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| msikma | Hi everybody | 05:39 |
| cbx33 | ping troy_s | 05:48 |
| cbx33 | hi msikma | 05:48 |
| === cbx33 just watched the interview with Mark on More4 | ||
| cbx33 | dang it, if I'd have done the startup sounds last release | 06:08 |
| cbx33 | they'd have been on the news :p | 06:08 |
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| msikma | I think my Photoshop just hung | 06:30 |
| cbx33 | :( - photoshop 6 doesn't run on dapper :( | 07:03 |
| cbx33 | it ran on breezy | 07:03 |
| troy_s | blah photoshop... how you doing cbx? | 07:06 |
| troy_s | pong cbx33 | 07:06 |
| cbx33 | hi troy_s was gonna ask if you heard the latest sound? | 07:07 |
| cbx33 | I also just posted to the ML to try to get some more feedback, and got one already :D | 07:07 |
| troy_s | Yes... right now the primary concern is developing a palette | 07:07 |
| troy_s | So that the CC can steer the direction | 07:08 |
| troy_s | and development can follow a formal procedure. | 07:08 |
| cbx33 | you still don't think the palette is big enough? | 07:09 |
| troy_s | I think it is getting closer. What is probably best is providing a diverse set of directions (without the polishing tweaks) | 07:10 |
| troy_s | Then canvas the CC for which ones work and don't. | 07:10 |
| cbx33 | I've stopped polishing now | 07:11 |
| cbx33 | ok | 07:11 |
| cbx33 | I see Jono has stpped out of the ring | 07:11 |
| troy_s | Yes. | 07:11 |
| troy_s | He is a Canonical employee now in a different area. | 07:11 |
| cbx33 | I know | 07:11 |
| cbx33 | :p | 07:11 |
| troy_s | One of my buddies who is working at EA took a listen to the sounds. | 07:12 |
| cbx33 | oh? | 07:12 |
| cbx33 | feedback? | 07:12 |
| troy_s | Yes, I'll send you some when they are complete. | 07:13 |
| cbx33 | please | 07:13 |
| troy_s | He has also scored films. | 07:13 |
| cbx33 | I would be very very interested in those | 07:13 |
| cbx33 | nice, something I would love to do one day | 07:13 |
| troy_s | Originally, he suggested that they felt a bit synthy -- which is something I tried to communicate as well. | 07:13 |
| troy_s | The percussion work is interesting. | 07:14 |
| cbx33 | good good | 07:14 |
| cbx33 | did you say he is creating some too? | 07:14 |
| troy_s | But again, all of the 'comments' are irrelevant -- the CC is all that matter. | 07:14 |
| troy_s | Yes. | 07:14 |
| cbx33 | true | 07:14 |
| troy_s | He will try to get some out. | 07:14 |
| cbx33 | heh | 07:15 |
| cbx33 | I'd better work harder then | 07:15 |
| troy_s | No... his will most certainly expand the palette primarily. | 07:15 |
| === cbx33 imagines expand and conquer :p | ||
| cbx33 | I wish I had more resources | 07:16 |
| troy_s | No. He has been doing it for quite a while, and has a fine arts education as well. | 07:16 |
| troy_s | He is very professional... | 07:16 |
| troy_s | That means that he is quite skilled at collaborative development as well. | 07:16 |
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| bersace | Hello | 07:17 |
| bersace | Who is peter savage ? | 07:17 |
| troy_s | Seems like bersace likes the percussion ones as well... :) | 07:17 |
| troy_s | cbx33 | 07:17 |
| bersace | cbx33: hello | 07:17 |
| troy_s | Our sound developer. | 07:17 |
| bersace | troy_s: thanks | 07:17 |
| troy_s | :) | 07:17 |
| cbx33 | bersace, me | 07:18 |
| bersace | Our *great* sound devloper ! | 07:18 |
| troy_s | Percussion is working well... I would say cent and beat are working well. | 07:18 |
| cbx33 | thanky bersace :D | 07:18 |
| bersace | cbx33: i think that we should modify a little the rhythm of the Organic one | 07:18 |
| bersace | in fact | 07:18 |
| cbx33 | yeh? | 07:19 |
| bersace | the feel of two speeded up sound is due to the "two short pong" | 07:19 |
| bersace | at the end of each cycle | 07:19 |
| bersace | that really hard to explain | 07:19 |
| cbx33 | yes | 07:19 |
| cbx33 | I know what you mean | 07:19 |
| bersace | especially in english when you are french | 07:19 |
| troy_s | Polishing is a ways off :) | 07:19 |
| troy_s | So don't obsess just yet. | 07:19 |
| troy_s | I would like to see a "Rick Ruben" version of Cent if you can pull it off... | 07:20 |
| troy_s | Strip it bare | 07:20 |
| bersace | if you joint the two last "pong" of each cycle, that will make it less speedy without adding seconds :) | 07:20 |
| bersace | troy_s: ok | 07:20 |
| cbx33 | bersace, i get it | 07:20 |
| troy_s | Let's just roll with the progress, expand the palette, and keep things simple. | 07:21 |
| cbx33 | instead of dum da dum daaa da da dum ---dum da dum daaa dum | 07:21 |
| troy_s | Further, we would need a wiki page of distinct ideas. | 07:21 |
| troy_s | (as in pair the set down into the distinct variations, and keep the sub variations off for quick scanning as the CC is pretty damn busy as one can expect. | 07:22 |
| bersace | ok | 07:22 |
| bersace | sorry for the polishing coments:) | 07:22 |
| bersace | i really think that "organic" is a good theme for edgy | 07:22 |
| cbx33 | troy_s, that was my intention with just having the blocks fro a sound style | 07:22 |
| cbx33 | bersace, I already have it on my dapper machine | 07:23 |
| cbx33 | :p | 07:23 |
| troy_s | bersace is one of our artwork wiki wizards | 07:23 |
| bersace | cbx33: lol | 07:23 |
| troy_s | pretty sure he could help you get the page into a scanning format | 07:23 |
| cbx33 | and Message Received is a great tone for a mobile SMS tone | 07:23 |
| bersace | yep | 07:23 |
| cbx33 | bersace, be my guest | 07:23 |
| bersace | troy_s: note that this case is exactly where i can help : i'm not an artist, not a content producer (except some artwork like http://openclipart.org/incoming/jaguar__tienne_bersac_03.svg or http://openclipart.org/incoming/loup__tienne_bersac_01.svg) | 07:25 |
| bersace | i can help polishing :) | 07:26 |
| cbx33 | heheh ;) | 07:26 |
| cbx33 | well even if it doesn't get picked | 07:26 |
| cbx33 | I can make a polished version just for you bersace :p | 07:26 |
| bersace | cbx33: and for you ! | 07:26 |
| bersace | :) | 07:26 |
| bersace | that would be nice | 07:26 |
| troy_s | Yep polishing will come | 07:26 |
| troy_s | but again, we have a strict set of 'clients' to hit | 07:27 |
| troy_s | and those clients are the ones who will decide things... without their support, polishing and steering is all in vain. | 07:27 |
| troy_s | So basically what I am proposing is to get the "Ponder/Brainstorm" idea pool on the table. | 07:27 |
| troy_s | And then I'll try to get the 'clients' to have a peep at the cumulative list. | 07:28 |
| bersace | troy_s: sorry, but who are "clients" ? | 07:28 |
| bersace | sabdfl ? | 07:28 |
| troy_s | The CC | 07:28 |
| troy_s | sabdfl included. | 07:28 |
| troy_s | As we must always remember, Ubuntu is not a democracy ;) | 07:28 |
| troy_s | Which is also why it has been so successful. | 07:28 |
| bersace | of course | 07:29 |
| troy_s | Slow and steady will win the race. | 07:29 |
| troy_s | And remember the golden rule of design: 80:20 | 07:29 |
| bersace | so clients want "slow and steady" ? | 07:29 |
| cbx33 | hehehe | 07:29 |
| troy_s | Well no, I would suggest that we are new and growing... so we just move at the pace that we can deliver. | 07:29 |
| cbx33 | bersace, nice play on words there :p | 07:30 |
| troy_s | 80% of most system's issues are caused by 20% of the factors. | 07:30 |
| troy_s | which means that with our limited resources, if we can identify the 20%, we can focus on those items. The rest is the point of diminishing returns. | 07:30 |
| bersace | yep and 80% of world wealth is own by 20% of people | 07:30 |
| bersace | :P | 07:30 |
| bersace | i like the rule of 80:20 :) | 07:31 |
| troy_s | bersace: exactly. In fact, there are many studies on it... | 07:31 |
| === bersace search steady in english-french dic | ||
| === bersace found | ||
| bersace | ok | 07:31 |
| troy_s | steady == constant == | 07:31 |
| bersace | ok | 07:32 |
| troy_s | uniform. | 07:32 |
| troy_s | etc. | 07:32 |
| bersace | i know | 07:32 |
| bersace | i read :) | 07:32 |
| bersace | that's exactly what i'm not ! | 07:32 |
| troy_s | 80:20 == Pareto's Principle. | 07:32 |
| bersace | but this is why i need such mentor like you troy_s :) | 07:32 |
| troy_s | Seminal work on 80:20 "Quality Control Handbook" Joseph M. Juran | 07:32 |
| troy_s | McGraw-Hill, 1951 | 07:33 |
| troy_s | blah | 07:33 |
| === troy_s is just another idiot who happens to think Ubuntu is very important. | ||
| troy_s | I do think the CC will be most imporessed that cbx33's work is dedicated on Ubuntu. | 07:35 |
| cbx33 | I sure hope so | 07:35 |
| troy_s | Well it is important from a philosophical level as well really... | 07:35 |
| troy_s | How can you propose a 'switch' to an operating system that you can't even really support 100% yourself? | 07:36 |
| troy_s | Ockham's Razor: Given a choice between functionality equivalent designs, the simplest design should be selected. ;) | 07:37 |
| troy_s | So keep those palette entries as simple as they need to be to communicate your sound cbx33 -- no simpler. | 07:39 |
| === cbx33 has just come up with another | ||
| cbx33 | :D | 07:40 |
| troy_s | Great. | 07:40 |
| bersace | troy_s: what do you mean by palette ? | 07:41 |
| bersace | the set of sounds ? | 07:41 |
| bersace | the set of variation of each sounds ? | 07:42 |
| troy_s | Yes... a 'range of colours' of sound so that the CC can say "X Y and Z are good directions -- continue that way" | 07:42 |
| troy_s | Which eliminates all the rest, and is good for refinement. | 07:42 |
| troy_s | Same technique as with traditional graphic art proposals. | 07:42 |
| bersace | troy_s: what is the big Comments table in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuSounds just after organic ? | 07:44 |
| cbx33 | bersace, that was my fault | 07:46 |
| cbx33 | they were all comments on that one there | 07:46 |
| cbx33 | theme | 07:46 |
| cbx33 | but for some reason it centered it | 07:46 |
| bersace | ok | 07:47 |
| bersace | cbx33: what is the "Note:" ? | 07:47 |
| cbx33 | on some I add a note about the sound | 07:47 |
| troy_s | Let bersace go in there and cull. | 07:48 |
| troy_s | He is very good at cleaning up wiki messes... | 07:48 |
| troy_s | also bersace, the 'Incoming' directory of the wiki is getting clogged a bit... perhaps you have some ideas on what should stay etc... | 07:48 |
| troy_s | and where to finalize localization. | 07:48 |
| bersace | cbx33: what did you comment ? | 07:55 |
| bersace | which variation ? | 07:55 |
| cbx33 | bersace, ? | 07:55 |
| cbx33 | which one? | 07:55 |
| bersace | i'm talking about the comments mess at the end of UbuntuSounds | 07:56 |
| bersace | and the strange "Notes:" line | 07:56 |
| bersace | on what do this refer to ? | 07:56 |
| bersace | all Organic ? | 07:56 |
| bersace | only a variant ? | 07:56 |
| cbx33 | all organic | 07:56 |
| bersace | "Notes:" too ? | 07:56 |
| cbx33 | yes | 07:58 |
| troy_s | Great to have bersace back in the fold. | 08:06 |
| troy_s | You can see why eh cbx33? ;) | 08:07 |
| bersace | troy_s: did you see http://gnome-scanning.blogspot.com/ ? | 08:07 |
| bersace | ok, i rework organic comments | 08:09 |
| bersace | the problem is that MoinMoin table doesn't support of normal tags embedding | 08:09 |
| bersace | a cell can only contain a one line. :( | 08:09 |
| troy_s | bersace: Wow. | 08:13 |
| cbx33 | bersace, yes | 08:13 |
| cbx33 | I hate that | 08:13 |
| troy_s | You can make canon scanners work with open source??? | 08:13 |
| troy_s | How do I make my bloody 5000F work? | 08:13 |
| troy_s | Just use headings | 08:14 |
| troy_s | Tables are too hard to adjust. | 08:14 |
| troy_s | Headings are far more useful, and the table of contents automagically update them. | 08:14 |
| bersace | yes | 08:16 |
| bersace | i'll do it | 08:16 |
| troy_s | bersace: Do you know of a way to get canon scanners up under os operating systems? | 08:17 |
| bersace | i'm just writing a replacement of xsane | 08:17 |
| bersace | so if xsane doesn't support your device, gnomescan won't | 08:17 |
| bersace | ask #sane | 08:18 |
| troy_s | ah | 08:18 |
| bersace | troy_s: canon is known to ship inexistent or bad driver for each OSes and particularily for Free OSs | 08:23 |
| bersace | but FOSS offer a quite good support of canon device, considering the pain of writin all that drivers. | 08:24 |
| cbx33 | bersace, you still editing the wiki? | 08:27 |
| cbx33 | I have a new sound to add | 08:27 |
| bersace | cbx33: wait a minute | 08:28 |
| cbx33 | kk | 08:28 |
| bersace | submitting | 08:30 |
| cbx33 | ok | 08:30 |
| bersace | done | 08:30 |
| cbx33 | ok | 08:31 |
| bersace | please follow the new guideline :) | 08:31 |
| bersace | stoooooop ! | 08:31 |
| bersace | cbx33: stooooopp !!! | 08:31 |
| bersace | let me make a last mod | 08:31 |
| cbx33 | ok | 08:31 |
| cbx33 | hehe | 08:32 |
| bersace | troy_s: i'm adding UbuntuSounds to CategoryArtwork | 08:33 |
| bersace | Since there is not ubuntu-sound team, i guess that's a good choice | 08:33 |
| cbx33 | bersace, there is an Ubunt Audio team | 08:33 |
| cbx33 | but it seems pretty dead | 08:33 |
| bersace | hmm. | 08:33 |
| cbx33 | bersace, you done editing now? | 08:33 |
| bersace | yep | 08:34 |
| troy_s | Good idea bersace. | 08:34 |
| troy_s | Only comments thus far are to pair down the existing work. | 08:34 |
| troy_s | Pick ONE of each sample | 08:34 |
| troy_s | and provide it. | 08:34 |
| bersace | ? | 08:34 |
| troy_s | And add a table of contents of course. | 08:35 |
| bersace | what does mean "pair down" ? | 08:35 |
| troy_s | Reduce | 08:35 |
| === bersace read dic one more time | ||
| troy_s | pick the 'best' candidate | 08:35 |
| troy_s | in each 'topic' | 08:35 |
| troy_s | If I manage to get the CC to look at it, | 08:35 |
| cbx33 | in that case | 08:36 |
| troy_s | I don't want them spending too long listening to samples that are very similar... | 08:36 |
| cbx33 | pick the last one | 08:36 |
| troy_s | And keep the comments in a list format, as that table limitation is painful. | 08:36 |
| cbx33 | want me to go through and cull the page? | 08:36 |
| bersace | troy_s: you mean, i have to highlight the most worked variation of each sound ? | 08:36 |
| troy_s | cbx33, that would be great... | 08:36 |
| cbx33 | yeh, troy_s to keep all comments | 08:36 |
| bersace | cbx33: have you finished ? | 08:36 |
| cbx33 | and incase people want to hear the old versions | 08:36 |
| cbx33 | bersace, yes | 08:36 |
| bersace | ok | 08:36 |
| troy_s | keep the others obviously, but let's keep the page streamlined for the CC. | 08:37 |
| cbx33 | couldn't we highlight the table row with the latest version? | 08:37 |
| troy_s | TOC, avoid the tables, and provide a spot for @SIG@ comments. | 08:37 |
| bersace | loooooooool ! | 08:37 |
| bersace | cbx33: very nice the Christmas theme ^^ | 08:37 |
| cbx33 | heheh | 08:37 |
| bersace | for the ubuntu-calendar-december-audio package :D | 08:38 |
| bersace | hey, that's a good idea :) | 08:38 |
| cbx33 | heheh...noooooooooo | 08:38 |
| bersace | that's huge work | 08:39 |
| cbx33 | indeed it is | 08:39 |
| bersace | but that's could be nice | 08:39 |
| cbx33 | althouht if we came up with a single them tune | 08:39 |
| bersace | if we have a big ubuntu-audio team | 08:39 |
| bersace | if we had | 08:39 |
| cbx33 | I could do one with different instruments each month | 08:39 |
| troy_s | We have what we have. | 08:39 |
| troy_s | Remember 80:20 and let's get to the 20 | 08:39 |
| cbx33 | yeh bersace, you're stuck with just little I at the moment | 08:39 |
| troy_s | All is good. Progress is better than no progress. | 08:40 |
| msikma | Hey cbx33 | 08:41 |
| msikma | I listened to some of those opening sounds | 08:41 |
| msikma | They are totally cool | 08:41 |
| cbx33 | yeh? | 08:41 |
| cbx33 | thanks msikma | 08:41 |
| msikma | Have you made any other interface sounds yet? | 08:41 |
| cbx33 | no | 08:41 |
| cbx33 | but I have some ideas | 08:41 |
| cbx33 | I'd like to wait till the theme is chosen before I do that | 08:41 |
| troy_s | 80:20 | 08:41 |
| troy_s | Exactly. | 08:41 |
| msikma | I also just uploaded another update of PolishHumanGTKTheme: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/PolishHumanGTKTheme/Incoming?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=michielgtk4.png | 08:41 |
| cbx33 | and possibly buy/get Canonical to buy/ me a new a sound card and rerecord them all | 08:41 |
| troy_s | Worry about the bigger picture, the smaller details are diminishing returns. | 08:42 |
| msikma | Do you have any old interface sounds? I'd like to hear them | 08:42 |
| cbx33 | msikma, no, they are in my head | 08:42 |
| cbx33 | unless you have a mind->wav converter? | 08:42 |
| msikma | Hmm, too bad. I would have liked to hear them. | 08:42 |
| cbx33 | heheh | 08:43 |
| cbx33 | you will when the theme gets chosen :p | 08:43 |
| cbx33 | msikma, could you provide a quick reply to the ML with your comments | 08:43 |
| msikma | Comments on your sounds? I put them in the wiki | 08:44 |
| cbx33 | ok cool | 08:44 |
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| troy_s | Greetings Rippon | 08:44 |
| Rippon | Hello | 08:45 |
| bersace | troy_s, cbx33: i added a "File:" field for each composition which point to the latest version | 08:45 |
| troy_s | Great. | 08:45 |
| cbx33 | nice bersace | 08:45 |
| troy_s | Rippon, I don't recognize your handle. How long have you been participating? | 08:46 |
| cbx33 | thanks for taking the time to help out on that bersace | 08:46 |
| bersace | hey, that's my job :) | 08:46 |
| cbx33 | heheh even so | 08:46 |
| cbx33 | :p | 08:46 |
| bersace | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntu-art-wiki-re-organisation | 08:46 |
| cbx33 | bersace, I'm hoping to do some wiki reorganisation of the LTSP documentation | 08:47 |
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| troy_s | Did the cull finish? | 08:49 |
| cbx33 | take a look | 08:49 |
| cbx33 | tell us what you think | 08:49 |
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| cbx33 | thanks msikma | 08:49 |
| troy_s | Did he move it to sub /Artwork? | 08:50 |
| msikma | I think that they're awesome, but that some of them are a little bit too long than I would expect them to be. | 08:50 |
| troy_s | or is it still at UbuntuSounds | 08:50 |
| cbx33 | msikma, yes, it's mainly for getting the basis right | 08:50 |
| cbx33 | then peole can say I like the fade out | 08:50 |
| cbx33 | or like the middle beat etc | 08:50 |
| msikma | E.g. some of them have an excellent intro, the first few seconds, but then the last few seconds consist of just long synth notes which I believe could fade out earlier. But the general feel is excellent. | 08:50 |
| msikma | Like, they're not supposed to be finished products already, but they sure feel like it. | 08:51 |
| troy_s | Polishing issues. | 08:51 |
| cbx33 | thanks msikma | 08:51 |
| cbx33 | I'll polish you in a minute troy_s :p | 08:51 |
| troy_s | That would be nice. | 08:52 |
| troy_s | Although that would take a lot of work. | 08:52 |
| cbx33 | heheh | 08:52 |
| troy_s | Great effort on the whole Pete. | 08:53 |
| cbx33 | heh | 08:53 |
| cbx33 | all I can do is try | 08:54 |
| troy_s | I'll put you into contact with Adam once he finished up getting his title into beta. | 08:54 |
| troy_s | I think his time is at zero for the next couple to few weeks. | 08:54 |
| cbx33 | troy_s, my only issue is we are getting very close to freeze | 08:54 |
| troy_s | Although he was looking for inspirational visuals, so if you have anything, forward them to me. | 08:54 |
| troy_s | cbx33 look at the breakdown. | 08:54 |
| troy_s | It is a ways off... | 08:54 |
| troy_s | which is also why focusing on two relatively simple but frequented items stands the potential for inclusion. | 08:55 |
| troy_s | And again, without the CC approval / direction, it is a complete vapour effort. | 08:55 |
| cbx33 | troy_s, I wonder, is it worth getting some direction at this point | 08:56 |
| cbx33 | they may have some great ideas | 08:56 |
| cbx33 | ie fschoep cam up with the idea for "ogranic" | 08:56 |
| cbx33 | check the mailing list | 08:56 |
| troy_s | cbx33, good idea. ;) | 08:56 |
| cbx33 | ogranic beat + choirs | 08:56 |
| cbx33 | think we could pencil it in at the next CC? | 08:56 |
| troy_s | But again, they are busy. | 08:56 |
| troy_s | Well considering that none of us are members, no. | 08:56 |
| troy_s | You might want to consider removing the titles and changing them strictly to numbers. | 08:58 |
| cbx33 | ok | 08:58 |
| troy_s | To avoid biasing based on completely unrelated issues. | 08:58 |
| cbx33 | true | 08:58 |
| troy_s | And I would strike the xmas one, keep focused. | 08:58 |
| cbx33 | it wasn't supposed to be christmas | 08:58 |
| cbx33 | my wife commented that they sounded like sleigh bells | 08:59 |
| cbx33 | I'll see if I can cut them | 08:59 |
| troy_s | LOL. | 08:59 |
| cbx33 | it may sound better | 08:59 |
| troy_s | Or change the name. | 08:59 |
| troy_s | :) | 08:59 |
| cbx33 | of course | 08:59 |
| troy_s | You can see my point already probably ;) | 08:59 |
| cbx33 | the name implies the thought of christmas | 08:59 |
| cbx33 | yes | 08:59 |
| troy_s | Exactly. | 08:59 |
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| troy_s | Sample00, blah blah. | 08:59 |
| cbx33 | troy_s, I'm sure I could get someone to get it onto the agenda for the CC meeting | 08:59 |
| cbx33 | brb | 09:00 |
| troy_s | Yes. Frank is in direct liason with the important folks... and thus far the progress in artwork has been substantial enough that it is probably a more direct route. | 09:00 |
| cbx33 | I'm sure Frank would like me to get some more direction | 09:01 |
| troy_s | Yes. It is in the works. | 09:02 |
| troy_s | I would say that the palette is at least a good starting point now. | 09:02 |
| troy_s | Which it wasn't before. | 09:02 |
| troy_s | Now if we refine the wiki page so that comments can be added via @SIG@ | 09:02 |
| troy_s | and put a comments section for each _single_ sampling | 09:03 |
| troy_s | we are probably on the way. | 09:03 |
| troy_s | Streamline by removing the tables, providing a comments subheading with point based @SIG@ comments. | 09:03 |
| troy_s | And the rest should fall into place. | 09:03 |
| cbx33 | ok, I'll get onto that in a min | 09:05 |
| cbx33 | troy_s, what did you mean about the commenta and @sig@? | 09:24 |
| cbx33 | what do we do with the comments on the variations? | 09:27 |
| cbx33 | cull them and just take comments on final versinos?? | 09:27 |
| troy_s | 1) Heading | 09:29 |
| troy_s | 2) Reference to attachment | 09:29 |
| troy_s | 3) comments sub heading | 09:29 |
| troy_s | 3.1) List based comments -- if you use @SIG@ comment follows here, the wiki automatically puts the date and time in where the @sig@ was | 09:30 |
| cbx33 | ah ok | 09:30 |
| troy_s | The tables are just too hard to mainting for comments etc... | 09:30 |
| cbx33 | yes | 09:31 |
| cbx33 | what about the variations | 09:31 |
| cbx33 | did youwant to chop them from the wiki? | 09:31 |
| cbx33 | and what happens to commetns on variations>? | 09:31 |
| troy_s | Use your judgement... personally, I found the basics to be more than sufficient. | 09:31 |
| troy_s | Because for the large part the variations are more or less the same to someone taking a casual listen. | 09:32 |
| troy_s | With me? | 09:32 |
| cbx33 | yes | 09:32 |
| troy_s | So for CC purposes, pick your fave. | 09:32 |
| cbx33 | ok I'll cull them | 09:32 |
| cbx33 | what about the comments we had on variations? | 09:32 |
| cbx33 | your comments | 09:32 |
| cbx33 | :p | 09:32 |
| troy_s | Pick your fave, and err on the side of simplicity to avoid adverse reactions to an effect or something. | 09:32 |
| cbx33 | yes | 09:32 |
| troy_s | Well keep those in a backup page. | 09:32 |
| cbx33 | I'll just make a backup of the page now | 09:32 |
| troy_s | Simplicity is key here... | 09:32 |
| cbx33 | and then edit it | 09:33 |
| troy_s | We want a clear page outlining all of your basic directions, with clear areas for comment. | 09:33 |
| cbx33 | yes | 09:33 |
| cbx33 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuSounds | 09:40 |
| troy_s | Terrific Pete! | 09:49 |
| troy_s | Now just add the @SIG@ to your comments. | 09:49 |
| troy_s | at the beginning. | 09:49 |
| troy_s | Just type "@SIG@" followed by your comment. | 09:49 |
| troy_s | When you save the page it will fill in the macro. | 09:49 |
| cbx33 | to my comments? | 09:54 |
| cbx33 | which ones? | 09:54 |
| cbx33 | they will all be set to todays date? | 09:55 |
| troy_s | Yes... which is good enough. | 09:58 |
| troy_s | That is a very clean layout. | 09:58 |
| cbx33 | :) | 09:58 |
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| bersace | :( | 10:01 |
| bersace | why remove names ? | 10:01 |
| cbx33 | troy_s said they were distractign | 10:02 |
| cbx33 | and I must say to an extent I agree | 10:02 |
| cbx33 | right I'm off out | 10:02 |
| cbx33 | feel free to spruce anyone | 10:02 |
| cbx33 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuSoundsFull still has all the old variations | 10:03 |
| troy_s | bersace, the names tend to stimulate preconceived notions about something. | 10:07 |
| troy_s | probably not desirable. | 10:07 |
| bersace | ok | 10:08 |
| troy_s | Kind of like naming one 'death' and one 'life' | 10:08 |
| troy_s | but in a much subtler form. | 10:08 |
| troy_s | Make sense? | 10:08 |
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| PingunZ | can someone tell me what the maximimum size for a splash screen is ? | 10:53 |
| PingunZ | --> the one after the login window | 10:54 |
| bersace | hmm. | 10:54 |
| bersace | don't know | 10:54 |
| PingunZ | is it like 1280*1024 ? | 10:54 |
| bersace | that should be described in gnome-session doc | 10:54 |
| troy_s | Maximum size depends on desktop resolution. | 11:24 |
| bersace | is possible to use svg ? | 11:53 |
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