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thybohello?12:09
thyboanybody?12:09
Bearcatfoot: no prob. I'll be around12:09
narvik86thybo: hello12:10
thybohello narvik12:10
thybohow are you?12:10
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narvik86thybo: ok thx L(12:10
thybo:p12:10
thyboi have a problem with kafeine :'(12:11
narvik86thybo: o_O12:11
thyboi installed it12:11
thybobut12:11
thyboit wont play mp312:11
thyboor avi :(12:11
narvik86!mp312:11
thyboyeah12:11
narvik86installed codeck?12:12
narvik86installed codecs?12:12
thybou have to install codecs to?12:12
thybotoo?12:12
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thybowhen it installs xine it doesn't install the codecs along?12:12
narvik86not all12:12
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thybonot mp3? 0_o12:13
otaku-santhybo: neither will it do it for amarok12:13
otaku-santhybo: mp3 is a restricted format12:13
aliasfred!restricted12:14
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otaku-santhybo: it's not open source so normally you'll get !restricted format or what aliasfred just did12:14
otaku-santhybo: on this irc12:14
aliasfredthe bot is down ?12:14
narvik86yes :/12:14
aliasfredtoday is hollyday then :)12:15
macconlinehi... plugin flash in firefox 2.0 ???12:16
otaku-sanaliasfred: what do you mean the bot is down? for irc?12:16
aliasfredotaku-san: well he produced no answer and usual he does12:16
narvik86ubotu bot :)12:16
aliasfredso i guess he is down12:16
thyboso what do i do? :'(12:16
otaku-sanmacconline: everytime I've tried to install the flash plugin it freaks12:16
aliasfredthybo: google 'restricted ubuntu'12:17
otaku-sanmacconline: I've heard you can wine firefox to use flash...I think I'll try that12:17
thybocoz i like to read avi and mp312:17
thyboand wma12:17
otaku-sanme too!  I'm so restricted!12:18
thyboi used to be able to do it with knoppix12:18
thybohow come not with ubuntu?:s12:18
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aliasfredthybo: hehe :) no ubuntu is the only linux unable to do it ? well not is you google 'restricted format ubuntu' :)12:18
macconlineotaku-san: with wina??12:18
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macconlineotaku-san: with wine??12:19
thybobut mms does read mp3!!!12:19
thybothis drives me craz12:19
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thybocrrazy12:19
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aliasfredhehe :)12:19
thyboaliasfred explain me that :d12:20
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otaku-sanmacconline: yes google wine it allows Linux (and a few others) to be able to run Windoze apps12:20
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otaku-sanmacconline: for example you could run Winamp, or Internet Explorer in Linux.  In your case Windows Firefox (which can use flash) will be used12:22
macconlineotaku-san: but with wine install the plugin flash player in firefox???12:22
narvik86https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats12:23
macconlineotaku-san: ok, so firefox for windows with wine for to use in linux???12:24
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otaku-sanmacconline: Yep!12:24
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klerfaythow to open port 633712:27
macconlineotaku-san: why to use firefox for windows in linux, if have firefox for linux??12:27
klerfayt(udp)12:27
macconlineotaku-san: do not understand12:27
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otaku-sanmacconline: because the Linux version of firefox has a bug with Flash.  But Windoze version of Firefox is ok with Flash.12:28
narvik86macconline: to use windows flash plugin12:28
macconlineotaku-san: ok, very thanks...12:29
otaku-sanmacconline: no prob12:29
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macconlinenarvik86: thanks12:29
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otaku-sannarvik86: darn those restricted formats! ;)12:29
narvik86otaku-san: :)12:30
otaku-sangot to get off for a bit12:30
otaku-sanexit12:30
klerfaytflash over here freezes ffox sometimes...12:31
macconlinewine or xwine ??12:31
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wildbatanyone knows any good codec pack like (k-lite maga) in windows?12:37
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draikwow... this is a very exciting channel... woohoo!12:45
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megmeisterHey guys..12:46
narvik86hi12:46
megmeisteri am new to this so i really don't even know what i clicked on to get in here.. What is this?12:47
thybostill cant play mp3:d12:47
narvik86thybo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats it works, have to12:47
thyboi cant find the specified file in synaptic :|12:48
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narvik86thybo: ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic12:48
narvik86thybo: http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic12:49
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thybothx what is it12:49
thybo?12:49
draikmegmeister12:49
narvik86to create own sources.list12:49
draikyou are in an IRC, Internet Relay Chat12:50
draikmegmeister /topic12:50
narvik86i have to go, thybo create better sources.list and all of these (restricted) will be available12:50
narvik86good night all12:50
thybololo12:50
thybook12:50
thybothx12:50
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pmdo you know any sites with screenshots of kde 4?12:51
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draikgoogle images12:51
thybothere should be some on Osdir.com12:52
thyboi guess12:52
draikosvids.com maybe12:52
megmeisteri can't download anything from anywhere.. it won't let me12:54
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pmthanks12:58
thybo anyone got a healthy source i can add to get some codec packs01:00
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dekhow do I execute programs compiled by Free Pascal?01:06
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dekI created some "hello world" to test it, it compiles correctly and i got my "executable file", but I double click, and try console, but it doesn't do anything01:07
dekI checked permissions and "executable file" is checked01:07
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unix_infidelanyone know how many GB hard disk space macromedia mx takes?  The Recommended is only a couple hundered MB, but what's the real usage for the default suite install?01:09
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aliasfredmacromedia mx is on kubuntu ?!?!?01:11
unix_infidelaliasfred: cxoffice 501:11
aliasfred?01:12
unix_infidelwondering how much space it usually takes assuming you do the default install with a couple of needed plugins.01:12
unix_infidelaliasfred: short, answer, yes you can get it working in KUbuntu.01:12
aliasfredunix_infidel: any pointer on how ?01:13
unix_infidelcxoffice 501:13
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megmeisterseriously i need help with this..01:15
megmeisterhello?01:15
megmeisteranyone?01:15
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actinichey is anyone finding KDE 3.5.4 a bit sluggish compared to previous versions?01:21
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klerfaytwhere are located desktop menu entries?01:21
otaku-sanokay gonna be n00b for a bit. For AmaroK 1.4 it says Apt Source than gives deb and a link to an index then dapper main I didn't want to post the link cuz' of flood kills01:22
otaku-sanwhat do I do?01:22
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otaku-sanI'm installing Amarok...sorry tired01:24
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DFMwvwning01:30
DFMevening01:30
DFMtry it again01:30
dakoI am using KMail and did a encypt test. When I tried to open I got an error "Crypto plug-in "openpgp" could not decrypt the data."01:31
DFMI am in need of assistance. I am trying to install the driver for the ATI card on my ThinkPad a21m.01:31
DFMI am trying to run this command from the command prompt since I now have no X......gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:32
DFMI am using kubuntu 6.06 and I have read and followed instruction's from several sites and i always kill my X01:33
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DFMTell's me that gksudo isn't a valid command01:33
DFMneither is gedit so I tried kedit and got same response01:33
djk_try sudo nano /etc...01:35
DFMinplace of gedit ?01:36
DFMdrop gksudo and gedit for sudo nano?01:36
djk_yes01:36
DFMOk let me try that. Not familiar with how to edit from command line yet01:37
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djk_er..wait, you used to use ubuntu, now freshly installed kubuntu (meaning, not ubuntu+then kubuntu-desktop) ?01:38
DFMno I done a fresh install of kubuntu01:38
DFMprefer ke01:38
DFMkde01:38
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djk_gksudo and gedit is gnome-crap..try kdesu kate /etc/...01:39
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DFMgot my wifi going then done some update from the standard repository and resolution went to crap01:39
DFMfigured which is why I thought to substitute k for the g01:40
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DFMProblem I am having is very slow frame rate's due to wrong or basic driver for card. When I ran Linux on an old desktop with Nvidia I didn't have very much trouble installing the right driver.01:42
DFMSince this is an old laptop with Ati I don't want to change the vid card01:43
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djk_DFM: i suppose you can just follow the wiki..01:46
DFMTried numerous times01:46
DFMfigured I had to be doing something wrong01:46
DFMprobably still am01:46
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djk_maybe ask in #ubuntu since there's more activity atm01:47
DFMfirst I couldn't download the fglrx kept telling me error that it might break the system01:47
DFMfinally able to do that then when I follow the instructions and reboot it locks up and just shows the kubuntu splash01:48
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DFMSomehow I got my resolution back to 1024 x 768 but still can run any app that needs more that 1 to 2 FPS01:49
djk_have you confirmed that the driver is working01:50
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actinicDFM:  have you looked at EasyUbuntu to help with the ATI install?01:51
actinicIt's http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/overview.html01:51
djk_reconfigured xserver-xorg so you are actually using fglrx instead of ati?01:51
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DFMno I haven't didn't know of it yet. Thanks I will look now.01:51
DFMyes01:51
footany sign of bearcat?01:51
djk_and..confirmed that fglrx is even supporting your card?01:51
DFMusing command line from instructions on a page yet I don't believe that I changed everything properly01:52
DFMah no I have not done that.01:52
DFMguess I took for granted a 5 year old laptop with rage would be supported or be made to work01:52
DFMI have read in forums where people have made this card work01:53
actinicwow that's getting a bit long in the tooth01:53
DFMwell I picked up this thinkpad for $5001:53
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djk_sure it's most likely supported, but not by fglrx..01:53
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DFMreally just wanted wifi and stability and a learning platform01:54
djk_use gentoo if you want a real learning platform ;)01:54
DFMif not supported by fglrx where should I look?01:55
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DFMone day for sure but just getting a video card to work is kicking my arse............a littl01:55
djk_what's the name of the card anyway?01:56
wildbatanyone can PM a step by step info, that install kubuntu in WINXP ready system on second HD, which boot both OS in NTLDR ?01:56
DFMRage Mobility P/M AGP 2x rev 6401:57
djk_ntldr?01:57
DFMI believe with 16 megs01:57
DFMbrb01:57
Agioswildbat: search the kubuntu forums. There's probably a how-to01:57
wildbat<Agios>: I didn't ~ but i get a GRUB error instead01:58
wildbatI did  i mean ~01:58
djk_why do you want to use the ntldr instead of grub?02:00
actinicDFM, here's another ATI reference:  http://tazforum.thetazzone.com/viewtopic.php?t=218902:00
DFMthanks02:00
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wildbatdjk_: ntldr boot up faster ^^02:01
IceSerpenthello02:01
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IceSerpentdoes anybody know how to enable PDO extension in php5?02:03
footanyone familiar with tar?02:03
IceSerpentfoot: yes, why?02:03
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footIceSerpent: I am trying to install ivtv drivers. I am at the stage where it says to untar my file, and I want to make sure I am not screing anything up.02:04
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footIceSerpent: to untar a file I would use tar -xf   ...02:05
IceSerpentfoot: is the file compressed?02:05
footIceSerpent:  it is ivtv-0.4.6.tar.gz02:06
footIceSerpent: read I dont know.02:06
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IceSerpentfoot: 'tar zxvpf ivtv-0.4.6.tar.gz'02:06
footIceSerpent: thx02:06
IceSerpentfoot: z - to uncompress02:07
IceSerpentfoot: x - to untar02:07
IceSerpentfoot: v - to make tar chatty - safe to skip this one, if you want02:07
IceSerpentfoot: p - to preserve permissions, if I recall correctly02:07
footIceSerpent: i am folowing you up to the 'chatty'02:08
IceSerpentfoot: v == verbose, causes tar to give some extra output to the terminal02:08
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[mX] uhm.. is there a way to easily revert from edgy to dapper >:)02:11
footIceSerpent: thx much02:11
aarohii'm installig kubuntu-desktop. kdm configuration wants me to pick between kdm or gdm. i'm not sure as i've not tried them yet and not quite sure of the difference. please suggest what i should pick02:11
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Doodluvreally its preference to me...02:12
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DFMdjk since I am not registered I can't reply02:12
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DFMhow do I register. never really used irc before?02:13
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aarohiDFM: type /nickserv help register02:14
DFMk02:14
footIceSerpent: YES making headway again!!!! only been at this since tuesday noon02:14
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djk_aarohi: it doesn't matter, they both do the same..02:16
footdoes linux list all the errors at the end, before giving one back ones prompt?02:16
aarohidjk_: i choosed gdm02:16
DFMREGISTERMANDRAKE02:18
djk_close02:18
DFMwell now that wasn't very smart02:18
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aarohiDFM: indeed02:20
DFMthanks djk02:22
djk_you're welcome02:22
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claudioHi from Brasil !!02:24
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dekhow do I compile Beesoft Commander? http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=3743502:25
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soulriderive been trying to compile it too, but with no luck... anyone ?02:26
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neuraloverloadCan anyone tell me how to enable Mp3 support on Kubuntu, please?02:32
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neuraloverloadI googled and googled for hours... :(02:32
draik!restricted02:32
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:32
draikneuraloverload > !restricted02:33
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neuraloverloadI looked at the restricted formats guide02:36
neuraloverloadCant get it to work02:36
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HawkwindDefine *Can't get it to work*02:36
Hawkwindneuraloverload: Just install all the packages it lists and mp3 support will work02:37
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nejodego to synaptic/adept and install evrything that says lame02:37
AgiosI'm guessing he can't fiogure out how to add the restricted keyword to his sources02:38
neuraloverloadYou mean02:38
neuraloverloadUmm...02:38
Hawkwindneuraloverload: What's the exact problem you're having ?02:38
neuraloverloadlibxine-extracodecs02:38
actinicneuraloverload, here's the easy way: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/overview.html02:38
neuraloverloadHmm02:39
neuraloverloadIll try it02:39
nejodehow about automatix?02:40
actinicyeah that works too02:40
actinicbut the purists around here disdain it02:40
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footgedit and vim basicly do the same thing right?02:41
IceSerpentcan anybody tell me which package installs lex please?02:41
nejodegedit=gui  vim=cli02:42
sonicHi there, I just upgraded a machine to dapper and went to log in (remotely). I'm getting a warning saying: 'WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED!'. How can I fix this?02:42
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Hawkwindsonic: It's just a warning, it should still let you in.  If not, remove the key from your local machiens ~/.ssh/known_hosts file and then ssh in again02:44
bigbill52ais there something wrong with the weather aplet...you put in the correct location..but you can select it in the first tab..and it doesnt do anything but show a question mark02:44
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bigbill52acan't select it02:44
Hawkwindbigbill52a: Try adding a second one and see if the first one works then02:44
bigbill52aok02:44
sonicThere's a load of keys there and I can't find the one with the ip02:44
sonicI'll look again02:45
ubuntuHow can I get kubuntu on my language, brazilian portuguese? Is there a lang_package for it?02:45
Hawkwindsonic: Well certainly you know the IP of the machine you are trying to ssh to.  Use an editor and use it's search function02:45
ubuntuOn ubuntu I could install direct on my language...02:45
neuraloverloadHey actinic, i think this is gonna work, thanks man :D02:45
bigbill52asays unknown station in the first tab...02:45
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actinicneuraloverload, no problem and remember, there's always an easy way :)02:46
sonicHawkwind: The ip isn't there02:46
sonicShould I just add it?02:47
bigbill52akweather error..station doesnt exist..even though it updates in the 2nd tab02:47
neuraloverloadYeap02:47
Hawkwindsonic: If it's not there then it should allow you to ssh in without warning.  That warning you can answer Yes to and it'll let you in02:48
sonicI don't get the option02:48
sonicRSA host key for 192.168.5.51 has changed and you have requested strict checking.02:48
sonicHost key verification failed.02:48
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IceSerpent/quit03:03
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footHas anyone seen a bearcat roaming about?03:15
crimsuna ... what?03:15
Hawkwindfoot: I haven't seen him here today03:16
Hawkwindcrimsun: He's looking for someone by the nick of 'bearkat'03:17
footHawkwind: thanks, I rebooted and forgot to restart konversation ;/03:17
otaku-sanfoot: I saw him earlier today about 4ish but he got off03:17
otaku-sancmt time that is03:18
Hawkwind!seen bearkat03:18
ubotuI haven't seen bearkat recently03:18
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footthanks. I spoke to him a while ago, he will be back03:18
otaku-sancool03:18
otaku-sanhey hey n00b question!03:19
otaku-sanok I'm trying to get amarok to play mp3's (!restricted I know) and I know I need the libxine-extracodecs03:20
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otaku-sanso I'm on packages.ubuntu.com and I found it but it's in 7 different packs...do I just down them all and compile?03:21
otaku-sanor did I just scare you guys away?03:22
Hawkwindotaku-san: No.  sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs03:22
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otaku-sanahhhhh duh!  Ok I've been trying to get Kubuntu setup with what I want...and it's really really fun! *eye twitch*03:24
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otaku-sanHawkwind: thanks ok time to try it03:24
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ryanakcaforward from #kubuntu-fr: For some reason (asker doesn't know why, or steps to reproduce), He can no longer add bookmarks to his bookmarks bar... it's empty... (Konqueror, Dapper)03:27
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otaku-sanHawkwind: hey it didn't work. it's pulling off the old "package is not available" bit and "E: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate" whats up?03:32
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naliothryanakca: you still working on the bookmarks thing?03:32
ryanakcanalioth: bookmarks thing? I don't know if I'm thinking of the same thing as you are... but yes... it is a "bookmark" thing03:33
ryanakcanalioth: why... is it a bug??03:33
naliothryanakca: are you still helping the guy?03:33
ryanakcanalioth: among other things... like watching "the last of the mohicans" out of the corner of my eye... and doing that NUN stuff...03:34
Hawkwindotaku-san: Then you need to enable universe and multiverse for *all* of your sources03:35
naliothryanakca: check and see if his .$browswer dir is writeable and further, if his bookmarks.htm file is writeable03:35
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ryanakcanalioth: kk03:36
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ryanakcanalioth: I had had him move all the konqueror folders from ~/.kde   to ~/ ... didn't work03:37
naliothah, konqueror.  he probably used sudo or something03:37
otaku-sanHawkwind: in Adept under manage repos...I tried that...tho' let me check it again to see if I missed a repo03:37
otaku-sanHawkwind: yep they're all enabled...maybe rebootin' will work?03:39
ryanakcanalioth: nope...03:39
Hawkwindotaku-san: Rebooting is for Windows users, or after installing a new kernel03:39
Hawkwindotaku-san: Did you do: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs03:39
DaSkreechAHhhhhh03:39
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footbearcat: Ahh just the feline ursine I was looking for03:40
Bearcatlol03:40
djk_Hawkwind: rebooting is for crappy windows users...03:40
Bearcatfoot: actually, i'm just a feline, but i'll excuse the transgression....this time! <.<  >.>03:41
otaku-sanHawkwind: Hahaha! yeah rebooting is for windoze. Yes, and I tried that update than install too.03:41
ryanakcadjk_:  ever had fun with with new kernel modules?03:41
Hawkwindotaku-san: Can you put your /etc/apt/sources.list into http://pastebin.ca please03:41
djk_ryanakca: why are you asking?03:41
otaku-sanHawkwind: sure hold on03:42
Bearcatfoot: so what's up?03:42
footBearcat: so I got a bit farther on my brain, some fleas did loose their life in the overclock heat wave, now I am all they way down to seting up myth tv but the distructions are for gnome, and I am a foot!03:42
DFMAnyone able to tell me how long easyubuntu should take to install everything? The shell stopped at "setting up libqt-perl (3.008-1.4)03:43
BearcatBearcat is listening to "Ananamin" by Keita, Salif on Moffou with amaroK  <---- just for you foot03:43
Bearcatfoot: cool! That's not to hard to figure out with me around. *struts*03:44
DFMjust a flashing cursor and appears to be no activity on the HD03:44
ryanakcadjk_: "rebooting is for crappy windows users..."       I remember having to reboot several times.... when messing around with kernel modules and stuff03:44
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DFMshould I just let it sit for awhile and see what happens?03:44
Bearcatfoot: you need to find the menu editor in this distro03:44
djk_ryanakca: i was replying to Hawkwinds statement that 'rebooting is for windows'...03:45
Bearcatfoot: actually, its just "kmenuedit" in a terminal03:45
footBearcat: any hints?)03:45
footBearcat: do I specify what I want to edit?03:46
Bearcatnope that command will just open it up03:46
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footBearcat: O'Tay03:47
Bearcatfoot: i donno if kubuntu installed a menu item for mythtv for you, but look under Multimedia first.03:47
otaku-sanHawkwind: my konqueror can't upload or download to my full bandwidth potential so it's a bit slow....Firefox can tho' so it loading hold on03:47
footBearcat: WARNING: Could not read /home/lovely/.config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu03:47
c0rruptis there anyway to listen to sound on more then one application at the same time?03:48
c0rruptmy sound card is realtek ac'9703:48
Hawkwindc0rrupt: If your sound card supports it, sure03:48
c0rruptwell how do i know if it does03:48
otaku-sanHawkwind: here you go  http://pastebin.ca/12716303:48
c0rruptdo i have to install drivers for it or something?03:48
Bearcatfoot: actually wait03:48
HawkwindMajority of the onboard cards don't support dual channel03:48
footBearcat: kmenu editor03:48
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c0rruptis there any work arounds?03:48
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footBearcat: would it be listed under multimeadia?03:49
Bearcatyess03:49
Bearcatif it's there at all03:49
Hawkwindotaku-san: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=545.003:49
Hawkwindotaku-san: That's my current sources.list03:49
footBearcat: no love Doctor Jon... err ahh cat03:50
Hawkwindotaku-san: If you want, replace yours with that one and then do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs03:50
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Hawkwindc0rrupt: Go purchase a cheap $20 SBLive card from Walmart03:50
Bearcatfoot: ok, then we'll make one, but let me ask you a few things first03:50
c0rruptwhy SBLive ?03:50
Bearcatfoot: nevermind. let's just do it.03:50
footBearcat: yes I respect you ;)03:50
Bearcatfoot: O.o  putz03:50
footBearcat: lol03:51
Bearcatfoot: anyway, with Multimedia selected, click on the "new item" icon in your toolbar03:51
msimmonsany thinkpad users?03:52
footBearcat: and the name is?03:52
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Bearcatfoot:  "MythTv Set-up" or something like that03:52
otaku-sanHawkwind: question....sad as it is  how do you work a editor program in root?  I've been wondering this03:52
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footBearcat: I thought linux was specific?!?03:52
Hawkwindotaku-san: kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list03:53
Hawkwindotaku-san: Replace 'kwrite' with the editor of your choice03:53
Bearcatfoot: it is, but your just telling it what you want the title to be in your K-menu03:53
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footBearcat: and this is the setup file or the run file or both?03:53
Bearcatfoot: in the "command:" field put "mythtv-setup"03:54
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Bearcatfoot: this is just the setup program03:54
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footBearcat: done03:54
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otaku-sanHawkwind: ahh and for gpg's you would put sudo gpg -keyserver.... to use them as root?03:54
Bearcatfoot: click the checkbox for "Run as a different user" and "username" will become enabled. Put "mythtv" in that box. It is case specific03:55
footBearcat: next?03:55
BearcatThat;s it, but let's add an entry for the main program shall we?03:56
Hawkwindotaku-san: I assume.  I've never really messed with gpg stuff to be honest03:56
BearcatSelect Multimedia and click on "New Item" again03:56
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footBearcat:  btw, I didnt get an account with the zap2it page yet. I had a question or two03:57
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otaku-sanHawkwind: cool okay time for some hackin'03:58
Bearcatfoot: Name: MythTv, Command: myth-frontend. You might as well have it run as "mythtv" as well, we can always change that later.03:58
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Bearcatfoot: by the way, where this how-to tells you to restart, it's unnessesary for a few of them03:59
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Bearcatfoot: also, before you run mythtv-set up you'll want to make this chat window "keep above other windows. The mythtv apps are full screen. If you loose the window, you can always cycle to it with alt-tab. You might try an alt-tab now to see what it does.04:00
footBearcat: ok, so save the mythtv multimedia04:01
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footBearcat: also by using the scroll bar on the mouse.04:01
DaSkreechBye yall04:02
Bearcatfoot: oh, cool. i didn't realise that was the default kubutu set up. You can change what your mouse buttons do in the desktop settings04:02
otaku-sanHawkwind: should I have kept the original repos in the source list and added the extras or just take out the original and put the extras in it's place?04:02
Bearcatmy mouse wheel switches desktops, because jaguarundi are just cool like that.04:02
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DaSkreechotaku-san: Keep the original04:02
Hawkwindotaku-san: That list on my forums has all of the originals, plus the new stuff04:02
c0rruptHawkwind is there any place to check if my card supports dual channel04:03
c0rrupt"7.1 channel out"04:03
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otaku-sanHawkwind: Yeah I saw that Forum list contained the original so I just replaced the original04:04
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c0rrupt`djk_, you get my pms?04:04
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Hawkwindotaku-san: If you read the entire post, at the top it tells you about moving your current list to a backup spot04:04
otaku-sanyeah I did04:04
otaku-sanand theres undo04:05
unix_infidelanyone know where i can find some cheap case fans?04:05
Bearcatunix_infidel: newegg.com is usually my first stop. Also you might check compugeeks.com04:05
unix_infidelnewegg is a terrible place to shop imho.04:06
Bearcatunix_infidel: if you want cheap and fancy with a *awesome* return policy chekc out frozencpu.com *first*04:06
unix_infidelbut i'll check out compugeeks, thanks.04:06
Bearcatunix_infidel: no problem04:06
unix_infidelBearcat: i could care less if they were a nasty brown.04:06
unix_infidelas long as they were cheap, and they arrived sooner than lter.04:07
Bearcatunix_infidel: energency, huh?04:07
footBearcat: what am I doing?04:07
unix_infidelBearcat: no, nothing like that...just impatience.04:07
Bearcatfoot: you're asking ME?04:07
Bearcatfoot: :P04:07
Bearcatfoot: you saved the menu changes right?04:07
footBearcat: yes04:07
footBearcat: so now the mythtv setup?04:08
Bearcatyes. Did you turn off the sound server in the control center? It's called arts?04:09
footnope04:09
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Bearcatlet's do that first. let's go to "kcontrol"04:10
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Bearcatfoot: in kcontrol, under "Sound adn Multimedia" you should see "sound system". Select that.04:10
footBearcat: got it04:11
footBearcat: disable?04:11
Hawkwindunix_infidel: Order from anywhere and pay for overnight shipping if you can't be patient.  That, or order sooner and don't complain about the wait time04:11
Bearcatfoot: make sure that "Enable the sound system" is NOT checked and hit Apply04:11
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footBearcat: ok04:11
Bearcatfoot: did the "mythfilldatabase" run correctly?04:12
footBearcat: ok kitty, sorry Mr. Kitty, we left the page how to a bit ago and I am following your distructions now, since that page is no longer valid. no04:14
Bearcatfoot: the page is still valid04:14
Bearcatso you got the ivtv drivers all loaded?04:14
footBearcat: now you tell me :P04:15
Bearcati just meant we may not have to restart like he says we do04:15
Bearcatfoot: i just meant we may not have to restart like he says we do04:15
Bearcatfoot: have you rebooted since instaling the ivtv drivers?04:15
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footBearcat: yes04:16
Bearcatfoot: awesome!04:16
footBearcat: and I ran mythtv-install from the kmenu. nothing aparent happend04:16
Bearcatfoot: now run "mythfilldatabase" it may complain about authorization, but ignore that04:16
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Bearcatfoot: oh..wait04:17
Bearcatfoot: wait wait04:17
obf213ive asked this a few times but is there any c programmer that just works the same way windows c program builders work04:17
footBearcat:  database error,   password04:18
Bearcatfoot: that's ok04:18
footBearcat: I was strutting earlierer too04:18
footBearcat: *waiting*04:19
Bearcatfoot: before we getinto any of the mythtv apps, you should know that hitting "esc" will back you up one level. Hitting it repetedly will get you out of the app04:19
footok04:19
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footlike the old commadore 6404:19
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footor was it the TI 99/4a?04:20
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Bearcatfoot: right04:21
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Bearcatfoot: what happends when you do "mythtv-setup" in the terminal?04:21
otaku-sanHawkwind: Finished!04:22
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otaku-sanHawkwind: and installed libxine-extracodecs perfectly!  Thanks man!  Now to try Amarok04:25
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Hawkwindotaku-san: Awesome.  Glad to hear it04:27
windhey everyone04:27
windhey Hawkwind, is there a package that allows you to manage your finances?04:28
windlike credit card bills, house bills, etc04:28
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Hawkwindwind: I'm sure there is, maybe gnucash ?04:28
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robotgeekkmymoney2!04:29
windhm04:29
robotgeekeven does qif imports well. (once you get past the date template)04:30
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otaku-sanHawkwind: You are so great!  Oh man I am streaming my favorite radio right now and it's thanks to you...without these streams I don't know if I could of lasted for long!  (I'm so odd)04:30
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Hawkwindotaku-san: Hah.  I know all about streams.  I have my own that plays 24/7 that plays anything from country music, alternative, 80's, old-school rap, and other stuff04:32
visik7anyone know where I can find docs on how to get installation via ubiquity unattended ?04:32
nabz_how can u change your kde theme after installing one?04:34
Hawkwindnabz_: You can do it via kcontrol and Look & Feel04:34
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nabz_kcontrol? lol, soz im kinda new to this04:34
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nabz_ah nvm04:35
nabz_there is no look & feel :s04:35
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nabz_nvm04:36
windhey Hawkwind, where is gnucash after i do apt-get install04:36
nabz_lol04:36
Hawkwindnabz_: Just type 'kcontrol' into a terminal, then look around04:37
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Hawkwindwind: Type: 'gnucash' from a terminal.  I don't use KDE so I don't know how the menus are setup04:37
windk04:37
windthanks04:37
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robotgeekwind: if you use kde, i would recommend kmymoney04:38
windoh alright04:38
windwait, what's the diff?04:38
HawkwindThough gnucash works perfectly fine in KDE04:38
soulrider_otaku-san: hes allways answering questions04:38
Hawkwindwind: Run them both, see what *you* like, not what others like04:38
windhm well what i used to use (with windows) is uh... notepad04:39
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robotgeekwind: gnucash is written for gnome, kmymoney is written for kde. i've used both, i found kmymoney to work very nicely.04:39
windso either i'm guessing is going to work fine04:39
jaenhi, somebodi want to help me to listen my dvd's in kubuntu, i can see them with kafeine but i can't hear anything04:39
windi'll try both04:39
Eeyore! dvd04:39
ubotuSee http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages04:39
robotgeeki dont know what version of gnucash is in the repositories, the older one was gtk 1.0 == ugly04:39
HawkwindBut just because it's a gnome app doesn't mean it doesn't work in KDE.  And of course vice-versa04:39
unix_infidelwind: there are much better accounting apps for windows.  But honestly, if you use notepad gnucash or the kde equiv would work just fine.04:39
jaenthank ubotu04:40
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unix_infidelyour CPA might find some formats easier to play with than others though.  Just make sure the stuff is readable.04:40
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otaku-sansoulrider_: sorry for late reply!  Hehe yes I can see that!04:40
archangel_whatsup whatsup!!04:41
archangel_Hey what program do  you use with the ipod?04:41
windwow, gnucash just opened up a big click-down list of stuff... :/04:41
windlets see how kmymoney works out04:42
visik7bug 104:42
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archangel_anyone here use their ipod with linux?04:42
robotgeekarchangel_: i suppose amarok manages it, i dont have an ipod though04:43
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archangel_I'll try it04:43
archangel_thanx bro04:43
Hawkwindarchangel_: gtkpod is one of if not the best appt o use04:43
Hawkwinds/appt o/app to04:44
archangel_I'll try it04:44
archangel_thanks04:44
Eeyore! gtkpod04:45
ubotuI know nothing about gtkpod - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu04:45
Hawkwind!info gtkpod04:45
ubotugtkpod: manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod. In repository universe, is extra. Version 0.99.2-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 480 kB, installed size 1988 kB04:45
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windk.. i'm not exactly sure what half of this stuff means04:46
windi just want to be able to put my cc spending limit and balance on here04:47
windthen when i make a payment or buy something i just add it as i go04:47
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robotgeekwind: sure, you can do that.04:47
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windhow04:47
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robotgeekwind: have you looked at the handbook?04:48
windgetting on it04:49
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robotgeekhowdy seth04:52
sethheya robotgeek, I haven't seen you around in a while04:52
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robotgeekseth: jump into kofftopic04:52
Bearcathow does one restart a service in kubuntu (my distro is diffrerent)04:53
dragon-1Hello04:53
robotgeekBearcat: usually /etc/init.d/service restart04:54
robotgeekrestart, err04:54
dragon-1Any one here Proficeint with Lap top touch pads an Kubuntu?  I'm trying to figure out how to disable the touch pad click feature.04:54
Bearcatthank04:54
robotgeekdragon-1: what hardware?04:54
dragon-1Compaq Prosario?  or do you need to touch pad information?04:55
robotgeekno, i know how to do it on a mac, so sorry04:55
dragon-1Crapola04:55
dragon-1How different can it realy be?  Were using the same software?04:56
dragon-1Maybe you'll be able to point me in the right direction and I can figure from there.04:56
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dragon-1Is it a built in Kubuntu feature, or is it entirely hardware related?04:57
Bearcatfoot: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restary04:57
lozzzihi! how do I use locate to search only within some directories??04:57
robotgeekdragon-1: its a different mac software called pbbuttonsd, (powerbook buttons deamon)04:58
dragon-1Was that directed to me Bercat?04:58
Bearcatdragonkh: nope04:58
dragon-1Was this a software that you acquired from MAC, or a Linux software resource?04:59
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footAccess denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: YES)04:59
Bearcatfoot: got it05:00
lozzziis there any way to search files but only within a directory? I'm using <locate -d /home/etc nameoffile> but not working05:00
Bearcatfoot: su mythtv05:01
Kr4t05I can mount an ISO disk image, right?05:01
robotgeekKr4t05: sure05:01
Hawkwindlozzzi: Look into using find instead05:01
HawkwindKr4t05: mount -o loop -t iso9660 /full/path/to/foo.iso /mnt/some/mount/point/you/created05:02
robotgeekKr4t05: you might need a -loop or something05:02
Kr4t05Hawkwind: what about a .dmg?05:02
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HawkwindKr4t05: Never dealt with a .dmg, but you could try it05:02
HawkwindKr4t05: You can mount an .img file the same05:03
Kr4t05ok05:03
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lozzziHawkwind: do you mean <find /home/etc nameofArchive>?05:04
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Bearcatfoot: you did the section where it told you to "sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin right?05:05
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xwolf--please, i need some help here. i tried to resize my linux partition in partition magic (windows), but the program crashed and the partition is now corrupted. since grub was installed there, it gets an error and now i can`t load windows nor linux (only with livecd here)05:06
Hawkwindlozzzi: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=383.0  Read that post on my forum.  Also, 'man find' for more details on how it works05:06
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lozzziok05:07
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footBearcat: I dont have that on the page I have been following  http://www.quietglow.com/docs/ubuntumythtv.html05:08
Bearcatfoot: it's in Step two- install apache. Did you do that section05:09
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windhow do i put a total spending limit in institutions (for a cc) in kmymoney05:10
footyes, and it went smothly05:10
footBearcat: yes, and it went smoothly05:10
Bearcatso when you're in a web browser adn you type in "localhost" for an address what do you get?05:11
footBearcat: did the password and everything05:11
Bearcatfoot: was the password that you entered for the mythtv user's connection to the database the same as the password you made for the user?05:12
Bearcatfoot: i know that's confusng05:13
footBearcat: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2034405:13
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footBearcat: almost but not quite, I think05:13
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footBearcat: btw can I turn my sound back on?05:14
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Bearcatin the mythtv-setup when it is asking you for a password for the database, it means the password that you gave when you were setting up the database, not the one for the user05:14
Bearcatfoot: you still have sound, it's just not through the soudn server. You do not' want the sound server on anyway. Arts is a bad program that has been unmaintained for years.05:15
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soulrider_Hawkwind: linuxfordummies.org is your forum?05:15
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footBearcat: ok, so do the setup again05:15
xwolf--please, i need some help here. i tried to resize my linux partition in partition magic (windows), but the program crashed and the partition is now corrupted. since grub was installed there, it gets an error and now i can`t load windows nor linux (only with livecd here). i need to resize the partition before reinstalling kubuntu dapper. i`m in the livecd now05:16
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Bearcatfoot: yeah. Do you remember what the password was?05:16
soulrider_xwolf--: you should try resotring the grub first05:17
soulrider_thats what i would do05:17
soulrider_and then see if you can boot05:17
soulrider_can you see the partitions using hte liveCD?05:17
footBearcat:  dont you???????  ;P}05:17
BearcatO.o05:17
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Hawkwindsoulrider_: Yes it is05:17
foot*ducks*05:18
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xwolf--soulrider_ i can mount the partition windows is on, but can`t mount the rest of the hard disk05:18
soulrider_cool, im gonna reg :)05:18
footBearcat: I do not however remember how to get to the setup.05:19
windi don't think i'm using this kmymoney thing right05:19
djk_xwolf--: try fsck (read the manpage) to repair the grub/linux partition/s, repair grub if needed, resize partitions with gparted..05:19
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Bearcatfoot: "mythtv-setup"05:19
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Bearcatfoot: i think proudfoot is trying to show off to you :)05:19
soulrider_i dont know much about partitons, but maybe it got fooked05:19
soulrider_what -> I <- would try would be restoring the grub05:20
soulrider_and if that doesnt work05:20
soulrider_maybe try to copy the contents of hte linux partition from windows onto another drive05:20
footBearcat: AHH pride.     I remember that but from lovely hermes or where?05:20
soulrider_and reformat the partition05:20
xwolf--yes. i want to restore it, but don`t know how05:20
Knightlustquestion, the grub menu at bootup, is there someway i could make it graphical05:20
xwolf--soulrider_ that`s exactly what i want to do05:21
soulrider_there is a very good link in the forum05:21
soulrider_i would say05:21
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soulrider_go to win05:21
soulrider_and try to backup all the kubuntu drive files05:21
Knightluste.g. Fedora or Mandriva (which uses LiLo)05:21
xwolf--i cant boot to win as grub is `corrupted`05:21
soulrider_then try to restore grub05:21
djk_Knightlust: by graphical you mean a shiny 4-color background?05:21
soulrider_if it foesnt work, start over05:21
soulrider_oh05:21
soulrider_:/05:21
soulrider_youre right...05:21
xwolf--soulrider_ how do i override grub?05:21
soulrider_let me get you the link05:22
Knightlustno, not color, but kinda like a wallpaper05:22
djk_xwolf--: did you even read what i said?05:22
Knightlusti've been trying to emulate fedora05:22
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xwolf--soulrider_  delete it, whatever, just want it out, and get the windows bootloader working05:22
Knightlustbut failed, don't know how, I already consulted google and some forums05:22
djk_Knightlust: that's pretty much what i meant..search for bootsplash /grubsplash05:22
footBearcat: exit05:22
xwolf--djk_: i did, but i think it wont work because partition magic were to merge the partitions, then resize the big one, before it crashed05:23
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Knightlusthmmm, ok05:23
djk_Knightlust: btw, 14 colours, typo ^^05:23
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djk_xwolf--: let's see, you ask for help, you get help, you don't try, you don't think it will work, .....05:24
soulrider_i think that you wont be able to get into win unless you restore it05:24
soulrider_but i may be wrong05:24
soulrider_!grub05:24
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto05:24
xwolf--root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# fsck /dev/hda505:24
xwolf--fsck 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)05:24
xwolf--fsck: fsck.ntfs: not found05:24
xwolf--fsck: Error 2 while executing fsck.ntfs for /dev/hda505:24
soulrider_follow the first link05:24
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fidelargghh...so i made an iso of a video dvd using mkisofs, then tried to burn in w/ k3b. it works in my desktop, it works in my laptop, but it won't work in my dvd player. any ideas? the files are vobs05:24
djk_Knightlust: http://ruslug.rutgers.edu/~mcgrof/grub-images/05:25
Knightlusthey, hey, thanks djk_05:25
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djk_Knightlust: you're welcome05:25
Knightlustmy thanks djk_, very helpful05:26
xwolf--soulrider_: i was reading that before i came here. i'm sorry but i couldnt find what i need there05:26
fidelif it matters, i'm currently using vobcopy to make a copy on my hdd and then try k3b again.05:27
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footBearcat: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2034505:29
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djk_xwolf--: fsck doesn't fix ntfs. fsck is for unix filesystems05:30
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xwolf--"partition magic were to merge the partitions, then resize the big one. between these two events, it crashed"05:30
xwolf--i'll put this hard disk as a slave in another computer and see what i can save05:31
djk_idiot..05:32
Hawkwinddjk_: Hah05:33
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fidelso I'm SOL on a little help w/ the dvd thing?05:34
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fideland yes, I read the forums. still doesn't seem to want to work.05:35
djk_Hawkwind: honestly, what did he come here for? If he wanted to repair the ntfs, he'd have had to use chkdsk05:35
Hawkwinddjk_: Not sure myself.  I don't do anything Windows related, so I wasn't about to get into that conversation :)05:37
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djk_Hawkwind: If he had read the fsck manpage, he'd have had at least a chance...05:39
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djk_fidel: i haven't authored a video-dvd yet, did you double-check if you used the correct settings in mkisofs +k3b ?05:40
fideltook it right out of the forums05:40
djk_fidel: finalized it?05:40
fidelyep05:40
djk_dvdplayer should support it?05:40
windit seems that kmymoney2 is a bit easier to use then gnucash, thanks though Hawkwind05:41
fidelit runs the original dvd05:41
fidelwhich is what i copied using mkisofs05:41
Agiosk9copy, dvdshrink?05:41
Agioswhy reinvent the wheel05:41
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ShadowMananyone here can help me05:42
ShadowMani am a completly newbie05:42
fidelcuz i don't have a repos with k9copy05:42
djk_fidel: well, my dvdplayer doesn't like some dvd-media..05:42
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Healot!ask > ShadowMan05:42
fideldvd-r?05:42
djk_fidel: yes05:42
ShadowMani want to run a bashscript to convert redhat cds into a single dvd05:42
dragon-1Hello, Is anyone hear know how to disable the "tap to click" feature on PC Laptop touchpads, running Linux.  If it matters I am running a Compaq Presario.05:42
Dark_Oppressoris there a program to run that will help me to configure xorg.conf properly?05:42
ShadowMani have found the bashscript called makedvd.sh05:42
ShadowManbut i dont kno whow to use it05:42
windhow do i force close something?05:43
HealotDark_Oppressor, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"05:43
djk_wind: kill <PID> in a terminal05:43
windpid?05:43
djk_the process number..05:43
Healotthe output you get from "ps"05:43
Bearcatok, folks foot and i need a little help. Has anyone in here ever setup mythtv on kubuntu?05:44
windum05:44
ShadowMannoone has the answer to my question :(05:44
windwhat if it's a program?05:44
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Agioskillall -9 <program>05:44
Dark_OppressorHealot: thanks05:45
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HealotShadowMan, technically, we don't support such script, or we may not have knowledge about such script...05:45
windthankie05:45
foothttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2034705:45
ShadowManbut you know how to run ANY .sh scriipt ?05:45
HealotYES, ShadowMan05:45
Healotsh filename.sh05:45
ShadowMancan i have  alist of commands fo rthat :P05:45
ShadowManthat will directly RUN ? or some precompilation stuffs05:45
Healotit's script, no compilation needed05:46
ShadowManohhhh05:46
ShadowMank, thanks :)05:46
Healotit's interpreted by the shell05:46
ShadowMannice05:46
ShadowMangoing back to linux and trying it :P05:46
ShadowManill brb if i cant seem to solve it :P05:46
ShadowManseems simple05:46
ShadowManthanks bro05:46
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chansonhello everyone .. how to find more channels ?05:47
Hawkwindchanson: /msg chanserv list *search-term-here*05:47
Bearcatwhen doign a mythtv-set up, foot sees "Database not open while trying to load setting: Language05:47
Bearcat 2006-08-11 21:27:22.100 Unable to connect to database!05:47
Bearcat 2006-08-11 21:27:22.101 Driver error was [1/1045] :"05:47
Hawkwindchanson: If you're using Xchat, then Windows -> Channel List05:47
Hawkwindchanson: Or you can also just type: /list   but that's pretty nasty as it puts it into your IRC client directly05:47
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djk_chanson: F5 in konversation05:48
chansonthanks !!!05:48
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beelihey!05:48
chansoni'm using Xwindow05:48
earthsoundi am installing kubuntu on a new HD and I'd like to create an NTFS partition, but it isn't an option in the partition utility. is there a utility on the alternate install CD that can do this?05:49
chansonis it can be use at Commandline Mode ?05:49
maltaethironguys, if i search in synaptic, should i be able to find .mpg, .wmv, and .avi plugins for kaffeine?05:49
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Healotearthsound, the partitioner doesn't support creating NTFS partition, try fdisk instead, man fdisk for more options05:50
farousmaltaethiron: nope.05:50
farous!restricted formats > maltaethiron05:50
farousread ubotu pm maltaethiron05:50
farouswill tell you how to play those formats05:50
maltaethironty farous05:50
Healotthe partitioner on the alternate CD can resize/delete ntfs partitions though, earthsound05:50
farous:)05:51
earthsoundHealot: man isn't in the alt. install CD :(05:51
windwould it be wise to put my online banking info into kmymoney05:51
Healotyeah05:51
Healotuse the online man, it's like everywhere on the net, try the one on Debian's site05:51
earthsoundHealot: ah, perhaps I'll format it in winblows and then resize during the install...05:51
wind?05:51
djk_earthsound: gparted can create NTFS..05:51
Healotit's Windows for Bill's sake05:52
earthsoundwhich partition utility comes with the alt. install CD?05:52
Healotparted, yes and fdisk too...05:52
farouswind: i never put import infor on any pc05:52
Hawkwindwind: All depends on how secure your system is or how safe you feel the info is on your system05:52
windk05:52
djk_earthsound: why would you have to resize after you created the ntfs? why not create it at the size you want right away and leave the rest alone?05:52
windnevermind then05:52
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earthsounddjk_: good point05:52
Healotbut the install CD doesn;t have parted... maybe you can get parted bootable CD from parted's sourceforge site05:53
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NimweiIs there a package available I can get to install a kubuntu theme? My KDM install didn't include any.05:53
windanyway i think i got it all setup05:53
wind<305:53
nabzhey. whats the move command on terminal?05:53
djk_gparted has a Live-CD05:53
Nimweinabz - mv05:53
djk_http://gparted.sourceforge.net/05:53
earthsoundyes, the install cd does have parted...I've never used it, but it doesn't appear to hard to understand05:53
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nabzty05:53
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Bearcatfoot: mysql --user=root --password05:53
footfoot: mysql --user=root --password05:54
earthsoundparted version 1.6.25.1 is on the alt. install CD05:54
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earthsoundbbiab05:54
Bearcatfoot: then type in lovey's assword05:54
Bearcatfoot: er...password, not assword. If lovey has an "assword" i don't wnat to know.05:55
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djk_parted doesn't support anything..why is it being used?05:56
Sir_Brizzwhat does the standard Live CD have on it? qparted?05:56
beeliHey!05:56
beeliYou are sink!05:57
HealotFur Kubuntu, it's qtparted05:57
beeliI feel goood for you, this site is really rapid!05:57
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earthsounddjk_: you are right...it doesn't seem to like the unformated 250GB SATA HD :(05:57
HealotFur ubuntu it's Gparted05:57
beelii mean channel05:57
Sir_Brizzthx Healot05:57
nabzhey, i got gimp installed but i cant find it under the graphics bit on the menu :S any ideas?05:57
earthsoundHealot: but I have the kubuntu install CD05:57
earthsoundand gparted isn't on it05:58
Sir_Brizzqtparted05:58
windif i put something in tmp how long does it take to delete itself05:58
windor do i have to delete it myself?05:58
Healotyes, the desktop installer, or the alternate installed, btw, qtparted should be in it, earthsound05:58
Healotwind, everytime you restart the PC, /tmp will be cleared automagically05:58
djk_Healot: why does kubuntu use qtparted, it's crap compared to gparted05:59
earthsoundHealot: there are no programs beginning with q on the alternate install CD (v 6.06.1)05:59
Healotit's the same thing with different UI toolkit, duh05:59
windk coo05:59
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Healotthe mother back-end is parted << the same thing06:00
djk_Healot: qtparted hasn't been developed in almost 2 years.06:01
djk_Healot: why's the feature list on the gnu parted site then completely different compared to gparted?06:01
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djk_Healot: and the gnu parted site has just been updated recently..06:02
Healotask the qtparted coders?06:02
tkanyone familiar with Amarok and using scripts with it?06:03
djk_Healot: btw, parted isn't the backend06:04
Healotit is the backend06:04
Healothence, (qt)/(g)parted06:04
djk_that's just the name06:05
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earthsoundgonna fire up knoppix and see what havoc I can wreak06:05
djk_the backend is the actual fs-progs, ie e2fsprogs06:05
earthsoundI think I have an old knoppix 4.02 around somewhere...06:05
pappuaneed help with ubunti sound06:05
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crimsunpappua: what sort of help?06:07
pappuai am running into this issue flash is not able to output any sound.  please advise06:07
farouspappua: are you running another program that is using your sound card06:08
earthsoundHealot: the kubuntu alt install CD doesn't have qtparted, but knoppix does :D06:08
pappuanot at the same time06:08
farouspappua: running form ? which browser06:08
djk_btw, does 6.06 support reiser4?06:08
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pappuafirefox 1.5.0.606:09
farouspappua: close firefox06:09
Bearcatdjk_: is it stable enough to use?06:09
crimsunpappua: purportedly installing esound-clients is sufficient06:09
farousthen close all programs using the sound card06:09
djk_Bearcat: afaik, yes06:09
earthsound5GB should be enough for a root partition for kubuntu, yes?06:10
nabzyeh06:10
Bearcatdjk_: is performance better over 3?06:10
nabzi only got 4gb =] 06:10
pappuaok installing06:10
farouscrimsun: i thought the only way around it is through the wrapper alsa-oss06:10
crimsunfarous: no, that's the way that I recommend doing it, but there are a few ways06:11
pappuais there any thing i should do after installing esound-clients06:11
djk_Bearcat: according to what I've read it's okay06:11
crimsunpappua: restart Firefox and test a Flash applet06:11
farouscrimsun: ok thanx :)06:11
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pappuanot helping06:15
pappuai tried to open the cd( cd has software which requires flash) that is not working06:15
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pappuaread me says that the SW requires Flash 6.0.29.006:16
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farouspappua: do you have flash installed06:16
farousit is not installed by default06:16
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pappuayes I have flash installed06:17
pappuai downloaded from the website and I had installed in .mozilla/plugins directory06:17
pappuai can see the video but no sound06:17
farouspappua: lsof /dev/dsp06:18
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pappualsof /dev/dsp o/p is nothing06:19
pappuano putput on running lsof /dev/dsp06:19
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farouspappua: did you close all firefox instances after installing the package crimsun told you about06:21
pappuayes I closed all fire fox instances.  i will do it again to confirm06:22
farouspappua: if nothing using your sound i do not know why flash won't work06:22
farouspappua: lsof /dev/snd/06:22
earthsoundI partitioned the new SATA HD w/ qpparted. during the installation of kubuntu, I wanted to change the mount points of each partition, but it failed06:23
pappuayes i closed firefox again and it is not working still  lsof /dev/snd/ output is nothing06:23
farouspappua: you can test sound with flash on a net site just to make sure06:24
farousit might b that what you view is just not comp06:24
earthsoundnm...there must be a bug in this text mode partition utility. it said that it failed, but it changed the mount points anyway :|06:24
pappuaflash on the net works06:25
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farousah ok06:25
farousso it might be a new flash that you need. flash for linux is a little bit old06:25
pappuaflash i have is Shockwave Flash 7.0 r6306:26
djk_iirc the latest macromedia flash is 9..and macromedia-linux-flash is 706:26
pappuaabout:plugins confirmed this06:26
earthsoundapparently the installer is in a loop, if I try to select "Install the base system" it takes me to "Partition disks"06:26
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pappuai know for sure there is no issue with CD because it works great on WINDOZE06:28
farouspappua: ran out of ideas. perhaps others can help06:28
nalphaguys can i talk with other user in my network with microphone? what software i should use???06:28
earthsoundwhen I try to select either undo changes to partitions or finish partitioning... it just refreshes the screen06:28
farousnalpha: skype is quite good06:28
djk_farous: skype is crap06:28
farousdjk_: what are the alter?06:28
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djk_farous: skype support for linux is the worst i've seen so far06:29
pappuaok thanks for helping.  is there any one else who can help06:29
farousdjk_: the beta ver support alsa06:29
pappua the beta ver support alsa.  I am not sure what it means06:30
farousdjk_: yet again what are the alt. :)06:30
farouspappua: that you can run other programs that use the sound card without a prob06:30
pappuayes i can but with one problem.  let us say real player for the first time outpus no sound.  close it and open works great06:32
nalphahow to install it??? (skype)06:33
farous!skype > nalpha06:33
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pappuaany ideas06:36
djk_farous: for a lan i'd probably use teamspeak..for other uses i'd have to search a bit, there are better oss alternatives06:37
farouspappua: try asking in ubuntu channel06:37
farousdjk_: i found qnext which is java based06:37
farousyet not a lot are willing to try it06:37
farousit support audio video. and is platform independent06:38
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pappuaok thanks06:38
farousagain lot of window users are just more comf with skype :(06:38
Bearcatdoes anyone happen to know if i can call someone on skype with an opensip client?06:39
Bearcati realise skype is a proprietary sip06:39
farousdjk_: i think our diff in view is cause you are most prob admin and i am just a regular user :)06:40
djk_farous: i'm not an admin. http://www.openwengo.org/ is a better alternative06:42
farousdjk_: thanx will have a look at it :)06:42
djk_farous: you're welcome06:44
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farousdjk_: this is open source right. for i went to a page similar name but was closed source06:44
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farousyah will def switch am always for opensource thanx again06:45
djk_yea openwengo is oss. :)06:47
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bioticprois the new 6.06 installer cd udated with kde 3.5.3?06:49
bioticproupdated06:49
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footBearcat: thank for the help tonight. I will talk to you tomorrow night, if your on. I am going to bed07:03
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Dark_Oppressorive got twinview setup, but now the panel in KDE only hides when i place the cursor on the sides of the screen, as opposed to hiding whenever the cursor is taken off the panel07:13
Dark_Oppressoris there a way to fix this?07:13
Cornellius#kubuntu07:15
Cornelliuserr07:15
CornelliusWrong window07:15
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tkanyone familiar with Amarok and using scripts with it? Ii cant get the Simple XOSD to work for some reason despite loading what I thought it needed Python wise07:20
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c0rruptheello.. i think i broke my nvidia drivers need some help07:48
c0rruptwhen i try to start normally..07:48
c0rruptthe x server wont start07:49
c0rruptso i start in safe mode.. and when i try to startx its saying wrong version of the nvidia kernel module07:49
c0rruptso basically i want to completly remove all traces of the module07:49
c0rruptand reinstall07:49
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c0rruptbut i dont know how07:49
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c0rrupt/lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko is loaded i believe07:50
c0rruptand /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia/nvidiafb.ko and some others07:50
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gekko`c0rrupt: did you install the nvidia drivers through apt-get?07:52
c0rruptum07:53
c0rrupti sorta did07:53
c0rruptok the first thing i did07:53
c0rruptwas install it from the nvidia .run file07:53
c0rruptand it seemed to work perfectly07:53
c0rruptbut i rebooted, and it wouldnt boot normally07:53
bioticproHello, I am tryin to use a crt TV as a monitor temporarily, what are the best kde font settings and xorg settings for this?07:53
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c0rruptso i tried to install it with apt-get install nvidia-glx and stuff07:54
gekko`c0rrupt: there's a nvidia package in the ubuntu repository which should be prefered07:54
c0rruptwhich is what im on now07:54
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c0rruptya07:54
c0rruptso my question is07:54
c0rruptcan i remove the module that..07:54
c0rruptthe .run installed07:54
c0rruptb/c i dont see a way of uninstalling it07:54
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randres1982nadie habla spnanish07:54
farousc0rrupt: normally there will be an uninstall script07:55
c0rrupti guess this isnt normal then huh?07:55
farousc0rrupt: but if there is not you have to remove them man07:55
gekko`randres1982: #ubuntu-es07:55
c0rruptya.. whats t3h command07:55
farousc0rrupt: that is what you pay when you do nto use deb07:55
randres1982alguien me puede colaborar con configuracion de kubuntu07:55
farousc0rrupt: and by normally i ment you have to search for it07:55
c0rruptjust delete the modules?07:56
c0rruptlike /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko is loaded i believe07:56
farousc0rrupt: search first for the modules package you installed for nividia07:56
c0rrupt..?07:57
farousc0rrupt: remove it and use an open source driver07:57
c0rruptoh07:57
farousthen you can remove man07:57
c0rrupter.07:57
c0rruptlost me07:57
randres1982good nihg07:57
randres1982bye07:57
farousc0rrupt: if you removed manually files the apt have installed you risk corrupting your package manager07:57
c0rruptso07:57
c0rruptapt-get remove nividia-glx07:58
randres1982not ingles07:58
c0rruptnvidia*07:58
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c0rruptalright..07:59
c0rruptthats removed07:59
c0rruptwhat else o.007:59
faroussearch for the modules you suspect the script installed07:59
c0rrupthow do i remove them07:59
c0rruptwith modprobe?07:59
farousand hope for the best for it might have diverted some packages07:59
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c0rruptmodprobe yes or n08:00
c0rrupto08:00
farousc0rrupt: you got the idea remove and reinstall. sorry got to go have bad cold here08:01
c0rruptmodprobE!?08:01
farousc0rrupt: you have to phyically remove the files for they might be loaded later08:01
c0rruptk thanks08:01
c0rruptget betta s00n08:01
bioticpronight08:01
farousnight here too08:02
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patrick_Hey is there a big performance advatage of switchting to x86_64 if you have a 64-bit processor.08:07
patrick_I just installed the i686 because i thought it was easier to find packages08:08
patrick_#linux08:08
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superman007Can anyone help with my wireless? I cant seem to get it to work08:09
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superman0070000:06:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 4311 (rev 01)08:11
link_36pHey is there a big performance advatage of switchting to x86_64 if you have a 64-bit processor.08:11
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superman007thats what I get rrom lspci08:11
superman007from*08:12
superman007link_36p, I'm sure its not too big, if any08:12
link_36poh08:14
tklink_36p: I didnt notice a big difference... but others say they do08:17
tki went back to 32bit for the ease of using flash and other non 64bit software08:17
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zeredHi everybody08:52
zeredI've just changed my mandriva for a kubuntu. I guess my problems came from my home rights08:53
zeredI have no formatted my /home08:53
zereddo you think it's the beginning of the solution ?08:53
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SpAwNhas anyone used truecrypt?...im trying to find out if i can take a partion im not curently using(its like 5 gigs) and somehow make it all encrytped and if i add files to it..they to will be encrytped...08:54
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bigbill52ai have used true crypt in windows...09:08
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superman007How come there are only 2.4 kernels in my repos?09:20
superman007nvm I see09:21
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rikiohi cant figure out why but nothing will save to my pc from the internet09:37
rikiohit says it downloads and stores09:37
rikiohbut its not there09:37
rikiohand ive even tried downloading and using the open option isntead of save and when its done it dont open09:37
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BbettoHi09:43
Bbettohow can i view the cd icon in the desk?09:43
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Philip5Bbetto: yes09:46
wweaselHello. I'm here not regarding KDE persay, but a KDE App, and the people in #ubuntu told me it's more likely someone here could help. I use regular Ubuntu with KMess for MSN and Swiftfox as a browser.  Swiftfox is set to my default browser, but KMess still launches Firefox. Help appreciated.09:46
Philip5it will autoshow when a cd is mounted09:46
Bbettoi put a cd inside the pc, buy i can't see the icon in the desk09:47
Bbettowhy?09:47
bioticprohow do I play video files (avi) over samba share?  (video is one windows machine, want to play it with  kaffeine)09:47
Healot!info libxine-extracodecs09:49
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB09:49
Healot!samba09:49
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT09:49
wweaselDoes anyone here know how KMess decides what browser to launch09:50
bioticproI have all the codecs, and I have samba installed, as well as samba-xine09:50
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bioticproHealot: I get the following errors from kaffeine:09:51
bioticproHealot: No plugin found to handle this resource09:51
Healotconfigured the samba share yet?09:51
bioticproHealot: yes, I can see the movies, but the don't play09:51
bioticproxine: cannot find input plugin for MRL09:52
Healotbtw media format?09:52
bioticproxine: found input plugin : CIFS/SMB input plugin based on libsmbclient09:52
bioticproHealot: the movie is *.avi09:52
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glen_bioticpro: try kmplayer maybe?09:53
Healotwhat's the codec used?09:54
HealotOpenAVI can use any codecs nowadays09:54
bioticproHealot: xine: found demuxer plugin: AVI/RIFF demux plugin09:54
Healotms-avi?09:54
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Healotwmv/asf avi maybe09:55
bioticproI get same errors playing mpgs09:56
intelikeywithout alsatools how would one save sound settings ?09:56
bioticprothese videos play fine if I copy them over to my linux HD09:56
bioticprointelikey: kamix09:56
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intelikeywithout alsatools how would one save sound settings ?09:57
intelikeyi think kmix uses alsactl  no?09:57
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bioticprointelikey: kamix, not kmix09:57
intelikeyE: Couldn't find package kamix09:58
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bioticprohmm, maybe in universe/multiverse?09:58
intelikeymaybe not09:59
intelikey!info kamix09:59
ubotuPackage kamix does not exist in dapper09:59
intelikey!info kamix breezy10:00
ubotuPackage kamix does not exist in breezy10:00
bioticprohmmm, well, thats lame10:00
bioticproIm using PCLinuxOS at the moment :)10:00
intelikey!info kamix edgy10:00
ubotuPackage kamix does not exist in edgy10:00
bioticprofigured ubnut would have to have it10:00
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bioticpro!info aumix dapper10:01
ubotuaumix: Simple text-based mixer control program. In repository universe, is extra. Version 2.8-17 (dapper), package size 75 kB, installed size 440 kB10:01
Jack1does anyone know sth about sunychronization works with sony ericsson k800 and kontact?10:01
intelikeyi have aumix installed, and use it.  but it doesn't store the settings.10:01
bioticprointelikey: my bad, kamix is great... guess ya gotta settle for kmix10:01
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bioticprocan someone please help with playing avi video from a samba share?10:09
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Philip5bioticpro: add the extra codecs to xine10:12
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link_36pwhere are kernel headers kept in ubuntu?10:13
Philip5but you can't play wmv3 files yet... as far as i know10:13
bioticproPhilip5: I have the right codecs, the movie plays fine if I play it from linux HD, doesn't play from samba location though10:13
Philip5link_36p: you fetch the headers with apt10:13
Philip5bioticpro: try to open it from location10:14
Philip5haven't tried it... maybe it need some streaming and that depends on the media format10:14
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TheGateKeeperlink_36p: are you after build-essential ?10:15
link_36pNo im installing vmware player10:16
link_36pand it says it needs to compile a kernel module and wants to know where the header directory is.10:16
bioticprohow do you mount a samba share locally?10:17
intelikeyinstall   linux-headers-2.6.15-26-68610:18
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link_36pWhats the difference between i386 and i686?10:19
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Healoti686 kernels are optimized for Pentium 3 and above (the 80686s)10:24
link_36pso it doesnt matter if you have AMD?10:25
Healoti386 is compiled to run on any 80386 processor... 386 until the recent duel-core CPUs10:25
Healotthe question is does it matter to your needs10:26
link_36poh10:26
Healotif you are thinking of optimized kernel, you should use the appropriate kernel, not the generic i386 kernel10:26
Healotof course there are slight performance in using optimized kernels10:27
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ubuntuhello everyone10:37
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Silence79thats bettter10:39
HealotI wanna push around, and I will, and I will, I wanna take you for granted..10:40
Silence79just another spoke in the wheel10:40
klerfaytHealot: I don't notice performance drop then using i386 kernel instead of i686 on pentium m10:40
BbettoHi do you know a program to ripe cd's?10:41
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Healotbcause P m has speedstep enabled by default... and yeah i686 kernel have speedstep, thus it slows down the cpu speed accordingly -10:42
intelikeyripperx - a GTK-based audio CD ripper/encoder10:42
Bbettoanother one?10:42
Silence79so what advantages do i get by running linux?10:43
Silence79I'm a newb10:43
adnanmany10:43
HealotSilence79, what kind of advantages that you want?10:43
intelikeygrabcd-rip - rip and encode audio CDs - ripper10:44
intelikeygrip - GNOME-based CD-player/ripper/encoder10:44
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Silence79just wondering what I can do with linux....for instance can I get better performance outta my PC?10:44
Silence79if so how?10:45
Bbettothanks, what is the best in kde?10:45
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adnansecurity, stability, easy of use, free... what kind of performance?10:45
intelikeycrip - terminal-based ripper/encoder/tagger tool10:45
aliasfredSilence79: this question is not really answerable, you may want to simply try it, there are livecd to make it easy to try10:45
aliasfrednot answerable as it is not specific enougth10:46
Silence79I'm using the kumuntu free live cd10:46
Bbettocrip? but isn't graphic10:46
Silence79and I realize it is a very generalized question10:47
intelikeyBbetto two things;  1. best is subjective, it's based solely on opinion and not on fact.    2, apt-cache search/show  has more information about packages than you ever want to know.10:47
adnanbye10:47
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aliasfredBbetto: k3b does it i think10:51
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Bbettoin the kubuntu-es chanel all are sleep, alguien habla espaol aqui?10:53
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[nige] hi all10:54
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koshBbetto: sorry I don't speak spanish10:56
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HealotBbetto, listen to mamito, hablen ingles :)10:56
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[nige] Hi all10:57
[nige] I am having a problem with my ati card and dual monitors10:58
[nige] :(10:58
[nige] !ati10:58
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto10:58
koshhello10:58
koshI have two ati cards and 4 monitors but I don't use the binary ati driver10:58
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HealotI have one ATi card but now I found out ATi no longer exist :)10:59
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intelikeyhmmmm did you know that you can't cat a file in irc that only has one line.....10:59
HealotI can dog a file instead :011:00
koshI don't think I have ever tried to cat a file in irc11:00
koshI use a terminal program for that not irc :)11:01
intelikey/exec cat blah11:01
intelikeyecho -e '#!/bin/sh\n\napt-cache show $* \n' > S ;chmod 755 S11:01
intelikeyecho -e '#!/bin/sh\n\napt-cache search $* \n' > Q ;chmod 755 Q11:01
intelikey/exec -o cat blah   ^ outputs to the channel11:02
koshI still don't see why I would want to do that11:02
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intelikeyyou wouldn't     that's simple enough11:03
intelikeykill -9 -1      kills every thing that can be killed    but you wouldn't want to do that either.    i guess that means that that function is obsoleet and should be removed....11:04
intelikeyor maybe not....11:04
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intelikeytra bon chance11:06
koshkill -9 -1 is for when you are on a shared server and one of your processes has just gone nuts and you need to kill it now and hte system is so lagged that getting the pid will take too long since the admin will have executed you long before that point :)11:06
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intelikeykosh no that's what killall   is for11:07
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Healotkillall! kill all!11:07
aliasfredbe carefull in thinking you are smarter that unix designer :)11:08
koshkillall takes a pid or name as an argument11:08
klerfaytHealot: where did you get that info? pentium m freq. scaling works with i383kernel also11:08
intelikeykillall blah    kills blah + all blah's children    genicide for the process tree.11:08
koshkill -9 -1   works if you don't know the name of the process which just went nuts but you know that you own it11:10
koshI remember that was used a few times by students on the shared cs unix servers11:10
koshit would kill the compile no matter what it was that was causing the problem11:10
intelikeyoh you mean without root perms    yeah it don't do much there really.11:11
koshroot woudl not run that command11:11
kosha user would run it11:11
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koshit makes some sense for a user11:11
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intelikeyroot would run it   or a veriant called killall5  which only omits $PID & $PPID11:12
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intelikeydoes every time you shut down in fact11:13
aliasfredin anycase to remove it require authorization on the kernel, and im convinced none of the kernel dev will accept those arguements :)11:13
koshroot has not reason to run it, if the box is that hosed you better reboot it11:13
koshsince you will be killing critical processes even if they are not your parent11:14
intelikeykosh  this is not M$ reboot.   sorry11:14
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aliasfredhehe you guys are amazing :)11:14
intelikeycritical ?    like ?11:14
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koshintelikey: if you have killed init, the logd and all the other stuff you might as well have rebooted given how much time it will take to try and get the services back up and running again11:15
intelikeyinit can not be killed.    if you don't even know that.  this discussion is over.11:16
thomas__my gcc-compiler seems not to work. anyways the ./configure says "checking if c-compiler (gcc ) works ...... no". I have tried removing the gcc and installing again. what can be wrong? where to look?11:16
koshyou can kill it but it will try to auto restart11:16
intelikeyinit can not be killed.    if you don't even know that.  this discussion is over.11:16
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aliasfredthomas__: do 'gcc --version' in a terminal and see the reply11:17
thomas__it says "gcc (GCC) 4.0.3 (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5)" along with some copyright-things11:18
thomas__looks right to me11:18
aliasfredthomas__: ok so you got gcc installed and 'findable', now you have to find out why the ./configure fails to find it11:18
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intelikeykosh   just for your pece of mind.   if at any time init is killed, kernel panic     no if's and's or but's about it.11:18
aliasfredbut it is pretty weird11:18
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aliasfredconfigure and gcc version were launched under the same user ?11:19
aliasfredmaybe a diff in the PATH conf11:19
thomas__yes11:19
thomas__I just tried compiling a hello-world program. says it can't find stdio.h - something's pretty wrong!11:20
aliasfredoh maybe you simple dont have the libc header11:20
thomas__it doesn't seem as the configure is flawed in any way (btw, it's php5)11:20
aliasfred!build11:20
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)11:20
aliasfredlook at that11:21
aliasfredif after that helloworld fails to compile, there is an issue :)11:21
thomas__I'll check it out, thanks :)11:21
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elvstonehello.11:26
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elvstonethe link at http://kubuntu.org/documentation.php to http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/release-notes/C/ar01s01.html is a 404..11:26
elvstonewho do i bug about it?11:27
elvstonealso; is there any kubuntu specific release notes for 6.06.1?11:27
aliasfredsee #kubuntu-devel11:27
intelikeymaybe someone in #ubuntu  about the 40411:27
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elvstonealright.11:28
glen_hi - where should xine-lib be installed for use by amarok?11:29
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intelikey!info xine-lib11:31
ubotuPackage xine-lib does not exist in dapper11:31
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intelikeyhmmm11:31
intelikeyglen_ where got you that ?11:31
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Healotit's libxine11:32
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intelikey!info libxine11:33
ubotuPackage libxine does not exist in dapper11:33
intelikey?11:33
glen_intelikey: well, the folder's xine-lib11:33
tk!info amarok-xine-lib11:33
ubotuPackage amarok-xine-lib does not exist in dapper11:33
jarskaI have a problem with Installing java, Im a beginner so could u help me a bit?11:33
tkits something like that in adept11:33
fdoving!java > jarska11:34
tki just rebooted to windows for some stuff, otherwise I'd tellya exactly11:34
glen_tk: the repo version won't play flac11:34
Healot!find libxine11:34
ubotuFound: libxinerama-dev, libxinerama1, libxinerama1-dbg, libxine-extracodecs, libxine1c2 (and 2 others)11:34
intelikeyamarok-xine - xine engine for the amaroK audio player11:34
intelikeythat ^  ?11:34
Hobbseeyou usually want libxine-extracodecs11:34
Hobbseeglen_: ^11:35
Hobbseeohh...that..11:35
intelikeyi'm not sure what glen_ has got or what glen_ is trying to do with it....11:35
glen_intelikey: won't play flac -:( i'm trying to install a patched xine-lib11:36
thomas__aliasfred:  thanks for the help, it seems I was missing the build-essential package11:36
aliasfredthomas__: cool :)11:36
thomas__but a very nice site to refer to. very easily understandable for beginners :)11:36
tkglen_: ohh if you are going for flac, yah it doesnt, the latest version of amarok does I believe though11:36
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Hobbseefor edgy, at least11:37
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glen_tk: which version?11:37
Hobbseeglen_: 1.4.2beta111:37
tkglen_: let me reboot and see, I'm done with what I needed win for11:37
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glen_i have 1.4.111:37
intelikey_root you faker.  you're not root11:38
jarskaHey all! What have i done wrong while installing sun java, when it says that "Please free up the required disc space and try again."11:38
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_roothello11:38
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Shan_better?11:39
intelikey:)11:39
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Shan_i had to boot in the recovery mode11:39
Shan_so I am root right now11:39
Shan_lol11:39
Shan_can someone tell me how i can add repositories to adept?11:39
intelikeyoh then you are root....    don't irc as root if there is any way to keep form it.11:39
Healotcan I run xchat by being Administrator hohoho?11:40
BoSJoHi all. fairly new linux user tryuing to settle down with a distro, but wonders what the diffs. are on Ubuntu and Kubuntu? any good links to describe this?11:41
intelikeyShan_ copy that to /etc/apt  and get out of root before some script kiddy sees you.11:41
Shan_i know... but i havent used Kubuntu in ages and it wont boot normally11:41
Shan_lemme try again11:41
Shan_thanx mate11:41
aliasfredBoSJo: ubuntu run gnome desktop by default, while kubuntu run kde-desktop by default11:41
intelikeynp11:41
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aliasfredBoSJo: it is very simply to switch from ubuntu to kubuntu, or viceversa, once you installed one11:42
BoSJoaliasfred: is that basically all the diffs. to it?11:42
aliasfredsimple=simple11:42
aliasfredyes11:42
Shan_damn.. where does the file get saved?11:42
harmentalhi...does anybody know wich repo should be added in kubuntu to keep R up to date?11:42
intelikeykde-desktop ?    kde==kay desktop enviornment        so  kde-desktop == kay desktop enviroment desktop  ???11:43
BoSJoaliasfred: Ok thanks. ill go for Kubuntu as a start.11:43
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Shan_done11:43
Shan_brb11:43
aliasfredharmental: the ones by default are the one for that11:43
jarskahei, what should i do if konsole reports a problem like "please free up disc space and try again." while installing java?11:43
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aliasfredjarska: you should add space or free space :)11:43
Healotfree some space?11:43
jarskahow to?11:44
aliasfredaka delete unnecessary files11:44
jarskaI have free disc space11:44
tki guess it doesnt play flac for me11:44
aliasfredor install on a larger partition11:44
aliasfredjarska: how much ?11:44
jarskai have just installed linux11:44
tkahh wait, im not on the beta verison11:44
intelikeyjarska probably install it as root11:44
jarskai do11:44
intelikey!sudo11:44
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.11:44
harmentalaliasfred:  they are not updated11:44
BoSJoWhat is the default version number for Evolution in Ubuntu? (Dont wanne compile from cvs yet), and does it run just as well in Kubuntu (KDE)?11:45
aliasfredharmental: ?11:45
glen_tk: how should xine-lib (patched) be configured so that amarok will use it?11:45
aliasfred!info evolution11:45
ubotuevolution: The groupware suite. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 4586 kB, installed size 34184 kB11:45
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tkglen: I thought I had it working, but I guess I dont, so I dunno11:46
aliasfredBoSJo: i dunno about it running on kde, it will run but the 'aspect' of it is unknown to me11:46
glen_tk: ./configure --prefix=?11:46
BoSJoaliasfred: thanks, now i also know the Boot in here :-)11:46
nielslo everybody11:46
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tki only have a 1 CD that I ripped with FLAC to see the  difference, and i cant play, my guess would be to reconfig amarok with a path to the newer xine11:46
aliasfredBoSJo: :)11:47
harmentalaliasfred: the R version in the repos are2.2.1 from december 2005...the latest version of R is 2.3.1 from july 2006...11:47
nielscan sb tell me which version of the kubuntu kernel they use? cos i first had 2.6.15-23 and it updated to 2.6.15-26 but that doesn't work... it blocks while loading...11:47
glen_tk: thanks for your suggestion11:47
nielsdoes sb else has that same problem11:47
tkniels: I use -26,....11:47
aliasfredharmental: ah ok you have a software called R and the version packaged for ubuntu it not the last one11:47
nielstk have you got problems with that?11:48
aliasfredharmental: ok in this case you likely have to compile it yourself11:48
tkniels: nah works great11:48
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intelikeyniels rebuild the initramfs for the new version11:48
tktk@electron:~$ uname -a11:49
tkLinux electron 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux11:49
nielsi have that same version11:49
nielstk, do you have experience with updating kernels and deleting kernels and thing like that?11:49
tkniels11:49
harmentalaliasfred: thats it...but actually my problem is that im quite a newbie...so i have the repo address: http://cran.r-project.org/bin/linux/ubuntu/ but i dont know which lines should i add to my sources.list...11:49
nielsyes?11:49
tkniels: I 've dont it by hand before... but I just did a full upgrade from Adept11:49
tksorry, tapped enter on accident11:49
nielsnp:)11:49
intelikeysudo initramfs -o /boot/initramfs.img-2.6.15-26-386 2.6.15-26-386  (assumes 386 kernel)11:49
intelikeyand make sure that grub points to the new one.11:50
nielsk just forget that about the kernels but tk, can you help me another time(now i have problems with my music)11:50
tklol11:50
aliasfredharmental: oh good it is already packaged11:50
tkniels: whats your music problem?11:51
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tkohh crap, glen_ my music might work, I forgot to remount my USB drive11:51
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Shan_ahh11:51
Shan_better11:51
harmentalaliasfred: yep...but not updated in ubuntu original repos11:51
Shan_intelikey: so now what11:51
Shan_lol11:51
intelikeynow what?  which what?11:51
Shan_i copied the file11:52
intelikeyoh sudo apt-get update       close adept first.11:52
aliasfredharmental: so yes it is possible to add that directly in sources.list but i dunno the exact format11:52
nielstk, when I want to play some music (located on my hd so that isn't the problem) it just doesn't play11:52
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intelikeyShan_ when that finishes  you're set.11:52
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nielsamarok opens and when I push play then another time it doesn't play at all:(11:53
harmentali dont quite understand the use of deb, main, stable....and all those prefixes...11:53
harmentalanybody?11:53
aliasfredharmental: your next step is to ask 'i have an url of a apt repository and i would like to add it in the sources.list, what is the format of the line to add'11:53
krautmoin11:53
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jarskahow can i manage where to install a program?11:54
intelikeyharmental and the answer will be something like "deb http://<your.url> dapper <title of the repo> "11:55
harmentalintelikey: title of my repo??11:55
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intelikeyharmental yep11:56
tkniels: have you installed any codecs since you setup kubuntu?11:56
intelikeyharmental like  main    universe   backports   ...11:56
tkhmm why wont my ntfs mount now....11:56
intelikeyjarska ???   "<jarska> how can i manage where to install a program?"  what you talking about willis ?11:57
harmentalintelikey: where do i find that?11:57
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aliasfredharmental: it is the url you shown me11:57
intelikeyharmental what's the url ?11:57
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nielsjes i did tk but i think that doesn't work11:57
nielscan you tell me what codecs especially i have to install11:57
tkniels: what did you installed?11:57
niels(with adept, or synaptic, or konsole,...11:58
jarskaintelikey , I have no idea how to add programs or do anything. :D11:58
nielsi installed in konsolesudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg11:58
intelikey!adept11:58
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto11:58
intelikeyjarska ^   read that11:58
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jarskaintelikey , ok ill try ^^11:59
tkniels: the package you need is from universe/multiverse11:59
tkniels: i msg'd you a link that explains what you need to do12:01
nielsk12:01
nielsbut i think i have the link...12:01
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nielswhen i try to download those packages (ugly-multiverse and bad-multiverse i think) they say that it isn't available12:02
nielsneither in konsole, neither in adept12:02
harmentalintelikey: maybe this will help....this is what iv efound in a release file:12:03
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TheGateKeeperniels: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories12:03
harmentalLabel: CTS's R backport for Ubuntu/dapper12:03
jarskaintelikey , what if the programlist doesn't include programs that im looking for?12:03
harmentalSuite: stable12:03
harmentalCodename: dapper12:03
harmentalVersion: 6.0612:03
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harmentalComponents: main12:04
intelikeyjarska you enable other repos12:04
intelikey!repos12:04
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource12:04
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protechi!12:05
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intelikeyharmental looks like all standard stuff there    what is your issue exactly ?     you do know that you can copy and paste that don't you?12:06
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intelikeyi don't mean paste into irc....  i mean paste into kate   then save as  sources.list12:06
harmentalintelikey: i dont know which title should i add...i've tried dapper main; main; every possible combination but either it is malformed or doesnt find the package...12:08
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aliasfredharmental: be sure to do 'apt-get update' after you modified the sources.list, it will tell apt to load the package list from the repositories12:09
harmentalaliasfred: I know that...12:10
apuhow can i save a webpage, with all of that links12:10
harmentalthat is when it fails...12:10
apu?12:10
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aliasfredok12:11
tkglen_: yah after remounting my drives my version doesnt work with the right xine engine either12:11
intelikeydeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse12:11
intelikeydeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse12:11
intelikeydeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse12:11
intelikeyharmental and anyone else updating their sources.list  ^12:12
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harmentalintelikey: i know how to add standard repos from ubuntu.com....what i want to do is add a particular repo that has a precompiled version for ubuntu of the soft im interested in ...(http://cran.r-project.org/bin/linux/ubuntu/)...take a look and you'll see...12:13
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intelikeyharmental looks like a dapper-backports main    to me12:15
glen_tk: yeah, this bug is documented12:16
harmentalintelikey: ill try that and let you know thx!12:16
edylieanyone installed flash8 on konquerer?12:16
intelikeyharmental http://cran.r-project.org/bin/linux/ubuntu/dapper/Release12:16
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nielsthe problems still exists, my music won't play12:18
harmentalintelikey: using this line deb http://cran.r-project.org/bin/linux/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main12:18
harmentali get this error: Failed to fetch http://cran.r-project.org/bin/linux/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found12:18
harmentalintelikey: the problem is that the package is directly under the ubuntu folder...12:19
aliasfredharmental: if you have toomuch trouble setting this up, you could download all the package by hand and install them from your local disk12:19
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harmentalaliasfred: i know but i would like to keep it automatically updated along with the rest of my packages....(one of the things i love about linux!)12:20
aliasfredso keep trying :)12:20
harmentaland it shouldnt be that hard....:o(12:21
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aliasfredanother possibility is to ask the people who have setup this repository for the line to add12:21
aliasfredif they are setup the repository they surely know how to include it in the soruces.list12:22
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aliasfredmaybe there is a wiki or a mailing list12:22
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Shan_whew12:23
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Shan_ok.. how do I get my Kubuntu to see my sata hdd?12:25
intelikeyharmental that repository is not usable with a standard *bunt apt configuration.   the database files are not in a standard location.12:26
Shan_anyone?12:26
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intelikeyand yes i agree with your former complaint.12:26
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intelikeyShan_ maybe sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/blah ?12:27
glen_Shan_: is your controller card supported?12:27
harmentalintelikey: that i understood...so there is no way to add that repo to my sources.list?12:28
Shan_glen_: how do I check?12:28
Shan_intelikey: when I do a mount command it doesnt even show me my sata hdd12:28
intelikeyShan_ what did mount say ?12:28
aliasfredShan_: maybe because it is not mounted :)12:29
Shan_lol aliasfred possible12:29
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aliasfredShan_: you can try qparted to see if linux does find the harddisk first12:29
aliasfredShan_: then to mount it ? :)12:29
Shan_i'm having serious trouble here.. cause it wont even show me the other directories on THIS hdd12:29
Shan_whats the command to see all the storage media?12:30
glen_Shan_: try qtparted12:30
intelikeyyeah if you ran mount alone  i don't expect it to show.   but if you did what i said ^ up there i expect either an error message or you need to look in /media/blah12:30
intelikeysudo fdisk -l12:31
Shan_ahh yes12:31
Shan_fdisk12:31
Shan_*doh*12:31
Shan_still wont show me sda12:31
Shan_just shows hda12:31
Shan_erm12:31
Shan_hdd12:31
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intelikeyoh i'mm lagging....   i'll step out.12:31
intelikeyno not fdisk     sudo fdisk -l12:31
glen_Shan_: try lspci and see if the controller shows up12:32
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Shan_hehe yeah i just had a blonde moment there12:32
Horn37bonjour tout le monde, y a t'il des gens qui connaisse bien xine?12:33
aliasfred!fr12:33
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:33
Shan_glen_: ISA bridge?12:33
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glen_no, should say serial ata storage controllers i think12:34
glen_Shan_: i take it it's an onboard controller?12:34
Shan_yeah12:34
glen_Shan_: which mobo?12:35
Shan_as in I plug the data cable directly on the mo bo12:35
opsidaohip12:35
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Shan_A8V-MX ASUS12:35
glen_Shan_: http://www.google.ie/search?hl=en&q=A8V-MX+ASUS+linux+compatible+sata&btnG=Google+Search&meta=12:36
Shan_:/12:37
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glen_Shan_: i had aproblem with the sata controller on an ECS mobo. got sick of it and just bought a pci sata controller and every linux distro works with it. only cost 2512:38
glen_Shan_: well 29 : http://komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=11818112:39
Shan_oh12:39
Shan_sounds like the only solution then12:40
Shan_thats pathetic tho12:40
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glen_Shan_: it's annoying, but sometimes the onboard controllers have flaky/non-compliant chipsets12:41
intelikeyprobably not the only solution.  linux supports more hardware than any other OS in the world.12:41
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glen_intelikey: true, but cold comfort to him12:42
Shan_didnt have any trouble using the sata on XP12:43
Shan_:/12:43
Shan_anyways forget the sata.. i alreayd dual boot but how come I dont see the other drives on this HDD>12:43
glen_Shan_: have you mounted them?12:43
nielsguys, i'm really turning crazy12:44
nielsmy music won't play:(12:44
Shan_i'm trying12:44
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Shan_but it gives me errors12:44
intelikeyother drives on this hdd ???12:44
intelikeypartitions12:44
Shan_sorry yeah partitions12:44
intelikeywhat error?12:44
Shan_/dev/hdd5            1252        1309      465853+  82  Linux swap / Solaris12:44
Shan_thats what I see12:45
glen_Shan_: can't mount swap partition12:45
Shan_so when I try to mount hdd5 it says12:45
Shan_hmm12:45
Shan_how bout this one?12:45
Shan_/dev/hdd2            1252        1309      465885    5  Extended12:45
intelikeythat's mounted as swap12:46
intelikeythat's swap12:46
Shan_hmmm12:46
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Shan_so then i dont see anyting else12:46
Shan_which is weird12:46
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glen_Shan_: mkdir test      then mount -t <filesystem type>  /dev/hdd2 test12:47
intelikeyShan_ hda2 is the extended partition hda5 is the logical dirve in the extended partition   and it's formated as swap     free    will confirm it's being used.12:48
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Shan_oh12:48
harmentalintelikey and aliasfred: i got it running! the line should have been deb http://cran.cict.fr/bin/linux/ubuntu dapper/12:49
Shan_hda or hdd?12:49
harmentalusing the standard debian format12:49
aliasfredharmental: excelent :)12:49
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intelikeyglen_ that won't mount unless the partition tabel is screwed and there is a filesystem writen dirrectly to an extenede partition    (not likely)12:49
glen_intelikey: i just noticed that it was extended12:50
intelikeyharmental interesting i tested that ....   err without the trailing /12:50
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Shan_intelikey: says wrong fs type for all vfat ntfs ext2 and ext312:50
Shan_the thing is why cant I see the partitions?12:50
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harmentalintelikey: ya see..it was not that "trivial".... ;op12:51
intelikeyShan_ see it where ?12:51
Shan_in fdisk12:51
Shan_sudo fdisk -l i.e.12:52
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intelikeyShan_ pastebin the output of  fdisk -l /dev/hda12:53
Shan_k12:53
intelikeyor is that  hdd12:53
Shan_hdd12:53
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Shan_Cannot open /dev/hdd12:54
Shan_lol12:54
Shan_wtf12:54
glen_Shan_: pastebin the output of 'mount' while you're at it12:54
Shan_k12:54
glen_Shan_: put sudo before fdisk12:54
Shan_k12:55
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Shan_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2037212:55
Shan_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2037412:56
Shan_:/12:56
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Shan_well?12:59
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glen_Shan_: there's nothing else to see: you have your root partition on /dev/hdd1 and a swap partition12:59
Shan_this is a 40 gb hdd12:59
Shan_i just see 10 gb12:59
Shan_so the other 30 gb is unformatted is what you are saying?12:59
intelikeythere is nothing special about that Shan_  you have one usable partition on hdd and it's mounted as /   the system root   the other partition is the swap space.01:00
glen_Shan_: paste df -T -h01:00
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Shan_ok01:01
Shan_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2037501:02
Shan_grrr01:03
Shan_strange01:04
Shan_:/01:04
intelikeyShan_ you have free space on the disk...   sudo cfdisk /dev/hdd01:05
intelikeysee if it shows free space ?01:05
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Shan_yup01:07
Shan_shows bout 30 gb free space01:07
Shan_how do I put it to use/01:07
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intelikeyShan_ you are in the partition too01:07
intelikeyuse it.01:07
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intelikeyi think i'm finished here for the day.01:08
mondon01:08
Shan_ok..01:09
Shan_sweet01:09
Shan_need to reboot01:10
Shan_brb01:10
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ninHerhola a tod@s01:12
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zealothey01:12
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zealot_hey01:13
zealot_:)01:13
Philip5zealot_: hehe, did it help?01:13
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Ash-Foxklipper appears to be broken, even though I have 'synchronise contents of the clipboard and selection' selected, it still doesn't.01:13
zealot_Philip5: tryingen the client Konvensation! so just trying :)01:13
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mondohi to all - ciao a tutti01:14
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zealot_but i dont like it! bye01:14
Philip5zealot_: aha01:14
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_kalmWow... Its quiet01:22
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Jack1hi01:24
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Jack1how can i get an leo -dictionary plugin for konqueror?01:24
Jack1like google search?01:24
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_kalmId love to help but im not using my comp.01:26
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Shan_whew01:27
ubuntucan anyone tell me how reliable resizing hfsplus partitions with gparted is? i want to install kubuntu on my powerbook g4, though im notsure if thats safe01:27
ninHerJack1: leo ?01:27
ubuntuJack1: you can edit the search shortcuts01:27
ubuntuninHer: dict.leo.org01:28
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CVirushow can I manage the startup services ?01:28
ubuntuJack1: settings - configure konqueror - web shortcuts01:28
Shan_ok.. what fs type is a Linux partition?01:28
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JucatoCVirus: startup services or startup programs? (services are the daemons/process running in the background)01:28
ubuntuShan_: could be anything01:28
Shan_i tried ext2 and ext301:29
Shan_says wrong fs type01:29
ninHerJack1: i prefer use a console, and dict whatever01:29
ubuntuShan_: ext3 most likely, but xfs, reiserfs, etc. could all be possible01:29
CVirusJucato: services01:29
ubuntuShan_: -t auto ?01:29
JucatoSystem Settings > System Services (in the Administration group)01:29
Shan_says I must specif01:29
Shan_specify01:29
CVirusJucato: a command line tool01:29
Jucatooh...01:29
Jack1<ninHer>whats the konsole command then?01:30
Jucatothat I wouldn't know. you didn't mention it :-D01:30
Shan_i just created two logical volumes using cfdisk01:30
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Jack1sometimes graphical is easier <ninHer>01:30
Shan_ubuntu: i just created two logical volumes using cfdisk01:30
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ninHerJack1: i don't think so01:30
ubuntuShan_: you need to create a filesystem on them first01:30
Jucatoto each, his own. different strokes for different folks...01:30
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Shan_ubuntu:  how?01:31
ubuntuShan_: the logcal volumes (i assume you mean partitions and not LVM volumes) are just the partitions01:31
ninHerJack1: open a console and then you write: dict wordtofindout01:31
ubuntuShan_: well make sure you know what you're doing first =)01:31
ubuntuShan_: know the device names01:31
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ubuntuShan_: then mke2fs -j /dev/foo will create an ext3 filesystem on it (and most likely annihilate every bit of fs data on it)01:32
ubuntuShan_: ext3 = ext2 + journaling, that's why you use mke2fs (and add -j for journaling)01:32
ubuntuShan_: if you do this on the wrong device, you may not like the results though =)01:32
Shan_ubuntu hehe i know.. i know the device names01:33
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Shan_aight its doing it lol01:33
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Shan_is it waiting for an input from me when it says "Creating Journal"?01:34
Shan_ok its done01:35
Shan_lol01:35
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ubuntuShan_: now you should be able to mount it01:35
ElectrolyteTime to try out installing Kubuntu once more, hopefully I have everything set.01:35
Shan_ok01:36
pitukaHi there! I'm sitting on a Dell Laptop and I'm searching for a way to auto connect my Wireless Internet connection. Couldn't find a way to do it with the "Wireless Assistant". Establishing manually works fine (with root pass). Any Ideas?01:36
Electrolytetrappist you there?01:36
Shan_hmm01:37
pitukaI'm not sittin "on" it btw :P01:37
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itachi@pituka01:39
itachiwhat's your distro?01:39
mrayKubuntu of course :)01:39
itachiah sorry wrong question01:39
mrayand i updated yesterday01:39
itachiI've read the issue reg: ras01:40
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itachiin the ubuntu forums01:40
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itachii mean 803.1101:40
mraywhat do you mean with "reg: ras" ?01:40
itachi803.1101:41
itachiI manually configured mine there01:41
itachitry typing lspci01:41
mraywell, isn't that more a KDE issue?01:41
itachiah no01:41
itachithe wireless thingy?01:41
itachiI guess not01:41
mraythe wireless assistant thingy01:41
itachinot pretty sure01:42
grotheskSwitching to fullscreen in kaffeine completely crashes my machine running 'via' drivers. What can I do about it?01:42
itachidid it work in gnome?01:42
mrayit is the laptop of my girlfriend - and i want to avoid messing with stuff i don't know.01:42
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itachitry typing lspci01:42
itachiif the wireless device shows in there01:42
mray@grotesk: use mplayer or VLC i made better experience with them.01:42
itachithen there's no problem01:42
itachiif it shows Unknown Device01:43
itachishucks01:43
itachithat's the problem01:43
mrayno unknown devices.01:44
mrayas i said: it works pretty fine if i just KLICK once manually on the connection in the wireless assistant!01:44
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mrayi fire up the assustant, and there appears a list of available networks - i choose the right one - click -wait -all is ok.01:45
mrayso i'm already _almost_ happy :)01:45
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mraybut it is inconvenient - because i need to enter the sudo pass every time - and my girlfriend will prefer windows as long as that annoyance is there.01:46
itachiah that's the problem01:46
itachi=)01:46
mrayso i believe very strongly kubuntu made a great job in making work all the hardware.01:47
mraybut there is nowhere any button that says something like : "please try to connect to that connection on startup"01:48
mrayat least i didn't find any :(01:48
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ubuntuhello01:48
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joakohola..........im trying to install d new kde but it say will also need the dapper-updates reponsitory enabled. how can i do this??01:49
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mray@joako: start adept.01:51
mraythen go to view -> manage repositories.01:52
mrayi'm not a kubuntu or linux guru btw.01:52
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joakook thanx01:52
mraythe grayed out lines are deactivated.01:52
grotheskNeither mplayer nor vlc will play a DVD.01:53
mrayrightklick on them to activate them01:53
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joakothanx i01:53
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mray@grotesk: that is a problem of the proprietary codec.01:54
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asimonjoako: What mray told you is also illustrated here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu01:54
mrayyou will have to download an ILLEGAL package of the DVD codec afaik.01:54
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mraythe DVD consortium is a group of $-addicted commercialists. you are forced to pay for the codec to watch a DVD. unbelievable but that's the way it is.01:55
grotheskmray: No. It does play DVD. But X keeps crashing when switching to fullscreen.01:58
grotheskThat is in kaffeine/xine, vlc and mplayer.01:58
grotheskSo there is a problem with X, not with codecs.01:59
asimongrothesk: X crashed when going fullscreen with all of these players? Then I would suppose that the bug lies not in the players but maybe in the X driver for your graphics card.01:59
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mrayis there a way to establish an auto-connection to a wireless connection in kubuntu?02:01
thorhello there all02:02
mrayhi02:02
grotheskasimon: That's what I think too.02:02
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thorI would like some help if thats posable02:02
grotheskBut how can I narrow it down?02:02
mraygrotesk: did you install your ati or nvidia drivers or something like that?02:02
thormy kubuntu system at work has stoped my keyboard from working02:02
asimongrothesk: You don't use Xgl, do you? If yes, that could be the cause, it's known to be a little bit unstable.02:02
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grotheskNo. no XGL here.02:03
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thorI can log into kdm but after I log in my keyboard is history02:03
grotheskasimon: I even can't ssh into the box when it crashed. Completely frozen.02:03
ElectrolyteAnyone able to help me get my sound card working? I've got 2 but Kubuntu is using my Yamaha DS-XG card by default not my Audigy 2 ZS.02:03
ElectrolyteI have no idea how to get kubuntu to switch cards.02:04
thori did install my nvidia drivers yes and I have twin view on but I dont knkow if thats the problim becouse if I log in as root it works fine02:04
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asimongrothesk: you could have a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log and Xorg.0.log.old, maybe there are some error messages at the end.02:04
grotheskNo. nothing in there. Did already check that.02:04
mraythor: i have no idea. but akeyboard shouldn't be such a har component to detect and use.02:05
grotheskSo I'll switch back to 'vesa' driver. :-(02:05
mraythor: what i want to say is: "strange..."02:05
alteratothor: I had the same problem this week when installing kubuntu for the first time02:06
mraygrotesk: maybe re-install your drivers?02:06
alteratoin the end getting rid of kwallet solved it for me02:06
ElectrolyteNobody knows how to get Kubuntu to switch sound cards then?02:07
mrayElectrolyte: where did you look so far?02:07
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ElectrolyteEr, only the audio system settings and the volume control - I don't know where else to look.02:07
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ElectrolyteI need to use the Audigy 2 ZS since it supports hardware buffers (and I got that to work in SuSE 10)02:09
mraythat's where i would have looked, too - but i'm not a linux specialist anyway :P02:09
grotheskmray: It is a fresh installation.02:09
Electrolytelol okay02:09
mrayElectrolyte: you _could_ de-activate one in the bios right?02:10
ElectrolyteNo, they're both PCI cards.02:10
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mraygrotesk: so you use the drivers that come with kubuntu?02:10
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ElectrolyteI'd have to end up removing it, but I use the Yamaha DS-XG's MIDI Synthesizer in Windows.02:10
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mraygrothesk: maybe you should try some official drivers from the manufacturer02:10
mrayElectrolyte: that is a problem ^^02:11
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mrayElectrolyte: i wonder wether kde or kubuntu is able to handle two cards at all.02:12
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mrayElectrolyte: did you try different soundsystems?02:13
ElectrolyteNo, I have to use ALSA for hardware buffers on the Audigy.02:13
ElectrolyteAnd I think KDE does support multiple cards as I see them in the volume control.02:13
ElectrolyteAs a little pop-down menu.02:13
mrayElectrolyte: hm. that's odd. i'm running out of ideas, too. :) i came here to search for help myself :P i think this channel lacks some gurus!02:14
administradorAnybody know's to modify a file: menu.Ist, to put WindowsXP default booting02:14
asimonElectrolyte: there are some short instructions for "Configuring default soundcards / stopping multiple soundcards from switching" at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449 , maybe they will help. But you have to edit files with an editor, no gui for that.02:14
alteratoElectrolyte: are you having no system sounds at all and no sounds in apps also? Things like mplayer and xine can be configured to use a specific device02:15
glen_administrador: just move it to the top of the list02:15
ElectrolyteNo system sounds, not tried a program that can use mutliple cards yet.02:15
administradorHow?? :|02:15
administradorI dont understand02:16
ElectrolyteCan't test audio files either on Xine since Kubuntu can't read my NTFS drives :(02:17
mrayadministrador: i think you will have to edit some text files manually. inside that textfiles you will have to write some entries just _above_ others02:17
thorhelp please02:17
glen_administrador: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst   then move the xp entry to the top of the list02:17
aliasfredadministrador: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#default use the 'default' command in menu.lst02:17
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mraythor: i believe you have to repeat yourself in a channel if you want to have luck.02:18
mray:P02:18
mrayi bet nobody in here remembers why i came in here.02:19
mrayi won't get any help if i _just_ ask for it.02:19
mrayjust a hint ;)02:19
administradorbut i already try to edit /boot/grub/menu.Ist and next I can't save02:20
glen_administrador: did you open with sudo?02:20
DHGEadministrador: do it as admi... -> root02:20
administradorI Use Kubuntu02:20
aliasfredAdmistrador, edit it with kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst02:20
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administradorlast version02:20
mrayadministrador: you know what "root" means?02:21
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administradoryes02:21
administradorbut i can't enter by root02:21
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aliasfredAdmistrador, edit it with kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst02:21
mrayif you can't save - it is because you have no root rights.02:21
administradoryes02:22
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administradore knoe02:22
administradorwaht sudo02:22
mrayadministrador: you need to start an application with root rights. no need to log in extra as root.02:22
administradorOk02:22
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glen_administrador: use aliasfred's command above02:23
administradorbut, when i installed Kubuntu I configuring to Admin02:23
mrayadministrador: starting an application with "sudo" infront of its konsole -line will try to start that very application as root.02:23
aliasfredsometime it is hard to see somebody keeping asking the same question, when you already gave him the answer :)02:23
XVampireXI need help installing ktorrent on kubuntu02:23
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ElectrolyteHow do I writeout a file that I'm editing in console?02:23
ElectrolyteI forgot the keyboard command :E02:23
XVampireXserge@serge-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg -i ktorrent-2.0-i386.deb02:23
DHGEXVampireX: what does not work?02:23
administradorbut I can't save, but I'm Admin02:23
XVampireX(Reading database ... 163468 files and directories currently installed.)02:23
XVampireXUnpacking ktorrent-2.0 (from ktorrent-2.0-i386.deb) ...02:23
XVampireXdpkg: error processing ktorrent-2.0-i386.deb (--install):02:23
XVampireX trying to overwrite `/usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-bittorrent.desktop', which is also in package kdelibs-data02:23
XVampireXErrors were encountered while processing:02:23
XVampireX ktorrent-2.0-i386.deb02:23
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aubergineIs Kubuntu based on Debian?02:24
XVampireXYes02:24
mrayadministrador: i doubt that.02:24
aliasfredaubergine: yes02:24
auberginenice02:24
HobbseeXVampireX: ack.  current edgy?02:24
DHGEXVampireX: If U want it badly look at the "force" options man dpkg02:24
mrayadministrador: maybe you just named your user "Administrador" ? ;)02:24
aliasfredXVampireX: it is a bug in the packaging, you may try some --force option in dpkg as a workaround02:24
XVampireXHobbsee: Nope, dapper02:24
HobbseeXVampireX: user --force-overwrite02:24
XVampireXoh02:24
HobbseeXVampireX: how did ktorrent-2.0 make it to dapper?02:25
XVampireXNo02:25
XVampireXManually installing it02:25
administradorHow to enter in root mode02:25
Hobbseeoh, well.  it's not my problem then :P02:25
XVampireXCheck the first package02:25
Hobbseesudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/ktorrent*.deb02:25
aliasfredadministrador: man i gave you the command twice already :)02:25
XVampireXThanks02:25
mrayAdministrator: you know what a console is?02:26
ElectrolyteBrb, need to login & logout for this to take effect.02:26
XVampireXthat worked02:26
glen_administrador: enter this command now: kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst02:26
mrayadministrador: you know what a console is?02:26
HobbseeXVampireX: just be careful what you force overwrite though.  and of course it worked :P02:26
XVampireXyup02:26
administradorI know!!02:26
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administradorbut appears that Messange:   sudo: gedit: command not found02:26
administradorin my console02:26
mrayok then try to enter what the people in here are suggesting you to enter. if something does not work - let us know what kubuntu is saying.02:27
aliasfredadministrador: the command to enter has been given 3 times to you... why dont you type it ?02:27
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administradorWhen I put this: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst02:28
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administradorappears that Messange:   sudo: gedit: command not found02:28
aliasfredman :)02:28
aliasfredadministrador: the command to enter has been given 3 times to you... why dont you type it ?02:28
administrador3 times02:28
djclue917administrador: there is no gedit in Kubuntu by default. Just use Kate.02:29
mrayadministrador: enter this in caonsole: "kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst"02:29
djclue917administrador: K Menu -> Run Command...02:29
djclue917administrador: "kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst"02:29
glen_that's 4 times now -:)02:29
aliasfred5 by my count :)02:29
djclue917glen_: make that 5. :)02:29
thormy keyboard doesn't work02:30
thormy keyboard doesn't work02:30
thormy keyboard doesn't work02:30
thormy keyboard doesn't work02:30
glen_we won't quibble02:30
mraythen how could you type that? :)02:30
thorhow can I  fix it02:30
thorhow can I  fix it02:30
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thorhow can I  fix it02:30
alteratothor: I suggested eariler that the same problem for me was solved by disabling kdewallet02:30
thormy moouse works02:30
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thorI dont have kwallet at work02:30
DHGEthor: unhook the last 3 keyboards ;-)02:30
mrayare you SHURE it is not hardware defect?02:30
administradorI already say that I can edit the file in Kate, but I can't save itg02:30
administradorI already say that I can edit the file in Kate, but I can't save it02:30
glen_definitely wasn't 302:31
thorI an chatting from how where my kubuntu is grafting niclyu02:31
djclue917administrador: that's why you need kdesu or sudo.02:31
aliasfredthor: well it works enought for you to flood :) please stop. try to reboot to reenable your keyboard02:31
thorI did reboot02:31
djclue917administrador: just input this command: "kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst"02:31
thorit worked in the kdm then after login no keyboard02:31
thorso I loged into console and that worked fine02:31
djclue917administrador: put it in the Run dialog.02:31
aliasfredthor, you type quite a lot for a non working keyboard :)02:31
thorthis confused me02:32
aliasfredthor: and please dont flood anymore02:32
djclue917administrador: or just input this in the terminal: "sudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst"02:32
thorso I loged in su +password and did a startx02:32
mraythor: honestly ihave no idea what to do other than trying to re-install.02:32
thorso I could get kde in root mode02:32
aliasfreddjclue917: he has to use kdesu and not sudo02:32
djclue917aliasfred: he can use sudo.02:32
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djclue917aliasfred: from the terminal that is...02:32
DHGEthor: there might be something wrong in your xorg.conf then02:32
aliasfreddjclue917: nope as X wont allow it. xhaost reight managmeent02:33
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thorI restored form a working backup and it didn't change anything02:33
ElectrolyteThis is getting rediculous.02:33
djclue917aliasfred: X would allow it AFAIK. i wouldn't have said it if it won't work.02:33
ElectrolyteStill no sound, and now my mouse doesn't work.02:33
DHGElook at the log-files in /var/log02:33
djclue917aliasfred: it works in my machine.02:33
administradorOk, now I can save it, Thanks: djclue91702:33
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aliasfreddjclue917: in this case it is a big security hole in your configuration :)02:34
aliasfredhue ?02:34
thorwhy does my keyboard work in root02:34
aliasfredsudo does X right now ?02:34
djclue917administrador: that command was like given to you 6 times already.02:34
thorI realy am getting totaly and utterly fustrated02:34
ElectrolyteNow KDE thinks I have only one soundcard when I have 2, I even made sure 2 were written to the sodding file.02:34
administradoryes02:34
ElectrolyteAnd my mouse doesn't work either.02:34
administradornow02:35
djclue917aliasfred: then there's a big security hole in the default X config?02:35
administradorWhat I edit in this file02:35
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administradorto put WindowsXP to default boot02:35
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bohdyZdravicko, je tu nekdo schopny a ochotny poradit, jak nastavit touchpad? :)02:36
thorthere are so many admins02:36
aliasfreddjclue917: well this may means 2 things, either your sudo have been recently modified to handle the xhost right, or your default xhost allow any user connected to your box to read/write anything as if it was you. (aka a big security hol)02:36
ElectrolyteWho was the one who gave me that link to sorting out multiple sound cards?02:36
aliasfreddjclue917: so i hope it is the first :)02:36
playtime3what is the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu02:36
mraythor: i'm feeling with you. i hate that. if something does not work so badly - i chose to try a plain re-install - if i still need to try out 10000 and it still does not work - i waited a year and had a look at another distribution :P02:37
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DHGEplaytime3: k02:37
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XVampireXplaytime3: Gnome and KDE02:37
XVampireXAnd their relative packages02:37
aliasfredElectrolyte: on those very specific questions, you may have more chances to get help on #alsa02:37
mrayplaytime3: ubuntu uses GNOME kubuntu uses KDE as desktop environment.02:37
playtime3which one is better?02:37
thordoes any one know of a channel that can actualy help me02:37
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playtime3GNOME or KDE?02:37
DHGEkubuntu! ask in the OTHER channel...02:38
mrayplaytime3: you are in a KUBUNTU channel ;)02:38
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djclue917aliasfred: well, the thing is that I haven't modified sudo nor X.02:38
aliasfredplaytime3: and it is very easy to switch between them, e.g. you install ubuntu you can trivially transform it in kubuntu, and vice versa02:38
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playtime3i dont know, i connected and it takes me to this channel02:38
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archangel_I need some help folks02:38
administradorWhat I modify concretelly in file menu.Ist to put windowsxp to default boot02:39
aliasfreddjclue917: so this mean the behaviour on your box is the default one, so i REALLY hopes this is the first possibilities :)02:39
aliasfreddjclue917: my surprise is that this behaviour is not the one on my kubuntu which is a 6.0602:39
djclue917aliasfred: i doubt that it's a security hole. this was the default behavior of kubuntu since hoary. if that behavior was caused by a security hole, then that would've been fixed a long time ago...02:40
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Admiral_Chicagoarchangel_, ask then02:40
archangel_I need help with a laptop that wont boot02:40
aliasfreddjclue917: you mean that you did 'sudo kate' and it works since a long time ?02:40
archangel_gives errors02:40
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aliasfreddjclue917: well i havent modified X or sudo either and it doesnt here :)02:41
djclue917aliasfred: yeah. i've tried that since hoary.02:41
Admiral_Chicagoarchangel_, what kind of errors, what do they say?02:41
mrayarchangel_: if you start giving usable information about your problem your chances will be bigger that anybody can help.02:41
archangel_My bro-in-law was upgrading the kernal and when 98% done he quit the process and shut down the pc. Now it wont boot02:42
administradorWhat I modify concretelly in file menu.Ist to put windowsxp to default boot!! anybody say me?????02:42
archangel_ok02:42
archangel_3 errors........02:42
glen_administrador: just put the xp entry to the top of the list i.e before the ubuntu kernel entries02:42
DHGEarchangel_: why no boot the old, working kernel?02:42
archangel_that would be great, but I'm a newbie02:43
mrayIs there a way to establish a wireless internet connection on startup on Kubuntu?02:43
DHGEarchangel_: I get a menu (for 5 secs) on boot ...02:43
archangel_its giving me "ramdisk: ran out of compressed data"02:43
djclue917archangel_: may you have a problem with your initrd...02:44
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administradorglen: How I doing that???02:44
archangel_"invalid compressed format (err=1)"02:44
aliasfredmray: yes, just configure the network interface, and click the option 'init on startup' or something close02:44
djclue917archangel_: try to edit the grub menu on real-time02:44
archangel_ok, how?02:44
DHGEdjclue917: newbi-stance??02:45
administradorglen: How I doing that???02:45
archangel_the next error isa kernal panic error02:46
DHGEarchangel_: no old kernel anymore???02:46
aliasfredarchangel_: looks like a corrupted storage. like corruypted cd or disk02:46
archangel_I dont know02:46
glen_administrador:  cut and paste02:46
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archangel_how do you check?02:46
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aliasfredarchangel_: are you booting from cd ?02:47
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archangel_""unable to mount root fs on unknown block"02:47
archangel_no HD02:47
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archangel_installed dapper drake02:47
archangel_am I screwed?02:48
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archangel_this laptop is going to youth camp with one of the leaders tomorrow02:49
archangel_its GOT to be fixed02:49
Admiral_Chicagoarchangel_, did you try booting in recovery mode?02:49
thormray I have setup my development box with kubuntu and I am running windows development tools in vmware if02:49
archangel_how?02:50
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Admiral_Chicagoin the grub.02:50
thorI re install it will mean that I have lost a hole days work and that is not acceptable02:50
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Admiral_Chicagodoes it turn on and list kubuntu and old kernels02:50
mraythor:no way to save it somehow?02:50
archangel_how do I get there? I dont ever see the option02:51
Admiral_Chicagowhen you first boot, its a black screen with white text02:51
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DHGEarchangel_: get professional help and charge your bro-in-law ...02:52
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Admiral_Chicagono offense, but that won't help him...02:52
archangel_dude, he doesnt have a dime02:52
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Admiral_Chicagoarchangel_, try posting in the ubuntu forums.02:53
archangel_I dont get but a few lines during boot up02:53
mrayarchangel_: a installation of Kubuntu is a quick thing. if you need JUSt a working installation.02:53
Admiral_Chicagoand those are the lines of error02:53
Admiral_Chicago?02:54
archangel_I am a very experienced pc user/modder/windows user(over 13 years), but linux is new to me02:54
ElectrolyteAh crap, 2 fatal errors loading a sound module :/02:55
mrayyour brother seems to know at least how to totally screw things.02:55
archangel_yeah, I was thinking on reinstalling, however, the video driver and all that crap. its nothing like windows02:55
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mrayso installing Kubuntu should be easy02:55
ElectrolyteSo far my install of Kubuntu has been hell =/02:55
archangel_I have to ask for help for everything02:55
mraytrue. silly question: don't you have windows around there?02:55
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edwinnalioth,02:56
edwinyou here02:56
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edwinoh02:56
Admiral_Chicagoarchangel_, try posting in the forums and give a detailed description02:56
archangel_ok02:56
edwinnalioth,  code blue02:56
mrayforums are reacting rather slow i think.02:56
ElectrolyteAnyone know what this error means: FATAL: Error inserting snd_emu10k1 (/lib/modules/2.6.15-23-amd64-generic/kernel/sound/pci/emu10k1/snd-emu10k1.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)02:56
archangel_same here02:56
edwinmray help me02:56
Admiral_Chicagoarchangel_, i was the same way when i started, I was a total newbie even though i'm good with computer02:56
ElectrolyteThe guys in #alsa aren't responding.02:56
edwini am looking for a suse linux support room02:56
mrayedwin: did you ask google for it? i know none by heart.02:57
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ElectrolyteOhhh, I see the incorrect parameter.02:57
archangel_#suse  or #suselinux02:57
edwinon freenode02:57
aliasfredjust realized today why people has trouble installing ubuntu, sure there is the 'linux is not perfect' thing, but i think the 'hey there is a way to do thing different than window one' is very significant too02:57
edwinthere has to be one but /list command wouldnt load02:57
edwinserver cant handle it02:57
edwinthanks archangel_02:57
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archangel_yup02:57
grotheskedwin: Do you speak german? Then join #linux-club.de02:58
aliasfredbecause a lot of ubuntu new comers are directly from window and have never used anything but window so in short considere that window way is the only way02:59
archangel_installing ubuntu is a breeze, I thought02:59
aliasfredwell just wanted to share :)02:59
archangel_yeah, your right02:59
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ElectrolyteDoes anyone know where snd-emu10k1 lies? I need to edit it due to an index bug.02:59
DHGEElectrolyte: seems a rather stale kernel to me. U have Kubuntu Dapper?02:59
DHGElocate ...02:59
ElectrolyteYes.02:59
archangel_I keep thinking the way Windows would salve the problem02:59
ElectrolyteI need to locate that sound module since index-0 isn't set correctly.02:59
Admiral_Chicagoarchangel_, you can use the dapper CD to boot and try to reinstall Kubuntu03:00
ElectrolyteIt should be index=0.03:00
archangel_ok03:00
Admiral_Chicagosince its a live CD, you'll be able to backup your dada03:00
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DHGEElectrolyte: locate is a command for the console ...03:00
ElectrolyteAh.03:00
ElectrolyteSorry, I'm a total beginner/.03:00
Admiral_Chicagoarchangel_, what version are you on?03:01
Admiral_ChicagoDHGE, I didn't know that. thanks03:01
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archangel_uhmmm  6.06?03:01
Admiral_Chicagodapper03:02
DHGEAdmiral_Chicago: ?  He's OFF a borked dapper kernel update it seems03:02
archangel_dapper drake03:02
razvanzcine stie limba romana ?03:02
Admiral_Chicagoyea that works a live CD so you should be able to boot to it03:02
ElectrolyteWell that was incorrect, can't edit .ko files :/03:03
razvanzstie cineva limba romana ?03:03
archangel_my bro in law sut the pc off right in the middle of the kernal upgrade (well it was 98% done)03:03
ElectrolyteAnyone know why snd-emu10k1 is set to index-0 instead of index=0?03:03
ElectrolyteI can't find where I need to edit it, alsa-base is set to index=0.03:03
razvanzaloo03:03
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razvanzstie cineva limba romana03:03
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razvanzheloo03:04
Admiral_Chicagoarchangel_, try booting from the CD then let me know what happened03:04
razvanzromanian languge ?03:04
ElectrolyteI think I know what's causing it, brb.03:04
zipper_Argh, i'm going crazy over this. Finally got my wireless connection working (even with WEP), i reboot the machine, makes sure everything is working, and go to sleep. When i power on the machine once again, my wireless connection is _dead_. Can't even bring up the interface anymore, sigh03:04
Admiral_Chicago!ro03:04
ubotuI know nothing about ro - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu03:04
archangel_trying now03:04
razvanzcare stie limba romana03:05
archangel_I cant get the pc to even turn on now03:05
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Admiral_Chicagorazvanz, try #ubuntu-ro03:05
razvanzok03:05
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Admiral_Chicagonobody is in that channel03:05
archangel_seems like a deep problem than just OS03:05
Admiral_Chicagoarchangel_, you might want to try flashing the BIOS03:06
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ElectrolyteDarn, didn't work.03:07
archangel_yeah, but it has the latest version03:07
DHGEElectrolyte: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa.conf  MAKE A BACKUP first!03:08
ElectrolyteI'm trying something else first.03:08
DHGEthe backer the better ;-)03:08
djk_archangel_: what has that to do with flashing the bios?03:09
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ElectrolyteDHGE, that file doesn't exist :S03:10
archangel_well....   dunno03:10
archangel_lol03:10
DHGEuups - alsa-base    look around03:10
ElectrolyteI know, it's set to index=1 there and I also tried index=0 - it still gives me an error saying index-0 is an incorrect parameter when modprobing snd-emu10k1.03:11
ElectrolyteSo something else is trying to set index-0 but of course, that won't work.03:11
DHGElspci ?03:11
ElectrolyteSees the Audigy 2 ZS.03:11
Electrolyte0000:01:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 04)03:11
archangel_sweet sound card03:11
ElectrolyteMeh, it's crap actually.03:12
DHGEElectrolyte: play here in my box :-)03:12
DHGEElectrolyte: plays here in my box :-)03:12
archangel_I have the first one03:12
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ElectrolyteIt was working before I set the Audigy 2 ZS to index=0 in alsa-base so it would use that instead of the Yamaha YMF.03:12
gregoryCan someone please help me with downloading...??03:13
archangel_cant flash the bios if it doesnt boot03:13
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archangel_home the dell is under warrantee03:13
ElectrolyteGot one last thing to try actually, brb.03:13
gregoryIm new to Linux Kubuntu, and i was wondering how do i install things i have downloaded..03:13
DHGEarchangel_: DON'T flash the bios - potentially ruins your PC03:13
Admiral_Chicagoarchangel_, good luck, unfortunetly I have to go to work03:14
archangel_yeah, I know03:14
archangel_thank man, for your help03:14
Admiral_Chicagogregory, what did you download?03:14
gregoryi downloaded a program of the internet, and i dont no how to install it :(03:14
Admiral_Chicagogregory, what program and link please03:15
gregoryGaim.03:15
Admiral_Chicagoah I can't get away...03:15
DHGEgregory: U know what adept is? what package management is?03:15
Admiral_Chicagogregory, open up konsole and type sudo apt-get install gaim03:16
gregoryyes DHGE03:16
Admiral_ChicagoDHGE, that's not helping03:16
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gregoryi dont like konsole03:16
gregoryit doesnt work theres al ways conection errors03:16
gregoryi want to use adept03:16
DHGEAdmiral_Chicago: look - that did not help ;-)03:16
Admiral_Chicagogregory, gaim is in the repos...03:16
gregorybut can someone help me to use it propaly...03:16
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gregory??03:16
jihihi, has anybody a working skim ?03:17
Admiral_Chicagoopen it up, type in your password, and just search for gaim in the search bar03:17
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gregorythen what03:17
Admiral_Chicagothen go to request install and apply03:17
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gregorynothing came up when i typed it in..03:17
Admiral_Chicagogregory, btw, adept is just a grapical installer of your repos, so konsole would be the same thing03:17
zours_jihi, never managed to get it to work :-(03:17
Admiral_Chicago!info repos03:18
ubotuPackage repos does not exist in dapper03:18
Admiral_Chicago!info gaim03:18
ubotugaim: multi-protocol instant messaging client. In repository main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.0+1.5.1cvs20051015-1ubuntu10 (dapper), package size 816 kB, installed size 2148 kB03:18
pitukaaliasfred: THANK YOU! finally i can get online automatically. i spent so much hours to get that work :)03:18
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jihizours_: :'(03:18
mrayaliasfred: I'm pituka :P03:18
gregorycan you download things of konquer?03:18
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Admiral_Chicagogregory, there may be a box that says KDE at the top, do you see that03:19
Admiral_Chicagoby the search bar...03:19
gregoryno03:19
gregorybut i see, Fetch Updates03:19
gregoryand its clickable.03:19
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Electrolytesnd-emu10k1 is STILL trying to set index-0 yet it's set to index=0 in alsa-base - any ideas on that or am I stuck with no sound?03:20
Admiral_Chicagoah okay...hold on03:20
Admiral_Chicago!info gaim03:20
ubotugaim: multi-protocol instant messaging client. In repository main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.0+1.5.1cvs20051015-1ubuntu10 (dapper), package size 816 kB, installed size 2148 kB03:20
otaku-sanreall quick what path is AmaroK normally under starting from /03:20
Admiral_Chicagogregory, did you enable extra repos?03:20
gregoryim not sure03:21
gregoryi just got linux03:21
Admiral_Chicagoi doubt that matter, it should be in main repos03:21
DHGEotaku-san: which "app in case" on the console03:21
aliasfredmray: cool :)03:21
Admiral_Chicago!repos03:21
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource03:21
gregoryshould i check to see if its enabled?03:21
Admiral_Chicagofollow the second link03:21
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gregoryi diont like reading stuff03:22
gregoryi just want instant help03:22
gregorywhy cant downloading be easy:(03:22
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Admiral_Chicagoit is really easy once you set it up03:23
gregorycan u help me set it up.03:23
Admiral_Chicagohow it is downloaded on your computer03:23
Admiral_Chicagoyes i'm trying03:23
gregoryguide me threw03:23
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otaku-sanDHGE: ok going n00b on you. What do you mean by which "app in case" on the console?03:23
Admiral_Chicagoas in which one did you download off the gaim page?03:24
DHGEtype: which amarok03:24
Admiral_Chicagoin fact, they are all rpm03:24
Admiral_Chicagookay do this...open up konsole03:24
gregoryye03:24
otaku-sanDHGE: I thought so...hold on03:24
Admiral_ChicagoI know you don't like it, but follow me03:24
Admiral_Chicagois it on your desktop?03:24
gregoryye03:24
DHGEor: which which03:25
Admiral_Chicagotype "cd /home/gregory(username)/Desktop"03:25
Admiral_Chicagowhatever your login name is, just put that there....03:25
gregoryits gregory03:25
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Admiral_Chicagolike i'm /home/freddy/Desktop03:25
gregoryso gregorygregory03:25
Admiral_Chicagojust once03:26
otaku-sanDHGE: That was to easy for comfor!!!! Thanks man03:26
DHGE.-)03:26
gregoryo such file or directory it said03:26
gregoryno*03:26
Admiral_Chicago/home/gregory/Desktop?03:26
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gregorynup03:27
otaku-sangregory: make sure Desktop is in Caps03:27
vltHello. I just installed flashplugin-nonfree from multiverse. When I open a Website Konqueror still asks me to download the plugin. How can I activate it?03:27
Admiral_Chicagocapitals matter03:27
djk_just 'cd Desktop'  is sufficient in a konsole..03:27
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Admiral_Chicagoare you there?03:27
gregorydoesnt work still03:27
otaku-sandjk: cool I'll try that!03:27
Admiral_Chicagodid you try djk_ 's method?03:28
gregorynno03:28
gregoryi wil now03:28
DHGEor F4 from konqueror ...03:28
Admiral_Chicagocd Desktop03:28
ElectrolyteDoes anyone know if modules.conf will understand the command options snd-emu10k1 index=0?03:28
gregorynow it just addes desktop infront of the thing03:29
gregoryadded*03:29
Admiral_Chicagookay good03:29
Admiral_Chicagotype dir03:29
djk_dir?03:29
Admiral_Chicagoit should list everything right03:29
gregorygregory@gregory-laptop:~/Desktop$ dir03:29
gregoryGregs\ Stuff    tiger2.jpg           vnc-4.0b4-x86_linux.tar.gz03:29
gregorykopete.desktop  vnc-4.0b4-x86_linux03:29
gregorythat..03:29
Admiral_Chicagookay03:30
DHGEElectrolyte: it is installed automagically here - tweak the install commands AFTER backup ...03:30
Admiral_Chicagogaim is an .rpm right?03:30
gregoryim not sure03:30
gregoryi just want to no how to install03:30
ElectrolyteDHGE eh?03:30
Admiral_Chicagoits downloaded on the desktop, read me the name03:30
gregorywhat name03:30
DHGEinstall snd-emu10k1 modprobe --ign    and on ...03:31
gregorythe setup is on the desktop03:31
djk_gregory: update your sources.list, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get install gaim03:31
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Admiral_Chicagothe gaim file03:31
Admiral_Chicagodjk_, that's more complicated that we need to go atm03:31
Admiral_Chicagoplus i'm a be late for work if we do it that way03:32
gregoryit always stays at 0%03:32
ElectrolyteDHGE: I don't understand :/03:32
gregorywhen im updating03:32
djk_Admiral_Chicago: it's better than alienating the rpm and dpkg'ing it03:32
Admiral_Chicagodjk_, yea but look to lines up03:32
ElectrolyteAha, so it does support the index=0 command.03:32
Admiral_Chicagoerr up.03:32
gregorywhat?03:33
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gregoryisnt there like a remote desktop thing so u can do it for me..03:33
DHGEElectrolyte: look at the lines in alsa-base and replace the "magic" with your best guess03:33
Admiral_Chicagogregory, you said you downloaded gaim right? what is the name of the file please.03:33
gregoryo03:33
gregoryum03:33
Admiral_Chicagosomehow, I dont think the bosses will like the excuse "I was late because I was on IRC"03:34
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gregorygaim-1.5.0.x86.package03:35
djk_Admiral_Chicago: then tell them you had sex with a thai hooker ;)03:35
jontydoghi does anyone use kaffeine for viewing dvbs?03:35
Admiral_Chicagoautopackage....grr03:35
Admiral_Chicagoalright you guys need to take over. I have to leave now.03:35
gregory..03:36
DHGEElectrolyte: http://www.google.com/search?q=two+soundcards+in+debian03:36
DHGEWHY two soundcards?03:36
ElectrolyteSecond sound card is used in Windows.03:37
ElectrolyteIt's a Yamaha DS-XG with a level 1 XG midi synthesizer.03:37
gregoryhow can i send virus;s to windows computers?03:37
Electrolytelol?03:37
djk_gregory: by using Windows?03:37
gregoryno03:37
gregorylinux03:37
aliasfredgregory: in a way that wont be described here03:37
gregoryi wana send a virus from linux to windows03:38
gregoryto mi stupid friends at school03:38
djk_it was a rethorical question..03:38
DHGEElectrolyte: blacklist it? http://www.mepis.org/node/9658   found via Google (see link above)03:38
gregoryplz tel me..03:38
aliasfredgregory: we dont promiote illegal activity03:38
gregoryim 1303:38
gregorylol03:38
ElectrolyteDHGE that isn't the problem.03:38
gregorylinux was made for that purpose..03:38
aliasfredgregory: please stop asking for that03:38
ElectrolyteThe problem is the audigy won't enabled.03:38
Electrolyteenable*03:38
gregoryplease tell me03:38
ElectrolyteDue to an incorrect index being set by I don't know what.03:38
gregoryif you no how to..03:38
otaku-sangregory: linux was made to better peoples lives not ruin em' by "viruses"03:39
ElectrolyteLinux was made for sending viruses? Rofl.03:39
DHGEElectrolyte: How do you get the index? command?03:39
Electrolytedmesg after trying to enable the module.03:39
gregorygerman kids at school always send virus's to the IT service..03:39
djk_what???03:39
Electrolyte[ 1730.437208]  snd_emu10k1: Unknown parameter `index-0'03:39
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ElectrolyteThat's the message in dmesg.03:40
gregorythey can shutdown the school server for a minute..03:40
djk_gregory: are you an idiot?03:40
aliasfredgregory: please stop asking how to break into other computer here. we wont help you03:40
gregoryno03:40
ElectrolyteHe's 13, what do you expect?03:40
gregorypussys,,03:40
djk_Electrolyte: a brain?03:40
ElectrolyteAt that age? You must be joking :P03:40
djk_Electrolyte: my 4 month old nephew is smarter..03:41
gregorydude..trust me i no ALOT about windows xp and windows vista...03:41
djclue917Electrolyte: even newly born babies have brains right? :)03:41
ElectrolyteAnd?03:41
ElectrolyteWindows is crap gregory :P03:41
gregoryits better than linux03:41
ElectrolyteYeah I agree with that djclue.03:41
aliasfredgregory: good for you, but please dont ask about how to break into other computers here03:41
djk_gregory: dude, then use windows, dude, to, you know dude, to haxxorz tha internets, dude03:41
gregorywelll...03:41
gregoryhes the story..03:41
edwinsuse linux > kubuntu :P03:42
ElectrolyteBah, I don't like SUSE since the ATI driver fails to install.03:42
edwinkubuntu < suse linux :P03:42
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gregoryi was installing kubuntu coz mi friend had the disk..but we screwed up the partition and delted windows.. so when i go to schoool on moday i will get windows back on and install kubuntu propaly03:42
djclue917Electrolyte: the driver installs perfectly on my SUSE box.03:42
edwinlol gregory03:43
ElectrolyteYeah but I have an X850XT PE, which even craps out on installing Kubuntu.03:43
djclue917Electrolyte: i think there was really an issue and an upgrade is needed.03:43
aliasfredgregory: this channel is about helping people on how to use kubuntu. if you have question about it, ask them, if they are not about breaking other computer obviously :)03:43
ElectrolyteI have to download the driver again via atp-get and install it manaully.03:43
gregoryhow the hell do i download:D03:43
gregorywith the browser.03:44
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ElectrolyteIs there any other files that try to set index's? I don't understand why snd-emu10k1 is trying to set index-0 when it's incorrect.03:44
gregory;)03:44
gregorysomeone..how do i download things of the webbrowser and install them03:45
djk_gregory: get the ubuntu X.XX deb package, sudo dpkg -i <filename>  in a konsole03:45
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gregoryit says03:46
ElectrolyteGonna try this option in the modules.conf, brb.03:46
gregorydatabase locked by other area03:46
djclue917gregory: what do you want to install? is it not in the Ubuntu repositories?03:46
otaku-sangregory: then that means you don't have enough repos prob03:47
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gregoryit is locked by another process03:47
gregoryit says exatcly03:47
djclue917gregory: it means that probably, an instance of apt is already running03:47
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ElectrolyteGrrr, still not working.03:47
admin__hello03:47
ElectrolyteGod sake.03:47
gregorystatus database area is locked by aanother process03:47
otaku-sandjclue917: yeah I hate it when I'm in the middle of konsole and adept is up and messes it up03:48
djk_gregory: close adept03:48
gregoryk03:48
gregorythen?03:48
DHGEgregory: it's is the virus from your buddy that's locking03:48
gregorytry again?03:48
admin__is there a linux distribution which supports windows applications?03:48
gregoryhaha funny no03:48
admin__and Aurox?03:48
djclue917admin__: use wine03:48
djclue917admin__: sudo apt-get install wine03:48
admin__ok i know03:48
admin__but thank03:49
gregorydjk:what do i do now03:49
gregoryi closed it..03:49
Electrolytesnd-emu10k1 is STILL setting index-0 :/03:49
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ElectrolyteI'm about to give up completely :(03:49
otaku-sangregory: you need to probably try again and if it balks again then you don't have enough repos03:49
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otaku-sangregory: checklist for installing stuff: adept off, konsole up, lots of repos.03:50
gregorygregory@gregory-laptop:~/Desktop$ dir03:50
gregoryGregs\ Stuff    tiger2.jpg           vnc-4.0b4-x86_linux.tar.gz03:50
gregorykopete.desktop  vnc-4.0b4-x86_linux03:50
Cisounits the first time for me to chat by IRC! ;-)03:51
ubuntuhello03:51
ubuntusalut ^03:51
ubuntuheu ?03:51
gregorydpkg: --install needs at least one package archive file argument03:51
Cisounsalut03:51
gregoryType dpkg --help for help about installing and deinstalling packages [*] ;03:51
Cisounsa va?03:51
gregoryUse `dselect' or `aptitude' for user-friendly package management;03:51
gregoryType dpkg -Dhelp for a list of dpkg debug flag values;03:51
gregoryType dpkg --force-help for a list of forcing options;03:51
gregoryType dpkg-deb --help for help about manipulating *.deb files;03:51
gregoryType dpkg --licence for copyright licence and lack of warranty (GNU GPL) [*] .03:51
gregoryOptions marked [*]  produce a lot of output - pipe it through `less' or `more' !03:51
ubuntuLooooooooool ^ comment je suis arriv la moi ?03:51
Cisounhaha bienvenue !03:51
ubuntubah je sais pas, j'ai instal kubuntu et voila ^03:51
Cisounc bien hein?03:51
ubuntupur, jamais vu un truc aussi classe ^03:51
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daskore ^^03:51
daskobah c'est un open source03:52
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Cisountrop! j'tais sur live messenger sous windows y'a 5 min mais l'IRC c trop bien!03:52
daskonormal que ca soit mieux que windows03:52
Cisountrop03:52
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daskobah moi je dis03:52
Cisounmais j'ai plus de partitions pour installer FreeBSD!03:52
otaku-san....wow I've never seen an ongoing conversation in french...this is awesome03:52
daskoje pense que je vais l'installer ^03:52
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gregoryhelo03:52
daskohey otaku03:52
Cisounj'ai le dernier!03:52
footcan anyone recoment a tv card for linux that is a simple install? preferably a packaged thing?03:53
daskodon worry i speak english too03:53
gregorydude.. dont talk french i never listen in class.03:53
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glen_foot: think the pci hauppage are the best03:53
daskohum, is linux very good to instal ? no risq ?03:53
daskoim afraid03:53
daskoi dont know if or not install it03:53
CisounVive Linus Torvalds!03:53
daskome its kubuntu03:53
gregorydpkg: --install needs at least one package archive file argument03:53
otaku-sandasko: sweet!  My brother is trying to learn french....I stink03:54
daskolol ^03:54
daskowhen U want03:54
jontydogfoot I have a skystar 2 and that was easy to install03:54
daskootaku, japaneese ?03:54
gregoryi learn frnech n japenese03:54
gregoryim 1303:54
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Cisoundoes he speaks french good?03:54
otaku-sangregory: ok so that's what popped up for you when you tried to install?03:54
dasko yer old ?03:54
gregoryye03:55
daskoOMFG, a 13 i just learn french ^ Lol03:55
footI spent the last 5 days trying to install a wintv-pvr 150 from hauppauge03:55
otaku-sandasko: I wish I knew Japanese....03:55
gregorydpkg: --install needs at least one package archive file argument03:55
gregoryType dpkg --help for help about installing and deinstalling packages [*] ;03:55
dawidNo to otworzyem /etc/apt/sources.list uywajc vi, to naszczcie jest ;) i okazao si, e po instalacji w /etc/apt/sources.list wikszo rde jest zakomentowana.03:55
gregoryUse `dselect' or `aptitude' for user-friendly package management;03:55
gregoryType dpkg -Dhelp for a list of dpkg debug flag values;03:55
gregoryType dpkg --force-help for a list of forcing options;03:55
gregoryType dpkg-deb --help for help about manipulating *.deb files;03:55
gregoryType dpkg --licence for copyright licence and lack of warranty (GNU GPL) [*] .03:55
gregoryOptions marked [*]  produce a lot of output - pipe it through `less' or `more' !03:55
gregoryotaku-san: thats what came up03:55
daskootaku-san: but are U a japansese ?03:55
otaku-sandasko: sadly no...why?03:56
glen_foot: what problem were you having?03:56
daskobecause i love japaneese ^03:56
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gregorydpkg: --install needs at least one package archive file argument03:56
gregoryType dpkg --help for help about installing and deinstalling packages [*] ;03:56
otaku-sandasko: me too03:56
gregoryUse `dselect' or `aptitude' for user-friendly package management;03:56
gregoryType dpkg -Dhelp for a list of dpkg debug flag values;03:56
gregoryType dpkg --force-help for a list of forcing options;03:56
gregoryType dpkg-deb --help for help about manipulating *.deb files;03:56
gregoryType dpkg --licence for copyright licence and lack of warranty (GNU GPL) [*] .03:56
gregoryOptions marked [*]  produce a lot of output - pipe it through `less' or `more' !03:56
gregoryotaku-san: thats what came up!03:56
footI dont have access to the database.03:56
daskootaku ? ure a admin ?03:56
daskoUre in red , i think its Admin no ?03:57
glen_foot: what database?03:57
footand I only use  a few diferent passwords. none work03:57
jontydogfoot: do you have a tv card?03:57
otaku-sangregory: dude chill! I saw it the first time I'm trying to look at it!03:57
footaww hell Ill be right back03:57
daskohum, im interessed too for the TV card, I got a Pinaple 50 I03:57
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dasko50i sorry ^^03:58
otaku-sandasko: hehe no I'm not admin.  And neither am I good with Linux....I get by tho'03:58
Hawkwindgregory: Start using pastebin please03:58
Hawkwind!pastebin03:58
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)03:58
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gregorywhats that??03:58
dasko^^ do i install linux, is it Good ? and what can we do in linux ?03:58
Hawkwindgregory: Read ^^^^^^^^^03:58
thomaswfrygood morning03:58
ubuntuhi all03:58
daskohi ubuntu03:58
otaku-sanHawkwind: thank you sooooo much!  I just thought of that03:58
gregoryk03:58
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thomaswfryi have a simple question i hope.03:59
gregoryso wat now otaku-san?03:59
ubuntui'm chatting froma live cd version of Kubuntu, and i'm going to install it, but i have a question03:59
daskoMe too03:59
daskogood same way03:59
DHGEElectrolyte: http://alsa.opensrc.org/MultipleCards03:59
daskochatting from CD too03:59
otaku-sanubuntu, dasko: fire away03:59
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daskobut, what can we do with kubuntu ?03:59
thomaswfryi need to recusively search a directory for mp3 files and then once found move them all to a single directory03:59
thomaswfryany suggestions ?03:59
otaku-sangregory: check your repos...let me get the path for you04:00
footERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: YES)04:00
daskootaku : sorry i dont understand04:00
gregoryok04:00
ubuntui have one partition to WP, and two for Suse linux (swap and root): what have i to do to install Kubuntu over the Suse installation?04:00
ElectrolyteDHGE - that's not the problem,.04:00
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footyes I have a tv card, wintv-pvr 15004:00
Hawkwindthomaswfry: You could ask that in #Bash and they would give you a one liner to do just that real quick04:00
glen_foot: well, i'd try to get the card working first, then deal with the myth-tv side of things. just a suggestion04:00
otaku-sandasko: it means ask your question.  It's kindof slang in english04:01
jontydogtry using Kaffeine instead of mythtv04:01
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jontydoguse the dvb section04:01
DHGEthomaswfry: http://personal.riverusers.com/~thegrendel/abs-guide-4.0.tar.bz2  or man find and "|"04:01
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daskootaku-san: ok, i want to know what we can do in linux, and its he better than Windows XP ?04:01
ubuntui have one partition to WP, and two for Suse linux (swap and root): what have i to do to install Kubuntu over the Suse installation? Have I to delete the two linux partitions, or can i press continue and it will be installed automatically there?=04:01
footglen_:  I have been following an install set of direction on http://www.quietglow.com/docs/ubuntumythtv.html04:01
Hawkwindubuntu: Just insert the CD and do an install.  It'll let you install over the SuSe install if you tell it to install on those partitions04:01
Hawkwindubuntu: Just tell it to install on the partitions where SuSe is04:02
gregoryotaku-san: hurryy04:02
footglen_: but I have only had linux for 5 days04:02
ubuntuahm, ok. And it will configure the Grub?04:02
Hawkwinddasko: Try reading some linux sites.  Trying to tell you that here in the channel is quite difficult04:02
ubuntuwill it*04:02
Hawkwindubuntu: It should, yes04:02
otaku-sanHawkwind: hey how do I start a private chat04:02
ubuntuHawkwind:  ok thanks, and sorry for my english... i'm connecting from spain ;-)04:03
gregoryotaku-san!!!!!!!!!!!!! HURRRY04:03
niekieotaku-san, "/query Nickname" usually.04:03
Hawkwindotaku-san: /query <nick>    That will open a new tab/window that you can then type to that person in04:03
Hawkwindgregory: CHILL!!!!!!04:03
daskoHawkwind: but, if i install kubuntu, how can i do for desinstal ?04:03
Hawkwindgregory: Seriously man.  When on IRC you need to have patience or else users will *not* help you04:03
ubuntusee you04:03
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gregorywel its 3am here04:04
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Hawkwinddasko: You don't de-install, you simply delete the partition or install over it04:04
gregoryim tired im on 13 years old04:04
jontydogyou still need patience gregory04:04
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Hawkwindgregory: Then go to bed and stop pushing everyones buttons and upsetting them04:04
daskoHawkwind: ok, but now i got windows PRo, no prob for choose the OS ?04:04
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Hawkwindgregory: You keep doing what you're doing and everyone will put you on ignore and then noone will help you04:04
HawkwindHobbsee: Good morning04:05
daskoi got 2 HS, one of 300 G and one of 250 G with windows04:05
Hawkwinddasko: Are you wanting to keep the Windows install ?04:05
daskoyes i want04:05
foothgow would one sheck to see if the tvcard is working?04:05
Hawkwinddasko: Then install Linux to the partition that Windows is *not* on.  You'll see the option during the install04:05
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daskook no prob04:05
daskonow i install04:05
HobbseeHawkwind: hi04:06
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otaku-sanHawkwind: Thank you.  Ok now how do I get someone to join...so n00b in this aspect04:06
Hawkwindotaku-san: When you type to them if they are registered with nickserv, then they can respond back to you04:07
daskobut got a last question, all my files (GAME musics, etc, are on the 2nd HD, if i install linux in this, is windows see the HD ?04:07
vltHello. I just installed flashplugin-nonfree from multiverse. When I open a Website Konqueror still asks me to download the plugin. How can I activate it?04:07
Hawkwindotaku-san: If they aren't registered, then they need to register with nickserv first04:07
gregoryotaku-san: have you got the path?04:07
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Hawkwindvlt: Did you follow the how-to on the wiki ?  It has a part about getting it to work with konqueror04:07
Hawkwinddasko: It should see it, yes04:08
daskoOk04:08
daskonow, im in instalater, but, i want to create a partition of 100 G for linux04:08
daskohow do thaht ?04:08
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gregory100g...is that all04:08
gregoryi did 500g04:09
otaku-sangregory: yes, but I'm trying to start a private chat with you so we don't tie up this ORC04:09
niekiedasko, umm.. follow the dialog boxes VERY carefully.04:09
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daskook04:09
gregoryi can do private chat04:09
gregorycant*04:09
niekieAnd make sure you don't accidentally delete the wrong data. Heh.04:09
niekieElse... all your data. *poof*04:09
daskosee yaround , i do instalation ^^04:09
niekieBackup to be sure.04:09
Hawkwindotaku-san: Take him to #Ubuntu-Classroom04:09
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niekiedasko, note: BACKUP!04:09
daskobackup 200 G its hard i think04:09
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daskoi try ^^04:10
otaku-sangregory: go to what Hawkwind posted04:10
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otaku-sanHawkwind: thanks man04:10
=== niekie doesn't even have 100G ;)
Hawkwindgregory: Join #Ubuntu-Classroom04:10
daskoits ok, i allow 100 for linux, irs ok ?04:10
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Sikonhow can I switch to my monitor's built-in speakers from standalone ones?04:11
niekieI have only 19 GB for Linux.04:11
Hawkwinddasko: That's a good start :)04:11
Sikonif I have both pluggeed04:11
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footWho recomended the skycard?04:12
footskystar?04:12
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footno one recomended the skystar satelight reciever?04:15
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ubuntuHello people04:17
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justuseri'm new in kubuntu world04:17
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justuserhave a little question04:17
justusertrying to configure locales in my system04:18
justuseri want to have koi8-r04:18
justusereverywhere except messages04:18
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justuserso my locale command tells me that i have koi8-r04:18
Sikonjustuser> set your default locale to ru_RU.KOI8-R and04:19
justuserbut how can make my LC_MESSAGES en_US?04:19
Sikonset the LC_MESSAGES environment variable to en04:19
justuserwhere?04:19
justuserin /etc/envirenment?04:19
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Sikon    -  04:20
Sikon%)04:20
justuser:)04:20
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ubuntuhi there04:21
Sikon     -   ~/.bash_profile04:21
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justuserSikon - glyan v lichku plz04:21
Sikon -    04:21
justuserok04:22
visik7anyone here have tried parallels ?04:22
edisavguys, does anyone know if kubuntu will release the firefox 1.5.0.6 upgrade? It's been more than a week since firefox released it.04:22
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Sikonedisav> why don't you just download it?04:22
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MrBaffalohi there again....04:22
otaku-sanHawkwind: hey whats the link to paste.bin?04:23
edisavsikon, because that's not the recommended way to do it04:23
Sikonmeh04:23
Sikonwho cares04:23
SikonI never wait for my distribution to release Firefox as a package04:23
TheGateKeeperSikon: why should he have to, what's the point of the repos if you are going to start doing that???04:23
justuserSikon - ne mogu poka russkiy vbit s live cd04:24
Hawkwindedisav: It's in the repos04:24
edisavhow do i get that? I'm new to ubuntu but not to linux04:24
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Hawkwindjustuser: This is an English only channel.  Might try joining your languages respective Kubuntu channel04:24
Sikonin my opinion, as long as you understand what you're doing, it's ok04:24
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Hawkwindedisav: You need to enable all the repos04:24
Hawkwind!repos > edisav04:24
TheGateKeeperwhere Hawkwind?04:24
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HawkwindAhhh, I take that back.  1.5.0.6 hasn't made it yet04:25
edisavdoes it have to do with including universe?04:25
justuserHawkwind  -sorry, i will.  can't someone tell me russian channel?04:25
Hawkwind!russian04:25
ubotuI know nothing about russian - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu04:25
Hawkwind!ru04:26
ubotuPozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help04:26
djk_!ru04:26
justuserthx a lot04:26
TheGateKeeperSikon: IMHO defeats the point of the repos04:26
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edisavwell, it seems that ubuntu hasn't upgraded its version yet, right?04:27
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TheGateKeeperSikon: if we are going to start that lark up, then we might as well have setup.exe like windows and all that goes with it04:27
TheGateKeeperedisav: would seem so04:28
edisavdoes anyone know if/when they will do it?04:28
justusercan't configure russian keyboard in kubuntu livecd, than will ask here :)04:29
Hawkwindedisav: There are no new features in 1.5.0.6 anyways,  Stick with 1.5.0.5 until Ubuntu gets 1.5.0.604:29
edisavany securuty risks that you know of?04:29
justusermy problem is that, i want to have messages in english and locale koi8r04:29
daskohey , ... its been 20 minutes i wait for the installation04:29
justusermy /etc/envirenment is04:29
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justuserLANG=ru_RU.KOI8-R04:30
footjontydog: do you know how well it workd with cable comming in?04:30
justuserLC_MESSAGES="en_US"04:30
Hawkwindedisav: No.  If there were security reasons for an update, Ubuntu would have it already04:30
footjontydog: as apposed to satalight?04:30
edisavok, thanx04:30
justuserbut then there are troubles with apt04:30
daskooh time the installation take (my PC = AMD 64 FX 3500 + / 1 G   6600 GT04:30
daskohow ^^04:30
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justuserit says that LC_ALL is not set :(04:31
daskooh sorry ^^ wrong cS04:31
daskoCD04:31
tkwhats the hot_keys for screenshots? I took one yesterday on accident and now I cant find it to save my life....04:31
daskoi dont take the CD for the 64 bit installation ^^04:31
Sikonwhenever a new version of Firefox comes out, I unpack the tar.gz to /usr/local/firefox/ and symlink /usr/local/bin/firefox to the executable04:31
archangel_where is the restore option in the kubuntu live cd?04:31
daskoSee yaround all04:31
Sikontk> PrintScreen, duh04:31
tksikon: not doing it, thats what I tried04:31
Sikonstrange04:32
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glen_how to get rid of the bouncing icons when opening a program?04:32
tkit opens up a viewer right away right?04:32
Sikontk> try Regional & Accessibility settings04:32
Sikonin the control panel04:32
archangel_where is the restore option in kubuntu?04:33
otaku-sanhey anyone know of a howto on making the k menu transparent04:33
djclue917glen_: Control Center -> Appearance & Themes -> Launch Feedback04:33
archangel_right click on the menu bar04:33
foototaku-san: right klick on it and go to configure panel04:34
jontydogFoot: skystar2 only works with satellite m8 not cable04:34
archangel_or what djclue917 said04:34
glen_djclue917: thanks, one less annoyance04:34
archangel_lol04:34
Hawkwindfoot: He's talking about the menu, not the panel04:34
otaku-sanfoot: yeah04:34
archangel_ohhh04:34
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foototaku-san: oh04:34
otaku-sanfoot: yeah...hehehe04:35
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footjontydog: ok then  it wont work for me.04:35
longbeanmenu translucency is in System Settings->Appearance->Style04:35
otaku-sanI've already made everything else trans04:35
archangel_a clear menu is hard to read when you have a white page behind it04:35
jontydogok foot04:36
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footjontydog: thx though04:36
archangel_Hawkwind: hey, where is the restore option in kubuntu live cd?04:36
archangel_I need to restore the kernal Hawkwind04:37
zzzerotimehi all04:38
ponce#kubuntuespaa04:38
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tkSikon: got it working thanks, just had to "re apply" even though it should have worked04:39
Hawkwindarchangel_: No idea.  I've never used the Live CD04:39
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zzzerotimeI was wondering if there are any way to install gunz international or any other free fps under linux04:39
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zzzerotime#kubuntuespaa Illegal channel name04:40
zzzerotimewtf04:40
windhow do you get flash to work in ff04:40
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nielseejiedereen04:40
TheGateKeeperwind: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox04:41
windthanks04:41
nielshas sb experience with hacking?04:41
nielsjust 4 funbtw04:41
TheGateKeeperwind: yw :-)04:42
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sorush20!kmymoney04:43
ubotuI know nothing about kmymoney - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu04:43
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itsmmust go TODAY 2 dell xps m1710 laptops. price 600. these are on yahoo auctions. shipping is included in price and carry cases, message me if interested on aim at itscrazymikeeh or msn at mcsltd3@hotmail.com04:48
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ElectrolyteWell I feel like removing Kubuntu and just not bothering with Linux again.04:50
jontydoglol@electrolyte I have felt like that but have stuck with it04:51
jontydogits the best version of linux i have tried so far04:51
ElectrolyteWell I'm trying to use Linux for desktop stuff and just use Windows for games, but this is just getting rediculous.04:51
ElectrolyteHow can I get Kubuntu to read NTFS drives?04:52
ElectrolyteI need to pull my music from another drive :(04:52
visik7Electrolyte: for read only just mount it04:52
visik7Electrolyte: for r/w try ntfs-3g04:53
TheGateKeeperElectrolyte: there are howto's in the ubuntu forums04:53
visik7there's a guide to set it up04:53
itsmmust go TODAY 2 dell xps m1710 laptops. price 600. these are on yahoo auctions. shipping is included in price and carry cases, message me if interested on aim at itscrazymikeeh or msn at mcsltd3@hotmail.com04:53
ElectrolyteI only want to read the drive.04:53
Hawkwinditsm: Don't spam that junk here04:53
TheGateKeeperElectrolyte: repo for ntfs-3g --> deb http://flomertens.keo.in/ubuntu/ dapper main04:54
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TheGateKeeper!ntfs > Electrolyte04:54
ElectrolyteHang on got too many talking to me.04:54
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jontydogonly problem I am having at the moment is networking my 3 other pcs to this one04:55
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jontydogmy windows pcs are asking for a password and I haven't set one04:55
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icahi04:57
jontydoghi ica04:58
icai have a little problem connecting to my ssh server (rssh) with fish04:58
ElectrolyteHey cheers, the script mounted them easily :)04:58
ElectrolyteLeft them as read-only.04:58
icaI am running rssh on my server to restrict it a little bit for the users on the server04:58
icathe problem is that it isn't possible to connect to it with fish04:59
_Shade_how should the fstab entry for an usb device mounting look like ?04:59
Hawkwindica: So use sftp://04:59
icais this a known problem (connecting to normal ssh servers is no problem)?04:59
vltHawkwind: [flash ind Konqueror]  In the wiki I only can find "sudo update-flashplugin ... The plug-in will be available the next time you start Konqueror." But it doesn't work. Mmh ...04:59
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Hawkwind!flash > vlt05:00
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_Shade_!pl05:00
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl05:00
Hawkwindvlt: Follow the one there.  It works as I've done it and flash works in konqueror here05:00
icaHawkwind: thanx, that works!05:00
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icaI've tried it in the 'External places'05:01
itsmmust go TODAY 2 dell xps m1710 laptops. price 600. these are on yahoo auctions. shipping is included in price and carry cases, message me if interested on aim at itscrazymikeeh or msn at mcsltd3@hotmail.com05:01
Hawkwind!ops05:02
ubotuHelp! Riddell, uniq, Mez, jpatric, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, or gnomefreak05:02
HawkwindSomeone please kill this spammer05:02
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HawkwindHeh05:02
HawkwindEven better :P05:02
imbrandon_hrm ok05:02
Hawkwindimbrandon_: He's doing it in about 40 channels05:02
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icathanx for your help! bye!05:03
z1pp3r!sound05:03
ubotuIf sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems05:03
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Hawkwindimbrandon_: Thanks for atleast responding :)05:03
imbrandon_heh np05:04
windyou know what i want to see on this final fu show05:04
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windcapoeira05:04
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ElectrolyteAnyone know how to get Mp3 support? :(05:07
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aliasfred!restricted05:08
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:08
aliasfredElectrolyte: the ubotu message was for you05:08
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vltHawkwind: [flash ind Konqueror]  Thanks. I did the "find new plugins" thing in Konqueror and now it works.05:10
ElectrolyteTy.05:10
vltHawkwind: s/ind/and05:10
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Hawkwindvlt: Glad to have helped :)05:11
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thomaswfrycan anyone recommend a program that i can use to create playlists with drag and drop ?  xmms doesnt do it05:13
aliasfredamarok is likely to do it05:13
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thomaswfrythanks, i'll check that out05:13
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vlt[OT (but don't know where to ask elsewhere]  I tried to set "/nick mynickname" but got "nickname already in use". That's right. It was another running irc client in the office. How could I have forced the other logging out and me logging in to freenode irc?05:15
aliasfred!register05:15
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration05:15
aliasfredvlt: the last ubotu msg was for you05:16
vltaliasfred: Thank you.05:16
vltaliasfred: I can't find an answer to my question there.05:17
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Hawkwindvlt: If the other nick was registered, /msg nickserv ghost <nick> <password>05:18
Hawkwindvlt: /msg nickserv help   for all your nickserv questions/answers05:19
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aliasfredvlt: sorry i wasnt explicit enought, 1. register your nick, then 2. do what Hawkwind said. it will have the effect you want05:20
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vltaliasfred/Hawkwind: The nick was already registered. Thank you, I'll try that ghost thing next time ...05:23
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GoatBoycan anyone help with geting Archos Gmini XS202 mp3 player working with Amarok, it mounts automatic in Kubuntu but AMarok canot find dev not sure it i am using right mount cmd in Amarok - new to linux05:25
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intelikeyhmmm running ibunt 6.06 LTS   four login consoles running in 11m of ram05:27
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Doodluvis there a way to change where desktop icons are located? ie, when inserting disc the icon go to the right side instead of left?05:27
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windwhat video player do i use to play .avi files?05:28
zipper_I'm looking someone who has experience with getting the intel hda soundcard working on an Asus A6R laptop. The problem is extensive and well known, therefore i do not want to spam up a channel about something i guess only few could know something about.05:28
windkaffeine says the files are only 6 seconds each... which they aren't05:28
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Doodluvwind: try vlc05:28
intelikeyDoodluv look inside the icon files  there may be settings.05:28
intelikeygeometry is what you want05:29
TheGateKeeperwind: it's the codecs that are the problem not the media player05:29
TheGateKeeper!codecs > wind05:29
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soonHi folks ... what would you recommend for file sharing between two kubuntu machines on a LAN? ssh, KNetAttatch or ??05:29
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windthankie05:29
Doodluvintelikey: geometry?05:30
intelikeydamn! can nothing graphical run without perl ?05:30
TheGateKeepersoon: NFS05:30
TheGateKeeper!nfs05:30
ubotunfs is the network file system. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.05:30
intelikeyDoodluv yes  geometry05:30
soon... NFS okay dokay ... KNetAttatch should use NFS right?05:31
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TheGateKeepersoon: sorry no knowledge of KNetAttatch ;-(05:32
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WalzmynIs anybody here having trouble with Kicker locking up?05:34
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IMECi seem to have problems with flash and konqueror...although firefox seems to work the same does not apply for konqueror05:35
gnomefreakWalzmyn: when is it locking?05:35
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gnomefreakWalzmyn: what version of kde are you using? any errors?05:36
intelikeyah ha i see,  it's defoma that depends on perl and everything graphic(except a very few) depends on defoma    anything that might replace defoma ???05:36
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gnomefreakbrb smoke05:36
Walzmyngnomefreak The latest one, far as I know. It is now locking up as soon as I boot05:37
intelikeygnomefreak you can smoke but your computer cant.05:37
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Walzmynoh yes, computers can smoke. I've seen 'em.05:37
intelikeyonly one time05:37
Walzmyntrue enough05:38
intelikeyyou let the smoke out,  they don't work no mo05:38
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intelikeythus all electronics run on smoke05:38
WalzmynHa!05:38
soonTheGateKeeper : If Im only connecting two kubuntu machines will I still  need Samba ?05:39
intelikeysoon no05:39
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TheGateKeepersoon: no I don't think so just use NFS05:39
soonhmm ... apt-get install nfs ?05:39
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intelikeydefoma replacement ?05:40
TheGateKeeper!nfs > soon05:41
TheGateKeepersoon: read the pm from ubotu05:41
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soonwill do !05:42
soonThanks !05:42
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TheGateKeepersoon: yw ;-)05:43
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exmethixhi @ all05:44
exmethixdoes anybody know how to change the fontcolor of the window list in the panel?05:44
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WalzmynShould be under setting--> fonts05:45
otaku-sanhey this bit always gets me.  Okay for wine I already installed it thru apt-get install... and it's in /usr/bin/wine how do I get it up and running?05:45
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Walzmynotaku-san now you have to do the "dining" part05:46
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otaku-sanWalzmyn: dining...is that what I put into konsole?05:47
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Hawkwindotaku-san: join #WineHQ and those guys can you help you since they are the experts05:47
Walzmynotaku-san no, That was from "Wining and Dinning" - humor dosn't work as well in text05:47
gnomefreakWalzmyn: i need to know if its 3.5.4 or not05:47
Walzmynotaku-san try typing wine in the terminal and see what happens05:48
soulriderhi everyone05:48
gnomefreakWalzmyn: seeing as i just filed a bug on it when it boots the trash messages stays in upper left corner and kicker is empty ;)05:48
Walzmyngnomefreak how do i find out, with my panel not working, is there a terminal command for that?05:48
djk_otaku-san: run winecfg, configure it, then wine some.exe iirc05:48
gnomefreakWalzmyn: apt-cache policy kdebase05:48
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otaku-sanWalzmyn: haha ok now I get it!05:49
exmethixWalzmyn: no it isnt05:49
ewiwini wonder why there are no linuxn channels on paltalk05:49
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aliasfredwhat is paltalk ?05:50
Walzmynexmethix no what isn't?05:50
Walzmyngnomefreak it's 3.5.305:51
exmethixWalzmyn: i dont find a option setting -> fonts in the panel men05:51
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thomaswfry8-) Kudos on the recommendation of Amorok. That is an awesome program and solved my problem instantly. Thanks05:51
otaku-sandjk_: so I would type run winecfg, or cd it?  Then I would ./configure it right?05:51
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gnomefreakWalzmyn: when it locks the kicker is empty and you have the trash loading thing in upper left corner?05:51
frantikTerve!05:51
gnomefreakWalzmyn: and im assuming your on dapper05:51
Walzmynexmethix oh, well, I think I know wehre it is, BUT my kicker panel is locked up and I can't do anything, so I can't look - sorry05:52
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djk_otaku-san: no, just winecfg, it's a program to configure wine..05:52
Walzmyngnomefreak yes to dapper, not to my knowledege with the trash, but i keep the panel on the top, so i could be covering it up. It just won't do anything and won't restart with a DCOP command05:52
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exmethixWalzmyn: np :)05:53
gnomefreakWalzmyn: ok let me look into a few things.05:53
otaku-sandjk_: so just type winecfg in konsole05:53
Walzmyngnomefreak thanks for the help. I'm just going to reinstall and not do any upgrades this time. I have to go help my wife with something05:54
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djk_yes05:54
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otaku-sandjk_: ok it's working05:55
kashifanyone there05:55
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nearfaramaroK sucks for synching music library to my iPod05:56
nearfardo you guys suggest any other app for synching with iPod?05:56
djk_no, your ipod sucks :p05:56
fritschnearfar: why does it suck?05:56
fritschnearfar: what does not work?05:56
fritschnearfar: which version do you use?05:56
nearfarfritsch: the iPod browser shows music by Artist and there is no option to 'sync' music fom local disk05:57
nearfarfritsch: 1.3.905:57
relixwhat alternatives are there to quanta and bluefish?05:57
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kashifhhhheeeellllllllllooooooooo05:57
fritschnearfar: try version 1.4.105:57
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aliasfrednvu ?05:57
relixI'm especially looking for something that can easily upload changed files to the server for testing05:58
fritschnearfar: just add the following to your /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-stable dapper main05:58
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fritschnearfar: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade05:58
The_PoetI need help to set up my wlan to work in my ubuntu, however in network settings it dosent seem to see the ESSID even though its open (it can be seen in kubuntu). even if i type in the ESSID manually, it dosent connect. any suggestions?05:58
aliasfredrelix: dunno if it match your need, but it is an alternative http://www.nvu.com/index.php05:58
relixkthx aliasfred I'll check it out05:58
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spiros_hi05:59
fritschnearfar: never had any with this version and my ipod05:59
Cagarihi how can i install apps without an internet connection?05:59
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zipper__Cagari, you can use packages on your harddrive, floppy drive or cd/dvd drive05:59
zipper__or compile sources06:00
Cagarii get error when i try to install *.deb on kubuntu06:00
zipper__what kind of error, and what are you trying to install?06:00
fritschCagari: * means 0,1 ...n (n-> infinity)06:01
Cagarifor example i need gcc06:01
fritschCagari: or just a random one?06:01
fritschCagari: place your cd in drive and do apt-get install build-essential06:01
Cagarithe live cd?06:01
nearfarfritsch: fyi, I installed kubuntu-deskop after install ubuntu06:01
nearfarI don't think I would have kubuntu.org in my sources.list06:01
fritschnearfar: no problem, just install the new amarok the sources list06:01
fritschnearfar: You have to place it in later ...06:02
fritschnearfar: ubuntu just ships with 1.3.9 (which really sucks *G*)06:02
fritschCagari: have a try06:02
fritschCagari: if it cannot find these packages, it wants to download from the net06:02
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Cagarithe prob is i cant connect to net. I trying to get it working right now. USB sagem modem >>"06:03
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Cagarioh well ty for advice06:03
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fritschCagari: no problem, i do not know if the modem is supported06:04
dek_aikCagari: use "sudo dpkg -i xxx.deb" to install individual files06:04
fritschnearfar: working?06:04
fritschdek_aik: yes, but only if there arent other dependencies ...06:04
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nearfarfritsch: let me try06:05
fritschnearfar: ill do :-)06:05
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Cagaridek_aik & fritsch: ty06:06
jarskaWhat should I do if there happens an error while installing programs in package manager?06:07
CagariUSB modem in general seems so troublesome :(. And ethernet modem is very expensive at my place06:07
gnomefreakHawkwind: are you here?06:07
nearfarW: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D508806:07
nearfarfritsch: that's while doing apt-get update06:07
Hawkwindgnomefreak: Yeppers06:07
gnomefreakHawkwind: what version of kubuntu?06:07
fritschnearfar: no problem ;-)06:07
Hawkwindgnomefreak: 6.06 Dapper06:08
fritschnearfar: its okay06:08
gnomefreakbtw you can feel free to read your bug now ;)06:08
jarskaWhat should I do if there happens an error while installing programs in package manager?06:08
gnomefreakHawkwind: xchat/xchat-gnome is not installed with kubuntu06:08
fritschnearfar: if it disturbs you: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php06:08
fritschnearfar: just do apt-get upgrade and the new amarok should be installed06:08
gnomefreakHawkwind: they pulled all xchats from installing with it around flight 306:08
Hawkwindgnomefreak: Ahhh yeah.  But with the default sources, xchat-gnome gets installed06:08
Cagarifritsch: for the sudo dpkg. Where should the package be foundf for it to work?06:09
jarskaWhat should I do if there happens an error while installing programs in package manager?06:09
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fritschCagari: dpkg -i "absolute" path of package06:09
fritschCagari: but apt-get manages normally all this stuff for you06:09
gnomefreakHawkwind: shouldnt at all you would have to sudo apt-get install it. please run apt-cache policy xchat06:09
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gnomefreakHawkwind: what version and is it installed?06:09
Cagarifritsch apt-get gets the package from the net?06:10
uwohi all --- which is a good program for ripping dvds?06:10
nearfarfritsch: why is it install ruby?06:10
nearfar*installing06:10
fritschnearfar: it is used for the lyrics script06:10
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jarskaWhat should I do if there happens an error while installing programs in package manager?06:11
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naldhaha.... i've got the same problem06:11
jarskado you? :D06:11
jarskaguys, we need some help here :P06:12
naldyes, well i've got some downloading issues with the packages etc... but i have no clue how to fix this...06:12
Hawkwindgnomefreak: Right.  What I'm saying is....with the default sources that you get after an install of Dapper, if you go to apt-get install xchat, it installs xchat-gnome instead.  Why don't we have xchat in main instead of it being in universe ?06:12
lackdianthi, how can I install kde 3.5.4? do I have to set edgy eft repositories on my kubuntu06:12
djclue917jarska nald: what are the errors?06:12
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djclue917jarska nald: please use the pastebin by the way...06:12
Hawkwindgnomefreak: For Kubuntu I think xchat should be in main, and xchat-gnome should be in universe and vice-versa for Ubuntu06:12
gnomefreakHawkwind: ahhh that06:12
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gnomefreakHawkwind: that i cant answer atm but i will make sure it gets answered06:13
Hawkwindgnomefreak: So in the bug report, I guess I didn't make myself very clear :(06:13
naldsorry... pastebin?06:13
Hawkwindnald: http://pastebin.ca06:13
gnomefreakHawkwind: i wil fix it dont worry06:13
Hawkwindgnomefreak: I'll comment that info I just stated on the bug report06:13
naldok06:13
gnomefreakk06:13
djclue917lackdiant: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php06:14
gnomefreaksorry Hawkwind ive been playing with lots of bugs this morning ;)06:14
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Hawkwindgnomefreak: No problem.  I didn't make myself very clear on the original report06:16
jarskaThey say linux is simple and easy to use.... but it isn't!06:16
Healotwhy I am still using Windows when the heat is on the ice06:16
Hawkwindgnomefreak: I replied with a comment to clear things up a bit.  Hopefully that will help06:17
gnomefreaki see it06:17
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Pupeno_I have these iptables rules: http://pastebin.ca/127988 , does anybody know why I can't connect to http://localhost:8000/ (where I have a web server running) ?06:19
jarskafucking linux. nothing works as it  should.06:19
Pupeno_jarska: yes, Hurd is much better.06:20
nalddon't know how to get more info about the error :(06:20
jarskapupeno_ hurd?06:20
gnomefreakjarska: watch your language06:20
nearfarjarska: Nothing is Permanent06:20
nearfarfritsch: the new amaroK crashed! :(06:21
grotheskjarska: So how do you install?06:21
jarskagnomefreak lol, sry06:21
RadiantFireGNU/Hurd is nuts... barely anything works06:21
fritschnearfar: mmmh, backup your old "amarok settings" and try with new one06:21
RadiantFirethere are always the BSD's they always work well06:21
jarskagrothesk by package manager06:21
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grotheskWhich one jarska?06:21
jarskaadeps06:21
jarska*adept06:21
grothesk.k06:21
nearfarfritsch: hmm, it works the second time, but I don't see 'iPod' support06:22
gekko`klogd's cpu-usage is always around 80%. what could be the problem?06:22
fritschnearfar: it is working here since (mmmh very long)06:22
grotheskTry konsole then.06:22
fritschnearfar: now just plug in your ipod06:22
jarskaI've tried06:22
jarskawont work06:22
fritschnearfar: it will see "it"06:22
grotheskjarska: What error did konsole put out?06:22
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grothesk'wont work' is no error message i know of.06:22
jarskagrothesk hmm... hard to expalin it in english, because it's in finnish....06:23
nearfarfritsch: well, it doesn't. There is no 'devices' tab.06:23
jarskabut06:23
nearfarthere are only 4 - Files, Playlists, Collection and Content. fritsch06:23
jarskaIt says I have no Required disc space06:24
fritschnearfar: yes thats normal for the first time06:24
fritschnearfar: just plug out and rein your media player06:24
grotheskjarska: So your hdd is full.06:24
nearfareh?06:24
jarskagrothesk it isnt06:24
fritschnearfar: if not found, settings -> configure amarok -> media player06:25
nearfarfritsch: I'm trying that06:25
jarskagrothesk how could it be? Ive just installed linux, and it doesnt fill 10gb of disc space06:25
fritschnearfar: it norammly finds by just pluging in your device06:25
nearfarfritsch: ah works.06:26
grotheskjarska: On which hdd/partition is your linux installed?06:26
nearfarfritsch: but how do I 'sync'?06:26
fritschnearfar: just mark your files you want to transfair, right click "to media player"06:26
gnomefreakHawkwind: :)06:26
fritschnearfar: then click on media player and here on "transfaier"06:26
jarskagrothesk I'm not sure, but there is free disc space in every partition06:26
nearfarfritsch: I usually want the whole library to be synched.06:26
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nearfarfritsch: (some of which are already in the iPod)06:27
fritschnearfar: try ;-) you get it working :-)06:27
guyhi all, i am new in kubuntu and like it very much, but i can't install logitec quick camera driver, i dont see /dev/video0 mount, whats wrong?06:27
grotheskjarska: df -h | grep hd06:27
fritschnearfar: 1.4.1 has much more features than 1.3.9 - so what was working before should work now, too06:27
jarskagrothesk ill try06:27
guycan anyone help me?06:27
grotheskIt will tell you how much your hdd are used.06:27
fritschnearfar: have to help cooking :-)06:27
ninHerguy wich software are you using to run the webcam ?06:28
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guysoft from adept: qcam-usb06:28
nearfarfritsch: not working06:28
ninHerguy i mean software to run the wecam06:29
nearfarnothing happens after clicking on 'transfer'06:29
ninHergnomemeeting or so ?06:29
guyaaaaaaa06:29
Hawkwindgnomefreak: Many thanks.  I greatly appreciate it :)06:29
gnomefreaki take it you read it06:29
gnomefreaklol06:29
guycamorama06:29
Hawkwindgnomefreak: Yep06:29
jarskagrothesk 9,8 2,5 6,9 27%06:29
ninHerguy try using ekiga06:29
fritschnearfar: try it again :-) you are too fast for really trying06:30
nearfarfritsch: but there are music in transfer queue.06:30
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fritschnearfar: cool! now just click on transfair06:30
grotheskjarska: So there shold be plenty of space.06:30
gnomefreaki found out why it is that way (more than likely the reason) but ill keep up with it and monday if i see the maintainer i will ping him if i can06:30
nearfarfritsch: damn! how complex :)06:30
guywhen i started with linux i didnt think about all these problems06:30
jarskagrothesk yes, there is06:30
fritschnearfar: working?06:30
naldwhat are people using to watch DVDs?06:30
ninHerstep by step, guy06:30
nearfarfritsch: before that, how will it handle existing files?06:30
ninHerpatience to see the reward06:31
guyi tried with ekida- no camera detected06:31
ninHer:-)06:31
nearfarwill it create new version in iPod?06:31
fritschnearfar: don`t know ;-)06:31
grotheskjarska: Paste the output of 'sudo apt-get update' to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/06:31
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Hawkwindgnomefreak: Sounds good.  I do appreciate your attention to it :)06:31
guymaybe i sould compile kernel?06:31
nearfarfritsch: so if I want to 'sync' (the new files, which I may not know), it is not possible in amaroK?06:31
ninHerguy try gqcam packet also06:31
fritschnearfar: but there are cool plugins, so you can transfair ogg, mpc files, he "transKodes" this on the fly06:31
ninHerwich kernel are you using ?06:31
fritschnearfar: did it work before?06:31
guylast06:31
guy2.15.2606:32
nearfarfritsch: I fear to mess up with my existing music in iPod06:32
gnomefreakanytime thats one of my many tasks around here06:32
ninHerguy sufficient.....by large kernel :-)06:32
fritschnearfar: this could be possible :-)06:32
fritschnearfar: just wanted you show, that the new version is really cool06:32
guyhelp!!!06:32
ninHerguy are you using a 32 or 64 bit box ?06:32
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guy3206:32
nearfarfritsch: yes, it is. Thanks :)06:32
ninHernice06:32
nearfarfritsch: I will use banshee only for iPod sync.06:33
guyi have two comp- the same problem06:33
ninHerguy don't forget try gqcam packet also06:33
jarskagrothesk done06:33
grotheskjarska: The link?06:33
guycan some expert help me06:33
guyi have skype06:33
guy:)06:33
jarskagrothesk http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2038706:33
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ninHermmm, skype is not free software06:34
grotheskjarska: There ist adept still running.06:34
guydoes anybody speak russion here?06:34
guyninher its fre between computers06:35
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Pupeno_With firefox I can access http://localhost:8000/ but konqueror timesout, any ideas ?06:35
jarskagrothesk so what should i do06:35
lmosherWhen I open a .mpg file in firefox it uses a plugin to play the movie. It goes to a blank screen taht says (no picture) and then once the vid downloads it plays it. Which plugin is this?06:35
otaku-sanguy: some one speaking russian earlier06:35
grotheskjarska: close all programs dealing with installation.06:35
grotheskEspecially adept.06:35
ninHerguy i mean skype is not free software06:35
guyyou know, abter i descovered ubuntu, i dont want to use windows06:36
jarskagrothesk konsole too?06:36
bunkerwolfdoes anybody know a tool for speechcontrol?06:36
grotheskNo. We need konsole.06:36
jarskaok06:36
guymessanger?06:36
guy:)06:36
grotheskjarska: So run it again now.06:37
ninHera nice tool for I.M. is Kopete06:37
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jarskagrothesk u mean adept or konsole?06:37
ninHergive it a chance06:37
meta_hi all06:37
meta_please help me fast06:37
ninHerhi meta_06:37
meta_something ate up my hd06:37
guythere can i reed how to about drivers for dummies?06:37
grotheskjarska: I mean 'sudo apt-get update'06:37
guy::)06:37
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fritschmeta_: was it hungry?06:37
jarskagrothesk ok06:37
meta_2hour ago, i have 1.5gigs of free space06:37
fritschmeta_: did you install many programs?06:38
meta_it isn't humorous, because a piece of my work is lost06:38
fritschmeta_: try sudo apt-get clean06:38
meta_because it can't save06:38
fritschmeta_: wargh! okay06:38
meta_no06:38
jarskadone06:38
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meta_i'm only webdeveloped06:38
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fritschmeta_: sorry for being jokey then06:38
grotheskjarska: Any E: Errormessages?06:38
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ninHeralso some tools for backup Konserve06:38
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meta_okay not roblem, but please give me a tip06:38
flamesfanhey all06:38
meta_what i need to check06:39
jarskagrothesk hmm... :D no.06:39
guyanyone speak hebrew?::)06:39
jarskagrothesk i think06:39
redanyway i can get better resolution on my notebook06:39
grotheskjarska: Then do a 'sudo apt-get upgrade'06:39
redi have an ati mobility radeon x130006:39
meta_and again!!!06:39
meta_i have freed up 500mb06:39
meta_10minutes ago06:39
flamesfanhi Iam new to linux and Iam thinking about install kubuntu06:39
redkubuntu is nice06:39
meta_and at this time i have 160mb of free space06:39
jarskagrothesk done. then?06:39
redthats what im using06:39
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meta_please fast help me06:39
Lacertalo06:39
flamesfanand was wondering what is the lowest system it can be installed on06:40
grotheskjarska: I don't know what you was about to install...06:40
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flamesfankubuntu06:40
Lacertawhat's the file that has the iwconfig configuration?06:40
meta_hola06:40
meta_anybody06:40
meta_please ehlp me fast!^^06:40
jarskagrothesk java06:40
Lacertai need to change the wlan0 to ad-hoc mode every time i boot06:40
jarskagrothesk firstly sun java, then blackdown java06:41
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rahulis there a way to apply theme to the log off window anyone?06:41
grotheskjarska: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin sun-java5-jre06:41
fritschmeta_: it stills "deletes" sth. in the background?06:41
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Healotnext I am having Java myself, good coffee06:41
nalddoes anyone a program to play dvds?06:41
gnomefreakgrothesk: just sun-java5-plugin06:41
redanyway to get a a better screen resolution06:41
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fritschmeta_: pleas give a ps aux in pastebin please06:41
gnomefreakgrothesk: it will install -bin -jre06:42
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meta_fritsch: i'm from tty (for prevent more configuration and otehr file loss)06:42
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meta_i'm stopped lammp06:42
fritschmeta_: sorry no idea06:42
grotheskgnomefreak: Tried it earlier. Did not work for me.06:42
gnomefreakgrothesk: enable multiverse repos06:42
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thompahaving a faster newer computer processor really does not do much, i notice only a little difference in speed06:42
grotheskgnomefreak: I do have mutliverse06:42
jarskagrothesk then?06:43
gnomefreakplease apste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin06:43
jarskagrothesk i think there occured an error06:43
grotheskjarska: Do you want to develop in java?06:43
gnomefreaks/apste/paste06:43
jarskagrothesk why not... :D06:43
grotheskBecause you will need sun-java5-jdk then.06:44
jarskagrothesk konsole says E: broken packages06:44
Healotor use Solaris, since Java comes installed by default :006:44
naldjarska got the same E06:44
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RadiantFireweee for solaris...06:44
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grotheskjarska: Which one is broken?06:44
Tasc0Hello06:45
Healotthanks to canonical opensolaris is getting the heat06:45
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Tasc0Can anyone tell me how much space does Kubuntu use?06:45
jarskagrothesk sun-java5-bin?06:45
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Tasc0Can anyone tell me how much space does Kubuntu use?06:46
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naldive got all these packages that are not installable...06:46
jarskacagari not much06:46
rahulhow can one change the appearance of the log out window?06:46
jarskanald same here06:46
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Tasc0No one?06:46
naldsorry tasc0 i'm a newbe...06:47
gnomefreakTasc0: 2.6 gigs give or take a .2 gig06:47
jarskatasc0 not much?06:47
Tasc0Um06:47
jarskagrothesk can u fix my problem??? :D06:47
Tasc0Because I have SuSE in a partition of 3.1 G and I have 2Mb. left :(06:47
gnomefreakTasc0: 2 mb?06:48
Tasc0Yes06:48
jarskalol06:48
gnomefreakyour not putting ubuntu on that06:48
grotheskjarska: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin sun-java5-jre-bin06:48
grotheskjarska: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin sun-java5-bin06:48
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grotheskSorry06:48
Tasc0I was thinking on resinstalling SuSE and choose the size I want, but that may harm my Windows partition.06:48
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Tasc0HellO?06:49
jarskagrothesk doesnt work06:50
malickhi06:50
grotheskjarska: Doesn't work is no error message I would understand.06:50
grotheskPlease tell me WHAT is wrong.06:50
jarskagrothesk same problem... broken packages06:51
gnomefreakjarska: sudo apt-get -f install06:51
grotheskPaste it please06:51
jarskagrothesk here?06:51
grotheskNo!06:51
grotheskpastebin06:51
jarskaforgot the url :D06:51
gnomefreak!pastebin06:52
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)06:52
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jarskaand i think u dont understand finnish06:52
grotheskjarska: Look in the toppic.06:52
gnomefreakjarska: type in terminal sudo apt-get -f install06:52
grotheskjarska: I don't need to understand finnish.06:52
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gnomefreakjarska: let me know if it wants to remove/upgrade/install anything06:52
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jarskahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2038806:54
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jarskagnomefreak all 006:54
Administratorafter 1day uptime my  Timing buffered disk reads:  went wayy down... why?06:54
ShinzetsuI try to install Cedega, it says it needs, xlibs, when I try and install xlibs, it says Its not available and it gives me libxftl and xkeyboard-config06:54
Shinzetsulibxftl doesnt exist06:54
gnomefreakShinzetsu: try xlibs-dev06:55
jarskawhy is this so hard? installing programs should be a pe06:55
jarska*piece of cake06:55
grotheskjarska: Seems like you need multiverse.06:55
gnomefreakjarska: does that say that unixodbc is broken?06:56
grotheskjarska: It is that simple.06:56
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jarskagnomefreak i think so06:56
Shinzetsugnomefreak: already have that06:56
grotheskBut something is broken here, jarska06:56
gnomefreakjarska: try sudo apt-get install unixobdc06:56
jarskagrothesk orly :D06:56
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eamon!java06:57
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository06:57
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mpc1000!ruby06:57
ubotuI know nothing about ruby - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu06:57
Cagarihi anyone knows what is gcc? Seems i need it for build-essential06:57
mpc1000!rails06:58
ubotuI know nothing about rails - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu06:58
mpc1000boo06:58
jarskagnomefreak it couldn't find the package06:58
gnomefreakjarska: you need to enable multiverse repo06:58
gnomefreak!repos > jarska06:58
gnomefreakjarska: see your pm from ubotu06:58
ShinzetsuCagari: gcc is a C compiler06:59
jarskagnomefreak i have!06:59
gnomefreakjarska: are you sure you didnt enable the backports multiverse repo instead of multiverse main ...06:59
gnomefreakjarska: please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin07:00
jarskagnomefreak dunno :D this linux is like hebrew for me07:00
CagariShinzetsu: ty. How do i put it in kubuntu?07:00
gnomefreakCagari: install build-essential07:00
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ShinzetsuCagari: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers07:01
Shinzetsuget the linux headers for your kernel, itll give you a list07:01
Cagarioh btw.. i dunt have access to net on linux. I cant make my usb modem to work with it >>07:01
jarskagnomefreak http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2039007:01
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gnomefreakyou dont have a main repo07:02
gnomefreaklol07:02
jarskalol07:02
jarskahow should i know anything of repoes? Im still a beginner07:03
gnomefreakjarska: how did you open /etc/apt/sources.list file?07:03
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jarskagnomefreak via konqueror07:04
gnomefreakjarska: close it07:04
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gnomefreakjarska: open terminal and type kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list07:04
gnomefreakjarska: let me know when it opens07:04
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Gingillohi, i have a problem, when i am installing my copy of Kubuntu, the installation stops to "mounting root file system", i tryed to redownload and reburn the cd 3 times, but it dindt worked. Can someone help me? I'ts my first time with linux!07:05
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jarskagnomefreak done07:05
gnomefreakjarska: delete everything inside or it except the first line07:06
grotheskHave to go. CU!07:06
jarskacya07:06
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jarskagnomefreak done07:07
gnomefreakjarska: ok now go to this link in a browser http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/666607:07
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jarskagnomefreak then07:07
gnomefreakjarska: scroll down to bottom07:07
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tylersmithI'm having trouble installing amarok-1.4.1. I added "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14 dapper main"  in the adept "manage repositories." Then tried to find amarok 1.4.1. It didn't find it. What did I do wrong?07:08
zipper!ati07:08
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto07:08
gnomefreakyou see the texted int he white box?07:08
Gingillohi, i have a problem, when i am installing my copy of Kubuntu, the installation stops to "mounting root file system", i tryed to redownload and reburn the cd 3 times, but it dindt worked. Can someone help me? I'ts my first time with linux!07:08
gnomefreaktylersmith: check the repo again07:08
jarskagnomefreak done07:08
tylersmithgnomefreak: Thanks what does this mean?07:08
gnomefreakjarska: copy the text int he white box and paste it into your file thats open please hit enter 2 times after the first repo so the paste starts 2 lines below it07:09
gnomefreaktylersmith: hold on i think that repos is wrong07:09
gnomefreaktylersmith: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-141 dapper main07:10
jarskagnomefreak done07:10
Gingilloplease help me =(07:10
gnomefreakjarska: save and close07:10
gnomefreaktylersmith: you are missing a 1 int he repo07:11
jarskagnomefreak done07:11
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gnomefreakjarska: in terminal type sudo apt-get update07:11
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jarskagnomefreak: Done.07:11
gnomefreakjarska: when its done you might have updates07:11
gnomefreakjarska: any updates?07:12
jarskagnomefreak ok07:12
tylersmithgnomefreak: I checked "http://kubuntu.org/packages/" amarok-141 is there and is added in my repositories... Still can't find Amarok when I search for it with adept.07:12
jarskagnomefreak wait a sec.... it updated something07:12
gnomefreakjarska: ok07:12
gnomefreaktylersmith: your not using the " are you?07:12
jarskagnomefreak; it updated packagelist(s)07:13
tylersmithgnomefreak: Nope.07:13
gnomefreakjarska: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin07:13
asimontylersmith: Did you 'fetch updates' after adding this repo?07:13
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gnomefreaktylersmith: please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin07:13
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jarskagnomefreak: wow I think it works07:14
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klerfaytxset m 1 0 is the most precise? or is it xset m 1 1?07:14
tylersmithasimon: Yes. I did a fetch updates.07:14
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tylersmithWhere is the pastebin?07:16
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rajivhello everyone07:16
asimontylersmith: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/07:17
jarskagnomefreak: do i have to enabla and configure it if i want it to work as a firefox plugin?07:17
tylersmithgnomefreak: I did a gedit on /etc/apt/sources.list and found deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-141 dapper main  in the file.07:17
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Gingillognomefreak can you help me?07:18
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LynoureIf someone here has experience with setting up bluetooth sync for a Palm device, I could use your help. Does it really take all the stops from http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8185 ?07:18
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Gingillohi, i have a problem, when i am installing my copy of Kubuntu, the installation stops to "mounting root file system", i tryed to redownload and reburn the cd 3 times, but it dindt worked. Can someone help me? I'ts my first time with linux!07:19
gnomefreakGingillo: is this desktop cd that you are installing from?07:19
naldgnomefreak, it worked also for me ;) thanx a lot!07:19
gnomefreak!pastebin07:20
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)07:20
gnomefreaktylersmith: ^^07:20
gnomefreaknald: what did?07:20
zipperGingillo, Are you trying to install kubuntu on a laptop or a stationary pc?07:20
Gingillognomefreak: here it is the name of the installation cd "kubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso"07:20
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Gingillozipper: stationary pc07:20
naldi had the same prolbem as jarska07:20
gnomefreakGingillo: ok07:20
gnomefreaknald: ok cool07:20
tylersmithgnomefreak: What does ^^ mean? Did I offend you?07:20
gnomefreaktylersmith: no07:20
zippertylersmith, it's a smiley07:20
gnomefreaktylersmith: please put the file on pastebin. i had ubotu post the link for pastebin07:21
zippertylersmith, used by many (korean) starcraft players07:21
Healot^_^07:21
Healotmore like it07:21
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asimonI though it were just two arrows pointing upwards to the pastebin info ;-)07:21
gnomefreakGingillo: im not sure. maybe the md5sums dont match. maybe you didnt burn it on lowest speed07:21
gnomefreakasimon: it was07:21
zipperoh :)07:21
tylersmithgnomefreak: I put it in the pastebin. Am I supposed to add an address or something?07:22
rajivhey gingillo,i had a problem while installing kubuntu that it would hang while scanning for security repos,the prob was that my cd-rom after not reading for some time dies down n kubuntu installer isnt able to run it back up so the trick is to keep ur cd-rom busy,what i did was to open up konqueror n go thru all the documentation till the installation completed07:22
zipperHmm, anyone knows if there's a danish mirror for (k)ubuntu i could use in my repositories?07:22
Gingillognomefreak: i burned the cd 3 times with 3 different files, but at the max speed, must i try with the lowest? (i don't know what " md5sums" means07:23
gnomefreaktylersmith: click send than give me the new link it gives you07:23
zipperAfter messing around a bit, i now get this error whenever i install anything with apt-get : DESTROY created new reference to dead object ' Qt::VBoxLayout', <> line 1 during global destruction. - how can i fix this?07:23
gnomefreakGingillo: do you have the iso still saved?07:23
Gingillognomefreack: yea07:23
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Gingillo*freak :P sorry07:24
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gnomefreakok Gingillo in terminal type md5sum <name of iso>07:24
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Gingilloi am on windows :P it's the first time i try to use linux07:24
gnomefreakGingillo: than give me the output of it (it may take a while)07:24
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naldagain big thanx... i'm able to play dvds now... cu!07:24
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rajivhmmm Gingillo07:24
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rajivtry what i said07:24
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Gingillosorry can you query it to me? i did a cleanup :P07:25
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Gingillognomefreak:  i am on windows :P it's the first time i try to use linux..07:25
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rajivi had a problem while installing kubuntu that it would hang while scanning for security repos,the prob was that my cd-rom after not reading for some time dies down n kubuntu installer isnt able to run it back up so the trick is to keep ur cd-rom busy,what i did was to open up konqueror n go thru all the documentation till the installation completed07:25
Dr_Willis*the horror*07:25
Dr_Willis:P07:25
rajivGigillo read this07:26
Gingillook07:26
rajivsry Gingillo07:26
Dr_Willislol07:26
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rajivi mistyped07:26
Dr_Willisya know - its amazing how nasty many of these kde themes look.07:26
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apuhow it'spossible07:26
Gingillosorry rajiv i didnt understand vry well what i have to do07:27
apudu -h is seeing a folder07:27
apuand it's subfolders07:27
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apuin krusader or konq i'm not see that folder07:27
apus07:27
rajivwhile installing,just open up ur konqueror n keep pressing some links07:27
osh_Dr_Willis: Isn't it amazing that there isn't just themes that you can download and just set as the default? Most of them require "configure && make && make install" or some bullshit like that.07:27
rajivmake sure u keep ur cd-rom running07:27
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Dr_Willisosh_,  thats for the special effects features of the themes normally07:28
Gingillowhile installing? how do i open konqueror?07:28
Dr_Willisosh_,  but the kde 'get wallpapers from the web site' feature is nifty07:28
Gingillosorry for my newbity :P07:28
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nearfarthe fact kubuntu opens #kubuntu by default in Konversation has bought this many people here07:28
rajivquite true mearfar07:29
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osh_Dr_Willis: Might be. Still, there should be something similar for kde-themes as there is for superkaramba. Just point and click and stuff'll work. IMHO.07:29
rajivnearfar*07:29
gnomefreakGingillo: from the menu07:29
Gingilloby pressing f1?07:29
Gingillo*F107:29
gnomefreakGingillo: its a live cd so you should see a desktop with menu and everything07:29
GingilloO_O07:29
Gingillono i dont07:30
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gnomefreakGingillo: when you put the cd to boot from cd to isntall you should see the first item is start live cd or install07:30
Gingilloyes07:30
Gingilloi choose install07:30
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gnomefreakGingillo: choose that option and it should boot you into kde with a K in the lower left corner of screen07:31
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xwolf-!adsl07:31
ubotuSetting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE07:31
gnomefreakand 3 icons beside it07:31
Gingillook gnomefreak i'm going to try07:31
Gingillothanks07:31
rajivis there any place where i can d/w a collection of kd-themes bundled07:31
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rajivkde-themes*07:32
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jihihi, how can i setup update-grub, that it updates a menu.lst in /media/hda1/Grub/ and not in /root/Grub/ ?07:32
Dr_Willisosh_,  superkaramba is all python. not C/C++ as far as i know.. and you dont want to know the disasters ive had with Karamba/Superkaramba. :007:33
Dr_Willisosh_,  of course if everyone made .debs  for kubuntu - it would be best for us. Lol.07:34
osh_Dr_Willis: Probably not. I'm just saying that superkaramba is a great app that works as expected. It does things the way I'd like them to be done. :-)07:34
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osh_Dr_Willis: I just installed vmware to be able to make debs. Seems like not many in this channel knows how to make them so I'm a bit hard pressed to find help.07:35
Dr_Willisheh - ive rarely had superkaramba work as expected.. :P seems i always got to twiddle with the stuff.07:35
Dr_WillisIve never made debs either.07:35
Dr_Willisim too lazy07:35
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osh_Dr_Willis: there is a kubuntu-devel isn't there? Could that be the right place to ask for help about it? I've been creating redhat rpms for a living (part time anyway) so I'm no stranger to packaging. Just that I've never done debs before and they're a bit different.07:36
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Dr_Williskinstaller - application installer for KDE  - Hmm - is mentioned at the kde theme site... not tried that.07:36
Dr_Willis!apt-get07:37
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)07:37
Dr_WillisThe apt-get homepage has more docs then i can ever read. :P07:37
Dr_Willisother then that.. ive messed with rpms more then debs as well.07:37
osh_Dr_Willis: yes, i'm aware of the docs, but sometimes it just helps to ask someone. docs are great for some things but not for others.07:38
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rajivpeople,is there any other distro that i can try07:39
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osh_rajiv: mandriva. used to be the one true user-friendly distro.07:40
nearfarsuperkaramba doesn't work07:40
rajivbut mandriva aint free07:40
rajivits biased 2wards club members07:41
osh_rajiv: yes it is. it's just nagging you to become a member all the time. just ignore that. I run it on one machine. does it's job quite nicely.07:41
AgiosMandriva is free.07:41
rajivgentoo,arch dint run on my pc07:42
rajivany other good distro which instals packages frm source07:42
osh_rajiv: freebsd.07:42
rajivbut is bsd ,linux?07:43
Healotdebian/ubuntu can do that too, if you enabled the deb-src repos07:43
osh_rajiv: nope, it's bsd. but it's a good distro that installs from source.07:43
Agiosrajiv: http://distrowatch.com/07:44
Agiosabout 100 listed there, take your pick07:44
rajivi got lost browsing distrowatch07:44
rajivubuntu rockx but now im feeling kinda bored07:44
insanekanerajiv: ubuntu just isn't as exciting as a BSOD07:45
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pieterhello folks07:45
rajivhmmmm....07:45
rajivmayb ill try bsd07:45
pieteris there anyone who can help installing a Prism2 wireless PCMCIA card?07:46
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pieteranyone....?07:47
rajivsry pieter,i donno nythin about PCMCIA h/w07:48
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pieterwould you have a good tip where to look for info?07:48
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rajivgoogle07:49
rajivor ubuntuforums.org07:49
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sahasraradoes anyone know is a cisco modem/router a good choice for getting online with dialup?07:51
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sahasraraoops i think that's a dsl modem07:53
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flaccidis there a service manager in ubuntu07:53
flaccidcli07:53
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m_tadeuhi...i'm unable to boot from a kubuntu cd...bios is set for the cd first...its an old pc...whats wrong?07:54
rajivhow much is ur RAM07:55
intelikeyneed 128m ram to run the live07:55
Agiosflaccid: yes, I like sysv-rc-conf07:55
m_tadeuoh crap :D07:55
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rajiv128 for xfce,gnome n kde wont run unless 25607:56
flaccidAgios: install that by apt-get?07:56
Agiosflaccid: yep. apt-get install sysv-rc-conf07:56
Agiosit's similar to the old chkconfig script07:56
intelikeym_tadeu you can use hoary or breezy install cd  in as little as 64m   then update.07:56
KaiHanariIs there a gui app anywhere pre-installed for having programs start on log-in to KDE?07:57
intelikeyrajiv are you sure about kubuntu ?07:57
rajivBUM07:57
m_tadeui have 12807:57
rajivyup intelikey,it dint boot on my friends pc with 192mb ram07:57
intelikeyrajiv i installed kubuntu on this box with 192 so that don't wash07:58
Tm_TKaiHanari: there is, Konqueror07:58
rajivhmmm..........07:58
rajivM-tadeu,i u want to install kubuntu or ubuntu in 128mb ram,beter d/w alternate cd07:58
KaiHanariTm_T, eh? how?07:58
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AgiosKaiHanari: drag and drop to ~/.kde/Autostart ??07:58
flaccidthanks07:59
Tm_TKaiHanari: all you need to do is make links/scripts to ~/.kde/Autostart07:59
Tm_TI prefer scripts07:59
rajivhow come intelikey,his pc wont boot only at 192 mb ram07:59
KaiHanaribleh07:59
KaiHanarii meant EASY... gui. writing a guide for noobs07:59
m_tadeubut 128 is too small for kde is it?07:59
AgiosI figure if he asks for a GUI he's not into scripts :)07:59
intelikeyanyone know init ?07:59
intelikeyi'm in the wrong channel for that....08:00
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rajivm_tadeu,try installing frm alternate cd08:00
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m_tadeurajiv: yup..got that. but after installing, will kde run fine on 128MB?08:01
rajivit should,or so they claim08:01
rajivy dont u try xfce,its kewl08:01
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m_tadeu'cos my girlfriend likes kde ;)08:02
rajivwell if u love ur girlfriend so much,buy her another 128mb08:03
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rajivi donno for sure but they claim that kde will run on 128mb08:03
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m_tadeuits a kinda old pc...her new pc is on support, so its not worth it08:04
rajivim having 512mb ram,but kubuntu is leaving just 4-5mb free mainly coz of background applications,but ive read that its the most memory efficient dektop environment08:05
rajivbetter do a search on google or post ur query on forums,if someone has succeeded to run it then ull get to know08:05
KaiHanariI have run KDE on 32 MB ram, rajiv , m_tadeu , but it was not kubuntu. it was Red Hat 908:06
KaiHanariran quite nice08:06
rajivhey m_tadeu check this out,http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=310719,but its for hoary not dapper08:07
AgiosI can't imagine any GUI running nice in 32MB RAM. Even 512 is marginal anymore.08:07
rajivyup i agree08:08
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flaccidseet thats nice Agios08:09
KaiHanariAgios, well, it did. it was 2 years ago. it ran quite nice on 32mb ram, and 166 mhz proc.08:09
flaccidsweet08:09
zipper!grub08:09
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto08:09
flaccidthe sysv-rc-conf08:09
m_tadeugrub should show up anyway with 128MB...i don't think the memory is doing damage at this phase08:11
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m_tadeuthe live cd one, i mean08:15
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ubuntuhi all08:18
ubuntui'm installing kubuntu, and i have a question with partitioning08:19
ubuntuit asks me which partitions i want to use08:20
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ubuntuhehe, problem resolved08:21
ubuntusolved*08:21
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ubuntui had a swap and a root partition since a SuSE installation: have I to format them? both?08:22
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AgiosI would08:23
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ubuntuok, thanks Agios08:23
Agiosnp08:23
ubuntusee you08:23
toni_ciao08:23
HealotAgios for Strings08:24
toni_ciao08:24
toni_ciao08:25
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toni_ciao08:25
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AgiosHealot: ??08:25
zipper_Finally, my laptop is nearly working :)08:25
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Agioshalf of everything I have nearly works08:26
zipper_I have trouble with my soundcard. The speakers doesnt work at all, and when i plug in my headphones i can hear the sound, but it's very low and distorted. I have an asus a6r laptop, and i've used this guide for installing the driver : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76307. Any hints on what could be wrong?08:26
HealotAgios for Strings - DJ Tiesto08:27
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zipper_Agios, i've been working on this machine a few days now. Had to fix 3d acceleration, touchpad, touchpad scroll, WiFi card, power management. Sigh, now i'm down to only one thing : my soundcard08:28
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AgiosHealot: gotcha08:32
Agioszipper: I suspect you are using the wrong driver for your sound chip08:33
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Agioswhich to use I don't know08:35
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soonI asked before and NFS was recommended, but now Im not so sure ... I want to exchange files between to kubuntu boxes on a LAN ... both ways!08:38
soonis NFS the best solution? Should I have one client and one server or do I need to servers ensure I can exchange both ways?08:39
AgiosNFS is insecure anyway. I use Samba but it's not as easy to set up.08:39
AgiosNFS will work though.08:39
soonand does it make any difference which box is the server and which is the client?08:40
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zipper_Would anyone please take a look at my problem with my soundcard? I've explained it in details here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1372116#post137211608:44
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edmonhi all again08:44
soonhi08:44
edmoni have already installed kubuntu, but i would like to change the configuration of the GRUB. How can i do it?08:44
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Agiosedit /boot/grub/menu.lst08:45
zipper_!grub > edmon08:45
edmonthanks Agios and zipper_08:46
zipper_np08:46
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Agioszipper_: lspci | grep audio  and see what sound chip you have08:48
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edmonwell, i have found another problem: i can loggin like admin in the terminal08:48
rebarnedhello to all08:48
edmoni write the password I put in the installation, and it says it's incorrect08:49
Agiosedmon: you use your normal user to login then sudu for root operations08:49
rebarnedCan someone tell me, how can I build QtWvDialer on Kubuntu 6.06?08:49
edmonsudu?08:49
rebarnedI have build-essential & checkinstall08:49
edmoni tried su08:50
Agiosuse sudo08:50
rebarnedBut, ./configure says, that08:50
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edmonAgios:  well, i logged with sudo su, but could you explain me the difference between su and sudo su? please08:50
rebarned*******************************************************************************08:50
rebarned QTDIR is not set. This package requires a correctly set up08:50
rebarned qt. To get qt visit http://www.trolltech.com08:50
rebarned*******************************************************************************08:50
rebarnedBut I have qt on my system, 'coz I have kde =)08:51
rebarnedHow can I solve this problem???08:51
Dr_WillisQTDIR is not set08:51
zipper_Agios, i have a bcm4318 chip afaik... let me paste the output in that thread08:51
Dr_Willissee what its set to. :P08:51
Agiosedmon: well, you could man sudo and read about it, but sudo executes a single command as root. That single command can be su.08:51
rebarnedHow can I do that? =)08:52
asimonrebarned: you need also have libqt3-mt-dev installed, and before calling configure, do 'export QTDIR=/usr/share/qt3'08:52
Dr_Willisits not set here either. :P08:52
zipper_Agios, hmm, apparently i dont have a  soundcard now at all08:52
Agioszipper_: that would be a problem alright :) Leave off the grep and just lspci and look for it manually.08:52
zipper_Agios, tried that already, i cant find it. I can find something i *thing* might be the soundcard, however it listed as Unknown device08:53
rebarnedoh tnx =)08:53
zipper_Agios, hmm, could it be listed as a "SMBus" device?08:54
zipper_nevermind08:54
Agiosnot likely, no08:54
zipper_just saw it was marked "Ati"08:54
Agioswell, it might be08:54
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Agiospaste that line here08:54
zipper_0000:00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 SMBus Controller (rev 82)08:55
zipper_there is also two ati unknown devices, Host bridge and a PCI bridge08:55
AgiosI thnk the sound system hangs off those but they themselves are not it.08:56
zipper_Hmm, i really cant make out what's supposed to be the soundcard08:56
zipper_let me put it in a pastebin08:57
Agiosalso do: lsmod | grep snd08:57
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Agiosand paste that08:57
Cagarihi does anyone knows where to get libc6 2.3.6-6?08:57
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zipper_Agios, http://pastebin.dk/index.php?show=198608:58
AgiosI used to buy nothing but ASUS MB's and finally switched to something else because of squirelly problems like this.08:59
asimonCagari: Did you try http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glibc/ ?08:59
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djk_Agios: and yet you don't even remember the name of 'something else' :p09:00
zipper_Agios, i knew there was going to be a lot of problems getting linux on this machine when buying it. But the price and the performance/quality was exactly what i was looking for09:00
Cagariasimon: no i did not know ty.09:00
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zipper_Agios, i figured i might as well give it a try09:01
Cagari2.3.6-6 not supported by ubuntu :\09:01
Cagaritrying to put packages without internet connection is a terrible headache.09:01
zipper_Agios, got any idea on what i should do?09:01
Agiosstill looking09:02
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Agiosdjk_: ECS :)09:02
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zipper_Agios, okay, thanks a lot mate. Take your time09:03
Agioszipper_: have you tried simply using the oss driver in kcontrol?09:03
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zipper_uhm, no09:04
zipper_let me give that a shot09:04
zipper_oh wait09:04
zipper_yeah, i've tried that09:04
zipper_alsa and oss can playback, but no sound from speakers, and very low/distorted in headphones09:04
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zipper_i think it's driver related09:05
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Agiosboth oss and alsa do the same thing?09:05
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MrBallZhi, I have a question, where can I enable " Size View" for Konqueror, it seems I can't find it anywhere, it's not on  the " View " menu ...09:06
zipper_Agios, yes09:07
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asimonMrBallZ: do you mean View->View Mode->File Size View ?09:10
Agios437b  SB450 HDA Audio09:11
MrBallZasimon: yes, that same one , I don't have it ...09:12
MrBallZI'm using dapper 6.06 ...09:12
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asimonMrBallZ: of it's not there you need to install konq-plugins , that package contains several plugins for konquerer, including hte file size view09:13
MrBallZasimon: in one comp I have KDE 3.5.4  and in the other one I have 3.5.3  , and  I don't have it in either one09:13
MrBallZasimon: Thnx09:13
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zipper__Agios, i'm sorry, it got disconnected. You asked if both alsa and oss is doing the same thing and yes, they are09:15
Agioshmmm09:15
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AgiosI may have found something. Not sure yet.09:15
Agiosnm09:15
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Agioszipper_:  Do a google search from linux.google.com for: ATI SB450 sound09:17
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zipper__Agios, according to the specifications of my laptop, i have an AC'97 soundcard09:19
zipper__Agios, you sure ATI SB450 is the right one?09:19
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AgiosI think AC'97 is a supported feature, not a model. Mine is AC'97 too.09:20
zipper__i see09:20
zipper__thanks, i'll try looking up that ati thing09:21
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Agioshttp://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Debian/2005-07/3164.html09:21
Agiossimilar problem on similar hardware09:21
zipper__thanks again09:21
zipper__all help is greatly appriciated09:22
asimonAFAIK ac97 is a analog/digital decoder.09:22
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LeeJunFananyone here using ktorrent 2.0 final? Where'd the d@!# plugins go?09:22
Healotit's a feature not a model... heh09:22
zipper__Agios, doesnt look like he found a solution =/09:23
dhqhow do i update ktorrent09:23
Agiosnope09:23
asimonLeeJunFan: What do you mean with where do they go? You find them under Settings->Configure ktorrent->Plugins09:23
AgiosI have seen a lot of kernel patches to the ATI SB450 kernel modules though. A more recent kernel might or might not help.09:24
LeeJunFanasimon: mine's empty. I tried the package from ktorrent's page and also compiling from src - no plugins.09:24
Agiosgotta go for a bit. bbl09:24
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zipper__Agios, okay, thanks09:24
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Agiospoke around some of those hits. If you think a kernel upgrade will help I'll show you how to do it.09:25
|lostbyte|Hi guys :)09:25
asimonLeeJunFan: Oh, I use the package from Edgy, and there the plugins are there.09:25
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LeeJunFanasimon: hrm, guess I'll try that. odd.09:25
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|lostbyte|LeeJunFan, Is the ktorrent 2.0 ver in the repos ? Already..09:26
|lostbyte|LeeJunFan, i Dont see it ?09:26
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LeeJunFanasimon, |lostbyte| : looks like thats an old version in there.09:27
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zipper__Agios, i know how to install a new kernel, i just really dont feel like it09:27
|lostbyte|LeeJunFan, Sad..09:27
asimonLeeJunFan: Edgy has version 2.0-0ubuntu209:27
zipper__Agios, usually involves a lot of work09:27
LeeJunFanI wonder if it got moved to main with edgy? it's not in universe.09:27
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asimonLeeJunFan: It's in main09:28
LeeJunFanasimon, |lostbyte| : yeah, it's in main.09:28
asimonLeeJunFan: It's even part of the default installation09:28
|lostbyte|LeeJunFan, I just updated the repos, LEt me try again..09:29
LeeJunFanasimon: cool -thanks. Perhaps I might try edgy soon anyway.09:29
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asimonLeeJunFan: Be ready for some breakage if you try it ;-)09:29
LeeJunFanasimon: as usual.09:29
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LeeJunFanI'm used to running devel.09:30
asimonLeeJunFan: But the package on the ktorrent website should have the plugins, that is really strange.09:30
crazy_penguinGood evening all! :)09:30
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LeeJunFanasimon: yeah, and edgy's package leaves unresolved deps for dapper. I'll take a look at the source and see what's up.09:31
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asimonLeeJunFan: you probably need to rebuild it09:31
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LeeJunFanasimon: yeah, must be broken makefile. I went into plugin dir and make installed and they are all there now - they got compiled, but not installed.09:33
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asimonLeeJunFan: They should be installed under /usr/lib/kde3/09:34
LeeJunFanasimon: now I'm still missing the file status info that's normally located below the list of torrents.09:35
asimonLeeJunFan: you must enable the infowidgetplugin for this09:36
LeeJunFanasimon: ah - I'm still missing that one.09:36
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karstenhallo09:36
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asimonLeeJunFan: I think it's the file /usr/lib/kde3/ktinfowidgetplugin.[so|la09:37
LeeJunFanasimon: yeah, it's in the dir - just not being recognized.09:38
asimonLeeJunFan: Hmm, I fear I have no idea why that would be.09:39
LeeJunFanasimon: heh, me either - every other plugin works.09:40
asimonLeeJunFan: Do you have also the file /usr/share/services/ktinfowidgetplugin.desktop installed?09:40
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LeeJunFanasimon: yep.09:40
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asimonLeeJunFan: Those infos are overrated anyway, somewhen the download will (hopefully) be finished. That's all that matters. ;-)09:41
LeeJunFanasimon: yeah, but when it's multipart dl's it's nice to know which parts are finished.09:42
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dhqi cant run any audio application when i am using skype09:46
LeeJunFandhq: that's because skype claims use of the audio device directly rather than using a sound daemon like arts (which shares).09:47
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Agioszipper: I can pull in a new kernel from kernel.org and be up and running on it in an hour :)09:48
zipperAgios, the download would for me probably take more than an hour itself :P09:49
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zipperwould be damn nice to get it working though, but i really hope there's an other solution than compiling a new kernel09:49
Agioswell, there might be but I haven't found anyone with a solution yet.09:50
dhqLeeJunFan: so what do i do09:50
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zipperAgios, same here... i guess i can only hope for it to get some attention from the driver writers in the near future09:50
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LeeJunFandhq: I'm not sure what others might be doing to get around that, I don't use skype myself.09:51
LeeJunFanasimon: got it working now - apparently it didn't like being installed in /usr/local for 2 plugins, in prefix=/usr now and it's working fine.09:51
zipperit's like a thorn in my eye... _Everything_ else works, but my soundcard, how rediculous is that? :P09:51
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asimondhq: you may try to start skype via 'artsdsp skype', that tries to route sound output from skype through arts, but I don't know if that works with skype.09:52
osh_So, if I've updated to kde3.5.4 and some localizations broke, where do I report that? launchpad.net? kde.org? nowhere?09:52
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dhqasimon: ok thanks09:52
Agioszipper: if it wren't a laptop you could plug a $10 sound card in it and be done with it :)09:52
dhqasimon: will try09:52
Agiosor is it a laptop?09:53
asimonLeeJunFan: Ah, yes, mixing prefixes for KDE stuff is a bad idea.09:53
zipperAgios, yes, it is a laptop09:53
MrBallZwho has problems with skype ?09:54
asimonosh_: Usualy launchpad. If you are sure that it's an upstream bug (i.e. not related to ubuntu packaging) than you can also report it directly upstream at bugs.kde.org09:54
zipperAgios, also, i just read a guide that indicated that it's an ATI SB400 device i've got in it09:54
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osh_asimon: i'm not sure of anything. I just noticed that I no longer have localized text in kopete.09:55
asimonosh_: just report it to launchpad's malone.09:55
dhqasimon: when i type "artsdsp skype" skype opens when i start a call it just closes09:56
osh_asimon: will do.09:56
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asimondhq: Okay, that means that doesn't work. Sorry.09:56
dhqasimon: so that means i cant do anything bout it09:56
asimondhq: That trick worked a couple of years ago for doom and quake ;-)09:57
asimondhq: Well, at least nothing I know of.09:57
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LeeJunFanasimon, dhq: yeah, I've had bad lucking using artsdsp with anything full duplex - teamspeak as well.09:57
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dhqasimon: thanks anyways09:57
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Agioszipper: could be. The pci id that lspci showed mapped to a SB450 though. Some of the kernel issues were misidentification of the devices though.09:58
Agiosstill, SB400 and SB450 may well use the same driver.09:58
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jmichaelxwould there be a way to restore the my display settings to what they were when i first installed kubuntu?09:59
jmichaelxwithout re-installing.....09:59
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LeeJunFanjmichaelx: dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver10:00
guillerp10:00
jmichaelxLeeJunFan: ty10:00
dhqis bluetooth headset compatible in kubuntu10:00
LeeJunFanjmichaelx: you might want a -p option in there - man dpkg-reconfigure to read more of what it does.10:00
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fdovingdhq: i have a plantronics 640, i can use it with the snd-bt-sco module.10:01
jmichaelxLeeJunFan: i think i will just reinstall (again)10:01
osh_Why isn't there a "report bug" link in the menu here? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+package/kopete10:01
dhqfdoving: i can use it with skype too10:01
windwhat do i need to download to get the trailers on apple.com to work10:02
windand the trailers on imdb.com10:02
fdovingdhq: i haven't tested much, used it to listen to music once, just to check if it worked. :)10:02
LeeJunFanjmichaelx: I'd try reconfigure first - it's pretty simple and if you hose it works you learn something other than how to re-install.10:02
jmichaelxwind: i think mplayer will play those fine10:02
LeeJunFanjmichaelx: if it works that is - you learn something else.10:02
jmichaelxLeeJunFan: i know i should try it, but i don't have all afternoon10:03
dhqi cant run any audio application when i am using skype10:03
asimonosh_: I dunno, you can use https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs , there is a 'report bug' link at the left top.10:03
windwhat about play them through firefox10:04
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LeeJunFanjmichaelx: dpkg-reconfigure -p critical xorg-xserver10:04
LeeJunFanjmichaelx: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -p critical xorg-xserver10:04
Tommy!flash10:04
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:04
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jmichaelxLeeJunFan: when i boot-up kubuntu, it loads everything but then just gives me the screen with the kubuntu logo (kde does not start), is there a way to get a command line/terminal from there?10:05
yamalis it possible to set k3b to not automatically calculate the md5 sum when selecting an image for burning?10:05
LeeJunFanjmichaelx: ctrl-alt-f1 or f2, etc.. should get you to a vty10:05
jmichaelxwind: you will need to mplayer firefox/mozilla plugin. you can find that in adept or synaptic10:05
jmichaelxLeeJunFan: ty again, i will give this a try10:06
windwhat would i be looking for?10:06
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asimonyamal: Not that I know, but you don't have to wait for it to finish, you can just go on10:06
yamalasimon: I know... but it annoys me :)10:07
yamalslows down the system quite a bit10:07
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jmichaelxLeeJunFan: it tells me that xorg-xserver is not installed lol10:08
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osh_asimon: odd, I reported it under "kopete" but the bug is filed under "kdenetwork". Oh well, as long as it works...10:09
LeeJunFanjmichaelx: sry - xserver-xorg10:09
asimonosh_: That's okay, kdenetwork is the name of the source package where kopete comes from.10:09
asimonosh_: The bug tracker always uses the source package name, which can be a little bit confusing10:10
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osh_Heh, sweet. I've got 61000 karma points in launchpad. Wonder what those are for.10:10
osh_asimon: Ok. Thanks for the tip.10:10
asimonosh_: The karma is for your bug reports/comments and translations. :-)10:11
osh_asimon: are they good for anything? can I use karma-points to vote for which bugs should be fixed first or something? or are they just stroking my ego?10:13
jmichaelxwind: did you look for mplayer in adept? you should find the firefox plugin listed there10:13
windgot it, thanks10:13
jmichaelxno problem10:13
asimonosh_: Just for our big egos ;-)10:13
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jmichaelxLeeJunFan: you are awesome, my computer is back to normal10:14
jmichaelx:-D10:14
LeeJunFanjmichaelx: yer welcome. :)10:14
osh_asimon: oh, ok. would be nice if they were good for something though.10:15
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asimonosh_: if you have 10.000.000 Mark Shuttleworth will invite you out to dinner ;-)10:17
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osh_asimon: not that keen on men. Pass. ;-)10:18
zipper!ssh10:18
ubotussh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/10:19
northstarwhen amarok attempts to play an mp3 it begins to play, but then jumps to the next song on the playlist... any ideas?10:19
mpc1000anyone do any ruby/ruby on rails development on kubunut?10:19
mpc1000err kubuntu10:19
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jmichaelxnorthstar: do you have your codecs installed?10:19
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northstaryea i believe so10:20
jmichaelxhmmm10:20
northstarjmichaelx: xmms will play the files10:20
LeeJunFannorthstar: apt-get install libxine-extracodecs10:20
mpc1000rid yourself free of windows apps :P10:20
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bigbill52awireless fails to work with kubuntu, but works fine with pclinuxox...i would prefer kubuntu10:20
jmichaelxyou may also want to see if you have the latest version of amaroK from the repos10:21
LeeJunFannorthstar: amarok uses xine (by default) for decoding, you need the libxine-extracodecs for libxine to decode mp3's.10:21
jmichaelxbigbill52a: what chipset does your card use?10:21
bigbill52athe very same program finds it in pclinuxos..but doesnt find it kubuntu10:21
bigbill52azydas10:21
northstarLeeJunFan: for some reason libxine-extracodecs isn't in my repository...10:21
LeeJunFan!repos > northstar10:21
northstarLeeJunFan: i have "universe" enabled as well10:21
jmichaelxi don't know anything about zydas10:22
bigbill52awireless assistant works fine in pclinuxos10:22
zipper!ftp10:22
ubotuFTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd10:22
LeeJunFannorthstar: hrm.10:22
bigbill52ait is a usb adapter10:22
zipper!pure-ftpd10:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pure-ftpd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:22
zipper!ftpd10:22
ubotuFTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd10:22
northstarLeeJunFan: could they have changed the name these codecs are listed under?10:22
LeeJunFannorthstar: it's in multiverse10:23
northstarLeeJunFan: grr..10:23
northstarLeeJunFan: k, give me second10:23
jmichaelxbigbill52a: you may have to google that one, or look in the forums10:24
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jmichaelxi know a lot of usb adapters won't work.... i have a few, but have not tried very hard to get them working10:24
asimonIs there a list of commandos ubotu accepts (i.e. stuff like !repos)?10:25
LeeJunFanubotu sucks now - no help available?10:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sucks now - no help available? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:25
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aliasfred!help10:26
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage10:26
asimonthanks10:26
mcflyvous connaissez un bon utilitaire pour DL sur les newsgroup pour KDE?10:26
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northstarLeeJunFan: still not coming up...10:27
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aliasfred!fr10:27
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.10:27
LeeJunFannorthstar: did you apt-get update?10:27
northstarLeeJunFan: yea10:27
northstarLeeJunFan: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse10:27
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northstarLeeJunFan: thats the repository i am using10:28
LeeJunFannorthstar: me too.10:28
LeeJunFannorthstar: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/x/xine-extracodecs/10:29
northstarLeeJunFan: thanks10:29
LeeJunFannorthstar: perhaps just xine-extracodecs?10:29
northstarLeeJunFan: was looking for that10:29
asimonnorthstar: this line is for dapper-backports, you need to add multiverse to the dapper (not the backport) line too10:30
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northstarasimon: k let me take another look10:31
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northstarasimon: that worked, thanks10:33
northstarLeeJunFan: thanks for the help10:33
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neuraloverloadHello again10:33
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ArkkisHey, what could be causing kubuntu to overwrite /etc/resolv.conf every now and then with wrong DNS ip?10:35
Dr_WillisArkkis,  ive seen that happen befor.10:35
northstarLeeJunFan and asimon: spoke to soo... amarok still won't play my mp3s10:35
osh_Arkkis: dhcp?10:35
sergiusensArkkis: resolvconf10:36
Dr_WillisArkkis,  not sure what the deal is - but i think its mentioned in the wiki/forums10:36
pushpopwhats the command to show your processes?10:36
Arkkisosh_, yes, but my dhcp servers dns is not functional, even if it thinks so10:36
Dr_Willispushpop,  'ps'10:36
pushpopthx10:36
LeeJunFannorthstar: hrm. is this a fresh install or a breezy update?10:36
Agiosanyone have a favoritre 4GB USB stick that's 200x?10:36
pushpopDr_willis: if I wanted to kill x10:36
LeeJunFanupgrade10:36
pushpopwhat would be the command10:36
Dr_Willispushpop,   just alt-ctrl-backspace :P10:37
northstarLeeJunFan: ok... nvm for some weird reason amarok has now decided to work..10:37
Dr_Willismuch easier10:37
northstarLeeJunFan: thanks again :)10:37
LeeJunFannorthstar: cool.10:37
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pushpopthanks10:37
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cyber_brain_mfkgI don't have addon managemen in settings in KVIRC !!! how to install it - i've downloaded addon but i cant install it without Addon Management dialog!!!10:38
cyber_brain_mfkganybody????10:38
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Dr_Willischeck the kvirc homepage yet?10:39
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MagicJohnHi all - I've a problem while installing Kubuntu from the CD. I booted into Kubuntu (6.06) and from there hit 'Install' on the desktop. All is good until the partitioning section. I left some free space on my hard disk, but it is hidden, and the installer won't let me unide it or create any paritions in it.10:40
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Dr_Willishidden? Hmm10:40
MagicJohnYea - all I can click on when it's selected is 'Property'10:40
Dr_Williscould use fdisk from the shell/console to unhide it. but ive never seen 'hidden' affect anything.10:40
MagicJohnYea, it puzzled me too. Ok thanks10:41
Dr_Willisor just delete it.. and let the installer auto parttion it.10:41
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MagicJohnIt's free space10:41
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MagicJohnThat's what gets to me10:41
Dr_Willisyou mean 'unallocated' ?10:42
MagicJohnType = 'free'10:42
MagicJohnI just used Acronis to resize other partitions to make some free space10:42
Ita_andyhi guys10:42
MagicJohnBut I can't create, delete, resize, or do anything with this free space except view its properties10:42
Dr_Willisif its not in any partition, then its  'unallocated' :P heh..10:42
Ita_andyand girls of course if any :-)10:43
Dr_Willisyou need to make a partition tht will contain the  unallocated space.10:43
osh_MagicJohn: I've seen something similar. I had something like that when I did a parted-thing on my disk. Something about not ending on a cylinder border or something like that.10:43
MagicJohnAny ideas about how to fix it?10:43
Dr_Willisosh_,  oh yea.. seen that ages ago.10:43
MagicJohnThere is no partition there.10:43
MagicJohnBtw, what's the default password for su ;)10:43
MagicJohnOh doh, sudo, silly me10:44
neuraloverloadLol10:44
osh_MagicJohn: perhaps change the size of it again, but I think I fixed it on my box by reformatting since there were some other things I had to do with it as well.10:44
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MagicJohnCan't really format anything here, I want to dual boot this machine with an existing windows installation :\10:45
Ita_andyanybody knows of a screen capture tool for linux ?10:46
jmichaelxthis may seem totally silly to some people, but i would recommend burning a copy of the gparted live CD, and get your partitions the way you want them BEFORE installing your OS....  it has saved me some hair pulling10:46
MagicJohnIt's labelled as /dev/sda-1 if that's any help (that also confuses me a bit)10:46
MagicJohnEven though it's meant to be free space.10:46
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jmichaelxMagicJohn: download and burn the gparted live CD, and use that, then install kubuntu10:46
MagicJohnjmichaelx: this machine had an oem-installed XP ;)10:46
osh_MagicJohn: Just what I had. Have you tried to resize it or move it around some?10:46
Dark_Oppressorive got twinview, but my games are in the middle of the monitor.  I made another metamode, but is there a way to switch to the new one?10:46
pekay!xgl10:47
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems10:47
MagicJohnjmichaelx: Booted from a CD before loading kubuntu and partitioned it a bit10:47
stefano#ubuntu-it10:47
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jmichaelxMagicJohn:  that is ok, i still recommend it..... i have used it on 4 different machines with pre-installed xp, and they all dual boot, and i am so n00b it is scary10:47
Ita_andyubotu was that a reply to my question ?10:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about was that a reply to my question ? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:47
Ita_andyhi stefano10:47
MagicJohnGonna try creating a partition in that space with fdisk and removing it10:47
MagicJohnIf that doesn't work, I'll use your approach jmichaelx :)10:48
Ita_andylol it was a bot :-)10:48
jmichaelxMagicJohn: cool.... it is nice to have the gparted live CD around anyways. it is as good as partition magic, in my opinion, if not better10:48
aliasfredIta_andy: screen capture = screen shot or screencast ?10:48
MagicJohnjmichaelx: GParted can resize ntfs and all that?10:49
jmichaelxMagicJohn: yup10:49
zipperI'm using the guide on the wiki in order to install pureftpd. I installed it okay, the gui configuration seems to work, but i cannot login on any user. I can however login with my default user. What gives? I used useradd to add the users.10:49
jmichaelxMagicJohn: if you have broadband, it would only take you 5 minutes or so to download the gparted is10:50
jmichaelxiso*10:50
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MagicJohnMaybe I'll just do the whole thing in fdisk10:53
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LeeJunFanzipper: what did you set the shell to with useradd?10:58
LeeJunFanzipper: the shell for the user -s [shell]  in useradd has to be one of those found in /etc/shells for them to be able to login via ftp.10:59
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pekayis there a tutorial for XGL for Kubuntu users?11:00
eitch0000does anyone know why HD-trailers are so choppy? I've tried with a nvidia and ATI card both don't seem to be able to handle the load... any special codecs neccassary?11:01
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MrBallZhey, I have some packages that are kept back from upgrading, how do i force upgrade from command line ?  dpkg -i -f ???11:01
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eitch0000MrBallZ: apt-get dist-upgrade?11:02
MrBallZstill some packages are kept back ...11:02
MrBallZI remember there's a way with dpkg ...11:02
MagicJohnman dpkg11:02
eitch0000with dpkg there are --force-xxx options check out which is the one you want11:03
jmichaelxeitch0000: i just tried to view an HD trailer on apple and it crashed firefox, lol. right now it seems like everything crashes firefox in linux11:04
Dr_Willis--force-xxx ? is that how i get the porn!11:04
Dr_Willis:P11:04
Dr_Willisjmichaelx,  whats the url? :P  let me try!11:04
Dr_Willis:)11:04
jmichaelxapple.com11:05
eitch0000jmichaelx: hehe.... well on my pc firefox actually never fails... ok if I keep watching the choppy trailer then I think it will crahs but otherwise I only have problems with HD-trailers11:05
eitch0000Dr_Willis: yeah... s'ppose11:05
pekayis there a tutorial for XGL for Kubuntu users?11:06
jmichaelxok i am trying it again, so far no crash, but very choppy11:06
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Dr_WillisLinux is growing! expanding! evoloving!11:07
Dr_Willis:P11:07
eitch0000jmichaelx: ahh well... I suppose there just isn't a decent codec out yet... at least not that I saw on the ubuntu wiki's... maybe gotta search some more...11:07
Dr_Willisevery crash just makes it stronger!11:07
eitch0000Dr_Willis: yeah... as in what doesn't kill makes you stronger?11:07
jmichaelxeitch0000: there has ro be a way to fix this.... i have mepis on another PC and those trailers play fine in mepis. i have never been able to get them to work in kubuntu11:07
jmichaelxDr_Willis: i agree11:08
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eitch0000jmichaelx: well then... I have to find what the problem is =))11:08
zipper_I'm using the guide on the wiki in order to install pureftpd. I installed it okay, the gui configuration seems to work, but i cannot login on any user. I can however login with my default user. What gives? I used useradd to add the users.11:08
kb5iavhello all11:08
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eitch0000jmichaelx: mepis? what is that?11:08
kb5iavJust got Ubuntu running11:09
eitch0000kb5iav: well done =))11:09
soulrider_hi everyone11:09
kb5iavit's running on an old clunker11:09
jmichaelxmepis is another linux OS..... very similar to kubuntu, and as of a few weeks ago even uses ubuntu packages.... but i think multimedia just works better in mepis11:09
jmichaelxkb5iav: i love linux on old clunkers11:10
soulrider_i gto a small question, i downlaodee eclipse as a tar.gz, where should i extract the files to so when i type "eclipse" in my console eclipse is launched?11:10
eitch0000well... I'm not switching... so I have to find out how to fix it...11:10
kb5iavI'm running it on an AMD k6-2 400mhz with 384MB RAM11:10
jmichaelxkb5iav: i have xubuntu running on a very similar box11:10
soulrider_how well odes it run ?11:10
jmichaelxit runs great, in my opinion11:11
kb5iavnot too bad I guess, I've only had it for a little while11:11
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kb5iavI haven't tried the sound yet, no speakers hooked up11:11
kb5iavThe box also has a 20GB hard drive, a Creative Soundblaster Live! Value soundcard11:11
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soulriderany ideas about my question? :P11:11
fritschsoulrider: extract it, wherever you want11:12
fritschsoulrider: make a symlink to /usr/loca/bin/11:12
eitch0000soulrider: why you download the source? need a newer version that you can get from apt-get?11:12
jmichaelxkb5iav:i just wish my old amd-k6 2 didn't have this crappy integrated SiS video card11:12
kb5iavAn ATI RADEON VE 64mb Video card, and a Macronix 10/100 pci Ethernet card11:12
soulrideri got it from apt-get11:12
soulriderbut it just wont run11:12
soulriderso screw it11:12
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soulrideri got it compiled from their site11:12
kb5iavIt took around 45 minutes to install Ubuntu on here11:13
fritschsoulrider: compiled? it` s a binary, or?11:13
soulriderbinary yea.. i think :P11:13
kb5iavit's telling me there are 161 updates available, I wonder if I should downloade them.11:13
fritschsl11:13
fritschsoulrider: just extract it11:13
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fritschsoulrider: make a symlink to /usr/local/bin/11:13
soulrideri think i extarcted it to11:13
jmichaelxkb5iav: i bought an nvidia video card for my amd k6 2, but i cannot for the life of me get it to work..... there is no way to turn the integrated card off11:14
fritschsoulrider: lol11:14
jmichaelxeitch0000: you there?11:14
fritschjmichaelx: jumper?11:14
soulrideri think i extracted it to /url/local/eclipse/ that isnt a bad idea right? :P11:14
kb5iavI tried downloading them last night, but the system hung on download and wouldn't reboot, wonder if I should have just let it finish the updating11:14
fritschsoulrider: mmmh, mmmh don`t mess with none distro files in /usr11:14
kb5iavthe word is Nvidia cards work well with Ubuntu11:14
fritschsoulrider: can end like windows ;-) full, full and not working11:15
jmichaelxfritsch: maybe.... i would not know how to do it. getting the nvidia card to work would sure improve that PC11:15
fritschjmichaelx: what mainboard is installed?11:15
crazy_penguingood night everyone! sleep well! :)11:15
kb5iavI don't like boards with too much integrated stuff on them11:15
jmichaelxfritsch: it is an old SiS amd board11:15
kb5iavmy board is MSI11:15
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jmichaelxintegrated sucks11:15
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soulriderok11:15
soulridery made a link there11:16
fritschjmichaelx: could you tell me the correct name?11:16
jmichaelxMSI is what SiS is called now, i think11:16
soulriderbut when i click on it to run eclipse i get some errors11:16
fritschsoulrider: so should work now11:16
boolkaIs it possible to migrate from ubuntu to kubuntu?11:16
soulrideri think i know whats happening though11:16
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kb5iavmy Windows box has integrated ethernet and sound cards11:16
jmichaelxfritsch: i would not know the name... how would i find it?11:16
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kb5iavLINUX is a different world11:17
soulriderfritsch: it wont work :(11:17
fritschsoulrider: you linked on the executable?11:17
fritschsoulrider: i think not :-)11:17
soulrideryea11:17
soulrideri did11:17
kb5iavOpenOffice word processor took a little while to load11:17
fritschsoulrider: close shell, open again11:17
soulrideri get this11:17
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fritschsoulrider: and after that: which eclipse11:18
soulriderwhat i get is a window11:18
soulriderthat has a few errors11:18
fritschsoulrider: ah okay, but the link is working11:18
fritschsoulrider: did you uninstall the debian package?11:18
soulrideryea11:18
fritschsoulrider: apt-get remove eclipse11:18
soulriderbut eclipse is not:P11:18
wildbatanyone know how to fix "'fixme:ras:RasEnumConnectionsA RAS support is not implemented! Configure program to use LAN connection/winsock instead!"11:18
soulrideri didnt11:18
soulrideri just downloaded it compiled11:18
jmichaelxeitch0000: i have discovered that if you press stop just after a HD trailer started to play, and just let it download the whole thing and then click play, they work just fine..... for some reason playing them as they are streaming just won't work11:18
soulriderif i go to where i etracted it and click eclipse it works just fine11:19
kb5iavUbuntu is the first Linux I've tried the would work on this system, Debian didn't work, nor did RedHat11:19
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fritschsoulrider: never installed the debian package?11:19
soulridernope11:19
fritschsoulrider: do: which eclipse11:19
fritschsoulrider: what does it say?11:19
soulriderjust a sec11:19
fritschsoulrider: "which eclipse"11:19
soulrider3.1.211:19
|lostbyte|Which one is better...11:19
|lostbyte|Gefroce.. FX OR MX ?11:20
|lostbyte|geforce*11:20
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fritsch|lostbyte|: linux open source support is bad on both11:20
|lostbyte|And any one having a MX here ?11:20
|lostbyte|fritsch, By bad you mean ?11:20
fritsch|lostbyte|: you can just use the binary drivers ... that sucks11:20
eitch0000jmichaelx: hmm... let me try that one out... =))11:21
eitch0000jmichaelx: thx for the tip11:21
fritsch|lostbyte|: FX5**** MX4*** you have to ask more precious11:21
soulriderfritsch: http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/4845/snapshot4qw8.png11:21
|lostbyte|fritsch, huh. Ok. bet fx5200 and mx400011:21
fritschsoulrider: you installed the "sun java"?11:21
|lostbyte|Which one is better ?11:21
fritsch|lostbyte|: i thin the FX one11:22
fritsch|lostbyte|: but not for sure11:22
soulriderindeed11:22
soulrideri can run ti perfectly well from,t he directory its located in11:22
fritschsoulrider: do java --version11:22
soulriderbut i cant use the link11:22
|lostbyte|Keeping in mind, i am running on xgl and would love to play games.11:22
fritschsoulrider: what does it give?11:22
fritschsoulrider: do a: which eclipse please11:22
soulriderit works if i run it from the dir11:22
fritschsoulrider: which eclipse please11:22
soulrideri get /usr/local/bin/eclipse11:23
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|lostbyte|fritsch, ok, you said it has bad support. Which card has good support on linux ?11:23
fritschsoulrider: ls -l /usr/local/bin/eclipse11:23
fritsch|lostbyte|: Radeon 9200 :-)11:23
soulrideri get: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 2006-08-12 18:15 /usr/local/bin/eclipse -> /usr/share/eclipse/eclipse11:23
|lostbyte|fritsch, how much is that ?11:23
fritschsoulrider: you see11:23
jmichaelxfritsch: if i figure out the name of  that motherboard, ill come lookin for ya11:23
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soulriderno11:23
soulrideri dont :P11:24
|lostbyte|Does everyone here agree with fritsch ?11:24
fritschsoulrider: you said you extracted it to an other place?11:24
interfearim starting to hate gnome and the new kde looks nice, is kubuntu 6.06.1 the newest version?11:24
soulrider:/11:24
soulriderlisten11:24
fritsch|lostbyte|: 9200 is slow in 3d, but run with oss drivers11:24
kb5iavI have gnome on mine11:24
soulriderif i go to /usr/share/eclipse11:24
soulriderand click on eclipse11:24
soulriderit works11:24
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|lostbyte|fritsch, ok11:24
fritschsoulrider: run from terminal: /usr/share/eclipse/eclipse11:24
fritschsoulrider: what happens then?11:25
soulrideropens perfectly well11:25
fritschsoulrider: ln -s /usr/share/eclipse/eclipse /usr/local/bin/eclipse11:25
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interfearis the 6.06 on the ubuntu site the same as 6.06.1?11:26
soulrideri get a file exists error11:26
interfearthey arent really advertising 6.06.111:26
soulriderdo i delete it ?11:26
soulriderand then run again ?11:26
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fritschsoulrider: yes11:26
kb5iavI like this OS11:27
soulrideri had to use sudo11:27
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interfearanyone here know which to use?11:27
kb5iavshould I download those 161 updates?11:27
fritschsoulrider: yes, sorry11:27
soulriderno prob11:27
jmichaelxinterfear: 6.06.1 was just released a few days ago. i am running it on this laptop11:27
soulriderok11:27
soulridernow i type eclipse11:27
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soulriderand i get the error :P11:27
eitch0000jmichaelx: with which player you watching the trailers?11:27
jmichaelxeitch0000: mplayer11:27
fritschsoulrider: go to /usr/local/bin11:27
fritschsoulrider: delete eclipse file11:27
fritschsoulrider: vim eclipse11:28
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fritschsoulrider: #!/bin/sh11:28
jmichaelxinterfear: i would say install 6.06.111:28
fritschsoulrider: /usr/share/eclipse/eclipse &11:28
fritschsoulrider: :wq11:28
fritschchmod +x eclipse11:28
fritschsoulrider: here you go11:28
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fritschsoulrider: you know, what you did?11:29
soulrideri get an  error when i do #!/bin/sh11:29
soulridersais " no string under cursor"11:29
fritschsoulrider: lol :-)11:29
eitch0000which plugin you using for firefox? totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin or totem-xine-firefox-plugin11:29
fritschsoulrider: ah you are inside vim?11:29
fritschsoulrider: then press "insert"11:29
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soulriderok11:30
fritschsoulrider: then type: #!/bin/sh11:30
fritschsoulrider: in the nex line: /usr/share/eclipse/eclipse &11:30
fritschsoulrider: then press escape, then :wq ENTER11:30
fritschafter that sudo chmod +x /usr/loca/bin/eclipse11:30
fritschsoulrider: the vim command also with sudo11:31
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soulrideri get "cant open file for writing11:31
soulriderah ok11:31
fritschsoulrider: sorry, q! the vim command also with sudo11:31
fritschsoulrider: all clear? you know what you are doing?11:32
soulridernot too sure11:32
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fritschsoulrider: okay, we make a bash script at the moment, which executes the eclipse for us11:32
jmichaelxeitch0000: i think it is just the mozilla mplayer plugin11:32
fritschsoulrider: don`t forget the chmod command11:33
eitch0000jmichaelx: ahh ok... I'll try that one11:33
fritschsoulrider: chmod +x means, make the file executable11:33
soulriderok11:33
soulriderim gonan type eclipse and see what happens11:33
soulrideryay! works11:33
fritschsoulrider: cool :-) what a hack11:33
soulrider:)11:33
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soulridercan you explain what those 2 lines inside vim did ?11:34
nixternalhere we go...who has Kubuntu + aiglx & compiz installed?    if you do, msg me, i have a quick question or two for you!!!11:34
fritschsoulrider: the first: #!/bin/sh <- header, ah it`s a sh file (bash is your sh), second line just starts eclipse11:34
fritschsoulrider: the & makes the process go to the background11:35
soulrideroh, easy :P11:35
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fritschsoulrider: not as hard as grid fields ;-)11:35
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soulriderits easy to udnerstand11:36
jmichaelxeitch0000: as a matter of fact, i do not have either of those totem plugins installed at all, they just give me problems. with mplayer, real player, flah and occasionally vlc, i can play almost anything..... but don't install the vlc plugin11:36
soulriderbut allt he editing files makes it seem scary11:36
jmichaelxflash*11:36
fritschsoulrider: bash is a shell, but you can program in it, too11:36
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fritschsoulrider: it`s like a windoze hyperlink with additional features11:36
fritschsoulrider: not bash, our start script11:37
soulriderah11:37
fritschsoulrider: $me -> sleep()11:39
awittkei am a newbie11:40
fritschawittke: everybody starts some time11:40
fritschawittke: outch11:40
soulridersleep well :)11:40
fritschsoulrider: thx11:40
eitch0000jmichaelx: well... I just deinstalled those plugins, and look here... it seems to work... only I don't like the idea that I can change the ration of the window... squeezy the picture... but it works so that's really cool11:41
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jmichaelxeitch0000: yeah, i agree.... it isn't perfect, but it is workable11:42
eitch0000jmichaelx: thx anyway for the help =))11:43
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jmichaelxeitch0000: yw11:45
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ooo11:46
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viper550I ported Gilouche to KDE if anyone wants it11:50
aliasfredwhat is gilouche ?11:51
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aliasfredi googled and it is a gnome art theme11:53
viper550http://rapidshare.de/files/29175340/Gilouche.kcsrc.html11:53
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soulriderwhats gilouche11:56
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viper550Color Scheme, default theme on SUSE 10.1's Gnome Desktop11:57
matt_____yo11:57
soulriderscreenshot?11:58
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rictoo_!nvidia11:59
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto11:59
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viper550soulrider: This is what it looks like on Gnome: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/original.php?release=700&slide=1411:59
matt_____how do i install dvd codecs?12:00
wolfmanzmatt_____: use easy ubuntu12:00
wolfmanz!easyubuntu12:00
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.12:00
soulriderlooks nice, ill download it12:00
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blazihello12:01
blazii have a problems with my kubuntu12:01
blaziwith apt-get12:01
blazi-.-12:01
viper550sudo apt-get install soandso12:01
blazino12:02
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blazii know this command :)12:02
rictoo_1nvidia12:02
rictoo_!nvidia12:02
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto12:02
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blazibut i have a problem with libc6 library12:02
viper550I was just assuming that you were goofing up and omitting sudo like I used to do by accident sometimes12:02
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j__help me :-P12:03
blazii cannot upgrade libc6 library cause it need tzdata12:03
viper550sudo apt-get install tzdata?12:03
blaziits not going :/12:03
j__i cant play any mp3 in kubuntu. fresh install and update.  but the system sounds are working12:03
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blazilook:12:03
viper550!mp312:04
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:04
KnightlustJ__: use automatix12:04
Dr_Willisick. :P12:04
Dr_WillisHeh12:04
Knightlustit'll install all those that you need12:04
Dr_Willis!mp312:04
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:04
Dr_Willisits like a 3 line cut/paste job. Much safer also.12:04
viper550Dr_Willis: I just did that a few seconds ago!12:04
blaziit tells me to use "apt-get -f install"12:04
j__where should i search for that. web or an updater?12:04
Dr_Willisviper550,  :P12:04
blazibut its not going too12:04
blazi:(12:04
Dr_Willisj__,  you are better off NOT using automatix. and learning how ti install the stuff yourself.12:05
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blaziviper, any ideas?12:05
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viper550Use Automatix or Easy Ubuntu, they can help12:06
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Dr_Willisand they can trash things. :P     heh.. seen them do all of the above even!12:06
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soulrideri downloaded that gnome thing, how can i install it ?12:07
Agiosdpkg -i gnomething.deb ??12:07
soulriderno12:08
Agioswell, be a little more specific then12:08
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