[12:10] <ryanakca> ??? I'm running edgy... but then... I dist-upgraded... so that's different... got a link?
[12:11] <imbrandon> no i'm running edgy and have the purple goodness also
[12:12] <imbrandon> ryanakca: http://imbrandon.sytes.net/ss1.png
[12:13] <imbrandon> see
[12:14] <nixternal> imbrizzle, i see i see ;)
[12:14] <ryanakca> odd... and you dist-upgraded?
[12:14] <ryanakca> or fresh installed... because I got nothing of the sort :(
[12:14] <imbrandon> yes, i've been running edgy months on here
[12:14] <toma> ah, my battery is 50% now, 10 minutes left
[12:14] <imbrandon> well since the repos opened
[12:14] <imbrandon> toma: ouch
[12:14] <imbrandon> heh
[12:15] <toma> imbrandon: i better warn the electricity company l-0
[12:15] <nixternal> lol @ toma, mine too
[12:15] <ryanakca> toma: your battery is only 20 minutes?
[12:15] <toma> ryanakca: no, i'm plugged into the wall
[12:16] <imbrandon> he was being sarcastic about the new pm applet
[12:16] <toma> so it must be measuring the electricity company, no?
[12:16] <ryanakca> ah
[12:16] <imbrandon> its reading something wrong
[12:16] <toma> imbrandon: i dont have a laptop, should not be there at all if you ask me
[12:17] <ryanakca> imbrandon: got a link to the theme? (like to download it so I can install it in kcontrol)
[12:17] <imbrandon> toma: +1 but this is edgy ;)
[12:17] <imbrandon> ryanakca: its not a "theme" its kubuntu-default-settings
[12:17] <toma> imbrandon: sure, np
[12:31] <nixternal> ok, b4 i go into bug mode, anyone know of nvidia issues and edgy?
[12:32] <imbrandon> yea that it dont work ( nor ati ) with xorg 7.1
[12:32] <imbrandon> well known
[12:32] <toma> imbrandon: do you also approve sync requests?
[12:33] <imbrandon> i can ack them
[12:33] <nixternal> lovely
[12:33] <imbrandon> yea
[12:33] <imbrandon> toma got one ?
[12:33] <toma> imbrandon: i'm building to see if the debian version builds
[12:33] <toma> so, one sec
[12:33] <imbrandon> k
[12:34] <imbrandon> i'm going afk for a few, pm me the bug number , i'll get it when i get back
[12:50] <toma> imbrandon: ping
[12:51] <imbrandon> pong
[12:52] <toma> imbrandon: hobbsee told me only cdbs packages can be synced, right?
[12:52] <imbrandon> not that i'm aware of, any package can be synced as long as the ubuntu changes can be overridden
[12:52] <toma> k
[12:54] <toma> imbrandon: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/showimg/+bug/56089
[12:54] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 56089 in showimg "Please sync 0.9.5-1 from debian unstable" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  
[12:55] <imbrandon> kk
[12:55] <toma> o, forgot to mention, it builds on pbuilder edgy
[12:56] <imbrandon> this uses gnome or kde.mk ?
[12:56] <toma> no
[12:56] <toma> no patches
[12:57] <imbrandon> i mean that dh_iconcache is in {gnome,kde}.mk so it will get picked up
[12:57] <imbrandon> does it have either one of those in the rules ?
[12:58] <toma> nope
[12:58] <toma> ok, so it can not sync
[12:58] <toma> that is what hobsee meant ;-)
[12:58] <imbrandon> heh yea probably
[12:59] <imbrandon> ok reject that request , then grab the debian src and re-add dh_iconache
[12:59] <toma> yes sir
[12:59] <imbrandon> then it should be good
[12:59] <imbrandon> brb dinner time
[01:01] <toma> imbrandon: then there is no reason to merge...
[01:02] <imbrandon> if you grab the merge & or add it to the debian src thats mergin
[01:07] <toma> sure, it's building ;-)
[01:22] <omeow> hum
[01:22] <omeow> My 2nd monitor won't come out of the freeze.
[01:29] <toma> imbrandon: you can grab it from http://kubuntu.omat.nl
[01:30] <Hobbsee> morning all
[01:30] <imbrandon> toma sure, what am i grabbing ?
[01:30] <toma> imbrandon: showimg
[01:32] <toma> imbrandon: kscope is also a new version, you might want to upload that one too
[01:32] <imbrandon> sure , when i get back on voyager i'll grab them and look
[01:33] <imbrandon> ( eta ~ 2 hours )  , toma i'll ping ya when i upload them
[01:33] <toma> i'll probably be asleep in two hours ;-)
[01:34] <imbrandon> hehe ok i'll email ya letting ya know i did it
[01:34] <imbrandon> unless Hobbsee  wants to look at them now ( i have no access to my build machine atm , at a friends house on my lappy )
[01:34] <imbrandon> if not i will when i get home ;)
[01:36] <imbrandon> Hobbsee: btw one in universe and one in main would be a nightmare, would be better to promote that plugin to main if feasible
[01:36] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: of the libnjb stuff?  the entire source would have to be upgraded to main.
[01:36] <Hobbsee> we cant have amarok dep'ing on a universe package
[01:37] <imbrandon> exactly and an amarok package in main and universe would be a night mare like one of the amarok dev's sugested
[01:38] <Hobbsee> yeah, i'm not doing that.
[01:39] <imbrandon> heh what chan ?
[01:40] <Hobbsee> not allowed to tell
[01:40] <Hobbsee> it's a super secret one
[01:40] <imbrandon> did you get on the ML ( if you plan on keeping it mainttained ) heh
[01:40] <Hobbsee> no, havent found out what it is
[01:40] <Hobbsee> havent been game enough to ask, either
[01:41] <Hobbsee> and i havent looked :P
[01:41] <imbrandon> lol
[01:43] <toma> Hobbsee: !!!
[01:43] <Hobbsee> toma!!!
[01:43] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: dunno if i'll keep it maintained.  i just am this time, as i've got some bugfixes i want to add.
[01:43] <toma> imbrandon, Hobbsee: please ack: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/tictactoe/+bug/56095
[01:43] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 56095 in tictactoe "please sync 0.8.1-4 from debian" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  
[01:44] <Hobbsee> toma: do the original tarballs happen to match?
[01:45] <toma> Hobbsee: which ones?
[01:46] <Hobbsee> toma: orig.tar.gz of debian and ubuntu
[01:46] <Hobbsee> 2fa7b2e04febd6ad93a075797c50e231
[01:46] <Hobbsee> 2fa7b2e04febd6ad93a075797c50e231
[01:46] <Hobbsee> oh nice
[01:46] <Hobbsee> wonder why they manually merged it then
[01:46] <toma> yes, md5 is the same
[01:46] <toma> ah, you found that out quickly
[01:47] <Hobbsee> packages.{ubuntu,debian}.com
[01:48] <Hobbsee> ah, no debhelper, so it ftbfs :P
[01:49] <toma> pbuilder edgy was ok
[01:50] <imbrandon> pbuilder should grab debhelper no problems , btw Hobbsee your *build are wrong 
[01:50] <toma> what's that darker green on the mergeomatic page?
[01:50] <Hobbsee> toma: i think it's a list of importance
[01:50] <Hobbsee> toma: done
[01:51] <toma> thnxs
[01:52] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: hmmm?
[01:52] <Hobbsee> my *build?
[01:52] <toma> what are 'updated merges' ?
[01:52] <Hobbsee> toma: means that someone merged them, then debian updated them again
[01:52] <toma> eiks
[01:52] <imbrandon> like edgybuild script IE they use the host system for somethings not like "pbuilder-edgy build some.dsc"
[01:53] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: oh yeah, true
[01:53] <imbrandon> afaik they use pdebuild and its a bit diffrent 
[01:53] <Hobbsee> i think the buildd's use the pbuilder-edgy build foo.dsc
[01:54] <Hobbsee> edgybuild uses pdebuild
[01:54] <imbrandon> not realy it means voyager needs alot of deps installed if its used
[01:54] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: actually, doesnt seem to be that many
[01:54] <Hobbsee> i mean, there's some dev stuff, like cdbs, debhelper, etc, but..
[01:54] <imbrandon> still not the "right" way ;)
[01:54] <Hobbsee> toma: hehe
[01:55] <imbrandon> becouse i modify and have experimentaly sources
[01:55] <imbrandon> on the main system
[01:55] <imbrandon> thats not geood to be getting stuff from
[01:55] <imbrandon> as with pdebuild
[01:55] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: bleh.  if it fails on the buildds because of the difference between pbuilder build and pdebuild...
[01:55] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: probably true.  i'll change that script if it turns out to become a problem, i supsect
[01:55] <imbrandon> Hobbsee: it may not fail but thats not what i;m saying
[01:55] <Hobbsee> seeing as otherwise you have to revubuild, then pbuilder build .dsc
[01:55] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: true, i get your point
[01:56] <imbrandon> or you could just make the edgybuild do both ;)
[01:56] <imbrandon> see ?
[01:56] <Hobbsee> that takes longer :P
[01:57] <imbrandon> but its the right way and dosent fail if i have broken stuff on the system, becouse it uses a chroot like it should , i found out thats why it was throwing the gcc errors for you beofre
[01:57] <imbrandon> on intrepid
[01:58] <imbrandon> it abstracts the host and the buld system to make it "clean" heheh
[02:08] <Hobbsee> ahh....
[02:12] <toma> imbrandon, Hobbsee: last one for this evening: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kipi-plugins/+bug/56099
[02:12] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 56099 in kipi-plugins "Please sync 0.1.2-1 from debian" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  
[02:19] <Hobbsee> toma: why is the libfam-dev not correct?
[02:20] <toma> Hobbsee: it was a temp. buildd problem
[02:20] <toma> Hobbsee: digikam needed a rebuild for that too
[02:20] <Hobbsee> toma: ah right
[02:22] <toma> i also maintain two of the plugins ;-)
[02:23] <Hobbsee> toma: true
[02:27] <Hobbsee> hi neoncode 
[02:28] <nixternal> i got a switcher!
[02:29] <nixternal> im in the process of setting up a Kubuntu computer for my momma ;)
[02:30] <toma> imbrandon: kvirc is probably a easy candidate for syncing, but i'm not 100% sure, as the changelogs are not very clear. 
[02:31] <bddebian> Howdy
[02:31] <toma> imbrandon: you toched it last, so you might see it within the sec
[02:31] <toma> bddebian: hi
[02:32] <bddebian> Hello toma
[02:49] <Hobbsee> toma: confirming
[02:50] <toma> Hobbsee: thanks again
[02:50] <Hobbsee> :)
[02:55] <toma> ok, night all
[02:55] <Hobbsee> night toma 
[03:38] <DaSkreech> Hi
[03:42] <Hobbsee> hi DaSkreech 
[03:42] <DaSkreech> Hello
[03:42] <DaSkreech> My Sound is screwed :-(
[03:44] <Hobbsee> ah
[03:51] <DaSkreech> How are you Hobbsee?
[03:51] <bddebian> Heya DaSkreech
[03:51] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: good, looking at some amarok bugs.
[03:51] <DaSkreech> bddebian: Heya!
[03:51] <Hobbsee> bddebian: do we still need to fix https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/14918 ?
[03:51] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 14918 in kdebase "kdm is missing dependency on lsb-base" [High,Confirmed]  
[03:52] <bddebian> Hobbsee: Hmm, dunno
[03:52] <DaSkreech> WE have a very high incidence of people in the #kubuntu channel not getting any help
[03:53] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: indeed.  answer them?
[03:53] <DaSkreech> Sorry I was away I'm just going over the log
[03:53] <Hobbsee> yeah
[03:53] <DaSkreech> I answer as many as I can while I'm at the computer
[03:53] <Hobbsee> yep
[03:54] <DaSkreech> I'm not so much worried about the ones who come in and aask and then log out 5 minutes later
[03:54] <Hobbsee> well, yeah
[03:54] <Hobbsee> #kubuntu is shocking for help though
[03:54] <DaSkreech> I'm more concenred with the ones who login while people are talking around them and ask two or three times then log out
[03:55] <Hobbsee> true
[03:55] <DaSkreech> Also ubotu needs some !k responses
[03:55] <DaSkreech> That will give a kubuntu specific response
[03:58] <Hobbsee> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/16269
[03:58] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 16269 in kdenetwork "KPPP fails to connect." [Medium,Confirmed]  
[04:00] <DaSkreech> Well I'm off and away
[04:18] <Hobbsee> someone really needs to look at that bug.
[05:25] <nixternal> sorry for the floods earlier, as it seems my router was nailed...
[05:28] <Hobbsee> nixternal: ouch :(
[05:28] <nixternal> ooh, math is oh so fun ;)
[05:28] <Hobbsee> this is an *online* quiz, and the syntax is really whacked.
[05:29] <nixternal> ahh, i start those next week ;)
[05:29] <nixternal> i have 2 online courses, and 1 on campus course
[05:29] <nixternal> linux shell scripting, html, xhtml and css, and i forgot the other one already
[09:20] <Sime> imbrandon: The .hidden syntax is simply a text file containing directory and file names (no trailing slashes), on per line.
[09:23] <nixternal> hiya Sime
[09:24] <nixternal> i was playing around with the patches earlier
[09:24] <nixternal> good stuff
[09:24] <Sime> nixternal: oh, so they are working (a bit?)
[09:24] <nixternal> yes, a bit ;)
[09:26] <Sime> nixternal: what is not working?
[09:26] <nixternal> i didn't get into it to deep, i was just mimicking the setttings you had in your blog
[09:27] <nixternal> i have to reinstall kubuntu edgy because i installed Ubuntu on my other machine so i could play iwth glx-compiz ;)
[11:29] <elvstone> anyone here with commit access to kubuntu.org website? http://kubuntu.org/documentation.php has a dead link to http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/release-notes/C/ar01s01.html
[11:30] <elvstone> also, are there any kubuntu specific release notes for 6.06.1 somewhere?
[11:30] <Hobbsee> elvstone: were you aware of what that link should be?
[11:30] <Hobbsee> i dotn think there were kubuntu specific notes.  nixternal might know.
[11:30] <elvstone> Hobbsee: hm. not sure.
[11:31] <nixternal> i don't know anything, except for the fact i am delerious and it is almost 5am
[11:31] <Hobbsee> elvstone: right, i'll poke Riddell about it later
[11:31] <nixternal> ;P
[11:31] <Hobbsee> haha
[11:31] <nixternal> hiya Hobbsee ;)
[11:31] <Hobbsee> nixternal: go to bed.
[11:31] <elvstone> http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/release-notes/C/ <-- that's probably what it should be.
[11:31] <nixternal> i need to
[11:31] <elvstone> or maybe http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/release-notes/C/document.html#releasenotes-new
[11:31] <Hobbsee> gotcha.  thanks elvstone 
[11:32] <elvstone> so no kubuntu specific changes to 6.06.1 then?
[11:33] <Riddell> elvstone: fixed
[11:33] <Hobbsee> elvstone: not specifically, that i know of
[11:33] <Hobbsee> hi Riddell!
[11:33] <elvstone> Riddell: cool.
[11:33] <elvstone> Hobbsee: alright.
[11:33] <Riddell> the 6.06.1 changes are listed in the post to ubuntu-announce
[11:33] <elvstone> Riddell: okay.
[11:33] <Hobbsee> Riddell: i thought you werent here this weekend.
[11:35] <elvstone> i installed suse 10.1 on a free partition of mine, next to my regular fbsd install, yesterday.. but was so disgusted by their installer.. i will try kubuntu instead this afternoon.
[11:35] <Hobbsee> elvstone: kubuntu installer is very nice, i tried it  yesterday :)
[11:37] <elvstone> okay. yea i have kubuntu on my laptop and it's nice, i never use it though since my battery is dead and the laptop is old.
[11:37] <Hobbsee> dinner time.
[11:37] <elvstone> the suse installer was just buggy, and took forever.
[11:39] <nixternal> Hobbsee: i installed Ubuntu with Xgl and Compiz...i had some fun tonight..i want it in kde now ;)
[11:40] <Hobbsee> nixternal: heh.  we had a kubuntu guide for it, iirc
[11:40] <nixternal> its out there..i was reading it ;)
[11:47] <seaLne> ooh the rat running on a wheel startup to xubuntu is cool :)
[11:50] <elvstone> how did it go? maybe i should run Xubuntu on my old laptop instead..
[11:51] <seaLne> the network card was detected during install but dosen't work now :(
[11:52] <seaLne> using 800x600 is weird
[11:54] <elvstone> okay. well all my hardware on the laptop is supported by linux, so it should work.. i haven't tried xfce 4.4 (used to run 4.2 on it). i think i'll try xubuntu on it today too.
[11:55] <seaLne> ejecting and reinserting card got it detected
[11:58] <elvstone> ok.
[12:00] <elvstone> what's the difference between kubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-amd64.iso and kubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-amd64.iso ?
[12:01] <elvstone> is -alternate- with another installer?
[12:02] <seaLne> desktop is the "normal" live cd and graphical installer alternate is a more advanced text based installer
[12:04] <elvstone> seaLne: okay, but they install the same thing? i think i prefer a text installer.. also i'd like to be able to tell it to not touch my MBR.
[12:05] <elvstone> (but install grub to hda1 partition)
[12:05] <elvstone> think i'm going with alternate then.
[12:36] <elvstone> xubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-amd64.iso              3% of  693 MB 2085 kBps 05m44s
[12:36] <elvstone> i like my new internet connection ;)
[12:44] <raphink> nice
[01:08] <toma> hi all
[01:08] <Hobbsee> hi toma 
[01:14] <Hobbsee> why chmod updatedb -x?  what's that do?
[01:15] <toma> updatedb provides the database for locate, which i dont use. updatedb scans your harddrive each  day for the data.
[01:15] <Hobbsee> toma: indeed, but why the chmod and -x bits?
[01:16] <toma> Hobbsee: other options?
[01:16] <Hobbsee> toma: right
[01:17] <toma> allright. i'll remove it from the cron, probably nicer
[01:37] <toma> Hobbsee: did you do any more merging?
[01:38] <Hobbsee> toma: nope, i've been fighting a maths quiz, then was out for the rest of the day :)
[01:39] <toma> aha
[02:30] <Hobbsee> hi goldenear 
[02:30] <goldenear> he Hobbsee :)
[03:07] <toma> imbrandon: ping
[03:09] <imbrandon_> toma: pong
[03:10] <toma> imbrandon_: did you by any chance look at showimg and kscope?
[03:10] <imbrandon_> i am looking at showimg now , kscope no
[03:11] <toma> imbrandon:ok, i just added a fix for kscope without changing the number, so that's no problem then
[03:11] <imbrandon_> kk
[03:19] <bddebian> Howdy
[03:19] <Hobbsee> hi bddebian 
[03:19] <bddebian> Heya Hobbsee
[03:37] <imbrandon_> moins bddebian
[03:37] <Hobbsee> debian 367856
[03:38] <Hobbsee> :(
[03:38] <bddebian> Heya imbrandon
[03:38] <Hobbsee> it's not going and autofinding it
[03:38] <bddebian> Apparently :-)
[03:40] <Lure> Riddell: ping
[03:40] <Hobbsee> Lure: he's away-ish for the weekenk
[03:40] <Hobbsee> Lure: he's away-ish for the weekend
[03:41] <Lure> Hobbsee: I was just hoping... 
[03:42] <Lure> was sub-pixel hinting enabled by default in dapper (missing this edgy)
[03:44] <Hobbsee> not sure.  the fonts have been changed from regular to light though, for some stupid reason.
[03:48] <Lure> imbrandon_: using old profile? you may try with new user...
[03:48] <seaLne> Hobbsee: can you change Bug #54264 to be wishlist as it shouldn't be used in kubuntu anyway
[03:48] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 54264 in k3b "k3bsetup fails to change permissions of programs" [Untriaged,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/54264
[03:49] <Hobbsee> seaLne: if it's not supposed to be used, it should be patched not to autorun, surely.
[03:49] <seaLne> thats a different feature^W bug
[03:49] <Hobbsee> right
[03:49] <Hobbsee> done
[03:49] <seaLne> ta
[03:55] <Lure> Hobbsee: can you check with "lshal -m" what key is reported when you press hibernate key?
[03:56] <Hobbsee> Lure: how do i use that?
[03:56] <Lure> lshal -m in konsole and press the key
[03:57] <Hobbsee> oh
[03:57] <Hobbsee> platform_i8042_i8042_Kbd_Port_logicaldev_input condition ButtonPressed = hibernate
[03:57] <Lure> ok, thanks
[03:57] <Hobbsee> platform_i8042_i8042_Kbd_Port_logicaldev_input condition ButtonPressed = sleep
[03:57] <Hobbsee> is the one for suspend
[04:01] <Hobbsee_> hmmm...suspend has come backweirdly
[04:02] <Hobbsee> this is very weird.  but still kinda cool.
[04:02] <seaLne> does anyone else not get an icon in the rightclick popup from the guidance pm applet?
[04:02] <imbrandon_>  
[04:02] <imbrandon_> errr 
[04:02] <imbrandon_> not me 
[04:03] <Hobbsee> seaLne: ahhh....you have to get the gnome power manager icons, and stick them into a directory
[04:03] <seaLne> so known problem then
[04:03] <imbrandon_> seaLne: yea
[04:03] <seaLne> the applet has an icon but that isn't used in the popup
[04:04] <Lure> seaLne: but it should work out-of-box if you have latest edgy update
[04:04] <Hobbsee> point.
[04:04] <Lure> I just finished Knot1+upgrade on my laptop andit works
[04:04] <seaLne> how do i start it after quiting it?
[04:05] <Lure> seaLne: you have to put them to /usr/share/apps/guidance/pics/powermanager
[04:05] <Lure> guidance-power-manager
[04:05] <seaLne> nope still no icon so its not fixed
[04:06] <Lure> seaLne: can you check in code and search for .png - you may have older version (which used gnome-power-manager path)
[04:06] <Hobbsee> yay for a borked system :P
[04:06] <Hobbsee> night all.
[04:07] <Lure> seaLne: did you just download from Riddell's bzr, or did you got it from KDE svn
[04:07] <Lure> I have KDE-svn version on Dapper and it works for me
[04:08] <seaLne> just re ran it after checking i was upto date, so are you saying the working version isn't in edgy yet then?
[04:09] <Lure> seaLne: it is - I just did clean install of Knot1 + dist-upgrade and guidance-power-manager was started
[04:10] <seaLne> without copying files?
[04:10] <Lure> yes
[04:11] <seaLne> 0.6.7svn20060810-0ubuntu1 ?
[04:11] <Lure> it is in kde-guidance package, version 0.6.7svn2060810'0ubuntu1
[04:11] <Lure> excatly 
[04:12] <seaLne> hmm /usr/share/apps/guidance/pics/powermanager exists
[04:12] <imbrandon_> seaLne: i get the bug too, it just shows up a piece of paper ( latest edgy )
[04:12] <Lure> interesting
[04:12] <imbrandon_> lure NOT the tray icon, the one when you right click
[04:12] <imbrandon_> on the menu
[04:12] <Lure> look into /usr/bin/guidance-power-manager and search for .png
[04:13] <Lure> imbrandon_: application icon? tru this is also generic here...
[04:13] <imbrandon_> Lure: exactly thats what me and seaLne are talking about
[04:13] <seaLne> www2.duffus.org/tmp/pm.png
[04:13] <Lure> ok, sorry for confusion 
[04:14] <Lure> (came late) ;-)
[04:14] <imbrandon_> ;)
[04:16] <Lure> ;-)
[04:28] <Lure> Hobbsee: hi
[04:28] <Hobbsee> hi Lure 
[04:28] <Hobbsee> i've decided i cant face the idea of bed yet.
[04:28] <Lure> ;-)
[04:28] <imbrandon_> heh
[04:29] <Lure> Hobbsee: can you then review and upload this for me: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2848
[04:29] <Lure> ,-)
[04:29] <Hobbsee> Lure: no, i'm not awake enough for that :P
[04:29] <Lure> any other MOTU here?
[04:29] <Hobbsee> Lure: imbrandon is
[04:29] <Hobbsee> Lure: so's bddebian 
[04:29] <imbrandon_> hahaha you suck Hobbsee
[04:30] <Hobbsee> :P
[04:30] <Lure> imbrandon: you are MOTU, congrats!
[04:30] <imbrandon_> Lure: yea i'm MOTU ;) hehe lemme fiish lunch and i'll  look ;)
[04:30] <imbrandon_> s/fiish/finish
[04:30] <Lure> I cannot bother bddebian as he is the first that is advocating upload... ;-)
[04:30] <Lure> I think I need two... 
[04:30] <Hobbsee> yeah, you need two
[04:31] <imbrandon_> if its a new program yea
[04:31] <Lure> imbrandon_: thanks - no hurry
[04:31] <Lure> will probably also have new powersave and kpowersave in couple of hours (after tests)
[04:32] <Hobbsee> nice :)
[04:32] <Hobbsee> will they work?  :P
[04:32] <Lure> Hobbsee: they should, you have doubts?
[04:33] <Lure> importance of thm is anyway reduced now, but may still be usefull in universe for some people that HAL does not work good enough
[04:33] <Hobbsee> Lure: current powersave, etc, has trouble with dbus.
[04:33] <Hobbsee> true
[04:33] <Hobbsee> iirc
[04:35] <Hobbsee> hey cool.  the menus seem to work again with a clean install
[04:35] <Lure> Hobbsee: dbus problem is due to debian patch that we need to drop
[04:35] <Hobbsee> Lure: right
[04:42] <Mez> hey Kenny - hows things ?
[04:43] <Hobbsee> greetings Mez 
[04:43] <Mez> greetings sarah
[04:43] <seaLne> not bad trying to get paypal integration to work on a website which isn't fun (btw i have joins etc on ignore)
[04:44] <Mez> seaLne, IPN isnt that hard to use - what code you using?
[04:44] <seaLne> well don't be an op then :P
[04:44] <Mez> if it's php i can find out my ipn stuff
[04:44] <Hobbsee> seaLne: heh.  could do that.
[04:44] <Hobbsee> op'ing in user channels is annoying, anyway
[04:44] <seaLne> Mez: ruby paypal thing from leetsoft
[04:44] <Mez> ah: i've got a nice IPN gateway in PHP
[04:45] <imbrandon_> heya Mez
[04:45] <imbrandon_> yea ipn with php is simpleish
[04:45] <imbrandon_> i've done it a few times
[04:46] <Mez> imbrandon_, quick question. I recognise your nick from somewhere else... you didnt have anything to do with Invision did you ?
[04:46] <imbrandon_> invision BB ?
[04:46] <seaLne> Mez: it would be kinda quite nice to be able to actually sell the kubuntu tshirts
[04:46] <Mez> seaLne? I thought you did
[04:47] <Mez> imbrandon_, yes
[04:47] <seaLne> Mez: only at lrl i mean in general
[04:47] <imbrandon_> Mez: nah i've been coding arroudn the internet and kubuntu for a long while though, RunUO UOX3 mono phpBB umm and lots i'm forgetting atm
[04:47] <Mez> imbrandon_, but did you have anything to do with invision power board ?
[04:47] <Mez> (or eeggs)
[04:48] <imbrandon_> not that i'm aware of
[04:49] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: you've been doing secret things that not even you know about!  wow!
[04:49] <imbrandon_> secret things ?
[04:49] <imbrandon_> heh
[04:49] <Hobbsee> invision  BB ,etc :P
[04:50] <imbrandon_> heh
[04:51] <imbrandon_> Hobbsee: not realy secret but if you been doing stuff since 95/96ish like me you end up helping / using alot of projects ;)
[04:51] <Hobbsee> true
[04:51] <Mez> imbrandon_, indded
[04:51] <Hobbsee> heh.  that makes me very young.
[04:52] <imbrandon_> hahaha
[04:52] <imbrandon_> ;)
[04:52] <Hobbsee> er, 6
[04:52] <Hobbsee> was 6 for one half, 7 for the other.
[04:52] <imbrandon_> you were born in 89? jez i feel old now hahaha
[04:52] <Hobbsee> 88
[04:52] <imbrandon_> still
[04:53] <imbrandon_> i rember being at the baseball 85 world series ( royal actualy WON yay \0/ )
[04:53] <imbrandon_> heh
[04:54] <imbrandon_> hahahah /me dosent feel old
[04:54] <Hobbsee> going to need lots of walking sticks to give out to you all for birthdays...
[04:54] <Hobbsee> Mez: you're only 21?
[04:54] <Mez> Hobbsee, yeah
[04:55] <Hobbsee> wow
[04:55] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: old :P
[04:55] <imbrandon_> shush
[04:55] <imbrandon_> hahaa
[04:55] <Hobbsee> she stormed off :P
[04:56] <Hobbsee> "hey mum, i'm on the phone, you know"
[04:56] <imbrandon_> lol
[04:56] <Hobbsee> oh well, hehe
[04:56] <Hobbsee> bedtime
[04:56] <Hobbsee> night all
[04:56] <imbrandon_> gnight Hobbsee
[05:05] <seaLne> has anyone noticed in the last few days there machine go very sluugish for a while then return to normal? kicker and kwin and maxing out the cpu while this is happening
[05:25] <mhb> one question
[05:26] <mhb> I remember that on my Dapper machines Adept refused to get localised
[05:26] <mhb> even though libept is 100% translated (I made sure it is)
[05:27] <mhb> adept refused to load the Czech translations
[05:27] <mhb> should I file a bug in adept or is this going to change in Edgy (I *really* wish we get to translate Edgy real soon)?
[05:28] <seaLne> can't you start translating before string freeze?
[05:30] <mhb> seaLne: I can't start translating until they open up Rosetta
[05:30] <mhb> and it is still closed for Edgy 
[05:30] <mhb> nevermind, I'll file a bug
[05:30] <seaLne> ah
[07:16] <freeflying> how can I  only mirror the dapper and edgy's archive? 
[07:17] <seaLne> --exclude <some pattern> in your rsync?
[07:18] <seaLne> not that the older ones will exactly change much anyway
[07:20] <seaLne> hmm no that wouldn't realy work would it
[07:21] <freeflying> seaLne: it can't work  :)
[07:21] <seaLne> hmm ah full mirror is 160Gb
[07:22] <freeflying> now, full mirror seems far more than 160G
[07:22] <seaLne> thats what mine is
[07:23] <freeflying> I've mirrored 21G, but only 12%
[07:24] <seaLne> mavor% du -sh ~ftp/ubuntu
[07:24] <seaLne> 160G    ubuntu/
[07:26] <seaLne> 12.5% == 1/8 so sounds right
[07:27] <freeflying> :)
[07:38] <toma> imbrandon: ignore my kscope request, fabo will merge kubuntu patches with the debian package, and i will request a sync when that is uploaded..
[08:08] <nixternal> whats kubuntu'ites
[08:08] <nixternal> arg
[08:08] <nixternal> whats up kubuntu'ites ;)
[08:09] <Lure_> nixternal: not much, quiet day ;-)
[08:09] <nixternal> looks like it..thats a good thing though ;)
[08:25] <seaLne> Sime: was it getting upset about apmd?
[08:25] <seaLne> and i would guess knot2 won't be until some point after you can install the dailys
[08:25] <Sime> no, the installer wizard thingy would crash when it came time to actually format stuff and install the OS.
[08:26] <seaLne> ah i was using alternate so probably missed anything like that
[08:27] <Lure> Sime: I just today installed Knot1 + dist-upgrade without problems
[08:28] <seaLne> its the install not the end result thats the problem
[08:28] <Sime> I wanted it to use hdc.
[08:28] <Sime> install
[08:34] <Lure> any MOTU to look at powersave (fixing debian sync) & kpowersave (manual merge)
[08:34] <Lure> http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2873
[08:34] <Lure> http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2874
[08:34] <crimsun> I was, but I was told you are working on them
[08:36] <Lure> crimsun: I did them, just need MOTU to do final look and upload
[08:36] <crimsun> (I'm looking atm)
[08:36] <bddebian> Hmm, I think I looked at kpowersave
[08:39] <Lure> bddebian: kpowersave MoM stuff was strange as major part was .po file diff - I have just used debian as base and moved forward ubuntu patches + control change
[08:39] <Lure> crimsun: thanks
[08:40] <crimsun> powersave looks fine, though it would have been nice to document why the changes from Debian (dropping powerdev), which aren't immediately obvious for people "in the know", are necessary
[08:42] <Lure> crimsun: you are probably right - sync with debian has removed old Ubuntu change log which explained this in greater detail
[08:42] <Lure> crimsun: not sure if I should merge the changelog or just fix the last changelog
[08:43] <crimsun> I'd merge the older Ubuntu changelog entries
[08:43] <Lure> crimsun: ok, will do that
[08:43] <crimsun> thanks.
[08:51] <Lure> crimsun: since I have only re-did the changes from previous ubuntu releases (manual merge), should I just say "Merge from debian unstable" (as this is what I would do if the sync was not done)?
[08:52] <Lure> crimsun: now that changelog is complete, it does not makes much sense to repeat
[09:00] <crimsun> Lure: as long as the old Ubuntu changelog entries are present, it's fine
[09:01] <Lure> crimsun: I have left it in, as at least one newer patch from debian was droped and that way it is more clear what is the diff between debian and ubuntu.
[09:01] <Lure> crimsun: new package is already on revu - and thanks for looking into this
[09:08] <crimsun> Lure: fixed duplicate entries in debian/control
[09:09] <Lure> crimsun: duplicate entries?
[09:30] <crimsun> debian/control has a duplicate entry for powersaveddebian/control has a duplicate entry for powersaved
[09:30] <crimsun> (already fixed)
[10:02] <crimsun> Lure: false alarm, sorry. Used the diff instead of the source package.
[10:03] <Lure> crimsun: ok, I thought that I just do not understand the problem... ;-)
[10:07] <crimsun> powersave uploaded & archived.
[10:07] <Lure> crimsun: thanks!
[10:08] <crimsun> np
[10:11] <imbrandon_> Sime: ping
[11:00] <seaLne> any thoughts on what to do with Malone bug 56168
[11:01] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 56168 in k3b "k3b should *not* calculate md5 sum of images by default" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/56168
[11:01] <seaLne> reject is feeling very tempting
[11:08] <RadiantFire> er, thats a bug?
[11:16] <seaLne> sounds like a feature to me and it certainly dosen't eat cpu
[11:19] <imbrandon_> yea i'm thinking thats the intended behavure, at best it should be filed upstream as a whislist
[11:19] <imbrandon_> wishlist*
[11:19] <RadiantFire> the md5 sum is in the background and halts if you hit burn
[11:20] <crimsun> I'd mark it wishlist Importance
[11:21] <imbrandon_> yea, i'm thinking he is just wanting a "stop" button 
[11:21] <imbrandon_> to stop it
[11:21] <crimsun> that's about the only thing that's worth doing currently