[12:08] <soulrider> its .kcsrc
[12:09] <viper550> KDE Color Scheme file
[12:09] <viper550> Import it using the Import Color Scheme button in Colors (in System Settings)
[12:10] <Dr_Willis> i think ya can fire up that theme manager and drag/drop it on therre also. (wellya can with some files)
[12:10] <Dr_Willis> thats a 'gnome thing' ? :P
[12:10] <Agios> so, what does a "gnome thing" have to do with a KDE color scheme?
[12:11] <viper550> I ported it to KDE!
[12:11] <soulrider> it llooks nice
[12:11] <soulrider> but where can i get the window deco ?
[12:11] <Agios> ahh, The Viper550 Gnome Thing KDE Color Scheme.
[12:11] <viper550> Umm, that's for Metacity only...but Plastik looks good with it
[12:11] <Dr_Willis> Plastik is a nice theme. :P
[12:12] <Dr_Willis> actually useable! :)
[12:12] <viper550> Or, try it with the SUSE2 window border on KDE look, looks pretty nice!
[12:17] <angasule> ??bug
[12:17] <angasule> !bug
[12:17] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[12:19] <zipper> !c++
[12:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about c++ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:19] <zipper> Can anyone recommend a good Visual Studio replacement for c++ development?
[12:20] <word> zipper: don't know about C++ but a good one is gambas
[12:21] <Dr_Willis> kde has a native ide dont it.
[12:21] <angasule> kdevelop
[12:21] <word> kdevelop?
[12:21] <word> yah
[12:21] <zipper> word, i just found kdevelop, installing it atm
[12:22] <word> i haven't really extensively used either of them but i heard gambas was better :-/
[12:22] <qubit> eclipse is another
[12:22] <zipper> will probably check out gambas as well, thank you
[12:23] <angasule> gambas is for a BASIC-like language
[12:24] <TheGateKeeper> zipper: http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/screen-shots
[12:25] <zipper> thanks
[12:26] <word> !tvout
[12:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tvout - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:30] <looktj> hi
[12:30] <looktj> !fans
[12:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fans - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:30] <farous> looktj: run ksensors
[12:31] <farous> will give you most information about your hardware
[12:37] <castanhede> Holla
[12:43] <Bearcat> !seen foot
[12:43] <ubotu> I last saw foot (n=lovely@64-17-77-17.co.warpdriveonline.com) 8h 5m 7s ago, quiting: Remote closed the connection
[12:44] <soulrider> !seen myself in the mirror
[12:44] <draik> soulrider LOL
[12:45] <soulrider> didnt answer though :(
[12:45] <soulrider> brb
[12:45] <draik> !seen myself
[12:45] <ubotu> I last saw myself (i=unkmar@durhamlug/dimsum) 2d 18h 10m 57s ago, changing nicks
[12:45] <draik> !seen myself in the mirror
[12:45] <angasule> is there a way to run OSX apps on linux?
[12:47] <Bearcat> angasule: not that i know of, no
[01:06] <otaku-san> hey how whould I give root access to ark?  I'm trying to unpack an kdm theme into /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes but it won't let me
[01:08] <Blissex> otaku-san: try 'kdesu ark'
[01:09] <Blissex> otaku-san: unpacking there is not a very good idea.
[01:11] <otaku-san> Blissex: ok I thought it was kdesu...why not there
[01:12] <Blissex> otaku-san: because it is an areas handled by the package manager, and it can create problems to confuse the package manager with files not belonging to it. User manually installed files should essentially always go under '/usr/local' only.
[01:13] <otaku-san> Blissex: what does this mean tho'? $KDEDIR/share/apps/kdm/themes
[01:13] <hacosta> chacarron macarron
[01:13] <Blissex> otaku-san: well, you can have per-user themes, and you can have paths, and in the most desperate case put the files under '/usr/local/' and just a symbolic link over there.
[01:14] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: Put it in ~/.kde/share/apps/kdm/themes
[01:14] <otaku-san> where is that...so n00b when it comes to linux files
[01:14] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: ~/ = /home/your-user
[01:15] <Hawkwind> Then .kde is a hidden directory since it starts with a .
[01:15] <nef> hi there, i just installed kubuntu 6.06 and i cant get amarok (also tried xmms) to play mp3's. i already installed libxine-extracodecs and libmad0 (and the others mentioned on ubuntu wiki "restricted formats"). does anyone know what the problem can be
[01:15] <nef> _
[01:15] <otaku-san> Hawkwind:AHHHHH thank you...wow that was simple....I can't wait to I get these basics down...
[01:15] <otaku-san> Blissex: thank you too man
[01:19] <the_p00per> i cant play mp3s in kubuntu, i already followed the wiki any ideas
[01:22] <j__> i just had same problem i used automatix. it installed my fav apps and needed codecs
[01:22] <j__> what is best way to remove previous kernel version after an update
[01:22] <j__> ?
[01:23] <Hawkwind> j__: Best to always keep atleast 2 kernels installed.  That way if the current one messes up, you can reboot to one of the others
[01:23] <j__> where r they located so i can see how much space theyre taking up
[01:28] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: how would I find ~/.kde/share/apps/kdm/themes in Kongueror?  Do I just type it in that text box at the top?
[01:29] <j__> man i like kubuntu
[01:29] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: I think I got it though
[01:30] <otaku-san> j__: Very true.  Same here
[01:30] <word> how do you manually add bad blocks to the badblocks list?
[01:31] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: Just type: /home/your-user/.kde/share/apps/kdm/themes
[01:33] <lens> I'm having a really hard time compiling this program, if someone would try to make sense of this error, I would be appreciative.  --->  http://pastebin.ca/128406
[01:34] <jmichaelx> has anyone noticed the bug in 3.5.4 in 'configure desktop'? when you try to access wallpapers , the latest and ones labled 'most downloads' are no longer accessible
[01:35] <archangel_> whats up
[01:36] <archangel_> can I restore the kernal and still keep my info on my pc?
[01:38] <the-erm> lens: Sorry ... can't figure it out.
[01:38] <lmosher> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"... Any ideas?
[01:39] <lens> the-erm, thanks for lookin :)
[01:39] <the-erm> lmosher: are you trying to su ?
[01:39] <the-erm> what I'm saying is are you trying to run it under a different user with su -c 'whatever' ?
[01:40] <lmosher> the-erm, su? no. I'm trying to run a 3D app (in that case it was Neverball) but xscreensaver reports the same thing
[01:40] <the-erm> Yet you're still running it in x ...
[01:40] <lmosher> for the life of me I can't see any performance problem w/ the apps
[01:40] <lmosher> the-erm, well neverball doesn't run too well in TTY
[01:41] <the-erm> so you're pressing alt+F1 and then running the program?
[01:42] <lmosher> the-erm, Sorry, I was being sarcastic. yes I am in X
[01:42] <Tommy> !xgl
[01:42] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:42] <j__> no frozen bubble :-(
[01:43] <lmosher> the-erm, Any ideas what is causing that error?
[01:44] <lmosher> anyone? :P
[01:45] <Pellaeon> hi
[01:46] <the-erm> lmosher: my guess is the obvious. It can't connect to X.
[01:49] <lmosher> the-erm, Hrm, but the app runs fine dispite the error..
[01:49] <lmosher> 150something FPS in tuxracer.. etc.
[01:49] <Pellaeon> can I ask a question?
[01:49] <j__> anyone want to help me w/ installing ati driver :-p
[01:49] <lmosher> Pellaeon, You just did
[01:49] <Pellaeon> true
[01:49] <lmosher> j__, what card?
[01:50] <Pellaeon> i messed something with kde configuration
[01:50] <Pellaeon> kwallet manager just dissapeared
[01:50] <j__> 9800pro
[01:51] <Pellaeon> it works, but no icon at all, no matter what I set in system settings
[01:51] <lmosher> j__, I have the same card. What distro?
[01:51] <j__> i used adept and installed the fglrx and the control panel but i see'MESA'
[01:51] <j__> latest kernel for k7, kubuntu 6.06
[01:52] <Pellaeon> kde 3.5.4, kubuntu 6.06
[01:52] <actinic> j__, have you tried easyubuntu?
[01:52] <jmichaelx> has anyone noticed the bug in 3.5.4 in 'configure desktop'? when you try to access wallpapers , the latest and ones labled 'most downloads' are no longer accessible
[01:52] <lmosher> j__, fglrxinfo reports Mesa?
[01:52] <j__> yes
[01:52] <lmosher> j__, Ok I had that.. I would basically search google for "Ubuntu ati fglrx xorg.conf'" and varios combinations.. I found 2 or 3 guids that helped me
[01:52] <Pellaeon> jmichaelx: just noticed
[01:53] <j__> alright hand editing
[01:53] <actinic> ATI Howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?highlight=%28CategoryDocumentation%29
[01:53] <jmichaelx> Pellaeon: not a big issue, but a bug is a bug. i dunno if it is a kubuntu or a kde issue
[01:53] <lmosher> yeah I think that was the guide I used :)
[01:54] <Pellaeon> jmichaelx: true, but i don't like if something eludes my understanding :>
[01:54] <jmichaelx> lo
[01:54] <jmichaelx> lol
[01:55] <j__> should i remove what i installed in adept
[01:55] <Pellaeon> sorry for my english :/
[01:56] <actinic> jmichaelx, you're right, seems there's a bug in the 'configure desktop' function
[01:56] <j__> looks like its same packages
[01:56] <jmichaelx> Pellaeon: you're english is fine
[01:59] <Pellaeon> kwallet manager appears if i type "kdesu kwalletmanager"
[01:59] <j__> thx for the link
[02:00] <Pellaeon> but then it starts automagickally after restart, requesting su password
[02:00] <Pellaeon> which is a little strange
[02:05] <timthelion> is there a guid to getting vim to highlight perl?
[02:07] <higen_> darn.. i am realy into the.. kde or gnome question again.. ..  is there any gstreamer players made with QT?
[02:12] <damien_> Hey guys, quick question, I installed mysql-server on my desktop to play around with, but how do I get it so that it doesn't start on bootup? I just want to start it manually when I want to play with it.
[02:14] <elvstone> anyone know if there's any package for graphicsmagick somewhere?
[02:16] <batman007> I cant compile anything.. I always get this error: "Can't find kernel build files in /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/build;"
[02:16] <batman007> Anyone know how to fix that?
[02:19] <damienskies> Hello I'm having trouble installing firefox or getting anything though apt-get.
[02:23] <damienskies> Can someone help me?
[02:24] <actinic> damien_, system settings > system services (under the system administration section) to stop or start services
[02:26] <actinic> damienskies, have you tried synaptic or adept?  Same problem?
[02:27] <damienskies> All programs on adept are installed and Firefox is grayed out for soem reason.
[02:27] <damienskies> *some
[02:29] <damienskies> Synaptic also seems to not be on my computer.
[02:31] <actinic> you've done:  'apt-get update' first?
[02:31] <damienskies> Yes.
[02:32] <actinic> EasyUbuntu installs Firefox automatically ... easyubuntu.freecontrib.org
[02:32] <actinic> however it seems to be down for the moment
[02:33] <damienskies> I actually did something else to install it but it wont run and gives me this error message.
[02:34] <damienskies> '/opt/firefox/firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory'
[02:34] <damien_> Thank actinic
[02:38] <dbglt> is there a way to re-associate all file/MIME types with my KDE applications?
[02:39] <dbglt> I installed ubuntu, and some apps still have old file associations (even though they are correct in kcontrol); e.g. opera still attempts to use gnome software
[02:52] <actinic> batman007, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217657&highlight=compile+kernel
[02:53] <Admiral_Chicago> !restricted format
[02:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restricted format - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:53] <Admiral_Chicago> !mp
[02:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:53] <Admiral_Chicago> !mp
[02:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:53] <Admiral_Chicago> dammit
[02:53] <Admiral_Chicago> !mp3
[02:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:53] <Admiral_Chicago> sorry for the flooding channel
[02:54] <Healot> !help
[02:54] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[02:54] <antonius96> ubuntu
[03:01] <tear> hello
[03:01] <eamon> How come only one application can use alsa at a time? Eg if I want to play a video in youtube in firefox I have to exit amarok then restart firefox to be able to have sound. Then when I go to play a video in kaffeine I have to close firefox before I can get sound.
[03:01] <tear> anybody know how to install fluxbox
[03:02] <Admiral_Chicago> can someone tell me why I got this "E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate" while installing w32codecs
[03:03] <Healot> !SEVEAS
[03:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about SEVEAS - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:03] <OpeNZ> Admiral:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[03:03] <Healot> !seveas
[03:03] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:04] <Healot> case sensitive :)
[03:05] <eamon> How come only one application can use alsa at a time? Eg if I want to play a video in youtube in firefox I have to exit amarok then restart firefox to be able to have sound. Then when I go to play a video in kaffeine I have to close firefox before I can get sound. Any ideas guys?
[03:05] <mindbob> a/join #perl
[03:06] <GNULinuxGeek> Hello All.  Has anyone experienced this?  Konqueror will start and come up in Icon view with huge icons.  As long as I use that icon set, I can navigate.  If I try to change icon size, it won't, if I try to switch to detailed view Konqueror locks up totally.  Running Dapper.
[03:06] <Admiral_Chicago> Healot, i'll check it out
[03:06] <tivo> hello
[03:07] <Healot> ALSA deamon can be shared realtime I think, my VIA '97 can do that automagically, with the default setup
[03:07] <tivo> can anyone help me with an SVIDEO problem?  Set up 2nd display in xorg.conf but nothing shows up on my TV
[03:07] <Admiral_Chicago> Healot, ah yes AMD64. dang, I don't understand the instructions, but i'll figure it out
[03:07] <Healot> Admiral_Chicago, if you have more time, you can take the source and try to compile, or use Windows :0
[03:07] <elvstone> what the hell!
[03:08] <tivo> in the system settings it shows the 2nd display as active
[03:08] <Admiral_Chicago> Healot, compile from source I can do
[03:08] <elvstone> i asked to remove the littlecms package with adept, and it started removing a _boat load_ of packages that dependen upon it, without asking me!
[03:08] <Healot> but, iirc, w32codecs has a 64bit version, but I never rely on that information
[03:08] <elvstone> that's insane.
[03:10] <Admiral_Chicago> Healot, no, but you can trick your computer to using and installing the i386 version
[03:11] <damien_> Hey anybody know how to disable the google suggest in konqueror and revert it to a regular search box? They way it works is kind of annoying, like the cursor always jumps to the end for example
[03:11] <jmichaelx> what is a 'backported' package?
[03:11] <carlos> <- good question :p
[03:12] <damien_> jmichaelx: I believe it's a package that's in a newer version of ubuntu but that was backported to work with an older version.
[03:13] <jmichaelx> ahhh, ty damien_
[03:13] <ru> Anyone know how to specify which Xinerama screen applications launch/start in
[03:14] <carlos> normally backported packages are because they are more "trust-able" :-p
[03:14] <carlos> for production servers and things like that
[03:15] <otaku-san> on konsole what would I put with "kdesu" to give konqueror root access to move files?
[03:16] <damien_> Can't you just do "kdesu konqueror"?
[03:19] <carlos> in konsole i would rather to use "sudo"
[03:19] <carlos> but the user must be on /etc/sudoers
[03:20] <otaku-san> damien_:probably...let me try
[03:26] <jmichaelx> i just added a seveas repo (extras), would there be a way to only view the packages in that repo?
[03:27] <elvstone> what the hell now.. i've just ended up with KDE 3.5.2 on my 6.06.1 kubuntu.. only this minute i was running 3.5.4.. what could have happened?
[03:27] <elvstone> i was just installing some things with adept..
[03:27] <otaku-san> jmichaelx: well...probably your best bet would to look in adept...it will show all of the packs tho' not separate packs
[03:28] <jmichaelx> otaku-san: ok, i was just hoping to see only the new packages that would be available
[03:28] <otaku-san> jmichaelx: why do you need to look at the new ones?
[03:29] <elvstone> http://bob.dose.se/sources.list <-- that's my sources.list.. anyone know how i could have ended up with a downgrade to KDE 3.5.2?
[03:29] <elvstone> i was just installing ruby18-dev and some other packages..
[03:29] <jmichaelx> otaku-san: i just added that repo and i want to know what packages are in it
[03:29] <otaku-san> jmichaelx: oh and what are the new packs?  can you pastebin em?
[03:30] <jmichaelx> otaku-san: i don't know what they are, lol. that is what i want to find out:-)
[03:30] <otaku-san> jmichaelx: I mean can you pastebin your source.list
[03:31] <jmichaelx> otaku-san: it apparently contains a newer version of adobe acrobat reader than the ubuntu repos
[03:31] <otaku-san> elvstone: I'm looking at your source.list....don't know if I can help you tho'
[03:32] <jmichaelx> otaku-san: the repository i added is the seveas extras, otherwise my repository list is pretty typical
[03:32] <otaku-san> jmichaelx: do you want to make sure that this new repo has acrobat?
[03:33] <jmichaelx> otaku-san: i know that it does, it is a newer one than in the ubuntu repos, i was just curious as o what other packages seveas contained
[03:33] <jmichaelx> to*
[03:33] <otaku-san> jmichaelx: ok.....hold on I know I've seen something like this before
[03:33] <jmichaelx> ok
[03:37] <otaku-san> elvstone: if your on still... I saw you have the amd 64 release version of Dapper.  This version has been known to be...well not exactly stable...and I've heard mention on the Ubuntu Forums of the KDE downgrading it's self
[03:37] <elvstone> it's so weird.. running dpkg -l | grep kdebase shows 3.5.2-0ubuntu27 version of kdebase-bin, kdebase-data and kdebase-kio-plugins.
[03:38] <elvstone> otaku-san: "downgrading itself".. how the h**l would that happen?
[03:40] <draik> Sysinfo for 'Lair': Linux 2.6.15-26-686 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)4CPU3.20GHz at 3216 MHz (6432 bogomips), , RAM: 1066/3031MB, 99 proc's, 7.25h up
[03:40] <elvstone> otaku-san: have a link to the forums? or know what i could search for?
[03:41] <otaku-san> elvstone: you have to remember 64 bit technology is still up and coming....I mean look at windoze...they don't hardly support it.  This best way right now is to install the x86 version of kubuntu...Also yes search on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ for your problem
[03:41] <otaku-san> elvstone: it's alot more eisier than tottaly reinstalling kubuntu
[03:41] <elvstone> i hardly think the problem of KDE suddenly downgrading itself is 64-bit related.
[03:42] <elvstone> i'm running FreeBSD fine on this machine, just wanted to try kubuntu out too.
[03:42] <elvstone> what is easier than reinstalling kubuntu? and why would i reinstall kubuntu?
[03:44] <otaku-san> elvstone: searching on the forums...I meant the reinstalling as a last resort...and you would change the architech you download from what you got (amd 64 release) to the x86
[03:44] <otaku-san> thats why you would reinstall
[03:45] <otaku-san> maybe...try the forums for your answer
[03:45] <elvstone> i specifically chose the amd64 to see how good it would work, i'm not using this kubuntu install for regular work..
[03:45] <otaku-san> elvstone: ok...so no hard feelings if you reinstalled it?
[03:45] <otaku-san> elvstone: hold on
[03:46] <elvstone> okay. well i'm a bit confused now, since i'm reading that 3.5.4 is in a special repo (deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354 dapper main).. i can't remember ever having that repo in my sources.list, and still i was running 3.5.4 not longer than an hour ago..
[03:46] <Kr4t05> I'm having problems with KAudioCreator.
[03:47] <elvstone> otaku-san: no. no hard feelings ;) except a slightly bad mood.. but i really don't think a reinstall should be necessary, it's just some package system problem or something.
[03:49] <elvstone> okay. installing 3.5.4 from the special repo..
[03:51] <otaku-san> jmichaelx: sorry to leave you hanging there.  Could you paste you source.list here. http://pastebin.ca/
[03:59] <otaku-san> elvstone: tell me what happens and I'll search for your problem and see if theres a different fix
[04:00] <otaku-san> jmichaelx: are you still on?
[04:00] <Gh0st75> do i need any special packages installed to be able to remote to my kubuntu desktop from a windows machine?
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> VNC can let you do that
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> depends on HOW you want to do it.
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> I would advise installing the ssh server, and a vnc server.
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> !info vnc4server
[04:00] <viper550> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=44134
[04:00] <ubotu> vnc4server: Virtual network computing server software. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.1.1+xorg1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 986 kB, installed size 2332 kB
[04:00] <Gh0st75> ok, will look into that, thanks
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> is this over the internet? or local lan?
[04:01] <archangel_> can I restore JUST the kernal as apposed to restalling?
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> archangel_,  ya could reinstall the kernel package i guess.
[04:01] <Gh0st75> over the internet currently, from a work pc to home, but i will be wanting to do the same over a local lan once i get a windows laptop
[04:02] <archangel_> Dr_Willis: how do I do that?
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> Gh0st75,  hmm..  it pays to learn ssh tunnles also in that case.
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> for security
[04:02] <Hawkwind> archangel_: sudo apt-get install linux-image
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> archangel_,  apt-get install somtkernelpackage. :P i never rember the names
[04:02] <elvstone> otaku-san: okay, after adding the special repo with 3.5.4, upgrading (it failed once and i had to do dpkg --configure -a), and then removing my ~/.kde because KDE was acting up (no panel), i got it to a usable state..
[04:02] <elvstone> so i'm fine now.
[04:02] <archangel_> Dr_Willis: this is for a laptop that has all the important info for kids camp
[04:02] <Gh0st75> i'm not against learning something new, tho i'm only a couple weeks old with using linux
[04:03] <Gh0st75> googling ssh tunnels will give me somethin to do at work tomorrow
[04:03] <archangel_> Dr_Willis: the pc wont even boot without the live cd
[04:03] <archangel_> actually its a laptop
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> so you some how deleted the kernel?
[04:04] <otaku-san> elvstone: dang...well...what are you doing without the panel...I mean is the whole thing gone? Menu and all?
[04:04] <archangel_> no
[04:04] <Hawkwind> archangel_: What are you trying/wanting to do exactly ?
[04:05] <Hawkwind> archangel_: Also, what did you do that you want to 'restore/reinstall' the kernel ?
[04:05] <elvstone> otaku-san: everything was gone except for a couple of application icons (the K-menu was gone, and the systray et.c.).
[04:05] <archangel_> I am getting a "kernal panic" error
[04:05] <Hawkwind> archangel_: I ask this because you've been asking about this for 3 days and have yet to say what you've done or want to do exactly
[04:05] <elvstone> i could right click on the desktop and choose Run Command -> "xterm".. and fix it..
[04:05] <elvstone> so it's good now.
[04:05] <elvstone> i just lost my KDE settings, but that wasn't much.
[04:05] <Hawkwind> archangel_: When, as in, be specific
[04:05] <archangel_> ok
[04:05] <Gh0st75> i have the vnc4 server package selected, what is the specific ssh package i'd need called?
[04:06] <archangel_> here it goes
[04:06] <archangel_> ....
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> !info ssh
[04:06] <Hawkwind> Gh0st75: openssh-server ?
[04:06] <ubotu> ssh: Secure shell client and server (transitional package). In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.2p1-7ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1 kB, installed size 32 kB
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> its 'ssh' :P  i think
[04:06] <otaku-san> elvstone: awesome!  so you got it back?
[04:06] <Gh0st75> k, got openssh-server selected too, thanks
[04:06] <Hawkwind> Yeah I guess so.  I'm still not used to the different package names as I'm used to Mandriva's naming scheme still
[04:07] <Hawkwind> Dr_Willis: Hah!  Guess mine was right :P
[04:07] <archangel_> my bro was upgrading the kernal......
[04:07] <Gh0st75> only package scheme i'm used to is UPS, heh
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> Gh0st75,  you may want to use a very lightweight window maanger also. for vncing around..  it can get laggy with kde and gnome.
[04:07] <archangel_> it was at 98% done and he pulled the plug and shut the laptop down
[04:07] <archangel_> cause he was in a hurry
[04:08] <Hawkwind> archangel_: So boot to a different kernel
[04:08] <archangel_> now the pc wont boot
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> or he trashed the filesystem
[04:08] <archangel_> how do you do that?
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> the grub menu should show severla kernels.
[04:08] <Gh0st75> yes, i do fully intend to switch to a more streamlined desktop once i'm a little more familiar with linux, i mainly chose kde for windows feel so the learning curve wouldn't scare me too much at first
[04:08] <Hawkwind> archangel_: There is a point where you can hit 'ESC' I think it is to select a different kernel
[04:08] <Gh0st75> Xubuntu i guess would make a good choice eventually
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> I find the 'hidden grub menu' default to be very very stupid., :P one  of the first things i change,
[04:08] <archangel_> ok let me try.... it's right here beside me
[04:09] <Dr_Willis> Gh0st75,  may want even lighter then that. Like fluxbox, or icewm
[04:09] <Gh0st75> those pretty much entirely comman-line driven?
[04:09] <Dr_Willis> No. :P
[04:09] <Dr_Willis> just window managers, not full desktops.
[04:09] <Gh0st75> cool, more stuff to research :)
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> so they use less resources
[04:10] <archangel_> ohh sweet, I am in the menu
[04:10] <Gh0st75> compatibility and ease of transition are my focus currently, but i fully intend to focus on functionality and efficiency after that
[04:11] <Gh0st75> i've heard of fluxbox before, never heard of icewm tho
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> old skool. :P
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> windows 95is look/feel.
[04:12] <archangel_> Hawkwind: I am in the menu now and it looks like I have 6 choices (however they all look to be the same version)
[04:12] <elvstone> otaku-san: yep.
[04:12] <Gh0st75> ah, not that old school then
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> then ya got the UBER light window managers. :P
[04:12] <elvstone> otaku-san: sorry if i sounded a little harsh before, it's very late. going to bed now. thanks.
[04:12] <archangel_> Hawkwind: every other choice is a "recovery mode"
[04:13] <archangel_> Hawkwind: is the top choice the latest and so on down the list?
[04:13] <Hawkwind> archangel_: So pick one about half way down the screen, that is *not* 'recovery mode'
[04:13] <j__> hi
[04:13] <archangel_> Hawkwind: got ya
[04:13] <Hawkwind> archangel_: The top is the default, which is the one it tries to boot to when you don't select anything different
[04:14] <Hawkwind> archangel_: So even the second one on the list that is *not* 'recovery mode' should work for ya
[04:14] <j__> would you recommend automatic or easy ubuntu?
[04:14] <j__> automatix*
[04:14] <Hawkwind> j__: apt-get from the terminal :P
[04:14] <archangel_> Hawkwind: yeah, it seems to be working
[04:15] <archangel_> Hawkwind: you think my drivers will still be there or would I have to reload them all
[04:15] <Hawkwind> archangel_: What you'll want to do once the machine is booted, is go into Adept and remove the latest version of the kernel.  Chances are that is the top entry in the grub menu and then you can try and update the kernel again
[04:15] <Hawkwind> archangel_: Video drivers ?  Possible, but hard to say really
[04:15] <archangel_> ok
[04:16] <Hawkwind> archangel_: Actually, as soon as you get the machine booted, I'd try to update the system and see if it possibly finishes the update to the new kernel
[04:16] <j__> ok where should i go to read about installing codecs
[04:16] <Kr4t05> !tell j__ about restricted
[04:16] <Hawkwind> !restricted formats > j__
[04:17] <archangel_> Hawkwind: ok, wow it's already requesting to do what you said
[04:18] <archangel_> Hawkwind: man, the intelligence of this OS kills me
[04:19] <archangel_> I am VERY experienced in Window$ and M$ is nowhere near this
[04:19] <otaku-san> archangel_: of course it's not...;)
[04:19] <archangel_> be back later
[04:19] <archangel_> Hey thanks guys
[04:19] <j__> learning curve/
[04:19] <j__> ?
[04:19] <archangel_> peace and love!!
[04:20] <otaku-san> ok now I'm here to bug you guys
[04:21] <Hawkwind> archangel_: Glad to have helped :)
[04:25] <playtime3> Dr_Willis: can u please give me that link again
[04:26] <playtime3> opps
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> bot 101. :P
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> !apt
[04:26] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[04:29] <CaBlGuY> !limewire
[04:29] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[04:31] <eamon> Limewire sucks ass
[04:31] <soulrider> use frostwire
[04:32] <CVirus> !frostwire
[04:32] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[04:35] <Gh0st75> frostwire? sounds interestin
[04:35] <soulrider> its like limewire
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> i use it under windows
[04:35] <soulrider> just more free and more opensource :P
[04:35] <CaBlGuY> readin now..
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> and the riaa is going after limewire.. so.....
[04:35] <OOD> limewire got sued by the RIAA
[04:35] <OOD> yeah
[04:35] <Gh0st75> i normally avoid those p2p programs cause of malware, but i usually trust most open source
[04:36] <Gh0st75> to install it i just copy the command line at that link into konsole?
[04:36] <soulrider> the *AA can eat my arse
[04:36] <Dr_Willis> actually ive seen very little malware on them. :P
[04:36] <Gh0st75> only installed packages on this so far, yet to install any other programs
[04:36] <Dr_Willis> of course with linux.... its not that big an issue.
[04:37] <soulrider> limewire/frostwire is safe
[04:37] <soulrider> yea
[04:37] <soulrider> its not like somehtign si gonna delete your c: :P
[04:37] <Gh0st75> yeah, the restricted access helps prevent from most malware virii or hacker worries
[04:38] <soulrider> yea but its not like theres any viruses/malware etc
[04:38] <CaBlGuY> ok so, Im not able to get frostwire.. :/
[04:38] <soulrider> why not
[04:38] <CaBlGuY> sayin the package aint there..
[04:38] <soulrider> hang on
[04:38] <CaBlGuY> k
[04:39] <soulrider> http://www.frostwire.com/download.php?file=http://mirror1.peercommons.net/frostwire/4.10.9/FrostWire-4.10.9-2.i586.deb
[04:39] <soulrider> downlaod that
[04:39] <soulrider> right click
[04:39] <soulrider> and look for install package
[04:39] <CaBlGuY> ok, I found it on the website.. :p
[04:39] <CaBlGuY> www.frostwire.com
[04:40] <soulrider> ive been using this little program that will ave the music you listen to in Pandora.com to your hard drive
[04:40] <mjh> anyone know if there is a way to easily sort items in kmenu other than manually doing it?
[04:40] <soulrider> i dont know why it isnt working on linux though, since its java it should
[04:41] <soulrider> Hawkwind: are you there?
[04:41] <soulrider> !shipit
[04:41] <ubotu> shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org
[04:42] <Bearcat> !seen foot
[04:42] <ubotu> I last saw foot (n=lovely@64-17-77-17.co.warpdriveonline.com) 12h 3m 45s ago, quiting: Remote closed the connection
[04:42] <Bearcat> humph
[04:42] <Bearcat> *scampers off*
[04:42] <ivan`> how well does kubuntu ppc work? especially on an 867 mhz old-gen powerbook G4?
[04:43] <ivan`> i'm concerned about sleep and my netgear pcmcia card
[04:43] <mjh> sleep never works for me
[04:43] <mjh> so good luck
[04:43] <ivan`> heh
[04:43] <ivan`> if it boots in 1 minute it doesn't matter to me
[04:43] <j__> anyone know where i can find a wmv codec for kubuntu 6.06
[04:43] <OOD> !w32
[04:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:43] <OOD> !w32codec
[04:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w32codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:44] <OOD> !w32codecs
[04:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:44] <OOD> finally :P
[04:44] <ivan`> that thing needs a fuzzy search
[04:44] <CaBlGuY> well crap, now I need to update Java.. :/
[04:44] <j__> !w32codecs
[04:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:44] <CaBlGuY> !JRE 1.4
[04:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about JRE 1.4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:44] <maltaethiron> !java
[04:44] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[04:44] <soulrider> CaBlGuY: do it via CLI, if you use adept youll have some trouble
[04:44] <CaBlGuY> !JRE
[04:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about JRE - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:45] <soulrider> !j2se
[04:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about j2se - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:45] <mjh> what are you trying to do
[04:45] <CaBlGuY> soulrider:  whats the command?\
[04:45] <mjh> install java?
[04:45] <CaBlGuY> nope..
[04:45] <CaBlGuY> If you have it installed already..  u need an upgrade..
[04:45] <CaBlGuY> IE: upgrade, JRE whatever..
[04:45] <CaBlGuY> right soulrider?
[04:46] <mjh> download, extract, put in front of path
[04:46] <CaBlGuY> actually  it should be something like..   upgarde jre 1.4
[04:46] <CaBlGuY> or somethin like that
[04:46] <soulrider> i dont quite remember the name of the package
[04:46] <soulrider> im not sure
[04:46] <soulrider> hang on
[04:46] <CaBlGuY> Hmmmm
[04:47] <CaBlGuY> mayeb nalioth knows.. :p
[04:47] <nalioth> knows what?
[04:47] <soulrider> in console type
[04:47] <soulrider> sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[04:47] <CaBlGuY> how to upgrade to JRE 1.4
[04:47] <soulrider> that will do the trick
[04:47] <soulrider> i dont think you can upgrade
[04:47] <CaBlGuY> Ahh  that would be better even. :)
[04:47] <soulrider> id go for a full install, just in case
[04:48] <eamon> CaBlGuY: You want JRE 1.5
[04:49] <CaBlGuY> yea.,..    I already got sun-java5-jre installed
[04:49] <eamon> You want that one: Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_06-b05)
[04:50] <eamon> !java
[04:50] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[04:50] <CaBlGuY> ok so the command would be sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[04:50] <Gh0st75> so if i ran the sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre in konsole that soulrider mentioned, do i still need java 2? the first one was for 1.5 correct?
[04:50] <CaBlGuY> hmmmm
[04:51] <nikkun> has anyone ever had a problem with cp omitting a directory that it should be able to copy?
[04:51] <eamon> you need to follow that page to install java. simply typing sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre is not enough
[04:51] <CaBlGuY> but mine is sayin I already got the newest version installed.,. IE: Java 5
[04:51] <eamon> type java -version
[04:52] <j__> thanks ubotu ;-)
[04:52] <eamon> CaBlGuY: type "java -version"
[04:52] <CaBlGuY> got 1.4.2
[04:52] <eamon> see you need to update your system
[04:52] <CaBlGuY> sooooooo
[04:52] <eamon> to use the new java
[04:53] <CaBlGuY> just do a upgrade then?
[04:53] <eamon> no
[04:53] <eamon> folow the instructions here
[04:53] <eamon> !java
[04:53] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[04:53] <eamon> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java <-- go here
[04:53] <y0shi> Hi, I need help. I have two sound devices (onboard and pci sb live). for some reason the sb live doesnt work (although it is recognized) the funny thing is I can hear the microphone playback.
[04:56] <y0shi> help?
[04:57] <Hawkwind> soulrider: I am now, what's up ?
[04:57] <soulrider> ah hey
[04:57] <soulrider> well, i need to insatll vmware, but before you say somehting
[04:57] <Agios> http://www.timia.net/agios
[04:57] <soulrider> yes, i followed the wiki :P
[04:57] <soulrider> but it asks me for some stuff i have no idea
[04:57] <excitatory> wow, thanks for the tip of frostwire.. it's probably the fastest java app i've ever used..like EVAR.
[04:57] <y0shi> please, someone, help me with my sound problem.
[04:58] <Hawkwind> soulrider: You want the free version, vmware-server or whatever it is.  Download it from the vmware site directly
[04:58] <maltaethiron> guys, i need help installing tdfsb, a 3d filebrowser for kde
[04:58] <Hawkwind> y0shi: Disable the onboard one within the BIOS and then the SBlive should just work out of the box
[04:58] <soulrider> i got workstation
[04:59] <soulrider> i just dont know how to install :P
[04:59] <Hawkwind> soulrider: That might be the free version
[04:59] <crimsun> y0shi: ``asoundconf list''
[04:59] <Hawkwind> soulrider: I don't use vmware, so you might try in #VmWare
[04:59] <crimsun> y0shi: what's the output from that command?
[04:59] <j__> what should i do for dvd video playback
[05:00] <soulrider> Hawkwind: are there any free programs similar to vmware and that work as good as vmware does?
[05:00] <y0shi> sec. checking
[05:00] <basko> SOS: I tried installing a .deb package a while ago; It seems like the package was partially installed. So now every package management system: apt-get, aptitude, dpkg complain about this. Is there away to forcible remove this partial package? I asked because it seems like the .deb file wasnt made properly. Is there as way to hack the package management system to ignore that particular package? It's just an application; no real important files for the
[05:01] <excitatory> basko: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:01] <y0shi> Hawkwind: SI7012 \n Live
[05:01] <crimsun> y0shi: and you want to use the Live, correct?
[05:01] <y0shi> yes..
[05:01] <crimsun> y0shi: then execute this: asoundconf set-default-card Live
[05:01] <crimsun> y0shi: then log out of KDE and back in
[05:01] <y0shi> o. sounds promising:)
[05:02] <y0shi> be back in a jiffy
[05:02] <soulrider> when i order from shipit, should i include a countrya dna rea code in the hpone field or just my phone ?
[05:02] <basko> excitatory: tried that and nothing printed out. is that expected?
[05:03] <maltaethiron> is there anyone not busy that wants to help me out?  its not a life or death problem..but its a little annoying
[05:03] <j__> man mplayer web extension runs like crap for me :-/
[05:03] <soulrider> maltaethiron: im not pro but maybe i can help you
[05:03] <Hawkwind> soulrider: There is qemu.  Let me give you a URL about it real quick
[05:03] <soulrider> ok, thanks
[05:03] <excitatory> basko: not sure.. sometimes that's ok, i believe.. idk.. try installing something.. or retry that deb
[05:03] <Hawkwind> soulrider: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=187413&highlight=kqemu
[05:04] <maltaethiron> soulrider: im trying to install this program called tdfsb
[05:04] <basko> excitatory: tried another package, the error is still there
[05:04] <maltaethiron> soulrider: its a 3d filebrowser
[05:04] <excitatory> basko: what deb did you try to install?
[05:04] <soulrider> ok
[05:04] <soulrider> you got a link ?
[05:04] <basko> excitatory: the pre release jedit deb
[05:04] <basko> excitatory: from that site
[05:04] <maltaethiron> soulrider: me?
[05:04] <soulrider> yea
[05:05] <soulrider> where did you get it from
[05:05] <guy> crimsun: thanks alot!
[05:05] <maltaethiron> i saw it while browsing through synaptic
[05:05] <excitatory> basko: hrm..was it a debian package or ubuntu specific??  (generally debian ones are safe, but any time you mix software trees, problems can ensue)
[05:05] <soulrider> uhm ok
[05:05] <soulrider> let me see if i can find it
[05:06] <maltaethiron> ok
[05:06] <soulrider> what is the problem youre having ?
[05:06] <archangel_> Hawkwind: the laptop boots now, but now adept is telling me that another instance is running and asks me to close it. How do I do this when I cannot see any other program running?
[05:06] <basko> excitatory: debian
[05:06] <excitatory> basko: i just tried the package.. it doesn't work
[05:07] <basko> excitatory: did it mess up your system?
[05:07] <maltaethiron> soulrider: when i tried to install it, synaptic said there was some dependancy problem
[05:07] <soulrider> let me see if i can install it
[05:07] <maltaethiron> soulrider: heres the error message
[05:07] <maltaethiron> soulrider:
[05:07] <maltaethiron> tdfsb:
[05:07] <maltaethiron>  Depends: libsdl-image1.2 (>=1.2.3) but it is not installable
[05:07] <maltaethiron>  Depends: libsdl1.2debian (>1.2.7+1.2.8) but it is not installable
[05:07] <maltaethiron>  Depends: libsmpeg0c2  but it is not installable
[05:09] <excitatory> basko: no.. i was just able to install another app.. jedit didn't even install.. it errored out.
[05:09] <soulrider> hang on, today i  had some trouble installing somehtign and ym aept is screwed up
[05:09] <soulrider> ill fix it ina  sec
[05:10] <excitatory> basko: try purging it..
[05:10] <basko> excitatory: your're lucky mine messed up any other installation
[05:10] <basko> excitatory: how do i do that?
[05:11] <excitatory> basko: um..you don't know about purging?  how do you remove software?  sudo aptitude purge <package>
[05:11] <excitatory> or i suppose, sudo apt-get purge <package>
[05:11] <soulrider> maltaethiron: i managed to isntall it but ti crashes when i open it
[05:11] <excitatory> whatever your preference is
[05:11] <soulrider> i suggets you go tot heir website, maybe you can find a newer version
[05:11] <soulrider> or the source and be bale to compile it yourself
[05:12] <maltaethiron> ok, thanks soulrider, as long as i know its not just my computer
[05:12] <waggle7622frack> When I try to share a folder on my network but all the options are greyed out. Am I missing something? I get this with alot of system settings even with root password.
[05:13] <basko> excitatory: it still errored out man
[05:13] <excitatory> basko: sudo dpkg -C
[05:14] <basko> The following packages are in a mess due to serious problems during
[05:14] <basko> installation.  They must be reinstalled for them (and any packages
[05:14] <basko> that depend on them) to function properly:
[05:14] <basko>  jedit
[05:15] <basko> excitatory: that
[05:15] <basko> excitatory: that is the error (or a variation of it)
[05:16] <excitatory> this is actually one problem i have with the deb system.. mixing trees can fsck your system.. at least ostensibly.
[05:16] <excitatory> so yea..
[05:16] <ubuntu> hijos de putaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[05:16] <ubuntu> xd
[05:17] <ubuntu> hello
[05:17] <ubuntu> conchatumares
[05:17] <ubuntu> hijode puta
[05:17] <ubuntu> conchasumares
[05:17] <jmichaelx> that is not very appropriate
[05:17] <wind> how do i set it to automatically connect to a wireless router
[05:17] <ubuntu> chupenle la zorra a sus mamas
[05:17] <ubuntu> chupenle las tetas a sus  mamas
[05:17] <ubuntu> conchatumares
[05:17] <basko> excitatory: lol....
[05:17] <ubuntu> hijos de puta
[05:17] <jmichaelx> ubuntu needs to be banned
[05:17] <wind> and how do i turn off all these req. password things
[05:18] <basko> excitatory: yah, but the funny thing is the package never really installed. So I
[05:18] <excitatory> basko: i'll look into it more.. but in the mean time, ask in #ubuntu .. tell them you installed a debian-specific package, and that it failed and is preventing you from doing anything further package-management-wise..
[05:18] <excitatory> ubuntu: behave yourself
[05:18] <basko> excitatory: ok thanks will do that
[05:18] <ubuntu> united states is one sarat the pich
[05:18] <excitatory> basko: yeah, and dpkg --configure -a should have fixed that.. ALWAYS works for me.
[05:19] <soulrider> ubuntu, callate un poquito
[05:19] <ubuntu> a
[05:19] <ubuntu> a
[05:19] <ubuntu> a
[05:19] <ubuntu> a
[05:19] <ubuntu> a
[05:19] <ubuntu> a
[05:19] <ubuntu> a
[05:19] <ubuntu> a
[05:19] <ubuntu> a
[05:19] <ubuntu> a
[05:19] <ubuntu> a
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[05:19] <ubuntu> a
[05:19] <ubuntu> a
[05:19] <ubuntu> xd
[05:19] <ubuntu> xd
[05:19] <ubuntu> okay
[05:19] <soulrider> the worst is that hes using kubuntu....
[05:19] <ubuntu> john cena is berry good
[05:19] <jmichaelx> !mods
[05:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mods - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:20] <soulrider> !op
[05:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about op - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:20] <jmichaelx> !ops
[05:20] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, uniq, Mez, jpatric, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, or gnomefreak
[05:20] <soulrider> :)
[05:20] <jmichaelx> lol
[05:20] <soulrider> :) owned
[05:20] <ubuntu> im not english
[05:20] <ubuntu> sorry
[05:20] <soulrider> eos no import
[05:20] <soulrider> eso no importa*
[05:20] <soulrider> ok
[05:21] <jmichaelx> sorry to bother you, imbrandon
[05:21] <soulrider> i was gonna go for some swearing in spanish
[05:21] <imbrandon_> np
[05:21] <soulrider> but that worked :P
[05:21] <soulrider> thank you
[05:21] <soulrider> <3
[05:21] <russ1> What can I use in kubuntu to rip a CD to an ISO?
[05:21] <excitatory> russ1: k3b
[05:21] <soulrider> imbrandon_: now that youre here can i ask you somehting?
[05:21] <soulrider> in shipit, should i include my country and area code in the phone number?
[05:22] <imbrandon_> thanks nalioth i was looking for the hostname
[05:22] <imbrandon_> soulrider: sure
[05:22] <soulrider> ok
[05:22] <soulrider> do i have to put ( ) or just the numbers
[05:22] <imbrandon_> just the numbers should be ok
[05:22] <soulrider> ok, thanks
[05:22] <soulrider> any spaces? :P
[05:22] <imbrandon_> its read byu a "real person"
[05:22] <imbrandon_> s/byu/by
[05:23] <wind> how do i set it to automatically connect to a wireless router
[05:23] <wind> and how do i turn off all these req. password things
[05:23] <soulrider> ok, im gonna order
[05:23] <imbrandon_> standard +15554447777 should be ok
[05:23] <soulrider> =D
[05:23] <soulrider> im not in the US though :/
[05:23] <wind> like a req password to use IM, to connect to a network, etc
[05:23] <jmichaelx> has anyone ever seen the ebay bidding app that some linux distros have? does it exist in any ubuntu repo? i think it is called 'jdbid' or something similar
[05:23] <imbrandon_> soulrider: yea but the full think is what i mean
[05:24] <soulrider> kk
[05:24] <imbrandon_> !info jdbid dapper
[05:24] <ubotu> Package jdbid does not exist in dapper
[05:24] <imbrandon_> !find bid
[05:24] <ubotu> Found: libfribidi-dev, libfribidi0, libid3-3.8.3-dev, libid3-3.8.3c2a, libid3tag0 (and 17 others)
[05:24] <soulrider> err, what should i use for "" "n" ?
[05:24] <imbrandon_> jmichaelx: best to search packages.ubuntu.com
[05:24] <nalioth> imbrandon_: which one are you? i just /msg'd imbrandon
[05:24] <imbrandon_> soulrider: yes
[05:24] <soulrider> ok
[05:24] <russ1> When I set my laptop to "Suspend" when the lid is closed under "Laptops & Power" in system settings, suspend works great when I close the lid. How can I make it Suspend without closing the lid?
[05:25] <imbrandon_> nalioth: thats my lappy its in the other room
[05:25] <imbrandon_> i'm on _ atm
[05:25] <basko> excitatory: well no help there as yet...no one replys :/
[05:25] <jmichaelx> imbrandon: ok, i have the right name now 'jbidwatcher'
[05:25] <imbrandon_> !info jbidwatcher
[05:25] <ubotu> Package jbidwatcher does not exist in dapper
[05:25] <excitatory> wind: sounds like the password to kwallet... the app which manages your passwords.. in your taskbar, there should be an icon for kwallet.. right click, configure.. go to the access control tab and make sure, "Prompt when an application accesses an open wallet" is checked.. then when it pops up.. always allow the program access to kwallet.
[05:25] <imbrandon_> !info jbidwatcher edgy
[05:25] <ubotu> Package jbidwatcher does not exist in edgy
[05:25] <imbrandon_> guess not
[05:26] <excitatory> basko: yea.. #ubuntu is usually full of clueless new users.
[05:26] <jmichaelx> ok, i have it on a mepis PC, but could not find it in any repo i have for k/ubuntu
[05:27] <excitatory> imbrandon, perhaps you could help basko and i..
[05:27] <xenoterracide> what repo is kdevelop in?
[05:27] <soulrider> hey! m a clueless new user! :P
[05:27] <tobias_> :)
[05:27] <tobias_> as we all are
[05:27] <excitatory> imbrandon, he had installed a debian package that fails to install.. and so now it's half installed, and preventing any further installations
[05:27] <tobias_> at some point of time
[05:27] <draik> soulrider, since when are you clueless :P
[05:27] <russ1> I'm pretty new, and very clueless.
[05:27] <excitatory> imbrandon, i suggested dpkg --configure -a.. but that's not working apparently.
[05:28] <imbrandon_> excitatory: sudo dpkg --purge remove <package>
[05:28] <excitatory> basko: ^^
[05:28] <basko> imbrandon_: we tried that as well
[05:28] <soulrider> ive had linux for like
[05:28] <soulrider> dunno
[05:28] <excitatory> imbrandon, thank you kindly, sir
[05:28] <soulrider> week and a half :P
[05:28] <tobias_> this is the right place to be if your clueless new user, because everyone is so nice and helpfull :D
[05:28] <draik> I've had linux for about... no more than about 3-4 weeks
[05:29] <russ1> I'm going on 6 months.
[05:29] <tobias_> ive had it for a week now i think
[05:29] <draik> I write down everything that I come across and just try to remember things
[05:29] <Gh0st75> lots here like that draik, you're twice as experienced with it as me :)
[05:29] <xenoterracide> will if everyone is nice and helpfull tobias_ what repository is kdevelop in?
[05:29] <imbrandon_> basko: and it dosent remove ?
[05:29] <basko> imbrandon_: yeah, tried it again...same thing
[05:29] <imbrandon_> pastebin the output please
[05:29] <excitatory> well hey.. by 'clueless new user', i was attempting to be respectful and point out that the reason he wasn't getting help was because no one that knew anything wasn't around.. i try to avoid offending anyone by calling them, 'lame noobs' or whatever..
[05:29] <jmichaelx> this room and #xubuntu have been life savers for me
[05:29] <tobias_> xeno: err Im a bigger noob than u m8e sorry I would help u if i could even figure out what half u asked is
[05:30] <draik> Gh0st75, I am trying to get a manual together so that I can put it on the wiki for all new-comers
[05:30] <tobias_> xeno: I only used linux for like 5-6 days  I would love to help u if i could :)
[05:30] <basko> imbrandon_: this is what i get E: The package jedit needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it
[05:30] <Gh0st75> always good to get more tutorials to ease folks into it, without them only the hardcore techies would be able to break away from M$
[05:31] <tobias_> xenoterracide: but you are the right place, whenever i have a problem i come her and they help me with like anything
[05:31] <xenoterracide> need more tutorials that show people how to use the graphical interface
[05:31] <excitatory> basko: well, the problem is that it won't install in teh first place (i tried the package myself), and so you can't re-install it..
[05:31] <jontydog> Hi all how do I add my computer to mshome network?
[05:31] <xenoterracide> right...
[05:31] <excitatory> basko: so somehow we need to zap it out as an entry.. which is what the -a option should do.
[05:31] <draik> I got fedup with micro$haft so I turned to Linux
[05:31] <Gh0st75> my first hurdles were codecs for movies and mp3 playback, and mounting my windows partitions, not sure if that's where most people first run into frustration, or it that was just me
[05:31] <xenoterracide> I know linux pretty well but I hate sources.list
[05:32] <basko> excitatory: exactly...is there a way to hack this manually so that it just dont recognize the discrepancy?
[05:32] <tobias_> xenoterracide: u should go find the forums if u cant find help here
[05:32] <excitatory> xenoterracide: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:32] <draik> Gh0st75, that's why people turn AWAY... can't do something so they figure they got in over their heads and turn back to what they are used to
[05:32] <tobias_> xenoterracide: im not sure where the forums are but im sure someone here does?
[05:32] <imbrandon_> www.ubuntuforums.org
[05:33] <Gh0st75> was very simple to get those two issues resolved, couple minutes with the right (and uncluttered) info and problems solved
[05:33] <excitatory> draik: that's why one hopes they realise that it doesn't matter that linux has a learning curve.. there's a community there to help and teach you.. and that's more than any other os can say.
[05:33] <basko> imbrandon_: do u know a way to manually hack the package mgnmnt sys so to remove the discrepancy?
[05:33] <xenoterracide> hmm... source-o-matic interesting.. although I've seen similar things before
[05:34] <xenoterracide> will it help me find the kdevelop repository so I can apt-get kdevelop?
[05:34] <tobias_> imbrandon: thanx :)
[05:34] <draik> excitatory, I can only speak for the m$ side of it (along with Kubuntu)...At least Linux doesn't charge you for simple help
[05:34] <imbrandon_> basko: not if it cant find the archive, you need to grab it , try to reinstall it , and the remove it , once it fails the first time to install run "sudo apt-get install -f " with no packages
[05:34] <xenoterracide> why I like gentoo... no repos finding
[05:34] <draik> #kubuntu is my life saver
[05:34] <Gh0st75> my current challenges are getting java working, frostwire and getting my cam working in kopete
[05:34] <draik> I am on my 2nd install of Kubuntu. I messed up my first install while playing with just about every possible option
[05:35] <imbrandon_> xenoterracide: thats all in the universe and multiverse repos you shouldent need more than those
[05:35] <Gh0st75> indeed, this place is invaluable, it's on my auto-join for konversation
[05:35] <draik> I have my cam working in Kopete
[05:35] <draik> I have java working
[05:35] <Gh0st75> i messed up my first install trying to mount my windows partitions
[05:35] <draik> I don't use frostwire
[05:35] <xenoterracide> it is ? doesn't seem to be
[05:35] <draik> I have my NTFS partitions mounted, just in case I need to pull something like pix, music, etc
[05:35] <Gh0st75> what cam you have draik? i have an intel pocket pro pc
[05:36] <basko> imbrandon_: same crap man
[05:36] <draik> My cam is Creative Live Web Cam
[05:36] <excitatory> xenoterracide: sources.list is really something that only needs to be touched when you first install.. or that random time you have a 3rd party repo to add.. i don't see how you hate it so much
[05:36] <tobias_> ghost75: java should work fine, I installed java jre something from adept, have u tried that?
[05:36] <Gh0st75> yes tobias, but i understand there's more involved than just the package install, got some pages bookmarked to read tomorrow
[05:37] <tobias_> aha
[05:37] <tobias_> :)
[05:38] <Gh0st75> linux research makes for great reading material at work, even if most of it is still over my head
[05:38] <jontydog> hi please can someone help me with Samba and mshome?
[05:38] <draik> The only issue I have is that thunderbird won't run under my account, only under root
[05:38] <Gh0st75> a wiki for the complete neophyte would always be an asset
[05:38] <excitatory> xenoterracide: well, it's easy for gentoo to have a mass of available packages.. because all it requires the maintainer to do it keep up with a simple text file (ebuild).. and leaves it up to the user to compile.  98% of the software one will ever need is available in one of the ubuntu repos.. the rest just requires a little time to add in a repo.. and considering you don't have to compile, the deb system is hundreds of times more eff
[05:39] <draik> jontydog, what is your problem and we will see what we can do to help you
[05:39] <Gh0st75> never use pop mail clients myself
[05:39] <jontydog> cheers draik
[05:39] <jontydog> I can read all pcs in the house that have xp installed
[05:39] <draik> np jontydog
[05:39] <jontydog> but I can't gain access to this kubuntu pc
[05:39] <basko> imbrandon_: this is crazy; because of one package i cant install anything else... I hope this is not suggesting a re-install of Kubuntu???!!!
[05:39] <ironfroggy> can i adjust how much firefox scrolls per mousewheel event?
[05:39] <jontydog> keeps asking for a password and I haven't set one
[05:40] <imbrandon_> basko: no
[05:40] <excitatory> draik, Gh0st75, i'm assuming you've seen this: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[05:40] <imbrandon_> hold on
[05:40] <draik> disable your winxp firewall... known to cause issues... just use another firewall instead on your winxp systems
[05:40] <draik> excitatory, yes I have
[05:40] <Gh0st75> psychocats i think it's called has some good tutorials and guides for beginners too
[05:40] <jontydog> thats not the problem draik as I can read those from linux with no problem
[05:41] <lucas> hi. how can i change the kmenu icon size?
[05:41] <excitatory> ironfroggy: you can change it system wide.. go into System Settings, Peripherals, Mouse, Advanced tab, then adjust the bottom setting
[05:42] <draik> gh0st75, want to complete that sentence??? "...  i think it's called has some good tutorials ..."
[05:42] <jontydog> I can see the linux pc from XP but when I connect to it I am asked for a username and password
[05:42] <ironfroggy> i didnt know if that would affect firefox, being that its not a KDE app.
[05:42] <lucas> hi. how can i change the kmenu icon size?
[05:42] <draik> lucas, right click on your kmenu and select menu editor
[05:42] <lucas> thx
[05:43] <lucas> a lot
[05:43] <draik> lucas, sorry, I was thinking of something else, that won't do it
[05:43] <lucas> ok
[05:43] <lucas> no prob
[05:43] <ironfroggy> doesnt seem to fix my problem...
[05:43] <excitatory> ironfroggy: you may be right.. is smoothscrolling enabled in firefox prefs
[05:43] <tk> excitatory: speaking of the deb system, if I wanted to reconfigure one of the packages I installed using adept... how would you go about that?
[05:43] <draik> Go to K Menu > System Settings > Appearance > Icons
[05:43] <excitatory> ironfroggy: that will slow it down
[05:43] <draik> lucas ^
[05:44] <draik> That will do it for you lucas
[05:44] <draik> Go to K Menu > System Settings > Appearance > Icons
[05:44] <ironfroggy> maybe thats what i need to get rid of.. i just know firefox scrolling sucks and konqueror doesnt.
[05:44] <lucas> draik: now?
[05:44] <draik> jontydog, did you set up a user account?
[05:44] <lucas> draik: advanced?
[05:45] <ironfroggy> hmm.. no, smoothscrolling isnt enabled, but it seems to act like it is.
[05:45] <excitatory> tk: not sure, since i don't use a gui for package management.. but you can open up konsole, and do, sudo dpkg --reconfigure <package name here>
[05:45] <draik> lucas, yes
[05:45] <draik> sorry, forgot that last part
[05:45] <tk> excitatory: thanks I'll give that a try
[05:45] <ironfroggy> wait a second. enabling smooth scrolling fixes the problem, but werent you suggesting that i _disable_ it?
[05:46] <excitatory> ironfroggy: you said you wanted to quicken the scroll rate, no?
[05:46] <jontydog> draik: the only account I have on this machine is the one I log in with
[05:46] <draik> lucas, did that work for you?
[05:46] <excitatory> ironfroggy: it slows it down for me.. making it appear smoother
[05:46] <jontydog> and user pass doesn't work
[05:46] <draik> jontydog, try with that username/PW
[05:46] <draik> oh ok
[05:46] <tk> dpkg: unknown option --reconfigure
[05:46] <lucas> draik: no :(
[05:46] <lucas> draik: there is no option for the kmenu
[05:46] <Gh0st75> draik: psychocats i believe is the site, found lots of tutorials there when googling various linux beginner issues
[05:47] <excitatory> tk: ack, my bad.. sudo dpkg-reconfigure <package>
[05:47] <tk> ahh its just configure
[05:47] <jontydog> this is driving me mad as it is only this that is stopping me from getting rid of xp off this machine
[05:47] <tk> ohh
[05:47] <draik> gh0st75, LOL... thought psychocats was a nick... whoops!!!
[05:47] <excitatory> jontydog: what's the problem?
[05:47] <Gh0st75> heh
[05:48] <CaBlGuY> well, I've got the latest install of Java and frostwire is still saying that I need the "latest" Java client..
[05:48] <CaBlGuY> :/
[05:49] <excitatory> CaBlGuY: one sec, i know what's up
[05:49] <CaBlGuY> okey dokey
[05:49] <lucas> draik: maybe the manual way? kickerrc?
[05:49] <draik> lucas, I think that it depends on the type of icons you have set for your K Menu that matter... if you have your K Menu is set for small icons change the small icon size and etc
[05:49] <shadeofgrey> hey everybody
[05:49] <Gh0st75> anyhoo, gone to bed, away til the morning
[05:49] <Gh0st75> night all
[05:49] <shadeofgrey> how do i add an icon that indicates my network activity to a panel
[05:49] <draik> night gh0st75
[05:50] <tk> excitatory: doesnt give me the option to add config options just... returns to cmd line
[05:50] <excitatory> CaBlGuY: run this, then try frostwire: sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-1.5.0-sun
[05:50] <CaBlGuY> ok, brb
[05:50] <shadeofgrey> theres a really great one in ubuntu on gnome but i havent been able to find the kde equivelant to it
[05:50] <draik> shadeofgrey, I use superkaramba to show me the network activity
[05:50] <shadeofgrey> and damn this new keyboard is sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
[05:50] <draik> I use KDE
[05:50] <shadeofgrey> oooo
[05:51] <excitatory> tk: oh.. you just want to configure an app?  generally there's a specific config file for the app in /etc.. but each application is different.. what app are you attempting to configure?
[05:51] <shadeofgrey> superkaramba is that thing that can make my entire system act like os x tiger -- with a full dock and everything huh?
[05:51] <lucas> draik: nvm
[05:51] <tk> trying to get amarok to use a newer xine engine
[05:51] <draik> make sure you have multiverse enabled in your repos and download "superkaramba" and then go to http://www.kde-look.org and get SystemCheck for Karamba and you'll be all set
[05:52] <draik> lucas, did you get it?
[05:52] <CaBlGuY> Looks like it's workin..  thanks excitatory..  ;)
[05:52] <shadeofgrey> can somebody guide me through how to get superkramba to make my machine look like os-x?
[05:52] <excitatory> tk: heh.. yea.. to do that is completely unrelated to what you've been asking me
[05:53] <jontydog> excitatory: my problem is I have set up a samba network on this machine and can't connect to it from my xp machines
[05:53] <draik> Sysinfo for 'Lair': Linux 2.6.15-26-686 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)4CPU3.20GHz at 3216 MHz (6432 bogomips), , RAM: 1246/3031MB, 99 proc's, 9.37h up
[05:53] <excitatory> CaBlGuY: yea, no prob :D
[05:53] <lucas> draik: nope
[05:53] <Hawkwind> shadeofgrey: Superkaramba is a system applet.  Has nothing to do with making your system look like OS-X
[05:53] <jontydog> well I can connect to it but its asking me for a user name and password
[05:53] <excitatory> tk: what version of amarok are you running?
[05:53] <wind> thanks excitatory for the password thing
[05:54] <excitatory> wind: ^__^
[05:54] <tk> excitatory: the one before beta. 1.4.0 or 1.4.1
[05:54] <wind> do you know how to automatically connect to a wireless router? and to get rid of the password to access the wireless networks
[05:54] <wind> (not the WEP)
[05:54] <Hawkwind> tk: dpkg -l amarok to find out the version
[05:54] <wind> when i try to open the wireless assistant it asks for a pw
[05:54] <tk> 1.4.1
[05:54] <excitatory> tk: well, right now the only xine that's in the kubuntu reps is 1.1.1.. do you need a later version?
[05:55] <tk> excitatory: the newer one supports FLAC
[05:55] <ironfroggy> excitatory: well the problem was that firefox wasnt keeping up with the scroll events, so after i stopped scrolling, it kept going to catch up. i thought having it scroll further per event would mean it would scroll faster and would keep up with me. but smooth scrolling seems to work perfect.
[05:55] <excitatory> tk: well, technically flac has been supported for a long time.. there's just a flac bug in 1.1.1
[05:55] <tk> ahh
[05:57] <excitatory> wind: um.. honestly i'm not sure.. i don't use wireless.. i find the signal too abrasive for my consciousness and thus have never played around with it.  but i'm sure if you ask around.. the answer will come.  good luck.
[05:57] <wind> anyone know? :)
[05:57] <excitatory> ironfroggy: excellent, i'm glad it worked out..
[05:57] <excitatory> tk: ok..one sec on that.
[05:58] <ironfroggy> thanks for (accidently?) helping
[05:59] <tk> excitatory: ok
[05:59] <CaBlGuY> exit
[05:59] <CaBlGuY> oops..
[05:59] <CaBlGuY> :p
[05:59] <CaBlGuY> lets try that again..
[06:02] <excitatory> tk: well, currently kubuntu does not have 1.1.2 backported yet into dapper..
[06:02] <excitatory> tk: however..
[06:02] <archangel_> how do I find out if there is another adept running?
[06:03] <tk> yes?
[06:03] <gekko`> archangel_: ps ax | grep adept
[06:03] <excitatory> tk: some kind fellow on the forums has patched xine and released it as a deb.. download the deb he has listed as no. 1, sudo dpkg -i <name of deb>, restart amarok, and you should be set.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1252222&postcount=17
[06:03] <wweasel> Guys, I recently switched to Swiftfox and set my default browser to Swiftfox.  I use KMess for MSN, and it still opens all of its external links in Firefox.  Anyone know how I can fix that? (I use Gnome, not KDE, but the folks in #ubuntu said that ppl here might know better cause it's a KDE app)
[06:05] <Bbetto> my joystick only detect 4 botons, but is of 8 botons, what hapend?
[06:06] <archangel_> Gecko: thanks now how do I force them to stop?
[06:06] <excitatory> wweasel: well, the problem is that in kde, you set things like the default browser system wide, and ever k app follows this..  most apps have individual settings to override this.. but it appears kmess does not.. at least from the gui.. i'm checking for some other config.
[06:07] <DFM> wind, when it ask for a pw it means the one you set up initially when you created your account
[06:07] <excitatory> wweasel: i think you should be able to edit something in ~/.kde to force all of your k apps to use swiftfox.
[06:07] <wind> i know
[06:07] <wind> i want it to stop asking me everytime i open it
[06:07] <DFM> and you are saying that it doesn't work?
[06:08] <wind> i just want it to automatically connect without me having to open network assistant and click on the network
[06:08] <wweasel> excitatory: Ah, that makes sense.  Gnome's default browser is set to swiftfox, but KDE apps follow something different...
[06:08] <DFM> You have to connect the first time and then after that it picks it up or at least it does for me
[06:08] <wind> with kubuntu?
[06:08] <wind> around my neighborhood there are about 5-7 different networks
[06:09] <DFM> yes on a thinkpad, an old one at that
[06:09] <DFM> yours should be the strongest
[06:09] <DFM> I have two near me and i always pick up mine with out any trouble
[06:10] <DFM> however when I moved my card to the other slot w/o thinking it prompted me to use lan assistant again
[06:10] <wind> nothing connects until i open network assistant, enter my pw then click on my network
[06:10] <imbrandon_> knetworkmanager
[06:10] <imbrandon_> try that
[06:10] <archangel_> how can I force a program to stop?
[06:10] <Bbetto> where can i find information about joystick in ubuntu?
[06:10] <imbrandon_> Bbetto: what kind of info ?
[06:11] <imbrandon_> archangel_: kill -9 <pid>
[06:11] <Bbetto> instalation, configuration, etc
[06:11] <excitatory> wweasel: i'm still looking for the config file.. i know, for instance, you could install kcontrol and set it there.. but i'm looking for the config file so you don't have to.
[06:11] <archangel_> kill -9 <adept>    ?
[06:12] <imbrandon_> Bbetto: depends on the joystick, 90% of them plugin and they work, you config them on a per appp basis
[06:12] <imbrandon_> archangel_: no find adept pid ( ps ax ) then kill -9 <pid_num>
[06:13] <imbrandon_> or " sudo killall adept "
[06:13] <wweasel> excitatory: I appreciate that alot. If in the end it is too big a hassle, I can just install kcontrol.
[06:14] <excitatory> wweasel: no it's easy.. i'm just having a brain freeze and cannot think of the name
[06:14] <archangel_> imbrandon_:  thanks
[06:14] <imbrandon_> excitatory: what ya looking for ?
[06:15] <basko> imbrandon_: fixed it!
[06:15] <excitatory> imbrandon_: default browser config setting
[06:16] <excitatory> wweasel is a gnome user, but uses kmess, and it's not opening his default browswer.. so i thought he could manually set it in a kde config file somewhere
[06:16] <imbrandon_> excitatory: kmenu --> run "kcontrol" --> choose KDE Components ---> Default Applications
[06:16] <excitatory> imbrandon_ ^^
[06:16] <excitatory> imbrandon_: i told him worst case, kcontrol would work, but i was hoping to avoid having to install that
[06:17] <basko> imbrandon_: go in /var/lib/dpkg/ and remove the entries dealing with the particular program from the files status, status-old, available, and availabe-old... Just remove the whole block...Example my prob was jedit edit. search for it in these files and remove the block of text that describes the package
[06:17] <imbrandon_> when a kde app is installed you can still use kcontrol , its good to install it anyhow to theme his kmess like gtk
[06:17] <basko> imbrandon_: thanks guys for helping me solve this...
[06:17] <wweasel> exciatory: I think it might be one of the files in ~/.kde/share/config
[06:17] <imbrandon_> basko: np
[06:17] <basko> excitatory: thanks man
[06:18] <excitatory> wweasel: well, there you have it ^^.. looks like it would make more sense to install kcontrol, since you could also set kmess to look more like your gnome apps..
[06:18] <excitatory> basko: yea, no prob :D
[06:18] <basko> excitatory: so if anyone has this sort of problem..just let them know of that simple solution :)
[06:18] <excitatory> wweasel: i know.. it's in ~/.kde/share/config *somewhere*
[06:18] <basko> excitatory: l8r guys
[06:18] <basko> l8r guys
[06:18] <imbrandon_> excitatory: that and you have to be totaly out of X to edit things in .kde manualy and have them "stick"
[06:18] <wweasel> exciatory: but there are a few of them there and I don't know which  and where :P
[06:19] <wweasel> imbrandon_: COuldn't I just use a TTY?
[06:19] <imbrandon_> wweasel: you could then next time it was restarted it would reset, it saves on exit
[06:19] <excitatory> wweasel: no, session manager saves settings
[06:19] <imbrandon_> thus its better to use kcontrol
[06:20] <excitatory> yea.. and like imbrandon_ said, you can setup your qt apps theme to look more like your gtk apps
[06:20] <imbrandon_> if you have kmess installed then you have most the kdelibs , kcontol isnt much more
[06:20] <excitatory> wweasel: you can always install it, set it, then remove it when you're done
[06:20] <excitatory> if you feel it's bloating your system
[06:20] <excitatory> (but if you're worried about that, i would remove gnome.. heh heh.. just kidding..;))
[06:21] <imbrandon_> lol
[06:21] <imbrandon_> ok brb afk a while
[06:21] <wweasel> imbrandon_, excitatory: :D no, I'm not worried about it. I'm already installing it. Thanks so much for the help.
[06:21] <imbrandon_> food time
[06:21] <excitatory> imbrandon_: later dude, thanks for the help
[06:21] <excitatory> wweasel: of course!
[06:21] <tk> excitatory: it worked, thanks
[06:22] <waggle7622frack> When I go to K Menu>System Settings>Sharing>File Sharing and click Administrator Mode, type either my password or root password, the settings are greyed out and I can't change anything. Am I missing something?
[06:22] <excitatory> tk: ah excellent.. good to hear.
[06:22] <Bbetto> for kmess i need java?
[06:22] <excitatory> Bbetto: doubtful.. why do you say that?
[06:23] <KaiHanari> how do i globally set a variable? so that if i set it in one terminal, any processes running can read the change i made? export seems to only affect the current terminal...
[06:23] <Bbetto> is only a question
[06:23] <excitatory> Bbetto: no, just a simple qt app
[06:23] <Bbetto> ok
[06:24] <mike___> Help....
[06:24] <excitatory> waggle7622frack: install this, then try: kdenetwork-filesharing
[06:24] <mike___> I just gavemy brother a new flat panel monitor and it's having trouble.
[06:24] <mike___> Kubuntu 6.06
[06:25] <mike___> nforce2
[06:25] <excitatory> mike___: please be more specific..'trouble' means nothing to us
[06:25] <mike___> Text shimmers when there is mouse is moved or hard drive is being accessed.
[06:25] <Hawkwind> mike___: Did he have a monitor on the system already and you simply replaced it ?
[06:25] <mike___> Yes, CRT to LCD.
[06:26] <Hawkwind> mike___: Then you need to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:26] <Hawkwind> mike___: The refresh rates are probably still being used for the CRT and you need to setup xorg for the new monitor
[06:26] <mike___> I'
[06:26] <mike___> ll try it.
[06:26] <excitatory> mike___: but use sudo before that command
[06:26] <waggle7622frack> excitatory i already have the newest version
[06:26] <Hawkwind> mike___: Yeah, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:29] <excitatory> waggle7622frack: install samba smbfs, too i believe
[06:29] <excitatory> sorry
[06:30] <excitatory> phew.. that was an intense round of Q & A
[06:30] <mike___> Oh, good, it actually sees that name on the monitor now.
[06:30] <mike___> I guess it's time to restart X.
[06:31] <mike___> I'll be back with a report.  heh
[06:32] <proudfoot_> RAWR
[06:32] <mike___> Same problem.
[06:33] <mike___> 1280x1024, 60Hz as recommended by the manufacturer.
[06:33] <mike___> nv card, nv driver
[06:34] <excitatory> mike___: have you considered installing the nvidia drivers?
[06:34] <mike___> Tried.
[06:34] <excitatory> might do it for you..
[06:34] <excitatory> mike___: and?
[06:34] <mike___> The xorg.conf that it writes doesn't allow kdm to start.
[06:34] <excitatory> mike___: how did you install them?
[06:35] <mike___> I ran their script.
[06:35] <mike___> ,run files.
[06:35] <mike___> Also tried nvidia-xconfig
[06:35] <mike___> I think the monitor was fine on my computer, but maybe I didn't look close enough.
[06:36] <excitatory> mike___: ack.. no no no.. don't do that.. follow this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:36] <mike___> OK
[06:36] <waggle7622frack> excitatory: that installed smbldap-tools with errors: account_policy_get: tdb_fetch_uint32 failed for field 1-10 But it worked. Thank you!
[06:37] <excitatory> waggle7622frack: odd.. i have no idea wtf that error is or even remotely means..but glad it worked.. :D
[06:37] <clemons> After some startups my sound doesn't work in kubuntu, i've noticed that it always lists my nonfunctional onboard audio first in kmix when the sound isn't working
[06:37] <clemons> (the other one is first when it is)
[06:38] <clemons> Does this mean kubuntu is trying to use my crappy video card?
[06:38] <archangel__> help ........ I booted using a previous kernal version, now I cant get on the net. Whats the deal?
[06:39] <clemons> archangel__: did you compile the kernel or something?
[06:39] <excitatory> archangel__: you're on the net now?  what's the problem?
[06:39] <archangel__> lol, obviously on another pc
[06:39] <excitatory> idk.. wasn't obvious to me.
[06:39] <Hawkwind> archangel__: You need to reinstall the wireless drivers if you're using wireless
[06:39] <clemons> archangel__: if you compiled it, make sure you enabled the TCP/IP + network card driver
[06:39] <archangel__> I have a laptop beside me
[06:39] <excitatory> the way you worded it
[06:40] <archangel__> I did nothing but boot a previous version
[06:40] <excitatory> archangel__: and why are you booting a previous version.. is something wrong with the current version?
[06:41] <mike___> I think maybe I need the glx-legacy package.
[06:41] <excitatory> clemons: is this a sound issue or video card issue, or both?
[06:41] <archangel__> not using wireless at the moment (brothers laptop) I use cable and plug up to the eithernet
[06:41] <clemons> clemons: sound card
[06:41] <clemons> err
[06:41] <clemons> excitatory*
[06:41] <excitatory> ok
[06:41] <archangel__> excitatory: yeah, it wont boot at all normally
[06:41] <clemons> Sometimes my sound works
[06:41] <wweasel> excitatory: I installed kControl, it mostly worked, but there is still something I need to change. I know you're helping someone else now, so I'll wait my turn and explain fully then.
[06:41] <clemons> I'd just like to not have to roll dice to get it to work
[06:42] <excitatory> wweasel: nah, go on..
[06:42] <excitatory> clemons: yea.. i dig..
[06:42] <archangel__> excitatory: bro pulled the plug on it when it was 98% done upgrading the kernal, now it wont boot without a previous version
[06:42] <excitatory> clemons: can you disable the old one in the bios?
[06:42] <clemons> I could try
[06:43] <excitatory> archangel__: what a punk..alright..i better understand your plight now..
[06:43] <excitatory> ok..well
[06:43] <clemons> I guess I will go try that
[06:43] <excitatory> clemons: good luck
[06:43] <wweasel> excitatory: I did kControl > KDE Components > Component Chooser > Web Browser and set it to open in swiftfox. It works perfectly for links that a contact sends me in an IM in KMess, which used to open up Firefox as well. However, if I click on the "you have 1 new message" link in the KMess window it is still opening firefox. not sure why.
[06:44] <archangel__> excitatory: it gets better............... this laptop is the MAIN pc running a kids camp starting TOMORROW
[06:44] <chema> hi
[06:44] <excitatory> archangel__: yea.. no worries.. it's fixable for sure..i'm just thinking of the most painless way to do this
[06:45] <archangel__> cool
[06:45] <warbringer87> Hi
[06:45] <usuario_> the modules load the tulip and dmfe but the correct is dmfe howto change the modules.autoload?
[06:45] <warbringer87> anyone here know what a Disk Boot Failure is?
[06:46] <archangel__> excitatory: I'm a newbie so talk to me like I'm a retard                       lol
[06:46] <excitatory> archangel__: well.. worst-case-scenario you can log in, back up you home, and reinstall..  so yea..would you prefer to log in from a live cd, mount that drive, then chroot in, and reload a new kernel.. or do think we would have better luck fixing the networking on the working kernel
[06:47] <excitatory> is it wireless?
[06:47] <excitatory> wweasel: hrm..interesting..
[06:48] <archangel__> excitatory: I am out of the range of the network, but I can plug in my connection
[06:48] <archangel__> excitatory: this is my bro laptop
[06:49] <excitatory> archangel__: so on th eworking kernel.. does any networking work.. or is it just wireless. or?
[06:49] <draik> anyone know how to undo a recent install...
[06:49] <draik> ?
[06:50] <draik> I just installed a bootsplash and it's not working and it lags my boot time
[06:50] <tk> adept gives you the option to remove install's if you used adept or dkpg i believe
[06:50] <excitatory> wweasel: this may seem silly, but since you've configured the default browser, have you restarted kmess?
[06:50] <draik> tk, the install was done in konsole
[06:50] <archangel__> I cant tell if the wireless works, however I plug in my connection (ethernet) and it wont go to the web
[06:51] <Jucato> hi draik!
[06:51] <wweasel> excitatory: no, actually, it worked with the links so I didn't think of it. silly of me...let me try that.
[06:51] <draik> HEY JUCATO
[06:51] <excitatory> draik: can't you just remove it?
[06:51] <draik> excitatory, that's what I'm trying to find... a simple uninstall... so far no luck
[06:51] <archangel__> excitatory: I cant tell if the wireless works, however I plug in my connection (ethernet) and it wont go to the web
[06:52] <excitatory> draik: well, do you use aptitude or apt-get?  either way, it's sudo aptitude remove <package name>
[06:52] <excitatory> draik: or apt-get if you use that..
[06:52] <Jucato> draik: what's going on?
[06:52] <draik> didn't use any
[06:52] <archangel__> excitatory: adept wont start cause it tells me that an instance is already running (from a fresh restart) so I'm confused about that
[06:53] <excitatory> draik: then what do you use to install packages?
[06:53] <draik> Jucato, I installed a bootsplash that is lagging my boot time and not at all working
[06:53] <draik> it comes with its own ./inst file
[06:53] <draik> sorry, it's './usplash'
[06:53] <excitatory> archangel__: open konsole, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:53] <draik> I got it from kde-look.org
[06:53] <archangel__> k
[06:54] <Jucato> draik: err... KDE-look now has USplash themes? that's new...
[06:54] <draik> let me get you the direct link to my bootsplash
[06:54] <excitatory> draik: go to the page on kde-look where you got it from.. usually they list uninstall instructions.. otherwise look at the docs/readme.. generally teh script will be able to remove what it did.
[06:55] <draik> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=37379
[06:55] <draik> no docs/readme in the download
[06:55] <Jucato> draik: have you tried "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so" to choose the old bootsplash?
[06:55] <draik> how do I know what it installed and where
[06:55] <wweasel> excitatory: Restarting KMess didn't fix it, but I found what did. The e-mail link wasn't actually a URL, it was opening an html file, and I had to set Swiftfox as the default for HTML files too.
[06:56] <Jucato> a USplash theme, that's a first...
[06:56] <draik> I will now, Jucato
[06:56] <Jucato> draik: after that, I think you need to do an extra step to reconfigure initrd. let me check it out
[06:57] <draik> I don't think so, I recall something about it not touching my grub and possibly something about my initrd
[06:57] <archangel__> excitatory: I guess its done... I never got my prompt back
[06:57] <draik> or anything init
[06:57] <draik> Jucato, where did you get that information from?
[06:57] <Jucato> draik: well I'm not really sure. but sometimes, just using update-alternatives doesn't seem to work, so the extra step is needed.
[06:57] <clemons> Thank you, that fixed it, although i'd have still liked to have known how to do it otherwise
[06:57] <draik> oic
[06:58] <Jucato> oh, my bad, not initrd
[06:58] <Jucato> but initramfs...
[06:58] <Jucato> sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)
[06:58] <Jucato> I got it from both the wikis and from ubuntuforums.
[06:58] <Jucato> let me check for the exact post
[06:59] <draik> Thank you Jucato
[06:59] <draik> Thank you excitatory for your help too
[07:00] <nick_> Much love for Kubuntu!
[07:00] <archangel__> excitatory: whats the next step?       Sorry dude. I know your busy.
[07:00] <excitatory> draik: ok..
[07:01] <excitatory> draik: if you reverse-engineer the script.. it should fix it..
[07:01] <excitatory> draik: sudo ln -sf /usr/lib/usplash/kubuntu-splash.so /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-artwork.so && sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)
[07:01] <excitatory> draik: run that
[07:01] <draik> Will do
[07:02] <excitatory> wweasel: ah.. good detective work..
[07:02] <Jucato> draik: this post: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1104903&postcount=6 from this thread: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1104903
[07:03] <excitatory> archangel__: well.. is adept working again?
[07:03] <maltaethiron> !skype
[07:03] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[07:04] <archangel__> excitatory: wow, machine running super slow
[07:05] <draik> BRB fellas.. ReBoot!
[07:05] <Jucato> draik: wishing you luck!
[07:06] <excitatory> archangel__: which one.. the one you're on..or the broken one..idk..sorry..this is rather confusing.
[07:06] <archangel__> excitatory: crap I guess I should connected it to the net first via ethernet, eh?   lol
[07:06] <excitatory> hehe
[07:06] <archangel__> excitatory: sorry, I mean the laptop
[07:07] <excitatory> and the laptop is which machine.. the broken one?  (sorry..multi-tasking has it's shorcummings)
[07:07] <archangel__> excitatory: sorry I am on mine. I am fixing my bro's    all reference goes to his (laptop)
[07:08] <excitatory> archangel__: ok
[07:08] <tk> im having problems installing JRE ... it prompts for an OK to accept the EULA but but I cant click/enter it using Adept....
[07:08] <draik> WOOHOO
[07:08] <Jucato> draik: it worked?
[07:08] <archangel__> excitatory: in order to connect to the web, I have to disconnect my cable and plug it in the laptop
[07:08] <draik> Thank you Jucato and excitatory... I'm full of fixed
[07:08] <mike___> So...which modules should I load by default in xorg?
[07:09] <Jucato> draik: glad to hear that
[07:09] <draik> Jucato, it worked beautifully
[07:09] <draik> no errors, no lags
[07:09] <Jucato> :-D
[07:09] <mike___> I'm thinking I should remove "dri" for the nvidia driver.
[07:10] <draik> |:-)
[07:11] <excitatory> tk: open konsole.. type in this: sudo apt-get install libqt-perl && sudo dpkg-reconfigure debconf
[07:11] <excitatory> tk: then retry your install
[07:11] <excitatory> draik: awesome
[07:12] <draik> oh yes, thank you too excitatory
[07:12] <excitatory> no, you mentioned me..
[07:12] <excitatory> it's all good..it's what community is about
[07:12] <draik> well, at least this community
[07:13] <draik> this community = linux
[07:13] <excitatory> it's more wide-spread than you think
[07:13] <Jucato> hmm...
[07:13] <excitatory> outside of linux even
[07:13] <tk> excitatory: thanks again, installed JRE from cmd line
[07:14] <excitatory> np
[07:14] <draik> My community (neighborhood) doesn't like me much... something about my driving and obscene gestures I give them from the faces/looks they give me
[07:14] <niklaz> I need help with Konversation.
[07:14] <niklaz> Anybody available?
[07:14] <Jucato> hmm... 2 things you shouldn't install using Adept: VMWare Player and Sun Java (sun-java5)
[07:15] <draik> niklaz, what's the problem?
[07:15] <Jucato> niklaz: what is it?
[07:15] <excitatory> archangel__: sorry.. so are you saying you have to leave for a bit.. or that we can't do this because you wont have a net connection?
[07:15] <niklaz> It won't let me connect to Rizon.
[07:15] <mike___> excitatory: I can describe a problem better.
[07:15] <excitatory> Jucato: um.. it's only the best irc app for kde :D
[07:15] <niklaz> I'm not doing anything I didn't do to connect to freenode, so that's why I'm confused.
[07:15] <mike___> excitatory: When I move a window, the screen seems to move to the left a little.
[07:16] <excitatory> niklaz: rizon?
[07:16] <niklaz> Yeah.
[07:16] <Jucato> excitatory: err.. I was asking what niklaz's problem was... @_@
[07:16] <niklaz> irc.rizon.net
[07:16] <niklaz> lol.
[07:16] <tk> excitatory: i dont suppose you can tell me how to get JAR files to get exectured now that JRE Is installed?
[07:16] <archangel__> excitatory: adept now works and loads updates, however I cannot bring up a webpage
[07:16] <draik> niklaz, you have to set that up with your servers
[07:16] <niklaz> I did.
[07:16] <niklaz> One second and I'll tell you what it says.
[07:17] <draik> ok
[07:17] <niklaz> Oh wtf it connected..
[07:17] <niklaz> Nevermind.
[07:17] <niklaz> Slow server/
[07:17] <niklaz> *?
[07:17] <draik> the power of linux
[07:17] <mike___> excitatory: as I continue to move the window, the screen moves back and forth quickly from the original position to the left a little.
[07:17] <excitatory> yea freenode does that too
[07:17] <mike___> SHould I try booting from the CD?
[07:17] <niklaz> Well, thanks anyway guys.. I'm off to leech some files.
[07:17] <mike___> Live mode?
[07:17] <Jucato> freenode has been laggy lately... at least on my side
[07:17] <excitatory> mike___: so is the cable securely plugged into the back of the computer?
[07:18] <[Nige] > hey all
[07:18] <mike___> excitatory: yes.
[07:18] <[Nige] > anyone got a logitech lx700 keyboard working with kubuntu?
[07:18] <mike___> excitatory: Uh, I noticed that when I changed to the nv driver, the resolution was low, but the movement didn't happen.
[07:18] <excitatory> tk: hrm.. not sure.. i rarely use java.. sorry.. perhaps #java can help?
[07:19] <excitatory> mike___: you're on the nvidia driver now?
[07:19] <tk> /j #azureus
[07:19] <tk> woops
[07:19] <mike___> excitatory: yes.
[07:19] <excitatory> mike___: i'd be interested in knowing what the 'vesa' driver would produce.
[07:19] <mike___> excitatory: now I see the motion is more like a wave.
[07:19] <archangel__> excitatory:  will the laptop boot with the right kernal now?
[07:19] <mike___> excitatory: I did try it.  I'll try it again.
[07:20] <niklaz> lol soft..
[07:21] <excitatory> archangel__: if you installed a new kernel, it should..   if there's two versions still on your system when you reboot.. it will give you a choice, and by default, 5 seconds to choose.. just select the higher number if that happens.
[07:22] <archangel__> excitatory: oh, I wasnt sure if the commands you gave me to put in konsole did that or not
[07:22] <excitatory> niklaz: so what's rizon all about.. any good channels?
[07:23] <excitatory> niklaz: a /list spits out a lot of warez and pr0n channels .. heh.
[07:23] <archangel__> excitatory: the wierd thing is that adept works now and even fetches updates, but why cant firefox grab a webpage?
[07:23] <excitatory> archangel__: that is quite odd.
[07:23] <excitatory> archangel__: do this
[07:24] <excitatory> archangel__: in konsole, type, ping -c 3 www.google.com
[07:24] <archangel__> k
[07:24] <excitatory> archangel__: tell me if it appears to find google
[07:25] <excitatory> archangel__: you should see something like this: 64 bytes from 64.233.161.99: icmp_seq=1 ttl=240 time=28.9 ms
[07:25] <archangel__> excitatory: "bad number of packets to trasmit"
[07:26] <excitatory> archangel__: is this is a new install?
[07:26] <archangel__> excitatory: 2 months
[07:27] <tk> excitatory: found it, helps to run the EXEC file instead of the jar file ;)
[07:27] <excitatory> archangel__: well, this does not make sense.. adept could NOT update if your machine cannot even ping google..
[07:27] <excitatory> tk: excellent
[07:28] <niklaz> Does anybody here use the 32-bit firefox?
[07:28] <tk> yup
[07:29] <excitatory> niklaz: yea, most here probably do
[07:29] <archangel__> excitatory: I click on fetch updates and I see the progress bar go from 0% to 100% and the page fill with all kinds of files
[07:29] <excitatory> archangel__: ok, try to install an app.. how about kteatime
[07:29] <excitatory> mmm...tea
[07:30] <niklaz> Eh, well, I installed it and when I switched to kubuntu I lost all my taskbar shortcuts and I can't remember where I put it at.. is it specific from the firefox that's already on ubuntu/kubuntu
[07:30] <niklaz> ?
[07:30] <archangel__> k
[07:31] <niklaz> I guess I can safely assume that's a nooo..
[07:31] <excitatory> niklaz: that's not making sense
[07:31] <niklaz> Lol.
[07:31] <excitatory> kubuntu does not ship with firefox
[07:32] <niklaz> ubuntu does..
[07:32] <excitatory> it's in the repos, so you just have to install the firefox package
[07:32] <niklaz> As far as I know..
[07:32] <excitatory> well yea
[07:32] <excitatory> they're one in the same
[07:32] <niklaz> Well I switched from ubuntu.
[07:32] <excitatory> ok, then it's still installed
[07:32] <niklaz> I can't find my 32-bit firefox nevertheless..
[07:32] <excitatory> unless you did a fresh install
[07:32] <niklaz> nah, I just changed my session..
[07:33] <archangel__> excitatory: after installation, an error popped up......"Could not commit changes"......
[07:33] <excitatory> alt-f2, type in firefox, enter
[07:33] <niklaz> eh, for some reason my f keys aren't working
[07:34] <excitatory> archangel__: i know nothing of adept.. let's do this.. in konsole, type in, sudo aptitude install kteatime
[07:34] <excitatory> archangel__: then tell me what happens
[07:34] <niklaz> typing firefox in terminal just brings up my 64-bit version
[07:34] <archangel__> k
[07:34] <excitatory> niklaz: hrm..
[07:34] <Admiral_Chicago> look for a different run path
[07:35] <excitatory> niklaz: how did you install the 64-bit version..
[07:35] <niklaz> um
[07:35] <excitatory> to be honest.. i didn't know two versions existed in the repos
[07:35] <niklaz> I don't know.
[07:35] <niklaz> Let me put it this way
[07:36] <niklaz> One version works good with flash
[07:36] <niklaz> one doesn't.
[07:36] <tk> niklaz: do you have an F-lock key at all? or a modifier key for "new/save as/undo" etc for your F keys?
[07:36] <niklaz> no.
[07:36] <niklaz> or not that I know of.
[07:36] <niklaz> wait
[07:36] <niklaz> wtf
[07:36] <niklaz> no.
[07:36] <niklaz> -_-
[07:36] <excitatory> angry eyes
[07:36] <niklaz> or wait
[07:36] <archangel__> excitatory: setting up language pack en base
[07:36] <niklaz> I have f2..
[07:36] <niklaz> lol
[07:36] <niklaz> undo..
[07:36] <niklaz> it doesn't work either way.
[07:37] <tk> niklaz: flash is only 32bit at the moment... you have to use chroot i believe they call it to get it working under 64bit linux
[07:38] <tk> niklaz: well the Undo support is software driven (for windows generally) you need to figure out how to turn off the extended F key options to get your normal F keys to work (I have extended F keys and I always have to try F keys twice to make sure I got them disabled)
[07:38] <excitatory> archangel__: and what does, 'sudo apt-get update' do.. (should run through a list of repos, and appear to be updating)
[07:38] <tk> niklaz: mine is simple though.. next to F1 I have F-lock
[07:38] <niklaz> it doesn't help I use a microsoft keyboard, eh? :P
[07:39] <archangel__> excitatory: still going through a list of language packs
[07:39] <excitatory> archangel__: wtf.. from the kteatime install?
[07:39] <tk> niklaz: logitech here :P Dinova Media desktop :)
[07:40] <archangel__> excitatory: yes
[07:40] <excitatory> niklaz: no, the penguins don't like it very much. :)
[07:40] <niklaz> lol.
[07:41] <archangel__> excitatory: going through every language known to man
[07:41] <niklaz> I'm quite new to linux so I've having a hard time with some things.
[07:41] <excitatory> archangel__: copy/paste one of the lines..
[07:42] <tk> niklaz: i used it back int he day... and I'm having hell with using a GUI and package managers
[07:42] <tk> havent touched it for years though
[07:43] <niklaz> linux?
[07:43] <tk> ya
[07:43] <tk> my old computer couldnt run KDE or gnome :P
[07:44] <niklaz> lol
[07:44] <tk> well when I used linux before
[07:44] <niklaz> I wish I could find my working firefox..
[07:44] <warbringer87> here goes my second try with a linux distro
[07:44] <Admiral_Chicago> niklaz, did you try /home/user/.mozilla/ ?
[07:44] <tk> niklaz: have you tried /usr/sbin/mozilla-firefox?
[07:44] <warbringer87> ubuntu was fun, kubuntu seemed more interesting :)
[07:44] <Admiral_Chicago> warbringer87, what was it before?
[07:44] <niklaz> :O
[07:44] <niklaz> give me a sec.
[07:44] <warbringer87> ubuntu
[07:44] <Admiral_Chicago> kubuntu is ubuntu, just with a different desktop manager....
[07:45] <warbringer87> i had it for a bit, but then i heard that dapper was imminent
[07:45] <warbringer87> so i uninstalled it
[07:45] <draik> I'm surprised to find that Kubuntu would run on my old laptop... it came with winme... oh the endless swearing that came after that
[07:45] <Admiral_Chicago> dapper is awesome
[07:45] <tk> err its /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox
[07:45] <warbringer87> i am looking at itfor the first time now
[07:45] <excitatory> warbringer87: yea.. kubuntu has more feautures, the useability is better overall, and is far more customizeable.  also, gnome apps look good in kde.. but kde apps don't look good in gnome.
[07:45] <warbringer87> KDE, i mean
[07:45] <warbringer87> hehe
[07:45] <Admiral_Chicago> excitatory, true dat
[07:46] <warbringer87> first things first, get civII and gimp
[07:46] <excitatory> Admiral_Chicago: no, tru dat
[07:46] <excitatory> ;)
[07:46] <tk> warbringer87: same here, Ubuntu i tried with this laptop first, then Kubuntu.... Ubuntu worked better out of the box for me, but I need KDE for an app I like and it was a PITA to get working under Ubuntu
[07:46] <Admiral_Chicago> fo shizzy
[07:46] <draik> oh geez
[07:46] <excitatory> draik: don't front..
[07:47] <draik> Its funny how snoop doggy dogg started all of this and then he went on love line to complain how he doens't like hearing it... funny guy that snoop
[07:47] <niklaz> I found firefox in a folder but I don't really know how to launch it
[07:47] <niklaz> there is a file "firefox.bin"..
[07:47] <warbringer87> id love to use it online, but lack of a net connection
[07:47] <excitatory> admittedly, kubuntu looks like crap out of the box.. but within minutes, you can have it customized and all perdy..
[07:47] <excitatory> just visually
[07:47] <draik> warbringer87, you're online now :P
[07:47] <Admiral_Chicago> warbringer87, what kind of connectin do you use
[07:47] <warbringer87> im on my laptopo
[07:47] <warbringer87> my desktop is lying next to me
[07:48] <warbringer87> cable, but im on wireless away from the router
[07:48] <excitatory> too blue, and the kicker is too big, and i don't like it at the bottom.. and i prefer a separate taskbar
[07:48] <warbringer87> and the desktop has no card
[07:48] <tk> excitatory: i still have to unplug my bluetooth hub every reboot to get it to work in Kubuntu, in Ubuntu it worked like a charm
[07:48] <tk> excitatory: the funny thing is... it WORKS in grub but once KDE boots... I have to unplug it and replug it
[07:48] <draik> warbringer87, cards are about $10-20, depends where you shop
[07:48] <draik> or is it just plain old?
[07:48] <excitatory> tk: that really should be.. they use the same software...
[07:48] <warbringer87> plain old
[07:48] <draik> how old?
[07:49] <warbringer87> 5 years
[07:49] <warbringer87> has 2 PCI, one for the graphics card
[07:49] <archangel__> excitatory: its done, it ssaid it set up the libgtk2.0-0 and firefox
[07:49] <warbringer87> the other is my only sourceof USB
[07:49] <warbringer87> its a broken down comp that i dont use much
[07:49] <niklaz> tk: the shell script is what launches it correct?
[07:49] <warbringer87> i dont dare install linux on my laptop
[07:49] <excitatory> archangel__: hrm.. try firefox now
[07:50] <tk> niklaz: firefox? you can launch it by going alt+f2 (or the run command from the menu) and doiing /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox
[07:50] <warbringer87> unless I can run maya and photoshop, and 3dsmax on it :P
[07:50] <archangel__> k
[07:50] <warbringer87> and illustrator :P
[07:50] <excitatory> tk: bluetooth is a sketchy technology.. very touch and go from what i understand
[07:50] <niklaz> tk: nevermind :P
[07:50] <tk> excitatory: works like a charm in Ubuntu, only thing I coudlnt do was run encrypted connections with it
[07:51] <excitatory> warbringer87: what kind of laptop?  you can always dual boot, or run another os through virtualization..
[07:52] <warbringer87> the laptop is an HP pavilion, zd8000
[07:52] <excitatory> warbringer87: i will admit.. some laptops, especially some of the centrinos, should really not have linux on them.. too many issues currently..  but don't blame linux.. blame the hardware manufacturers for doing everything but cooperate with the oss community..
[07:52] <warbringer87> 256 mb ati x600, 1 gb of ram, and 100 gb HD. :P
[07:52] <warbringer87> no, this thing is a mobile desktop
[07:52] <draik> here are my laptop specs... enzo
[07:52] <enzo> Sysinfo for 'Matrix': Linux 2.6.15-26-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: PentiumIII(Coppermine) at 597 MHz (1196 bogomips), , RAM: 237/250MB, 82 proc's, 3.11d up
[07:53] <warbringer87> http://www.xfire.com/profile/warbringer87 <- scroll alllll the way down to see specs
[07:53] <warbringer87> thats my laptop
[07:53] <Admiral_Chicago> xfire....
[07:53] <excitatory> enzo: i was using almost the exact same machine up until this past may.. only with far more ram.  you'd be surprised at how well a PIII will pwn linux..
[07:55] <enzo> This is my laptop from 2000
[07:55] <enzo> It came with winme
[07:55] <excitatory> i'm sorry
[07:56] <excitatory> winme was even bad by windows standards
[07:56] <archangel__> excitatory: nothing
[07:56] <tk> well my java program is running but I cant see any of the windows contents...
[07:56] <archangel__> excitatory: this sucks
[07:56] <excitatory> warbringer87: i bet that thing just loves to drink your batteries sweet, sweet, juices
[07:57] <enzo> I was barely able to load winxp on this thing
[07:57] <niklaz> What's a good option to add shortcuts/icons/programs on my taskbar without clunking it up?
[07:57] <tk> winMe... better off with 3.11 for workgroups
[07:57] <enzo> when I did, I only used it for IMs while I was working to buy parts to build my own desktop
[07:57] <enzo> which is my draik desktop
[07:58] <GullyFoyle> liveCD won't work, alternate won't work, i think i have to reinstall breezy and upgrade to dapper. amd 64 is a b****
[07:58] <niklaz> o_o
[07:58] <draik> Sysinfo for 'Lair': Linux 2.6.15-26-686 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)4CPU3.20GHz at 3216 MHz (6431 bogomips), , RAM: 506/3031MB, 103 proc's, 51.31min up
[07:58] <niklaz> gullyfoyle: my works just fine.
[07:58] <Admiral_Chicago> niklaz, you can just hide a panel...
[07:58] <niklaz> o_O
[07:58] <Admiral_Chicago> GullyFoyle, i installed it just fine
[07:58] <niklaz> I still want to be able to see it.
[07:58] <GullyFoyle> niklaz: did you install from liveCD?
[07:58] <niklaz> err, yes.
[07:59] <Admiral_Chicago> yes
[07:59] <Admiral_Chicago> niklaz, nvm i dont think i know what you mean
[07:59] <niklaz> lol.
[07:59] <niklaz> I seem to have confusing questions.
[07:59] <GullyFoyle> mine the mouse jumps around and it locks the screen
[07:59] <niklaz> what video card do you have? o_o
[08:00] <GullyFoyle> nvidia geforce
[08:00] <Admiral_Chicago> ah I had that happen on my computer but I got it to work eventually
[08:00] <warbringer87> excitatory: it does suck the battery
[08:00] <warbringer87> i get an hour at most
[08:00] <warbringer87> im never without my adapter
[08:01] <warbringer87> hmm, i just had a thought
[08:01] <warbringer87> could i connect to the net via my laptop
[08:01] <warbringer87> 's wireless connection?
[08:01] <GullyFoyle> can't find a distro that will run amd64
[08:01] <warbringer87> windows xp pro on the laptop, kubutnu dapper on the desktop
[08:01] <enzo> GullyFoyle, you're not looking hard enough
[08:02] <niklaz> ubuntu wouldn't work on my system till dapper drake
[08:02] <niklaz> now it works great.
[08:02] <enzo> warbringer87, that's how I had it for a while, now they are both Kubuntu Dapper Drake
[08:02] <niklaz> I have amd64bit 3200+
[08:02] <niklaz> Siss760 chipset.. or w/e
[08:02] <GullyFoyle> i've tried rr64 linux, kubuntu, kanotix, etc.. none of them will run no matter what i do
[08:02] <warbringer87> well, i cant exactly replace windows XP now :)
[08:02] <warbringer87> but if its possible, id love to do it
[08:02] <enzo> dual boot
[08:03] <warbringer87> ill think about it
[08:03] <enzo> I dual boot my laptop and desktop, just in case someone needs to use my computer for something and such
[08:03] <enzo> its well worth it
[08:03] <enzo> and if you need help with it, let me know
[08:03] <warbringer87> not tonight, in the middle of finals >8D
[08:04] <enzo> If I'm not here, this channel will be and someone will definitely be here to help
[08:04] <warbringer87> but ill be in here now and again
[08:04] <warbringer87> figured I would plug my site. Anyone here seeking a career in the game industry?
[08:04] <niklaz> I'm 16.
[08:04] <niklaz> so nope.
[08:04] <niklaz> :_
[08:04] <GullyFoyle> i had breezy running fine, then u/g'ed to dapper, fixed the probs, now i need to install from scratch and nothing works right. i guess i have to install breezy again and start over.
[08:04] <draik> enzo is always on because its my laptop, draik is online when I am physically behind the computer (unless I just stepped away)
[08:05] <warbringer87> 16. I miss youth.
[08:05] <niklaz> I'm in a hurry to grow up.
[08:05] <niklaz> =\
[08:05] <excitatory> GullyFoyle: gentoo works very well with amd64.. however, it's a sourc-based distro, so you'll be doing a lot of compiling..but you'll learn a lot.. especially patience!
[08:05] <warbringer87> and im only 19 >_>
[08:05] <niklaz> lol.
[08:05] <warbringer87> things change fast
[08:05] <draik> I'm 23
[08:05] <draik> I think
[08:05] <warbringer87> dont rush it
[08:05] <excitatory> niklaz: yea.. don't rush
[08:05] <excitatory> it always comes soon enough
[08:05] <warbringer87> you have a handful of years to be an idiotic kid
[08:05] <warbringer87> USE em
[08:06] <niklaz> :O
[08:06] <excitatory> i'm 21, and though i'm full of vitality.. i miss being 17
[08:06] <draik> niklaz, Take our word for it, growing up will flash before your eyes before you even know it happened
[08:06] <warbringer87> awkward
[08:06] <GullyFoyle> excitatory: that's why i tried rr64 (sabayon), it's gentoo-derived, but it wouldn't go either
[08:06] <warbringer87> to think I first touched on the internet 6 years ago.
[08:06] <warbringer87> Damn, now I feel old. I certainly feel it.
[08:06] <niklaz> I've been a long time windows user
[08:06] <niklaz> and I'm on linux
[08:07] <niklaz> I feel stupid
[08:07] <niklaz> :)
[08:07] <warbringer87> My first comp was a Maci ntosh performa in 92
[08:07] <niklaz> o.o
[08:07] <niklaz> old stuff.
[08:07] <GullyFoyle> sheesh, i installed my first linux distro 7 years ago
[08:07] <draik> I've been online for about 10 years, this sept
[08:07] <warbringer87> not that old compared to what some of these folks had
[08:07] <excitatory> niklaz: the more you use it, the quicker you'll learn.. you'll be surprised one day, when suddenly everything just makes more sense, and you realise linux is far more intuitive and actually easier to learn in the long run..
[08:07] <warbringer87> i got a classmate going with it as well
[08:08] <warbringer87> and trying to convine my school to using a linux server
[08:08] <tk> warbringer87: my mother insisted on buying one of those Performa 550's :/
[08:08] <warbringer87> SUSE at the very least.
[08:08] <niklaz> it's the commands and installing that give me problems
[08:08] <draik> I wish I could find a linux class as easy as it is to find a win class
[08:08] <warbringer87> PERFORMA!
[08:08] <warbringer87> kids work 2!
[08:08] <warbringer87> writing center
[08:08] <warbringer87> lemmings :(
[08:08] <mike___> excitatory: The monitor is stable at 1280x960, 75Hz.  But it's designed for 1280x1024, 60Hz.  What do you think?  Crap monitor?
[08:08] <warbringer87> spectre challenger >8D
[08:08] <draik> lemmings... LOL
[08:08] <tk> lemmings! yes I loved that :)
[08:08] <warbringer87> i found it online
[08:08] <GullyFoyle> micros*** has held the computing world back a few years
[08:08] <warbringer87> windows only, of course
[08:08] <niklaz> Okay, I'm have more konversation problems x_x
[08:09] <archangel__> excitatory: am I facing an install?
[08:09] <draik> ok niklaz
[08:09] <warbringer87> i recall a while back they announced that the PC's life was running out
[08:09] <draik> but this is the last one :p
[08:09] <Sakireth> I just ate a delicious pie!
[08:09] <Sakireth> And she was called chantal!
[08:09] <warbringer87> mmmm
[08:09] <warbringer87> pi
[08:09] <niklaz> i don't feel good actually
[08:09] <draik> 3.142 something something something...
[08:09] <excitatory> draik: yea..but like.. even when you find one.. it's usually only dealing with RedHat or fedora.. and like linux books is far outdated.  oss produces software far quicker than any other model.. and thus it's just best to learn from the community and experience.  maybe a knowledgeable friend
[08:09] <tk> spectre challenger I forgot about htat one :D
[08:10] <Sakireth> And chantal said she loved me
[08:10] <Sakireth> But i ate her!
[08:10] <warbringer87> Oh sweet christ
[08:10] <warbringer87> i finally find someone else whos played that
[08:10] <warbringer87> some guy did a remake of it
[08:10] <niklaz> anyway, I'm trying to get a fansub and it says I'm in a certain number
[08:10] <niklaz> but it doesn't change
[08:10] <draik> very true excitatory
[08:10] <warbringer87> beta still, but keeps trye to it
[08:10] <niklaz> and I don't know when I'll get the file
[08:10] <excitatory> mike___: um.. 75Hz is far better than 60.. if it works better at a higher rate, you're golden.
[08:10] <Sakireth> warbringer87: wha?
[08:10] <warbringer87> Spectre CHallenger, old mac game
[08:10] <warbringer87> well, a demo
[08:10] <tk> warbringer87: really? got a link to it? I love that 3d wireframed game :)
[08:10] <excitatory> archangel__: well.. where are you at.. you haven't said anything in a while..
[08:10] <warbringer87> i gotta find it
[08:10] <Sakireth> Tonic Trouble!1!11!
[08:11] <warbringer87> oooh
[08:11] <excitatory> yea..:D
[08:11] <warbringer87> remember spin doctor?
[08:11] <niklaz> my problem is more important than spin doctor
[08:11] <niklaz> >_>
[08:11] <archangel__> I had to disconnect my pc to connect the laptop up to the net
[08:11] <Sakireth> Ragnarok Online! =D
[08:11] <tk> spin doctor... sounds familiar yes :)
[08:11] <archangel__> excitatory: all to no avail
[08:11] <tk> thats the flipping tiles game right?
[08:12] <warbringer87> http://www.applematters.com/index.php/forums/viewthread/487/
[08:12] <warbringer87> spin doctor is the spinning lines on dots
[08:12] <mike___> excitatory: the thing is, it won't work at the recommended resolution.  The current resolution makes the screen look slightly too tall.
[08:12] <tk> oh yah!
[08:12] <excitatory> archangel__: well..was there a lot of customization, and/or files you had setup/saved?
[08:12] <excitatory> mike___: oh..didn't catch that.. yea.. 960 is not ideal at all
[08:12] <draik> performas???
[08:13] <Sakireth> If roses are meant to be read
[08:13] <Sakireth> And violets are meant to be blue XD
[08:13] <Sakireth> Lost! Draik is lost in this world, lalalalalaa
[08:13] <archangel__> my bro actually, and this is the laptop that is holding ALL the files and info for kids camp that starts tomorrow
[08:13] <warbringer87> nvrmnd, broken links
[08:13] <mike___> excitatory: the other 1280x? setting won't switch.
[08:13] <ironfroggy> any ideas why i can print from kde apps but not from firefox?
[08:14] <Sakireth> ironfroggy: Firefox doesn't use kprint
[08:14] <Sakireth> ironfroggy: Set up CUPS
[08:14] <excitatory> mike___: well, before you determine if it's crap, i would test it on a second pc.. i still think something is not setup right in your xorg config.. you're using the nvidia drivers and set it up according to that guide i sent you?
[08:14] <warbringer87> http://www.the-underdogs.info/game.php?gameid=1023 <- spectre
[08:14] <excitatory> mike___: what about 1024x768?
[08:14] <Sakireth> KDE is a bit slow at the moment. how come?
[08:15] <excitatory> Sakireth: just suddenly..or?
[08:15] <Sakireth> excitatory: Just suddenly
[08:15] <mike___> excitatory: 1024x768 is fine.  Yes, I've tried just about everything so far.
[08:15] <Sakireth> Everything pops up slowly
[08:15] <excitatory> mike___: what size monitor is it?
[08:15] <Sakireth> Even konsole takes some time to load
[08:15] <ironfroggy> Sakireth: i am using cuips
[08:15] <niklaz> sounds like you need a restart... :O
[08:16] <Sakireth> direct rendering: Yes
[08:16] <mike___> excitatory: 17".  Interesting.  1152x864 is wavy too.
[08:16] <ironfroggy> kprint is using my cups printer
[08:16] <excitatory> Sakireth: again.. just suddenly.. or always?
[08:16] <archangel__> I will build you a new pc, you can make the check out to archangel
[08:16] <excitatory> niklaz: this isn't windows..
[08:16] <Sakireth> excitatory: oh, always.
[08:16] <archangel__> your new pc will be very fast
[08:16] <Sakireth> excitatory: but not since a time ago
[08:16] <excitatory> Sakireth: what are you stats?
[08:16] <draik> niklaz, reboot
[08:16] <Sakireth> excitatory: where to check?
[08:16] <Sakireth> excitatory: top sucks to me..
[08:16] <mike___> excitatory: it seems that the odd setting work and the usual setting do not.
[08:17] <niklaz> draik: lol, I didn't know the terms meant were different like that -_-
[08:17] <excitatory> draik: this isn't windows..restarting is rarely necessary
[08:17] <archangel__> well, going to bed
[08:17] <archangel__> night night
[08:17] <niklaz> bye.
[08:17] <Sakireth> pu(s):  2.7% us,  0.3% sy,  0.0% ni, 96.7% id,  0.0% wa,  0.3% hi,  0.0% si
[08:17] <Sakireth> Mem:    515940k total,   488300k used,    27640k free,    78176k buffers
[08:17] <Sakireth> Swap:  1510068
[08:17] <excitatory> Sakireth: no.. like tell me about your pc.. what kind of hardware do you have.. if you're using konversation, type /sysinfo in the channel
[08:17] <draik> excitatory, I don't recall every rebooting in either, except for those major updates/installs
[08:17] <Sakireth> oh
[08:17] <Sakireth> Sysinfo for 'robin-desktop': Linux 2.6.15-26-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: AMDAthlonXP2600+ at 1919 MHz (3843 bogomips), , RAM: 478/503MB, 95 proc's, 13.20min up
[08:18] <mike___> I hate to do this, but I will have to test it under a WinXP PC./
[08:18] <excitatory> hrm.. you shoudl be flyin
[08:18] <excitatory> mike___: dude, 1024x768 is FINE under a 17"
[08:18] <excitatory> especially if it's for your mom
[08:18] <Sakireth> excitatory: LOL!
[08:18] <draik> LOL
[08:18] <Sakireth> excitatory: Like moms can't read small letters.
[08:19] <excitatory> i don't mean to imply that..
[08:19] <draik> I would say to go with 600 x 400
[08:19] <Sakireth> lol
[08:19] <draik> I like big icons and I cannot lie...
[08:19] <Sakireth> or even better, 80x200
[08:19] <tk> lmao
[08:19] <Sakireth> pda size!!!1!111!!!!
[08:19] <excitatory> but 1280x1024 on a 17" will make anyone squint
[08:19] <mike___> excitatory: It's blurry here.  I will try using the monitor on another PC.  I can boot with the Kubuntu CD.  How could I set the resolution in the boot options?
[08:19] <draik> LOL
[08:19] <Sakireth> Yay, my humor is being appreciated here!
[08:20] <Sakireth> I have entered heaven!
[08:20] <draik> Sakireth, careful with what you say and you'll be fine
[08:20] <Sakireth> Draik: Heh.
[08:20] <draik> don't get kick/banned
[08:20] <excitatory> mike___: i don't remember, but the boot screen has a help option..  i think the livecd will just pick an optimal level
[08:20] <CVirus> http://help.ubuntu.com .. down ?
[08:20] <tk> mike___: if its blurry and its an LCD it means its not being ran at the optimum reso for that monitor (mine at home likes 1280x1024)
[08:20] <mike___> excitatory: the live CD picked HUGE.  heh  Then I couldn't change it.
[08:21] <excitatory> CVirus: looks like it
[08:21] <niklaz> um
[08:21] <CVirus> excitatory: thanks
[08:21] <niklaz> who was the person that said the default theme for kubuntu was crappy?
[08:21] <excitatory> mike___: odd..
[08:21] <excitatory> niklaz: me
[08:21] <niklaz> lol, why is that?
[08:22] <excitatory> niklaz: too blue..not even a sexy blue.. just vibrant, primary blue
[08:22] <excitatory> i also don't like how the kicker is set up
[08:22] <CVirus> most of the distros tend to use crapy themes as the default ones
[08:22] <mike___> All right, off to the other PC.
[08:23] <niklaz> do you have a screenie of your desktop?
[08:23] <niklaz> I'd like to see it
[08:23] <CVirus> I might want to see that too
[08:23] <excitatory> CVirus: i happen to lik e how ubuntu looks out of the box, but beyond that, it's crap.
[08:23] <CVirus> if u dont mind
[08:24] <maltaethiron> i like the default kubuntu look moreso than the default ubuntu look
[08:25] <niklaz> CVirus: why are you named CVirus?
[08:25] <niklaz> :-)
[08:25] <CVirus> niklaz: thats a long story :-p
[08:25] <draik> Cyrus the Virus?
[08:25] <draik> ConAir?
[08:25] <CVirus> nah
[08:25] <niklaz> That was a good movie
[08:25] <draik> that's all I have for thoughts
[08:26] <CVirus> its just a windowz virus
[08:26] <draik> google, here I come
[08:26] <CVirus> i've choosen that nik while i were 11 years old
[08:26] <CVirus> nick*
[08:26] <tk> its motif or GTK better for java UI?
[08:26] <tk> s/its/is
[08:27] <excitatory> you guys want a candid shot, or a fancy hardcore linux hax0r screenshot
[08:27] <excitatory> lol
[08:27] <draik> lol
[08:28] <CVirus> hehehe
[08:28] <pierreth> allo
[08:29] <Anjinha> privet
[08:29] <niklaz> I just want a shot of.. what things look like
[08:29] <pierreth> my color are all mixed in xfce, how can i change this?
[08:29] <Anjinha> pleas, i got a problem
[08:29] <eric__> hey i'm new to linux, i was wondering if there are any games on it that aren't circa 1990 or earlier?
[08:29] <tk> Anjinha: so spit it out, someone will help if they know how :)
[08:29] <Anjinha> my mozilla dun play sound when i play movies and mpgs and others
[08:30] <tk> Anjinha: i had to download w32 codecs and totem for mozilla to play movies for me...
[08:30] <pierreth> i made an install of afterstep and now my colors are wrong
[08:30] <Sakireth> eric__: Tremulous, Wolfenstein Enemy Territory, Frenesia...
[08:30] <Sakireth> eric__: Glest, and much more
[08:30] <draik> LOL
[08:30] <Sakireth> eric__: Go to the ubuntu website, the wiki, and go to the games section
[08:30] <draik> I googled CViurs and got "Hepatitis C Virus" ... LOL
[08:30] <Sakireth> Draik, PM
[08:31] <draik> *CVirus
[08:31] <niklaz> lol
[08:31] <eric__> what are frenesia and glest
[08:31] <eric__> ?
[08:32] <Sakireth> glest is a 3d strategy game, and frenesia is a nice acarde game with amazing graphics
[08:32] <eric__> cool
[08:32] <draik> I got into klickety for a while... but then I couldn't beat my score from the first time I played
[08:32] <Sakireth> haha
[08:33] <Sakireth> T3h Graphics of Teh KDE games R AwFuL
[08:33] <eric__> i'm running ubuntu on my notebook, and i haven't really been able to find much as far as power management goes, when i had windows, i coudl get 4hours no problem, but with this it's like 2 1/2 max
[08:34] <Anjinha> what is totem?
[08:34] <Sakireth> except klickety. THat's BEAUTIFUL
[08:34] <Anjinha> i think i have w32codecs
[08:34] <draik> my laptop's battery is good enough for about 2-3 hours... it's badly dying
[08:34] <eric__> anyone know any ways to tweak it for a centrino notebook?
[08:34] <tk> Anjinha: totem is a movie player that Mozilla will use to play WMV and stuff in webpages
[08:35] <Anjinha> the problem is when i try to see any movie in the firefox, it doesnot play sound.
[08:35] <Anjinha> apt-get install totem?
[08:35] <tk> Anjinha: are you using kubuntu? run adept and type in totem for your filter
[08:37] <Anjinha> yeah, kubuntu
[08:37] <Anjinha> i was a debian sarge user... lol
[08:37] <Anjinha> used to apt-get ....
[08:37] <Anjinha> anyway it is installing
[08:38] <Anjinha> and i think i have to install totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin too ?
[08:38] <tk> not sure if i installed that one or not
[08:38] <tk> let me check
[08:38] <tk> err once Adept is done with gtk
[08:39] <Anjinha> i installed that yakuake, so it is faster open an terminal than anything
[08:39] <niklaz> excitatory: did you take a screenshot yet?
[08:39] <excitatory> draik, CVirus, ok, well, this should give you a decent idea of what my desktop looks like.. it's not terribly customized.. but then again, i don't need all that: http://subfluous.net/images/desktop.jpg  (then, desktop1.jpg, desktop2.jpg, desktop3.jpg for more linux goodness)  it's basically plain kde, with a few tweaks.  it's why i love this de so much.  (channel, plz don't kill my box)
[08:40] <niklaz> lol.
[08:40] <tk> Anjinha: i dont have the FF plugin installed
[08:40] <Jucato> Anjinha: the difference is that when you are opening Konsole, you are really opening/calling the program. Yakuake, on the other hand, is already running in the background, you are only calling it forward/making it visible
[08:40] <CVirus> ROFL @ (channel, plz don't kill my box)
[08:41] <niklaz> how did you resize your top panel like that?
[08:41] <Anjinha> installed totem... let see if works... w8 a sec.
[08:41] <Anjinha> brb
[08:41] <niklaz> you will be missed.
[08:42] <niklaz> excitatory: eh?
[08:42] <Jucato> ehehe! lots of panels! :-D
[08:43] <niklaz> okay
[08:43] <niklaz> question in general..
[08:43] <excitatory> niklaz: very easy..
[08:43] <niklaz> oh you are there >_>
[08:43] <excitatory> yea.. the side panel autohides.. ..it's nice
[08:43] <Jucato> All my panels auto hide :-D
[08:43] <niklaz> well, I'm a nub in kubuntu and don't know how
[08:43] <excitatory> niklaz: right click on the panel, configure.. the options should be intuitive
[08:44] <niklaz> oh, very simple
[08:44] <niklaz> sorry for the stupid question.
[08:44] <excitatory> no worries.. happens to the best of us
[08:44] <Anjinha> ty niklaz :)
[08:44] <pierreth> hello
[08:45] <niklaz> what are you thanking me for?
[08:45] <KiDD420> thank you
[08:45] <Anjinha> you missed me
[08:45] <niklaz> o_o
[08:45] <niklaz> oh
[08:45] <niklaz> lol
[08:45] <Anjinha> lol
[08:45] <niklaz> yeah.
[08:45] <niklaz> :)
[08:45] <Anjinha> no sound yet tk
[08:45] <Anjinha> should i restart firefox?
[08:45] <tk> Anjinha: hmmm I would restart firefox
[08:45] <draik> excitatory, CVirus, niklaz, here is my desktop. Nothing big either, just what I need... http://www.draikunderlord.com/desktop.png
[08:46] <Anjinha> k
[08:46] <niklaz> ahh, widget.. thingies
[08:46] <tk> draik: looks nice ;)
[08:46] <excitatory> nice
[08:47] <tk> whats the CPU display?
[08:47] <Anjinha> omg
[08:47] <Anjinha> worked!!!
[08:47] <draik> thank you tk
[08:47] <CVirus> draik: no panels ?
[08:47] <Anjinha> thank you tk!!!!
[08:47] <Anjinha> a lot!!!
[08:47] <excitatory> CVirus: probably autohiding
[08:47] <draik> Thank you excitatory
[08:47] <CVirus> ah
[08:47] <Jucato> ehehe no panels. just like mine...
[08:47] <tk> Anjinha: your welcome, I just fought the same problem about 12hrs ago for myself ;)
[08:47] <draik> tk, it's superkaramba... SystemCheck
[08:47] <Anjinha> lol
[08:47] <soulrider_> draik: nice desktop, how did you get those widgets things?
[08:47] <Jucato> auto hide is one of the best space saving features :-D
[08:47] <Anjinha> :)
[08:48] <draik> CVirus, I have it all hidden down... comes up when I go over to the bottom left
[08:48] <Jucato> soulrider_: Superkaramba
[08:48] <soulrider_> :O
[08:48] <Jucato> draik: cool wallpaper! :-D
[08:48] <CVirus> draik: yeah
[08:48] <Anjinha> but to use with firefox i had to uninstall the totem and replace by totem-xine and totem-xine-firefox-plugin
[08:48] <KiDD420> I want widgets
[08:48] <draik> soulrider_ 'sudo apt-get superkaramba' and then go to http://www.kde-look.org and get SystemCheck or download it from Superkaramba itself
[08:48] <excitatory> soulrider_: it's more geared toward gnome, but check out gdesklets.. superkaramba is the kde equiv.
[08:49] <draik> Thank you Jucato
[08:49] <draik> Thank you CVirus
[08:49] <pierreth> how can i chnage the colors of the menus?
[08:49] <CVirus> draik: for ?
[08:49] <CVirus> draik: ah .. its CooL :-p
[08:49] <CVirus> serioulsy I love that style
[08:49] <niklaz> excitatory: how do you take the tasks from the main panel? I can't find the option in config
[08:49] <excitatory> yea.. superkaramba has a fetching feature.. much easier than grabbing them and manually installing it.
[08:49] <soulrider_> hey guys, i got over 1 gb of abstract wallpapers
 draik: yeah
[08:49] <Anjinha> bye bye, thanks a lot
[08:50] <soulrider_> if youre interested we can distribute htem among us
[08:50] <Anjinha> cya
[08:50] <draik> I have other colors for that background
[08:50] <soulrider_> i can send them, with bittorrent or somehting
[08:50] <draik> found them online
[08:50] <soulrider_> bye!
[08:50] <draik> can't recall where though
[08:50] <draik> bye soulrider_
[08:50] <KiDD420> Im having serious trouble installing the sun java runtime environment
[08:50] <CVirus> draik: its a KooL one yeah
[08:50] <excitatory> niklaz: you have to add an external taskbar, then right click on the kicker, then remove taskbar.. but don't remove the external taskbar
[08:50] <KiDD420> I cant find it in the universe repository
[08:50] <excitatory> unless you don't want one
[08:50] <draik> They are set to 1280x1024, if anyone wants them I'll tar them to your email
[08:51] <soulrider_> draik: i was saying bye to Anijinha :P
[08:51] <draik> LOL, whoopsie
[08:51] <excitatory> KiDD420: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[08:51] <soulrider_> id like to draink, please :)
[08:51] <soulrider_> lol
[08:51] <excitatory> KiDD420: sorry.. site is down
[08:51] <draik> HAHA... I'm listening to Snow - Informer
[08:51] <draik> Old School
[08:51] <draik> HAHA
[08:51] <excitatory> install this: sun-java5-bin
[08:52] <tk> KiDD420: use JRE as your filter ;)
[08:52] <niklaz> excitatory: alright, thanks
[08:52] <excitatory> KiDD420: then run this: sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-1.5.0-sun
[08:52] <Jucato> err... DO NOT install Sun's Java with Adept (sorry for shouting)
[08:52] <tk> Jucato: yes I was about to get him the cmd line I was given to run it ;)
[08:52] <soulrider_> a superkaramba theme is one of those widgets right?
[08:53] <KiDD420> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ <-- right server?
[08:53] <ironfroggy> so any idea why kprint can print to my cups printer, but firefox can't? it actually shows up in kjobviewer, says it printed, but never does.
[08:53] <excitatory> Jucato: well you can, you just have to do this first: sudo apt-get install libqt-perl && sudo dpkg-reconfigure debconf      then adept will work.
[08:53] <soulrider_> is there any way i can add transparency to ALL windows in KDE?
[08:54] <ironfroggy> set the active and inactive window tranparency level
[08:54] <tk> excitatory: I did that, and it ran my config for JRE as well all in 1 swipe :P
[08:54] <Jucato> but you need to have Compositing enabled in Xorg...
[08:54] <excitatory> KiDD420: yea..why is it not working?
[08:54] <KiDD420> it says it cant find the package sun-java5-bin
[08:54] <tk> soulrider_: what dimensions are those wallpapers?
[08:55] <soulrider_> all sorts of sizes
[08:55] <soulrider_> i think most are 1024
[08:55] <KiDD420> I tried apt-get in console and adept
[08:55] <soulrider_> but i use thema dn they look great on my screen
[08:55] <Jucato> KiDD420: you would need to have the multiverse component added/enabled to your repositories
[08:55] <soulrider_> want a screenshot?
[08:55] <KiDD420> i enabled it, do i have to disable the other ones?
[08:55] <excitatory> KiDD420: do you have the universe and multiverse repository enabled?
[08:55] <excitatory> in /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:55] <tk> soulrider_: how big is a tgz fo them?
[08:56] <Jucato> err... help.ubuntu.com is down?
[08:56] <soulrider_> i got them all in a folder
[08:56] <soulrider_> its over 1 GB i think
[08:56] <excitatory> Jucato: it appears so
[08:56] <Jucato> err.. great!
[08:56] <KiDD420> backports toooo?
[08:56] <excitatory> nah
[08:56] <usuario> hello everybody
[08:56] <tk> soulrider_: hmm let me see if i can get my torrnet client working, I'd love to have em :)
[08:56] <excitatory> lo
[08:56] <Jucato> KiDD420: no, only the one with "deb ------ dapper universe"
[08:56] <KiDD420> well I have them enabled
[08:56] <soulrider_> :)
[08:56] <soulrider_> well it would be ncie if other people got them too
[08:57] <usuario> I'm from Venezuela, who's of here?
[08:57] <Jucato> KiDD420: edit the one with "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe" and add "multiverse" beside "universe"
[08:57] <soulrider_> if im gonna up them other people might as well benefit from them
[08:57] <soulrider_> hola usuario
[08:57] <Sakireth> http://www.booble.com/
[08:57] <usuario> como estas
[08:57] <usuario> de donde eres?
[08:57] <usuario> soulrider
[08:57] <tk> soulrider_: are any of them copyrighted at all? I can provide web space ;)
[08:58] <soulrider_> i really dont know
[08:58] <KiDD420> I just change universe to multiverse or add it on the end?
[08:58] <soulrider_> de Uruguay
[08:58] <Jucato> KiDD420: add it at the end
[08:58] <excitatory> KiDD420: you need to add them all
[08:58] <soulrider_> pero no podemos hablar espaol en este canal
[08:58] <soulrider_> !es
[08:58] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:58] <Jucato> KiDD420: so that it will be "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse"
[08:58] <excitatory> KiDD420: add this to the end: dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[08:59] <KiDD420> THANK YOU SO MUCH
[08:59] <KiDD420> NOW I SEE IT
[08:59] <excitatory> KiDD420: update, then go
[08:59] <niklaz> excitatory: how did you add your home folder to your main panel? it's not an applet
[08:59] <KiDD420> do I want bin or the jre?
[08:59] <KiDD420> jre is part of the bin package right
[08:59] <excitatory> niklaz: sure it is, it's called Quick File Browser
[09:00] <soulrider_> does anyone here use a PPPOE connection ?
[09:00] <niklaz> oh.
[09:00] <niklaz> no wonder.
[09:00] <niklaz> thx.
[09:00] <Jucato> soulrider_: ADSL PPPoE? I do. but I'm no expert...
[09:00] <soulrider_> ok
[09:00] <soulrider_> well i got this problem
[09:00] <excitatory> KiDD420: you want: sun-java5-bin
[09:00] <soulrider_> its really strange
[09:00] <KiDD420> I got it thank you
[09:00] <soulrider_> sometimes its like some of my programs can access the itnernet
[09:00] <soulrider_> and some cant
[09:00] <KiDD420> you helped very much
[09:00] <soulrider_> unles i reconnect
[09:00] <soulrider_> its really weird
[09:01] <KiDD420> change the keep alive to a lower value
[09:01] <usuario> i wanna meet any people from venezuela!
[09:01] <niklaz> why doesn't the "storage media" applet work? strange.
[09:01] <excitatory> yea..honestly.. i wouldn't use any isp that uses PPPOE.. nothing but pure bullshit
[09:01] <usuario> http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[09:01] <Jucato> niklaz: what KDE version are you using?
[09:01] <soulrider_> excitatory: pppoe es the only thing available in my country :P
[09:01] <niklaz> ehh.. not sure
[09:01] <Jucato> excitatory: same situation here
[09:01] <excitatory> niklaz: it does.. but nothing shows up unless you have a disc in the drive, or a usb device plugged in, etc.. stick a cd in..
[09:02] <Jucato> And I also thought was ADSL DHCP was being dropped in favor of PPPoE
[09:02] <KiDD420> soulrider_: change the keep alive value to a lower one
[09:02] <niklaz> oh I see.
[09:02] <excitatory> niklaz: it's a very handy applet
[09:02] <niklaz> I thought it was like.. my hard drive.. o_o
[09:02] <Jucato> :-D
[09:03] <KiDD420> Why can't I see the contents of my 250GB ntfs harddrive but I can see my smaller ones?
[09:03] <niklaz> I wish there was a seperator applet..
[09:03] <Jucato> KiDD420: is the 250GB ntsf drive mounted?
[09:03] <KiDD420> it is
[09:03] <Jucato> hmm...
[09:03] <excitatory> niklaz: nah.. idk.. with linux you really don't go around browsing your hard drive like you do in windows.. you have your home folder for whatever.. and that's it.. the system takes care of the rest..or you interact with it through various programs..  it's kind of why the file system hierarchy doesn't bother me.
[09:04] <excitatory> niklaz: it's quite difficult to get out of the windows mentality, i know.
[09:04] <niklaz> excitatory: lol, yeah.
[09:04] <soulrider> argh
[09:04] <soulrider> my internet did that again
[09:04] <soulrider> any ideas?
[09:04] <KiDD420> jucato: it is mounted and when I click to open it is empty
[09:04] <niklaz> call your isp
[09:04] <niklaz> :)
[09:04] <Jucato> soulrider_: unfortunately, no idea...
[09:04] <soulrider> i onyl ahve problems in linux
[09:05] <niklaz> eh
[09:05] <KiDD420> you have dsl modem?
[09:05] <niklaz> still though, they might have some answers
[09:05] <niklaz> it wasn't a totally sarcastic answer.
[09:05] <soulrider> i dont think so
[09:05] <soulrider> they are useless :P
[09:05] <niklaz> what provider do you have?
[09:05] <excitatory> niklaz: but the second he mentions linux.. they'll immediately use that as an excuse and refuse to help..
[09:05] <soulrider> like.. the only one! :P
[09:05] <soulrider> im not in the US
[09:05] <excitatory> unless it's speakeasy.. they're probably the only ones
[09:05] <KiDD420> he uses anteldata.net.uy
[09:06] <Jack1> i  am getting error messages that klama 0.38 is outdated however it is the most recent version in the reps
[09:06] <soulrider> i do
[09:06] <Jucato> here in the Philippines, all DSL ISP use PPPoE...
[09:06] <Jack1> klamav
[09:06] <Healot> Uruguay
[09:06] <draik> LOL soulrider
[09:06] <soulrider> :(
[09:06] <draik> the only provider, that gotta suck
[09:06] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, isnt that all DSL ISPs?
[09:06] <Healot> most DSL providers use PPPoE
[09:06] <draik> no other options
[09:06] <soulrider> Jucato: DSL = pppoe
[09:06] <Jucato> err.. forgive my grammar... :-D
[09:06] <excitatory> soulrider, not always
[09:07] <Jucato> soulrider_: I was under the impression that DSL could also use DHCP
[09:07] <Healot> some DSL provider provides PPPoA for enterprises
[09:07] <excitatory> but in your case, yes
[09:07] <soulrider> the point is
[09:07] <soulrider> my internet is friggin nuts
[09:07] <Healot> still it's PPPo[AE] 
[09:07] <draik> lol
[09:07] <dragon-1> What is the default password to log in as Root?
[09:07] <niklaz> excitatory: where did you get that awesome wallpaper?
[09:07] <draik> no password
[09:07] <excitatory> dragon-1: don't log in as root
[09:07] <soulrider> and im gonna kill something if linux wont work like ti should
[09:07] <excitatory> use sudo
[09:07] <Healot> dragon-1, "sudo -i"; next enter your password
[09:08] <KiDD420> what the -i
[09:08] <Healot> !root
[09:08] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:08] <draik> soulrider, I have a "hit list" if you do go on a rampage
[09:08] <soulrider> great
[09:08] <soulrider> bah
[09:08] <excitatory> niklaz: i get all of my wallpapers from deviantart
[09:08] <Admiral_Chicago> soulrider, whats the problem
[09:08] <soulrider> dont talk about hit list
[09:08] <Jucato> what's the difference between "sudo -i" and "sudo -s"??
[09:08] <soulrider> earlier today i was reading aobut columbine
[09:08] <soulrider> and i got pissed off
[09:08] <soulrider> about so many things
[09:08] <niklaz> ahh.. deviantart
[09:08] <Healot> Jucato, man sudo; you'll find out
[09:08] <tk> soulrider: would an FTP site suffice for you to share your images with?
[09:08] <KiDD420> !sudo
[09:08] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:09] <ironfroggy> has anyone had a problem where flash movies show the first frame and never play?
[09:09] <excitatory> dragon-1: you should never have to log in as root.  again, if you need root privileges, put sudo before the command.
[09:09] <KiDD420> doesnt help when help is down
[09:09] <soulrider> sure
[09:09] <ironfroggy> although it seems that only some have this problem and others do not. youtube works, for example.
[09:09] <excitatory> ironfroggy: example?
[09:10] <ironfroggy> excitatory: http://www.g4tv.com/attackoftheshow/blog/AOTB/cat/84/The_Loop.html#629272
[09:10] <excitatory> Jucato: open up konq, man:/sudo
[09:10] <Jack1> i  am getting error messages that klamav 0.38 is outdated however it is the most recent version in the reps
[09:10] <ironfroggy> also the front page of the 30 days website on FX
[09:10] <dragon-1> Im trying to copy wallpares from on user directory, to a Root directory so that applicating that point to the root directory can use the wallpapers as backgrounds.  And I keep getting a "Access Denied" message when simply Coppy/Pasting into desired directory.  Or is there a better way to do this?
[09:10] <soulrider> tk unless i can fix this thing, im gonna have lots of trouble uploading them
[09:10] <Jucato> hmm... "The -i (simulate initial login) option runs the shell specified in the passwd(5) entry of the user that the command is being run as"; "The -s (shell) option runs the shell specified by the SHELL environment variable if it is set or the shell as specified in passwd(5)."
[09:10] <soulrider> also because my uplaod sucsk
[09:10] <tk> soulrider: hehe ok
[09:11] <ironfroggy> dragon-1: how are you copying? command line or dragging them in some GUI?
[09:11] <Admiral_Chicago> dragon-1, try doing kdesu konqueror
[09:11] <niklaz> excitatory: would you happen to have any walls of it raining or bad weather? sounds ridiculous but I like those type of nature walls.
[09:11] <Jucato> so they're basically the same?
[09:11] <soulrider> Admiral_Chicago: after a while of being connected to my ADSL service some apps start not getting access to the internet
[09:11] <soulrider> its like some work and soem dont
[09:11] <soulrider> and the nly way to fix it is to reconnect
[09:11] <Healot> Jucato, you can switch to another shell with sudo -s
[09:11] <soulrider> but if unattended some apps like ktorrent are kidna useless afetr a reconnect
[09:12] <dragon-1> Using the GUI.  Isn't that the point of K,N, Unbuntu, is to be an easier transition from Windows environment to Linux?
[09:12] <KiDD420> soulrider: did you try my suggestion
[09:12] <draik> dragon-1, try using the command line as 'sudo cp /path/to/pix /path/to/new/location'
[09:12] <soulrider> sorry i think i didnt read it
[09:12] <KiDD420> soulrider_: change the keep alive value to a lower one
[09:12] <Jucato> Healot: and sudo -i will only switch to root?
[09:12] <excitatory> ironfroggy: that site requires flash 8.. you can thank adobe for not providing linux users with an updated version of flash in well over a year and a half.  don't expect it until 2007 either.. AND THIS KIDS, is why proprietary software is BAD.  oh yea.. and thank the fine people at that website for using a technology that 25% of the world can't use..
[09:12] <soulrider> how do i do that
[09:12] <Jack1> is it possible to integrate a leo dictionary plugin into konqueror or akregator?
[09:13] <Healot> Jucato, switch to the default shell, yes...
[09:13] <LeeJunFan> niklaz: take that dcc - nice pic of storm
[09:13] <KiDD420> well you say you don't have a dsl modem that you connect to via your NIC?
[09:13] <Healot> to switch to another shell let's say /bin/csh (C Shell), use sudo -s
[09:13] <excitatory> Admiral_Chicago: NO! BAD
[09:13] <soulrider> err
[09:13] <soulrider> what i have is an ADSL modem connected to my network card
[09:13] <Admiral_Chicago>   excitatory i run that from command...
[09:13] <niklaz> alright thx.
[09:13] <Jucato> hm... ok... that explains it a bit. thanks! I did try to read the man pages. but their difference wasn't that really clear to me.
[09:13] <KiDD420> ok good
[09:14] <dragon-1> I'll try to figur that one out thanks.
[09:14] <niklaz> for some reason my transfer aren't going in dcc
[09:14] <KiDD420> now see what the default gateway is
[09:14] <excitatory> Admiral_Chicago: never run konq as root.. it will fsck up your profiles
[09:14] <niklaz> why is that?
[09:14] <soulrider> it goes through my router first but the damn thing refuses to connect tot he internet
[09:14] <soulrider> so its like if it wasnt there
[09:14] <KiDD420> should be 192.168.x.x
[09:14] <Admiral_Chicago> profiles....konqueror..doesn't matter to me really
[09:14] <LeeJunFan> niklaz: hrm - I show 84% sent. lemme put it up somewhere.
[09:14] <Admiral_Chicago> i use firefox and have one profile
[09:14] <niklaz> I have 0% progress
[09:14] <soulrider> KiDD420: how do i do that
[09:14] <niklaz> i haven't configured anything in konversation
[09:15] <KiDD420> in your system settings click on network settings
[09:15] <excitatory> Admiral_Chicago: well, then you get the responsibility of supporting this guy when he logs out and back in and can't access konq.
[09:15] <KiDD420> then click the routes tab
[09:15] <soulrider> 0.0.0.0
[09:15] <ironfroggy> excitatory: i didnt ask for a political bashing of the sites i enjoy.
[09:15] <KiDD420> thats your problem
[09:16] <Admiral_Chicago> excitatory, thats true, i was told to run "kdesu command" to run a GUI as root
[09:16] <ironfroggy> and blame it completely on the open source community. if they want it so badly, they should just write it themselves.
[09:16] <soulrider> but as you can see i can connect quite well :P
[09:16] <KiDD420> That I do
[09:16] <excitatory> ironfroggy: well that's fine.. but i meant it any site.. not just the ones you enjoy.
[09:16] <LeeJunFan> niklaz: The ones that start with _MG from here http://home.skycon.net/~junfan/
[09:16] <soulrider> so, what should i do
[09:17] <Jucato> Jack1: you can try following this guide: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=5657.0 except that use this for the Search URL instead:  http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&lang=en&searchLoc=0&cmpType=relaxed&sectHdr=on&spellToler=on&search={@}&relink=on
[09:17] <niklaz> LeeJunFan: thanks.
[09:17] <ironfroggy> is there any route one could take to use netscape plugin DLLs and use them in linux?
[09:17] <excitatory> ironfroggy: umm.. yea..when we can't see the code?  and when flash 8 and especially 9 have very specific, proprietary features that prevent any 3rd party attempt at any kind of real functionality.. sure.. it's that easy.
[09:17] <KiDD420> I would go into admin mode and use the manual settings
[09:17] <niklaz> LeeJunFan: do you know how to configure konversation to make dcc transfer work correctly?
[09:17] <ironfroggy> excitatory: they are documented specifications.
[09:17] <excitatory> ironfroggy: your only option is to run the windows version of firefox through wine.
[09:17] <Wired> Heya
[09:17] <Wired> Got a question
[09:17] <KiDD420> then in the advanced tab you would want to set your gateway
[09:18] <Admiral_Chicago> Wired, ask
[09:18] <excitatory> ironfroggy: ok, then write it.
[09:18] <soulrider> what manual settings
[09:18] <KiDD420> click eth0 and go to configure settings
[09:18] <Wired> I ran into some problems with wine not working on an x64 based system for kubuntu..so really this is a 2 part question
[09:18] <ironfroggy> excitatory: im too busy. and im not one of the ones complaining about it.
[09:18] <Wired> First
[09:18] <Jack1> Jucato shall i past this in settings from akregator in "use this command"?
[09:18] <LeeJunFan> niklaz: it may actually be my routing not working right. I have 2 internet connections and I use some spiffy conntrack iptables to mark packets to determine what route to take. Incoming connections are tricky.
[09:18] <soulrider> configure interface?
[09:18] <KiDD420> then click the manual radio button then advanced settings
[09:18] <KiDD420> yea
[09:18] <soulrider> or in routes
[09:18] <Wired> Is there a Wine-like program that works on 64 bit? and second, if not, does the none-64bit kubuntu work with a 64bit processor?
[09:18] <excitatory> ironfroggy: um..you were the one complaining that you couldn't view one of your favourite websites?
[09:19] <KiDD420> configure interface
[09:19] <Sakireth> how to set your homepage @ konqueror?
[09:19] <ironfroggy> ive decided to take the crazy route of understanding that they might want to stay in bussiness and continue receiving payment for the job they did.
[09:19] <Admiral_Chicago> Wired, to start off with wine & 64 are just starting
[09:19] <soulrider> ok
[09:19] <soulrider> clicked on advanced
[09:19] <soulrider> now?
[09:19] <niklaz> LeeJunFan: well, I was trying to get some other files from a bot on a different channel and no go.. it wouldn't do anything.. and that's why I ask what's up with my dcc transfer
[09:19] <KiDD420> you will have to know your dsl modems ip address and enter it into the gateway
[09:19] <ironfroggy> excitatory: i didnt complain about abobe not open sourcing the flash player. i wasnt sure why they were not playing.
[09:19] <KiDD420> 192.168.1.1 or something similar
[09:19] <soulrider> mind you, just in case, my ISP disocnnects me every 12 hours and gives me a new IP
[09:19] <LeeJunFan> Wired: codeweavers crossover works with 64 (basically it's wine), libs are static compiled so it works fine, and yes you can run 32bit kubuntu on 64 proc, I am.
[09:20] <soulrider> how can i see my modems ip ?
[09:20] <niklaz> is kopete better than gaim?
[09:20] <excitatory> ironfroggy: i have no problem with proprietary software.. but when a major web technology, that so many people use is released.. it's an insult to not release it on all platforms.
[09:20] <draik> is there a way of knowing if wine will work or not? or is it just a hit/miss?
[09:20] <Wired> ooops person answering my question quit mid explanation :p
[09:21] <ironfroggy> excitatory: bussiness is bussiness.
[09:21] <draik> !wine
[09:21] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:21] <Wired> LeeJunFan: great thanks.
[09:21] <LeeJunFan> niklaz: It could be that you need to forward ports on your router or something, I'm really not sure about how dcc makes it's connections between hosts.
[09:22] <KiDD420> how would he find his default gateway
[09:22] <niklaz> I actually had to edit the options when I had MIRC awhile back
[09:22] <excitatory> ironfroggy: i see it as a boundary.. it's just one more thing to divide us, and stunt any kind of communal or socal progress.
[09:22] <soulrider> can i send you a screenshot of what i seE?
[09:22] <soulrider> just in case
[09:22] <[Nige] > how do I add a script to run at boot time?
[09:22] <[Nige] > !scripts
[09:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about scripts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:22] <Jack1> Jucato ah ok it corresponds with your article ok
[09:23] <dragon-1> Okay now how the heck do I register a Nickname?
[09:23] <Wired> thanks for the answers, btw. Theres another Linux "help" channel I was in where they pretty much bitched at you for any question you asked, than referred you to google.
[09:23] <LeeJunFan> KiDD420: ip route | grep default
[09:23] <niklaz> excitatory: you wouldn't happen to know would you?
[09:23] <excitatory> niklaz: what's the question?
[09:23] <soulrider> i get: default dev ppp0  scope link
[09:23] <KiDD420> soulrider: open a console and do an ip route | grep default
[09:24] <niklaz> excitatory: my dcc transfers aren't working and I'm not sure why
[09:24] <LeeJunFan> soulrider: dialup eh? :) just a sec.
[09:24] <soulrider> pppoe
[09:24] <niklaz> excitatory: I remember editing something in MIRC to make them work
[09:24] <niklaz> excitatory: had nothing to do with ports, though
[09:24] <soulrider> sometimes i feel like biting my  LCD screen, dunno why
[09:24] <ironfroggy> excitatory: if it was so important and the free-software model so correct, wouldnt we have simply replaced it by now?
[09:25] <soulrider> but one fo these days im gonna get mad and chew it
[09:25] <LeeJunFan> soulrider: ip route | grep ppp should give you the IP address of the remote side.
[09:25] <soulrider> i swear........
[09:25] <LeeJunFan> niklaz: I just got notification that you cancelled the DCC.
[09:25] <dragon-1> Draik - is this what that command line should look like?  "sudo cp /home/dragon-1/.kde/share/wallpapers/*.*/usr/share/wallpapers"?
[09:25] <niklaz> LeeJunFan: Yeah, it wasn't doing anything
[09:25] <draik> if that's where its from and to, then yes
[09:25] <soulrider> i get:     200.40.19.67 dev ppp0  proto kernel  scope link  src 200.125.28.22
[09:25] <draik> dragon-1 ^^'
[09:25] <dragon-1> Cool, thanks lets see if it works
[09:25] <niklaz> LeeJunFan: I checked the sites and the resolutions are way to low for me to use on a 1024x768 desktop
[09:26] <LeeJunFan> soulrider: 200.40.19.67 is your gateway
[09:26] <Wired> Oh hey new question: If I got a dualcore athlon, what would I have to do inorder to have kubuntu support it?
[09:26] <soulrider> ok, so i put that in the empty field?
[09:26] <KiDD420> the first one
[09:26] <soulrider> what do i do in advanced then?
[09:26] <imbrandon> Wired: nothing, it does already
[09:26] <Wired> Great
[09:27] <Wired> thanks again
[09:27] <KiDD420> set your gateway
[09:27] <LeeJunFan> niklaz: you're right - those are 850x567, I've got one on my 1680x1050 - looks fine.
[09:27] <KiDD420> to 200.40.19.67
[09:27] <KiDD420> i really dont know other than that
[09:27] <excitatory> ironfroggy: number one this is a very complex issue.  number two, oss is unknown to many people.  number three, i'm not one to say if it's a final solution.. but what i am saying is something like flash is a huge accessibility issue... even worse than ajax.
[09:27] <KiDD420> but just try logging into your modem by going to http://200.40.19.67
[09:28] <ironfroggy> excitatory: how is ajax an accessibility issue at all?
[09:28] <soulrider_> ok.........
[09:28] <soulrider_> im back
[09:28] <soulrider_> ifoncfig is showing two connections i had NEVER seen before
[09:28] <excitatory> niklaz: umm..it's probably your router
[09:28] <soulrider_> called vnet
[09:29] <dragon-1> Arg,  This is why I get discoouraged every time I try to use Linux.  Something as simple as sending a copy of Jpeg files from one folder to another should not be so retardedly complicated.
[09:30] <niklaz> excitatory: Didn't have that problem on MIRC.. so how could it be that?
[09:30] <ironfroggy> dragon-1: how is that a linux issue? try copying some files on windows onto the Administrator's desktop.
[09:30] <[Nige] > how do i get a script to run at boot time?
[09:30] <soulrider_> ok, so what will happen when my ISP disconnects me in 12 hours?
[09:30] <soulrider_> will it reconnect and everythign will work........ or not?
[09:30] <KiDD420> i couldnt say
[09:31] <excitatory> ironfroggy: it's not friendly to a wide-range of disabled people.  most websites are not designed with this in mind anyway.. but progress has been made to get around that.  stuff like ajax, though cool, leaves many people with special needs in teh dark on the web.  specialized browsers just cannot parse the info.
[09:31] <KiDD420> but just try logging into your modem by going to http://200.40.19.67
[09:31] <LeeJunFan> niklaz: mirc may support upnp which will open needed ports on your router if it supports upnp - most do. But maybe konversation doesn't.
[09:31] <soulrider_> opera gives me an error
[09:31] <soulrider_> can i like dunno, hack it for better speeds? :P
[09:31] <ironfroggy> excitatory: speciallized browsers arent the way to go for accessability anyway. proper use of web standards can work easily beside ajax and such technologies while still remaining accessible
[09:31] <niklaz> LeeJunFan: I have problems accsessing my modem to foward ports
[09:31] <KiDD420> uhhh
[09:32] <soulrider_> use Opera
[09:32] <KiDD420> no
[09:32] <KiDD420> what kind of modem are you using?
[09:32] <soulrider_> no idea
[09:32] <soulrider_> alcatel onetouch i think
[09:32] <KiDD420> look on it
[09:32] <soulrider_> or is that a cellphone.... :/
[09:33] <soulrider_> hang on, ill go downstairs
[09:33] <excitatory> dragon-1: what ironfroggy said.. if you're a limited user, good luck transferring to another's account.  sure you might say you can do it.. but that's because you're running windows as an admin.. and that's why when you get a piece of malware on widows it pwns your system in 10 minutes flat.
[09:33] <LeeJunFan> 10 mins is being aweful generous.
[09:33] <LeeJunFan> 10ms
[09:33] <dragon-1> I'm not trying to make this out to be a "Linux" Issue.  I'm justsaying, that this is my computer.  I am the administrator.  In a windows environment I would simply log in as the administrator or provide the userid and password when trying to access an administrative feature and I'd be done by now.
[09:34] <excitatory> dragon-1: this is simple.  sudo cp -R /path/to/source /path/to/destination
[09:34] <Jack1> jucato thanks
[09:34] <excitatory> dragon-1: and you do.. it's called sudo.
[09:34] <ironfroggy> to be fair, KDE should prompt for credentials for file operations where you otherwise dont have the proper permissions.
[09:34] <Jack1> Jucato do u have an idea why klamav (latest vs from the reps) keeps nagging that it is outdated?
[09:34] <Jack1> version0.38
[09:34] <dragon-1> Okay I did that and it did nothing.
[09:34] <soulrider_> KiDD420:  it sais Thomson SpeedTouch 510
[09:35] <excitatory> dragon-1: if you're insistent, you CAN log in as root.. but it's truly a bad idea.  if you insist, i can help you set your root password to log in as root.
[09:35] <dragon-1> Is that if I have 30 files to copy from one directory to another I need to do it one at a time?
[09:35] <excitatory> Jack1: are you sure it's not talking about the virus definitions?
[09:35] <Jack1> Jucato do u have an idea how to get a currency converter for konqui?
[09:35] <KiDD420> what version?
[09:35] <soulrider_> didnt say
[09:35] <LeeJunFan> dragon-1: -R is recursive [copies entire directories] 
no it says virus data base is up to date
[09:36] <excitatory> Jack1: and you do realise, antivirus programs, on any os, are superfluous.
[09:36] <dragon-1> Thank you, that was not mentioned by the previous person.  I will try that
[09:36] <soulrider_> hang on, let me check again
[09:37] <Jack1> well <excitatory> how ever it gives me a good feeling and
[09:37] <KiDD420> not only do they use precious resource they give you a false sense of security
[09:37] <KiDD420> i see you like that tho
[09:37] <LeeJunFan> KiDD420: bah, my .45 might too, but I'm not going to stop carrying it.
[09:38] <excitatory> Jack1: seriously.. there has been like 1 virus evar on linux.. you're safe.
[09:38] <LeeJunFan> KiDD420: better to be safe.
[09:38] <Wired> lol
[09:38] <KiDD420> its not useing your precious resources
[09:38] <KiDD420> soulrider:
[09:38] <KiDD420> soulrider: http://192.168.1.254
[09:38] <KiDD420> try that
[09:38] <LeeJunFan> KiDD420: I personally also wouldn't bother with antivir on linux - yet.
[09:39] <LeeJunFan> KiDD420: but it's not to say it's useless.
[09:39] <KiDD420> The default user name is Administrator and the default password is blank.
[09:39] <soulrider_> it didnt sya a version
[09:39] <excitatory> Jack1: recent studies show that even on windows it's not worth the performance hit.. most virus writers test their viruses on the most popular AV apps anyway before releasing
[09:39] <soulrider_> rememeber ht emodem goes through my router first
[09:39] <soulrider_> and i got an error
[09:39] <KiDD420> oh well what kind of router?
[09:39] <excitatory> Jack1: and furthermore, most virus writers run *nix, so they wouldn't try to sink their own ship!
[09:40] <KiDD420> you tried http://192.168.1.254
[09:40] <soulrider_> yea
[09:40] <soulrider_> and mine is a modem not a router
[09:40] <soulrider_> http://www.adslguide.org.uk/hardware/reviews/2002/q4/st510v4.asp
[09:40] <soulrider_> you looking a that?
[09:40] <KiDD420> no
[09:40] <LeeJunFan> Jack1: there just isn't enough justification to run antivirus on linux right now, I've been running linux for 11 yrs and haven't seen one.
[09:40] <soulrider_> ok
[09:41] <KiDD420> did you try that website?
[09:41] <KiDD420> http://192.168.1.254/
[09:41] <soulrider_> i did
[09:41] <soulrider_> and i get an error
[09:41] <KiDD420> ok
[09:41] <KiDD420> and you said you have a router?
[09:42] <Sakireth> my sound is gone!!
[09:42] <Sakireth> sound init failed (SDL_mixer): No available audio device
[09:42] <Sakireth> and i closed everything
[09:42] <soulrider_> yes
[09:42] <Sakireth> even tried skill -9 robin
[09:42] <KiDD420> log into it
[09:42] <soulrider_> i got my modema dn my pc connected in a router
[09:42] <soulrider_> ok
[09:42] <soulrider_> BUT
[09:42] <soulrider_> teh friggin router wont dial
[09:42] <KiDD420> what brand of router?
[09:43] <soulrider_> benq awl 700
[09:43] <soulrider_> a real piece of shit
[09:43] <LeeJunFan> The router didn't hand out that IP he's got, that's straight from a bridged modem.
[09:43] <KiDD420> maby its running as a switch
[09:44] <soulrider_> if you ca make it connect to the internet youll ahve my eternal love
[09:44] <soulrider_> =D
[09:44] <Sakireth> anyone?
thanx sounds  good however it found some phishing mail i believe..but it was very obvious..does this go for the firewall too?
[09:45] <dragon-1> Okay lets say I want to copy all 57 files from folder "A"  /home/wallpapers/A to folder "B"  usr/wallpapers/b should my cammand look like this "sudo cp -R/home/wallpapers/A/*.* usr/wallpapers/b/*.*"?  Or am I misunderstanding something here?
[09:45] <LeeJunFan> Jack1: I suppose it would help for that - my clamav on my mailserver catches a lot of phishing mails.
[09:46] <soulrider_> i dont think you need -R
[09:46] <Sakireth> guys? my sound doesn't work :(
[09:46] <LeeJunFan> dragon-1: sudo cp /home/wallpapers/A/* /usr/wallpapers/b/
[09:46] <Sakireth> if i type alsamixer i get an empty thing
[09:46] <excitatory> phishing is more of a social problem.. it tricks you into submitting your personal info to false destinations, generally.  really no software can prevent that.. maybe a firefox extension or what not..but there's really no replacement for pure common sense.
[09:47] <KiDD420> if you need a program to tell you its a scam
[09:47] <excitatory> soulrider_: yes you do..
[09:47] <excitatory> at least to copy everything.
[09:47] <soulrider_> recursive?
[09:47] <dragon-1> So no "-R" and only "*" not "*.*"?
[09:47] <KiDD420> http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:O0dCYK10wXsJ:service.benq.com.hk/HKUploadFile/Book/WLS_AWL700_Man_EN.pdf+benq+awl+700&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=4&client=firefox-a
[09:48] <KiDD420> read the part about ppoe
[09:48] <LeeJunFan> you don't need the -R unless * is going ot match a directory that you also wan't copied. -R is for copying entire directories, but since you are giving A/* that's every file in A, not the directory A
[09:48] <soulrider_> i did
[09:48] <soulrider_> i configured it
[09:48] <soulrider_> and it doesnt woek
[09:48] <soulrider_> work
[09:48] <soulrider_> hang on
how is the thing with firestarter? i have heard it would start autoatically so i wouldnt need to bother with the graphical interface? and that there wouldnt be any open ports? so i dont need firstarter or what?
[09:48] <dragon-1> Cool I think it's making more sence.
[09:48] <KiDD420> log into the router http://192.168.1.1
[09:49] <soulrider_> i did
[09:49] <LeeJunFan> Jack1: I also don't use a firewall :) I simply don't run services I don't need, and I keep my system up to date.
[09:49] <KiDD420> are there pppoe settings?
[09:50] <LeeJunFan> Jack1: if you keep your system up to date you really don't have much to worry about. Why firewall off ports that nothing is listening on?
[09:50] <KiDD420> Maximum Idle Time  AWL700 provides a timeout mechanism and this means if
[09:50] <KiDD420> there is no any traffic pass through AWL700 during the time that you set up, AWL700
[09:50] <KiDD420> will terminate this link between you and your ISP automatically.
[09:50] <excitatory> Jack1: do you have a router on your network?
[09:50] <KiDD420> set that settings very high
[09:51] <LeeJunFan> well, I gotta sleep. L8r guys.
[09:51] <excitatory> late
[09:51] <KiDD420> I also am due to retire
[09:51] <soulrider_> ok
no
[09:51] <soulrider_> hang on
[09:51] <KiDD420> I'm sorry I could not help you too well soulrider
[09:51] <soulrider_> wait please
[09:52] <soulrider_> i will reboot the modem and see if i can connect
[09:52] <soulrider_> i dont really need to dial right?
[09:52] <soulrider_> thats the point of having it
[09:52] <KiDD420> i think your router should do it automaticly
[09:52] <soulrider_> ok
[09:52] <soulrider_> BRB
[09:52] <soulrider_> dont leave :P
[09:53] <dragon-1> Well, it's still not doing anything.  I'm going to have to hang it up for now.  But thanks for the attempts.  You all have a great Day/Night where ever you are.
[09:54] <soulrider> didnt work
[09:54] <Jack1> the to do list in kontact which program is this and how is that icon called?
[09:54] <excitatory> Jack1: by the way, you can just type in a few letters of anyones nick, then hit tab, and it will auto-complete.  well, i recommend a home router.. it's the best option for protection.  if you don't have one.. chances are you're damn safe.  if you run windows.. HAVE a router.. just do it.  on linux, everything is far more secure and no ports are open by default, and thus you'll be ok.  if you're truly paranoid, install firestarter.  it
[09:54] <excitatory> he way the linux kernel controls network traffic)..  once everything is configured, you only need to run firestarter if you want to make a change.. everything else will just run in the background, deep in the kernel.
[09:55] <Jack1> exc
[09:55] <excitatory> sometimes you have to type a little more
[09:55] <KiDD420> Im sorry but I don't rememer them teaching PPPOE in my CISCO class
[09:56] <excitatory> weird.. my name is not autocompleting
[09:56] <excitatory> i guess i have no soul
[09:56] <KiDD420> excitatory: works for me
[09:56] <excitatory> ok, cool
[09:56] <KiDD420> you cant do your own nick
[09:56] <excitatory> maybe it's just ones own nick
[09:56] <excitatory> yea
[09:56] <Jack1> glo
[09:56] <soulrider> argh
[09:56] <soulrider> crap
[09:56] <soulrider> pisses me off this wont work
[09:56] <KiDD420> soulrider: call your ISP
[09:57] <excitatory> KiDD420: i doubt it's an isp issue
[09:57] <Jack1> excitatory thanx just the autocomplete thing doesnt work here in xchat
[09:57] <Jack1> need some twisting
[09:57] <KiDD420> maby they can help him with his hardware
[09:57] <KiDD420> did your ISP give you the router too?
[09:57] <soulrider> no
[09:57] <soulrider> only modem
[09:57] <KiDD420> do you need the router?
[09:57] <soulrider> ive had it for 2 years now
[09:57] <soulrider> yea
[09:57] <Jack1> exc,
[09:57] <excitatory> Jack1: should work in xchat..  if you're using kubuntu, try konversation.. it's an advanced clone of xchat
[09:57] <soulrider> for my moms laptop.......
[09:58] <KiDD420> reset the router to the default settings and start fresh
[09:58] <excitatory> you have to hit tab
[09:58] <excitatory> before you hit enter
[09:58] <excitatory> idk, maybe that's what you're doing..i'm not sure
[09:58] <Jack1> i just saw u have to manually make it work yes iam in kde..so i should get it ?
[09:58] <soulrider> did that last night
[09:58] <Jack1> exc,
[09:58] <excitatory> Jack1: it's already installed
[09:58] <excitatory> by default
[09:58] <Jack1> exc
[09:58] <Jack1> excit
[09:59] <KiDD420> so it disconnects randomly?
[09:59] <soulrider> the thing is hat its not my router
[09:59] <soulrider> its linux
[09:59] <soulrider> internet works like charm in windows
[10:00] <soulrider> and its like it disconnects some apps randomly
[10:00] <soulrider> some work, some dont
[10:00] <niklaz> Sounds weird.
[10:00] <KiDD420> I don't know
[10:01] <KiDD420> Use linksys products
[10:01] <niklaz> Linksys is good.
[10:01] <soulrider> its my dad who buys tsuff
[10:01] <soulrider> and he just bought me a new monster comp :P
[10:01] <nathanl> hello, I need some help really quick
[10:01] <soulrider> so if i tell him to buya  router he will KILL me
[10:02] <excitatory> soulrider: i want to help.. but i've never dealt with pppoe on linux..
[10:02] <soulrider> lol
[10:02] <Joe1> wpa supplicant question: I edited my /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf file to include my info, and when I run sudo wpa_supplicant -iath0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dmadwifi -w, I get a disconnect event "remove keys."  anyone know how I can repair this one?
[10:02] <soulrider> it sucks.......
[10:02] <soulrider> besides
[10:02] <KiDD420> I also have limited pppoe experiance
[10:02] <nathanl> I cant seem to find EasyUbuntu. I just installed Ubuntu and want to listen to my mp3's
[10:02] <soulrider> pppoeconf doesnt work too wel
[10:02] <niklaz> Did you check the forums for EasyUbuntu?
[10:02] <niklaz> It's there.
[10:02] <nathanl> it times out every time I try to get it
[10:02] <Joe1> and google.
[10:03] <wolfmanz> !easyubuntu
[10:03] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[10:03] <nathanl> the freecontrib.org site is timing out for me
[10:03] <niklaz> People and connection issues. o_o
[10:03] <niklaz> What connection do you have?
[10:03] <soulrider> is https://help.ubuntu.com/community broken ?
[10:03] <nathanl> cox digital cable
[10:03] <niklaz> Eh..
[10:03] <niklaz> Any kind of error given?
[10:04] <excitatory> soulrider: i highly recommend you check out and ask in ubuntuforums.org  also try #ubuntu and #networking .. maybe even ##linux  .. if you don't say you're using ubuntu, maybe even #debian -- also the fine people in #gentoo are great -- and i always check forums.gentoo.org for more general, non-distro specific queries.
[10:04] <nathanl> just timeout
[10:04] <Joe1> LOL!!!   I work for cox digital cable!
[10:04] <soulrider> we dont have cable here lol
[10:04] <KiDD420> i would say #networking would be a good start
[10:04] <soulrider> k
[10:04] <soulrider> i think ill do later
[10:04] <soulrider> its 5 am
[10:04] <KiDD420> good idea
[10:04] <soulrider> and my dad just came to tell me to go to bed lol
[10:04] <excitatory> soulrider: help.ubuntu.com is broken in general
[10:04] <excitatory> idk.. just for the past two hours it seems
[10:04] <soulrider> lol
[10:04] <KiDD420> I too will retire to my bed
[10:05] <soulrider> :)
[10:05] <excitatory> yea.. i have to work in a few hours
[10:05] <KiDD420> thanks for your help and goodnight
[10:05] <excitatory> i should crash
[10:05] <niklaz> bye.
[10:05] <Jack1> exc
[10:05] <soulrider> bye everyone!
[10:05] <Joe1> anyone know anything about wpa-supplicant?
[10:05] <KiDD420> !wpa-supplicant
[10:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wpa-supplicant - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:06] <KiDD420> !wpa
[10:06] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:06] <excitatory> Jack1: you start typing my nick, then hit TAB, it should complete.. then finish your message, then enter.  is that what you're doing?
[10:06] <Joe1> yeah, I checked all faq I could find.
[10:06] <KiDD420> http://hostap.epitest.fi/wpa_supplicant/
[10:06] <Joe1> seriously.
[10:06] <KiDD420> what about it?
[10:07] <excitatory> KiDD420: i'd probably stop recommending anything on help.ubuntu.com until it's back up..
[10:07] <KiDD420> meh
[10:07] <Joe1> I've been there too.  no help.
[10:07] <KiDD420> what are you trying to do with wpa?
[10:07] <excitatory> alright.. later all.
[10:07] <nathanl> does anyone have the easyubuntu tar.bz2?
[10:07] <Joe1>  I edited my /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf file to include my info, and when I run sudo wpa_supplicant -iath0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dmadwifi -w, I get a disconnect event "remove keys."
[10:07] <KiDD420> night excit
[10:08] <Joe1> I just want to get online.
[10:08] <Shan_> can I format a Linux partition as an ntfs partition from linux?
[10:09] <Joe1> shan, have you tried it?
[10:09] <Healot> yes
[10:09] <Shan_> no
[10:09] <KiDD420> wpagui?
[10:09] <Joe1> I used qpartd.
[10:10] <Shan_> i tried the mkfs command
[10:10] <Healot> yes, with parted and fdisk...
[10:10] <Shan_> but its only to make linux fs
[10:10] <Joe1> wpagui is blank.
[10:10] <Shan_> k
[10:10] <Joe1> can't scan, can't see my wireless card.
[10:11] <KiDD420> I cant think right now, Im useless sorry
[10:11] <Joe1> kwifimanager can see my card.  It can even see the network.  It only supports wep.
[10:12] <Shan_> Healot: how?
[10:12] <Joe1> kidd, at least you tried.
[10:12] <niklaz> how do you make ktorrent your default bittorrent client?
[10:12] <KiDD420> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial_s&q=wpa+supplicant+remove+keys&btnG=Search
[10:13] <KiDD420> but im sure you did that already
[10:13] <Joe1> yeppers.
[10:13] <KiDD420> well goodnight then
[10:13] <sword-> brian peppers
[10:13] <KiDD420> sorry
[10:13] <niklaz> Lol
[10:13] <niklaz> All hope it lost
[10:13] <Joe1> sleep is calling.
[10:13] <KiDD420> indubitably
[10:14] <Jack1> hi guys what does it mean: Connection to Server UnderNet lost: name lookup has failed
[10:14] <Jack1> i cannot find help in google
[10:14] <Jack1> thats strange
[10:14] <niklaz> Where do you get this error.....?
[10:15] <Jack1> niklaz: i tried to change from xchat to konbversation now when i try joining undernet channels
[10:15] <niklaz> I just recently switched to Konversation as well..
[10:15] <Jack1> niklaz: it doesnt find undernet for some reason
[10:16] <niklaz> How did you enter it in the server list?
[10:17] <Jack1> port 6667, irc.undernet.net?
[10:17] <niklaz> Let me see if it works for me.
[10:19] <Joe1> oh well.
[10:19] <Joe1> it's hopeless.
[10:19] <niklaz> It's actually "undernet.org".
[10:19] <niklaz> Try that Jack1.
[10:19] <Jack1> niklaz: thank u how did u find out?
[10:19] <ivan`> encourage-women-linux is hilarious
[10:19] <niklaz> I googled "undernet irc".. and "undernet.org" came up.
[10:20] <ivan`> it's designed for the antisocial caveman who's never met a woman before
[10:20] <sf_> i can't get kdevelop working "debconf: apt-extracttemplates failed: Bad file descriptor"
[10:20] <Healot> I am mostly traditional, i think women cannot be geeky, they need to be babes :)
[10:21] <sf_> lol
[10:21] <ivan`> not only traditional but sexist :)
[10:21] <Jack1> niklaz: thanks it works fine
[10:21] <niklaz> Jack1 No probs.
[10:21] <sf_> show what should I do about the kdevelop plugins...
[10:21] <ivan`> Be specific. "You're good at Linux," is meaningless, "You always know which distribution to recommend," is specific and therefore meaningful.
[10:22] <sf_> *so what should...
[10:24] <Healot> hoho
[10:26] <Shan_> i still cant figure out how to do this :/
[10:27] <sf_> Shan_ ?
[10:30] <CVirus> what the heck .. still down ?? https://help.ubuntu.com/community
[10:30] <Healot> is Val Henson married?
[10:30] <Healot> at least to a man?
[10:31] <sf_> where can i report bugs??
[10:32] <sf_> (kdevelop' dep kdevelop-plugins doesn't installl on amd64 )
[10:32] <Healot> !launchpad
[10:32] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[10:33] <ninHer> hi tod@s
[10:34] <Shan_> sf_: I'm trying to figure out how to format an ext3 partition to  an ntfs from linux
[10:35] <sf_> Shan have you tried the kubuntu's install cd (in livecd)
[10:35] <sf_> nevermind....
[10:36] <Lynoure> Shan_: Why do you want to do that? If you are going to be using it with MS Windows, just partition it into NTFS and use MS Win to format it. NTFS writing from Linux side is not yet 100% reliable.
[10:37] <sf_> Lynoure: his gone...
[10:39] <Healot> gone with the wind
[10:40] <sf_> me too
[10:41] <TheCobra> hi
[10:41] <TheCobra> i got a problem
[10:41] <TheCobra> I can't write a file to my memorystick
[10:41] <crimsun> insert the memorystick into the computer, not your nose :)
[10:41] <TheCobra> looooooooooool
[10:42] <TheCobra> that's not the problem
[10:42] <TheCobra> I can read it
[10:42] <TheCobra> but can't write to it:(
[10:42] <crimsun> what does ``mount'' (in a Konsole) tell you about it?
[10:43] <TheCobra> alot:)
[10:43] <TheCobra> /dev/sda3 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[10:43] <TheCobra> proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[10:43] <TheCobra> /sys on /sys type sysfs (rw)
[10:43] <TheCobra> varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw)
[10:43] <TheCobra> varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw)
[10:43] <TheCobra> procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[10:43] <TheCobra> udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw)
[10:43] <TheCobra> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[10:43] <TheCobra> devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[10:43] <TheCobra> lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw)
[10:43] <TheCobra> /dev/sda1 on /media/sda1 type ntfs (rw,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46)
[10:43] <TheCobra> /dev/sda5 on /media/sda5 type ntfs (rw,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46)
[10:43] <TheCobra> /dev/sdb1 on /media/sdb1 type ntfs (rw,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46)
[10:43] <TheCobra> /dev/sdf on /media/sdf type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[10:44] <TheCobra> and it's about the last /dev/sdf on /media/sdf type vfat
[10:44] <TheCobra> that's the usb stick
[10:44] <intelikey> nice flood.   where'd ya get it?
[10:44] <TheCobra> lol
[10:44] <the-erm> ya lol
[10:44] <the-erm> ... what are we laughing at ..
[10:44] <TheCobra> sorry about
[10:45] <TheCobra> crussum asked me what my mount give me
[10:45] <the-erm> oh
[10:46] <TheCobra> /dev/sdf on /media/sdf type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[10:46] <TheCobra> that's the last line
[10:46] <Lynoure> !pastebin
[10:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:46] <TheCobra> so I can't write to there
[10:46] <TheCobra> excuse me
[10:47] <intelikey> TheCobra for the record, when people in here ask about the output of any command, unless they specify pastebin, always assume that they only want the part tertaining to the specific issue.    thank you.
[10:47] <nearfar> Kontact can't be used for Microsoft Exchange right? Evolution is the only solution?
[10:47] <intelikey>  tertaining/p*
[10:47] <Lynoure> Or assume they want it pastebinned. that does not hurt either.
[10:47] <TheCobra> I already know it right now, I told u I'm  sorry,
[10:48] <intelikey> Lynoure true.  but generally a one line cp/paste in here is faster and more productive.
[10:49] <TheCobra> but seems to be that nobody can help me with this:(
[10:49] <intelikey> TheCobra what is "this" i might.
[10:50] <_rince_> mrgn
[10:50] <TheCobra> that I can't write to my usb stick
[10:50] <TheCobra> get acces denied
[10:50] <the-erm> TheCobra: I'm curious ... the main mount point /media/sdf who owns it
[10:50] <nearfar> How to completely remove Kubuntu and all it's packages?
[10:50] <the-erm> what are it's permissinos?
[10:50] <the-erm> Sometimes doing a simple chmod to that folder could fix it chmod 777 /media/sdf
[10:50] <TheCobra> I dunno
[10:51] <the-erm> I'm not 100% sure.
[10:51] <the-erm> and if /media/sdf doesn't exist ... that could be a problem as well. I'm not 100% sure it creates it if it doesn't exist.
[10:51] <intelikey> TheCobra what does  echo $UID   say?
[10:51] <the-erm> Maybe I'm just repeating what other people said.  I did walk into this half way.
[10:52] <TheCobra> 1000
[10:52] <intelikey> k   sec
[10:54] <intelikey> iocharset=utf8 ??? for fat ?    at any raet... what does  ls -ld /media/sdf   say ?
[10:54] <TheCobra> drwx------ 10
[10:54] <intelikey> full line
[10:55] <intelikey> full line please.
[10:55] <the-erm> Well that's enough to tell me you can't do jack with it if you're not part of that group.
[10:55] <the-erm> well .. if you're not that user.
[10:56] <TheCobra> drwx------ 10 kurt kurt 16384 1970-01-01 01:00 /media/sdf
[10:56] <the-erm> weird file date .
[10:57] <intelikey> TheCobra your user name is kurt  ?
[10:57] <TheCobra> yes
[10:57] <TheCobra> that's me
[10:57] <intelikey> k
[10:57] <intelikey> let me see....
[10:57] <the-erm> sdf some sort of card?
[10:58] <the-erm> or is it a camera?
[10:58] <TheCobra> memorystick
[10:58] <intelikey> if you ls /media/sdf    it says permission denied ?
[10:58] <the-erm> ok
[10:58] <TheCobra> no I can read it
[10:58] <the-erm> ok
[10:58] <TheCobra> but not move files to it
[10:58] <the-erm> you just can't write it.
[10:58] <the-erm> ok.
[10:59] <intelikey> just can't write....  hmmm
[10:59] <intelikey> let me look at the mount line one more time...
[10:59] <the-erm>  /dev/sdf on /media/sdf type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[11:00] <the-erm> rw is there.
[11:01] <TheCobra> hmm strange
[11:01] <intelikey> TheCobra i would sujest, (no promise that it will help)  sudo eject /dev/sdf     unplug and replug the stick.
[11:01] <TheCobra> I can mv it thru the command line
[11:02] <intelikey> scratch that then
[11:02] <Jack1> how can i get a clear button to blank the search plugin space in the konqueror?
[11:02] <Jack1> i mean like the one that is used for the url
[11:02] <intelikey> so it's nothing to do with the way it's mounted.
[11:02] <TheCobra> no but ok well I just moved the file instead of copy it :)
[11:03] <TheCobra> so that will do too :)
[11:03] <intelikey> solution  read the docs for the gui app you are trying to use.
[11:03] <TheCobra> I'm going to buy the ubuntu book when it's there (31 august)
[11:03] <TheCobra> that will help me too
[11:03] <TheCobra> I guess
[11:04] <TheCobra> so thanx alot for the help
[11:04] <TheCobra> and sorry again for the flood
[11:04] <intelikey> wouldn't help me... i have a linux book that i only thumbed through one time, found blatant errors in some examples and pitched it on the shelf...
[11:05] <intelikey> TheCobra don't worry about it,  just don't repete it.
[11:05] <TheCobra> I don't :)
[11:05] <TheCobra> I learned my lesson :)
[11:05] <TheCobra> enjoy the day
[11:05] <TheCobra> bye
[11:05] <Jack1> did one test the test version of cold war the linux game?
[11:05] <Jack1> is it good?
[11:06] <intelikey> Jack1 i'm not a gammer.
[11:07] <Tm_T> Jack1: I don't know much about modern games, but I enjoyed when I tested it
[11:07] <intelikey> or a speller
[11:07] <Jack1> well there is a genuine linuxgame for the first time
[11:07] <Tm_T> intelikey: well, first is more good thing than latter one ;)
[11:07] <Jack1> maybe worth testing
[11:07] <wolfmanz> get a ps3 or xbox360
[11:08] <intelikey> Tm_T playing games is better than propper spelling ???     maybe. idk.
[11:09] <intelikey> is there any alternative to 'defoma' ?
[11:15] <intelikey> ok quesiton.  howto make a meta package that depends on nothing, but replaces defoma ?     that would work for me.     anyone?
[11:16] <the-erm> what's deforma?
[11:16] <intelikey> no R in htat.
[11:16] <intelikey> that
[11:16] <intelikey> !info defoma
[11:16] <ubotu> defoma: Debian Font Manager -- automatic font configuration framework. In component main, is optional. Version 0.11.8ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 76 kB, installed size 500 kB
[11:16] <the-erm> defoma
[11:16] <the-erm> ok
[11:16] <the-erm> !info mplayer
[11:16] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB
[11:17] <the-erm> ok
[11:17] <alex_yo> can sombeody help me
[11:17] <alex_yo> ?
[11:17] <intelikey> !info something-not-in-the-repos
[11:17] <ubotu> Package something-not-in-the-repos does not exist in dapper
[11:17] <alex_yo> W: GPG error: http://ubuntu.geole.info dapper Release: Die folgenden Signaturen konnten nicht geprft werden weil der zugehrige ffentliche Schlssel nicht zur Verfgung steht: NO_PUBKEY BC40ED2499419355
[11:17] <aliasfred> 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 <- that IS a version number :)
[11:17] <alex_yo> what to do?
[11:18] <aliasfred> well i dont speak german but you likely need to add a apt gpg key
[11:18] <intelikey> alex_yo dl the gpg key for that repo
[11:18] <alex_yo> how to get this key?
[11:19] <intelikey> for and from
[11:19] <aliasfred> there are no standard way, you have to find it yourself for this specific repo
[11:19] <alex_yo> or remove a line from sources.list
[11:20] <intelikey> normally the repos contain some README or other helpful info
[11:20] <aliasfred> http://ubuntu.geole.info/dists/dapper/Release.gpg
[11:20] <intelikey> alex_yo yeah.  easiest by far.
[11:20] <aliasfred> wget http://www.geole.info/fileadmin/data/misc/geole.info-apt-key.gpg
[11:20] <aliasfred> sudo apt-key add geole.info-apt-key.gpg
[11:21] <aliasfred> from http://www.geole.info/index.php?id=9&l=1
[11:22] <intelikey> wput dummy.key http://www.geole.info/fileadmin/data/misc/geole.info-apt-key.gpg    lol
[11:22] <intelikey> it is yoke
[11:25] <the-erm> Ok I have to gripe ...
[11:25] <the-erm> I just can't take it any more.
[11:25] <the-erm> WHY sudo?
[11:25] <the-erm> Why can't I use su?
[11:25] <the-erm> Who thought this was a good idea?
[11:26] <intelikey> the-erm you can.     sudo passwd      and su -   away
[11:26] <the-erm> I did'
[11:26] <the-erm> What's the default password anyways?
[11:26] <intelikey> the-erm there isn't one.
[11:26] <the-erm> So it's a *root* account with *no* password?
[11:27] <intelikey> yes
[11:27] <aliasfred> no passwd is different from empty passwd
[11:27] <the-erm> so anyone can sit down at your computer type in root, and then enter for the password, and just hack away?
[11:27] <intelikey> correct
[11:27] <intelikey> correct @ aliasfred
[11:27] <intelikey> incorrect @ the-e
[11:28] <the-erm> ok
[11:28] <the-erm> Just making sure.
[11:28] <intelikey> man passwd   notice -l
[11:29] <the-erm> I used to run mandriva, and it's taken a little bit of hacking to get this thing sorta where I like it.
[11:29] <intelikey> the-erm i share your lothing of (default) sudo
[11:29] <the-erm> I like adept alot.
[11:29] <intelikey> i also concure with the 'customize to stand' attatude :)
[11:30] <intelikey> actually the default *buntu sickens me.
[11:30] <intelikey> but hey, it's linux.   if you don't like it change it.
[11:31] <intelikey> so i change it.
[11:31] <Tm_T> intelikey: no, I meant no-gamer is better than no-speller
[11:32] <the-erm> intelikey: how did you get around the ... forwarding of X variables when you su?  Or did you without using su -p
[11:32] <flaccid> i need a bot for my channel to provide help like !help in here
[11:32] <flaccid> what can i use?
[11:32] <the-erm> because that jacks with $HOME and $USER
[11:32] <flaccid> for an ubuntu server
[11:33] <intelikey> the-erm i'm a console kinda guy.      but you use        su -
[11:33] <user_> booyakasha
[11:34] <the-erm> so you don't run any X environment ?
[11:35] <intelikey> about 1% of the time  i run X   some online things.   most i do from console.
[11:35] <the-erm> I'm too lazy.  I run x so I can copy and paste.
[11:36] <intelikey> the-erm you can watch vidios graphicly web browse copy and paste all from console
[11:36] <the-erm> What program do you use to watch videos?
[11:36] <intelikey> vlc
[11:37] <intelikey> vlc-plugin-svgalib - SVGAlib video output plugin for VLC
[11:37] <intelikey> !info vlc
[11:37] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player for all audio and video formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 7620 kB, installed size 18808 kB
[11:37] <intelikey> !links2
[11:37] <ubotu> Browsers available for Linux: Firefox (GTK), Opera (Qt), Konqueror (KDE/Qt), Links (terminal-based). HTTP servers: apache2
[11:37] <intelikey> !info links2
[11:37] <ubotu> links2: Web browser running in both graphics and text mode. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1pre20-2 (dapper), package size 1969 kB, installed size 3184 kB
[11:37] <fdoving> the-erm: i prefer codeine.
[11:38] <the-erm> I remember running a computer without X
[11:38] <the-erm> well no gui.
[11:38] <intelikey> !info gpm
[11:39] <ubotu> gpm: General Purpose Mouse Interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.19.6-21ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 201 kB, installed size 496 kB
 gpm: General Purpose Mouse Interface. In component universe, is
[11:39] <intelikey>           optional. Version 1.19.6-21ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 201 kB,
[11:39] <intelikey>           installed size 496 kB
[11:39] <Healot> oh, gpm was great with mc
[11:39] <intelikey> example of gpm in use ^
[11:40] <intelikey> Used/Free: 14/235
[11:40] <intelikey> ram ^
[11:40] <intelikey> no swap.
[11:41] <intelikey> daz' rite'  i'm running linux in less than 16m of ram
[11:42] <Healot> mc is quite handy when doing file management, without X
[11:42] <intelikey> Healot yes that.
[11:42] <intelikey> true dat
[11:42] <Healot> !info mc
[11:42] <ubotu> mc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 2073 kB, installed size 5952 kB
[11:42] <aliasfred> hehe clear my usual desktop is 250mbyte min :)
[11:42] <Healot> it's in hehe
[11:43] <Lacerta> can i control which applications can be accessed through katapult?
[11:43] <aliasfred> my text editor is 80mbyte of ram min :)
[11:43] <intelikey> mc is just plain handy.   set up the extentions file correctly and it rivals konqueror
[11:43] <aliasfred> and each terminal is 9mbyte :)
[11:44] <Healot> i still use mc sometimes...
[11:44] <the-erm> intelikey: you're going to need to explain to me.  Vlc is an ascii video player?  Or is there something I'm missing.
[11:44] <intelikey> each console is less than 1m  and mc -e  is 1m
[11:45] <intelikey> the-erm the plugin i listed.  that uses console frame buffering
[11:45] <intelikey> vlc-plugin-svgalib - SVGAlib video output plugin for VLC
[11:45] <the-erm> right.
[11:45] <the-erm> so how do you tell vlc to use that plugin?
[11:46] <intelikey> man vlc
[11:46] <the-erm> guess I should read the man
[11:46] <the-erm> ya
[11:46] <the-erm> ok
[11:46] <intelikey> i'd answer but i'd have to do the same or cat a script   i scripted that long ago
[11:47] <intelikey> long ago in computer time that is.
[11:47] <jontydog> morning all how do I find out what processes are running on my pc with Kubuntu?
[11:48] <intelikey> ps/top/xtop/ksysguard   take your pick
[11:49] <jontydog> cheers
[11:49] <intelikey> jontydog or you could go comando and just scan /proc
[11:49] <guy> hi, why are some programs in the Add/Remove Programs are disabled?
[11:49] <intelikey> but that's not for the novice.
[11:50] <intelikey> guy repos not enabled ?
[11:50] <jontydog> I have been locked out of adept it says its already running so I can't add a program
[11:50] <guy> so how can it sees them?
[11:50] <intelikey> jontydog automatic update running ?
[11:50] <jontydog> there is nothing near the clock to say its running
[11:50] <intelikey> guy less /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:50] <intelikey> !repos > guy
[11:51] <guy> thanks, I read.
[11:52] <fdoving> Lacerta: yes, through the catalogs in katapult config. it looks for .desktop files.
[11:52] <alex_yo> thanks aliasfred! now i can download w32codecs and it work without problems
[11:53] <fdoving> Lacerta: alt+space, ctrl+c, configure katapult -> catalogs
[11:54] <Lacerta> fdoving: thx
[11:58] <gan|y|med> hi
[12:00] <guy> weird question, where is the task manager in kubuntu?
[12:00] <intelikey> the who ?
[12:00] <guy> top gui?
[12:01] <intelikey> xtop ksysguard
[12:01] <gan|y|med> system --> system guard (or sth like this)
[12:01] <guy> oh
[12:02] <gan|y|med> can anybody print from openoffice? it used to work with dapper, after an upgrade it didn't anymore. any other printing works
[12:02] <intelikey> guy not system tray you want is it ?
[12:03] <intelikey> so anyone here ever make a meta .deb ?
[12:03] <guy> no.. heh
[12:03] <gan|y|med> guy: what about pressing <ctrl> + <esc>
[12:04] <guy> :o
[12:05] <guy> nice to know:)
[12:06] <fdoving> intelikey: yes. i have.
[12:06] <intelikey> fdoving what all is involved  or where do i need to look for info ?
[12:09] <guy> intelikey: ok, I've added the repository, I can see the packages in Adept, but it's still disabled in Add/Remove
[12:09] <guy> nm:)
[12:10] <intelikey> guy ?
[12:10] <intelikey> ok
[12:10] <guy> it's ok.. thanks
[12:11] <gan|y|med> ciao
[12:11] <intelikey> fdoving can you point me at a good howto ?
[12:12] <taavi> hi
[12:13] <taavi> i have a problem with avi files, they dont play, i've installed all the codecs recommended, still i only hear sound
[12:13] <crossfire> what media player are u using?
[12:14] <taavi> i've tried several
[12:14] <taavi> xine,vlc,totem etc
[12:14] <DHGE> taavi: what does "uname -r" tell you?
[12:15] <taavi> dhge: nothing
[12:15] <crossfire> have you tried this avi on other pcs?
[12:15] <DHGE> then you have no kernel ... strange  wrong channel?
[12:16] <taavi> there are many avi files
[12:16] <crossfire> tavvi uname -r should come up with some numbers
[12:17] <taavi> and they work, i know that, have tried elsewhere too
[12:17] <taavi> ok, i try
[12:17] <crossfire> if not it means it cant recongise your kernal
[12:17] <taavi> it has numbers
[12:17] <taavi> do i paste?
[12:18] <crossfire> okay cool
[12:18] <crossfire> yes please
[12:18] <DHGE> !codecs
[12:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:18] <taavi> 2.6.15-26-686
[12:19] <crossfire> that seems fine
[12:19] <taavi> any idea what the problem is?
[12:20] <crossfire> hmm
[12:20] <crossfire> thinking
[12:20] <crossfire> sure its not a crossformated avi
[12:20] <taavi> no, i've tried many avis
[12:20] <crossfire> hm
[12:21] <crossfire> did u download these avis?
[12:21] <DHGE> taavi: U read the content of the first URL I gave you?
[12:21] <taavi> all the players do the same thing, black screen and sound
[12:21] <taavi> the avis work, i've played them in windows
[12:22] <taavi> dhge: sorry, which one..
[12:22] <crossfire> yea but linux has format disagreements with linux
[12:22] <intelikey> info !fxce4
[12:22] <DHGE> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[12:22] <intelikey> !info fxce4
[12:22] <ubotu> Package fxce4 does not exist in dapper
[12:22] <crossfire> as many formants are restricted
[12:22] <intelikey> hmmm
[12:22] <taavi> yes, i've installed these
[12:23] <taavi> maybe i reinstall....?
[12:23] <crossfire> yea try that
[12:23] <taavi> ok
[12:23] <crossfire> did u compile the file yourself or use package manger?
[12:23] <intelikey> last time i checked vlc plays avi  out of the box.
[12:23] <Tm_T> ubotu: !info xfce4 > intelikey
[12:23] <ubotu> xfce4: Installs Xfce4 core and scripts to set it up. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.3.0-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 4 kB, installed size 64 kB
[12:23] <taavi> package manager
[12:23] <Tm_T> hmm
[12:23] <Tm_T> whops
[12:24] <intelikey> :)
[12:24] <crossfire> hmm have u tried comiling it yoursefl?
[12:24] <taavi> mm...i dont know how..
[12:24] <crossfire> as my package manger seems to not run install all the time and i find it better to compile them myself
[12:24] <guy> yesterday someone helped me with my soundcard, I had two devices. he gave me a command to make one the default device
[12:24] <guy> what was that?
[12:24] <taavi> not too familiar with the command line
[12:24] <guy> I forgot to write it down
[12:25] <crossfire> yea i forgot that command already lol sleeping really wen i did it
[12:25] <intelikey> guy look in your .bash_history file.
[12:25] <taavi> :D
[12:25] <guy> asoundconf set-default-card Live
[12:25] <guy> ;)
[12:25] <guy> thanks.
[12:26] <taavi> crossfire: how do you complete them manually?
[12:26] <intelikey> np
[12:26] <crossfire> konsole
[12:26] <crossfire> or terminal
[12:26] <crossfire> cd
[12:26] <taavi> yes..
[12:26] <crossfire> directory
[12:26] <intelikey> teach a guy to fish....
[12:26] <crossfire> make
[12:26] <crossfire> make install
[12:26] <crossfire> if lucky
[12:26] <taavi> mm
[12:26] <intelikey> tab
[12:26] <taavi> dont follow...
[12:27] <crossfire> not always works tho
[12:27] <taavi> emm..tell me again :P
[12:27] <crossfire> lol
[12:27] <intelikey> taavi you looking for the tab key ?
[12:27] <taavi> no, problems with avis
[12:28] <crossfire> load ur directory of where you media player is eg etc/xine whatever
[12:28] <crossfire> cant remeber were exctally
[12:29] <taavi> ok
[12:29] <intelikey> probably not /etc
[12:29] <DHGE> he should not compile them for a working 2.6.15-26-686 - everything should be there
[12:29] <DHGE> get some older w32codec
[12:29] <taavi> mm...how..?
[12:29] <intelikey> that's system configs
[12:29] <crossfire> yea should be okay on the new kernal but u still get holes in it
[12:30] <sean> Is there a way to make java applications run better/quicker?
[12:30] <crossfire> not sure never tried
[12:30] <DHGE> from http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/ work for me even on amd64
[12:31] <crossfire> im using a dapper i386 on a amd 64 chip no problems at all
[12:31] <crossfire> never do use the 64 version
[12:31] <DHGE> sean: http://www.google.com/search?q=compile+java
[12:31] <intelikey> holy dog turds batman i can't use kde anymore, unless i reinstall the system or find a way to extract .deb's from the live cd....
[12:32] <DHGE> crossfire: I do and play evil avis :-)
[12:32] <crossfire> lol
[12:32] <crossfire> i play avis on i386
[12:32] <crossfire> nicely
[12:33] <crossfire> only problem i had was the gdm interface load up failed once
[12:33] <taavi> lucky you :P
[12:33] <crossfire> hehe not everything works 100%
[12:34] <taavi> yeah, but i want to see those animes..
[12:34] <crossfire> lol anime fan then
[12:35] <ubuntu> i have a partition problem - i have resized the filesystem on a partition to be 65 GB, the partition itself is 80 GB though. now i wanted to resize the partiton with parted (i've booted from a livecd), but i'm getting the following error: "Unable to satisfy all constraints on the partition." -- any other program i could try to resize?
[12:35] <Healot> ubuntu, how many partitions on that disk?
[12:35] <crossfire> try partition magic to make the partion and resolve them then retry
[12:35] <ubuntu> Healot: parted shows 2, numbered 1 and 3
[12:36] <ubuntu> Healot: its a standard mac os x install
[12:36] <ubuntu> i tried parted, it resized the filesystem, but refuses to change the partition
[12:37] <mark___> hi, does anybody know if xgl causes problems with the nvidia tv-out?
[12:37] <crossfire> use partition magic if you download it
[12:37] <crossfire> and restart ur pc and resize them before they boot
[12:37] <Healot> it's a mac :)
[12:38] <Healot> hoho
[12:38] <crossfire> lol i forgot
[12:38] <crossfire> thinking of other distros
[12:39] <Healot> ubuntu: could you list the device names of the disk partitions?
[12:39] <gan|y|med> hello again
[12:39] <Healot> sudo fdisk -l
[12:39] <taavi> how do i move multiple files in terminal?
[12:39] <gan|y|med> where is the speedstep entry in /proc?
[12:39] <intelikey> mac hoho's are uncommon as hen's teeth   and as hard to get a handle on as snake hips.  but as unattractive as chicken lips.
[12:40] <ubuntu> Healot: /dev/hda is the disk, /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda3 should be the partitions
[12:40] <intelikey> 'well aint that as fine as frog hair split four ways'
[12:40] <Healot> ubuntu, can you use fdisk, familiar with it?
[12:40] <ubuntu> Healot: well actually /proc/partitions lists 4 already, which would explain a few things, however, i'm only seeing two in parted. must be something with the mac disklabel
[12:40] <intelikey> taavi vm list of files to  destination/
[12:41] <Leafw> can anyone explain how is the adept tag filter by drag'n'drop supposed to work? Can't drag anything in it from the smart/simple/all tag trees.
[12:41] <taavi> thanks
[12:41] <ubuntu> Healot: yeah, of course. i know i could resize with fdisk, but it's a bit error prone, so i'd like to know what's going on first, before doing anything
[12:41] <gan|y|med> where can i see my actual cpu speed in /porc?
[12:41] <gan|y|med> proc
[12:41] <ubuntu> gan|y|med: /proc/cpuinfo maybe?
[12:41] <intelikey> taavi generally something like mv /location/*.txt /new/location/
[12:42] <intelikey> taavi wild cards are cool wild cards are fun.
[12:42] <DHGE> taavi: RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 320 x 240, ~15 fps, video: Indeo 5.0, audio: uncompressed PCM (mono, 11025 Hz) works NOT for me
[12:42] <gan|y|med> thx
[12:42] <DHGE> RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 656 x 480, 29.97 fps, video: DivX 5, audio: MPEG-1 Layer 3 (stereo, 44100 Hz) works
[12:42] <DHGE> both are avis ...
[12:43] <taavi> mm
[12:43] <taavi> ok
[12:43] <gan|y|med> there must be some entry showing the speedstep info (T-state). do you know where it is?
[12:43] <DHGE> Indeo5: only sound (awful) - no video
[12:43] <hansx> hi
[12:43] <intelikey> taavi also one can   find /base/dir -type f -name <wild cards> -exec mv {} /destination/ \;
[12:43] <taavi> interlikey: mm whats that?
[12:44] <intelikey> that would move recursively found matches     more complex but useful.
[12:44] <taavi> dhge: but no avi works for me, and the do work on windows, which is most distressing
[12:44] <intelikey> man find for more on that
[12:44] <DHGE> taavi: I know - have the same "problem"
[12:45] <schnepfi> hallo, habe ein problem mit meiner externen soundkarte, wer kann mir helfen?
[12:45] <intelikey> find is good find is fine
[12:45] <taavi> interlikey: :P
[12:45] <taavi> interlikey: waht are wild cards?
[12:46] <schnepfi> ???
[12:47] <intelikey> taavi and yes i am lagging about half a minute....     wild cards = ? * .
[12:47] <schnepfi> wer sprichtn hier deutsch bitte
[12:47] <hansx> ich :D
[12:47] <schnepfi> hansx: kannst du mir mal helfen
[12:47] <intelikey> ? matches any single char    * matches everything    . matches ......  i forgot.....
[12:47] <schnepfi> ?
[12:47] <hansx> kenn mich nicht so gut aus, aber was hast fr ein problem?
[12:48] <schnepfi> ich bekomm mein 5.1 system ber meine externe soundkarte nich zum laufen
[12:49] <hansx> puh kann ich dir leider nicht weiterhelfen, hab auch soundprobleme
[12:49] <Tm_T> kids, please use english
[12:49] <Tm_T> !de
[12:49] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:49] <schnepfi> okok
[12:49] <intelikey> taavi man bash       if you like the cli.  man bash is a must.
[12:50] <schnepfi> can somebody help me, i have got a problem with my external soundcard
[12:50] <gan|y|med> is there any way that linux (whatsoever) decreases the lifetime of a laptop battery (this is a SERIOUS question)?
[12:51] <schnepfi>  can somebody help me, i have got a problem with my external soundcard
[12:51] <schnepfi> ??
[12:51] <Tm_T> schnepfi: sorry, I don't know much about external soundcards
[12:52] <schnepfi> ok
[12:52] <Tm_T> what I do know, is that repeating doesn't help you'r issue
[12:52] <schnepfi> ^^
[12:52] <Tm_T> s/you\'r/your/
[12:53] <Tm_T> schnepfi: just have some patience, try to look around from wiki, forums etc
[12:53] <intelikey> gan|y|med it is possable.   it is also possable that linux (whatsoever) increase the life of a battrey      the way you set it up can make all the differance in the world.
[12:54] <schnepfi> i do have dude, but i have tried most of the advices which are mentioned in the wiki forums
[12:54] <intelikey> schnepfi you can alos ask in #ubuntu    more folks in there.
[12:55] <schnepfi> thx
[12:55] <gan|y|med> intelikey: so how to set it up. i just had to buy a ne one!
[12:55] <intelikey> also ##linux is an unofficial linux support channel, which i often find more helpful than the official ones.
[12:56] <Swatgoss_fr> hi guys ?
[12:57] <intelikey> gan|y|med ask specific questions about your hardware, and read the docs on what it can and can't do.   personally i don't know much about laptops.  i do know that linux is very; no extreemly, flexable and powerful.
[12:58] <Swatgoss_fr> someone can give me the french channel (if it exist) ?
[12:58] <gan|y|med> well, tell this to the guy from samsung when you ask for a battery for free :)
[12:59] <intelikey> thus far i have never asked linux to do anything that it couldn't do.   and i have tried some really wierd stuff.   like making a filesystem on half a disk and a partition on the other half....  just one example.
[12:59] <intelikey> !fr
[12:59] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:00] <Swatgoss_fr> thx/merci
[01:00] <rgouveia> I'm trying to install amarok 1.4 on 6.06.1 following the instructions on kubuntu.org, but it I can't install because of dependencies on libs. Any ideas?
[01:01] <gan|y|med> ok, anybody here running unbuntu on a samsung x20?
[01:01] <Swatgoss_fr> running on Fujitsu D7850 ...
[01:02] <DHGE> rgouveia: install the dependencies - if you follow the intructions you get them automagically
[01:02] <DHGE> if not -what are the error messages?
[01:02] <intelikey> eeeek   /who not a good command for large chanels.
[01:03] <DHGE> gan|y|med: http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/samsung.html
[01:03] <gan|y|med> thx
[01:05] <Swatgoss_fr> (probably stupid) how can i make an "updated" install CD for Kubuntu ?
[01:05] <Swatgoss_fr> updated with all new packets
[01:05] <rgouveia> DHGE: no luck ... check the error here: http://rafb.net/paste/results/m1Jo6O23.html
[01:06] <niels> hello everybdoy, someone experiencewith amarok and codecs?
[01:06] <rgouveia> DHGE: this is what I followed: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.php
[01:06] <Swatgoss_fr> bad experience accepted ?
[01:07] <niels> jes
[01:07] <DHGE> rgouveia: apt-get -f install
[01:07] <niels> the problem is it doesn't play my .mp3 songs etc... but it plays my .ogg files ...:
[01:07] <niels> :(
[01:08] <Swatgoss_fr> got the same problem
[01:08] <DHGE> you might need an updated KDE
[01:08] <niels> and how do you do that?
[01:08] <DHGE> !codecs
[01:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:08] <Swatgoss_fr> some videos run, but without sound, or without sound/video and it plays 30x real time ...
[01:09] <rgouveia> DHGE: still the same errors :-|
[01:09] <harmental> is there a way to hide xmms as amarok does?
[01:10] <DHGE> rgouveia: only thing to say - it works for me and from your paste: you are doing the right things ... no clue here
[01:10] <rgouveia> DHGE: right ... thx anyways
[01:10] <DHGE> harmental: ctrl-w (no REAL hiding) - put it on another destop
[01:12] <harmental> DHGE: thanks...but thats not what im looking for....i guess ill stick with amaroK just to keep my desktop clean...
[01:13] <niels> can somebody send me their sources.list file cos i think there is a fault in it
[01:14] <ganymed> somebody told me about the samsung site one moment ago. could you do this again?
[01:15] <lwizardl> hi
[01:15] <ganymed> please
[01:15] <Swatgoss_fr> gan|y|med: http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/samsung.html i think its this page ?
[01:17] <ganymed> thx
[01:21] <DHGE> !sources
[01:21] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:22] <Leafw> are there any cleanup scripts that must be run from time to time to flush tmp resources?
[01:22] <lwizardl> I have a pc running lts 6.06 lts and using kdm/kde for gui and now it's stuck in a login loop after amarok crashed, anyone know how to fix ?
[01:22] <Leafw> my root partition is unexpectedly full
[01:22] <DHGE> Leafw: apt-get autoclean   read man apt-get
[01:23] <Leafw> DHGE: I know about apt-get clean
[01:23] <DHGE> lwizardl: log in as root on console - check the logs in /var/log
[01:23] <Leafw> DHGE: I'm asking about others, perhaps core files, or who knows
[01:23] <tapas> hi
[01:23] <tapas> i wonder: is the libpam shipped with kubuntu 6.06 rtlimits aware?
[01:24] <DHGE> Leafw: nothing else to do manually, logrotate can be tweaked but not worth the bother IMO
[01:25] <Leafw> ok
[01:25] <Leafw> then, is there any ballast that can be thrown away, such as rare fonts, example images, documentation ... ?
[01:28] <DHGE> Leafw: switch the view in konqueror (there is a nice graphical one that shows the spacehogs)
[01:28] <Leafw> true
[01:28] <Leafw> thanks
[01:36] <nagyv> Hello! I would like to set up a static mount point for my scsi removable devices. I am playing with udev for a while, but can not figure out how to do it. The device has two partitions, both are labeled. (David, Goliat)
[01:38] <DHGE> nagyv: I would not do that: mkdir mp in /media  and edit /etc/fstab    udev does all that fine for me ...
[01:41] <usuario> Hi to all
[01:43] <couquinoux> bonjour la France!
[01:44] <Swatgoss_fr> viens sur #kubuntu-fr
[01:44] <yamal> nagyv: you may be able to achieve that using hal (see /usr/share/hal/fdi/) to mount your drive based on the partition label
[01:44] <nagyv> DHGE: it doen't work for me. It mounts the partition under sdb1, althoug it works fine with $muont.
[01:45] <nagyv> yamal: I don't really see what could I do with this :(
[01:48] <yamal> !pastebin
[01:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:49] <yamal> nagyv: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20440
[01:51] <yamal> nagyv: this is from another install that uses /mnt as a prefix for the mountpoint by default... but you get the idea
[01:51] <gebruiker> how do I know if I have :  Pentium-II/Celeron(pre-Coppermine) or Pentium-III/Celeron(Coppermine)/Pentium-III Xeon? From proc/cpuinfo shows  Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.13GHz but no info regarding  Coppermine, I know it's celeron...
[01:52] <nagyv> yamal: and where should I add "this"
[01:52] <tsdgeos> gebruiker: that sounds like a Celeron based on P4 core, that is post-Coppermine
[01:53] <tsdgeos> but not sure as it's much time i'm not uptodate on hardware
[01:53] <Swatgoss_fr> yep 2.13GHz, no PIII reached this freq !
[01:53] <Swatgoss_fr> or with a vapo ...
[01:53] <yamal> nagyv: as an fdi file somewhere under this /usr/share/hal/fdi/? stuff...
[01:54] <yamal> nagyv: haven't used it on ubuntu so far, so the rest is up to you to figure out :)
[01:54] <nagyv> yamal: is there any man page or howto that you could point me to?
[01:57] <vlt> Hello. I'm trying to install the packet sun-java5-plugin but get errors while unpacking the deb (with aptitude). What could I check now?
[01:59] <yamal> nagyv: nothing specific but in general hal docs, any command starting with "hal-"
[02:00] <ubuntu> I am not really ubuntu, I logged in via the Dapper live-cd
[02:00] <vlt> [installing java]  I found it: dkpg-reconfigure debconf and choose Dialog. Nessecary to present Sun's java licence ...
[02:00] <yamal> nagyv: but there must be some howto's out there, just search
[02:02] <gebruiker> how do I know if I have :  Pentium-II/Celeron(pre-Coppermine) or Pentium-III/Celeron(Coppermine)/Pentium-III Xeon? From proc/cpuinfo shows  Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.13GHz but no info regarding  Coppermine, I know it's celeron...
[02:02] <Swatgoss_fr> gebruiker > its a P4 based ...
[02:03] <Swatgoss_fr> no "stock" PIII reached this frequency
[02:03] <nagyv> yamal: thx, I do :)
[02:04] <ubuntu> Does the 5.04 PowerPC version of Ubuntu install disk also give the options of installing Open Source software like the Windows version does?
[02:04] <ubuntu> I want to let a friend have my copy.
[02:06] <Swatgoss_fr> where is libxine-extracodec ? which depot ?
[02:07] <Healot> multiverse section, repos dapper
[02:07] <Healot> !info libxine-extracodecs
[02:07] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[02:08] <Swatgoss_fr> i decommented all depos in my sources.list ... (not sources dep)
[02:08] <Swatgoss_fr> !info swatgoss_fr
[02:08] <ubotu> Package swatgossfr does not exist in dapper
[02:08] <Swatgoss_fr> lol
[02:11] <Swatgoss_fr> dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse, i think it won t work with this one ?
[02:11] <asimon> Swatgoss_fr: No, you need a similar line but with dapper instead of dapper-backports
[02:12] <Jucato> Swatgoss_fr: you have to add the word "multiverse" to the line that has "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe"
[02:12] <Swatgoss_fr> i just made them
[02:12] <Swatgoss_fr> i changed universe with multiverse
[02:12] <Swatgoss_fr> will work ?
[02:12] <Jucato> Swatgoss_fr: no need to change universe to multiverse. just add multiverse so that it will look like "universe multiverse"
[02:12] <Swatgoss_fr> deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse
[02:13] <Jucato> Swatgoss_fr: make it "deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse"
[02:13] <Swatgoss_fr> ok
[02:13] <Healot> without the quotes, and I suggest you put all the sections in on line
[02:13] <Healot> pretty easy to do
[02:14] <Jucato> err.. sorry about that... forgot to mention "without the quotes"
[02:14] <yamal> anybody know a ddccontrol package for ubuntu?
[02:14] <narvik86> yamal: what is ddc?
[02:14] <yamal> it's for controlling lcd monitors without osd/buttons
[02:15] <Swatgoss_fr> is there some user of Right mark clock control tool ?
[02:15] <Swatgoss_fr> i mean the one for mobile CPUs
[02:15] <narvik86> yamal: i have crt so dont know
[02:15] <Swatgoss_fr> (under windows)
[02:15] <asimon> yamal: xresprobe contains ddcprobe, I am not sure if that's what you are looking for
[02:16] <yamal> asimon: what i'm looking for is a package of the program found at http://ddccontrol.sourceforge.net/
[02:16] <Jucato> oh cool! asimon's here. :-D
[02:17] <asimon> yamal: Google came up with a ubuntu package here:  http://download.ubuntu.pl/ddccontrol/
[02:17] <asimon> Jucato: Hi :)
[02:18] <yamal> asimon: your google skills are beyond mine :)
[02:19] <SocketCreep> Does anyone know if the 5.04 PowerPC version of Ubuntu install disk also give the options of installing Open Source software like the Windows version does?
[02:20] <Swatgoss_fr> SocketCreep: why cant u install open source soft on linux ?
[02:20] <intelikey> i'm looking for good non-kde non-gnome specific  apps ?    any sujestions ?
[02:21] <intelikey> Swatgoss_fr linux is opensource
[02:21] <matthias> test
[02:21] <matthias> exit
[02:21] <Jucato> intelikey: what kind of app?
[02:21] <Healot> gnu/linux is open "sauce" :)
[02:21] <asimon> sauce is good.
[02:21] <Swatgoss_fr> intelikey :p
[02:22] <Healot> sauce as in sauce pan, flying saucer
[02:22] <Swatgoss_fr> intelikey i know ... its an questionning answer for SocketCreep
[02:22] <asimon> Healot: oops
[02:22] <Healot> asimon, just making it sa\ounds like "free as in free speech" hehe
[02:23] <intelikey> Jucato all kinds.   editing audio file management you name it.  if you have used it and like it.  i'd like to hear about it.
[02:23] <intelikey> Swatgoss_fr yes retorical.
[02:23] <intelikey> Swatgoss_fr i stand under you.
[02:23] <catholikos> hi all
[02:23] <SocketCreep> I have a friend who has a powerpc. He cannot open ms docs without paying for the software. I want to know if the powerpc 5.04 disk gives the option to install a power pc Open Office
[02:24] <catholikos> i want to copy from cd to desktop
[02:24] <catholikos> but cd owns root
[02:24] <catholikos> ???
[02:24] <Healot> open office can do MS Office files
[02:24] <Swatgoss_fr> i think too
[02:24] <Healot> and it's free and comes with ubuntu
[02:24] <Swatgoss_fr> OOo can open large kind of docs
[02:25] <Healot> especially MS Office documents
[02:25] <Healot> popular free replacement
[02:25] <Jucato> I think he's asking if the 5.04 installer contains the Windows installers for OO.o and other stuff
[02:25] <SocketCreep> Healot, yes, but does the powerpc version let Open Office install to OSX
[02:25] <Jucato> err.. sorry
[02:25] <Healot> not to OSX, to ubuntu it self?
[02:25] <SocketCreep> no, to osx
[02:25] <Healot> no, different binaries
[02:26] <Swatgoss_fr> u mean with the installer on CD
[02:26] <SocketCreep> my friend has a powerpc. I have the power pc unbuntu
[02:26] <Healot> SocketCreep, OO has binaries for Mac OS X though
[02:26] <Healot> iirc....
[02:26] <Jucato> I think it would be best if you just gave your friend a copy of the OpenOffice.org installer for PPC, if he/she couldn't download it himself/herself
[02:27] <SocketCreep> I will give him the powerpc disks.
[02:27] <Healot> http://porting.openoffice.org/mac/ooo-osx_downloads.html >> OO for OS X (X Windows), SocketCreep
[02:27] <SocketCreep> OK, thanks everyone.
[02:28] <hume_> hi....how can I make konqueror show images as a gallery? on some machines this is an option beside viewing as icons and list, but not on this laptop?
[02:28] <asimon> hume_: I think you need to install konq-plugins for the gallery plugin
[02:29] <intelikey> i don't know if this is going to crash at some later point.   hehhe but i have made a symlink  ln -s /bin/true /usr/bin/perl    :)   perl monkeys pissed me off, and i won't have perl anything.     at least until i get over it.... in a year or two.
[02:29] <Jucato> or just preview the image then use the buttons on the toolbars to move to the next/previous images?
[02:30] <hume_> Jucato, preview, how?
[02:30] <asimon> intelikey: Some debian scripts use perl.
[02:30] <intelikey> asimon not on this system.
[02:30] <intelikey> :)
[02:31] <asimon> intelikey: hehe
[02:31] <Jucato> hume_: try right-clicking on the image and select Preview in ...
[02:31] <torz> question regarding linux sort, I see in the manual that by doing "sort -m file1 file2 > output" it can merge two sets of sorted files. I'd really like to use this program but my files contain triples and are sorted by the first token. How can I tell sort to merge based on those values?
[02:32] <hume_> Jucato, ok, got that one
[02:32] <Jucato> hume_: is that what you were looking for?
[02:32] <intelikey> still looking for non-kde/gnome specific apps that i might like     anyone have favorites they would like to mention ?
[02:32] <Jucato> hm.... intelikey, could you narrow the question down? :-D
[02:33] <intelikey> like xterm aterm eterm   gentoo <other filemanagers>   xedit abiword     you name it.
[02:33] <intelikey> just as long as it doesn't depend on gnome or kde
[02:33] <Jucato> errr.. abiword is GTK+ based
[02:34] <Jucato> it's part of GNOME Office iirc
[02:34] <intelikey> you get the idea.    and gtk != kde
[02:34] <intelikey> gnome ^
[02:35] <Jucato> yeah but GNOME (and Xfce) uses GTK, so GNOME and GTK apps basically use the same libraries...
[02:35] <sorush20> anyone here familiar with using checkinstall , if so why is it that it will not detect the /doc folder of my installation ?
[02:36] <Jucato> oh well... some non-kde/non-GNOME (but GTK) apps I know: Xara LX, Inkscape, Audacity, XMMS
[02:36] <asimon> hume_: An other nice way for browsing picture is gwenview, it's an image viewer/browser and installed by default.
[02:36] <intelikey> Jucato i'm not against using gtk or qt  just don't want the standard kde/gnome apps.      see ?
[02:36] <hume_> asimon, got the konq-plugins installed, but no gallery function in konqueror
[02:37] <asimon> I define an Gnome application as an application which links against a library containing 'gnome' in it's name ;-)
[02:37] <Jucato> intelikey: yep. Just be aware that not everything in Ubuntu is actually the standard GNOME apps. For example, the standard GNOME web browser is actually Epiphany, not Firefox
[02:37] <Jucato> asimon: there are no gnome libs, iirc. there are g* libs, though
[02:37] <Jucato> :-D
[02:37] <intelikey> put another way.    anything good   that    apt-get install kde/gnome  wont get.
[02:38] <intelikey> libgnomecups1.0-1 libgnomeprint2.2-0 libgnomeprint2.2-data libgnomeprintui2.2-0 libgnomeprintui2.2-common <--- abiword depends on....
[02:38] <Jucato> oh yeah... i stand corrected
[02:38] <intelikey> :)
[02:38] <Jucato> there are GNOME libs
[02:38] <Jucato> (but I didn't give Abiword as an example, did I?)
 errr.. abiword is GTK+ based
[02:39] <asimon> hume_: Well there is View->View Mode->Image View. That wasn't what you meant?
 it's part of GNOME Office iirc
[02:39] <intelikey> Jucato no   i did.
[02:39] <intelikey> at any rate got any favorites ?
[02:40] <intelikey> paul is one.
[02:40] <Jucato> err.... I was actually saying that Abiword doesn't fall under the category you were looking for (non-GNOME, non-KDE).. anyway, moving on...
[02:40] <intelikey> gentoo is another.
[02:40] <intelikey> Jucato yes i got that.
[02:40] <Jucato> hmm..
[02:41] <Jucato> let me see. Xara LX uses wxWidgets, I think, so that's one
[02:41] <hume_> asimon, yeah, just that there is no "Image view" in view mode
[02:41] <Jucato> I'm not entirely sure what VLC uses
[02:42] <tk> considering VLC works on windows as well, I doubt its KDE or Gnome specific...
[02:42] <Jucato> XMMS and Audacity use GTK 1, last I remember, so you could probably scratch them out
[02:42] <tk> just a wild guess
[02:42] <Jack1> hi kde annoys me when closing a session it reopens the apps next time exactly as they where even though they are in autostart folder..so they are often twice then..eg kontact
[02:42] <djclue917_> Jucato: VLC has a wxWidgets front-end...
[02:42] <Jucato> Jack1: System Settings > KDE Components > Session Manager > start from an empty session
[02:42] <intelikey> i like vlc
[02:42] <Jucato> djclue917_: thanks
[02:42] <asimon> hume_: You have installed konq-plugins? Start another konquerer, it should then be there.
[02:43] <Jucato> intelikey: not necessarily true. Inkscape, the GIMP, and GAIM are GTK based, but they can also be installed in Windows.
[02:44] <Swatgoss_fr> Kubuntu use CUPS, right N
[02:44] <Swatgoss_fr> ?
[02:44] <asimon> Swatgoss_fr: yes
[02:44] <Jack1> Jucato: well but i actually want that as it is..just that kde knows :dont reopen if already in autostart..any fix for that?
[02:44] <Swatgoss_fr> not LPr or gcc ?
[02:44] <intelikey> Jucato did you misaddress that ?
[02:44] <intelikey> Jucato all i said about vlc is that i like it.
[02:45] <Jucato> intelikey: I think I did. sorry about that. it was for tk :-D
[02:45] <intelikey> Swatgoss_fr default *buntu uses cups
[02:45] <Swatgoss_fr> ok thx
[02:46] <Jucato> Jack1: If you put something in the Autostart folder, but didn't close that app before you logged out/restarted/shut down, it will really open twice (the saved session + a new session). So you either turn off session saving or you keep session saving but remove those apps from the Autostart folder
[02:47] <intelikey> Swatgoss_fr and  cupsys  more specifically     i think that's a cups+cupsd package with ubuntu configs   but i haven't really checked.
[02:47] <intelikey> lpr is good.
[02:48] <intelikey> lpr + printop   maybe ???
[02:50] <Swatgoss_fr> intelikey: its just because some1 asked me if he need CUPS, LPr or gcc driver for hes printer
[02:50] <intelikey> heres one.   mozilla-mailnews
[02:50] <intelikey> Swatgoss_fr wi
[02:51] <Shan_> how do I update my ati drivers?
[02:51] <ibert_> hi! I'm looking for a tool/way to manage NFS mounts on Laptop. Is autofs state od the art, or are there more resent approaches?
[02:51] <intelikey> !ati
[02:51] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:52] <Shan_> ta
[02:53] <intelikey> not sure that will help you any.  but i don't have ati
[02:54] <intelikey> installing a list of apps now.  back addrwhile
[02:59] <vlt> Hi. I just installed java5-plugin. I tworks in firefox but not in Konqueror (I set the path to /usr/bin/java). What else do I have to do to get java working with Konqueror?
[03:00] <jordan_88> hi
[03:01] <Jucato> vlt: go to Konqueror > Settings menu > Configure Konqueror > Plugins options
[03:01] <Jucato> err.. scratch that
[03:01] <Jucato> sorry, thinking of flash...
[03:01] <jordan_88> can I remobe konqueror and install tunder ?
[03:01] <jordan_88> *remove
[03:02] <jordan_88> in KDE ofcourse
[03:02] <Jucato> jordan_88: you can install thunar and just leave Konqueror. But I'm not sure how to set Thunar as the default file manager
[03:03] <jordan_88> Jucato  I want"s default it :/
[03:03] <Jucato> Btw, Thunar has no Trash management for now, so things you delete will be permanently deleted
[03:03] <gebruiker> I'm compiling a costum kernel, what do i need to enable to keep that nice booting loading screen on kubuntu?
[03:03] <Jucato> and you're going to miss out on a lot of KDE features.
[03:05] <vlt> Jucato: That way I activated the flashplugin-nonfree package ... But how to activate java?
[03:05] <jordan_88> how to remove enemy territory (all config ) ?
[03:06] <orasis1> Is "apt-get", like a console version of Synaptic?
[03:06] <vlt> I cannot use http://map24.com with Konqueror. Can anyone confirm that?
[03:06] <Swatgoss_fr> page start loading
[03:07] <Swatgoss_fr> and load :p
[03:07] <Swatgoss_fr> it work on my konqueror
[03:07] <Jucato> vlt: I'm not really sure. when I installed java, it was immediately recognized and activated in Konqueror. are you sure you have enabled Java globally?
[03:07] <Jack1> Jucato: HEY when i do what u say and then use in advanced exclude from behaviour: it works
[03:07] <vlt> Jucato: Yes.
[03:07] <Jack1> Jucato:
[03:08] <Jack1> i wouldnt have thought that that was refering to that but ok
[03:08] <orasis1> Oh yeah, is there any good audio editors in Linux, comparable to Sound Forge, or the former "cool edit" which is now Adobe audition? :)
[03:09] <jordan_88> how to remove enemy territory (all config ) ?
[03:09] <Swatgoss_fr> enemy teritory is on linux ?
[03:09] <Jucato> vlt: working here, too. except I have my own Java problem so applet problem so...
[03:09] <Swatgoss_fr> wow i'm retarded ...
[03:09] <jordan_88> Swatgoss_fr ofcourse
[03:10] <Swatgoss_fr> some links ???
[03:10] <Swatgoss_fr> wanna try !
[03:10] <vlt> Jucato: http://map24.com is working with your Konqueror and sun-java5-plugin from multiverse? How did you do that?
[03:10] <jordan_88> i have problem becouse I'm useing windows config and etpro configurate but the don't wokr on linux :/
[03:11] <nick_> hello, do someone know, i've there is a program for linux to make flash files?
[03:11] <jontydog> hi all its me again pestering
[03:12] <osh_> nick_: yes there is. hang on. I'll search my brain for a bit.
[03:12] <jontydog> having a problem with adept when I open it I get this error message
[03:12] <nick_> ok osh!! thanks
[03:12] <jontydog> You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[03:13] <Jucato> jontydog: try typing this in Konsole: "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[03:13] <nick_> maybe your konsole is still running
[03:13] <jontydog> as root or user?
[03:13] <Jucato> jontydog: just open Konsole normally, and type in that command
[03:13] <Jucato> without the quotes
[03:14] <jordan_88> what's comend remove protect folder
[03:14] <Jucato> vlt: maybe you need to set the default java version? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#head-fef9352fb26820bb774df978180c9dd3a60e777b
[03:14] <jontydog> ahh can it happen thru an aborted install jucato?
[03:15] <Jucato> jontydog: yeah it usually does. what were you trying to isntall btw?
[03:15] <jontydog> vmware
[03:15] <jontydog> when I typed that command in it mentioned vmware
[03:16] <Jucato> jontydog: install vmware-player on the command line. It won't work in Adept
[03:16] <Jucato> jontydog: but anyway, it's probably continuing the installation?
[03:16] <jontydog> seems to have finished now
[03:16] <jontydog> but I also get this error message
[03:17] <jontydog> Failed to open device
[03:17] <jontydog> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[03:17] <nick_> -osh-: have you find the name?? i've looked on the www but i haven't find anything
[03:17] <jontydog> I get that regularly
[03:17] <Jucato> jontydog: you get that regularly when?
[03:17] <jontydog> different times jucato
[03:17] <jontydog> but only in Konsole
[03:18] <Jucato> jontydog: but the app still launches?
[03:18] <jontydog> yes
[03:18] <Jucato> well, then there's no problem. I heard that those "error" messages are normal
[03:18] <vlt> Jucato: Ok, I set update-java-alt... to sun, restarted Konqueror but it still doesn't work. Any idea?
[03:20] <Jucato> hmm...
[03:20] <Jucato> running out of ideas...
[03:20] <vlt> Jucato: Will try setting java path from /usr/bin/java back to java ...
[03:20] <jontydog> cheers jucato problem solved
[03:20] <jontydog> I need to get a book on linux
[03:21] <Jucato> jontydog: ehehe! no problem, but that particular problem of yours isn't a general Linux problem. more of an Adept issue
[03:21] <vlt> Jucato: No, didn't work either ...
[03:21] <jontydog> :)
[03:22] <osh_> nick_: Sorry, can't find it. Very annoying since I saw it just a few months ago. Someone did a demo where they created a flash-film on how to do various tasks in linux. Very slick. Can't find it now though.
[03:23] <nick_> it's nothing
[03:24] <vlt> DOes anyone know what to do to enable java in konqueror? I already did: `sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin`, `sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-1.5.0-sun`, restart Konqueror. What did I miss (it's working in firefox)?
[03:25] <gnomefreak> vlt: you have to add the path in the prefferences
[03:25] <gnomefreak> vlt: go into the prefferences and i will show you
[03:25] <vlt> gnomefreak: Is it /usr/bin/java?
[03:26] <gnomefreak> hold on its longer than that ill give it to you in a sec
[03:26] <gnomefreak> /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.07/jre/lib/i386
[03:26] <gnomefreak> vlt: thats the path
[03:30] <jontydog> what do I need to type in kommand to install vmware jucato?
[03:31] <Jucato> sudo apt-get install vmware-player
[03:31] <jontydog> cheers m8
[03:32] <vlt> gnomefreak: "No such file o directory." But there's /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.06/jre/lib/i386/. I replaced it, restarted Konqueror and ... it still doesn't work.
[03:32] <gnomefreak> vlt: oh your java isnt up to date
[03:33] <gnomefreak> vlt: did you choose that java in update-alternatives?
[03:33] <Jucato> sudo update-alternatives --config java
[03:33] <Jucato> or is it java_vm???
[03:33] <gnomefreak> you have it right
[03:33] <vlt> gnomefreak: -l shows me "java-1.5.0-sun 53 /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun"
[03:34] <osh_> nick_: Have a look at this: http://www.camstudio.org/
[03:34] <gnomefreak> vlt: type sudo update-alternatives --config java
[03:34] <osh_> nick_: Might be what you're looking for. I think it's the one I was thinking about.
[03:35] <vlt> gnomefreak: Ok, chose "3" for sun's java ...
[03:35] <gnomefreak> yes
[03:35] <sorush20> is anyone here using kmymoney?
[03:36] <hume_> is there a way to automatically run a shellscript on log in? I'd need to autmount sshfs
[03:36] <gnomefreak> when thats done open konq. go to configure konq. than go to java/java script add the path to the last line/space but erase whats in there first
[03:37] <Teena> Hallo :)
[03:38] <Teena> may i ask you something? :)
[03:39] <Jucato> ??
[03:39] <Teena> :)
[03:40] <Teena> How to setup PPPoE under kubuntu? :)
[03:40] <Jucato> Teena: open up Konsole, then type in "sudo pppoeconf" (without the quotes)
[03:40] <vlt> gnomefreak: OK, I set java path in konq's settings to "/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java". That was the last line of update-java...'s output. Still doesn't work.
[03:40] <yamal> hume_: check out pam_mount (config in /etc/security)
[03:41] <jordan_88> how to serch files in consol ?
[03:41] <hume_> yamal, how do you mean, check out?
[03:41] <vlt> jordan_88: man find
[03:42] <yamal> hume_: as in, see if it fits your needs
[03:42] <vlt> jordan_88: man grep (if you want to look inside the files)
[03:43] <Jucato> jordan_88: or "locate <filename". you can also use it in Konqueror: locate:/<filename>
[03:45] <vlt> gnomefreak: Java still doesn't work in konqueror, firefox is fine.
[03:45] <gnomefreak> vlt: that isnt the right path
[03:45] <vlt> gnomefreak: Why could my java be not up to date?
[03:45] <jordan_88> how to restart KDE useing consol ?
[03:46] <vlt> gnomefreak: I'll try the first one ...
[03:46] <gnomefreak> /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.06/jre/lib/i386
[03:46] <Swatgoss_fr> jordan_88: restart ? gui ? or all system ?
[03:46] <gnomefreak> vlt: if you have .06 this path is what you want to use
[03:47] <Jucato> gnomefreak:  would you happen to know how I can keep Konqueror from launching Java applets in a separate, borderless window?
[03:47] <Swatgoss_fr> jordan_88ur in console mode only ? and u want to start/restart KDE interface ?
[03:47] <Swatgoss_fr> jordan_88: try typing "X"
[03:47] <wind> how do i automatically connect to a wireless secured network when i bootup?
[03:48] <wind> and whats a good ftp client?
[03:48] <Jucato> jordan_88: if you want to simply restart X (which also abruptly closes KDE), just press Ctrl+Alt+Backspace.
[03:48] <gnomefreak> Jucato: not off hand but the configure konq. settings should have it (dont look for java look for opening in a new window)
[03:48] <gnomefreak> i think its under web behavour
[03:49] <Jucato> hmm...
[03:49] <gnomefreak> vlt: are you on a 386?
[03:49] <Jucato> I'll check it out.
[03:49] <jordan_88> Jucato I'm useing fglrx so it's problem to corect use cltr + ALt + Backspace
[03:49] <vlt> gnomefreak: k7
[03:49] <gnomefreak> vlt: that would be why
[03:50] <hume_> yamal, i find some info about the pam_mount and sshfs, but it does not seem to work very easily - do you have any more info or know about specific solutions?
[03:50] <gebruiker> What options do I need configuring a costum kernel) enabeling the kubuntu splash boot screen?
[03:50] <gnomefreak> vlt: remove the 386 from it and add k7
[03:50] <gebruiker> What options do I need configuring a costum kernel) enabeling the kubuntu splash boot screen?
[03:50] <Teena> Jucato thanx! :D
[03:50] <archangel__> is there p2p software for linux?
[03:50] <Jack1> Jucato:
[03:50] <vlt> gnomefreak: s/i386/k7 in the path???
[03:50] <gnomefreak> archangel__: yes limewire frostwire amule .....
[03:51] <Jucato> archangel__: I think there's amule and limewire
[03:51] <archangel__> cool thanks
[03:51] <gnomefreak> vlt: yes take 386 out and put k7 in its place
[03:51] <yamal> hume_: no, other than read through /etc/security/pam_mount.conf, it has alot of comments. I just use pam_mount for mounting encrypted home dir on login.
[03:51] <Jack1> Jucato: when i want to open a port in firestarter and do add rule  i need to specify my ip.but hwat do i in case it is assigned so i get different ones evrytime i cnnect?
[03:51] <Jucato> gnomefreak: nothing I do changes it... it's weird coz the applets launch normally in Firefox and in MEPIS
[03:51] <vlt> gnomefreak: There is no such path in my system ...
[03:51] <Jucato> Jack1: err.. I'm not familiar with firewalls...
[03:51] <jontydog> grr still having probs with vmware
[03:52] <Jack1> Jucato: ok thx
[03:52] <archangel__> can ubuntu use RPM's?
[03:52] <gnomefreak> vlt: locate java | less    than look for a path that looks like the one i gave you (the 386 should be something else but the rest of path should be same)
[03:52] <vlt> gnomefreak: Sorry, that was wrong: I'm currently on 2.6.15-26-386 ...
[03:52] <jontydog> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)------- Get that error msg now installing vmware
[03:52] <gnomefreak> ok than use the one i gave you
[03:53] <gnomefreak> Jucato: under behaveour what do you have checked
[03:53] <osh_> archangel__: yes, through someting called "alien" but do try to use debs if possible.
[03:53] <archangel__> ok
[03:54] <archangel__> thanks
[03:54] <djclue917> Jack1: what do you want to do with Firestarter?
[03:54] <Jack1> open a port for amule
[03:54] <Jack1> djclue917: open a port for amule
[03:54] <Jucato> gnomefreak: open new tabs in background, confirm when closing windows with multiple tabs, open popups in new tabs, open as tab in existing Konqueror.
[03:55] <osh_> nick_: did you test that flash-creater-thingy?
[03:55] <djclue917> Jack1: inbound, outbound, or both?
[03:55] <Jucato> gnomefreak: it's not really launching a real "window". it's like the java applet jumps out of the window and launches by itself
[03:55] <gnomefreak> Jucato: uncheck open popups in new tab
[03:55] <hume_> is there a way to run a program on kde startup, similar to the gnome startup program in "Sessions"?
[03:55] <gnomefreak> Jucato: than im not sure in a  few hours i will play with it but i cant atm
[03:56] <Jucato> gnomefreak: I already did. It's not really launching a real "window". it's like the java applet jumps out of the window and launches by itself, when the applet is supposed to be embedded within the web page
[03:56] <sorush2> hi guys ,
[03:56] <Jucato> gnomefreak: ok thanks. this is really bugging me :-D
[03:56] <djclue917> Jucato: I think there's nothing we could do about that.. :(
[03:56] <djclue917> Jucato: about the Java applet thing
[03:56] <vlt> gnomefreak: So kernel is 2.6.15-26-386, path is /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.06/jre/lib/i386/ (it exists) but it's not working. Why could my java be not up to date?
[03:56] <sorush2> from this paste how do I find out which drivers I should use for my graphics card?
[03:56] <sorush2> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[03:57] <sorush2> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20449
[03:57] <Jucato> djclue917: ehehe I wonder why... it's another thing that works fine in Konqueror on MEPIS... and in Firefox on Kubuntu
[03:57] <Jack1> djclue917: forward servcice, this is inbound right?
[03:57] <gnomefreak> vlt: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:57] <osh_> hume_: have a look in $HOME/.kde/Autostart
[03:57] <djclue917> Jucato: it's ok with Firefox. i don't know with Konqueror..
[03:57] <djclue917> Jack1: you mean port forwarding?
[03:57] <hume_> osh_, thks
[03:57] <sorush2> is high defenition audio available yet on alsa?
[03:57] <jordan_88> Et don't return to  resolution of deskop when Im exit
[03:57] <jordan_88> ?
[03:57] <Jack1> djclue917: i wanna do this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=92046
[03:58] <Jack1> djclue917: but i cannot specify my ip
[03:58] <vlt> gnomefreak: System is updated. (K)ubuntu Dapper 6.06 ...
[03:58] <djclue917> Jack1: why do you need port forwarding? is the aMule client installed in another machine that is connected to your machine?
[03:58] <djclue917> Jack1: ok. I'll take a look.
[03:58] <Jack1> djclue917: isnt that the normal way? sry i have never really used amule before
[03:59] <osh_> Jack1: www.freenetproject.org. That and "Frost" and you've got yourself a "safe" filesharing app.
[03:59] <djclue917> Jack1: I'm not familiar with aMule since I don't use it. I use Azureus and other BT clients however..
[03:59] <Jack1> djclue917: i see not forwarding needed ok
[03:59] <djclue917> Jack1: does aMule need an inbound port open?
[04:00] <djclue917> Jack1: so that other users could connect to your PC?
[04:00] <Jack1> djclue917:  apparentyl yes
[04:00] <djclue917> Jack1: oh i see..
[04:00] <Jack1> so what its safe to use? azureus? frost?
[04:00] <djclue917> Jack1: the default behavior of Firestarter is to allow all outbound traffic. the inbound traffic is what's really being filtered.
[04:01] <XVampireX> freenet is infested with stuff people shouldn't look at
[04:01] <djclue917> Jack1: so you need to open an inbound port. I guess it is 4662 according to the post
[04:01] <gnomefreak> vlt: .06 seems to be latest for dapper i had .07 on dapper but i had gotten it from suns site. please install sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin   than add the path to konq again.
[04:01] <Jack1> djclue917: yes but how?or should i better have azureus?
[04:01] <XVampireX> azureus is for bit torrent
[04:02] <djclue917> Jack1: Azurues is a BitTorrent client. aMule is for eDonkey networks
[04:02] <gnomefreak> ill brb while you are installing it
[04:02] <djclue917> Jack1: Allow service: eDonkey | Port: 4662 | For: everyone
[04:02] <djclue917> Jack1: try that setting and see if it will work..
[04:03] <djclue917> don't forget to click the "Apply Policy" button. ;-)
[04:03] <vlt> gnomefreak: sun-java5-plugin (and -bin and -jre) is installed.
[04:03] <osh_> Jack1: frost is something on top of freenet. freenet is very safe, but it's dog slow. bittorrent is not safe but VERY fast. amule is somewhere in between. or more like kind of slow and unsafe.
[04:04] <djclue917> osh_: it's not like that you know...
[04:05] <Jack1> osh_: well when i dont use it i could at least close the ports its not that i have it evry day open
[04:05] <vlt> gnomefreak: I did a "test your JVM" test on java.com. Error message in the applet window is (translated): "Error: executable program for java not found".
[04:05] <osh_> djclue917: what's not like that? it's a generalization but it's somewhat true.
[04:05] <djclue917> Jack1: you can't do away with opening ports when you use the Internet...
[04:06] <djclue917> osh_: no it isn't. what made you generalize that BitTorrent networks are fast and not secure
[04:06] <Jack1> djclue917: sure but i could close the amule ports at least
[04:06] <djclue917> osh_: BitTorrent swarm speeds depend on the number of seeders, peers, and some other factors.
[04:07] <djclue917> Jack1: well you could do that if you're really paranoid about security. ;-0
[04:07] <djclue917> ;-)
[04:07] <wind> how do i get kasablanca to save the ftp info?
[04:07] <wind> like the host and user/pw
[04:07] <Jack1> djclue917: hmm it wont work
[04:07] <osh_> djclue917: what's not true about that? they are fast, no doubt about that. and all IP's are visible to anyone who connects to that swarm so it's not safe (if you download illegal stuff that is).
[04:07] <Jack1> djclue917: upload works no download
[04:09] <djclue917> osh_: well let's see.. How fast do you think is a BitTorrent network when: there the seeder to peer ratio is 1:1,000,000, and the tracker is down. tell me...
[04:09] <osh_> Jack1: you sure you're just not in a queue somewhere? that's usually what happens when I try amule.
[04:10] <Jack1> osh_: well i see the yellow arrow its possible probably i have not interesting enought stuff
[04:10] <Jack1> osh_: honestly i dont know
[04:10] <gebruiker> guys could any of you help me out?
[04:10] <Jack1> osh_: which server should one choose? with the smallest ping time?
[04:10] <djclue917> Jack1: you might want to look at Firestarter's log.
[04:11] <djclue917> Jack1: or even at the kernel log to see if connections are being blocked..
[04:12] <osh_> djclue917: sure, bring up some weird ass case to prove your point. fact of the matter is that it really is fast, most of the time. I was making a generalization, and in those you disregard the odd "special cases".
[04:13] <osh_> Jack1: I always used the ones with the most connected peers, second choice was low ping.
[04:13] <djclue917> osh_: the fact is that BitTorrent networks are REALLY dependent on the number of seeds and peers. you can't argue with that...
[04:15] <alex_yo> can somebody tell me how to install a new themestyle in kde?
[04:15] <osh_> djclue917: so how would you generally categorize a bittorrent swarm to freenet? fast or slow?
[04:16] <djclue917> osh_: so you're asking me to generalize something that can't be generalized?
[04:18] <osh_> djclue917: can't be generalized? so, if you were to distribute some large file to the world, what would you use? bittorrent or freenet?
[04:18] <soulrider> djclue917: i believe bittorrent is superior to any toher network ive tried
[04:18] <soulrider> at least it work a lot better than any others for me
[04:19] <osh_> djclue917: generally speaking bittorrent IS faster than any other. There are exceptions, I don't deny that, but most of the time bittorrent swarms ARE fast.
[04:20] <soulrider> indeed
[04:20] <soulrider> especially in private trackers
[04:20] <soulrider> where everyones goal is to seed as much as theyc an
[04:20] <alex_yo> can somebody tell me how to install a new themestyle in kde?
[04:21] <alex_yo> ??
[04:21] <soulrider> system settings > appearance
[04:21] <Jucato> err...
[04:21] <Jucato> alex_yo: do you mean the Theme/Style from KDE-Look?
[04:22] <alex_yo> yes
[04:22] <osh_> alex_yo: if you've got it from kde-look.org you might need to do a "configure; make; make install"
[04:22] <alex_yo> ?
[04:22] <Jucato> alex_yo: yes. you would probably have to compile it, or install it like a .deb file
[04:22] <Jucato> alex_yo: can you point out the particular Theme/Style?
[04:23] <soulrider> !plasmoids
[04:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about plasmoids - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:23] <alex_yo> -look.org/content/show.php?content=40492&PHPSESSID=9668da50511cbf9f3027e247fa7a0f66)
[04:23] <alex_yo> 40797-Glossyk.tar.gz
[04:23] <alex_yo> and now?
[04:24] <Jucato> alex_yo: the link you pasted... well... it's not clickable..
[04:25] <osh_> alex_yo: http://tinyurl.com -> to make long urls short.
[04:25] <chavo> alex_yo, that's a kopet style
[04:25] <chavo> kopete
[04:25] <alex_yo> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=40797&PHPSESSID=6f9bf895def3c8b9502388ca8cc73390
[04:26] <Jucato> alex_yo: it's a Kopete style, not a KDE Theme/Style
[04:26] <Jucato> alex_yo: just download the .tar.gz and put it somewhere
[04:26] <alex_yo> yes
[04:27] <Jucato> alex_yo: then once, it's finished downloading, open up Kopete, go to Settings > Configure Kopete > Appearance options > Chat Window tab
[04:27] <Jucato> alex_yo: click on Install and look for the .tar.gz you download. that's all there is to it
[04:28] <alex_yo> i have kde
[04:28] <Jucato> alex_yo: that "style" is a theme for Kopete, the KDE Instant Messaging/IRC Client
[04:30] <Jucato> alex_yo: that style won't apply to the whole of KDE. only to Kopete
[04:30] <soulrider> !aero
[04:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aero - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:31] <rgouveia> is anybody here responsible for the website?
[04:31] <Jucato> rgouveia: which website?
[04:32] <rgouveia> kubuntu.org
[04:32] <Jucato> I'm not sure they're around. what's the problem?
[04:33] <ninHer> hi all
[04:35] <rgouveia> Jucato: I think http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.php should mention that you need to have univerve and multiverse reps on sources.list. I had probs today installing it cause I didn't have those
[04:35] <Jucato> rgouveia: yeah. let me see...
[04:38] <Sp4rKy> hi
[04:38] <Sp4rKy> please how QTDIR should be set ?
[04:42] <djclue917> !pastebin
[04:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:57] <job0000> hi i've just upgraded from breezy to dapper but my taskbar has disappeared does anybody know how I can get it back?
[04:59] <wind> how come amarak won't play my mp3s?
[04:59] <LeeJunFan> job0000: if you alt-f2 and run kicker does it come back?
[04:59] <wind> i click on the mp3, it goes down the whole list then says playlist finished
[04:59] <Jucato> wind: you need to install the proper codecs for it
[04:59] <glen_> wind: search for amarok-xine
[04:59] <fritsch> !RestrictedFormats > wind
[04:59] <wind> thanks
[04:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about RestrictedFormats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:59] <Jucato> actually it's libxine-extracodecs
[04:59] <Jucato> it's in the multiverse repository
[05:00] <job0000> leefunjun: no it dosen't
[05:00] <LeeJunFan> wind: what Jucato says - and after you install that quit amarok and re-start it.
[05:00] <dads> i need help installin video drivers
[05:00] <fritsch> wind: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[05:00] <wind> k thanks
[05:00] <LeeJunFan> job0000: I have a feeling some part of your upgrade didn't go so smooth. Did you upgrade with apt-get dist-upgrade? you might want to run apt-get -f install
[05:03] <job0000> leejunfun: i followed the instructions from http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper edited sources.list the ru apg-get update, upgrade and dist-upgrade
[05:04] <LeeJunFan> job0000: sometimes nested dependancies don't allow apt-get dist-upgrade to get everything in one pass, you can try running apt-get dist-upgrade again, then apt-get -f install. And if neither of them do any further installing or errors when you run them then everything should be installed okay.
[05:05] <job0000> leejunfan: ok thanks will try that
[05:05] <LeeJunFan> job0000: in that case try creating a brand new user and see if that user get's a kicker. If the new user does get one, the it's probably some setting specific to your current user that's screwing things up.
[05:06] <wind> hey does anyone have the hinder album
[05:06] <wind> the latest one
[05:06] <wind> or half that first song get stoned
[05:07] <wind> is the track suppose to just drop in the middle and play something completely different?
[05:07] <wind> then start abck up for the last 40-50 sec
[05:07] <julio> hola
[05:08] <gebruiker> How is 3.5.4 runnig?
[05:08] <Jucato> generally ok... with a few quirks here and there...
[05:09] <gebruiker> what are the known bugs then?
[05:10] <Jucato> hmm... one of the devs confirmed the bug I'm experiencing, where partitions that aren't mounted at startup don't appear in media:/
[05:11] <LeeJunFan> Jucato: you running edgy or dapper? I haven't had that issue with mine.
[05:11] <Jucato> Dapper, KDE 3.5.4
[05:12] <Jucato> it's not a problem that a lot of people are having. but a dev did say that there was a slight problem with KDE 3.5.4 and Kubuntu's HAL
[05:12] <Bernardo> hi
[05:12] <LeeJunFan> Jucato: same here. Perhaps I just haven't hit it yet. After I upgraded of course it mounts my externals now with /media/usbdisk[#]  instead of the devname.
[05:13] <Jucato> ah yes, mine too.
[05:17] <Bernardo> I'm having lots of problems with samba as PDC on kubuntu dapper (no ldap), as I'm now unable to add another kubuntu dapper machine to the domain. It has worked before, and I have another kubuntu dapper and a windows machine added to that domain. Any ideas?
[05:19] <LeeJunFan> Bernardo: make sure only one of your kubuntu machines is set to force election and that the real master has a higher os level
[05:20] <LeeJunFan> Bernardo: and only one is set to be a browse master.
[05:24] <thygrrr> Hello! Any clues on how to get my ATAPI DVD+/-R drive to support UDMA? The standard ATAPI driver doesn't seem to do anything, and I can'T find the right packages for scsi emulation. (I'm rather clueless about this, unfortunately)
[05:27] <LeeJunFan> thygrrr: hdparm /dev/[devname]  shows dma as off?
[05:27] <thygrrr> Hm.
[05:28] <Bernardo> LeeJunFan: yes, both check. and as I wrote, it used to work. I had the machine I can't join to the domain now working perfectly
[05:28] <thygrrr> It says udma is on. Apparently, it's the transport that the cd burning program uses? A friend showed me some info document that said that "there's no udma support" for a certain feature, and that one should be using SCSI.
[05:29] <Bernardo> I've now removed the machine account from smbpasswd, and did a userdel to remove all traces of it, and tried adding it again
[05:29] <LeeJunFan> thygrrr: hrm, dunno about that.
[05:29] <Bernardo> and it fails, but creates those entries (smbpasswd, shadow and passwd) back
[05:32] <_Shade_> how can i install software from nomachine.com on dapper ?
[05:32] <LeeJunFan> Bernardo: on this detached machine if you run smbclient -L localhost at the bottom where it shows workgroups and masters is the right master listed?
[05:32] <thygrrr> Wow, according to K3b, my drive suports dual layer. That's kind of a surprise, actually... I'm sceptic.
[05:33] <LeeJunFan> thygrrr: due to a firewire communication error my external DVD writer once reported as being able to burn DVD's at 60x :p
[05:34] <zblach> hey all. quick question. kmobiletools; does it work with bluetooth?
[05:36] <Bernardo> LeeJunFan: if I run "smbclient -L localhost" I get "session setup failed: NT_STATUS_NO_LOGON_SERVERS"
[05:37] <Bernardo> I've already tried using the PDC ip instead of the netbios name, but it didn't help
[05:38] <thygrrr> LeeJunFan, it does that for me (48x, which is its CDR speed), though it's an internal drive.
[05:39] <thygrrr> LeeJunFan, I tried burning at single speed. Frequent (about 10 per second) buffer underruns, it's really slow.
[05:39] <nagyv> hello! I would like to use wpa_suplicant to access the wireless in my college. I have set it up somehow, but it doesn't work. I put its output on pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20454 Could someone help me out?
[05:43] <wind> how do i transfer my music (on my laptop) to my ipod
[05:44] <aliasfred> wind: the last version of amarok is supposed to do it
[05:44] <wind> really
[05:44] <wind> how do i know if i have the latest version
[05:45] <aliasfred> hmm good question :)
[05:45] <soulrider> lol LeeJunFan
[05:45] <soulrider> DVDs at 60x thats uber :P
[05:46] <aliasfred> wind: ok the steps are 1. check what is the last version on the amarok website, 2. check that it does support the ipod feature you want 3. find the special repository to get its package for kubuntu :)
[05:46] <soulrider> my DVD drive only ahs a 2 mb buffer
[05:46] <wind> hm
[05:46] <LeeJunFan> Bernardo: maybe someone in ubuntu could help, since samba's not really kubuntu or ubuntu specific.
[05:47] <Bernardo> ok, will try there. #samba seems to be asleep today, as I got no help there
[05:49] <KaiHanari> Bernardo, this is still morning in most of the world. IRC users are active mostly at night.
[05:49] <RandomDude15> hey I need help getting my hp deskjet 5400 working in kubuntu
[05:50] <Bernardo> KaiHanari: it's mid-afternon in europe and africa... :)
[05:50] <LeeJunFan> Bernardo: yeah, my PDC experience is short.
[05:50] <Bernardo> LeeJunFan: the strangest is that iw worked well until about a week ago
[05:50] <KaiHanari> Bernardo, still not night :P its about the right time to get help over in asia, but they dont use the english networks :P
[05:51] <ssddss> Hi, i'm trying to load XGL+Compiz with an ATI Xpress 200M. Everything has been installed fine, but, setting the xgl display at 1, there is no graphic acceleration, and setting in in the display 0, there a a lot of odd effects. What am i doing wrong? Maybe i should use gdm instead of kdm?
[05:52] <aliasfred> KaiHanari: you live in the us, correct ?
[05:56] <CPU_Wizard> hello people! how can i install a language?
[05:56] <aliasfred> there is a special package for each language... dont remember the name tho
[05:57] <aliasfred> !language
[05:57] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:57] <ssddss> CPU_Wizard, there are a lot of language packages. sudo apt-get install kde-language-XX, i think
[05:57] <CPU_Wizard> ok, let me try it
[05:57] <CPU_Wizard> it doesn't work...
[05:58] <ssddss> use adeptm and look for something simmilar
[05:58] <ssddss> adept, sorry
[05:58] <CPU_Wizard> ok! thank you for helping me!
[05:58] <Bernardo> well, purging my samba install seems to have worked. No Idea why it failed, but...
[05:58] <ssddss> 100$ per answer lol
[05:59] <LeeJunFan> ssddss: even if it's a typo correction :p
[06:00] <CPU_Wizard> thank you ssddss it works!
[06:00] <ssddss> yeah, business are business :P
[06:01] <ssddss> what is the real name of lang packs, btw?
[06:02] <CPU_Wizard> it said language-pack-xx
[06:02] <CPU_Wizard> something like that, i saw it in adept
[06:02] <ssddss> ok, ok
[06:03] <sorush20> how do I make sure specific ports are open or closed?
[06:03] <djk_> how can i check which kernel modules are used for my eth0 and eth1?
[06:04] <aliasfred> i dont think you can
[06:04] <ssddss> sorush20, man iptables
[06:05] <aliasfred> djk_: lsmod will list all the loaded module, and less /var/log/message to get the kernel view of the eth0/eth1
[06:05] <aliasfred> sorush20: or try to connect from outside thru to this port and see if it succeed/failed
[06:05] <ninHer> hi all
[06:06] <aliasfred> i think there are some good front end to iptable but i never saw them :)
[06:06] <aliasfred> ninHer: hi
[06:06] <ninHer> hi aliasfred
[06:07] <cb_k> hi all. I have recently installed kubuntu. I made some upgrades with adept but now everytime I try to intall/upgrade a package it says BREAK (install)... what should Ido?
[06:08] <aliasfred> you should findout why does it break :)
[06:08] <cb_k> how?
[06:08] <Festyur> when i open gimp or firefox, the menus look crappy
[06:08] <Festyur> any ideas?
[06:08] <bigbill52a> i shut down and restarted my computer and my kdm would not start windows manager..it would just keep coming back to login screen...
[06:08] <aliasfred> dunno much, i would say try 'dpkg -a --configure' cb_k
[06:09] <bigbill52a> there was no reason that this should happen...everything shut down properly, etc
[06:09] <aliasfred> Festyur: some compatibity issue with gnome apps under kde
[06:09] <Festyur> aliasfred: indeed
[06:09] <aliasfred> i heard some stuff about it... i dont remember the solution tho
[06:10] <Festyur> aliasfred: there should be a package to fix this
[06:10] <aliasfred> very far in my head ... i think it was a font issue.... but real far
[06:11] <niels> hi everybody, can sb work iwith amarok and codecs?
[06:11] <bigbill52a> i had installed the latest kde with automatix...but this time i did not do so
[06:11] <Festyur> aliasfred: :p
[06:11] <Festyur> niels: i can help u
[06:11] <niels> yea?
[06:11] <Festyur> niels: y wht do u need?
[06:12] <niels> the problem is, when I want to play a song it seems to work but after 1second(i don't hear any sound) it changes to the next song in my library
[06:12] <niels> ...
[06:12] <Festyur> mp3?
[06:12] <niels> mp3,wav...
[06:12] <niels> especially mp3
[06:12] <Festyur> !mp3
[06:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:12] <bigbill52a> niels sounds like your missing the codecs
[06:13] <Festyur> yep
[06:13] <niels> yes i kjnow but i downloaded them a 1000 times but it won't work
[06:13] <niels> gstreamer...
[06:13] <Festyur> go to the 1st link
[06:13] <Festyur> no
[06:13] <Festyur> libxine
[06:13] <bigbill52a> niels have you tried automatix...?
[06:14] <niels> no i used neither libxine or automatix
[06:14] <niels> which is best?
[06:14] <bigbill52a> search for ubuntu guide and then follow the instructions for installing automatix
[06:14] <Festyur> lol
[06:15] <bigbill52a> automatix takes care of most of my codecs and stuff...
[06:15] <angasule> !dosemu
[06:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dosemu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:15] <angasule> !freedos
[06:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about freedos - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:15] <gan|y|med> hi
[06:15] <gan|y|med> anybody here using initng?
[06:16] <aliasfred> !info freedos
[06:16] <ubotu> Package freedos does not exist in dapper
[06:16] <niels> eum to uncomment, does that mean to delete the #sign?
[06:17] <angasule> gah, dosemu in kubuntu is broken :(
[06:17] <Tarandus> it is, but I solved it by compiling it from Debian testing sources
[06:17] <Tarandus> it took some 2 hours
[06:18] <angasule> does that mean a correct package won't be on the servers?
[06:18] <Tarandus> you mean what?
[06:18] <Tarandus> there is a working package in Debian testing repositories
[06:18] <Tarandus> but their binary package requires too many of their other binary packages
[06:18] <Gffmac> any mac users in here? Ive got problems with yaboot
[06:19] <Tarandus> by building from source, one needs only few other Debian testing packages
[06:19] <Tarandus> basically, you remove Kubuntu's dosemu from your system
[06:19] <Tarandus> and the freedos and xfonts-dosemu
[06:20] <Tarandus> then you add Debian testing's source repository to your sources.list
[06:20] <Tarandus> remember to _not_ add their binary repository
[06:20] <Tarandus> then you do "apt-get build-dep dosemu"
[06:20] <Tarandus> it complains that there is no package thisandthat
[06:20] <Tarandus> then you do "apt-get build-dep thisandthat"
[06:20] <angasule> thanks, but I'll wait for a working ubuntu package and use dosbox in the meantime
[06:22] <Tarandus> ok, but it was a nice experience anyway =)
[06:22] <niels> bigbill52a, idid everything aboutinstalling automatix
[06:22] <niels> do i have to reboot now?
[06:22] <_axiom> When I run a make install with sudo, how can I still be getting 'Permisson Denied' when trying to create files?  Doesn't this mean I am running it as root?
[06:23] <_axiom> "/usr/bin/install: cannot create regular file `/usr/share/apps/kicker/applets/tastymenu.desktop': Permission denied"
[06:24] <cb_1> how can I downgrade a package?
[06:25] <_axiom> cb_1: only gentoo does that by nature
[06:26] <aliasfred> cb_1: you can do it with kubuntu as well using for --force option in apt
[06:26] <gan|y|med> anybody here using initng?
[06:28] <cb_1> THX
[06:31] <bigbill52a> niels..did you select automatix from the system menu?
[06:31] <bigbill52a> it will bring you up a menu
[06:32] <gebruiker> I need a kde osx like title bar
[06:32] <bigbill52a> what would cause kdm to hang and not start windows
[06:32] <bigbill52a> it just repeats the log in screen
[06:33] <bigbill52a> i had to reinstall kubuntu
[06:35] <_axiom> Do make scripts usually work on Kubuntu, or am I encountering weird sudo != root problems?
[06:36] <zoidberg> hey guys
[06:36] <zoidberg> i need some urgent help
[06:36] <zoidberg> can anyone help me out....PCMCIA services fail to start at boot?
[06:36] <bigbill52a> it was a smart move that i had a separate /home when i had to reinstall
[06:37] <_axiom> zoidberg: same thing happens on mine, do you have any PCMCIA devices?
[06:37] <zoidberg> i dont knot
[06:37] <zoidberg> know
[06:37] <_axiom> zoidberg: are you on a laptop?
[06:37] <zoidberg> but ubuntu doesnt reocgnize the generic intel soundcard on this pII dell
[06:37] <zoidberg> adn i'm wondering if that is why
[06:37] <zoidberg> no
[06:37] <zoidberg> deskto
[06:37] <zoidberg> dell optiplex 350 mhz p2 128 ram
[06:38] <_axiom> zoidberg: PCMCIA is only for laptops
[06:38] <zoidberg> you sure?
[06:38] <_axiom> zoidberg: don't know what is causing your sound problems but we can rule that out
[06:38] <zoidberg> i would appreciate any help
[06:38] <g-henna> hi folks
[06:39] <g-henna> i have a serious problem with my acer travelmate running kubuntu dapper...
[06:39] <_axiom> zoidberg:  yes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pcmcia
[06:39] <g-henna> yesterday, i upgraded my ram from 512 (ddr2) to 1024 mb, so now (at least in windows) it runs fine in dual-channel mode
[06:39] <g-henna> and...
[06:39] <g-henna> kubuntu doesn't boot any more
[06:40] <g-henna> i mean... i get "loading essential drivers" and there it stays
[06:40] <zoidberg> _axiom, when i go to the volum control...it says cant find sound daemon and please run esd in terminal
[06:40] <zoidberg> what is esd?
[06:41] <zoidberg> _axiom, are you there?
[06:42] <gebruiker> I need a kde osx like title bar
[06:43] <gebruiker> I need a kde osx like dock?
[06:43] <_axiom> zoidberg: yeah, hardware problems are evil man.  Does it work on the live cd?
[06:43] <gebruiker> which one is good?
[06:44] <zoidberg> i dunno
[06:44] <zoidberg> but i know it was there with windows
[06:44] <zoidberg> plus i can see the damn card
[06:44] <zoidberg> lol
[06:44] <_axiom> kxdocker
[06:45] <gebruiker> I installed the latest kubuntu I'm used to breezy, but I noticed this significal speed delay
[06:45] <gebruiker> what is going on...?
[06:47] <gebruiker> I think I have to revert to breezy man
[06:47] <osiris> gebruiker, what kernel are you running ?
[06:48] <gebruiker> 2.6.15-26-68
[06:48] <gebruiker> 2.6.15-26-686
[06:48] <g-henna> anyone can tell me that key combination for stopping + continuing output on a text console?
[06:49] <aliasfred> g-henna: ctrl-s to strop it, ctrl-q to continue
[06:49] <sorush20> how do I change my host name? ie the name of my computer on my network?
[06:50] <g-henna> thx
[06:51] <niels> bigbill52a, istill have that stupid codec problemwith amarok
[06:51] <niels> : 
[06:51] <niels> :@
[06:51] <Distro^Junkie> what codec problem ?
[06:51] <niels> non of my mp3's can play in amarok
[06:51] <Lynoure> g-henna: many keyboards also have a scroll key that does the same
[06:52] <bigbill52a> did you start automatix?
[06:52] <_axiom> !restricted
[06:52] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:52] <g-henna> ctrl+q/ctrl+s just give me weird "atkbd.c: Spurious ACK on isa0060/serio0 ..."
[06:52] <Distro^Junkie> that's what I was looking for _axiom
[06:53] <Distro^Junkie> thanx
[06:53] <Distro^Junkie> got my uncle downloading kubuntu as well
[06:53] <bigbill52a> once you install automatix..you can access from the system menu
[06:53] <aliasfred> g-henna: wow a printk on ctrl-s ? something is real wrong with your keyboard driver then :)
[06:53] <Lynoure> g-henna: what about the scroll key? Or are you without one?  (in e.g. this lappy it's fn+home but many keyboards have it directly)
[06:53] <aliasfred> i mean this combination has been the one for like 20 years :)
[06:54] <niels> bigbill i did that...
[06:54] <aliasfred> at least :)
[06:54] <niels> by typing in console automatix
[06:54] <niels> but it won't play:(
[06:54] <nikos> niels hi
[06:54] <bigbill52a> my question:  Why does kdm hang and not start up windows..it just keeps returning to the login screen...
[06:54] <nikos> niels hi
[06:54] <g-henna> man, I have much larger problems than my keyboard driver; did you read my problem from above?
[06:54] <g-henna> yesterday, i upgraded my ram from 512 (ddr2) to 1024 mb, so now (at least in windows) it runs fine in dual-channel mode
[06:54] <g-henna> kubuntu doesn't boot any more
[06:55] <nikos> i'm talking to u through linux i managed the internet connection
[06:55] <g-henna> i mean... i get "loading essential drivers" and there it stays
[06:55] <niels> nice nikos
[06:55] <niels> found the problem?
[06:56] <g-henna> and if i remove "quiet" and "splash" from boot parameters, then i see the last message is "acpi: processor [cpu0]  ..."
[06:56] <fritsch> g-henna: try boot paramter: acpi=off
[06:58] <g-henna> fritsch: my personal hero for today :-)
[06:58] <fritsch> g-henna: please write a bug report to the kernel maintaners, with your specs, please
[06:58] <CVirus> Guys ... The icon name of the root partition in media:/ has changed to 2HS0yu-jour ... What the fusk is that ?!!?!
[06:58] <g-henna> fritsch: now it hangs after the touchscreen is detected
[06:59] <fritsch> g-henna: okay, try: acpi=off irqpoll routeirq=pci
[06:59] <g-henna> but that is somehow okay, since this notebook has a buggy acpi implementation anyway... a have to boot with noapictimer anyway, or it won't boot at all
[06:59] <fritsch> g-henna: is this a notebook?
[07:00] <g-henna> yuz
[07:00] <fritsch> g-henna: perhaps: noapic nolapic would help, too
[07:00] <fritsch> g-henna: but first try these from above
[07:00] <Kalidarn> if i used Kubuntuy would i have to use arts?
[07:00] <jani> Hello! I try to install Knews -program from K menu's add/remove programs but the selection is gray, what I have missed?
[07:00] <fritsch> Kalidarn: no
[07:01] <g-henna> ACPI-0142: Error: Handler for [SystemMemory]  returned AE_NO_MEMORY
[07:01] <Kalidarn> ah okay how do you 'not' use it in kubuntu, i am familiar how in gentoo ;) but i am trying to help a friend.
[07:01] <fritsch> g-henna: acpi=off ?
[07:01] <g-henna> this was with noapic nolapic, moment
[07:01] <fritsch> g-henna: acpi=off noapic routeirq=pci irqpoll
[07:01] <fritsch> g-henna: :-) what a mess
[07:02] <Kalidarn> fritsch?
[07:02] <CVirus> Guys ... The icon name of the root partition in media:/ has changed to 2HS0yu-jour ... What the fusk is that ?!!?!
[07:02] <fritsch> Kalidarn: yes?
[07:02] <Kalidarn> so how do you disable arts on a kubuntu system
[07:02] <fritsch> Kalidarn: you just disable it in control center
[07:02] <pm>  is it possible to play tracks without pauses between them in amarok?
[07:02] <Kalidarn> ah okay that is systemwide?
[07:03] <johnsandman> can I install kubuntu by using VPC and how must I manage that ?
[07:03] <fritsch> Kalidarn: for your user only ...
[07:03] <Kalidarn> ah oays.
[07:03] <Kalidarn> thx
[07:03] <fritsch> Kalidarn: why not use it?
[07:03] <fritsch> Kalidarn: no problem
[07:03] <Kalidarn> mm
[07:03] <fritsch> Kalidarn: arts uses alsa by default
[07:03] <Kalidarn> its buggy, and won't even be in KDE 4.0
[07:03] <g-henna> ok, with acpi=off irqpoll routeirq=pci it also hangs after detecting touchscreen, and one line more (parport_pc: probe of ... failed with -5)
[07:03] <johnsandman> It is for someone else not me
[07:03] <g-henna> now trying your last suggestion...
[07:03] <Kalidarn> he says he had it  crash, and then got some error or something
[07:03] <fritsch> g-henna: what laptop is this?
[07:04] <Kalidarn> so i was just teaching him how to get rid of arts, i personally use KDE in gentoo without arts even installed because i hear so many complaints about it.
[07:04] <gan|y|med> anybody here using initng?
[07:04] <Kalidarn> apparently it isn't maintained anymore.
[07:04] <jani> Does anyone have suggestions for those disabled programs on add/remove programs, how to install those (for example Knews)?
[07:04] <g-henna> acer travelmate 4602 wlmi
[07:04] <Kalidarn> much
[07:04] <fritsch> Kalidarn: okay, it "just" uses alsa in kubuntu
[07:04] <Kalidarn> ah okay
[07:04] <Kalidarn> then it must be another problem =)
[07:04] <Kalidarn> thanks.
[07:05] <ehasting> hey.. is there any way i can change the singleklick behaviour in konqueror?
[07:05] <fritsch> ehasting: in control center
[07:05] <g-henna> fritsch: your last suggestion hangs at parport_pc: probe of ... failed with error -5
[07:05] <ehasting> fritsch: i have searched it up and down.. but cant find it..
[07:06] <g-henna> fritsch: and two lines above: "PnPBIOS: get_dev_node: function not supported on this system"
[07:06] <fritsch> ehasting: click on mouse
[07:06] <fritsch> ehasting: then the first entry
[07:06] <fritsch> ehasting: "One Click for Opening Files and Folders"
[07:06] <ehasting> okay.. i feel stupid.. i have checked everything except mouse :P
[07:06] <fritsch> g-henna: what modell is this?
[07:06] <fritsch> g-henna: this is a really sucking model
[07:06] <ehasting> thanks.. i see it clearly now... *slap his hand onto his head*
[07:06] <g-henna> i know i built a "custom dsdl" for this because of the buggy bios. is it possible this is a problem since dual-channel mode is now activated?
[07:07] <g-henna> fritsch: acer travelmate 4602 wlmi
[07:07] <fritsch> g-henna: wait ill ask google
[07:08] <fritsch> g-henna: did you change anything in bios?
[07:08] <bigbill52a> my question: kdm hung and would not start kde..it just kept coming back to the log in window...any ideas?
[07:08] <g-henna> wheee, it still lives; the boot process continues *lol*
[07:09] <fritsch> g-henna: what parameters?
[07:09] <g-henna> fritsch: i didn't; my bios is very minimal; it is possible this guy at the pc store did something, but actually you cannot change much at all...
[07:09] <g-henna> it's now at "loading manual drivers"
[07:09] <fritsch> g-henna: what kernel version? dapper?
[07:09] <fritsch> g-henna: ah and what boot parameters
[07:10] <g-henna> dapper and i believe 2.6.15-**-686
[07:10] <fritsch> g-henna: working now?
[07:10] <g-henna> fritsch: and noapictimer ec_burst=1 plus the last set of parameters you proposed to mee
[07:10] <g-henna> and no, it's still not working
[07:11] <gan|y|med> anybody here using initng?
[07:11] <gan|y|med> anybody here using initng?
[07:11] <gan|y|med> sorry for posting twice
[07:12] <g-henna> fritsch: you think i should try a bios update?
[07:16] <fritsch> g-henna: you have too much parameters now
[07:16] <fritsch> g-henna: just try only noapic and nolapic
[07:16] <fritsch> g-henna: and of course the other default one
[07:17] <fritsch> g-henna: acpi=off is very senceless for a laptop
[07:17] <g-henna> fritsch: which other default one? you mean noapictimer and ec_burst=1?
[07:17] <gan|y|med> caio
[07:17] <gan|y|med> ciao
[07:17] <fritsch> g-henna: just use the ones from ubuntu, + noapic nolapic
[07:18] <fritsch> g-henna: we have to fight to keep acpi enabled
[07:18] <g-henna> fritsch: AE_NO_MEMORY
[07:19] <noritsu> hallo
[07:19] <g-henna> i should maybe try to temporarily remove my custom dsdt
[07:19] <fritsch> g-henna: wargh! yes, of course
[07:19] <fritsch> g-henna: why do you use it?
[07:19] <fritsch> g-henna: please take the original
[07:20] <fritsch> g-henna: or did you just fix compilation errors?
[07:20] <g-henna> fritsch: i use it since if not, the battery status cannot be shown
[07:20] <fritsch> g-henna: ah okay!
[07:20] <fritsch> g-henna: perhaps do a bios upgrade to latest version
[07:20] <fritsch> g-henna: perhaps they fixed dsdt
[07:20] <fritsch> g-henna: but running a laptop with acpi=off, not good
[07:21] <g-henna> ok
[07:22] <g-henna> now... rather try first upgrading bios or removing custom dsdt?
[07:22] <fritsch> g-henna: remove custom dsdt
[07:22] <fritsch> g-henna: ubuntu should know smart batteries i think
[07:22] <swanfl> why do I get this error message periodically in ktorrent "too many open files" ?
[07:23] <swanfl> why do I get this error message periodically in ktorrent "too many open files" ?
[07:25] <otaku-san> hey does anyone know of a repo with mozilla thunderbird on it?
[07:25] <bigbill52a> What is this error..I just got it while installing ubuntu-desktop....** (process:24730): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed
[07:25] <Bazzi> thunderbird should be in main :)
[07:27] <raul_> hola
[07:27] <interfear> hrm.. could someone tell me some advantages of kubuntu over ubuntu?
[07:27] <interfear> i think im starting to not like gnome
[07:27] <interfear> thinking about kubuntu
[07:27] <otaku-san> Bazzi: odd...I thought so.  it's giving me the message on konsole that means it knows of the pack but I don't have the right repo...which is even more odd since I have every repo from here and beyond
[07:27] <g-henna> interfear^: you have kde instead of gnome :-)
[07:27] <usuario> Hello to all howto install qt3??
[07:27] <Bazzi> kubuntu is just ubuntu with KDE, interfear nothing more fancy added to it
[07:27] <interfear> hrm.. ok
[07:27] <interfear> i do like konquerer soo much more
[07:28] <KaiHanari> interfear, there are no advantages. its purely prefrence. KDE is just as good as Gnome, stuff is just in different places
[07:28] <g-henna> i mean, i have no gnome experience, but i think one thing i love about kde is that everything is so nicely integrated
[07:28] <KaiHanari> and it looks different
[07:28] <interfear> yeh
[07:28] <soulrider> g-henna: me too
[07:28] <fritsch> g-henna: working?
[07:28] <interfear> ok so i wanna get kubuntu 6.06.1 right?
[07:29] <soulrider> yesterday i ordered a kuibuntu CD from shipit :D
[07:29] <g-henna> fritsch: still trying to get a live cd to be able to remove that thing from my ext3 root fs...
[07:29] <otaku-san> interfear: well you don't have to completely reinstall ubuntu
[07:29] <interfear> i dont have ubuntu installed on this pc
[07:29] <interfear> this is gonna be fresh
[07:30] <otaku-san> interfear: ahhhh I see I thought you were on ubuntu just wanting to change
[07:30] <otaku-san> soulrider: that's cool man!  That's how I got my live cd
[07:30] <g-henna> fritsch: you're still here for a while?
[07:31] <interfear> i have ubuntu on my other pc
[07:31] <soulrider> i enver ordered from it
[07:31] <interfear> so 6.06.1 is the latest right?
[07:31] <fritsch> g-henna: i`ll try too
[07:31] <soulrider> i hope it gets soon :P
[07:31] <ubuntu> hello?
[07:31] <soulrider> how long did it take for you?
[07:31] <fritsch> g-henna: to ;-)
[07:31] <g-henna> ok, thx
[07:31] <farid> took 4 weeks to get the Kubuntu
[07:31] <soulrider> hi Ubuntu, you should consider changing you nick by typing /nick < new name >
[07:32] <ubuntu> hello?I have just installed Kubuntu and would like to know how switch windows using the 3d stlye gui
[07:32] <soulrider> replace < new name > with your new nick
[07:32] <Dasnipa`> 3d style gui?
[07:32] <g-henna> i wonder... can i write to ext3 with ext2ifs?
[07:32] <otaku-san> soulrider: it may take awhile for it to get to you thru shipit.  Mine took about 6 weeks
[07:33] <ubuntu> you know...the XLG
[07:33] <abattoir> ubuntu: xgl :)
[07:33] <abattoir> !xgl > ubuntu
[07:33] <abattoir> ubuntu: read the links ubotu gave you
[07:33] <soulrider> otaku-san:  where are you from ?
[07:34] <otaku-san> g-henna: this is a guess but because ext3 has hierarchy with ext2 you probably can
[07:34] <ken007> thankx
[07:34] <interfear> 6.06.1
[07:34] <abattoir> ken007: just to confirm, http://en.opensuse.org/Image:Movie-cube.jpg is what you mean, right?
[07:34] <interfear> ?
[07:34] <otaku-san> soulrider: hehe central of north america
[07:34] <soulrider> i hope it doenst take longer for me :P
[07:34] <ken007> just looking...one mo
[07:35] <ken007> yup, that's the bunny!
[07:36] <otaku-san> g-henna: meaning ext3 can read from ext2's
[07:36] <ken007> is it easy to install?
[07:36] <abattoir> ken007: are you completely new to linux?
[07:38] <ken007> yes
[07:38] <ken007> first time today
[07:38] <g-henna> btw, why is it that i always hear kubuntu is so slow compared to other distros?
[07:38] <rx_> hmm kynaptic isnt part of default kubuntu6
[07:38] <soulrider> !seen tk
[07:38] <ubotu> I last saw tk (i=tk@211.169.134.235) 2h 46m 19s ago, quiting: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)
[07:39] <abattoir> ken007: well, then you might find it a bit hard... its really a matter of getting used to 'the linux way' really...
[07:39] <soulrider> thanks :)
[07:39] <ken007> oh!
[07:39] <soulrider> O.O i got a 4 second ping
[07:39] <ken007> I will try to read some more
[07:39] <fritsch> g-henna: not true, defenitely
[07:40] <abattoir> ken007: i'd suggesting putting it at the end of the list... things like enabling support for restricted formats, making sure all your peripherals work, etc., could come before that :P
[07:40] <g-henna> i have no experience with other distros, with the same software as my current kubuntu, that's why i cannot say myself
[07:40] <fritsch> g-henna: i used debian 5 years long
[07:40] <g-henna> but for example my boot and shutdown time is... well, is actually more than i'd like to accept
[07:40] <ken007> Im currently running off the CD to see if I like it
[07:41] <fritsch> g-henna: one day, a dist-upgrade wanted to take me gimp, i stopped my unstable experience
[07:41] <ken007> but thanks for your help anyway....
[07:41] <fritsch> g-henna: you can disable the fsck default check
[07:41] <abattoir> ken007: ok, if you like it, installation is the first step :)
[07:41] <ken007> ...the link you sent is that for the source code?
[07:41] <fritsch> g-henna: you can use suspend
[07:41] <fritsch> g-henna: etc.
[07:42] <ken007> :) thanks!
[07:42] <abattoir> ken007: nope, its a link to a guide... most of the stuff you need is already in the repository, you'd need to install drivers for your graphics card though
[07:42] <abattoir> ken007: which card?
[07:42] <g-henna> i had the hope that my new ram will boost everything up a little... :-)
[07:43] <fritsch> g-henna: ah! new ram
[07:43] <ken007> erm, dunno! I ts an old Dell
[07:43] <fritsch> g-henna: i think your dsdt does not match your ram size?
[07:43] <fritsch> g-henna: possible?
[07:43] <ken007> onboard g/card
[07:43] <abattoir> ken007: from what i understand, you'd need a card w/ H/w 3-d acceleration
[07:43] <draik> anyone here using VMWare?
[07:43] <fritsch> draik: me
[07:44] <g-henna> i actually said that i upgraded ram and whether it is possible that my dsdt doesn't like that :-)
[07:44] <fritsch> g-henna: okay :-)
[07:44] <ken007> ok, I will check later
[07:44] <draik> fritsch, can VMWare Player use the original *.tar.bz2 file?
[07:44] <ken007> oh, where is the repository?
[07:44] <fritsch> draik: i installed vmware-server + server console from tar.bz
[07:44] <fritsch> draik: do`nt know about the player
[07:45] <fritsch> draik: but last time i tried to install, the player did not install cleanly, i think
[07:45] <draik> I have the SUSE 10.1 tar.bz2 file, but I don't know if that will play on the VMWare Player
[07:45] <fritsch> g-henna: sorry for "not reading this fact"
[07:45] <fritsch> draik: no, you have a suse rpm or a tar.bz2 install file
[07:45] <fritsch> draik: ah okay
[07:45] <abattoir> !repositories > ken
[07:45] <draik> I have the tar.bz2
[07:46] <fritsch> draik, did you download the kde demo?
[07:46] <abattoir> !repositories > ken007
[07:46] <g-henna> fritsch: are you going online via your university?
[07:46] <fritsch> draik: suse 10.1 kde demo?
[07:46] <fritsch> g-henna: yes
[07:46] <ken007> yesy
[07:46] <ken007> thanks
[07:46] <fritsch> Draik you have to extract this file first
[07:46] <draik> I downloaded the image for the VMWare Player
[07:46] <fritsch> draik: tar xvjf Filename.tar.bz2
[07:46] <abattoir> ken007: repositories are basically places online which have a collection of various software that you'd need
[07:46] <fritsch> draik: yes unpack, after that you can play it in the player
[07:46] <fritsch> draik: it uses very much space
[07:47] <draik> fritsch, I was using jzvf... I will try with xvjf now
[07:47] <ken007> ok
[07:47] <fritsch> draik: z ist for gzip, but it s packed bzip
[07:48] <draik> fritsch, thank you. Its working its magic
[07:48] <fritsch> draik: not magic, i hope you have got enought free disk space
[07:49] <draik> so once I have it unpacked, then I can point the player to the location and it will be all set, correct?
[07:49] <fritsch> draik: it needed nearly 1,4 gb
[07:49] <draik> I do
[07:49] <fritsch> draik: correct
[07:49] <draik> 22GB partition, 4.5GB available... good enough?
[07:50] <fritsch> draik: mmmh, ok, i think
[07:50] <draik> general question for everyone, will Kubuntu recognize a full 750GB hdd?
[07:50] <fritsch> draik: why not?
[07:51] <fritsch> draik: how is it formated? ntfs?
[07:51] <g-henna> fritsch: are there any advantaged concerning the speed of the system if i compare a clean dapper install to a breezy install upgraded to dapper?
[07:51] <fritsch> draik: reading really sould be no problem
[07:51] <ken007> thanks for your help abattoir
[07:51] <fritsch> g-henna: yes
[07:51] <ken007> much apprieciated
[07:51] <draik> fritsch, I was just wondering if I would have to do something for a huge drive.
[07:51] <fritsch> g-henna: breezy uses perhaps some old libs, you get perhaps trashed up your system
[07:51] <fritsch> g-henna: i would suggest reinstalling
[07:51] <abattoir> ken007: no problem :)
[07:52] <fritsch> draik: is it one!! only one hd with 750 gb?
[07:52] <draik> I saw a 750GB at a local computer store and just wanted to make sure that I would be all set if and when I purchase the drive
[07:52] <JakubS> omg, this must be my lucky day
[07:52] <Grom123__> bonsoirs !
[07:52] <JakubS> for the first time i managed to get suspend to disk and to ram working on my laptop
[07:52] <draik> fritsch, yes. one drive
[07:52] <Grom123__> you are english ?
[07:52] <Tear> anybody know how to change display settings
[07:52] <abattoir> Grom123__: yes, this is an intl. channel
[07:52] <draik> I think that by December they might release the 1TB (1000GB)
[07:52] <abattoir> !fr
[07:52] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:52] <JakubS> using git snapshot of libata-dev#upstream
[07:52] <Grom123__> oupss ^^
[07:52] <Grom123__> i am  french
[07:52] <abattoir> Grom123__: you can find french help there :)
[07:53] <Grom123__> i am a bad level in english ^^
[07:53] <Grom123__> very
[07:53] <Grom123__> :$
[07:54] <fritsch> c est ne pas un probleme
[07:54] <Grom123__> lool
[07:54] <Grom123__> ah la c'est mieu ^^
[07:54] <fritsch> Grom123__: my french level is at least as bad
[07:54] <Grom123__> least ?
[07:54] <draik> fritsch, about how long is the unpacking going to take?
[07:55] <g-henna> fritsch: i fear my system is too intelligent for me. i renamed the /etc/mkinitramfs/DSDT.aml to ~0ds9dt.aml~ and the boot process still tells me: "Info: Table [DSDT]  replaced by host OS"
[07:55] <Grom123__> ok
[07:55] <fritsch> g-henna: mmh, just recreate your initram fs?
[07:55] <fritsch> g-henna: dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r`
[07:55] <Grom123__> good night
[07:55] <draik> fritsch, here is the drive from froogle http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=750GB+Hard+Drive&btnG=Search+Froogle
[07:55] <Grom123__> bye
[07:56] <abattoir> Grom123__: bye :)
[07:57] <fritsch> draik: very, very expensive?
[07:57] <fritsch> draik: you could get 3 250gb for this price?
[07:57] <draik> true
[07:57] <fritsch> draik: 4?
[07:57] <draik> I have 2 250GB hdd atm
[07:58] <fritsch> draik: not enough?
[07:58] <fritsch> draik: get a 3rd one and you software raid
[07:58] <draik> I wish I could run my desktop from a server
[07:58] <draik> I'm a packrat
[07:59] <draik> I do my backups and free up space, but there are times when I just save too many pictures, songs, funny videos, etc on my hdd
[07:59] <fritsch> draik: it do this
[07:59] <fritsch> draik: have a cool server, and just sitting on my laptop
[08:00] <draik> I wish that I could have one 1TB HDD just for Kubuntu and then a server to save everything
[08:00] <rx_> hey
[08:01] <rx_> i cannot find kynaptic in univerise,multiverse...
[08:01] <fritsch> draik: mmmh no
[08:01] <draik> apps, games, etc on the Kubuntu HDD, but then pix, vids, songs, etc on the server
[08:01] <fritsch> draik: 1 TB Kubuntu server, and a very, very silent desktop
[08:01] <g-henna> fritsch: ok, the main prob is done, i come past the critical point
[08:01] <fritsch> g-henna: cool :-)
[08:01] <draik> brb
[08:01] <fritsch> g-henna: working?
[08:01] <g-henna> fritsch: now i sit there with udevd-event[3038] : run_program: '/sbin/modprobe' abnormal exit
[08:02] <fritsch> g-henna: man, man
[08:02] <ramonv> !mp3
[08:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:02] <fritsch> g-henna: you compiled your own kernel? edited some initramfs scripts?
[08:02] <fritsch> g-henna: apt-get install linux-image-`uname -r` --reinstall
[08:02] <g-henna> nope
[08:03] <fritsch> g-henna: does it further boot?
[08:04] <g-henna> fritsch: i come till the notebook recognizes the touchscreen, then it hangs there for a while, i get some errors from atkbd.c, then some bluetooth stuff is loaded and there it is now and stays
[08:05] <fritsch> g-henna: perhaps, as you come from breezy
[08:05] <fritsch> g-henna: just make a clean new dapper install
[08:05] <fritsch> g-henna: debugging is very hard ...
[08:06] <fritsch> g-henna: we could do this online together
[08:06] <fritsch> g-henna: i have many improvent sources.list additions
[08:06] <g-henna> the installation of dapper?
[08:07] <fritsch> g-henna: for example suspend2 kernel, kde-354, amarok-1.4.1 etc.
[08:07] <fritsch> g-henna: cool managable with just apt-sources
[08:07] <g-henna> i had all of that running...
[08:07] <fritsch> g-henna: mmh bad :-(
[08:07] <fritsch> g-henna: for dapper there is no need to recompile the kernel
[08:08] <fritsch> g-henna: it works out of the box, with Bernard Blackhams suspend2 sources
[08:08] <fritsch> g-henna: even X600 sould work with oss drivers
[08:09] <g-henna> i had no problem with reinstalling if i hadn't installed so many stuff that was really tricky... oracle libs recently, vpn software... worked for weeks to get pptp working for vpn to my university... the modem drivers are commercial ones, if i have to do all that again... man, it could really kill me... :-(
[08:10] <g-henna> it slowly continues the boot process... it just loaded lp, scsi and audio drivers
[08:11] <fritsch> g-henna: mmmh that was very long
[08:11] <fritsch> g-henna: which university?
[08:11] <fritsch> g-henna: can`t you use vpnc?
[08:11] <g-henna> and... all for a ram update?!?! man, what`s that doing? i should maybe try to recompile the dsdt now for the new bios state.
[08:11] <fritsch> g-henna: yes! try recompiling now
[08:12] <fritsch> g-henna: or download a dsdt for you ram size
[08:12] <g-henna> fritsch: free university of berlin. they have two different vpns; the univ-wide vpn uses cisco vpn software and our math/cs department uses pptp crap
[08:13] <fritsch> g-henna: cisco vpn software, you do not have to use this
[08:13] <sorush2> what do I have to have installed to use the "run" command?
[08:13] <fritsch> g-henna: vpnc does the job
[08:18] <draik> fritsch, I'm back. So what would you recommend? Keep my 250GB hdd for Kubuntu and then run a server with 1TB+ for my backups?
[08:18] <ubuntu> #ubuntu-se
[08:19] <lmosher> Anyone here use a dvd authoring (dvd video) program, and if so which one?
[08:19] <tomaczec> hi
[08:21] <redwolf> hello
[08:21] <rkd> hi
[08:21] <redwolf> can any one help me figure something out
[08:21] <rkd> what?
[08:22] <redwolf> i'm haveing trouble getting micromedia flash player installed
[08:22] <tomaczec> i am using an AVM (Fritz!) Access Point and a AVM usb tongle... i installed capiutils and pppdcapiplugin. i am unsure what to select in /etc/isdn/capi.conf. any pointers?
[08:22] <rkd> redwolf: try sumething like automatix or easybuntu
[08:23] <rkd> *something
[08:23] <redwolf> ok were can find something like that
[08:23] <tomaczec> erm, well, i am talking about isdn via bluetooth here.
[08:23] <lmosher> redwolf, If you like I can point you to a guide that explains most installs you'll need to do. One sec.
[08:24] <redwolf> cool thank you
[08:24] <lmosher> automatix or easybuntu do a lot of these things for you, but I'm not a fan of that method personally
[08:25] <lmosher> redwolf, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper is the link. It also has info on how to install everything w/ automatix
[08:25] <redwolf> i'm sure it would help me out a lot considering i'm new on the kunbuntu
[08:25] <redwolf> *kubuntu
[08:25] <lmosher> redwolf, yeah that wiki covers just about all the basics from intalling flash to mp3 to video players.. etc etc etc
[08:26] <redwolf> cool thanks
[08:26] <tomaczec> anybody using capi via bluetooth?
[08:26] <lmosher> np, good luck. It's all really quite easy, 90% of the time it just tells you the apt-get package to install, but it has some settings and such. You can use automatix to install all this stuff for you, but the advantage of doing it yourself is you know how to do it in the future :P
[08:27] <lmosher> tomaczec, No idea, but what is capi? I'm curious.
[08:27] <archangel__> what are the p2p programs that can be installed easily with kubuntu?
[08:27] <tomaczec> lmosher, wait a sec... i will look it up
[08:27] <fritsch> Imosher: it is a special protocol to communicate with ISDN, a digital telephone in germay oder europe
[08:28] <tomaczec> fritsch, thx.
[08:29] <redwolf> ok thank for your help those that did help me but i need to run and thanks again for the help
[08:29] <tomaczec> fritsch, bzw. i guess this is an 'L' in lmosher not an 'I'. ;)
[08:29] <tomaczec> s/bzw/btw/
[08:29] <fritsch> lmosher: yes, sorry
[08:30] <fritsch> tomaczec: just wondered why tab completion did not work
[08:30] <fritsch> tomaczec: :-)
[08:30] <tomaczec> fritsch, do you use isdn via bluetooth?
[08:30] <lmosher> heh, cool. Good luck w/ that fritsch, sorry I'm clueless.
[08:30] <fritsch> tomaczec: no sorry
[08:31] <fritsch> tomaczec: try this: http://www.holtmann.org/linux/bluetooth/isdn.html
[08:31] <charles1952> Hello all...anyone willing to help an ABSOLUTE newbie to Linux/Kubuntu? ((Advanced user of MS OSs)
[08:31] <fritsch> tomaczec: or here: german from avm directly http://www.avm.de/de/Service/Service-Portale/Service-Portal/Linux_Fragen_an_die_Hotline/bluefritz_linux_neu.php?portal=Linux
[08:31] <tomaczec> fritsch, i fear i came already about this... but i will retry.
[08:32] <fritsch> tomaczec: oki
[08:32] <hexx> anyone here use the kbfx applet for the main menu?
[08:32] <fritsch> tomaczec: just plug it in
[08:32] <fritsch> tomaczec: after that check dmesg, if all went fine
[08:32] <fritsch> tomaczec: install cip tool
[08:33] <fritsch> tomaczec: ciptool is avaiable if you have installed bluez-utils
[08:34] <fritsch> tomaczec: so just do ciptool search and then go on as in the first link
[08:34] <tribe> hi there, i'm having some pc freezes after updating dapper and i don't know really where to start to look (logfiles etc), is there any tut or howto or something around?
[08:35] <Agios> could just be X freezing up. Several people have had problems like that.  Check ~/.xsession-errors
[08:35] <tomaczec> fritsch, already got it... cant connect to the AP
[08:35] <Agios> kernel messages can be found in your logs and with dmsg
[08:36] <fritsch> tomaczec: but you see it? the access point?
[08:36] <tomaczec> fritsch, yes.
[08:36] <tribe> thx Agios
[08:36] <fritsch> tomaczec: perhaps the access point needs to allow your client?
[08:36] <tomaczec> fritsch, and the AP works when connected from a windows box.
[08:37] <tomaczec> fritsch, how could i tell the AP to allow my box as client?
[08:37] <fritsch> tomaczec: mmmh: ciptool connect YOURHARDWAREADDRESS does not work?
[08:37] <fritsch> tomaczec: don`t know sorry
[08:38] <sorush2> !xgl
[08:38] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:38] <tomaczec> fritsch, myhardware address? wouldnt that be the hw-address of the AP?
[08:38] <fritsch> tomaczec: yes of course the one from the AP
[08:38] <sorush2> how do I setup the new xgl for ubuntu dapper?
[08:39] <tomaczec> fritsch, try this i get something like 'L2CAP cound not connect: permission denied'.
[08:39] <fritsch> tomaczec: you did with sudo?
[08:39] <fritsch> tomaczec: sudo ciptool connect
[08:40] <tomaczec> fritsch, nope.
[08:40] <fritsch> tomaczec: do it with sudo
[08:40] <fritsch> tomaczec: just try
[08:40] <tomaczec> fritsch, ok... will be back in 2mins (have to switch computers)
[08:42] <harmental> how can i restart samba?
[08:42] <fritsch> harmental: /etc/init.d/samba restart
[08:42] <visik7> sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[08:42] <harmental> tnx!
[08:42] <fritsch> harmental: with sudo, sorry
[08:42] <visik7> but why whould you do it ? samba doesn't need to be restarted for config changes
[08:43] <fritsch> visik7: if you change the port, it has to?
[08:43] <visik7> yes
[08:43] <harmental> ive just modified smb.conf
[08:43] <visik7> for this probably yes
[08:43] <tomaczec> fritsch, hooray... got a connection. thx a lot.
[08:43] <fritsch> tomaczec: no problem
[08:43] <visik7> harmental: not comletly sure
[08:43] <visik7> harmental: just check it with netstat
[08:45] <sorush2> !xgl
[08:45] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:46] <pavel_> Hi everyone
[08:46] <tomaczec> fritsch, ciptools connect/release works like charm... i was working on this for about 2 weeks. i am really grateful.
[08:47] <fritsch> tomaczec: you just did not have the permission to connect :-) your user did not
[08:47] <fritsch> tomaczec: sudo does this as root user
[08:48] <otaku-san> hey I'm trying to get a sound to play right in system notification.  If I play the file by itself it sounds good, but when it plays through sys notification it gets this "too loud for the speakers sound"!
[08:49] <yeti_> hi - i installed kubuntu on one of my pcs and now i'd like to install it on a second one. can i just copy the package directory (/var/cache/apt/packages or something like that) to the new pc to prevent kubuntu from reloading all the archives from the repositories?
[08:49] <pavel_> I have some problem: when I try to update KDE from 3.5.2 to 3.5.4 adept is going to delete kdelibs-bin. What can I do?
[08:49] <visik7> yeti_: yes you can
[08:50] <visik7> yeti_: if apt found packages in /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:50] <eamon> How can I get my "now playing" song in IRC using Amarok and Kopete IRC client?
[08:50] <visik7> yeti_: it doesn't redownload them
[08:50] <narvik86>  /media
[08:50] <yeti_> great. thanks.
[08:50] <fritsch> eamon: write a dcop script
[08:50] <visik7> :)
[08:50] <eamon> fritsch: You dont have one handy do you?
[08:50] <fritsch> no, sorry
[08:51] <eamon> visik7: How did you do that?
[08:51] <narvik86> eamon: / media
[08:51] <eamon> And it's Amarok not amaroK
[08:51] <eamon> :P
[08:51] <eamon> narvik86: Could you elaborate a little please?
[08:51] <visik7> eamon: write /media on the channel
[08:52] <narvik86> exactly
[08:52] <eamon> visik7: It didn't work :(
[08:52] <visik7> I use konversation
[08:53] <eamon> What client do you use?
[08:53] <rkd> it does work
[08:53] <visik7> konversation
[08:53] <rkd> konversation
[08:53] <eamon> Ahhh
[08:53] <eamon> I was using Kopete
[08:53] <visik7> I don't accomunate irc with IM
[08:53] <fritsch> this is cool :-)
[08:54] <visik7> I like 2 separated program for IM and Chat
[08:54] <fritsch> i just wanted to rewrite this feature
[08:54] <narvik86> visik7: good song :)
[08:57] <pavel_>  I have some problem: when I try to update KDE from 3.5.2 to 3.5.4 adept is going to delete kdelibs-bin. What can I do?
[08:58] <newbie_1000> how am I supposed to set up Adept's repositories?
[08:58] <Tm_T> pavel_: say yes to it
[08:58] <asimon> pavel_: kdelibs-bin was merged into kdelibs4c2a
[08:58] <Tm_T> pavel_: that's expected and just fine
[08:58] <Tm_T> as asimon said
[08:59] <newbie_1000> I can't download WINE. Something wrong with Adept.
[09:00] <sorush2> !xgl
[09:00] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:00] <rkd> newbie_1000: View->Manage Repositories
[09:01] <pavel_> when I di this I have an error and then I pressed OK and Adept terminated
[09:01] <newbie_1000> rkd: yes I know, but what to set? I tried enabling universe/multiverse but must have done it wrong.
[09:02] <asimon> pavel_: What error?
[09:02] <newbie_1000> rkd: how do I do it?
[09:02] <soulrider> !tk
[09:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:02] <soulrider> argh
[09:02] <soulrider> !seen tk
[09:02] <ubotu> I last saw tk (i=tk@211.169.134.235) 4h 10m 16s ago, quiting: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)
[09:03] <newbie_1000> rkd: lots of other packages not available.
[09:03] <ranunculoid> How do I get konversation to automatically shout out what I'm now playing in Amarok rathar than having to type /media every time the song changes?
[09:03] <pavel_> well, I don't remamber. I reinstall linux - after that adept didn't load because some packadge configure when adept fall down
[09:04] <Tm_T> ranunculoid: no idea, but I really hope you don't do it here
[09:04] <newbie_1000> rkd: can I reset Adepts repositories listing to the default?
[09:04] <fritsch> ranunculoid: i think we dont`t want to read it *G* every 2 minutes
[09:04] <soulrider> lol yea
[09:04] <ranunculoid> fritsch: It's not for you guys :P
[09:04] <rkd> newbie_1000: isn't there a Reset button? bottom-left?
[09:04] <ranunculoid> I was just testing it there :)
[09:04] <pavel_> I'll try it again now. Thank you.
[09:05] <newbie_1000> rkd: that resets to the way it was before I started messing with, before clicking apply. Not the defaults. I tried.
[09:05] <Tm_T> ranunculoid: anyway, you prolly have answers in #konversation
[09:06] <newbie_1000> rkd: so what are the defaults?
[09:07] <rkd> newbie_1000: open a terminal, grep deb /etc/apt/sources.list and paste it to me in a pm
[09:07] <declan> Anyone know the best place for help with apt?
[09:07] <fritsch> perhaps here :-)
[09:07] <newbie_1000> rkd: what's a pm?
[09:08] <declan> apt-get doesnt seem to connect at all
[09:08] <rkd> private message
[09:08] <rkd> /msg
[09:08] <asimon> newbie_1000: You can generate a sources.list file at http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:08] <declan> i have used different repos but it doesnt seem to work. Doesnt seem to be the repos; seems to be my connection?
[09:09] <bigbill52a> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kcontrol-autostart/+bug/49859
[09:09] <bigbill52a> may be the solution to the egg problem
[09:09] <newbie_1000> still, what's a pm?
[09:09] <stefan> hey, how do I make a boot floppy especially for kubuntu 6.06 dapper
[09:09] <fritsch> pm is a private message
[09:09] <fritsch> like rkd said
[09:09] <stefan> can you give instructions or a website, i can't find one
[09:10] <newbie_1000> how do I do that?
[09:10] <narvik86> click on nick :)
[09:10] <Parkotron> Has anyone managed to install KTorrent 2.0 on Dapper?
[09:11] <Tm_T> yes
[09:11] <stefan> for knoppix I use a smart bootmanager floppy, but with kubuntu he can't find my cdromdrives
[09:11] <asimon> Parkotron: On the ktorrent site is a dapper package: http://ktorrent.org/index.php?page=downloads
[09:11] <klarkin> good evening
[09:12] <Gingillo> hi
[09:12] <klarkin> cannot mount floppy at all on dapper kubuntu
[09:12] <stefan> i've tried to use iso-install, with earlier versions of kubuntu i did that way, but with kubuntu 6.06 it' doesn't work anymore
[09:12] <klarkin> anyone? :)
[09:12] <stefan> anyone? :)
[09:12] <Tm_T> stefan: sorry, no idea about it
[09:12] <narvik86> stefan: wait a second
[09:12] <stefan> ok
[09:12] <stefan> thx
[09:13] <Gingillo> i have a problem. When i try to install (or simply run by the cd) kubuntu, it stops sto "mounting root file system"
[09:13] <Tm_T> Parkotron: what about it?
[09:13] <declan> when i run apt-get update I get error "  301 Moved Permanently"
[09:14] <newbie_1000> asimon: what do you suggest I choose on that website?
[09:14] <Tm_T> good night ->
[09:14] <narvik86> gn8
[09:15] <Parkotron> Tm_T: I'm told the package conflicts with some .desktop file.
[09:15] <fritsch> Pakatron, this is okay
[09:15] <asimon> newbie_1000: Your architecture and kubuntu version (propably dapper), and then mark all 6 checkboxes :-)
[09:16] <fritsch> not okay, but dpkg -i --force-overwrite "manages" it
[09:16] <Parkotron> fritsch:  Ah, thanks. I figured the conflict wasn't serious, but I wasn't aware of the force-overwrite option.
[09:17] <newbie_1000> :asimon I save this file as /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[09:17] <narvik86> stefan: sorry, page that i wanted to acces is no longer available
[09:17] <fritsch> Parkotron: bad package in deed
[09:17] <asimon> newbie_1000: yes
[09:17] <newbie_1000> thanks
[09:18] <asimon> newbie_1000: You probably want those kubuntu.org repos too, for newer KDE version etc.
[09:18] <newbie_1000> asimon: ok
[09:18] <Gingillo_> hi
[09:18] <Gingillo_>  i have a problem. When i try to install (or simply run by the cd) kubuntu, it stops sto "mounting root file system"
[09:18] <Gingillo_> keyword:i have a problem. When i try to install (or simply run by the cd) kubuntu, it stops sto "mounting root file system"
[09:18] <Gingillo_> sorry
[09:19] <declan> Can anyone help with error "  301 Moved Permanently" when running apt-get? I'm using source-o-matic repos.
[09:21] <Gingillo> keyword:i have a problem. When i try to install (or simply run by the cd) kubuntu, it stops sto "mounting root file system"
[09:21] <narvik86> declan: sudo apt-get update? nothig else i cant figure out
[09:22] <declan> narvik: I'm using that command and it won't work. The connection is there, since I'm using ICQ and browsing with konqueror
[09:22] <declan> I've tried a few rep sources and get same error.
[09:23] <narvik86> declan: i don't have other ideas :/
[09:23] <Parkotron> fritsch: Thanks, again. KTorrent installed fine. I'm so glad to have DHT available. It speeds things up considerably for me.
[09:24] <declan> Narvik: no probs man; thanks for trying. Know where I might get some help?
[09:24] <robert_> stefan: software is asexual :P
[09:24] <robert_> 'it', not 'he' or 'she.'
[09:25] <fritsch> robert_: the kernel is a "he" ;-)
[09:25] <fritsch> robert_: just kidding
[09:26] <robert_> lmao
[09:26] <robert_> :P
[09:26] <soulrider> does anyone know how i can join two XviD files?
[09:26] <robert_> #$%T^E$%5
[09:26] <narvik86> declan: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=181012&highlight=301+Moved+Permanently same error
[09:26] <robert_> stupid keyboard sensativity
[09:26] <robert_> sometimes it's overly sensative, and sometimes it isn't sensative enough
[09:26] <robert_> wtf
[09:26] <declan> Narvik: thanks; I should have checked the forums.
[09:28] <narvik86> declan: where r u from? try to change first 2 letters
[09:28] <narvik86> declan: od address to another country
[09:28] <declan> Narvik: Im from Ireland and Ive tried ie and uk - same result
[09:29] <rkd> declan: try gb
[09:30] <narvik86> declan: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=181000&page=2&highlight=301+Moved+Permanently
[09:30] <ranunculoid> declan: Where in Ireland? (I'm Irish too)
[09:30] <stefan> robert in my world not :p
[09:31] <robert_> stefan: it's software is gender-less. trry to remember that :P
[09:31] <robert_> er
[09:31] <robert_> stefan: software is gender-less. trry to remember that :P
[09:31] <stefan> :-) who tell you that
[09:32] <declan> Im  from County Down (NIreland) hence the mixed UK and IE
[09:32] <robert_> stefan: you must be french, then.
[09:32] <zblach> anyone here familiar with kmobiletools?
[09:32] <stefan> belgian
[09:32] <robert_> ah
[09:32] <stefan> dutch
[09:32] <robert_> fun
[09:33] <robert_> anyway
[09:33] <stefan> narvik86: i can't boot cd's with my old pc
[09:33] <stefan> narvik86: normaly i can boot cd's when i first boot with floppy of smart bootmanager
[09:33] <stefan> but not with the kubuntu for some reason
[09:33] <stefan> he doesn't detect the cdromdrives
[09:34] <stefan> or she :p
[09:34] <robert_> stefan: would you say call a DVD male?
[09:34] <robert_> arg
[09:35] <stefan> ?
[09:35] <stefan> don't frustate in the world of freedom
[09:35] <stefan> rulez, always rulez
[09:35] <robert_> back later, running xchat, finally
[09:36] <stefan> so no solutions?
[09:37] <stefan> i've tried to find netboot, but isn't that stupid, if you've tried the cd, and also iso-install
[09:39] <j__> someone want to help me :-) w/ fglrx
[09:39] <stefan> with iso-install i got something like this : Error 13 : Invalid or unsupported excutable Format
[09:39] <stefan> at boot
[09:41] <declan> can someone please post a guaranteed working source list (preferably somewere near UK or Ireland) so I can rule that out of my investigations? Thanks.
[09:42] <declan> either PM me or use pastebin
[09:43] <farous> declan: did you try source-o-matic
[09:44] <declan> tried it, yeah
[09:44] <declan> having bit of a nightmare
[09:44] <farous> declan: netselect-apt
[09:44] <ranunculoid> declan: I pmed you with mine
[09:44] <farous> it will test the ubuntu repos and select the fastest for you
[09:45] <ranunculoid> I'm from Ireland so they should work for you
[09:46] <declan> farous: is that a code or website?
[09:46] <farous> declan: it is a package you install from the repos
[09:46] <farous> !info netselect-apt
[09:46] <ubotu> netselect-apt: Choose the fastest Debian mirror with netselect. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.ds1-5 (dapper), package size 7 kB, installed size 60 kB
[09:47] <farous> lol i think it should say ubuntu mirror
[09:47] <Gingillo> please help me, i am desperated. I can't install my copy of kubuntu because when the cd boots and i chose "Starto or install kubuntu" it stops to "mounting root file system," Please help me !
[09:48] <farous> hmm i currently have mistrust to the universe repos
[09:48] <intelikey>  * INIT: Entering runlevel: 9
[09:49] <declan> I have tried new ie sources and Im not getting 301 error anymore, but still no joy; connection just times out
[09:49] <bigbill52a> i fixed the eggs, now i just gotta figure out why kdm wouldnt load windows...
[09:49] <Gingillo_> help me... please help me, i am desperated. I can't install my copy of kubuntu because when the cd boots and i chose "Starto or install kubuntu" it stops to "mounting root file system," Please help me !
[09:50] <farous> intelikey: any idea if the universe repos have any sort of QC
[09:50] <narvik86> Gingillo_: tried alternate cd install?
[09:50] <Gingillo_> a
[09:50] <farous> Gingillo_: depending on you ram you might just need more ram for it do not know the min though
[09:50] <Gingillo_> i have 512 of ram
[09:51] <farous> do not think it is a prob then
[09:51] <narvik86> alternate cd?
[09:51] <sharkito> hello
[09:51] <Gingillo_> narvick86 what is alternate cd install?
[09:51] <intelikey> farous yeah probably some but no details on it.   there should be info on the ubuntu site
[09:51] <macconline> where are the splash???
[09:51] <narvik86> cd with text install and more custimizable install options
[09:51] <Gingillo_> should i download it? from where?
[09:52] <bigbill52a> you can see whats wrong at the start by pressing f6 and backspacing over quiet silent
[09:52] <narvik86> whre r u from?
[09:52] <Gingillo_> im italian
[09:53] <seafire> why my wi-fi work well whitout wep key and don't work when I encrypt my wi-fi router
[09:53] <bigbill52a> sometimes it is actually doing something..while you think it is stalled...
[09:53] <narvik86> http://na.mirror.garr.it/mirrors/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/6.06/ choose for you architecture
[09:53] <intelikey> !it
[09:53] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:54] <Gingillo_> thanks!
[09:54] <narvik86> np
[09:55] <farous> thanx intelikey was just wondering whay a package that search for the fastest Debian repos is in ubuntu multiverse !
[09:56] <intelikey> farous also note   universe != multiverse
[09:56] <farous> intelikey: sorry ment universe :)
[09:58] <intelikey> farous i hope you find the info on that and report it.  that shouldn't be in "ubuntu" repos unless it's patched for s/debian/ubuntu/g
[09:58] <declan> Can anyone help??
[09:58] <declan> Err http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security Release.gpg
[09:58] <declan>   Could not connect to security.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out
[09:58] <macconline> where are the splash???
[09:59] <farous> intelikey: will try it first to see how it work perhaps they just forgot to change the info on it
[10:00] <intelikey> farous i hope.
[10:06] <Generic> !kernel > me
[10:06] <Generic> !kernel > Generic
[10:07] <intelikey> tty24 [root#~]  find /usr -name 'python*' -exec rm -r '{}' \;
[10:07] <intelikey> tty24 [root#~]  find /usr -name 'perl*' -exec rm -r '{}' \;
[10:07] <intelikey> hehhe oops.
[10:08] <Ashex> what repository contains the 2.6.17 kernel source?
[10:09] <Ashex> !repository
[10:09] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:09] <Ashex> !easysource > Ashex
[10:09] <crimsun> the same repo that contains the 2.6.8.1, 2.6.10, 2.6.12, and 2.6.15 Ubuntu source
[10:09] <intelikey> Ashex edgy maybe
[10:10] <Sanne> Ashex: you can look for packages on packages.ubuntu.com
[10:10] <ranunculoid> Xine 1.1.1 cant play FLAC. The kubuntu repos haven't updated xine and kubuntu is hopeless at compiling... What can I do?
[10:10] <Ashex> ah, thanks Sanne
[10:10] <Ashex> just to inquire beforehand
[10:10] <Sanne> Ashex: you're welcome :)
[10:10] <intelikey> but shouldn't edgy help be in #ubuntu+1  ?
[10:10] <Ashex> would i run into any complications updating my kernel from dapper to edgy?
[10:11] <crimsun> ranunculoid: xine 1.1.1 _can_ play flacs. Are your flacs using id3 tags or something?
[10:11] <ranunculoid> no it can
[10:11] <ranunculoid> *cant
[10:11] <ranunculoid> It's a nkown bug
[10:11] <ranunculoid> aargh
[10:11] <farous> intelikey: ok confirmed where should i report that
[10:12] <farous> netselect and netselect-apt both search for the fasted Debian repos. netselect apt will overwrite the sources.list file to point to deb repos
[10:12] <intelikey> farous idk        crimsun might know
[10:13] <farous> ok thanx intelikey
[10:14] <intelikey> crimsun theres a debian package in ubuntu universe    that searches for fastest debian repos....    where should that be addressed ?
[10:14] <farous> am at launchpad.net now perhaps filing it as a bug
[10:15] <crimsun> intelikey: / farous: filed against the source package providing netselect-apt, please
[10:15] <farous> crimsun: at launchpad right
[10:15] <crimsun> farous: yes.
[10:15] <crimsun> netselect-apt |  0.3.ds1-8 | http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Packages
[10:15] <crimsun>  netselect |  0.3.ds1-8 | http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Sources
[10:15] <crimsun> so it would be filed against the netselect source package
[10:16] <farous> crimsun: i am new to this so will just need time to read how to do it properly
[10:16] <farous> at the site now
[10:16] <intelikey> farous there you have it.   thanks crimsun
[10:16] <farous> thanx intelikey and crimsun :)
[10:17] <intelikey> farous no thank you.
[10:18] <tomaczec> hi
[10:19] <intelikey> comma go ^
[10:19] <intelikey> :)
[10:19] <intelikey> tomaczec
[10:21] <tomaczec> forgot who helped me with capi/bluetooth... it now works! i am here from my new kubuntu machine via bluetooth/capi. :))
[10:22] <farous> intelikey: ah it was reported by another guy too
[10:23] <tomaczec> btw, had some trouble in using 'pon' needed to add 'usepeerdns' for dial in... like in 'pon isdn/<provider> usepeerdns'.
[10:23] <intelikey> good.    it's better to have two or three reports than to have none.
[10:25] <tomaczec> for the kubuntu crew -> when i throw in a dvd kubuntu tries to start totem, but that is not installed by default. np to me.
[10:29] <west-en> hall
[10:29] <intelikey> i have a stranger than fiction fact about X       as root i can "startx" and the rez is 800x600    or i can  "X &"   and the rez is 800x600  until i connect to it as user "blackbox -display :0"   then the rez changes to 1024x768    that can't happen can it ?
[10:30] <tomaczec> oops, it was not totem but Kaffein
[10:30] <intelikey> totem should be default. iirc
[10:31] <tomaczec> intelikey: but totem was not on my system.
[10:32] <tomaczec> and Kaffeine complains about 'gstreamer_part' not installed. that was this dvd issue.
[10:33] <MadRush>  whats the normal thing i want to add a kernel module to so its loaded automatically at boot time?
[10:33] <crimsun> append it to /etc/modules
[10:33] <MadRush> ty
[10:33] <crimsun> it->the name
[10:34] <intelikey> /etc/modules
[10:34] <intelikey> oh i lag.
[10:36] <bgrimm> Update: I believe it was a configuration problem on the router side (MAC address filter set to deny instead of allow). that is why iwconfig reported being associated, wpa_supplicant showed a negotiation and connect, but could not ping anything on the network.
[10:37] <tomaczec> well, now it got totem... but it complains about 'not having the right plugins'. bit hard to decide from this message what plugins would be needed?
[10:38] <intelikey> !media
[10:38] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[10:38] <intelikey> !multimedia
[10:38] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies | For multimedia applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications
[10:39] <intelikey> !dvd
[10:39] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:41] <tomaczec> intelikey: well, with all that links... i just want to play one dvd. the approach is to read all that material?
[10:43] <tomaczec> intelikey: if totem would say error#42 and you would say look at link #21 i'd say ok... but this mass of links is a bit of too much.
[10:44] <oem> fuck of
[10:46] <soulrider> hi everyone
[10:46] <MadRush> hello
[10:46] <soulrider> hi
[10:47] <soulrider> !seen tk
[10:47] <ubotu> I last saw tk (i=tk@211.169.134.235) 5h 54m 42s ago, quiting: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)
[10:47] <MadRush> if i screw up my fstab, and my machine ceases to boot, how do i get to a shell to fix it
[10:47] <HeXiOn> hello
[10:47] <soulrider> uhm, maybe use the lvie CD?
[10:47] <soulrider> and mount the partition where linux is locate
[10:47] <soulrider> d
[10:47] <soulrider> and then juste dit
[10:47] <soulrider> hi HeXiOn
[10:48] <MadRush> yeah i know i can use a live cd
[10:48] <HeXiOn> is there any way to make amarok to store the lyrics in the HDD, and read first there before downloading from the net??
[10:48] <MadRush> but i figure thatr takes longer than just dropping to a shell
[10:48] <MadRush> but im not familiar with how to get to a shell in kubuntu
[10:48] <MadRush> i used to have an older mandrake box that would complain when i had a bad entry, and conveniently force me to a shell, and id fix it..
[10:49] <MadRush> isnt there some kind of boot option i could give it to not go into a higher run level
[10:49] <soulrider> i dont know
[10:49] <fritsch> MadRush: single
[10:49] <soulrider> ive been usiong linux for less than 2 weeks :P
[10:50] <fritsch> MadRush: just use the recovery entry?
[10:50] <oem> sit house
[10:50] <fritsch> MadRush: from grub
[10:50] <MadRush> ok
[10:50] <MadRush> have you used that option before?
[10:50] <fritsch> MadRush: yes
[10:51] <MadRush> oh ok
[10:51] <fritsch> MadRush: what problem do you want to fix?
[10:51] <MadRush> bad line in fstab
[10:51] <MadRush> as in, a drive thats not physically there.
[10:51] <fritsch> MadRush: ah! then this wont probably help
[10:51] <MadRush> yeah?
[10:51] <intelikey> tomaczec sorry it took so long to answer.  no the approach is not to read tons of material, i don't have a dvd player so i can't help with dvd issues.   maybe someone else can.
[10:51] <fritsch> MadRush: boot from an CD and chroot into your box
[10:51] <fritsch> MadRush: after that change the line
[10:51] <MadRush> i just wanna get to a shell so i can sudo nano /etc/fstab
[10:52] <MadRush> what does recovery offer you, anyway?
[10:52] <fritsch> MadRush: which entry is false?
[10:52] <MadRush> eh im screwing with fstab (adding a sshfs entry) and id like to be prepared before i reboot
[10:52] <intelikey> i was searching for something that might indicate that yours was a common (and therefore addressed) issue.
[10:52] <fritsch> MadRush: it does not boot up futher? just stops?
[10:52] <fritsch> MadRush: ah okay! just be sure your / will mount okay
[10:52] <MadRush> last time i had a bad entry in fstab it complained and halted
[10:53] <MadRush> yeah it should mount no problemo.
[10:53] <fritsch> MadRush: if you / cannot be mounted then, no other way than halt
[10:53] <tomaczec> intelikey: np, it's a snowboard video... it can wait till winter. ;)
[10:53] <MadRush> hmm
[10:53] <MadRush> ok
[10:53] <fritsch> MadRush: just prepare a boot cd for being able to chroot
[10:53] <MadRush> yeah
[10:53] <oem> sit house
[10:53] <MadRush> ok then.
[10:54] <intelikey> madrush boot normal kernel but add   init=/bin/sh   to the kernel line.    [esc]    E    to edit the grub prompt....      you will have to remount root rw and manually remount it ro before you ctrl+alt+del  to get out.
[10:55] <intelikey> too late.
[10:55] <tomaczec> fritsch: you are that guy i was waiting for... i am here via bluetooth/isdn from my new kubuntu box due to your help. rox!
[10:55] <fritsch> intelikey: yes, in deed
[10:55] <fritsch> tomaczec: cool :-)
[10:55] <fritsch> tomaczec: i did not really do anything ;-)
[10:56] <intelikey> yeah   lagging is so much fun.
[10:56] <oem> sit house
[11:01] <mr_daemon> Hello there, just a quick question -- I just upgraded to kde 3.5.4 using the kubuntu feed
[11:01] <mr_daemon> And if I am to run something as root using, say, kdesu, the fonts will look crappy...
[11:01] <mr_daemon> While in my profile, they're fine
[11:02] <mr_daemon> Any ideas?
[11:02] <oem> sit house
[11:04] <Sanne> mr_daemon: I think you will have to configure the profile for the sudo user separately.
[11:05] <tomaczec> after installing kubuntu... what would be the password for 'root'?
[11:06] <tomaczec> cat /etc/passwd shows that this user exists.
[11:06] <alex_yo> how to chande the log in screen in kubuntu
[11:06] <Sanne> tomaczec: there is none, Kubuntu uses sudo with your user password.
[11:06] <alex_yo> how to change the log in screen in kubuntu
[11:07] <tomaczec> Sanne: but as said, there is a user in /etc/passwd... hence, for my guess, there must be a password for root.
[11:08] <Sanne> tomaczec: no, you use: "udo command" for administrative tasks, and give it your user password.
[11:09] <Sanne> tomaczec: just a sec, brb, then I'll find you a link that explains this
[11:09] <tomaczec> Sanne: and who do i fix 'quirks' in my account?
[11:10] <tomaczec> s/who do/how do/
[11:10] <txx2> Hello, does anyone know how I can make my KDE task program buttons the same as this? http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3822/244/1600/amarok_network.png
[11:11] <soulrider> i dont like how that looks :/
[11:12] <ccc__> txx2: hm, which buttons you mean?
[11:12] <txx2> ccc__,  the ones at the bottom, they are transparent
[11:12] <txx2> the buttons as in, the minimized programs
[11:13] <ccc__> txx2: right click the taskbar, choose configure panel > taskbar > appearance
[11:14] <txx2> ccc__,  I'm there, and I've already made my task bar transparent, but my minimized application buttons are still 100% visible
[11:14] <alex_yo> can somebody say how to change the login screen in kubuntu. i used one time ubuntu but i installed a week ago kubuntu. in ubuntu was a gnome display manager
[11:14] <connyosis> txx2: advanced and then tint amount I believe
[11:15] <txx2> connyosis,  Yes, I done that, and it only affects my task bars backround.
[11:16] <connyosis> txx2: hmm, my minimized apps are faded out, that's what you're looking for right?
[11:16] <txx2> connyosis,  yes
[11:18] <Sanne> tomaczec: the link I promised: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[11:18] <ccc__> i'm using taskbar v2 which does that by default. but i reckon it's the elegant/for transparency setting i mentioned... don't remember exactly.
[11:20] <txx2> ccc__,  when I make it transparent in appearance > advanced options > then set a transparent level, it only makes the background of the task bar trasnparent, nothing else.
[11:20] <Martijn81> heyyy, does anyone know a source where the kmyfirewall options are more explained?
[11:21] <ccc__> txx2: i was talking about taskbar > taskbar > appearance > "elegant" (or) "for transparency". i think standard is "classic"
[11:21] <nutshell42> Martijn81: I've never used it, but some apps hide a lot of info in the shift+f1 tooltips
[11:22] <nutshell42> I just connected a printer, configured it in the control center, it shows in the web interface, but I can't see it as user
[11:22] <Martijn81> thnx
[11:23] <nutshell42> Martijn81: only thank me if it actually helps ;)
[11:23] <Gh0st75> anyone know what a good video editor for linux i should try? i'm looking for something to break up and crimp avi and mpeg files
[11:24] <txx2> How would I install a "S3 graphics UniChrome Pro IGP" ?..
[11:26] <nutshell42> txx: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=86391
[11:26] <nutshell42> txx2: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=86391
[11:26] <nutshell42> argh, sry
[11:26] <txx2> That's ok, thanks for the link
[11:27] <txx2> nutshell42,  How would I go about instlaling this driver and remove VESA for it?
[11:27] <txx2> nutshell42,  opsey, found instructions
[11:29] <txx2> nutshell42,  This guide is expecting too much of me. I am a new comer to linux.
[11:30] <Gh0st75> some of the guides are a big over the head of newcomers like us, that's why channels like these help
[11:30] <Gh0st75> some people are working on more basic guides too
[11:31] <Gh0st75> wish i knew enough to be of more help, i need to start making notes on my learnings
[11:31] <nutshell42> txx2: try installing this package: xserver-xorg-driver-via
[11:31] <nutshell42> txx2: and then edit /etc/xorg.conf
[11:32] <nutshell42> txx2: search for the device section, and change the entry Driver from vesa to via
[11:33] <TheHighChild> Anyone know of a tutorial or app to encrypt web traffic?
[11:35] <nutshell42> Gh0st75: try avidemux; mencoder is the best solution probably but it's command line, although you should have no troubles finding tutorials
[11:35] <Gh0st75> thanks, will do some searching on avidemux
[11:38] <westjd> Why is access Denied when I try to create a new folder in my slave hard drive?
[11:38] <nutshell42> Gh0st75:  try apt-cache search avi editor or something like that for inspiration
[11:39] <nutshell42> I heard kino's a good app too, but I gather you want a stream editor not a NLE
[11:39] <nutshell42> westjd: can you do it with sudo?
[11:39] <Gh0st75> since i don't what NLE means, i can't say for sure, lol
[11:40] <Gh0st75> just wanna crop and trip some files to save space
[11:40] <nutshell42> nle=non-linear-editor/ing
[11:40] <nutshell42> it's for effects, music videos and stuff, think adobe premiere
[11:40] <Gh0st75> ah, not looking to tinker with effects
[11:40] <nutshell42> for your task mencoder should be the best tool, but ais it's command line
[11:40] <Gh0st75> i have little talent or interest in anything artistic :)
[11:41] <westjd> nutshell42: I don't know what sudo is.  What is that the acronym fore?
[11:42] <CylonSix> Is there a default root password for Kubuntu? The FAQ says no, but when using Konsole to access the root shell, it asks for a password and doesn't accept my user password.
[11:42] <CylonSix> Any ideas?
[11:44] <TheHighChild> CylonSix: what command are you using exactly?
[11:45] <TheHighChild> westjd: sudo means superuser do. It's to run a command as superuser but without entering a root shell
[11:45] <nutshell42> westjd: sudo's a command line program that gives you root access; press alt+f2 and enter: "kdesu konqueror" (without the quotes) then enter your password, that gives you a konqueror window with superuser rights (at least it should =)
[11:46] <TheHighChild> westjd: If you need to enter a root shell type 'sudo -i' then it will ask for your password. When you want to leave the root shell, type 'exit'
[11:46] <TheHighChild> Anyone know of a tutorial or app to encrypt web traffic?
[11:48] <wolfmanz> TheHighChild: you talking about from one machine to the internet or using one machine to go to another then to the internet?
[11:49] <TheHighChild> wolfmanz: I presume using the local machine to encrypt rather than attempting to force the desitination to encrypt would be a better idea. Just not sure what to look for to be honest
[11:49] <TheHighChild> wolfmanz: I'd like to do it locally so that plain-text traffic is not traveling the network
[11:50] <TheHighChild> I work in a pretty 1337 evironment without any safeguards. I don't want my packets sniffed
[11:51] <nutshell42> TheHighChild:  http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/VPN-HOWTO/
[11:51] <tapas> ok, i added some programs to the 6.06 live cd.. and booted into it
[11:51] <tapas> running any qt app now gives me: konqueror: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3: unexpected PLT reloc type 0x00
[11:51] <nutshell42> but both sides need to be part of it
[11:51] <tapas> [erm, that was konqueror obviously] 
[11:51] <nutshell42> it's not possible to just encrypt your traffic and it then becomes magically unencrypted somewhere
[11:51] <tapas> is it not ok, to install stuff from universe?
[11:52] <TheHighChild> thanks nutshell42
[11:52] <nutshell42> you need some kind of proxy
[11:52] <nutshell42> or other peer
[11:52] <nutshell42> that you can connect to over an encrypted connection that then forwards your requests
[11:53] <TheHighChild> Yeah, i guess I wasn't thinking it through. I just want to avoid plain text traffic on my network. It's not secure in any sense.
[11:53] <TheHighChild> but I also don't want my ISP to log my traffic either
[11:53] <ubuntu__> hi i've been using a dual boot winxp/kubuntu system, but yesterday I got "Error loading operating system" instead of the grub boot loader...on examining my hard drive after mounting it on a live cd, I noticed that my /boot/grub/grub.conf is missing- would this be the cause of the problems?
[11:53] <TheHighChild> ugh. I guess I'll have to wiat for IPV6
[11:54] <nutshell42> look for a proxy/anonymizer, but generally it's more trouble than it's worth
[11:54] <TheHighChild> ubuntu__: Yes, your grub.conf is where grub gets it's HD locations, You can reinstall it with the livecd though
[11:55] <wolfmanz> TheHighChild: if you worried about e-mail and the like encrypt it of course who ever is going to get that mail will have to decrypt it
[11:55] <TheHighChild> nutshell42: yeah, I've worked with privoxy a bit but it's dogslow.
[11:55] <westjd> is there any reason why my resolution isnt any better than 1024 x 768?
[11:55] <westjd> and it wont let me make it any better
[11:55] <ubuntu__> TheHighChild: I have Kubuntu 32 bit installed, but am using the Kubuntu AMD64 cd (cuz I cant find the other one)...does it matter if I use this CD to reinstall Grub?
[11:55] <nagyv> any ideas how to set up openoffice to open the links in firefox instead of konqueror? as I know Firefox is already set up as the default browser.
[11:55] <TheHighChild> wolfmanz: More so concerned about web searches and whatnot. i use keys with my email and such as is. I just want to surf safely and anonymously. Not tha tI'm doing anything bad. I just don't like how the internet is turning out in the US
[11:56] <TheHighChild> ubuntu__: yes it does
[11:56] <TheHighChild> ubuntu__: Well, actually, it may not. Better not take my word on this
[11:56] <ubuntu__> TheHighChild: crap
[11:57] <TheHighChild> ubuntu__: if you have a 64 bit CPU, which I presume you do. I don't think you'll have a problem
[11:57] <ubuntu__> TheHighChild- how would I reinstall grub then- hehe...sorry im still a newbie...
[11:57] <TheHighChild> ubuntu__: To reinstall grub 'sudo grub-install /install/location'
[11:58] <TheHighChild> ubuntu__: Aren't we all ;)
[11:58] <ubuntu__> TheHighChild- so I guess I have to mount my drives first right?
[11:58] <ubuntu__> hehe
[11:58] <TheHighChild> ubuntu__: You'll need to mount the partition where you want to install grub
[11:58] <ubuntu__> kk
[11:59] <westjd> I know my computer can do 1600 x 1200 why is kubuntu not letting me past 1024 x 768?
[11:59] <ubuntu__> TheHighChild- so in my case it would really be just hte harddrive that has kubuntu on it right- not the windows xp one
[11:59] <TheHighChild> westjd: It may not recognize the exact model of your monitor, also, make sure you can achieve that resolution with the refresh that is being tried
[12:01] <soulrider> hey everyone! im compiling kopete and its taking quite a while, is that normal ?
[12:01] <tapas> ugh
[12:01] <tapas> seems to be a glibc bug
[12:01] <tapas> grmbl
[12:01] <tapas> hot damn
[12:01] <Tm_T> soulrider: how long
[12:01] <tapas> why does this happen to me the night i need to ship a program to a client
[12:01] <soulrider> its been going for at least 5 minutes :P
[12:01] <ubuntu__> TheHighChild: is it possible to mount a partition just in terminal w/o changing files- since Im on a live CD right now?
[12:01] <TheHighChild> ubuntu__: 'grub-install /dev/hda' should work for you, BUT that's not for certain. are you using an IDE disk? just 1 of them?
[12:02] <soulrider> theres allways new text in the console
[12:02] <rictoo_> I whanna run an sh file (it IS there) but it says sh: setup.sh: No such file or directory
[12:02] <Tm_T> soulrider: err, that compiling will take 30 min easily
[12:02] <ubuntu___> hi all, i just installed windows on another partition and it of course wiped out grub. I've tried grub-install /dev/hda from the kubuntu cd and it says "could not find device for /boot: not found or not a block device."
[12:02] <soulrider> O.O
[12:02] <ubuntu__> TheHighChild- kubuntu is installed on /dev/sda1
[12:02] <soulrider> really?!
[12:02] <Tm_T> soulrider: yes, that's not even much
[12:02] <soulrider> this version of kopete better not crash like the last one
[12:02] <ubuntu___> can anyone help?
[12:02] <TheHighChild> ubuntu__ and where is windows installed?
[12:02] <Tm_T> soulrider: =)
[12:02] <ubuntu__> TheHighChild- /dev/hda1
[12:02] <sorush2> xgl is the best..
[12:03] <Tm_T> soulrider: what you're compiling? 0.12.2 ?
[12:03] <soulrider> yea
[12:03] <ubuntu___> at /hda2
[12:03] <rictoo_> I whanna run an sh file (it IS there) but it says sh: setup.sh: No such file or directory =/
[12:03] <soulrider> 0.12.1 would crahs as soon as it was opened
[12:03] <Tm_T> soulrider: interesting
[12:03] <ubuntu__> TheHighChild- except that the live cd hasnt recognized either drive at this point...
[12:03] <glick> excuse me how do i install guarddog firewall?
[12:03] <glick> its not in adept
[12:03] <tapas> ok, so it seems this might be a bit error in my image somewhere
[12:03] <tapas> phew
[12:04] <soulrider> more annoying than interesting :P
[12:04] <tapas> ok, starting all over again ;)
[12:04] <TheHighChild> ubuntu__ are they mounted?
[12:04] <Tm_T> soulrider: I hope you configured with --enable-debug switch
[12:04] <soulrider> eeerrrr
[12:04] <soulrider> nope
[12:04] <soulrider> whats that
[12:04] <Tm_T> :(
[12:04] <ubuntu__> TheHighChild- not yet- dont know how to at this point...
[12:04] <westjd> TheHighChild: I am only at 60 Hz, I had unbuntu on this and it was allowing 1600 by 1200, what can I do gain such resolutions?
[12:05] <Tm_T> well, if you have more problems, with that we may be able to track the bug down
[12:05] <Tm_T> without it it's pretty impossible
[12:05] <TheHighChild> westjd: The way i do it is to edit the xorg.conf file. This isn't a good idea if you're not familiar with what you're doing. I would suggest checking out the forums and the wiki for a starter guide
[12:06] <glick> what repo is guarddog in?
[12:06] <martamius> can anyone help me with restoring grub after a windows install?
[12:06] <TheHighChild> ubuntu__: Hopefully this may help you a bit http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42030
[12:07] <nutshell42> westjd: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml
[12:07] <TheGateKeeper> glick: you need to enable the universe repo: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories
[12:07] <TheGateKeeper> !repos > glick
[12:07] <jinho> TheHighChild- thanks (changed my name from ubuntu_ to jinho)
[12:08] <TheHighChild> jinho: Thanks, the underscores were annoying. lol
[12:08] <martamius> can anyone help me with restoring grub after a windows install? grub-install isn't working
[12:08] <jinho> TheHighChild: lol