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johnlittlehttp://www.ubuntuvideo.com/ubuntupolice5.png01:04
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ompauljohnlittle, not very much in the spirit of Ubuntu but .... very very funny02:04
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johnlittleYeah I know it's not PC :)02:05
johnlittlehttp://www.ubuntuvideo.com/ubuntumktg7.png02:05
johnlittlecleaned up a bit02:05
ompaulstill not human enough :-)02:07
ompaulvery very funny02:07
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ompaul"we have come to humanise your desktop"02:07
ompaulhmmm02:07
ompaulergo the protective clothing02:08
johnlittleHunanize..or else02:08
ompaulohh there is an copywriter here02:08
johnlittleHumanize02:08
ompaulno it is a "public service"02:08
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johnlittlelol02:09
ompaulso we heard about the desktop, we are here to help ... and then picture two is a lappy on a tropical beach?02:09
johnlittleif i could get bill gates cowering in the center,.,,02:09
ompaulor we heard about the software02:10
ompaulno - you can't dis microsoft it is not about them - it is not about steve jobs it is about the people and their access to great technology02:10
ompaul:-)02:10
ompaulit is brilliant, it is very 1984, grey and every sifi movie about a brave new tech future, then picture two is the consquence of the release02:12
ompauljohnlittle, ^^ what do you think of that?02:12
johnlittleYeah it is very 1984..actually you can find some riot gear cops use now thats pretty close to that.02:13
johnlittleYou could craft a pretty cool anti-drm campaign with images like this02:13
ompaullets not take it too far02:13
ompaulwell that is another battle, and I think the hazmat suits tell that story very well, here we are talking to the event known as Linux for Human Beings02:14
ompaul(and servers as one poster said)02:14
ompauldrm also has a fantastic catch phase, Defective By Desing02:16
ompaulDesign even02:16
johnlittleyep02:16
ompaulthis is like the apple 1984 advert02:17
ompaulall the grey computing02:17
ompaulthen there was apple02:17
ompaulnow we are taking the shine off the box design (but you have to hand it do Jobs he is - all style, like kier sosa02:18
johnlittlehow about some guy being hauled of in handcuffs...with a Microsoft Genuine Advantage logo :)02:18
ompaulkaizer sosa even02:18
johnlittleof=off02:18
ompaulno02:18
ompaulrule 1 of marketing never mention the opposition02:18
johnlittleI'm not talking about something I'd produce..just a joke02:18
ompaulI actually see a real opportunity there with that picture02:19
johnlittleYeah but belongs to Valve. Cant use if for marketing02:19
ompaulahh02:19
ompaulyou can't own ideas ;-)02:19
johnlittleYeah the concept could be used if someone could create similar artwork02:20
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ompaulwoops 6.5 hours left until I have to get up02:21
ompaulhmm02:21
johnlittlewow thats two nights worth of sleep for me02:21
johnlittleI'd go to bed if i were you02:21
ompaulI will have to read a stallman essay before I go :-)02:22
ompaulsave me from all the "w" words used in this channel ;-)02:22
ompaulcheers02:22
johnlittlenite02:23
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johnlittlerich is stuck in a revolving door03:45
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nixternalsorry for the floods earlier, as it seems my router was nailed...05:25
johnlittleyeah you made tons of friends..in many channels :)05:26
nixternali can tell05:27
nixternalthanks to nalioth, a Freenode staffer for at least sparing a couple of channels some pain05:27
johnlittleI just told people you were executing the worst DDOS attack ever05:28
nixternali was the blunt of an attack05:28
johnlittlelol05:29
johnlittlecheck this out: http://www.ubuntuvideo.com/ss/auguststyle.png05:29
nixternali was watching that on another system while i was being killed05:30
johnlittlethe ss?05:31
nixternaloh05:31
nixternali was showing of your 2 sites to family05:31
nixternalthat looks horrible05:31
nixternalwho bent your screen?05:31
johnlittlehehe05:31
nixternal;)05:31
nixternalyou are on to something with that05:32
johnlittleI really need to spend some time on my other site this weekend. there so much going on05:33
johnlittleim kind of burnt out05:33
nixternalya, that isn't hard to do with websites05:34
johnlittleYep..the video on is easy. I have posts stacked up until the 24th05:35
johnlittlevideo one05:35
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Burgundaviajohnlittle: very cool, but lose the winamp/xmms crap and make the eyes glow orange05:46
nixternali am seriously thinking of whiping my one Kubuntu setup and throwing Ubuntu on it, however I have edgy running for testing stuff, but I have an itchy trigger finger that wants an Ubuntu setup to play with05:48
nixternalespecially with the aix stuff05:48
johnlittleYeah the orange eyes would be cool...its going to have to wait tho05:49
johnlittleTired of that windows 3.1 DE?05:50
adamant1988uhm?05:50
johnlittle;)05:51
nixternalheh05:51
nixternalyou know what, in a way i am05:51
nixternalhowever, gnome nor kde look much different from say 5 years ago05:51
johnlittlewalk into the light rich05:51
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nixternaljoey!!!05:51
nixternalwhats up bud05:51
RinchenHiya Nix05:54
RinchenJust recoupering from the verbally abusive week :-)05:54
nixternal gotta love those ;)05:54
RinchenYeah, I have a winner for a client these days.05:54
nixternali get those every now and then05:55
RinchenI've been so tied up with work and then staffing Defcon that I haven't had much of a chance to do much around here lately.05:56
RinchenI did buy my 2.5 year old his first kite though tonight. :-)05:56
nixternalcool ;)05:57
nixternali remember that age ;)05:57
nixternal7.5 years ago05:57
nixternalman time flies05:57
RinchenYeah. Related topic: I need to hit up a few more areas with the loco and then ramp up for a joint software freedom day and Eft release party.  There is talk on our list of doing a small debian party as well although I don't think it will be well attended.06:01
nixternalfreedom day is right around the corner06:01
nixternali am hoping my cd's are here for that06:01
nixternali just offloaded 100 today for an install fest put on by....06:01
nixternalMicrosoft of  all people06:02
nixternalbut i got the guy to distribute Ubuntu & Kubuntu CDs instead of "Old" Win98 and ME CDs that microsoft gives..this install fest is to create systems for "not-for-profit" orgs that do stuff like help older people find jobs and what not06:03
nixternalit is good, microsoft shipping him 500 computers with win98 and winme discs, and he is gonna put ubuntu and kubuntu on them, and then he is going to hand them out for me06:03
Rinchenwow, score06:04
Rinchengood job06:04
Rinchenmakes me feel inadequate06:04
Rinchenoops...being paged by wifey to go watch stargate06:04
Rinchencheers06:04
nixternalheh, i ran into him looking at the Hacking Ubuntu book at the bookstore06:04
nixternalok06:04
nixternalhehe06:04
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Madpilotnixternal, what had you been inflicting on yourself?06:54
nixternalKubuntu ;)06:55
nixternali always will though06:55
nixternali just wanted to play around with Gnome a little bit06:55
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nixternalheh07:00
nixternalplease don't as i will never hear the end of it07:00
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adamant1988muahahahah07:03
adamant1988nixternal played with a gnome07:03
adamant1988ok, it wasn't that funny, I'm going to sleep now07:03
nixternaljeesh, so much for a secret07:03
johnlittleI predict you won't go back to KDE07:08
nixternalSysinfo for 'MasTequila': Linux 2.6.15-26-k7 running KDE 3.5.4, CPU: AMD Athlon XP 2000+ at 1667 MHz (3338 bogomips), HD: 47/110GB, RAM: 1037/1264MB, 114 proc's, 2.4d up07:08
nixternalim not leaving ;)07:08
johnlittlewha?07:08
nixternalplus that machine is a dual boot, and kubuntu is the main on it ;)07:08
johnlittlecold feet?07:08
nixternalim a qt kinda guy07:09
johnlittle:|07:09
johnlittleI'll drop by and setup  Gnome for you..kind of a Stright Eye for the QT Guy kid of thing07:10
johnlittlekid=kind07:10
nixternalhaha really funny07:10
johnlittledamn i can't type07:10
Madpilot"Straight Eye for the QT Guy" - he07:10
Madpilotheh, even - can't type either ;)07:11
nixternallol07:11
nixternalor should have i done,    lo07:11
johnlittleI need some quality time with Mavis Bacon07:11
nixternalmight as well match07:11
nixternalmavis can't keep up with me07:11
nixternali had her max out07:11
nixternalshe won't count anything over 150wpm07:11
johnlittleI wonder what she's doin now07:12
nixternali remember i had to take a typing course in 1996 in college while i was in the navy..and to ace the course you had to hit 60wpm, my first day average was 130+07:12
johnlittle60wpm...preschoolers can do that now07:13
nixternaland the teacher still made me take the stupid class07:13
nixternalthat was in 199607:13
nixternalwhen vcr's where the item07:13
johnlittleah the olden days ;)07:13
nixternal10 years ago07:13
nixternaldon't say olden, im starting to feel "my age"07:13
johnlittleI think I'm older than you..07:14
nixternalprobably are you old fart07:14
johnlittleouch..a guy at t-mobile said that to me..i was looking at a sidekick and he said "Guys your age dont buy those"07:14
nixternalrofl07:15
nixternali went and bought 4 boxes of romeo y juliet cigars today, and got carded07:15
johnlittleLuckily i was able to shoot back "Most guys my age aren't getting 200 txt messages a day from 22 year old coeds"07:16
johnlittlecarded?07:16
nixternalim like, how many people under 18 are smoking cigars?  ok if they are, how many of them are dropping $2k on cigars?07:16
nixternali got rid of my sidekick, blackberry, and cell phone07:16
johnlittleAll this volunteer work has been good to you07:17
nixternali do not give out my phone number, except to family, otherwise they can email me07:17
nixternalactually, the first box was a gift, so i actually dropped 150007:17
nixternalnothing like fine cigars07:17
johnlittleI'm in the cancer biz so....well enjoy those cigars ;)07:18
nixternalhaha07:18
nixternalat least they aren't clinton cohibas07:18
johnlittleOh the jokes...07:18
nixternalheh07:18
nixternalcohibas aren't made anymore..no more cuban cigars07:19
nixternalthat stinks07:19
nixternaldominican and us cigars are now #107:19
johnlittleI used to smoke cigars now and then. Spending time in a head and neck cancer clinic kind of eliminated my craving07:19
nixternalrofl, i bet it would...i have always enjoyed a good cigar, i quit smoking more then 2 years ago..so a good cigar every now and then won't kill me07:20
johnlittleProbably not. I just met too many folks with half a face.07:21
johnlittleI know I could smoke one now and then and it'd probably be ok but I just can't kick those images when I get near a cigar lol07:22
Madpilotnixternal, there's still Cuban cigars made - all the tourist shops here sell them to American tourists ;)07:22
nixternaland when they go bye bye, that will be it, for cohiba07:23
nixternalsince castro quit smoking, he closed down his entities, one being cohiba07:23
johnlittleis there more than one sysinfo plugin for xchat?07:49
Burgundavianixternal: according to wikipedia they are still made, as for 200608:06
nixternalya, they still have productions, but very limited...very very limited, until they run out of their stock type limited...i get cigar afficianado magazine and that is all they have been about for the past year now08:09
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nixternalmarket this http://buntudot.org/people/~nixternal/images/10:01
nixternalsure looks purdy10:01
mindspingood mornig :-)10:02
Kamping_Kaisernixternal, what is it/they10:03
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johnlittleare u playing with gnomes?10:04
nixternalhehe10:04
nixternalglx-compiz10:04
nixternalset everything to 25% opaque in the one, and then the scaling/pinning to desktop10:05
johnlittlethinking about running that fulltime10:05
nixternalno10:06
nixternali want to get it setup on my kubuntu box for fun10:06
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mindspinnixternal: will it work, afaik its kinda "tricky"10:07
nixternalit works10:08
johnlittleim installing kde :)10:10
nixternalbest thing i have heard you say yet ;)10:12
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johnlittleim pretty sure that im just waisting an hour of my life but why not10:14
nixternalboo10:15
johnlittlewe'll see10:15
johnlittleis kde default on any big distros these days?10:16
johnlittlebrb10:16
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johnlittleit still feels all clobbered together to me10:22
nixternalyou say that now10:22
Madpilotjohnlittle, it's KDE, you've got to spell it "klobbered"10:24
johnlittleahaha10:24
nixternalhardy har har10:24
johnlittle1993 drop shadows on menu titles...um yeah10:24
johnlittleok..I tried..but I gotta switch back now :)10:25
johnlittleKDE could be really good if the GNOME guys could work on it10:26
johnlittle;)10:26
Madpilotthankfully, GNOME already exists :)10:26
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johnlittlewow10:29
johnlittlebetter :)10:29
nixternalbullpoop10:29
johnlittleIt's odd. Gnome hasn't changed much in 5 years but it's so much more polished and consistent..KDE still feels like a system playing catchup to a decade old version of windows to me10:30
nixternalthats what you get when you play with default10:32
nixternalthe levels of theming in kde far exceed anything gnome could ever imagine ;)10:32
nixternalfor instance..compare gnome-look to kde-look...ummm you get the point there10:33
johnlittleyeah but how much lipstick can you put on a pig?10:33
johnlittlei might have to try xfce now10:34
nixternalkde 3.5.3 and 3.5.4 are far from pigs10:35
nixternalinstall edgy knot1, update all the way...and boot...gnome can't touch it from power on to desktop10:35
nixternalreboot == 31 seconds from desktop to desktop10:35
MadpilotXFCE is kind of cool, I played with Xubuntu LiveCDs a lot during Dapper testing10:35
nixternalya it is10:35
johnlittleI've always liked it10:36
nixternali have it installed on my lappy10:36
nixternalhowever, it isn't much faster if you ask me10:36
nixternalbut then again, that could be my lappy10:36
johnlittleI think it's getting bloated (comparitively)10:37
nixternalfluxbuntu might be cool if they get it out soon10:39
johnlittleyeah i think so10:39
johnlittlenubuntu looks like fun..i'd get in trouble but..10:40
MadpilotFlubuntu? Bird Flubuntu?10:40
johnlittlelol10:40
nixternalhaha10:40
Madpilotneed sleep - night, all10:41
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johnlittleme like10:45
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jendaHello Marketeers.12:27
Kamping_Kaiserhey jenda12:28
jenda;)12:29
Kamping_Kaiser:)12:29
elkbuntuhello jenda :)12:43
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johnlittlejust did a fresh install with the new release...slick'08:30
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nixternali just did a fresh install of Kubuntu Edgy Eft Knot1 Pre and just up'd everything..talk about nice.. ;)09:17
nixternalgot rid of that ubuntu/xgl install, however that is some sweet eye-candy09:17
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johnlittle:-/12:01

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