[12:09] <thybo> hello?
[12:09] <thybo> anybody?
[12:09] <Bearcat> foot: no prob. I'll be around
[12:10] <narvik86> thybo: hello
[12:10] <thybo> hello narvik
[12:10] <thybo> how are you?
[12:10] <narvik86> thybo: ok thx L(
[12:10] <thybo> :p
[12:11] <thybo> i have a problem with kafeine :'(
[12:11] <narvik86> thybo: o_O
[12:11] <thybo> i installed it
[12:11] <thybo> but
[12:11] <thybo> it wont play mp3
[12:11] <thybo> or avi :(
[12:11] <narvik86> !mp3
[12:11] <thybo> yeah
[12:12] <narvik86> installed codeck?
[12:12] <narvik86> installed codecs?
[12:12] <thybo> u have to install codecs to?
[12:12] <thybo> too?
[12:12] <thybo> when it installs xine it doesn't install the codecs along?
[12:12] <narvik86> not all
[12:13] <thybo> not mp3? 0_o
[12:13] <otaku-san> thybo: neither will it do it for amarok
[12:13] <otaku-san> thybo: mp3 is a restricted format
[12:14] <aliasfred> !restricted
[12:14] <otaku-san> thybo: it's not open source so normally you'll get !restricted format or what aliasfred just did
[12:14] <otaku-san> thybo: on this irc
[12:14] <aliasfred> the bot is down ?
[12:14] <narvik86> yes :/
[12:15] <aliasfred> today is hollyday then :)
[12:16] <macconline> hi... plugin flash in firefox 2.0 ???
[12:16] <otaku-san> aliasfred: what do you mean the bot is down? for irc?
[12:16] <aliasfred> otaku-san: well he produced no answer and usual he does
[12:16] <narvik86> ubotu bot :)
[12:16] <aliasfred> so i guess he is down
[12:16] <thybo> so what do i do? :'(
[12:16] <otaku-san> macconline: everytime I've tried to install the flash plugin it freaks
[12:17] <aliasfred> thybo: google 'restricted ubuntu'
[12:17] <otaku-san> macconline: I've heard you can wine firefox to use flash...I think I'll try that
[12:17] <thybo> coz i like to read avi and mp3
[12:17] <thybo> and wma
[12:18] <otaku-san> me too!  I'm so restricted!
[12:18] <thybo> i used to be able to do it with knoppix
[12:18] <thybo> how come not with ubuntu?:s
[12:18] <aliasfred> thybo: hehe :) no ubuntu is the only linux unable to do it ? well not is you google 'restricted format ubuntu' :)
[12:18] <macconline> otaku-san: with wina??
[12:19] <macconline> otaku-san: with wine??
[12:19] <thybo> but mms does read mp3!!!
[12:19] <thybo> this drives me craz
[12:19] <thybo> crrazy
[12:19] <aliasfred> hehe :)
[12:20] <thybo> aliasfred explain me that :d
[12:20] <otaku-san> macconline: yes google wine it allows Linux (and a few others) to be able to run Windoze apps
[12:22] <otaku-san> macconline: for example you could run Winamp, or Internet Explorer in Linux.  In your case Windows Firefox (which can use flash) will be used
[12:22] <macconline> otaku-san: but with wine install the plugin flash player in firefox???
[12:23] <narvik86> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[12:24] <macconline> otaku-san: ok, so firefox for windows with wine for to use in linux???
[12:24] <otaku-san> macconline: Yep!
[12:27] <klerfayt> how to open port 6337
[12:27] <macconline> otaku-san: why to use firefox for windows in linux, if have firefox for linux??
[12:27] <klerfayt> (udp)
[12:27] <macconline> otaku-san: do not understand
[12:28] <otaku-san> macconline: because the Linux version of firefox has a bug with Flash.  But Windoze version of Firefox is ok with Flash.
[12:28] <narvik86> macconline: to use windows flash plugin
[12:29] <macconline> otaku-san: ok, very thanks...
[12:29] <otaku-san> macconline: no prob
[12:29] <macconline> narvik86: thanks
[12:29] <otaku-san> narvik86: darn those restricted formats! ;)
[12:30] <narvik86> otaku-san: :)
[12:30] <otaku-san> got to get off for a bit
[12:30] <otaku-san> exit
[12:31] <klerfayt> flash over here freezes ffox sometimes...
[12:31] <macconline> wine or xwine ??
[12:37] <wildbat> anyone knows any good codec pack like (k-lite maga) in windows?
[12:45] <draik> wow... this is a very exciting channel... woohoo!
[12:46] <megmeister> Hey guys..
[12:46] <narvik86> hi
[12:47] <megmeister> i am new to this so i really don't even know what i clicked on to get in here.. What is this?
[12:47] <thybo> still cant play mp3:d
[12:47] <narvik86> thybo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats it works, have to
[12:48] <thybo> i cant find the specified file in synaptic :|
[12:48] <narvik86> thybo: ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:49] <narvik86> thybo: http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:49] <thybo> thx what is it
[12:49] <thybo> ?
[12:49] <draik> megmeister
[12:49] <narvik86> to create own sources.list
[12:50] <draik> you are in an IRC, Internet Relay Chat
[12:50] <draik> megmeister /topic
[12:50] <narvik86> i have to go, thybo create better sources.list and all of these (restricted) will be available
[12:50] <narvik86> good night all
[12:50] <thybo> lolo
[12:50] <thybo> ok
[12:50] <thybo> thx
[12:51] <pm> do you know any sites with screenshots of kde 4?
[12:51] <draik> google images
[12:52] <thybo> there should be some on Osdir.com
[12:52] <thybo> i guess
[12:52] <draik> osvids.com maybe
[12:54] <megmeister> i can't download anything from anywhere.. it won't let me
[12:58] <pm> thanks
[01:00] <thybo>  anyone got a healthy source i can add to get some codec packs
[01:06] <dek> how do I execute programs compiled by Free Pascal?
[01:07] <dek> I created some "hello world" to test it, it compiles correctly and i got my "executable file", but I double click, and try console, but it doesn't do anything
[01:07] <dek> I checked permissions and "executable file" is checked
[01:09] <unix_infidel> anyone know how many GB hard disk space macromedia mx takes?  The Recommended is only a couple hundered MB, but what's the real usage for the default suite install?
[01:11] <aliasfred> macromedia mx is on kubuntu ?!?!?
[01:11] <unix_infidel> aliasfred: cxoffice 5
[01:12] <aliasfred> ?
[01:12] <unix_infidel> wondering how much space it usually takes assuming you do the default install with a couple of needed plugins.
[01:12] <unix_infidel> aliasfred: short, answer, yes you can get it working in KUbuntu.
[01:13] <aliasfred> unix_infidel: any pointer on how ?
[01:13] <unix_infidel> cxoffice 5
[01:15] <megmeister> seriously i need help with this..
[01:15] <megmeister> hello?
[01:15] <megmeister> anyone?
[01:21] <actinic> hey is anyone finding KDE 3.5.4 a bit sluggish compared to previous versions?
[01:21] <klerfayt> where are located desktop menu entries?
[01:22] <otaku-san> okay gonna be n00b for a bit. For AmaroK 1.4 it says Apt Source than gives deb and a link to an index then dapper main I didn't want to post the link cuz' of flood kills
[01:22] <otaku-san> what do I do?
[01:24] <otaku-san> I'm installing Amarok...sorry tired
[01:30] <DFM> wvwning
[01:30] <DFM> evening
[01:30] <DFM> try it again
[01:31] <dako> I am using KMail and did a encypt test. When I tried to open I got an error "Crypto plug-in "openpgp" could not decrypt the data."
[01:31] <DFM> I am in need of assistance. I am trying to install the driver for the ATI card on my ThinkPad a21m.
[01:32] <DFM> I am trying to run this command from the command prompt since I now have no X......gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:33] <DFM> I am using kubuntu 6.06 and I have read and followed instruction's from several sites and i always kill my X
[01:33] <DFM> Tell's me that gksudo isn't a valid command
[01:33] <DFM> neither is gedit so I tried kedit and got same response
[01:35] <djk_> try sudo nano /etc...
[01:36] <DFM> inplace of gedit ?
[01:36] <DFM> drop gksudo and gedit for sudo nano?
[01:36] <djk_> yes
[01:37] <DFM> Ok let me try that. Not familiar with how to edit from command line yet
[01:38] <djk_> er..wait, you used to use ubuntu, now freshly installed kubuntu (meaning, not ubuntu+then kubuntu-desktop) ?
[01:38] <DFM> no I done a fresh install of kubuntu
[01:38] <DFM> prefer ke
[01:38] <DFM> kde
[01:39] <djk_> gksudo and gedit is gnome-crap..try kdesu kate /etc/...
[01:39] <DFM> got my wifi going then done some update from the standard repository and resolution went to crap
[01:40] <DFM> figured which is why I thought to substitute k for the g
[01:42] <DFM> Problem I am having is very slow frame rate's due to wrong or basic driver for card. When I ran Linux on an old desktop with Nvidia I didn't have very much trouble installing the right driver.
[01:43] <DFM> Since this is an old laptop with Ati I don't want to change the vid card
[01:46] <djk_> DFM: i suppose you can just follow the wiki..
[01:46] <DFM> Tried numerous times
[01:46] <DFM> figured I had to be doing something wrong
[01:46] <DFM> probably still am
[01:47] <djk_> maybe ask in #ubuntu since there's more activity atm
[01:47] <DFM> first I couldn't download the fglrx kept telling me error that it might break the system
[01:48] <DFM> finally able to do that then when I follow the instructions and reboot it locks up and just shows the kubuntu splash
[01:49] <DFM> Somehow I got my resolution back to 1024 x 768 but still can run any app that needs more that 1 to 2 FPS
[01:50] <djk_> have you confirmed that the driver is working
[01:51] <actinic> DFM:  have you looked at EasyUbuntu to help with the ATI install?
[01:51] <actinic> It's http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/overview.html
[01:51] <djk_> reconfigured xserver-xorg so you are actually using fglrx instead of ati?
[01:51] <DFM> no I haven't didn't know of it yet. Thanks I will look now.
[01:51] <DFM> yes
[01:51] <foot> any sign of bearcat?
[01:51] <djk_> and..confirmed that fglrx is even supporting your card?
[01:52] <DFM> using command line from instructions on a page yet I don't believe that I changed everything properly
[01:52] <DFM> ah no I have not done that.
[01:52] <DFM> guess I took for granted a 5 year old laptop with rage would be supported or be made to work
[01:53] <DFM> I have read in forums where people have made this card work
[01:53] <actinic> wow that's getting a bit long in the tooth
[01:53] <DFM> well I picked up this thinkpad for $50
[01:53] <djk_> sure it's most likely supported, but not by fglrx..
[01:54] <DFM> really just wanted wifi and stability and a learning platform
[01:54] <djk_> use gentoo if you want a real learning platform ;)
[01:55] <DFM> if not supported by fglrx where should I look?
[01:55] <DFM> one day for sure but just getting a video card to work is kicking my arse............a littl
[01:56] <djk_> what's the name of the card anyway?
[01:56] <wildbat> anyone can PM a step by step info, that install kubuntu in WINXP ready system on second HD, which boot both OS in NTLDR ?
[01:57] <DFM> Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x rev 64
[01:57] <djk_> ntldr?
[01:57] <DFM> I believe with 16 megs
[01:57] <DFM> brb
[01:57] <Agios> wildbat: search the kubuntu forums. There's probably a how-to
 I didn't ~ but i get a GRUB error instead
[01:58] <wildbat> I did  i mean ~
[02:00] <djk_> why do you want to use the ntldr instead of grub?
[02:00] <actinic> DFM, here's another ATI reference:  http://tazforum.thetazzone.com/viewtopic.php?t=2189
[02:00] <DFM> thanks
[02:01] <wildbat> djk_: ntldr boot up faster ^^
[02:01] <IceSerpent> hello
[02:03] <IceSerpent> does anybody know how to enable PDO extension in php5?
[02:03] <foot> anyone familiar with tar?
[02:03] <IceSerpent> foot: yes, why?
[02:04] <foot> IceSerpent: I am trying to install ivtv drivers. I am at the stage where it says to untar my file, and I want to make sure I am not screing anything up.
[02:05] <foot> IceSerpent: to untar a file I would use tar -xf   ...
[02:05] <IceSerpent> foot: is the file compressed?
[02:06] <foot> IceSerpent:  it is ivtv-0.4.6.tar.gz
[02:06] <foot> IceSerpent: read I dont know.
[02:06] <IceSerpent> foot: 'tar zxvpf ivtv-0.4.6.tar.gz'
[02:06] <foot> IceSerpent: thx
[02:07] <IceSerpent> foot: z - to uncompress
[02:07] <IceSerpent> foot: x - to untar
[02:07] <IceSerpent> foot: v - to make tar chatty - safe to skip this one, if you want
[02:07] <IceSerpent> foot: p - to preserve permissions, if I recall correctly
[02:08] <foot> IceSerpent: i am folowing you up to the 'chatty'
[02:08] <IceSerpent> foot: v == verbose, causes tar to give some extra output to the terminal
[02:11] <[mX] > uhm.. is there a way to easily revert from edgy to dapper >:)
[02:11] <foot> IceSerpent: thx much
[02:11] <aarohi> i'm installig kubuntu-desktop. kdm configuration wants me to pick between kdm or gdm. i'm not sure as i've not tried them yet and not quite sure of the difference. please suggest what i should pick
[02:12] <Doodluv> really its preference to me...
[02:12] <DFM> djk since I am not registered I can't reply
[02:13] <DFM> how do I register. never really used irc before?
[02:14] <aarohi> DFM: type /nickserv help register
[02:14] <DFM> k
[02:14] <foot> IceSerpent: YES making headway again!!!! only been at this since tuesday noon
[02:16] <djk_> aarohi: it doesn't matter, they both do the same..
[02:16] <foot> does linux list all the errors at the end, before giving one back ones prompt?
[02:16] <aarohi> djk_: i choosed gdm
[02:18] <DFM> REGISTERMANDRAKE
[02:18] <djk_> close
[02:18] <DFM> well now that wasn't very smart
[02:20] <aarohi> DFM: indeed
[02:22] <DFM> thanks djk
[02:22] <djk_> you're welcome
[02:24] <claudio> Hi from Brasil !!
[02:25] <dek> how do I compile Beesoft Commander? http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=37435
[02:26] <soulrider> ive been trying to compile it too, but with no luck... anyone ?
[02:32] <neuraloverload> Can anyone tell me how to enable Mp3 support on Kubuntu, please?
[02:32] <neuraloverload> I googled and googled for hours... :(
[02:32] <draik> !restricted
[02:32] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:33] <draik> neuraloverload > !restricted
[02:36] <neuraloverload> I looked at the restricted formats guide
[02:36] <neuraloverload> Cant get it to work
[02:36] <Hawkwind> Define *Can't get it to work*
[02:37] <Hawkwind> neuraloverload: Just install all the packages it lists and mp3 support will work
[02:37] <nejode> go to synaptic/adept and install evrything that says lame
[02:38] <Agios> I'm guessing he can't fiogure out how to add the restricted keyword to his sources
[02:38] <neuraloverload> You mean
[02:38] <neuraloverload> Umm...
[02:38] <Hawkwind> neuraloverload: What's the exact problem you're having ?
[02:38] <neuraloverload> libxine-extracodecs
[02:38] <actinic> neuraloverload, here's the easy way: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/overview.html
[02:39] <neuraloverload> Hmm
[02:39] <neuraloverload> Ill try it
[02:40] <nejode> how about automatix?
[02:40] <actinic> yeah that works too
[02:40] <actinic> but the purists around here disdain it
[02:41] <foot> gedit and vim basicly do the same thing right?
[02:41] <IceSerpent> can anybody tell me which package installs lex please?
[02:42] <nejode> gedit=gui  vim=cli
[02:42] <sonic> Hi there, I just upgraded a machine to dapper and went to log in (remotely). I'm getting a warning saying: 'WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED!'. How can I fix this?
[02:44] <Hawkwind> sonic: It's just a warning, it should still let you in.  If not, remove the key from your local machiens ~/.ssh/known_hosts file and then ssh in again
[02:44] <bigbill52a> is there something wrong with the weather aplet...you put in the correct location..but you can select it in the first tab..and it doesnt do anything but show a question mark
[02:44] <bigbill52a> can't select it
[02:44] <Hawkwind> bigbill52a: Try adding a second one and see if the first one works then
[02:44] <bigbill52a> ok
[02:44] <sonic> There's a load of keys there and I can't find the one with the ip
[02:45] <sonic> I'll look again
[02:45] <ubuntu> How can I get kubuntu on my language, brazilian portuguese? Is there a lang_package for it?
[02:45] <Hawkwind> sonic: Well certainly you know the IP of the machine you are trying to ssh to.  Use an editor and use it's search function
[02:45] <ubuntu> On ubuntu I could install direct on my language...
[02:45] <neuraloverload> Hey actinic, i think this is gonna work, thanks man :D
[02:45] <bigbill52a> says unknown station in the first tab...
[02:46] <actinic> neuraloverload, no problem and remember, there's always an easy way :)
[02:46] <sonic> Hawkwind: The ip isn't there
[02:47] <sonic> Should I just add it?
[02:47] <bigbill52a> kweather error..station doesnt exist..even though it updates in the 2nd tab
[02:47] <neuraloverload> Yeap
[02:48] <Hawkwind> sonic: If it's not there then it should allow you to ssh in without warning.  That warning you can answer Yes to and it'll let you in
[02:48] <sonic> I don't get the option
[02:48] <sonic> RSA host key for 192.168.5.51 has changed and you have requested strict checking.
[02:48] <sonic> Host key verification failed.
[03:03] <IceSerpent> /quit
[03:15] <foot> Has anyone seen a bearcat roaming about?
[03:15] <crimsun> a ... what?
[03:16] <Hawkwind> foot: I haven't seen him here today
[03:17] <Hawkwind> crimsun: He's looking for someone by the nick of 'bearkat'
[03:17] <foot> Hawkwind: thanks, I rebooted and forgot to restart konversation ;/
[03:17] <otaku-san> foot: I saw him earlier today about 4ish but he got off
[03:18] <otaku-san> cmt time that is
[03:18] <Hawkwind> !seen bearkat
[03:18] <ubotu> I haven't seen bearkat recently
[03:18] <foot> thanks. I spoke to him a while ago, he will be back
[03:18] <otaku-san> cool
[03:19] <otaku-san> hey hey n00b question!
[03:20] <otaku-san> ok I'm trying to get amarok to play mp3's (!restricted I know) and I know I need the libxine-extracodecs
[03:21] <otaku-san> so I'm on packages.ubuntu.com and I found it but it's in 7 different packs...do I just down them all and compile?
[03:22] <otaku-san> or did I just scare you guys away?
[03:22] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: No.  sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[03:24] <otaku-san> ahhhhh duh!  Ok I've been trying to get Kubuntu setup with what I want...and it's really really fun! *eye twitch*
[03:24] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: thanks ok time to try it
[03:27] <ryanakca> forward from #kubuntu-fr: For some reason (asker doesn't know why, or steps to reproduce), He can no longer add bookmarks to his bookmarks bar... it's empty... (Konqueror, Dapper)
[03:32] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: hey it didn't work. it's pulling off the old "package is not available" bit and "E: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate" whats up?
[03:32] <nalioth> ryanakca: you still working on the bookmarks thing?
[03:33] <ryanakca> nalioth: bookmarks thing? I don't know if I'm thinking of the same thing as you are... but yes... it is a "bookmark" thing
[03:33] <ryanakca> nalioth: why... is it a bug??
[03:33] <nalioth> ryanakca: are you still helping the guy?
[03:34] <ryanakca> nalioth: among other things... like watching "the last of the mohicans" out of the corner of my eye... and doing that NUN stuff...
[03:35] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: Then you need to enable universe and multiverse for *all* of your sources
[03:35] <nalioth> ryanakca: check and see if his .$browswer dir is writeable and further, if his bookmarks.htm file is writeable
[03:36] <ryanakca> nalioth: kk
[03:37] <ryanakca> nalioth: I had had him move all the konqueror folders from ~/.kde   to ~/ ... didn't work
[03:37] <nalioth> ah, konqueror.  he probably used sudo or something
[03:37] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: in Adept under manage repos...I tried that...tho' let me check it again to see if I missed a repo
[03:39] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: yep they're all enabled...maybe rebootin' will work?
[03:39] <ryanakca> nalioth: nope...
[03:39] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: Rebooting is for Windows users, or after installing a new kernel
[03:39] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: Did you do: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[03:39] <DaSkreech> AHhhhhh
[03:40] <foot> bearcat: Ahh just the feline ursine I was looking for
[03:40] <Bearcat> lol
[03:40] <djk_> Hawkwind: rebooting is for crappy windows users...
[03:41] <Bearcat> foot: actually, i'm just a feline, but i'll excuse the transgression....this time! <.<  >.>
[03:41] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: Hahaha! yeah rebooting is for windoze. Yes, and I tried that update than install too.
[03:41] <ryanakca> djk_:  ever had fun with with new kernel modules?
[03:41] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: Can you put your /etc/apt/sources.list into http://pastebin.ca please
[03:41] <djk_> ryanakca: why are you asking?
[03:42] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: sure hold on
[03:42] <Bearcat> foot: so what's up?
[03:42] <foot> Bearcat: so I got a bit farther on my brain, some fleas did loose their life in the overclock heat wave, now I am all they way down to seting up myth tv but the distructions are for gnome, and I am a foot!
[03:43] <DFM> Anyone able to tell me how long easyubuntu should take to install everything? The shell stopped at "setting up libqt-perl (3.008-1.4)
[03:43] <Bearcat> Bearcat is listening to "Ananamin" by Keita, Salif on Moffou with amaroK  <---- just for you foot
[03:44] <Bearcat> foot: cool! That's not to hard to figure out with me around. *struts*
[03:44] <DFM> just a flashing cursor and appears to be no activity on the HD
[03:44] <ryanakca> djk_: "rebooting is for crappy windows users..."       I remember having to reboot several times.... when messing around with kernel modules and stuff
[03:44] <DFM> should I just let it sit for awhile and see what happens?
[03:44] <Bearcat> foot: you need to find the menu editor in this distro
[03:45] <djk_> ryanakca: i was replying to Hawkwinds statement that 'rebooting is for windows'...
[03:45] <Bearcat> foot: actually, its just "kmenuedit" in a terminal
[03:45] <foot> Bearcat: any hints?)
[03:46] <foot> Bearcat: do I specify what I want to edit?
[03:46] <Bearcat> nope that command will just open it up
[03:47] <foot> Bearcat: O'Tay
[03:47] <Bearcat> foot: i donno if kubuntu installed a menu item for mythtv for you, but look under Multimedia first.
[03:47] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: my konqueror can't upload or download to my full bandwidth potential so it's a bit slow....Firefox can tho' so it loading hold on
[03:47] <foot> Bearcat: WARNING: Could not read /home/lovely/.config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu
[03:48] <c0rrupt> is there anyway to listen to sound on more then one application at the same time?
[03:48] <c0rrupt> my sound card is realtek ac'97
[03:48] <Hawkwind> c0rrupt: If your sound card supports it, sure
[03:48] <c0rrupt> well how do i know if it does
[03:48] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: here you go  http://pastebin.ca/127163
[03:48] <c0rrupt> do i have to install drivers for it or something?
[03:48] <Bearcat> foot: actually wait
[03:48] <Hawkwind> Majority of the onboard cards don't support dual channel
[03:48] <foot> Bearcat: kmenu editor
[03:48] <c0rrupt> is there any work arounds?
[03:49] <foot> Bearcat: would it be listed under multimeadia?
[03:49] <Bearcat> yess
[03:49] <Bearcat> if it's there at all
[03:49] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=545.0
[03:49] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: That's my current sources.list
[03:50] <foot> Bearcat: no love Doctor Jon... err ahh cat
[03:50] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: If you want, replace yours with that one and then do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[03:50] <Hawkwind> c0rrupt: Go purchase a cheap $20 SBLive card from Walmart
[03:50] <Bearcat> foot: ok, then we'll make one, but let me ask you a few things first
[03:50] <c0rrupt> why SBLive ?
[03:50] <Bearcat> foot: nevermind. let's just do it.
[03:50] <foot> Bearcat: yes I respect you ;)
[03:50] <Bearcat> foot: O.o  putz
[03:51] <foot> Bearcat: lol
[03:51] <Bearcat> foot: anyway, with Multimedia selected, click on the "new item" icon in your toolbar
[03:52] <msimmons> any thinkpad users?
[03:52] <foot> Bearcat: and the name is?
[03:52] <Bearcat> foot:  "MythTv Set-up" or something like that
[03:52] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: question....sad as it is  how do you work a editor program in root?  I've been wondering this
[03:52] <foot> Bearcat: I thought linux was specific?!?
[03:53] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:53] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: Replace 'kwrite' with the editor of your choice
[03:53] <Bearcat> foot: it is, but your just telling it what you want the title to be in your K-menu
[03:53] <foot> Bearcat: and this is the setup file or the run file or both?
[03:54] <Bearcat> foot: in the "command:" field put "mythtv-setup"
[03:54] <Bearcat> foot: this is just the setup program
[03:54] <foot> Bearcat: done
[03:54] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: ahh and for gpg's you would put sudo gpg -keyserver.... to use them as root?
[03:55] <Bearcat> foot: click the checkbox for "Run as a different user" and "username" will become enabled. Put "mythtv" in that box. It is case specific
[03:55] <foot> Bearcat: next?
[03:56] <Bearcat> That;s it, but let's add an entry for the main program shall we?
[03:56] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: I assume.  I've never really messed with gpg stuff to be honest
[03:56] <Bearcat> Select Multimedia and click on "New Item" again
[03:57] <foot> Bearcat:  btw, I didnt get an account with the zap2it page yet. I had a question or two
[03:58] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: cool okay time for some hackin'
[03:58] <Bearcat> foot: Name: MythTv, Command: myth-frontend. You might as well have it run as "mythtv" as well, we can always change that later.
[03:59] <Bearcat> foot: by the way, where this how-to tells you to restart, it's unnessesary for a few of them
[04:00] <Bearcat> foot: also, before you run mythtv-set up you'll want to make this chat window "keep above other windows. The mythtv apps are full screen. If you loose the window, you can always cycle to it with alt-tab. You might try an alt-tab now to see what it does.
[04:01] <foot> Bearcat: ok, so save the mythtv multimedia
[04:01] <foot> Bearcat: also by using the scroll bar on the mouse.
[04:02] <DaSkreech> Bye yall
[04:02] <Bearcat> foot: oh, cool. i didn't realise that was the default kubutu set up. You can change what your mouse buttons do in the desktop settings
[04:02] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: should I have kept the original repos in the source list and added the extras or just take out the original and put the extras in it's place?
[04:02] <Bearcat> my mouse wheel switches desktops, because jaguarundi are just cool like that.
[04:02] <DaSkreech> otaku-san: Keep the original
[04:02] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: That list on my forums has all of the originals, plus the new stuff
[04:03] <c0rrupt> Hawkwind is there any place to check if my card supports dual channel
[04:03] <c0rrupt> "7.1 channel out"
[04:04] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: Yeah I saw that Forum list contained the original so I just replaced the original
[04:04] <c0rrupt`> djk_, you get my pms?
[04:04] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: If you read the entire post, at the top it tells you about moving your current list to a backup spot
[04:04] <otaku-san> yeah I did
[04:05] <otaku-san> and theres undo
[04:05] <unix_infidel> anyone know where i can find some cheap case fans?
[04:05] <Bearcat> unix_infidel: newegg.com is usually my first stop. Also you might check compugeeks.com
[04:06] <unix_infidel> newegg is a terrible place to shop imho.
[04:06] <Bearcat> unix_infidel: if you want cheap and fancy with a *awesome* return policy chekc out frozencpu.com *first*
[04:06] <unix_infidel> but i'll check out compugeeks, thanks.
[04:06] <Bearcat> unix_infidel: no problem
[04:06] <unix_infidel> Bearcat: i could care less if they were a nasty brown.
[04:07] <unix_infidel> as long as they were cheap, and they arrived sooner than lter.
[04:07] <Bearcat> unix_infidel: energency, huh?
[04:07] <foot> Bearcat: what am I doing?
[04:07] <unix_infidel> Bearcat: no, nothing like that...just impatience.
[04:07] <Bearcat> foot: you're asking ME?
[04:07] <Bearcat> foot: :P
[04:07] <Bearcat> foot: you saved the menu changes right?
[04:07] <foot> Bearcat: yes
[04:08] <foot> Bearcat: so now the mythtv setup?
[04:09] <Bearcat> yes. Did you turn off the sound server in the control center? It's called arts?
[04:09] <foot> nope
[04:10] <Bearcat> let's do that first. let's go to "kcontrol"
[04:10] <Bearcat> foot: in kcontrol, under "Sound adn Multimedia" you should see "sound system". Select that.
[04:11] <foot> Bearcat: got it
[04:11] <foot> Bearcat: disable?
[04:11] <Hawkwind> unix_infidel: Order from anywhere and pay for overnight shipping if you can't be patient.  That, or order sooner and don't complain about the wait time
[04:11] <Bearcat> foot: make sure that "Enable the sound system" is NOT checked and hit Apply
[04:11] <foot> Bearcat: ok
[04:12] <Bearcat> foot: did the "mythfilldatabase" run correctly?
[04:14] <foot> Bearcat: ok kitty, sorry Mr. Kitty, we left the page how to a bit ago and I am following your distructions now, since that page is no longer valid. no
[04:14] <Bearcat> foot: the page is still valid
[04:14] <Bearcat> so you got the ivtv drivers all loaded?
[04:15] <foot> Bearcat: now you tell me :P
[04:15] <Bearcat> i just meant we may not have to restart like he says we do
[04:15] <Bearcat> foot: i just meant we may not have to restart like he says we do
[04:15] <Bearcat> foot: have you rebooted since instaling the ivtv drivers?
[04:16] <foot> Bearcat: yes
[04:16] <Bearcat> foot: awesome!
[04:16] <foot> Bearcat: and I ran mythtv-install from the kmenu. nothing aparent happend
[04:16] <Bearcat> foot: now run "mythfilldatabase" it may complain about authorization, but ignore that
[04:17] <Bearcat> foot: oh..wait
[04:17] <Bearcat> foot: wait wait
[04:17] <obf213> ive asked this a few times but is there any c programmer that just works the same way windows c program builders work
[04:18] <foot> Bearcat:  database error,   password
[04:18] <Bearcat> foot: that's ok
[04:18] <foot> Bearcat: I was strutting earlierer too
[04:19] <foot> Bearcat: *waiting*
[04:19] <Bearcat> foot: before we getinto any of the mythtv apps, you should know that hitting "esc" will back you up one level. Hitting it repetedly will get you out of the app
[04:19] <foot> ok
[04:19] <foot> like the old commadore 64
[04:20] <foot> or was it the TI 99/4a?
[04:21] <Bearcat> foot: right
[04:21] <Bearcat> foot: what happends when you do "mythtv-setup" in the terminal?
[04:22] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: Finished!
[04:25] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: and installed libxine-extracodecs perfectly!  Thanks man!  Now to try Amarok
[04:27] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: Awesome.  Glad to hear it
[04:27] <wind> hey everyone
[04:28] <wind> hey Hawkwind, is there a package that allows you to manage your finances?
[04:28] <wind> like credit card bills, house bills, etc
[04:28] <Hawkwind> wind: I'm sure there is, maybe gnucash ?
[04:29] <robotgeek> kmymoney2!
[04:29] <wind> hm
[04:30] <robotgeek> even does qif imports well. (once you get past the date template)
[04:30] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: You are so great!  Oh man I am streaming my favorite radio right now and it's thanks to you...without these streams I don't know if I could of lasted for long!  (I'm so odd)
[04:32] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: Hah.  I know all about streams.  I have my own that plays 24/7 that plays anything from country music, alternative, 80's, old-school rap, and other stuff
[04:32] <visik7> anyone know where I can find docs on how to get installation via ubiquity unattended ?
[04:34] <nabz_> how can u change your kde theme after installing one?
[04:34] <Hawkwind> nabz_: You can do it via kcontrol and Look & Feel
[04:34] <nabz_> kcontrol? lol, soz im kinda new to this
[04:35] <nabz_> ah nvm
[04:35] <nabz_> there is no look & feel :s
[04:36] <nabz_> nvm
[04:36] <wind> hey Hawkwind, where is gnucash after i do apt-get install
[04:36] <nabz_> lol
[04:37] <Hawkwind> nabz_: Just type 'kcontrol' into a terminal, then look around
[04:37] <Hawkwind> wind: Type: 'gnucash' from a terminal.  I don't use KDE so I don't know how the menus are setup
[04:37] <wind> k
[04:37] <wind> thanks
[04:38] <robotgeek> wind: if you use kde, i would recommend kmymoney
[04:38] <wind> oh alright
[04:38] <wind> wait, what's the diff?
[04:38] <Hawkwind> Though gnucash works perfectly fine in KDE
[04:38] <soulrider_> otaku-san: hes allways answering questions
[04:38] <Hawkwind> wind: Run them both, see what *you* like, not what others like
[04:39] <wind> hm well what i used to use (with windows) is uh... notepad
[04:39] <robotgeek> wind: gnucash is written for gnome, kmymoney is written for kde. i've used both, i found kmymoney to work very nicely.
[04:39] <wind> so either i'm guessing is going to work fine
[04:39] <jaen> hi, somebodi want to help me to listen my dvd's in kubuntu, i can see them with kafeine but i can't hear anything
[04:39] <wind> i'll try both
[04:39] <Eeyore> ! dvd
[04:39] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:39] <robotgeek> i dont know what version of gnucash is in the repositories, the older one was gtk 1.0 == ugly
[04:39] <Hawkwind> But just because it's a gnome app doesn't mean it doesn't work in KDE.  And of course vice-versa
[04:39] <unix_infidel> wind: there are much better accounting apps for windows.  But honestly, if you use notepad gnucash or the kde equiv would work just fine.
[04:40] <jaen> thank ubotu
[04:40] <unix_infidel> your CPA might find some formats easier to play with than others though.  Just make sure the stuff is readable.
[04:40] <otaku-san> soulrider_: sorry for late reply!  Hehe yes I can see that!
[04:41] <archangel_> whatsup whatsup!!
[04:41] <archangel_> Hey what program do  you use with the ipod?
[04:41] <wind> wow, gnucash just opened up a big click-down list of stuff... :/
[04:42] <wind> lets see how kmymoney works out
[04:42] <visik7> bug 1
[04:42] <archangel_> anyone here use their ipod with linux?
[04:43] <robotgeek> archangel_: i suppose amarok manages it, i dont have an ipod though
[04:43] <archangel_> I'll try it
[04:43] <archangel_> thanx bro
[04:43] <Hawkwind> archangel_: gtkpod is one of if not the best appt o use
[04:44] <Hawkwind> s/appt o/app to
[04:44] <archangel_> I'll try it
[04:44] <archangel_> thanks
[04:45] <Eeyore> ! gtkpod
[04:45] <ubotu> I know nothing about gtkpod - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:45] <Hawkwind> !info gtkpod
[04:45] <ubotu> gtkpod: manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod. In repository universe, is extra. Version 0.99.2-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 480 kB, installed size 1988 kB
[04:46] <wind> k.. i'm not exactly sure what half of this stuff means
[04:47] <wind> i just want to be able to put my cc spending limit and balance on here
[04:47] <wind> then when i make a payment or buy something i just add it as i go
[04:47] <robotgeek> wind: sure, you can do that.
[04:47] <wind> how
[04:48] <robotgeek> wind: have you looked at the handbook?
[04:49] <wind> getting on it
[04:52] <robotgeek> howdy seth
[04:52] <seth> heya robotgeek, I haven't seen you around in a while
[04:52] <robotgeek> seth: jump into kofftopic
[04:53] <Bearcat> how does one restart a service in kubuntu (my distro is diffrerent)
[04:53] <dragon-1> Hello
[04:54] <robotgeek> Bearcat: usually /etc/init.d/service restart
[04:54] <robotgeek> restart, err
[04:54] <dragon-1> Any one here Proficeint with Lap top touch pads an Kubuntu?  I'm trying to figure out how to disable the touch pad click feature.
[04:54] <Bearcat> thank
[04:54] <robotgeek> dragon-1: what hardware?
[04:55] <dragon-1> Compaq Prosario?  or do you need to touch pad information?
[04:55] <robotgeek> no, i know how to do it on a mac, so sorry
[04:55] <dragon-1> Crapola
[04:56] <dragon-1> How different can it realy be?  Were using the same software?
[04:56] <dragon-1> Maybe you'll be able to point me in the right direction and I can figure from there.
[04:57] <dragon-1> Is it a built in Kubuntu feature, or is it entirely hardware related?
[04:57] <Bearcat> foot: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restary
[04:57] <lozzzi> hi! how do I use locate to search only within some directories??
[04:58] <robotgeek> dragon-1: its a different mac software called pbbuttonsd, (powerbook buttons deamon)
[04:58] <dragon-1> Was that directed to me Bercat?
[04:58] <Bearcat> dragonkh: nope
[04:59] <dragon-1> Was this a software that you acquired from MAC, or a Linux software resource?
[04:59] <foot> Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[05:00] <Bearcat> foot: got it
[05:00] <lozzzi> is there any way to search files but only within a directory? I'm using <locate -d /home/etc nameoffile> but not working
[05:01] <Bearcat> foot: su mythtv
[05:01] <Kr4t05> I can mount an ISO disk image, right?
[05:01] <robotgeek> Kr4t05: sure
[05:01] <Hawkwind> lozzzi: Look into using find instead
[05:02] <Hawkwind> Kr4t05: mount -o loop -t iso9660 /full/path/to/foo.iso /mnt/some/mount/point/you/created
[05:02] <robotgeek> Kr4t05: you might need a -loop or something
[05:02] <Kr4t05> Hawkwind: what about a .dmg?
[05:02] <Hawkwind> Kr4t05: Never dealt with a .dmg, but you could try it
[05:03] <Hawkwind> Kr4t05: You can mount an .img file the same
[05:03] <Kr4t05> ok
[05:04] <lozzzi> Hawkwind: do you mean <find /home/etc nameofArchive>?
[05:05] <Bearcat> foot: you did the section where it told you to "sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin right?
[05:06] <xwolf--> please, i need some help here. i tried to resize my linux partition in partition magic (windows), but the program crashed and the partition is now corrupted. since grub was installed there, it gets an error and now i can`t load windows nor linux (only with livecd here)
[05:06] <Hawkwind> lozzzi: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=383.0  Read that post on my forum.  Also, 'man find' for more details on how it works
[05:07] <lozzzi> ok
[05:08] <foot> Bearcat: I dont have that on the page I have been following  http://www.quietglow.com/docs/ubuntumythtv.html
[05:09] <Bearcat> foot: it's in Step two- install apache. Did you do that section
[05:10] <wind> how do i put a total spending limit in institutions (for a cc) in kmymoney
[05:10] <foot> yes, and it went smothly
[05:10] <foot> Bearcat: yes, and it went smoothly
[05:11] <Bearcat> so when you're in a web browser adn you type in "localhost" for an address what do you get?
[05:11] <foot> Bearcat: did the password and everything
[05:12] <Bearcat> foot: was the password that you entered for the mythtv user's connection to the database the same as the password you made for the user?
[05:13] <Bearcat> foot: i know that's confusng
[05:13] <foot> Bearcat: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20344
[05:13] <foot> Bearcat: almost but not quite, I think
[05:14] <foot> Bearcat: btw can I turn my sound back on?
[05:14] <Bearcat> in the mythtv-setup when it is asking you for a password for the database, it means the password that you gave when you were setting up the database, not the one for the user
[05:15] <Bearcat> foot: you still have sound, it's just not through the soudn server. You do not' want the sound server on anyway. Arts is a bad program that has been unmaintained for years.
[05:15] <soulrider_> Hawkwind: linuxfordummies.org is your forum?
[05:15] <foot> Bearcat: ok, so do the setup again
[05:16] <xwolf--> please, i need some help here. i tried to resize my linux partition in partition magic (windows), but the program crashed and the partition is now corrupted. since grub was installed there, it gets an error and now i can`t load windows nor linux (only with livecd here). i need to resize the partition before reinstalling kubuntu dapper. i`m in the livecd now
[05:16] <Bearcat> foot: yeah. Do you remember what the password was?
[05:17] <soulrider_> xwolf--: you should try resotring the grub first
[05:17] <soulrider_> thats what i would do
[05:17] <soulrider_> and then see if you can boot
[05:17] <soulrider_> can you see the partitions using hte liveCD?
[05:17] <foot> Bearcat:  dont you???????  ;P}
[05:17] <Bearcat> O.o
[05:17] <Hawkwind> soulrider_: Yes it is
[05:18] <foot> *ducks*
[05:18] <xwolf--> soulrider_ i can mount the partition windows is on, but can`t mount the rest of the hard disk
[05:18] <soulrider_> cool, im gonna reg :)
[05:19] <foot> Bearcat: I do not however remember how to get to the setup.
[05:19] <wind> i don't think i'm using this kmymoney thing right
[05:19] <djk_> xwolf--: try fsck (read the manpage) to repair the grub/linux partition/s, repair grub if needed, resize partitions with gparted..
[05:19] <Bearcat> foot: "mythtv-setup"
[05:19] <Bearcat> foot: i think proudfoot is trying to show off to you :)
[05:19] <soulrider_> i dont know much about partitons, but maybe it got fooked
[05:20] <soulrider_> what -> I <- would try would be restoring the grub
[05:20] <soulrider_> and if that doesnt work
[05:20] <soulrider_> maybe try to copy the contents of hte linux partition from windows onto another drive
[05:20] <foot> Bearcat: AHH pride.     I remember that but from lovely hermes or where?
[05:20] <soulrider_> and reformat the partition
[05:20] <xwolf--> yes. i want to restore it, but don`t know how
[05:20] <Knightlust> question, the grub menu at bootup, is there someway i could make it graphical
[05:21] <xwolf--> soulrider_ that`s exactly what i want to do
[05:21] <soulrider_> there is a very good link in the forum
[05:21] <soulrider_> i would say
[05:21] <soulrider_> go to win
[05:21] <soulrider_> and try to backup all the kubuntu drive files
[05:21] <Knightlust> e.g. Fedora or Mandriva (which uses LiLo)
[05:21] <xwolf--> i cant boot to win as grub is `corrupted`
[05:21] <soulrider_> then try to restore grub
[05:21] <djk_> Knightlust: by graphical you mean a shiny 4-color background?
[05:21] <soulrider_> if it foesnt work, start over
[05:21] <soulrider_> oh
[05:21] <soulrider_> :/
[05:21] <soulrider_> youre right...
[05:21] <xwolf--> soulrider_ how do i override grub?
[05:22] <soulrider_> let me get you the link
[05:22] <Knightlust> no, not color, but kinda like a wallpaper
[05:22] <djk_> xwolf--: did you even read what i said?
[05:22] <Knightlust> i've been trying to emulate fedora
[05:22] <xwolf--> soulrider_  delete it, whatever, just want it out, and get the windows bootloader working
[05:22] <Knightlust> but failed, don't know how, I already consulted google and some forums
[05:22] <djk_> Knightlust: that's pretty much what i meant..search for bootsplash /grubsplash
[05:22] <foot> Bearcat: exit
[05:23] <xwolf--> djk_: i did, but i think it wont work because partition magic were to merge the partitions, then resize the big one, before it crashed
[05:23] <Knightlust> hmmm, ok
[05:23] <djk_> Knightlust: btw, 14 colours, typo ^^
[05:24] <djk_> xwolf--: let's see, you ask for help, you get help, you don't try, you don't think it will work, .....
[05:24] <soulrider_> i think that you wont be able to get into win unless you restore it
[05:24] <soulrider_> but i may be wrong
[05:24] <soulrider_> !grub
[05:24] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:24] <xwolf--> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# fsck /dev/hda5
[05:24] <xwolf--> fsck 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)
[05:24] <xwolf--> fsck: fsck.ntfs: not found
[05:24] <xwolf--> fsck: Error 2 while executing fsck.ntfs for /dev/hda5
[05:24] <soulrider_> follow the first link
[05:24] <fidel> argghh...so i made an iso of a video dvd using mkisofs, then tried to burn in w/ k3b. it works in my desktop, it works in my laptop, but it won't work in my dvd player. any ideas? the files are vobs
[05:25] <djk_> Knightlust: http://ruslug.rutgers.edu/~mcgrof/grub-images/
[05:25] <Knightlust> hey, hey, thanks djk_
[05:25] <djk_> Knightlust: you're welcome
[05:26] <Knightlust> my thanks djk_, very helpful
[05:26] <xwolf--> soulrider_: i was reading that before i came here. i'm sorry but i couldnt find what i need there
[05:27] <fidel> if it matters, i'm currently using vobcopy to make a copy on my hdd and then try k3b again.
[05:29] <foot> Bearcat: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20345
[05:30] <djk_> xwolf--: fsck doesn't fix ntfs. fsck is for unix filesystems
[05:30] <xwolf--> "partition magic were to merge the partitions, then resize the big one. between these two events, it crashed"
[05:31] <xwolf--> i'll put this hard disk as a slave in another computer and see what i can save
[05:32] <djk_> idiot..
[05:33] <Hawkwind> djk_: Hah
[05:34] <fidel> so I'm SOL on a little help w/ the dvd thing?
[05:35] <fidel> and yes, I read the forums. still doesn't seem to want to work.
[05:35] <djk_> Hawkwind: honestly, what did he come here for? If he wanted to repair the ntfs, he'd have had to use chkdsk
[05:37] <Hawkwind> djk_: Not sure myself.  I don't do anything Windows related, so I wasn't about to get into that conversation :)
[05:39] <djk_> Hawkwind: If he had read the fsck manpage, he'd have had at least a chance...
[05:40] <djk_> fidel: i haven't authored a video-dvd yet, did you double-check if you used the correct settings in mkisofs +k3b ?
[05:40] <fidel> took it right out of the forums
[05:40] <djk_> fidel: finalized it?
[05:40] <fidel> yep
[05:40] <djk_> dvdplayer should support it?
[05:41] <wind> it seems that kmymoney2 is a bit easier to use then gnucash, thanks though Hawkwind
[05:41] <fidel> it runs the original dvd
[05:41] <fidel> which is what i copied using mkisofs
[05:41] <Agios> k9copy, dvdshrink?
[05:41] <Agios> why reinvent the wheel
[05:42] <ShadowMan> anyone here can help me
[05:42] <ShadowMan> i am a completly newbie
[05:42] <fidel> cuz i don't have a repos with k9copy
[05:42] <djk_> fidel: well, my dvdplayer doesn't like some dvd-media..
[05:42] <Healot> !ask > ShadowMan
[05:42] <fidel> dvd-r?
[05:42] <djk_> fidel: yes
[05:42] <ShadowMan> i want to run a bashscript to convert redhat cds into a single dvd
[05:42] <dragon-1> Hello, Is anyone hear know how to disable the "tap to click" feature on PC Laptop touchpads, running Linux.  If it matters I am running a Compaq Presario.
[05:42] <Dark_Oppressor> is there a program to run that will help me to configure xorg.conf properly?
[05:42] <ShadowMan> i have found the bashscript called makedvd.sh
[05:42] <ShadowMan> but i dont kno whow to use it
[05:43] <wind> how do i force close something?
[05:43] <Healot> Dark_Oppressor, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[05:43] <djk_> wind: kill <PID> in a terminal
[05:43] <wind> pid?
[05:43] <djk_> the process number..
[05:43] <Healot> the output you get from "ps"
[05:44] <Bearcat> ok, folks foot and i need a little help. Has anyone in here ever setup mythtv on kubuntu?
[05:44] <wind> um
[05:44] <ShadowMan> noone has the answer to my question :(
[05:44] <wind> what if it's a program?
[05:44] <Agios> killall -9 <program>
[05:45] <Dark_Oppressor> Healot: thanks
[05:45] <Healot> ShadowMan, technically, we don't support such script, or we may not have knowledge about such script...
[05:45] <wind> thankie
[05:45] <foot> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20347
[05:45] <ShadowMan> but you know how to run ANY .sh scriipt ?
[05:45] <Healot> YES, ShadowMan
[05:45] <Healot> sh filename.sh
[05:45] <ShadowMan> can i have  alist of commands fo rthat :P
[05:45] <ShadowMan> that will directly RUN ? or some precompilation stuffs
[05:46] <Healot> it's script, no compilation needed
[05:46] <ShadowMan> ohhhh
[05:46] <ShadowMan> k, thanks :)
[05:46] <Healot> it's interpreted by the shell
[05:46] <ShadowMan> nice
[05:46] <ShadowMan> going back to linux and trying it :P
[05:46] <ShadowMan> ill brb if i cant seem to solve it :P
[05:46] <ShadowMan> seems simple
[05:46] <ShadowMan> thanks bro
[05:47] <chanson> hello everyone .. how to find more channels ?
[05:47] <Hawkwind> chanson: /msg chanserv list *search-term-here*
[05:47] <Bearcat> when doign a mythtv-set up, foot sees "Database not open while trying to load setting: Language
[05:47] <Bearcat>  2006-08-11 21:27:22.100 Unable to connect to database!
[05:47] <Bearcat>  2006-08-11 21:27:22.101 Driver error was [1/1045] :"
[05:47] <Hawkwind> chanson: If you're using Xchat, then Windows -> Channel List
[05:47] <Hawkwind> chanson: Or you can also just type: /list   but that's pretty nasty as it puts it into your IRC client directly
[05:48] <djk_> chanson: F5 in konversation
[05:48] <chanson> thanks !!!
[05:48] <beeli> hey!
[05:48] <chanson> i'm using Xwindow
[05:49] <earthsound> i am installing kubuntu on a new HD and I'd like to create an NTFS partition, but it isn't an option in the partition utility. is there a utility on the alternate install CD that can do this?
[05:49] <chanson> is it can be use at Commandline Mode ?
[05:49] <maltaethiron> guys, if i search in synaptic, should i be able to find .mpg, .wmv, and .avi plugins for kaffeine?
[05:50] <Healot> earthsound, the partitioner doesn't support creating NTFS partition, try fdisk instead, man fdisk for more options
[05:50] <farous> maltaethiron: nope.
[05:50] <farous> !restricted formats > maltaethiron
[05:50] <farous> read ubotu pm maltaethiron
[05:50] <farous> will tell you how to play those formats
[05:50] <maltaethiron> ty farous
[05:50] <Healot> the partitioner on the alternate CD can resize/delete ntfs partitions though, earthsound
[05:51] <farous> :)
[05:51] <earthsound> Healot: man isn't in the alt. install CD :(
[05:51] <wind> would it be wise to put my online banking info into kmymoney
[05:51] <Healot> yeah
[05:51] <Healot> use the online man, it's like everywhere on the net, try the one on Debian's site
[05:51] <earthsound> Healot: ah, perhaps I'll format it in winblows and then resize during the install...
[05:51] <wind> ?
[05:51] <djk_> earthsound: gparted can create NTFS..
[05:52] <Healot> it's Windows for Bill's sake
[05:52] <earthsound> which partition utility comes with the alt. install CD?
[05:52] <Healot> parted, yes and fdisk too...
[05:52] <farous> wind: i never put import infor on any pc
[05:52] <Hawkwind> wind: All depends on how secure your system is or how safe you feel the info is on your system
[05:52] <wind> k
[05:52] <djk_> earthsound: why would you have to resize after you created the ntfs? why not create it at the size you want right away and leave the rest alone?
[05:52] <wind> nevermind then
[05:52] <earthsound> djk_: good point
[05:53] <Healot> but the install CD doesn;t have parted... maybe you can get parted bootable CD from parted's sourceforge site
[05:53] <Nimwei> Is there a package available I can get to install a kubuntu theme? My KDM install didn't include any.
[05:53] <wind> anyway i think i got it all setup
[05:53] <wind> <3
[05:53] <nabz> hey. whats the move command on terminal?
[05:53] <djk_> gparted has a Live-CD
[05:53] <Nimwei> nabz - mv
[05:53] <djk_> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/
[05:53] <earthsound> yes, the install cd does have parted...I've never used it, but it doesn't appear to hard to understand
[05:53] <nabz> ty
[05:53] <Bearcat> foot: mysql --user=root --password
[05:54] <foot> foot: mysql --user=root --password
[05:54] <earthsound> parted version 1.6.25.1 is on the alt. install CD
[05:54] <earthsound> bbiab
[05:54] <Bearcat> foot: then type in lovey's assword
[05:55] <Bearcat> foot: er...password, not assword. If lovey has an "assword" i don't wnat to know.
[05:56] <djk_> parted doesn't support anything..why is it being used?
[05:56] <Sir_Brizz> what does the standard Live CD have on it? qparted?
[05:56] <beeli> Hey!
[05:57] <beeli> You are sink!
[05:57] <Healot> Fur Kubuntu, it's qtparted
[05:57] <beeli> I feel goood for you, this site is really rapid!
[05:57] <earthsound> djk_: you are right...it doesn't seem to like the unformated 250GB SATA HD :(
[05:57] <Healot> Fur ubuntu it's Gparted
[05:57] <beeli> i mean channel
[05:57] <Sir_Brizz> thx Healot
[05:57] <nabz> hey, i got gimp installed but i cant find it under the graphics bit on the menu :S any ideas?
[05:57] <earthsound> Healot: but I have the kubuntu install CD
[05:58] <earthsound> and gparted isn't on it
[05:58] <Sir_Brizz> qtparted
[05:58] <wind> if i put something in tmp how long does it take to delete itself
[05:58] <wind> or do i have to delete it myself?
[05:58] <Healot> yes, the desktop installer, or the alternate installed, btw, qtparted should be in it, earthsound
[05:58] <Healot> wind, everytime you restart the PC, /tmp will be cleared automagically
[05:59] <djk_> Healot: why does kubuntu use qtparted, it's crap compared to gparted
[05:59] <earthsound> Healot: there are no programs beginning with q on the alternate install CD (v 6.06.1)
[05:59] <Healot> it's the same thing with different UI toolkit, duh
[05:59] <wind> k coo
[06:00] <Healot> the mother back-end is parted << the same thing
[06:01] <djk_> Healot: qtparted hasn't been developed in almost 2 years.
[06:01] <djk_> Healot: why's the feature list on the gnu parted site then completely different compared to gparted?
[06:02] <djk_> Healot: and the gnu parted site has just been updated recently..
[06:02] <Healot> ask the qtparted coders?
[06:03] <tk> anyone familiar with Amarok and using scripts with it?
[06:04] <djk_> Healot: btw, parted isn't the backend
[06:04] <Healot> it is the backend
[06:04] <Healot> hence, (qt)/(g)parted
[06:05] <djk_> that's just the name
[06:05] <earthsound> gonna fire up knoppix and see what havoc I can wreak
[06:05] <djk_> the backend is the actual fs-progs, ie e2fsprogs
[06:05] <earthsound> I think I have an old knoppix 4.02 around somewhere...
[06:05] <pappua> need help with ubunti sound
[06:07] <crimsun> pappua: what sort of help?
[06:07] <pappua> i am running into this issue flash is not able to output any sound.  please advise
[06:08] <farous> pappua: are you running another program that is using your sound card
[06:08] <earthsound> Healot: the kubuntu alt install CD doesn't have qtparted, but knoppix does :D
[06:08] <pappua> not at the same time
[06:08] <farous> pappua: running form ? which browser
[06:08] <djk_> btw, does 6.06 support reiser4?
[06:09] <pappua> firefox 1.5.0.6
[06:09] <farous> pappua: close firefox
[06:09] <Bearcat> djk_: is it stable enough to use?
[06:09] <crimsun> pappua: purportedly installing esound-clients is sufficient
[06:09] <farous> then close all programs using the sound card
[06:09] <djk_> Bearcat: afaik, yes
[06:10] <earthsound> 5GB should be enough for a root partition for kubuntu, yes?
[06:10] <nabz> yeh
[06:10] <Bearcat> djk_: is performance better over 3?
[06:10] <nabz> i only got 4gb =] 
[06:10] <pappua> ok installing
[06:10] <farous> crimsun: i thought the only way around it is through the wrapper alsa-oss
[06:11] <crimsun> farous: no, that's the way that I recommend doing it, but there are a few ways
[06:11] <pappua> is there any thing i should do after installing esound-clients
[06:11] <djk_> Bearcat: according to what I've read it's okay
[06:11] <crimsun> pappua: restart Firefox and test a Flash applet
[06:11] <farous> crimsun: ok thanx :)
[06:15] <pappua> not helping
[06:15] <pappua> i tried to open the cd( cd has software which requires flash) that is not working
[06:16] <pappua> read me says that the SW requires Flash 6.0.29.0
[06:16] <farous> pappua: do you have flash installed
[06:16] <farous> it is not installed by default
[06:17] <pappua> yes I have flash installed
[06:17] <pappua> i downloaded from the website and I had installed in .mozilla/plugins directory
[06:17] <pappua> i can see the video but no sound
[06:18] <farous> pappua: lsof /dev/dsp
[06:19] <pappua> lsof /dev/dsp o/p is nothing
[06:19] <pappua> no putput on running lsof /dev/dsp
[06:21] <farous> pappua: did you close all firefox instances after installing the package crimsun told you about
[06:22] <pappua> yes I closed all fire fox instances.  i will do it again to confirm
[06:22] <farous> pappua: if nothing using your sound i do not know why flash won't work
[06:22] <farous> pappua: lsof /dev/snd/
[06:23] <earthsound> I partitioned the new SATA HD w/ qpparted. during the installation of kubuntu, I wanted to change the mount points of each partition, but it failed
[06:23] <pappua> yes i closed firefox again and it is not working still  lsof /dev/snd/ output is nothing
[06:24] <farous> pappua: you can test sound with flash on a net site just to make sure
[06:24] <farous> it might b that what you view is just not comp
[06:24] <earthsound> nm...there must be a bug in this text mode partition utility. it said that it failed, but it changed the mount points anyway :|
[06:25] <pappua> flash on the net works
[06:25] <farous> ah ok
[06:25] <farous> so it might be a new flash that you need. flash for linux is a little bit old
[06:26] <pappua> flash i have is Shockwave Flash 7.0 r63
[06:26] <djk_> iirc the latest macromedia flash is 9..and macromedia-linux-flash is 7
[06:26] <pappua> about:plugins confirmed this
[06:26] <earthsound> apparently the installer is in a loop, if I try to select "Install the base system" it takes me to "Partition disks"
[06:28] <pappua> i know for sure there is no issue with CD because it works great on WINDOZE
[06:28] <farous> pappua: ran out of ideas. perhaps others can help
[06:28] <nalpha> guys can i talk with other user in my network with microphone? what software i should use???
[06:28] <earthsound> when I try to select either undo changes to partitions or finish partitioning... it just refreshes the screen
[06:28] <farous> nalpha: skype is quite good
[06:28] <djk_> farous: skype is crap
[06:28] <farous> djk_: what are the alter?
[06:29] <djk_> farous: skype support for linux is the worst i've seen so far
[06:29] <pappua> ok thanks for helping.  is there any one else who can help
[06:29] <farous> djk_: the beta ver support alsa
[06:30] <pappua>  the beta ver support alsa.  I am not sure what it means
[06:30] <farous> djk_: yet again what are the alt. :)
[06:30] <farous> pappua: that you can run other programs that use the sound card without a prob
[06:32] <pappua> yes i can but with one problem.  let us say real player for the first time outpus no sound.  close it and open works great
[06:33] <nalpha> how to install it??? (skype)
[06:33] <farous> !skype > nalpha
[06:36] <pappua> any ideas
[06:37] <djk_> farous: for a lan i'd probably use teamspeak..for other uses i'd have to search a bit, there are better oss alternatives
[06:37] <farous> pappua: try asking in ubuntu channel
[06:37] <farous> djk_: i found qnext which is java based
[06:37] <farous> yet not a lot are willing to try it
[06:38] <farous> it support audio video. and is platform independent
[06:38] <pappua> ok thanks
[06:38] <farous> again lot of window users are just more comf with skype :(
[06:39] <Bearcat> does anyone happen to know if i can call someone on skype with an opensip client?
[06:39] <Bearcat> i realise skype is a proprietary sip
[06:40] <farous> djk_: i think our diff in view is cause you are most prob admin and i am just a regular user :)
[06:42] <djk_> farous: i'm not an admin. http://www.openwengo.org/ is a better alternative
[06:42] <farous> djk_: thanx will have a look at it :)
[06:44] <djk_> farous: you're welcome
[06:44] <farous> djk_: this is open source right. for i went to a page similar name but was closed source
[06:45] <farous> yah will def switch am always for opensource thanx again
[06:47] <djk_> yea openwengo is oss. :)
[06:49] <bioticpro> is the new 6.06 installer cd udated with kde 3.5.3?
[06:49] <bioticpro> updated
[07:03] <foot> Bearcat: thank for the help tonight. I will talk to you tomorrow night, if your on. I am going to bed
[07:13] <Dark_Oppressor> ive got twinview setup, but now the panel in KDE only hides when i place the cursor on the sides of the screen, as opposed to hiding whenever the cursor is taken off the panel
[07:13] <Dark_Oppressor> is there a way to fix this?
[07:15] <Cornellius> #kubuntu
[07:15] <Cornellius> err
[07:15] <Cornellius> Wrong window
[07:20] <tk> anyone familiar with Amarok and using scripts with it? Ii cant get the Simple XOSD to work for some reason despite loading what I thought it needed Python wise
[07:48] <c0rrupt> heello.. i think i broke my nvidia drivers need some help
[07:48] <c0rrupt> when i try to start normally..
[07:49] <c0rrupt> the x server wont start
[07:49] <c0rrupt> so i start in safe mode.. and when i try to startx its saying wrong version of the nvidia kernel module
[07:49] <c0rrupt> so basically i want to completly remove all traces of the module
[07:49] <c0rrupt> and reinstall
[07:49] <c0rrupt> but i dont know how
[07:50] <c0rrupt> /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko is loaded i believe
[07:50] <c0rrupt> and /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia/nvidiafb.ko and some others
[07:52] <gekko`> c0rrupt: did you install the nvidia drivers through apt-get?
[07:53] <c0rrupt> um
[07:53] <c0rrupt> i sorta did
[07:53] <c0rrupt> ok the first thing i did
[07:53] <c0rrupt> was install it from the nvidia .run file
[07:53] <c0rrupt> and it seemed to work perfectly
[07:53] <c0rrupt> but i rebooted, and it wouldnt boot normally
[07:53] <bioticpro> Hello, I am tryin to use a crt TV as a monitor temporarily, what are the best kde font settings and xorg settings for this?
[07:54] <c0rrupt> so i tried to install it with apt-get install nvidia-glx and stuff
[07:54] <gekko`> c0rrupt: there's a nvidia package in the ubuntu repository which should be prefered
[07:54] <c0rrupt> which is what im on now
[07:54] <c0rrupt> ya
[07:54] <c0rrupt> so my question is
[07:54] <c0rrupt> can i remove the module that..
[07:54] <c0rrupt> the .run installed
[07:54] <c0rrupt> b/c i dont see a way of uninstalling it
[07:54] <randres1982> nadie habla spnanish
[07:55] <farous> c0rrupt: normally there will be an uninstall script
[07:55] <c0rrupt> i guess this isnt normal then huh?
[07:55] <farous> c0rrupt: but if there is not you have to remove them man
[07:55] <gekko`> randres1982: #ubuntu-es
[07:55] <c0rrupt> ya.. whats t3h command
[07:55] <farous> c0rrupt: that is what you pay when you do nto use deb
[07:55] <randres1982> alguien me puede colaborar con configuracion de kubuntu
[07:55] <farous> c0rrupt: and by normally i ment you have to search for it
[07:56] <c0rrupt> just delete the modules?
[07:56] <c0rrupt> like /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko is loaded i believe
[07:56] <farous> c0rrupt: search first for the modules package you installed for nividia
[07:57] <c0rrupt> ..?
[07:57] <farous> c0rrupt: remove it and use an open source driver
[07:57] <c0rrupt> oh
[07:57] <farous> then you can remove man
[07:57] <c0rrupt> er.
[07:57] <c0rrupt> lost me
[07:57] <randres1982> good nihg
[07:57] <randres1982> bye
[07:57] <farous> c0rrupt: if you removed manually files the apt have installed you risk corrupting your package manager
[07:57] <c0rrupt> so
[07:58] <c0rrupt> apt-get remove nividia-glx
[07:58] <randres1982> not ingles
[07:58] <c0rrupt> nvidia*
[07:59] <c0rrupt> alright..
[07:59] <c0rrupt> thats removed
[07:59] <c0rrupt> what else o.0
[07:59] <farous> search for the modules you suspect the script installed
[07:59] <c0rrupt> how do i remove them
[07:59] <c0rrupt> with modprobe?
[07:59] <farous> and hope for the best for it might have diverted some packages
[08:00] <c0rrupt> modprobe yes or n
[08:00] <c0rrupt> o
[08:01] <farous> c0rrupt: you got the idea remove and reinstall. sorry got to go have bad cold here
[08:01] <c0rrupt> modprobE!?
[08:01] <farous> c0rrupt: you have to phyically remove the files for they might be loaded later
[08:01] <c0rrupt> k thanks
[08:01] <c0rrupt> get betta s00n
[08:01] <bioticpro> night
[08:02] <farous> night here too
[08:07] <patrick_> Hey is there a big performance advatage of switchting to x86_64 if you have a 64-bit processor.
[08:08] <patrick_> I just installed the i686 because i thought it was easier to find packages
[08:08] <patrick_> #linux
[08:09] <superman007> Can anyone help with my wireless? I cant seem to get it to work
[08:11] <superman007> 0000:06:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 4311 (rev 01)
[08:11] <link_36p> Hey is there a big performance advatage of switchting to x86_64 if you have a 64-bit processor.
[08:11] <superman007> thats what I get rrom lspci
[08:12] <superman007> from*
[08:12] <superman007> link_36p, I'm sure its not too big, if any
[08:14] <link_36p> oh
[08:17] <tk> link_36p: I didnt notice a big difference... but others say they do
[08:17] <tk> i went back to 32bit for the ease of using flash and other non 64bit software
[08:52] <zered> Hi everybody
[08:53] <zered> I've just changed my mandriva for a kubuntu. I guess my problems came from my home rights
[08:53] <zered> I have no formatted my /home
[08:53] <zered> do you think it's the beginning of the solution ?
[08:54] <SpAwN> has anyone used truecrypt?...im trying to find out if i can take a partion im not curently using(its like 5 gigs) and somehow make it all encrytped and if i add files to it..they to will be encrytped...
[09:08] <bigbill52a> i have used true crypt in windows...
[09:20] <superman007> How come there are only 2.4 kernels in my repos?
[09:21] <superman007> nvm I see
[09:37] <rikioh> i cant figure out why but nothing will save to my pc from the internet
[09:37] <rikioh> it says it downloads and stores
[09:37] <rikioh> but its not there
[09:37] <rikioh> and ive even tried downloading and using the open option isntead of save and when its done it dont open
[09:43] <Bbetto> Hi
[09:43] <Bbetto> how can i view the cd icon in the desk?
[09:46] <Philip5> Bbetto: yes
[09:46] <wweasel> Hello. I'm here not regarding KDE persay, but a KDE App, and the people in #ubuntu told me it's more likely someone here could help. I use regular Ubuntu with KMess for MSN and Swiftfox as a browser.  Swiftfox is set to my default browser, but KMess still launches Firefox. Help appreciated.
[09:46] <Philip5> it will autoshow when a cd is mounted
[09:47] <Bbetto> i put a cd inside the pc, buy i can't see the icon in the desk
[09:47] <Bbetto> why?
[09:47] <bioticpro> how do I play video files (avi) over samba share?  (video is one windows machine, want to play it with  kaffeine)
[09:49] <Healot> !info libxine-extracodecs
[09:49] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[09:49] <Healot> !samba
[09:49] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:50] <wweasel> Does anyone here know how KMess decides what browser to launch
[09:50] <bioticpro> I have all the codecs, and I have samba installed, as well as samba-xine
[09:51] <bioticpro> Healot: I get the following errors from kaffeine:
[09:51] <bioticpro> Healot: No plugin found to handle this resource
[09:51] <Healot> configured the samba share yet?
[09:51] <bioticpro> Healot: yes, I can see the movies, but the don't play
[09:52] <bioticpro> xine: cannot find input plugin for MRL
[09:52] <Healot> btw media format?
[09:52] <bioticpro> xine: found input plugin : CIFS/SMB input plugin based on libsmbclient
[09:52] <bioticpro> Healot: the movie is *.avi
[09:53] <glen_> bioticpro: try kmplayer maybe?
[09:54] <Healot> what's the codec used?
[09:54] <Healot> OpenAVI can use any codecs nowadays
[09:54] <bioticpro> Healot: xine: found demuxer plugin: AVI/RIFF demux plugin
[09:54] <Healot> ms-avi?
[09:55] <Healot> wmv/asf avi maybe
[09:56] <bioticpro> I get same errors playing mpgs
[09:56] <intelikey> without alsatools how would one save sound settings ?
[09:56] <bioticpro> these videos play fine if I copy them over to my linux HD
[09:56] <bioticpro> intelikey: kamix
[09:57] <intelikey> without alsatools how would one save sound settings ?
[09:57] <intelikey> i think kmix uses alsactl  no?
[09:57] <bioticpro> intelikey: kamix, not kmix
[09:58] <intelikey> E: Couldn't find package kamix
[09:58] <bioticpro> hmm, maybe in universe/multiverse?
[09:59] <intelikey> maybe not
[09:59] <intelikey> !info kamix
[09:59] <ubotu> Package kamix does not exist in dapper
[10:00] <intelikey> !info kamix breezy
[10:00] <ubotu> Package kamix does not exist in breezy
[10:00] <bioticpro> hmmm, well, thats lame
[10:00] <bioticpro> Im using PCLinuxOS at the moment :)
[10:00] <intelikey> !info kamix edgy
[10:00] <ubotu> Package kamix does not exist in edgy
[10:00] <bioticpro> figured ubnut would have to have it
[10:01] <bioticpro> !info aumix dapper
[10:01] <ubotu> aumix: Simple text-based mixer control program. In repository universe, is extra. Version 2.8-17 (dapper), package size 75 kB, installed size 440 kB
[10:01] <Jack1> does anyone know sth about sunychronization works with sony ericsson k800 and kontact?
[10:01] <intelikey> i have aumix installed, and use it.  but it doesn't store the settings.
[10:01] <bioticpro> intelikey: my bad, kamix is great... guess ya gotta settle for kmix
[10:09] <bioticpro> can someone please help with playing avi video from a samba share?
[10:12] <Philip5> bioticpro: add the extra codecs to xine
[10:13] <link_36p> where are kernel headers kept in ubuntu?
[10:13] <Philip5> but you can't play wmv3 files yet... as far as i know
[10:13] <bioticpro> Philip5: I have the right codecs, the movie plays fine if I play it from linux HD, doesn't play from samba location though
[10:13] <Philip5> link_36p: you fetch the headers with apt
[10:14] <Philip5> bioticpro: try to open it from location
[10:14] <Philip5> haven't tried it... maybe it need some streaming and that depends on the media format
[10:15] <TheGateKeeper> link_36p: are you after build-essential ?
[10:16] <link_36p> No im installing vmware player
[10:16] <link_36p> and it says it needs to compile a kernel module and wants to know where the header directory is.
[10:17] <bioticpro> how do you mount a samba share locally?
[10:18] <intelikey> install   linux-headers-2.6.15-26-686
[10:19] <link_36p> Whats the difference between i386 and i686?
[10:24] <Healot> i686 kernels are optimized for Pentium 3 and above (the 80686s)
[10:25] <link_36p> so it doesnt matter if you have AMD?
[10:25] <Healot> i386 is compiled to run on any 80386 processor... 386 until the recent duel-core CPUs
[10:26] <Healot> the question is does it matter to your needs
[10:26] <link_36p> oh
[10:26] <Healot> if you are thinking of optimized kernel, you should use the appropriate kernel, not the generic i386 kernel
[10:27] <Healot> of course there are slight performance in using optimized kernels
[10:37] <ubuntu> hello everyone
[10:39] <Silence79> thats bettter
[10:40] <Healot> I wanna push around, and I will, and I will, I wanna take you for granted..
[10:40] <Silence79> just another spoke in the wheel
[10:40] <klerfayt> Healot: I don't notice performance drop then using i386 kernel instead of i686 on pentium m
[10:41] <Bbetto> Hi do you know a program to ripe cd's?
[10:42] <Healot> bcause P m has speedstep enabled by default... and yeah i686 kernel have speedstep, thus it slows down the cpu speed accordingly -
[10:42] <intelikey> ripperx - a GTK-based audio CD ripper/encoder
[10:42] <Bbetto> another one?
[10:43] <Silence79> so what advantages do i get by running linux?
[10:43] <Silence79> I'm a newb
[10:43] <adnan> many
[10:43] <Healot> Silence79, what kind of advantages that you want?
[10:44] <intelikey> grabcd-rip - rip and encode audio CDs - ripper
[10:44] <intelikey> grip - GNOME-based CD-player/ripper/encoder
[10:44] <Silence79> just wondering what I can do with linux....for instance can I get better performance outta my PC?
[10:45] <Silence79> if so how?
[10:45] <Bbetto> thanks, what is the best in kde?
[10:45] <adnan> security, stability, easy of use, free... what kind of performance?
[10:45] <intelikey> crip - terminal-based ripper/encoder/tagger tool
[10:45] <aliasfred> Silence79: this question is not really answerable, you may want to simply try it, there are livecd to make it easy to try
[10:46] <aliasfred> not answerable as it is not specific enougth
[10:46] <Silence79> I'm using the kumuntu free live cd
[10:46] <Bbetto> crip? but isn't graphic
[10:47] <Silence79> and I realize it is a very generalized question
[10:47] <intelikey> Bbetto two things;  1. best is subjective, it's based solely on opinion and not on fact.    2, apt-cache search/show  has more information about packages than you ever want to know.
[10:47] <adnan> bye
[10:51] <aliasfred> Bbetto: k3b does it i think
[10:53] <Bbetto> in the kubuntu-es chanel all are sleep, alguien habla espaol aqui?
[10:54] <[nige] > hi all
[10:56] <kosh> Bbetto: sorry I don't speak spanish
[10:56] <Healot> Bbetto, listen to mamito, hablen ingles :)
[10:57] <[nige] > Hi all
[10:58] <[nige] > I am having a problem with my ati card and dual monitors
[10:58] <[nige] > :(
[10:58] <[nige] > !ati
[10:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:58] <kosh> hello
[10:58] <kosh> I have two ati cards and 4 monitors but I don't use the binary ati driver
[10:59] <Healot> I have one ATi card but now I found out ATi no longer exist :)
[10:59] <intelikey> hmmmm did you know that you can't cat a file in irc that only has one line.....
[11:00] <Healot> I can dog a file instead :0
[11:00] <kosh> I don't think I have ever tried to cat a file in irc
[11:01] <kosh> I use a terminal program for that not irc :)
[11:01] <intelikey> /exec cat blah
[11:01] <intelikey> echo -e '#!/bin/sh\n\napt-cache show $* \n' > S ;chmod 755 S
[11:01] <intelikey> echo -e '#!/bin/sh\n\napt-cache search $* \n' > Q ;chmod 755 Q
[11:02] <intelikey> /exec -o cat blah   ^ outputs to the channel
[11:02] <kosh> I still don't see why I would want to do that
[11:03] <intelikey> you wouldn't     that's simple enough
[11:04] <intelikey> kill -9 -1      kills every thing that can be killed    but you wouldn't want to do that either.    i guess that means that that function is obsoleet and should be removed....
[11:04] <intelikey> or maybe not....
[11:05] <_rince_> mrgn
[11:06] <intelikey> tra bon chance
[11:06] <kosh> kill -9 -1 is for when you are on a shared server and one of your processes has just gone nuts and you need to kill it now and hte system is so lagged that getting the pid will take too long since the admin will have executed you long before that point :)
[11:07] <intelikey> kosh no that's what killall   is for
[11:07] <Healot> killall! kill all!
[11:08] <aliasfred> be carefull in thinking you are smarter that unix designer :)
[11:08] <kosh> killall takes a pid or name as an argument
[11:08] <klerfayt> Healot: where did you get that info? pentium m freq. scaling works with i383kernel also
[11:08] <intelikey> killall blah    kills blah + all blah's children    genicide for the process tree.
[11:10] <kosh> kill -9 -1   works if you don't know the name of the process which just went nuts but you know that you own it
[11:10] <kosh> I remember that was used a few times by students on the shared cs unix servers
[11:10] <kosh> it would kill the compile no matter what it was that was causing the problem
[11:11] <intelikey> oh you mean without root perms    yeah it don't do much there really.
[11:11] <kosh> root woudl not run that command
[11:11] <kosh> a user would run it
[11:11] <kosh> it makes some sense for a user
[11:12] <intelikey> root would run it   or a veriant called killall5  which only omits $PID & $PPID
[11:13] <intelikey> does every time you shut down in fact
[11:13] <aliasfred> in anycase to remove it require authorization on the kernel, and im convinced none of the kernel dev will accept those arguements :)
[11:13] <kosh> root has not reason to run it, if the box is that hosed you better reboot it
[11:14] <kosh> since you will be killing critical processes even if they are not your parent
[11:14] <intelikey> kosh  this is not M$ reboot.   sorry
[11:14] <aliasfred> hehe you guys are amazing :)
[11:14] <intelikey> critical ?    like ?
[11:15] <kosh> intelikey: if you have killed init, the logd and all the other stuff you might as well have rebooted given how much time it will take to try and get the services back up and running again
[11:16] <intelikey> init can not be killed.    if you don't even know that.  this discussion is over.
[11:16] <thomas__> my gcc-compiler seems not to work. anyways the ./configure says "checking if c-compiler (gcc ) works ...... no". I have tried removing the gcc and installing again. what can be wrong? where to look?
[11:16] <kosh> you can kill it but it will try to auto restart
[11:16] <intelikey> init can not be killed.    if you don't even know that.  this discussion is over.
[11:17] <aliasfred> thomas__: do 'gcc --version' in a terminal and see the reply
[11:18] <thomas__> it says "gcc (GCC) 4.0.3 (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5)" along with some copyright-things
[11:18] <thomas__> looks right to me
[11:18] <aliasfred> thomas__: ok so you got gcc installed and 'findable', now you have to find out why the ./configure fails to find it
[11:18] <intelikey> kosh   just for your pece of mind.   if at any time init is killed, kernel panic     no if's and's or but's about it.
[11:18] <aliasfred> but it is pretty weird
[11:19] <aliasfred> configure and gcc version were launched under the same user ?
[11:19] <aliasfred> maybe a diff in the PATH conf
[11:19] <thomas__> yes
[11:20] <thomas__> I just tried compiling a hello-world program. says it can't find stdio.h - something's pretty wrong!
[11:20] <aliasfred> oh maybe you simple dont have the libc header
[11:20] <thomas__> it doesn't seem as the configure is flawed in any way (btw, it's php5)
[11:20] <aliasfred> !build
[11:20] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:21] <aliasfred> look at that
[11:21] <aliasfred> if after that helloworld fails to compile, there is an issue :)
[11:21] <thomas__> I'll check it out, thanks :)
[11:26] <elvstone> hello.
[11:26] <elvstone> the link at http://kubuntu.org/documentation.php to http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/release-notes/C/ar01s01.html is a 404..
[11:27] <elvstone> who do i bug about it?
[11:27] <elvstone> also; is there any kubuntu specific release notes for 6.06.1?
[11:27] <aliasfred> see #kubuntu-devel
[11:27] <intelikey> maybe someone in #ubuntu  about the 404
[11:28] <elvstone> alright.
[11:29] <glen_> hi - where should xine-lib be installed for use by amarok?
[11:31] <intelikey> !info xine-lib
[11:31] <ubotu> Package xine-lib does not exist in dapper
[11:31] <intelikey> hmmm
[11:31] <intelikey> glen_ where got you that ?
[11:32] <Healot> it's libxine
[11:33] <intelikey> !info libxine
[11:33] <ubotu> Package libxine does not exist in dapper
[11:33] <intelikey> ?
[11:33] <glen_> intelikey: well, the folder's xine-lib
[11:33] <tk> !info amarok-xine-lib
[11:33] <ubotu> Package amarok-xine-lib does not exist in dapper
[11:33] <jarska> I have a problem with Installing java, Im a beginner so could u help me a bit?
[11:33] <tk> its something like that in adept
[11:34] <fdoving> !java > jarska
[11:34] <tk> i just rebooted to windows for some stuff, otherwise I'd tellya exactly
[11:34] <glen_> tk: the repo version won't play flac
[11:34] <Healot> !find libxine
[11:34] <ubotu> Found: libxinerama-dev, libxinerama1, libxinerama1-dbg, libxine-extracodecs, libxine1c2 (and 2 others)
[11:34] <intelikey> amarok-xine - xine engine for the amaroK audio player
[11:34] <intelikey> that ^  ?
[11:34] <Hobbsee> you usually want libxine-extracodecs
[11:35] <Hobbsee> glen_: ^
[11:35] <Hobbsee> ohh...that..
[11:35] <intelikey> i'm not sure what glen_ has got or what glen_ is trying to do with it....
[11:36] <glen_> intelikey: won't play flac -:( i'm trying to install a patched xine-lib
[11:36] <thomas__> aliasfred:  thanks for the help, it seems I was missing the build-essential package
[11:36] <aliasfred> thomas__: cool :)
[11:36] <thomas__> but a very nice site to refer to. very easily understandable for beginners :)
[11:36] <tk> glen_: ohh if you are going for flac, yah it doesnt, the latest version of amarok does I believe though
[11:37] <Hobbsee> for edgy, at least
[11:37] <glen_> tk: which version?
[11:37] <Hobbsee> glen_: 1.4.2beta1
[11:37] <tk> glen_: let me reboot and see, I'm done with what I needed win for
[11:37] <glen_> i have 1.4.1
[11:38] <intelikey> _root you faker.  you're not root
[11:38] <jarska> Hey all! What have i done wrong while installing sun java, when it says that "Please free up the required disc space and try again."
[11:38] <_root> hello
[11:39] <Shan_> better?
[11:39] <intelikey> :)
[11:39] <Shan_> i had to boot in the recovery mode
[11:39] <Shan_> so I am root right now
[11:39] <Shan_> lol
[11:39] <Shan_> can someone tell me how i can add repositories to adept?
[11:39] <intelikey> oh then you are root....    don't irc as root if there is any way to keep form it.
[11:40] <Healot> can I run xchat by being Administrator hohoho?
[11:41] <BoSJo> Hi all. fairly new linux user tryuing to settle down with a distro, but wonders what the diffs. are on Ubuntu and Kubuntu? any good links to describe this?
[11:41] <intelikey> Shan_ copy that to /etc/apt  and get out of root before some script kiddy sees you.
[11:41] <Shan_> i know... but i havent used Kubuntu in ages and it wont boot normally
[11:41] <Shan_> lemme try again
[11:41] <Shan_> thanx mate
[11:41] <aliasfred> BoSJo: ubuntu run gnome desktop by default, while kubuntu run kde-desktop by default
[11:41] <intelikey> np
[11:42] <aliasfred> BoSJo: it is very simply to switch from ubuntu to kubuntu, or viceversa, once you installed one
[11:42] <BoSJo> aliasfred: is that basically all the diffs. to it?
[11:42] <aliasfred> simple=simple
[11:42] <aliasfred> yes
[11:42] <Shan_> damn.. where does the file get saved?
[11:42] <harmental> hi...does anybody know wich repo should be added in kubuntu to keep R up to date?
[11:43] <intelikey> kde-desktop ?    kde==kay desktop enviornment        so  kde-desktop == kay desktop enviroment desktop  ???
[11:43] <BoSJo> aliasfred: Ok thanks. ill go for Kubuntu as a start.
[11:43] <Shan_> done
[11:43] <Shan_> brb
[11:43] <aliasfred> harmental: the ones by default are the one for that
[11:43] <jarska> hei, what should i do if konsole reports a problem like "please free up disc space and try again." while installing java?
[11:43] <aliasfred> jarska: you should add space or free space :)
[11:43] <Healot> free some space?
[11:44] <jarska> how to?
[11:44] <aliasfred> aka delete unnecessary files
[11:44] <jarska> I have free disc space
[11:44] <tk> i guess it doesnt play flac for me
[11:44] <aliasfred> or install on a larger partition
[11:44] <aliasfred> jarska: how much ?
[11:44] <jarska> i have just installed linux
[11:44] <tk> ahh wait, im not on the beta verison
[11:44] <intelikey> jarska probably install it as root
[11:44] <jarska> i do
[11:44] <intelikey> !sudo
[11:44] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:44] <harmental> aliasfred:  they are not updated
[11:45] <BoSJo> What is the default version number for Evolution in Ubuntu? (Dont wanne compile from cvs yet), and does it run just as well in Kubuntu (KDE)?
[11:45] <aliasfred> harmental: ?
[11:45] <glen_> tk: how should xine-lib (patched) be configured so that amarok will use it?
[11:45] <aliasfred> !info evolution
[11:45] <ubotu> evolution: The groupware suite. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 4586 kB, installed size 34184 kB
[11:46] <tk> glen: I thought I had it working, but I guess I dont, so I dunno
[11:46] <aliasfred> BoSJo: i dunno about it running on kde, it will run but the 'aspect' of it is unknown to me
[11:46] <glen_> tk: ./configure --prefix=?
[11:46] <BoSJo> aliasfred: thanks, now i also know the Boot in here :-)
[11:46] <niels> lo everybody
[11:46] <tk> i only have a 1 CD that I ripped with FLAC to see the  difference, and i cant play, my guess would be to reconfig amarok with a path to the newer xine
[11:47] <aliasfred> BoSJo: :)
[11:47] <harmental> aliasfred: the R version in the repos are2.2.1 from december 2005...the latest version of R is 2.3.1 from july 2006...
[11:47] <niels> can sb tell me which version of the kubuntu kernel they use? cos i first had 2.6.15-23 and it updated to 2.6.15-26 but that doesn't work... it blocks while loading...
[11:47] <glen_> tk: thanks for your suggestion
[11:47] <niels> does sb else has that same problem
[11:47] <tk> niels: I use -26,....
[11:47] <aliasfred> harmental: ah ok you have a software called R and the version packaged for ubuntu it not the last one
[11:48] <niels> tk have you got problems with that?
[11:48] <aliasfred> harmental: ok in this case you likely have to compile it yourself
[11:48] <tk> niels: nah works great
[11:48] <intelikey> niels rebuild the initramfs for the new version
[11:49] <tk> tk@electron:~$ uname -a
[11:49] <tk> Linux electron 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:49] <niels> i have that same version
[11:49] <niels> tk, do you have experience with updating kernels and deleting kernels and thing like that?
[11:49] <tk> niels
[11:49] <harmental> aliasfred: thats it...but actually my problem is that im quite a newbie...so i have the repo address: http://cran.r-project.org/bin/linux/ubuntu/ but i dont know which lines should i add to my sources.list...
[11:49] <niels> yes?
[11:49] <tk> niels: I 've dont it by hand before... but I just did a full upgrade from Adept
[11:49] <tk> sorry, tapped enter on accident
[11:49] <niels> np:)
[11:49] <intelikey> sudo initramfs -o /boot/initramfs.img-2.6.15-26-386 2.6.15-26-386  (assumes 386 kernel)
[11:50] <intelikey> and make sure that grub points to the new one.
[11:50] <niels> k just forget that about the kernels but tk, can you help me another time(now i have problems with my music)
[11:50] <tk> lol
[11:50] <aliasfred> harmental: oh good it is already packaged
[11:51] <tk> niels: whats your music problem?
[11:51] <tk> ohh crap, glen_ my music might work, I forgot to remount my USB drive
[11:51] <Shan_> ahh
[11:51] <Shan_> better
[11:51] <harmental> aliasfred: yep...but not updated in ubuntu original repos
[11:51] <Shan_> intelikey: so now what
[11:51] <Shan_> lol
[11:51] <intelikey> now what?  which what?
[11:52] <Shan_> i copied the file
[11:52] <intelikey> oh sudo apt-get update       close adept first.
[11:52] <aliasfred> harmental: so yes it is possible to add that directly in sources.list but i dunno the exact format
[11:52] <niels> tk, when I want to play some music (located on my hd so that isn't the problem) it just doesn't play
[11:52] <intelikey> Shan_ when that finishes  you're set.
[11:53] <niels> amarok opens and when I push play then another time it doesn't play at all:(
[11:53] <harmental> i dont quite understand the use of deb, main, stable....and all those prefixes...
[11:53] <harmental> anybody?
[11:53] <aliasfred> harmental: your next step is to ask 'i have an url of a apt repository and i would like to add it in the sources.list, what is the format of the line to add'
[11:53] <kraut> moin
[11:54] <jarska> how can i manage where to install a program?
[11:55] <intelikey> harmental and the answer will be something like "deb http://<your.url> dapper <title of the repo> "
[11:55] <harmental> intelikey: title of my repo??
[11:56] <intelikey> harmental yep
[11:56] <tk> niels: have you installed any codecs since you setup kubuntu?
[11:56] <intelikey> harmental like  main    universe   backports   ...
[11:56] <tk> hmm why wont my ntfs mount now....
[11:57] <intelikey> jarska ???   "<jarska> how can i manage where to install a program?"  what you talking about willis ?
[11:57] <harmental> intelikey: where do i find that?
[11:57] <aliasfred> harmental: it is the url you shown me
[11:57] <intelikey> harmental what's the url ?
[11:57] <niels> jes i did tk but i think that doesn't work
[11:57] <niels> can you tell me what codecs especially i have to install
[11:57] <tk> niels: what did you installed?
[11:58] <niels> (with adept, or synaptic, or konsole,...
[11:58] <jarska> intelikey , I have no idea how to add programs or do anything. :D
[11:58] <niels> i installed in konsolesudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[11:58] <intelikey> !adept
[11:58] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[11:58] <intelikey> jarska ^   read that
[11:59] <jarska> intelikey , ok ill try ^^
[11:59] <tk> niels: the package you need is from universe/multiverse
[12:01] <tk> niels: i msg'd you a link that explains what you need to do
[12:01] <niels> k
[12:01] <niels> but i think i have the link...
[12:02] <niels> when i try to download those packages (ugly-multiverse and bad-multiverse i think) they say that it isn't available
[12:02] <niels> neither in konsole, neither in adept
[12:03] <harmental> intelikey: maybe this will help....this is what iv efound in a release file:
[12:03] <TheGateKeeper> niels: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories
[12:03] <harmental> Label: CTS's R backport for Ubuntu/dapper
[12:03] <jarska> intelikey , what if the programlist doesn't include programs that im looking for?
[12:03] <harmental> Suite: stable
[12:03] <harmental> Codename: dapper
[12:03] <harmental> Version: 6.06
[12:04] <harmental> Components: main
[12:04] <intelikey> jarska you enable other repos
[12:04] <intelikey> !repos
[12:04] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:05] <protec> hi!
[12:06] <intelikey> harmental looks like all standard stuff there    what is your issue exactly ?     you do know that you can copy and paste that don't you?
[12:06] <intelikey> i don't mean paste into irc....  i mean paste into kate   then save as  sources.list
[12:08] <harmental> intelikey: i dont know which title should i add...i've tried dapper main; main; every possible combination but either it is malformed or doesnt find the package...
[12:09] <aliasfred> harmental: be sure to do 'apt-get update' after you modified the sources.list, it will tell apt to load the package list from the repositories
[12:10] <harmental> aliasfred: I know that...
[12:10] <apu> how can i save a webpage, with all of that links
[12:10] <harmental> that is when it fails...
[12:10] <apu> ?
[12:11] <aliasfred> ok
[12:11] <tk> glen_: yah after remounting my drives my version doesnt work with the right xine engine either
[12:11] <intelikey> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[12:11] <intelikey> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[12:11] <intelikey> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse
[12:12] <intelikey> harmental and anyone else updating their sources.list  ^
[12:13] <harmental> intelikey: i know how to add standard repos from ubuntu.com....what i want to do is add a particular repo that has a precompiled version for ubuntu of the soft im interested in ...(http://cran.r-project.org/bin/linux/ubuntu/)...take a look and you'll see...
[12:15] <intelikey> harmental looks like a dapper-backports main    to me
[12:16] <glen_> tk: yeah, this bug is documented
[12:16] <harmental> intelikey: ill try that and let you know thx!
[12:16] <edylie> anyone installed flash8 on konquerer?
[12:16] <intelikey> harmental http://cran.r-project.org/bin/linux/ubuntu/dapper/Release
[12:18] <niels> the problems still exists, my music won't play
[12:18] <harmental> intelikey: using this line deb http://cran.r-project.org/bin/linux/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main
[12:18] <harmental> i get this error: Failed to fetch http://cran.r-project.org/bin/linux/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[12:19] <harmental> intelikey: the problem is that the package is directly under the ubuntu folder...
[12:19] <aliasfred> harmental: if you have toomuch trouble setting this up, you could download all the package by hand and install them from your local disk
[12:20] <harmental> aliasfred: i know but i would like to keep it automatically updated along with the rest of my packages....(one of the things i love about linux!)
[12:20] <aliasfred> so keep trying :)
[12:21] <harmental> and it shouldnt be that hard....:o(
[12:21] <aliasfred> another possibility is to ask the people who have setup this repository for the line to add
[12:22] <aliasfred> if they are setup the repository they surely know how to include it in the soruces.list
[12:22] <aliasfred> maybe there is a wiki or a mailing list
[12:23] <Shan_> whew
[12:25] <Shan_> ok.. how do I get my Kubuntu to see my sata hdd?
[12:26] <intelikey> harmental that repository is not usable with a standard *bunt apt configuration.   the database files are not in a standard location.
[12:26] <Shan_> anyone?
[12:26] <intelikey> and yes i agree with your former complaint.
[12:27] <intelikey> Shan_ maybe sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/blah ?
[12:27] <glen_> Shan_: is your controller card supported?
[12:28] <harmental> intelikey: that i understood...so there is no way to add that repo to my sources.list?
[12:28] <Shan_> glen_: how do I check?
[12:28] <Shan_> intelikey: when I do a mount command it doesnt even show me my sata hdd
[12:28] <intelikey> Shan_ what did mount say ?
[12:29] <aliasfred> Shan_: maybe because it is not mounted :)
[12:29] <Shan_> lol aliasfred possible
[12:29] <aliasfred> Shan_: you can try qparted to see if linux does find the harddisk first
[12:29] <aliasfred> Shan_: then to mount it ? :)
[12:29] <Shan_> i'm having serious trouble here.. cause it wont even show me the other directories on THIS hdd
[12:30] <Shan_> whats the command to see all the storage media?
[12:30] <glen_> Shan_: try qtparted
[12:30] <intelikey> yeah if you ran mount alone  i don't expect it to show.   but if you did what i said ^ up there i expect either an error message or you need to look in /media/blah
[12:31] <intelikey> sudo fdisk -l
[12:31] <Shan_> ahh yes
[12:31] <Shan_> fdisk
[12:31] <Shan_> *doh*
[12:31] <Shan_> still wont show me sda
[12:31] <Shan_> just shows hda
[12:31] <Shan_> erm
[12:31] <Shan_> hdd
[12:31] <intelikey> oh i'mm lagging....   i'll step out.
[12:31] <intelikey> no not fdisk     sudo fdisk -l
[12:32] <glen_> Shan_: try lspci and see if the controller shows up
[12:32] <Shan_> hehe yeah i just had a blonde moment there
[12:33] <Horn37> bonjour tout le monde, y a t'il des gens qui connaisse bien xine?
[12:33] <aliasfred> !fr
[12:33] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:33] <Shan_> glen_: ISA bridge?
[12:34] <glen_> no, should say serial ata storage controllers i think
[12:34] <glen_> Shan_: i take it it's an onboard controller?
[12:34] <Shan_> yeah
[12:35] <glen_> Shan_: which mobo?
[12:35] <Shan_> as in I plug the data cable directly on the mo bo
[12:35] <opsidao> hip
[12:35] <Shan_> A8V-MX ASUS
[12:36] <glen_> Shan_: http://www.google.ie/search?hl=en&q=A8V-MX+ASUS+linux+compatible+sata&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
[12:37] <Shan_> :/
[12:38] <glen_> Shan_: i had aproblem with the sata controller on an ECS mobo. got sick of it and just bought a pci sata controller and every linux distro works with it. only cost 25
[12:39] <glen_> Shan_: well 29 : http://komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=118181
[12:39] <Shan_> oh
[12:40] <Shan_> sounds like the only solution then
[12:40] <Shan_> thats pathetic tho
[12:41] <glen_> Shan_: it's annoying, but sometimes the onboard controllers have flaky/non-compliant chipsets
[12:41] <intelikey> probably not the only solution.  linux supports more hardware than any other OS in the world.
[12:42] <glen_> intelikey: true, but cold comfort to him
[12:43] <Shan_> didnt have any trouble using the sata on XP
[12:43] <Shan_> :/
[12:43] <Shan_> anyways forget the sata.. i alreayd dual boot but how come I dont see the other drives on this HDD>
[12:43] <glen_> Shan_: have you mounted them?
[12:44] <niels> guys, i'm really turning crazy
[12:44] <niels> my music won't play:(
[12:44] <Shan_> i'm trying
[12:44] <Shan_> but it gives me errors
[12:44] <intelikey> other drives on this hdd ???
[12:44] <intelikey> partitions
[12:44] <Shan_> sorry yeah partitions
[12:44] <intelikey> what error?
[12:44] <Shan_> /dev/hdd5            1252        1309      465853+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[12:45] <Shan_> thats what I see
[12:45] <glen_> Shan_: can't mount swap partition
[12:45] <Shan_> so when I try to mount hdd5 it says
[12:45] <Shan_> hmm
[12:45] <Shan_> how bout this one?
[12:45] <Shan_> /dev/hdd2            1252        1309      465885    5  Extended
[12:46] <intelikey> that's mounted as swap
[12:46] <intelikey> that's swap
[12:46] <Shan_> hmmm
[12:46] <Shan_> so then i dont see anyting else
[12:46] <Shan_> which is weird
[12:47] <glen_> Shan_: mkdir test      then mount -t <filesystem type>  /dev/hdd2 test
[12:48] <intelikey> Shan_ hda2 is the extended partition hda5 is the logical dirve in the extended partition   and it's formated as swap     free    will confirm it's being used.
[12:48] <Shan_> oh
[12:49] <harmental> intelikey and aliasfred: i got it running! the line should have been deb http://cran.cict.fr/bin/linux/ubuntu dapper/
[12:49] <Shan_> hda or hdd?
[12:49] <harmental> using the standard debian format
[12:49] <aliasfred> harmental: excelent :)
[12:49] <intelikey> glen_ that won't mount unless the partition tabel is screwed and there is a filesystem writen dirrectly to an extenede partition    (not likely)
[12:50] <glen_> intelikey: i just noticed that it was extended
[12:50] <intelikey> harmental interesting i tested that ....   err without the trailing /
[12:50] <Shan_> intelikey: says wrong fs type for all vfat ntfs ext2 and ext3
[12:50] <Shan_> the thing is why cant I see the partitions?
[12:51] <harmental> intelikey: ya see..it was not that "trivial".... ;op
[12:51] <intelikey> Shan_ see it where ?
[12:51] <Shan_> in fdisk
[12:52] <Shan_> sudo fdisk -l i.e.
[12:53] <intelikey> Shan_ pastebin the output of  fdisk -l /dev/hda
[12:53] <Shan_> k
[12:53] <intelikey> or is that  hdd
[12:53] <Shan_> hdd
[12:54] <Shan_> Cannot open /dev/hdd
[12:54] <Shan_> lol
[12:54] <Shan_> wtf
[12:54] <glen_> Shan_: pastebin the output of 'mount' while you're at it
[12:54] <Shan_> k
[12:54] <glen_> Shan_: put sudo before fdisk
[12:55] <Shan_> k
[12:55] <Shan_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20372
[12:56] <Shan_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20374
[12:56] <Shan_> :/
[12:59] <Shan_> well?
[12:59] <glen_> Shan_: there's nothing else to see: you have your root partition on /dev/hdd1 and a swap partition
[12:59] <Shan_> this is a 40 gb hdd
[12:59] <Shan_> i just see 10 gb
[12:59] <Shan_> so the other 30 gb is unformatted is what you are saying?
[01:00] <intelikey> there is nothing special about that Shan_  you have one usable partition on hdd and it's mounted as /   the system root   the other partition is the swap space.
[01:00] <glen_> Shan_: paste df -T -h
[01:01] <Shan_> ok
[01:02] <Shan_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20375
[01:03] <Shan_> grrr
[01:04] <Shan_> strange
[01:04] <Shan_> :/
[01:05] <intelikey> Shan_ you have free space on the disk...   sudo cfdisk /dev/hdd
[01:05] <intelikey> see if it shows free space ?
[01:07] <Shan_> yup
[01:07] <Shan_> shows bout 30 gb free space
[01:07] <Shan_> how do I put it to use/
[01:07] <intelikey> Shan_ you are in the partition too
[01:07] <intelikey> use it.
[01:08] <intelikey> i think i'm finished here for the day.
[01:08] <mondo> n
[01:09] <Shan_> ok..
[01:09] <Shan_> sweet
[01:10] <Shan_> need to reboot
[01:10] <Shan_> brb
[01:12] <ninHer> hola a tod@s
[01:12] <zealot> hey
[01:13] <zealot_> hey
[01:13] <zealot_> :)
[01:13] <Philip5> zealot_: hehe, did it help?
[01:13] <Ash-Fox> klipper appears to be broken, even though I have 'synchronise contents of the clipboard and selection' selected, it still doesn't.
[01:13] <zealot_> Philip5: tryingen the client Konvensation! so just trying :)
[01:14] <mondo> hi to all - ciao a tutti
[01:14] <zealot_> but i dont like it! bye
[01:14] <Philip5> zealot_: aha
[01:22] <_kalm> Wow... Its quiet
[01:24] <Jack1> hi
[01:24] <Jack1> how can i get an leo -dictionary plugin for konqueror?
[01:24] <Jack1> like google search?
[01:26] <_kalm> Id love to help but im not using my comp.
[01:27] <Shan_> whew
[01:27] <ubuntu> can anyone tell me how reliable resizing hfsplus partitions with gparted is? i want to install kubuntu on my powerbook g4, though im notsure if thats safe
[01:27] <ninHer> Jack1: leo ?
[01:27] <ubuntu> Jack1: you can edit the search shortcuts
[01:28] <ubuntu> ninHer: dict.leo.org
[01:28] <CVirus> how can I manage the startup services ?
[01:28] <ubuntu> Jack1: settings - configure konqueror - web shortcuts
[01:28] <Shan_> ok.. what fs type is a Linux partition?
[01:28] <Jucato> CVirus: startup services or startup programs? (services are the daemons/process running in the background)
[01:28] <ubuntu> Shan_: could be anything
[01:29] <Shan_> i tried ext2 and ext3
[01:29] <Shan_> says wrong fs type
[01:29] <ninHer> Jack1: i prefer use a console, and dict whatever
[01:29] <ubuntu> Shan_: ext3 most likely, but xfs, reiserfs, etc. could all be possible
[01:29] <CVirus> Jucato: services
[01:29] <ubuntu> Shan_: -t auto ?
[01:29] <Jucato> System Settings > System Services (in the Administration group)
[01:29] <Shan_> says I must specif
[01:29] <Shan_> specify
[01:29] <CVirus> Jucato: a command line tool
[01:29] <Jucato> oh...
whats the konsole command then?
[01:30] <Jucato> that I wouldn't know. you didn't mention it :-D
[01:30] <Shan_> i just created two logical volumes using cfdisk
[01:30] <Jack1> sometimes graphical is easier <ninHer>
[01:30] <Shan_> ubuntu: i just created two logical volumes using cfdisk
[01:30] <ninHer> Jack1: i don't think so
[01:30] <ubuntu> Shan_: you need to create a filesystem on them first
[01:30] <Jucato> to each, his own. different strokes for different folks...
[01:31] <Shan_> ubuntu:  how?
[01:31] <ubuntu> Shan_: the logcal volumes (i assume you mean partitions and not LVM volumes) are just the partitions
[01:31] <ninHer> Jack1: open a console and then you write: dict wordtofindout
[01:31] <ubuntu> Shan_: well make sure you know what you're doing first =)
[01:31] <ubuntu> Shan_: know the device names
[01:32] <ubuntu> Shan_: then mke2fs -j /dev/foo will create an ext3 filesystem on it (and most likely annihilate every bit of fs data on it)
[01:32] <ubuntu> Shan_: ext3 = ext2 + journaling, that's why you use mke2fs (and add -j for journaling)
[01:32] <ubuntu> Shan_: if you do this on the wrong device, you may not like the results though =)
[01:33] <Shan_> ubuntu hehe i know.. i know the device names
[01:33] <Shan_> aight its doing it lol
[01:34] <Shan_> is it waiting for an input from me when it says "Creating Journal"?
[01:35] <Shan_> ok its done
[01:35] <Shan_> lol
[01:35] <ubuntu> Shan_: now you should be able to mount it
[01:35] <Electrolyte> Time to try out installing Kubuntu once more, hopefully I have everything set.
[01:36] <Shan_> ok
[01:36] <pituka> Hi there! I'm sitting on a Dell Laptop and I'm searching for a way to auto connect my Wireless Internet connection. Couldn't find a way to do it with the "Wireless Assistant". Establishing manually works fine (with root pass). Any Ideas?
[01:36] <Electrolyte> trappist you there?
[01:37] <Shan_> hmm
[01:37] <pituka> I'm not sittin "on" it btw :P
[01:39] <itachi> @pituka
[01:39] <itachi> what's your distro?
[01:39] <mray> Kubuntu of course :)
[01:39] <itachi> ah sorry wrong question
[01:39] <mray> and i updated yesterday
[01:40] <itachi> I've read the issue reg: ras
[01:40] <itachi> in the ubuntu forums
[01:40] <itachi> i mean 803.11
[01:40] <mray> what do you mean with "reg: ras" ?
[01:41] <itachi> 803.11
[01:41] <itachi> I manually configured mine there
[01:41] <itachi> try typing lspci
[01:41] <mray> well, isn't that more a KDE issue?
[01:41] <itachi> ah no
[01:41] <itachi> the wireless thingy?
[01:41] <itachi> I guess not
[01:41] <mray> the wireless assistant thingy
[01:42] <itachi> not pretty sure
[01:42] <grothesk> Switching to fullscreen in kaffeine completely crashes my machine running 'via' drivers. What can I do about it?
[01:42] <itachi> did it work in gnome?
[01:42] <mray> it is the laptop of my girlfriend - and i want to avoid messing with stuff i don't know.
[01:42] <itachi> try typing lspci
[01:42] <itachi> if the wireless device shows in there
[01:42] <mray> @grotesk: use mplayer or VLC i made better experience with them.
[01:42] <itachi> then there's no problem
[01:43] <itachi> if it shows Unknown Device
[01:43] <itachi> shucks
[01:43] <itachi> that's the problem
[01:44] <mray> no unknown devices.
[01:44] <mray> as i said: it works pretty fine if i just KLICK once manually on the connection in the wireless assistant!
[01:45] <mray> i fire up the assustant, and there appears a list of available networks - i choose the right one - click -wait -all is ok.
[01:45] <mray> so i'm already _almost_ happy :)
[01:46] <mray> but it is inconvenient - because i need to enter the sudo pass every time - and my girlfriend will prefer windows as long as that annoyance is there.
[01:46] <itachi> ah that's the problem
[01:46] <itachi> =)
[01:47] <mray> so i believe very strongly kubuntu made a great job in making work all the hardware.
[01:48] <mray> but there is nowhere any button that says something like : "please try to connect to that connection on startup"
[01:48] <mray> at least i didn't find any :(
[01:48] <ubuntu> hello
[01:49] <joako> hola..........im trying to install d new kde but it say will also need the dapper-updates reponsitory enabled. how can i do this??
[01:51] <mray> @joako: start adept.
[01:52] <mray> then go to view -> manage repositories.
[01:52] <mray> i'm not a kubuntu or linux guru btw.
[01:52] <joako> ok thanx
[01:52] <mray> the grayed out lines are deactivated.
[01:53] <grothesk> Neither mplayer nor vlc will play a DVD.
[01:53] <mray> rightklick on them to activate them
[01:53] <joako> thanx i
[01:54] <mray> @grotesk: that is a problem of the proprietary codec.
[01:54] <asimon> joako: What mray told you is also illustrated here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:54] <mray> you will have to download an ILLEGAL package of the DVD codec afaik.
[01:55] <mray> the DVD consortium is a group of $-addicted commercialists. you are forced to pay for the codec to watch a DVD. unbelievable but that's the way it is.
[01:58] <grothesk> mray: No. It does play DVD. But X keeps crashing when switching to fullscreen.
[01:58] <grothesk> That is in kaffeine/xine, vlc and mplayer.
[01:59] <grothesk> So there is a problem with X, not with codecs.
[01:59] <asimon> grothesk: X crashed when going fullscreen with all of these players? Then I would suppose that the bug lies not in the players but maybe in the X driver for your graphics card.
[02:01] <mray> is there a way to establish an auto-connection to a wireless connection in kubuntu?
[02:02] <thor> hello there all
[02:02] <mray> hi
[02:02] <grothesk> asimon: That's what I think too.
[02:02] <thor> I would like some help if thats posable
[02:02] <grothesk> But how can I narrow it down?
[02:02] <mray> grotesk: did you install your ati or nvidia drivers or something like that?
[02:02] <thor> my kubuntu system at work has stoped my keyboard from working
[02:02] <asimon> grothesk: You don't use Xgl, do you? If yes, that could be the cause, it's known to be a little bit unstable.
[02:03] <grothesk> No. no XGL here.
[02:03] <thor> I can log into kdm but after I log in my keyboard is history
[02:03] <grothesk> asimon: I even can't ssh into the box when it crashed. Completely frozen.
[02:03] <Electrolyte> Anyone able to help me get my sound card working? I've got 2 but Kubuntu is using my Yamaha DS-XG card by default not my Audigy 2 ZS.
[02:04] <Electrolyte> I have no idea how to get kubuntu to switch cards.
[02:04] <thor> i did install my nvidia drivers yes and I have twin view on but I dont knkow if thats the problim becouse if I log in as root it works fine
[02:04] <asimon> grothesk: you could have a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log and Xorg.0.log.old, maybe there are some error messages at the end.
[02:04] <grothesk> No. nothing in there. Did already check that.
[02:05] <mray> thor: i have no idea. but akeyboard shouldn't be such a har component to detect and use.
[02:05] <grothesk> So I'll switch back to 'vesa' driver. :-(
[02:05] <mray> thor: what i want to say is: "strange..."
[02:06] <alterato> thor: I had the same problem this week when installing kubuntu for the first time
[02:06] <mray> grotesk: maybe re-install your drivers?
[02:06] <alterato> in the end getting rid of kwallet solved it for me
[02:07] <Electrolyte> Nobody knows how to get Kubuntu to switch sound cards then?
[02:07] <mray> Electrolyte: where did you look so far?
[02:07] <Electrolyte> Er, only the audio system settings and the volume control - I don't know where else to look.
[02:09] <Electrolyte> I need to use the Audigy 2 ZS since it supports hardware buffers (and I got that to work in SuSE 10)
[02:09] <mray> that's where i would have looked, too - but i'm not a linux specialist anyway :P
[02:09] <grothesk> mray: It is a fresh installation.
[02:09] <Electrolyte> lol okay
[02:10] <mray> Electrolyte: you _could_ de-activate one in the bios right?
[02:10] <Electrolyte> No, they're both PCI cards.
[02:10] <mray> grotesk: so you use the drivers that come with kubuntu?
[02:10] <Electrolyte> I'd have to end up removing it, but I use the Yamaha DS-XG's MIDI Synthesizer in Windows.
[02:10] <mray> grothesk: maybe you should try some official drivers from the manufacturer
[02:11] <mray> Electrolyte: that is a problem ^^
[02:12] <mray> Electrolyte: i wonder wether kde or kubuntu is able to handle two cards at all.
[02:13] <mray> Electrolyte: did you try different soundsystems?
[02:13] <Electrolyte> No, I have to use ALSA for hardware buffers on the Audigy.
[02:13] <Electrolyte> And I think KDE does support multiple cards as I see them in the volume control.
[02:13] <Electrolyte> As a little pop-down menu.
[02:14] <mray> Electrolyte: hm. that's odd. i'm running out of ideas, too. :) i came here to search for help myself :P i think this channel lacks some gurus!
[02:14] <administrador> Anybody know's to modify a file: menu.Ist, to put WindowsXP default booting
[02:14] <asimon> Electrolyte: there are some short instructions for "Configuring default soundcards / stopping multiple soundcards from switching" at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449 , maybe they will help. But you have to edit files with an editor, no gui for that.
[02:15] <alterato> Electrolyte: are you having no system sounds at all and no sounds in apps also? Things like mplayer and xine can be configured to use a specific device
[02:15] <glen_> administrador: just move it to the top of the list
[02:15] <Electrolyte> No system sounds, not tried a program that can use mutliple cards yet.
[02:15] <administrador> How?? :|
[02:16] <administrador> I dont understand
[02:17] <Electrolyte> Can't test audio files either on Xine since Kubuntu can't read my NTFS drives :(
[02:17] <mray> administrador: i think you will have to edit some text files manually. inside that textfiles you will have to write some entries just _above_ others
[02:17] <thor> help please
[02:17] <glen_> administrador: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst   then move the xp entry to the top of the list
[02:17] <aliasfred> administrador: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#default use the 'default' command in menu.lst
[02:18] <mray> thor: i believe you have to repeat yourself in a channel if you want to have luck.
[02:18] <mray> :P
[02:19] <mray> i bet nobody in here remembers why i came in here.
[02:19] <mray> i won't get any help if i _just_ ask for it.
[02:19] <mray> just a hint ;)
[02:20] <administrador> but i already try to edit /boot/grub/menu.Ist and next I can't save
[02:20] <glen_> administrador: did you open with sudo?
[02:20] <DHGE> administrador: do it as admi... -> root
[02:20] <administrador> I Use Kubuntu
[02:20] <aliasfred> Admistrador, edit it with kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:20] <administrador> last version
[02:21] <mray> administrador: you know what "root" means?
[02:21] <administrador> yes
[02:21] <administrador> but i can't enter by root
[02:21] <aliasfred> Admistrador, edit it with kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:21] <mray> if you can't save - it is because you have no root rights.
[02:22] <administrador> yes
[02:22] <administrador> e knoe
[02:22] <administrador> waht sudo
[02:22] <mray> administrador: you need to start an application with root rights. no need to log in extra as root.
[02:22] <administrador> Ok
[02:23] <glen_> administrador: use aliasfred's command above
[02:23] <administrador> but, when i installed Kubuntu I configuring to Admin
[02:23] <mray> administrador: starting an application with "sudo" infront of its konsole -line will try to start that very application as root.
[02:23] <aliasfred> sometime it is hard to see somebody keeping asking the same question, when you already gave him the answer :)
[02:23] <XVampireX> I need help installing ktorrent on kubuntu
[02:23] <Electrolyte> How do I writeout a file that I'm editing in console?
[02:23] <Electrolyte> I forgot the keyboard command :E
[02:23] <XVampireX> serge@serge-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg -i ktorrent-2.0-i386.deb
[02:23] <DHGE> XVampireX: what does not work?
[02:23] <administrador> but I can't save, but I'm Admin
[02:23] <XVampireX> (Reading database ... 163468 files and directories currently installed.)
[02:23] <XVampireX> Unpacking ktorrent-2.0 (from ktorrent-2.0-i386.deb) ...
[02:23] <XVampireX> dpkg: error processing ktorrent-2.0-i386.deb (--install):
[02:23] <XVampireX>  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-bittorrent.desktop', which is also in package kdelibs-data
[02:23] <XVampireX> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:23] <XVampireX>  ktorrent-2.0-i386.deb
[02:24] <aubergine> Is Kubuntu based on Debian?
[02:24] <XVampireX> Yes
[02:24] <mray> administrador: i doubt that.
[02:24] <aliasfred> aubergine: yes
[02:24] <aubergine> nice
[02:24] <Hobbsee> XVampireX: ack.  current edgy?
[02:24] <DHGE> XVampireX: If U want it badly look at the "force" options man dpkg
[02:24] <mray> administrador: maybe you just named your user "Administrador" ? ;)
[02:24] <aliasfred> XVampireX: it is a bug in the packaging, you may try some --force option in dpkg as a workaround
[02:24] <XVampireX> Hobbsee: Nope, dapper
[02:24] <Hobbsee> XVampireX: user --force-overwrite
[02:24] <XVampireX> oh
[02:25] <Hobbsee> XVampireX: how did ktorrent-2.0 make it to dapper?
[02:25] <XVampireX> No
[02:25] <XVampireX> Manually installing it
[02:25] <administrador> How to enter in root mode
[02:25] <Hobbsee> oh, well.  it's not my problem then :P
[02:25] <XVampireX> Check the first package
[02:25] <Hobbsee> sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/ktorrent*.deb
[02:25] <aliasfred> administrador: man i gave you the command twice already :)
[02:25] <XVampireX> Thanks
[02:26] <mray> Administrator: you know what a console is?
[02:26] <Electrolyte> Brb, need to login & logout for this to take effect.
[02:26] <XVampireX> that worked
[02:26] <glen_> administrador: enter this command now: kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:26] <mray> administrador: you know what a console is?
[02:26] <Hobbsee> XVampireX: just be careful what you force overwrite though.  and of course it worked :P
[02:26] <XVampireX> yup
[02:26] <administrador> I know!!
[02:26] <administrador> but appears that Messange:   sudo: gedit: command not found
[02:26] <administrador> in my console
[02:27] <mray> ok then try to enter what the people in here are suggesting you to enter. if something does not work - let us know what kubuntu is saying.
[02:27] <aliasfred> administrador: the command to enter has been given 3 times to you... why dont you type it ?
[02:28] <administrador> When I put this: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:28] <administrador> appears that Messange:   sudo: gedit: command not found
[02:28] <aliasfred> man :)
[02:28] <aliasfred> administrador: the command to enter has been given 3 times to you... why dont you type it ?
[02:28] <administrador> 3 times
[02:29] <djclue917> administrador: there is no gedit in Kubuntu by default. Just use Kate.
[02:29] <mray> administrador: enter this in caonsole: "kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[02:29] <djclue917> administrador: K Menu -> Run Command...
[02:29] <djclue917> administrador: "kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[02:29] <glen_> that's 4 times now -:)
[02:29] <aliasfred> 5 by my count :)
[02:29] <djclue917> glen_: make that 5. :)
[02:30] <thor> my keyboard doesn't work
[02:30] <thor> my keyboard doesn't work
[02:30] <thor> my keyboard doesn't work
[02:30] <thor> my keyboard doesn't work
[02:30] <glen_> we won't quibble
[02:30] <mray> then how could you type that? :)
[02:30] <thor> how can I  fix it
[02:30] <thor> how can I  fix it
[02:30] <thor> how can I  fix it
[02:30] <alterato> thor: I suggested eariler that the same problem for me was solved by disabling kdewallet
[02:30] <thor> my moouse works
[02:30] <thor> I dont have kwallet at work
[02:30] <DHGE> thor: unhook the last 3 keyboards ;-)
[02:30] <mray> are you SHURE it is not hardware defect?
[02:30] <administrador> I already say that I can edit the file in Kate, but I can't save itg
[02:30] <administrador> I already say that I can edit the file in Kate, but I can't save it
[02:31] <glen_> definitely wasn't 3
[02:31] <thor> I an chatting from how where my kubuntu is grafting niclyu
[02:31] <djclue917> administrador: that's why you need kdesu or sudo.
[02:31] <aliasfred> thor: well it works enought for you to flood :) please stop. try to reboot to reenable your keyboard
[02:31] <thor> I did reboot
[02:31] <djclue917> administrador: just input this command: "kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[02:31] <thor> it worked in the kdm then after login no keyboard
[02:31] <thor> so I loged into console and that worked fine
[02:31] <djclue917> administrador: put it in the Run dialog.
[02:31] <aliasfred> thor, you type quite a lot for a non working keyboard :)
[02:32] <thor> this confused me
[02:32] <aliasfred> thor: and please dont flood anymore
[02:32] <djclue917> administrador: or just input this in the terminal: "sudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[02:32] <thor> so I loged in su +password and did a startx
[02:32] <mray> thor: honestly ihave no idea what to do other than trying to re-install.
[02:32] <thor> so I could get kde in root mode
[02:32] <aliasfred> djclue917: he has to use kdesu and not sudo
[02:32] <djclue917> aliasfred: he can use sudo.
[02:32] <djclue917> aliasfred: from the terminal that is...
[02:32] <DHGE> thor: there might be something wrong in your xorg.conf then
[02:33] <aliasfred> djclue917: nope as X wont allow it. xhaost reight managmeent
[02:33] <thor> I restored form a working backup and it didn't change anything
[02:33] <Electrolyte> This is getting rediculous.
[02:33] <djclue917> aliasfred: X would allow it AFAIK. i wouldn't have said it if it won't work.
[02:33] <Electrolyte> Still no sound, and now my mouse doesn't work.
[02:33] <DHGE> look at the log-files in /var/log
[02:33] <djclue917> aliasfred: it works in my machine.
[02:33] <administrador> Ok, now I can save it, Thanks: djclue917
[02:34] <aliasfred> djclue917: in this case it is a big security hole in your configuration :)
[02:34] <aliasfred> hue ?
[02:34] <thor> why does my keyboard work in root
[02:34] <aliasfred> sudo does X right now ?
[02:34] <djclue917> administrador: that command was like given to you 6 times already.
[02:34] <thor> I realy am getting totaly and utterly fustrated
[02:34] <Electrolyte> Now KDE thinks I have only one soundcard when I have 2, I even made sure 2 were written to the sodding file.
[02:34] <administrador> yes
[02:34] <Electrolyte> And my mouse doesn't work either.
[02:35] <administrador> now
[02:35] <djclue917> aliasfred: then there's a big security hole in the default X config?
[02:35] <administrador> What I edit in this file
[02:35] <administrador> to put WindowsXP to default boot
[02:36] <bohdy> Zdravicko, je tu nekdo schopny a ochotny poradit, jak nastavit touchpad? :)
[02:36] <thor> there are so many admins
[02:36] <aliasfred> djclue917: well this may means 2 things, either your sudo have been recently modified to handle the xhost right, or your default xhost allow any user connected to your box to read/write anything as if it was you. (aka a big security hol)
[02:36] <Electrolyte> Who was the one who gave me that link to sorting out multiple sound cards?
[02:36] <aliasfred> djclue917: so i hope it is the first :)
[02:36] <playtime3> what is the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu
[02:37] <mray> thor: i'm feeling with you. i hate that. if something does not work so badly - i chose to try a plain re-install - if i still need to try out 10000 and it still does not work - i waited a year and had a look at another distribution :P
[02:37] <DHGE> playtime3: k
[02:37] <XVampireX> playtime3: Gnome and KDE
[02:37] <XVampireX> And their relative packages
[02:37] <aliasfred> Electrolyte: on those very specific questions, you may have more chances to get help on #alsa
[02:37] <mray> playtime3: ubuntu uses GNOME kubuntu uses KDE as desktop environment.
[02:37] <playtime3> which one is better?
[02:37] <thor> does any one know of a channel that can actualy help me
[02:37] <playtime3> GNOME or KDE?
[02:38] <DHGE> kubuntu! ask in the OTHER channel...
[02:38] <mray> playtime3: you are in a KUBUNTU channel ;)
[02:38] <djclue917> aliasfred: well, the thing is that I haven't modified sudo nor X.
[02:38] <aliasfred> playtime3: and it is very easy to switch between them, e.g. you install ubuntu you can trivially transform it in kubuntu, and vice versa
[02:38] <playtime3> i dont know, i connected and it takes me to this channel
[02:38] <archangel_> I need some help folks
[02:39] <administrador> What I modify concretelly in file menu.Ist to put windowsxp to default boot
[02:39] <aliasfred> djclue917: so this mean the behaviour on your box is the default one, so i REALLY hopes this is the first possibilities :)
[02:39] <aliasfred> djclue917: my surprise is that this behaviour is not the one on my kubuntu which is a 6.06
[02:40] <djclue917> aliasfred: i doubt that it's a security hole. this was the default behavior of kubuntu since hoary. if that behavior was caused by a security hole, then that would've been fixed a long time ago...
[02:40] <Admiral_Chicago> archangel_, ask then
[02:40] <archangel_> I need help with a laptop that wont boot
[02:40] <aliasfred> djclue917: you mean that you did 'sudo kate' and it works since a long time ?
[02:40] <archangel_> gives errors
[02:41] <aliasfred> djclue917: well i havent modified X or sudo either and it doesnt here :)
[02:41] <djclue917> aliasfred: yeah. i've tried that since hoary.
[02:41] <Admiral_Chicago> archangel_, what kind of errors, what do they say?
[02:41] <mray> archangel_: if you start giving usable information about your problem your chances will be bigger that anybody can help.
[02:42] <archangel_> My bro-in-law was upgrading the kernal and when 98% done he quit the process and shut down the pc. Now it wont boot
[02:42] <administrador> What I modify concretelly in file menu.Ist to put windowsxp to default boot!! anybody say me?????
[02:42] <archangel_> ok
[02:42] <archangel_> 3 errors........
[02:42] <glen_> administrador: just put the xp entry to the top of the list i.e before the ubuntu kernel entries
[02:42] <DHGE> archangel_: why no boot the old, working kernel?
[02:43] <archangel_> that would be great, but I'm a newbie
[02:43] <mray> Is there a way to establish a wireless internet connection on startup on Kubuntu?
[02:43] <DHGE> archangel_: I get a menu (for 5 secs) on boot ...
[02:43] <archangel_> its giving me "ramdisk: ran out of compressed data"
[02:44] <djclue917> archangel_: may you have a problem with your initrd...
[02:44] <administrador> glen: How I doing that???
[02:44] <archangel_> "invalid compressed format (err=1)"
[02:44] <aliasfred> mray: yes, just configure the network interface, and click the option 'init on startup' or something close
[02:44] <djclue917> archangel_: try to edit the grub menu on real-time
[02:44] <archangel_> ok, how?
[02:45] <DHGE> djclue917: newbi-stance??
[02:45] <administrador> glen: How I doing that???
[02:46] <archangel_> the next error isa kernal panic error
[02:46] <DHGE> archangel_: no old kernel anymore???
[02:46] <aliasfred> archangel_: looks like a corrupted storage. like corruypted cd or disk
[02:46] <archangel_> I dont know
[02:46] <glen_> administrador:  cut and paste
[02:46] <archangel_> how do you check?
[02:47] <aliasfred> archangel_: are you booting from cd ?
[02:47] <archangel_> ""unable to mount root fs on unknown block"
[02:47] <archangel_> no HD
[02:47] <archangel_> installed dapper drake
[02:48] <archangel_> am I screwed?
[02:49] <archangel_> this laptop is going to youth camp with one of the leaders tomorrow
[02:49] <archangel_> its GOT to be fixed
[02:49] <Admiral_Chicago> archangel_, did you try booting in recovery mode?
[02:49] <thor> mray I have setup my development box with kubuntu and I am running windows development tools in vmware if
[02:50] <archangel_> how?
[02:50] <Admiral_Chicago> in the grub.
[02:50] <thor> I re install it will mean that I have lost a hole days work and that is not acceptable
[02:50] <Admiral_Chicago> does it turn on and list kubuntu and old kernels
[02:50] <mray> thor:no way to save it somehow?
[02:51] <archangel_> how do I get there? I dont ever see the option
[02:51] <Admiral_Chicago> when you first boot, its a black screen with white text
[02:52] <DHGE> archangel_: get professional help and charge your bro-in-law ...
[02:52] <Admiral_Chicago> no offense, but that won't help him...
[02:52] <archangel_> dude, he doesnt have a dime
[02:53] <Admiral_Chicago> archangel_, try posting in the ubuntu forums.
[02:53] <archangel_> I dont get but a few lines during boot up
[02:53] <mray> archangel_: a installation of Kubuntu is a quick thing. if you need JUSt a working installation.
[02:53] <Admiral_Chicago> and those are the lines of error
[02:54] <Admiral_Chicago> ?
[02:54] <archangel_> I am a very experienced pc user/modder/windows user(over 13 years), but linux is new to me
[02:55] <Electrolyte> Ah crap, 2 fatal errors loading a sound module :/
[02:55] <mray> your brother seems to know at least how to totally screw things.
[02:55] <archangel_> yeah, I was thinking on reinstalling, however, the video driver and all that crap. its nothing like windows
[02:55] <mray> so installing Kubuntu should be easy
[02:55] <Electrolyte> So far my install of Kubuntu has been hell =/
[02:55] <archangel_> I have to ask for help for everything
[02:55] <mray> true. silly question: don't you have windows around there?
[02:56] <edwin> nalioth,
[02:56] <edwin> you here
[02:56] <edwin> oh
[02:56] <Admiral_Chicago> archangel_, try posting in the forums and give a detailed description
[02:56] <archangel_> ok
[02:56] <edwin> nalioth,  code blue
[02:56] <mray> forums are reacting rather slow i think.
[02:56] <Electrolyte> Anyone know what this error means: FATAL: Error inserting snd_emu10k1 (/lib/modules/2.6.15-23-amd64-generic/kernel/sound/pci/emu10k1/snd-emu10k1.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[02:56] <archangel_> same here
[02:56] <edwin> mray help me
[02:56] <Admiral_Chicago> archangel_, i was the same way when i started, I was a total newbie even though i'm good with computer
[02:56] <Electrolyte> The guys in #alsa aren't responding.
[02:56] <edwin> i am looking for a suse linux support room
[02:57] <mray> edwin: did you ask google for it? i know none by heart.
[02:57] <Electrolyte> Ohhh, I see the incorrect parameter.
[02:57] <archangel_> #suse  or #suselinux
[02:57] <edwin> on freenode
[02:57] <aliasfred> just realized today why people has trouble installing ubuntu, sure there is the 'linux is not perfect' thing, but i think the 'hey there is a way to do thing different than window one' is very significant too
[02:57] <edwin> there has to be one but /list command wouldnt load
[02:57] <edwin> server cant handle it
[02:57] <edwin> thanks archangel_
[02:57] <archangel_> yup
[02:58] <grothesk> edwin: Do you speak german? Then join #linux-club.de
[02:59] <aliasfred> because a lot of ubuntu new comers are directly from window and have never used anything but window so in short considere that window way is the only way
[02:59] <archangel_> installing ubuntu is a breeze, I thought
[02:59] <aliasfred> well just wanted to share :)
[02:59] <archangel_> yeah, your right
[02:59] <Electrolyte> Does anyone know where snd-emu10k1 lies? I need to edit it due to an index bug.
[02:59] <DHGE> Electrolyte: seems a rather stale kernel to me. U have Kubuntu Dapper?
[02:59] <DHGE> locate ...
[02:59] <Electrolyte> Yes.
[02:59] <archangel_> I keep thinking the way Windows would salve the problem
[02:59] <Electrolyte> I need to locate that sound module since index-0 isn't set correctly.
[03:00] <Admiral_Chicago> archangel_, you can use the dapper CD to boot and try to reinstall Kubuntu
[03:00] <Electrolyte> It should be index=0.
[03:00] <archangel_> ok
[03:00] <Admiral_Chicago> since its a live CD, you'll be able to backup your dada
[03:00] <DHGE> Electrolyte: locate is a command for the console ...
[03:00] <Electrolyte> Ah.
[03:00] <Electrolyte> Sorry, I'm a total beginner/.
[03:01] <Admiral_Chicago> archangel_, what version are you on?
[03:01] <Admiral_Chicago> DHGE, I didn't know that. thanks
[03:01] <archangel_> uhmmm  6.06?
[03:02] <Admiral_Chicago> dapper
[03:02] <DHGE> Admiral_Chicago: ?  He's OFF a borked dapper kernel update it seems
[03:02] <archangel_> dapper drake
[03:02] <razvanz> cine stie limba romana ?
[03:02] <Admiral_Chicago> yea that works a live CD so you should be able to boot to it
[03:03] <Electrolyte> Well that was incorrect, can't edit .ko files :/
[03:03] <razvanz> stie cineva limba romana ?
[03:03] <archangel_> my bro in law sut the pc off right in the middle of the kernal upgrade (well it was 98% done)
[03:03] <Electrolyte> Anyone know why snd-emu10k1 is set to index-0 instead of index=0?
[03:03] <Electrolyte> I can't find where I need to edit it, alsa-base is set to index=0.
[03:03] <razvanz> aloo
[03:03] <razvanz> stie cineva limba romana
[03:04] <razvanz> heloo
[03:04] <Admiral_Chicago> archangel_, try booting from the CD then let me know what happened
[03:04] <razvanz> romanian languge ?
[03:04] <Electrolyte> I think I know what's causing it, brb.
[03:04] <zipper_> Argh, i'm going crazy over this. Finally got my wireless connection working (even with WEP), i reboot the machine, makes sure everything is working, and go to sleep. When i power on the machine once again, my wireless connection is _dead_. Can't even bring up the interface anymore, sigh
[03:04] <Admiral_Chicago> !ro
[03:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about ro - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:04] <archangel_> trying now
[03:05] <razvanz> care stie limba romana
[03:05] <archangel_> I cant get the pc to even turn on now
[03:05] <Admiral_Chicago> razvanz, try #ubuntu-ro
[03:05] <razvanz> ok
[03:05] <Admiral_Chicago> nobody is in that channel
[03:05] <archangel_> seems like a deep problem than just OS
[03:06] <Admiral_Chicago> archangel_, you might want to try flashing the BIOS
[03:07] <Electrolyte> Darn, didn't work.
[03:07] <archangel_> yeah, but it has the latest version
[03:08] <DHGE> Electrolyte: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa.conf  MAKE A BACKUP first!
[03:08] <Electrolyte> I'm trying something else first.
[03:08] <DHGE> the backer the better ;-)
[03:09] <djk_> archangel_: what has that to do with flashing the bios?
[03:10] <Electrolyte> DHGE, that file doesn't exist :S
[03:10] <archangel_> well....   dunno
[03:10] <archangel_> lol
[03:10] <DHGE> uups - alsa-base    look around
[03:11] <Electrolyte> I know, it's set to index=1 there and I also tried index=0 - it still gives me an error saying index-0 is an incorrect parameter when modprobing snd-emu10k1.
[03:11] <Electrolyte> So something else is trying to set index-0 but of course, that won't work.
[03:11] <DHGE> lspci ?
[03:11] <Electrolyte> Sees the Audigy 2 ZS.
[03:11] <Electrolyte> 0000:01:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 04)
[03:11] <archangel_> sweet sound card
[03:12] <Electrolyte> Meh, it's crap actually.
[03:12] <DHGE> Electrolyte: play here in my box :-)
[03:12] <DHGE> Electrolyte: plays here in my box :-)
[03:12] <archangel_> I have the first one
[03:12] <Electrolyte> It was working before I set the Audigy 2 ZS to index=0 in alsa-base so it would use that instead of the Yamaha YMF.
[03:13] <gregory> Can someone please help me with downloading...??
[03:13] <archangel_> cant flash the bios if it doesnt boot
[03:13] <archangel_> home the dell is under warrantee
[03:13] <Electrolyte> Got one last thing to try actually, brb.
[03:13] <gregory> Im new to Linux Kubuntu, and i was wondering how do i install things i have downloaded..
[03:13] <DHGE> archangel_: DON'T flash the bios - potentially ruins your PC
[03:14] <Admiral_Chicago> archangel_, good luck, unfortunetly I have to go to work
[03:14] <archangel_> yeah, I know
[03:14] <archangel_> thank man, for your help
[03:14] <Admiral_Chicago> gregory, what did you download?
[03:14] <gregory> i downloaded a program of the internet, and i dont no how to install it :(
[03:15] <Admiral_Chicago> gregory, what program and link please
[03:15] <gregory> Gaim.
[03:15] <Admiral_Chicago> ah I can't get away...
[03:15] <DHGE> gregory: U know what adept is? what package management is?
[03:16] <Admiral_Chicago> gregory, open up konsole and type sudo apt-get install gaim
[03:16] <gregory> yes DHGE
[03:16] <Admiral_Chicago> DHGE, that's not helping
[03:16] <gregory> i dont like konsole
[03:16] <gregory> it doesnt work theres al ways conection errors
[03:16] <gregory> i want to use adept
[03:16] <DHGE> Admiral_Chicago: look - that did not help ;-)
[03:16] <Admiral_Chicago> gregory, gaim is in the repos...
[03:16] <gregory> but can someone help me to use it propaly...
[03:16] <gregory> ??
[03:17] <jihi> hi, has anybody a working skim ?
[03:17] <Admiral_Chicago> open it up, type in your password, and just search for gaim in the search bar
[03:17] <gregory> then what
[03:17] <Admiral_Chicago> then go to request install and apply
[03:17] <gregory> nothing came up when i typed it in..
[03:17] <Admiral_Chicago> gregory, btw, adept is just a grapical installer of your repos, so konsole would be the same thing
[03:17] <zours_> jihi, never managed to get it to work :-(
[03:18] <Admiral_Chicago> !info repos
[03:18] <ubotu> Package repos does not exist in dapper
[03:18] <Admiral_Chicago> !info gaim
[03:18] <ubotu> gaim: multi-protocol instant messaging client. In repository main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.0+1.5.1cvs20051015-1ubuntu10 (dapper), package size 816 kB, installed size 2148 kB
[03:18] <pituka> aliasfred: THANK YOU! finally i can get online automatically. i spent so much hours to get that work :)
[03:18] <jihi> zours_: :'(
[03:18] <mray> aliasfred: I'm pituka :P
[03:18] <gregory> can you download things of konquer?
[03:19] <Admiral_Chicago> gregory, there may be a box that says KDE at the top, do you see that
[03:19] <Admiral_Chicago> by the search bar...
[03:19] <gregory> no
[03:19] <gregory> but i see, Fetch Updates
[03:19] <gregory> and its clickable.
[03:20] <Electrolyte> snd-emu10k1 is STILL trying to set index-0 yet it's set to index=0 in alsa-base - any ideas on that or am I stuck with no sound?
[03:20] <Admiral_Chicago> ah okay...hold on
[03:20] <Admiral_Chicago> !info gaim
[03:20] <ubotu> gaim: multi-protocol instant messaging client. In repository main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.0+1.5.1cvs20051015-1ubuntu10 (dapper), package size 816 kB, installed size 2148 kB
[03:20] <otaku-san> reall quick what path is AmaroK normally under starting from /
[03:20] <Admiral_Chicago> gregory, did you enable extra repos?
[03:21] <gregory> im not sure
[03:21] <gregory> i just got linux
[03:21] <Admiral_Chicago> i doubt that matter, it should be in main repos
[03:21] <DHGE> otaku-san: which "app in case" on the console
[03:21] <aliasfred> mray: cool :)
[03:21] <Admiral_Chicago> !repos
[03:21] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:21] <gregory> should i check to see if its enabled?
[03:21] <Admiral_Chicago> follow the second link
[03:22] <gregory> i diont like reading stuff
[03:22] <gregory> i just want instant help
[03:22] <gregory> why cant downloading be easy:(
[03:23] <Admiral_Chicago> it is really easy once you set it up
[03:23] <gregory> can u help me set it up.
[03:23] <Admiral_Chicago> how it is downloaded on your computer
[03:23] <Admiral_Chicago> yes i'm trying
[03:23] <gregory> guide me threw
[03:23] <otaku-san> DHGE: ok going n00b on you. What do you mean by which "app in case" on the console?
[03:24] <Admiral_Chicago> as in which one did you download off the gaim page?
[03:24] <DHGE> type: which amarok
[03:24] <Admiral_Chicago> in fact, they are all rpm
[03:24] <Admiral_Chicago> okay do this...open up konsole
[03:24] <gregory> ye
[03:24] <otaku-san> DHGE: I thought so...hold on
[03:24] <Admiral_Chicago> I know you don't like it, but follow me
[03:24] <Admiral_Chicago> is it on your desktop?
[03:24] <gregory> ye
[03:25] <DHGE> or: which which
[03:25] <Admiral_Chicago> type "cd /home/gregory(username)/Desktop"
[03:25] <Admiral_Chicago> whatever your login name is, just put that there....
[03:25] <gregory> its gregory
[03:25] <Admiral_Chicago> like i'm /home/freddy/Desktop
[03:25] <gregory> so gregorygregory
[03:26] <Admiral_Chicago> just once
[03:26] <otaku-san> DHGE: That was to easy for comfor!!!! Thanks man
[03:26] <DHGE> .-)
[03:26] <gregory> o such file or directory it said
[03:26] <gregory> no*
[03:26] <Admiral_Chicago> /home/gregory/Desktop?
[03:27] <gregory> nup
[03:27] <otaku-san> gregory: make sure Desktop is in Caps
[03:27] <vlt> Hello. I just installed flashplugin-nonfree from multiverse. When I open a Website Konqueror still asks me to download the plugin. How can I activate it?
[03:27] <Admiral_Chicago> capitals matter
[03:27] <djk_> just 'cd Desktop'  is sufficient in a konsole..
[03:27] <Admiral_Chicago> are you there?
[03:27] <gregory> doesnt work still
[03:27] <otaku-san> djk: cool I'll try that!
[03:28] <Admiral_Chicago> did you try djk_ 's method?
[03:28] <gregory> nno
[03:28] <gregory> i wil now
[03:28] <DHGE> or F4 from konqueror ...
[03:28] <Admiral_Chicago> cd Desktop
[03:28] <Electrolyte> Does anyone know if modules.conf will understand the command options snd-emu10k1 index=0?
[03:29] <gregory> now it just addes desktop infront of the thing
[03:29] <gregory> added*
[03:29] <Admiral_Chicago> okay good
[03:29] <Admiral_Chicago> type dir
[03:29] <djk_> dir?
[03:29] <Admiral_Chicago> it should list everything right
[03:29] <gregory> gregory@gregory-laptop:~/Desktop$ dir
[03:29] <gregory> Gregs\ Stuff    tiger2.jpg           vnc-4.0b4-x86_linux.tar.gz
[03:29] <gregory> kopete.desktop  vnc-4.0b4-x86_linux
[03:29] <gregory> that..
[03:30] <Admiral_Chicago> okay
[03:30] <DHGE> Electrolyte: it is installed automagically here - tweak the install commands AFTER backup ...
[03:30] <Admiral_Chicago> gaim is an .rpm right?
[03:30] <gregory> im not sure
[03:30] <gregory> i just want to no how to install
[03:30] <Electrolyte> DHGE eh?
[03:30] <Admiral_Chicago> its downloaded on the desktop, read me the name
[03:30] <gregory> what name
[03:31] <DHGE> install snd-emu10k1 modprobe --ign    and on ...
[03:31] <gregory> the setup is on the desktop
[03:31] <djk_> gregory: update your sources.list, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get install gaim
[03:31] <Admiral_Chicago> the gaim file
[03:31] <Admiral_Chicago> djk_, that's more complicated that we need to go atm
[03:32] <Admiral_Chicago> plus i'm a be late for work if we do it that way
[03:32] <gregory> it always stays at 0%
[03:32] <Electrolyte> DHGE: I don't understand :/
[03:32] <gregory> when im updating
[03:32] <djk_> Admiral_Chicago: it's better than alienating the rpm and dpkg'ing it
[03:32] <Admiral_Chicago> djk_, yea but look to lines up
[03:32] <Electrolyte> Aha, so it does support the index=0 command.
[03:32] <Admiral_Chicago> err up.
[03:33] <gregory> what?
[03:33] <gregory> isnt there like a remote desktop thing so u can do it for me..
[03:33] <DHGE> Electrolyte: look at the lines in alsa-base and replace the "magic" with your best guess
[03:33] <Admiral_Chicago> gregory, you said you downloaded gaim right? what is the name of the file please.
[03:33] <gregory> o
[03:33] <gregory> um
[03:34] <Admiral_Chicago> somehow, I dont think the bosses will like the excuse "I was late because I was on IRC"
[03:35] <gregory> gaim-1.5.0.x86.package
[03:35] <djk_> Admiral_Chicago: then tell them you had sex with a thai hooker ;)
[03:35] <jontydog> hi does anyone use kaffeine for viewing dvbs?
[03:35] <Admiral_Chicago> autopackage....grr
[03:35] <Admiral_Chicago> alright you guys need to take over. I have to leave now.
[03:36] <gregory> ..
[03:36] <DHGE> Electrolyte: http://www.google.com/search?q=two+soundcards+in+debian
[03:36] <DHGE> WHY two soundcards?
[03:37] <Electrolyte> Second sound card is used in Windows.
[03:37] <Electrolyte> It's a Yamaha DS-XG with a level 1 XG midi synthesizer.
[03:37] <gregory> how can i send virus;s to windows computers?
[03:37] <Electrolyte> lol?
[03:37] <djk_> gregory: by using Windows?
[03:37] <gregory> no
[03:37] <gregory> linux
[03:37] <aliasfred> gregory: in a way that wont be described here
[03:38] <gregory> i wana send a virus from linux to windows
[03:38] <gregory> to mi stupid friends at school
[03:38] <djk_> it was a rethorical question..
[03:38] <DHGE> Electrolyte: blacklist it? http://www.mepis.org/node/9658   found via Google (see link above)
[03:38] <gregory> plz tel me..
[03:38] <aliasfred> gregory: we dont promiote illegal activity
[03:38] <gregory> im 13
[03:38] <gregory> lol
[03:38] <Electrolyte> DHGE that isn't the problem.
[03:38] <gregory> linux was made for that purpose..
[03:38] <aliasfred> gregory: please stop asking for that
[03:38] <Electrolyte> The problem is the audigy won't enabled.
[03:38] <Electrolyte> enable*
[03:38] <gregory> please tell me
[03:38] <Electrolyte> Due to an incorrect index being set by I don't know what.
[03:38] <gregory> if you no how to..
[03:39] <otaku-san> gregory: linux was made to better peoples lives not ruin em' by "viruses"
[03:39] <Electrolyte> Linux was made for sending viruses? Rofl.
[03:39] <DHGE> Electrolyte: How do you get the index? command?
[03:39] <Electrolyte> dmesg after trying to enable the module.
[03:39] <gregory> german kids at school always send virus's to the IT service..
[03:39] <djk_> what???
[03:39] <Electrolyte> [ 1730.437208]  snd_emu10k1: Unknown parameter `index-0'
[03:40] <Electrolyte> That's the message in dmesg.
[03:40] <gregory> they can shutdown the school server for a minute..
[03:40] <djk_> gregory: are you an idiot?
[03:40] <aliasfred> gregory: please stop asking how to break into other computer here. we wont help you
[03:40] <gregory> no
[03:40] <Electrolyte> He's 13, what do you expect?
[03:40] <gregory> pussys,,
[03:40] <djk_> Electrolyte: a brain?
[03:40] <Electrolyte> At that age? You must be joking :P
[03:41] <djk_> Electrolyte: my 4 month old nephew is smarter..
[03:41] <gregory> dude..trust me i no ALOT about windows xp and windows vista...
[03:41] <djclue917> Electrolyte: even newly born babies have brains right? :)
[03:41] <Electrolyte> And?
[03:41] <Electrolyte> Windows is crap gregory :P
[03:41] <gregory> its better than linux
[03:41] <Electrolyte> Yeah I agree with that djclue.
[03:41] <aliasfred> gregory: good for you, but please dont ask about how to break into other computers here
[03:41] <djk_> gregory: dude, then use windows, dude, to, you know dude, to haxxorz tha internets, dude
[03:41] <gregory> welll...
[03:41] <gregory> hes the story..
[03:42] <edwin> suse linux > kubuntu :P
[03:42] <Electrolyte> Bah, I don't like SUSE since the ATI driver fails to install.
[03:42] <edwin> kubuntu < suse linux :P
[03:42] <gregory> i was installing kubuntu coz mi friend had the disk..but we screwed up the partition and delted windows.. so when i go to schoool on moday i will get windows back on and install kubuntu propaly
[03:42] <djclue917> Electrolyte: the driver installs perfectly on my SUSE box.
[03:43] <edwin> lol gregory
[03:43] <Electrolyte> Yeah but I have an X850XT PE, which even craps out on installing Kubuntu.
[03:43] <djclue917> Electrolyte: i think there was really an issue and an upgrade is needed.
[03:43] <aliasfred> gregory: this channel is about helping people on how to use kubuntu. if you have question about it, ask them, if they are not about breaking other computer obviously :)
[03:43] <Electrolyte> I have to download the driver again via atp-get and install it manaully.
[03:43] <gregory> how the hell do i download:D
[03:44] <gregory> with the browser.
[03:44] <Electrolyte> Is there any other files that try to set index's? I don't understand why snd-emu10k1 is trying to set index-0 when it's incorrect.
[03:44] <gregory> ;)
[03:45] <gregory> someone..how do i download things of the webbrowser and install them
[03:45] <djk_> gregory: get the ubuntu X.XX deb package, sudo dpkg -i <filename>  in a konsole
[03:46] <gregory> it says
[03:46] <Electrolyte> Gonna try this option in the modules.conf, brb.
[03:46] <gregory> database locked by other area
[03:46] <djclue917> gregory: what do you want to install? is it not in the Ubuntu repositories?
[03:47] <otaku-san> gregory: then that means you don't have enough repos prob
[03:47] <gregory> it is locked by another process
[03:47] <gregory> it says exatcly
[03:47] <djclue917> gregory: it means that probably, an instance of apt is already running
[03:47] <Electrolyte> Grrr, still not working.
[03:47] <admin__> hello
[03:47] <Electrolyte> God sake.
[03:47] <gregory> status database area is locked by aanother process
[03:48] <otaku-san> djclue917: yeah I hate it when I'm in the middle of konsole and adept is up and messes it up
[03:48] <djk_> gregory: close adept
[03:48] <gregory> k
[03:48] <gregory> then?
[03:48] <DHGE> gregory: it's is the virus from your buddy that's locking
[03:48] <gregory> try again?
[03:48] <admin__> is there a linux distribution which supports windows applications?
[03:48] <gregory> haha funny no
[03:48] <admin__> and Aurox?
[03:48] <djclue917> admin__: use wine
[03:48] <djclue917> admin__: sudo apt-get install wine
[03:48] <admin__> ok i know
[03:49] <admin__> but thank
[03:49] <gregory> djk:what do i do now
[03:49] <gregory> i closed it..
[03:49] <Electrolyte> snd-emu10k1 is STILL setting index-0 :/
[03:49] <Electrolyte> I'm about to give up completely :(
[03:49] <otaku-san> gregory: you need to probably try again and if it balks again then you don't have enough repos
[03:50] <otaku-san> gregory: checklist for installing stuff: adept off, konsole up, lots of repos.
[03:50] <gregory> gregory@gregory-laptop:~/Desktop$ dir
[03:50] <gregory> Gregs\ Stuff    tiger2.jpg           vnc-4.0b4-x86_linux.tar.gz
[03:50] <gregory> kopete.desktop  vnc-4.0b4-x86_linux
[03:51] <Cisoun> its the first time for me to chat by IRC! ;-)
[03:51] <ubuntu> hello
[03:51] <ubuntu> salut ^
[03:51] <ubuntu> heu ?
[03:51] <gregory> dpkg: --install needs at least one package archive file argument
[03:51] <Cisoun> salut
[03:51] <gregory> Type dpkg --help for help about installing and deinstalling packages [*] ;
[03:51] <Cisoun> sa va?
[03:51] <gregory> Use `dselect' or `aptitude' for user-friendly package management;
[03:51] <gregory> Type dpkg -Dhelp for a list of dpkg debug flag values;
[03:51] <gregory> Type dpkg --force-help for a list of forcing options;
[03:51] <gregory> Type dpkg-deb --help for help about manipulating *.deb files;
[03:51] <gregory> Type dpkg --licence for copyright licence and lack of warranty (GNU GPL) [*] .
[03:51] <gregory> Options marked [*]  produce a lot of output - pipe it through `less' or `more' !
[03:51] <ubuntu> Looooooooool ^ comment je suis arriv la moi ?
[03:51] <Cisoun> haha bienvenue !
[03:51] <ubuntu> bah je sais pas, j'ai instal kubuntu et voila ^
[03:51] <Cisoun> c bien hein?
[03:51] <ubuntu> pur, jamais vu un truc aussi classe ^
[03:51] <dasko> re ^^
[03:52] <dasko> bah c'est un open source
[03:52] <Cisoun> trop! j'tais sur live messenger sous windows y'a 5 min mais l'IRC c trop bien!
[03:52] <dasko> normal que ca soit mieux que windows
[03:52] <Cisoun> trop
[03:52] <dasko> bah moi je dis
[03:52] <Cisoun> mais j'ai plus de partitions pour installer FreeBSD!
[03:52] <otaku-san> ....wow I've never seen an ongoing conversation in french...this is awesome
[03:52] <dasko> je pense que je vais l'installer ^
[03:52] <gregory> helo
[03:52] <dasko> hey otaku
[03:52] <Cisoun> j'ai le dernier!
[03:53] <foot> can anyone recoment a tv card for linux that is a simple install? preferably a packaged thing?
[03:53] <dasko> don worry i speak english too
[03:53] <gregory> dude.. dont talk french i never listen in class.
[03:53] <glen_> foot: think the pci hauppage are the best
[03:53] <dasko> hum, is linux very good to instal ? no risq ?
[03:53] <dasko> im afraid
[03:53] <dasko> i dont know if or not install it
[03:53] <Cisoun> Vive Linus Torvalds!
[03:53] <dasko> me its kubuntu
[03:53] <gregory> dpkg: --install needs at least one package archive file argument
[03:54] <otaku-san> dasko: sweet!  My brother is trying to learn french....I stink
[03:54] <dasko> lol ^
[03:54] <dasko> when U want
[03:54] <jontydog> foot I have a skystar 2 and that was easy to install
[03:54] <dasko> otaku, japaneese ?
[03:54] <gregory> i learn frnech n japenese
[03:54] <gregory> im 13
[03:54] <Cisoun> does he speaks french good?
[03:54] <otaku-san> gregory: ok so that's what popped up for you when you tried to install?
[03:54] <dasko>  yer old ?
[03:55] <gregory> ye
[03:55] <dasko> OMFG, a 13 i just learn french ^ Lol
[03:55] <foot> I spent the last 5 days trying to install a wintv-pvr 150 from hauppauge
[03:55] <otaku-san> dasko: I wish I knew Japanese....
[03:55] <gregory> dpkg: --install needs at least one package archive file argument
[03:55] <gregory> Type dpkg --help for help about installing and deinstalling packages [*] ;
[03:55] <dawid> No to otworzyem /etc/apt/sources.list uywajc vi, to naszczcie jest ;) i okazao si, e po instalacji w /etc/apt/sources.list wikszo rde jest zakomentowana.
[03:55] <gregory> Use `dselect' or `aptitude' for user-friendly package management;
[03:55] <gregory> Type dpkg -Dhelp for a list of dpkg debug flag values;
[03:55] <gregory> Type dpkg --force-help for a list of forcing options;
[03:55] <gregory> Type dpkg-deb --help for help about manipulating *.deb files;
[03:55] <gregory> Type dpkg --licence for copyright licence and lack of warranty (GNU GPL) [*] .
[03:55] <gregory> Options marked [*]  produce a lot of output - pipe it through `less' or `more' !
[03:55] <gregory> otaku-san: thats what came up
[03:55] <dasko> otaku-san: but are U a japansese ?
[03:56] <otaku-san> dasko: sadly no...why?
[03:56] <glen_> foot: what problem were you having?
[03:56] <dasko> because i love japaneese ^
[03:56] <gregory> dpkg: --install needs at least one package archive file argument
[03:56] <gregory> Type dpkg --help for help about installing and deinstalling packages [*] ;
[03:56] <otaku-san> dasko: me too
[03:56] <gregory> Use `dselect' or `aptitude' for user-friendly package management;
[03:56] <gregory> Type dpkg -Dhelp for a list of dpkg debug flag values;
[03:56] <gregory> Type dpkg --force-help for a list of forcing options;
[03:56] <gregory> Type dpkg-deb --help for help about manipulating *.deb files;
[03:56] <gregory> Type dpkg --licence for copyright licence and lack of warranty (GNU GPL) [*] .
[03:56] <gregory> Options marked [*]  produce a lot of output - pipe it through `less' or `more' !
[03:56] <gregory> otaku-san: thats what came up!
[03:56] <foot> I dont have access to the database.
[03:56] <dasko> otaku ? ure a admin ?
[03:57] <dasko> Ure in red , i think its Admin no ?
[03:57] <glen_> foot: what database?
[03:57] <foot> and I only use  a few diferent passwords. none work
[03:57] <jontydog> foot: do you have a tv card?
[03:57] <otaku-san> gregory: dude chill! I saw it the first time I'm trying to look at it!
[03:57] <foot> aww hell Ill be right back
[03:57] <dasko> hum, im interessed too for the TV card, I got a Pinaple 50 I
[03:58] <dasko> 50i sorry ^^
[03:58] <otaku-san> dasko: hehe no I'm not admin.  And neither am I good with Linux....I get by tho'
[03:58] <Hawkwind> gregory: Start using pastebin please
[03:58] <Hawkwind> !pastebin
[03:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:58] <gregory> whats that??
[03:58] <dasko> ^^ do i install linux, is it Good ? and what can we do in linux ?
[03:58] <Hawkwind> gregory: Read ^^^^^^^^^
[03:58] <thomaswfry> good morning
[03:58] <ubuntu> hi all
[03:58] <dasko> hi ubuntu
[03:58] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: thank you sooooo much!  I just thought of that
[03:58] <gregory> k
[03:59] <thomaswfry> i have a simple question i hope.
[03:59] <gregory> so wat now otaku-san?
[03:59] <ubuntu> i'm chatting froma live cd version of Kubuntu, and i'm going to install it, but i have a question
[03:59] <dasko> Me too
[03:59] <dasko> good same way
[03:59] <DHGE> Electrolyte: http://alsa.opensrc.org/MultipleCards
[03:59] <dasko> chatting from CD too
[03:59] <otaku-san> ubuntu, dasko: fire away
[03:59] <dasko> but, what can we do with kubuntu ?
[03:59] <thomaswfry> i need to recusively search a directory for mp3 files and then once found move them all to a single directory
[03:59] <thomaswfry> any suggestions ?
[04:00] <otaku-san> gregory: check your repos...let me get the path for you
[04:00] <foot> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[04:00] <dasko> otaku : sorry i dont understand
[04:00] <gregory> ok
[04:00] <ubuntu> i have one partition to WP, and two for Suse linux (swap and root): what have i to do to install Kubuntu over the Suse installation?
[04:00] <Electrolyte> DHGE - that's not the problem,.
[04:00] <foot> yes I have a tv card, wintv-pvr 150
[04:00] <Hawkwind> thomaswfry: You could ask that in #Bash and they would give you a one liner to do just that real quick
[04:00] <glen_> foot: well, i'd try to get the card working first, then deal with the myth-tv side of things. just a suggestion
[04:01] <otaku-san> dasko: it means ask your question.  It's kindof slang in english
[04:01] <jontydog> try using Kaffeine instead of mythtv
[04:01] <jontydog> use the dvb section
[04:01] <DHGE> thomaswfry: http://personal.riverusers.com/~thegrendel/abs-guide-4.0.tar.bz2  or man find and "|"
[04:01] <dasko> otaku-san: ok, i want to know what we can do in linux, and its he better than Windows XP ?
[04:01] <ubuntu> i have one partition to WP, and two for Suse linux (swap and root): what have i to do to install Kubuntu over the Suse installation? Have I to delete the two linux partitions, or can i press continue and it will be installed automatically there?=
[04:01] <foot> glen_:  I have been following an install set of direction on http://www.quietglow.com/docs/ubuntumythtv.html
[04:01] <Hawkwind> ubuntu: Just insert the CD and do an install.  It'll let you install over the SuSe install if you tell it to install on those partitions
[04:02] <Hawkwind> ubuntu: Just tell it to install on the partitions where SuSe is
[04:02] <gregory> otaku-san: hurryy
[04:02] <foot> glen_: but I have only had linux for 5 days
[04:02] <ubuntu> ahm, ok. And it will configure the Grub?
[04:02] <Hawkwind> dasko: Try reading some linux sites.  Trying to tell you that here in the channel is quite difficult
[04:02] <ubuntu> will it*
[04:02] <Hawkwind> ubuntu: It should, yes
[04:02] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: hey how do I start a private chat
[04:03] <ubuntu> Hawkwind:  ok thanks, and sorry for my english... i'm connecting from spain ;-)
[04:03] <gregory> otaku-san!!!!!!!!!!!!! HURRRY
[04:03] <niekie> otaku-san, "/query Nickname" usually.
[04:03] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: /query <nick>    That will open a new tab/window that you can then type to that person in
[04:03] <Hawkwind> gregory: CHILL!!!!!!
[04:03] <dasko> Hawkwind: but, if i install kubuntu, how can i do for desinstal ?
[04:03] <Hawkwind> gregory: Seriously man.  When on IRC you need to have patience or else users will *not* help you
[04:03] <ubuntu> see you
[04:04] <gregory> wel its 3am here
[04:04] <Hawkwind> dasko: You don't de-install, you simply delete the partition or install over it
[04:04] <gregory> im tired im on 13 years old
[04:04] <jontydog> you still need patience gregory
[04:04] <Hawkwind> gregory: Then go to bed and stop pushing everyones buttons and upsetting them
[04:04] <dasko> Hawkwind: ok, but now i got windows PRo, no prob for choose the OS ?
[04:04] <Hawkwind> gregory: You keep doing what you're doing and everyone will put you on ignore and then noone will help you
[04:05] <Hawkwind> Hobbsee: Good morning
[04:05] <dasko> i got 2 HS, one of 300 G and one of 250 G with windows
[04:05] <Hawkwind> dasko: Are you wanting to keep the Windows install ?
[04:05] <dasko> yes i want
[04:05] <foot> hgow would one sheck to see if the tvcard is working?
[04:05] <Hawkwind> dasko: Then install Linux to the partition that Windows is *not* on.  You'll see the option during the install
[04:05] <dasko> ok no prob
[04:05] <dasko> now i install
[04:06] <Hobbsee> Hawkwind: hi
[04:06] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: Thank you.  Ok now how do I get someone to join...so n00b in this aspect
[04:07] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: When you type to them if they are registered with nickserv, then they can respond back to you
[04:07] <dasko> but got a last question, all my files (GAME musics, etc, are on the 2nd HD, if i install linux in this, is windows see the HD ?
[04:07] <vlt> Hello. I just installed flashplugin-nonfree from multiverse. When I open a Website Konqueror still asks me to download the plugin. How can I activate it?
[04:07] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: If they aren't registered, then they need to register with nickserv first
[04:07] <gregory> otaku-san: have you got the path?
[04:07] <Hawkwind> vlt: Did you follow the how-to on the wiki ?  It has a part about getting it to work with konqueror
[04:08] <Hawkwind> dasko: It should see it, yes
[04:08] <dasko> Ok
[04:08] <dasko> now, im in instalater, but, i want to create a partition of 100 G for linux
[04:08] <dasko> how do thaht ?
[04:08] <gregory> 100g...is that all
[04:09] <gregory> i did 500g
[04:09] <otaku-san> gregory: yes, but I'm trying to start a private chat with you so we don't tie up this ORC
[04:09] <niekie> dasko, umm.. follow the dialog boxes VERY carefully.
[04:09] <dasko> ok
[04:09] <gregory> i can do private chat
[04:09] <gregory> cant*
[04:09] <niekie> And make sure you don't accidentally delete the wrong data. Heh.
[04:09] <niekie> Else... all your data. *poof*
[04:09] <dasko> see yaround , i do instalation ^^
[04:09] <niekie> Backup to be sure.
[04:09] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: Take him to #Ubuntu-Classroom
[04:09] <niekie> dasko, note: BACKUP!
[04:09] <dasko> backup 200 G its hard i think
[04:10] <dasko> i try ^^
[04:10] <otaku-san> gregory: go to what Hawkwind posted
[04:10] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: thanks man
[04:10] <Hawkwind> gregory: Join #Ubuntu-Classroom
[04:10] <dasko> its ok, i allow 100 for linux, irs ok ?
[04:11] <Sikon> how can I switch to my monitor's built-in speakers from standalone ones?
[04:11] <niekie> I have only 19 GB for Linux.
[04:11] <Hawkwind> dasko: That's a good start :)
[04:11] <Sikon> if I have both pluggeed
[04:12] <foot> Who recomended the skycard?
[04:12] <foot> skystar?
[04:15] <foot> no one recomended the skystar satelight reciever?
[04:17] <ubuntu> Hello people
[04:17] <justuser> i'm new in kubuntu world
[04:17] <justuser> have a little question
[04:18] <justuser> trying to configure locales in my system
[04:18] <justuser> i want to have koi8-r
[04:18] <justuser> everywhere except messages
[04:18] <justuser> so my locale command tells me that i have koi8-r
[04:19] <Sikon> justuser> set your default locale to ru_RU.KOI8-R and
[04:19] <justuser> but how can make my LC_MESSAGES en_US?
[04:19] <Sikon> set the LC_MESSAGES environment variable to en
[04:19] <justuser> where?
[04:19] <justuser> in /etc/envirenment?
[04:20] <Sikon>     -  
[04:20] <Sikon> %)
[04:20] <justuser> :)
[04:21] <ubuntu> hi there
[04:21] <Sikon>      -   ~/.bash_profile
[04:21] <justuser> Sikon - glyan v lichku plz
[04:21] <Sikon>  -    
[04:22] <justuser> ok
[04:22] <visik7> anyone here have tried parallels ?
[04:22] <edisav> guys, does anyone know if kubuntu will release the firefox 1.5.0.6 upgrade? It's been more than a week since firefox released it.
[04:22] <Sikon> edisav> why don't you just download it?
[04:22] <MrBaffalo> hi there again....
[04:23] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: hey whats the link to paste.bin?
[04:23] <edisav> sikon, because that's not the recommended way to do it
[04:23] <Sikon> meh
[04:23] <Sikon> who cares
[04:23] <Sikon> I never wait for my distribution to release Firefox as a package
[04:23] <TheGateKeeper> Sikon: why should he have to, what's the point of the repos if you are going to start doing that???
[04:24] <justuser> Sikon - ne mogu poka russkiy vbit s live cd
[04:24] <Hawkwind> edisav: It's in the repos
[04:24] <edisav> how do i get that? I'm new to ubuntu but not to linux
[04:24] <Hawkwind> justuser: This is an English only channel.  Might try joining your languages respective Kubuntu channel
[04:24] <Sikon> in my opinion, as long as you understand what you're doing, it's ok
[04:24] <Hawkwind> edisav: You need to enable all the repos
[04:24] <Hawkwind> !repos > edisav
[04:24] <TheGateKeeper> where Hawkwind?
[04:25] <Hawkwind> Ahhh, I take that back.  1.5.0.6 hasn't made it yet
[04:25] <edisav> does it have to do with including universe?
[04:25] <justuser> Hawkwind  -sorry, i will.  can't someone tell me russian channel?
[04:25] <Hawkwind> !russian
[04:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about russian - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:26] <Hawkwind> !ru
[04:26] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[04:26] <djk_> !ru
[04:26] <justuser> thx a lot
[04:26] <TheGateKeeper> Sikon: IMHO defeats the point of the repos
[04:27] <edisav> well, it seems that ubuntu hasn't upgraded its version yet, right?
[04:27] <TheGateKeeper> Sikon: if we are going to start that lark up, then we might as well have setup.exe like windows and all that goes with it
[04:28] <TheGateKeeper> edisav: would seem so
[04:28] <edisav> does anyone know if/when they will do it?
[04:29] <justuser> can't configure russian keyboard in kubuntu livecd, than will ask here :)
[04:29] <Hawkwind> edisav: There are no new features in 1.5.0.6 anyways,  Stick with 1.5.0.5 until Ubuntu gets 1.5.0.6
[04:29] <edisav> any securuty risks that you know of?
[04:29] <justuser> my problem is that, i want to have messages in english and locale koi8r
[04:29] <dasko> hey , ... its been 20 minutes i wait for the installation
[04:29] <justuser> my /etc/envirenment is
[04:30] <justuser> LANG=ru_RU.KOI8-R
[04:30] <foot> jontydog: do you know how well it workd with cable comming in?
[04:30] <justuser> LC_MESSAGES="en_US"
[04:30] <Hawkwind> edisav: No.  If there were security reasons for an update, Ubuntu would have it already
[04:30] <foot> jontydog: as apposed to satalight?
[04:30] <edisav> ok, thanx
[04:30] <justuser> but then there are troubles with apt
[04:30] <dasko> oh time the installation take (my PC = AMD 64 FX 3500 + / 1 G   6600 GT
[04:30] <dasko> how ^^
[04:31] <justuser> it says that LC_ALL is not set :(
[04:31] <dasko> oh sorry ^^ wrong cS
[04:31] <dasko> CD
[04:31] <tk> whats the hot_keys for screenshots? I took one yesterday on accident and now I cant find it to save my life....
[04:31] <dasko> i dont take the CD for the 64 bit installation ^^
[04:31] <Sikon> whenever a new version of Firefox comes out, I unpack the tar.gz to /usr/local/firefox/ and symlink /usr/local/bin/firefox to the executable
[04:31] <archangel_> where is the restore option in the kubuntu live cd?
[04:31] <dasko> See yaround all
[04:31] <Sikon> tk> PrintScreen, duh
[04:31] <tk> sikon: not doing it, thats what I tried
[04:32] <Sikon> strange
[04:32] <glen_> how to get rid of the bouncing icons when opening a program?
[04:32] <tk> it opens up a viewer right away right?
[04:32] <Sikon> tk> try Regional & Accessibility settings
[04:32] <Sikon> in the control panel
[04:33] <archangel_> where is the restore option in kubuntu?
[04:33] <otaku-san> hey anyone know of a howto on making the k menu transparent
[04:33] <djclue917> glen_: Control Center -> Appearance & Themes -> Launch Feedback
[04:33] <archangel_> right click on the menu bar
[04:34] <foot> otaku-san: right klick on it and go to configure panel
[04:34] <jontydog> Foot: skystar2 only works with satellite m8 not cable
[04:34] <archangel_> or what djclue917 said
[04:34] <glen_> djclue917: thanks, one less annoyance
[04:34] <archangel_> lol
[04:34] <Hawkwind> foot: He's talking about the menu, not the panel
[04:34] <otaku-san> foot: yeah
[04:34] <archangel_> ohhh
[04:34] <foot> otaku-san: oh
[04:35] <otaku-san> foot: yeah...hehehe
[04:35] <foot> jontydog: ok then  it wont work for me.
[04:35] <longbean> menu translucency is in System Settings->Appearance->Style
[04:35] <otaku-san> I've already made everything else trans
[04:35] <archangel_> a clear menu is hard to read when you have a white page behind it
[04:36] <jontydog> ok foot
[04:36] <foot> jontydog: thx though
[04:36] <archangel_> Hawkwind: hey, where is the restore option in kubuntu live cd?
[04:37] <archangel_> I need to restore the kernal Hawkwind
[04:38] <zzzerotime> hi all
[04:38] <ponce> #kubuntuespaa
[04:39] <tk> Sikon: got it working thanks, just had to "re apply" even though it should have worked
[04:39] <Hawkwind> archangel_: No idea.  I've never used the Live CD
[04:39] <zzzerotime> I was wondering if there are any way to install gunz international or any other free fps under linux
[04:40] <zzzerotime> #kubuntuespaa Illegal channel name
[04:40] <zzzerotime> wtf
[04:40] <wind> how do you get flash to work in ff
[04:40] <niels> eejiedereen
[04:41] <TheGateKeeper> wind: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[04:41] <wind> thanks
[04:41] <niels> has sb experience with hacking?
[04:41] <niels> just 4 funbtw
[04:42] <TheGateKeeper> wind: yw :-)
[04:43] <sorush20> !kmymoney
[04:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about kmymoney - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:48] <itsm> must go TODAY 2 dell xps m1710 laptops. price 600. these are on yahoo auctions. shipping is included in price and carry cases, message me if interested on aim at itscrazymikeeh or msn at mcsltd3@hotmail.com
[04:50] <Electrolyte> Well I feel like removing Kubuntu and just not bothering with Linux again.
[04:51] <jontydog> lol@electrolyte I have felt like that but have stuck with it
[04:51] <jontydog> its the best version of linux i have tried so far
[04:51] <Electrolyte> Well I'm trying to use Linux for desktop stuff and just use Windows for games, but this is just getting rediculous.
[04:52] <Electrolyte> How can I get Kubuntu to read NTFS drives?
[04:52] <Electrolyte> I need to pull my music from another drive :(
[04:52] <visik7> Electrolyte: for read only just mount it
[04:53] <visik7> Electrolyte: for r/w try ntfs-3g
[04:53] <TheGateKeeper> Electrolyte: there are howto's in the ubuntu forums
[04:53] <visik7> there's a guide to set it up
[04:53] <itsm> must go TODAY 2 dell xps m1710 laptops. price 600. these are on yahoo auctions. shipping is included in price and carry cases, message me if interested on aim at itscrazymikeeh or msn at mcsltd3@hotmail.com
[04:53] <Electrolyte> I only want to read the drive.
[04:53] <Hawkwind> itsm: Don't spam that junk here
[04:54] <TheGateKeeper> Electrolyte: repo for ntfs-3g --> deb http://flomertens.keo.in/ubuntu/ dapper main
[04:54] <TheGateKeeper> !ntfs > Electrolyte
[04:54] <Electrolyte> Hang on got too many talking to me.
[04:55] <jontydog> only problem I am having at the moment is networking my 3 other pcs to this one
[04:55] <jontydog> my windows pcs are asking for a password and I haven't set one
[04:57] <ica> hi
[04:58] <jontydog> hi ica
[04:58] <ica> i have a little problem connecting to my ssh server (rssh) with fish
[04:58] <Electrolyte> Hey cheers, the script mounted them easily :)
[04:58] <Electrolyte> Left them as read-only.
[04:58] <ica> I am running rssh on my server to restrict it a little bit for the users on the server
[04:59] <ica> the problem is that it isn't possible to connect to it with fish
[04:59] <_Shade_> how should the fstab entry for an usb device mounting look like ?
[04:59] <Hawkwind> ica: So use sftp://
[04:59] <ica> is this a known problem (connecting to normal ssh servers is no problem)?
[04:59] <vlt> Hawkwind: [flash ind Konqueror]  In the wiki I only can find "sudo update-flashplugin ... The plug-in will be available the next time you start Konqueror." But it doesn't work. Mmh ...
[05:00] <Hawkwind> !flash > vlt
[05:00] <_Shade_> !pl
[05:00] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[05:00] <Hawkwind> vlt: Follow the one there.  It works as I've done it and flash works in konqueror here
[05:00] <ica> Hawkwind: thanx, that works!
[05:01] <ica> I've tried it in the 'External places'
[05:01] <itsm> must go TODAY 2 dell xps m1710 laptops. price 600. these are on yahoo auctions. shipping is included in price and carry cases, message me if interested on aim at itscrazymikeeh or msn at mcsltd3@hotmail.com
[05:02] <Hawkwind> !ops
[05:02] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, uniq, Mez, jpatric, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, or gnomefreak
[05:02] <Hawkwind> Someone please kill this spammer
[05:02] <Hawkwind> Heh
[05:02] <Hawkwind> Even better :P
[05:02] <imbrandon_> hrm ok
[05:02] <Hawkwind> imbrandon_: He's doing it in about 40 channels
[05:03] <ica> thanx for your help! bye!
[05:03] <z1pp3r> !sound
[05:03] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[05:03] <Hawkwind> imbrandon_: Thanks for atleast responding :)
[05:04] <imbrandon_> heh np
[05:04] <wind> you know what i want to see on this final fu show
[05:04] <wind> capoeira
[05:07] <Electrolyte> Anyone know how to get Mp3 support? :(
[05:08] <aliasfred> !restricted
[05:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:08] <aliasfred> Electrolyte: the ubotu message was for you
[05:10] <vlt> Hawkwind: [flash ind Konqueror]  Thanks. I did the "find new plugins" thing in Konqueror and now it works.
[05:10] <Electrolyte> Ty.
[05:10] <vlt> Hawkwind: s/ind/and
[05:11] <Hawkwind> vlt: Glad to have helped :)
[05:13] <thomaswfry> can anyone recommend a program that i can use to create playlists with drag and drop ?  xmms doesnt do it
[05:13] <aliasfred> amarok is likely to do it
[05:13] <thomaswfry> thanks, i'll check that out
[05:15] <vlt> [OT (but don't know where to ask elsewhere]  I tried to set "/nick mynickname" but got "nickname already in use". That's right. It was another running irc client in the office. How could I have forced the other logging out and me logging in to freenode irc?
[05:15] <aliasfred> !register
[05:15] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[05:16] <aliasfred> vlt: the last ubotu msg was for you
[05:16] <vlt> aliasfred: Thank you.
[05:17] <vlt> aliasfred: I can't find an answer to my question there.
[05:18] <Hawkwind> vlt: If the other nick was registered, /msg nickserv ghost <nick> <password>
[05:19] <Hawkwind> vlt: /msg nickserv help   for all your nickserv questions/answers
[05:20] <aliasfred> vlt: sorry i wasnt explicit enought, 1. register your nick, then 2. do what Hawkwind said. it will have the effect you want
[05:23] <vlt> aliasfred/Hawkwind: The nick was already registered. Thank you, I'll try that ghost thing next time ...
[05:25] <GoatBoy> can anyone help with geting Archos Gmini XS202 mp3 player working with Amarok, it mounts automatic in Kubuntu but AMarok canot find dev not sure it i am using right mount cmd in Amarok - new to linux
[05:27] <intelikey> hmmm running ibunt 6.06 LTS   four login consoles running in 11m of ram
[05:27] <Doodluv> is there a way to change where desktop icons are located? ie, when inserting disc the icon go to the right side instead of left?
[05:28] <wind> what video player do i use to play .avi files?
[05:28] <zipper_> I'm looking someone who has experience with getting the intel hda soundcard working on an Asus A6R laptop. The problem is extensive and well known, therefore i do not want to spam up a channel about something i guess only few could know something about.
[05:28] <wind> kaffeine says the files are only 6 seconds each... which they aren't
[05:28] <Doodluv> wind: try vlc
[05:28] <intelikey> Doodluv look inside the icon files  there may be settings.
[05:29] <intelikey> geometry is what you want
[05:29] <TheGateKeeper> wind: it's the codecs that are the problem not the media player
[05:29] <TheGateKeeper> !codecs > wind
[05:29] <soon> Hi folks ... what would you recommend for file sharing between two kubuntu machines on a LAN? ssh, KNetAttatch or ??
[05:29] <wind> thankie
[05:30] <Doodluv> intelikey: geometry?
[05:30] <intelikey> damn! can nothing graphical run without perl ?
[05:30] <TheGateKeeper> soon: NFS
[05:30] <TheGateKeeper> !nfs
[05:30] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[05:30] <intelikey> Doodluv yes  geometry
[05:31] <soon> ... NFS okay dokay ... KNetAttatch should use NFS right?
[05:32] <TheGateKeeper> soon: sorry no knowledge of KNetAttatch ;-(
[05:34] <Walzmyn> Is anybody here having trouble with Kicker locking up?
[05:35] <IMEC> i seem to have problems with flash and konqueror...although firefox seems to work the same does not apply for konqueror
[05:35] <gnomefreak> Walzmyn: when is it locking?
[05:36] <gnomefreak> Walzmyn: what version of kde are you using? any errors?
[05:36] <intelikey> ah ha i see,  it's defoma that depends on perl and everything graphic(except a very few) depends on defoma    anything that might replace defoma ???
[05:36] <gnomefreak> brb smoke
[05:37] <Walzmyn> gnomefreak The latest one, far as I know. It is now locking up as soon as I boot
[05:37] <intelikey> gnomefreak you can smoke but your computer cant.
[05:37] <Walzmyn> oh yes, computers can smoke. I've seen 'em.
[05:37] <intelikey> only one time
[05:38] <Walzmyn> true enough
[05:38] <intelikey> you let the smoke out,  they don't work no mo
[05:38] <intelikey> thus all electronics run on smoke
[05:38] <Walzmyn> Ha!
[05:39] <soon> TheGateKeeper : If Im only connecting two kubuntu machines will I still  need Samba ?
[05:39] <intelikey> soon no
[05:39] <Sir_Brizz> !mp3
[05:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:39] <TheGateKeeper> soon: no I don't think so just use NFS
[05:39] <soon> hmm ... apt-get install nfs ?
[05:40] <intelikey> defoma replacement ?
[05:41] <TheGateKeeper> !nfs > soon
[05:41] <TheGateKeeper> soon: read the pm from ubotu
[05:42] <soon> will do !
[05:42] <soon> Thanks !
[05:43] <TheGateKeeper> soon: yw ;-)
[05:44] <exmethix> hi @ all
[05:44] <exmethix> does anybody know how to change the fontcolor of the window list in the panel?
[05:45] <Walzmyn> Should be under setting--> fonts
[05:45] <otaku-san> hey this bit always gets me.  Okay for wine I already installed it thru apt-get install... and it's in /usr/bin/wine how do I get it up and running?
[05:46] <Walzmyn> otaku-san now you have to do the "dining" part
[05:47] <otaku-san> Walzmyn: dining...is that what I put into konsole?
[05:47] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: join #WineHQ and those guys can you help you since they are the experts
[05:47] <Walzmyn> otaku-san no, That was from "Wining and Dinning" - humor dosn't work as well in text
[05:47] <gnomefreak> Walzmyn: i need to know if its 3.5.4 or not
[05:48] <Walzmyn> otaku-san try typing wine in the terminal and see what happens
[05:48] <soulrider> hi everyone
[05:48] <gnomefreak> Walzmyn: seeing as i just filed a bug on it when it boots the trash messages stays in upper left corner and kicker is empty ;)
[05:48] <Walzmyn> gnomefreak how do i find out, with my panel not working, is there a terminal command for that?
[05:48] <djk_> otaku-san: run winecfg, configure it, then wine some.exe iirc
[05:48] <gnomefreak> Walzmyn: apt-cache policy kdebase
[05:49] <otaku-san> Walzmyn: haha ok now I get it!
[05:49] <exmethix> Walzmyn: no it isnt
[05:49] <ewiwin> i wonder why there are no linuxn channels on paltalk
[05:50] <aliasfred> what is paltalk ?
[05:50] <Walzmyn> exmethix no what isn't?
[05:51] <Walzmyn> gnomefreak it's 3.5.3
[05:51] <exmethix> Walzmyn: i dont find a option setting -> fonts in the panel men
[05:51] <thomaswfry> 8-) Kudos on the recommendation of Amorok. That is an awesome program and solved my problem instantly. Thanks
[05:51] <otaku-san> djk_: so I would type run winecfg, or cd it?  Then I would ./configure it right?
[05:51] <gnomefreak> Walzmyn: when it locks the kicker is empty and you have the trash loading thing in upper left corner?
[05:51] <frantik> Terve!
[05:51] <gnomefreak> Walzmyn: and im assuming your on dapper
[05:52] <Walzmyn> exmethix oh, well, I think I know wehre it is, BUT my kicker panel is locked up and I can't do anything, so I can't look - sorry
[05:52] <djk_> otaku-san: no, just winecfg, it's a program to configure wine..
[05:52] <Walzmyn> gnomefreak yes to dapper, not to my knowledege with the trash, but i keep the panel on the top, so i could be covering it up. It just won't do anything and won't restart with a DCOP command
[05:53] <exmethix> Walzmyn: np :)
[05:53] <gnomefreak> Walzmyn: ok let me look into a few things.
[05:53] <otaku-san> djk_: so just type winecfg in konsole
[05:54] <Walzmyn> gnomefreak thanks for the help. I'm just going to reinstall and not do any upgrades this time. I have to go help my wife with something
[05:54] <djk_> yes
[05:55] <otaku-san> djk_: ok it's working
[05:55] <kashif> anyone there
[05:56] <nearfar> amaroK sucks for synching music library to my iPod
[05:56] <nearfar> do you guys suggest any other app for synching with iPod?
[05:56] <djk_> no, your ipod sucks :p
[05:56] <fritsch> nearfar: why does it suck?
[05:56] <fritsch> nearfar: what does not work?
[05:56] <fritsch> nearfar: which version do you use?
[05:57] <nearfar> fritsch: the iPod browser shows music by Artist and there is no option to 'sync' music fom local disk
[05:57] <nearfar> fritsch: 1.3.9
[05:57] <relix> what alternatives are there to quanta and bluefish?
[05:57] <kashif> hhhheeeellllllllllooooooooo
[05:57] <fritsch> nearfar: try version 1.4.1
[05:57] <aliasfred> nvu ?
[05:58] <relix> I'm especially looking for something that can easily upload changed files to the server for testing
[05:58] <fritsch> nearfar: just add the following to your /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-stable dapper main
[05:58] <fritsch> nearfar: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[05:58] <The_Poet> I need help to set up my wlan to work in my ubuntu, however in network settings it dosent seem to see the ESSID even though its open (it can be seen in kubuntu). even if i type in the ESSID manually, it dosent connect. any suggestions?
[05:58] <aliasfred> relix: dunno if it match your need, but it is an alternative http://www.nvu.com/index.php
[05:58] <relix> kthx aliasfred I'll check it out
[05:59] <spiros_> hi
[05:59] <fritsch> nearfar: never had any with this version and my ipod
[05:59] <Cagari> hi how can i install apps without an internet connection?
[05:59] <zipper__> Cagari, you can use packages on your harddrive, floppy drive or cd/dvd drive
[06:00] <zipper__> or compile sources
[06:00] <Cagari> i get error when i try to install *.deb on kubuntu
[06:00] <zipper__> what kind of error, and what are you trying to install?
[06:01] <fritsch> Cagari: * means 0,1 ...n (n-> infinity)
[06:01] <Cagari> for example i need gcc
[06:01] <fritsch> Cagari: or just a random one?
[06:01] <fritsch> Cagari: place your cd in drive and do apt-get install build-essential
[06:01] <Cagari> the live cd?
[06:01] <nearfar> fritsch: fyi, I installed kubuntu-deskop after install ubuntu
[06:01] <nearfar> I don't think I would have kubuntu.org in my sources.list
[06:01] <fritsch> nearfar: no problem, just install the new amarok the sources list
[06:02] <fritsch> nearfar: You have to place it in later ...
[06:02] <fritsch> nearfar: ubuntu just ships with 1.3.9 (which really sucks *G*)
[06:02] <fritsch> Cagari: have a try
[06:02] <fritsch> Cagari: if it cannot find these packages, it wants to download from the net
[06:03] <Cagari> the prob is i cant connect to net. I trying to get it working right now. USB sagem modem >>"
[06:03] <Cagari> oh well ty for advice
[06:04] <fritsch> Cagari: no problem, i do not know if the modem is supported
[06:04] <dek_aik> Cagari: use "sudo dpkg -i xxx.deb" to install individual files
[06:04] <fritsch> nearfar: working?
[06:04] <fritsch> dek_aik: yes, but only if there arent other dependencies ...
[06:05] <nearfar> fritsch: let me try
[06:05] <fritsch> nearfar: ill do :-)
[06:06] <Cagari> dek_aik & fritsch: ty
[06:07] <jarska> What should I do if there happens an error while installing programs in package manager?
[06:07] <Cagari> USB modem in general seems so troublesome :(. And ethernet modem is very expensive at my place
[06:07] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: are you here?
[06:07] <nearfar> W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088
[06:07] <nearfar> fritsch: that's while doing apt-get update
[06:07] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: Yeppers
[06:07] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: what version of kubuntu?
[06:07] <fritsch> nearfar: no problem ;-)
[06:08] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: 6.06 Dapper
[06:08] <fritsch> nearfar: its okay
[06:08] <gnomefreak> btw you can feel free to read your bug now ;)
[06:08] <jarska> What should I do if there happens an error while installing programs in package manager?
[06:08] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: xchat/xchat-gnome is not installed with kubuntu
[06:08] <fritsch> nearfar: if it disturbs you: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php
[06:08] <fritsch> nearfar: just do apt-get upgrade and the new amarok should be installed
[06:08] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: they pulled all xchats from installing with it around flight 3
[06:08] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: Ahhh yeah.  But with the default sources, xchat-gnome gets installed
[06:09] <Cagari> fritsch: for the sudo dpkg. Where should the package be foundf for it to work?
[06:09] <jarska> What should I do if there happens an error while installing programs in package manager?
[06:09] <fritsch> Cagari: dpkg -i "absolute" path of package
[06:09] <fritsch> Cagari: but apt-get manages normally all this stuff for you
[06:09] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: shouldnt at all you would have to sudo apt-get install it. please run apt-cache policy xchat
[06:09] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: what version and is it installed?
[06:10] <Cagari> fritsch apt-get gets the package from the net?
[06:10] <uwo> hi all --- which is a good program for ripping dvds?
[06:10] <nearfar> fritsch: why is it install ruby?
[06:10] <nearfar> *installing
[06:10] <fritsch> nearfar: it is used for the lyrics script
[06:11] <jarska> What should I do if there happens an error while installing programs in package manager?
[06:11] <nald> haha.... i've got the same problem
[06:11] <jarska> do you? :D
[06:12] <jarska> guys, we need some help here :P
[06:12] <nald> yes, well i've got some downloading issues with the packages etc... but i have no clue how to fix this...
[06:12] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: Right.  What I'm saying is....with the default sources that you get after an install of Dapper, if you go to apt-get install xchat, it installs xchat-gnome instead.  Why don't we have xchat in main instead of it being in universe ?
[06:12] <lackdiant> hi, how can I install kde 3.5.4? do I have to set edgy eft repositories on my kubuntu
[06:12] <djclue917> jarska nald: what are the errors?
[06:12] <djclue917> jarska nald: please use the pastebin by the way...
[06:12] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: For Kubuntu I think xchat should be in main, and xchat-gnome should be in universe and vice-versa for Ubuntu
[06:12] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: ahhh that
[06:13] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: that i cant answer atm but i will make sure it gets answered
[06:13] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: So in the bug report, I guess I didn't make myself very clear :(
[06:13] <nald> sorry... pastebin?
[06:13] <Hawkwind> nald: http://pastebin.ca
[06:13] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: i wil fix it dont worry
[06:13] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: I'll comment that info I just stated on the bug report
[06:13] <nald> ok
[06:13] <gnomefreak> k
[06:14] <djclue917> lackdiant: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php
[06:14] <gnomefreak> sorry Hawkwind ive been playing with lots of bugs this morning ;)
[06:16] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: No problem.  I didn't make myself very clear on the original report
[06:16] <jarska> They say linux is simple and easy to use.... but it isn't!
[06:16] <Healot> why I am still using Windows when the heat is on the ice
[06:17] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: I replied with a comment to clear things up a bit.  Hopefully that will help
[06:17] <gnomefreak> i see it
[06:19] <Pupeno_> I have these iptables rules: http://pastebin.ca/127988 , does anybody know why I can't connect to http://localhost:8000/ (where I have a web server running) ?
[06:19] <jarska> fucking linux. nothing works as it  should.
[06:20] <Pupeno_> jarska: yes, Hurd is much better.
[06:20] <nald> don't know how to get more info about the error :(
[06:20] <jarska> pupeno_ hurd?
[06:20] <gnomefreak> jarska: watch your language
[06:20] <nearfar> jarska: Nothing is Permanent
[06:21] <nearfar> fritsch: the new amaroK crashed! :(
[06:21] <grothesk> jarska: So how do you install?
[06:21] <jarska> gnomefreak lol, sry
[06:21] <RadiantFire> GNU/Hurd is nuts... barely anything works
[06:21] <fritsch> nearfar: mmmh, backup your old "amarok settings" and try with new one
[06:21] <RadiantFire> there are always the BSD's they always work well
[06:21] <jarska> grothesk by package manager
[06:21] <grothesk> Which one jarska?
[06:21] <jarska> adeps
[06:21] <jarska> *adept
[06:21] <grothesk> .k
[06:22] <nearfar> fritsch: hmm, it works the second time, but I don't see 'iPod' support
[06:22] <gekko`> klogd's cpu-usage is always around 80%. what could be the problem?
[06:22] <fritsch> nearfar: it is working here since (mmmh very long)
[06:22] <grothesk> Try konsole then.
[06:22] <fritsch> nearfar: now just plug in your ipod
[06:22] <jarska> I've tried
[06:22] <jarska> wont work
[06:22] <fritsch> nearfar: it will see "it"
[06:22] <grothesk> jarska: What error did konsole put out?
[06:22] <grothesk> 'wont work' is no error message i know of.
[06:23] <jarska> grothesk hmm... hard to expalin it in english, because it's in finnish....
[06:23] <nearfar> fritsch: well, it doesn't. There is no 'devices' tab.
[06:23] <jarska> but
[06:23] <nearfar> there are only 4 - Files, Playlists, Collection and Content. fritsch
[06:24] <jarska> It says I have no Required disc space
[06:24] <fritsch> nearfar: yes thats normal for the first time
[06:24] <fritsch> nearfar: just plug out and rein your media player
[06:24] <grothesk> jarska: So your hdd is full.
[06:24] <nearfar> eh?
[06:24] <jarska> grothesk it isnt
[06:25] <fritsch> nearfar: if not found, settings -> configure amarok -> media player
[06:25] <nearfar> fritsch: I'm trying that
[06:25] <jarska> grothesk how could it be? Ive just installed linux, and it doesnt fill 10gb of disc space
[06:25] <fritsch> nearfar: it norammly finds by just pluging in your device
[06:26] <nearfar> fritsch: ah works.
[06:26] <grothesk> jarska: On which hdd/partition is your linux installed?
[06:26] <nearfar> fritsch: but how do I 'sync'?
[06:26] <fritsch> nearfar: just mark your files you want to transfair, right click "to media player"
[06:26] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: :)
[06:26] <fritsch> nearfar: then click on media player and here on "transfaier"
[06:26] <jarska> grothesk I'm not sure, but there is free disc space in every partition
[06:26] <nearfar> fritsch: I usually want the whole library to be synched.
[06:27] <nearfar> fritsch: (some of which are already in the iPod)
[06:27] <fritsch> nearfar: try ;-) you get it working :-)
[06:27] <guy> hi all, i am new in kubuntu and like it very much, but i can't install logitec quick camera driver, i dont see /dev/video0 mount, whats wrong?
[06:27] <grothesk> jarska: df -h | grep hd
[06:27] <fritsch> nearfar: 1.4.1 has much more features than 1.3.9 - so what was working before should work now, too
[06:27] <jarska> grothesk ill try
[06:27] <guy> can anyone help me?
[06:27] <grothesk> It will tell you how much your hdd are used.
[06:27] <fritsch> nearfar: have to help cooking :-)
[06:28] <ninHer> guy wich software are you using to run the webcam ?
[06:28] <guy> soft from adept: qcam-usb
[06:28] <nearfar> fritsch: not working
[06:29] <ninHer> guy i mean software to run the wecam
[06:29] <nearfar> nothing happens after clicking on 'transfer'
[06:29] <ninHer> gnomemeeting or so ?
[06:29] <guy> aaaaaaa
[06:29] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: Many thanks.  I greatly appreciate it :)
[06:29] <gnomefreak> i take it you read it
[06:29] <gnomefreak> lol
[06:29] <guy> camorama
[06:29] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: Yep
[06:29] <jarska> grothesk 9,8 2,5 6,9 27%
[06:29] <ninHer> guy try using ekiga
[06:30] <fritsch> nearfar: try it again :-) you are too fast for really trying
[06:30] <nearfar> fritsch: but there are music in transfer queue.
[06:30] <fritsch> nearfar: cool! now just click on transfair
[06:30] <grothesk> jarska: So there shold be plenty of space.
[06:30] <gnomefreak> i found out why it is that way (more than likely the reason) but ill keep up with it and monday if i see the maintainer i will ping him if i can
[06:30] <nearfar> fritsch: damn! how complex :)
[06:30] <guy> when i started with linux i didnt think about all these problems
[06:30] <jarska> grothesk yes, there is
[06:30] <fritsch> nearfar: working?
[06:30] <nald> what are people using to watch DVDs?
[06:30] <ninHer> step by step, guy
[06:30] <nearfar> fritsch: before that, how will it handle existing files?
[06:31] <ninHer> patience to see the reward
[06:31] <guy> i tried with ekida- no camera detected
[06:31] <ninHer> :-)
[06:31] <nearfar> will it create new version in iPod?
[06:31] <fritsch> nearfar: don`t know ;-)
[06:31] <grothesk> jarska: Paste the output of 'sudo apt-get update' to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[06:31] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: Sounds good.  I do appreciate your attention to it :)
[06:31] <guy> maybe i sould compile kernel?
[06:31] <nearfar> fritsch: so if I want to 'sync' (the new files, which I may not know), it is not possible in amaroK?
[06:31] <ninHer> guy try gqcam packet also
[06:31] <fritsch> nearfar: but there are cool plugins, so you can transfair ogg, mpc files, he "transKodes" this on the fly
[06:31] <ninHer> wich kernel are you using ?
[06:31] <fritsch> nearfar: did it work before?
[06:31] <guy> last
[06:32] <guy> 2.15.26
[06:32] <nearfar> fritsch: I fear to mess up with my existing music in iPod
[06:32] <gnomefreak> anytime thats one of my many tasks around here
[06:32] <ninHer> guy sufficient.....by large kernel :-)
[06:32] <fritsch> nearfar: this could be possible :-)
[06:32] <fritsch> nearfar: just wanted you show, that the new version is really cool
[06:32] <guy> help!!!
[06:32] <ninHer> guy are you using a 32 or 64 bit box ?
[06:32] <guy> 32
[06:32] <nearfar> fritsch: yes, it is. Thanks :)
[06:32] <ninHer> nice
[06:33] <nearfar> fritsch: I will use banshee only for iPod sync.
[06:33] <guy> i have two comp- the same problem
[06:33] <ninHer> guy don't forget try gqcam packet also
[06:33] <jarska> grothesk done
[06:33] <grothesk> jarska: The link?
[06:33] <guy> can some expert help me
[06:33] <guy> i have skype
[06:33] <guy> :)
[06:33] <jarska> grothesk http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20387
[06:34] <ninHer> mmm, skype is not free software
[06:34] <grothesk> jarska: There ist adept still running.
[06:34] <guy> does anybody speak russion here?
[06:35] <guy> ninher its fre between computers
[06:35] <Pupeno_> With firefox I can access http://localhost:8000/ but konqueror timesout, any ideas ?
[06:35] <jarska> grothesk so what should i do
[06:35] <lmosher> When I open a .mpg file in firefox it uses a plugin to play the movie. It goes to a blank screen taht says (no picture) and then once the vid downloads it plays it. Which plugin is this?
[06:35] <otaku-san> guy: some one speaking russian earlier
[06:35] <grothesk> jarska: close all programs dealing with installation.
[06:35] <grothesk> Especially adept.
[06:35] <ninHer> guy i mean skype is not free software
[06:36] <guy> you know, abter i descovered ubuntu, i dont want to use windows
[06:36] <jarska> grothesk konsole too?
[06:36] <bunkerwolf> does anybody know a tool for speechcontrol?
[06:36] <grothesk> No. We need konsole.
[06:36] <jarska> ok
[06:36] <guy> messanger?
[06:36] <guy> :)
[06:37] <grothesk> jarska: So run it again now.
[06:37] <ninHer> a nice tool for I.M. is Kopete
[06:37] <jarska> grothesk u mean adept or konsole?
[06:37] <ninHer> give it a chance
[06:37] <meta_> hi all
[06:37] <meta_> please help me fast
[06:37] <ninHer> hi meta_
[06:37] <meta_> something ate up my hd
[06:37] <guy> there can i reed how to about drivers for dummies?
[06:37] <grothesk> jarska: I mean 'sudo apt-get update'
[06:37] <guy> ::)
[06:37] <fritsch> meta_: was it hungry?
[06:37] <jarska> grothesk ok
[06:37] <meta_> 2hour ago, i have 1.5gigs of free space
[06:38] <fritsch> meta_: did you install many programs?
[06:38] <meta_> it isn't humorous, because a piece of my work is lost
[06:38] <fritsch> meta_: try sudo apt-get clean
[06:38] <meta_> because it can't save
[06:38] <fritsch> meta_: wargh! okay
[06:38] <meta_> no
[06:38] <jarska> done
[06:38] <meta_> i'm only webdeveloped
[06:38] <fritsch> meta_: sorry for being jokey then
[06:38] <grothesk> jarska: Any E: Errormessages?
[06:38] <ninHer> also some tools for backup Konserve
[06:38] <meta_> okay not roblem, but please give me a tip
[06:38] <flamesfan> hey all
[06:39] <meta_> what i need to check
[06:39] <jarska> grothesk hmm... :D no.
[06:39] <guy> anyone speak hebrew?::)
[06:39] <jarska> grothesk i think
[06:39] <red> anyway i can get better resolution on my notebook
[06:39] <grothesk> jarska: Then do a 'sudo apt-get upgrade'
[06:39] <red> i have an ati mobility radeon x1300
[06:39] <meta_> and again!!!
[06:39] <meta_> i have freed up 500mb
[06:39] <meta_> 10minutes ago
[06:39] <flamesfan> hi Iam new to linux and Iam thinking about install kubuntu
[06:39] <red> kubuntu is nice
[06:39] <meta_> and at this time i have 160mb of free space
[06:39] <jarska> grothesk done. then?
[06:39] <red> thats what im using
[06:39] <meta_> please fast help me
[06:39] <Lacerta> lo
[06:40] <flamesfan> and was wondering what is the lowest system it can be installed on
[06:40] <grothesk> jarska: I don't know what you was about to install...
[06:40] <flamesfan> kubuntu
[06:40] <Lacerta> what's the file that has the iwconfig configuration?
[06:40] <meta_> hola
[06:40] <meta_> anybody
[06:40] <meta_> please ehlp me fast!^^
[06:40] <jarska> grothesk java
[06:40] <Lacerta> i need to change the wlan0 to ad-hoc mode every time i boot
[06:41] <jarska> grothesk firstly sun java, then blackdown java
[06:41] <rahul> is there a way to apply theme to the log off window anyone?
[06:41] <grothesk> jarska: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin sun-java5-jre
[06:41] <fritsch> meta_: it stills "deletes" sth. in the background?
[06:41] <Healot> next I am having Java myself, good coffee
[06:41] <nald> does anyone a program to play dvds?
[06:41] <gnomefreak> grothesk: just sun-java5-plugin
[06:41] <red> anyway to get a a better screen resolution
[06:41] <fritsch> meta_: pleas give a ps aux in pastebin please
[06:42] <gnomefreak> grothesk: it will install -bin -jre
[06:42] <meta_> fritsch: i'm from tty (for prevent more configuration and otehr file loss)
[06:42] <meta_> i'm stopped lammp
[06:42] <fritsch> meta_: sorry no idea
[06:42] <grothesk> gnomefreak: Tried it earlier. Did not work for me.
[06:42] <gnomefreak> grothesk: enable multiverse repos
[06:42] <thompa> having a faster newer computer processor really does not do much, i notice only a little difference in speed
[06:42] <grothesk> gnomefreak: I do have mutliverse
[06:43] <jarska> grothesk then?
[06:43] <gnomefreak> please apste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin
[06:43] <jarska> grothesk i think there occured an error
[06:43] <grothesk> jarska: Do you want to develop in java?
[06:43] <gnomefreak> s/apste/paste
[06:43] <jarska> grothesk why not... :D
[06:44] <grothesk> Because you will need sun-java5-jdk then.
[06:44] <jarska> grothesk konsole says E: broken packages
[06:44] <Healot> or use Solaris, since Java comes installed by default :0
[06:44] <nald> jarska got the same E
[06:44] <RadiantFire> weee for solaris...
[06:44] <grothesk> jarska: Which one is broken?
[06:45] <Tasc0> Hello
[06:45] <Healot> thanks to canonical opensolaris is getting the heat
[06:45] <Tasc0> Can anyone tell me how much space does Kubuntu use?
[06:45] <jarska> grothesk sun-java5-bin?
[06:46] <Tasc0> Can anyone tell me how much space does Kubuntu use?
[06:46] <nald> ive got all these packages that are not installable...
[06:46] <jarska> cagari not much
[06:46] <rahul> how can one change the appearance of the log out window?
[06:46] <jarska> nald same here
[06:46] <Tasc0> No one?
[06:47] <nald> sorry tasc0 i'm a newbe...
[06:47] <gnomefreak> Tasc0: 2.6 gigs give or take a .2 gig
[06:47] <jarska> tasc0 not much?
[06:47] <Tasc0> Um
[06:47] <jarska> grothesk can u fix my problem??? :D
[06:47] <Tasc0> Because I have SuSE in a partition of 3.1 G and I have 2Mb. left :(
[06:48] <gnomefreak> Tasc0: 2 mb?
[06:48] <Tasc0> Yes
[06:48] <jarska> lol
[06:48] <gnomefreak> your not putting ubuntu on that
[06:48] <grothesk> jarska: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin sun-java5-jre-bin
[06:48] <grothesk> jarska: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin sun-java5-bin
[06:48] <grothesk> Sorry
[06:48] <Tasc0> I was thinking on resinstalling SuSE and choose the size I want, but that may harm my Windows partition.
[06:49] <Tasc0> HellO?
[06:50] <jarska> grothesk doesnt work
[06:50] <malick> hi
[06:50] <grothesk> jarska: Doesn't work is no error message I would understand.
[06:50] <grothesk> Please tell me WHAT is wrong.
[06:51] <jarska> grothesk same problem... broken packages
[06:51] <gnomefreak> jarska: sudo apt-get -f install
[06:51] <grothesk> Paste it please
[06:51] <jarska> grothesk here?
[06:51] <grothesk> No!
[06:51] <grothesk> pastebin
[06:51] <jarska> forgot the url :D
[06:52] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[06:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:52] <jarska> and i think u dont understand finnish
[06:52] <grothesk> jarska: Look in the toppic.
[06:52] <gnomefreak> jarska: type in terminal sudo apt-get -f install
[06:52] <grothesk> jarska: I don't need to understand finnish.
[06:52] <gnomefreak> jarska: let me know if it wants to remove/upgrade/install anything
[06:54] <jarska> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20388
[06:54] <jarska> gnomefreak all 0
[06:54] <Administrator> after 1day uptime my  Timing buffered disk reads:  went wayy down... why?
[06:54] <Shinzetsu> I try to install Cedega, it says it needs, xlibs, when I try and install xlibs, it says Its not available and it gives me libxftl and xkeyboard-config
[06:54] <Shinzetsu> libxftl doesnt exist
[06:55] <gnomefreak> Shinzetsu: try xlibs-dev
[06:55] <jarska> why is this so hard? installing programs should be a pe
[06:55] <jarska> *piece of cake
[06:55] <grothesk> jarska: Seems like you need multiverse.
[06:56] <gnomefreak> jarska: does that say that unixodbc is broken?
[06:56] <grothesk> jarska: It is that simple.
[06:56] <jarska> gnomefreak i think so
[06:56] <Shinzetsu> gnomefreak: already have that
[06:56] <grothesk> But something is broken here, jarska
[06:56] <gnomefreak> jarska: try sudo apt-get install unixobdc
[06:56] <jarska> grothesk orly :D
[06:57] <eamon> !java
[06:57] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[06:57] <mpc1000> !ruby
[06:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about ruby - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:57] <Cagari> hi anyone knows what is gcc? Seems i need it for build-essential
[06:58] <mpc1000> !rails
[06:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about rails - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:58] <mpc1000> boo
[06:58] <jarska> gnomefreak it couldn't find the package
[06:58] <gnomefreak> jarska: you need to enable multiverse repo
[06:58] <gnomefreak> !repos > jarska
[06:58] <gnomefreak> jarska: see your pm from ubotu
[06:59] <Shinzetsu> Cagari: gcc is a C compiler
[06:59] <jarska> gnomefreak i have!
[06:59] <gnomefreak> jarska: are you sure you didnt enable the backports multiverse repo instead of multiverse main ...
[07:00] <gnomefreak> jarska: please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin
[07:00] <jarska> gnomefreak dunno :D this linux is like hebrew for me
[07:00] <Cagari> Shinzetsu: ty. How do i put it in kubuntu?
[07:00] <gnomefreak> Cagari: install build-essential
[07:01] <Shinzetsu> Cagari: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers
[07:01] <Shinzetsu> get the linux headers for your kernel, itll give you a list
[07:01] <Cagari> oh btw.. i dunt have access to net on linux. I cant make my usb modem to work with it >>
[07:01] <jarska> gnomefreak http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20390
[07:02] <gnomefreak> you dont have a main repo
[07:02] <gnomefreak> lol
[07:02] <jarska> lol
[07:03] <jarska> how should i know anything of repoes? Im still a beginner
[07:03] <gnomefreak> jarska: how did you open /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[07:04] <jarska> gnomefreak via konqueror
[07:04] <gnomefreak> jarska: close it
[07:04] <jarska> gnomefreak done
[07:04] <gnomefreak> jarska: open terminal and type kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:04] <gnomefreak> jarska: let me know when it opens
[07:05] <Gingillo> hi, i have a problem, when i am installing my copy of Kubuntu, the installation stops to "mounting root file system", i tryed to redownload and reburn the cd 3 times, but it dindt worked. Can someone help me? I'ts my first time with linux!
[07:05] <jarska> gnomefreak done
[07:06] <gnomefreak> jarska: delete everything inside or it except the first line
[07:06] <grothesk> Have to go. CU!
[07:06] <jarska> cya
[07:07] <jarska> gnomefreak done
[07:07] <gnomefreak> jarska: ok now go to this link in a browser http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666
[07:07] <jarska> gnomefreak then
[07:07] <gnomefreak> jarska: scroll down to bottom
[07:08] <tylersmith> I'm having trouble installing amarok-1.4.1. I added "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14 dapper main"  in the adept "manage repositories." Then tried to find amarok 1.4.1. It didn't find it. What did I do wrong?
[07:08] <zipper> !ati
[07:08] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:08] <gnomefreak> you see the texted int he white box?
[07:08] <Gingillo> hi, i have a problem, when i am installing my copy of Kubuntu, the installation stops to "mounting root file system", i tryed to redownload and reburn the cd 3 times, but it dindt worked. Can someone help me? I'ts my first time with linux!
[07:08] <gnomefreak> tylersmith: check the repo again
[07:08] <jarska> gnomefreak done
[07:08] <tylersmith> gnomefreak: Thanks what does this mean?
[07:09] <gnomefreak> jarska: copy the text int he white box and paste it into your file thats open please hit enter 2 times after the first repo so the paste starts 2 lines below it
[07:09] <gnomefreak> tylersmith: hold on i think that repos is wrong
[07:10] <gnomefreak> tylersmith: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-141 dapper main
[07:10] <jarska> gnomefreak done
[07:10] <Gingillo> please help me =(
[07:10] <gnomefreak> jarska: save and close
[07:11] <gnomefreak> tylersmith: you are missing a 1 int he repo
[07:11] <jarska> gnomefreak done
[07:11] <gnomefreak> jarska: in terminal type sudo apt-get update
[07:11] <jarska> gnomefreak: Done.
[07:11] <gnomefreak> jarska: when its done you might have updates
[07:12] <gnomefreak> jarska: any updates?
[07:12] <jarska> gnomefreak ok
[07:12] <tylersmith> gnomefreak: I checked "http://kubuntu.org/packages/" amarok-141 is there and is added in my repositories... Still can't find Amarok when I search for it with adept.
[07:12] <jarska> gnomefreak wait a sec.... it updated something
[07:12] <gnomefreak> jarska: ok
[07:12] <gnomefreak> tylersmith: your not using the " are you?
[07:13] <jarska> gnomefreak; it updated packagelist(s)
[07:13] <tylersmith> gnomefreak: Nope.
[07:13] <gnomefreak> jarska: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin
[07:13] <asimon> tylersmith: Did you 'fetch updates' after adding this repo?
[07:13] <gnomefreak> tylersmith: please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin
[07:14] <jarska> gnomefreak: wow I think it works
[07:14] <klerfayt> xset m 1 0 is the most precise? or is it xset m 1 1?
[07:14] <tylersmith> asimon: Yes. I did a fetch updates.
[07:16] <tylersmith> Where is the pastebin?
[07:16] <rajiv> hello everyone
[07:17] <asimon> tylersmith: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[07:17] <jarska> gnomefreak: do i have to enabla and configure it if i want it to work as a firefox plugin?
[07:17] <tylersmith> gnomefreak: I did a gedit on /etc/apt/sources.list and found deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-141 dapper main  in the file.
[07:18] <Gingillo> gnomefreak can you help me?
[07:18] <Lynoure> If someone here has experience with setting up bluetooth sync for a Palm device, I could use your help. Does it really take all the stops from http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8185 ?
[07:19] <Gingillo> hi, i have a problem, when i am installing my copy of Kubuntu, the installation stops to "mounting root file system", i tryed to redownload and reburn the cd 3 times, but it dindt worked. Can someone help me? I'ts my first time with linux!
[07:19] <gnomefreak> Gingillo: is this desktop cd that you are installing from?
[07:19] <nald> gnomefreak, it worked also for me ;) thanx a lot!
[07:20] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[07:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:20] <gnomefreak> tylersmith: ^^
[07:20] <gnomefreak> nald: what did?
[07:20] <zipper> Gingillo, Are you trying to install kubuntu on a laptop or a stationary pc?
[07:20] <Gingillo> gnomefreak: here it is the name of the installation cd "kubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso"
[07:20] <Gingillo> zipper: stationary pc
[07:20] <nald> i had the same prolbem as jarska
[07:20] <gnomefreak> Gingillo: ok
[07:20] <gnomefreak> nald: ok cool
[07:20] <tylersmith> gnomefreak: What does ^^ mean? Did I offend you?
[07:20] <gnomefreak> tylersmith: no
[07:20] <zipper> tylersmith, it's a smiley
[07:21] <gnomefreak> tylersmith: please put the file on pastebin. i had ubotu post the link for pastebin
[07:21] <zipper> tylersmith, used by many (korean) starcraft players
[07:21] <Healot> ^_^
[07:21] <Healot> more like it
[07:21] <asimon> I though it were just two arrows pointing upwards to the pastebin info ;-)
[07:21] <gnomefreak> Gingillo: im not sure. maybe the md5sums dont match. maybe you didnt burn it on lowest speed
[07:21] <gnomefreak> asimon: it was
[07:21] <zipper> oh :)
[07:22] <tylersmith> gnomefreak: I put it in the pastebin. Am I supposed to add an address or something?
[07:22] <rajiv> hey gingillo,i had a problem while installing kubuntu that it would hang while scanning for security repos,the prob was that my cd-rom after not reading for some time dies down n kubuntu installer isnt able to run it back up so the trick is to keep ur cd-rom busy,what i did was to open up konqueror n go thru all the documentation till the installation completed
[07:22] <zipper> Hmm, anyone knows if there's a danish mirror for (k)ubuntu i could use in my repositories?
[07:23] <Gingillo> gnomefreak: i burned the cd 3 times with 3 different files, but at the max speed, must i try with the lowest? (i don't know what " md5sums" means
[07:23] <gnomefreak> tylersmith: click send than give me the new link it gives you
[07:23] <zipper> After messing around a bit, i now get this error whenever i install anything with apt-get : DESTROY created new reference to dead object ' Qt::VBoxLayout', <> line 1 during global destruction. - how can i fix this?
[07:23] <gnomefreak> Gingillo: do you have the iso still saved?
[07:23] <Gingillo> gnomefreack: yea
[07:24] <Gingillo> *freak :P sorry
[07:24] <gnomefreak> ok Gingillo in terminal type md5sum <name of iso>
[07:24] <Gingillo> i am on windows :P it's the first time i try to use linux
[07:24] <gnomefreak> Gingillo: than give me the output of it (it may take a while)
[07:24] <nald> again big thanx... i'm able to play dvds now... cu!
[07:24] <rajiv> hmmm Gingillo
[07:24] <rajiv> try what i said
[07:25] <Gingillo> sorry can you query it to me? i did a cleanup :P
[07:25] <Gingillo> gnomefreak:  i am on windows :P it's the first time i try to use linux..
[07:25] <rajiv> i had a problem while installing kubuntu that it would hang while scanning for security repos,the prob was that my cd-rom after not reading for some time dies down n kubuntu installer isnt able to run it back up so the trick is to keep ur cd-rom busy,what i did was to open up konqueror n go thru all the documentation till the installation completed
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> *the horror*
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:26] <rajiv> Gigillo read this
[07:26] <Gingillo> ok
[07:26] <rajiv> sry Gingillo
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> lol
[07:26] <rajiv> i mistyped
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> ya know - its amazing how nasty many of these kde themes look.
[07:26] <apu> how it'spossible
[07:27] <Gingillo> sorry rajiv i didnt understand vry well what i have to do
[07:27] <apu> du -h is seeing a folder
[07:27] <apu> and it's subfolders
[07:27] <apu> in krusader or konq i'm not see that folder
[07:27] <apu> s
[07:27] <rajiv> while installing,just open up ur konqueror n keep pressing some links
[07:27] <osh_> Dr_Willis: Isn't it amazing that there isn't just themes that you can download and just set as the default? Most of them require "configure && make && make install" or some bullshit like that.
[07:27] <rajiv> make sure u keep ur cd-rom running
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> osh_,  thats for the special effects features of the themes normally
[07:28] <Gingillo> while installing? how do i open konqueror?
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> osh_,  but the kde 'get wallpapers from the web site' feature is nifty
[07:28] <Gingillo> sorry for my newbity :P
[07:28] <nearfar> the fact kubuntu opens #kubuntu by default in Konversation has bought this many people here
[07:29] <rajiv> quite true mearfar
[07:29] <osh_> Dr_Willis: Might be. Still, there should be something similar for kde-themes as there is for superkaramba. Just point and click and stuff'll work. IMHO.
[07:29] <rajiv> nearfar*
[07:29] <gnomefreak> Gingillo: from the menu
[07:29] <Gingillo> by pressing f1?
[07:29] <Gingillo> *F1
[07:29] <gnomefreak> Gingillo: its a live cd so you should see a desktop with menu and everything
[07:29] <Gingillo> O_O
[07:30] <Gingillo> no i dont
[07:30] <gnomefreak> Gingillo: when you put the cd to boot from cd to isntall you should see the first item is start live cd or install
[07:30] <Gingillo> yes
[07:30] <Gingillo> i choose install
[07:31] <gnomefreak> Gingillo: choose that option and it should boot you into kde with a K in the lower left corner of screen
[07:31] <xwolf-> !adsl
[07:31] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[07:31] <gnomefreak> and 3 icons beside it
[07:31] <Gingillo> ok gnomefreak i'm going to try
[07:31] <Gingillo> thanks
[07:31] <rajiv> is there any place where i can d/w a collection of kd-themes bundled
[07:32] <rajiv> kde-themes*
[07:32] <jihi> hi, how can i setup update-grub, that it updates a menu.lst in /media/hda1/Grub/ and not in /root/Grub/ ?
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> osh_,  superkaramba is all python. not C/C++ as far as i know.. and you dont want to know the disasters ive had with Karamba/Superkaramba. :0
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> osh_,  of course if everyone made .debs  for kubuntu - it would be best for us. Lol.
[07:34] <osh_> Dr_Willis: Probably not. I'm just saying that superkaramba is a great app that works as expected. It does things the way I'd like them to be done. :-)
[07:35] <osh_> Dr_Willis: I just installed vmware to be able to make debs. Seems like not many in this channel knows how to make them so I'm a bit hard pressed to find help.
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> heh - ive rarely had superkaramba work as expected.. :P seems i always got to twiddle with the stuff.
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> Ive never made debs either.
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> im too lazy
[07:36] <osh_> Dr_Willis: there is a kubuntu-devel isn't there? Could that be the right place to ask for help about it? I've been creating redhat rpms for a living (part time anyway) so I'm no stranger to packaging. Just that I've never done debs before and they're a bit different.
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> kinstaller - application installer for KDE  - Hmm - is mentioned at the kde theme site... not tried that.
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> !apt-get
[07:37] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> The apt-get homepage has more docs then i can ever read. :P
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> other then that.. ive messed with rpms more then debs as well.
[07:38] <osh_> Dr_Willis: yes, i'm aware of the docs, but sometimes it just helps to ask someone. docs are great for some things but not for others.
[07:39] <rajiv> people,is there any other distro that i can try
[07:40] <osh_> rajiv: mandriva. used to be the one true user-friendly distro.
[07:40] <nearfar> superkaramba doesn't work
[07:40] <rajiv> but mandriva aint free
[07:41] <rajiv> its biased 2wards club members
[07:41] <osh_> rajiv: yes it is. it's just nagging you to become a member all the time. just ignore that. I run it on one machine. does it's job quite nicely.
[07:41] <Agios> Mandriva is free.
[07:42] <rajiv> gentoo,arch dint run on my pc
[07:42] <rajiv> any other good distro which instals packages frm source
[07:42] <osh_> rajiv: freebsd.
[07:43] <rajiv> but is bsd ,linux?
[07:43] <Healot> debian/ubuntu can do that too, if you enabled the deb-src repos
[07:43] <osh_> rajiv: nope, it's bsd. but it's a good distro that installs from source.
[07:44] <Agios> rajiv: http://distrowatch.com/
[07:44] <Agios> about 100 listed there, take your pick
[07:44] <rajiv> i got lost browsing distrowatch
[07:44] <rajiv> ubuntu rockx but now im feeling kinda bored
[07:45] <insanekane> rajiv: ubuntu just isn't as exciting as a BSOD
[07:45] <pieter> hello folks
[07:45] <rajiv> hmmmm....
[07:45] <rajiv> mayb ill try bsd
[07:46] <pieter> is there anyone who can help installing a Prism2 wireless PCMCIA card?
[07:47] <pieter> anyone....?
[07:48] <rajiv> sry pieter,i donno nythin about PCMCIA h/w
[07:48] <pieter> would you have a good tip where to look for info?
[07:49] <rajiv> google
[07:49] <rajiv> or ubuntuforums.org
[07:51] <sahasrara> does anyone know is a cisco modem/router a good choice for getting online with dialup?
[07:53] <sahasrara> oops i think that's a dsl modem
[07:53] <flaccid> is there a service manager in ubuntu
[07:53] <flaccid> cli
[07:54] <m_tadeu> hi...i'm unable to boot from a kubuntu cd...bios is set for the cd first...its an old pc...whats wrong?
[07:55] <rajiv> how much is ur RAM
[07:55] <intelikey> need 128m ram to run the live
[07:55] <Agios> flaccid: yes, I like sysv-rc-conf
[07:55] <m_tadeu> oh crap :D
[07:56] <rajiv> 128 for xfce,gnome n kde wont run unless 256
[07:56] <flaccid> Agios: install that by apt-get?
[07:56] <Agios> flaccid: yep. apt-get install sysv-rc-conf
[07:56] <Agios> it's similar to the old chkconfig script
[07:56] <intelikey> m_tadeu you can use hoary or breezy install cd  in as little as 64m   then update.
[07:57] <KaiHanari> Is there a gui app anywhere pre-installed for having programs start on log-in to KDE?
[07:57] <intelikey> rajiv are you sure about kubuntu ?
[07:57] <rajiv> BUM
[07:57] <m_tadeu> i have 128
[07:57] <rajiv> yup intelikey,it dint boot on my friends pc with 192mb ram
[07:58] <intelikey> rajiv i installed kubuntu on this box with 192 so that don't wash
[07:58] <Tm_T> KaiHanari: there is, Konqueror
[07:58] <rajiv> hmmm..........
[07:58] <rajiv> M-tadeu,i u want to install kubuntu or ubuntu in 128mb ram,beter d/w alternate cd
[07:58] <KaiHanari> Tm_T, eh? how?
[07:58] <Agios> KaiHanari: drag and drop to ~/.kde/Autostart ??
[07:59] <flaccid> thanks
[07:59] <Tm_T> KaiHanari: all you need to do is make links/scripts to ~/.kde/Autostart
[07:59] <Tm_T> I prefer scripts
[07:59] <rajiv> how come intelikey,his pc wont boot only at 192 mb ram
[07:59] <KaiHanari> bleh
[07:59] <KaiHanari> i meant EASY... gui. writing a guide for noobs
[07:59] <m_tadeu> but 128 is too small for kde is it?
[07:59] <Agios> I figure if he asks for a GUI he's not into scripts :)
[07:59] <intelikey> anyone know init ?
[08:00] <intelikey> i'm in the wrong channel for that....
[08:00] <rajiv> m_tadeu,try installing frm alternate cd
[08:01] <m_tadeu> rajiv: yup..got that. but after installing, will kde run fine on 128MB?
[08:01] <rajiv> it should,or so they claim
[08:01] <rajiv> y dont u try xfce,its kewl
[08:02] <m_tadeu> 'cos my girlfriend likes kde ;)
[08:03] <rajiv> well if u love ur girlfriend so much,buy her another 128mb
[08:03] <rajiv> i donno for sure but they claim that kde will run on 128mb
[08:04] <m_tadeu> its a kinda old pc...her new pc is on support, so its not worth it
[08:05] <rajiv> im having 512mb ram,but kubuntu is leaving just 4-5mb free mainly coz of background applications,but ive read that its the most memory efficient dektop environment
[08:05] <rajiv> better do a search on google or post ur query on forums,if someone has succeeded to run it then ull get to know
[08:06] <KaiHanari> I have run KDE on 32 MB ram, rajiv , m_tadeu , but it was not kubuntu. it was Red Hat 9
[08:06] <KaiHanari> ran quite nice
[08:07] <rajiv> hey m_tadeu check this out,http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=310719,but its for hoary not dapper
[08:07] <Agios> I can't imagine any GUI running nice in 32MB RAM. Even 512 is marginal anymore.
[08:08] <rajiv> yup i agree
[08:09] <flaccid> seet thats nice Agios
[08:09] <KaiHanari> Agios, well, it did. it was 2 years ago. it ran quite nice on 32mb ram, and 166 mhz proc.
[08:09] <flaccid> sweet
[08:09] <zipper> !grub
[08:09] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:09] <flaccid> the sysv-rc-conf
[08:11] <m_tadeu> grub should show up anyway with 128MB...i don't think the memory is doing damage at this phase
[08:15] <m_tadeu> the live cd one, i mean
[08:18] <ubuntu> hi all
[08:19] <ubuntu> i'm installing kubuntu, and i have a question with partitioning
[08:20] <ubuntu> it asks me which partitions i want to use
[08:21] <ubuntu> hehe, problem resolved
[08:21] <ubuntu> solved*
[08:22] <ubuntu> i had a swap and a root partition since a SuSE installation: have I to format them? both?
[08:23] <Agios> I would
[08:23] <ubuntu> ok, thanks Agios
[08:23] <Agios> np
[08:23] <ubuntu> see you
[08:23] <toni_> ciao
[08:24] <Healot> Agios for Strings
[08:24] <toni_> ciao
[08:25] <toni_> ciao
[08:25] <toni_> ciao
[08:25] <toni_> ciao
[08:25] <Agios> Healot: ??
[08:25] <zipper_> Finally, my laptop is nearly working :)
[08:26] <Agios> half of everything I have nearly works
[08:26] <zipper_> I have trouble with my soundcard. The speakers doesnt work at all, and when i plug in my headphones i can hear the sound, but it's very low and distorted. I have an asus a6r laptop, and i've used this guide for installing the driver : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76307. Any hints on what could be wrong?
[08:27] <Healot> Agios for Strings - DJ Tiesto
[08:28] <zipper_> Agios, i've been working on this machine a few days now. Had to fix 3d acceleration, touchpad, touchpad scroll, WiFi card, power management. Sigh, now i'm down to only one thing : my soundcard
[08:32] <Agios> Healot: gotcha
[08:33] <Agios> zipper: I suspect you are using the wrong driver for your sound chip
[08:35] <Agios> which to use I don't know
[08:38] <soon> I asked before and NFS was recommended, but now Im not so sure ... I want to exchange files between to kubuntu boxes on a LAN ... both ways!
[08:39] <soon> is NFS the best solution? Should I have one client and one server or do I need to servers ensure I can exchange both ways?
[08:39] <Agios> NFS is insecure anyway. I use Samba but it's not as easy to set up.
[08:39] <Agios> NFS will work though.
[08:40] <soon> and does it make any difference which box is the server and which is the client?
[08:44] <zipper_> Would anyone please take a look at my problem with my soundcard? I've explained it in details here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1372116#post1372116
[08:44] <edmon> hi all again
[08:44] <soon> hi
[08:44] <edmon> i have already installed kubuntu, but i would like to change the configuration of the GRUB. How can i do it?
[08:45] <Agios> edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:45] <zipper_> !grub > edmon
[08:46] <edmon> thanks Agios and zipper_
[08:46] <zipper_> np
[08:48] <Agios> zipper_: lspci | grep audio  and see what sound chip you have
[08:48] <edmon> well, i have found another problem: i can loggin like admin in the terminal
[08:48] <rebarned> hello to all
[08:49] <edmon> i write the password I put in the installation, and it says it's incorrect
[08:49] <Agios> edmon: you use your normal user to login then sudu for root operations
[08:49] <rebarned> Can someone tell me, how can I build QtWvDialer on Kubuntu 6.06?
[08:49] <edmon> sudu?
[08:49] <rebarned> I have build-essential & checkinstall
[08:50] <edmon> i tried su
[08:50] <Agios> use sudo
[08:50] <rebarned> But, ./configure says, that
[08:50] <edmon> Agios:  well, i logged with sudo su, but could you explain me the difference between su and sudo su? please
[08:50] <rebarned> *******************************************************************************
[08:50] <rebarned>  QTDIR is not set. This package requires a correctly set up
[08:50] <rebarned>  qt. To get qt visit http://www.trolltech.com
[08:50] <rebarned> *******************************************************************************
[08:51] <rebarned> But I have qt on my system, 'coz I have kde =)
[08:51] <rebarned> How can I solve this problem???
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> QTDIR is not set
[08:51] <zipper_> Agios, i have a bcm4318 chip afaik... let me paste the output in that thread
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> see what its set to. :P
[08:51] <Agios> edmon: well, you could man sudo and read about it, but sudo executes a single command as root. That single command can be su.
[08:52] <rebarned> How can I do that? =)
[08:52] <asimon> rebarned: you need also have libqt3-mt-dev installed, and before calling configure, do 'export QTDIR=/usr/share/qt3'
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> its not set here either. :P
[08:52] <zipper_> Agios, hmm, apparently i dont have a  soundcard now at all
[08:52] <Agios> zipper_: that would be a problem alright :) Leave off the grep and just lspci and look for it manually.
[08:53] <zipper_> Agios, tried that already, i cant find it. I can find something i *thing* might be the soundcard, however it listed as Unknown device
[08:53] <rebarned> oh tnx =)
[08:54] <zipper_> Agios, hmm, could it be listed as a "SMBus" device?
[08:54] <zipper_> nevermind
[08:54] <Agios> not likely, no
[08:54] <zipper_> just saw it was marked "Ati"
[08:54] <Agios> well, it might be
[08:54] <Agios> paste that line here
[08:55] <zipper_> 0000:00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 SMBus Controller (rev 82)
[08:55] <zipper_> there is also two ati unknown devices, Host bridge and a PCI bridge
[08:56] <Agios> I thnk the sound system hangs off those but they themselves are not it.
[08:56] <zipper_> Hmm, i really cant make out what's supposed to be the soundcard
[08:57] <zipper_> let me put it in a pastebin
[08:57] <Agios> also do: lsmod | grep snd
[08:57] <Agios> and paste that
[08:57] <Cagari> hi does anyone knows where to get libc6 2.3.6-6?
[08:58] <zipper_> Agios, http://pastebin.dk/index.php?show=1986
[08:59] <Agios> I used to buy nothing but ASUS MB's and finally switched to something else because of squirelly problems like this.
[08:59] <asimon> Cagari: Did you try http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glibc/ ?
[09:00] <djk_> Agios: and yet you don't even remember the name of 'something else' :p
[09:00] <zipper_> Agios, i knew there was going to be a lot of problems getting linux on this machine when buying it. But the price and the performance/quality was exactly what i was looking for
[09:00] <Cagari> asimon: no i did not know ty.
[09:01] <zipper_> Agios, i figured i might as well give it a try
[09:01] <Cagari> 2.3.6-6 not supported by ubuntu :\
[09:01] <Cagari> trying to put packages without internet connection is a terrible headache.
[09:01] <zipper_> Agios, got any idea on what i should do?
[09:02] <Agios> still looking
[09:02] <Agios> djk_: ECS :)
[09:03] <zipper_> Agios, okay, thanks a lot mate. Take your time
[09:03] <Agios> zipper_: have you tried simply using the oss driver in kcontrol?
[09:04] <zipper_> uhm, no
[09:04] <zipper_> let me give that a shot
[09:04] <zipper_> oh wait
[09:04] <zipper_> yeah, i've tried that
[09:04] <zipper_> alsa and oss can playback, but no sound from speakers, and very low/distorted in headphones
[09:05] <zipper_> i think it's driver related
[09:05] <Agios> both oss and alsa do the same thing?
[09:06] <MrBallZ> hi, I have a question, where can I enable " Size View" for Konqueror, it seems I can't find it anywhere, it's not on  the " View " menu ...
[09:07] <zipper_> Agios, yes
[09:10] <asimon> MrBallZ: do you mean View->View Mode->File Size View ?
[09:11] <Agios> 437b  SB450 HDA Audio
[09:12] <MrBallZ> asimon: yes, that same one , I don't have it ...
[09:12] <MrBallZ> I'm using dapper 6.06 ...
[09:13] <asimon> MrBallZ: of it's not there you need to install konq-plugins , that package contains several plugins for konquerer, including hte file size view
[09:13] <MrBallZ> asimon: in one comp I have KDE 3.5.4  and in the other one I have 3.5.3  , and  I don't have it in either one
[09:13] <MrBallZ> asimon: Thnx
[09:15] <zipper__> Agios, i'm sorry, it got disconnected. You asked if both alsa and oss is doing the same thing and yes, they are
[09:15] <Agios> hmmm
[09:15] <Agios> I may have found something. Not sure yet.
[09:15] <Agios> nm
[09:17] <Agios> zipper_:  Do a google search from linux.google.com for: ATI SB450 sound
[09:19] <zipper__> Agios, according to the specifications of my laptop, i have an AC'97 soundcard
[09:19] <zipper__> Agios, you sure ATI SB450 is the right one?
[09:20] <Agios> I think AC'97 is a supported feature, not a model. Mine is AC'97 too.
[09:20] <zipper__> i see
[09:21] <zipper__> thanks, i'll try looking up that ati thing
[09:21] <Agios> http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Debian/2005-07/3164.html
[09:21] <Agios> similar problem on similar hardware
[09:21] <zipper__> thanks again
[09:22] <zipper__> all help is greatly appriciated
[09:22] <asimon> AFAIK ac97 is a analog/digital decoder.
[09:22] <LeeJunFan> anyone here using ktorrent 2.0 final? Where'd the d@!# plugins go?
[09:22] <Healot> it's a feature not a model... heh
[09:23] <zipper__> Agios, doesnt look like he found a solution =/
[09:23] <dhq> how do i update ktorrent
[09:23] <Agios> nope
[09:23] <asimon> LeeJunFan: What do you mean with where do they go? You find them under Settings->Configure ktorrent->Plugins
[09:24] <Agios> I have seen a lot of kernel patches to the ATI SB450 kernel modules though. A more recent kernel might or might not help.
[09:24] <LeeJunFan> asimon: mine's empty. I tried the package from ktorrent's page and also compiling from src - no plugins.
[09:24] <Agios> gotta go for a bit. bbl
[09:24] <zipper__> Agios, okay, thanks
[09:25] <Agios> poke around some of those hits. If you think a kernel upgrade will help I'll show you how to do it.
[09:25] <|lostbyte|> Hi guys :)
[09:25] <asimon> LeeJunFan: Oh, I use the package from Edgy, and there the plugins are there.
[09:25] <LeeJunFan> asimon: hrm, guess I'll try that. odd.
[09:26] <|lostbyte|> LeeJunFan, Is the ktorrent 2.0 ver in the repos ? Already..
[09:26] <|lostbyte|> LeeJunFan, i Dont see it ?
[09:27] <LeeJunFan> asimon, |lostbyte| : looks like thats an old version in there.
[09:27] <zipper__> Agios, i know how to install a new kernel, i just really dont feel like it
[09:27] <|lostbyte|> LeeJunFan, Sad..
[09:27] <asimon> LeeJunFan: Edgy has version 2.0-0ubuntu2
[09:27] <zipper__> Agios, usually involves a lot of work
[09:27] <LeeJunFan> I wonder if it got moved to main with edgy? it's not in universe.
[09:28] <asimon> LeeJunFan: It's in main
[09:28] <LeeJunFan> asimon, |lostbyte| : yeah, it's in main.
[09:28] <asimon> LeeJunFan: It's even part of the default installation
[09:29] <|lostbyte|> LeeJunFan, I just updated the repos, LEt me try again..
[09:29] <LeeJunFan> asimon: cool -thanks. Perhaps I might try edgy soon anyway.
[09:29] <asimon> LeeJunFan: Be ready for some breakage if you try it ;-)
[09:29] <LeeJunFan> asimon: as usual.
[09:30] <LeeJunFan> I'm used to running devel.
[09:30] <asimon> LeeJunFan: But the package on the ktorrent website should have the plugins, that is really strange.
[09:30] <crazy_penguin> Good evening all! :)
[09:31] <LeeJunFan> asimon: yeah, and edgy's package leaves unresolved deps for dapper. I'll take a look at the source and see what's up.
[09:31] <asimon> LeeJunFan: you probably need to rebuild it
[09:33] <LeeJunFan> asimon: yeah, must be broken makefile. I went into plugin dir and make installed and they are all there now - they got compiled, but not installed.
[09:34] <asimon> LeeJunFan: They should be installed under /usr/lib/kde3/
[09:35] <LeeJunFan> asimon: now I'm still missing the file status info that's normally located below the list of torrents.
[09:36] <asimon> LeeJunFan: you must enable the infowidgetplugin for this
[09:36] <LeeJunFan> asimon: ah - I'm still missing that one.
[09:36] <karsten> hallo
[09:37] <asimon> LeeJunFan: I think it's the file /usr/lib/kde3/ktinfowidgetplugin.[so|la
[09:38] <LeeJunFan> asimon: yeah, it's in the dir - just not being recognized.
[09:39] <asimon> LeeJunFan: Hmm, I fear I have no idea why that would be.
[09:40] <LeeJunFan> asimon: heh, me either - every other plugin works.
[09:40] <asimon> LeeJunFan: Do you have also the file /usr/share/services/ktinfowidgetplugin.desktop installed?
[09:40] <LeeJunFan> asimon: yep.
[09:41] <asimon> LeeJunFan: Those infos are overrated anyway, somewhen the download will (hopefully) be finished. That's all that matters. ;-)
[09:42] <LeeJunFan> asimon: yeah, but when it's multipart dl's it's nice to know which parts are finished.
[09:46] <dhq> i cant run any audio application when i am using skype
[09:47] <LeeJunFan> dhq: that's because skype claims use of the audio device directly rather than using a sound daemon like arts (which shares).
[09:48] <Agios> zipper: I can pull in a new kernel from kernel.org and be up and running on it in an hour :)
[09:49] <zipper> Agios, the download would for me probably take more than an hour itself :P
[09:49] <zipper> would be damn nice to get it working though, but i really hope there's an other solution than compiling a new kernel
[09:50] <Agios> well, there might be but I haven't found anyone with a solution yet.
[09:50] <dhq> LeeJunFan: so what do i do
[09:50] <zipper> Agios, same here... i guess i can only hope for it to get some attention from the driver writers in the near future
[09:51] <LeeJunFan> dhq: I'm not sure what others might be doing to get around that, I don't use skype myself.
[09:51] <LeeJunFan> asimon: got it working now - apparently it didn't like being installed in /usr/local for 2 plugins, in prefix=/usr now and it's working fine.
[09:51] <zipper> it's like a thorn in my eye... _Everything_ else works, but my soundcard, how rediculous is that? :P
[09:52] <asimon> dhq: you may try to start skype via 'artsdsp skype', that tries to route sound output from skype through arts, but I don't know if that works with skype.
[09:52] <osh_> So, if I've updated to kde3.5.4 and some localizations broke, where do I report that? launchpad.net? kde.org? nowhere?
[09:52] <dhq> asimon: ok thanks
[09:52] <Agios> zipper: if it wren't a laptop you could plug a $10 sound card in it and be done with it :)
[09:52] <dhq> asimon: will try
[09:53] <Agios> or is it a laptop?
[09:53] <asimon> LeeJunFan: Ah, yes, mixing prefixes for KDE stuff is a bad idea.
[09:53] <zipper> Agios, yes, it is a laptop
[09:54] <MrBallZ> who has problems with skype ?
[09:54] <asimon> osh_: Usualy launchpad. If you are sure that it's an upstream bug (i.e. not related to ubuntu packaging) than you can also report it directly upstream at bugs.kde.org
[09:54] <zipper> Agios, also, i just read a guide that indicated that it's an ATI SB400 device i've got in it
[09:55] <osh_> asimon: i'm not sure of anything. I just noticed that I no longer have localized text in kopete.
[09:55] <asimon> osh_: just report it to launchpad's malone.
[09:56] <dhq> asimon: when i type "artsdsp skype" skype opens when i start a call it just closes
[09:56] <osh_> asimon: will do.
[09:56] <asimon> dhq: Okay, that means that doesn't work. Sorry.
[09:56] <dhq> asimon: so that means i cant do anything bout it
[09:57] <asimon> dhq: That trick worked a couple of years ago for doom and quake ;-)
[09:57] <asimon> dhq: Well, at least nothing I know of.
[09:57] <LeeJunFan> asimon, dhq: yeah, I've had bad lucking using artsdsp with anything full duplex - teamspeak as well.
[09:57] <dhq> asimon: thanks anyways
[09:58] <Agios> zipper: could be. The pci id that lspci showed mapped to a SB450 though. Some of the kernel issues were misidentification of the devices though.
[09:58] <Agios> still, SB400 and SB450 may well use the same driver.
[09:59] <jmichaelx> would there be a way to restore the my display settings to what they were when i first installed kubuntu?
[09:59] <jmichaelx> without re-installing.....
[10:00] <LeeJunFan> jmichaelx: dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver
[10:00] <guiller> p
[10:00] <jmichaelx> LeeJunFan: ty
[10:00] <dhq> is bluetooth headset compatible in kubuntu
[10:00] <LeeJunFan> jmichaelx: you might want a -p option in there - man dpkg-reconfigure to read more of what it does.
[10:01] <fdoving> dhq: i have a plantronics 640, i can use it with the snd-bt-sco module.
[10:01] <jmichaelx> LeeJunFan: i think i will just reinstall (again)
[10:01] <osh_> Why isn't there a "report bug" link in the menu here? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+package/kopete
[10:01] <dhq> fdoving: i can use it with skype too
[10:02] <wind> what do i need to download to get the trailers on apple.com to work
[10:02] <wind> and the trailers on imdb.com
[10:02] <fdoving> dhq: i haven't tested much, used it to listen to music once, just to check if it worked. :)
[10:02] <LeeJunFan> jmichaelx: I'd try reconfigure first - it's pretty simple and if you hose it works you learn something other than how to re-install.
[10:02] <jmichaelx> wind: i think mplayer will play those fine
[10:02] <LeeJunFan> jmichaelx: if it works that is - you learn something else.
[10:03] <jmichaelx> LeeJunFan: i know i should try it, but i don't have all afternoon
[10:03] <dhq> i cant run any audio application when i am using skype
[10:03] <asimon> osh_: I dunno, you can use https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs , there is a 'report bug' link at the left top.
[10:04] <wind> what about play them through firefox
[10:04] <LeeJunFan> jmichaelx: dpkg-reconfigure -p critical xorg-xserver
[10:04] <LeeJunFan> jmichaelx: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -p critical xorg-xserver
[10:04] <Tommy> !flash
[10:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:05] <jmichaelx> LeeJunFan: when i boot-up kubuntu, it loads everything but then just gives me the screen with the kubuntu logo (kde does not start), is there a way to get a command line/terminal from there?
[10:05] <yamal> is it possible to set k3b to not automatically calculate the md5 sum when selecting an image for burning?
[10:05] <LeeJunFan> jmichaelx: ctrl-alt-f1 or f2, etc.. should get you to a vty
[10:05] <jmichaelx> wind: you will need to mplayer firefox/mozilla plugin. you can find that in adept or synaptic
[10:06] <jmichaelx> LeeJunFan: ty again, i will give this a try
[10:06] <wind> what would i be looking for?
[10:06] <asimon> yamal: Not that I know, but you don't have to wait for it to finish, you can just go on
[10:07] <yamal> asimon: I know... but it annoys me :)
[10:07] <yamal> slows down the system quite a bit
[10:08] <jmichaelx> LeeJunFan: it tells me that xorg-xserver is not installed lol
[10:09] <osh_> asimon: odd, I reported it under "kopete" but the bug is filed under "kdenetwork". Oh well, as long as it works...
[10:09] <LeeJunFan> jmichaelx: sry - xserver-xorg
[10:09] <asimon> osh_: That's okay, kdenetwork is the name of the source package where kopete comes from.
[10:10] <asimon> osh_: The bug tracker always uses the source package name, which can be a little bit confusing
[10:10] <osh_> Heh, sweet. I've got 61000 karma points in launchpad. Wonder what those are for.
[10:10] <osh_> asimon: Ok. Thanks for the tip.
[10:11] <asimon> osh_: The karma is for your bug reports/comments and translations. :-)
[10:13] <osh_> asimon: are they good for anything? can I use karma-points to vote for which bugs should be fixed first or something? or are they just stroking my ego?
[10:13] <jmichaelx> wind: did you look for mplayer in adept? you should find the firefox plugin listed there
[10:13] <wind> got it, thanks
[10:13] <jmichaelx> no problem
[10:13] <asimon> osh_: Just for our big egos ;-)
[10:14] <jmichaelx> LeeJunFan: you are awesome, my computer is back to normal
[10:14] <jmichaelx> :-D
[10:14] <LeeJunFan> jmichaelx: yer welcome. :)
[10:15] <osh_> asimon: oh, ok. would be nice if they were good for something though.
[10:17] <asimon> osh_: if you have 10.000.000 Mark Shuttleworth will invite you out to dinner ;-)
[10:18] <osh_> asimon: not that keen on men. Pass. ;-)
[10:18] <zipper> !ssh
[10:19] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[10:19] <northstar> when amarok attempts to play an mp3 it begins to play, but then jumps to the next song on the playlist... any ideas?
[10:19] <mpc1000> anyone do any ruby/ruby on rails development on kubunut?
[10:19] <mpc1000> err kubuntu
[10:19] <jmichaelx> northstar: do you have your codecs installed?
[10:20] <northstar> yea i believe so
[10:20] <jmichaelx> hmmm
[10:20] <northstar> jmichaelx: xmms will play the files
[10:20] <LeeJunFan> northstar: apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[10:20] <mpc1000> rid yourself free of windows apps :P
[10:20] <bigbill52a> wireless fails to work with kubuntu, but works fine with pclinuxox...i would prefer kubuntu
[10:21] <jmichaelx> you may also want to see if you have the latest version of amaroK from the repos
[10:21] <LeeJunFan> northstar: amarok uses xine (by default) for decoding, you need the libxine-extracodecs for libxine to decode mp3's.
[10:21] <jmichaelx> bigbill52a: what chipset does your card use?
[10:21] <bigbill52a> the very same program finds it in pclinuxos..but doesnt find it kubuntu
[10:21] <bigbill52a> zydas
[10:21] <northstar> LeeJunFan: for some reason libxine-extracodecs isn't in my repository...
[10:21] <LeeJunFan> !repos > northstar
[10:21] <northstar> LeeJunFan: i have "universe" enabled as well
[10:22] <jmichaelx> i don't know anything about zydas
[10:22] <bigbill52a> wireless assistant works fine in pclinuxos
[10:22] <zipper> !ftp
[10:22] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[10:22] <LeeJunFan> northstar: hrm.
[10:22] <bigbill52a> it is a usb adapter
[10:22] <zipper> !pure-ftpd
[10:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pure-ftpd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:22] <zipper> !ftpd
[10:22] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[10:22] <northstar> LeeJunFan: could they have changed the name these codecs are listed under?
[10:23] <LeeJunFan> northstar: it's in multiverse
[10:23] <northstar> LeeJunFan: grr..
[10:23] <northstar> LeeJunFan: k, give me second
[10:24] <jmichaelx> bigbill52a: you may have to google that one, or look in the forums
[10:24] <jmichaelx> i know a lot of usb adapters won't work.... i have a few, but have not tried very hard to get them working
[10:25] <asimon> Is there a list of commandos ubotu accepts (i.e. stuff like !repos)?
[10:25] <LeeJunFan> ubotu sucks now - no help available?
[10:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sucks now - no help available? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:26] <aliasfred> !help
[10:26] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[10:26] <asimon> thanks
[10:26] <mcfly> vous connaissez un bon utilitaire pour DL sur les newsgroup pour KDE?
[10:27] <northstar> LeeJunFan: still not coming up...
[10:27] <aliasfred> !fr
[10:27] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:27] <LeeJunFan> northstar: did you apt-get update?
[10:27] <northstar> LeeJunFan: yea
[10:27] <northstar> LeeJunFan: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[10:28] <northstar> LeeJunFan: thats the repository i am using
[10:28] <LeeJunFan> northstar: me too.
[10:29] <LeeJunFan> northstar: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/x/xine-extracodecs/
[10:29] <northstar> LeeJunFan: thanks
[10:29] <LeeJunFan> northstar: perhaps just xine-extracodecs?
[10:29] <northstar> LeeJunFan: was looking for that
[10:30] <asimon> northstar: this line is for dapper-backports, you need to add multiverse to the dapper (not the backport) line too
[10:31] <northstar> asimon: k let me take another look
[10:33] <northstar> asimon: that worked, thanks
[10:33] <northstar> LeeJunFan: thanks for the help
[10:33] <neuraloverload> Hello again
[10:35] <Arkkis> Hey, what could be causing kubuntu to overwrite /etc/resolv.conf every now and then with wrong DNS ip?
[10:35] <Dr_Willis> Arkkis,  ive seen that happen befor.
[10:35] <northstar> LeeJunFan and asimon: spoke to soo... amarok still won't play my mp3s
[10:35] <osh_> Arkkis: dhcp?
[10:36] <sergiusens> Arkkis: resolvconf
[10:36] <Dr_Willis> Arkkis,  not sure what the deal is - but i think its mentioned in the wiki/forums
[10:36] <pushpop> whats the command to show your processes?
[10:36] <Arkkis> osh_, yes, but my dhcp servers dns is not functional, even if it thinks so
[10:36] <Dr_Willis> pushpop,  'ps'
[10:36] <pushpop> thx
[10:36] <LeeJunFan> northstar: hrm. is this a fresh install or a breezy update?
[10:36] <Agios> anyone have a favoritre 4GB USB stick that's 200x?
[10:36] <pushpop> Dr_willis: if I wanted to kill x
[10:36] <LeeJunFan> upgrade
[10:36] <pushpop> what would be the command
[10:37] <Dr_Willis> pushpop,   just alt-ctrl-backspace :P
[10:37] <northstar> LeeJunFan: ok... nvm for some weird reason amarok has now decided to work..
[10:37] <Dr_Willis> much easier
[10:37] <northstar> LeeJunFan: thanks again :)
[10:37] <LeeJunFan> northstar: cool.
[10:37] <pushpop> thanks
[10:38] <cyber_brain_mfkg> I don't have addon managemen in settings in KVIRC !!! how to install it - i've downloaded addon but i cant install it without Addon Management dialog!!!
[10:38] <cyber_brain_mfkg> anybody????
[10:39] <Dr_Willis> check the kvirc homepage yet?
[10:40] <MagicJohn> Hi all - I've a problem while installing Kubuntu from the CD. I booted into Kubuntu (6.06) and from there hit 'Install' on the desktop. All is good until the partitioning section. I left some free space on my hard disk, but it is hidden, and the installer won't let me unide it or create any paritions in it.
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> hidden? Hmm
[10:40] <MagicJohn> Yea - all I can click on when it's selected is 'Property'
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> could use fdisk from the shell/console to unhide it. but ive never seen 'hidden' affect anything.
[10:41] <MagicJohn> Yea, it puzzled me too. Ok thanks
[10:41] <Dr_Willis> or just delete it.. and let the installer auto parttion it.
[10:41] <MagicJohn> It's free space
[10:41] <MagicJohn> That's what gets to me
[10:42] <Dr_Willis> you mean 'unallocated' ?
[10:42] <MagicJohn> Type = 'free'
[10:42] <MagicJohn> I just used Acronis to resize other partitions to make some free space
[10:42] <Ita_andy> hi guys
[10:42] <MagicJohn> But I can't create, delete, resize, or do anything with this free space except view its properties
[10:42] <Dr_Willis> if its not in any partition, then its  'unallocated' :P heh..
[10:43] <Ita_andy> and girls of course if any :-)
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> you need to make a partition tht will contain the  unallocated space.
[10:43] <osh_> MagicJohn: I've seen something similar. I had something like that when I did a parted-thing on my disk. Something about not ending on a cylinder border or something like that.
[10:43] <MagicJohn> Any ideas about how to fix it?
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> osh_,  oh yea.. seen that ages ago.
[10:43] <MagicJohn> There is no partition there.
[10:43] <MagicJohn> Btw, what's the default password for su ;)
[10:44] <MagicJohn> Oh doh, sudo, silly me
[10:44] <neuraloverload> Lol
[10:44] <osh_> MagicJohn: perhaps change the size of it again, but I think I fixed it on my box by reformatting since there were some other things I had to do with it as well.
[10:45] <MagicJohn> Can't really format anything here, I want to dual boot this machine with an existing windows installation :\
[10:46] <Ita_andy> anybody knows of a screen capture tool for linux ?
[10:46] <jmichaelx> this may seem totally silly to some people, but i would recommend burning a copy of the gparted live CD, and get your partitions the way you want them BEFORE installing your OS....  it has saved me some hair pulling
[10:46] <MagicJohn> It's labelled as /dev/sda-1 if that's any help (that also confuses me a bit)
[10:46] <MagicJohn> Even though it's meant to be free space.
[10:46] <jmichaelx> MagicJohn: download and burn the gparted live CD, and use that, then install kubuntu
[10:46] <MagicJohn> jmichaelx: this machine had an oem-installed XP ;)
[10:46] <osh_> MagicJohn: Just what I had. Have you tried to resize it or move it around some?
[10:46] <Dark_Oppressor> ive got twinview, but my games are in the middle of the monitor.  I made another metamode, but is there a way to switch to the new one?
[10:47] <pekay> !xgl
[10:47] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:47] <MagicJohn> jmichaelx: Booted from a CD before loading kubuntu and partitioned it a bit
[10:47] <stefano> #ubuntu-it
[10:47] <jmichaelx> MagicJohn:  that is ok, i still recommend it..... i have used it on 4 different machines with pre-installed xp, and they all dual boot, and i am so n00b it is scary
[10:47] <Ita_andy> ubotu was that a reply to my question ?
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about was that a reply to my question ? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:47] <Ita_andy> hi stefano
[10:47] <MagicJohn> Gonna try creating a partition in that space with fdisk and removing it
[10:48] <MagicJohn> If that doesn't work, I'll use your approach jmichaelx :)
[10:48] <Ita_andy> lol it was a bot :-)
[10:48] <jmichaelx> MagicJohn: cool.... it is nice to have the gparted live CD around anyways. it is as good as partition magic, in my opinion, if not better
[10:48] <aliasfred> Ita_andy: screen capture = screen shot or screencast ?
[10:49] <MagicJohn> jmichaelx: GParted can resize ntfs and all that?
[10:49] <jmichaelx> MagicJohn: yup
[10:49] <zipper> I'm using the guide on the wiki in order to install pureftpd. I installed it okay, the gui configuration seems to work, but i cannot login on any user. I can however login with my default user. What gives? I used useradd to add the users.
[10:50] <jmichaelx> MagicJohn: if you have broadband, it would only take you 5 minutes or so to download the gparted is
[10:50] <jmichaelx> iso*
[10:53] <MagicJohn> Maybe I'll just do the whole thing in fdisk
[10:58] <LeeJunFan> zipper: what did you set the shell to with useradd?
[10:59] <LeeJunFan> zipper: the shell for the user -s [shell]  in useradd has to be one of those found in /etc/shells for them to be able to login via ftp.
[11:00] <pekay> is there a tutorial for XGL for Kubuntu users?
[11:01] <eitch0000> does anyone know why HD-trailers are so choppy? I've tried with a nvidia and ATI card both don't seem to be able to handle the load... any special codecs neccassary?
[11:01] <MrBallZ> hey, I have some packages that are kept back from upgrading, how do i force upgrade from command line ?  dpkg -i -f ???
[11:02] <eitch0000> MrBallZ: apt-get dist-upgrade?
[11:02] <MrBallZ> still some packages are kept back ...
[11:02] <MrBallZ> I remember there's a way with dpkg ...
[11:02] <MagicJohn> man dpkg
[11:03] <eitch0000> with dpkg there are --force-xxx options check out which is the one you want
[11:04] <jmichaelx> eitch0000: i just tried to view an HD trailer on apple and it crashed firefox, lol. right now it seems like everything crashes firefox in linux
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> --force-xxx ? is that how i get the porn!
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> :P
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> jmichaelx,  whats the url? :P  let me try!
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> :)
[11:05] <jmichaelx> apple.com
[11:05] <eitch0000> jmichaelx: hehe.... well on my pc firefox actually never fails... ok if I keep watching the choppy trailer then I think it will crahs but otherwise I only have problems with HD-trailers
[11:05] <eitch0000> Dr_Willis: yeah... s'ppose
[11:06] <pekay> is there a tutorial for XGL for Kubuntu users?
[11:06] <jmichaelx> ok i am trying it again, so far no crash, but very choppy
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> Linux is growing! expanding! evoloving!
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> :P
[11:07] <eitch0000> jmichaelx: ahh well... I suppose there just isn't a decent codec out yet... at least not that I saw on the ubuntu wiki's... maybe gotta search some more...
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> every crash just makes it stronger!
[11:07] <eitch0000> Dr_Willis: yeah... as in what doesn't kill makes you stronger?
[11:07] <jmichaelx> eitch0000: there has ro be a way to fix this.... i have mepis on another PC and those trailers play fine in mepis. i have never been able to get them to work in kubuntu
[11:08] <jmichaelx> Dr_Willis: i agree
[11:08] <eitch0000> jmichaelx: well then... I have to find what the problem is =))
[11:08] <zipper_> I'm using the guide on the wiki in order to install pureftpd. I installed it okay, the gui configuration seems to work, but i cannot login on any user. I can however login with my default user. What gives? I used useradd to add the users.
[11:08] <kb5iav> hello all
[11:08] <eitch0000> jmichaelx: mepis? what is that?
[11:09] <kb5iav> Just got Ubuntu running
[11:09] <eitch0000> kb5iav: well done =))
[11:09] <soulrider_> hi everyone
[11:09] <kb5iav> it's running on an old clunker
[11:09] <jmichaelx> mepis is another linux OS..... very similar to kubuntu, and as of a few weeks ago even uses ubuntu packages.... but i think multimedia just works better in mepis
[11:10] <jmichaelx> kb5iav: i love linux on old clunkers
[11:10] <soulrider_> i gto a small question, i downlaodee eclipse as a tar.gz, where should i extract the files to so when i type "eclipse" in my console eclipse is launched?
[11:10] <eitch0000> well... I'm not switching... so I have to find out how to fix it...
[11:10] <kb5iav> I'm running it on an AMD k6-2 400mhz with 384MB RAM
[11:10] <jmichaelx> kb5iav: i have xubuntu running on a very similar box
[11:10] <soulrider_> how well odes it run ?
[11:11] <jmichaelx> it runs great, in my opinion
[11:11] <kb5iav> not too bad I guess, I've only had it for a little while
[11:11] <kb5iav> I haven't tried the sound yet, no speakers hooked up
[11:11] <kb5iav> The box also has a 20GB hard drive, a Creative Soundblaster Live! Value soundcard
[11:11] <soulrider> any ideas about my question? :P
[11:12] <fritsch> soulrider: extract it, wherever you want
[11:12] <fritsch> soulrider: make a symlink to /usr/loca/bin/
[11:12] <eitch0000> soulrider: why you download the source? need a newer version that you can get from apt-get?
[11:12] <jmichaelx> kb5iav:i just wish my old amd-k6 2 didn't have this crappy integrated SiS video card
[11:12] <kb5iav> An ATI RADEON VE 64mb Video card, and a Macronix 10/100 pci Ethernet card
[11:12] <soulrider> i got it from apt-get
[11:12] <soulrider> but it just wont run
[11:12] <soulrider> so screw it
[11:12] <soulrider> i got it compiled from their site
[11:13] <kb5iav> It took around 45 minutes to install Ubuntu on here
[11:13] <fritsch> soulrider: compiled? it` s a binary, or?
[11:13] <soulrider> binary yea.. i think :P
[11:13] <kb5iav> it's telling me there are 161 updates available, I wonder if I should downloade them.
[11:13] <fritsch> sl
[11:13] <fritsch> soulrider: just extract it
[11:13] <fritsch> soulrider: make a symlink to /usr/local/bin/
[11:13] <soulrider> i think i extarcted it to
[11:14] <jmichaelx> kb5iav: i bought an nvidia video card for my amd k6 2, but i cannot for the life of me get it to work..... there is no way to turn the integrated card off
[11:14] <fritsch> soulrider: lol
[11:14] <jmichaelx> eitch0000: you there?
[11:14] <fritsch> jmichaelx: jumper?
[11:14] <soulrider> i think i extracted it to /url/local/eclipse/ that isnt a bad idea right? :P
[11:14] <kb5iav> I tried downloading them last night, but the system hung on download and wouldn't reboot, wonder if I should have just let it finish the updating
[11:14] <fritsch> soulrider: mmmh, mmmh don`t mess with none distro files in /usr
[11:14] <kb5iav> the word is Nvidia cards work well with Ubuntu
[11:15] <fritsch> soulrider: can end like windows ;-) full, full and not working
[11:15] <jmichaelx> fritsch: maybe.... i would not know how to do it. getting the nvidia card to work would sure improve that PC
[11:15] <fritsch> jmichaelx: what mainboard is installed?
[11:15] <crazy_penguin> good night everyone! sleep well! :)
[11:15] <kb5iav> I don't like boards with too much integrated stuff on them
[11:15] <jmichaelx> fritsch: it is an old SiS amd board
[11:15] <kb5iav> my board is MSI
[11:15] <jmichaelx> integrated sucks
[11:15] <soulrider> ok
[11:16] <soulrider> y made a link there
[11:16] <fritsch> jmichaelx: could you tell me the correct name?
[11:16] <jmichaelx> MSI is what SiS is called now, i think
[11:16] <soulrider> but when i click on it to run eclipse i get some errors
[11:16] <fritsch> soulrider: so should work now
[11:16] <boolka> Is it possible to migrate from ubuntu to kubuntu?
[11:16] <soulrider> i think i know whats happening though
[11:16] <kb5iav> my Windows box has integrated ethernet and sound cards
[11:16] <jmichaelx> fritsch: i would not know the name... how would i find it?
[11:17] <kb5iav> LINUX is a different world
[11:17] <soulrider> fritsch: it wont work :(
[11:17] <fritsch> soulrider: you linked on the executable?
[11:17] <fritsch> soulrider: i think not :-)
[11:17] <soulrider> yea
[11:17] <soulrider> i did
[11:17] <kb5iav> OpenOffice word processor took a little while to load
[11:17] <fritsch> soulrider: close shell, open again
[11:17] <soulrider> i get this
[11:18] <fritsch> soulrider: and after that: which eclipse
[11:18] <soulrider> what i get is a window
[11:18] <soulrider> that has a few errors
[11:18] <fritsch> soulrider: ah okay, but the link is working
[11:18] <fritsch> soulrider: did you uninstall the debian package?
[11:18] <soulrider> yea
[11:18] <fritsch> soulrider: apt-get remove eclipse
[11:18] <soulrider> but eclipse is not:P
[11:18] <wildbat> anyone know how to fix "'fixme:ras:RasEnumConnectionsA RAS support is not implemented! Configure program to use LAN connection/winsock instead!"
[11:18] <soulrider> i didnt
[11:18] <soulrider> i just downloaded it compiled
[11:18] <jmichaelx> eitch0000: i have discovered that if you press stop just after a HD trailer started to play, and just let it download the whole thing and then click play, they work just fine..... for some reason playing them as they are streaming just won't work
[11:19] <soulrider> if i go to where i etracted it and click eclipse it works just fine
[11:19] <kb5iav> Ubuntu is the first Linux I've tried the would work on this system, Debian didn't work, nor did RedHat
[11:19] <fritsch> soulrider: never installed the debian package?
[11:19] <soulrider> nope
[11:19] <fritsch> soulrider: do: which eclipse
[11:19] <fritsch> soulrider: what does it say?
[11:19] <soulrider> just a sec
[11:19] <fritsch> soulrider: "which eclipse"
[11:19] <soulrider> 3.1.2
[11:19] <|lostbyte|> Which one is better...
[11:20] <|lostbyte|> Gefroce.. FX OR MX ?
[11:20] <|lostbyte|> geforce*
[11:20] <fritsch> |lostbyte|: linux open source support is bad on both
[11:20] <|lostbyte|> And any one having a MX here ?
[11:20] <|lostbyte|> fritsch, By bad you mean ?
[11:20] <fritsch> |lostbyte|: you can just use the binary drivers ... that sucks
[11:21] <eitch0000> jmichaelx: hmm... let me try that one out... =))
[11:21] <eitch0000> jmichaelx: thx for the tip
[11:21] <fritsch> |lostbyte|: FX5**** MX4*** you have to ask more precious
[11:21] <soulrider> fritsch: http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/4845/snapshot4qw8.png
[11:21] <|lostbyte|> fritsch, huh. Ok. bet fx5200 and mx4000
[11:21] <fritsch> soulrider: you installed the "sun java"?
[11:21] <|lostbyte|> Which one is better ?
[11:22] <fritsch> |lostbyte|: i thin the FX one
[11:22] <fritsch> |lostbyte|: but not for sure
[11:22] <soulrider> indeed
[11:22] <soulrider> i can run ti perfectly well from,t he directory its located in
[11:22] <fritsch> soulrider: do java --version
[11:22] <soulrider> but i cant use the link
[11:22] <|lostbyte|> Keeping in mind, i am running on xgl and would love to play games.
[11:22] <fritsch> soulrider: what does it give?
[11:22] <fritsch> soulrider: do a: which eclipse please
[11:22] <soulrider> it works if i run it from the dir
[11:22] <fritsch> soulrider: which eclipse please
[11:23] <soulrider> i get /usr/local/bin/eclipse
[11:23] <|lostbyte|> fritsch, ok, you said it has bad support. Which card has good support on linux ?
[11:23] <fritsch> soulrider: ls -l /usr/local/bin/eclipse
[11:23] <fritsch> |lostbyte|: Radeon 9200 :-)
[11:23] <soulrider> i get: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 2006-08-12 18:15 /usr/local/bin/eclipse -> /usr/share/eclipse/eclipse
[11:23] <|lostbyte|> fritsch, how much is that ?
[11:23] <fritsch> soulrider: you see
[11:23] <jmichaelx> fritsch: if i figure out the name of  that motherboard, ill come lookin for ya
[11:23] <soulrider> no
[11:24] <soulrider> i dont :P
[11:24] <|lostbyte|> Does everyone here agree with fritsch ?
[11:24] <fritsch> soulrider: you said you extracted it to an other place?
[11:24] <interfear> im starting to hate gnome and the new kde looks nice, is kubuntu 6.06.1 the newest version?
[11:24] <soulrider> :/
[11:24] <soulrider> listen
[11:24] <fritsch> |lostbyte|: 9200 is slow in 3d, but run with oss drivers
[11:24] <kb5iav> I have gnome on mine
[11:24] <soulrider> if i go to /usr/share/eclipse
[11:24] <soulrider> and click on eclipse
[11:24] <soulrider> it works
[11:24] <|lostbyte|> fritsch, ok
[11:24] <fritsch> soulrider: run from terminal: /usr/share/eclipse/eclipse
[11:25] <fritsch> soulrider: what happens then?
[11:25] <soulrider> opens perfectly well
[11:25] <fritsch> soulrider: ln -s /usr/share/eclipse/eclipse /usr/local/bin/eclipse
[11:26] <interfear> is the 6.06 on the ubuntu site the same as 6.06.1?
[11:26] <soulrider> i get a file exists error
[11:26] <interfear> they arent really advertising 6.06.1
[11:26] <soulrider> do i delete it ?
[11:26] <soulrider> and then run again ?
[11:26] <fritsch> soulrider: yes
[11:27] <kb5iav> I like this OS
[11:27] <soulrider> i had to use sudo
[11:27] <interfear> anyone here know which to use?
[11:27] <kb5iav> should I download those 161 updates?
[11:27] <fritsch> soulrider: yes, sorry
[11:27] <soulrider> no prob
[11:27] <jmichaelx> interfear: 6.06.1 was just released a few days ago. i am running it on this laptop
[11:27] <soulrider> ok
[11:27] <soulrider> now i type eclipse
[11:27] <soulrider> and i get the error :P
[11:27] <eitch0000> jmichaelx: with which player you watching the trailers?
[11:27] <jmichaelx> eitch0000: mplayer
[11:27] <fritsch> soulrider: go to /usr/local/bin
[11:27] <fritsch> soulrider: delete eclipse file
[11:28] <fritsch> soulrider: vim eclipse
[11:28] <fritsch> soulrider: #!/bin/sh
[11:28] <jmichaelx> interfear: i would say install 6.06.1
[11:28] <fritsch> soulrider: /usr/share/eclipse/eclipse &
[11:28] <fritsch> soulrider: :wq
[11:28] <fritsch> chmod +x eclipse
[11:28] <fritsch> soulrider: here you go
[11:29] <fritsch> soulrider: you know, what you did?
[11:29] <soulrider> i get an  error when i do #!/bin/sh
[11:29] <soulrider> sais " no string under cursor"
[11:29] <fritsch> soulrider: lol :-)
[11:29] <eitch0000> which plugin you using for firefox? totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin or totem-xine-firefox-plugin
[11:29] <fritsch> soulrider: ah you are inside vim?
[11:29] <fritsch> soulrider: then press "insert"
[11:30] <soulrider> ok
[11:30] <fritsch> soulrider: then type: #!/bin/sh
[11:30] <fritsch> soulrider: in the nex line: /usr/share/eclipse/eclipse &
[11:30] <fritsch> soulrider: then press escape, then :wq ENTER
[11:30] <fritsch> after that sudo chmod +x /usr/loca/bin/eclipse
[11:31] <fritsch> soulrider: the vim command also with sudo
[11:31] <soulrider> i get "cant open file for writing
[11:31] <soulrider> ah ok
[11:31] <fritsch> soulrider: sorry, q! the vim command also with sudo
[11:32] <fritsch> soulrider: all clear? you know what you are doing?
[11:32] <soulrider> not too sure
[11:32] <fritsch> soulrider: okay, we make a bash script at the moment, which executes the eclipse for us
[11:32] <jmichaelx> eitch0000: i think it is just the mozilla mplayer plugin
[11:33] <fritsch> soulrider: don`t forget the chmod command
[11:33] <eitch0000> jmichaelx: ahh ok... I'll try that one
[11:33] <fritsch> soulrider: chmod +x means, make the file executable
[11:33] <soulrider> ok
[11:33] <soulrider> im gonan type eclipse and see what happens
[11:33] <soulrider> yay! works
[11:33] <fritsch> soulrider: cool :-) what a hack
[11:33] <soulrider> :)
[11:34] <soulrider> can you explain what those 2 lines inside vim did ?
[11:34] <nixternal> here we go...who has Kubuntu + aiglx & compiz installed?    if you do, msg me, i have a quick question or two for you!!!
[11:34] <fritsch> soulrider: the first: #!/bin/sh <- header, ah it`s a sh file (bash is your sh), second line just starts eclipse
[11:35] <fritsch> soulrider: the & makes the process go to the background
[11:35] <soulrider> oh, easy :P
[11:35] <fritsch> soulrider: not as hard as grid fields ;-)
[11:36] <soulrider> its easy to udnerstand
[11:36] <jmichaelx> eitch0000: as a matter of fact, i do not have either of those totem plugins installed at all, they just give me problems. with mplayer, real player, flah and occasionally vlc, i can play almost anything..... but don't install the vlc plugin
[11:36] <soulrider> but allt he editing files makes it seem scary
[11:36] <jmichaelx> flash*
[11:36] <fritsch> soulrider: bash is a shell, but you can program in it, too
[11:36] <fritsch> soulrider: it`s like a windoze hyperlink with additional features
[11:37] <fritsch> soulrider: not bash, our start script
[11:37] <soulrider> ah
[11:39] <fritsch> soulrider: $me -> sleep()
[11:40] <awittke> i am a newbie
[11:40] <fritsch> awittke: everybody starts some time
[11:40] <fritsch> awittke: outch
[11:40] <soulrider> sleep well :)
[11:40] <fritsch> soulrider: thx
[11:41] <eitch0000> jmichaelx: well... I just deinstalled those plugins, and look here... it seems to work... only I don't like the idea that I can change the ration of the window... squeezy the picture... but it works so that's really cool
[11:42] <jmichaelx> eitch0000: yeah, i agree.... it isn't perfect, but it is workable
[11:43] <eitch0000> jmichaelx: thx anyway for the help =))
[11:45] <jmichaelx> eitch0000: yw
[11:46] <ooo> 
[11:50] <viper550> I ported Gilouche to KDE if anyone wants it
[11:51] <aliasfred> what is gilouche ?
[11:53] <aliasfred> i googled and it is a gnome art theme
[11:53] <viper550> http://rapidshare.de/files/29175340/Gilouche.kcsrc.html
[11:56] <soulrider> whats gilouche
[11:57] <viper550> Color Scheme, default theme on SUSE 10.1's Gnome Desktop
[11:57] <matt_____> yo
[11:58] <soulrider> screenshot?
[11:59] <rictoo_> !nvidia
[11:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:59] <viper550> soulrider: This is what it looks like on Gnome: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/original.php?release=700&slide=14
[12:00] <matt_____> how do i install dvd codecs?
[12:00] <wolfmanz> matt_____: use easy ubuntu
[12:00] <wolfmanz> !easyubuntu
[12:00] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[12:00] <soulrider> looks nice, ill download it
[12:01] <blazi> hello
[12:01] <blazi> i have a problems with my kubuntu
[12:01] <blazi> with apt-get
[12:01] <blazi> -.-
[12:01] <viper550> sudo apt-get install soandso
[12:02] <blazi> no
[12:02] <blazi> i know this command :)
[12:02] <rictoo_> 1nvidia
[12:02] <rictoo_> !nvidia
[12:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:02] <blazi> but i have a problem with libc6 library
[12:02] <viper550> I was just assuming that you were goofing up and omitting sudo like I used to do by accident sometimes
[12:03] <j__> help me :-P
[12:03] <blazi> i cannot upgrade libc6 library cause it need tzdata
[12:03] <viper550> sudo apt-get install tzdata?
[12:03] <blazi> its not going :/
[12:03] <j__> i cant play any mp3 in kubuntu. fresh install and update.  but the system sounds are working
[12:03] <blazi> look:
[12:04] <viper550> !mp3
[12:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:04] <Knightlust> J__: use automatix
[12:04] <Dr_Willis> ick. :P
[12:04] <Dr_Willis> Heh
[12:04] <Knightlust> it'll install all those that you need
[12:04] <Dr_Willis> !mp3
[12:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:04] <Dr_Willis> its like a 3 line cut/paste job. Much safer also.
[12:04] <viper550> Dr_Willis: I just did that a few seconds ago!
[12:04] <blazi> it tells me to use "apt-get -f install"
[12:04] <j__> where should i search for that. web or an updater?
[12:04] <Dr_Willis> viper550,  :P
[12:04] <blazi> but its not going too
[12:04] <blazi> :(
[12:05] <Dr_Willis> j__,  you are better off NOT using automatix. and learning how ti install the stuff yourself.
[12:05] <blazi> viper, any ideas?
[12:06] <viper550> Use Automatix or Easy Ubuntu, they can help
[12:06] <Dr_Willis> and they can trash things. :P     heh.. seen them do all of the above even!
[12:07] <soulrider> i downloaded that gnome thing, how can i install it ?
[12:07] <Agios> dpkg -i gnomething.deb ??
[12:08] <soulrider> no
[12:08] <Agios> well, be a little more specific then