rest depends on how much data you need to store.01:17
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pstickne1GB for swap is most likely overkill...01:18
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tanlaanhyperstream: hahaha I have an imac G301:18
hyperstreamwhat ever that is :)01:18
hyperstreami know nothing about macs01:18
mweI have about 1G of swap. it's never used at all01:18
tanlaanisnt swap like 700mb?01:18
sysdocpstickne, you may want to do a lil reading first >>http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk01:18
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cry0geni have 4gb of memory01:18
tanlaansay Or less.01:18
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psticknehyperstream: I think it's the one ones in the blue/pink turtle shells :)01:18
cry0genmy swap exists physically on the ram01:18
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psticknesysdoc: thanks01:19
cry0geni made a ramdisk for swap rofl01:19
veritosi'm trying to run a java webstart, and i get sysCreateListenerSocket failed: No such file or directory (on kubuntu 6.06)01:19
mwecry0gen: yeah01:19
tanlaansay Oh and if it matters *which it doesnt* I have 192 mb of ram.01:19
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psticknecry0gen: with 1.5GB I've yet to see swap used... 800-900MB in buffers too O.o01:19
hyperstreamgo build a 'pc'01:19
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mwepstickne: I have 768 MB of ram and swap is hardly ever used01:19
LattyJeez. 7GB of hard disk space? I struggle with allmost half a TB.01:19
baconbaconTrent: maybe the wiki is outdated or incomplete. If it's very recent hw, the only sure way is to try the live/install cd01:20
cry0genLatty: i struggle WITH a TB01:20
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hyperstreamos[Linux 2.6.15-26-386 i686]  distro[Debian testing/unstable]  cpu[1 x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ @ 1.01GHz]  mem[Physical : 1011MB, 81.6% free]  disk[Total : 445.50GB, 41.00% Free]  video[10de:0092]  sound[NFORCE - NVidia CK8041: MPU-401 UART - MPU-401 UART] 01:20
cry0geni got 14 gb left01:20
hyperstreamsame here Latty01:20
scriztcould anyone help me out with this cupsys issue? lpadmin fails on persmission denied when adding a printqueue with a SysV-style interface (local cupsd and lpadmin invoked as root)01:20
tanlaanI only have 1 gb left01:20
Trentbaconbacon, It is pretty recent, nforce4 chipset.01:20
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tanlaanand I have a lot of random crap01:20
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ripp3r666i seem to be having problems getting Net::RawIP to compile :|01:21
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^Z3D^im having troule getting totem to play dvds01:21
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phargleits your v-chip01:22
LattyKind of annoying, even with that much space, as It's formatted as FAT32, I can't get >4GB files on there. Which annoys me if I want a dual layer DVD ISO or backup archives.01:22
MatthewV^Z3D^, have you had a look at !Restricted01:22
LattyThe price I pay for still needing windows access to my data.01:22
Dodzeyis it possible to run a script on Gnome Logout, just before gnoem does logout, or possible just edit the logout script that gnome uses?01:22
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veritosi have a problem also, i'm on kubuntu 6.06, and when i try to run java web start, it gives me the error:01:22
veritosJava Web Start splash screen process exiting .....01:22
veritosSplash: sysCreateListenerSocket failed: No such file or directory01:22
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:22
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mweLatty: yeah. soon linux will be able to safely write to ntfs though01:23
veritosmwe, Latty: have you used ntfs-3g yet?01:23
mweveritos: no.01:23
MatthewV^Z3D^, no probs, any problems with what the RestrictedFormats page has to say, come back here ;)01:23
LattyI know there are ways01:23
veritosmwe, latty: it's perfectly stable01:24
LattyBut they arn't 100%. And I have had way to many problems with Hard Drives.01:24
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Dodzeyso, anyone know which file to edit to run a script on gnome logout?01:24
mweLatty: it's getting close to being safe to write to NTFS01:24
mweveritos: there is a warning not to use it in production systems though01:24
jmichaelx i was just trying to upgrade to 6.06.1 using adept and ran into a problem. while installing the downloaded ugrades, it said that kaudiocreator was broken, and then adept crashed. i have since rebooted, but when i try to run adept again, i get an error saying it adept/apt-get is already in use... can anyone help?01:24
cruel_dogHi, how can I enable windows mewdia videos playing on ubuntu linux? it tells me there is no plugin to handle the stream!01:25
LattyWell, Hopefully I can just switch to EXT3 soon enough. I shouldn't need windows really01:25
DanaGargh, YouTube is broken in Linux.01:25
mweLatty: yeah. I don't have windows on my lappy here either01:25
veritosmwe: i use it all the time, no problems01:25
mweLatty: I have a windows pc for gaming though01:25
MatthewVcruel_dog, see pm from ubotu01:25
Lattyyeah, well, the only game I really play on PC is UT2004, which isn't a problem :P01:26
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mweveritos: that's good. are you doing extensive writing a lot of the time?01:26
lattywareDunno why I had my name cut off, must have had a ghost...01:26
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veritosmwe: i store most of my stuff, including isos etc, on my NTFS system01:26
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mweveritos: it's good to hear it's stable for you. I still wouldn't count on it for a production system with that warning though01:27
HellDragonok, never do a pkill arts* to kill artsd..01:27
lattywareYeah, In the end, storing the >4GB files on NTFS is the easiest way.01:27
DanaGOh, now it's working.01:27
lattywareAs things that size are not often edited anyway.01:27
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veritosmwe: "real men don't keep backups.  they just upload all their stuff onto ftp and let the world mirror it" :)01:28
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lattywareGlad I finally managed to make the switch though, now I can scold my friends using Windows, without being a hypocrit :P01:28
Yashiroi have a problem with wine D:!01:28
mweveritos: no they just cry when they lose everthing 01:29
BlinkerYashiro: maybe you could be a little more descriptive01:29
veritosmwe: no emo comments please01:29
lattywareThere are two types of data, data with backups that are never used, and data that is lost.01:29
mweveritos: emo comments?01:29
Yashirocan i put the error here?01:29
psticknesysdoc: now I just getting .... anyway, according to testdisk there _are no_ superblocks on said partition. wtf :(01:29
Yashiroi have a problem with the sound01:29
lattywareEmo = Wrongly used term.01:29
Blinkerif its more than 2-3 lines, use pastebin01:30
mweveritos: it's a katakana character and Seveas among other is using it01:30
Yashiro ALSA lib seq_hw.c:456:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory01:30
Yashiro*** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer: 0x7c0a2a40 ***01:30
Yashirowine: Assertion failed at address 0xffffe410 (thread 000d), starting debugger...01:30
Yashirothat's my error01:30
ubotu-#ubuntu-offtopic is the katakana character 'tsu' - often abused as smiley by Seveas and a truckload of other copycats 01:30
lattywareI'm glad that uTorrent works through Wine, I havn't found a single torrent client that beats it.01:30
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psticknelattyware: indeed. I'm glad to there that :)01:30
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YashiroBlinker: did u see my error?01:31
riaalIs there any easy ftp server for ubuntu? like webbased and easy to set up acounts?01:31
lattywareI must say though, I've found Linux IRC clients lacking, any suggestions? I'm currently running Konversation.01:31
Blinkerbut i know nothing of wine01:31
Yashiroi use lftp01:32
Blinkerthe point is to ask your question, and if someone knows, they'll help ya01:32
hyperstreamlattyware, xchat?01:32
psticknelattyware: if you get the NON Xchat-GNOME version of Xchat...01:32
Yashirocan sum1 help me with my wine sound problem?01:32
pstickne(don't get xchat-gnome, it's horrid)01:32
lattywareI'll take a look.01:32
Yashiroi get a similar error when i try to play stepmania01:33
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Yashirothe game crashes due to dound problems01:33
lattywareHeh, All the sites talk about the lack of MP3 codecs. I love myself for using OGG for everything :D01:33
Yashiroit says that the sound device is in use, and it can't use it01:33
Blinkerdoes anyone know how to configure/mount iPods under linux?01:33
Yashirothey don't work like pendrives?01:34
ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto01:34
Blinkeryeah I read that. goes over media players01:34
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Yashirois there a guide to connect a nokia 3220 with a dku-5 cable?01:34
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pstickneBlinker: you ought to be able to simply mount it if you just want access to the fs.01:35
Yashiroi tried with xgnokii01:35
pushpopQuestion, When I go to install ubuntu it hangs on Mounting Root File System and Never prints up the partitioner?  I am trying to dual boot with windows Sata Drive is the windows hd and a IDE hard Disk I want to use for Ubuntu ANyone here have any ideas?01:35
valehruAnyone know a good bash scripting tutorial site out there?  I need to open a html file, find a certain tag and create a new html file with that tag inside it?01:35
pstickneBlinker: but that won't do much good for putting on songs.01:35
Blinkerpstickne: thats fine. if i try to sunc now it'll wipe and i'm still gettign around to migrating my collection01:35
pstickneBlinker: once it's plugged in, cat /proc/partitions and see if anything shows up01:35
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands01:35
pstickneBlinker: syncing is only done via the iTunes program.01:36
Blinkerpstickne: banshee and amarok support it as well01:36
letters_9how can I install wine without using apt via the internet (im on dialup and it really sucks dropping out 2 percent from finishing)01:36
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Yashiroif using gnome u can use alt+F2 to open the run command dialog and put xterm01:36
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pstickneBlinker: right, but it's an application-feature, not a filesystem one01:36
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mfuenteshey!, exists packages for the Intel open source graphics drivers ??01:37
Yashiro<letters_9>: u'll need a .deb package of wine, but u may have problems with dependencies01:37
baconbaconletters_9: doesnt apt-get continue download after interruption?01:37
Yashiroapt-get resume downloads01:37
Blinkerpstickne: yeah, theres plenty that shows up. sda's, dm-0-3, and sdb's.01:38
letters_9argh, well to be honest my modem doesnt work in ubuntu at all01:38
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letters_9and I dont want to download it again in anycase01:38
pstickneBlinker: one of the sd*'s will be the iPod01:38
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letters_9no one cares about ppl without proper internet anymore *sob*01:38
Shadow_mil2how do I enable remote login?01:38
pstickneBlinker: then just  mount /dev/sdfoo /mnt (it should auto fine)01:39
pstickneBlinker: then you have access to the fs on the iPod directly....01:39
Yashiro<letters_9>: wut modem do u have? a serial one?01:39
Blinkerwhats the command to unmount?01:39
TokenBadin ubuntu is there a way to watch RSS feeds?01:39
YashiroBlinker: umount01:39
lattywareTokenBad: Use FF or TB.01:40
baconbaconThere are a number of ways to access RSS feeds. Within Firefox or Thunderbird. Then there are RSS readers such as Liferea or Akkregator01:40
Yashirogtg, brb01:40
TokenBadlattyware, ff or tb?01:40
Yashirocya later pl01:40
pushpopQuestion, When I go to install ubuntu it hangs on Mounting Root File System and Never prints up the partitioner?  I am trying to dual boot with windows Sata Drive is the windows hd and a IDE hard Disk I want to use for Ubuntu ANyone here have any ideas? Here is a SS of the error I get after it tries to load filesystem http://www.digitizememories.com/IMG_0960.jpg01:40
letters_9firefox , thunderbird01:40
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TokenBadI have firefox and all it did was show the coding...when tried that01:40
letters_9to add a link go into edit bookmarks01:40
letters_9then there is an "add new live feed"01:41
letters_9paste the link in there01:41
vazcan anyone suggest another bittorrent downloader apart from the one in gnome?01:41
pstickneuTorrent in wine :)01:41
letters_9drag it to the little bar thing so you can click on it01:41
sethkTokenBad, RSS software tends to be buggy on all OSes; it's a relatively new protocol.01:41
letters_9sob, he said Wine01:41
psticknevaz: Azerous (spell) is like uTorrent ... but it's in Java so it's considerablly more resource intensive.01:41
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pstickneAnd the caching of file writes sucked last time I used it.01:42
=== pstickne <3 uTorrent
pstickne150kB of pure no-install goodness01:42
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vazpstickne:cheers and thank you01:43
TokenBadso rss don't like run on a panal so see when it updates?01:43
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pstickneI have only one question... how did installing ubuntu wipe out the data on a partition... completely?01:43
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drbreenpstickne: windows does that everytime you install it ;)01:44
pstickneof course the only data I _wanted_ is only in some .rb/.pl files...01:44
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pushpopQuestion, When I go to install ubuntu it hangs on Mounting Root File System and Never prints up the partitioner?  I am trying to dual boot with windows Sata Drive is the windows hd and a IDE hard Disk I want to use for Ubuntu ANyone here have any ideas? Here is a SS of the error I get after it tries to load filesystem http://www.digitizememories.com/IMG_0960.jpg01:44
psticknedrbreen: no, windows gives you an option01:45
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psticknedrbreen: most of the time I abuse that to install without changing anything01:45
sethkpushpop, try the ide=nodma flag01:45
psticknedrbreen: when I isntalled ubuntu I didn't not touch the partition in question. yet now it's there-but-useless.01:45
drbreenpstickne: the last time i installed win98 it did kill my partitions01:45
harisundpstickne: yes, that is given as an option to reinstall Windows to fix it in case you have broken something in Windows.01:45
TokenBadso there is no like rss feed thing that scrolls based on stuff updated?01:45
pushpopsethk: im kinda new to this world, in english how would one do that?01:45
psticknedrbreen: lol, win98? :) I'm refering to 2k/XP.01:45
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pstickneharisund: I'd rather reinstall the OS then lose data. That's just me though :-/01:46
drbreenpstickne: what did you do exactly ? try to describe your problem plz.01:46
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drbreenpstickne: backups ?01:46
torpedo|dogI'm having problems using fglrx: it seems to Just Not Work. xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2022601:46
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psticknedrbreen: installed ubuntu. when I retarted /dev/hda8 no long contains ext2. better yet, it no longer contains _ANY_ superblocks.01:46
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psticknedrbreen: they aren't that important. just things I'd like. such as settings, files from freshmeat, a few code snippets I was using as tests.01:47
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sethkpstickne, may be recoverable01:47
psticknedrbreen: so, somehow, in the ubuntu process I completely wiped out a partition. Only I didn't do anything which would have affected it.01:47
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Kaiserhaving a little trouble getting Ubuntu to work here01:48
torpedo|dogKaiser: what's the problem?01:48
inc|freakyis ther eany repository which is updated more often and requently than the default repos? clamav is outdated and its virus database cant be updated and other stuff like vim7 isnt in the repos yet. dapper6.06 is a bit "behind" imho01:48
drbreenpstickne: so the filesystm is fsck up (nice pun, aint it funny) ? is it really empty ?01:48
psticknesethk: I've tried testdisk via sysdoc's suggestion.01:48
Kaiserwell it isnt really ubuntu's fault it is trying to get my partitions set up01:48
dm_Hey anyone know a good link for a HOWTO on Compiz install ? i have Nvidea Quadro NVS 120m 256mb graphics card01:48
Kaiseri have tried gparted and qtparted01:48
psticknedrbreen: testdisk and scanning for superblocks returns nothing. manual fishing and trying to e2fsck returns nothing.01:48
psticknedrbreen: yeah, pretty much :)01:48
torpedo|dogKaiser: trying to resize a NTFS partition?01:48
psticknedrbreen: but it's the only partition.01:48
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drbreeninc|freaky: unstable a.k.a. edgy eft ?01:49
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Kaiseri have been told it will work with either of those01:49
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sysdocpstickne, I have an ISo you should try01:49
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Kaiserthe problem is it isnt detecting my hard drive01:49
torpedo|dogKaiser: what worked for me was software called "DiskDrake", on the PCLinuxOS LiveCD01:49
drbreenpstickne: yeah you are fsck i assume. better have backups NeXT time.01:49
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inc|freakydrbreen: im running it on a server i dont want to run unstable01:49
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psticknedrbreen: it's just annoying that somehow ubuntu let this go through.01:49
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psticknedrbreen: that's all.01:50
drbreenpstickne: file a bug.01:50
torpedo|dogKaiser: http://www.pclinuxonline.com/wiki/PCLinuxOSLiveCD and login as root and resize away.01:50
psticknedrbreen: I don't think I can replicate it.01:50
drbreenpstickne: maybe it really is the RARE OCCASION01:50
psticknedrbreen: or if I could I don't care to try.01:50
inc|freakydrbreen: but imho it cant be that a "stable" cant manage to keep the virus scanner up to date01:50
Kaiserit will boot up the partition manager and when it scans devices it will pick up my USB drive and all but not my hard drive01:50
drbreenpstickne: then at least file a bug.01:50
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pstickneI guess this gives me an excuse to reorganize the partions... *sigh*01:51
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drbreeninc|freaky: so you want programs that a distibution based on debian --> unstable <-- does not see as --> stable <-- ? i do not understand.01:51
nooseisloosesomeone ring?01:51
sysdocpstickne, I had the same problem once. caused by ca\hnaging my mind while altering the partitions and not saving the changes. Thinking that I didn't want them saved and wanted to partition in a different way01:51
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torpedo|dogKaiser: what happens if you unplug your USB drive?01:51
Kaisernothing special if that is what you mean01:52
psticknesysdoc: that might very be what happened. *shrug*01:52
Kaiserit isnt a USB hard drive it is a little thumb drive01:52
drbreeninc|freaky: my server is still running kubuntu 5.10 . just for the record.01:52
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inc|freakydrbreen: dapper has clamav in its repositorys, and clamav cant be updated using its virus-db updater, as long as its not the actual version. and clamav in dapper is outdated so the virus-dbs cant be updated. many servers use clamav to scan f.e. eMails going through. and ubuntu is maintaining a server "edition"01:52
sysdocThen I have an iso if you'd like to grab that will at the least allow you to grad the data that you need01:52
torpedo|dogKaiser: well, you unplug it before you boot into everything01:52
sysdocpstickne, ^^01:52
drbreeninc|freaky: then install clamav _manually_ ?01:53
psticknesysdoc: it's only a few text files :P01:53
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inc|freakydrbreen: first i wanted to ask if theres something like debian-volotile for dapper01:53
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inc|freakydrbreen: and thats what i just askedc01:53
sysdocpstickne, well if it isn't critical then nuke the drive and get over it, lol01:53
psticknesysdoc: hey, I have debian and windows installed too ;)01:54
torpedo|dogpstickne: so nuke Windows ;)01:54
psticknetorpedo|dog: it's good on occasion O.o01:54
sysdocpstickne, then you should be able to get the data from debian01:54
BojCould someone take a look at my xorg.conf please? I'm trying to get my resolution at 1024*768 but whenever I try to change it, it just reverts back to 1280*1024.01:54
psticknesysdoc: no, partition that went out was /home :p01:55
sysdocpstickne, that's windohs! BTW01:55
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drbreenBoj: cant you just change it at the gnome GUI ?01:55
letters_9nope no way to do it till I get my new, real, modem it seems01:56
letters_9oh well01:56
sethkBoj, put your X log file on the pastebot01:56
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letters_9im going to build it from source which will leave a .deb package behind01:56
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torpedo|dogCan anybody help me diagnose a different Xorg problem? I'm trying to get fglrx to work and...it's not. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2022601:56
andresmujicawell, maybe ubuntu IS debian volatile01:56
TokenBadok I found rss feed thing....liferea does it for me...thanks folks01:56
jeangood morning to all01:56
BojHow do I put stuff onto the pastebot?01:57
crimsunandresmujica: it's not. :)01:57
sethkBoj, URL is in the channel topic line01:57
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torpedo|dogBoj: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/01:57
sysdocpstickne, if it is critical, like I said I have the recovery tools that will get the data. If not well, you know what to do next...:)01:57
sethktorpedo|dog, we need the X log file, not the xorg.conf (or at least in addition to the xorg.conf)01:57
psticknecan I change the size of the extended partition without affecting the logical partitions?01:57
psticknesysdoc: heh, thanks01:57
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torpedo|dogsethk: okay, one moment01:57
andresmujicai do like ubuntu, in fact i came from gentoo.. and i hope i can stay here for serveral years to come...01:58
z3r0_ddpkg: ../../src/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed.01:58
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harisundHello, what repo do I need to add for the drivers of ATI Radeon Xpress 200M in 64bit Ubuntu?01:58
synth7i saw a commercial saying circuit city would give your computer a "checkup" for free if you brought it in01:58
LyokoTailsIs it possible to make a partition and then share the same free disk space that Windows has?01:58
synth7and im thinking01:58
synth7ill take in my Ubuntu box01:58
TheGameLyokoTails: yes it is01:58
sethksynth7, might be funny, but it's a marketting ploy anyway; they'll tell you why you need a new computer01:58
TheGamemaybe ur asking a different question01:58
synth7sethk: ill laugh01:59
pstickneLyokoTails: if you create a filesystem that both Windows and Ubuntu understand, sure01:59
davebgimpLyokoTails: No, but you could make a shared partition that's FAT3201:59
BojOk found the pastebot, wheres the X log file kept?01:59
andresmujicause fat3201:59
z3r0_dLoyokoTails: or you could resize down your windows partition01:59
sethkLyokoTails, yes.  for read/write access from both OSes, use VFAT01:59
andresmujicaor look for captive ntfs01:59
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TheGamei think hes asking if he can install linux and windows ont he same partition01:59
z3r0_dany ideas what this is? I get it pretty much any time I try to install anything01:59
LyokoTailsWell, does that mean I have to install Win2k again with FAT this time01:59
sethkTheGame, I don't think so.01:59
z3r0_ddpkg: ../../src/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed.01:59
pstickneBoj: /var/log01:59
andresmujicaor you can try a ext3 driver for windows, search google for it01:59
sethkLyokoTails, only if you've used up all your space02:00
sethkTheGame, looks like you were right and I was wrong  :)02:00
LyokoTailsNo, I wanted to make a 2 gig partiton for linux and wanted to use the sam efree disk space as Windows02:00
pstickneThere were some linux distributions back in the day that would install "linux in windows"02:00
andresmujicaLyoko, maybe you can try colinux, it's a windows driver that hosts linux inside windows02:00
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sethkLyokoTails, if it is unpartitioned space, make it a vfat (==fat32) partition02:00
LyokoTailsI have heard of that02:00
sethkLyokoTails, then both windows and ubuntu will be able to read and write to it02:01
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sethkLyokoTails, in windows, just create a new partition and tell it to be FAT, not NTFS02:01
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sethkLyokoTails, then ubuntu (or any other linux) will be able to read and write to it after you mount it (and/or add it to your /etc/fstab, which tells the OS what partitions to use)02:01
BojErm, there doesn't seem to be any text in my X log?02:01
sethkLyokoTails, is that what you were asking?02:02
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sethkBoj, not likely.  X has started and then shut down?02:02
z3r0_dBoj, /etc/X11/Xorg.0.log ?02:02
LyokoTailsI was thinking of going to Kubuntu and wanted to keep Windows that is why I'm asking02:02
sethkz3r0_d, /var/log, not /etc/X1102:02
z3r0_derm, I got that wrong02:02
TheGameyes lyoko u can do that02:02
z3r0_dyeah, thanks sethk02:02
torpedo|dogsethk: http://pastebin.ca/12586702:02
TheGameu can have two separate partitions02:02
Kaiserif i defrag my hard drive will the ubuntu gparted work with NTFS partitions and not explode it02:02
TheGameone for linux and one for windows02:02
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sethkLyokoTails, if there is empty space on the disk, you can do it.  If you've already used the entire disk, you would have to shrink the windows partition with something like gparted02:03
TheGameand both can share files but u wont be able to write to windows unless it is fat02:03
torpedo|dogKaiser: parted almost never explodes anything02:03
sethkLyokoTails, or you can add a second hard drive to the box02:03
z3r0_dKaiser, it's worth backing up regardless02:03
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Tutterif u got windows now, get partition magic and reparition your hd02:03
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torpedo|dogit tries not to explode things as good as it can. But backups are ALWAYS good.02:03
LyokoTailsI have Partition Logic, will that help?02:03
sysdocPartition tragic?? LMAO!02:03
BojYeah I'm looking at the Xorg.O.log in /var/log and theres nothing on it?02:03
Kaiseri think i have partition magic 602:03
Tutterpartition magic worked fine for me02:03
LyokoTailsCan't get Partitoon Magic02:04
Tutterhas never failed me yet.02:04
LyokoTailsDon't have money02:04
sethktorpedo|dog, remind me, what is your problem again?  I know I asked you to paste your log file, but I don't remember what we were talking about  :)02:04
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torpedo|dogsethk: trying to get fglrx to work ;)02:04
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sethkLyokoTails, gparted is free and does more or less what partition magic does02:04
Centaur5How can I be connected to dial up and still be able to browse network folders?02:04
PupUsere7dd6cHello, I hope no one minds a ntfsprogs question.  Does anyone know how to do an integrity check on ntfsclone?02:04
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andresmujicahey, i've got a win2k qemu guest inside my ubuntu, but i'm noticing a 100% cpu usage at the guest  anyone knows if is something normal?02:04
LyokoTailsBut gparted is for linux only02:04
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drbreenLyokoTails: BUT it is on life cd !02:05
torpedo|dogLyokoTails: you can use the LiveCD02:05
rsklife cd02:05
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LyokoTailsLive CD you mean02:05
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drbreenlife <-> live stupid me02:05
sethktorpedo|dog, according to the log, fglrx is working02:05
calmatorylife cd :D02:05
inc|freakydrbreen: why are you using ubuntu as OS on your server?02:05
jordanauif killall fails, what is the next step to stop a process02:05
sethktorpedo|dog, I would tell it to not use the frame buffer02:05
LyokoTailsNo Big Deal, Thanks02:05
drbreeninc|freaky: b/c debain stable is old and outdated and ubuntu is new and fresh ?02:06
mcphailjordanau: kill -9 PID02:06
baconbaconkillall FAILS?02:06
torpedo|dogsethk: doesn't seem like it: fglrxinfo reports "OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org"02:06
sethkdrbreen, debian stable is stable02:06
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drbreeninc|freaky: b/c it is the distro of the month ?02:06
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sethktorpedo|dog, that's not an error02:06
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LyokoTailsAnyone got a Ubuntu Collection going on?02:06
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inc|freakydrbreen: dunno but i was happier with debian etch02:06
sethkdrbreen, debian has the other two varieties if you want something more up to date02:06
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baconbaconjordanau: kill -KILL (pid)02:07
tanlaanI am confused, I am trying to install something and it said that it expects perl to be in my path. What does it mean by in my path?02:07
jordanauwhat will that do02:07
sethkdrbreen, stable is supposed to mean that the world is pretty sure everything works as expected.02:07
BojYeah, there isn't anything in the Xlog files. Would it be easier if I just msg'd you the section of my Xorg.conf, whoever wants it atleast.02:07
sethktanlaan, your execution search path02:07
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inc|freakyubuntu-server is really not better than debian etch02:07
torpedo|dogsethk: where do I tell it not to use the framebuffer?02:07
drbreeninc|freaky: it was more or less _no_ rational decision. i tried out several distros and ubuntu stayed.02:07
inc|freakyboth on a server02:07
sethktanlaan, but that isn't your problem, because if perl is installed then it is in your execution search path02:07
baconbaconjordanau: send KILL signal to the process withi PID (pid)02:07
visik7anyone know an howto about unattended installations ?02:07
pushpopQuestion, When I go to install ubuntu it hangs on Mounting Root File System and Never prints up the partitioner?  I am trying to dual boot with windows Sata Drive is the windows hd and a IDE hard Disk I want to use for Ubuntu ANyone here have any ideas? Here is a SS of the error I get after it tries to load filesystem http://www.digitizememories.com/IMG_0960.jpg02:07
sethktanlaan, so probably you should look at installing perl.02:07
serionHi, hey, i have a small problem, how can I make my server see all 4 GB of RAM?02:08
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drbreensethk: i know what stable means. but ubuntu is fany and stylish ;)02:08
tanlaansethk: ok, just wanted to make sure I wasnt doing something wrong.02:08
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serionit can only see and use 800MB02:08
drbreensethk: fancy02:08
HeXiOnanyone here knows about LIRC?02:08
inc|freakyim really dissapointed with the server version of ubuntu02:08
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sethktorpedo|dog, I do it with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:08
drbreensethk: what are these other 2 debian flavors ?02:08
torpedo|dogsethk: okay, thanks02:08
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inc|freakydrbreen: testing and unstable02:08
ubotuI know nothing about unattended - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu02:08
sethkdrbreen, one is testing, and the other is ... somebody remind me02:08
ubotuI know nothing about kickstart - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu02:08
ubotuI know nothing about autoinstall - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu02:09
inc|freakysethk: unstable02:09
sethkinc|freaky, thanks02:09
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jordanaumcphail, baconbacon, thank you02:09
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drbreeninc|freaky: i liked ubuntu server.02:09
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LyokoTailsBut Ubuntu Server does'nt have ebverything the original install has, does it?02:10
HeXiOnin LIRC, irxevent only works for CurrentWindow, not specifying an application, anyone knows how to correct that bug?02:10
dm_Can anyone help me with COMPIZ??02:10
mcphailjordanau: np. Now go and try "killall" on a solaris machine ;p02:10
crimsundm_: have you checked #ubuntu-xgl?02:10
dm_crimsun didnt know it existed02:10
drbreensethk: but i somehow expect ubuntu to have more nail polish... ok, i started learning linux/unix stuff with slackware but sometimes everything becomes too much... and then, you're happy b/c it works...02:10
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BojYeah, there isn't anything in the Xlog files. Would it be easier if I just msg'd you the section of my Xorg.conf, whoever wants it atleast?02:11
drbreensethk: and in the same time you can show off the fancy features and reccomend it to your fellow matees.02:11
sethkdrbreen, there is no doubt in my mind that debian is harder for a new user to install and configure.02:11
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PerkinsWould someone here happen to know where Ubuntu mounts SMB shares when you use the desktop tools?  Or does it fake it somehow?02:11
LyokoTailsAnyone use Torrent Programs for legal purposes02:11
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sethkdrbreen, and it works quite well out of the box.  However, I wait two months after the release of a new major version02:12
mcphailLyokoTails: many of us obtained our ubuntu cds via bittorrent02:12
sethkdrbreen, So I'm still on Breezy, and having no problems.  After others have found and ironed out all the v6 problems, I'll upgrade.02:12
drbreensethk: i heard from a skolelinux dev that debian is easy to install for a chicken. you should put enough wheat on the enter key, though ... ;)02:12
LyokoTailsI guess 'm the only Shipit user then02:12
drbreensethk: like i said, my server is on breezy too.02:12
sethkdrbreen, ubuntu is very good about not making you sit there and press enter02:13
sethkdrbreen, I agree with you there.02:13
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PerkinsSo, I can't seem to find where the bloody thing is mounting my SMB shares...  Which is a problem when you have a program that needs a path...02:14
drbreensethk: cause sometimes problems are there with major releases - the kubuntu dapper printer disaster (tm) angered some of my friends - to the point where they were considering windows again - luckily they kept ubuntu w/o me brainwashing them.02:14
BojAnyone able to help me with this pesky resolution problem, my eyes are really starting to hurt.02:15
sethkPerkins, mount (with no arguments) shows you what is currently mounted02:15
LyokoTailsIs there a colinux channel anywhere02:15
drbreenPerkins: why dont you type 'mount' in the console02:15
drbreenBoJ: you have gnome ?02:15
mzuverinkAnyone know why the option to do a lamp install is no longer available on the server install iso?02:15
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BojI think so02:15
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Perkinssethk:  I tried that, it doesn't show up.  Does Ubuntu perchance fake the mounting somehow?02:16
zaneI am having a bit of trouble installing ubuntu at the moment, I have searched and searched all over the internet but have found no solutions so here is my problem: I try to install ubuntu but it says it can't detect devce, I have to either choose from a list of drivers or install from disk. I have tried multiple cd romm drives and made sure that the computer was seeing them in the BIOS. has anyone encountered this problem here?02:17
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sethkPerkins, no, if it is mounted it will show up in the mount output, type smbfs02:17
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NemesisUKPerkins, what have you used to mount the shares?02:17
sethkzane, try disabling dma02:17
marshelp me02:17
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zaneI will try that now, thanks02:17
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marsmy ati02:17
marsno run02:17
eternaljoyhow can I stop popup windows from firefox?  I have popup disabled, but some popups still occur? ANY solution please?02:18
marshelp me please!!!!!02:18
zanesethk, is that an option you specify when you go to hit ENTER at the first boot screen?02:18
BojBut I have tried changing it through System --> Preferences --> Screen resolution to no avail.02:18
Bojeternaljoy, get adblock extension for Firefox.02:19
MecubusI have a question about tpb (the on-screen display). I've followed the install guide on the forum and i've got it to work. But after the screensaver go activated the on-screen display doesn't show. I've tried restarting the computer, reinstalling TPB but it won't work now.02:19
sethkzane, right.  hit f1, and find the info about diabling dma02:19
sethkzane, it's in the help; I forget exactly where02:19
PerkinsNemesisUK:  The connect to Server in the Places menu.  Only it doesn't seem to actually mount the drive anywhere, it just uses it.  Wondering if I need to mount it from the command line instead.02:19
Black_Bishopeternaljoy:  You might be getting flash popups.  Get the adblock extension and if you really want to stop everything, the flashblock extension.02:19
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marsmy ati no run02:19
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marsonly terminal02:20
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marsno display gdm02:20
NemesisUKPerkins, yeah mount them from the cmd line, or if their permanent add them to fstab02:20
pstickneis there a way to install ubuntu using the normal CD _without_ going through the _painful_ live CD process?02:20
marsonly terminal02:20
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PerkinsNemesisUK:  Thanks.  That's what I needed to know.02:20
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mcphailpstickne: use the alternate cd02:20
psticknemcphail: gah. lame.02:21
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sethkpstickne, confusing question, since that's the purpose of the normal CD02:21
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sethkpstickne, or did I miss something?02:21
psticknesethk: no, cool would be "expert install" boot option on normal cd.02:21
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psticknesethk: it takes 20 minutes of nothing and doing the same thing multiple times to get everything up.02:22
zanesethk, this option is in brezzy badger5.10?02:22
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sethkpstickne, I think that you can probably do it.02:22
sethkzane, yes02:22
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sethkzane, it is a kernel command line flag, I believe   ide=nodma02:22
sethkzane, look for "booting on unusual machines" or some such language02:23
zanesethk, yep, I see what you mean... now I just have to test it02:23
sethkzane, sorry I don't remember the real wording.  Hit f1 at the prompt; hopefully it won't be terribly painful to find.02:23
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sethkzane, it has a chance of working.  Does this box/cd run properly with windows?  that is, do we know the hardware is good?02:23
sethkzane, you said you've tried more than one cd drive, but there is still a possibility of a hardware error, on the mobo for example.02:24
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zaneyeah, it does run in windows, I have also just replace a faulty hard drive in it and at the same time i ran tests on the other hardware... it is all fine02:24
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sethkzane, also, check that the drive jumpering matches the ide cabling and interface.  I've seen a lot of people get into trouble that way.  Make sure that if the cable connecting to the cd drive is an EIDE cable, the drive is jumpered for cable select02:25
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sethkzane, an EIDE cable has a blue connector, black connector, and grey connector02:25
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GNAMUBUNTU 6.06.1 OUT!02:26
sethkzane, an (not extended) IDE cable has three black connectors; in that case you jumper with master and slave.02:26
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free02:26
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zanesethk, damn! I think that is the problem... also I do know about ide cables and such as I am a pc tech... but I suppose I just wasn't using my head! lol02:27
mike-eanyone good with troubleshooting sound?02:27
sethkzane, it's an easy thing to overlook.02:27
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GNAMmore than 300 bugfixes updates in ubuntu 6.06.102:27
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eternaljoyhow can I install the adblock extension for Firefox?02:28
morlahi. i have opera installed from cannonical's commerc. repo. now how do I update to v9.01?02:28
torpedo|dogeternaljoy: http://addons.mozilla.org/02:29
eternaljoyBlack_Bishop: where I get the flashblock extension?02:29
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eternaljoytorpedo|dog: cheers!02:29
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torpedo|dogeternaljoy: you're welcome :)02:29
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torpedo|dogdpkg is asking me questions about my monitor's refresh rate...I think I'm on DVI, so...should I just leave it as-is?02:29
hellokthuluhey -- the image on my monitor is off by about two pixels to the right... any clues?02:30
Black_Bishopeternaljoy:  In firefox, go to the top menus Tools>Extensions and then lower right hand corner, "Get more Extensions"02:30
hellokthuluLEFT!  I meant left.  Ooops :-)02:30
sethkDVI still requires refresh rate02:30
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torpedo|dogsethk: just leave it the way dpkg already has it?02:30
torpedo|dogD'oh, It wasn't refresh rate, but vertical/horizontal sync02:30
sethktorpedo|dog, as long as it correctly identified your monitor02:30
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torpedo|dogsethk: goodo02:31
cartur25hey guys, I'm trying to partition my disc with qtparted but i get "Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed02:31
cartur25" - any ideas?02:31
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BojCould someone tell me whats wrong with this please. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2023102:31
nalioth cartur25 did gparted open?02:31
naliothcartur25: er, qtparted?02:31
sethkcartur25, are you running it as root?02:31
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cartur25yes but the option to create a partition is greyed out02:31
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Poromenoswhat's the difference between nv and nvidia drivers?02:31
naliothcartur25: try 'kdesu qtparted'02:31
cartur25yes, in the terminal i entered: gksudo qtparted02:31
rsknv open source nvidia binary closed source02:31
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sethkcartur25, you are root but that option is greyed out?  I've only seen it greyed out when not run as root02:31
neutrinomassPoromenos:  nv is the open source driver AFAIK, nvidia is nvidia's binary blob02:31
sethkcartur25, odd02:31
naliothcartur25: actually, it'd be better to do it from a LiveCD02:32
hellokthuluAnyone know how to get 'ssh' to work?  It's in /etc/services...02:32
cartur25I am in live cd right now02:32
Poromenosi changed it to nvidia but it's telling me it can't find the kernel driver02:32
jrib!ssh > hellokthulu02:32
Poromenosany ideas?02:32
neutrinomass!nvidia > Poromenos02:32
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sethkPoromenos, nvidia is an add on driver you download from nvidia's web site02:32
hellokthulujrib -- ???02:32
Black_Bishopeternaljoy:  Scratch that.  Here is the link:  https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/433/02:32
Poromenossethk: not apt-get?02:32
sethkPoromenos, the free driver for nvidia is called nv02:32
neutrinomassPoromenos: Follow that guide. It worked for me ...02:32
jribhellokthulu: check your private messages from ubotu :)02:32
Poromenosneutrinomass: i've done that :/02:33
cartur25nalioth: I get command not found when entering "kdesu qtparted"02:33
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Poromenos"nvidia-glx is already the newest version."02:33
sethkcartur25, try /usr/bin/kdesu02:33
Poromenosyet "nvidia" doesn't work02:33
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naliothcartur25: do you have kubuntu?02:33
sethkPoromenos, do lsmod, make sure the nvidia kernel module is loaded02:33
sethkPoromenos, if not, do  modprobe nvidia02:33
cartur25sethk: Do you have any code to get into qtparted as root? I'm trying "gksudo parted" and it's still greyed out02:34
torpedo|dogsethk: one last xorg.conf thing: if dpkg added a bunch of Tablet PC-only stuff to my xorg.conf, can I safely comment it out? I don't have a tablet ;)02:34
TheGamehow do i set ctrl alt del to open system monitor02:34
cartur25nalioth: I'm using Ubuntu02:34
Poromenossethk: Module nvidia not found02:34
sethkcartur25, I just run it as root.    try, in a terminal, running sudo -i,  then at the next prompt run qtparted02:34
BojTrying to get my resolution to go go at 1024*768, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20231 That is what I've done so far but to no avail.02:34
sethkPoromenos, ok, then it isn't properly installed for the kernel that is running02:34
OtavioRibeiroPoromenos: are you using X.org?02:34
Poromenossethk: hmm, any ideas what i could do? it was running fine a reboot ago02:34
naliothcartur25: then type "gksudo gparted"02:34
PoromenosOtavioRibeiro: i think so, i'm running the X that came with ubuntu02:35
PoromenosBoj: delete the 1280x1024s02:35
sethkPoromenos, you didn't update the kernel, or boot a different kernel at the grub prompt?02:35
OtavioRibeiroPoromenos: use --x-module-path=/usr/lib/xorg02:35
mike-enalioth: can you think of any way to get ubuntu to recognize and use my ISA pnp Sound Blaster sound card? I added the sb module to etc/modules, I can get sound when playing files through vlc, gnome-volume control works fine and isn't marked as muted (i can toggle it and hear the feedback) however double clicking on mp3's gives me the 'no sound card detected' prompt and system sounds won't play etc02:35
cartur25sethk: how do I undo "sudo -i" (for later)?02:35
sethkcartur25, exit02:35
Poromenossethk: i didn't update it that i know of (unless there was an update) and i'm booting the normal entry at grub02:35
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mcphailmorla: i know nothing about the commercial repo, but the versions in "deb http://deb.opera.com/opera etch non-free" seem to work.02:35
OtavioRibeirothe nvidia driver install by default inside the X11R6 directory02:35
zanesethk, I changed the jumpering to cable select and tried that without the dma option set and it still gave me problems, I now going through the option to the and find this dma thing (I am tryung to boot the live ubuntu first before installing)02:36
BojOk, Poromenos, i'll try that. THankyou02:36
PoromenosOtavioRibeiro: use that what?02:36
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PoromenosBoj: np02:36
naliothmike-e: i'm not very good with sound (my box uses the pc-speaker for sounds :0 )02:36
PoromenosOtavioRibeiro: err, use it where?02:36
sethkPoromenos, You would have had to do a kernel update, so if you didn't, then you are running the same kernel.  Unless you did a major upgrade that includes a new kernel02:36
OtavioRibeiroPoromenos: when installing nvidia official drivers!02:36
Poromenossethk: i don't think so02:36
PoromenosOtavioRibeiro: hmm, i just apt-got nvidia-glx02:36
morlamcphail: is this the newest version, reallest a few days ago?02:36
Poromenosit ran fine yesterday, then i rebooted today and it was gone02:36
cartur25sethk: I am logged in as root, after typing "gksudo qtparted" i get "(gksudo:8372): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:02:36
Poromenosi installed xgl/compiz btw02:37
naliothcartur25: did gparted open?02:37
sethkcartur25, ah, good, that shows that, before, you were _not_ root02:37
mcphailmorla: wait and i'll check the version number...02:37
cartur25nalioth: no02:37
naliothcartur25: i recommend a LiveCD02:37
eternaljoyI installed adblock extension for Firefox and restarted Firefox! However, there are still popups that occur!  ANY solution please?02:37
cartur25nalioth: I am on a live cd right now02:37
mcphailmorla: version 9.0102:37
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sethkcartur25, start a terminal, and do:     xhost +02:37
Poromenosi removed nvidia-glx and installed it again and it's still not found :(02:38
morlamcphail: superb! thanks02:38
naliothcartur25: that explains it.  just type sudo gparted02:38
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Poromenosmy kernel is02:38
sethkcartur25, at the sudo -i prompt, make sure that DISPLAY is set to :0.002:38
Poromenos2.6.15-26-386 apparently02:38
Poromenoscan i use xgl with nv?02:38
mcphailmorla: remember - non-standard repos are at your own risk...02:38
Poromenosor is that not recommended?02:38
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morlamcphail: opera has a build-in update mechanism, but i'm unsure if i can use it when i got it via aptitude02:39
cartur25sethk, after "xhost +" i get xhost:  unable to open display ""02:39
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Poromenosi'll try to fix the resolution as well, brb02:39
neutrinomassPoromenos: Currently XGL is not recommended and many devs advise against it as it has broken systems ...02:39
Poromenosoh hmm02:39
cartur25nalioth, sudo gparted results in terminate called after throwing an instance of 'Glib::OptionError'02:39
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mcphailmorla: i think the repo i mentioned above will keep the latest version02:39
Poromenosit's quite the eye candy though02:39
cartur25nalioth, note i am using qtparted not gparted02:40
naliothcartur25: did you just burn your LiveCD ?02:40
sethkcartur25, you are doing that in a new terminal, not the one you did sudo -i, correct?02:40
Poromenosah well, brb02:40
cartur25sethk, sorry ill do in new terminal02:40
morlamcphail: well i'll try it02:40
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cartur25sethk, that code in new terminal results in - access control disabled, clients can connect from any host02:40
sethkcartur25, you have to do it as the logged in user.  then in the sudo -i terminal,  check that DISPLAY is set correctly02:40
sethkcartur25, good02:41
naliothsethk: he's using a LiveCd, all that shouldn't be necessary02:41
morlamcphail: thanks02:41
installinhi!  I had to use the linux ide=nodma in my boot options to install ubuntu, but it installed (despite the unchangeable & rather huge screen resolution problem) but now when I load it from grub (dual os boot setup) it hangs again- can someone help?02:41
sethknalioth, it's necessary the way he is running qparted.  Makes no difference that it's a live cd boot02:41
sethkqtparted, sorry02:41
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sethkinstallin, did you add the ide=nodma to your grub config, or add it at the grub prompt?02:42
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cartur25sethk, is there an easier way to make a partition to install xp on? will the xp installation allow me to easily partition my linux partition and install windows on it?02:42
sethkinstallin, you are going to have to track down why that's necessary, as it's a performance killer to use ide=nodma02:42
installineh...I used the prompt-  I can't even get into ubuntu.  I'm not even sure how to use the grub.02:42
dasoswhere would ii find the grub configuration utility?02:42
installinyeah, grub isn't talking the ide=nodma now02:43
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sethkcartur25, you can use windows to create a partition and then change it's type in linux, but you might as well just create it in linux.  Or did I misunderstand the question?02:43
redbladesHi, I'm making a presentation, and I need an ubuntu icon, that it semi transparent, or just a very subtle out line, and it must have transparent back layer too.02:43
redbladesDoes anyone know of such an image?02:43
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sethkinstallin, probably a kernel option or possibly a kernel module needs to be loaded, that supports your IDE chipset with dma02:43
derrickhhi all, i'm trying to install xserver-xgl but get an error stating i have unmet dependencies, libxfont1 and libxcompsite.  i tried installing libxfont1 errored saying it was refered to another package but was not avaiable.  any advice?02:43
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installinsethk - I'm an XP user who is just now making the switch - I know nothing of what you speak :)  lol.02:44
installinI dont know the language yet, persay.02:44
installin<-- hardware newb, linux newb, afraid of command lines.02:44
cartur25sethk: Right now I have only linux on my hard drive. I want to partition the hard drive so I can load win xp. Is it possible to partition my hard drive even though linux is already installed on it during the win xp install ?02:44
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installincartur25 I was told to do a dual boot you should install xp first, THEN ubuntu02:45
xehi use ubuntu02:45
xehand i love i02:45
scrappy_installin: hit esc at boot to get to grub menu and hit e to edit the first option then scroll to the second option with kernel and stuff listed hit e again to edit and add the ide=nodma hit enter then hit b to boot ---i think02:45
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cartur25installin, that's not an option here02:45
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zaneargh! So I have set cd rom to cableselect, entered in ide=nodma when installing and I still ge the message "Your installation CD-ROM couldn't be mounted" Does anyone have anymore ideas?02:46
sethkcartur25, only if you have free space.02:46
installinok, so when it gives me the OS selection prompt, I hit esc,  and edit the "root.." line? with the ide=nodma line?02:46
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sethkcartur25, if you used the entire drive for linux, you'll have to shrink a partition to make room for windows.02:47
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sethkcartur25, windows sometimes has problems if it doesn't boot from /dev/hda102:47
gnomefreaksethk: you ever try to debug aptitude by chance?02:47
scrappy_installin: you basically highlit whatever you want to edit and hit e02:47
hellokthuluThis must have been asked 1e06 times already :-) but I just saw that Ubuntu 6.06.1 is out... am I auto-upgraded to that?02:47
eternaljoyI installed adblock extension for Firefox and restarted Firefox! However, there are still popups that occur!  ANY solution please?02:47
installindoes it matter where I put the nodma line, though?02:47
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hellokthulueternaljoy: I've used Privoxy to great success...02:48
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gnomefreaketernaljoy: check in your prefferences02:48
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eamoncHey, I'm having trouble getting torrents of the ISOs. Are there any known issues with the tracker?02:48
scrappy_installin: just put it at the end should be fine you can remove that quiet splash if you want02:48
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eternaljoygnomefreak: prefs in forefox you mean?02:48
BojWahey, 1024*768. Now my retinas will no longer be burnt. Thankyou all :D02:48
gnomefreaketernaljoy: yes02:48
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cartur25sethk, how can i shrink my linux partition, specifically my /dev/hda1 partition to make space for a winxp partition? (what program? - will winxp installation be able to do it?)02:49
installinawesome, let me go try it real quick- I've been doing this ALL DAY today, and all night last night.02:49
Flannelcartur25: use GParted.  windows won't be able to.02:49
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eternaljoygnomefreak: block popup windows is ticked already02:49
cartur25Flannel: I'm using qtparted but im having a real hard time02:49
gnomefreaketernaljoy: restart ff than02:49
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Flannelcartur25: try Gparted02:49
hellokthulueternaljoy: some sites use flash for popups, it defeats firefox02:49
eternaljoygnomefreak: yet when I use mail.com there are still popus when I login to my account!  Why?02:49
nrdbHi I am looking for a good Tycoon type game for linux any recomendations?02:50
xehcartur25, partition magic02:50
eternaljoygnomefreak: its been restarted already! yet still popups02:50
derrickhhas anyone been able to watch any videos off of YouTube?  they are forcing a new version of flash.02:50
sproingiehellokthulu: scriptblock is nice for those02:50
gnomefreaketernaljoy: dont know i dont use ff much unless im testing02:50
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eternaljoyhellokthulu: ok! so whats the solution?02:50
eternaljoygnomefreak: what do you use?02:50
hellokthuluwish I knew :-)02:50
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gnomefreaketernaljoy: links202:50
eternaljoyhellokthulu: LOL02:50
eric__I was hoping somebody could help this newbie compile a tarball.02:50
eternaljoygnomefreak: whats links2?02:50
gnomefreaktext browser02:50
hellokthulueric__ -- which one?02:50
BojIs anyone using the 1.5.x.x version of firefox on Ubuntu?02:50
eric__I have the source code for the latest version of gnucash.02:50
eternaljoygnomefreak: no grapgics?02:50
hellokthuluBoj: here02:50
Supremacyok, i need help.. trying to bring over my thunderbird profile from xp into ubuntu02:51
eric__I downloaded it and extracted all of the files onto my desktop (why not?).02:51
Flannel!tell eric__ about compile02:51
gnomefreaketernaljoy: nope there is a graphical mode on it but not like ff its still tested02:51
hellokthulueric__ : yah, I usually make a new dir and 'tar xvf ../foo.tar' there02:51
Bojhellokthulu, Would it work ok on an amd64 processor?02:51
nrdbSupremacy: Done that a while ago maybe I can help02:51
zanehas anyone here had any problems with installing ubuntu and ubuntu saying that it has failed to mount your cd-roma drive?02:51
hellokthuluBoj: No clue, sorry.02:51
eric__I do ./configure and I get "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"02:51
Supremacyas long as you can remember how you did it02:51
BojOk i'll give it ago02:51
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nrdberic__: did you install build esentials?02:52
Supremacyseems my xp had three different profiles of it02:52
eternaljoygnomefreak: can it display all websites?02:52
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cartur25flannel: what is the difference between gparted and qtparted02:52
Supremacybut only one profile folder seems to contain the emails and blogs that i do need02:52
Flannelcartur25: theyre entirely different programs02:52
gnomefreaketernaljoy: no02:52
scrappy_derrickh: i just tried and i can view fine02:52
eternaljoygnomefreak: install links2 ?02:52
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scrappy_derrickh: have an example url?02:53
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gnomefreaketernaljoy: sure02:53
gnomefreakbrb got something weird i need to fix02:53
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nrdbSupremacy: you will need to find exactly where those are stored on the XP HDD in "user data" or something like that.02:54
Bojwhats the command for unpacking tar.gzs in ubuntu?02:54
installinrock on.  I got a successful boot02:54
eric__OK.  I got 1/2 step further.  I type './configure INSTALL' - a bunch of stuff happens and I get the error "configure:error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool'.  Am I missing a dependency?  Help!02:54
Supremacyi used Backup4Win and put it on a cdrw02:54
installinnow...a couple more questions...one being...02:54
cartur25flannel: should I download the program or the gparted livecd02:54
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Flannelcartur25: is ubuntu installed on hda1?02:55
installinHow can I find out why it hangs on without the nodma thing?  someone said it was a performance killer??02:55
jriberic__: apt-get build-dep gnucash, may help you.  But for XML:Parser perl, you need libxml-parser-perl in particular02:55
cartur25yes with the swap on hda502:55
Flannelcartur25: then you'll have to use the liveCD, since you can't resize a partition while it's mounted02:55
nrdberic__: look like it you will need to install that perl module first.02:55
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eric__nrdb:  Thought I did.  Lemme look.02:56
nrdbSupremacy: can you read the individual files from the backup?02:56
cartur25flannel: i'm on an ubuntu livecd right now and qtparted is still not working - is it because qtparted is a poor program?02:57
installinHow can I find out why ubuntu hangs when mounting the root filesystem without the nodma line?  someone said it was a performance killer?02:57
nrdbSupremacy: I don't have any XP computer I can't check where the files are.02:57
Supremacydoesn't matter, i have them on a cdrw now02:57
nrdbSupremacy: what email system where you using on XP?02:57
eric__nrdb: According to Synaptic, I have the latest version of perl installed (5.8.7-10ubuntu1), as well as perl-base.  There are some other perl things I could install, like -byacc, debug, doc.02:57
Flannelcartur25: I prefer GParted myself.  Never used QT-02:58
nrdberic__: you might have to install the module manually I don't know much about perl modules to tell if it is in a package.02:58
SupremacyBackup4win copied everything that was in Profiles folder and put it on a cdrw02:59
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nrdbSupremacy: good02:59
cartur25flannel: after i boot from gparted livecd what will happen?02:59
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eric__nrdb: I hope you are wrong.  I'll let you know in a minute.02:59
nrdbSupremacy: there will be a directory with a 'Mail' directory somewhere there.02:59
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Supremacyyes, i see that on the rw03:00
Flannelcartur25: you can resize your disks03:00
nrdbSupremacy: has it a weird name?03:00
jriberic__: did you try the package I mentioned?03:00
cartur25flannel: do i need to run umount and swapoff or will they be already unmounted by booting from live cd03:00
blabitanyone in here wanna show me how to add flash media player to firefox?03:00
Supremacyyeah, it's in a folder with random letters and numbers03:00
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jrib!flash > blabit03:00
eric__jrib: Sorry - what package?03:01
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blabitJrib, what does that mean?03:01
IRCi just installed schooltool. what is the adress i have to type in firefox to go to it?03:01
jriberic__: apt-get build-dep gnucash, may help you.  But for XML:Parser perl, you need libxml-parser-perl in particular03:01
Supremacythere's three folders of random letters and numbers, but only one has Mail in it03:01
nrdbSupremacy: what is the name of the directory below that one?03:01
jriberic__: libxml-parser-perl is the package03:01
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jribblabit: check your private messages from ubotu :)03:01
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Supremacyok, here's how it is: CDRW->Thunderbird->Profiles->ruwtzlxu.default->Mail03:02
eric__jrib: installing that one now.03:03
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Supremacyand in the Mail folder are all the groups and emails that i had on that Thunderbird in XP03:03
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Supremacyeach group though being seperate folders03:03
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dasosblabit, flash in FF? just search for flash in synaptic, make sure you have "show unsupported software" checked off03:03
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eric__jrib: Got farther this time.  Now I get "Invalid configuration 'INSTALL': machine 'INSTALL' not recognized configure: error: /bin/sh ./config.sub INSTALL failed'.\03:04
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blabitdasos.......what is synaptic?03:04
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cartur25Do I need to download and install the dependencies of gparted if i am running off the gparted livecd?03:04
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dasosblabit, Applications -> Add/Remove...03:05
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nrdbSupremacy: you need to copy the directory "ruw..." to the ".mozilla-thunderbird" directory and edit .mozilla-thunderbird to reference the new directory.03:05
jriberic__: not sure what that means, you did the apt-get build-dep gnucash command?03:05
eric__jrib: No - Lemme try that.03:05
nrdbSupremacy: that edit .mozilla-thunderbird/profiles.ini to reference it03:06
jriberic__: that should install all the dependencies needed for building the version in the repositories03:06
eric__jrib: installing a whole mess of stuff ...03:06
Supremacyhold on a sec03:06
Supremacycopying over now03:06
yossmanhmm, annoying.  why is it not possible to rename printers03:06
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yossmani get this sometimes under win32 and it drives me nuts.03:06
yossmani just installed the PDF printer using the postscript driver and cups-pdf, for eg03:07
yossmanand i can't rename it to 'pdf printer'03:07
Jman888How do i change where a proftp user gets logged into03:07
yossmanin fact i can't rename any of the printers i have installed03:07
blabitdasos, got synaptic up....how do install flash?03:07
dasossee that search box in the top right?03:07
dasostype in 'flash'03:07
eric__jrib: Getting the same error now.03:07
valehruAnyone here familiar with sed?  I want to delete lines 15 - 17 in a text file...whats the command?03:07
eric__jrib: Got farther this time.  Now I get "Invalid configuration 'INSTALL': machine 'INSTALL' not recognized configure: error: /bin/sh ./config.sub INSTALL failed'.\03:07
blabitdasos.....did so, which do i chose?03:08
Daishiok im really freaking out now i KNOW Xorg is running at 60hz for my laptops lcd monitor...but gnome and xfce say its 61hz and i wouldnt be worried but i keep seeing quick 'blips' horizontal lines03:08
Daishilittle flashes03:08
jriberic__: not sure then, sorry03:08
Supremacyah, nice03:08
dasosblabit, you may have to check the "show unsupported applications"03:08
nrdberic__: did you try just "./configure"03:08
Supremacythat method worked03:08
dasosblabit, it is under the application window03:08
blabitdasos, I don't see that.03:08
CalcMaster86 ok, i've been messing with my ethernet card for a while... and can't get it to be autodetected... it's a dlink dfe 550tx, and i'm pretty sure it uses the sundance module... i've modprobe sundance, and that works fine, however, it still doesn't detect the card03:08
dasosblabit, right in the middle of the screen03:09
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Daishiis 61hz bad for a lcd monitor?03:09
Daishiwhen its supposed to be 60?03:09
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nrdbSupremacy: so it all up the way you want ?03:09
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eric__nrdb: BRILLIANT! ./configure was the way to go.03:09
eric__nrdb: now for MAKE.03:09
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Supremacysort of03:09
nrdberic__: good :)03:09
holycowCalcMaster86, i don't think that card is supported ... *hmm*03:09
blabitdasos, got it, thank you03:10
CalcMaster86 well, d-link says it's supported in red hat enterprise03:10
Supremacybut i think it's right03:10
Jman888Hello? How can i get a proftp user to use a certain directory03:10
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Supremacyjust doesn't show the emails in the lower plane03:10
dasosblabit, no problem, lots of fun software in there too, take a look, uninstalling extra stuff is as easy as unchecking it and hitting apply03:10
CalcMaster86 holycow: i couldn't get it working in fedora core either though03:10
holycowCalcMaster86, ah so you seem to be correct, i remember having issues with dlink and stopped using them.03:11
nrdbI am looking for a good tycoon type game, is there any recomendations?03:11
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SupremacyRoller Coaster Tycoon03:11
ZambeziHow can I extract compressed zipfiles in exe-format in terminal?03:11
CalcMaster86 holycow: heh, i've kept d-link because of failures with other brands... windows of course though03:11
eric__nrdb: I have to admit, I'm feeling pretty dim right now.  Make has no make targets.  Do I just say 'make'?03:11
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nrdberic__: generally, is there a README file?03:12
smackyhow do i do ipconfig in a terinal ?03:12
CalcMaster86 holycow: threads like this one: http://www.justlinux.com/forum/showthread.php?t=59447&highlight=sundance say to disable PnP in the bios... which i did... funny thing though, whenever i start up the machine, it says the bios is disabled03:12
xehHow do i get permission to write to certain files where would i 'login' kind of thing03:12
nrdbsmacky: that ifconfig03:12
eric__nrdb: Yes, but it's not helping.03:12
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CalcMaster86 when xp use to be installed on the machine, it never said that03:13
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BlueEaglecalcmaster86: Which D-link card are you using?03:13
BlueEaglecalcmaster86: (ie what does lspci call it?)03:13
CalcMaster86 dfe-550tx03:13
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CalcMaster86 um...03:13
nrdberic__: by not making any targets what did it say.03:13
CalcMaster86 blueeagle: what should i type to find that out?03:13
eric__nrdb: Aaah.. Should have read better.  Readme says it uses GNU Automake .. ?\03:13
BlueEaglecalcmaster86: That needs either the 8139too module or the tulip module or the via-rhine module. Don't remember which.03:13
CalcMaster86 i'm a newbie for installations and hardware installs03:13
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jribxeh: I don't really understand what you want, can you be more speicific?03:14
nrdberic__: what do you get with "make --version"03:14
BlueEaglecalcmaster86: to install these modules do the following: sudo modprobe 8139too && sudo modprobe tulip && sudo modprobe via-rhine03:14
EnsignRedshirteric__: Try make with no arguments.  The configure command should have set it up to work.03:14
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Supremacymy gxine doesn't give sound anymore.. hmm03:15
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BlueEagledoes modprobe take multiple modulenames anyone?03:15
BojDoes anyone know how to install Flash 8 on firefox?03:15
CalcMaster86 ok, i get no errors03:15
rmw75how can you mount a windows partitons.... I have one drive, partion with windows and the default partitions installed with ubuntu03:15
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eric__nrdb: GNU Make 3.81beta403:15
jribBoj: flash 8 hasn't been released for linux, not will it be I believe03:16
Jman888can somebody help me with proftpd03:16
jribBoj: s/not/nor03:16
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BlueEaglecalcmaster86: Good. Now type: ifconfig03:16
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BlueEaglecalcmaster86: do you get an entry for eth0 ?03:16
Boji mean 703:16
nrdberic__: good,  what was the command you used ?03:16
xehjrib, i am trying to install flash player by manually dragging the plugins into the firefox plugins folder and i get an error message saying "Error while copying to "/usr/lib/firefox/plugins". You do not have permissions to write to this folder."03:16
DrakkonI just need help on installing wine-o.9.1703:16
jrib!flash > Boj03:16
dibblegowhere do you configure how long a terminal is idle before needing to sudo again?03:16
CalcMaster86 blueeagle: lsmod shows the modules are there, ifconfig just shows the loopback device03:16
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dibblegoxeh, use sudo03:17
BlueEaglecalcmaster86: ok. The number after each network module is it always 0 or does one of them read 1 or greater?03:17
jribxeh: why not use the package to install flash?03:17
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nrdbdibblego: you can use the command "sudo su -" for a perminent root login03:17
dibblegonrdb, yes I know03:17
CalcMaster86 blueeagle: yup, all four of them are 003:17
shawnI did a dapper install but the default X config might have the refresh rate too high, so now I'm in rescue mode but don't know offhand where the x config file is03:17
EnsignRedshirtdibblego: According to "man sudo", the time limit is in the sudoers files (/etc/sudoers).03:18
BlueEaglecalcmaster86: Ahh, yes. It will be. Hang on I'll check to see how to go about this. :)03:18
dibblegoEnsignRedshirt, thanks, I must be blind03:18
nrdbshawn: /etc/X1103:18
xehdibblego, "ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the03:18
xeh       Macromedia Flash Player installer.03:18
xeh" is what i get thru sudo03:18
CalcMaster86 blueeagle: thank you!03:18
BojI get the same Xeh03:18
dibblegoxeh, seems pretty conclusive to me03:18
xehthis is the pants of society trying to install flashplayer03:18
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yaniscan't I used k3b to burn audio cd from mp3s?03:19
farousis there is a howto for mounting nfs?03:19
shawnok there is no /etc/X1103:19
shawnany other place it might be03:19
Drakkonanyone have knowlage what dir wine needs to be to install?03:19
riddleboxisnt there a way to make firefox tell sites it is ie 6.o or higher?03:19
shawnit's a dapper server cd that I used03:19
shawnif that makes a difference03:19
Drakkonyea plugins riddlebox03:19
dibblegoriddlebox, there is a plugin03:20
BlueEaglecalcmaster86: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart03:20
BojYou won't find /etc/X11 on the CD shawn03:20
riddleboxdo you gues happen to know what plugin it is?03:20
Bojits only there once you've installed it onto your HDD03:20
redbladesHi, how do I change my home directory?03:20
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nrdbshawn: there is on mine !03:20
jribxeh: there isn't a 64bit flash afaik, you might want to look into setting up a chroot and use the 32bit.  Or consider just using 32bit ubuntu if you are really into multimedia03:20
BlueEaglecalcmaster86: then run ifconfig again and see if you've got an entry for eth003:20
Supremacyspeaking of firefox, i have the current flash plugin's installed and everything, but everytime i go to a site that has flash, it tells me that i need to install the plugin.. ???03:20
shawnI'm looking at the installed drive03:20
bsdfoxcan anyone advise me on using amarok to copy album covers to my ipod?03:20
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ubotunfs is the network file system. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.03:20
redbladesI need to make sure that when I login it knows I'm actually using a different directory, instead of just me using a folder.03:20
jribSupremacy: how did you install it?03:20
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shawnI booted in rescue from cd because once it got into what I presume is ubuntu's default X login my monitor stopped working03:21
Drakkonok somone plese answer mine so I can get rid of the dreaded windows lol03:21
farousis there a reason i can not send a pm to the boot ?03:21
Supremacyfirefox fails on automatic, but used synaptec to install the packages03:21
CalcMaster86 blueeagle: nope, it did some stuff though, all error flags when it was finding the eth's... ifconfig just shows the lo03:21
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Drakkonits driving me batty03:21
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shawnso from rescue I mounted the drive I just installed03:21
Supremacytried firefox's manual, and not even that worked03:21
shawnand I go in /etc and see no X1103:21
mr_daemonHey is it me or 1) /etc/init.d/nfsmount.sh is gone 2) network mounts in fstab are not being obeyed to?03:22
BlueEaglecalcmaster86: Hmm..03:22
Supremacyhere's an example site: http://www.corwin.ca/gridlock/03:22
farous!nfs > farous03:22
jribSupremacy: 'apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree | grep -i Installed'  <-- what does that say if you put it in a terminal?03:22
nrdbredblades: i think the location of the home direcitory is in /etc/passwd03:22
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BlueEaglecalcmaster86: lspci|grep Ethernet03:22
BlueEaglecalcmaster86: what does that line read?03:22
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BojSo am I right in saying that if you have a AMD64 processor you can't have Flash?03:22
CalcMaster86 nothing03:22
nrdbredblades: you could also have two different login names.03:23
riddleboxdibblego, do you happen to know the name of the plugin?03:23
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zanehas anyone had these installation problems? I try to install ubuntu but it says that it can't mount the cd rom drive after asking me for my language, keyboard and country info03:23
CalcMaster86 blueeagle: it just returns me back to the prompt... didn't do anything03:23
dibblegoriddlebox, no idea, google probably does03:23
bsdfoxBoj: you can install a 32-bit firefox to get flash support03:23
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BlueEagleOh, really?03:23
BlueEaglecalcmaster86: lspci03:23
blabithow can i play windows media files in firefox?03:23
mr_daemonWhy are NFS shares not mounted at boot regardless of what you do?03:23
BlueEaglecalcmaster86: and look for something that looks like your network card in the list there.03:23
blabitmpg, avi's and such?03:23
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:23
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BlueEaglecalcmaster86: Please do not paste all the lines in here.03:24
Supremacysays that03:24
redbladesnrdb, no I don't wnat, don't have two login names.03:24
Supremacyis that not the current one?03:24
jribSupremacy: yes, that is correct.  Are you running ubuntu Dapper?03:24
Drakkonmr daemon you need a emulator ...i think lol I just need help on installing wine03:24
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Supremacylatest ubuntu03:24
secleinteerdoes any1 know the difference between "firefox" and "firefox %u" in a launcher command?03:24
CalcMaster86 blueeagle: i couldn't paste all the lines in anyways, since i'm working on a different computer... pci bridge, isa bridge, ide interface, usb cont, host bridge, multimedia audio, raid, modem, vga cont... that's it03:24
Supremacyoh, yeah.. my bad03:24
Drakkoni have 6.06 LTS supremacy03:25
Supremacyshould have looked at the free disc03:25
jribSupremacy:  what does this say: 'ls -l /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/*flash*'03:25
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Boj"At present, there is no non-free flash implementation available for 64-bit processors (or Mac) because the manufacturer does not support them." Which manufacturer is that?03:25
BlueEaglecalcmaster86: Just to be on the safe side here: Are you in the installtion environment or have you got ubuntu installed?03:25
Supremacyit's 6.05 lts03:25
mr_daemonDrakkon: Uh.. no, NFS as in, the file sharing protocol, not the game03:25
Supremacyer, 6.0603:25
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CalcMaster86 blueeagle: ubuntu is installed03:25
farousanyone know how to mount a sshfs03:25
Supremacyls: /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/*flash*: No such file or directory03:26
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Supremacywhat do i need to do to fix that? obviously that's wrong03:26
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT03:26
BlueEaglecalcmaster86: I see.03:26
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BlueEaglecalcmaster86: an no ethernet controller listed by lspci?03:26
CalcMaster86 blueagle: nope03:26
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jribSupremacy: k, the files didn't get install then.  you should have /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/flashplayer.xpt and /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so.  Run 'sudo update-flashplugin' and see if it completes succesffuly03:26
farousJack_Sparrow: if it is for me i need to auto mount a linux sshfs03:26
CalcMaster86 blueeagle: i'm pretty sure the pci slot is working, the card's lights light up03:27
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BlueEaglecalcmaster86: It is a PCI card right? Not the old ISA standard?03:27
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Jack_Sparrowfarous: No idea...03:27
BlueEaglecalcmaster86: :)03:27
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farousJack_Sparrow: thanx for trying to help :)03:27
smackyi love putty03:28
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Jack_Sparrowfarous: I use diskmounter for my windows drives..03:28
Supremacydoesn't seem to do anything03:28
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Supremacyor maybe it did03:28
CalcMaster86 blueeagle: i'm not sure what ISA is, i don't think i've lived that long to know about it03:28
secleinteerdoes any1 know the difference between "firefox" and "firefox %u" in a launcher command?03:29
Jack_SparrowCalcMaster86: DO you know what type of card or preferably the chipset it uses03:29
gili need help with i need help setting up a network03:29
Supremacyls -l /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/*flash*03:29
Supremacylrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 44 2006-08-10 21:28 /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/flashplayer.xpt -> /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/flashplayer.xpt03:29
CalcMaster86 blueeagle: the box says it's a pci adapter03:29
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jribsecleinteer: %u lets you drag links to the icon and they wil open03:29
Ronzhey, im not getting any sounds from flash....anyone have an idea?03:29
gili got a shared folder that i am trying to share with a windows machine03:29
tripppyis anyone running a sunray client off ubuntu?03:29
Jack_SparrowCalcMaster86: isa is original 8 bit card, followed by eisa then pci and agp and pci-e03:29
Supremacyyep, that worked03:29
jribSupremacy: only one file?  Is the program still runnning?03:29
CalcMaster86 jack_sparrow: it's a dfe-550 tx made by d-link, i think it uses the sundance driver03:29
gilwhat is the login and password03:30
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Supremacyls -l /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/*flash*03:30
Supremacylrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 44 2006-08-10 21:28 /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/flashplayer.xpt -> /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/flashplayer.xpt03:30
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mr_daemonAnyone here running dapper can tell me if they have the file /etc/init.d/mountnfs.sh?03:30
Supremacynah... i only did the first three lines03:30
mr_daemonIt's not on my system...03:30
Supremacylooks to be two?03:30
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bcrongil: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605&highlight=samba03:31
Supremacyflashplayer and libflashplayer03:31
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jribSupremacy: k, close all firefox windows, then start it up again and test flash03:31
Supremacyi did, gridders worked03:31
jribSupremacy: k, great03:31
fishyI. Broke. Sudo. I can't access any devices in my computer - CD, USB flash drive, etc. except the partition Ubuntu is installed on. How do I go about fixing this?03:31
fishysmacky: What'd ya want?03:31
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jribfishy: how did you break it?  What errors do you get now?03:32
fishyjrib: I dunno how I did. Plugged my USB flash drive in one day. "Could not read blah blah - permission denied."03:32
Supremacywell, time to find another virus program, aegis virus scanner keeps wanting to do an update, despite doing one03:32
fishySame with CD03:32
racefireI have a problem03:32
CalcMaster86 blueeagle: after googling ISA, i'm certain that the network card is a pci card03:32
jribfishy: does 'sudo echo hi' return "hi"?03:32
toddobryanHi all. I managed to install onto a machine using the alternative install CD. But now, when I boot from the hard drive, I get to the point where X should start and everything goes dead. The monitor goes black, and the keyboard is unusable. Even hitting Caps Lock or Num Lock fails to turn on the lights on the keyboard.03:33
toddobryanBut I've made progress!!!03:33
racefirehttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=232219 is the page where you can read about my problem03:33
jrib!ask > racefire03:33
fishyjrib: Yeah, it does03:33
racefireI don't understand you, jrib03:33
jribfishy: what does the 'groups' command return?03:33
jribracefire: I had ubotu send you a message, but you can ignore it now03:34
mr_daemonAnyone? Can anyone justcheck if /etc/init.d/mountnfs.sh is there?03:34
Jack_SparrowCalcMaster86: The easy/cheap solution is to drop in a card from the !hardware list03:34
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Gun_SmokeIs there anything I can run to "bench" test this system?03:34
jribmr_daemon: it is here03:34
fishyjrib: "steven audio"03:34
racefireHuh? I didn't receive a message.03:34
CalcMaster86 !hardware03:34
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ubotuI know nothing about Gnash - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu03:34
mr_daemonjrib: Dapper?03:35
racefireI don't think, anyway. I'm using gaim.03:35
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BlueEaglecalcmaster86: I'm sorry but I cannot see why your network card isn't listed in lspci03:35
jribfishy: that's why you don't have access to a lot of stuff.  Here are the groups I am in, you may want to research them and see what they mean: adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip www-data src video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin03:35
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nbagud morning room03:35
CalcMaster86 alright, thanks guys for your help03:35
fishyjrib: How do I get access to these groups?03:35
Jack_SparrowCalcMaster86: Did you post your lspci to pastebin?03:35
nbaneed help pls03:35
nbahow to use logitech webcam in ubuntu?03:36
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ubotuwebcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras03:36
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage03:36
CalcMaster86 no, it's on a totally different computer... i could type out all the output of lspci in pastebin if you want03:36
jribfishy: adduser user_name group_name, will add user_name to the group group_name.  www-data you may not have, because that is for apache03:36
toddobryanSo, can I stop the X Server from trying to run so that I can at least have command line access?03:36
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Jack_SparrowCalcMaster86: Come back when you have it... Id hate to have you do all that..03:37
racefirejrib, I didn't receive your message.03:37
racefireI still don't know what to do.03:37
Jack_SparrowAre you anywhere near the west US coast?03:37
racefireoops, i did.03:37
jribracefire: my message was just telling you to go ahead and ask you question to the chat03:37
racefireI just read it. Sorry.03:37
CalcMaster86 jack sparrow: actually, you know what, my floppy drive is working on it... hang on... and i'm in utah03:38
toddobryanBoj: Have you tried installing Flash using Automatix?03:38
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Jack_Sparrowtoddobryan: Bad word bad work... Not Automatix...03:38
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jribfishy: so you know, the usermod command will let you add multiple groups at a time03:38
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Bojtoddobryan, no03:39
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BojI've been attempting to understand all this Gnash stuff03:39
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jrib!flash > racefire03:39
racefireThanks, jrib.03:39
toddobryanJack_Sparrow: It does look rather unpolished, but it seemed to do what it was advertising. Should I be looking for anything scary?03:39
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fishyjrib: Where can I find a list of these groups?03:40
Jack_Sparrowtoddobryan: Every day we get people in here who have trashed their install.  It woks 95% of the time...03:40
mr_daemonIs anyone mounting NFS shares at boot here? At all?03:40
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Jack_Sparrowtoddobryan: Same as easyubuntu03:41
mordofwhy is the ubuntu dvd so much bigger than the ubuntu cd?03:41
toddobryanJack_Sparrow: Ahhh. Thanks for letting me know that. I have a class full of high school students who will be installing Ubuntu at home soon. I'll tell them to stay away.03:41
mordofwhen there is only 1 cd03:41
jribfishy: I gave you a list :P  I'm not sure where the default groups are documented03:41
jordanauJack_Sparrow, it cooks japanese food too?03:41
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Jack_Sparrowjordanau: as so ... yes it do..03:41
toddobryanThat is, of course, if I can figure out how to get it working in my lab. :-)03:41
fishyjrib: Does that list give you access to USB flash drives?03:42
toddobryanSo, everything goes dead. How can I stop the boot sequence before that all happens.03:42
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Jack_Sparrowtoddobryan: When they come here and we walk them through it they LEARN something in the process03:42
jribfishy: yes, i believe plugdev is responsible for that03:42
BojHave the ubuntu team though about getting a Nelson Mandella voice for Festival?03:42
Evzi cant install anything on Ubuntu03:42
EvzO don't know how03:42
jordanauJack_Sparrow, yeah easy ubuntu was trouble for me, i did a reinstall on my system for other reasons and decided to do the short route, bad idea, took  a while to get java back up and running03:42
fishyjrib: Thanks.03:42
EvzIm tired of this03:42
jrib!synaptic > Evz03:42
fishyThings are working groovy now.03:42
toddobryanJack_Sparrow: I meant stay away from Automatix. Not this chat room.03:43
CalcMaster86 jacksparrow: ok, pasted to pastebin03:43
Jack_Sparrowtoddobryan: Give them a fish they eat for a day, teach them to fish they eat all their life03:43
Jack_Sparrowtoddobryan: I know03:43
jordanauEvz, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper03:43
Jack_Sparrowtoddobryan: So did you install and where are you at with it..03:43
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toddobryanAnd give them Windows and they give you stupid excuses about how their machine got a virus or crashed and they couldn't do their homework. :-)03:44
mordofquestion: i'm looking into downloading ubuntu for my laptop (acer aspire 5612WLMi) and i'm not sure why the dvd release is so much bigger than the cd release.. shouldn't there be like 3 or 4 cds?03:44
jribfishy: np03:44
fishythat's all, ta03:44
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Evzi think im gonna give up03:44
EvzI don't understand...03:44
Evzi gonna delete linux forever03:44
jribmordof: the dvd just has more packages, so you don't have to download them if you want to install extra stuff03:44
jordanauEvz, what do you want to know specifically03:44
racefireGreat! Flash is working great now!03:44
smackyhow are u to learn if you give up ?03:44
racefireThanks jrib! You're the best?03:45
racefire*You're the best!03:45
toddobryanJack_Sparrow: I installed from the alt CD. That seems to have work. I can boot from the hard drive, but when X should start, everything goes dead. I can't even Ctrl+Alt+Fkey, because the keyboard no longer responds.03:45
jribracefire: ha, np03:45
toddobryanJack_Sparrow: And, before you ask, it's a PS2 keyboard.03:45
Evzfirst install gstreamer or xine. something that can let me hear my mp03:45
Jack_Sparrowtoddobryan: and why the alt cd?03:45
mordofjrib, is there a part of the site that lists what packages are in the dvd?03:45
jordanauEvz, okay03:45
toddobryanJack_Sparrow: Because the same thing happened with the install CD.03:45
jribmordof: I don't know03:45
dell500anyone know anything about norton ghost? or some kind of pre-os bootup tool for backing up large amounts of data from HD to USB-HD?03:45
Jack_Sparrowtoddobryan: Some people just see server and think it must be better..03:46
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jordanauEvz, give me a sec here and i will assist you03:46
Jack_Sparrowtoddobryan: So you do have a live cd std there?03:46
toddobryanJack_Sparrow: People suggested I go ahead and install it, and then I'd have a shot at getting it to work.03:46
CalcMaster86 jack_sparrow: by the way, i did try using d=link's installation instructions... however, there were several files that it couldn't find in the default directory... i located some, there were files with the same name (but they looked different) in different places, and others, the files were missing03:46
Jack_Sparrowtoddobryan: Is this a lappy or desktop?03:46
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RancidPickledell500 > acronis true image03:46
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toddobryanJack_Sparrow: Desktop. And I have both the Alt and Live CDs.03:46
bsdfoxdell500: acronis migrateeasy is the best... you need to pull the drive outta the USB enclosure though03:47
jordanau /msg nickserv set unfiltered on03:47
rdemanowI need to configure GDM so that the xscreensaver daemon is launched when the user selects a WindowMaker session, but not when a Gnome session is selected. Where do I invoke xscreensaver to make this happen?03:47
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mordofjrib, if i'm on an intel 64 bit dual core, do i just use the i386 version? it's the only one besides the amd64 one03:47
Jack_SparrowCalcMaster86: compiling drivers is not as easy as they would have you believe...03:47
RuarriSdoes compiling from source code have any benefits over installing from a package?03:47
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dell500bsdfox, well i don't have anymore SATA spots...03:47
TheGameanyone know how to set ctrl alt del to open system monitor03:47
sproingieRuarriS: only if you have to change something in the source03:47
Jack_Sparrowtoddobryan: does the live cd boot to a menu start or install with other options?03:47
toddobryanRuarriS: Not unless you want to tweak something.03:47
CalcMaster86 jack_sparrow: yeah, especially when you don't know that much of c... i only know fortran03:47
rskRuarriS: yes some, like building for your system, meaning faster.03:47
jribmordof: if you want to use the 32bit version of ubuntu, then yes, the i386 version is what you want afaik03:48
mordofso then is there no intel 64 bit version?03:48
Jack_SparrowCalcMaster86: $10 on a good linux card is money well spent.03:48
sproingiemordof: yes there is03:48
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CalcMaster86 heh, alright03:48
rdemanowTheGame:  You can set your Xorg or XFree86 conf file to trap CtrlAltDel to execute whatever command you want03:48
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bsdfoxdell500, if you've got 2 you should be able to work it.03:48
CalcMaster86 !hardware03:48
mordofwhere can i download it? it's not on the website...03:48
ubotuAMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.03:48
mordofi'm not on amd03:48
mordofi'm on intel03:48
sproingiesame thing03:48
toddobryanJack_Sparrow: It boots to the normal menu. And gets pretty far before it dies.03:48
sproingieyou on an itanic?03:48
RuarriSwell if i dont see an ubuntu package for a project, can I always compile from source?03:48
Jack_SparrowWhat is up with the bot and the hardware link03:48
rskitanic lol03:49
dell500bsdfox, that's the reason why i'm backing up... i have 2 spots for my sata raid0 setup, i need to back that up to my USB sata drive...03:49
mordofan itanic...03:49
CalcMaster86 jack_sparrow, is the hardware trigger suppose to work?03:49
Jaykulhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/AHO8yM50.html <-- help ... my drives are moving.03:49
bsdfoxmordof, use AMD64.. it's the same03:49
CalcMaster86 ok, so you see it also03:49
Jack_Sparrowtoddobryan: Ok, so one more question03:49
sproingiemordof: no itanium.  amd64 == emt6403:49
bsdfoxnon-itanium intels use AMD6403:49
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jribTheGame: or you can set it up using gconf-editor, if you want a quick walk through just join me in #ubuntu-classroom03:49
sproingiepersonally i stick with 32 bit on my desktop even though i have an amd6403:49
Jack_Sparrowtoddobryan: DO you have the cmos/bios set to usb2 and do you have and usb devices plugged in?03:49
mordofi'm on the aspire 5612WMLi core duo03:49
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sproingieit's still blazing fast and more stuff like flash works03:49
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bsdfoxdell500, ahh.. you can do it in knoppix03:49
Jack_Sparrowsproingie: goos choice03:49
sproingie64 bit for servers is the way to go tho03:50
dell500bsdfox, knoppix?03:50
toddobryanJack_Sparrow: I have no idea, and no, respectively.03:50
bsdfoxas long as you install a 32-bit firefox you are in good shape with amd64 on the desktop03:50
mordofi have no idea of i'm on an itanium.. didn't even really know what those were03:50
JaykulDoes anyone know how my hda can become hdb during the bootup?03:50
bsdfoxdell500, or ubuntu livecd.. whatever03:50
toddobryanJack_Sparrow: I'm not sure it supports USB2. The mobo is from about 2000.03:50
sproingiebsdfox: yeah but then you have to maintain this parallel 32-bit world03:51
bsdfoxmordof, you aren't03:51
Jack_Sparrowtoddobryan: Check the bios and set to 1.1 for now... and here are some boot options to try at the grub menu after hitting F6 Grub Boot Options ide=nodma vga=normal nomce acpi=off pnpbios=off xdrvr=vesa xres=800x600 apm=off quiet not all at once..03:51
mordofamd64 it is then...03:51
smackyJack_Sparrow when u get asec can u help me plz03:51
bsdfoxsproingie, not at all03:51
ubotuI know nothing about festival - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu03:51
sproingiebsdfox: on ubuntu, pretty much03:51
rdemanowI need to configure GDM so that the xscreensaver daemon is launched when the user selects a WindowMaker session, but not when a Gnome session is selected. Where do I invoke xscreensaver to make this happen?03:51
sproingiebsdfox: unless multiarch apt became a reality and i didn't notice03:51
Jack_Sparrowsmacky: Please define the problem for me while he does that03:51
RuarriSbsdfox: as i remember installing 32 bit firefox was hell if 64 bit firefox was already installed03:51
bsdfoxit took me less than 5 minutes03:52
RuarriSbut i'm a linux newb03:52
sproingieRuarriS: works fine.  you just use a chroot03:52
ubotuI know nothing about festival - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu03:52
toddobryanJack_Sparrow: Thanks. I'll give those a try.03:52
smackyi get these errors Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu03:52
ubotudpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.03:52
Jack_Sparrowsmacky: the repos have been hammered03:52
smackyhammed meaning ?03:53
Jack_SparrowUbuntu has become very popular03:53
Jack_Sparrowtimeouts etc..03:53
jbroomeThe Sun is Bright03:53
Jack_SparrowThere was a bot info on it but I dont know the trigger..03:53
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Jack_SparrowYOu can query the bot or keep trying03:54
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Jack_Sparrowtoddobryan: are you still here...03:55
Jack_Sparrowtoddobryan: Also suggest you have the cd check itself for errors...03:55
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CalcMaster86 ok jack_sparrow, i give up, off to buy a supported network card at best buy03:56
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Jack_SparrowPeople, it has been fun, but it has also been a long day.  Hope all your troubles are small ones..03:56
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Jack_SparrowCalcMaster86: Wish I had a better answer03:56
rdemanowany GDM configuration gurus out there?03:56
CalcMaster86 see you later jack, thanks for your help!03:56
illvarg-xgli have a problem with flash, i get no sound. what am i supposed to do?03:56
jrib!flash > illvarg-xgl03:56
ubotuI know nothing about GDM - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu03:57
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.03:57
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:57
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thebishopanyone playing World of Warcraft on Ubuntu?03:57
rskthebishop: i am03:57
dell500how do you use the live cd to backup hard drives?03:57
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thebishoprsk: it runs on my laptop, but its a bit slower than on windows03:58
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thebishoprsk: you know any performance tweaks?03:58
rskthebishop: nope03:58
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thebishoprsk: what gpu you got?03:58
rskfx 570003:58
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RuarriSthebishop: are you running it in wine? or how?03:59
drtwhat is the best solution for strong encryption on a hdd that can be decrypted and read/write in both windows and linux?03:59
thebishopRuarriS, yeah, the newest wine runs it pretty well03:59
rskdrt: truecrypt03:59
PyromaniakCan someone please help me get my wine working again?03:59
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drttruecrypt? i'll look into it03:59
thebishopRuarriS, but intel 915 chugs on it a bit, but if you have a better gpu its probably fine03:59
drtfat32 i would imagine would be what i want to format03:59
wirelainPyromaniak: <sarcasm> It's hard to get the O2 out once wine has spoiled ...04:00
RuarriSthebishop, yea i got a x2 4200, but using the 32bit ubuntu04:00
dasosthebishop, if i wanted to get wow on ubuntu, would it be easier to install from the disk in wine, or to get a directory copy from a windows partition?04:00
Pyromaniakwirelain: lol =P04:00
thebishopdasos, i installed it fresh on ubuntu04:00
JaykulI have a problem with harddrives .... at boot i mount hda1 on /  ... but after boot, that drive *moves* to hdb1  (you can see that here: http://rafb.net/paste/results/AHO8yM50.html)04:00
bsdfoxdell500, you need an exact image? or just a copy of all the data04:01
PyromaniakI'm not sure what happened.. but wine just "stopped" working... the server opens, and so does the windows application.. but I get no window to show for it04:01
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thebishopdasos, add the Winehq repo to your sources.list, and get the newest version, and when the installer asks for the next disc, use "wine eject <cdrom letter here>"04:01
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dasosthebishop, that's it? no special patching or anything?04:02
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_priestare there any other quake style consoles for gtk besides tilda?04:02
toddobryanJack_Sparrow: acpi=off did it.04:02
_priestand yeahconsole04:02
toddobryanJack_Sparrow: What does that mean?04:02
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dasosi'm still waiting for eve-online to work on vanilla wine04:03
mytrueheroMy sound doesn't seem to be working, even though it was working a minute ago. This is the second time that this has happened since I started using Ubuntu two days ago. The last time it happened, my sound suddenly came back after a restart. Any suggestions?04:03
AngryElfis there any way to tell via a command/software to see the wattage of a  PSU?04:03
PyromaniakAnyone have experience with wine not displaying applications, yet still loading the processes?04:04
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bsdfoxAngryElf, no04:04
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toddobryanWhoops. Jack_Sparrow left while I was trying his fixes...04:05
braniffwhat is the name of the linux program that converts iPod mangled filenames into song titles ??04:05
AngryElfdidn't think os04:05
toddobryanCan anybody tell me what acpi=off does as a kernel option?04:05
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AJ004how do I get 6.06-104:05
AJ004Seems like you cant directly update to 6.06-1?04:06
mytrueherobraniff: More Cowbell, I think. Package name is simply "cowbell"04:06
akutzHow does one go about setting up a mirror of the ubuntu updates?04:06
akutzI work for a University where we make as many servers private as possible, but they are RFC 1918 addresses, hence "campus" routed only04:06
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thebishopdasos, there are patches, but the latest wine (0.9.18) seems to work out of the box04:06
Hexidigital_what do i need to enable on my server to allow RDC connections, w/o being logged in?04:07
dasosthebishop, cool, looks like i might give that a shot04:07
braniffmytruehero, thanks!04:07
visik7does kickstart works only for alternate cd ? or also for the live installer ?04:07
BojAnyone know how you change the voices in Festival?04:07
believer_As Salaam e laikum (meaning: May Peace b on u) . http://www.submission.org/ ... Your source for Islam (submission) on the internet.04:07
believer_[112:0]  In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful04:07
believer_[112:1]  Proclaim, "He is the One and only GOD.04:07
believer_[112:2]  "The Absolute GOD.04:07
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believer_[112:3]  "Never did He beget. Nor was He begotten.04:07
mytrueherobraniff: np. As a second day linux user, I'm glad I could be of some help to someone :)04:07
believer_[112:4]  "None equals Him."04:07
thebishopdasos,  like i said, it runs a bit slower than on windows, and i do some some graphical glitches, but that very well could be because its an intel card04:07
Hexidigital_believer_: stop it04:08
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thebishopdasos, other people have said ATI cards work very well with it04:08
PyromaniakOk, lets try this another way..... Anyone have experience getting Continuum (subspace) working under wine?04:08
marshall__hey guys04:08
AngryElfHexidigital, i wasn't aware ubuntu used RDC04:08
ushinekowho? mark shuttleworth?04:08
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AJ004believer_ are you a terrorist?04:08
marshall__does anybody use gaim with their yahoo account?04:08
Hexidigital_AngryElf: well, KRDC, really04:08
akutzcan anyone help me to figure out how to set up a cache server for ubuntu updates?04:08
Hexidigital_marshall__: i do04:08
akutzUbuntu can act as a RDC client, but not server04:08
akutzit uses VNC04:08
BojAnyone know how you change the voices in Festival?04:08
akutzthere is a great topic in the forums on how to do what you want Hexi04:08
akutzlet me find it for you04:09
Hexidigital_akutz: thx04:09
_priestakutz: you mean like nightly rsync against the repos?04:09
dasosthebishop, i'm still trying to figure out ubuntu, the sources.list file, can i update that in the synaptic frontend?04:09
akutzI suppose04:09
_priestakutz: are you wanting to cache all deb packages etc04:09
drtrsk: i cant make the drive fat32 cause i want full 100gb encryption fat only support 4gb for a single file04:09
akutzI want to be able to configure all my private ubuntu servers' source.list files to point to my local cache server that has the ubuntu updates04:09
AngryElfHexidigital, rdesktop is the client for RDC, vncviewer is the client for VNC04:09
_priestakutz: ah04:09
_priestakutz: yea you probably want to look at rsync04:10
marshall__Hexidigital:  i just signed up for yahoo, i have a mail box and stuff. im trying to set up gaim for it but it says the account is locked and that i should login to yahoo04:10
drtso im not sure what to do.. maybe make ext2 and get drivers to read ext2 in windows04:10
_priestakutz: but i dont know how to turn debian into a package server so to speak04:10
drti had bad experiences reading ntfs in linux.. corrupted a hdd after awhile04:10
akutzer, Hexi, that was the link04:10
Hexidigital_akutz: thank you very much :)04:10
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thebishopdasos, i think you'll find this helpful: http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb04:10
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akutzapparently it is a new doc, the old one did not support resumable sessions, but this one does04:10
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dasosthebishop, sweet, thanks again =)04:11
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MetaMorfoziShow can i get to know04:13
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MetaMorfoziShow many rams REALLY used by all system funcs and my programs?04:13
MetaMorfoziSbecasuse top dispalys irreal number04:13
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MetaMorfoziSi think because it is counts the caching..04:13
MetaMorfoziS512/500 used04:14
MetaMorfoziSit's unreal04:14
torpedo|dogI broke my panel. Does anybody know where the configuration files are for it?04:14
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mytrueheroMy sound doesn't seem to be working, even though it was working a minute ago. This is the second time that this has happened since I started using Ubuntu two days ago. The last time it happened, my sound suddenly came back after a restart. Any suggestions?04:15
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braniffmytruehero, More Cowbell is the answer04:16
kjmmytruehero : get a volume knob that goes to 1104:16
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mytrueherokjm: I need to hear _something_ before I start worrying about how I'm going to get that extra push over the cliff.04:16
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drtWhat is the best encryption algorithm going right now04:17
ushinekoreverse rot-1304:17
Hexidigital_akutz::  thanks... that's what i was looking for :)04:17
mytrueheroSeriously, though, any ideas? This is pretty frustrating. It seems to be system-wide.04:17
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kjmmytruehero: you said that a restart helped the problem?  Has also muted your machine?  Do you have mute keymapped to something?  Is also crashing - > check /var/log04:18
akutzyou're welcome04:18
kjm*also = alsa04:18
kjm<- *kjm = shit typer04:18
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drthow bout something truecrypt supports.. best algorithm?04:18
akutzDoes anyone know how to rsync down the ubuntu repos?04:18
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AJ004if i have all the latest updates do i still need to download 6.06-1?04:19
visik7aes-256 is the best in term of rate speed/strongness04:19
visik7but isn't the best ever04:19
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drti heard sha1 was cracked04:19
jjongsmamytruehero: have you tried the obvious stuff like opening the volume control and making sure all of the channels are unmuted?  I've been bit by that before.04:19
FantasticFooif i install the xubuntu package04:19
drtaes-256 is nice? what would u use?04:19
FantasticFooand then remove it04:19
akutz> i heard sha1 was cracked: no04:19
mytrueherokjm: Mute isn't mapped, nor does my volume seem to be muted. Let me check /var/log (I only partially know what that means, but I'll give it a go!)04:19
FantasticFoowill everything be ok?04:19
drbreenFantasticFoo: yeah04:19
believer_wat do u mean terrorist?04:20
drbreenFantasticFoo: but its no use ?!04:20
ProN00bcan i somehow show the speed of a file i am moving or copying ?04:20
visik7akutz: you can't04:20
mytrueherojjongsma: In the interest of not coming in here and making a fool of myself, that's the first thing I checked ;)04:20
akutzsha-1 was found to have a possible collision in 1 in 400 million as opposed to 1 in 2 billion04:20
drbreenProN00b: no!!!04:20
FantasticFoothe xubuntu package is just a dummy package that commands the installation of other xfce packages right?04:20
akutzso for crypto geeks, yes04:20
kjmmytruehero -> all system log files are in /var/log - if you find crash reports etc. you'll see if alsa is going nutso in those log files04:20
akutzbut for your use, no04:20
FantasticFoodrbreen: huh?04:20
jjongsmamytruehero:  just trying to make sure since I've made a fool of my self in just that manner before :)04:20
visik7akutz: apt isn't compiled with rsync support by default you can try to rebuild your apt enabling rsync (if it possible)04:20
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)04:21
akutzvisik: that is not what I want to do04:21
drbreenFantasticFoo: for the xubuntu-desktop package being a metapackage, its dependencies stay on your system when you remove it04:21
mytrueherokjm: Typing 'more /var/log' yields '*** /var/log: directory ***' ...am I doing it wrong?04:21
akutzvisik7: I want to set up a local apt repo that mirrors the ubuntu repo for my private servers04:21
visik7akutz: so use apt-proxy04:21
FantasticFoodrbreen: good, so everything will be peachy after it's gone right?04:21
mytrueherokjm: wait... directory... I get it04:21
akutznever heard of it04:21
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akutzwill look into it04:22
drbreenFantasticFoo: but why would you want _that_ ?04:22
visik7akutz: it download packages as soon as a client require it04:22
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visik7akutz: and cache it04:22
FantasticFoodrbreen: i want to remove abiword so i can replace it with a version that i'm gonna compile on my own04:22
visik7akutz: for other machines04:22
froguzhow can i avoid ubuntu to start gnome?04:22
mytrueherokjm: There are a bunch of log files in here, none with the string 'alsa' in the filename. Should I check one in particular?04:22
FantasticFoodrbreen: and since abiword is a xubuntu dependancy04:22
akutza sf proj too04:22
visik7akutz: and do some other things04:22
=== Ropechoborra I'll be back ! :P
FantasticFoodrbreen: apt-get remove abiword commands the removal of xubuntu04:22
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akutzvisik7: thanks04:23
froguzi have made an aptitude dist-upgrade to my breezy, and now x server fails to load04:23
mytrueherokjm: There are a lot with 'evms-engine' in the name, for whatever that's worth04:23
AJ004ubuntu has new competition now from freespire04:23
kjmmytruehero - just a sec....I'm searching around for you........I'm not exactly right here.04:23
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drbreenFantasicFoo: everything is allright04:23
AJ004both debian based04:23
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AJ004competition is good :)04:23
drbreenFantasicFoo: you will have xubuntu after just w/o abiword04:23
Yashiroi have a question04:23
Yashirowhy can't i log to cupsys web admin04:23
visik7AJ004: freespire is not even near what ubuntu is right now04:24
drbreenFantasicFoo: so no problems ;) may i ask why you want that ?04:24
Yashiroit asks for an user and passworg04:24
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kjmcheck your volume controls to make sure nothing has been muted.04:24
Yashiroi use my user and password and it doesn't work D:!04:24
AJ004visik7:  why do you say that?04:24
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AJ004visik7:  i havent tried it yet04:24
visik7AJ004: first of all it hasn't the community behind ubuntu04:24
magus_xif my buffer device in k3b goes zero, the cd can be the problem? or the problem will be always the drive?04:25
visik7then the documentation (expecially for not so common task is lacking)04:25
drbreenfreespire has an outdated kde version ?!04:25
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marshall__can anybody help me set up gaim for my yahoo account?04:25
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AJ004visik7 freespire 1.1 will be community based04:25
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visik7nevermind is a waste of energy04:25
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visik7ubuntu rules the world :)04:25
AJ004competition is good...04:25
AJ004ubuntu is good04:26
visik7if competition is good04:26
crueldogDoes someone knows how to ebable vnc access (vnc server) on my computer?04:26
magus_xif my buffer device in k3b goes zero, the cd can be the problem? or the problem will be always the drive?04:26
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visik7we have macosx and ehm an ancient operative system called windows04:26
visik7magus_x: have you dma set correctly ?04:26
=== AJ004 will burn freespire
AJ004might as well try it :P04:26
magus_xvisik7, : i dont know, yesterday it worked fine04:27
inflex-lapHi there - I recently did a package update on my Ubuntu box (6.06) and now my webcam isn't detected - but it's a SE401 cam (USB) :-(  I've even manually loaded the drivers with modprobe ... but still nothing :( :(04:27
visik7magus_x:  have u enough read buffer04:27
inflex-lapanyone else had such an issue?04:27
visik7magus_x: oh04:27
magus_xtoday it gaveme this error04:27
visik7magus_x: strange04:27
magus_x2 times, i lost 2 cds04:27
magus_xit can be the CD?04:27
inflex-lapthe worst thing is that lsusb doesn't even show the device anymore04:27
visik7inflex-lap: try change port04:27
inflex-lapalas, I did04:27
jordanauwell i think i just accidentally thrashed Evz's computer04:28
inflex-lapand rebooted...and power cycled04:28
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visik7inflex-lap: dmesg tell something about new hardware ?04:28
crueldoghow can i enable vnc server on my computer?!?04:28
ubotuvnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.04:28
visik7!vnc > crueldog04:28
marshall__can anybody help me set up gaim for my yahoo account?04:28
inflex-lap[17271954.552000]  usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 704:28
inflex-lapThat's all that dmesg gives now04:28
jordanaui go thim doing a dist upgrade to dapper and he told me that the electricity was getting shut off at his house04:28
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c0rruptcan you install a 64 bit os on vmware running on a 32 bit windows?04:29
inflex-lapbefore it used to come up and say it was binding with v4l etc etc and setting up my /dev/video interface04:29
inflex-lapnow I don't have any /dev/video devices :(04:29
KrisWhow do I install vmware on ubuntu (breezy)?04:29
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dasosis there a configuration utility to adjust booting options? i think grub is the bootloader04:30
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geokokhi. any idea when latest ati drivers gonna hit the repos?04:30
visik7dasos: to do what ?04:30
visik7geokok: I don't think so04:30
geokokwhy not?04:30
visik7geokok: policy04:30
dasosvisik7, i dunno, cosmetic changes like turn the wait time down and to rearrange the order of things04:30
geokokbut they already give the previous ones....04:31
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geokokin restricted modules that is of course04:31
KrisWbah, someone needs to make a linux distro where you don't have to compile ANYTHING! o.O04:31
Montag__geokok: Check http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide for info on how to install the latest version yourself.04:31
ushinekowhy would you want the latest ati drivers? they seem to get worse as time goes on...04:32
visik7dasos: sudoedit /boot/grub/menu.lst (I can't think of anything better)04:32
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dasosvisik7, i'll check it out, thanks for pointing me in a direction at least04:32
shawnok I am sure now that no /etc/X11 exists on my fresh dapper server install04:32
KrisWcan anyone help me install vmware on my ubuntu computer? It says I need to reinstall GCC before it'll let me install it and I don't know how to do that04:32
shawnbut still my monitor setting is screwed up04:33
visik7dasos: pay attention modifing it04:33
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geokokWell I was hoping they were better than the ones I got but since they work I dont want to risk breaking my laptop setup04:33
andrew_ok my cd drive says it cannot mount because there is no04:33
andrew_mount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only04:33
andrew_mount: /dev/hdc already mounted or /media/cdrom0 busy04:33
andrew_mount: according to mtab, /dev/hdc is already mounted on /media/cdrom004:33
andrew_oops sorry04:33
fooWe have a VoIP talk at our local LUG right now ... /join #sgvlug ... the stream URL is in the topic. Free, open source. :)04:33
shawnsince I see it boot up and then the display settings go bad and the monitor can't handle the display mode once ubuntu really boots up04:33
andrew_well the question is still valid i guess04:33
ProN00bKrisW, i think vmware should suply packages for ubuntu04:33
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inflex-lapu can install vmware on most distros without issue04:33
ushinekoshawn, what kind of ati card is it?04:34
KrisWProN00b, well there is no vmware in apt04:34
visik7dasos: expecially the part about debian automagic change it only if you really know what you are doing otherwise your grub will not be updated on a kernel upgrade04:34
inflex-lapthe hardest I had was instlaling it on slackware and that required making up fake /etc/init.d dirs04:34
shawnI dunno, but which file on disk would I look at if I don't have an /etc/X11 ?04:34
cafuegoKrisW: Of course not, it's proprietary.04:34
shawnr_is there a way to minimize a running window from the terminal or with a script?04:34
shawnprobably some older crappy ati04:34
KrisWinflex-lap, I tried and it says my kernel was unsupported, and to reinstall GCC04:34
ProN00bKrisW, of course not, vmware costs money, you need to ask vmware developers for packages for your distro04:34
KrisWso that it could compile04:34
geokokI wanted the new drivers cause same game has 100 fps difference from xp to linux04:34
visik7shawn: depending on your window manager04:34
ushinekoI know that you will never get any x-series ati card to work out of the box, you have to install fglrx before even the boot screen will show up04:34
ProN00bKrisW, do you even have gcc and kernel sources installed ?04:34
marshall__can anybody help me set up gaim for my yahoo account?04:35
shawnI would be happy to tell it to stay in console mode04:35
KrisWProN00b, GCC yes, kernel sources I have no idea04:35
visik7shawn: under kde there is dcop that can do this, under gnome should be dbus but isn't as easy as dcop to handle04:35
andrew_HELP my cd drive wont mount04:35
KrisWI'm not rebuilding my kernel though04:35
Montag__shawn: Check /etc/X11/xorg.conf to mess with which drivers X is using.04:35
shawnI don't even need X right now04:35
KrisWscrew that04:35
shawnI don't have /etc/X1104:35
visik7shawnr_: : under kde there is dcop that can do this, under gnome should be dbus but isn't as easy as dcop to handle04:35
ProN00bKrisW, seriously, if you have bought vmware, tell them to friggin give you packages04:35
visik7same nick :)04:35
cafuegoKrisW: You need 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)'04:35
ushineko(note: you don't need X11 for the ubuntu boot screen...problem appears to be that certain ati cards do *not* work with the vesa driver)04:36
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KrisWI didn't buy it04:36
KrisWit's the free version04:36
KrisWthey sent me over here to get GCC reinstalled04:36
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visik7shitty ati carda04:36
ProN00boi, can you gimme the url to that free version, KrisW ?04:36
cafuegoYou don't need to reinstall gcc, you need the kernel headers for your running kernel.04:36
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ProN00bKrisW, and do what cafuego says, install kernel sources04:36
inflex-lapokay, how do I get back my /dev/video files?04:36
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andrew_nm i got it04:37
cafuegoProN00b: Headers, not sources.04:37
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ushinekovisik7: indeed. I have a x700 pro. it's a piece of crap. no linux distro will work with it without fglrx...at least nvidia cards can fall back to vesa.04:37
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ProN00bcafuego, sources contain headers ^^04:37
eegoreOK does anyone have any questions?04:37
hollyAre all the archive servers running raelly slowly again or something?04:37
shawndoes dapper server install x11 by default?04:37
mytrueheroI do, eegore :)04:37
ushinekowhich makes installing from live cd impossible...04:37
magus_xeegore, : i got one about k3b04:37
cafuegoProN00b: They're also 20x larger and mostly unneeded.04:37
visik7ushineko: there is a semi open driver called radeon04:37
mytrueherokjm was looking into it for me, but I haven't heard from him in awhile04:37
mytrueheroMy sound doesn't seem to be working, even though it was working a minute ago. This is the second time that this has happened since I started using Ubuntu two days ago. The last time it happened, my sound suddenly came back after a restart.04:37
Yashiroi have a problem, i can't log on cupsys webadmin04:37
visik7ushineko: should work (sort of)04:37
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shawnIf it's really the ati card I'll happily go down the street and buy some non ati crappy video card04:38
eegoreUse K3B all the time04:38
Yashiroit keeps asking for user and pass04:38
shawnif that's going to solve the problem04:38
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visik7Yashiro: is the default on *buntu04:38
eegoremagus_x: what do you have a problem with04:38
ushinekovisik7: didn't for me...what would happen was basically a total machine freeze when trying to start X04:38
Yashirovisik7: how can i fix it?04:38
magus_xif my buffer device in k3b goes zero, the cd can be the problem? or the problem will be always the drive?, because yesterday it worked fine, and now with a diferent cd, i got this problem, but i burned at a speed acceptable for the disk04:38
KrisWi'm a complete noob when it comes to anything about compiling, I have no clue what these headers or sources or whatever are except they have to do with compiling which I'm not going to do04:38
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KrisWHow do I replace my current GCC with an older version?04:38
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visik7Yashiro: dunno why you want to use webadmin04:39
Yashirovisik7: when i go to localhost:631 it says, if is asked enter your user and pass or root and root pass04:39
eegoreIs the device driver loading properly?04:39
ushinekobought a geforce 6500 from newegg from $39...problem solved :)04:39
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visik7can't you just use the config panel ?04:39
mc|ambhi, could someone recommend a program to listen to podcasts?? thanks04:39
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Yashiroi want to do it, 'cause hp-toolbox ask for it04:39
ProN00bKrisW, doing something like that really is not recommended04:39
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Yashiroi have a multifunctuonal printer04:39
KrisWwell that's what vmware is telling me to do :-/04:40
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eegoremagus_x: Dis you go theough the initial configuaration04:40
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magus_xi think yes because yesterday i burned a cd normally04:40
satafterhis there a substitut for shockwave player?04:40
visik7Yashiro: the panel do the same thing of the webapp04:40
visik7satafterh: no04:40
Yashirono it does not D:!04:41
eegoremagus_x: how old is the drive?04:41
visik7Yashiro: strange I can manage class and printer from the panel04:41
satafterhgreat :{04:41
Yashiroi have installed my printer with the ubuntu default printer installer04:41
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visik7ok dunno for gnome I'm using kde right now04:41
Yashirobut hp-toolbox keep saying there's no device installed04:41
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Yashiroalso ubuntu printer dialog didn't offer me the driver for my printer and cupsys webadmin did :D04:42
magus_xeegore, : 1 year04:42
Linuturk6.06.1 has been released?04:42
eegoremagus_x: good make>04:42
Linuturkwill my system automatically update?04:42
rskLinuturk: if you are already up to date, no.04:43
ProN00bKrisW, what vmware is free ?04:43
eegoreWho made it04:43
rskLinuturk: the update is mainaly an updated livecd.04:43
magus_xi just know yesterday it worked and today it destroyed 2 cds :(04:43
ProN00bKrisW, the player, isn't it ?04:43
KrisWno, the server version04:43
Yashiroi had problem writting to low quality cds04:43
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Linuturkrsk, so the repos don't change, correct?04:43
eegoreIs it a m ain name brand or an off brands04:43
Yashironow i buy good ones and they work fine :D04:43
rski belive so04:43
digitalhav0cWOW gaim is awsome!!!!04:44
babodamn ... the webpage that I'm on goes right off the side of the page and it doesn't have any scroll bar. I can just make out the start of the google search box at the top ... ? what can I do ? ...04:44
Yashirou can use ur google cat account with gaim :D04:44
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hollyI'm downloading updates at like 10k/s!  I've tried switching to uk.archive.ubuntu.com.  Is there any other mirror I can try?04:45
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ProN00bKrisW, got any idea what that is ? http://www.vmware.com/download/server/open_source.html04:45
KrisWno clue04:45
digitalhav0cjust in accounts/04:45
eegoremagus_x: I have seen writers go bad in a year. My kid had one04:45
Nexeaquick question... i am new to linux.. i would like to know where exactly is / stored at04:46
Nexeai want to make all new files store on my new hard drive04:46
Nexeasecondary hard drive04:46
Yashiroi read a faq long time ago04:46
verboseNexea: on the device it's mounted on04:46
Yashirobut it worked, let me check04:46
digitalhav0cNexea: in /04:46
Nexeais there an easy way to switch it.. to move it to my new hard drive04:46
magus_xeegore, : but the question is04:47
magus_xthe problem can be the cd?04:47
Yashirodigitalhav0c: http://www.system7designs.com/blog/configure-gaim-for-googletalk/04:47
verboseNexea: you can use tar, or dump and restore, or any other backup/recovery options04:47
eegoremagus_x: open K3B and go to the configuration pull down menu in settings04:47
magus_xbecause i changed the mark, well, i dont know how i can say it in english, im using a "different" cd04:47
digitalhav0cthanks Yashiro04:47
eegoremight be04:48
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Nexeaoh ok04:48
eegoreI only use cds of know quality04:48
Yashirohow do i add my user to lpadmin?04:48
eegorelook under devices04:49
magus_xok, eegore , so the problem can be04:49
magus_xok, im looking04:49
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eegoreeverything look normal there?04:49
magus_xso i hope the problem is the cd04:50
hollyWhen I try to update my package list, it works fine, but trying to download packages goes at a crawl.  What's going on?04:50
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eegoredo you have a high quality cd handy?>04:50
magus_xi wont buy maxell cds anymore04:50
magus_xnot, only tomorrow i will =/04:50
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inflex-lapsurprise surprise... that did nothing :(04:50
inflex-lapokay, basically I've lost my /dev/video :(04:50
shawnok it's an SIS card not an ATI04:50
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eegoreTry a good quality disk , if that works throw the crappy ones out or sell them to another sucker at a garage sale04:51
magus_xwell, i will try it tomorrow04:51
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shawnso let's say I have a dapper drake fresh install from the server cd, I don't see any /etc/X11 at all -- how do I fix any monitor settings issues?04:51
magus_xthanks for the help04:51
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shawnI don' t even know if this installed X or not, but I don't see it04:52
shawnso I guess no04:52
eegoreno worries mate04:52
orbinholly: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org  pastebin your /etx/apt/sources.list file04:52
Dimensionscan any one help me in tcl script ?04:52
orbinholly: /etc/apt/sources.list ... not /etx04:52
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hollyorbin, I've changed it several times to different mirrors, it's set right. :)04:52
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orbinholly: that was what i was going to suggest...using a mirror :)04:53
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marshall__can anybody help me set up gaim for my yahoo account?04:54
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eegoremagus_x: K3B1.0 should soon be released04:54
Dasnipa`marshall__, whats so hard about it?04:54
dmbok i feel like being nice04:54
dmbwho needs help here?04:54
magus_xeegore, : great04:54
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marshall__Dasnipa`:  i just signed up for yahoo today when my friend sent me an invitation email04:54
magus_xmy version is04:54
magus_xthis is old? o.O04:54
dmbversion of what?04:55
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dasosunder "add/remove applications", what version of wine is listed?  i think i updated my repository but i can't tell04:55
marshall__Dasnipa`:  then i went into giam, typed marshall_ent2 in the alias field and my password04:55
Dasnipa`marshall__, tools -> accounts -> add -> choose yahoo standard and enter info04:55
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el_ismaHello! I need help bridging my eth cards. I tried the howto in the wiki but it didn't work. Also, I tried a few howtos for debian, no result... I already have installed bridge-utils. My network setup is a router/gateway, my machine (has eth0 and eth1) and my sister's machine (connected to mine, running WinXP). Anybody can help me?04:55
Dasnipa`alias is what you see your nick as not your account name04:55
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marshall__Dasnipa`:  then it said it couldnt login because there is a lock on the account and i have to login to the yahoo site04:55
installinHow can I find out why ubuntu hangs when mounting the root filesystem without the nodma line?  someone said it was a performance killer?04:55
inflexDo the devices like /dev/video get created when a videocam is detected... or should they be there all the time?04:56
Dasnipa`marshall__, you might have to authenticate the account did you get an email to complete registration?04:56
dmbinstallin: sure is a performance killer without any dma04:56
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tanlaanHey everyone, I've decided that I want to run a few mac programs. I am on an iMac G3, 350 mhz, 192mb ram, and 7 gigs. Which should I do, reformat my computer and make it dual boot with mac OS 9 and Ubuntu? Or should I reformat using Ubuntu for the entire hard drive and install mac-on-linux?04:56
marshall__Dasnipa`:  then i did that and it didnt seem like there was any kind of lock04:56
dmbwhat kind of hd are you using?04:56
installinso how do I find the source of the problem?04:56
knapperWhere can I find the 'Main Menu' icon? (ubuntu logo)04:56
installinI'm using an SATA something...04:56
Dasnipa`marshall__, junk box?04:56
Yashiro# HP PSC 1400 series (HP PSC 1400 series USB #1)04:56
Yashiro#  HP PSC_1400_series (hp:/usb/PSC_1400_series?serial=BR5AT2H03J04BM)04:56
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marshall__Dasnipa`:  yeah i authenticated it04:56
Yashirowut printer do i choose to install?04:57
marshall__Dasnipa`:  or verified it04:57
installin160 GB....lemme check on the brand04:57
dmbinstallin: hmm, what happens, do you get a kernel panic, where does it hang?04:57
Dasnipa`marshall__, i dunno seems like yours might be a tougher problem might ask the #gaim guys04:57
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Yashirowhat printer do i choose to install?04:57
Yashiro#  HP PSC_1400_series (hp:/usb/PSC_1400_series?serial=BR5AT2H03J04BM)04:57
Yashiro# HP PSC 1400 series (HP PSC 1400 series USB #1)04:57
marshall__Dasnipa`:  are they on freenode?04:57
earthsoundis there a rule of thumb for partitioning sizes for /, /swap, /home, etc., in Ubuntu?04:57
Dasnipa`marshall__, yes04:58
piratepenguinis there a graphical way in Ubuntu to make my home directory non-world-readable?04:58
piratepenguin(without using the File manager)04:58
Dasnipa`piratepenguin, yes, CHMOD04:58
lufisWhat's the best, audiophile-approved CD ripper? I've heard good things about cdparanoia but it hasn't been updated in quite some time. Soundjuicer works, but it's lacking in a lot of areas.04:58
installinactually, no the boot volume for my linux is a seagate 80 gb IDE hd04:58
el_ismaearthsound I wouldn't recommend more than 300Mb for Swap04:58
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piratepenguinDasnipa`: I know that, but others don't..04:58
installini dont even know what dma is...lol04:58
Yashiroi have 512 MB ram and almost the same on swap04:58
installin<- linux newb04:58
marshall__Dasnipa`:  thanks04:59
lufisel_isma: Really? I made /swap a whole gig. Is that not good?>04:59
jrojashi.. what is the ubuntu "spanish" channel ?04:59
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el_ismaearthsound: a partition for /home is up to you, I don't have a partition for it, but some people like it best04:59
earthsoundel_isma: it's been a while since I've installed a linux distro...but for some reason I remember making the swap about twice the size of the RAM. is that no longer a valid measure?04:59
Dasnipa`lufis, kaudiokreator... it can rip to FLAC and such as well04:59
Yashirojrojas: anda al canal ubuntu-es04:59
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Dasnipa`lufis, creator* sorry04:59
tenzing_what should i install on ubuntu to play mp3 and avi movies04:59
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lufisDasnipa`: Well, yes, but does it use its own backend?05:00
jrojasthanks yashiro.. how can i change my channel ? :S (n00b)05:00
el_ismaearthsound: If you've got 64Mb RAM that's only 128Mb Swap... But if you have a gig ram, you *don't* need swap05:00
KrisWok screw it, dapper here I come05:00
el_ismaearthsound: I actually run my pc without swap..05:00
knowwhohey, should i "PREMPT" or not? what's the diff?05:00
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earthsoundwhat is the default size of an Ubuntu install?05:00
Yashirojrojas: use /join #ubuntu-es05:00
earthsoundel_isma: that's good to know. this particular machine has 1GB RAM05:00
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jrojasTnks again Yashiro05:00
el_ismalufis: It isn't bad, until linux decides to use it! I assure you you don't want to be on a machine that swaps that much05:00
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lufisel_isma: Ha, ah, I see.05:01
el_ismaearthsound: You can run quite a bit on 1 gig. I run KDE+Vmware(256Mb Ram) + Azureus (java) and still got 500mb free05:01
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SeanTaterel_isma: lufis: seen /proc/sys/vm/swapiness ?05:01
installinok...so what exactly does nodma DO then?05:01
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earthsoundel_isma: if I do some heavy image manipulation or video editing, I will need some swap space, though05:01
rcmivanyone know howto synergy breezy (server) to dapper (client) ie 1.2 to 1.3 compatibility?05:01
el_ismaSeanTater: yup05:01
ripperanyone installed fluxbox on ubuntu without breaking it?05:01
SeanTaterel_isma: okay05:02
lufisSeanTater: I don't even know what that is :P05:02
phenezripper, lol yeah05:02
farousripper: breaking what05:02
SeanTaterlufis: it adjusts how swappy your kernel is05:02
ripperall the nice autoupdate features, and autodetection of usb devices05:02
lufisSeanTater: Ah. Should I change it?05:02
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el_ismaearthsound: Maybe... But, as I said, too much swap will *kill* your perfomance05:02
farousripper: have it installed here for ages no hastle at all05:02
ripperor is that metacity/gnome only05:02
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SeanTaterlufis: only if you do not enjoy your current experience05:02
rcmivcan't seem to compile synergy 1.3. on breezy05:02
phenezripper, it is applications used within gnome05:02
el_ismaearthsound: remember that swap is "false ram"05:02
shawnr_anyone have any tips on speeding up ubuntu dapper (gnome)... other than stopping services?05:03
ripperwell most of that shit is just frontends for a terminal based app correct?05:03
el_ismaSeanTater: I actually don't have a swap partition :)05:03
earthsoundel_isma: yes, but it won't be used unless the RAM isn't available, right?05:03
phenezripper, heh, why do you want to use fluxbox if you want 'nice' autoupdate and autodetection of usb?05:03
rcmivs'poze I could retro dapper to synergy 1.205:03
SeanTaterel_isma: you can make a swap file05:03
ripperim asking for a friend of mine05:03
phenezripper, yeah05:03
ripperhe was wanting to know05:03
el_ismaearthsound: Depends on swappiness, but in general, it won't.05:03
ripperhis computer only has 128mb sdram in ti05:03
SeanTaterel_isma: it's supposively a little bit less efficient05:03
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ripperand ubuntu dont wanna run too fast05:04
phenezripper, anyway, you can do all that from the terminal if you want, or install the apps from gnome/kde that you want05:04
Yashiro_Nanakasei have a problem with stepmania, it crashes 'cause it says that the audio device is in use05:04
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SeanTaterripper: extra ram would do well, bu do you have swap?05:04
lufisSeanTater: Actually, it lags quite a bit. I have 384 MB of memory and a gig of swap and I notice Xorg slows down a LOT if i'm running anything more than gaim and rhythmbox... the mouse will lag on the screen and I end up clicking on things i don't want to05:04
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rob__Cool. A room for Ubuntu!05:04
ripperyes he has a swap05:04
installinHow can I find out why ubuntu hangs when mounting the root filesystem without the nodma line?05:04
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phenezripper, just if you are switching to fluxbox to save resources, it's silly to add all the crap back again05:04
secleinteerhey, how can install x11 cursor themes?05:04
dell500isn't there a backup DVD/CD with a bunch of programs that backup large quanities of data from HD's to and from?05:04
el_ismaSeanTater: I think I read something about that somewhere... For now I haven't had the need of swap (500Mb free, on what I consider heavy use...)05:04
SeanTaterlufis: try adjusting it and see if it gets better: you can do it the following way, if typed in a terminal.)05:05
installinsecleinteer:  isnt it standard with the new version?05:05
ripperi've been wondering, isnt there a way i can display how much physical ram and the processor speed in the terminal?05:05
eegoreTHe one thing theat irks me with K3B at the moment is one of the packages is no longer available for it05:05
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verbosesecleinteer: sudo apt-get install gcursor i believe05:05
earthsoundel_isma: sounds good. another question that I didn't see in the wiki: is there a problem w/ large SATA hd? (250GB)05:05
el_ismaripper: yes there is... can't remember it though :S05:05
eegoretime for work, later all.05:05
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verboseearthsound: i'm running a 250GB sata drive on ubuntu05:05
earthsoundit will be the 2nd HD after an 80GB IDE HD05:05
secleinteerverbose: if i downloaded an x11 theme from gnome-look, how do i install that?05:05
SeanTaterlufis: sudo 'echo aNumberBetween1and100 | cat >/proc/sys/vm/swappiness'05:05
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earthsoundverbose: good to hear05:06
el_ismaearthsound: I don't know... It shouldn't be... I'm running a 160Gb SATA (boot from there, too)05:06
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knowwhoripper: cat /proc/cpuinfo05:06
ripperi got a 160gb seagate that i have to return :(05:06
dagrumpanyone every ran into a n .asx audio stream, & if so which plugin is needed?05:06
phenezripper, lot's of ways ...look at dmesg05:06
ripperyeah i knew i could do dmesg | less05:06
phenezripper, look in your /proc directory05:06
brenconwhat python  IDEs do folks around here like? I'm looking at this SPE thing. http://www.stani.be/python/spe/blog/05:06
lufisSeanTater: Great, thanks05:06
installinHow can I find out why ubuntu hangs when mounting the root filesystem without the nodma line?05:07
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el_ismabrencon: haven't found an IDE I like... I just use IDLE :P05:07
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el_ismabrencon: Most people swear by Emacs05:07
earthsoundwhat's the current state of writing to NTFS in linux, now?05:07
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phenezripper, you can also check out 'systat'05:07
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rob__Why can't I get Windows computers to get my shared files in Ubuntu?05:07
SeanTaterlufis, that probably won;t work, just realized..05:07
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ripperubuntu uses samba to share files05:08
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SeanTatertoo late now05:08
el_ismaearthsound: I'm using ntfs-3g. Works quite well. Supposedly it's beta software, so if you REALLY care about your files, you better not use it. But I been using it for a week or two now, It works great.05:08
rob__I did that.05:08
ripperatleast by default05:08
rob__But the password doesn't let me in anyway.05:08
ubotuI know nothing about preempt - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu05:08
dr_willis_rob__,  you need to set your users smb passwprds with 'smbpasswd -a username'05:08
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ubotuI know nothing about nodma - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu05:08
el_ismaearthsound: Had to do a chkdsk on windows one time, but only for a silly error05:08
dr_willis_rob__,  with 'sudo smbpasswd -a username'05:09
aSt3raLwhats up with automatrix?05:09
ubotuI know nothing about ide=nodma - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu05:09
aSt3raLis it any good?05:09
rob__So I have to create a seperate one?05:09
earthsoundel_isma: I can't remember what I was using a year ago (it, too, came with warnings :) ), but the shared NTFS partition will contain mostly media files (images, video, some text, etc.)05:09
dr_willis_aSt3raL,  DONT use it. :P05:09
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dr_willis_rob__,  the default setup is to not have any samba passwords set up.05:09
el_ismaearthsound: ntfs-3g is quite new.05:09
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el_ismaearthsound: allow read-write05:09
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installinHow can I find out why ubuntu hangs when mounting the root filesystem without the nodma line?05:09
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ripperSwapTotal:      361420 kB05:09
aSt3raLwhy not?05:09
ripperSwapFree:       271688 kB05:09
EstebanII'm trying to install Ubuntu and it freeze during installation! on "Loading hardware drivers". Help!05:09
dr_willis_rob__,  also you may need to edit the samba config files to enable writeable home shares.05:09
el_ismaearthsound: I can look up the deb. rep, if you want05:09
rob__I'll try to create one then.05:09
ripperhe's got a 1.7ghz with 128mb sdram05:10
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rippernot much but it runs ubuntu rather slowly05:10
Stickittothemancould someone help me with CSS running through WINE?05:10
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aSt3raLdont use it is pretty drastic05:10
dr_willis_aSt3raL,  its best to learn to isntall the stuff manually.. and MUCH safer05:10
phenezripper, ugh, more ram, the rest is cool05:10
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aSt3raLwhy do you say that?05:10
rob__But I don't think it says user name/password05:10
Stickittothemanit doesn't launch the game05:10
ripperphenez yeah05:10
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dr_willis_aSt3raL,  its can and has been known to Totally mess up ststems05:10
shawndoes anyone know if the default dapper server disk install installs X or not?05:10
aSt3raLyeah i know how to do that05:10
el_ismaStickittotheman: Good luck... I couldn't run CS :'(05:10
dr_willis_shawn server install should not.05:10
EstebanII'm trying to install Ubuntu and it freeze during installation! on "Loading hardware drivers". Help!05:10
installinshawn - i dont think it does - i tried to- didnt work.05:10
selfharmwhats the easiset way to get latest updates to get to LTS ?05:10
Stickittothemanel_isma: thats it... im going back to windows05:11
Stickittothemanits a sad day....05:11
rippersh: model: command not found05:11
ripperUsage: grep [OPTION] ... PATTERN [FILE] ...05:11
ripperTry `grep --help' for more information.05:11
phenezripper, although i have ubuntu with fluxbox running on a p2 450 with 128 meg of ram, and it does a fine job05:11
aSt3raLis there any cool new apps out?05:11
rippermodel: 705:11
rippermodel name: AMD Duron(tm)05:11
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EstebanII'm trying to install Ubuntu and it freezes during installation! on "Loading hardware drivers". Help!05:11
el_ismaStickittotheman: Windows games on linux generally don't run too well... At least, not for me05:11
earthsoundhas anyone here used Instlux for Ubuntu to install from within winblows?05:11
phenezripper, just don't have any unneeded services etc running05:11
rippersuch as?05:11
rippercause this is a default install....you remember seeing smacky in here earlier?05:12
Stickittothemanel_isma: well im going to go find that mirror for tinyxp05:12
ripperthats the guy im talking about05:12
phenezripper, anything i don't need05:12
ripperwith the speed issues05:12
nbjaymehello, i am having a problem with my sound on ASRock MotherBoard, AMD, Via8235..., help!05:12
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el_ismaStickittotheman: what's that?05:12
shawnok in a server with no X windows, where can I configure my monitor settings?05:12
EstebanIGod damnit, does anyone fucking help around here? I can't even find a decent source for installation troubleshooting. And you people think this piece of crap is going to take over the world?05:12
user1wow the replys are fast tonight05:12
shawnI can use the monitor in rescue mode but not the default boot05:12
ripperphenez dont tell him that , he'll start rm'ing stuff like crazy (smacky)05:12
el_ismashawn: dpkg-reconfigure xorg05:12
shawnhow can I tell what mode rescue mode is using vs default?05:12
Stickittothemanel_isma: its a stripped down version of windows that has a bunch of warez pre-installed, and you dont have to activate it :D05:12
shawnthere is no xorg on the box05:12
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installinHow can I find out why ubuntu hangs when mounting the root filesystem without the nodma line?05:13
Dimensionsi have installed my hp1400 series ... but its all in one how can i use it for scanning and copying ?05:13
el_ismashawn: oh, sorry!05:13
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jeff_When I install a package for an open source program is the source code usually installed as well?05:13
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KrisWhow can I get rid of a package from apt that won't remove when I do sudo apt-get remove?05:13
el_ismashawn: you mean like setting up the framebuffer?05:13
verbosejeff_: not normally05:13
shawnso how do I pick the driver or monitor or whatever that rescue mode uses?05:13
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shawnI'm happy with just text console05:14
el_ismaKrisW: What error does it give?05:14
phenezripper, ah thought it was for you05:14
shawnbut now the default non-rescue boot has invalid display mode05:14
installinfriggin a.05:14
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verboseshawn: i believe it's a boot options like nofb or something05:14
earthsoundEstebanI: is there an option to install in text mode? it could be a video driver problem. at least, w/ other distros, I've seen that same thing on ATI video cards05:14
phenezripper, get him to use sysv-rc-conf or something05:14
verboseshawn: google no frame buffer linu05:14
dr_willisearthsound,  the alternative install cd has text mode installer.05:14
jeff_verbose: is there a standard way to find the accompanying source code or does it vary from program to program?05:14
EstebanIearthsound: No.. there was a "Graphics safe" mode that I tried and it did the same thing.05:14
installini cant find any documentation on this, either, btw05:15
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verbosejeff_: it really varies, a lot of oss is on sf.net or freshmeat.net05:15
verbosebut by no means all of it05:15
el_ismaEstebanI: earthsound: the DVD has the text mode install. I think it's the "alternate" cd.05:15
verbosejeff_: google is the best way usually05:15
jeff_verbose: thanks05:15
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earthsoundEstebanI: I'd try that text mode install (but then again, I've never installed Ubuntu...just going by past experience w/ other distributions)05:15
DimensionsRob r u from uk ?05:15
el_ismaverbose: Doesn't "deb-src" do something like that? (I don't know, never used it)05:16
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user1has any one ever seen this error before? Unknown id: apt-get05:16
el_ismaHello! I need help bridging my eth cards. I tried the howto in the wiki but it didn't work. Also, I tried a few howtos for debian, no result... I already have installed bridge-utils. My network setup is a router/gateway, my machine (has eth0 and eth1) and my sister's machine (connected to mine, running WinXP). Anybody can help me?05:16
KrisWok that time it removed05:16
KrisWI just had to install it again first05:16
nodma_whyHow can I find out why ubuntu hangs when mounting the root filesystem without the nodma line?05:17
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KrisWok here we go, upgrading to dapper, I hope nothing gets broken >.<05:17
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user1this is the second time apt has given me trouble05:18
el_ismanodma_why: it's an old HD?05:18
nachumkhi, i'm a new ubuntu user and i am having some issues with sound, who would i speak to?05:18
earthsoundnodma_why: do you have two IDE devices?05:18
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nodma_whyyes, I've got a DVD burner and an IDE hd, and a second os on an SATA05:19
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Gun_SmokeCan adobe be had from the repos?05:19
earthsoundnodma_why: if so, you should make sure the jumpers on the HD and CD are set to master and slave05:19
earthsoundand not cable select05:19
toxicfumeOkay I have already installed Ubuntu and GRUB is running nice and smooth. However, now I am going to partition to increae the linux partition from Windows XP...I assume after i finish this and restart, i have to reconfigure Grub because i modified the Linux partition (which is the boot partition)? What do I have to do in Grub?05:19
earthsoundI've seen problems like you describe w/ CD drives set to cable select instead of manually set to slave05:20
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nodma_whyIve got the the DVD set as master on ide 0 and the the HD set as slave on the other ide slot, and the SATA is...well...05:20
Gun_Smoke!grub > Gun_Smoke05:20
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user1do a search for grub update05:20
KrisWok just to make sure I'm doing the right thing here, I edit /etc/apt/sources.list and replace all breezy with dapper then sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:20
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el_ismaKrisW yup05:21
user1I think that will square you away05:21
KrisWok just making sure all this stuff it's doing is right hehe05:21
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toxicfumeuser1: seems to be a bit confusing, as all man pages seem to be :/05:21
el_ismatoxicfume: agreed... man pages are confusing!05:21
nodma_whyive noticed alot of grammar errors in ubuntu as well05:21
el_ismanodma_why: in which language?05:22
pheneznodma_why, but not a lot of syntax errors05:22
user1I am still new myself if i give a wrong answer please let me know05:22
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user1ya doc's suck in all open source05:22
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nodma_whyso is there a way to get around the nodma?  perhaps another setting I can use that will keep something like performance?05:22
brinnahey yaalll05:23
nachumkcan someone help me with a sound card issue with dapper 6.06?05:23
user1they assume you are an expert05:23
brinna weeeeeeeee05:23
starhawkdose any one know what flash player is doing have they quit supporting lunix sence 7.005:23
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brinnaho wdy05:23
ripperanyone tried the new 6.06.105:23
brinnano way jose05:23
user1has any one ever seen this error before? Unknown id: apt-get05:23
brinnano way bum hay05:23
ripperuser1 > interesting error05:23
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el_ismastarhawk: I read rumors that they're working on a new version for linux...05:24
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brinnai have titees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!05:24
el_ismastarhawk: but yeah, it sucks! :(05:24
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nachumkwhere might i go for sound card support? anyone ..., please05:24
nodma_whyso is there a way to get around the nodma?  perhaps another setting I can use that will keep something like performance?05:24
starhawkcool any idea when it will be released05:24
el_ismanachumk: Is it a weird soundcard? like, ISA or something?05:24
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poopfacehey der sexy mama05:24
el_ismanachumk: otherwise, Alsa shouldn't have trouble with it05:24
poopfacei luv you jessica!!!05:25
el_ismanodma_why: I don't think so... DMA is a great difference05:25
poopfaceu r ma sweethert05:25
user1ripper: I even reinstalled apt but it did not help05:25
poopfacewhats dma?05:25
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el_ismapoopface: Direct Memory Access05:25
nachumknope, ensoniq, part of a micron millenia system05:25
poopfacewhy in the name of hell allmighty are u talking about stupid things05:25
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poopfacemillenia sux05:25
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Coruscantok i got this problem with all the command and conquers it needs a update it searches for it then says the system does not need the update! HELP!05:26
LoRezWarning: `poopface' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.05:26
ubotudma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hard disks run faster,  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA05:26
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dmbpoopface: you need to stop05:26
nachumkits a pci ensoniq es137105:26
nodma_whyel_isma:  it dont let me load if i dont disable it, I was told that the only way to get the performance up is to get around the nodma slot....so..I was trying to find another setting because i was also told that it might be a hd incompatability thing05:26
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nachumkthe weird thing is that it appears to work fine, but no sound comes out05:26
poopfaceim outie face head05:26
nachumkthe same setup works fine under windows xp05:26
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el_ismanachumk: Look for the volume settings :P05:27
nachumki checked that05:27
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nachumkused alsamixer and unmuted all channels, and brought them all up to full05:27
nachumkthen called alsactl store05:27
Coruscantok i got this problem with all the command and conquers it needs a update it searches for it then says the system does not need the update! HELP!05:27
el_ismanachumk: allright05:27
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nodma_whyis ubuntu ready for the public?  I'm starting to have doubts.05:27
knowwhois ext3 for linux only?05:27
nachumkits not the wires or speakers  b/c i boot in windows and its all fine05:28
user1dam I wish I could remember all of the acramims05:28
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el_ismaknowwho: yes, but there's a driver to access (rw) ext2  for windows05:28
earthsoundbbl...need to reboot05:28
nalphaknowwho : i think's so05:28
nachumki also see that when i call mpg321 from the command line it opens the /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p to play05:28
dmbis there a room to talk to the people running the release/mirror stuff for ubuntu?05:28
user1there is a linux sound card project05:28
nachumkshould i speak to them?05:28
nachumki can speak to the alsa support i guess05:29
el_ismanachumk: maybe the soundcard outputs a different out?.. I've seen complex windows drivers that can output sound to any channel05:29
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starhawkany word on when it will be released05:29
nachumkthere are 2 outputs on this soundcard, pcmC0D0p and pcmC0D1p05:29
nachumk i tried both by using switches with mpg321, and i verified it by lsof05:29
el_ismanachumk: I'm talking about the physical outputs05:29
PORDOIS THERE any way in ubuntu to paste without formatting, so that text copied from, say a web page, gets pasted without changing font/size/etc?05:29
nachumkneither output05:29
heinouskylehello everyone05:29
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el_ismanachumk: what are you using to try the output?05:30
nachumklet me try what your saying05:30
nodma_whyare there any nice RAD environments for linux?  Like VB or RealBasic?05:30
el_ismanachumk: i mean, which program?05:30
nachumkel_isma: what do you mean05:30
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nachumki have speakers hooked up, and i am trying to play an mp305:30
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ripperipper@ubuntu:~$ telnet 5432105:30
ripperConnected to
ripperEscape character is '^] '.05:30
ripper220 Serv-U FTP Server v6.0 for WinSock ready...05:30
el_ismanachumk: which program? xmms?05:30
ripper530 Not logged in.05:30
nachumkel_isma: its the speaker out output05:30
user1well one more try05:30
nachumkel_isma: mpg32105:30
nodma_whynachmuck it could be a driver thing05:30
user1has any one ever seen this error before? Unknown id: apt-get05:30
tanlaanwhen doing a dual boot with Ubuntu should the other OS be installed first?05:30
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jack|workSo I just dist-upgraded to dapper on this server.  Beastie has two network adapters, which had been assigned eth0 and eth1.  It has flipped them for some odd reason.  How can I fix this?05:31
dasosnodma_why, i dunno if eclipse is considered rad05:31
heinouskyledo you have mp3 playback support installed?05:31
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el_ismanachumk: try xmms... shouldn't be different, but just because...05:31
nachumknodma_why: what do you mean? all of the drivers are installed, and all of the modules are loaded05:31
joshghello all05:31
el_ismatanlaan: if it's windows, yes05:31
nalphaanyone know why gftp is unstable???05:31
nachumki am trying to avoid gnome for this b/c gnome defaults to esd, and i want to verify that the basic card is working05:31
nachumkso i am testing in the console05:31
heinouskylemp3 support isn't included in the default installation of ubuntu05:31
nodma_whymachumk- im not sure, but I wonder if its possible that all linux apps dont work on ubuntu that work on other systems.05:31
nachumkmpg321 plays mp3s05:31
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el_ismanachumk: you can tell XMMS to output to ALSA directly05:32
tanlaanel_isma Its mac OS 905:32
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Yashiro_Nanakasei have a question05:32
el_ismatanlaan: no idea then05:32
nachumki can try that, i'm gonna try to fiddle with the outputs, and i'll install xmms and play with that, i'll be back05:32
el_ismanachumk: good luck05:32
Yashiro_Nanakasewhy do stepmania say that audio device is busy?05:32
tanlaanel_isma: then Ill install it first anyways.05:32
el_ismaYashiro_Nanakase: maybe another program is using the audio device?05:33
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Yashiro_Nanakaseel_isma but i have no other program running05:33
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Yashiro_Nanakasei tried rebooting and only starting stepmania05:33
nodma_whyso is there a way to get around the nodma?  How do I locate the problem, and what is DMA?05:33
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dmbare able to order new dapper livecds with 6.06.1?05:34
el_ismaYashiro_Nanakase: which output is it trying to use? See if you can get it to use esd or arts... I don't know that program05:34
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user1well every one, I am  off05:34
Yashiro_Nanakaselet me check05:34
ubotudma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hard disks run faster,  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA05:34
user1take care05:34
el_ismanodma_why: look at that05:34
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ubotuFor help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm05:34
el_ismaI need help bridging my eth cards. I tried the howto in the wiki but it didn't work. Also, I tried a few howtos for debian, no result... I already have installed bridge-utils. My network setup is a router/gateway, my machine (has eth0 and eth1) and my sister's machine (connected to mine, running WinXP). Anybody can help me?05:35
painkilerhow can I partition an existing drive that already has ubuntu on it so I can have a small fat32 partition05:35
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el_ismapainkiler: gparted? qtparted?05:35
painkilerdunno the difference05:35
Yashiro_Nanakasecan i put my error here?05:35
ubotuI know nothing about freebsd - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu05:35
Yashiro_Nanakasethere r like 6 lines05:35
el_ismapainkiler: one's for gnome, the other for kde :)05:35
el_ismapainkiler: both frontends for parted05:36
painkilerI'll use them then05:36
Yashiro_NanakaseALSA: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.10rc3 (Mon Nov 07 13:30:21 2005 UTC).05:36
Yashiro_NanakaseALSA Driver: 0: ATI IXP [IXP] , device 0: ATI IXP AC97 [ATI IXP AC97] , 0/1 subdevices avail05:36
Yashiro_NanakaseALSA Driver: 1: ATI IXP Modem [Modem] , device 0: ATI IXP MC97 [ATI IXP MC97] , 1/1 subdevices avail05:36
Yashiro_NanakaseCouldn't load driver ALSA: dsnd_pcm_open(hw:0): Device or resource busy05:36
Yashiro_NanakaseMixing 0.000000 ahead in 0 Mix() calls05:36
Yashiro_NanakaseCouldn't load driver ALSA-sw: dsnd_pcm_open(hw:0): Device or resource busy05:36
el_ismaYashiro_Nanakase: go ahead05:36
Yashiro_NanakaseMixing 0.000000 ahead in 0 Mix() calls05:36
Yashiro_NanakaseCouldn't load driver OSS: RageSound_OSS: Couldn't open /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy05:36
phenezoh no05:36
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)05:36
Yashiro_Nanakasesorry, this isn't spam, it's an error u.u05:36
joshgcan someone help me with this error?  I totally screwed my system.../dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.05:36
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dell500this is kinda dumb, cause i knew the answer but now i don't, but how do you format a USB-SATA partition (not made yet) and/or mount it to make it...05:37
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el_ismaYashiro_Nanakase: does sound work in other apps?05:37
Yashiro_Nanakasebeep-media-player and mplayer works terrificly good :D05:37
el_ismaYashiro_Nanakase: and they aren't running when you run that program?05:37
Yashiro_Nanakaseonly stepmania05:38
el_ismaYashiro_Nanakase: Then I have no clue :)05:38
Yashiro_Nanakaseso i don't understand the error ._.05:38
TheGameis there an options menu for take screenshot05:38
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el_ismadell500: try qtparted or gparted05:38
TheGamemy mouse is never in the screen and iwant it to be05:38
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Coruscanthow do you create an empty .dll?05:38
Pntklthat's a secret05:38
cyanicswish VLC could figure out what "always ontop" means.05:38
el_ismadell500: I don't know if it works with usb drives05:38
nomasteryodacyanics, lol so true...05:39
dell500can't i just mount the usb and then format it?05:39
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el_ismadell500: if it's already partitioned, yes...05:39
dell500oh, well it's not formatted...05:39
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el_ismadell500: formatted =! partitioned05:39
dell500is it gt or just g?05:40
nachumki checked the audio jacks, none of them output sound, i also checked xmms using oss, esound, and alsa05:40
dell500cause i don't have either...05:40
b14ck73425has anyone used linux as a server05:40
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el_ismadell500: gparted or qtparted (gnome and kde, resp)05:40
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nachumkand none of them output sound, although all of them look like they're working05:40
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nachumkis there an irc for alsa?05:40
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garrett|mobileGood evening, #ubuntu05:40
el_ismanachumk: I don't know... You could try the debian channels too05:40
el_ismaI need help bridging my eth cards. I tried the howto in the wiki but it didn't work. Also, I tried a few howtos for debian, no result... I already have installed bridge-utils. My network setup is a router/gateway, my machine (has eth0 and eth1) and my sister's machine (connected to mine, running WinXP). Anybody can help me?05:40
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eimajenthathey, anyone used an atheros card with Ubuntu?05:41
nachumkwhat are they?05:41
nachumkand thanx for the help here05:41
eimajenthatI'm having trouble with mine05:41
eternalswddoes anyone know if it is possible to tab through every file in the gnome-terminal and if so, how?05:41
el_ismanachumk: what are what?05:41
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eimajenthatnormally it's recognized and functional at boot05:41
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eimajenthatbut sometimes it doesn't seem to get noticed when the system is booting05:42
{K}Lubbyhey everyone, i have a question05:42
eimajenthathow do I get it noticed after the fact?05:42
sethketernalswd, I'm not sure exactly what you mean, but zsh will do whatever it happens to be.05:42
{K}Lubbyhow do i get a ubuntu computer to connect to my windows xp computer (this one) using a crossover cable?05:42
sethk{K}Lubby, a crossover cable is the same as two machines connected to a hub/switch05:42
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joshgcan someone help me with this error?  I totally screwed my system...05:42
el_ismasethk: is that like the vi vs emacs war? (bash vs sh vs zsh vs....) What outstanding features does zsh have?05:43
joshg/dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.05:43
sethk{K}Lubby, so you simply configure both boxes to talk to each other.05:43
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TheGameis there a way to take screenshots witht he mouse in it?05:43
{K}Lubbywhen i go to edit the connection settings for a static ip and stuff, it say's that it could not enable the interface eth005:43
{K}Lubbyso seth, how do i configure them?05:43
joshgI'm trying to fix grub, but I think it got wiped out05:43
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sethkel_isma, no, it isn't like that05:43
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sethkel_isma, essentially, ksh is from UNIX, bash is a superset of ksh, and zsh is a superset of bash05:43
eternalswdsethk, what I want is to press a key on the keyboard in the terminal and have the first filename come up.  hitting that same key again would then bring up the second filename and so on05:44
Yashiro_Nanakasehow can i know what process its using a device?05:44
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sethketernalswd, zsh will do that05:44
CalcMaster86 yay! i have networking! but i have another question... i'm trying to install libxtst-dev, but the package installer says i need libxtst6... when i try installing libxtst6, it fails, telling me i have a newer version05:44
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{K}Lubbythe ubuntu one needs to have an ip of 192.168.0.(something), subnet, gateway, dns server
mikeghi everyone05:44
Yashiro_Nanakaseuse apt-get install <packagename> :D05:44
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mikegwhat is wrong if my ubuntu does not detect my SATA raids05:45
eternaljoydoes azureus install on Dapper?05:45
{K}Lubbyor is there another way to set up the network other than system-->administration-->network settings?05:45
el_ismaeternaljoy: Yup, but you have to install jre1.5 first05:45
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CalcMaster86 yashiro_nanakase: that doesn't work for libxtst-dev... it says it couldn't find the package05:45
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{K}Lubbyand if it makes a difference, im running ubuntu from an iso cd (it's not actually installed yet)05:46
eternaljoyel_isma: ok cheers!  I have jre1.5 installed already05:46
Yashiro_Nanakasefind a repository that haves the package :D05:46
mikegwhat is wrong if my ubuntu does not detect my SATA raids05:46
gilwhat are the open office langauage pacakges i need to install from adept05:46
el_ismaeternaljoy: I had to set it up as default too, with galternatives, otherwise azureus wouldn't run05:46
eternaljoyel_isma: once azureus is intstalled, then what?05:46
eternaljoyel_isma: ok got it05:46
coded1can anyone share opinions of amd64 / 64bit kernels?  Is it worth it?  If I want to use it as a PVR will it make it difficult for video/sound drivers / software?05:46
sethketernalswd, man zshcompsys will give you all the gory details, if you have zsh and zsh docs installed.  Basically you set one option flag, and tab lists all the completions, then  each tab shows one file name05:46
gili need the open office dictionary? :-(05:46
Pirate-Kingit detects my wireless card signal strenghth but can't connect05:47
{K}Lubbyanyone know how to fix it so it will let me have a static ip without having an error that dis-activates the connection?05:47
dmbanyone have any info on the 6.06.1?05:47
CalcMaster86 yashiro_nanakase: yes, i found one, downloaded it to my machine, and tried to install it with package installer... it says: Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libxtst605:47
mikegwhats wrong if SATA drives not detected05:47
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CalcMaster86 yashiro: whe i try installing libxtst6, it says i have a newer version05:47
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Icemasta[God] Hell05:47
Icemasta[God] o05:47
sethk{K}Lubby, hmm?  just set a static IP05:48
{K}Lubbyseth, thats my problem05:48
{K}Lubbyit won't let me set a static ip05:48
sethk{K}Lubby, run network-admin05:48
sethk{K}Lubby, how are you trying to set it?05:48
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el_isma{K}Lubby ifconfig ethX up ?05:48
el_isma(where 123 is your ip)05:48
IRCMonkeyhow do I install wine on dapper drake?05:48
sethk{K}Lubby, at the command line, if it is eth0,   ifconfig eth0 netmask
sethk{K}Lubby, obviously replace with the ip you wish to use05:49
sethk{K}Lubby, need to be root, so if you aren't, use sudo05:49
{K}Lubbyi get to command line by opening terminal, right?05:49
el_ismaIRCMonkey: easiest way is to set the wine repository, and then let apt-get(synaptic, adept) use it05:49
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{K}Lubbyand sethk, how do i set the gateway and stuff?05:50
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{K}Lubbygateway and dns server i think is the only other things05:50
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sethk{K}Lubby, the gateway is set with:   route add default gw           of course replacing with the gateway address05:50
el_ismasethk: Do you know how to bridge ethernet cards? I'm having trouble doing that...05:50
sethkel_isma, it's been a while, but I have done it.  What problem are you having?05:51
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el_ismasethk: I tried the howto in the wiki but it didn't work. Also, I tried a few howtos for debian, no result... I already have installed bridge-utils. My network setup is a router/gateway, my machine (has eth0 and eth1) and my sister's machine (connected to mine, running WinXP).05:51
{K}Lubbyso sethk, in terminal i type: sudo add default gw
sethk{K}Lubby, no05:51
firestarterYashiro_Nanakase: yes?05:51
sethk{K}Lubby, sudo route add default gw
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el_ismasethk: the ubuntu guide got me far... I got the bridge to get an IP from my router, but I had no internet05:52
Icemasta[God] Can I ask something?05:52
sethk{K}Lubby, if there is another gateway set, you may have to delete it.05:52
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Yashiro_Nanakasei mean the package called firestarter05:52
el_ismaIcemasta[God] : go ahead05:52
firestarterYashiro_Nanakase: lmao!05:52
cyanicsIcemasta[God] , fire away05:52
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Icemasta[God] woot05:52
sethkprobably you have to set or add routes05:52
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Icemasta[God] So, I'll format windows pretty soon, and install linux ubuntu 6.06 or LTS05:52
{K}Lubbyokay sethk i have a problem, when i tried that it says: SIOCADDRT: network is unreachable05:53
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Icemasta[God] The problem is, I got 1.8 TB of space (1676 TiB)all of that in ntfs05:53
el_ismasethk: I did add a route to my router. I don't know if I did it correctly05:53
sethkel_isma, list out your routing table (route with no arguments prints it)05:53
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el_ismasethk: ok, hold on05:53
CyaniCs|transcdeIcemasta[God] , that is a problem.05:53
sethkel_isma, paste it to the pastebot and we'll see if it is correct05:53
Icemasta[God] I got a partition for the OS, which is 20GB, and I'll wipe that out05:53
Icemasta[God] To install ubuntu05:53
el_ismasethk: where's the pastebot?05:53
Icemasta[God] Will the ntfs work on ubuntu?05:53
}btorch{how can I tell apt-get install to install all php4 related packages , like php4-mysql and so on?05:54
Yashiro_Nanakaseonly for read05:54
Icemasta[God] I heard lots of bug that I'll be able to read, but not write05:54
CyaniCs|transcdeIcemasta[God] , ntfs read will work, but not ntfs writes05:54
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flipfonentfs reads just fine05:54
sethksomebody tell el_isma about paste?05:54
el_ismaIcemasta[God] : ntfs can already be read from linux05:54
Yashiro_Nanakaseu can't write on nfts partitions05:54
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sethk!paste > el_isma05:54
Icemasta[God] So I have to change all my partitions to write on them?05:54
CyaniCs|transcdeIcemasta[God] , you can potentially setup a custom kernel with ntfs writes, but it is really dangerous05:54
sethkIcemasta[God] , it isn't a bug05:54
el_ismaIcemasta[God] : ntfs-3g has good (but beta!) support for ntfs write05:54
{K}Lubbythis is evil :\05:54
sethkIcemasta[God] , it just isn't available05:54
CyaniCs|transcdeIcemasta[God] , yeah, but it isn't just that easy. if you are talking about huge amounts of space.05:54
sethk{K}Lubby, why don't you just run network-admin?  it's simple; you just fill in the blanks05:55
jordanauwhat is a great detailed weather app?05:55
Icemasta[God] By "change them" would mean complete format -.-05:55
{K}Lubbysethk, where?05:55
CyaniCs|transcdeIcemasta[God] , that would be the easiest way.05:55
sethk{K}Lubby, what do you mean?   at the command line, run:   sudo network-admin05:55
el_ismasethk: ready05:55
Icemasta[God] What filesystem should I use thne?05:55
CyaniCs|transcdeIcemasta[God] , do you have enough space space to move them around?05:55
CyaniCs|transcdeIcemasta[God] , ext3 is good for general support in linux. Fat32 is compatable between linux and windows05:56
Icemasta[God] I could get another 600GB HDD05:56
sethkel_isma, if it is on the 'bot, paste the URL here05:56
Icemasta[God] CyaniCs|transcde, I heard of a weird one05:56
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Icemasta[God] rheisp or something05:56
Icemasta[God] Yeah, that thing05:56
sethkel_isma, can you ping
el_ismasethk: that is wrong :S05:57
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el_ismasethk: yup, that's the router05:57
sethkel_isma, remove it05:57
sethkel_isma, the one that's wrong, remove it.05:57
northstari have a dual boot system with Windows XP, the XP system needs to be reinstalled (what a surprise...)  is it possible to do this without destroying my linux setup?05:57
sethkel_isma, wait05:57
{K}Lubbysethk, i've tried using network-admin, and it works fine using dhcp configuration (other than that it won't connect to my xp box!), but if i do static ip and put the info in it says: could not enable the interface eth0. check that the settings are correct for this network and that the computer is correctly connected to it05:57
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eimajenthatcan I hotswap my pcmcia wireless card?05:57
Coruscant how do you open/use this tiberian.sun_2.03-english.run05:57
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sethkel_isma, what is this machines IP address (addresses, actually)?05:57
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Coruscantor any .run file for that matter05:57
horrorkWhere is the sl-modem-daemon package?05:58
horrorkCan't find it in synatic05:58
el_ismasethk: this one is
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horrorkWith multiverse enabled05:58
sethk{K}Lubby, it can't work with dhcp and fail that way with a static ip.  It isn't really working with dhcp either.05:58
el_ismasethk: how do I remove that wrong entry?05:58
{K}Lubbyyeah, i meant that with dhcp it isnt giving an error message05:58
CyaniCs|transcdeIcemasta[God] , i would still recommend ext3 if you are going exclusively linux05:59
el_ismasethk: there's another Ip for the vmware-windows. You need that one too?05:59
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sproingiehow do i get the java plugin to work in firefox?05:59
Icemasta[God] CyaniCs|transcde, hmm... wait..05:59
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Icemasta[God] I always wondered05:59
sethkel_isma, you remove a route with route del     but, the line isn't wrong if eth0 is
CoruscantHELP!  how do you open/use this tiberian.sun_2.03-english.run05:59
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Icemasta[God] When you send a file via TCP or UDP packets05:59
{K}Lubbyhowever, it still won't connect because my xp computer doesn't have dhcp on it... (side note: is there a way i could set up my xp computer with a dhcp server so that i could leave the ubuntu settings on dhcp?)05:59
el_ismasethk: but there's nothing at *.*.*.005:59
TheGameis there an alternative to limewire05:59
Icemasta[God] Is it decoded from NTFS before?05:59
TheGamethat actually looks good05:59
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CyaniCs|transcdeCoruscant,  type "sh FILENAME"05:59
Icemasta[God] That's rather dumb05:59
sethkel_isma, that's ok, that says anything for 192.168.123.* goes out via eth006:00
GoDawgshey everybody :)06:00
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TheGamesup dawgs06:00
sethkel_isma, which is correct if the netmask is
CyaniCs|transcdeIcemasta[God] , when you send a file, you are transmitting date, not filesystem06:00
CyaniCs|transcdeIcemasta[God] , the file system works as a result of the recieving computer06:00
sethkel_isma, for a bridge I expect to see eth1 as well as eth0.06:00
horrorkWhy can't I find sl-modem-daemon in synatic>06:00
TheGamehow do i make folders hidden06:00
GoDawgsI get the feeling I have a question that's been asked like four billion times.  But since I haven't gotten an answer directly, I need to ask it again.  Has Ubuntu gotten the Broadcom 4318 drivers working yet?06:00
GoDawgsI was told they had in Dapper.06:01
el_ismasethk: now there's nothing set, if I set it up I lose internet06:01
TheGamei want to hide some folders in my home folder06:01
Icemasta[God] To bastardize it, it receives it and stores in NTFS way?06:01
CoruscantCyaniCs|transcde explain06:01
sethkhorrork, I see it in mine.  you did search?06:01
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{K}Lubbysethk, any idea what's wrong, or is there a way i can set up my windows xp computer so that i can just leave the ubuntu one on dhcp settings?06:01
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horrorksethk, yes06:01
CyaniCs|transcdeIcemasta[God] , the OS says "oh, there is a file coming in, i need to write it to the hard disk, i use NTFS as my language"06:01
horrorkapt-get search sl-modem-daemon06:01
el_ismaTheGame: the usual "hide" in linux is to name the dir with a dot before, like ".whatever"06:02
sethkel_isma, remove the gateway route, set eth1, then add the gateway route back in, see if you keep internet06:02
horrorkI tried synaptic too06:02
Icemasta[God] Ok, so "encoding - decoding" to bastardize it then?06:02
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GoDawgshey tritium06:02
Icemasta[God] :P, just nevermind me06:02
TonrenGuys, what's a good bandwidth testing utility to see if my ISP has capped my uploads?06:02
Icemasta[God] I'll format tomorrow06:02
GoDawgshey nalioth :)06:02
CyaniCs|transcdeCoruscant, in a terminal, you type "sh THE FILE NAME HERE.run"06:02
el_ismasethk: the other machine is off, does that matter?06:02
sethkhorrork, has to be your repository setup.  I'm running breezy by the way06:02
Icemasta[God] Oh, what is the lost rate?06:02
sethkel_isma, no, should not matter06:02
Icemasta[God] For ext3?06:02
{K}Lubbysethk, do you know how to fix what's going on lol?06:02
horrorksethk I am running dapper06:02
horrorksethk I have setup the repo in synaptic06:02
el_ismasethk: which line should I remove?06:03
sethkhorrork, it's possible that the package name has changed, although I doubt it.06:03
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amonkeyhow can i install libtag from svn on ubuntu?06:03
Coruscant<CyaniCs|transcde>  nm im a  noob i got it now though thanks06:03
sethkel_isma, we did route add default gateway ....       you remove it with exactly the same command, except instead of route add, it is route del06:03
eternalswdsethk, do you know how I can get zsh to display the same as default gnome terminal ie instead of computer% for it to display user@computer:path$06:03
GoDawgsdoes anyone know how to get the Broadcom 4318 wlan up and running?06:03
{K}Lubbyor... hey sethk i have another idea....06:04
cafuegoGoDawgs: Yes, the wiki :-)06:04
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ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:04
Icemasta[God] CyaniCs|transcde, I love you, but tell me, is there a big lost rate for ext3?06:04
sethkel_isma, I have one box here with multiple NICs, and it had a similar problem with losing the internet after bringing up the second.  It turned out that the bringing up the second NIC put a route in the routing table that was messing things up.06:04
{K}Lubbywould it work better if i put the wireless connection (lan network that has internet) onto the ubuntu instead, and then hooked the xp box up to the ubuntu one?06:04
el_ismasethk: yup, that looked like a disconnect :(06:04
Icemasta[God] Space wise06:04
TheGameel_isma is there a way to hide a folder and have it still be used by the program06:04
GoDawgscafuego: I can't tell you how many times I've been to the wiki but to no avail.06:04
sethkel_isma, I fixed it by removing the bad route add adding the correct default route.06:04
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GoDawgscafuego: thanks though :)06:04
TheGamefor instance i hid google earth by adding the dot but now the shortcut cant find it06:04
TheGamebecause of the dot06:04
cafuegoGoDawgs: Did you use the instructiuons there or not find any?06:05
CyaniCs|transcdeIcemasta[God] , it is about 5% above NTFS needed space.06:05
sethkel_isma, if you run network_admin, it has on a multiple NIC machine a pulldown to select the interface for the default route06:05
GoDawgscafuego: no I found plenty... just none of the "fixes" fixed my problem06:05
sethkel_isma, that's the easy way to fix it.06:05
Icemasta[God] And NTDS needed space is?06:05
GoDawgscafuego: i've been having this problem for over a year now so I'm not surprised it's still not working.06:05
el_ismasethk: I should bring up eth1 first, right?06:05
CyaniCs|transcdeIcemasta[God] , so if you had 100GB of hard drive space, and formatted it NTFS, if you reserve ~8%, ext3 will reserve abobut ~13%06:05
GoDawgsWell, actually a little surprised... because SOOOOOOOOOOO many people have this same card06:05
el_ismasethk: should I do ifup eth1 or ifconfig eth1 up?06:06
horrorkAnyone know where did sl-modem-daemon go? (It is not in synaptic.)06:06
CyaniCs|transcdeIcemasta[God] , but a 5GB file will still take 5GB06:06
Icemasta[God] I understand that06:06
Icemasta[God] So if I partition a 100GB space06:06
Icemasta[God] It will glomp 13GB?06:06
cafuegoGoDawgs: The latest dapper kernel update and firmware pretty much means the 4318 out to work now06:06
sethkel_isma, I prefer to use ifconfig because it is the same on all distros.  ifup is a script that calls ifconfig.  In this case I think both  do exactly the same thing.06:06
CyaniCs|transcdeIcemasta[God] , about that, yeah06:06
GoDawgscafuego: yeah, that's what i thought too...06:06
Icemasta[God] Per partition?06:06
el_ismasethk: Ok, gonna try.06:06
Icemasta[God] Or per HDD?06:06
cafuegoIcemasta[God] : Unless you trweaked it to say 0%, yes.06:06
GoDawgscafuego: I just did a dist-upgrade today and i still can't get it to activate06:06
el_ismasethk: I should set up the bridge again, right?06:07
sethkel_isma, the default command for ifconfig is up, so you can just do   ifconfig eth1  ip netmask mask         where of course ip and mask are numbers06:07
CyaniCs|transcdeIcemasta[God] , per formatted partition.06:07
coded1can anyone give me some insight on 32v64bit kernel arch? any experiences?  I'm planning on using this box as a pvr/mame box(FWIW)06:07
el_ismasethk: with brctl ?06:07
cafuegoGoDawgs: Did you install the firmware?06:07
{K}Lubbyhey sethk, do you think it would make a difference if i actually installed ubuntu onto the computer instead of running it from the iso cd?06:07
Icemasta[God] Holy shi-06:07
eternalswdsethk, nevermind, I found the appropriate instructions.  one question though, is there a way to get gnome terminal to use zsh by default?06:07
GoDawgsnetworking sees the card... has for a long time.. but getting it to work is another story.06:07
GoDawgscafuego: firmware?06:07
sethkel_isma, I'd take it one step at a time.  see if the internet is still there after bringing up eth1 but before the bridge configuration.06:07
CyaniCs|transcdeIcemasta[God] , thats pretty typical.06:07
cafuegoIcemasta[God] : it's just a default; you can change it to 0 or 99% ;-)06:07
GoDawgscafuego: it sees the card, didn't think i'd need firmware06:07
sethketernalswd, usermod -s /bin/zsh username06:07
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TonrenGuys, what's a good bandwidth testing utility to see if my ISP has capped my uploads?06:07
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CyaniCs|transcdeIcemasta[God] , cafuego is correct, but i would just go with the defaults and let it take the 13%06:07
Icemasta[God] cafuego, how how how?06:07
Dr_Willisbittorrent :P06:08
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cafuegoCyaniCs|transcde: The default is 5% actually06:08
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sethketernalswd, it is the default shell for the user, not specifically related to gnome-terminal06:08
CyaniCs|transcdeIcemasta[God] , it has to do with the journal on the disk (your datas protection)06:08
cafuegoIcemasta[God] : 'tune2fs' is the tool you're after.06:08
CyaniCs|transcdecafuego, my typical is about 13%06:08
Dr_Williseternalswd,  set  your users default shell.. or make a gnome-terminal configuration to run zsh06:08
{K}Lubbyhey sethk, do you think installing ubuntu onto that computer (it's running ubuntu off the iso cd i burned right now) would make a difference?06:08
malvwill a 6.06 installation automatically update to 6.06.1?06:08
el_ismasethk: eth1 is up, no ipv4 address (but it does have an ipv6 address :S!), internet is alive06:08
malvor do I need to do something special?06:08
CyaniCs|transcdecafuego, about 70gb on an 80gb partition, net result06:08
cafuegoCyaniCs|transcde: Not so much that as the reserved blocks count for root. That's all fine and well on /, but on /home it's kinda useless.06:08
CyaniCs|transcdecafuego, true.06:09
oxezhello, I just tried to play with my multimedia keys on my keyboard, (mostly for volume) and I have some trouble: I can see that gnome raises or lowers the volume (there is a window that popup with a bar..), but the sound itself doesn't change. What could cause that?06:09
cafuegoCyaniCs|transcde: No, the issue there is that an 80GB disk is NOT 80GiB - the 1024 factor.06:09
GoDawgscafuego: is my assumption wrong?06:09
Icemasta[God] Ok, so basicall,y I better be ready for some space lost?06:09
{K}Lubbysethk, you there?06:09
Icemasta[God] 160gb = 149gib06:09
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naliothhi GoDawgs06:09
eternalswdDr_Willis, how dow I set the default shell?06:09
CyaniCs|transcdecafuego, that also. i recognize that. but basically, a noob is best off knowing they are only getting 95% of the advertised space06:09
el_ismasethk: I don't have a network_admin command :\06:09
GoDawgsnalioth: hey there :)06:10
Dr_Williseternalswd,  linux/bash/shell 101 :P use 'chsh' i think.06:10
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Icemasta[God] CyaniCs|transcde, are you calling me a noob?06:10
oxezEven if I mute the sound directly in that volume applet, the sound doesn't change.. weird06:10
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CyaniCs|transcdeIcemasta[God] , nope. i make no assumptions ;-) i am just trying to make it easy06:10
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shuveb|homewhere do i set the size of tmpfs/shm from? im using dapper06:10
GoDawgsnalioth: how have you been?  Long time no see.06:10
cafuegoCyaniCs|transcde: Aye, but 95% != 87% ;-)06:10
{K}Lubbyerrrm.... oddd....06:10
{K}Lubbyi might have fixed it :S06:10
Icemasta[God] I was kidding :P06:10
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CyaniCs|transcdecafuego, ok. i will just shut up and stick to my assessment of 13% on a typical partition06:11
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cafuegoGoDawgs: You still need (non-open) firmware with the free bcm43xx driver.06:11
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asdfjkldoes anyone use the webcam package "Motion"?06:11
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GoDawgscafuego: what do you mean?06:11
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GoDawgscafuego: meaning the driver?06:11
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cafuegoGoDawgs: The dapper kernel cannot use the bcm43xx without the firmware from broadcom.06:12
Icemasta[God] CyaniCs|transcdem, that's not the problem actaully06:12
TonrenGoDawgs: I hear that you should just use ndiswrapper and disable the broadcom drivers06:12
TonrenGoDawgs: But I don't even have wireless working.  o.O06:12
GoDawgscafuego: I just downloaded the driver and saved the zip... so I need to get the firmware from broadcom is this what I understand?06:12
{K}Lubbyor maybe i didn't fix it :\06:12
cafuegoTonYou hear wrong.06:12
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Tonrencafuego: Really, I thought that the default Bcom drivers were buggy and fail?06:12
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Icemasta[God] I might have 1.676TiB, a bit less with teh partioning, but if I lose 13% of all that instead of 8%, I don't think everything will fit in after06:12
Tonrencafuego: I had Ndiswrapper working at some point in the past, but I recently reinstalled and now wireless refuses to wrk06:12
cafuegoGoDawgs: That depends on whether you want to use the free drivers on the ndiswrapper windows drivers.06:12
GoDawgsTonren: I can't use the ndis... doesn't work for me at all.06:12
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cafuegoGoDawgs: Ok, hold on06:13
asdfjkldoes anyone use the webcam package "motion" ?06:13
GoDawgscafuego: ok06:13
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CyaniCs|transcdeIcemasta[God] , if it is that close, you would probably be best adivised to upgrade your storage space.06:13
cafuegowiki is being slow, sorry...06:13
GoDawgscafuego: no worries... am patient for help.  :)06:13
eternalswdif I use a .zshrc file, do I put it in my home directory?06:13
CyaniCs|transcdeIcemasta[God] , i know where you are coming from. i have about 1.2tb of video files, and need to move them around from time to time06:13
Icemasta[God] CyaniCs|transcde, I got 1.8TB already -.-06:13
seshomaruanyone can tell me about copying Linux with Norton Ghost06:14
el_ismasethk: I'm going to try to make the bridge, be right back (hopefuly!)06:14
cafuegoGoDawgs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper#head-833db445567bc16203a6b2450bef4d133959d61806:14
Icemasta[God] I could go on a burning strike06:14
{K}Lubbyyo sethk are you there?06:14
pushpopIs there a Wiki on how to install in vmware on a seperate partition from windows, then  boot nativly into ubuntu?06:14
GoDawgscafuego: let me go check it out... thanks :)06:14
cafuegoGoDawgs: Basically, delete ndiswrapper, install the fimeware deb package, reboot.06:14
Icemasta[God] WAit, you know where I come from?06:14
CyaniCs|transcdeIcemasta[God] , the other option is to get another system and run that as the server. then you can migrate over the network as necessary06:14
RoninGurlI downloaded 6.06.1 when I saw it mentioned on distrowatch or osnews. dont remember which. and i burned it to CD. how do i do a dist-upgrade from the CD.06:14
Icemasta[God] CyaniCs|transcde is a stalker!06:14
cafuegoGoDawgs: (or unload and reload the bcm43xx driver)06:14
Icemasta[God] :P06:15
cafuegoRoninGurl: Insert the cd, wait, click Yes.06:15
RoninGurldidnt work. said it wouldnt do it...06:15
GoDawgscafuego: ok... I'm not sure if i have the ndiswrapper anymore anyway.  So, I'll install the firmware from debian.06:15
seshomaruI copied Linux with Norton but when I want to boot from the new (copied) harddisk , i get a screen that says "grub, grub, grub"06:15
cafuegoRoninGurl: You cna probably add the cd as repository in synaptic, try that.06:15
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pushpopIs there a Wiki on how to install in vmware on a seperate partition from windows, then  boot nativly into ubuntu?06:15
Tonrencafuego: Which firmware package is that?  I'm trying to get wireless working too06:15
cafuegoTonren: Then one I maintain.06:15
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Tonrencafuego: Oh, it's not in the repos?06:16
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cafuegoTonren: I've only got 4306 cards myself, but I've had reports of the 4318 working too with the latest firmware files.06:16
RoninGurlso your saying do it from within ubuntu... my last dist-upgrade from 5.10 --> 6.06 was done via web updater. your system updater isnt recognizing 6.06.1 yet so i downloaded the ISO. how do you add the cd as a repository?06:16
cafuegoTonren: Nope, not free.06:16
Tonrencafuego: I have a  Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller.  what firmware should I be getting?06:16
cafuegoTonren: just the one in the package; it will work in 4318 as wella s 4318.06:17
Tonrencafuego: Your package?  Where is that?06:17
cafuegoTonren: (older firmwares had a bug, preventing the4318 from working)06:17
cafuegoTonren: wiki link, scroll up.06:17
Tonrencafuego: This one?: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper#head-833db445567bc16203a6b2450bef4d133959d61806:17
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cafuegoNote the next section, "1.2.3. Setting up the Wireless Card" too.06:18
Tonrencafuego: Thanks06:18
selfharmgood evening. is it possible to remote connect FROM windows to dapper?06:18
Tonrencafuego: Jesus, you maintain a repo?  I hear that's next to impossible06:18
el_ismasethk: It didn't work...06:18
Tonrenselfharm: Using what?  VNC?06:18
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cafuegoTonren: Nah, deady easy. Seveas wrote a little tool to do it.06:18
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Tonrenselfharm: Usually protocols are platform independent.  If you are running VNC or SSH, you can connect regardless of OS.06:19
selfharmTonren, i dont know. can i do wit with vnc? can i do it with anything06:19
cafuegoselfharm: You cna do it with vnc or with X from 'cygwin'. (or just ssh: putty)06:19
Tonrencafuego: I'm starting to get worried; I'm starting to recognize #ubuntu regular nicks06:19
Tonrenselfharm: You sure can.06:19
el_ismasethk: are you around?06:19
tonyyarussoTonren: Get used to it ;)06:19
Tonrentonyyarusso: Hehehe06:19
selfharmtonren, thanks ill go download vnc/06:19
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selfharmdo i need putty AND vnc? or just vnc?06:19
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Tonrenselfharm: Putty is text-only; VNC takes control of monitor06:20
Dr_Willisi use putty and vnc both :P06:20
el_ismaanybody can help me setting up a bridge between two eth cards?06:20
Dr_Willisselfharm,  for windows ussage i tend to use the 'ultravnc'   vnc variant.06:20
cafuegoTonren: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/dapper-seveas/  -> search for 'Falcon'.06:20
selfharmthanks dr willis, my next question was what flavor of vnc06:20
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RoninGurlI get "W:MD5 mismatch for: main/binary-i386/Packages, W:MD5 mismatch for: main/binary-i386/Packages.gz, E:Read error - read (5 Input/output error)" when i try to add the 6.06.1 CD as a repository06:20
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Dr_Willisselfharm,  then theres that xming tool  -->  http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Xming  thats handy06:20
Tonrencafuego:  GPG error: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net dapper-cafuego Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 580E2519969F3F5706:21
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Dr_Willisselfharm,  under linux - i tend to use the vnc4server  not noticed much differance in it and tightvnc..06:21
cafuegoRoninGurl: disc broken, I'd hazard.06:21
Tonrencafuego: I've gotten that before, actually.  What in blazes does it mean?06:21
{K}Lubbythis is driving me crazy06:21
cafuegoTonren: Check the home page at that url.06:21
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RoninGurlit came straight from releases.ubuntu download page, hashes checked out. and i burned at half speed.06:22
cafuegoTonren: Means apt doesn't have the gpg key aprt that signed the package lists.06:22
cafuegoInstructions on how toa dd are there.06:22
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Tonrencafuego: Figured it out; thanks.06:22
Tonrencafuego: Didn't occur to me to just go to the freakin URL06:22
user1hi all a little wile ago I had a problem with APT06:23
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Tonrencafuego: So, now I'm supposed to restart?06:23
brueniguser1, doyou still?06:23
Tonrenbruenig: cheeky06:23
user1the real problem was with SU06:23
cafuegoTonren: Or 'sudo rmmod bcm43xx; sudo modprobe bcm43xx'06:23
Tonrencafuego: I already removed bcom AND ndiswrapper because neither worked06:24
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cafuegoTonren: bcom needs this firmware to work.06:24
pushpopIs there a Wiki on how to install in vmware on a seperate partition from windows, then  boot nativly into ubuntu?06:24
user1I just had to use sudo06:24
Tonrencafuego: Gah, I shouldn't have removed BCom after all.  ERROR: Module bcm43xx does not exist in /proc/modules06:24
cafuegoTonren: That's fine, just ignore that. modprobe it and voila06:24
Tonrencafuego: sweet.06:25
Tonrencafuego: OK, so, now do I restart?  And it's supposed to just work?06:25
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bruenigpushpop, I don't think that is possible, from what I have seen vmware creates virtual machines, it doesn't make an actual physical representation of all of the files that you can access06:25
el_ismapushpop: I don't get what you want to do, could you explain a bit?06:25
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Tonrencafuego: NO wait!  There it is!  eth1!06:25
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cafuegoTonren: No, it you just modprobe'd the bcm43xx module, you need not restart. 'iwconfig' should now list the device.06:25
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cafuegoTonren: 'sudo iwlist eth1 scan'06:26
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Tonrencafuego: eth1 Interface doesn't support scanning : No such device06:26
mitrovarrhey guys, I'm running a really minimalistic laptop on xubuntu.  Anyone have any special advice on how to keep the memory usage down aside from the obvious?  (i.e. I know not to run everything at once like a dumbass.)06:26
Tonrencafuego: eth1 clearly exists in iwconfig's output06:26
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cafuegoTonren: Ooh, special! ;-)06:27
Tonrencafuego: I know, I'm just too unique.06:27
bruenigmitrovarr, don't use memory heavy applications :P06:27
RoninGurldoes this 6.06.1 release perhaps just have the updates ive already downloaded anyway perhaps? i have ubuntu upadate daily.06:27
user1bruenig: it was just that su stopped working for some reason. I had to use sudo06:27
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mitrovarrheh... firefox doesn't like running on this.  It will, but it doesn't exactly fly06:27
cafuegoRoninGurl: Then there will not be anything newer on the cd.06:27
geoffTheFishis there a CLI command to open a file with its default app?06:27
brueniguser1, you are supposed to use sudo?06:27
mitrovarrtrying opera to see if it'll do better06:27
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mercykillermitrovarr, remove any uneeded services from init06:27
TonrengeoffTheFish: I've been searching for one of those for a while06:27
TonrengeoffTheFish: OS X has an "open" command06:28
Saminerudoes anyone know how to acquire a screenshot that includes a currently playing file?06:28
Samineru*currently playing .mov file06:28
mitrovarrmercykiller:  good idea, I'll go dig around and see if anything I don't need is there06:28
geoffTheFishTonren: yeah, also if you use the fish command line06:28
brueniguser1, ubuntu uses sudo not su06:28
TonrengeoffTheFish: fish command line?06:28
RoninGurlcafuego, i haventn updated to 6.06.1...but i mean ive downloaded over 200 MB of updates since installing 6.06 LTS.06:28
Tonrenbruenig: You can be a heathen and use sudo su if you want, though06:28
hyperstreamahh anyone know how link blocks work for unreal ? if so please msg me06:28
user1bruenig: I had been using it06:28
Tonrencafuego: Any hints?  I'm further than I got before, but now I'm stumped.06:28
brueniguser1, you can use su if you setup a root account also06:28
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cafuegoTonren: Does 'iwconfig' list anything useful?06:29
Tonrencafuego: I'll pastebin it06:29
el_ismabruenig: user1: you can always do "sudo su" :P06:29
geoffTheFishTonren: yeah you need to install it then you can have a slightly slower but more featured command line experience06:29
j_jcan anyone help me on installaing Ubuntu in VMWare ?06:29
geoffTheFishj_j i did it last week06:29
j_jhi geoff06:30
Tonrencafuego: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2024706:30
Dr_WillisThe fish shell has a feature that does that geoffTheFish06:30
TonrengeoffTheFish: What kind of features?06:30
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mitrovarrmercykiller:  I'm not totally familiar with all linux services.  Any particular ones that stick out as being unnecessary and memory sucking?06:30
j_jIm runing a Winxp OS06:30
geoffTheFishTonren: 'open' for one06:30
TonrengeoffTheFish: ahh06:30
cafuegoTonren: Ok, just a single eth1. Can you paste 'ifconfig' as well?06:30
j_jand i would like to install ubuntu on my VMWARE Server06:30
geoffTheFishTonren: stands for friendly interactive shell06:30
TonrengeoffTheFish: I saw, in the repos06:31
Tonrencafuego: eth1 does not show up in ifconfig06:31
Tonrencafuego: jesus god06:31
Tonrencafuego: sudo ifconfig eth1 up06:31
geoffTheFishTonren: tis ok but slower so i never use really06:31
cafuegoTonren: it will be 'ifconfig -a' though ;-)06:31
TonrenMy blue wireless button just went on06:31
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cafuegohey ho06:31
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Tonrencafuego: OK, it scanned, but it's not picking up my wireless network06:31
cafuegoTonren: First: 'sudo iwconfig eth1rate 11M '06:32
mercykillermitrovarr, not particularly, at least in my experience. The services used by big desktops are the worst, but XFCE is pretty fast.06:32
user1bruenig: I thought there was no root acount in ubuntu ?06:32
el_ismaanybody can help me with my bridge problem? Somehow when I add the bridge "route" hangs, and I don't get my default (to my router) route...06:32
cafuegowith a space between 'rate' and 'eth1'06:32
mercykillermitrovarr, you can always remove cups and such if you don't need printing06:32
brueniguser1, there isn't by default but it can be set up06:32
cafuegouser1: There is, it's just not used.06:32
cafuegouser1: .. and not needed.06:32
selfharmi am looking at ultravnc to connect to dapper from windows. do i need to install the server, or does it come packaged with some sort of remote connection server?06:33
mitrovarrmercykiller:  I'm a little reluctant to do that since I'm mostly preparing this laptop for someone else who may need printing and won't be able to fix that sort of thing06:33
el_ismamitrovarr: If you *really* want RAM, try fluxbox :)06:33
eternalswdhow do I reload .zshrc?06:33
cafuegoTonren: And 'sudo iwconfig eth1 ap any'06:33
mercykillermitrovarr, it's not really necesary anyway06:33
Tonrencafuego: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2024806:33
user1bruenig: thanks for the help06:33
el_ismamitrovarr: Ain't pretty, but's small!06:33
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geoffTheFishj_j: i installed u under vmware on xp06:33
Tonrencafuego: I should use "ap" instead of "essid"?06:33
mall0chow do i disable screen locking when i close the lid on my laptop?06:33
geoffTheFishj_j: it was a pain, the livecd ran like a dog06:34
mercykillermitrovarr, like el_isma said, you could run a lightweight window manager06:34
mitrovarrel_isma:  Is it easy to get fluxbox going in ubuntu?  I've had bad experiences trying to get any window manager going but gnome/kde/xfce06:34
user1cafuego: thanks for the help06:34
rexini'm trying to get read only access for all users... from fstab: "/dev/sda2 /media/osx hfsplus rw,exec,auto,users 0 0" anybody know what it should be?06:34
Tonrenmitrovarr: i did 'sudo aptitude install fluxbox' and it worked fine06:34
mitrovarrTonren:  Great, I'll do that06:34
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el_ismamitrovarr: I haven't tried fluxbox in ubuntu... But I used to run it under Debian... It ran just fine.06:34
j_jso did you succefully06:34
cafuegoTonren: the 'ap any' should make it scan06:34
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pushpopIs there a Wiki on how to install in vmware on a seperate partition from windows, then  boot nativly into ubuntu?06:34
geoffTheFishj_j: i had to stop all unnecessry services, create a custom vmx as default didnt work06:34
geoffTheFishj_j: then it worked06:35
|thunderwassup all06:35
bruenigpushpop, it can't be done06:35
mercykillermitrovarr, openbox is the absolute lightest on RAM in my experience, but fluxbox is a tad snappier06:35
el_ismapushpop: What do you want to do? Please explain06:35
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mitrovarrhas anyone tried getting ubuntu going on anything <64mb?  This is 64mb, and it runs, lots of swapping though.06:35
geoffTheFishj_j: now i can use my winmodem from u06:35
Tonrencafuego: Did you look at my second pastebin? the bitrate change didn't work06:35
j_jim still trying to06:35
Saminerucan someone walk me through installing xanim?06:35
j_jdodownload the ubuntu Virtual appliances but problem is i cant open it using06:35
bruenigel_isma, he wants to use vmware in windows to create an ubuntu virtual machine, store that virtual machine on another partition and then boot into that partition06:35
j_jazureus @geoff06:35
geoffTheFishj_j: gotta go, good luck it is possible...06:35
bruenigwhich can't be done I am almost possible06:35
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el_ismamitrovarr: I don't think you can get X in less than 32 Mb (at least, not a recent one)06:36
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Tonrencafuego: sudo iwconfig eth1 rate 11M worked (i change m to M)06:36
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pushpopel_isma: I am installing via vmware on a new partition I created.  I need to know how to partition the drive in vmware also I want to be able to dual boot in with windows so I want to boot into ubuntu nativly06:36
mitrovarrel_isma:  I wonder if you could do it in some wierd distro like DSL06:36
el_ismabruenig: Vmware does have a weird option about enabling "native" access to a partition. It says it's risky...06:37
el_ismamitrovarr: DSL would probably run in 32Mb06:37
Tonrencafuego: The wireless signal is definitely strong enough; a laptop in the other room is picking it up.  I'm still not picking it up here, though06:37
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earthsoundwhat is the partitioning program that Ubuntu uses on the alternate install CD?06:37
mitrovarrel_isma:  I'll have to try that someday if I ever find a 32mb computer.  it's fun to try to get modern software to run on old machines... I once saw a 486 running quake2 in 16 colors06:38
|thunderwho can help me compile and install native wireless drivers. I have them. It's a makefile and a bunch of .h files. i have build-ess install from the dapper cd.06:38
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bruenigI have used vmware to install windows and I went into the directory where windows was and it was just a bunch of foreign files with indecipherable data, nothing there that resembled a windows filesystem, so I assumed. It seems unlikely06:38
el_ismapushpop: You could try adding the drive as "native" (I think you need vmware server for that). BUT! Beware, it says it's risky!06:38
bruenigpushpop. why not just install ubuntu on the other partition and dual boot after that?06:38
cafuegoTonren: Ok, check back on the wiki page and run through the debug options.06:38
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mitrovarroh yeah, one last question:   Anyone know a web browser that's a decent combination of fast, light, and good?  Firefox and Opera are too heavy, dillo sucks too much.06:38
pushpopBecause It hangs on Mouting Disk on install06:38
pushpopwhen I try to install nativly06:38
bruenigpushpop, get the alternate cd06:39
el_ismamitrovarr: just checked, minimum ram for DSL is 16Mb06:39
Tonrencafuego: Would it not show up if I have DHCP disabled?06:39
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el_ismamitrovarr: lynx? :S06:39
mitrovarrtext?  ugh06:39
pushpopbruenig: I did I have tried 2 diffrent cds06:39
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cafuegoTonren: No, it win't auto-associate, you need to tel it about tour essid (and wep key) before dhcp will even be attempted.06:40
Madpilotmitrovarr, try Epiphany, it seems a bit faster than Firefox (Opera seems faster than FF too, for me...)_06:40
mall0ccan anyone tell me how to disable screen locking when i close the lid on my laptop?06:40
bruenigpushpop, how long did you give it before you decided it had hung06:40
el_ismamitrovarr: links? I know there was one that could do some pictures (under X or framebuffer)06:40
dcnstrctcould someone help me figure out what is wrong with my system ? Whenever I do an apt-cache search <anything> I get a segfault.  Whenever I load up a huge app like eclipse I get a seg fault... I thought this may be bad ram, so I REPLACED ALL MY RAM, but alas it still happens.  Any ideas ?06:40
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cafuegodcnstrct: cpu overheating?06:40
pushpopbruenig: atleast 20 minutes06:40
Tonrencafuego: But I have "broadcast essid" enabled and it's not showing up in iwlist06:40
mitrovarrwell, thanks for all the help guys!  Going to go try fluxbox and see if I can find a way to open up some ram06:40
doughboyIs there any way that a laptop connected through a wireless router can access printer from desktop that is hardwired to the wireless router?06:41
cafuegoTonren: Hmm... does 'dmesg' say anythingbout the wireless?06:41
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pushpopbruenig: ill give you exact error 1 sec06:41
dcnstrctcafeugo, doesn't that normally produce a system crash though ? why would it only cause certin apps to fail ?06:41
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|thundermalloc, ststem, prefs, power mangment06:41
Tonrencafuego: No.  Just the dreadful sense_key: 0x02 error I've had since I first installed Ubuntu 9 months gao06:41
bruenigpushpop, you have tried the alternate cd? that is the one that is all text. No live cd boot up.06:41
pushpopbruenig: O i havent, where could I dl that from06:41
cafuegodcnstrct: SOmetimers, it's a bit odd in that respect.06:41
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cafuegoTonren: Hmmm. I'd say try a reboot.06:42
Tonrencafuego: Sure enough06:42
dcnstrctwell that definatly could be it... I leave this thing on all the time06:42
Tonrencafuego: BTW, you wouldn't happen to know WTF this means, would you?: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2025006:42
dcnstrctI'll try giving it some shuteye06:42
pushpopbruenig: nm dumb question.. ok ill try that06:42
Tonrencafuego: It happens every two seconds.  If I exit X and go into single-user mode, it just keeps happening06:42
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Tonrencafuego: It happens during boot-up, during shutdown.  It's just always happening06:42
bruenigpushpop, it is pretty easy to use make sure you allow it to install grub to the master boot record as that is necessary for the dual boot06:43
Tonrencafuego: I don't know what hdc is.  I only have one hard drive, and I'm pretty sure it's not my cdrom.06:43
cafuegoTonren: Yes, it's the cdrom.06:43
Tonrencafuego: What could be wrong with it?  What is a sense-key?06:43
Tonrencafuego: Wait, Google may be my savior06:43
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Tonrencafuego: Oooh, it's because of this stupid lightscribe sticker.  I don't even know what that does06:44
cafuegoYou could always unload the cdrom driver.06:44
{K}Lubbyarrrrrrrg i STILL can't figure out what the problem is06:44
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Tonrencafuego: But... then I wouldn't be able to use my cd-rom?06:45
TonrenPyromaniak: What game?06:45
{K}Lubbyis it possible to have a lan between a windows xp computer and a ubuntu computer using a crossover ethernet cable?06:45
PyromaniakTonren: Continuum06:45
pushpopbruenig: ok thank you.06:45
yossmanlubby yea06:45
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{K}Lubbyyossman, how?06:46
yossmanwhat's your definition of 'LAN'06:46
yossmanwhat are you trying to do06:46
TonrenPyromaniak: NOOOOOOOOO!! Continuum doesn't work with Wine?!!06:46
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azureallol...i just went through a _lot_ of debfoster prompts06:46
cafuegoTonren: Correct, until you loaded the driver again.06:46
{K}Lubbyhook the two computers together, so that i can share the dsl internet connection on my xp with my ubuntu computer06:46
Tonrencafuego: Wouldn't it be a hassle to manually load and unload the driver every time I need to use the CD?  I mean, sure, I could write a script, but it just seems so... duct tape06:46
{K}Lubbybasically, so that they can both be hooked into the internet06:46
Tonrencafuego: Oop.  What do you think of this solution?  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=942785  Seems like it might work.  I'll TIAS.06:47
azurealnow it's removing enough packages to clear up 513mb.. idk if this irc chat program will eve work whene i'm done =P06:47
cafuegoTonren: It is exactly that.06:47
yossmanlubby, you don't have a router?06:47
{K}Lubbyand i got it to work with them both on xp, but i want one to have ubuntu06:47
{K}Lubbyand yeah yossman i do, but thats for my home network that has dsl06:47
PyromaniakTonren: I was playing it yesturday, and now I can't get it to work06:47
{K}Lubbyand im trying to set up a seperate one06:47
TonrenPyromaniak: Weird. It stopped working in Wine?  Did you upgrade anything?06:47
azureal*gulps nervously*06:47
yossmanlubby if you have the DSL working already in windows you can tell windows to share the connect06:47
PyromaniakTonren: yeah... can you accept /msg? I'll paste the story06:48
|thunderlspci lists the name of my pcmcia linksys wireless card, does that indicate that there isa working driver? the card is not listed in sys/admin/networking06:48
{K}Lubbyerr wait i think i did that already06:48
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{K}Lubbyit worked when both computers used xp06:48
TonrenPyromaniak: Go ahead06:48
{K}Lubbybut now that i put one (the one that isnt on the dsl network) to use ubuntu06:48
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cafuego|thunder: No, it just means the pci id is known.06:48
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{K}Lubbyand i can't get the xp and ubuntu to connect because when i try using a static ip on ubuntu it gives me an error06:49
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|thundercafuego, it lists the manufacturer and chipset properly.06:49
{K}Lubbyand btw, i haven't actually isntalled ubuntu yet, just running it off the disc i burned from the iso off ubuntu.com06:49
{K}Lubbydoes that make a difference... rofl?06:49
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cafuego|thunder: Yes, that's just a matter of add it to the 'pci.ids' file.06:49
cafuego|thunder: It bears no relation to it having a driver.06:50
azurealthis is so trippy... half my applications in fluxbox don't work now =)06:50
|thunderok, thanks06:50
azurealrather, clicking on them from the menu ;)06:50
shawn_grimesHello, very new to Ubuntu, could someone tell me how to swap out a xorg.conf file? It say I don't have permission to write to that folder?06:50
el_ismashawn_grimes use sudo06:50
el_ismashawn_grimes "sudo command", like "sudo mv xorg.conf xorg.old"06:51
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ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.06:51
el_ismashawn_grimes sudo gives you root powers06:51
shawn_grimesel_isma: I'm sorry, but I'm a native Windows user and no good with terminal commands :(06:51
{K}Lubbyyossman, when i hit the okay button after putting in the static ip settings it says: could not enable the interface eth0. check that the settings are correct for this network and that the computer is correctly connected to it06:51
el_ismashawn_grimes it isn't that hard :)06:52
Dr_Willis'use the shell luke! Give in to the Bash!'06:52
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Tonrenshawn: Don't be intimidated by the console; it's easy to tame once you understand a few core concepts.  The concept of "permissions" exists in Windows as well, just less obviously06:52
azurealshell is where it's at, lol06:52
{K}Lubbyanyone know how to fix it?06:52
el_ismashawn: never used DOS?06:52
shawn_grimesnot at all06:52
GoDawgsfollowed your directions... and for the first time I was able to activate the eth1.... it shows up... but for some reason I still can't get out06:52
azurealel_isma: don't bring up that garbage ;)06:52
Dr_Willisshawn,  check out   http://www.tldp.org/guides.html          - lots of guides to help ya there. (bookmark that site)06:53
el_ismaazureal: well... it's "console"y :P06:53
shawn_grimesI have a MacBook and I'm just trying to swap out that file to use my correct resolution with Parallels desktop06:53
GoDawgscafuego: I was soooo excited... because this is my only obstacle to using Ubuntu full time.06:53
{K}Lubbya possible problem i was thinking of is that im running ubuntu off the cd (the demo version type thingy) and haven't actually installed it yet06:53
eternalswdgnome terminal is still using bash even though I ran chsh /usr/bin/zsh  do I need to relogin for this to change?06:53
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cafuegoGoDawgs: yeah, there's some tweaking you may need to do for 4318 cards; I just dunno what, as I don't have one :-(06:53
azurealel_isma: it's nothing. it's.... bleh06:53
etzerdhello all06:53
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seshomarucan anyone tell me how to fix grub?06:54
azurealel_isma: and yet... i find myself using it for random things like "del *.png"06:54
etzerdcan anyone tell me how to install KDE in ubuntu6.0?06:54
{K}Lubby...anyone know why it won't let me set static ip stuff?06:54
cafuegoetzerd: install 'kubuntu-desktop'.06:54
Dr_Williseternalswd,   try 'xterm -ls'  it may only change for your login shell.06:54
el_ismaazureal: It's been so long since I used that... I guess nowadays I'll get quite scared :P06:54
GoDawgscafuego: well, I understand that... kinda bummed because my heart raced when I saw it show up in the dropdown box... but then I was let straight down when I could get google to come up.06:54
etzerdthanks cafuego06:54
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el_ismaazureal: but I do use the command prompt in windows... every now and then06:54
azurealtoday i've had enough of a fright, so now i'm not afraid of any consoles06:54
GoDawgscafuego: at least you were able to get me to the point where I can see it in the network dropdown06:54
cafuegoGoDawgs: Check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper (it list some possible fixes, added by people who have a 4318)06:54
GoDawgsok... let me give that a shot now...06:55
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etzerdone more thing cafuego06:55
flipfonewho was just helping me a few minutes ago?06:55
TheGameanybody have any success with ntfs-3g06:55
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harisundWhat is debfoster?06:55
cafuegoetzerd: yah?06:55
etzerdwhere can i go to install the driver for dvd06:55
cafuegoharisund: A handy decrufting tool.06:55
el_ismayeah, what's debfoster?06:55
eternalswdDr_Willis, that also used bash06:56
Pizondebfoster looks like a good way to get yaself in trouble06:56
TheGamehas any1 here installed ntfs-3g06:56
azurealshawn_grimes, excellent linux tutorial series called "Linux Survival"06:56
cafuegoetzerd: As in: to watch video?06:56
Dr_Williseternalswd,  yea.. noticing that also. :P06:56
Dr_Williseternalswd,  not sure what the deal is. heh.. make a new profile that runs the shell ya want. I perfer the 'fish' shell myself.06:56
el_ismaI get it... for finding "Orphan" debs.... :)06:56
etzerdI know they have a site where you can go just copy and past I forgert the URL address06:56
cafuegoetzerd: Ah, easyubuntu.06:56
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cafuegoetzerd: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/06:57
Dr_Willis chsh changes the user login shell. This determines the name of the users initial login command.06:57
{K}Lubbyis ubuntu the best version of linux for just using stuff like browsing the internet? (it has to be able to connect with a crossover ethernet cable to my windows xp computer so i have internet access on it)06:57
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cafuego{K}Lubby: Any version of Linux will be able to do that.06:57
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|thunderis there a tool to easily configure ndiswrapper? for choosing which AP to connect to ?06:58
{K}Lubbyso is there a valid reason why it's not working?06:58
Frankensteinhow can i flush the local dns cache in ubuntu?06:58
Dr_Williseternalswd,  try it at the console.. it used the new shell there for me. :P06:58
cafuego|thunder: If you're in Gnome, try 'network-manager'06:58
cafuego{K}Lubby: Routing not working, windows not sharing network, no dns server... those are the usuals.06:58
ubuntuHey everyone, I'm having troubles with my iMac G3. I am trying to install dapper, and after I do the known change to xorg.conf*changing the horiszontal and vertical settings* and try to restart gdm...it fails. Does anyone have any idea what I am doing wrong? That and for some reason my computer screen is cutting off 2 characters off of the left side.06:58
el_ismaI want to set up a bridge between my two eth. cards.... I think they hate each other and don't want to talk anymore :( They cut me off the internet everytime I try to bridge them... "Route" hangs when they're bridged. Help :'(06:58
UnknownEvilCan someone tell me how to set up my wireless network card? I coulnd't conncect to the internet when I booted up my PC with the Live cd.06:58
|thundercafuego, thanks06:59
Samineruthe instructions for compiling xanim are a bit confusing, could someone help me?06:59
eternalswdDr_Willis, I figured it out. I'm running zsh as a custom command rather than my shell06:59
{K}Lubbyhow do i get to /etc/hosts?06:59
Dr_Williseternalswd,  heh.06:59
Frankenstein{K}Lubby, sudo nano /etc/hosts06:59
GoDawgscafuego: oh my god dude....06:59
GoDawgsI'm so happy I can't see straight.07:00
{K}Lubbywhats working godawgs?07:00
GoDawgsMy god this has been a thorn in my side for a year.07:00
azureala year!07:00
GoDawgs{K}Lubby:  My broadcom 4318...07:00
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ubotuI know nothing about xanim - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu07:00
GoDawgsazureal: yep... cafuego is a god!!!07:00
azurealGoDawgs: that's a bad wireless card, right? lol07:01
GoDawgscafuego: dude, you rock!!!07:01
cafuegoGoDawgs: *whee!*07:01
{K}Lubbyand in /etc/hosts, is localhost the ip of the gateway/router type thing, or the ip of that computer that /etc/hosts is on?07:01
eternalswdDr_Willis under Edit -> Current Profile  in the tab Title and Command  I checked "Run a custom command instead of my shell"  and typed in zsh for the "Custom command"07:01
GoDawgsazureal: misbehaving yes!!!07:01
Frankensteinhow can i flush the local dns cache in ubuntu?07:01
GoDawgsazureal: sadly, I bought this computer when I knew nothing about linux...07:01
Dr_Williseternalswd,  thats one way. :P i set up that for mc, and screen, and other tools as well.07:01
cafuegoGoDawgs: If there is anything you needed to do that wasn't mentioned on the wiki, please add it.07:02
{K}Lubbyanyone know what localhost refers to?07:02
Frankenstein{K}Lubby, your computer07:02
GoDawgscafuego: you know, the very last post in the wiki is what I needed...07:02
azurealGoDawgs: you could always buy a nice wireless card =)07:02
azureal*cough* orinoco07:02
GoDawgsazureal: I thought I had... I bought an external...07:02
Tonren{K}Lubby: It refers to "itself" .  localhost is a computer's way of saying "me" or "myself"07:02
{K}Lubbyokay thought so07:02
pushpopTHe swap partition is that Primary or logical?07:02
cafuegoazureal: orinocos (silver) are 16bit yaargh07:02
Frankensteinso no one knows how to flush the dns?!07:02
{K}Lubbyso i want that ip address to be the ip address i want that computer to be, right?07:03
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TonrenFrankenstein: Ubuntu keeps a local DNS cache...?  I thought you had to specifically set that up07:03
GoDawgsazureal: my god this is beautiful...07:03
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Tonren{K}Lubby: Actually, localhost shoulda lways be
azurealwhat was the solution?07:03
GoDawgsnever thought i would be so freakin' stoked by a wlan :)07:03
{K}Lubbywhy tonren?07:03
pushpopQuestion, The swap partition is the Primary or Logical?07:03
ubuntuAnyone? Any help? Right now I am talking on this board from console. :-/ and well I want to get my computer fully working asap :(07:03
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Tonren{K}Lubby: Whenever a computer accesses, it knows it should be looking for itself. is the default IP for localhost.07:03
GoDawgsazureal: are you asking me?07:03
Frankensteinubuntu, you would have to ask a question07:03
{K}Lubbycause i want it to be 192.168.0.something-other-than-1 so it can connect to my xp07:03
ubuntuI did...07:04
Frankensteinubuntu, ask it again07:04
azurealGoDawgs: yea, the original solution, the original 'directions'07:04
Tonren{K}Lubby: Ah.  Well, that IP address will be associated with your network card, rather than localhost.07:04
xquizithey, I got a simple question, I downloaded the Murrine Gtk2 Cairo Engine  from gnome-look and I have no clue how to use it, I downloaded the deb package and it installed fine, but how do I use it??07:04
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Tonren{K}Lubby: Are both computers connected to the same router?07:04
azurealGoDawgs: did it involve editing /etc/network/interfaces?07:04
octoberwhat is the best way to check a drive in Linux to see if it's OK?07:04
GoDawgsazureal: sure...https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper07:04
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GoDawgsazureal: no not at all07:05
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{K}Lubbytonren, im using a crossover cable to connect them together.... same thing basically as having them connected together through a hub07:05
GoDawgsi just needed the firmware... then a few more steps and then to use the sudo ifconfig eth1 down  sudo ifconfig eth1 up commands07:05
ubuntuI am on an iMac G3, and I switched the horizontal and vertical settings in xorg.conf as I had done previously when I installed ubuntu. But this time when I tried restarting gdm it failed to start. Can anyone help me fix my computer to actually work?07:05
GoDawgsand bingo i am surfin' the net07:05
azurealGoDawgs, oh yea, i saw that link, but i was wondering what directions he gave you before that ;)07:05
Tonren{K}Lubby: ahh.  I haven't worked with cross-over cables before.  i'm not entirely sure how that woul dwork07:05
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octoberGoDawgs heh, I'm in Macon07:05
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GoDawgsoctober: i just moved here from southern california07:06
|thunderive scanned the foums and cannot for the life of me figure out how to build or instsall this native wireless driver.07:06
{K}Lubbytonren its the exact same as using a hub or soemthing similar07:06
mysticso...nobody know how to confgure gtk-engines?07:06
GoDawgsoctober: that's very cool :)07:06
octoberGoDawgs nice... I used to live in the bay area, so there we go ;)07:06
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Tonren{K}Lubby: Well, a cross-over cable usually doesn't know how to run a DHCP server and assign IP addresses to the computers connected to it.  :P07:06
GoDawgsoctober: I grew up here in Stone Mountain but have been away for 12 years...07:06
|thunderWhat do I do the a MAKEFILE and a bunch  of .h files ?07:06
azurealthing is, i was struggling very badly getting my intel wireless card to work under gentoo07:06
ubuntuOh and sorry my name is ubuntu, I dont know how to change it07:06
GoDawgsoctober: right on!  My fiancee is from Santa Cruz.07:06
azurealblah, bad sentence structure07:06
GoDawgsazureal: Man, I sooooo understand.07:06
el_ismaubuntu: i think it's /name yourname07:06
Tonren|thunder: There's a special command called "make" which uses a Makefile as a set of rules to take the .h files and build them into an actual program07:06
|thunderubuntu use /nick name07:06
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octoberGoDawgs ;)  catch me as "Trae"  (my name) on #ubuntu-offtopic sometime07:07
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GoDawgsoctober: will do :)07:07
mikegUbugtu:  wat to do if my sata drives are not detected07:07
octobernot now though... trying to fix this damned laptop07:07
tanlaanthere we go :D07:07
|thunderTonren, ive tried that. make and make MAKEFILE07:07
|thunderjust errors07:07
azurealGoDawgs: you do? did you have to make crazy kernel changes and recompile?  ;)07:07
mikegtanlaan:   wat to do if my sata drives are not detected07:07
TheGameis there a way to change shift+ctrl+v in terminal to just ctrl+v07:07
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GoDawgsoctober: I'm Kelley.  Nice to meet you.07:07
Tonren|thunder: you'll have a hell of a time building them without knowing which packages you need installed to do it, though07:07
GoDawgsazureal: no, i'm not that ballzy....07:07
Tonren|thunder: Is there a list of "dependencies" on the site you downloaded them from?07:07
octoberGoDawgs backatcha ;)07:07
tanlaanmikeg: what?07:07
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azureali kept trying to get that card to work that i broke gentoo07:07
GoDawgsbrb... have to call my fiancee and share the good news :)07:08
Tonren{K}Lubby: Are both of the computers connected to the internet...?07:08
{K}Lubbytonren, can you tell me how to set up the ip address to, gateway ip to, subnet mask to, dns server to
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octobermeh....  bbl07:08
Tixerum, ubuntu doesn't work for me anymore07:08
Tixeranyone wanna PM me?07:08
mikegtanlaan:  my SATA drives are not detected. whats lacking?07:08
|thunderTonren, its the only non-ndiswrwapper reference i can find. came in some sort of d-link linux distro. i dont know. but the readme's are useless in the tar.gz07:08
azurealand now i might have done something suicidal07:08
Tixerkstartupconfig = dead07:08
MadpilotTixer, you're better off to just ask your questions here07:08
tanlaanmikeg: sorry I have no idea.07:09
Tonren|thunder: Your wireles sis'nt broadcom, is it?07:09
Tixerhang on, I'll copy the message...07:09
Tonren{K}Lubby: I'm pretty sure you can do all that using "sudo ifconfig"07:09
azurealyea, proceed Tixer07:09
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{K}Lubbytonren, the xp is connected to the internet through a different network that i'm not allowed to hook the ubuntu directly into, so im hooking the ubuntu up to the xp and having the xp share the internet connection with the ubuntu (i already got this to work when the ubuntu was using xp, but i want to have an ubuntu computer)07:09
mikegtanlaan: its okay07:09
Tonren{K}Lubby: For example, "sudo ifconfig eth0 gateway"07:09
|thunderTonren, no, Chipset: Linksys, A Division of Cisco Systems [AirConn]  INPROCOMM IPN 2220 Wireless LAN Adapter (rev 01)07:09
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Tonren{K}Lubby: Or "sudo ifconfig eth0 address"07:09
Tixerbooting VPC07:09
Tonren{K}Lubby: that MIGHT not work though07:09
sethkit is07:10
Tonren|thunder: ndiswrapper didn't work for you?07:10
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sethk{K}Lubby, ifconfig eth0 netmask
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Tonrensethk: It'll work without an argument?07:10
tanlaanIs there anything I need to change in xorg.conf other than the horizontal and vertical settings? Maybe I need to get a different version of the Dapper install *This is the live cd instead of the install*07:10
|thunderive never use ndiswrapper.07:10
sethkTonren, yes, I tried it here before I pasted it07:10
Tonrensethk: Cool.  What about default gateway, though?  do you need to do sudo ifconfig eth0 gateway?07:10
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Tonrensethk: cool07:10
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Tonren|thunder: Maybe you should try ndiswrapper.  It won't involve building anything from source, which is like pulling teeth07:11
mikegcycom: hi07:11
sethkTonren, sudo route add default gw ###.###.###.###07:11
Tonren|thunder: Go to wiki.ubuntu.com and search for "Ndiswrapper"07:11
sethkTonren, where ###.###.###.### is the gateway's IP address07:11
{K}Lubbyhey tonren i got a problem07:11
Tonrensethk: Sweet.07:11
Tonren{K}Lubby: Aye?07:11
{K}Lubbyit says SIOcSIFFLAGS: resource temporarily unnavailable07:11
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{K}Lubbyafter i did the sudo ifconfig eth0 netmask
Tonren{K}Lubby: on what command?07:12
Tonren{K}Lubby: hmm.. sethk any words of wisdom?07:12
sethk{K}Lubby, do ifconfig (no arguments) and paste the results07:12
{K}Lubbyyou mean do sudo ifconfig?07:12
sethk{K}Lubby, eth0 is locked up for some reason07:12
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sethk{K}Lubby, no sudo is necessary because you are just printing the configuration, not changing it07:12
Tonren{K}Lubby: use pastebin to paste the results and link us from here07:13
{K}Lubbyuhhh theres a bunch of lines, give me a few to type them07:13
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)07:13
Tonren{K}Lubby: just copy & paste them into pastebin and give us the link to the page.  :)07:13
sethk{K}Lubby, do this:   ifconfig > some-file-name07:13
{K}Lubbytonren, i can't do that if the ubuntu can't connect to the internet...07:13
Tonren{K}Lubby: oh snap07:13
|thunderTonren, I am trying to install this card on a laptop for some ive crossed over to linux. she knows nothing. so I want it to be  easy. are you sure Network-Manager works with ndiswrapper ? i mean, once ndiswrapper is up and running does it function just like a native driver? As in, super easy config when swithcing APs and encryption.07:13
sethk{K}Lubby, sure you can.  use a usb stick or whatever07:13
Tixerkk, so I go to login, and I get the message after typing my password...07:13
{K}Lubbyoh yeah duh seth07:14
sethk{K}Lubby, you must have something.07:14
Tonren|thunder: I'm fairly certain it does.  I had ndiswrapper running a while ago, and it worked fine with the network manager GUI.07:14
sethk{K}Lubby, if you reboot you will clear whatever has eth0 locked07:14
Tixercould not start kstartupconfig. Check your install.07:14
{K}Lubbymp3 player = flash drive > all07:14
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{K}Lubbyseth, i tried rebooting once07:14
{K}Lubbybut i have an idea what has it locked *laughs at self*07:14
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Tonren{K}Lubby: what might have it locked?07:14
GoDawg1sorry about that guys...07:14
|thunderTonren, thank you again.07:14
sethk{K}Lubby, ok ...07:14
GoDawg1I had to reboot...07:14
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GoDawg1cafuego: could you send me that wiki link you sent me last?07:15
{K}Lubbydoes the fact that im running ubuntu off a cd i burned from an iso file from linux.org make a difference? i mean running the live cd thingy instead of actually instlaling it07:15
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mikegTonren: hi tonren.. can i ask u07:15
GoDawg1I want to bookmark it so I can set up a few other people's computers using that method.07:15
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sethk{K}Lubby, for some things, yes.  but ifconfig should still work07:15
Tonren|thunder: You're welcome.  Remember, you'll need to run the "modprobe" command once you've installed ndiswrapper, then the driver, and you'll need to run "ndiswrapper -l" in terminal to make sure it's been installed properly.07:15
{K}Lubbyso it *might* make a difference?07:15
Tonrenmikeg: sup?07:15
sethk{K}Lubby, yes, it's possible07:15
Tonren{K}Lubby: it might.07:15
mikegTonren:  id like to ask, what to do  if my ubuntu 6.06 does not detect my SATA drive07:15
sethk{K}Lubby, I'm not saying it is likely, but it is possible07:16
{K}Lubbycause it seems like since its off a cd it would, cause you obviously can't save stuff like gateway info onto a cd once it's already burned07:16
Tonren{K}Lubby: Yea, you won't be able to edit system files like that.  But you should still be able to change network configurations07:16
Tonrenmikeg: Hmmmm...07:16
{K}Lubbythink i'll try doing that.... can i format/clean install ubuntu from hitting the little install button on the desktop?07:16
sethkmikeg, do lspci to find out what SATA chipset you have, then you may need to do an insmod for the kernel module for that chipset07:16
mikegTonren: its unknown07:16
GoDawg1cafuego: i'm sorry that request for a link was directed at you.  I didn't attach your name to it.07:16
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cafuegogodawg: hehe, if you don't do that, my irc client doesn't beep at me :-)07:17
cafuegoGoDawgs:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper07:17
{K}Lubbyyour irc beeps at you when someone says your name?07:17
el_ismasethk: You're back :). I tried making the bridge and using route. Route just hangs, doesn't show my default route (it displays all others, no mention of eth1 either). Any idea?07:17
Tonren{K}Lubby: mine too07:17
byenhey fellas.. I broke my terminal :( my terminal open in "/" rather than home... how can i fix this.. Please help.07:17
GoDawg1cafuego: i figured that's why I sent you the message to follow up.  Thank you so much!  If I knew you better, I'd kiss ya'!07:17
Tixerwhats the command to create a folder in konsole?07:17
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sethkel_isma, that's could be trying to use DNS to resolve an IP to a name.  let me check route and see if that's possible07:17
cafuegoeww, girls germs.07:17
Tonrenmikeg: try this command:  lspci | grep -i "sata"07:17
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cafuegonot to mention my wife would kill me ;-)07:18
jrojas_ de ayuda07:18
mikegTonren: thanks i'll this this07:18
sethkel_isma, yes.  use the -n flag with route, telling it to not try to resolve numbers to names07:18
Tixerwhats the command to create a folder in konsole?07:18
Tonrenmikeg: it won't fix anything - it'll just tell you what SATA driver you have07:18
{K}Lubbyweird, mine doesnt (i think)07:18
sethkTixer, mkdir07:18
TonrenTixer: mkdir07:18
{K}Lubbysomeone say my name07:18
sethkmy name07:18
Tonren{K}Lubby: testing07:18
Tixerso like mkdir /home/...07:18
Tonren{K}Lubby: which client are you using?07:18
Tixer... being a name?07:18
TonrenTixer: mkdir home will make a directory called home07:18
byenhey fellas.. I broke my terminal :( my terminal open in "/" rather than home... how can i fix this.. Please help.07:19
{K}Lubbynope didn't do it lol07:19
|thunderTonren, thanks again. im going to run through thiis tutorial. i might be back to pick your brain. ;p07:19
{K}Lubbyand im using swifswitch irc07:19
sethkTixer, yes, assuming /home/ exists.  You can use mkdirhier in case you are creating multiple levels at once.07:19
TonrenDoes anyone know how to make Xchat blink in the taskbar (to sent the "ALERT" signal) when it beeps?07:19
el_ismasethk: so, I should set the bridge again, and do route -n, and see what I get?07:19
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Tonren|thunder: I'm headin out soon, but I"m sure you'll be able to find someone who can help!07:19
sethkel_isma, yes07:19
Tixerthats the problem07:19
el_ismasethk: ok, brb07:19
Tixerhome doesn't exist07:19
sethkel_isma, I may get called away again...07:19
Tixerhence kstartup dying07:19
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mikegTonren: no results07:19
azurealbyen: what do you mean by 'broke'07:20
azurealbyen: what did you do07:20
{K}Lubbyis usa west coast gmt -8 or -7 right now?07:20
sethk{K}Lubby, 807:20
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byenazrael0, i do not know.. my terminal just starts into "/" and not in home..07:20
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{K}Lubbyfor ubuntu install, it says select a city in my timezone and country... what if i can't find one lol?07:21
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Tonren{K}Lubby: Ignore that crap, it messes up later anyway.07:21
sethkbyen, it starts in your home directory.  You can look at your home directory by dumping out /etc/passwd07:21
mitch_{K}Lubby, 7, 8 after daylight savings07:21
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{K}Lubbythat would explain why los angeles which is in my timezone showed up as gmt -707:21
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byensethk, you men delete /etc/passwd?07:22
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sethkbyen, no, cat /etc/passwd07:22
TixerI have a huge problem07:22
sethkbyen, to see what your home directory is set to07:22
TixerI need a space bar07:22
|thunderTonren, what does this mean ? "Used ndiswrapper -i WLINPDS.INF on Debian Sarge for the Linksys driver. Worked perfectly."07:22
Tixerhow do I create a space07:22
sethkbyen, deleting /etc/passwd would be a very bad thing to do  :)07:22
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TixerALT-32 doesn't work07:23
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sethkTixer, usually ' '   (either single quote space single quote, or double quote space double quote)07:23
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sethkTixer, on a command line07:23
TixerI don't have a space bar07:23
xeladosCould someone help me figure out "xset"'s usage?07:23
sethkTixer, you don't have a space bar?  what do you have?07:23
mikegsethk: how to use insmod?07:23
Tixera broken one07:23
xeladosI manpage'd it and it referred me to X(7), but I can't view that manpage.07:24
el_ismasethk: It didn't work :'(07:24
Tixer've been pressing ctrl v all this time07:24
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xeladosIt says it's undocumented.07:24
Tonren|thunder: That means ... wait... are you the person trying to use a null modem cable to connect two computers, or trying to get wireless working by building the driver from source, but i suggested to use ndiswrapper?07:24
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|thunderwireless / ndiswrapper07:24
sethkmikeg, if you know the module to insert, it is easy.  actually, use modprobe instead.   modprobe knows what directory to look in07:24
Tixerhow do I generate a space in terminal07:24
sethkmikeg, do you know what module to insert?07:24
Tixerwithout using the space bar07:24
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el_ismasethk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2025407:25
Tonren|thunder: OK, what have you done so far?07:25
{K}Lubbyokay, ubuntu is installing07:25
TonrenTixer: copy & paste one07:25
mikegsethk: im not sure what module to insert. i just want my SATA drive to be detected07:25
Tixeris there some numerical code to type?07:25
TonrenTixer: here: " "07:25
TonrenTixer: Highlight the apce, Ctrl + C to copy, enter terminal, Ctrl + Shift + V to paste07:25
TixerI can't copy it from windows to ubuntu07:25
CheetahMk2If I have to recompile the kernel, do I need the full source, or do I just need the headers?07:25
TonrenTixer: eep07:25
azurealactually, i'm not sure where you can change the directory you are presented with when you start bash =/07:25
byensethk, can you see this and tell me if this is ok? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2025507:25
Tixerubuntu = virtual07:25
sethkel_isma, the default route dest