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soulriderits .kcsrc12:08
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viper550KDE Color Scheme file12:09
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viper550Import it using the Import Color Scheme button in Colors (in System Settings)12:09
Dr_Willisi think ya can fire up that theme manager and drag/drop it on therre also. (wellya can with some files)12:10
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Dr_Willisthats a 'gnome thing' ? :P12:10
Agiosso, what does a "gnome thing" have to do with a KDE color scheme?12:10
viper550I ported it to KDE!12:11
soulriderit llooks nice12:11
soulriderbut where can i get the window deco ?12:11
Agiosahh, The Viper550 Gnome Thing KDE Color Scheme.12:11
viper550Umm, that's for Metacity only...but Plastik looks good with it12:11
Dr_WillisPlastik is a nice theme. :P12:11
Dr_Willisactually useable! :)12:12
viper550Or, try it with the SUSE2 window border on KDE look, looks pretty nice!12:12
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angasule??bug12:17
angasule!bug12:17
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com12:17
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zipper!c++12:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about c++ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:19
zipperCan anyone recommend a good Visual Studio replacement for c++ development?12:19
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wordzipper: don't know about C++ but a good one is gambas12:20
Dr_Williskde has a native ide dont it.12:21
angasulekdevelop12:21
wordkdevelop?12:21
wordyah12:21
zipperword, i just found kdevelop, installing it atm12:21
wordi haven't really extensively used either of them but i heard gambas was better :-/12:22
qubiteclipse is another12:22
zipperwill probably check out gambas as well, thank you12:22
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angasulegambas is for a BASIC-like language12:23
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TheGateKeeperzipper: http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/screen-shots12:24
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zipperthanks12:25
word!tvout12:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tvout - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:26
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looktjhi12:30
looktj!fans12:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fans - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:30
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farouslooktj: run ksensors12:30
farouswill give you most information about your hardware12:31
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castanhedeHolla12:37
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Bearcat!seen foot12:43
ubotuI last saw foot (n=lovely@64-17-77-17.co.warpdriveonline.com) 8h 5m 7s ago, quiting: Remote closed the connection12:43
soulrider!seen myself in the mirror12:44
draiksoulrider LOL12:44
soulriderdidnt answer though :(12:45
soulriderbrb12:45
draik!seen myself12:45
ubotuI last saw myself (i=unkmar@durhamlug/dimsum) 2d 18h 10m 57s ago, changing nicks12:45
draik!seen myself in the mirror12:45
angasuleis there a way to run OSX apps on linux?12:45
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Bearcatangasule: not that i know of, no12:47
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otaku-sanhey how whould I give root access to ark?  I'm trying to unpack an kdm theme into /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes but it won't let me01:06
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Blissexotaku-san: try 'kdesu ark'01:08
Blissexotaku-san: unpacking there is not a very good idea.01:09
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otaku-sanBlissex: ok I thought it was kdesu...why not there01:11
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Blissexotaku-san: because it is an areas handled by the package manager, and it can create problems to confuse the package manager with files not belonging to it. User manually installed files should essentially always go under '/usr/local' only.01:12
otaku-sanBlissex: what does this mean tho'? $KDEDIR/share/apps/kdm/themes01:13
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hacostachacarron macarron01:13
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Blissexotaku-san: well, you can have per-user themes, and you can have paths, and in the most desperate case put the files under '/usr/local/' and just a symbolic link over there.01:13
Hawkwindotaku-san: Put it in ~/.kde/share/apps/kdm/themes01:14
otaku-sanwhere is that...so n00b when it comes to linux files01:14
Hawkwindotaku-san: ~/ = /home/your-user01:14
HawkwindThen .kde is a hidden directory since it starts with a .01:15
nefhi there, i just installed kubuntu 6.06 and i cant get amarok (also tried xmms) to play mp3's. i already installed libxine-extracodecs and libmad0 (and the others mentioned on ubuntu wiki "restricted formats"). does anyone know what the problem can be01:15
nef_01:15
otaku-sanHawkwind:AHHHHH thank you...wow that was simple....I can't wait to I get these basics down...01:15
otaku-sanBlissex: thank you too man01:15
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the_p00peri cant play mp3s in kubuntu, i already followed the wiki any ideas01:19
j__i just had same problem i used automatix. it installed my fav apps and needed codecs01:22
j__what is best way to remove previous kernel version after an update01:22
j__?01:22
Hawkwindj__: Best to always keep atleast 2 kernels installed.  That way if the current one messes up, you can reboot to one of the others01:23
j__where r they located so i can see how much space theyre taking up01:23
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otaku-sanHawkwind: how would I find ~/.kde/share/apps/kdm/themes in Kongueror?  Do I just type it in that text box at the top?01:28
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j__man i like kubuntu01:29
otaku-sanHawkwind: I think I got it though01:29
otaku-sanj__: Very true.  Same here01:30
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wordhow do you manually add bad blocks to the badblocks list?01:30
Hawkwindotaku-san: Just type: /home/your-user/.kde/share/apps/kdm/themes01:31
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lensI'm having a really hard time compiling this program, if someone would try to make sense of this error, I would be appreciative.  --->  http://pastebin.ca/12840601:33
jmichaelxhas anyone noticed the bug in 3.5.4 in 'configure desktop'? when you try to access wallpapers , the latest and ones labled 'most downloads' are no longer accessible01:34
archangel_whats up01:35
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archangel_can I restore the kernal and still keep my info on my pc?01:36
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the-ermlens: Sorry ... can't figure it out.01:38
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lmosherXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"... Any ideas?01:38
lensthe-erm, thanks for lookin :)01:39
the-ermlmosher: are you trying to su ?01:39
the-ermwhat I'm saying is are you trying to run it under a different user with su -c 'whatever' ?01:39
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lmosherthe-erm, su? no. I'm trying to run a 3D app (in that case it was Neverball) but xscreensaver reports the same thing01:40
the-ermYet you're still running it in x ...01:40
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lmosherfor the life of me I can't see any performance problem w/ the apps01:40
lmosherthe-erm, well neverball doesn't run too well in TTY01:40
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the-ermso you're pressing alt+F1 and then running the program?01:41
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lmosherthe-erm, Sorry, I was being sarcastic. yes I am in X01:42
Tommy!xgl01:42
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems01:42
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j__no frozen bubble :-(01:42
lmosherthe-erm, Any ideas what is causing that error?01:43
lmosheranyone? :P01:44
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Pellaeonhi01:45
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the-ermlmosher: my guess is the obvious. It can't connect to X.01:46
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lmosherthe-erm, Hrm, but the app runs fine dispite the error..01:49
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lmosher150something FPS in tuxracer.. etc.01:49
Pellaeoncan I ask a question?01:49
j__anyone want to help me w/ installing ati driver :-p01:49
lmosherPellaeon, You just did01:49
Pellaeontrue01:49
lmosherj__, what card?01:49
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Pellaeoni messed something with kde configuration01:50
Pellaeonkwallet manager just dissapeared01:50
j__9800pro01:50
Pellaeonit works, but no icon at all, no matter what I set in system settings01:51
lmosherj__, I have the same card. What distro?01:51
j__i used adept and installed the fglrx and the control panel but i see'MESA'01:51
j__latest kernel for k7, kubuntu 6.0601:51
Pellaeonkde 3.5.4, kubuntu 6.0601:52
actinicj__, have you tried easyubuntu?01:52
jmichaelxhas anyone noticed the bug in 3.5.4 in 'configure desktop'? when you try to access wallpapers , the latest and ones labled 'most downloads' are no longer accessible01:52
lmosherj__, fglrxinfo reports Mesa?01:52
j__yes01:52
lmosherj__, Ok I had that.. I would basically search google for "Ubuntu ati fglrx xorg.conf'" and varios combinations.. I found 2 or 3 guids that helped me01:52
Pellaeonjmichaelx: just noticed01:52
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j__alright hand editing01:53
actinicATI Howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?highlight=%28CategoryDocumentation%2901:53
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jmichaelxPellaeon: not a big issue, but a bug is a bug. i dunno if it is a kubuntu or a kde issue01:53
lmosheryeah I think that was the guide I used :)01:53
Pellaeonjmichaelx: true, but i don't like if something eludes my understanding :>01:54
jmichaelxlo01:54
jmichaelxlol01:54
j__should i remove what i installed in adept01:55
Pellaeonsorry for my english :/01:55
actinicjmichaelx, you're right, seems there's a bug in the 'configure desktop' function01:56
j__looks like its same packages01:56
jmichaelxPellaeon: you're english is fine01:56
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Pellaeonkwallet manager appears if i type "kdesu kwalletmanager"01:59
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j__thx for the link01:59
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Pellaeonbut then it starts automagickally after restart, requesting su password02:00
Pellaeonwhich is a little strange02:00
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timthelionis there a guid to getting vim to highlight perl?02:05
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higen_darn.. i am realy into the.. kde or gnome question again.. ..  is there any gstreamer players made with QT?02:07
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damien_Hey guys, quick question, I installed mysql-server on my desktop to play around with, but how do I get it so that it doesn't start on bootup? I just want to start it manually when I want to play with it.02:12
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elvstoneanyone know if there's any package for graphicsmagick somewhere?02:14
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batman007I cant compile anything.. I always get this error: "Can't find kernel build files in /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/build;"02:16
batman007Anyone know how to fix that?02:16
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damienskiesHello I'm having trouble installing firefox or getting anything though apt-get.02:19
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damienskiesCan someone help me?02:23
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actinicdamien_, system settings > system services (under the system administration section) to stop or start services02:24
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actinicdamienskies, have you tried synaptic or adept?  Same problem?02:26
damienskiesAll programs on adept are installed and Firefox is grayed out for soem reason.02:27
damienskies*some02:27
damienskiesSynaptic also seems to not be on my computer.02:29
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actinicyou've done:  'apt-get update' first?02:31
damienskiesYes.02:31
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actinicEasyUbuntu installs Firefox automatically ... easyubuntu.freecontrib.org02:32
actinichowever it seems to be down for the moment02:32
damienskiesI actually did something else to install it but it wont run and gives me this error message.02:33
damienskies'/opt/firefox/firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory'02:34
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damien_Thank actinic02:34
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dbgltis there a way to re-associate all file/MIME types with my KDE applications?02:38
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dbgltI installed ubuntu, and some apps still have old file associations (even though they are correct in kcontrol); e.g. opera still attempts to use gnome software02:39
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actinicbatman007, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217657&highlight=compile+kernel02:52
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Admiral_Chicago!restricted format02:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about restricted format - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:53
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:53
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Healot!help02:54
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage02:54
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tearhello03:01
eamonHow come only one application can use alsa at a time? Eg if I want to play a video in youtube in firefox I have to exit amarok then restart firefox to be able to have sound. Then when I go to play a video in kaffeine I have to close firefox before I can get sound.03:01
tearanybody know how to install fluxbox03:01
Admiral_Chicagocan someone tell me why I got this "E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate" while installing w32codecs03:02
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Healot!SEVEAS03:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about SEVEAS - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:03
OpeNZAdmiral:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats03:03
Healot!seveas03:03
ubotuSeveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages03:03
Healotcase sensitive :)03:04
eamonHow come only one application can use alsa at a time? Eg if I want to play a video in youtube in firefox I have to exit amarok then restart firefox to be able to have sound. Then when I go to play a video in kaffeine I have to close firefox before I can get sound. Any ideas guys?03:05
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GNULinuxGeekHello All.  Has anyone experienced this?  Konqueror will start and come up in Icon view with huge icons.  As long as I use that icon set, I can navigate.  If I try to change icon size, it won't, if I try to switch to detailed view Konqueror locks up totally.  Running Dapper.03:06
Admiral_ChicagoHealot, i'll check it out03:06
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tivohello03:06
HealotALSA deamon can be shared realtime I think, my VIA '97 can do that automagically, with the default setup03:07
tivocan anyone help me with an SVIDEO problem?  Set up 2nd display in xorg.conf but nothing shows up on my TV03:07
Admiral_ChicagoHealot, ah yes AMD64. dang, I don't understand the instructions, but i'll figure it out03:07
HealotAdmiral_Chicago, if you have more time, you can take the source and try to compile, or use Windows :003:07
elvstonewhat the hell!03:07
tivoin the system settings it shows the 2nd display as active03:08
Admiral_ChicagoHealot, compile from source I can do03:08
elvstonei asked to remove the littlecms package with adept, and it started removing a _boat load_ of packages that dependen upon it, without asking me!03:08
Healotbut, iirc, w32codecs has a 64bit version, but I never rely on that information03:08
elvstonethat's insane.03:08
Admiral_ChicagoHealot, no, but you can trick your computer to using and installing the i386 version03:10
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damien_Hey anybody know how to disable the google suggest in konqueror and revert it to a regular search box? They way it works is kind of annoying, like the cursor always jumps to the end for example03:11
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jmichaelxwhat is a 'backported' package?03:11
carlos<- good question :p03:11
damien_jmichaelx: I believe it's a package that's in a newer version of ubuntu but that was backported to work with an older version.03:12
jmichaelxahhh, ty damien_03:13
ruAnyone know how to specify which Xinerama screen applications launch/start in03:13
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carlosnormally backported packages are because they are more "trust-able" :-p03:14
carlosfor production servers and things like that03:14
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otaku-sanon konsole what would I put with "kdesu" to give konqueror root access to move files?03:15
damien_Can't you just do "kdesu konqueror"?03:16
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carlosin konsole i would rather to use "sudo"03:19
carlosbut the user must be on /etc/sudoers03:19
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otaku-sandamien_:probably...let me try03:20
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jmichaelxi just added a seveas repo (extras), would there be a way to only view the packages in that repo?03:26
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elvstonewhat the hell now.. i've just ended up with KDE 3.5.2 on my 6.06.1 kubuntu.. only this minute i was running 3.5.4.. what could have happened?03:27
elvstonei was just installing some things with adept..03:27
otaku-sanjmichaelx: well...probably your best bet would to look in adept...it will show all of the packs tho' not separate packs03:27
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jmichaelxotaku-san: ok, i was just hoping to see only the new packages that would be available03:28
otaku-sanjmichaelx: why do you need to look at the new ones?03:28
elvstonehttp://bob.dose.se/sources.list <-- that's my sources.list.. anyone know how i could have ended up with a downgrade to KDE 3.5.2?03:29
elvstonei was just installing ruby18-dev and some other packages..03:29
jmichaelxotaku-san: i just added that repo and i want to know what packages are in it03:29
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otaku-sanjmichaelx: oh and what are the new packs?  can you pastebin em?03:29
jmichaelxotaku-san: i don't know what they are, lol. that is what i want to find out:-)03:30
otaku-sanjmichaelx: I mean can you pastebin your source.list03:30
jmichaelxotaku-san: it apparently contains a newer version of adobe acrobat reader than the ubuntu repos03:31
otaku-sanelvstone: I'm looking at your source.list....don't know if I can help you tho'03:31
jmichaelxotaku-san: the repository i added is the seveas extras, otherwise my repository list is pretty typical03:32
otaku-sanjmichaelx: do you want to make sure that this new repo has acrobat?03:32
jmichaelxotaku-san: i know that it does, it is a newer one than in the ubuntu repos, i was just curious as o what other packages seveas contained03:33
jmichaelxto*03:33
otaku-sanjmichaelx: ok.....hold on I know I've seen something like this before03:33
jmichaelxok03:33
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otaku-sanelvstone: if your on still... I saw you have the amd 64 release version of Dapper.  This version has been known to be...well not exactly stable...and I've heard mention on the Ubuntu Forums of the KDE downgrading it's self03:37
elvstoneit's so weird.. running dpkg -l | grep kdebase shows 3.5.2-0ubuntu27 version of kdebase-bin, kdebase-data and kdebase-kio-plugins.03:37
elvstoneotaku-san: "downgrading itself".. how the h**l would that happen?03:38
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draikSysinfo for 'Lair': Linux 2.6.15-26-686 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)4CPU3.20GHz at 3216 MHz (6432 bogomips), , RAM: 1066/3031MB, 99 proc's, 7.25h up03:40
elvstoneotaku-san: have a link to the forums? or know what i could search for?03:40
otaku-sanelvstone: you have to remember 64 bit technology is still up and coming....I mean look at windoze...they don't hardly support it.  This best way right now is to install the x86 version of kubuntu...Also yes search on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ for your problem03:41
otaku-sanelvstone: it's alot more eisier than tottaly reinstalling kubuntu03:41
elvstonei hardly think the problem of KDE suddenly downgrading itself is 64-bit related.03:41
elvstonei'm running FreeBSD fine on this machine, just wanted to try kubuntu out too.03:42
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elvstonewhat is easier than reinstalling kubuntu? and why would i reinstall kubuntu?03:42
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otaku-sanelvstone: searching on the forums...I meant the reinstalling as a last resort...and you would change the architech you download from what you got (amd 64 release) to the x8603:44
otaku-santhats why you would reinstall03:44
otaku-sanmaybe...try the forums for your answer03:45
elvstonei specifically chose the amd64 to see how good it would work, i'm not using this kubuntu install for regular work..03:45
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otaku-sanelvstone: ok...so no hard feelings if you reinstalled it?03:45
otaku-sanelvstone: hold on03:45
elvstoneokay. well i'm a bit confused now, since i'm reading that 3.5.4 is in a special repo (deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354 dapper main).. i can't remember ever having that repo in my sources.list, and still i was running 3.5.4 not longer than an hour ago..03:46
Kr4t05I'm having problems with KAudioCreator.03:46
elvstoneotaku-san: no. no hard feelings ;) except a slightly bad mood.. but i really don't think a reinstall should be necessary, it's just some package system problem or something.03:47
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elvstoneokay. installing 3.5.4 from the special repo..03:49
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otaku-sanjmichaelx: sorry to leave you hanging there.  Could you paste you source.list here. http://pastebin.ca/03:51
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otaku-sanelvstone: tell me what happens and I'll search for your problem and see if theres a different fix03:59
otaku-sanjmichaelx: are you still on?04:00
Gh0st75do i need any special packages installed to be able to remote to my kubuntu desktop from a windows machine?04:00
Dr_WillisVNC can let you do that04:00
Dr_Willisdepends on HOW you want to do it.04:00
Dr_WillisI would advise installing the ssh server, and a vnc server.04:00
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Dr_Willis!info vnc4server04:00
viper550http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=4413404:00
ubotuvnc4server: Virtual network computing server software. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.1.1+xorg1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 986 kB, installed size 2332 kB04:00
Gh0st75ok, will look into that, thanks04:00
Dr_Willisis this over the internet? or local lan?04:01
archangel_can I restore JUST the kernal as apposed to restalling?04:01
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Dr_Willisarchangel_,  ya could reinstall the kernel package i guess.04:01
Gh0st75over the internet currently, from a work pc to home, but i will be wanting to do the same over a local lan once i get a windows laptop04:01
archangel_Dr_Willis: how do I do that?04:02
Dr_WillisGh0st75,  hmm..  it pays to learn ssh tunnles also in that case.04:02
Dr_Willisfor security04:02
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Hawkwindarchangel_: sudo apt-get install linux-image04:02
Dr_Willisarchangel_,  apt-get install somtkernelpackage. :P i never rember the names04:02
elvstoneotaku-san: okay, after adding the special repo with 3.5.4, upgrading (it failed once and i had to do dpkg --configure -a), and then removing my ~/.kde because KDE was acting up (no panel), i got it to a usable state..04:02
elvstoneso i'm fine now.04:02
archangel_Dr_Willis: this is for a laptop that has all the important info for kids camp04:02
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Gh0st75i'm not against learning something new, tho i'm only a couple weeks old with using linux04:02
Gh0st75googling ssh tunnels will give me somethin to do at work tomorrow04:03
archangel_Dr_Willis: the pc wont even boot without the live cd04:03
archangel_actually its a laptop04:03
Dr_Willisso you some how deleted the kernel?04:04
otaku-sanelvstone: dang...well...what are you doing without the panel...I mean is the whole thing gone? Menu and all?04:04
archangel_no04:04
Hawkwindarchangel_: What are you trying/wanting to do exactly ?04:04
Hawkwindarchangel_: Also, what did you do that you want to 'restore/reinstall' the kernel ?04:05
elvstoneotaku-san: everything was gone except for a couple of application icons (the K-menu was gone, and the systray et.c.).04:05
archangel_I am getting a "kernal panic" error04:05
Hawkwindarchangel_: I ask this because you've been asking about this for 3 days and have yet to say what you've done or want to do exactly04:05
elvstonei could right click on the desktop and choose Run Command -> "xterm".. and fix it..04:05
elvstoneso it's good now.04:05
elvstonei just lost my KDE settings, but that wasn't much.04:05
Hawkwindarchangel_: When, as in, be specific04:05
archangel_ok04:05
Gh0st75i have the vnc4 server package selected, what is the specific ssh package i'd need called?04:05
archangel_here it goes04:06
archangel_....04:06
Dr_Willis!info ssh04:06
HawkwindGh0st75: openssh-server ?04:06
ubotussh: Secure shell client and server (transitional package). In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.2p1-7ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1 kB, installed size 32 kB04:06
Dr_Willisits 'ssh' :P  i think04:06
otaku-sanelvstone: awesome!  so you got it back?04:06
Gh0st75k, got openssh-server selected too, thanks04:06
HawkwindYeah I guess so.  I'm still not used to the different package names as I'm used to Mandriva's naming scheme still04:06
HawkwindDr_Willis: Hah!  Guess mine was right :P04:07
archangel_my bro was upgrading the kernal......04:07
Gh0st75only package scheme i'm used to is UPS, heh04:07
Dr_WillisGh0st75,  you may want to use a very lightweight window maanger also. for vncing around..  it can get laggy with kde and gnome.04:07
archangel_it was at 98% done and he pulled the plug and shut the laptop down04:07
archangel_cause he was in a hurry04:07
Hawkwindarchangel_: So boot to a different kernel04:08
archangel_now the pc wont boot04:08
Dr_Willisor he trashed the filesystem04:08
archangel_how do you do that?04:08
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Dr_Willisthe grub menu should show severla kernels.04:08
Gh0st75yes, i do fully intend to switch to a more streamlined desktop once i'm a little more familiar with linux, i mainly chose kde for windows feel so the learning curve wouldn't scare me too much at first04:08
Hawkwindarchangel_: There is a point where you can hit 'ESC' I think it is to select a different kernel04:08
Gh0st75Xubuntu i guess would make a good choice eventually04:08
Dr_WillisI find the 'hidden grub menu' default to be very very stupid., :P one  of the first things i change,04:08
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archangel_ok let me try.... it's right here beside me04:08
Dr_WillisGh0st75,  may want even lighter then that. Like fluxbox, or icewm04:09
Gh0st75those pretty much entirely comman-line driven?04:09
Dr_WillisNo. :P04:09
Dr_Willisjust window managers, not full desktops.04:09
Gh0st75cool, more stuff to research :)04:09
Dr_Willisso they use less resources04:10
archangel_ohh sweet, I am in the menu04:10
Gh0st75compatibility and ease of transition are my focus currently, but i fully intend to focus on functionality and efficiency after that04:10
Gh0st75i've heard of fluxbox before, never heard of icewm tho04:11
Dr_Willisold skool. :P04:12
Dr_Williswindows 95is look/feel.04:12
archangel_Hawkwind: I am in the menu now and it looks like I have 6 choices (however they all look to be the same version)04:12
elvstoneotaku-san: yep.04:12
Gh0st75ah, not that old school then04:12
Dr_Willisthen ya got the UBER light window managers. :P04:12
elvstoneotaku-san: sorry if i sounded a little harsh before, it's very late. going to bed now. thanks.04:12
archangel_Hawkwind: every other choice is a "recovery mode"04:12
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archangel_Hawkwind: is the top choice the latest and so on down the list?04:13
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Hawkwindarchangel_: So pick one about half way down the screen, that is *not* 'recovery mode'04:13
j__hi04:13
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archangel_Hawkwind: got ya04:13
Hawkwindarchangel_: The top is the default, which is the one it tries to boot to when you don't select anything different04:13
Hawkwindarchangel_: So even the second one on the list that is *not* 'recovery mode' should work for ya04:14
j__would you recommend automatic or easy ubuntu?04:14
j__automatix*04:14
Hawkwindj__: apt-get from the terminal :P04:14
archangel_Hawkwind: yeah, it seems to be working04:14
archangel_Hawkwind: you think my drivers will still be there or would I have to reload them all04:15
Hawkwindarchangel_: What you'll want to do once the machine is booted, is go into Adept and remove the latest version of the kernel.  Chances are that is the top entry in the grub menu and then you can try and update the kernel again04:15
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Hawkwindarchangel_: Video drivers ?  Possible, but hard to say really04:15
archangel_ok04:15
Hawkwindarchangel_: Actually, as soon as you get the machine booted, I'd try to update the system and see if it possibly finishes the update to the new kernel04:16
j__ok where should i go to read about installing codecs04:16
Kr4t05!tell j__ about restricted04:16
Hawkwind!restricted formats > j__04:16
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archangel_Hawkwind: ok, wow it's already requesting to do what you said04:17
archangel_Hawkwind: man, the intelligence of this OS kills me04:18
archangel_I am VERY experienced in Window$ and M$ is nowhere near this04:19
otaku-sanarchangel_: of course it's not...;)04:19
archangel_be back later04:19
archangel_Hey thanks guys04:19
j__learning curve/04:19
j__?04:19
archangel_peace and love!!04:19
otaku-sanok now I'm here to bug you guys04:20
Hawkwindarchangel_: Glad to have helped :)04:21
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playtime3Dr_Willis: can u please give me that link again04:25
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playtime3opps04:26
Dr_Willisbot 101. :P04:26
Dr_Willis!apt04:26
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)04:26
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CaBlGuY!limewire04:29
ubotulimewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.04:29
eamonLimewire sucks ass04:31
soulrideruse frostwire04:31
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CVirus!frostwire04:32
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire04:32
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Gh0st75frostwire? sounds interestin04:35
soulriderits like limewire04:35
Dr_Willisi use it under windows04:35
soulriderjust more free and more opensource :P04:35
CaBlGuYreadin now..04:35
Dr_Willisand the riaa is going after limewire.. so.....04:35
OODlimewire got sued by the RIAA04:35
OODyeah04:35
Gh0st75i normally avoid those p2p programs cause of malware, but i usually trust most open source04:35
Gh0st75to install it i just copy the command line at that link into konsole?04:36
soulriderthe *AA can eat my arse04:36
Dr_Willisactually ive seen very little malware on them. :P04:36
Gh0st75only installed packages on this so far, yet to install any other programs04:36
Dr_Willisof course with linux.... its not that big an issue.04:36
soulriderlimewire/frostwire is safe04:37
soulrideryea04:37
soulriderits not like somehtign si gonna delete your c: :P04:37
Gh0st75yeah, the restricted access helps prevent from most malware virii or hacker worries04:37
soulrideryea but its not like theres any viruses/malware etc04:38
CaBlGuYok so, Im not able to get frostwire.. :/04:38
soulriderwhy not04:38
CaBlGuYsayin the package aint there..04:38
soulriderhang on04:38
CaBlGuYk04:38
soulriderhttp://www.frostwire.com/download.php?file=http://mirror1.peercommons.net/frostwire/4.10.9/FrostWire-4.10.9-2.i586.deb04:39
soulriderdownlaod that04:39
soulriderright click04:39
soulriderand look for install package04:39
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CaBlGuYok, I found it on the website.. :p04:39
CaBlGuYwww.frostwire.com04:39
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soulriderive been using this little program that will ave the music you listen to in Pandora.com to your hard drive04:40
mjhanyone know if there is a way to easily sort items in kmenu other than manually doing it?04:40
soulrideri dont know why it isnt working on linux though, since its java it should04:40
soulriderHawkwind: are you there?04:41
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soulrider!shipit04:41
ubotushipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org04:41
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Bearcat!seen foot04:42
ubotuI last saw foot (n=lovely@64-17-77-17.co.warpdriveonline.com) 12h 3m 45s ago, quiting: Remote closed the connection04:42
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Bearcat*scampers off*04:42
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ivan`how well does kubuntu ppc work? especially on an 867 mhz old-gen powerbook G4?04:42
ivan`i'm concerned about sleep and my netgear pcmcia card04:43
mjhsleep never works for me04:43
mjhso good luck04:43
ivan`heh04:43
ivan`if it boots in 1 minute it doesn't matter to me04:43
j__anyone know where i can find a wmv codec for kubuntu 6.0604:43
OOD!w3204:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about w32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:43
OOD!w32codec04:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about w32codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:43
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OOD!w32codecs04:44
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:44
OODfinally :P04:44
ivan`that thing needs a fuzzy search04:44
CaBlGuYwell crap, now I need to update Java.. :/04:44
j__!w32codecs04:44
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:44
CaBlGuY!JRE 1.404:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about JRE 1.4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:44
maltaethiron!java04:44
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository04:44
soulriderCaBlGuY: do it via CLI, if you use adept youll have some trouble04:44
CaBlGuY!JRE04:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about JRE - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:44
soulrider!j2se04:45
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mjhwhat are you trying to do04:45
CaBlGuYsoulrider:  whats the command?\04:45
mjhinstall java?04:45
CaBlGuYnope..04:45
CaBlGuYIf you have it installed already..  u need an upgrade..04:45
CaBlGuYIE: upgrade, JRE whatever..04:45
CaBlGuYright soulrider?04:45
mjhdownload, extract, put in front of path04:46
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CaBlGuYactually  it should be something like..   upgarde jre 1.404:46
CaBlGuYor somethin like that04:46
soulrideri dont quite remember the name of the package04:46
soulriderim not sure04:46
soulriderhang on04:46
CaBlGuYHmmmm04:46
CaBlGuYmayeb nalioth knows.. :p04:47
naliothknows what?04:47
soulriderin console type04:47
soulridersudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre04:47
CaBlGuYhow to upgrade to JRE 1.404:47
soulriderthat will do the trick04:47
soulrideri dont think you can upgrade04:47
CaBlGuYAhh  that would be better even. :)04:47
soulriderid go for a full install, just in case04:47
eamonCaBlGuY: You want JRE 1.504:48
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CaBlGuYyea.,..    I already got sun-java5-jre installed04:49
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eamonYou want that one: Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_06-b05)04:49
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eamon!java04:50
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository04:50
CaBlGuYok so the command would be sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre04:50
Gh0st75so if i ran the sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre in konsole that soulrider mentioned, do i still need java 2? the first one was for 1.5 correct?04:50
CaBlGuYhmmmm04:50
nikkunhas anyone ever had a problem with cp omitting a directory that it should be able to copy?04:51
eamonyou need to follow that page to install java. simply typing sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre is not enough04:51
CaBlGuYbut mine is sayin I already got the newest version installed.,. IE: Java 504:51
eamontype java -version04:51
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j__thanks ubotu ;-)04:52
eamonCaBlGuY: type "java -version"04:52
CaBlGuYgot 1.4.204:52
eamonsee you need to update your system04:52
CaBlGuYsooooooo04:52
eamonto use the new java04:52
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CaBlGuYjust do a upgrade then?04:53
eamonno04:53
eamonfolow the instructions here04:53
eamon!java04:53
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository04:53
eamonhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java <-- go here04:53
y0shiHi, I need help. I have two sound devices (onboard and pci sb live). for some reason the sb live doesnt work (although it is recognized) the funny thing is I can hear the microphone playback.04:53
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y0shihelp?04:56
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Hawkwindsoulrider: I am now, what's up ?04:57
soulriderah hey04:57
soulriderwell, i need to insatll vmware, but before you say somehting04:57
Agioshttp://www.timia.net/agios04:57
soulrideryes, i followed the wiki :P04:57
soulriderbut it asks me for some stuff i have no idea04:57
excitatorywow, thanks for the tip of frostwire.. it's probably the fastest java app i've ever used..like EVAR.04:57
y0shiplease, someone, help me with my sound problem.04:57
Hawkwindsoulrider: You want the free version, vmware-server or whatever it is.  Download it from the vmware site directly04:58
maltaethironguys, i need help installing tdfsb, a 3d filebrowser for kde04:58
Hawkwindy0shi: Disable the onboard one within the BIOS and then the SBlive should just work out of the box04:58
soulrideri got workstation04:58
soulrideri just dont know how to install :P04:59
Hawkwindsoulrider: That might be the free version04:59
crimsuny0shi: ``asoundconf list''04:59
Hawkwindsoulrider: I don't use vmware, so you might try in #VmWare04:59
crimsuny0shi: what's the output from that command?04:59
j__what should i do for dvd video playback04:59
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soulriderHawkwind: are there any free programs similar to vmware and that work as good as vmware does?05:00
y0shisec. checking05:00
baskoSOS: I tried installing a .deb package a while ago; It seems like the package was partially installed. So now every package management system: apt-get, aptitude, dpkg complain about this. Is there away to forcible remove this partial package? I asked because it seems like the .deb file wasnt made properly. Is there as way to hack the package management system to ignore that particular package? It's just an application; no real important files for the05:00
excitatorybasko: sudo dpkg --configure -a05:01
y0shiHawkwind: SI7012 \n Live05:01
crimsuny0shi: and you want to use the Live, correct?05:01
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y0shiyes..05:01
crimsuny0shi: then execute this: asoundconf set-default-card Live05:01
crimsuny0shi: then log out of KDE and back in05:01
y0shio. sounds promising:)05:01
y0shibe back in a jiffy05:02
soulriderwhen i order from shipit, should i include a countrya dna rea code in the hpone field or just my phone ?05:02
baskoexcitatory: tried that and nothing printed out. is that expected?05:02
maltaethironis there anyone not busy that wants to help me out?  its not a life or death problem..but its a little annoying05:03
j__man mplayer web extension runs like crap for me :-/05:03
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soulridermaltaethiron: im not pro but maybe i can help you05:03
Hawkwindsoulrider: There is qemu.  Let me give you a URL about it real quick05:03
soulriderok, thanks05:03
excitatorybasko: not sure.. sometimes that's ok, i believe.. idk.. try installing something.. or retry that deb05:03
Hawkwindsoulrider: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=187413&highlight=kqemu05:03
maltaethironsoulrider: im trying to install this program called tdfsb05:04
baskoexcitatory: tried another package, the error is still there05:04
maltaethironsoulrider: its a 3d filebrowser05:04
excitatorybasko: what deb did you try to install?05:04
soulriderok05:04
soulrideryou got a link ?05:04
baskoexcitatory: the pre release jedit deb05:04
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baskoexcitatory: from that site05:04
maltaethironsoulrider: me?05:04
soulrideryea05:04
soulriderwhere did you get it from05:05
guycrimsun: thanks alot!05:05
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maltaethironi saw it while browsing through synaptic05:05
excitatorybasko: hrm..was it a debian package or ubuntu specific??  (generally debian ones are safe, but any time you mix software trees, problems can ensue)05:05
soulrideruhm ok05:05
soulriderlet me see if i can find it05:05
maltaethironok05:06
soulriderwhat is the problem youre having ?05:06
archangel_Hawkwind: the laptop boots now, but now adept is telling me that another instance is running and asks me to close it. How do I do this when I cannot see any other program running?05:06
baskoexcitatory: debian05:06
excitatorybasko: i just tried the package.. it doesn't work05:06
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baskoexcitatory: did it mess up your system?05:07
maltaethironsoulrider: when i tried to install it, synaptic said there was some dependancy problem05:07
soulriderlet me see if i can install it05:07
maltaethironsoulrider: heres the error message05:07
maltaethironsoulrider:05:07
maltaethirontdfsb:05:07
maltaethiron Depends: libsdl-image1.2 (>=1.2.3) but it is not installable05:07
maltaethiron Depends: libsdl1.2debian (>1.2.7+1.2.8) but it is not installable05:07
maltaethiron Depends: libsmpeg0c2  but it is not installable05:07
excitatorybasko: no.. i was just able to install another app.. jedit didn't even install.. it errored out.05:09
soulriderhang on, today i  had some trouble installing somehtign and ym aept is screwed up05:09
soulriderill fix it ina  sec05:09
excitatorybasko: try purging it..05:10
baskoexcitatory: your're lucky mine messed up any other installation05:10
baskoexcitatory: how do i do that?05:10
excitatorybasko: um..you don't know about purging?  how do you remove software?  sudo aptitude purge <package>05:11
excitatoryor i suppose, sudo apt-get purge <package>05:11
soulridermaltaethiron: i managed to isntall it but ti crashes when i open it05:11
excitatorywhatever your preference is05:11
soulrideri suggets you go tot heir website, maybe you can find a newer version05:11
soulrideror the source and be bale to compile it yourself05:11
maltaethironok, thanks soulrider, as long as i know its not just my computer05:12
waggle7622frackWhen I try to share a folder on my network but all the options are greyed out. Am I missing something? I get this with alot of system settings even with root password.05:12
baskoexcitatory: it still errored out man05:13
excitatorybasko: sudo dpkg -C05:13
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baskoThe following packages are in a mess due to serious problems during05:14
baskoinstallation.  They must be reinstalled for them (and any packages05:14
baskothat depend on them) to function properly:05:14
basko jedit05:14
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baskoexcitatory: that05:15
baskoexcitatory: that is the error (or a variation of it)05:15
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excitatorythis is actually one problem i have with the deb system.. mixing trees can fsck your system.. at least ostensibly.05:16
excitatoryso yea..05:16
ubuntuhijos de putaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa05:16
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ubuntuconchatumares05:17
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jmichaelxthat is not very appropriate05:17
windhow do i set it to automatically connect to a wireless router05:17
ubuntuchupenle la zorra a sus mamas05:17
ubuntuchupenle las tetas a sus  mamas05:17
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baskoexcitatory: lol....05:17
ubuntuhijos de puta05:17
jmichaelxubuntu needs to be banned05:17
windand how do i turn off all these req. password things05:17
baskoexcitatory: yah, but the funny thing is the package never really installed. So I05:18
excitatorybasko: i'll look into it more.. but in the mean time, ask in #ubuntu .. tell them you installed a debian-specific package, and that it failed and is preventing you from doing anything further package-management-wise..05:18
excitatoryubuntu: behave yourself05:18
baskoexcitatory: ok thanks will do that05:18
ubuntuunited states is one sarat the pich05:18
excitatorybasko: yeah, and dpkg --configure -a should have fixed that.. ALWAYS works for me.05:18
soulriderubuntu, callate un poquito05:19
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soulriderthe worst is that hes using kubuntu....05:19
ubuntujohn cena is berry good05:19
jmichaelx!mods05:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mods - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:19
soulrider!op05:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about op - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:20
jmichaelx!ops05:20
ubotuHelp! Riddell, uniq, Mez, jpatric, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, or gnomefreak05:20
soulrider:)05:20
jmichaelxlol05:20
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soulrider:) owned05:20
ubuntuim not english05:20
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soulridereos no import05:20
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soulridereso no importa*05:20
soulriderok05:20
jmichaelxsorry to bother you, imbrandon05:21
soulrideri was gonna go for some swearing in spanish05:21
imbrandon_np05:21
soulriderbut that worked :P05:21
soulriderthank you05:21
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russ1What can I use in kubuntu to rip a CD to an ISO?05:21
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excitatoryruss1: k3b05:21
soulriderimbrandon_: now that youre here can i ask you somehting?05:21
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soulriderin shipit, should i include my country and area code in the phone number?05:21
imbrandon_thanks nalioth i was looking for the hostname05:22
imbrandon_soulrider: sure05:22
soulriderok05:22
soulriderdo i have to put ( ) or just the numbers05:22
imbrandon_just the numbers should be ok05:22
soulriderok, thanks05:22
soulriderany spaces? :P05:22
imbrandon_its read byu a "real person"05:22
imbrandon_s/byu/by05:22
windhow do i set it to automatically connect to a wireless router05:23
windand how do i turn off all these req. password things05:23
soulriderok, im gonna order05:23
imbrandon_standard +15554447777 should be ok05:23
soulrider=D05:23
soulriderim not in the US though :/05:23
windlike a req password to use IM, to connect to a network, etc05:23
jmichaelxhas anyone ever seen the ebay bidding app that some linux distros have? does it exist in any ubuntu repo? i think it is called 'jdbid' or something similar05:23
imbrandon_soulrider: yea but the full think is what i mean05:23
soulriderkk05:24
imbrandon_!info jdbid dapper05:24
ubotuPackage jdbid does not exist in dapper05:24
imbrandon_!find bid05:24
ubotuFound: libfribidi-dev, libfribidi0, libid3-3.8.3-dev, libid3-3.8.3c2a, libid3tag0 (and 17 others)05:24
soulridererr, what should i use for "" "n" ?05:24
imbrandon_jmichaelx: best to search packages.ubuntu.com05:24
naliothimbrandon_: which one are you? i just /msg'd imbrandon05:24
imbrandon_soulrider: yes05:24
soulriderok05:24
russ1When I set my laptop to "Suspend" when the lid is closed under "Laptops & Power" in system settings, suspend works great when I close the lid. How can I make it Suspend without closing the lid?05:24
imbrandon_nalioth: thats my lappy its in the other room05:25
imbrandon_i'm on _ atm05:25
baskoexcitatory: well no help there as yet...no one replys :/05:25
jmichaelximbrandon: ok, i have the right name now 'jbidwatcher'05:25
imbrandon_!info jbidwatcher05:25
ubotuPackage jbidwatcher does not exist in dapper05:25
excitatorywind: sounds like the password to kwallet... the app which manages your passwords.. in your taskbar, there should be an icon for kwallet.. right click, configure.. go to the access control tab and make sure, "Prompt when an application accesses an open wallet" is checked.. then when it pops up.. always allow the program access to kwallet.05:25
imbrandon_!info jbidwatcher edgy05:25
ubotuPackage jbidwatcher does not exist in edgy05:25
imbrandon_guess not05:25
excitatorybasko: yea.. #ubuntu is usually full of clueless new users.05:26
jmichaelxok, i have it on a mepis PC, but could not find it in any repo i have for k/ubuntu05:26
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excitatoryimbrandon, perhaps you could help basko and i..05:27
xenoterracidewhat repo is kdevelop in?05:27
soulriderhey! m a clueless new user! :P05:27
tobias_:)05:27
tobias_as we all are05:27
excitatoryimbrandon, he had installed a debian package that fails to install.. and so now it's half installed, and preventing any further installations05:27
tobias_at some point of time05:27
draiksoulrider, since when are you clueless :P05:27
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russ1I'm pretty new, and very clueless.05:27
excitatoryimbrandon, i suggested dpkg --configure -a.. but that's not working apparently.05:27
imbrandon_excitatory: sudo dpkg --purge remove <package>05:28
excitatorybasko: ^^05:28
baskoimbrandon_: we tried that as well05:28
soulriderive had linux for like05:28
soulriderdunno05:28
excitatoryimbrandon, thank you kindly, sir05:28
soulriderweek and a half :P05:28
tobias_this is the right place to be if your clueless new user, because everyone is so nice and helpfull :D05:28
draikI've had linux for about... no more than about 3-4 weeks05:28
russ1I'm going on 6 months.05:29
tobias_ive had it for a week now i think05:29
draikI write down everything that I come across and just try to remember things05:29
Gh0st75lots here like that draik, you're twice as experienced with it as me :)05:29
xenoterracidewill if everyone is nice and helpfull tobias_ what repository is kdevelop in?05:29
imbrandon_basko: and it dosent remove ?05:29
baskoimbrandon_: yeah, tried it again...same thing05:29
imbrandon_pastebin the output please05:29
excitatorywell hey.. by 'clueless new user', i was attempting to be respectful and point out that the reason he wasn't getting help was because no one that knew anything wasn't around.. i try to avoid offending anyone by calling them, 'lame noobs' or whatever..05:29
jmichaelxthis room and #xubuntu have been life savers for me05:29
tobias_xeno: err Im a bigger noob than u m8e sorry I would help u if i could even figure out what half u asked is05:29
draikGh0st75, I am trying to get a manual together so that I can put it on the wiki for all new-comers05:30
tobias_xeno: I only used linux for like 5-6 days  I would love to help u if i could :)05:30
baskoimbrandon_: this is what i get E: The package jedit needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it05:30
Gh0st75always good to get more tutorials to ease folks into it, without them only the hardcore techies would be able to break away from M$05:30
tobias_xenoterracide: but you are the right place, whenever i have a problem i come her and they help me with like anything05:31
xenoterracideneed more tutorials that show people how to use the graphical interface05:31
excitatorybasko: well, the problem is that it won't install in teh first place (i tried the package myself), and so you can't re-install it..05:31
jontydogHi all how do I add my computer to mshome network?05:31
xenoterracideright...05:31
excitatorybasko: so somehow we need to zap it out as an entry.. which is what the -a option should do.05:31
draikI got fedup with micro$haft so I turned to Linux05:31
Gh0st75my first hurdles were codecs for movies and mp3 playback, and mounting my windows partitions, not sure if that's where most people first run into frustration, or it that was just me05:31
xenoterracideI know linux pretty well but I hate sources.list05:31
baskoexcitatory: exactly...is there a way to hack this manually so that it just dont recognize the discrepancy?05:32
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tobias_xenoterracide: u should go find the forums if u cant find help here05:32
excitatoryxenoterracide: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic05:32
draikGh0st75, that's why people turn AWAY... can't do something so they figure they got in over their heads and turn back to what they are used to05:32
tobias_xenoterracide: im not sure where the forums are but im sure someone here does?05:32
imbrandon_www.ubuntuforums.org05:32
Gh0st75was very simple to get those two issues resolved, couple minutes with the right (and uncluttered) info and problems solved05:33
excitatorydraik: that's why one hopes they realise that it doesn't matter that linux has a learning curve.. there's a community there to help and teach you.. and that's more than any other os can say.05:33
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baskoimbrandon_: do u know a way to manually hack the package mgnmnt sys so to remove the discrepancy?05:33
xenoterracidehmm... source-o-matic interesting.. although I've seen similar things before05:33
xenoterracidewill it help me find the kdevelop repository so I can apt-get kdevelop?05:34
tobias_imbrandon: thanx :)05:34
draikexcitatory, I can only speak for the m$ side of it (along with Kubuntu)...At least Linux doesn't charge you for simple help05:34
imbrandon_basko: not if it cant find the archive, you need to grab it , try to reinstall it , and the remove it , once it fails the first time to install run "sudo apt-get install -f " with no packages05:34
xenoterracidewhy I like gentoo... no repos finding05:34
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draik#kubuntu is my life saver05:34
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Gh0st75my current challenges are getting java working, frostwire and getting my cam working in kopete05:34
draikI am on my 2nd install of Kubuntu. I messed up my first install while playing with just about every possible option05:34
imbrandon_xenoterracide: thats all in the universe and multiverse repos you shouldent need more than those05:35
Gh0st75indeed, this place is invaluable, it's on my auto-join for konversation05:35
draikI have my cam working in Kopete05:35
draikI have java working05:35
Gh0st75i messed up my first install trying to mount my windows partitions05:35
draikI don't use frostwire05:35
xenoterracideit is ? doesn't seem to be05:35
draikI have my NTFS partitions mounted, just in case I need to pull something like pix, music, etc05:35
Gh0st75what cam you have draik? i have an intel pocket pro pc05:35
baskoimbrandon_: same crap man05:36
draikMy cam is Creative Live Web Cam05:36
excitatoryxenoterracide: sources.list is really something that only needs to be touched when you first install.. or that random time you have a 3rd party repo to add.. i don't see how you hate it so much05:36
tobias_ghost75: java should work fine, I installed java jre something from adept, have u tried that?05:36
Gh0st75yes tobias, but i understand there's more involved than just the package install, got some pages bookmarked to read tomorrow05:36
tobias_aha05:37
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tobias_:)05:37
Gh0st75linux research makes for great reading material at work, even if most of it is still over my head05:38
jontydoghi please can someone help me with Samba and mshome?05:38
draikThe only issue I have is that thunderbird won't run under my account, only under root05:38
Gh0st75a wiki for the complete neophyte would always be an asset05:38
excitatoryxenoterracide: well, it's easy for gentoo to have a mass of available packages.. because all it requires the maintainer to do it keep up with a simple text file (ebuild).. and leaves it up to the user to compile.  98% of the software one will ever need is available in one of the ubuntu repos.. the rest just requires a little time to add in a repo.. and considering you don't have to compile, the deb system is hundreds of times more eff05:38
draikjontydog, what is your problem and we will see what we can do to help you05:39
Gh0st75never use pop mail clients myself05:39
jontydogcheers draik05:39
jontydogI can read all pcs in the house that have xp installed05:39
draiknp jontydog05:39
jontydogbut I can't gain access to this kubuntu pc05:39
baskoimbrandon_: this is crazy; because of one package i cant install anything else... I hope this is not suggesting a re-install of Kubuntu???!!!05:39
ironfroggycan i adjust how much firefox scrolls per mousewheel event?05:39
jontydogkeeps asking for a password and I haven't set one05:39
imbrandon_basko: no05:40
excitatorydraik, Gh0st75, i'm assuming you've seen this: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper05:40
imbrandon_hold on05:40
draikdisable your winxp firewall... known to cause issues... just use another firewall instead on your winxp systems05:40
draikexcitatory, yes I have05:40
Gh0st75psychocats i think it's called has some good tutorials and guides for beginners too05:40
jontydogthats not the problem draik as I can read those from linux with no problem05:40
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lucashi. how can i change the kmenu icon size?05:41
excitatoryironfroggy: you can change it system wide.. go into System Settings, Peripherals, Mouse, Advanced tab, then adjust the bottom setting05:41
draikgh0st75, want to complete that sentence??? "...  i think it's called has some good tutorials ..."05:42
jontydogI can see the linux pc from XP but when I connect to it I am asked for a username and password05:42
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ironfroggyi didnt know if that would affect firefox, being that its not a KDE app.05:42
lucashi. how can i change the kmenu icon size?05:42
draiklucas, right click on your kmenu and select menu editor05:42
lucasthx05:42
lucasa lot05:43
draiklucas, sorry, I was thinking of something else, that won't do it05:43
lucasok05:43
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lucasno prob05:43
ironfroggydoesnt seem to fix my problem...05:43
excitatoryironfroggy: you may be right.. is smoothscrolling enabled in firefox prefs05:43
tkexcitatory: speaking of the deb system, if I wanted to reconfigure one of the packages I installed using adept... how would you go about that?05:43
draikGo to K Menu > System Settings > Appearance > Icons05:43
excitatoryironfroggy: that will slow it down05:43
draiklucas ^05:43
draikThat will do it for you lucas05:44
draikGo to K Menu > System Settings > Appearance > Icons05:44
ironfroggymaybe thats what i need to get rid of.. i just know firefox scrolling sucks and konqueror doesnt.05:44
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lucasdraik: now?05:44
draikjontydog, did you set up a user account?05:44
lucasdraik: advanced?05:44
ironfroggyhmm.. no, smoothscrolling isnt enabled, but it seems to act like it is.05:45
excitatorytk: not sure, since i don't use a gui for package management.. but you can open up konsole, and do, sudo dpkg --reconfigure <package name here>05:45
draiklucas, yes05:45
draiksorry, forgot that last part05:45
tkexcitatory: thanks I'll give that a try05:45
ironfroggywait a second. enabling smooth scrolling fixes the problem, but werent you suggesting that i _disable_ it?05:45
excitatoryironfroggy: you said you wanted to quicken the scroll rate, no?05:46
jontydogdraik: the only account I have on this machine is the one I log in with05:46
draiklucas, did that work for you?05:46
excitatoryironfroggy: it slows it down for me.. making it appear smoother05:46
jontydogand user pass doesn't work05:46
draikjontydog, try with that username/PW05:46
draikoh ok05:46
tkdpkg: unknown option --reconfigure05:46
lucasdraik: no :(05:46
lucasdraik: there is no option for the kmenu05:46
Gh0st75draik: psychocats i believe is the site, found lots of tutorials there when googling various linux beginner issues05:46
excitatorytk: ack, my bad.. sudo dpkg-reconfigure <package>05:47
tkahh its just configure05:47
jontydogthis is driving me mad as it is only this that is stopping me from getting rid of xp off this machine05:47
tkohh05:47
draikgh0st75, LOL... thought psychocats was a nick... whoops!!!05:47
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excitatoryjontydog: what's the problem?05:47
Gh0st75heh05:47
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CaBlGuYwell, I've got the latest install of Java and frostwire is still saying that I need the "latest" Java client..05:48
CaBlGuY:/05:48
excitatoryCaBlGuY: one sec, i know what's up05:49
CaBlGuYokey dokey05:49
lucasdraik: maybe the manual way? kickerrc?05:49
draiklucas, I think that it depends on the type of icons you have set for your K Menu that matter... if you have your K Menu is set for small icons change the small icon size and etc05:49
shadeofgreyhey everybody05:49
Gh0st75anyhoo, gone to bed, away til the morning05:49
Gh0st75night all05:49
shadeofgreyhow do i add an icon that indicates my network activity to a panel05:49
draiknight gh0st7505:49
tkexcitatory: doesnt give me the option to add config options just... returns to cmd line05:50
excitatoryCaBlGuY: run this, then try frostwire: sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-1.5.0-sun05:50
CaBlGuYok, brb05:50
shadeofgreytheres a really great one in ubuntu on gnome but i havent been able to find the kde equivelant to it05:50
draikshadeofgrey, I use superkaramba to show me the network activity05:50
shadeofgreyand damn this new keyboard is sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet05:50
draikI use KDE05:50
shadeofgreyoooo05:50
excitatorytk: oh.. you just want to configure an app?  generally there's a specific config file for the app in /etc.. but each application is different.. what app are you attempting to configure?05:51
shadeofgreysuperkaramba is that thing that can make my entire system act like os x tiger -- with a full dock and everything huh?05:51
lucasdraik: nvm05:51
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tktrying to get amarok to use a newer xine engine05:51
draikmake sure you have multiverse enabled in your repos and download "superkaramba" and then go to http://www.kde-look.org and get SystemCheck for Karamba and you'll be all set05:51
draiklucas, did you get it?05:52
CaBlGuYLooks like it's workin..  thanks excitatory..  ;)05:52
shadeofgreycan somebody guide me through how to get superkramba to make my machine look like os-x?05:52
excitatorytk: heh.. yea.. to do that is completely unrelated to what you've been asking me05:52
jontydogexcitatory: my problem is I have set up a samba network on this machine and can't connect to it from my xp machines05:53
draikSysinfo for 'Lair': Linux 2.6.15-26-686 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)4CPU3.20GHz at 3216 MHz (6432 bogomips), , RAM: 1246/3031MB, 99 proc's, 9.37h up05:53
excitatoryCaBlGuY: yea, no prob :D05:53
lucasdraik: nope05:53
Hawkwindshadeofgrey: Superkaramba is a system applet.  Has nothing to do with making your system look like OS-X05:53
jontydogwell I can connect to it but its asking me for a user name and password05:53
excitatorytk: what version of amarok are you running?05:53
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windthanks excitatory for the password thing05:53
excitatorywind: ^__^05:54
tkexcitatory: the one before beta. 1.4.0 or 1.4.105:54
winddo you know how to automatically connect to a wireless router? and to get rid of the password to access the wireless networks05:54
wind(not the WEP)05:54
Hawkwindtk: dpkg -l amarok to find out the version05:54
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windwhen i try to open the wireless assistant it asks for a pw05:54
tk1.4.105:54
excitatorytk: well, right now the only xine that's in the kubuntu reps is 1.1.1.. do you need a later version?05:54
tkexcitatory: the newer one supports FLAC05:55
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ironfroggyexcitatory: well the problem was that firefox wasnt keeping up with the scroll events, so after i stopped scrolling, it kept going to catch up. i thought having it scroll further per event would mean it would scroll faster and would keep up with me. but smooth scrolling seems to work perfect.05:55
excitatorytk: well, technically flac has been supported for a long time.. there's just a flac bug in 1.1.105:55
tkahh05:55
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excitatorywind: um.. honestly i'm not sure.. i don't use wireless.. i find the signal too abrasive for my consciousness and thus have never played around with it.  but i'm sure if you ask around.. the answer will come.  good luck.05:57
windanyone know? :)05:57
excitatoryironfroggy: excellent, i'm glad it worked out..05:57
excitatorytk: ok..one sec on that.05:57
ironfroggythanks for (accidently?) helping05:58
tkexcitatory: ok05:59
CaBlGuYexit05:59
CaBlGuYoops..05:59
CaBlGuY:p05:59
CaBlGuYlets try that again..05:59
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excitatorytk: well, currently kubuntu does not have 1.1.2 backported yet into dapper..06:02
excitatorytk: however..06:02
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archangel_how do I find out if there is another adept running?06:02
tkyes?06:03
gekko`archangel_: ps ax | grep adept06:03
excitatorytk: some kind fellow on the forums has patched xine and released it as a deb.. download the deb he has listed as no. 1, sudo dpkg -i <name of deb>, restart amarok, and you should be set.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1252222&postcount=1706:03
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wweaselGuys, I recently switched to Swiftfox and set my default browser to Swiftfox.  I use KMess for MSN, and it still opens all of its external links in Firefox.  Anyone know how I can fix that? (I use Gnome, not KDE, but the folks in #ubuntu said that ppl here might know better cause it's a KDE app)06:03
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Bbettomy joystick only detect 4 botons, but is of 8 botons, what hapend?06:05
archangel_Gecko: thanks now how do I force them to stop?06:06
excitatorywweasel: well, the problem is that in kde, you set things like the default browser system wide, and ever k app follows this..  most apps have individual settings to override this.. but it appears kmess does not.. at least from the gui.. i'm checking for some other config.06:06
DFMwind, when it ask for a pw it means the one you set up initially when you created your account06:07
excitatorywweasel: i think you should be able to edit something in ~/.kde to force all of your k apps to use swiftfox.06:07
windi know06:07
windi want it to stop asking me everytime i open it06:07
DFMand you are saying that it doesn't work?06:07
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windi just want it to automatically connect without me having to open network assistant and click on the network06:08
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wweaselexcitatory: Ah, that makes sense.  Gnome's default browser is set to swiftfox, but KDE apps follow something different...06:08
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DFMYou have to connect the first time and then after that it picks it up or at least it does for me06:08
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windwith kubuntu?06:08
windaround my neighborhood there are about 5-7 different networks06:08
DFMyes on a thinkpad, an old one at that06:09
DFMyours should be the strongest06:09
DFMI have two near me and i always pick up mine with out any trouble06:09
DFMhowever when I moved my card to the other slot w/o thinking it prompted me to use lan assistant again06:10
windnothing connects until i open network assistant, enter my pw then click on my network06:10
imbrandon_knetworkmanager06:10
imbrandon_try that06:10
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archangel_how can I force a program to stop?06:10
Bbettowhere can i find information about joystick in ubuntu?06:10
imbrandon_Bbetto: what kind of info ?06:10
imbrandon_archangel_: kill -9 <pid>06:11
Bbettoinstalation, configuration, etc06:11
excitatorywweasel: i'm still looking for the config file.. i know, for instance, you could install kcontrol and set it there.. but i'm looking for the config file so you don't have to.06:11
archangel_kill -9 <adept>    ?06:11
imbrandon_Bbetto: depends on the joystick, 90% of them plugin and they work, you config them on a per appp basis06:12
imbrandon_archangel_: no find adept pid ( ps ax ) then kill -9 <pid_num>06:12
imbrandon_or " sudo killall adept "06:13
wweaselexcitatory: I appreciate that alot. If in the end it is too big a hassle, I can just install kcontrol.06:13
excitatorywweasel: no it's easy.. i'm just having a brain freeze and cannot think of the name06:14
archangel_imbrandon_:  thanks06:14
imbrandon_excitatory: what ya looking for ?06:14
baskoimbrandon_: fixed it!06:15
excitatoryimbrandon_: default browser config setting06:15
excitatorywweasel is a gnome user, but uses kmess, and it's not opening his default browswer.. so i thought he could manually set it in a kde config file somewhere06:16
imbrandon_excitatory: kmenu --> run "kcontrol" --> choose KDE Components ---> Default Applications06:16
excitatoryimbrandon_ ^^06:16
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excitatoryimbrandon_: i told him worst case, kcontrol would work, but i was hoping to avoid having to install that06:16
baskoimbrandon_: go in /var/lib/dpkg/ and remove the entries dealing with the particular program from the files status, status-old, available, and availabe-old... Just remove the whole block...Example my prob was jedit edit. search for it in these files and remove the block of text that describes the package06:17
imbrandon_when a kde app is installed you can still use kcontrol , its good to install it anyhow to theme his kmess like gtk06:17
baskoimbrandon_: thanks guys for helping me solve this...06:17
wweaselexciatory: I think it might be one of the files in ~/.kde/share/config06:17
imbrandon_basko: np06:17
baskoexcitatory: thanks man06:17
excitatorywweasel: well, there you have it ^^.. looks like it would make more sense to install kcontrol, since you could also set kmess to look more like your gnome apps..06:18
excitatorybasko: yea, no prob :D06:18
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baskoexcitatory: so if anyone has this sort of problem..just let them know of that simple solution :)06:18
excitatorywweasel: i know.. it's in ~/.kde/share/config *somewhere*06:18
baskoexcitatory: l8r guys06:18
baskol8r guys06:18
imbrandon_excitatory: that and you have to be totaly out of X to edit things in .kde manualy and have them "stick"06:18
wweaselexciatory: but there are a few of them there and I don't know which  and where :P06:18
wweaselimbrandon_: COuldn't I just use a TTY?06:19
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imbrandon_wweasel: you could then next time it was restarted it would reset, it saves on exit06:19
excitatorywweasel: no, session manager saves settings06:19
imbrandon_thus its better to use kcontrol06:19
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excitatoryyea.. and like imbrandon_ said, you can setup your qt apps theme to look more like your gtk apps06:20
imbrandon_if you have kmess installed then you have most the kdelibs , kcontol isnt much more06:20
excitatorywweasel: you can always install it, set it, then remove it when you're done06:20
excitatoryif you feel it's bloating your system06:20
excitatory(but if you're worried about that, i would remove gnome.. heh heh.. just kidding..;))06:20
imbrandon_lol06:21
imbrandon_ok brb afk a while06:21
wweaselimbrandon_, excitatory: :D no, I'm not worried about it. I'm already installing it. Thanks so much for the help.06:21
imbrandon_food time06:21
excitatoryimbrandon_: later dude, thanks for the help06:21
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excitatorywweasel: of course!06:21
tkexcitatory: it worked, thanks06:21
waggle7622frackWhen I go to K Menu>System Settings>Sharing>File Sharing and click Administrator Mode, type either my password or root password, the settings are greyed out and I can't change anything. Am I missing something?06:22
excitatorytk: ah excellent.. good to hear.06:22
Bbettofor kmess i need java?06:22
excitatoryBbetto: doubtful.. why do you say that?06:22
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KaiHanarihow do i globally set a variable? so that if i set it in one terminal, any processes running can read the change i made? export seems to only affect the current terminal...06:23
Bbettois only a question06:23
excitatoryBbetto: no, just a simple qt app06:23
Bbettook06:23
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mike___Help....06:24
excitatorywaggle7622frack: install this, then try: kdenetwork-filesharing06:24
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mike___I just gavemy brother a new flat panel monitor and it's having trouble.06:24
mike___Kubuntu 6.0606:24
mike___nforce206:25
excitatorymike___: please be more specific..'trouble' means nothing to us06:25
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mike___Text shimmers when there is mouse is moved or hard drive is being accessed.06:25
Hawkwindmike___: Did he have a monitor on the system already and you simply replaced it ?06:25
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mike___Yes, CRT to LCD.06:25
Hawkwindmike___: Then you need to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:26
Hawkwindmike___: The refresh rates are probably still being used for the CRT and you need to setup xorg for the new monitor06:26
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mike___I'06:26
mike___ll try it.06:26
excitatorymike___: but use sudo before that command06:26
waggle7622frackexcitatory i already have the newest version06:26
Hawkwindmike___: Yeah, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:26
excitatorywaggle7622frack: install samba smbfs, too i believe06:29
excitatorysorry06:29
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excitatoryphew.. that was an intense round of Q & A06:30
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mike___Oh, good, it actually sees that name on the monitor now.06:30
mike___I guess it's time to restart X.06:30
mike___I'll be back with a report.  heh06:31
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proudfoot_RAWR06:32
mike___Same problem.06:32
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mike___1280x1024, 60Hz as recommended by the manufacturer.06:33
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mike___nv card, nv driver06:33
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excitatorymike___: have you considered installing the nvidia drivers?06:34
mike___Tried.06:34
excitatorymight do it for you..06:34
excitatorymike___: and?06:34
mike___The xorg.conf that it writes doesn't allow kdm to start.06:34
excitatorymike___: how did you install them?06:34
mike___I ran their script.06:35
mike___,run files.06:35
mike___Also tried nvidia-xconfig06:35
mike___I think the monitor was fine on my computer, but maybe I didn't look close enough.06:35
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excitatorymike___: ack.. no no no.. don't do that.. follow this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia06:36
mike___OK06:36
waggle7622frackexcitatory: that installed smbldap-tools with errors: account_policy_get: tdb_fetch_uint32 failed for field 1-10 But it worked. Thank you!06:36
excitatorywaggle7622frack: odd.. i have no idea wtf that error is or even remotely means..but glad it worked.. :D06:37
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clemonsAfter some startups my sound doesn't work in kubuntu, i've noticed that it always lists my nonfunctional onboard audio first in kmix when the sound isn't working06:37
clemons(the other one is first when it is)06:37
clemonsDoes this mean kubuntu is trying to use my crappy video card?06:38
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archangel__help ........ I booted using a previous kernal version, now I cant get on the net. Whats the deal?06:38
clemonsarchangel__: did you compile the kernel or something?06:39
excitatoryarchangel__: you're on the net now?  what's the problem?06:39
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archangel__lol, obviously on another pc06:39
excitatoryidk.. wasn't obvious to me.06:39
Hawkwindarchangel__: You need to reinstall the wireless drivers if you're using wireless06:39
clemonsarchangel__: if you compiled it, make sure you enabled the TCP/IP + network card driver06:39
archangel__I have a laptop beside me06:39
excitatorythe way you worded it06:39
archangel__I did nothing but boot a previous version06:40
excitatoryarchangel__: and why are you booting a previous version.. is something wrong with the current version?06:40
mike___I think maybe I need the glx-legacy package.06:41
excitatoryclemons: is this a sound issue or video card issue, or both?06:41
archangel__not using wireless at the moment (brothers laptop) I use cable and plug up to the eithernet06:41
clemonsclemons: sound card06:41
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clemonserr06:41
clemonsexcitatory*06:41
excitatoryok06:41
archangel__excitatory: yeah, it wont boot at all normally06:41
clemonsSometimes my sound works06:41
wweaselexcitatory: I installed kControl, it mostly worked, but there is still something I need to change. I know you're helping someone else now, so I'll wait my turn and explain fully then.06:41
clemonsI'd just like to not have to roll dice to get it to work06:41
excitatorywweasel: nah, go on..06:42
excitatoryclemons: yea.. i dig..06:42
archangel__excitatory: bro pulled the plug on it when it was 98% done upgrading the kernal, now it wont boot without a previous version06:42
excitatoryclemons: can you disable the old one in the bios?06:42
clemonsI could try06:42
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excitatoryarchangel__: what a punk..alright..i better understand your plight now..06:43
excitatoryok..well06:43
clemonsI guess I will go try that06:43
excitatoryclemons: good luck06:43
wweaselexcitatory: I did kControl > KDE Components > Component Chooser > Web Browser and set it to open in swiftfox. It works perfectly for links that a contact sends me in an IM in KMess, which used to open up Firefox as well. However, if I click on the "you have 1 new message" link in the KMess window it is still opening firefox. not sure why.06:43
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archangel__excitatory: it gets better............... this laptop is the MAIN pc running a kids camp starting TOMORROW06:44
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chemahi06:44
excitatoryarchangel__: yea.. no worries.. it's fixable for sure..i'm just thinking of the most painless way to do this06:44
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archangel__cool06:45
warbringer87Hi06:45
usuario_the modules load the tulip and dmfe but the correct is dmfe howto change the modules.autoload?06:45
warbringer87anyone here know what a Disk Boot Failure is?06:45
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archangel__excitatory: I'm a newbie so talk to me like I'm a retard                       lol06:46
excitatoryarchangel__: well.. worst-case-scenario you can log in, back up you home, and reinstall..  so yea..would you prefer to log in from a live cd, mount that drive, then chroot in, and reload a new kernel.. or do think we would have better luck fixing the networking on the working kernel06:46
excitatoryis it wireless?06:47
excitatorywweasel: hrm..interesting..06:47
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archangel__excitatory: I am out of the range of the network, but I can plug in my connection06:48
archangel__excitatory: this is my bro laptop06:48
excitatoryarchangel__: so on th eworking kernel.. does any networking work.. or is it just wireless. or?06:49
draikanyone know how to undo a recent install...06:49
draik?06:49
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draikI just installed a bootsplash and it's not working and it lags my boot time06:50
tkadept gives you the option to remove install's if you used adept or dkpg i believe06:50
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excitatorywweasel: this may seem silly, but since you've configured the default browser, have you restarted kmess?06:50
draiktk, the install was done in konsole06:50
archangel__I cant tell if the wireless works, however I plug in my connection (ethernet) and it wont go to the web06:50
Jucatohi draik!06:51
wweaselexcitatory: no, actually, it worked with the links so I didn't think of it. silly of me...let me try that.06:51
draikHEY JUCATO06:51
excitatorydraik: can't you just remove it?06:51
draikexcitatory, that's what I'm trying to find... a simple uninstall... so far no luck06:51
archangel__excitatory: I cant tell if the wireless works, however I plug in my connection (ethernet) and it wont go to the web06:51
excitatorydraik: well, do you use aptitude or apt-get?  either way, it's sudo aptitude remove <package name>06:52
excitatorydraik: or apt-get if you use that..06:52
Jucatodraik: what's going on?06:52
draikdidn't use any06:52
archangel__excitatory: adept wont start cause it tells me that an instance is already running (from a fresh restart) so I'm confused about that06:52
excitatorydraik: then what do you use to install packages?06:53
draikJucato, I installed a bootsplash that is lagging my boot time and not at all working06:53
draikit comes with its own ./inst file06:53
draiksorry, it's './usplash'06:53
excitatoryarchangel__: open konsole, sudo dpkg --configure -a06:53
draikI got it from kde-look.org06:53
archangel__k06:53
Jucatodraik: err... KDE-look now has USplash themes? that's new...06:54
draiklet me get you the direct link to my bootsplash06:54
excitatorydraik: go to the page on kde-look where you got it from.. usually they list uninstall instructions.. otherwise look at the docs/readme.. generally teh script will be able to remove what it did.06:54
draikhttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=3737906:55
draikno docs/readme in the download06:55
Jucatodraik: have you tried "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so" to choose the old bootsplash?06:55
draikhow do I know what it installed and where06:55
wweaselexcitatory: Restarting KMess didn't fix it, but I found what did. The e-mail link wasn't actually a URL, it was opening an html file, and I had to set Swiftfox as the default for HTML files too.06:55
Jucatoa USplash theme, that's a first...06:56
draikI will now, Jucato06:56
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Jucatodraik: after that, I think you need to do an extra step to reconfigure initrd. let me check it out06:56
draikI don't think so, I recall something about it not touching my grub and possibly something about my initrd06:57
archangel__excitatory: I guess its done... I never got my prompt back06:57
draikor anything init06:57
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draikJucato, where did you get that information from?06:57
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Jucatodraik: well I'm not really sure. but sometimes, just using update-alternatives doesn't seem to work, so the extra step is needed.06:57
clemonsThank you, that fixed it, although i'd have still liked to have known how to do it otherwise06:57
draikoic06:57
Jucatooh, my bad, not initrd06:58
Jucatobut initramfs...06:58
Jucatosudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)06:58
JucatoI got it from both the wikis and from ubuntuforums.06:58
Jucatolet me check for the exact post06:58
draikThank you Jucato06:59
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draikThank you excitatory for your help too06:59
nick_Much love for Kubuntu!07:00
archangel__excitatory: whats the next step?       Sorry dude. I know your busy.07:00
excitatorydraik: ok..07:00
excitatorydraik: if you reverse-engineer the script.. it should fix it..07:01
excitatorydraik: sudo ln -sf /usr/lib/usplash/kubuntu-splash.so /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-artwork.so && sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)07:01
excitatorydraik: run that07:01
draikWill do07:01
excitatorywweasel: ah.. good detective work..07:02
Jucatodraik: this post: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1104903&postcount=6 from this thread: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=110490307:02
excitatoryarchangel__: well.. is adept working again?07:03
maltaethiron!skype07:03
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto07:03
archangel__excitatory: wow, machine running super slow07:04
draikBRB fellas.. ReBoot!07:05
Jucatodraik: wishing you luck!07:05
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excitatoryarchangel__: which one.. the one you're on..or the broken one..idk..sorry..this is rather confusing.07:06
archangel__excitatory: crap I guess I should connected it to the net first via ethernet, eh?   lol07:06
excitatoryhehe07:06
archangel__excitatory: sorry, I mean the laptop07:06
excitatoryand the laptop is which machine.. the broken one?  (sorry..multi-tasking has it's shorcummings)07:07
archangel__excitatory: sorry I am on mine. I am fixing my bro's    all reference goes to his (laptop)07:07
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excitatoryarchangel__: ok07:08
tkim having problems installing JRE ... it prompts for an OK to accept the EULA but but I cant click/enter it using Adept....07:08
draikWOOHOO07:08
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Jucatodraik: it worked?07:08
archangel__excitatory: in order to connect to the web, I have to disconnect my cable and plug it in the laptop07:08
draikThank you Jucato and excitatory... I'm full of fixed07:08
mike___So...which modules should I load by default in xorg?07:08
Jucatodraik: glad to hear that07:09
draikJucato, it worked beautifully07:09
draikno errors, no lags07:09
Jucato:-D07:09
mike___I'm thinking I should remove "dri" for the nvidia driver.07:09
draik|:-)07:10
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excitatorytk: open konsole.. type in this: sudo apt-get install libqt-perl && sudo dpkg-reconfigure debconf07:11
excitatorytk: then retry your install07:11
excitatorydraik: awesome07:11
draikoh yes, thank you too excitatory07:12
excitatoryno, you mentioned me..07:12
excitatoryit's all good..it's what community is about07:12
draikwell, at least this community07:12
draikthis community = linux07:13
excitatoryit's more wide-spread than you think07:13
Jucatohmm...07:13
excitatoryoutside of linux even07:13
tkexcitatory: thanks again, installed JRE from cmd line07:13
excitatorynp07:14
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draikMy community (neighborhood) doesn't like me much... something about my driving and obscene gestures I give them from the faces/looks they give me07:14
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niklazI need help with Konversation.07:14
niklazAnybody available?07:14
Jucatohmm... 2 things you shouldn't install using Adept: VMWare Player and Sun Java (sun-java5)07:14
draikniklaz, what's the problem?07:15
Jucatoniklaz: what is it?07:15
excitatoryarchangel__: sorry.. so are you saying you have to leave for a bit.. or that we can't do this because you wont have a net connection?07:15
niklazIt won't let me connect to Rizon.07:15
mike___excitatory: I can describe a problem better.07:15
excitatoryJucato: um.. it's only the best irc app for kde :D07:15
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niklazI'm not doing anything I didn't do to connect to freenode, so that's why I'm confused.07:15
mike___excitatory: When I move a window, the screen seems to move to the left a little.07:15
excitatoryniklaz: rizon?07:16
niklazYeah.07:16
Jucatoexcitatory: err.. I was asking what niklaz's problem was... @_@07:16
niklazirc.rizon.net07:16
niklazlol.07:16
tkexcitatory: i dont suppose you can tell me how to get JAR files to get exectured now that JRE Is installed?07:16
archangel__excitatory: adept now works and loads updates, however I cannot bring up a webpage07:16
draikniklaz, you have to set that up with your servers07:16
niklazI did.07:16
niklazOne second and I'll tell you what it says.07:16
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draikok07:17
niklazOh wtf it connected..07:17
niklazNevermind.07:17
niklazSlow server/07:17
niklaz*?07:17
draikthe power of linux07:17
mike___excitatory: as I continue to move the window, the screen moves back and forth quickly from the original position to the left a little.07:17
excitatoryyea freenode does that too07:17
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mike___SHould I try booting from the CD?07:17
niklazWell, thanks anyway guys.. I'm off to leech some files.07:17
mike___Live mode?07:17
Jucatofreenode has been laggy lately... at least on my side07:17
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excitatorymike___: so is the cable securely plugged into the back of the computer?07:17
[Nige] hey all07:18
mike___excitatory: yes.07:18
[Nige] anyone got a logitech lx700 keyboard working with kubuntu?07:18
mike___excitatory: Uh, I noticed that when I changed to the nv driver, the resolution was low, but the movement didn't happen.07:18
excitatorytk: hrm.. not sure.. i rarely use java.. sorry.. perhaps #java can help?07:18
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excitatorymike___: you're on the nvidia driver now?07:19
tk/j #azureus07:19
tkwoops07:19
mike___excitatory: yes.07:19
excitatorymike___: i'd be interested in knowing what the 'vesa' driver would produce.07:19
mike___excitatory: now I see the motion is more like a wave.07:19
archangel__excitatory:  will the laptop boot with the right kernal now?07:19
mike___excitatory: I did try it.  I'll try it again.07:19
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niklazlol soft..07:20
excitatoryarchangel__: if you installed a new kernel, it should..   if there's two versions still on your system when you reboot.. it will give you a choice, and by default, 5 seconds to choose.. just select the higher number if that happens.07:21
archangel__excitatory: oh, I wasnt sure if the commands you gave me to put in konsole did that or not07:22
excitatoryniklaz: so what's rizon all about.. any good channels?07:22
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excitatoryniklaz: a /list spits out a lot of warez and pr0n channels .. heh.07:23
archangel__excitatory: the wierd thing is that adept works now and even fetches updates, but why cant firefox grab a webpage?07:23
excitatoryarchangel__: that is quite odd.07:23
excitatoryarchangel__: do this07:23
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excitatoryarchangel__: in konsole, type, ping -c 3 www.google.com07:24
archangel__k07:24
excitatoryarchangel__: tell me if it appears to find google07:24
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excitatoryarchangel__: you should see something like this: 64 bytes from 64.233.161.99: icmp_seq=1 ttl=240 time=28.9 ms07:25
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archangel__excitatory: "bad number of packets to trasmit"07:25
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excitatoryarchangel__: is this is a new install?07:26
archangel__excitatory: 2 months07:26
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tkexcitatory: found it, helps to run the EXEC file instead of the jar file ;)07:27
excitatoryarchangel__: well, this does not make sense.. adept could NOT update if your machine cannot even ping google..07:27
excitatorytk: excellent07:27
niklazDoes anybody here use the 32-bit firefox?07:28
tkyup07:28
excitatoryniklaz: yea, most here probably do07:29
archangel__excitatory: I click on fetch updates and I see the progress bar go from 0% to 100% and the page fill with all kinds of files07:29
excitatoryarchangel__: ok, try to install an app.. how about kteatime07:29
excitatorymmm...tea07:29
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niklazEh, well, I installed it and when I switched to kubuntu I lost all my taskbar shortcuts and I can't remember where I put it at.. is it specific from the firefox that's already on ubuntu/kubuntu07:30
niklaz?07:30
archangel__k07:30
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niklazI guess I can safely assume that's a nooo..07:31
excitatoryniklaz: that's not making sense07:31
niklazLol.07:31
excitatorykubuntu does not ship with firefox07:31
niklazubuntu does..07:32
excitatoryit's in the repos, so you just have to install the firefox package07:32
niklazAs far as I know..07:32
excitatorywell yea07:32
excitatorythey're one in the same07:32
niklazWell I switched from ubuntu.07:32
excitatoryok, then it's still installed07:32
niklazI can't find my 32-bit firefox nevertheless..07:32
excitatoryunless you did a fresh install07:32
niklaznah, I just changed my session..07:32
archangel__excitatory: after installation, an error popped up......"Could not commit changes"......07:33
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excitatoryalt-f2, type in firefox, enter07:33
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niklazeh, for some reason my f keys aren't working07:33
excitatoryarchangel__: i know nothing of adept.. let's do this.. in konsole, type in, sudo aptitude install kteatime07:34
excitatoryarchangel__: then tell me what happens07:34
niklaztyping firefox in terminal just brings up my 64-bit version07:34
archangel__k07:34
excitatoryniklaz: hrm..07:34
Admiral_Chicagolook for a different run path07:34
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excitatoryniklaz: how did you install the 64-bit version..07:35
niklazum07:35
excitatoryto be honest.. i didn't know two versions existed in the repos07:35
niklazI don't know.07:35
niklazLet me put it this way07:35
niklazOne version works good with flash07:36
niklazone doesn't.07:36
tkniklaz: do you have an F-lock key at all? or a modifier key for "new/save as/undo" etc for your F keys?07:36
niklazno.07:36
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niklazor not that I know of.07:36
niklazwait07:36
niklazwtf07:36
niklazno.07:36
niklaz-_-07:36
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excitatoryangry eyes07:36
niklazor wait07:36
archangel__excitatory: setting up language pack en base07:36
niklazI have f2..07:36
niklazlol07:36
niklazundo..07:36
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niklazit doesn't work either way.07:36
tkniklaz: flash is only 32bit at the moment... you have to use chroot i believe they call it to get it working under 64bit linux07:37
tkniklaz: well the Undo support is software driven (for windows generally) you need to figure out how to turn off the extended F key options to get your normal F keys to work (I have extended F keys and I always have to try F keys twice to make sure I got them disabled)07:38
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excitatoryarchangel__: and what does, 'sudo apt-get update' do.. (should run through a list of repos, and appear to be updating)07:38
tkniklaz: mine is simple though.. next to F1 I have F-lock07:38
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niklazit doesn't help I use a microsoft keyboard, eh? :P07:38
archangel__excitatory: still going through a list of language packs07:39
excitatoryarchangel__: wtf.. from the kteatime install?07:39
tkniklaz: logitech here :P Dinova Media desktop :)07:39
archangel__excitatory: yes07:40
excitatoryniklaz: no, the penguins don't like it very much. :)07:40
niklazlol.07:40
archangel__excitatory: going through every language known to man07:41
niklazI'm quite new to linux so I've having a hard time with some things.07:41
excitatoryarchangel__: copy/paste one of the lines..07:41
tkniklaz: i used it back int he day... and I'm having hell with using a GUI and package managers07:42
tkhavent touched it for years though07:42
niklazlinux?07:43
tkya07:43
tkmy old computer couldnt run KDE or gnome :P07:43
niklazlol07:44
tkwell when I used linux before07:44
niklazI wish I could find my working firefox..07:44
warbringer87here goes my second try with a linux distro07:44
Admiral_Chicagoniklaz, did you try /home/user/.mozilla/ ?07:44
tkniklaz: have you tried /usr/sbin/mozilla-firefox?07:44
warbringer87ubuntu was fun, kubuntu seemed more interesting :)07:44
Admiral_Chicagowarbringer87, what was it before?07:44
niklaz:O07:44
niklazgive me a sec.07:44
warbringer87ubuntu07:44
Admiral_Chicagokubuntu is ubuntu, just with a different desktop manager....07:44
warbringer87i had it for a bit, but then i heard that dapper was imminent07:45
warbringer87so i uninstalled it07:45
draikI'm surprised to find that Kubuntu would run on my old laptop... it came with winme... oh the endless swearing that came after that07:45
Admiral_Chicagodapper is awesome07:45
tkerr its /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox07:45
warbringer87i am looking at itfor the first time now07:45
excitatorywarbringer87: yea.. kubuntu has more feautures, the useability is better overall, and is far more customizeable.  also, gnome apps look good in kde.. but kde apps don't look good in gnome.07:45
warbringer87KDE, i mean07:45
warbringer87hehe07:45
Admiral_Chicagoexcitatory, true dat07:45
warbringer87first things first, get civII and gimp07:46
excitatoryAdmiral_Chicago: no, tru dat07:46
excitatory;)07:46
tkwarbringer87: same here, Ubuntu i tried with this laptop first, then Kubuntu.... Ubuntu worked better out of the box for me, but I need KDE for an app I like and it was a PITA to get working under Ubuntu07:46
Admiral_Chicagofo shizzy07:46
draikoh geez07:46
excitatorydraik: don't front..07:46
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draikIts funny how snoop doggy dogg started all of this and then he went on love line to complain how he doens't like hearing it... funny guy that snoop07:47
niklazI found firefox in a folder but I don't really know how to launch it07:47
niklazthere is a file "firefox.bin"..07:47
warbringer87id love to use it online, but lack of a net connection07:47
excitatoryadmittedly, kubuntu looks like crap out of the box.. but within minutes, you can have it customized and all perdy..07:47
excitatoryjust visually07:47
draikwarbringer87, you're online now :P07:47
Admiral_Chicagowarbringer87, what kind of connectin do you use07:47
warbringer87im on my laptopo07:47
warbringer87my desktop is lying next to me07:47
warbringer87cable, but im on wireless away from the router07:48
excitatorytoo blue, and the kicker is too big, and i don't like it at the bottom.. and i prefer a separate taskbar07:48
warbringer87and the desktop has no card07:48
tkexcitatory: i still have to unplug my bluetooth hub every reboot to get it to work in Kubuntu, in Ubuntu it worked like a charm07:48
tkexcitatory: the funny thing is... it WORKS in grub but once KDE boots... I have to unplug it and replug it07:48
draikwarbringer87, cards are about $10-20, depends where you shop07:48
draikor is it just plain old?07:48
excitatorytk: that really should be.. they use the same software...07:48
warbringer87plain old07:48
draikhow old?07:48
warbringer875 years07:49
warbringer87has 2 PCI, one for the graphics card07:49
archangel__excitatory: its done, it ssaid it set up the libgtk2.0-0 and firefox07:49
warbringer87the other is my only sourceof USB07:49
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warbringer87its a broken down comp that i dont use much07:49
niklaztk: the shell script is what launches it correct?07:49
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warbringer87i dont dare install linux on my laptop07:49
excitatoryarchangel__: hrm.. try firefox now07:49
tkniklaz: firefox? you can launch it by going alt+f2 (or the run command from the menu) and doiing /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox07:50
warbringer87unless I can run maya and photoshop, and 3dsmax on it :P07:50
archangel__k07:50
warbringer87and illustrator :P07:50
excitatorytk: bluetooth is a sketchy technology.. very touch and go from what i understand07:50
niklaztk: nevermind :P07:50
tkexcitatory: works like a charm in Ubuntu, only thing I coudlnt do was run encrypted connections with it07:50
excitatorywarbringer87: what kind of laptop?  you can always dual boot, or run another os through virtualization..07:51
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warbringer87the laptop is an HP pavilion, zd800007:52
excitatorywarbringer87: i will admit.. some laptops, especially some of the centrinos, should really not have linux on them.. too many issues currently..  but don't blame linux.. blame the hardware manufacturers for doing everything but cooperate with the oss community..07:52
warbringer87256 mb ati x600, 1 gb of ram, and 100 gb HD. :P07:52
warbringer87no, this thing is a mobile desktop07:52
draikhere are my laptop specs... enzo07:52
enzoSysinfo for 'Matrix': Linux 2.6.15-26-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: PentiumIII(Coppermine) at 597 MHz (1196 bogomips), , RAM: 237/250MB, 82 proc's, 3.11d up07:52
warbringer87http://www.xfire.com/profile/warbringer87 <- scroll alllll the way down to see specs07:53
warbringer87thats my laptop07:53
Admiral_Chicagoxfire....07:53
excitatoryenzo: i was using almost the exact same machine up until this past may.. only with far more ram.  you'd be surprised at how well a PIII will pwn linux..07:53
enzoThis is my laptop from 200007:55
enzoIt came with winme07:55
excitatoryi'm sorry07:55
excitatorywinme was even bad by windows standards07:56
archangel__excitatory: nothing07:56
tkwell my java program is running but I cant see any of the windows contents...07:56
archangel__excitatory: this sucks07:56
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excitatorywarbringer87: i bet that thing just loves to drink your batteries sweet, sweet, juices07:56
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enzoI was barely able to load winxp on this thing07:57
niklazWhat's a good option to add shortcuts/icons/programs on my taskbar without clunking it up?07:57
tkwinMe... better off with 3.11 for workgroups07:57
enzowhen I did, I only used it for IMs while I was working to buy parts to build my own desktop07:57
enzowhich is my draik desktop07:57
GullyFoyleliveCD won't work, alternate won't work, i think i have to reinstall breezy and upgrade to dapper. amd 64 is a b****07:58
niklazo_o07:58
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draikSysinfo for 'Lair': Linux 2.6.15-26-686 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)4CPU3.20GHz at 3216 MHz (6431 bogomips), , RAM: 506/3031MB, 103 proc's, 51.31min up07:58
niklazgullyfoyle: my works just fine.07:58
Admiral_Chicagoniklaz, you can just hide a panel...07:58
niklazo_O07:58
Admiral_ChicagoGullyFoyle, i installed it just fine07:58
niklazI still want to be able to see it.07:58
GullyFoyleniklaz: did you install from liveCD?07:58
niklazerr, yes.07:58
Admiral_Chicagoyes07:59
Admiral_Chicagoniklaz, nvm i dont think i know what you mean07:59
niklazlol.07:59
niklazI seem to have confusing questions.07:59
GullyFoylemine the mouse jumps around and it locks the screen07:59
niklazwhat video card do you have? o_o07:59
GullyFoylenvidia geforce08:00
Admiral_Chicagoah I had that happen on my computer but I got it to work eventually08:00
warbringer87excitatory: it does suck the battery08:00
warbringer87i get an hour at most08:00
warbringer87im never without my adapter08:00
warbringer87hmm, i just had a thought08:01
warbringer87could i connect to the net via my laptop08:01
warbringer87's wireless connection?08:01
GullyFoylecan't find a distro that will run amd6408:01
warbringer87windows xp pro on the laptop, kubutnu dapper on the desktop08:01
enzoGullyFoyle, you're not looking hard enough08:01
niklazubuntu wouldn't work on my system till dapper drake08:02
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niklaznow it works great.08:02
enzowarbringer87, that's how I had it for a while, now they are both Kubuntu Dapper Drake08:02
niklazI have amd64bit 3200+08:02
niklazSiss760 chipset.. or w/e08:02
GullyFoylei've tried rr64 linux, kubuntu, kanotix, etc.. none of them will run no matter what i do08:02
warbringer87well, i cant exactly replace windows XP now :)08:02
warbringer87but if its possible, id love to do it08:02
enzodual boot08:02
warbringer87ill think about it08:03
enzoI dual boot my laptop and desktop, just in case someone needs to use my computer for something and such08:03
enzoits well worth it08:03
enzoand if you need help with it, let me know08:03
warbringer87not tonight, in the middle of finals >8D08:03
enzoIf I'm not here, this channel will be and someone will definitely be here to help08:04
warbringer87but ill be in here now and again08:04
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warbringer87figured I would plug my site. Anyone here seeking a career in the game industry?08:04
niklazI'm 16.08:04
niklazso nope.08:04
niklaz:_08:04
GullyFoylei had breezy running fine, then u/g'ed to dapper, fixed the probs, now i need to install from scratch and nothing works right. i guess i have to install breezy again and start over.08:04
draikenzo is always on because its my laptop, draik is online when I am physically behind the computer (unless I just stepped away)08:04
warbringer8716. I miss youth.08:05
niklazI'm in a hurry to grow up.08:05
niklaz=\08:05
excitatoryGullyFoyle: gentoo works very well with amd64.. however, it's a sourc-based distro, so you'll be doing a lot of compiling..but you'll learn a lot.. especially patience!08:05
warbringer87and im only 19 >_>08:05
niklazlol.08:05
warbringer87things change fast08:05
draikI'm 2308:05
draikI think08:05
warbringer87dont rush it08:05
excitatoryniklaz: yea.. don't rush08:05
excitatoryit always comes soon enough08:05
warbringer87you have a handful of years to be an idiotic kid08:05
warbringer87USE em08:05
niklaz:O08:06
excitatoryi'm 21, and though i'm full of vitality.. i miss being 1708:06
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draikniklaz, Take our word for it, growing up will flash before your eyes before you even know it happened08:06
warbringer87awkward08:06
GullyFoyleexcitatory: that's why i tried rr64 (sabayon), it's gentoo-derived, but it wouldn't go either08:06
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warbringer87to think I first touched on the internet 6 years ago.08:06
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warbringer87Damn, now I feel old. I certainly feel it.08:06
niklazI've been a long time windows user08:06
niklazand I'm on linux08:06
niklazI feel stupid08:07
niklaz:)08:07
warbringer87My first comp was a Maci ntosh performa in 9208:07
niklazo.o08:07
niklazold stuff.08:07
GullyFoylesheesh, i installed my first linux distro 7 years ago08:07
draikI've been online for about 10 years, this sept08:07
warbringer87not that old compared to what some of these folks had08:07
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excitatoryniklaz: the more you use it, the quicker you'll learn.. you'll be surprised one day, when suddenly everything just makes more sense, and you realise linux is far more intuitive and actually easier to learn in the long run..08:07
warbringer87i got a classmate going with it as well08:07
warbringer87and trying to convine my school to using a linux server08:08
tkwarbringer87: my mother insisted on buying one of those Performa 550's :/08:08
warbringer87SUSE at the very least.08:08
niklazit's the commands and installing that give me problems08:08
draikI wish I could find a linux class as easy as it is to find a win class08:08
warbringer87PERFORMA!08:08
warbringer87kids work 2!08:08
warbringer87writing center08:08
warbringer87lemmings :(08:08
mike___excitatory: The monitor is stable at 1280x960, 75Hz.  But it's designed for 1280x1024, 60Hz.  What do you think?  Crap monitor?08:08
warbringer87spectre challenger >8D08:08
draiklemmings... LOL08:08
tklemmings! yes I loved that :)08:08
warbringer87i found it online08:08
GullyFoylemicros*** has held the computing world back a few years08:08
warbringer87windows only, of course08:08
niklazOkay, I'm have more konversation problems x_x08:08
archangel__excitatory: am I facing an install?08:09
draikok niklaz08:09
warbringer87i recall a while back they announced that the PC's life was running out08:09
draikbut this is the last one :p08:09
SakirethI just ate a delicious pie!08:09
SakirethAnd she was called chantal!08:09
warbringer87mmmm08:09
warbringer87pi08:09
niklazi don't feel good actually08:09
draik3.142 something something something...08:09
excitatorydraik: yea..but like.. even when you find one.. it's usually only dealing with RedHat or fedora.. and like linux books is far outdated.  oss produces software far quicker than any other model.. and thus it's just best to learn from the community and experience.  maybe a knowledgeable friend08:09
tkspectre challenger I forgot about htat one :D08:09
SakirethAnd chantal said she loved me08:10
SakirethBut i ate her!08:10
warbringer87Oh sweet christ08:10
warbringer87i finally find someone else whos played that08:10
warbringer87some guy did a remake of it08:10
niklazanyway, I'm trying to get a fansub and it says I'm in a certain number08:10
niklazbut it doesn't change08:10
draikvery true excitatory08:10
warbringer87beta still, but keeps trye to it08:10
niklazand I don't know when I'll get the file08:10
excitatorymike___: um.. 75Hz is far better than 60.. if it works better at a higher rate, you're golden.08:10
Sakirethwarbringer87: wha?08:10
warbringer87Spectre CHallenger, old mac game08:10
warbringer87well, a demo08:10
tkwarbringer87: really? got a link to it? I love that 3d wireframed game :)08:10
excitatoryarchangel__: well.. where are you at.. you haven't said anything in a while..08:10
warbringer87i gotta find it08:10
SakirethTonic Trouble!1!11!08:10
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warbringer87oooh08:11
excitatoryyea..:D08:11
warbringer87remember spin doctor?08:11
niklazmy problem is more important than spin doctor08:11
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niklaz>_>08:11
archangel__I had to disconnect my pc to connect the laptop up to the net08:11
SakirethRagnarok Online! =D08:11
tkspin doctor... sounds familiar yes :)08:11
archangel__excitatory: all to no avail08:11
tkthats the flipping tiles game right?08:11
warbringer87http://www.applematters.com/index.php/forums/viewthread/487/08:12
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warbringer87spin doctor is the spinning lines on dots08:12
mike___excitatory: the thing is, it won't work at the recommended resolution.  The current resolution makes the screen look slightly too tall.08:12
tkoh yah!08:12
excitatoryarchangel__: well..was there a lot of customization, and/or files you had setup/saved?08:12
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excitatorymike___: oh..didn't catch that.. yea.. 960 is not ideal at all08:12
draikperformas???08:12
SakirethIf roses are meant to be read08:13
SakirethAnd violets are meant to be blue XD08:13
SakirethLost! Draik is lost in this world, lalalalalaa08:13
archangel__my bro actually, and this is the laptop that is holding ALL the files and info for kids camp that starts tomorrow08:13
warbringer87nvrmnd, broken links08:13
mike___excitatory: the other 1280x? setting won't switch.08:13
ironfroggyany ideas why i can print from kde apps but not from firefox?08:13
Sakirethironfroggy: Firefox doesn't use kprint08:14
Sakirethironfroggy: Set up CUPS08:14
excitatorymike___: well, before you determine if it's crap, i would test it on a second pc.. i still think something is not setup right in your xorg config.. you're using the nvidia drivers and set it up according to that guide i sent you?08:14
warbringer87http://www.the-underdogs.info/game.php?gameid=1023 <- spectre08:14
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excitatorymike___: what about 1024x768?08:14
SakirethKDE is a bit slow at the moment. how come?08:14
excitatorySakireth: just suddenly..or?08:15
Sakirethexcitatory: Just suddenly08:15
mike___excitatory: 1024x768 is fine.  Yes, I've tried just about everything so far.08:15
SakirethEverything pops up slowly08:15
excitatorymike___: what size monitor is it?08:15
SakirethEven konsole takes some time to load08:15
ironfroggySakireth: i am using cuips08:15
niklazsounds like you need a restart... :O08:15
Sakirethdirect rendering: Yes08:16
mike___excitatory: 17".  Interesting.  1152x864 is wavy too.08:16
ironfroggykprint is using my cups printer08:16
excitatorySakireth: again.. just suddenly.. or always?08:16
archangel__I will build you a new pc, you can make the check out to archangel08:16
excitatoryniklaz: this isn't windows..08:16
Sakirethexcitatory: oh, always.08:16
archangel__your new pc will be very fast08:16
Sakirethexcitatory: but not since a time ago08:16
excitatorySakireth: what are you stats?08:16
draikniklaz, reboot08:16
Sakirethexcitatory: where to check?08:16
Sakirethexcitatory: top sucks to me..08:16
mike___excitatory: it seems that the odd setting work and the usual setting do not.08:16
niklazdraik: lol, I didn't know the terms meant were different like that -_-08:17
excitatorydraik: this isn't windows..restarting is rarely necessary08:17
archangel__well, going to bed08:17
archangel__night night08:17
niklazbye.08:17
Sakirethpu(s):  2.7% us,  0.3% sy,  0.0% ni, 96.7% id,  0.0% wa,  0.3% hi,  0.0% si08:17
SakirethMem:    515940k total,   488300k used,    27640k free,    78176k buffers08:17
SakirethSwap:  151006808:17
excitatorySakireth: no.. like tell me about your pc.. what kind of hardware do you have.. if you're using konversation, type /sysinfo in the channel08:17
draikexcitatory, I don't recall every rebooting in either, except for those major updates/installs08:17
Sakirethoh08:17
SakirethSysinfo for 'robin-desktop': Linux 2.6.15-26-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: AMDAthlonXP2600+ at 1919 MHz (3843 bogomips), , RAM: 478/503MB, 95 proc's, 13.20min up08:17
mike___I hate to do this, but I will have to test it under a WinXP PC./08:18
excitatoryhrm.. you shoudl be flyin08:18
excitatorymike___: dude, 1024x768 is FINE under a 17"08:18
excitatoryespecially if it's for your mom08:18
Sakirethexcitatory: LOL!08:18
draikLOL08:18
Sakirethexcitatory: Like moms can't read small letters.08:18
excitatoryi don't mean to imply that..08:19
draikI would say to go with 600 x 40008:19
Sakirethlol08:19
draikI like big icons and I cannot lie...08:19
Sakirethor even better, 80x20008:19
tklmao08:19
Sakirethpda size!!!1!111!!!!08:19
excitatorybut 1280x1024 on a 17" will make anyone squint08:19
mike___excitatory: It's blurry here.  I will try using the monitor on another PC.  I can boot with the Kubuntu CD.  How could I set the resolution in the boot options?08:19
draikLOL08:19
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SakirethYay, my humor is being appreciated here!08:19
SakirethI have entered heaven!08:20
draikSakireth, careful with what you say and you'll be fine08:20
SakirethDraik: Heh.08:20
draikdon't get kick/banned08:20
excitatorymike___: i don't remember, but the boot screen has a help option..  i think the livecd will just pick an optimal level08:20
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CVirushttp://help.ubuntu.com .. down ?08:20
tkmike___: if its blurry and its an LCD it means its not being ran at the optimum reso for that monitor (mine at home likes 1280x1024)08:20
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mike___excitatory: the live CD picked HUGE.  heh  Then I couldn't change it.08:20
excitatoryCVirus: looks like it08:21
niklazum08:21
CVirusexcitatory: thanks08:21
niklazwho was the person that said the default theme for kubuntu was crappy?08:21
excitatorymike___: odd..08:21
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excitatoryniklaz: me08:21
niklazlol, why is that?08:21
excitatoryniklaz: too blue..not even a sexy blue.. just vibrant, primary blue08:22
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excitatoryi also don't like how the kicker is set up08:22
CVirusmost of the distros tend to use crapy themes as the default ones08:22
mike___All right, off to the other PC.08:22
niklazdo you have a screenie of your desktop?08:23
niklazI'd like to see it08:23
CVirusI might want to see that too08:23
excitatoryCVirus: i happen to lik e how ubuntu looks out of the box, but beyond that, it's crap.08:23
CVirusif u dont mind08:23
maltaethironi like the default kubuntu look moreso than the default ubuntu look08:24
niklazCVirus: why are you named CVirus?08:25
niklaz:-)08:25
CVirusniklaz: thats a long story :-p08:25
draikCyrus the Virus?08:25
draikConAir?08:25
CVirusnah08:25
niklazThat was a good movie08:25
draikthat's all I have for thoughts08:25
CVirusits just a windowz virus08:26
draikgoogle, here I come08:26
CVirusi've choosen that nik while i were 11 years old08:26
CVirusnick*08:26
tkits motif or GTK better for java UI?08:26
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tks/its/is08:26
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excitatoryyou guys want a candid shot, or a fancy hardcore linux hax0r screenshot08:27
excitatorylol08:27
draiklol08:27
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CVirushehehe08:28
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pierrethallo08:28
Anjinhaprivet08:29
niklazI just want a shot of.. what things look like08:29
pierrethmy color are all mixed in xfce, how can i change this?08:29
Anjinhapleas, i got a problem08:29
eric__hey i'm new to linux, i was wondering if there are any games on it that aren't circa 1990 or earlier?08:29
tkAnjinha: so spit it out, someone will help if they know how :)08:29
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Anjinhamy mozilla dun play sound when i play movies and mpgs and others08:29
tkAnjinha: i had to download w32 codecs and totem for mozilla to play movies for me...08:30
pierrethi made an install of afterstep and now my colors are wrong08:30
Sakiretheric__: Tremulous, Wolfenstein Enemy Territory, Frenesia...08:30
Sakiretheric__: Glest, and much more08:30
draikLOL08:30
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Sakiretheric__: Go to the ubuntu website, the wiki, and go to the games section08:30
draikI googled CViurs and got "Hepatitis C Virus" ... LOL08:30
SakirethDraik, PM08:30
draik*CVirus08:31
niklazlol08:31
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eric__what are frenesia and glest08:31
eric__?08:31
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Sakirethglest is a 3d strategy game, and frenesia is a nice acarde game with amazing graphics08:32
eric__cool08:32
draikI got into klickety for a while... but then I couldn't beat my score from the first time I played08:32
Sakirethhaha08:32
SakirethT3h Graphics of Teh KDE games R AwFuL08:33
eric__i'm running ubuntu on my notebook, and i haven't really been able to find much as far as power management goes, when i had windows, i coudl get 4hours no problem, but with this it's like 2 1/2 max08:33
Anjinhawhat is totem?08:34
Sakirethexcept klickety. THat's BEAUTIFUL08:34
Anjinhai think i have w32codecs08:34
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draikmy laptop's battery is good enough for about 2-3 hours... it's badly dying08:34
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eric__anyone know any ways to tweak it for a centrino notebook?08:34
tkAnjinha: totem is a movie player that Mozilla will use to play WMV and stuff in webpages08:34
Anjinhathe problem is when i try to see any movie in the firefox, it doesnot play sound.08:35
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Anjinhaapt-get install totem?08:35
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tkAnjinha: are you using kubuntu? run adept and type in totem for your filter08:35
Anjinhayeah, kubuntu08:37
Anjinhai was a debian sarge user... lol08:37
Anjinhaused to apt-get ....08:37
Anjinhaanyway it is installing08:37
Anjinhaand i think i have to install totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin too ?08:38
tknot sure if i installed that one or not08:38
tklet me check08:38
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tkerr once Adept is done with gtk08:38
Anjinhai installed that yakuake, so it is faster open an terminal than anything08:39
niklazexcitatory: did you take a screenshot yet?08:39
excitatorydraik, CVirus, ok, well, this should give you a decent idea of what my desktop looks like.. it's not terribly customized.. but then again, i don't need all that: http://subfluous.net/images/desktop.jpg  (then, desktop1.jpg, desktop2.jpg, desktop3.jpg for more linux goodness)  it's basically plain kde, with a few tweaks.  it's why i love this de so much.  (channel, plz don't kill my box)08:39
niklazlol.08:40
tkAnjinha: i dont have the FF plugin installed08:40
JucatoAnjinha: the difference is that when you are opening Konsole, you are really opening/calling the program. Yakuake, on the other hand, is already running in the background, you are only calling it forward/making it visible08:40
CVirusROFL @ (channel, plz don't kill my box)08:40
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niklazhow did you resize your top panel like that?08:41
Anjinhainstalled totem... let see if works... w8 a sec.08:41
Anjinhabrb08:41
niklazyou will be missed.08:41
niklazexcitatory: eh?08:42
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Jucatoehehe! lots of panels! :-D08:42
niklazokay08:43
niklazquestion in general..08:43
excitatoryniklaz: very easy..08:43
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niklazoh you are there >_>08:43
excitatoryyea.. the side panel autohides.. ..it's nice08:43
JucatoAll my panels auto hide :-D08:43
niklazwell, I'm a nub in kubuntu and don't know how08:43
excitatoryniklaz: right click on the panel, configure.. the options should be intuitive08:43
niklazoh, very simple08:44
niklazsorry for the stupid question.08:44
excitatoryno worries.. happens to the best of us08:44
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Anjinhaty niklaz :)08:44
pierrethhello08:44
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niklazwhat are you thanking me for?08:45
KiDD420thank you08:45
Anjinhayou missed me08:45
niklazo_o08:45
niklazoh08:45
niklazlol08:45
Anjinhalol08:45
niklazyeah.08:45
niklaz:)08:45
Anjinhano sound yet tk08:45
Anjinhashould i restart firefox?08:45
tkAnjinha: hmmm I would restart firefox08:45
draikexcitatory, CVirus, niklaz, here is my desktop. Nothing big either, just what I need... http://www.draikunderlord.com/desktop.png08:45
Anjinhak08:46
niklazahh, widget.. thingies08:46
tkdraik: looks nice ;)08:46
excitatorynice08:46
tkwhats the CPU display?08:47
Anjinhaomg08:47
Anjinhaworked!!!08:47
draikthank you tk08:47
CVirusdraik: no panels ?08:47
Anjinhathank you tk!!!!08:47
Anjinhaa lot!!!08:47
excitatoryCVirus: probably autohiding08:47
draikThank you excitatory08:47
CVirusah08:47
Jucatoehehe no panels. just like mine...08:47
tkAnjinha: your welcome, I just fought the same problem about 12hrs ago for myself ;)08:47
draiktk, it's superkaramba... SystemCheck08:47
Anjinhalol08:47
soulrider_draik: nice desktop, how did you get those widgets things?08:47
Jucatoauto hide is one of the best space saving features :-D08:47
Anjinha:)08:47
draikCVirus, I have it all hidden down... comes up when I go over to the bottom left08:48
Jucatosoulrider_: Superkaramba08:48
soulrider_:O08:48
Jucatodraik: cool wallpaper! :-D08:48
CVirusdraik: yeah08:48
Anjinhabut to use with firefox i had to uninstall the totem and replace by totem-xine and totem-xine-firefox-plugin08:48
KiDD420I want widgets08:48
draiksoulrider_ 'sudo apt-get superkaramba' and then go to http://www.kde-look.org and get SystemCheck or download it from Superkaramba itself08:48
excitatorysoulrider_: it's more geared toward gnome, but check out gdesklets.. superkaramba is the kde equiv.08:48
draikThank you Jucato08:49
draikThank you CVirus08:49
pierrethhow can i chnage the colors of the menus?08:49
CVirusdraik: for ?08:49
CVirusdraik: ah .. its CooL :-p08:49
CVirusserioulsy I love that style08:49
niklazexcitatory: how do you take the tasks from the main panel? I can't find the option in config08:49
excitatoryyea.. superkaramba has a fetching feature.. much easier than grabbing them and manually installing it.08:49
soulrider_hey guys, i got over 1 gb of abstract wallpapers08:49
draik<CVirus> draik: yeah08:49
Anjinhabye bye, thanks a lot08:49
soulrider_if youre interested we can distribute htem among us08:50
Anjinhacya08:50
draikI have other colors for that background08:50
soulrider_i can send them, with bittorrent or somehting08:50
draikfound them online08:50
soulrider_bye!08:50
draikcan't recall where though08:50
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draikbye soulrider_08:50
KiDD420Im having serious trouble installing the sun java runtime environment08:50
CVirusdraik: its a KooL one yeah08:50
excitatoryniklaz: you have to add an external taskbar, then right click on the kicker, then remove taskbar.. but don't remove the external taskbar08:50
KiDD420I cant find it in the universe repository08:50
excitatoryunless you don't want one08:50
draikThey are set to 1280x1024, if anyone wants them I'll tar them to your email08:50
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soulrider_draik: i was saying bye to Anijinha :P08:51
draikLOL, whoopsie08:51
excitatoryKiDD420: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java08:51
soulrider_id like to draink, please :)08:51
soulrider_lol08:51
excitatoryKiDD420: sorry.. site is down08:51
draikHAHA... I'm listening to Snow - Informer08:51
draikOld School08:51
draikHAHA08:51
excitatoryinstall this: sun-java5-bin08:51
tkKiDD420: use JRE as your filter ;)08:52
niklazexcitatory: alright, thanks08:52
excitatoryKiDD420: then run this: sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-1.5.0-sun08:52
Jucatoerr... DO NOT install Sun's Java with Adept (sorry for shouting)08:52
tkJucato: yes I was about to get him the cmd line I was given to run it ;)08:52
soulrider_a superkaramba theme is one of those widgets right?08:52
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KiDD420http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ <-- right server?08:53
ironfroggyso any idea why kprint can print to my cups printer, but firefox can't? it actually shows up in kjobviewer, says it printed, but never does.08:53
excitatoryJucato: well you can, you just have to do this first: sudo apt-get install libqt-perl && sudo dpkg-reconfigure debconf      then adept will work.08:53
soulrider_is there any way i can add transparency to ALL windows in KDE?08:53
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ironfroggyset the active and inactive window tranparency level08:54
tkexcitatory: I did that, and it ran my config for JRE as well all in 1 swipe :P08:54
Jucatobut you need to have Compositing enabled in Xorg...08:54
excitatoryKiDD420: yea..why is it not working?08:54
KiDD420it says it cant find the package sun-java5-bin08:54
tksoulrider_: what dimensions are those wallpapers?08:54
soulrider_all sorts of sizes08:55
soulrider_i think most are 102408:55
KiDD420I tried apt-get in console and adept08:55
soulrider_but i use thema dn they look great on my screen08:55
JucatoKiDD420: you would need to have the multiverse component added/enabled to your repositories08:55
soulrider_want a screenshot?08:55
KiDD420i enabled it, do i have to disable the other ones?08:55
excitatoryKiDD420: do you have the universe and multiverse repository enabled?08:55
excitatoryin /etc/apt/sources.list08:55
tksoulrider_: how big is a tgz fo them?08:55
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Jucatoerr... help.ubuntu.com is down?08:56
soulrider_i got them all in a folder08:56
soulrider_its over 1 GB i think08:56
excitatoryJucato: it appears so08:56
Jucatoerr.. great!08:56
KiDD420backports toooo?08:56
excitatorynah08:56
usuariohello everybody08:56
tksoulrider_: hmm let me see if i can get my torrnet client working, I'd love to have em :)08:56
excitatorylo08:56
JucatoKiDD420: no, only the one with "deb ------ dapper universe"08:56
KiDD420well I have them enabled08:56
soulrider_:)08:56
soulrider_well it would be ncie if other people got them too08:56
usuarioI'm from Venezuela, who's of here?08:57
JucatoKiDD420: edit the one with "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe" and add "multiverse" beside "universe"08:57
soulrider_if im gonna up them other people might as well benefit from them08:57
soulrider_hola usuario08:57
Sakirethhttp://www.booble.com/08:57
usuariocomo estas08:57
usuariode donde eres?08:57
usuariosoulrider08:57
tksoulrider_: are any of them copyrighted at all? I can provide web space ;)08:57
soulrider_i really dont know08:58
KiDD420I just change universe to multiverse or add it on the end?08:58
soulrider_de Uruguay08:58
JucatoKiDD420: add it at the end08:58
excitatoryKiDD420: you need to add them all08:58
soulrider_pero no podemos hablar espaol en este canal08:58
soulrider_!es08:58
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.08:58
JucatoKiDD420: so that it will be "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse"08:58
excitatoryKiDD420: add this to the end: dapper main restricted universe multiverse08:58
KiDD420THANK YOU SO MUCH08:59
KiDD420NOW I SEE IT08:59
excitatoryKiDD420: update, then go08:59
niklazexcitatory: how did you add your home folder to your main panel? it's not an applet08:59
KiDD420do I want bin or the jre?08:59
KiDD420jre is part of the bin package right08:59
excitatoryniklaz: sure it is, it's called Quick File Browser08:59
soulrider_does anyone here use a PPPOE connection ?09:00
niklazoh.09:00
niklazno wonder.09:00
niklazthx.09:00
Jucatosoulrider_: ADSL PPPoE? I do. but I'm no expert...09:00
soulrider_ok09:00
soulrider_well i got this problem09:00
excitatoryKiDD420: you want: sun-java5-bin09:00
soulrider_its really strange09:00
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KiDD420I got it thank you09:00
soulrider_sometimes its like some of my programs can access the itnernet09:00
soulrider_and some cant09:00
KiDD420you helped very much09:00
soulrider_unles i reconnect09:00
soulrider_its really weird09:00
KiDD420change the keep alive to a lower value09:01
usuarioi wanna meet any people from venezuela!09:01
niklazwhy doesn't the "storage media" applet work? strange.09:01
excitatoryyea..honestly.. i wouldn't use any isp that uses PPPOE.. nothing but pure bullshit09:01
usuariohttp://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu09:01
Jucatoniklaz: what KDE version are you using?09:01
soulrider_excitatory: pppoe es the only thing available in my country :P09:01
niklazehh.. not sure09:01
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Jucatoexcitatory: same situation here09:01
excitatoryniklaz: it does.. but nothing shows up unless you have a disc in the drive, or a usb device plugged in, etc.. stick a cd in..09:01
JucatoAnd I also thought was ADSL DHCP was being dropped in favor of PPPoE09:02
KiDD420soulrider_: change the keep alive value to a lower one09:02
niklazoh I see.09:02
excitatoryniklaz: it's a very handy applet09:02
niklazI thought it was like.. my hard drive.. o_o09:02
Jucato:-D09:02
KiDD420Why can't I see the contents of my 250GB ntfs harddrive but I can see my smaller ones?09:03
niklazI wish there was a seperator applet..09:03
JucatoKiDD420: is the 250GB ntsf drive mounted?09:03
KiDD420it is09:03
Jucatohmm...09:03
excitatoryniklaz: nah.. idk.. with linux you really don't go around browsing your hard drive like you do in windows.. you have your home folder for whatever.. and that's it.. the system takes care of the rest..or you interact with it through various programs..  it's kind of why the file system hierarchy doesn't bother me.09:03
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excitatoryniklaz: it's quite difficult to get out of the windows mentality, i know.09:04
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niklazexcitatory: lol, yeah.09:04
soulriderargh09:04
soulridermy internet did that again09:04
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soulriderany ideas?09:04
KiDD420jucato: it is mounted and when I click to open it is empty09:04
niklazcall your isp09:04
niklaz:)09:04
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Jucatosoulrider_: unfortunately, no idea...09:04
soulrideri onyl ahve problems in linux09:04
niklazeh09:05
KiDD420you have dsl modem?09:05
niklazstill though, they might have some answers09:05
niklazit wasn't a totally sarcastic answer.09:05
soulrideri dont think so09:05
soulriderthey are useless :P09:05
niklazwhat provider do you have?09:05
excitatoryniklaz: but the second he mentions linux.. they'll immediately use that as an excuse and refuse to help..09:05
soulriderlike.. the only one! :P09:05
soulriderim not in the US09:05
excitatoryunless it's speakeasy.. they're probably the only ones09:05
KiDD420he uses anteldata.net.uy09:05
Jack1i  am getting error messages that klama 0.38 is outdated however it is the most recent version in the reps09:06
soulrideri do09:06
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Jucatohere in the Philippines, all DSL ISP use PPPoE...09:06
Jack1klamav09:06
HealotUruguay09:06
draikLOL soulrider09:06
soulrider:(09:06
draikthe only provider, that gotta suck09:06
Admiral_ChicagoJucato, isnt that all DSL ISPs?09:06
Healotmost DSL providers use PPPoE09:06
draikno other options09:06
soulriderJucato: DSL = pppoe09:06
Jucatoerr.. forgive my grammar... :-D09:06
excitatorysoulrider, not always09:06
Jucatosoulrider_: I was under the impression that DSL could also use DHCP09:07
Healotsome DSL provider provides PPPoA for enterprises09:07
excitatorybut in your case, yes09:07
soulriderthe point is09:07
soulridermy internet is friggin nuts09:07
Healotstill it's PPPo[AE] 09:07
draiklol09:07
dragon-1What is the default password to log in as Root?09:07
niklazexcitatory: where did you get that awesome wallpaper?09:07
draikno password09:07
excitatorydragon-1: don't log in as root09:07
soulriderand im gonna kill something if linux wont work like ti should09:07
excitatoryuse sudo09:07
Healotdragon-1, "sudo -i"; next enter your password09:07
KiDD420what the -i09:08
Healot!root09:08
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.09:08
draiksoulrider, I have a "hit list" if you do go on a rampage09:08
soulridergreat09:08
soulriderbah09:08
excitatoryniklaz: i get all of my wallpapers from deviantart09:08
Admiral_Chicagosoulrider, whats the problem09:08
soulriderdont talk about hit list09:08
Jucatowhat's the difference between "sudo -i" and "sudo -s"??09:08
soulriderearlier today i was reading aobut columbine09:08
soulriderand i got pissed off09:08
soulriderabout so many things09:08
niklazahh.. deviantart09:08
HealotJucato, man sudo; you'll find out09:08
tksoulrider: would an FTP site suffice for you to share your images with?09:08
KiDD420!sudo09:08
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.09:08
ironfroggyhas anyone had a problem where flash movies show the first frame and never play?09:09
excitatorydragon-1: you should never have to log in as root.  again, if you need root privileges, put sudo before the command.09:09
KiDD420doesnt help when help is down09:09
soulridersure09:09
ironfroggyalthough it seems that only some have this problem and others do not. youtube works, for example.09:09
excitatoryironfroggy: example?09:09
ironfroggyexcitatory: http://www.g4tv.com/attackoftheshow/blog/AOTB/cat/84/The_Loop.html#62927209:10
excitatoryJucato: open up konq, man:/sudo09:10
Jack1i  am getting error messages that klamav 0.38 is outdated however it is the most recent version in the reps09:10
ironfroggyalso the front page of the 30 days website on FX09:10
dragon-1Im trying to copy wallpares from on user directory, to a Root directory so that applicating that point to the root directory can use the wallpapers as backgrounds.  And I keep getting a "Access Denied" message when simply Coppy/Pasting into desired directory.  Or is there a better way to do this?09:10
soulridertk unless i can fix this thing, im gonna have lots of trouble uploading them09:10
Jucatohmm... "The -i (simulate initial login) option runs the shell specified in the passwd(5) entry of the user that the command is being run as"; "The -s (shell) option runs the shell specified by the SHELL environment variable if it is set or the shell as specified in passwd(5)."09:10
soulrideralso because my uplaod sucsk09:10
tksoulrider: hehe ok09:10
ironfroggydragon-1: how are you copying? command line or dragging them in some GUI?09:11
Admiral_Chicagodragon-1, try doing kdesu konqueror09:11
niklazexcitatory: would you happen to have any walls of it raining or bad weather? sounds ridiculous but I like those type of nature walls.09:11
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Jucatoso they're basically the same?09:11
soulriderAdmiral_Chicago: after a while of being connected to my ADSL service some apps start not getting access to the internet09:11
soulriderits like some work and soem dont09:11
soulriderand the nly way to fix it is to reconnect09:11
HealotJucato, you can switch to another shell with sudo -s09:11
soulriderbut if unattended some apps like ktorrent are kidna useless afetr a reconnect09:11
dragon-1Using the GUI.  Isn't that the point of K,N, Unbuntu, is to be an easier transition from Windows environment to Linux?09:12
KiDD420soulrider: did you try my suggestion09:12
draikdragon-1, try using the command line as 'sudo cp /path/to/pix /path/to/new/location'09:12
soulridersorry i think i didnt read it09:12
KiDD420soulrider_: change the keep alive value to a lower one09:12
JucatoHealot: and sudo -i will only switch to root?09:12
excitatoryironfroggy: that site requires flash 8.. you can thank adobe for not providing linux users with an updated version of flash in well over a year and a half.  don't expect it until 2007 either.. AND THIS KIDS, is why proprietary software is BAD.  oh yea.. and thank the fine people at that website for using a technology that 25% of the world can't use..09:12
soulriderhow do i do that09:12
Jack1is it possible to integrate a leo dictionary plugin into konqueror or akregator?09:12
HealotJucato, switch to the default shell, yes...09:13
LeeJunFanniklaz: take that dcc - nice pic of storm09:13
KiDD420well you say you don't have a dsl modem that you connect to via your NIC?09:13
Healotto switch to another shell let's say /bin/csh (C Shell), use sudo -s09:13
excitatoryAdmiral_Chicago: NO! BAD09:13
soulridererr09:13
soulriderwhat i have is an ADSL modem connected to my network card09:13
Admiral_Chicago  excitatory i run that from command...09:13
niklazalright thx.09:13
Jucatohm... ok... that explains it a bit. thanks! I did try to read the man pages. but their difference wasn't that really clear to me.09:13
KiDD420ok good09:13
dragon-1I'll try to figur that one out thanks.09:14
niklazfor some reason my transfer aren't going in dcc09:14
KiDD420now see what the default gateway is09:14
excitatoryAdmiral_Chicago: never run konq as root.. it will fsck up your profiles09:14
niklazwhy is that?09:14
soulriderit goes through my router first but the damn thing refuses to connect tot he internet09:14
soulriderso its like if it wasnt there09:14
KiDD420should be 192.168.x.x09:14
Admiral_Chicagoprofiles....konqueror..doesn't matter to me really09:14
LeeJunFanniklaz: hrm - I show 84% sent. lemme put it up somewhere.09:14
Admiral_Chicagoi use firefox and have one profile09:14
niklazI have 0% progress09:14
soulriderKiDD420: how do i do that09:14
niklazi haven't configured anything in konversation09:14
KiDD420in your system settings click on network settings09:15
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excitatoryAdmiral_Chicago: well, then you get the responsibility of supporting this guy when he logs out and back in and can't access konq.09:15
KiDD420then click the routes tab09:15
soulrider0.0.0.009:15
ironfroggyexcitatory: i didnt ask for a political bashing of the sites i enjoy.09:15
KiDD420thats your problem09:15
Admiral_Chicagoexcitatory, thats true, i was told to run "kdesu command" to run a GUI as root09:16
ironfroggyand blame it completely on the open source community. if they want it so badly, they should just write it themselves.09:16
soulriderbut as you can see i can connect quite well :P09:16
KiDD420That I do09:16
excitatoryironfroggy: well that's fine.. but i meant it any site.. not just the ones you enjoy.09:16
LeeJunFanniklaz: The ones that start with _MG from here http://home.skycon.net/~junfan/09:16
soulriderso, what should i do09:16
JucatoJack1: you can try following this guide: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=5657.0 except that use this for the Search URL instead:  http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&lang=en&searchLoc=0&cmpType=relaxed&sectHdr=on&spellToler=on&search={@}&relink=on09:17
niklazLeeJunFan: thanks.09:17
ironfroggyis there any route one could take to use netscape plugin DLLs and use them in linux?09:17
excitatoryironfroggy: umm.. yea..when we can't see the code?  and when flash 8 and especially 9 have very specific, proprietary features that prevent any 3rd party attempt at any kind of real functionality.. sure.. it's that easy.09:17
KiDD420I would go into admin mode and use the manual settings09:17
niklazLeeJunFan: do you know how to configure konversation to make dcc transfer work correctly?09:17
ironfroggyexcitatory: they are documented specifications.09:17
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excitatoryironfroggy: your only option is to run the windows version of firefox through wine.09:17
WiredHeya09:17
WiredGot a question09:17
KiDD420then in the advanced tab you would want to set your gateway09:17
Admiral_ChicagoWired, ask09:18
excitatoryironfroggy: ok, then write it.09:18
soulriderwhat manual settings09:18
KiDD420click eth0 and go to configure settings09:18
WiredI ran into some problems with wine not working on an x64 based system for kubuntu..so really this is a 2 part question09:18
ironfroggyexcitatory: im too busy. and im not one of the ones complaining about it.09:18
WiredFirst09:18
Jack1Jucato shall i past this in settings from akregator in "use this command"?09:18
LeeJunFanniklaz: it may actually be my routing not working right. I have 2 internet connections and I use some spiffy conntrack iptables to mark packets to determine what route to take. Incoming connections are tricky.09:18
soulriderconfigure interface?09:18
KiDD420then click the manual radio button then advanced settings09:18
KiDD420yea09:18
soulrideror in routes09:18
WiredIs there a Wine-like program that works on 64 bit? and second, if not, does the none-64bit kubuntu work with a 64bit processor?09:18
excitatoryironfroggy: um..you were the one complaining that you couldn't view one of your favourite websites?09:18
KiDD420configure interface09:19
Sakirethhow to set your homepage @ konqueror?09:19
ironfroggyive decided to take the crazy route of understanding that they might want to stay in bussiness and continue receiving payment for the job they did.09:19
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Admiral_ChicagoWired, to start off with wine & 64 are just starting09:19
soulriderok09:19
soulriderclicked on advanced09:19
soulridernow?09:19
niklazLeeJunFan: well, I was trying to get some other files from a bot on a different channel and no go.. it wouldn't do anything.. and that's why I ask what's up with my dcc transfer09:19
KiDD420you will have to know your dsl modems ip address and enter it into the gateway09:19
ironfroggyexcitatory: i didnt complain about abobe not open sourcing the flash player. i wasnt sure why they were not playing.09:19
KiDD420192.168.1.1 or something similar09:19
soulridermind you, just in case, my ISP disocnnects me every 12 hours and gives me a new IP09:19
LeeJunFanWired: codeweavers crossover works with 64 (basically it's wine), libs are static compiled so it works fine, and yes you can run 32bit kubuntu on 64 proc, I am.09:19
soulriderhow can i see my modems ip ?09:20
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niklazis kopete better than gaim?09:20
excitatoryironfroggy: i have no problem with proprietary software.. but when a major web technology, that so many people use is released.. it's an insult to not release it on all platforms.09:20
draikis there a way of knowing if wine will work or not? or is it just a hit/miss?09:20
Wiredooops person answering my question quit mid explanation :p09:20
ironfroggyexcitatory: bussiness is bussiness.09:21
draik!wine09:21
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.09:21
WiredLeeJunFan: great thanks.09:21
LeeJunFanniklaz: It could be that you need to forward ports on your router or something, I'm really not sure about how dcc makes it's connections between hosts.09:21
KiDD420how would he find his default gateway09:22
niklazI actually had to edit the options when I had MIRC awhile back09:22
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excitatoryironfroggy: i see it as a boundary.. it's just one more thing to divide us, and stunt any kind of communal or socal progress.09:22
soulridercan i send you a screenshot of what i seE?09:22
soulriderjust in case09:22
[Nige] how do I add a script to run at boot time?09:22
[Nige] !scripts09:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about scripts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:22
Jack1Jucato ah ok it corresponds with your article ok09:22
dragon-1Okay now how the heck do I register a Nickname?09:23
Wiredthanks for the answers, btw. Theres another Linux "help" channel I was in where they pretty much bitched at you for any question you asked, than referred you to google.09:23
LeeJunFanKiDD420: ip route | grep default09:23
niklazexcitatory: you wouldn't happen to know would you?09:23
excitatoryniklaz: what's the question?09:23
soulrideri get: default dev ppp0  scope link09:23
KiDD420soulrider: open a console and do an ip route | grep default09:23
niklazexcitatory: my dcc transfers aren't working and I'm not sure why09:24
LeeJunFansoulrider: dialup eh? :) just a sec.09:24
soulriderpppoe09:24
niklazexcitatory: I remember editing something in MIRC to make them work09:24
niklazexcitatory: had nothing to do with ports, though09:24
soulridersometimes i feel like biting my  LCD screen, dunno why09:24
ironfroggyexcitatory: if it was so important and the free-software model so correct, wouldnt we have simply replaced it by now?09:24
soulriderbut one fo these days im gonna get mad and chew it09:25
LeeJunFansoulrider: ip route | grep ppp should give you the IP address of the remote side.09:25
soulrideri swear........09:25
LeeJunFanniklaz: I just got notification that you cancelled the DCC.09:25
dragon-1Draik - is this what that command line should look like?  "sudo cp /home/dragon-1/.kde/share/wallpapers/*.*/usr/share/wallpapers"?09:25
niklazLeeJunFan: Yeah, it wasn't doing anything09:25
draikif that's where its from and to, then yes09:25
soulrideri get:     200.40.19.67 dev ppp0  proto kernel  scope link  src 200.125.28.2209:25
draikdragon-1 ^^'09:25
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dragon-1Cool, thanks lets see if it works09:25
niklazLeeJunFan: I checked the sites and the resolutions are way to low for me to use on a 1024x768 desktop09:25
LeeJunFansoulrider: 200.40.19.67 is your gateway09:26
WiredOh hey new question: If I got a dualcore athlon, what would I have to do inorder to have kubuntu support it?09:26
soulriderok, so i put that in the empty field?09:26
KiDD420the first one09:26
soulriderwhat do i do in advanced then?09:26
imbrandonWired: nothing, it does already09:26
WiredGreat09:26
Wiredthanks again09:27
KiDD420set your gateway09:27
LeeJunFanniklaz: you're right - those are 850x567, I've got one on my 1680x1050 - looks fine.09:27
KiDD420to 200.40.19.6709:27
KiDD420i really dont know other than that09:27
excitatoryironfroggy: number one this is a very complex issue.  number two, oss is unknown to many people.  number three, i'm not one to say if it's a final solution.. but what i am saying is something like flash is a huge accessibility issue... even worse than ajax.09:27
KiDD420but just try logging into your modem by going to http://200.40.19.6709:27
ironfroggyexcitatory: how is ajax an accessibility issue at all?09:28
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soulrider_ok.........09:28
soulrider_im back09:28
soulrider_ifoncfig is showing two connections i had NEVER seen before09:28
excitatoryniklaz: umm..it's probably your router09:28
soulrider_called vnet09:28
dragon-1Arg,  This is why I get discoouraged every time I try to use Linux.  Something as simple as sending a copy of Jpeg files from one folder to another should not be so retardedly complicated.09:29
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niklazexcitatory: Didn't have that problem on MIRC.. so how could it be that?09:30
ironfroggydragon-1: how is that a linux issue? try copying some files on windows onto the Administrator's desktop.09:30
[Nige] how do i get a script to run at boot time?09:30
soulrider_ok, so what will happen when my ISP disconnects me in 12 hours?09:30
soulrider_will it reconnect and everythign will work........ or not?09:30
KiDD420i couldnt say09:30
excitatoryironfroggy: it's not friendly to a wide-range of disabled people.  most websites are not designed with this in mind anyway.. but progress has been made to get around that.  stuff like ajax, though cool, leaves many people with special needs in teh dark on the web.  specialized browsers just cannot parse the info.09:31
KiDD420but just try logging into your modem by going to http://200.40.19.6709:31
LeeJunFanniklaz: mirc may support upnp which will open needed ports on your router if it supports upnp - most do. But maybe konversation doesn't.09:31
soulrider_opera gives me an error09:31
soulrider_can i like dunno, hack it for better speeds? :P09:31
ironfroggyexcitatory: speciallized browsers arent the way to go for accessability anyway. proper use of web standards can work easily beside ajax and such technologies while still remaining accessible09:31
niklazLeeJunFan: I have problems accsessing my modem to foward ports09:31
KiDD420uhhh09:31
soulrider_use Opera09:32
KiDD420no09:32
KiDD420what kind of modem are you using?09:32
soulrider_no idea09:32
soulrider_alcatel onetouch i think09:32
KiDD420look on it09:32
soulrider_or is that a cellphone.... :/09:32
soulrider_hang on, ill go downstairs09:33
excitatorydragon-1: what ironfroggy said.. if you're a limited user, good luck transferring to another's account.  sure you might say you can do it.. but that's because you're running windows as an admin.. and that's why when you get a piece of malware on widows it pwns your system in 10 minutes flat.09:33
LeeJunFan10 mins is being aweful generous.09:33
LeeJunFan10ms09:33
dragon-1I'm not trying to make this out to be a "Linux" Issue.  I'm justsaying, that this is my computer.  I am the administrator.  In a windows environment I would simply log in as the administrator or provide the userid and password when trying to access an administrative feature and I'd be done by now.09:33
excitatorydragon-1: this is simple.  sudo cp -R /path/to/source /path/to/destination09:34
Jack1jucato thanks09:34
excitatorydragon-1: and you do.. it's called sudo.09:34
ironfroggyto be fair, KDE should prompt for credentials for file operations where you otherwise dont have the proper permissions.09:34
Jack1Jucato do u have an idea why klamav (latest vs from the reps) keeps nagging that it is outdated?09:34
Jack1version0.3809:34
dragon-1Okay I did that and it did nothing.09:34
soulrider_KiDD420:  it sais Thomson SpeedTouch 51009:34
excitatorydragon-1: if you're insistent, you CAN log in as root.. but it's truly a bad idea.  if you insist, i can help you set your root password to log in as root.09:35
dragon-1Is that if I have 30 files to copy from one directory to another I need to do it one at a time?09:35
excitatoryJack1: are you sure it's not talking about the virus definitions?09:35
Jack1Jucato do u have an idea how to get a currency converter for konqui?09:35
KiDD420what version?09:35
soulrider_didnt say09:35
LeeJunFandragon-1: -R is recursive [copies entire directories] 09:35
Jack1<excitatory>no it says virus data base is up to date09:36
excitatoryJack1: and you do realise, antivirus programs, on any os, are superfluous.09:36
dragon-1Thank you, that was not mentioned by the previous person.  I will try that09:36
soulrider_hang on, let me check again09:36
Jack1well <excitatory> how ever it gives me a good feeling and09:37
KiDD420not only do they use precious resource they give you a false sense of security09:37
KiDD420i see you like that tho09:37
LeeJunFanKiDD420: bah, my .45 might too, but I'm not going to stop carrying it.09:37
excitatoryJack1: seriously.. there has been like 1 virus evar on linux.. you're safe.09:38
LeeJunFanKiDD420: better to be safe.09:38
Wiredlol09:38
KiDD420its not useing your precious resources09:38
KiDD420soulrider:09:38
KiDD420soulrider: http://192.168.1.25409:38
KiDD420try that09:38
LeeJunFanKiDD420: I personally also wouldn't bother with antivir on linux - yet.09:38
LeeJunFanKiDD420: but it's not to say it's useless.09:39
KiDD420The default user name is Administrator and the default password is blank.09:39
soulrider_it didnt sya a version09:39
excitatoryJack1: recent studies show that even on windows it's not worth the performance hit.. most virus writers test their viruses on the most popular AV apps anyway before releasing09:39
soulrider_rememeber ht emodem goes through my router first09:39
soulrider_and i got an error09:39
KiDD420oh well what kind of router?09:39
excitatoryJack1: and furthermore, most virus writers run *nix, so they wouldn't try to sink their own ship!09:39
KiDD420you tried http://192.168.1.25409:40
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soulrider_yea09:40
soulrider_and mine is a modem not a router09:40
soulrider_http://www.adslguide.org.uk/hardware/reviews/2002/q4/st510v4.asp09:40
soulrider_you looking a that?09:40
KiDD420no09:40
LeeJunFanJack1: there just isn't enough justification to run antivirus on linux right now, I've been running linux for 11 yrs and haven't seen one.09:40
soulrider_ok09:40
KiDD420did you try that website?09:41
KiDD420http://192.168.1.254/09:41
soulrider_i did09:41
soulrider_and i get an error09:41
KiDD420ok09:41
KiDD420and you said you have a router?09:41
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Sakirethmy sound is gone!!09:42
Sakirethsound init failed (SDL_mixer): No available audio device09:42
Sakirethand i closed everything09:42
soulrider_yes09:42
Sakiretheven tried skill -9 robin09:42
KiDD420log into it09:42
soulrider_i got my modema dn my pc connected in a router09:42
soulrider_ok09:42
soulrider_BUT09:42
soulrider_teh friggin router wont dial09:42
KiDD420what brand of router?09:42
soulrider_benq awl 70009:43
soulrider_a real piece of shit09:43
LeeJunFanThe router didn't hand out that IP he's got, that's straight from a bridged modem.09:43
KiDD420maby its running as a switch09:43
soulrider_if you ca make it connect to the internet youll ahve my eternal love09:44
soulrider_=D09:44
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Sakirethanyone?09:44
Jack1<LeeJunFan><excitatory>thanx sounds  good however it found some phishing mail i believe..but it was very obvious..does this go for the firewall too?09:44
dragon-1Okay lets say I want to copy all 57 files from folder "A"  /home/wallpapers/A to folder "B"  usr/wallpapers/b should my cammand look like this "sudo cp -R/home/wallpapers/A/*.* usr/wallpapers/b/*.*"?  Or am I misunderstanding something here?09:45
LeeJunFanJack1: I suppose it would help for that - my clamav on my mailserver catches a lot of phishing mails.09:45
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soulrider_i dont think you need -R09:46
Sakirethguys? my sound doesn't work :(09:46
LeeJunFandragon-1: sudo cp /home/wallpapers/A/* /usr/wallpapers/b/09:46
Sakirethif i type alsamixer i get an empty thing09:46
excitatoryphishing is more of a social problem.. it tricks you into submitting your personal info to false destinations, generally.  really no software can prevent that.. maybe a firefox extension or what not..but there's really no replacement for pure common sense.09:46
KiDD420if you need a program to tell you its a scam09:47
excitatorysoulrider_: yes you do..09:47
excitatoryat least to copy everything.09:47
soulrider_recursive?09:47
dragon-1So no "-R" and only "*" not "*.*"?09:47
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KiDD420http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:O0dCYK10wXsJ:service.benq.com.hk/HKUploadFile/Book/WLS_AWL700_Man_EN.pdf+benq+awl+700&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=4&client=firefox-a09:47
KiDD420read the part about ppoe09:48
LeeJunFanyou don't need the -R unless * is going ot match a directory that you also wan't copied. -R is for copying entire directories, but since you are giving A/* that's every file in A, not the directory A09:48
soulrider_i did09:48
soulrider_i configured it09:48
soulrider_and it doesnt woek09:48
soulrider_work09:48
soulrider_hang on09:48
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Jack1<LeeJunFan>how is the thing with firestarter? i have heard it would start autoatically so i wouldnt need to bother with the graphical interface? and that there wouldnt be any open ports? so i dont need firstarter or what?09:48
dragon-1Cool I think it's making more sence.09:48
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KiDD420log into the router http://192.168.1.109:48
soulrider_i did09:49
LeeJunFanJack1: I also don't use a firewall :) I simply don't run services I don't need, and I keep my system up to date.09:49
KiDD420are there pppoe settings?09:49
LeeJunFanJack1: if you keep your system up to date you really don't have much to worry about. Why firewall off ports that nothing is listening on?09:50
KiDD420Maximum Idle Time  AWL700 provides a timeout mechanism and this means if09:50
KiDD420there is no any traffic pass through AWL700 during the time that you set up, AWL70009:50
KiDD420will terminate this link between you and your ISP automatically.09:50
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excitatoryJack1: do you have a router on your network?09:50
KiDD420set that settings very high09:50
LeeJunFanwell, I gotta sleep. L8r guys.09:51
excitatorylate09:51
KiDD420I also am due to retire09:51
soulrider_ok09:51
Jack1<excitatory>no09:51
soulrider_hang on09:51
KiDD420I'm sorry I could not help you too well soulrider09:51
soulrider_wait please09:51
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soulrider_i will reboot the modem and see if i can connect09:52
soulrider_i dont really need to dial right?09:52
soulrider_thats the point of having it09:52
KiDD420i think your router should do it automaticly09:52
soulrider_ok09:52
soulrider_BRB09:52
soulrider_dont leave :P09:52
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dragon-1Well, it's still not doing anything.  I'm going to have to hang it up for now.  But thanks for the attempts.  You all have a great Day/Night where ever you are.09:53
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soulriderdidnt work09:54
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Jack1the to do list in kontact which program is this and how is that icon called?09:54
excitatoryJack1: by the way, you can just type in a few letters of anyones nick, then hit tab, and it will auto-complete.  well, i recommend a home router.. it's the best option for protection.  if you don't have one.. chances are you're damn safe.  if you run windows.. HAVE a router.. just do it.  on linux, everything is far more secure and no ports are open by default, and thus you'll be ok.  if you're truly paranoid, install firestarter.  it09:54
excitatoryhe way the linux kernel controls network traffic)..  once everything is configured, you only need to run firestarter if you want to make a change.. everything else will just run in the background, deep in the kernel.09:54
Jack1exc09:55
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excitatorysometimes you have to type a little more09:55
KiDD420Im sorry but I don't rememer them teaching PPPOE in my CISCO class09:55
excitatoryweird.. my name is not autocompleting09:56
excitatoryi guess i have no soul09:56
KiDD420excitatory: works for me09:56
excitatoryok, cool09:56
KiDD420you cant do your own nick09:56
excitatorymaybe it's just ones own nick09:56
excitatoryyea09:56
Jack1glo09:56
soulriderargh09:56
soulridercrap09:56
soulriderpisses me off this wont work09:56
KiDD420soulrider: call your ISP09:56
excitatoryKiDD420: i doubt it's an isp issue09:57
Jack1excitatory thanx just the autocomplete thing doesnt work here in xchat09:57
Jack1need some twisting09:57
KiDD420maby they can help him with his hardware09:57
KiDD420did your ISP give you the router too?09:57
soulriderno09:57
soulrideronly modem09:57
KiDD420do you need the router?09:57
soulriderive had it for 2 years now09:57
soulrideryea09:57
Jack1exc,09:57
excitatoryJack1: should work in xchat..  if you're using kubuntu, try konversation.. it's an advanced clone of xchat09:57
soulriderfor my moms laptop.......09:57
KiDD420reset the router to the default settings and start fresh09:58
excitatoryyou have to hit tab09:58
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excitatorybefore you hit enter09:58
excitatoryidk, maybe that's what you're doing..i'm not sure09:58
Jack1i just saw u have to manually make it work yes iam in kde..so i should get it ?09:58
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soulriderdid that last night09:58
Jack1exc,09:58
excitatoryJack1: it's already installed09:58
excitatoryby default09:58
Jack1exc09:58
Jack1excit09:58
KiDD420so it disconnects randomly?09:59
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soulriderthe thing is hat its not my router09:59
soulriderits linux09:59
soulriderinternet works like charm in windows09:59
soulriderand its like it disconnects some apps randomly10:00
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soulridersome work, some dont10:00
niklazSounds weird.10:00
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KiDD420I don't know10:00
KiDD420Use linksys products10:01
niklazLinksys is good.10:01
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soulriderits my dad who buys tsuff10:01
soulriderand he just bought me a new monster comp :P10:01
nathanlhello, I need some help really quick10:01
soulriderso if i tell him to buya  router he will KILL me10:01
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excitatorysoulrider: i want to help.. but i've never dealt with pppoe on linux..10:02
soulriderlol10:02
Joe1wpa supplicant question: I edited my /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf file to include my info, and when I run sudo wpa_supplicant -iath0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dmadwifi -w, I get a disconnect event "remove keys."  anyone know how I can repair this one?10:02
soulriderit sucks.......10:02
soulriderbesides10:02
KiDD420I also have limited pppoe experiance10:02
nathanlI cant seem to find EasyUbuntu. I just installed Ubuntu and want to listen to my mp3's10:02
soulriderpppoeconf doesnt work too wel10:02
niklazDid you check the forums for EasyUbuntu?10:02
niklazIt's there.10:02
nathanlit times out every time I try to get it10:02
Joe1and google.10:02
wolfmanz!easyubuntu10:03
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.10:03
nathanlthe freecontrib.org site is timing out for me10:03
niklazPeople and connection issues. o_o10:03
niklazWhat connection do you have?10:03
soulrideris https://help.ubuntu.com/community broken ?10:03
nathanlcox digital cable10:03
niklazEh..10:03
niklazAny kind of error given?10:03
excitatorysoulrider: i highly recommend you check out and ask in ubuntuforums.org  also try #ubuntu and #networking .. maybe even ##linux  .. if you don't say you're using ubuntu, maybe even #debian -- also the fine people in #gentoo are great -- and i always check forums.gentoo.org for more general, non-distro specific queries.10:04
nathanljust timeout10:04
Joe1LOL!!!   I work for cox digital cable!10:04
soulriderwe dont have cable here lol10:04
KiDD420i would say #networking would be a good start10:04
soulriderk10:04
soulrideri think ill do later10:04
soulriderits 5 am10:04
KiDD420good idea10:04
soulriderand my dad just came to tell me to go to bed lol10:04
excitatorysoulrider: help.ubuntu.com is broken in general10:04
excitatoryidk.. just for the past two hours it seems10:04
soulriderlol10:04
KiDD420I too will retire to my bed10:04
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soulrider:)10:05
excitatoryyea.. i have to work in a few hours10:05
KiDD420thanks for your help and goodnight10:05
excitatoryi should crash10:05
niklazbye.10:05
Jack1exc10:05
soulriderbye everyone!10:05
Joe1anyone know anything about wpa-supplicant?10:05
KiDD420!wpa-supplicant10:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wpa-supplicant - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:05
KiDD420!wpa10:06
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs10:06
excitatoryJack1: you start typing my nick, then hit TAB, it should complete.. then finish your message, then enter.  is that what you're doing?10:06
Joe1yeah, I checked all faq I could find.10:06
KiDD420http://hostap.epitest.fi/wpa_supplicant/10:06
Joe1seriously.10:06
KiDD420what about it?10:06
excitatoryKiDD420: i'd probably stop recommending anything on help.ubuntu.com until it's back up..10:07
KiDD420meh10:07
Joe1I've been there too.  no help.10:07
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KiDD420what are you trying to do with wpa?10:07
excitatoryalright.. later all.10:07
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nathanldoes anyone have the easyubuntu tar.bz2?10:07
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Joe1 I edited my /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf file to include my info, and when I run sudo wpa_supplicant -iath0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dmadwifi -w, I get a disconnect event "remove keys."10:07
KiDD420night excit10:07
Joe1I just want to get online.10:08
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Shan_can I format a Linux partition as an ntfs partition from linux?10:08
Joe1shan, have you tried it?10:09
Healotyes10:09
Shan_no10:09
KiDD420wpagui?10:09
Joe1I used qpartd.10:09
Shan_i tried the mkfs command10:10
Healotyes, with parted and fdisk...10:10
Shan_but its only to make linux fs10:10
Joe1wpagui is blank.10:10
Shan_k10:10
Joe1can't scan, can't see my wireless card.10:10
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KiDD420I cant think right now, Im useless sorry10:11
Joe1kwifimanager can see my card.  It can even see the network.  It only supports wep.10:11
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Shan_Healot: how?10:12
Joe1kidd, at least you tried.10:12
niklazhow do you make ktorrent your default bittorrent client?10:12
KiDD420http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial_s&q=wpa+supplicant+remove+keys&btnG=Search10:12
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KiDD420but im sure you did that already10:13
Joe1yeppers.10:13
KiDD420well goodnight then10:13
sword-brian peppers10:13
KiDD420sorry10:13
niklazLol10:13
niklazAll hope it lost10:13
Joe1sleep is calling.10:13
KiDD420indubitably10:13
Jack1hi guys what does it mean: Connection to Server UnderNet lost: name lookup has failed10:14
Jack1i cannot find help in google10:14
Jack1thats strange10:14
niklazWhere do you get this error.....?10:14
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Jack1niklaz: i tried to change from xchat to konbversation now when i try joining undernet channels10:15
niklazI just recently switched to Konversation as well..10:15
Jack1niklaz: it doesnt find undernet for some reason10:15
niklazHow did you enter it in the server list?10:16
Jack1port 6667, irc.undernet.net?10:17
niklazLet me see if it works for me.10:17
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Joe1oh well.10:19
Joe1it's hopeless.10:19
niklazIt's actually "undernet.org".10:19
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niklazTry that Jack1.10:19
Jack1niklaz: thank u how did u find out?10:19
ivan`encourage-women-linux is hilarious10:19
niklazI googled "undernet irc".. and "undernet.org" came up.10:19
ivan`it's designed for the antisocial caveman who's never met a woman before10:20
sf_i can't get kdevelop working "debconf: apt-extracttemplates failed: Bad file descriptor"10:20
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HealotI am mostly traditional, i think women cannot be geeky, they need to be babes :)10:20
sf_lol10:21
ivan`not only traditional but sexist :)10:21
Jack1niklaz: thanks it works fine10:21
niklazJack1 No probs.10:21
sf_show what should I do about the kdevelop plugins...10:21
ivan`Be specific. "You're good at Linux," is meaningless, "You always know which distribution to recommend," is specific and therefore meaningful.10:21
sf_*so what should...10:22
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Healothoho10:24
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Shan_i still cant figure out how to do this :/10:26
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sf_Shan_ ?10:27
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CViruswhat the heck .. still down ?? https://help.ubuntu.com/community10:30
Healotis Val Henson married?10:30
Healotat least to a man?10:30
sf_where can i report bugs??10:31
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sf_(kdevelop' dep kdevelop-plugins doesn't installl on amd64 )10:32
Healot!launchpad10:32
ubotulaunchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/10:32
ninHerhi tod@s10:33
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Shan_sf_: I'm trying to figure out how to format an ext3 partition to  an ntfs from linux10:34
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sf_Shan have you tried the kubuntu's install cd (in livecd)10:35
sf_nevermind....10:35
LynoureShan_: Why do you want to do that? If you are going to be using it with MS Windows, just partition it into NTFS and use MS Win to format it. NTFS writing from Linux side is not yet 100% reliable.10:36
sf_Lynoure: his gone...10:37
Healotgone with the wind10:39
sf_me too10:40
TheCobrahi10:41
TheCobrai got a problem10:41
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TheCobraI can't write a file to my memorystick10:41
crimsuninsert the memorystick into the computer, not your nose :)10:41
TheCobralooooooooooool10:41
TheCobrathat's not the problem10:42
TheCobraI can read it10:42
TheCobrabut can't write to it:(10:42
crimsunwhat does ``mount'' (in a Konsole) tell you about it?10:42
TheCobraalot:)10:43
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TheCobra/dev/sda3 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)10:43
TheCobraproc on /proc type proc (rw)10:43
TheCobra/sys on /sys type sysfs (rw)10:43
TheCobravarrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw)10:43
TheCobravarlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw)10:43
TheCobraprocbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)10:43
TheCobraudev on /dev type tmpfs (rw)10:43
TheCobradevpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)10:43
TheCobradevshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)10:43
TheCobralrm on /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw)10:43
TheCobra/dev/sda1 on /media/sda1 type ntfs (rw,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46)10:43
TheCobra/dev/sda5 on /media/sda5 type ntfs (rw,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46)10:43
TheCobra/dev/sdb1 on /media/sdb1 type ntfs (rw,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46)10:43
TheCobra/dev/sdf on /media/sdf type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)10:43
TheCobraand it's about the last /dev/sdf on /media/sdf type vfat10:44
TheCobrathat's the usb stick10:44
intelikeynice flood.   where'd ya get it?10:44
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TheCobralol10:44
the-ermya lol10:44
the-erm... what are we laughing at ..10:44
TheCobrasorry about10:44
TheCobracrussum asked me what my mount give me10:45
the-ermoh10:45
TheCobra/dev/sdf on /media/sdf type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)10:46
TheCobrathat's the last line10:46
Lynoure!pastebin10:46
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)10:46
TheCobraso I can't write to there10:46
TheCobraexcuse me10:46
intelikeyTheCobra for the record, when people in here ask about the output of any command, unless they specify pastebin, always assume that they only want the part tertaining to the specific issue.    thank you.10:47
nearfarKontact can't be used for Microsoft Exchange right? Evolution is the only solution?10:47
intelikey tertaining/p*10:47
LynoureOr assume they want it pastebinned. that does not hurt either.10:47
TheCobraI already know it right now, I told u I'm  sorry,10:47
intelikeyLynoure true.  but generally a one line cp/paste in here is faster and more productive.10:48
TheCobrabut seems to be that nobody can help me with this:(10:49
intelikeyTheCobra what is "this" i might.10:49
_rince_mrgn10:50
TheCobrathat I can't write to my usb stick10:50
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TheCobraget acces denied10:50
the-ermTheCobra: I'm curious ... the main mount point /media/sdf who owns it10:50
nearfarHow to completely remove Kubuntu and all it's packages?10:50
the-ermwhat are it's permissinos?10:50
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the-ermSometimes doing a simple chmod to that folder could fix it chmod 777 /media/sdf10:50
TheCobraI dunno10:50
the-ermI'm not 100% sure.10:51
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the-ermand if /media/sdf doesn't exist ... that could be a problem as well. I'm not 100% sure it creates it if it doesn't exist.10:51
intelikeyTheCobra what does  echo $UID   say?10:51
the-ermMaybe I'm just repeating what other people said.  I did walk into this half way.10:51
TheCobra100010:52
intelikeyk   sec10:52
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intelikeyiocharset=utf8 ??? for fat ?    at any raet... what does  ls -ld /media/sdf   say ?10:54
TheCobradrwx------ 1010:54
intelikeyfull line10:54
intelikeyfull line please.10:55
the-ermWell that's enough to tell me you can't do jack with it if you're not part of that group.10:55
the-ermwell .. if you're not that user.10:55
TheCobradrwx------ 10 kurt kurt 16384 1970-01-01 01:00 /media/sdf10:56
the-ermweird file date .10:56
intelikeyTheCobra your user name is kurt  ?10:57
TheCobrayes10:57
TheCobrathat's me10:57
intelikeyk10:57
intelikeylet me see....10:57
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the-ermsdf some sort of card?10:57
the-ermor is it a camera?10:58
TheCobramemorystick10:58
intelikeyif you ls /media/sdf    it says permission denied ?10:58
the-ermok10:58
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TheCobrano I can read it10:58
the-ermok10:58
TheCobrabut not move files to it10:58
the-ermyou just can't write it.10:58
the-ermok.10:58
intelikeyjust can't write....  hmmm10:59
intelikeylet me look at the mount line one more time...10:59
the-erm /dev/sdf on /media/sdf type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)10:59
the-ermrw is there.11:00
TheCobrahmm strange11:01
intelikeyTheCobra i would sujest, (no promise that it will help)  sudo eject /dev/sdf     unplug and replug the stick.11:01
TheCobraI can mv it thru the command line11:01
intelikeyscratch that then11:02
Jack1how can i get a clear button to blank the search plugin space in the konqueror?11:02
Jack1i mean like the one that is used for the url11:02
intelikeyso it's nothing to do with the way it's mounted.11:02
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TheCobrano but ok well I just moved the file instead of copy it :)11:02
TheCobraso that will do too :)11:03
intelikeysolution  read the docs for the gui app you are trying to use.11:03
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TheCobraI'm going to buy the ubuntu book when it's there (31 august)11:03
TheCobrathat will help me too11:03
TheCobraI guess11:03
TheCobraso thanx alot for the help11:04
TheCobraand sorry again for the flood11:04
intelikeywouldn't help me... i have a linux book that i only thumbed through one time, found blatant errors in some examples and pitched it on the shelf...11:04
intelikeyTheCobra don't worry about it,  just don't repete it.11:05
TheCobraI don't :)11:05
TheCobraI learned my lesson :)11:05
TheCobraenjoy the day11:05
TheCobrabye11:05
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Jack1did one test the test version of cold war the linux game?11:05
Jack1is it good?11:05
intelikeyJack1 i'm not a gammer.11:06
Tm_TJack1: I don't know much about modern games, but I enjoyed when I tested it11:07
intelikeyor a speller11:07
Jack1well there is a genuine linuxgame for the first time11:07
Tm_Tintelikey: well, first is more good thing than latter one ;)11:07
Jack1maybe worth testing11:07
wolfmanzget a ps3 or xbox36011:07
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intelikeyTm_T playing games is better than propper spelling ???     maybe. idk.11:08
intelikeyis there any alternative to 'defoma' ?11:09
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intelikeyok quesiton.  howto make a meta package that depends on nothing, but replaces defoma ?     that would work for me.     anyone?11:15
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the-ermwhat's deforma?11:16
intelikeyno R in htat.11:16
intelikeythat11:16
intelikey!info defoma11:16
ubotudefoma: Debian Font Manager -- automatic font configuration framework. In component main, is optional. Version 0.11.8ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 76 kB, installed size 500 kB11:16
the-ermdefoma11:16
the-ermok11:16
the-erm!info mplayer11:16
ubotumplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB11:16
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the-ermok11:17
alex_yocan sombeody help me11:17
alex_yo?11:17
intelikey!info something-not-in-the-repos11:17
ubotuPackage something-not-in-the-repos does not exist in dapper11:17
alex_yoW: GPG error: http://ubuntu.geole.info dapper Release: Die folgenden Signaturen konnten nicht geprft werden weil der zugehrige ffentliche Schlssel nicht zur Verfgung steht: NO_PUBKEY BC40ED249941935511:17
aliasfred2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 <- that IS a version number :)11:17
alex_yowhat to do?11:17
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aliasfredwell i dont speak german but you likely need to add a apt gpg key11:18
intelikeyalex_yo dl the gpg key for that repo11:18
alex_yohow to get this key?11:18
intelikeyfor and from11:19
aliasfredthere are no standard way, you have to find it yourself for this specific repo11:19
alex_yoor remove a line from sources.list11:19
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intelikeynormally the repos contain some README or other helpful info11:20
aliasfredhttp://ubuntu.geole.info/dists/dapper/Release.gpg11:20
intelikeyalex_yo yeah.  easiest by far.11:20
aliasfredwget http://www.geole.info/fileadmin/data/misc/geole.info-apt-key.gpg11:20
aliasfredsudo apt-key add geole.info-apt-key.gpg11:20
aliasfredfrom http://www.geole.info/index.php?id=9&l=111:21
intelikeywput dummy.key http://www.geole.info/fileadmin/data/misc/geole.info-apt-key.gpg    lol11:22
intelikeyit is yoke11:22
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the-ermOk I have to gripe ...11:25
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the-ermI just can't take it any more.11:25
the-ermWHY sudo?11:25
the-ermWhy can't I use su?11:25
the-ermWho thought this was a good idea?11:25
intelikeythe-erm you can.     sudo passwd      and su -   away11:26
the-ermI did'11:26
the-ermWhat's the default password anyways?11:26
intelikeythe-erm there isn't one.11:26
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the-ermSo it's a *root* account with *no* password?11:26
intelikeyyes11:27
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aliasfredno passwd is different from empty passwd11:27
the-ermso anyone can sit down at your computer type in root, and then enter for the password, and just hack away?11:27
intelikeycorrect11:27
intelikeycorrect @ aliasfred11:27
intelikeyincorrect @ the-e11:27
the-ermok11:28
the-ermJust making sure.11:28
intelikeyman passwd   notice -l11:28
the-ermI used to run mandriva, and it's taken a little bit of hacking to get this thing sorta where I like it.11:29
intelikeythe-erm i share your lothing of (default) sudo11:29
the-ermI like adept alot.11:29
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intelikeyi also concure with the 'customize to stand' attatude :)11:29
intelikeyactually the default *buntu sickens me.11:30
intelikeybut hey, it's linux.   if you don't like it change it.11:30
intelikeyso i change it.11:31
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Tm_Tintelikey: no, I meant no-gamer is better than no-speller11:31
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the-ermintelikey: how did you get around the ... forwarding of X variables when you su?  Or did you without using su -p11:32
flaccidi need a bot for my channel to provide help like !help in here11:32
flaccidwhat can i use?11:32
the-ermbecause that jacks with $HOME and $USER11:32
flaccidfor an ubuntu server11:32
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intelikeythe-erm i'm a console kinda guy.      but you use        su -11:33
user_booyakasha11:33
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the-ermso you don't run any X environment ?11:34
intelikeyabout 1% of the time  i run X   some online things.   most i do from console.11:35
the-ermI'm too lazy.  I run x so I can copy and paste.11:35
intelikeythe-erm you can watch vidios graphicly web browse copy and paste all from console11:36
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the-ermWhat program do you use to watch videos?11:36
intelikeyvlc11:36
intelikeyvlc-plugin-svgalib - SVGAlib video output plugin for VLC11:37
intelikey!info vlc11:37
ubotuvlc: multimedia player for all audio and video formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 7620 kB, installed size 18808 kB11:37
intelikey!links211:37
ubotuBrowsers available for Linux: Firefox (GTK), Opera (Qt), Konqueror (KDE/Qt), Links (terminal-based). HTTP servers: apache211:37
intelikey!info links211:37
ubotulinks2: Web browser running in both graphics and text mode. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1pre20-2 (dapper), package size 1969 kB, installed size 3184 kB11:37
fdovingthe-erm: i prefer codeine.11:37
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the-ermI remember running a computer without X11:38
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the-ermwell no gui.11:38
intelikey!info gpm11:38
ubotugpm: General Purpose Mouse Interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.19.6-21ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 201 kB, installed size 496 kB11:39
intelikey<ubotu> gpm: General Purpose Mouse Interface. In component universe, is11:39
intelikey          optional. Version 1.19.6-21ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 201 kB,11:39
intelikey          installed size 496 kB11:39
Healotoh, gpm was great with mc11:39
intelikeyexample of gpm in use ^11:39
intelikeyUsed/Free: 14/23511:40
intelikeyram ^11:40
intelikeyno swap.11:40
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intelikeydaz' rite'  i'm running linux in less than 16m of ram11:41
Healotmc is quite handy when doing file management, without X11:42
intelikeyHealot yes that.11:42
intelikeytrue dat11:42
Healot!info mc11:42
ubotumc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 2073 kB, installed size 5952 kB11:42
aliasfredhehe clear my usual desktop is 250mbyte min :)11:42
Healotit's in hehe11:42
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Lacertacan i control which applications can be accessed through katapult?11:43
aliasfredmy text editor is 80mbyte of ram min :)11:43
intelikeymc is just plain handy.   set up the extentions file correctly and it rivals konqueror11:43
aliasfredand each terminal is 9mbyte :)11:43
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Healoti still use mc sometimes...11:44
the-ermintelikey: you're going to need to explain to me.  Vlc is an ascii video player?  Or is there something I'm missing.11:44
intelikeyeach console is less than 1m  and mc -e  is 1m11:44
intelikeythe-erm the plugin i listed.  that uses console frame buffering11:45
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intelikeyvlc-plugin-svgalib - SVGAlib video output plugin for VLC11:45
the-ermright.11:45
the-ermso how do you tell vlc to use that plugin?11:45
intelikeyman vlc11:46
the-ermguess I should read the man11:46
the-ermya11:46
the-ermok11:46
intelikeyi'd answer but i'd have to do the same or cat a script   i scripted that long ago11:46
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intelikeylong ago in computer time that is.11:47
jontydogmorning all how do I find out what processes are running on my pc with Kubuntu?11:47
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intelikeyps/top/xtop/ksysguard   take your pick11:48
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jontydogcheers11:49
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intelikeyjontydog or you could go comando and just scan /proc11:49
guyhi, why are some programs in the Add/Remove Programs are disabled?11:49
intelikeybut that's not for the novice.11:49
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intelikeyguy repos not enabled ?11:50
jontydogI have been locked out of adept it says its already running so I can't add a program11:50
guyso how can it sees them?11:50
intelikeyjontydog automatic update running ?11:50
jontydogthere is nothing near the clock to say its running11:50
intelikeyguy less /etc/apt/sources.list11:50
intelikey!repos > guy11:50
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guythanks, I read.11:51
fdovingLacerta: yes, through the catalogs in katapult config. it looks for .desktop files.11:52
alex_yothanks aliasfred! now i can download w32codecs and it work without problems11:52
fdovingLacerta: alt+space, ctrl+c, configure katapult -> catalogs11:53
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Lacertafdoving: thx11:54
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gan|y|medhi11:58
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guyweird question, where is the task manager in kubuntu?12:00
intelikeythe who ?12:00
guytop gui?12:00
intelikeyxtop ksysguard12:01
gan|y|medsystem --> system guard (or sth like this)12:01
guyoh12:01
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gan|y|medcan anybody print from openoffice? it used to work with dapper, after an upgrade it didn't anymore. any other printing works12:02
intelikeyguy not system tray you want is it ?12:02
intelikeyso anyone here ever make a meta .deb ?12:03
guyno.. heh12:03
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gan|y|medguy: what about pressing <ctrl> + <esc>12:03
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guy:o12:04
guynice to know:)12:05
fdovingintelikey: yes. i have.12:06
intelikeyfdoving what all is involved  or where do i need to look for info ?12:06
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guyintelikey: ok, I've added the repository, I can see the packages in Adept, but it's still disabled in Add/Remove12:09
guynm:)12:09
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intelikeyguy ?12:10
intelikeyok12:10
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guyit's ok.. thanks12:10
gan|y|medciao12:11
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intelikeyfdoving can you point me at a good howto ?12:11
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taavihi12:12
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taavii have a problem with avi files, they dont play, i've installed all the codecs recommended, still i only hear sound12:13
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crossfirewhat media player are u using?12:13
taavii've tried several12:14
taavixine,vlc,totem etc12:14
DHGEtaavi: what does "uname -r" tell you?12:14
taavidhge: nothing12:15
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crossfirehave you tried this avi on other pcs?12:15
DHGEthen you have no kernel ... strange  wrong channel?12:15
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taavithere are many avi files12:16
crossfiretavvi uname -r should come up with some numbers12:16
taaviand they work, i know that, have tried elsewhere too12:17
taaviok, i try12:17
crossfireif not it means it cant recongise your kernal12:17
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taaviit has numbers12:17
taavido i paste?12:17
crossfireokay cool12:18
crossfireyes please12:18
DHGE!codecs12:18
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:18
taavi2.6.15-26-68612:18
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crossfirethat seems fine12:19
taaviany idea what the problem is?12:19
crossfirehmm12:20
crossfirethinking12:20
crossfiresure its not a crossformated avi12:20
taavino, i've tried many avis12:20
crossfirehm12:20
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crossfiredid u download these avis?12:21
DHGEtaavi: U read the content of the first URL I gave you?12:21
taaviall the players do the same thing, black screen and sound12:21
taavithe avis work, i've played them in windows12:21
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taavidhge: sorry, which one..12:22
crossfireyea but linux has format disagreements with linux12:22
intelikeyinfo !fxce412:22
DHGEhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats12:22
intelikey!info fxce412:22
ubotuPackage fxce4 does not exist in dapper12:22
crossfireas many formants are restricted12:22
intelikeyhmmm12:22
taaviyes, i've installed these12:22
taavimaybe i reinstall....?12:23
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crossfireyea try that12:23
taaviok12:23
crossfiredid u compile the file yourself or use package manger?12:23
intelikeylast time i checked vlc plays avi  out of the box.12:23
Tm_Tubotu: !info xfce4 > intelikey12:23
ubotuxfce4: Installs Xfce4 core and scripts to set it up. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.3.0-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 4 kB, installed size 64 kB12:23
taavipackage manager12:23
Tm_Thmm12:23
Tm_Twhops12:23
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intelikey:)12:24
crossfirehmm have u tried comiling it yoursefl?12:24
taavimm...i dont know how..12:24
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crossfireas my package manger seems to not run install all the time and i find it better to compile them myself12:24
guyyesterday someone helped me with my soundcard, I had two devices. he gave me a command to make one the default device12:24
guywhat was that?12:24
taavinot too familiar with the command line12:24
guyI forgot to write it down12:24
crossfireyea i forgot that command already lol sleeping really wen i did it12:25
intelikeyguy look in your .bash_history file.12:25
taavi:D12:25
guyasoundconf set-default-card Live12:25
guy;)12:25
guythanks.12:25
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taavicrossfire: how do you complete them manually?12:26
intelikeynp12:26
crossfirekonsole12:26
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crossfireor terminal12:26
crossfirecd12:26
taaviyes..12:26
crossfiredirectory12:26
intelikeyteach a guy to fish....12:26
crossfiremake12:26
crossfiremake install12:26
crossfireif lucky12:26
taavimm12:26
intelikeytab12:26
taavidont follow...12:26
crossfirenot always works tho12:27
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taaviemm..tell me again :P12:27
crossfirelol12:27
intelikeytaavi you looking for the tab key ?12:27
taavino, problems with avis12:27
crossfireload ur directory of where you media player is eg etc/xine whatever12:28
crossfirecant remeber were exctally12:28
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taaviok12:29
intelikeyprobably not /etc12:29
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DHGEhe should not compile them for a working 2.6.15-26-686 - everything should be there12:29
DHGEget some older w32codec12:29
taavimm...how..?12:29
intelikeythat's system configs12:29
crossfireyea should be okay on the new kernal but u still get holes in it12:29
seanIs there a way to make java applications run better/quicker?12:30
crossfirenot sure never tried12:30
DHGEfrom http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/ work for me even on amd6412:30
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crossfireim using a dapper i386 on a amd 64 chip no problems at all12:31
crossfirenever do use the 64 version12:31
DHGEsean: http://www.google.com/search?q=compile+java12:31
intelikeyholy dog turds batman i can't use kde anymore, unless i reinstall the system or find a way to extract .deb's from the live cd....12:31
DHGEcrossfire: I do and play evil avis :-)12:32
crossfirelol12:32
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crossfirei play avis on i38612:32
crossfirenicely12:32
crossfireonly problem i had was the gdm interface load up failed once12:33
taavilucky you :P12:33
crossfirehehe not everything works 100%12:33
taaviyeah, but i want to see those animes..12:34
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crossfirelol anime fan then12:34
ubuntui have a partition problem - i have resized the filesystem on a partition to be 65 GB, the partition itself is 80 GB though. now i wanted to resize the partiton with parted (i've booted from a livecd), but i'm getting the following error: "Unable to satisfy all constraints on the partition." -- any other program i could try to resize?12:35
Healotubuntu, how many partitions on that disk?12:35
crossfiretry partition magic to make the partion and resolve them then retry12:35
ubuntuHealot: parted shows 2, numbered 1 and 312:35
ubuntuHealot: its a standard mac os x install12:36
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ubuntui tried parted, it resized the filesystem, but refuses to change the partition12:36
mark___hi, does anybody know if xgl causes problems with the nvidia tv-out?12:37
crossfireuse partition magic if you download it12:37
crossfireand restart ur pc and resize them before they boot12:37
Healotit's a mac :)12:37
Healothoho12:38
crossfirelol i forgot12:38
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crossfirethinking of other distros12:38
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Healotubuntu: could you list the device names of the disk partitions?12:39
gan|y|medhello again12:39
Healotsudo fdisk -l12:39
taavihow do i move multiple files in terminal?12:39
gan|y|medwhere is the speedstep entry in /proc?12:39
intelikeymac hoho's are uncommon as hen's teeth   and as hard to get a handle on as snake hips.  but as unattractive as chicken lips.12:39
ubuntuHealot: /dev/hda is the disk, /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda3 should be the partitions12:40
intelikey'well aint that as fine as frog hair split four ways'12:40
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Healotubuntu, can you use fdisk, familiar with it?12:40
ubuntuHealot: well actually /proc/partitions lists 4 already, which would explain a few things, however, i'm only seeing two in parted. must be something with the mac disklabel12:40
intelikeytaavi vm list of files to  destination/12:40
Leafwcan anyone explain how is the adept tag filter by drag'n'drop supposed to work? Can't drag anything in it from the smart/simple/all tag trees.12:41
taavithanks12:41
ubuntuHealot: yeah, of course. i know i could resize with fdisk, but it's a bit error prone, so i'd like to know what's going on first, before doing anything12:41
gan|y|medwhere can i see my actual cpu speed in /porc?12:41
gan|y|medproc12:41
ubuntugan|y|med: /proc/cpuinfo maybe?12:41
intelikeytaavi generally something like mv /location/*.txt /new/location/12:41
intelikeytaavi wild cards are cool wild cards are fun.12:42
DHGEtaavi: RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 320 x 240, ~15 fps, video: Indeo 5.0, audio: uncompressed PCM (mono, 11025 Hz) works NOT for me12:42
gan|y|medthx12:42
DHGERIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 656 x 480, 29.97 fps, video: DivX 5, audio: MPEG-1 Layer 3 (stereo, 44100 Hz) works12:42
DHGEboth are avis ...12:42
taavimm12:43
taaviok12:43
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gan|y|medthere must be some entry showing the speedstep info (T-state). do you know where it is?12:43
DHGEIndeo5: only sound (awful) - no video12:43
hansxhi12:43
intelikeytaavi also one can   find /base/dir -type f -name <wild cards> -exec mv {} /destination/ \;12:43
taaviinterlikey: mm whats that?12:43
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intelikeythat would move recursively found matches     more complex but useful.12:44
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taavidhge: but no avi works for me, and the do work on windows, which is most distressing12:44
intelikeyman find for more on that12:44
DHGEtaavi: I know - have the same "problem"12:44
schnepfihallo, habe ein problem mit meiner externen soundkarte, wer kann mir helfen?12:45
intelikeyfind is good find is fine12:45
taaviinterlikey: :P12:45
taaviinterlikey: waht are wild cards?12:45
schnepfi???12:46
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intelikeytaavi and yes i am lagging about half a minute....     wild cards = ? * .12:47
schnepfiwer sprichtn hier deutsch bitte12:47
hansxich :D12:47
schnepfihansx: kannst du mir mal helfen12:47
intelikey? matches any single char    * matches everything    . matches ......  i forgot.....12:47
schnepfi?12:47
hansxkenn mich nicht so gut aus, aber was hast fr ein problem?12:47
schnepfiich bekomm mein 5.1 system ber meine externe soundkarte nich zum laufen12:48
hansxpuh kann ich dir leider nicht weiterhelfen, hab auch soundprobleme12:49
Tm_Tkids, please use english12:49
Tm_T!de12:49
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de12:49
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schnepfiokok12:49
intelikeytaavi man bash       if you like the cli.  man bash is a must.12:49
schnepfican somebody help me, i have got a problem with my external soundcard12:50
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gan|y|medis there any way that linux (whatsoever) decreases the lifetime of a laptop battery (this is a SERIOUS question)?12:50
schnepfi can somebody help me, i have got a problem with my external soundcard12:51
schnepfi??12:51
Tm_Tschnepfi: sorry, I don't know much about external soundcards12:51
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schnepfiok12:52
Tm_Twhat I do know, is that repeating doesn't help you'r issue12:52
schnepfi^^12:52
Tm_Ts/you\'r/your/12:52
Tm_Tschnepfi: just have some patience, try to look around from wiki, forums etc12:53
intelikeygan|y|med it is possable.   it is also possable that linux (whatsoever) increase the life of a battrey      the way you set it up can make all the differance in the world.12:53
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schnepfii do have dude, but i have tried most of the advices which are mentioned in the wiki forums12:54
intelikeyschnepfi you can alos ask in #ubuntu    more folks in there.12:54
schnepfithx12:55
gan|y|medintelikey: so how to set it up. i just had to buy a ne one!12:55
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intelikeyalso ##linux is an unofficial linux support channel, which i often find more helpful than the official ones.12:55
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Swatgoss_frhi guys ?12:56
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intelikeygan|y|med ask specific questions about your hardware, and read the docs on what it can and can't do.   personally i don't know much about laptops.  i do know that linux is very; no extreemly, flexable and powerful.12:57
Swatgoss_frsomeone can give me the french channel (if it exist) ?12:58
gan|y|medwell, tell this to the guy from samsung when you ask for a battery for free :)12:58
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intelikeythus far i have never asked linux to do anything that it couldn't do.   and i have tried some really wierd stuff.   like making a filesystem on half a disk and a partition on the other half....  just one example.12:59
intelikey!fr12:59
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:59
Swatgoss_frthx/merci01:00
rgouveiaI'm trying to install amarok 1.4 on 6.06.1 following the instructions on kubuntu.org, but it I can't install because of dependencies on libs. Any ideas?01:00
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gan|y|medok, anybody here running unbuntu on a samsung x20?01:01
Swatgoss_frrunning on Fujitsu D7850 ...01:01
DHGErgouveia: install the dependencies - if you follow the intructions you get them automagically01:02
DHGEif not -what are the error messages?01:02
intelikeyeeeek   /who not a good command for large chanels.01:02
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DHGEgan|y|med: http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/samsung.html01:03
gan|y|medthx01:03
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Swatgoss_fr(probably stupid) how can i make an "updated" install CD for Kubuntu ?01:05
Swatgoss_frupdated with all new packets01:05
rgouveiaDHGE: no luck ... check the error here: http://rafb.net/paste/results/m1Jo6O23.html01:05
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nielshello everybdoy, someone experiencewith amarok and codecs?01:06
rgouveiaDHGE: this is what I followed: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.php01:06
Swatgoss_frbad experience accepted ?01:06
nielsjes01:07
DHGErgouveia: apt-get -f install01:07
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nielsthe problem is it doesn't play my .mp3 songs etc... but it plays my .ogg files ...:01:07
niels:(01:07
Swatgoss_frgot the same problem01:08
DHGEyou might need an updated KDE01:08
nielsand how do you do that?01:08
DHGE!codecs01:08
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:08
Swatgoss_frsome videos run, but without sound, or without sound/video and it plays 30x real time ...01:08
rgouveiaDHGE: still the same errors :-|01:09
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harmentalis there a way to hide xmms as amarok does?01:09
DHGErgouveia: only thing to say - it works for me and from your paste: you are doing the right things ... no clue here01:10
rgouveiaDHGE: right ... thx anyways01:10
DHGEharmental: ctrl-w (no REAL hiding) - put it on another destop01:10
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harmentalDHGE: thanks...but thats not what im looking for....i guess ill stick with amaroK just to keep my desktop clean...01:12
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nielscan somebody send me their sources.list file cos i think there is a fault in it01:13
ganymedsomebody told me about the samsung site one moment ago. could you do this again?01:14
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lwizardlhi01:15
ganymedplease01:15
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Swatgoss_frgan|y|med: http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/samsung.html i think its this page ?01:15
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DHGE!sources01:21
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource01:21
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Leafware there any cleanup scripts that must be run from time to time to flush tmp resources?01:22
lwizardlI have a pc running lts 6.06 lts and using kdm/kde for gui and now it's stuck in a login loop after amarok crashed, anyone know how to fix ?01:22
Leafwmy root partition is unexpectedly full01:22
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DHGELeafw: apt-get autoclean   read man apt-get01:22
LeafwDHGE: I know about apt-get clean01:23
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DHGElwizardl: log in as root on console - check the logs in /var/log01:23
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LeafwDHGE: I'm asking about others, perhaps core files, or who knows01:23
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tapashi01:23
tapasi wonder: is the libpam shipped with kubuntu 6.06 rtlimits aware?01:23
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DHGELeafw: nothing else to do manually, logrotate can be tweaked but not worth the bother IMO01:24
Leafwok01:25
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Leafwthen, is there any ballast that can be thrown away, such as rare fonts, example images, documentation ... ?01:25
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DHGELeafw: switch the view in konqueror (there is a nice graphical one that shows the spacehogs)01:28
Leafwtrue01:28
Leafwthanks01:28
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nagyvHello! I would like to set up a static mount point for my scsi removable devices. I am playing with udev for a while, but can not figure out how to do it. The device has two partitions, both are labeled. (David, Goliat)01:36
DHGEnagyv: I would not do that: mkdir mp in /media  and edit /etc/fstab    udev does all that fine for me ...01:38
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usuarioHi to all01:41
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couquinouxbonjour la France!01:43
Swatgoss_frviens sur #kubuntu-fr01:44
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yamalnagyv: you may be able to achieve that using hal (see /usr/share/hal/fdi/) to mount your drive based on the partition label01:44
nagyvDHGE: it doen't work for me. It mounts the partition under sdb1, althoug it works fine with $muont.01:44
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nagyvyamal: I don't really see what could I do with this :(01:45
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yamal!pastebin01:48
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:48
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yamalnagyv: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2044001:49
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yamalnagyv: this is from another install that uses /mnt as a prefix for the mountpoint by default... but you get the idea01:51
gebruikerhow do I know if I have :  Pentium-II/Celeron(pre-Coppermine) or Pentium-III/Celeron(Coppermine)/Pentium-III Xeon? From proc/cpuinfo shows  Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.13GHz but no info regarding  Coppermine, I know it's celeron...01:51
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nagyvyamal: and where should I add "this"01:52
tsdgeosgebruiker: that sounds like a Celeron based on P4 core, that is post-Coppermine01:52
tsdgeosbut not sure as it's much time i'm not uptodate on hardware01:53
Swatgoss_fryep 2.13GHz, no PIII reached this freq !01:53
Swatgoss_fror with a vapo ...01:53
yamalnagyv: as an fdi file somewhere under this /usr/share/hal/fdi/? stuff...01:53
yamalnagyv: haven't used it on ubuntu so far, so the rest is up to you to figure out :)01:54
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nagyvyamal: is there any man page or howto that you could point me to?01:54
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vltHello. I'm trying to install the packet sun-java5-plugin but get errors while unpacking the deb (with aptitude). What could I check now?01:57
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yamalnagyv: nothing specific but in general hal docs, any command starting with "hal-"01:59
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ubuntuI am not really ubuntu, I logged in via the Dapper live-cd02:00
vlt[installing java]  I found it: dkpg-reconfigure debconf and choose Dialog. Nessecary to present Sun's java licence ...02:00
yamalnagyv: but there must be some howto's out there, just search02:00
gebruikerhow do I know if I have :  Pentium-II/Celeron(pre-Coppermine) or Pentium-III/Celeron(Coppermine)/Pentium-III Xeon? From proc/cpuinfo shows  Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.13GHz but no info regarding  Coppermine, I know it's celeron...02:02
Swatgoss_frgebruiker > its a P4 based ...02:02
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Swatgoss_frno "stock" PIII reached this frequency02:03
nagyvyamal: thx, I do :)02:03
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ubuntuDoes the 5.04 PowerPC version of Ubuntu install disk also give the options of installing Open Source software like the Windows version does?02:04
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ubuntuI want to let a friend have my copy.02:04
Swatgoss_frwhere is libxine-extracodec ? which depot ?02:06
Healotmultiverse section, repos dapper02:07
Healot!info libxine-extracodecs02:07
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB02:07
Swatgoss_fri decommented all depos in my sources.list ... (not sources dep)02:08
Swatgoss_fr!info swatgoss_fr02:08
ubotuPackage swatgossfr does not exist in dapper02:08
Swatgoss_frlol02:08
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Swatgoss_frdapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse, i think it won t work with this one ?02:11
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asimonSwatgoss_fr: No, you need a similar line but with dapper instead of dapper-backports02:11
JucatoSwatgoss_fr: you have to add the word "multiverse" to the line that has "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe"02:12
Swatgoss_fri just made them02:12
Swatgoss_fri changed universe with multiverse02:12
Swatgoss_frwill work ?02:12
JucatoSwatgoss_fr: no need to change universe to multiverse. just add multiverse so that it will look like "universe multiverse"02:12
Swatgoss_frdeb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse02:12
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JucatoSwatgoss_fr: make it "deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse"02:13
Swatgoss_frok02:13
Healotwithout the quotes, and I suggest you put all the sections in on line02:13
Healotpretty easy to do02:13
Jucatoerr.. sorry about that... forgot to mention "without the quotes"02:14
yamalanybody know a ddccontrol package for ubuntu?02:14
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narvik86yamal: what is ddc?02:14
yamalit's for controlling lcd monitors without osd/buttons02:14
Swatgoss_fris there some user of Right mark clock control tool ?02:15
Swatgoss_fri mean the one for mobile CPUs02:15
narvik86yamal: i have crt so dont know02:15
Swatgoss_fr(under windows)02:15
asimonyamal: xresprobe contains ddcprobe, I am not sure if that's what you are looking for02:15
yamalasimon: what i'm looking for is a package of the program found at http://ddccontrol.sourceforge.net/02:16
Jucatooh cool! asimon's here. :-D02:16
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asimonyamal: Google came up with a ubuntu package here:  http://download.ubuntu.pl/ddccontrol/02:17
asimonJucato: Hi :)02:17
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yamalasimon: your google skills are beyond mine :)02:18
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SocketCreepDoes anyone know if the 5.04 PowerPC version of Ubuntu install disk also give the options of installing Open Source software like the Windows version does?02:19
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Swatgoss_frSocketCreep: why cant u install open source soft on linux ?02:20
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intelikeyi'm looking for good non-kde non-gnome specific  apps ?    any sujestions ?02:20
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intelikeySwatgoss_fr linux is opensource02:21
matthiastest02:21
matthiasexit02:21
Jucatointelikey: what kind of app?02:21
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Healotgnu/linux is open "sauce" :)02:21
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asimonsauce is good.02:21
Swatgoss_frintelikey :p02:21
Healotsauce as in sauce pan, flying saucer02:22
Swatgoss_frintelikey i know ... its an questionning answer for SocketCreep02:22
asimonHealot: oops02:22
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Healotasimon, just making it sa\ounds like "free as in free speech" hehe02:22
intelikeyJucato all kinds.   editing audio file management you name it.  if you have used it and like it.  i'd like to hear about it.02:23
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intelikeySwatgoss_fr yes retorical.02:23
intelikeySwatgoss_fr i stand under you.02:23
catholikoshi all02:23
SocketCreepI have a friend who has a powerpc. He cannot open ms docs without paying for the software. I want to know if the powerpc 5.04 disk gives the option to install a power pc Open Office02:23
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catholikosi want to copy from cd to desktop02:24
catholikosbut cd owns root02:24
catholikos???02:24
Healotopen office can do MS Office files02:24
Swatgoss_fri think too02:24
Healotand it's free and comes with ubuntu02:24
Swatgoss_frOOo can open large kind of docs02:24
Healotespecially MS Office documents02:25
Healotpopular free replacement02:25
JucatoI think he's asking if the 5.04 installer contains the Windows installers for OO.o and other stuff02:25
SocketCreepHealot, yes, but does the powerpc version let Open Office install to OSX02:25
Jucatoerr.. sorry02:25
Healotnot to OSX, to ubuntu it self?02:25
SocketCreepno, to osx02:25
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Healotno, different binaries02:25
Swatgoss_fru mean with the installer on CD02:26
SocketCreepmy friend has a powerpc. I have the power pc unbuntu02:26
HealotSocketCreep, OO has binaries for Mac OS X though02:26
Healotiirc....02:26
JucatoI think it would be best if you just gave your friend a copy of the OpenOffice.org installer for PPC, if he/she couldn't download it himself/herself02:26
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SocketCreepI will give him the powerpc disks.02:27
Healothttp://porting.openoffice.org/mac/ooo-osx_downloads.html >> OO for OS X (X Windows), SocketCreep02:27
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SocketCreepOK, thanks everyone.02:27
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hume_hi....how can I make konqueror show images as a gallery? on some machines this is an option beside viewing as icons and list, but not on this laptop?02:28
asimonhume_: I think you need to install konq-plugins for the gallery plugin02:28
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intelikeyi don't know if this is going to crash at some later point.   hehhe but i have made a symlink  ln -s /bin/true /usr/bin/perl    :)   perl monkeys pissed me off, and i won't have perl anything.     at least until i get over it.... in a year or two.02:29
Jucatoor just preview the image then use the buttons on the toolbars to move to the next/previous images?02:29
hume_Jucato, preview, how?02:30
asimonintelikey: Some debian scripts use perl.02:30
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intelikeyasimon not on this system.02:30
intelikey:)02:30
asimonintelikey: hehe02:31
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Jucatohume_: try right-clicking on the image and select Preview in ...02:31
torzquestion regarding linux sort, I see in the manual that by doing "sort -m file1 file2 > output" it can merge two sets of sorted files. I'd really like to use this program but my files contain triples and are sorted by the first token. How can I tell sort to merge based on those values?02:31
hume_Jucato, ok, got that one02:32
Jucatohume_: is that what you were looking for?02:32
intelikeystill looking for non-kde/gnome specific apps that i might like     anyone have favorites they would like to mention ?02:32
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Jucatohm.... intelikey, could you narrow the question down? :-D02:32
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intelikeylike xterm aterm eterm   gentoo <other filemanagers>   xedit abiword     you name it.02:33
intelikeyjust as long as it doesn't depend on gnome or kde02:33
Jucatoerrr.. abiword is GTK+ based02:33
Jucatoit's part of GNOME Office iirc02:34
intelikeyyou get the idea.    and gtk != kde02:34
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intelikeygnome ^02:34
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Jucatoyeah but GNOME (and Xfce) uses GTK, so GNOME and GTK apps basically use the same libraries...02:35
sorush20anyone here familiar with using checkinstall , if so why is it that it will not detect the /doc folder of my installation ?02:35
Jucatooh well... some non-kde/non-GNOME (but GTK) apps I know: Xara LX, Inkscape, Audacity, XMMS02:36
asimonhume_: An other nice way for browsing picture is gwenview, it's an image viewer/browser and installed by default.02:36
intelikeyJucato i'm not against using gtk or qt  just don't want the standard kde/gnome apps.      see ?02:36
hume_asimon, got the konq-plugins installed, but no gallery function in konqueror02:36
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asimonI define an Gnome application as an application which links against a library containing 'gnome' in it's name ;-)02:37
Jucatointelikey: yep. Just be aware that not everything in Ubuntu is actually the standard GNOME apps. For example, the standard GNOME web browser is actually Epiphany, not Firefox02:37
Jucatoasimon: there are no gnome libs, iirc. there are g* libs, though02:37
Jucato:-D02:37
intelikeyput another way.    anything good   that    apt-get install kde/gnome  wont get.02:37
intelikeylibgnomecups1.0-1 libgnomeprint2.2-0 libgnomeprint2.2-data libgnomeprintui2.2-0 libgnomeprintui2.2-common <--- abiword depends on....02:38
Jucatooh yeah... i stand corrected02:38
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intelikey:)02:38
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Jucatothere are GNOME libs02:38
Jucato(but I didn't give Abiword as an example, did I?)02:38
intelikey<Jucato> errr.. abiword is GTK+ based02:39
asimonhume_: Well there is View->View Mode->Image View. That wasn't what you meant?02:39
intelikey<Jucato> it's part of GNOME Office iirc02:39
intelikeyJucato no   i did.02:39
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intelikeyat any rate got any favorites ?02:39
intelikeypaul is one.02:40
Jucatoerr.... I was actually saying that Abiword doesn't fall under the category you were looking for (non-GNOME, non-KDE).. anyway, moving on...02:40
intelikeygentoo is another.02:40
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intelikeyJucato yes i got that.02:40
Jucatohmm..02:40
Jucatolet me see. Xara LX uses wxWidgets, I think, so that's one02:41
hume_asimon, yeah, just that there is no "Image view" in view mode02:41
JucatoI'm not entirely sure what VLC uses02:41
tkconsidering VLC works on windows as well, I doubt its KDE or Gnome specific...02:42
JucatoXMMS and Audacity use GTK 1, last I remember, so you could probably scratch them out02:42
tkjust a wild guess02:42
Jack1hi kde annoys me when closing a session it reopens the apps next time exactly as they where even though they are in autostart folder..so they are often twice then..eg kontact02:42
djclue917_Jucato: VLC has a wxWidgets front-end...02:42
JucatoJack1: System Settings > KDE Components > Session Manager > start from an empty session02:42
intelikeyi like vlc02:42
Jucatodjclue917_: thanks02:42
asimonhume_: You have installed konq-plugins? Start another konquerer, it should then be there.02:42
Jucatointelikey: not necessarily true. Inkscape, the GIMP, and GAIM are GTK based, but they can also be installed in Windows.02:43
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Swatgoss_frKubuntu use CUPS, right N02:44
Swatgoss_fr?02:44
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asimonSwatgoss_fr: yes02:44
Jack1Jucato: well but i actually want that as it is..just that kde knows :dont reopen if already in autostart..any fix for that?02:44
Swatgoss_frnot LPr or gcc ?02:44
intelikeyJucato did you misaddress that ?02:44
intelikeyJucato all i said about vlc is that i like it.02:44
Jucatointelikey: I think I did. sorry about that. it was for tk :-D02:45
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intelikeySwatgoss_fr default *buntu uses cups02:45
Swatgoss_frok thx02:45
JucatoJack1: If you put something in the Autostart folder, but didn't close that app before you logged out/restarted/shut down, it will really open twice (the saved session + a new session). So you either turn off session saving or you keep session saving but remove those apps from the Autostart folder02:46
intelikeySwatgoss_fr and  cupsys  more specifically     i think that's a cups+cupsd package with ubuntu configs   but i haven't really checked.02:47
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intelikeylpr is good.02:47
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intelikeylpr + printop   maybe ???02:48
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Swatgoss_frintelikey: its just because some1 asked me if he need CUPS, LPr or gcc driver for hes printer02:50
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intelikeyheres one.   mozilla-mailnews02:50
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intelikeySwatgoss_fr wi02:50
Shan_how do I update my ati drivers?02:51
ibert_hi! I'm looking for a tool/way to manage NFS mounts on Laptop. Is autofs state od the art, or are there more resent approaches?02:51
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intelikey!ati02:51
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto02:51
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Shan_ta02:52
intelikeynot sure that will help you any.  but i don't have ati02:53
intelikeyinstalling a list of apps now.  back addrwhile02:54
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vltHi. I just installed java5-plugin. I tworks in firefox but not in Konqueror (I set the path to /usr/bin/java). What else do I have to do to get java working with Konqueror?02:59
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jordan_88hi03:00
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Jucatovlt: go to Konqueror > Settings menu > Configure Konqueror > Plugins options03:01
Jucatoerr.. scratch that03:01
Jucatosorry, thinking of flash...03:01
jordan_88can I remobe konqueror and install tunder ?03:01
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jordan_88*remove03:01
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jordan_88in KDE ofcourse03:02
Jucatojordan_88: you can install thunar and just leave Konqueror. But I'm not sure how to set Thunar as the default file manager03:02
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jordan_88Jucato  I want"s default it :/03:03
JucatoBtw, Thunar has no Trash management for now, so things you delete will be permanently deleted03:03
gebruikerI'm compiling a costum kernel, what do i need to enable to keep that nice booting loading screen on kubuntu?03:03
Jucatoand you're going to miss out on a lot of KDE features.03:03
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vltJucato: That way I activated the flashplugin-nonfree package ... But how to activate java?03:05
jordan_88how to remove enemy territory (all config ) ?03:05
orasis1Is "apt-get", like a console version of Synaptic?03:06
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vltI cannot use http://map24.com with Konqueror. Can anyone confirm that?03:06
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Swatgoss_frpage start loading03:06
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Swatgoss_frand load :p03:07
Swatgoss_frit work on my konqueror03:07
Jucatovlt: I'm not really sure. when I installed java, it was immediately recognized and activated in Konqueror. are you sure you have enabled Java globally?03:07
Jack1Jucato: HEY when i do what u say and then use in advanced exclude from behaviour: it works03:07
vltJucato: Yes.03:07
Jack1Jucato:03:07
Jack1i wouldnt have thought that that was refering to that but ok03:08
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orasis1Oh yeah, is there any good audio editors in Linux, comparable to Sound Forge, or the former "cool edit" which is now Adobe audition? :)03:08
jordan_88how to remove enemy territory (all config ) ?03:09
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Swatgoss_frenemy teritory is on linux ?03:09
Jucatovlt: working here, too. except I have my own Java problem so applet problem so...03:09
Swatgoss_frwow i'm retarded ...03:09
jordan_88Swatgoss_fr ofcourse03:09
Swatgoss_frsome links ???03:10
Swatgoss_frwanna try !03:10
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vltJucato: http://map24.com is working with your Konqueror and sun-java5-plugin from multiverse? How did you do that?03:10
jordan_88i have problem becouse I'm useing windows config and etpro configurate but the don't wokr on linux :/03:10
nick_hello, do someone know, i've there is a program for linux to make flash files?03:11
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jontydoghi all its me again pestering03:11
osh_nick_: yes there is. hang on. I'll search my brain for a bit.03:12
jontydoghaving a problem with adept when I open it I get this error message03:12
nick_ok osh!! thanks03:12
jontydogYou will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.03:12
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Jucatojontydog: try typing this in Konsole: "sudo dpkg --configure -a"03:13
nick_maybe your konsole is still running03:13
jontydogas root or user?03:13
Jucatojontydog: just open Konsole normally, and type in that command03:13
Jucatowithout the quotes03:13
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jordan_88what's comend remove protect folder03:14
Jucatovlt: maybe you need to set the default java version? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#head-fef9352fb26820bb774df978180c9dd3a60e777b03:14
jontydogahh can it happen thru an aborted install jucato?03:14
Jucatojontydog: yeah it usually does. what were you trying to isntall btw?03:15
jontydogvmware03:15
jontydogwhen I typed that command in it mentioned vmware03:15
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Jucatojontydog: install vmware-player on the command line. It won't work in Adept03:16
Jucatojontydog: but anyway, it's probably continuing the installation?03:16
jontydogseems to have finished now03:16
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jontydogbut I also get this error message03:16
jontydogFailed to open device03:17
jontydogX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16903:17
nick_-osh-: have you find the name?? i've looked on the www but i haven't find anything03:17
jontydogI get that regularly03:17
Jucatojontydog: you get that regularly when?03:17
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jontydogdifferent times jucato03:17
jontydogbut only in Konsole03:17
Jucatojontydog: but the app still launches?03:18
jontydogyes03:18
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Jucatowell, then there's no problem. I heard that those "error" messages are normal03:18
vltJucato: Ok, I set update-java-alt... to sun, restarted Konqueror but it still doesn't work. Any idea?03:18
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Jucatohmm...03:20
Jucatorunning out of ideas...03:20
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vltJucato: Will try setting java path from /usr/bin/java back to java ...03:20
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jontydogcheers jucato problem solved03:20
jontydogI need to get a book on linux03:20
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Jucatojontydog: ehehe! no problem, but that particular problem of yours isn't a general Linux problem. more of an Adept issue03:21
vltJucato: No, didn't work either ...03:21
jontydog:)03:21
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osh_nick_: Sorry, can't find it. Very annoying since I saw it just a few months ago. Someone did a demo where they created a flash-film on how to do various tasks in linux. Very slick. Can't find it now though.03:22
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nick_it's nothing03:23
vltDOes anyone know what to do to enable java in konqueror? I already did: `sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin`, `sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-1.5.0-sun`, restart Konqueror. What did I miss (it's working in firefox)?03:24
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gnomefreakvlt: you have to add the path in the prefferences03:25
gnomefreakvlt: go into the prefferences and i will show you03:25
vltgnomefreak: Is it /usr/bin/java?03:25
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gnomefreakhold on its longer than that ill give it to you in a sec03:26
gnomefreak/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.07/jre/lib/i38603:26
gnomefreakvlt: thats the path03:26
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jontydogwhat do I need to type in kommand to install vmware jucato?03:30
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Jucatosudo apt-get install vmware-player03:31
jontydogcheers m803:31
vltgnomefreak: "No such file o directory." But there's /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.06/jre/lib/i386/. I replaced it, restarted Konqueror and ... it still doesn't work.03:32
gnomefreakvlt: oh your java isnt up to date03:32
gnomefreakvlt: did you choose that java in update-alternatives?03:33
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Jucatosudo update-alternatives --config java03:33
Jucatoor is it java_vm???03:33
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gnomefreakyou have it right03:33
vltgnomefreak: -l shows me "java-1.5.0-sun 53 /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun"03:33
osh_nick_: Have a look at this: http://www.camstudio.org/03:34
gnomefreakvlt: type sudo update-alternatives --config java03:34
osh_nick_: Might be what you're looking for. I think it's the one I was thinking about.03:34
vltgnomefreak: Ok, chose "3" for sun's java ...03:35
gnomefreakyes03:35
sorush20is anyone here using kmymoney?03:35
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hume_is there a way to automatically run a shellscript on log in? I'd need to autmount sshfs03:36
gnomefreakwhen thats done open konq. go to configure konq. than go to java/java script add the path to the last line/space but erase whats in there first03:36
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TeenaHallo :)03:37
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Teenamay i ask you something? :)03:38
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Jucato??03:39
Teena:)03:39
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TeenaHow to setup PPPoE under kubuntu? :)03:40
JucatoTeena: open up Konsole, then type in "sudo pppoeconf" (without the quotes)03:40
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vltgnomefreak: OK, I set java path in konq's settings to "/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java". That was the last line of update-java...'s output. Still doesn't work.03:40
yamalhume_: check out pam_mount (config in /etc/security)03:40
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jordan_88how to serch files in consol ?03:41
hume_yamal, how do you mean, check out?03:41
vltjordan_88: man find03:41
yamalhume_: as in, see if it fits your needs03:42
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vltjordan_88: man grep (if you want to look inside the files)03:42
Jucatojordan_88: or "locate <filename". you can also use it in Konqueror: locate:/<filename>03:43
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vltgnomefreak: Java still doesn't work in konqueror, firefox is fine.03:45
gnomefreakvlt: that isnt the right path03:45
vltgnomefreak: Why could my java be not up to date?03:45
jordan_88how to restart KDE useing consol ?03:45
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vltgnomefreak: I'll try the first one ...03:46
gnomefreak/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.06/jre/lib/i38603:46
Swatgoss_frjordan_88: restart ? gui ? or all system ?03:46
gnomefreakvlt: if you have .06 this path is what you want to use03:46
Jucatognomefreak:  would you happen to know how I can keep Konqueror from launching Java applets in a separate, borderless window?03:47
Swatgoss_frjordan_88ur in console mode only ? and u want to start/restart KDE interface ?03:47
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Swatgoss_frjordan_88: try typing "X"03:47
windhow do i automatically connect to a wireless secured network when i bootup?03:47
windand whats a good ftp client?03:48
Jucatojordan_88: if you want to simply restart X (which also abruptly closes KDE), just press Ctrl+Alt+Backspace.03:48
gnomefreakJucato: not off hand but the configure konq. settings should have it (dont look for java look for opening in a new window)03:48
gnomefreaki think its under web behavour03:48
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Jucatohmm...03:49
gnomefreakvlt: are you on a 386?03:49
JucatoI'll check it out.03:49
jordan_88Jucato I'm useing fglrx so it's problem to corect use cltr + ALt + Backspace03:49
vltgnomefreak: k703:49
gnomefreakvlt: that would be why03:49
hume_yamal, i find some info about the pam_mount and sshfs, but it does not seem to work very easily - do you have any more info or know about specific solutions?03:50
gebruikerWhat options do I need configuring a costum kernel) enabeling the kubuntu splash boot screen?03:50
gnomefreakvlt: remove the 386 from it and add k703:50
gebruikerWhat options do I need configuring a costum kernel) enabeling the kubuntu splash boot screen?03:50
TeenaJucato thanx! :D03:50
archangel__is there p2p software for linux?03:50
Jack1Jucato:03:50
vltgnomefreak: s/i386/k7 in the path???03:50
gnomefreakarchangel__: yes limewire frostwire amule .....03:50
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Jucatoarchangel__: I think there's amule and limewire03:51
archangel__cool thanks03:51
gnomefreakvlt: yes take 386 out and put k7 in its place03:51
yamalhume_: no, other than read through /etc/security/pam_mount.conf, it has alot of comments. I just use pam_mount for mounting encrypted home dir on login.03:51
Jack1Jucato: when i want to open a port in firestarter and do add rule  i need to specify my ip.but hwat do i in case it is assigned so i get different ones evrytime i cnnect?03:51
Jucatognomefreak: nothing I do changes it... it's weird coz the applets launch normally in Firefox and in MEPIS03:51
vltgnomefreak: There is no such path in my system ...03:51
JucatoJack1: err.. I'm not familiar with firewalls...03:51
jontydoggrr still having probs with vmware03:51
Jack1Jucato: ok thx03:52
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archangel__can ubuntu use RPM's?03:52
gnomefreakvlt: locate java | less    than look for a path that looks like the one i gave you (the 386 should be something else but the rest of path should be same)03:52
vltgnomefreak: Sorry, that was wrong: I'm currently on 2.6.15-26-386 ...03:52
jontydogE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)------- Get that error msg now installing vmware03:52
gnomefreakok than use the one i gave you03:52
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gnomefreakJucato: under behaveour what do you have checked03:53
osh_archangel__: yes, through someting called "alien" but do try to use debs if possible.03:53
archangel__ok03:53
archangel__thanks03:54
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djclue917Jack1: what do you want to do with Firestarter?03:54
Jack1open a port for amule03:54
Jack1djclue917: open a port for amule03:54
Jucatognomefreak: open new tabs in background, confirm when closing windows with multiple tabs, open popups in new tabs, open as tab in existing Konqueror.03:54
osh_nick_: did you test that flash-creater-thingy?03:55
djclue917Jack1: inbound, outbound, or both?03:55
Jucatognomefreak: it's not really launching a real "window". it's like the java applet jumps out of the window and launches by itself03:55
gnomefreakJucato: uncheck open popups in new tab03:55
hume_is there a way to run a program on kde startup, similar to the gnome startup program in "Sessions"?03:55
gnomefreakJucato: than im not sure in a  few hours i will play with it but i cant atm03:55
Jucatognomefreak: I already did. It's not really launching a real "window". it's like the java applet jumps out of the window and launches by itself, when the applet is supposed to be embedded within the web page03:56
sorush2hi guys ,03:56
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Jucatognomefreak: ok thanks. this is really bugging me :-D03:56
djclue917Jucato: I think there's nothing we could do about that.. :(03:56
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djclue917Jucato: about the Java applet thing03:56
vltgnomefreak: So kernel is 2.6.15-26-386, path is /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.06/jre/lib/i386/ (it exists) but it's not working. Why could my java be not up to date?03:56
sorush2from this paste how do I find out which drivers I should use for my graphics card?03:56
sorush2http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/03:56
sorush2http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2044903:57
Jucatodjclue917: ehehe I wonder why... it's another thing that works fine in Konqueror on MEPIS... and in Firefox on Kubuntu03:57
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Jack1djclue917: forward servcice, this is inbound right?03:57
gnomefreakvlt: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade03:57
osh_hume_: have a look in $HOME/.kde/Autostart03:57
djclue917Jucato: it's ok with Firefox. i don't know with Konqueror..03:57
djclue917Jack1: you mean port forwarding?03:57
hume_osh_, thks03:57
sorush2is high defenition audio available yet on alsa?03:57
jordan_88Et don't return to  resolution of deskop when Im exit03:57
jordan_88?03:57
Jack1djclue917: i wanna do this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9204603:57
Jack1djclue917: but i cannot specify my ip03:58
vltgnomefreak: System is updated. (K)ubuntu Dapper 6.06 ...03:58
djclue917Jack1: why do you need port forwarding? is the aMule client installed in another machine that is connected to your machine?03:58
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djclue917Jack1: ok. I'll take a look.03:58
Jack1djclue917: isnt that the normal way? sry i have never really used amule before03:58
osh_Jack1: www.freenetproject.org. That and "Frost" and you've got yourself a "safe" filesharing app.03:59
djclue917Jack1: I'm not familiar with aMule since I don't use it. I use Azureus and other BT clients however..03:59
Jack1djclue917: i see not forwarding needed ok03:59
djclue917Jack1: does aMule need an inbound port open?03:59
djclue917Jack1: so that other users could connect to your PC?04:00
Jack1djclue917:  apparentyl yes04:00
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djclue917Jack1: oh i see..04:00
Jack1so what its safe to use? azureus? frost?04:00
djclue917Jack1: the default behavior of Firestarter is to allow all outbound traffic. the inbound traffic is what's really being filtered.04:00
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XVampireXfreenet is infested with stuff people shouldn't look at04:01
djclue917Jack1: so you need to open an inbound port. I guess it is 4662 according to the post04:01
gnomefreakvlt: .06 seems to be latest for dapper i had .07 on dapper but i had gotten it from suns site. please install sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin   than add the path to konq again.04:01
Jack1djclue917: yes but how?or should i better have azureus?04:01
XVampireXazureus is for bit torrent04:01
djclue917Jack1: Azurues is a BitTorrent client. aMule is for eDonkey networks04:02
gnomefreakill brb while you are installing it04:02
djclue917Jack1: Allow service: eDonkey | Port: 4662 | For: everyone04:02
djclue917Jack1: try that setting and see if it will work..04:02
djclue917don't forget to click the "Apply Policy" button. ;-)04:03
vltgnomefreak: sun-java5-plugin (and -bin and -jre) is installed.04:03
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osh_Jack1: frost is something on top of freenet. freenet is very safe, but it's dog slow. bittorrent is not safe but VERY fast. amule is somewhere in between. or more like kind of slow and unsafe.04:03
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djclue917osh_: it's not like that you know...04:04
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Jack1osh_: well when i dont use it i could at least close the ports its not that i have it evry day open04:05
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vltgnomefreak: I did a "test your JVM" test on java.com. Error message in the applet window is (translated): "Error: executable program for java not found".04:05
osh_djclue917: what's not like that? it's a generalization but it's somewhat true.04:05
djclue917Jack1: you can't do away with opening ports when you use the Internet...04:05
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djclue917osh_: no it isn't. what made you generalize that BitTorrent networks are fast and not secure04:06
Jack1djclue917: sure but i could close the amule ports at least04:06
djclue917osh_: BitTorrent swarm speeds depend on the number of seeders, peers, and some other factors.04:06
djclue917Jack1: well you could do that if you're really paranoid about security. ;-004:07
djclue917;-)04:07
windhow do i get kasablanca to save the ftp info?04:07
windlike the host and user/pw04:07
Jack1djclue917: hmm it wont work04:07
osh_djclue917: what's not true about that? they are fast, no doubt about that. and all IP's are visible to anyone who connects to that swarm so it's not safe (if you download illegal stuff that is).04:07
Jack1djclue917: upload works no download04:07
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djclue917osh_: well let's see.. How fast do you think is a BitTorrent network when: there the seeder to peer ratio is 1:1,000,000, and the tracker is down. tell me...04:09
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osh_Jack1: you sure you're just not in a queue somewhere? that's usually what happens when I try amule.04:09
Jack1osh_: well i see the yellow arrow its possible probably i have not interesting enought stuff04:10
Jack1osh_: honestly i dont know04:10
gebruikerguys could any of you help me out?04:10
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Jack1osh_: which server should one choose? with the smallest ping time?04:10
djclue917Jack1: you might want to look at Firestarter's log.04:10
djclue917Jack1: or even at the kernel log to see if connections are being blocked..04:11
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osh_djclue917: sure, bring up some weird ass case to prove your point. fact of the matter is that it really is fast, most of the time. I was making a generalization, and in those you disregard the odd "special cases".04:12
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osh_Jack1: I always used the ones with the most connected peers, second choice was low ping.04:13
djclue917osh_: the fact is that BitTorrent networks are REALLY dependent on the number of seeds and peers. you can't argue with that...04:13
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alex_yocan somebody tell me how to install a new themestyle in kde?04:15
osh_djclue917: so how would you generally categorize a bittorrent swarm to freenet? fast or slow?04:15
djclue917osh_: so you're asking me to generalize something that can't be generalized?04:16
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osh_djclue917: can't be generalized? so, if you were to distribute some large file to the world, what would you use? bittorrent or freenet?04:18
soulriderdjclue917: i believe bittorrent is superior to any toher network ive tried04:18
soulriderat least it work a lot better than any others for me04:18
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osh_djclue917: generally speaking bittorrent IS faster than any other. There are exceptions, I don't deny that, but most of the time bittorrent swarms ARE fast.04:19
soulriderindeed04:20
soulriderespecially in private trackers04:20
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soulriderwhere everyones goal is to seed as much as theyc an04:20
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alex_yocan somebody tell me how to install a new themestyle in kde?04:20
alex_yo??04:21
soulridersystem settings > appearance04:21
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Jucatoerr...04:21
Jucatoalex_yo: do you mean the Theme/Style from KDE-Look?04:21
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alex_yoyes04:22
osh_alex_yo: if you've got it from kde-look.org you might need to do a "configure; make; make install"04:22
alex_yo?04:22
Jucatoalex_yo: yes. you would probably have to compile it, or install it like a .deb file04:22
Jucatoalex_yo: can you point out the particular Theme/Style?04:22
soulrider!plasmoids04:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about plasmoids - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:23
alex_yo-look.org/content/show.php?content=40492&PHPSESSID=9668da50511cbf9f3027e247fa7a0f66)04:23
alex_yo40797-Glossyk.tar.gz04:23
alex_yoand now?04:23
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Jucatoalex_yo: the link you pasted... well... it's not clickable..04:24
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osh_alex_yo: http://tinyurl.com -> to make long urls short.04:25
chavoalex_yo, that's a kopet style04:25
chavokopete04:25
alex_yohttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=40797&PHPSESSID=6f9bf895def3c8b9502388ca8cc7339004:25
Jucatoalex_yo: it's a Kopete style, not a KDE Theme/Style04:26
Jucatoalex_yo: just download the .tar.gz and put it somewhere04:26
alex_yoyes04:26
Jucatoalex_yo: then once, it's finished downloading, open up Kopete, go to Settings > Configure Kopete > Appearance options > Chat Window tab04:27
Jucatoalex_yo: click on Install and look for the .tar.gz you download. that's all there is to it04:27
alex_yoi have kde04:28
Jucatoalex_yo: that "style" is a theme for Kopete, the KDE Instant Messaging/IRC Client04:28
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Jucatoalex_yo: that style won't apply to the whole of KDE. only to Kopete04:30
soulrider!aero04:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about aero - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:30
rgouveiais anybody here responsible for the website?04:31
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Jucatorgouveia: which website?04:31
rgouveiakubuntu.org04:32
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JucatoI'm not sure they're around. what's the problem?04:32
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ninHerhi all04:33
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rgouveiaJucato: I think http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.php should mention that you need to have univerve and multiverse reps on sources.list. I had probs today installing it cause I didn't have those04:35
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Jucatorgouveia: yeah. let me see...04:35
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Sp4rKyhi04:38
Sp4rKyplease how QTDIR should be set ?04:38
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djclue917!pastebin04:42
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)04:42
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job0000hi i've just upgraded from breezy to dapper but my taskbar has disappeared does anybody know how I can get it back?04:57
windhow come amarak won't play my mp3s?04:59
LeeJunFanjob0000: if you alt-f2 and run kicker does it come back?04:59
windi click on the mp3, it goes down the whole list then says playlist finished04:59
Jucatowind: you need to install the proper codecs for it04:59
glen_wind: search for amarok-xine04:59
fritsch!RestrictedFormats > wind04:59
windthanks04:59
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about RestrictedFormats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:59
Jucatoactually it's libxine-extracodecs04:59
Jucatoit's in the multiverse repository04:59
job0000leefunjun: no it dosen't05:00
LeeJunFanwind: what Jucato says - and after you install that quit amarok and re-start it.05:00
dadsi need help installin video drivers05:00
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fritschwind: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats05:00
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windk thanks05:00
LeeJunFanjob0000: I have a feeling some part of your upgrade didn't go so smooth. Did you upgrade with apt-get dist-upgrade? you might want to run apt-get -f install05:00
job0000leejunfun: i followed the instructions from http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper edited sources.list the ru apg-get update, upgrade and dist-upgrade05:03
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LeeJunFanjob0000: sometimes nested dependancies don't allow apt-get dist-upgrade to get everything in one pass, you can try running apt-get dist-upgrade again, then apt-get -f install. And if neither of them do any further installing or errors when you run them then everything should be installed okay.05:04
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job0000leejunfan: ok thanks will try that05:05
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LeeJunFanjob0000: in that case try creating a brand new user and see if that user get's a kicker. If the new user does get one, the it's probably some setting specific to your current user that's screwing things up.05:05
windhey does anyone have the hinder album05:06
windthe latest one05:06
windor half that first song get stoned05:06
windis the track suppose to just drop in the middle and play something completely different?05:07
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windthen start abck up for the last 40-50 sec05:07
juliohola05:07
gebruikerHow is 3.5.4 runnig?05:08
Jucatogenerally ok... with a few quirks here and there...05:08
gebruikerwhat are the known bugs then?05:09
Jucatohmm... one of the devs confirmed the bug I'm experiencing, where partitions that aren't mounted at startup don't appear in media:/05:10
LeeJunFanJucato: you running edgy or dapper? I haven't had that issue with mine.05:11
JucatoDapper, KDE 3.5.405:11
Jucatoit's not a problem that a lot of people are having. but a dev did say that there was a slight problem with KDE 3.5.4 and Kubuntu's HAL05:12
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Bernardohi05:12
LeeJunFanJucato: same here. Perhaps I just haven't hit it yet. After I upgraded of course it mounts my externals now with /media/usbdisk[#]  instead of the devname.05:12
Jucatoah yes, mine too.05:13
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BernardoI'm having lots of problems with samba as PDC on kubuntu dapper (no ldap), as I'm now unable to add another kubuntu dapper machine to the domain. It has worked before, and I have another kubuntu dapper and a windows machine added to that domain. Any ideas?05:17
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LeeJunFanBernardo: make sure only one of your kubuntu machines is set to force election and that the real master has a higher os level05:19
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LeeJunFanBernardo: and only one is set to be a browse master.05:20
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thygrrrHello! Any clues on how to get my ATAPI DVD+/-R drive to support UDMA? The standard ATAPI driver doesn't seem to do anything, and I can'T find the right packages for scsi emulation. (I'm rather clueless about this, unfortunately)05:24
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LeeJunFanthygrrr: hdparm /dev/[devname]  shows dma as off?05:27
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thygrrrHm.05:27
BernardoLeeJunFan: yes, both check. and as I wrote, it used to work. I had the machine I can't join to the domain now working perfectly05:28
thygrrrIt says udma is on. Apparently, it's the transport that the cd burning program uses? A friend showed me some info document that said that "there's no udma support" for a certain feature, and that one should be using SCSI.05:28
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BernardoI've now removed the machine account from smbpasswd, and did a userdel to remove all traces of it, and tried adding it again05:29
LeeJunFanthygrrr: hrm, dunno about that.05:29
Bernardoand it fails, but creates those entries (smbpasswd, shadow and passwd) back05:29
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_Shade_how can i install software from nomachine.com on dapper ?05:32
LeeJunFanBernardo: on this detached machine if you run smbclient -L localhost at the bottom where it shows workgroups and masters is the right master listed?05:32
thygrrrWow, according to K3b, my drive suports dual layer. That's kind of a surprise, actually... I'm sceptic.05:32
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LeeJunFanthygrrr: due to a firewire communication error my external DVD writer once reported as being able to burn DVD's at 60x :p05:33
zblachhey all. quick question. kmobiletools; does it work with bluetooth?05:34
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BernardoLeeJunFan: if I run "smbclient -L localhost" I get "session setup failed: NT_STATUS_NO_LOGON_SERVERS"05:36
BernardoI've already tried using the PDC ip instead of the netbios name, but it didn't help05:37
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thygrrrLeeJunFan, it does that for me (48x, which is its CDR speed), though it's an internal drive.05:38
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thygrrrLeeJunFan, I tried burning at single speed. Frequent (about 10 per second) buffer underruns, it's really slow.05:39
nagyvhello! I would like to use wpa_suplicant to access the wireless in my college. I have set it up somehow, but it doesn't work. I put its output on pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20454 Could someone help me out?05:39
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windhow do i transfer my music (on my laptop) to my ipod05:43
aliasfredwind: the last version of amarok is supposed to do it05:44
windreally05:44
windhow do i know if i have the latest version05:44
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aliasfredhmm good question :)05:45
soulriderlol LeeJunFan05:45
soulriderDVDs at 60x thats uber :P05:45
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aliasfredwind: ok the steps are 1. check what is the last version on the amarok website, 2. check that it does support the ipod feature you want 3. find the special repository to get its package for kubuntu :)05:46
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soulridermy DVD drive only ahs a 2 mb buffer05:46
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windhm05:46
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LeeJunFanBernardo: maybe someone in ubuntu could help, since samba's not really kubuntu or ubuntu specific.05:46
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Bernardook, will try there. #samba seems to be asleep today, as I got no help there05:47
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KaiHanariBernardo, this is still morning in most of the world. IRC users are active mostly at night.05:49
RandomDude15hey I need help getting my hp deskjet 5400 working in kubuntu05:49
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BernardoKaiHanari: it's mid-afternon in europe and africa... :)05:50
LeeJunFanBernardo: yeah, my PDC experience is short.05:50
BernardoLeeJunFan: the strangest is that iw worked well until about a week ago05:50
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KaiHanariBernardo, still not night :P its about the right time to get help over in asia, but they dont use the english networks :P05:50
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ssddssHi, i'm trying to load XGL+Compiz with an ATI Xpress 200M. Everything has been installed fine, but, setting the xgl display at 1, there is no graphic acceleration, and setting in in the display 0, there a a lot of odd effects. What am i doing wrong? Maybe i should use gdm instead of kdm?05:51
aliasfredKaiHanari: you live in the us, correct ?05:52
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CPU_Wizardhello people! how can i install a language?05:56
aliasfredthere is a special package for each language... dont remember the name tho05:56
aliasfred!language05:57
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.05:57
ssddssCPU_Wizard, there are a lot of language packages. sudo apt-get install kde-language-XX, i think05:57
CPU_Wizardok, let me try it05:57
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CPU_Wizardit doesn't work...05:57
ssddssuse adeptm and look for something simmilar05:58
ssddssadept, sorry05:58
CPU_Wizardok! thank you for helping me!05:58
Bernardowell, purging my samba install seems to have worked. No Idea why it failed, but...05:58
ssddss100$ per answer lol05:58
LeeJunFanssddss: even if it's a typo correction :p05:59
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CPU_Wizardthank you ssddss it works!06:00
ssddssyeah, business are business :P06:00
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ssddsswhat is the real name of lang packs, btw?06:01
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CPU_Wizardit said language-pack-xx06:02
CPU_Wizardsomething like that, i saw it in adept06:02
ssddssok, ok06:02
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sorush20how do I make sure specific ports are open or closed?06:03
djk_how can i check which kernel modules are used for my eth0 and eth1?06:03
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aliasfredi dont think you can06:04
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ssddsssorush20, man iptables06:04
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aliasfreddjk_: lsmod will list all the loaded module, and less /var/log/message to get the kernel view of the eth0/eth106:05
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aliasfredsorush20: or try to connect from outside thru to this port and see if it succeed/failed06:05
ninHerhi all06:05
aliasfredi think there are some good front end to iptable but i never saw them :)06:06
aliasfredninHer: hi06:06
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ninHerhi aliasfred06:06
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cb_khi all. I have recently installed kubuntu. I made some upgrades with adept but now everytime I try to intall/upgrade a package it says BREAK (install)... what should Ido?06:07
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aliasfredyou should findout why does it break :)06:08
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cb_khow?06:08
Festyurwhen i open gimp or firefox, the menus look crappy06:08
Festyurany ideas?06:08
bigbill52ai shut down and restarted my computer and my kdm would not start windows manager..it would just keep coming back to login screen...06:08
aliasfreddunno much, i would say try 'dpkg -a --configure' cb_k06:08
bigbill52athere was no reason that this should happen...everything shut down properly, etc06:09
aliasfredFestyur: some compatibity issue with gnome apps under kde06:09
Festyuraliasfred: indeed06:09
aliasfredi heard some stuff about it... i dont remember the solution tho06:09
Festyuraliasfred: there should be a package to fix this06:10
aliasfredvery far in my head ... i think it was a font issue.... but real far06:10
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nielshi everybody, can sb work iwith amarok and codecs?06:11
bigbill52ai had installed the latest kde with automatix...but this time i did not do so06:11
Festyuraliasfred: :p06:11
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Festyurniels: i can help u06:11
nielsyea?06:11
Festyurniels: y wht do u need?06:11
nielsthe problem is, when I want to play a song it seems to work but after 1second(i don't hear any sound) it changes to the next song in my library06:12
niels...06:12
Festyurmp3?06:12
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nielsmp3,wav...06:12
nielsespecially mp306:12
Festyur!mp306:12
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:12
bigbill52aniels sounds like your missing the codecs06:12
Festyuryep06:13
nielsyes i kjnow but i downloaded them a 1000 times but it won't work06:13
nielsgstreamer...06:13
Festyurgo to the 1st link06:13
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Festyurno06:13
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Festyurlibxine06:13
bigbill52aniels have you tried automatix...?06:13
nielsno i used neither libxine or automatix06:14
nielswhich is best?06:14
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bigbill52asearch for ubuntu guide and then follow the instructions for installing automatix06:14
Festyurlol06:14
bigbill52aautomatix takes care of most of my codecs and stuff...06:15
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angasule!dosemu06:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dosemu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:15
angasule!freedos06:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about freedos - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:15
gan|y|medhi06:15
gan|y|medanybody here using initng?06:15
aliasfred!info freedos06:16
ubotuPackage freedos does not exist in dapper06:16
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nielseum to uncomment, does that mean to delete the #sign?06:16
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angasulegah, dosemu in kubuntu is broken :(06:17
Tarandusit is, but I solved it by compiling it from Debian testing sources06:17
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Tarandusit took some 2 hours06:17
angasuledoes that mean a correct package won't be on the servers?06:18
Tarandusyou mean what?06:18
Tarandusthere is a working package in Debian testing repositories06:18
Tarandusbut their binary package requires too many of their other binary packages06:18
Gffmacany mac users in here? Ive got problems with yaboot06:18
Tarandusby building from source, one needs only few other Debian testing packages06:19
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Tarandusbasically, you remove Kubuntu's dosemu from your system06:19
Tarandusand the freedos and xfonts-dosemu06:19
Tarandusthen you add Debian testing's source repository to your sources.list06:20
Tarandusremember to _not_ add their binary repository06:20
Tarandusthen you do "apt-get build-dep dosemu"06:20
Tarandusit complains that there is no package thisandthat06:20
Tarandusthen you do "apt-get build-dep thisandthat"06:20
angasulethanks, but I'll wait for a working ubuntu package and use dosbox in the meantime06:20
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Tarandusok, but it was a nice experience anyway =)06:22
nielsbigbill52a, idid everything aboutinstalling automatix06:22
nielsdo i have to reboot now?06:22
_axiomWhen I run a make install with sudo, how can I still be getting 'Permisson Denied' when trying to create files?  Doesn't this mean I am running it as root?06:22
_axiom"/usr/bin/install: cannot create regular file `/usr/share/apps/kicker/applets/tastymenu.desktop': Permission denied"06:23
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cb_1how can I downgrade a package?06:24
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_axiomcb_1: only gentoo does that by nature06:25
aliasfredcb_1: you can do it with kubuntu as well using for --force option in apt06:26
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gan|y|medanybody here using initng?06:26
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cb_1THX06:28
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bigbill52aniels..did you select automatix from the system menu?06:31
bigbill52ait will bring you up a menu06:31
gebruikerI need a kde osx like title bar06:32
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bigbill52awhat would cause kdm to hang and not start windows06:32
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bigbill52ait just repeats the log in screen06:32
bigbill52ai had to reinstall kubuntu06:33
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_axiomDo make scripts usually work on Kubuntu, or am I encountering weird sudo != root problems?06:35
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zoidberghey guys06:36
zoidbergi need some urgent help06:36
zoidbergcan anyone help me out....PCMCIA services fail to start at boot?06:36
bigbill52ait was a smart move that i had a separate /home when i had to reinstall06:36
_axiomzoidberg: same thing happens on mine, do you have any PCMCIA devices?06:37
zoidbergi dont knot06:37
zoidbergknow06:37
_axiomzoidberg: are you on a laptop?06:37
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zoidbergbut ubuntu doesnt reocgnize the generic intel soundcard on this pII dell06:37
zoidbergadn i'm wondering if that is why06:37
zoidbergno06:37
zoidbergdeskto06:37
zoidbergdell optiplex 350 mhz p2 128 ram06:37
_axiomzoidberg: PCMCIA is only for laptops06:38
zoidbergyou sure?06:38
_axiomzoidberg: don't know what is causing your sound problems but we can rule that out06:38
zoidbergi would appreciate any help06:38
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g-hennahi folks06:38
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g-hennai have a serious problem with my acer travelmate running kubuntu dapper...06:39
_axiomzoidberg:  yes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pcmcia06:39
g-hennayesterday, i upgraded my ram from 512 (ddr2) to 1024 mb, so now (at least in windows) it runs fine in dual-channel mode06:39
g-hennaand...06:39
g-hennakubuntu doesn't boot any more06:39
g-hennai mean... i get "loading essential drivers" and there it stays06:40
zoidberg_axiom, when i go to the volum control...it says cant find sound daemon and please run esd in terminal06:40
zoidbergwhat is esd?06:40
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zoidberg_axiom, are you there?06:41
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gebruikerI need a kde osx like title bar06:42
gebruikerI need a kde osx like dock?06:43
_axiomzoidberg: yeah, hardware problems are evil man.  Does it work on the live cd?06:43
gebruikerwhich one is good?06:43
zoidbergi dunno06:44
zoidbergbut i know it was there with windows06:44
zoidbergplus i can see the damn card06:44
zoidberglol06:44
_axiomkxdocker06:44
gebruikerI installed the latest kubuntu I'm used to breezy, but I noticed this significal speed delay06:45
gebruikerwhat is going on...?06:45
gebruikerI think I have to revert to breezy man06:47
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osirisgebruiker, what kernel are you running ?06:47
gebruiker2.6.15-26-6806:48
gebruiker2.6.15-26-68606:48
g-hennaanyone can tell me that key combination for stopping + continuing output on a text console?06:48
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aliasfredg-henna: ctrl-s to strop it, ctrl-q to continue06:49
sorush20how do I change my host name? ie the name of my computer on my network?06:49
g-hennathx06:50
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nielsbigbill52a, istill have that stupid codec problemwith amarok06:51
niels: 06:51
niels:@06:51
Distro^Junkiewhat codec problem ?06:51
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nielsnon of my mp3's can play in amarok06:51
Lynoureg-henna: many keyboards also have a scroll key that does the same06:51
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bigbill52adid you start automatix?06:52
_axiom!restricted06:52
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:52
g-hennactrl+q/ctrl+s just give me weird "atkbd.c: Spurious ACK on isa0060/serio0 ..."06:52
Distro^Junkiethat's what I was looking for _axiom06:52
Distro^Junkiethanx06:53
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Distro^Junkiegot my uncle downloading kubuntu as well06:53
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bigbill52aonce you install automatix..you can access from the system menu06:53
aliasfredg-henna: wow a printk on ctrl-s ? something is real wrong with your keyboard driver then :)06:53
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Lynoureg-henna: what about the scroll key? Or are you without one?  (in e.g. this lappy it's fn+home but many keyboards have it directly)06:53
aliasfredi mean this combination has been the one for like 20 years :)06:53
nielsbigbill i did that...06:54
aliasfredat least :)06:54
nielsby typing in console automatix06:54
nielsbut it won't play:(06:54
nikosniels hi06:54
bigbill52amy question:  Why does kdm hang and not start up windows..it just keeps returning to the login screen...06:54
nikosniels hi06:54
g-hennaman, I have much larger problems than my keyboard driver; did you read my problem from above?06:54
g-hennayesterday, i upgraded my ram from 512 (ddr2) to 1024 mb, so now (at least in windows) it runs fine in dual-channel mode06:54
g-hennakubuntu doesn't boot any more06:54
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nikosi'm talking to u through linux i managed the internet connection06:55
g-hennai mean... i get "loading essential drivers" and there it stays06:55
nielsnice nikos06:55
nielsfound the problem?06:55
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g-hennaand if i remove "quiet" and "splash" from boot parameters, then i see the last message is "acpi: processor [cpu0]  ..."06:56
fritschg-henna: try boot paramter: acpi=off06:56
g-hennafritsch: my personal hero for today :-)06:58
fritschg-henna: please write a bug report to the kernel maintaners, with your specs, please06:58
CVirusGuys ... The icon name of the root partition in media:/ has changed to 2HS0yu-jour ... What the fusk is that ?!!?!06:58
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g-hennafritsch: now it hangs after the touchscreen is detected06:58
fritschg-henna: okay, try: acpi=off irqpoll routeirq=pci06:59
g-hennabut that is somehow okay, since this notebook has a buggy acpi implementation anyway... a have to boot with noapictimer anyway, or it won't boot at all06:59
fritschg-henna: is this a notebook?06:59
g-hennayuz07:00
fritschg-henna: perhaps: noapic nolapic would help, too07:00
fritschg-henna: but first try these from above07:00
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Kalidarnif i used Kubuntuy would i have to use arts?07:00
janiHello! I try to install Knews -program from K menu's add/remove programs but the selection is gray, what I have missed?07:00
fritschKalidarn: no07:00
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g-hennaACPI-0142: Error: Handler for [SystemMemory]  returned AE_NO_MEMORY07:01
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Kalidarnah okay how do you 'not' use it in kubuntu, i am familiar how in gentoo ;) but i am trying to help a friend.07:01
fritschg-henna: acpi=off ?07:01
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g-hennathis was with noapic nolapic, moment07:01
fritschg-henna: acpi=off noapic routeirq=pci irqpoll07:01
fritschg-henna: :-) what a mess07:01
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Kalidarnfritsch?07:02
CVirusGuys ... The icon name of the root partition in media:/ has changed to 2HS0yu-jour ... What the fusk is that ?!!?!07:02
fritschKalidarn: yes?07:02
Kalidarnso how do you disable arts on a kubuntu system07:02
fritschKalidarn: you just disable it in control center07:02
pm is it possible to play tracks without pauses between them in amarok?07:02
Kalidarnah okay that is systemwide?07:02
johnsandmancan I install kubuntu by using VPC and how must I manage that ?07:03
fritschKalidarn: for your user only ...07:03
Kalidarnah oays.07:03
Kalidarnthx07:03
fritschKalidarn: why not use it?07:03
fritschKalidarn: no problem07:03
Kalidarnmm07:03
fritschKalidarn: arts uses alsa by default07:03
Kalidarnits buggy, and won't even be in KDE 4.007:03
g-hennaok, with acpi=off irqpoll routeirq=pci it also hangs after detecting touchscreen, and one line more (parport_pc: probe of ... failed with -5)07:03
johnsandmanIt is for someone else not me07:03
g-hennanow trying your last suggestion...07:03
Kalidarnhe says he had it  crash, and then got some error or something07:03
fritschg-henna: what laptop is this?07:03
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Kalidarnso i was just teaching him how to get rid of arts, i personally use KDE in gentoo without arts even installed because i hear so many complaints about it.07:04
gan|y|medanybody here using initng?07:04
Kalidarnapparently it isn't maintained anymore.07:04
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janiDoes anyone have suggestions for those disabled programs on add/remove programs, how to install those (for example Knews)?07:04
g-hennaacer travelmate 4602 wlmi07:04
Kalidarnmuch07:04
fritschKalidarn: okay, it "just" uses alsa in kubuntu07:04
Kalidarnah okay07:04
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Kalidarnthen it must be another problem =)07:04
Kalidarnthanks.07:04
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ehastinghey.. is there any way i can change the singleklick behaviour in konqueror?07:05
fritschehasting: in control center07:05
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g-hennafritsch: your last suggestion hangs at parport_pc: probe of ... failed with error -507:05
ehastingfritsch: i have searched it up and down.. but cant find it..07:05
g-hennafritsch: and two lines above: "PnPBIOS: get_dev_node: function not supported on this system"07:06
fritschehasting: click on mouse07:06
fritschehasting: then the first entry07:06
fritschehasting: "One Click for Opening Files and Folders"07:06
ehastingokay.. i feel stupid.. i have checked everything except mouse :P07:06
fritschg-henna: what modell is this?07:06
fritschg-henna: this is a really sucking model07:06
ehastingthanks.. i see it clearly now... *slap his hand onto his head*07:06
g-hennai know i built a "custom dsdl" for this because of the buggy bios. is it possible this is a problem since dual-channel mode is now activated?07:06
g-hennafritsch: acer travelmate 4602 wlmi07:07
fritschg-henna: wait ill ask google07:07
fritschg-henna: did you change anything in bios?07:08
bigbill52amy question: kdm hung and would not start kde..it just kept coming back to the log in window...any ideas?07:08
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g-hennawheee, it still lives; the boot process continues *lol*07:08
fritschg-henna: what parameters?07:09
g-hennafritsch: i didn't; my bios is very minimal; it is possible this guy at the pc store did something, but actually you cannot change much at all...07:09
g-hennait's now at "loading manual drivers"07:09
fritschg-henna: what kernel version? dapper?07:09
fritschg-henna: ah and what boot parameters07:09
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g-hennadapper and i believe 2.6.15-**-68607:10
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fritschg-henna: working now?07:10
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g-hennafritsch: and noapictimer ec_burst=1 plus the last set of parameters you proposed to mee07:10
g-hennaand no, it's still not working07:10
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gan|y|medanybody here using initng?07:11
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gan|y|medanybody here using initng?07:11
gan|y|medsorry for posting twice07:11
g-hennafritsch: you think i should try a bios update?07:12
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fritschg-henna: you have too much parameters now07:16
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fritschg-henna: just try only noapic and nolapic07:16
fritschg-henna: and of course the other default one07:16
fritschg-henna: acpi=off is very senceless for a laptop07:17
g-hennafritsch: which other default one? you mean noapictimer and ec_burst=1?07:17
gan|y|medcaio07:17
gan|y|medciao07:17
fritschg-henna: just use the ones from ubuntu, + noapic nolapic07:17
fritschg-henna: we have to fight to keep acpi enabled07:18
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g-hennafritsch: AE_NO_MEMORY07:18
noritsuhallo07:19
g-hennai should maybe try to temporarily remove my custom dsdt07:19
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fritschg-henna: wargh! yes, of course07:19
fritschg-henna: why do you use it?07:19
fritschg-henna: please take the original07:19
fritschg-henna: or did you just fix compilation errors?07:20
g-hennafritsch: i use it since if not, the battery status cannot be shown07:20
fritschg-henna: ah okay!07:20
fritschg-henna: perhaps do a bios upgrade to latest version07:20
fritschg-henna: perhaps they fixed dsdt07:20
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fritschg-henna: but running a laptop with acpi=off, not good07:20
g-hennaok07:21
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g-hennanow... rather try first upgrading bios or removing custom dsdt?07:22
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fritschg-henna: remove custom dsdt07:22
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fritschg-henna: ubuntu should know smart batteries i think07:22
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swanflwhy do I get this error message periodically in ktorrent "too many open files" ?07:22
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swanflwhy do I get this error message periodically in ktorrent "too many open files" ?07:23
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otaku-sanhey does anyone know of a repo with mozilla thunderbird on it?07:25
bigbill52aWhat is this error..I just got it while installing ubuntu-desktop....** (process:24730): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed07:25
Bazzithunderbird should be in main :)07:25
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raul_hola07:27
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interfearhrm.. could someone tell me some advantages of kubuntu over ubuntu?07:27
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interfeari think im starting to not like gnome07:27
interfearthinking about kubuntu07:27
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otaku-sanBazzi: odd...I thought so.  it's giving me the message on konsole that means it knows of the pack but I don't have the right repo...which is even more odd since I have every repo from here and beyond07:27
g-hennainterfear^: you have kde instead of gnome :-)07:27
usuarioHello to all howto install qt3??07:27
Bazzikubuntu is just ubuntu with KDE, interfear nothing more fancy added to it07:27
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interfearhrm.. ok07:27
interfeari do like konquerer soo much more07:27
KaiHanariinterfear, there are no advantages. its purely prefrence. KDE is just as good as Gnome, stuff is just in different places07:28
g-hennai mean, i have no gnome experience, but i think one thing i love about kde is that everything is so nicely integrated07:28
KaiHanariand it looks different07:28
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interfearyeh07:28
soulriderg-henna: me too07:28
fritschg-henna: working?07:28
interfearok so i wanna get kubuntu 6.06.1 right?07:28
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soulrideryesterday i ordered a kuibuntu CD from shipit :D07:29
g-hennafritsch: still trying to get a live cd to be able to remove that thing from my ext3 root fs...07:29
otaku-saninterfear: well you don't have to completely reinstall ubuntu07:29
interfeari dont have ubuntu installed on this pc07:29
interfearthis is gonna be fresh07:29
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otaku-saninterfear: ahhhh I see I thought you were on ubuntu just wanting to change07:30
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otaku-sansoulrider: that's cool man!  That's how I got my live cd07:30
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g-hennafritsch: you're still here for a while?07:30
interfeari have ubuntu on my other pc07:31
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soulrideri enver ordered from it07:31
interfearso 6.06.1 is the latest right?07:31
fritschg-henna: i`ll try too07:31
soulrideri hope it gets soon :P07:31
ubuntuhello?07:31
soulriderhow long did it take for you?07:31
fritschg-henna: to ;-)07:31
g-hennaok, thx07:31
faridtook 4 weeks to get the Kubuntu07:31
soulriderhi Ubuntu, you should consider changing you nick by typing /nick < new name >07:31
ubuntuhello?I have just installed Kubuntu and would like to know how switch windows using the 3d stlye gui07:32
soulriderreplace < new name > with your new nick07:32
Dasnipa`3d style gui?07:32
g-hennai wonder... can i write to ext3 with ext2ifs?07:32
otaku-sansoulrider: it may take awhile for it to get to you thru shipit.  Mine took about 6 weeks07:32
ubuntuyou know...the XLG07:33
abattoirubuntu: xgl :)07:33
abattoir!xgl > ubuntu07:33
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abattoirubuntu: read the links ubotu gave you07:33
soulriderotaku-san:  where are you from ?07:33
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otaku-sang-henna: this is a guess but because ext3 has hierarchy with ext2 you probably can07:34
ken007thankx07:34
interfear6.06.107:34
abattoirken007: just to confirm, http://en.opensuse.org/Image:Movie-cube.jpg is what you mean, right?07:34
interfear?07:34
otaku-sansoulrider: hehe central of north america07:34
soulrideri hope it doenst take longer for me :P07:34
ken007just looking...one mo07:34
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ken007yup, that's the bunny!07:35
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otaku-sang-henna: meaning ext3 can read from ext2's07:36
ken007is it easy to install?07:36
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abattoirken007: are you completely new to linux?07:36
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ken007yes07:38
ken007first time today07:38
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g-hennabtw, why is it that i always hear kubuntu is so slow compared to other distros?07:38
rx_hmm kynaptic isnt part of default kubuntu607:38
soulrider!seen tk07:38
ubotuI last saw tk (i=tk@211.169.134.235) 2h 46m 19s ago, quiting: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)07:38
abattoirken007: well, then you might find it a bit hard... its really a matter of getting used to 'the linux way' really...07:39
soulriderthanks :)07:39
ken007oh!07:39
soulriderO.O i got a 4 second ping07:39
ken007I will try to read some more07:39
fritschg-henna: not true, defenitely07:39
abattoirken007: i'd suggesting putting it at the end of the list... things like enabling support for restricted formats, making sure all your peripherals work, etc., could come before that :P07:40
g-hennai have no experience with other distros, with the same software as my current kubuntu, that's why i cannot say myself07:40
fritschg-henna: i used debian 5 years long07:40
g-hennabut for example my boot and shutdown time is... well, is actually more than i'd like to accept07:40
ken007Im currently running off the CD to see if I like it07:40
fritschg-henna: one day, a dist-upgrade wanted to take me gimp, i stopped my unstable experience07:41
ken007but thanks for your help anyway....07:41
fritschg-henna: you can disable the fsck default check07:41
abattoirken007: ok, if you like it, installation is the first step :)07:41
ken007...the link you sent is that for the source code?07:41
fritschg-henna: you can use suspend07:41
fritschg-henna: etc.07:41
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ken007:) thanks!07:42
abattoirken007: nope, its a link to a guide... most of the stuff you need is already in the repository, you'd need to install drivers for your graphics card though07:42
abattoirken007: which card?07:42
g-hennai had the hope that my new ram will boost everything up a little... :-)07:42
fritschg-henna: ah! new ram07:43
ken007erm, dunno! I ts an old Dell07:43
fritschg-henna: i think your dsdt does not match your ram size?07:43
fritschg-henna: possible?07:43
ken007onboard g/card07:43
abattoirken007: from what i understand, you'd need a card w/ H/w 3-d acceleration07:43
draikanyone here using VMWare?07:43
fritschdraik: me07:43
g-hennai actually said that i upgraded ram and whether it is possible that my dsdt doesn't like that :-)07:44
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fritschg-henna: okay :-)07:44
ken007ok, I will check later07:44
draikfritsch, can VMWare Player use the original *.tar.bz2 file?07:44
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ken007oh, where is the repository?07:44
fritschdraik: i installed vmware-server + server console from tar.bz07:44
fritschdraik: do`nt know about the player07:44
fritschdraik: but last time i tried to install, the player did not install cleanly, i think07:45
draikI have the SUSE 10.1 tar.bz2 file, but I don't know if that will play on the VMWare Player07:45
fritschg-henna: sorry for "not reading this fact"07:45
fritschdraik: no, you have a suse rpm or a tar.bz2 install file07:45
fritschdraik: ah okay07:45
abattoir!repositories > ken07:45
draikI have the tar.bz207:45
fritschdraik, did you download the kde demo?07:46
abattoir!repositories > ken00707:46
g-hennafritsch: are you going online via your university?07:46
fritschdraik: suse 10.1 kde demo?07:46
fritschg-henna: yes07:46
ken007yesy07:46
ken007thanks07:46
fritschDraik you have to extract this file first07:46
draikI downloaded the image for the VMWare Player07:46
fritschdraik: tar xvjf Filename.tar.bz207:46
abattoirken007: repositories are basically places online which have a collection of various software that you'd need07:46
fritschdraik: yes unpack, after that you can play it in the player07:46
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fritschdraik: it uses very much space07:46
draikfritsch, I was using jzvf... I will try with xvjf now07:47
ken007ok07:47
fritschdraik: z ist for gzip, but it s packed bzip07:47
draikfritsch, thank you. Its working its magic07:48
fritschdraik: not magic, i hope you have got enought free disk space07:48
draikso once I have it unpacked, then I can point the player to the location and it will be all set, correct?07:49
fritschdraik: it needed nearly 1,4 gb07:49
draikI do07:49
fritschdraik: correct07:49
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draik22GB partition, 4.5GB available... good enough?07:49
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fritschdraik: mmmh, ok, i think07:50
draikgeneral question for everyone, will Kubuntu recognize a full 750GB hdd?07:50
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fritschdraik: why not?07:50
fritschdraik: how is it formated? ntfs?07:51
g-hennafritsch: are there any advantaged concerning the speed of the system if i compare a clean dapper install to a breezy install upgraded to dapper?07:51
fritschdraik: reading really sould be no problem07:51
ken007thanks for your help abattoir07:51
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fritschg-henna: yes07:51
ken007much apprieciated07:51
draikfritsch, I was just wondering if I would have to do something for a huge drive.07:51
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fritschg-henna: breezy uses perhaps some old libs, you get perhaps trashed up your system07:51
fritschg-henna: i would suggest reinstalling07:51
abattoirken007: no problem :)07:51
fritschdraik: is it one!! only one hd with 750 gb?07:52
draikI saw a 750GB at a local computer store and just wanted to make sure that I would be all set if and when I purchase the drive07:52
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JakubSomg, this must be my lucky day07:52
Grom123__bonsoirs !07:52
JakubSfor the first time i managed to get suspend to disk and to ram working on my laptop07:52
draikfritsch, yes. one drive07:52
Grom123__you are english ?07:52
Tearanybody know how to change display settings07:52
abattoirGrom123__: yes, this is an intl. channel07:52
draikI think that by December they might release the 1TB (1000GB)07:52
abattoir!fr07:52
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.07:52
JakubSusing git snapshot of libata-dev#upstream07:52
Grom123__oupss ^^07:52
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Grom123__i am  french07:52
abattoirGrom123__: you can find french help there :)07:52
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Grom123__i am a bad level in english ^^07:53
Grom123__very07:53
Grom123__:$07:53
fritschc est ne pas un probleme07:54
Grom123__lool07:54
Grom123__ah la c'est mieu ^^07:54
fritschGrom123__: my french level is at least as bad07:54
Grom123__least ?07:54
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draikfritsch, about how long is the unpacking going to take?07:54
g-hennafritsch: i fear my system is too intelligent for me. i renamed the /etc/mkinitramfs/DSDT.aml to ~0ds9dt.aml~ and the boot process still tells me: "Info: Table [DSDT]  replaced by host OS"07:55
Grom123__ok07:55
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fritschg-henna: mmh, just recreate your initram fs?07:55
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fritschg-henna: dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r`07:55
Grom123__good night07:55
draikfritsch, here is the drive from froogle http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=750GB+Hard+Drive&btnG=Search+Froogle07:55
Grom123__bye07:55
abattoirGrom123__: bye :)07:56
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fritschdraik: very, very expensive?07:57
fritschdraik: you could get 3 250gb for this price?07:57
draiktrue07:57
fritschdraik: 4?07:57
draikI have 2 250GB hdd atm07:57
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fritschdraik: not enough?07:58
fritschdraik: get a 3rd one and you software raid07:58
draikI wish I could run my desktop from a server07:58
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draikI'm a packrat07:58
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draikI do my backups and free up space, but there are times when I just save too many pictures, songs, funny videos, etc on my hdd07:59
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fritschdraik: it do this07:59
fritschdraik: have a cool server, and just sitting on my laptop07:59
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draikI wish that I could have one 1TB HDD just for Kubuntu and then a server to save everything08:00
rx_hey08:00
rx_i cannot find kynaptic in univerise,multiverse...08:01
fritschdraik: mmmh no08:01
draikapps, games, etc on the Kubuntu HDD, but then pix, vids, songs, etc on the server08:01
fritschdraik: 1 TB Kubuntu server, and a very, very silent desktop08:01
g-hennafritsch: ok, the main prob is done, i come past the critical point08:01
fritschg-henna: cool :-)08:01
draikbrb08:01
fritschg-henna: working?08:01
g-hennafritsch: now i sit there with udevd-event[3038] : run_program: '/sbin/modprobe' abnormal exit08:01
fritschg-henna: man, man08:02
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ramonv!mp308:02
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:02
fritschg-henna: you compiled your own kernel? edited some initramfs scripts?08:02
fritschg-henna: apt-get install linux-image-`uname -r` --reinstall08:02
g-hennanope08:02
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fritschg-henna: does it further boot?08:03
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g-hennafritsch: i come till the notebook recognizes the touchscreen, then it hangs there for a while, i get some errors from atkbd.c, then some bluetooth stuff is loaded and there it is now and stays08:04
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fritschg-henna: perhaps, as you come from breezy08:05
fritschg-henna: just make a clean new dapper install08:05
fritschg-henna: debugging is very hard ...08:05
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fritschg-henna: we could do this online together08:06
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fritschg-henna: i have many improvent sources.list additions08:06
g-hennathe installation of dapper?08:06
fritschg-henna: for example suspend2 kernel, kde-354, amarok-1.4.1 etc.08:07
fritschg-henna: cool managable with just apt-sources08:07
g-hennai had all of that running...08:07
fritschg-henna: mmh bad :-(08:07
fritschg-henna: for dapper there is no need to recompile the kernel08:07
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fritschg-henna: it works out of the box, with Bernard Blackhams suspend2 sources08:08
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fritschg-henna: even X600 sould work with oss drivers08:08
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g-hennai had no problem with reinstalling if i hadn't installed so many stuff that was really tricky... oracle libs recently, vpn software... worked for weeks to get pptp working for vpn to my university... the modem drivers are commercial ones, if i have to do all that again... man, it could really kill me... :-(08:09
g-hennait slowly continues the boot process... it just loaded lp, scsi and audio drivers08:10
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fritschg-henna: mmmh that was very long08:11
fritschg-henna: which university?08:11
fritschg-henna: can`t you use vpnc?08:11
g-hennaand... all for a ram update?!?! man, what`s that doing? i should maybe try to recompile the dsdt now for the new bios state.08:11
fritschg-henna: yes! try recompiling now08:11
fritschg-henna: or download a dsdt for you ram size08:12
g-hennafritsch: free university of berlin. they have two different vpns; the univ-wide vpn uses cisco vpn software and our math/cs department uses pptp crap08:12
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fritschg-henna: cisco vpn software, you do not have to use this08:13
sorush2what do I have to have installed to use the "run" command?08:13
fritschg-henna: vpnc does the job08:13
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draikfritsch, I'm back. So what would you recommend? Keep my 250GB hdd for Kubuntu and then run a server with 1TB+ for my backups?08:18
ubuntu#ubuntu-se08:18
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lmosherAnyone here use a dvd authoring (dvd video) program, and if so which one?08:19
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tomaczechi08:19
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redwolfhello08:21
rkdhi08:21
redwolfcan any one help me figure something out08:21
rkdwhat?08:21
redwolfi'm haveing trouble getting micromedia flash player installed08:22
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tomaczeci am using an AVM (Fritz!) Access Point and a AVM usb tongle... i installed capiutils and pppdcapiplugin. i am unsure what to select in /etc/isdn/capi.conf. any pointers?08:22
rkdredwolf: try sumething like automatix or easybuntu08:22
rkd*something08:23
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redwolfok were can find something like that08:23
tomaczecerm, well, i am talking about isdn via bluetooth here.08:23
lmosherredwolf, If you like I can point you to a guide that explains most installs you'll need to do. One sec.08:23
redwolfcool thank you08:24
lmosherautomatix or easybuntu do a lot of these things for you, but I'm not a fan of that method personally08:24
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lmosherredwolf, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper is the link. It also has info on how to install everything w/ automatix08:25
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redwolfi'm sure it would help me out a lot considering i'm new on the kunbuntu08:25
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redwolf*kubuntu08:25
lmosherredwolf, yeah that wiki covers just about all the basics from intalling flash to mp3 to video players.. etc etc etc08:25
redwolfcool thanks08:26
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tomaczecanybody using capi via bluetooth?08:26
lmoshernp, good luck. It's all really quite easy, 90% of the time it just tells you the apt-get package to install, but it has some settings and such. You can use automatix to install all this stuff for you, but the advantage of doing it yourself is you know how to do it in the future :P08:26
lmoshertomaczec, No idea, but what is capi? I'm curious.08:27
archangel__what are the p2p programs that can be installed easily with kubuntu?08:27
tomaczeclmosher, wait a sec... i will look it up08:27
fritschImosher: it is a special protocol to communicate with ISDN, a digital telephone in germay oder europe08:27
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tomaczecfritsch, thx.08:28
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redwolfok thank for your help those that did help me but i need to run and thanks again for the help08:29
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tomaczecfritsch, bzw. i guess this is an 'L' in lmosher not an 'I'. ;)08:29
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tomaczecs/bzw/btw/08:29
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fritschlmosher: yes, sorry08:29
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fritschtomaczec: just wondered why tab completion did not work08:30
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fritschtomaczec: :-)08:30
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tomaczecfritsch, do you use isdn via bluetooth?08:30
lmosherheh, cool. Good luck w/ that fritsch, sorry I'm clueless.08:30
fritschtomaczec: no sorry08:30
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fritschtomaczec: try this: http://www.holtmann.org/linux/bluetooth/isdn.html08:31
charles1952Hello all...anyone willing to help an ABSOLUTE newbie to Linux/Kubuntu? ((Advanced user of MS OSs)08:31
fritschtomaczec: or here: german from avm directly http://www.avm.de/de/Service/Service-Portale/Service-Portal/Linux_Fragen_an_die_Hotline/bluefritz_linux_neu.php?portal=Linux08:31
tomaczecfritsch, i fear i came already about this... but i will retry.08:31
fritschtomaczec: oki08:32
hexxanyone here use the kbfx applet for the main menu?08:32
fritschtomaczec: just plug it in08:32
fritschtomaczec: after that check dmesg, if all went fine08:32
fritschtomaczec: install cip tool08:32
fritschtomaczec: ciptool is avaiable if you have installed bluez-utils08:33
fritschtomaczec: so just do ciptool search and then go on as in the first link08:34
tribehi there, i'm having some pc freezes after updating dapper and i don't know really where to start to look (logfiles etc), is there any tut or howto or something around?08:34
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Agioscould just be X freezing up. Several people have had problems like that.  Check ~/.xsession-errors08:35
tomaczecfritsch, already got it... cant connect to the AP08:35
Agioskernel messages can be found in your logs and with dmsg08:35
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fritschtomaczec: but you see it? the access point?08:36
tomaczecfritsch, yes.08:36
tribethx Agios08:36
fritschtomaczec: perhaps the access point needs to allow your client?08:36
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tomaczecfritsch, and the AP works when connected from a windows box.08:36
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tomaczecfritsch, how could i tell the AP to allow my box as client?08:37
fritschtomaczec: mmmh: ciptool connect YOURHARDWAREADDRESS does not work?08:37
fritschtomaczec: don`t know sorry08:37
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sorush2!xgl08:38
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems08:38
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tomaczecfritsch, myhardware address? wouldnt that be the hw-address of the AP?08:38
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fritschtomaczec: yes of course the one from the AP08:38
sorush2how do I setup the new xgl for ubuntu dapper?08:38
tomaczecfritsch, try this i get something like 'L2CAP cound not connect: permission denied'.08:39
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fritschtomaczec: you did with sudo?08:39
fritschtomaczec: sudo ciptool connect08:39
tomaczecfritsch, nope.08:40
fritschtomaczec: do it with sudo08:40
fritschtomaczec: just try08:40
tomaczecfritsch, ok... will be back in 2mins (have to switch computers)08:40
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harmentalhow can i restart samba?08:42
fritschharmental: /etc/init.d/samba restart08:42
visik7sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart08:42
harmentaltnx!08:42
fritschharmental: with sudo, sorry08:42
visik7but why whould you do it ? samba doesn't need to be restarted for config changes08:42
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fritschvisik7: if you change the port, it has to?08:43
visik7yes08:43
harmentalive just modified smb.conf08:43
visik7for this probably yes08:43
tomaczecfritsch, hooray... got a connection. thx a lot.08:43
fritschtomaczec: no problem08:43
visik7harmental: not comletly sure08:43
visik7harmental: just check it with netstat08:43
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sorush2!xgl08:45
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems08:45
pavel_Hi everyone08:46
tomaczecfritsch, ciptools connect/release works like charm... i was working on this for about 2 weeks. i am really grateful.08:46
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fritschtomaczec: you just did not have the permission to connect :-) your user did not08:47
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fritschtomaczec: sudo does this as root user08:47
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otaku-sanhey I'm trying to get a sound to play right in system notification.  If I play the file by itself it sounds good, but when it plays through sys notification it gets this "too loud for the speakers sound"!08:48
yeti_hi - i installed kubuntu on one of my pcs and now i'd like to install it on a second one. can i just copy the package directory (/var/cache/apt/packages or something like that) to the new pc to prevent kubuntu from reloading all the archives from the repositories?08:49
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pavel_I have some problem: when I try to update KDE from 3.5.2 to 3.5.4 adept is going to delete kdelibs-bin. What can I do?08:49
visik7yeti_: yes you can08:49
visik7yeti_: if apt found packages in /var/cache/apt/archives08:50
eamonHow can I get my "now playing" song in IRC using Amarok and Kopete IRC client?08:50
visik7yeti_: it doesn't redownload them08:50
narvik86 /media08:50
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yeti_great. thanks.08:50
fritscheamon: write a dcop script08:50
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visik7:)08:50
eamonfritsch: You dont have one handy do you?08:50
fritschno, sorry08:50
eamonvisik7: How did you do that?08:51
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narvik86eamon: / media08:51
eamonAnd it's Amarok not amaroK08:51
eamon:P08:51
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eamonnarvik86: Could you elaborate a little please?08:51
visik7eamon: write /media on the channel08:51
narvik86exactly08:52
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eamonvisik7: It didn't work :(08:52
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visik7I use konversation08:52
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eamonWhat client do you use?08:53
rkdit does work08:53
visik7konversation08:53
rkdkonversation08:53
eamonAhhh08:53
eamonI was using Kopete08:53
visik7I don't accomunate irc with IM08:53
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fritschthis is cool :-)08:53
visik7I like 2 separated program for IM and Chat08:54
fritschi just wanted to rewrite this feature08:54
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narvik86visik7: good song :)08:54
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pavel_ I have some problem: when I try to update KDE from 3.5.2 to 3.5.4 adept is going to delete kdelibs-bin. What can I do?08:57
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newbie_1000how am I supposed to set up Adept's repositories?08:58
Tm_Tpavel_: say yes to it08:58
asimonpavel_: kdelibs-bin was merged into kdelibs4c2a08:58
Tm_Tpavel_: that's expected and just fine08:58
Tm_Tas asimon said08:58
newbie_1000I can't download WINE. Something wrong with Adept.08:59
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sorush2!xgl09:00
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems09:00
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rkdnewbie_1000: View->Manage Repositories09:00
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pavel_when I di this I have an error and then I pressed OK and Adept terminated09:01
newbie_1000rkd: yes I know, but what to set? I tried enabling universe/multiverse but must have done it wrong.09:01
asimonpavel_: What error?09:02
newbie_1000rkd: how do I do it?09:02
soulrider!tk09:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:02
soulriderargh09:02
soulrider!seen tk09:02
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ubotuI last saw tk (i=tk@211.169.134.235) 4h 10m 16s ago, quiting: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)09:02
newbie_1000rkd: lots of other packages not available.09:03
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ranunculoidHow do I get konversation to automatically shout out what I'm now playing in Amarok rathar than having to type /media every time the song changes?09:03
pavel_well, I don't remamber. I reinstall linux - after that adept didn't load because some packadge configure when adept fall down09:03
Tm_Tranunculoid: no idea, but I really hope you don't do it here09:04
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newbie_1000rkd: can I reset Adepts repositories listing to the default?09:04
fritschranunculoid: i think we dont`t want to read it *G* every 2 minutes09:04
soulriderlol yea09:04
ranunculoidfritsch: It's not for you guys :P09:04
rkdnewbie_1000: isn't there a Reset button? bottom-left?09:04
ranunculoidI was just testing it there :)09:04
pavel_I'll try it again now. Thank you.09:04
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newbie_1000rkd: that resets to the way it was before I started messing with, before clicking apply. Not the defaults. I tried.09:05
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Tm_Tranunculoid: anyway, you prolly have answers in #konversation09:05
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newbie_1000rkd: so what are the defaults?09:06
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rkdnewbie_1000: open a terminal, grep deb /etc/apt/sources.list and paste it to me in a pm09:07
declanAnyone know the best place for help with apt?09:07
fritschperhaps here :-)09:07
newbie_1000rkd: what's a pm?09:07
declanapt-get doesnt seem to connect at all09:08
rkdprivate message09:08
rkd/msg09:08
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asimonnewbie_1000: You can generate a sources.list file at http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic09:08
declani have used different repos but it doesnt seem to work. Doesnt seem to be the repos; seems to be my connection?09:08
bigbill52ahttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kcontrol-autostart/+bug/4985909:09
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bigbill52amay be the solution to the egg problem09:09
newbie_1000still, what's a pm?09:09
stefanhey, how do I make a boot floppy especially for kubuntu 6.06 dapper09:09
fritschpm is a private message09:09
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fritschlike rkd said09:09
stefancan you give instructions or a website, i can't find one09:09
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newbie_1000how do I do that?09:10
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narvik86click on nick :)09:10
ParkotronHas anyone managed to install KTorrent 2.0 on Dapper?09:10
Tm_Tyes09:11
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stefanfor knoppix I use a smart bootmanager floppy, but with kubuntu he can't find my cdromdrives09:11
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asimonParkotron: On the ktorrent site is a dapper package: http://ktorrent.org/index.php?page=downloads09:11
klarkingood evening09:11
Gingillohi09:12
klarkincannot mount floppy at all on dapper kubuntu09:12
stefani've tried to use iso-install, with earlier versions of kubuntu i did that way, but with kubuntu 6.06 it' doesn't work anymore09:12
klarkinanyone? :)09:12
stefananyone? :)09:12
Tm_Tstefan: sorry, no idea about it09:12
narvik86stefan: wait a second09:12
stefanok09:12
stefanthx09:12
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Gingilloi have a problem. When i try to install (or simply run by the cd) kubuntu, it stops sto "mounting root file system"09:13
Tm_TParkotron: what about it?09:13
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declanwhen i run apt-get update I get error "  301 Moved Permanently"09:13
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newbie_1000asimon: what do you suggest I choose on that website?09:14
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Tm_Tgood night ->09:14
narvik86gn809:14
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ParkotronTm_T: I'm told the package conflicts with some .desktop file.09:15
fritschPakatron, this is okay09:15
asimonnewbie_1000: Your architecture and kubuntu version (propably dapper), and then mark all 6 checkboxes :-)09:15
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fritschnot okay, but dpkg -i --force-overwrite "manages" it09:16
Parkotronfritsch:  Ah, thanks. I figured the conflict wasn't serious, but I wasn't aware of the force-overwrite option.09:16
newbie_1000:asimon I save this file as /etc/apt/sources.list ?09:17
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narvik86stefan: sorry, page that i wanted to acces is no longer available09:17
fritschParkotron: bad package in deed09:17
asimonnewbie_1000: yes09:17
newbie_1000thanks09:17
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asimonnewbie_1000: You probably want those kubuntu.org repos too, for newer KDE version etc.09:18
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newbie_1000asimon: ok09:18
Gingillo_hi09:18
Gingillo_ i have a problem. When i try to install (or simply run by the cd) kubuntu, it stops sto "mounting root file system"09:18
Gingillo_keyword:i have a problem. When i try to install (or simply run by the cd) kubuntu, it stops sto "mounting root file system"09:18
Gingillo_sorry09:18
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declanCan anyone help with error "  301 Moved Permanently" when running apt-get? I'm using source-o-matic repos.09:19
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Gingillokeyword:i have a problem. When i try to install (or simply run by the cd) kubuntu, it stops sto "mounting root file system"09:21
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narvik86declan: sudo apt-get update? nothig else i cant figure out09:21
declannarvik: I'm using that command and it won't work. The connection is there, since I'm using ICQ and browsing with konqueror09:22
declanI've tried a few rep sources and get same error.09:22
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narvik86declan: i don't have other ideas :/09:23
Parkotronfritsch: Thanks, again. KTorrent installed fine. I'm so glad to have DHT available. It speeds things up considerably for me.09:23
declanNarvik: no probs man; thanks for trying. Know where I might get some help?09:24
robert_stefan: software is asexual :P09:24
robert_'it', not 'he' or 'she.'09:24
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fritschrobert_: the kernel is a "he" ;-)09:25
fritschrobert_: just kidding09:25
robert_lmao09:26
robert_:P09:26
soulriderdoes anyone know how i can join two XviD files?09:26
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robert_#$%T^E$%509:26
narvik86declan: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=181012&highlight=301+Moved+Permanently same error09:26
robert_stupid keyboard sensativity09:26
robert_sometimes it's overly sensative, and sometimes it isn't sensative enough09:26
robert_wtf09:26
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declanNarvik: thanks; I should have checked the forums.09:26
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narvik86declan: where r u from? try to change first 2 letters09:28
narvik86declan: od address to another country09:28
declanNarvik: Im from Ireland and Ive tried ie and uk - same result09:28
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rkddeclan: try gb09:29
narvik86declan: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=181000&page=2&highlight=301+Moved+Permanently09:30
ranunculoiddeclan: Where in Ireland? (I'm Irish too)09:30
stefanrobert in my world not :p09:30
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robert_stefan: it's software is gender-less. trry to remember that :P09:31
robert_er09:31
robert_stefan: software is gender-less. trry to remember that :P09:31
stefan:-) who tell you that09:31
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declanIm  from County Down (NIreland) hence the mixed UK and IE09:32
robert_stefan: you must be french, then.09:32
zblachanyone here familiar with kmobiletools?09:32
stefanbelgian09:32
robert_ah09:32
stefandutch09:32
robert_fun09:32
robert_anyway09:33
stefannarvik86: i can't boot cd's with my old pc09:33
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stefannarvik86: normaly i can boot cd's when i first boot with floppy of smart bootmanager09:33
stefanbut not with the kubuntu for some reason09:33
stefanhe doesn't detect the cdromdrives09:33
stefanor she :p09:34
robert_stefan: would you say call a DVD male?09:34
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robert_arg09:34
stefan?09:35
stefandon't frustate in the world of freedom09:35
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stefanrulez, always rulez09:35
robert_back later, running xchat, finally09:35
stefanso no solutions?09:36
stefani've tried to find netboot, but isn't that stupid, if you've tried the cd, and also iso-install09:37
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j__someone want to help me :-) w/ fglrx09:39
stefanwith iso-install i got something like this : Error 13 : Invalid or unsupported excutable Format09:39
stefanat boot09:39
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declancan someone please post a guaranteed working source list (preferably somewere near UK or Ireland) so I can rule that out of my investigations? Thanks.09:41
declaneither PM me or use pastebin09:42
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farousdeclan: did you try source-o-matic09:43
declantried it, yeah09:44
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declanhaving bit of a nightmare09:44
farousdeclan: netselect-apt09:44
ranunculoiddeclan: I pmed you with mine09:44
farousit will test the ubuntu repos and select the fastest for you09:44
ranunculoidI'm from Ireland so they should work for you09:45
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declanfarous: is that a code or website?09:46
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farousdeclan: it is a package you install from the repos09:46
farous!info netselect-apt09:46
ubotunetselect-apt: Choose the fastest Debian mirror with netselect. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.ds1-5 (dapper), package size 7 kB, installed size 60 kB09:46
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farouslol i think it should say ubuntu mirror09:47
Gingilloplease help me, i am desperated. I can't install my copy of kubuntu because when the cd boots and i chose "Starto or install kubuntu" it stops to "mounting root file system," Please help me !09:47
faroushmm i currently have mistrust to the universe repos09:48
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intelikey * INIT: Entering runlevel: 909:48
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declanI have tried new ie sources and Im not getting 301 error anymore, but still no joy; connection just times out09:49
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bigbill52ai fixed the eggs, now i just gotta figure out why kdm wouldnt load windows...09:49
Gingillo_help me... please help me, i am desperated. I can't install my copy of kubuntu because when the cd boots and i chose "Starto or install kubuntu" it stops to "mounting root file system," Please help me !09:49
farousintelikey: any idea if the universe repos have any sort of QC09:50
narvik86Gingillo_: tried alternate cd install?09:50
Gingillo_a09:50
farousGingillo_: depending on you ram you might just need more ram for it do not know the min though09:50
Gingillo_i have 512 of ram09:50
farousdo not think it is a prob then09:51
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narvik86alternate cd?09:51
sharkitohello09:51
Gingillo_narvick86 what is alternate cd install?09:51
intelikeyfarous yeah probably some but no details on it.   there should be info on the ubuntu site09:51
macconlinewhere are the splash???09:51
narvik86cd with text install and more custimizable install options09:51
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Gingillo_should i download it? from where?09:51
bigbill52ayou can see whats wrong at the start by pressing f6 and backspacing over quiet silent09:52
narvik86whre r u from?09:52
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Gingillo_im italian09:52
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seafirewhy my wi-fi work well whitout wep key and don't work when I encrypt my wi-fi router09:53
bigbill52asometimes it is actually doing something..while you think it is stalled...09:53
narvik86http://na.mirror.garr.it/mirrors/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/6.06/ choose for you architecture09:53
intelikey!it09:53
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!09:53
Gingillo_thanks!09:54
narvik86np09:54
farousthanx intelikey was just wondering whay a package that search for the fastest Debian repos is in ubuntu multiverse !09:55
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intelikeyfarous also note   universe != multiverse09:56
farousintelikey: sorry ment universe :)09:56
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intelikeyfarous i hope you find the info on that and report it.  that shouldn't be in "ubuntu" repos unless it's patched for s/debian/ubuntu/g09:58
declanCan anyone help??09:58
declanErr http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security Release.gpg09:58
declan  Could not connect to security.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out09:58
macconlinewhere are the splash???09:58
farousintelikey: will try it first to see how it work perhaps they just forgot to change the info on it09:59
intelikeyfarous i hope.10:00
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intelikeytty24 [root#~]  find /usr -name 'python*' -exec rm -r '{}' \;10:07
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intelikeyhehhe oops.10:07
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Ashexwhat repository contains the 2.6.17 kernel source?10:08
Ashex!repository10:09
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource10:09
Ashex!easysource > Ashex10:09
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crimsunthe same repo that contains the 2.6.8.1, 2.6.10, 2.6.12, and 2.6.15 Ubuntu source10:09
intelikeyAshex edgy maybe10:09
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SanneAshex: you can look for packages on packages.ubuntu.com10:10
ranunculoidXine 1.1.1 cant play FLAC. The kubuntu repos haven't updated xine and kubuntu is hopeless at compiling... What can I do?10:10
Ashexah, thanks Sanne10:10
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Ashexjust to inquire beforehand10:10
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SanneAshex: you're welcome :)10:10
intelikeybut shouldn't edgy help be in #ubuntu+1  ?10:10
Ashexwould i run into any complications updating my kernel from dapper to edgy?10:10
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crimsunranunculoid: xine 1.1.1 _can_ play flacs. Are your flacs using id3 tags or something?10:11
ranunculoidno it can10:11
ranunculoid*cant10:11
ranunculoidIt's a nkown bug10:11
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ranunculoidaargh10:11
farousintelikey: ok confirmed where should i report that10:11
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farousnetselect and netselect-apt both search for the fasted Debian repos. netselect apt will overwrite the sources.list file to point to deb repos10:12
intelikeyfarous idk        crimsun might know10:12
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farousok thanx intelikey10:13
intelikeycrimsun theres a debian package in ubuntu universe    that searches for fastest debian repos....    where should that be addressed ?10:14
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farousam at launchpad.net now perhaps filing it as a bug10:14
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crimsunintelikey: / farous: filed against the source package providing netselect-apt, please10:15
farouscrimsun: at launchpad right10:15
crimsunfarous: yes.10:15
crimsunnetselect-apt |  0.3.ds1-8 | http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Packages10:15
crimsun netselect |  0.3.ds1-8 | http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Sources10:15
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crimsunso it would be filed against the netselect source package10:15
farouscrimsun: i am new to this so will just need time to read how to do it properly10:16
farousat the site now10:16
intelikeyfarous there you have it.   thanks crimsun10:16
farousthanx intelikey and crimsun :)10:16
intelikeyfarous no thank you.10:17
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tomaczechi10:18
intelikeycomma go ^10:19
intelikey:)10:19
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intelikeytomaczec10:19
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tomaczecforgot who helped me with capi/bluetooth... it now works! i am here from my new kubuntu machine via bluetooth/capi. :))10:21
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farousintelikey: ah it was reported by another guy too10:22
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tomaczecbtw, had some trouble in using 'pon' needed to add 'usepeerdns' for dial in... like in 'pon isdn/<provider> usepeerdns'.10:23
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intelikeygood.    it's better to have two or three reports than to have none.10:23
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tomaczecfor the kubuntu crew -> when i throw in a dvd kubuntu tries to start totem, but that is not installed by default. np to me.10:25
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west-enhall10:29
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intelikeyi have a stranger than fiction fact about X       as root i can "startx" and the rez is 800x600    or i can  "X &"   and the rez is 800x600  until i connect to it as user "blackbox -display :0"   then the rez changes to 1024x768    that can't happen can it ?10:29
tomaczecoops, it was not totem but Kaffein10:30
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intelikeytotem should be default. iirc10:30
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tomaczecintelikey: but totem was not on my system.10:31
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tomaczecand Kaffeine complains about 'gstreamer_part' not installed. that was this dvd issue.10:32
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MadRush whats the normal thing i want to add a kernel module to so its loaded automatically at boot time?10:33
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crimsunappend it to /etc/modules10:33
MadRushty10:33
crimsunit->the name10:33
intelikey/etc/modules10:34
intelikeyoh i lag.10:34
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bgrimmUpdate: I believe it was a configuration problem on the router side (MAC address filter set to deny instead of allow). that is why iwconfig reported being associated, wpa_supplicant showed a negotiation and connect, but could not ping anything on the network.10:36
tomaczecwell, now it got totem... but it complains about 'not having the right plugins'. bit hard to decide from this message what plugins would be needed?10:37
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intelikey!media10:38
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs10:38
intelikey!multimedia10:38
ubotuFor multimedia codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies | For multimedia applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications10:38
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intelikey!dvd10:39
ubotuSee http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages10:39
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tomaczecintelikey: well, with all that links... i just want to play one dvd. the approach is to read all that material?10:41
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tomaczecintelikey: if totem would say error#42 and you would say look at link #21 i'd say ok... but this mass of links is a bit of too much.10:43
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oemfuck of10:44
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soulriderhi everyone10:46
MadRushhello10:46
soulriderhi10:46
soulrider!seen tk10:47
ubotuI last saw tk (i=tk@211.169.134.235) 5h 54m 42s ago, quiting: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)10:47
MadRushif i screw up my fstab, and my machine ceases to boot, how do i get to a shell to fix it10:47
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HeXiOnhello10:47
soulrideruhm, maybe use the lvie CD?10:47
soulriderand mount the partition where linux is locate10:47
soulriderd10:47
soulriderand then juste dit10:47
soulriderhi HeXiOn10:47
MadRushyeah i know i can use a live cd10:48
HeXiOnis there any way to make amarok to store the lyrics in the HDD, and read first there before downloading from the net??10:48
MadRushbut i figure thatr takes longer than just dropping to a shell10:48
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MadRushbut im not familiar with how to get to a shell in kubuntu10:48
MadRushi used to have an older mandrake box that would complain when i had a bad entry, and conveniently force me to a shell, and id fix it..10:48
MadRushisnt there some kind of boot option i could give it to not go into a higher run level10:49
soulrideri dont know10:49
fritschMadRush: single10:49
soulriderive been usiong linux for less than 2 weeks :P10:49
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fritschMadRush: just use the recovery entry?10:50
oemsit house10:50
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fritschMadRush: from grub10:50
MadRushok10:50
MadRushhave you used that option before?10:50
fritschMadRush: yes10:50
MadRushoh ok10:51
fritschMadRush: what problem do you want to fix?10:51
MadRushbad line in fstab10:51
MadRushas in, a drive thats not physically there.10:51
fritschMadRush: ah! then this wont probably help10:51
MadRushyeah?10:51
intelikeytomaczec sorry it took so long to answer.  no the approach is not to read tons of material, i don't have a dvd player so i can't help with dvd issues.   maybe someone else can.10:51
fritschMadRush: boot from an CD and chroot into your box10:51
fritschMadRush: after that change the line10:51
MadRushi just wanna get to a shell so i can sudo nano /etc/fstab10:51
MadRushwhat does recovery offer you, anyway?10:52
fritschMadRush: which entry is false?10:52
MadRusheh im screwing with fstab (adding a sshfs entry) and id like to be prepared before i reboot10:52
intelikeyi was searching for something that might indicate that yours was a common (and therefore addressed) issue.10:52
fritschMadRush: it does not boot up futher? just stops?10:52
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fritschMadRush: ah okay! just be sure your / will mount okay10:52
MadRushlast time i had a bad entry in fstab it complained and halted10:52
MadRushyeah it should mount no problemo.10:53
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fritschMadRush: if you / cannot be mounted then, no other way than halt10:53
tomaczecintelikey: np, it's a snowboard video... it can wait till winter. ;)10:53
MadRushhmm10:53
MadRushok10:53
fritschMadRush: just prepare a boot cd for being able to chroot10:53
MadRushyeah10:53
oemsit house10:53
MadRushok then.10:53
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intelikeymadrush boot normal kernel but add   init=/bin/sh   to the kernel line.    [esc]    E    to edit the grub prompt....      you will have to remount root rw and manually remount it ro before you ctrl+alt+del  to get out.10:54
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intelikeytoo late.10:55
tomaczecfritsch: you are that guy i was waiting for... i am here via bluetooth/isdn from my new kubuntu box due to your help. rox!10:55
fritschintelikey: yes, in deed10:55
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fritschtomaczec: cool :-)10:55
fritschtomaczec: i did not really do anything ;-)10:55
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intelikeyyeah   lagging is so much fun.10:56
oemsit house10:56
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mr_daemonHello there, just a quick question -- I just upgraded to kde 3.5.4 using the kubuntu feed11:01
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mr_daemonAnd if I am to run something as root using, say, kdesu, the fonts will look crappy...11:01
mr_daemonWhile in my profile, they're fine11:01
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mr_daemonAny ideas?11:02
oemsit house11:02
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Sannemr_daemon: I think you will have to configure the profile for the sudo user separately.11:04
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tomaczecafter installing kubuntu... what would be the password for 'root'?11:05
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tomaczeccat /etc/passwd shows that this user exists.11:06
alex_yohow to chande the log in screen in kubuntu11:06
Sannetomaczec: there is none, Kubuntu uses sudo with your user password.11:06
alex_yohow to change the log in screen in kubuntu11:06
tomaczecSanne: but as said, there is a user in /etc/passwd... hence, for my guess, there must be a password for root.11:07
Sannetomaczec: no, you use: "udo command" for administrative tasks, and give it your user password.11:08
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Sannetomaczec: just a sec, brb, then I'll find you a link that explains this11:09
tomaczecSanne: and who do i fix 'quirks' in my account?11:09
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tomaczecs/who do/how do/11:10
txx2Hello, does anyone know how I can make my KDE task program buttons the same as this? http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3822/244/1600/amarok_network.png11:10
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soulrideri dont like how that looks :/11:11
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ccc__txx2: hm, which buttons you mean?11:12
txx2ccc__,  the ones at the bottom, they are transparent11:12
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txx2the buttons as in, the minimized programs11:12
ccc__txx2: right click the taskbar, choose configure panel > taskbar > appearance11:13
txx2ccc__,  I'm there, and I've already made my task bar transparent, but my minimized application buttons are still 100% visible11:14
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alex_yocan somebody say how to change the login screen in kubuntu. i used one time ubuntu but i installed a week ago kubuntu. in ubuntu was a gnome display manager11:14
connyosistxx2: advanced and then tint amount I believe11:14
txx2connyosis,  Yes, I done that, and it only affects my task bars backround.11:15
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connyosistxx2: hmm, my minimized apps are faded out, that's what you're looking for right?11:16
txx2connyosis,  yes11:16
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Sannetomaczec: the link I promised: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo11:18
ccc__i'm using taskbar v2 which does that by default. but i reckon it's the elegant/for transparency setting i mentioned... don't remember exactly.11:18
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txx2ccc__,  when I make it transparent in appearance > advanced options > then set a transparent level, it only makes the background of the task bar trasnparent, nothing else.11:20
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Martijn81heyyy, does anyone know a source where the kmyfirewall options are more explained?11:20
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ccc__txx2: i was talking about taskbar > taskbar > appearance > "elegant" (or) "for transparency". i think standard is "classic"11:21
nutshell42Martijn81: I've never used it, but some apps hide a lot of info in the shift+f1 tooltips11:21
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nutshell42I just connected a printer, configured it in the control center, it shows in the web interface, but I can't see it as user11:22
Martijn81thnx11:22
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nutshell42Martijn81: only thank me if it actually helps ;)11:23
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Gh0st75anyone know what a good video editor for linux i should try? i'm looking for something to break up and crimp avi and mpeg files11:23
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txx2How would I install a "S3 graphics UniChrome Pro IGP" ?..11:24
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nutshell42txx: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8639111:26
nutshell42txx2: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8639111:26
nutshell42argh, sry11:26
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txx2That's ok, thanks for the link11:26
txx2nutshell42,  How would I go about instlaling this driver and remove VESA for it?11:27
txx2nutshell42,  opsey, found instructions11:27
txx2nutshell42,  This guide is expecting too much of me. I am a new comer to linux.11:29
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Gh0st75some of the guides are a big over the head of newcomers like us, that's why channels like these help11:30
Gh0st75some people are working on more basic guides too11:30
Gh0st75wish i knew enough to be of more help, i need to start making notes on my learnings11:31
nutshell42txx2: try installing this package: xserver-xorg-driver-via11:31
nutshell42txx2: and then edit /etc/xorg.conf11:31
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nutshell42txx2: search for the device section, and change the entry Driver from vesa to via11:32
TheHighChildAnyone know of a tutorial or app to encrypt web traffic?11:33
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nutshell42Gh0st75: try avidemux; mencoder is the best solution probably but it's command line, although you should have no troubles finding tutorials11:35
Gh0st75thanks, will do some searching on avidemux11:35
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westjdWhy is access Denied when I try to create a new folder in my slave hard drive?11:38
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nutshell42Gh0st75:  try apt-cache search avi editor or something like that for inspiration11:38
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nutshell42I heard kino's a good app too, but I gather you want a stream editor not a NLE11:39
nutshell42westjd: can you do it with sudo?11:39
Gh0st75since i don't what NLE means, i can't say for sure, lol11:39
Gh0st75just wanna crop and trip some files to save space11:40
nutshell42nle=non-linear-editor/ing11:40
nutshell42it's for effects, music videos and stuff, think adobe premiere11:40
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Gh0st75ah, not looking to tinker with effects11:40
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nutshell42for your task mencoder should be the best tool, but ais it's command line11:40
Gh0st75i have little talent or interest in anything artistic :)11:40
westjdnutshell42: I don't know what sudo is.  What is that the acronym fore?11:41
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CylonSixIs there a default root password for Kubuntu? The FAQ says no, but when using Konsole to access the root shell, it asks for a password and doesn't accept my user password.11:42
CylonSixAny ideas?11:42
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TheHighChildCylonSix: what command are you using exactly?11:44
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TheHighChildwestjd: sudo means superuser do. It's to run a command as superuser but without entering a root shell11:45
nutshell42westjd: sudo's a command line program that gives you root access; press alt+f2 and enter: "kdesu konqueror" (without the quotes) then enter your password, that gives you a konqueror window with superuser rights (at least it should =)11:45
TheHighChildwestjd: If you need to enter a root shell type 'sudo -i' then it will ask for your password. When you want to leave the root shell, type 'exit'11:46
TheHighChildAnyone know of a tutorial or app to encrypt web traffic?11:46
wolfmanzTheHighChild: you talking about from one machine to the internet or using one machine to go to another then to the internet?11:48
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TheHighChildwolfmanz: I presume using the local machine to encrypt rather than attempting to force the desitination to encrypt would be a better idea. Just not sure what to look for to be honest11:49
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TheHighChildwolfmanz: I'd like to do it locally so that plain-text traffic is not traveling the network11:49
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TheHighChildI work in a pretty 1337 evironment without any safeguards. I don't want my packets sniffed11:50
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nutshell42TheHighChild:  http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/VPN-HOWTO/11:51
tapasok, i added some programs to the 6.06 live cd.. and booted into it11:51
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tapasrunning any qt app now gives me: konqueror: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3: unexpected PLT reloc type 0x0011:51
nutshell42but both sides need to be part of it11:51
tapas[erm, that was konqueror obviously] 11:51
nutshell42it's not possible to just encrypt your traffic and it then becomes magically unencrypted somewhere11:51
tapasis it not ok, to install stuff from universe?11:51
TheHighChildthanks nutshell4211:52
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nutshell42you need some kind of proxy11:52
nutshell42or other peer11:52
nutshell42that you can connect to over an encrypted connection that then forwards your requests11:52
TheHighChildYeah, i guess I wasn't thinking it through. I just want to avoid plain text traffic on my network. It's not secure in any sense.11:53
TheHighChildbut I also don't want my ISP to log my traffic either11:53
ubuntu__hi i've been using a dual boot winxp/kubuntu system, but yesterday I got "Error loading operating system" instead of the grub boot loader...on examining my hard drive after mounting it on a live cd, I noticed that my /boot/grub/grub.conf is missing- would this be the cause of the problems?11:53
TheHighChildugh. I guess I'll have to wiat for IPV611:53
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nutshell42look for a proxy/anonymizer, but generally it's more trouble than it's worth11:54
TheHighChildubuntu__: Yes, your grub.conf is where grub gets it's HD locations, You can reinstall it with the livecd though11:54
wolfmanzTheHighChild: if you worried about e-mail and the like encrypt it of course who ever is going to get that mail will have to decrypt it11:55
TheHighChildnutshell42: yeah, I've worked with privoxy a bit but it's dogslow.11:55
westjdis there any reason why my resolution isnt any better than 1024 x 768?11:55
westjdand it wont let me make it any better11:55
ubuntu__TheHighChild: I have Kubuntu 32 bit installed, but am using the Kubuntu AMD64 cd (cuz I cant find the other one)...does it matter if I use this CD to reinstall Grub?11:55
nagyvany ideas how to set up openoffice to open the links in firefox instead of konqueror? as I know Firefox is already set up as the default browser.11:55
TheHighChildwolfmanz: More so concerned about web searches and whatnot. i use keys with my email and such as is. I just want to surf safely and anonymously. Not tha tI'm doing anything bad. I just don't like how the internet is turning out in the US11:55
TheHighChildubuntu__: yes it does11:56
TheHighChildubuntu__: Well, actually, it may not. Better not take my word on this11:56
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ubuntu__TheHighChild: crap11:56
TheHighChildubuntu__: if you have a 64 bit CPU, which I presume you do. I don't think you'll have a problem11:57
ubuntu__TheHighChild- how would I reinstall grub then- hehe...sorry im still a newbie...11:57
TheHighChildubuntu__: To reinstall grub 'sudo grub-install /install/location'11:57
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TheHighChildubuntu__: Aren't we all ;)11:58
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ubuntu__TheHighChild- so I guess I have to mount my drives first right?11:58
ubuntu__hehe11:58
TheHighChildubuntu__: You'll need to mount the partition where you want to install grub11:58
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ubuntu__kk11:58
westjdI know my computer can do 1600 x 1200 why is kubuntu not letting me past 1024 x 768?11:59
ubuntu__TheHighChild- so in my case it would really be just hte harddrive that has kubuntu on it right- not the windows xp one11:59
TheHighChildwestjd: It may not recognize the exact model of your monitor, also, make sure you can achieve that resolution with the refresh that is being tried11:59
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soulriderhey everyone! im compiling kopete and its taking quite a while, is that normal ?12:01
tapasugh12:01
tapasseems to be a glibc bug12:01
tapasgrmbl12:01
tapashot damn12:01
Tm_Tsoulrider: how long12:01
tapaswhy does this happen to me the night i need to ship a program to a client12:01
soulriderits been going for at least 5 minutes :P12:01
ubuntu__TheHighChild: is it possible to mount a partition just in terminal w/o changing files- since Im on a live CD right now?12:01
TheHighChildubuntu__: 'grub-install /dev/hda' should work for you, BUT that's not for certain. are you using an IDE disk? just 1 of them?12:01
soulridertheres allways new text in the console12:02
rictoo_I whanna run an sh file (it IS there) but it says sh: setup.sh: No such file or directory12:02
Tm_Tsoulrider: err, that compiling will take 30 min easily12:02
ubuntu___hi all, i just installed windows on another partition and it of course wiped out grub. I've tried grub-install /dev/hda from the kubuntu cd and it says "could not find device for /boot: not found or not a block device."12:02
soulriderO.O12:02
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ubuntu__TheHighChild- kubuntu is installed on /dev/sda112:02
soulriderreally?!12:02
Tm_Tsoulrider: yes, that's not even much12:02
soulriderthis version of kopete better not crash like the last one12:02
ubuntu___can anyone help?12:02
TheHighChildubuntu__ and where is windows installed?12:02
Tm_Tsoulrider: =)12:02
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ubuntu__TheHighChild- /dev/hda112:02
sorush2xgl is the best..12:02
Tm_Tsoulrider: what you're compiling? 0.12.2 ?12:03
soulrideryea12:03
ubuntu___at /hda212:03
rictoo_I whanna run an sh file (it IS there) but it says sh: setup.sh: No such file or directory =/12:03
soulrider0.12.1 would crahs as soon as it was opened12:03
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Tm_Tsoulrider: interesting12:03
ubuntu__TheHighChild- except that the live cd hasnt recognized either drive at this point...12:03
glickexcuse me how do i install guarddog firewall?12:03
glickits not in adept12:03
tapasok, so it seems this might be a bit error in my image somewhere12:03
tapasphew12:03
soulridermore annoying than interesting :P12:04
tapasok, starting all over again ;)12:04
TheHighChildubuntu__ are they mounted?12:04
Tm_Tsoulrider: I hope you configured with --enable-debug switch12:04
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soulridereeerrrr12:04
soulridernope12:04
soulriderwhats that12:04
Tm_T:(12:04
ubuntu__TheHighChild- not yet- dont know how to at this point...12:04
westjdTheHighChild: I am only at 60 Hz, I had unbuntu on this and it was allowing 1600 by 1200, what can I do gain such resolutions?12:04
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Tm_Twell, if you have more problems, with that we may be able to track the bug down12:05
Tm_Twithout it it's pretty impossible12:05
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TheHighChildwestjd: The way i do it is to edit the xorg.conf file. This isn't a good idea if you're not familiar with what you're doing. I would suggest checking out the forums and the wiki for a starter guide12:05
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glickwhat repo is guarddog in?12:06
martamiuscan anyone help me with restoring grub after a windows install?12:06
TheHighChildubuntu__: Hopefully this may help you a bit http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4203012:06
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nutshell42westjd: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml12:07
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TheGateKeeperglick: you need to enable the universe repo: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories12:07
TheGateKeeper!repos > glick12:07
jinhoTheHighChild- thanks (changed my name from ubuntu_ to jinho)12:07
TheHighChildjinho: Thanks, the underscores were annoying. lol12:08
martamiuscan anyone help me with restoring grub after a windows install? grub-install isn't working12:08
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jinhoTheHighChild: lol12:08

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