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| troy_s | bersace: Nope. | 01:43 |
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| troy_s | bersace: And Gnome's svg rendering has issues at times with certain elements as far as I know. | 01:43 |
| bersace | :( | 01:43 |
| troy_s | Trying to get the bloody SVG icons sorted out it tough enough... | 02:24 |
| troy_s | Perhaps once we have a decent SVG renderer it is an option. | 02:24 |
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| msikma | Hmm | 11:09 |
| msikma | I need to figure out how to do cool light effects like here: http://www.ruudbaan.com/ (it's a flash site, choose "publ" and then "publ15", then the picture almost at the bottom) | 11:09 |
| msikma | That looks totally wallpaper-savvy | 11:10 |
| Madpilot | msikma, the one with the green glows? | 11:11 |
| msikma | Yeah | 11:12 |
| Madpilot | Fyre | 11:12 |
| msikma | Nah | 11:12 |
| msikma | From what I've seen, Fyre doesn't look nearly as cool as that | 11:12 |
| msikma | Besides, I don't really believe in auto-generated effects... | 11:12 |
| msikma | Maybe as a base for (lots) of manual editing, though | 11:13 |
| Madpilot | start in Fyre, for the lines, import to GIMP to add the glow, I guess | 11:13 |
| Madpilot | Fyre is a massive CPU hog... | 11:13 |
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| fschoep | troy_s: ping | 11:34 |
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| PingunZ | hi I made a mockup for usplash :: http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=3279&cat=500 | 11:49 |
| PingunZ | its for a high resolution wich should be possible in the newest kernels | 11:49 |
| Madpilot | wow - was going to ask if the usplash could do that many colours :) | 11:50 |
| fschoep | I think the boot text is going to disappear for Edgy so you don't really need to have a text area anymore, Madpilot may be right about the colors :) | 11:51 |
| PingunZ | no it will be possible from the kernel : 2.6.17.6 if I'm right ( the colors ) | 11:51 |
| PingunZ | the text can go ;) | 11:51 |
| PingunZ | I got it in layers so .. | 11:51 |
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| PingunZ | the background is just a picture I like | 11:52 |
| fschoep | I see, it looks vibrant :) | 11:52 |
| PingunZ | what is vibrant ? | 11:53 |
| PingunZ | ( I'm not really good in englsih ;) ) | 11:53 |
| PingunZ | *english | 11:53 |
| fschoep | Vibrant means that the colors are very lively, vivid - they are really saturated. Does that help? | 11:57 |
| PingunZ | yes ;) | 11:57 |
| fschoep | OK, great :) | 11:57 |
| PingunZ | So .. I'm going to try to realize this usplash. Now where can I get advanced guide for making usplash' ? | 11:58 |
| fschoep | The best page until now (for "older" usplashes) is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto | 11:59 |
| PingunZ | hmm | 11:59 |
| PingunZ | but is there any way I can move the text / dont display the text / use a progress bar with a different shape ? | 12:00 |
| fschoep | Not in that tutorial, which is based on the old usplash code. | 12:01 |
| PingunZ | hmm | 12:01 |
| fschoep | I haven't seen any good details on the new one yet, and it seems it's not yet in Edgy so it's also kind of hard to test. | 12:01 |
| PingunZ | I'll need to find another tutorial then | 12:01 |
| fschoep | Scott (James Remnant) demoed the new code to me back in Paris, but that was more of a demo setup than the real Edgy code. | 12:01 |
| PingunZ | ok next question. I'm going to make an animated splash screen --> like xubuntu | 12:01 |
| PingunZ | any guides for that ? | 12:01 |
| fschoep | Splash screen from the login manager? | 12:02 |
| PingunZ | yes | 12:02 |
| fschoep | OK, I'll try to Google for it :) | 12:02 |
| PingunZ | thanks ;) | 12:02 |
| PingunZ | and is there any guide to make a good login screen, smart coded so it loads quickly | 12:02 |
| fschoep | Wow, that's a lot of questions! | 12:03 |
| PingunZ | I know sorry, I'm going to make a whole team | 12:03 |
| PingunZ | myself -_- | 12:03 |
| PingunZ | never made a team before | 12:03 |
| fschoep | No problem, you're welcome :) | 12:03 |
| PingunZ | *theme | 12:03 |
| PingunZ | lol | 12:03 |
| fschoep | If there are any good tutorials on those subjects I think I'd have found them by now since we're interested in this stuff for the artwork team as well. | 12:03 |
| PingunZ | well if I find results I'll let you know | 12:04 |
| fschoep | By the way, would you enjoy helping out with Edgy's artwork? You could join the mailing list if you have some spare time. | 12:04 |
| PingunZ | I tried that before | 12:04 |
| fschoep | You did? | 12:04 |
| PingunZ | but .. you hget lots of mails and I didnt know what to do with them | 12:05 |
| PingunZ | yes | 12:05 |
| fschoep | Hehe, I can imagine it's kind of confusing in the beginning. | 12:05 |
| fschoep | Do you remember when you joined the list? | 12:05 |
| PingunZ | it really is | 12:05 |
| PingunZ | hmm | 12:05 |
| PingunZ | 6 months ago | 12:05 |
| fschoep | So that was during the Dapper cycle? | 12:05 |
| PingunZ | I can easily find that out | 12:05 |
| PingunZ | yes | 12:05 |
| fschoep | Can you explain a bit what confused you the most? The amount of mails, the subject, the lack of direction? | 12:06 |
| fschoep | I'm asking since I'm now kind of the Artist in Chief for Ubuntu and as such I'm involved in coordinating the mailing list. | 12:07 |
| PingunZ | well, I got tonns of mails --> I didnt know where to start so I didnt read them | 12:07 |
| PingunZ | :s | 12:07 |
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| fschoep | So, the amount of mails was the main problem :) ? | 12:07 |
| PingunZ | yes | 12:08 |
| PingunZ | I also didnt know how to submit things .. | 12:08 |
| fschoep | Submit things, as in send in artwork, or as in sending e-mails to the list? | 12:08 |
| PingunZ | send in artwork, icons, ... | 12:08 |
| PingunZ | btw, normally I dont create icons/etc on my own I just modify them | 12:09 |
| fschoep | That's also important, trying variations on existing things. | 12:09 |
| PingunZ | well I'm kinda goods in that | 12:10 |
| PingunZ | but I only use photoshop .. | 12:10 |
| fschoep | If you would like to give it another try for Edgy, I'd appreciate that. | 12:10 |
| PingunZ | cant work with gimp | 12:10 |
| PingunZ | well I would like, really | 12:10 |
| fschoep | Photoshop is no problem if you're creating variations. | 12:10 |
| PingunZ | btw :: check out my desktop, http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=3216&cat=2 | 12:10 |
| fschoep | We've got a lot of talented people using Photoshop on the list. | 12:10 |
| PingunZ | thats what I'm basing the theme on I'm making | 12:10 |
| PingunZ | I'm not talented .. | 12:11 |
| PingunZ | I just know my way around in photoshop | 12:11 |
| fschoep | That's good though! | 12:11 |
| PingunZ | and I have lots of ideas --> mockups .. | 12:11 |
| fschoep | Shall I give you some links for information on how we are doing artwork for Edgy now so you can easily blend in on the mailing list? | 12:12 |
| PingunZ | yeah fine | 12:12 |
| fschoep | OK, hang on - | 12:12 |
| PingunZ | but atm I dont use any of the standard artwork so .. | 12:12 |
| fschoep | We'll try to change that :) | 12:12 |
| PingunZ | I could make a xgl theme for ubuntu --> I'm kinda good in xgl themes | 12:13 |
| PingunZ | brb | 12:13 |
| fschoep | PingunZ: If you read through this page and it's links, you'll have a good idea of what process we're using for artwork in Edgy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/EdgyArtworkPlan | 12:13 |
| fschoep | There's a lot of info on there, but it gives a solid background for the mailing list. | 12:14 |
| PingunZ | ok | 12:14 |
| PingunZ | I'll be back in 5 mins | 12:14 |
| fschoep | OK | 12:14 |
| PingunZ | b | 12:17 |
| PingunZ | hmmm | 12:20 |
| PingunZ | thats really a lot of text for me | 12:20 |
| PingunZ | ( non-english ) | 12:20 |
| PingunZ | btw fschoep, nl ? be ? | 12:21 |
| fschoep | NL | 12:21 |
| PingunZ | das handig | 12:21 |
| PingunZ | pm ? lots easier for me in dutch | 12:21 |
| fschoep | OK | 12:21 |
| msikma | "fschoep: I think the boot text is going to disappear for Edgy so you don't really need to have a text area anymore, Madpilot may be right about the colors :)" | 01:37 |
| msikma | I sure hope so! | 01:37 |
| msikma | What are the specs of that "new" usplash with higher resolution? | 01:38 |
| msikma | Also... I didn't know you were dutch. :) | 01:38 |
| msikma | Oh wait, he's gone | 01:38 |
| msikma | %$!@#$#!@ | 01:38 |
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| viper550 | Anyone here? | 02:50 |
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| msikma | So I've been experimenting with those light effects for some time and here's what I've come up with so far: http://www.gamingw.net/pubaccess/28695/light-test.png | 03:01 |
| msikma | I think that it definitely holds potential | 03:02 |
| msikma | Not nearly as nice as in the photo, though. | 03:02 |
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| msikma | Hi PingunZ | 05:08 |
| PingunZ | hi msikma | 05:08 |
| PingunZ | I just added myself to the artwork team on launchpad :) | 05:09 |
| PingunZ | do I have to do something else ? or is this enough ? | 05:09 |
| msikma | Hmm! | 05:18 |
| msikma | I'm not all that knowledgeable on the process actually. But I think there's a wikipage you might want to add yourself to as well | 05:18 |
| msikma | Have you signed up for the mailing list? | 05:19 |
| PingunZ | not yet | 05:20 |
| troy_s | PinguinZ check the spec for the artwork plan. | 05:20 |
| troy_s | You can see the scheduling breakdown. | 05:20 |
| msikma | Well, the mailing list is (in my opinion) where it's at. But that's because all projects I've contributed to thus far used mailing lists, I'm not sure about the others. | 05:20 |
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| msikma | Hey PingunZ, got any cool stuff to show us? | 05:22 |
| msikma | Are you a student or a professional? | 05:22 |
| PingunZ | hmm | 05:22 |
| PingunZ | student | 05:22 |
| PingunZ | 14 years old | 05:22 |
| PingunZ | I got my desktop wich is pretty cool ( imo ) | 05:22 |
| PingunZ | my tweaked slab menu | 05:22 |
| troy_s | There are three primary routes to the artwork team. | 05:23 |
| msikma | Haha, cool. I think that makes you the youngest Ubuntu Artwork member. | 05:23 |
| PingunZ | my login screen .. | 05:23 |
| troy_s | A) Wiki B) Launchpad C) Mailing ist. | 05:23 |
| PingunZ | Ok, I'll sign up for B and C | 05:23 |
| PingunZ | I hate wikis | 05:23 |
| PingunZ | msikma, you want screenies ? | 05:24 |
| msikma | I love Mediawiki, but I hate the one we're using. It seems so unorganized compared to Mediawiki. | 05:24 |
| msikma | Sure! | 05:24 |
| PingunZ | gimme a sex | 05:24 |
| PingunZ | *c | 05:24 |
| msikma | (Mediawiki is the software Wikipedia uses) | 05:24 |
| PingunZ | darn typo | 05:24 |
| PingunZ | http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=37394 | 05:24 |
| PingunZ | no screenie of my login screen ( yet ) | 05:24 |
| PingunZ | dont say it sucks because its vista plz .. :p I like its look but prefer linux --> thats why I'm here ;) | 05:25 |
| msikma | Ah yeah, now that I remember it, you linked to those before. They look pretty neat. | 05:25 |
| PingunZ | ty | 05:25 |
| msikma | Heh, I haven't tried the Vista beta yet. I remember looking at earlier screenshots and not being very impressed, though. The general look of the windows is okay (despite the awful transparency and blur effects, which seems to be a because-we-can effect rather than something that's actually useful). But some of the things they did with Explorer just seemed awful to me. | 05:26 |
| PingunZ | If you want some info about any of them --> pm or ask me ;) | 05:26 |
| msikma | I might do that later. I'm doing some Photoshop things now. | 05:26 |
| PingunZ | I tried it, IT SUCKS, seriously I have a great computer --> 3/10 rated by vista | 05:27 |
| PingunZ | its so darn slow | 05:27 |
| PingunZ | brb | 05:28 |
| PingunZ | b | 05:29 |
| PingunZ | hmm | 05:30 |
| PingunZ | someone has a guide for a login window --> I made one but it loads to slow .. | 05:31 |
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| PingunZ | hi bersace | 05:31 |
| bersace | hello all | 05:31 |
| msikma | Hi | 05:31 |
| bersace | just to say that would be nice to add Date: field in UbuntuSounds | 05:31 |
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| cbx33 | ping troy_s | 06:54 |
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| cbx333 | sorry bout that | 06:58 |
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| PingunZ | hi msikma | 09:49 |
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| PovRayMan | howdy all | 09:54 |
| PingunZ | hi PovRayMan | 09:56 |
| PovRayMan | i made a wallpaper i would love to see put up on the official art or something heh | 09:56 |
| PingunZ | shom me | 09:58 |
| PingunZ | *show | 09:58 |
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| PovRayMan | http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=30083 | 09:58 |
| PovRayMan | i made it a while ago but i still have the povray source code to change stuff around | 09:58 |
| PingunZ | hmm | 10:00 |
| PingunZ | the background is just one color, the logo is to dark --> I dont really like the ' shadows ' in it | 10:01 |
| PovRayMan | what do you suggest i do | 10:02 |
| PingunZ | gimme a sec | 10:02 |
| PingunZ | taking a close look at it ;) | 10:02 |
| PovRayMan | i'm walking all around the house right now making dinner so i'll try to be around as much as possible so just list out stuff to change :) | 10:03 |
| PingunZ | ok ;) | 10:03 |
| troy_s | We have an official route in place for that sort of thing. | 10:03 |
| troy_s | Unfortunately, we have a small set of contributors so we are currently focused on the default art / design. | 10:04 |
| troy_s | There are specifications available at Launchpad.net. | 10:05 |
| PovRayMan | i was reading the wiki on my main computer but i had to shut it down in case the thunderstorm coming in tries to fry it | 10:05 |
| troy_s | Laf. | 10:07 |
| troy_s | Well good idea probably. | 10:07 |
| troy_s | Start at the wiki, read through the stuff, and feel free to jump on board. | 10:07 |
| troy_s | We are probably going to implement an official announcement policy for the mailing list quite soon, as the clutter that comes up is too much for the busier folks to maintain. | 10:08 |
| PingunZ | PovRayMan, I'l going to tell you in pm ;) | 10:08 |
| PovRayMan | ok :) | 10:09 |
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| PovRayMan | ok main computer back on and i'm joining the team | 10:44 |
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| fschoep | troy_s: ping? | 10:45 |
| msikma | Hey everyone | 10:45 |
| PovRayMan | hello mr. frank schoep | 10:46 |
| msikma | Also I h didn't know you were Dutch, Frank! | 10:46 |
| PovRayMan | i just joined the artwork team because i wanna help make ubuntu pretty :) | 10:46 |
| fschoep | Whoa, good afternoon everyone :) | 10:46 |
| fschoep | msikma: maybe the .nl domain was a giveaway ;) ? | 10:46 |
| PovRayMan | my host is a secret ;) | 10:46 |
| msikma | I never check hostmasks :) | 10:46 |
| msikma | I'm in Rotterdam | 10:47 |
| fschoep | PovRayMan: welcome on the team! | 10:47 |
| PovRayMan | prm@bb4win/styles/impulsivelazyelf | 10:47 |
| PovRayMan | thanks :) | 10:47 |
| msikma | So, you got any cool 3d renderings to show us, PovRayMan? | 10:47 |
| fschoep | It is kind of quiet on the list right now, basically waiting to get the direction for the next phase completed and approved. | 10:47 |
| PovRayMan | i was just showing off something i made a year ago in povray which i can modify to look good | 10:48 |
| PovRayMan | http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=30083 | 10:48 |
| msikma | Yeah man, give us a clue on what to do, fschoep! | 10:48 |
| PovRayMan | PingunZ was giving me suggestions on how to make it look good | 10:48 |
| PingunZ | PovRayMan, I didnt really do anything | 10:48 |
| PovRayMan | we're working on it, PingunZ :) | 10:48 |
| msikma | That is nice. Too bad I can't see it in full res in my browser. | 10:49 |
| PingunZ | hi fschoep ;) | 10:49 |
| msikma | Oh wait, I can | 10:49 |
| PingunZ | brb | 10:49 |
| fschoep | Hey PingunZ nice to see you online right now | 10:49 |
| PovRayMan | i rendered that at 4800x3600 and resized to 1600x1200 | 10:49 |
| PovRayMan | i still have the 51mb bmp original | 10:50 |
| fschoep | PovRayMan: maybe use PNG next time :) ? | 10:50 |
| fschoep | (just kidding) | 10:50 |
| PovRayMan | oh no no, povray for me outputs bmp by default | 10:50 |
| PovRayMan | i use png when its right | 10:50 |
| PovRayMan | i could set it to output png by default, but ehh i'm lazy like that :) | 10:51 |
| fschoep | :) | 10:51 |
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| cbx33 | ping fschoep | 10:51 |
| cbx33 | ping troy_s | 10:51 |
| PingunZ | fschoep, I singed up in the mailing list and on launchpad ;) | 10:52 |
| fschoep | Great | 10:52 |
| PovRayMan | Here is something new i've been conceptualizing | 10:52 |
| fschoep | cbx33: I'm here | 10:52 |
| PovRayMan | http://img.waffleimages.com/img/5d143f03830f15abb3b5ea488d6fa3dcbf336ab8/woodBoxes.jpg | 10:52 |
| PovRayMan | excuse the poor wood textures | 10:52 |
| PovRayMan | i'm building a jenga like stack tower | 10:52 |
| fschoep | I'm not used to the u-art being so active like this so please forgive me if my reactions are kind of slow :) | 10:52 |
| PovRayMan | haha ok, i have to admit i'm a bit of an irc nut, since 1996 or so | 10:53 |
| PingunZ | hehe fschoep, its cause of me I made #ubuntuforums active too -_- | 10:53 |
| fschoep | msikma: if you are interested, can you take a peek at this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/EdgyArtworkPlan/Propose/Results | 10:54 |
| msikma | That is all rather nice stuff. | 10:55 |
| fschoep | PingunZ: :) | 10:55 |
| fschoep | msikma: the idea being it defines the direction for "Produce" | 10:55 |
| PovRayMan | interesting, i'm reading that right now | 10:56 |
| msikma | I'm not entirely captured by all-out-gloss and matte and gloss so far, though. | 10:56 |
| fschoep | msikma: it's incomplete / not detailed enough or do you not like the ideas presented? | 10:56 |
| msikma | I think that the artwork seen in there mostly lacks contrast. | 10:57 |
| msikma | Oh, it's nothing that can't be fixed | 10:57 |
| msikma | Of course, this is all just propose material, not polished material | 10:57 |
| fschoep | indeed | 10:57 |
| fschoep | The idea was to fix some overarching compositional ideas, textures and colors. | 10:57 |
| msikma | As for the lacking of contrast, I understand that this is required to accentuate the nature of the artwork, but in that case I would keep a very clear separation between background and foreground elements, and sharply distinguish between them. | 10:58 |
| msikma | I haven't seen that in any mock-up, which is too bad, but that doesn't matter at this point. | 10:58 |
| fschoep | Lack of contrast - visually? Like emphasizing the shadow in Who's GDM example for instance? | 10:59 |
| msikma | No, in that sort of a situation, I would make the background much darker, since then the shadow (which is more a glow at this point) will help make the transition between background and foreground sharper. | 11:00 |
| fschoep | OK, that's clear - basically the current "palettes" provide some dark and some light shades. | 11:00 |
| fschoep | My idea is to share *source* material instead of PNGs so we can change anything if something doesn't work out too well. | 11:01 |
| PovRayMan | i can post my povray code :) | 11:01 |
| fschoep | PovRayMan: that's a good example, if you were contributing ideas it would be best to have the code so someone else can try some variations. | 11:03 |
| fschoep | I think I'm gonna grab some food, I'll be right back :) | 11:03 |
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| fschoep | PingunZ: have you got experience doing GTK? | 11:05 |
| PingunZ | no | 11:05 |
| PingunZ | but I'm young so I can learn ;) | 11:05 |
| fschoep | OK, the problem is basically we don't have any good resources on GTK2 theming and I know that both msikma and are interested in learning that as well :) | 11:05 |
| fschoep | and (I) | 11:06 |
| msikma | Yeah. I mean, I'm making mock-ups like mad but what good is it if I can't implement it? | 11:06 |
| PingunZ | well, lets make a sick Human gtk theme then | 11:06 |
| fschoep | I'm all for trying something, I've branched the code but haven't fiddled too much yet. | 11:06 |
| msikma | PingunZ: yeah! | 11:07 |
| msikma | If you have cool stuff to show regarding the Human GTK, I'd love to see it. I find it the coolest part of the artwork team's projects. | 11:07 |
| PingunZ | ok .. | 11:07 |
| fschoep | it is, yes | 11:07 |
| fschoep | msikma: got the wiki link handy? | 11:07 |
| msikma | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/PolishHumanGTKTheme/Incoming?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=michielgtk11.png <-- what I'm working on thus far. But I don't like the icons at the top-right anymore (I changed them around a little) | 11:07 |
| msikma | Yep: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/PolishHumanGTKTheme/Incoming | 11:08 |
| msikma | I am also still unsure about the scroll bars. | 11:08 |
| fschoep | msikma: OK, you beat me to it (the link) | 11:08 |
| msikma | It's okay, I live in Rotterdam, my IRC messages arrive at Freenode's server sooner. | 11:08 |
| PingunZ | is it hard to make a gtk theme ? | 11:09 |
| msikma | Well it sure is mighty confusing ;) | 11:09 |
| fschoep | yeah | 11:09 |
| fschoep | You can branch from Launchpad using Bazaar and then it gets confusing. | 11:09 |
| PingunZ | can I see some mockups for a gtk theme ? | 11:10 |
| fschoep | I got the code, but it's not quite easy to spot where something's coming from. | 11:10 |
| fschoep | PingunZ: see msikma's wiki links. | 11:10 |
| msikma | There are only two new ones there | 11:10 |
| msikma | I suggest you load up the original in your favorite editor and go nuts. | 11:10 |
| msikma | But mind your time, since you can easily forget about it once you're busy :) | 11:11 |
| PingunZ | hmm | 11:11 |
| fschoep | :) good advice | 11:11 |
| PingunZ | are there apps like gcompizthemer for that ? | 11:11 |
| msikma | By the way, I was working on a little wallpaper idea earlier today. | 11:12 |
| fschoep | I personally haven't found tools yet. | 11:12 |
| PingunZ | *soz for stupid questions * | 11:12 |
| msikma | I saw an amazing photo by a photographer named Ruud Baan who used exposure effects | 11:12 |
| fschoep | I'd be mad for a good tool for GTK2 theming. | 11:12 |
| msikma | So I tried to emulate it: http://www.gamingw.net/pubaccess/28695/light-test.png | 11:12 |
| msikma | It's a little preliminary, but certainly it has some potential. | 11:12 |
| fschoep | It's got wavy lines and it looks like a nice effect indeed. | 11:14 |
| fschoep | (off the get some more food) | 11:14 |
| msikma | Can you play Flash? His site is at http://www.ruudbaan.com/ | 11:14 |
| msikma | Choose "publ" and then "publ15" and then the second-bottom picture | 11:14 |
| fschoep | The first one has it, too - yellowish? | 11:15 |
| msikma | Yeah, but I like the second-bottom one the best, with the cyan ones. | 11:16 |
| fschoep | Indeed, the effect is more pronounced there. | 11:17 |
| msikma | Oh yeah | 11:39 |
| msikma | I was working on a new cursor theme at some point | 11:39 |
| === bersace hate flash because you can't just sent a link | ||
| fschoep | bersace: so true | 11:40 |
| msikma | There are ways around that if you are clever enough | 11:41 |
| msikma | But it seems most people are not | 11:41 |
| fschoep | I also get the impression Flash site are horribly indexed under Google and friends. | 11:43 |
| fschoep | sites* | 11:43 |
| msikma | They are | 11:48 |
| msikma | Google has friends? :) | 11:48 |
| fschoep | Well - I meant Yahoo and Altavista, but they're not real friends I imagine. | 11:50 |
| fschoep | Would any of you mind me going to bed? Urgent things to discuss? | 11:51 |
| msikma | I'm gonna go myself, too | 11:53 |
| fschoep | OK, sleep well and see you tomorrow then :) | 11:53 |
| msikma | I think they'll be fine... for now :P | 11:53 |
| msikma | Yeah, see you | 11:53 |
| PingunZ | 'night | 11:53 |
| fschoep | OK, bye! | 11:53 |
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