[12:01] <Tux> i see something in blue called targetware
[12:01] <mwe> Tux: where did you download it to?
[12:01] <Tux> umm...
[12:01] <vbgunz> Anyone know a good program to scan a directory and find duplicates?
[12:01] <TheGateKeeper> backz: isn't that in the repos?
[12:01] <Tux> i told it to download it to desktop but it's not there
[12:01] <Tux> duh cuz it's hidden!
[12:01] <popey> Tux: cd ~/Desktop
[12:02] <mwe> Tux: I think you already extracted it to $PWD if you see targetware there
[12:02] <mwe> popey: I think he has already extracted it to ~
[12:02] <Tux> wait what?
[12:02] <backz> TheGateKeeper, only old version, gtk1
[12:02] <LDZ420> hey I tried to do the sudo apt-get update && and apt-get upgrade got partially done with the update and then said that it couldn't open /var/lib/dpkg because permission are denied
[12:03] <vbgunz> Can nautilus clean a cdrw/dvdrw? it has content but I would like to delete it and redo the cd/dvd... I thought nautilus could do this... is this possible? has the feature been removed in the latest dapper update or something?
[12:03] <Masqy> where is the /etc/rc2.d/S40networking file in ubuntu?
[12:03] <popey> LDZ420: only the update was run under sudo, not the upgrade
[12:03] <mwe> Tux: it's already extracted if you see targerware
[12:03] <Masqy> (The debian reference guide refers to it)
[12:03] <TheGateKeeper> backz: ok :-)
[12:03] <popey> LDZ420: just re-run sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:03] <Tux> ok so now what
[12:03] <Consty> Is anyone away of problems with characters like ' or @ and such in a SSID?
[12:03] <mxpxpod> cafuego: pign
[12:03] <mxpxpod> or, ping, rather
[12:04] <LDZ420> thx bratha
[12:04] <popey> Tux: it fails to run here... I get an error loading a shared library when I run targetware
[12:04] <mwe> Tux: try typing targetware/targetware
[12:04] <backz> TheGateKeeper, haha, using aptitude it question to downgrade libxfixes3
[12:04] <Tux> ok...
[12:05] <Tux> ash: targetware/targetware: No such file or directory
[12:05] <Tux> bash*: targetware/targetware: No such file or directory
[12:05] <popey> Tux: alan@hactar:~/Downloads/targetware$ ./targetware
[12:05] <Tux> t
[12:05] <mwe> Tux: where are you? type pwd
[12:05] <popey> ./targetware: error while loading shared libraries: libcurl.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:05] <LDZ420> popey: was it because I was trying to run both utilities in one command? would it have worked if I had placed a ; in between the 2 commands?
[12:05] <Tux> /home/falco/Desktop
[12:05] <popey> LDZ420: not sure how you do that properly actually :)
[12:05] <Boj> I'm in the process of chanign my xorg.conf. I'm using this guide: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/ChangeResolution . I've just made a custom modeline and am just wondering whereabouts in the "Monitor" section that i insert the line?
[12:05] <popey> LDZ420: it's just because it timed out your sudo
[12:06] <LDZ420> thx
[12:06] <popey> Boj: pretty much anywhere i think
[12:06] <LDZ420> popey
[12:06] <TheGateKeeper> backz: excellent :-) synaptic is very good to. take a look at this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=127587
[12:06] <Boj> But before it says EndSection?
[12:06] <vbgunz> ?cdrw
[12:06] <vbgunz> ?dvdrw
[12:06] <vbgunz> !cdrw
[12:06] <iqon> is there a command to translate a relative filepath to a full filepath?
[12:06] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[12:07] <apoth> Hey.
[12:07] <Tux> i typed in pwd and got this: /home/falco/Desktop
[12:07] <valehru> Hey guys, I want a cron job to automatically schedule an upload to a ftp server.  If I have the filename then what is the command to upload the file?
[12:07] <apoth> This might be inappropriate for this chan..
[12:07] <apoth> ...but I was wondering if any of you are using ubuntu on the macbook.
[12:07] <iqon> for example o translate ./Desktop to /home/falco/Desktop
[12:08] <popey> Tux: you on ubuntu dapper? I suspect targetware won't work, it won't run here
[12:08] <apoth> I don't use ubuntu, but it looks like a lot of people using the macbook are also using ubuntu.
[12:08] <Tux> dapper?
[12:08] <popey> Tux: you running ubuntu?
[12:08] <Tux> yeah
[12:08] <popey> Tux: I don't think it will work, I have just tried it here
[12:08] <Tux> hmm...
[12:09] <popey> Tux: it errors on startup, I had to do some hacking, and it still fails to stat - with a different error now
[12:09] <popey> it's not nice
[12:09] <backz> TheGateKeeper, ohh shitt! I'll get ruby on rails, mysql server and write my own money-administrator =P
[12:09] <smacky> god bless ubuntu desktop
[12:09] <Tux> what do i type to install it?
[12:09] <popey> Tux: you don't, you just run it
[12:09] <purple_cow> i've got an up-to-date dapper, and gdb is complaining that it can't find libtermcap.so.2.  any clues?
[12:09] <mwe> Tux: I just downloaded it myself. I'm having problems with missing libraries and I can't find them
[12:09] <Tux> how?
[12:10] <TheGateKeeper> backz: it's that bad?
[12:10] <Tux> yeah, my friend said it was hard to do
[12:10] <Boj> Once I have altered my xorg.conf do I just hit Ctrl + Alt + Backspace?
[12:10] <sethk> purple_cow, libncurses5-dev
[12:10] <popey> boj if you do that, X will close
[12:10] <popey> boj, well, restart
[12:10] <apoth> I guess no one does.
[12:10] <popey> boj, if that's what you want, then yes :)
[12:10] <Boj> Yeah the last time I did that it all went black
[12:10] <popey> apoth: i tried it
[12:10] <Boj> and then I was stuck,
[12:11] <backz> TheGateKeeper, isn't. but I haven't time =(
[12:11] <sethk> purple_cow, or, termcap-compat
[12:11] <Boj> Should I just do a normal restart then?
[12:11] <Tux> so i can't get it?
[12:11] <xevil> Boj: it doesn't matter one way or the other
[12:11] <AngryElf> is there a way i can save Gaim's window size/location?
[12:11] <mwe> Tux: the binary seems to be outdated
[12:12] <Tux> okay
[12:12] <mwe> Tux: it's two years old
[12:12] <Tux> which means?
[12:12] <xevil> the restart is quicker
[12:12] <TheGateKeeper> backz: well good luck with what ever you decide to do :-)
[12:12] <Tux> im a linux noob
[12:12] <purple_cow> no termcap-compat available, and libncurses5-dev doesn't seem to provide the .2 symlink.  i suppose i can symlink it by hand
[12:12] <jrib> AngryElf: try devilspie
[12:12] <mwe> Tux: it's depending on library versions not present anymore I think
[12:12] <sethk> purple_cow, I should.  I was checking against breezy, by the way
[12:12] <Boj> Ok thanks xevil, If i'm not back with success you'll know I've messed the xorg.conf again :P
[12:13] <Tux> well what did you do to install/run/extract/download or whatever
[12:13] <xevil> Boj: stuff happens
[12:13] <ych> uurghghh i hate it
[12:13] <Marupa> heya....just barely installed ubuntu...what's the default admin password?  it never asked me to set it.
[12:13] <Tux> when you got the error
[12:13] <sethk> purple_cow,  the link is in termcap-compat
[12:13] <ych> the worst thing about my switch to linux
[12:13] <sethk> purple_cow, only libtermcap.so is in libncurses5-dev
[12:13] <jrib> Marupa: it is your user password
[12:13] <ych> i miss photoshop so much
[12:13] <m4rk> ubuntu is the shit
[12:13] <jrib> !sudo > Marupa
[12:13] <Tux> gimp works like ps
[12:13] <m4rk> ych i can get the photoshop splash screen - yay me
[12:13] <sethk> ych, I can do pretty much anything in gimp that I can do in photoshop
[12:13] <Marupa> I see...
[12:13] <ych> i'd even rather use paint than gimp right now
[12:13] <Marupa> weird.
[12:13] <popey> mwe: I symbolically linked and got it past that error
[12:13] <mfabbri> hi, the last cupsys update broke ipp printing on my home server, is anybody experimenting anything similar?
[12:13] <ych> yeah it does everything
[12:13] <xevil> ych: can't stand The Gimp?
[12:13] <ych> but i cant  use it
[12:13] <ych> its so different
[12:13] <m4rk> i have started using gimp. for some reason it's OK
[12:14] <sethk> ych, of course, there is no reason you can't use photoshop, if that's what you want
[12:14] <Tux> well what did you do to install/run/extract/download or whatever
[12:14] <ych> for linux?
[12:14] <sethk> gimp is an excellent program
[12:14] <ych> cane i wine it?
[12:14] <popey> mwe: Tux sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libcurl.so.3 /usr/lib/libcurl.so.2
[12:14] <mwe> popey: the libstdc++ one?
[12:14] <mwe> popey: did that and got another
[12:14] <popey> no, libcurl
[12:14] <sethk> ych, no, for windows.  run windows and use photoshop, if that's the environment you need
[12:14] <ych> oh
[12:14] <ych> darn
[12:14] <ych> no i want linux
[12:14] <ych> trying to get off windows
[12:14] <Tux> falco@Smith:~/Desktop$ sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libcurl.so.3 /usr/lib/libcurl.so.2
[12:14] <Tux> ln: `/usr/lib/libcurl.so.2': File exists
[12:14] <sethk> ych, then stop complaining about photoshop
[12:14] <ych> just gonna be hard to relearn
[12:14] <Flannel> ych: you can get gimpshop, to make gimp look and feel more like photoshop
[12:14] <ych> hmmm
[12:15] <m4rk> does skype work with ubuntu?
[12:15] <mwe> Tux: install libcurl3 first
[12:15] <Flannel> !tell m4rk about skype
[12:15] <Tux> how?
[12:15] <popey> mwe: i get ./targetware: symbol lookup error: ./targetware: undefined symbol: alutInit
[12:15] <polpak> ych: or you can spend a little time using the gimp, and you'll get used to it
[12:15] <Marupa> also...how do I switch resolutions to higher than 1024?  it won't let me.
[12:15] <m4rk> i can't work out how to get gimpshop installed without it giving all sorts of warnings about deleting all sorts of shit that might be important
[12:15] <mwe> popey: I'm getting libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
[12:15] <cntb> m4rk: sure does
[12:15] <cry0gen> any of you have any issues with Xgl
[12:15] <m4rk> i mean to remove gimp first so i can install gimpshop
[12:15] <popey> mwe, I fixed that for another app a few months ago
[12:15] <cry0gen> and gtk apps
[12:15] <cry0gen> going ape shit on cpu usage
[12:15] <mwe> popey: oh probably due to the wrong version of libcurl
[12:15] <mwe> popey: how?
[12:15] <pushpop> Could anyone possibly link me to a how to, to dual boot with XP I have 2 partitions one for xp and other for ubuntu
[12:16] <cry0gen> i mena gnome-panel itself is taking up 42% of cpu
[12:16] <ych> arrghh i cant even copy a layer to an expanded canvas
[12:16] <m4rk> thanks Flannel
[12:16] <Flannel> !tell pushpop about dualboot
[12:16] <NemesisUK> anyone know how to share a printer between ubuntu machines
[12:16] <m4rk> is Flannel a bot?
[12:16] <ych> damn this is frustrating
[12:16] <pushpop> Thank you
[12:16] <ych> right now i feel i could be getting more done with mspaint
[12:16] <mwe> popey: how did you fix the libstdc++ error?
[12:16] <Marupa> dang...why the heck are these downloads going so freaking slow?
[12:16] <Marupa> x.x
[12:16] <cntb> 824 ppl in the room. about time 4 a second room
[12:16] <popey> mwe: finding notes, one mo
[12:16] <polpak> ych: try getting help in #gimp
[12:16] <Flannel> ych: there is OOo Draw ;)
[12:16] <Marupa> 16K/s  x.x
[12:16] <mwe> popey: ok
[12:16] <popey> mwe: sudo apt-get install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2
[12:16] <ych> ill try that :D
[12:16] <Tux> anyone?
[12:16] <mwe> popey: oh
[12:16] <ych> hmmm
[12:16] <mikolan> is it possible to run kTorrent with gnome?
[12:17] <Tux> how do i insrall that thin popey
[12:17] <jrib> ych: gimp is diferent than ps, so it will take some getting used to like any new program.  I've read that photoshop 7 works well in wine though if you really need it
[12:17] <mwe> popey: I think we need a proper libcurl2 though
[12:17] <cry0gen> mikolan: of course
[12:17] <cry0gen> :LP
[12:17] <Tux> i mean mwe
[12:17] <mikolan> ok good :)
[12:17] <popey> mwe: his is alright, and so is mine
[12:17] <polpak> ych: for vector graphics there's also inkscape
[12:17] <popey> mwe: i just linked my libcurl3 to libcurl2
[12:17] <Tux> "mwe Tux: install libcurl3 first" how?
[12:17] <mwe> popey: but you get an error
[12:17] <TheGateKeeper> pushpop: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6104490811311898236
[12:17] <popey> mwe: not related to libcurl though
[12:17] <mwe> popey: probably because you just linked it
[12:17] <popey> IMO
[12:17] <m4rk> ych what do you use photoshop for?
[12:18] <mwe> popey: are you sure?
[12:18] <popey> mwe: googling
[12:18] <Jack_Sparrow> FYI, I was/am running 386 kernel and I added the 686, the only problemn I found is that the system will do a shutdown but it does not turn itself off like the 386 does.  I checked and the 386 still shuts all the down the other stops
[12:18] <Marupa> anyone?
[12:18] <Tux> "mwe Tux: install libcurl3 first" how?
[12:18] <popey> mwe: yes, sure, alutInit is part of openal
[12:18] <mwe> popey: oh
[12:18] <popey> tux, we're working on it, hang on
[12:18] <Tux> aight thankd
[12:19] <mwe> popey: wrong openal version maybe then
[12:19] <_w^x_> I need a good secure p2p client/network any recommends?
[12:19] <popey> The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[12:19] <popey>   libopenal0a: Conflicts: libopenal0 but 0.2005080600-2.1build2 is to be installed
[12:19] <m4rk> _w^x_ stunnel
[12:19] <popey> looks a bit broken
[12:19] <jmh09> wx:try frostwire and gnutella
[12:19] <jmh09> never used anything else
[12:19] <mwe> popey: you can only have one of them I think
[12:19] <pushpop> Will Ubuntu install detect a serial ATA Drive automatically?
[12:20] <popey> mwe: yeah, doing only libopenal0
[12:20] <_w^x_> no a p2p client
[12:20] <jmh09> frostwire is built on limewire but its free with all features including speed unlocked
[12:20] <popey> yay!
[12:20] <jmh09> so its basically like limewire pro
[12:20] <popey> Tux: got it working :D
[12:20] <pushpop> Will Ubuntu install detect a serial ATA Drive automatically?
[12:20] <_w^x_> K cool
[12:20] <MystaMax> what is this the correct syntax for scp:    scp FILENAME username@hostname: ??what goes here???
[12:20] <popey> pushpop: depends on the card, if SATA Sil, probably
[12:20] <jmh09> wx ask if you need help installing
[12:20] <mwe> popey: I'm getting the undefined symbol now as well
[12:21] <mwe> popey: alutInit
[12:21] <popey> mwe: installing libopenal0 fixed it for me
[12:21] <ignem> MystaMax: the path you copy it to, relative to homedir
[12:21] <pushpop> popey: I have SATA Sil and it doesnt seem to be detecting my hd, what could I do?
[12:21] <mwe> popey: odd I had that
[12:21] <m4rk> MystaMax man scp
[12:22] <DarkAudit> pushpop: it did on mine, but I had to make a partition for my /home directory with a non-linux partitioner before it would install correctly... wouldn't work with a full NTFS drive
[12:22] <Tux> u did?
[12:22] <mwe> popey: whoa. it works now it seems
[12:22] <MystaMax> m4rk, already read it, its a bit confusing on the appropiate syntax
[12:22] <Tux> hooray!
[12:22] <popey> :)
[12:22] <Tux> how do i do it then?
[12:22] <popey> ;)
[12:22] <MystaMax> ignem, so if I dont specify a path to copy to, is there a default?
[12:23] <popey> Tux: you have a terminal open, type pwd
[12:23] <popey> hahaha
[12:23] <ignem> MystaMax: yes, your homedir will be default then
[12:23] <mwe> popey: _usually_ new libraries are backward compatible so I was wondering if the libcurl was really causing. not after all
[12:23] <Tux> ok...
[12:23] <devz0r> how do i upgrade from 6.06 to dapper 6.06.1 ?
[12:23] <m4rk> MystaMax: ok
[12:23] <dmitri> hello! my thinkpad x31 keeps freezing several times a day, with no explanation. i have all updates  installed. could anyone help, please?
[12:23] <Marupa> ok, so is everyone just ignoring me cause I'm new?
[12:23] <popey> devz0r: update manager will manage that
[12:23] <Tux> then what
[12:23] <Tux> popey, diff channel? i can't see
[12:23] <popey> devz0r: you don't need to explictly upgrade "to" 6.06.1
[12:24] <devz0r> ok..
[12:24] <devz0r> you mean
[12:24] <popey> Tux: #tuxplace
[12:24] <devz0r> all at once
[12:24] <devz0r> ?
[12:24] <MystaMax> thanks so much ignem! worked like a charm!
[12:24] <Tux> #tuxplace
[12:24] <popey> devz0r: if you've been a good boy and kept up to date then effectively you are already on or past 6.06.1
[12:24] <devz0r> oh ok
[12:24] <popey> Tux: /join #tuxplace
[12:24] <mwe> popey: it seems I have no availble mods for the game though ;) gonna dl one
[12:25] <devz0r> because i have nothing that's behind on apt-get upgrade
[12:25] <ignem> MystaMax: np, happy to help
[12:25] <popey> mwe: --> #tuxplace ?
[12:25] <cablesm102> When I try to mount a Samba share, I gut the message "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on..."
[12:25] <cablesm102> can someone help me?
[12:26] <mikolan> Ok, so how do I give my user read/write access to a truecrypt partition?
[12:26] <Marupa> ok....this is freaking annoying.
[12:27] <ignem> i have a problem with the .mov codec, it renders a green line in the video(top) and it looks really messy. do anyone know of a good codec?
[12:28] <adauto> Ola
[12:28] <ych> wow finally
[12:28] <ych> gonna take a while to relearn this stuff
[12:29] <DanieC> hi
[12:30] <dmitri> hello! my thinkpad x31 keeps freezing several times a day, with no explanation. i have all updates  installed. could anyone help, please?
[12:30] <dou213> hey what can i do if i want some eye-candies for my ubuntu, but my card doesn't support xgl?
[12:33] <m4rk> i dunno dou
[12:34] <m4rk> dou213: gnome-look.org ?
[12:34] <dou213> i'll give it a try
[12:34] <jmh09> dou I heard something abotu like compiz+aixgl
[12:34] <jmh09> or soemthign like that
[12:35] <apoth> Someone in here use a macbook?
[12:35] <dou213> i htought compiz is the same like xgl
[12:35] <dou213> and i can't install the fglrx driver :(
[12:35] <dou213> for xgl
[12:36] <pstickne> go installers!
[12:36] <gunnar> !xgl
[12:36] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:36] <pstickne> the partition program with ubuntu nicely messed up my partition table; it's broken in cfdisk with "overlaps" but works in fdisk. in addition my home partition suddenly stopped working.
[12:37] <pstickne> or rather, the ext3 filesystem was corrupted.
[12:37] <pstickne> yay ubuntu! :(
[12:37] <dou213> jmh09, so u mean i should go for compiz + aixgl
[12:37] <polpak> pstickne: it's the same partition program the other distros use
[12:38] <pstickne> polpak: some use it.
[12:38] <Gun_Smoke> Question, is it much different partition and dual boot a windows machine with ubuntu than it is to do with a mac?  Reason I'm asking is because I've only dual booted with the mac, and did a clean install with the windows machine.
[12:38] <ignem> dou213: gdesklets, xfce4-terminal (transparent, wo window-borders) and download some pretty gtk-, nautilus-, and icon-theme, gdm (if you dont like the default) and download a nice wallpaper (deviantart.com art.gnome.org gnome-look.org)
[12:38] <pstickne> polpak: but it shouldn't be used. it's like a broken version of pqmagic. minus anything cool.
[12:39] <ych> anyone had trouble with the sound on youtube before?
[12:39] <jmh09> dou, I just heard about someone else doing it. Sorry, that's all I know. Maybe you can find something at the forums?
[12:39] <ych> and knows how to fix it?
[12:39] <rdemanow> My Gnome system sounds are working, as is sound for Flash programs in Firefox, but for some reason play won't produce sound when invoked on a .wav file, even though it generates output in the terminal windows as if it were.
[12:40] <jmh09> ych this might help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=187752&highlight=sound+flash
[12:40] <pstickne> anyway, fishing for superblocks is failing so... chances are it off'd by one the partition table.
[12:40] <pipboy> Hello
[12:41] <dou213> ignem, thx
[12:41] <sysdoc> pstickne, use teskdisk to recover the partition table. then reinstall grub
[12:41] <ych> thank you
[12:41] <jmh09> np
[12:42] <cry0gen> wtf
[12:42] <jmh09> ?
[12:42] <cry0gen> why is gnome-panel using 33% CPU
[12:43] <pipboy> because it's gnome-panel?
[12:43] <spegelapan> Is wine running nice with ubuntu? and can I run warcraft frozen throne with it? :/
[12:43] <ych> thanks it works
[12:44] <jmh09> great
[12:44] <rdemanow> My Gnome system sounds are working, as is sound for Flash programs in Firefox, but for some reason play won't produce sound when invoked on a .wav file, even though it generates output in the terminal windows as if it were.
[12:44] <jmh09> wine runs fine with ubuntu
[12:44] <jmh09> people use wow so i assume you can use wc3ft
[12:44] <pipboy> make sure you get the latest version of wine
[12:45] <fredsa> hi guys, can anyone tell me what's wrong with this command? Xnest :1 & DISPLAY=:1 gimp
[12:45] <spegelapan> Ok, how about .exe applications? can linux handle that?
[12:45] <_w^x_> anyone familar with freenet and GNUnet?
[12:45] <jmh09> spegelapan wc3 runs perfectly w/o world editor http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=3126
[12:46] <lz1gjd> i've got some weird issue with my ubuntu dapper install, sometimes when i boot into the desktop i can't play any sound through alsa but gstreamer works. has any1 experienced this and (or)  have an idea how to fix it ?
[12:46] <|thunder> with wine, yep
[12:46] <jmh09> it runs some, which ones are you considering
[12:46] <jmh09> like a specific program
[12:46] <spegelapan> yeah
[12:46] <firehazard17> tiny ones work fine
[12:46] <spegelapan> like ventrilo, gg client and so on
[12:47] <jmh09> not necessarily tiny ones, but they do seem to work better sometimes
[12:47] <pstickne> sysdoc: interesting tool, but this gets even better... the partition seems to have no filesystem on it.
[12:47] <Gun_Smoke> My Disks Manager will not load up.. The wheel just keeps spinning and spinning and spinning..  Any ideas??
[12:47] <Blinker> !ipod
[12:47] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[12:47] <pipboy> Anyone having problems getting their ati card to work?
[12:48] <sysdoc> pstickne, yea it seems to say that sometimes, I just ignore it and reconstruct the partition table and move on
[12:48] <Blinker> !ati
[12:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:48] <Ropechoborra> Is VMware the same as Wine ??
[12:48] <firehazard17> oh others work but a smaller program like a calculator that doesn't have to install is going to work better than a bigger program that has to install like iTunes
[12:48] <spegelapan> well well, it just have to work, because my oem CD with xp is lost, and cant validate xp with another key, so cant sit here without an updated os
[12:49] <jk_> every time i install a package realplayer whats to be isntalled, but fails a the end, it works , how do I stop it from trying to always install
[12:49] <Katmando> Ropechoborra:  No
[12:49] <Pc_Pixel> im having a problem getting Dapper to connect to the internet w a nVidia network adapter
[12:49] <webben> if i want to play mpeg-4 embedded in an html page in epiphany/firefox/konqueror what do i need
[12:49] <Pc_Pixel> help?
[12:49] <mwe> popey: the game crashes when I load a scenario :(
[12:49] <cica> hi guys... whats the quickest way to start network-manager?
[12:50] <cica> !network-manager
[12:50] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager
[12:50] <Kill_X> webben: try vlc with the appropriate mozilla plugin
[12:50] <Kill_X> should work.
[12:50] <webben> Kill_X: is that all open source and dandy?
[12:51] <pstickne> webben: yes
[12:51] <m4rk> hello?
[12:51] <webben> cool :)
[12:51] <pstickne> VLC is great.
[12:51] <firehazard17> Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[12:51] <firehazard17> kills X
[12:51] <Gun_Smoke> My Disks Manager will not load up.. The wheel just keeps spinning and spinning and spinning..  Any ideas???  Is there a way to do the same/similar thing from terminal???
[12:51] <Kill_X> firehazard17, lol.
[12:52] <Pc_Pixel> anyone know how to get ubuntu to properly talk to an nvidia network adapter
[12:52] <pstickne> Gun_Smoke: Disk Manager = Nautilus?
[12:52] <wizzomafizzo> how do i make my screen turn off after being idle? I've tried setting it in xorg.conf, I tried messing with the gnome-power-manager settings and when i run xset dpms force off the screen turns off for a second then turns back on. On the other hand the screensave works fine
[12:52] <Gun_Smoke> pstickne:  System>admin>disks manager
[12:53] <Gun_Smoke> pstickne:  Whoops.. just disks
[12:53] <fredrich1> anyone know what might be the problem when the file roller cant open debs
[12:53] <fredrich1> ?
[12:53] <scrizt> cupsys 1.2.2 ... "# lpadmin -p printer -i interface" fails with Permission Denied. (?)
[12:53] <lz1gjd> ok, i think i figured this out, seems like from time to time the modules for my usb webcam mic and my creative live! card are loaded in incorrect order. how do i make my sound card module load first ?
[12:53] <gray_fox> does anybody know irrlicht?
[12:54] <pstickne> Gun_Smoke: can most likely do all that using /etc/fstab, cfdisk/fdisk, /proc/partitions, mount, etc. but I've never used it.
[12:54] <Blissex> gray_fox: its authors for sure. I remember it is a 3D game engine.
[12:54] <BlueEagle> gray_fox: Never met the man.
[12:55] <wizzomafizzo> anybody?
[12:55] <pstickne> lz1gjd: you can test that by using depmod -r to unload and depmod again to reload in the new order you think it should be.
[12:55] <Blissex> wizzomafizzo: check out the various DPMS setting. Note that for some drivers they only work in APM mode on some PC and only in ACPI mode on others.
[12:55] <Gun_Smoke> pstickne:  Me either.. I'm not too good with the command line.
[12:55] <CokeNCode> hmmm, is this 6.0.6.1 upgrade automatic
[12:55] <CokeNCode> ?
[12:55] <NthDegree> CokeNCode, it's a CD release so it's covered by updates
[12:56] <NthDegree> it's equivalent to a fedora unity respin
[12:56] <pstickne> Gun_Smoke: you've left it running in the background for awhile? (What are you trying to do? -- not that doing it would solve this problem in particular)
[12:56] <wizzomafizzo> Blissex: ok i'll check out some options, but this is a really new laptop so I imagine it's acpi based
[12:56] <NthDegree> it's a CD with some of the updates preinstalled
[12:56] <lz1gjd> pstickne: ic, but how do i do that on boot ? i mean when the system initializes
[12:56] <gray_fox> Blissex: yes....it's a 3d engine, I would to know how to install it on anjuta....do u know?
[12:56] <CokeNCode> NthDegree, oh ok, I was expecting to come home today to find a whole heap up updates to download
[12:56] <Pc_Pixel> could the 6.06.1 possible fix my nvidia NIC problem?
[12:56] <Blissex> wizzomafizzo: also 'man xset' to experiment with DPMS from the command line.
[12:56] <CokeNCode> i hope it fixes my tv tuner problem :/
[12:56] <spegelapan> One quick question, Do I need to learn alot of codes and lines, or is it easy and like plug and play style? :/
[12:56] <DanaG> lz1gjd: look in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[12:56] <NthDegree> Pc_Pixel, it's covered by updates AFAIK
[12:57] <scrizt> why do "# lpadmin -p print -i interface" fail with permission denied ? (cupsys 1.2.2, cupsys-client 1.2.2)
[12:57] <lz1gjd> DanaG: thx
[12:57] <Jack_Sparrow> How do windows programs running under Wine handle time limits and copy protections
[12:57] <Gun_Smoke> pstickne:  Yeah it's still spinning the wheel as I type from a while ago... I'm trying to get info about the disk, and cd drive on this machine.
[12:57] <Blissex> gray_fox: no, and it is very unlikely anybody here can help with that. It is a very specific question, specific both to Anjuta and Irrlicht.
[12:57] <pstickne> lz1gjd: no idea how ubuntu is setup, sorry, but easiest to test before. `man modprobe` or `man modules.conf` might provide insight. but then again, ubuntu most likely has its own setup.
[12:57] <DanaG> Find out the module for the webcam and make an entry that matches the ones like intel_8x0m
[12:57] <NthDegree> Jack_Sparrow, most CD copy-protection fails on WINE
[12:57] <DanaG> The option is "index" -- setting it to -1 makes it give priority to other devices.
[12:57] <Flannel> spegelapan: you mean, to use linux?  It should be fairly easy.  Ubuntu has really nice tutorials and howtos and stuff.
[12:57] <NthDegree> and 30 day trials read through the PC Real Time Clock (RTC)
[12:58] <Jack_Sparrow> NthDegree: THis one just has a time limit
[12:58] <spegelapan> good
[12:58] <NthDegree> uh, then it will probably expire
[12:58] <farous> are there anyother utils to mount a linux network folder in userspace other then fuse?
[12:58] <mwe_> popey: ping
[12:58] <spegelapan> because I dont really have time or the interest in learning alot of stuff right now :D
[12:58] <popey> mwe_: pong
[12:58] <gray_fox> Blissex: ok...I'll search on google! thx anyway!
[12:59] <mwe_> popey: I downloaded a scenario but it crashes when I load it. do you know how to realese the cursor without leaving the game?
[12:59] <Jack_Sparrow> NOt worried about WGA
[12:59] <fredrich1> ack..no video in totem...only sound...anyone know what might be the cause?
[12:59] <popey> no
[12:59] <mwe_> hmm
[01:00] <mwe_> popey: did you actually get to play?
[01:00] <popey> no
[01:00] <popey> started it, killed it
[01:00] <popey> :)
[01:00] <mwe_> heh
[01:00] <pstickne> fredrich1: all types of movies?
[01:01] <fredrich1> Tried divx and mpeg thus far....and i do have the codecs (as far as i know, i got it working before in breezy + automatix)
[01:01] <mwe_> popey: I'm trying another scenario. if it doesn't work I'll just ditch it
[01:01] <popey> you have more time/patience than I
[01:01] <popey> good luck
[01:02] <mwe_> popey: It looks cool on the web page
[01:02] <gregg__> totem sucks, use vlc or mplayer ;)
[01:03] <pstickne> xine isn't bad. it can use mplayer codecs (but for some reason the ubuntu packages are setup so)
[01:03] <farous> hi what are the  utils to mount linux network folders. I currently use fuse for mounting in userspace but was interested in knowing if there are other utils prefer over ssh connection
[01:03] <pstickne> *aren't
[01:03] <Troutinator> hi, I'm having trouble getting an NVIDIA card to work with Dapper, is this the right place for help?
[01:03] <hyperstream> yes
[01:03] <hyperstream> it is the correct place
[01:03] <enyc> Troutinator: essentially right place ;-)
[01:04] <hyperstream> !nvidia
[01:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:04] <fredrich1> same problem in VLC
[01:04] <Troutinator> ubotu, been there
[01:04] <enyc> Troutinator: are you trying to install the nvidia binary driver ??  whats going wrong?
[01:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about been there - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:04] <hyperstream> there you go Troutinator  follow the link ubotu provided
[01:04] <fredrich1> only sound no video
[01:04] <hyperstream> lol
[01:04] <gregg__> fredrich1: maybe the file is at fault?
[01:04] <hyperstream> Troutinator, does the nvidia splash screen show up on boot up?
[01:04] <Troutinator> enyc, yeah the binary, well firts off, the livecd won't even boot when I have by bios set to use the nvidia card
[01:04] <fredrich1> gregg__, naw, tried several different files to make sure
[01:05] <Flannel> Troutinator: which nvidia card is it?
[01:05] <hyperstream> Troutinator, sorry i have no experience with the live cd.
[01:05] <Troutinator> Flannel, Geforce 6200
[01:05] <enyc> Troutinator: im not expert on nvidias
[01:05] <Troutinator> well, I installed anyways by using the onboard graphics, but I would really like to get my nvidia working
[01:06] <enyc> interesting news is that intel has started an open-driver 3d graphics architecture (not needing binary driver)
[01:06] <Troutinator> when I boot with the nvidia enabled it hangs on "Loading hardware drivers"
[01:06] <NemesisUK> Hi, anyone know howto get cups printer sharing working?
[01:06] <Troutinator> if I attempt to boot in rescue mode I get a "Kernel panic" but not a VFS one
[01:06] <NemesisUK> !cups
[01:06] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[01:07] <enyc> Troutinator: hrrm..... particuarly if this is a newer motherboard I would be tempted to update the systew BIOS first.....
[01:07] <Troutinator> its about a year old, I think
[01:07] <enyc> Troutinator: and see if the sitiaton changes...
[01:08] <Troutinator> its what ever comes in an HP a1102n
[01:08] <enyc> Troutinator: thats what I would try first
[01:08] <Troutinator> i guess I can try redoing the bios
[01:09] <pstickne> sysdoc: wow, it's found all sorts of crap :(
[01:09] <cry0gen> bugs <3
[01:10] <Troutinator> under linux how do I find out which mobo I'm using?
[01:10] <pstickne> sysdoc: the scary thing is ... that they are all marked deleted.
[01:10] <wirelain> well, 24 hours of memtest ... i can pretty well conclude, it's not the ram ... now for hardware motherboard testing.
[01:11] <sysdoc> pstickne, cool tools...:)
[01:12] <Trent> I have a question: Should ubuntu be able to support this motherboards audio, graphics, and networking/chipset? http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=K8NGM2-L&class=mb
[01:12] <baconbacon> Trent, did you have a look at !hardware
[01:13] <pstickne> sysdoc: when I get to end end, where it says write, it only showed one partition, does this mean "write in addition to" or would that be my only partition afterwards?
[01:13] <TokenBad> in ubuntu is there a way to watch RSS feeds?
[01:13] <pstickne> sysdoc: right now I'm re-running it and logging all the sages O.o
[01:13] <Trent> baconbacon, I have not.
[01:13] <baconbacon> !hardware > Trent
[01:14] <AndyCooll> Tokenbad: There are a number of ways. Within Firefox or Thunderbird. Then there are RSS readers such as Liferea or Akkregator
[01:15] <mwe> popey: fyi I got to play the game
[01:15] <sysdoc> pstickne, is there more than one partition? Also, when it writes the partition table it replaces the old one. So, what it sees is what will be written. The disk will no longer be bootable at that point, So you'll have to reinstall grub
[01:16] <jmichaelx>  i was just trying to upgrade to 6.06.1 using adept and ran into a problem. while installing the downloaded ugrades, it said that kaudiocreator was broken, and then adept crashed. i have since rebooted, but when i try to run adept again, i get an error saying it adept/apt-get is already in use... can anyone help?
[01:16] <pstickne> sysdoc: it sees one partition! :(
[01:16] <pstickne> sysdoc: or wants to write one partition
[01:16] <pstickne> sysdoc: I have 5 now. (not including extended)
[01:16] <sysdoc> pstickne, will it allow you to back up the partition table that exists first?
[01:17] <tanlaan> I am going to reformat my computer and make it dual boot, mac OS 9 and Ubuntu Dapper. I have a 6 gig hard drive, I want to know how much space should I leave for Ubuntu? I want to use Ubuntu as my main OS. Maybe I should use Mac-On-Linux?
[01:17] <jmichaelx> do i need to use a dpkg command?
[01:17] <ripp3r666> anyone know if you can use selinux on ubuntu 6.06 desktop edition?
[01:17] <pstickne> sysdoc: I did the 'save' but it didn't give me any feedback :x
[01:17] <Trent> baconbacon, Apparently ubuntu only supports my video card.
[01:17] <tanlaan> oops actually I have a 7 gig hard drive.
[01:17] <hyperstream> wtf
[01:17] <hyperstream> 7 gigs?
[01:17] <hyperstream> thats like old school.
[01:17] <Latty> tanlaan: Well, you need about 2GB for the Ubuntu system, and say 1GB of swap, the rest depends on how much data you need to store.
[01:18] <pstickne> 1GB for swap is most likely overkill...
[01:18] <tanlaan> hyperstream: hahaha I have an imac G3
[01:18] <hyperstream> what ever that is :)
[01:18] <hyperstream> i know nothing about macs
[01:18] <mwe> I have about 1G of swap. it's never used at all
[01:18] <tanlaan> isnt swap like 700mb?
[01:18] <sysdoc> pstickne, you may want to do a lil reading first >>http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[01:18] <cry0gen> i have 4gb of memory
[01:18] <tanlaan> say Or less.
[01:18] <pstickne> hyperstream: I think it's the one ones in the blue/pink turtle shells :)
[01:18] <cry0gen> my swap exists physically on the ram
[01:18] <hyperstream> lol
[01:19] <pstickne> sysdoc: thanks
[01:19] <cry0gen> i made a ramdisk for swap rofl
[01:19] <veritos> i'm trying to run a java webstart, and i get sysCreateListenerSocket failed: No such file or directory (on kubuntu 6.06)
[01:19] <mwe> cry0gen: yeah
[01:19] <tanlaan> say Oh and if it matters *which it doesnt* I have 192 mb of ram.
[01:19] <pstickne> cry0gen: with 1.5GB I've yet to see swap used... 800-900MB in buffers too O.o
[01:19] <hyperstream> omg
[01:19] <hyperstream> go build a 'pc'
[01:19] <mwe> pstickne: I have 768 MB of ram and swap is hardly ever used
[01:19] <Latty> Jeez. 7GB of hard disk space? I struggle with allmost half a TB.
[01:20] <baconbacon> Trent: maybe the wiki is outdated or incomplete. If it's very recent hw, the only sure way is to try the live/install cd
[01:20] <cry0gen> Latty: i struggle WITH a TB
[01:20] <hyperstream> os[Linux 2.6.15-26-386 i686]  distro[Debian testing/unstable]  cpu[1 x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ @ 1.01GHz]  mem[Physical : 1011MB, 81.6% free]  disk[Total : 445.50GB, 41.00% Free]  video[10de:0092]  sound[NFORCE - NVidia CK8041: MPU-401 UART - MPU-401 UART] 
[01:20] <cry0gen> i got 14 gb left
[01:20] <cry0gen> :|
[01:20] <cry0gen> lol
[01:20] <hyperstream> same here Latty
[01:20] <scrizt> could anyone help me out with this cupsys issue? lpadmin fails on persmission denied when adding a printqueue with a SysV-style interface (local cupsd and lpadmin invoked as root)
[01:20] <tanlaan> I only have 1 gb left
[01:20] <Trent> baconbacon, It is pretty recent, nforce4 chipset.
[01:20] <tanlaan> and I have a lot of random crap
[01:21] <ripp3r666> i seem to be having problems getting Net::RawIP to compile :|
[01:21] <^Z3D^> im having troule getting totem to play dvds
[01:22] <phargle> its your v-chip
[01:22] <Latty> Kind of annoying, even with that much space, as It's formatted as FAT32, I can't get >4GB files on there. Which annoys me if I want a dual layer DVD ISO or backup archives.
[01:22] <MatthewV> ^Z3D^, have you had a look at !Restricted
[01:22] <Latty> The price I pay for still needing windows access to my data.
[01:22] <Dodzey> is it possible to run a script on Gnome Logout, just before gnoem does logout, or possible just edit the logout script that gnome uses?
[01:22] <veritos> i have a problem also, i'm on kubuntu 6.06, and when i try to run java web start, it gives me the error:
[01:22] <veritos> Java Web Start splash screen process exiting .....
[01:22] <veritos> Splash: sysCreateListenerSocket failed: No such file or directory
[01:22] <^Z3D^> !restricted
[01:22] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:23] <mwe> Latty: yeah. soon linux will be able to safely write to ntfs though
[01:23] <^Z3D^> thanks
[01:23] <veritos> mwe, Latty: have you used ntfs-3g yet?
[01:23] <cry0gen> bbgl
[01:23] <Latty> Nope.
[01:23] <mwe> veritos: no.
[01:23] <MatthewV> ^Z3D^, no probs, any problems with what the RestrictedFormats page has to say, come back here ;)
[01:23] <Latty> I know there are ways
[01:24] <veritos> mwe, latty: it's perfectly stable
[01:24] <Latty> But they arn't 100%. And I have had way to many problems with Hard Drives.
[01:24] <Dodzey> so, anyone know which file to edit to run a script on gnome logout?
[01:24] <Latty> Really?
[01:24] <mwe> Latty: it's getting close to being safe to write to NTFS
[01:24] <mwe> veritos: there is a warning not to use it in production systems though
[01:24] <jmichaelx>  i was just trying to upgrade to 6.06.1 using adept and ran into a problem. while installing the downloaded ugrades, it said that kaudiocreator was broken, and then adept crashed. i have since rebooted, but when i try to run adept again, i get an error saying it adept/apt-get is already in use... can anyone help?
[01:25] <cruel_dog> Hi, how can I enable windows mewdia videos playing on ubuntu linux? it tells me there is no plugin to handle the stream!
[01:25] <Latty> Well, Hopefully I can just switch to EXT3 soon enough. I shouldn't need windows really
[01:25] <DanaG> argh, YouTube is broken in Linux.
[01:25] <mwe> Latty: yeah. I don't have windows on my lappy here either
[01:25] <veritos> mwe: i use it all the time, no problems
[01:25] <mwe> Latty: I have a windows pc for gaming though
[01:25] <MatthewV> cruel_dog, see pm from ubotu
[01:25] <cruel_dog> k
[01:25] <cruel_dog> thx
[01:26] <Latty> yeah, well, the only game I really play on PC is UT2004, which isn't a problem :P
[01:26] <ych> topic
[01:26] <ych> ooops
[01:26] <mwe> veritos: that's good. are you doing extensive writing a lot of the time?
[01:26] <lattyware> Dunno why I had my name cut off, must have had a ghost...
[01:26] <veritos> mwe: i store most of my stuff, including isos etc, on my NTFS system
[01:27] <mwe> veritos: it's good to hear it's stable for you. I still wouldn't count on it for a production system with that warning though
[01:27] <HellDragon> ok, never do a pkill arts* to kill artsd..
[01:27] <lattyware> Yeah, In the end, storing the >4GB files on NTFS is the easiest way.
[01:27] <DanaG> Oh, now it's working.
[01:27] <lattyware> As things that size are not often edited anyway.
[01:28] <veritos> mwe: "real men don't keep backups.  they just upload all their stuff onto ftp and let the world mirror it" :)
[01:28] <Yashiro> hiya
[01:28] <lattyware> Glad I finally managed to make the switch though, now I can scold my friends using Windows, without being a hypocrit :P
[01:28] <Yashiro> i have a problem with wine D:!
[01:28] <Yashiro> help
[01:29] <mwe> veritos: no they just cry when they lose everthing 
[01:29] <Blinker> Yashiro: maybe you could be a little more descriptive
[01:29] <veritos> mwe: no emo comments please
[01:29] <lattyware> There are two types of data, data with backups that are never used, and data that is lost.
[01:29] <mwe> veritos: emo comments?
[01:29] <Yashiro> can i put the error here?
[01:29] <pstickne> sysdoc: now I just getting .... anyway, according to testdisk there _are no_ superblocks on said partition. wtf :(
[01:29] <Yashiro> i have a problem with the sound
[01:29] <lattyware> Emo = Wrongly used term.
[01:30] <Blinker> if its more than 2-3 lines, use pastebin
[01:30] <Yashiro> =D
[01:30] <mwe> veritos: it's a katakana character and Seveas among other is using it
[01:30] <Yashiro>  ALSA lib seq_hw.c:456:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory
[01:30] <Yashiro> *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer: 0x7c0a2a40 ***
[01:30] <Yashiro> wine: Assertion failed at address 0xffffe410 (thread 000d), starting debugger...
[01:30] <Yashiro> that's my error
[01:30] <Yashiro> ._.
[01:30] <mwe> !-#ubuntu-offtopic
[01:30] <ubotu> -#ubuntu-offtopic is the katakana character 'tsu' - often abused as smiley by Seveas and a truckload of other copycats 
[01:30] <lattyware> I'm glad that uTorrent works through Wine, I havn't found a single torrent client that beats it.
[01:30] <pstickne> lattyware: indeed. I'm glad to there that :)
[01:31] <Yashiro> Blinker: did u see my error?
[01:31] <riaal> Is there any easy ftp server for ubuntu? like webbased and easy to set up acounts?
[01:31] <Blinker> yes
[01:31] <lattyware> I must say though, I've found Linux IRC clients lacking, any suggestions? I'm currently running Konversation.
[01:31] <Yashiro> gftp
[01:31] <Blinker> but i know nothing of wine
[01:32] <Yashiro> lol
[01:32] <Yashiro> i use lftp
[01:32] <Yashiro> :3
[01:32] <Blinker> the point is to ask your question, and if someone knows, they'll help ya
[01:32] <Blinker> =)
[01:32] <Yashiro> :D
[01:32] <hyperstream> lattyware, xchat?
[01:32] <pstickne> lattyware: if you get the NON Xchat-GNOME version of Xchat...
[01:32] <Yashiro> can sum1 help me with my wine sound problem?
[01:32] <pstickne> (don't get xchat-gnome, it's horrid)
[01:32] <lattyware> I'll take a look.
[01:33] <Yashiro> i get a similar error when i try to play stepmania
[01:33] <Yashiro> ._.
[01:33] <Yashiro> the game crashes due to dound problems
[01:33] <Yashiro> *sound
[01:33] <lattyware> Heh, All the sites talk about the lack of MP3 codecs. I love myself for using OGG for everything :D
[01:33] <Yashiro> it says that the sound device is in use, and it can't use it
[01:33] <Blinker> does anyone know how to configure/mount iPods under linux?
[01:34] <Yashiro> they don't work like pendrives?
[01:34] <azureal> !ipod
[01:34] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[01:34] <Yashiro> =o
[01:34] <Blinker> yeah I read that. goes over media players
[01:34] <Yashiro> is there a guide to connect a nokia 3220 with a dku-5 cable?
[01:34] <Yashiro> :D?
[01:35] <pstickne> Blinker: you ought to be able to simply mount it if you just want access to the fs.
[01:35] <mfuentes> hello
[01:35] <Yashiro> i tried with xgnokii
[01:35] <pushpop> Question, When I go to install ubuntu it hangs on Mounting Root File System and Never prints up the partitioner?  I am trying to dual boot with windows Sata Drive is the windows hd and a IDE hard Disk I want to use for Ubuntu ANyone here have any ideas?
[01:35] <valehru> Anyone know a good bash scripting tutorial site out there?  I need to open a html file, find a certain tag and create a new html file with that tag inside it?
[01:35] <pstickne> Blinker: but that won't do much good for putting on songs.
[01:35] <Blinker> pstickne: thats fine. if i try to sunc now it'll wipe and i'm still gettign around to migrating my collection
[01:35] <Blinker> sync*
[01:35] <pstickne> Blinker: once it's plugged in, cat /proc/partitions and see if anything shows up
[01:35] <valehru> !bash
[01:35] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[01:36] <pstickne> Blinker: syncing is only done via the iTunes program.
[01:36] <Blinker> pstickne: banshee and amarok support it as well
[01:36] <letters_9> how can I install wine without using apt via the internet (im on dialup and it really sucks dropping out 2 percent from finishing)
[01:36] <Yashiro> if using gnome u can use alt+F2 to open the run command dialog and put xterm
[01:36] <pstickne> Blinker: right, but it's an application-feature, not a filesystem one
[01:36] <Yashiro> :0
[01:37] <tuxtux> bye
[01:37] <mfuentes> hey!, exists packages for the Intel open source graphics drivers ??
 u'll need a .deb package of wine, but u may have problems with dependencies
[01:37] <baconbacon> letters_9: doesnt apt-get continue download after interruption?
[01:37] <Yashiro> yup
[01:37] <Yashiro> apt-get resume downloads
[01:38] <Blinker> pstickne: yeah, theres plenty that shows up. sda's, dm-0-3, and sdb's.
[01:38] <letters_9> argh, well to be honest my modem doesnt work in ubuntu at all
[01:38] <letters_9> and I dont want to download it again in anycase
[01:38] <charles> hi
[01:38] <pstickne> Blinker: one of the sd*'s will be the iPod
[01:38] <Blinker> k
[01:38] <letters_9> no one cares about ppl without proper internet anymore *sob*
[01:38] <Shadow_mil2> how do I enable remote login?
[01:39] <pstickne> Blinker: then just  mount /dev/sdfoo /mnt (it should auto fine)
[01:39] <pstickne> Blinker: then you have access to the fs on the iPod directly....
 wut modem do u have? a serial one?
[01:39] <Blinker> whats the command to unmount?
[01:39] <TokenBad> in ubuntu is there a way to watch RSS feeds?
[01:39] <Yashiro> Blinker: umount
[01:39] <Blinker> k
[01:40] <lattyware> TokenBad: Use FF or TB.
[01:40] <baconbacon> There are a number of ways to access RSS feeds. Within Firefox or Thunderbird. Then there are RSS readers such as Liferea or Akkregator
[01:40] <Yashiro> gtg, brb
[01:40] <TokenBad> lattyware, ff or tb?
[01:40] <Yashiro> cya later pl
[01:40] <Yashiro> *ppl
[01:40] <pushpop> Question, When I go to install ubuntu it hangs on Mounting Root File System and Never prints up the partitioner?  I am trying to dual boot with windows Sata Drive is the windows hd and a IDE hard Disk I want to use for Ubuntu ANyone here have any ideas? Here is a SS of the error I get after it tries to load filesystem http://www.digitizememories.com/IMG_0960.jpg
[01:40] <letters_9> firefox , thunderbird
[01:40] <TokenBad> I have firefox and all it did was show the coding...when tried that
[01:40] <letters_9> to add a link go into edit bookmarks
[01:41] <letters_9> then there is an "add new live feed"
[01:41] <letters_9> paste the link in there
[01:41] <vaz> can anyone suggest another bittorrent downloader apart from the one in gnome?
[01:41] <pstickne> uTorrent in wine :)
[01:41] <letters_9> drag it to the little bar thing so you can click on it
[01:41] <sethk> TokenBad, RSS software tends to be buggy on all OSes; it's a relatively new protocol.
[01:41] <letters_9> sob, he said Wine
[01:41] <letters_9> waaaah
[01:41] <pstickne> vaz: Azerous (spell) is like uTorrent ... but it's in Java so it's considerablly more resource intensive.
[01:42] <pstickne> And the caching of file writes sucked last time I used it.
[01:42] <pstickne> 150kB of pure no-install goodness
[01:42] <TheGame> azureus
[01:43] <vaz> pstickne:cheers and thank you
[01:43] <TokenBad> so rss don't like run on a panal so see when it updates?
[01:43] <pstickne> I have only one question... how did installing ubuntu wipe out the data on a partition... completely?
[01:44] <drbreen> pstickne: windows does that everytime you install it ;)
[01:44] <pstickne> of course the only data I _wanted_ is only in some .rb/.pl files...
[01:44] <pushpop> Question, When I go to install ubuntu it hangs on Mounting Root File System and Never prints up the partitioner?  I am trying to dual boot with windows Sata Drive is the windows hd and a IDE hard Disk I want to use for Ubuntu ANyone here have any ideas? Here is a SS of the error I get after it tries to load filesystem http://www.digitizememories.com/IMG_0960.jpg
[01:44] <pushpop> =X
[01:45] <pstickne> drbreen: no, windows gives you an option
[01:45] <pstickne> drbreen: most of the time I abuse that to install without changing anything
[01:45] <sethk> pushpop, try the ide=nodma flag
[01:45] <pstickne> drbreen: when I isntalled ubuntu I didn't not touch the partition in question. yet now it's there-but-useless.
[01:45] <drbreen> pstickne: the last time i installed win98 it did kill my partitions
[01:45] <harisund> pstickne: yes, that is given as an option to reinstall Windows to fix it in case you have broken something in Windows.
[01:45] <TokenBad> so there is no like rss feed thing that scrolls based on stuff updated?
[01:45] <pushpop> sethk: im kinda new to this world, in english how would one do that?
[01:45] <pstickne> drbreen: lol, win98? :) I'm refering to 2k/XP.
[01:46] <pstickne> harisund: I'd rather reinstall the OS then lose data. That's just me though :-/
[01:46] <drbreen> pstickne: what did you do exactly ? try to describe your problem plz.
[01:46] <drbreen> pstickne: backups ?
[01:46] <torpedo|dog> I'm having problems using fglrx: it seems to Just Not Work. xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20226
[01:46] <pstickne> drbreen: installed ubuntu. when I retarted /dev/hda8 no long contains ext2. better yet, it no longer contains _ANY_ superblocks.
[01:47] <pstickne> drbreen: they aren't that important. just things I'd like. such as settings, files from freshmeat, a few code snippets I was using as tests.
[01:47] <sethk> pstickne, may be recoverable
[01:47] <pstickne> drbreen: so, somehow, in the ubuntu process I completely wiped out a partition. Only I didn't do anything which would have affected it.
[01:48] <Kaiser> having a little trouble getting Ubuntu to work here
[01:48] <torpedo|dog> Kaiser: what's the problem?
[01:48] <inc|freaky> is ther eany repository which is updated more often and requently than the default repos? clamav is outdated and its virus database cant be updated and other stuff like vim7 isnt in the repos yet. dapper6.06 is a bit "behind" imho
[01:48] <drbreen> pstickne: so the filesystm is fsck up (nice pun, aint it funny) ? is it really empty ?
[01:48] <pstickne> sethk: I've tried testdisk via sysdoc's suggestion.
[01:48] <Kaiser> well it isnt really ubuntu's fault it is trying to get my partitions set up
[01:48] <dm_> Hey anyone know a good link for a HOWTO on Compiz install ? i have Nvidea Quadro NVS 120m 256mb graphics card
[01:48] <Kaiser> i have tried gparted and qtparted
[01:48] <pstickne> drbreen: testdisk and scanning for superblocks returns nothing. manual fishing and trying to e2fsck returns nothing.
[01:48] <pstickne> drbreen: yeah, pretty much :)
[01:48] <torpedo|dog> Kaiser: trying to resize a NTFS partition?
[01:48] <pstickne> drbreen: but it's the only partition.
[01:48] <Kaiser> yup
[01:49] <drbreen> inc|freaky: unstable a.k.a. edgy eft ?
[01:49] <Kaiser> i have been told it will work with either of those
[01:49] <sysdoc> pstickne, I have an ISo you should try
[01:49] <Kaiser> the problem is it isnt detecting my hard drive
[01:49] <torpedo|dog> Kaiser: what worked for me was software called "DiskDrake", on the PCLinuxOS LiveCD
[01:49] <drbreen> pstickne: yeah you are fsck i assume. better have backups NeXT time.
[01:49] <inc|freaky> drbreen: im running it on a server i dont want to run unstable
[01:49] <pstickne> drbreen: it's just annoying that somehow ubuntu let this go through.
[01:50] <pstickne> drbreen: that's all.
[01:50] <drbreen> pstickne: file a bug.
[01:50] <torpedo|dog> Kaiser: http://www.pclinuxonline.com/wiki/PCLinuxOSLiveCD and login as root and resize away.
[01:50] <pstickne> drbreen: I don't think I can replicate it.
[01:50] <drbreen> pstickne: maybe it really is the RARE OCCASION
[01:50] <pstickne> drbreen: or if I could I don't care to try.
[01:50] <inc|freaky> drbreen: but imho it cant be that a "stable" cant manage to keep the virus scanner up to date
[01:50] <Kaiser> it will boot up the partition manager and when it scans devices it will pick up my USB drive and all but not my hard drive
[01:50] <drbreen> pstickne: then at least file a bug.
[01:51] <pstickne> I guess this gives me an excuse to reorganize the partions... *sigh*
[01:51] <drbreen> inc|freaky: so you want programs that a distibution based on debian --> unstable <-- does not see as --> stable <-- ? i do not understand.
[01:51] <nooseisloose> someone ring?
[01:51] <sysdoc> pstickne, I had the same problem once. caused by ca\hnaging my mind while altering the partitions and not saving the changes. Thinking that I didn't want them saved and wanted to partition in a different way
[01:51] <torpedo|dog> Kaiser: what happens if you unplug your USB drive?
[01:52] <Kaiser> nothing special if that is what you mean
[01:52] <pstickne> sysdoc: that might very be what happened. *shrug*
[01:52] <Kaiser> it isnt a USB hard drive it is a little thumb drive
[01:52] <drbreen> inc|freaky: my server is still running kubuntu 5.10 . just for the record.
[01:52] <inc|freaky> drbreen: dapper has clamav in its repositorys, and clamav cant be updated using its virus-db updater, as long as its not the actual version. and clamav in dapper is outdated so the virus-dbs cant be updated. many servers use clamav to scan f.e. eMails going through. and ubuntu is maintaining a server "edition"
[01:52] <sysdoc> Then I have an iso if you'd like to grab that will at the least allow you to grad the data that you need
[01:52] <torpedo|dog> Kaiser: well, you unplug it before you boot into everything
[01:52] <sysdoc> pstickne, ^^
[01:53] <drbreen> inc|freaky: then install clamav _manually_ ?
[01:53] <pstickne> sysdoc: it's only a few text files :P
[01:53] <inc|freaky> drbreen: first i wanted to ask if theres something like debian-volotile for dapper
[01:53] <inc|freaky> drbreen: and thats what i just askedc
[01:53] <sysdoc> pstickne, well if it isn't critical then nuke the drive and get over it, lol
[01:54] <pstickne> sysdoc: hey, I have debian and windows installed too ;)
[01:54] <torpedo|dog> pstickne: so nuke Windows ;)
[01:54] <inc|freaky> for
[01:54] <pstickne> torpedo|dog: it's good on occasion O.o
[01:54] <sysdoc> pstickne, then you should be able to get the data from debian
[01:54] <Boj> Could someone take a look at my xorg.conf please? I'm trying to get my resolution at 1024*768 but whenever I try to change it, it just reverts back to 1280*1024.
[01:55] <pstickne> sysdoc: no, partition that went out was /home :p
[01:55] <sysdoc> pstickne, that's windohs! BTW
[01:55] <drbreen> Boj: cant you just change it at the gnome GUI ?
[01:55] <Boj> No
[01:56] <letters_9> nope no way to do it till I get my new, real, modem it seems
[01:56] <letters_9> oh well
[01:56] <sethk> Boj, put your X log file on the pastebot
[01:56] <letters_9> im going to build it from source which will leave a .deb package behind
[01:56] <torpedo|dog> Can anybody help me diagnose a different Xorg problem? I'm trying to get fglrx to work and...it's not. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20226
[01:56] <andresmujica> well, maybe ubuntu IS debian volatile
[01:56] <TokenBad> ok I found rss feed thing....liferea does it for me...thanks folks
[01:56] <jean> good morning to all
[01:57] <Boj> How do I put stuff onto the pastebot?
[01:57] <crimsun> andresmujica: it's not. :)
[01:57] <sethk> Boj, URL is in the channel topic line
[01:57] <torpedo|dog> Boj: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[01:57] <sysdoc> pstickne, if it is critical, like I said I have the recovery tools that will get the data. If not well, you know what to do next...:)
[01:57] <sethk> torpedo|dog, we need the X log file, not the xorg.conf (or at least in addition to the xorg.conf)
[01:57] <pstickne> can I change the size of the extended partition without affecting the logical partitions?
[01:57] <pstickne> sysdoc: heh, thanks
[01:57] <torpedo|dog> sethk: okay, one moment
[01:58] <andresmujica> i do like ubuntu, in fact i came from gentoo.. and i hope i can stay here for serveral years to come...
[01:58] <z3r0_d> dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed.
[01:58] <harisund> Hello, what repo do I need to add for the drivers of ATI Radeon Xpress 200M in 64bit Ubuntu?
[01:58] <synth7> i saw a commercial saying circuit city would give your computer a "checkup" for free if you brought it in
[01:58] <LyokoTails> Is it possible to make a partition and then share the same free disk space that Windows has?
[01:58] <synth7> and im thinking
[01:58] <synth7> ill take in my Ubuntu box
[01:58] <TheGame> LyokoTails: yes it is
[01:58] <TheGame> wiat
[01:58] <sethk> synth7, might be funny, but it's a marketting ploy anyway; they'll tell you why you need a new computer
[01:58] <TheGame> maybe ur asking a different question
[01:59] <synth7> sethk: ill laugh
[01:59] <pstickne> LyokoTails: if you create a filesystem that both Windows and Ubuntu understand, sure
[01:59] <davebgimp> LyokoTails: No, but you could make a shared partition that's FAT32
[01:59] <Boj> Ok found the pastebot, wheres the X log file kept?
[01:59] <andresmujica> use fat32
[01:59] <z3r0_d> LoyokoTails: or you could resize down your windows partition
[01:59] <sethk> LyokoTails, yes.  for read/write access from both OSes, use VFAT
[01:59] <andresmujica> or look for captive ntfs
[01:59] <TheGame> i think hes asking if he can install linux and windows ont he same partition
[01:59] <z3r0_d> any ideas what this is? I get it pretty much any time I try to install anything
[01:59] <LyokoTails> Well, does that mean I have to install Win2k again with FAT this time
[01:59] <sethk> TheGame, I don't think so.
[01:59] <z3r0_d> dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed.
[01:59] <pstickne> Boj: /var/log
[01:59] <andresmujica> or you can try a ext3 driver for windows, search google for it
[02:00] <sethk> LyokoTails, only if you've used up all your space
[02:00] <sethk> TheGame, looks like you were right and I was wrong  :)
[02:00] <LyokoTails> No, I wanted to make a 2 gig partiton for linux and wanted to use the sam efree disk space as Windows
[02:00] <pstickne> There were some linux distributions back in the day that would install "linux in windows"
[02:00] <TheGame> ya
[02:00] <andresmujica> Lyoko, maybe you can try colinux, it's a windows driver that hosts linux inside windows
[02:00] <sethk> LyokoTails, if it is unpartitioned space, make it a vfat (==fat32) partition
[02:00] <LyokoTails> I have heard of that
[02:01] <sethk> LyokoTails, then both windows and ubuntu will be able to read and write to it
[02:01] <sethk> LyokoTails, in windows, just create a new partition and tell it to be FAT, not NTFS
[02:01] <LyokoTails> Oh
[02:01] <sethk> LyokoTails, then ubuntu (or any other linux) will be able to read and write to it after you mount it (and/or add it to your /etc/fstab, which tells the OS what partitions to use)
[02:01] <Boj> Erm, there doesn't seem to be any text in my X log?
[02:02] <sethk> LyokoTails, is that what you were asking?
[02:02] <sethk> Boj, not likely.  X has started and then shut down?
[02:02] <z3r0_d> Boj, /etc/X11/Xorg.0.log ?
[02:02] <LyokoTails> I was thinking of going to Kubuntu and wanted to keep Windows that is why I'm asking
[02:02] <sethk> z3r0_d, /var/log, not /etc/X11
[02:02] <z3r0_d> erm, I got that wrong
[02:02] <TheGame> yes lyoko u can do that
[02:02] <z3r0_d> yeah, thanks sethk
[02:02] <torpedo|dog> sethk: http://pastebin.ca/125867
[02:02] <TheGame> u can have two separate partitions
[02:02] <Kaiser> if i defrag my hard drive will the ubuntu gparted work with NTFS partitions and not explode it
[02:02] <LyokoTails> Cool
[02:02] <TheGame> one for linux and one for windows
[02:03] <sethk> LyokoTails, if there is empty space on the disk, you can do it.  If you've already used the entire disk, you would have to shrink the windows partition with something like gparted
[02:03] <TheGame> and both can share files but u wont be able to write to windows unless it is fat
[02:03] <torpedo|dog> Kaiser: parted almost never explodes anything
[02:03] <sethk> LyokoTails, or you can add a second hard drive to the box
[02:03] <z3r0_d> Kaiser, it's worth backing up regardless
[02:03] <Tutter> if u got windows now, get partition magic and reparition your hd
[02:03] <torpedo|dog> it tries not to explode things as good as it can. But backups are ALWAYS good.
[02:03] <LyokoTails> I have Partition Logic, will that help?
[02:03] <sysdoc> Partition tragic?? LMAO!
[02:03] <Boj> Yeah I'm looking at the Xorg.O.log in /var/log and theres nothing on it?
[02:03] <Kaiser> i think i have partition magic 6
[02:03] <Tutter> partition magic worked fine for me
[02:04] <LyokoTails> Can't get Partitoon Magic
[02:04] <Tutter> has never failed me yet.
[02:04] <LyokoTails> Don't have money
[02:04] <sethk> torpedo|dog, remind me, what is your problem again?  I know I asked you to paste your log file, but I don't remember what we were talking about  :)
[02:04] <torpedo|dog> sethk: trying to get fglrx to work ;)
[02:04] <sethk> LyokoTails, gparted is free and does more or less what partition magic does
[02:04] <Centaur5> How can I be connected to dial up and still be able to browse network folders?
[02:04] <PupUsere7dd6c> Hello, I hope no one minds a ntfsprogs question.  Does anyone know how to do an integrity check on ntfsclone?
[02:04] <andresmujica> hey, i've got a win2k qemu guest inside my ubuntu, but i'm noticing a 100% cpu usage at the guest  anyone knows if is something normal?
[02:04] <LyokoTails> But gparted is for linux only
[02:05] <drbreen> LyokoTails: BUT it is on life cd !
[02:05] <torpedo|dog> LyokoTails: you can use the LiveCD
[02:05] <rsk> life cd
[02:05] <rsk> rofl
[02:05] <LyokoTails> Live CD you mean
[02:05] <drbreen> life <-> live stupid me
[02:05] <sethk> torpedo|dog, according to the log, fglrx is working
[02:05] <calmatory> life cd :D
[02:05] <inc|freaky> drbreen: why are you using ubuntu as OS on your server?
[02:05] <jordanau> if killall fails, what is the next step to stop a process
[02:05] <sethk> torpedo|dog, I would tell it to not use the frame buffer
[02:05] <LyokoTails> No Big Deal, Thanks
[02:06] <drbreen> inc|freaky: b/c debain stable is old and outdated and ubuntu is new and fresh ?
[02:06] <mcphail> jordanau: kill -9 PID
[02:06] <baconbacon> killall FAILS?
[02:06] <torpedo|dog> sethk: doesn't seem like it: fglrxinfo reports "OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org"
[02:06] <sethk> drbreen, debian stable is stable
[02:06] <drbreen> inc|freaky: b/c it is the distro of the month ?
[02:06] <sethk> torpedo|dog, that's not an error
[02:06] <LyokoTails> Anyone got a Ubuntu Collection going on?
[02:06] <inc|freaky> drbreen: dunno but i was happier with debian etch
[02:06] <sethk> drbreen, debian has the other two varieties if you want something more up to date
[02:07] <baconbacon> jordanau: kill -KILL (pid)
[02:07] <tanlaan> I am confused, I am trying to install something and it said that it expects perl to be in my path. What does it mean by in my path?
[02:07] <jordanau> what will that do
[02:07] <sethk> drbreen, stable is supposed to mean that the world is pretty sure everything works as expected.
[02:07] <Boj> Yeah, there isn't anything in the Xlog files. Would it be easier if I just msg'd you the section of my Xorg.conf, whoever wants it atleast.
[02:07] <sethk> tanlaan, your execution search path
[02:07] <inc|freaky> ubuntu-server is really not better than debian etch
[02:07] <torpedo|dog> sethk: where do I tell it not to use the framebuffer?
[02:07] <drbreen> inc|freaky: it was more or less _no_ rational decision. i tried out several distros and ubuntu stayed.
[02:07] <inc|freaky> both on a server
[02:07] <sethk> tanlaan, but that isn't your problem, because if perl is installed then it is in your execution search path
[02:07] <baconbacon> jordanau: send KILL signal to the process withi PID (pid)
[02:07] <visik7> anyone know an howto about unattended installations ?
[02:07] <pushpop> Question, When I go to install ubuntu it hangs on Mounting Root File System and Never prints up the partitioner?  I am trying to dual boot with windows Sata Drive is the windows hd and a IDE hard Disk I want to use for Ubuntu ANyone here have any ideas? Here is a SS of the error I get after it tries to load filesystem http://www.digitizememories.com/IMG_0960.jpg
[02:07] <sethk> tanlaan, so probably you should look at installing perl.
[02:08] <serion> Hi, hey, i have a small problem, how can I make my server see all 4 GB of RAM?
[02:08] <drbreen> sethk: i know what stable means. but ubuntu is fany and stylish ;)
[02:08] <tanlaan> sethk: ok, just wanted to make sure I wasnt doing something wrong.
[02:08] <serion> it can only see and use 800MB
[02:08] <HeXiOn> hello
[02:08] <drbreen> sethk: fancy
[02:08] <HeXiOn> anyone here knows about LIRC?
[02:08] <inc|freaky> im really dissapointed with the server version of ubuntu
[02:08] <sethk> torpedo|dog, I do it with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:08] <drbreen> sethk: what are these other 2 debian flavors ?
[02:08] <torpedo|dog> sethk: okay, thanks
[02:08] <inc|freaky> drbreen: testing and unstable
[02:08] <visik7> !unattended
[02:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about unattended - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:08] <sethk> drbreen, one is testing, and the other is ... somebody remind me
[02:08] <visik7> !kickstart
[02:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about kickstart - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:09] <visik7> !autoinstall
[02:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about autoinstall - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:09] <inc|freaky> sethk: unstable
[02:09] <sethk> inc|freaky, thanks
[02:09] <jordanau> mcphail, baconbacon, thank you
[02:09] <drbreen> inc|freaky: i liked ubuntu server.
[02:10] <LyokoTails> But Ubuntu Server does'nt have ebverything the original install has, does it?
[02:10] <HeXiOn> in LIRC, irxevent only works for CurrentWindow, not specifying an application, anyone knows how to correct that bug?
[02:10] <dm_> Can anyone help me with COMPIZ??
[02:10] <mcphail> jordanau: np. Now go and try "killall" on a solaris machine ;p
[02:10] <crimsun> dm_: have you checked #ubuntu-xgl?
[02:10] <dm_> crimsun didnt know it existed
[02:10] <drbreen> sethk: but i somehow expect ubuntu to have more nail polish... ok, i started learning linux/unix stuff with slackware but sometimes everything becomes too much... and then, you're happy b/c it works...
[02:11] <Boj> Yeah, there isn't anything in the Xlog files. Would it be easier if I just msg'd you the section of my Xorg.conf, whoever wants it atleast?
[02:11] <drbreen> sethk: and in the same time you can show off the fancy features and reccomend it to your fellow matees.
[02:11] <sethk> drbreen, there is no doubt in my mind that debian is harder for a new user to install and configure.
[02:11] <Perkins> Would someone here happen to know where Ubuntu mounts SMB shares when you use the desktop tools?  Or does it fake it somehow?
[02:11] <LyokoTails> Anyone use Torrent Programs for legal purposes
[02:12] <sethk> drbreen, and it works quite well out of the box.  However, I wait two months after the release of a new major version
[02:12] <mcphail> LyokoTails: many of us obtained our ubuntu cds via bittorrent
[02:12] <sethk> drbreen, So I'm still on Breezy, and having no problems.  After others have found and ironed out all the v6 problems, I'll upgrade.
[02:12] <LyokoTails> Oh
[02:12] <drbreen> sethk: i heard from a skolelinux dev that debian is easy to install for a chicken. you should put enough wheat on the enter key, though ... ;)
[02:12] <jordanau> #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:12] <LyokoTails> I guess 'm the only Shipit user then
[02:12] <jordanau> whoops
[02:12] <drbreen> sethk: like i said, my server is on breezy too.
[02:13] <sethk> drbreen, ubuntu is very good about not making you sit there and press enter
[02:13] <sethk> drbreen, I agree with you there.
[02:13] <zane> hi
[02:14] <Perkins> So, I can't seem to find where the bloody thing is mounting my SMB shares...  Which is a problem when you have a program that needs a path...
[02:14] <drbreen> sethk: cause sometimes problems are there with major releases - the kubuntu dapper printer disaster (tm) angered some of my friends - to the point where they were considering windows again - luckily they kept ubuntu w/o me brainwashing them.
[02:15] <Boj> Anyone able to help me with this pesky resolution problem, my eyes are really starting to hurt.
[02:15] <sethk> Perkins, mount (with no arguments) shows you what is currently mounted
[02:15] <LyokoTails> Is there a colinux channel anywhere
[02:15] <drbreen> Perkins: why dont you type 'mount' in the console
[02:15] <drbreen> BoJ: you have gnome ?
[02:15] <mzuverink> Anyone know why the option to do a lamp install is no longer available on the server install iso?
[02:15] <Boj> I think so
[02:16] <Perkins> sethk:  I tried that, it doesn't show up.  Does Ubuntu perchance fake the mounting somehow?
[02:17] <zane> I am having a bit of trouble installing ubuntu at the moment, I have searched and searched all over the internet but have found no solutions so here is my problem: I try to install ubuntu but it says it can't detect devce, I have to either choose from a list of drivers or install from disk. I have tried multiple cd romm drives and made sure that the computer was seeing them in the BIOS. has anyone encountered this problem here?
[02:17] <sethk> Perkins, no, if it is mounted it will show up in the mount output, type smbfs
[02:17] <NemesisUK> Perkins, what have you used to mount the shares?
[02:17] <sethk> zane, try disabling dma
[02:17] <mars> help me
[02:17] <eternaljoy> hi
[02:17] <zane> I will try that now, thanks
[02:17] <mars> my ati
[02:17] <mars> no run
[02:18] <eternaljoy> how can I stop popup windows from firefox?  I have popup disabled, but some popups still occur? ANY solution please?
[02:18] <mars> help me please!!!!!
[02:18] <zane> sethk, is that an option you specify when you go to hit ENTER at the first boot screen?
[02:18] <Boj> But I have tried changing it through System --> Preferences --> Screen resolution to no avail.
[02:19] <Boj> eternaljoy, get adblock extension for Firefox.
[02:19] <Mecubus> I have a question about tpb (the on-screen display). I've followed the install guide on the forum and i've got it to work. But after the screensaver go activated the on-screen display doesn't show. I've tried restarting the computer, reinstalling TPB but it won't work now.
[02:19] <sethk> zane, right.  hit f1, and find the info about diabling dma
[02:19] <zane> thanks
[02:19] <sethk> zane, it's in the help; I forget exactly where
[02:19] <Perkins> NemesisUK:  The connect to Server in the Places menu.  Only it doesn't seem to actually mount the drive anywhere, it just uses it.  Wondering if I need to mount it from the command line instead.
[02:19] <Black_Bishop> eternaljoy:  You might be getting flash popups.  Get the adblock extension and if you really want to stop everything, the flashblock extension.
[02:19] <mars> well
[02:19] <mars> my ati no run
[02:20] <mars> only terminal
[02:20] <mars> no display gdm
[02:20] <NemesisUK> Perkins, yeah mount them from the cmd line, or if their permanent add them to fstab
[02:20] <pstickne> is there a way to install ubuntu using the normal CD _without_ going through the _painful_ live CD process?
[02:20] <mars> only terminal
[02:20] <Perkins> NemesisUK:  Thanks.  That's what I needed to know.
[02:20] <mcphail> pstickne: use the alternate cd
[02:20] <NemesisUK> :)
[02:21] <pstickne> mcphail: gah. lame.
[02:21] <sethk> pstickne, confusing question, since that's the purpose of the normal CD
[02:21] <gfxstyler> hi
[02:21] <sethk> pstickne, or did I miss something?
[02:21] <pstickne> sethk: no, cool would be "expert install" boot option on normal cd.
[02:22] <pstickne> sethk: it takes 20 minutes of nothing and doing the same thing multiple times to get everything up.
[02:22] <zane> sethk, this option is in brezzy badger5.10?
[02:22] <sethk> pstickne, I think that you can probably do it.
[02:22] <sethk> zane, yes
[02:22] <sethk> zane, it is a kernel command line flag, I believe   ide=nodma
[02:23] <sethk> zane, look for "booting on unusual machines" or some such language
[02:23] <zane> sethk, yep, I see what you mean... now I just have to test it
[02:23] <sethk> zane, sorry I don't remember the real wording.  Hit f1 at the prompt; hopefully it won't be terribly painful to find.
[02:23] <sethk> zane, it has a chance of working.  Does this box/cd run properly with windows?  that is, do we know the hardware is good?
[02:24] <sethk> zane, you said you've tried more than one cd drive, but there is still a possibility of a hardware error, on the mobo for example.
[02:24] <zane> yeah, it does run in windows, I have also just replace a faulty hard drive in it and at the same time i ran tests on the other hardware... it is all fine
[02:25] <sethk> zane, also, check that the drive jumpering matches the ide cabling and interface.  I've seen a lot of people get into trouble that way.  Make sure that if the cable connecting to the cd drive is an EIDE cable, the drive is jumpered for cable select
[02:25] <sethk> zane, an EIDE cable has a blue connector, black connector, and grey connector
[02:26] <GNAM> UBUNTU 6.06.1 OUT!
[02:26] <sethk> zane, an (not extended) IDE cable has three black connectors; in that case you jumper with master and slave.
[02:26] <jordanau> !rar
[02:26] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[02:27] <zane> sethk, damn! I think that is the problem... also I do know about ide cables and such as I am a pc tech... but I suppose I just wasn't using my head! lol
[02:27] <GNAM> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/6.06.1/release.1/
[02:27] <mike-e> anyone good with troubleshooting sound?
[02:27] <sethk> zane, it's an easy thing to overlook.
[02:27] <GNAM> more than 300 bugfixes updates in ubuntu 6.06.1
[02:28] <eternaljoy> how can I install the adblock extension for Firefox?
[02:28] <morla> hi. i have opera installed from cannonical's commerc. repo. now how do I update to v9.01?
[02:29] <torpedo|dog> eternaljoy: http://addons.mozilla.org/
[02:29] <eternaljoy> Black_Bishop: where I get the flashblock extension?
[02:29] <eternaljoy> torpedo|dog: cheers!
[02:29] <torpedo|dog> eternaljoy: you're welcome :)
[02:29] <eternaljoy> :)
[02:29] <torpedo|dog> Hmmmm.
[02:29] <torpedo|dog> dpkg is asking me questions about my monitor's refresh rate...I think I'm on DVI, so...should I just leave it as-is?
[02:30] <hellokthulu> hey -- the image on my monitor is off by about two pixels to the right... any clues?
[02:30] <Black_Bishop> eternaljoy:  In firefox, go to the top menus Tools>Extensions and then lower right hand corner, "Get more Extensions"
[02:30] <hellokthulu> LEFT!  I meant left.  Ooops :-)
[02:30] <sethk> DVI still requires refresh rate
[02:30] <torpedo|dog> sethk: just leave it the way dpkg already has it?
[02:30] <torpedo|dog> D'oh, It wasn't refresh rate, but vertical/horizontal sync
[02:30] <sethk> torpedo|dog, as long as it correctly identified your monitor
[02:31] <torpedo|dog> sethk: goodo
[02:31] <cartur25> hey guys, I'm trying to partition my disc with qtparted but i get "Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed
[02:31] <cartur25> " - any ideas?
[02:31] <Boj> Could someone tell me whats wrong with this please. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20231
[02:31] <nalioth>  cartur25 did gparted open?
[02:31] <nalioth> cartur25: er, qtparted?
[02:31] <sethk> cartur25, are you running it as root?
[02:31] <cartur25> yes but the option to create a partition is greyed out
[02:31] <Poromenos> what's the difference between nv and nvidia drivers?
[02:31] <nalioth> cartur25: try 'kdesu qtparted'
[02:31] <cartur25> yes, in the terminal i entered: gksudo qtparted
[02:31] <rsk> nv open source nvidia binary closed source
[02:31] <sethk> cartur25, you are root but that option is greyed out?  I've only seen it greyed out when not run as root
[02:31] <neutrinomass> Poromenos:  nv is the open source driver AFAIK, nvidia is nvidia's binary blob
[02:31] <sethk> cartur25, odd
[02:32] <nalioth> cartur25: actually, it'd be better to do it from a LiveCD
[02:32] <hellokthulu> Anyone know how to get 'ssh' to work?  It's in /etc/services...
[02:32] <cartur25> I am in live cd right now
[02:32] <Poromenos> i changed it to nvidia but it's telling me it can't find the kernel driver
[02:32] <jrib> !ssh > hellokthulu
[02:32] <Poromenos> any ideas?
[02:32] <neutrinomass> !nvidia > Poromenos
[02:32] <sethk> Poromenos, nvidia is an add on driver you download from nvidia's web site
[02:32] <hellokthulu> jrib -- ???
[02:32] <Black_Bishop> eternaljoy:  Scratch that.  Here is the link:  https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/433/
[02:32] <Poromenos> sethk: not apt-get?
[02:32] <sethk> Poromenos, the free driver for nvidia is called nv
[02:32] <neutrinomass> Poromenos: Follow that guide. It worked for me ...
[02:32] <jrib> hellokthulu: check your private messages from ubotu :)
[02:33] <hellokthulu> THANKS!
[02:33] <Poromenos> neutrinomass: i've done that :/
[02:33] <cartur25> nalioth: I get command not found when entering "kdesu qtparted"
[02:33] <Poromenos> "nvidia-glx is already the newest version."
[02:33] <sethk> cartur25, try /usr/bin/kdesu
[02:33] <Poromenos> yet "nvidia" doesn't work
[02:33] <nalioth> cartur25: do you have kubuntu?
[02:33] <sethk> Poromenos, do lsmod, make sure the nvidia kernel module is loaded
[02:33] <sethk> Poromenos, if not, do  modprobe nvidia
[02:34] <cartur25> sethk: Do you have any code to get into qtparted as root? I'm trying "gksudo parted" and it's still greyed out
[02:34] <torpedo|dog> sethk: one last xorg.conf thing: if dpkg added a bunch of Tablet PC-only stuff to my xorg.conf, can I safely comment it out? I don't have a tablet ;)
[02:34] <TheGame> how do i set ctrl alt del to open system monitor
[02:34] <cartur25> nalioth: I'm using Ubuntu
[02:34] <Poromenos> sethk: Module nvidia not found
[02:34] <sethk> cartur25, I just run it as root.    try, in a terminal, running sudo -i,  then at the next prompt run qtparted
[02:34] <Boj> Trying to get my resolution to go go at 1024*768, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20231 That is what I've done so far but to no avail.
[02:34] <sethk> Poromenos, ok, then it isn't properly installed for the kernel that is running
[02:34] <OtavioRibeiro> Poromenos: are you using X.org?
[02:34] <Poromenos> sethk: hmm, any ideas what i could do? it was running fine a reboot ago
[02:34] <nalioth> cartur25: then type "gksudo gparted"
[02:35] <Poromenos> OtavioRibeiro: i think so, i'm running the X that came with ubuntu
[02:35] <Poromenos> Boj: delete the 1280x1024s
[02:35] <sethk> Poromenos, you didn't update the kernel, or boot a different kernel at the grub prompt?
[02:35] <OtavioRibeiro> Poromenos: use --x-module-path=/usr/lib/xorg
[02:35] <mike-e> nalioth: can you think of any way to get ubuntu to recognize and use my ISA pnp Sound Blaster sound card? I added the sb module to etc/modules, I can get sound when playing files through vlc, gnome-volume control works fine and isn't marked as muted (i can toggle it and hear the feedback) however double clicking on mp3's gives me the 'no sound card detected' prompt and system sounds won't play etc
[02:35] <cartur25> sethk: how do I undo "sudo -i" (for later)?
[02:35] <sethk> cartur25, exit
[02:35] <Poromenos> sethk: i didn't update it that i know of (unless there was an update) and i'm booting the normal entry at grub
[02:35] <mcphail> morla: i know nothing about the commercial repo, but the versions in "deb http://deb.opera.com/opera etch non-free" seem to work.
[02:35] <OtavioRibeiro> the nvidia driver install by default inside the X11R6 directory
[02:36] <zane> sethk, I changed the jumpering to cable select and tried that without the dma option set and it still gave me problems, I now going through the option to the and find this dma thing (I am tryung to boot the live ubuntu first before installing)
[02:36] <Boj> Ok, Poromenos, i'll try that. THankyou
[02:36] <Poromenos> OtavioRibeiro: use that what?
[02:36] <Poromenos> Boj: np
[02:36] <nalioth> mike-e: i'm not very good with sound (my box uses the pc-speaker for sounds :0 )
[02:36] <Poromenos> OtavioRibeiro: err, use it where?
[02:36] <mike-e> ok
[02:36] <sethk> Poromenos, You would have had to do a kernel update, so if you didn't, then you are running the same kernel.  Unless you did a major upgrade that includes a new kernel
[02:36] <OtavioRibeiro> Poromenos: when installing nvidia official drivers!
[02:36] <Poromenos> sethk: i don't think so
[02:36] <Poromenos> OtavioRibeiro: hmm, i just apt-got nvidia-glx
[02:36] <morla> mcphail: is this the newest version, reallest a few days ago?
[02:36] <Poromenos> it ran fine yesterday, then i rebooted today and it was gone
[02:36] <cartur25> sethk: I am logged in as root, after typing "gksudo qtparted" i get "(gksudo:8372): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[02:36] <cartur25> "
[02:37] <Poromenos> i installed xgl/compiz btw
[02:37] <nalioth> cartur25: did gparted open?
[02:37] <sethk> cartur25, ah, good, that shows that, before, you were _not_ root
[02:37] <mcphail> morla: wait and i'll check the version number...
[02:37] <cartur25> nalioth: no
[02:37] <nalioth> cartur25: i recommend a LiveCD
[02:37] <eternaljoy> I installed adblock extension for Firefox and restarted Firefox! However, there are still popups that occur!  ANY solution please?
[02:37] <cartur25> nalioth: I am on a live cd right now
[02:37] <mcphail> morla: version 9.01
[02:37] <sethk> cartur25, start a terminal, and do:     xhost +
[02:38] <Poromenos> i removed nvidia-glx and installed it again and it's still not found :(
[02:38] <morla> mcphail: superb! thanks
[02:38] <nalioth> cartur25: that explains it.  just type sudo gparted
[02:38] <Poromenos> my kernel is
[02:38] <sethk> cartur25, at the sudo -i prompt, make sure that DISPLAY is set to :0.0
[02:38] <Poromenos> 2.6.15-26-386 apparently
[02:38] <Poromenos> can i use xgl with nv?
[02:38] <mcphail> morla: remember - non-standard repos are at your own risk...
[02:38] <Poromenos> or is that not recommended?
[02:39] <morla> mcphail: opera has a build-in update mechanism, but i'm unsure if i can use it when i got it via aptitude
[02:39] <cartur25> sethk, after "xhost +" i get xhost:  unable to open display ""
[02:39] <Poromenos> i'll try to fix the resolution as well, brb
[02:39] <neutrinomass> Poromenos: Currently XGL is not recommended and many devs advise against it as it has broken systems ...
[02:39] <Poromenos> oh hmm
[02:39] <Poromenos> :(
[02:39] <cartur25> nalioth, sudo gparted results in terminate called after throwing an instance of 'Glib::OptionError'
[02:39] <cartur25> Aborted
[02:39] <mcphail> morla: i think the repo i mentioned above will keep the latest version
[02:39] <Poromenos> it's quite the eye candy though
[02:40] <cartur25> nalioth, note i am using qtparted not gparted
[02:40] <nalioth> cartur25: did you just burn your LiveCD ?
[02:40] <cartur25> yes
[02:40] <sethk> cartur25, you are doing that in a new terminal, not the one you did sudo -i, correct?
[02:40] <Poromenos> ah well, brb
[02:40] <cartur25> sethk, sorry ill do in new terminal
[02:40] <morla> mcphail: well i'll try it
[02:40] <cartur25> sethk, that code in new terminal results in - access control disabled, clients can connect from any host
[02:40] <sethk> cartur25, you have to do it as the logged in user.  then in the sudo -i terminal,  check that DISPLAY is set correctly
[02:41] <sethk> cartur25, good
[02:41] <nalioth> sethk: he's using a LiveCd, all that shouldn't be necessary
[02:41] <morla> mcphail: thanks
[02:41] <installin> hi!  I had to use the linux ide=nodma in my boot options to install ubuntu, but it installed (despite the unchangeable & rather huge screen resolution problem) but now when I load it from grub (dual os boot setup) it hangs again- can someone help?
[02:41] <sethk> nalioth, it's necessary the way he is running qparted.  Makes no difference that it's a live cd boot
[02:41] <sethk> qtparted, sorry
[02:42] <sethk> installin, did you add the ide=nodma to your grub config, or add it at the grub prompt?
[02:42] <cartur25> sethk, is there an easier way to make a partition to install xp on? will the xp installation allow me to easily partition my linux partition and install windows on it?
[02:42] <sethk> installin, you are going to have to track down why that's necessary, as it's a performance killer to use ide=nodma
[02:42] <installin> eh...I used the prompt-  I can't even get into ubuntu.  I'm not even sure how to use the grub.
[02:42] <dasos> where would ii find the grub configuration utility?
[02:43] <installin> yeah, grub isn't talking the ide=nodma now
[02:43] <sethk> cartur25, you can use windows to create a partition and then change it's type in linux, but you might as well just create it in linux.  Or did I misunderstand the question?
[02:43] <redblades> Hi, I'm making a presentation, and I need an ubuntu icon, that it semi transparent, or just a very subtle out line, and it must have transparent back layer too.
[02:43] <redblades> Does anyone know of such an image?
[02:43] <sethk> installin, probably a kernel option or possibly a kernel module needs to be loaded, that supports your IDE chipset with dma
[02:43] <derrickh> hi all, i'm trying to install xserver-xgl but get an error stating i have unmet dependencies, libxfont1 and libxcompsite.  i tried installing libxfont1 errored saying it was refered to another package but was not avaiable.  any advice?
[02:44] <installin> sethk - I'm an XP user who is just now making the switch - I know nothing of what you speak :)  lol.
[02:44] <installin> I dont know the language yet, persay.
[02:44] <installin> <-- hardware newb, linux newb, afraid of command lines.
[02:44] <cartur25> sethk: Right now I have only linux on my hard drive. I want to partition the hard drive so I can load win xp. Is it possible to partition my hard drive even though linux is already installed on it during the win xp install ?
[02:45] <installin> cartur25 I was told to do a dual boot you should install xp first, THEN ubuntu
[02:45] <xeh> i use ubuntu
[02:45] <xeh> and i love i
[02:45] <xeh> t
[02:45] <scrappy_> installin: hit esc at boot to get to grub menu and hit e to edit the first option then scroll to the second option with kernel and stuff listed hit e again to edit and add the ide=nodma hit enter then hit b to boot ---i think
[02:45] <cartur25> installin, that's not an option here
[02:46] <zane> argh! So I have set cd rom to cableselect, entered in ide=nodma when installing and I still ge the message "Your installation CD-ROM couldn't be mounted" Does anyone have anymore ideas?
[02:46] <sethk> cartur25, only if you have free space.
[02:46] <installin> ok, so when it gives me the OS selection prompt, I hit esc,  and edit the "root.." line? with the ide=nodma line?
[02:47] <sethk> cartur25, if you used the entire drive for linux, you'll have to shrink a partition to make room for windows.
[02:47] <sethk> cartur25, windows sometimes has problems if it doesn't boot from /dev/hda1
[02:47] <sethk> brb
[02:47] <gnomefreak> sethk: you ever try to debug aptitude by chance?
[02:47] <scrappy_> installin: you basically highlit whatever you want to edit and hit e
[02:47] <hellokthulu> This must have been asked 1e06 times already :-) but I just saw that Ubuntu 6.06.1 is out... am I auto-upgraded to that?
[02:47] <eternaljoy> I installed adblock extension for Firefox and restarted Firefox! However, there are still popups that occur!  ANY solution please?
[02:47] <installin> does it matter where I put the nodma line, though?
[02:48] <hellokthulu> eternaljoy: I've used Privoxy to great success...
[02:48] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: check in your prefferences
[02:48] <eamonc> Hey, I'm having trouble getting torrents of the ISOs. Are there any known issues with the tracker?
[02:48] <scrappy_> installin: just put it at the end should be fine you can remove that quiet splash if you want
[02:48] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: prefs in forefox you mean?
[02:48] <Boj> Wahey, 1024*768. Now my retinas will no longer be burnt. Thankyou all :D
[02:48] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: yes
[02:49] <cartur25> sethk, how can i shrink my linux partition, specifically my /dev/hda1 partition to make space for a winxp partition? (what program? - will winxp installation be able to do it?)
[02:49] <installin> awesome, let me go try it real quick- I've been doing this ALL DAY today, and all night last night.
[02:49] <Flannel> cartur25: use GParted.  windows won't be able to.
[02:49] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: block popup windows is ticked already
[02:49] <cartur25> Flannel: I'm using qtparted but im having a real hard time
[02:49] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: restart ff than
[02:49] <Flannel> cartur25: try Gparted
[02:49] <hellokthulu> eternaljoy: some sites use flash for popups, it defeats firefox
[02:49] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: yet when I use mail.com there are still popus when I login to my account!  Why?
[02:50] <nrdb> Hi I am looking for a good Tycoon type game for linux any recomendations?
[02:50] <xeh> cartur25, partition magic
[02:50] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: its been restarted already! yet still popups
[02:50] <derrickh> has anyone been able to watch any videos off of YouTube?  they are forcing a new version of flash.
[02:50] <sproingie> hellokthulu: scriptblock is nice for those
[02:50] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: dont know i dont use ff much unless im testing
[02:50] <eternaljoy> hellokthulu: ok! so whats the solution?
[02:50] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: what do you use?
[02:50] <hellokthulu> wish I knew :-)
[02:50] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: links2
[02:50] <eternaljoy> hellokthulu: LOL
[02:50] <eric__> I was hoping somebody could help this newbie compile a tarball.
[02:50] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: whats links2?
[02:50] <gnomefreak> text browser
[02:50] <hellokthulu> eric__ -- which one?
[02:50] <Boj> Is anyone using the 1.5.x.x version of firefox on Ubuntu?
[02:50] <eric__> I have the source code for the latest version of gnucash.
[02:50] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: no grapgics?
[02:50] <hellokthulu> Boj: 1.5.0.5 here
[02:51] <Supremacy> ok, i need help.. trying to bring over my thunderbird profile from xp into ubuntu
[02:51] <eric__> I downloaded it and extracted all of the files onto my desktop (why not?).
[02:51] <Flannel> !tell eric__ about compile
[02:51] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: nope there is a graphical mode on it but not like ff its still tested
[02:51] <hellokthulu> eric__ : yah, I usually make a new dir and 'tar xvf ../foo.tar' there
[02:51] <Boj> hellokthulu, Would it work ok on an amd64 processor?
[02:51] <nrdb> Supremacy: Done that a while ago maybe I can help
[02:51] <zane> has anyone here had any problems with installing ubuntu and ubuntu saying that it has failed to mount your cd-roma drive?
[02:51] <hellokthulu> Boj: No clue, sorry.
[02:51] <eric__> I do ./configure and I get "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"
[02:51] <Supremacy> as long as you can remember how you did it
[02:51] <Boj> Ok i'll give it ago
[02:52] <nrdb> eric__: did you install build esentials?
[02:52] <Supremacy> seems my xp had three different profiles of it
[02:52] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: can it display all websites?
[02:52] <cartur25> flannel: what is the difference between gparted and qtparted
[02:52] <Supremacy> but only one profile folder seems to contain the emails and blogs that i do need
[02:52] <Flannel> cartur25: theyre entirely different programs
[02:52] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: no
[02:52] <scrappy_> derrickh: i just tried and i can view fine
[02:52] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: install links2 ?
[02:53] <scrappy_> derrickh: have an example url?
[02:53] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: sure
[02:53] <gnomefreak> brb got something weird i need to fix
[02:54] <nrdb> Supremacy: you will need to find exactly where those are stored on the XP HDD in "user data" or something like that.
[02:54] <Boj> whats the command for unpacking tar.gzs in ubuntu?
[02:54] <installin> rock on.  I got a successful boot
[02:54] <eric__> OK.  I got 1/2 step further.  I type './configure INSTALL' - a bunch of stuff happens and I get the error "configure:error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool'.  Am I missing a dependency?  Help!
[02:54] <Supremacy> i used Backup4Win and put it on a cdrw
[02:54] <installin> now...a couple more questions...one being...
[02:54] <cartur25> flannel: should I download the program or the gparted livecd
[02:55] <Flannel> cartur25: is ubuntu installed on hda1?
[02:55] <installin> How can I find out why it hangs on without the nodma thing?  someone said it was a performance killer??
[02:55] <jrib> eric__: apt-get build-dep gnucash, may help you.  But for XML:Parser perl, you need libxml-parser-perl in particular
[02:55] <cartur25> yes with the swap on hda5
[02:55] <Flannel> cartur25: then you'll have to use the liveCD, since you can't resize a partition while it's mounted
[02:55] <nrdb> eric__: look like it you will need to install that perl module first.
[02:56] <eric__> nrdb:  Thought I did.  Lemme look.
[02:56] <nrdb> Supremacy: can you read the individual files from the backup?
[02:56] <Supremacy> yep
[02:57] <cartur25> flannel: i'm on an ubuntu livecd right now and qtparted is still not working - is it because qtparted is a poor program?
[02:57] <installin> How can I find out why ubuntu hangs when mounting the root filesystem without the nodma line?  someone said it was a performance killer?
[02:57] <nrdb> Supremacy: I don't have any XP computer I can't check where the files are.
[02:57] <Supremacy> doesn't matter, i have them on a cdrw now
[02:57] <nrdb> Supremacy: what email system where you using on XP?
[02:57] <eric__> nrdb: According to Synaptic, I have the latest version of perl installed (5.8.7-10ubuntu1), as well as perl-base.  There are some other perl things I could install, like -byacc, debug, doc.
[02:58] <Supremacy> Thunderbird
[02:58] <installin> brb
[02:58] <Flannel> cartur25: I prefer GParted myself.  Never used QT-
[02:58] <nrdb> eric__: you might have to install the module manually I don't know much about perl modules to tell if it is in a package.
[02:59] <Supremacy> Backup4win copied everything that was in Profiles folder and put it on a cdrw
[02:59] <nrdb> Supremacy: good
[02:59] <cartur25> flannel: after i boot from gparted livecd what will happen?
[02:59] <eric__> nrdb: I hope you are wrong.  I'll let you know in a minute.
[02:59] <nrdb> Supremacy: there will be a directory with a 'Mail' directory somewhere there.
[03:00] <Supremacy> yes, i see that on the rw
[03:00] <Flannel> cartur25: you can resize your disks
[03:00] <nrdb> Supremacy: has it a weird name?
[03:00] <jrib> eric__: did you try the package I mentioned?
[03:00] <cartur25> flannel: do i need to run umount and swapoff or will they be already unmounted by booting from live cd
[03:00] <blabit> anyone in here wanna show me how to add flash media player to firefox?
[03:00] <Supremacy> yeah, it's in a folder with random letters and numbers
[03:00] <jrib> !flash > blabit
[03:01] <eric__> jrib: Sorry - what package?
[03:01] <blabit> Jrib, what does that mean?
[03:01] <IRC> i just installed schooltool. what is the adress i have to type in firefox to go to it?
[03:01] <jrib> eric__: apt-get build-dep gnucash, may help you.  But for XML:Parser perl, you need libxml-parser-perl in particular
[03:01] <Supremacy> there's three folders of random letters and numbers, but only one has Mail in it
[03:01] <nrdb> Supremacy: what is the name of the directory below that one?
[03:01] <jrib> eric__: libxml-parser-perl is the package
[03:01] <jrib> blabit: check your private messages from ubotu :)
[03:01] <blabit> k...thanx
[03:02] <Supremacy> ok, here's how it is: CDRW->Thunderbird->Profiles->ruwtzlxu.default->Mail
[03:03] <eric__> jrib: installing that one now.
[03:03] <Supremacy> and in the Mail folder are all the groups and emails that i had on that Thunderbird in XP
[03:03] <Supremacy> each group though being seperate folders
[03:03] <dasos> blabit, flash in FF? just search for flash in synaptic, make sure you have "show unsupported software" checked off
[03:04] <eric__> jrib: Got farther this time.  Now I get "Invalid configuration 'INSTALL': machine 'INSTALL' not recognized configure: error: /bin/sh ./config.sub INSTALL failed'.\
[03:04] <blabit> dasos.......what is synaptic?
[03:04] <cartur25> Do I need to download and install the dependencies of gparted if i am running off the gparted livecd?
[03:05] <dasos> blabit, Applications -> Add/Remove...
[03:05] <nrdb> Supremacy: you need to copy the directory "ruw..." to the ".mozilla-thunderbird" directory and edit .mozilla-thunderbird to reference the new directory.
[03:05] <jrib> eric__: not sure what that means, you did the apt-get build-dep gnucash command?
[03:05] <eric__> jrib: No - Lemme try that.
[03:06] <nrdb> Supremacy: that edit .mozilla-thunderbird/profiles.ini to reference it
[03:06] <jrib> eric__: that should install all the dependencies needed for building the version in the repositories
[03:06] <eric__> jrib: installing a whole mess of stuff ...
[03:06] <Supremacy> ok
[03:06] <Supremacy> hold on a sec
[03:06] <Supremacy> copying over now
[03:06] <yossman> hmm, annoying.  why is it not possible to rename printers
[03:06] <yossman> i get this sometimes under win32 and it drives me nuts.
[03:07] <yossman> i just installed the PDF printer using the postscript driver and cups-pdf, for eg
[03:07] <yossman> and i can't rename it to 'pdf printer'
[03:07] <Jman888> How do i change where a proftp user gets logged into
[03:07] <yossman> in fact i can't rename any of the printers i have installed
[03:07] <blabit> dasos, got synaptic up....how do install flash?
[03:07] <dasos> see that search box in the top right?
[03:07] <dasos> type in 'flash'
[03:07] <eric__> jrib: Getting the same error now.
[03:07] <valehru> Anyone here familiar with sed?  I want to delete lines 15 - 17 in a text file...whats the command?
[03:07] <eric__> jrib: Got farther this time.  Now I get "Invalid configuration 'INSTALL': machine 'INSTALL' not recognized configure: error: /bin/sh ./config.sub INSTALL failed'.\
[03:08] <blabit> dasos.....did so, which do i chose?
[03:08] <Daishi> ok im really freaking out now i KNOW Xorg is running at 60hz for my laptops lcd monitor...but gnome and xfce say its 61hz and i wouldnt be worried but i keep seeing quick 'blips' horizontal lines
[03:08] <Daishi> little flashes
[03:08] <jrib> eric__: not sure then, sorry
[03:08] <Supremacy> ah, nice
[03:08] <dasos> blabit, you may have to check the "show unsupported applications"
[03:08] <nrdb> eric__: did you try just "./configure"
[03:08] <Supremacy> that method worked
[03:08] <dasos> blabit, it is under the application window
[03:08] <blabit> dasos, I don't see that.
[03:08] <CalcMaster86>  ok, i've been messing with my ethernet card for a while... and can't get it to be autodetected... it's a dlink dfe 550tx, and i'm pretty sure it uses the sundance module... i've modprobe sundance, and that works fine, however, it still doesn't detect the card
[03:09] <dasos> blabit, right in the middle of the screen
[03:09] <Daishi> is 61hz bad for a lcd monitor?
[03:09] <Daishi> when its supposed to be 60?
[03:09] <nrdb> Supremacy: so it all up the way you want ?
[03:09] <eric__> nrdb: BRILLIANT! ./configure was the way to go.
[03:09] <eric__> nrdb: now for MAKE.
[03:09] <DanielCH> hi
[03:09] <Supremacy> sort of
[03:09] <nrdb> eric__: good :)
[03:09] <holycow> CalcMaster86, i don't think that card is supported ... *hmm*
[03:10] <blabit> dasos, got it, thank you
[03:10] <CalcMaster86>  well, d-link says it's supported in red hat enterprise
[03:10] <Supremacy> but i think it's right
[03:10] <Jman888> Hello? How can i get a proftp user to use a certain directory
[03:10] <Supremacy> just doesn't show the emails in the lower plane
[03:10] <dasos> blabit, no problem, lots of fun software in there too, take a look, uninstalling extra stuff is as easy as unchecking it and hitting apply
[03:10] <CalcMaster86>  holycow: i couldn't get it working in fedora core either though
[03:10] <DanielCH> ?
[03:11] <holycow> CalcMaster86, ah so you seem to be correct, i remember having issues with dlink and stopped using them.
[03:11] <nrdb> I am looking for a good tycoon type game, is there any recomendations?
[03:11] <Supremacy> Roller Coaster Tycoon
[03:11] <Zambezi> How can I extract compressed zipfiles in exe-format in terminal?
[03:11] <CalcMaster86>  holycow: heh, i've kept d-link because of failures with other brands... windows of course though
[03:11] <eric__> nrdb: I have to admit, I'm feeling pretty dim right now.  Make has no make targets.  Do I just say 'make'?
[03:12] <nrdb> eric__: generally, is there a README file?
[03:12] <smacky> how do i do ipconfig in a terinal ?
[03:12] <SurfnKid> ifconfig
[03:12] <smacky> thx
[03:12] <CalcMaster86>  holycow: threads like this one: http://www.justlinux.com/forum/showthread.php?t=59447&highlight=sundance say to disable PnP in the bios... which i did... funny thing though, whenever i start up the machine, it says the bios is disabled
[03:12] <xeh> How do i get permission to write to certain files where would i 'login' kind of thing
[03:12] <nrdb> smacky: that ifconfig
[03:12] <eric__> nrdb: Yes, but it's not helping.
[03:13] <CalcMaster86>  when xp use to be installed on the machine, it never said that
[03:13] <BlueEagle> calcmaster86: Which D-link card are you using?
[03:13] <BlueEagle> calcmaster86: (ie what does lspci call it?)
[03:13] <CalcMaster86>  dfe-550tx
[03:13] <CalcMaster86>  um...
[03:13] <nrdb> eric__: by not making any targets what did it say.
[03:13] <CalcMaster86>  blueeagle: what should i type to find that out?
[03:13] <eric__> nrdb: Aaah.. Should have read better.  Readme says it uses GNU Automake .. ?\
[03:13] <BlueEagle> calcmaster86: That needs either the 8139too module or the tulip module or the via-rhine module. Don't remember which.
[03:13] <CalcMaster86>  i'm a newbie for installations and hardware installs
[03:14] <jrib> xeh: I don't really understand what you want, can you be more speicific?
[03:14] <nrdb> eric__: what do you get with "make --version"
[03:14] <BlueEagle> calcmaster86: to install these modules do the following: sudo modprobe 8139too && sudo modprobe tulip && sudo modprobe via-rhine
[03:14] <EnsignRedshirt> eric__: Try make with no arguments.  The configure command should have set it up to work.
[03:15] <Supremacy> my gxine doesn't give sound anymore.. hmm
[03:15] <BlueEagle> does modprobe take multiple modulenames anyone?
[03:15] <Boj> Does anyone know how to install Flash 8 on firefox?
[03:15] <CalcMaster86>  ok, i get no errors
[03:15] <rmw75> how can you mount a windows partitons.... I have one drive, partion with windows and the default partitions installed with ubuntu
[03:15] <eric__> nrdb: GNU Make 3.81beta4
[03:16] <jrib> Boj: flash 8 hasn't been released for linux, not will it be I believe
[03:16] <Jman888> can somebody help me with proftpd
[03:16] <jrib> Boj: s/not/nor
[03:16] <wirelain> Moo!
[03:16] <BlueEagle> calcmaster86: Good. Now type: ifconfig
[03:16] <BlueEagle> calcmaster86: do you get an entry for eth0 ?
[03:16] <Boj> i mean 7
[03:16] <nrdb> eric__: good,  what was the command you used ?
[03:16] <xeh> jrib, i am trying to install flash player by manually dragging the plugins into the firefox plugins folder and i get an error message saying "Error while copying to "/usr/lib/firefox/plugins". You do not have permissions to write to this folder."
[03:16] <Drakkon> I just need help on installing wine-o.9.17
[03:16] <jrib> !flash > Boj
[03:16] <dibblego> where do you configure how long a terminal is idle before needing to sudo again?
[03:16] <CalcMaster86>  blueeagle: lsmod shows the modules are there, ifconfig just shows the loopback device
[03:17] <dibblego> xeh, use sudo
[03:17] <BlueEagle> calcmaster86: ok. The number after each network module is it always 0 or does one of them read 1 or greater?
[03:17] <jrib> xeh: why not use the package to install flash?
[03:17] <nrdb> dibblego: you can use the command "sudo su -" for a perminent root login
[03:17] <dibblego> nrdb, yes I know
[03:17] <CalcMaster86>  blueeagle: yup, all four of them are 0
[03:17] <shawn> I did a dapper install but the default X config might have the refresh rate too high, so now I'm in rescue mode but don't know offhand where the x config file is
[03:18] <EnsignRedshirt> dibblego: According to "man sudo", the time limit is in the sudoers files (/etc/sudoers).
[03:18] <BlueEagle> calcmaster86: Ahh, yes. It will be. Hang on I'll check to see how to go about this. :)
[03:18] <dibblego> EnsignRedshirt, thanks, I must be blind
[03:18] <nrdb> shawn: /etc/X11
[03:18] <shawn> thanks
[03:18] <xeh> dibblego, "ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the
[03:18] <xeh>        Macromedia Flash Player installer.
[03:18] <xeh> " is what i get thru sudo
[03:18] <CalcMaster86>  blueeagle: thank you!
[03:18] <Boj> I get the same Xeh
[03:18] <dibblego> xeh, seems pretty conclusive to me
[03:18] <xeh> this is the pants of society trying to install flashplayer
[03:19] <Boj> lol
[03:19] <Drakkon> lol
[03:19] <yanis> can't I used k3b to burn audio cd from mp3s?
[03:19] <farous> is there is a howto for mounting nfs?
[03:19] <shawn> ok there is no /etc/X11
[03:19] <shawn> any other place it might be
[03:19] <Drakkon> anyone have knowlage what dir wine needs to be to install?
[03:19] <shawn> ?
[03:19] <riddlebox> isnt there a way to make firefox tell sites it is ie 6.o or higher?
[03:19] <shawn> it's a dapper server cd that I used
[03:19] <shawn> if that makes a difference
[03:19] <Drakkon> yea plugins riddlebox
[03:20] <dibblego> riddlebox, there is a plugin
[03:20] <BlueEagle> calcmaster86: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[03:20] <Boj> You won't find /etc/X11 on the CD shawn
[03:20] <riddlebox> do you gues happen to know what plugin it is?
[03:20] <Boj> its only there once you've installed it onto your HDD
[03:20] <riddlebox> gues/guys
[03:20] <redblades> Hi, how do I change my home directory?
[03:20] <nrdb> shawn: there is on mine !
[03:20] <jrib> xeh: there isn't a 64bit flash afaik, you might want to look into setting up a chroot and use the 32bit.  Or consider just using 32bit ubuntu if you are really into multimedia
[03:20] <BlueEagle> calcmaster86: then run ifconfig again and see if you've got an entry for eth0
[03:20] <Supremacy> speaking of firefox, i have the current flash plugin's installed and everything, but everytime i go to a site that has flash, it tells me that i need to install the plugin.. ???
[03:20] <shawn> I'm looking at the installed drive
[03:20] <bsdfox> can anyone advise me on using amarok to copy album covers to my ipod?
[03:20] <farous> !nfs
[03:20] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[03:20] <redblades> I need to make sure that when I login it knows I'm actually using a different directory, instead of just me using a folder.
[03:20] <jrib> Supremacy: how did you install it?
[03:21] <shawn> I booted in rescue from cd because once it got into what I presume is ubuntu's default X login my monitor stopped working
[03:21] <Drakkon> ok somone plese answer mine so I can get rid of the dreaded windows lol
[03:21] <farous> is there a reason i can not send a pm to the boot ?
[03:21] <Supremacy> firefox fails on automatic, but used synaptec to install the packages
[03:21] <CalcMaster86>  blueeagle: nope, it did some stuff though, all error flags when it was finding the eth's... ifconfig just shows the lo
[03:21] <Drakkon> its driving me batty
[03:21] <shawn> so from rescue I mounted the drive I just installed
[03:21] <Supremacy> tried firefox's manual, and not even that worked
[03:21] <shawn> and I go in /etc and see no X11
[03:22] <mr_daemon> Hey is it me or 1) /etc/init.d/nfsmount.sh is gone 2) network mounts in fstab are not being obeyed to?
[03:22] <BlueEagle> calcmaster86: Hmm..
[03:22] <Supremacy> here's an example site: http://www.corwin.ca/gridlock/
[03:22] <farous> !nfs > farous
[03:22] <jrib> Supremacy: 'apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree | grep -i Installed'  <-- what does that say if you put it in a terminal?
[03:22] <nrdb> redblades: i think the location of the home direcitory is in /etc/passwd
[03:22] <BlueEagle> calcmaster86: lspci|grep Ethernet
[03:22] <BlueEagle> calcmaster86: what does that line read?
[03:22] <Boj> So am I right in saying that if you have a AMD64 processor you can't have Flash?
[03:22] <CalcMaster86>  nothing
[03:23] <nrdb> redblades: you could also have two different login names.
[03:23] <riddlebox> dibblego, do you happen to know the name of the plugin?
[03:23] <zane> has anyone had these installation problems? I try to install ubuntu but it says that it can't mount the cd rom drive after asking me for my language, keyboard and country info
[03:23] <CalcMaster86>  blueeagle: it just returns me back to the prompt... didn't do anything
[03:23] <dibblego> riddlebox, no idea, google probably does
[03:23] <bsdfox> Boj: you can install a 32-bit firefox to get flash support
[03:23] <BlueEagle> Oh, really?
[03:23] <BlueEagle> calcmaster86: lspci
[03:23] <blabit> how can i play windows media files in firefox?
[03:23] <mr_daemon> Why are NFS shares not mounted at boot regardless of what you do?
[03:23] <BlueEagle> calcmaster86: and look for something that looks like your network card in the list there.
[03:23] <blabit> mpg, avi's and such?
[03:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !restricted
[03:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:23] <Supremacy> Installed: 7.0.63.3ubuntu3
[03:24] <BlueEagle> calcmaster86: Please do not paste all the lines in here.
[03:24] <Supremacy> says that
[03:24] <redblades> nrdb, no I don't wnat, don't have two login names.
[03:24] <Supremacy> is that not the current one?
[03:24] <jrib> Supremacy: yes, that is correct.  Are you running ubuntu Dapper?
[03:24] <Supremacy> yes
[03:24] <Drakkon> mr daemon you need a emulator ...i think lol I just need help on installing wine
[03:24] <Supremacy> latest ubuntu
[03:24] <Supremacy> 6.02
[03:24] <secleinteer> does any1 know the difference between "firefox" and "firefox %u" in a launcher command?
[03:24] <Supremacy> lts
[03:24] <Jack_Sparrow> 6.06
[03:24] <CalcMaster86>  blueeagle: i couldn't paste all the lines in anyways, since i'm working on a different computer... pci bridge, isa bridge, ide interface, usb cont, host bridge, multimedia audio, raid, modem, vga cont... that's it
[03:24] <Supremacy> oh, yeah.. my bad
[03:25] <Drakkon> i have 6.06 LTS supremacy
[03:25] <Supremacy> should have looked at the free disc
[03:25] <jrib> Supremacy:  what does this say: 'ls -l /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/*flash*'
[03:25] <Boj> "At present, there is no non-free flash implementation available for 64-bit processors (or Mac) because the manufacturer does not support them." Which manufacturer is that?
[03:25] <BlueEagle> calcmaster86: Just to be on the safe side here: Are you in the installtion environment or have you got ubuntu installed?
[03:25] <Supremacy> it's 6.05 lts
[03:25] <mr_daemon> Drakkon: Uh.. no, NFS as in, the file sharing protocol, not the game
[03:25] <Supremacy> er, 6.06
[03:25] <CalcMaster86>  blueeagle: ubuntu is installed
[03:25] <farous> anyone know how to mount a sshfs
[03:26] <Supremacy> ls: /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/*flash*: No such file or directory
[03:26] <Supremacy> what do i need to do to fix that? obviously that's wrong
[03:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !samba
[03:26] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:26] <BlueEagle> calcmaster86: I see.
[03:26] <BlueEagle> calcmaster86: an no ethernet controller listed by lspci?
[03:26] <BlueEagle> :/
[03:26] <CalcMaster86>  blueagle: nope
[03:26] <jrib> Supremacy: k, the files didn't get install then.  you should have /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/flashplayer.xpt and /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so.  Run 'sudo update-flashplugin' and see if it completes succesffuly
[03:26] <farous> Jack_Sparrow: if it is for me i need to auto mount a linux sshfs
[03:27] <CalcMaster86>  blueeagle: i'm pretty sure the pci slot is working, the card's lights light up
[03:27] <BlueEagle> calcmaster86: It is a PCI card right? Not the old ISA standard?
[03:27] <Jack_Sparrow> farous: No idea...
[03:27] <BlueEagle> calcmaster86: :)
[03:27] <farous> Jack_Sparrow: thanx for trying to help :)
[03:27] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[03:28] <smacky> i love putty
[03:28] <smacky> lol
[03:28] <Jack_Sparrow> farous: I use diskmounter for my windows drives..
[03:28] <Supremacy> doesn't seem to do anything
[03:28] <Supremacy> or maybe it did
[03:28] <CalcMaster86>  blueeagle: i'm not sure what ISA is, i don't think i've lived that long to know about it
[03:29] <secleinteer> does any1 know the difference between "firefox" and "firefox %u" in a launcher command?
[03:29] <Jack_Sparrow> CalcMaster86: DO you know what type of card or preferably the chipset it uses
[03:29] <gil> i need help with i need help setting up a network
[03:29] <Supremacy> ls -l /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/*flash*
[03:29] <Supremacy> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 44 2006-08-10 21:28 /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/flashplayer.xpt -> /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/flashplayer.xpt
[03:29] <CalcMaster86>  blueeagle: the box says it's a pci adapter
[03:29] <jrib> secleinteer: %u lets you drag links to the icon and they wil open
[03:29] <secleinteer> ok
[03:29] <secleinteer> thx
[03:29] <Ronz> hey, im not getting any sounds from flash....anyone have an idea?
[03:29] <gil> i got a shared folder that i am trying to share with a windows machine
[03:29] <tripppy> is anyone running a sunray client off ubuntu?
[03:29] <Jack_Sparrow> CalcMaster86: isa is original 8 bit card, followed by eisa then pci and agp and pci-e
[03:29] <Supremacy> yep, that worked
[03:29] <jrib> Supremacy: only one file?  Is the program still runnning?
[03:29] <CalcMaster86>  jack_sparrow: it's a dfe-550 tx made by d-link, i think it uses the sundance driver
[03:30] <gil> what is the login and password
[03:30] <Supremacy> ls -l /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/*flash*
[03:30] <Supremacy> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 44 2006-08-10 21:28 /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/flashplayer.xpt -> /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/flashplayer.xpt
[03:30] <mr_daemon> Anyone here running dapper can tell me if they have the file /etc/init.d/mountnfs.sh?
[03:30] <Supremacy> nah... i only did the first three lines
[03:30] <mr_daemon> It's not on my system...
[03:30] <Supremacy> looks to be two?
[03:31] <bcron> gil: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605&highlight=samba
[03:31] <Supremacy> flashplayer and libflashplayer
[03:31] <jrib> Supremacy: k, close all firefox windows, then start it up again and test flash
[03:31] <smacky> fishy
[03:31] <Supremacy> i did, gridders worked
[03:31] <jrib> Supremacy: k, great
[03:31] <fishy> I. Broke. Sudo. I can't access any devices in my computer - CD, USB flash drive, etc. except the partition Ubuntu is installed on. How do I go about fixing this?
[03:31] <fishy> smacky: What'd ya want?
[03:32] <jrib> fishy: how did you break it?  What errors do you get now?
[03:32] <racefire> Hi
[03:32] <fishy> jrib: I dunno how I did. Plugged my USB flash drive in one day. "Could not read blah blah - permission denied."
[03:32] <Supremacy> well, time to find another virus program, aegis virus scanner keeps wanting to do an update, despite doing one
[03:32] <fishy> Same with CD
[03:32] <racefire> I have a problem
[03:32] <CalcMaster86>  blueeagle: after googling ISA, i'm certain that the network card is a pci card
[03:32] <jrib> fishy: does 'sudo echo hi' return "hi"?
[03:33] <toddobryan> Hi all. I managed to install onto a machine using the alternative install CD. But now, when I boot from the hard drive, I get to the point where X should start and everything goes dead. The monitor goes black, and the keyboard is unusable. Even hitting Caps Lock or Num Lock fails to turn on the lights on the keyboard.
[03:33] <toddobryan> But I've made progress!!!
[03:33] <toddobryan> :-)
[03:33] <racefire> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=232219 is the page where you can read about my problem
[03:33] <jrib> !ask > racefire
[03:33] <racefire> Yes?
[03:33] <fishy> jrib: Yeah, it does
[03:33] <racefire> I don't understand you, jrib
[03:33] <jrib> fishy: what does the 'groups' command return?
[03:34] <jrib> racefire: I had ubotu send you a message, but you can ignore it now
[03:34] <mr_daemon> Anyone? Can anyone justcheck if /etc/init.d/mountnfs.sh is there?
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> CalcMaster86: The easy/cheap solution is to drop in a card from the !hardware list
[03:34] <Gun_Smoke> Is there anything I can run to "bench" test this system?
[03:34] <jrib> mr_daemon: it is here
[03:34] <fishy> jrib: "steven audio"
[03:34] <racefire> Huh? I didn't receive a message.
[03:34] <CalcMaster86>  !hardware
[03:34] <Boj> !Gnash
[03:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about Gnash - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:35] <mr_daemon> jrib: Dapper?
[03:35] <racefire> I don't think, anyway. I'm using gaim.
[03:35] <BlueEagle> calcmaster86: I'm sorry but I cannot see why your network card isn't listed in lspci
[03:35] <jrib> fishy: that's why you don't have access to a lot of stuff.  Here are the groups I am in, you may want to research them and see what they mean: adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip www-data src video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[03:35] <nba> gud morning room
[03:35] <CalcMaster86>  alright, thanks guys for your help
[03:35] <fishy> jrib: How do I get access to these groups?
[03:35] <Jack_Sparrow> CalcMaster86: Did you post your lspci to pastebin?
[03:35] <nba> need help pls
[03:36] <nba> how to use logitech webcam in ubuntu?
[03:36] <Jack_Sparrow> !cam
[03:36] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[03:36] <racefire> !help
[03:36] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[03:36] <CalcMaster86>  no, it's on a totally different computer... i could type out all the output of lspci in pastebin if you want
[03:36] <racefire> help!
[03:36] <jrib> fishy: adduser user_name group_name, will add user_name to the group group_name.  www-data you may not have, because that is for apache
[03:36] <toddobryan> So, can I stop the X Server from trying to run so that I can at least have command line access?
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> CalcMaster86: Come back when you have it... Id hate to have you do all that..
[03:37] <racefire> jrib, I didn't receive your message.
[03:37] <racefire> I still don't know what to do.
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Are you anywhere near the west US coast?
[03:37] <racefire> oops, i did.
[03:37] <racefire> Sorry.
[03:37] <jrib> racefire: my message was just telling you to go ahead and ask you question to the chat
[03:37] <racefire> I just read it. Sorry.
[03:37] <racefire> :-(
[03:38] <CalcMaster86>  jack sparrow: actually, you know what, my floppy drive is working on it... hang on... and i'm in utah
[03:38] <toddobryan> Boj: Have you tried installing Flash using Automatix?
[03:38] <Jack_Sparrow> toddobryan: Bad word bad work... Not Automatix...
[03:38] <jrib> fishy: so you know, the usermod command will let you add multiple groups at a time
[03:39] <Boj> toddobryan, no
[03:39] <Boj> I've been attempting to understand all this Gnash stuff
[03:39] <jrib> !flash > racefire
[03:39] <racefire> Thanks, jrib.
[03:39] <toddobryan> Jack_Sparrow: It does look rather unpolished, but it seemed to do what it was advertising. Should I be looking for anything scary?
[03:40] <fishy> jrib: Where can I find a list of these groups?
[03:40] <Jack_Sparrow> toddobryan: Every day we get people in here who have trashed their install.  It woks 95% of the time...
[03:40] <mr_daemon> Is anyone mounting NFS shares at boot here? At all?
[03:40] <Jack_Sparrow> works
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> toddobryan: Same as easyubuntu
[03:41] <mordof> why is the ubuntu dvd so much bigger than the ubuntu cd?
[03:41] <toddobryan> Jack_Sparrow: Ahhh. Thanks for letting me know that. I have a class full of high school students who will be installing Ubuntu at home soon. I'll tell them to stay away.
[03:41] <mordof> when there is only 1 cd
[03:41] <jrib> fishy: I gave you a list :P  I'm not sure where the default groups are documented
[03:41] <jordanau> Jack_Sparrow, it cooks japanese food too?
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> jordanau: as so ... yes it do..
[03:41] <toddobryan> That is, of course, if I can figure out how to get it working in my lab. :-)
[03:42] <fishy> jrib: Does that list give you access to USB flash drives?
[03:42] <toddobryan> So, everything goes dead. How can I stop the boot sequence before that all happens.
[03:42] <Jack_Sparrow> toddobryan: When they come here and we walk them through it they LEARN something in the process
[03:42] <jrib> fishy: yes, i believe plugdev is responsible for that
[03:42] <Boj> Have the ubuntu team though about getting a Nelson Mandella voice for Festival?
[03:42] <Evz> i cant install anything on Ubuntu
[03:42] <Evz> O don't know how
[03:42] <jordanau> Jack_Sparrow, yeah easy ubuntu was trouble for me, i did a reinstall on my system for other reasons and decided to do the short route, bad idea, took  a while to get java back up and running
[03:42] <fishy> jrib: Thanks.
[03:42] <Evz> Im tired of this
[03:42] <jrib> !synaptic > Evz
[03:42] <fishy> Things are working groovy now.
[03:43] <toddobryan> Jack_Sparrow: I meant stay away from Automatix. Not this chat room.
[03:43] <CalcMaster86>  jacksparrow: ok, pasted to pastebin
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> toddobryan: Give them a fish they eat for a day, teach them to fish they eat all their life
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> toddobryan: I know
[03:43] <jordanau> Evz, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> toddobryan: So did you install and where are you at with it..
[03:44] <toddobryan> And give them Windows and they give you stupid excuses about how their machine got a virus or crashed and they couldn't do their homework. :-)
[03:44] <mordof> question: i'm looking into downloading ubuntu for my laptop (acer aspire 5612WLMi) and i'm not sure why the dvd release is so much bigger than the cd release.. shouldn't there be like 3 or 4 cds?
[03:44] <jrib> fishy: np
[03:44] <fishy> that's all, ta
[03:44] <Evz> i think im gonna give up
[03:44] <Evz> I don't understand...
[03:44] <Evz> i gonna delete linux forever
[03:44] <jrib> mordof: the dvd just has more packages, so you don't have to download them if you want to install extra stuff
[03:44] <jordanau> Evz, what do you want to know specifically
[03:44] <racefire> Great! Flash is working great now!
[03:44] <smacky> how are u to learn if you give up ?
[03:45] <racefire> Thanks jrib! You're the best?
[03:45] <racefire> *You're the best!
[03:45] <toddobryan> Jack_Sparrow: I installed from the alt CD. That seems to have work. I can boot from the hard drive, but when X should start, everything goes dead. I can't even Ctrl+Alt+Fkey, because the keyboard no longer responds.
[03:45] <jrib> racefire: ha, np
[03:45] <toddobryan> Jack_Sparrow: And, before you ask, it's a PS2 keyboard.
[03:45] <Evz> first install gstreamer or xine. something that can let me hear my mp
[03:45] <Jack_Sparrow> toddobryan: and why the alt cd?
[03:45] <Evz> mp3
[03:45] <mordof> jrib, is there a part of the site that lists what packages are in the dvd?
[03:45] <jordanau> Evz, okay
[03:45] <toddobryan> Jack_Sparrow: Because the same thing happened with the install CD.
[03:45] <jrib> mordof: I don't know
[03:45] <dell500> anyone know anything about norton ghost? or some kind of pre-os bootup tool for backing up large amounts of data from HD to USB-HD?
[03:46] <Jack_Sparrow> toddobryan: Some people just see server and think it must be better..
[03:46] <jordanau> Evz, give me a sec here and i will assist you
[03:46] <Jack_Sparrow> toddobryan: So you do have a live cd std there?
[03:46] <toddobryan> Jack_Sparrow: People suggested I go ahead and install it, and then I'd have a shot at getting it to work.
[03:46] <CalcMaster86>  jack_sparrow: by the way, i did try using d=link's installation instructions... however, there were several files that it couldn't find in the default directory... i located some, there were files with the same name (but they looked different) in different places, and others, the files were missing
[03:46] <Jack_Sparrow> toddobryan: Is this a lappy or desktop?
[03:46] <Evz> ok..
[03:46] <RancidPickle> dell500 > acronis true image
[03:46] <toddobryan> Jack_Sparrow: Desktop. And I have both the Alt and Live CDs.
[03:47] <bsdfox> dell500: acronis migrateeasy is the best... you need to pull the drive outta the USB enclosure though
[03:47] <jordanau>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[03:47] <rdemanow> I need to configure GDM so that the xscreensaver daemon is launched when the user selects a WindowMaker session, but not when a Gnome session is selected. Where do I invoke xscreensaver to make this happen?
[03:47] <mordof> jrib, if i'm on an intel 64 bit dual core, do i just use the i386 version? it's the only one besides the amd64 one
[03:47] <Jack_Sparrow> CalcMaster86: compiling drivers is not as easy as they would have you believe...
[03:47] <RuarriS> does compiling from source code have any benefits over installing from a package?
[03:47] <dell500> bsdfox, well i don't have anymore SATA spots...
[03:47] <TheGame> anyone know how to set ctrl alt del to open system monitor
[03:47] <sproingie> RuarriS: only if you have to change something in the source
[03:47] <Jack_Sparrow> toddobryan: does the live cd boot to a menu start or install with other options?
[03:47] <toddobryan> RuarriS: Not unless you want to tweak something.
[03:47] <CalcMaster86>  jack_sparrow: yeah, especially when you don't know that much of c... i only know fortran
[03:47] <rsk> RuarriS: yes some, like building for your system, meaning faster.
[03:48] <jrib> mordof: if you want to use the 32bit version of ubuntu, then yes, the i386 version is what you want afaik
[03:48] <mordof> so then is there no intel 64 bit version?
[03:48] <Jack_Sparrow> CalcMaster86: $10 on a good linux card is money well spent.
[03:48] <sproingie> mordof: yes there is
[03:48] <CalcMaster86>  heh, alright
[03:48] <rdemanow> TheGame:  You can set your Xorg or XFree86 conf file to trap CtrlAltDel to execute whatever command you want
[03:48] <bsdfox> dell500, if you've got 2 you should be able to work it.
[03:48] <CalcMaster86>  !hardware
[03:48] <mordof> where can i download it? it's not on the website...
[03:48] <sproingie> !amd64
[03:48] <ubotu> AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[03:48] <mordof> i'm not on amd
[03:48] <mordof> i'm on intel
[03:48] <sproingie> same thing
[03:48] <toddobryan> Jack_Sparrow: It boots to the normal menu. And gets pretty far before it dies.
[03:48] <sproingie> you on an itanic?
[03:48] <RuarriS> well if i dont see an ubuntu package for a project, can I always compile from source?
[03:48] <Jack_Sparrow> What is up with the bot and the hardware link
[03:49] <rsk> itanic lol
[03:49] <dell500> bsdfox, that's the reason why i'm backing up... i have 2 spots for my sata raid0 setup, i need to back that up to my USB sata drive...
[03:49] <mordof> an itanic...
[03:49] <CalcMaster86>  jack_sparrow, is the hardware trigger suppose to work?
[03:49] <Jaykul> http://rafb.net/paste/results/AHO8yM50.html <-- help ... my drives are moving.
[03:49] <bsdfox> mordof, use AMD64.. it's the same
[03:49] <CalcMaster86>  ok, so you see it also
[03:49] <Jack_Sparrow> toddobryan: Ok, so one more question
[03:49] <sproingie> mordof: no itanium.  amd64 == emt64
[03:49] <bsdfox> non-itanium intels use AMD64
[03:49] <jrib> TheGame: or you can set it up using gconf-editor, if you want a quick walk through just join me in #ubuntu-classroom
[03:49] <sproingie> personally i stick with 32 bit on my desktop even though i have an amd64
[03:49] <Jack_Sparrow> toddobryan: DO you have the cmos/bios set to usb2 and do you have and usb devices plugged in?
[03:49] <mordof> i'm on the aspire 5612WMLi core duo
[03:49] <Jack_Sparrow> any
[03:49] <sproingie> it's still blazing fast and more stuff like flash works
[03:49] <bsdfox> dell500, ahh.. you can do it in knoppix
[03:49] <Jack_Sparrow> sproingie: goos choice
[03:50] <sproingie> 64 bit for servers is the way to go tho
[03:50] <dell500> bsdfox, knoppix?
[03:50] <toddobryan> Jack_Sparrow: I have no idea, and no, respectively.
[03:50] <bsdfox> as long as you install a 32-bit firefox you are in good shape with amd64 on the desktop
[03:50] <mordof> i have no idea of i'm on an itanium.. didn't even really know what those were
[03:50] <Jaykul> Does anyone know how my hda can become hdb during the bootup?
[03:50] <bsdfox> dell500, or ubuntu livecd.. whatever
[03:50] <toddobryan> Jack_Sparrow: I'm not sure it supports USB2. The mobo is from about 2000.
[03:50] <dell500> really?
[03:51] <sproingie> bsdfox: yeah but then you have to maintain this parallel 32-bit world
[03:51] <bsdfox> mordof, you aren't
[03:51] <mordof> alright
[03:51] <Jack_Sparrow> toddobryan: Check the bios and set to 1.1 for now... and here are some boot options to try at the grub menu after hitting F6 Grub Boot Options ide=nodma vga=normal nomce acpi=off pnpbios=off xdrvr=vesa xres=800x600 apm=off quiet not all at once..
[03:51] <mordof> amd64 it is then...
[03:51] <smacky> Jack_Sparrow when u get asec can u help me plz
[03:51] <bsdfox> sproingie, not at all
[03:51] <Boj> !festival
[03:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about festival - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:51] <sproingie> bsdfox: on ubuntu, pretty much
[03:51] <rdemanow> I need to configure GDM so that the xscreensaver daemon is launched when the user selects a WindowMaker session, but not when a Gnome session is selected. Where do I invoke xscreensaver to make this happen?
[03:51] <sproingie> bsdfox: unless multiarch apt became a reality and i didn't notice
[03:51] <Jack_Sparrow> smacky: Please define the problem for me while he does that
[03:51] <RuarriS> bsdfox: as i remember installing 32 bit firefox was hell if 64 bit firefox was already installed
[03:52] <bsdfox> it took me less than 5 minutes
[03:52] <RuarriS> but i'm a linux newb
[03:52] <sproingie> RuarriS: works fine.  you just use a chroot
[03:52] <kjm> !festival
[03:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about festival - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:52] <toddobryan> Jack_Sparrow: Thanks. I'll give those a try.
[03:52] <smacky> i get these errors Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[03:52] <kjm> !dpkg
[03:52] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[03:52] <Jack_Sparrow> smacky: the repos have been hammered
[03:53] <kjm> why?
[03:53] <smacky> hammed meaning ?
[03:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Ubuntu has become very popular
[03:53] <Jack_Sparrow> timeouts etc..
[03:53] <jbroome> The Sun is Bright
[03:53] <Jack_Sparrow> There was a bot info on it but I dont know the trigger..
[03:54] <bsdfox> haha
[03:54] <Jack_Sparrow> YOu can query the bot or keep trying
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> toddobryan: are you still here...
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> toddobryan: Also suggest you have the cd check itself for errors...
[03:56] <CalcMaster86>  ok jack_sparrow, i give up, off to buy a supported network card at best buy
[03:56] <Jack_Sparrow> People, it has been fun, but it has also been a long day.  Hope all your troubles are small ones..
[03:56] <Jack_Sparrow> CalcMaster86: Wish I had a better answer
[03:56] <rdemanow> any GDM configuration gurus out there?
[03:56] <CalcMaster86>  see you later jack, thanks for your help!
[03:56] <Jack_Sparrow> goodnight
[03:56] <illvarg-xgl> i have a problem with flash, i get no sound. what am i supposed to do?
[03:56] <jrib> !flash > illvarg-xgl
[03:57] <rdemanow> !GDM
[03:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about GDM - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:57] <jordanau> !upgrade
[03:57] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[03:57] <illvarg-xgl> !flash
[03:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:57] <thebishop> anyone playing World of Warcraft on Ubuntu?
[03:57] <rsk> thebishop: i am
[03:57] <dell500> how do you use the live cd to backup hard drives?
[03:58] <thebishop> rsk: it runs on my laptop, but its a bit slower than on windows
[03:58] <drt> hello
[03:58] <thebishop> rsk: you know any performance tweaks?
[03:58] <rsk> thebishop: nope
[03:58] <thebishop> rsk: what gpu you got?
[03:58] <rsk> fx 5700
[03:59] <RuarriS> thebishop: are you running it in wine? or how?
[03:59] <drt> what is the best solution for strong encryption on a hdd that can be decrypted and read/write in both windows and linux?
[03:59] <thebishop> RuarriS, yeah, the newest wine runs it pretty well
[03:59] <rsk> drt: truecrypt
[03:59] <Pyromaniak> Can someone please help me get my wine working again?
[03:59] <drt> truecrypt? i'll look into it
[03:59] <thebishop> RuarriS, but intel 915 chugs on it a bit, but if you have a better gpu its probably fine
[03:59] <drt> fat32 i would imagine would be what i want to format
[04:00] <wirelain> Pyromaniak: <sarcasm> It's hard to get the O2 out once wine has spoiled ...
[04:00] <RuarriS> thebishop, yea i got a x2 4200, but using the 32bit ubuntu
[04:00] <dasos> thebishop, if i wanted to get wow on ubuntu, would it be easier to install from the disk in wine, or to get a directory copy from a windows partition?
[04:00] <Pyromaniak> wirelain: lol =P
[04:00] <thebishop> dasos, i installed it fresh on ubuntu
[04:00] <Jaykul> I have a problem with harddrives .... at boot i mount hda1 on /  ... but after boot, that drive *moves* to hdb1  (you can see that here: http://rafb.net/paste/results/AHO8yM50.html)
[04:01] <bsdfox> dell500, you need an exact image? or just a copy of all the data
[04:01] <Pyromaniak> I'm not sure what happened.. but wine just "stopped" working... the server opens, and so does the windows application.. but I get no window to show for it
[04:01] <thebishop> dasos, add the Winehq repo to your sources.list, and get the newest version, and when the installer asks for the next disc, use "wine eject <cdrom letter here>"
[04:02] <dasos> thebishop, that's it? no special patching or anything?
[04:02] <_priest> are there any other quake style consoles for gtk besides tilda?
[04:02] <toddobryan> Jack_Sparrow: acpi=off did it.
[04:02] <_priest> and yeahconsole
[04:02] <toddobryan> Jack_Sparrow: What does that mean?
[04:03] <dasos> i'm still waiting for eve-online to work on vanilla wine
[04:03] <mytruehero> My sound doesn't seem to be working, even though it was working a minute ago. This is the second time that this has happened since I started using Ubuntu two days ago. The last time it happened, my sound suddenly came back after a restart. Any suggestions?
[04:03] <AngryElf> is there any way to tell via a command/software to see the wattage of a  PSU?
[04:04] <Pyromaniak> Anyone have experience with wine not displaying applications, yet still loading the processes?
[04:04] <bsdfox> AngryElf, no
[04:05] <toddobryan> Whoops. Jack_Sparrow left while I was trying his fixes...
[04:05] <braniff> what is the name of the linux program that converts iPod mangled filenames into song titles ??
[04:05] <AngryElf> didn't think os
[04:05] <toddobryan> Can anybody tell me what acpi=off does as a kernel option?
[04:05] <AJ004> how do I get 6.06-1
[04:05] <akutz> hi
[04:06] <AJ004> Seems like you cant directly update to 6.06-1?
[04:06] <mytruehero> braniff: More Cowbell, I think. Package name is simply "cowbell"
[04:06] <akutz> How does one go about setting up a mirror of the ubuntu updates?
[04:06] <akutz> I work for a University where we make as many servers private as possible, but they are RFC 1918 addresses, hence "campus" routed only
[04:06] <thebishop> dasos, there are patches, but the latest wine (0.9.18) seems to work out of the box
[04:07] <Hexidigital_> what do i need to enable on my server to allow RDC connections, w/o being logged in?
[04:07] <dasos> thebishop, cool, looks like i might give that a shot
[04:07] <braniff> mytruehero, thanks!
[04:07] <visik7> does kickstart works only for alternate cd ? or also for the live installer ?
[04:07] <Boj> Anyone know how you change the voices in Festival?
[04:07] <believer_> As Salaam e laikum (meaning: May Peace b on u) . http://www.submission.org/ ... Your source for Islam (submission) on the internet.
[04:07] <believer_> [112:0]  In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
[04:07] <believer_> [112:1]  Proclaim, "He is the One and only GOD.
[04:07] <believer_> [112:2]  "The Absolute GOD.
[04:07] <believer_> [112:3]  "Never did He beget. Nor was He begotten.
[04:07] <mytruehero> braniff: np. As a second day linux user, I'm glad I could be of some help to someone :)
[04:07] <believer_> [112:4]  "None equals Him."
[04:07] <thebishop> dasos,  like i said, it runs a bit slower than on windows, and i do some some graphical glitches, but that very well could be because its an intel card
[04:07] <believer_> http://download.al-islaam.com/audiovideo/anasheedram/al-islaam/html/samtan/lastbreath.swf
[04:08] <Hexidigital_> believer_: stop it
[04:08] <thebishop> dasos, other people have said ATI cards work very well with it
[04:08] <Pyromaniak> Ok, lets try this another way..... Anyone have experience getting Continuum (subspace) working under wine?
[04:08] <marshall__> hey guys
[04:08] <AngryElf> Hexidigital, i wasn't aware ubuntu used RDC
[04:08] <ushineko> who? mark shuttleworth?
[04:08] <AJ004> believer_ are you a terrorist?
[04:08] <marshall__> does anybody use gaim with their yahoo account?
[04:08] <Hexidigital_> AngryElf: well, KRDC, really
[04:08] <akutz> can anyone help me to figure out how to set up a cache server for ubuntu updates?
[04:08] <Hexidigital_> marshall__: i do
[04:08] <akutz> Ubuntu can act as a RDC client, but not server
[04:08] <akutz> it uses VNC
[04:08] <Boj> Anyone know how you change the voices in Festival?
[04:08] <akutz> there is a great topic in the forums on how to do what you want Hexi
[04:09] <akutz> let me find it for you
[04:09] <Hexidigital_> akutz: thx
[04:09] <_priest> akutz: you mean like nightly rsync against the repos?
[04:09] <dasos> thebishop, i'm still trying to figure out ubuntu, the sources.list file, can i update that in the synaptic frontend?
[04:09] <akutz> I suppose
[04:09] <_priest> akutz: are you wanting to cache all deb packages etc
[04:09] <drt> rsk: i cant make the drive fat32 cause i want full 100gb encryption fat only support 4gb for a single file
[04:09] <akutz> I want to be able to configure all my private ubuntu servers' source.list files to point to my local cache server that has the ubuntu updates
[04:09] <AngryElf> Hexidigital, rdesktop is the client for RDC, vncviewer is the client for VNC
[04:09] <_priest> akutz: ah
[04:10] <_priest> akutz: yea you probably want to look at rsync
[04:10] <marshall__> Hexidigital:  i just signed up for yahoo, i have a mail box and stuff. im trying to set up gaim for it but it says the account is locked and that i should login to yahoo
[04:10] <drt> so im not sure what to do.. maybe make ext2 and get drivers to read ext2 in windows
[04:10] <_priest> akutz: but i dont know how to turn debian into a package server so to speak
[04:10] <akutz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122402&highlight=vnc+server+logon
[04:10] <drt> i had bad experiences reading ntfs in linux.. corrupted a hdd after awhile
[04:10] <akutz> er, Hexi, that was the link
[04:10] <Hexidigital_> akutz: thank you very much :)
[04:10] <thebishop> dasos, i think you'll find this helpful: http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb
[04:10] <akutz> apparently it is a new doc, the old one did not support resumable sessions, but this one does
[04:11] <dasos> thebishop, sweet, thanks again =)
[04:13] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i get to know
[04:13] <MetaMorfoziS> how many rams REALLY used by all system funcs and my programs?
[04:13] <MetaMorfoziS> becasuse top dispalys irreal number
[04:13] <MetaMorfoziS> i think because it is counts the caching..
[04:14] <MetaMorfoziS> 512/500 used
[04:14] <MetaMorfoziS> it's unreal
[04:14] <torpedo|dog> I broke my panel. Does anybody know where the configuration files are for it?
[04:15] <mytruehero> My sound doesn't seem to be working, even though it was working a minute ago. This is the second time that this has happened since I started using Ubuntu two days ago. The last time it happened, my sound suddenly came back after a restart. Any suggestions?
[04:15] <N0xTrUm> hi
[04:16] <braniff> mytruehero, More Cowbell is the answer
[04:16] <kjm> mytruehero : get a volume knob that goes to 11
[04:16] <mytruehero> kjm: I need to hear _something_ before I start worrying about how I'm going to get that extra push over the cliff.
[04:17] <drt> What is the best encryption algorithm going right now
[04:17] <drt> AES-256?
[04:17] <ushineko> reverse rot-13
[04:17] <Hexidigital_> akutz::  thanks... that's what i was looking for :)
[04:17] <mytruehero> Seriously, though, any ideas? This is pretty frustrating. It seems to be system-wide.
[04:18] <kjm> mytruehero: you said that a restart helped the problem?  Has also muted your machine?  Do you have mute keymapped to something?  Is also crashing - > check /var/log
[04:18] <akutz> you're welcome
[04:18] <drt> Serpent-Twofish-AES
[04:18] <kjm> *also = alsa
[04:18] <kjm> <- *kjm = shit typer
[04:18] <drt> how bout something truecrypt supports.. best algorithm?
[04:18] <akutz> Does anyone know how to rsync down the ubuntu repos?
[04:19] <AJ004> if i have all the latest updates do i still need to download 6.06-1?
[04:19] <visik7> aes-256 is the best in term of rate speed/strongness
[04:19] <visik7> but isn't the best ever
[04:19] <drt> i heard sha1 was cracked
[04:19] <jjongsma> mytruehero: have you tried the obvious stuff like opening the volume control and making sure all of the channels are unmuted?  I've been bit by that before.
[04:19] <FantasticFoo> if i install the xubuntu package
[04:19] <drt> aes-256 is nice? what would u use?
[04:19] <FantasticFoo> and then remove it
[04:19] <akutz> > i heard sha1 was cracked: no
[04:19] <mytruehero> kjm: Mute isn't mapped, nor does my volume seem to be muted. Let me check /var/log (I only partially know what that means, but I'll give it a go!)
[04:19] <FantasticFoo> will everything be ok?
[04:19] <drbreen> FantasticFoo: yeah
[04:20] <believer_> wat do u mean terrorist?
[04:20] <drbreen> FantasticFoo: but its no use ?!
[04:20] <ProN00b> can i somehow show the speed of a file i am moving or copying ?
[04:20] <visik7> akutz: you can't
[04:20] <mytruehero> jjongsma: In the interest of not coming in here and making a fool of myself, that's the first thing I checked ;)
[04:20] <akutz> sha-1 was found to have a possible collision in 1 in 400 million as opposed to 1 in 2 billion
[04:20] <drbreen> ProN00b: no!!!
[04:20] <FantasticFoo> the xubuntu package is just a dummy package that commands the installation of other xfce packages right?
[04:20] <akutz> so for crypto geeks, yes
[04:20] <kjm> mytruehero -> all system log files are in /var/log - if you find crash reports etc. you'll see if alsa is going nutso in those log files
[04:20] <akutz> but for your use, no
[04:20] <FantasticFoo> drbreen: huh?
[04:20] <jjongsma> mytruehero:  just trying to make sure since I've made a fool of my self in just that manner before :)
[04:20] <visik7> akutz: apt isn't compiled with rsync support by default you can try to rebuild your apt enabling rsync (if it possible)
[04:21] <kjm> !apt
[04:21] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[04:21] <akutz> visik: that is not what I want to do
[04:21] <drbreen> FantasticFoo: for the xubuntu-desktop package being a metapackage, its dependencies stay on your system when you remove it
[04:21] <mytruehero> kjm: Typing 'more /var/log' yields '*** /var/log: directory ***' ...am I doing it wrong?
[04:21] <akutz> visik7: I want to set up a local apt repo that mirrors the ubuntu repo for my private servers
[04:21] <visik7> akutz: so use apt-proxy
[04:21] <FantasticFoo> drbreen: good, so everything will be peachy after it's gone right?
[04:21] <mytruehero> kjm: wait... directory... I get it
[04:21] <akutz> never heard of it
[04:22] <akutz> will look into it
[04:22] <akutz> thanks
[04:22] <drbreen> FantasticFoo: but why would you want _that_ ?
[04:22] <visik7> akutz: it download packages as soon as a client require it
[04:22] <visik7> akutz: and cache it
[04:22] <FantasticFoo> drbreen: i want to remove abiword so i can replace it with a version that i'm gonna compile on my own
[04:22] <visik7> akutz: for other machines
[04:22] <froguz> how can i avoid ubuntu to start gnome?
[04:22] <mytruehero> kjm: There are a bunch of log files in here, none with the string 'alsa' in the filename. Should I check one in particular?
[04:22] <FantasticFoo> drbreen: and since abiword is a xubuntu dependancy
[04:22] <akutz> nice
[04:22] <akutz> a sf proj too
[04:22] <visik7> akutz: and do some other things
[04:22] <FantasticFoo> drbreen: apt-get remove abiword commands the removal of xubuntu
[04:23] <akutz> visik7: thanks
[04:23] <froguz> i have made an aptitude dist-upgrade to my breezy, and now x server fails to load
[04:23] <mytruehero> kjm: There are a lot with 'evms-engine' in the name, for whatever that's worth
[04:23] <AJ004> ubuntu has new competition now from freespire
[04:23] <kjm> mytruehero - just a sec....I'm searching around for you........I'm not exactly right here.
[04:23] <drbreen> FantasicFoo: everything is allright
[04:23] <AJ004> both debian based
[04:23] <AJ004> competition is good :)
[04:23] <drbreen> FantasicFoo: you will have xubuntu after just w/o abiword
[04:23] <Yashiro> hiya
[04:23] <Yashiro> i have a question
[04:23] <Yashiro> why can't i log to cupsys web admin
[04:24] <visik7> AJ004: freespire is not even near what ubuntu is right now
[04:24] <drbreen> FantasicFoo: so no problems ;) may i ask why you want that ?
[04:24] <Yashiro> it asks for an user and passworg
[04:24] <kjm> check your volume controls to make sure nothing has been muted.
[04:24] <Yashiro> *password
[04:24] <Yashiro> i use my user and password and it doesn't work D:!
[04:24] <AJ004> visik7:  why do you say that?
[04:24] <magus_x> hey
[04:24] <AJ004> visik7:  i havent tried it yet
[04:24] <visik7> AJ004: first of all it hasn't the community behind ubuntu
[04:25] <magus_x> if my buffer device in k3b goes zero, the cd can be the problem? or the problem will be always the drive?
[04:25] <visik7> then the documentation (expecially for not so common task is lacking)
[04:25] <drbreen> freespire has an outdated kde version ?!
[04:25] <marshall__> can anybody help me set up gaim for my yahoo account?
[04:25] <AJ004> visik7 freespire 1.1 will be community based
[04:25] <visik7> nevermind is a waste of energy
[04:25] <visik7> ubuntu rules the world :)
[04:25] <AJ004> competition is good...
[04:26] <visik7> yes
[04:26] <AJ004> ubuntu is good
[04:26] <visik7> if competition is good
[04:26] <crueldog> Does someone knows how to ebable vnc access (vnc server) on my computer?
[04:26] <magus_x> if my buffer device in k3b goes zero, the cd can be the problem? or the problem will be always the drive?
[04:26] <crueldog> enable**
[04:26] <visik7> we have macosx and ehm an ancient operative system called windows
[04:26] <visik7> magus_x: have you dma set correctly ?
[04:26] <AJ004> might as well try it :P
[04:27] <magus_x> visik7, : i dont know, yesterday it worked fine
[04:27] <inflex-lap> Hi there - I recently did a package update on my Ubuntu box (6.06) and now my webcam isn't detected - but it's a SE401 cam (USB) :-(  I've even manually loaded the drivers with modprobe ... but still nothing :( :(
[04:27] <visik7> magus_x:  have u enough read buffer
[04:27] <inflex-lap> anyone else had such an issue?
[04:27] <visik7> magus_x: oh
[04:27] <magus_x> today it gaveme this error
[04:27] <visik7> magus_x: strange
[04:27] <magus_x> 2 times, i lost 2 cds
[04:27] <magus_x> it can be the CD?
[04:27] <inflex-lap> the worst thing is that lsusb doesn't even show the device anymore
[04:27] <visik7> inflex-lap: try change port
[04:27] <visik7> ?
[04:27] <inflex-lap> alas, I did
[04:28] <jordanau> well i think i just accidentally thrashed Evz's computer
[04:28] <visik7> mmm
[04:28] <inflex-lap> and rebooted...and power cycled
[04:28] <visik7> inflex-lap: dmesg tell something about new hardware ?
[04:28] <crueldog> how can i enable vnc server on my computer?!?
[04:28] <visik7> !vnc
[04:28] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[04:28] <visik7> !vnc > crueldog
[04:28] <marshall__> can anybody help me set up gaim for my yahoo account?
[04:28] <inflex-lap> [17271954.552000]  usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 7
[04:28] <inflex-lap> That's all that dmesg gives now
[04:28] <jordanau> i go thim doing a dist upgrade to dapper and he told me that the electricity was getting shut off at his house
[04:29] <c0rrupt> can you install a 64 bit os on vmware running on a 32 bit windows?
[04:29] <inflex-lap> before it used to come up and say it was binding with v4l etc etc and setting up my /dev/video interface
[04:29] <inflex-lap> now I don't have any /dev/video devices :(
[04:29] <KrisW> how do I install vmware on ubuntu (breezy)?
[04:30] <dasos> is there a configuration utility to adjust booting options? i think grub is the bootloader
[04:30] <geokok> hi. any idea when latest ati drivers gonna hit the repos?
[04:30] <visik7> dasos: to do what ?
[04:30] <visik7> geokok: I don't think so
[04:30] <geokok> why not?
[04:30] <visik7> geokok: policy
[04:30] <dasos> visik7, i dunno, cosmetic changes like turn the wait time down and to rearrange the order of things
[04:31] <geokok> but they already give the previous ones....
[04:31] <geokok> in restricted modules that is of course
[04:31] <KrisW> bah, someone needs to make a linux distro where you don't have to compile ANYTHING! o.O
[04:31] <visik7> oh
[04:31] <Montag__> geokok: Check http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide for info on how to install the latest version yourself.
[04:32] <ushineko> why would you want the latest ati drivers? they seem to get worse as time goes on...
[04:32] <visik7> dasos: sudoedit /boot/grub/menu.lst (I can't think of anything better)
[04:32] <dasos> visik7, i'll check it out, thanks for pointing me in a direction at least
[04:32] <shawn> ok I am sure now that no /etc/X11 exists on my fresh dapper server install
[04:32] <KrisW> can anyone help me install vmware on my ubuntu computer? It says I need to reinstall GCC before it'll let me install it and I don't know how to do that
[04:33] <shawn> but still my monitor setting is screwed up
[04:33] <visik7> dasos: pay attention modifing it
[04:33] <geokok> Well I was hoping they were better than the ones I got but since they work I dont want to risk breaking my laptop setup
[04:33] <andrew_> ok my cd drive says it cannot mount because there is no
[04:33] <andrew_> mount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only
[04:33] <andrew_> mount: /dev/hdc already mounted or /media/cdrom0 busy
[04:33] <andrew_> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hdc is already mounted on /media/cdrom0
[04:33] <andrew_> oops sorry
[04:33] <foo> We have a VoIP talk at our local LUG right now ... /join #sgvlug ... the stream URL is in the topic. Free, open source. :)
[04:33] <shawn> since I see it boot up and then the display settings go bad and the monitor can't handle the display mode once ubuntu really boots up
[04:33] <andrew_> well the question is still valid i guess
[04:33] <ProN00b> KrisW, i think vmware should suply packages for ubuntu
[04:33] <fredo> hola
[04:33] <inflex-lap> u can install vmware on most distros without issue
[04:34] <ushineko> shawn, what kind of ati card is it?
[04:34] <KrisW> ProN00b, well there is no vmware in apt
[04:34] <visik7> dasos: expecially the part about debian automagic change it only if you really know what you are doing otherwise your grub will not be updated on a kernel upgrade
[04:34] <inflex-lap> the hardest I had was instlaling it on slackware and that required making up fake /etc/init.d dirs
[04:34] <shawn> I dunno, but which file on disk would I look at if I don't have an /etc/X11 ?
[04:34] <cafuego> KrisW: Of course not, it's proprietary.
[04:34] <shawnr_> is there a way to minimize a running window from the terminal or with a script?
[04:34] <shawn> probably some older crappy ati
[04:34] <KrisW> inflex-lap, I tried and it says my kernel was unsupported, and to reinstall GCC
[04:34] <ProN00b> KrisW, of course not, vmware costs money, you need to ask vmware developers for packages for your distro
[04:34] <KrisW> so that it could compile
[04:34] <geokok> I wanted the new drivers cause same game has 100 fps difference from xp to linux
[04:34] <visik7> shawn: depending on your window manager
[04:34] <ushineko> I know that you will never get any x-series ati card to work out of the box, you have to install fglrx before even the boot screen will show up
[04:34] <ProN00b> KrisW, do you even have gcc and kernel sources installed ?
[04:35] <marshall__> can anybody help me set up gaim for my yahoo account?
[04:35] <shawn> I would be happy to tell it to stay in console mode
[04:35] <KrisW> ProN00b, GCC yes, kernel sources I have no idea
[04:35] <visik7> shawn: under kde there is dcop that can do this, under gnome should be dbus but isn't as easy as dcop to handle
[04:35] <andrew_> HELP my cd drive wont mount
[04:35] <KrisW> I'm not rebuilding my kernel though
[04:35] <Montag__> shawn: Check /etc/X11/xorg.conf to mess with which drivers X is using.
[04:35] <shawn> I don't even need X right now
[04:35] <KrisW> screw that
[04:35] <shawn> I don't have /etc/X11
[04:35] <visik7> shawnr_: : under kde there is dcop that can do this, under gnome should be dbus but isn't as easy as dcop to handle
[04:35] <ProN00b> KrisW, seriously, if you have bought vmware, tell them to friggin give you packages
[04:35] <visik7> same nick :)
[04:35] <cafuego> KrisW: You need 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)'
[04:36] <ushineko> (note: you don't need X11 for the ubuntu boot screen...problem appears to be that certain ati cards do *not* work with the vesa driver)
[04:36] <KrisW> I didn't buy it
[04:36] <shawnr_> thanks
[04:36] <KrisW> it's the free version
[04:36] <KrisW> they sent me over here to get GCC reinstalled
[04:36] <visik7> shitty ati carda
[04:36] <ProN00b> oi, can you gimme the url to that free version, KrisW ?
[04:36] <KrisW> yeah
[04:36] <cafuego> You don't need to reinstall gcc, you need the kernel headers for your running kernel.
[04:36] <ProN00b> KrisW, and do what cafuego says, install kernel sources
[04:36] <inflex-lap> okay, how do I get back my /dev/video files?
[04:37] <andrew_> nm i got it
[04:37] <KrisW> http://register.vmware.com/content/download.html
[04:37] <cafuego> ProN00b: Headers, not sources.
[04:37] <ushineko> visik7: indeed. I have a x700 pro. it's a piece of crap. no linux distro will work with it without fglrx...at least nvidia cards can fall back to vesa.
[04:37] <ProN00b> cafuego, sources contain headers ^^
[04:37] <eegore> OK does anyone have any questions?
[04:37] <holly> Are all the archive servers running raelly slowly again or something?
[04:37] <shawn> does dapper server install x11 by default?
[04:37] <mytruehero> I do, eegore :)
[04:37] <ushineko> which makes installing from live cd impossible...
[04:37] <magus_x> eegore, : i got one about k3b
[04:37] <KrisW> http://rafb.net/paste/results/Y45h0Q84.html
[04:37] <cafuego> ProN00b: They're also 20x larger and mostly unneeded.
[04:37] <eegore> shoot
[04:37] <visik7> ushineko: there is a semi open driver called radeon
[04:37] <mytruehero> kjm was looking into it for me, but I haven't heard from him in awhile
[04:37] <mytruehero> My sound doesn't seem to be working, even though it was working a minute ago. This is the second time that this has happened since I started using Ubuntu two days ago. The last time it happened, my sound suddenly came back after a restart.
[04:37] <Yashiro> i have a problem, i can't log on cupsys webadmin
[04:37] <visik7> ushineko: should work (sort of)
[04:37] <Yashiro> D:!
[04:37] <Yashiro> help
[04:38] <shawn> If it's really the ati card I'll happily go down the street and buy some non ati crappy video card
[04:38] <eegore> Use K3B all the time
[04:38] <Yashiro> it keeps asking for user and pass
[04:38] <shawn> if that's going to solve the problem
[04:38] <visik7> Yashiro: is the default on *buntu
[04:38] <eegore> magus_x: what do you have a problem with
[04:38] <Yashiro> :0
[04:38] <ushineko> visik7: didn't for me...what would happen was basically a total machine freeze when trying to start X
[04:38] <Yashiro> visik7: how can i fix it?
[04:38] <magus_x> if my buffer device in k3b goes zero, the cd can be the problem? or the problem will be always the drive?, because yesterday it worked fine, and now with a diferent cd, i got this problem, but i burned at a speed acceptable for the disk
[04:38] <KrisW> i'm a complete noob when it comes to anything about compiling, I have no clue what these headers or sources or whatever are except they have to do with compiling which I'm not going to do
[04:38] <KrisW> How do I replace my current GCC with an older version?
[04:39] <visik7> Yashiro: dunno why you want to use webadmin
[04:39] <Yashiro> visik7: when i go to localhost:631 it says, if is asked enter your user and pass or root and root pass
[04:39] <eegore> Is the device driver loading properly?
[04:39] <ushineko> bought a geforce 6500 from newegg from $39...problem solved :)
[04:39] <visik7> can't you just use the config panel ?
[04:39] <mc|amb> hi, could someone recommend a program to listen to podcasts?? thanks
[04:39] <Yashiro> i want to do it, 'cause hp-toolbox ask for it
[04:39] <ProN00b> KrisW, doing something like that really is not recommended
[04:39] <Yashiro> i have a multifunctuonal printer
[04:40] <KrisW> well that's what vmware is telling me to do :-/
[04:40] <Yashiro> *multifunctional
[04:40] <eegore> magus_x: Dis you go theough the initial configuaration
[04:40] <magus_x> i think yes because yesterday i burned a cd normally
[04:40] <satafterh> is there a substitut for shockwave player?
[04:40] <visik7> Yashiro: the panel do the same thing of the webapp
[04:40] <visik7> satafterh: no
[04:41] <Yashiro> no it does not D:!
[04:41] <eegore> magus_x: how old is the drive?
[04:41] <visik7> Yashiro: strange I can manage class and printer from the panel
[04:41] <satafterh> great :{
[04:41] <Yashiro> i have installed my printer with the ubuntu default printer installer
[04:41] <inflex-lap> GHARRRR
[04:41] <visik7> ok dunno for gnome I'm using kde right now
[04:41] <Yashiro> but hp-toolbox keep saying there's no device installed
[04:42] <Nexea> hello
[04:42] <Yashiro> also ubuntu printer dialog didn't offer me the driver for my printer and cupsys webadmin did :D
[04:42] <magus_x> eegore, : 1 year
[04:42] <Linuturk> 6.06.1 has been released?
[04:42] <rsk> yes
[04:42] <eegore> magus_x: good make>
[04:42] <Linuturk> will my system automatically update?
[04:43] <magus_x> ?
[04:43] <rsk> Linuturk: if you are already up to date, no.
[04:43] <ProN00b> KrisW, what vmware is free ?
[04:43] <eegore> Who made it
[04:43] <rsk> Linuturk: the update is mainaly an updated livecd.
[04:43] <magus_x> i just know yesterday it worked and today it destroyed 2 cds :(
[04:43] <ProN00b> KrisW, the player, isn't it ?
[04:43] <KrisW> no, the server version
[04:43] <Yashiro> i had problem writting to low quality cds
[04:43] <Linuturk> rsk, so the repos don't change, correct?
[04:43] <eegore> Is it a m ain name brand or an off brands
[04:43] <KrisW> http://register.vmware.com/content/download.html
[04:43] <Yashiro> now i buy good ones and they work fine :D
[04:43] <rsk> i belive so
[04:44] <digitalhav0c> WOW gaim is awsome!!!!
[04:44] <Yashiro> lol
[04:44] <babo> damn ... the webpage that I'm on goes right off the side of the page and it doesn't have any scroll bar. I can just make out the start of the google search box at the top ... ? what can I do ? ...
[04:44] <Yashiro> u can use ur google cat account with gaim :D
[04:45] <holly> I'm downloading updates at like 10k/s!  I've tried switching to uk.archive.ubuntu.com.  Is there any other mirror I can try?
[04:45] <ProN00b> KrisW, got any idea what that is ? http://www.vmware.com/download/server/open_source.html
[04:45] <KrisW> no clue
[04:45] <digitalhav0c> Yashiro
[04:45] <digitalhav0c> how
[04:45] <digitalhav0c> just in accounts/
[04:45] <eegore> magus_x: I have seen writers go bad in a year. My kid had one
[04:45] <digitalhav0c> ?
[04:46] <Nexea> quick question... i am new to linux.. i would like to know where exactly is / stored at
[04:46] <Nexea> i want to make all new files store on my new hard drive
[04:46] <Nexea> secondary hard drive
[04:46] <Yashiro> i read a faq long time ago
[04:46] <verbose> Nexea: on the device it's mounted on
[04:46] <Yashiro> but it worked, let me check
[04:46] <digitalhav0c> Nexea: in /
[04:46] <digitalhav0c> lol
[04:46] <digitalhav0c> na
[04:46] <Nexea> is there an easy way to switch it.. to move it to my new hard drive
[04:47] <digitalhav0c> Verobse
[04:47] <Nexea> easily
[04:47] <digitalhav0c> yeah
[04:47] <magus_x> eegore, : but the question is
[04:47] <magus_x> the problem can be the cd?
[04:47] <Yashiro> digitalhav0c: http://www.system7designs.com/blog/configure-gaim-for-googletalk/
[04:47] <verbose> Nexea: you can use tar, or dump and restore, or any other backup/recovery options
[04:47] <eegore> magus_x: open K3B and go to the configuration pull down menu in settings
[04:47] <magus_x> because i changed the mark, well, i dont know how i can say it in english, im using a "different" cd
[04:47] <digitalhav0c> thanks Yashiro
[04:48] <eegore> might be
[04:48] <magus_x> done
[04:48] <Nexea> oh ok
[04:48] <Nexea> thanks
[04:48] <eegore> I only use cds of know quality
[04:48] <Yashiro> how do i add my user to lpadmin?
[04:49] <eegore> look under devices
[04:49] <magus_x> ok, eegore , so the problem can be
[04:49] <magus_x> ops
[04:49] <magus_x> ok, im looking
[04:49] <eegore> everything look normal there?
[04:49] <magus_x> yup
[04:50] <magus_x> so i hope the problem is the cd
[04:50] <holly> When I try to update my package list, it works fine, but trying to download packages goes at a crawl.  What's going on?
[04:50] <eegore> do you have a high quality cd handy?>
[04:50] <magus_x> i wont buy maxell cds anymore
[04:50] <magus_x> not, only tomorrow i will =/
[04:50] <magus_x> *no
[04:50] <inflex-lap> surprise surprise... that did nothing :(
[04:50] <inflex-lap> okay, basically I've lost my /dev/video :(
[04:50] <magus_x> o.O
[04:50] <shawn> ok it's an SIS card not an ATI
[04:51] <eegore> Try a good quality disk , if that works throw the crappy ones out or sell them to another sucker at a garage sale
[04:51] <magus_x> lol
[04:51] <magus_x> ^^
[04:51] <magus_x> well, i will try it tomorrow
[04:51] <shawn> so let's say I have a dapper drake fresh install from the server cd, I don't see any /etc/X11 at all -- how do I fix any monitor settings issues?
[04:51] <magus_x> thanks for the help
[04:52] <shawn> I don' t even know if this installed X or not, but I don't see it
[04:52] <shawn> so I guess no
[04:52] <eegore> no worries mate
[04:52] <orbin> holly: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org  pastebin your /etx/apt/sources.list file
[04:52] <Dimensions> can any one help me in tcl script ?
[04:52] <orbin> holly: /etc/apt/sources.list ... not /etx
[04:52] <holly> orbin, I've changed it several times to different mirrors, it's set right. :)
[04:53] <orbin> holly: that was what i was going to suggest...using a mirror :)
[04:54] <marshall__> can anybody help me set up gaim for my yahoo account?
[04:54] <eegore> magus_x: K3B1.0 should soon be released
[04:54] <Dasnipa`> marshall__, whats so hard about it?
[04:54] <dmb> ok i feel like being nice
[04:54] <dmb> who needs help here?
[04:54] <magus_x> eegore, : great
[04:54] <marshall__> Dasnipa`:  i just signed up for yahoo today when my friend sent me an invitation email
[04:54] <magus_x> btw
[04:54] <magus_x> my version is
[04:54] <magus_x> 0.12.7
[04:54] <magus_x> this is old? o.O
[04:55] <dmb> version of what?
[04:55] <dasos> under "add/remove applications", what version of wine is listed?  i think i updated my repository but i can't tell
[04:55] <magus_x> K3B
[04:55] <marshall__> Dasnipa`:  then i went into giam, typed marshall_ent2 in the alias field and my password
[04:55] <Dasnipa`> marshall__, tools -> accounts -> add -> choose yahoo standard and enter info
[04:55] <el_isma> Hello! I need help bridging my eth cards. I tried the howto in the wiki but it didn't work. Also, I tried a few howtos for debian, no result... I already have installed bridge-utils. My network setup is a router/gateway, my machine (has eth0 and eth1) and my sister's machine (connected to mine, running WinXP). Anybody can help me?
[04:55] <Dasnipa`> alias is what you see your nick as not your account name
[04:55] <marshall__> Dasnipa`:  then it said it couldnt login because there is a lock on the account and i have to login to the yahoo site
[04:55] <installin> How can I find out why ubuntu hangs when mounting the root filesystem without the nodma line?  someone said it was a performance killer?
[04:56] <inflex> Do the devices like /dev/video get created when a videocam is detected... or should they be there all the time?
[04:56] <Dasnipa`> marshall__, you might have to authenticate the account did you get an email to complete registration?
[04:56] <dmb> installin: sure is a performance killer without any dma
[04:56] <tanlaan> Hey everyone, I've decided that I want to run a few mac programs. I am on an iMac G3, 350 mhz, 192mb ram, and 7 gigs. Which should I do, reformat my computer and make it dual boot with mac OS 9 and Ubuntu? Or should I reformat using Ubuntu for the entire hard drive and install mac-on-linux?
[04:56] <marshall__> Dasnipa`:  then i did that and it didnt seem like there was any kind of lock
[04:56] <dmb> what kind of hd are you using?
[04:56] <installin> so how do I find the source of the problem?
[04:56] <knapper> Where can I find the 'Main Menu' icon? (ubuntu logo)
[04:56] <installin> I'm using an SATA something...
[04:56] <Dasnipa`> marshall__, junk box?
[04:56] <Yashiro> # HP PSC 1400 series (HP PSC 1400 series USB #1)
[04:56] <Yashiro> #  HP PSC_1400_series (hp:/usb/PSC_1400_series?serial=BR5AT2H03J04BM)
[04:56] <marshall__> Dasnipa`:  yeah i authenticated it
[04:57] <Yashiro> wut printer do i choose to install?
[04:57] <marshall__> Dasnipa`:  or verified it
[04:57] <installin> 160 GB....lemme check on the brand
[04:57] <dmb> installin: hmm, what happens, do you get a kernel panic, where does it hang?
[04:57] <Dasnipa`> marshall__, i dunno seems like yours might be a tougher problem might ask the #gaim guys
[04:57] <Yashiro> what printer do i choose to install?
[04:57] <Yashiro> #  HP PSC_1400_series (hp:/usb/PSC_1400_series?serial=BR5AT2H03J04BM)
[04:57] <Yashiro> # HP PSC 1400 series (HP PSC 1400 series USB #1)
[04:57] <Yashiro> ??
[04:57] <marshall__> Dasnipa`:  are they on freenode?
[04:57] <earthsound> is there a rule of thumb for partitioning sizes for /, /swap, /home, etc., in Ubuntu?
[04:58] <Dasnipa`> marshall__, yes
[04:58] <piratepenguin> is there a graphical way in Ubuntu to make my home directory non-world-readable?
[04:58] <piratepenguin> (without using the File manager)
[04:58] <Dasnipa`> piratepenguin, yes, CHMOD
[04:58] <lufis> What's the best, audiophile-approved CD ripper? I've heard good things about cdparanoia but it hasn't been updated in quite some time. Soundjuicer works, but it's lacking in a lot of areas.
[04:58] <installin> actually, no the boot volume for my linux is a seagate 80 gb IDE hd
[04:58] <el_isma> earthsound I wouldn't recommend more than 300Mb for Swap
[04:58] <piratepenguin> Dasnipa`: I know that, but others don't..
[04:58] <installin> i dont even know what dma is...lol
[04:58] <Yashiro> i have 512 MB ram and almost the same on swap
[04:58] <installin> <- linux newb
[04:59] <marshall__> Dasnipa`:  thanks
[04:59] <lufis> el_isma: Really? I made /swap a whole gig. Is that not good?>
[04:59] <jrojas> hi.. what is the ubuntu "spanish" channel ?
[04:59] <el_isma> earthsound: a partition for /home is up to you, I don't have a partition for it, but some people like it best
[04:59] <Yashiro> ubuntu-es
[04:59] <earthsound> el_isma: it's been a while since I've installed a linux distro...but for some reason I remember making the swap about twice the size of the RAM. is that no longer a valid measure?
[04:59] <Dasnipa`> lufis, kaudiokreator... it can rip to FLAC and such as well
[04:59] <Yashiro> jrojas: anda al canal ubuntu-es
[04:59] <Dasnipa`> lufis, creator* sorry
[04:59] <tenzing_> what should i install on ubuntu to play mp3 and avi movies
[05:00] <lufis> Dasnipa`: Well, yes, but does it use its own backend?
[05:00] <jrojas> thanks yashiro.. how can i change my channel ? :S (n00b)
[05:00] <el_isma> earthsound: If you've got 64Mb RAM that's only 128Mb Swap... But if you have a gig ram, you *don't* need swap
[05:00] <KrisW> ok screw it, dapper here I come
[05:00] <el_isma> earthsound: I actually run my pc without swap..
[05:00] <knowwho> hey, should i "PREMPT" or not? what's the diff?
[05:00] <earthsound> what is the default size of an Ubuntu install?
[05:00] <Yashiro> jrojas: use /join #ubuntu-es
[05:00] <earthsound> el_isma: that's good to know. this particular machine has 1GB RAM
[05:00] <jrojas> Tnks again Yashiro
[05:00] <el_isma> lufis: It isn't bad, until linux decides to use it! I assure you you don't want to be on a machine that swaps that much
[05:01] <lufis> el_isma: Ha, ah, I see.
[05:01] <el_isma> earthsound: You can run quite a bit on 1 gig. I run KDE+Vmware(256Mb Ram) + Azureus (java) and still got 500mb free
[05:01] <SeanTater> el_isma: lufis: seen /proc/sys/vm/swapiness ?
[05:01] <installin> ok...so what exactly does nodma DO then?
[05:01] <earthsound> el_isma: if I do some heavy image manipulation or video editing, I will need some swap space, though
[05:01] <rcmiv> anyone know howto synergy breezy (server) to dapper (client) ie 1.2 to 1.3 compatibility?
[05:01] <el_isma> SeanTater: yup
[05:01] <ripper> anyone installed fluxbox on ubuntu without breaking it?
[05:02] <SeanTater> el_isma: okay
[05:02] <lufis> SeanTater: I don't even know what that is :P
[05:02] <phenez> ripper, lol yeah
[05:02] <farous> ripper: breaking what
[05:02] <SeanTater> lufis: it adjusts how swappy your kernel is
[05:02] <ripper> all the nice autoupdate features, and autodetection of usb devices
[05:02] <lufis> SeanTater: Ah. Should I change it?
[05:02] <el_isma> earthsound: Maybe... But, as I said, too much swap will *kill* your perfomance
[05:02] <farous> ripper: have it installed here for ages no hastle at all
[05:02] <ripper> or is that metacity/gnome only
[05:02] <SeanTater> lufis: only if you do not enjoy your current experience
[05:02] <rcmiv> can't seem to compile synergy 1.3. on breezy
[05:02] <phenez> ripper, it is applications used within gnome
[05:02] <el_isma> earthsound: remember that swap is "false ram"
[05:02] <aSt3raL> hello
[05:03] <shawnr_> anyone have any tips on speeding up ubuntu dapper (gnome)... other than stopping services?
[05:03] <ripper> well most of that shit is just frontends for a terminal based app correct?
[05:03] <el_isma> SeanTater: I actually don't have a swap partition :)
[05:03] <earthsound> el_isma: yes, but it won't be used unless the RAM isn't available, right?
[05:03] <phenez> ripper, heh, why do you want to use fluxbox if you want 'nice' autoupdate and autodetection of usb?
[05:03] <rcmiv> s'poze I could retro dapper to synergy 1.2
[05:03] <rcmiv> ...
[05:03] <SeanTater> el_isma: you can make a swap file
[05:03] <ripper> im asking for a friend of mine
[05:03] <phenez> ripper, yeah
[05:03] <ripper> he was wanting to know
[05:03] <el_isma> earthsound: Depends on swappiness, but in general, it won't.
[05:03] <ripper> his computer only has 128mb sdram in ti
[05:03] <SeanTater> el_isma: it's supposively a little bit less efficient
[05:04] <ripper> it*
[05:04] <ripper> and ubuntu dont wanna run too fast
[05:04] <phenez> ripper, anyway, you can do all that from the terminal if you want, or install the apps from gnome/kde that you want
[05:04] <Yashiro_Nanakase> i have a problem with stepmania, it crashes 'cause it says that the audio device is in use
[05:04] <SeanTater> ripper: extra ram would do well, bu do you have swap?
[05:04] <lufis> SeanTater: Actually, it lags quite a bit. I have 384 MB of memory and a gig of swap and I notice Xorg slows down a LOT if i'm running anything more than gaim and rhythmbox... the mouse will lag on the screen and I end up clicking on things i don't want to
[05:04] <rob__> Cool. A room for Ubuntu!
[05:04] <ripper> yes he has a swap
[05:04] <installin> How can I find out why ubuntu hangs when mounting the root filesystem without the nodma line?
[05:04] <phenez> ripper, just if you are switching to fluxbox to save resources, it's silly to add all the crap back again
[05:04] <secleinteer> hey, how can install x11 cursor themes?
[05:04] <dell500> isn't there a backup DVD/CD with a bunch of programs that backup large quanities of data from HD's to and from?
[05:04] <el_isma> SeanTater: I think I read something about that somewhere... For now I haven't had the need of swap (500Mb free, on what I consider heavy use...)
[05:05] <SeanTater> lufis: try adjusting it and see if it gets better: you can do it the following way, if typed in a terminal.)
[05:05] <installin> secleinteer:  isnt it standard with the new version?
[05:05] <ripper> i've been wondering, isnt there a way i can display how much physical ram and the processor speed in the terminal?
[05:05] <eegore> THe one thing theat irks me with K3B at the moment is one of the packages is no longer available for it
[05:05] <secleinteer> standard?
[05:05] <verbose> secleinteer: sudo apt-get install gcursor i believe
[05:05] <earthsound> el_isma: sounds good. another question that I didn't see in the wiki: is there a problem w/ large SATA hd? (250GB)
[05:05] <el_isma> ripper: yes there is... can't remember it though :S
[05:05] <eegore> time for work, later all.
[05:05] <ripper> dern
[05:05] <verbose> earthsound: i'm running a 250GB sata drive on ubuntu
[05:05] <earthsound> it will be the 2nd HD after an 80GB IDE HD
[05:05] <secleinteer> verbose: if i downloaded an x11 theme from gnome-look, how do i install that?
[05:05] <SeanTater> lufis: sudo 'echo aNumberBetween1and100 | cat >/proc/sys/vm/swappiness'
[05:06] <earthsound> verbose: good to hear
[05:06] <el_isma> earthsound: I don't know... It shouldn't be... I'm running a 160Gb SATA (boot from there, too)
[05:06] <knowwho> ripper: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[05:06] <ripper> i got a 160gb seagate that i have to return :(
[05:06] <dagrump> anyone every ran into a n .asx audio stream, & if so which plugin is needed?
[05:06] <phenez> ripper, lot's of ways ...look at dmesg
[05:06] <ripper> yeah i knew i could do dmesg | less
[05:06] <phenez> ripper, look in your /proc directory
[05:06] <brencon> what python  IDEs do folks around here like? I'm looking at this SPE thing. http://www.stani.be/python/spe/blog/
[05:06] <lufis> SeanTater: Great, thanks
[05:07] <installin> How can I find out why ubuntu hangs when mounting the root filesystem without the nodma line?
[05:07] <el_isma> brencon: haven't found an IDE I like... I just use IDLE :P
[05:07] <el_isma> brencon: Most people swear by Emacs
[05:07] <earthsound> what's the current state of writing to NTFS in linux, now?
[05:07] <phenez> ripper, you can also check out 'systat'
[05:07] <SeanTater> humph
[05:07] <rob__> Why can't I get Windows computers to get my shared files in Ubuntu?
[05:07] <SeanTater> lufis, that probably won;t work, just realized..
[05:08] <ripper> ubuntu uses samba to share files
[05:08] <SeanTater> too late now
[05:08] <el_isma> earthsound: I'm using ntfs-3g. Works quite well. Supposedly it's beta software, so if you REALLY care about your files, you better not use it. But I been using it for a week or two now, It works great.
[05:08] <rob__> I did that.
[05:08] <ripper> atleast by default
[05:08] <rob__> But the password doesn't let me in anyway.
[05:08] <knowwho> !preempt
[05:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about preempt - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:08] <dr_willis_> rob__,  you need to set your users smb passwprds with 'smbpasswd -a username'
[05:08] <installin> !nodma
[05:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about nodma - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:08] <el_isma> earthsound: Had to do a chkdsk on windows one time, but only for a silly error
[05:08] <aSt3raL> hey
[05:09] <dr_willis_> rob__,  with 'sudo smbpasswd -a username'
[05:09] <aSt3raL> whats up with automatrix?
[05:09] <installin> !ide=nodma
[05:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about ide=nodma - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:09] <aSt3raL> is it any good?
[05:09] <rob__> So I have to create a seperate one?
[05:09] <earthsound> el_isma: I can't remember what I was using a year ago (it, too, came with warnings :) ), but the shared NTFS partition will contain mostly media files (images, video, some text, etc.)
[05:09] <dr_willis_> aSt3raL,  DONT use it. :P
[05:09] <dr_willis_> rob__,  the default setup is to not have any samba passwords set up.
[05:09] <el_isma> earthsound: ntfs-3g is quite new.
[05:09] <el_isma> earthsound: allow read-write
[05:09] <installin> How can I find out why ubuntu hangs when mounting the root filesystem without the nodma line?
[05:09] <ripper> heh
[05:09] <ripper> SwapTotal:      361420 kB
[05:09] <aSt3raL> why not?
[05:09] <ripper> SwapFree:       271688 kB
[05:09] <EstebanI> I'm trying to install Ubuntu and it freeze during installation! on "Loading hardware drivers". Help!
[05:09] <ripper> wow
[05:09] <dr_willis_> rob__,  also you may need to edit the samba config files to enable writeable home shares.
[05:09] <el_isma> earthsound: I can look up the deb. rep, if you want
[05:09] <rob__> I'll try to create one then.
[05:10] <ripper> he's got a 1.7ghz with 128mb sdram
[05:10] <ripper> not much but it runs ubuntu rather slowly
[05:10] <Stickittotheman> could someone help me with CSS running through WINE?
[05:10] <aSt3raL> dont use it is pretty drastic
[05:10] <dr_willis_> aSt3raL,  its best to learn to isntall the stuff manually.. and MUCH safer
[05:10] <phenez> ripper, ugh, more ram, the rest is cool
[05:10] <aSt3raL> why do you say that?
[05:10] <rob__> But I don't think it says user name/password
[05:10] <Stickittotheman> it doesn't launch the game
[05:10] <aSt3raL> oh
[05:10] <ripper> phenez yeah
[05:10] <dr_willis_> aSt3raL,  its can and has been known to Totally mess up ststems
[05:10] <shawn> does anyone know if the default dapper server disk install installs X or not?
[05:10] <aSt3raL> yeah i know how to do that
[05:10] <el_isma> Stickittotheman: Good luck... I couldn't run CS :'(
[05:10] <dr_willis_> shawn server install should not.
[05:10] <EstebanI> I'm trying to install Ubuntu and it freeze during installation! on "Loading hardware drivers". Help!
[05:10] <installin> shawn - i dont think it does - i tried to- didnt work.
[05:10] <selfharm> whats the easiset way to get latest updates to get to LTS ?
[05:11] <Stickittotheman> el_isma: thats it... im going back to windows
[05:11] <Stickittotheman> its a sad day....
[05:11] <ripper> sh: model: command not found
[05:11] <ripper> Usage: grep [OPTION] ... PATTERN [FILE] ...
[05:11] <ripper> Try `grep --help' for more information.
[05:11] <phenez> ripper, although i have ubuntu with fluxbox running on a p2 450 with 128 meg of ram, and it does a fine job
[05:11] <aSt3raL> is there any cool new apps out?
[05:11] <ripper> model		: 7
[05:11] <ripper> model name	: AMD Duron(tm)
[05:11] <EstebanI> I'm trying to install Ubuntu and it freezes during installation! on "Loading hardware drivers". Help!
[05:11] <el_isma> Stickittotheman: Windows games on linux generally don't run too well... At least, not for me
[05:11] <installin> heeeeeeeeeeeeeelp
[05:11] <installin> lol
[05:11] <earthsound> has anyone here used Instlux for Ubuntu to install from within winblows?
[05:11] <phenez> ripper, just don't have any unneeded services etc running
[05:11] <ripper> such as?
[05:12] <ripper> cause this is a default install....you remember seeing smacky in here earlier?
[05:12] <Stickittotheman> el_isma: well im going to go find that mirror for tinyxp
[05:12] <ripper> thats the guy im talking about
[05:12] <phenez> ripper, anything i don't need
[05:12] <ripper> with the speed issues
[05:12] <nbjayme> hello, i am having a problem with my sound on ASRock MotherBoard, AMD, Via8235..., help!
[05:12] <el_isma> Stickittotheman: what's that?
[05:12] <shawn> ok in a server with no X windows, where can I configure my monitor settings?
[05:12] <EstebanI> God damnit, does anyone fucking help around here? I can't even find a decent source for installation troubleshooting. And you people think this piece of crap is going to take over the world?
[05:12] <user1> wow the replys are fast tonight
[05:12] <shawn> I can use the monitor in rescue mode but not the default boot
[05:12] <ripper> phenez dont tell him that , he'll start rm'ing stuff like crazy (smacky)
[05:12] <el_isma> shawn: dpkg-reconfigure xorg
[05:12] <shawn> how can I tell what mode rescue mode is using vs default?
[05:12] <Stickittotheman> el_isma: its a stripped down version of windows that has a bunch of warez pre-installed, and you dont have to activate it :D
[05:12] <shawn> there is no xorg on the box
[05:13] <installin> How can I find out why ubuntu hangs when mounting the root filesystem without the nodma line?
[05:13] <Dimensions> i have installed my hp1400 series ... but its all in one how can i use it for scanning and copying ?
[05:13] <el_isma> shawn: oh, sorry!
[05:13] <jeff_> When I install a package for an open source program is the source code usually installed as well?
[05:13] <KrisW> how can I get rid of a package from apt that won't remove when I do sudo apt-get remove?
[05:13] <el_isma> shawn: you mean like setting up the framebuffer?
[05:13] <verbose> jeff_: not normally
[05:13] <shawn> so how do I pick the driver or monitor or whatever that rescue mode uses?
[05:14] <shawn> I'm happy with just text console
[05:14] <el_isma> KrisW: What error does it give?
[05:14] <phenez> ripper, ah thought it was for you
[05:14] <shawn> but now the default non-rescue boot has invalid display mode
[05:14] <installin> friggin a.
[05:14] <verbose> shawn: i believe it's a boot options like nofb or something
[05:14] <earthsound> EstebanI: is there an option to install in text mode? it could be a video driver problem. at least, w/ other distros, I've seen that same thing on ATI video cards
[05:14] <shawn> ah
[05:14] <phenez> ripper, get him to use sysv-rc-conf or something
[05:14] <verbose> shawn: google no frame buffer linu
[05:14] <verbose> x
[05:14] <verbose> :P
[05:14] <dr_willis> earthsound,  the alternative install cd has text mode installer.
[05:14] <jeff_> verbose: is there a standard way to find the accompanying source code or does it vary from program to program?
[05:14] <ripper> kk
[05:14] <EstebanI> earthsound: No.. there was a "Graphics safe" mode that I tried and it did the same thing.
[05:15] <installin> i cant find any documentation on this, either, btw
[05:15] <verbose> jeff_: it really varies, a lot of oss is on sf.net or freshmeat.net
[05:15] <verbose> but by no means all of it
[05:15] <el_isma> EstebanI: earthsound: the DVD has the text mode install. I think it's the "alternate" cd.
[05:15] <verbose> jeff_: google is the best way usually
[05:15] <jeff_> verbose: thanks
[05:15] <earthsound> EstebanI: I'd try that text mode install (but then again, I've never installed Ubuntu...just going by past experience w/ other distributions)
[05:15] <Dimensions> Rob r u from uk ?
[05:16] <el_isma> verbose: Doesn't "deb-src" do something like that? (I don't know, never used it)
[05:16] <user1> has any one ever seen this error before? Unknown id: apt-get
[05:16] <el_isma> Hello! I need help bridging my eth cards. I tried the howto in the wiki but it didn't work. Also, I tried a few howtos for debian, no result... I already have installed bridge-utils. My network setup is a router/gateway, my machine (has eth0 and eth1) and my sister's machine (connected to mine, running WinXP). Anybody can help me?
[05:16] <KrisW> ok that time it removed
[05:16] <KrisW> I just had to install it again first
[05:17] <nodma_why> How can I find out why ubuntu hangs when mounting the root filesystem without the nodma line?
[05:17] <KrisW> ok here we go, upgrading to dapper, I hope nothing gets broken >.<
[05:18] <nodma_why> ARG!
[05:18] <user1> this is the second time apt has given me trouble
[05:18] <el_isma> nodma_why: it's an old HD?
[05:18] <nachumk> hi, i'm a new ubuntu user and i am having some issues with sound, who would i speak to?
[05:18] <earthsound> nodma_why: do you have two IDE devices?
[05:19] <nodma_why> yes, I've got a DVD burner and an IDE hd, and a second os on an SATA
[05:19] <Gun_Smoke> Can adobe be had from the repos?
[05:19] <earthsound> nodma_why: if so, you should make sure the jumpers on the HD and CD are set to master and slave
[05:19] <earthsound> and not cable select
[05:19] <toxicfume> Okay I have already installed Ubuntu and GRUB is running nice and smooth. However, now I am going to partition to increae the linux partition from Windows XP...I assume after i finish this and restart, i have to reconfigure Grub because i modified the Linux partition (which is the boot partition)? What do I have to do in Grub?
[05:20] <earthsound> I've seen problems like you describe w/ CD drives set to cable select instead of manually set to slave
[05:20] <nodma_why> Ive got the the DVD set as master on ide 0 and the the HD set as slave on the other ide slot, and the SATA is...well...
[05:20] <Gun_Smoke> !grub > Gun_Smoke
[05:20] <starhawk> hi
[05:20] <user1> do a search for grub update
[05:20] <toxicfume> okay
[05:20] <KrisW> ok just to make sure I'm doing the right thing here, I edit /etc/apt/sources.list and replace all breezy with dapper then sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:20] <KrisW> right?
[05:21] <el_isma> KrisW yup
[05:21] <user1> I think that will square you away
[05:21] <nodma_why> me?
[05:21] <KrisW> ok just making sure all this stuff it's doing is right hehe
[05:21] <toxicfume> user1: seems to be a bit confusing, as all man pages seem to be :/
[05:21] <el_isma> toxicfume: agreed... man pages are confusing!
[05:21] <nodma_why> ive noticed alot of grammar errors in ubuntu as well
[05:22] <el_isma> nodma_why: in which language?
[05:22] <phenez> nodma_why, but not a lot of syntax errors
[05:22] <nodma_why> english
[05:22] <user1> I am still new myself if i give a wrong answer please let me know
[05:22] <user1> ya doc's suck in all open source
[05:22] <nodma_why> so is there a way to get around the nodma?  perhaps another setting I can use that will keep something like performance?
[05:23] <brinna> hey yaalll
[05:23] <brinna> hahahahahahaha
[05:23] <nachumk> can someone help me with a sound card issue with dapper 6.06?
[05:23] <user1> they assume you are an expert
[05:23] <brinna> poop
[05:23] <brinna>  weeeeeeeee
[05:23] <starhawk> dose any one know what flash player is doing have they quit supporting lunix sence 7.0
[05:23] <brinna> ho wdy
[05:23] <ripper> anyone tried the new 6.06.1
[05:23] <brinna> no way jose
[05:23] <user1> has any one ever seen this error before? Unknown id: apt-get
[05:23] <brinna> no way bum hay
[05:23] <ripper> user1 > interesting error
[05:24] <brinna> piptits
[05:24] <el_isma> starhawk: I read rumors that they're working on a new version for linux...
[05:24] <dmb> 6.06.1?
[05:24] <brinna> i have titees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:24] <el_isma> starhawk: but yeah, it sucks! :(
[05:24] <nachumk> where might i go for sound card support? anyone ..., please
[05:24] <nodma_why> so is there a way to get around the nodma?  perhaps another setting I can use that will keep something like performance?
[05:24] <starhawk> cool any idea when it will be released
[05:24] <el_isma> nachumk: Is it a weird soundcard? like, ISA or something?
[05:24] <poopface> hey der sexy mama
[05:24] <el_isma> nachumk: otherwise, Alsa shouldn't have trouble with it
[05:25] <poopface> i luv you jessica!!!
[05:25] <el_isma> nodma_why: I don't think so... DMA is a great difference
[05:25] <poopface> u r ma sweethert
[05:25] <user1> ripper: I even reinstalled apt but it did not help
[05:25] <poopface> whats dma?
[05:25] <el_isma> poopface: Direct Memory Access
[05:25] <nachumk> nope, ensoniq, part of a micron millenia system
[05:25] <poopface> why in the name of hell allmighty are u talking about stupid things
[05:25] <poopface> millenia sux
[05:25] <poopface> hi
[05:25] <poopface> h9i
[05:26] <Coruscant> ok i got this problem with all the command and conquers it needs a update it searches for it then says the system does not need the update! HELP!
[05:26] <poopface> hi
[05:26] <poopface> hi
[05:26] <poopface> hi
[05:26] <poopface> hi
[05:26] <poopface> hi
[05:26] <LoRez> Warning: `poopface' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[05:26] <dr_willis> !dma
[05:26] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hard disks run faster,  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[05:26] <dmb> poopface: you need to stop
[05:26] <nachumk> its a pci ensoniq es1371
[05:26] <nodma_why> el_isma:  it dont let me load if i dont disable it, I was told that the only way to get the performance up is to get around the nodma slot....so..I was trying to find another setting because i was also told that it might be a hd incompatability thing
[05:26] <nachumk> the weird thing is that it appears to work fine, but no sound comes out
[05:26] <poopface> im outie face head
[05:26] <poopface> S.E.X
[05:26] <nachumk> the same setup works fine under windows xp
[05:27] <el_isma> nachumk: Look for the volume settings :P
[05:27] <nachumk> i checked that
[05:27] <nachumk> used alsamixer and unmuted all channels, and brought them all up to full
[05:27] <nachumk> then called alsactl store
[05:27] <Coruscant> ok i got this problem with all the command and conquers it needs a update it searches for it then says the system does not need the update! HELP!
[05:27] <el_isma> nachumk: allright
[05:27] <nodma_why> is ubuntu ready for the public?  I'm starting to have doubts.
[05:27] <knowwho> is ext3 for linux only?
[05:28] <nachumk> its not the wires or speakers  b/c i boot in windows and its all fine
[05:28] <user1> dam I wish I could remember all of the acramims
[05:28] <el_isma> knowwho: yes, but there's a driver to access (rw) ext2  for windows
[05:28] <earthsound> bbl...need to reboot
[05:28] <nalpha> knowwho : i think's so
[05:28] <nachumk> i also see that when i call mpg321 from the command line it opens the /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p to play
[05:28] <dmb> is there a room to talk to the people running the release/mirror stuff for ubuntu?
[05:28] <user1> there is a linux sound card project
[05:28] <nachumk> should i speak to them?
[05:29] <nachumk> i can speak to the alsa support i guess
[05:29] <el_isma> nachumk: maybe the soundcard outputs a different out?.. I've seen complex windows drivers that can output sound to any channel
[05:29] <starhawk> any word on when it will be released
[05:29] <nachumk> there are 2 outputs on this soundcard, pcmC0D0p and pcmC0D1p
[05:29] <nachumk>  i tried both by using switches with mpg321, and i verified it by lsof
[05:29] <el_isma> nachumk: I'm talking about the physical outputs
[05:29] <PORDO> IS THERE any way in ubuntu to paste without formatting, so that text copied from, say a web page, gets pasted without changing font/size/etc?
[05:29] <nachumk> neither output
[05:29] <heinouskyle> hello everyone
[05:30] <el_isma> nachumk: what are you using to try the output?
[05:30] <nachumk> let me try what your saying
[05:30] <nodma_why> are there any nice RAD environments for linux?  Like VB or RealBasic?
[05:30] <el_isma> nachumk: i mean, which program?
[05:30] <nachumk> el_isma: what do you mean
[05:30] <nachumk> i have speakers hooked up, and i am trying to play an mp3
[05:30] <ripper> ipper@ubuntu:~$ telnet 24.122.189.251 54321
[05:30] <ripper> Trying 24.122.189.251...
[05:30] <ripper> Connected to 24.122.189.251.
[05:30] <ripper> Escape character is '^] '.
[05:30] <ripper> 220 Serv-U FTP Server v6.0 for WinSock ready...
[05:30] <ripper> id
[05:30] <el_isma> nachumk: which program? xmms?
[05:30] <ripper> 530 Not logged in.
[05:30] <nachumk> el_isma: its the speaker out output
[05:30] <user1> well one more try
[05:30] <nachumk> el_isma: mpg321
[05:30] <nodma_why> nachmuck it could be a driver thing
[05:30] <user1> has any one ever seen this error before? Unknown id: apt-get
[05:30] <tanlaan> when doing a dual boot with Ubuntu should the other OS be installed first?
[05:31] <jack|work> So I just dist-upgraded to dapper on this server.  Beastie has two network adapters, which had been assigned eth0 and eth1.  It has flipped them for some odd reason.  How can I fix this?
[05:31] <dasos> nodma_why, i dunno if eclipse is considered rad
[05:31] <heinouskyle> do you have mp3 playback support installed?
[05:31] <el_isma> nachumk: try xmms... shouldn't be different, but just because...
[05:31] <nachumk> nodma_why: what do you mean? all of the drivers are installed, and all of the modules are loaded
[05:31] <joshg> hello all
[05:31] <el_isma> tanlaan: if it's windows, yes
[05:31] <nalpha> anyone know why gftp is unstable???
[05:31] <nachumk> i am trying to avoid gnome for this b/c gnome defaults to esd, and i want to verify that the basic card is working
[05:31] <nachumk> so i am testing in the console
[05:31] <heinouskyle> mp3 support isn't included in the default installation of ubuntu
[05:31] <nodma_why> machumk- im not sure, but I wonder if its possible that all linux apps dont work on ubuntu that work on other systems.
[05:31] <nachumk> mpg321 plays mp3s
[05:32] <el_isma> nachumk: you can tell XMMS to output to ALSA directly
[05:32] <tanlaan> el_isma Its mac OS 9
[05:32] <Yashiro_Nanakase> i have a question
[05:32] <el_isma> tanlaan: no idea then
[05:32] <nachumk> i can try that, i'm gonna try to fiddle with the outputs, and i'll install xmms and play with that, i'll be back
[05:32] <el_isma> nachumk: good luck
[05:32] <Yashiro_Nanakase> why do stepmania say that audio device is busy?
[05:32] <jack|work> anyone?
[05:32] <tanlaan> el_isma: then Ill install it first anyways.
[05:33] <el_isma> Yashiro_Nanakase: maybe another program is using the audio device?
[05:33] <Yashiro_Nanakase> el_isma but i have no other program running
[05:33] <Yashiro_Nanakase> i tried rebooting and only starting stepmania
[05:33] <painkiler> hey
[05:33] <nodma_why> so is there a way to get around the nodma?  How do I locate the problem, and what is DMA?
[05:34] <dmb> are able to order new dapper livecds with 6.06.1?
[05:34] <el_isma> Yashiro_Nanakase: which output is it trying to use? See if you can get it to use esd or arts... I don't know that program
[05:34] <user1> well every one, I am  off
[05:34] <Yashiro_Nanakase> let me check
[05:34] <el_isma> !dma
[05:34] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hard disks run faster,  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[05:34] <user1> take care
[05:34] <el_isma> nodma_why: look at that
[05:34] <nodma_why> loooking
[05:34] <majorMatarrese> !windows
[05:34] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[05:35] <el_isma> I need help bridging my eth cards. I tried the howto in the wiki but it didn't work. Also, I tried a few howtos for debian, no result... I already have installed bridge-utils. My network setup is a router/gateway, my machine (has eth0 and eth1) and my sister's machine (connected to mine, running WinXP). Anybody can help me?
[05:35] <painkiler> how can I partition an existing drive that already has ubuntu on it so I can have a small fat32 partition
[05:35] <el_isma> painkiler: gparted? qtparted?
[05:35] <painkiler> dunno the difference
[05:35] <painkiler> explain...
[05:35] <Yashiro_Nanakase> can i put my error here?
[05:35] <phenez> !freebsd
[05:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about freebsd - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:35] <Yashiro_Nanakase> there r like 6 lines
[05:35] <el_isma> painkiler: one's for gnome, the other for kde :)
[05:36] <el_isma> painkiler: both frontends for parted
[05:36] <painkiler> oh
[05:36] <painkiler> sorry
[05:36] <painkiler> cool
[05:36] <painkiler> I'll use them then
[05:36] <painkiler> thanks
[05:36] <Yashiro_Nanakase> ALSA: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.10rc3 (Mon Nov 07 13:30:21 2005 UTC).
[05:36] <Yashiro_Nanakase> ALSA Driver: 0: ATI IXP [IXP] , device 0: ATI IXP AC97 [ATI IXP AC97] , 0/1 subdevices avail
[05:36] <Yashiro_Nanakase> ALSA Driver: 1: ATI IXP Modem [Modem] , device 0: ATI IXP MC97 [ATI IXP MC97] , 1/1 subdevices avail
[05:36] <Yashiro_Nanakase> Couldn't load driver ALSA: dsnd_pcm_open(hw:0): Device or resource busy
[05:36] <Yashiro_Nanakase> Mixing 0.000000 ahead in 0 Mix() calls
[05:36] <Yashiro_Nanakase> Couldn't load driver ALSA-sw: dsnd_pcm_open(hw:0): Device or resource busy
[05:36] <el_isma> Yashiro_Nanakase: go ahead
[05:36] <Yashiro_Nanakase> Mixing 0.000000 ahead in 0 Mix() calls
[05:36] <Yashiro_Nanakase> Couldn't load driver OSS: RageSound_OSS: Couldn't open /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[05:36] <phenez> oh no
[05:36] <phenez> !pastebin
[05:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:36] <Yashiro_Nanakase> sorry, this isn't spam, it's an error u.u
[05:36] <joshg> can someone help me with this error?  I totally screwed my system.../dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[05:37] <dell500> this is kinda dumb, cause i knew the answer but now i don't, but how do you format a USB-SATA partition (not made yet) and/or mount it to make it...
[05:37] <el_isma> Yashiro_Nanakase: does sound work in other apps?
[05:37] <Yashiro_Nanakase> yep
[05:37] <Yashiro_Nanakase> beep-media-player and mplayer works terrificly good :D
[05:37] <el_isma> Yashiro_Nanakase: and they aren't running when you run that program?
[05:37] <Yashiro_Nanakase> nope
[05:38] <Yashiro_Nanakase> only stepmania
[05:38] <el_isma> Yashiro_Nanakase: Then I have no clue :)
[05:38] <Yashiro_Nanakase> so i don't understand the error ._.
[05:38] <TheGame> is there an options menu for take screenshot
[05:38] <el_isma> dell500: try qtparted or gparted
[05:38] <TheGame> my mouse is never in the screen and iwant it to be
[05:38] <Coruscant> how do you create an empty .dll?
[05:38] <Pntkl> that's a secret
[05:38] <cyanics> wish VLC could figure out what "always ontop" means.
[05:38] <el_isma> dell500: I don't know if it works with usb drives
[05:39] <nomasteryoda> cyanics, lol so true...
[05:39] <dell500> can't i just mount the usb and then format it?
[05:39] <el_isma> dell500: if it's already partitioned, yes...
[05:39] <dell500> oh, well it's not formatted...
[05:39] <TheGame> anyone?
[05:39] <el_isma> dell500: formatted =! partitioned
[05:39] <dell500> gotcha
[05:40] <dell500> is it gt or just g?
[05:40] <nachumk> i checked the audio jacks, none of them output sound, i also checked xmms using oss, esound, and alsa
[05:40] <dell500> cause i don't have either...
[05:40] <b14ck73425> has anyone used linux as a server
[05:40] <el_isma> dell500: gparted or qtparted (gnome and kde, resp)
[05:40] <nachumk> and none of them output sound, although all of them look like they're working
[05:40] <nachumk> is there an irc for alsa?
[05:40] <garrett|mobile> Good evening, #ubuntu
[05:40] <el_isma> nachumk: I don't know... You could try the debian channels too
[05:40] <el_isma> I need help bridging my eth cards. I tried the howto in the wiki but it didn't work. Also, I tried a few howtos for debian, no result... I already have installed bridge-utils. My network setup is a router/gateway, my machine (has eth0 and eth1) and my sister's machine (connected to mine, running WinXP). Anybody can help me?
[05:41] <eimajenthat> hey, anyone used an atheros card with Ubuntu?
[05:41] <nachumk> what are they?
[05:41] <nachumk> and thanx for the help here
[05:41] <eimajenthat> I'm having trouble with mine
[05:41] <eternalswd> does anyone know if it is possible to tab through every file in the gnome-terminal and if so, how?
[05:41] <el_isma> nachumk: what are what?
[05:41] <eimajenthat> normally it's recognized and functional at boot
[05:42] <eimajenthat> but sometimes it doesn't seem to get noticed when the system is booting
[05:42] <{K}Lubby> hey everyone, i have a question
[05:42] <eimajenthat> how do I get it noticed after the fact?
[05:42] <sethk> eternalswd, I'm not sure exactly what you mean, but zsh will do whatever it happens to be.
[05:42] <{K}Lubby> how do i get a ubuntu computer to connect to my windows xp computer (this one) using a crossover cable?
[05:42] <sethk> {K}Lubby, a crossover cable is the same as two machines connected to a hub/switch
[05:42] <joshg> can someone help me with this error?  I totally screwed my system...
[05:43] <el_isma> sethk: is that like the vi vs emacs war? (bash vs sh vs zsh vs....) What outstanding features does zsh have?
[05:43] <joshg> /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[05:43] <sethk> {K}Lubby, so you simply configure both boxes to talk to each other.
[05:43] <TheGame> is there a way to take screenshots witht he mouse in it?
[05:43] <{K}Lubby> when i go to edit the connection settings for a static ip and stuff, it say's that it could not enable the interface eth0
[05:43] <{K}Lubby> so seth, how do i configure them?
[05:43] <joshg> I'm trying to fix grub, but I think it got wiped out
[05:43] <sethk> el_isma, no, it isn't like that
[05:43] <sethk> el_isma, essentially, ksh is from UNIX, bash is a superset of ksh, and zsh is a superset of bash
[05:44] <eternalswd> sethk, what I want is to press a key on the keyboard in the terminal and have the first filename come up.  hitting that same key again would then bring up the second filename and so on
[05:44] <Yashiro_Nanakase> how can i know what process its using a device?
[05:44] <sethk> eternalswd, zsh will do that
[05:44] <CalcMaster86>  yay! i have networking! but i have another question... i'm trying to install libxtst-dev, but the package installer says i need libxtst6... when i try installing libxtst6, it fails, telling me i have a newer version
[05:44] <{K}Lubby> the ubuntu one needs to have an ip of 192.168.0.(something), subnet 255.255.255.0, gateway 192.168.0.1, dns server 192.168.0.1
[05:44] <mikeg> hi everyone
[05:44] <Yashiro_Nanakase> use apt-get install <packagename> :D
[05:45] <mikeg> what is wrong if my ubuntu does not detect my SATA raids
[05:45] <eternaljoy> does azureus install on Dapper?
[05:45] <{K}Lubby> or is there another way to set up the network other than system-->administration-->network settings?
[05:45] <el_isma> eternaljoy: Yup, but you have to install jre1.5 first
[05:45] <CalcMaster86>  yashiro_nanakase: that doesn't work for libxtst-dev... it says it couldn't find the package
[05:46] <{K}Lubby> and if it makes a difference, im running ubuntu from an iso cd (it's not actually installed yet)
[05:46] <eternaljoy> el_isma: ok cheers!  I have jre1.5 installed already
[05:46] <Yashiro_Nanakase> find a repository that haves the package :D
[05:46] <mikeg> what is wrong if my ubuntu does not detect my SATA raids
[05:46] <gil> what are the open office langauage pacakges i need to install from adept
[05:46] <el_isma> eternaljoy: I had to set it up as default too, with galternatives, otherwise azureus wouldn't run
[05:46] <eternaljoy> el_isma: once azureus is intstalled, then what?
[05:46] <eternaljoy> el_isma: ok got it
[05:46] <coded1> can anyone share opinions of amd64 / 64bit kernels?  Is it worth it?  If I want to use it as a PVR will it make it difficult for video/sound drivers / software?
[05:46] <sethk> eternalswd, man zshcompsys will give you all the gory details, if you have zsh and zsh docs installed.  Basically you set one option flag, and tab lists all the completions, then  each tab shows one file name
[05:46] <gil> i need the open office dictionary? :-(
[05:47] <Pirate-King> it detects my wireless card signal strenghth but can't connect
[05:47] <{K}Lubby> anyone know how to fix it so it will let me have a static ip without having an error that dis-activates the connection?
[05:47] <dmb> anyone have any info on the 6.06.1?
[05:47] <CalcMaster86>  yashiro_nanakase: yes, i found one, downloaded it to my machine, and tried to install it with package installer... it says: Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libxtst6
[05:47] <mikeg> whats wrong if SATA drives not detected
[05:47] <CalcMaster86>  yashiro: whe i try installing libxtst6, it says i have a newer version
[05:47] <Icemasta[God] > Hell
[05:47] <Icemasta[God] > o
[05:48] <sethk> {K}Lubby, hmm?  just set a static IP
[05:48] <{K}Lubby> seth, thats my problem
[05:48] <{K}Lubby> it won't let me set a static ip
[05:48] <sethk> {K}Lubby, run network-admin
[05:48] <sethk> {K}Lubby, how are you trying to set it?
[05:48] <el_isma> {K}Lubby ifconfig ethX up 123.123.123.123 ?
[05:48] <el_isma> (where 123 is your ip)
[05:48] <IRCMonkey> how do I install wine on dapper drake?
[05:49] <sethk> {K}Lubby, at the command line, if it is eth0,   ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.10 netmask 255.255.255.0
[05:49] <sethk> {K}Lubby, obviously replace 192.168.0.10 with the ip you wish to use
[05:49] <sethk> {K}Lubby, need to be root, so if you aren't, use sudo
[05:49] <{K}Lubby> i get to command line by opening terminal, right?
[05:49] <el_isma> IRCMonkey: easiest way is to set the wine repository, and then let apt-get(synaptic, adept) use it
[05:50] <{K}Lubby> and sethk, how do i set the gateway and stuff?
[05:50] <{K}Lubby> gateway and dns server i think is the only other things
[05:50] <sethk> {K}Lubby, the gateway is set with:   route add default gw 192.168.0.100           of course replacing 192.168.0.100 with the gateway address
[05:50] <el_isma> sethk: Do you know how to bridge ethernet cards? I'm having trouble doing that...
[05:51] <sethk> el_isma, it's been a while, but I have done it.  What problem are you having?
[05:51] <el_isma> sethk: I tried the howto in the wiki but it didn't work. Also, I tried a few howtos for debian, no result... I already have installed bridge-utils. My network setup is a router/gateway, my machine (has eth0 and eth1) and my sister's machine (connected to mine, running WinXP).
[05:51] <Yashiro_Nanakase> firestarter?
[05:51] <{K}Lubby> so sethk, in terminal i type: sudo add default gw 192.168.0.1
[05:51] <sethk> {K}Lubby, no
[05:51] <firestarter> Yashiro_Nanakase: yes?
[05:51] <sethk> {K}Lubby, sudo route add default gw 192.168.0.1
[05:51] <{K}Lubby> okay
[05:52] <Yashiro_Nanakase> lol
[05:52] <el_isma> sethk: the ubuntu guide got me far... I got the bridge to get an IP from my router, but I had no internet
[05:52] <Icemasta[God] > Can I ask something?
[05:52] <sethk> {K}Lubby, if there is another gateway set, you may have to delete it.
[05:52] <Yashiro_Nanakase> i mean the package called firestarter
[05:52] <Yashiro_Nanakase> xD
[05:52] <el_isma> Icemasta[God] : go ahead
[05:52] <firestarter> Yashiro_Nanakase: lmao!
[05:52] <cyanics> Icemasta[God] , fire away
[05:52] <Icemasta[God] > woot
[05:52] <sethk> probably you have to set or add routes
[05:52] <Icemasta[God] > So, I'll format windows pretty soon, and install linux ubuntu 6.06 or LTS
[05:53] <{K}Lubby> okay sethk i have a problem, when i tried that it says: SIOCADDRT: network is unreachable
[05:53] <Icemasta[God] > The problem is, I got 1.8 TB of space (1676 TiB)all of that in ntfs
[05:53] <el_isma> sethk: I did add a route to my router. I don't know if I did it correctly
[05:53] <sethk> el_isma, list out your routing table (route with no arguments prints it)
[05:53] <el_isma> sethk: ok, hold on
[05:53] <CyaniCs|transcde> Icemasta[God] , that is a problem.
[05:53] <sethk> el_isma, paste it to the pastebot and we'll see if it is correct
[05:53] <Icemasta[God] > I got a partition for the OS, which is 20GB, and I'll wipe that out
[05:53] <Icemasta[God] > To install ubuntu
[05:53] <el_isma> sethk: where's the pastebot?
[05:53] <Icemasta[God] > Will the ntfs work on ubuntu?
[05:54] <}btorch{> how can I tell apt-get install to install all php4 related packages , like php4-mysql and so on?
[05:54] <Yashiro_Nanakase> only for read
[05:54] <Icemasta[God] > I heard lots of bug that I'll be able to read, but not write
[05:54] <CyaniCs|transcde> Icemasta[God] , ntfs read will work, but not ntfs writes
[05:54] <flipfone> ntfs reads just fine
[05:54] <sethk> somebody tell el_isma about paste?
[05:54] <el_isma> Icemasta[God] : ntfs can already be read from linux
[05:54] <Yashiro_Nanakase> u can't write on nfts partitions
[05:54] <sethk> !paste > el_isma
[05:54] <Icemasta[God] > So I have to change all my partitions to write on them?
[05:54] <CyaniCs|transcde> Icemasta[God] , you can potentially setup a custom kernel with ntfs writes, but it is really dangerous
[05:54] <sethk> Icemasta[God] , it isn't a bug
[05:54] <el_isma> Icemasta[God] : ntfs-3g has good (but beta!) support for ntfs write
[05:54] <{K}Lubby> this is evil :\
[05:54] <sethk> Icemasta[God] , it just isn't available
[05:54] <CyaniCs|transcde> Icemasta[God] , yeah, but it isn't just that easy. if you are talking about huge amounts of space.
[05:55] <sethk> {K}Lubby, why don't you just run network-admin?  it's simple; you just fill in the blanks
[05:55] <jordanau> what is a great detailed weather app?
[05:55] <Icemasta[God] > By "change them" would mean complete format -.-
[05:55] <{K}Lubby> sethk, where?
[05:55] <CyaniCs|transcde> Icemasta[God] , that would be the easiest way.
[05:55] <sethk> {K}Lubby, what do you mean?   at the command line, run:   sudo network-admin
[05:55] <el_isma> sethk: ready
[05:55] <{K}Lubby> okay
[05:55] <Icemasta[God] > What filesystem should I use thne?
[05:55] <CyaniCs|transcde> Icemasta[God] , do you have enough space space to move them around?
[05:56] <CyaniCs|transcde> Icemasta[God] , ext3 is good for general support in linux. Fat32 is compatable between linux and windows
[05:56] <Icemasta[God] > I could get another 600GB HDD
[05:56] <sethk> el_isma, if it is on the 'bot, paste the URL here
[05:56] <el_isma> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20245
[05:56] <Icemasta[God] > CyaniCs|transcde, I heard of a weird one
[05:56] <Icemasta[God] > rheisp or something
[05:56] <phargle> reiserfs
[05:56] <Icemasta[God] > Yeah, that thing
[05:57] <sethk> el_isma, can you ping 192.168.123.254?
[05:57] <el_isma> sethk: that 192.168.123.0 is wrong :S
[05:57] <el_isma> sethk: yup, that's the router
[05:57] <sethk> el_isma, remove it
[05:57] <sethk> el_isma, the one that's wrong, remove it.
[05:57] <northstar> i have a dual boot system with Windows XP, the XP system needs to be reinstalled (what a surprise...)  is it possible to do this without destroying my linux setup?
[05:57] <sethk> el_isma, wait
[05:57] <{K}Lubby> sethk, i've tried using network-admin, and it works fine using dhcp configuration (other than that it won't connect to my xp box!), but if i do static ip and put the info in it says: could not enable the interface eth0. check that the settings are correct for this network and that the computer is correctly connected to it
[05:57] <eimajenthat> can I hotswap my pcmcia wireless card?
[05:57] <Coruscant>  how do you open/use this tiberian.sun_2.03-english.run
[05:57] <eimajenthat> how?
[05:57] <sethk> el_isma, what is this machines IP address (addresses, actually)?
[05:57] <Coruscant> or any .run file for that matter
[05:58] <horrork> Where is the sl-modem-daemon package?
[05:58] <horrork> Can't find it in synatic
[05:58] <el_isma> sethk: this one is 192.168.123.140
[05:58] <horrork> With multiverse enabled
[05:58] <sethk> {K}Lubby, it can't work with dhcp and fail that way with a static ip.  It isn't really working with dhcp either.
[05:58] <el_isma> sethk: how do I remove that wrong entry?
[05:58] <{K}Lubby> yeah, i meant that with dhcp it isnt giving an error message
[05:59] <CyaniCs|transcde> Icemasta[God] , i would still recommend ext3 if you are going exclusively linux
[05:59] <el_isma> sethk: there's another Ip for the vmware-windows. You need that one too?
[05:59] <sproingie> how do i get the java plugin to work in firefox?
[05:59] <Icemasta[God] > CyaniCs|transcde, hmm... wait..
[05:59] <Icemasta[God] > I always wondered
[05:59] <sethk> el_isma, you remove a route with route del     but, the 192.168.123.0 line isn't wrong if eth0 is 192.168.123.140
[05:59] <Coruscant> HELP!  how do you open/use this tiberian.sun_2.03-english.run
[05:59] <Icemasta[God] > When you send a file via TCP or UDP packets
[05:59] <{K}Lubby> however, it still won't connect because my xp computer doesn't have dhcp on it... (side note: is there a way i could set up my xp computer with a dhcp server so that i could leave the ubuntu settings on dhcp?)
[05:59] <el_isma> sethk: but there's nothing at *.*.*.0
[05:59] <TheGame> is there an alternative to limewire
[05:59] <Icemasta[God] > Is it decoded from NTFS before?
[05:59] <TheGame> that actually looks good
[05:59] <CyaniCs|transcde> Coruscant,  type "sh FILENAME"
[05:59] <Icemasta[God] > That's rather dumb
[06:00] <sethk> el_isma, that's ok, that says anything for 192.168.123.* goes out via eth0
[06:00] <GoDawgs> hey everybody :)
[06:00] <TheGame> sup dawgs
[06:00] <sethk> el_isma, which is correct if the netmask is 255.255.255.0
[06:00] <CyaniCs|transcde> Icemasta[God] , when you send a file, you are transmitting date, not filesystem
[06:00] <CyaniCs|transcde> Icemasta[God] , the file system works as a result of the recieving computer
[06:00] <sethk> el_isma, for a bridge I expect to see eth1 as well as eth0.
[06:00] <horrork> Why can't I find sl-modem-daemon in synatic>
[06:00] <TheGame> how do i make folders hidden
[06:00] <GoDawgs> I get the feeling I have a question that's been asked like four billion times.  But since I haven't gotten an answer directly, I need to ask it again.  Has Ubuntu gotten the Broadcom 4318 drivers working yet?
[06:00] <TheGame> any1
[06:01] <GoDawgs> I was told they had in Dapper.
[06:01] <el_isma> sethk: now there's nothing set, if I set it up I lose internet
[06:01] <TheGame> i want to hide some folders in my home folder
[06:01] <Icemasta[God] > To bastardize it, it receives it and stores in NTFS way?
[06:01] <Coruscant> CyaniCs|transcde explain
[06:01] <sethk> horrork, I see it in mine.  you did search?
[06:01] <{K}Lubby> sethk, any idea what's wrong, or is there a way i can set up my windows xp computer so that i can just leave the ubuntu one on dhcp settings?
[06:01] <horrork> sethk, yes
[06:01] <CyaniCs|transcde> Icemasta[God] , the OS says "oh, there is a file coming in, i need to write it to the hard disk, i use NTFS as my language"
[06:01] <horrork> apt-get search sl-modem-daemon
[06:02] <el_isma> TheGame: the usual "hide" in linux is to name the dir with a dot before, like ".whatever"
[06:02] <sethk> el_isma, remove the gateway route, set eth1, then add the gateway route back in, see if you keep internet
[06:02] <horrork> I tried synaptic too
[06:02] <Icemasta[God] > Ok, so "encoding - decoding" to bastardize it then?
[06:02] <GoDawgs> hey tritium
[06:02] <GoDawgs> :)
[06:02] <Icemasta[God] > :P, just nevermind me
[06:02] <Tonren> Guys, what's a good bandwidth testing utility to see if my ISP has capped my uploads?
[06:02] <Icemasta[God] > I'll format tomorrow
[06:02] <GoDawgs> hey nalioth :)
[06:02] <CyaniCs|transcde> Coruscant, in a terminal, you type "sh THE FILE NAME HERE.run"
[06:02] <el_isma> sethk: the other machine is off, does that matter?
[06:02] <sethk> horrork, has to be your repository setup.  I'm running breezy by the way
[06:02] <Icemasta[God] > Oh, what is the lost rate?
[06:02] <sethk> el_isma, no, should not matter
[06:02] <Icemasta[God] > For ext3?
[06:02] <{K}Lubby> sethk, do you know how to fix what's going on lol?
[06:02] <horrork> sethk I am running dapper
[06:02] <horrork> sethk I have setup the repo in synaptic
[06:03] <el_isma> sethk: which line should I remove?
[06:03] <sethk> horrork, it's possible that the package name has changed, although I doubt it.
[06:03] <amonkey> how can i install libtag from svn on ubuntu?
  nm im a  noob i got it now though thanks
[06:03] <sethk> el_isma, we did route add default gateway ....       you remove it with exactly the same command, except instead of route add, it is route del
[06:03] <eternalswd> sethk, do you know how I can get zsh to display the same as default gnome terminal ie instead of computer% for it to display user@computer:path$
[06:03] <GoDawgs> does anyone know how to get the Broadcom 4318 wlan up and running?
[06:04] <{K}Lubby> or... hey sethk i have another idea....
[06:04] <cafuego> GoDawgs: Yes, the wiki :-)
[06:04] <cafuego> !bcm43xx
[06:04] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:04] <Icemasta[God] > CyaniCs|transcde, I love you, but tell me, is there a big lost rate for ext3?
[06:04] <sethk> el_isma, I have one box here with multiple NICs, and it had a similar problem with losing the internet after bringing up the second.  It turned out that the bringing up the second NIC put a route in the routing table that was messing things up.
[06:04] <{K}Lubby> would it work better if i put the wireless connection (lan network that has internet) onto the ubuntu instead, and then hooked the xp box up to the ubuntu one?
[06:04] <el_isma> sethk: yup, that looked like a disconnect :(
[06:04] <Icemasta[God] > Space wise
[06:04] <TheGame> el_isma is there a way to hide a folder and have it still be used by the program
[06:04] <GoDawgs> cafuego: I can't tell you how many times I've been to the wiki but to no avail.
[06:04] <sethk> el_isma, I fixed it by removing the bad route add adding the correct default route.
[06:04] <GoDawgs> cafuego: thanks though :)
[06:04] <TheGame> for instance i hid google earth by adding the dot but now the shortcut cant find it
[06:04] <TheGame> because of the dot
[06:05] <cafuego> GoDawgs: Did you use the instructiuons there or not find any?
[06:05] <CyaniCs|transcde> Icemasta[God] , it is about 5% above NTFS needed space.
[06:05] <sethk> el_isma, if you run network_admin, it has on a multiple NIC machine a pulldown to select the interface for the default route
[06:05] <GoDawgs> cafuego: no I found plenty... just none of the "fixes" fixed my problem
[06:05] <sethk> el_isma, that's the easy way to fix it.
[06:05] <Icemasta[God] > And NTDS needed space is?
[06:05] <GoDawgs> cafuego: i've been having this problem for over a year now so I'm not surprised it's still not working.
[06:05] <el_isma> sethk: I should bring up eth1 first, right?
[06:05] <CyaniCs|transcde> Icemasta[God] , so if you had 100GB of hard drive space, and formatted it NTFS, if you reserve ~8%, ext3 will reserve abobut ~13%
[06:05] <GoDawgs> Well, actually a little surprised... because SOOOOOOOOOOO many people have this same card
[06:06] <el_isma> sethk: should I do ifup eth1 or ifconfig eth1 up?
[06:06] <horrork> Anyone know where did sl-modem-daemon go? (It is not in synaptic.)
[06:06] <CyaniCs|transcde> Icemasta[God] , but a 5GB file will still take 5GB
[06:06] <Icemasta[God] > I understand that
[06:06] <Icemasta[God] > So if I partition a 100GB space
[06:06] <Icemasta[God] > It will glomp 13GB?
[06:06] <cafuego> GoDawgs: The latest dapper kernel update and firmware pretty much means the 4318 out to work now
[06:06] <sethk> el_isma, I prefer to use ifconfig because it is the same on all distros.  ifup is a script that calls ifconfig.  In this case I think both  do exactly the same thing.
[06:06] <CyaniCs|transcde> Icemasta[God] , about that, yeah
[06:06] <GoDawgs> cafuego: yeah, that's what i thought too...
[06:06] <Icemasta[God] > Per partition?
[06:06] <el_isma> sethk: Ok, gonna try.
[06:06] <Icemasta[God] > Or per HDD?
[06:06] <cafuego> Icemasta[God] : Unless you trweaked it to say 0%, yes.
[06:06] <GoDawgs> cafuego: I just did a dist-upgrade today and i still can't get it to activate
[06:07] <el_isma> sethk: I should set up the bridge again, right?
[06:07] <sethk> el_isma, the default command for ifconfig is up, so you can just do   ifconfig eth1  ip netmask mask         where of course ip and mask are numbers
[06:07] <CyaniCs|transcde> Icemasta[God] , per formatted partition.
[06:07] <coded1> can anyone give me some insight on 32v64bit kernel arch? any experiences?  I'm planning on using this box as a pvr/mame box(FWIW)
[06:07] <el_isma> sethk: with brctl ?
[06:07] <cafuego> GoDawgs: Did you install the firmware?
[06:07] <{K}Lubby> hey sethk, do you think it would make a difference if i actually installed ubuntu onto the computer instead of running it from the iso cd?
[06:07] <Icemasta[God] > Holy shi-
[06:07] <eternalswd> sethk, nevermind, I found the appropriate instructions.  one question though, is there a way to get gnome terminal to use zsh by default?
[06:07] <GoDawgs> networking sees the card... has for a long time.. but getting it to work is another story.
[06:07] <GoDawgs> cafuego: firmware?
[06:07] <sethk> el_isma, I'd take it one step at a time.  see if the internet is still there after bringing up eth1 but before the bridge configuration.
[06:07] <CyaniCs|transcde> Icemasta[God] , thats pretty typical.
[06:07] <cafuego> Icemasta[God] : it's just a default; you can change it to 0 or 99% ;-)
[06:07] <GoDawgs> cafuego: it sees the card, didn't think i'd need firmware
[06:07] <sethk> eternalswd, usermod -s /bin/zsh username
[06:07] <Tonren> Guys, what's a good bandwidth testing utility to see if my ISP has capped my uploads?
[06:07] <CyaniCs|transcde> Icemasta[God] , cafuego is correct, but i would just go with the defaults and let it take the 13%
[06:07] <Icemasta[God] > cafuego, how how how?
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> bittorrent :P
[06:08] <cafuego> CyaniCs|transcde: The default is 5% actually
[06:08] <sethk> eternalswd, it is the default shell for the user, not specifically related to gnome-terminal
[06:08] <CyaniCs|transcde> Icemasta[God] , it has to do with the journal on the disk (your datas protection)
[06:08] <cafuego> Icemasta[God] : 'tune2fs' is the tool you're after.
[06:08] <CyaniCs|transcde> cafuego, my typical is about 13%
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> eternalswd,  set  your users default shell.. or make a gnome-terminal configuration to run zsh
[06:08] <{K}Lubby> hey sethk, do you think installing ubuntu onto that computer (it's running ubuntu off the iso cd i burned right now) would make a difference?
[06:08] <malv> will a 6.06 installation automatically update to 6.06.1?
[06:08] <el_isma> sethk: eth1 is up, no ipv4 address (but it does have an ipv6 address :S!), internet is alive
[06:08] <malv> or do I need to do something special?
[06:08] <CyaniCs|transcde> cafuego, about 70gb on an 80gb partition, net result
[06:08] <cafuego> CyaniCs|transcde: Not so much that as the reserved blocks count for root. That's all fine and well on /, but on /home it's kinda useless.
[06:09] <CyaniCs|transcde> cafuego, true.
[06:09] <oxez> hello, I just tried to play with my multimedia keys on my keyboard, (mostly for volume) and I have some trouble: I can see that gnome raises or lowers the volume (there is a window that popup with a bar..), but the sound itself doesn't change. What could cause that?
[06:09] <cafuego> CyaniCs|transcde: No, the issue there is that an 80GB disk is NOT 80GiB - the 1024 factor.
[06:09] <GoDawgs> cafuego: is my assumption wrong?
[06:09] <Icemasta[God] > Ok, so basicall,y I better be ready for some space lost?
[06:09] <{K}Lubby> sethk, you there?
[06:09] <Icemasta[God] > 160gb = 149gib
[06:09] <nalioth> hi GoDawgs
[06:09] <eternalswd> Dr_Willis, how dow I set the default shell?
[06:09] <CyaniCs|transcde> cafuego, that also. i recognize that. but basically, a noob is best off knowing they are only getting 95% of the advertised space
[06:09] <el_isma> sethk: I don't have a network_admin command :\
[06:10] <GoDawgs> nalioth: hey there :)
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> eternalswd,  linux/bash/shell 101 :P use 'chsh' i think.
[06:10] <Icemasta[God] > CyaniCs|transcde, are you calling me a noob?
[06:10] <oxez> Even if I mute the sound directly in that volume applet, the sound doesn't change.. weird
[06:10] <CyaniCs|transcde> Icemasta[God] , nope. i make no assumptions ;-) i am just trying to make it easy
[06:10] <shuveb|home> where do i set the size of tmpfs/shm from? im using dapper
[06:10] <GoDawgs> nalioth: how have you been?  Long time no see.
[06:10] <cafuego> CyaniCs|transcde: Aye, but 95% != 87% ;-)
[06:10] <{K}Lubby> errrm.... oddd....
[06:10] <{K}Lubby> i might have fixed it :S
[06:10] <Icemasta[God] > I was kidding :P
[06:11] <CyaniCs|transcde> cafuego, ok. i will just shut up and stick to my assessment of 13% on a typical partition
[06:11] <cafuego> GoDawgs: You still need (non-open) firmware with the free bcm43xx driver.
[06:11] <asdfjkl> does anyone use the webcam package "Motion"?
[06:11] <GoDawgs> cafuego: what do you mean?
[06:11] <GoDawgs> cafuego: meaning the driver?
[06:12] <cafuego> GoDawgs: The dapper kernel cannot use the bcm43xx without the firmware from broadcom.
[06:12] <Icemasta[God] > CyaniCs|transcdem, that's not the problem actaully
[06:12] <Tonren> GoDawgs: I hear that you should just use ndiswrapper and disable the broadcom drivers
[06:12] <seshomaru> Hello
[06:12] <Tonren> GoDawgs: But I don't even have wireless working.  o.O
[06:12] <GoDawgs> cafuego: I just downloaded the driver and saved the zip... so I need to get the firmware from broadcom is this what I understand?
[06:12] <{K}Lubby> or maybe i didn't fix it :\
[06:12] <cafuego> TonYou hear wrong.
[06:12] <Tonren> cafuego: Really, I thought that the default Bcom drivers were buggy and fail?
[06:12] <Icemasta[God] > I might have 1.676TiB, a bit less with teh partioning, but if I lose 13% of all that instead of 8%, I don't think everything will fit in after
[06:12] <Tonren> cafuego: I had Ndiswrapper working at some point in the past, but I recently reinstalled and now wireless refuses to wrk
[06:12] <cafuego> GoDawgs: That depends on whether you want to use the free drivers on the ndiswrapper windows drivers.
[06:12] <GoDawgs> Tonren: I can't use the ndis... doesn't work for me at all.
[06:13] <cafuego> GoDawgs: Ok, hold on
[06:13] <asdfjkl> does anyone use the webcam package "motion" ?
[06:13] <GoDawgs> cafuego: ok
[06:13] <CyaniCs|transcde> Icemasta[God] , if it is that close, you would probably be best adivised to upgrade your storage space.
[06:13] <cafuego> wiki is being slow, sorry...
[06:13] <GoDawgs> cafuego: no worries... am patient for help.  :)
[06:13] <eternalswd> if I use a .zshrc file, do I put it in my home directory?
[06:13] <CyaniCs|transcde> Icemasta[God] , i know where you are coming from. i have about 1.2tb of video files, and need to move them around from time to time
[06:13] <Icemasta[God] > CyaniCs|transcde, I got 1.8TB already -.-
[06:14] <{K}Lubby> rawrrrr
[06:14] <seshomaru> anyone can tell me about copying Linux with Norton Ghost
[06:14] <seshomaru> ?
[06:14] <el_isma> sethk: I'm going to try to make the bridge, be right back (hopefuly!)
[06:14] <cafuego> GoDawgs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper#head-833db445567bc16203a6b2450bef4d133959d618
[06:14] <Icemasta[God] > I could go on a burning strike
[06:14] <{K}Lubby> yo sethk are you there?
[06:14] <pushpop> Is there a Wiki on how to install in vmware on a seperate partition from windows, then  boot nativly into ubuntu?
[06:14] <GoDawgs> cafuego: let me go check it out... thanks :)
[06:14] <cafuego> GoDawgs: Basically, delete ndiswrapper, install the fimeware deb package, reboot.
[06:14] <Icemasta[God] > WAit, you know where I come from?
[06:14] <CyaniCs|transcde> Icemasta[God] , the other option is to get another system and run that as the server. then you can migrate over the network as necessary
[06:14] <RoninGurl> I downloaded 6.06.1 when I saw it mentioned on distrowatch or osnews. dont remember which. and i burned it to CD. how do i do a dist-upgrade from the CD.
[06:14] <Icemasta[God] > CyaniCs|transcde is a stalker!
[06:14] <cafuego> GoDawgs: (or unload and reload the bcm43xx driver)
[06:15] <Icemasta[God] > :P
[06:15] <cafuego> RoninGurl: Insert the cd, wait, click Yes.
[06:15] <RoninGurl> didnt work. said it wouldnt do it...
[06:15] <cafuego> bugger
[06:15] <GoDawgs> cafuego: ok... I'm not sure if i have the ndiswrapper anymore anyway.  So, I'll install the firmware from debian.
[06:15] <seshomaru> I copied Linux with Norton but when I want to boot from the new (copied) harddisk , i get a screen that says "grub, grub, grub"
[06:15] <cafuego> RoninGurl: You cna probably add the cd as repository in synaptic, try that.
[06:15] <pushpop> Is there a Wiki on how to install in vmware on a seperate partition from windows, then  boot nativly into ubuntu?
[06:15] <Tonren> cafuego: Which firmware package is that?  I'm trying to get wireless working too
[06:15] <cafuego> Tonren: Then one I maintain.
[06:16] <Tonren> cafuego: Oh, it's not in the repos?
[06:16] <cafuego> Tonren: I've only got 4306 cards myself, but I've had reports of the 4318 working too with the latest firmware files.
[06:16] <RoninGurl> so your saying do it from within ubuntu... my last dist-upgrade from 5.10 --> 6.06 was done via web updater. your system updater isnt recognizing 6.06.1 yet so i downloaded the ISO. how do you add the cd as a repository?
[06:16] <cafuego> Tonren: Nope, not free.
[06:16] <Tonren> cafuego: I have a  Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller.  what firmware should I be getting?
[06:17] <cafuego> Tonren: just the one in the package; it will work in 4318 as wella s 4318.
[06:17] <Tonren> cafuego: Your package?  Where is that?
[06:17] <cafuego> Tonren: (older firmwares had a bug, preventing the4318 from working)
[06:17] <cafuego> Tonren: wiki link, scroll up.
[06:17] <Tonren> cafuego: This one?: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper#head-833db445567bc16203a6b2450bef4d133959d618
[06:17] <cafuego> Yah
[06:18] <cafuego> Note the next section, "1.2.3. Setting up the Wireless Card" too.
[06:18] <Tonren> cafuego: Thanks
[06:18] <selfharm> good evening. is it possible to remote connect FROM windows to dapper?
[06:18] <Tonren> cafuego: Jesus, you maintain a repo?  I hear that's next to impossible
[06:18] <el_isma> sethk: It didn't work...
[06:18] <Tonren> selfharm: Using what?  VNC?
[06:18] <cafuego> Tonren: Nah, deady easy. Seveas wrote a little tool to do it.
[06:19] <Tonren> selfharm: Usually protocols are platform independent.  If you are running VNC or SSH, you can connect regardless of OS.
[06:19] <selfharm> Tonren, i dont know. can i do wit with vnc? can i do it with anything
[06:19] <cafuego> selfharm: You cna do it with vnc or with X from 'cygwin'. (or just ssh: putty)
[06:19] <Tonren> cafuego: I'm starting to get worried; I'm starting to recognize #ubuntu regular nicks
[06:19] <Tonren> selfharm: You sure can.
[06:19] <el_isma> sethk: are you around?
[06:19] <tonyyarusso> Tonren: Get used to it ;)
[06:19] <Tonren> tonyyarusso: Hehehe
[06:19] <selfharm> tonren, thanks ill go download vnc/
[06:19] <selfharm> do i need putty AND vnc? or just vnc?
[06:20] <Tonren> selfharm: Putty is text-only; VNC takes control of monitor
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> i use putty and vnc both :P
[06:20] <el_isma> anybody can help me setting up a bridge between two eth cards?
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> selfharm,  for windows ussage i tend to use the 'ultravnc'   vnc variant.
[06:20] <cafuego> Tonren: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/dapper-seveas/  -> search for 'Falcon'.
[06:20] <selfharm> thanks dr willis, my next question was what flavor of vnc
[06:20] <RoninGurl> I get "W:MD5 mismatch for: main/binary-i386/Packages, W:MD5 mismatch for: main/binary-i386/Packages.gz, E:Read error - read (5 Input/output error)" when i try to add the 6.06.1 CD as a repository
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> selfharm,  then theres that xming tool  -->  http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Xming  thats handy
[06:21] <Tonren> cafuego:  GPG error: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net dapper-cafuego Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 580E2519969F3F57
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> selfharm,  under linux - i tend to use the vnc4server  not noticed much differance in it and tightvnc..
[06:21] <cafuego> RoninGurl: disc broken, I'd hazard.
[06:21] <Tonren> cafuego: I've gotten that before, actually.  What in blazes does it mean?
[06:21] <{K}Lubby> this is driving me crazy
[06:21] <cafuego> Tonren: Check the home page at that url.
[06:22] <RoninGurl> it came straight from releases.ubuntu download page, hashes checked out. and i burned at half speed.
[06:22] <cafuego> Tonren: Means apt doesn't have the gpg key aprt that signed the package lists.
[06:22] <cafuego> Instructions on how toa dd are there.
[06:22] <Tonren> cafuego: Figured it out; thanks.
[06:22] <Tonren> cafuego: Didn't occur to me to just go to the freakin URL
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[06:23] <user1> hi all a little wile ago I had a problem with APT
[06:23] <Tonren> cafuego: So, now I'm supposed to restart?
[06:23] <bruenig> user1, doyou still?
[06:23] <Tonren> bruenig: cheeky
[06:23] <user1> the real problem was with SU
[06:23] <cafuego> Tonren: Or 'sudo rmmod bcm43xx; sudo modprobe bcm43xx'
[06:24] <Tonren> cafuego: I already removed bcom AND ndiswrapper because neither worked
[06:24] <cafuego> Tonren: bcom needs this firmware to work.
[06:24] <pushpop> Is there a Wiki on how to install in vmware on a seperate partition from windows, then  boot nativly into ubuntu?
[06:24] <user1> I just had to use sudo
[06:24] <Tonren> cafuego: Gah, I shouldn't have removed BCom after all.  ERROR: Module bcm43xx does not exist in /proc/modules
[06:24] <cafuego> Tonren: That's fine, just ignore that. modprobe it and voila
[06:25] <Tonren> cafuego: sweet.
[06:25] <Tonren> cafuego: OK, so, now do I restart?  And it's supposed to just work?
[06:25] <bruenig> pushpop, I don't think that is possible, from what I have seen vmware creates virtual machines, it doesn't make an actual physical representation of all of the files that you can access
[06:25] <el_isma> pushpop: I don't get what you want to do, could you explain a bit?
[06:25] <Tonren> cafuego: NO wait!  There it is!  eth1!
[06:25] <cafuego> Tonren: No, it you just modprobe'd the bcm43xx module, you need not restart. 'iwconfig' should now list the device.
[06:26] <cafuego> Tonren: 'sudo iwlist eth1 scan'
[06:26] <Tonren> cafuego: eth1 Interface doesn't support scanning : No such device
[06:26] <mitrovarr> hey guys, I'm running a really minimalistic laptop on xubuntu.  Anyone have any special advice on how to keep the memory usage down aside from the obvious?  (i.e. I know not to run everything at once like a dumbass.)
[06:26] <Tonren> cafuego: eth1 clearly exists in iwconfig's output
[06:27] <cafuego> Tonren: Ooh, special! ;-)
[06:27] <Tonren> cafuego: I know, I'm just too unique.
[06:27] <bruenig> mitrovarr, don't use memory heavy applications :P
[06:27] <RoninGurl> does this 6.06.1 release perhaps just have the updates ive already downloaded anyway perhaps? i have ubuntu upadate daily.
[06:27] <user1> bruenig: it was just that su stopped working for some reason. I had to use sudo
[06:27] <mitrovarr> heh... firefox doesn't like running on this.  It will, but it doesn't exactly fly
[06:27] <cafuego> RoninGurl: Then there will not be anything newer on the cd.
[06:27] <geoffTheFish> is there a CLI command to open a file with its default app?
[06:27] <bruenig> user1, you are supposed to use sudo?
[06:27] <mitrovarr> trying opera to see if it'll do better
[06:27] <mercykiller> mitrovarr, remove any uneeded services from init
[06:27] <Tonren> geoffTheFish: I've been searching for one of those for a while
[06:28] <Tonren> geoffTheFish: OS X has an "open" command
[06:28] <Samineru> does anyone know how to acquire a screenshot that includes a currently playing file?
[06:28] <Samineru> *currently playing .mov file
[06:28] <mitrovarr> mercykiller:  good idea, I'll go dig around and see if anything I don't need is there
[06:28] <geoffTheFish> Tonren: yeah, also if you use the fish command line
[06:28] <bruenig> user1, ubuntu uses sudo not su
[06:28] <Tonren> geoffTheFish: fish command line?
[06:28] <RoninGurl> cafuego, i haventn updated to 6.06.1...but i mean ive downloaded over 200 MB of updates since installing 6.06 LTS.
[06:28] <Tonren> bruenig: You can be a heathen and use sudo su if you want, though
[06:28] <hyperstream> ahh anyone know how link blocks work for unreal ? if so please msg me
[06:28] <user1> bruenig: I had been using it
[06:28] <Tonren> cafuego: Any hints?  I'm further than I got before, but now I'm stumped.
[06:28] <bruenig> user1, you can use su if you setup a root account also
[06:29] <cafuego> Tonren: Does 'iwconfig' list anything useful?
[06:29] <Tonren> cafuego: I'll pastebin it
[06:29] <el_isma> bruenig: user1: you can always do "sudo su" :P
[06:29] <cafuego> 'k
[06:29] <geoffTheFish> Tonren: yeah you need to install it then you can have a slightly slower but more featured command line experience
[06:29] <j_j> can anyone help me on installaing Ubuntu in VMWare ?
[06:29] <geoffTheFish> j_j i did it last week
[06:29] <j_j> cool
[06:30] <j_j> hi geoff
[06:30] <Tonren> cafuego: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20247
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> The fish shell has a feature that does that geoffTheFish
[06:30] <Tonren> geoffTheFish: What kind of features?
[06:30] <mitrovarr> mercykiller:  I'm not totally familiar with all linux services.  Any particular ones that stick out as being unnecessary and memory sucking?
[06:30] <j_j> Im runing a Winxp OS
[06:30] <geoffTheFish> Tonren: 'open' for one
[06:30] <Tonren> geoffTheFish: ahh
[06:30] <cafuego> Tonren: Ok, just a single eth1. Can you paste 'ifconfig' as well?
[06:30] <j_j> and i would like to install ubuntu on my VMWARE Server
[06:30] <geoffTheFish> Tonren: stands for friendly interactive shell
[06:31] <Tonren> geoffTheFish: I saw, in the repos
[06:31] <Tonren> cafuego: eth1 does not show up in ifconfig
[06:31] <Tonren> cafuego: jesus god
[06:31] <Tonren> cafuego: sudo ifconfig eth1 up
[06:31] <geoffTheFish> Tonren: tis ok but slower so i never use really
[06:31] <cafuego> Tonren: it will be 'ifconfig -a' though ;-)
[06:31] <Tonren> My blue wireless button just went on
[06:31] <cafuego> hey ho
[06:31] <Tonren> cafuego: OK, it scanned, but it's not picking up my wireless network
[06:32] <cafuego> Tonren: First: 'sudo iwconfig eth1rate 11M '
[06:32] <mercykiller> mitrovarr, not particularly, at least in my experience. The services used by big desktops are the worst, but XFCE is pretty fast.
[06:32] <user1> bruenig: I thought there was no root acount in ubuntu ?
[06:32] <el_isma> anybody can help me with my bridge problem? Somehow when I add the bridge "route" hangs, and I don't get my default (to my router) route...
[06:32] <cafuego> with a space between 'rate' and 'eth1'
[06:32] <mercykiller> mitrovarr, you can always remove cups and such if you don't need printing
[06:32] <bruenig> user1, there isn't by default but it can be set up
[06:32] <cafuego> user1: There is, it's just not used.
[06:32] <cafuego> user1: .. and not needed.
[06:33] <selfharm> i am looking at ultravnc to connect to dapper from windows. do i need to install the server, or does it come packaged with some sort of remote connection server?
[06:33] <mitrovarr> mercykiller:  I'm a little reluctant to do that since I'm mostly preparing this laptop for someone else who may need printing and won't be able to fix that sort of thing
[06:33] <el_isma> mitrovarr: If you *really* want RAM, try fluxbox :)
[06:33] <eternalswd> how do I reload .zshrc?
[06:33] <cafuego> Tonren: And 'sudo iwconfig eth1 ap any'
[06:33] <mercykiller> mitrovarr, it's not really necesary anyway
[06:33] <Tonren> cafuego: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20248
[06:33] <user1> bruenig: thanks for the help
[06:33] <el_isma> mitrovarr: Ain't pretty, but's small!
[06:33] <geoffTheFish> j_j: i installed u under vmware on xp
[06:33] <Tonren> cafuego: I should use "ap" instead of "essid"?
[06:33] <mall0c> how do i disable screen locking when i close the lid on my laptop?
[06:34] <geoffTheFish> j_j: it was a pain, the livecd ran like a dog
[06:34] <mercykiller> mitrovarr, like el_isma said, you could run a lightweight window manager
[06:34] <mitrovarr> el_isma:  Is it easy to get fluxbox going in ubuntu?  I've had bad experiences trying to get any window manager going but gnome/kde/xfce
[06:34] <user1> cafuego: thanks for the help
[06:34] <rexin> i'm trying to get read only access for all users... from fstab: "/dev/sda2 /media/osx hfsplus rw,exec,auto,users 0 0" anybody know what it should be?
[06:34] <Tonren> mitrovarr: i did 'sudo aptitude install fluxbox' and it worked fine
[06:34] <mitrovarr> Tonren:  Great, I'll do that
[06:34] <j_j> geoff
[06:34] <el_isma> mitrovarr: I haven't tried fluxbox in ubuntu... But I used to run it under Debian... It ran just fine.
[06:34] <j_j> so did you succefully
[06:34] <j_j> installed
[06:34] <cafuego> Tonren: the 'ap any' should make it scan
[06:34] <pushpop> Is there a Wiki on how to install in vmware on a seperate partition from windows, then  boot nativly into ubuntu?
[06:34] <geoffTheFish> j_j: i had to stop all unnecessry services, create a custom vmx as default didnt work
[06:35] <geoffTheFish> j_j: then it worked
[06:35] <|thunder> wassup all
[06:35] <bruenig> pushpop, it can't be done
[06:35] <mercykiller> mitrovarr, openbox is the absolute lightest on RAM in my experience, but fluxbox is a tad snappier
[06:35] <el_isma> pushpop: What do you want to do? Please explain
[06:35] <mitrovarr> has anyone tried getting ubuntu going on anything <64mb?  This is 64mb, and it runs, lots of swapping though.
[06:35] <j_j> actually
[06:35] <geoffTheFish> j_j: now i can use my winmodem from u
[06:35] <Tonren> cafuego: Did you look at my second pastebin? the bitrate change didn't work
[06:35] <j_j> im still trying to
[06:35] <Samineru> can someone walk me through installing xanim?
[06:35] <j_j> dodownload the ubuntu Virtual appliances but problem is i cant open it using
[06:35] <bruenig> el_isma, he wants to use vmware in windows to create an ubuntu virtual machine, store that virtual machine on another partition and then boot into that partition
[06:35] <j_j> azureus @geoff
[06:35] <geoffTheFish> j_j: gotta go, good luck it is possible...
[06:35] <bruenig> which can't be done I am almost possible
[06:36] <bruenig> positive*
[06:36] <el_isma> mitrovarr: I don't think you can get X in less than 32 Mb (at least, not a recent one)
[06:36] <Tonren> cafuego: sudo iwconfig eth1 rate 11M worked (i change m to M)
[06:36] <pushpop> el_isma: I am installing via vmware on a new partition I created.  I need to know how to partition the drive in vmware also I want to be able to dual boot in with windows so I want to boot into ubuntu nativly
[06:36] <mitrovarr> el_isma:  I wonder if you could do it in some wierd distro like DSL
[06:37] <el_isma> bruenig: Vmware does have a weird option about enabling "native" access to a partition. It says it's risky...
[06:37] <el_isma> mitrovarr: DSL would probably run in 32Mb
[06:37] <Tonren> cafuego: The wireless signal is definitely strong enough; a laptop in the other room is picking it up.  I'm still not picking it up here, though
[06:37] <earthsound> what is the partitioning program that Ubuntu uses on the alternate install CD?
[06:38] <mitrovarr> el_isma:  I'll have to try that someday if I ever find a 32mb computer.  it's fun to try to get modern software to run on old machines... I once saw a 486 running quake2 in 16 colors
[06:38] <|thunder> who can help me compile and install native wireless drivers. I have them. It's a makefile and a bunch of .h files. i have build-ess install from the dapper cd.
[06:38] <bruenig> I have used vmware to install windows and I went into the directory where windows was and it was just a bunch of foreign files with indecipherable data, nothing there that resembled a windows filesystem, so I assumed. It seems unlikely
[06:38] <el_isma> pushpop: You could try adding the drive as "native" (I think you need vmware server for that). BUT! Beware, it says it's risky!
[06:38] <bruenig> pushpop. why not just install ubuntu on the other partition and dual boot after that?
[06:38] <cafuego> Tonren: Ok, check back on the wiki page and run through the debug options.
[06:38] <mitrovarr> oh yeah, one last question:   Anyone know a web browser that's a decent combination of fast, light, and good?  Firefox and Opera are too heavy, dillo sucks too much.
[06:38] <pushpop> Because It hangs on Mouting Disk on install
[06:38] <pushpop> when I try to install nativly
[06:39] <bruenig> pushpop, get the alternate cd
[06:39] <el_isma> mitrovarr: just checked, minimum ram for DSL is 16Mb
[06:39] <Tonren> cafuego: Would it not show up if I have DHCP disabled?
[06:39] <el_isma> mitrovarr: lynx? :S
[06:39] <mitrovarr> text?  ugh
[06:39] <pushpop> bruenig: I did I have tried 2 diffrent cds
[06:40] <cafuego> Tonren: No, it win't auto-associate, you need to tel it about tour essid (and wep key) before dhcp will even be attempted.
[06:40] <Madpilot> mitrovarr, try Epiphany, it seems a bit faster than Firefox (Opera seems faster than FF too, for me...)_
[06:40] <mall0c> can anyone tell me how to disable screen locking when i close the lid on my laptop?
[06:40] <bruenig> pushpop, how long did you give it before you decided it had hung
[06:40] <el_isma> mitrovarr: links? I know there was one that could do some pictures (under X or framebuffer)
[06:40] <dcnstrct> could someone help me figure out what is wrong with my system ? Whenever I do an apt-cache search <anything> I get a segfault.  Whenever I load up a huge app like eclipse I get a seg fault... I thought this may be bad ram, so I REPLACED ALL MY RAM, but alas it still happens.  Any ideas ?
[06:40] <mitrovarr> alright
[06:40] <cafuego> dcnstrct: cpu overheating?
[06:40] <pushpop> bruenig: atleast 20 minutes
[06:40] <Tonren> cafuego: But I have "broadcast essid" enabled and it's not showing up in iwlist
[06:40] <mitrovarr> well, thanks for all the help guys!  Going to go try fluxbox and see if I can find a way to open up some ram
[06:41] <doughboy> Is there any way that a laptop connected through a wireless router can access printer from desktop that is hardwired to the wireless router?
[06:41] <cafuego> Tonren: Hmm... does 'dmesg' say anythingbout the wireless?
[06:41] <pushpop> bruenig: ill give you exact error 1 sec
[06:41] <dcnstrct> cafeugo, doesn't that normally produce a system crash though ? why would it only cause certin apps to fail ?
[06:41] <|thunder> malloc, ststem, prefs, power mangment
[06:41] <I-W-A-N> HAI
[06:41] <Tonren> cafuego: No.  Just the dreadful sense_key: 0x02 error I've had since I first installed Ubuntu 9 months gao
[06:41] <bruenig> pushpop, you have tried the alternate cd? that is the one that is all text. No live cd boot up.
[06:41] <pushpop> bruenig: O i havent, where could I dl that from
[06:41] <cafuego> dcnstrct: SOmetimers, it's a bit odd in that respect.
[06:42] <cafuego> Tonren: Hmmm. I'd say try a reboot.
[06:42] <Tonren> cafuego: Sure enough
[06:42] <dcnstrct> well that definatly could be it... I leave this thing on all the time
[06:42] <Tonren> cafuego: BTW, you wouldn't happen to know WTF this means, would you?: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20250
[06:42] <dcnstrct> I'll try giving it some shuteye
[06:42] <pushpop> bruenig: nm dumb question.. ok ill try that
[06:42] <Tonren> cafuego: It happens every two seconds.  If I exit X and go into single-user mode, it just keeps happening
[06:42] <Tonren> cafuego: It happens during boot-up, during shutdown.  It's just always happening
[06:43] <bruenig> pushpop, it is pretty easy to use make sure you allow it to install grub to the master boot record as that is necessary for the dual boot
[06:43] <Tonren> cafuego: I don't know what hdc is.  I only have one hard drive, and I'm pretty sure it's not my cdrom.
[06:43] <cafuego> Tonren: Yes, it's the cdrom.
[06:43] <Tonren> cafuego: What could be wrong with it?  What is a sense-key?
[06:43] <Tonren> cafuego: Wait, Google may be my savior
[06:44] <cafuego> :-)
[06:44] <Tonren> cafuego: Oooh, it's because of this stupid lightscribe sticker.  I don't even know what that does
[06:44] <cafuego> You could always unload the cdrom driver.
[06:44] <{K}Lubby> arrrrrrrg i STILL can't figure out what the problem is
[06:45] <Tonren> cafuego: But... then I wouldn't be able to use my cd-rom?
[06:45] <Tonren> Pyromaniak: What game?
[06:45] <{K}Lubby> is it possible to have a lan between a windows xp computer and a ubuntu computer using a crossover ethernet cable?
[06:45] <Pyromaniak> Tonren: Continuum
[06:45] <pushpop> bruenig: ok thank you.
[06:45] <yossman> lubby yea
[06:46] <{K}Lubby> yossman, how?
[06:46] <yossman> what's your definition of 'LAN'
[06:46] <yossman> what are you trying to do
[06:46] <Tonren> Pyromaniak: NOOOOOOOOO!! Continuum doesn't work with Wine?!!
[06:46] <azureal> lol...i just went through a _lot_ of debfoster prompts
[06:46] <cafuego> Tonren: Correct, until you loaded the driver again.
[06:46] <{K}Lubby> hook the two computers together, so that i can share the dsl internet connection on my xp with my ubuntu computer
[06:46] <Tonren> cafuego: Wouldn't it be a hassle to manually load and unload the driver every time I need to use the CD?  I mean, sure, I could write a script, but it just seems so... duct tape
[06:46] <I-W-A-N> HAI
[06:46] <{K}Lubby> basically, so that they can both be hooked into the internet
[06:47] <Tonren> cafuego: Oop.  What do you think of this solution?  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=942785  Seems like it might work.  I'll TIAS.
[06:47] <azureal> now it's removing enough packages to clear up 513mb.. idk if this irc chat program will eve work whene i'm done =P
[06:47] <cafuego> Tonren: It is exactly that.
[06:47] <yossman> lubby, you don't have a router?
[06:47] <{K}Lubby> and i got it to work with them both on xp, but i want one to have ubuntu
[06:47] <{K}Lubby> and yeah yossman i do, but thats for my home network that has dsl
[06:47] <Pyromaniak> Tonren: I was playing it yesturday, and now I can't get it to work
[06:47] <{K}Lubby> and im trying to set up a seperate one
[06:47] <Tonren> Pyromaniak: Weird. It stopped working in Wine?  Did you upgrade anything?
[06:47] <azureal> *gulps nervously*
[06:47] <yossman> lubby if you have the DSL working already in windows you can tell windows to share the connect
[06:48] <{K}Lubby> how?
[06:48] <Pyromaniak> Tonren: yeah... can you accept /msg? I'll paste the story
[06:48] <|thunder> lspci lists the name of my pcmcia linksys wireless card, does that indicate that there isa working driver? the card is not listed in sys/admin/networking
[06:48] <I-W-A-N> HAI
[06:48] <{K}Lubby> err wait i think i did that already
[06:48] <{K}Lubby> it worked when both computers used xp
[06:48] <Tonren> Pyromaniak: Go ahead
[06:48] <{K}Lubby> but now that i put one (the one that isnt on the dsl network) to use ubuntu
[06:48] <cafuego> |thunder: No, it just means the pci id is known.
[06:49] <{K}Lubby> and i can't get the xp and ubuntu to connect because when i try using a static ip on ubuntu it gives me an error
[06:49] <|thunder> cafuego, it lists the manufacturer and chipset properly.
[06:49] <{K}Lubby> and btw, i haven't actually isntalled ubuntu yet, just running it off the disc i burned from the iso off ubuntu.com
[06:49] <{K}Lubby> does that make a difference... rofl?
[06:49] <cafuego> |thunder: Yes, that's just a matter of add it to the 'pci.ids' file.
[06:50] <cafuego> |thunder: It bears no relation to it having a driver.
[06:50] <azureal> this is so trippy... half my applications in fluxbox don't work now =)
[06:50] <|thunder> ok, thanks
[06:50] <azureal> rather, clicking on them from the menu ;)
[06:50] <shawn_grimes> Hello, very new to Ubuntu, could someone tell me how to swap out a xorg.conf file? It say I don't have permission to write to that folder?
[06:50] <el_isma> shawn_grimes use sudo
[06:51] <el_isma> shawn_grimes "sudo command", like "sudo mv xorg.conf xorg.old"
[06:51] <azureal> !sudo
[06:51] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:51] <el_isma> shawn_grimes sudo gives you root powers
[06:51] <shawn_grimes> el_isma: I'm sorry, but I'm a native Windows user and no good with terminal commands :(
[06:51] <{K}Lubby> yossman, when i hit the okay button after putting in the static ip settings it says: could not enable the interface eth0. check that the settings are correct for this network and that the computer is correctly connected to it
[06:52] <el_isma> shawn_grimes it isn't that hard :)
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> 'use the shell luke! Give in to the Bash!'
[06:52] <el_isma> hahaha
[06:52] <Tonren> shawn: Don't be intimidated by the console; it's easy to tame once you understand a few core concepts.  The concept of "permissions" exists in Windows as well, just less obviously
[06:52] <azureal> shell is where it's at, lol
[06:52] <GoDawgs> cafuego:
[06:52] <{K}Lubby> anyone know how to fix it?
[06:52] <el_isma> shawn: never used DOS?
[06:52] <shawn_grimes> not at all
[06:52] <cafuego> GoDawgs:
[06:52] <GoDawgs> followed your directions... and for the first time I was able to activate the eth1.... it shows up... but for some reason I still can't get out
[06:52] <azureal> el_isma: don't bring up that garbage ;)
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> shawn,  check out   http://www.tldp.org/guides.html          - lots of guides to help ya there. (bookmark that site)
[06:53] <el_isma> azureal: well... it's "console"y :P
[06:53] <shawn_grimes> I have a MacBook and I'm just trying to swap out that file to use my correct resolution with Parallels desktop
[06:53] <GoDawgs> cafuego: I was soooo excited... because this is my only obstacle to using Ubuntu full time.
[06:53] <{K}Lubby> a possible problem i was thinking of is that im running ubuntu off the cd (the demo version type thingy) and haven't actually installed it yet
[06:53] <eternalswd> gnome terminal is still using bash even though I ran chsh /usr/bin/zsh  do I need to relogin for this to change?
[06:53] <cafuego> GoDawgs: yeah, there's some tweaking you may need to do for 4318 cards; I just dunno what, as I don't have one :-(
[06:53] <azureal> el_isma: it's nothing. it's.... bleh
[06:53] <etzerd> hello all
[06:54] <seshomaru> can anyone tell me how to fix grub?
[06:54] <azureal> el_isma: and yet... i find myself using it for random things like "del *.png"
[06:54] <etzerd> can anyone tell me how to install KDE in ubuntu6.0?
[06:54] <{K}Lubby> ...anyone know why it won't let me set static ip stuff?
[06:54] <cafuego> etzerd: install 'kubuntu-desktop'.
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> eternalswd,   try 'xterm -ls'  it may only change for your login shell.
[06:54] <el_isma> azureal: It's been so long since I used that... I guess nowadays I'll get quite scared :P
[06:54] <GoDawgs> cafuego: well, I understand that... kinda bummed because my heart raced when I saw it show up in the dropdown box... but then I was let straight down when I could get google to come up.
[06:54] <etzerd> thanks cafuego
[06:54] <el_isma> azureal: but I do use the command prompt in windows... every now and then
[06:54] <azureal> today i've had enough of a fright, so now i'm not afraid of any consoles
[06:54] <GoDawgs> cafuego: at least you were able to get me to the point where I can see it in the network dropdown
[06:54] <cafuego> GoDawgs: Check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper (it list some possible fixes, added by people who have a 4318)
[06:55] <GoDawgs> ok... let me give that a shot now...
[06:55] <etzerd> one more thing cafuego
[06:55] <flipfone> who was just helping me a few minutes ago?
[06:55] <TheGame> anybody have any success with ntfs-3g
[06:55] <harisund> What is debfoster?
[06:55] <cafuego> etzerd: yah?
[06:55] <etzerd> where can i go to install the driver for dvd
[06:55] <cafuego> harisund: A handy decrufting tool.
[06:55] <el_isma> yeah, what's debfoster?
[06:56] <eternalswd> Dr_Willis, that also used bash
[06:56] <Pizon> debfoster looks like a good way to get yaself in trouble
[06:56] <TheGame> has any1 here installed ntfs-3g
[06:56] <azureal> shawn_grimes, excellent linux tutorial series called "Linux Survival"
[06:56] <cafuego> etzerd: As in: to watch video?
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> eternalswd,  yea.. noticing that also. :P
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> eternalswd,  not sure what the deal is. heh.. make a new profile that runs the shell ya want. I perfer the 'fish' shell myself.
[06:56] <el_isma> I get it... for finding "Orphan" debs.... :)
[06:56] <etzerd> I know they have a site where you can go just copy and past I forgert the URL address
[06:56] <cafuego> etzerd: Ah, easyubuntu.
[06:57] <etzerd> thanks
[06:57] <UnknownEvil> hello?
[06:57] <cafuego> etzerd: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[06:57] <Dr_Willis>  chsh changes the user login shell. This determines the name of the users initial login command.
[06:57] <{K}Lubby> is ubuntu the best version of linux for just using stuff like browsing the internet? (it has to be able to connect with a crossover ethernet cable to my windows xp computer so i have internet access on it)
[06:57] <cafuego> {K}Lubby: Any version of Linux will be able to do that.
[06:58] <|thunder> is there a tool to easily configure ndiswrapper? for choosing which AP to connect to ?
[06:58] <{K}Lubby> okay
[06:58] <{K}Lubby> so is there a valid reason why it's not working?
[06:58] <Frankenstein> how can i flush the local dns cache in ubuntu?
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> eternalswd,  try it at the console.. it used the new shell there for me. :P
[06:58] <cafuego> |thunder: If you're in Gnome, try 'network-manager'
[06:58] <cafuego> {K}Lubby: Routing not working, windows not sharing network, no dns server... those are the usuals.
[06:58] <ubuntu> Hey everyone, I'm having troubles with my iMac G3. I am trying to install dapper, and after I do the known change to xorg.conf*changing the horiszontal and vertical settings* and try to restart gdm...it fails. Does anyone have any idea what I am doing wrong? That and for some reason my computer screen is cutting off 2 characters off of the left side.
[06:58] <el_isma> I want to set up a bridge between my two eth. cards.... I think they hate each other and don't want to talk anymore :( They cut me off the internet everytime I try to bridge them... "Route" hangs when they're bridged. Help :'(
[06:58] <UnknownEvil> Can someone tell me how to set up my wireless network card? I coulnd't conncect to the internet when I booted up my PC with the Live cd.
[06:59] <|thunder> cafuego, thanks
[06:59] <Samineru> the instructions for compiling xanim are a bit confusing, could someone help me?
[06:59] <eternalswd> Dr_Willis, I figured it out. I'm running zsh as a custom command rather than my shell
[06:59] <{K}Lubby> how do i get to /etc/hosts?
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> eternalswd,  heh.
[06:59] <Frankenstein> {K}Lubby, sudo nano /etc/hosts
[06:59] <GoDawgs> cafuego: oh my god dude....
[07:00] <GoDawgs> IT'S FRICKIN' WORKING!!!!
[07:00] <{K}Lubby> thanks
[07:00] <GoDawgs> I'm so happy I can't see straight.
[07:00] <{K}Lubby> whats working godawgs?
[07:00] <GoDawgs> My god this has been a thorn in my side for a year.
[07:00] <azureal> a year!
[07:00] <GoDawgs> {K}Lubby:  My broadcom 4318...
[07:00] <Samineru> !xanim
[07:00] <ubotu> I know nothing about xanim - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:00] <{K}Lubby> cool
[07:00] <GoDawgs> azureal: yep... cafuego is a god!!!
[07:00] <GoDawgs> :)
[07:01] <azureal> GoDawgs: that's a bad wireless card, right? lol
[07:01] <GoDawgs> cafuego: dude, you rock!!!
[07:01] <cafuego> GoDawgs: *whee!*
[07:01] <{K}Lubby> and in /etc/hosts, is localhost the ip of the gateway/router type thing, or the ip of that computer that /etc/hosts is on?
[07:01] <eternalswd> Dr_Willis under Edit -> Current Profile  in the tab Title and Command  I checked "Run a custom command instead of my shell"  and typed in zsh for the "Custom command"
[07:01] <GoDawgs> azureal: misbehaving yes!!!
[07:01] <Frankenstein> how can i flush the local dns cache in ubuntu?
[07:01] <GoDawgs> azureal: sadly, I bought this computer when I knew nothing about linux...
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> eternalswd,  thats one way. :P i set up that for mc, and screen, and other tools as well.
[07:02] <cafuego> GoDawgs: If there is anything you needed to do that wasn't mentioned on the wiki, please add it.
[07:02] <{K}Lubby> anyone know what localhost refers to?
[07:02] <Frankenstein> {K}Lubby, your computer
[07:02] <GoDawgs> cafuego: you know, the very last post in the wiki is what I needed...
[07:02] <azureal> GoDawgs: you could always buy a nice wireless card =)
[07:02] <azureal> *cough* orinoco
[07:02] <GoDawgs> azureal: I thought I had... I bought an external...
[07:02] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: It refers to "itself" .  localhost is a computer's way of saying "me" or "myself"
[07:02] <{K}Lubby> okay thought so
[07:02] <pushpop> THe swap partition is that Primary or logical?
[07:02] <cafuego> azureal: orinocos (silver) are 16bit yaargh
[07:02] <Frankenstein> so no one knows how to flush the dns?!
[07:03] <{K}Lubby> so i want that ip address to be the ip address i want that computer to be, right?
[07:03] <Tonren> Frankenstein: Ubuntu keeps a local DNS cache...?  I thought you had to specifically set that up
[07:03] <GoDawgs> azureal: my god this is beautiful...
[07:03] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: Actually, localhost shoulda lways be 127.0.0.1
[07:03] <azureal> what was the solution?
[07:03] <{K}Lubby> oh
[07:03] <GoDawgs> never thought i would be so freakin' stoked by a wlan :)
[07:03] <{K}Lubby> why tonren?
[07:03] <pushpop> Question, The swap partition is the Primary or Logical?
[07:03] <ubuntu> Anyone? Any help? Right now I am talking on this board from console. :-/ and well I want to get my computer fully working asap :(
[07:03] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: Whenever a computer accesses 127.0.0.1, it knows it should be looking for itself.  127.0.0.1 is the default IP for localhost.
[07:03] <GoDawgs> azureal: are you asking me?
[07:03] <Frankenstein> ubuntu, you would have to ask a question
[07:03] <ubuntu> channel*
[07:03] <{K}Lubby> cause i want it to be 192.168.0.something-other-than-1 so it can connect to my xp
[07:04] <ubuntu> I did...
[07:04] <Frankenstein> ubuntu, ask it again
[07:04] <azureal> GoDawgs: yea, the original solution, the original 'directions'
[07:04] <ubuntu> Ok
[07:04] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: Ah.  Well, that IP address will be associated with your network card, rather than localhost.
[07:04] <xquizit> hey, I got a simple question, I downloaded the Murrine Gtk2 Cairo Engine  from gnome-look and I have no clue how to use it, I downloaded the deb package and it installed fine, but how do I use it??
[07:04] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: Are both computers connected to the same router?
[07:04] <azureal> GoDawgs: did it involve editing /etc/network/interfaces?
[07:04] <october> what is the best way to check a drive in Linux to see if it's OK?
[07:04] <GoDawgs> azureal: sure...https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[07:05] <GoDawgs> azureal: no not at all
[07:05] <{K}Lubby> tonren, im using a crossover cable to connect them together.... same thing basically as having them connected together through a hub
[07:05] <GoDawgs> i just needed the firmware... then a few more steps and then to use the sudo ifconfig eth1 down  sudo ifconfig eth1 up commands
[07:05] <ubuntu> I am on an iMac G3, and I switched the horizontal and vertical settings in xorg.conf as I had done previously when I installed ubuntu. But this time when I tried restarting gdm it failed to start. Can anyone help me fix my computer to actually work?
[07:05] <GoDawgs> and bingo i am surfin' the net
[07:05] <azureal> GoDawgs, oh yea, i saw that link, but i was wondering what directions he gave you before that ;)
[07:05] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: ahh.  I haven't worked with cross-over cables before.  i'm not entirely sure how that woul dwork
[07:05] <october> GoDawgs heh, I'm in Macon
[07:06] <GoDawgs> october: i just moved here from southern california
[07:06] <|thunder> ive scanned the foums and cannot for the life of me figure out how to build or instsall this native wireless driver.
[07:06] <{K}Lubby> tonren its the exact same as using a hub or soemthing similar
[07:06] <mystic> so...nobody know how to confgure gtk-engines?
[07:06] <GoDawgs> october: that's very cool :)
[07:06] <october> GoDawgs nice... I used to live in the bay area, so there we go ;)
[07:06] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: Well, a cross-over cable usually doesn't know how to run a DHCP server and assign IP addresses to the computers connected to it.  :P
[07:06] <GoDawgs> october: I grew up here in Stone Mountain but have been away for 12 years...
[07:06] <|thunder> What do I do the a MAKEFILE and a bunch  of .h files ?
[07:06] <october> anyhoo
[07:06] <azureal> thing is, i was struggling very badly getting my intel wireless card to work under gentoo
[07:06] <ubuntu> Oh and sorry my name is ubuntu, I dont know how to change it
[07:06] <GoDawgs> october: right on!  My fiancee is from Santa Cruz.
[07:06] <azureal> blah, bad sentence structure
[07:06] <GoDawgs> azureal: Man, I sooooo understand.
[07:06] <el_isma> ubuntu: i think it's /name yourname
[07:06] <Tonren> |thunder: There's a special command called "make" which uses a Makefile as a set of rules to take the .h files and build them into an actual program
[07:06] <|thunder> ubuntu use /nick name
[07:07] <october> GoDawgs ;)  catch me as "Trae"  (my name) on #ubuntu-offtopic sometime
[07:07] <GoDawgs> october: will do :)
[07:07] <mikeg> Ubugtu:  wat to do if my sata drives are not detected
[07:07] <october> not now though... trying to fix this damned laptop
[07:07] <tanlaan> there we go :D
[07:07] <|thunder> Tonren, ive tried that. make and make MAKEFILE
[07:07] <|thunder> just errors
[07:07] <azureal> GoDawgs: you do? did you have to make crazy kernel changes and recompile?  ;)
[07:07] <mikeg> tanlaan:   wat to do if my sata drives are not detected
[07:07] <TheGame> is there a way to change shift+ctrl+v in terminal to just ctrl+v
[07:07] <GoDawgs> october: I'm Kelley.  Nice to meet you.
[07:07] <Tonren> |thunder: you'll have a hell of a time building them without knowing which packages you need installed to do it, though
[07:07] <GoDawgs> azureal: no, i'm not that ballzy....
[07:07] <Tonren> |thunder: Is there a list of "dependencies" on the site you downloaded them from?
[07:07] <october> GoDawgs backatcha ;)
[07:07] <GoDawgs> *smile*
[07:07] <tanlaan> mikeg: what?
[07:07] <TheGame> any1?
[07:07] <azureal> i kept trying to get that card to work that i broke gentoo
[07:08] <GoDawgs> brb... have to call my fiancee and share the good news :)
[07:08] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: Are both of the computers connected to the internet...?
[07:08] <{K}Lubby> tonren, can you tell me how to set up the ip address to 192.168.0.2, gateway ip to 192.168.0.1, subnet mask to 255.255.255.0, dns server to 192.168.0.1?
[07:08] <october> meh....  bbl
[07:08] <Tixer> um, ubuntu doesn't work for me anymore
[07:08] <Tixer> anyone wanna PM me?
[07:08] <mikeg> tanlaan:  my SATA drives are not detected. whats lacking?
[07:08] <|thunder> Tonren, its the only non-ndiswrwapper reference i can find. came in some sort of d-link linux distro. i dont know. but the readme's are useless in the tar.gz
[07:08] <azureal> and now i might have done something suicidal
[07:08] <Tixer> kstartupconfig = dead
[07:08] <Madpilot> Tixer, you're better off to just ask your questions here
[07:09] <tanlaan> mikeg: sorry I have no idea.
[07:09] <Tonren> |thunder: Your wireles sis'nt broadcom, is it?
[07:09] <Tixer> hang on, I'll copy the message...
[07:09] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: I'm pretty sure you can do all that using "sudo ifconfig"
[07:09] <azureal> yea, proceed Tixer
[07:09] <{K}Lubby> tonren, the xp is connected to the internet through a different network that i'm not allowed to hook the ubuntu directly into, so im hooking the ubuntu up to the xp and having the xp share the internet connection with the ubuntu (i already got this to work when the ubuntu was using xp, but i want to have an ubuntu computer)
[07:09] <mikeg> tanlaan: its okay
[07:09] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: For example, "sudo ifconfig eth0 gateway 192.168.0.1"
[07:09] <|thunder> Tonren, no, Chipset: Linksys, A Division of Cisco Systems [AirConn]  INPROCOMM IPN 2220 Wireless LAN Adapter (rev 01)
[07:09] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: Or "sudo ifconfig eth0 address 192.168.0.2"
[07:09] <Tixer> booting VPC
[07:09] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: that MIGHT not work though
[07:10] <sethk> no
[07:10] <sethk> it is
[07:10] <Tonren> |thunder: ndiswrapper didn't work for you?
[07:10] <sethk> {K}Lubby, ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.0
[07:10] <Tonren> sethk: It'll work without an argument?
[07:10] <tanlaan> Is there anything I need to change in xorg.conf other than the horizontal and vertical settings? Maybe I need to get a different version of the Dapper install *This is the live cd instead of the install*
[07:10] <sethk> yes
[07:10] <|thunder> ive never use ndiswrapper.
[07:10] <sethk> Tonren, yes, I tried it here before I pasted it
[07:10] <Tonren> sethk: Cool.  What about default gateway, though?  do you need to do sudo ifconfig eth0 gateway?
[07:10] <Tonren> sethk: cool
[07:11] <Tonren> |thunder: Maybe you should try ndiswrapper.  It won't involve building anything from source, which is like pulling teeth
[07:11] <mikeg> cycom: hi
[07:11] <sethk> Tonren, sudo route add default gw ###.###.###.###
[07:11] <Tonren> |thunder: Go to wiki.ubuntu.com and search for "Ndiswrapper"
[07:11] <sethk> Tonren, where ###.###.###.### is the gateway's IP address
[07:11] <{K}Lubby> hey tonren i got a problem
[07:11] <Tonren> sethk: Sweet.
[07:11] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: Aye?
[07:11] <{K}Lubby> it says SIOcSIFFLAGS: resource temporarily unnavailable
[07:12] <{K}Lubby> after i did the sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.0
[07:12] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: on what command?
[07:12] <Tonren> oh
[07:12] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: hmm.. sethk any words of wisdom?
[07:12] <sethk> {K}Lubby, do ifconfig (no arguments) and paste the results
[07:12] <{K}Lubby> you mean do sudo ifconfig?
[07:12] <sethk> {K}Lubby, eth0 is locked up for some reason
[07:12] <sethk> {K}Lubby, no sudo is necessary because you are just printing the configuration, not changing it
[07:13] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: use pastebin to paste the results and link us from here
[07:13] <{K}Lubby> uhhh theres a bunch of lines, give me a few to type them
[07:13] <Tonren> !pastebin
[07:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:13] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: just copy & paste them into pastebin and give us the link to the page.  :)
[07:13] <sethk> {K}Lubby, do this:   ifconfig > some-file-name
[07:13] <{K}Lubby> tonren, i can't do that if the ubuntu can't connect to the internet...
[07:13] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: oh snap
[07:13] <|thunder> Tonren, I am trying to install this card on a laptop for some ive crossed over to linux. she knows nothing. so I want it to be  easy. are you sure Network-Manager works with ndiswrapper ? i mean, once ndiswrapper is up and running does it function just like a native driver? As in, super easy config when swithcing APs and encryption.
[07:13] <sethk> {K}Lubby, sure you can.  use a usb stick or whatever
[07:13] <Tixer> kk, so I go to login, and I get the message after typing my password...
[07:14] <{K}Lubby> oh yeah duh seth
[07:14] <sethk> {K}Lubby, you must have something.
[07:14] <Tonren> |thunder: I'm fairly certain it does.  I had ndiswrapper running a while ago, and it worked fine with the network manager GUI.
[07:14] <sethk> {K}Lubby, if you reboot you will clear whatever has eth0 locked
[07:14] <Tixer> could not start kstartupconfig. Check your install.
[07:14] <{K}Lubby> mp3 player = flash drive > all
[07:14] <{K}Lubby> seth, i tried rebooting once
[07:14] <{K}Lubby> but i have an idea what has it locked *laughs at self*
[07:14] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: what might have it locked?
[07:14] <GoDawg1> sorry about that guys...
[07:14] <|thunder> Tonren, thank you again.
[07:14] <sethk> {K}Lubby, ok ...
[07:14] <GoDawg1> I had to reboot...
[07:15] <GoDawg1> cafuego: could you send me that wiki link you sent me last?
[07:15] <{K}Lubby> does the fact that im running ubuntu off a cd i burned from an iso file from linux.org make a difference? i mean running the live cd thingy instead of actually instlaling it
[07:15] <mikeg> Tonren: hi tonren.. can i ask u
[07:15] <GoDawg1> I want to bookmark it so I can set up a few other people's computers using that method.
[07:15] <sethk> {K}Lubby, for some things, yes.  but ifconfig should still work
[07:15] <Tonren> |thunder: You're welcome.  Remember, you'll need to run the "modprobe" command once you've installed ndiswrapper, then the driver, and you'll need to run "ndiswrapper -l" in terminal to make sure it's been installed properly.
[07:15] <{K}Lubby> so it *might* make a difference?
[07:15] <Tonren> mikeg: sup?
[07:15] <sethk> {K}Lubby, yes, it's possible
[07:15] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: it might.
[07:15] <mikeg> Tonren:  id like to ask, what to do  if my ubuntu 6.06 does not detect my SATA drive
[07:16] <sethk> {K}Lubby, I'm not saying it is likely, but it is possible
[07:16] <{K}Lubby> cause it seems like since its off a cd it would, cause you obviously can't save stuff like gateway info onto a cd once it's already burned
[07:16] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: Yea, you won't be able to edit system files like that.  But you should still be able to change network configurations
[07:16] <Tonren> mikeg: Hmmmm...
[07:16] <{K}Lubby> think i'll try doing that.... can i format/clean install ubuntu from hitting the little install button on the desktop?
[07:16] <sethk> mikeg, do lspci to find out what SATA chipset you have, then you may need to do an insmod for the kernel module for that chipset
[07:16] <mikeg> Tonren: its unknown
[07:16] <GoDawg1> cafuego: i'm sorry that request for a link was directed at you.  I didn't attach your name to it.
[07:17] <cafuego> godawg: hehe, if you don't do that, my irc client doesn't beep at me :-)
[07:17] <cafuego> GoDawgs:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[07:17] <{K}Lubby> your irc beeps at you when someone says your name?
[07:17] <el_isma> sethk: You're back :). I tried making the bridge and using route. Route just hangs, doesn't show my default route (it displays all others, no mention of eth1 either). Any idea?
[07:17] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: mine too
[07:17] <byen> hey fellas.. I broke my terminal :( my terminal open in "/" rather than home... how can i fix this.. Please help.
[07:17] <GoDawg1> cafuego: i figured that's why I sent you the message to follow up.  Thank you so much!  If I knew you better, I'd kiss ya'!
[07:17] <Tixer> whats the command to create a folder in konsole?
[07:17] <sethk> el_isma, that's could be trying to use DNS to resolve an IP to a name.  let me check route and see if that's possible
[07:17] <cafuego> eww, girls germs.
[07:17] <Tonren> mikeg: try this command:  lspci | grep -i "sata"
[07:17] <Tixer> mkdir?
[07:18] <cafuego> not to mention my wife would kill me ;-)
[07:18] <jrojas_>  de ayuda
[07:18] <mikeg> Tonren: thanks i'll this this
[07:18] <sethk> el_isma, yes.  use the -n flag with route, telling it to not try to resolve numbers to names
[07:18] <Tixer> whats the command to create a folder in konsole?
[07:18] <Tonren> mikeg: it won't fix anything - it'll just tell you what SATA driver you have
[07:18] <{K}Lubby> weird, mine doesnt (i think)
[07:18] <sethk> Tixer, mkdir
[07:18] <Tonren> Tixer: mkdir
[07:18] <{K}Lubby> someone say my name
[07:18] <sethk> my name
[07:18] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: testing
[07:18] <Tixer> so like mkdir /home/...
[07:18] <sethk> :)
[07:18] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: which client are you using?
[07:18] <Tixer> ... being a name?
[07:18] <Tonren> Tixer: mkdir home will make a directory called home
[07:19] <byen> hey fellas.. I broke my terminal :( my terminal open in "/" rather than home... how can i fix this.. Please help.
[07:19] <{K}Lubby> nope didn't do it lol
[07:19] <|thunder> Tonren, thanks again. im going to run through thiis tutorial. i might be back to pick your brain. ;p
[07:19] <{K}Lubby> and im using swifswitch irc
[07:19] <sethk> Tixer, yes, assuming /home/ exists.  You can use mkdirhier in case you are creating multiple levels at once.
[07:19] <Tonren> Does anyone know how to make Xchat blink in the taskbar (to sent the "ALERT" signal) when it beeps?
[07:19] <el_isma> sethk: so, I should set the bridge again, and do route -n, and see what I get?
[07:19] <Tonren> |thunder: I'm headin out soon, but I"m sure you'll be able to find someone who can help!
[07:19] <sethk> el_isma, yes
[07:19] <Tixer> thats the problem
[07:19] <el_isma> sethk: ok, brb
[07:19] <Tixer> home doesn't exist
[07:19] <sethk> el_isma, I may get called away again...
[07:19] <|thunder> cool.
[07:19] <Tixer> hence kstartup dying
[07:19] <mikeg> Tonren: no results
[07:20] <azureal> byen: what do you mean by 'broke'
[07:20] <azureal> byen: what did you do
[07:20] <{K}Lubby> is usa west coast gmt -8 or -7 right now?
[07:20] <sethk> {K}Lubby, 8
[07:20] <{K}Lubby> k
[07:20] <byen> azrael0, i do not know.. my terminal just starts into "/" and not in home..
[07:21] <{K}Lubby> for ubuntu install, it says select a city in my timezone and country... what if i can't find one lol?
[07:21] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: Ignore that crap, it messes up later anyway.
[07:21] <sethk> byen, it starts in your home directory.  You can look at your home directory by dumping out /etc/passwd
[07:21] <mitch_> {K}Lubby, 7, 8 after daylight savings
[07:21] <{K}Lubby> k
[07:21] <{K}Lubby> that would explain why los angeles which is in my timezone showed up as gmt -7
[07:22] <byen> sethk, you men delete /etc/passwd?
[07:22] <sethk> byen, no, cat /etc/passwd
[07:22] <Tixer> I have a huge problem
[07:22] <sethk> byen, to see what your home directory is set to
[07:22] <Tixer> I need a space bar
[07:22] <|thunder> Tonren, what does this mean ? "Used ndiswrapper -i WLINPDS.INF on Debian Sarge for the Linksys driver. Worked perfectly."
[07:22] <Tixer> how do I create a space
[07:22] <sethk> byen, deleting /etc/passwd would be a very bad thing to do  :)
[07:23] <byen> oh
[07:23] <byen> ::O
[07:23] <Tixer> ALT-32 doesn't work
[07:23] <sethk> Tixer, usually ' '   (either single quote space single quote, or double quote space double quote)
[07:23] <sethk> Tixer, on a command line
[07:23] <Tixer> I don't have a space bar
[07:23] <Tixer> yeah
[07:23] <xelados> Could someone help me figure out "xset"'s usage?
[07:23] <sethk> Tixer, you don't have a space bar?  what do you have?
[07:23] <mikeg> sethk: how to use insmod?
[07:23] <Tixer> a broken one
[07:23] <Tixer> I
[07:24] <xelados> I manpage'd it and it referred me to X(7), but I can't view that manpage.
[07:24] <el_isma> sethk: It didn't work :'(
[07:24] <Tixer> 've been pressing ctrl v all this time
[07:24] <xelados> It says it's undocumented.
[07:24] <Tonren> |thunder: That means ... wait... are you the person trying to use a null modem cable to connect two computers, or trying to get wireless working by building the driver from source, but i suggested to use ndiswrapper?
[07:24] <|thunder> wireless / ndiswrapper
[07:24] <sethk> mikeg, if you know the module to insert, it is easy.  actually, use modprobe instead.   modprobe knows what directory to look in
[07:24] <Tixer> how do I generate a space in terminal
[07:24] <sethk> mikeg, do you know what module to insert?
[07:24] <Tixer> without using the space bar
[07:25] <el_isma> sethk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20254
[07:25] <Tonren> |thunder: OK, what have you done so far?
[07:25] <Tixer> anyone?
[07:25] <{K}Lubby> okay, ubuntu is installing
[07:25] <Tonren> Tixer: copy & paste one
[07:25] <mikeg> sethk: im not sure what module to insert. i just want my SATA drive to be detected
[07:25] <Tixer> is there some numerical code to type?
[07:25] <Tonren> Tixer: here: " "
[07:25] <Tonren> Tixer: Highlight the apce, Ctrl + C to copy, enter terminal, Ctrl + Shift + V to paste
[07:25] <Tixer> I can't copy it from windows to ubuntu
[07:25] <CheetahMk2> If I have to recompile the kernel, do I need the full source, or do I just need the headers?
[07:25] <Tonren> Tixer: eep
[07:25] <azureal> actually, i'm not sure where you can change the directory you are presented with when you start bash =/
[07:25] <byen> sethk, can you see this and tell me if this is ok? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20255
[07:25] <Tixer> ubuntu = virtual
[07:25] <sethk> el_isma, the default route destination is br0 instead of eth0.  try deleting that route and adding the original route
[07:26] <sethk> byen, looking
[07:26] <byen> ty sethk :D
[07:26] <el_isma> sethk: ok. Should I have br0 with dhclient? or eth0? or both?
[07:26] <Tonren> Tixer: Why can't you use the space bar?
[07:26] <sethk> byen, your home directory is correct, it is set to /home/byen
[07:26] <mitch_> mikeg, did you do lspci to determin SATA controller?
[07:26] <sethk> byen, why do you think it isn't starting you there?  did you do   pwd    at the prompt after starting the terminal?
[07:26] <Tonren> mtich_: It didn't show up for him.
[07:27] <Tonren> mitch_: I had him do lspci | grep -i "sata" and nothing showed up
[07:27] <Tixer> I spilt milk on it
[07:27] <Tonren> Tixer: lol, that sux... hmmmm
[07:27] <Tixer> while watching anime
[07:27] <Tixer> ascii codes don't work in linux
[07:27] <Pyromaniak> how do I change the <Applications> icon? I prefer blue stuff, and I'd like use the kubuntu icon
[07:27] <mikeg> mitch_: wait i'll try it again.. thanks
[07:27] <byen> sethk, this happened when i typed this into the terminsl
[07:27] <byen> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20255
[07:27] <byen> no no
[07:27] <byen> wait
[07:27] <mikeg> Tonren: thanks tonren i'll be back
[07:27] <byen> sethk, i typed this ftp://ftp.linux.ncsu.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/os/Fedora/RPMS/redhat-artwork-0.245-1.fc6.i386.rpm
[07:28] <byen> and after that it changed
[07:28] <RancidLM> hey im trying to install paralles workstation.. but its using the wrong gcc version when compiling my kernel module.. (its using 3.4) how do i set it to use gcc-4.0  iv tried : set CC=gcc-4.0   but that doesn't work.. suggestions?
[07:28] <Tixer> please tell me I'm not fucked
[07:28] <sethk> byen, that's a fedora (== red hat) package.
[07:28] <Tonren> |thunder: you there?
[07:28] <Tixer> I really wanna boot
[07:28] <{K}Lubby> about how long does ubuntu take to install on a computer?
[07:28] <sethk> byen, you typed that where?
[07:28] <|thunder> Tonren, YA, SORRY
[07:28] <Tixer> isn't there some command for an OSK?
[07:28] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: half an hour, i guess?
[07:29] <el_isma> {K}Lubby depends on hardware
[07:29] <|thunder> Tonren, whoops, didnt mean to yell
[07:29] <Tonren> |thunder: What've ou done so far
[07:29] <{K}Lubby> heh, ownage
[07:29] <{K}Lubby> windows xp takes like 1-2 hours to install
[07:29] <{K}Lubby> and this is on a 800mhz celeron with 512mb ram
[07:29] <el_isma> {K}Lubby then you've got a slow HD
[07:29] <jack|ass> Any of you set up a dial-up (modem) server with ubuntu?  Is there a package that'll do most of the setup work for my lazy ass?
[07:29] <|thunder> i just realized there is a graphical installer for ndiswrapper. ndisgtk
[07:29] <{K}Lubby> ....yeah...
[07:29] <Tixer> blargh.
[07:29] <{K}Lubby> im just guessing at 1-2 hours
[07:29] <el_isma> {K}Lubby well... it's mostly that... the speed of you HD....
[07:29] <Tixer> I require a space bar
[07:30] <{K}Lubby> yeah
[07:30] <AngryElf> i really dont mean to complain -- but why have the ubuntu package servers been so incredibly slow as of late?
[07:30] <{K}Lubby> meh, it says 7 minutes remaing
[07:30] <byen> sethk, in the terminalk
[07:30] <el_isma> Try using a mirror, AngryElf
[07:30] <|thunder> Tonren, im going to give this a shot.
[07:30] <sethk> AngryElf, everyone in the world is trying to update at the same time
[07:30] <azureal> Tixer: rofl
[07:30] <RancidLM> any idea's any one?
[07:30] <Tixer> isn't there an on screen keyboard in ubuntu?
[07:30] <el_isma> sethk: Should I have br0 with dhclient? or eth0? or both?
[07:30] <Pyromaniak> Tonren: is there a basic "everything you ever wanted to know about ubuntu, but didn't know the questions to ask" kinda guide?
[07:30] <sethk> byen, that wouldn't really do anything typed into a terminal
[07:30] <Tonren> |thunder: ndiswrapper -i "somefile.inf" installed the wireless driver associated with that .inf file
[07:30] <AngryElf> what's a mirror for security.ubuntu.com?
[07:30] <|thunder> Tonren, i jsut have the windows driver and im installing ndis from the ubuntu CD. well trying to. the apt-cd dialog didnt pop-up
[07:31] <azureal> Tixer: you do realize how this sounds? spilling "milk" while watching "anime"
[07:31] <Tixer> I do
[07:31] <Tixer> I was eating fucking cheerios
[07:31] <jrojas> hi, i need record a video from my desktop, what is the linux alternative to "Camtasia Studio" ? :S
[07:31] <sethk> el_isma, not with dhclient.  I wanted to just try setting the route, to see if you get internet back
[07:31] <{K}Lubby> azureal: shut up?
[07:31] <Tonren> Pyromaniak: http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/ also maybe http://tips.linux.com/tips/06/06/08/1651225.shtml?tid=50&tid=92&tid=96
[07:31] <{K}Lubby> lol
[07:31] <|thunder> Tonren, im sorry. im asking questions that i out not. i just need to read.
[07:31] <sethk> el_isma, I don't want to reconfigure anything else, otherwise we won't know what caused what
[07:31] <el_isma> sethk ok, so I don't do a dhclient for any interface?
[07:31] <Tixer> theres gotta be an alt code for ubuntu
[07:31] <Tixer> or an OSK
[07:32] <sethk> byen, and, especially, that wouldn't change anything that would happen if you start a new terminal
[07:32] <azureal> lol tixer...how are you making spaces atm?
[07:32] <sethk> byen, just typing a url at the terminal prompt should do exactly nothing.
[07:32] <HeXiOn> helo
[07:32] <HeXiOn> hello
[07:32] <{K}Lubby> hi
[07:32] <{K}Lubby> hi
[07:32] <Tonren> |thunder: Are you using the Live CD or is it installed?
[07:32] <HeXiOn> :P
[07:32] <|thunder> Tonren, installed.
[07:32] <HeXiOn> I need to run a program as a daemon
[07:32] <azureal> tixer: what might suck is if you need to install a package, but you won't be able to type "apt-get install" because there's a space lol
[07:32] <HeXiOn> how can I do it?
[07:32] <xyblor> Hi, how do I get the automounter to run during the boot sequence?
[07:33] <HeXiOn> (it's irxevent, a part or LIRC)
[07:33] <Tixer> I am
[07:33] <Tixer> I copy/paste em in
[07:33] <Tonren> |thunder: The idea here is to install ndiswrapper, which is a utility that takes windows (native) drivers and plugs them into Linux
[07:33] <xelados> okay sweet, I figured out xset. How do I make my changes stick to Xorg?
[07:33] <Tixer> I can copy a space once I'm in ubuntu
[07:33] <Tixer> I'm at the login now
[07:34] <Tonren> |thunder: Once you have ndiswraper, you get the drivers that match your wireless card, and then you install them using the ndiswrapper -i command
[07:34] <Tixer> and I can't copy from terminal
[07:34] <xyblor> I already configured the files, I just need automount to run at boot time.
[07:34] <|thunder> 74107410
[07:34] <Tonren> |thunder: ??
[07:34] <hubba42> hey, can anyone help me out with a parted problem?
[07:34] <|thunder> sry, thought i was in calc
[07:34] <sethk> xelados, there is a file you can add them to, I believe it is .xinitrc, but let me check
[07:35] <xelados> okay, thanks.
[07:35] <azureal> Tixer: look into gtkeyboard
[07:35] <Dravas> Uhh I have Intergrated nVidia graphics and I was wondering if I should install the nvidia drivers and switch to them
[07:35] <HeXiOn> does someone know how to run a executable as a daemon? (or just re-execute it automaticly when it crashes)
[07:35] <Tixer> holy shit
[07:35] <|thunder> Tonren, i have to move the driver over with a flash drive. it'll take a sec
[07:35] <xyblor> Is there an Ubuntu equivalent to Gentoo's rc-update?
[07:35] <Tixer> I can't run gtkeyboard till I'm logged in
[07:35] <Tonren> xyblor: what's rc-update do?
[07:36] <Pntkl> private
[07:36] <Tonren> HeXiOn: are you in GNOME?
[07:36] <azureal> Tixer: er, it also might not be installed yet either
[07:36] <cafuego> xyblor:  update-rc.d
[07:36] <Tixer> there you go
[07:36] <HeXiOn> xyblor, I think not, I was looking for it last week
[07:36] <Tixer> how can I install it without being logged in
[07:36] <HeXiOn> Tonren, yes I am
[07:36] <Tonren> HeXiOn: if so, System -> Preferences -> Sessions
[07:36] <azureal> what do you mean, logged in?
[07:36] <cafuego> You'll find rc-update is the equivalent, not the other way around ;-)
[07:36] <xyblor> cfuego: Thank you!
[07:36] <Tixer> I can't do sudo apt-get
[07:36] <azureal> you can't?
[07:37] <Tonren> HeXiOn: Then go to the Current Session tab, select the application that is currently open, and change the "Style" dropdown to "Restart"
[07:37] <byen> sethk, that is all i did mate and now i am stuck withthis.. i dont even know where to start or if this really effect the system in anywys
[07:37] <azureal> Tixer: maybe you could "su" then?
[07:37] <Dravas> Uhh I have Intergrated nVidia graphics and I was wondering if I should install the nvidia drivers and switch to them
[07:37] <Tonren> HeXiOn: don't forget to Apply before you hit OK
[07:37] <sethk> Dravas, not unless something isn't working the way you want it to
[07:37] <Dravas> ok
[07:38] <Tixer> I can't SU
[07:38] <HeXiOn> Tonren, but that affects to the current session... if I restart the program doesn't restart if it crashes.. do it?
[07:38] <Tixer> to login, I just need to type mkdir /home/user
[07:38] <|thunder> Tonren, does modprobe need any parameters after install of ndiswrawpper with synaptic?
[07:38] <hubba42> has anyone used parted to partition a disk to only have it not show up in fdisk?  anyone know how to fix that?  im trying to install linux manually from a live cd and lilo freaks out when it sees the partition map that fdisk uses
[07:39] <pushpop> For a New User like my self to the Ubuntu world, How would I learn or correct my xorg.conf because I am unable to startX ?
[07:39] <Tonren> HeXiOn: I'm not sure how it handles CRASHes... but changing it to "Restart" Is supposed to make sure it always runs
[07:39] <Tonren> HeXiOn: also you might want to look into the "daemon" package
[07:39] <Tonren> !info daemon
[07:39] <el_isma> sethk: Ok. Now I'm officially frustrated :'(
[07:39] <HeXiOn> Tonren, even after rebooting? changes the "mode" of that exec. between sessions?
[07:39] <ubotu> daemon: turns other processes into daemons. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.6.3-1 (dapper), package size 97 kB, installed size 300 kB
[07:40] <{K}Lubby> can someone give me a link to where i download all the free ubuntu programs?
[07:40] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: apt-cache search <insert-name-of-application-here>
[07:40] <hubba42> spt-get install your-mom
[07:40] <Tonren> HeXiOn: It should, yes.  When you save a session, it stays that way forever
[07:40] <el_isma> {K}Lubby: use synaptic / aptitude / adept
[07:40] <{K}Lubby> Tonren: i thought it was a website?
[07:40] <el_isma> you pick :P
[07:40] <HeXiOn> Tonren, ok, I'll try the first and late look into daemon package
[07:40] <lxe> ubuntu-forums is a good place for apps
[07:40] <HeXiOn> Tonren, thanks a lot :)
[07:40] <{K}Lubby> somewhere on linux.org...
[07:41] <pushpop> For a New User like my self to the Ubuntu world, How would I learn or correct my xorg.conf because I am unable to startX ?
[07:41] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: nah, use Synaptic
[07:41] <lxe> you can ask us for advice on any particular application
[07:41] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: Go to Applications -> Add / Remove Programs
[07:41] <{K}Lubby> okay why?
[07:41] <Tonren> HeXiOn: good luck!
[07:41] <xelados> Ack.
[07:41] <HeXiOn> thanks ;) bye
[07:41] <el_isma> Tonren: I agree, synaptic is the best one... :) (even though I run kde)
[07:41] <xelados> X-chat's being weird.
[07:41] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: It's a list of thousands of free programs that you can install just by checking them off
[07:41] <odat> pushpop, terminal    dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:41] <{K}Lubby> oh
[07:41] <Tonren> el_isma: I never use the GUI, myself
[07:41] <xelados> Tab doesn't autocomplete nicks
[07:41] <xelados> :<
[07:41] <{K}Lubby> is it the same as the ones at www.linux.org/apps/ ?
[07:41] <pushpop> odat: Just type that command?
[07:42] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: probably not, but it's pretty huge anyway
[07:42] <Oswyn> can anyone point me to a document describing how ubuntus hardware detection works?
[07:42] <el_isma> Tonren: don't you like aptitude? It even has games XD
[07:42] <odat> pushpop, sudo first
[07:42] <Tonren> el_isma: hehe no doubt
[07:42] <{K}Lubby> sweet
[07:42] <Pyromaniak> wine: creating configuration directory '/home/firestarter/.wine'...
[07:42] <Pyromaniak> wine: cannot find 'rundll32.exe'
[07:42] <Pyromaniak> wine: wineprefixcreate failed while creating '/home/firestarter/.wine'.
[07:42] <odat> is the .1 update available through synaptic?
[07:42] <{K}Lubby> and does ubuntu need stuff like antivirus?
[07:42] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: lol, nope
[07:42] <pushpop> odat: new install how do I set a password for sudo/root
[07:42] <{K}Lubby> didn't think so ;O
[07:42] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: There might be.. three viruses in existence for linux.  ever.  MAYBE.
[07:42] <sanmarcos> can anybody print me the /etc/issue here?
[07:42] <sanmarcos> default
[07:42] <{K}Lubby> cause my friend is always bragging to me about how his stupid mac is immune to viruses
[07:43] <odat> pushpop, you set it during installation
[07:43] <Tixer> w00000t
[07:43] <Tixer> success
[07:43] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: trust me dude, you are now more immune
[07:43] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: immuner, if you will
[07:43] <{K}Lubby> Tonren: yeah i figured :lol: hackers only target noob xp users
[07:43] <pushpop> odat: ? I created a user?
[07:43] <Tonren> Tixer: how'd you do it?
[07:43] <Tixer> I have logged in!
[07:43] <cafuego> {K}Lubby: it is, but slightly less so that Linux (viruses for Office on Mac don't work on Linux ;-)
[07:43] <azureal> {K}Lubby, haha... i have a friend just like that
[07:43] <pushpop> odat: thats all
[07:43] <{K}Lubby> i'm now more immuner? lol thats a good one
[07:43] <Tixer> copied a space from the font change thing
[07:43] <odat> pushpop, same password
[07:43] <toxicfume> hi all
[07:43] <Tonren> Tixer: rofl... resourceful
[07:43] <el_isma> {K}Lubby: Indeed, only if you run unknown programs as root you'll have trouble... otherwise, you're pretty safe
[07:43] <odat> anyone know about the .1 update?
[07:43] <Tixer> thanks to that stupid brown fox....
[07:44] <{K}Lubby> also, is it hard to find stuff like limewire and other windows programs for ubuntu?
[07:44] <toxicfume> can someone please help me with partitioning? I already have ubuntu installed on a 3GB partition, but now I guess I need more capacity and i've tried increasing the capacity but it just wont work, can someone please help me? thanks
[07:44] <azureal> hopeless...
[07:44] <lxe> sudo apt-get install limewire
[07:44] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: wine MIGHT run them, I don't know about filesahre apps myself since I just use bittorrent
[07:44] <Tonren> lxe: no way, it's native?  sweet
[07:45] <lxe> well try it
[07:45] <azureal> ubuntu, or linux in general  != windows
[07:45] <{K}Lubby> so wine is a program that makes windows programs run on linux?
[07:45] <Tixer> sometimes
[07:45] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: It's a program that ATTEMPTS to do so
[07:45] <{K}Lubby> well yeah
[07:45] <Tixer> basic programs work best
[07:45] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: sometimes works, often does not
[07:45] <cafuego> {K}Lubby: there's 'amule'  for the edonkey network and azureus for bittorrent. Dunno about limewire... people still use that?
[07:45] <{K}Lubby> does it come with it, or do i have to download it?
[07:45] <lxe> nevermind
[07:45] <azureal> {K}Lubby,  search for different solutions; usually they work better ;)
[07:45] <lxe> no limewire
[07:45] <lumgwada> toxicfume: I know it help to run a scandisk on your windows partition before resizing helps
[07:45] <sanmarcos> can anybody print me your /etc/issue file for me?
[07:45] <odat> {K}Lubby, i use frostwire
[07:45] <{K}Lubby> cafuego: ROFL limewire is only like the most popular windows xp file sharing program
[07:46] <Tonren> sanmarcos: Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS \n \l
[07:46] <{K}Lubby> and i was just using it as an example, idc about it since i still have my main computer (brand new i might add)
[07:46] <sanmarcos> Tonren, thank you sir
[07:46] <toxicfume> lumgwada: I need more critical help than that :P but thanks ! :)
[07:46] <xelados> frostwire can be downloaded for Linux.
[07:46] <Tixer> cause alot of n00bs use it
[07:46] <xelados> I couldn't get it to install, though.
[07:46] <{K}Lubby> its not even a month old :D
[07:46] <cafuego> {K}Lubby: Hmmyeah, I don't share files much. (only Ubuntu packages,and they're free anyway)
[07:46] <azureal> {K}Lubby,  yay, a month old computer that is beginning to take on viruses!
[07:47] <aeread> im trying to mv a bunch of .folders from my backup into my home, but its saying it cant overwrite some of them ... ive tried -f to force it ... any tips?
[07:47] <sethk> toxicfume, rather than trying to expand your partition, just created an additional partition to give yourself more space
[07:47] <odat> does anyone know about the .1 update?
[07:47] <Tonren> aeread: what about sudo?
[07:47] <{K}Lubby> heh, ubuntu's done installing already
[07:47] <el_isma2> sethk: Well... I give up... the bridge beat me :(
[07:47] <aeread> im am
[07:47] <cafuego> {K}Lubby: Ah, limewire is a gnutella client; year, there are Linux apps for that network.
[07:47] <aeread> err wait
[07:47] <azureal> {K}Lubby, yea, ubuntu install is like 9x faster than gentoo install
[07:47] <pushpop> odat: I did that now I get (EE) No Devices Detected ?
[07:48] <lxe> try torrent clients
[07:48] <aeread> im not, ill try
[07:48] <sethk> el_isma2, I'll have to look more carefully at what the bridge program does at the lower levels
[07:48] <lxe> or amule
[07:48] <toxicfume> sethk: but that wont always work too well, because over time in linux u need a lot of system files which are best to install in the root partition no?
[07:48] <el_isma2> sethk: Thank you very much for all your help
[07:48] <odat> cafuego, frostwire is the best   it looks just like limewire   with all the limewire pro features
[07:48] <rellim> anyone here know how the cherokee web server stacks up to apache?
[07:48] <{K}Lubby> is limewire pro any good?
[07:48] <lumgwada> toxicfume: sorry for being vague I had a similar issue a while back with partitioning that was resolved with a scandisk
[07:48] <odat> pushpop, do you know anything about your computer?
[07:48] <toxicfume> lumgwada: ohh okay
[07:48] <aeread> Tonren: even as root it doesnt work
[07:48] <sethk> toxicfume, in general that's probably true.  you can get around it with symlinks, or with the system that aggregates physical partitions into virtual partitions
[07:49] <pushpop> odat: yes, I selected my video card and monitor settings
[07:49] <Tonren> aeread: paste exact error plz
[07:49] <sethk> toxicfume, trying to modify partitions in place is risky and doesn't always work.
[07:49] <cafuego> odat: Like I said, I need no filesharing apps.
[07:49] <odat> pushpop, for montor setting what did you use  the simple selection?
[07:49] <sethk> toxicfume, of course, you can back up the partition, create a new, larger one, and restore to it.
[07:49] <aeread> "mv: cannot overwrite directory '/home/bung/.confg'" etc...
[07:49] <lxe> sudo mv?
[07:49] <pushpop> odat: it autodetected the correct model monitor
[07:50] <toxicfume> The problem I'm having with my ubuntu partition is that I already have some unallocated space on my darive, but for some reason i cannot increase the capacity of the Ubuntu partition using that unallocated space, i dont understand why. The partitioning program simply doesn't give me that option.
[07:50] <aeread> lxe, i happen to be root
[07:50] <sethk> aeread, you can't use mv to clobber a read only file even if you happen to be root
[07:50] <odat> pushpop, yea but when it asked for a resolution setting like 15, 17 or 19 inch monitor
[07:50] <sethk> aeread, you can use cp, then delete the original one
[07:50] <lxe> oh my bad
[07:50] <lxe> chmod it?
[07:50] <pushpop> odat: dont recall ill try again
[07:50] <sethk> aeread, or, you can rm the file before trying the mv  (remove the file by the same name in the target directory)
[07:50] <toxicfume> sethk: but then i would have to configure GRUB and everything again no?
[07:50] <{K}Lubby> heh nice, ubuntu basically has two passwords since it doesnt show your username like windows does
[07:50] <aeread> sethk: there are alot, i dont want to remove
[07:50] <aeread> but ill try to cp
[07:51] <sethk> toxicfume, no, as long as the designation of the /boot directory hasn't changed
[07:51] <el_isma2> Anybody knows how to make energy saving play nice? When I'm watching a movie I'd hope the monitor would stay on! I have to go to the control panel and disable it. (Running KDE... maybe this is not the place?)
[07:51] <aeread> thanks cp works
[07:51] <sethk> aeread, cp -f will work.  Of course, I'm assuming you know that it is safe to clobber all these things.  :)
[07:51] <cafuego> {K}Lubby: Not by default anyway.
[07:51] <azureal> {K}Lubby, you could make windows not show usernames either....
[07:51] <cafuego> {K}Lubby: You *can* make it list users accounts on the login screen.
[07:51] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: you can configure ubuntu to display usernames
[07:51] <{K}Lubby> oh well doesnt matter
[07:51] <{K}Lubby> i like it this way lol
[07:51] <toxicfume> sethk: designation of /boot? what does that mean?
[07:52] <pushpop> odat: ok chose 19" now its saying "No Screens Found"
[07:52] <Pyromaniak> is the 0.9.18 version of wine really that bad compared to the current?
[07:52] <{K}Lubby> and a pass to do "admin tasks"
[07:52] <Tonren> Pyromaniak: I though that was current
[07:52] <pushpop> odat: Fatal IO error  104
[07:52] <sethk> toxicfume, if your /boot is currently in /dev/hda1, for example, and you back up, create a new partition that is /dev/hda1, and restore to it, nothing in grub will need to be changed
[07:52] <Pyromaniak> their website sais 0.9.19
[07:52] <odat> pushpop, how are you doing any commands if you can't see anything?
[07:52] <eugman> ANyone know how to erase alpha from a layer in gimp?
[07:52] <{K}Lubby> NOOO
[07:52] <sethk> toxicfume, the fact that /dev/hda1 is now a different size won't matter
[07:52] <azureal> i actually don't like ubuntu's whole !root system
[07:52] <Tonren> eugman: wrong channel
[07:53] <{K}Lubby> im still having that beeping problem with setting up the LAN
[07:53] <pushpop> odat: I run  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it brings up the screens where I can choose settings?
[07:53] <sethk> toxicfume, on the other hand, if you moved stuff around so that /boot was on /dev/hda1, and is now on /dev/hda2 (for example), that would require changes to the grub config
[07:53] <toxicfume> sethk: I'm pretty comfortable with partition (i've done a lot of it) and i'm confident it wont screw up. But the only problem I'm having with my ubuntu partition is that I already have some unallocated space on my darive, but for some reason i cannot increase the capacity of the Ubuntu partition using that unallocated space, i dont understand why. The partitioning program simply doesn't give me that option.
[07:53] <toxicfume> sethk: ohh okay
[07:53] <eugman> Tonren, worth a shot. Gimp channel is dead and I'm running gimp off of ubuntu.
[07:53] <odat> pushpop, do you have multiple video connections?
[07:53] <Tonren> eugman: fair enough; someone had to say it. ;P
[07:53] <KrisW> I just did an apt-get dist-upgrade and it seems like I'm still in breezy, how do I tell if the upgrade worked?
[07:53] <{K}Lubby> okay, can someone give me some help?
[07:53] <visik7> Pyromaniak: what's the problem with wine 0.9.18 ?
[07:54] <eugman> In that case, anyone know how to switch channel view in irssi?
[07:54] <lxe> {K}Lubby: what
[07:54] <sethk> toxicfume, the partitioning program can't increase the size of an existing partition.  there are other programs that can, however.  gparted is one that people recommend
[07:54] <pushpop> odat: I have a X800gto2 It has DVI and Svideo
[07:54] <{K}Lubby> lxe: figuring out what's wrong with this thign
[07:54] <el_isma2> KrisW: reboot? I don't really know
[07:54] <pushpop> Odat: I just have the VGA from the monitor plugged in
[07:54] <KrisW> yeah I rebooted
[07:54] <odat> pushpop, sounds like you have the monitor plugged in the wrong port
[07:54] <lxe> {K}Lubby: sorry, enter key was in the way. Wht's your issue again?
[07:54] <KrisW> that's why I'm confused
[07:54] <{K}Lubby> hey tonren or sethk, wanna try helping me again now that i have ubuntu installed and it's still got the same problem?
[07:54] <toxicfume> sethk: no this program i am using usually can..but i dont know why, for this partition it does not give me the option (nor the reason)
[07:54] <xelados> sethk: Any luck finding that .xinitrc?
[07:54] <KrisW> I thought something would happen heh
[07:54] <pushpop> odat: Its in the VGA port?
[07:54] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: what was the prob?
[07:54] <lxe> yes
[07:54] <el_isma2> KrisW: if you reboot, it should show you the new kernel (Ie: a linuxOLD entry or something like that)
[07:55] <sethk> toxicfume, I don't know, either, unless there is something about the layout of the existing partitions
[07:55] <pushpop> odat: I know how to plug a monitor in =)
[07:55] <el_isma2> KrisW: I meant, it should show you the new kernel and the old one
[07:55] <{K}Lubby> Tonren: remember, it wouldn't let me modify my static ip settings so i could connect my ubuntu to my xp
[07:55] <lumgwada> toxicfume: are you using qtparted?
[07:55] <mikeg> sethk: hi sethk i have made the commands already the lspci | grep-i "sata" and it return IDE Technologies, In.c VT8251 AHCI/SATA 4-port controller
[07:55] <sethk> toxicfume, I don't know what program you are using.  None of the linux partitioning programs allow resizing partitions.
[07:55] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: snap.. sorry dude, i'm like braindead right now.  you'll have to hunt for another helper
[07:55] <{K}Lubby> with the "could not enable the interface eth0" error when i try to activate it
[07:55] <KrisW> el
[07:55] <{K}Lubby> sethk could you try helping me? (or anyone else smart ;O)
[07:55] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: while you wait for help in here, use google, / wiki.ubuntu.com / ubuntuforums.org
[07:55] <KrisW> el_isma, I didn't see anyting like that
[07:55] <toxicfume> sethk: i guess that's where it's at, the layout of the existing partition, but i just dont know how to correct that.
[07:55] <sethk> mikeg, ok, first question is, does the kernel have support for that chipset
[07:56] <mikeg> sethk: what will i do next , after i have determined the controller
[07:56] <odat> pushpop, better check because you prolly have two spots you could plug into
[07:56] <lxe> {K}Lubby: did you try network-admin?
[07:56] <toxicfume> sethk: I'm using a program in windows xp actually (i'm aware of the fact that i might have to update grub after the partitioning in windows is finished)
[07:56] <el_isma2> KrisW: that's weird... I think that when you upgrade the old kernel still shows up
[07:56] <{K}Lubby> yeah lxe, that's the only thing i've tried (or know to try... im a complete ubuntu noob)
[07:56] <mikeg> sethk: how to know if this chipset r supported?
[07:56] <sethk> mikeg, we need to find the name of the kernel module that supports that chipset (if it exists)
[07:56] <el_isma2> lxe: where's network-admin?
[07:56] <KrisW> el_isma, there's a good possibility that I just don't know what I'm looking for
[07:56] <pushpop> odat: the blue VGA cable is plugged into the blue VGA port on the video card.
[07:56] <lxe> {K}Lubby : and what happened after?
[07:57] <mikeg> sethk:  how to find the kernel module then?
[07:57] <sethk> mikeg, I would start by looking in the Documentation subdirectory of the kernel source tree.  a google search is also sometimes helpful.
[07:57] <KrisW> well, I tried apt-get dist-upgrade again and it picked up where it left off
[07:57] <lxe> el_isma2: just type in network-admin
[07:57] <KrisW> so maybe it didn't finish last time
[07:57] <Tonren> i've gotta run, folks
[07:57] <Tonren> g'night all
[07:57] <KrisW> last time it timed out on samba-common
[07:57] <mikeg> sethk: actually i havent installed yet ubuntu in my box.
[07:57] <ricperry-ubuntu-> does anyone know of a way to install XAMPP (LAMPP) after installing Ubuntu Desktop 6.06?
[07:57] <KrisW> so maybe the time-out caused it to not upgrade?
[07:57] <odat> pushpop, the reason i am saying this is because if you have a add in video card then your probably have two different ports you monitor could go into too
[07:57] <{K}Lubby> lxe: i click the ethernet connection, hit properties, choose static ip, put in the settings i need for it to connect to my windows xp computer using crossover ethernet cable, hit okay, then hit the activate button *ping* then the error comes up
[07:58] <pushpop> odat: the X800 is PCI Express, is PCI:1:0:0 the right identifier for PCI express?
[07:58] <el_isma2> KrisW maybe
[07:58] <mikeg> sethk:  ihave an amd 64 processor, with new specs hardware..
[07:58] <el_isma2> KrisW I think that if it can't download all needed packages, it does nothing
[07:58] <lxe> {K}Lubby: try ifconfig and see what it says
[07:58] <{K}Lubby> lxe: the error says this "could not enable the interface eth0. check that the settings are correct for the network and that the computer is correctly connected to it."
[07:58] <sethk> mikeg, the number 8251 doesn't occur in the kernel doc directory, which is discouraging.  it might be there with a different name or number, though.
[07:58] <el_isma2> ricperry-ubuntu- Have you searched the wiki? I think there was something about LAMP there
[07:59] <sethk> mikeg, that hardware might well be a bit ahead of the kernel.
[07:59] <josie> i'm having trouble configuring my soundcard
[07:59] <{K}Lubby> lxe, do you want me to copy and past what ifconfig says, transfer it to my other computer with a flash drive or something, and put it on the internet for you to see?
[07:59] <sethk> mike-e, I checked 2.6.15.6.  that's not the latest, so there is still hope.
[07:59] <josie> i've got two, and they both appear in gnome-sound-properties
[07:59] <CVirus> guys I enabled backports and apt-get still wants to fetch an old version of wine .. what could be wrong ?
[07:59] <odat> pushpop, that should be fine
[07:59] <josie> but when i change cards in the dropdown, and hit close, and open it up again, it's back at the default
[08:00] <el_isma2> KrisW: To know which kernel are you running, do a "cat /proc/version". Dapper has 2.6.15.
[08:00] <josie> anything i'm missing?
[08:00] <{K}Lubby> lxe: do you want me to copy and past what ifconfig says, transfer it to my other computer with a flash drive or something, and put it on the internet for you to see?
[08:00] <el_isma2> CVirus have you enabled the "official" wine rep?
[08:00] <pushpop> odat: wanna ssh in hhaha
[08:00] <sethk> mike-e, I'm downloading 2.6.17.8, but it is a 39 meg download so it will take a while
[08:00] <CVirus> el_isma2: nope .. what is that ?
[08:00] <lxe> {K}Lubby: no, bt does it state the correct ip addresses? or just the error message?
[08:01] <el_isma2> CVirus: Add: "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main" to your sources.list (/etc/apt/sources.list)
[08:01] <mikeg> sethk: what to do next if i have known the kernel?
[08:01] <{K}Lubby> lxe: err.... where does it state the correct ip address, and what is the error message?
[08:01] <CVirus> el_isma2: why would I do that ? isnt wine in universe backports ?
[08:01] <ricperry-ubuntu-> el_isma2, I've seen the stuff about LAMP, but I'm looking for an easier way.  I figured since XAMPP comes in the server distro it should be pretty easy, but on the server disk, I can't find a .deb that installs it.  For that matter, I can't even find XAMPP on the server disk.  It's just an option at install time.
[08:01] <lxe> {K}Lubby: and try every option, even using dhcp on network-admin
[08:01] <toxicfume> sethk: okay lets say i copy my entire / from my current partition to a new/bigger partition..how do I make it so that the new partition will also be /dev/hda4 (which it is right now)?
[08:01] <el_isma2> CVirus then do: apt-get update, or just go to synaptic or whatever you use and refresh
[08:02] <el_isma2> CVirus: I think the latest ones are there...
[08:02] <sethk> mikeg, if we find a kernel module that supports that chipset, we would use it in a modprobe command to load it.
[08:02] <{K}Lubby> lxe: i've tried dhcp, but no go, cause dhcp needs a dhcp server... and my xp computer doesnt have one
[08:02] <mikeg> ahh ok
[08:02] <CVirus> el_isma2: isnt the latest wine in universe backports ?
[08:02] <el_isma2> CVirus I don't know. Which version is there?
[08:03] <lxe> {K}Lubby: were you able to connect to the network with ubuntu before?
[08:03] <CVirus> el_isma2: no idea ... apt-get is fetching the universe version 0.9.9 ... not the universe backports one
[08:03] <CVirus> el_isma: I need the universe backports one
[08:03] <josie> anyone have any idea how to set the default sound card?
[08:03] <{K}Lubby> lxe: no, but i got it to work on the same computer when it had windows xp on it
[08:03] <farous> el_isma: el_naseeb
[08:03] <el_isma> CVirus I've got 0.9.18 from wineHq
[08:03] <farous> :)
[08:03] <el_isma> farous: sorry, what?
[08:04] <CVirus> el_isma: it seems that you dont get my point ... why isnt it in universe backports
[08:04] <lxe> {K}Lubby: and your gateway computer is running windows xp?
[08:04] <farous> el_isma: oh sorry that is a popular sayin in my country. one say il esma the other say il naseeb sorry about that
[08:04] <el_isma> CVirus I don't know... Why don't you just add that rep?
[08:04] <{K}Lubby> lxe: yes it is, windows xp home
[08:04] <el_isma> farous: What does it mean?
[08:05] <CVirus> el_isma: I dont use except main restricted universe and multiverse
[08:05] <thedcm> how two i instal programs
[08:05] <KrisW> woot it seems to have finished this time, it's prompting me for some questions it didn't ask before
[08:05] <farous> el_isma: roughly translated both mean destiny
[08:05] <el_isma> CVirus ok... Apt always shows the latest available... did you do an update?
[08:05] <ricperry-ubuntu-> josie, to set the default sound card, System -> Administration -> Ubuntu Control Center -> Sound (should be in the Hardware tab).  Then simply change the default sound card with the bottom drop-down list.
[08:06] <el_isma> farous: what language is that?
[08:06] <CVirus> el_isma: yes sure
[08:06] <nicholas_paul> Q: Whats the diff between 'text mode' and 'OEM mode' in the installation?
[08:06] <{K}Lubby> lxe: hold on, im uploading the pic of what ifconfig comes up with...
[08:06] <Madpilot> thedcm, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[08:06] <el_isma> CVirus Then, probably, that's the latest version on the ubuntu repositories...
[08:06] <farous> el_isma: the mother language of name starting with el arabic. Will stop now for i know better that this is offtopic :)
[08:06] <lxe> {K}Lubby: ok thanks. does windows xp machine run some kind of wins proxy, or other weird stuff?
[08:06] <{K}Lubby> not that i know of
[08:07] <el_isma> farous: yeah, you're right. Anyway, interesting to know :)
[08:07] <farous> :)
[08:07] <{K}Lubby> it has a wireless internet receiver hooked up to router hooked up to modem hooked up to dsl though
[08:07] <{K}Lubby> lxe: ^ that's my internet connection
[08:07] <{K}Lubby> lxe: oh and here's the link to the pic http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/7136/ifconfigresultseb2.png
[08:08] <pushpop> For a New User like my self to the Ubuntu world, How would I learn or correct my xorg.conf because I am unable to startX ?  I get an Error "No Screens Found" and its detect my model monitor?
[08:08] <{K}Lubby> pushpop: no clue, im a ubuntu noob too lol
[08:08] <farous> pushpop: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:09] <pushpop> farous: tried that serveral times, and I get the same error each time
[08:09] <{K}Lubby> lxe: you making any sense out of that pic?
[08:09] <lxe> K}Lubby: lspci | grep Eth
[08:09] <farous> what is your error
[08:09] <farous> and what part do nto work is it the graphic card
[08:09] <{K}Lubby> lxe: what's lspci | grep Eth?
[08:10] <pushpop> farous: (EE) No devices Detected  Fatal Error No Screens found
[08:10] <lxe> {K}Lubby: type it in and see what is says
[08:10] <farous> pushpop: then you selected the wrong driver for your graphic card
[08:10] <{K}Lubby> okay
[08:10] <farous> pushpop: do you know what card you have
[08:10] <pushpop> farous: x800
[08:10] <lxe> {K}Lubby: like 'Ethernet Controller ... blah blah"
[08:10] <pushpop> farous: its shows up as an x850
[08:11] <farous> pushpop: did you select the ati driver when you did the dpkg-reconfigure
[08:11] <PyroManiak> hells yeah! got my game working.. lol
[08:11] <pushpop> farous: it auto fills the ati x850
[08:11] <{K}Lubby> lxe: "ethernet controller: intel corporation 82557/8/9 [ethernet pro 100]  (rev 01)
[08:11] <lxe> {K}Lubby: the card seems to be working
[08:12] <farous> pushpop: you know how to use the pastebin?
[08:12] <{K}Lubby> lxe: yeah
[08:12] <{K}Lubby> lxe: just for grins, should i try another ethernet card?
[08:12] <farous> !pastebin > pushpop
[08:12] <farous> pushpop: check the pm from ubotu
[08:13] <pushpop> farous: yes but this is on another pc
[08:13] <lxe> {K}Lubby: you can try, but i doubt this is a card or a driver problem
[08:13] <{K}Lubby> lxe: okay, then i won't try right now
[08:13] <{K}Lubby> lxe: what next?
[08:13] <pushpop> farous
[08:13] <farous> pushpop: i need to have a look at your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[08:13] <lxe> {K}Lubby: are you sure that you should be 192.168.0.2?
[08:13] <pushpop> farous: ok ill ssh in one minutes
[08:13] <farous> ok
[08:13] <{K}Lubby> it needs to be 192.168.0.something-other-than-1
[08:14] <{K}Lubby> something in the same range as the ethernet card on my xp, which is 192.168.0.1
[08:14] <pushpop> farous: is ssh enabled by default?
[08:14] <farous> the client not the server yes
[08:14] <farous> for the server install openssh-server package
[08:15] <pushpop> like i said im new to all this
[08:15] <pushpop> what would be the actual command
[08:15] <pushpop> sorry =/
[08:15] <lxe> {K}Lubby: ahh
[08:15] <farous> pushpop: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[08:15] <{K}Lubby> lxe: does the ahhh mean that you figured out the problem? :P
[08:16] <lxe> {K}Lubby: no it means i have no idea what's going on
[08:16] <mikeg> sethk: do u have any idea how to know my kernel module?
[08:16] <{K}Lubby> lxe: YAY if you fix it ill umm... i dunno... ill be happy though
[08:17] <lxe> {K}Lubby:  1. try another card. 2. run dhcp server on windows machine, and if that doesn't work, something's wrong
[08:17] <{K}Lubby> lxe: how do i run dhcp on it?
[08:17] <lxe> {K}Lubby: i donno
[08:17] <{K}Lubby> great
[08:17] <lxe> {K}Lubby: oh when you click "ok" in network-admin, what does the error say?
[08:18] <{K}Lubby> hold on, ill screeny it
[08:18] <verbose_> {K}Lubby: are you using internet connection sharing on the xp machine?
[08:18] <lxe> thanks
[08:18] <{K}Lubby> lxe: its when i have ethernet connection selected and hit activate (or when i hit okay for the static ip settings of the connection if its already activated)
[08:19] <verbose_> {K}Lubby: what does ifconfig eth0 show?
[08:19] <pushpop> farous: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20262
[08:19] <{K}Lubby> verbosoe_: hold on
[08:19] <lxe> {K}Lubby: verbose had a good question about connection sharing
[08:19] <verbose_> does `ifup eth0` work?
[08:19] <farous> pushpop: ok give me sometime to read it
[08:20] <verbose_> i just jumped into this conversation, so sorry if i'm asking stuff that other people have already asked
[08:20] <pushpop> farous: you the man, thanks
[08:20] <lxe> verbose_: I don't thing we tried ifup yet :-p
[08:20] <visik7> anyone here with an r1000 driver ?
[08:20] <verbose_> i just looked at the .png...looks like that's the problem
[08:21] <farous> pushpop: you are using the open-source ati drivers
[08:21] <Necrosan_> How do I disable all the useless crap ubuntu tries to start when it boots?
[08:21] <Necrosan_> Trying to quicken the bootime/disable stuff I don't use
[08:21] <verbose_> Necrosan_: read /etc/init.d/README
[08:21] <Necrosan_> is there an interactive tool of some sort?
[08:21] <Necrosan_> I know how to do it manually
[08:21] <Necrosan_> But I'm feeling lazy tonight
[08:22] <pushpop> farous: i havent install any drivers
[08:22] <pushpop> farous" fresh install
[08:22] <ompaul> Necrosan_, you can install a program called "bum" boot up manager
[08:22] <carthik> What's an easy to use mp3 tag editor that is intuitive to use too?
[08:22] <Necrosan_> Can you vouch for it, ompaul?
[08:22] <lxe> anyway i need to go sleep
[08:23] <farous> pushpop: hmm i can not see any section for files or modules
[08:23] <lxe> LEAVE
[08:23] <farous> pushpop: did you cut those out
[08:23] <{K}Lubby> vebose_: you wanted a screeny of when i do ifconfig eth0 and `ifup eth0`, right?
[08:23] <pushpop> farous: no
[08:23] <Necrosan_> well?
[08:23] <verbose_> {K}Lubby: sure
[08:23] <lxe> damn user commands
[08:23] <{K}Lubby> okay
[08:23] <farous> pushpop: did you use the live cd to install
[08:23] <ompaul> Necrosan_, in so far as you know what you want to turn off and turn it on again yes - obviously if you stop the wrong thing }:->
[08:23] <pushpop> farous: no
[08:23] <verbose_> {K}Lubby: also include `dmesg|grep eth` and `lspci -v` please
[08:23] <pushpop> farous: alternate
[08:24] <{K}Lubby> uhh okay one sec
[08:24] <farous> pushpop: i would just say by the way your horiz and vet sync might be high
[08:24] <Necrosan_> ompaul, Is there a comprehensive list somewhere that lists a good majority of things I can turn off?
[08:24] <{K}Lubby> verbose_: do you want the `'s in there?
[08:24] <pushpop> farous: ok ill try changing
[08:24] <farous> pushpop: looks fine except for the missing font and modules section
[08:24] <carthik> Necrosan_, try searching the HOWTO forum at the ubuntu forums. I remember reading one such some time ago
[08:24] <verbose_> {K}Lubby: either way it should work
[08:24] <{K}Lubby> k
[08:25] <Necrosan_> bum seems pretty awesome
[08:25] <verbose_> i was using them mostly so you'd know where to start and stop the command versus my writing
[08:25] <Necrosan_> I'm really surprised ubuntu is outperforming solaris on this sparc
[08:25] <Necrosan_> Plus I get to use XFS as my FS, what a deal!
[08:25] <farous> pushpop: xserver have been changed a lot lately do not know if this inform is still requ in the xorg.conf file or not
[08:25] <verbose_> is it SMP?
[08:25] <pushpop> no idea
[08:26] <Necrosan_> Do I need powernowd on a sparc64 machine?
[08:26] <farous> pushpop: ah the server default to the first resol which is the highest. Do you have the highest refresh rate with this resol or a lower one
[08:26] <ompaul> Necrosan_, install that, read what comes up on screen when you start it - it is a you choose thing
[08:27] <farous> pushpop: let see what the room think
[08:27] <ompaul> Necrosan_, and if you hit the wrong thing and you have no gui then all you need to remember is the > sudo /etc/init.d/$service start <
[08:27] <pushpop> farous: ok
[08:27] <farous> Is it normal not to have a files section (for font path) and a module section for loaded modules in the xorg.conf file ??
[08:28] <Necrosan_> im stopping the crap
[08:28] <verbose> farous: i don't think it's normal, mine has both
[08:28] <Necrosan_> but it just keeps appearing again
[08:28] <verbose> i believe you definitely need FontPath directives
[08:28] <verbose> but i'm not positive
[08:29] <visik7> guys do you know if ati and nvidia driver can coexsists ?
[08:29] <pushpop> farous: im retarted my copy paste skills are not up to par. I have modules
[08:29] <verbose> "Module" section you should be able to get away with not having
[08:29] <Necrosan_> ill brb
[08:29] <Necrosan_> trying this
[08:29] <visik7> I mean I'm building a ubuntu live cd and I would to put both
[08:29] <farous> pushpop: no prob it was really strange. yet xserver have changed a lot lately
[08:29] <{K}Lubby> gah
[08:29] <verbose> visik7: i don't see why they couldn't
[08:29] <{K}Lubby> imageshack is going mental
[08:30] <{K}Lubby> what's another image hosting site?
[08:30] <visik7> verbose: just to be sure dunno maybe libGL.so.1 are provided by both and can conflict
[08:30] <farous> thanx verbose i thought it was strange too :)
[08:30] <{K}Lubby> cause it's saying please hit browse and select a file to upload, even when i did
[08:30] <Madpilot> {K}Lubby, try hitting your browser's reload button
[08:31] <{K}Lubby> i did
[08:31] <farous> pushpop: so when you do the reconfiguration just choose a lower resol and refresh rate for start
[08:31] <{K}Lubby> and tried internet explorer too
[08:31] <farous> pushpop: do not worry about the card name you have it right in the xorg.conf section X800
[08:31] <pushpop> farous: www.digitizememories.com/IMG_0961.jpg
[08:32] <pushpop> farous:  www.digitizememories.com/IMG_0962.jpg
[08:32] <D_Block> hi sorry to change to topic but if I download and use a livecd, is there any way to save my settings/config?
[08:32] <{K}Lubby> well anyways lxe and verbose here's the first of 3 pics
[08:32] <{K}Lubby> the commands in terminal part a: http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/5352/part1js4.png
[08:32] <carthik> !persistence
[08:32] <ubotu> To have some persistent storage when using a Live CD, follow the instructions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDPersistence
[08:32] <carthik> D_Block, ^^
[08:32] <D_Block> ok I'll check it out
[08:33] <DShepherd> anyone know where i can find a svg of the ubuntu icon on my system??
[08:33] <farous> pushpop: ah much better :)
[08:33] <pushpop> haha
[08:33] <{K}Lubby> gimme a sec while i set up photobucket and ill have the rest uploaded
[08:33] <verbose> {K}Lubby: well, before you spend time on that
[08:33] <verbose> try this: `sudo ifup eth0`
[08:33] <{K}Lubby> it says "password:"
[08:34] <verbose> {K}Lubby: enter your password
[08:34] <verbose> :P
[08:34] <farous> pushpop: did yo check the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file
[08:34] <{K}Lubby> errr... duh... :P
[08:34] <pushpop> farous: will now hold
[08:34] <farous> pushpop: will tell you what was loaded and might have a clue
[08:34] <BigOrNo> hello :)
[08:34] <Madpilot> DShepherd, there are SVGs on the Ubuntu wiki, I know
[08:35] <{K}Lubby> is there a reason why my keybaord isn't doing anything in terminal then?
[08:35] <DShepherd> Madpilot: none exists on a default install of dapper of the ubuntu icon?
[08:35] <verbose> {K}Lubby: it will not echo the password for security reasons
[08:35] <Madpilot> DShepherd, probably, yes, but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official too
[08:35] <verbose> just type it and hit enter
[08:35] <D_Block> for Persistence, it it possible to use a partition of a usb hard drive, rather that a usb stick?
[08:35] <{K}Lubby> oh
[08:35] <yossman> dsherperd
[08:35] <yossman> ack, dsheperd
[08:35] <yossman> ack fired.  dude check /usr/share/icons/ ?
[08:35] <{K}Lubby> it says "ifup: the interface eth0 already configured"
[08:36] <verbose> {K}Lubby: now try pinging 192.168.0.1
[08:36] <yossman> and then Human/ maybe
[08:37] <Madpilot> yossman, thanks, I was trying to remember where in /usr/ that sort of thing might be...
[08:37] <yossman> also dshepherd you could try just doing a search for files and do like '*.png' in /usr
[08:37] <{K}Lubby> how do i do a ping?
[08:37] <BigOrNo> i have a problem with my onboard network chipset and ubuntu 6.06...It's a sis191...Internet just doesn't work and when i try an ifconfig the eth0 "Base address" is 0xdead...what does that mean ?
[08:37] <{K}Lubby> is it ping 192.168.0.1?
[08:37] <yossman> madpilot yea they move it around from time to time on different distributions heh
[08:37] <|thunder> how do i download "network-manager_0.6.2-0ubuntu7_i386.deb' to a directory ?
[08:37] <DShepherd> yossman: .. png.. yes. i was searching for svg
[08:37] <verbose> {K}Lubby: yes
[08:37] <{K}Lubby> okay one sec
[08:37] <Madpilot> {K}Lubby, ping google.com - or something like that
[08:37] <D_Block> does anyone know what I was asking?
[08:38] <D_Block> can persistence be run from a partition of a no-USB stick
[08:38] <D_Block> *non
[08:38] <{K}Lubby> verbose it made a new line with ">" and nothing else
[08:38] <farous> pushpop: run this command and tell me if you have an output from it. lsmod |grep ati
[08:38] <Madpilot> D_Block, possibly - not sure at all, though
[08:38] <D_Block> ok thanks
[08:38] <pushpop> farous: ok
[08:39] <{K}Lubby> and i can type there verbose
[08:39] <verbose> {K}Lubby: hit ctrl-c
[08:39] <verbose> then try again
[08:39] <{K}Lubby> oh, i had a typo the first time
[08:39] <{K}Lubby> this time it says "connect: Network is unreachable"
[08:39] <pushpop> farous: cpufreq_conservative   7332  0
[08:40] <farous> pushpop: sudo modprobe ati
[08:40] <verbose> {K}Lubby: how is this computer attached to your network?
[08:40] <BigOrNo> It seems i'm not alone to have problems with ubuntu and network lol
[08:40] <TheGame> sup
[08:40] <pushpop> farous: Module ATI not found
[08:40] <verbose> is it hooked up to a router? or directly to another computer?
[08:40] <farous> pushpop: did you install the xserver-xorg package
[08:41] <yossman> he's direct to another computer
[08:41] <farous> pushpop: or are you using the server cd
[08:41] <pushpop> fresh install thats it
[08:41] <{K}Lubby> verbose: NIC --> crossover cable --> NIC --> windows xp computer
[08:41] <verbose> are you sure it's a crossover cable?
[08:41] <yossman> 'network is unreachable' means either the link cable isn't working
[08:41] <{K}Lubby> verbose: i had the exact same setup working just fine, except the ubuntu computer had windows xp on it
[08:41] <yossman> or the IPs are wrong on either side
[08:41] <mrPolite> yo, why does gaim open urls in a bash terminal?
[08:41] <{K}Lubby> and it was working then, and yes im sure its a crossover i went and bought it earlier today
[08:41] <verbose> {K}Lubby: try iptables -F && iptables -X
[08:42] <verbose> then try pinging
[08:42] <verbose> mrPolite: sounds like the default handler for urls in gaim is links or lynx or some other console web browser...check gaim's settings
[08:42] <TheGame> what player can play wmvs
[08:42] <{K}Lubby> uhhh for the iptables command it says "bash: iptable: command not found"
[08:42] <verbose> {K}Lubby: are you running a firewall on the windows machine?
[08:42] <{K}Lubby> thegame: windows media player
[08:42] <lwizardl> hi
[08:43] <inc|freaky> its iptables
[08:43] <farous> pushpop: are you connected to the net
[08:43] <yossman> thegame, i got it working with 'xine' and 'w32codecs'
[08:43] <{K}Lubby> verbose: uhh i think i disabled it one sec
[08:43] <verbose> {K}Lubby: sorry, iptables, not iptable
[08:43] <TheGame> hmm
[08:43] <lwizardl> how can i mount windows partitions from a usb drive
[08:43] <TheGame> u got wmp working?
[08:43] <farous> pushpop: i mean the box that have the porb
[08:43] <pushpop> farous: yes
[08:43] <{K}Lubby> verbose: oh wait, i do have a firewall on that i forgot about
[08:43] <farous> ok sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[08:43] <yossman> thegame, no the ability to play WMV
[08:43] <{K}Lubby> *disables*
[08:43] <TheGame> o
[08:43] <pushpop> farous: ok
[08:43] <TheGame> what about asf
[08:43] <farous> pushpop: if this does not work try it as sudo aptitude reinstall xserver-xorg
[08:44] <{K}Lubby> thegame: no idea
[08:44] <fdsd> hey guys, do you know a good way to have cp -a have a progress bar?
[08:44] <pushpop> ok
[08:44] <{K}Lubby> thegame: just that .wmv stands for windows media video, and its just like .wma except video instead of audio
[08:44] <TheGame> what is the package name for xine
[08:44] <{K}Lubby> i think im about to smack myself
[08:44] <r0wd3> Please help! Is this correct? After I install the nVidia driver, I have to change the  xorg.conf to use the new driver?
[08:45] <yossman> yea r0wd3
[08:45] <verbose> {K}Lubby: i wish i was within smacking proximity :P
[08:45] <verbose> although, that should have been the first thing i asked
[08:45] <TheGame> xine-ui?
[08:45] <yossman> verbose, that windows firewall thing is pretty lame a lot.
[08:45] <{K}Lubby> *retries to set it up*
[08:45] <yossman> i end up disabling it on a lot of systems ;)
[08:46] <{K}Lubby> yossman: i've had windows firewall off, it was the mcaffee one i forgot
[08:46] <r0wd3> My nvidia card in not in currently becasue it is not working with ubuntu, i was told to install the nvidia driver. after that restart and put in the card
[08:46] <{K}Lubby> verbose: nvm, it still comes up with the same error even without firewall on
[08:46] <TheGame> does xine come with totem
[08:46] <r0wd3> but i cant edit the xorg.conf if the card isnt in???
[08:46] <verbose> {K}Lubby: do you have a link light on the ethernet card?
[08:46] <verbose> in the windows command prompt type ipconfig /all
[08:47] <fdsd> anyone know?
[08:47] <verbose> and let me know what it's address is
[08:47] <{K}Lubby> verbose: yes to the link light i think, and type ipconfig /all on which computer?
[08:47] <r0wd3> ???
[08:47] <verbose> {K}Lubby: on the windows computer
[08:47] <verbose> hold the windows key and hit 'r'
[08:47] <verbose> then type ipconfig in that screen
[08:48] <verbose> and make sure it has an interface with address 192.168.0.1
[08:48] <zcat[1] > r0wd3: I think someone has put you wrong.. "not working" usually just means no 3d, you should have no problems booting up and using the card for basic GUI stuff still.
[08:48] <{K}Lubby> it did it, then closed, lemme do it in dos
[08:48] <{K}Lubby> verbose, what am i looking for on the mile of stuff it returned?
[08:48] <r0wd3> Neh, It doesnt boot
[08:48] <TheGame> yossman do u know the pckg name for xine
[08:48] <verbose> {K}Lubby: i can't remember the exact format
[08:48] <yossman> thegame hmm
[08:48] <zcat[1] > ahh, well that sucks. What card?
[08:48] <r0wd3> Unless i take the card out and use onboard
[08:49] <r0wd3> its a Sparkle 6600GT
[08:49] <verbose> but it should have something like IP Address :      192.168.0.1
[08:49] <{K}Lubby> yeah
[08:49] <verbose> under a Local Area Connection
[08:49] <dragonguy> hey, would someone like help me to configure boot my system into shell model but not gnome?
[08:49] <{K}Lubby> yes i see that part
[08:49] <verbose> {K}Lubby: and it has that?
[08:49] <{K}Lubby> yeah
[08:49] <verbose> ok
[08:49] <yossman> yea xine-ui looks like it ?
[08:49] <TheGame> beats me
[08:49] <{K}Lubby> it has another ip address though
[08:49] <farous> pushpop: how is it going
[08:49] <r0wd3> zcat[1] : Can you help?
[08:49] <TheGame> problem is i want to play files in firefox too
[08:49] <verbose> how about try right-clicking Network Connections on the windows machine and left clicking Properties
[08:49] <TheGame> so i might just get wmp10 and use wine
[08:50] <Madpilot> TheGame, Totem can use xine codecs - install totem-xine
[08:50] <zcat[1] > r0wd3: I can try. Put the nvidia card in and boot up .. I assume you get some text and stuff and then the screen goes black after a while?
[08:50] <TheGame> o wait i got the solution
[08:50] <{K}Lubby> its got ip address: 192.168.0.1, and then under that subnet mask: 255.255.255.0, then under that ip address: fe80::216:76ff:fe60:3035%4
[08:50] <TheGame> i think mplayer just cant find the w32 codecs
[08:50] <frying_fish> TheGame: you can also use mozilla-mplayer the mplayer plugin for firefox
[08:50] <aviper2k7> why do you want to use wmp10 in wine?
[08:50] <TheGame> so i have to install them manually
[08:50] <{K}Lubby> verbose: but on the network connection properties one yeah it has 192.168.0.1
[08:50] <zcat[1] > r0wd3: or does it really not boot at all?
[08:51] <frying_fish> {K}Lubby: that second one is ipv6
[08:51] <TheGame> where do i get the w32codecs
[08:51] <verbose> {K}Lubby: you should have 2 connections in that window
[08:51] <Scrippie> tell me
[08:51] <{K}Lubby> frying_fish: okay thank's... that makes sense
[08:51] <frying_fish> !restricted
[08:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:51] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell TheGame about restricted
[08:51] <verbose> does the one that's not 192.168.0.1 have the little hand under it and say Shared underneath?
[08:51] <frying_fish> TheGame: look there.
[08:51] <{K}Lubby> verbose: one sec
[08:51] <r0wd3> zcat[1] : the screen doesnt go blank, it starts to boot, then it gets to Ubuntu screen with the loading bar, and says what things it is loading. It gets the the Hardware driver part and just stops
[08:51] <{K}Lubby> verbose: no it doesnt... should i make it shared?
[08:52] <verbose> {K}Lubby: yes
[08:52] <yossman> lubby you said you already shared it ;)
[08:52] <yossman> earlier
[08:52] <verbose> the one that's hooked up to your ineternet connection, not the one hooked up to your linux box
[08:52] <{K}Lubby> verbose: it... was... but now it's got my wireless connection (for my network with dsl)
[08:52] <{K}Lubby> verbose: the one hooked up to the internet connection is shared
[08:52] <verbose> ok, that's how it should be
[08:52] <zcat[1] > r0wd3: hmmm.. ok. That's not good and I'm not sure I can help you fix it...
[08:52] <{K}Lubby> oh
[08:52] <verbose> now on your linux  box type dhclient eth0
[08:53] <zcat[1] > r0wd3: hopefully someone else here will know :)
[08:53] <{K}Lubby> verbose: does the ethernet cable one (that hooks to the ubuntu) need to be shared?
[08:53] <TheGame> thanks
[08:53] <verbose> you're sharing the connection that has internet connectivity
[08:53] <garryF> ubotu hardware
[08:53] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[08:53] <verbose> {K}Lubby: no, not that one, just the one that is directly connected to your internet connection
[08:53] <r0wd3> zcat[1] : I was surgest to reinstall, but that doesnt help, since i had to take the 6600gt out to install ubuntu anyway
[08:54] <{K}Lubby> verbose: okay ummm it came up with some weird results for the dhclient eth0 thing, lemme screeny it
[08:54] <jn> is there any fonts in gedit that will display ansi correctly
[08:54] <r0wd3> Thanks anyway, the fact that you were willing to help is awsome.
[08:54] <r0wd3> Can anyone else Help me!
[08:54] <TheGame> what does this error mean
[08:54] <TheGame> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[08:54] <jn> r0wd3: with what?
[08:54] <verbose> {K}Lubby: if it already finished that's probably a good sign
[08:54] <verbose> try pinging 192.168.0.1
[08:54] <jn> TheGame: means you got something open that shouldnt be
[08:54] <jn> close synamtic
[08:54] <TheGame> o ya that its
[08:54] <TheGame> thats it
[08:54] <r0wd3> I cant boot past the ubuntu loading screen with my 6600GT in, I have to take it out and run my onboard graphics to boot
[08:54] <TheGame> thanks i didnt even see it open
[08:55] <zcat[1] > r0wd3: I'm thinking BIOS settings or something.. but it's a bit out of my depth. Doesn't sound like you're even getting as far as starting X so it's probably more complicated than just using the right driver.
[08:55] <r0wd3> oh ok then, What do you surgest i cheack?
[08:55] <{K}Lubby> verbose: it gave me a few lines of not being able to creat things cause of permission denied
[08:55] <r0wd3> *
[08:56] <jn> what is the linux equivilant to the terminal font
[08:56] <verbose> {K}Lubby: sorry, sudo dhclient eth0
[08:56] <jn> one that displays asni
[08:56] <{K}Lubby> verbose: oh, okay
[08:56] <jn> is there one by default?
[08:56] <pushpop> farous: I installed ati drivers and it worked.  Thanks for all your help
[08:56] <zcat[1] > r0wd3: a google search, see if anyone else had a similar problem and how they fixed it...
[08:57] <{K}Lubby> verbose: for the send_packet part it says network is down
[08:57] <jn> pushpop: xgl?
[08:57] <verbose> {K}Lubby: try ping 192.168.0.2
[08:57] <verbose> this is damn weird
[08:57] <r0wd3> Yeah, i tryed that, there isn't anything similar
[08:57] <{K}Lubby> verbose: yeah it is weird
[08:57] <farous> pushpop: glad it worked :)
[08:57] <{K}Lubby> verbose: wait... you mean pinging my ubuntu computer from itself?
[08:57] <verbose> yes
[08:57] <zcat[1] > r0wd3: or bring it up textmode and see how far it gets, see if there's anything in /var/log/xorg.0.log about it..
[08:58] <r0wd3> Do you think i should try another card and see if it boots?
[08:58] <pushpop> farous: thanks again
[08:58] <zcat[1] > perhaps that too
[08:58] <{K}Lubby> verbose: *groan* it still says connect: Network is unreachable
[08:58] <garryF> I can't figure out what the O in rOwd3 is, so I guess I gotta say it here. I see your card is supported, and it seems by default that Ubuntu uses the NV driver which words for most nvidia cards. I suspect something else is wrong like maybe a monitor setup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:58] <{K}Lubby> verbose: i think the reason why is because it won't activate my ethernet card when i have static ip settings because of that error
[08:58] <garryF> !Nvidia
[08:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:59] <r0wd3> zcat[1] : ahh ok, i didnt think of that
[08:59] <garryF> I noted that the binary driver stuff seems to be updates since last I looked.
[08:59] <verbose> {K}Lubby: sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.2
[08:59] <{K}Lubby> verbose: im setting the network card on the ubuntu back to dhcp, cause it will activate like that
[08:59] <r0wd3> garryF: I wouldnt know what to change, im pretty new.
[08:59] <verbose> {K}Lubby: ok
[08:59] <relyks> i tried installing glx on my comp with a nVidea GeForce 440 GO and after reboot, X wouldnt start
[08:59] <zcat[1] > garryF: funny thing is I had wuite a similar problem recently with an nvidia mobo.. first boot it would always stop on detecting hardware, warm boot it would come up OK. I didn't figure out why...
[08:59] <{K}Lubby> verbose: you want me to still do that command?
[08:59] <verbose> {K}Lubby: we need to connect to your windows box through another method than ping
[09:00] <verbose> {K}Lubby: no, don't do it
[09:00] <{K}Lubby> verbose: okay
[09:00] <garryF> r0wd3 hehe, now the silly name completion works. I agree.
[09:00] <HeXiOn> hello
[09:00] <verbose> click places -> network servers
[09:00] <{K}Lubby> verbose: what do you mean by another way to connect it?
[09:00] <verbose> {K}Lubby: pinging isn't working for some reason
[09:00] <verbose> so it's not a valid test
[09:00] <zcat[1] > .. the owner is now complaining it sometimes takes several boots to make it come up and we're thinking the board as ESD perhaps.
[09:00] <{K}Lubby> verbose: yeah
[09:00] <{K}Lubby> verbose: oooh i got an idea
[09:00] <garryF> Is it an NVidia mobo or a nvidia card? What's the chipset in either case, r0wd3?
[09:01] <r0wd3> It is a nvidia card, sparkle 6600GT
[09:01] <{K}Lubby> verbose: okay if i have the ethernet card on my ubuntu set to dhcp, how do i find out what dhcp gave my ubuntu for an ip address?
[09:01] <playtime3> why is the updates for ubuntu is really going slow?
[09:01] <HeXiOn> anybody knows an application for remembering dates? not just gdesklet... an application just as an icon in the tray with popups a message when programmed (as "Tray Helper" in windows)
[09:01] <verbose> {K}Lubby: /sbin/ifconfig eth0
[09:01] <garryF> zcat[1]  Yeah, I keep getting thrown by nvidia, I keep thinking of card instead of mobo.
[09:01] <{K}Lubby> verbose: that doesn't give me an ip
[09:02] <r0wd3> The board is a cheap second had one ( currently saving to upgrade) asrock board
[09:02] <zcat[1] > garryF: in this case it's nvidia video. In my case it was a fully nvidia mobo..
[09:02] <verbose> {K}Lubby: in the second line it should have ient addr:192.168.0.x Bcast:......
[09:02] <verbose> unless you're not getting an ip from the windows machine
[09:02] <jn> i thought it was monospace that displayed ansi characters like terminal does in windows but that is not happening
[09:02] <playtime3> Why is the update on ubuntu server takes so long? i
[09:02] <garryF> I wonder if there is a FIRMWARE upgrade for that 6600GT card. Maybe that should be checked out.
[09:02] <jn> any help?
[09:02] <{K}Lubby> verbose: second line- "broadcast multicast mtu: 1500 metric:1"
[09:03] <garryF> zcat[1] . yeah
[09:03] <sethk> playtime3, lots of people accessing it at the same time
[09:03] <sethk> playtime3, try a mirror closer to wherever you are
[09:03] <verbose> {K}Lubby: then it's not getting an ip address
[09:03] <{K}Lubby> verbose: i also doubt im getting an ip from it, cause i dont think it has dhcp running on it
[09:03] <verbose> if ICS is enabled that switches on the dhcp server
[09:03] <{K}Lubby> verbose: let me see if dhcp server is somewhere under services so i can start it
[09:03] <zcat[1] > r0wd3: bring it up with the working onboard video and change /etc/xorg.conf to use the vesa driver, perhaps.. or remove /etc/rc2.d/*gdm so it starts in textmode and see if you get to a login prompt?
[09:03] <verbose> but for now, do sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.2
[09:03] <playtime3> sethk: I have, it dont even reach a kbs
[09:03] <sethk> {K}Lubby, all you need is the ip and the netmask, as long as the windows box and the ubuntu box are on the same subnet
[09:03] <playtime3> *to
[09:03] <sethk> verbose, he needs the mask:  sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.0
[09:03] <HeXiOn> anybody knows an application for remembering dates? not as gdesklet... an application just as an icon in the tray which popups a message when programmed (as "Tray Helper" in windows)
[09:04] <verbose> sethk: it defaults to ffffff00
[09:04] <verbose> so he doesn't need to type it even though he needs it
[09:04] <sethk> verbose, not what the docs say, but possible, I suppose
[09:04] <r0wd3> Ok, ill do that now! Ill bbs
[09:04] <cafuego> HeXiOn: Evolution does that; if you enter meetings/appointments
[09:04] <{K}Lubby> how do i open up services on my xp machine again?
[09:04] <cafuego> not very lightweight though
[09:05] <{K}Lubby> oh i found it rofl
[09:05] <cafuego> {K}Lubby: Start Internet Explorer and browse the web for 15 or so minutes.
[09:05] <{K}Lubby> cafuego: why...?
[09:05] <HeXiOn> cafuego: thanks, I'll probe it :)
[09:05] <cafuego> {K}Lubby: That should be enough time to get infected ;-)
[09:05] <zcat[1] > haha, no just start MSIE and cruse to serials.ws
[09:06] <{K}Lubby> verbose: under services it has dhcp *client* started, and dns *client* started.... but i dont see any dhcp server.... i dont know if i windows has it on it
[09:06] <garryF> He could also edit /etc/inittab file and change the default runlevel from 5 to three and it would log in as command line and there is a two key command to go to instant login text screen but I forget what it is. I think its ctrl-alt-F1 through F4
[09:06] <verbose> {K}Lubby: it's not a service in non-server(XP) os's
[09:06] <garryF> nm ,he all gone.
[09:06] <verbose> it's just windows magic...YEEEEAAAAH
[09:06] <zcat[1] > I am consistently in awe at the amount of spyware that site can get in, even when you click on NOTHING!!!
[09:06] <{K}Lubby> verbose: yeah... so how do i start it?
[09:06] <verbose> {K}Lubby: now though, if you type /sbin/ifconfig eth0
[09:07] <verbose> you should see an inet addr:192.168.0.2
[09:07] <verbose> you start it by enabling ICS
[09:07] <{K}Lubby> verbose: ics is enabled... i think...
[09:07] <verbose> make sure in services.msc that Windows Firewall Service is started
[09:07] <verbose> cause that also performs the ICS i believe
[09:07] <ufk2> is there some kind of mirror for security.ubuntu.com? apt-get update from there is very very slow.
[09:07] <{K}Lubby> verbose: *start* windows firewall?
[09:08] <verbose> {K}Lubby: leave the firewall disabled, i just want to make sure the windows service is started
[09:08] <zcat[1] > wtf> You can run windows more than 5 minutes without a firewall?!!
[09:08] <sethk> verbose, I've been playing with it here, and it seems to need the netmask to get everything set correctly, including the broadcast address and network address and such.
[09:08] <sethk> verbose, I'm on breezy, but I doubt it has changed.
[09:08] <{K}Lubby> verbose: okay
[09:08] <{K}Lubby> verbose: what is windows firewall service name?
[09:09] <{K}Lubby> verbose: okay found it actually, and fyi its windows firewall/internet connection sharing
[09:09] <{K}Lubby> and it's started
[09:09] <{K}Lubby> verbose: want me to restart it?
[09:11] <{K}Lubby> verbose: are you there?
[09:11] <kihai> Can anybody help me with a hdd prob? I have a ext3 partition with an obviously corrupt partition table. Gnome panel shows me two identical drives, when I plug it in. I can read and write to it, but fsck.ext3 tells me sth about a zero lenght partition. Are there any tools to thoroughly check and repair the partition table?
[09:11] <kihai> Oh, it's an externally connected USB drive...
[09:11] <ripper> ughh
[09:11] <ripper> any way i can install the w32codec package?
[09:11] <{K}Lubby> kihai: sorry, but i know nothing about that stuff
[09:12] <{K}Lubby> verbose: are you there...? :'(
[09:12] <kihai> ripper: Try automatix.
[09:12] <playtime3> I've just install xchat when im in a channel i dont see the userlist bar on the right, how do i change it so that i can see the user list bar on the right? im using xchat-gnome
[09:12] <sethk> kihai, if you know what the partition table is supposed to be, it is easy to set with fdisk.  I believe gparted has some tools to try to figure out existing partitions if the partition table is corrupted
[09:13] <kihai> sethk: I already tried several times to delete and recreate the partition with gparted, but the error continues...
[09:13] <ripper> umm what is automatix?
[09:13] <isak_> www.getautomatix.com
[09:13] <sethk> kihai, if you know the beginning and ending sectors, don't use gparted, just use fdisk
[09:13] <jn> ansi in gedit.. anyone?
[09:13] <sethk> kihai, use fdisk -l to print out the partition table
[09:14] <sethk> kihai, if you've recreated the partitions, perhaps the problem is in the file system itself and not the partition table
[09:14] <ripper> umm i was using apt-get
[09:14] <{K}Lubby> verbose: (or anyone else) how do i change my ip address and mask using terminal?
[09:14] <ripper> i dont need a gui
[09:14] <ripper> blah
[09:14] <playtime3> I've just install xchat when im in a channel i dont see the userlist bar on the right, how do i change it so that i can see the user list bar on the right? im using xchat-gnome. Anyone know the solution to my problem please help me
[09:14] <kihai> sethk: ...and I don't know, how the partition table should look like. All data is already backed up, so I don't need to save any data, but I can't correctly repartition the drive
[09:14] <ripper> i just want to play wmv files
[09:14] <isak_> ripper, i think ffmpeg has support for wmv3 now.
[09:14] <Benjamin_L> is there a way to blacklist my onboard soundcard?
[09:15] <sethk> kihai, I don't know a lot about gparted, because I've been using fdisk for 15 years and I have no reason to change.  So try partitioning with fdisk.  you have nothing to lose, it would appear.
[09:15] <{K}Lubby> sethk: how do i set my ubuntu's ip address and mask?
[09:15] <ufk2> is there a mirror for security.ubuntu.com?
[09:15] <ripper> i wish i didnt have to install another package manager to make w32codecs install
[09:15] <ripper> thats kinda f00bar
[09:15] <verbose> sethk: works fine for me here
[09:15] <verbose> sethk: what happens on your machine when you don't specify it?
[09:15] <verbose> {K}Lubby: click Places -> Network Servers
[09:15] <verbose> and see if you see your windows machine in it
[09:15] <dnB> package manager? or repo?
[09:15] <sethk> {K}Lubby, I must have told you this about 30 times, and several other people have as well.  ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.0
[09:15] <yossman> ripper you don't have to
[09:16] <yossman> you just have to enable restricted repositories
[09:16] <sethk> verbose, let me see if I still have it in my scroll buffer
[09:16] <verbose> thx
[09:16] <sethk> verbose, in any event, it certainly can't hurt to explicitly set the mask
[09:16] <ripper> yeah i just did sudo apt-get update
[09:16] <verbose> sethk: talk to someone with carpal tunnel
[09:16] <{K}Lubby> verbose: any other ideas?
[09:16] <ripper> apparently there was a problem with the old package
[09:16] <kihai> OK, I tried to mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda1 but I get "unable to read superblock" Could not read block 0
[09:17] <sethk> verbose, other than {K}Lubby here, one doesn't normally type that frequently  :)   although I do when I'm porting the o/s, but that's another issue altogether
[09:17] <{K}Lubby> verbose: oh wait sorry i missed the places -> network servers part
[09:17] <verbose> {K}Lubby: try clicking Places -> Network Servers and see if your windows machine is in there
[09:17] <Necrosan> I can't get apache to recognize ServerName
[09:17] <Necrosan> it keeps showing the internal IP
[09:17] <Necrosan> any ideas?
[09:17] <ripper> ok, that didnt work
[09:17] <{K}Lubby> sethk: what was it you said about me? :S
[09:17] <ripper> and i dont want to install automatix
[09:17] <verbose> sethk: i use ifconfig pretty frequently
[09:17] <kihai> sethk: I'll try...
[09:17] <verbose> Necrosan: did you restart httpd?
[09:17] <{K}Lubby> verbose: when i go to places -> network servers, windows network shows up
[09:18] <verbose> {K}Lubby: do you have any shares on your xp machine?
[09:18] <sethk> verbose, I'm never dealing with 0xffffff00 as a netmask, so a default wouldn't help me in any event
[09:18] <{K}Lubby> verbose: uhhh i dont think so
[09:18] <Necrosan> verbose: of course
[09:18] <Necrosan> I tried adding it to /etc/apache2/sites-available/default
[09:18] <ripper> someone having a problem with apache?
[09:18] <Necrosan> and to /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[09:18] <SurfnKid> im not
[09:18] <ripper> Necrosan, what are you trying to do?
[09:18] <{K}Lubby> verbose: as in right clicking files/folders and having them made available to the whole network?
[09:19] <Necrosan> ripper: Set a "hostname"
[09:19] <jn> im getting timestamp too far in the future for some things i need to do, is there a way to correct that
[09:19] <Necrosan> I'm using a cjb.net redirector
[09:19] <ripper> heh
[09:19] <Necrosan> And I'd like to set that as the "ServerName"
[09:19] <ripper> lol
[09:19] <ripper> ok np
[09:19] <ripper> hang on
[09:19] <Necrosan> but apache is being stupid and not letting e
[09:19] <verbose> Necrosan: sethk i was talking to {K}Lubby in this particular case, not saying you never need netmask...i specifically said in this example
[09:19] <ripper> check your rc files
[09:19] <verbose> {K}Lubby: yeah
[09:19] <ripper> or run hostname :P
[09:19] <yossman> ripper i was wrong you do have to grab it a special way
[09:19] <ripper> thats crap
[09:19] <{K}Lubby> verbose: yeah i do, cause when i set the wireless network to shared it also shared all my files too lol
[09:19] <Necrosan> er i think i got it
[09:20] <ripper> let me show you how to make it more permanent @ Necrosan
[09:20] <Necrosan> yeah i got it i think
[09:20] <mwe> Is the gnome network settings dialog supposed to be able to handle WPA?
[09:20] <Necrosan> mwe: I'd hope so
[09:21] <cafuego> mwe: Yes.
[09:21] <ripper> just do this
[09:21] <verbose> {K}Lubby: try opening the windows network
[09:21] <cafuego> Not only that, it _does_ handle WPA.
[09:21] <{K}Lubby> verbose: theres nothing there
[09:21] <ripper> sudo nano /etc/hostname
[09:21] <mwe> cafuego: I can't seem to find settings for WPA though. only WEP
[09:21] <tuxtux> ciao
[09:21] <verbose> i'm out of ideas then, and have to go to sleep anyway
[09:21] <{K}Lubby> verbose: i also tried sudo ethtool eth0, and it said that there is a link detected, among other things
[09:21] <cafuego> mwe: Do you have wpasupplicant installed?
[09:21] <verbose> yeah, every thing looks good on the linux box
[09:21] <{K}Lubby> verbose: okay night, ill try and figure it out... thanks for the help though
[09:21] <mwe> cafuego: yes
[09:22] <{K}Lubby> wait one last thing
[09:22] <cafuego> Odd. Very odd.
[09:22] <verbose> {K}Lubby: yeah
[09:22] <mwe> yes
[09:22] <jn> so.. timestamp error.. do i have to wait it out?
[09:22] <{K}Lubby> verbose: what's the equivalent of sudo ethtool eth0 on windows?
[09:22] <cafuego> mwe: Oh hold on, are you using network-manager or the Network Interfaces dialog?
[09:22] <ripper> i h8 windows
[09:22] <cafuego> {K}Lubby: `ipconfig' probably.
[09:22] <verbose> {K}Lubby: i guess the closest thing is ipconfig /all
[09:22] <{K}Lubby> k
[09:23] <mwe> cafuego: It's called network setting, from the system menu
[09:23] <cafuego> ipconfig is crap, though
[09:23] <verbose> but a lot of the information is in the device manager, not in ipconfig
[09:23] <ripper> pr0n sites should make their content accessible to all *by not using wmv formats :P*
[09:23] <mwe> cafuego: I need to use something else?
[09:23] <cafuego> mwe: That does indeed not (to my knowledge) do WPA. You'll need to install networkmanager and add the network manager applet to your panel.
[09:23] <{K}Lubby> it doesnt say anything about a link being detected....
[09:24] <mwe> cafuego: oh. ok thanks
[09:24] <{K}Lubby> but then again, i guess that fact that in network settings it says "connected" means link detected *laugh*
[09:24] <jn> no one wants to help me anymore
[09:24] <jn> sup with it?
[09:25] <GNAM> ubuntu 6.06 service pack 1 OUT!
[09:25] <TomTheBomb> does Security have a mirror
[09:26] <mwe> service pack?
[09:26] <harisund> Does anybody have any experience with CaptiveNTFS on AMD64? Any performance benchmarks or the like?
[09:27] <el_isma> harisund: Did you try ntfs-3g?
[09:27] <harisund> el_isma: what is that?
[09:27] <el_isma> harisund: I think the release of the beta had some benchmarks
[09:28] <el_isma> harisund: It's a free ntfs read-write driver
[09:28] <Knuckles10> is the ubuntu update site really slow at the moment?
[09:28] <el_isma> harisund: it's still beta, but works pretty well. I've been using it for a while
[09:28] <Knuckles10> im only getting a few bytes a second off it
[09:28] <el_isma> Knuckles10: yes, it seems everybody is updating
[09:28] <harisund> el_isma: well, I am not particularly keen on benchmarks. I just want to write to my ntfs partition as non root. I am thinking of setting up dual boot and share my firefox/thunderbird/gaim/gnupg profiles across both operating systems. Think it can be done?
[09:28] <el_isma> Knuckles10: Try using a mirror
[09:29] <Knuckles10> can you link me?
[09:29] <Knuckles10> <-- ubuntu noob
[09:29] <harisund> el_isma: is ntfs-3g available in the repos?
[09:29] <el_isma> harisund: I think your best bet is using ntfs-3g. I'm using it to share my thunderbird mail and my main storage (downloading things from bittorrent)
[09:29] <el_isma> harisund: no, but there's a rep. for it
[09:29] <el_isma> harisund: do you want it?
[09:30] <harisund> sweet ... so you are able to access your emails from both operating systems if i am not much mistaen?
[09:30] <harisund> el_isma: if you have it it would be great.
[09:30] <el_isma> Knuckles10: I'm sorry, I don't know which mirror would be best for you
[09:30] <el_isma> Knuckles10: There was some app that picked up the best mirror for you.. I can't remember it, sorry :(
[09:30] <el_isma> harisund: hold on a minute
[09:31] <el_isma> harisund: oh, here it is: deb http://flomertens.keo.in/ubuntu/ dapper main
[09:31] <TheGateKeeper> harisund: there are howto's on ntfs read/write in the ubuntu forums
[09:31] <harisund> TheGateKeeper: Ok .. I will try searching .. meanwhie, el_isma thanks for the link
[09:32] <el_isma> harisund: no prob. :)
[09:33] <altious> wow... 767 total =))
[09:33] <Lattyware> With 0 ops...
[09:34] <altious> sorry. i am new. is there more popular channels?
[09:34] <hawkaloogie> Lattyware, they exist in silence. they live in shadow. when you least expect it, they shall appear
[09:35] <Lattyware> heh
[09:35] <harisund> actually hawkaloogie they shall appear merely by typing !ops but let's not do that :)
[09:35] <Madpilot> harisund, too late, you just did ;)
[09:36] <harisund> did I ? ooopss...
[09:36] <zcat[1] > I saw no summons from ubotu
[09:36] <harisund> I thought the bot is only invoked when typing a statement starting from '!' ?
[09:36] <harisund> Yeah, neither did I zcat[1]  ...
[09:36] <zcat[1] > I think he kids...
[09:36] <DBO> harisund, I have a highlight on ops =P
[09:36] <harisund> I hope he kids :)
[09:37] <Madpilot> harisund, some of us have our IRC clients set up to beep on [bang] ops
[09:37] <hawkaloogie> roflrofl
[09:37] <harisund> Well.. Madpilot responded pretty immediately.
[09:37] <harisund> Oh that's why ..
[09:37] <harisund> oopss.. sorry didn't realize.
[09:37] <el_isma> :D
[09:37] <Madpilot> no prob... now let me go back to my lurking ;)
[09:37] <harisund> and waiting in the shadow ..
[09:38] <Se7h> isnt there a way to place evolution on the tray ?
[09:38] <Bob535> gah, time for crossover office, need to write something in VBA, cant figure out basic, python or beanshell to work in openoffice
[09:38] <Bob535> no time to learn a new language
[09:38] <Se7h> Bob535 go for python
[09:38] <{K}Lubby> anyone know how to find the mac address of a windows xp machine?
[09:38] <sycho> how can you minimize xmms to the tray?
[09:38] <zcat[1] > nmap as root will tell you
[09:38] <Se7h> {K}Lubby ipconfig /a
[09:38] <Bob535> lubby, start > run
[09:39] <Bob535> "cmd"
[09:39] <Bob535> from dos promt
[09:39] <sanmarcos> Bob535, python is the shit
[09:39] <Bob535> "ipconfig"
[09:39] <Bob535> Im sure it is, if I had time to learn it
[09:39] <keithalexander> I've got the ubuntu live cd booted up at the command line (not in x). Where can I find the installer script?
[09:39] <{K}Lubby> okay thanks i figured it out
[09:39] <sanmarcos> Bob535, there is no time to learn. Just go to the python tutorial, it is 10 min
[09:39] <sanmarcos> from there you go
[09:39] <keithalexander> (I don't want to start x)
[09:39] <sanmarcos> its inertia, its the shit I tell you
[09:41] <jn> is there any font that comes with ubuntu that will display ansi correctly?
[09:41] <Bob535> I will take a look sanmarcos
[09:41] <sanmarcos> jn, fixed?
[09:41] <sanmarcos> jn, monospace
[09:42] <sycho> any good tradewars helpers for ubuntu? :)
[09:42] <Bob535> Everytime i load the python editor in open office, OO crashes, is it a separate install from the main OO?
[09:42] <mwe> The network-manager applet says "no network connection" I do have a connection though ?!
[09:42] <dell500> how do you make a new partition onto a USB device (sata 300gb)?
[09:43] <jn> sanmarcos: nope monospace doesnt show the chars correctly and i dont see fixed
[09:43] <PyroManiak> what does enable "desktop double buffer" do to wine? *performance wise
[09:43] <KrisWood> Woot, fully upgraded to dapper, now to make sure everything works :)
[09:43] <sanmarcos> jn, in what app?
[09:43] <jn> gedit
[09:44] <sanmarcos> what file are you editing
[09:44] <jn> nfo
[09:44] <jn> *.nfo
[09:44] <sanmarcos> make sure it is UTF-8, or ASCII, and doesnt contain shit if its ascii
[09:44] <sanmarcos> uuencode
[09:44] <jn> how
[09:45] <Quuar> can someone help me im trying to install a plugin to watch windows media content in firefox
[09:45] <Quuar> but i get
[09:45] <Quuar> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[09:45] <Quuar>   totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin: Depends: totem-gstreamer (= 1.4.1-0ubuntu4) but 1.4.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[09:46] <sanmarcos> jn, you can save it as utf-8 in gedit itself
[09:46] <keithalexander> can anyone tell me the name and location of the ubuntu installer script on the live cd?
[09:46] <SupeR> hi
[09:46] <sanmarcos> otehr than that there are console tools
[09:46] <jn> sanmarcos: how do i set ASCII or utf
[09:46] <mwe> How do I get the network-manager applet to recognize my network interface? It doesn't show.
[09:46] <dell500> how do you make a new partition onto a USB device (sata 300gb)?
[09:46] <mwe> dell500: sudo cfdisk
[09:46] <SupeR> why can't i login with root in ssh if in the installation i entered non root username ?
[09:46] <sanmarcos> dell500, gparted if you like guis
[09:46] <jn> sanmarcos: id like to have it to display properly everytime saving it to utf-8 would be a pain
[09:46] <mwe> dell500: /dev/sda or whatever the device name is. sudo cfdisk /dev/sda if that's the device name
[09:47] <dell500> sanmarcos, qtparter i have, i'm guessing the device it shows on the usb is /dev/sdc
[09:47] <sanmarcos> SupeR, PermitRootLogin is set to no probably
[09:47] <mwe> dell500: sudo cfdisk /dev/sdc then :)
[09:47] <sanmarcos> SupeR, login as normal user, su -, or sudo -i in ubuntu, and edit /etc/sshd_config or whatever it is called, then restart sshd
[09:47] <dell500> what's the diff between primary and logical (i used to know :) )
[09:47] <sanmarcos> dell500, yes, /dev/sdc, usb mass storage uses scsi emu in linux
[09:47] <SupeR> i dont think that is the problem
[09:48] <sanmarcos> jn, saving it to utf8 converts it outright, try "file myfile.nfo" it will tell you what type it is in the console
[09:48] <SupeR> i have 2 system now, sshd_config is exactly same
[09:48] <SupeR> but one can login using root, another one cant
[09:48] <jn> ok
[09:48] <sanmarcos> SupeR, maybe the root account is disabled?
[09:49] <mwe> dell500: you can create an extended partition instead of a primary and it can contain a number of logical partitions
[09:49] <dell500> show i make it primary or logical? and does OSX (new macbook) and winxp support ext3?
[09:49] <SupeR> sanmarcos: how do i check it ?
[09:49] <cafuego> dell500: No
[09:49] <sanmarcos> dell500, winxp yes, through fs-driver.org, mac os x, i am not sure, but no, they dont give a shit
[09:49] <sanmarcos> dell500, use vfat, it sucks, but its your only chocie if you want triple-os support
[09:49] <sanmarcos> SupeR, finger root
[09:49] <dell500> so maybe putting it in NTFS would be the best bet for more compatibility
[09:50] <jn> sanmarcos: that didnt do it
[09:50] <dell500> ya good call
[09:50] <jn> UTF-8 Unicode English text
[09:50] <SupeR> sanmarcos: command not found :P
[09:50] <mwe> cafuego: for some reason the network-manager applet says "No network connection" I do have a connection up though :|
[09:50] <{K}Lubby> whats the ifconfig command to change the gateway?
[09:50] <jn> but it still does not display correctly
[09:50] <sanmarcos> jn, it is an utf-8 file, can you upload a screenshot of the gedit win?
[09:50] <cafuego> mwe: <heh>
[09:50] <jn> sure
[09:50] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, use route, and edit /etc/network/interfaces
[09:50] <sanmarcos> SupeR, install it
[09:50] <Bob535> I will check python out in the morning
[09:50] <Se7h> isnt there a way to place evolution on the tray ?
[09:50] <Bob535> night all
[09:51] <{K}Lubby> sanmarcos, what's the command for route?
[09:51] <sanmarcos> route
[09:51] <mwe> cafuego: I think I can manage to configure WPA manually. I'd like to try the applet though.
[09:51] <{K}Lubby> oh :$
[09:51] <dell500> mwe, so having this 300gb sata would be for backup only, and to reference mp3s and stuff, so primary would be best
[09:51] <SupeR> ip ro
[09:51] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, just edit /etc/network/interfaces and add gateway 192.168.1.1
[09:51] <cafuego> mwe: You need to remove the interface info from /etc/network/interfaces for nm-applet to work.
[09:52] <SupeR> sanmarcos: with finger, if it's disabled, what will it display?
[09:52] <mwe> cafuego: oh
[09:52] <cafuego> mwe: Otoh, it also means you can't use the wifi unless you're logged in to gnome.
[09:52] <jn> sanmarcos: accept dcc?
[09:52] <|thunder> how difficult is it to share my wireless network over rth0 to a laptop ?
[09:52] <sanmarcos> SupeR, forget what i said, check http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_set.2Fchange.2Fenable_root_user_password
[09:52] <sanmarcos> jn, just imageshack.us
[09:52] <SupeR> thanks
[09:53] <mwe> cafuego: ah. I think I'll configure it the usual way then
[09:53] <{K}Lubby> sanmarcos: how do i edit it?
[09:53] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, with a text editor
[09:53] <{K}Lubby> k
[09:53] <{K}Lubby> and what do i change in it? (my ethernet card is eth0)
[09:53] <mwe> dell500: It doesn't make any functional difference if you make it primary or not
[09:54] <TGM> Whee~ I've been getting a bit bothered by some applications recently. Random failures mostly with the occasional simply not opening at all. Kolorpaint for one has been taking a -very- long time to open ANYTHING and half the time it opens it it closes it down in a second. My other main problem has been with firefox, it's been shutting down completely on some sites includeing Gmail and Newgrounds. This has been happening recently and I'm a touch
[09:54] <TGM>  frustrated. Any ideas what could be causing these things?
[09:54] <SupeR> cool, thanks sanmarcos
[09:54] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, I already told you, add the gateway line
[09:54] <sanmarcos> SupeR, yes, I was confused, did it work?
[09:54] <jn-> sanmarcos: query
[09:54] <{K}Lubby> just add it at the end?
[09:55] <SupeR> sanmarcos: yes, managed to disable root login with ssh :D
[09:55] <{K}Lubby> or add it after the stuff in auto eth0?
[09:55] <sanmarcos> SupeR, I thought you wanted to enable it
[09:55] <sanmarcos> SupeR, it is easily changed in sshd_config
[09:55] <SupeR> hm.. no
[09:55] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, add it after the last indented line
[09:55] <SupeR> i just want to know
[09:55] <SupeR> why if i entered other username in installation
[09:56] <SupeR> i can't login with root in sshd
[09:56] <{K}Lubby> sandmarcos... and if none of the lines are indented?
[09:56] <SupeR> but if i entered root when it asking for username in registration, i can login using root
[09:56] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, do you have a gui? you can do it by changing your network preferences
[09:56] <mwe> SupeR: because it's disabled by default. edit the config if you really need ti (you don't)
[09:56] <{K}Lubby> sanmarcos, i do... but it's being screwy
[09:56] <SupeR> mwe: which config ?
[09:56] <dell500> qtparted only has ext2,3, fat32 and 16, and some other stuff... no ntfs/hpfs
[09:57] <dell500> ntfs == fat32??
[09:57] <{K}Lubby> it won't let me have static ip settings using it
[09:57] <el_isma> dell500 ntfs != fat32
[09:57] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, it should look like this http://www.jardinpresente.com.ar/Util/texto/1
[09:57] <dell500> k
[09:57] <el_isma> dell500 and *quite* so, too
[09:57] <dell500> i figured
[09:57] <dell500> :)
[09:57] <el_isma> hehe
[09:57] <sanmarcos> dell500, ntfs > vfat. But not properly supported in linux, or os x. Your only choice is vfat if you want 3 os suport
[09:58] <{K}Lubby> san, okay
[09:58] <{K}Lubby> but what if its a read only file?
[09:58] <SupeR> sanmarcos: i cant even sudo if i disabled the root account
[09:58] <sycho> any suggestions for a good torrent client?
[09:58] <dell500> k
[09:58] <{K}Lubby> or did i open the file wrong san?
[09:59] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, the lines after the "iface" line should be indented, my bad
[09:59] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[09:59] <knowwho> !ice
[09:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about ice - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:00] <{K}Lubby> okay
[10:00] <{K}Lubby> and what do i do for network and broadcast? i have no clue what they are
[10:00] <el_isma> dell500 I found this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsx/ , a proyect to support ext2 in Os X. Don't know how well it works, /if/ it works
[10:00] <mwe> SupeR: why do you want root login? you can just sudo -i to get a root prompt when you've logged in
[10:00] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, that is a sample for a static ip http://pastebin.ca/126223
[10:00] <SupeR> mwe: that's exactly what i want
[10:01] <playtime3> when i install ubuntu it never ask me make a root password, how do i find out my root password?
[10:01] <SupeR> mwe: but now, i have a system where i entered root as username in installation
[10:01] <dell500> this is wierd, konquorer isn't working... loads pages but no images
[10:01] <hawkaloogie> playtime3, there is no root password
[10:01] <hawkaloogie> !root > playtime3
[10:01] <SupeR> mwe: so now, i can login with root in ssh
[10:01] <playtime3> so what do i do hawk?
[10:01] <{K}Lubby> okay, but since i have it set for 192.168.0.whatever i want to change that in the example right?
[10:01] <SupeR> mwe: and i want to know what is the different with my previous installation where i entered my username in installation instead of root
[10:01] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, network is not required, broadcast should be fine as  it is in my example
[10:01] <hawkaloogie> playtime3, use sudo
[10:01] <playtime3> ok let me try
[10:02] <mopflite> playtime3: the first user that you created has sudo privileges
[10:02] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, man interfaces if you really want to know
[10:02] <sanmarcos> !root > sanmarcos
[10:02] <mwe> SupeR: I don't know what happens if you enter root as the user name
[10:02] <mopflite> !root > mopflite
[10:02] <playtime3> ohhh so i dont need to try log in as root?
[10:02] <mwe> SupeR: You don't have a normal user then?
[10:02] <SupeR> mwe: only 1 user exist which is root, and i can do ssh as root by default
[10:02] <hawkaloogie> playtime3, no. read what ubotu told you
[10:02] <SupeR> mwe: no, i don't
[10:02] <Quuar> I think theres an outdated package in the repos?
[10:02] <mopflite> heh, that redirection is cool
[10:02] <SupeR> that's what i am trying to find out what happen
[10:02] <{K}Lubby> so i dont need the network line?
[10:02] <playtime3> u guys saying it too fast i cant read it lol
[10:03] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, not required
[10:03] <SupeR> and if possible to fix this without reinstalling
[10:03] <Quuar> playtime3: use your scrollback buffer
[10:03] <{K}Lubby> okay... and do i need the name line?
[10:03] <mwe> SupeR: create a normal user which is in the admin group and use that. you don't want a root only system
[10:03] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, if you dont know it, just don put it in, but you do need broadcast, you can get that from your router, or just leave that example in there
[10:03] <{K}Lubby> okay
[10:03] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, no, you dont need the name line also
[10:04] <{K}Lubby> and btw, i dont have a router for this connection, its my ubuntu computer to my windows xp computer using a crossover computer
[10:04] <SupeR> yeah, but how about the ssh? the config is exactly the same as my other system, but this one allow root to login
[10:04] <dragonguy> hello, how can I load my Ubuntu into shell model but not Gnome? thanks a lot
[10:04] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, when you talk to me, use my name so I see you more clearly
[10:04] <{K}Lubby> sanmarcos, okay
[10:04] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, its okay, you can use dhcp if wxp supports it also
[10:05] <{K}Lubby> sanmarcos, how do i turn dhcp on or install it or whatever? (i've got wxp home)
[10:06] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, just /etc/init.d/dhcp start afaik, or whatever it is called
[10:06] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, I assume you know what dhcp is, it will just do your network config for you
[10:06] <{K}Lubby> yeah, i know what dhcp is
[10:07] <{K}Lubby> san, i just don't know how to start it (i dont think xp comes with it though)
[10:07] <feet> on first install of ubuntu, my webcam is recognised. an dist-upgrade later, NOTHING recognises it. is there some way to get it back?
[10:09] <sanmarcos> feet, is it usb?
[10:09] <feet> ya
[10:09] <feet> its listed with lsusb
[10:09] <sanmarcos> try lsbusb
[10:09] <sanmarcos> oh ok
[10:09] <dell500> is there some special way to make a new partition onto a usb sata?
[10:09] <sanmarcos> what model/brand is it?
[10:10] <{K}Lubby> this thing is KILLING me
[10:10] <sanmarcos> dell500, ehh no, usb is just an interface
[10:10] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, dont use dhcp if its not supported
[10:10] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, use the static method, set it up right, its like 4 lines
[10:10] <{K}Lubby> i got it to work instantly when the ubuntu was on xp, but i want it on ubuntu :\
[10:10] <sanmarcos> then sudo ifconfig ethX down && ifconfg ethX up
[10:10] <{K}Lubby> san what's that do?
[10:10] <feet> genius videocam nb. uses that sn9x-blah driver
[10:11] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, huh?
[10:11] <sanmarcos> feet, make sure its loaded, lsmod
[10:11] <{K}Lubby> sudo ifconfig ethX down && ifconfg ethX up
[10:11] <{K}Lubby> and is the ifconfg supposed to be ifconfig?
[10:11] <sanmarcos> replace ethX with your real interface. It justs restarts that interface for the new settings to take place
[10:11] <Ademan> is there any way to force gedit to read a file that it "can't figure out the locale" of?
[10:11] <sanmarcos> yes
[10:11] <el_isma> dell500 ..... have you tried anything we said? You asked that question at least 3 times!! :|
[10:12] <FloK> pls could you tell me how to check what version of pkg is installed?
[10:12] <sanmarcos> FloK, apt-cache policy package
[10:12] <FloK> thc
[10:13] <{K}Lubby> san, it says permission denied
[10:13] <dell500> el_isma, yes i have
[10:13] <dell500> el_isma, i've used cfdisk and qtparted
[10:13] <dell500> neither have worked.
[10:13] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, use sudo
[10:13] <sanmarcos> FloK, or use dpkg -p packaname also
[10:13] <{K}Lubby> san, sudo at the start?
[10:13] <feet> oh it isnt sanmarcos
[10:13] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, every systemwide action requires sudo, yes
[10:14] <feet> how do i add that module myself
[10:14] <sanmarcos> sudo echo "modulename" >> /etc/modules
[10:14] <el_isma> dell500 well, tell us what errors they say....
[10:14] <{K}Lubby> it still says permission denied
[10:14] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, what command?
[10:14] <feet> permission denied o_o
[10:14] <el_isma> dell500 there aren't really that many different ways to partition a HD
[10:14] <DBO> sanmarcos, the redirect wont work, have him sudo -s, then run the command
[10:14] <{K}Lubby> sudo ifconfig eth0 down && eth0 up
[10:15] <sanmarcos> DBO, ah yeah sorry
[10:15] <sanmarcos> feet, sudo nano /etc/modules and add your module name ad the end
[10:15] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, that wont work
[10:15] <sanmarcos> sorry I am sleepy.
[10:15] <feet> ok let me have a go
[10:15] <{K}Lubby> isn't that what you said to do?
[10:15] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, sudo -i, then do  ifconfig eth0 down && eth0 up
[10:15] <sanmarcos> yeah my bad
[10:16] <dell500> el_isma, i know, errors said there was no file system
[10:16] <dell500> and cfdisk said something about the boot flag being enabled or something
[10:16] <{K}Lubby> san, its fine lol
[10:16] <feet> will i need to restart or anything san?
[10:16] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, make sure you type "exit" once you are done
[10:16] <el_isma> dell500 when you run qtparted, do you see the usb sata disk at the left?
[10:16] <{K}Lubby> san, now it says "bash: eth0: command not found"
[10:17] <sanmarcos> feet, no, /etc/modules is the list of modules to load at boot. Normally it should auto detect your webcam, but if it doesnt then no.
[10:17] <dell500> el_isma, ya, it shows /dev/sdc
[10:17] <Quuar> WHO WROTE EasyUbuntu!!!
[10:17] <dell500> which is the usb hd
[10:17] <sanmarcos> feet, just modprobe modulename, then use your webcam
[10:17] <el_isma> dell500 and when you click it, what does it say?
[10:17] <feet> ok let me have a look
[10:17] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, you are typing something wrong in your command
[10:17] <feet> will running apps need to be restarted?
[10:17] <{K}Lubby> ifconfig eth0 down && eth0 up
[10:18] <{K}Lubby> i did that after i did sudo -i
[10:18] <dell500> el_isma, make new partition, i do that, specify fat32... then it says something about the file system not being installed
[10:18] <el_isma> try ifconfig eth0 up
[10:18] <el_isma> bash didn't like the &&
[10:18] <Ademan> what's the folder that you put commands in? (like /bin or /usr/bin except its in your home folder)
[10:18] <{K}Lubby> el isma, then it says resource temporarily unavailable
[10:19] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, fconfig eth0 down && ifconfig eth0 up
[10:19] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, check it with ifconfig, it should be up and running with your network properties
[10:19] <sanmarcos> try to ping the windows machine
[10:19] <el_isma> dell500 now, that's weird...
[10:20] <feet> alright, i added the module with modprobe. i added it to /etc/modules too.  what now ? lol
[10:20] <el_isma> dell500 try using ext2, just to test
[10:20] <{K}Lubby> san, i pinged it, it says connect: network is unreachable
[10:20] <el_isma> dell500 I want to know if that gives an error
[10:20] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, is it up, check ifconfig
[10:20] <dongpo> hi
[10:21] <{K}Lubby> type in ifconfig and then check what?
[10:21] <el_isma> Lubby : if eth0 is there
[10:21] <dell500> el_isma, hold on
[10:21] <{K}Lubby> el isma, nope i dont think so :\
[10:21] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, can you paste your /etc/network/interfaces in pastebin?
[10:22] <dell500> el_isma, this is the error Error: Could not detect file system.
[10:22] <{K}Lubby> yeah, pastebin.com?
[10:22] <wookie> hi, just installed ubuntu on the laptop, happyness so far. how can i tell what version i have. also is their a root account like debian that i can log into or is that the point , there is nonoe and it is all sudo
[10:22] <dell500> says that for fat32 and ext3
[10:22] <{K}Lubby> oh, .ca
[10:22] <el_isma> dell500 could you show me a screenshot? I've never seen that error before
[10:23] <feet> version of kernel or ubuntu, wookie?
[10:23] <wookie> feet, ubuntu
[10:23] <sanmarcos> !root > wookie
[10:23] <sanmarcos> wookie, cat /etc/issue should tell you the version
[10:24] <dell500> el_isma, press print screen then what?
[10:24] <redblades> Hi, is there an official OO.o channel?
[10:24] <Tux> can some one help me install sauerbraten?
[10:24] <sanmarcos> redblades, #openoffice /list before you ask
[10:24] <redblades> #openoffice has 4 people in it...
[10:24] <Tux> can some one help me install sauerbraten?
[10:25] <el_isma> dell500 http://imageshack.us/
[10:25] <wookie> sanmarcos, thanks. 6.06 - what is the name for that dist?
[10:25] <sanmarcos> dapper drake
[10:25] <feet> the most recent release is dapper drake :-) youve got the right one ^_^
[10:25] <dell500> el_isma, where does it save the file?
[10:26] <sanmarcos> ubuntu doesnt have an equivalent of /etc/debian_version ?
[10:26] <el_isma> dell500 nevermind, I found something in google
[10:26] <el_isma> dell500 try creating a small partition, 10Gb Fat32
[10:27] <feet> be right back
[10:27] <wookie> i cant seem to get into the root account. ie by typing su. i dont have the password. is there a root accounton ubuntu?
[10:27] <dell500> el_isma, same thing
[10:28] <el_isma> wookie no, there's no root. use "sudo"
[10:28] <Lattyware> wookie: sudo
[10:28] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell wookie about sudo
[10:28] <el_isma> wookie: I think you can "get" to root by "sudo su"
[10:28] <{K}Lubby> hey sanmarcos, here's the link to my /etc/network/interfaces file http://pastebin.ca/126247
[10:28] <wookie> el_isma, thanks
[10:28] <Lattyware> sudo <command> [enter]  <password> [enter] 
[10:28] <wookie> i thought that maybe the case
[10:28] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, that should work. You sure eth0 is your network card that is connected to the WXP box?
[10:28] <el_isma> dell500 did you delete the old partition? and made the new one primary? and left the rest without any partition?
[10:29] <dell500> yup
[10:29] <{K}Lubby> sanmarcos... im pretty sure, at least i thought it was, how do i check to make sure?
[10:29] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, dmesg|grep eth0 should say. If it is, then sudo -i, then ifconfig eth0 down, after that, ifconfig eth0 up. It should be set up
[10:30] <{K}Lubby> what should it say?
[10:30] <wookie> when i installed my wireless card it came up as eth1, can i change it to wlan0? or should i not play with something that works?
[10:31] <el_isma> dell500 Well... From what I've seen in google, the problem seems to be with large harddisks...
[10:31] <Tigerx> eah yeah yeah
[10:31] <el_isma> wookie I wouldn't touch it :P
[10:31] <Tigerx> si coem no!
[10:32] <Tigerx> come+
[10:32] <{K}Lubby> san, it says "[17179598.464000]  e100: eth0: e100_probe: addr 0x40100000, irq 11, MAc addr: 00:A:0:C9:24:D8:38"
[10:32] <el_isma> !pastebin > el_isma
[10:32] <{K}Lubby> san, is that good?
[10:33] <dell500> el_isma, so what shall i do? :(
[10:33] <Tigerx> ma fatela finita
[10:33] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, well it should say your network card's manufracterer. Do you have only one network card?
[10:33] <Ademan>  isnt there a directory within your user's home directory where you can put commands that only you can use? (like the user specific equivalent of /bin or /usr/bin) ?
[10:33] <el_isma> dell500 try these steps, changing, of course, the appropiate drive letters/sizes http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20266
[10:33] <Tigerx> jsfhjdjghjkdflghdfjklghgjklhsdfhsgjklsh
[10:33] <redblades> What does LTS mean?
[10:33] <{K}Lubby> sanmarcos, yeah only one plugged into it
[10:33] <sanmarcos> redblades, long term service
[10:33] <el_isma> redblades Long Term Support
[10:33] <Lattyware> lol
[10:33] <redblades> Oh, the 5 year thing?
[10:33] <el_isma> service? support?
[10:33] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, yeah then it should be it, try the ifconfig lines
[10:34] <el_isma> yup
[10:34] <{K}Lubby> and i did the sudo -i, ifconfig eth0 down
[10:34] <{K}Lubby> and then ifconfig eth0 up, but it says resource temporarily unavailable
[10:34] <redblades> Cool. I saw it a few times when I was being super cool and not using X.
[10:34] <Tigerx> ma cosa state dicendo? parlate italiano
[10:34] <el_isma> behave yourself, Tigerx
[10:34] <Tigerx> cosa?
[10:35] <Lattyware> How can I start somthing at boot as root?
[10:35] <{K}Lubby> sanmarcos, when i did the ifconfig eth0 up, it said resource temporarily unavailable
[10:35] <Lattyware> XAMPP to be exact.
[10:36] <noiesmo> Lattyware, put it in rc.local
[10:36] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, yes. It is an issue with your network card driver
[10:36] <{K}Lubby> okay
[10:36] <Tigerx> ahahahahah
[10:36] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, I couldnt think fo something else
[10:36] <Lattyware> thanks
[10:36] <Tigerx> uhuhuhuhuhuhu
[10:36] <{K}Lubby> should i try a difference ethernet card?
[10:36] <mwe> heh. From 'man fdisk': "fdisk is a buggy program that does fuzzy things"
[10:36] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, did it work any time before?
[10:36] <{K}Lubby> san, yeah it worked when it was running windows xp
[10:36] <el_isma> mwe lol
[10:36] <Tigerx> yes the different is a much of the game
[10:37] <mwe> el_isma: under BUGS near the end
[10:37] <{K}Lubby> but now its running ubuntu, so it's using different driver im sure (i didn't install any, i just plugged it in)... so it could be a driver problem
[10:37] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, what card is it?
[10:37] <{K}Lubby> it's an intel something or other i think
[10:37] <{K}Lubby> actually i have no clue
[10:37] <Tigerx> viva apple!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:38] <el_isma> mwe quite funny :)
[10:38] <mwe> el_isma: yeah ;)
[10:38] <{K}Lubby> but i do have another ehternet card in my hand (its a netgear one)... should i turn off the ubuntu, take the old card out, but this netgear one in?
[10:38] <Tigerx> yeah yah?
[10:39] <{K}Lubby> their both relatively old, but i think the netgear one is newer/nicer
[10:39] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, try, also, checkout lspci, it should tell you the make and model
[10:39] <Tigerx> quanto mi piaceeeeeeeeeee la appleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[10:39] <mwe> Tigerx: stop being lame please
[10:39] <Tigerx> i'm not lamer :@
[10:39] <{K}Lubby> san, its an intel corporation one
[10:39] <mwe> Tigerx: then don't act lame
[10:39] <{K}Lubby> but lemme turn it off and put the new one in
[10:40] <Tigerx> @mwe you is lamer
[10:40] <{K}Lubby> san, should i leave the old one in when i put the new one in?
[10:40] <Madpilot> Tigerx, stop being immature. Last warning.
[10:40] <Tigerx> tantaaaaaaa forzaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa romaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[10:40] <Lattyware> heh
[10:40] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, you could, it makes no difference
[10:40] <lowenduser> what's the command for changing rights on a folder? I want my user to be able to tinker with the /var/ folder, but how?
[10:40] <Lattyware> Classy
[10:40] <lucas> hi
[10:41] <Lattyware> chmod
[10:41] <{K}Lubby> ill take it out to avoid confusion
[10:41] <Madpilot> lowenduser, chmod
[10:41] <lowenduser> okay, I'll just 'man' it!
[10:41] <Madpilot> Lattyware, the sort of 'classiness' I just kicked, we can do without ;)
[10:42] <lucas> Small poll: To get the newest software, should I use : (A) Debian testing /// (B) Ubuntu's latest release (dapper currently) /// (no other answer is possible, on purpose)
[10:42] <Lattyware> Madpilot: No, I was saying your kick was classy.
[10:42] <el_isma> Indeed :)
[10:42] <Madpilot> Lattyware, I try. ;) The nice op script helps.
[10:43] <Lattyware> heh
[10:43] <{K}Lubby> okay there got the new card in, turning it back on
[10:43] <Tigerx> ahahahah
[10:43] <el_isma> lucas debian unstable is even newer than testing... I guess that Ubuntu has newer stuff than testing... but I'm just guessing
[10:43] <mwe> oh no he's back
[10:43] <el_isma> c'mon tigerx...
[10:44] <Madpilot> Tigerx, behave, or the next time it'll be a 48hr ban. Clear?
[10:44] <Tigerx> oooh yes yes,
[10:44] <mwe> lol
[10:44] <sanmarcos> el_isma, ubuntu just pull stuff from unstable
[10:44] <Tigerx> rotfl
[10:45] <el_isma> sanmarcos his options were testing and ubuntu... feels like a small quiz XD
[10:46] <sanmarcos> with debian youll learn much more about gnu/linux, but youll have a less easy experience
[10:46] <sanmarcos> with less bling
[10:46] <el_isma> sanmarcos: I don't think that's true anymore
[10:46] <el_isma> sanmarcos: From what I've heard, debian testing/unstable has been catching up to ubuntu and friends
[10:46] <hyperstream> ahh
[10:46] <hyperstream> ive learnt more from ubuntu
[10:47] <hyperstream> than debian unstable.
[10:47] <sanmarcos> they just share 90% of the packages
[10:47] <{K}Lubby> o.O now pinging my xp is working PMG
[10:47] <hyperstream> and i  was using debian unstable for about a year and a half
[10:47] <sanmarcos> ubuntu is just more polished in their installer, init sequence, and shit like that
[10:47] <hyperstream> before going to ubuntu
[10:47] <hyperstream> you mean
[10:47] <hyperstream> more developed?
[10:47] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, the network card was fscked then, it didnt work right under your setup
[10:47] <{K}Lubby> yeah san
[10:47] <{K}Lubby> internet works now :D
[10:47] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, it worked out of the box? you should be able to browse now.
[10:47] <mwe> hyperstream: but you don't get to spend hours in the console trying to fix broken packages in ubuntu. how can you learn more from that 
[10:48] <el_isma> mwe, lol
[10:48] <{K}Lubby> i can't believe... that i spent about 6 hours.... CAUSE OF A STUPID NETWORK CARD
[10:48] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, normally youd have to set your dns, but if it works, well its great
[10:48] <{K}Lubby> sanmarcos, the reason why i dont have to set it is cause i set it in the interfaces file, remember?
[10:48] <el_isma> mwe, sadly... A friend of mine broke his kubuntu (x server)... no clue how to fix it (now, he reinstalled...)
[10:48] <bioticpro> I have a friend with an install of breezy that wants to upgrade to dapper, they are on dialup interent, how can I send them a cd with updates that they can use as a local repo?
[10:48] <sanmarcos> mwe, you learn how to fix packages, how the system works
[10:48] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, yeah, but the dns are set elsewhere
[10:48] <{K}Lubby> oh
[10:48] <Lattyware> {K}Lubby: I had a freind who spent 30 hours over two days trying to get his wireless netowrk card working. He had disabled it.
[10:48] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, anyways if it works, no prob, try ping www.yahoo.com
[10:48] <lowenduser> where do I go to get an explanation for this mumbo-jumbo :)? : [ugoa] *([-+=] ([rwxXst] *|[ugo] ))+
[10:48] <lowenduser> just an example?
[10:48] <{K}Lubby> ROFL
[10:49] <mwe> sanmarcos: fixing broken packages doesn't teach me anything about gnu/linux
[10:49] <{K}Lubby> san, im sure it works, cause im browsing internet on it :P
[10:49] <el_isma> bioticpro I think the alternate ubuntu cd let's you do that. I'm not sure, though
[10:49] <lowenduser> it appears to be the parameters for chmod
[10:49] <sanmarcos> lowenduser, where did you get that, I woudld say regexp, but with all those shit characters..
[10:49] <{K}Lubby> and it's pinging yahoo.com
[10:49] <lowenduser> I did a 'man chmod'
[10:49] <hyperstream> mwe,  because you can observe whats different.
[10:49] <micahcowan> regex, definitely.
[10:49] <hyperstream> and not waste time with BROKEN packages
[10:49] <sanmarcos> mwe, right, debian is less automated than ubuntu, and the community isnt as newbie oriented
[10:49] <hyperstream> and get on with what your trying to accomplish .
[10:49] <sanmarcos> hyperstream, thats what you get for using unstasble
[10:49] <{K}Lubby> *insert victory jig here*
[10:49] <sanmarcos> unstable = broken
[10:50] <sanmarcos> once upon a time grep broke, and the system would not boot.. not pretty
[10:50] <hyperstream> sanmarcos, unstable != broken. it = unstable
[10:50] <mwe> sanmarcos: debian is great. I'd choose debian stable for a server anytime
[10:50] <hyperstream> it being unstable.
[10:50] <sanmarcos> lowenduser, man chmod, seriously
[10:50] <micahcowan> lowenduser, crappy manpage. It's meant for people who can read regexes.
[10:50] <Lattyware> Out of all of the distros I have tried Ubuntu struck me as best.
[10:51] <Lattyware> I guess I wouldn't be using it if I thought otherwise :P
[10:51] <sanmarcos> Lattyware, they made it newbie friendly. They just polished debian
[10:51] <lowenduser> it can't be all that difficult, should be able to understand
[10:51] <el_isma> micahcowan, that was a regexp? It looked more bashy to me
[10:51] <{K}Lubby> san, where is the list of all the stuff that i can install on ubuntu?
[10:51] <micahcowan> as a path expr it wouldn't make sense. As a regex, it matches actual possible arguments.
[10:52] <Lattyware> sanmarcos: Yeah, I'm glad for it, I'm an old hand and can do/fix pretty much anything under Windows, because of that, it was harder to switch to Linux.
[10:52] <Lattyware> Stupid windows-based upbringing...
[10:52] <el_isma> {K}Lubby: synaptic/adept/aptitude
[10:52] <micahcowan> the man page also has a broken link to the info page, which ought to be "info coreutils chmod", not "info chmod". I'll file a bug...
[10:52] <el_isma> lattyware, indeed, same here... Now I'm trying to learn linux
[10:52] <sanmarcos> Lattyware, with Ubuntu you dont get to know the internals of GNU/Linux, how its really handled. Its all a GUI. But its okay, 90% of the users will not care to learn. and that is Ubuntu's target audience.
[10:53] <el_isma> sanmarcos, the console is there, if you want it...
[10:53] <{K}Lubby> sanmarco's, how do i get to synaptic? :lol:
[10:53] <sanmarcos> el_isma, like in Os X
[10:53] <Lattyware> sanmarcos: Yes, but it's a base, if I then want to learn the internals, which I do, I can move on once I have gotten more accustomed.
[10:53] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, are you using gnone?
[10:53] <micahcowan> bug already filed, apparently...
[10:54] <sanmarcos> Lattyware, of course yes, like you can do in Os X
[10:54] <el_isma> sanmarcos, maybe, but I think you'd agree that OsX has more polish
[10:54] <el_isma> dell500: still alive?
[10:54] <sanmarcos> el_isma, nobody opens the terminal in os x, except literates
[10:54] <{K}Lubby> sanmarcos, i dunno... i downloaded the iso of ubuntu.com and then burned the live cd and installed ubuntu from there
[10:54] <nexus__> hy anyone know the problem  that with the newest kernels the nvidia-drivers not works?
[10:54] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, are you in a graphical interface?
[10:54] <{K}Lubby> yeah
[10:54] <mopflite> sanmarcos: it's only "all a gui" if a user uses it like that - I don't use the gui configurations tool at all, or at least very little
[10:54] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, look it up under package manager, or add remove programs. I dont know, I dont use a GUI
[10:54] <slid3r> so whats the secret for getting the macromedia flash player working and STAYING working in FF?
[10:54] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, if all fails ALT+f2 type synaptic
[10:55] <{K}Lubby> i think i see it
[10:55] <{K}Lubby> now... what's cool/useful stuff to install? :P
[10:55] <el_isma> slid3r: Magic, I think :P
[10:55] <sanmarcos> 15000 packages from debian
[10:55] <slid3r> there really isnt a fix?
[10:55] <slid3r> has to be
[10:55] <noiesmo> slid3r, remove the thing between the seat and the keyboard
[10:55] <el_isma> slid3r: I don't know, flash works fine in Opera
[10:55] <mopflite> slid3r: I did sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree and it has worked faultlessly with firefox every since
[10:55] <noiesmo> slid3r, na just kidding :)
[10:55] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, it depends on what you want to instal in what category
[10:55] <{K}Lubby> heh
[10:56] <slid3r> I just did that
[10:56] <slid3r> still metacafe.com wont load
[10:56] <micahcowan> el_isma, fwiw, the man page also has a bash path-expr version at the /top/ of the manpage, in addition to the regex version at the bottom. :-p
[10:56] <nexus__> anyone know the problem  that with the newest kernels the nvidia-drivers not works?
[10:56] <{K}Lubby> is it better to have my ubuntu with the internet connection with my xp hooked up to it, or my xp with the internet connection with my ubuntu hooked up to it (the way it is now)
[10:57] <el_isma> micahcowan, lol!
[10:57] <el_isma> micahcowan, just took a look
[10:57] <Lattyware> By the way, under windows I was running Zoomplayer with the CCCP, and they suggested using MPlayer instead, as it should work just as well. I have installed MPlayer, and it won't play any of my video.
[10:57] <mwe> slid3r: many new flash pages don't work with the linux flash player because it's version 7
[10:57] <InuDuelist> Gar, I hate compiling. It's stopped working completely. Can anyone offer some help?
[10:58] <sanmarcos> InuDuelist, describe your issue thouroughly
[10:58] <slid3r> roger that
[10:58] <slid3r> :/
[10:58] <InuDuelist> Well.
[10:58] <slid3r> why do we run this OS again?
[10:58] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, makes no difference
[10:58] <InuDuelist> Because it's better. :P
[10:58] <el_isma> {K}Lubby, I'd guess it's safer if you have net->ubuntu->xp. But I think you said you had a router, in which case it doesn't really matter, the router already filters all harm
[10:58] <slid3r> better than what?
[10:58] <slid3r> stuff that works?
[10:58] <InuDuelist> It works.
[10:58] <nexus__> modprobe nvidia    FATAL: Module nvidia_legacy not found.
[10:58] <nexus__> wtf
[10:58] <mwe> slid3r: why does anyone use propriatary crap like flash?
[10:59] <InuDuelist> It just has some problems some times.
[10:59] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, you can learn about iptables/NAT routing in Linux if you want to do it. But if you are not into learning, it will me a masochistic experience
[10:59] <slid3r> I know
[10:59] <Terminus> hello. can anybody tell me how to get xterm maximized on startup?
[10:59] <slid3r> im just bitchin
[10:59] <el_isma> slid3r: It's macromedia's fault, anyway :P
[10:59] <slid3r> YEAH
[10:59] <slid3r> those bastages
[10:59] <sanmarcos> el_isma, it doesnt matter XP has a firewall
[10:59] <sanmarcos> el_isma, microsoft != insecure
[10:59] <possie> i've got troubles with my ICH7 sound card, in ubuntu, even though i *mute* my sound i still get sound :( i tried turning the volume down via aumix but this din't work either, anyone that might have an idea what i could try out?
[10:59] <el_isma> sanmarcos, !!
[10:59] <sanmarcos> el_isma, just as linux != secure
[10:59] <Lattyware> mwe: Why do people use crap like IE, Ciggarettes, and PSPs? Because they are idiots :P
[10:59] <sanmarcos> Terminus, man xterm
[10:59] <mwe> personally I wouldn't put the future of my companies web site in the hands of adobe
[11:00] <el_isma> sanmarcos, yeah, but... XP default firewall doesn't seem safe...
[11:00] <slid3r> san marcos are you the same guy that writes tablature?
[11:00] <sanmarcos> Lattyware, because they choose to be ignorant, they are trapped, addicted, they cant open their minds
[11:00] <{K}Lubby> HEY! PSP'S OWN
[11:00] <sanmarcos> el_isma, ubuntu has no firewall by default
[11:00] <{K}Lubby> but an addition to that crap list: ipod's
[11:00] <Lattyware> {K}Lubby:  Only as a media player, sucks as a games console.
[11:00] <sanmarcos> el_isma, you have to setup iptables by yourself, or use firestarter, or any gui tools
[11:00] <Terminus> sanmarcos: i already did. there's a maximize() action available but i don't know how to get it executed upon startup.
[11:00] <{K}Lubby> latty: psp >  ds
[11:00] <Lattyware> {K}Lubby: Fine, stay ignorant.
[11:01] <mwe> Lattyware: I think my mom is using IE because it was preinstalled on her laptop
[11:01] <el_isma> sanmarcos, but if you're using it as masquerade (is that right?), then no ports are forwarded
[11:01] <{K}Lubby> latty: your promoting ds's?
[11:01] <el_isma> sanmarcos, so XP only suffers from IE XD
[11:01] <Terminus> sanmarcos: and yes, i already know about .Xresources and xrdb. i just want to know how to stuff maximize() in .Xresources
[11:01] <KrisW> Where does dapper put the kernel headers when I install them?
[11:01] <sanmarcos> Terminus, see -geometry
[11:01] <Lattyware> Heh, I have proof XP firewall sucks. I have a freind who has been running it thinking they were safe, I quickly installed AVG, Outpost, Spybot and Adaware He had about 2000 pieces of spyware and 1000 viruses.
[11:02] <micahcowan> mwe, if anything were to happen to Adobe to "jeapordize" existing sites that rely upon Flash technology, the GNU implementation would find itself finished in a hurry, I should think (Flash /is/ an open format, btw...)
[11:02] <Terminus> sanmarcos: already tried it. it's a bit smaller than having it maximized.
[11:02] <{K}Lubby> how do i put java runtime environment on my ubuntu?
[11:02] <sanmarcos> el_isma, I am talking about iptables -A INPUT -j DROP, stuff like that, blocking everything except allowing somet hings
[11:02] <micahcowan> oops! and any more discussion ought to be on #ubuntu-offtopic, sorry...
[11:02] <Lattyware> {K}Lubby: I do have a DS, and I do enjoy playing on it.
[11:02] <mwe> micahcowan: it's not
[11:02] <Terminus> sanmarcos: and i got the values from xwininfo already.
[11:02] <el_isma> lattyware: firewalls aren't supposed to block viruses
[11:02] <Lattyware> But I was simply stating the PSP phails as a games console.
[11:02] <{K}Lubby> meh
[11:02] <mwe> micahcowan: the problem is they don't care about the 2% or so using linux
[11:03] <InuDuelist> sanmarcos, check your queries.
[11:03] <Lattyware> el_isma: Ack, I said that wrong, I meant to say somthing about my freind being ignorant. That's what I get for typing a message and reading others at the same time
[11:03] <sanmarcos> Terminus, check #xorg
[11:03] <el_isma> mwe, I heard rumors that they were going to fix it soon... (go figure...)
[11:03] <bioticpro> can the dapper install cd be used as an upgrade source for apt?  (I want to use it to upgrade my breezy w/o reinstalling)
[11:03] <micahcowan> mwe, should probably move this into #ubuntu-offtopic. It /is/ a published, and freely implementable standard, though. And while I agree that they don't much care for linux, I don't think that enters into my point...
[11:03] <Terminus> sanmarcos: thanks.
[11:03] <KrisW> I  did apt-get install linux-kernel-headers but I can't find where it put them
[11:04] <Ash-Fox> How does one pass build options to 'apt-get --build source'?
[11:04] <mwe> el_isma: yeah they said a new flash player for linux should be out later this year (Q4) IIRC
[11:04] <nexus__> anyone know the problem that with the newest kernels the nvidia-legacy-drivers not works?
[11:04] <mwe> micahcowan: I see. do you know where the standard is published?
[11:05] <micahcowan> I knew where it was for macromedia... for adobe, I'd have to search...
[11:07] <mwe> micahcowan: I've only seen a specification for the swf files. I guess I haven't looked closely
[11:07] <sanmarcos> nexus__, nvidia updated their legacy drivers not long ago. But they dont work for me, so I just gave up
[11:07] <Ademan>  isnt there a directory within your user's home directory where you can put commands that only you can use? (like the user specific equivalent of /bin or /usr/bin) ?
[11:08] <nexus__> My leagacy drivers doesnt work with the kernel 2.6.15-24 - 2.6.15-26
[11:08] <nexus__> it says (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module!
[11:08] <micahcowan> mwe, that's what I was referring to... but I appear to be wrong. The license for the spec says very clearly you may not use it to create "players", so you have an extremely credible point about the future of your website...
[11:08] <micahcowan> (it also covers flv, actually)
[11:09] <spanglesontoast> does anyone know why binutils won't compile ?
[11:09] <Ash-Fox> Compiles fine here.
[11:09] <spanglesontoast> well kinda touchy subject
[11:09] <spanglesontoast> using lfs... although I'm using ubuntu
[11:09] <slid3r> you got compile utils?
[11:09] <mwe> micahcowan: I they were using their brains they'd just keep selling the tools and let the open source community make the player IMO
[11:09] <spanglesontoast> just wondering if I need some depends...
[11:10] <spanglesontoast> not sure slid3r
[11:10] <micahcowan> mwe, no kidding. no one's gonna make a Flash replacement, that's for sure.
[11:10] <Ash-Fox> apt-get build-dep binutils ?
[11:10] <spanglesontoast> it's an old version of ubuntu as the live doesn't want to install...
[11:10] <spanglesontoast> ok let me try
[11:10] <Ash-Fox> That should install any dev depedencies
[11:10] <spanglesontoast> yea it's done a good few
[11:10] <Lattyware> micahcowan: Isn't that was SVG was meant to be.
[11:11] <Lattyware> *?
[11:11] <McNutella> hiya, is there any simple way of compiling software, as I have never done it before/
[11:11] <micahcowan> Lattyware, sorry, I was referring to the application.
[11:11] <mwe> micahcowan: where did you find the license?
[11:11] <Lattyware> ah
[11:12] <Ash-Fox> McNutella, yes, you need to remember thee two commands:
[11:12] <sanmarcos> McNutella, autopackage, but no, just use binaries, if you cant, then compile, its just as easy as ./configure && make && sudo make install if you have all the prerequisites
[11:12] <Ash-Fox> apt-get build-dep <package name>
[11:12] <Ash-Fox> apt-get --build source <package na,e>
[11:12] <sanmarcos> or use the debian assited way as Ash-Fox said
[11:12] <micahcowan> mwe: http://www.adobe.com/licensing/developer/ ... follow the link that says "View the full license text in a printable format"... and we should really probably stop discussing it here...
[11:13] <Shinzetsu> o_O
[11:13] <McNutella> Ash-Fox, come hither
[11:13] <mwe> micahcowan: yeah I guess so
[11:15] <{K}Lubby> everyone pity me, it took me 5-10 minutes to figure out how to run a .bin file to install java, even with directionis
[11:15] <assaff> hiya
[11:15] <mwe> {K}Lubby: you could have just sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk
[11:16] <assaff> how can i set grub, that on boot i'll 3 seconds to press ESC to get into the menu?
[11:16] <{K}Lubby> oh :\ well i didn't know that
[11:16] <mwe> {K}Lubby: always look for a package first 
[11:17] <{K}Lubby> hmmm apparently it didnt install, went to go play runescape (java game) and it said missing plugin (java)
[11:17] <{K}Lubby> i need the java runtime environment, not jdk
[11:17] <mwe> {K}Lubby: you need to create a symlink
[11:17] <{K}Lubby> so do i do sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[11:18] <|thunder> so this is weird, i am using the mesa nv video driver on a laptop. The only res in xorg.conf is 1600x1200, yet a whole slew of res's show up in system/prefs/screen res.     what gives?  On my desktop system only the res's i manually include in xorg.conf are usable.
[11:18] <{K}Lubby> wait what mwe?
[11:18] <oliva> d
[11:18] <mwe> {K}Lubby: yes. remove what you have now first though
[11:18] <oliva> ola busco novia
[11:18] <{K}Lubby> and how do i uninstall it?
[11:18] <mwe> {K}Lubby: you need to create a symlink for the plugin to work
[11:18] <{K}Lubby> oh i think i found the add/remove programs
[11:18] <{K}Lubby> mwe, how do i create a symlink?
[11:19] <mwe> {K}Lubby: well first install the ubuntu package. I think it takes care of it for you unless you manually upgraded firefox
[11:19] <sanmarcos> ln -s file symlink
[11:20] <{K}Lubby> mwe, where/how do i install the ubuntu package? (im completely new to linux)
[11:20] <mwe> {K}Lubby: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[11:20] <el_isma> oliva: Buscas en un lugar poco apropiado. Aqui es sobre Ubuntu.
[11:20] <Jo4Cim> does anyone know if i must do anyting more after switch to my ISP DNS any more settings ?
[11:21] <{K}Lubby> mwe, it says reading package lists... done, building dependency... done, e: couldn't find package sun-java5-jre
[11:21] <mwe> Jo4Cim: I don't understand your question
[11:21] <{K}Lubby> what do i do?
[11:21] <mwe> {K}Lubby: enable universe and multiverse
[11:22] <ccooke> |thunder: The laptop LCD is reporting a set of resolutions it supports, probably using the EDID protocol. Xorg will take that information in preference to the details in your Xorg config, because it'll be rather more reliable
[11:22] <mwe> !univserse > {K}Lubby
[11:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about univserse  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:22] <mwe> {K}Lubby: see /msg from ubotu
[11:22] <mwe> !universe > {K}Lubby
[11:22] <dmitri> Hello, i want to install ubuntu-desktop onto server, without using the NET. I have the dekstop CD and modified my sources.list so that only the top optin - the CD is left uncommented. Apt-get doesnt find it, can someone help please?
[11:22] <{K}Lubby> okay
[11:22] <KrisW> what kernel should I be using for dapper on a 1ghz duron?
[11:23] <sanmarcos> k7
[11:24] <sanmarcos> linux-image-k7
[11:24] <KrisW> ok how do I update my kernel without killing my ubuntu?
[11:24] <KrisW> :-/
[11:24] <KrisW> I don't want to reinstall or anything
[11:25] <mwe> KrisW: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[11:25] <Madpilot> KrisW, just install it, then restart
[11:25] <KrisW> install what?
[11:25] <KrisW> so confused
[11:25] <KrisW> heh
[11:25] <sanmarcos> "you killed my ubuntu!"
[11:25] <sanmarcos> linux-image-k7 Krhis
[11:25] <{K}Lubby> mwe, the ubotu isn't making sense
[11:25] <KrisW> I'm currently using dapper with 2.6.15-26-386
[11:25] <mwe> KrisW: are you installing a different kernel?
[11:25] <mwe> KrisW: oh
[11:25] <{K}Lubby> mwe: where is the button i hit to install java runtime environment :lol:?
[11:26] <Krhis> sanmarcos, ?
[11:26] <mwe> KrisW: then disregard my previous comment
[11:26] <KrisW> and the support channel people for vmware told me I'm using the wrong kernel
[11:26] <Krhis> Ah, ok.
[11:26] <nkuttler> hm, why do i get a ping: unknown host google.com if dig can lookup the url?
[11:26] <mwe> KrisW: sudo aptitude install linux-image-k7 then reboot
[11:26] <dmitri> How can i do an offline install of ubuntu-desktop?
[11:26] <mwe> {K}Lubby: enable universe
[11:26] <{K}Lubby> mwe: how?
[11:27] <KrisW> mwe, ok I'll try that, thanks
[11:27] <mwe> {K}Lubby: paste /etc/apt/sources.list at paste.ubuntu-nl.org and I'll fix it
[11:27] <{K}Lubby> okay mwe one sec
[11:28] <sanmarcos> mwe, he wont learn like that
[11:28] <{K}Lubby> is there any fancy way to paste it, or do i copy, go to the website, and paste?
[11:28] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/extra-repositories.html
[11:29] <mwe> {K}Lubby: just copy paste. or read what sanmarcos is suggesting
[11:29] <sanmarcos> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[11:29] <sanmarcos> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
[11:29] <sanmarcos> there {K}Lubby
[11:29] <sanmarcos> why wont people use help.ubuntu.com? they are the best docs i've seen in any distro
[11:30] <el_isma> sanmarcos, they are, indeed. They are just buried... many many links away from main page
[11:30] <el_isma> sanmarcos, If they moved them more upfront, I'll bet more people would use them
[11:30] <sanmarcos> yep, and no search on official docs, only community
[11:30] <sanmarcos> and that only searchs titles
[11:30] <el_isma> sanmarcos: Even I, knowing what I want, have a hard time just to get there...
[11:31] <sanmarcos> but oh well, for those who search for the truth.. may we praise them
[11:31] <sanmarcos> el_isma, yelp also has a good search function
[11:31] <Madpilot> el_isma, there's links to the various guides right off help.u.c - not sure how much more 'up front' the page can get
[11:31] <sanmarcos> the ubuntu help is awesome for newbies
[11:31] <thelsdj> anyone notice mouse stops being able to click once in a while? switching virtual desktops with keyboard fixes it, anyone know whats up?
[11:31] <mwe> thelsdj: no
[11:32] <thelsdj> this started last time i updated and rebooted
[11:32] <{K}Lubby> sanmarcos:... so ummm where do i find JRE now?
[11:32] <mwe> {K}Lubby: did you manage to enable universe and multiverse?
[11:32] <sanmarcos> I dont know why people waste their time with java
[11:32] <{K}Lubby> mwe: yeah i did
[11:32] <{K}Lubby> sanmarcos: cause a game i play is made with it
[11:32] <sanmarcos> but just install sun-java5-bin sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin
[11:32] <mwe> {K}Lubby: update then install sun-java5-jre
[11:32] <spanglesontoast> ty slid3r that worked
[11:32] <InuDuelist> It's Runescape, isn't it.
[11:32] <spanglesontoast> gotta go to work peace
[11:33] <el_isma> Madpilot: I'd say more like in the front page. Like: "For Documentation" or "Useful resources"
[11:33] <{K}Lubby> inu: yeah how'd you know?
[11:33] <mwe> sanmarcos: sun-java5-jre takes care of it I think
[11:33] <InuDuelist> That's the only game I know of that uses Java.
[11:33] <thelsdj> theres a cool game called poxnora that uses java too :) and azureus is nice since theres no other good linux gui bittorrent clients
[11:33] <sanmarcos> thelsdj, qtorrent? Transmission?
[11:33] <el_isma> Madpilot: Right now you have to guess (coming from ubuntu.com) that what you need is in "community"
[11:33] <{K}Lubby> mwe: in synaptic package manager is j2re1.4-mozzila-plug what i want?
[11:33] <mwe> {K}Lubby: no
[11:34] <mwe> {K}Lubby: go the the terminal please
[11:34] <{K}Lubby> mwe: okay, there
[11:34] <mwe> {K}Lubby: close synaptic. type sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[11:34] <{K}Lubby> actually mwe: i think i figured it out
[11:34] <lhds> hey on startup i get linux entreprise volume management system errors
[11:34] <thelsdj> sanmarcos: i'd rather have something a little more feature rich, wish there was utorrent port for linux
[11:34] <mwe> {K}Lubby: good. synaptic has a search function I think
[11:34] <{K}Lubby> mwe: i install j2re1.4 then j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin from synaptic
[11:35] <mwe> {K}Lubby: no
[11:35] <thelsdj> sanmarcos: though i'll probably give those a try
[11:35] <mwe> {K}Lubby: that's not it
[11:35] <mwe> {K}Lubby: close synaptic. type sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre in a terminal
[11:35] <sanmarcos> thelsdj, there is a port on the way
[11:35] <sanmarcos> it sucks they dont open source their code
[11:35] <{K}Lubby> mwe: according to the description it is it
[11:35] <mwe> {K}Lubby: it's _not_ sun java 5
[11:36] <sanmarcos> I would port it myself to GTK if they would, even though I loath GTKmm
[11:36] <thelsdj> i really don't like the idea of running qt libs just for qtorrent, and transmission not in aptitude (though i bet theres a repository somewhere)
[11:36] <{K}Lubby> mwe: hold on let me finish downloading it and ill test it and find out
[11:36] <mwe> {K}Lubby: do what like though. it's your computer
[11:37] <james296> how come when I install Automatix Im no longer able to get Epiphany Browser?
[11:37] <davegoodson> Hi, How do I install support to type in Asian languages such as Chinese and Japanese?
[11:38] <davegoodson> I can't find any pages about this.
[11:38] <{K}Lubby> davegoodson: try system -> administration -> language support
[11:38] <{K}Lubby> :P
[11:38] <KrisW> yay the new kernel worked, thanks mwe!
[11:39] <davegoodson> i've tired that before, and i couldn't understand how to switch unless i changed all the OS's language
[11:39] <thelsdj> davegoodson: 
[11:39] <thelsdj> :)
[11:39] <aixing> hey anyone here successfully got a dual screen working with an ati card?
[11:39] <davegoodson> hello adamu :P
[11:40] <{K}Lubby> mwe: i installed the jre 1.4 stuff and it runs runescape now ;O
[11:40] <mwe> KrisW: yw
[11:40] <thelsdj> not sure which docs i used to set this up
[11:40] <thelsdj> davegoodson: you tried  this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JapaneseInputHowToInBreezy
[11:40] <davegoodson> don't think so, ill have a look :) thanks
[11:44] <ken> hi
[11:45] <ken> any1 know how to login as root in ubuntu?
[11:45] <sanmarcos> !root > InuDuelist
[11:45] <ken> hello!~
[11:45] <ken> any one here?
[11:45] <|thunder> yep
[11:45] <zenit> ken: I would suggest to use sudo for all your work. But If you really have to, you can use sudo -i
[11:45] <aixing> yep
[11:46] <{K}Lubby> anyone know any programs like appletalk so that computers on the same network (one running windows xp one running ubuntu) can talk back and forth?
[11:46] <ken> hi, all
[11:46] <Chris-qBT> ken: There is no root account enabled as default but you can enable it using "sudo passwd root"
[11:46] <ken> thx
[11:47] <Chris-qBT> ken: then type your password and you will be able to log as root using "su root"
[11:47] <Chris-qBT> ken: np
[11:47] <longwave> {K}Lubby: you can use samba to share files on ubuntu that can be read on windows
[11:47] <{K}Lubby> longwave: thats not what i want, i want an IM program that is for computer to computer on the same network
[11:48] <longwave> {K}Lubby: gaim with jabber or another IM protocol should work
[11:49] <{K}Lubby> yeah ummm nvm
[11:49] <{K}Lubby> bye bye
[11:49] <jep> hi ppl
[11:50] <jep> which package provide mencoder ?
[11:50] <finalbeta> If a project like http://www.freespire.org/ can deliver a version that has propretarie drivers and codecs. Why doesn't ubuntu do that and let it's users postinstall machines to get them working properly?
[11:50] <Ng> jep: mencoder :)
[11:50] <Ackeubu_> Hey guys, i have infrared on my travelmate laptop. cound someone tell me where to start looking for help with getting it working?
[11:50] <Ng> finalbeta: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/philosophy
[11:51] <|thunder> jep, you should get automatix
[11:51] <el_isma> finalbeta: Legal problems...
[11:51] <|thunder> jep, www.getautomatix.com
[11:51] <finalbeta> el_isma, legal? Why can other distro's do it then?
[11:51] <|thunder> el_isma, cuz their not free
[11:51] <finalbeta> el_isma, it's the philosofy thing, read it
[11:52] <Bazzi> finalbeta: money, being not free
[11:52] <Ackeubu_> Would Lirc be the thing to use to get infrared to work?
[11:52] <finalbeta> Bazzi, propetarie drivers don't cost money, they just are not opensource
[11:52] <Bazzi> finalbeta: codecs have license costs, though
[11:52] <finalbeta> Ackeubu_, Lirc doesn't work on dapper, the version in the repo is 2 years old I believe
[11:53] <Bazzi> and drivers are a religious issue
[11:53] <Bazzi> though ubuntu doesn't make it particularly hard to use them
[11:53] <Flannel> mp3 isn't just non-Free, it's non-free
[11:53] <finalbeta> I find it hard to believe that other distro's would pay for our codecs, and the religious issue doesn't help end users. I want a working system, not one that I have to spend houres setting up after installation
[11:54] <Ackeubu_> finalbeta, would you know if it is possible to get builtin infrared  to work on laptops?
[11:54] <Flannel> finalbeta: they don't pay, they just hope not to get sued.  or, for a good deal of them.  I'm sure there are exceptions
[11:54] <Bazzi> finalbeta: linspire (freespire) has spent money on codec licensing
[11:54] <finalbeta> Ackeubu_, no idea really, It must be possible. On the lirc site they have a much newer version you could try
[11:55] <Bazzi> finalbeta: and it shouldn't take you hours to setup.
[11:55] <finalbeta> For a first time user that's exactly what it takes
[11:55] <Bazzi> windows takes hours to setup with proprietary drivers, since you have to reboot 20 times
[11:55] <finalbeta> only after a couple of times it goes some faster, but with getting the ATI drivers to work, installing codecs, enabling repositories
[11:55] <Flannel> Ackeubu_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LircHowto
[11:56] <Bazzi> well, for a first time user anything takes hours...
[11:56] <Ng> finalbeta: work is being done to improve the information given to users when they try to do/play something that can't be distributed by default
[11:56] <larsemil> my ubuntu is slow as heck... taking 20 sec to start firefox for example. my computer is a really fast one so thats not the problem. it all worked just fine untill recently... have no idea what it is. my mem and cpu levels are just fine
[11:56] <Ng> larsemil: perhaps hard disk DMA?
[11:56] <finalbeta> Ng, yes, read the edgy things.
[11:56] <mwe> larsemil: firefox is slow at starting here as well
[11:56] <Prince_of_Dark> Disculpen, no puedo abrir archivos *.Mp3
[11:56] <Prince_of_Dark> alguien me da una mano
[11:56] <Bazzi> finalbeta: my suggestion is to just give a new user some hints already.
[11:56] <Prince_of_Dark> ???!
[11:56] <Flannel> !es
[11:56] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:57] <larsemil> mwe, but its the same by closing it.. then it hangs for seven seconds and then it closes
[11:57] <Bazzi> so, maybe a link to easyubuntu or some wiki pages on the desktop after installation
[11:57] <larsemil> ng can that change without me doing anything?
[11:57] <mwe> larsemil: that doesn't sound normal, no
[11:57] <Ng> larsemil: yes, although it's not terribly common
[11:57] <finalbeta> Bazzi, after installation they should give new users some sort of automatix.
[11:57] <Bazzi> I agree
[11:57] <Ng> larsemil: also if you're using scsi or sata you don't need to worry about DMA, they always do it
[11:57] <larsemil> Ng, so how do i look upun it
[11:57] <larsemil> Ng,  ah. satadisks here..
[11:58] <Bazzi> or a post-installation "setup wizard"
[11:58] <Ng> larsemil: right, well it's not that then ;)
[11:58] <mwe> larsemil: It does indeed sound like something is wrong though
[11:58] <Ng> finalbeta: Bazzi: specifications for such things exist and are being worked on
[11:58] <finalbeta> Flannel, thnx for the Lirc link.
[11:58] <Bazzi> Ng: nice
[11:58] <finalbeta> great.
[11:58] <larsemil> yes. i am thinking about a fresh install but i ve done so much custom things like compiling my own programs and stuff...
[11:59] <mwe> larsemil: if you don't find the problem it will most likely reappear if you reinstall
[11:59] <davegoodson> Thanks for the help :) 
[11:59] <Ng> finalbeta: also, regarding your question about proprietary codecs and the like, the second paragraph of http://wiki.freespire.org/index.php/Summary_of_Proprietary_Components says "Our license does not permit us to grant redistribution rights" - so you can't give a copy of your freespire disc to your friend. that is not what ubuntu wants.
[12:00] <Ng> but really this is a bit off-topic for this channel ;)
[12:00] <finalbeta> No it's not, it's a resonably question :p
[12:00] <finalbeta> but thnx for the info
[12:00] <larsemil> mwe, u think.. ? i think i could have got some crap into the system.
[12:00] <Ng> the question is ok, but extended discussion about it would be better in -offtopic :)
[12:00] <Flannel> finalbeta: right, but it's a question for #ubuntu-offtopic, not #ubuntu
[12:01] <mwe> larsemil: I _think_ it would
[12:02] <mwe> larsemil: did you try some thing, like if it happens in a failsafe session for example?
[12:02] <pequatre> hi. Can anyone help me with Azureus ? especially Az downloading and installing  swt-3.2-gtk-linux-x86.zip but asking for it to be downloaded again everytime ?
[12:02] <larsemil> mwe, no. and i am going to try it without xgl running to. could be a xglbug
[12:02] <dmitri> could someone help me install ubuntu-desktop onto server, by using dapper CD please
[12:03] <MatthewV> dmitri, is it a alternate or desktop cd?
[12:03] <yc1> urgh
[12:03] <mwe> larsemil: personally I gave up XGL because it caused all kinds of oddness
[12:03] <dmitri> matthewV: desktop CD
[12:03] <MatthewV> dmitri, i don't think its possible with the desktop cd, only the alternate
[12:03] <larsemil> mwe, this would be the only for me. otherwise it works really great
[12:03] <Werdna> hi guys
[12:03] <mwe> larsemil: I'm glad to hear that
[12:04] <dmitri> MatthewV: and where do i get alternate CD?
[12:04] <Flannel> !tell pequatre about azureus
[12:04] <Werdna> you have any suggestions for remote access/thin client solution for ubuntu?
[12:04] <MatthewV> dmitri, this is because the alternate cd contains all the packages to be installed, while the desktop cd contains a compressed filesystem, which is then copied to hdd on installation
[12:04] <MatthewV> dmitri, you could download it, but if you wanted to do that you'd be better off just upgrading without using a cd
[12:05] <Flannel> dmitri: youre trying to install dapper on an existing server (which version) installation?
[12:05] <dmitri> MatthewV: its true, only the server site pays a lot of money for download, whilst i could get ready for it at home (where i have unlimited)
[12:05] <Flannel> or, trying to install a server, via the desktop iso?
[12:05] <pequatre> Flannel, thx but my query's about a CVS update. Azureus was properly installed and working, it is now too but there's this notification.
[12:05] <Werdna> apparently nobody knows.
[12:06] <longwave> Werdna: freenx for a thin client, maybe?
[12:06] <Werdna> longwave, NoMachine?
[12:06] <Flannel> pequatre: ah.  Well, looks like azureus wants you to have that file, and is looking in [place A]  but perhaps not seeing it after it downloads it.  Ubuntu doesn't put everything in the same places as everything else
[12:06] <longwave> Werdna: yes, freenx is an open source implementation of nomachine's server
[12:06] <dmitri> matthewV: and after i donwload the alternate, i just run apt-cdrom add, and uncomment all the other repositories?
[12:06] <Smeggy> anyone got any tips for improving ubuntu battery life?
[12:07] <Flannel> pequatre: you'd be better off asking Azureus people, as its an azureus specific problem
[12:07] <Werdna> ah.
[12:07] <Flannel> dmitri: right, the alternate CD can act as a repository
[12:07] <Flannel> dmitri: make sure you get 6.06.1!
[12:07] <MatthewV> dmitri, yes, you would do that, and that should work, as it will then pull what it can off the cd, and shouldn't need any else
[12:07] <IAskew> for a normal install, are you sposed to burn the desktop or alternative image?
[12:07] <MatthewV> IAskew, desktop
[12:07] <Flannel> IAskew: doesn't matter.  Do you want a graphical or textmode installation?
[12:07] <Werdna> longwave, link?
[12:07] <IAskew> thx MatthewV
[12:07] <mwe> Smeggy: cpu undervolting maybe, make sure the cpu is not loaded
[12:07] <Flannel> IAskew: they both install the same packages
[12:08] <IAskew> thx Flannel
[12:08] <pequatre> Flannel, what's trange is that .azureus is correctly updated, i.e. the files are replaced (checked with ls -lt) so...? i've tried to chmod them to a+x but it doesn't help...maybe i should a+w the config files ?
[12:08] <Flannel> IAskew: alternate ISO provides more control/options (and not having towait for the live CD to boot first), desktop provides click based installation
[12:08] <longwave> Werdna: http://freenx.berlios.de/ and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[12:08] <finalbeta> Some program like VMWare server/Lirc require kernel header files to build. When I install a new kernel thru the update manager, do I need to redownload header files for that kernel, reinstall VMware server/lirc after that?
[12:08] <pequatre> (because .azureus is the place where the files in the .zip archive belong to)
[12:08] <dmitri> MatthewV: thanks, will give it a whirl
[12:09] <Flannel> pequatre: that dependson what azureus wants.  like I said, you should ask them ;)
[12:09] <IAskew> i c Flannel, thx for ur help
[12:09] <mwe> finalbeta: yes
[12:09] <mwe> finalbeta: you need to recompile custom kernel modules
[12:09] <pequatre> Flannel, yes but there's noone on their chan :/
[12:09] <Ng> finalbeta: if you install linux-image-686 and linux-headers-686 (or -386 or -k7, etc) you will always have the latest of each
[12:09] <pequatre> i was hoping someone here would have had the same issue
[12:09] <Flannel> pequatre: they've got tons of channels, someone has to be active somewhere.  Heck, they even have a support channel if you speak klingon
[12:10] <pequatre> lol
[12:10] <mwe> finalbeta: you still need to recompile custom kernel modules when you upgrade the kernel
[12:11] <finalbeta> ok, guess my VMWare server is broken then, will have to find out what exactly to do. Thnx for the info
[12:12] <HiP_P> is there a way of getting a HP scanjet 2100c usb working with xsane?
[12:12] <shawnr_> anyone know any good tips/links on fine tuning you ubuntu box? other than stopping services?
[12:13] <Sharketor> hello
[12:13] <r0wd3> Dont quit you guys, we are in this together.
[12:13] <Sharketor> I have a problem with my print canon i320
[12:13] <larsemil> is there anything else then my /home to backup if i am doing a fresh install?
[12:13] <Flannel> larsemil: /home should contain all your files, unless you have stuff in /var (like apache webpage or whatnot)
[12:13] <shawnr_> lersemil, it depeneds on what you want to save, but not really
[12:13] <Werdna> how do I figure out which version I have?
[12:13] <Ng> larsemil: it might be handy to snag a copy of /etc/ too
[12:13] <Sharketor> I haven't the drive
[12:14] <Werdna> ah, never mind.
[12:14] <Ng> Werdna: lsb_release -a
[12:14] <mopflite> larsemil: it depends really on whether you have created other user data directories elsewhere - some folk create a /data/ directory, for instance
[12:14] <Sharketor> Who have the driver for canon i320?
[12:14] <Sharketor> help me, I am new
[12:14] <larsemil> mopflite, nope. i have that on other disks
[12:14] <shawnr_> anyone know any good tips/links on fine tuning you ubuntu box? other than stopping services?
[12:15] <pequatre> ok found Azureus-support....
[12:16] <Sharketor> :(
[12:18] <Ackeubu_> Flannel, finalbeta just said that lirc didnt work for dapper?!
[12:19] <finalbeta> Ackeubu_, that's the version from the dapper repositories, that guide is using the newest source from the site I believe
[12:19] <Ackeubu_> finalbeta: okay thanks
[12:19] <InuDuelist> ...
[12:20] <InuDuelist> Did he really just do that?
[12:20] <InuDuelist> He left goatse in his quit message?
[12:20] <InuDuelist> Oh, wait.
[12:20] <InuDuelist> Nevermind.
[12:20] <farous> stgraber: does it have webcam with msn? and does it have voice now or not ?
[12:20] <farous> sorry wrong room
[12:20] <farous> :)
[12:21] <ripper> i havent seen anything accept gyachE support cam and voice for *nix and half the time it dont work
[12:21] <quux> Dapper; standard install on a ThinkPad T21 with Cisco 350 wireless. Can't seem to make the wireless capture a DHCP address. Thoughts anyone?
[12:21] <farous> i know of qnext which is java based both work and file sharing too p2p
[12:22] <larsemil> Ng, mwe not running xgl speeded up the computer like 1000%
[12:23] <Flannel> larsemil: makes sense
[12:24] <Ng> larsemil: ahh, yes that would do it :)
[12:24] <larsemil> i will go for xgl in 6 months. then it will be more stable i guess
[12:25] <Flannel> larsemil: it'll be officially supported in Edgy, I believe.
[12:25] <lordpatman> hi
[12:25] <Bazzi> larsemil: go for AIGLX
[12:25] <lordpatman> i have a question, throught the installation from the live-cd, could you select the place where grub should be installed?
[12:25] <larsemil> Bazzi, when is that coming?
[12:26] <Bazzi> larsemil: it's in edgy already
[12:26] <larsemil> Flannel, i heard it will not even be in edgy, like its not in dapper
[12:26] <larsemil> Bazzi, and it does pretty much the same things as xgl?
[12:26] <Bazzi> pretty much yes
[12:27] <Flannel> larsemil: why wouldn't it be in edgy?  It was released too late in the cycle to be included in Dapper
[12:27] <Bazzi> afaik it doesn't do as much as xgl yet but it's less strain on your GPU
[12:27] <unfun> After I reformated my computer I get disconnected all the time from internet. When I start my computer and after some time have passed I get disconnected? This didn't happend before I reformated ubuntu.
[12:28] <Bazzi> Flannel: I haven't seen any movement  on the xgl/compiz route in edgy yet, still old versions in there
[12:28] <rixxon> edgy repos will include vim7, but dapper not?
[12:29] <quux> Dapper; standard install on a ThinkPad T21 with Cisco 350 wireless. Can't seem to make the wireless capture a DHCP address. iwconfig shows a good link to the AP. Thoughts anyone?
[12:29] <Bazzi> rixxon: seems so
[12:30] <rixxon> Bazzi, cool
[12:30] <farous> quux: did you config yoru nameserver in resolv.conf file
[12:30] <Flannel> rixxon: right, vim7 is in edgy, I beleive.
[12:31] <rixxon> yea so it would seem. but it will not come for dapper?
[12:31] <Flannel> rixxon: nope.
[12:31] <b_> i c that Ubuntu can now be installed to USB devices, such as removablehard drives and flash memory, using the text-mode installer. so would i be able to install ubuntu on my ipod and ruin it odd my ipod?
[12:31] <rixxon> i did compile manually, but a package is more consistant to the system ...
[12:31] <rixxon> Flannel, ok thanks
[12:31] <HeXiOn> hi, anybody knows a command to turn off/on monitor from console??? (to use with LIRC)
[12:32] <frogzoo> b_: no way
[12:32] <quux> farous: no. At this point I can't even pull a dhcp address
[12:32] <b_> crap
[12:32] <Pulim> my PC is a Epox 5P945-J Pentium D 2.66 .. wich architeture of Ubuntu I should use?
[12:32] <farous> quux: you are connected to a router right?
[12:32] <rixxon> why shouldn't he be able to run ubuntu from an ipod? isn't it just a question of bios support?
[12:33] <quux> farous: there is no wired connection; only wireless. iwconfig shows link quality 61/100
[12:33] <Flannel> b_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[12:33] <farous> quux: the wireless is through a router right
[12:33] <quux> farous: yes, other systems are using it without issue
[12:34] <marlene> Hi all,
[12:34] <|_BillY_|> hey
[12:34] <marlene> I need some help i guess... I do not quite understand what I do wrong...
[12:35] <InuDuelist> Explain?
[12:35] <InuDuelist> :)
[12:35] <farous> quux: if you run gnome just open the network config menu and add your router address in the dns servers section
[12:35] <farous> quux: you can add it manually to /etc/resolv.conf, nameserver <ip here>
[12:36] <quux> farous: uhm, this network uses a different DNS server. And again - DHCP is working on this network, but the ubuntu/dapper machine does not pull a dhcp address
[12:36] <HiP_P> is there a way of getting a HP scanjet 2100c usb working with xsane?
[12:36] <b_> i got one more question
[12:36] <b_> i thought opera was in ubuntu repositories but i do not see it
[12:36] <quux> I'm not worried about DNS right now; I want DHCP to work.
[12:36] <b_> where is it
[12:36] <b_> i have all repos enabled
[12:37] <marlene> I need to compile a later kernel than the one installed with ubuntu so I downloaded 2.6.17.8 and started to compile but already after make menuconfig I already receive errors .. what's wrong with my machine ?
[12:37] <IAskew> b_ i have it here under non-free/web repo
[12:37] <Flannel> b_: i believe Seveas has it in his repositories, opera might have a deb in its repositories as well.  But no, not in ubuntus repositories
[12:37] <Flannel> !tell b_ about opera
[12:37] <farous> quux: i found it even with dhcp i had to put in the ip address of my router as the dns server
[12:37] <Ng> b_: go into the Add/Remote tool, tick the commercial applications box and search for opera
[12:37] <Ng> "Add/Remove" rather
[12:38] <farous> quux: if you switch between networks often you can install network-manager package
[12:38] <quux> farous: perhaps that is so. But until I can get the system to successfully acquire a DHCP address, DNS is kinda moot
[12:38] <farous> makes life better
[12:39] <not-a-bot> Hello, I'm looking for a tool that shwos me the userdata of an xvid file, if it uses qpel, gmx and its resolution ... and a tool to remove packed bitstream, is there something like that for linux?
[12:39] <lordpatman> is this http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/6.06.1/release/ the right place to donwload ubuntu 6.06.1, although the .iso is named 6.06?
[12:39] <quux> please understand. iwconfig shows the system connected to the right Access Point with the proper WEP key. ifconfig shows the interface has no IP address. dhclient does not successfully acquire an IP address
[12:42] <marlene> hello ? does anyone have seen my question ?
[12:42] <farous> ah ok quux sorry did not know you got right access point
[12:42] <unfun> Why do I get disconnecte when I use ubuntu? Sometimes I just get disconnected from the net? why?
[12:42] <farous> quux: do you use a native linux driver or ndiswrapper
[12:42] <etzerd> good morning all
[12:42] <etzerd> ?
[12:42] <rixxon> morning
[12:42] <marlene> morning
[12:42] <quux> farous: just the standard ubuntu installation
[12:42] <etzerd> can anyone tell me how to install KDE in ubuntu
[12:42] <farous> quux: lsmod |grep ndiswrapper
[12:43] <Flannel> !tell marlene about kernel
[12:43] <etzerd> I type install kubuntu-desktop it doesn't work
[12:43] <marlene> etzerd: sudo apt-get install kde-desktop
[12:43] <Flannel> kubuntu-desktop
[12:43] <IAskew> etzerd, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:44] <marlene> does anyone can help me as well ?
[12:44] <marlene> I have a Kernel queestion
[12:44] <IAskew> sorry marlene i cant help you
[12:44] <Flannel> marlene: did you see the link ubotu sent you?
[12:44] <ripper> marlene maybe i could
[12:44] <etzerd> Thanks guys
[12:44] <quux> farous: sorry, booting to the livecd to check something
[12:44] <etzerd> one more question
[12:44] <IAskew> !kernel > IAskew
[12:45] <farous> quux: if you use the ndiswrapper. the command i sent you returned that ndiswrapper is used. The wrapper still have probs with wep key. I found it not to work on my card with open wep key whatever i did. disabling the wep encr or using wep shared one made it work though
[12:45] <b_> whats a good package that supports all kinds of archive and compression including rar along with password protection since the default archiver is messed up when i apply passwords
[12:45] <marlene> the thing is i need to install a later kernel.. so I downloaded 2.6.17.8 .. i tried to execute make menuconfig and id does not work
[12:45] <ripper> senao and orionoco cards 0wn
[12:45] <quux> farous: ahh, good to know. Unfortunately I cannot reconfig the AP for this one system ...
[12:45] <farous> quux: it differs form one card to the other and from one wireless driver to the other
[12:45] <lordpatman> i have a question
[12:45] <Flannel> marlene: see the link ubotu sent you, it's got all the details you need
[12:45] <etzerd> I like to install the rest of the driver for instance to be able to play DVD, I know there was a website address in ubuntu KIwi is it still there
[12:46] <ripper> !esound
[12:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about esound - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:46] <Flannel> marlene: and, 2.6.17 won't work on Dapper, I don't believe.
[12:46] <neildarlow> how do i resize desktop icons globally? the default size seems a bit large for me
[12:46] <IAskew> !tell Iaskew about kernel
[12:46] <marlene> thanks... I'll check it
[12:47] <ripper> !tell ripper about kernel
[12:47] <Ackeubu_> Flannel: hey again. i already had some version of lirc installed with synaptic. im trying to get it to recieve pics from my pda and my cell phone. so how do i know if lirc is working and how do i use lirc if it is working?
[12:47] <ripper> !kernel
[12:47] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[12:47] <Flannel> Ackeubu_: no idea, I don't have a laptop, or any sort of IR stuff ;)
[12:48] <ripper> !wmv
[12:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:48] <xukun> any one here using dell inspiron 9300 with Dapper?
[12:48] <ripper> !selinux
[12:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about selinux - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:48] <Flannel> Ackeubu_: theres a link at the bottom of the wiki page for general lirc configurations, if I remember correctly
[12:48] <ripper> anyone ever tried using selinux on the desktop or grsecurity?
[12:48] <bimberi> neildarlow: change the Icon View Defaults setting in Edit->Prefs of a Nautilus window
[12:49] <quux> farous: it is using the 'airo' driver
[12:49] <neildarlow> bimberi: thanks, will try
[12:49] <ripper> it's too bad ubuntu doesnt provide hardend sources , atleast i havent seen anything about it
[12:50] <farous> quux: never worked with it sorry. perhaps others can help you then
[12:50] <Ackeubu_> Flannel: I tryid to use the lirchowto but got errors on make modules. so Im screwed in that regard. lirc_dev doesnt seem to be on my system when doing a locate lirc_dev. so..I dont know where I am and where to go.. >P
[12:50] <Flannel> ripper: SELinux was deferred from dapper, it's on the books.
[12:50] <ripper> grsecurity is better imho
[12:51] <ripper> !gcc
[12:51] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:51] <ripper> anyone know if ubuntu implemented the ibm stack protection with gcc?
[12:52] <neildarlow> bimberi: thanks. adjusting to 75% did what i wanted
[12:52] <lordpatman> where can i download the new ubuntu release, i cannot find a cd iso, i only found a dvd.iso
[12:53] <unfun> How do I install flashplayer?
[12:53] <ripper> sudo apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree
[12:53] <ripper> i think
[12:53] <ripper> or sudo apt-get install flashplayer
[12:53] <unfun> think?
[12:53] <unfun> :)
[12:54] <ripper> i dont use it
[12:54] <gvt> hi@all ... plz tell me where i have to go for bash scripting etc.  is there a channel in IRC available ?
[12:54] <jbrimble> guys, i need some help. My X configuration is stuffed up and it won't load up. Is there an automatic configuration utility that will fix it?
[12:54] <IAskew> unfun, its in multiverse
[12:54] <MatthewV> jbrimble, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:54] <Snake007uk> anyone know of a good project management tool for ubuntu
[12:54] <jbrimble> thankyou MatthewV
[12:54] <unfun> ask, where is multiverse?
[12:54] <scrizt> could anyone help me with cups ? "# lpadmin -p print -i interface" fails with permission denied.
[12:55] <MatthewV> !multiverse
[12:55] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:55] <IAskew> in ur sources.list
[12:55] <unfun> hwre is sourcelsit
[12:55] <MatthewV> unfun, /etc/apt/sources.list but i would suggest taking a look at some of the above links
[12:55] <scrizt> "lpadmin: Unable to copy interface script - Permission denied!"
[12:56] <quux> hrm, browsing the forums, seems many others are having similar probs with the cisco wireless
[12:58] <Chilly> uit
[12:59] <Marsmensch> haver there any updates on the cups system been since last monday?
[12:59] <lesce> whereis the ubuntu logo (the one from the menu bar) located in ubuntu 6.06 ?
[12:59] <rsk> generally? or in ubuntu
[12:59] <Marsmensch> in ubuntu
[01:00] <lesce> it's not in /usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-logo-icon-transparent.png
[01:01] <Marsmensch> i have a brother hl2030 installed ... worked fine on linux ... but now there seems to be a problem
[01:01] <kris> anyone got amarok visualizations working - out of the box?
[01:02] <Snake007uk> anyone know of a project management software for ubuntu
[01:02] <Crazed> hi
[01:02] <Crazed> got a little problem :D
[01:02] <rivanvx> Marsmensch: what kinds of problem?
[01:02] <goki-> Snake007uk, there's the project planner GANTT thing, it's not great to be honest
[01:02] <scrizt> cups-expretise anyone ?
[01:03] <Crazed> some how my MBR got messed up
[01:03] <Crazed> now I fixed it
[01:03] <Snake007uk> goki-:  i just need something simoke
[01:03] <Snake007uk> simple
[01:03] <Marsmensch> rivanvx: it doesn't print anymore
[01:03] <Crazed> but it detects my filesystem wrong
[01:03] <Crazed> it detects it as ext2
[01:03] <Crazed> but its ext3
[01:03] <Marsmensch> Crazed: thats ok
[01:03] <Crazed> ?
[01:03] <Crazed> its not :P
[01:03] <Crazed> when I boot
[01:04] <sanmarcos> ext2 is the same as ext3
[01:04] <Crazed> I get a message that my superblock might be corrupted
[01:04] <mcphail> Crazed: ext2 and ext3 are essentially the same
[01:04] <_w^x_> I need some recommendations on a good web development IDE for xhtml, css, javascript, ajax, etc.. etc..
[01:04] <Crazed> well why is it called xext3 then ?
[01:04] <Crazed> -x
[01:04] <sanmarcos> journaling
[01:04] <Chousuke> Crazed: it has journalling
[01:04] <mcphail> Crazed: it has an added journal
[01:04] <rivanvx> Marsmensch: any related bug in bug tracker?
[01:04] <rixxon> _w^x_, bluefish?
[01:04] <Crazed> and why do I get a error when diskcheck is trying to run
[01:04] <Crazed> that I need to fix it manual
[01:05] <Marsmensch> doen't know
[01:05] <Crazed> very annoying to press ctrl+d all the time when I reboot
[01:06] <Jhair> _w^x_: eclipse+jboss ide is a nice IDE
[01:06] <sanmarcos> visual studio/monodevelop is excellent too
[01:06] <Crazed> isnt there a way to fix it ?
[01:07] <scrizt> why do "sudo lpadmin" fail with permission denied ? seems strange that root can't add a printer queue :|
[01:07] <_w^x_> I'm not do'n any jav
[01:07] <_w^x_> *java
[01:08] <_w^x_> LAMP ajax, css, xhtml is all
[01:09] <Werdna> hi guys
[01:09] <Werdna> I'm having trouble setting up freenx on Dapper
[01:09] <mcphail> Crazed: does rebooting with "sudo shutdown -F -r now" help?
[01:09] <Crazed> ehm ?
[01:09] <Crazed> dont know
[01:09] <Crazed> will try
[01:09] <Jhair> _w^x_: OK, then try vi
[01:10] <mcphail> Crazed: it will probably sort itself out after a proper fsck
[01:10] <Marsmensch> hmmm i updated my other computer now i get an error message, during printing: Quota limit reached.
[01:10] <Crazed> only perform a fsck ?
[01:11] <mcphail> Crazed: that command will reboot and do a fsck before mounting the disks
[01:11] <Crazed> well it asks for manual chk
[01:11] <Crazed> so think I have to do it at that moment ?
[01:11] <kris> anyone out there with glue about amarok and libvisuals?
[01:12] <Tarandus> What should I do if X (xlsfonts) refuses to see xfonts-dosemu, or any of its fonts as installed?
[01:13] <Tarandus> The path where they get installed is erroneously an old path, but even after adding that to xorg.conf I can't see the fonts
[01:13] <Tarandus> What does one generally do to add .pcf fonts to X?
[01:14] <J_P> hi all
[01:15] <ynef> Tarandus: this might be of help: http://anakin.ncst.ernet.in/~aparna/consolidated/x1092.html
[01:16] <scrizt> Is there anywhere to get help with cups under ubuntu ?
[01:18] <solstice> hi. i ahve edited /etc/crypttab and /etc/fstab but i still have that popup when i login that prompt for a passwd but freeze after that. may be because cryptsetup in ubuntu bgus me ftwo times for a passwd in CLI ?
[01:18] <jrib> scrizt: we can only tell after you ask your real question :)
[01:19] <Ych> yaaay
[01:19] <scrizt> jrib: scrizt@dosmas:~$ sudo lpadmin -p C552n-default -i /usr/lexprint/etc/model/lexprintmodel
[01:19] <scrizt> lpadmin: Unable to copy interface script - Permission denied!
[01:19] <solstice> ah the update manager to have crashed :-( nice ubuntu
[01:19] <solstice> +seems
[01:20] <solstice> no :-) just minimzied /o\
[01:21] <NFY> I need help reinstalling GRUB. is there a way or do I have to reinstall the whole thing again?
[01:21] <rivanvx> NFY: grub-install?
[01:22] <ynef> NFY: why do you need to reinstall it? did you remove some of its files?
[01:22] <NFY> thx  rivanvx :)
[01:22] <Werdna> apparently nobody knows.
[01:22] <IAskew> if u mess about editing your boot list, do u just need to run grub-install afterward?
[01:23] <ynef> IAskew: yup
[01:23] <IAskew> thx ynef
[01:23] <jrib> scrizt: I meant to just ask the channel.  I don't know anything about using lpadmin.  Did system > administration > printing not work for you?
[01:23] <NFY> no, I had to reinstall windows and grub is gone.
[01:23] <gean> hi all
[01:23] <jrib> !grub > NFY
[01:23] <Ych> hi
[01:23] <scrizt> jrib, i dont know how to specify a SysV-style interface with the controlpanel ..
[01:24] <ynef> gean: hi
[01:24] <IAskew> !grub > IAskew
[01:24] <IAskew> i love that bot
[01:24] <kris> IAskew: me2
[01:25] <NFY> !grub I tried this and "permission denied"
[01:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about grub I tried this and "permission denied" - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:25] <ynef> !grub > ynef
[01:26] <kris> !grub > NFY
[01:26] <ynef> kris: not particularly helpful, since he just did that
[01:26] <kris> ynef: ok. your right - soryy
[01:27] <kris> wont't happen again :-)
[01:27] <ynef> NFY: at what point do you get that message?
[01:27] <NFY> btw, I cant get back to the install, atm I'm running direct from CD.
[01:27] <NFY> directly after hitting enter.
[01:28] <ynef> NFY: ...and what did you write before hitting enter?
[01:28] <IAskew> NFY, have u typed 'rescue' at the prompt when u boot etc?
[01:29] <Tarandus> There is something wrong with xfonts-dosemu
[01:29] <Tarandus> It installs 4 fonts, but the size of the pcf.gz files is 20 bytes
[01:29] <Tarandus> No kilobytes or anything, I checked it, but 20 bytes
[01:30] <ynef> Tarandus: it sounds weird -- can you unpack it?
[01:31] <Tarandus> Adept says that the files are all 20 bytes long
[01:31] <kris> NFY: btw - you can tell your mswindows bootloader to boot ubuntu
[01:31] <NFY> how can I boot via windows boot?
[01:32] <Tarandus> Unpacked, their size is zero
[01:32] <ynef> Tarandus: now that *is* weird :(
[01:32] <Tarandus> xfonts-dosemu 1.1.1-3build1 from multiverse/x11
[01:32] <Tarandus> No, 1.2.2-3build1 I mean
[01:32] <edgy> Hi, I added a ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/ to make my lists.domain.com/mailman works but I want lists.domain.com to be an alias instead what shall I do, please?
[01:33] <NFY> just make a new option with the HDAx as the way to boot?
[01:33] <daunt> hello
[01:33] <daunt> looks like loadkeys is borked on my ubuntu (dapper) .. anyone know of a fix?
[01:33] <NFY> I'll try a few things I found here. of not I'll be bak. thanks guys :)
[01:33] <_w^x_> damn it, I got TVtime working, I have a Conexant CX23880. My audio is not working. I have checked all the mixer settings, checked TVtime's audio settings and still no sound
[01:34] <sjk> I'm trying to install Kubuntu on a mac powerbook G3. I'm having trouble installing the boot loader though. Would it be a bad idea to "reformat" the -entire- disk (including boot space)?
[01:34] <sjk> There's a 32.3KB partition, format "apple". Also, the installer makes the boot partition 1 meg. Isn't that a -tad- bit too small?
[01:35] <kris> Anyone out there who has amrok with libvisuals0.2 running?
[01:36] <scrizt> argh! who are packaging cups for ubuntu ?
[01:36] <Werdna> anybody here know about freenx on Ubuntu?
[01:37] <Werdna> dapper
[01:37] <ab0rted> can someone please help me?, I'm buying a new cam, but I want one that ubuntu supports, any suggestions please?
[01:37] <mcphail> ab0rted: most Canons deem fine
[01:37] <mcphail> *seem
[01:38] <Tarandus> I assume I should not file bugs against multiverse packages.  Am I correct?
[01:38] <ab0rted> mcphail, how do I know to get the right one?
[01:38] <neutrinomass> Tarandus: Nah, you should.... especially if it's a packaging issue...
[01:38] <Tarandus> Ok, doing that immediately
[01:39] <neutrinomass> Tarandus: If it's a functionality bug though, you hopefully understand that the chances of getting it fixed are slim
[01:39] <ab0rted> mcphail, thanks anyways, I will check a few
[01:39] <mcphail> ab0rted: i don't know of any hardware lists which are very up to date. What sort of camera are you looking for?
[01:40] <ab0rted> mcphail, well I'm looking for a digital cam similar to the one I have
[01:40] <ynef> ##python
[01:40] <ynef> oops
[01:40] <ynef> :-)
[01:40] <mcphail> ab0rted: which is...
[01:41] <ab0rted> mcphail, Digital camera/webcam
[01:41] <bret> hi
[01:41] <ab0rted> mcphail, a few dont have that feature
[01:41] <ab0rted> ;s
[01:42] <IAskew> in the grub instructions, is says 'type $ grub-install /dev/hdaX where X is your Ubuntu root install'. Does this mean type hdc1 where xp resides or hdc3 where linux is?
[01:42] <Kit^> I'm having trouble installing ubuntu on my laptop could anyone help?
[01:42] <ab0rted> mcphail, I dont know how to explain my cam, It didnt come with an instruction manual or any sort of drivers, cheap $25 ;s
[01:43] <ab0rted> maybe the guy i bought it from stole it
[01:43] <ab0rted> i dunno
[01:43] <ab0rted> ;s
[01:43] <mcphail> ab0rted: you need to buy a better camera ;p
[01:43] <ab0rted> mcphail, yes i do
[01:43] <mcphail> ab0rted: i have never used a webcam in ubuntu
[01:43] <mcphail> ab0rted: i don't know what support is like
[01:44] <llama32> i have a tooltip that won't go away from a konqueror window i closed... i tried xkill but it just did nothing... how do i get rid of it?
[01:44] <mcphail> ab0rted: but my advice would be to but a separate camera and webcam
[01:44] <lucas> webcams in ubuntu work fine if supported by linux
[01:44] <lucas> spca5xx ones work very well for example
[01:44] <ab0rted> mcphail, I want to plug it in and running, I have been looking for drivers for this cam for *nix
[01:44] <ab0rted> and nothing
[01:45] <mcphail> ab0rted: most _decent_ cameras are supported. A $25 novelty is less likely
[01:45] <Kit^> i tried installing ubuntu and click install from text not OEM but when i do this it loads the files and then slowly my screen starts going white. which i dont understand it also does this when trying to install debian using the netinstall, but not if i try installing windows. Has anyone got any idea of how i can fix the problem/??
[01:45] <mcphail> ab0rted: if the worst comes to the worst, you could always use a card reader to get your photos
[01:46] <IAskew> in the grub instructions, is says 'type: 'grub-install /dev/hdaX' where X is your Ubuntu root install'. Does this mean type hdc1 where xp resides or hdc3 where linux is?
[01:46] <ab0rted> mcphail, but I also want to use it as webcam
[01:46] <gean> by the way: Ubuntu-Linux scripting Q: All the years the command :  find . -name *.tex was ok, i got all tex-files in the . dir, but now i get some error m ess: find: paths must precede expression // Usage: find [-H]  [-L]  [-P]  [path...]  [expression]  ; Hmm.. What's wrong there ?!
[01:47] <mcphail> ab0rted: as i said, i have no experience of such things. Sorry
[01:47] <ab0rted> mcphail, anyways, thanks for the help, I'll check Cannon cams
[01:47] <mcphail> ab0rted: they are excellent cameras
[01:47] <Stormx2> heya everyone, whats up?
[01:48] <Flamekebab> I'm in the UK and I need a PCMCIA wireless card that will work OOTB with X/Ubuntu, as cheap as possible, any help?
[01:48] <zipper_> I'm having some trouble installing kubuntu on my asus a6r laptop. Basicly the installer won't even boot up in "safe grafics mode". It just stalls at "Uncompressing linux... Ok, booting the kernel". What to do?
[01:49] <IAskew> can anybody answer my question about grub-install?
[01:49] <gatekeeper> anyone know how to modify the port number on xchat (where have they hidden it)?
[01:49] <IdleOne> IAskew, where linux is
[01:49] <mcphail> Flamekebab: most cheap UK cards use broadcom chips. When i used one, i needed ndiswrapper but i think this may have changed
[01:49] <IAskew> so hdc3 rather than hdc1 where xp is?
[01:49] <Kit^> zipper_: thats oudns similar to me like hwen i tryt installing ubuntu it shows that line and then my screen slowly turns white!!
[01:49] <IAskew> IdleOne,
[01:50] <zipper_> Kit^, mine doesnt turn white, it just stalls there
[01:50] <Flamekebab> mcphail, http://www.linuxemporium.co.uk/products/wireless/ - is that a reasonable price?
[01:50] <Flamekebab> I have wireless working on this laptop using NDISWrapper, but I'd rather not have to mess with all that sort of thing if at all possible
[01:50] <Kit^> zipper_ seems to be stalling at the same point - mines an old mesh laptop
[01:51] <Flamekebab> the only reason I succeeded with this laptop is due to another linux user with exactly the same lappy created a step-by-step idiots' guide
[01:51] <mcphail> Flamekebab: if the card genuinely uses a ralink chipset then it is a good price. But I have a card very similar to that one and it is broadcom :(
[01:51] <zipper_> Kit^, it's wierd, i've read about people having trouble with the soundcard in my laptop with (k)ubuntu, but that means they actually managed to install it
[01:51] <zipper_> if i could only get that far
[01:52] <solstice>  /etc/init.dcryptdisks show up a [OK]  but no crypted partitions are mounted. how could i know what's wrong
[01:52] <Flamekebab> mcphail, well they claim it works OOTB with Ubuntu
[01:52] <Kit^> zipper_ yeh same if only i could get far enough for it actually to install
[01:52] <Flamekebab> I have other wireless cards by Belkin which don't seem to work OOTB
[01:52] <Flamekebab> but I've not tried the PCMCIA variants
[01:53] <mcphail> Flamekebab: if the website claims it is ralink and it turns out not to be, you would be within your rights for a refund
[01:53] <Flamekebab> schwing!
[01:53] <Flamekebab> ehe
[01:53] <alphanaut> well hello everyone
[01:54] <IdleOne> solstice, whats the problem?
[01:54] <kris> solstice: in this case try www.google.com
[01:54] <alphanaut> I can't get my XQL/Compiz to work
[01:54] <scrizt> its boring to go googling when the problem is ubuntu-specific :/
[01:54] <Godsey> I'm new, could someone point me to where I'll find Ubuntu Server for download?  I've found launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-server/
[01:54] <alphanaut> I did it once, but then I upgraded the kernel
[01:54] <Flamekebab> mcphail, I've found a nice little Toshiba 3490CT on eBay and another friend of mine recently got his mitts on one. He's got Xubuntu on it and tells me it runs wonderfully. Suspend/hibernate also seems to work on it. It's a really small laptop too, about the size of a small text-book, so I'm going to get one for Uni, but being a poor student, I need a cheap wireless card
[01:55] <snoops> then you'll want to go to #ubuntu-xgl alphanaut, which is a dedicated room for xgl/compiz in ubuntu
[01:55] <alphanaut> Godsey, www.distrowatch.com
[01:55] <alphanaut> thx snoops
[01:55] <zipper_> Kit^, you could try using the text-based installer instead, since your problem may or may not be related to your gfxcard. I dont think my problem is gfx based though
[01:55] <Godsey> Flamekebab: I am about to put it on a Dell L400 (3lb)
[01:55] <IAskew> Godsey, http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[01:55] <Flamekebab> Godsey, what's that in kilos?
[01:55] <mcphail> Flamekebab: 21 quid seems ok to me
[01:55] <Flamekebab> sounds good
[01:56] <Godsey> humm 3*2.2 so 6.6kilos
[01:56] <Godsey> kilograms
[01:56] <Flamekebab> 6.6 kilos?!
[01:56] <Godsey> er no
[01:56] <Flamekebab> hehe
[01:56] <Godsey> er wait :)
[01:56] <Flamekebab> I was going to say!
[01:56] <Godsey> is it 3/2.2? :)
[01:56] <Flamekebab> I think so
[01:56] <snoops> alphanaut may need to wait a bit after explaining your problem in as much detail as possible.. not a lot of people.. they check when they can
[01:56] <Godsey> 1.35 or so
[01:56] <Flamekebab> nice
[01:57] <Gun_Smoke> I have 3 computer in my house.. 2 wireless and 1 wired.. How can I get them all to share files?
[01:57] <Flamekebab> I think this one is around 1.5 kilos
[01:57] <snoops> Gun_Smoke are they all running linux?
[01:57] <Gun_Smoke> Snoops, no.
[01:57] <Kit^> zipper_ i tried using the text based one that was the one i was running and it happened!!
[01:57] <Godsey> IAskew: So I follow the links for Ubuntu 6.06 LTS to get to Server? I guess I was expecting to see another set of links :)
[01:57] <snoops> okay, nfs is out then.. so samba
[01:58] <IAskew> where are you based Godsey ?
[01:58] <alphanaut> Does Ubuntu/debian any Directory-service like Fedora/redhat?
[01:58] <effendi> hello
[01:58] <Gun_Smoke> 1 window, 1 OS X, 1 Linux
[01:58] <Godsey> I'm in Syracuse, NY but downloading to Seattle.
[01:58] <Godsey> I'll try the pdx mirror
[01:58] <Flamekebab> the awesome thing about the laptop I'll be getting is the fact that another local linux geek has it and so has done the leg-work for me!
[01:58] <zipper_> Kit^, dunno then
[01:58] <Flamekebab> I mean, I could do it on my own, but I've enough on my mind as it is
[01:59] <Godsey> going to try installing as a xenU host
[01:59] <Pirate_D> Hey gang. Can someone point me to were I can find doc's on how to install applications?
[01:59] <snoops> Gun_Smoke, yep.. samba.. it's built into ubuntu.. go system>administration>shared folders to add them
[01:59] <Godsey> I have a feeling I'll have to install under vmware on my desktop and make a tar of the disk image
[02:00] <snoops> then other pcs should be able to see the share by going (for win) \\ubuntupcname\sharename  (osx and linux) //computername/sharename
[02:00] <zipper_> Pirate_D, you wanna look into the application for installing packages, "Synaptic Package Manager"
[02:00] <Kit^> zipper_ tis strange
[02:00] <snoops> os x has its own samba sharing system.. check in settings
[02:02] <jrib> !synaptic > Pirate_D
[02:02] <snoops> and windows uses samba anyway.. so in windows just right click a folder then properties, then sharing.. if that's not there you'll need to untick use simple file sharing from explorer>tools>folder options>view untick it, and well then you're pretty set
[02:03] <Godsey> is it possible for me to install a Debian 3.1 xen image and upgrade it to ubuntu server?
[02:03] <zipper_> I'm having some trouble installing kubuntu on my asus a6r laptop. Basicly the installer won't even boot up in "safe grafics mode". It just stalls at "Uncompressing linux... Ok, booting the kernel". What to do?
[02:03] <acojlo> I have problem with evolution: when I start it it gives me "welcome" screen with options to create account, but I have already set evolution and there is ~/.evolution folder with all the data
[02:03] <Gun_Smoke> snoops:  Thanks.. I'll be giving it a try.. I'll let you know if I run into any hangups.
[02:03] <Stormx2> How can I check what video card I have? ;_;
[02:04] <jrib> Stormx2: lspci
[02:04] <kris> Stormx2: lsmod and lspci is a good point to start
[02:05] <kris> !lspci > Stormx2
[02:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about lspci  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:05] <Stormx2> nVidia Corporation NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro]  (rev 15) <-- I guess that doesn't support XGL :'(
[02:05] <rsk> Stormx2: it does
[02:05] <Stormx2> oh? OK
[02:05] <zanpakuto> hello, during install you can select manual partitioning. what is the command of that partitioning program?
[02:05] <Stormx2> ^.^
[02:06] <iron[work] > hello
[02:06] <Gun_Smoke> snoops:  I've set up 2 shared folders.. smb and nfs.. Now from osx to locate the folder what do I need to do?
[02:06] <snoops> Stormx2 wouldn't put much faith in it though
[02:06] <kris> zanpakuto: cfdisk as far as I remember
[02:06] <snoops> Gun_Smoke umm in finder I think you can choose network?
[02:07] <kris> !cfdisk > kris
[02:07] <ubotu> I know nothing about cfdisk  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:07] <Stormx2> snoops: Why not
[02:07] <snoops> and select your ubuntu pc from that
[02:07] <snoops> Stormx2 because of the age of the card
[02:07] <snoops> it's gonna run slow I guess is what I'm getting at
[02:07] <Gun_Smoke> snoops:  It's not listed.
[02:08] <snoops> Gun_Smoke okay, well I have little experience with os x.. so from windows..
[02:08] <Flamekebab> cheerio, guys
[02:08] <snoops> in the address bar for explorer.. \\ubuntupcname\sharename
[02:08] <zanpakuto> hmmm.... seems not cfdisk
[02:08] <snoops> obiviously replacing those with the relevant ones
[02:09] <kris> zanpakuto: at least you can partion your hd with that
[02:09] <zipper_> Does (k)ubuntu come with ati drivers in any form? As in, could my ati 200m be the reason the installer does not boot up?
[02:09] <nelso1> I don't have sound on xawtv. Only noise..
[02:09] <nelso1> what is the problem?
[02:10] <acojlo> problem with evolution - account gone, but they are in ~/.evolution
[02:10] <zanpakuto> kris, yup. I just like the partitioning interface during install. :)
[02:10] <Stormx2> snoops: XD OK.
[02:11] <NineTeen67Comet> Anyone in here running three monitors? (I've got a pci dual head and an agp dual head card and no matter how I config it I can only run two monitors at a time. Either one on each card, or both off the agp card) ..
[02:11] <A[D] minS> !sophos
[02:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about sophos - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:11] <iron[work] > !mdf2iso
[02:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about mdf2iso - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:11] <hellokthulu> hey!
[02:12] <A[D] minS> Guys can i know " if sophos can work with ubuntu or not? "
[02:12] <xelados> I've installed Frostwire, but it needs Java to run. Is there a package I can apt-get, or do I have to install JRE from Sun's site?
[02:12] <snoops> NineTeen67Comet yeah you can do it.. I've seen it.. umm search for triple monitor in ubuntu forums I guess?
[02:12] <xelados> I tried java-common, but it didn't make frostwire work
[02:12] <mopflite> A[D] minS: sophos is an a/v software solution for windows machines, is it not?
[02:12] <hellokthulu> hey -- how do I find out/configure which video card X thinks I have?  It's not *quite* rght out of the box...
[02:13] <A[D] minS> mopflite, linux  too
[02:13] <Gun_Smoke> snoops:  That didn't work either
[02:13] <mopflite> really?
[02:13] <hellokthulu> xelados: I got Automatix, and used that to get Java
[02:13] <A[D] minS> mopflite, yes
[02:14] <xelados> synaptic didn't return any results for "automatix"
[02:14] <NineTeen67Comet> snoops: Yeah ran down that gauntlet last night .. Googled my brains out today, and no luck. I've found a few xorg.conf files and tried to adapt them here and there but it's still elusive. I've got three new 19" Widescreen LCD monitors coming in the mail .. hopefully I can get it fired up before they arrive .. lol
[02:14] <snoops> try by ip address Gun_Smoke
[02:14] <sk> any suggestions for a webradio client (something like streamtuner with an integrated player)?
[02:14] <hellokthulu> xelados: http://www.getautomatix.com/
[02:14] <alphanaut> is there any grafic tool for grub?
[02:14] <Gun_Smoke> snoops: How can I find out each machines IP?
[02:15] <threat2> where is there deb package that allows me to watch encrypted DVDs?
[02:15] <alphanaut> Gun_Smoke, xterm: # ifconfig
[02:15] <alphanaut> is there any grafic tool for grub?
[02:15] <ych> yay
[02:15] <ych> true dualview
[02:15] <threat2> where is libdvdcss?
[02:15] <acojlo> is firestarter just 'configurator' for iptables or it need to be 'resident' in memory?
[02:15] <jrib> !dvd
[02:15] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:16] <snoops> Gun_Smoke ifconfig for os x too Gun_Smoke, and ipconfig for windows
[02:16] <mwe> alphanaut: do you mean cofig tool?
[02:16] <threat2> thanx
[02:16] <alphanaut> mwe, yeah a grafical frontend
[02:16] <threat2> why even bother using encryption on DVDs?  stupid
[02:16] <mwe> alphanaut: no
[02:16] <I_Dont_Like_Nazi> bah
[02:16] <alphanaut> darn
[02:16] <I_Dont_Like_Nazi> stupid the linux
[02:16] <I_Dont_Like_Nazi> wlan0 is not present
[02:16] <I_Dont_Like_Nazi> :(
[02:17] <mwe> !wifi > I_Dont_Like_Nazi
[02:17] <effendi> welcome
[02:17] <I_Dont_Like_Nazi> ....
[02:17] <alphanaut> mwe, then I have to learn grub... lilo is so much easier
[02:17] <I_Dont_Like_Nazi> i configured ndiswrapper properl
[02:17] <I_Dont_Like_Nazi> y
[02:17] <I_Dont_Like_Nazi> it says driver installed, hardware present
[02:17] <mwe> alphanaut: it is? I haven't noticed that
[02:17] <xelados> hellokthulu: Thanks for that link. This should help
[02:17] <xelados> :D
[02:17] <hellokthulu> np
[02:18] <I_Dont_Like_Nazi> mwe: Its just that wlan0 isn't starting up, it says no such device
[02:18] <mwe> alphanaut: the syntax is a little different but I don't think it's harder
[02:18] <I_Dont_Like_Nazi> all of my linux friends are having a very rough time with it
[02:18] <alphanaut> mwe, what I need to do is removing the old kernels
[02:18] <SeanTater> I_Dont_Like_Nazi: tried modprobe ndiswrapper ?
[02:18] <I_Dont_Like_Nazi> ever heard of this problem?
[02:18] <I_Dont_Like_Nazi> yes
[02:18] <alphanaut> mwe, do you know how?
[02:18] <I_Dont_Like_Nazi> then ndiswrapper -m for startup
[02:18] <mwe> alphanaut: uninstall them from the system and run sudo update-grub
[02:18] <alphanaut> oh..
[02:18] <alphanaut> ok
[02:18] <mwe> alphanaut: or gksudo gedit /etc/grub/menu.lst
[02:19] <b_> can someone tell me what is the difference between unix and linux, clam av is a antivirus scanner for unix but it can run on ubuntu linux, why am i so confused
[02:19] <mwe> alphanaut: and remove the entries
[02:19] <I_Dont_Like_Nazi> ideas why wlan0 wont startup, and is called "Device not found"?
[02:19] <mwe> I_Dont_Like_Nazi: does it show with ifconfig or ifconfig -a?
[02:19] <I_Dont_Like_Nazi> b_: Command line is one thing thats dif
[02:19] <I_Dont_Like_Nazi> it does show ifconfig
[02:19] <Stormx2> OK, X didn't boot with the nvidia drivers :(
[02:19] <I_Dont_Like_Nazi> it shows lo and lan0
[02:20] <Gun_Smoke> snoops:  I don't know where to find ipconfig for windows... I don't use them much.
[02:20] <I_Dont_Like_Nazi> and iwconfig shows no wireless extensions for 2 of them
[02:20] <alphanaut> mwe, Im on Drapper drake, so my menu.lst is in /boot/grub/
[02:20] <mwe> I_Dont_Like_Nazi: well are you using WEP or WPA?
[02:20] <I_Dont_Like_Nazi> nope
[02:20] <b_> um ok still kinda confused
[02:20] <b_> so whats the difference, is unix linix
[02:20] <mwe> I_Dont_Like_Nazi: two of them? which ones?
[02:20] <I_Dont_Like_Nazi> um... lo and eth0 i think?
[02:20] <hellokthulu> in windows it's "ipconfig"
[02:20] <mwe> alphanaut: yeah sorry
[02:20] <xelados> b_: Linux is a derivative of UNIX.
[02:20] <snoops> Gun_Smoke start>run>cmd
[02:20] <I_Dont_Like_Nazi> w/e the defaults are
[02:21] <mjr> b_, Linux is an Unix-like operating system
[02:21] <mwe> alphanaut: it's the same in breezy
[02:21] <I_Dont_Like_Nazi> i am on kanotix, but i felt like asking people who spoke english, ya know?
[02:21] <mjr> b_, it's not officially Unix(TM), not having been certified, but "close enough"
[02:21] <xelados> gpg: requesting key 2F306651 from hkp server subkeys.pgp.net
[02:21] <zipper_> I'm having some trouble installing kubuntu on my asus a6r laptop. Basicly the installer won't even boot up in "safe grafics mode". It just stalls at "Uncompressing linux... Ok, booting the kernel". Anyone have any suggestions?
[02:21] <xelados> And it's lagging
[02:21] <xelados> :\
[02:21] <I_Dont_Like_Nazi> kanotix = form of knoppix, (just in case you didnt know)
[02:21] <mjr> b_, and as for AV for Unix, they've just named their product generically
[02:22] <mjr> (and a bit inaccurately)
[02:22] <alphanaut> mwe, How do I install the modifyed menu.lst? Or is it just activated?
[02:22] <I_Dont_Like_Nazi> poor mwe, he has to help everyone at once
[02:22] <mwe> alphanaut: it works at next boot
[02:22] <b_> ic
[02:22] <I_Dont_Like_Nazi> leave the dude alone
[02:22] <Gun_Smoke> snoops:  thanks, now to connect via ip, can I just put it in the explored menu bar?
[02:22] <alphanaut> mwe, oh... nicew
[02:22] <b_> thank you
[02:22] <mwe> alphanaut: yeah. make a backup before editing it though
[02:22] <snoops> Gun_Smoke yep... how are they networked? Are they all on the same subnet?
[02:23] <Gun_Smoke> dunno
[02:23] <Gun_Smoke> much about it all.
[02:23] <alphanaut> mwe, yeah. But if I cant boot linux after reboot?
[02:23] <SeanTater> b_: actually, searching linux unix or bsd on wikipedia will help solve that
[02:23] <horrork> Is this the correct way to pass arg to time: time -o data.dat longProgram
[02:23] <kingruedi> hi
[02:23] <SeanTater> b_: they each have a diagram showing thier replation
[02:23] <horrork> Because it is not working.
[02:23] <mwe> alphanaut: restore the backup from a live cd
[02:23] <SeanTater> b_: /relation/
[02:23] <hellokthulu> So, what's the modern version of Xconfigurator or XF86Setup so I can tweak my X11 setup?
[02:24] <alphanaut> hm.. ok mwe
[02:24] <I_Dont_Like_Nazi> mwe: So any ideas why no device is found?
[02:24] <xelados> wow
[02:24] <mwe> alphanaut: paste the new menu.lst at paste.ubuntu-nl.org and I'll look at it if you worried
[02:24] <xelados> Look at all the extra repos on my sources list
[02:24] <SeanTater> b_: Linux, although like Unix, actually has no code whatsoever from it.
[02:24] <xelados> :O
[02:24] <mwe> I_Dont_Like_Nazi: I can't help you with kanotix
[02:24] <horrork> Is this the correct way to pass arg to time: time -o data.dat longProgram?
[02:25] <mwe> I_Dont_Like_Nazi: sudo ifconfig wlan0 up && sudo dhclient wlan0 probably
[02:25] <alphanaut> mwe, done
[02:26] <mwe> alphanaut: URL?
[02:26] <I_Dont_Like_Nazi> mwe: ok, i'll try that, thanks
[02:26] <mwe> alphanaut: paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12345 or something like that
[02:26] <alphanaut> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20277 : or click in the latest
[02:27] <Gun_Smoke> snoops:  the explorer crashes each time. lol
[02:28] <snoops> Gun_Smoke how are the pc's networked?
[02:28] <mwe> alphanaut: it seems like it would work. you still have an old kernel there though
[02:28] <mwe> alphanaut: the -18 one
[02:28] <alphanaut> yes, the first
[02:28] <snoops> Gun_Smoke can they ping each other?
[02:28] <alphanaut> should I remove it?
[02:28] <Gun_Smoke> I don't know
[02:28] <mwe> alphanaut: if you don't need it
[02:29] <alphanaut> well XGL/Copmiz works(?) on it..
[02:29] <mwe> alphanaut: just sudo apt-get remove the kernels you don't need
[02:29] <Gun_Smoke> They run off the same router, 2 a wireless connections and 1 is wired
[02:29] <horrork> Is this the correct way to pass arg to time: time -o data.dat longProgram?
[02:29] <Trae> http://pastebin.ca/126383   <-- could someone please tell me if that is a bad idea for my sources.list?  If they are in disaccord or something?
[02:29] <snoops> should discover if they can ping each other first.. disable windows firewalls.
[02:30] <alphanaut> mwe, brb reboot
[02:30] <Trae> err, sorry forgot to say please
[02:30] <mwe> Trae: it looks ok
[02:30] <Trae> :)
[02:30] <Trae> mwe ok thanks.... I just want to make sure I wasn't doing anything stupid
[02:30] <larsemil> ive always followed this link http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide when updating my ati-driver. this time it does not work, even though i am doing exactly as it says.
[02:31] <mwe> Trae: the default mirrors have been somewhat slow lately thogh
[02:31] <horrork> Is this the correct way to pass arg to time: $ time -o data.dat longProgram?
[02:31] <Trae> mwe nod
[02:31] <Gun_Smoke> snoops:  Okay
[02:31] <mwe> Trae: I'm using a mirror. it's way faster
[02:31] <Trae> I think there is something wrong with the flash that comes with RestrictedFormats
[02:32] <Trae> that Automatix is just wrong
[02:32] <Trae> it made all apps crash left and right
[02:32] <mwe> Trae: there is something wrong with the flash player for linux. it's old
[02:32] <longwave> horrork: my "time" does not support the -o switch, you just use "time longProgram" and it outputs the timing results at the end
[02:33] <alphanaut> mwe, well It worked thx :D
[02:33] <Trae> Automatix had Xchat dying, FF dying... and other apps just randomly crappying out
[02:33] <mwe> alphanaut: yw
[02:33] <Trae> :(
[02:33] <longwave> automatix is not supported and can cause some ubuntu apps to break, people in here generally do not recommend using it
[02:33] <mwe> Trae: automatix is dangorous to use
[02:33] <Trae> Mark should set up a "Buy proprietary formats repo" or something
[02:34] <Trae> mwe had to nuke and reinstall
[02:34] <Trae> I'd pay Canonical for mp3 support that was stable and tested
[02:34] <Trae> and all the video codecs stuff
[02:34] <longwave> they would offer mp3 and other codec support if they could
[02:34] <longwave> but for legal reasons it really isn't possible
[02:34] <RancidPickle> what about easyubuntu as opposed to automatix?
[02:35] <Trae> longwave I know... license it and let us buy it
[02:35] <Trae> longwave for AFTER we've installed
[02:35] <Trae> so we don't taint the system
[02:35] <longwave> easyubuntu is slightly more reliable than automatix, but still there is a chance it may break your system
[02:35] <Trae> nod
[02:35] <longwave> !easyubuntu
[02:35] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[02:35] <drbreen> Trae: gstreamer _has_ legal mp3 support through fluendo ?
[02:35] <Trae> I don't want to break my ubuntu
[02:35] <Gentleman> hi
[02:35] <RancidPickle> thx
[02:35] <spacy_> Hi. I wanted to share a folder on my notebook (Ubuntu) with my desktop (WinXP) pc.
[02:36] <longwave> !samba
[02:36] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:36] <spacy_> but when I want to acces my nb with smb://notebooksname
[02:36] <Trae> yeah, the wiki restricted formats usually works fine enough
[02:36] <Trae> but the flash has been nasty and causes issues so I might just hold off.  The sad thing is... every site on the planet has flash
[02:36] <Gentleman> hi, how much diskspace would a normal install of ubuntu take?
[02:36] <spacy_> I wanted it to work the easy way, though
[02:37] <Trae> anyhoo, tx for your time guys
[02:37] <Trae> mwe tx
[02:37] <Howitzer> How do i get file-roller to support 7z archives?
[02:37] <Trae> bbiab to lurk when I get my xchat set up
[02:37] <Trae> heh
[02:37] <Howitzer> nvm
[02:37] <jrib> !7z
[02:37] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde)
[02:37] <jrib> arg
[02:37] <Howitzer> note they can't be opened by default
[02:37] <Howitzer> you need to install p7zip first
[02:37] <longwave> Gentleman: under 2Gb if you install the standard set of packages
[02:37] <Gentleman> THANKS
[02:38] <noskule> hi, is it possible to install ubuntu from a (k)ubuntu-desktop cd without installing a bootloader?
[02:38] <Howitzer> Gentleman, don't try it!!!
[02:38] <Gentleman> a lot
[02:38] <Gentleman> ??
[02:38] <Howitzer> i installed the Ubuntu root partition once on a 2gb partition
[02:38] <Gentleman> aha?
[02:38] <Howitzer> after a day, i had to reinstall because i had no space left
[02:38] <Howitzer> i would say about 3 to 4 gb
[02:39] <Gentleman> yea, but with all the things you need to work i think
[02:39] <Gentleman> or?
[02:39] <Howitzer> what do you mean?
[02:39] <Gentleman> mozilla, thunderbird, office etc
[02:40] <IAskew> my current install is 4.4gb but that is including kubuntu/xubuntu etc
[02:40] <Howitzer> mine is about that size too
[02:40] <Howitzer> installed kubuntu and xubuntu
[02:40] <Gentleman> i just need ubuntu
[02:40] <Gentleman> ;)
[02:40] <Gentleman> whats faster kubuntu or ubuntu ?
[02:41] <J4t> xubuntu is a lil bit faster
[02:41] <Howitzer> need to get rid of it though, these Nvidia drivers in combination with my 6600GT gives me a nasty bug on all non-Gnome WM's :(
[02:41] <Gentleman> i know, but i would prefer gnome or kde
[02:41] <Howitzer> i would suggest you try Ubuntu first
[02:41] <LinuxHelp>  Generally speaking, is it safe for two processes to write to a fifo file at the same time?
[02:41] <Gentleman> ok
[02:41] <Gentleman> i will do that
[02:41] <Howitzer> then you can always install kubuntu-desktop later
[02:42] <Gentleman> because my pc i a lil bit older, but i would prefer a gnome or kde desktop
[02:42] <Gentleman> :D
[02:42] <acojlo> "2 duplicate APIC table ignored" in dmesg. Problem?
[02:42] <Gentleman> don't know why, but xubuntu is a litle bit suspect; can't explain why
[02:42] <J4t> :)
[02:43] <J4t> its a matter of preference, really.. not much speed diff
[02:43] <Gentleman> ok
[02:43] <jrib> Gentleman: xfce is probably your best bet on an older pc, how much ram do you have?
[02:43] <Gentleman> hmm
[02:43] <acojlo> "MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC" Problem?
[02:43] <Gentleman> just a sec
[02:44] <Gentleman> 256
[02:44] <Gentleman> mb ram
[02:44] <jrib> Gentleman: I'd say that's on the border.  You can give kde or gnome a try, but if you feel it is kind of sluggish, then I would try out xfce
[02:45] <Gentleman> ok, so i will try the "classical" ubuntu and if it won't work i will try xubuntu
[02:45] <J4t> right on!
[02:45] <damo22> I just had a major harddisk failure.  I am wondering what steps i should take to set up a laptop so that my new harddisk isnt trashed unnecessarily..
[02:46] <Gentleman> my main prob is that i have to install win xp as well on my laptop and my HD has just 20 gb
[02:46] <jrib> Gentleman: yep, you can just install the xubuntu-desktop package to try it out, and you can even switch when you login depending on what you feel like using
[02:46] <J4t> harddisk failure generally doesnt have to do with operating system
[02:47] <J4t> that prolly wasnt the answer you wanted :)
[02:47] <Gentleman> yea... but it's a matter of space
[02:47] <Gentleman> :)
[02:47] <damo22> j4t, what about journalling file systems? dont they do unnecessary writes to the disk?
[02:47] <jrib> Gentleman: don't worry, soon you'll be deleting the windows xp partition :)
[02:47] <gandalfcome> how can i export out of a ps file a few pages into a new ps file, or better print pages from a ps with lpr? thanks for the help
[02:47] <Gentleman> yea i hope so, but i need win xp for school
[02:47] <J4t> damo22: not really.. if your drive cant handle journaling it would break soon anyways
[02:48] <bimberi> !away > Evan|away
[02:48] <damo22> j4t: ok, thanks.. i had a bad experience with xfs on a laptop, i dont recommend it to anyone
[02:48] <Gentleman> because i have to use special software and this requires win xp... i tried to run wine but thats too complicated for me
[02:49] <J4t> damo22: ok, havent used it myself.. ext3 all the way :)
[02:49] <damo22> yes ext3 has lasted the test of time, i should stick with it
[02:50] <J4t> :)
[02:50] <J4t> had problem with reiserfs earlier.. dunno if it was my fault or the fs :)
[02:51] <damo22> j4t: any ideas on how to install ubuntu to a usb stick? i successfully bootstrapped debian sid to one, but not sure how to convert to ubuntu
[02:51] <Gentleman> but i will try and maybe i will come back with a fresh installed ubuntu on laptop next week.. thanks for the support
[02:51] <J4t> damo22: sorry no, never had to so i never did ;)
[02:51] <damo22> j4t: i did because i was running without a hdd for a few days lol
[02:52] <J4t> hehe
[02:52] <damo22> yesterday i bought an 80gb seagate for my laptop
[02:53] <J4t> ok. if you use ext3 it prolly shouldnt make a problem :)
[02:54] <damo22> yes, but ext2 for boot partition ;)  unfortunately vmware doesnt support 3d accelleration so i still need partition for windoze
[02:55] <Stormx2`> Ack, someone please help me here! I used a script to install nvidia drivers, and they half work but I couldn't get XGL working. Problem is half the fonts don't show up and I don't know how to get back to rhe original restricted drivers :(
[02:55] <damo22> i wonder how rw support for ntfs is going..
[02:56] <easytiger> is anyone getting knotify crashing when using kopete in ubuntu(gnome)?
[02:56] <damo22> cant wait for the day i can safely put "rw" flag on lol
[02:56] <J4t> damo22: it works fine through fuse and some ntfs-stuff
[02:56] <J4t> knoppix 5 uses it
[02:56] <b_> i just installed clam av but its nowhere to be found on ubuntu menus- where should i look
[02:57] <keithhhhh> I like Ubuntu but I need windows and Im sick of dual booting.  Is it possible to run windows inside ubuntu and still use my current windows setup??
[02:57] <damo22> j4t: but i dont want to risk corrupting my main ntfs server
[02:57] <easytiger> i remember chmoding a friends 250GB ntfs external hardisk so i could write stuff to it. windows got real upset and refused to acknoldge it after that.
[02:57] <J4t> ok.. then you might want to wait a few months :)
[02:57] <_eckobar_> hi everybody.
[02:57] <damo22> j4t: yeah :)
[02:57] <jrojas> hi
[02:57] <J4t> easytiger: like 2months ago?
[02:57] <jrojas> somebody has used xvidcap ?
 bout 9 months ago
[02:58] <snoops> yes jrojas
[02:58] <Stormx2> >.<
[02:58] <glen_> keithhhhh, vmware
[02:58] <J4t> ok, but then there was no "full ntfs-write support" (tm)
[02:58] <keithhhhh> oh cool
[02:58] <b_> keith run ubuntu in windows using virtual pc or use vmware on either windows or ubuntu
[02:58] <easytiger> nope. opsie
[02:58] <snoops> keithhhhh you can use the ext2 driver for windows to see your ext3 partition that ubuntu uses
[02:58] <J4t> :)
[02:59] <_eckobar_> i have the following problem..... i want to ping my ubuntu computer, the ubuntu pc can ping the gateway,dns and all other computer in the net, BUT the ubuntu pc could not be pinged???? why?? i use ubuntu 6.06
[02:59] <damo22> easytiger: yes i have tested ntfs write support its still gay
[02:59] <_eckobar_> would be thankful for any help
[02:59] <solstice> cryptdisks fails to mount my crypted partition because ALL my partition (even the one not encrypted) are in /dev/mapper ! why ?
[02:59] <snoops> basically you just lose journalling from ext3 that way.. but best solution I've found
[02:59] <b_> how do i accsess the front-end for clamav
[02:59] <b_> ther is no menus showing clamav or the frontend
[02:59] <zsh> hi. will resizing the partition on which ubuntu is installed mess up anything???
 i've no need to use ntfs partitions. screw them!
[02:59] <J4t> is there even a frontend for clamav for gnome?
[03:00] <keithhhhh> b_ so I can go into ubuntu right now and install vmware and run windows inside ubuntu?
[03:00] <damo22> easytiger: unfortunately i need to run proper 3d stuff
[03:00] <glen_> keithhhhh, yes
[03:00] <b_> ummm i think so i just installed it
[03:00] <b_> yes keith
[03:00] <solstice> that's a bug of udev or what ?
[03:00] <J4t> b_: a frontend or just the package clamav?
[03:00] <dondong> hi,people,how to use 7zip for backup?
 its usually a bad idea to boot an actual disk partition in vmware.
[03:01] <b_> keith i use virtual pc to run ubuntus in windows
[03:01] <Jack_Sparrow> !backup
[03:01] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[03:01] <b_> j4t i installed clam and the frontend but i duno where to dfind it
[03:01] <b_> theres no menus and man clamav does not work
[03:01] <J4t> avscan - GTK frontend for the Clam AntiVirus scanner (ClamAV)
[03:01] <damo22> easytiger: i would happily reformat all windows machines and put ubuntu, if ati released ALL functionality of their drivers GPL
[03:01] <J4t> klamav - KDE frontend for ClamAV
[03:01] <J4t> any of those?
[03:01] <keithhhhh> glen thanks :D
[03:01] <keithhhhh> babo: just want to say hello or 
[03:01] <keithhhhh> babo: are you Korean?
[03:01] <zsh> hi. will resizing the partition on which ubuntu is installed mess up anything???
[03:01] <b_> thats what i have installed avscan
[03:02] <Stormx2> Please can someone help me here... i need to remove the nvidia drivers a script installed and go back to the restricted ones....
[03:02] <J4t> ok, and avscan in terminal gives?
[03:02] <snoops> damo22 ha, I'd go completely amd and ati if amd opened a small subset of functionality of their drivers
[03:02] <b_> crap i forgot to try man avscan
[03:02] <b_> it works
[03:03] <Stormx2> :(
[03:03] <J4t> :)
[03:03] <Stormx2> I would REALLY appreciate it.
[03:03] <Jack_Sparrow> b_: are you trying to scan a windows drive or worried about virii in linux?
[03:03] <tanlaan> Can anyone help with the setting up of an iMac G3? I did the horizontal and vertical setting changes in xorg.conf, but when I attempted to restart gdm it failed to start. That and I also have a second question, for no reason that I can come up with, when I am in console 2 characters are being cut off the screen. This could be something like settings that have been changed without notice but I dont know.
[03:03] <damo22> snoops: yeah its so annoying, i wonder what it would take to reverse engineer an actual card
[03:04] <b_> i just want some sort of protection for linux, yes i know linux is basically virus free but i feel better with some protection even if its no on demand
[03:04] <snoops> damo22 have you emailed ati or amd and said you're all for open sourcing the drivers?
[03:04] <damo22> snoops: we should go into business making 3d cards with open source drivers
 it really is the most pointless thing on earth
[03:04] <damo22> snoops: people will buy our cards, just because of the drivers
[03:04] <b_> i also want to use clamav for email
[03:04] <Jack_Sparrow> agreed
[03:04] <snoops> damo22 there is already a project for that.. was on lug radio awhile ago
[03:05] <b_> yeah yeah whatever i could care less would linix folks have to say about antivirus for linux
[03:05] <easytiger> lol.
[03:05] <damo22> antivirus??? wtf u need that for on linux
[03:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Shows how I feel about him
[03:05] <Jack_Sparrow> damo22: window mentality
[03:05] <jrojas> how many virus exists for linux ?
[03:05] <Jack_Sparrow> !virus
[03:06] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[03:06] <b_> damn i knew i would spark a fight with these people
[03:06] <b_> don;t get so offend people when i want av scanner
[03:06] <zipper_> I'm having some trouble installing kubuntu on my asus a6r (celeron m, ati 200m) laptop. Basicly the installer won't even boot up in "safe grafics mode". It just stalls at "Uncompressing linux... Ok, booting the kernel" / "Using hpet for high-res timesource" . Anyone have any suggestions?
[03:06] <damo22> yeah, lets run an extra service, scanning the hdd all the time to find windows viruses...
[03:06] <Wizardling> does anyone know where the xorg.conf file is in 6.06?
[03:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Antivirus companies feed on the paranoia of Windows uses even after they move to a safe os
[03:06] <Wizardling> it is not in /etc/x11/
[03:06] <tanlaan> Wixardling: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:07] <bimberi> Wizardling: /etc/X11/
[03:07] <b_> and linux but i don;t need to scan it allthe time just when i want so chill people with the damn antivirus cry baby shit
[03:07] <Wizardling> it does not exist
[03:07] <damo22> I wouldnt be surprised if Antivirus companies  MAKE the viruses
[03:07] <bimberi> Wizardling: capital X
[03:07] <Wizardling> both pico and vi open a blank (new) file
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> gksudo gedit  /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[03:07] <Wizardling> CAPITAL x?
[03:07] <tanlaan> Wizardling: try nano?
[03:07] <easytiger> windows security is a multi billion dollar industry
[03:07] <revo> hi, n00b to this, does the 'live CD' basically allow me to open the OS inside windows, allowing me to test for any faults that may happen with a complete installation?
[03:07] <tanlaan> Wizardling: yes capital
[03:07] <b_> yes it is
[03:07] <Wizardling> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1367159#post1367159 is the problem I'm having
[03:07] <bimberi> Wizardling: X not x
[03:07] <Wizardling> oh for fuck's sake
[03:07] <A[D] minS> !postfix
[03:07] <ubotu> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Postfix or here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[03:08] <Wizardling> well WHY did lowercase x work in 5.10?
 the live CD boots an actual OS on your computer. just like windows or an installed linux does
[03:08] <Wizardling> WTF?
[03:08] <snoops> revo not inside windows.. you boot off of the cd, and it loads itself into ram and uses the cd as a hdd
[03:08] <Wizardling> that is insane
[03:08] <tanlaan> Grr. I need help with my iMac :(
[03:08] <snoops> but yes, you can test out ubuntu as a fully working system from the live cd.. then if you like what you see.. you can double click the desktop install icon on the desktop of the live cd
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> revo please explain "test for any faults that may happen with a complete installation
[03:08] <damo22> snoops: i reckon the next big thing will be running an entire OS from flash memory
[03:08] <Stormx2> I need help with my stupid video drivers but meh >.< im trying to do it myself.
[03:08] <revo> oh ok, i think i get it, so can windows still be used, say, can I switch between the two OS's then?
[03:09] <Jack_Sparrow> no
[03:09] <gatekeeper> Wizardling, all *nix files/folders are case sensitive unlike windows
[03:09] <easytiger> well when you boot from the live CD it does not modify you hard disk
[03:09] <Wizardling> I don't use Windows
[03:09] <Stormx2> revo: nah, the live cd doesn't get housed in windows.
[03:09] <snoops> damo22 like how vista uses flash sticks as extra memory?
[03:09] <Jack_Sparrow> revo: boot to one or the other
[03:09] <Stormx2> revo: You have to put it into your disk drive and reboot
[03:09] <damo22> snoops: i dont know anything about vista
[03:09] <revo> Jack_Sparrow, i mean any hardware compatability issues
[03:09] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardware
[03:09] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[03:09] <tanlaan> Is there another ISO that doesnt have the live cd? Maybe It will work if I actually install it.
[03:09] <mwe> Wizardling: the config file has always been /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:09] <b_> you have to dual boot windows and ubuntu to switch from os to os unless you wanna restart and boot another
[03:09] <Wizardling> thanks. I'll give it a go with X
[03:09] <b_> or
[03:10] <b_> you can install virtual pc on windows and run ubuntu or use vmware on windows or ubuntu
[03:10] <revo> ok, thanks
[03:10] <drbreen> tanlann: the alternate cd
[03:10] <Wizardling> maybe I typed it as a capital by mistake the fist time around with 5.10
[03:10] <Jack_Sparrow> tanlaan: alt is server but if live wont work (after testing for errors) alt will probably not either
[03:10] <tanlaan> drbreen: ok Ill check it
[03:10] <Wizardling> NM, cheers for your help
[03:10] <bimberi> Wizardling: np :)
[03:10] <damo22> If you want to help the ubuntu community, donate to vmware with a letter asking for full 3d support
[03:10] <tanlaan> Jack_Sparrow: well I have no idea why it won't restart gdm :(
[03:11] <Jack_Sparrow> damo22: NOT
[03:11] <damo22> :P
[03:11] <Wizardling> I really do wish the screen res bug on early CRT iMacs would be fixed.
[03:11] <tanlaan> Wixardling: thats what I am trying to do with mine...but its not working
[03:11] <damo22> why not Jack
[03:11] <tanlaan> Wizardling: thats what I am trying to do with mine...but its not working
[03:11] <Wizardling> Then at least I wouldn't be screwing up commands BEFORE I even get Ubuntu installed :-D
[03:12] <Wizardling> I prefer to screw up AFTER instation
[03:12] <tanlaan> Wizardling: If it works, could you tell me what you did? :D
[03:12] <Howitzer> Wizardling, i prefer to screw up NEVER :)
[03:12] <Jack_Sparrow> damo22: telling people to help ubuntu by supporting a product that is for Windows software just does not feel right...
[03:12] <tanlaan> Wizardling: because atm I edited the horizontal and vertical thing, and gdm wont restart
[03:13] <damo22> Jack: the product is NOT for windows software
[03:13] <Wizardling> Oh god - you mean http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75604&highlight=imac+blank+screen didn't solve it for 6.06, tanlaan?
[03:13] <Stormx2> nvidia-installer: nvidia-installer: cannot execute binary file <-- why is this happening?
[03:13] <Wizardling> Which iMac model, dude?
[03:13] <tanlaan> Wizardling: Blueberry
[03:13] <Jack_Sparrow> damo22: what exactly is vmware?
[03:14] <tanlaan> Wizardling: It worked last time I installed it
[03:14] <keithhhhh> Im thinking about upgrading from ubuntu 5.10 to 6.06 I noticed there is no DVD version of 6.06
[03:14] <Wizardling> Mine is a Rev c lime iMac 266MHz G3 upgraded with a Sonnet Harmni 500MHz G3 card
[03:14] <tanlaan> Wizardling: just not this time... Which is why I am confused
[03:14] <damo22> Jack: go do your homework before telling me its a bad idea to support it
[03:14] <Wizardling> blueberry - which model?
[03:14] <Wizardling> tray-loader?
[03:14] <tanlaan> slot loading
[03:14] <tanlaan> first one
[03:14] <Wizardling> the 1st gen slot?
[03:15] <Stormx2> Please someone... i barely ever come to this channel to ask questions but this time i really need some help :(
[03:15] <tanlaan> 350mhz, 7gigs
[03:15] <tanlaan> yup
[03:15] <Wizardling> ok, well - if you can hang around ten mintes (the live CD takes forever to load) I'll be back to report.
[03:15] <Jack_Sparrow> damo22: Allows you to run multiple operating systems at the same time on the same PC...L tHAT IS not HOW YOU SUPPORT uBUNTU..
[03:15] <tanlaan> Stormx2: Hmm maybe you have the wrong binary file?
[03:15] <tanlaan> Wizardling: will do lol
[03:15] <Wizardling> BBL
[03:15] <Stormx2> tanlaan: Well thats the thing... I installed the wrong drivers (64bit)
[03:15] <GazzaK> Hi, I have a bit of a text problem, typing the  key once does nothing, but if I follow it by a aeocl etc I get a , this is great but I want to type say im I have an extra key press and words which need a s like say Garys come out like Gary, how do I disable this behaviour?
[03:16] <Jack_Sparrow> damo22: Yes, I know what it is for, was asking you if YOU knew'
[03:16] <Wizardling> wish me luck dude! ;-)
[03:16] <Stormx2> tanlaan: And im trying to uninstall them XD
[03:16] <Stormx2> Im going to try something quickly, brb
[03:16] <tanlaan> Stormx2: maybe you could manually go in and rm them?
[03:16] <Stormx2> tanlaan: Hmm
[03:16] <Stormx2> tanlaan: Give me just 2 minutes
[03:16] <snoops> Jack_Sparrow it definitely can in my opinion.. if someone wants to use ubuntu but requires a few applications which wine or crossover doesn't support, and there being no alternate in the linux world.. well instead of dual booting they can use vmware inside ubuntu
[03:16] <damo22> Jack: cross platform software development can be made a whole lot easier with vmware, plus if vmware had 3d support, you could test your 3d apps without needing a windows machine
[03:17] <Icemasta[God] > Hello, anyone awake?
[03:17] <QuarkMan> no
[03:17] <damo22> exactly snoops :D
[03:17] <Icemasta[God] > Ok, good
[03:17] <geoffDeGeoffGeof> is it true it is not possible to upgrade from the cd with no internet connection?
[03:17] <snoops> cross platform software development with vmware? Are you insane?
[03:17] <Jack_Sparrow> snoops: I disagree .. but this is not the place for that discussion..
[03:18] <b_> what is thje main path for ubuntu is it /
[03:18] <Stormx2> Didn't work.
[03:18] <Stormx2> See, my fonts are totally screwed
[03:18] <snoops> Jack_Sparrow indeed :)
[03:18] <Stormx2> anything with a space it in just screws up no end.
[03:18] <Stormx2> You get the first frickin' word an nothing else.
[03:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !support
[03:18] <ubotu> For your support options, see http://www.ubuntu.com/support
[03:18] <Stormx2> I want to go back to the restricted, default drivers, but I don't know how.
[03:18] <damo22> snoops: eg web development, so you can test your webpage on ie7
[03:19] <Stormx2> best thing for IE is IEs4Linux
[03:19] <Icemasta[God] > My question: Does cedega requires a kinda of cracking or only a serial?
[03:19] <damo22> Icemasta: use wine, its free
[03:19] <damo22> :)
[03:19] <Stormx2> I feel like reinstalling. This is ridiculous.
[03:19] <Icemasta[God] > Yeah, but cedega has already lots of games :/
[03:20] <snoops> Icemasta[God]  there's two versions. A cvs free copy which you have to compile yourself
[03:20] <snoops> and a support version which includes debs etc
[03:20] <tanlaan> Ill be right back...
[03:20] <Icemasta[God] > snoops, where do I get that cvs?
[03:20] <snoops> the reason you have to pay for it, is the company has to remove the copy protection from games to get them to work, mostly.. and those have to be protected under some patents etc
[03:21] <snoops> so they can't release that part of the code on cvs
[03:21] <snoops> umm just a minute, I'll grab the url
[03:21] <snoops> or you can google it
[03:21] <djk_> how do i gather information about the hardware in the console?
[03:21] <Jack_Sparrow> djk_: lspci
[03:21] <ishorseman> Stormx2, just change the driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:22] <exarkun> The latest kernel in Dapper is 2.6.15-26 but the latest vmware kernel modules package is 2.6.15-25.  What's going on?
[03:22] <Stormx2> ishorseman: i did.
[03:22] <snoops> http://www.transgaming.com/license.php?source=1
[03:22] <Stormx2> ishorseman: I changed it back to nv, I infact reverted to a backup. No difference.
[03:22] <djk_> Jack_Sparrow: i was thinking of more information
[03:22] <Ych--away> wow
[03:23] <Jack_Sparrow> djk_: lspci -v
[03:23] <Ych--away> microsoft gets more retarded by the minute
[03:23] <Stormx2> Ych--away: What did it do this time?
[03:23] <damo22> exarkun: you can run vmware-config.pl and recompile for your kernel
[03:23] <glen_> djk_, hwinfo
[03:23] <Icemasta[God] > snoops, so basically
[03:23] <exarkun> damo22: I don't run Ubuntu so that I can build my own kernel modules.
[03:24] <damo22> exarkun: which linux do you use then?
[03:24] <Icemasta[God] > What's the difference between them is that........ cvs is gay?
[03:24] <damo22> lol
[03:25] <Icemasta[God] > Just tell me what is that crap about copy protection
[03:25] <Icemasta[God] > Basically, any game that has a copy protection
[03:25] <Icemasta[God] > Will screw up CVS?
[03:25] <ken_> any1 know how to install the compiler?
[03:25] <Icemasta[God] > And then proceed to rape it
[03:25] <Jack_Sparrow> djk_: there is a bootable cd with some other hardware detection tools.. http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[03:25] <Stormx2> ken_: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:25] <snoops> because of patent issues etc, it'd be illegal for them to release the code which breaks it
[03:25] <ken_> oh, k, thx!
[03:25] <djk_> glen_: thanks
[03:25] <Ych--away> storm
[03:25] <Ych--away> whoops
[03:26] <Icemasta[God] > snoops, ok so then cvs cedega is simply gay? 'cause you can't play games?
[03:26] <Ych--away> oh well
[03:26] <damo22> icemasta: your choice of vocabulary leaves much to be desired
[03:26] <GazzaK> i say
[03:26] <Icemasta[God] > I know, I just woke up
[03:26] <Jack_Sparrow> dsnoops damo Icemasta[God]    All of that is #Ubuntu-offtopic
[03:26] <Ych> ill tell my MS is retarded story anyway
[03:26] <damo22> jack: when someone asks a question i am happy to answer them
[03:26] <snoops> Jack_Sparrow umm it was a question relating to cedega installation on his ubuntu box..
[03:27] <mzuverink> Does anyone know why the option to do a LAMP install is no longer available on the server install iso images?
[03:27] <Icemasta[God] > So anyway, basically, anyway installed game that got a copy protection
[03:27] <Jack_Sparrow> It goes beyond that..
[03:27] <Icemasta[God] > Basically, any game, cedega cvs won't support that
[03:27] <Ych> i went to help a friend get his internet working on a new windows install, and windows wouldnt let him log in without "activating his copy" or some BS like that, but in order to activate he needed internet, but to configure his internet he has to log in first. and the most ironic part is, it's actually a legal windows copy, not a pirated like all of mine :)
[03:28] <damo22> Jack: im a human being too not just a robot answering questions lol
[03:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Ych: hit F8 go into sfae mode and do it
[03:28] <modern`> Hello
[03:28] <Stormx2> I'm reinstalling.
[03:28] <Stormx2> This is stupid.
[03:29] <damo22> Whats the problem stormx2
[03:29] <modern`> tell me
[03:29] <Stormx2> Can't get back to my original X drivers.
[03:29] <Stormx2> Fonts are totally boned.
[03:29] <Stormx2> Almost unusable.
[03:29] <Stormx2> My fault tho.
[03:29] <Stormx2> So nevermind
[03:29] <damo22> sudo apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg
[03:30] <Stormx2> My /home is mounted seperately
[03:30] <Stormx2> Ill try that
[03:30] <damo22> reinstall it plus ubuntu-desktop
[03:30] <Ych> thanks jack
[03:30] <GazzaK> sorry for asking again, but, I have a bit of a text problem, typing the  key once does nothing, but if I follow it by a aeocl etc I get a , this is great but I want to type say im I have an extra key press and words which need a s like say Garys come out like Gary, how do I disable this behaviour?
[03:30] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[03:30] <azureal> hi; what are some of your opinions about totem?
[03:30] <Ych> i told him the solution to his problem is linux
[03:30] <Ych> but unfortunately he's got a few apps....
[03:30] <Ych> taht are xp xclusive
[03:30] <Icemasta[God] > What is this trap?
[03:30] <Icemasta[God] > I can't query on freenode?
[03:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Ych: Even after it locks you out F8 will get you in to register :) it
[03:31] <azureal> Ych: i'm sure there are alternates (excluding games)
[03:31] <Stormx2> damo22: I sure hope this works
[03:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Ych: Loki loaders is one solution for some games
[03:31] <damo22> stormx2: which 3d card do you have
[03:32] <damo22> stormx2: which 3d card do you have
[03:32] <Stormx2> I use an old nvidia
[03:32] <damo22> stormx2 thats cool, i wish i had one kickin around
[03:32] <Stormx2> Im reinstalling now.
[03:32] <Stormx2> Thanks for all the help everyone who tried.
[03:32] <erUSUL> Icemasta[God] : yoiu have to register
[03:32] <Icemasta[God] > I registered
[03:33] <Icemasta[God] > It works fine now
[03:33] <damo22> azureal: u can use mplayer + mozilla-mplayer
[03:33] <ishorseman> Stormx2, how dod you get into that problem?
[03:33] <azureal> ic
[03:33] <damo22> azureal: i dont have totem installed and it works
[03:34] <Ych> umm
[03:34] <azureal> ok, i'm just doing a thorough cleaning of gnome, so =)
[03:34] <Ych> games are one problem
[03:34] <billybennett> Does anyone know how to work USB Thumbdrives in Ubuntu?
[03:34] <Ych> but the other prblem
[03:34] <damo22> azureal: someone already did that, its called xubuntu
[03:34] <Ych> which im currently googling for solutions fruitlessly
[03:34] <Ych> is
[03:34] <Ych> sonicstage
[03:34] <Ych> the crap proprietry software sony includes with its mp3 players
[03:35] <Jack_Sparrow> billybennett: What is the problem, I plug mine in and it shows up as a drive
[03:35] <Ych> since you cant use them like a normal mp3 player
[03:35] <Wizardling> well - it's certain now. 6.06 is FUBAR on my CRT iMac
[03:35] <ishorseman> Stormx2, how did you get into that problem?
[03:35] <Ych> you have to convert to some crap sony format
[03:35] <azureal> damo22: really? what's on xubuntu by default?
[03:35] <Ych> and cant just access it like a normal usb drive
[03:35] <Wizardling> altering the monitor settings in the xorg.conf file does not fix the problem.
[03:35] <billybennett> Jack_Sparrow, well I have a U3 drive that has special window apps and pretends to be a cdrom.. its showing up as a cd rom but I dont see anything different on my desktop
[03:35] <damo22> azureal: its optimized for small systems, based on gtk instead of gnome
[03:36] <azureal> damo22: well i didn't know this would happen to me... i somehow default a hatred for gnome
[03:36] <afief> I am trying to download a video but it is played automatically through an invisible mplayer window
[03:36] <damo22> azureal: i have it running on an old celeron 600 with only 64mb ram :D
[03:36] <azureal> bleh developed instead of default**
[03:36] <fuzzybunny> when is ubuntu gonna fix cifs issues?
[03:37] <azureal> lol damo22
[03:37] <Wizardling> I get, upon saving the changes to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and then typing sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart the following error 'Fail'
[03:37] <fuzzybunny> I'd like to have a win/lin environment
[03:37] <damo22> azureal: it will work much better with 256Mb ram
[03:37] <Wizardling> "Starting GNOME Display Manager... fail
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> billybennett: what are you trying to do with the special windows apps on ubuntu?
[03:37] <Wizardling> gee, that's helpful.
[03:37] <fuzzybunny> Jack_Sparrow, I just want to open files on a network drive
[03:37] <azureal> damo22: fluxbox for me ;)
[03:37] <azureal> ftw!
[03:38] <billybennett> Jack_Sparrow, nothing but I have a U3 drive that has special windows abilitys.. when in windows it shows a drive but it also pretends to be a cdrom so it can autorun apps... right now in ubuntu I just need to store some files on it
[03:38] <Wizardling> has anyone at all got 6.06 running on an early CRT iMac?
[03:38] <damo22> azureal :) nice have u tried wmii-3
[03:38] <azureal> damo22: no
[03:38] <Jack_Sparrow> fuzzybunny: I told you my opinion yesterday on that, NTFS ...
[03:38] <damo22> azureal: kinda cool based on tabbing, no need for a mouse
[03:38] <masterbender> hi can anyone tell me how to restart my sound-demon on ubuntu ?!
[03:38] <acab_> hi to all
[03:39] <azureal> damo22: i think i already found my holy grail
[03:39] <damo22> azureal: alt-p for bash-like autocompletion-app-launch
[03:39] <Icemasta[God] > Do you have a wiki for ubuntu?
[03:39] <Icemasta[God] > Will help me like hell
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> billybennett: If it has some special Windows magic you will need to do some detective work, or perhaps partition it...
[03:39] <lillpelle> Icemasta[God] : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[03:40] <azureal> hehe, you can also just post here, one problem at at time =)
[03:40] <fuzzybunny> Jack_Sparrow, I had someone helping me w/it almost all day
[03:40] <saiko> hi, can anyone tell me what should i do so my ubuntu would wait for network interfaces to come up when booting ?
[03:40] <billybennett> Jack_Sparrow, does it show up on the desktop like CDs?
[03:40] <acab_> i've 2 monitor in ubuntu... one near the pc and one with a television... if i move the mouse pointer to te right of the desktop 4 i can see the pointer in the televison... but how i start a program in the television?
[03:40] <fuzzybunny> Jack_Sparrow, we still didn't get it working...kinda dissapointing since windows shares have been around QUITE a long time now
[03:40] <yey> hi
[03:40] <snoops> anyway I can auto arrange or sort icons on the gnome desktop?
[03:40] <azureal> damo22, I ran debfoster last night... i feel like i've done a good 'cleaning'
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> fuzzybunny: have you tried it on a fat32 and not an ntfs share?
[03:41] <damo22> :P)
[03:41] <saiko> any help ?
[03:41] <pusling> hmm... I have problems with debootstrapping breezy. it fails when retrieving locales and all packages after that.
[03:41] <damo22> saiko: dont ask if u can ask, just ask
[03:41] <saiko> i already did ;)
[03:41] <fuzzybunny> Jack_Sparrow, I'm not going to bend over my entire production network for the sake of a ubuntu virtual machine
[03:41] <fuzzybunny> :(
[03:42] <saiko> as far as i know i should edit some file - put some magic lines in it
[03:42] <saiko> har-har-har
[03:42] <yey> I'd like to write a script which will: 1) go to specified folder 2) go to the folder with the highest lexicographically name 3) repeat point 2 once 4) and vim the file with the highest lex. name but with the extension *.cpp | Could someone help me with that?
[03:42] <Jack_Sparrow> fuzzybunny: But it would be easy enouhg to test and you would then KNOW where the problem is..
[03:42] <damo22> saiko: ohh yes sorry :)  i think u need sysv-rc
[03:42] <acab_> nobody vould help me?
[03:43] <acab_> could
[03:43] <acab_> sorry
[03:43] <fuzzybunny> I wish
[03:43] <saiko> damo22: sysv-rc ?
[03:43] <snoops> yey hmm would be more of a #bash question?
[03:43] <yey> snoops: ok, I'll try
[03:43] <damo22> saiko, u need to change the order of the bootup scripts i think
[03:44] <damo22> saiko: if u want network interface to boot later
[03:44] <saiko> ok, i'll look into it
[03:44] <saiko> no no
[03:44] <saiko> i want them to come up - system to wait for them
[03:44] <billybennett> Jack_Sparrow, it says Unable to Mount Select Volume
[03:44] <saiko> otherwise sometimes dhcp fails
[03:44] <damo22> ok
[03:44] <saiko> and i'm left without ip
[03:45] <Jack_Sparrow> billybennett: SOunds like your special windows software isnt so special to Ubuntu
[03:45] <damo22> saiko: if dhcp fails, usually its because its not configured correctly
[03:45] <billybennett> Jack_Sparrow, I'm reading that it should work normal under Ubuntu
[03:45] <Wizardling> Can anyone recommend a Ubuntu like Linux that runs on PPC Macs?
[03:45] <zipper_> How do i disable acpi during installation with the livecd? I tried adding 'noacpi' to boot options, but acpi is still getting enabled/loaded.
[03:45] <Wizardling> since Ubuntu doesn't work?
[03:46] <damo22> zipper: acpi=off?
[03:46] <Jack_Sparrow> zipper_: F6 and acpi=off
[03:46] <damo22> zipper: pretty certain
[03:46] <djk_> Wizardling: Debian?
[03:46] <zipper_> damo22, thanks... didn't it use to be noacpi?
[03:46] <damo22> zipper: i think thats for knoppix :P
[03:46] <zipper_> debian as well i think
[03:46] <alessandro_> hi, i'm trying to install packages on a new installation of ubuntu version 5.10 , however i get dependency errors on other packages. i tried looking at the default respository and  see there are already some links to breezy by default, obviously i am missing something else i need to add manually
[03:47] <saiko> damo22: there really isn't anything to configure - windows machine with shared internet connection turned on, 2 network cards and that's about it
[03:47] <alessandro_> what other repositories should i add :o
[03:47] <Wizardling> What distinguishes Ubuntu from Debian, and vice versa?
[03:47] <apostols> Hi, i have problems with Sound in Dapper Drake
[03:47] <zipper_> YES!
[03:47] <damo22> saiko: does ifconfig give u a device?
[03:47] <zipper_> ITS BOOTING
[03:47] <saiko> should go, thx for now
[03:47] <zipper_> thanks Jack_Sparrow and damo22
[03:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Wizardling:  US... spend a few minutes in their channel
[03:47] <damo22> saiko: step 1 make sure your device is detected
[03:48] <djk_> Wizardling: well, Ubuntu is like a child Debian never wanted :p
[03:48] <alessandro_> any other repositories i should add asides from the default already there by default, anybody :o
[03:48] <Wizardling> djk - what does that mean? :-D
[03:48] <apostols> root@sao:~# discover sound
[03:48] <apostols> Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller
[03:48] <apostols> root@sao:~# discover sound --module
[03:48] <apostols> i810_audio
[03:48] <saiko> it's just that dhcp didn't assign any ip to my ubuntu box, was the same with windows
[03:48] <saiko> however after 10x reboots it does
[03:48] <mikolan_> How do I mount a truecrypt volume with write access to my user?
[03:48] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste
[03:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:49] <saiko> do not know where the problem is so i thought maybe i should configure ubuntu to wait for ip, huh
[03:49] <alessandro_> ahh i see : http://ubuntu.compiz.net/dists/drapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[03:49] <Wizardling> Is there any list of supported Mac models for Ubuntu?
[03:49] <Wizardling> I'm tired of hit and miss.
[03:49] <Jack_Sparrow> saiko: If you connect the Ub direct does it work... or is this a lag going through the windows box
[03:49] <apostols> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20287
[03:49] <alessandro_> whats other repositories should i dd then :o
[03:49] <tanlaan> Wizardling: Hey
[03:50] <apostols> Can i help me?
[03:50] <Jack_Sparrow> !mac
[03:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about mac - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:50] <djk_> Wizardling: what's wrong with OS X?
[03:50] <apostols> The sound dont work
[03:50] <damo22> saiko: well before u edit the bootup scripts you should try it manually
[03:50] <saiko> Jack_Sparrow: it does
[03:50] <Wizardling> hey tanlaan
[03:50] <Pntkl> hi
[03:50] <Wizardling> it failed tanlaan
[03:50] <saiko> the problem is with windows shared internet connection
[03:50] <tanlaan> Wizardling: Grr, did it do what I said?
[03:50] <saiko> and at the moment it does run
[03:50] <Icemasta[God] > God damn
[03:50] <saiko> without any problems
[03:50] <Icemasta[God] > Installing 1 game with wine is like
[03:50] <Icemasta[God] > 2 hours
[03:50] <RichEd> hello
[03:50] <tanlaan> Wizardling: It wont start gdm after it stops it
[03:50] <Wizardling> I get, upon saving the changes to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and then typing sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart the following error: "Starting GNOME Display Manager... fail"
[03:51] <Jack_Sparrow> saiko: Then you need to look more at the windows box...
[03:51] <saiko> problem is that sometimes this win shared connection doesn't share
[03:51] <tanlaan> Wizardling: Yea thats what I get
[03:51] <Wizardling> F**k
[03:51] <damo22> saiko: sudo ifdown <device> ; sudo ifup <device>
[03:51] <Jack_Sparrow> saiko: Are those two network cards in the windows box on a shared irq?
[03:51] <Wizardling> It's totally FUBAR isn't it?
[03:51] <saiko> Jack_Sparrow: but as i said there really isn't anything to configure, no harmful firefall turned on
[03:51] <tanlaan> Wizardling: Grr I think my entire iMac is going to shit
[03:51] <Icemasta[God] > To log in into root
[03:51] <Wizardling> if the same setting worked on 5.10...
[03:51] <saiko> Jack_Spar: yes
[03:51] <Icemasta[God] > You do "su password"
[03:51] <Icemasta[God] > Right?
[03:51] <saiko> damo22: thx for the tip
[03:52] <damo22> oh yes: saiko, must put on separate irq
[03:52] <jrib> !root > Icemasta[God] 
[03:52] <damo22> on windows box
[03:52] <Overand> Icemasta[God] : no
[03:52] <jrib> Icemasta[God] : no need, use sudo instead
[03:52] <RichEd> can i ask a semi-off topic evolution PGP question ... just a quickie to clear up some ambiguity on an ubuntu forum post ?
[03:52] <Overand> Icemasta[God] : to become root, try sudo -s
[03:52] <Jack_Sparrow> saiko: I would use different brand cards in there or ones that do not share an interrupt
[03:52] <Overand> but-
[03:52] <tanlaan> Wizardling: Like my monitor flashes a yellow tint every once in awhile and sometimes stays yellow tinted.
[03:52] <Icemasta[God] > !root or sudo -s pass?
[03:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about root or sudo -s pass? - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:52] <Overand> make sure you NEED to be root
[03:52] <Wizardling> My old CRT iMacs (all of which refuse to work with 6.06 and only work using that fix with 5.10) work fine. I'm not junking them
[03:52] <saiko> damn, should go, thx everyone will look into it later, bye bye !
[03:52] <Overand> not having instaqnt access to root is like that for a reason
[03:52] <damo22> bye
[03:52] <jrib> Icemasta[God] : check your private messages from ubotu for a link to the wiki about using sudo
[03:52] <Overand> Icemasta[God] : just:  sudo -s
[03:53] <Wizardling> oh, and someone asked what's wrong with OSX - NOTHING! :-)
[03:53] <Overand> jrib: thanks
[03:53] <Icemasta[God] > Overand, yes, to do # make install
[03:53] <tanlaan> Wizarling: and Right now in console, the screen is shifted so at the bottoms I am missing one character and at the top im missing 2
[03:53] <Wizardling> It's just too slow on older G3 Macs for my tastes
[03:53] <Overand> Icemasta[God] : if you can get an app via the package manager, that's a better route.  make sure what you're compiling isn't available already
[03:53] <jrib> RichEd: best to just ask the question and if someone can help you out, they'll try
[03:53] <Wizardling> Panther is ok if you need MacOS, but I want better performance
[03:53] <RichEd> the forum says post User ID details into PGP security page ... surely I post Key ID details ??
[03:53] <Icemasta[God] > Overand, it's for WINE
[03:53] <Icemasta[God] > And it's the only way to install :/
[03:54] <Overand> Icemasta[God] : i'm pretty sure there's a wine package
[03:54] <Icemasta[God] > Really?
[03:54] <Overand> maybe in multiverse
[03:54] <Icemasta[God] > Well, it's to install one game
[03:54] <Overand> but i'm not positive
[03:54] <Overand> !wine
[03:54] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:54] <Overand> Icemasta[God] : hit that up
[03:54] <Wizardling> tanlaan - heh, well at least I can see everything in console... small mercy :-D
[03:55] <zalmoxes> my grub is corrupted
[03:55] <Icemasta[God] > Is it still "wine --version" ?
[03:55] <earthsound> what are some of the main differences btwn Gnome and KDE?
[03:56] <Jack_Sparrow> earthsound: Eye candy and gnome is a bit faster
[03:56] <Wizardling> tanlaan - have you found any sort of Mac compatibility list?
[03:56] <earthsound> in my limited experiences with linux, I've always used KDE...never used Gnome
[03:56] <JohnRobert> how can I apt-get remove a package and it's dependancies that it originally apt-got?
[03:56] <Wizardling> buggered if I can locate one
[03:56] <zalmoxes> my grub shows 3 kernels installed when i only have one, how do i fix this?
[03:56] <Jack_Sparrow> earthsound: I have also had more trouble keeping kde working than I have gnome
[03:56] <Jack_Sparrow> zalmoxes: those were just from updsates
[03:57] <tanlaan> Wizardling: No I don't understand why its not working
[03:57] <damo22> JohnRobert: i think there is a package called apt-depends might help
[03:57] <Jack_Sparrow> zalmoxes:    gksudo gedit  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:57] <zalmoxes> Jack_Sparrow: then?
[03:57] <Lattyware> zalmoxes: Edit it as neccicary.
[03:57] <Lattyware> It's well commented
[03:58] <zalmoxes> ok
[03:58] <Jack_Sparrow> earthsound: I always used KDE myself but Gnome keeps on running...
[03:58] <Icemasta[God] > ok
[03:58] <Icemasta[God] > Do, to install WoW under ubuntu for exemple
[03:58] <Icemasta[God] > so*
[03:58] <Icemasta[God] > Would it work with CDs?
[03:58] <Jack_Sparrow> zalmoxes: first.. make a backup copy... then remove or remark out the kernels you dont want displayed
[03:58] <Icemasta[God] > DVDs actually
[03:58] <damo22> JohnRobert: sorry its called apt-rdepends
[03:59] <earthsound> Jack_Sparrow: what problems did you have w/ KDE?
[03:59] <Sakireth> Hey, i tried installing kbfx but it says the following:
[03:59] <Sakireth> *** YOU'RE USING automake (GNU automake) 1.4-p6.
[03:59] <Sakireth> *** KDE requires automake 1.6
[03:59] <frogzoo> zloc: 'sudo update-grub'
[03:59] <frogzoo> zalmoxes: 'sudo update-grub' --  damn tab
[04:00] <Jack_Sparrow> earthsound:  I crashed it a few times... Kubuntu more than knoppix or Mepis...  But repeat I crashed it
[04:00] <damo22> sudo apt-get install apt-rdepends && apt-rdepends -r <package> will list all dependencies of a package
[04:01] <earthsound> the last time I used KDE (in gentoo) I never had any problems...even with the newer, unstable packages
[04:01] <zalmoxes> frogzoo: ok i'll try that
[04:01] <earthsound> Jack_Sparrow: was it just one thing, or a number of problems that would cause it to crash?
[04:02] <Sakireth> anyone? the chat seems rather empty but i get no answer. am i being ignored?
[04:02] <Jack_Sparrow> earthsound: It was more my sata drives and pci-e and tweaking that hosed it up..
[04:02] <mlehrer> maybe
[04:02] <earthsound> Sakireth: did you try installing automake 1.6?
[04:02] <Icemasta[God] > What is # (commands) in terminal for?
[04:02] <damo22> sorry, correction apt-rdepends -r -s <package> will list all dependencies of a package
[04:03] <Sakireth> earthsound: err.. how?
[04:03] <drbashir_> whats the text only browser called again?
[04:03] <IAskew> lynx/links drbashir
[04:03] <Lynoure> drbashir_: lynx, w3m?
[04:03] <earthsound> ah. I have an SATA drive now that I didn't have before
[04:03] <nywass> hi all
[04:03] <drbashir_> cheers
[04:03] <nywass> i've giproblem with the wine application
[04:03] <FloK> is there no acrobat reader pkg?
[04:04] <Jack_Sparrow> nywass:  There is a #Wine channel
[04:04] <zalmoxes> vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-386 doesnt work,      error: inconsistent file system,        version 2.6.15-25-386 works.
[04:04] <nywass> Jack_Sparrow: i know but it looks totally empty
[04:04] <Icemasta[God] > Overand, thanks a lot about tha tlink, but there is a problem
[04:04] <nywass> the application is working fine , but the charset is wrong
[04:04] <Sakireth> earthsound: err.. how?
[04:04] <Icemasta[God] > Like, 95% of the games on WINE requires a fix
[04:05] <nywass> it looks like chineese charset
[04:05] <Overand> Icemasta[God] : yes, c'est la vie
[04:05] <Overand> Icemasta[God] : consider buying cedega or whatever their current thing is
[04:05] <Icemasta[God] > But those are all compiled
[04:05] <Icemasta[God] > Overand, I am more tempted to download it >.>
[04:05] <damo22> Icemasta: you dont need to play games really :P
[04:05] <Icemasta[God] > Or get teh CVS
[04:05] <Jack_Sparrow> FloK: Do you have a link to a pdf page ?
[04:05] <earthsound> Sakireth: if it's a .deb package, I believe the correct syntax is: sudo dpkg install [package.deb] 
[04:06] <Sakireth> earthsound: I don't think that's so good for your system... like, ubuntu gets shipped with automake 1.4 and for a reason, i think.
[04:06] <Mc_Fly87> re all
[04:06] <Mc_Fly87> bon besoin d'aide encore une fois
[04:06] <FloK> Jack_Sparrow, a link, why?
[04:06] <Sakireth> my*
[04:06] <Mc_Fly87> je viens d'installer ubuntu ce coup ci
[04:06] <void^> !fr
[04:06] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:07] <damo22> sudo sudo dpkg -i <package.deb>
[04:07] <damo22> oops too many sudos
[04:07] <Mc_Fly87> oups sorry :)
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> FloK:  I was sure I could read pdf's
[04:08] <shd> apt-get install blt yields "dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed" on 6.06 LTS server. Any idea what the problem is?
[04:10] <shd> ah. wrong channel. sorry.
[04:10] <Jack_Sparrow> FloK:  synaptic shows a pdf reader... do a search for PDF and not acrobat
[04:10] <zalmoxes> $ gksudo gedit  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:10] <zalmoxes> (gedit:5168): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[04:10] <zalmoxes> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[04:10] <earthsound> Sakireth: automake 1.4-p6 is 4 years old. I am not a Ubuntu expert, but I don't see why you would need to stick with that version
[04:11] <drbashir_> !vmware
[04:11] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[04:11] <ubuntu> a
[04:11] <zalmoxes> is that serious
[04:11] <fyrestrtr> zalmoxes: sudo pico /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:11] <mwe> odd. my usb pen used to auto mount at /meda/sda1. now it mounts as /media/usbdisk.
[04:11] <damo22> wow i found a hardware problem.... when my laptop lcd is dimmed, my soundcard outputs a dirty signal
[04:12] <earthsound> Sakireth: automake 1.9.6 is a year old...
[04:12] <damo22> anyone with a laptop, try putting lcd max brightness ... sound is cleaner
[04:12] <Jack_Sparrow> mwe: my flash drive has always been usbdisk and never sda1
[04:12] <FloK> Jack_Sparrow, ok but i want pdf
[04:12] <AngryElf> why are the ATI drivers so darn stubborn? -- i ran the ati installer, built the packages and the kernel mods, lsmod shows fglrx is loaded, fglrx is in the xorg.conf file, yet still fglrxinfo says it's not loaded correctly, any ideas?
[04:12] <summet> hi all i need to cut a single from a file
[04:12] <mwe> Jack_Sparrow: it's not a big deal. do you know where the name is controlled though?
[04:12] <summet> and redirected 2 some other file
[04:13] <Dr_willis> AngryElf,  i followed the !ATI wiki. i THINK i had to reboot to get them to load right.
[04:13] <Jack_Sparrow> FloK: You want pdf and pdf is in the repos if you search for PDF
[04:13] <damo22> angryelf, i think theres a bug with the current one, search the ubuntu forums for a solution
[04:13] <AngryElf> Dr_willis, i did reboot
[04:13] <Sakireth> earthsound: then i think the tool detects it wrongly
[04:13] <zalmoxes> how to update my kernel?
[04:13] <Dr_willis> AngryElf, bummer.. so much for the 'standard windows answer' :P
[04:13] <Jack_Sparrow> mwe... No dont kow how where it selects the name
[04:13] <AngryElf> Dr_willis, my day job :(
[04:14] <harmental> does anybody know if the (k)ubuntu team is planning ot release un update of conky in the repos?
[04:14] <Icemasta[God] > Hmmm, I got ANOTHER question XD
[04:14] <Ackeubu_> hey guys, it seems as if my flash media controller is supported from linux kernel 2.6.17. my dapper runns on 2.6.15, is there an "easy" way to update to the newer kernel?
[04:14] <Icemasta[God] > It's more WINE related, but anyway
[04:14] <mwe> harmental: what is it?
[04:14] <zalmoxes> !conky
[04:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about conky - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:14] <djon> salut a tous
[04:15] <Icemasta[God] > You HAVE to uninstall WINE and re-install wine everytime you install a game?
[04:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Wine "R"
[04:15] <zalmoxes> Icemasta[God] : you dont have reinstall wine
[04:15] <Icemasta[God] > 2. Remove any older version of Wine you have installed.
[04:15] <Icemasta[God] > Oh -.-
[04:15] <Icemasta[God] > XD
[04:15] <Icemasta[God] > I misread
[04:16] <zalmoxes> *to
[04:16] <billybennett> Jack_Sparrow, I got another USB thumb-drive and ive got files I cant delete.  How would I format it?
[04:16] <Icemasta[God] > No, wait a second, yes you have
[04:16] <Icemasta[God] > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft <<<
[04:16] <Icemasta[God] > Scroll down
[04:17] <rtiste> http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid14_gci1202417,00.html
[04:17] <rtiste> Ubuntu sure is great!
[04:17] <Jack_Sparrow> billybennett: What is the error when you try to delete them?
[04:18] <Jack_Sparrow> billybennett: Is it a permissions issue?
[04:18] <harmental> is linux kernel 2.6.17 available for ubuntu??
[04:18] <harisund> Is there a seperate channel for 64 bit Ubuntu?
[04:18] <GreenCult> hi all
[04:18] <billybennett> Jack_Sparrow, I cant right click delete
[04:18] <zalmoxes> Icemasta[God] : if the game requires you to patch the wine files, then you have to reinstall wine all over again every time you install a new game.
[04:18] <Davo_Dinkum> im installing ubuntu onto an ibm thinkpad, but it hangs during installation on the "Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel." screen. what should i do?
[04:19] <Icemasta[God] > But my other setings will stay the same for my other games, right/
[04:19] <fyrestrtr> Davo_Dinkum: what model thinkpad?
[04:19] <Icemasta[God] > Or applications, for that matter
[04:19] <mvhenten> Hello, does anyone know how to fix the xterm in ubuntu to make it work with midnight commander etc. ?
[04:19] <Icemasta[God] > Won't have to reconfig everything
[04:19] <harisund> Is there a seperate channel for 64 bit Ubuntu?
[04:19] <mvhenten> It is broken since I last time upgraded.
[04:19] <Icemasta[God] > Anyway, I think I'll just get cedega, much less trouble
[04:19] <billybennett> Jack_Sparrow, http://pastebin.ca/126456
[04:20] <zalmoxes> Icemasta[God] : gd idea
[04:20] <Davo_Dinkum> fyrestrtr: see om
[04:20] <Davo_Dinkum> *pm
[04:20] <Jack_Sparrow> billybennett: What happens when you click on a file in the drive and hit the delete key
[04:20] <fyrestrtr> Davo_Dinkum: you need to be identified to send pm on freenode
[04:21] <Davo_Dinkum>  i300 i think
[04:21] <Davo_Dinkum> Type 1171
[04:21] <Jack_Sparrow> billybennett: try that with sudo
[04:21] <billybennett> how do I sudo w/ file browser
[04:22] <abhinay> !laptop
[04:22] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[04:22] <drbreen_> billybennett: gksudo nautilis
[04:22] <billybennett> sweet thanks
[04:22] <Jack_Sparrow> gksudo nautilus
[04:22] <Davo_Dinkum> fyrestrtr: you here?
[04:22] <T`ch> yukk nautilus
[04:22] <T`ch> is it still bloated and slow?
[04:22] <Jack_Sparrow> billybennett: USe that sparringly and get out...
[04:22] <T`ch> haven't tried it in 2 years or so
[04:23] <billybennett> Jack_Sparrow, its saying everything is read-only
[04:23] <Jack_Sparrow> billybennett: Close it down, I didnt mean leave ... :)
[04:23] <zanpakuto> just curious during what program is run when partioning during installation?
[04:23] <billybennett> Jack_Sparrow, :P :P
[04:23] <T`ch> zanpakuto, gparted
[04:23] <Jack_Sparrow> billybennett: then it is possibly ntfs formatted now?
[04:24] <zanpakuto> T`ch, i mean on text install?
[04:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !ntfs
[04:24] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[04:24] <billybennett> Jack_Sparrow, can I only use this for Linux? Can I not use it between both?
[04:24] <T`ch> zanpakuto, may be partEd?
[04:24] <PingunZ> HiTech69, can someone take a look at this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20288
[04:24] <T`ch> zanpakuto, http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/
[04:24] <PingunZ> can someone take a look at this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20288
[04:25] <Jack_Sparrow> billybennett: fat32 can be shared with no drivers
[04:25] <billybennett> Jack_Sparrow, okay thanks lemme go format it
[04:25] <zanpakuto> T`ch, hmmm. it has an ncurses interface, oh well.
[04:25] <uwo> q1: how do i install fonts in gnome? is there sth i can do with a bunch of .pfm and .afm files?
[04:26] <Sakireth> is there some package to install all needed -dev libraries so i can compile everything? This is my question.
[04:26] <Jack_Sparrow> uwo: gnome-look.org  open theme manager and drop the tar.gz onto it
[04:26] <uwo> jack_sparrow: tnx.
[04:26] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[04:27] <T`ch> Sakireth, you dont want to do that.. it will fill up ur harddrive
[04:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Sakireth: Look up build-essentials
[04:27] <T`ch> Sakireth, always find which package you want and install
[04:27] <T`ch> yea build-essentials i a good start
[04:27] <T`ch> hehe
[04:27] <fyrestrtr> Davo_Dinkum: I am, what model thinkpad is it?
[04:27] <T`ch> anyone use firefox 32-bit on amd64?
[04:27] <T`ch> my fonts look a bit weirdish on 32-bit.. like a bit colored or not properly anti-aliased or something
[04:28] <Wizardling> Is the Opera browser available on Ubuntu? Their site detects I'm on a Mac and I cannot get any non-Mac info :-(
[04:28] <T`ch> Wizardling, are you?
[04:28] <fyrestrtr> Wizardling: yes it is, its available from the canonical commerical repos. I am using it right now.
[04:28] <jrib> !opera
[04:28] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[04:28] <Sakireth> ........ well no, and i will look into build-essentials - but as far as I know it only installs GCC and automake, i mean all the basic libs and KDE libs, X11 libs and... well, i just want to be able to run ./configure, then make, make install, and have it installed - without hassle.
[04:29] <Wizardling> thanks
[04:29] <Wizardling> what version of Opera is it?
[04:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Sakireth: good luck with that
[04:29] <Sakireth> Jack_Sparrow: Whaddaya mean? all the other distro's do that just fine.
[04:30] <Raito> How do I change the master boot record? I copied my ubuntu partition from /dev/sda2 to /dev/sda4. I want to change the master boot record to sda4 and then delete sda2. I did this so I could add the old partition space to my extended, how do I change the master boot record?
[04:30] <Davo_Dinkum> fyrestrtr: link here: http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/quickPath.do?quickPathEntry=1171vc2&sitestyle=lenovo
[04:30] <AngryElf> where would i find errors relating to /etc/fstab and the commands within?
[04:31] <Jack_Sparrow> AngryElf: what errors on what type of drives?
[04:31] <AngryElf> nfs shares that aren't getting auto-mounted, but mount -a mount's them fine
[04:32] <longbean> installing kde 3.5.4 apps on ubuntu without uninstalling gnome? possible? easy? what's the repository to use?
[04:32] <Jack_Sparrow> AngryElf: Dosent the diskmounter script take care of that automatically..
[04:32] <doraemon81> hello, may i noe how can i view chinese (unicode) in gedit?
[04:32] <Sakireth> Seriously guys, isn't that possible? All the other distro's (Gentoo, Arch Linux, Debian, others) do that just fine. If that isn't possible inside Ubuntu, then it should be fixed, since this is a missing part of Linux
[04:32] <Raito> longbean: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[04:32] <AngryElf> diskmounter script?
[04:32] <Jack_Sparrow> longbean: I install kde apps all the time..
[04:32] <pitti_> :quit
[04:32] <damo22> angryelf: are you talking about mounting upon bootup?
[04:32] <mwe> longbean: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest dapper main
[04:32] <Jack_Sparrow> longbean: k3b, konversation etc
[04:33] <Raito> you can have gnome and KDE at the same time
[04:33] <AngryElf> damo22, yes
[04:33] <longbean> yes, but the main ubuntu repository only has kde3.5.2
[04:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Raito: You dont need the kubuntu desktop..
[04:33] <Raito> Jack_Sparrow: You don't?
[04:33] <npster> What derivative of Ubuntu should I use for a very old Toshiba Satellite ?
[04:33] <damo22> angryelf: its possible that portmap isnt being loaded in the right order with mount script
[04:33] <fyrestrtr> Davo_Dinkum: look it up on thinkwiki -- see if there are any known issues.
[04:34] <jrib> Sakireth: if you want all dev packages to compile everything then you just install all the dev packages in all of the repositories :)  However, you may be more interested in first installing build-essential and then doing 'apt-get build-dep package_name' to get the needed deps for a package
[04:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Raito: Do you want to just run some of the apps or KDE as in the desktop manager?
[04:34] <Raito> Jack_Sparrow: Oh, I was meaning KDE as the desktop manager without getting rid of gnome >_<
[04:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !diskmounter
[04:34] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[04:34] <Sakireth> jrib: The problem is, when a package is not in the repository, deps can't be calculated - so compiling something without a package, would not be possible...
[04:35] <jrib> Sakireth: how do you do it in debian?
[04:35] <damo22> angryelf: sudo dpkg-reconfigure portmap
[04:35] <fyrestrtr> Raito: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Raito: you can have both and select yes..
[04:35] <Sakireth> jrib: ./configure, make, make install
[04:35] <azureal> lo again; random Q-- is gdebi useful at all?
[04:35] <longbean> mwe: thanks
[04:35] <jrib> Sakireth: I mean, how do you install the dependencies?
[04:35] <Raito> Jack_Sparrow: I apologize, anyways that is what I do anyway
[04:35] <azureal> or is gdebi obsolete (because of apt)
[04:35] <Sakireth> jrib: whaddaya mean?
[04:35] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[04:35] <Raito> How do I change the master boot record? I copied my ubuntu partition from /dev/sda2 to /dev/sda4. I want to change the master boot record to sda4 and then delete sda2. I did this so I could add the old partition space to my extended, how do I change the master boot record?
[04:36] <mwe> longbean: yw. add it to the end of /etc/apt/sources.list and sudo apt-get update
[04:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Raito: That is tricky...
[04:36] <Raito> Jack_Sparrow: Uh-oh, how would you do it though?
[04:36] <npster> What should I use Ubuntu, Xubuntu or Kubuntu for an old notebook that has 32 or 64 MB of RAM and 4GB of disk space, I have no idea about the graphics card. Oh yeah and it is a Pentium II ?
[04:36] <longbean> mwe: i'm an ex-debian user ;) I can take it from here :)
[04:36] <Sakireth> jrib: Anyways, installing all the libs doesn't fill up your hard drive, righty?
[04:36] <Sakireth> right*
[04:36] <mwe> longbean: ok good then
[04:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Raito: I would try  the super grub repair disk and see if it will not setup both 2 and 4 then delte
[04:37] <JackONeill> I've install xubuntu a while back, but I just installed gnome - can i swap back? if so what do I type?
[04:37] <Raito> Jack_Sparrow: What is the super grub repair disk? Is there no way to do it with the ubuntu liveCD?
[04:37] <Dr_willis> JackONeill,  at the login screen theres a menu item to pick what desktop to use.
[04:37] <damo22> angryelf: sudo dpkg-reconfigure nfs-common
[04:37] <jrib> Sakireth: depends on the size of your hard drive, I have no idea how much all of them would take up.  The README files usually list the dependencies needed
[04:37] <JackONeill> Dr_willis, not with the xubuntu logon screen
[04:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Raito: I dont think the live will do what you want..
[04:38] <Dr_willis> JackONeill,  switch to the gdm login screen then.. and tell the xubuntu guys to get with the program. :P or they may tell ya "dude its right THERRE!" :P
[04:38] <Raito> JackONeill: You can with the xubuntu logon screen, they both use gdm and you can configure it in gnome to have the xubuntu theme
[04:38] <Sakireth> jrib: I don't mean the dependecies but the libs. you know, when you install a KDE app on a non-ubuntu distro you compile it. on ubuntu that isn't possible. i mean how to get that to work?
[04:38] <Dr_willis> Raito,  i was thinking that also.
[04:38] <Stonekeeper> hi. anyone know where lpadmin lives to add cups printers? cheers.
[04:39] <JackONeill> I don't see an opton Dr_willis , Raito
[04:39] <damo22> sakireth: it is possible to compile kde apps on ubuntu
[04:39] <JackONeill> Honestly!
[04:39] <Raito> Jack_Sparrow: Oh my, so where might I find this super grub disk? It better not be a floppy, I don't have a floppy drive
[04:39] <birdie_> how do i set my screen res >1024*768? there isnt 1280*1024 in the drop down list but both my monitor and graphics card support it
[04:39] <ubuntu-newbie> hello all; my ubuntu machine (next to this laptop) suddenly has no network connection anymore. ifconfig also tells me no inet addr for the eth0 device. but i hadn"t changed anything! how can i do a dhcp request in linux? i found something called dhcpcd but that is not installed on my system...
[04:40] <Sakireth> damo22: I know but you need the libs. which i need to install, but i don't know how >_<. i wanna be able to compile every app on ubuntu like is possible on Arch and Gentoo and ALL OTHER DISTRO'S
[04:40] <node_runner> anyone here have fglrx drivers working on a radeon mobile card? (i'm running on a 9600 M10 from a thinkpad t42)
[04:40] <Dr_willis> node_runner,  they work on my x200m
[04:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Raito: http://adrian15.raulete.net/grub/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=1&comments_parentId=9 link in bottom right corner
[04:40] <damo22> sakireth: you need all "-dev" packages
[04:40] <Raito> JackONeill: Uhh, how come? I did it before. The xubuntu login theme is just a gdm theme so you can switch to it
[04:40] <Sakireth> like, when you run make, just let it run and let it get the job done
[04:40] <Sakireth> damo22: how<?
[04:40] <jrib> Sakireth: it's the same as any other distro.  Install build-essential to get the basic stuff, install the dependencies you need, ./configure, make, make install.
[04:40] <node_runner> willis: did you use the ati installer or one of the pre-build debs?
[04:40] <damo22> sakireth: in /etc/apt/sources.list you need deb-src listings
[04:41] <Dr_willis> node_runner,  i followed the !ati wiki
[04:41] <ubuntu-newbie> i do have an inet6 addr, however, but that is just a bunch of hex seperated by ::'s
[04:41] <Raito> Jack_Sparrow: An error occured in the database query
[04:41] <Sakireth> damo22: :D and then?
[04:41] <node_runner> (looking now)
[04:41] <ucordes> !xgl
[04:41] <damo22> sakireth: then sudo apt-get install blah.deb
[04:41] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Raito: Link is in the bottom right corner
[04:41] <Sakireth> damo22: :D and where to get the listings?
[04:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Raito: it still works
[04:41] <damo22> sakireth: then sudo apt-get install blah source package i mean
[04:41] <longbean> sakireth: no easy way beyond trying to make sure you have the right development libraries for the app you're trying to compile
[04:41] <Raito> oh, which one is it?
[04:42] <node_runner> I keep getting problems with my libGL.so lib. missing symbol....
[04:42] <damo22> sakireth: try www.ubuntulinux.nl look for source-o-matic
[04:42] <damo22> sakireth: you can generate a current sources.list
[04:43] <jrib> Sakireth: you can take a look at auto-apt for what you want but I never had any luck.  Really, you should stick to the repos unless you really need to compile a few apps, and then once you get their dependencies installed you never have to worry about it again
[04:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Raito: Do you have a windows machine there.. if so use the zip with the iso, or select the tar.gz
[04:43] <birdie_> how do i set my screen res >1024*768? there isnt 1280*1024 in the drop down list but both my monitor and graphics card support it
[04:43] <jrib> !fixres > birdie_
[04:43] <Raito> Raito: Oh, the sgd_blahblahblah, thing. I have xubuntu now, but I clicked the ZIP >_<, that won't kill me would it?
[04:43] <ubuntu-newbie> ok i think my ip4 is gone, when i check in network tools in system/administration i see no ip4 for eth0, but very much for the loopback device. how would i reinstall ip4?
[04:44] <birdie_> thanks jrib
[04:44] <tuxtux> ciao
[04:44] <damo22> birdie: make sure you backup your old xorg.conf, then do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:44] <Jack_Sparrow> birdie_: What video card and have you installed the drivers for it
[04:44] <Sakireth> jrib: weird that it is so difficult in ubuntu while in almost every other distro you can just make install and let it do the rest, you just sit back and relax.
[04:44] <Jack_Sparrow> birdie_: else you are running vesa mode
[04:44] <node_runner> newbie: the eth0 interface just isn't up. there is no "ipv4" package to install. it's built into your kernel.
[04:44] <birdie_> im running a 6800 GS
[04:45] <Jack_Sparrow> 6600 here
[04:45] <node_runner> if you are on dhcp, try running: sudo ifup eth0 or sudo dhclient eth0
[04:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !nvidia
[04:45] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:45] <jrib> Sakireth: that is probably because you already have the dependencies you need installed
[04:45] <birdie_> and i followed a general driver install howto
[04:46] <longbean> ubuntu-newbie: administration->networking is what you actually want i think
[04:46] <Sakireth> jrib: yes and now is my question, how to get the same on ubuntu? install all -dev packages? HOW?
[04:46] <harisund> For those of you who have tried virtual machines, which do you think is faster? (as in better emulation?) Qemu or VMware?
[04:46] <ubuntu-newbie> node_runner: ok; the fact the there is no ip4 in my network tools means that the dhcp request was not answered, i suppose? i can happily exclude hardwareproblems as a suse distro does the work as it issupposed to; thats why my question: can i do a dhcp request in a terminal?
[04:46] <damo22> harisund, vmware is better in my opinion
[04:47] <Jack_Sparrow> birdie_: If you go to a terminal and type glxgears -printfps what do you get..
[04:47] <harisund> damo22: hmmm...ok I am going to take your opinion for it .. :)
[04:47] <jrib> Sakireth: I wasn't really serious, but you would do: sudo apt-get install '.*-dev'
[04:47] <ubuntu-newbie> longbean: that is where i was! sorry for the incorrect description
[04:48] <Jack_Sparrow> jrib: :)
[04:48] <spegel> How do I replace a file in wine?
[04:48] <Raito> Is it possible to boot an iso from a usbdrive? How would I make a 1:1 copy?
[04:48] <spegel> Need to replace a .exe, but cant find the path at all
[04:48] <harisund> Also, this is a question in general. How good or ok is it to install packages manually? I am talking about stuff like the latest Adobe Acrobat, RealPlayer, Firefox ... directly from .tar.gz or .bin file and use checkinstall to get a .deb perhaps ...
[04:48] <harisund> spegel: need to replace a what?
[04:48] <birdie_> empty file
[04:48] <Sakireth> jrib: Oh. but if Ubuntu doesn't support it, that means Ubuntu doesn't have all features Linux has, which means Ubuntu isn't linux-compatible so well
[04:48] <birdie_> im just isntalling legacy drivers
[04:48] <beerockxs> how can I reset the gnome font settings to the defaults?
[04:48] <jrib> Sakireth: what do you mean by "it"?
[04:48] <spegel> a .exe, need to crack frozen throne because wine cant handle the cd-check
[04:49] <harisund> Sakireth: what feature isn't available?
[04:49] <harisund> spegel: do you mean the file extension is a .exe? Then just search for all .exe files on your hard disk?
[04:49] <spegel> Nothing comes up
[04:49] <harisund> spegel: how are you searching for .exe files?
[04:49] <spegel> file browser
[04:49] <spegel> search
[04:49] <Jack_Sparrow> troll
[04:50] <hellokthulu> Howdy, all...
[04:50] <harisund> spegel: oh ok ... I thought you were using teh command line.
[04:50] <spegel> Nah just switched from windows :D
[04:50] <hellokthulu> please help my failing memory -- there was a site with info on how to turn off/on services in a nice GUI way... sorry :-(
[04:51] <jrib> hellokthulu: install bum
[04:51] <longbean> spegel: files installed by wine reside in the .wine directory located in your home directory. it's a hidden directory
[04:51] <harisund> spegel: If you want to use the terminal try find . -name '*.exe'
[04:51] <hellokthulu> bum, eh?  Or was that an insult :-)
[04:51] <Bison> hello
[04:51] <spegel> oh thanks :)
[04:52] <harisund> jrib: does bum (hellokthulu bum is boot up manager) remove symlinks?
[04:52] <spegel> view -> view hidden files solved it :)
[04:52] <Bison> Anyone know how I can connect to a MSSQL server without using windows?
[04:52] <jrib> harisund: I don't know
[04:52] <Davo_Dinkum> bye all
[04:52] <node_runner> bison: mysql -u <username> -h <hostname> -p
[04:52] <harisund> jrib: the last time I tried bum it only showed me the services and allowed me to stop them,  but didn't really allow me to delete symlinks.
[04:52] <jo_> hello i run urbuntu  dus it have sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[04:52] <jo_>  wontwork?
[04:53] <hc> hi, anyone succeded in running Dreamweaver 8 in Ubuntu?
[04:53] <Bison> node_runner: that will connect to mssql?
[04:53] <jo_> no flashplayer
[04:53] <jrib> jo_: it is flashplugin-nonfree now in Dapper, make sure you have the multiverse repository installed
[04:53] <Bison> hc: check winehq.com
[04:53] <ompaul> Sakireth, have you enabled the sources for sources in your /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[04:53] <Stian> Greetings, can I install Ubuntu 6.06 remotely?
[04:54] <ompaul> !install > Stian
[04:54] <node_runner> bison: ah sorry, i thought you mean mysql. Do you know python? you could use the python mssql api and just go into a python shell and run queries.
[04:54] <jo_> multiverse repository i hqave but stil no good
[04:54] <jo_> Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree
[04:54] <ompaul> Stian, all methods for installing are on url sent to you by the channel bot
[04:54] <Stian> I've got this server with a busted graphicscard
[04:54] <node_runner> bison: but off the top of my head, I don't know of any MSSQL clients for linux. Try searching sourceforge
[04:54] <Bison> node_runner: Yes, but that might be a little overkill
[04:54] <jrib> jo_: can you put the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and give us a link to your post?
[04:54] <Stian> I'm allready installed thank you
[04:54] <Bison> ah, good plan
[04:55] <beerockxs> how can I reset the gnome font settings to the defaults?
[04:55] <Stian> ompaul, okay, however, the bot was slooow, so I got the message long after
[04:55] <hellokthulu> Okay, I can't find 'bum' in Synaptic... does it need a special server?
[04:55] <longbean> jo_: did you run apt-get update after you added the source?
[04:56] <jrib> !universe > hellokthulu
[04:56] <jo_> je ssend it
[04:56] <jo_> yes
[04:56] <node_runner> ok it looks like I might have a libGL conflict. libGL.so is installed both by the fglrx driver and by libgl1-mesa-dev
[04:56] <jrib> jo_: url?
[04:56] <node_runner> I'm guessing I need to purge libgl1-mesa-dev
[04:56] <jo_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20294
[04:56] <rcmiv> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20294
[04:56] <ompaul> !info bum
[04:56] <ubotu> bum: graphical runlevel editor. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.1.5-1build1 (dapper), package size 74 kB, installed size 484 kB
[04:57] <ompaul> hellokthulu, it needs universe
[04:57] <Seveas> ompaul, for info on your bum, get a few mirrors
[04:57] <hellokthulu> thanks!
[04:57] <ubuntu-newbie> fyi: how to request dhcp address: use command dhclient
[04:57] <spanglesontoast> hey does anyone know why when compiling gcc it spits this out ? xgcc: Internal error: Killed (program cc1)
[04:57] <ompaul> !mulitiverse > hellokthulu
[04:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about mulitiverse  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:57] <ompaul> !multiverse > hellokthulu
[04:57] <Seveas> spanglesontoast, because you found a  bug in gcc 
[04:57] <ompaul> hellokthulu, check the message from the bot
[04:57] <jrib> jo_: did you do what longbean suggested?
[04:57] <Simon17> Die Alles entscheidende frage ist und bleibt wird beim ubuntu setup automatisch ein smp kernel installiert wenn ein athlon x2 eingebaut ist
[04:58] <Simon17> hi
[04:58] <ompaul> !de
[04:58] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:58] <hellokthulu> Thanks all!  I appreciate it.
[04:58] <jo_> no look back
[04:58] <Seveas> Simon17, english only in here please
[04:58] <Stian> ompaul, the documents supplied by ubotu weren't helpful
[04:58] <jo_> yes did that
[04:58] <bina> hi, how do you find out the version of the QT libraries you have installed?
[04:58] <Simon17> i have an athlon x2 cpu and want to install ubuntu! i need a smp kernel ! do ubuntu automatical install this smp kernel?
[04:58] <kaharas> hi all... someone knews a video player who runs without X server?
[04:58] <nf_linux> man, im lost
[04:58] <harisund>  /gone
[04:58] <jo_> Simon17>jes
[04:59] <Simon17> oh great
[04:59] <nf_linux> I've got all my compile packages installed, but I can't compile anything :(
[04:59] <Simon17> thanks for help
[04:59] <jrib> jo_: ok, can you try now again: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[04:59] <erUSUL> Simon17: afaik the ubuntu default kernel detects smp and use it if aviable
[04:59] <jo_> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[04:59] <jo_> Reading package lists... Done
[04:59] <jo_> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:59] <jo_> E: Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree
[04:59] <kaharas> I would like to play a video without have to start the X server... just to save some ram...
[04:59] <node_runner> kaharas: im not sure that would be possible.
[04:59] <ompaul> Stian, on that page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot thats the closest to what you want that I can see - it is on the first one of those links
[04:59] <erUSUL> !paste > jo_
[04:59] <jo_> sorry
[05:00] <erUSUL> !sources > jo_
[05:00] <jrib> jo_: what architecture are you using?
[05:00] <jo_> urbuntu amd64bit
[05:00] <Seveas> jo_, then you're out of luck
[05:00] <jrib> jo_: flash isn't availabe for 64bit I believe
[05:00] <kaharas> node_runner, i read somewhere it is, but i cannot remember how...
[05:00] <nf_linux> I don't understand this at all...i've got gcc installed, and when I try to compile aterm, it's convinced I don't have anything to compile with :(
[05:00] <node_runner> kaharas: try running inside of a lightweight desktop instead of the default gnome, that will clear some ram.
[05:00] <Seveas> there is no flash for 64 bits
[05:00] <jo_> gr
[05:00] <jo_> gentoo have it
[05:00] <frogzoo> nf_linux: 'which gcc'
[05:01] <kaharas> i've still tried fluxbox...
[05:01] <kaharas> and it uses too much ram
[05:01] <nf_linux> frogzoo: bith 3.3 and 4.0
[05:01] <jo_> nu skype no  flash  gr
[05:01] <frogzoo> nf_linux: I mean run the command
[05:01] <longbean> damn adobe. no love for linux there
[05:01] <scifi> hi gus, a friend of mine has ubuntu installed, but cant get dvd playback working. it works on mine, but i cant remember what i installed to get it working. can someone remind me?
[05:01] <jo_> gentoo has this all
[05:01] <node_runner> kaharas: hmmm, how much ram do you have? is that slowing your vide performance?
[05:01] <jrib> jo_: it's easier to just use 32bit ubuntu if you want that stuff
[05:01] <ompaul> !chroot > jo_
[05:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about chroot  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:01] <nf_linux> damn...nothing
[05:01] <kaharas> 128 MB...
[05:01] <nf_linux> ok..maybe it isn't installed...
[05:01] <ompaul> jo_, they are 32 bit aps read the message from the bot
[05:01] <frogzoo> jo_: yes, gentoo  has later stuff, we know this
[05:01] <beerockxs> how can I reset the gnome font settings to the defaults?
[05:02] <kaharas> and when i try to run a avi video i see it bad
[05:02] <jo_> oke thanks for the help
[05:02] <kaharas> else if i've installed all the codecs and filters needed
[05:02] <Stian> Hmm, netboot seems horrible, someone needs to make it so it's possible to install over ssh og even vnc
[05:02] <scifi> !dvd
[05:02] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:02] <nf_linux> thats weird, because in synaptic it shows both being installed
[05:03] <node_runner> kaharas: the thing is, even if some app played video without relying on x for a framebuffer device, it would still have to have it's own built in X-like display system.
[05:03] <ompaul> Stian, well you did not see that one - there might be other stuff in there thankfully I have access to the boxes I work on :)
[05:03] <fredrin> anyone here have played with drupal and exim4?
[05:03] <Casanova> Suddenly apt-get install isnt working http://pastebin.ca/126489
[05:03] <Casanova> can someone help?
[05:03] <kaharas> node_runner... this means the ram usage will be the same?
[05:04] <hellokthulu> Anyone know how to set up Ubuntu so it automagically log in a specific user?
[05:04] <jdier> which is the preferred ftp gui for ubuntu?
[05:04] <Casanova> hellokthulu: configure GDM
[05:04] <node_runner> kaharas: pretty much. unless you happen to find some project where some crazy guy decided to code his entire frame-buffer device completely in assembly. ;)
[05:04] <Casanova> hellokthulu: sudo gdmsetup
[05:04] <Casanova> jdier: gftp ?
[05:04] <hellokthulu> Casanova: Thanks!
[05:05] <Casanova> can someone help me with my problem :(
[05:05] <node_runner> kaharas: how much swap space do you have?
[05:05] <kaharas> 300 MB
[05:05] <ompaul> hellokthulu, system administration login window
[05:05] <Stian> ompaul, well, I am just commenting, there should be should way of install :P The vga port on this server is busted, so it can't install crap
[05:05] <kaharas> but the image is realy noisy
[05:05] <hellokthulu> ompaul: Thanks!
[05:05] <rcmiv> Casanova, sudo?
[05:05] <Casanova> rcmiv: yes i did use sudo
[05:05] <node_runner> kaharas: do you get a low framerate?
[05:06] <ompaul> Stian, how busted - does it go all "fuzzy" as you start or is it missing completely?
[05:06] <kaharas> yes, and the frame that the player show are really bad
[05:06] <ompaul> Casanova, ehh wrt your paste - filesystem is read only -- problem booting?
[05:06] <Stian> ompaul, the server beeps when it starts up, and there's never any image from the server, no signal, so I guess the chip is gone
[05:06] <Stian> otherwise the server works fine
[05:07] <Casanova> hmmm let me try rebooting then :|
[05:07] <ompaul> Stian, check the back of it for a second vga output
[05:07] <node_runner> hmmm. what codec are you using? if you use something really efficient, like ogg theora, you might have better luck than avi. can you re-encode the source file into something else?
[05:07] <Stian> ompaul, there is none, and we tried putting in another card, but it's some pci64 or whatever. damned new technology
[05:07] <ompaul> Stian, try f2 / f12 f10 for access to bios just for laughs
[05:07] <ompaul> Stian, its digital out
[05:08] <Stian> ompaul, my friend (the owner) has tried just about everything
[05:08] <dmd_> When doing "apt-get install thy" , for some reason apt fails to install the files in /etc/thy/ and /etc/default ... what might cause this?
[05:08] <dmd_> package is http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=thy&version=dapper&arch=i386
[05:08] <Frem> I need to connect to a computer windows computer on the network using samba, but nothing shows up in "smb:///". I can see the computer if I use smbtree from the command line, though.
[05:08] <Stian> and he works with hardware, i'm just a software gimp
[05:08] <ompaul> Stian, make the monitor talk to the analogue out
[05:08] <AnAnt> what is new in ubuntu 6.06.1 ?
[05:08] <rsk> AnAnt: just an updated livecd
[05:09] <kaharas> node_runner i'm using vlc codecs...
[05:09] <node_runner> is anyone here running the xorg-fglrx drivers *without* having libgl1-mesa installed?
[05:09] <whoppix> hey ho all :) i have a little problem with playing dvds, i installed the libdvdcss package for ubuntu, and i can play dvds with xine, but neither totem nor vlc are able to play dvds. vlc outputs the following error msg: dvdread demuxer error: DVDRead cannot open source: main input error: no suitable access module for `dvd://'. thanks for help how to get it to work in advance :)
[05:09] <Stian> ompaul, it's actual server hardware, so there's nothing fancy on it
[05:09] <node_runner> kaharas: I'm not sure what to tell you, other than to check and make sure your video drivers are working ok.
[05:09] <ompaul> Stian, and no two ports on the back ---- new video card 30
[05:09] <erUSUL> AnAnt: the updates you've been receiving via update-manager in cdrom
[05:09] <kaharas> ok :) ty a lot... see you :)
[05:09] <fiXXXerMet> I've got the Ubuntu Desktop install CD here.  When I choose "Start or Install Ubuntu", it always starts Ubuntu into a live-CD mode - how do I install in graphic mode from here?
[05:10] <Stian> ompaul, no, there are no other video outputs
[05:10] <lesce> can somebody help me ? i'm trying to change the ubuntu logo  from the menu bar
[05:10] <AnAnt> erUSUL: yes, I mean, what's so new, that they decided to call the last update 6.06.1 ?
[05:10] <beerockxs> how can I reset the gnome font settings to the defaults?
[05:10] <ompaul> Stian, grab one from anywhere else
[05:10] <AnAnt> what's new in the .1 ?
[05:10] <Stian> we tried, but there some wacky pci 64 or whatever, what we have at hand right now doesn't work and it's friday night
[05:11] <erUSUL> AnAnt: nothing it is just a new version of the cdroms
[05:11] <lesce> i've changed the gnome-logo-icon.png but it doesn't work
[05:11] <AnAnt> ic
[05:11] <longbean> fiXXXerMet: look under the System menu iiirc
[05:11] <torpedo|dog> beerockxs: well, you can go to System > Preferences > Font and set it to what you want...lemme see if I can find a way to reset to default
[05:11] <ompaul> AnAnt, rsk answered you, for specifics look on this url and https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-announce
[05:11] <ompaul> Stian, it is friday - not night here yet :-)
[05:12] <AnAnt> ompaul: thanks
[05:12] <erUSUL> AnAnt: if you install with the old cd's just after install you will have to dl ~400 MB of updates. with the new cd's you won't
[05:12] <ompaul> erUSUL, hmm
[05:12] <Stian> hehe, we are one hour ahead :P
[05:12] <AnAnt> ic
[05:13] <fiXXXerMet> longbean:  System Menu, after it boots up?
[05:13] <Stian> can I create an unattended installer for ubuntu server?
[05:13] <summet> i need to cut a single line from a file and put it on other file
[05:13] <mega_sonic> if you dont have the 64mb of RAM will Ubunto not start up?
[05:13] <longbean> fiXXXerMet: yes. you install from the liveCD system
[05:14] <fiXXXerMet> Thanks, longbean.
[05:14] <cbgb> !amarok > cbgb
[05:14] <viper550> Guess what, I'm trying out a new IRC client!
[05:15] <ompaul> !msgthebot > cbgb
[05:15] <ompaul> :-)
[05:17] <cbgb> ompaul: sorry i'm new to IRC, is there something wrog what I did?
[05:18] <ompaul> cbgb, - just saying do /msg bot keyword
[05:18] <trappist> cbgb: so you can query the bot without triggering 900 people's activity indicators
[05:18] <CraZy675> So I wanna install ubuntu here at work
[05:18] <guru_> din
[05:18] <AnAnt> does anyone know the name of the widget that looks like a bubble , Ubuntu uses this widget in it's update manager to tell if there are new updates or need to reboot
[05:18] <guru_> huripudin
[05:19] <CraZy675> but I dont want to loose by ntfs partition incase something goes wrong
[05:19] <guru_> huripudin
[05:19] <seadog> hello all
[05:19] <guru_> huripudin
[05:19] <mormoloc> messed my repositories (6.0.6 Drapper), how do I undo the damage?
[05:19] <CraZy675> what app should i use to shirnk the partition?
[05:19] <trappist> AnAnt: it's probably an icon, not a widget
[05:19] <CraZy675> partition magic? or Gparted? something else?
[05:20] <AnAnt> trappist: no, it is a message bubble that appears BELOW the icon
[05:20] <trappist> CraZy675: the ntfs resizing is quite safe.  if it runs into any kind of problem, it'll refuse to commit the changes.
[05:20] <cbgb> ok - sorry, is there somewhere a howto or something
[05:20] <CraZy675> trappist included in ubuntu?
[05:20] <trappist> cbgb: just /msg ubotu myquestion
[05:20] <trappist> CraZy675: yes
[05:20] <longbean> mormoloc: define "messed"
[05:20] <harisund> cbgb: are you registered on Freenode?
[05:20] <trappist> CraZy675: you'll want to defrag in windows first for best results
[05:20] <cbgb> harisund: nope
[05:21] <trappist> !register > cbgb
[05:21] <ag0ny> can someone tell me why some apps usw a way to small font? i am using ubuntu dapper drake 6.06. "xdpyinfo | grep resolution" gives "resolution:    75x75 dots per inch". but in the gnome-font-properties...
[05:21] <mormoloc> longbean: changed them
[05:21] <CraZy675> trappist: ofcourse, any man pages online?
[05:21] <harisund> trappist: will cbgb get private messages from ubotu if he is not registered?
[05:21] <ag0ny> i have 96dpi. this sounds to be the problem. but idont know where to change the 75 dpi to 96 dpi
[05:21] <mormoloc> longbean: now i cant install nothing :(
[05:21] <trappist> CraZy675: shouldn't be necessary - the ubuntu installer should make it pretty painless
[05:21] <ag0ny> can someone help?
[05:21] <trappist> harisund: erm.  good question :)
[05:21] <longbean> mormoloc: and now they don't work? you didn't keep a backup by any chance?
[05:21] <cbgb> harisund: I got messages, so I guess yes
[05:22] <mormoloc> longbean: nope :(
[05:22] <whoppix> does someone know a tool how to recover deleted files from a reiserfs file system? (files where accidentially mv'ed instead of cp'ed, the partition is untouched, no new files etc). best would be if the tool would be included on some live distro :)
[05:22] <CraZy675> trappist: ok I'm sold is this feature included in kubuntu?
[05:22] <trappist> whoppix: deleted files are not recoverable from reiserfs
[05:22] <trappist> CraZy675: yes
[05:22] <morphycs> what is the best visual web site editor that supports drag and drop?
[05:22] <whoppix> trappist, uhm, thats bad
[05:22] <nn> for some reason, i just can not get grub nor lilo to install on this bloody pos of a machine.. i had to boot from a cd w/ rescue mode and do a chroot to get on irc.. :\
[05:22] <trappist> CraZy675: 'ntfsresize' is the command, if you want to check out the man page
[05:23] <trappist> whoppix: arguably
[05:23] <whoppix> trappist, ok, anyway, thx, i have a backup, i just have to find it :)
[05:23] <trappist> whoppix: sure feels that way when you accidentally delete a file, but the book says 'restore from backup' :)  you do have backups, right?
[05:23] <longbean> mormoloc: hm. you just need a clean sources.list but i'm not sure the easiest way to do that
[05:23] <trappist> good answer!
[05:23] <whoppix> trappist, yeah, i have a backup.. somewhere in this stack *pointing at a giant stack of cds, floppys, usb sticks and dvds*
[05:24] <mormoloc> longbean: I get this message for every program I install (try) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20302
[05:24] <trappist> whoppix: you forgot 'tapes and old hard drives'
[05:24] <whoppix> trappist, oh, yeah, old harddrive.. but i dont have any tapes :)
[05:24] <whoppix> +s
[05:25] <seadog> i have n othing but stacks of cds,dvds and hdd's
[05:25] <rouzic> Hi all
[05:25] <not-a-bot> Hello, does anyone else use GAIM 2.0 beta 3 on dapper? My Auto-Away status change is broken, is that aknown issue?
[05:25] <trappist> mormoloc: I think that package has been obsoleted in favor of 'openoffice.org', which should install OOo2
[05:25] <longbean> mormoloc: can you paste your sources.list?
[05:26] <not-a-bot> The "Change status to ..." pulldown-menu is simply empty and gaim doesn't change my status on away
[05:26] <not-a-bot> Is there any way to fix that?
[05:26] <trappist> not-a-bot: you might ask in #gaim - I don't think that's an official ubuntu package
[05:26] <mormoloc> longbean: where is this source.list?
[05:26] <seadog> i'm not using the beta here
[05:26] <trappist> mormoloc: /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:26] <not-a-bot> nope, no it isn't ... the official ubuntu version of gaim crashed every time it loaded my messenger contacts
[05:27] <not-a-bot> I guess I#ll aks in GAIM :)
[05:27] <mormoloc> trappist: I get that error for every program i try to install
[05:27] <not-a-bot> thank's
[05:27] <trappist> mormoloc: oh, that's no good.  you probably need to fix your sources.list and/or apt-get update
[05:28] <erUSUL> !source-o-matic > mormoloc
[05:29] <beerockxs> torpedo|dog: I suppose you have not found a way to revert that to defaults?
[05:30] <torpedo|dog> beerockxs: nope.
[05:30] <torpedo|dog> I could tell you what they are, though.
[05:30] <nomad411> !password
[05:30] <ubotu> Forgot your password? Boot into recovery mode. What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StrongPasswords
[05:31] <Rudy507> hey all. Anyone know of any good fax software that uses the computer's modem to send a fax? I have a fax I need to send, and attach a couple .doc files to it
[05:31] <Kyral_Laptop> Faxes....
[05:31] <beerockxs> say I have a directory with lots of subdirectories, and each subdirectory has a subdirectory named 'bla'. is there an easy command to delete all of them at once?
[05:31] <NthDegree> Rudy507 I believe that is built in some how
[05:32] <orhthotheo> hello! i got a localeerror which i think came upon myself by editing something. here's an error from easyubuntu: http://85.230.43.24/localeerror
[05:32] <erUSUL> Rudy507: iirc hylafax was a good suite for faxes. i do not know if it comes in ubuntu
[05:32] <jo_> *
[05:33] <Rudy507> interesting... I'll boot into ubuntu and take a look then - the longer I use linux, the more and more I HATE windows. (the only reason I'm in windows right now is to send a fax, and it's making things quite difficult)
[05:33] <longbean> beerockxs: i don't know about "easy", but the find command could probably do something like that with the right options
[05:33] <erUSUL> Rudy507:  apt-cache search fax gives a lot of candidates
[05:33] <nomad411> Rudy507: It's soooooo easy to dislike Windows
[05:33] <nomad411> :)
[05:33] <Rudy507> great, thanks. I'll take a look
[05:33] <Rudy507> lol, you got that right, nomad
[05:33] <nn> apt-cache search fax|sort|less
[05:33] <nn> :)
[05:34] <nomad411> I just got a macbook yesterday.  Windows, never more
[05:34] <nn> i just bought OS X for my dell :P
[05:34] <nomad411> hehe
[05:34] <npalmer> anyone know how I find out what version of opengl driver I have?
[05:35] <neildarlow> what command do i execute after adding a file to /etc/modprobe.d?
[05:35] <longwave> beerockxs: you can do things like that with the "find" command
[05:35] <longwave> beerockxs: cd to the first directory, then something like "find . -name 'bla' | xargs rmdir" will find anything named "bla" and rmdir it
[05:35] <erUSUL> beerockxs: find /path/to/dir -name bla -print | xargs rm
[05:36] <Linuturk_code> what is the command to check an ext3 file system for errors?
[05:36] <erUSUL> beerockxs: find /path/to/dir -name bla -print | xargs rm -r
[05:36] <sproingie> Linuturk_code: fsck
[05:36] <Linuturk_code> thanks
[05:36] <beerockxs> thanks longwave, erUSUL
[05:36] <erUSUL> Linuturk_code: fsck.ext3
[05:36] <harisund> beerockxs: if you are searching for directories only: find /path/you/want -name 'bla' -type d -exec rm -rf {} \;
[05:37] <neildarlow> Linuturk_code: or fsck -t ext3 :)
[05:37] <George> how do I stop ubuntu from loading the driver module for a certain device every boot up?
[05:37] <kinection_> hello, i'm running memtest off of the ubuntu cd on a system i just built that uses 2x 1GB G.Skill DDR2 667 sticks, and it's throwing errors on tests, does this mean i will need to buy new memory?
[05:37] <Rudy507> Ok, let's see here...... :)
[05:37] <harisund> beerockxs: if you have the patience, find can do a ton of other things. You could say stuff like 'delete only those bla's that were created after jan 3nd' and stuff like that
[05:37] <George> I have onboard sound and a PCI Audigy and I don't want it to load the onboard sound (and disabling it in the BIOS doesn't appear to do much)
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[05:38] <fyrestrtr> George: blacklist it.
[05:38] <jo_> ore put it in oter slot
[05:38] <mormoloc> Im looking for something that reads .doc files (not openoffice and abiword)
[05:38] <kinection_> jo_: k, i'm trying that
[05:38] <neildarlow> kinection_: not necessarily. check your bios timing settings and, if possible, get it to auto-configure them e.g. load default, load optimal etc.
[05:38] <George> fyrestrtr: how?
[05:38] <kinection_> neildarlow: alright, thanks.
[05:38] <fyrestrtr> !blacklist > George
[05:39] <George> thanks fyrestrtr
[05:39] <ardchoille> !blacklist > ardchoille
[05:39] <Rudy507> hmm.... found a program called efax in the package manager... I'm going to try it out
[05:40] <Rudy507> actually, first I'm going to see if I can find any officially supported packages
[05:40] <ardchoille> !info efax
[05:40] <ubotu> efax: programs to send and receive fax messages. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1:0.9a-18 (dapper), package size 107 kB, installed size 300 kB
[05:42] <Rudy507> !info mgetty-fax
[05:42] <ubotu> mgetty-fax: Faxing tools for mgetty. In repository main, is extra. Version 1.1.33-3ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 132 kB, installed size 580 kB
[05:42] <Rudy507> err.. sorry, I rpobably should have /msg the bot
[05:42] <djk_> is there a partition size limit for ext3?
[05:43] <Stian> does the desktop-cd include vnc, that is, vnc package that is either enabled or that can be enabled?
[05:43] <harisund> Stian: there is a vnc server called 'vino' that is included.
[05:43] <travesty> Are there any plans to update the Rails package for the massive security hole patched yesterday? I am running that on my 6.06 LTS machine and wondering at this point if I should ditch the package and manually install a non-vulnerable version. Why is the response to this so slow?
[05:43] <erUSUL> djk_: sure, but i doubt you've encountered it. iirc is of more than a few terabytes
[05:43] <harisund> Stian: you can enable it by going to the 'remote desktop' settings option.
[05:43] <trappist> travesty: a fix has been committed and should be released soon
[05:44] <monkey13> What do I need to edit configwise to allow me to launch an xterm from a remote server to my localhost?
[05:44] <djk_> erUSUL: that's what i thought, however, i have two 115gb partitions, both only contain ~200mb at the moment, yet df -h shows only 109gb free
[05:44] <harisund> monkey13: are you planning on doing ti using SSH X forwards perhaps?
[05:44] <harisund> Stian: did you get my earlier message?
[05:45] <travesty> trappist - Thanks
[05:45] <monkey13> if that is best, I was just setting thr remote server display veriable to my my localip:0.0
[05:45] <harisund> oh ... that wouldn't work .... you need something to forward the graphics ..
[05:45] <stian> harisund, I got the one about enableing remote desktop, however, I have no way of getting a monitor connected to the server
[05:45] <monkey13> how would I do it via an ssh command?
[05:46] <harisund> ah .. you do have other options though stian .. you can try something called NX .. though not the same as VNC ...
[05:46] <harisund> monkey13: you would conect to the remote server using "ssh -X user@remote-machine" ..
[05:46] <erUSUL> djk_: this is normal due to filesystem layout and other diffs between what differnet tools think about what is free space
[05:46] <stian> harisund, but is it installed? I need to actually install ubuntu on the server :)
[05:46] <stian> nx isn't default, since it's closed source
[05:47] <harisund> yeah .. not by default though ..
[05:47] <stian> (except for freenx, which sucked 6 months ago)
[05:47] <harisund> stian freenxis pretty awesome actually.
[05:47] <sproingie> travesty: as i understand it, the rails patch is a one-line fix, so you could just enter it yourself without having to reinstall it
[05:47] <monkey13> Thanks I'll give that a try
[05:48] <djk_> erUSUL: don't you think 6gb is a bit much?
[05:48] <harisund> stian ,for quite some time I have been trying to figure out the ways I can access a remote computer's GUI ... I wanted a fast and neat solution.. freenx was it .. I tried SSH- X forwards, XDMCP, various VNC servers....
[05:48] <stian> harisund, What I could do is try to enable vnc by hitting Alt + Ctrl F1 on the keyboard and blindly start something
[05:48] <weakwire> hi where i can find the source.list of ubuntu 6.06 cause i messed up.. :)
[05:48] <harisund> stian: the problem with VNC it is needs a GUI running on the remote machine.
[05:48] <sproingie> weakwire: /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:48] <fyrestrtr> !easysource > weakwire
[05:48] <harisund> Otherwise it will have no X to connect to .
[05:48] <sproingie> weakwire: oh you need a new one
[05:48] <stian> harisund, the desktop installer has X
[05:48] <weakwire> yes :)
[05:48] <fyrestrtr> !easysource
[05:48] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:49] <erUSUL> djk_: not in 115 Gb; also %5 of the sapace is reserved for root in every fs
[05:49] <harisund> monkey13: make sure the remote machine has an ssh server with x forwarding enabled.
[05:49] <stian> harisund, so I need to enable vnc by blindly entering something in the shell
[05:49] <sproingie> sourceomatic is nice
[05:49] <Rudy507> anyone know how to get xsane open when I'm trying to send a fax? It's complaining that no supported device is connected
[05:49] <weakwire> ok i'll try out
[05:49] <weakwire> thanks
[05:49] <stian> harisund, if someone finds out what I need to enter to enable desktop sharing on the live cd I would be able to install over vnc
[05:49] <erUSUL> djk_: this is imortant in the root fs but in other fs you can disable it (in ext3)
[05:49] <harisund> stian: yeah but by blindly entering something I doubt if you would be able to correctly tell it what server to share (VNC) .. you will have to login to the gdm ..
[05:50] <stian> harisund, the desktop install cd automagically boots into a loggedin gnome session
[05:50] <harisund> stian ah .. you are right ..
[05:50] <scifi> hey guys, what was that other alternative good desktop wallpaper url to gnome-look.org ?
[05:50] <stian> harisund, yes :) which leads me to believe there is a way to install :] 
[05:51] <harisund> stian: good luck with that .... I sincerely doubt if you would be able to do that.. but if you could awsome
[05:51] <stian> harisund, this is something that is possible in knoppix  http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/Hd_Install_Without_a_Monitor_HowTo
[05:51] <fyrestrtr> scifi: deviantart.com ?
[05:51] <scifi> fyrestrtr: thats the 1, ty :)
[05:52] <stian> harisund, thanks, it's a 2,4ghz server so I'll keep trying
[05:52] <spegel> Can I disable that alt+rightclick makes the menu come up, even in fullscreen mode?
[05:52] <Linuturk_code> !6.06.1
[05:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about 6.06.1 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:53] <kaffien> how do i upgrade  ubuntu versions?
[05:53] <Linuturk_code> I installed 6.06. Does the update manager handle the updates to 6.06.1 ?
[05:53] <Linuturk_code> ;p
[05:53] <zsh> how do i configure bittorrent to use a specific port in ubuntu?
[05:53] <harisund> stian: I know the default VNC server is called 'vino' so perhaps some manual pages might have something
[05:53] <herbal> hey can someone tell me command to mount a .dmg image?
[05:54] <stian> harisund, thanks
[05:54] <fyrestrtr> zsh: two options, 1. run it from the command line 2. edit the menu link for it
[05:54] <stian> harisund, i'll boot it up in vmware and play
[05:54] <zsh> ok. 2 sounds better
[05:54] <zsh> fyrestrtr, what should i change
[05:55] <fyrestrtr> zsh: hrmm, let me look it up, just a sec.
[05:55] <herbal> guys how can i mount this .dmg or somehow can i just browse inside the image?
[05:55] <zsh> fyrestrtr, ok
[05:56] <stian> harisund, lol, turns out there's more trouble, I can only boot from floppy :P
[05:56] <harisund> whoa?
[05:56] <stian> yeah, since I can't access the bios and change the bootorder
[05:56] <stian> my mate _just_ told me
[05:56] <fyrestrtr> --max-port and --min-port
[05:56] <harisund> uh oh .. that's sad..
[05:57] <Linuturk_code> stian, is it a desktop or laptop?
[05:57] <stian> Linuturk_code, it's a server
[05:57] <Linuturk_code> stian, if it's a desktop there is usually a jumper on the motherboard to clear out the bios password
[05:57] <Linuturk_code> stian, so you would be able to change the boot order
[05:57] <IAskew> bios passwords from vendors are on the net if it helps
[05:58] <stian> Linuturk_code, the trouble is that I don't have the ability to connect a monitor, the gpu (or something) is blown and no addidives accepted atm
[05:58] <Bob535> !remote
[05:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about remote - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:58] <zsh> fyrestrtr, ok thanks
[05:58] <spegel> How do I run irssi?
[05:58] <harisund> Bob535: what were you hoping for?
[05:58] <Linuturk_code> stian, slap in a generic graphic card then
[05:58] <harisund> spegel: just start it from the command line?
[05:58] <stian> will ubuntu go mad if I install ubuntu-server on the disk on another machine, and then put it into the server
[05:58] <javiolo> spegel just type irssi
[05:58] <spegel> oh
[05:58] <spegel> nice :)
[05:59] <stian> Linuturk_code, ah yes, however for some reason those generic cards we have right here are not compatible with the pci64bit thing
[05:59] <stian> (this is according to my friend, since I have no hardware skills whatsoever :P)
[05:59] <stian> but jamming a videocard in where it doesn't fit just won't work
[05:59] <Linuturk_code> stian, well, install it on another machine, before booting into the system for the first time, switch out the harddrives
[06:00] <Linuturk_code> that might work
[06:00] <nilesh892003> how to uncompress .rar files in ubuntu dapper drake????????/
[06:00] <IAskew> unrar nilesh892003
[06:00] <erUSUL> nilesh892003: with unrar
[06:00] <nilesh892003> i know
[06:00] <erUSUL> !info unrar
[06:00] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (dapper), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB
[06:00] <IAskew> sudo apt-get install unrar
[06:00] <nilesh892003> how to install unrar
[06:01] <fyrestrtr> nilesh892003: enable multiverse, then sudo apt-get install unrar
[06:01] <JRlinux> Finding it tough to download the new Ubuntu.  Got 200 MB very slowly and then it stalled and quit...
[06:01] <nilesh892003> i tried that but it shows error
[06:01] <nilesh892003> how to enable multiverse
[06:01] <nilesh892003> ?
[06:01] <erUSUL> nilesh892003: if you knew it, why did you asked? why not ask in the first place how to install unrar?
[06:01] <sproingie> !multiverse
[06:01] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:01] <fyrestrtr> !repos > nilesh892003
[06:01] <herbal> can someone please tell me how to mount this .dmg i keep getting errors
[06:01] <IAskew> edit ur /etc/apt/sources.list nilesh892003
[06:01] <erUSUL> !sources > nilesh892003
[06:02] <nilesh892003> k
[06:02] <fyrestrtr> herbal: what errors?
[06:02] <sproingie> i wish synaptic had a bloody wizard to enable multiverse
[06:02] <cmvo> Hi! Is there any documentation on how the kernel drivers set the sata drives sequence?
[06:02] <libervisco> yo
[06:02] <herbal> just stupid ones because im not using the right command prolly
[06:02] <nilesh892003> how i have to add in new source list
[06:03] <fyrestrtr> herbal: read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[06:03] <herbal> kk ty
[06:03] <cmvo> What's sda in the installer, is not what the bios wants to boot from...
[06:03] <libervisco> a friend is tryinh to install the gtk-gnutella package and it gives him the error: dependency is not statisfiable: libgutls11
[06:03] <nilesh892003> hey friends plz help me with the installation of unrar in ubuntu
[06:04] <fyrestrtr> nilesh892003: read the wiki
[06:04] <cmvo> The problem can be solved by changing drive cables and sda to sdc in grub and fstab.
[06:04] <libervisco> I thought such things shouldn't happen in Ubuntu?
[06:04] <fyrestrtr> nilesh892003: read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[06:04] <spegel> Is there any good irc-client for linux? with a gui -_-
[06:04] <libervisco> "dependency is not statisfiable"
[06:04] <fyrestrtr> libervisco: you thought wrong :)
[06:04] <superjew9020> lol
[06:04] <cmvo> But I'd like to know if this can be avoided.
[06:05] <fyrestrtr> spegel: xchat
[06:05] <spegel> thanks
[06:05] <libervisco> hehe
[06:05] <libervisco> fyrestrtr, what's the deal then? :)
[06:05] <fyrestrtr> I don't know, might be a bad package. Did you try installing it with -f option?
[06:05] <Tamale> why doessssssssssssssssssssssss my keyboard input continuallyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy freak out (lag) and spam letters like crazy?
[06:05] <fyrestrtr> Tamale: bad repeat rate?
[06:05] <mariano> hola ke tal
[06:06] <vicscandl> Tamale: you running windows?
[06:06] <vinnybinny> hello everyone
[06:06] <Tamale> fyrestrtr: No, ubuntu dapper
[06:06] <mariano> hello
[06:06] <fyrestrtr> Tamale: too much coke being spilled into the keyboard.
[06:06] <libervisco> fyrestrtr, what's the equivalent of -f in synaptic?
[06:06] <mariano> somebody here speak spanish?
[06:06] <fyrestrtr> libervisco: good question, don't know.
[06:06] <libervisco> superjew9020, can you get to command line?
[06:06] <Tamale> fyrestrtr: It started doing this after my latest apt-get upgrade
[06:06] <fyrestrtr> !es
[06:06] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:06] <Jack_Sparrow> !es
[06:06] <IAskew> !es mariano
[06:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about es mariano - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:06] <nilesh892003> ok let me know which repository i have to add for unrar
[06:06] <vinnybinny> i have a simple newb question that i can't find a straight answer for
[06:06] <mariano> ok
[06:06] <IAskew> multiverse
[06:06] <fyrestrtr> nilesh892003: add both universe and multiverse
[06:06] <mariano> thx so much
[06:06] <libervisco> fyrestrtr, superjew9020 has the problem :)
[06:06] <nilesh892003> k
[06:06] <libervisco> fyrestrtr, he's new
[06:06] <superjew9020> yup
[06:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Tamale: IS it a standard keyboard and did it ever work or just "Suddenly" have a problem
[06:07] <herbal> fyrestrtr, thats to mount partitions i just need to temp mount this .dmg disc image so i can install something from it
[06:07] <Jack_Sparrow> herbal: What created that image..
[06:07] <Tamale> Jack_Sparrow: It's my laptop keyboard.  Has worked fine for over a month, but past couple days continually does this weird repeat  /  lag thing very, very, often
[06:07] <vinnybinny> i have a / partition and a /home parition  the root partition is almost full. i have a fresh partition waiting whats the easiest way to move my root onto the new partition?
[06:08] <Tamale> Jack_Sparrow: It makes it downright impossible to get anything done
[06:08] <herbal> i dont know what created it, ide assume something in mac
[06:08] <fyrestrtr> herbal: have you tried the disk manager?
[06:08] <bsdfox> vinnybinny, cp -rp /* /mnt/newspace
[06:08] <fyrestrtr> herbal: system > administration > disks?
[06:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Tamale: Can you plug in an extra keyboard to the lappy and see if the problem still exists
[06:08] <superjew9020> so fyrestrtr wat do i do
[06:08] <Tamale> i don't have any usb keyboards
[06:08] <Tamale> and my laptop doesn't have ps/2
[06:09] <Tamale> the keyboard works fine in windows
[06:09] <Tamale> (i dual boot)
[06:09] <fyrestrtr> superjew9020: sudo apt-get -f install gtk-gnutella
[06:09] <vinnybinny> bsdfox, that'll copy all the stuff i don't want on there are well correct? ie. /dev /proc /home
[06:09] <vinnybinny> as*
[06:09] <herbal> isnt there just some command i can use to mount it so i can browse inside it?
[06:09] <bsdfox> vinnybinny, yeah.. just do cp -rp /boot /bin /var /lib /usr .... /mnt/newspace
[06:09] <Tarandus> Hello... I fixed my dosemu problem by installing Debian testing's dosemu package with dpkg --force
[06:09] <bsdfox> then you need to run the bootloader tool
[06:09] <mrio> hey guys
[06:10] <superjew9020> it couldnt find the package
[06:10] <Tamale> Jack_Sparrow: It feels like my the OS is simply trying to do too many things at once... right before I get a zillion characters of the same type, the system freezes completely momentarily
[06:10] <herbal> i remember doing it like months ago when mounting my UT2k4.dmg but i can remember how i did it
[06:10] <bsdfox> Tamale, what's your load avg
[06:10] <herbal> *cant
[06:10] <vinnybinny> thanks bsdfox :)
[06:10] <Tarandus> Now if I try to install anything else the usual way, it stops at the forced dosemu package and complains about its missing dependencies (that include a Debian's libc6)
[06:10] <Tamale> Jack_Sparrow: Also, interestingly, using synergy to control the input never has any problems
[06:10] <bigmarCus> Is it easy for a newbie to configure XGL?
[06:10] <Tamale> bsdfox: 5%
[06:11] <fyrestrtr> herbal: sudo mount -t auto -o loop foo.dmg /some/where
[06:11] <fyrestrtr> herbal: try that
[06:11] <Jack_Sparrow> herbal: THat looks like a MAC only image but can be converted to the standard iso in mac...   http://forums.macosxhints.com/showthread.php?t=21876
[06:11] <Tarandus> How could I make it accept the forced dosemu package and not care about it?
[06:11] <fyrestrtr> bigbill52a: depends on much of a newbie you are.
[06:11] <superjew9020> fyrestrtr it couldnt find the package
[06:11] <herbal> kk cool lets see
[06:11] <fyrestrtr> superjew9020: enable universe and multiverse
[06:12] <bsdfox> Tamale, 5.00 or 0.05
[06:12] <Tamale> bsdfox:  0.05.  hardly any load.
[06:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Tamale: And you didnt upgrade or install anything and you were not using sudo to do any tuning?
[06:12] <fyrestrtr> I <3 svn
[06:12] <Tamale> Jack_Sparrow: I noticed the problem "came about suddenly" one day after booting up after a full apt-get upgrade
[06:12] <herbal> so the ideal place to mount it would be /mount so how do i make a new dir inside /mont for it?
[06:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Tamale: What about the livecd, does that have the problem?
[06:12] <Tamale> Jack_Sparrow:  I have no idea what packages were upgraded that day.
[06:13] <Tamale> Jack_Sparrow: I haven't tried that yet, but I don't have  live cd with me
[06:13] <fyrestrtr> herbal: no, don't mount it in /mount
[06:13] <Tamale> Jack_Sparrow: I assume it would work fine, just like ubuntu did for over a month
[06:13] <Cytomax> how do i check my wifi driver version in 6.06?
[06:13] <herbal> where should i mount it?
[06:13] <fyrestrtr> herbal: mkdir ~/dmg-disk sudo mount -t auto -o loop foo.dmg /home/yourusername/dmg-disk
[06:13] <superjew9020> how do i do that
[06:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Tamale: Can I also assume you have no backups of your Ubuntu system?
[06:13] <herbal> kk
[06:14] <Tamale> Jack_Sparrow: No, I don't know how to backup properly yet.
[06:14] <marvel> any help, getting PS printer error from lpr -Pprinter filename; printer works from other ubuntu's, same printcap
[06:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Tamale: It is ONE line in a terminal
[06:14] <fyrestrtr> herbal: mkdir ~/dmg-dsk && sudo mount -t auto -o loop foo.dmg /home/yourusername/dmg-disk
[06:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !backup
[06:14] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[06:14] <erUSUL> Cytomax: there is no standar way of doing it. some drivers print their version to logs. try 'dmesg'
[06:14] <fyrestrtr> !repos > superjew9020
[06:14] <mariano> #ubuntu-es
[06:14] <superjew9020> ????????
[06:14] <Cytomax> thank you erusul... ill try that
[06:14] <Cytomax> brb
[06:14] <fyrestrtr> !repos
[06:14] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:14] <seadog> iwconfig -v
[06:15] <IAskew> !easysource
[06:15] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:15] <vinnybinny> bsdfox, that won't change any permissions or links?
[06:15] <herbal> that did work it gave me mount options
[06:15] <superjew9020> just type it in the terminal?
[06:15] <Tamale> Jack_Sparrow: Well, it's too late now.. i don't want to back it up like this.. it's pretty much unusable unless i can get on another computer on the same network and use synergy
[06:15] <seadog> yes
[06:15] <marvel> help, getting PS printer error from lpr -Pprinter filename; printer works from other ubuntu's, same printcap
[06:15] <fyrestrtr> herbal: conver it to an iso image
[06:16] <afranke> hey all
[06:16] <bsdfox> vinnybinny, cp -p preserves permissions
[06:16] <Wermut> Can anybody recommend a tool for archiving web pages (for offline viewing) ?
[06:16] <erUSUL> Wermut: wget, htttrack
[06:16] <vinnybinny> bsdfox, cool again thanks for your time
[06:17] <fyrestrtr> herbal: try this
[06:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Tamale: It is a good idea to backup before a full upgrade
[06:17] <superjew9020> where do i type in !repose
[06:17] <fyrestrtr> mount -t hfs -o loop foo.dmg /home/yourusername/dmg-disk
[06:17] <foufou> how to password protect tarred archives
[06:17] <Tamale> Jack_Sparrow: I've probably done 20 full upgrades in the past few weeks!
[06:18] <erUSUL> foufou: you can us gpg
[06:18] <erUSUL> use*
[06:18] <Wermut> eruSUL: Does httrack support archiving a web page into a single file (wget does not provide this iirc) ?
[06:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Tamale: And if you had done even one backup you would have a working system right now
[06:18] <Tamale> Jack_Sparrow: And at this point, berating me for my amatureness isn't helping either.. I just want to know how I can troubleshoot this keyboard problems
[06:18] <herbal> says wrong fs type
[06:18] <superjew9020> fyrestrtr?
[06:18] <erUSUL> Wermut: i do not know sorry.
[06:19] <fyrestrtr> superjew9020: go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and enable universe and multiverse
[06:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Tamale:  fyrestrtr might have an idea...
[06:19] <scifi> can anyone recommend a desktop image for me, im sick of trawling through pages and pages of images :P
[06:19] <vicscandl> scifi: goatse ;)
[06:19] <Cytomax> erUSUL: I have a Netgear WG511T (Atheros Chipset) when i type dmesg i see lots of stuff.. i scroll down and see a few ath0:.... i see one that says ath_pci: 0.9.6.0 (EXPERIMENTAL)... is that it?
[06:19] <Tamale> aight..
[06:19] <scifi> i'd like something slick and simple
[06:19] <mads_peder> i need to kind of delete my windows partition , its fat32. i run qtparted , but it says none found am i root . i am newbie to this , so please explain what i can do to get the windows part formated and accessable .
[06:19] <Jack_Sparrow> scifi: gnome-look.org is where I go
[06:19] <marvel> Can anybody help, getting PS printer error from lpr -Pprinter filename; lpr: error - unable to print file: client-error-not-found
[06:20] <herbal> hmmm maybe ill just try some program like asmounter or something
[06:20] <seadog> dsl
[06:20] <Tamale> fyrestrtr: Did you type an idea out already and I just missed it?
[06:20] <seadog> oh as in background image
[06:20] <fyrestrtr> herbal: if its a newer image, then you need hfs+ support, which I don't think is available in dapper.
[06:20] <scifi> Jack_Sparrow: yeh thats where ive been looking, but cant quite find nething that grabs me
[06:20] <erUSUL> Cytomax: yes it could be that
[06:20] <fyrestrtr> Tamale: I suggested a repeat rate check.
[06:20] <scifi> vicscandl: whats goatse ?
[06:20] <fyrestrtr> scifi: don't go there.
[06:20] <Jack_Sparrow> scifi: IT is such a personal thing...  No one can tell you what you like
[06:21] <Tamale> fyrestrtr: I set them both as high as they would go and the problem still persisted.. just less repeats./
[06:21] <vicscandl> scifi: you don't want to know
[06:21] <fyrestrtr> Tamale: hrmm, I don't know -- its truly strange that after an update this would happen.
[06:21] <Valery> hellow
[06:21] <scifi> Jack_Sparrow: its true, but im so indecisive :P
[06:21] <bur[n] er> anyone use wine?  I'm curious if it's possible to make the "wine system tray" actually show up in the notification area
[06:22] <Cytomax> erUSUL: Thank you
[06:22] <afranke> I have a problem but I'm not if this should filed as a bug so I'd like some advice first
[06:22] <afranke> due to the dapper-updates repository, my totem and totem-gstreamer version is now 1.4.3
[06:22] <afranke> there's a conflict with totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugins which absolutely wants 1.4.1
[06:22] <vicscandl> scifi: if you do, wikipedia it (sorry about way-off-topic)
[06:22] <Jack_Sparrow> scifi: yes you are, no you're not yes you are, no you're not yes you are, no you're not yes you are, no you're not
[06:22] <bigmarCus> Is there a sys info script for xchat that is collorful?
[06:22] <vicscandl> i just could not resist.
[06:22] <erUSUL> Cytomax: no problem
[06:22] <Valery> What detect new hardware in Dapper?
[06:22] <scifi> Jack_Sparrow: LOL
[06:22] <Tamale> fyrestrtr: Granted, I don't really think it's the update that did it
[06:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry
[06:22] <mads_peder> i am using aprox 20 gb on this ubuntu part, and i would really like to get the last 60 gb i used  to use for my win available here
[06:22] <bur[n] er> totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugins doesn't really work anyway
[06:22] <erUSUL> Valery: the kernel and hald
[06:22] <Tamale> fyrestrtr: I'm just saying that I never once had the problem until one daaaaaaaaaaay
[06:22] <Tamale> arg
[06:22] <fyrestrtr> lol
[06:23] <afranke> bur[n] er: I remember I saw it working
[06:23] <bur[n] er> afranke: u could use mozilla-mplayer in the meantime I'm thinking... i can't get either one to work these days though... might be my use of XGL though
[06:23] <Tamale> it really sucks 'cause i have a lot of keyboard shortcuts for things, like Alt-F1 bringing up a terminal.  if it happens to freak out right then, the comp will get in a vicious cycle of trying to load up more and more terminals, which stresses the cpu even more, which makes it freak out even more, etc
[06:24] <mads_peder> can i just run the desktop install cd maybe and change size of partiton there ?
[06:24] <Tamale> also, my "modifier" keeeeeeeeeeys like alt, ctrl, and supeeeeeer will periodically get stuck on
[06:25] <Tamale> whiccccccccccccch of course really screws things up
[06:25] <afranke> bur[n] er: ya but since all my videos work with totem, I didn't want to have yet another video player installed
[06:25] <erUSUL> mads_peder: use gparted from a livecd. Make backups as dealing with disk and part is always risky business
[06:25] <Jack_Sparrow> mads_peder: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ has some good tools you can try
[06:25] <afranke> otherwise I would have also considered VLC
[06:25] <seadog> does anyone know how to get the extra buttons for a toshiba laptop to work under linux?
[06:25] <bigmarCus> For Xchat is there a sysinfo script available?
[06:26] <IAskew> bigmarCus, xchat.org has many scripts
[06:26] <scrappy_> seadog: maybe as easy as apt-cache search toshiba    and see what package you need
[06:26] <ag[1] > hi
[06:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Please people... when you get your system the way you want it, back it up...
[06:27] <bigmarCus> IAskew thanks
[06:27] <seadog> oh ok i'll try it
[06:27] <JackONeill> Can I change the Gnome Main Menu button back to the normal foot icon?
[06:27] <Tamale> seadog:  My laptop is a toshiba.. what buttons were you hoping to get to work?
[06:27] <mads_peder> i have ult boot disk, just it would be nice if i could access the partition from here as a root and then like fomat the win part and free upp the space. . ok i try first the live cd , and then if it doesnt play i may check the ult boot. otherwise i just do the istall of this for the 7th time , but hey whos counting . brb hopefully
[06:27] <regeya> Seconding the captain Jack_Sparrow's call for backing up
[06:27] <seadog> the media buttons and the mouse pad extras
[06:27] <regeya> I'll also add:  Back up /home on a regular basis
[06:27] <IAskew> bigmarCus, http://xchat.org/cgi-bin/search.pl?str=system+info&cat=0&Submit=Search
[06:27] <Tamale> seadog:  The media buttons don't create x events at all, so I'm not sure they'll be usable
[06:28] <regeya> might not hurt to put /etc under revision control, if your sanity can handle it
[06:28] <seadog> oh ok thnx
[06:28] <superjew9020> fyrestrtr multiverse and universe are now enabled
[06:28] <fyrestrtr> superjew9020: now install it
[06:28] <Tamale> seadog: I think they were hardcoded to work with windows media player
[06:28] <afranke> JackONeill: something like http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26854 ?
[06:28] <ag[1] > I just installed ubuntu server and im trying to login into root so i can change the password but there didn't seem to be a prompt during install that asked for root password, what should i do now?
[06:28] <fyrestrtr> !root > ag[1] 
[06:28] <fyrestrtr> !root
[06:28] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:28] <superjew9020> thanks a lot :-D
[06:29] <remnant> hi, would someone happen to be able to give me some pointers as to how I can setup mysql on ubuntu?  I installed mysql-admin but I don't yet know how to login to administer it
[06:29] <fyrestrtr> remnant: sudo apt-get install mysql-server mysql-client
[06:29] <Wermut> seadog: What is your problem?
[06:29] <seadog> Tamale: thnx
[06:29] <fyrestrtr> remnant: mysql-admin is not the server, just a front end to administer other servers.
[06:29] <Tamale> remnant:  I just set it up recently myself too.. try to read up on phpmyadmin.. it can make mysql work much, much easier  :)
[06:30] <Tamale> seadog: NP
[06:30] <Tamale> seadog: I wanted to make them work with XMMS myself, so I already looked into it a tad :] 
[06:30] <seadog>  Wermul: i just wanted to know if there's a way to get the extra buttons for my tosiba to work in linux
[06:30] <Tuxar> Is there others rooms in ubuntu servers ?
[06:30] <remnant> fyrestrtr: yes, I installed phpmyadmin too, but is there a default user and password?
[06:30] <Wermut> Did you find a way?
[06:30] <seadog> no...not yet
[06:30] <mopflite> !hair
[06:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about hair - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:30] <odat> anyone have an open source oriented website?
[06:31] <Tamale> remnant: did you follow the ubuntu guide for installing mysql?  It has the steps to take to set up the root account
[06:31] <NthDegree> odat, sourceforge.net is open-source orientated if that's what you mean
[06:31] <IAskew> THIEF!
[06:31] <mwe> remnant: root, no pass is default in mysql
[06:31] <Tamale> my kids gotta eat
[06:31] <IAskew> ur forgiven then
[06:32] <remnant> Tamale: I will look it right now, I was browsing the site with none yet luck
[06:32] <Wermut> seadog: Can you get the keycodes via xev?
[06:32] <seadog> ?
[06:32] <remnant> Tamale: thanks I will look at it right now
[06:32] <remnant> mwe: : thanks I will look at it right now
[06:32] <mwe> remnant: set a pass though
[06:32] <remnant> mwe: yes, of course
[06:33] <Wermut> seadog: Open a terminal and type xev[RETURN] .
[06:33] <airwind> Hello, I've just installed Ubuntu 6.06 now. But, it boots up really slow, and also slow in starting applications.
[06:33] <Tamale> So absolutely no one here has any ideas of other things I can try to fix my laggy keyboard?
[06:33] <airwind> I see that it starts up lots of services in the begining.
[06:33] <Tamale> airwind: CPU?  Ram?
[06:33] <airwind> how do I speed it (booting and application response)?
[06:34] <Baltazar^2> (18:19:42) (Baltazar^2) I have STLAB Sil 0680 raid controller - ATA
[06:34] <Baltazar^2> (18:20:48) (Baltazar^2) I create using this controller raid 1 filed with 2 hdd's. Linux somehow does not recognize these settings by the controller - all data is written only on one hdd
[06:34] <dell500> i've been trying to make my USB-SATA drive partition, but for some reason it won't, it's a 300gb seagate
[06:34] <Tha1> hey
[06:34] <airwind> Configuration: 1Ghz, P-3, 128MB SDRAM
[06:34] <neutrinomass> Tamale: File a bug report....
[06:35] <seadog> alot of crap printed out but nothing happened when i pushed the buttons
[06:35] <airwind> Hello, anyone pls help....
[06:35] <Baltazar^2> Anyone here with RAID, software or hardware ?
[06:36] <scifi> airwind: stick another stick of 128meg ram in
[06:36] <erUSUL> !raid
[06:36] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[06:36] <Wermut> seadog: Make sure the xev window has focus, i.e. move the mouse over it and click. Then don't touch the mouse any more or it will produce lots of irrelevant messages. Press the desired key and it will show the keycode.
[06:36] <JackONeill> Can I change the Gnome Main Menu button back to the normal foot icon?
[06:36] <Baltazar^2> !raid
[06:36] <airwind> Any possibilities to increase speed / performance without additional hardware?
[06:36] <airwind> I have WinXP on the same machine, and it works fine.
[06:37] <Baltazar^2> ubotu: tnx
[06:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about tnx - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:37] <Baltazar^2> damn
[06:37] <Baltazar^2> :)
[06:37] <seadog> it has focus but nothing happens when keys are pressed
[06:37] <erUSUL> Baltazar^2: yes it is a bot
[06:39] <Ackeubu_> !kernel-updates
[06:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about kernel-updates - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:39] <Ackeubu_> !kernel-update
[06:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about kernel-update - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:39] <neutrinomass> airwind: Is DMA enabled? ( sudo hdparm /dev/hda if you have an IDE hard disk )
[06:39] <Ackeubu_> !kernel
[06:39] <pushpop> How do you install script in Xchat?
[06:39] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[06:39] <neutrinomass> airwind: Further, do you have a swap partition?
[06:39] <ken_> help with the sound card
[06:39] <Wermut> seadog: It does not print anything in the console window? Then you are unlucky, but not lost :) Open the file /var/log/messages and search for a line "atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed ...".
[06:39] <JackONeill> Can I change the Gnome Main Menu button back to the normal foot icon?
[06:39] <ken_> my card doesn't work
[06:40] <dell500> does anyone here know how to create a partition onto a 300gb usb?
[06:40] <seadog> ok
[06:41] <mopflite> JackONeill: almost certainly, yes - you may need to spend some time browsing the documentation section of the gnome web site to work out how, though
[06:41] <ZeiP> I'm running Ubuntu installation with a pressed CD, version 5.10. The Live-CD boots and works just fine, but when trying the installation disc, it seems to end up jamming on a blank screen. When giving boot options to select Finnish keymap and disabling frame buffer, it jams after saying "SET debian-installer/keymap fi". Can someone guide me to the right direction on how to get the installation properly started?
[06:41] <scrappy_> dell500: sudo cfdisk /dev/sda  ?
[06:42] <mopflite> 5.10 didn't have a live cd did it?
[06:42] <Baltazar^2> dell500: parted
[06:42] <ZeiP> (It doesn't jam, the kb works fine, but it doesn't do anything).
[06:42] <T`ch> Zedd, why not try latest?
[06:42] <T`ch> ZeiP, i mean
[06:42] <dcnstrct> guys, the other day I was having an issue with bad ram that was making programs segfault right and left.  I replaced all the ram.. now all my apps work even the big ones EXCEPT for the apt-get suite.  They all still segfault.  I don't think this can be a hardware problem, can anyone help or give me ideas ? thanks
[06:42] <ZeiP> T`ch, only have the 5.10 CD:s with me :)
[06:43] <T`ch> ZeiP, try text install instead of X
[06:43] <ZeiP> How?
[06:43] <T`ch> may be its your graphic card or something
[06:43] <T`ch> when you boot thru the CD, i think you just type "text" and enter
[06:43] <dcnstrct> dcnstrct@dragoon:~$ sudo apt-cache search foo
[06:43] <dcnstrct> Password:
[06:43] <dcnstrct> Segmentation fault
[06:43] <ZeiP> Ok, Ill try that. Thanks.
[06:43] <T`ch> try it.. i'm sure there are instructions on the bootscreen too
[06:43] <frankiv> i had a lovely problem trying to install dapper server --- the install CD would boot to the region questions, but then couldn't find the install media --- for some reason it couldn't read the cd from the installer
[06:43] <ZeiP> T`ch, "Could not find kernel image: text"
[06:44] <mopflite> I had to use the alternate 6.06 cd to install dapper on this machine - the live desktop cd kept hanging when I tried to install from it, albeit the live cd functionality itself worked fine
[06:44] <T`ch> ZeiP, does it say anything about text on the screen?
[06:44] <neutrinomass> dcnstrct: With dapper ?
[06:44] <seadog> no nothing
[06:44] <dcnstrct> neutrinomass, yes
[06:44] <ZeiP> T`ch, no, I'd have tried it already if I'd noticed that :)
[06:44] <Dimensions> hi i have few computers when i install ubuntu alternate cd on them they get installed with low vga options but they dont run after installation is complete and system reboots ... is there any lighter version of any linux OS in debian based which would work and support usb port and internet connectivity ... in other words complete system but lighter even if its without GUI or less GUI as i dont need GUI
[06:44] <IAskew> dcnstrct, what if try using synaptic/adept/aptitude?
[06:44] <frankiv> so i used knoppix livecd to bootstrap an install
[06:44] <Wermut> seadog: There should be a line saying "Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known." (Do you happen to speak German by the way?)
[06:44] <dcnstrct> IAskew, synaptic tries to open then crashes
[06:44] <neutrinomass> dcnstrct: Plesae follow http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash please to produce a backtrace, and pastebin it
[06:44] <IAskew> bummer
[06:44] <mopflite> Dimensions: have you tried xubuntu?
[06:45] <dcnstrct> neutrinomass, ok
[06:45] <frankiv> Now the system is up and running, but i am having a hard time getting anything to install under cpan. i worry i dont' have the right dev tools installed or something. Make always fails under cpan.
[06:45] <seadog> no i don't but didn't see any type line
[06:45] <T`ch> ZeiP, try "vmlinuz text"
[06:45] <w3bmast3r101> does any one know of a way to setup a local update repository
[06:45] <ZeiP> Could not find kernel image: vmlinuz
[06:45] <mopflite> frankiv: sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[06:45] <T`ch> ZeiP, linux text
[06:46] <mopflite> frankiv: sudo apt-get install build-essential even
[06:46] <T`ch> ZeiP, hehe sorry.. i dont know exactly so just guessing possibilities.. i'm googling atm
[06:46] <ZeiP> Yeps :)
[06:46] <Dimensions> mopflite:  no i have not but i use ubuntu dapper drake and breezy
[06:46] <T`ch> ZeiP, works?
[06:46] <ZeiP> It started booting but is now on blank screen. I don't think it's coming up with anything...
[06:46] <Centaur5> I'm trying to print to a shared printer on windows and Dapper says Status: Ready /usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed. What can I do?
[06:46] <T`ch> ZeiP, oh.. so same prob as before?
[06:46] <seadog> Wermul: i wish i could speak lots of languages
[06:46] <ZeiP> Yes
[06:47] <frankiv> mopflite: is that going to install x-windows stuff? this is just a lamp server
[06:47] <dell500> !usb
[06:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about usb - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:47] <dcnstrct> neutrinomass, those instructions require for me to use apt-get
[06:47] <T`ch> ZeiP, ok i need more detials.. where exactly does it fail.. and what does it say before the keymap seting
[06:47] <dcnstrct> neutrinomass, if I use apt-get at all it segfaults
[06:47] <Dimensions> mopflite:  is it lighter than ubuntu ? i tried ubuntu server even but didn't work for me
[06:47] <mopflite> frankiv: no, it installs tools required to build packages from source, as takes place when installing perl modules using cpan
[06:48] <mopflite> Dimensions: it's lighter than standard desktop ubuntu, but not lighter than ubuntu server
[06:48] <mopflite> !xubuntu
[06:48] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[06:48] <Tha1> hi just 1 question
[06:49] <Tha1> i can't succesfully install ubuntu
[06:49] <ZeiP> T`ch, there are two possibilities on the startup: without the framebuffer disabling it ends up on blank screen (which is not on standby). With kernel option removing the frame buffer _and_ another changing the keymap to Finnish it ends up with two lines on the bottom of the screen  the keymap line mentioned before and another one, which I'm currently trying to get.
[06:49] <ZeiP> T`ch, it reboots normally with ctrl+alt+del, so it's not totally stuck.
[06:49] <mopflite> frankiv: I use cpan too to track spamassassin and keep up to date - the spamassassin version packaged with dapper is 10 months old, and spamassassin is one up that needs to be constantly updated if it is to be effective
[06:50] <mopflite> s/up/app
[06:50] <Tha1> he crashes when I try to do it, but  it's randomly
[06:50] <neutrinomass> dcnstrct: Hm... I'm not sure how it can be done in a simple manner.... try filing a bug report ...
[06:50] <frankiv> thanks for the info, i'll try it right away
[06:50] <ZeiP> T`ch, works now, using "linux text debian-installer/framebuffer=false"
[06:51] <seadog> Tha1: how much ram
[06:51] <neutrinomass> dcnstrct: The tough way would be to use aptitude to install all the build deps, then grap the source from packages.ubuntu.com and rebuild the package manually with debug options enabled....
[06:51] <dcnstrct> neutrinomass, I think I just need to reinstall the apt system
[06:51] <Tha1> 512mb
[06:51] <T`ch> ZeiP, ooh weird.. hehe anyway cool
[06:52] <dcnstrct> the apt-system is what is segfaulting... it needs to be replaced completely
[06:52] <Dimensions> mopflite:  which one is the lightest version as compared to any other debian system or ubuntu ... ? which could give all of the support just like ubuntu / debians
[06:52] <dcnstrct> any ideas on how to do that ?
[06:52] <neutrinomass> dcnstrct: Maybe that fixes it as well..... but if it doesn't and if this isn't already a known issue it will be tough to debug ...
[06:52] <Wermut> seadog: I opened a query with you.
[06:52] <T`ch> ZeiP, do a apt-get update dist-upgrade after installing to get to Dapper ;)
[06:52] <neutrinomass> dcnstrct: does aptitude segfault as well ?
[06:52] <seadog> ya did?
[06:52] <dcnstrct> neutrinomass, YES
[06:52] <Tha1> i've tried with previous versions but without success
[06:52] <mopflite> Dimensions: xubuntu is the lightest "packaged ready to go" desktop version
[06:53] <dcnstrct> dcnstrct@dragoon:~$ aptitude
[06:53] <dcnstrct> Ouch!  Got SIGSEGV, dying..
[06:53] <dcnstrct> Segmentation fault
[06:53] <Tha1> if it mathers is a sempron 2400+
[06:53] <neutrinomass> dcnstrct: Ouch indeed..... let me think ...
[06:53] <cmvo> Is there a way to keep device names from changing when adding an additional sata drive?
[06:53] <mopflite> !aptitude > mopflite
[06:54] <cica> hi guys!
[06:54] <seadog> a query?
[06:54] <dcnstrct> neutrinomass, I need to find a way to completely reinstall the apt suite.  I'll look around for help on the net, if I can't figure it out after a while Ill just reinstall the OS.
[06:54] <dcnstrct> thanks for your help
[06:54] <linux_manju> Hi all.. I am planning for an installation of squid box.. Its been running debain sarge 3.1 with rieserfs as the file system.. Just to check up.. What file systems would you pleople have gone for the /cache parttion..?
[06:54] <neutrinomass> dcnstrct: dpkg ?!
[06:54] <cica> has anyone got any experience in using Cisco VPN with Ubuntu?
[06:54] <T`ch> cica, i use it
[06:55] <linux_manju> cica: ask the question
[06:55] <T`ch> cica, i use vpnc though ... its an open source client for cisco VPN.. works pretty good
[06:55] <linux_manju> cica: With open swan
[06:55] <FlimFlamMan__> anyone know which package contains the HEAD command?
[06:55] <dcnstrct> neutrinomass, yeah thats what I'll try.
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[06:55] <neutrinomass> FlimFlamMan__: 'coreutils'
[06:55] <Wermut> seadog: There should be a seperate window or something similar.
[06:55] <T`ch> FliesLikeABrick, http://packages.ubuntu.com
[06:55] <Baltazar^2> !postfix
[06:55] <FlimFlamMan__> neutrinomass: thanks
[06:55] <ubotu> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Postfix or here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[06:56] <patrick_king> hey all
[06:56] <linux_manju> FlimFlamMan__: I know openswan. and its working perfectly.. whats the problem you are facing?
[06:56] <Baltazar^2> !vmware
[06:56] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[06:56] <cica> linux_manju: what u mean with open swan?
[06:56] <airwind> neutrinomass: I tried out your command, it says that DMA is off.
[06:56] <cica> linux_manju: and ask the question ??
[06:56] <FlimFlamMan__> neutrinomass: actually i mean HEAD not head
[06:56] <seadog> i just opened one
[06:56] <airwind> Now, that probably is the reason why my system is slow.
[06:57] <airwind> How do I enable DMA?
[06:57] <neutrinomass> dcnstrct: If that fails as well, then probably the easiest way to fix it is a reinstall. An ugly hack (which of course I have never tried and cannot even be sure that it will work) is to grab the apt library manually and unpack it (.deb's are actually compressed archives) and copy everything to the correct location. This might damage your system further though...
[06:57] <neutrinomass> !dma
[06:57] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hard disks run faster,  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[06:57] <linux_manju> cica: well there is a confusion here i guess.. Well i was talking about.. openswan/linux box at the one end.. and Cisco router at the other end.. site to site tunnel
[06:57] <neutrinomass> airwind: If you find that you can't enable it, file a bug against linux-source-2.6.15 (if you're on dapper, that is )
[06:57] <teicah> !lotto_numbers > teicah
[06:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about lotto_numbers  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:57] <Djainette> hi Everybody. Can anyone help me with my iso ? Is it possible, like with .nrg files, to bypass to 4Go filesize limit of FAT32 by creating 2 parts ?
[06:57] <zoomy> Can anyone tell me if apt supports application groupings like yum??
[06:57] <cica> linux_manju: ohh I see
[06:57] <IAskew> sudo apt-get convert windows-knowledge > linux-knowledge
[06:57] <neutrinomass> FlimFlamMan__: HEAD is not really a command.... it could be an HTTP request and it could be a CVS branch - where did you see it referenced as a command ?
[06:57] <teicah> !lotto_numbers > teicah
[06:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about lotto_numbers  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:58] <dcnstrct> neutrinomass, to tell you the truth this is a rather new system anyway so it's not a big deal for me to trash it and reinstall.  The ubuntu install went so smoothly last time it shouldn't be a big deal.  I'll just get my backup on.  Thanks for your assisstance with this.
[06:58] <airwind> Thanks!
[06:58] <airwind> I shall try this out.
[06:58] <cica> T`ch & linux_manju: I was just wondering do you have it set to automatically start from boot?
[06:58] <neutrinomass> dcnstrct: If it's a new system, reinstall. It will be over in half an hour and is guaranteed to work :-) Good luck ...
[06:58] <IAskew> !kissing you ass but I'd like to give you a wet sloppy kiss
[06:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about kissing you ass but I'd like to give you a wet sloppy kiss - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:59] <moparfan90> hello. i am having problems installing ubuntu on my PC with a ati X800gto video card. is there a way i can edit the drivers that the live CD is using? to the newest ones
[06:59] <neutrinomass> IAskew: Please stop.
[06:59] <IAskew> k
[06:59] <IAskew> lol
[06:59] <T`ch> cica, you can pu it into rc.d or something
[06:59] <T`ch> cica, look in /etc/rc.d/
[06:59] <cica> T`ch: how to you start your's up. (VPN)?
[06:59] <T`ch> cica, i just use vpnc-connect and vpnc-disconnect
[07:00] <seadog>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[07:00] <elmargol_> Hi I did a fresh install of ubuntu-server 6.06.1 on an via epia board. I can't boot the installed kernel :(
[07:00] <IAskew> huh
[07:00] <moparfan90> what is the alternative install cd?
[07:00] <elmargol_> The system hangs at unpacking kernel modules
[07:00] <zoomy> If I want to install Gnome what package I'm a suppose to use apt-get gnome-app-install???
[07:01] <IAskew> zoomy?
[07:01] <elmargol_> zoomy: gnome-desktop-environment
[07:01] <Tomo666> hi, just wondered if anyone could help. i have installed ubuntu my other computer, i use it to host a teamspeak server for my friends. my problem is  the power just keeps going off, i dont think its shutting down. i dont know if its hardware or a software problem. it wont turn back on until i switch the other switch on the back on and off and the funny thing is the num lock light on my keyboard doesnt go out. thx for any help
[07:01] <cica> T`ch: or ./] vpnclient connect...
[07:01] <zoomy> that will install XORG dependencies as well?
[07:01] <pushpop> How do I install a GDM Theme in Ubuntu?
[07:01] <alienseer23> how do I show all of the programs I have installed that don't have menu shortcuts?
[07:02] <Wermut> seadog: Still there? Sorry, try http://de.gentoo-wiki.com/Multimediatasten#Keycode_herausfinden
[07:02] <gimmulf> Where can i find more nice backgrounds for gnome?
[07:02] <odat> moparfan90, that is a text based installer
[07:02] <Tarandus> How are dpkg-buildpackage and debuild differen?
[07:02] <zoomy> elmergol: How did you find that application grouping?  apt-cache?
[07:02] <moparfan90> oo
[07:02] <moparfan90> ok
[07:02] <seadog> ok Wermut
[07:02] <IAskew> gimmulf, gnome-look.org
[07:02] <gimmulf> thanks IAskew
[07:02] <mopflite> gimmulf: quite a few come with ubuntu, or try the gnome web site
[07:02] <neutrinomass> Tomo666: Does keeping the power button pressed for 4-5 seconds not help either ?
[07:02] <IAskew> yvw
[07:02] <Tamale> You know, there really should be a button in the background switcher program that links to gnome-look.. I've seen that question a zillion times in here....
[07:02] <Wermut> seadog: Wait a second...
[07:03] <Tomo666> no
[07:03] <IAskew> !gnome-look
[07:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about gnome-look - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:03] <IAskew> thats a shame, the bot should know about gnome-look
[07:03] <Wermut> seadog: Try "cat /var/log/messages | grep atkbd.c"
[07:03] <Djainette> Is there an iso-doctor in the room ?
[07:04] <seadog> ok
[07:04] <Tomo666> neutrinomass  no it doesnt help
[07:04] <jpfarias> good morning people
[07:04] <neutrinomass> Tomo666: Then it's probably a hardware problem.... It just happens randomly ?
[07:04] <Tomo666> neutrinomass yes
[07:05] <jpfarias> I would like to know if there are any vnc client with support for resizing window
[07:05] <pushpop> How do I install a GDM Theme in Ubuntu? is there a wiki on this?
[07:05] <jpfarias> like tightvnc and ultravnc does in windows
[07:05] <seadog> nothing happened
[07:05] <Wermut> seadog: Sorry, I was trying to figure out why you did not recieve my messages and pasted the wrong thing.
[07:05] <seadog> i'm not registered
[07:05] <BlueEagle> tomo666: Might be a borked APM or ACPI bios you've got.
[07:06] <Tomo666> neutrinomass: as my num lock light stay on do u think itl be mother board although the psu does go silent
[07:06] <neutrinomass> Tomo666: I don't really know... I don't think software can do anything to ignore the power button when it is pressed for several seconds, the computer should just shut down. It could be a motherboard issue..... make backups and try Windows on it and see if the problem persists.
[07:06] <jpfarias> I would like to know if there are any vnc client with support for resizing window
[07:06] <jpfarias> like tightvnc and ultravnc does in windows
[07:06] <Ych> jpfarias, you mean resizing the desktop?
[07:06] <seadog> i have to make a new nick
[07:06] <BlueEagle> tomo666: ie. it attempts to go to sleep mode and then hangs.
[07:06] <Ych> or just the window around it, so you can scroll
[07:06] <BlueEagle> tomo666: You could try compiling a kernel w/o apm and acpi support.
[07:06] <alienseer23> is there a way to show all of the packages I have installed other than synaptic?
[07:06] <neutrinomass> Tomo666: Well, try what BlueEagle says. Try booting the kernel with acpi=off as an argument ...
[07:07] <Tomo666> thing is i hav run ununtu for awhile this is a new problem
[07:07] <seadog> i'll be back in a minute
[07:07] <Tomo666> ok ill try that
[07:07] <Tomo666> thx for ur help
[07:07] <Denial> hi all
[07:07] <neutrinomass> BlueEagle: I think the kernel cannot trap the several-second power button. Just hitting the powerbutton can be trapped and used as you wish, but the several second one always shuts down the computer, even when it has hanged.
[07:08] <Denial> du someone habe nForve sound drivers running ?
[07:08] <herbal> ok so i cant mount this .dmg, dmg2iso didnt work right....now im thinking i should copy the dmg to my windows partition and work on the dmg in windows...how can i get write access to that partition?
[07:08] <Denial> lol
[07:08] <Ych> jpfarias, cause i can make the window smaller so i have to scroll with xvncclient
[07:08] <damo22> why would u want the kernel to trap the hard reboot button
[07:08] <Ych> i mean xvncviewer
[07:08] <Ych> sry
[07:08] <Denial> Do someone have Nforce soundcard drivers running ?
[07:08] <Crooper> Wermut:i'm back
[07:08] <Wermut> Crooper: If that did not show anything either a) you did something wrong or b) your vendor did not wire that keys or c) there is some obscure bug in the kernel. Sorry if I could not help you. You can try to machine-translate this document http://de.gentoo-wiki.com/Multimediatasten#Keycode_herausfinden which covers the topic in a exhaustive manner.
[07:09] <jpfarias> Ych
[07:09] <bruce89> pushpop :  Login window in preferences has a GDM theme installer - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Gdmsetup.png
[07:09] <Ych> ya?
[07:09] <alienseer23> denial, which nforce?
[07:09] <jpfarias> Ych: I want to resize it but see whole desktop
[07:09] <Ych> oh, so zoom basically?
[07:09] <Crooper> ok...thnx for the help anyway Wermut
[07:09] <jpfarias> Ych: sort of
[07:09] <herbal> can someone tell me how to copy this file to my windows partition? its mounted and everything but wont let me write to it
[07:09] <jpfarias> Ych: it opposite as zoom
[07:09] <pushpop> bruce89: thank you
[07:09] <Wermut> Crooper: I would try to repeat the steps 1) find keycodes via xev and 2) find scancodes in /var/log/messages
[07:10] <bruce89> a bit late though
[07:10] <damo22> herbal: ntfs or fat32?
[07:10] <Denial> alienseer23, nforce for 430
[07:10] <jpfarias> Ych: I wanna see the desktop 1/2 the actual size
[07:10] <herbal> NTFS
[07:10] <Linuturk_code> herbal, if it's a NTFS system, you can't write to it
[07:10] <Crooper> ok...i'll research alittle too
[07:10] <herbal> ouch
[07:10] <Ych> yeah, zoom out basically
[07:10] <damo22> herbal, you dont wanna write ntfs its still broken
[07:10] <Ych> sorry, i have no idea, i just started using vnc myself recently
[07:10] <herbal> hmmm i think there is a program to read EXT2 in windows...maybe thatll work for me
[07:10] <jpfarias> ok
[07:10] <jpfarias> thx
[07:11] <Crooper> Wermut: right now i need to eat so i'll talk later
[07:11] <damo22> herbal, you can read from it though
[07:11] <Linuturk_code> herbal, there is a project out there to write to ntfs from linux. google for linux-ntfs
[07:11] <jpfarias> if u have the chance, try ultravnc in windows and u'll see what I mean
[07:11] <beerockxs> how can I reset the gnome font settings to the defaults?
[07:11] <alienseer23> denial: I have an nforce2 chipset, and I guess there are problems with some of the audio in nforce
[07:11] <Renan_s2> Hello, how can I fix an error "Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed'" when starting X?
[07:11] <herbal> cool thank you
[07:11] <alienseer23> so I use a soundblaster
[07:11] <Ych> well my windows machine is headless, so wont get around to it any time soon
[07:11] <damo22> linuturk: yes but i wouldnt trust it, it corrupts filesystems
[07:11] <Ych> but ill check it out sometime
[07:11] <JackONeill> Can I change the Gnome Main Menu button back to the normal foot icon?
[07:11] <jpfarias> lol
[07:11] <jpfarias> ok
[07:12] <Linuturk_code> have you ever typed so much you have blisters on the tips of your fingers? well, now I have :(
[07:12] <bruce89> oops
[07:12] <herbal> hmm maybe ill just do it in windows copy the file over, than mount it with daemon tools or extract data with winrar
[07:12] <Linuturk_code> or burn it to a disk herbal?
[07:12] <herbal> no cdrw...
[07:12] <damo22> usb stick
[07:12] <herbal> i used linstlux or w/e to install ubuntu
[07:12] <GNAM> 9 minutes and I complete ubuntu dapper dvd service pack 1
[07:12] <GNAM> :P
[07:13] <Linuturk_code> herbal, you could also setup a FAT32 partition on the drive. You can read/write from both windows and linux on FAT32
[07:13] <bruce89> service pack?
[07:13] <Baltazar^2> service pack ? more info please
[07:13] <ardchoille> Is there 6.06.01?
[07:13] <herbal> hmm
[07:13] <Crazed> hi got a problem ..
[07:13] <Crazed> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:13] <Crazed>   libgtk2.0-dev: Depends: libgtk2.0-0 (= 2.8.17-1ubuntu5) but 2.8.20-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[07:13] <Crazed>                  Depends: libpango1.0-dev (>= 1.10.0-2) but it is not going to be installed
[07:13] <Crazed> E: Broken packages
[07:13] <Linuturk_code> the 6.06.1 release
[07:13] <bruce89> there is a 6.06.1
[07:14] <bruce89> but it is not called a service pack
[07:14] <ardchoille> Wow, didn't know that
[07:14] <Linuturk_code> if you have kept your system up to date via update manager, you should be running 6.06.1 right now
[07:14] <GNAM> 6.06.1
[07:14] <bruce89> it's a point release
[07:14] <FloK> i once had a free pdf tool where one can fill in forms, do you know one?
[07:14] <damo22> i just did clean install, i got 6.06.1
[07:14] <damo22> :)
[07:14] <bruce89> crazed : what are you trying to do?
[07:14] <Crazed>  sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev
[07:15] <ardchoille> Yep, lsb_release -a returns Ubuntu 5.05.1 LTS
[07:15] <bruce89> you don't have the universe updates repo
[07:15] <ardchoille> Imeant 6.06.1
[07:15] <Denial> alienseer23, do you know how to configure 4.1 on my onboard soundcard without the Nforcr drivers ?
[07:15] <pirate-king> hello
[07:15] <bburns_> I am trying to start syslog-ng again on my server because I restarted, but when I try to start it, it tells me Error binding socket; error='Address already in use (98)', addr='AF_UNIX(/dev/log)'
[07:15] <bburns_> Can someone help me please
[07:15] <pirate-king> want to try ubuntu on laptop
[07:15] <aldo> What's the terminal command to list the corrupted installations?
[07:16] <Denial> alienseer23, sound is running , but unly by 2 of 4 speakers
[07:16] <bruce89> crazed : you don't have the universe updates repo.
[07:16] <pirate-king> but keep xp pro on too
[07:16] <alienseer23> denial, sorry, no
[07:16] <IAskew> pirate-king, and?
[07:16] <Tamale> hey, i got a question... is there a little php wiki I can install easily on my ubuntu webserver>
[07:16] <Tamale> ?
[07:16] <bruenig> pirate-king, sounds like a dual boot is in store
[07:16] <alienseer23> why without the drivers?
[07:16] <IAskew> pirate-king, and?
[07:16] <Denial> alienseer23, okay thx
[07:16] <pirate-king> how big of a drive should I make
[07:16] <pirate-king> for linux
[07:16] <abhinay> !laptop
[07:16] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[07:16] <IAskew> 7 gb to be sure
[07:16] <pirate-king> ok
[07:16] <bburns_> Can someone help me please
[07:16] <pirate-king> thanks
[07:16] <IAskew> yvw
[07:16] <JackONeill> Can I change the Gnome Main Menu button back to the normal foot icon?
[07:17] <ardchoille> Tamale: Check out  http://pmwiki.com/  I use that and it is a nice personal wiki
[07:17] <bburns_> I am trying to start syslog-ng again on my server because I restarted, but when I try to start it, it tells me Error binding socket; error='Address already in use (98)', addr='AF_UNIX(/dev/log)'
[07:17] <anon4318> is there any package that causes ubuntu to lag alot?
[07:17] <zero-1> why cant I use ImageCreate on PHP5 on Ubuntu?
[07:17] <bruenig> ubuntu, My install is only at 4 GB disk usage right now and I have been using it for quite a while so 7 is plenty unless you intend to store a bunch of files o nit
[07:17] <bruce89> crazed, are you still there
[07:17] <anon4318> i upgraded yesterday and before that my computer was fast , now if i have more then three things open it lags alot
[07:17] <Crazed> yes
[07:18] <anon4318> is there anything i can do to get it working like it was before?
[07:18] <bruce89> you need to add the universe updates
[07:18] <Crazed> already did now 1 mom :)
[07:18] <Icemasta[God] > Oh shi- I got another question
[07:18] <bruce89> sorry
[07:18] <damo22> anon, try upgrading your kernel
[07:18] <bruce89> it should work no
[07:18] <anon4318> i did damo22
[07:19] <damo22> which one are you running?
[07:19] <bruenig> anon, I never really cared for the dist-upgrade myself, fresh install always seemed best
[07:19] <bburns_> Can someone help me please
[07:19] <anon4318> well i thought maybe it had something to do with frostwire
[07:19] <IAskew> i upgraded my kernel to 686 now it takes forever to log into xchat, wonder why that is?
[07:20] <damo22> anon: check your running processes maybe something is broken and hogging cpu
[07:20] <bruenig> if you are running frostwire, that is going to suck a lot of resources seeing as it runs on java
[07:20] <Crazed> lol dont know what I am doing wrong but still cant install the package :D
[07:20] <anon4318> well usually it was frostwire damo22
[07:20] <anon4318> it would be taking up like 70% of the pcu
[07:20] <bburns_> zero-1, I dont know if I can PM you because I;m not registered
[07:20] <damo22> hmm that sucks
[07:20] <anon4318> so i uninstalled it but my computer is still laggin
[07:20] <anon4318> synaptic lags alot
[07:20] <Wermut> IAskew: Running a Pentium-M?
[07:21] <bburns_> zero-1, it wont let me PM you
[07:21] <IAskew> old type P4 Wermut
[07:21] <beerockxs> how can I reset the gnome font settings to the defaults?
[07:21] <damo22> xchat takes ages to load on my p-m too , but im running i386 standard kernel
[07:21] <bruenig> System>Preferences>fonts
[07:21] <damo22> is there a fix?
[07:21] <bruenig> I know a fix, use GAIM :P
[07:21] <beerockxs> bruenig: I know where to set them, but not how to reset them to the distro-default
[07:21] <bburns_> zero-1, I am trying to start syslog-ng again on my server because I restarted, but when I try to start it, it tells me Error binding socket; error='Address already in use (98)', addr='AF_UNIX(/dev/log)'
[07:22] <damo22> brunenig: i use irssi
[07:22] <cica> hi... trying to use VPN and I'm getting the following errorr: The application was unable to communicate with the VPN sub-system. Any ideas Please ? :-)
[07:22] <zoomy> okay.. why can't I find gnome-desktop-environment when I search for it using apt-cache search???
[07:22] <Icemasta[God] > Here is the situation: I got 4 partitions, for a total of 1676GiB, 1 is 76GB, which will be wiped out to install linux, in EXT3, The 3 others are 600gib, 600 gib, 400gib, all in NTFS, I found another external HDD of 600GB so I can format. Here is the problem, how do I handle that? Windows will format the HDD in NTFS, if I install linux first, I'll format it in ext3, so how do I move my NTFS files to the EXT3?
[07:22] <anon4318> how do i see what kernel i have?
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[07:22] <beerockxs> Icemasta[God] : you can format as fat32 in windows and in linux
[07:22] <bruenig> beerocksxs, do you mean the ubuntu default because they are all set at Sans 10 font with Window title being Sans Bold and Best Shapes for font rendering
[07:22] <bruce89> uname -a
[07:22] <devhen> im on a pentium-m, xchat runs quick so does everything else
[07:23] <damo22> 1.6Tb?? holy crap
[07:23] <beerockxs> bruenig: exactly, thnaks
[07:23] <cica> anon4318: uname -r
[07:23] <Icemasta[God] > bruenig, I want ext3
[07:23] <bruenig> beerockxs, oh and the Fixed width font is monospace
[07:23] <Ych> i have 0,7TB and its hard enough for me to transfer everything....
[07:23] <anon4318> 2.6.15
[07:23] <Ych> cant imagine doing it with over twice that
[07:23] <Icemasta[God] > Oh wait
[07:23] <cica> any VPN guru's in the vacinity?
[07:23] <damo22> wtf u doing with 1.6Tb, too much porn?
[07:23] <beerockxs> bruenig: monospace at what size?
[07:23] <sysdoc> lol
[07:24] <bsdfox> video editing
[07:24] <bruenig> `0
[07:24] <bruenig> 10
[07:24] <Ych> i dont think 1.6TB of pr0n is possible
[07:24] <bsdfox> I built a 3TB NAS for a client last week
[07:24] <Ych> you'd have to be seriously messed up for that....
[07:24] <Icemasta[God] > Under windows, I format the external HDD in fat32
[07:24] <Icemasta[God] > It's all anime
[07:24] <damo22> ROFL
[07:24] <Icemasta[God] > Only 200 gb of porn
[07:24] <Wermut> cica: What's the problem? (This does not mean I am a vpn guru)
[07:24] <damo22> hahahaha
[07:24] <Icemasta[God] > ANd 300gib of hentai I think, not sure
[07:24] <bsdfox> Icemasta[God] , fat32 has a max size of 32G I think
[07:24] <bruce89> yikes
[07:24] <damo22> 200GB???
[07:24] <cica> Wermut: trying to use VPN and I'm getting the following errorr: The application was unable to communicate with the VPN sub-system
[07:24] <Ych> lol
[07:24] <bburns_> zero-1, I installed syslog-ng a few days ago, it was working flawlessly, but i restarted and now I cant start it.  I think my default logs are running how would I stop them to see if thats the issue?
[07:24] <[Ex0r] > wth, 300gigs of hentai ?
[07:25] <damo22> hahahahaha
[07:25] <anon4318> so does anyone know a fix that could help with my lagging problems?
[07:25] <bsdfox> I want 200g of porn
[07:25] <Ych> now that on the other hand is slightly messed up....
[07:25] <Icemasta[God] > Yes, exor
[07:25] <mike-e> are there any virtual cdroms like daemon that are ported for ubuntu?
[07:25] <Icemasta[God] > What is so surprising?
[07:25] <IAskew> bsdfox, try thehun
[07:25] <bruce89> in what way
[07:25] <bruenig> It depends on the quality of the porn, you could rip dvds in to mpegs and fill it up pretty fast
[07:25] <[Ex0r] > I didn't even know there was that many.
[07:25] <[Ex0r] > much*
[07:25] <damo22> exor... dont be naive
[07:25] <Icemasta[God] > Exor, games, movies, and I think I hit the 20000 doujins
[07:25] <bruce89> anon4318, in what way is it lagging
[07:25] <Icemasta[God] > And maybe 1000 mangas
[07:25] <anon4318> it just freezes up bruce89
[07:26] <Ych> http://bash.org/?416604
[07:26] <Ych> lol
[07:26] <JackONeill> is linux transplantable?  -  i.e. could I copy the ext3 partition to another pc and it would work?
[07:26] <cica> Wermut: any ideas?
[07:26] <Icemasta[God] > ERr, 2000 doukin
[07:26] <Tamale> ardchoille:  Thanks
[07:26] <[Ex0r] > I'm not. I don't even know anybody who has 300 gigs of porn, why would it be impossible to believe somebody has 300gigs of cartoon porn ?
[07:26] <Giskard> hi guys
[07:26] <bruenig> JackONeill, the only issue is hardware
[07:26] <Dr_willis> JackONeill,  if ya did it right. :P
[07:26] <damo22> jackoneill yes... use rsync
[07:26] <anon4318> like if i'm running more then tree programs at a time it starts getting really slow
[07:26] <ardchoille> Tamale: You're welcome :)
[07:26] <Wermut> cica: I am by no ways a VPN guru; my experience is that vpnc works well with cisco network concentrator. What are you using (vpnc, OpenVPN ...)?
[07:26] <vikash> hello
[07:26] <Giskard> is there an easy installation guide for vnc in ubuntu?
[07:26] <vikash> friends
[07:26] <Icemasta[God] > exor, hentai is much more "popular" in term of different content and stuff
[07:26] <vikash> i updated my system today
[07:26] <NickGarvey> !vnc > Giskard
[07:26] <Dr_willis> Giskard,  apt-get intall vnc4server    there ya go. :P
[07:26] <Icemasta[God] > Porn websites share the same movies between them
[07:26] <bruce89> anon4318, what is the whole output of uname -a
[07:26] <IAskew> vikash, hello x 883
[07:26] <vikash> after updating my system when i clicked
[07:26] <mike-e> are there any virtual cdroms like daemon that are ported for ubuntu?
[07:26] <damo22> i hardly ever use cp anymore, just rsync
[07:26] <vikash> on synaptic
[07:26] <cica> Wermut: Cisco VPN
[07:26] <Giskard> heh :P ty ill try that
[07:26] <Dr_willis> Giskard,  it pays to read the vnc docs and guides. if yoce never used it befor.
[07:26] <vikash> it asked me for password
[07:27] <vikash> but it did not took
[07:27] <anon4318> Linux Cerebrum 2.6.15-26-386  #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux bruce89
[07:27] <Icemasta[God] > And with the new webcam technology, they spare lots of place for "customized porn"
[07:27] <vikash> when i enterd root pwd
[07:27] <beerockxs> mike-e: you should be able to mount iso images just like that
[07:27] <vikash> it didnt showd error  but nothing happene
[07:27] <Icemasta[God] > Anyway
[07:27] <vikash> i opened terminal and type sudo synaptic
[07:27] <Icemasta[God] > So, forget fat32
[07:27] <bburns_> zero-1, Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See http://procps.sf.net/faq.html
[07:27] <bburns_> 14439 pts/1    R+     0:00 grep syslog-ng
[07:27] <damo22> Icemasta: if i had 1Tb i would use it for audio production
[07:27] <bruce89> anon, what type of processor is it?
[07:27] <vikash> now it opened synaptic
[07:27] <vikash> why it happened
[07:27] <Icemasta[God] > damo, I don't do that :P
[07:28] <Icemasta[God] > SO, can I get an answer?
[07:28] <bruenig> vikash, gksudo synaptic is prefered
[07:28] <vikash> after updation
[07:28] <NickGarvey> vikash: I would suggest using "gksudo"
[07:28] <anon4318> centrino  bruce89
[07:28] <damo22> Icemasta, what is the problem
[07:28] <Icemasta[God] > 3 partitions in NTFS
[07:28] <anon4318> pentium 4
[07:28] <Icemasta[God] > 600 600 400gb
[07:28] <anon4318> its a dell latitude d500
[07:28] <bburns_> zero-1, yes
[07:28] <vikash> why?
[07:28] <damo22> Icemasta: yes, and...
[07:28] <Icemasta[God] > I got an external 600 HDD so I can format them one by one
[07:28] <Wermut> cica: If it is a Cisco system you could try vpnc (apt-get install vpnc). The configuration is very simple (man vpnc); you only have to create a .conf-file and specify your identity, group, password etc.
[07:28] <wulax> has someone here tried using xcompmgr with an ATI card and succeded?
[07:28] <Icemasta[God] > The problem is, they are all NTFS
[07:29] <vikash> why it is not taking my user password
[07:29] <Icemasta[God] > If I install linux first, and format the external hdd in ext3
[07:29] <vikash> when i click on the icon
[07:29] <vikash> of synaptic
[07:29] <anon4318> you know anything bruce89 ?
[07:29] <bruce89> anon, hold p
[07:29] <damo22> icemasta: yes
[07:29] <anon4318> k
[07:29] <bruce89> * hold on
[07:29] <cica> Wermut: was advised not to use vpnc
[07:29] <vikash> hey nick
[07:29] <Icemasta[God] > Will the ntfs files transfer properly over to the ext3 filesystem?
[07:29] <bsdfox> Icemasta[God] , format the external as ext3 in knoppix and transfer all the stuff you want on ext3 to it. then pull the drive
[07:29] <Icemasta[God] > 'cause I read somewhere it's read only
[07:29] <jrib> vikash: in a terminal, try 'gksudo synaptic'
[07:29] <vikash> it works man
[07:30] <vikash> but why it is not taking ped without terminal
[07:30] <cica> Wermut: for security reasons... so trying to connect with this one that I have to use
[07:30] <vikash> pwd
[07:30] <zipper_> W: GPG error: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net dapper-cafuego Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 580E2519969F3F57
[07:30] <vikash> it was taking pwd before updation
[07:30] <damo22> Icemasta: boot up off knoppix cd format external as ext3, mount one and rsync it to external
[07:30] <zipper_> ehh?
[07:30] <zipper_> sorry
[07:30] <bruce89> anon, sudo aptitude install linux-686 might work, though you'll have to reboot
[07:30] <bruenig> zipper_, go to the url
[07:30] <jrib> vikash: can you try again?  what you just did is exactly the same thing the menu does
[07:30] <Icemasta[God] > So basically
[07:30] <Wermut> cica: Sorry, I picked vpnc because it is easy to configure :)
[07:30] <vikash> i tried many times
[07:31] <cica> Wermut: np... thanks dude
[07:31] <Icemasta[God] > Format external, move datas from one partition, move said partition, move back to the datas?
[07:31] <vikash> but it is not working with menu but command prompt
[07:31] <zipper_> i'm trying to install the bcm43xx-firmware package through apt-get, but i'm getting an error when doing an 'apt-get update' : "The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available"
[07:31] <sysdoc> anon4318, you want the 686 kernel, supports the P4 smp.
[07:31] <Icemasta[God] > ERr
[07:31] <Icemasta[God] > "Format said partition"*
[07:31] <bruenig> zipper_, go to that url
[07:31] <damo22> Icemasta: how big is the physical main drive?
[07:31] <vikash> it shows error that i can not login as root
[07:31] <IAskew> Icemasta, u need 7gb total for ubuntu
[07:31] <Icemasta[God] > 3 600GB HDD
[07:31] <bruce89> not a good idea to login as root
[07:31] <vikash> whrn i gave root pwd nothing happened
[07:31] <zipper_> bruenig, just like, in firefox or?
[07:32] <Ych> can you format a HDD in cd format?
[07:32] <grout_> in ubuntu sometimes the buttons get dotted lines through them but as soon as i bring my mouse cursor over them they disapear
[07:32] <bruenig> zipper_ wherever, it gives you instructions on how to enable to gpg key
[07:32] <Icemasta[God] > grout_, got an ati video card?
[07:32] <IAskew> wha ych?
[07:32] <zipper_> bruenig, oooh, sorry, thanks
[07:32] <bsdfox> grout_, I used to get that.. did you dist-upgrade from breezy to dapper?
[07:32] <anon4318> is there anyway this could mess up my system bruce89 ?
[07:32] <zipper_> lol, that took me a while to realize
[07:32] <Ych> like make an external hard drive a 250GB iso
[07:32] <Ych> ?
[07:32] <damo22> Icemasta: so no problem, use common sense
[07:32] <grout_> yes i have a ati video card
[07:32] <vikash> hi nick
[07:32] <Icemasta[God] > That explains it
[07:32] <bruce89> anon, it shouldn't
[07:33] <Ych> without it being inside of a diff filesystem
[07:33] <grout_> how do I fix it?
[07:33] <Icemasta[God] > I have had that, it's a driver problem, mostly for me
[07:33] <bsdfox> I'm pretty sure mine went away
[07:33] <vikash> hello
[07:33] <NickGarvey> vikash: are you talking to me?
[07:33] <sysdoc> anon4318, Then you'll want to compile the kernel with the right IDE controler to get an real performance for the HD. But none of these is gonna make xchat load any faster, it loads slow here too
[07:33] <Icemasta[God] > It's either the video card won't load the drivers, or accept them or just won't work at all
[07:33] <anon4318> its not xchat thats the problem
[07:33] <grout_> i installed the drivers using automatix but that didnt work
[07:33] <vikash> ya
[07:33] <anon4318> xchat always works fine
[07:33] <damo22> lol 1.6Tb for a personal computer.. its too funny
[07:33] <bsdfox> doubt that
[07:33] <Icemasta[God] > Try changing drivers, older ones, newer ones
[07:33] <bruenig> xchat used to load real fast for me before I uninstalled it
[07:33] <Ych> i dont think its that much
[07:33] <Icemasta[God] > damo22, well, I got them all for free!
[07:33] <bruce89> does it just crash randomly?
[07:33] <IAskew> there seems to be a 30 second hush while freenode kicks in
[07:34] <Ych> a couple months of pirating and youve got it
[07:34] <damo22> Icemasta: how
[07:34] <vikash> synaptic is working fine when i start it using command prompt
[07:34] <anon4318> xchat bruce89 ?
[07:34] <vikash> but not with menu
[07:34] <bsdfox> bruenig, maybe your hosts file is messed up
[07:34] <bruce89> ?
[07:34] <Icemasta[God] > I work for Hydro-quebec
[07:34] <Ych> i could pirate 100GB of media in a month
[07:34] <Icemasta[God] > Ever heard of them?
[07:34] <damo22> nope
[07:34] <Ych> files are getting so big
[07:34] <damo22> Icemasta: what is your cpu
[07:34] <Ych> i remember when i put a 2GB HDD in my computer
[07:34] <Icemasta[God] > A big hydro-eletrical that feeds a good part of canada and all northern USA
[07:34] <Icemasta[God] > company
[07:34] <lhds> i have made an icon on the desktop that runs the command :  sox -c 2 -s -w -r 32000 -t ossdsp /dev/dsp2 -t ossdsp /dev/dsp how to stop the command when i want? what am i supposed to do or type?
[07:34] <zoomy> okay.. why can't I find gnome-desktop-environment when I search for it using apt-cache search???
[07:34] <Ych> cause my 1,2GB was getting full
[07:35] <cello_rasp> can anyone point me to a default /etc/apt/sources.list ? Automatix lost mine..
[07:35] <Ych> the good old days
[07:35] <IAskew> lhds ctrl+C
[07:35] <anon4318> does ubuntu have any books out about tweeking and modifying it?
[07:35] <lhds> what?
[07:35] <anon4318> preferably in pdf
[07:35] <NickGarvey> vikash: when you talk to me, use my full user name, so it will highlight on my screen
[07:35] <bruenig> !info gnome-desktop-environment
[07:35] <ubotu> gnome-desktop-environment: The GNOME Desktop Environment. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1:2.12.2.3 (dapper), package size 11 kB, installed size 44 kB
[07:35] <Icemasta[God] > damo22, Intel Pentium 4, 3.2GHZ, 2GB ram DDR2, 1.8TB (1.676TiB),
[07:35] <vikash> ok
[07:35] <bruenig> appears to be in universe, need to enable that
[07:35] <Icemasta[God] > For the basica
[07:35] <Crooper> i love usb hdd... one for movies...one for music...one for apps
[07:36] <vikash> NickGarvey:  now ok
[07:36] <PepoBSD> where i can find de headers 2.6.15-19-386 ? becouse my aptitude has 2.6.15-23-386 ?
[07:36] <damo22> pentium 4? you should get dual core or something
[07:36] <bsdfox> I love networked fileservers
[07:36] <bruce89> !info linux-686
[07:36] <ubotu> linux-686: Complete Linux kernel on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.. In repository restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.15.24 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[07:36] <vikash> NickGarvey:  actually my synaptic and other administrative application
[07:36] <vikash> NickGarvey: was working fine
[07:36] <bruce89> sorry, just checking
[07:36] <Icemasta[God] > damo22, I can't afford any hardware upgrade for a while
[07:36] <vikash> NickGarvey: when i didnt updated my system
[07:36] <RoninGurl> Why would VNC to Ubuntu be slower than Remote Desktop to WinXP between thet same computers -- and there is ZERO traffic on the network right now. It's terribly, horribly slow with VNC to Ubuntu.
[07:36] <NickGarvey> vikash: whats not working then?
[07:36] <vikash> NickGarvey: with menu
[07:37] <vikash> NickGarvey: now
[07:37] <PepoBSD> where i can find de headers 2.6.15-19-386 ? becouse my aptitude has 2.6.15-23-386 :D
[07:37] <IAskew> 1.8TB lol
[07:37] <damo22> Icemasta: heh my hdd died, i had to buy one
[07:37] <Icemasta[God] > Anyway, I'll figure out something
[07:37] <damo22> 80gb
[07:37] <bruce89> 2.6.15-19 is an old version
[07:37] <angel> hej.. nn som kan hjlpa mig?? jag frsker intstallera Glade men jag fr: Fel uppstod vid hantering:
[07:37] <angel> clvm
[07:37] <angel> redhat-cluster-suite
[07:37] <angel> system-config-cluster
[07:37] <angel> Error
[07:37] <angel> Problems were encountered while running dpkg.
[07:37] <PepoBSD> bruce89: yes
[07:37] <Crooper> dual core= 686-smp....works great here
[07:37] <vikash> NickGarvey: when i click on synaptic icon in my menu it asks for pwd gksu  and didnt accepts pwd
[07:37] <spanglesontoast> hey does anyone know why when compiling gcc it spits this out ? xgcc: Internal error: Killed (program cc1)
[07:38] <bruce89> pepobsd, yes to what?
[07:38] <Icemasta[God] > damo22, those 3 were "to throw away" hdds, which were used to store datas from many computers in one of the building,
[07:38] <vikash> NickGarvey: but when i type  sudo or gksudo and synaptic in terminal it opens synaptic
[07:38] <PepoBSD> bruce89: very old
[07:38] <damo22> icemasta: geez...
[07:38] <bruce89> soory
[07:38] <Icemasta[God] > They bought new ones, and those were to be killed, burned, whatever
[07:38] <vikash> NickGarvey: why it is not working with menu
[07:38] <Icemasta[God] > One wasn't working
[07:38] <lhds>  i have made an icon on the desktop that runs the command :  sox -c 2 -s -w -r 32000 -t ossdsp /dev/dsp2 -t ossdsp /dev/dsp how to stop the command when i want? what am i supposed to do or type?
[07:38] <bruce89> gets a bit confusing in here
[07:38] <Icemasta[God] > So I just formatted them all, and the broken one was fixed
[07:38] <longwave> lhds: "killall sox" should work
[07:39] <damo22> Icemasta: i really think hdds are stupidly designed, not to be servicible
[07:39] <IAskew> lhds, doesnt ctrl+c work?
[07:39] <NickGarvey> vikash: sure the password is right?
[07:39] <bruce89> as far as I know, 2.6.15-24 was the one when dapper was released
[07:39] <longwave> IAskew: not if it's running in the background and disconnected from any terminal
[07:39] <Icemasta[God] > Actaully, guess what caused the broken one not to work?
[07:39] <vikash> hi
[07:39] <RoninGurl> Why would VNC to Ubuntu be slower than Remote Desktop to WinXP between thet same computers -- and there is ZERO traffic on the network right now. It's terribly, horribly slow with VNC to Ubuntu.
[07:39] <IAskew> ah i c thx longwave
[07:39] <bruenig> vikash, go to Applications>Accessories>Alacarte
[07:39] <damo22> Icemasta: the mechanics inside a hdd should be replacable
[07:39] <vikash> then
[07:40] <Icemasta[God] > But if they break
[07:40] <bruenig> vikash, once there go down to System Administration Synaptic
[07:40] <Icemasta[God] > It's GOOD GAME SUCKER
[07:40] <ardchoille> RoninGurl: Are these computers on the same LAN?
[07:40] <vikash> bruenig : then
[07:40] <damo22> yep
[07:40] <no0tic> is there any unofficial package for ROOT framework from Cern?
[07:40] <bruenig> vikash, right click on it and select properties
[07:40] <TheGateKeeper> RoninGurl: vnc is always slower than remote desktop, probable something to do with the amount of information that is needing to be transmitted, remote desktop for instance may well not show you the remote pc's wallpaper but vnc will
[07:40] <vikash> bruenig : then
[07:40] <bruenig> if gksudo is working change the command to that
[07:40] <RoninGurl> ardchoille, yep.
[07:40] <longwave> damo22: how would the average user replace them, seeing as the HD is so fragile it has to be built in a clean room environment?
[07:40] <Icemasta[God] > damo22, still the problem was with the plug behind it XD
[07:40] <vikash> bruenig : let me check it out
[07:40] <Crooper> hmmmm... i need to look into gaming on linux for a friend...anyone know of any good sites?
[07:40] <Icemasta[God] > The pin to set it to slave or master wasn't there
[07:41] <damo22> longwave: creates jobs for technicians
[07:41] <RoninGurl> TheGateKeeper, VNC is not configurable to not do such things?
[07:41] <Icemasta[God] > And the technician must have been too lazy to look
[07:41] <zultan> i have some problems with locale settings on ubuntu, can anyone point me to some guide/documentation wich describes it ?
[07:41] <ardchoille> RoninGurl: Then, you'r better off with "ssh -X user@host", you don't get the full desktop, but it's much faster. You can run gedit from the ssh -X session
[07:41] <Ych> VNC from ubuntu works quite fast for me
[07:41] <longwave> damo22: but it is cheaper just to buy a new HD than pay a technician to fix a broken one
[07:41] <Ych> to windows
[07:41] <Ych> i find it better than remote desktop
[07:41] <fyrestrtr> !locales
[07:41] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LocaleConf
[07:41] <TheGateKeeper> RoninGurl: correct
[07:41] <angel> i have a problem.. iam trying to install glide but i will not work... i only get error.
[07:41] <Ych> cause remote desktop would always give me encryption errors
[07:41] <vikash> bruenig : thanx
[07:41] <damo22> longwave: yes, and as a result we have landfill full of devices which could be fixed
[07:41] <damo22> :(
[07:41] <vikash> bruenig : its working  man .. ur great
[07:41] <angel> Error
[07:41] <angel> Problems were encountered while running dpkg.
[07:41] <RoninGurl> TheGateKeeper, just lazy programmers or just hidden somewhere?
[07:42] <Ych> and vnc works real time for me, dont think you can get any faster than that
[07:42] <ardchoille> RoninGurl: ssh -X forwards X to the client machine
[07:42] <RoninGurl> ardchoille, the client machine is Windows XP.
[07:42] <Crooper> angel: what errors
[07:42] <longwave> damo22: yes, i agree with the landfill problem, but there is no easy solution that is also cheap :(
[07:42] <scrappy_> RoninGurl: it doesnt answer your question but you might search for freenx at wiki.ubuntu.com i much prefer it these days
[07:42] <TheGateKeeper> RoninGurl: not lazy programmers, the two methods will be using different mechanisms
[07:42] <ardchoille> RoninGurl: oops, never mind then lol
[07:42] <SockerFot> http://www.enlargeyourpenis.de/52526.html
[07:42] <Linuturk_code> ardchoille, how would I do that via putty running a win xp machine connecting to a remote ubuntu server?
[07:42] <angel> Fel uppstod vid hantering:
[07:42] <angel> clvm
[07:42] <angel> redhat-cluster-suite
[07:42] <angel> system-config-cluster
[07:43] <damo22> longwave: wrong, i believe it is practical to design a modular hdd which can have the mechanical part replacable
[07:43] <ardchoille> Linuturk_code: I've not a clue.. I haven't touched a Windows OS since 1999
[07:43] <fyrestrtr> damo22: you must not know how hdd are designed
[07:43] <Linuturk_code> ardchoille, ok
[07:43] <longwave> damo22: by all means go ahead and build it, but i dont think it is
[07:43] <RoninGurl> TheGateKeeper, but even with all sounds being forwarded and desktop  background, WinXP remote desktop is 3 - 5 times faster than VNC on the same exact LAN, same exact computers, zero traffic elsewhere.
[07:43] <RoninGurl> I just dont get it.
[07:43] <doraemon81> may i noe how can i view a chinese text file in gedit
[07:43] <longwave> damo22: even an entire pc is considered throwaway now when it breaks, people would rather buy a new dell than pay to get their old pc fixed
[07:44] <doraemon81> i can read that doc in firefox, with simplified chinese encoding
[07:44] <Ych> ive heard people say that before
[07:44] <Ych> but its lightning fast for me
[07:44] <Ych> weird
[07:44] <Icemasta[God] > damo, queried you.
[07:44] <bruce89> doraemon81, what happens in gedit?
[07:44] <RoninGurl> TheGateKeeper, Ych, even a bash shell takes a few seconds to update using ultavnc viewer. i even tried tightvnc viewer.
[07:44] <TheGateKeeper> RoninGurl: if VNC has to compress & then uncompress 10x the info remote desktop does then hardly surprising
[07:45] <damo22> fyrestrtr: why do you say that? every single one of my hard drives failed due to mechanical read head getting stuck
[07:45] <Ych> well, in my case the server is a windows machine
[07:45] <Ych> so maybe that makes a difference?
, just rubish word come out. cannot display chinese at all
[07:45] <TheGateKeeper> RoninGurl: doesn't surprise me
[07:45] <ZeiP> Is azureus-package supposed to be in some of the standard repositories? I'm getting "no package"...
[07:45] <damo22> fyrestrtr: a simple replacement every year could make hdds last 10 years
[07:45] <RoninGurl> TheGateKeeper, how is it 10 times the info if remote desktop also transmits wallpapers, and even sound... i could be playing an mp3... and it would appear on client machine speakers, not host and still not get lag.
[07:46] <scrappy_> ZeiP: its in universe
[07:46] <RoninGurl> but do anything on VNC... like bash shell.
[07:46] <RoninGurl> die
[07:46] <RoninGurl> ?
[07:46] <fyrestrtr> damo22: like I said, you must not know how hdd are built, if you think that is possible.
[07:46] <TheGateKeeper> RoninGurl: are you a programmer?
[07:46] <bruce89> doraemon81, is it in unicode
[07:46] <RoninGurl> Nope. I just dont get how its 10x the info being sent by vnc protocol ... :P
[07:46] <bruce89> to be honest i don't really know what the problem could be
[07:46] <doraemon81> it is in GB2312
[07:46] <megasquid> anyone know how to get a SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio card working in ubuntu?
[07:47] <damo22> fyrestrtr: unfortunately they must be contructed in immaculate room by a robot with no dust particles
[07:47] <doraemon81> bruce89, it is in GB2312
[07:47] <ssdd534> can anyone point me to a twinview tutorial
[07:48] <angel> where can i find 'fix broken' menu item?? anyone who know?
[07:48] <rivanvx> megasquid: it should work
[07:48] <damo22> fyrestrtr: but it IS possible
[07:48] <fyrestrtr> damo22: I'm not going to discuss this here with you.
[07:48] <megasquid> rivanvx: for some reason its not, i'm on a laptop is there something i need to configure?
[07:48] <TheGateKeeper> RoninGurl: I don't know if it's 10x or 1000x or 10000x I have not looked closely under the surface, if you reduce the reolution of the target pc that will probable help, also use a plain background wallpaper
[07:48] <IAskew> update-menus
[07:48] <ZeiP> scrappy_, universe is in the standard /etc/apt/sources.list, right? I uncommented all entries, did apt-get update, but azureus isn't on the list...
[07:49] <rivanvx> megasquid: try sudo alsaconf
[07:49] <TheGateKeeper> RoninGurl: resolution ooops
[07:49] <fyrestrtr> !easysource > Zedd
[07:49] <fyrestrtr> !easysource > ZeiP
[07:49] <RoninGurl> *sigh*... so no way to configure vnc to be more bandwidth friendly since it isnt using it as efficiently... *sigh*. what about ssh-agent, that doesnt seem to be installed. is that a whoops on my install or by design?
[07:49] <megasquid> rivanvx: thats another thing, i have alsa-base and alsa-tools installed, but alsaconf is not found
[07:50] <bruce89> doraemon81, i don't really know
[07:50] <solstice> where can i get  a list of usefull ubuntu related links ?
[07:51] <rivanvx> megasquid: anything relevant in dmesg?
[07:51] <vbgunz> Whats up with Totem colors? Something is seriously off... the colors are horrible :(
[07:51] <TheGateKeeper> RoninGurl: if you want to control a remote linux machine either do what I said, or use an X server at one end and an X client at the other, or just use the cli
[07:51] <vbgunz> !totem
[07:51] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[07:51] <TheGateKeeper> !freenx
[07:51] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[07:51] <bartek> hello
[07:51] <bruce89> vbgunz, it's fine for me
[07:52] <TheGateKeeper> !freenx > RoninGurl
[07:52] <bartek> some one can hellp me?
[07:52] <vbgunz> bruce89: not fine for me... totem colors are ugly... very ugly :(
[07:52] <rixxon> skype has problems with my sound card (which works for everything else)?
[07:52] <rixxon> "Problem with sound device"
[07:52] <bruce89> any changes in preferences>colo(u)rs?
[07:52] <bartek> i dont know how to instal wine-0.9.17-mdk.i586.rpm :(
[07:53] <doraemon81> how can i make gedit view document with encoding GB2312?
[07:53] <Dr_willis> RoninGurl,  vnc has oooodles of options in the bandwith area.. reduce the # of colors, compression, and other tweaks.. good luck..  check the docs.
[07:53] <Dr_willis> byeee
[07:53] <rixxon> is skype supposed to use /dev/dsp?
[07:53] <damo22> fyrestrtr: i am curious why you are so adamant that it is impossible
[07:53] <RoninGurl> TheGateKeeper, FreeNX doesnt have a windows client... its useless except to *nix zealots
[07:53] <vbgunz> bruce89: this totem color problem is on a brand new ubuntu
[07:54] <bruce89> bartek, you'll need alein
[07:54] <fyrestrtr> damo22: because I know more about hard disk engineering than 'immaculate room by a robot with no dust particles' :)
[07:54] <TheGateKeeper> bartek: have a look at this: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Windows_Applications_in_Linux_.28Wine.29
[07:54] <Centaur5> Is there anyway to make it so Dapper can be on a dialup connection and still be able to browse files on a network computer?
[07:54] <bruce89> oops, vbgunz, mabye a video driver issue
[07:54] <damo22> fyrestrtr: :)
[07:54] <megasquid> rivanvx: hmm... not that I see
[07:55] <vbgunz> bruce89: maybe
[07:55] <tamago> Heya guys, are there any issues right now with connecting to repositories?
[07:55] <vbgunz> gxine plays fine... totem has problems
[07:55] <bruce89> vbgunz, what kind of card is it?
[07:55] <damo22> fyrestrtr: it sounds like to me that you also had this idea yet failed
[07:55] <vbgunz> nvidia 5600
[07:55] <bruce89> try installing the binary drivers
[07:56] <bruce89> what codec is the video?
[07:56] <fyrestrtr> damo22: I know enough not to think such things.
[07:56] <vbgunz> bruce89: I don't want to cause nv gives me a bigger resolution... nv works just fine with gxine *but* I am trying to use totem and a fresh box and totem colors suck :(
[07:56] <huizar> Hi
[07:57] <bruce89> is it for all videos?
[07:57] <TheGateKeeper> RoninGurl: download one from here: http://www.nomachine.com/
[07:57] <huizar> i looking a client fot yahoo
[07:57] <angel> nn svensk hr inne?
[07:57] <huizar> i looking for :P
[07:57] <knowwho> mm/filemap.c: In function `generic_file_buffered_write':
[07:57] <knowwho> mm/filemap.c:2098: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault
[07:57] <knowwho> any idea?
[07:57] <tamago> hi guys, anyone know about issues with synaptic connecting to repositories?
[07:58] <bruce89> tamago, which mirror
[07:58] <cica> guy's having VPN troubles... Can anyone PLEASE help? :-D
[07:58] <TheGateKeeper> RoninGurl: their client is free but you have to pay for the server don't know if it will work with freenx as the server
[07:58] <bruenig> "If the repos are slow: use a mirror!"
[07:58] <megasquid> anyone know how to get a SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio card working in ubuntu?
[07:58] <tamago> bruce: thats one of the problems, I'm pretty sure its the UK mirror... but synaptic won't let me open the repos dialogue
[07:58] <damo22> fyrestrtr: it is true i have only little idea based on my own experiences, but seems unnecessary to be so blunt
[07:58] <bruce89> tamago, UK is fine for me
[07:59] <Vaded> will ubuntu run on a PC?
[07:59] <tamago> bruce: hmmm
[07:59] <bruenig> Vaded, yes
[07:59] <tamago> it says when I open the repos dialogue that the "repos have been updated, click refresh"
[07:59] <solstice> where can i get  a list of usefull ubuntu related links ?
[07:59] <J-_> i'm having problems installing a lexmark x2330 all in one driver. im getting a Ready: /usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed on status. when i go to print something the state of the job is: stopped: job stopped. I'm running Ubuntu 6.06
[07:59] <bruenig> tamago, open up a terminal and do "sudo apt-get update"
[07:59] <tamago> when I try to the dowloading dialogue comes up... and then dissapears without doing anything..
[07:59] <tamago> okay
[08:00] <bruce89> tamago, i just installed some updates there (edgy)
[08:00] <bruce89> it must be at your end
[08:00] <fyrestrtr> damo22: sometimes, with things as important as disk engineering -- it helps not to leave anything to imagination -- for your own safety ;)
[08:00] <tamago> :~$ sudo apt-get update
[08:00] <tamago> Reading package lists... Done
[08:00] <tamago> is edgy out?#
[08:00] <kaffien> how do i restart samba in ubuntu?
[08:00] <bruenig> tamago, that was all it said?
[08:00] <bruce89> no
[08:00] <harisund> I have a question. What does backport mean? What does it mean when someone backports something from edgy repos into dapper because it is newer?
[08:00] <tamago> that was all
[08:00] <fyrestrtr> tamago: no
[08:00] <NsOmNiAc> how can you tell apt not to use the CD and get it from remote repositorys ?
[08:00] <harisund> kaffien: sudo invoke-rc.d samba restart
[08:00] <bruenig> tamago, there is something wrong with your sources.list
[08:00] <kaffien> thx
[08:01] <fyrestrtr> NsOmNiAc: comment out the first entry in /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:01] <bruenig> !sources
[08:01] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:01] <NsOmNiAc> thanks fyrestrtr
[08:01] <rindolf> Hi all.
[08:01] <rindolf> How do I display my current xkb configuration?
[08:01] <tamago> I don't think my sources.list is at fault, it was working fine. I'm figuring its connection issues
[08:01] <tamago> I'm on holiday using a wireless connection...
[08:01] <bruce89> NsOmNiAc, i think you just have to disable the cd
[08:01] <Ropechoborra> I got an scanner problem, i run xsane and says "no devices aviable" run sudo xsane and it worked, then i closed it and run it again with sudo xsane and says "no device aviable" again... what could it be?
[08:01] <tamago> can NAT mess up apt?
[08:01] <damo22> fyrestrtr: for my own safety? lol ... okay
[08:02] <J-_> i'm having problems installing a lexmark x2330 all in one driver. im getting a Ready: /usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed on status. when i go to print something the state of the job is: stopped: job stopped. I'm running 6.06
[08:02] <kaffien> harisund, there is no samba script aparently
[08:02] <bruce89> harisund, a backport is when a newer version of something that is in edgy is build for dapper
[08:02] <harisund> kaffien: ok then you don't have Samba installed :)
[08:02] <bruenig> tamago, it seems like sources.list because it would have began trying to download the headers and what not from the repos but been unable
[08:02] <harisund> bruce89: I see. Can anybody do it? Does it require a developer? Any special/technical skills?
[08:02] <tamago> thats what I'm assuming
[08:03] <tamago> bruenig
[08:03] <harisund> kaffien: do you have samba installed? What are you trying to do?
[08:03] <kaffien> im helping a new person through irc
[08:03] <bruce89> harisund, I suppose you could try, but the official backports are all by the official ubuntu developerrs
[08:03] <kaffien> verifying samba install
[08:03] <harisund> Ok...
[08:03] <harisund> thanks bruce89 just curious ...
[08:04] <tamago> huh
[08:04] <tamago> gedit /etc/apt/sources.list is empty
[08:04] <bruenig> tamago, you don't have a sources.list
[08:04] <bruce89> that'll be it then
[08:04] <kaffien> why the heck would there be a /etc/samba/smb.conf but samba not be installed
[08:04] <tamago> yup
[08:04] <fyrestrtr> !easysource > tamago
[08:04] <bruenig> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:04] <kaffien> its clearly not installed
[08:04] <tamago> why the hell I have no idea
[08:04] <kaffien> smbstatus isnt even there
[08:04] <fyrestrtr> kaffien: because, the client uses the same config file (iirc)
[08:04] <bruce89> kaffien, if it was installed previously mabye?
[08:05] <tamago> cheers fyestrtr
[08:05] <ompaul> ttyfscker_, boo
[08:05] <bruenig> !factoids
[08:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about factoids - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:05] <tamago> anyone ever heard of sources.list self-destructing? :P
[08:05] <cica> is there an opposite to apt-get install i.e. apt-get remove ??
[08:05] <harisund> kaffien: couple of reasons. One, you have the samba client (package name: samba-common) which is not a service you can start. Two, the server was installed and instead of being purged, it was just uninstalled.
[08:05] <tamago> I'm guessing user stupidity
[08:05] <J-_> i'm having problems installing a lexmark x2330 all in one driver. im getting a Ready: /usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed on status. when i go to print something the state of the job is: stopped: job stopped. I'm running Ubuntu 6.06
[08:05] <bruce89> cira, yes
[08:05] <damo22> cica yes
[08:06] <ompaul> tamago, yes and yes
[08:06] <cica> I assume it's apt-get remove then ?
[08:06] <bruce89> oops, it's a c not a r
[08:06] <bruce89> yes
[08:06] <damo22> try it
[08:06] <harisund> cica: apt-get uninstall removes the software; apt-get --purge uninstall deletes every single thing including configuration file
[08:06] <bruce89> !apt-get
[08:06] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[08:06] <ompaul> tamago, :-) usually a bad edit
[08:06] <kaffien> probably the client was installed
[08:06] <kaffien> new install  so its a client
[08:06] <damo22> the best way to learn is to play with something until it breaks
[08:06] <kaffien> is the server pack called samba-server?
[08:06] <cica> so it'd be: apt-get --purge uninstall network-manager ??
[08:06] <harisund> I think the client comes with the ubuntu-desktop package. It is used to browse other machines on the network
[08:07] <shwag> i am trying to do an rsync but it just hangs. eventually rsync timesout with error 12 (Error in rsync protocol data stream.)  I dont get it.
[08:07] <harisund> cica if you are sure the package name is that, then yes.
[08:07] <harisund> kaffien: I think it is just called 'samba
[08:07] <cica> harisund: yeah I think it is :-)
[08:07] <harisund> shwag: what command are you using for rsync?
[08:07] <harisund> cica yay!
[08:07] <kaffien> thx
[08:07] <cica> harisund: I'll give it a go and see ;-D
[08:08] <damo22> once you break something, you learn how to fix it because u need it
[08:08] <harisund> kaffien: if you are sharing your computer's files, you might want to install smbfs as well.
[08:08] <kaffien> lol hell no
[08:08] <kaffien> CIFS
[08:08] <harisund> damo22, good philosophy :)
[08:08] <damo22> :)
[08:08] <h3h_timo> could someone help me with a sound problem ive been having?? ive been looking for a few days on how to fix it, but nothing works... The problem is that whenever i boot up ubuntu, sound will work, and it will work till whenever it wants to stop working.. im using snd-hda-intel as my sound driver.. any help please??
[08:08] <bruenig> damo22, likely easier to say you learn by doing
[08:08] <shwag> harisund, /usr/bin/rsync -auvzrC --stats /home/user/ user@machine.domain:/home/user
[08:08] <kaffien> ph wait
[08:08] <kaffien> from  linux to windows  smbfs would be good right?
[08:08] <harisund> kaffien: is there a cifs package in Ubuntu?
[08:08] <kaffien> its not a package its a module
[08:08] <harisund> kaffien: you use fedora, I presume?
[08:09] <harisund> I know.. the file system type .. Ubuntu still uses smbfs
[08:09] <kaffien> ubuntu is an alient world to me
[08:09] <harisund> yes a lot of new OS have done away with smbfs and use cifs instead.
[08:09] <harisund> shwag: hmmm...don't know .. I use rsync through ssh ...
[08:09] <h3h_timo> can anybody help me with my sound problem??
[08:09] <kaffien> so cifs can be used for permissions
[08:10] <J-_> i'm having problems installing a lexmark x2330 all in one driver. im getting a Ready: /usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed on status. when i go to print something the state of the job is: stopped: job stopped. I'm running Ubuntu 6.06
[08:10] <tamago> wow. I don't update for two months and theres 174MB to get
[08:10] <bruenig> tamago, 2 months is nearly how long it has been out
[08:10] <ayano> is there a citrix package out there for ubuntu?  This is my first attempt at ubuntu, and I have to say, so far, great!
[08:10] <harisund> kaffien: cifs has some funny features actually .. when I wanted to share between my FC5 box and Ubuntu box, the CIFS module on FC5 required the username to be the same. In Debian/Ubuntu uid's start from 1000, whereas in FC they start from 500.. I couldn't do it properly for quite a while ..
[08:11] <cica> harisund: cheers dude
[08:11] <shwag> harisund, i add a -v  to the command for verbose.
[08:11] <bruce89> !info citrix
[08:11] <ubotu> Package citrix does not exist in dapper
[08:11] <shwag> harisund, opening connection using rsh -l cvs mymachine.com rsync --server -vvvulogDtprC . /home/httpd/html/
[08:11] <moonunit> i need a newer driver for my ati graphics car
[08:11] <moonunit> card even
[08:11] <harisund> the server you are connecting to shwag, does it have rsync server installed and working properly?
[08:11] <harisund> cica: :D
[08:12] <kaffien> i have a gentoo box and  win2k3 server
[08:12] <ayano> what is !info citrix?
[08:12] <kaffien> how should i share my stuff on linux to windows?
[08:12] <bruenig> samba?
[08:12] <J-_> moonunit: shouldn't really look here, no one helps. been here for 20 minutes, and no one has replied to my query, which is lame.
[08:12] <bruce89> looks up info about a package
[08:12] <kaffien> id like to be able to mod  permissions
[08:12] <acojlo> why is ubuntu so slow on new stable kernels?
[08:12] <h3h_timo> okay... so nobody wants to help me with my sound problem eh?
[08:12] <ayano> it didn't work on my system kaffien...
[08:13] <harisund> kaffien: if you mean linux as in ubuntu linux samba is the simplest.
[08:13] <ayano> Default workstation install plus a few packages
[08:13] <shwag> harisund, found it. old fedora/redhat needs -e ssh specified
[08:13] <wweasel> I have a bit of a problem with wireless.  I have a Broadcom BCM4306, I have it correctly setup, this is a wireless G card, but after a few weeks of usage I looked in the network manager connection information and it reports it as 11Mb/s.
[08:13] <harisund> shwag: ah figured something like that must be going on. Good work!
[08:13] <Linuturk_code> wweasel, is your router G too?
[08:13] <kaffien> hrrrm i somehow have to make samba play nice with the active directory
[08:13] <Linuturk_code> wweasel, also, speed varies with signal strengh
[08:14] <mlowe> does dapper qemu have pre-built kqemu ?
[08:14] <acojlo> is there a name for fancy gnome desktop applets?
[08:14] <damo22> gdesklets
[08:14] <harisund> acojlo, perhas you are looking for gdesklets?
[08:14] <wweasel> Linuturk_code: Yes, my router is G and I have many computers connected usign wireless G. And Signal Strength is reported as 100%, though I know it isn't.
[08:15] <knowwho> mm/filemap.c: In function `generic_file_buffered_write':
[08:15] <knowwho> mm/filemap.c:2098: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault
[08:15] <knowwho> any idea?
[08:15] <acojlo> harisund, bravo! :)
[08:15] <FlimFlamMan__> neutrinomass: on my debian system, when i execute HEAD <url> from the cli, it returns http header information
[08:15] <harisund> :D
[08:15] <tamago> does anyone know a way to limit a applications access to the network if they don't have a setting internally...?
[08:15] <megasquid> anyone know how to get a SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio card working in ubuntu?
[08:15] <Linuturk_code> wweasel, you might want to look into updated drivers for the card. If you know it isn't 100% signal, you can expect it to run slower then advertised G speed
[08:15] <|PhanTom|> hey all.... need help compiling...
[08:15] <tamago> eg, if update-manager is pulling down all my bandwidth, can I limit it?
[08:15] <harisund> |PhanTom|: yep?
[08:16] <bruenig> |PhanTom| what is it you are compiling
[08:16] <wweasel> Linuturk_code: i understand that, but it shouldn't be running at B speed.
[08:16] <|PhanTom|> ok,, tried to compile JTR but get compile errors...think it is related to gcc
[08:16] <node_runner> when trying to boot with my fglrx driver I get the following: Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libGLcore.so
[08:16] <node_runner> dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libGLcore.so: undefined symbol: _mesa_BindVertexArrayAPPLE
[08:16] <node_runner>   ....anyone have any ideas on what I'm missing to provide BindVertexArrayAPPLE?  libgl1-mesa and libgl1-mesa-dri are already the latest versions
[08:16] <neutrinomass> FlimFlamMan__: No idea... try locate HEAD to figure out where HEAD is, and then do dpkg -S path_to_HEAD to figure out where it belongs
[08:16] <TheGateKeeper> kaffien: I am sure I have seen active directory mentioned on the ubuntu wiki site somehwere. THis might be of interest: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[08:16] <Shinzetsu> if I use wget, where does it store the file?
[08:16] <floppyears> hi
[08:16] <Shinzetsu> in the current dir?
[08:16] <harisund> Shinzetsu: in whichever directory you ran it?
[08:16] <floppyears> I have a problem in my local lan
[08:16] <Linuturk_code> wweasel, if the signal is low, yes it should. If you try fast speeds on a choppy signal you get packet loss and an unseable connection
[08:16] <node_runner> shinzetsu: in your cwd
[08:17] <Shinzetsu> okay cool
[08:17] <floppyears> every time the connection between my ubuntu box and the router gets lost the router assigns an ip address that is different than the old one to my machine ?
[08:17] <floppyears> is there a way to have it receive a static ip address ?
[08:17] <Shinzetsu> cos I downloaded something off the net and it said use 'wget <link>' so I right-clicked > open with... wget and it stored it somewhere in /var/, that made me confused
[08:17] <Shinzetsu> but now I know it, thanks :-)
[08:17] <wweasel> Linuturk_code: I am aware of that, but it is running at B speed and reporting 100% signal, when I know I should have ~50% signal and 36-42 Mb/s.
[08:17] <node_runner> just configure a static address on your machine.
[08:18] <wweasel> Linuturk_code: You recommend I search for updated drivers?
[08:18] <node_runner> make sure it's a valid address though.
[08:18] <_w^x_> freevo or myth?
[08:18] <_w^x_> anyone have experiance with the 2?
[08:18] <Linuturk_code> wweasel, yes, I had a card that showed 100% but would drop connection off and on. I found the updated drivers and it worked better.
[08:18] <bruenig> Shinzetsu, the best way to use wget and not be confused is to go to the terminal cd into the director you want to download it into then do "wget url" where url is the download url or sudo wget url if you are doing it in a director that requires root for writing
[08:18] <floppyears> anybody ?
[08:18] <Linuturk_code> wweasel, especially when you are using ndiswrapper for your wireless
[08:19] <ayano> what is the default root password?
[08:19] <JackONeill> Hey my sound is dreaful... I use one of those sblive 5.1 cards... it's too bassy (yes i've tried fiddling with the bass on volume control... no luck)
[08:19] <harisund> !sudo > ayano
[08:19] <bruenig> ayano, there is no root by default
[08:19] <node_runner> there is no default root pw. just use "sudo"
[08:19] <JackONeill> !sblive
[08:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about sblive - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:19] <wweasel> Linuturk_code: Not ndiswrapper, it's using a built in Dapper drivers and I used fwcutter to extract the firmware from a Windows driver.
[08:20] <wweasel> Linuturk_code: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[08:20] <Linuturk_code> was it the most recent windows driver?
[08:20] <TheGateKeeper> floppyears: there are howto's on ubuntu forums for static ip, but you could just do this after restarting your router sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[08:20] <J-_> i'm having problems installing a lexmark x2330 all in one driver. im getting a Ready: /usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed on status. when i go to print something the state of the job is: stopped: job stopped. I'm running Ubuntu 6.06
[08:20] <floppyears> thanks TheGateKeeper
[08:20] <TheGateKeeper> floppyears: yw :-)
[08:21] <JackONeill> If I uninstall OSS and ALSA... will my sound defaults (when reinstalled) return to defaults?
[08:21] <JackONeill> It's a dreadfully bassy atm
[08:21] <wweasel> Linuturk_code: Is there a specific place you recommend looking for updated drivers, or just a good ol' search engine?
[08:21] <JackONeill> It was like this when I installed ubunu
[08:22] <node_runner> does anyone mind posting the md5sum of their /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libGLcore.so ?
[08:22] <bruenig> JackONeill, seems unlikely unless you purge the configuration files that go along with those
[08:22] <Linuturk_code> wweasel, well, start on a ubuntu forum search. if not, google it. otherwise . . . put up with it I guess :/
[08:22] <Linuturk_code> wweasel, see about any settings the broadcom driver has too
[08:23] <bruenig> node_runner, 741d7ba2761097c1a4cef3c67382051f
[08:23] <sith_man> hello, Ubuntu channel. I was wondering how to add a link to my second hard drive(with windows) to my Ubuntu desktop. I found something about it online but it was for NTFS file systems, I have windows 98 and FAT32.
[08:23] <Linuturk_code> wweasel, you might also want to try network manager
[08:23] <Linuturk_code> wweasel, i use it on my laptop
[08:23] <wweasel> Linuturk_code: I am using it.
[08:23] <node_runner> thanks bru. that's different from mine. what version is your libgl1-mesa ?
[08:24] <node_runner> im sorry, your xserver-xorg-core
[08:25] <TBN0lan> does someone have a link to help me install a printer to my linux machine
[08:25] <J-_> !cups
[08:25] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[08:25] <bruenig> TBN0lan, you have tried System>Administration>Printing?
[08:26] <TBNolan> i need to install a printer driver: hpijs
[08:26] <TBNolan> is what my research has shown
[08:26] <aytch> Total newbie question: I opened Synaptic and set a few packages for downloading. But when I try to quit synaptic (well...put it back in the Kpanel, anyway), it tells me that I'll lose my changes.
[08:26] <vikash> ferred application
[08:26] <cica> does anyone know what the following found in dmesg means: "no IPv6 routers present" ?
[08:26] <vikash> when i open preferred application
[08:26] <bruenig> node_runner, as far as your question, I am not sure
[08:27] <moonunit> i need someone to walk me through this install
[08:27] <vikash> it does not open
[08:27] <vikash> it shows error
[08:28] <zipper> On my laptop there is a synaptic touch pad. On its right side it has a scrolling function, however, this does not work properly. Anyone know what i should look for? Already installed ksynaptics, couldnt configure it from that. According to the wiki, it's supposed to be fixed by changing the settings for the synaptics driver, but it doesnt tell how.
[08:28] <bruenig> aytch, if you are in kde perhaps #kubuntu is better
[08:28] <aytch> bruenig: ok, thanks.
[08:28] <moonunit> i need somone to help walk me through this install, im having problems with compiling via gcc
[08:28] <bruenig> I thought kubuntu used adept anyways not synaptic
[08:29] <node_runner> bruenig: apt-cache show xserver-xorg-core
[08:29] <_w^x_> Is freevo in any of the repos?
[08:29] <bruce89> !info freevo
[08:29] <ubotu> Package freevo does not exist in dapper
[08:29] <_w^x_> damn
[08:29] <_w^x_> mythtv?
[08:29] <bruenig> Version: 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[08:29] <AAA> cica  it means you are not using ipv6 don't worry about that error
[08:29] <_w^x_> !info mythtv
[08:29] <ubotu> mythtv: A personal video recorder application (client and server). In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 0.18.1-5ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 17 kB, installed size 64 kB
[08:30] <cica> AAA: what about this one: pcmcia: Detected deprecated PCMCIA ioctl usage.?
[08:30] <cica> AAA: also found indmesg
[08:30] <npster> Can I use Logictech joystick in Xubuntu ?
[08:30] <AAA> cica  hrm.  not sure do you have a pcmcia card in your laptop?
[08:31] <AAA> npster  chances are 99%
[08:31] <npster> AAA: How do I do that
[08:31] <bruenig> npster, I say the chances are a mere 98.6 percent
[08:31] <bruenig> perhaps AAA rounded up, I don't know how he came to 99%
[08:31] <npster> !joystick
[08:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about joystick - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:31] <AAA> npster  most time you just plug it in and it works.  I don't use joysticks though
[08:31] <cica> AAA: yes. the original problem I have is coming from trying to connect using vpn. I'm getting the error(s): Could not attach to driver. Is kernel module loaded? The application was unable to communicate with the VPN sub-system. Any ideas PLEASE?
[08:31] <moonunit> could somone help me install a driver for an ati radeon 7000
[08:32] <npster> ok then I'll try
[08:32] <AAA> cica  hrm.  what VPN client to what VPN server?
[08:33] <sith_man>  hello, Ubuntu channel. I was wondering how to add a link to my second hard drive(with windows 98SE) to my Ubuntu desktop. I found something about it online but it was for NTFS file systems, I have windows 98SE and FAT32. I heard that ubuntu should automatically put a link on your desktop, but mine didn't.
[08:33] <anirban> Hi
[08:33] <cica> AAA: cisco client to work servers
[08:33] <anirban> how can I configure a nameserver
[08:33] <finalbeta> How do I flush dns entries?
[08:33] <bruenig> sith_man, in theory you could mount it to the Desktop
[08:34] <anirban> I registered my domain name and now what changes need to be made in my system
[08:34] <sith_man> bruenig: how?
[08:34] <Baltazar^2> !doman
[08:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about doman - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:34] <Baltazar^2> !domain
[08:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about domain - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:34] <Baltazar^2> !apache
[08:34] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[08:34] <bruenig> sith_man, does it already mount on startup or does it not mount at all?
[08:34] <node_runner> final: your nameserver has a TTL setting which tells clients how long to store the ip in their local cache before fetching a new one. it's based on that.
[08:34] <IAskew> sith_man, what is ur 2nd hard drive called? /dev/hda2?
[08:35] <bruce89> sith_man, a icon on the desktop should appear if it is mounted
[08:35] <usuarioyuya> holaaaaaaaaa
[08:35] <sith_man> its called dev/hdb and dv/hdb1 which one should i use?
[08:35] <TBNolan> you guys might get mad at me for this question, but i've got my printer working in ubuntu, now to network it and be able to print to it from a windows machine :-/ ?
[08:35] <IAskew> sith_man, ln -s /dev/hdb1 while at Desktop
[08:36] <J-_> TBNolan: what kind of printer?
[08:36] <TBNolan> HP C3180
[08:36] <TBNolan> inkjet
[08:36] <AAA> cica  are you suppose to be connecting over ipv6?
[08:36] <sith_man> askew: what will that do?
[08:36] <sharms> can anyone recommend a good time keeping program?
[08:36] <IAskew> if ur device is hdb1 yes
[08:36] <abhinay> what is the keyboard shortcut key for gnome-main-menu ?
[08:37] <bruenig> how do i remove a symbolic link
[08:37] <SurfnKid> AAA, where's the IPv6 implementation?
[08:37] <IAskew> rm
[08:37] <bruce89> bruenig, you just delete it
[08:37] <IAskew> bruenig, rm
[08:37] <Tonren> Hey guys, is there a way to make Nautilus have a "view as thumbnails" option in the "Choose FIle" dialogue?
[08:37] <cica> AAA: no... just trying to connect
[08:37] <AAA> SurfnKid  not sure. he pasted a dmesg error
[08:37] <mif> is there anybody from Poland?
[08:37] <ompaul> !pl
[08:37] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[08:37] <SurfnKid> ah
[08:37] <Subhuman> mif, theres a polish ubuntu support channel
[08:37] <sith_man> !botsnack
[08:37] <ubotu> Yum!
[08:37] <Subhuman> !po
[08:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about po - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:37] <Subhuman> !pl
[08:37] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[08:38] <bruenig> sorry nevermind, I got confused, the link was similar to another directory beside it and I was wondering where it went
[08:38] <J-_> TBNolan: can't you use samba? to set it up? might be wrong, im just a newb
[08:38] <mif> ok thx
[08:38] <cica> !pcmcia
[08:38] <ubotu> I know nothing about pcmcia - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:38] <TBNolan> yeah, i can
[08:38] <AAA> cica  I have never used that software.  -v usually turns on verbosity.  start with making it spit more output at you so you can debug the problem
[08:38] <ompaul> !msgthebot
[08:38] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[08:38] <bruce89> !gb
[08:38] <TBNolan> but i'm even more of a newb- cuz i dunno how to use samba, really
[08:38] <ubotu> Join us for a discussion using the Queen's English in #ubuntu-uk
[08:38] <cica> AAA: i'll try...
[08:38] <TBNolan> but that was advised to me, yes
[08:38] <J-_> !samba
[08:38] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:38] <cica> thanks
[08:38] <TBNolan> tyvm J-_
[08:38] <harisund> cica what are you trying?
[08:38] <bruce89> oops
[08:38] <J-_> no prob
[08:39] <b0ss> http://unsecure-os.net
[08:39] <blade2> I'm trying to set up a wireless card on my laptop. The light comes on the card and flashes like it's trying to pick something up but iwscan can't find anything. Could it be a problem with the driver or my card?
[08:39] <cica> harisund: ./vpnclient connect xxx (any ideas please ?)
[08:39] <lhds> where are the packages downloaded to?
[08:39] <trappist> lhds: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[08:39] <lhds> thanx
[08:39] <harisund> cica, sorry , not familiar ..
[08:39] <harisund> blade2, is your card recognized?
[08:40] <cica> ok thanks
[08:40] <harisund> blade2 what does iwconfig say?
[08:40] <SurfnKid> blade2, iwlist scan what does it return
[08:40] <SurfnKid> blade2, go to network-manager and select an SSID, if none, then there is none around you, but it could also be misconfigured
[08:40] <blade2> I had to load the adm8211 driver to get it recognized, then it's found as eth0 with iwconfig.
[08:41] <blade2> iwscan doesn't return anything for eth0
[08:41] <harisund> blade2 are you sure eth0 is your wireless?
[08:41] <lhds> how to uninstall /var/cache/apt/archives/usplash_0.2-4_i386.deb
[08:41] <blade2> yes, because when I unload the driver it goes away.
[08:41] <harisund> lhds that is not something you uninstall. If you want to remove the usplash package you do 'apt-get --purge uninstall usplash'
[08:41] <Ubuntu_noob> Hello
[08:41] <Boj> does anyone know where I can find inet daemon?
[08:41] <bruce89> lhds, why do you want to uninstall usplash?
[08:41] <harisund> blade2 do you know what essid you want to connect to?
[08:42] <harisund> Boj I don't think it is installed by default on Ubuntu..
[08:42] <lhds> i want to uninstall the latest update
[08:42] <blade2> yes, I tried giving the essid as well as the mac address of my router.
[08:42] <lhds> because it gave me blank screen on a kernel.org kernel
[08:42] <harisund> blade2 how did you give it?
[08:42] <sladen> lhds: just remove 'splash' from the kernel boot commandline
[08:42] <sladen> lhds: you don't need to uninstall anything
[08:42] <blade2> iwconfig eth0 essid my_essid
[08:42] <Ubuntu_noob> i am trying to install ubuntu on an old compaq maching that has amd processors adn it installs then i try to boot and it gets stuck on a black screen with a underscorea t the top right corner can anyone help me?
[08:43] <lhds> i just want to uninstall the latest update /var/cache/apt/archives/usplash_0.2-4_i386.deb
[08:43] <SurfnKid> blade2, sudo iwconfig <adapter> essid <ssid>
[08:43] <harisund> lhds you can go ahead and either remove the 'splash' option from the grub config, or you can remove it all together, though removing it gains you practically nothing more than perhaps a few kilobytes.
[08:43] <harisund> blade2 do you use any encryption?
[08:43] <blade2> I turned it off
[08:43] <ctkt05> im also trying to get my wireless to work... currently im connected to my wireless network, i get an IP through dhcp, i can ping my DNS, but i can not get any internet pages to load
[08:43] <lhds> its not that its that the latest update gave me a blank screen
[08:43] <nUgZ> anyone got a linksys WMP54G v4.0to work with ubuntu
[08:43] <harisund> blade2 and I am guessing you are using DHCP?
[08:43] <sladen> lhds: why specifically the latest update?
[08:43] <blade2> yeah
[08:43] <lhds> hell i dont know
[08:43] <SurfnKid> ctkt05,  can you ping the router ip?
[08:43] <nUgZ> i jst installed linux and cant connect
[08:44] <ctkt05> yes
[08:44] <Ubuntu_noob> can anyone help
[08:44] <lhds> because i have compiled rhe latest kernel's .org
[08:44] <Ubuntu_noob> ?
[08:44] <SurfnKid> what does your  /etc/resolv.conf say
[08:44] <harisund> blade2 so try "sudo iwconfig eth0 mode managed essid <ssid>" and "sudo dhclient eth0" and report back what happens
[08:44] <harisund> ?
[08:44] <regeya> whee
[08:44] <goltsu> hello, I'm using xchat version 2.6.1 - is there any way to hide those "has quit", "has joined", etc. messages?
[08:44] <blade2> okay
[08:44] <ctkt05> i had the same problem with a windows laptop, and in tcp/ip i disabled netbios over tcp/ip and it worked...
[08:44] <nUgZ> anyone got a WMP54G v4.0?
[08:44] <lhds> isnt there a way to remove the changes of a deb package i downloaded with the package downloader installer?
[08:45] <Tonren> Hey guys, is there a way to make Nautilus have a "view as thumbnails" option in the "Choose FIle" dialogue?
[08:45] <SurfnKid> that could be it,  switching to mode managed
[08:45] <SurfnKid> that was my problem once
[08:45] <harisund> lhds what do you mean 'remove the changes'? You could uninstall it or reconfigure it ..
[08:45] <SurfnKid> and it fixed it
[08:45] <Ubuntu_noob> i am trying to install ubuntu on an old compaq maching that has amd processors adn it installs then i try to boot and it gets stuck on a black screen with a underscorea t the top right corner can anyone help me?
[08:45] <nUgZ> im a noob
[08:45] <owen_> I am having problems displaying 3 partitions that are mounted and have entries in the fstab respectively. I want to know how I can modify my Computer File Browser window, so it will display ALL my partitions, not just my NFTS and the core filesystem. The 3 partitions that are not displaying are each 50GB ext3 partitions, /dev/hdb5, /dev/hdb6 , /dev/hdb7, I have tried IRC and another thread, and searched the documents, but I cant find anyt
[08:45] <owen_> hing that can help me solve my problem. I want to be able to display those 3 above ext3 filesystem partitions in the Places > Computer - File Browser window, thanks.
[08:46] <nUgZ> anyone that can help me with setting up my comp to connect to my network PM me plz
[08:46] <ctkt05> im new to still fairly new linux and ubuntu, how do i change the mode to managed
[08:46] <lhds> so ill remove it and than reinstall it with synaptic
[08:46] <bruce89> !usplash
[08:46] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[08:46] <lhds> that will do right?
[08:46] <SurfnKid> ctkt05, sudo iwconfig <adapter> mode managed
[08:46] <ctkt05> i do iwconfig and it says mode:managed a
[08:46] <Boj> !inet
[08:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about inet - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:46] <Ubuntu_noob> i am trying to install ubuntu on an old compaq maching that has amd processors adn it installs then i try to boot and it gets stuck on a black screen with a underscorea t the top right corner can anyone help me?
[08:46] <ctkt05> so it appears to already be managed
[08:46] <cica> trying to run apt-get update and it's trying to go through a proxy I set ages ago. Where is it taking this proxy setting/name from?
[08:46] <harisund> Boj have you enabled universe repos?
[08:46] <SurfnKid> ctkt05, if you want to do adhoc then change it to mode adhoc
[08:47] <lhds> so how can i uninstall a deb package i downloaded with package installer what was the command?
[08:47] <SurfnKid> ctkt05, then you are probably associated and not authenticated to the router
[08:47] <ctkt05> its through a linksys router, not ad-hoc
[08:47] <Ubuntu_noob> I need HELP!
[08:47] <Ubuntu_noob> fdsaf
[08:47] <bit_doidao> can anyone help me installing hula on ubuntu?
[08:47] <SurfnKid> ctkt05, paste me your iwconfig
[08:47] <SurfnKid> ctkt05, PM
[08:47] <nUgZ> howdo i get my wmp54g to connectot my windowsnetwork on an out of the box fresh install?
[08:48] <nUgZ> of linux
[08:48] <bruce89> !wifi
[08:48] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:48] <lhds> ok thanx guys
[08:48] <TheGateKeeper> bit_doidao: you need to enable universe repos
[08:48] <Ubuntu_noob> Can anyone help me install Ubuntu?
[08:48] <harisund> Boj did you enable the unvierse repos?
[08:48] <blade2> harisund: strangely enough, dhclient eth0 caused a kernel panic. you think it's a problem with the driver?
[08:49] <bit_doidao> TheGateKeeper, i already installed. but can login
[08:49] <SurfnKid> Ubuntu_noob, do you have the ISO downloaded?
[08:49] <IAskew> ubuntu-newbie, ask
[08:49] <harisund> whoa blade2 that shouldn't have happened.
[08:49] <moonunit> in need help installing this driver, if you can help, please, please join #moonunit
[08:49] <Boj> No I was wondering, which one I had to do it to
[08:49] <cica> trying to run apt-get update and it's trying to go through a proxy I set ages ago. Where is it taking this proxy setting/name from?
[08:49] <nUgZ> okay i typein my ssid and wep key and i activate the connection buti dont get anywhere
[08:49] <bruce89> !install
[08:49] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[08:49] <harisund> nUgZ are you willing to try the commadn line?
[08:49] <blade2> I see something like adm8211_interrupt
[08:49] <TheGateKeeper> bit_doidao: not familiar with the package sorry you will have to ask someone else :-(
[08:49] <IAskew> arghhhh
[08:49] <harisund> blade2 I am not sure .. I am guessing it could be a bad driver.
[08:49] <trappist> nUgZ: try 'sudo dhclient devicename'
[08:50] <blade2> harisund: I'm using Ubuntu 5.10, is there a way to find out if the driver has been updated in the latest release?
[08:50] <harisund> blade2 no idea ... you can probably ask someone more knowledgeable here..
[08:51] <blade2> thanks.
[08:51] <trappist> blade2: almost everything has been updated since then
[08:52] <blade2> trappist: is there a list to determine for sure whether that specific driver has been updated?
[08:52] <harisund> blade2 as trappist has mentioned pretty much everything has been upgraded.
[08:52] <moonunit> i could really use some help installing this driver, if you can help please join #moonunit
[08:52] <harisund> trappist are you using irssi?
[08:52] <Ubuntu_noob> What is the difference between 5.10 and newest>
[08:52] <cmatheson> monozub: you were right about the path... i changed it to /usr/bin/env ruby and now it works, thanks! (now just to get my db imported)
[08:52] <trappist> blade2: if you can tell me the version you have, I can look it up on my 6.06 system
[08:52] <trappist> harisund: yes
[08:52] <trappist> harisund: why?
[08:52] <fiXXXerMet> Does ubuntu-desktop have a a LVM GUI manager?
[08:53] <harisund> trappist: your replies always started with the handle followed by a ':' and a space.. I have seen irssi do that when you hit the first few letters of the username and hit tab :)
[08:53] <blade2> trappist: let me see...
[08:53] <trappist> harisund: actually a lot of clients (like xchat) do that :)  it's configurable in irssi
[08:54] <TBNolan> can i access a nice little gui of cups?
[08:54] <harisund> oops. then perhaps just a wild guess :)
[08:54] <moonunit> i need help installing a video driver, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221672&highlight=radeon+7000, if you can help then message me or join #moonunit, thanks
[08:54] <trappist> TBNolan: https://localhost:631
[08:54] <trappist> err http://localhost:631
[08:54] <J-_> trappist: i didn't configure it in irssi, and i do it.
[08:55] <trappist> J-_: yeah it's the default, but it could be configured to be, say, -> instead of :
[08:55] <J-_> cool
[08:56] <SurfnKid> Ubuntu_noob, the difference is that Dapper is better than Breezy and it supports a lot more things and features
[08:58] <bruce89> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes
[08:58] <ctkt05> is there anything similar to 'netbios over tcp/ip' in ubuntu that i can disable?
[08:58] <owen_> If anyone can take a look at the problem I am having with the Places > Computer - File Browser , with it not displaying all my partitions correctly @ http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=233898 , any help would be appreciated, thanks.
[08:58] <Subhuman> ctkt05, no
[08:59] <Icemasta> I am willing to share Cedega 5.2.1 for free
[08:59] <Icemasta> Can I share it in here?
[08:59] <trappist> Icemasta: no.
[09:00] <TBNolan> can anyone give me a crash course on samba sharing my printer?
[09:00] <trappist> Icemasta: it's illegal and unwelcome here.
[09:00] <Icemasta> Ok, sorry
[09:00] <Icemasta> Anyone working for cedega in here?
[09:00] <Icemasta> WEll
[09:00] <Icemasta> Transgaming
[09:00] <trappist> Icemasta: I'm pretty sure you're in the wrong channel.
[09:00] <bruce89> it's called WINE
[09:01] <Icemasta> Ok, nevermind
[09:01] <ctkt05> any idea why i can ping everything inside my network, and i can even ping my ISP's DNS server, but i can not ping or access any outside internet pages?
[09:01] <Icemasta> I love you all and good bye
[09:01] <TheGateKeeper> TBNolan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[09:01] <TBNolan> you're gorgeous, TheGateKeeper
[09:01] <trappist> ctkt05: grep nameserver /etc/resolv.conf - is your isp's dns server there?
[09:02] <TheGateKeeper> TBNolan: steady on :-)
[09:02] <ctkt05> trappist: yes, its there
[09:02] <finalbeta> ctkt05, gateway not set? Would explain lacol lan but not external
[09:02] <trappist> ctkt05: what does `grep hosts /etc/nsswitch.conf` say
[09:03] <TheGateKeeper> TBNolan: a bit of light reading lol http://samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/
[09:03] <ctkt05> hosts:   files dnsmdns
[09:03] <trappist> ctkt05: there's no space between dns and mdns?
[09:03] <TBNolan> haha, thanks for the documentation, GateKeep
[09:03] <blade2> trappist: modprobe -V adm8211 should module-init-tools version 3.2-pre7
[09:03] <blade2> s/should/shows
[09:04] <trappist> blade2: I think that's just the version of modprobe
[09:04] <g-unit> Been trying to configure ldap-auth, but "getent passwd <userid>" returns no data from a known userid on my ldap server. Any help is appreciated.
[09:04] <trappist> blade2: if it's a kernel driver, it has almost certainly been updated
[09:04] <blade2> trappist: ah...
[09:04] <ctkt05> trappist: yes, there is a space, my fault on the typo
[09:04] <moonunit> i need help installing a driver for my ati radeon 7000
[09:04] <trappist> g-unit: grep passwd nsswitch.conf
[09:04] <bruce89> !ati
[09:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:04] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys I just fresh installed ubuntu (again) and have now realized that my ati card is doing direct 3d or whatever its called, although im only getting a resolution of 1024x768... I wish to use 1280x1024 i wonder if anyone knows how to just implemnt this change
[09:05] <blade2> trappist: okay, I'll try using 6.06 then. thanks
[09:05] <bruce89> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:05] <TheGateKeeper> TBNolan: you are most welcome hope it proves usefull :-)
[09:05] <g-unit> trappist: Oops, thought that was done by the script. Let me check.
[09:05] <trappist> ctkt05: give me an example of something you'tr trying to ping that's not working
[09:05] <bruce89> Paddy_EIRE, Paddy_EIRE
[09:05] <Boj> Paddy, you have to edit your xorg.conf or try to reconfigure your xserver.
[09:05] <bruce89> oops
[09:05] <TBNolan> if my printer works for all my windows housemates, you'll be expecting a gift basket in the mail, TheGateKeeper
[09:05] <bruce89> Paddy_EIRE, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:05] <NemesisUK> Paddy_EIRE, aticonfig --resolution=0,1280x1024 or whatever you want
[09:05] <ctkt05> anything outside my network and outside my ISP's dns... google, yahoo, msn, etc...
[09:06] <Paddy_EIRE> so will this also take effect on my login window
[09:06] <NemesisUK> yes
[09:06] <trappist> ctkt05: what does ping say when you try
[09:06] <bruce89> Paddy_EIRE, yes
[09:06] <ctkt05> i mentioned earlier, i had this same exact problem with a windows laptop and i disabled LMHOSTS lookup and netbios over tcp/ip and it solved the problem
[09:07] <ctkt05> trappist: it says ping: unknown host www.google.com
[09:07] <[Ex0r] > any photoshop/gimp gurus ?
[09:07] <trappist> ctkt05: /etc/hosts is the linux equivalent of lmhosts - possibly you have a problem in there?
[09:08] <trappist> ctkt05: and, is there anything *besides* your isp's nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf?
[09:08] <npster> What Linux should I use on 32MB RAM ?
[09:08] <ctkt05> nope, just the nameserver
 where do i type this aticonfig --resolution=0,1280x1024
[09:08] <Boj> Are there any viruses on Ubuntu?
[09:08] <ctkt05> what type of problem might i have with my /etc/hosts
[09:08] <trappist> Boj: no
[09:08] <ardchoille> I'm thinking of running apache web server on a PII (Ubuntu 6.06.1LTS). How much of a speed decrease would I see doing this?
[09:08] <bruce89> bruce89, nowhere
[09:09] <bruce89> oops
[09:09] <brandon_> if i want to change permissions on folders, what's the switch for that? is it -d or if?
[09:09] <trappist> ctkt05: I dunno, maybe a bogus entry that prevents it from getting parsed right
[09:09] <bruce89> Paddy_EIRE, nowhere
[09:09] <ctkt05> trappist: in my hosts file it shows up with 127.0.0.1 localhost unknown and then 127.0.1.1 unknown
[09:09] <trappist> bruce89: no special switch for directories, unless you mean you want to do it recursively, in which case -R
[09:09] <ctkt05> unknown is the name of my SSID
[09:09] <ardchoille> bruce89: chmod for folders and files
 well the why did u tell me to do aticonfig --resolution=0,1280x1024
[09:09] <g-unit> trappist: You're correct, the configure script didn't edit nsswitch.conf. Thanks for the reminder.
[09:09] <knowwho> ~$ sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:09] <knowwho> Reading Package Lists... Done
[09:09] <knowwho> Segmentation faulty Tree... 69%
[09:10] <knowwho> any idea?
[09:10] <trappist> ctkt05: can you ping 64.233.167.99
 oops wasnt u
[09:10] <bruce89> Paddy_EIRE, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
 what do i do with this aticonfig --resolution=0,1280x1024
[09:10] <ctkt05> trappist: destination host unreachable
[09:11] <trappist> ctkt05: so it seems you have a routing problem between you and the rest of the world, not just a dns issue
[09:11] <trappist> ctkt05: route -n | grep ^0
[09:11] <sith_man> anyone know how to mount a second hard drive to your desktop? cause i dont
 i get a blue screen with a bunch of options that i dont want to touch!  such as keyboard layout and kernal frame buffer and the like i dont know what these are
[09:11] <bruce89> Paddy_EIRE put it in the terminal
[09:11] <trappist> Paddy_EIRE: just hit enter
[09:12] <bruce89> is there a better way of configuring resolution?
[09:12] <JackONeill> !bochs
[09:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about bochs - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:12] <JackONeill> !boch
[09:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about boch - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:12] <tuxtux> ciao
[09:12] <ctkt05> trappist: i get this back....  0.0.0.0      192.168.0.1       UG      0      0      0  eth1
 i dont want to have my machine wrecked again then have to reinstall agin
[09:12] <foufou> how to recover a deleted file with 'rm -f file'
[09:13] <trappist> ctkt05: is 192.168.0.1 the correct default gateway for you?  is that a router or machine you control?
[09:13] <trappist> foufou: what kind of filesystem
[09:13] <ctkt05> trappist: yes, thats my router
[09:13] <ctkt05> and default gateway
[09:13] <trappist> ctkt05: the problem is apparently on your router
[09:13] <trappist> ctkt05: I assume you can ping it
[09:13] <vandenoever> hi, i've installed the fresh dapper
[09:13] <foufou> trappist, ext3
[09:13] <ctkt05> yes
[09:13] <vandenoever> now i'm trying to get my wireless running
[09:13] <bruce89> Paddy_EIRE, the only setting you have to change is the resolutions
[09:13] <trappist> foufou: it might be possible on ext3, but it's a big involved process.  there's not an 'undelete'.
[09:13] <bruce89> the rest of them, just press enter
[09:14] <sith_man> :-/  how to mount a second hard drive to desktop?
[09:14] <trappist> ctkt05: but you can't ping *through* it, and you can't resolve hostnames through it
[09:14] <vandenoever> the card module is loaded
[09:14] <sith_man> !mount
[09:14] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[09:14] <vandenoever> ubuntu says the card is active, but it's not...
 whats 128 mb in kb
[09:14] <thelsdj> anyone had problem where mouse randomly stops being able to click? switching virtual desktops with keyboard resets it
[09:14] <trappist> ctkt05: so it's failing to route your traffic
its asking the size of my video card memory now???
[09:15] <bruce89> Paddy_EIRE, don't put any number in there
[09:15] <ctkt05> it seems that way
[09:15] <trappist> thelsdj: I get a problem where every click tries to double-click.  very obnoxious.
it will find itself?
[09:15] <bruce89> yes
[09:15] <trappist> ctkt05: what's the ip address of the box you're on?
[09:15] <VikashTiwari_> guys i have big problem
[09:15] <ctkt05> im using 192.168.0.2 for this machine, and the ubuntu machine is 192.168.0.5
[09:15] <VikashTiwari_> size of  %gconf.xml.tree is 0
[09:15] <Emon> Hello
[09:16] <ph> hello all
[09:16] <trappist> ctkt05: oh yeah i meant the ubuntu machine, which obviously isn't the box you're on :)
[09:16] <foufou> trappist, any document there
[09:16] <VikashTiwari_> thats why ekiga and preferred app is not opening
[09:16] <trappist> ctkt05: do you have vmware installed?
[09:16] <VikashTiwari_> plz help
[09:16] <Emon> I'm having some trouble setting APT configuration variables. I do this, for example: sudo apt-config -o APT::Periodic::Update-Package-Lists=1      and nothing happens. It just shows the --help page.
[09:16] <ph> Suppose i have a new .ttf (truetype font file) and want to install it.how do i do this?
[09:16] <thelsdj> trappist: hehe, mine is even more annoying if i'm using remote desktop which doesn't pass ctrl+alt+left/right to gnome so i can't switch virtual desktops to fix it, have to switch to console, login, kill remote desktop then switch back
[09:16] <ctkt05> no clue, still new to ubuntu and trying to get the net work
[09:16] <trappist> foufou: google will tell you
[09:16] <bruce89> ph
[09:16] <VikashTiwari_> anybody knows how to
[09:16] <bruce89> goto
[09:16] <bruce89> fonts:///
[09:16] <trappist> ctkt05: you don't, then.  you'd know.
[09:17] <ph> fonts:/// ??
[09:17] <MetaMorfoziS> where is the apt-get cache? where it downloads the packages? (I'm updated my box "a", - id downloaded ~150megs, and i want to copy that 150megs to box b)
[09:17] <trappist> ctkt05: can you verify that your ip address is what you think it is?
[09:17] <VikashTiwari_> problem related to gconf
[09:17] <trappist> ctkt05: sometimes you hit a rogue dhcp server and get some whacky ip address that screws everything up
 how do i choose resolution?? if i press enter it goes to next screen what do i press to choose one
[09:17] <ctkt05> yes, it is, ifconfig shows it as .5, i can ping .5 and even my dhcp table in the router shows it as .5
[09:17] <VikashTiwari_> size of %gconf.xml.tree is 0 byte
[09:17] <VikashTiwari_> size of %gconf.xml.tree is 0 byte
[09:17] <thelsdj> MetaMorfoziS: /var/cache/apt/
[09:17] <trappist> ctkt05: well it's pretty close to 100% that it's your router, then
[09:18] <ctkt05> hmm
[09:18] <MetaMorfoziS> ! hank you! TheGateKeeper
[09:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about hank you! TheGateKeeper - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:18] <MetaMorfoziS> thelsdj:
[09:18] <MetaMorfoziS> :
[09:18] <MetaMorfoziS> :D
[09:18] <VikashTiwari_> size of %gconf.xml.tree is 0 byte
[09:18] <ctkt05> whats the command to release and renew the ip?
[09:18] <VikashTiwari_> plz
[09:18] <VikashTiwari_> help
[09:18] <sith_man> ok, i mounted my second hard drive to my desktop,. will it stay or do i have to mount it evertime i reboot?
[09:18] <trappist> ctkt05: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
 how do i choose resolution?? if i press enter it goes to next screen what do i press to choose one this is while in xorg.conf (the blue screen)
[09:19] <fyrestrtr> sith_man: to make it stay, add it to /etc/fstab
[09:19] <sith_man> what command?
[09:19] <bruce89> ph, in nautilus, press Control+L
[09:19] <bruce89> then put in fonts:///
[09:19] <fyrestrtr> you have to add a mount entry for it in /etc/fstab so the system can mount it at boot. Read man mount to find out the format of /etc/fstab
[09:20] <VikashTiwari_> size of %gconf.xml.tree is 0 byte
[09:20] <Emon> Does anyone know why I can't seem to set APT configuration variables with something such as the following? "sudo apt-config -o APT::Periodic::Update-Package-Lists=1"   all it does is return the --help page
[09:20] <ctkt05> no luck, it gave me .6, but still not able to ping outside past the router... other than the DNS
[09:20] <VikashTiwari_> ekiga is showing error
[09:20] <sith_man> !man mount
[09:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about man mount - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:20] <Kezer> i have a problem
[09:20] <ayano> How do I change to 64bit encryption on a wireless card...
[09:20] <Roberto_> Good afternoon. My name is Roberto, and I think my Ethernet card is running like two or three times slower than it should. I am running Ubuntu 6, and the card is D-Link DFE-520TX. It should download at 120kbps, but it is only performing at 40kbps. I think it might be because the speed_duplex is not set to 2. Any help?
[09:20] <Zyclop> is there a way to tunnel audio autput via ssh?
 im on the screen what do i use to choose to put the * next to 1280x1024 it just goes on without change if i press enter
[09:21] <Zyclop> Paddy: try pressing space
[09:21] <VikashTiwari_> heu buddies i am in a big problem .. today i installed dapper drake ..then update manager showed me to update packages   its around 180 mb
[09:21] <VikashTiwari_> i updated
[09:21] <Kezer> i setup windows after ubuntu then i can't see "GRUB" and cant choose to ubuntu or linux.. what do i have to do
[09:21] <VikashTiwari_> then ekiga is not opening
[09:21] <bruce89> Paddy_EIRE scroll up to the one with 1280x1024, and press space
[09:21] <VikashTiwari_> it is showing error in gconf
[09:21] <ken_> any1 got a AC97 sound card?
[09:21] <fyrestrtr> Roberto_: use mii-tool to see what its conencted as.
[09:22] <ctkt05> trappist: any other ideas?
[09:22] <Kezer> is there anyone who can help me about it
[09:22] <ardchoille> VikashTiwari_: If anyone has an answer for you, they'll respond. There's no need to repeat your question every few minutes.
[09:22] <fyrestrtr> !patience
[09:22] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:22] <VikashTiwari_> do u have
[09:22] <J-_> what drive should i use  with my lexmark x2330 all in one?
[09:22] <J-_> driver
 why couldnt they have written that in there instead of having to surf to find out that simple instruction
[09:22] <ken_> got problem with my AC97 sound card, any1 can help?
[09:22] <Zyclop> Kezer: windoze f###ed up your MBR, you'll have to use a live CD to reinstall Grub
[09:22] <ctkt05> what are some other linux/ubuntu irc channels?
[09:23] <Dromen> how do i find out which is my boot partition ??
[09:23] <trappist> ctkt05: yeah, your router :)
[09:23] <diesel> I am trying to get LEAP (Cisco's Lightweight EAP) working with my wireless, but have had no luck.  I have tried to get LEAP working with xsupplicant and wpasupplicant...so I hope someone can help me
[09:23] <trappist> ctkt05: traffic is getting to it, but not through it.
[09:23] <klerfayt> I need utility that extracts bin files
[09:23] <Kezer> Zyclop does it make a data loss?
[09:23] <ardchoille> ctkt05: #kubuntu , #xubuntu , #ubuntu-classroom , ##linux
[09:23] <trappist> klerfayt: if you mean bin/cue files, use bchunk to convert them to .iso and mount the .iso
[09:23] <ctkt05> well its working fine for 6+ other mathines
[09:24] <ctkt05> thanks ardchoille
[09:24] <ardchoille> ctkt05: You're welcome :)
[09:24] <Zyclop> Kezer: it shouldn't, but you never know
[09:24] <Kezer> thank you thank you so much
[09:24] <Kezer> i am triyng
[09:24] <vandenoever> ok network works now, i needed to reboot :-p
[09:25] <klerfayt> trappist: where can I get bchunk?
[09:25] <Roberto_> Fyrestrtr: mii-tool reports the following: "eth0: negotiated 10baseT-HD, link ok"
[09:25] <uwo> hi all - something is blocking sound device - how do i find out what and kill it?
[09:25] <daxxar> What's up with my ubuntu-server randomly switching the interfacename of my NIC? I add a new nic (only had eth0 previously), boot it. Nic comes up as eth1. I configure eth1, do some changes to /etc/modprobe.d/, reboot. It now calls it eth2. I reboot again; same. I hook it up to a monitor, edit /etc/network/interfaces and add a definition for eth2. Shut it down, move it over to the location, and now when I boot it calls it eth1 again. :o
[09:25] <trappist> klerfayt: sudo apt-get install bchunk
[09:25] <daxxar> And there're only two network devices in the machine.
[09:25] <trappist> daxxar: fix up /etc/iftab
[09:25] <fyrestrtr> Roberto_: means its not connected at 100Base-T not 10Base-T, which would explain the slowness.
[09:26] <Zyclop> daxxar: ah, the joy of 2 NICs :)
[09:26] <fyrestrtr> Roberto_: whoops, got those two reversed, but you know what I mean. Its connected at 10Base-T not 100Base-T, which is why its slow.
[09:26] <daxxar> trappist, thanks. But why would it start using eth2 and eth0, while not having any eth1? :p
[09:27] <trappist> daxxar: I don't know, but it happened to me on my laptop when I switched motherboards
[09:27] <Roberto_> Fyrestrtr: That explains it then. Is there a way to set it to the right mode/setting? I notice that in the card CD comes a driver for Linux kernel 2.6, but when I try to compile that I get a kernel not found error. What do you recommend?
[09:27] <Ayavaron> I feel like I'm rude asking for help from a stranger like this, but I'm trying to get a LiveCD that I can use at my school for the yearbook team. The open-source programs we need don't tend to run nicely on Macs. The windows computers are going to be in use by the School's newspaper team that period and the only solution I can think of that seems bearable is to make a LiveCD that has the programs I need already on it. Ubuntu seems
[09:27] <Ayavaron> Wow. That was an oversized message.
[09:27] <daxxar> trappist, mkay. Thanks a lot. :)
[09:28] <klerfayt> trappist: file name is CD1.bin how do I convert it to iso?
[09:28] <Emon> Does anyone know why I can't set APT configuration variables? I'm using proper syntax, but apt-config only returns the --help page instead.
[09:28] <trappist> klerfayt: did it come with a .cue file?
[09:28] <Zyclop> Ayavaron: try this: http://wiki.debian.org/?LiveCD
[09:28] <signature16> is wireless fairly easy to setup on ubuntu? i cant seem to do it on fedora or gentoo
[09:28] <hid3> Good evening. Anyone using Adaptec 2940u (AIC-7895) SCSI controller?
[09:28] <Ayavaron> @Zyclop:
[09:28] <Ayavaron> Thanks. I'll try that out.
[09:29] <vikash> Ekiga got an invalid value for the GConf key "/apps/ekiga/general/gconf_test_age".
[09:29] <vikash> It probably means that your GConf schemas have not been correctly installed or the that permissions are not correct.
[09:29] <vikash> Please check the FAQ (http://www.ekiga.org/), the troubleshooting section of the GConf site (http://www.gnome.org/projects/gconf/) or the mailing list archives for more information (http://mail.gnome.org) about this problem
[09:29] <bigman32> We are about to load ubuntu onto a lot of computers that will be going to surplus, and they will be given to citizens of a particual state. But the lawyers got involved so i need to find any language that states it's ok for a commerical entity to install the OS. Any ideas?
[09:29] <vikash> i got this error while opening ekiga
[09:29] <daxxar> Is the best way of disabling ipv6 by doing "alias net-pf-10 off" in /etc/modprobe.d/bad_list
[09:29] <Zyclop> is it possible to tunnel audio output via ssh?
[09:29] <daxxar> ?
[09:29] <lnx^> oi
[09:29] <klerfayt> trappist: I don't understand? it's name is cd1.bin
[09:29] <lnx^> is anyone here using ati remote wonder II?
[09:30] <lnx^> i've got it to work fine under ubuntu with one major exception
[09:30] <lnx^> i'd like to be able to turn on/off the monitor with it
[09:30] <lnx^> the monitor's got an own remote but i'd like to only use the remote wonder one
[09:30] <tjb891> when I run audacity after i am getting audio of of flash player (not amarok) it does not allow me to record, when i record with audacity and then go to a flash site with sound  then flash will not play sound, what is wrong?
[09:30] <lnx^> does anyone have an idea what i could do to accomplish that?
[09:31] <bruce89> audacity has never worked
[09:31] <Emon> ah, nevermind, I fixed it it seems
[09:31] <vikash> Ekiga got an invalid value for the GConf key "/apps/ekiga/general/gconf_test_age".
[09:31] <bruce89> apparently, it is fixed by doing gksudo audacity
[09:31] <vikash> anybody knoes it
[09:31] <vikash> knows
[09:31] <vikash> what
[09:31] <bruce89> but that didn't work for me
[09:31] <dyoz> alguien habla espanol?
[09:31] <dyoz> ?? espanol
[09:31] <bruce89> !es
[09:31] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:32] <Roberto_> Dyoz: Yo hablo espanol, pero no se mucho de Ubuntu.
[09:32] <nUgZ> swatted
[09:32] <lhds> how to know what version of x.org am i running?
[09:32] <sith_man> for fstab, how do i mount FAT32 filesystems? im reading the manual but it doesn't mention FAT32
[09:32] <marlene> Good evening all...
[09:32] <wormdevil> hello, can anyone help me on a install issue?
[09:32] <sith_man> i have a second hdd  w/win98 on it
[09:33] <bruce89> wormdevil, what is it
[09:33] <gr33npho3nix> anybody know where standby and hibernate might have gone to from ym logoff menu
[09:33] <nUgZ> can someone help me with my wireless network issue?
[09:33] <tjb891> can anyone tell me what gksudo means
[09:33] <gr33npho3nix> nUgZ: whats wrong
[09:33] <wormdevil> im installing remotely over KVM over ip
[09:33] <bruce89> it's like sudo, but graphical
[09:33] <wormdevil> its on configuring apt
[09:33] <wormdevil> %100
[09:33] <tjb891> ok, thx
[09:33] <wormdevil> scanning the security
[09:33] <wormdevil> repository
[09:33] <wormdevil> but its stuck
[09:33] <wormdevil> been like this for 5-10 mins
[09:34] <wormdevil> is it normal for it to take long?
[09:34] <BobSongs> I'm looking for a screen capture software to capture mouse movements and all, not just a screen capture of still shots. Is there anything in the repositories? I've looked and haven't seen anything. Has anyone used such a package? Or, if someone is aware of something over at SoureForge that would be cool.
[09:34] <wormdevil> because i pay for every hour of kvm
[09:34] <bruce89> i don't know
[09:34] <TheGateKeeper> tjb891: runs an application with admin privilages
[09:34] <spc> I need help removing apache2-default directory from /var/www.  I tried some command line ..err, commands, after not being able to do it through the file browser.  But I'm just not knowledgeable about the command line yet I guess.
[09:34] <tjb891> ok
[09:34] <bruce89> i only installed it the usual way
[09:34] <tjb891> thx
[09:34] <Backeman> Is it hard to set up VNC?
[09:34] <spc> BobSongs: I read something on an "ubuntu blog" yesterday, I'll look for the link for you.
[09:34] <Curtman> Does anyone know how I can change the label of a ext3 partition?   The e2label man page says it works on ext2 or ext3, but all it says when I try is "e2label: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/hda2. Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock."
[09:34] <tjb891> why can't i just say sudo audacity, why do i have to say gksudo?
[09:35] <bruce89> it's best to use gksudo for graphical apps
[09:35] <tjb891> ok
[09:35] <spc> BobSongs: of course, it was command line.  I'm thinking about trying to write a gui for it, but nobody hold your breath... :)
[09:35] <BobSongs> spc, Many thanks. Sometimes it helps when someone asks how some basic things are done. Sending an AVI file makes so much sense.
[09:35] <spc> Backeman: I haven't had much trouble setting up VNC. I blogged about it some at randompattern.wordpress.com.  What specifically do you want to do?
[09:35] <Lattyware> Hey all, how can I get a standard USB sotrage device (SDcard usb reader with card in) to mount in Ubuntu?
[09:35] <trappist> klerfayt: `file cd1.bin`
[09:36] <ardchoille> BobSongs: You might wanna check out istanbul
[09:36] <ardchoille> !info istanbul
[09:36] <ubotu> istanbul: Desktop session recorder. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1-3ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 65 kB, installed size 344 kB
[09:36] <BobSongs> spc, Command-line works for me. I wouldn't be an Ubuntu user if I hated the terminal. ;)
[09:36] <bigman32>  We are about to load ubuntu onto a lot of computers that will be going to surplus, and they will be given to citizens of a particual state. But the lawyers got involved so i need to find any language that states it's ok for a commerical entity to install the OS. Any ideas?
[09:36] <Lattyware> Ah, scratch that, did it automaticaly :P
[09:36] <lilbit> I have an off topic question - how can I get IP telephony between a couple of offices the cheapest way possible
[09:36] <BobSongs> ardchoille, Istanbul? Kewl! Thanks. I'll look into it.
[09:36] <Backeman> spc: well. Just be able to connect to my server's desktop, Its connected to the same screen as the "main computer" at my place which are often busy.
[09:36] <tjb891> I get the error message PaHost_OpenStream: could not open /dev/dsp for O_RDONLY
[09:36] <tjb891> PaHost_OpenStream: ERROR - result = -10000
[09:36] <tjb891>  , in the console when i try to record flash sound
[09:36] <harisund> Hello! What are the equivalents of the 'kernel headers' package if my kernel is compiled from a kernel.org source??
[09:36] <lilbit> I have an off topic question - how can I get IP telephony between a couple of offices the cheapest way possible - I would only need to call between the 2 offices, not to outside entities
[09:37] <spc> Backeman: you just want terminal access, or full desktop?
[09:37] <jackson> is there any way (preferably in GParted) to move partitions from one hard drive to another?
[09:37] <klerfayt> trappist: CD1.bin: data
[09:37] <Backeman> spc: full desktop, already got ssh-access.
[09:37] <fyrestrtr> bigman32: do you mean, is it okay for a commerical entity to install and charge for it, or install it?
[09:37] <cdubya> anyone know of a good graphical scp client? I'm looking for something a little more like ftp......
[09:38] <trappist> klerfayt: seems like it was supposed to have been accompanied by a .cue file
[09:38] <fyrestrtr> cdubya: for windows, winscp -- for gnome, places > connect to server...
[09:38] <cdubya> fyrestrtr, k
[09:38] <bigman32> just install it, the computer might sell for a price, but it's only the hardware price not the software price, were actually removing WIN and putting U on it
[09:38] <Curtman> lilbit: Use Ekiga, it's free.  All you need is the headset, and an ISP. http://www.gnomemeeting.org/
[09:38] <marlene> can anyone help me with  my GRUP config ? I want to raise the resolution from the standard one up to 1024x768 ... I found the section to put it in but what is the integer or hex value to the res I want ?
[09:38] <spc> Backeman: what I did is (detailed on my blog) but basically go turn on remote desktop on Ubuntu, then use a vncviewer.  It's pretty simple.
[09:38] <fyrestrtr> bigman32: yes, its legal for you to install it, because the license doesn't prohibit it.
[09:38] <BobSongs> ardchoille, Istanbul it is. Excellent. Thanks for the quick response, everyone.
[09:39] <ardchoille> BobSongs: Yeah, that is a nice app :)
[09:39] <Backeman> spc: okey, I'll try. thanks!
[09:39] <harisund> Hello! What are the equivalents of the 'kernel headers' package if my kernel is compiled from a kernel.org source?? has anyone here compiled their own kernel?
[09:39] <spc> BobSongs: here's the link: http://swik.net/Ubuntu/Ubuntu+Blog/How+to+Create+a+Screencast+in+Ubuntu/ersc
[09:39] <fyrestrtr> lilbit: there is a device that can do just that, its a voip server in a box. You just connect a regular phone to it, and it has a POTS backup.
[09:39] <zoomy> okay.. why can't I find gnome-desktop-environment when I search for it using apt-cache search???  sources.list includes universe???
[09:39] <bigman32> Oh i agree but is there language i can reference?
[09:39] <cmatheson> openoffice keeps loading an excel document i have as an html file... is there a way to override that?
[09:39] <wormdevil> Wow this install is taking ages!!!
[09:39] <wormdevil> :(
[09:40] <fyrestrtr> bigman32: hrmm, you could quote the entire text of the GPL, or simply -- email canonical and ask them for a letter on their official letterhead stating the same.
[09:40] <TheGateKeeper> spc: how about turning your blog on vnc to a howto, if the static ip is easy I am sure people would appreciate knowing how to do it?
[09:40] <spc> ardchoille: thanks!
[09:40] <marlene> Hello?? someone here who can help me with Grup ?
[09:40] <elmargol> Hi, I'm reading a procmail howto atm they use dmail. Maybe you know an other tool? dmail is on universe only :(
[09:40] <sith_man> can someone tell me the command to mount  a FAT32 , windows 98 hard driv, at startup, using fstab?
[09:40] <zoomy> okay.. Anyone know why can't I find gnome-desktop-environment when I search for it using apt-cache search???  sources.list includes universe???
[09:40] <spc> TheGateKeeper: I'm pretty new - how to do that?  I'd like to start contributing to documentation.
[09:41] <fyrestrtr> sith_man: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[09:41] <sith_man> thanks again fyrestrtr
[09:41] <bigman32> thanks, i'll e-mail them. I was trying to avoid the whole GPL for our lawyers. They take a long time as it is. The letterhead idea would be the easiest to get through
[09:41] <Kezer> Ztclop
[09:41] <bigman32> any ideas on the e-mail address to use?
[09:41] <spc> all, I'm trying to get wordpress set up locally, but running into a problem.  How to get /var/www/apache2-default out of the way so I can run phpmyadmin and set up a database?
[09:42] <harisund> How do I get ndiswrapper on 64bit Ubuntu????
[09:42] <fyrestrtr> zoomy: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:42] <Joenin> investigating
[09:42] <TheGateKeeper> spc: there is a howto section in the ubuntu forum, have you got access to a web site?
[09:42] <Kezer> Zyclop: now i am in the live cd. how will i install the grub
[09:42] <Shino_> hello, can anonye tell me if the ubuntu-6.06-server-amd64.iso works also on emt64 processors?
[09:42] <klerfayt> trappist: I will try mountiso
[09:42] <spc> TheGateKeeper: sure do.
[09:42] <spc> a howto section on creating howto's?  :P
[09:43] <harisund> Shino_: I am guessing it will. It won't work on IA64 processors.
[09:43] <Curtman> zoomy: It's there in mine.. Did you try "apt-cache show gnome-desktop-environment" ?
[09:43] <wormdevil> Anyone got a idea on why the install is feckin slow?
[09:43] <trappist> klerfayt: it's not likely to work, but it's worth a shot
[09:43] <fyrestrtr> spc: if you just want to create a database, install mysql-server mysql-client, then run mysql -u root -p (hit enter, then hit enter again when it asks for a password) then at the mysql> prompt, type create database wordpress; grant all on wordpress.* to wp@localhost identified by 'somepass'; -- then your username is wp, your database name is wordpress, and your password is whatever is somepass.
[09:44] <Curtman> zoomy: Or did you just add universe to sources.list, but not apt-get update yet?
[09:44] <zool2005> evenin all
[09:44] <elmargol> noone uses procmail here?
[09:44] <TheGateKeeper> spc: well that's a good place to start, I am not part of the official ubuntu community, but I did throw a little web page together and give it to new people if I think it will help them from time to time :-)
[09:44] <brandon_> is there any way to isolate directories using chmod?
[09:44] <Curtman> Does anyone know how I can change the label of a ext3 partition?   The e2label man page says it works on ext2 or ext3, but all it says when I try is "e2label: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/hda2. Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock."
[09:44] <Shino_> harisund: thx!
[09:45] <Curtman> tune2fs says the same thing.  :(
[09:45] <ardchoille> I'm thinking of running apache web server on a PII (Ubuntu 6.06.1LTS). How much of a speed decrease would I see doing this?
[09:45] <zool2005> mkdir creates folders with 755 permissions, is this the default or should it be 700?
[09:45] <TheGateKeeper> spc: also serves as a good reminder for me too :-)
[09:45] <lilbit> fyrestrtr, tell me more, how do I look it up?
[09:46] <fyrestrtr> brandon_: find -t d -exec 'chmod whatever {}\;' (or something like that)
[09:46] <lilbit> fyrestrtr, how would I google?
[09:46] <fyrestrtr> lilbit: google what?
[09:46] <Kezer> If i lose my GRUB how can i reinstall it.. now i am in live CD
[09:46] <fyrestrtr> !grub
[09:46] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:46] <lilbit> that VOIP server you were saying
[09:46] <fyrestrtr> lilbit: oh, hrmm, just a minute.
[09:46] <wormdevil> Someone help me :(((((((((((((
[09:46] <spc> fyrestrtr: I think I followed that, let me give it a shot...
[09:47] <Kezer> exactly what ' need/// thanks
[09:47] <Curtman> lilbit: Have you tried Ekiga?  If not, you should.
[09:47] <aarohi> i'm on ubuntu and i have the kubuntu cd added to the repository list and i started installing the kubuntu-desktop package through synaptic but unfortunately it starts downloading packages from the internet. i cancelled. what do i do to make it install the kubuntu packages from cd? someone help please. :)
[09:47] <DrFinn> what plugin should I install in order to watch web site clips in mozilla?
[09:47] <soundray> How do I create a DVD .iso from a backup of the files (VIDEO_TS.BUP etc.)?
[09:47] <lilbit> Curtman, no, I will look into it though
[09:48] <aarohi> anyone?
[09:48] <spc> BobSongs: let me know how istanbul works for you.  Did you get the link I sent, just in case?
[09:48] <fyrestrtr> lilbit: www.epygi.com
[09:48] <acojlo> how to remove icons for mounted folders on desktop?
[09:48] <marlene> wormdevil.. did you see the message I just send you ?
[09:48] <spc> wormdevil: what's going on?
[09:48] <wormdevil> marlene no?
[09:48] <wormdevil> if you dont higlight em
[09:48] <bruce89> acojlo, gconf-editor
[09:48] <wormdevil> i cant see them
[09:48] <wormdevil> its too fast for me
[09:48] <soundray> aarohi: temporarily disable the online repos in synaptic
[09:49] <wormdevil> my ubunt install on a server (kvm over ip) is taking ages
[09:49] <wormdevil> its stuck on %100
[09:49] <wormdevil> configuring apt - scanning the secuirity updates
[09:49] <wormdevil> repository
[09:49] <fyrestrtr> !reposdown
[09:49] <ubotu> There are bandwith issues causing problems with security.ubuntu.com (and sometimes archive.u.c) -- please use a mirror
[09:49] <marlene> let me guess it fails
[09:49] <aarohi> soundray: all of them?
[09:49] <wormdevil> how do i continue install:(
[09:49] <bruce89> acojlo, apps>nautilus>desktop, uncheck volumes_visible
[09:49] <cowmilk> i can't get flashplugin-nonfree. pls see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20313
[09:50] <soundray> aarohi: only the online ones. You need the CD ones enabled, of course.
[09:50] <marlene> do you receive an error message like he cant find the updates or stuff?
[09:50] <aarohi> soundray:  now there IS no option for kubuntu-desktop in synaptic
[09:50] <Bicchi> I just got a new machine/server. What is the command to turn the machine off. From the prompt that is.
[09:50] <lilbit> Curtman, thanks
[09:50] <wormdevil> Bicchi: shutdown -h now
[09:50] <lilbit> fyrestrtr, thanks
[09:50] <wormdevil> marlene: was that for me?
[09:51] <searayman> can i have help installing xgl and compiz?
[09:51] <soundray> aarohi: then you haven't got the required packages on the CD.
[09:51] <bruce89> !xgl
[09:51] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:51] <Bicchi> wormdevil: i did "sudo shutdown now" and it when into the root prompt #
[09:51] <wormdevil> try what i said
[09:52] <spc> TheGateKeeper: I saw something just the other day about getting information from the forums to the wiki ... is that what you are talking about?
[09:52] <Samma-728> how do I install wine on an ubuntu computer without internet access?
[09:52] <marlene> wormdevil: yes it was... ;c) did you edit the repositorie file to /etc/apt/sources.list to locations near you ?
[09:52] <aarohi> soundray: its the original kubuntu cd
[09:52] <acojlo> bruce89, ola!
[09:52] <aarohi> there's no chance of that
[09:52] <wormdevil> marlene: I'm installing over KVM i just put in the cd and said install ubuntu
[09:52] <ardchoille> Bicchi: shutdown -h now  for shutdown, -r for reboot
[09:52] <wormdevil> and its stuck :(
[09:52] <DrFinn> hey..what plugins should I install so I can watch movie clips on websites using mozilla?
[09:52] <eugman> I see hoary and warty mentioned in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization Will the instrctions work for dapper?
[09:52] <fyrestrtr> !codecs > DrFinn
[09:52] <bruenig> DrFinn, mozilla-mplayer
[09:52] <searayman> xgl help?
[09:53] <DrFinn> thx
[09:53] <fyrestrtr> !xgl > searayman
[09:53] <soundray> aarohi: then you've probably disabled the CD repo.
[09:53] <bruenig> and flashplugin-nonfree
[09:53] <Samma-728> how do I install wine on a dapper drake computer without internet access
[09:53] <bruenig> for flash videos
[09:53] <BobSongs> spc, Sorry; stepped away from the box. Yep: link received. I'm going to investigate it. Listen: if it proves useful I'll post a HOWTO over at ubuntuforums.org. I've already created one for the Brother MFC-210C printer.
[09:53] <searayman> fyrestrtr: can u help me with xgl?
[09:53] <marlene> wormdevil: oh dear... this is just the same I experianced @ work... but there I know it's a matter of bandwidth... only 2Mbit...
[09:53] <wormdevil> this is 100mbit
[09:53] <bruenig> Samma-728, do you have the wine package?
[09:53] <wormdevil> but its been takinga ges
[09:53] <Samma-728> I don't know which one to download...
[09:53] <fyrestrtr> searayman: probably.
[09:53] <three> has anyone here used Reconstructor yet?
[09:54] <aarohi> soundray: when i only leave the cd repo enabled, then only the ALREADY installed packages appear
[09:54] <wormdevil> how big are the updates?
[09:54] <searayman> fyrestrtr:  how do i check what my graphics card is in terminal?
[09:54] <wormdevil> its been running for ages
[09:54] <wormdevil> 10-25 mins
[09:54] <spc> BobSongs: is there a specific section of the forums?  I'm looking around and not finding what TheGateKeeper was talking about.
[09:54] <fyrestrtr> searayman: lspci -vv | grep VGA
[09:54] <wormdevil> actually 40 mins
[09:54] <soundray> aarohi: have you done an update (click the "Reload" button)
[09:54] <zool2005> should mkdir create directories with 755 permissions by default?
[09:54] <bruenig> Samma-728, if you can download a .deb of the latest wine and then get it to your other computer via disk flash drive or whatever and then you can just install from there
[09:54] <TheGateKeeper> spc: to be honest I don't know how you get stuff onto the official wiki site. The ubuntu forums have a howto section which you can submit howto's and I think if the moderators like them they then appear
[09:54] <aarohi> soundray: yes
[09:55] <ardchoille> spc: I'm in the forums right now, what is your issue?
[09:55] <BobSongs> spc, For my tutorial?
[09:55] <marlene> wormdevil: I know sometimes specialy in the evenings (at least it is evening here) the server are quite fill... so it might be a possibility that the sec server full is or low on bandwidth... in this case I just can sugest to wait...
[09:55] <Samma-728> I downloaded the packages file, but I don
[09:55] <soundray> aarohi: then I don't know, sorry.
[09:55] <Samma-728> t know how to install it
[09:55] <marlene> wormdevil:  sorry I can't really help you further...
[09:55] <wormdevil> so i have to continue paying 45$/hr :D
[09:55] <aarohi> soundray: thanks
[09:55] <searayman> fyrestrtr:  will this card work with xgl+compis? S3 UniChr ome]  Integrated Video (rev 01) (prog-if 00 [VGA] )
[09:55] <bruenig> Samma-728, if it a .deb files just do sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[09:55] <spc> ardchoille: I'm looking for the "HOWTO" on creating howto's from TheGateKeeper .
[09:55] <lhds> what is that gnome software i have to find that can convert -
[09:56] <Samma-728> then I get the packages plain text file, and I don't know how to excecute it
[09:56] <spc> BobSongs: well, I'll keep an eye out for your screencast howto, that's the one I'm interested in.  :)
[09:56] <lhds> what is that gnome software i have to find that can convert -*.* to mp3? with bitrate control?
[09:56] <bruce89> soundconverter?
[09:56] <|thunder> mencoder ?
[09:56] <bruenig> Samma-728, could you point me to the wine package you are using?
[09:56] <lhds> is it gui oriented?
[09:56] <zoomy> Anyone know why can't I find gnome-desktop-environment when I search for it using apt-cache search???
[09:57] <searayman> fyrestrtr:  do u know if that card will work?
[09:57] <spc> TheGateKeeper: that's fine.  for now I just want to get whatever I learn out there and accessible (to non-geeks as much as possible), then worry about getting it integrated later.
[09:57] <fyrestrtr> searayman: read the wiki to find out if its supported or not.
[09:57] <BobSongs> spc, it will look like my MFC posting. So clear that if you fail to get it it's time to return your PC for a refund. ;)
[09:57] <bruce89> !gnome-desktop-environment
[09:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about gnome-desktop-environment - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:57] <searayman> fyrestrtr:  i dont knwo graphics cards well enough
[09:57] <bruenig> !info gnome-desktop-environment
[09:57] <ubotu> gnome-desktop-environment: The GNOME Desktop Environment. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1:2.12.2.3 (dapper), package size 11 kB, installed size 44 kB
[09:57] <ardchoille> spc: Does this help:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CreatingScreencasts?highlight=%28screencast%29
[09:57] <lhds> ! mp3 convert
[09:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about mp3 convert - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:57] <zoomy> !info gnome-desktop-environment
[09:57] <bruce89> that's why
[09:57] <bruenig> zoomy I just did that
[09:57] <bruce89> you don't have universe
[09:57] <bruenig> scroll up a bit
[09:57] <Samma-728> oh wait.. nevermind.  Iwas getting wine mixed up with kde <:)
[09:58] <lhds> tried sound converter its buggy and does not convert
[09:58] <zoomy> bruce89: But I looked at my sources.list and universe is there???
[09:58] <bruenig> lhds, you are trying to convert what to what?
[09:58] <bruce89> oh
[09:58] <lhds> wma to mp3
[09:58] <bruce89> oh dear
[09:58] <fyrestrtr> searayman: there is a link to supported hardware in the wiki, I doubt your card will be supported, but it may :)
[09:58] <lhds> soundconverter does not work under ubuntu its buggy anyway
[09:58] <bruce89> !wma
[09:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:59] <lhds> ohhhh been through the forum inside out
[09:59] <bruenig> zoomy  open that and install the deb with gdebi http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/m/meta-gnome2/gnome-desktop-environment_2.12.2.3_all.deb
[09:59] <zoomy> bruce89: See my post.. it shows what I have in my sources.list http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=234514
[09:59] <spc> ardchoille: thanks!  BobSongs take note, there's a section just waiting for you or I to fill in on istanbul!
[09:59] <ardchoille> spc: You're welcome :)
[09:59] <spc> ardchoille: is there a section to locate all the "HOWTO"s?
[10:00] <BobSongs> spc, :-) I'll do my very best.
[10:00] <CyDrive> can somenoe help me i want my want my laptop to automatically connect to my home wireless router on startup is this possible?
[10:00] <TheGateKeeper> spc: I have done that by throwing my own little web page together with some usefull links I found, so I was merely suggesting you might want to do likewise. If you do write a howto on static ip & vnc I would be interested in reading it. :-)
[10:00] <Bicchi> wormdevil: when i do the: "sudo shutdown -h now" the machine remains on but it says power down as the last message. it just never turn off.
[10:00] <wormdevil> Bicchi: I'm not a exact expert
[10:00] <spc> TheGateKeeper: oh, I think I see what you mean now.  Where's your page?
[10:00] <wormdevil> but it should work
[10:00] <ardchoille> spc: I always just go to  wiki.ubuntu.com  and enter a search term in the search box in the top right corner.. it works most of the time.
[10:00] <frying_fish> CyDrive: is the router running encryption?
[10:00] <bruenig> !info soundkonverter
[10:00] <ubotu> soundkonverter: KDE frontend to various audio converters. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 0.1.99+0.2beta2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 744 kB, installed size 1584 kB
[10:00] <frying_fish> if so it may require some careful scripting
[10:01] <bruenig> soundkonverter alleges to be able to convert wma to mp3
[10:01] <spc> TheGateKeeper: I actually found static ip really easy to set up.  wonder if I just got lucky?....
[10:01] <CyDrive> yes the router is running encryption
[10:01] <TheGateKeeper> spc: nothing special: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/home
[10:01] <acojlo> problem with gnome-ppp (maybe with wvdial), it's connected - should login - but it says carrier lost and start dialing again although connection is present but not loged
[10:01] <bruce89> !aptitude
[10:01] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[10:01] <acojlo> !pastebin
[10:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:01] <spc> BobSongs: yes, I see it but my reply got blocked.
[10:02] <knapper> Does anyone know if it is possible to edit a partition table from a live cd? (knoppix)
[10:02] <frying_fish> knapper: yes
[10:02] <BobSongs> No prob. Just testing it.
[10:02] <Awesome-o2000> knapper, i just did!
[10:02] <frying_fish> just run fdisk
[10:02] <Tonren> Hey guys, is there a way to make Nautilus have a "view as thumbnails" option in the "Choose FIle" dialogue?
[10:02] <Awesome-o2000> knapper, I had to reinstall XP on my dual-part
[10:02] <ardchoille> knapper: Yes, it's possible.. I did that this morning with a new USB stick
[10:02] <BobSongs> spc, Thanks again. Now, I've got to run. Time to see a play. Ciao for now.
[10:02] <bilss_> hi
[10:02] <knapper> Does it require privlidges?
[10:02] <knapper> sp*
[10:02] <spc> BobSongs: nice chatting .  talk to you later.
[10:03] <BobSongs> spc. Gosh. Be good. :-)
[10:03] <acojlo> gnome-ppp: If someone wants to see how it looks: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20314
[10:03] <bilss_> anybody know any urls on how to set up a webserver with dapper looked at obvious
[10:03] <CyDrive> can someone help me get my laptop to automatically connect to my home wireless router wich has a wep key
[10:03] <fyrestrtr> !lamp > bilss_
[10:03] <eugman> Let's say i wanted to uninstall ubuntu-desktop and all of it's dependancies. What would I type?
[10:03] <TheGateKeeper> spc: static ip address may come in usefull, if I am unsuccessfull in sorting a potential little problem by another route
[10:04] <erUSUL> !wifi > CyDrive
[10:04] <fyrestrtr> CyDrive: are you using gnome? if so, use the profiles feature of gome network manager
[10:04] <bburns_> Can someone help me please
[10:04] <lhds> xmms converts to mp3?
[10:04] <erUSUL> lhds: no afaik
[10:04] <erUSUL> !anyone > bburns_
[10:04] <bburns_> I am trying to start up syslog-ng, I have before but now I restarted and it tells me Address already in use (98)
[10:04] <fyrestrtr> lhds: mplayer can
[10:04] <ardchoille> eugman: You want to stay with pure kde or pure xfce?
[10:04] <vode> lhds: mpg123 or mpg321
[10:05] <bilss_> fyrestrtr: thanks does that mean installing dapper from scratch?
[10:05] <erUSUL> lhds: use soundconverter
[10:05] <vode> FAQ answers questions about nvidia drivers?
[10:05] <spc> TheGateKeeper: I think the biggest problem is actually finding the info someone needs, not that it's not already out there.  There's just so much, and usually someone doesn't even know what to search for.
[10:05] <erUSUL> !info soundconverter
[10:05] <ubotu> soundconverter: simple sound converter application for GNOME. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.8.3-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 32 kB, installed size 216 kB
[10:05] <eugman> Ardchoille, actually I want to make a cli livecd.
[10:05] <TOuBounTou> how can i install ATI for Notebook driver on my Unbuntu :(
[10:05] <fyrestrtr> bilss_: no, you just need to install the packages
[10:05] <bruce89> !ati
[10:05] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:05] <xenocide> I've installed ubuntu server and apt-get'd gdm and when It starts it says "cannot stat *some path x/x11" Any ideas?
[10:05] <ardchoille> eugman: Hmm.. not sure about that one, but a live cli cd sounds nice
[10:05] <bburns_> I am trying to start up syslog-ng, I have before but now I restarted and it tells me Address already in use (98) Could anyone help me with this please?
[10:06] <floppyears> hi
[10:06] <fyrestrtr> xenocide: did you install X and gnome?
[10:06] <fyrestrtr> bburns_: means, there is something else already listening at that port, and it cannot bind to it.
[10:06] <xenocide> fyrestrtr:  I installed gdm, what should I get x-wise? xorg?
[10:06] <floppyears> last night I tried to get compiz to work on my ubuntu box , but I had problems enabling composite and 3d accel :(
[10:06] <bruce89> sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[10:06] <eugman> Ardchoille, Well the method would be the same I think.  Anyway i need to amke a cd that runs on something old but has gtypist so I need to uninstall lots of stuff.
[10:06] <fyrestrtr> xenocide: why did you install gdm?
[10:06] <floppyears> I could get 3d accel, but when I enabled composite, it would break the 3d accel :(
[10:07] <floppyears> any hints on what could be causing this ?
[10:07] <bburns_> fyrestrtr, I checked and kill anything else bound to taht port
[10:07] <fyrestrtr> floppyears: that's how composite works.
[10:07] <bburns_> that&
[10:07] <bburns_> that**
[10:07] <xenocide> fyrestrtr: Gnome display manager.. I guess?
[10:07] <lhds> soundconverter does not work
[10:07] <lhds> dont bother downloading
[10:07] <erUSUL> floppyears: try in #ubuntu-xgl
[10:07] <floppyears> fyrestrtr: but I am trying to get compiz, to work, and I thought that I need composite for that and 3d accel
[10:07] <fyrestrtr> xenocide: yes, but why did you install *that* specifically? Are you trying to get a gui setup on your server?
[10:07] <ardchoille> eugman: This may help you, look at the "Pure *" things on the left: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index.php
[10:07] <bilss_> fyrestrtr: what just a simle apt-get then its done as in  libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. I do not want mysql if i can aviod it
[10:07] <floppyears> I'll try them, thanks erUSUL
[10:07] <adminx> Hi all, Must say that AIGLX /Compiz works well on my Toshiba M65-S821 Laptop that uses i915 intel (Shared) video card.
[10:07] <xenocide> fyrestrtr: Yes. I only had the server disk lying about. :( It's my desktop machine.
[10:08] <eugman> Sweet
[10:08] <fyrestrtr> bilss_: you don't need mysql if you don't want it. I have both mysql, pgsql and sqlite installed :)
[10:08] <fyrestrtr> xenocide: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:08] <TheGateKeeper> spc: true, being in here you will soon find out what people most want to know :-)
[10:08] <xenocide> fyrestrtr: Ahh ok thanks
[10:08] <eugman> thanks
[10:08] <xenocide> Going now, thankyou sir!
[10:08] <Tonren> Hey guys, is there a way to make Nautilus have a "view as thumbnails" option in the "Choose FIle" dialogue?
[10:08] <bburns_> Arg, can anyone help me please?
[10:09] <azureal> hi; which repos do i need if i want the latest version of..say, fluxbox
[10:09] <fyrestrtr> xenocide: it'll take a while.
[10:09] <Tonren> bburns_: sup
[10:09] <spc> TheGateKeeper: I'm not sure how you even keep up with all the text!  :D
[10:09] <bilss_> fyrestrtr: so just  libapache2-mod-php5 would do it?
[10:09] <bburns_> I am trying to start up syslog-ng, I have before but now I restarted and it tells me Address already in use (98)
[10:09] <xenocide> Yeah it looks like it might. :D
[10:09] <bburns_> I have killed everything related to logs and port 514
[10:09] <fyrestrtr> bilss_: I would install apache2 libapache2-mod-php5
[10:09] <spc> Tonren: I'd like to know the answer as well, though I think it's possible.  I remember reading about that somewhere.....
[10:09] <Ayavaron> Is it possible to add other applications to a LiveCD as it is running? Perhaps loading them from a USB stick or hard-drive?
[10:10] <bilss_> fyrestrtr: ok thanks but i still need to configure it somehow?
[10:10] <erUSUL> Tonren: nautilus does not handle the filechoose dialog. it's handle by gtk itself
[10:10] <fyrestrtr> bilss_: you need to enable the php module, after its done installing, sudo a2enmod php5
[10:10] <lhds> i have downloaded the latest kernel available http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217657&highlight=2.6.17   check it on your list and do it . it helps remove all the problems
[10:11] <spc> I just want to delete or move a directory.  How?
[10:11] <erUSUL> Ayavaron: you can install them via apt afaik the limit is your RAM
[10:11] <bburns_> I am trying to start up syslog-ng, I have before but now I restarted and it tells me Address already in use (98)
[10:11] <vode> does the 2.6.15.XX, the XX, have to match your current running kernel for nvidia-glx/kernel modules?
[10:11] <bburns_> I have killed everything related to logs and port 514
[10:11] <fyrestrtr> !repeat > bburns_
[10:11] <cmatheson> i've got this weird excel file that starts w/ "<html xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office..."  it's tricking openoffice into thinking it's a web-page instead of a spreadsheet... any way to over-ride that?
[10:12] <bilss_> fyrestrtr: ok thanks i will give it a try
[10:12] <fyrestrtr> cmatheson: are you sure its a spreadsheet? from a terminal, type file thenameofthefile
[10:12] <spc> fyrestrtr: I accidentally closed my chatzilla and lost your instructions.  Would you mind sending them again?  (instructions for setting up a mysql db)
[10:12] <bruce89> cmatheson, open it as SpreadSheetML
[10:12] <lhds> this post : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217657&highlight=2.6.17 will help you remove your worst nightmare
[10:12] <fyrestrtr> spc: if you just want to create a database, install mysql-server mysql-client, then run mysql -u root -p (hit enter, then hit enter again when it asks for a password) then at the mysql> prompt, type create database wordpress; grant all on wordpress.* to wp@localhost identified by 'somepass'; -- then your username is wp, your database name is wordpress, and your password is whatever is somepass.
[10:12] <Defaf> i am very interested in Linux, and especially Ubuntu. but i have a few questions about it. 1. is installing programs a big hassle? (trying to find different components etc..) 2. whats the use of Ubuntu compared to windows? 3. does Ubuntu have programs that arent available for windows? thank you in advance!
[10:12] <Tonren> spc: erUSUL: Hmmm... there must be some kind of gtk package then.
[10:12] <Ayavaron> @elsul
[10:12] <Ayavaron> Will I have to redownload them each time I run it?
[10:13] <bruce89> !noob
[10:13] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[10:13] <bruce89> aww
[10:13] <fyrestrtr> Defaf: 1. yes, 2. this depends on what you use windows for currently 3. yes.
[10:13] <Tonren> Defaf: The answers to your questions are "No, usually", "Faster, less bloated, no spyware/viruses, no corporate BS, more choices, more customizability", and "Yes".
[10:13] <erUSUL> Ayavaron: yes
[10:13] <TigerDuck> Good evening
[10:13] <scrappy_> Defaf: installing programs is easier than windows or mac.. hardware support is another issue
[10:14] <Defaf> scrappy_: and people wonder why linux isnt that popular amongst mainstream users?
[10:14] <linxeh> Hi - I'm running dapper i386 on an amd64 box - which kernel package should I install (at the moment I'm just running the stock i386 one). Is there a special amd64 package, or should I use i686 or k7?
[10:14] <Ayavaron> @erUSUL
[10:14] <Ayavaron> So then is there any way to save what I'm working on when I'm using a LiveCD? I can't save the package and things to a USB device? IF so, then that makes a LiveCD pretty useless for what I need it for. Do I need to start looking for a different solution to my problem?
[10:14] <fyrestrtr> linxeh: lots of things don't work in 64 bit mode.
[10:15] <Phantom784> i want to change my monitor, but I know that when I installed, it auto-detected and put information about my old monitor in the xorg.conf file.  is there a program i can run to re auto-detect my monitor?
[10:15] <knoppix> Hey guys, how can I resize a ext3 partition using qtparted?
[10:15] <fyrestrtr> Ayavaron: what is your problem?
[10:15] <linxeh> fyrestrtr: ? I just want an EM64T optimised kernel, not a 64bit distro - ive got the 32bit i386 distro installed...
[10:15] <erUSUL> Ayavaron: you can save the files you work on (doc, spreadsheet) but not program files. this live in /usr/
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> Phantom784: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[10:16] <ardchoille> Ayavaron: I often use LiveCD's and just mount a USB stick to save files. There are livecd's that automount USB sticks
[10:16] <Ayavaron> @fyrestrtr
[10:16] <Ayavaron> The computers at my school are Macs and the software I want to use is not very good in the Mac versions. I thought that using a LiveCD for the applications would be a good way around things.
[10:16] <eugman> To become root I type sudo su right? And please don't warn me about root.
[10:16] <Phantom784> fyrestrtr: thanks
[10:16] <Ayavaron> Ok.
[10:16] <linxeh> Ayavaron: tried fink / darwinports ?
[10:16] <Ayavaron> Thanks.
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> eugman: sudo -i
[10:16] <linxeh> or sudo -H -s
[10:16] <crayzee> Sorry, connection dropped
[10:16] <IAskew> Ayavaron, the puters in ur skool are macs?
[10:16] <eugman> What did what I said do?
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> Ayavaron: are they osx macs, or prior?
[10:17] <linxeh> eugman: it would work, but its effectively running su twice
[10:17] <Ayavaron> I haven't tried Darwinports or Fink, but they are programs with Mac versions. I just find X11 to be a repulsive solution and then most people in the Yearbook team wouldn't be compfortable with it.
[10:17] <bburns_> I am trying to start up syslog-ng, I have before but now I restarted and it tells me Address already in use (98)
[10:17] <cmatheson> fyrestrtr: file thinks it's an html doc too.  it opens correctly in excel though.
[10:17] <Ayavaron> They're OS X G4 eMacs.
[10:17] <aarohi> anyone?
[10:17] <cmatheson> bruce89: how do i open it as spreadsheetml?
[10:17] <linxeh> Ayavaron: macosx rocks
[10:17] <aarohi> i'm on ubuntu and i have the kubuntu cd added to the repository list and i started installing the kubuntu-desktop package through synaptic but unfortunately it starts downloading packages from the internet. i cancelled. what do i do to make it install the kubuntu packages from cd? someone help please. :)
[10:17] <bburns_> can anyone help?
[10:17] <TigerDuck> Q: I read about the maintenance release of dapper drake 6.06.1 on heise.de and now I am wondering if I am supposed to do any updating or if the update manager is already keeping my dapper up-2-date. Any suggestions?
[10:17] <fyrestrtr> cmatheson: what extension does it have?
[10:18] <IAskew> A. Yes
[10:18] <cmatheson> fyrestrtr: xls
[10:18] <erUSUL> aarohi: coment out all inet repos and left only the cd as source
[10:18] <linxeh> fyrestrtr: can you recommend a kernel package to install for an amd64 processor on 32bit ubuntu?
[10:18] <fyrestrtr> TigerDuck: its already upto date.
[10:18] <jujaga> hello
[10:18] <Flannel> TigerDuck: 6.06.1 is really just an update to the ISO
[10:18] <spc> Tonren: I think someone was asking that last week on here, when I saw it.  That, or the forums.  Someone's girlfriend wanted to look through photos.  I wish I could remember the answer.  :(  have you tried google?
[10:18] <Ayavaron> @linxeh
[10:18] <Ayavaron> I know it's great. I just can't do much with it without paying for new software and the school can't afford it.
[10:18] <fyrestrtr> linxeh: sorry, I am not familiar with 64 bit :(
[10:18] <linxeh> fyrestrtr: ok, no worries :)
[10:18] <jujaga> i need some help on ubuntu
[10:18] <aarohi> erUSUL: when i do that, there IS no kubuntu-desktop package displayed in synaptic for me to install....
[10:18] <fyrestrtr> linxeh: check the forums though.
[10:18] <TigerDuck> fyrestrtr, Flannel: Thanks, makes me feel a lot more comfortable
[10:18] <ardchoille> aarohi: If you install it from the cd, it's just going to be updated from the internet next time you do an update anyway
[10:19] <Phantom784> fyrestrtr: it tells me that xsession-xorg is not installed.  i'm on kubuntu, so maybe that makes a difference somehow.
[10:19] <spc> fyrestrtr: is that exactly "create database wordpress; grant all on wordpress.* to wp@localhost identified by 'somepass'; -- " (except for changing somepass to the password I want)?
[10:19] <linxeh> Ayavaron: I don't see why you cant run everything you want on osx though; darwinports is pretty good, as is fink, and OSX comes with an X server. you can even run gnome / kde on it
[10:19] <Tonren> spc: Yeah, nothing's come up yet
[10:19] <knoppix> Hey guys, how can I resize a ext3 partition using qtparted on the knoppix live cd??
[10:19] <linxeh> fyrestrtr: yeah, I've been trawling, thats why I came here
[10:19] <fyrestrtr> spc: yes, exactly.
[10:19] <aarohi> ardchoille: so there's no way this can be done without the internet being involved?
[10:19] <fyrestrtr> Phantom784: for which line?
[10:19] <Ayavaron> Will Darwinports allow me to run OpenOffice in a way that doesn't take forever to load up and use normal styled Mac key-commands?
[10:20] <jujaga> how do i install a program on ubuntu?
[10:20] <erUSUL> aarohi: then the package does not come in the cd... i've never tried what you want... why not install kubuntu from scracht
[10:20] <Tonren> jujaga: Applications -> Add/Remove Programs
[10:20] <fyrestrtr> Ayavaron: there is a version of OO for mac.
[10:20] <Ayavaron> There are already Mac versions. It's just that they are ugly Windows-styled porgrams that don't fit in nicely with OS X.
[10:20] <linxeh> Ayavaron: no, openoffice takes forever to start up on every platform, especially on a livecd
[10:20] <ripper> that or apt-get or synaptic or automatix
[10:20] <ripper> or from source
[10:20] <fyrestrtr> Ayavaron: if they are intel macs, you can dual boot :)
[10:20] <jujaga> i have a tar.gz file
[10:20] <Ayavaron> I know there is. It just doesn't work nicely.
[10:20] <bburns_> Can anyone even read what I'm typing? lmao
[10:20] <aarohi> erUSUL: are you saying ubuntu and kubuntu cannot run simultaneously?
[10:20] <Flannel> aarohi: if you disable your internet repositories, they won't be checked ;)  Just comment them out of your source list.  Although... I can't guarentee it'll work completely nicely.  It should, I think
[10:20] <ardchoille> aarohi: Having the internet involved would get you the most up-to-date packages, which I would think would be a good thing.
[10:20] <linxeh> Ayavaron: plus the fact, Linux on a live cd isnt going to give you standard mac key commands either
[10:20] <ripper> jujaga, do this
[10:20] <Ayavaron> I am aware of that. They're not intel Macs.
[10:20] <Phantom784> fyrestrtr: what do you mean which line?  i only typed one command on the command line; the one you gave me
[10:20] <ubuntulive> Hi everybody. I'm trying to set up Ubuntu 6.06 on an Intel iMac.
[10:20] <ripper> jujaga, do this tar -zxvf blah.tar.gz
[10:21] <bina> I'm trying to configure kqemu module to be loaded when I boot linux.  It says to put the line "/sbin/modprobe kqemu major=0" in a file called /etc/rc.d/rc.local,  but I can only find dirs rc0-6 (putting in 5). can I just make a text file called rc.local in there with that one line of text?
[10:21] <Ayavaron> Yes, but it will fit in with the rest of the OS and won't seem so weird.
[10:21] <ripper> then cd to that dir
[10:21] <aarohi> okay ardchoille will do.. thank you'z
[10:21] <ubuntulive> I'm having some difficulties with the partitioner.
[10:21] <ripper> then do ./configure
[10:21] <fyrestrtr> Phantom784: was it sudo dpk-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg ?
[10:21] <ubuntulive> Perhaps someone could help me out?
[10:21] <ripper> then do ./make
[10:21] <aarohi> thank you Flannel
[10:21] <erUSUL> aarohi: no i'm saying that you can not install kubuntu-desktop from the kubuntu alternate cd
[10:21] <jujaga> ok
[10:21] <ripper> then do ./make install
[10:21] <jujaga> the only problem is
[10:21] <fyrestrtr> Phantom784: gah, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg ?
[10:21] <linxeh> Ayavaron:  what has the fact they aren't intel got to do with it? openoffice is slow starting even on a dual core
[10:21] <Flannel> erUSUL: why wouldn't he?
[10:21] <chris12349> I need to setup a file server using ubuntu LTS,  It would have 4 1.2 TB external USB drives attached to it.  Anyone see any issue? I concerned about losing connection w/ the USB drives
[10:21] <aarohi> i see erUSUL
[10:21] <jujaga> it keeps saying to use a super user?
[10:21] <ubuntulive> I need to apparently clean out the Fat32 drive I use for Windows XP, which I don't want to lose, but how do I do that?
[10:21] <Ayavaron> It's ugly and jarring to run something from X11 inside Mac OSX and the people on the Yearbook team aren't very computer-literate.
[10:21] <ripper> yeah do sudo :P
[10:21] <Ayavaron> Someone asked me if they were Intel Macs.
[10:21] <aarohi> erUSUL: have you tried instaling the kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu though? does it work?
[10:21] <Phantom784> fyrestartr: yes, thats the line i typed
[10:21] <linxeh> ah soz :)
[10:21] <eugman> I have a list of packages. How can i see how much space they take up combined?
[10:21] <bigmarCus> /usr/bin/ircinfo: line 51: gawk: command not found
[10:21] <bigmarCus> Kernel: 2.6.15-26-386 Hostname: ubuntu/usr/bin/ircinfo: line 94: gawk: command not found
[10:21] <bigmarCus> /usr/bin/ircinfo: line 94: let: uph=/3600: syntax error: operand expected (error token is "/3600")
[10:21] <bigmarCus>  Uptime:  h/usr/bin/ircinfo: line 71: gawk: command not found
[10:21] <bigmarCus> /usr/bin/ircinfo: line 72: gawk: command not found
[10:21] <bigmarCus> /usr/bin/ircinfo: line 71: gawk: command not found
[10:22] <Flannel> aarohi: yeah, you can have both on the same machine
[10:22] <bigmarCus>   Codename: /usr/bin/ircinfo: line 87: gawk: command not found
[10:22] <bigmarCus> /usr/bin/ircinfo: line 87: gawk: command not found
[10:22] <bigmarCus> /usr/bin/ircinfo: line 87: gawk: command not found
[10:22] <sprink> where is apt-setup?
[10:22] <bigmarCus>  CPU: Cache: Bogomips:/usr/bin/ircinfo: line 123: gawk: command not found
[10:22] <eugman> !paste
[10:22] <azureal> what's the difference between hoary and breezy, and how do i know what i'm using?
[10:22] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:22] <bigmarCus> grep: write error: Broken pipe
[10:22] <bigmarCus> /usr/bin/ircinfo: line 124: gawk: command not found
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> wth
[10:22] <bigmarCus>  Swap: - kB/usr/bin/ircinfo: line 133: gawk: command not found
[10:22] <acojlo> i have break in usplash procedure just before gdm. There is some text console display
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> !ops
[10:22] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[10:22] <bigmarCus> grep: write error: Broken pipe
[10:22] <linxeh> Ayavaron: well, without buying iWork or MSOffice you don't have much choice, other than the awful osx ports of openoffice
[10:22] <bigmarCus> /usr/bin/ircinfo: line 134: gawk: command not found
[10:22] <azureal> also, i think i want hoary..
[10:22] <eugman> ubote tell bigmar Cus about paste
[10:22] <bigmarCus> /usr/bin/ircinfo: line 136: let: a=/1024: syntax error: operand expected (error token is "/1024")
[10:22] <aarohi> Flannel: okay, thank you. i will try and install from the internet
[10:22] <bigmarCus>  RAM:  Mb/usr/bin/ircinfo: line 174: gawk: command not found
[10:22] <bigmarCus>  Graka: X.Org version: 7.0.0 Treiber:fglrx/usr/bin/ircinfo: line 116: gawk: command not found
[10:22] <erUSUL> aarohi: no, but people do it around here without much problems
[10:22] <bigmarCus> grep: write error: Broken pipe
[10:22] <sprink> what does ubuntu use to add new repos?
[10:22] <Flannel> azureal: why do you want hoary?
[10:22] <imbrandon_> ?
[10:22] <aarohi> erUSUL: i'm going to do it. thank you for your help
[10:22] <aarohi> :)
[10:22] <ardchoille> aarohi: I have installed kubuntu-desktop in Ubuntu, it works fine.. you may noticed extra items in your gnome menus (kde apps) but I normally run kde apps in gnome and vice versa.
[10:22] <Seveas> imbrandon, bigmarcus was flooding crap
[10:22] <sprink> where is apt-setup :(
[10:22] <ubuntulive> Anyone who can help me find the right app/command to fix errors on a fat32 partition?
[10:23] <erUSUL> sprink: synaptic or edit /etc/apt/sources.list by hand
[10:23] <zipper> I'm supposed to use the synaptic driver for my touchpad however i think something is wrong. If i disable the touchpad in ksynaptic, nothing happends. No other mice plugged in. How do i configure the driver? Is it somewhere in xorg.conf?
[10:23] <imbrandon_> ahh ;)
[10:23] <Ayavaron> Well that seems to be the case. I'll just have to get everyone to put up with the horrible ports out there.
[10:23] <fyrestrtr> Phantom784: hrmm, it should have worked, I don't know why its giving you that error.
[10:23] <Ayavaron> Thanks for the help anyway.
[10:23] <aarohi> ardchoille: i see
[10:23] <Ayavaron> I appreciate it.
[10:23] <bilss_> hi
[10:23] <linxeh> ubuntulive: fsck.vfat
[10:23] <fyrestrtr> zipper: try the tpconfig program (there are a few for configuring touchpads)
[10:23] <ubuntulive> Er, in the terminal I presume?
[10:23] <azureal> flannel: could you explain the difference first, and how to find out what i'm using?
[10:23] <dm_> I forget,,, how do i install a DEB??
[10:23] <dm_> sudo dpkg -i ?
[10:23] <bburns_> Does anyone have any ideas for my dilema?
[10:23] <Seveas> !deb > dm_
[10:23] <linxeh> ubuntulive: you'll need to give it the partition, and probably the -y or -A flag or something (by default I think it will only tell you errors, not fix them)
[10:23] <zipper> fyrestrtr, i will, thanks
[10:23] <Awesome-o2000> hey guys I must give you devs props - so far I havent run into any bugs! I used to be religious about gentoo for that reason - I loved that you didnt have to deal with random issues but so far this works great
[10:23] <azureal> flannel: hoary appears to have the latest version of fluxbox
[10:23] <linxeh> ubuntulive: yes
[10:24] <ubuntulive> Thanks
[10:24] <dm_> seveas i got it, its been a long time
[10:24] <cmatheson> any ideas how to open an office SpreadSheetML file in open office?
[10:24] <bburns_> Does anyone have any ideas for my dilema?
[10:24] <Awesome-o2000> not trying to bust anyones chops but I couldn't say that about your last releaser
[10:24] <Ayavaron> Thanks for the help everyone.
[10:24] <ubuntulive> Actually, how do I tell it which partition to check?
[10:24] <Flannel> azureal: they're different versions, Hoary is 5.04, meaning it was released April of 05.  Dapper is 6.06 meaning June of 06.
[10:24] <bilss_> fyrestrtr: theres a smaller webserver called thttpd have you herd of it?
[10:24] <bruce89> cmatheson, open OO.o first
[10:24] <bruce89> sorry
[10:24] <spc> ardchoille: aarohi: ubuntu blog had instructions on keeping gnome and kde menus clean from each other's apps, but it was supposed to be done before installing kubuntu-desktop.  I haven't tried it after the fact yet.
[10:24] <fyrestrtr> bilss_: yes, but I haven't used it.
[10:24] <cmatheson> bruce89: well i've gotten that far
[10:24] <Flannel> azureal: Any version hoary has, later versions will have that, or higher.
[10:24] <nUgZ> anyone else having wireless network connecting issues>?
[10:24] <bruce89> no, right click, and Open with other application
[10:24] <cmatheson> bruce89: is there a way to specify what i want to load as though?
[10:25] <spc> bburns_: what's your dilemma?
[10:25] <bburns_> yay
[10:25] <azureal> flannel: ok, so what am i using, and is it ok to download 0.9.15 from here http://logicvortex.net/debian/fluxbox/
[10:25] <knoppix> anyone care to help me use ext2resize?
[10:25] <bburns_> I am trying to start up syslog-ng, I have before but now I restarted and it tells me Address already in use (98)
[10:25] <bruce89> and then select OO.o writer
[10:25] <TigerDuck> fyrestrtr, bilss_: Did you ever hear of lighttpd?
[10:25] <ardchoille> spc: Oh? Thank you for that info, I'll check it out :)
[10:25] <bruce89> actually
[10:25] <bruce89> i see what you mean
[10:25] <bburns_> spc, I have tried everything, and I can't get it to start! :X
[10:25] <spc> ardchoille: no problem.
[10:25] <linxeh> fyrestrtr: just FYI it looks like you use the k7 or k7-smp kernel for amd64 on 32bit
[10:25] <Flannel> azureal: you'll be better off using the fluxbox in the repositories.  And, you can find out what you have by typing 'lsb_release -a' in a terminal
[10:25] <fyrestrtr> linxeh: :) cool.
[10:25] <spc> bburns_: can't get what to start?
[10:26] <bburns_> spc, I am trying to start up syslog-ng, I have before but now I restarted and it tells me Address already in use (98)
[10:26] <spc> bburns_: I'll bet you haven't tried everything yet.  ;)
[10:26] <bilss_> TigerDuck: no but i herd that thttpd is pretty secure
[10:26] <ardchoille> spc: I believe adding a line like"Show_in_gnome = false" to the kde .desktop menu files will help keeping kde apps out of gnome menus
[10:26] <bburns_> spc, alright, fire away! :)
[10:26] <ardchoille> I've seen that in some of my .desktop files
[10:27] <bruce89> Open OO.o, and select open.  Select "Microsoft Excel 2003 XML" in the bit where it currently says "All files"
[10:27] <spc> bburns_: I don't know much about that at all, but let me look into it.  Have you already googled and searched the forum?
[10:27] <bburns_> spc, yes
[10:27] <azureal> Flannel, thx for the command, but there's a big difference between 0.9.14 and 0.9.15 right now...
[10:27] <jujaga> how do i make a super user?
[10:27] <bburns_> spc, people have told me its a resource thats on that port, but I dont see anything on it -- and if something was on it, I have killed it and still get the error
[10:27] <TigerDuck> bilss_: I know the head developer of lighttpd (Jan Kneschke aka weigon) and he has quite a reputation in the scene
[10:27] <spc> ardchoille: sounds easy.  I'll give it a look.
[10:27] <Flannel> azureal: is .9.15 not in the repositories?
[10:28] <fyrestrtr> jujaga: add the user to the admin group.
[10:28] <bruce89> cmatheson, Open OO.o, and select open.  Select "Microsoft Excel 2003 XML" in the bit where it currently says "All files"
[10:28] <jujaga> ok
[10:28] <fyrestrtr> bburns_: netstat -l
[10:28] <blade2> trappist: my wireless card works with 6.06. thanks.
[10:28] <Phantom784> fyrestrtr: i took a look a adept, and there is no session called xsession-xorg.  there is xserver-xorg, which is installed.  could i try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg, or might that screw up my system
[10:28] <azureal> Flannel, well, which repository do you recommend?  My synaptic shows 0.9.14 as the latest
[10:28] <sprink> are the security repos offline?
[10:28] <trappist> blade2: awesome!
[10:28] <bruce89> Phantom784, no
[10:28] <Seveas> !reposdown > sprink
[10:28] <wormdevil2> mlehrer
[10:28] <crayzee_> Help me! Im trying to install ubuntu and my screen goes blank and doesn't come back
[10:28] <fyrestrtr> Phantom784: that's what I told you to type, twice. sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg ??
[10:28] <spc> bburns_: fyrestrtr can probably help you more than me, it sounds like you know as much (or more!) as I do.
[10:28] <rx_> hmm i really need some hints. im running ubuntu 6.06 and ive tons of problem with the sound. in xmms and rythmbox my mp3 sounds weird...theres a little noise.... but they do play fine with totom...but wont play at all with amarok... what should i try?
[10:29] <spc> crayzee: how far into install before it goes blank?  What computer are you running it on?
[10:29] <Phantom784> fyrestrtr: that must be it, my mind is screwed up...
[10:29] <bburns_> spc ok thanks
[10:29] <bburns_> fyrestrtr, can you please help me?
[10:29] <fyrestrtr> bburns_: I can try, what's troubling you, my son?
[10:29] <Jack_Sparrow> HAs anyone here tried the gambas programming tool
[10:29] <azureal> !hoary > azureal
[10:30] <bburns_> fyrestrtr, I am trying to start up syslog-ng, I have before but now I restarted and it tells me Address already in use (98)
[10:30] <nUgZ> ......
[10:30] <nUgZ> .....
[10:30] <nUgZ> ...
[10:30] <Flannel> azureal: it'd be in universe.  And, that may be the case.  Yeah, it was released in april, it wouldn't have gotten into dapper.  So, yeah, you'll have to compile it yourself, looks like.  Although, it should be in edgy, so when you upgrade you can get a package for it instead
[10:30] <spc> fyrestrtr: lol
[10:30] <Phantom784> fyrestrtr: the correct command worked perfectly
[10:30] <cmatheson> bruce89: i get the error: 'XML document not well formed!'  maybe it's just a bad document for open office?
[10:30] <fyrestrtr> bburns_: find out what is listening on it, type netstat -l
[10:30] <Flannel> azureal: actually,
[10:30] <bruce89> possibly
[10:30] <Jack_Sparrow> fyrestrtr: I thought you were looking a little punchy
[10:30] <IAskew> said like someone who has never run gentoo fyrestrtr
[10:30] <azureal> Flannel, "edgy" ?
[10:30] <bburns_> fyrestrtr, i have done that and did it again, and nothing is listening on it
[10:31] <fyrestrtr> IAskew: I ran gentoo for 3 years, it was a sarcastic comment :)
[10:31] <wormdevil2> someone was helping me earlier?
[10:31] <Flannel> azureal: you don't need to compile by source, fluxbox offers a deb on their page, you can install that.  Edgy is the next version, slated to be released in october. (6.10)
[10:31] <alakriti> anyone aware of a problem with the hda-intel drivers? when i first installed the system sound worked flawlessly, after updating sound doesnt work. always says cannot connect to sound server. i have tried reinstalling all the hda-intel drivers as well
[10:31] <gnomefreak> Flannel: its not hit edgy yet
[10:31] <IAskew> it didnt work
[10:31] <nUgZ> somone wanna assist me on reinstalling my kernal and getting my wireless card to work?
[10:31] <fyrestrtr> bburns_: how are you starting it?
[10:31] <bburns_> fyrestrtr, syslog-ng -f /etc/syslog-ng/syslog-ng.conf
[10:31] <IAskew> ive been running linux since 97 fyrestrtr u wanna dick contest?
[10:31] <azureal> Flannel, ah, so you'd recommend the package on the link i wrote here then?
[10:32] <fyrestrtr> bburns_: sudo /etc/init.d/syslog-ng restart
[10:32] <nUgZ> Anyone?
[10:32] <crayzee_> HELP! Installation problems!
[10:32] <Flannel> azureal: er, did you write a link?  but yeah, I'd grab the deb from their site, and that should work fine
[10:32] <gnomefreak> IAskew: dont do that you smart comments are unneeded and watch your lanuage
[10:32] <jujaga> can anyone help me personally/ one on one?
[10:32] <fyrestrtr> IAskew: your point is what?
[10:32] <nUgZ> anyone know how to reinstall the linux kernel?
[10:32] <Jack_Sparrow> IAskew: No contest, you win, your the biggest dick
[10:32] <azureal> Flannel, http://logicvortex.net/debian/fluxbox/  I'm going to install the one unde 'Ubuntu Hoary'
[10:32] <azureal> under*
[10:33] <nUgZ> forthe lateset ubuntu
[10:33] <nUgZ> ????
[10:33] <fyrestrtr> nUgZ: are you running dapper?
[10:33] <wormdevil2> can someone help me
[10:33] <bburns_> Fyrestrtr, didnt start it, but no error message was outputted
[10:33] <jujaga> i am using ubuntu in vmware workstation 5.5.1 and i am trying to install vmware tools, but i can't install it because i'm not a "super user"; although i am on the admin user. Any advice?
[10:33] <nUgZ> fyrestrtr: yes
[10:34] <fyrestrtr> nUgZ: you are already on the latest kernel then.
[10:34] <gerhard> good evening
[10:34] <fyrestrtr> jujaga: sudo [the command] 
[10:34] <gerhard> how do i get wine?
[10:34] <gnomefreak> !wine
[10:34] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:34] <bburns_> fyrestrtr, didnt start it, but no error message was outputted
[10:34] <fyrestrtr> bburns_: sudo /etc/init.d/syslog-ng stop
[10:34] <jujaga> i'm also new with linux...
[10:34] <nUgZ> fyrestrtr: im having an issue with it and my network card, according to gr33npho3nix
[10:35] <azureal> Flannel: alright, so i'm going to do what I said above; thx for your help
[10:35] <Flannel> azureal: ah, THATS where you got the hoary.  Actually, you might need to use the Sarge one.  Hoary was a while ago, there have been compiler changes since then.   Bother.  You should ask fluxbox to package for modern stuff too ;)
[10:35] <gerhard> thx
[10:35] <spc> wormdevil2: help you with what?
[10:35] <wormdevil2> installing ubuntu
[10:35] <bburns_> fyrestrtr, is it suppose to say stopped or something?
[10:35] <wormdevil2> can I pm you?
[10:35] <fyrestrtr> bburns_: depends on the init script, hold a sec.
[10:35] <wormdevil2> I have eyesight problems
[10:35] <bburns_> fyrestrtr, ok
[10:35] <bilss_> TigerDuck: looks ok is there a howto for dapper
[10:35] <purplebody> hello everyone.  I'm trying to setup an ssh server on ubuntu.  When I try to connect to it with putty, all I get is version information about the server, then I get disconnected
[10:35] <wormdevil2> i cant see thru all th emessages
[10:35] <spc> wormdevil2: are you on that pc now?  What specifically do you need help with on the install?
[10:35] <Jack_Sparrow> gnomefreak: np I deserved that..
[10:35] <purplebody> does anyone know what is happening?
[10:35] <jujaga> what is sudo?
[10:36] <eugman> eugene@ubuntu:~$ extract_compressed_fs mnt/casper/filesystem.cloop > extracted_f s
[10:36] <eugman> Opening compressed file
[10:36] <eugman> : No such file or director
[10:36] <eugman> Can someone help me? This step of the making a live cd part isn't working.
[10:36] <Flannel> !tell jujaga about sudo
[10:36] <spc> wormdevil2: if you're asking me, yes.
[10:36] <fyrestrtr> bburns_: yes, it should say Stopping system logging: syslog-ng then Starting system logging: syslog-ng
[10:36] <acojlo> is there fine gui dialer for a gprs connection?
[10:36] <Jack_Sparrow> eugman: What are you trying to do?
[10:36] <eugman> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[10:37] <unfun> Why do I get disconnected once in a while? Before I reformated my ubuntu I never got disconnected.
[10:38] <Jack_Sparrow> What are you trying to add or make custom?
[10:38] <fyrestrtr> bburns_: ??? did you install it from repos?
[10:38] <ardchoille> For anyone who wants to keep KDE icons out of the gnome menus, add this line to the .desktop files of kde menu items: OnlyShowIn=KDE . You can do likewise for gnome menu items to be kept out of KDE menus: OnlyShowIn=GNOME
[10:38] <salah> how do I check how big a directory is via console?
[10:38] <nUgZ> Anyone want to help me on my network problem
[10:38] <Jack_Sparrow> nUgZ: what card.?
[10:38] <fyrestrtr> salah: du -h --max-depth=1 /path/to/dir
[10:38] <eugman> I want to make a cli live cd with gtypist and typespeed so I can turn a junker I having into a typing tutor.
[10:38] <PingunZ> whats the command for the add/remove ?
[10:38] <TigerDuck> !sound
[10:38] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[10:39] <trappist> PingunZ: add/remove what?
[10:39] <eugman> salah, ls -l might do the trick
[10:39] <trappist> salah: du -sh dirname
[10:39] <trappist> salah: or just du for raw data
[10:40] <gerhard> deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt breezy main this source doesnt work for me
[10:40] <Jack_Sparrow> eugman: may I pm you?
[10:40] <bilss_> TigerDuck: is there a howto for dapper?
[10:40] <gerhard> what is wrong with that
[10:40] <eugman> Sure
[10:40] <salah> thanks all, du -h --max-depth=1 /directory/ worked
[10:40] <PingunZ> just the add/remove --> the simple synaptic
[10:40] <lhds> someone wrote a script that starts with #!/bin/sh where to place it so it can take effect?
[10:40] <trappist> gerhard: it's probably correct, but it probably no longer exists since breezy is no longer supported
[10:40] <fyrestrtr> gerhard: are you on breezy or dapper?
[10:40] <eugman> Jack_Sparrow, sure
[10:40] <Baltazar^2> !samba
[10:40] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:40] <knoppix> Can someone give me some assistance in resizing my ext3 partition?
[10:40] <gerhard> breezy
[10:41] <fyrestrtr> gerhard: upgrade?
[10:41] <gerhard> i wait for the cds
[10:41] <scrappy_> knoppix: i suspect youre no using ubuntu :)
[10:41] <gerhard> but that may be long
[10:41] <fyrestrtr> gerhard: if you have a fast connection, you can upgrade from the net.
[10:41] <gerhard> how?
[10:41] <Backeman> Hi! How should I do to make the dhcp3-server, a script with IPTABLES-rules, set ip and dhclient another iface at boot?
[10:41] <knoppix> scrappy_ I am, ultimately, but right now im on a knoppix live disk
[10:41] <fyrestrtr> !upgrade > gerhard
[10:41] <trappist> gerhard: are you running amd64?
[10:41] <gerhard> yes
[10:41] <fyrestrtr> Backeman: use shorewall
[10:42] <Backeman> fyrestrtr: googling, thanks
[10:42] <knoppix> scrappy_ I had to boot to this, because gparted doesn't allow the resizing of an active partition
[10:42] <knoppix> scrappy_ if I read correctly
[10:42] <Flannel> gerhard: that breezy repository still works... or, should.
[10:42] <erUSUL> lhds: /usr/local/bin/ is a good place
[10:42] <unfun> !disconnect
[10:42] <ubotu> I know nothing about disconnect - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:42] <Dominion> Discworld: Rincewind had been told that death was just like going into another room. The difference is, when you shout, 'Where's my clean socks?', no-one answers. -- (Terry Pratchett, Eric)
[10:42] <PingunZ> whats the command for add/remove ? just the add/remove --> the simple synaptic
[10:42] <Flannel> trappist, gerhard, breezy is still supported, by the way.
[10:42] <gerhard> mh, he said it didnt
[10:42] <nUgZ> Anyone know how to reinstall the lateset kernel?
[10:42] <trappist> Flannel: yeah I checked that out
[10:42] <fyrestrtr> Dominion: ???
[10:43] <trappist> gerhard: you can't install wine on amd64, so there's no amd64 repo on that site
[10:43] <Backeman> fyrestrtr: well, thats not what I'm after. I want to know how I can make things start at boot. Im rather satisfied with the firewall I've got
[10:43] <fyrestrtr> nUgZ: sudo aptitude reinstall linux-kernel
[10:43] <lhds> there is this sound script i want to load : #!/bin/sh sox -c 2 -s -w -r 32000 -t ossdsp /dev/dsp2 -t ossdsp -w -r 32000 /dev/dsp & tvtime --mixer=/dev/mixer:pcm wait tvtime t=`pidof sox`kill $t; amixer -c 0 sset PCM 80%,80%  unmute |||||| where do i have to put this?
[10:43] <fyrestrtr> Backeman: use 'bum' or update-rc.d
[10:43] <Dominion> (sorry, clicked the wrong button)
[10:43] <scrappy_> knoppix: ive never used qtparted included in knoppix to resize sorry
[10:43] <nUgZ> fyrestrtr:k thanks
[10:43] <cry0gen> edgy is nice
[10:43] <cry0gen> :D
[10:43] <cry0gen> with xgl
[10:44] <cry0gen> *pets*
[10:44] <erUSUL> !enter
[10:44] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[10:44] <purplebody> Does anyone here know anything about setting up an ssh server?  I can install the package, and even ssh in from the local machine, but when I try to ssh in from my windows machine it just displays ssh-d version information then disconnects.
[10:44] <gerhard> ok I update
[10:44] <gerhard> errr upgrade
[10:44] <frying_fish> trappist: not for very long, I think AMD64 capability with WINE is upcoming shortly
[10:44] <fyrestrtr> !boot > Backeman
[10:44] <cry0gen> frying_fish: yes, it deffinetly is, the 64bit registers are supposedly coming along :D
[10:44] <scrappy_> purplebody: ssh ipaddress -l ubuntuusername
[10:44] <trappist> gerhard: you still won't be able to install wine, but upgrading is definitely recommended.
[10:44] <gerhard> great...
[10:45] <Backeman> fyrestrtr: thanks!
[10:45] <gerhard> ok I upgrade tomorrow, Im too tired now
[10:45] <gerhard> goodbye and thanks
[10:45] <trappist> gerhard: you can either switch to 32bit ubuntu or install a 32bit chroot on your amd64 system to install wine
[10:45] <fyrestrtr> gerhard: let it update overnight.
[10:45] <gerhard> my bed is next to the pc
[10:45] <gerhard> would be too loud
[10:45] <fyrestrtr> lol okay
[10:45] <gerhard> damn 64 bit
[10:45] <fyrestrtr> damn fans ;)
[10:45] <gerhard> what is that good for
[10:45] <scrappy_> purplebody: youre using putty probably though right? on same router? its a 192 address?
[10:45] <Ych> back
[10:45] <gerhard> yes^^
[10:46] <Ych> www.silentpcreview.com
[10:46] <gerhard> ok i go, cu
[10:46] <Ych> for anyone who complains about fans
[10:46] <purplebody> scrappy_ yes
[10:47] <fyrestrtr> does anyone have the current Pacific time?
[10:47] <Flannel> fyrestrtr: 13:47
[10:47] <scrappy_> purplebody: all i have to do is install openssh-server and then ssh in using my userid..
[10:47] <fyrestrtr> hrmm, okay. Is that daylight or normal?
[10:48] <Boj> Whats the simplist way to find out the command for starting an application e.g Bittorrent?
[10:48] <Flannel> fyrestrtr: daylight, standard would be 12:48
[10:48] <scrappy_> purplebody: your using a firewall with ubuntu maybe?
[10:48] <fyrestrtr> Flannel: its 'spring forward' and 'fall back' right? for dst?
[10:48] <Flannel> Boj: type a few letters for what you think it might be, then hit tab (or hit tab twice, to see a list)
[10:48] <purplebody> scrappy: I don't think I have a firewall up.  I did a server install from the alternate cd.
[10:48] <Flannel> fyrestrtr: right, we fall back in a few months
[10:49] <fyrestrtr> okay cheers.
[10:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !firewall
[10:49] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[10:49] <trappist> a firewall wouldn't cause that
[10:49] <trappist> purplebody: after trying to connect, tail /var/log/auth.log
[10:50] <azureal> Flannel: oh, er.. i already installed Hoary
[10:50] <scrappy_> purplebody: maybe sudo iptables -L    to check you should have inbound outbound and forward all with accept
[10:50] <Baltazar^2> need advice using samba - anyone
[10:50] <trappist> scrappy_: he wouldn't get an ssh banner if there was a firewall in the way
[10:50] <devo> i'm using breezy and am having a heck of a time getting my external modem to go silent.  i've tried what was in the howto with no luck.  have also toggled the gui items in the modem monitor and network settings.  no luck.  any suggestions?
[10:50] <Baltazar^2> devo: use 10lb or 10kg hammer :)
[10:50] <devo> there's that.  :)
[10:51] <ucordes> my sound suddenly stopped working after i configured ekiga. no sound at all. in multimedia settings it is set to ALSA, when i test it i get an error. how can i restore my sound settings to complete defaults?
[10:51] <spc> I installed easyUbuntu, haven't done automatix yet.  On the Apple site, the quicktime videos don't show up (using firefox on ubuntu).   is easyubuntu supposed to have fixed that?
[10:51] <Jack_Sparrow> !easyubuntu
[10:51] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[10:51] <Lattyware> Hey. Anyone know (when using nVidia's drivers to achive dual screens) how to stop full screen aps from spanning both moniters in a dual screen setup?
[10:52] <Ych> they don't in mine....
[10:52] <Flannel> azureal: does it work? ;)  if it works, then youre set
[10:52] <azureal> Flannel: what was that "<3lettersomething>_release -a" command again?
[10:52] <qwerty2k> hey can anyone help me with an error message i get with anjuta? it says AM_GNU_GETTEXT in 'configure.in' but 'po' not in subdir then the same enxt line but instead it says but 'intl' not in SUBDIR
[10:53] <Blissex> Lattyware: sure, some people do know :-).
[10:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Ych: you using twinview?
[10:53] <Ych> i take it you have
[10:53] <devo> does anyone know where the startup scripts for ppp are at in breezy?
[10:53] <azureal> Flannel: it works, i guess
[10:53] <Ych> ummm
[10:53] <Ych> yeah
[10:53] <Ych>     Option "TwinView"
[10:53] <Ych> thats right
[10:53] <purplebody> trappist: is there something I should be looking for?  I have to disconnect to test it out
[10:53] <Lattyware> Would you tell me then :P
[10:53] <Backeman> what is the command for installing a .deb-file that I have locally?
[10:53] <mjr> Backeman, sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[10:53] <Backeman> mjr: thanks
[10:53] <Ych> are you using twinview?
[10:54] <Top_GEAR> Lattyware: You need two screen sections in xorg.conf
[10:54] <trappist> purplebody: it would hopefully be obvious, but there's a million things it could be.  just one example, you might be trying to connect with ssh v1 protocol and you're only accepting v2.
[10:54] <ch> I've just install a DVD writer on my PC. It's connected as a slave on the 2nd IDE bus. Unfortunately, I don't have a /dev/hdd file. How can I create one?
[10:54] <spc> fyrestrtr: mysql database created, thanks!  someday I'll know what all those options meant....
[10:54] <Lattyware> Top_GEAR: Could you explain in more detail?
[10:55] <purplebody> trappist: the iptables -L looks okay
[10:55] <devo> spc, good luck.  :)
[10:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Lattyware:  gksudo gedit  /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[10:55] <fyrestrtr> spc: to make your life easier, install mysql-administrator and mysql-query-browser -- they are very point-and-click ways to administer mysql (better than phpmyadmin, imo)
[10:55] <trappist> purplebody: yeah if it was a firewall issue you wouldn't be getting an ssh banner.  it's just timeout.
[10:55] <erUSUL> ch: if you cannect it right it should be ther (the dev file) check the master/slave status of the drive and the conections. check if your bios recognice the drive.
[10:55] <spc> fyrestrtr: exactly what I'm looking for.  Thanks!
[10:55] <ucordes> anybody?
[10:55] <ucordes> ...
[10:56] <Top_GEAR> Yes, you have a "Device" Section. Duplicate it and add "Screen 0" to the first und "Screen 1" to the other
[10:56] <purplebody> trappist: ok, thanks.  I'll try that out and be back.
[10:56] <purplebody> scrappy_: thanks for the input.
[10:56] <ch> erUSUL, Ok. Can I check if the bios recognise it without rebooting?
[10:56] <trappist> purplebody: if you need to see more, tail -n100
[10:56] <terrilsj> i just broke my graphics on my laptop, is there a simple command to make my next boot go to a default resolution?
[10:56] <scrappy_> purplebody: heh good luck
[10:56] <trappist> purplebody: as in, tail -n100 /var/log/auth.log
[10:56] <erUSUL> ucordes: try 'aplay /usr/share/sounds/phone.wav'
[10:57] <erUSUL> ch: no :(
[10:57] <Top_GEAR> Duplicate the "Screen" section too  and configure the second e.g. for tv-out or 2nd dvi out
[10:57] <Top_GEAR> Then add a ServerLayout section with Screen 1 rightOf Screen 0
[10:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Top_GEAR: nice work..
[10:57] <bburns_> fyrestrtr are you there?
[10:57] <erUSUL> !fixres > terrilsj
[10:58] <fyrestrtr> sure
[10:58] <terrilsj> thx i'll try that
[10:58] <ucordes> erUSL: doesnt work
[10:58] <ucordes> erUSUL: doesnt work
[10:58] <erUSUL> ucordes: post the erro msg in a pastebin
[10:58] <derrickh> hello everyone, im trying to install xgl but the installation has unmet dependcies libxfont1 and libxomposite1.  i tried upgrading these libraries but it would force me to uninstall various programs.  is there a way to get around this?
[10:58] <Top_GEAR> @Lattyware: I can post my xorg.conf, you can use it as a start
[10:58] <terrilsj> where 'terrilsj' is my login?
[10:58] <Lattyware> ok, thanks.
[10:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Lattyware: Just be sure to have a backup...
[10:59] <erUSUL> derrickh: #ubuntu-xgl
[10:59] <Lattyware> I have an Xorg.conf, I was using the nvidia drivers rather than that method though
[10:59] <derrickh> thanks, erUSUL
[10:59] <erUSUL> derrickh: no problem
[10:59] <fyrestrtr> bburns_: any luck?
[11:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Lattyware: the difference... Top_GEAR has his working
[11:00] <TigerDuck> hmm, what's wrong when my "System --> Preferences" does not have an entry "Multimedia System Selector"?
[11:00] <ucordes> erUSUL: it's not much.. only this time. vlc gave me this: "[00000310]  oss audio output error: cannot open audio device (/dev/dsp)"
[11:00] <Top_GEAR> I use the closed source nvidia driver too
[11:00] <Lattyware> Mine works, it's just full screen stuff spans accross both moniters
[11:00] <terrilsj> "!fixres > terrilsj " gives me error- 'event not found'
[11:00] <erUSUL> TigerDuck: use gstreamer-properties from command line
[11:00] <Top_GEAR> But not with twinview. Xorg has it's own dual screen technics
[11:00] <Jack_Sparrow> TigerDuck: I dont have one either
[11:01] <Lattyware> ok
[11:01] <bburns_> fyrestrtr, what did you say before i asked if you were here, i was called out for something and missed it, sry :X
[11:01] <Elive_user94> yo
[11:01] <nemik> hello, what is the best/easiest way to set up an ubuntu-to-ubuntu graphical remote desktop thing?
[11:01] <erUSUL> ucordes: what gives 'ls -al /dev/snd/' ??
[11:01] <Elive_user94> anyone got Matrox Parhelia video card?
[11:01] <fyrestrtr> bburns_: I said, this isn't fyrestrtr -- but his strangly similar looking human android replacement.
[11:02] <Elive_user94> I'm a musician I need two displays and Matrox adapters are the best.
[11:02] <TigerDuck> Jack_Sparrow: Looks like Ubuntu has some trouble with my onboard VIA sound chip
[11:02] <bburns_> fyrestrtr, ....
[11:02] <Ych> basically an away message?
[11:02] <acojlo> good gnome gui dialer with multiple accounts?
[11:02] <Lattyware> should I remove the stuff I added previously with Twinview?
[11:02] <Ych> a smart one
[11:02] <linux_user400354> how can i mount a hard drive as read only?
[11:02] <bburns_> fyrestrtr, so you cant help me? :(
[11:02] <Jack_Sparrow> linux_user400354:  what format is that drive
[11:02] <fyrestrtr> linux_user400354: mount -t auto -o ro /dev/foo /some/where
[11:02] <linux_user400354> ext3
[11:02] <fyrestrtr> bburns_: ask a question
[11:03] <Elive_user94> linuxuser400354: check your /etc/fstab... check the options. you need to have "ro" options.
[11:03] <bburns_> fyrestrtr, I am trying to start up syslog-ng, I have before but now I restarted and it tells me Address already in use (98)
[11:03] <fyrestrtr> bburns_: restart the machine.
[11:03] <eugman> Can anyone who has reconstructor livecd maker tell me how to remove programs with it?
[11:03] <bburns_> fyrestrtr, are you sure this will work?
[11:03] <Pirate-King> hello
[11:03] <Jack_Sparrow> eugman: that is not public yet
[11:04] <Jack_Sparrow> eugman: you will NOT find anyone
[11:04] <weakwire> can anyone tell my a good program for ubuntu to create a forum ?
[11:04] <Elive_user94> Anyone tried "racer"? The free car simulator? You can find it at http://racer.nl
[11:04] <Top_GEAR> nemik: krfb from kde is the simplest way
[11:04] <eugman> http://reconstructor.aperantis.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1
[11:04] <Pirate-King> if I install ubunt on a pc with windows will it make it's own partition?
[11:04] <fyrestrtr> bburns_: sure.
[11:04] <Elive_user94> It doesn't work with my computer because I've got Matrox gfx card.
[11:04] <eugman> That made me think that wasn't the case.
[11:04] <fyrestrtr> Pirate-King: yes
[11:04] <bburns_> fyrestrtr, okay, brb
[11:04] <Elive_user94> But it should work with Nvidia cards out of the box.
[11:04] <Pirate-King> ok
[11:04] <nemik> top_GEAR: how about gnome since both computers are gnome ones?
[11:04] <Pirate-King> and I can select size?
[11:05] <nUgZ> anyone want to help me with an issue with me linksys wireless network card?
[11:05] <Elive_user94> nUgZ: yeah, sure wanna help, but I don't know wireless stuff.
[11:05] <ucordes> erUSUL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20320
[11:05] <weakwire> anyone?also if possible free
[11:05] <TigerDuck> I am off again ... thanks for the advise
[11:05] <TigerDuck> *wave*
[11:06] <Top_GEAR> nemik: rfb, it doesn't depend on gnome
[11:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Pirate-King: You can manually set it up or just let it use all unallocated space
[11:06] <nUgZ> Elive_user94: probably wont get mich then, i know alot about it and cant getit to work
[11:06] <chopper_> Hi all, ive just installed xgl and compiz and all went fine but when i try and boot into xgl it shows me a brown screen for 15 seconds then boots me back to login?? but when i login normally into gnome all the effects are there working fine?
[11:06] <Pirate-King> ok
[11:06] <Top_GEAR> nemik: it's a simple vnc server / client
[11:06] <nemik> top_gear: thanks a lot, i'll be looking into this!
[11:06] <Lattyware> Top_GEAR: a) should I remove the Twinview sections I added? b) Should I not copy the Moniter section? c) Screen 1 rightOf Screen 0 <- do I put that after 'Screen' instead of 'screen0'?
[11:06] <Pirate-King> you need how much space for ubuntu?
[11:07] <Pirate-King> 10 gigs?
[11:07] <Jack_Sparrow> I really want to remove open-office.. has anyone had luck doing that?
[11:07] <Lattyware> 2gb I think
[11:07] <Ych> can i resize my active ubuntu partition without encountering problems? resize smaller that is
[11:07] <sanmarcos> Ych, sure
[11:07] <weakwire> Jack_Sparrow, sudo apt-get remove open-office don't work?
[11:07] <Ych> how do i best go about doing that?
[11:07] <eugman> Ych, DO NOT DO IT WHILE RUNNING UBUNTU.
[11:07] <jolt> Has anyone gotten the gui RX320 app to make under ubuntu.. I dont see the missing dependancy and its driving me nuts..
[11:07] <sanmarcos> Ych, although you cant do it while running from the partition, just do it from a gparted live cd
[11:07] <scrappy_> Pirate-King: it used to be a little under 2 gigs but for a working system i would do about 5 at least
[11:07] <Ych> yeah wasnt planning on that
[11:07] <Jack_Sparrow> weakwire: had problems doing it the expected ways
[11:07] <Ych> ok thanks
[11:07] <Ych> whats gparted?
[11:08] <Pirate-King> ok thanks scrappy_
[11:08] <chopper_> Gnome partition application
[11:08] <Top_GEAR> Lattyware: Yes, you don't need twinview sections
[11:08] <ciscosurfer> Ych: Gnome Partition Editor
[11:08] <weakwire> gparted
[11:08] <sanmarcos> !gparted
[11:08] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[11:08] <Jack_Sparrow> weakwire: and no that does not work
[11:09] <weakwire> i never needed to do that.i can't help you.
[11:09] <weakwire> sory
[11:09] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[11:09] <Top_GEAR> Lattyware: You have two Monitor, Device and Screen sections and a ServerLayout section
[11:09] <Ych> so if i boot from the liveCD i can just shrink the partition 10 gb and wind up with 10 gigs of unpartitioned space on my hdd?
[11:10] <Ych> as long as i still have over 10gb of room?
[11:10] <Jack_Sparrow> weakwire: It just seems to hook into the os almost as bad as (dare I say it) a MS program
[11:10] <linux_user400354> Ych, why do you want to do that?
[11:10] <spc> i've found my wordpress stuff (installed through synaptic) in usr/share/wordpress.  but the directions I have say to install from wordpress site and extract so that index.php is in var/www.  help?  :)
[11:10] <ucordes> erUSUL: you checked my pastebin?
[11:10] <Top_GEAR> Section "ServerLayout"
[11:10] <Top_GEAR>     Identifier "Dual"
[11:10] <Top_GEAR>     Screen 0 "Screen 0"
[11:10] <Top_GEAR>     Screen 1 "Screen 1" leftOf "Screen 0"
[11:10] <Top_GEAR>     Option "Xinerama" "off"
[11:10] <Top_GEAR>     InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
[11:10] <Jack_Sparrow> ych yes
[11:10] <Top_GEAR>     InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
[11:10] <Top_GEAR> EndSection
[11:10] <Flannel> Top_GEAR: don't paste here.
[11:11] <linux_user400354> !paste
[11:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:11] <ctkt05> in synaptic how do i activate the "univers mirrors"?
[11:11] <Flannel> !tell ctkt05 about repositories
[11:11] <linux_user400354> ctkt05, Settings>Repositories>Add
[11:11] <Jack_Sparrow> ctk settings repos add
[11:11] <Flannel> ctkt05: that... second link, walks you through it, I beleive.  Might be the first
[11:12] <ctkt05> thanks
[11:12] <HeXiOn> hello, excepting killall, is a way (in X if possible) to see active processes??? (like when pressing ctrl-alt-sup in windows)
[11:12] <Lattyware> Top_GEAR: Thank you very much, I'm going to try it now.
[11:13] <CyDrive> I got a question about wine and croosover office. Can i import say all the dll files from a windows machine i own onto this machine running ubuntu would that allow more programs to work?
[11:13] <HeXiOn> hello, excepting killall, is there a way (in X if possible) to see active processes??? (like when pressing ctrl-alt-sup in windows)
[11:13] <linux_user400354> has anyone tried automatrix for the nvidia drivers? last time i installed the nvidia drivers, i had black lines going across my screen.
[11:13] <Top_GEAR> Lattyware: search Lattyware at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:13] <Elive_user94> any racer fans out there?
[11:13] <Top_GEAR> I have posted my xorg.conf
[11:14] <Jack_Sparrow> automatix is like russian roulette...
[11:14] <ucordes> what can i do when my sound stopps workingsuddenly?
[11:14] <fyrestrtr> HeXiOn: system > administration > system monitor
[11:14] <dxdemetriou> Is there a program for tv-card that there is a choice for air antenna or cable?
[11:14] <linux_user400354> HeXiOn, System>Admin>System Monitor
[11:14] <linux_user400354> HeXiOn, run the command top
[11:14] <HeXiOn> cool
[11:14] <HeXiOn> thank you :)
[11:15] <HeXiOn> and can I bind ctrl-alt-sup to launch system monitor?
[11:15] <linux_user400354> HeXiOn, use automatrix to do that
[11:15] <Ych> linux_user400354, i'd like to have winxp
[11:15] <ciscosurfer> linux_user400354: I have never had any issues arise from using Automatix and letting it download the nvidia drivers
[11:15] <scrappy_> ucordes: take a look at amixer
[11:15] <Ych> and had some trouble partitioning when i was installing ubuntu
[11:15] <bhundven> hey all. I got one of these ra2500, and everytime I load the driver, it locks my laptop up
[11:15] <fyrestrtr> !worksforme
[11:15] <Ych> so i just took the whole hdd
[11:15] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[11:15] <Boj> Does anyone know the command to open Bittorrent?
[11:16] <sanmarcos> HeXiOn, remove the ctrl-alt-del line from /etc/innitab and bind it in gnome keyboard shortcuts
[11:16] <linux_user400354> Ych, you are best using vmware server in ubuntu if you want to have windows xp. thats what i do and it works great. its also much faster to switch to xp than it is to reboot your pc.
[11:16] <sanmarcos> Boj, you need a client apt-cache search bittorrent
[11:16] <Top_GEAR> Boj: type 'sudo apt-get install bittorrent' and 'bittorrent' in your terminal
[11:16] <HeXiOn> sanmarcos, why is ctrl-alt-sup in /etc/innitab? is it binded already to do something?
[11:17] <linux_user400354> he doesnt need to install bittorrent. bittorrent comes with ubuntu
[11:17] <sanmarcos> HeXiOn, reboot the machine
[11:17] <ucordes> Simple mixer control 'Mic',0
[11:17] <ucordes>   Capabilities: cvolume cswitch cswitch-joined
[11:17] <ucordes>   Capture channels: Mono
[11:17] <ucordes>   Limits: Capture 0 - 55
[11:17] <ucordes>   Mono: Capture 52 [95%]  [on] 
[11:17] <ucordes> Simple mixer control 'Auto Gain Control',0
[11:17] <ucordes>   Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
[11:17] <ucordes>   Playback channels: Mono
[11:17] <ucordes>   Mono: Playback [off] 
[11:17] <ucordes> shit
[11:17] <HeXiOn> I press it and my machine doesn't reboot...
[11:17] <sanmarcos> HeXiOn, usually with shutdown -a in debian, which can check /etc/shutdown.allow
[11:17] <sanmarcos> HeXiOn, it does in the console
[11:17] <scrappy_> ucordes: ok if i msg you?
[11:17] <HeXiOn> oh, it's true
[11:17] <sanmarcos> HeXiOn, I believe, if ubuntu does not disable it
[11:17] <ucordes> scrappy_: please
[11:17] <HeXiOn> I've done a couple of times, didn't remember :)
[11:18] <sanmarcos> HeXiOn, it is a security concern anyways
[11:18] <Zyclop> is it possible to transmit sound via ssh?
[11:18] <wormdevil2> lol no
[11:18] <sanmarcos> Zyclop, yes
[11:18] <chopper> Hi i just installed xgl and compiz and everything went fine except when i choose xgl session it shows a brown screen then after 15 seconds boots me back to login. anyone had the same problem?
[11:18] <HeXiOn> sanmarcos, thank you :)
[11:18] <Zyclop> sanmarcos: well, how?
[11:18] <Lattyware> Top_GEAR: Didn't work.
[11:18] <sanmarcos> Zyclop, just create regular shell pipes that send data over ssh
[11:19] <erUSUL> ucordes: i've been away, sorry... the output in pastebin seems ok. you have the dev files associated with sound
[11:19] <linux_user400354> does anyone know how to use p7zip? i tried searching the ubuntu wiki. i did not find anything
[11:20] <Top_GEAR> Lattyware: Perhaps your second output is not a tv out or you need ntsc and not pal tv out
[11:20] <linux_user400354> !p7zip
[11:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about p7zip - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:20] <Boj> I have bittorrent installed. When I did 'bittorrent' in terminal i get command not found/
[11:20] <Flannel> chopper: #ubuntu-xgl
[11:20] <linux_user400354> !7-zip
[11:20] <Zyclop> sanmarcos: I don't understand even half of that. Where can I gather more information?
[11:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about 7-zip - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:20] <Top_GEAR> Lattyware: it's just an example
[11:20] <Daishi> ok i have a bit of a problem here...yesterday i had dapper on my laptop but it was doing some weird 61Hz and wouldnt give me the right screen resolution (even after playing around with xorg.conf and such) so i found out on the wiki that breezy works with it for the screen only now my network connection isnt working
[11:20] <chopper> Flannel: Thanks!
[11:20] <Baltazar^2> I've got samba problems; the transfere speed is very low, like 500 kb/s is there a way to speed this up ?
[11:20] <linux_user400354> !7z
[11:20] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde) - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[11:20] <linux_user400354> !7za
[11:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about 7za - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:21] <wormdevil2> !unpack
[11:21] <ubotu> I know nothing about unpack - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:21] <Daishi> i did ifconfig eth0 up and then ran dhclient but it wont config
[11:21] <Daishi> it trys to and fails
[11:21] <Top_GEAR> bye
[11:21] <Daishi> im thinking i may need to try resetting my router but i got two other comps on it and dont really want to /:
[11:21] <Jsl99944704> Does anybody know a Ftp program for ubuntu better than gftp
[11:22] <Daishi> yafc!
[11:22] <Daishi> well its on debian i know that
[11:22] <Baltazar^2> !ftp
[11:22] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[11:22] <Tamale> Jsl99944704: Just use the "connect to server" option in gnome.. it rocks.
[11:22] <scrappy_> Jsl99944704: some people use mc
[11:22] <Jsl99944704> Im in kde right now
[11:22] <linux_user400354> mc is my favorite
[11:22] <Tamale> then konquerer
[11:22] <Jsl99944704> scrappy_, Whats mc
[11:22] <linux_user400354> midnight commander
[11:23] <Daishi> mc is the command i sometimes type by accident when i want to move files
[11:24] <Lattyware> OK, can someone else help. I am using two moniters on a single card, why doesn't this work: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20325
[11:24] <Lattyware> I had them working using the nvidia drivers, but full-screen aps spanned accross both screens
[11:24] <linux_user400354> how can i use p7zip from the command line?
[11:25] <Boj> I have bittorrent installed. When I did 'bittorrent' in terminal i get command not found? Any ideas
[11:25] <wormdevil2> how long does it take to install (unpacking the base system)
[11:25] <erUSUL> Boj: is btdownload or something type bt and hit <TAB>
[11:25] <linux_user400354> Boj, type bt and hit tab a few times
[11:25] <Lattyware> Boj: Might be under bt?
[11:26] <Jack> Ubuntu claims my cd is in use and won't eject... i've closed everything - no joy... any ideas?
[11:26] <regeya> linux_user400354: the command is p7z, I seem to remember they have a -h option
[11:26] <HeXiOn> linux_user400354, thank for your help with ctrl-alt-sup, I didn't say before :)
[11:26] <Boj> btdownloadcurses ?
[11:26] <scrappy_> Jack: paperclip :)
[11:26] <mitch_> Boj, there's a gnome-btdownload
[11:27] <Jack> scrappy_, other than that - linux goes fucking loopy then
[11:27] <Howitzer> Does anybody know how to open a new tab in XChat?
[11:27] <linux_user400354> HeXiOn, YW, are you using automatrix to do that?
[11:27] <HeXiOn> yes :)
[11:27] <Jack> scrappy_, not to mention my cd drive
[11:27] <HeXiOn> linux_user400354, I think I have to reboot cause still doesn't work
[11:27] <jolt> Xchat | New |
[11:27] <regeya> automatix.../me cues the Arnold Rimmer song
[11:27] <Lattyware> Got my problem solved.
[11:28] <Megaqwerty> how do you delete folders with a lock in the upper right hand corner of them?
[11:28] <linux_user400354> regeya, bash: p7z: command not found
[11:28] <linux_user400354> sudo rm filename
[11:28] <Boj> yeah gnome-btdownload is for opening a new torrent. I just want to get the application running at the download progress screen
[11:28] <Megaqwerty> thanks
[11:28] <Howitzer> linux_user400354, you need to install p7zip and use the regular file-roller to open the archive
[11:28] <linux_user400354> MeGaQuArK, sorry, its "sudo rm -r foldername"
[11:28] <scrappy_> Jack: you could umount -f but im not sure its safe
[11:28] <majd> hey
[11:29] <linux_user400354> Howitzer, i want to use p7zip from the command line
[11:29] <majd> i ran glxgears in terminal and i got a very smooth and fast animation
[11:29] <scrappy_> Jack: should be on a cd
[11:29] <Howitzer> try p7zip then
[11:29] <keh7d> !wine
[11:29] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:29] <regeya> majd: so that's a problem, then
[11:29] <majd> then i tried installing my video card's driver following http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide and now i get a very slow and choppy animation
[11:29] <Jack_Sparrow> majd: try glxgears -printfps
[11:29] <regeya> meh
[11:29] <majd> did i just do something very wrong?
[11:29] <Jack> scrappy_, eh? should be on a cd?
[11:29] <Jack> scrappy_, forcing it didnt work
[11:29] <Howitzer> lol Jack_Sparrow i just saw Pirates of the Carrabian 10 minutes ago :D
[11:30] <linux_user400354> Howitzer, do you know how to use p7zip?
[11:30] <Megaqwert1> I got this error message:
[11:30] <Megaqwert1> sudo: rem: command not found
[11:30] <Howitzer> no
[11:30] <Howitzer> but i'm looking for it
[11:30] <majd> 174-187 fps
[11:30] <majd> now it just shot up to 352 fps
[11:30] <Howitzer> regeya, is right it's 7z
[11:30] <linux_user400354> regeya, i have two binaries, 7z and 7za. what's the difference? which one should i use?
[11:30] <scrappy_> Jack: is there a bash sehll or someting still open? other than than not sure
[11:30] <majd> oh wait
[11:30] <Jack_Sparrow> majd: my nvidia pci-e is 6000+
[11:30] <Jack> nope, i closed them
[11:30] <Jack> mount is a retard
[11:31] <majd> when the window is in focus, i get 160 fps, when the terminal is in focus, i get 352 fps
[11:31] <Jack_Sparrow> majd: What card are you using?
[11:31] <majd> i have an ati radeon 9200
[11:31] <Jack_Sparrow> majd: Does not sound like the drivers are working right
[11:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati
[11:31] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:31] <keh7d> anyone had problems with wine not saving drives when they are added? is there a better channel for this?
[11:31] <erUSUL> keh7d: #wine ??
[11:32] <regeya> doop doop doop...dialup in 2006...
[11:32] <scrappy_> jack well i broke down and man umount try umount -l
[11:32] <looksaus> majd, you are using the free software drivers, right?
[11:32] <Jack_Sparrow> keh7d: #winehq
[11:32] <linux_user400354> Jack_Sparrow, you could use automatrix to install the nvidia non-free drivers
[11:32] <Howitzer> no you shouldn't
[11:32] <majd> looksaus, i don't know...when i run fglrxinfo i get OpenGL vendor string: Mesa Project
[11:32] <Jack_Sparrow> linux_user400354: I would NEVER do automatix to my pc
[11:33] <majd> Jack_Sparrow, "and is equal to or above 9500 "
[11:33] <majd> i have 9200
[11:33] <Howitzer> don't suggest applications of which you don't know 100% what they do
[11:33] <looksaus> majd, you have the luxury that you don't need the fglrx driver
[11:33] <linux_user400354> i never had problems with automatrix
[11:33] <Jsl99944704> Help, In synaptic i cand find MC
[11:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Someone having dialup problems?
[11:33] <looksaus> the 9200 is supposed to be the last card that is well supported by free software drivers
[11:33] <Boj> Does anyone know who the person with the green shirt on the Ubuntu support page is?
[11:33] <linux_user400354> Jsl99944704, enable universe and multiverse repositories, then reload in synaptic and you will find it
[11:33] <linux_user400354> !synaptic
[11:33] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[11:33] <Megaqwert1> linux_user400345: When I did "sudo rem filename" I got this: "sudo: rem: command not found"
[11:34] <looksaus> majd, sorry if I'm confusing you with this
[11:34] <DanieC> Anybody runs Linux on a Toshiba laptop?
[11:34] <BHSPitMonkey> where can I set how often my Time/Date gets updated over NTP
[11:34] <linux_user400354> MeGaQuArK, `sudo rm -r foldername`
[11:34] <Ubuntu_noob> my dad fdoes
[11:34] <Megaqwert1> oh sorry
[11:34] <Megaqwert1> thanks
[11:34] <Howitzer> just do it yourself, 'sudo apt-get install build-essentials' && wget http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8762/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8762-pkg1.run && chmod a+x http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8762/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8762-pkg1.run && ./http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8762/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8762-pkg1.run
[11:34] <Howitzer> that's it :o
[11:34] <Howitzer> eek
[11:34] <scrappy_> Jsl99944704: its lower case mc its in universe bear in mind its a terminal app
[11:34] <Howitzer> spam
[11:34] <Ubuntu_noob> links for Ubuntu install guides again?
[11:35] <Jsl99944704> Then i think i have it
[11:35] <sprink> what's the root password?
[11:35] <BHSPitMonkey> Howitzer, I disagree with your command...
[11:35] <Howitzer> Ubuntu_noob, you really don't need a guide to install Ubuntu
[11:35] <Howitzer> oh yeah, latest part is wrong
[11:35] <Howitzer> *last
[11:36] <sprink> how do I set the root password?
[11:36] <linux_user400354> my grandmother can install ubuntu without a guide. i think ubuntu_noob can too
[11:36] <Howitzer> oh yeah, need to switch to init 3 too
[11:36] <Jack_Sparrow> !root
[11:36] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:36] <linux_user400354> sprink, passwd?
[11:36] <Howitzer> sprink, 'sudo passwd root'
[11:36] <Boj> Ubuntu_noob You basically stick the disk in a disk drive and boot from it and follow the onscreen instructions
[11:36] <sprink> I dont want to type dudo every single command that needs root privs
[11:36] <majd> looksaus, ok...umm i need some help retracing my steps
[11:36] <erUSUL> !root > sprink
[11:36] <majd> cause whatever i did i shouldn't have done
[11:36] <BHSPitMonkey> sprink, do you know about "sudo -i" ?
[11:36] <Ubuntu_noob> every time i install it i get a blank screen with an _ in the top left corner and thats all i get after it reconizzes everything
[11:36] <erUSUL> sprink: use sudo -i
[11:37] <Jsl99944704> Is there any ftp like firezilla for Ubuntu?
[11:37] <erUSUL> Jsl99944704: gftp
[11:37] <BHSPitMonkey> Jsl99944704, filezilla?
[11:37] <majd> i was following http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[11:37] <npster> I need the utilities for Abit motherboards especial OC Guru. Where can I get them for Linux ?
[11:37] <majd> so whatever the guide told me to do in the first method, i need to undo
[11:37] <linux_user400354> Jsl99944704, can i message you?
[11:38] <Jsl99944704> linux_user400354, Im not logged in (Lost my Freenode pass)
[11:38] <Jsl99944704> linux_user400354, But you can make the text red.
[11:38] <Howitzer> So nobody knows how to open a new tab in XChat? :(
[11:38] <linux_user400354> Jsl99944704, its too much to put in here
[11:38] <looksaus> majd, you mean you want to try and uninstall this fglrx stuff
[11:38] <looksaus> ?
[11:39] <majd> well...yeah
[11:39] <Jsl99944704> linux_user400354, Ill try makeing a new account
[11:39] <majd> the only thing i know how to do is uninstall xorg-driver-fglrx
[11:39] <Jsl99944704> BHSPitMonkey, Filezilla yeah
[11:39] <npster> Where can I get the utilities for Abit motherboards ?
[11:39] <BHSPitMonkey> Howitzer, CTRL+T? duh.
[11:39] <npster> for Linux
[11:39] <looksaus> yes, and you are a bit scared things won't be working afterwards?
[11:39] <majd> right
[11:39] <looksaus> if you want to still have some help afterwards, you could install a command line irc client
[11:40] <BHSPitMonkey> Howitzer, ask application-specific questions in THEIR channels, by the way... there IS a #xchat
[11:40] <majd> looksaus, such as?
[11:40] <looksaus> like... I can't seem to remember, let me check
[11:40] <looksaus> long time since I used it
[11:40] <majd> k
[11:40] <Jman88888> ls
[11:41] <Jman88888> linux_user400354, Ok try messaging me
[11:41] <looksaus> irssi
[11:41] <npster> Where can I download the utilities for Abit guru motherboards for Linux ??? HELP?
[11:41] <looksaus> majd, ^
[11:41] <xored> free for a mix / cod2 or warsow
[11:41] <cowmilk> i can't get flashplugin-nonfree. pls see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20313. what must i do?
[11:41] <Ubuntu_noob> Is there  a plugin to play .mp3 files in ubuntu>
[11:42] <erUSUL> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[11:42] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.63.3ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)
[11:42] <Zyclop> is it possible to view pictures on the tty?
[11:42] <erUSUL> cowmilk: have you enabled multiverse??
[11:42] <HeXiOn> anyone here has a logitech mouse with extra-buttons?
[11:42] <cowmilk> erUSUL: yes, i believe so
[11:42] <cowmilk> erUSUL: but how can i make sure?
[11:42] <erUSUL> cowmilk: check it
[11:42] <Ych> I have an ms  mouse with extra buttons...
[11:42] <looksaus> cowmilk, cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:42] <cowmilk> erUSUL: how do i check it via terminal?
[11:43] <Ych> !topic
[11:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about topic - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:43] <cowmilk> looksaus: thankn
[11:43] <Ych> whooops
[11:43] <npster> Is 46 C normal for a P4 processor ?
[11:43] <Ych> yes
[11:43] <HeXiOn> Ych, do u have the buttons enabled?
[11:43] <Ych> thats almost cool
[11:43] <looksaus> !mp3
[11:43] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:43] <Ych> P4s are on fire
[11:43] <Bisen> hi everybody :-)
[11:43] <Ych> yes i have them enabled
[11:43] <Ych> !mouse
[11:43] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[11:43] <looksaus> Ubuntu_noob, ^^^
[11:43] <HeXiOn> Ych, thanks, I'll read the howto :)
[11:44] <Ych> thats how i did it :)
[11:44] <Bisen> somebody can help me making a wireless connection from my laptop to my router?
[11:44] <erUSUL> cowmilk: less /etc/apt/sources.list and look for a line enabling it
[11:44] <npster> Is 46 C normal for a Intel Pentium 4 processor ???
[11:44] <Bisen> just installed Ubuntu, so could use some detailed help
[11:44] <cowmilk> looksaus: erUSUL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20329 i think multiverse is enabled. what do you think?
[11:45] <Ubuntu_noob> Ubuntu or Free BSD?
[11:45] <cowmilk> looksaus: erUSUL do i have to add "mulitiverse" to line 23 in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20329
[11:45] <Ubuntu_noob> which is better?
[11:45] <cowmilk> ?
[11:45] <looksaus> cowmilk, no, it isn't
[11:45] <npster> IS 46 degrees centigrade normal for a Pentium 4 processor ?
[11:45] <Ubuntu_noob> ya
[11:45] <Daishi> ok i think i found the problem...how do you change the subnet mask that dhcp uses?
[11:45] <looksaus> Ubuntu_noob, for what kind of use?
[11:45] <looksaus> Bisen, what wifi chipset?
[11:45] <Daishi> its set to 255.255.255.255 and should be 255.255.255.0
[11:45] <Ubuntu_noob> Learning to use.
[11:45] <cowmilk> looksaus:  where must i add "multiverse"? what line, erUSUL?
[11:46] <Jack_Sparrow> npster:  that is cold
[11:46] <looksaus> Ubuntu_noob, start with ubuntu
[11:46] <Ubuntu_noob> then free bsd?
[11:46] <npster> And is 50 degrees centigrade normal for a Pentium 4 processor?
[11:46] <JackONeill> Hey, I want to add a game to my gnome menu... (had to manually install it and it has no icon) - i've got alacarte menu editor - but i don't see anything for 'add icon' - any ideas!!!?
[11:46] <Ubuntu_noob> npster, no  40-46 is
[11:46] <looksaus> cowmilk, just add the word "multiverse" at the end of line 8
[11:46] <erUSUL> cowmilk: no, it is not. add multiverse to the end of the line 23 or use source-o-matic to generate a sources.list with multiverse
[11:46] <npster> Jack_Sparrow: What do you mean ?
[11:46] <Jeruvy> npster: it's not unusual
[11:46] <ucordes> when i run alsamixer i see card=camera. how can i select my sound card?
[11:47] <fredxor> where can I find the installation manual?
[11:47] <JackONeill> oh nm found it!
[11:47] <cowmilk> looksaus, erUSUL, line 8 OR line 23? which, please?
[11:47] <Jack_Sparrow> npster: You are fine
[11:47] <Ych> npster, yes i said it before, thats quite cold
[11:47] <Ych> my dads p4 prescott runs at 58ish
[11:47] <erUSUL> cowmilk: i said 23 in the last msg. can you read?
[11:47] <npster> Sometimes I get 57 but not for a long time, Is that normal ???
[11:47] <looksaus> cowmilk, both are ok, but 23 is probably the cleanest place to put it
[11:47] <cowmilk> erUSUL: yes i can. but i can be confused.
[11:47] <Ubuntu_noob> Is it possible to start a game server for Call Of Duty 2 on Ubuntu with the linux source?
[11:47] <cowmilk> looksaus: why do you say so?
[11:47] <Jack_Sparrow> mine runs 46 to 50 normally but up to 55 when really pushing it
[11:48] <Ych> yes
[11:48] <Ych> also normal
[11:48] <Ych> under load ive seen it hit 70
[11:48] <Ych> even my amd does 50 if i load it hard enough
[11:48] <looksaus> cowmilk, not too important, but because universe and multiverse are closer to each other
[11:48] <Ych> and its got the biggest market heatsink on it
[11:48] <looksaus> in the content they serve
[11:48] <cowmilk> how do i edit sourceslist in terminal, looksaus, erUSUL?
[11:48] <Ubuntu_noob> i have an xp 210+AMD for my game maching and pushing it it hits 44
[11:48] <looksaus> sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:48] <fredxor> could someone please tell me where to find the installation manual? it keeps freezing during the install.
[11:49] <npster> One good recommendation NEVER BUY FROM ABIT, don't use the clock that they give you, YOU will Freak OUT !!!
[11:49] <Jeruvy> Ubuntu_noob: AMD's run a bit cooler, depending on type, than Intels
[11:49] <looksaus> (you could also do it using synaptic or other GUI tools, but since you seem to like the terminal)
[11:49] <xeh> sudo apt-get install pants :(
[11:49] <Jman88888> Am i the only one who keeps having firefox crash on me?
[11:49] <cowmilk> looksaus: how do i save changes in vi? and exit?\
[11:50] <looksaus> cowmilk, you'll have to read a vi tutorial for that
[11:50] <cowmilk> looksaus: please
[11:50] <looksaus> :wq
[11:50] <cowmilk> looksaus: thankq
[11:50] <looksaus> but really, getting used to vi is a 30 min investment of your time
[11:50] <majd> cowmilk, :wq
[11:50] <cowmilk> looksaus: perhaps,
[11:50] <looksaus> but it will pay off sooo much
[11:50] <cowmilk> looksaus: but i don't want to invest untill i know which is the best terminal editor
[11:50] <strangy> nano
[11:50] <strangy> :)
[11:50] <majd> looksaus, i learnt vim
[11:51] <tolstoy> is the mod_mono packager here?
[11:51] <majd> but i can't get used to it
[11:51] <looksaus> strangy, you joker
[11:51] <majd> been using it for 2 weeks
[11:51] <looksaus> majd, yes, vim
[11:51] <npster> Ubuntu keeps my CPU cool, windows really is stupid, there I get a lot of variations, Ubuntu constant 46. WOW
[11:51] <looksaus>  very good choice
[11:51] <strangy> looksaus: yes a little
[11:51] <xeh> npster i think its fans that keep it cool not your os...
[11:51] <tolstoy> Want to know the proper Dapper way of deploying an app, rather than editing packaged config files that say "do not edit".
[11:52] <looksaus> heheh, he's gone
[11:52] <looksaus> majd, did you manage to get up and running with irssi?
[11:52] <majd> yeah
[11:52] <looksaus> ok
[11:52] <majd> just /server and /join
[11:52] <gnomefreak> tolstoy: to deploy (run) and app type the app name in terminal or use the menu
[11:52] <majd> just like xchat
[11:52] <linux_user400354> Jman88888, can you not get my messages?
[11:52] <linux_user400354> !wireless
[11:52] <linux_user400354> cowmilk, sudo apt-get update
[11:52] <linux_user400354> !best
[11:52] <npster> xeh: I know but I think that Xubuntu is making a order of execution of some sort, it doesn't pushes it. Windows just executes. There is something to it...
[11:52] <linux_user400354> Jman88888, are you here?
[11:53] <gnomefreak> linux_user400354: dont play with the bot
[11:53] <majd> looksaus, you understand what i need to do right?
[11:53] <tolstoy> gnomefreak: I mean I have an asp.net app I want to run.  Is there a dir I can drop it in?  Do I edit /etc/mod-mono/conf.d?  Etc.
[11:53] <gnomefreak> matter of fact where is it :(
[11:53] <Ubuntu_noob> When you order cd's do they ship to your physical address or your po box?
[11:53] <gnomefreak> !test
[11:53] <looksaus> majd, worst case scenario is that you'll have to reconfigure your x server
[11:53] <looksaus> so not too much of a problem
[11:54] <looksaus> but please try to keep it a bit short
[11:54] <npster> What is PWM ???
[11:54] <looksaus> because it's about midnight over here
[11:54] <looksaus> majd, and I would like to go to bed in +- 30 min
[11:54] <npster> looksaus: you mean 23:55
[11:54] <looksaus> yup
[11:54] <OneTruth> Hey guys, quick easy question. I'm installing a wiki web app and need to give permissions to the user that runs CGI scripts on ubuntu. Is that user www-data?
[11:54] <gnomefreak> npster: pm = private message
[11:55] <npster> no PWM, it is on my Abit Clock
[11:55] <majd> looksaus, lol k
[11:55] <majd> just note
[11:55] <majd> when i run glxgears
[11:55] <majd> i get
[11:55] <Gun_Smoke> Are apt-get and aptitude the EXACT same command?
[11:55] <gnomefreak> Gun_Smoke: no
[11:55] <xeh> when i run glxgears it does not inform me of my fps in terminal :(
[11:55] <Ych> pulse width modulation
[11:55] <Ych> is pwn
[11:55] <Ych> pwm
[11:55] <tolstoy> gnomefreak: the answer is in /usr/share/doc/mono-apache-server.
[11:55] <majd> X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
[11:55] <Gun_Smoke> And the difference is?
[11:55] <Ych> its a way to regulate voltage
[11:55] <npster> Ych: Ok I know now thanks
[11:55] <gnomefreak> Gun_Smoke: the way they handle packages/depends
[11:56] <Ych> ok
[11:56] <Ych> np
[11:56] <_dna> http://www.animeleet.com
[11:56] <_dna> http://www.animeleet.com
[11:56] <_dna> http://www.animeleet.com
[11:56] <looksaus> hm, I have a laptop here with a 9200 and it runs... rather slow, but very stable
[11:56] <gnomefreak> Gun_Smoke: in alot of cases if you dont know what your doing aptitude is not really a great idea to use
[11:56] <looksaus> (it runs glxgears, I mean)
[11:56] <Jman88888> linux_user400354, Hello?
[11:56] <OneTruth> What is the user that runs CGI scripts on ubuntu?
[11:56] <Gun_Smoke> gnomefreak:  Is there someplace I can read about the two side by side.
[11:56] <looksaus>  /kick _dna
[11:56] <Gun_Smoke> gnomefreak:  and apt-get is pretty much safe bet most of the time?
[11:57] <majd> looksaus, mine doesn't run.
[11:57] <Jack_Sparrow> glxgears -printfps
[11:57] <gnomefreak> Gun_Smoke: most of time but still wouldnt use it mindlessly
[11:57] <majd> dunno if you read what i said before...but, it used to run fast and nice, after i followed a tutorial to install a driver, it's very choppy
[11:57] <majd> so i was just looking for a way to revert back
[11:57] <gnomefreak> Gun_Smoke: yes wiki.ubuntu.com search for apt or aptitude
[11:57] <majd> the tutorial said to use
[11:57] <majd> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:57] <Gun_Smoke> gnomefreak:  Thanks.
[11:57] <majd> and i just pressed enter a lot
[11:58] <gnomefreak> Gun_Smoke: man apt ;)
[11:58] <looksaus> yes, you can mostly do that again _after_ removing flgrx first
[11:58] <looksaus> or look if you have an old config file left
[11:58] <looksaus> in /etc/X11
[11:58] <Ubuntu_noob> is there a way to set ubuntu with a remote desktop and be able to work on it from a remote computer?
[11:58] <OneTruth> what is the default apache installation path?
[11:58] <gnomefreak> Gun_Smoke: yw
[11:58] <Daishi> whats the command to reconfigure networking? dpkg-reconfigure what?
[11:58] <looksaus> maybe check that one first
[11:59] <OneTruth> Ubuntu_noob:  Yep, you just need to use VNC
[11:59] <Gun_Smoke> gnomefreak:  Sticking with Synaptic is the best way to go then eh'?
[11:59] <looksaus> majd, do you have old xorg.conf files backed up inside /etc/X11
[11:59] <looksaus> ?
[11:59] <majd> k
[11:59] <majd> let me check
[11:59] <gnomefreak> Gun_Smoke: i never use synaptic. i can hoenstly say ive only used it a hand full of times
[11:59] <Gun_Smoke> Really
[11:59] <sprink> aptitude is the best
[11:59] <Ubuntu_noob> thank you because there are time when i cant have a monitor on it and i dont wat to carry a 50lb monitor in here to work with it
[11:59] <gnomefreak> Gun_Smoke: safe yes synaptic or apt really they are both fairly safe
[12:00] <majd> looksaus, what would the old files be called?
[12:00] <greg_> Anyone have any success getting 32 bit libflashplugin.so working in 64 bit firefox using nspluginwrapper?
[12:00] <majd> i have a whole bunch of xorg.conf files
[12:00] <gnomefreak> sprink: this is no a debate on best or better than
[12:00] <looksaus> something like  xorg.conf.20060807225356
[12:00] <Daishi> !network
[12:00] <majd> yeah 20060811175922
[12:00] <gnomefreak> Daishi: bot is not working