[12:10] ??? I'm running edgy... but then... I dist-upgraded... so that's different... got a link? [12:11] no i'm running edgy and have the purple goodness also [12:12] ryanakca: http://imbrandon.sytes.net/ss1.png [12:13] see [12:14] imbrizzle, i see i see ;) [12:14] odd... and you dist-upgraded? [12:14] or fresh installed... because I got nothing of the sort :( [12:14] yes, i've been running edgy months on here [12:14] ah, my battery is 50% now, 10 minutes left [12:14] well since the repos opened [12:14] toma: ouch [12:14] heh [12:15] imbrandon: i better warn the electricity company l-0 [12:15] lol @ toma, mine too [12:15] toma: your battery is only 20 minutes? [12:15] ryanakca: no, i'm plugged into the wall [12:16] he was being sarcastic about the new pm applet [12:16] so it must be measuring the electricity company, no? [12:16] ah [12:16] its reading something wrong [12:16] imbrandon: i dont have a laptop, should not be there at all if you ask me [12:17] imbrandon: got a link to the theme? (like to download it so I can install it in kcontrol) [12:17] toma: +1 but this is edgy ;) [12:17] ryanakca: its not a "theme" its kubuntu-default-settings [12:17] imbrandon: sure, np === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal__ [n=nixterna@c-71-194-189-213.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Seveas"] === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:31] ok, b4 i go into bug mode, anyone know of nvidia issues and edgy? [12:32] yea that it dont work ( nor ati ) with xorg 7.1 [12:32] well known [12:32] imbrandon: do you also approve sync requests? [12:33] i can ack them [12:33] lovely [12:33] yea [12:33] toma got one ? [12:33] imbrandon: i'm building to see if the debian version builds [12:33] so, one sec [12:33] k [12:34] i'm going afk for a few, pm me the bug number , i'll get it when i get back === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:50] imbrandon: ping [12:51] pong [12:52] imbrandon: hobbsee told me only cdbs packages can be synced, right? [12:52] not that i'm aware of, any package can be synced as long as the ubuntu changes can be overridden [12:52] k [12:54] imbrandon: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/showimg/+bug/56089 [12:54] Malone bug 56089 in showimg "Please sync 0.9.5-1 from debian unstable" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] [12:55] kk [12:55] o, forgot to mention, it builds on pbuilder edgy [12:56] this uses gnome or kde.mk ? [12:56] no [12:56] no patches [12:57] i mean that dh_iconcache is in {gnome,kde}.mk so it will get picked up [12:57] does it have either one of those in the rules ? [12:58] nope [12:58] ok, so it can not sync [12:58] that is what hobsee meant ;-) [12:58] heh yea probably [12:59] ok reject that request , then grab the debian src and re-add dh_iconache [12:59] yes sir [12:59] then it should be good [12:59] brb dinner time [01:01] imbrandon: then there is no reason to merge... [01:02] if you grab the merge & or add it to the debian src thats mergin [01:07] sure, it's building ;-) === nixternal__ [n=nixterna@c-71-194-189-213.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-251-119-70.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:22] hum [01:22] My 2nd monitor won't come out of the freeze. [01:29] imbrandon: you can grab it from http://kubuntu.omat.nl [01:30] morning all [01:30] toma sure, what am i grabbing ? [01:30] imbrandon: showimg [01:32] imbrandon: kscope is also a new version, you might want to upload that one too [01:32] sure , when i get back on voyager i'll grab them and look === omeow [n=omega@co63471-a.olden1.ov.home.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:33] ( eta ~ 2 hours ) , toma i'll ping ya when i upload them [01:33] i'll probably be asleep in two hours ;-) === omeow [n=omega@co63471-a.olden1.ov.home.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:34] hehe ok i'll email ya letting ya know i did it [01:34] unless Hobbsee wants to look at them now ( i have no access to my build machine atm , at a friends house on my lappy ) [01:34] if not i will when i get home ;) === Hobbsee is dealing with amarok [01:36] Hobbsee: btw one in universe and one in main would be a nightmare, would be better to promote that plugin to main if feasible [01:36] imbrandon: of the libnjb stuff? the entire source would have to be upgraded to main. [01:36] we cant have amarok dep'ing on a universe package [01:37] exactly and an amarok package in main and universe would be a night mare like one of the amarok dev's sugested [01:38] yeah, i'm not doing that. === Hobbsee is surprised she hasnt been booted from the channel yet. [01:39] heh what chan ? [01:40] not allowed to tell [01:40] it's a super secret one [01:40] did you get on the ML ( if you plan on keeping it mainttained ) heh [01:40] no, havent found out what it is [01:40] havent been game enough to ask, either [01:41] and i havent looked :P [01:41] lol === yuriy [n=yuriy@207-172-219-193.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:43] Hobbsee: !!! [01:43] toma!!! [01:43] imbrandon: dunno if i'll keep it maintained. i just am this time, as i've got some bugfixes i want to add. [01:43] imbrandon, Hobbsee: please ack: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/tictactoe/+bug/56095 [01:43] Malone bug 56095 in tictactoe "please sync 0.8.1-4 from debian" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] === Hobbsee looks [01:44] toma: do the original tarballs happen to match? [01:45] Hobbsee: which ones? [01:46] toma: orig.tar.gz of debian and ubuntu [01:46] 2fa7b2e04febd6ad93a075797c50e231 [01:46] 2fa7b2e04febd6ad93a075797c50e231 [01:46] oh nice [01:46] wonder why they manually merged it then [01:46] yes, md5 is the same [01:46] ah, you found that out quickly [01:47] packages.{ubuntu,debian}.com === Hobbsee test builds. [01:48] ah, no debhelper, so it ftbfs :P === Hobbsee tries again. [01:49] pbuilder edgy was ok [01:50] pbuilder should grab debhelper no problems , btw Hobbsee your *build are wrong [01:50] what's that darker green on the mergeomatic page? [01:50] toma: i think it's a list of importance [01:50] toma: done [01:51] thnxs [01:52] imbrandon: hmmm? [01:52] my *build? [01:52] what are 'updated merges' ? [01:52] toma: means that someone merged them, then debian updated them again [01:52] eiks [01:52] like edgybuild script IE they use the host system for somethings not like "pbuilder-edgy build some.dsc" [01:53] imbrandon: oh yeah, true [01:53] afaik they use pdebuild and its a bit diffrent === Hobbsee considers that a small tradeoff. [01:53] i think the buildd's use the pbuilder-edgy build foo.dsc [01:54] edgybuild uses pdebuild [01:54] not realy it means voyager needs alot of deps installed if its used === Hobbsee prefers pdebuild. [01:54] imbrandon: actually, doesnt seem to be that many === toma spots kipi-plugins and wonders how that could have escaped my attention [01:54] i mean, there's some dev stuff, like cdbs, debhelper, etc, but.. [01:54] still not the "right" way ;) [01:54] toma: hehe [01:55] becouse i modify and have experimentaly sources [01:55] on the main system [01:55] thats not geood to be getting stuff from [01:55] as with pdebuild [01:55] imbrandon: bleh. if it fails on the buildds because of the difference between pbuilder build and pdebuild... [01:55] imbrandon: probably true. i'll change that script if it turns out to become a problem, i supsect [01:55] Hobbsee: it may not fail but thats not what i;m saying [01:55] seeing as otherwise you have to revubuild, then pbuilder build .dsc [01:55] imbrandon: true, i get your point [01:56] or you could just make the edgybuild do both ;) [01:56] see ? [01:56] that takes longer :P [01:57] but its the right way and dosent fail if i have broken stuff on the system, becouse it uses a chroot like it should , i found out thats why it was throwing the gcc errors for you beofre [01:57] on intrepid [01:58] it abstracts the host and the buld system to make it "clean" heheh === yuriy [n=yuriy@207-172-219-193.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:08] ahh.... [02:12] imbrandon, Hobbsee: last one for this evening: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kipi-plugins/+bug/56099 [02:12] Malone bug 56099 in kipi-plugins "Please sync 0.1.2-1 from debian" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] === omeow [n=omega@co63471-a.olden1.ov.home.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:19] toma: why is the libfam-dev not correct? === Hobbsee should just ack it anyway, as you're the upstream maintainer, and can fix it from there. [02:20] Hobbsee: it was a temp. buildd problem [02:20] Hobbsee: digikam needed a rebuild for that too [02:20] toma: ah right [02:22] i also maintain two of the plugins ;-) [02:23] toma: true === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:27] hi neoncode [02:28] i got a switcher! [02:29] im in the process of setting up a Kubuntu computer for my momma ;) === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:30] imbrandon: kvirc is probably a easy candidate for syncing, but i'm not 100% sure, as the changelogs are not very clear. [02:31] Howdy [02:31] imbrandon: you toched it last, so you might see it within the sec [02:31] bddebian: hi [02:32] Hello toma === yuriy [n=yuriy@207-172-219-193.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:49] toma: confirming [02:50] Hobbsee: thanks again [02:50] :) [02:55] ok, night all [02:55] night toma === toma [n=toma@toma.kovoks.nl] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Ooh,] === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal__ [n=nixterna@c-71-194-189-213.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=clay@66-252-35-205.da.midmaine.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal___ [n=nixterna@c-71-194-189-213.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:38] Hi [03:42] hi DaSkreech [03:42] Hello [03:42] My Sound is screwed :-( === freeflying [n=freeflyi@221.221.160.148] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:44] ah [03:51] How are you Hobbsee? [03:51] Heya DaSkreech [03:51] DaSkreech: good, looking at some amarok bugs. [03:51] bddebian: Heya! [03:51] bddebian: do we still need to fix https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/14918 ? [03:51] Malone bug 14918 in kdebase "kdm is missing dependency on lsb-base" [High,Confirmed] [03:52] Hobbsee: Hmm, dunno === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:52] WE have a very high incidence of people in the #kubuntu channel not getting any help === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:53] DaSkreech: indeed. answer them? === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:53] Sorry I was away I'm just going over the log [03:53] yeah [03:53] I answer as many as I can while I'm at the computer === Hobbsee is aware that it's a problem, but doestn really know what to do about it [03:53] yep === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:54] I'm not so much worried about the ones who come in and aask and then log out 5 minutes later [03:54] well, yeah [03:54] #kubuntu is shocking for help though === nixternal__ [n=nixterna@c-71-194-189-213.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:54] I'm more concenred with the ones who login while people are talking around them and ask two or three times then log out [03:55] true [03:55] Also ubotu needs some !k responses [03:55] That will give a kubuntu specific response === freeflying [n=freeflyi@221.221.160.148] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:58] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/16269 [03:58] Malone bug 16269 in kdenetwork "KPPP fails to connect." [Medium,Confirmed] [04:00] Well I'm off and away === _maydayjay_ [n=upirc@161.216.3.121] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:18] someone really needs to look at that bug. === nixternal___ [n=nixterna@c-71-194-189-213.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _maydayjay_ [n=upirc@161.216.3.121] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === nixternal____ [n=nixterna@c-71-194-189-213.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.109.24] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:25] sorry for the floods earlier, as it seems my router was nailed... [05:28] nixternal: ouch :( === Hobbsee is still tryign to get around this pesky maths quiz [05:28] ooh, math is oh so fun ;) [05:28] this is an *online* quiz, and the syntax is really whacked. [05:29] ahh, i start those next week ;) [05:29] i have 2 online courses, and 1 on campus course [05:29] linux shell scripting, html, xhtml and css, and i forgot the other one already === mornfall_ [n=mornfall@rb4b151.net.upc.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === __maydayjay_ [n=jason@maydayjay.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel === seth [n=seth@ubuntu/member/sethkinast] has joined #kubuntu-devel === NeoChaosX [n=nael@ppp-71-139-163-10.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mornfall [n=mornfall@rb4b151.net.upc.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mornfall_ [n=mornfall@rb4b151.net.upc.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mornfall [n=mornfall@rb4b151.net.upc.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mornfall_ [n=mornfall@rb4b151.net.upc.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === NeoChaosX [n=nael@ppp-71-139-163-10.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === NeoChaosX [n=nael@ppp-71-139-163-10.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mhb [n=mhb@64.73.broadband3.iol.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-251-119-70.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mhb [n=mhb@64.73.broadband3.iol.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-251-119-70.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === insanekane [n=kane@202.83.32.168] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:20] imbrandon: The .hidden syntax is simply a text file containing directory and file names (no trailing slashes), on per line. [09:23] hiya Sime [09:24] i was playing around with the patches earlier [09:24] good stuff [09:24] nixternal: oh, so they are working (a bit?) [09:24] yes, a bit ;) [09:26] nixternal: what is not working? [09:26] i didn't get into it to deep, i was just mimicking the setttings you had in your blog [09:27] i have to reinstall kubuntu edgy because i installed Ubuntu on my other machine so i could play iwth glx-compiz ;) === poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-251-119-70.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-251-119-70.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-251-119-70.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mhb [n=mhb@64.73.broadband3.iol.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-251-119-70.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mhb [n=mhb@64.73.broadband3.iol.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === elvstone [n=elvis@h81n1fls35o879.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:29] anyone here with commit access to kubuntu.org website? http://kubuntu.org/documentation.php has a dead link to http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/release-notes/C/ar01s01.html [11:30] also, are there any kubuntu specific release notes for 6.06.1 somewhere? [11:30] elvstone: were you aware of what that link should be? [11:30] i dotn think there were kubuntu specific notes. nixternal might know. [11:30] Hobbsee: hm. not sure. [11:31] i don't know anything, except for the fact i am delerious and it is almost 5am [11:31] elvstone: right, i'll poke Riddell about it later [11:31] ;P [11:31] haha [11:31] hiya Hobbsee ;) [11:31] nixternal: go to bed. [11:31] http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/release-notes/C/ <-- that's probably what it should be. [11:31] i need to [11:31] or maybe http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/release-notes/C/document.html#releasenotes-new [11:31] gotcha. thanks elvstone [11:32] so no kubuntu specific changes to 6.06.1 then? [11:33] elvstone: fixed [11:33] elvstone: not specifically, that i know of [11:33] hi Riddell! [11:33] Riddell: cool. [11:33] Hobbsee: alright. [11:33] the 6.06.1 changes are listed in the post to ubuntu-announce [11:33] Riddell: okay. [11:33] Riddell: i thought you werent here this weekend. [11:35] i installed suse 10.1 on a free partition of mine, next to my regular fbsd install, yesterday.. but was so disgusted by their installer.. i will try kubuntu instead this afternoon. [11:35] elvstone: kubuntu installer is very nice, i tried it yesterday :) [11:37] okay. yea i have kubuntu on my laptop and it's nice, i never use it though since my battery is dead and the laptop is old. [11:37] dinner time. [11:37] the suse installer was just buggy, and took forever. === Hobbsee could never get that to work. [11:39] Hobbsee: i installed Ubuntu with Xgl and Compiz...i had some fun tonight..i want it in kde now ;) [11:40] nixternal: heh. we had a kubuntu guide for it, iirc [11:40] its out there..i was reading it ;) [11:47] ooh the rat running on a wheel startup to xubuntu is cool :) === seaLne just tried installing xubuntu on a 400MHz laptop [11:50] how did it go? maybe i should run Xubuntu on my old laptop instead.. [11:51] the network card was detected during install but dosen't work now :( [11:52] using 800x600 is weird [11:54] okay. well all my hardware on the laptop is supported by linux, so it should work.. i haven't tried xfce 4.4 (used to run 4.2 on it). i think i'll try xubuntu on it today too. === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:55] ejecting and reinserting card got it detected [11:58] ok. [12:00] what's the difference between kubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-amd64.iso and kubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-amd64.iso ? [12:01] is -alternate- with another installer? [12:02] desktop is the "normal" live cd and graphical installer alternate is a more advanced text based installer === OdyX [n=Didier@34.73.77.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Dinofly [n=dinofly@vbo91-1-82-238-217-179.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:04] seaLne: okay, but they install the same thing? i think i prefer a text installer.. also i'd like to be able to tell it to not touch my MBR. === ZuZuu [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-22-8.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:05] (but install grub to hda1 partition) [12:05] think i'm going with alternate then. === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:36] xubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-amd64.iso 3% of 693 MB 2085 kBps 05m44s [12:36] i like my new internet connection ;) [12:44] nice === toma [n=toma@toma.kovoks.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:08] hi all [01:08] hi toma === toma chmods updatedb -x and there is silence again. [01:14] why chmod updatedb -x? what's that do? [01:15] updatedb provides the database for locate, which i dont use. updatedb scans your harddrive each day for the data. [01:15] toma: indeed, but why the chmod and -x bits? [01:16] Hobbsee: other options? [01:16] toma: right [01:17] allright. i'll remove it from the cron, probably nicer === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === fritsch [i=UzRRtB0S@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:37] Hobbsee: did you do any more merging? [01:38] toma: nope, i've been fighting a maths quiz, then was out for the rest of the day :) [01:39] aha === goldenear [n=goldenea@vol75-4-82-225-33-186.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:30] hi goldenear [02:30] he Hobbsee :) === ZuZuu [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-26-157.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OdyX_ [n=Didier@193-131.0-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon_ [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:07] imbrandon: ping [03:09] toma: pong [03:10] imbrandon_: did you by any chance look at showimg and kscope? [03:10] i am looking at showimg now , kscope no [03:11] imbrandon:ok, i just added a fix for kscope without changing the number, so that's no problem then [03:11] kk === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.109.24] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:19] Howdy [03:19] hi bddebian [03:19] Heya Hobbsee === Lure [n=admin@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:37] moins bddebian [03:37] debian 367856 [03:38] :( [03:38] Heya imbrandon [03:38] it's not going and autofinding it [03:38] Apparently :-) [03:40] Riddell: ping [03:40] Lure: he's away-ish for the weekenk [03:40] Lure: he's away-ish for the weekend [03:41] Hobbsee: I was just hoping... [03:42] was sub-pixel hinting enabled by default in dapper (missing this edgy) [03:44] not sure. the fonts have been changed from regular to light though, for some stupid reason. === imbrandon_ wonders why he dosent have the font truble some complain about [03:48] imbrandon_: using old profile? you may try with new user... [03:48] Hobbsee: can you change Bug #54264 to be wishlist as it shouldn't be used in kubuntu anyway [03:48] Malone bug 54264 in k3b "k3bsetup fails to change permissions of programs" [Untriaged,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/54264 [03:49] seaLne: if it's not supposed to be used, it should be patched not to autorun, surely. [03:49] thats a different feature^W bug [03:49] right [03:49] done [03:49] ta [03:55] Hobbsee: can you check with "lshal -m" what key is reported when you press hibernate key? [03:56] Lure: how do i use that? [03:56] lshal -m in konsole and press the key [03:57] oh [03:57] platform_i8042_i8042_Kbd_Port_logicaldev_input condition ButtonPressed = hibernate [03:57] ok, thanks [03:57] platform_i8042_i8042_Kbd_Port_logicaldev_input condition ButtonPressed = sleep [03:57] is the one for suspend === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:01] hmmm...suspend has come backweirdly [04:02] this is very weird. but still kinda cool. [04:02] does anyone else not get an icon in the rightclick popup from the guidance pm applet? [04:02] [04:02] errr [04:02] not me [04:03] seaLne: ahhh....you have to get the gnome power manager icons, and stick them into a directory === Hobbsee doenst remember more than that. fabbione's logs do though [04:03] so known problem then [04:03] seaLne: yea [04:03] the applet has an icon but that isn't used in the popup [04:04] seaLne: but it should work out-of-box if you have latest edgy update [04:04] point. [04:04] I just finished Knot1+upgrade on my laptop andit works [04:04] how do i start it after quiting it? === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:05] seaLne: you have to put them to /usr/share/apps/guidance/pics/powermanager [04:05] guidance-power-manager [04:05] nope still no icon so its not fixed [04:06] seaLne: can you check in code and search for .png - you may have older version (which used gnome-power-manager path) [04:06] yay for a borked system :P === Hobbsee will try out suspend again when they fix the xorg stuff [04:06] night all. [04:07] seaLne: did you just download from Riddell's bzr, or did you got it from KDE svn [04:07] I have KDE-svn version on Dapper and it works for me [04:08] just re ran it after checking i was upto date, so are you saying the working version isn't in edgy yet then? [04:09] seaLne: it is - I just did clean install of Knot1 + dist-upgrade and guidance-power-manager was started [04:10] without copying files? [04:10] yes [04:11] 0.6.7svn20060810-0ubuntu1 ? [04:11] it is in kde-guidance package, version 0.6.7svn2060810'0ubuntu1 [04:11] excatly [04:12] hmm /usr/share/apps/guidance/pics/powermanager exists [04:12] seaLne: i get the bug too, it just shows up a piece of paper ( latest edgy ) [04:12] interesting [04:12] lure NOT the tray icon, the one when you right click [04:12] on the menu [04:12] look into /usr/bin/guidance-power-manager and search for .png [04:13] imbrandon_: application icon? tru this is also generic here... [04:13] Lure: exactly thats what me and seaLne are talking about [04:13] www2.duffus.org/tmp/pm.png [04:13] ok, sorry for confusion [04:14] (came late) ;-) [04:14] ;) === seaLne avoids commenting on that [04:16] ;-) === toma [n=toma@toma.kovoks.nl] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Ooh,] === Mez [i=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:28] Hobbsee: hi [04:28] hi Lure [04:28] i've decided i cant face the idea of bed yet. [04:28] ;-) [04:28] heh [04:29] Hobbsee: can you then review and upload this for me: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2848 [04:29] ,-) [04:29] Lure: no, i'm not awake enough for that :P === Hobbsee could just upload it without reviewing though... [04:29] any other MOTU here? [04:29] Lure: imbrandon is [04:29] Lure: so's bddebian [04:29] hahaha you suck Hobbsee [04:30] :P [04:30] imbrandon: you are MOTU, congrats! [04:30] Lure: yea i'm MOTU ;) hehe lemme fiish lunch and i'll look ;) [04:30] s/fiish/finish [04:30] I cannot bother bddebian as he is the first that is advocating upload... ;-) [04:30] I think I need two... [04:30] yeah, you need two [04:31] if its a new program yea [04:31] imbrandon_: thanks - no hurry [04:31] will probably also have new powersave and kpowersave in couple of hours (after tests) [04:32] nice :) [04:32] will they work? :P [04:32] Hobbsee: they should, you have doubts? [04:33] importance of thm is anyway reduced now, but may still be usefull in universe for some people that HAL does not work good enough [04:33] Lure: current powersave, etc, has trouble with dbus. [04:33] true [04:33] iirc [04:35] hey cool. the menus seem to work again with a clean install [04:35] Hobbsee: dbus problem is due to debian patch that we need to drop [04:35] Lure: right === Huahua [n=hua_@123.49.236.29] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez wonders why he hasnt been greeted in here yet# === seaLne kicks Mez [04:42] hey Kenny - hows things ? [04:43] greetings Mez [04:43] greetings sarah [04:43] not bad trying to get paypal integration to work on a website which isn't fun (btw i have joins etc on ignore) === Hobbsee cant do that :( [04:44] seaLne, IPN isnt that hard to use - what code you using? [04:44] well don't be an op then :P [04:44] if it's php i can find out my ipn stuff [04:44] seaLne: heh. could do that. [04:44] op'ing in user channels is annoying, anyway [04:44] Mez: ruby paypal thing from leetsoft [04:44] ah: i've got a nice IPN gateway in PHP [04:45] heya Mez [04:45] yea ipn with php is simpleish [04:45] i've done it a few times [04:46] imbrandon_, quick question. I recognise your nick from somewhere else... you didnt have anything to do with Invision did you ? [04:46] invision BB ? [04:46] Mez: it would be kinda quite nice to be able to actually sell the kubuntu tshirts [04:46] seaLne? I thought you did [04:47] imbrandon_, yes [04:47] Mez: only at lrl i mean in general === Hobbsee notes that solitare is addictive. [04:47] Mez: nah i've been coding arroudn the internet and kubuntu for a long while though, RunUO UOX3 mono phpBB umm and lots i'm forgetting atm [04:47] imbrandon_, but did you have anything to do with invision power board ? [04:47] (or eeggs) [04:48] not that i'm aware of [04:49] imbrandon: you've been doing secret things that not even you know about! wow! [04:49] secret things ? [04:49] heh [04:49] invision BB ,etc :P [04:50] heh === omeow [n=omega@co63471-a.olden1.ov.home.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:51] Hobbsee: not realy secret but if you been doing stuff since 95/96ish like me you end up helping / using alot of projects ;) [04:51] true [04:51] imbrandon_, indded [04:51] heh. that makes me very young. === Hobbsee was 7 in 95. [04:52] hahaha [04:52] ;) [04:52] er, 6 [04:52] was 6 for one half, 7 for the other. [04:52] you were born in 89? jez i feel old now hahaha [04:52] 88 [04:52] still [04:53] i rember being at the baseball 85 world series ( royal actualy WON yay \0/ ) [04:53] heh === Hobbsee mutters about old people :P [04:54] hahahah /me dosent feel old === Mez feels old at 21 [04:54] going to need lots of walking sticks to give out to you all for birthdays... [04:54] Mez: you're only 21? [04:54] Hobbsee, yeah [04:55] wow === imbrandon_ will be 28 this birthday === Hobbsee thoguth you were mid 20's for some reason [04:55] imbrandon: old :P [04:55] shush === Hobbsee inadvertantly told her mother she was old today. [04:55] hahaa === Hobbsee was on the phone, and mum came in to hear that sentence. [04:55] she stormed off :P [04:56] "hey mum, i'm on the phone, you know" [04:56] lol === Hobbsee shrugs [04:56] oh well, hehe [04:56] bedtime [04:56] night all [04:56] gnight Hobbsee [05:05] has anyone noticed in the last few days there machine go very sluugish for a while then return to normal? kicker and kwin and maxing out the cpu while this is happening === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:25] one question [05:26] I remember that on my Dapper machines Adept refused to get localised [05:26] even though libept is 100% translated (I made sure it is) [05:27] adept refused to load the Czech translations [05:27] should I file a bug in adept or is this going to change in Edgy (I *really* wish we get to translate Edgy real soon)? [05:28] can't you start translating before string freeze? [05:30] seaLne: I can't start translating until they open up Rosetta [05:30] and it is still closed for Edgy [05:30] nevermind, I'll file a bug [05:30] ah === fritsch [i=ifr20HZ3@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === yuriy [n=yuriy@207-172-219-193.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RadiantFire [n=ryan@64.203.238.119] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === toma [n=toma@toma.kovoks.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure_ [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:16] how can I only mirror the dapper and edgy's archive? [07:17] --exclude in your rsync? [07:18] not that the older ones will exactly change much anyway === freeflying [n=freeflyi@221.221.160.148] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:20] hmm no that wouldn't realy work would it [07:21] seaLne: it can't work :) [07:21] hmm ah full mirror is 160Gb [07:22] now, full mirror seems far more than 160G [07:22] thats what mine is [07:23] I've mirrored 21G, but only 12% [07:24] mavor% du -sh ~ftp/ubuntu [07:24] 160G ubuntu/ [07:26] 12.5% == 1/8 so sounds right [07:27] :) [07:38] imbrandon: ignore my kscope request, fabo will merge kubuntu patches with the debian package, and i will request a sync when that is uploaded.. === Lure_ [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:08] whats kubuntu'ites [08:08] arg [08:08] whats up kubuntu'ites ;) [08:09] nixternal: not much, quiet day ;-) [08:09] looks like it..thats a good thing though ;) === Sime tried installing edgy. (installer kept crashing, when is knot 2 due?) [08:25] Sime: was it getting upset about apmd? [08:25] and i would guess knot2 won't be until some point after you can install the dailys [08:25] no, the installer wizard thingy would crash when it came time to actually format stuff and install the OS. [08:26] ah i was using alternate so probably missed anything like that [08:27] Sime: I just today installed Knot1 + dist-upgrade without problems [08:28] its the install not the end result thats the problem [08:28] I wanted it to use hdc. [08:28] install [08:34] any MOTU to look at powersave (fixing debian sync) & kpowersave (manual merge) [08:34] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2873 [08:34] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2874 [08:34] I was, but I was told you are working on them [08:36] crimsun: I did them, just need MOTU to do final look and upload [08:36] (I'm looking atm) [08:36] Hmm, I think I looked at kpowersave === omeow [n=omega@co63471-a.olden1.ov.home.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:39] bddebian: kpowersave MoM stuff was strange as major part was .po file diff - I have just used debian as base and moved forward ubuntu patches + control change [08:39] crimsun: thanks [08:40] powersave looks fine, though it would have been nice to document why the changes from Debian (dropping powerdev), which aren't immediately obvious for people "in the know", are necessary [08:42] crimsun: you are probably right - sync with debian has removed old Ubuntu change log which explained this in greater detail [08:42] crimsun: not sure if I should merge the changelog or just fix the last changelog [08:43] I'd merge the older Ubuntu changelog entries [08:43] crimsun: ok, will do that [08:43] thanks. [08:51] crimsun: since I have only re-did the changes from previous ubuntu releases (manual merge), should I just say "Merge from debian unstable" (as this is what I would do if the sync was not done)? [08:52] crimsun: now that changelog is complete, it does not makes much sense to repeat === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.33.39] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:00] Lure: as long as the old Ubuntu changelog entries are present, it's fine [09:01] crimsun: I have left it in, as at least one newer patch from debian was droped and that way it is more clear what is the diff between debian and ubuntu. [09:01] crimsun: new package is already on revu - and thanks for looking into this [09:08] Lure: fixed duplicate entries in debian/control [09:09] crimsun: duplicate entries? === el [n=konversa@p54BD132D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:30] debian/control has a duplicate entry for powersaveddebian/control has a duplicate entry for powersaved [09:30] (already fixed) === elvstone [n=elvis@h81n1fls35o879.telia.com] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === rraphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:02] Lure: false alarm, sorry. Used the diff instead of the source package. [10:03] crimsun: ok, I thought that I just do not understand the problem... ;-) [10:07] powersave uploaded & archived. [10:07] crimsun: thanks! [10:08] np [10:11] Sime: ping === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-132-079.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === aliasfred [n=fred@63.43.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua_@123.49.236.29] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-251-119-70.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:00] any thoughts on what to do with Malone bug 56168 [11:01] Malone bug 56168 in k3b "k3b should *not* calculate md5 sum of images by default" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/56168 [11:01] reject is feeling very tempting === aliasfred [n=fred@63.43.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [11:08] er, thats a bug? [11:16] sounds like a feature to me and it certainly dosen't eat cpu [11:19] yea i'm thinking thats the intended behavure, at best it should be filed upstream as a whislist [11:19] wishlist* [11:19] the md5 sum is in the background and halts if you hit burn [11:20] I'd mark it wishlist Importance [11:21] yea, i'm thinking he is just wanting a "stop" button [11:21] to stop it [11:21] that's about the only thing that's worth doing currently === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === superstoned [n=supersto@168-234.surfsnel.dsl.internl.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.109.24] has joined #kubuntu-devel