[01:04] <johnlittle> http://www.ubuntuvideo.com/ubuntupolice5.png
[02:04] <ompaul> johnlittle, not very much in the spirit of Ubuntu but .... very very funny
[02:05] <johnlittle> Yeah I know it's not PC :)
[02:05] <johnlittle> http://www.ubuntuvideo.com/ubuntumktg7.png
[02:05] <johnlittle> cleaned up a bit
[02:07] <ompaul> still not human enough :-)
[02:07] <ompaul> very very funny
[02:07] <ompaul> "we have come to humanise your desktop"
[02:07] <ompaul> hmmm
[02:08] <ompaul> ergo the protective clothing
[02:08] <johnlittle> Hunanize..or else
[02:08] <ompaul> ohh there is an copywriter here
[02:08] <johnlittle> Humanize
[02:08] <ompaul> no it is a "public service"
[02:09] <johnlittle> lol
[02:09] <ompaul> so we heard about the desktop, we are here to help ... and then picture two is a lappy on a tropical beach?
[02:09] <johnlittle> if i could get bill gates cowering in the center,.,,
[02:10] <ompaul> or we heard about the software
[02:10] <ompaul> no - you can't dis microsoft it is not about them - it is not about steve jobs it is about the people and their access to great technology
[02:10] <ompaul> :-)
[02:12] <ompaul> it is brilliant, it is very 1984, grey and every sifi movie about a brave new tech future, then picture two is the consquence of the release
[02:12] <ompaul> johnlittle, ^^ what do you think of that?
[02:13] <johnlittle> Yeah it is very 1984..actually you can find some riot gear cops use now thats pretty close to that.
[02:13] <johnlittle> You could craft a pretty cool anti-drm campaign with images like this
[02:13] <ompaul> lets not take it too far
[02:14] <ompaul> well that is another battle, and I think the hazmat suits tell that story very well, here we are talking to the event known as Linux for Human Beings
[02:14] <ompaul> (and servers as one poster said)
[02:16] <ompaul> drm also has a fantastic catch phase, Defective By Desing
[02:16] <ompaul> Design even
[02:16] <johnlittle> yep
[02:17] <ompaul> this is like the apple 1984 advert
[02:17] <ompaul> all the grey computing
[02:17] <ompaul> then there was apple
[02:18] <ompaul> now we are taking the shine off the box design (but you have to hand it do Jobs he is - all style, like kier sosa
[02:18] <johnlittle> how about some guy being hauled of in handcuffs...with a Microsoft Genuine Advantage logo :)
[02:18] <ompaul> kaizer sosa even
[02:18] <johnlittle> of=off
[02:18] <ompaul> no
[02:18] <ompaul> rule 1 of marketing never mention the opposition
[02:18] <johnlittle> I'm not talking about something I'd produce..just a joke
[02:19] <ompaul> I actually see a real opportunity there with that picture
[02:19] <johnlittle> Yeah but belongs to Valve. Cant use if for marketing
[02:19] <ompaul> ahh
[02:19] <ompaul> you can't own ideas ;-)
[02:20] <johnlittle> Yeah the concept could be used if someone could create similar artwork
[02:21] <ompaul> woops 6.5 hours left until I have to get up
[02:21] <ompaul> hmm
[02:21] <johnlittle> wow thats two nights worth of sleep for me
[02:21] <johnlittle> I'd go to bed if i were you
[02:22] <ompaul> I will have to read a stallman essay before I go :-)
[02:22] <ompaul> save me from all the "w" words used in this channel ;-)
[02:22] <ompaul> cheers
[02:23] <johnlittle> nite
[03:45] <johnlittle> rich is stuck in a revolving door
[05:25] <nixternal> sorry for the floods earlier, as it seems my router was nailed...
[05:26] <johnlittle> yeah you made tons of friends..in many channels :)
[05:27] <nixternal> i can tell
[05:27] <nixternal> thanks to nalioth, a Freenode staffer for at least sparing a couple of channels some pain
[05:28] <johnlittle> I just told people you were executing the worst DDOS attack ever
[05:28] <nixternal> i was the blunt of an attack
[05:29] <johnlittle> lol
[05:29] <johnlittle> check this out: http://www.ubuntuvideo.com/ss/auguststyle.png
[05:30] <nixternal> i was watching that on another system while i was being killed
[05:31] <johnlittle> the ss?
[05:31] <nixternal> oh
[05:31] <nixternal> i was showing of your 2 sites to family
[05:31] <nixternal> that looks horrible
[05:31] <nixternal> who bent your screen?
[05:31] <johnlittle> hehe
[05:31] <nixternal> ;)
[05:32] <nixternal> you are on to something with that
[05:33] <johnlittle> I really need to spend some time on my other site this weekend. there so much going on
[05:33] <johnlittle> im kind of burnt out
[05:34] <nixternal> ya, that isn't hard to do with websites
[05:35] <johnlittle> Yep..the video on is easy. I have posts stacked up until the 24th
[05:35] <johnlittle> video one
[05:46] <Burgundavia> johnlittle: very cool, but lose the winamp/xmms crap and make the eyes glow orange
[05:48] <nixternal> i am seriously thinking of whiping my one Kubuntu setup and throwing Ubuntu on it, however I have edgy running for testing stuff, but I have an itchy trigger finger that wants an Ubuntu setup to play with
[05:48] <nixternal> especially with the aix stuff
[05:49] <johnlittle> Yeah the orange eyes would be cool...its going to have to wait tho
[05:50] <johnlittle> Tired of that windows 3.1 DE?
[05:50] <adamant1988> uhm?
[05:51] <johnlittle> ;)
[05:51] <nixternal> heh
[05:51] <nixternal> you know what, in a way i am
[05:51] <nixternal> however, gnome nor kde look much different from say 5 years ago
[05:51] <johnlittle> walk into the light rich
[05:51] <nixternal> joey!!!
[05:51] <nixternal> whats up bud
[05:54] <Rinchen> Hiya Nix
[05:54] <Rinchen> Just recoupering from the verbally abusive week :-)
[05:54] <nixternal>  gotta love those ;)
[05:54] <Rinchen> Yeah, I have a winner for a client these days.
[05:55] <nixternal> i get those every now and then
[05:56] <Rinchen> I've been so tied up with work and then staffing Defcon that I haven't had much of a chance to do much around here lately.
[05:56] <Rinchen> I did buy my 2.5 year old his first kite though tonight. :-)
[05:57] <nixternal> cool ;)
[05:57] <nixternal> i remember that age ;)
[05:57] <nixternal> 7.5 years ago
[05:57] <nixternal> man time flies
[06:01] <Rinchen> Yeah. Related topic: I need to hit up a few more areas with the loco and then ramp up for a joint software freedom day and Eft release party.  There is talk on our list of doing a small debian party as well although I don't think it will be well attended.
[06:01] <nixternal> freedom day is right around the corner
[06:01] <nixternal> i am hoping my cd's are here for that
[06:01] <nixternal> i just offloaded 100 today for an install fest put on by....
[06:02] <nixternal> Microsoft of  all people
[06:03] <nixternal> but i got the guy to distribute Ubuntu & Kubuntu CDs instead of "Old" Win98 and ME CDs that microsoft gives..this install fest is to create systems for "not-for-profit" orgs that do stuff like help older people find jobs and what not
[06:03] <nixternal> it is good, microsoft shipping him 500 computers with win98 and winme discs, and he is gonna put ubuntu and kubuntu on them, and then he is going to hand them out for me
[06:04] <Rinchen> wow, score
[06:04] <Rinchen> good job
[06:04] <Rinchen> makes me feel inadequate
[06:04] <Rinchen> oops...being paged by wifey to go watch stargate
[06:04] <Rinchen> cheers
[06:04] <nixternal> heh, i ran into him looking at the Hacking Ubuntu book at the bookstore
[06:04] <nixternal> ok
[06:04] <nixternal> hehe
[06:54] <Madpilot> nixternal, what had you been inflicting on yourself?
[06:55] <nixternal> Kubuntu ;)
[06:55] <nixternal> i always will though
[06:55] <nixternal> i just wanted to play around with Gnome a little bit
[07:00] <nixternal> heh
[07:00] <nixternal> please don't as i will never hear the end of it
[07:03] <adamant1988> muahahahah
[07:03] <adamant1988> nixternal played with a gnome
[07:03] <adamant1988> ok, it wasn't that funny, I'm going to sleep now
[07:03] <nixternal> jeesh, so much for a secret
[07:08] <johnlittle> I predict you won't go back to KDE
[07:08] <nixternal> Sysinfo for 'MasTequila': Linux 2.6.15-26-k7 running KDE 3.5.4, CPU: AMD Athlon XP 2000+ at 1667 MHz (3338 bogomips), HD: 47/110GB, RAM: 1037/1264MB, 114 proc's, 2.4d up
[07:08] <nixternal> im not leaving ;)
[07:08] <johnlittle> wha?
[07:08] <nixternal> plus that machine is a dual boot, and kubuntu is the main on it ;)
[07:08] <johnlittle> cold feet?
[07:09] <nixternal> im a qt kinda guy
[07:09] <johnlittle> :|
[07:10] <johnlittle> I'll drop by and setup  Gnome for you..kind of a Stright Eye for the QT Guy kid of thing
[07:10] <johnlittle> kid=kind
[07:10] <nixternal> haha really funny
[07:10] <johnlittle> damn i can't type
[07:10] <Madpilot> "Straight Eye for the QT Guy" - he
[07:11] <Madpilot> heh, even - can't type either ;)
[07:11] <nixternal> lol
[07:11] <nixternal> or should have i done,    lo
[07:11] <johnlittle> I need some quality time with Mavis Bacon
[07:11] <nixternal> might as well match
[07:11] <nixternal> mavis can't keep up with me
[07:11] <nixternal> i had her max out
[07:11] <nixternal> she won't count anything over 150wpm
[07:12] <johnlittle> I wonder what she's doin now
[07:12] <nixternal> i remember i had to take a typing course in 1996 in college while i was in the navy..and to ace the course you had to hit 60wpm, my first day average was 130+
[07:13] <johnlittle> 60wpm...preschoolers can do that now
[07:13] <nixternal> and the teacher still made me take the stupid class
[07:13] <nixternal> that was in 1996
[07:13] <nixternal> when vcr's where the item
[07:13] <johnlittle> ah the olden days ;)
[07:13] <nixternal> 10 years ago
[07:13] <nixternal> don't say olden, im starting to feel "my age"
[07:14] <johnlittle> I think I'm older than you..
[07:14] <nixternal> probably are you old fart
[07:14] <johnlittle> ouch..a guy at t-mobile said that to me..i was looking at a sidekick and he said "Guys your age dont buy those"
[07:15] <nixternal> rofl
[07:15] <nixternal> i went and bought 4 boxes of romeo y juliet cigars today, and got carded
[07:16] <johnlittle> Luckily i was able to shoot back "Most guys my age aren't getting 200 txt messages a day from 22 year old coeds"
[07:16] <johnlittle> carded?
[07:16] <nixternal> im like, how many people under 18 are smoking cigars?  ok if they are, how many of them are dropping $2k on cigars?
[07:16] <nixternal> i got rid of my sidekick, blackberry, and cell phone
[07:17] <johnlittle> All this volunteer work has been good to you
[07:17] <nixternal> i do not give out my phone number, except to family, otherwise they can email me
[07:17] <nixternal> actually, the first box was a gift, so i actually dropped 1500
[07:17] <nixternal> nothing like fine cigars
[07:18] <johnlittle> I'm in the cancer biz so....well enjoy those cigars ;)
[07:18] <nixternal> haha
[07:18] <nixternal> at least they aren't clinton cohibas
[07:18] <johnlittle> Oh the jokes...
[07:18] <nixternal> heh
[07:19] <nixternal> cohibas aren't made anymore..no more cuban cigars
[07:19] <nixternal> that stinks
[07:19] <nixternal> dominican and us cigars are now #1
[07:19] <johnlittle> I used to smoke cigars now and then. Spending time in a head and neck cancer clinic kind of eliminated my craving
[07:20] <nixternal> rofl, i bet it would...i have always enjoyed a good cigar, i quit smoking more then 2 years ago..so a good cigar every now and then won't kill me
[07:21] <johnlittle> Probably not. I just met too many folks with half a face.
[07:22] <johnlittle> I know I could smoke one now and then and it'd probably be ok but I just can't kick those images when I get near a cigar lol
[07:22] <Madpilot> nixternal, there's still Cuban cigars made - all the tourist shops here sell them to American tourists ;)
[07:23] <nixternal> and when they go bye bye, that will be it, for cohiba
[07:23] <nixternal> since castro quit smoking, he closed down his entities, one being cohiba
[07:49] <johnlittle> is there more than one sysinfo plugin for xchat?
[08:06] <Burgundavia> nixternal: according to wikipedia they are still made, as for 2006
[08:09] <nixternal> ya, they still have productions, but very limited...very very limited, until they run out of their stock type limited...i get cigar afficianado magazine and that is all they have been about for the past year now
[10:01] <nixternal> market this http://buntudot.org/people/~nixternal/images/
[10:01] <nixternal> sure looks purdy
[10:02] <mindspin> good mornig :-)
[10:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> nixternal, what is it/they
[10:04] <johnlittle> are u playing with gnomes?
[10:04] <nixternal> hehe
[10:04] <nixternal> glx-compiz
[10:05] <nixternal> set everything to 25% opaque in the one, and then the scaling/pinning to desktop
[10:05] <johnlittle> thinking about running that fulltime
[10:06] <nixternal> no
[10:06] <nixternal> i want to get it setup on my kubuntu box for fun
[10:07] <mindspin> nixternal: will it work, afaik its kinda "tricky"
[10:08] <nixternal> it works
[10:10] <johnlittle> im installing kde :)
[10:12] <nixternal> best thing i have heard you say yet ;)
[10:14] <johnlittle> im pretty sure that im just waisting an hour of my life but why not
[10:15] <nixternal> boo
[10:15] <johnlittle> we'll see
[10:16] <johnlittle> is kde default on any big distros these days?
[10:16] <johnlittle> brb
[10:22] <johnlittle> it still feels all clobbered together to me
[10:22] <nixternal> you say that now
[10:24] <Madpilot> johnlittle, it's KDE, you've got to spell it "klobbered"
[10:24] <johnlittle> ahaha
[10:24] <nixternal> hardy har har
[10:24] <johnlittle> 1993 drop shadows on menu titles...um yeah
[10:25] <johnlittle> ok..I tried..but I gotta switch back now :)
[10:26] <johnlittle> KDE could be really good if the GNOME guys could work on it
[10:26] <johnlittle> ;)
[10:26] <Madpilot> thankfully, GNOME already exists :)
[10:29] <johnlittle> wow
[10:29] <johnlittle> better :)
[10:29] <nixternal> bullpoop
[10:30] <johnlittle> It's odd. Gnome hasn't changed much in 5 years but it's so much more polished and consistent..KDE still feels like a system playing catchup to a decade old version of windows to me
[10:32] <nixternal> thats what you get when you play with default
[10:32] <nixternal> the levels of theming in kde far exceed anything gnome could ever imagine ;)
[10:33] <nixternal> for instance..compare gnome-look to kde-look...ummm you get the point there
[10:33] <johnlittle> yeah but how much lipstick can you put on a pig?
[10:34] <johnlittle> i might have to try xfce now
[10:35] <nixternal> kde 3.5.3 and 3.5.4 are far from pigs
[10:35] <nixternal> install edgy knot1, update all the way...and boot...gnome can't touch it from power on to desktop
[10:35] <nixternal> reboot == 31 seconds from desktop to desktop
[10:35] <Madpilot> XFCE is kind of cool, I played with Xubuntu LiveCDs a lot during Dapper testing
[10:35] <nixternal> ya it is
[10:36] <johnlittle> I've always liked it
[10:36] <nixternal> i have it installed on my lappy
[10:36] <nixternal> however, it isn't much faster if you ask me
[10:36] <nixternal> but then again, that could be my lappy
[10:37] <johnlittle> I think it's getting bloated (comparitively)
[10:39] <nixternal> fluxbuntu might be cool if they get it out soon
[10:39] <johnlittle> yeah i think so
[10:40] <johnlittle> nubuntu looks like fun..i'd get in trouble but..
[10:40] <Madpilot> Flubuntu? Bird Flubuntu?
[10:40] <johnlittle> lol
[10:40] <nixternal> haha
[10:41] <Madpilot> need sleep - night, all
[10:45] <johnlittle> me like
[12:27] <jenda> Hello Marketeers.
[12:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> hey jenda
[12:29] <jenda> ;)
[12:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[12:43] <elkbuntu> hello jenda :)
[08:30] <johnlittle> just did a fresh install with the new release...slick'
[09:17] <nixternal> i just did a fresh install of Kubuntu Edgy Eft Knot1 Pre and just up'd everything..talk about nice.. ;)
[09:17] <nixternal> got rid of that ubuntu/xgl install, however that is some sweet eye-candy
[12:01] <johnlittle> :-/